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State of the Union Thread

Why not….

Posted by Dave at 8:00 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (1,586)

1,586 Responses to “State of the Union Thread”

  1. Chicon says:

    Hugh the man!

  2. Tina says:

    CNBC
    ?
    @CNBC
    President Trump has reportedly been talking about possibly asking Attorney General Jeff Sessions to prosecute Robert Mueller, the special counsel overseeing the Russia probe.
    4:00 PM – Jan 30, 2018
    65 65 Replies 53 53 Retweets 50 50 likes

    Reposted here, very fake news

  3. Tina says:

    Kyle Morris
    @RealKyleMorris
    Trump is bringing war heroes, tax cut recipients, and the families of the children murdered by MS-13 gang members to the #SOTU

    Democrats are bringing illegal aliens.

    There’s really no debate here as to who supports the American people.
    5:04 PM – Jan 30, 2018

  4. Cash Cow TM says:

    “If Pelosi brings illegals to the SOTU,
    then DJT needs to bring ICE agents.”

    *I red this somewhere earlier today that someone tweeted.

  5. Cash Cow TM says:

    My county is an MS4 county.

    Is that bad?

    Are we on our way to becoming an MS13 county?

  6. Cash Cow TM says:

    SOTU in 20 minutes!
    I am SO excited!

    My stomach is churning!

    Actually, all 4 stomachs are churning.

  7. Tina says:

    There is stll time for Mueller toi indict trump and then hillary can give the SOTU.

    JEBOT

  8. Cash Cow TM says:

    I heard the D response to the SOTU speech will be combination of various Democrat congressmen.

    Sarah N. Dippity (D–RI)
    Phil Harmonick (D–45-degree listing Guam)
    Ben Dover (D–Peoples Republic of Caleefornica)
    R. U. Kidden (D–Chicago War Zone)
    Lynn Chemall (D–San Fornsickso)
    Liza Katera (D–Fillydelphia)
    Ann Hialate (D–Baltimore)
    Phyliss Stein (D–Isis)

  9. Cash Cow TM says:

    ARE YOU READY TO RUUUUMMMBBBLE!

  10. Cash Cow TM says:

    SOTU predictions…

    –DJT will use many hand gestures
    –Dems will not like anything about his speech
    –some Rs will say this is the best speech since Jesus gave the sermon on the mount
    –Justice Ruth (Better Not Die Soon) Ginsburg will be happy she does not have to be there to endure this
    –Trump punches someone on the way out of the room

  11. Cash Cow TM says:

    WTF?
    SOTU and everyone at HHR is AWOL?
    Better get hee ASAP…STAT!

  12. Cash Cow TM says:

    FIRST ‘VERY’

  13. Cash Cow TM says:

    FIRST ‘GREAT’

  14. Bitterlaw says:

    Bold prediction – Dems, Corey, and Robbie will hate the speech. Republicans and Trumpers will love the speech.

    I will continue to hate the President on a personal level but will probably like most of the speech.

  15. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie to demand the end of the Coast Guard in 3…2…1….

  16. Cash Cow TM says:

    “GREAT’ again…

  17. NYCmike says:

    Just got in, turned it on……ughhhh….turned it off! Can’t take the “feelings”-driven b*llsh*t going on….I’ll rely on Bitterlaw for what was said.

    Prediction: We will spend too much money, make too many promises, and then break them, and people who have connections to BIG GOVERNMENT will enrich themselves at others expense.

    Also, “CG” will NOT come down from the moral high ground.

  18. Cash Cow TM says:

    used ‘GREAT’ again…

  19. Cash Cow TM says:

    It is appropriate that many Ds are dressed in black.

    Their facial expressions look like they are at a funeral.

  20. Cash Cow TM says:

    ALL THESE NUMBERS ARE MAKING MY HEAD SPIN…

  21. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    I can just envision Robbie,PO and Paul now in the fetal position with each of them sucking on their thumbs!
    MD and Arthur have been handcuffed to their beds by their spouses foaming at the mouth and screaming RACIST over and over again!

  22. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Handing out raises…?

    Pfft.

    Peanuts I tell you, peanuts…

  23. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey to condemn welders in 3…2…1…

  24. Cash Cow TM says:

    …’GREAT’…

  25. Tgca says:

    Greatest SOTU EVER!!!

  26. Cash Cow TM says:

    btw, if you had “blue necktie” you won.

    I think Las Vegas had the short odds on red tie.

  27. Cash Cow TM says:

    …”great”…

  28. Bitterlaw says:

    Blue neck tie? I knew he would go back to his Democrat roots.

  29. Cash Cow TM says:

    COAL!!!

    YEAH BABY!

  30. Cash Cow TM says:

    COAL!!!

    YEAH BABY!

  31. Ron N says:

    Over 1000 VA dirty bags gone?

  32. Cash Cow TM says:

    What will DJT have to say to get Pelosi to stand and applaud?

    (Other than “I hereby tender my resignation”)

  33. Cash Cow TM says:

    “…VERY, VERY unfair…”

  34. NYCmike says:

    Ok, I tried to watch again, but I can’t handle Trump clapping like a seal right into the microphone!

    LOUDEST CLAP EVA!

  35. Cash Cow TM says:

    “…VERY…”

  36. Cash Cow TM says:

    “…BAD…”

  37. Cash Cow TM says:

    Why does Trump look so angry?
    Does he have something stuck up his butt?

  38. Tom says:

    38. Yeah, Chuck Schumer & Nancy Pelosi.

  39. Cash Cow TM says:

    “…GREAT…”

  40. Tom says:

    Bernie Sanders has indigestion.

  41. Hugh says:

    Trump is crushing it.

  42. Tgca says:

    Greatest President EVAH!!!

  43. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – Democrats are reacting to the SOTUS in the exact same way that Republicans reacted to Obama’s SOTUS.

  44. biomom says:

    Americans are dreamers too. Great line.

  45. Hugh says:

    Bitter. I disagree. It’s way worse and this guy while anhugenasss is much better for the working man

  46. jason says:

    I like the speech.

    I don’t like most of the trade and immigration rhetoric but in general its good.

  47. NYCmike says:

    “fair and reciprocal”

    -YES, this is a YUGE problem!

  48. NYCmike says:

    Did he speak about the infrastructure boondoggle?

  49. jason says:

    Russia is a threat?

    I thought Trump was a Russian agent.

    He must be a double agent.

  50. jason says:

    Yep, 1.5 trillion.

    Pony up.

  51. NYCmike says:

    Llama down.

  52. Bitterlaw says:

    Hugh – I call it as I see it. Dems are acting no worse than Republicans in Obama’s first SOTUS.

  53. Tgca says:

    53

    Lies!
    LIES!
    …and more Lies!

  54. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC must love that $1.5 trillion. It is soooooooo conservative.

  55. Hugh says:

    Disagree. But I respect your view. Lowest black employment ever. Entire dem side sits

  56. NYCmike says:

    Yes, I love boondoggles in the morning…at 5AM….as I am driving to work….

  57. Bitterlaw says:

    Getting a little loooooooong.

  58. NYCmike says:

    Getting ready for a foam party…?

    Oops, wrong primary candidate.

  59. Bitterlaw says:

    Hugh – Did you watch all of Obama’s speeches? I did.

  60. Tgca says:

    Look at the size of those hands.

    UUUUUGE!!!

  61. Bitterlaw says:

    Is this the real NYC?

  62. Tgca says:

    NYC

    Too cold for a foam party. It’s 58 degrees in Miami metro right now. Brghhhh!!!

  63. Hugh says:

    I can honestly say no. After a couple years I could no longer endure it.

  64. Paul says:

    I’m impressed. Best speech I’ve ever heard.

  65. NYCmike says:

    As if there could ever be a FAKE me!

  66. Paul says:

    I think Trump has just won reelection tonight!

  67. Gpo says:

    Bitterlaw
    January 30, 2018 at 10:14 pm
    Hugh – I call it as I see it. Dems are acting no worse than Republicans in Obama’s first SOTUS.

    I didn’t see , but read the dems booed when parents of murdered children were mentioned. If true that is a lot worse

  68. BayernFan says:

    wrap it up…these things should be be no more than 40 minutes or so.

  69. Paul says:

    GOP will now keep the house. And pick up enough seats to reach 60 in the Senate!!

  70. NYCmike says:

    Agreed. Next time, Twitter it.

  71. Paul says:

    The soothing voice of Trump now has me fully erect.

  72. Tgca says:

    No!!! This should go on 24/7.

    Greatest leader EVAH in the world.

  73. NYCmike says:

    Wrap it up….PLEASE!

  74. Chicon says:

    I’m worried about Robbie. Did the basement flood?

  75. Tgca says:

    72

    Agreed! This is better than porn!!!

  76. Chicon says:

    76 – No way!

  77. NYCmike says:

    YES!

  78. Tgca says:

    NO!!!

    Don’t stop.

    More! More!

    Please sir! I want some more.

  79. NYCmike says:

    Manchin made sure to get in there.

  80. Paul says:

    I may be just really drunk… but I think he may have done a hell of a job tonight.

  81. Paul says:

    Robbie!!!! Where are you!!!

  82. Paul says:

    He’s getting close to “soaring rhetoric” now. Did he get a new speech writer?

  83. Paul says:

    Many of the Dems are standing for that one.

  84. Tina says:

    So, four drat rebuttals?

    Is this kennedy drunk?

  85. Tgca says:

    Andrea Mitchell complaining about facts that need fact checking. She’s complaining that he misled on tax cuts expiring that he did not acknowledge.

    Ok. I’ll worry about that in 10 years when they expire. Geez!!!

  86. Mr.Vito says:

    Run the SOTU as long as you like…

    Then no one wants to stick around for the rebuttals.

  87. Paul says:

    “Pushing the bounds of science and discovery…” that doesn’t sound like a stephen miller words. I think he’s got some better writers on this one.

  88. DW says:

    good speech

  89. Chicon says:

    88 – BHO wrote it for him.

  90. MichiganGuy says:

    BayernFan says:
    January 30, 2018 at 10:25 pm
    wrap it up…these things should be be no more than 40 minutes or so.
    —————————————————————————————————————-
    I disagree. We all know as soon as the President finishes is speech the democrats and the media are going to attack him. So, the later he talks the more people will go to sleep after hearing him and not stay up and listen to the idiots on cnn and the rest of the msm.

  91. Tgca says:

    Vito

    That’s what I was thinking. He ran into their time purposely. Now everyone’s on a bafroom break, getting snacks, switching channels, brushing teeth before bed, etc.

    Ooooh! Dems are gonna be soooooo mad. This needs to be investigated as whether he colluded with others on this.

  92. Paul says:

    90: He should hire BHO full time and he might get reelected.

  93. Tina says:

    Tax cuts expiring? They have not even gone fully into effect.

    Mitchell is drunk too.

  94. Cash Cow TM says:

    Houw did Trump do?

    I fell asleep….

  95. Paul says:

    I sense that he has colluded with the English language tonight in a way that he hasn’t previously.

  96. Tina says:

    He colluded with the russians i to stealing the drats time.

    Paging Mulehead.

  97. Cash Cow TM says:

    Where is Maxine Waters?

  98. MichiganGuy says:

    President Trump hit a home run! Outstanding job. Well done Mr. President.

  99. BayernFan says:

    he sure looks like a Kennedy

  100. Cash Cow TM says:

    Kennedy

    WTF?

  101. Tina says:

    Or maybe he thought about stealing the time.

    Thinking about doing something is now the same as actually doing something, criminally speaking.

  102. BayernFan says:

    91….good point

  103. Chicon says:

    98 – she’s the designated survivor.

  104. Cash Cow TM says:

    “fractured faultlines across our fricking country”

  105. Cash Cow TM says:

    TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE GONNA PUT YOU ALL BACK IN CHAINS!

  106. CG says:

    At least Kennedy is not standing in front of an Oldsmobile.

  107. Tina says:

    She is the second rebuttal speech.

    They have red kennedy.

    Dirty waters.

    Cccp sanders

    And, last, but not least, La Raza.

  108. Cash Cow TM says:

    Why isn’t Kennedy wewaring a p*ssy hat?
    Guess Maxine will have one on….

  109. Tina says:

    The drats booed that poor, aa family whose kids were killed by the ms 13.

    Pos

  110. Tgca says:

    I wonder if this qualifies for the spoken words category at the Grammy awards. Hmmm… Wouldn’t that be awesome if he won?

  111. Cash Cow TM says:

    Is he in a garage?

  112. Tina says:

    They should have had drunken and medicated hillary give the rebuttal.

  113. Bitterlaw says:

    Joe Kennedy, III is not responding to the speech at all. He talks about Russia, Trump’s racism, war on the environment, and anti-gay marriage policies.

  114. CG says:

    My goodness, he is not a great speaker. He takes after his Uncle Chris.

  115. Tina says:

    Maybe, the first thing hillary should learn is not to mix prescription or other drugs and alcohol.

  116. Cash Cow TM says:

    Did someone steal Kennedy’s suit coat?

  117. CG says:

    Maybe he is standing in front of a Bengals banner so people think he is Andy Dalton

  118. Tina says:

    Muh russian,

    Did red kennedy mention the cape cod orca asking the russians to help in defearing reagan?

  119. Mr.Vito says:

    My sound stopped working… should I be grateful?

  120. jason says:

    I give Trump a 10.

    I would have given him an 8, but a 10 will irritate ProudObamacommunist and Wobbie/

  121. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – I did not hear that.

  122. Cash Cow TM says:

    I love how the super rich congressman lambasts ‘those rich people…’ who don’t care about the little guy.

  123. Tina says:

    Can maxine replace red kennedy?

  124. Tina says:

    Bl,

    It is reportd here.

    I have no cable, so I will catch the speeches later.

  125. Mr.Vito says:

    Is that one of the cash for clunkers cars behind him?

  126. jason says:

    I am not watching the rebuttal.

    I did a lot watching the SOTU speech.

    Sue me.

    Is Kennedy going to be President?

  127. Cash Cow TM says:

    Donde is la bibleoteque?

  128. Tina says:

    Has red kennedy commented on ted kennedy and the russians?

  129. DW says:

    Dem response: “we strongly oppose all those jobs coming back and all the money going back into your pockets”

  130. Tgca says:

    Kennedy:

    We will fight for you and we will not walk away…like my uncle Teddy did when he left MJ to drown.

  131. Bitterlaw says:

    He wants to tear down the wall. Black lives matter. Also said something in Spanish.

  132. Cash Cow TM says:

    build the border wall, and we will tear it down…

    advocating the destruction of government property…

  133. Tina says:

    Leave all drowning women behind.

    Red kennedy uh ted kennedy

  134. Paul says:

    Mr. Kennedy is glistening.

  135. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Trump is a bully…” (paraphrasing)

  136. DW says:

    128 – despicable. Those dead girls mean nothing to dem leaders…just keep future voters pouring over the borders.

  137. Bitterlaw says:

    They should put the hood of the car down. It’s distracting.

  138. Tina says:

    Red kennedy my uncle teddy never coluded with the russians.

  139. Tina says:

    Ms 13is a problem. Get thst harbage out of here.

  140. Cash Cow TM says:

    F the commercials…

    bring on

    MAXINE, MAXINE, MAXINE…!

  141. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/joshdcaplan/status/958529718273404928/video/1

    Black caucus upset about lowest unemployment ever for aas.

  142. Mr.Vito says:

    They didn’t boo the parents. They shut up just before they were introduced when they realized they were being set up.

  143. Tgca says:

    Kennedy’s fake passion. Looks like he took an acting class pretending to be on verge of hurtful tears. Also seemed to have hired Al Gore’s visual expert.

  144. Cash Cow TM says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    January 30, 2018 at 10:55 pm
    They should put the hood of the car down. It’s distracting.
    ********************
    It is a symbol of the D party that has run out of gas…car no va (Spanish talk for no go)

  145. jason says:

    So, what I did like about the speech.

    Economy
    Taxes
    Energy
    Defense
    Conservative judges
    Deregulation
    N. Korea
    Flag
    Obamacare
    Human interest stories

    What I was ambivalent about
    Paid family leave
    Infrastructure

    What I didn’t like
    Trade isolationism BS
    80% of the immigration rhetoric

  146. Cash Cow TM says:

    But the car was freshly pinted black, to fit the attire of the D congresscritters.

  147. jason says:

    They didn’t boo the parents. They shut up just before they were introduced when they realized they were being set up.”

    Right, they started to boo and then oooops…

  148. CG says:

    Are we sure it wasn’t a 1967 Oldsmobile Sedan?

  149. Bitterlaw says:

    I listened 3 times, Tina. Didn’t hear what you claim but if that is what you heard, you heard it.

  150. Cash Cow TM says:

    I thought the SOTU speech was so-so.

    Trump said nothing about hay or milk.

  151. Bitterlaw says:

    I will listen again in the morning.

  152. Tina says:

    Bl, it was reported by gp. I will watch the speech later, however.

  153. Tina says:

    Red Kennedy must have tsken acting classes from schumah.

  154. DW says:

    153 – he threw a few cow pies at the Dems–does that count?

  155. CG says:

    In no way shape or form were the parents booed.

    The booing (fairly weak booing) was for the inference that all or a lot of young Hispanic immigrants have become or will become members of MS-13.

  156. Cash Cow TM says:

    No, cow pie tosses do not count…

  157. Tgca says:

    146. Not true Vito!

    I saw Pelosi give them the finger.

    I was shocked! SHOCKED!

  158. Tina says:

    Tough night for the amnesty crowd,

    Booing of parents and gutierrez walks out.

  159. Cash Cow TM says:

    MY CHANNELS ARE NOT CARRYING MAXINE!

    sniff…

  160. Tina says:

    I saw piglosi turn around and looks like she was upset with her peeps.

  161. DW says:

    159 – if Gutierrez hates the USA that much, then move to Cuba and run for office there.

  162. Tina says:

    Amnesty Gutierrez walked out because he did not like the usa chants?

    Wtf.

  163. BayernFan says:

    Will a big part of the story be the churlish childish ridiculous reaction of the Democrats?

  164. NYCmike says:

    “80% of the immigration rhetoric”

    -That voters want to be made into law….

  165. NYCmike says:

    “The booing (fairly weak booing) was for the inference ”

    -Of course this is correct….”CG” knows all.

  166. CG says:

    Looks like Guiterrez walked out one minute before the speech was over so he could be the first in front of a television camera.

    Hardly surprising for many politicians.

  167. Cash Cow TM says:

    Did Trump punch anyone of the way out?

    Grab anyone by the…?

  168. CG says:

    I guess Los Angeles sports fans have been protesting their teams all this time.

  169. Tina says:

    Gutierrez had the squirts, so he had to leave,

  170. Tgca says:

    So Gutierrez walks out because POTUS acknowledges the great hall of America congress. Perhaps if he acknowledged the great halls of the UN building instead…

  171. CG says:

    He might have grabbed Ted Cruz that way

  172. Tina says:

    Only if mueller had indicted trump for thinking about something, could hillary have given the best sppech ever.

    Jebot

  173. CG says:

    Do people seriously not see the “clip” and realize that Gutierrez was making a beeline to beat everyone else to the media? It was right at the end of the speech.

  174. Tina says:

    Gutierez thre down his hand as the usa chant started. Upset with the usa chant.

  175. Tgca says:

    I just read Gutierrez has been suffering g a stomach flu and due to the length of the speech could not hold it any longer so he made a rush for the restroom. …so give the guy a break.

  176. NYCmike says:

    “Do people seriously not see the “clip” and realize that Gutierrez was making a beeline to beat everyone else to the media? It was right at the end of the speech.”

    -“Yes, Ma, this is the same cartoon character who trusts Schumer and Durbin when they talk about a “tough” immigration bill!

  177. Tgca says:

    181
    Don’t be so mean Tina!

    He was emotional and crying from the mouth instead of his eyes.

  178. Tina says:

    Amnesty Gutierrez called cos kelly a disgrace in uniform.

    I am sure amnesty did not say it to kellys face.

  179. NYCmike says:

    Gutierrez totally ran out because of the “U.S.A” chant – it will be a meme in 15 minutes – Vladimir, get on that!

  180. BayernFan says:

    don’t give la raza the benefit of any doubt

  181. Tina says:

    The kennedys get grosser and grosser.

  182. Tina says:

    Gutierrez is a pos. Kelly is a gold star dad. His kid died seeving our country,

    Amnesty whire.

  183. Tgca says:

    Who was the Congress critter dude that gave a comforting tap to Gutierrez as he runs to the restroom?

  184. Tina says:

    Has real cons, the whale nabarro, jennifer mini me la raza rubin, or the socialisr son opined yet?

    What anout mika joe scarfarce?

  185. Tina says:

    Yeah, the tap is telling. Telling that it was intentional. He was upset with the usa chant,

  186. Tina says:

    Trump could have topped everythung by annoncing comedys arrest.

  187. jason says:

    I am skeptical Gutierrez left to talk to the press, it looks like its because of the chant.

    What a scumbag.

  188. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    Can you please lament on HHR, about how a Kennedy getting a speaking gig is so unfair to another American family?

  189. NYCmike says:

    “Republicans make Bushes actually get elected President before they get the speech gig.”

  190. CG says:

    In any event, Guiterrez’s response was the first one received by the media and the first one reported.

    Others, in both parties, probably left earlier to go to bathrooms.

  191. Tgca says:

    USA!
    USA!
    USA!

    Gutierrez runs out to restroom.

  192. NYCmike says:

    “I am skeptical ”

    -“Don’t be….”CG” has spoken!

  193. Tina says:

    Not goof

    Booing of parents

    Gutierrez hates the usa chant

    Red Kennedy slobbers himself,

    Too much low t.

  194. Tgca says:

    UN!
    UN!
    UN!

    Gutierrez stands on Pelosi shoulders and claps vigorously.

  195. Tina says:

    Gutierrez had bad nachos at trump hotel in dc.

    Hence, the need to run to the bathroom

  196. jason says:

    I want to be fair, but I don’t buy CG’s version here.

  197. CG says:

    I have scoffed at the idea that the Democrats dragged out young ginger Kennedy for this. The only reason seems to be that he looks 50 years younger than Steve Beshear from last year.

    Republicans make Bushes actually get elected President before they get the speech gig.

    And while I didn’t catch it on tv, I see the Kennedy drool on clips online. Ironic, since if not for Nixon sweating a bit during the first 1960 debate, we never would have heard of any of these Kennedy offspring.

  198. Tina says:

    Did leakage from piglosi end up on red kennedy?

  199. CG says:

    Guiterrez is the Chuck Schumer of Chicago. He’s always racing to get to the first tv camera. It’s been part of his reputation for years.

    If as it appears, he walked out during the last couple paragraphs of the speech, it seems like that was his intention, to get to the cameras.

  200. Tina says:

    That was not bodily fluid on red kennedy.

    It was vodka.

    My sources say so.

  201. BayernFan says:

    I had the sound off so I didn’t hear him…but I thought RFK’s grandson is a good looking guy. Very Kennedyesque looking.

  202. NYCmike says:

    Did they show the SOTU in Pogo Loco?

  203. Tina says:

    It was not his intention to theow his hand down and get patted by his colleague.

  204. Tina says:

    I woukd take jfk over red kennedy.

  205. Tina says:

    Luis Gutierrez called cos kelly a disgrace in uniform.

    Gutierrez deserves no benefit of the doubt.

  206. Tgca says:

    207

    So who’s he gonna rape or drown?

  207. CG says:

    Gutierrez is going to run for the Dem Presidential nomination by the way.

    Remember where you heard it first.

  208. Tina says:

    Pogo Loco reports a bad night for the drats. Several weeks in a row,

    Ever since the tax cuts uh crumbs.

  209. BayernFan says:

    Is he an American citizen?

  210. Tina says:

    Good. Let him be the nominee,

    I love it.

  211. Waingro says:

    “Our instant @cbsnews @yougov poll finds strong approval among viewers of SOTU”

  212. CG says:

    Trump deserves no benefit of the doubt for saying that John McCain and other POWs are not war heroes.

    At least Gutierrez (aka “El Gallito”) apologized for what he said.

  213. Cash Cow TM says:

    Go to DRUDGE and look at the pic of Trump with a goofy grin.

    Now look at the tie Trump is wearing in the DRUDGE pic and also the color of tie that Pence is wearing behind DJT.

    Notice anything peculiar about the color of the two ties in the photo, as comapred to the color of the ties worn during the SOTU tonight?

  214. Tina says:

    We will in over 320 evs if a ensty gutierrez is the nominee,

    The jebots will need depends.

  215. CG says:

    He was born in Chicago. Of course he is an American citizen, which he would also be if he was born in Puerto Rico.

  216. Tina says:

    Grand slam if he got 75 percent,

  217. Tina says:

    I wil!have to wat h and laugh at the jebot losahs.

  218. Wobbles says:

    Did they show the SOTU in Pogo Loco?”

    No, but the ship’s radio room intercepted North Korea’s state run broadcast.

    They didn’t like it.

    Since its the only opinion I have heard, I will go with it.

    Horrible speech.

  219. CG says:

    I’m one of the only 183 Trump haters in the country who actually bothered to watch the speech. Of course it is going to get “high marks.”

  220. Tina says:

    That 75 percent number may be one of the higherst positive scores in sotu?

  221. Tina says:

    Gutierrez, maxine waters is the 2020 drat ticket.

    Let the illegals still vote is the motto.

  222. Cash Cow TM says:

    My fellow herefords, ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.

  223. CG says:

    Obama’s numbers were in the high 70s and low 80s in the snap polls for his SOTU among viewers (just looked it up)because you people were boycotting it at the time.

  224. jason says:

    Gutierrez is scum, before and after the SOTU.

    Nothing changed.

  225. Tina says:

    It is clear that trump has gotten into a grove since the tax cuts passed, mulehead has blanked on obstruction, and the fbi scandal has been exposed.

  226. CG says:

    Trump is scum, before and after the SOTU.

    Nothing changed.

    I made my own version.

  227. Tgca says:

    According to Anthony Salvanto on TV now being interviewed, most of viewers were Republicans so that accounts for high acceptance rating of the spot poll. Makes sense as I can’t imagine Dems or Robbie stomaching to watch Trump for 81 minutes.

  228. Tina says:

    I want to know f om andy mccabe what the insurance policy is in reference to?

    How often did the secret society meet?

    Where were the meetings?

    Who attended?

  229. Tina says:

    Dems or rottie.

    Redundant.

  230. jason says:

    Obama’s numbers were in the high 70s and low 80s in the snap polls for his SOTU among viewers (just looked it up)because you people were boycotting it at the time.”

    Wow, pretty impressive if Trump can match that, given that the press was 95% pro-Obama and is 95% anti-Trump.

  231. Tina says:

    Jebot is unhinged, loves gutierrez.

    Much like said jebot always defended her thighness

  232. Tgca says:

    233

    But Trump is POTUS!

  233. CG says:

    GWB’s 2002 SOTU “snap poll” was 94 percent approved.

  234. jason says:

    CG is living the 2016 primaries, before and after SOTU.

    Nothing changed.

  235. CG says:

    Yes, this completely sensible idea that I am some sort of Luis Guiterrez fan…

  236. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Trump promises rep, duncan that he will release the 4 page memo.

    Yes, do so, but redwct nothing,

    Include all back up documents when the drats complain.

  237. Cash Cow TM says:

    Luis Gutierrez

    I tug ruler size

  238. Tina says:

    You are and were a hillary fan.

  239. CG says:

    My values and principles, do not change, correct.

    You are free to let Donald Trump keep your testicles in his gold plated lockbox for as long as you like.

  240. Tina says:

    Only if schiff for brains had realized that the 4 page memo originated from the ig.

    He is really dumb.

  241. jason says:

    Fortunately, Hillary is still not President, before and after SOTU.

    Nothing changed.

  242. jason says:

    My values and principles, do not change, correct.”

    Zzzzzzz…..

    Translation: I was wrong and I can’t get over it.

    Value and principles my ass.

  243. CG says:

    Hillary will never be President and Trump will always be scum.

    Luckily, (I hope) one day America will have a non-scum President again.

  244. Tina says:

    Hillary is sell8ng books at costco and appeaeing in an inebriated atate duringnthe grammys.

  245. Tina says:

    Obama is scum for weaponizing the fbi, don.

  246. Tgca says:

    248

    Copy cat. See 239 please.

  247. jason says:

    Anybody who thinks Hillary is better than Trump certainly doesn’t have much in the way of values or principles.

  248. Tina says:

    I will always support hillaryband defend gutierez.

    Jebot

  249. CG says:

    She is a better human being than Trump, though that is not saying much. She has some major issues herself.

    You forget of course that you insisted throughout 2016 that she was “better” than Trump on foreign policy.

  250. Tgca says:

    My gut is this re-energizes GOP for now. May even win Robbie over. Talk is that Mueller is calling investigation off because he loved the speech.

  251. NYCmike says:

    “My values and principles, do not change, correct.”

    -You were just writing earlier how JEB!2016 would have done most, and most likely more, of the same conservative policy positions pushed and/or signed into law by Trump in the past year….your opposition has nothing to do with principles and values….it has to do with Trump’s demeanor.

    The same “principle” which allows you to treat Obama so well, because his outward act is deemed “Presidential” by your principles.

    Shallow, and emotionally-based. SAD.

    JEB2018 and Romney2018 will support Trump in 2020.

    “Remember where you heard it first.”

  252. BayernFan says:

    CNN snap poll…… 70% positive 29% negative

  253. Tina says:

    okes
    ?
    @MikeTokes
    BREAKING: Judge unseals search warrant records, 2nd person of interest in the Las Vegas shooting has been identified as DOUGLAS HAIG.

    Wtf, a second shooter? I was told that one fat dude got off all of those rounds. Who would have thunk it.

  254. CG says:

    I “treated” Obama so well I voted against him three times.

  255. Tgca says:

    256
    Better human being?

    “What does it matter that Americans die” in Benghazi.
    “Destroy these bimbos who entrap Bill and falsely accuse him of sexually predatory behavior?
    “Laughs at getting rapist off the hook?

  256. Tina says:

    What is the mslsd poll saying?

    Lets cue to mika joe scarfarce? He has his sources somewhere.

  257. NYCmike says:

    “She is a better human being than Trump,”

    -LOL!

  258. MichiganGuy says:

    Two issues that I think will help Republicans win over independents and some democrats in 2018 that President Trump spoke on is:

    1. Terminal patients should be able to try life-saving treatments

    2.Lowering cost for prescription drugs.

  259. Tina says:

    Thank you jebot for telling me that I am a bettwr human being. I know you meant that I would make a better President.

    Her thighness

  260. CG says:

    Even if all those things were completely accurate (which they aren’t especially the last one, which is completely false.. see Snopes), yes, still a better person than Trump.

  261. CG says:

    Trump is probably a better human than Kim Jong Un, so do not let it be said that I cannot be fair.

  262. Tina says:

    Yeah, the beotch is a better human being.

    Has she apologized for attacking the so called bimbos?

    Benghazi and the you tube video?

    The dossier?

  263. CG says:

    See you HHR people around and NYC, I’ll see you at your new hangout.

  264. Tina says:

    The beoch got an sp appointed due to claims falsely made in the bogus dossier. She paid formthe phuqin dossier.

  265. Tina says:

    THank you formthe donation, jebot cg.

    Hillary

  266. Tina says:

    The jebot ran off

  267. Tgca says:

    OMG! Pelosi has stroke at SOTU and Drudge has audacity to show it. Sad! Pathetic! Cruel of Drudge!

    Jesus says love your enemy.

    http://www.drudgereport.com/

  268. NYCmike says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/01/30/donald-trump-we-not-i-sotu/

    -Just terrible!

    Hillary would have been so much more benevolent, and JEB!2016 as well.

    And Obama always shared credit!

  269. jason says:

    You forget of course that you insisted throughout 2016 that she was “better” than Trump on foreign policy.”

    And on trade. So what? I never said she would be a better President.

  270. NYCmike says:

    Cheers!

  271. Tgca says:

    267

    Listen to the tape of her laughing and joking about that case. I’m sure the rape victim found her reminiscence funny too.

    Snopes confirms she chuckles about the case. No one is saying she was gleeful because he raped her and got off but that she laughed reminiscing about this is what is not decent, and no real defender of women’s rights laughs about such a thing where you had personal involvement and encountered the people involved.

    This is not like telling dead Elvis jokes to your friends. This is like telling dead Elvis jokes to Lisa Presley. That’s the difference.

  272. lisab says:

    Luis Gutierrez IS DOA IN 2020, the commercial writes itself …

    USA USA USA

    (gutierrez runs out)

    entire midwest and south goes red

  273. lisab says:

    biden could beat trump, but i am not sure he gets the nomination

  274. GF says:

    CG says:

    January 30, 2018 at 11:54 pm

    Trump is probably a better human than Kim Jong Un, so do not let it be said that I cannot be fair.
    *************************************************

    To be honest, if you were being fair, you would not have used the word “probably” (and thus being passive-aggressive in tone) when juxtaposing POTUS with a known murderer and cruel tyrant. But that’s none of my business.

    As for the slams on McCain and other PoWs, I never liked that, but as a combat veteran, I have decided to let that go and move on. My PoW pals and Gold Star friends all feel the same.

    But it’s not like we have more to care about WRT to that particular critique than do regular civilians, so I’ll just shut my mouth going forward.

  275. MichiganGuy says:

    In his speech tonight, did Donald Trump make you feel more optimistic or more pessimistic about the direction the country is headed in over the next few years?

    More optimistic 63%
    More pessimistic 35%

    Do you think the policies being proposed by Donald Trump will move the country in the right direction or the wrong direction?

    Right direction 62%
    Wrong direction 35%

    What was your overall reaction to President Trump’s speech tonight?

    Positive 66%
    Negative 29%

    CNN/ssrs_solutions poll, Among #SOTU watchers

    https://t.co/obcdWvK7Jo

  276. MichiganGuy says:

    cnn spin “CNN Instant poll: Trump gets least positive reaction in at least 20 years”
    ————————————————————————————–Well, what do you expect when 90% of msm coverage of Trump is negative.

  277. MichiganGuy says:

    Do you favor or oppose the ideas you heard for handling national security?

    Favor 75%
    Oppose 25%

    Do you favor or oppose what you heard about roads, bridges and infrastructure?

    Favor 91%
    Oppose 9%

    Did you feel the speech was trying to unite the country, or divide the country?

    Unite 81%
    Divide 19%

    Overall, do you favor or oppose the proposals you heard tonight on immigration?

    Favor 72%
    Oppose 28%

    Do you think the policies you heard tonight will:

    Help you personally 54%
    Hurt you personally 14%
    Not affect you personally 32%

    How much credit do you feel Donald Trump should get for the current state of the economy?

    A lot 54%
    Some 18%
    A little 13%
    Not much or none 15%

    In general, did you approve or disapprove of the President’s speech tonight?

    Approve 75%
    Disapprove 25%

    CBSNews/YouGovUS poll, Among #SOTU watchers

    https://t.co/Uf6LYqvRLK

  278. Tina says:

    Erick Erickson
    Erick Erickson
    @EWErickson
    Having a Kennedy give a speech in front of a car could only be one upped by having a Kennedy give a speech in front of a car on a bridge.
    7:56 PM · Jan 30, 2018

    Optics….

  279. hugh says:

    Good speech. If he would eliminate the 20% of his tweets that undermine him and his allies, we could be in good shape for 18.

  280. mnw says:

    When I left here, there were no posts, & now 7 hours later there are almost 300, so it must have held everybody’s interest apparently.

    I have never watched a single SOTU in 70+ yrs, & my record is unbroken.

    I read where muh porn star isn’t working out for Jimmy K.

  281. mnw says:

    Tina 259

    Douglas Haig?

    Surprised the old gentlemen can still shoot that well! Must be all that military training.

  282. mnw says:

    “Americans are Dreamers too”

    Liked that A LOT.

  283. jason says:

    That was a good line.

  284. dblaikie says:

    Call me stupid, but I always try to watch the SOTU speech no matter who is President. And yes in every speech there are those times when the opposing party stands against a certain issue they don’t stand. But last night was something special. First of all Nancy Pelosi looked she needed an exorcism from start to finish. If she is the face of the Congressional Dems. the GOP will pick up lots of seats next fall. Second, if you watched the speech the Dems come looking like they feel sorry for the thugs in MS13 and they didn’t feel sorry for those two African American couples who lost their loved ones to those murderers. Oh well, I could go on and list lots more just plain stupid places where the Dems really hurt themselves. TALK ABOUT A SELF-INFLICTED WOUND!

  285. jason says:

    biden could beat trump, but i am not sure he gets the nomination”

    Biden always gets good poll ratings, but he looks better on paper than in person.

    He is an accident looking for a place to happen on the stump and has a lot of baggage.

    Plus he would be 78 in 2020.

  286. jason says:

    It’s the first SOTU I have watched since one that GWB gave before the Iraq war. I doubt I will watch next year.

  287. jason says:

    The truth is the Dems don’t have much of a bench for 2020.

    The old guard like Biden and Warren and Sanders are basically old liberals with nothing offer and Kamala Harris is not ready for prime time, although I said that about Obama too. She can easily be defined as an out of touch CA extreme liberal moonbat and she will not sell well in the midwest.

    If the Dems nominated a midwest “moderate” they would have a better chance but it will never happen, the moonbats dominate their primary process.

  288. Bitterlaw says:

    Arguing over whether Trump or Hillary is a better person is absurd. They are both scum.

    However, I am relieved every day that Hillary is not President.

  289. Tgca says:

    Greatest SOTU. EVAH!!!

    Greatest POTUS. EVAH!

    Disband the constitution.
    King Trump!
    Queen Melania!
    Princess Ivanka!
    Prince Barron!

  290. Tgca says:

    Scum? People say that about lawyers. I disagree…sometimes.

  291. Tgca says:

    300! Yay?

  292. DW says:

    273 – that’s her normal face.

    [Trump] Says ‘We’ 129 Times…

    …beats Obama who was I, I, I, I, I…

  293. DW says:

    Wait…so that’s not a joke? Kennedy gave the speech with a car in the background? Was the car upside-down in the water?

  294. Messy57 says:

    No one thought he was going to declare: “I’m going to rape your little daughters and steal their lollypops!”

    I didn’t see Joe Kennedy’s rebuttal. We’ll see what happens next week.

  295. DW says:

    I thought Trump got the better of the Dems on the question of the immigration plan. The Dems booed, but its been a while since we heard a POTUS stand there and talk plainly about a compromise where both sides don’t get all they want, but the bill should be passed because it benefits the country and moves us forward. To most viewers, that sounds reasonable and sane.

    But Dems have been spoiled for 8 years of SOTU speeches, where all they had to do applaud and clap while the speaker worships himself.

  296. mnw says:

    “Private Payrolls Rise More Than Expected— 204000 vs. 185000”

    DOW futures +200

  297. jason says:

    Looks like Stormy Daniels played Kimmel like a fiddle, got tons of publicity, and ended up giving him diddly squat.

  298. jason says:

    Sounds like Messy is disappointed.

    It must suck to be a moonbat while Trump is President.

  299. jason says:

    Talk is that Mueller is calling investigation off because he loved the speech.”

    Who is doing the talking?

  300. jason says:

    She is a better human being than Trump,”

    Poor Corey, still trying to someway, somehow justify why he was so wrong about the election.

    The best he can come up with is to say somebody as amoral, despicable and corrupt as Hillary Clinton is “better” than someone else.

    Sad, really.

  301. jason says:

    LOL

    MSM take on Stormy Daniels interview.

    “Porn star casts doubt on denial of affair with Trump”

  302. Paul says:

    Best speech ever.
    Mueller investigation is now called off.
    House is safe for GOP.
    GOP gets 60 seat majority in Senate.
    Trump declared president for life.

  303. DW says:

    Generic Congressional ballot:

    Economist/you gov almost same as last week. Now:

    D 42
    R 37

  304. mnw says:

    The big newspapers in KC & STL are covering Josh Hawley, the putative GOP nominee for MO Senate, exactly like the NYT & WaPo are covering DJT.

  305. DW says:

    Link at RCP: Joseph Kennedy III Delivers Dem Response to SOTU: Bullies Can’t Match The Strength Of A People United

    The problem for Kennedy was that Trump never came off as a bully, but instead kept talking about the strength of the people united.

    Kennedy’s idea was was to fight against the version of Trump that didn’t show up at the SOTU. Tough sell. But I guess what else could he say?

    “The Democrat Party hates Trump, so we will work hard to re-send all these jobs overseas, and pull all that money back out of your pockets”

  306. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/abdbozkurt/status/958679379378425856

    -I can remember when one of Robbie’s criticisms of Trump was the supposed refusal to confirm that the United States would invoke NATO Article 5 if a treaty participant is attacked…….I wonder if he can ‘splain to me what happens in this situation….

  307. mnw says:

    What upsets the DEMs today is the realization that the public accepts Trump as POTUS, altho the DEMs & their media running dogs do not.

    Remember, accountingfield told us that muh derangement would definitely be an issue in the midterms!

  308. NYCmike says:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-on-immigration-trump-goes-for-it-all/article/2647549

    “”Compromise is not a bad word to me,” Trump answered. “But if you are going to compromise, ask for about three times more than you want. You understand? So when you compromise, you get what you want.””

    -Heh…..much different than Marco’s (and “CG” and jason) approach.

    Again, I ask, if Gang of 8 included all of these items, why isn’t Schumer, Durbin, and the whole Gang of 8 onboard and pushing this deal?

  309. Waingro says:

    Econ/YouGov has the CGB at D+5 today. RCP average now D+8.

  310. NYCmike says:

    “In the end, a Trump victory on the wall would be absolutely remarkable. Just think back to all those Democrats and activists and other Trump opponents who virtually pledged to throw their bodies in front of any effort to build a wall. The ones who pledged that Congress would never approve a wall. That it would never, ever, ever be built.”

    -Unfortunately, I do NOT agree that this is the biggest compromise for the Democrats. What do they really care if more tax-payer $$$ are spent?

  311. NYCmike says:

    https://nypost.com/2018/01/31/donald-trump-is-still-the-man-to-these-blue-collar-voters/

    ““I just wonder if they thought this through past their politics, on many of these things all of America is applauding while they are sitting,” said 14-year-old Natalie.”

    -I always wanted to advise the Republicans, during the Obama years, to jump up and applaud everything.

    Then, after the speech is over, simply say they appreciate the President’s thoughts of helping the American people, but totally disagree with his methods, and we think it is better to do in this manner……and then communicate their vision.*

    *YES, I KNOW, WAY TOO MUCH TO ASK!

  312. janz says:

    Good SOTU speech last night. It was measured, disciplined, gracious to the American people, and appeared to dismiss the scowling Dems in front of him.

    I also loved his “Americans are dreamers too” line, as well as the array of personal stories represented by the invitees sitting around FLOTUS. All, IMO, seemed to depict the heart of what America represents to the world today.

  313. DW says:

    319 – the Dems didn’t do well at the optics game last night. I mean when AA unemployment is at an all time low, can’t everyone applaud?

    But no, Dems sat on their hands and kept the scowl on their faces. Now, maybe its true that their confidence in perpetual 95% AA vote is well-founded.

    But at some point they run the risk of AAs waking up and realizing they no longer have to be slaves on the Dem cotton plantation.

  314. DW says:

    I personally know some people who have met and are close to the family of soldier who Trump mentioned that was gravely wounded, Kenton Stacy.

    Trump only said that he is recovering from his wounds in Texas. Sadly Stacy was gravely wounded, losing sight in one eye, damage to the trachea area and spinal cord…and probably will be permanently paralyzed from the neck down.

    Pray for him if you think of it.

  315. jason says:

    Still waiting for NYC to answer yes or no on whether he would accept Cotton Perdue with ZERO cuts to LEGAL immigration.

  316. Chicon says:

    324 – Objection, your Honor. Asked and answered.

  317. jason says:

    So far all I got was BS

    “So NYC you would support Cotton Perdue if it included ZERO cuts to LEGAL immigration?”

    -I have said repeatedly, if this is the only sticking point, the number is fungible. I’ll gladly take the other issues, and compromise on this…..since both Cotton-Perdue are still supporting Trump with his 1.8 million number of illegals given citizenship, I would suspect, as I also wrote repeatedly, that they would give in on the numbers of legal immigrants in return for the other issues.”

    Not “fungible”. Not “I will compromise on the number”

    I am asking if he will support it with ZERO cuts to LEGAL immigration.

    Yes or no? Very simple to answer.

  318. NYCmike says:

    Can someone help jason navigate HHR? He has only been here for like 10 or more years, so I can understand he is still not comfortable with the site.

    jason says:
    January 31, 2018 at 10:43 am

    Still waiting for NYC to answer yes or no on whether he would accept Cotton Perdue with ZERO cuts to LEGAL immigration.

    NYCmike says:
    January 30, 2018 at 6:32 pm

    “Is that a yes or a no?

    It’s a simple question.”

    -Did you read what I wrote earlier?

    Yes, I would take a deal that gives most of Cotton-Perdue with ZERO change (no increase, no decrease) in legal immigration numbers.

    Make that deal yesterday!

    NYCmike says:
    January 30, 2018 at 6:33 pm

    “NYC is not working, he is afraid to answer the question.”

    -How many times is a person allowed to be wrong every day?

    How many seconds in a day?

    NYCmike says:
    January 30, 2018 at 6:34 pm

    “If he answers yes, then he admits Cotton Perdue is a waste of time.”

    -75% of what they want is, according to jason, “a waste of time”.

    Got it.

    And this is the guy that calls people “deadenders”!

  319. NYCmike says:

    Highlights:

    NYCmike says:
    January 30, 2018 at 6:32 pm

    “Is that a yes or a no?

    It’s a simple question.”

    -Did you read what I wrote earlier?

    Yes, I would take a deal that gives most of Cotton-Perdue with ZERO change (no increase, no decrease) in legal immigration numbers.

    Make that deal yesterday!

  320. NYCmike says:

    “Yes, I would take a deal that gives most of Cotton-Perdue with ZERO change (no increase, no decrease) in legal immigration numbers.

    Make that deal yesterday!”

  321. DW says:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html

    Direction of Country numbers from Economist/You Gov now show right direction -12, 39/51, the tightest margin in a long time–and this was taken before SOTU.

    Trolls hardest hit.

  322. Paul says:

    GOP retreat train got hit by a trash truck.

  323. NYCmike says:

    Robbie must make a lot of money to go on so many cruises……

  324. Phil says:

    So Kennedy had a car in the background during his response speech. Brilliant optics. He should have gone really all in and given the speech wearing a neck brace.

  325. mnw says:

    Come on, guys

    He was clearly incoherent & insane.

    That book said so.

  326. mnw says:

    Article 25 coming right up!

  327. NYCmike says:

    http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2018/01/trump-americans-are-dreamers-too.html?spref=tw

    -Surber predicted a Trump victory VERY early on in the process……Robbie dismissed him as a nobody!

  328. NYCmike says:

    https://nypost.com/2018/01/30/state-of-the-union-proof-this-is-now-donald-trumps-gop/

    -Can’t argue with this……I was hoping it would have been Rudy 10 years ago, instead I had to wait for another NYC kid.

  329. NYCmike says:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/america-is-waking-up-to-the-farce-that-is-feminism/article/2647471

    “Now, there’s President Trump’s refusal to call himself a feminist.”

    -I do wonder if JEB!2016 would have done the same……..

  330. jason says:

    Ok so NYC agrees to a bill with no cuts in LEGAL immigration.

    Very good. I can also support a lot of what is in the bill as long as there are no cuts to legal immigration.

    Now maybe Cotton Perdue will understand that is a good start in getting support from the R caucus and that proposing a 50% cut in legal immigration is going to get them nowhere.

    Baby steps, baby steps.

  331. jason says:

    -Can’t argue with this…”

    I never argued with it.

    In fact I have been saying all along its Trump’s GOP from the moment he won the nomination.

    It’s the reason I quit the GOP. To the victors go the spoils.

  332. jason says:

    “If he answers yes, then he admits Cotton Perdue is a waste of time.”

    -75% of what they want is, according to jason, “a waste of time”.

    Got it.”

    No you didn’t get it.

    You have admitted Cotton Perdue as it stands now is a waste of time.

    IF they give up on cuts in legal immigration then it won’t be a waste of time.

    Got it now?

  333. jason says:

    Cokie Roberts says Trump should have spoken about Africa so the black members of Congress would have “something to relate to”, and that talking about “standing for the national anthem” would “make them angry”/.

    The MSM has really lost its mind.

    “B]ut he did do a variety of things that clearly did make them angry, and, you know, talking about the national — standing for the national anthem, there were many African-Americans members of Congress there wearing kente cloth — African cloth. The President never mentioned Africa, never said anything like that, so, there was not anything there for them to — to relate to.”

  334. jason says:

    “many African-Americans members of Congress there wearing kente cloth”

    Someone want to comment?

  335. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    You know its bad when the AP headline about the Democratic reply to the Trump SOTU speech was whether Kennedy was drooling.

    https://www.apnews.com/84c1e87a95864eada5ede4688a57a93a/No,-that-wasn't-drool-on-his-lips,-Rep.-Joe-Kennedy-says

    Next will come Al Gore and the ecofreaks complaining about the car, with a internal combustion engine, in the background. Why wasn’t it an electric car, or bicycle?

  336. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    I’ll wait for “CG” to address it.

    He is a little busy on the other blog right now, pining for Mitt Romney to give a separate SOTU next year for his “fellow Never Trumpers”.

  337. mnw says:

    Why is Gowdy retiring, I wonder?

  338. NYCmike says:

    Gowdy “The Rooster” is?

  339. DW says:

    342 – if they love Africa that much, then they should move to South Sudan where they can get good jobs chipping large rocks into small ones.

  340. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/01/31/stop-the-presses-washington-post-changes-front-page-after-complaints-it-was-too-pro-trump/

    -Robbie, “CG”, and #NeverTrumpers believe the media is fighting fairly…….WAPO didn’t get the memo.

  341. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    One reason Trump won was Anglo blue color Americans who usually vote Democratic voted for Trump. The Democrats need to get these voters back. So Pelosi accuses Trump immigration policies of being a “campaign to make America white again.” And Michael Moore declares war on the “white privilege” of those white blue collar voters who voted for Trump.
    Meanwhile, Trump is reaching out to people of color voters.

    This is beginning to resemble the Reagan presidency, when the Democrats crumbled while Reagan held firm, despite a period of unpopularity.

  342. Chicon says:

    Tina didn’t seem to trust The Rooster, but I’m a fan. Too bad he’s leaving.

  343. jason says:

    Anything new on Chapstickgate?

  344. jason says:

    Some of the comments on CBS Boston site are rough….

    “According to the CDC, excessive drooling due is often a sign of RABIES.”

    “How long, and how far, did the ‘Rats have to go to find a drooling Kennedy who isn’t drunk, wasn’t dead and probably hasn’t killed any girls yet?’

    “So he used some chaps stick. Now i get it.”

    “Paddy trash worshiping their gutter royalty”

  345. dblaikie says:

    Trey Gowdy says he is going back to Justice system according to Rush Limbaugh. For me I believe, I may be wrong, but I don’t think I am, that he is going to be appointed as a Special Counsel to investigate the FBI. The other possibility is that he is going to replace Andrew McCabe. We live in interesting times.

  346. Phil says:

    LOL

    Daily Kos is excited about Gowdy leaving. Posters taking it as another sign Republican incumbents are bailing because they fear a tough reelection campaign.

    Cook has the SC district as R+15.

    Yeah, he was in trouble alright.

  347. dblaikie says:

    FBI seems to be very panicked about the release of this memo. Talk about giving the Media red meat!!
    I hope Trump releases the memo so we can judge for ourselves.

  348. Chicon says:

    I’d like to see them release the underlying documents, too, to blunt the “bias” meme. Release Schiff’s memo, too.

  349. Mr.Vito says:

    Wow, btwn train full of Goopers hitting truck and this, God is working hard today to clean up the stink. Thank her. #TreyGowdy #goptrainwreck

    Jonathan Tasini (@jonathantasini) January 31, 2018

    This guy campaigned with Bernie Sanders.

  350. Phil says:

    358

    Sounds like our Pete Wilson troll.

  351. jason says:

    “I am sure arriving in a limo will help with this….

    Levine said there would be a lot of attention on Brown from fellow inmates due to her status as a former politician, and that she could face a tough time as she serves her sentence.

    “When they get high-profile inmates like her, they like to treat them like [expletive],” said Levine. “Seriously, she’s got a rough road ahead of her.”

  352. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    A just-released Monmonth Poll shows The Donald’s Approval/Disapproval among Registered Voters at 44/48,respectively.
    The Conngressional Generic Ballot is D+2,47/45.

    file:///C:/Users/Scott/Downloads/MonmouthPoll_US_013118.pdf

  353. dblaikie says:

    Where is Robbie when you need him? New Monmouth Poll. Trump improvement numbers up 10 points. Generic ballot Dems only plus 2. Since Monmouth usually puts out junk, I can’t imagine how good the numbers really are?

  354. jason says:

    Some of the comments on that story are good too…

    “Maybe she can bunk with Hillary”

  355. Wobbles says:

    Buh, buh, buh… Gallup.

  356. mnw says:

    All charges against Menendez dropped. He got away with it.

  357. DW says:

    The last Monmouth congressional generic ballot, taken prior to the tax bill was D+15

    Now its D+2

    Trolls hardest hit.

  358. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Monmouth, Rasmussen and Economist/YouGov polls all have Trump at 44%. I can see it rising even higher.

    The Monmouth poll (as others had posted) has the partisan split at 47% Democrat and 45% Republican; likely a statistical tie. Economist/YouGov poll has Democrats 42%, Republicans 37%. If in spite of the “resistance” the Democrats only have 42% support at this time, is not a good sign.

    No wonder the trolls have fled.

  359. DW says:

    If D+2 is anywhere near reality this fall, not only is there no blue wave, but the GOP would stand to take only minimal damage in the house, and possibly gain 3 or 4 in the senate.

    Granted, we are a long way from the election and candidate recruitment is ongoing and is huge.

  360. jason says:

    SOTU viewership

    FOXNEWS DOMINATES STATE OF UNION
    JAN 30 2018

    FOXNEWS 11,500,000
    NBC 7,100,000
    CBS 7,000,000
    ABC 5,400,000
    FOX 3,600,000
    CNN 3,100,000
    MSNBC 2,700,000

  361. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    369. With so many urban districts being heavily Democratic, the D+2 advantage evaporates elsewhere.

  362. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    370. So of the 40,400,000 people who watched Trump’s SOTU speech; 38% watched Fox/Fox News, and 14% watched either CNN or MSNBC.

  363. Phil says:

    371

    Exactly

  364. Waingro says:

    #369, oh if it’s only D+2, I bet GOP takes more than 3-4 Senate seats.

  365. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “The FBI has issued a rare public warning that expresses “grave concerns” over the Nunes memo, saying there are “material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy””

    Uh oh. Sounds like the FBI is worried.

  366. DW says:

    371 – precisely.

    It must be particularly frustrating being the liberal media.

    They had 8 years of worshiping their socialist hero, expecting the European-style socialist utopia to follow. Instead, those years were wasted, the economy and opportunity slumped, and now under Trump, a person they despise with all their beings, economy is booming.

    Their posture is analogous to the 1980 Soviet Hockey team. At the top of their game, and after two decades of dominance, there was no way they could lose against upstart American college students. But it happened.

    After 8 years of Obama-utopia the media had Hillary, their next champion, who could not lose against an upstart with a lot of baggage.

    Come to think of it, there are a few similarities between Trump and Herb Brooks. There was that famous moment in the game against Czechoslovakia when star USA player Mark Johnson was dropped by a cheap shot, ABC Sports caught Brooks’ response live on camera. Brooks hollered out to the Czech player, ‘I’m gonna bury that G–D— stick down your throat’

    What a contrast at the time Brooks made against Jimmy Carter who allowed Iran to walk all over him.

  367. DW says:

    374 – maybe, but we need to see what recruits we get.

  368. Waingro says:

    Libs, MFM and a few concern trolls at RRH predicting DOOM because of this:

    Alex Roarty
    ?Verified account @Alex_Roarty
    3h3 hours ago

    Major GOP Senate candidate (Hawley in Missouri) takes aim at the ‘sexual revolution’ of the 1960s, blames it for modern-day sex trafficking http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/the-buzz/article197603534.html

  369. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    #374. Would agree, if you take California, Illinois, New York & other Democratic states out of the 2%, would likely be a several point Republican majority.

  370. DW says:

    378 – read it and its nothing. Its a Christian running for senate in Missouri. Last time I checked, there are a few Christians in Missouri.

  371. mnw says:

    The Hawley statement is unexceptional. Proof positive he’s a conventional Christian.

  372. mnw says:

    Even RRH (as I read the comments) agreed Hawley’s statement was nothing— except for posters who are lefty trolls even by RRH standards.

  373. Paul says:

    Hawley might lose radical feminists.

  374. NYCmike says:

    I think you are a radical feminist……but probably prettier than most of them!

  375. mnw says:

    The breaking Hawley story makes my post 312 above look prescient, if I do say so.

  376. NYCmike says:

    You called it.

  377. CG says:

    It’s dumb “reporting.” Gutierrez left right before the end of the speech to get his already crafted statement (about the Russian translation) to the media first.

    He beat the traffic!

  378. CG says:

    If he was storming out in protest, he would say so, wouldn’t he? Wouldn’t that get him points with the left?

    His spokesman is said he left because he had an interview scheduled with Univision immediately after the speech ended.

  379. Waingro says:

    “Hawley might lose radical feminists.”

    Well then Congratulations, Senator Hawley.

  380. CG says:

    I wonder what Hawley thinks about married men who pay hush money to porn stars they have extra-marital affairs with.

  381. CG says:

    I don’t think Hawley said anything that is not worthy of discussion, but it clearly is not the only justifiable excuse for social problems.

    And forced prostitution or sex slavery was far, far more prevalent in the United States long before the “sexual revolution.”

    Needless to say it involved black slaves who were horribly exploited and abused.

  382. mnw says:

    Is CG the same Corey from Canada we called CCCP?

  383. CG says:

    If Hawley wanted to be more complete, he could have talked about society’s changing mores and attitude toward acceptance of drug use and how drug addiction leads people into selling themselves or being trapped in an underground industry.

  384. CG says:

    393. It will take years before you get it, no matter how many times it has been explained to you by multiple people.

    CG is Corey, not Cory, and from the US of A, not Canada.

    Go Cubs!

  385. CG says:

    fun fact: Hawley was born on the very last day of the 1970s.

  386. NYCmike says:

    “I wonder what Hawley thinks about married men who pay hush money to porn stars they have extra-marital affairs with.”

    -Which porn star was paid hush money?

    I know one porn star who has denied she was paid hush money, denied she had an extra-marital affair, and done so repeatedly.

  387. CG says:

    If Hawley thinks that there is a major problem in Missouri of women being forced into prostitution and sold on the black market, I would hope he would also feel the same way about males who would be similarly exploited.

    The major problem with what he said is that he reads like he was just pandering his ass off before a crowd he was speaking before.

  388. Skippy says:

    New Monmouth Poll

    DEM 47
    GOP 45

    No 2018 Blue Wave?

  389. CG says:

    Well, since she was paid the hush money, she has to “deny” it to keep it, but based on her public statements, including saying yesterday that the signature on the denial did not look like hers, she is basically confirming what happened with a wink and a nod.

    Why would Trump have paid her this money otherwise? It’s indisputable that she was paid by Trump. Is he that bad of a businessman?

  390. CG says:

    I had a lot more to say on PDog, but more technical problems now, and a new log-in component? He’ll have to explain it.

  391. jason says:

    So I get it.

    The “affair” must be true because the woman has denied it.

    I love this place.

  392. CG says:

    She’s not really denying it. (Do you honestly think it did not happen?)

    If it didn’t happen, she got paid $130,000 right before the election for some other reason. Hard to imagine there isn’t a logical explanation for that.

  393. jason says:

    Nothing remarkable about Hawley’s statement, but don’t underestimate the MSM’s capacity to make something of it.

    Hawley is a good candidate, you can bet the Dems and the MSM are going to do what they can to take him down.

  394. CG says:

    Wes definitely won’t like Hawley’s statement.

  395. jason says:

    I don’t know if she got paid or if its true.

    There is no evidence either way, or even if she got paid anything what it was for.

    And frankly, its completely irrelevant to me if Trump had an affair ten years before he became President.

  396. CG says:

    The evidence she got paid is there.

    We don’t know what for, to be technical, but I don’t really think it takes a rocket scientist to surmise, based on her lengthy and detailed interview from several years before.

  397. jason says:

    (Do you honestly think it did not happen?)?

    I don’t know, neither do you.

    Put a gun to my head, I say its probably BS.

  398. jason says:

    Zzzzzzzz…

    If every woman who alleged having slept with famous people was true, famous people would be getting laid a lot more than they really are.

  399. jason says:

    In any event, it has zero relevancy to Trump’s presidency today.

    Any of the real crimes Hillary is accused of are far worse than an affair.

  400. jason says:

    I think this is an obvious attempt to “Akin” Hawley.

    I don’t think it will work.

  401. CG says:

    Would you care if Trump had an affair while President?

    Just wondering.

  402. CG says:

    Well, this is a bit of a plot twist.

    http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/31/politics/strzok-fbi-comey-clinton-letter/index.html

    I am sure you folks will have some explanation such as CNN= 100% fake.

  403. Redmen4ever says:

    Mueller forms grand jury to investigate Russia hacking Monmouth Poll.

  404. DW says:

    415 – while he is checking, he should investigate how it was the Russians slipped the image of a car into the background of Kennedy’s speech.

  405. Hugh says:

    So how is this news?

  406. DW says:

    New Reuters/Ipsos on Trump approval: -12. Their prior poll was -22.
    And this upgrade was collected before the speech.

    trolls hardest hit

  407. jason says:

    Another nevertrumper moves on…

    from Luntz, on Twitter: “Tonight, I owe Donald Trump an apology. Tonight, I was moved and inspired. Tonight, I have hope and faith in America again. It may go away tomorrow. But tonight, America is great again. #SOTU.”

  408. jason says:

    CNN = 100% FAKE

  409. CG says:

    Spoiler Alert:

    It will go away for Luntz.

  410. jason says:

    I love prompts to write what I think.

  411. jason says:

    Oh, Luntz is still an idiot, don’t get me wrong.

  412. jason says:

    Would you care if Trump had an affair while President?

    Just wondering.”

    I would view it as disrespectful to the office.

  413. jason says:

    This is how far the Dems have come. They are offended by the word “family”.

    “You’ve just imagined how MSNBC host Joy Reid felt after President Trump’s State of the Union speech last night.

    “Church … family … police … military … the national anthem … Trump trying to call on all the tropes of 1950s-era nationalism. The goal of this speech appears to be to force the normalization of Trump on the terms of the bygone era his supporters are nostalgic for,” tweeted Reid.

    Translation: people who believe in church, family, the anthem and support the police and military are “nostalgic”.

  414. CG says:

    How about people who support all those things, and also the FBI and CIA?

  415. jason says:

    The sad part is, these people are actually winning the cultural war.

  416. Hugh says:

    I support the fbi and cia but government abuse is the worst kind because the normal rules do not apply to them and their power to destroy innocent people is great. I’ve seen them attempt it

  417. CG says:

    And that’s exactly what Black Lives Matter says about local police. And in some cases, there are of course very bad cops, but that’s far more the exception than the rule.

    Same goes for the FBI and the CIA. Trying to destroy them as institutions is wrong.

    But for some #orangelivesmatter or #trumpslifemattersmost

  418. jason says:

    I have already explained my position of the FBI, etc.

    Unfortunately, agencies that used to be non-partisan and apolitical have become partisan and politicized, especially over the 8 years of the Obama administration. There seems to have been a concerted effort to fill the agencies based on political criteria rather than merit.

    Certainly we saw this with IRS, the VA, the EPA, NASA, etc. It seems to have happened at the FBI too.

    I support the institutions, not necessarily every person running them.

  419. jason says:

    I don’t see anyone trying to “destroy” the FBI.

    I see people seeking answers to what seems to be some very politically motivated activities.

  420. CG says:

    I trust Robert Mueller to be fair and just, as he has demonstrated in his entire career. I wonder why others are so reluctant to say the same.

    Goodnight.

  421. jason says:

    And I would agree that its probably the exception than the rule, I am sure the vast majority of the people in the FBI are competent professionals.

  422. Chicon says:

    429 – BLM believes there is systemic, institutional racism within local police. The current examination of the FBI is about upper management getting heavily into politics and injuring the reputation of the agent on the street.

  423. Phil says:

    432

    Because we have seen number of Hillary money donators he has hired for his investigation.

    If you were Trump you’d be naive to ignore that.

  424. Waingro says:

    #418, good polling news all around for Trump and GOP today, and that’s before the well-received SOTU gets baked into the cake.

    I bet Trump goes above 50% in Ras at some point in next week and probably gets to 45%+ in RCP average. The only caveat will be if he says something stupid on Twitter to stop the momentum….

  425. Mr.Vito says:

    I missed the hordes of conservatives in the streets yelling F the FBI and calling for their immediate desths.

  426. NYCmike says:

    #434 – Chicon,

    Right on!

    Totally different situations, and, once again, “CG” can’t discern the difference between the 2.

  427. Mr.Vito says:

    Where do we get our copy of the definitive rankings of human beings by quality?

    Did Corey have to ascend MtSinai for his?

  428. NYCmike says:

    Even MD’s socks notice the difference, from the ground up!

  429. Mr.Vito says:

    I watched a couple of Hannitys this week on the net to see what was was going on… each time he emphasized how much he cared for regular bure.au guys and their great and difficult work, and that the corrupt.ion at the top by Obama appointees is the focus.

  430. NYCmike says:

    “CG” (and Adam Schiff/Pelosi/Schumer/Robbie) believes full disclosure means that you want to shut down the FBI/CIA etc.

  431. Tina says:

    Trump has had a. Good month since tax cuts.

    Of course, with schiff for brains, piglosi, amnesty guterrez, as the faces of the mad party.

  432. Tina says:

    Aclu triggered by trump using the word america.

    Jebots in support of aclu.

  433. Tina says:

    Breaking.

    Mulehead and flynn lawyers agree to postpone sentencing,

    I feel like so,ething will haooen here given the cloud of pete the cheats involvement here.

  434. Tina says:

    In short, I do not see how a judge can accept a plea by flynn given petes involvement in the interview of flynn, and the illegal wiretap.

  435. NYCmike says:

    Quick question: Is everyone buying a ta-ta-towel for their wife for Valentine’s Day?*

    *The email I just received say they are the hottest thing……never even heard of them!

    Someone is making a fortune because of this…..is this country amazing or what!??!?

  436. Mr.Vito says:

    No. They look like they could hurt the neck.

  437. Tina says:

    Breaking.

    Reports are rosenstein to be fired for using dossier to obtain illegal warrant,

  438. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/bethb-313034/2018/01/31/watch-michelle-obama-reveals-what-melania-trump-gifted-her-during-inauguration-ceremonies/

    -Michelle Obama has ZERO class!

    And Laura Bush showed her just 8 years prior how she was supposed to handle this situation.

    Melania, make sure you remember, when Mrs. Pence gives you a gift, in 2025.

  439. NYCmike says:

    Rosenstein??

    WTF?

  440. NYCmike says:

    The Michelle Obama video made me find this one. George W is a damn fine man, not-that-bad a President (especially when compared to Obama), and I hope that Trump will learn something about humility from mingling with Dubya in the future.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGuxcsRP_uI

  441. NYCmike says:

    Trump said “We” 129 times.
    Trump said “America” over 80 times.

    “CG” thinks Romney should give a Republican response to the SOTU next year.

  442. Tgca says:

    450. NYC

    Stop being a misogynist. Clearly many men can make use of Ta Ta towels too. I’m sure Michael Moore would appreciate one for those hot Midwest summer days.

  443. Chicon says:

    I think something in the FBI deleted text deal from last week has largely escaped scrutiny….

    Recall that the FBI told Congress that several months worth of Page/Strzok texts were missing. So sorry. Cut to the IG, who “recovers” them in a day or two.

    Why didn’t the FBI do what the IG did to recover them before telling Congress they were gone? Did they even try?

    More that a tad smelly…..

  444. Chicon says:

    455 – that’s about the number of times BHO said “I” or “my Administration”.

  445. MichiganGuy says:

    * BOOM *

    Generic Congressional Ballot:

    Democrats 47% (+2)
    Republicans 45%

    MonmouthPoll 1/28-30

    https://t.co/u1F0QuxETy

  446. Mr.Vito says:

    “More that a tad smelly…..”

    Michael Moore’s Moobs

  447. Tina says:

    This is making more sense,

    Pete the cheat claims that flynn did not lie during the interview.

    302 may have been changed by mccabe whi hates flynn.

  448. Paul says:

    Tina says: Reports are rosenstein to be fired for using dossier to obtain illegal warrant,

    Rosenstein only began in his position after being nominated by Trump in April. Why would he be fired over the dossier?

  449. Tina says:

    Tad smelky, nah just a trap.

  450. Mr.Vito says:

    I’m not saying Rosenstein is in trouble. But the answer to ‘why would he be’ is that he renewed the FISA warrant and would have had to say he had probable cause.

  451. Paul says:

    So likely he had probable cause.

  452. Mr.Vito says:

    Then he should have nothing to worry about.

  453. Paul says:

    It just smells like politics of smears above national security on Nunes and gangs part.

  454. Mr.Vito says:

    Then you know how Trump feels.

  455. mnw says:

    “Politics of smears above national security” ?!?!

    WHAT WAS THE PEE DOSSIER?

    U a ho, paultroll. Most transparent hypocrite I’ve ever seen.

  456. hugh says:

    tick tick tick. the fbi and doj leadership are going to get theirs. It always starts small, then to stay out of trouble it takes only one more small indiscretion and it grows and grows. I am not sure if anything happens to trump, but key fbi and doj leaders will be in big trouble.

  457. Chicon says:

    Paul and the Dems are just so sure….even though they haven’t read the memo.

  458. Paul says:

    mnw: The Dossier wasn’t used for political gain but was turned over to the FBI.

  459. Mr.Vito says:

    “The Dossier wasn’t used for political gain…”

    You must mean prior to the election, but it clearly was afterward…

    The dossier was shopped to all the networks, and was alluded to frequently.

    Listen to Richard Engel on NBC election night, and you will see he has clearly knows all about it and is scared out of his mind. Then tell me how it didn’t shape any network coverage of Trump.

  460. Mr.Vito says:

    *since it clearly was afterward

  461. Paul says:

    I assume FBI straight-shooters like Rosenstein weren’t so easily duped. They obviously had reason beyond the dossier for the FISA warrant. However, some of these subtleties will be lost in this heated super-partisan pro-Trump atmosphere.

  462. Chicon says:

    472 – where it was then used for political gain….

  463. Paul says:

    476: What political gain do you speak of?

  464. Chicon says:

    475 – assuming again, just like your conclusions about the memo.

  465. Chicon says:

    Turning it over to the FBI IS the political gain.

  466. Paul says:

    What do you mean, Chicon?

  467. Chicon says:

    You’re a troll, Paul.

  468. Tina says:

    The fbi should hever have relied on the unvetted document thwt originated with campaign hillary.

    Comedy should never have paid for it.

  469. Mr.Vito says:

    Let’s cut to the chase…

    The dossier should not have been anywhere near a FISA court now that we know its origin.

    The only real questions are
    1) was it in there
    2) did they know the ties to Hillary
    3) if so, who failed to disclose them

  470. Tina says:

    Breaking.

    Wray has used the word factual omissions to mean the following

    The memo gets released with all supporting documents.

  471. Tina says:

    It means only that. Yesterday, wray said mo orobkem with the memo.

    The day before that, mccabe resigned.

    If wray had a problem with the memo, mccabe would not be fired.

  472. Tina says:

    So, there is no problem with the memo.

  473. Cash Cow TM says:

    “grave concerns”

    Maybe the FBI is referring to actual graves where actual bodies are buried….

    HONK.

  474. Cash Cow TM says:

    Dossiers….secret confidential memos….FBI nd others having secret metings…alleged payoffs to pO.RN stars…

    This is just like a giant, true, contiNuing soap opera.

  475. Hugh says:

    Paul. I don’t believe that corruption is generally in the form of some unethical person doing something blatantly wrong. My guess is that guys like rothstein we’re straight shooters who at first bent a few rules or covered for a friend. Then slowly but surely they get a bit deeper. Then there is a choice fix things or cover things up and hope it goes away. Which it would have if Hillary won. However now they have played a stalling game hoping politically the gop gave up because trump was so damaged or they could stall for the Midterms and the dems won the house or senate and could cover for them. Not hard to do with the msm on their side. I think they failed and now the scum and the people who slid slowly into the web are going to get crushed. My hope is they pay big as a warning to people high in government to be fair.

  476. NYCmike says:

    HUGH got it!

    Paul will too, and the people he is begging to give it to him will get theirs as well!

  477. Wes says:

    Ay Dios Mio…

    Josh Hawley said nothing offensive or controversial. He may not have an entirely mainstream view, but he’s no Todd Akin. This is no career-ending statement by him. Eeyoring his statement is something I simply don’t understand.

  478. Waingro says:

    This reeks of a pathetic delay tactic to me.
    https://twitter.com/repadamschiff/status/958897790469464064

  479. Waingro says:

    “BREAKING: Discovered late tonight that Chairman Nunes made material changes to the memo he sent to White House – changes not approved by the Committee. White House therefore reviewing a document the Committee has not approved for release.”

  480. Wes says:

    I just saw Corey’s statement in 406. He was wrong as usual.

  481. NYCmike says:

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/01/the-fbi-has-grave-concerns-so-do-i.php

    -Paul,

    This writer has been writing about politicization of the FBI and DOJ since 2010. Maybe take a look a some of his writings in your spare time.

  482. Paul says:

    I don’t know. Now that it is Trump appointees in the cross-hairs of Nunes, the whole thing feels like it is overreaching.

  483. Tina says:

    Yup, bunes changed everythung. Schiff is lying as usual.

    It is the meo with all the docs. Unredacted. All released.

  484. Waingro says:

    Concern trolls on twitter going bonkers about Adam Schiff’s stupid letter.

  485. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Trumps attorney tell mulehead to disclose the crimes he is going after. Absent a list of crimes involving trump, no interview,

    Artorneys maintain that mulehead has not met the. Inimum evidentiary standard,

    In short, mulehead go eat hay.

  486. Hugh says:

    493. Link

  487. Waingro says:

    500, link is in 492

  488. Tina says:

    There is nothing schiff for brains, or the fbi doj can do, trump leads the executive branch. Schiff has no say in the matter. He is just soewing sheot.

  489. Tina says:

    There are rumours that schiff for brains is memtioned in the memk doing something illegal.

    I mean the rooster has siad that schiff for brains will be embarassed.

  490. Hugh says:

    Well I have my doubts about anything that guys says. We’ll see

  491. NYCmike says:

    If Nunes did release a memo with changes, isn’t that a legitimate point of contention?

    Why would Nunes do that? Is that above board?

    Or is Schiff just blowing smoke?

  492. Hugh says:

    My guess is the later

  493. Tina says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/01/stunning-comey-mccabe-delayed-notifying-congress-weiner-laptop-emails-discovered-election/

    This is old nees, fbimwas forced to disclose, because of the nypd ratting them out. Otherwise, comedynand mccabe sit on this.

  494. Tina says:

    Breaking memo to be released tomorow,

  495. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Tina CopyPasta’ing so fast lies from across the alt-right. A dumber person might admire her fastidious devotion to lies.

    So Nunes, who was caught trying to collude with Trump by leaking information before and had to “recuse” himself is trying to release a memo of selective “facts” to try to prove that the FBI is politicized.

    Nevermind that one of the leaders of the “secret group” was one of those primarily responsible for the Comey memo about Hillary’s emails that helped Trump win the election.

    Nevermind the fact that Nunes had no grounds for releasing the Memo having conjured up a fake excuse about a made-up investigation by the committee he chairs into the “corruption of the FBI” that had been ongoing for months. An investigation so secretive that no Democratic member on the same committee had any knowledge of it.

    Nevermind that the memo itself endangers intelligence-gathering operations for no reason other than to score cheap political points with only the dumbest parts of the Trump base (read Tina).

    Yeah. The outright flamboyance with which Nunes is acting means he is probably a co-conspirator.

    He and Trump will make good bunk buddies in a federal prison in Alaska somewhere.

  496. Mr.Vito says:

    Nunes was cleared of wrongdoing after opponents tried to derail him.

    McCabe is being investigated now for stonewalling the information until he was forced by NYPD. They rushed out that nothing changed their decision and now 18 classified emails have been found on Weiners laptop, only going firther to prove they mishandled the case.

    Apparently no member of the Democrat party knows how to read public headlines that the DOJ was not returning information subpoenaed gor oversight.How secretive.

    The memo has been slow rolled for two weeks so that every avsilable opportunity could be made to ensire it does not endanger anything.

    I see the nutball left’s dream list of political prisoners is growing steadily.

  497. mnw says:

    The Kindergarden (sic) Kid has dropped by.

    “Nevermind” is 2 words, Kindergarden (sic).

    Illiterate? You betcha. But at least this time it didn’t dump an insane tirade here. Remember the last one? Classic, wasn’t it?

  498. Mr.Vito says:

    Maybe this guy is a bad parody. The pattern of bloviating and then undermining oneself is there but without the humor.

  499. Mr.Vito says:

    He is also hung up on DW, mnw, and Tina.

    Cory had a special contempt for those three, but I dont remember him ever making arguments this poorly.

    Who is the poor man’s Cory?

  500. Tina says:

    The edits made to the memo consisted of two spelling errors and one edit to a source requested by both the fbi and the house drats on the committee.

    The memo is coming,mthe drats and jebots will continue to freak out. Then, all back up comes out. Then the ig memo.

  501. Tina says:

    that one of the leaders of the “secret group” was one of those primarily responsible for the Comey memo about Hillary’s emails that helped Trump win the election.

    I am concerned with what said person and his mistress were doing in andys office, discussing an insurance policy. His texts are also alarming for several reasons.

    You also do not find it strange that comedy drafted an exonerati9n memo into her thighness, well before the investigation concluded?

  502. Tina says:

    The FBI thought the memo was so inaccurate, that one day after reading it, for the first time in the history of the Bureau, the Director removed the Deputy Director from his post.

  503. Tina says:

    ardillo Retweeted
    Byron York
    Byron York
    @ByronYork
    ·
    8h
    Just talked with House Intel source. Said total changes to memo were: A) Unknown number of ‘grammatical and clarifying’ fixes. B) One change requested by FBI due to sources & methods concerns. C) One two-word change requested by Democrats for accuracy. House Intel GOP statement:

    So, a and c pertain to typos, mispellings, etc. Brownstoan Street is actually Brownstone Way. It is insignificant.

    B relates to protecting a source. Gee, the executive branch is doing its job.

  504. Mr.Vito says:

    Stalling only makes them look really deperate to hide something… why not just say it’s political and you’ll see it clearly when it is released?

    It makes people take it more seriously when you undercut your ability to say it’s much ado about nothing.

  505. DW says:

    There is an episode of the British detective series ‘Foyle’s War’ (set during WWII) where a hotel owner hates his wife. His wife is an anti-semite who convinces her husband with certainty that Germans will invade England any day. The husband believes it, and so he murders his wife thinking that he will get away with it under the cover of the chaos caused by the invasion.

    The invasion never happened of course and so Foyle finds him out as the murderer.

    Fast forward to Hillary Clinton and all the corruption she was involved in leading up to the 2016 election. Some of it was right there in plain sight, and much of it is now coming to light–why was she so careless? It didn’t matter, she was going to win the election and then use the power of POTUS to smother any sniff of scandal or corruption.

    But somehow she didn’t win. And now she faces the ongoing consequences. Good article at national review about this, though now I cannot find the link.

  506. Mr.Vito says:

    Queen Maxine wants to make Trump even cooler to kids apparently by making networks put a parental advisory on the screen.

  507. MichiganGuy says:

    Heading to beautiful West Virginia to be with great members of the Republican Party. Will be planning Infrastructure and discussing Immigration and DACA, not easy when we have no support from the Democrats. NOT ONE DEM VOTED FOR OUR TAX CUT BILL! Need more Republicans in ‘18.

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/959029384052166657
    ————————————————————————————–
    Walt say hi to the President for me. Cash Cow behave yourself.

  508. DW says:

    Updated Reuters/Ipsos generic congressional ballot.

    A week ago was D+8
    Now D+6

  509. phoenixrisen says:

    Man are the Dems sweating this 🙂 Getting too much popcorn. Phil! Make me another batch!

  510. DW says:

    Finally got around to looking at the speech of Joe Kennedy, III. He should have stuck with the speech I prepared for him.

  511. DW says:

    527 – read link in 524.

  512. phoenixrisen says:

    # 529. Great article DW

  513. mnw says:

    FL Gov Scott’s appv/disprove is 58/31

    Run Scott run.

  514. mnw says:

    Otoh, Scott Walker is in trouble in WI. Likely the underdog to any DEM.

  515. Bitterlaw says:

    Philadelphia Democrat Bob Brady (PA-1) will not seek another term in Congress. His successor may struggle and only get 89% of the vote.

  516. mnw says:

    RAS 45 today.

  517. Phil says:

    Democrats double down on stupid

    …….promise to repeal and replace tax cuts. Yeah, baby. Crumbs! Run on that in 2018. It’s a winner!

    Seriously. These lefties can’t stand to see anyone keep more of their money. You see, folks, all money belongs to the almighty government.

  518. jason says:

    CG says:
    January 31, 2018 at 4:57 pm

    Wes definitely won’t like Hawley’s statement.”

    Wes says:
    January 31, 2018 at 10:36 pm

    Ay Dios Mio…

    Josh Hawley said nothing offensive or controversial. He may not have an entirely mainstream view, but he’s no Todd Akin. This is no career-ending statement by him. Eeyoring his statement is something I simply don’t understand.”

    Yep, I know, I said the same last night.

    Corey is so desperate for revenge on Rs for not supporting his candidate that he is actually rooting for Claire McCaskill.

    Sad.

  519. Phil says:

    Sky Queen hoping to get two Akins back to back.

    Sorry, Claire,…..isn’t happening for you this time. Start cleaning out your desk.

  520. mnw says:

    jason

    Hawley does need to step his game up.

    Unless something GOOD for Hawley is happening, the KC Scar & the STL Post-Disgrace will make damn certain something BAD is happening.

    The nonsense yesterday was a good example of that. That “story” was a Scar smear attempt: “Look out! Here comes Akin 2.0!”

    Hawley’s FR numbers were poor for the last quarter.

  521. GPO says:

    A Scott bid would complicate Democratic hopes of winning back the Senate next year — of the 10 Democrats up for reelection in states carried by President Donald Trump, Nelson has been considered one of the most vulnerable.

    The term-limited governor said Tuesday that he’ll make up his mind about the race after the March 9 end of his last regular 60-day legislative session as governor. Scott won’t say which way he’s leaning, but some of those familiar with the governor’s thinking peg the likelihood of him running between 80 and 95 percent.

  522. NYCmike says:

    “Corey is so desperate for revenge on Rs for not supporting his candidate that he is actually rooting for Claire McCaskill.”

    -“CG” did not say that at all.

    That said, he is looking forward to seeing Mitt Romney give the “Republican response” to next years SOTU address.

  523. NYCmike says:

    “Otoh, Scott Walker is in trouble in WI. Likely the underdog to any DEM.”

    -Could you elaborate on what type of trouble?

  524. MichiganGuy says:

    Top 10 most popular Governors all Republicans!

    Approve/Disapprove/
    .

    1.CHARLIE BAKER (R-MA)

    69%
    16%

    2.LARRY HOGAN (R-MD)

    66%
    18%

    3.KAY IVEY (R-AL)
    64%
    15%

    4.PHIL SCOTT (R-VT)

    63%
    21%

    5.MATT MEAD (R-WY)

    63%
    24%

    6.BRIAN SANDOVAL (R-NV)

    61%
    19%

    7.GARY HERBERT (R-UT)

    60%
    24%

    8.ASA HUTCHINSON (R-AR)

    59%
    23%

    9.GREG ABBOTT (R-TX)

    59%
    24%

    10.DENNIS DAUGAARD (R-SD)ý

    59%
    31%

    https://morningconsult.com/2018/02/01/governor-rankings-jan-2018/

  525. phoenixrisen says:

    #534 When the Dems cannot get their memo approved to be released, leak it. Going to have to start calling Schiff Congressman Leak

  526. Chicon says:

    544 – open the link.

  527. phoenixrisen says:

    LOL Tina, You got me. That is funny though. Wouldn’t surprise me if that happened.

  528. Chicon says:

    546 – I had the same thought as you when I saw Tina’s post. Their memo will leak when the rest of Congress can see it, imo.

  529. Phil says:

    Funny watching Blue fraud Manchin starting to stand up and applaud durin one of Trump’s SOTU applause lines. Got halfway up and realized his Democratic Senate colleagues weren’t standing and abruptly sank back down and immediately quit applauding.

    Embarrassing, Joe. You spineless fraud. Almost got in trouble with Chuckie. Man, that was close.

  530. jason says:

    PeteWilson’s mental breakdown is an added bonus of the Trump presidency.

  531. jason says:

    “Corey is so desperate for revenge on Rs for not supporting his candidate that he is actually rooting for Claire McCaskill.”

    -“CG” did not say that at all.”

    Zzzzzzzz…

    Why do you think is here touting the MSM smear against Hawley? Because he wants him to win?

    Leave the translations to me.

  532. Tina says:

    Piglosi sends letter wanting nunes removed as chairperson,

  533. jason says:

    That clip will make a nice ad against Manchin in the GE.

    And if he thinks Washington sucks, he is of course free to resign*.

    * NYC’s word for “retire”.

  534. mnw says:

    NYC 543

    Scott Walker’s appv/disapprv is 43/50.

    I don’t KNOW why he’s underwater— perhaps just the normal wear & tear of a long incumbency.

  535. phoenixrisen says:

    Oh….please do this Democrats. Please! You might even get some small snarky contributions from GOP voters to do this.

    https://hotair.com/archives/2018/02/01/now-democrats-repeal-replace-mantra-tax-cuts/

  536. Tina says:

    Looks like pete the cheat and the mistress violated federal records act.

    But Comedy, by taking records, to give to his friend uh lawyah, did the same,

    Charge them all.

  537. Phil says:

    If they promise to run on repealing tax cuts i’ll Send a donation.

  538. Phil says:

    Lock em up!

  539. DW says:

    I am Democrat _____ ______, and I am running for Congress this year to roll back the tax cuts you are currently suffering. If you put Democrats back into power, we promise to repeal the Republican tax cut bill, and replace the bill with the mother of all tax hikes–one that would make Hugo Chavez blush. So come this November, vote ___ ___ for congress and put an end to your suffering the burden of all that money in your pockets.

  540. mnw says:

    Politico has an article up saying that Scott is likely to run against Nelson in FL.

  541. Chicon says:

    560 – I thought I read on here that the coming Blue Wave would keep good GOP candidates on the sidelines?

  542. Tina says:

    I am a Democrat. I am running because I want to impeach Trump for th8nking about firing Mueller.

  543. mnw says:

    Politico FTA:

    Scott has revived a PAC & now has $1.1 mill in it. He has retained some top consultants from past campaigns.

    An ally of Scott, who is identified by name in the article, says the odds of him running are “85-90%.”

    If Scott runs, it’s hard to imagine any worse news for DEMs. Thay’d have to raise a ton of money to defend their sleepy old incumbent.

  544. Tina says:

    I hope Nunes is protected. No telling whst the criminal deep sheot will do.

  545. mnw says:

    I too am a Democrat. I decided to run for Congress this year because I am concerned about the President’s sanity— that and porn stars from 10 years ago.

  546. Tina says:

    #FullofSchiff

  547. jason says:

    Wow, even Wolff says Trump is “right about Mika”?

    Who wouda thunk?

    No honor among fake authors and fake journalists..

    “Wolff slammed Mika and her co-host Joe Scarborough shortly after Thursday’s broadcast, complaining that while she raked him over the coals for speculating about a presidential affair, the pair regularly dish dirt backstage about Trump.

    ‘The last time I was on Morning Joe off camera Joe and Mika eager to gossip about who Trump might be sleeping with,’ Wolff tweeted.

    He added: ‘It really would be hard to gossip more eagerly off camera than Mika and Joe gossip.’

    He tweeted that Brzezinski had invited him on her show ‘with the purpose of being thrown off.’

    ‘In other words, I had to say what Mika wanted me to say, or else…the hook!’

    Wolff also said that President Trump ‘is right about Mika.’

  548. jason says:

    i guess the LA sheriff department has a lot of free time on their hands.

    After 40 years, they now know Robert Wagner was “the last to be with Natalie”….(there were a total of 4 people on the boat and he was her husband)

    Wagner is 87….

    “Nearly 40 years after Natalie Wood died under mysterious circumstances, Los Angeles County Sheriff’s investigators say her widower Robert Wagner is a person of interest in the case.

    “As we’ve investigated the case over the last six years, I think he’s more of a person of interest now,” Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department Lieutenant John Corina said in an upcoming interview with CBS’ 48 Hours. “I mean, we know now that he was the last person to be with Natalie before she disappeared.”

  549. Tina says:

    “[G]rave concerns about material omissions of fact that fundamentally impact the memo’s accuracy.”

    This, per the fb. However, this does not mean the memo is inaccurate. In fact, nobody has disputed its findings from the house and others.

    Imo, this means we will release the supporting or back up documents.

  550. jason says:

    This was brought up by Brit Hume that the FBI had dropped the “inaccuracy” claim and were now only focused on “omissions”.

    Probably has to do with the fact they will allege the dossier was only “part” of the basis for FISA, but even that still pretty damming.

  551. Wobbles says:

    Wolff also said that President Trump ‘is right about Mika.’

    Hi there from Bogo Pogo.

  552. Mr.Vito says:

    In fairness, everything Wolff says is at best 90% garbage.

  553. Robbie says:

    Sorry I haven’t been around to mock the fakes and the frauds like Jason, but I got hit with the H3N2 flu virus. These last 10 days have been something close to miserable.

    Anyway, imagine a president who spoke about nothing other than the information in this tweet between now and election day.

    Brandt?
    @UrbanAchievr

    U.S. ECONOMY SEEN GROWING AT 5.4 PCT IN FIRST QUARTER VS 4.2 PCT ESTMATE ON JAN 29 – ATLANTA FED’S GDPNOW MODEL

  554. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Interesting comment on Rasmussen who today had Trump at 45%.

    “These findings include the first full night of surveying following Trump’s State of the Union speech and mark his best Approval Index rating since last June.”

    Rasmussen also found that 49% wanted a special prosecutor for the FBI; with 31% disagreeing and 19% unsure.

  555. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    #573 is a fake Robbie, #571 is the real Robbie. He is still on Bogo Pogo.

  556. jason says:

    In fairness, everything Wolff says is at best 90% garbage.”

    Yeah, but you might get a nugget of truth here and there, like “Trump is right about Mika”.

    You know, the 2% that isn’t garbage…

  557. Robbie says:

    Before I got whacked by the flu, the discussion here was whether Republicans were actually narrowing the generic ballot deficit. The most recent round of polls, especially the last two, show tightening, but the question I had two weeks ago remains. Are Republicans moving up or are Democrats coming down? The RCP graph shows a little of both which is good.

    The narrowing of the generic ballot also perfectly traces the rise in Trump’s approval rating from 37% to 41% in RCP. This reinforces the long held view (we all agreed on it in 2014) the presidential approval rating is the best predictor of results in a midterm election. If he’s above 45%, that’s good for Republicans. If he’s below 40%, that’s bad.

    The one caution I have, though, is this. Even with these better polls, Trump is still below 45% and the Republican generic ballot number is still struggling to hit 40%. If both of those numbers can move towards 45%, I think the election chances will look a lot better, especially if Trump sticks to the good economic message and doesn’t get sidetracked by nonsense.

  558. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    February 1, 2018 at 1:24 pm
    #573 is a fake Robbie, #571 is the real Robbie. He is still on Bogo Pogo.

    – Blow me, Mr. but Rasmussen.

  559. jason says:

    Anyway, imagine a president who spoke about nothing other than the information in this tweet between now and election day.”

    Translation: let the MSM frame 100% of the conversation and be free to publish fake news unchallenged.

    Zzzzzzzz……

  560. Tina says:

    I believe everything that schiff and Wolffe tell me.

    -jebot

  561. Tina says:

    I seem to recall that trump mentioned the economy in the sotu and in numerous tweets.

  562. Robbie says:

    Good ole Roy Moore is raising money to fund his defense that he didn’t molest a 14 year old girl. I guess Jason has donated to it since he believes the charges were just a political hit.

  563. Chicon says:

    Robbie – glad you’re feeling better, I was worried about you.

    Seems to me that Trump has improved a bit in refraining from the most stupid fights.

    Has your outlook for November changed?

  564. jason says:

    Wobbie is having a tough day, give him a break.

    Trump gave a great speech, the Dems are dropping like a stone from their D + 15 high, the economy is doing well.

    Plus he had the flu, which like the cruise, coincided with some good days for Trump.

  565. Tina says:

    Poor schiff for brains.

    If he leaks, he leaks classified documents.

    He is stuck and panicking.

    An addicted leaker.

  566. Tina says:

    They ar spooked.

    Ex ag holder just unleashed a tweet storm against nunes.

    Phuq you eric holder, pos.

  567. Tina says:

    If they are sheoting over the 4page memo, wait until the ig hands down his report fulky.

  568. jason says:

    guess Jason has donated to it since he believes the charges were just a political hit.”

    It was a political hit job, only a moron like you would believe the timing.

    And what charges exactly?

    “At the time, the statute of limitations for bringing felony charges involving sexual abuse of a minor would have expired three years after the alleged incidents, or sometime between 1980 and 1983. Neither Corfman nor Jones filed a police report after the alleged incidents and no charges were ever brought against Moore.

    Alabama law was later changed to remove the statute of limitations for “any sex offense involving a victim under 16 years of age.” However, the change only applied to crimes committed before Jan. 7, 1985 -years after the alleged Moore incidents- for which there were no existing statute of limitations law, meaning Moore couldn’t be brought up on criminal charges now in connection to sexual abuse charges from 1977 to 1979.

    The statute of limitations for civil suits has also passed. Victims of childhood sexual abuse have two years from their 19th birthday to file a civil suit, according to victimsofcrime.org.

  569. Tina says:

    MAybe, schiff can appeal to stop the memo release to the 9th Circus of Appeals.

    I am sure a loon there can stay something.

  570. jason says:

    The one caution I have, though, is this. Even with these better polls, Trump is still below 45% and the Republican generic ballot number is still struggling to hit 40%. If both of those numbers can move towards 45%, I think the election chances will look a lot better, especially if Trump sticks to the good economic message and doesn’t get sidetracked by nonsense.”

    LOL

    Translation: I am a fraud, let me do a little Cover My Ass here.

  571. Tina says:

    @ChuckRossDC
    A House Intel Committee Republican source is telling me that edits to the FISA memo were made *before* the committee voted to release. Suggests maybe Democrats didn’t see the changes, which source says were “minor” edits.

    So, schiffty lies,mwhat is new?

  572. jason says:

    “are Republicans moving up or are Democrats coming down?”

    Wobbie the clown strikes again.

    Stupidest comment of the day, but its early.

  573. Tina says:

    http://thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/breaking-sen-ron-johnson-demands-obama-hillary-comey-mccabe-emails-strzok-page-texts-raise-red-flags/

    Boo, senator johnson demands emaiks and texts,

    The rs just tagging the sheot of the coup plotters.

  574. Tina says:

    Rep. Jim Himes says on CNN that only @RepAdamSchiff has seen the “material changes” made to GOP memo. Conveniently, Schiff has avoided TV. His office not responding to requests on info of what edits were made and when. (link: http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/01/pelosi-calls-for-nunes-removal-from-house-intel-committee/) dailycaller.com/2018/02/01/pel…

    Schiffty lies and lies, schiff is off tv now.

  575. Redmen4ever says:

    5 percent growth? Since economists quoted by the mainstream media say 4 percent growth is impossible, it doesn’t take a genius to figure out you should skip over 4 and go right to 5 percent growth.

  576. Tina says:

    The list of coup plotters from sen. Johnsons list

    Those names:
    James Comey, James Rybicki, Andrew McCabe, John Giaclone, James Turgal, David Bowdich, Jonathan Moffa, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Trisha Anderson, E.W. Priestap, George Toscas, Randy Coleman, Brian Brooks, Michael Kortan and James Baker

  577. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    577. “The one caution I have, though, is this. Even with these better polls, Trump is still below 45% and the Republican generic ballot number is still struggling to hit 40%”

    The Economist/You Gov poll and Monmouth both have Trump at 44%; Rasmussen at 45%. Monmouth has Democrats at 47% and Republicans at 45% for the congressional races.

    Agree there is a Democratic imposition going on, and Trump has done very well over the several weeks. The FBI being mired in scandal is also helping him.

  578. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Democrats are in total melt down over the Nunes memo; cannot believe the shrillness of the attacks. What ever happened to the claim that the “people have a right to know and make their own judgment”?

  579. zorkpolitics says:

    Suppose Bush administration officials had used FISA warrants to review potential contacts by Obama National Security advisers with Iran in 2008 during the Obama campaign. Do you think the Democrats would be outraged at Congressional review?

  580. Bitterlaw says:

    DC

  581. Tina says:

    FBI agent Strzok to FBI lawyer Lisa Page: “If I want to copy/take classified, I’m sure as hell not going to do it on this phone.”

    Omg.

  582. dblaikie says:

    590 Jason, my feelings exactly.

  583. dblaikie says:

    If the fisa memo is released dogs and cats will kill each other. The polar ice cap will melt in three days. The sun will darken to a blood red. The water in the great lakes will turn into a brackish sludge. China will invade Japan. Russia will invade Finland. Mexico will declare war on America. Shep Smith will become an intellectual. Mika and Joe will move to Canada And several high ranking people in the Justice Department and the FBI will be exposed. How can we let such a thing happen!!! Release the memo and lets watch the show.

  584. Tina says:

    ?
    @Breaking911
    UPDATE: FBI Director Chris Wray has no intention of quitting if controversial House Intel memo is released despite his objections – NBC

  585. Tina says:

    I mean cnn coukd not ask wrays press secretary? Had to write a bs story?

  586. Tina says:

    Natalie Andrews
    ?
    @nataliewsj
    Speaker Ryan says Dems calls to remove Nunes is “just playing politics.” Says economy is doing well and Democrats “would love nothing more than to play politics and change the subject.”

  587. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Mitchie confirms senate has its own memo.

    Has not read the house memo.

    Tick tock.

  588. mnw says:

    We have a serious troll shortage of late. Maybe if I put out some troll catnip, they’ll reappear?

    LOL !!!!!!!!!!
    Yall (sic) (h/t accountingfield)
    SAD!
    LOOSAHS!
    It’s OVAH !!!

    They love those. Cliches are a moron’s witticisms.

  589. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Memo to be released without redactions.

  590. mnw says:

    Release the gorilla already.

  591. DW says:

    MICHELLE O: ALL WE HAVE NOW IS HOPE…
    MAXINE WATERS: Russia out to get me!

    Rough times for Dems right now. Glad to have these be the face of the party.

  592. hugh says:

    I think the dems badly played their hand are about to get slapped down.

  593. Mr.Vito says:

    State of the states is out, and it is what I have been saying for two months now.

    Party affiliation in 2017 was 45-38 compared to 47-42 in 2016. Both parties lost support overall.

    So, affiliation was more democratic in 2017, but not remotely close to 2006/2008.

    All the states that moved democrat outside the MoE were either won by Hillary or won by Trump in a landslide, except Ohio with a change of 4.1, making it now R+1 instead of R+5… the loss came almost entirely from the R number… the D number did not change

    The other states moved by 3.5 or less. The average change by state was D+2.5.

    Wisconsin and Arizona were among the states that became more republican.

    The net Democratic states is +3, which was the average for 2011-2014.

    So, as I said multiple times, the race will be determined by what happens from the tax cuts on.

  594. Mr.Vito says:

    Two of the biggest movers were Colorado (9.6 shift to D+9) and Virginia (6.6 shift to D+7). They were #1 and 4.

    So Virginia does not look to be indicative of the rest of the states. Georgia shifted by 3, where the Rs won that won.

    Alabama shifted by 2 to R+15, meaning Doug Jones was almost certainly an anomaly due to Roy Moore.

  595. Mr.Vito says:

    *won that one

  596. Tina says:

    Rough times indeed.

    Guam will tip over.

  597. Mr.Vito says:

    The GOPs best opportunities for pickups if you go by PID alone in order:

    North Dakota
    Montana
    Missouri
    West Virginia
    Arizona (hold)
    Indiana
    Ohio
    Wisconsin
    Florida
    Nevada (hold)
    Pennsylvania

  598. Tina says:

    Conversation
    Frank Luntz
    Frank Luntz
    @FrankLuntz
    “In 2017, newly-registered Floridians registered as Republicans by a margin of 29% to 27% over Democrats.”

    Adding to what vito already mentioned.

  599. DW says:

    MICHELLE O: ALL WE HAVE NOW IS HOPE…

    …that all SHE might have, but we have thousands of tax dollars back in our pockets.

  600. Mr.Vito says:

    “Adding to what vito already mentioned.”

    Contextually, Florida went from D+1.1 to D+3, a lower than average change.

    Dems lost 0.5 and the GOP lost 2.4 to create that change.

    Although things soured for Rs, the Dems were not able to win people to their side.

    (I have said for a long time that gallup is stuck at about 46 D overall since August, which is not remotely close to what they need for a wave… they will have to win people over before Trump and Republicans do.)

  601. Chicon says:

    Vito, as soon as Robbie can get off the can for more than a few minutes, he’ll straighten you and DW on all this.

  602. Mr.Vito says:

    For more context…

    Iowa, Wisconsin, and Ohio were D+18 in 2008.

  603. Mr.Vito says:

    Florida and Virginia were D+9.

  604. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Mitt Romney?@MittRomney

    “Looking forward to making an announcement on February 15th about the Utah Senate race. http://www.mittromney.com

    Wonder what this is about?

  605. DW says:

    626–probably means he is in. I don’t take Romney to be someone to announce an announcement just to say no.

  606. jason says:

    Normally you don’t “look forward” to say you are not running.

  607. jason says:

    DW, great minds think alike.

  608. DW says:

    Good news in the VA senate race–Jim Gilmore will NOT run.

  609. Tina says:

    Breaking.

    Ds claimmthat nunes is a russian agent.

  610. NYCmike says:

    Mitt will also be preparing his “Republican response” to next years SOTU, as “CG” has fantasized about.

  611. NYCmike says:

    “Ds claimmthat nunes is a russian agent.”

    -Tom Clancy has NOTHING on these people!

  612. Tgca says:

    586

    Tina has a potty mouth…or Tourette’s. I’ve never heard such language in my nearly 2 decades here.

    This Jersey boy is blushing.

  613. Cash Cow TM says:

    In anticipation of the imminent release of the memo(s), I have stockpiled a week’s worth of hay with me here in the underground bunker.

    Oh, the horror bout to be unleashed….

  614. Mr.Vito says:

    Dan McLaughlin?Verified account @baseballcrank

    Dan McLaughlin Retweeted

    A fact-checking outfit hiring Alan Grayson is like a church hiring Charlie Sheen to run their youth group.

  615. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    627. “626 probably means he is in. I don’t take Romney to be someone to announce an announcement just to say no.”

    By golly, I think your probably right!

    You also don’t normally place a link to a site on which you can join the “Mitt Team” if your not running.

  616. Wes says:

    Good to see Scott is likely to challenge Nelson. Unlike McCollum, Harris (ugh!), and Mack, Scott won’t let Nelson steamroll him.

  617. Wes says:

    Twenty-four years after his unsuccessful challenge to Chappquiddick Ted, Mitt Romney will finally be a Senator–from Utah.

    Amazing.

  618. Wes says:

    At least Romney can finally get his win-loss record to even or positive since the UTDP is essntially moribund–especially since Matheson left office in 2015.

  619. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    635. “In anticipation of the imminent release of the memo(s), I have stockpiled a week’s worth of hay with me here in the underground bunker.

    Oh, the horror bout to be unleashed….”

    I won’t do you any good Cow. In a national security emergency the directive is to slaughter all cows and turn them into beef jerky. There is an exception for dairy cows that are high milk producers.

  620. Wes says:

    DW says:
    February 1, 2018 at 4:52 pm
    Good news in the VA senate race–Jim Gilmore will NOT run.

    Bad news on the same front–Corey Stewart and E. W. Jackson ARE running.

  621. Mr.Vito says:

    Pawlenty is actively considering a gubernatorial bid.

  622. DW says:

    643 – true, but at least no money gets wasted on them.

  623. DW says:

    Its a shame too…a strong candidate could take out Kaine in VA. But VA GOP is enduring hard times.

  624. DW says:

    my own congressman Scott Taylor is considering a run against Kaine.

  625. Mr.Vito says:

    Virginia is unlikely to flip without a scandal, like Warner had in 2014.

  626. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    641. “At least Romney can finally get his win-loss record to even or positive since the UTDP is essntially moribund–especially since Matheson left office in 2015.”

    The Democrats would not nominate a candidate like Matheson now. He worked in the energy industry, and was a “blue dog” democrat who voted for off-shore drilling and for barring the EPA from regulating greenhouses gases.

    At one time some of the energy producing counties in eastern Utah were overwhelmingly Democratic. In 2016 they all went for Trump.

  627. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Since he is a shoe-in, Romney needs to spend a lot of time in Nevada campaigning for Heller.

  628. NYCmike says:

    I wonder if Romney will run with Kasich, in Kasich’s independent bid, which “CG” keeps speaking about.

    Or will he be happy as 1 in a 100?

    Why doesn’t Kasich run for Senate, and then use that position to stymie Trump’s “anti-Republican-agenda”?

  629. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Breakdowns in the Monmouth Poll”

    Congressional Party vote
    Vote Democratic Dec 51%
    Vote Republican Dec 36%

    Vote Republican Now 45%
    Vote Democratic Now 47%

    Trump Legislative Record
    Successful Dec 42%
    Unsuccessful Dec 54%

    Successful Now 55%
    Unsuccessful Now 41%

  630. Tina says:

    Paula Reid
    ?
    @PaulaReidCBS
    JUST IN: Highly experienced trial attorneys for Manafort co-defendant Richard Gates, want off the case, suggesting there wont be a trial.
    2:42 PM – Feb 1, 2018

    Not sure what to make of this yet….

  631. Tina says:

    Probably means they werent being paid.

  632. Tina says:

    Gov. Mike Huckabee
    ?
    @GovMikeHuckabee
    I’m going to be on @seanhannity 2nite 9pm et on @FoxNews but will do from underground bunker in undisclosed location because I think the FBI is looking for me! I will get out of there quicker than Luis Gutierrez leaving the SOTU after hearing “USA!”
    3:26 PM – Feb 1, 2018

  633. Mr.Vito says:

    One of the 10% non-negative stories for Trump.

    http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2018/01/31/ms-13-trump/

    “Some have said she shouldn’t have gone because she is Hispanic.

    “I did not feel that at all,” she said.

    Mickens’ mother Elizabeth Alvarado said it was overwhelming.

    “Very overwhelming feeling all that love for us, what we stand for, and for my daughter, and for Kayla,” she said.

    “Not too many people get a chance to meet a president. We are both in shock about it,” Mickens’ father Robert said.

    “He kissed me on my forehead which I was like, my god I am just a little pea in a pod, but he did acknowledge and I felt his connection that he felt my pain,” Evelyn said.

    The pain of losing children to the scourge of MS-13 and the desire to make streets safe.

    “Her eyes got teary, you felt the realness, it wasn’t fake,” Rodriguez said.

    As they work on recovering, they made an appeal for unity to the community that is rallying around them.”

  634. Phil says:

    My favorite of late is the Wednesday discussion on MSNBC as to whether or not Nunes is a Russian agent.

    Yeah, seriously. They actually had that discussion.

    LMAO

  635. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    651. “I wonder if Romney will run with Kasich, in Kasich’s independent bid, which “CG” keeps speaking about.”

    Trump called Romney and encouraged him to run. Doubt he would do the same for Kasich. Trump and Romney were successful businessmen, and think alike on economic issues. Kasich has always worked in politics, and government. He comes across as a political marshmallow.

  636. Mr.Vito says:

    How many marshmallows can he stuff in his mouth during an interview?

  637. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    659. “How many marshmallows can he stuff in his mouth during an interview?”

    Looks like he just stuffed a whole bag.

    “Ohio Gov. John Kasich (R) slammed GOP attacks on the FBI and Department of Justice (DOJ) in a speech Wednesday, comparing attacks on the agencies and the press to actions of “bullies” and “autocrats.”

    “The first thing that happens when people want to be bullies and they’re autocrats or whatever it is, is that they go to restrict the press,” Kasich said, according to The Columbus Dispatch. “So, do all the complaining you want, but thank God we have the press.””

  638. NYCmike says:

    Is Kasich MD’s wife?

  639. Mr.Vito says:

    He’ll get more votes running as a Democrat.

  640. NYCmike says:

    Unfortunately, he may take enough votes from Trump, if he does run, so that a Dem will win

  641. Tina says:

    Who resticted the press?

    Kasich needs to answer this,

  642. Phil says:

    Tina just asked the relevant question. Indeed, how has the press been restricted and who exactly has done so?

    Again, Kasich – Scarborough….the MSM’s useful idiot ticket.

  643. DW says:

    Revelation 13:18

  644. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Kasich is the poster boy for a perfect milquetoast.

  645. Tina says:

    I am trying to find the poll, but 70 percent now favor trumps immigration proposals from the sotu.

    59 percent want the wall.

  646. Chicon says:

    Kasich and Robbie could be twins.

  647. Cash Cow TM says:

    Here in the bunker….

    Did the Rusians get Maxine Waters yet?
    *************************************
    if the captured her, it would be like the “Ransom of Red Chief”…

  648. Cash Cow TM says:

    “…@GovMikeHuckabee
    I’m going to be on @seanhannity 2nite 9pm et on @FoxNews but will do from underground bunker in undisclosed location because I think the FBI is looking for me! I will get out of there quicker than Luis Gutierrez leaving the SOTU after hearing “USA!”
    3:26 PM – Feb 1, 2018”
    ________________________
    Oh, just peachy….
    Now Mike Huckabee has joied me in my bunker.

    WHICH ONE OF YOU ALL TIPPED HUCKABEE OFF ABOUT MY BUNKER?

  649. MichiganGuy says:

    Or as pelosi would say “more crumbs”

  650. jason says:

    Fidel Castro’s son commits suicide.

    Let me be the first to extend sincere condolences to ProudObamaCON and PeteWilson.

  651. jason says:

    I like Kasich, but he seems to be victim of the Stockholm Syndrome.

  652. mnw says:

    “ICE Hits 77 Businesses in Northern California”

    Oh, God! Was it good for you too, baby!

  653. Tina says:

    Today is the day for release of the 4 page memo.

    Note, it is just the start and not the end of the corrupt doj practice of wiretapping illegally a Presidential campaign bynthe obumbler admin.

    The memo may not fully satisfy you, but it is a stard. Be mindful of the trollys indicating “this is it?”

  654. Tina says:

    Tweets & replies
    Media
    Likes
    Donald J. Trump’s Tweets
    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    42m
    “You had Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party try to hide the fact that they gave money to GPS Fusion to create a Dossier which was used by their allies in the Obama Administration to convince a Court misleadingly, by all accounts, to spy on the Trump Team.” Tom Fitton, JW

  655. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    The top Leadership and Investigators of the FBI and the Justice Department have politicized the sacred investigative process in favor of Democrats and against Republicans – something which would have been unthinkable just a short time ago. Rank & File are great people!
    3:33 AM · Feb 2, 2018

    A precursor of things to come in the oig report.
    Note the memo and oig report are not the same document.

  656. Tina says:

    Mslsd john hellman accuses paul ryan of being a russian spy.

  657. MichiganGuy says:

    @678 mnw, hopefully it’s just the beginning. There are millions more in Cali that need to go back home.

  658. Phil says:

    The memo has the loons unhinged. Jimmy Kimmel went on a nonstop fifteen minute rant against the memo during his monologue last night. No jokes to speak of – just pure BS about the memo being a typical Trump tactic of diverting attention from his Russian collusion as “patriot” Mueller “closes in on Trump”. In fact, he kept referring to all of them – Rosenstein, Comey, McCabe, Pete,….the whole lot of them as the “Republic’s last hope”. It was the closest thing Kimmel came to anything resembling funny. Actually, it a
    was flat out nauseating. Pathetic. The guy went on and on.

    First time (and the last time) I have seen Kimmel since he trasformed from late night comic to self proclaimed protector of America fro Trump. He makes Colbert seem like a non partisan which I thought impossible. Can only imagine Whoopi, Joy, and the gals on The View today. Someone else will have to monitor that one, however. I served my time in hell. As I said, the loons unhinged.

  659. MichiganGuy says:

    U.S. employers added a robust 200,000 jobs in January, and wages rose at the fastest pace in more than eight years, evidence of a healthy job market.

    http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Business/wireStory/us-added-200k-jobs-january-pay-years-52791573

  660. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    January Jobs’ Report Data:
    1- No. of New Jobs’ Created- 200,000
    2- Unemployment Rate- 4.1%( no change)
    3- Wage Growth- 2.9%; highest in 8 yrs.

    MAGA!!!

  661. DW says:

    687, 688 – trolls hardest hit.

  662. MichiganGuy says:

    Nonfarm payrolls grew by 200,000 in January. Economists surveyed by Reuters had been expecting jobs growth of 180,000

    https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2018/02/02/nonfarm-payrolls-jan-2018.html

  663. MichiganGuy says:

    abcnews left that out.

  664. Wobbles says:

    Those numbers hurt.

    But did I tell you about Trump’s tweet about Mika’s face?

  665. Mr.Vito says:

    So if the Dems take the house, will they forcibly remove all the Russian spies from Congress?

  666. DW says:

    BOOM

    Trump job approval – Rasmussen

    49/49

  667. DW says:

    and of course…Trolls hardest hit!

  668. Wobbles says:

    Buh, buh, buh….. Gallup…

  669. mnw says:

    MG 686

    hopefully

    one can’t live without hope

  670. jason says:

    Dang, Proud ObamaCON said Trump was “heading to the 20’s”.

    What happened?

  671. mnw says:

    DW

    RE: RAS

    That’s big & that’s new.

    Finally!

  672. mnw says:

    DW 697

    Gallup discontinued its daily presidential tracking poll some time back.

    So Wobbles won’t even have muh Gallup now.

  673. Wobbles says:

    Let me be the first to attack the internals of the Rasmussen poll.

    I think people who haven’t accepted the results of the election because their candidate lost in the primaries are grossly under-represented.

    I think people who base their entire view of Trump’s presidency on tweets are grossly under-represented.

    I think people who have no views of their own and just regurgitate leftwing media talking points are grossly under-represented.

  674. DW says:

    I am not the one who posts as ‘Wobbles’

  675. Wobbles says:

    So Wobbles won’t even have muh Gallup now”

    I will accept the poll showing the lowest approval for Trump, because it will be the most accurate.

    Thanks.

  676. Wobbie says:

    I am not Wobbles.

  677. Wobble says:

    I am not Wobbie.

  678. Poul Harris says:

    I am Poul Harris

    – Poul Harris

  679. ssq says:

    This is very confusing.

  680. mnw says:

    Some new tunes for our ICE agent friends today!

    “All of a Sudden I Saw a New Morning” (Bee Gees)

    “I Can See the Light of a Brand New Morning” (Dolly Parton)

    “There’s Got to Be a Morning After” (Maureen McGovern)

  681. Paul says:

    “The top Leadership and Investigators of the FBI and the Justice Department have politicized the sacred investigative process in favor of Democrats and against Republicans – something which would have been unthinkable just a short time ago. Rank & File are great people!”

    Aren’t the top leadership appointed by Trump? Et tu, Wray.

  682. mnw says:

    Wray has been on the job for… exactly 3 months.

    I doubt he’s had time to do much politicizing. paultroll.

  683. Paul says:

    What about Rosenstein?

  684. Paul says:

    And Sessions?

  685. BayernFan says:

    Sessions is keeping his head down, doing his job. Rosenstein is probably toast. probably. But didn’t he write the memo supporting Trump’s firing? That might save him. No one cares about Wray.

  686. Paul says:

    Yes, he wrote the memo that said Comey should be fired because Comey released the Clinton email information right before the election.

  687. Paul says:

    If Trump had stuck with the story that he fired Comey for being unfair to Clinton in his investigation, he might have not had a special prosecutor.

  688. Mr.Vito says:

    Details of memo finally released.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

  689. Waingro says:

    Josh Jordan
    ?Verified account @NumbersMuncher
    59s59 seconds ago

    Rasmussen: Trump approval hits 49-49 post State of the Union speech – his best day of approval since last June.

    The ‘strongly approve’ measure of 35% is the highest day since last March.

  690. hugh says:

    trumps impulsiveness resulted in the independent investigator at that time. it still may have happened, but much less likely. He is his own worse enemy. Still if it results in cleaning out the corruption at major agencies it may work out okay.

  691. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Fidel Castro’s oldest son commits suicide…”

    Was he protesting about something?

    –confederte statues?
    –Trump SOTU speech?
    –global warming?

  692. Cash Cow TM says:

    Or manybe THE MEMO that is going to be released had something to do with him?

  693. Paul says:

    I hear the memo has a Clinton-Obama-Castro connection.

  694. jason says:

    I blame Sessions for the special prosecutor.

    He got buffaloed by the Dems regarding his “meetings’ with the Russian ambassador, and by stupidly recusing himself he allowed Rosenstein to appoint Mueller.

    It should NEVER have happened, to me its the biggest of failures of the administration so far.

    Imagine right now without this investigation and the economy doing well.

  695. jason says:

    f Trump had stuck with the story that he fired Comey for being unfair to Clinton in his investigation, he might have not had a special prosecutor.”

    BS

    Trump did not need a reason to fire Comey. He could have said he didn’t like the color of his tie.

  696. jason says:

    The congressional investigations would still have resulted in the what we are seeing today as far as bias and partisanship in the FBI and DOJ, but without the sword of the SP hanging over Trump’s head.

  697. jason says:

    Should we take up a collection so Proud ObamaCON can go to Castro’s son’s funeral?

  698. hugh says:

    724. he didn’t need a reason. had he just fired him and kept his mouth shut he would have saved himself a lot of grief

  699. jason says:

    Remember how the tax bill was supposedly so unpopular.

    Well now its about even, as people get to see what is actually in it instead of just being bombarded with fake news.

    Of course, Obama claimed Obamacare would become popular after people “experienced” it, that never happened.

  700. jason says:

    Actually, he should have fired Comey the first day in office, he got bad advice to keep him.

  701. jason says:

    What happened to Soccer Moron?

    Maybe his parents took the basement back and cancelled his Internet service?

  702. BayernFan says:

    Is it established that RAS skews a little pro Trump?

  703. BayernFan says:

    still…..good movement shown…not surprising

  704. BayernFan says:

    After reading that Vanity Fair piece on Mooch…..seems to me that things started settling down for Trump after Reince and Bannon left.

  705. mnw says:

    Imo, the DEMs & their running dog media convinced the public that their taxes would go up under the new law. The new Monmouth poll showed 38% saying their taxes would go up, & only 24% saying they would go down.

    However, THIS is the month when johnny paycheck actually sees his paystub.

    So, my prediction is that there is still room to grow here on Trump’s handling of the economy.

  706. BayernFan says:

    memo released

  707. Bitterlaw says:

    My check was a little larger this week. It won’t get me the beach house but I am not complaining about having more money.

  708. Bitterlaw says:

    I heard that Tom Brady already has a copy of The Memo and will use it to cheat the Eagles.

  709. BayernFan says:

    Media reports formed basis of Fisa warrant request. Circular reporting.

  710. BayernFan says:

    Steele briefed media of dossier contents

  711. BayernFan says:

    without dossier warrant would have been impossible to obtain

  712. BayernFan says:

    After FBI cutoff Steele, he continued to funnel info to FBI though DOJ guy named Bruce Our.

  713. Mr.Vito says:

    hmmmm…

    Byron York
    ?Verified account @ByronYork
    9m9 minutes ago

    House Intel memo key point: The FBI’s Andrew McCabe confirmed to the committee that no FISA warrant would have been sought from the FISA Court without the Steele dossier information.

  714. BayernFan says:

    What does Trump do with Mueller? My top of the head suggestion……call on mueller to release all evidence in 10 days….or be fired.

  715. Mr.Vito says:

    Ryan Grim?Verified account @ryangrim

    Ryan Grim Retweeted Rob Pyers

    DNC is borrowing to meet payroll and pay rent, dead broke, while the RNC has $38.8 million cash on hand.

  716. mnw says:

    Vito

    Oh wow.

  717. BayernFan says:

    this explains why Richard engel and Martha raddatz made fools of themselves on election night.

  718. DW says:

    I point back to the article I linked here a couple days ago. All this corruption was boldly done because President Hillary’s regime not only wouldn’t punish them for it, they would be rewarded.

    Only one big glitch in that plan.

  719. Mr.Vito says:

    Rush is claiming the memo states that senior officials knew the political origin of the dossier and did not disclose it to the FISA judge, that Bruce Ohr had stated that Steele had a strong personal bias in seeing that Trump was not elected, and that media reports were used to give credence to the dossier before the judge (as we know Steele had shopped the highlights of the dossier to the media).

  720. Mr.Vito says:

    Interested to see if that is all correct…

  721. Cash Cow TM says:

    I have not yet read any of the Nunes Memo about to be released, but I emphatically and categorically deny most of the scurroulous charges and inuendos about Cash Cow that may be included in the memo. Most of the are outrageously false and derrogatory.

    most…

    BTW, Walt will have to releqse his own denial of anything in the memo about him.

  722. phoenixrisen says:

    Just…wow. It all makes sense. DNC and Clinton campaign, Comey, Page, Strzok, Ohr and Fusion GPS through his wife. Watergate 2.

  723. phoenixrisen says:

    No wonder the Democrats didn’t want this getting out

  724. BayernFan says:

    What did Mueller know and when did he know it?

  725. phoenixrisen says:

    #754 The Mueller probe should be dead now. No credibility him and investigation team

  726. Paul says:

    A bit underwhelming.

  727. phoenixrisen says:

    #749 Exactly. They tricked the judge to orchestrate political assassination of Trump. They are toast.

  728. DW says:

    751 – Watergate is someone getting a stolen gumball out of the machine compared to this.

  729. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Victor Davis Hanson, in his article “Hillary’s “Sure” Victory Explains Most Everything”, provides an outstanding explanation why the FBI and other government agencies worked as tools of the Clinton Cabal.

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455885/expected-clinton-victory-explains-federal-employee-wrongdoing

  730. DW says:

    reaction on RRH is mixed. Some call the memo a flop, others say stuff like this:

    The DNC creating a fake dossier that the FBI knowingly uses to spy on a Presidential campaign of the administration’s opponents sounds like a pretty big scandal to me.

    If the Bush administration used a fake report the RNC payed for to wiretap the Obama campaign how do you think people would have reacted?

  731. DW says:

    758 – that’s the one I linked here a few days ago…yep…’splains everything.

    I likened it to an episode of the BBC’s Foyle’s War where the hotel owner’s anti-semitic wife convinced him the German invasion would happen any day, and so he murdered his wife assuming he would get away with it under the cover of the chaos of the invasion. When the invasion didn’t happen, he was found out and arrested for murder.

  732. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Rumor from Bogo Pogo is a search party has been sent into the great mangrove swamp to see if they can find the real Robbie. The one who briefly posted on the board was an impostor.

  733. phoenixrisen says:

    Yup, that National Review article you linked nailed it

  734. phoenixrisen says:

    Regarding Watergate, the similarities are there though it is as correctly stated by you, on a much bigger magnitude

  735. DW says:

    I recall in the days after the election we learned that Hillary had been hitting the bottle pretty hard and was a mess–which is why her speech was delayed.

    Now we can logically conclude that she probably wasn’t the only one hitting the bottle.

  736. phoenixrisen says:

    The Dems are toast this November. Pelosi and Schumer should be gone. If the Dems were smart they would overhaul their entire Congressional and DNC leadership and start from scratch

  737. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    731. “Is it established that RAS skews a little pro Trump?”

    That was claimed in 2016, but the fact Trump won raises some doubt on that claim.

  738. jason says:

    If this is all true it definitely shows not only bias but several illegalities too.

    And it stinks to high heaven.

  739. DW says:

    Another way to put all this, the Obama-Hillary-DNC cabal weaponized the FBI to secure a continuance of their power.

    Yeah. That’s a YUGE scandal.

  740. phoenixrisen says:

    The GOP has to ensure recruitment of top-tier Senate candidates to maximize seat gain probability.

  741. Trump says:

    The coup is over. They are going to jail. We have overcome.

  742. DW says:

    Drudge headline DISGRACE

    Links…

    Trump attacks integrity of FBI and Justice Dept…
    ‘Politicized’ probe in favor of Dems…
    ‘Lot of people should be ashamed’…
    MEMO RELEASED… DEVELOPING…
    Spy Warrant Relied On Dossier…
    DETAILS, DETAILS…
    READ IT…

  743. jason says:

    “After porn star Stormy Daniels sat down with Jimmy Kimmel, she canceled a scheduled appearance on ‘The View’ and says she is not giving any more interviews.”

    Evidently she released another letter saying that not only was there no affair, there was no payment.

    Corey hardest hit.

    I am sure he can go back into the trash bin to find something else.

  744. phoenixrisen says:

    Big time political opportunity here just like in 2010 and 2014

  745. Trump says:

    Dow is dropping as our criminalized government is shaken to its knees.

  746. Paul says:

    Stormy wants to live for another day.

  747. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The movie Patton had Rommel stating that he was going to destroy Patton, before Patton destroyed him.

    This has been a political death match. one of the combatants was going down; amazingly Trump has had the fortitude and determination to hold out, and he may now prevail. It just shows what a broken reed the Democrat old guard establishment has become.

    This is looking a lot like how Reagan was able to overpower the Democratic establishment in the 1980s. He went into the headwind, have a period of unpopularity, but eventually moved popular opinion in his direction.

  748. Trump says:

    Video of Hillary as the memo is released.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DToj3xM2b1E

  749. Mr.Vito says:

    The Dow is dropping due primarily to a rise in interest rates.

  750. Phil says:

    Memo must really been damning. Even poster Trump has shown up today after weeks of absence.

  751. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Memo is out.

  752. jason says:

    We have the view of one moonbat.

    “A bit underwhelming”

  753. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump tweets — economy is booming and Mueller investigation is tainted by Democrats.
    _____________

    Donald J. Trump
    “With 3.5 million Americans receiving bonuses or other benefits from their employers as a result of TAX CUTS, 2018 is off to great start!
    ?Unemployment rate at 4.1%.
    ?Average earnings up 2.9% in the last year.
    ?200,000 new American jobs.
    ?#MAGA??Donald J. Trump added,
    @AP BREAKING: US employers added 200,000 jobs in January, paychecks rose at fastest pace in 8 years.
    ?
    @realDonaldTrump

    “You had Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party try to hide the fact that they gave money to GPS Fusion to create a Dossier which was used by their allies in the Obama Administration to convince a Court misleadingly, by all accounts, to spy on the Trump Team.” Tom Fitton,

  754. jason says:

    The MSM is doing what it can…

    “Disputed memo out”

    “Partisan memo out”

    “Over strenuous objections of FBI”

  755. jason says:

    It would truly be fitting if this Dem witchhunt turned around and bit them in the ass.

  756. NYCmike says:

    “CG” should be here shortly to remind us all that Mueller is actually a Saint, so he must be honored and allowed to continue his very tough work.

    And also to ask us to donate to the Kasich 2020 campaign…..

  757. jason says:

    Let’s see if the Jebbots Corey and Wobbie are outraged at the FBI being used as a partisan weapon.

  758. Mr.Vito says:

    Just watched nevertrump Ben Shapiro, who has been very skeptical of the memo, read it in its entirety.

    He said it is indeed a bombshell if the memo is unchallenged.

    He also said it ls clear that the idea that its release was somehow a danger to national security was bogus.

  759. Trump says:

    Wobbie. Wobbie. Where are thou Wobbie.

  760. Mr.Vito says:

    Note tere is no indictment of Mueller or his investigstion in the memo…

    It only details FISA abuse.

  761. DW says:

    CNN: Nothing of substance in the memo, information already known.

    MSNBC: Memo proves Trump’s wrongdoing, Democrats should call for impeachment.

    ABC: Clinton and Democrats exonerated by memo.

  762. Phil says:

    but but but the crusader for all that is good in the world, jimmy Kemmel, assured us all last night that everyone would “see through the memo once it came out and it would be obvious to all it was nothing but a Trump diversion of the real story – Trump collusion with the Russians!”

    Let’s reserve all judgement until, Kimmel, Colbert, Joy Baher, Maddow, and all the other nonpartisan giants have a chance to study it. Only then will we know for sure what it all means.

  763. DW says:

    I made up the headlines in 790, but given how believable they sound says a lot about the media.

  764. DW says:

    Updated Generic Congressional Ballot from Ipsos/reuters

    Dem 40
    GOP 36

    Trolls taking a beating.

  765. BayernFan says:

    Ann Navarro is certifiable

  766. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Great blog comment: “The Schiff hit the fan”

  767. Phil says:

    794

    Amen to that.

  768. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    How did this clueless loon get to head the FBI? And at a critical period of time too. He seems to not understand that the conduct of certain FBI leadership destroyed the trust of the American people.

    James Comey
    @Comey
    “That’s it? Dishonest and misleading memo wrecked the House intel committee, destroyed trust with Intelligence Community, damaged relationship with FISA court, and inexcusably exposed classified investigation of an American citizen. For what? DOJ & FBI must keep doing their jobs.”

  769. Mr.Vito says:

    Sessions: “Congress has made inquiries concerning an issue of great importance for the country and concerns have been raised about the department’s performance. I have great confidence in the men and women of this Department. But no department is perfect…

    Accordingly, I will forward to appropriate DOJ components all information I receive from Congress regarding this. I am determined that we will fully and fairly ascertain the truth…”

  770. Wobbles says:

    I hereth at Bogo Pogoth

  771. jason says:

    Pelosi calls memo “fake”.

  772. Mr.Vito says:

    Katy Tur had to delete a tweet that pushed the debunked idea that the “…Steele Dossier was first paid for by conservative outlet Washington Free Beacon…”

  773. jason says:

    Yep, that is an outright lie.

  774. jason says:

    The MSM is beside itself.

    The Russian collusion BS was their last hope and they can’t afford to see it go down the toilet.

  775. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Nate Cohn in a NYT column is heading for the lifeboat.

    “Last month it seemed that Democrats might ride a giant tsunami to control of the House and Senate. Now, some are wondering whether there’s a Democratic wave at all.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/02/upshot/polls-midterm-election-republicans-democrats.html

  776. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    799. “I hereth at Bogo Pogoth”

    The bongo drums doeth not lie. The savages are on the attack.

  777. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    http://nationalinterest.org/feature/dont-ignore-kushners-quiet-mideast-gains-24256

    A Jewish boy and Saudi boy prince in their 30s negotiating the future of the Midwest. Don’t they realize that diplomatic discussions can be done by senior citizens in their 70s and 80s?

  778. Wes says:

    SDC, rarely is there a wave for either party in a first President’s first midterm. Republicans enjoyed them in 1994 and 2010 respectively because of gross overreach by incumbent Dem Presidents with lopsided Dem majorities in both houses of Congress, but Dems failed spectacularly to achieve once in 2002 partly because of engaging in the antics they’re currently employing against Trump.

    For the out-of-power party to achieve a wave in a first midterm, there has to be a solid reason for it as in the cases of Ben Harrison, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama.

    There is no unpopular war going on currently while, despite Trump’s petty tweets against everyone with even a mild criticism of him, the significant economic improvement over the past year combined with the apparent early success of GOP-sponsored tax reform has allayed charges of do-nothing GOP governance of the nation.

    Meanwhile, Dems are becoming more and more irrational and outlandish in their infantile personal attacks on the President while their Senators have opened themselves up to charges of partisan obstructionism levied by GOP challengers.

    As such, despite Robbie’s salivating hope for Dems to enjoy a Krakatoa-style tsunami against the GOP this year to punish the Republicans for their refusal to nominate JEB! for President in 2016, I see infinitely less chance of a Dem wave in nine months than existed at the end of 2017.

  779. DW says:

    807—in short, Its the Economy! What can the dems run on? “Vote for me so I can end your low-tax suffering! Vote for me so you see your job go back to China! Vote for me so you can see your 401k value get decimated!”

    That might work in the urban districts that go 80/20 for Ds anyway, but it won’t work in the suburbs or anywhere else.

  780. Wes says:

    Exactly, DW. Dems have little if anything to run on. While their rabid partisans are energized against Trump, no one else is, even as the middle seems to be warming somewhat to him. That’s not a good thing for the party that just a few months ago was salivating as Robbie was about destroying the national GOP in the midterms.

  781. DW says:

    Furthermore, I have no idea what the GOP did right that God should bless it with the ongoing fact that Nancy Pelosi continues to be the face of the Democrat Party.

  782. mnw says:

    My 2018 concern:

    VA (& to a lesser extent AL) seemed to demonstrate that the “new” Trump voters don’t turn out very well for Republican candidates not named Trump.

  783. Wes says:

    That’s a legitimate concern, but VA was a Trump-hating state already while in AL Republicans ran Roy Moore.

    There was more to both elections than the Trumpkins.

  784. DW says:

    811 – fair point. It may be up to Trump to education his supporters that he cannot get done the agenda they want him to if Nancy holds the gavel.

  785. Chicon says:

    811 – Moore is a special case, imo, but I think the Republican base and Trump voters were not happy with congressional Republicans prior to the tax deal. Should be interesting to follow.

  786. Trump says:

    I am afraid the memo is kind of a nothin burger. I was hoping for something new. It is kind of all the same stuff restated.

  787. jason says:

    Trump sounds like Paul…. troll alert.

  788. jason says:

    Paul says:
    February 2, 2018 at 1:28 pm

    Stormy wants to live for another day.”

    No, she want a lot of publicity and she got it.

    Mission accomplished.

  789. DW says:

    Of course the media will say its nothing. But if the facts and information was all the same, just the party id reversed, they would be wall-to-wall coverage on this demanding arrests and prosecutions.

  790. Chicon says:

    DW – most important to me is this…

    If it isn’t a big deal, why have so many people in the FBI/DOJ been retired, reassigned or fired?

  791. Paul says:

    DW: So if an organization working to find Opposition Research on H. Clinton came upon something that was particularly concerning or nefarious, shouldn’t they pass it on to the FBI or proper authorities? I would be fine with that.

  792. hugh says:

    I would too, if they disclosed it to the courts and were able to obtain a warrant, but that is not what happened is it?

  793. Paul says:

    How is that not what happened?

  794. Paul says:

    I understand that the FBI is saying that there were additional evidence and corroboration along with the Dossier that were enough to warrant the surveillance. Now we’ll see if that is the case of if something improper happened. If something improper took place that will certainly be the FBI’s problem. But I don’t see how any of that would be the Clinton campaign’s fault. RIght?

  795. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    820. Paul, your not only scrapping bottom, but are now burrowing into the sea floor.

    Campaign opposition research is inherently bias, and needs to be verified with independent research. The dossier should not have been used at all. Independent evidence was needed. Using the dossier, and not even revealing its source is appalling. As is the evidence that certain FBI officials were also bias, and attempting to influence the election.

    This is a MAJOR SCANDAL — an agency of the federal government helping a political campaign. As Victor David Hanson said, the reason they did it is they through Trump would win and they would never get caught.

  796. Chicon says:

    822, be more specific.

  797. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    823. “I understand that the FBI is saying that there were additional evidence and corroboration along with the Dossier that were enough to warrant the surveillance.”

    So you seem to be saying that partially misleading the judge is OK, if there is a kernel of true in the heap of lies and non-disclosure.

    Here is what McCabe said according to the memo. It should be noted that McCabe was recently fired.

    “In December 2017, the Republican memo said, Andrew G. McCabe, then the deputy director of the F.B.I., told the House Intelligence Committee that no surveillance would have been sought without Mr. Steele’s information.”

  798. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It does appear that McCabe had a reason to look kindly upon the Hillary Clinton, whose campaign he was supposedly investigating.

    “McCabe is the Deputy Director of the FBI whose wife received $700,000 from Clinton allies & who recused himself from the Clinton investigation one week prior to the 2016 election.”

    Tell me Paul this isn’t sleazy.

  799. jason says:

    Imagine if something like this has been discovered to derail the Obama campaign.

    Imagine if there were people in the FBI caught on tape saying “we can’t let this Obama guy get elected”.

    Paul would have been up in arms.

    But he is just a little hypocritical moonbat turd.

  800. mnw says:

    Lemme explain The Memo by analogy to something much more familiar & routine:

    A prosecutor applies for a search warrant in an everyday drug investigation. The probable cause is based on a statement made by a confidential informant (CI)—something the snitch told the police. After stating that “the CI has been reliable in the past” & “consensual telephone call recordings corroborate what the CI’s statement in part”, you will routinely see THIS kind of language:

    “the CI hopes for consideration when he is sentenced for his own conviction” & “the CI has 3 prior convictions for felony drug offenses.”

    If a prosecutor DOESN’T disclose the adverse info about the CI, then the prosecutor has failed in her duty to be candid with the court.

    Got it? EVERY prosecutor with any experience KNOWS that!

    In applying for the FISA warrant in question, the FBI was not fully candid with the court, assuming The Memo is accurate. This is sometimes called “lying by omission.”

  801. Marco Rubio says:

    Fwiends,

    I fully thupport releasing the important memo!

  802. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    829. As another example, rancher Cliven Bundy is now a free man because the federal court found that the federal prosecutor had withheld evidence:

    “Navarro found that the prosecution had committed “flagrant misconduct” by withholding evidence that could have supported the defendants’ case. Namely, Navarro explained that federal prosecutors had failed to disclose information from cameras recording video from the standoff and the presence of federal snipers around the Bundy Ranch.

    Navarro ruled that as a result, the men, who had been slapped with felony conspiracy and firearms charges, could not receive a fair trial. She dismissed the charges “with prejudice,” which specifically bars the possibility of bringing a new trial against them.”

  803. Tina says:

    BReaking

    Senate Judiciary to release its own memo.

  804. Tina says:

    House Republican to seek treason charges against comedy, mccabe, sjw yates, etc.

  805. Tina says:

    This is alarming.

    Fbi fires steele. Next day, doj contacts steele and continues to use him.

    Wth?

  806. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Mccabe confirms that without dossier, no fisa warrant.

    He is on tape and there is a transcript, per gop official.

    The on tape would appear to me that this part is from the ig office.

  807. Mr.Vito says:

    Wolf Blitzer has found more disturbing evidence of Russian collusion…

    https://triviahappy.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/wolfonjeopardy.jpg

  808. Tina says:

    Nunes just fired the shot heard round the world.

    This is the beginning, not the end,

  809. Tina says:

    Comedy should lawyah up.

    Right to remain silent.

    Yes, that is it, silent.

  810. mnw says:

    Trump will endorse Heller in the NV GOP Sen primary, per RRH.

  811. MichiganGuy says:

    Here Are The 7 Biggest Bombshells In The House Intel Memo On FISA Abuses

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/02/02/the-7-biggest-bombshells-in-the-house-intel-memo-on-fisa-abuses/

  812. Tina says:

    h
    First Year Job Performance
    Bush – 1,000,000
    Obama -5,000,000
    Trump +2,000,000
    that’s the only way to have honest comparison

    Charles Payne

  813. Tina says:

    Lets see, maybe the tapped my wires quote frim trump,mthat sent rottie the trolley into a fit, was right?

  814. Tina says:

    So, is it a crime if one fbi official lied to the fisa court.

    I mean they got flynn the same way.

  815. Tina says:

    Conversation
    Luke Rosiak
    Luke Rosiak
    @lukerosiak
    Judiciary Committee member: Ohr, Comey Could Be Held In Contempt Of Court For Misrepresentations To FISA Judge

    An arrst woukd be better, perp walk.

  816. NYCmike says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wtr-tbnOZUg

    -Here is video of the Democrats in 2016, leading up to the night of the election……and then…..

  817. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    839. “Trump will endorse Heller in the NV GOP Sen primary, per RRH.”

    Ideally, a joint appearance of Trump and Romney with Heller in Nevada would be good.

  818. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    835. “Mccabe confirms that without dossier, no fisa warrant. He is on tape and there is a transcript, per gop official.”

    Believe its part of his congressional testimony, so it should be on tape — likely video too.

  819. Tina says:

    Or Ig testimony. The memo was put together from several sources.

  820. MichiganGuy says:

    The DNC is reportedly ‘dead broke.’ The RNC has nearly $40 million.

    http://theweek.com/speedreads/752743/dnc-reportedly-dead-broke-rnc-nearly-40-million
    .
    #MAGA #WINNING

  821. Mr.Vito says:

    “Here is video of the Democrats in 2016, leading up to the night of the election……and then…”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHBQ4IdadbY

  822. Tina says:

    Alex Behzade
    Alex Behzade
    @ABPatriotWriter
    ·
    27m
    4) In United States v. Leon, the Supreme Court stated that if there is any false or misleading information in a warrant, then the warrant is quashed and all evidence procured from it would be suppressed. Misleading the judge about the source of the Dossier counts as that

    Tick, tock..

  823. Bitterlaw says:

    People who hate Trump think the memo is filled with lies and hurts Trump.

    People who love Trump think the memo is 200% accurate and makes the world a better place.

  824. BayernFan says:

    way to minimize the important issue revealed.

  825. Tina says:

    Baloney, bl.

  826. lisab says:

    Misleading the judge about the source of the Dossier counts as that
    ———————-

    it is also contempt of court

  827. Bitterlaw says:

    Really, Tina. I doubt that you would find a single word in the memo to be untrue. Dems would find nothing to be true or completely distorted.

    Are you going to deny that? It seems like that is how it is playing out here and in the rest of the country.

  828. Tina says:

    Playing out.

    Yup right.

  829. Tina says:

    Its the poisoned fruit or whatever they call it.

    302 questionabke by pete the cheat,

    Dossier knowingly false.

    Muellers work down the drain

  830. Tina says:

    Evan McMullin
    Evan McMullin
    @Evan_McMullin
    The inclusion of the dossier in FISA applications may represent an unprecedented collision of opposition research and national security, but remember: the cause of that was a presidential candidate’s likely collaboration with the very foreign adversary attacking our democracy.
    12:57 PM · Feb 2, 2018

    How did your meeting with aq go in libya again?

  831. MichiganGuy says:

    Flynn plea deal delayed as there’s evidence FBI agents fabricated the 302s (notes summarizing witness interviews) in Flynn investigation. IG Report will reveal fabrication of other 302s, at the direction of Comey and others within DOJ.

    #MemoDay was a warm-up.

    https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/959593766054019072

  832. Chicon says:

    Tina, was Evan talking about Hillary’s collaboration with the Russians through Fusion GPS?

  833. MichiganGuy says:

    LarrySabato’s Crystal Ball House Ratings:

    Republicans 221
    Democrats 195
    Toss-Ups 19

    http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/
    ————————————————————————————————————–
    Liberal Sabato not confident that dems can take the house. wow

  834. jason says:

    So what do you think Bitter?

    It seems like there is plenty of evidence the FBI and DOJ were engaged in partisan type politics at best and something more sinister at worst.

  835. Chicon says:

    860 – his accuracy is near Steele’s. Any other sources saying the same thing?

  836. jason says:

    However, I don’t think Mueller cares what details caused him to be appointed.

  837. jason says:

    Bitter is right that this is just one more polarizing event.

    The MSM and the Dems don’t care about anything except getting rid of Trump, the ends justify the means. And they have their allies among the never Trumpers, who should at least be interested in the rule of law.

    And on the other side there are those that think Trump walks on water and those that think he is not getting a fair shake.

  838. Bitterlaw says:

    So what do you think Bitter? It seems like there is plenty of evidence the FBI and DOJ were engaged in partisan type politics at best and something more sinister at worst.

    I am still holding judgment. It does appear likely that certain individuals in the FBI and DOJ were partisan. That does not mean that the entire FBI and DOJ are partisan.

  839. BayernFan says:

    no one says they are

  840. MichiganGuy says:

    BL, you know nobody is saying the entire fbi or doj is partisan. Nice try with your pathetic lawyer trick.

  841. Ron N says:

    If 860 is true I just don’t understand how any of this continues. That’s the end of everything should be shut down.

  842. Bitterlaw says:

    MG – You are a biased ridiculous joke. The only difference between you and Robbie is your over-the-top love of Trump.

  843. Paul says:

    I can see that there may have been some improper actions by some in the FBI. That is yet to be made completely clear. However, I don’t see anything that would involve the Clinton candidacy.

  844. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    February 2, 2018 at 10:09 pm

    MG – You are a biased ridiculous joke.
    —————————————————————————————————————
    wow, ty BL, I just scored a ton of points!
    As usual BL likes to lie about me (over-the-top love of Trump). I will state this again for the 100th time. As everyone here knows; I didn’t support Trump in the primary. I voted for Trump in the general for the same reason you did BL.He was a better choice than Hillary. Yes, I have been pleasantly surprised that he has been governing in a very conservative way. I think most in here would agree he has done a great job with the economy, letting the military do it’s job and destroy isis, appointing conservative judges… That doesn’t mean I approve of everything he does nor does it mean that I think he is a true conservative. I realize that if, the dems were in control of congress he would support their liberal agenda. I will say this again. President Trump is a useful tool no more, no less.

  845. NYCmike says:

    “That does not mean that the entire FBI and DOJ are partisan.”

    -Maybe if you could show…..say…..ONE EXAMPLE of someone castigating the “entire FBI and DOJ”
    you would have a reason to make such a statement, as opposed to some lawyer b*llsh*t you are peddling.

  846. BayernFan says:

    BL is a good guy…..but he LOVES setting up and knocking down straw men!! Lol

  847. NYCmike says:

    “I realize that if, the dems were in control of congress he would support their liberal agenda.”

    -I don’t believe this for a second.

    Trump would definitely have made deals, but they would have looked very similar to deals made by other Republican Presidents in the past with a Dem Congress.

  848. NYCmike says:

    “BL is a good guy”

    -Who said he wasn’t?

  849. Tina says:

    There are wha5 30,000 fbi?

    10 or so are sheot.

    Those 10 had leadership ormsenior positions.

    Picture ohr the top 4 position in the unjustice dept?

    Picture comedy, 1partisan hack in fbi.

    Pete thr cheat, the top counterintelligence agent.

    Nobody is saying or has ssaid the entire fbi is sheot.

  850. MichiganGuy says:

    “I don’t believe this for a second.” Really NYCmike, Trump contributed to liberal dems for decades. The only reason Trump became a Republican was to be President. His children couldn’t even vote for him in the primary because, they are all liberal dems. 😉

  851. Tina says:

    Brian Stelter
    Brian Stelter
    @brianstelter
    Nunes says “stay tuned:”

    @BretBaier asked him, Are there other memos that will come out?

    “Yes, this completes just the FISA abuse portion of our investigation. We are in the middle of what I call phase 2 of our investigation,” involving the State Dept.

    Boom, more memos.

    But, but, muh russia is real.

  852. lisab says:

    There are wha5 30,000 fbi?

    10 or so are sheot.
    —————————

    a bit more than 10

    they were running murder incorporated out of the boston office

  853. lisab says:

    trump is my kind of republican 🙂

    socially liberal, stays out of wars — so far at least, and lowers taxes

    what is not to like?

  854. lisab says:

    as i said before …

    the tax cut is still WONDERFUL!

  855. Cash Cow TM says:

    Is it safe for me to come out of my underground bunker yet?

    I need to get out.
    ###########################################
    Mike Huckabee is driving me crazy down here.

  856. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    872. “I can see that there may have been some improper actions by some in the FBI. That is yet to be made completely clear. However, I don’t see anything that would involve the Clinton candidacy.”

    +The Clinton campaign paid for the dossier;

    +FBI McCabe’s wife received several hundred thousand from the Clinton Foundation, while her husband was in charge of investigating Hillary;

    The FBI communications revealed so far had the FBI talking about how important it was that Clinton was elected, and that they had what amounted to an “insurance policy” to make it happen.

    Although there has not been any inquiry into it; think you can say the relationship between the FBI and Clinton campaign was certainly “chummy.”

  857. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    884. “Is it safe for me to come out of my underground bunker yet?

    I need to get out.
    ###########################################
    Mike Huckabee is driving me crazy down here.”

    A cow and Mike Huckabee in the same bunker, is there any room for air?

  858. Paul says:

    I think you are safer outside the bunker. Mike will get hungry before long.

  859. Redmen4ever says:

    Trump at net zero in job approval in Raz poll. With Putin’s ability to hack robo-callers, we should only rely on live-caller polls having at least 50 percent of their connections by cell phone.

  860. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    February 2, 2018 at 10:09 pm
    MG – You are a biased ridiculous joke. The only difference between you and Robbie is your over-the-top love of Trump.

    I disagree, Bitter. The only difference between Elmer Gantry and Robbie is the former’s seething desire to establish an American theocracy.

  861. Wes says:

    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/02/joe-arpaio-senate-campaign-2018-profile-216922

    Steve Bannon must be conflicted. He has not one but two looney toons to choose from in Arizona. Thankfully the non-psychotic vote has only one candidate to choose.

  862. MichiganGuy says:

    Wes, you know what they say about people who live in glass houses? Did you finally give up your womanizing ways and do the right thing and marry your ex stripper girlfriend who you knocked up or did you abandoned her and the baby so, you could move on to your next conquest? Zing!

  863. Cash Cow TM says:

    Now Huckabee is starting to eat my hay supply here in the bunker.

  864. Cash Cow TM says:

    Now Huckabee is starting to eat my hay supply here in the bunker.

  865. mnw says:

    MG

    RE: Sabato

    Looks like the DEMs would have to run the table, for sure. That COULD happen in a wave, but Wes pointed out some factors that are not conducive to a wave: no unpopular war; no breadlines, etc.

  866. mnw says:

    Tina

    VDH on The Memo:

    “If this is not a scandal, then the following protocols are now considered permissible in American electoral practice and constitutional jurisprudence: An incumbent administration can freely use the FBI and the DOJ to favor one side in a presidential election, by buying its opposition research against the other candidate, using its prestige to authenticate such a third-party oppositional dossier, and then using it to obtain court-ordered wiretaps on American citizens employed by a candidate’s campaign— and do so by deliberately misleading the court about the origins and authors of the dossier that was used to obtain the warrants.”

  867. mnw says:

    If I make it to heaven, I hope the good Lord will bestow on me the ability to write with that kind of diamond-point clarity.

  868. DW says:

    895 – Had the year been 2008, the outgoing POTUS GW Bush, whose FBI appointments did that to sabotage the Obama campaign in favor of McCain, the media would a collective lynch mob calling for the heads of those involved.

  869. Hugh says:

    Hard to believe the weird positions of the msm. They are losing credibility every day with people not hard left or hard right. I think they are setting the dems up for failure in November.

  870. MichiganGuy says:

    #894 mnw,the dems aren’t in a good position. The economy is doing great and I don’t see that changing before the election. People will see bigger paychecks thanks to Tax Cuts which the dems didn’t support. No longer do we have to pay a tax penalty for not buying insurance. That should make the young single people who are healthy and don’t feel they need insurance happy. Also, the dnc is broke and the RNC has $40 million on hand. All in all Republicans are looking good.

  871. mnw says:

    MG

    Well, if you add up the war chests of AFFILIATED groups, the financial playing field looks about level.

    PA-18 fascinates me. Will the DEMs go total-Ossoff & throw in another $6 million? I hope, and assume, the GOP is taking nothing for granted there, & fighting as if they’re down one run in the bottom of the ninth.

  872. NYCmike says:

    “Really NYCmike, Trump contributed to liberal dems for decades. The only reason Trump became a Republican was to be President. His children couldn’t even vote for him in the primary because, they are all liberal dems. ?”

    -Not sure if you are kidding around or not, but the last year has shown this to be bunk (about Trump, anyway. I can’t speak for the kids).

    Of course Trump would have made deals with the Dems if they had Congress, but it would not have been their liberal agenda. He would have made similar deals like other Republican Presidents of the past 50 years had made…….you know, death by a thousand cuts type of agenda…….ok, ok, a liberal agenda stretched out over decades, instead of instant liberal gratification of equality, LIKE IN VENEZUELA!

  873. Hugh says:

    Keep in mind political parties pay less for ads on tv than special interest groups.

  874. mnw says:

    There is a new Selzer Iowa poll coming out tonight. I’m not clear how much of it (if any) will measure Trump’s popularity or the generic.

    Ann Selzer is almost universally regarded as the best pollster in America.

  875. MichiganGuy says:

    mnw, the dnc raises money and then gives it to the state democratic parties; which they use to make sure their supporters get to the polls to vote. The more money the RNC has over the dnc will help us have a better ground game for election day.

  876. NYCmike says:

    Is she related to Al K Selzer?

  877. MichiganGuy says:

    NYCmike, it’s not bunk. Trump just offered amnesty to 1.8 million illegal immigrant dreamers, nearly tripling the Obama-era DACA program at the SOTU. This is with Republican control of Congress. It’s not hard to imagine what Trump would agree to if, democrats controlled Congress.

  878. NYCmike says:

    MG,

    I have my issues with that proposal, but I also see a proposal which includes items that have not been on the table, and should be included in a deal.

    Let’s see what the Democrats do next, and then I will re-evaluate.

    Also, for the record, since Reagan made a certain deal back in the ’80’s, I do NOT have much faith in Republicans who try to change our immigration system. Reality bites when the Chamber of Commerce wants something which is the opposite of what voters want.

  879. NYCmike says:

    MG,

    Also, does public relations/narrative mean anything to you?

    Schumer was blamed for the shutdown. Trump made a fool out of him, but THEN Trump modified his position to more of a Democrat position (again, which I don’t particularly agree with).

    BUT, with negotiations coming up shortly, for a CR, for DACA, for immigration reform, Trump (and Republicans) have made a change in their position, while the Democrats have NOT. And it is a change that is easily communicated to voters, who are the ones that count. The media will do their best to paint the REpublicans as evil, obstinate, etc., but that will be hard when they can show changes they made.

    Let the battle play out, stop being so Author-Robbie-“CG”-like, keep your emotions in check.

  880. Tina says:

    Thanks, mnw.

    More will come out, contrary to comedys thats it remark.

    Comedy needs to lawyer up.

  881. Tina says:

    He softened his position on illegals.

    80 percent now like hismpositions, which includes the wall

    59 percent like the wall alone.

    Pretty good bounce in rasmussen.

    On his way to re election, but way early.

  882. NYCmike says:

    Tina,

    He did. And it is early for him.

    BUT, if it helps the Republicans in 2018, it will have been worth it, IF the other items are included in any immigration bill.

  883. Tina says:

    The grassley memo is next.

    They will be hit with memo after memo, then release of all back up docs.

    To date, novody has refuted the claims.

  884. MichiganGuy says:

    “Let the battle play out, stop being so Author-Robbie-“CG”-like, keep your emotions in check.”
    ————————————————————————————————————–
    NYCmike, GFY My emotions are always in check. I still support Trump. I’m merely pointing out that Trump is not a true conservative. I believe the main reason Trump wanted to be President was to eliminate as many regulations he could and to cut the corporate tax.

  885. Tina says:

    Yup nycmike, those are the polling numbers post sotu.

  886. NYCmike says:

    “NYCmike, GFY”

    -For science, I have tried.

    It didn’t work, thankfully!

    Have a nice day!
    GOD love ya!

  887. NYCmike says:

    ” I still support Trump. I’m merely pointing out that Trump is not a true conservative. ”

    -Nobody I know on HHR ever claimed Trump was a “true conservative”.

    So please don’t use that now to justify your own statement saying ““I realize that if, the dems were in control of congress he would support their liberal agenda.””

  888. Tina says:

    Gregg Jarrett
    ?
    @GreggJarrett
    A 2nd source has now confirmed to me that, in a meeting on January 10, Deputy A-G Rosenstein used the power of his office to threaten to subpoena the calls & texts of the Intel Committee to get it to stop it’s investigation of DOJ and FBI. Likely an Abuse of Power & Obstruction.
    8:21 AM – Feb 3, 2018

    I have mixed opinion on swampstein

  889. Tina says:

    Many here claimed that the bushes were/are true conservstives.

    Jennifer rubin and the whale navarro also claim to be true conservatives

  890. mnw says:

    Tina

    Glad that it pleases you that Trump is “liberal on social issues.” National Right to Life is ecstatic too! Best president ever, from their viewpoint.

  891. mnw says:

    I am one of those who always keeps in touch with old friends, including those from 50 years ago.

    I’ve observed a curious phenomenon: Friends who have given up, & just let time solve all their problems now, HATE Trump. Whereas friends who are happily married (unlike me) and are making it professionally LIKE Trump.

    Huh.

  892. lisab says:

    80 percent now like hismpositions, which includes the wall
    —————————————

    people tend to like those who give them money

    starting this week people got bigger paychecks

  893. Tina says:

    Lisab, the tax cut bill was huge for the rs.

    However, the rs, as a whole, excluding mcamnesty and kasich, have acted more unified. I cited the examples of what they are doing about the dossier, fbi, doj scandal.

    While it leads to the top of the former administration, the rs are smartly doing a bottom top approach. They are unified and scoring points.

  894. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes, you know what they say about people who live in glass houses? Did you finally give up your womanizing ways and do the right thing and marry your ex stripper girlfriend who you knocked up or did you abandoned her and the baby so, you could move on to your next conquest? Zing!

    I have my issues with MG but that was a top notch, old style Hedgehog bitch slap. Well done.

  895. Tina says:

    Katica
    @GOPPollAnalyst
    Replying to @realDonaldTrump
    2016 Obama: I guarantee there is no political influence in any investigation conducted by the Justice Dept. or the FBI. Full stop. Period.

    2018: Both agencies under investigation for exactly that.

    Yikes, another lie. Keep your doctor, keep your plan. Premiums wont rise. You are covered for this, but not telling people you have an 8,000 deductible.

  896. Bitterlaw says:

    -Nobody I know on HHR ever claimed Trump was a “true conservative”.

    Have you already forgotten JC and Albert Hodges?

  897. Tina says:

    Well his first year in office rivals reagan, or maybe in some regards better than reagan.

    He has been very conservative regaring the taxes and the biggest reduction in regulations.

  898. mnw says:

    Zero was to lying what the Champagne region is to wine.

  899. Tina says:

    Does obama want to explain why comedy drafted an exoneration letter on hillary before the investigation even was completed?

    Does obama wish to explain the illegal wiretaps?

  900. lisab says:

    this tax cut was the biggest mistake the dems have made this year …

    first, by allowing it, and not doing everything they could to get trump mired longer in immigration or something else

    and

    second by telling people it was meaningless, when they can see their paychecks going up significantly

  901. lisab says:

    “Glad that it pleases you that Trump is “liberal on social issues.”

    i would be pretty unhappy even with the tax cut otherwise …

    as it is … woohoo! extra money! i bought a car!

  902. lisab says:

    Does obama wish to explain the illegal wiretaps?
    ———————————

    if obama was really smart, he would come out and bury these people …

    “i condemn anyone in the fbi who worked to undermine democracy, etc.”

    it would save his legacy, destroy the clintons, save his cronies and allow the dems to go after scapegoats and continue acting like they are morally superior people

    but unless obama himself does it, this will linger for years and tarnish everyone

  903. lisab says:

    However, the rs, as a whole, excluding mcamnesty and kasich, have acted more unified.
    ————————————–

    other than the tax cut

    the bigger issue which people are not aware of yet, is that behinds the scenes, under all this drama, agencies are quietly doing their work under trump’s rules

    specifically getting rid of regulations …

    you don’t really hear about it, but it makes a difference in the economy, for example, if you want to say, build a house with a small wetland on your land. under obama it would have been almost impossible to get past the epa

  904. lisab says:

    pelosi: you just got crumbs

    lisa: i bought a new car!

    pelosi: crumbs i tell you

    lisa: the check engine light on my new car is not always on …

  905. BayernFan says:

    saw a tweet that suggests Trey Gowdy might be appointed Special Counsel to investigate the FISA scandal etc.

  906. phoenixrisen says:

    #938 That would be awesome

  907. Mr.Vito says:

    Dershowitz:

    “The Republican memo standing alone raises some serious questions about the process by which the warrants were obtained from the FISA court. The Democratic memo, if it is forthcoming, may purport to answer some of those questions. But it will never be able to answer them definitely without an objective assessment of the actual FISA application itself.

    This episode strengthens the view – expressed by me from day one of the investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election – that the entire enterprise of appointing a special counsel was misguided. Instead, Congress should have created a nonpartisan commission of objective experts to investigate the entire issue of Russian involvement in the election and other claims made by either party about any unfairness surrounding it.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/02/02/alan-dershowitz-nunes-fisa-memo-deserves-more-investigation-time-for-nonpartisan-commission.html

  908. Mr.Vito says:

    John Kass, Chicago Tribune:

    Democrats melt down over Nunes memo and enter the Upside Down

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-republican-memo-kass-0204-story.html

    “The only branch of our government to have proper oversight is Congress. And the only real answer is sunshine, so we may see to make up our own minds about how our country is governed.

    Supreme Court Justice Louis Brandeis put it best: “Sunlight is the best disinfectant.”

    But in the damp swampy shadows, where there is little sunlight, infections tend to grow.”

  909. DW says:

    DOWN goes DOOK! Lost to the St. John’s Red Storm team that was 10-13 overall, and 0-11 in the Big East. WOW.

  910. Redmen4ever says:

    St. John’s beats Duke. Mueller seeks wiretap on Chris Mullin.

  911. Tom says:

    933. Obama can’t do this because he is probably complicit. If a full scale investigation is launched someone will start talking to save themselves. I can’t see Lynch, Comey, Yates, et. al. taking a bullet for Obama now that he’s done.

  912. Chicon says:

    Did Loretta have to sign off on the FISA warrants regarding Page?

  913. Messy57 says:

    please remember that the Steele dossier has been mostly authenticated, and had been from the get-go.

    Remember that friendly foreigners from Australia and the UK who want the best for the US were the ones who informed the FBI.

    Oppo research is people looking for FACTS. The Republicans who did the memo think that because the DNC paid for some of it, that it couldn’t have been true.

    There are quite a few cases in which oppo researchers have saved the nation from criminals from gaining office.

  914. Messy57 says:

    The Repubican memo is a bit of a fraud, with bits and pieces taken out of context.

    Remember that FISA renewals need far more than an excerpt from one single source, and remember too that Peter Strzok wrote the early drafts of the letter that destroyed the Clinton campaign and got Trump elected.

    If there was a conspiracy to elect her in the FBI, that was exactly the wrong way to do it.

  915. lisab says:

    Obama can’t do this because he is probably complicit.
    ————

    actually that is why he should. he can never be charged, because he is obama. but he can be trashed …. if he came out strongly against fbi shenanegan’s …

    he would look great, the dems would get cover to hide behind, and a few scapegoats would go to jail.

  916. DW says:

    Syracuse about to play Virginia. Virginia has one of the toughest defenses around and Syracuse has maybe the worst offence in the ACC.

    The final score may well be Virginia 57, Syracuse 13.

  917. Messy57 says:

    He probably wasn’t. There wasn’t a conspiracy to elect Hillary in the FBI as they hated her. Why do you think that they wasted all that money investigating Peter Schweizer’s NOVEL?

  918. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Victor Davis Hanson discusses Obama’s role in his article:

    “And Barack Obama? We now know that he himself used an alias to communicate at least 20 times with Hillary on her private, non-secure gmail account. But Obama lied on national TV, saying he learned of Hillary’s illegal server only when the rest of the nation did, by reading the news. Would he have dared to lie so publicly if he’d assumed that Trump’s presidency was imminent? Would he ever have allowed his subordinates to use the dossier to obtain FISA warrants and pass around and unmask the resulting surveillance transcripts if he’d seen Trump as the likely winner and a potentially angered president with powers to reinvestigate all these illegal acts?
    We sometimes forget that Barack Obama, not candidate Hillary Clinton, was president when the FBI conducted the lax investigation of the email scandal, when Loretta Lynch outsourced her prosecutorial prerogatives to James Comey, when the FBI trafficked with the Clinton-funded Fusion GPS dossier, when various DOJ and FBI lawyers requested FISA-approved surveillance largely on the basis of a fraudulent document, and when administration officials unmasked and leaked the names of American citizens.
    Had Hillary Clinton polled ten points behind Donald Trump in early 2016, we’d have none of these scandals — not because those involved were moral actors (none were), but because Hillary would have been considered yesterday’s damaged goods and not worth any extra-legal exposure taken on her behalf.”

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/455885/expected-clinton-victory-explains-federal-employee-wrongdoings

    Sounds like typical Chicago politician. Any surprises that this happened on his watch?

  919. DW says:

    wow, Syracuse scored in the first two minutes. That could be the last points of the first half for them.

  920. DW says:

    949 – Democrats lie? uh, yeah, and earth spins on its axis, and the moon is in orbit around the earth, and the earth is in orbit around the sun.

  921. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    944, 945. These posts are pathetic. Trying to justify a misrepresentation to a court. A prior post provided a rebuttal to this sort of nonsense.

    “If this is not a scandal, then the following protocols are now considered permissible in American electoral practice and constitutional jurisprudence: An incumbent administration can freely use the FBI and the DOJ to favor one side in a presidential election, by buying its opposition research against the other candidate, using its prestige to authenticate such a third-party oppositional dossier, and then using it to obtain court-ordered wiretaps on American citizens employed by a candidate’s campaign— and do so by deliberately misleading the court about the origins and authors of the dossier that was used to obtain the warrants.”

  922. Phil says:

    ‘’The Steele dossier has been mostly authenticated, and has from the get go”

    That is absolute BS. You are the first person I have ever heard make that claim. Wow, you’ll say anything. Authenticated my a$$.

  923. jason says:

    Actually nothing has been authenticated. Nothing. Except that its a political hit job.

  924. jason says:

    Remember that friendly foreigners from Australia and the UK”

    LOL, these were Hillary friendly people, not America friendly.

    Huge difference.

  925. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The dossier was a product of “opposition research” which is other candidates partisan attempt to dig up as much dirt about an opposing candidate as possible, and interpret it in the worst possible way against a candidate. It is a completely bias source. Willfully not disclosing this fact to a judge is fraudulent nondisclosure. Just stating the dossier was “politically motivated” amounts to a cover-up.

  926. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @KimStrassel
    “If you are a FISA judge, wouldn’t you have different reactions to a dossier described as “politically motivated” vs. one “funded by the rival of the campaign being spied upon”? The fact FBI shaded the truth suggests it was worried about just that.”

  927. Messy57 says:

    952. Yet, it’s entirely true.
    955. Nope. It was proven by the memo.

  928. lisab says:

    ‘’The Steele dossier has been mostly authenticated, and has from the get go”

    That is absolute BS. You are the first person I have ever heard make that claim. Wow, you’ll say anything. Authenticated my a$$.
    ——————————–

    it is an authentic dossier …

  929. JC says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    February 3, 2018 at 12:38 pm
    -Nobody I know on HHR ever claimed Trump was a “true conservative”.

    Have you already forgotten JC and Albert Hodges?
    ——————————

    When have I ever said that? In fact, I’ve said the exact opposite. Trump is NOT ideological at all.

    Which is ironic, since he has implemented the most conservative agenda since Regan (if not more so). But I don’t think Trump see’s it like that. I think that in his mind, he’s just doing what makes sense.

    This sums up my view perfectly:

    I want to properly state this. Donald Trump is not a conservative, and in his own mind especially he’s not a conservative. But that doesn’t mean he doesn’t think that way, and it doesn’t mean that he’s not oriented in that direction, particularly as he sees how the opposition treats him. These are people that used to be friends of his in some regards. New York liberal moderates, they were friends. Now he sees who they really are. And when I say he’s not a conservative, I mean he’s not a doctrinaire, ideological conservative. He cannot tell you who Edmund Burke is. He cannot tell you who Friedrich Hayek is. And he’s not interested. Doesn’t mean he doesn’t — he’s not interested in that.

    Donald Trump doesn’t size things up this way. He looks at problems that need to be fixed, and he thinks he’s got an abundance of common sense, and his way’s the right way, the only way, and he’s gonna do it. You know what he’s doing today? He’s heading over the Treasury department to do what he can to blow up Dodd-Frank with executive orders, and to do what he can do with the tax code. Since the Congress won’t help him in anything right now, he’s doing as much as he can with executive orders. He’s not stopping.

    But he doesn’t get up and say, “What conservative things can I do today?” He doesn’t get up and say, “What are the liberals doing today that I can really humiliate and embarrass them with?” He doesn’t do that. He gets up and looks at the problems that he sees and has identified and does what he can to go about solving them…

    …At any rate, none of this means that Trump is not accomplishing conservative things, because he clearly is. And in fact he’s probably accomplishing more conservative things than previous Republican presidents who have tried to tell us they’re conservative but they really haven’t been in terms of doctrinaire. But this came down to something. This election wasn’t even about that.
    https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2017/04/21/trump-has-blown-up-the-conservative-media/amp/

  930. Bitterlaw says:

    The idea that Trump’s agenda has been more conservative than Reagan shows both ignorance and a lack of respect for Reagan.

  931. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    958. “Yet, it’s entirely true.”

    Am curious, have you reviewed the dossier yourself? If not, who has reviewed it whom you consider impartial and said it is entirely true?

  932. lisab says:

    Is it legal for a sitting President to be “wire tapping” a race for president prior to an election?

  933. jason says:

    Steele is on record as saying he wanted to make sure Trump was not President and was actually let go because he couldn’t stop leaking to the media, he has zero credibility of any kind.

  934. Messy57 says:

    962. I read it, and sources I trust claim that most of it has indeed been varefied.

    yes I could consider it impartial.

    964. Steele believed what he found and thus was alarmed by it. When the FBI apparently let the thing go (they didn’t, but he didn’t know that), he went to the press.

    963. That has been proven false.

  935. jason says:

    Yep, I have said now for over 2 years that Trump is not a Republican or a conservative. Never was, never will be.

    But he answers the door when opportunity knocks.

    And Hillary is not President.

  936. jason says:

    Steele is a third rate scumbag.

    Was “alarmed” my ass.

    He was paid to do a political hit job, nothing more.

    And he was not even very good at that.

  937. jason says:

    And of course the lie the Dems have been spreading that the dossier was originally paid by Reps is completely bogus.

  938. Mr.Vito says:

    Everything was proven false before it was proven true. Hope that clears it up.

  939. Tina says:

    The dossier has been verified by Schiff for Brains.

  940. Tina says:

    The dossier was unverified.

    Comedy in march of 2017.

    The dossier was unverified before that time, at that time, and now.

    It is sheot.

  941. Tina says:

    Notice hiw the drats and the drat olants, like mcstuffin, are saying so what, to the fisa abuse?

  942. Tina says:

    Waj claims that four separate judges approved the fisa warrant and extensions.

    Imo, likely four separate justices appointed by Mute 43

  943. jason says:

    Corey, however, “knows” what happened.

    “Stormy Daniels, the adult film star whose real name is Stephanie Clifford, is again denying her reported affair with President Donald Trump more than a decade before he was elected to the White House.

    “I am not denying this affair because I was paid ‘hush money’ as has been reported in overseas owned tabloids. I am denying this affair because it never happened,”

  944. JC says:

    Of course, bitterlaw’s idea of a “true conservative” is his guy John McCain, who has absolutely no problem with federal agencies using fake opposition research to obtain warrants to spy on republicans.

  945. jason says:

    I read it, and sources I trust claim that most of it has indeed been varefied.”

    Messy has “sources”.

    Are they the same sources that told Hillary was going to win NC?

  946. JC says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    February 3, 2018 at 5:18 pm
    The idea that Trump’s agenda has been more conservative than Reagan shows both ignorance and a lack of respect for Reagan.
    ———————

    Okay, in what way is Trump’s agenda less conservative than Regan’s? I’ll give you one; infrastructure. Go from there.

  947. Tina says:

    http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/TODAY/z_Creative/inline-headers/FINAL%20DRAFT%20–%20Dear%20Colleague%20on%20Nunes%20Memo.pdf

    Here is likely the drat memo response, It is a lot of bs.

    And they fail to knock down any aspect of the nunes memo.

  948. Tina says:

    One drat counterpoint.

    The memo does not point to a reason why swampstein should be fired.

    Seriously?

    That is not the intent of the nunes memo.

  949. Tina says:

    DRat memo

    The house rs are in a olot to obstruct the mulehead investigatiom.

    They are also agents for pooty poot.

    Lol

  950. Mr.Vito says:

    It will be a video memo of Morgan Freeman reading the dossier verbatim.

  951. Mr.Vito says:

    I thought Reagan called for raising $50 billion for infrastructure by adding 5 cents per gallon to the gas tax.

  952. Mr.Vito says:

    “This column is trying to imagine how an editor at The Wall Street Journal would treat a draft article alleging a political campaign adviser was secretly working for a foreign government if the story featured uncorroborated opposition research paid for by a rival campaign. If the writer of the draft article assured the editor that readers would not be told where the information originated, it’s a safe bet this would not increase the chances of publication.

    This column is also trying to imagine the conversation that would ensue if a reporter or writer then tried to persuade the editor by appealing to the authority of Yahoo News.”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/obama-and-the-fisa-court-1517608555

  953. Mr.Vito says:

    “Readers concerned about the government’s surveillance authority may be interested to know about one current member of the Intelligence committee who began focusing on this issue all the way back in the George W. Bush administration.

    In March of 2007, he announced that he was “deeply troubled” by what he called “abuses of authority” by the FBI in acquiring personal information on U.S. citizens. Over the years, he urged various restrictions on the ability of the executive branch to get information on Americans’ phone calls. In order “to protect privacy and increase transparency” he sought in various ways to reform the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court—the very court that approved the electronic surveillance of a Trump associate for reasons that are still not entirely clear.

    Way ahead of the news, this particular lawmaker specifically introduced the “Ending Secret Law Act” which according to a press release from his office, “would require the Attorney General to declassify significant Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) opinions, allowing Americans to know how the Court has interpreted” its legal authorities.

    This lawmaker said that his legislation “will help ensure we have true checks and balances when it comes to the judges who are given the responsibility of overseeing our most sensitive intelligence gathering and national security programs.”

    His name is Adam Schiff, and he is now the ranking member on House Intelligence. But oddly he doesn’t seem to want to take credit for his early concern for civil liberties.”

  954. Mr.Vito says:

    Also, didn’t Reagan flip to the gas tax position after losing ground in the midterms?

    Are the Republicans trying to follow a blueprint here by getting out ahead of this?

  955. Tina says:

    Look another drat acknowledging the dossier

    Evan McMullin
    @Evan_McMullin
    The inclusion of the dossier in FISA applications may represent an unprecedented collision of opposition research and national security, but remember: the cause of that was a presidential candidate’s likely collaboration with the very foreign adversary attacking our democracy.
    12:57 PM · Feb 2, 2018

  956. Mr.Vito says:

    Shooting that unarmed man in Littleon, Colorado in front of his family may have been an unprecedented collision of unverified tips and SWAT: but remember, the cause of that was the likely presence of an armed hostage taker who had killed already.

  957. Mr.Vito says:

    This is an odd play by the Democrats.

    No one votes for Republicans because they support Patriot Act spying without oversight.

    There are certainly types that vote Democrat or sit out because of wars and spying, etc.

    I guess that is why they have to shout “obstruction” and “treason”. But then, they just look as partisan as they claim the Republicans are.

  958. Mr.Vito says:

    Consider that Feinstein just leaked stuff when she felt like it, while Nunes went through all the hoops before releasing this memo. Who looks more unprofessional in that comparison?

  959. JC says:

    So Regan and Trump were similar in infrastructure too. Of course, I never felt that conservatives were inherently against infrastructure spending. What we’re against is how this issue is repeatedly turned into a boondoggle exploit to give away billions of tax dollars to (liberal) special interests groups.

    Something tells me that Trump isn’t going to give millions of dollars to union pensions or university feminist studies.

  960. Cash Cow TM says:

    hostage taker

    got her a steak
    hog stake rate
    rat hoe gasket

  961. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    988. What McMullin appears to be saying is that, yes, the dossier is a bunch of bull, but there still was Russian collusion.

    McMullin precipitously dropped into obscurity after his brief independent run for president, in which he actually got fewer votes than even Hillary in Utah. He was looking at running for the seat Chaffetz was vacating, but polling showed he only had the support of 13% of Republicans, so did not run.

    He has his brief 15 minutes of fame, and is not now adjusting to obscurity very well.

  962. Mr.Vito says:

    995 Well, Orman is making a comeback, so there is always hope… yeah!

  963. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    958. “Messy57 says: 952. Yet, it’s entirely true.
    955. Nope. It was proven by the memo.”

    What a timid, vapid troll. Doesn’t even call us names. They must have brought a retired troll out of Shady Acres, since the others ones have disappeared. At least they should offer him a vacation trip to Bogo Pogo.

  964. Diamond Jim says:

    M

  965. JC says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    February 3, 2018 at 7:02 pm
    This is an odd play by the Democrats.
    ————————

    This is what I thought about the shutdown. I was sure that the Dems would keep the government running, because I couldn’t fathom how shutting it down would help them politically. Even with all of the media spin it would just look bad, especially over immigration. Yet they did it anyway. Their behavior at the SOTU was another mystifying action.

    I think they really are blinded by their raw hatred of Trump.

    They’re also stuck in their ever increasingly isolated echo chamber, and they have no idea how they appear to people outside of it.

  966. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw ,

    What is your deal with Trump? You can hate on him all you want, nobody is stopping you.

    At the same time, you can easily acknowledge the good he has done. In fact, by sheer will, and in large part due to his outsized ego, his battles against the Democrats and the media have actually been a good thing, in that the veil has been dropped, and the hostility that was always there is now out in the open!

  967. Mr.Vito says:

    “Bitterlaw , What is your deal with Trump?”

    He gave him his new job in return for signing a non-disclosure agreement.

  968. mnw says:

    BL may hate Trump, but he held his nose & voted for him anyway, just as I did with McCain.

    I give big points for that. I don’t think having a delicate nose is useful when it comes to choosing presidents.

  969. Messy57 says:

    Just missed the “big M” by three…Damn!!!!!

  970. Mr.Vito says:

    “I give big points for that.”

    or “heap big wampum” as Elizabeth Warren would say…

  971. Messy57 says:

    997. What’s wrong with being polite? Not calling someone a “M?‡°??‡Ò?!!!!” is something worthy of scorn? Who’s the troll now?

  972. Mr.Vito says:

    “What’s wrong with being polite?”

    Nothing. That was his point.

  973. Mr.Vito says:

    ZING!

  974. mnw says:

    Selzer Iowa poll being released in dribs & drabs by the Des Moines Register.

    Naturally the lead is: “Iowans (heart) illegals.”

  975. Chicon says:

    Well, peeps, put down a beloved dog today. Not fun…..

  976. mnw says:

    No, Chicon

    A terrible day. I went through it summer before last. We enjoyed her company for 15 years, so she must’ve liked her conditions of employment, but that doesn’t make it any easier.

  977. Chicon says:

    Mnw – Thanks. 11 in this case. I will miss her, but it had to happen.

  978. Bitterlaw says:

    At the same time, you can easily acknowledge the good he has done.

    Gorsuch.

    Signing the Ryan-McConnell tax bill.

    Supposedly cutting regulations that do not affect me. (I will trust Tina on this).

    Respecting the military and veterans.

    Defeating Hillary.

    All of those are good things. Trump is still a scumbag as a person.

  979. Bitterlaw says:

    JC does not think that Trump is a “true conservative.” I guess he forgot his posts where he said Trump was the new leader to make the GOP conservative and defeat the never defined Establishment.

  980. Tina says:

    Matthew P.
    Matthew P.
    @Matthew____P
    ·
    Feb 2
    For those keeping score…
    A fake rumor can start four congressional investigations, a Special Counsel with 16 prosecutors and allow millions to be spent
    But…
    Actual testimony and proof that the FBI abused its powers to spy on POTUS political rivals is no big deal.

  981. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Sadly, Rosie the Riveter recently passed away at 96.

    “Naomi Parker aka Rosie the Riveter passed away January 20th of 2018. She inspired so many young women with her iconic poster. She was 96.
    I haven’t seen a lot of press on this and sadly I only just now learned of this. I wanted to take the time to honor her.”

  982. Tina says:

    Brit Hume
    Brit Hume
    @brithume
    Exactly the question I’ve been asking.
    JobbedtheFout
    @jobbed_da_F_out
    Replying to @brithume
    If the probable cause was so strong to obtain a warrant, why include the Steele memo and a Yahoo news article?
    6:09 PM · Feb 3, 2018

  983. Tina says:

    Nick Short ??
    @PoliticalShort
    I’d like to see Scarborough put down Mika’s purse and work one average 14 hour day as a farmer.
    Joe Scarborough
    @JoeNBC
    In retrospect, Nunes would have been better off remaining a dairy farmer instead of coming to Congress and wrecking the US House Intel committee. (link: https://twitter.com/brianefallon/status/959653337414193152) twitter.com/brianefallon/s

    BOOM.

  984. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump’s Rasmussen numbers are higher than before the election in 2016:

    “The Rasmussen Reports daily tracking poll shows 49 per cent of likely U.S. voters believe Trump is doing a good job in the White House. The same number disagree.”

    “The 49 per cent number puts him above his performance level in the 2016 election, when 46.1 per cent of voters chose him over Hillary Clinton and a handful of minor candidates.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5345079/Trump-vaults-49-cent-approval-rating-voters.html#ixzz567QuREqv

    In difference to Bogo Pogo’s most famous troll’s dislike of Rasmussen, will point out that the RCP averages have Trump’s economic approval rating at 51%. Agree with the Bogo Pogo troll that a lot of this is the result the Democrats imploding.

  985. Bitterlaw says:

    Eagles 27
    Patriots 21

    Please, Football Gods. Tomorrow is my 50th birthday.

  986. mnw says:

    Congrats. You’re a lot younger than I thought.

  987. Tina says:

    Be wary of the rooster.

    Howdy Gowdy is going swampy.

  988. zorkpolitics says:

    My wife got her first paycheck under the new tax changes, Federal taxes dropped $81. Nice extra $2100 for the year.

  989. Tina says:

    John Cardillo
    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    ·
    36m
    .@Comey’s FBI lost Omar Mateen’s wife 15 minutes after he slaughtered 50 people in Orlando, but have been glued to Carter Page’s tail for five years?

  990. mnw says:

    It’s too bad people won’t see the new withholding rates go into effect until 2019.

    I fear people will pay their taxes THIS year, & then wrongly conclude that “nothing has changed.”

  991. Cash Cow TM says:

    Sad to report…apparently some bug (flu?) has struck Walt’s house.

    The Mrs. was sick and Walt had stuff coming out both ends last night.

    They felt it would not be wise to go to church today.

    Cow is still in the underground bunker, and am afraid to go back in the house. If that bug hits me…well with four stomachs…if will NOT be pretty.
    *****************
    Glad to report that both Walt and his Mrs. seem to be on the upswing this morning…

  992. jason says:

    Gowdy was clear today on Face the Nation

    Trey Gowdy: No Dossier, No Surveillance of Carter Page

  993. jason says:

    He also said he has confidence in Mueller.

  994. jason says:

    Of course Mueller has nothing to do with the FISA court surveillance.

  995. Hugh says:

    For once it was there side shutting down the government. They are finally having their own deadender problems

  996. jason says:

    So the drop-off in NFL viewership is entirely white men.

    White women no change.

    AA’s +2

    Hispanics +1

    White men -22.

    Tell me the politicizing of the NFL is not responsible for at least a big chunk of that so I can offer you some almost dry land in the Everglades.

  997. Cash Cow TM says:

    Say…I have no TV here in the bunker.
    When is the Sooper Bowl?

    IS THAT TODAY?

  998. Tina says:

    The rooster is a bit incorrect.

    He should have said, no dossier, no sp.

  999. jason says:

    Bitterlaw ,

    What is your deal with Trump? You can hate on him all you want, nobody is stopping you.

    At the same time, you can easily acknowledge the good he has done.”

    I think he has acknowledged it. As I have.

    But what about “Trump is not a conservative” is a problem for you, considering you have said the same many times?

  1000. Tina says:

    My question would be after 15 months of investigations, when does the sheot show end?

  1001. Tina says:

    Well, they blamed us for 2013.

    And the drats lost in 2013 and 2014.

    So, who really lost?

  1002. jason says:

    I hope the Eagles win because poor suffering bastard Bitter deserves it.

  1003. Tina says:

    So, the eagles had no kneelers, the patriots had only a couple of kneelers,

    I aint watching this sheot bowl

  1004. Tina says:

    Yeah jason, he needs a nice birtthday present,

    He probably gets a jersey from his family too.

    Maybe a ticket to a game next sesson?

  1005. Tina says:

    I also hope the iggles win,

    But still not watching.

  1006. jason says:

    Well, they blamed us for 2013.

    And the drats lost in 2013 and 2014.

    So, who really lost?”

    Sorry, straw argument. The Dems didn’t lose because of the shutdown, and the Reps didn’t win because of the shutdown. As it was other factors were the reason.

    The Ted Cruz grandstanding shutdown was stupid, nothing changes that.

  1007. Tina says:

    I read the claim here that the 2013 shutdown would cost us seats.

    Untrue

  1008. Tina says:

    And the 2013 shutdown was bery stoopid.

    Both can be true.

  1009. mnw says:

    Tina 1029

    I don’t agree that the shutdown will hurt the DEMs in the midterms. Anyone who says that underestimates the ability of the public to FORGET stuff like that— esp since it lasted basically for one extended weekend… 10 months prior to the GE.

    DW

    Fwiw, Josh Krashauer at Natl Journal (a respectable political analyst, & not part of the DEM whore journo claque) says that the money disparity between the respective party committees is evened out by the fact that GOP House candidates haven’t raised much money for their individual campaigns. Some of the DEMs have much better FR totals.

  1010. mnw says:

    Schumer sez no DACA deal likely but no second shutdown, either.

  1011. lisab says:

    So the drop-off in NFL viewership is entirely white men.

    White women no change.
    ———————————–

    well … that is true … i am a white woman and i can honestly say the amount i watch the nfl has not changed

  1012. mnw says:

    You ought to see all the RRH eeyoring over the Senate races.

    If you read those people long enough, they’ll convince you that Grant should’ve surrendered to Lee.

  1013. Bitterlaw says:

    i am a white woman and i can honestly say the amount i watch the nfl has not changed

    lisab is the biggest Patriot fan trash talker here but does not watch the Patriots play.

  1014. Bitterlaw says:

    Raining in Philadelphia but should stop just as the game ends. Hmmmmmm. The special oily substance on the lamp posts may wash off by then. That could add to the excitement if…

  1015. Mr.Vito says:

    “South Carolina Republican Rep. Trey Gowdy, the chairman of the House Oversight Committee who is leaving Congress this year, has turned down the opportunity to be nominated to the federal bench, Fox News has learned.

    According to sources, White House Counsel Don McGahn called Gowdy twice to see if he would accept a nomination to serve as a judge on the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals, but Gowdy declined. McGahn was about to submit a list of names for the 4th Circuit openings, and thought Gowdy wanted to be considered.

    It was thought to be Gowdy’s dream job, but the lawmaker has signaled he is more interested in practicing law and teaching. The 4th Circuit has two openings for judges.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/01/trey-gowdy-turned-down-appointment-to-federal-bench.html

  1016. JeffP says:

    Just think …crack investigative reporter @saracarter who has been on this whole story for months says the Nunes Memo is just 10% of the story so far.

    Remember all the unmasking reported last year under Obama? This first Steele and the second dossier coming is what was used to unmask and monitor Trump, family, and campaign illegally under “Russian collusion”. It is sickening what is going on. The MSM are covering their butts too…they were complicit with leaks from FBI and State Department.

  1017. JeffP says:

    I hope Sessions is just laying back waiting for the right time to take control of this abuse of power.

  1018. Tina says:

    Overall, rooster was a disappointment,

    Brings up cambridge, which had nothing to do with the trump campaign,

    Brings up trump, jr. Nada.

    All bark and no bite.

    Ineffective and to use his words, a lousy politician.

  1019. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “A CBS/YouGov poll released yesterday showed than 43-percent of Democrats approved of President Trump’s State of the Union address. However, this news was not shown on CBS News’ broadcast shows like CBS This Morning or CBS Evening News, according to NewsBusters, but only on CBS’s online streaming-only service CBSN discussed it.”

    In addition, 97% of Republicans approved, and 72% of Independents. Not the speech that Democrats should have snubbed Trump at.

  1020. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “I hope Sessions is just laying back waiting for the right time to take control of this abuse of power.”

    Has anyone checked if Sessions even has a pulse?

  1021. Bitterlaw says:

    I will now go silent until the game is over.

  1022. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This is irrefutable now:

    “@RepMikeTurner on the @TheDemocrats’ memo:

    “There’s not going to be one sentence that’s going to change the fact that @HillaryClinton funded and @DNC funded materials were used as evidence in a court case against the @realDonaldTrump campaign, and that’s wrong.””

  1023. mnw says:

    I wish our trolls would emulate BL’s example and go silent until Gabriel blows his trumpet.

  1024. DW says:

    Rooting for Bitterlaw to realize his dream.

  1025. Chicon says:

    Go big or go home….

    Bitter’s Birds 34, Patriots 14.

  1026. Mr.Vito says:

    The Vikings will make sure that the Eagles lose.

  1027. Mr.Vito says:

    If the Eagles win, it will be because Pennsylvania voted for Trump, of course.

  1028. lisab says:

    twitter

    lil cup?

    Damn…? the NFL been around longer than our government. We’re gonna have 51 Super Bowls and only 45 presidents. I didn’t know that

  1029. Messy57 says:

    1016. two years ago, thanks to term limits, POTUS had no political rivals.

    1059. No. It was used as to help authorize an investigation. this sort of thing is done all the time. Most law enforcement organizations use “biased” material as a base to see if if it is true or not.

    Say if Godfather X tells a snitch to tell the cops that Godfather Y is selling smack, because Y is (and this next part he won’t tell the cops) muscling in on X’s territory. The Fuzz is obligated to check it out. It doesn’t matter that Godfather X’s snitch is biased as long as the information is good and it leads to an arrest of Gofather Y’s goons.

    The Republican theory is that Steele made the whole thing up, which he didn’t. He believed it, he was alarmed, and he told the FBI.

    Opposition research is usually true.

  1030. Messy57 says:

    1043. the Republicans got the senate because of Ebola.

  1031. Tina says:

    According to the congressman, to justify a FISA warrant, the Justice Department had to show probable cause that “the target of the electronic surveillance is . . . an agent of a foreign power.” No, that’s only half of what must be shown. Nadler neglects to explain that, because Page is an American citizen, the Justice Department also had to establish that the clandestine activity in which Page supposedly engaged on Russia’s behalf may have involved federal crimes. (See sec. 1801(b) of Title 50, U.S. Code.)

    http://amp.nationalreview.com/article/456093/jerrold-nadler-memo-rebuttal-weak-unpersuasive?__twitter_impression=true

  1032. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It just gets worse and worse.

    “By Rowan Scarborough – The Washington Times – Sunday, February 4, 2018

    The FBI officially authorized payments to Christopher Steele, who wrote the infamous Trump-Russia dossier, but then fired the former British spy for lying to agents about his covert leaks to the news media.
    The sequence of events is outlined in the declassified memo released Friday by Rep. Devin Nunes, California Republican and chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.
    The Nunes memo is the first official confirmation that the FBI hierarchy made a decision to start paying Mr. Steele and why the deal fell through. Justice Department witnesses in public have declined to confirm such a deal.
    The memo shows that the bureau was using Mr. Steele’s unverified Democratic Party-financed dossier not only to obtain a court-ordered wiretap on Trump volunteer Carter Page, but it also wanted a commitment to a longer-term financial agreement with the former British intelligence officer to continue investigating President Trump.
    If he had not lied, Mr. Steele, who vowed to ruin the Trump candidacy, could have been investigating Mr. Trump from the postelection transition into his presidency.””

  1033. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1066. “Opposition research is usually true.”

    You understand this might be the dumbest comment that ever appeared on this board?

  1034. Tina says:

    The firing by the fbi, and then rehiring by doj is weird.

  1035. biomom says:

    Refs starting to help the Patriots already. Hubby and I predicted there would be a call against the Eagles to stop their momentum. It happened.

  1036. biomom says:

    Why do I feel there is no way that the Patriots will be allowed to lose no matter what. Are they better? Probably. But it will still not matter because They Cannot Lose!

  1037. Messy57 says:

    1070. No I don’t. There are a hell of a lot of people here who’ve made far less intelligent and less true statements then mine (which are both true and smart)

  1038. Cash Cow TM says:

    BITTER,

    COW IS PULLING FOR YOUR IGGLES!

  1039. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking silence. WTF. False start costs TD and missed extra point. You can’t leave 5 points on the field against Brady.

  1040. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    174. “No I don’t. There are a hell of a lot of people here who’ve made far less intelligent and less true statements then mine.”

    True. But all the trolls have left, so you have lost your competition.

  1041. BayernFan says:

    I PI flag?? Lol

  1042. BayernFan says:

    *No

  1043. Cash Cow TM says:

    GO IGGLES…

    Love the trick plays involing QBs as receivers…

  1044. Cash Cow TM says:

    I missed WV native, WWII veteran and Medal of Honor recipient Woody Williams doing the coin toss at the super bowl..

    Walt has met him…

  1045. Bitterlaw says:

    I know everybody not watching the game has their reasons. I thought it was very smart of the NFL to have a Medal of Honor recipient from the battle of IWork Jima do the coin toss. I did not see any kneeling players.

  1046. Bitterlaw says:

    iwo.

  1047. Cash Cow TM says:

    The half time show is remarkably similar to the half time shows that they put on at half time at Walt’s high school.

  1048. BayernFan says:

    No one kneeled. I’m watching “The Big Game”, but boycotting the commercials. Besides, after puppy monkey baby, what’s the point.

  1049. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1077
    Yes, Messy is truly as dumb as a doorknob. Are she and Paul the same person? They write identically.

  1050. DW says:

    Touchdown eagles…pulling for you bitter!

  1051. Bitterlaw says:

    The Eagles are in a shootout with Brady. Great.

  1052. JeffP says:

    What a game…looks like fa key turnover in 4th quarter to decide game.

  1053. BayernFan says:

    WHEW

  1054. BayernFan says:

    white knuckle time for bitter

  1055. Chicon says:

    Pats really struggling on defense.

  1056. Bitterlaw says:

    A lot of strain on this almost 50 year old heart.

  1057. BayernFan says:

    a lot of field to burn the clock with

  1058. BayernFan says:

    poor guy

  1059. BayernFan says:

    I was there during game 7 of 2016 WS…it worked out

  1060. BayernFan says:

    stay inbounds !!!

  1061. BayernFan says:

    burn them TOs

  1062. BayernFan says:

    keep it on the ground!!! they’re gonna have to settle for 3

  1063. BayernFan says:

    GOT IT

  1064. BayernFan says:

    Here is where the refs can steal it

  1065. BayernFan says:

    if laying out to cross the plane is not a football move then nothing is

  1066. BayernFan says:

    GAME

  1067. Hugh says:

    Congrats Bitter

  1068. BayernFan says:

    Stay alive bitter

  1069. BayernFan says:

    Where’s the riot the evening?

  1070. biomom says:

    Not over till it’s over. Fingers crossed.

  1071. BayernFan says:

    Please no OT

  1072. BayernFan says:

    Please no OT

  1073. NYCmike says:

    Let me be the first to congratulate you, President Bitterlaw!

  1074. BayernFan says:

    Couldn’t ask for a better KO result

  1075. BayernFan says:

    KEEP BREATHING BITTER

  1076. BayernFan says:

    Can Brady deliver an epic comeback?

  1077. BayernFan says:

    WHEW!! RIOT!!!!!!!!

  1078. NYCmike says:

    Wow!

    Enjoy YOUR WIN, Bitterlaw!!

  1079. Cash Cow TM says:

    I WANNA THANK GOD, MY MAMMA, AND ALL MY SUPPORTERS AND OTHER PEEPS FOR THIS WIN!

  1080. J. Cutler says:

    Belichek has a larger chest than Gisele!!!

  1081. Tina says:

    Congrats bl.

    I thought the zebras were goi gmto screw you in the end.

  1082. biomom says:

    Heart beating!! Refs did ok.

  1083. Cash Cow TM says:

    IN WV WE BURN COUCHES WHEN OUR FOOTBALL TEAM WINS!

  1084. BayernFan says:

    No Eagles kneeled this year. That’s why they won.

  1085. Tina says:

    In sf, we overturn or torch buses.

  1086. J. Cutler says:

    In Chicago, we umm, hmm.

  1087. J. Cutler says:

    Unlike Brady, I’ve never lost a Super Bowl.

  1088. DW says:

    congrats bitter!

  1089. DW says:

    1121 – and a red state

  1090. Big Joe says:

    Congratulations to the Eagles and Eagle fans. It’s always nice to see cheaters lose.

    Good sometimes does win over evil.

    Big Joe

  1091. Bitterlaw says:

    YESSSSSSSSSSSS

  1092. Tina says:

    So, strange to hear those words, pa red state.

    But True.

  1093. Tina says:

    Bl, if you need a jersey, i am sure you can get one in the street, or jcpenney sport shop.

    Anyway, congrats and naooy early birthday.

  1094. Cash Cow TM says:

    Eagles players on team (including practice squad) with WV connections:

    Bill Brown, Shepherd Univeristy (WV)
    Toba DePalma, WVU
    Rasut Douglas, WVU
    Shelton Gibson, WVU
    Najee Goode, WVU
    Tyler Orksky, WVU
    Wendell Sullivan, WVU
    Tre Sullivan, Shepherd University (WV)
    ******************************************
    You’re welcome, Bitter.

  1095. biomom says:

    Fireworks now in my Delaware neighborhood.

  1096. CG says:

    Someone has said on here many, many times

    “I will never understand congratulating fans. They have nothing to do with the victory.”

    But congratulations to the Eagles.

  1097. CG says:

    I hope MD is happy, even though he became a Democrat, he has been waiting for this as long as anyone.

  1098. Tina says:

    Canadian PM, Justin Bieber and his ugly socks, threaten to quit Nafta.

  1099. MikeP says:

    Congrats Bitterlaw

  1100. BayernFan says:

    phuq that poozy MD. lol

  1101. Tina says:

    Re mike flynn there are reports thst his 302 was changed or altered by Mccabe, Also, the judge has asked for the wiretap, unmaksking, and other information.

  1102. Tina says:

    Hence, the reason for the delay in sentencing, Flynn would have no say in the delay, the request came from Mulehead.

  1103. Tina says:

    Pete the cheats texts, the involvement of sjw yates in the unmasking, which was illegal, and all other brady related info. Has to be turned over

  1104. CG says:

    I wanted the Patriots to lose far more than I wanted the Eagles to win. This is how I expected to feel on Election Night 2016.

  1105. CG says:

    Nick Foles is a great story. I wonder if the fans t here will want him riding the bench next year.

  1106. Tina says:

    Brian O’Kelly
    @okelly_brian
    ·
    9m
    Replying to @JackPosobiec
    I wonder how long it will take for @JoyAnnReid to condemn the coach, Ertz and Foles for their thanking Jesus first thing. Plus all three are white. How come NBC didn’t have any people of color up there?

  1107. Tina says:

    Ertz and foles seem like stand up players, as does tory smith, who was a really goodmguy when he was here in sf.

  1108. CG says:

    Chris Long is being interviewed on the NFL Network wearing a championship hat.

    NYC hardest hit

  1109. CG says:

    I hope Bill Cosby is banned from the Broad Street Parade and that suburban attorneys are allowed to go.

  1110. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/960362134482964480/video/1

    Bl is here on the pole. I have 3 sources as confirmation

  1111. CG says:

    Pray for Santa Claus

  1112. CG says:

    I remember in 2003, Eagles owner Jeffrey Lurie said ESPN hiring Rush Limbaugh was an example of “institutional racism.”

    I hated the Eagles for years just because of that, but you know what? Rush did turn out to be a POS.

  1113. Tina says:

    Fake Indian and the jebots 2020 candidate jinxes team.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/elizabethforma/status/960290364132397056

  1114. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    When you go give MD a hug tomorrow, elbow him in the jaw, kick him in the shin, and put your boot up his ass, and sing “Fly Eagles Fly!”

  1115. NYCmike says:

    “Rush did turn out to be a POS.”

    -jason, may I translate?

    Rush realized in June of 2015 that JEB!2016 was the wrong person for the job.

  1116. CG says:

    Most cursed franchise in the major sports leagues now has to be considered a two person race between the Cleveland Indians and Toronto Maple Leafs.

    Buffalo Bills in third maybe.

  1117. Tina says:

    Gov. Mike Huckabee
    ?
    @GovMikeHuckabee
    Congrats to Eagles whose players never “took a knee” against Nat’l Anthem but whose coach and key players took a knee for Jesus Christ in Super Bowl victory. Nice!
    8:00 PM – Feb 4, 2018

  1118. Tina says:

    Did somebody mention flying?

    Jebot

  1119. CG says:

    Cleveland Browns and New York Knicks also have to be on the list.

    Possibly Atlanta Falcons too, just as a lingering effect from last year.

  1120. Bitterlaw says:

    Your congratulatory wishes are appreciated but I am just a fan.

    An extremely happy fan. Brady with the ball and 9 seconds left terrified me.

  1121. CG says:

    Definitely the KC Chiefs too

  1122. NYCmike says:

    The Dorsett guy was about a yard away from getting the rebound of that ball…….so close!

    Great game!

  1123. MichiganGuy says:

    Tina, glad to hear.

  1124. CG says:

    Not a great game for people who appreciate defense.

    But a big turnover at the end

  1125. CG says:

    Vikings are also definitely on the most cursed list and the Detroit Lions obviously.

  1126. Tina says:

    I think they have comedy on a lot of federal crimes that i mentioned before, plus obstruction.

  1127. Tina says:

    And good non call, the philky player shoved the patriots wr at the last play. Illegal contact for sure

  1128. jason says:

    I thought it was a great game.

    Bitter didn’t play so I can’t congratulate him but I am happy for him.

  1129. Tina says:

    Pretty clear what the fbi, doj coup plotters were doing.

    Privately telling the president thst he was not under investigation, and then leaking to cnn, the slimes, the amaz9n compost, suggesting thst he was.

  1130. MichiganGuy says:

    Justin Timberlake’s Super Bowl Halftime: Total Mess Even When You Dance, Dance, Dance
    .

    “Unless you were one of thousands clapping and swaying at Minneapolis’ U.S. Bank Stadium at Sunday’s Super Bowl Halftime show, history will tell it was an unmitigated disaster.
    Social media lit up with fans and critics desperate to out-snark each other on Timberlake’s choices for the annual romp sponsored by Pepsi, this year breaking up the death match between the New England Patriots and the Philadelphia Eagles.
    “He looks like a bitcoin millionaire who just bought his way into Westworld,”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/justin-timberlake’s-super-bowl-halftime-total-mess-even-when-you-dance-dance-dance/ar-BBIHMZk?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp
    ————————————————————————————————————–
    I guess I didn’t miss much.

  1131. CG says:

    Bruno Mars and Lady Gaga were both a lot better than the Timberlake effort.

  1132. jason says:

    He believed it, he was alarmed, and he told the FBI.

    Wrong, he was a paid political hack with an agenda.

  1133. jason says:

    1157. Not bad, but leave it to the pros.

  1134. CG says:

    The part of the Halftime Show where George Lopez came out to take swings at a Trump pinata, while the entire Harlem Children’s Choir took a knee was perhaps a bit much.

  1135. Tina says:

    Congratulatory wishes are now appreciated.

    See, bl is softening.

  1136. Tina says:

    Hopefully, jeb never wins office again.

    Maybe, he runs for dog catcher next time,

    Gets backing from the socialist son, whose inner socialim indicated he was against the tax cuts,

    The whale navarro can be his press secretary and jennifer rubin his campaign manager.

    Real republicans.

  1137. NYCmike says:

    “1157. Not bad, but leave it to the pros.”

    -You are correct…..way too much TRUTH in the translation.

  1138. Cash Cow TM says:

    DW,

    “The Arizona House of Representatives voted Thursday to immediately expel Rep. Don Shooter from office for “dishonorable” behavior after an investigation found he sexually harassed women over many years.

    It was the first time since 1991 that a member of the Arizona Legislature was removed by fellow lawmakers.

    House members voted 56-3 to oust Shooter, R-Yuma, after a dramatic flurry of events…”

  1139. jason says:

    So the two controversial calls did not go against the Eagles, pretty surprising.

    Of course I thought Cris Collinsworth was full of sh-t both times.

    First call, the receiver already had both feet in, the foot on the end zone line was irrelevant.

    Second call, the receiver was indeed a runner, he had control, dove for the goal line and crossed the plane.

  1140. CG says:

    I assume he claimed that that was not his true character and that there was a Second Shooter.

  1141. Tina says:

    Brit Hume
    Brit Hume
    @brithume
    ·
    8h
    Trey Gowdy told Face the Nation today there would have been no FISA warrant without the Steele dossier. Democrats are denying FBI’s McCable told the Intel committee that. The memo said he did. Did the CBS interviewer ask Gowdy what McCabe said? Nah.

  1142. Tina says:

    Thatt 2nd tiuchdown, the nbc leftists wanted the call to be reversed. They claimed he bobbled the ball.

  1143. CG says:

    Will the Eagles even go to the White House?

    With Lurie as their owner, my guess is no.

  1144. Tina says:

    Conversation
    Brit Hume
    Brit Hume
    @brithume
    What crime, exactly, is Mueller investigating?
    The Memo and the Mueller Probe, by Michael B. Mukasey
    The Memo and the Mueller Probe
    wsj.com
    6:20 PM · Feb 4, 2018

    Its the seinfeld crime.

  1145. Tina says:

    Mulehead is wasting a lot of sp $ on overpriced attorneys and investigators.

  1146. CG says:

    My cable tv package no longer includes the New England Sports Network. That would have been fun to watch.

  1147. Tina says:

    MAybe the doughboy nadler can tell us beside thr fake campaign dossier and a yahoo rehash stoehm, what evidence was provided to the fisa court.

    Also, why was rhe fisa court judge removed from the flynn case, after flynn entered his fuilty plea?

  1148. Bitterlaw says:

    Nick Foles is praising Jesus in his post game interview and has not been cut.

    Jason hardest hit.

  1149. CG says:

    Jason Kelce is tearfully quoting Calvin Coolidge.

    Author would have loved that.

  1150. Tina says:

    Soon it is day 4 and the drats have not refuted the so called nunes memo.

  1151. Tina says:

    Reports are saying that philly police requesting backup from dhs?

  1152. CG says:

    Carson Wentz said to Nick Foles after he took the MVP trophy, “that’s me next year.”

    I wonder if Pence would say that to Trump.

  1153. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – All is well-behaved in Philadelphia. I am watching the coverage on 5 networks. No troubles.

  1154. CG says:

    Conservative Treehouse is reporting that the Philadelphia Black Panthers have replaced the Liberty Bell with a giant copy of “Fire and Fury.”

  1155. Tina says:

    OK cool bl, the way it shoukd be.

  1156. BayernFan says:

    Lol check out the philly police scanner

  1157. Mr.Vito says:

    So much winning, Mr. Bitter!

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    Congratulations to the Philadelphia Eagles on a great Super Bowl victory!

  1158. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    February 4, 2018 at 11:49 pm
    Tina – All is well-behaved in Philadelphia. I am watching the coverage on 5 networks. No troubles
    ——————————————————————————————————————
    Ummm yeah, Philly tearing down Capitalism one Wawa at a time.

    https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/960398406026977280

  1159. MichiganGuy says:

    Police and civilians have been injured and cars flipped as the strained security forces try to contain the revellers.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/914505/Super-Bowl-2018-Philadelphia-Eagles-fans-riot-city-police-pictures

  1160. MichiganGuy says:

    Super Bowl 2018: EXPLOSION rocks Philadelphia as fans RIOT injuring police after victory

    https://news.populiarno.com/2018/02/05/super-bowl-2018-explosion-rocks-philadelphia-as-fans-riot-injuring-police-after-victory/

  1161. BayernFan says:

    Antifa is right wing?

  1162. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Congrats(Bitter in particular) to all you long suffering Eagles’ fans.It was a great game from start to finish. This is what the NFL could be without the PC.
    Next year, I expect to see the NY Giants celebrate a Super Bowl win—LOL!

  1163. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    February 4, 2018 at 11:49 pm
    Tina – All is well-behaved in Philadelphia. I am watching the coverage on 5 networks. No troubles
    ——————————————————————————————————————
    Fires, mayhem, insane trust falls in Philly after Super Bowl win

    https://nypost.com/2018/02/04/fires-mayhem-insane-trust-falls-in-philly-after-super-bowl-win/

  1164. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    February 4, 2018 at 11:49 pm
    Tina – All is well-behaved in Philadelphia. I am watching the coverage on 5 networks. No troubles
    ——————————————————————————————————————
    Fires burned, cars flipped and street lights came tumbling down as hard-partying Philadelphia fans lived down to their reputation Sunday night and celebrated their first Super Bowl victory.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/rowdy-eagles-fans-start-fires-trash-streets-super-bowl-win-article-1.3799602

  1165. Tina says:

    Maybe, bl was a bit premature, or was mentioning his upper neighborhood, a haven for doctors, lawyers, and other professionals.

  1166. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    22m
    Little Adam Schiff, who is desperate to run for higher office, is one of the biggest liars and leakers in Washington, right up there with Comey, Warner, Brennan and Clapper! Adam leaves closed committee hearings to illegally leak confidential information. Must be stopped!

  1167. BayernFan says:

    Everyone see the guy eating horse chit?

  1168. Tina says:

    THey will taje thebait, insiting that they did not leak, but proving that they did.

  1169. Tina says:

    I read the headline, but would not click onit, bayer.

  1170. JeffP says:

    Trump tweet this a.m. He knows everything…LOL …

    “Little Adam Schiff, who is desperate to run for higher office, is one of the biggest liars and leakers in Washington, right up there with Comey, Warner, Brennan and Clapper! Adam leaves closed committee hearings to illegally leak confidential information. Must be stopped!”

  1171. Tina says:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-memo-and-the-mueller-probe-1517777842

    No crime.

    Trump should refuse to testify since this has become an episode of jerry seinfeld. .

  1172. Tina says:

    The leak during the trump jr trstimony surely came from Schiff for Brains,

    Schiff is russian btw.

    A likely sleeper cell.

  1173. JeffP says:

    #1210…Tina…you probably don’t remember me …but you encouraged me to vote anyway election eve in 2016 when I was depressed about Hitlerally winning. I did vote DJT…never thought he would be as good as he has turned out so far.

    These next few months are going to be crazy.

  1174. Tina says:

    Jeffp, i remember.

    I held my nose too and vited against hillary.

    Btw, the wsj article I linked was written by mukasey, bushs former ag.

  1175. Tina says:

    The wiretap on page is especially troubling since he is an american citizen and there has been no ecidence that he is a spy. If you recall, they said he traveled to russia, or in 2013, he appleared to help the fbi in a matter. Thise are not evidence of being a spy, a requirement under 702.

    Of more consequence is that the wiretap of page would ensuee anybody in his circle. Anybody, ie the President elect.

  1176. Tina says:

    And we get mccabes testimony that withoutmthe dossier no wirtap into page.

    Mukasey raises serious concerns about fisa.

  1177. Tina says:

    Here, none of the charges Mr. Mueller has brought thus far involved “coordination” or “collusion” with the Russians. Mike Flynn and George Papadopoulos both pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI, the latter over the timing of conversations with Russians in which he was allegedly offered but never received “dirt” on Mrs. Clinton, including her emails. He also attempted to set up a meeting between the Russians and Mr. Trump, but the campaign blew off that effort. Notably, Mr. Papadopoulos did not plead guilty to participating in any plot that involved “coordination.” The Paul Manafort and Rick Gates indictments charge fraud on the government through receipt of and failure to disclose payments from a pro-Russian Ukraine politician.

    Mukaseys waj article..

  1178. JC says:

    ‘Complete-the-dang-fence’ McCain proposed a bill that strips wall funding and offers amnesty to illegals?

    Shocking.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=r0lwusMxiHc

  1179. Bitterlaw says:

    MG – Should anybody from Michigan comment on the behavior of other fans? You must not know what happens in Detroit when teams win OR lose.

    The destruction was inexcusable but minor. The perps should be convicted. Put a million fans on the street and 100 will act like idiots.

  1180. Tina says:

    It is always a tiny group of idiots that do that, bl. Always.

  1181. Bitterlaw says:

    When I posted that there were no problems, there were none report d. This morning, I heard about some traffic poles, a few broken windows, and a hotel awning that collapsed because fans climbed on it.

    Not good but not Detroit when the Bad Boys were winning titles.

  1182. jason says:

    There was vandalism and mayhem in Bird-in-Hand too. At least three beer bottles were found on the street and several people were woken up by firecrackers.

  1183. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Can you check on the Gap Diner? It can get wild there.

  1184. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Bitter
    Today is a day for you to gloat. Pay no attention to any negativity. CELEBRATE!!! Use PINK as your example.

    https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2018/02/05/tweet-of-the-game-superbowl-national-anthem-singer-pink-drops-heavy-mic-on-hater/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

  1185. DW says:

    Any overturned horses and buggies in Amish country?

  1186. jason says:

    I told Amos Stoltzfuss this morning that the Eagles had won the Superbowl.

    He said eagles sometimes perch on the top his barn but his cows don’t like the screeching.

  1187. mnw says:

    I liked the Australia ad, with Paul Hogan’s cameo.

    Made me want to visit Oz, so I guess it achieved it’s goal.

  1188. JC says:

    JeffP says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:05 am
    Trump tweet this a.m. He knows everything…LOL …

    “Little Adam Schiff, who is desperate to run for higher office, is one of the biggest liars and leakers in Washington, right up there with Comey, Warner, Brennan and Clapper! Adam leaves closed committee hearings to illegally leak confidential information. Must be stopped!”
    —————————

    Notice the names Trump lumped with Schiff. ‘Comey, Warner, Brennan and Clapper’.

    He knows what’s coming.

  1189. JC says:

    Ras at 49 again.

  1190. mnw says:

    I wish he would not tweet.

    I wish we had world peace & free prime rib too.

  1191. jason says:

    I asked Amos if he had ever been to Philadelphia.

    He said no, but he has been to Lancaster and York and heard the Bishop once had to go to Harrisburg on church business.

    I told him the football fans broke lampposts and windows last night and he said “the English are crazy”.

  1192. jason says:

    I thought the Jeep Wrangler ad was the best ad.

  1193. jason says:

    The one crossing the river.

  1194. mnw says:

    I thought the Tide ad was brilliant & very funny.

  1195. Tina says:

    Yeah, they know whais coming. Look what they did.

    Nbc puts brennan as an nbc commentator.

    Cnn hires the fbi guy that resigned, john campbell, comedys former press person.

  1196. Tina says:

    Look for the penguin to be hired by abc soon

  1197. Phil says:

    The Jeep ad

  1198. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    February 5, 2018 at 8:37 am
    MG – Should anybody from Michigan comment on the behavior of other fans? You must not know what happens in Detroit when teams win OR lose.——————————————————————————————————————
    At least we don’t throw batteries. 😉

    http://www.businessinsider.com/why-do-philadelphia-fans-throw-batteries-2018-2

  1199. Tina says:

    Mccains daca amnesty bill is doa.

    Trump just tweeted this

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    14m
    Any deal on DACA that does not include STRONG border security and the desperately needed WALL is a total waste of time. March 5th is rapidly approaching and the Dems seem not to care about DACA. Make a deal!

  1200. Phil says:

    Schiff is really throwing around the BS. Told Stephanopolis that the criticism of the FBI is dangerous because it makes another Oklahoma City bombing more likely. Yeah, he really said that. According to him if you have lost confidence in the FBI due to all the criticism of those at the top, you are less likely to report your neighbor’s hording of large amounts of fertilizer in which to make explosives.

    Yes, he really spewed that garbage.

  1201. Bitterlaw says:

    I thought the Ram truck ad that used MLK’s speech was a disgrace. Slain civil rights heroes should not be used to sell things.

  1202. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzzzzzz. Any article that mentions the 1967 incident involving snowballs and a skinny drunk Santa is not worth the time to read it.

    At least we don’t toss an octopus on the ice during hockey games.

  1203. jason says:

    SB riots a “glaring example of white privilege”

    n the aftermath of the chaos that erupted in Philadelphia as Eagles fans tore through the streets celebrating their Super Bowl victory, many could not help but notice the difference in how the public and officials reacted to riots by fans compared to those prompted by civil unrest.
    “Somehow, it seems there’s a line drawn in the sand where destruction of property because of a sports victory is okay and acceptable in America. However, if you have people who are fighting for their most basic human right, the right to live, they will be condemned,” Black Lives Matter New York President Hawk Newsome told Newsweek”

    Translation: because some Eagle fans destroyed some property after winning the SB for the first time, BLM should be allowed to destroy property everyday.

  1204. Tina says:

    Schiff for brains is upset that he got caught leaking to cnn

  1205. J. Cutler says:

    Happy Birthday BL!!!

  1206. jason says:

    Eagle fans destroying property are a bunch of a-holes.

    But Bitter is right that they are no better or worse than property destroying a-holes in other cities.

  1207. Tina says:

    I posted this already, but here is mcarthys response to the drat counter memo, leaked to cnn,

    http://www.nationalreview.com/article/456093/jerrold-nadler-memo-rebuttal-weak-unpersuasive

  1208. jason says:

    Bitter is 50 today?

    Congratulations (this is ok, since Bitter is actually the person turning 50)

    Consider this an I.O.U. for a nice sweater, I will mail it after I research his address.

  1209. Tina says:

    Cari Kelemen ??
    @KelemenCari
    “That’s it?”
    – James Comey’s wife
    2:22 PM – Feb 4, 2018

  1210. Phil says:

    Jimmy Kimmel:

    “Almost every talk show host is liberal because it takes a certain amount of intelligence”

    LOL

    Got that? A comedian who reads jokes written by a staff of other writers is a genius.

    Thanks, Jimmy – you arrogant, effete, self important, elitist snob. LOL

  1211. jason says:

    Hey, if the Patriots had played a a real a traditional SB team like the Steelers, Cowboys, Packers, Broncos, etc. the ratings would have been better.

    Zinnnngggggg……

  1212. jason says:

    Should have read a really traditional team…

  1213. jason says:

    Tina – All is well-behaved in Philadelphia. I am watching the coverage on 5 networks. No troubles”

    Fake news.

  1214. Bitterlaw says:

    I bet the SB ratings in the Philadelphia region will astronomical.

  1215. jason says:

    Almost every talk show host is liberal because it takes a certain amount of intelligence”

    Hey Jimmy, how did that “deplorable” angle work out for you guys?

  1216. Tina says:

    No doubt see the link, bl.

  1217. Tina says:

    1) Buffalo, 56.4/78
    2) Philadelphia, 56.2/81
    3) Boston, 55.9/81
    4) Minneapolis-St. Paul, 54.9/82
    5) Pittsburgh, 54.9/73
    6) Norfolk, 53.9/73
    7) New Orleans, 53.0/72
    8) Providence, 52.5/77
    9) Milwaukee, 52.3/73
    10) Tie: Seattle, 52.2/79 Kansas City, 52.2/73

  1218. Tina says:

    According to Rogert .stone, the lawyahs for gen. Flynn are preparing paerwork to drop all charges.

  1219. JulStol says:

    Happy 50th, Bitter.

    Here’s to posting on the HHR until you’re as old as Walt!

  1220. Paul says:

    I was thinking about Gingrich’ statement this morning a day before the big Wikileak dump on Clinton.

    “Estonia is in the suburbs of St. Petersburg. The Russians aren’t gonna necessarily come across the border militarily. The Russians are gonna do what they did in Ukraine,” he said. “I’m not sure I would risk a nuclear war over some place which is the suburbs of St. Petersburg. I think we have to think about what does this stuff mean.”

    I still think there is a connection there. My own personal tinfoil hat.

  1221. Chicon says:

    Can you expand on this “connection?

  1222. Tina says:

    Coach Pederson becomes the 4th playerto win sb rings as hc.

    Reich gets his first sb ring.

  1223. DW says:

    Nice to see Bitter not depressed for one day in a row.

  1224. mnw says:

    One of the local STL sb ads (a certain number of ads are reserved for the local station) was for an anti-opioid abuse organization. It managed to work in a mention of both “white privilege” & “black lives matter,” believe it or not.

    This, from some local non-profit I never heard of. I’m still p*zzed about being subjected to that.

  1225. jason says:

    Hey moron, what connection?

    Newt didn’t work for the campaign or speak for it. His opinion on Russia was as relevant to the campaign as yours, i.e. nada, zilch.

    And of course, Estonia didn’t get invaded and didn’t get annexed.

  1226. Tgca says:

    1267 Paul

    Perceived Connections?

    Is that like the deal Obama cut with Iran to trade money they use to fund terrrism for releasing folks?

    What about the guns apprehended from drug runners in Mexico used to kill US border personnel?

    What about the lies about the tape resulting in Bengazi?

    Seems like a connection there that ties directly to Obama, but I guess at this point, as Hillary screeched “WHAT DOES IT MATTER?”.

  1227. jason says:

    Btw, Finland is as close or closer to St. Petersburg
    as Estonia is, about 100 miles (big suburbs). Is Newt giving the Russians Finland too?

  1228. Mr.Vito says:

    Uh oh… here comes the cavalry.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/05/clinton-associates-fed-information-to-trump-dossier-author-steele-memo-says.html

    The memo from Grassley and Graham, which is now public for the first time, provides new insight into Steele’s circle of contacts during that time. While heavily redacted, the memo states Steele said he received information that came from “a foreign sub-source who ‘is in touch with (redacted), a contact of (redacted), a friend of the Clintons, who passed it to (redacted).”
    grassley graham split

    “It is troubling enough that the Clinton Campaign funded Mr. Steele’s work, but that these Clinton associates were contemporaneously feeding Mr. Steele allegations raises additional concerns about his credibility,” the senators wrote to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the Russia probe, and FBI Director Christopher Wray.

    “…there is substantial evidence suggesting that Mr. Steele materially misled the FBI about a key aspect of his dossier efforts, one which bears on his credibility,” the senators wrote.

  1229. jason says:

    One of the biggest jokes is that Trump colluded with the Russians to get the GOP platform wording changed.

    Of course even Putin knows that the platform is non-binding on the administration and is mostly written to please the activists in both parties, and subsequently ignored.

    Did Obama collude with the Russians to get this into the Democratic Platform in 2012?

    Russia.
    Crucial to achieving all of these objectives has been, and will remain, expanded cooperation with Russia. The Cold War mentality represented by Mitt Romney’s identification of Russia as “our number one geopolitical foe” ignores the very real common interest we share with Russia in reducing nuclear stockpiles, stopping additional proliferation by countries such as Iran and North Korea, and preventing nuclear materials from falling into the hands of terrorists. The President’s “reset” policy toward Russia has produced significant cooperation in these areas, as well as in Russian support for the Northern Distribution Network that supplies our troops in Afghanistan. We support establishing permanent, normal trade relations with Russia because it would be good for the U.S. economy, for U.S. businesses, and for U.S. workers if we do.”

  1230. Tina says:

    The jebots keep looking for the muh russian connection under every rock.

  1231. jason says:

    there is substantial evidence suggesting that Mr. Steele materially misled the FBI about a key aspect of his dossier efforts, one which bears on his credibility,”

    I thought the Messy troll told us Steele was just a “concerned” citizen (as concerned as a non-citizen and paid political hack could be, of course)

  1232. Tina says:

    https://t.co/H0NyYELMOM?amp=1

    Uh oh.

    Payments to ugly ohr, spouse of doj ohr.

    Payments for hire.

  1233. Mr.Vito says:

    FLASHBACK: Chuck Schumer to Trump in January…

    “Let me tell you: You take on the intelligence community — they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you.”

  1234. Paul says:

    What is the connection?
    Likely nothing. That is why I declared it to be my own personal tinfoil hat in the same sentence.

    I just still think it was a pretty odd thing for him to say.

  1235. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1267. “Estonia is in the suburbs of St. Petersburg. The Russians aren’t gonna necessarily come across the border militarily. The Russians are gonna do what they did in Ukraine,” he said. “I’m not sure I would risk a nuclear war over some place which is the suburbs of St. Petersburg. I think we have to think about what does this stuff mean.”

    The border of Estonia is about 85 miles away from St. Petersburg. The border city of Narva is heavily Russian, and about 25% of the population of Estonia is Russian. But the Russians in Estonia are a lot more prosperous than Russians, and do not want to join Russia (although they are proud of being Russian). Russian is an economic pit.

    The Russian Party in Estonia is part of the government. Estonia is in NATO, and has several thousand NATO troops stationed in it. Believe this includes American troops. The Estonians are related to the Finns, a massive amount of Finns travel their to buy cheap liquor.

    Newt should not babble about something he appears to not no much about.

  1236. Paul says:

    OF course, Gingrich likes to say odd things.

  1237. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1281. “I just still think it was a pretty odd thing for him to say.”

    Agree. It was odd and also stupid. It is a delicate situation, and he should not be talking about the U.S. not defending a NATO country, particularly as we may have troops stationed there.

  1238. Tina says:

    Nick Short ??
    Nick Short ??
    @PoliticalShort
    ·
    3m
    Under a contract from the Clinton campaign, Fusion GPS was paying the wife of a senior Department of Justice official (Bruce Ohr) as part of its efforts to gather opposition research on Trump, & Ohr then brought that “research” to the FBI.

  1239. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The U.S. does have troops in Estonia.

    https://www.rt.com/news/376513-us-tanks-arrive-estonia/

  1240. jason says:

    Imagine if when Obama was a candidate, the wife of the deputy attorney general in the Bush administration was being paid by the RNC and the McCain campaign to “gather opposition research” on Obama.

    “A declassified memo said Bruce “Ohr’s wife was employed by Fusion GPS to assist in the cultivation of opposition research on Trump. Ohr later provided the FBI with all of his wife’s opposition research, paid for by the DNC and Clinton campaign via Fusion GPS. The Ohrs’ relationship with Steele and Fusion GPS was inexplicably concealed from the” court when it was used to obtain a surveillance warrant.

    Bruce Ohr was deputy associate attorney general until December. House investigators determined that he met personally with Glenn Simpson, Fusion GPS’ founder.”

  1241. jason says:

    I just still think it was a pretty odd thing for him to say.”

    Not odd, just stupid.

    As one of Trump’s yes men, he was trying to cover for Trump on Trump’s idiotic anti-Nato statements.

    And the thing is, he knew better.

  1242. jason says:

    So Paul, if this had happened, would you have been outraged?

    “Imagine if when Obama was a candidate, the wife of the deputy associate attorney general in the Bush administration was being paid by the RNC and the McCain campaign to “gather opposition research” on Obama, and then shared with her husband to be given to the FBI. Furthermore, not divulging that the deputy associate AG actually met with the paid political hacks when applying for the court order. “

  1243. jason says:

    The U.S. does have troops in Estonia.”

    Just for an orderly transition to the Russians, according to the troll.

  1244. jason says:

    I have not joined the bandwagon here on a lot of the FBI/DOJ bashing mainly because although there seems to be a lot of partisan activity going on, I hadn’t actually seen a smoking gun.

    The Ohr story, however appears to be exactly that. The deputy assistant AG, his wife, and the DNC/Hillary Campaign working together to try to derail the opposition candidate by paying what is in effect a foreign agent.

  1245. mnw says:

    Gallup has Trump JA @ 40% in its weekly poll released today. First time since last May that Trump’s been at 40% or above.

    (Gallup discontinued its daily polls.)

  1246. Chicon says:

    1281 – connection between what parties, for what purpose? If you’re trying to say something, say it.

  1247. Bitterlaw says:

    I am finding difficult to deal with a world where the Eagles do not blow a big game. Everything is turned upside down.

  1248. Bitterlaw says:

    The Eagles may trade Foles. He has one year left on his contract and they are not going to carry both Wentz and Foles in 2019.

    I wonder if Jason would accept him on the Broncos. He can actually throw the ball and speaks openly about his faith.

  1249. Bitterlaw says:

    MCCC

  1250. Bitterlaw says:

    MCCC again

  1251. Chicon says:

    I can relate to this feeling, Bitter. The Cubs winning game 7 was similarly stunning to their long-time fans.

    I’m glad you get to experience the feeling.

  1252. jason says:

    Kaepernick raises money for organization honoring convicted cop killer.

    “Colin Kaepernick said Friday he has raised $20,000 for Assata’s Daughters, named after convicted cop-killer Assata Shakur, through matching donations from his celebrity friends as part of his Million Dollar Pledge. The former San Francisco 49ers quarterback announced that comedian Hannibal Buress and actress Yara Shahidi would both donate $10,000 to Assata’s Daughters, which says it “carries on the tradition of radical liberatory activism encompassed by Assata Shakur.”

  1253. mnw says:

    I read that one Philly fan is eating horse excrement for some reason.

    Is this… customary?

  1254. jason says:

    radical liberatory activism”

    I guess it translates to killing cops.

  1255. Paul says:

    1296: At the time of Gingrich’s statement, Trump and other surrogates said things that was more pro-Russian, less pro-NATO. This all happened within the few days before a large wikileaks dump. My tinfoil hat told me that they were saying these things as a signal for Russia to release the wikileaks. Also the change in the plank on Ukraine happened the week prior to this.

    Now, after a year and a half, nothing else has come of it. So perhaps there was nothing there. Or perhaps we’ll learn more once Mueller wraps up.

  1256. jason says:

    Foles can play for the Broncos.

    Kaepernick no.

    Next question?

  1257. Cash Cow TM says:

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO BITTER!

    He should now no longer be considered just another young HHR whippersnapper, but now an esteemed and venerable HHR statesman.

  1258. jason says:

    Also the change in the plank on Ukraine happened the week prior to this.”

    I see. So Putin helped Trump get elected in exchange for a change in the GOP platform regarding Ukraine, when he knows the platform is non-binding and completely meaningless as pertains to the future foreign policy of the administration and in effect has been ignored by every administration Dem or Rep.

    This is brilliant, Paul, have you considered working for Fusion GPS?

  1259. jason says:

    Hey Walt, are you inviting Bitter to join the HOBOS?

  1260. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This can happen to a bad guy in a state with over 670,000 concealed weapon holders.

    “Man carrying concealed pistol stops attack on Utah police officer

    I carry a gun to protect me and those around me, but primarily I carry a gun to protect my family first and foremost,” Meyer, who has a concealed-carry permit, told FOX13. “Outside of that, if I were to use my gun to protect anyone it would be law enforcement or military personnel.”

    Meyer aimed the pistol at Anderson and yelled at him to stop attacking the officer. Anderson bolted from the scene as responding officers arrived. The attacker, who was found hiding under a flatbed trailer, was arrested and faces several charges, according to FOX13. The officer suffered a fractured eye socket and lacerations around his eye.”

  1261. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1305. “My tinfoil hat told me that they were saying these things as a signal for Russia to release the wikileaks. Also the change in the plank on Ukraine happened the week prior to this.”

    How long have you been talking to you tinfoil hat? How is its weather forecasts?

    Ukraine is a very complex situation. I actually believe Clinton/Obama made very serious policy mistakes, which created the current mess. When the crisis began, there should have been immediate discussions begun with the Russians about how to mutually resolve it. We played a weak card, and Putin took advantage of it. When Obama drew the “line in the sand” in Syria, and withdrew from it — it showed the world he was a push over. Putin knew this an he took advantage of it in the Ukraine.

  1262. Bitterlaw says:

    I am not joining the HOBOs. I may be officially old but I’m not THAT old.

  1263. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1305. Paul, you might have noticed that Trump has surrounded himself with retired military generals, and has received strong support from the leaders of Eastern European countries. This is hard to explain if you believe Trump was selling them out.

  1264. Paul says:

    1313: I don’t think he sold Eastern Europe out. I think they may have played the Russians by saying things they wanted to hear in order to get their help.

  1265. Paul says:

    I’ve got two years until I hit 50, so I can keep saying crazy crap until then.

  1266. jason says:

    think they may have played the Russians by saying things they wanted to hear in order to get their help.”

    Ah ok.

    But nothing illegal about that, would you agree?

    Saying things you think other countries want to hear in order to get their help has a name.

    It’s called diplomacy.
    It’s called diplomacy.

  1267. jason says:

    Hmmm, where is my coffee?

  1268. jason says:

    I’ve got two years until I hit 50, so I can keep saying crazy crap until then.”

    You should start practicing now, for an addict like you its going to be really hard to quit cold turkey.

  1269. Redmen4ever says:

    Very cool about the ethnic Russian party being part of the government in Estonia. There are ways to handle the fact that ethnicities spill over borders. Such things happen all over the world. To upset borders because of the spilling over of ethnicities is to invite endless wars. But, if we’re talking a shifting a border a little this way or a little that way BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THERE (not outsiders) WANT IT, this shouldn’t touch off a war either. I sincerely doubt the Center Party wants to lose its members to Russia which would dilute its strength in Estonia.

    By the way, the Center Party is one of the country’s two largest party, and enjoys the support of most ethnic Russian Estonians. The Center Party’s coalition partners are the (center-left) Social Democrats and the (center-right) Pro Patria Party. All three other parties in the parliament of Estonia are center-right parties.

  1270. jason says:

    I am not joining the HOBOs. I may be officially old but I’m not THAT old.”

    It’s impolite to turn down offers from someone as old as Walt.

  1271. Redmen4ever says:

    Obama’s handling of Ukraine – what a disaster! It didn’t stand out because it was just one of many.

    Now that we cleared ISIS off the board, and also Iraw, we can deal with Afghanistan, Syria, Ukraine, central Africa, Yemen, North Korea and Venezuela. But, it might take Trump another six or eight months.

  1272. jason says:

    Obama endorsed Macron for President of France.

    Are they doing an inquiry over there to find out if Macron colluded with Obama to get him to endorse him?

  1273. Redmen4ever says:

    The “w” is a misprint. I’ll let you decide what is the correct letter.

  1274. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1314. “313: I don’t think he sold Eastern Europe out. I think they may have played the Russians by saying things they wanted to hear in order to get their help.”

    Way don’t you write a dossier about it? Then the FBI can use it to get a whole bunch of wiretaps, saying it is from a reliable source.

  1275. jason says:

    I read that one Philly fan is eating horse excrement for some reason.

    Is this… customary?”

    Only on SB wins.

    Hardly customary.

  1276. Paul says:

    1324: Will do.

  1277. jason says:

    To upset borders because of the spilling over of ethnicities is to invite endless wars. But, if we’re talking a shifting a border a little this way or a little that way BECAUSE THE PEOPLE THERE (not outsiders) WANT IT, this shouldn’t touch off a war either.”

    Sorry, this is BS and an excuse for the Russians to keep grabbing land that isn’t theirs.

    It’s the strategy Hitler took to start WWII, and we know that trying to appease him didn’t exactly work out. Nor will it work with Putin.

    NATO exists for a reason, and borders are not “adjustable” to accommodate the Russians.

    You don’t to create new borders because of “ethnic spillovers” unless you are in favor of giving the Southwest and California back to Mexico or Quebec back to France.

    That should be made clear so there are no misunderstandings.

  1278. jason says:

    I hope this catches on and more of the MSM follows suit.

    “Newsweek on Monday fired all of its top staff amid turmoil that has upended the newsroom.

    In a company meeting, several editors announced that the outlet had fired Editor in Chief Bob Roe, Executive Editor Ken Li and reporters Celeste Katz, Josh Saul, and International Business Times editor Josh Keefe.”

  1279. JeffP says:

    #1287…That cartoon is great Tina.

    What troubles me is the minimization from some people on the right regarding the Clinton paid dossier used by the FBI. The left & mom have completely overplayed their hand.

    Just heard Trump in Ohio on the radio…gloating how WE caught them…LOL.

  1280. JC says:

    Looks like the Hawaii missile alert guy got hired to run the DOW board!

  1281. JC says:

    Or maybe the RUSSIANS hacked the markets.

  1282. DW says:

    Someone on RRH pointing out the interesting fact that the Berlin Wall has now been down, as long as it was up. I feel old.

  1283. jason says:

    Proud ObamaCON is still hoping for the return of the Berlin Wall, those were the good old days.

    Poor bastard never got over the breakup of the Soviet Union.

  1284. Tina says:

    NUnes has 5 more memos to release.

    This does not include anything from grassley and the other committee.

    Plus the oig report.

  1285. Tina says:

    President Trump: We Caught ‘Em!
    “Did we catch them in the act or what? You know what I’m talking about. Oh did we catch them in the act! They are very embarrassed. They never thought they were going to be caught. We caught ’em… It’s so much fun. We’re like the great sleuth.”
    11:58 AM – Feb 5, 2018

    Boom

  1286. Tina says:

    Nick Short ??
    Nick Short ??
    @PoliticalShort
    ·
    21m
    -Michael Isikoff used Christopher Steele as a source for his reporting at Yahoo! News.

    -Isikoff refers to Steele as a “well-placed Western Intelligence source” in reporting.

    -FBI uses Isikoff’s report to corroborate the Steele Dossier to FISA.

  1287. Tina says:

    Deputy Press Secretary Raj Shah told reporters on Air Force One Monday that President Trump’s attorneys have already approved the idea of appointing a second special counsel to investigate the FBI and Justice Department’s actions during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to White House pool reports.

    Shah also said that the White House will approach further memos, including the one created by Democrats, in the same way they handled the memo authored by Devin Nunes: “Which is to allow for a legal review, national security review led by the White House Counsel’s Office, and then within five days the president will make a decision about declassifying it,” said Shah.

    2nd sc to be appointed soon?

  1288. DW says:

    1333 – and this no doubt was his worst ever sports moments:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_on_Ice

  1289. Paul says:

    Trump declares himself treasonous and unAmerican in speech in Ohio.

  1290. DW says:

    I recall years ago on HHR having a debate with someone who downplayed the ‘miracle’ aspect of the 1980 USA hockey team’s shocking victory over the USSR. I get that its not a ‘miracle’ in the technical sense. But as sports upsets go, it was at the top of the list.

    My debating opponent pointed to the later successful NHL careers some of the USA players enjoyed as evidence they were very capable of defeating the USSR.

    But that has to be taken into context. These players were mostly 20-22 years old and still developing their skills. They had only been together as a team for about half a year.

    The Soviets were a battle-hardened veteran team with arguably the best players in the world.

    Just a couple of weeks before the epic upset the same Soviet team overpowered the upstart USA team in an exhibition game in MSG in NYC. It was like a cat playing with a dead mouse.

    So bad was the thrashing, the USA team openly talked about their chances in Lake Placid being that of somehow getting a bronze, and if they had everything go their way, they could dream of a possible silver. Gold was not possible. The Soviets could not be beaten.

  1291. DW says:

    And the Soviet team had also defeated the NHL All-stars in an exhibition.

  1292. Cash Cow TM says:

    I think it is imperative that we appoint a special prosecutor to investivate the special prosecutor who is investingating Trump and perhaps other special prosecutors.

    I nominate Walt to head that.

  1293. DW says:

    Furthermore, in other Olympic play, the Soviets defeated Sweden 9-2 for the silver medal. When the USA team played Sweden, they managed only a 2-2 tie after pulling their goalie in the final minute to get an extra attacker so they could score to tie in the final seconds.

  1294. DW says:

    And given that USA defeated the USSR 4-3, the only USA goal scored that looked conventional was Eruzione goal that put the USA up 4-3. Eruzione picked up a loose puck, used a Soviet defender to screen their goalie and fired it in for a 4-3 lead.

    But their first three goals were:

    1) A long slap-shot from Buzz Schneider that the Soviet goaltender stops 99 times out of 100. Somehow he missed it.

    2) The first period was ending. 5 seconds left and the USA fired the puck from beyond the center line just to force the Soviets to make an easy save. Several Soviet and USA players already were headed to the bench. As the Soviet goalie waited for the puck, USA’s Mark Johnson kept playing, sprinting down the ice on the 1/500 chance the puck is somehow misplayed. Not only did the Soviet goalie misplay it, he booted it right onto Johnson’s stick and the shot snapped the net with 1 second remaining. the first period ended 2-2, with both USA goals flukes.

    3) Trailing 3-2 not quite half way through the third period, the attacking USA play broke apart as they lost the puck well out in front of the Soviet net. A Soviet defender picked it up, only to have to slide inexplicably off his stick and behind him, landing unexpectedly on Johnson’s stick as he was charging toward the net. His shot tied the game 3-3.

    USA coach Herb Brooks was right to say if they play the game 10 times, the Soviets win 9.

    Probably also true that if they played 50 times, the Soviets win 49.

  1295. Messy57 says:

    I blame Trump for the stock market’s last three days. Yeah, it came back from down 16oo points, but it fell to -1170 again.

  1296. Waingro says:

    Brutal loss last night for my Pats, but I know they are a bunch of long suffering Eagles fans on here, especially Bitter, who I can’t help but feel happy for. Congrats.

    I have a feeling there will be a rematch one year from now. Looking forward to it!

  1297. DW says:

    Jimmy Carter was eager to capitalize on the national spirit being lifted by the miracle on ice, but of course it was nowhere near enough to save him.

  1298. walt says:

    My wife got a notice from the teachers retirement board.

    Because of the federal tax cut, she will now be getting $139 more in her retirement check each month.
    **************************************************
    I have not gotten my notice yet from TRS, but $1,668 less in Mrs. Walt’s F.I.T. is not peanuts.

  1299. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1345
    Why, you cretin?

  1300. Redmen4ever says:

    Thx Jason for the reasoned comment. I suppose this means you oppose East Timur, South Sudan and Kosovo being independent.

    For that matter, also the Republic of Texas and the United States of America.

    I’m for figuring out who gets to own what roads and bridges and other public infrastructure, and who gets to be responsible for what national debt. Bring in the accountants and their clipboards.

    Let’s be civilized about this, like the Czech Rep. and Slovakia. Or, let’s think about this very seriously like Quebec and Scotland.

    BTW who conducted a plebiscite in Crimea or the other places Russia invaded?

  1301. jason says:

    BTW who conducted a plebiscite in Crimea or the other places Russia invaded?

    Good question, that is why pacifist and isolationist horsecrap doesn’t work.

    I suppose this means you oppose East Timur, South Sudan and Kosovo being independent.”

    Zzzzzzzz….. great straw argument, but read your history first. The former Yugoslavia was an artificially created country that could only be kept together by a communist dictator like Tito, has NOTHING to do with Russia trying to re-create the Soviet Union.

  1302. jason says:

    Timor was a former Portuguese colony that the Portuguese relinquished and that the Indonesians wanted to annex.

    Actually supports my argument since the Indonesians were finally forced to give up the annexation.

    Again, nothing to do with Estonia.

  1303. Diamond Jim says:

    Because of the federal tax cut, she will now be getting $139 more in her retirement check each month.

    Stogie money?

  1304. jason says:

    I blame Trump for the stock market’s last three days.”

    Excellent, the trolls admit Trump is responsible for everything good that is happening in the economy.

    Baby steps, baby steps.

  1305. hugh says:

    This morning i put in an order in my k plan to move 150k from cash fund to stocks. I was waiting for a good time. My total luck it tanked further today. It will come back soon enough and I bought low. I had way to much out of the market from lack of attention. I am still way ahead due to trump.

  1306. jason says:

    That hockey game was indeed the classic David vs. Goliath story.

    And whoever was arguing with you was a moron.

    Yes, some of those players went on to be pros, but that game is what gave them the CHANCE, they certainly were not yet at that level.

  1307. jason says:

    Jimmy Carter was eager to capitalize on the national spirit being lifted by the miracle on ice, but of course it was nowhere near enough to save him.”

    Of course not, the “malaise” speech had already defined him.

  1308. DW says:

    And of course Al Michaels has one of the greatest ever calls: “Do you believe in miracles? YES!”

    And then he wisely stayed silent allowing the pictures to tell the story. Words were not needed.

  1309. Mr.Vito says:

    Did the MSM rediscover the stock market today?

  1310. jason says:

    “Tom Brady is catching heat on Monday morning for not shaking hands with opposing quarterback Nick Foles on his Super Bowl victory.”

  1311. DW says:

    1359 – just like they rediscovered homelessness the day after Trump was sworn in.

  1312. jason says:

    Did the MSM rediscover the stock market today?”

    Yeah, but its just a coincidence they ignored it while it was going up and just happened to notice it went down today.

  1313. DW says:

    1357 – Carter on energy crisis: You wanna stay warm? Put on a sweater.

    What leadership!

  1314. mnw says:

    Trump spox, Gingrich & others have been preaching to GOP candidates, “Don’t tout the DOW! Tout jobs & wages!”

    They were saying that when the averages were setting new record highs, too.

  1315. jason says:

    Colts linebacker Edwin Jackson killed by drunk driver in a horrific accident where a body was flung to the middle lane of I-70 and run over by a state trooper.

    Who also didn’t have a driver’s license.

    Who also was an undocumented alien.

    Who also has already been deported twice.

  1316. Messy57 says:

    1350. Slovakia was demanding more from the Czech Republic while threatening to secede so the latter said, “if you want to leave, go, I quit.”

    1359. Nope. CNBC is better than Fox Business. My cousin has a Bloomburg machine. I use it sometimes.

  1317. JeffP says:

    A warning shot from award winning reporter Sara Carter. She has all the inside dirt.

    https://saraacarter.com/nunes-hpsci-continue-oversight/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

  1318. NYCmike says:

    “I recall years ago on HHR having a debate with someone who downplayed the ‘miracle’ aspect of the 1980 USA hockey team’s shocking victory over the USSR.”

    -The discussion I recall centered on IF the American soccer team could win a World Cup, that such a victory would be MORE OF A MIRACLE than the hockey miracle.

    I said YES, IT WOULD BE, and had several reasons, one of them being that the United States had already won a gold medal in hockey, in 1960.

  1319. NYCmike says:

    Mind you, I did not DOWNPLAY anything, if I was the one debating.

  1320. jason says:

    Heh…

    “Congressman Adam Schiff insisted to Jim Sciutto that the FISA court which approved a surveillance warrant on Carter Page, knew the Steele dossier was a partisan document”

  1321. jason says:

    I guess Messy Troll and Schiff didn’t coordinate the talking points.

  1322. jason says:

    DW, I said whomever you were debating with must have been a moron.

    NYC just logged in to say it was him.

  1323. jason says:

    jason says:
    February 5, 2018 at 5:55 pm

    And whoever was arguing with you was a moron.

    NYCmike says:
    February 5, 2018 at 7:15 pm

    Mind you, I did not DOWNPLAY anything, if I was the one debating”

    I love this place.

  1324. Mr.Vito says:

    If you are keeping score, then, is okay to bring a partisan document to a secret court, but it is a constitutional crisis to release a partisan memo saying that it happened.

  1325. Mr.Vito says:

    Team USA is full of professional soccer players… if they win a World Cup it will likely be because they are better than the other teams… not a miracle.

  1326. Mr.Vito says:

    Just like the women’s team.

  1327. jason says:

    The last sentence is interesting..

    Byron York:

    “..and Obama State Department official Jonathan Winer was a connection between Steele and the State Department during the 2016 campaign.”

    So there was a “connection” between the State Dept and a foreign agent digging up dirt on the opposition candidate? Hello?

    “The newly released document is an unclassified and heavily redacted version of the criminal referral targeting Steele filed on Jan. 4 by Republican Sens. Chuck Grassley of Iowa and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina. It appears to confirm some level of coordination between the extended Clinton circle and the Obama administration in the effort to seek damaging information about then-candidate Trump.

    According to the referral, Steele wrote the additional memo based on anti-Trump information that originated with a foreign source. In a convoluted scheme outlined in the referral, the foreign source gave the information to an unnamed associate of Hillary and Bill Clinton, who then gave the information to an unnamed official in the Obama State Department, who then gave the information to Steele. Steele wrote a report based on the information, but the redacted version of the referral does not say what Steele did with the report after that.

    Published accounts in the Guardian and the Washington Post have indicated that Clinton associate Cody Shearer was in contact with Steele about anti-Trump research, and Obama State Department official Jonathan Winer was a connection between Steele and the State Department during the 2016 campaign.”

  1328. Mr.Vito says:

    Jason, is that the memo in 1275?

  1329. jason says:

    The MSM doesn’t think there is a problem with all these “connections” between government agencies and paid political hacks with a partisan goal, completely described and verified.

    The problem is “collusion” between Trump and the Russians of which nobody has yet seen a shred of evidence.

  1330. jason says:

    Yes, same memo, but the State Dept connection wasn’t in that article.

  1331. Bitterlaw says:

    I read that one Philly fan is eating horse excrement for some reason. Is this… customary?

    No. We usually eat crow.

  1332. Bitterlaw says:

    I am listening to Boston sports radio. The host and callers are roasting Hoodie for not playing Malcolm Butler on defense.

  1333. Tina says:

    Yeah, another connection, this time involving muh russia, trump, and the department of liberal state.

    I focused mainly on the unjustice dept.

    But this is new with the dos and francois kerry, But do not forget the un ambassador and her million un masking requests, very unsuual for her to be doing that.

  1334. Tina says:

    So, what are the food things to get at wawa. I beleive I tried ine in dc or baltimore several years ago.

  1335. Tina says:

    There is also a hiccup now between wray and grassley, He wants his memo to be unredacted and the fbi says no,

  1336. Tina says:

    This is the redacted memo that grassley got back.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/370822027/Grassley-Memo-Fusion-GPS-and-Christopher-Steele

    He is asking wray to unredact this memo by tomorow.

  1337. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.philly.com/philly/super-bowl-lii/eagles-players-white-house-super-bowl-2018-trump-20180205.html

    Zzzzzzzzzz This does not change anything for me. The Eagles gave me my greatest moment as a sports fan. If they want to express their First Amendment rights, even in a way that I would not, I don’t care.

  1338. Tina says:

    This is the letter that vrassley and goober sent to the fbi c9mtaining the criminal referal for steele.

  1339. Mr.Vito says:

    Steele was AWOL for a deposition in London where hes being sued by a firm named in the dossier.

  1340. Mr.Vito says:

    “Meanwhile, records obtained and reviewed by Fox News from related civil ligitation in Florida reveal that Steele maintains that even showing up for a deposition would “implicate state secrets in London.”

    Fray-Witzer stressed in that hearing that the British government “has not asserted” Steele’s claims. The attorney has said Steele “is asserting he can’t speak about things. We have pointed out that he’s spoken to anyone who is willing to listen, every journalist, and the FBI.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/02/05/christopher-steele-is-no-show-in-london-court-in-civil-case-over-dossier.html

    Sounds legit.

  1341. DW says:

    The 1960 USA gold medal in Hockey was also unexpected, but nowhere near the update of 1980, when the Soviet machine had won so many Olympics in a row and beat up everyone they played, including the NHL all-stars.

  1342. DW says:

    *upset of 1980

  1343. MichiganGuy says:

    The End of Newsweek? .

    Chaos roiled the Newsweek offices Monday with the firings of the editor in chief, his deputy and at least one of the reporters who had been working on stories critical of the newsmagazine’s parent company.
    Johnathan Davis, the co-founder of Newsweek Media Group, ordered the firing of top editor Bob Roe, Roe’s deputy editor Ken Li and reporter Celeste Katz, a source said.
    Two other reporters — Josh Saul and Josh Keefe — saw their company email accounts disabled. Keefe ultimately kept his job. Saul’s status was unclear.
    Katz, Saul and Keefe had been writing about an ongoing investigation of the company by the Manhattan district attorney’s office. Their stories said it was a financial fraud investigation that started about a year and a half ago.
    In addition to that investigation, Newsweek placed Chief Content Officer Dayan Candappa on leave in recent weeks after allegations that he repeatedly sexually harassed a woman while he was a top official at Reuters. The company hired a law firm to investigate Candappa’s conduct. The three reporters had written stories about that scandal as well.

    http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-newsweek-fired-20180205-story.html

  1344. jason says:

    Right, the guy is a media whore but doesn’t want to implicate state secrets.

    Okayyyy….

  1345. jason says:

    I thought Newsweek had died when somebody overpaid a dollar for them.

  1346. Mr.Vito says:

    Suppose Trump Jr. really had gotten oppo research from his meeting with the Russians and used it in exactly the same way?

  1347. jason says:

    “As Fox News has reported based upon review of British court records, Steele promoted and met with five media outlets repeatedly between the spring and fall of 2016. At the same time, Steele also was meeting with the FBI in Rome, according to reports.”

  1348. DW says:

    But there is no way the USA winning a world cup in soccer would be a greater upset than the USA over USSR in hockey in 1980. Not even close.

  1349. Diamond Jim says:

    😛

  1350. Bitterlaw says:

    MCD

  1351. Diamond Jim says:

    MCD

  1352. Bitterlaw says:

    Yes!

  1353. Diamond Jim says:

    I let you get it on account it’s your birthday.

  1354. Bitterlaw says:

    I will take it, DJ.

  1355. Albert Hodges says:

    Happy birthday, Bitter!

    Long life with great health and all of God’s good blessings for to you, your family and all those you hold dear.

  1356. NYCmike says:

    “Team USA is full of professional soccer players…”

    “But there is no way the USA winning a world cup in soccer would be a greater upset than the USA over USSR in hockey in 1980. Not even close.”

    -The 1960 Olympic GOLD MEDAL hockey team called, and they said “Nevermind us, 1980 was one-in-a-million! Oh, and please let us know when our nation’s soccer team comes anywhere close to SNIFFING, let alone WINNING, the World Cup. Thanks in advance. Have fun with your time machine.”

  1357. CG says:

    From what I have always understood, the 1980 Soviet National team was considered an unbeatable machine, and that would not have been the case in 1980.

    The American team in 1980, consisting solely of amateurs beat an international juggernaut, and a team at the time considered better than any NHL team even.

    If the Mens Soccer team ever makes it back to a World Cup and wins, it would be a big story, but hardly on the scale of the “Miracle on Ice” because so many Americans play soccer (why I don’t know) and the talent pool is so big and the players will all be professionals, who had played in elite international leagues.

    The Buster Douglas victory over Mike Tyson is probably the closest thing on par to the U.S. beating the Soviets in 1980.

  1358. CG says:

    not the case in 1960..

  1359. jason says:

    Hey Albert long time no see.

    Is Trump making your life great again?

  1360. jason says:

    DW and Corey are correct.

    The 1960 win was nothing like 1980.

    And winning a World Cup would be momentous, but the US reached the quarter finals in 2002, losing a narrow 1-0 to Germany.

    The Miracle on Ice was probably the greatest upset of any major sports tournament ever.

  1361. Mr.Vito says:

    You aren’t making sense. From 1920-1960, US Hockey participated in 8 Olympics and medaled in 7 of them… they were DQed in the other one.

    From 1962-1998, they medaled twice, and only made it to the semifinals one other time.

    Winning in 1960 has nothing to do with whether what happened in 1980 was a miracle.

    The US women’s team has won three World Cups. The US will win a Men’s World Cup when America starts to give a rip about men’s soccer, and it will not be a miracle.

  1362. jason says:

    The Soviet Union and East Germany teams were not amateurs, they were usually listed as “soldiers”, so the Soviet Block had a huge advantage, the whole world competed with amateurs while they competed with pros.

    It was one of the reasons the Olympic Committee was forced to give up on the “amateur” concept.

  1363. jason says:

    Mr. Vito is also correct.

    Usually I am the only one correct, it’s hard to cope with so many correct opinions.

  1364. NYCmike says:

    “The American team in 1980, consisting solely of amateurs”

    -I believe it was like 13 or 14 of them had professional careers.

    I don’t understand why any of you would take my argument as being a diminishing of the “miracle” that it was…..BUT, the simple fact is that our hockey team actually had a history, the U.S.A. had a professional sports league for a good while (50 years or so), and had also won an Olympics Gold Medal already.

    When it comes to soccer, our current professional league is MAYBE 3rd tier if compared to others around Europe and So America, and even our stars are NOT top echelon players.

    Either way, I can remember EVERY MINUTE of those 1980 games as my whole family watched whatever we could on our 13″ Sony Trinitron! GREAT TIMES!

  1365. NYCmike says:

    And please, women winning World Cups has no comparative value to mens. None. NADA. ZILCH.

    If anything, the U.S. has been at the forefront of getting more women sports across the world, where as men have always competed from most countries.

  1366. CG says:

    They may have went on to be pros afterwards, but at the time of the Olympics, they were all amateurs and/or college kids, unlike the Soviet team they beat.

  1367. CG says:

    In 1980, the percentage of Americans in the NHL was probably pretty low, certainly lower than now. At least 3/4 of NHL players at the time were probably Canadian.

  1368. NYCmike says:

    Definitely lower than now.

    And 8 had good careers, the others had just spotty seasons here and there.

  1369. Bitterlaw says:

    Did the Soviet team beat Tom Brady? No.

  1370. CG says:

    They were content in beating Hillary

  1371. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/02/05/house-intelligence-committee-votes-unanimously-this-time-to-release-democrats-memo/

    -In other news…..unanimity when it came to the Democrat memo……will the media notice the difference?

  1372. Mr.Vito says:

    “And please, women winning World Cups has no comparative value to mens.”

    You don’t seem to understand how the reference was used.

    “If anything, the U.S. has been at the forefront of getting more women sports across the world…”

    And there’s the point… the US is not a half-century behind in women’s soccer like it is in men’s soccer because of baseball, basketball, and football.

    When the men win (if ever for the reasons mentioned), it will not be because they surprised everyone. It will be because they have better professional athletes.

  1373. NYCmike says:

    “They were content in beating Hillary”

    -Just ridiculous……”CG”, tell HHR who will give the “Republican response” for the SOTU next year….

  1374. Bitterlaw says:

    The Philadelphia Flyersbeat the crap out of the Soviet team before 1980.

    I think the USA defeat of the Reds in 1980 was truly amazing. The final call of that game always gives me chills.

  1375. Mr.Vito says:

    The Cubs did not need a miracle to win in 2016.

    Frankly, it is the first time in 70+ years that they were better than everyone else.

  1376. NYCmike says:

    ” It will be because they have better professional athletes.”

    -That is where I think you are wrong…..people knew we could compete ATHLETICALLY in 1980…they thought we could not compete as a team.

    Herb Brooks PURPOSEFULLY left very good individual players off of the team because they would not put aside their individual goals for the team. Athletically, our players, as they had shown in previous Olympics (even in 1976, came in 5th), could compete individually.

    The main factor in the Soviet Unions dominance was they had played together as a team for years, NOT THEIR ATHLETICISM.

  1377. NYCmike says:

    “I think the USA defeat of the Reds in 1980 was truly amazing. The final call of that game always gives me chills.”

    -So do i.

  1378. NYCmike says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nR3reKPE5Y

    -I wonder….how many of you have done this……and puked after about 25 minutes of it..? I know I have.

  1379. Mr.Vito says:

    “That is where I think you are wrong…”

    Well the rest of what you wrote shows you took my statement wrong: It will be because they have better professional athletes [than they do now]. As I said, right now, they are not even good enough to have this conversation.

    “Herb Brooks PURPOSEFULLY left very good individual players off of the team… The main factor in the Soviet Unions dominance was they had played together as a team for years…”

    You seem to be undermining your case.

  1380. Mr.Vito says:

    How about this?

    Yes, if the US had won the World Cup this year, it would have been a bigger shock to the small portion of the country that cares compared to the entire country when US Hockey beat the Soviets during the Cold War.

  1381. Mr.Vito says:

    Of course, since they couldn’t even manage to make the 32 qualifying teams, so what?

  1382. Mr.Vito says:

    It will also be a bigger miracle if monkeys fly out Trump’s overcoat and consume Robert Mueller.

  1383. Mr.Vito says:

    DW, please rank the top 10 miracles of Jesus for us.

    GO!

  1384. Paul says:

    So Nunes now admits that the Judge was told the dossier was a part of political opposition research.

  1385. Mr.Vito says:

    Dem memo unanimously passed the committee… must be the cherry on top for the GOP.

  1386. JeffP says:

    #1436

    That is a complete distortion of what he and Gowdy said.

  1387. Mr.Vito says:

    Michael Isikoff said in an interview that he’s stunned that his article was used in the FISA court, since it was based on information already known to the FBI and Steele.

    So, that part of the memo has been verified.

  1388. Messy57 says:

    1422. IC DemocratIC memo. The Republicans were shamed into voting to release it, BTW.

  1389. JeffP says:

    #1436

    The footnote on intelligence on the FBI FISA app had no mention of true source which was DNC,HRC, Steele. Mislead judge. See Gowdy Face the Nation interview.

  1390. Tina says:

    Carter Page was not considered by the Russians as a credible businessmen and/or figure. Many believe Carter Page was an insignificant player. Again, this raises the question of whether surveillance of him was really an attempt to get at others.

    From that forbes article on the timeline. Important to note that in 2013 through early to mid 2016,page worked for or was paid by thr fbi.

    This is thr new sheot that will hit the fan.

  1391. NYCmike says:

    messy,

    It was planned since last week. They stated as such, as did President Trump.

    As Joe Wilson would say, “You lie!”.

  1392. DW says:

    1434:

    1) Raising Himself from the dead after 3 days.
    2) Raising Lazarus from the dead after he was dead 4 days.
    3) Raising the daughter of Jairus from the dead.
    4) Feeding over 5000 people from one lunch.
    5) Walking on water and commanding the storm to stop.
    6) Turning water into wine
    7) Giving sight to the man born blind.
    8) Restoring health to the paralyzed man.
    9) Healing the 10 Lepers.
    10) Putting up with the lack of faith of His 12 disciples.

  1393. Hugh says:

    Paul. Too bad they failed to mention is was paid for by the dnc and presidential candidate. Dems are such hypocrites. Then gop votes to release their memo. Dems and the msm cheerleaders look like what they are lying political hacks.

  1394. DW says:

    Appealing to other years for sporting event success or failure does nothing toward measuring the size of the upset in the 1980 olympic hockey. What happened was in that moment in time. That some players went on to be successful in the NHL, or other players did well in 1960 is not relevant. The fact is the Soviet team in 1980 was at the pinnacle of its strength, having just two weeks earlier demolished the same USA team, and prior to that demolished the NHL all-stars. Coming into that Olympic tournament, no one gave any team a chance to defeat the Soviets, especially the US team the Soviets had just trashed in Madison Square Garden.

    Furthermore, it was important to point out the nature of the four goals scored by the USA in the game which only highlights the improbable nature of the win. I posted this above:

    And given that USA defeated the USSR 4-3, the only USA goal scored that looked conventional was the Eruzione goal that put the USA up 4-3. Eruzione picked up a loose puck, used a Soviet defender to screen their goalie and fired it in for a 4-3 lead.

    But their first three goals were:

    1) A long slap-shot from Buzz Schneider that the Soviet goaltender stops 99 times out of 100. Somehow he missed it.

    2) The first period was ending. 5 seconds left and the USA fired the puck from beyond the center line just to force the Soviets to make an easy save. Several Soviet and USA players already were headed to the bench. As the Soviet goalie waited for the puck, USA’s Mark Johnson kept playing, sprinting down the ice on the 1/500 chance the puck is somehow misplayed. Not only did the Soviet goalie misplay it, he booted it right onto Johnson’s stick and the shot snapped the net with 1 second remaining. the first period ended 2-2, with both USA goals flukes.

    3) Trailing 3-2 not quite half way through the third period, the attacking USA play broke apart as they lost the puck well out in front of the Soviet net. A Soviet defender picked it up, only to have to slide inexplicably off his stick and behind him, landing unexpectedly on Johnson’s stick as he was charging toward the net. His shot tied the game 3-3.

  1395. DW says:

    So absurd was the 1980 win over the Soviets that even the Soviet leader consoled the coach and brushed it off as a fluke. Russians asked the players if they were drunk.

  1396. DW says:

    ABC sports struggled to find words to describe the magnitude of the USA win over the Soviets. Adjectives and metaphors seemed to fall short.

    Finally Jim McCay compared it to a bunch of Canadian college football players defeating the reigning Super Bowl champion Pittsburgh Steelers.

  1397. DW says:

    And the fact that the USA didn’t make it to this year’s world cup soccer is also irrelevant. A number of other countries commonly in the tournament also didn’t make it. Only 32 countries got in…also not making the cut were Italy, Netherlands, Chile and New Zealand.

  1398. DW says:

    Generic Congressional ballot – IBD/TIPP

    D 46
    R 41

  1399. jason says:

    “The American team in 1980, consisting solely of amateurs”

    -I believe it was like 13 or 14 of them had professional careers.”

    You believe wrong, all the 1980 players were amateurs because pros could not compete. That only changed in 1986.

    Stop digging a hole for yourself.

  1400. Mr.Vito says:

    “1422. IC DemocratIC memo. The Republicans were shamed into voting to release it, BTW.”

    Newsweek, CBS, the Independent and others use “Democrat” memo. Verdict: acceptable use

    Nunes said the day his memo was released that the Democrat memo would be released. The GOP never advocated against its release. Verdict: you lie.

  1401. jason says:

    The Republicans were shamed into voting to release it, BTW.”

    LOL

    Actually, the voted to release it because they know the contents are BS and they think people can read both and make up their own minds.

    And after finding out that Steele was a media whore who was fed fake information by the Democrats, and that Schiff himself admits the dossier was a partisan document, do you still think his motives were “concern”, or do you now admit he was just a paid political hack?

  1402. jason says:

    Let’s see how many MSM outlets are going to use the word “partisan memo” to describe the Dem memo.

    I say its between zero and 0.

  1403. Mr.Vito says:

    “And after finding out that Steele…”

    You forgot to mention failing to show for civil cases, and recommended for criminal charges by Senate Intel Committee.

  1404. DW says:

    1452 – its a chronological fallacy. Importing data from years later is irrelevant to what happened in the weeks leading up to the game on 2/22/1980.

    On 2/22/1980 the USA team was comprised of amateur college students. The Soviets knew this…in fact one of Soviet players said people kept asking him, who did you lose to? A team of students?

    Soviet goaltender Tretiak later admitted that they did not take the USA seriously because of the thrashing they gave them in the exhibition. And he went on to say you cannot disrespect your opponent.

    But at the time of the game, the USA players were mostly 21-22 years old. The Soviets were mostly mid-20s to early 30s.

  1405. DW says:

    I still get choked up whenever I see the image of Eruzione with his stick in the air running along the boards having just scored what would be the game winning goal.

  1406. jason says:

    NYC’s effort to denigrate the 1980 Olympic gold achievement reminds me of his effort to argue that somehow statutory rape was a matter of individual conscience and a “loser” for the GOP.

    Epic fail on both counts.

  1407. Waingro says:


    DW says:
    February 6, 2018 at 10:18 am

    Generic Congressional ballot – IBD/TIPP

    D 46
    R 41″

    That same poll also has Trump approval at 35/58, which makes absolutely no sense.

  1408. jason says:

    In other news…..unanimity when it came to the Democrat memo……will the media notice the difference?”

    No.

  1409. mnw says:

    RAS still 49 today.

  1410. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    jason
    I wonder if Messy, with her blue chip “sources”, and Paul were critical of Diane Feinstein(D-CA) when she,on her own volition, released the Fusion GPS transcript.(Feinstein blamed her transgression on cold medication!)
    My “sources” inform me that Messy and Paul were high fiving each other when informed.
    By the way, Messy and Paul are the same person.

  1411. jason says:

    New England Patriots star Rob Gronkowski’s Massachusetts home was burglarized while he was away for Sunday’s Super Bowl in Minnesota, authorities said today.”

    I wonder if the crooks turned on the TV to watch the game.

  1412. jason says:

    I think Messy and Paul are separate blood sucking parasites.

  1413. DW says:

    In Summary, the USA defeat of the Soviets in 1980 was a convergence of individual factors that together produced the most improbable result.

    1) The Soviets were number 1 in the world, but were hurt by their own overconfidence due to the 10-3 thrashing they gave the USA in an exhibition on 2/9/1980. Furthermore, the Czech team was considered the distant 2nd best team in the tourney, and they had failed to make the medal round. So the Soviets were not taking the medal round seriously.

    2) The USA team had an incredible coach in Herb Brooks whose toughness and discipline helped make those boys into men. Brooks had to make himself the enemy of all the players so they would bond together as a team–and it worked. But even with all the preparation, as Brooks noted, the team was not talented enough to win on talent alone. So…

    3) The USA team benefited in the game by three of their goals being flukes. Tretiak never misses an unscreened slap-shot from as far out as Buzz Schneider fired it. But he did. The second USA goal was even a greater fluke. The third USA goal was on a broken play and the luck of the puck suddenly appearing on Johnson’s stick.

    4) USA’s goaltender Jim Craig stopped 36 of 39 Soviet shots. Several Soviet shots hit the post and easily go in just fractions of inches different.

    5) Soviet players had forgotten what it was like to be trailing late, and somewhat panicked, taking wild shots and getting out of their game.

    6) The furious Soviet coach pulled the greatest goaltender in the world at the end of the first period because of the lapse he had at the end of the period. This didn’t cost the Soviets in the 2nd period, but in the third period many believe Tretiak might have stopped one of the two goals his backup let in. Most who study this game agree that it was a huge mistake by the Soviet coach to pull Tretiak.

    And furthermore, the game never would have even happened if USA’s Bill Baker doesn’t score with seconds left against Sweden to gain a tie in the game.

    This whole thing was one of those moments that was meant to be. Jim Lampley said something like it was a magical coach with magical players whom he got to believe they could do something they really couldn’t do.

    But that’s only a partial explanation. Believing they could do it still required the Soviets to make incredible blunders in order for the USA to pull off the 4-3 win. All these factors had to converge together, and they did.

  1414. jason says:

    My favorite miracle was # 6.

  1415. Bitterlaw says:

    How many of the 1980 USA players would have played in the NHL if they had lost to the Soviets? I suspect that most would not have made it to the NHL.

  1416. New York City says:

    Nah, DW, not that impressive a win, the Russians were overrated and the American Team was full of high caliber veteran pros. Besides, the US had home ice advantage, a huge factor.

  1417. DW says:

    1467 – the Greek term for wine is oinos, and it had a wider range of meaning that then English term ‘wine.’ It could mean anything from new wine (fresh squeezed grape juice) to something that could intoxicate if drank in large enough quantity. In the context of John 2, this was probably new wine–fresh grape juice. Sorry to disappoint.

  1418. jason says:

    Or it could have meant something stronger.

    Hope springs eternal.

  1419. Tina says:

    I have trump today at 29%,

    Jebot

  1420. Wobbles says:

    So it could be as low as 20 with the right internals.

  1421. Bitterlaw says:

    New grape juice? DW is a serious buzz kill.

  1422. JeffP says:

    So basically congress polls are D +5 now.

    I Wonder how tax cuts reality, economy and #Obamagate exposure will narrow it down a point or two. Looks like a hold house and add several in the senate at this point…loss of a few seats in the house tops?

  1423. Wobbles says:

    New Trump scandal.

    When he was married to Ivana, he offered Christie Brinkley a ride on his plane to Aspen since they were both going there.

    “In a new interview, the model claims that Donald Trump pursued her while he was still married to Ivana. Brinkley recalled the incident to Porter magazine, saying Trump got her number and called her while she was staying at the Plaza Hotel in New York City.

    “My phone rings and this guy goes, ‘Hey, Christie, it’s the Donald.’ I say, ‘Hi, Billy,’ because I was dating Billy [Joel] at the time,” Brinkley alleges. “But the voice goes, ‘No, no. It’s the Donald! … I hear you’re leaving for Aspen tomorrow. I am too. I’d like to give you a ride on my private jet.’

    Brinkley continues, “So I reply, ‘Thank you, but I have already arranged my flights.’ I knew he was married, and there he was asking me to go on his plane. He was kind of flirty about it. He was out chasing skirts.”

    Horrors. I don’t know how he survives this.

    “I hear you’re leaving for Aspen tomorrow. I am too. I’d like to give you a ride on my private jet”

    I think it warrants a criminal investigation, and I believe Christie.

  1424. Wobbles says:

    “He was kind of flirty about it”.

    I think we should start impeachment proceedings now.

  1425. NYCmike says:

    “I think it warrants a criminal investigation, and I believe Christie.”

    -That Chris Christie really gets around! Hugging Obama, flirty with The Donald…

  1426. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/02/06/just-cant-meghan-mccain-leveled-jennifer-rubin-and-her-bizarre-politi-crush-on-adam-schiff/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

    -War hero and all, but why is that right now I would rather Meghan McCain be in the Senate, instead of her father?

  1427. Tina says:

    No wall, no daca.

    No extension

    Cos kelly.

  1428. Tina says:

    Rubin is a real con. As is the whale.

  1429. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Guy Benson, @guypbenson

    “Yes, the terribly high-minded previous administration cast Republicans as unpatriotic & terrorists over prosaic policy disputes.

    That doesn’t justify the current president deployment of the “treason” bomb — even if he did so ‘in jest,’ or whatever. Demand better.”?

    Agree. Trump’s poll numbers are improving; unfortunately, he is fully capable of blurting out comments that will send his poll numbers down again.

  1430. Tina says:

    Ruh roh, trump calls for hubment shutdown if no iklegal immigration deal.

  1431. Paul says:

    Trump is an ass.

  1432. mnw says:

    From my standpoint, Trump’s immigration framework is way too generous & asks for too little in return.

    Goodlatte’s HR 4760 would do the trick. It has 85 co-sponsors last tile I heard.

  1433. mnw says:

    sb “last time”

  1434. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1484. “Trump is an ass.”

    So are the Democrats. So I will vote for the one enacting policies that are benefiting the country.

  1435. mnw says:

    SDC

    Paultrolly is a beneficiary of…Obamacare, doncha know.

    When you’re on Obamacare, well… it effects how much weight people give your opinions.

    Pauly: did u get an Obamaphone too?

  1436. Hugh says:

    Just when things are going well. Trump starts talking govt shutdown and sends a life line to the reeling dems.

  1437. Wes says:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-i-d-love-see-shutdown-if-congress-can-t-n845221

    Did you read what he said, Hugh?

    His exact words:

    I’d love to see a shutdown if we don’t get this stuff taken care of, and if we have to shut it down because the Democrats don’t want safety — and unrelated but still related, they don’t want to take care of our military — then shut it down. We’ll go with another shutdown.”

    That’s not throwing a lifeline. It’s drawing a line in the sand and daring the Dems to cross it.

  1438. DW says:

    Breaking: Just saw on RRH: “NEW: Supreme Court says it won’t add yet another partisan gerrymandering case to argument calendar, rejects bid by opponents of GOP-drawn NC congressional map. Sotomayor, Ginsburg dissent. #Scotus previously stayed order that had required new map.”

    Good news for house GOP in NC

  1439. DW says:

    wow–Dems couldn’t even get Kagan and Breyer

  1440. Wes says:

    Please tell me West Virginians are poised to toss this hypocritical sleazeball out of the Senate, Walt:

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/06/politics/joe-manchin-pledge-senators/index.html

  1441. DW says:

    1493 – that is one race where there would zero risk if Trump himself campaigned hard for Manchin’s opponent. I mean this is a state that went 69/26 for Trump over Hillary.

  1442. Mr.Vito says:

    SCOTUS denied a stay for the PA GOP, though.

  1443. mnw says:

    Vito

    SCOTUS didn’t want to mess with a PA STATE statute. The other cases before SCOTUS hinge on federal law. PA does not.

  1444. DW says:

    The only way to make the district line-drawing fair is to leave it as part of the spoils of electoral victory. As long as the population distribution is within range, then let the districts be drawn like a bowl of spilled spaghetti. Its the only way the voter has a say in how its done. Un-elected commissions and university professors are NOT ‘nonpartisan’ and will always produce Dem friendly maps.

  1445. Wobbles says:

    Yeah, and it was Alito, no less that denied it. Go figure.

  1446. DW says:

    MD’s return?

  1447. jason says:

    “Non-partisan commission” = Democrats

    Always.

  1448. jason says:

    Market only up 567 points.

    I blame Trump.

  1449. hugh says:

    I read it and think it was a dumb thing to say. Lots of ways to interpret what he said. So now if we have a repeat of what happened before a few people might blame it on trump versus schumer. I cant figure out what he was trying to gain by saying it.

  1450. Tina says:

    They want daca or nothing,

    His 4 point plan seems ok. I do not like the daca amnesty, but the other provisions I am for.

  1451. jason says:

    So I guess we were all wrong, except the trolls.

    There was, sadly, collusion.

    “Rep. Devin Nunes, the chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, declared Monday evening that there was “clear evidence of collusion” with the Russians — but it was on the Democratic side.

    During an appearance on Fox News’ Hannity, Nunes blasted the mainstream media, calling their failure to report honestly on the growing scandal “embarrassing.”

    The California Republican also announced that his committee would be asking for the transcripts of the four surveillance requests from the FISA Court.

    Nunes pointed out that no one in the mainstream media seemed bothered by the fact that the FBI knowingly used “political dirt” to open a counterintelligence investigation into a presidential campaign.

    The fact that the mainstream media is “totally uninterested in this” Nunes said was a problem. “Can you imagine if the shoe was on the other foot?” he exclaimed.

    As an example, he argued that if Donald Trump or President Bush or Karl Rove had paid for political dirt and then George W. Bush’s FBI opened an counterintelligence investigation into the Obama campaign, “this town would be on fire.” Nunes said: “Every reporter would be following around Karl Rove and George W. Bush all over town. Yet it’s crickets from the media. It’s embarrassing. It’s absolutely embarrassing and I’m almost flabbergasted because I thought at least there would be some ounce of credibility left, but there really is none.”

    Nunes also pointed out that the Obama campaign talked to Russians in 2008, and nobody seemed bothered by that.

    He told Hannity that the FISA abuse that happened during the Obama era was “what happens in banana republics. It’s very scary.”

    “We’re going to try to ask the court whether or not they will provide the transcripts of the four proceedings,” he said. “It would be very interesting if we could get those transcripts to know exactly what was presented verbally to the court, and to see if that was transcribed.”

    Nunes said that the evidence points to a “clear link” between the Clinton campaign and Russia. “You have a campaign who hired a law firm, who hired Fusion GPS, who then got information from the Russians on the other campaign,” he said. “It seems like the counter intelligence investigation should’ve been opened up against the Hillary campaign when they got a-hold of the dossier. But that didn’t happen, either.”
    Sponsored

    Incredibly, the Democrats on the Intelligence Committee have apparently leaked intelligence to the media at least 100 times, according to the congressman.

    In response to reports that Clinton’s shady associates went through the State Department to feed former British spy Christopher Steele anti-Trump allegations, Nunes suggested that the committee was looking into it.

    “We have an active investigation into the State Department that has been going on for awhile now,” Nunes said. “As soon as we can get that information out, we will — as the investigation unfolds.”

  1452. jason says:

    Yep, that was the problem the state statute.

    But the GOP still gets to redraw the map, the problem is the Dems on the court will not accept it.

    There may be further litigation on this.

  1453. DW says:

    1507 – I haven’t been following the PA case at all. Can the GOP stall? Drag their feet? Run out the clock?

  1454. jason says:

    So remember how it was a terrible thing that Don JR. said he “would love to hear about dirt on Hillary”. The MSM went nuts.

    And now…

    “On an audio recording of the prank call posted online, Adam Schiff can be heard discussing the committee’s Russia investigation and increasingly bizarre allegations about Trump with a man who claimed to be Andriy Parubiy, the chairman of the Ukrainian Parliament.

    The call, made a year ago, was actually from two Russian comedians nicknamed ‘Vovan’ and ‘Lexus’ who have become notorious for their phony calls to high-ranking American officials and celebrities, including UN Ambassador Nikki Haley and Elton John.

    Its existence was first reportedby The Atlantic but not how a staff member working for the minority on the House Intelligence Committee pursued the information after the call.

    Schiff’s office said the congressman suspected the call was ‘bogus’ from the beginning and reported it to authorities afterward.

    But in a recording of the eight minute conversation, Schiff appeared to take the call seriously – or at least played along convincingly – and emails from the Democrat’s staff to the fake politician afterwards said he had found it ‘productive’.

  1455. jason says:

    nd emails from the Democrat’s staff to the fake politician afterwards said he had found it ‘productive’.”

    Right, he knew it was “bogus”

    LOL

  1456. jason says:

    Can the GOP stall? Drag their feet? Run out the clock?”

    No, the court is stacked with Dems.

    Elections have consequences.

  1457. Tina says:

    He is also in teouble for leaking.

    Schiff for brains shoukd be the 2020 drat nominee.

    Jebots, is schifty ok?

  1458. Wes says:

    Elections have consequences, Jason.

    When Republicans nominated Deadenders, they hurt their own Senate prospects.

    When the GOP nominated a lazy, stupid, inarticulate, incompetent, irresponsible moron for President and narrowly got him across the finish line twice, they should have anticipated an ideologically left-wing Democrat would inevitably win the White House.

    Similarly when Democrats won the PA Supreme Court, a partisan attack on their “gerrymandered” map was an inevitability.

  1459. JC says:

    Manchin is 100% in lock step with Schumer and Pelosi. Sure, he talks about ‘bi-partisanship’ and being a ‘moderate’ all the time – probably more than anyone. Yet this guy never, ever crosses the isle during important votes. Whether it’s tax cuts, healthcare, or immigration, he is just one more Schumer lackey doing as told.

    Apologies to Walt and Cash Cow, but if WVirginians re-elect this guy, then the state as a whole is every bit as dumb as leftist say it is.

  1460. JC says:

    Wes, you’re are living in an alternate universe. Everything you are saying is antithetical to what is happening in reality.

    Just admit you were wrong about Trump governing as a liberal and get it over with.

  1461. Wes says:

    You’re an idiot, JC. I haven’t posted anything about Trump today.

    I advise laying off the mind-altering substances before discussing alternate universes regarding things I never said or implied. You’re clearly living in one.

  1462. walt says:

    Bridge playing day.

    I sucked.

    There are 40 high card points in a deck of cards.

    Most of the hands I had 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 points.
    Statistically hard to believe.
    But at least I had no problem bidding since yi had nowhere close to point count to open with a bid or to answer my partner’s bid.

  1463. NYCmike says:

    JC,

    I believe Wes was speaking about Dubya.

  1464. walt says:

    Wes says:
    February 6, 2018 at 4:05 pm
    Please tell me West Virginians are poised to toss this hypocritical sleazeball out of the Senate, Walt:
    ************************
    Wes,
    WV AG Morissey and Congressman Jenkins are both fighting each other for the R nomination–spending $ hitting the other’s negatives. Will probably get worse.

    At this point, I would say the GE needle tilts toward Manchin (sadly). As usual, I figger the leftist Ds will end up voting for Manchin in the GE.

    Manchin still remains popular among non-leftist Ds, indys, and a big slab of R voters.

  1465. DW says:

    “Manchin still remains popular among non-leftist Ds, indys, and a big slab of retarded R voters.”

    Fixed it for you…no offense meant.

  1466. JC says:

    @wes

    I misread what you typed. Thought you were implying Trump was the moron AND an ultra-leftist. Sorry

  1467. DW says:

    Its not just WV, I recall a VA voter I spoke to who voted for Warner over Gillespie even though this voter is conservative, pro-military, pro-gun, pro-life, and so forth. But he is one of those voters who thinks he has to be clever and smarter than voters who just vote for one party straight down the ballot.

  1468. JeffP says:

    I thought Manchin might pull a Arlen Spector move and flip. The WV Gov. switched. I guess he doesn’t want competition…dude needs to get a grip. Is he pro life?

  1469. JeffP says:

    Where is MD…? He really went after me in the summer of 2016 when I kept saying Trump had a chance…borderline online abuse from the bully…LOL.

  1470. jason says:

    He left the night of the election and is now supporting Democrats in order to punish Trump.

    Basically went over to the dark side.

  1471. jason says:

    This election cost me what I considered two good friends here, MD and Author.

    I never thought somebody like Trump would cause them to renege on their conservative principles, because Presidents come and go, principles remain.

    Hard to fathom.

  1472. Bitterlaw says:

    Today is the deadline for deciding whether to stay on my wife’s plan or go with the new job’s health insurance. The new plan has a higher deductible but lower premiums. I cannot get an answer on whether prescriptions would cost more on the new plan. Staying on the old plan will cost $1000 more per year BUT I will have certainty and the coverage I am used to. Maybe I will have answers to the prescription issue by next enrollment period.

  1473. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – MD hurt the most. I thought A-holes were tighter than this.

  1474. jason says:

    Go with what you are used to because that is the least stressful option.

  1475. Bitterlaw says:

    MD is openly supporting a Democrat for Congress in his district. Unbelievable.

  1476. Bitterlaw says:

    I agree, Jason. With a pre-existing condition, despite what the law says, I need certainty of coverage.

  1477. jason says:

    I remember once MD chastised me because I wasn’t supportive enough of Sharron Angle, that is how far he has come.

    I actually viewed MD as more conservative than I was, I thought ideologically I was closer to Author.

    I would have bet my bottom dollar they would not let someone like Trump make them become liberals.

    Gl