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Hogan Leads Top Three Dems By Double Digits in MD

Contrary to what I said yesterday, Mason-Dixon Polling did do the head-to-head match ups for the gubernatorial race in my home state and it shows our Republican Governor holding a double-digit lead over the top three Democrats.

GOVERNOR – MARYLAND (Mason-Dixon)
Larry Hogan (R-inc) 51%
Rushern Baker (D) 36%

Larry Hogan (R-inc) 50%
Ben Jealous (D) 33%

Larry Hogan (R-inc) 49%
Kevin Kamenetz (D) 34%

This poll was done February 20-22 among 625 registered voters. There is an ability to win as a Republican even in a blue state despite Donald Trump being the face of the party.

Posted by Dave at 10:54 am
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389 Responses to “Hogan Leads Top Three Dems By Double Digits in MD”

  1. Tina says:

    According to the jebot, the ig report is out,

    Lol

  2. lisab says:

    Justice Thomas recently wondered what remains that binds us as Americans. Good question.
    ——————————————
    i also think it is a good question.

    there was a time when the owners of factories and businesses lived in the city/town where the factories and businesses were located. for example, you can see many dilapidated mansions in detroit. also, banks were owned by a local family and they did not want to foreclose on you, they also lived in the area and did not want to depress the city.

    the executives lived there and they had to face their neighbors if they had layoffs etc. they had “skin in the game” as the saying goes.

    in one sense this was bad as people tended to help their own local people, i.e. italian americans helped the italian neighborhood, irish americans helped the irish neighborhood, etc.

    however, now in this day of the internet and remote executives, where the owners of a business may live in NYC or San Francisco and never actually step foot in the actual factories in the midwest

    their loyalties are really to themselves and others in their social class. if they close a factory in detroit and open one in mexico, it does not affect them in the least. they have no loyalty whatsoever to their workers in michigan or pennsylvania etc. because they are off skiing in switzerland

  3. lisab says:

    daniel day lewis is an english and irish citizen btw

    he only plays americans in movies

  4. Tina says:

    Tweets & replies
    Media
    Likes
    John Cardillo’s Tweets
    John Cardillo
    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    ·
    3h
    .@browardsheriff Captain Jan Jordan gave ‘stand down’ and ‘set up perimeter’ orders in #Parkland.

    A deadly policy violation that contradicted training doctrine and protocols.

    She was handpicked for the job by Scott Israel.

    This is from the sun Sentinel. Sheriff dumb dumb must go.

  5. Chicon says:

    Chicon says:
    128 – Trump ran on helping blue collar workers, and talked about tariffs. He won the Republican nomination anyway. He won several states because of it. He’s now doing what he said.

    I get you didn’t want him – neither did I – but he did win and should try to implement the agenda on which he ran.

  6. lisab says:

    as far as the tarriffs are concerned

    the result can be good or bad depending on how they are handled.

    if they target everyone, even those who trade fairly with the usa, then they will ultimately be bad.

    if they are narrowly used to punish those who cheat on trade agreements — like china, they will probably ultimately help.

    for example, canada is a major trading partner and ally, punishing them is probably bad. a steel factory in canada may very well be owned by a usa company anyway — certainly it could be. there is no big natonal security issue with canada supplying us steel, sooooooooo

    they should probably get a waiver as trade with canada is a good thing

  7. Chicon says:

    6 was a reply to Robbie from the previous thread.

  8. Tina says:

    Today is muh trade war.

  9. mnw says:

    I trust Trump’s negotiating skills— tariffs are a negotiating strategy. Gets their attention.

  10. Chicon says:

    10 – good point.

    Hawks lambasted by the Sharts last night. Ugly.

  11. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    March 2, 2018 at 12:11 pm
    Chicon says:
    128 – Trump ran on helping blue collar workers, and talked about tariffs. He won the Republican nomination anyway. He won several states because of it. He’s now doing what he said.
    I get you didn’t want him – neither did I – but he did win and should try to implement the agenda on which he ran.

    – Just because Trump won does not mean he should pursue policies that are stupid. And every bit of data shows that Trump’s boob bait sop on trade will, in fact, hurt the blue collar workers he claims he wants to help.

    Trump seems to think he can recreate the 1950’s. Well, that period of time is gone and it’s time for the protectionist clowns to figure that out. America has transition to a high tech, consumer driven economy. Telling a certain group of workers their jobs are coming back when it’s clear they aren’t isn’t fulfilling a campaign promise. It’s lying.

  12. Cash Cow ™ says:

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  13. Cash Cow ™ says:

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  14. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    March 2, 2018 at 12:13 pm
    as far as the tarriffs are concerned
    the result can be good or bad depending on how they are handled.

    – There is ZERO data that shows tariffs, however they are targeted, have had a good effect. In fact, GWB’s targeted tariffs on steel in 2002 which lasted 6 six cost Americans 200,000 jobs.

    Tariffs are a tax on Americans and they only cause unintended consequences.

  15. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    March 2, 2018 at 12:30 pm
    I trust Trump’s negotiating skills— tariffs are a negotiating strategy. Gets their attention.

    – Right.

  16. Tina says:

    Nick Short ??
    Nick Short ??
    @PoliticalShort
    ·
    4h
    Ben Rhodes was the only one of 187 Obama officials denied an interim security clearance & he went on to become Obama’s most trusted foreign policy advisor. Media never cared about that. Odd.

  17. Tina says:

    Schiff and Schaff,

    What a combo.

  18. Tina says:

    She is said to be fluent in the Russian language and an expert on cybersecurity. Her husband is Bruce Ohr, the former number four official in President Obama’s Justice Department.

    According to a sworn court filing by Fusion GPS co-founder Glenn Simpson, she was hired by that firm to conduct opposition research on behalf of the Clinton campaign against candidate Donald Trump. In his statement, Simpson acknowledged bank records reflect that Fusion GPS contracted with her “to help our company with its research and analysis of Mr. Trump.”

    At the same time, Fusion GPS retained the services of former British spy and FBI informant Christopher Steele to obtain derogatory information from his Russian sources about Trump. The final Fusion GPS product became the now-discredited eponymous Steele dossier, which James Comey’s FBI and Obama’s DOJ used to obtain Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act warrants to spy on a Trump campaign member.

  19. Robbie says:

    Shorter Wilbur Ross: “Let them eat cake.”

    After mocking Democrats for their crumbs comments on the tax cuts, one of Trump’s crony cabinet members goes on TV and says paying 1% higher costs for a $35,000 car is no big deal. Doubt it would be for a billionaire, but Trump voters aren’t billionaires.

    Carl Quintanilla
    ?@carlquintanilla

    Wilbur Ross on @CNBC now: “There’s about 1 ton of steel in a car. The price of a ton of steel is $700 or so, so 25% on that would be one half of 1% price increase on the typical $35000 car. So it’s no big deal.”

  20. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 2, 2018 at 12:47 pm
    http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/02/fusion-gpss-anti-trump-researcher-avoid-surveillance-ham-radio-license/
    Ugly ohr used a ham radio.

    – I wondered if your would post that tinfoil hat theory pushed by the Federalist today. You did not disappoint. That article is some Jerome Corsi InforWars level nuttery.

  21. Robbie says:

    Such a brilliant 2018 campaign strategy.

    Charlie Sykes
    ?@SykesCharlie

    Two consequences of the Trump tariffs: 1. Flips the script from the success of the tax cuts, strong economy, to potential damage of a trade war. Undermines GOP’s strongest talking points. 2. Media coverage will highlight downsides of protectionism. Teachable moment for free mkt.

  22. Tina says:

    Where is the ig report?

  23. Tina says:

    Muh trade war,

    Muh porn star.

    Muh russian

  24. Tina says:

    Bruce Ohr, #4 was demoted twice. He faiked to disclose his wifes involvement with fusion gps on a required disclosure form,

    She soeaks russian.

  25. Tina says:

    The week after the presidential election, when he was facing removal from his post, Rogers visited the president-elect at Trump Tower. On November 19, 2016, Reuters reported that Rogers’ decision “to travel to New York to meet with Trump on Thursday without notifying superiors caused consternation at senior levels of the [Obama] administration.”

    This is true too, trump campaign moves to nj after rogers meets with trump, post election, trump tower was tapped.

  26. Tina says:

    So, was Nellie Ohr’s late-in-life foray into ham radio an effort to evade the Rogers-led NSA detecting her participation in compiling the Russian-sourced Steele dossier? Just as her husband’s omissions on his DOJ ethics forms raise an inference of improper motive, any competent prosecutor could use the circumstantial evidence of her taking up ham radio while digging for dirt on Trump to prove her consciousness of guilt and intention to conceal illegal activities.

    Raises interesting points

  27. Tina says:

    art Retweeted
    TraderMoe
    TraderMoe
    @Trader_Moe
    ·
    30m
    Replying to @ChadPergram
    We’re already in a trade war, and we’re the ones who are losing. Steel is critical for national security and we can’t afford to give it up for Cuck Sasse’s theories.

    Cuck sasse? ben Asse?

  28. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram
    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    ·
    17h
    GOP NE Sen Sasse tells colleague Bret Baier the “men and women of America don’t want to be drafted into a trade war..If you consume steel– & every..family..tonight bought something at the store that has steel in it, then that’s bad for you and that’s just the first day.”

    Justin biebers counterpart. Two idiots, the steel industry here has veen dying.

  29. NYCmike says:

    Not in favor of tariffs, but not reflexively against them either. I remember thinking the same way about Dubya: WHY?

    That time, results were bad.

    Robbie? Nope, never mentioned that ACTION taken by Bush, until today, and with much less sarcasm/vitriol compared to his reaction to Trump.

    Why? Because, like “CG”, the policy is NOT the issue. It is the man himself, and the fact that he made their hero, JEB!2016, look like a first grader running for class President, and his mommy forget to buy the icing for the cupcakes.

  30. NYCmike says:

    Ham radio? LOL!

    One of my old paper-route customers was a ham radio operator. EVERY time I went to collect, he was “broadcasting” on that thing. His wife would make fun of him every time. He would always yell at her that the tip was too much. I always said, “Mrs. Sullivan, you are the BEST customer on my paper route!”

  31. NYCmike says:

    “Shorter Wilbur Ross”

    -I guess it is true that we shrink as we age……..WALT must have been a GIANT!

  32. NYCmike says:

    “Tariffs are a tax on Americans and they only cause unintended consequences.”

    -How about the $$ spent on having illegal immigrants in our schools, in our emergency rooms, in our prisons, and how about taking jobs away from legal immigrants and/or citizens?

    Any words on that? Or those laws are not worth your breath?

  33. Robbie says:

    Nothing to see here, right? Everything’s fine.

    BRD Polling
    ?@brd_polling

    BREAKING: Our poll for #PA18 has been released

    Conor Lamb (Democrat) 47% (+1)
    Rick Saccone (Republican) 46%
    Drew Gray Miller (Libertarian) 1%
    Undecided: 6%

  34. MichiganGuy says:

    LA-Gov 2019 Mason-Dixon poll

    Gov. John Bel Edwards (D) 45%
    Sen. John Kennedy (R) 44%
    .
    Gov. John Bel Edwards (D) 46%
    Rep. Steve Scalise (R) 43%

    http://www.klfy.com/top-stories/poll-gov-edwards-is-popular-but-could-face-a-tight-2019-race/1003871178

  35. MichiganGuy says:

    BRD Polling LOL your funny Robbie

  36. NYCmike says:

    D O O M ! !

    This Nor’Easter is like a nice summer day compared to Robbie’s W’rath!

  37. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 2, 2018 at 1:16 pm
    Not in favor of tariffs, but not reflexively against them either. I remember thinking the same way about Dubya: WHY?
    That time, results were bad.
    Robbie? Nope, never mentioned that ACTION taken by Bush, until today, and with much less sarcasm/vitriol compared to his reaction to Trump.
    Why? Because, like “CG”, the policy is NOT the issue. It is the man himself, and the fact that he made their hero, JEB!2016, look like a first grader running for class President, and his mommy forget to buy the icing for the cupcakes.

    – You’re such an embarrassment. It’s no wonder you slavishly shill for Trump after spending years here boasting you were a Tea Party purist. You’re supposed convictions were fake just like Trump is.

    And when you really can’t totally defend Trump’s stupid ideas, you’re go-to response is “whataboutism”. Well, what about GWB? Well, what about Reagan? Deal with the here and now.

    You spent the last year asking people to point out policies Trump has advocated that weren’t conservative. Then in back to back days Trump offers up two mega-liberal policy ideas and you resort to “well, GWB did it too” or “you’re just mad that Jeb got beat”. Pathetic.

  38. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 2, 2018 at 1:25 pm
    “Tariffs are a tax on Americans and they only cause unintended consequences.”
    -How about the $$ spent on having illegal immigrants in our schools, in our emergency rooms, in our prisons, and how about taking jobs away from legal immigrants and/or citizens?
    Any words on that? Or those laws are not worth your breath?

    – You’re taking your stupidity to new levels today. You’ll do anything you can to defend Trump. It’s so pathetic to watch. At least now, I’ll know the next time you pop off about being a Tea Party purist I’ll know it’s just horse crap. It you really were a Tea Party purist, you wouldn’t be spending all of your time defending a lifelong NYC liberal like Trump.

  39. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 2, 2018 at 1:35 pm
    D O O M ! !
    This Nor’Easter is like a nice summer day compared to Robbie’s W’rath!

    – I thought this a was a polling site. I forgot. It’s now a pro-Trump echo chamber where nothing but happy talk about the dear orange leader is allowed.

  40. Robbie says:

    Seems like great reasons, am I right?

    NYCmike: This didn’t come form Michelle Malkin so I refuse to believe it.

    Philip Rucker
    ?@PhilipRucker

    Trump launched a trade war because he was “angry,” “unglued” and “gunning for a fight,” @SRuhle & @PeterAlexander report

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-was-angry-unglued-when-he-started-trade-war-officials-n852641?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

  41. NYCmike says:

    Test

  42. NYCmike says:

    Oh well, my comment seems to have some issue with Hal.

  43. NYCmike says:

    “NYCmike: This didn’t come form Michelle Malkin so I refuse to believe it.”

    -I like Michelle. I have not written her name in like 4 years, but she must have taken up a room in Robbie’s brain, so that is a good thing.

  44. NYCmike says:

    Philip Rucker – WAPO – unnamed/anonymous sources, no doubt.

    #HookLine&Sinker

  45. NYCmike says:

    Robbie = #Hook, the story of a young man who wants to become a boy again

  46. NYCmike says:

    Robbie listening to the mainstream media:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E83oYrYd-WA

  47. NYCmike says:

    LV

  48. NYCmike says:

    Dang, forgot about the 4 comments in moderation!

  49. Chicon says:

    43 – and you post lots of polls, right? A bunch of them in Trump’s favor, right?

    Lol.

  50. Jeff G. says:

    Great, more links to MSM stories quoting all sorts of “White House officials.” There’s never a real person to attach to any of the comments about Trump. I love the one in the NBC story that is attributed to an “official familiar with the president’s state of mind.”

  51. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    37. Nothing to see here, right? Everything’s fine.
    BRD Polling
    ?@brd_polling

    BREAKING: Our poll for #PA18 has been released
    Conor Lamb (Democrat) 47% (+1)
    Rick Saccone (Republican) 46%
    Drew Gray Miller (Libertarian) 1%
    Undecided: 6%

    BRD (Blumental Research) is a Democratic shill group. Robbie, what does Lord Ashcroft say on the race?

  52. Tina says:

    I love drat polling

    Jebot

  53. dblaikie says:

    I have one piece of advice concerning this Congressional race in Pa — ignore all polls. If you live in that district take part in the last poll and vote.

  54. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    12. “Trump seems to think he can recreate the 1950’s. Well, that period of time is gone and it’s time for the protectionist clowns to figure that out. America has transition to a high tech, consumer driven economy. Telling a certain group of workers their jobs are coming back when it’s clear they aren’t isn’t fulfilling a campaign promise. It’s lying.”

    The high tech economy that Robbie speaks of involves products made by low cost labor in places like China and India, which are then sold by companies like Apple & Google, who sequester the profits overseas and as a result pay very low taxes.

    This situation existed because politicians like Obama & Clinton were substantially funded by Google and other high tech oligarchs, and protected them. Meanwhile substantial portions of the U.S. were de-industrialized, as they could not compete with very low wage overseas labor, in places that did not enforce safe working condition & working hour limitations. These U.S. areas are now part of the supposed “consumer” economy.

    Both the Trump and Sanders campaigns were based on attacking the Obama/Clinton (and Bush) economic policies. Robbie, your not just attacking Trump, but also Sanders and perhaps now the leading faction of the Democratic Party. Do not let your hatred of Trump blind you to the fact the economic policies of Obama, Clinton & Bush are not coming back.

  55. mnw says:

    The consensus at RRH is that BRD PA-18 is a “fake poll.” Their analysis is pretty compelling. The poll result is inconsistent with some of the underlying numbers.

  56. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    60. I would not call it “fake.” It has a bias.

  57. Chicon says:

    Robbie sez he reads Redstate. I wonder if he saw this?

    http://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2018/03/
    02/thoughts-never-trump-former-never-trumper/

    However, when he won the election I dropped the idea of “Never Trump.” I did so, not because I suddenly found myself affectionate for the guy, or had a turn around about my ideas of him. I kept those. But I didn’t see what being “Never Trump” could accomplish at that point. We had Trump. There was no other way around it.

    Being “Never Trump” at that point seemed more like an obtuse stance that would cause you to hate and reject everything he did, even if it was something one really wanted from an ideological perspective. I expected this continued full-boar rejection from the left, but not because they were “Never Trump.” It’s because they’re “Never Republican.”

  58. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “PARKLAND, Fla. (AP) — A sheriff’s office captain told deputies to form a perimeter instead of confronting the gunman at a Florida high school where 17 people were killed in a mass shooting, according to documents obtained by the Miami Herald.

    The newspaper reported late Thursday that it had obtained a partial Broward Sheriff’s Office dispatch log, which showed that Capt. Jan Jordan gave the order for deputies to establish a perimeter.

    “An earlier report on the call logs published by Fox News showed that the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School would have been over by the time Jordan gave her order.

    However, the log may raise fresh questions about the department’s handling of the mass shooting on Feb. 14, including whether police could have gone in sooner to help the wounded.”

    This was sort of suspected as what happened; and was likely the underlying policy that officers had been trained to follow. If so, am surprised after the Pulse Nightclub attack that it continued to exist.

  59. SoHope says:

    I was meeting with a client and MSNBC was on in the background. It was interesting hearing die-hard liberals who were calling for a $15 minimum wage, high taxes on corporations, cap and trade that would hurt American business, tons of regulations, and punishing companies that outsource jobs overseas but they were worried about how a steel and aluminum tariff was going to make cars and cans of soup more expensive.

    I’m beginning to think if Trump declared he was supporting 100% the Democratic platform that they would oppose him based on reflex.

  60. mnw says:

    SDC

    If u look at the RRH comments about the BRD poll, I think “fake poll” fits, assuming The Wise Men recited the facts accurately.

    fake = phony, as in “not sure there really was a poll even conducted.”

  61. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    65. Will defer to your judgement, since you have done the research.

  62. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Something for those to think about who believe the Russians colluded with Trump.

    “The US occupies 30% of Syria. Granted it is largely desert. The military says we are staying. A couple of weeks ago, the US killed 200 Russian mercenaries storming a US held Syrian Oil Facility. Trump has killed more Russians than any President in history.

    No one has been tougher on Russia.”

  63. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m sitting here without power. The changeover to snow came early. I still love 4 seasons.

  64. Bitterlaw says:

    Jennifer Lawrence is nude in her new movie? I don’t care what she says or believes. I should see that movie.

  65. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/03/02/zero-credibility-bret-stephens-makes-delusional-nevertrump-comparison/

    -Maybe Robbie and “CG” are Bret Stephens and Max Boot in real life….they are just as ludicrous.

  66. NYCmike says:

    http://ace.mu.nu/archives/374125.php

    -Robbie to belittle the ideas contained within in 3…2….1…..

  67. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mwn & SD
    The Decision Desk confirms that it was a bogus poll. The motive was to manipulate the PredictIt market!

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/03/02/caution-poll-just-out-with-dem-underdog-leading-in-pa18-is-totally-bogus/

  68. NYCmike says:

    Yo “CG”, did you see my response to you on the other blog?

  69. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Looks like Robbie’s record of quoting bogus polls remains unbroken. Further confirms he is troll.

    Jeff B.
    ?@EsotericCD
    Just you know, @BRD_polling (the outfit with that supposed PA-18 poll) comes from the same group of scammers that released fake polls in GA-6 and AL-SEN. The goal is to move prediction markets using fake polls for profit.

    Really, this is a test of your credulity.
    Jeff B.
    ?@EsotericCD
    Incidentally, I’m not speculating. I’ve dealt with these people before. CSP Polling (the CSP stood for “Cuck Shed Polls”), KP Polling, etc. They’re based out of the PredictIt website and its comment boards (if not ‘based’ they at least hang out there). Not sure how many ppl.
    12:29 PM – Mar 2, 2018

  70. Robbie says:

    But I’ve been assured he’s Reagan.

    Alex Burns
    ?@alexburnsNYT

    RUDDY says out loud (and seemingly not in a negative way) what Republicans in DC more quietly fear >>

    “If the Democrats win the House, Trump might find more of his inner Democrat,” he says. “There’s a lot he agrees with them about.”

  71. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    March 2, 2018 at 6:31 pm
    Looks like Robbie’s record of quoting bogus polls remains unbroken. Further confirms he is troll.

    – I was just going to post that it appears I fell for a bad poll. I apologize. If I can dish it, I can take.

  72. NYCmike says:

    “But I’ve been assured he’s Reagan.”

    -By whom?

    You obviously don’t read very well.

    The comparison is always about how he has governed (past tense) in the past year. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

    The future may be very different…..which is why making a fuss about Trump’s boorishness and past sexual infidelities is so short-sighted, and is totally emotionally-based decision-making……of which you are Exhibit A.

  73. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 2, 2018 at 5:38 pm
    https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/03/02/zero-credibility-bret-stephens-makes-delusional-nevertrump-comparison/

    -Maybe Robbie and “CG” are Bret Stephens and Max Boot in real life….they are just as ludicrous.

    – You’re a clown. You might as well wear a big red nose everywhere you go.

    You claim we’re ridiculous for not kissing the feet of a lifelong NYC Democrat is batcrap crazy. Trump is a rotten person who is completely unqualified to for the job. If Obama had done any of the things Trump’s done, you’d have demanded McConnell and Ryan impeach him. But because Trump puts a R next his name and has promised you the RAISE Act, you threw your “conservative” integrity in the garbage can.

  74. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 2, 2018 at 7:50 pm
    “But I’ve been assured he’s Reagan.”

    -By whom?

    You obviously don’t read very well.

    The comparison is always about how he has governed (past tense) in the past year. Is that too difficult for you to understand?

    The future may be very different…..which is why making a fuss about Trump’s boorishness and past sexual infidelities is so short-sighted, and is totally emotionally-based decision-making……of which you are Exhibit A.

    – It will be fun to watch to defend Trump as he pushes a Schumer/Pelosi agenda next year if Democrats win back the House.

    Your organizing principle the last 13 months has been “MUST PROTECT THE TRUMP”.

  75. NYCmike says:

    ” If Obama had done any of the things Trump’s done,”

    -Which policies are you speaking about?

  76. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 2, 2018 at 7:55 pm
    ” If Obama had done any of the things Trump’s done,”

    -Which policies are you speaking about?

    – I don’t have any interest in going through all of the things Trump has done, especially regarding the Russia/Comey/Mueller matter. Of course, you know the list of things, but you play dumb about it because you have one goal and that’s to slavishly defend Trump. It’s really sad to watch as well.

  77. mnw says:

    Thx, Sheep

    Every once in a while, The Wise Men at HHR find a genuine acorn— like the blind pig.

  78. mnw says:

    Why don’t we just call this “The Robbie Website”? After it’s most famous thread pig.

  79. NYCmike says:

    You can’t name one concrete policy that our President put in place that is the same as Obama would have done?

    How about some “made-up” things like:

    Fast and Furious?
    IRS/Lois Lerner/501C organizations?
    Uranium One?
    Iran deal?
    Solyndra?

    Nothing like that?

  80. NYCmike says:

    “– I don’t have any interest in going through all of the things Trump has done, especially regarding the Russia/Comey/Mueller matter.”

    -What did Trump DO?

    That means he acted. What actions do you speak about? Firing Comey?

    Was that wrong? Was that not allowed? Illegal?

  81. NYCmike says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaoySOGlZ_U

    -I think Robbie walked away without giving Wonka anything back!

  82. Paul says:

    It has now been found out that Obama’s close family members were using meetings at the White House with Qatari leaders to secure funding for a property at 666 Fifth Avenue. Then encouraged Saudi Arabia slapping Qatar once the deal fell through. Oh wait, never mind that is Trump.

  83. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    88. Paul, do you have any evidence to back up this claim?

  84. mnw says:

    And if so… why should I care?

  85. Phil says:

    Of course he doesn’t. The guy just shows up whenever Robbie appears. They have this sort of weird “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” pact when it comes to Trump.

  86. Paul says:

    SDC: Are you referring to Kushner’s deals with the Qataris to get money for his buildings while in the White House? No big secret. It’s been in the news all week.

  87. Paul says:

    The fact that SanDiegoCitizen has no clue what I’m talking about shows his limited sources for news.

  88. Bitterlaw says:

    I will be here tonight until the iPad is out of power. Electricity may be out until Sunday. House is down to 60 degrees now.

    I blame that groundhog.

  89. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie has not yet mastered the Bitter approach:

    1. Always remember that Trump is a Democrat at heart. Ask Schumer’s banker.

    2. Always remember that Trump only believes in Trump.

    3. Always remember that Trump is a scumbag towards his wives and girlfriends.

    4. Accept that sometimes he will do something right – Gorsuch and lower judges and signing the tax bill.

    5. Accept that Hillary would never do anything good for the country.

  90. Tgca says:

    I did not know Robbie was versatile. Interesting.


    Robbie says:
    March 2, 2018 at 7:46 pm

    – I was just going to post that it appears I fell for a bad poll. I apologize. If I can dish it, I can take.

  91. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    March 2, 2018 at 9:13 pm
    I will be here tonight until the iPad is out of power. Electricity may be out until Sunday. House is down to 60 degrees now.
    ——————————————————————————————–
    BL, Stop being so cheap and take your family to a nice hotel where they can stay warm.

  92. MichiganGuy says:

    Michigan is leading the American comeback like never before! Since Election Day 2016, businesses large and small across America have created more than 2.5 million new jobs – including 58,000 new jobs right here in Michigan alone.

    https://twitter.com/VP/status/969714646167977984?s=19

  93. Bitterlaw says:

    MG – Thousands of people have no power. We don’t have many hotels and the roads are dangerous if we could get a room in Philadelphia

  94. Hugh says:

    Good luck bitter. Stay safe

  95. Bitterlaw says:

    Thanks, Hugh. Sweatshirts and blankets will get us through.

  96. Tgca says:

    Good luck Bitter. Keep warm. I feel your pain. It’s projected to be like 58 late Sunday night and into the wee hours of Monday morning in south Florida. It’s a bearable 72 right now.

  97. Hugh says:

    Tgca. Thanks for the SE Fl weather report. I am in Nola on business flying home tomorrow and am having heavy big green egg cooking days Sunday and Monday. 72 is damn cold but I think I can get through it.

  98. Tgca says:

    Hugh

    72 is the cool night temps but it should be back to a bearable 80 tomorrow. It was only like 84 today. Brghhh!

  99. Tina says:

    Muh inner democrat.

    Earlier it was muh trade war.

  100. Tina says:

    Where is the Ig reportt?

  101. Tina says:

    CNN
    @CNN
    Delta CEO: “We are supporters of the 2nd Amendment” (link: http://cnn.it/2tbrJFY) cnn.it/2tbrJFY

    A change in 48 hours?

    Is hogg available for comment?

  102. MichiganGuy says:

    Hillary Clinton gave Russia the U.S. technology for Hypersonic Intercontinental Nuke Missiles.
    .
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/stunning-hillary-clinton-gave-russia-us-technology-hypersonic-intercontinental-nuke-missiles/

  103. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    93. Paul says: “The fact that SanDiegoCitizen has no clue what I’m talking about shows his limited sources for news.”

    Paul, is this a joke. The source of your post is a wacky new source named Intercept. Here is a Wikipedia quote about from a former reporter for Intercept:

    “Silverstein described First Look as “a slowly unfolding disaster, not because of editorial meddling from the top, but because of what I came to believe was epic managerial incompetence. …For all of the bean counting and expense account-approving that Omidyar’s organizational structure imposed on us, they were shockingly disinterested in the actual journalism. …Top management was so aloof that it was hard to figure out who was in charge.”

    You and Robbie need to use better judgment in your source material.

  104. Paul says:

    SanDiegoCitizen, you need to get out more often.

  105. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Net change in registered voters since November 2016.
    “AZ: Rs +16k, PA: Rs +84k, CO: Ds +1k, FL: Rs +74k, NC: Rs +65k, ME: Rs +1k, NH: Rs +7k, NM: Rs +13k, NV: Rs +22k, IA: Rs +15k”
    https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/969765631670345730

    (H/T: CER at RRH)

  106. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Dem voter registration lead slips in Nevada.
    https://twitter.com/RalstonReports/status/969615453931814912
    Big news in voter reg in NV: I already told you Dems lost ground again in February. Burt it’s even worse for Dems. Attrition (voters knocked off list because did not respond to post cards sent to them) in Clark County reduced number by…..16,000! Now lead is below 60K statewide

    (H/T: Krazen at RRH)

  107. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Yesterday, the GOP in Colorado gained a legislative seat in the State House in a very unique way.

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/03/02/a-final-middle-finger-colorado-lawmaker-sticks-it-to-dems-after-expulsion-for-sexual-misconduct/

  108. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/airbornelayer88/status/969908700927311872/photo/1

    Nafta destroyed our balance of trade. Look at the graph.

  109. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/airbornelayer88/status/969908700927311872/photo/1

    Dolly Parton, i am not into politics, i am,an entertainer

  110. Wes says:

    Sheeple, of course the cancer on the NVGOP known as Danny Tarkanian will negate those gains if nominated over Dean Heller.

  111. Wes says:

    Mikey will be sad to know Martha McSally has significantly more money in her campaign coffers than Kelli Ward:

    https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/02/05/senate-candidates-martha-mcsally-kyrsten-sinema-separating-themselves-money-race/1089119001/

    That makes it an even steeper climb for Ward to become Arizona’s female Roy Moore–especially since Joe Arpaio is splitting the kook vote.

  112. mnw says:

    Dr. Ward would have taken out McCain if she’d had a clean one-on-one shot, & her candidacy (& consistent lead in the polls) forced Flake out— or played a major part in it.

    I admire her enormously. She deserves the thanks of a grateful nation, imo.

    McSally is clearly the better candidate.

  113. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mwn
    Are you as excited as the RRH posters seem to be about today’s election in Tasmania?
    FWIW, the center-right Party has been re-elected with a majority. RRH is celebrating!

  114. Wes says:

    I’m not sure how anyone can conclude Ward would have beaten McCain one on one, Mnw, when he beat her 51.7-39.2. Even if she’d gotten all the non-McCain vote, he was still above 50%.

  115. Bitterlaw says:

    Day 2 without power. We may have to eat the cat.

  116. MichiganGuy says:

    Georgia Gov GOP Primary:
    .
    Lt. Gov. Casey Cagle: 27
    Secretary of State Brian Kemp: 13
    Businessman Clay Tippins: 12
    Former state Sen. Hunter Hill: 11
    State Sen. Michael Williams: 5
    Undecided: 31
    .
    Dem Primary:
    .
    Former state House Minority Leader Stacey Abrams 29%
    Former state Rep. Stacey Evans 17% Undecided 54%
    .
    Gov General:
    .
    Cagle 45%
    Abrams 39%
    .
    Cagle 47%
    Evans 38%
    .

    https://cmgpremajcpolitics.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/ga218pollpart2.pdf
    4

  117. Tina says:

    Sorry bitter, it was 34this morning outside here in my compound. Inside 70.

    Hope you are safe and as well as well can be given your situation.

  118. mnw says:

    Wes

    I could explain, but we’d never agree anyway. Another poster argued that she had nothing to do with Flake’s exit either!
    (coughbullzhitcough)

  119. mnw says:

    Sheep

    Yeah, the RRH foreign election stuff would bore the ballz off a brass monkey.

    I TRUST Dr. Ward, btw. But McSally? “Trust” is just a word on a bank.

  120. mnw says:

    I’m not liking what I’m reading about PA-18 lately. “Coming In On A Wing and A Prayer” should be Saccone’s theme song.

  121. MichiganGuy says:

    * This is for Robbie *
    .
    Fake polls. Amateur-ish polls. They’re becoming a problem, and they’re likely to become a bigger one. But you don’t need to be a statistician to spot a suspicious poll. I’d recommend a few simple questions that everyone, professionals and amateurs, can ask of any poll to help avoid the suspect ones. And almost everyone, including me, has been fooled. (Almost the entire political media, for instance, was reporting on polls from Research 2000 before it was unveiled as a forgery.) There are going to be legitimate pollsters that don’t meet all of these criteria. But if you come across a “pollster” that fails most of these tests, I’d take your mouse off the retweet button and go on with your day.

    First and foremost, does it seem professional? That may seem too basic, but it works surprisingly well. Is a pollster’s press release riddled with typos? Reputable pollsters are run by publicly identified people, and if they’re putting their professional reputations on the line, they probably want to make a good first impression. Spelling simple words wrong or misspelling the candidates’ names is often a sign that either a pollster doesn’t know what it’s doing or isn’t on the level. Small mistakes usually come with big mistakes.
    Who? Who conducted the poll? Does the pollster have a long track record? Check out the polling firm’s website — are there real people with expertise listed there? Does the pollster even have a website and not just a Twitter account? (Websites are pretty easy to create, but some fake pollsters don’t even do that.) If a pollster doesn’t reveal the people working for the company, then you probably don’t want to cite the firm’s numbers.
    How? How was the survey conducted (e.g., via automated phone, live telephone interview or on the internet)? If it was on the internet, see how the pollster was getting people to participate in its polls (e.g., via its own panel or Google Surveys). If it was on the phone, find out which phone bank was doing the calling. If a pollster isn’t revealing its methodology, don’t trust it. Legitimate, professional pollsters prize transparency.
    What? What questions are being asked? If it’s a poll about an election, legitimate pollsters will typically ask respondents more than simply who they prefer, Candidate A versus Candidate B. The pollsters will want to find out why people are voting the way that they are (what issues matter to them, for example, or how favorably respondents view the candidates). At a minimum, pollsters will ask demographic questions in order to weight their data properly. If a pollster isn’t revealing this data and how it’s being weighted, be suspicious.
    When? This works two ways. First, when was the poll itself conducted? And how many people did it reach? Those are crucial, standard details every on-the-level pollster releases. Second, when was the polling company founded? If there’s no answer, be suspicious. If it was only very recently, treat its results with caution until it has a body of work to judge.
    Why? Polls cost money, so most pollsters aren’t conducting them on a whim. Academic institutions often poll to increase their name recognition, or to provide students an educational opportunity. Most professional pollsters conduct surveys to make money. If there isn’t something on the website that tells you why the pollster is conducting the poll, something is probably up.
    Where? Find out where the company is located. Even in the age of the internet, most pollsters have a physical location. An address that you should be able to send a piece of mail to. An actual place that you can check exists via a website like the Whitepages.

    Can you reach the pollster? Some fly-by-night operations won’t even have phone numbers on their websites for you to call. That’s probably not a good sign. If there is a phone number, see if it’s toll-free (

    costs more money to the company, but less to the consumer). If it’s not a toll-free number, see if the area code matches the area where the company is located. And if you’re really adventurous, pick up a phone and see if you can speak to a real person. (You can also try the “Shattered Glass” trick, if you’re suspicious.) If there’s no number, shoot the pollster an email (assuming its website includes an address). Do you get a response?
    Short on time? Check to see if polling websites like HuffPost Pollster or FiveThirtyEight have cited the pollster. If they haven’t, there’s probably a good reason.
    Still unsure? If you think there’s a fake poll out there, simply email FiveThirtyEight at polls@fivethirtyeight.com. We’ll look into it.
    .
    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-to-avoid-falling-for-a-fake-poll/amp/

  122. MichiganGuy says:

    The GOP has picked up a seat in the Colorado state house! I can’t believe no one is talking about this.
    .
    https://d-1575347981557802645.ampproject.net/1519771395920/frame.html

  123. Tina says:

    I do not like the way saccone is campaigning, the drat sounds more like a trump republican. The drats hold a 70k party id advantage.

  124. Robbie says:

    NYCmike? Jason fraud? Are you going to help out good ole Roy?

    The Associated Press
    ?@AP

    Former U.S. Senate candidate Roy Moore issues a plea for money to pay legal bills, saying his “resources have been depleted.”

  125. Tina says:

    Muh moore.

    Muh porn star.

    Muh trade war.

    Muh Russian.

    Rinse and repeat

  126. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 3, 2018 at 11:29 am
    Jebots still sad. No collusion per Schiff for Brains.
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/leaker-adam-schiff-finally-concedes-says-still-zero-proof-trump-russia-collusion-video/

    – Gotta say. It’s impressive Tinfoil continues to use Jim Hoft as a source considering he claimed the students at Parkland were crisis actors and that the Broward sheriff had an affair with a 16 year old girl and made her get an abortion.

    Facts have never been important to Tinfoil though.

  127. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 3, 2018 at 11:40 am
    http://thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/amazing-president-trumps-approval-rating-holds-49-2-points-better-barack-obama-time-presidency/
    Trump at 49.

    – Rasmussen? LOL! Why not just post a Drudge poll?

  128. mnw says:

    Tina 137

    I hope Trump still goes there to help Saccone. He cancelled his original trip because of the school shooting.

  129. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 3, 2018 at 11:40 am
    Muh moore.
    Muh porn star.
    Muh trade war.
    Muh Russian.
    Rinse and repeat

    – muh wiretap
    muh unmasking
    muh Susan Rice
    muh deep state
    muh silent coup
    muh Evelyn Farkas
    muh dossier funding
    muh Uranium One
    muh Strok text messages
    muh witch hunt
    muh memo

  130. Tina says:

    The drat is against the tax cuts.

    Saccone needs to do some better campaigning,

    I am sounding an alarm.

  131. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – We will be fine. I am more worried about the cat. He refuses to use a blanket. How cold is too cold for a cat?

  132. Tina says:

    Mnw, i am concerned about saccone.

  133. Tina says:

    Cats are tough, bl. The cat probably wants a human as a source of body heat, not a blanket.

  134. Tina says:

    Pooty Poot was interviewed by low rated Mayhem Kelly, who is fading rapidly.

    Putin is demanding evidence that the russians changed any vote tallys.

    Of course, swampstein through Mukehead indicates no voter rolls were changed.

    I think you can find more evidence of Mexico interfering in the election, than the russians.

  135. Tina says:

    All because her thighness coukd not campaign mire than 2 days in three weeks, and we are stuck with the russian hoax for 2 plus years.

    House Rs need to pull Muleheads funding. Choke him out.

  136. Tina says:

    ·
    33m
    Once land is stolen from White farmers in #SouthAfrica by the radical Marxist Black supremacist government, the U.S. should make it crystal clear that we will not provide one dollar, or one ounce of agricultural exports, in aid when the people begin to starve.

    Pull all money from that sheothole.

  137. Tina says:

    Mitchie is not allowing a vote of Grennel, Richard for .german ambassador.

    Mitchie must be homophobic.

  138. Tina says:

    ?? Retweeted
    Kim Dotcom
    Kim Dotcom
    @KimDotcom
    Robert Mueller is a fraud. The deep state hired him to impeach @realDonaldTrump. Mueller is charging random Russians who are not in the US & never will be. He knows there will never be a trial. It’s a media stunt. He’s desperate, he feels the heat, because he got NOTHING ON TRUMP
    7:28 PM · Mar 2, 2018

    He claims that the dnc “hack” was internal. Confirmed by other computer experts.

  139. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt has me cleaning out the garage today.
    His son is giving up his apartment and needs a place to store his things.

    Cash Cow on smoke break.

    No time to read comments or post my silliness today.
    *******************************************
    Text me if something blows up.

  140. Robbie says:

    Tea Party purists now doing stretching exercises so they can pretzel themselves into supporting Bernie Sanders style protectionism.

    Damian Paletta
    ?@damianpaletta

    Trump is now waging a multi-front trade war solely by using his Twitter feed. Zero policy details. Takes aim at Germany on Saturday. China and Canada are already spinning. U.K. furious.

  141. Bitterlaw says:

    The cat is warmer than me. He won’t share his spot with me.

  142. Bitterlaw says:

    I am indifferent on the South African situation. Whites who treated blacks like dirt now being treated like dirt by blacks is zzzzzzzz on my outrage scale.

  143. Tina says:

    Muh trade war wrote the hilbot

  144. Tina says:

    It could be the end to the bush dynasty.

    Two terrible presidents

    1 failed presidential candidate

  145. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 3, 2018 at 2:30 pm
    Muh trade war wrote the hilbot

    – Remember how you spent 2015 and 2016 lying by claiming you were for John Kasich? I do.

  146. Robbie says:

    If Tinfoil didn’t have Drudge and GatewayPundit to provide her with stories, she’d have no “sources”.

  147. JC says:

    @Bitter, that might be the most ignorant and stupidest thing you’ve ever said. Congrats. I’m not going to even bother with a rebuttal on that one, except to say this; trying to claim indifference as a cheap way to feel superior doesn’t work so well when one side wants to commit genocide.

    @robbie, I usually ignore you as the troll you are. But seriously, if you’re actually trying to change someone’s mind, then constantly reposting tweets from people with whom that person despises is probably the worst persuasion move imaginable.

  148. Tina says:

    Where is the ig report?

    I was told by a loon reading the ny times citing mccabes friends, as sources, that it was available.

  149. Tina says:

    Let them blow up their own sheothole.

    However, we need to oull any and all aid and assistance to s. africa. No more funding aholes.

  150. Tina says:

    The change in fl registration numbers are great news for us.

    We win Fl by 200k vote margin, if it continues in 2020.

  151. JC says:

    That said, I want absolutely no intervention in South Africa. It’s not our problem to fix.

  152. Tina says:

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2018/03/trump_preparing_to_use_a_pardon_to_highlight_the_depth_of_hillarys_national_security_crimes.html

    Trump to pardon Kristian Saucier. He took a military picture and got a fulll sentence, while Her Thighness and Humas did more, and nothing happpened.

  153. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw has no concept of history. Apartheid ended because a white government in 1991 voted to end it. That’s 27 years ago. How many of those farmers supported it? How many were even farmers back then?

    I used to think only liberals experienced white guilt. Thrn I met Bitterlaw.

  154. Wes says:

    Then*

  155. Robbie says:

    JC says:
    March 3, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    @robbie, I usually ignore you as the troll you are. But seriously, if you’re actually trying to change someone’s mind, then constantly reposting tweets from people with whom that person despises is probably the worst persuasion move imaginable.

    – Interesting. A troll at HHR is now considered to be a lifelong conservative Republican who has chosen not to throw away his integrity by supporting an erratic, incompetent, lifelong NYC Democrat buffoon for president.

    Also, I’m sorry to learn you’re a snowflake who can’t handle reading tweets from people you despise. Have you thought about and an emotional support dog to help soothe you?

  156. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 3, 2018 at 2:43 pm
    Where is the ig report?
    I was told by a loon reading the ny times citing mccabes friends, as sources, that it was available.

    – Where all of the indictments for Uranium One? You swore up and down last Summer Hillary was really the target of Mueller.

  157. Wes says:

    Trump’s voter registration history:

    1897-199/Republican

    1999-2001/Indy

    2001-2009/Dem

    2009-2011/Republican

    2011/Indy

    2012-present/Republican

    In no way is he a “lifelong NYC Democrat.”

  158. Wes says:

    1987-1999. Sorry. I transposed numbers.

  159. Tgca says:

    Sounds like Trump went Dem during Bush years. Jebs fault.

    I went Indy myself is 2006 and still am. That being said:

    Disband the Constitution.
    Make Trump king!!!
    Long live King Trump.

    Queen Melania!
    Princess Ivanka!
    Prince Barron!

  160. NYCmike says:

    It looks like Wes found the information that has been posted for at least 2 years now, mostly for Robbie’s sake (and jason, our newest TrumpChump, earlier).

    Much appreciated, as correcting Robbie seems to be a full-time job, and I don’t have that sort of time to waste.

  161. NYCmike says:

    Robbie reminds me of that movie where the band can turn the speakers up to 11…….

  162. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    158. Bitterlaw says: “I am indifferent on the South African situation. Whites who treated blacks like dirt now being treated like dirt by blacks is zzzzzzzz on my outrage scale.”

    You can be indifferent all you want, but its no excuse for the complete stupidity of what South Africa is contemplating. Here is what happened in Zimbabwe when they took white farmers land.

    “Zimbabwe’s economic downfall

    “The biggest risk to production would be if the threat of disorderly or rapid expropriation caused capital flight or failure to invest in the land,” says Mike Albertus, assistant professor at the Department of Political Science at the University of Chicago. In Zimbabwe, this is exactly what happened. Where there was once a flourishing agricultural sector, with an abundance of wildlife and natural resources, the country is now in need of food imports to feed its population, of which over two thirds live in poverty. But food shortages are not the only factor which made the Zimbabwean government reverse around its former expropriation policies. Extreme hyperinflation followed in the years of Mugabe’s land-grabbing, destroying pension funds and bringing foreign investment to a halt. But how did unfunded expropriation contribute to hyperinflation and eventually to economic downfall?

    Although taking land and giving it to the disadvantaged without compensation to the owners sounds like an easy solution to achieve income equality, it’s not that simple, says property rights lawyer Elmien Du Plessis from North-West University in Potchefstroom, South Africa. In a situation where indebted farmers with mortgages on their land lose it without compensation, they will no longer be able to pay back their loans. Banks would make losses, and if many ex-owners found themselves in the same situation, it could trigger a banking crisis, setting off a spiral of hyperinflation with disastrous consequences for the whole economy.”

    http://www.dw.com/en/land-reform-will-zimbabwes-economic-downfall-be-repeated-in-south-africa/a-41972001

  163. Tgca says:

    179 SDC

    Agreed! It’s stupid and dangerous to continue economic development and investment in a place when any govt seizes assets and transfer the wealth.

    Remember, many advocate that here in the US as well, as they claim America was built on the back of minorities, Asians in the western US, Latinos in the Southwest, and blacks in the southeastern US.

    Since I am half Latino, I expect my share of reparations from all you damn Gringos here at HHR.

  164. Tgca says:

    Current temp northern NJ 47
    Current temp south Florida 74

    What’s the problem?

  165. mnw says:

    I finally got a letter from Hawley’s campaign— the first communication of any kind I’ve received since I contributed, appx 6 weeks ago.

  166. mnw says:

    National Review now pretty much expresses the same views as our trolls (albeit literate & well-written, unlike those tenth grade dropouts). It isn’t just a few writers— it’s everybody over there as near as I can tell.

  167. Cash Cow TM says:

    Bitter,

    My wife and her gal pals are at the Philadelphia Flower show this weekend.

    They decided not to go to dinner this time at Franny’s this time.
    ***********************************************
    Last night they are at Victor’s–roving opera singer and good food too, they said.

  168. Cash Cow TM says:

    I was typing that for Walt.

    Walt’s wife.

    I do not have a wife.
    I am a single gal.
    Eat in the field…play the field.

  169. Cash Cow TM says:

    Should have been plural… opera SINGERS…

  170. mnw says:

    I read an interesting book by a former Zim farmer— who had almost single-handedly made Zim table grapes the dominant source of table grapes in Europe.

    His business is now given over to subsistence farming, and there are no more Zim grapes produced. The farmer was born in Zim and still loves his country.

    It isn’t land wannabe farmers need— it’s access to credit, btw.

    And also, the “war veterans” who took his land were never war veterans.

  171. Tina says:

    I went indy one groper 41 betrayed reagan and spouted the new world order line,

  172. Tina says:

    – Where all of the indictments for Uranium One? You swore up and down last Summer Hillary was really the target of Mueller.

    Deflection.

    Again, where is the oig report you touted yesterday.

  173. mnw says:

    Kudlow, Laffer & Stephen Moore hate Trump’s tariffs, & those 3 are Trump’s guys.

  174. DW says:

    In the political polling NCAA basketball conference, the MAAC, Monmouth, Marist and Siena all lost in the first round of the conference tourney, while Quinnipiac won twice to advance to the semifinal round.

  175. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 3, 2018 at 3:17 pm
    Robbie reminds me of that movie where the band can turn the speakers up to 11…….

    – You remind me of someone who always wants to lose because you always support candidates who lose.

    If I were you, I’d be embarrassed that all your years of proclaiming to be a Tea Party purist were nothing but a sham exposed by your support of Donald Trump.

    But go ahead and just keep telling us how he’s a conservative as he talks about taking guns without due process and starts idiotic trade wars. No doubt, you’ll find a way to say his tariffs are ok just as you excused his remarks about Charlottesville’s by barfing up some idiocy about Antifa.

  176. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    March 3, 2018 at 4:50 pm
    National Review now pretty much expresses the same views as our trolls (albeit literate & well-written, unlike those tenth grade dropouts). It isn’t just a few writers— it’s everybody over there as near as I can tell

    – Aww. Poor little baby. Can’t handle the fact not everyone has thrown away their integrity like you have to support an erratic, unqualified, fool I see. I guess it’s tough times for Trump cultists like you.

    How dare the National Review adhere to their long held conservative beliefs laid out by their founder more than 60 years ago, right? Don’t they know conservatism is dead and gone and Trump populism has replaced it? Don’t they know that tariffs and gun grabs are awesome precisely because Trump wants them? That’s all that matters, right? What Trump wants.

  177. Tina says:

    National retreat online

  178. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    5h
    The United States has an $800 Billion Dollar Yearly Trade Deficit because of our “very stupid” trade deals and policies. Our jobs and wealth are being given to other countries that have taken advantage of us for years. They laugh at what fools our leaders have been. No more!

  179. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    March 3, 2018 at 2:58 pm
    Trump’s voter registration history:
    1897-199/Republican
    1999-2001/Indy
    2001-2009/Dem
    2009-2011/Republican
    2011/Indy
    2012-present/Republican
    In no way is he a “lifelong NYC Democrat.”

    – Oh come on, Wes. You know as well as I do Trump has used party affiliation for nothing more than expediency. Whether Trump had a R, a D, or an I after his meant nothing to him.

    Trump just used affiliation to gain access. That’s why he changed to R in 2011. He knew he could use the birther issue as boob bait for the FoxNews Republican base to build a political foundation. He no more cared about Republican policy and orthodoxy than the man in the moon.

    The one constant in Trump’s political life though has been policies that have always aligned him with Democrats, like trade.

  180. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 3, 2018 at 5:58 pm
    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    5h
    The United States has an $800 Billion Dollar Yearly Trade Deficit because of our “very stupid” trade deals and policies. Our jobs and wealth are being given to other countries that have taken advantage of us for years. They laugh at what fools our leaders have been. No more!

    – Tinfoil Tin has gone from a conservative Republican in 2004 when she supported GBW to a conspiracy theorist nutcase who believes that whatever Trump says is right.

  181. Tina says:

    Where is the if report?

  182. Chicon says:

    197 – ah, the era of compassionate conservative…..

  183. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    181. Tgca says:
    “Current temp northern NJ 47
    Current temp south Florida 74

    What’s the problem?”

    The problem is I just drove over Cajon Pass into the L.A. Basin and it was snowing, and its been freezing cold — records are being broken. Its also raining hard.

    California’s saintly governor Moonbeam promised us at the beginning of 2018, that after the a flunk rainy year in 2017, we were once again in permanent drought conditions in California. Now were getting snow in areas that there has not been snow for decades and record cold — where’s our global warming?

  184. Chicon says:

    2004 – the “true” conservative Republican who oversaw an expanding debt and a ballooning federal government?

  185. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    196. “Wes says:
    March 3, 2018 at 2:58 pm
    Trump’s voter registration history:
    1897-199/Republican
    1999-2001/Indy
    2001-2009/Dem
    2009-2011/Republican
    2011/Indy
    2012-present/Republican
    In no way is he a “lifelong NYC Democrat.”

    Actually my voter registration varies like that. You have to get a taste of all parties to see that they are all rotten.

    In California the choice between crony capitalism Republicans, and Democrats who vary by the degree of wackiness (and are beholden to the public employee unions) is a good reason to register NP — no party. Who I vote for in an election is based on which candidate is least awful.

  186. Tina says:

    Debt,

    Large deficits.

    Nclb

    Open borders

    Medicare part d.

    Iraq.

    A real conservative

  187. mnw says:

    National Retreat Online?

    Never heard that before. I like it.

    One thing about Trump “who is not conservative”?

    The true conservatives got their adz kicked & “not a real conservative” saved this nation from another dose of the Clintons.

    Did u see the New Yorker magazine cover that never ran? The one with Hillary gazing at the beautiful bright moon? Be VERY glad they had to zhitcan that.

    As for Wobbles calling me a “Trump cultist,” well I got banned at Lucianne for mocking him and the posters who admired him. Some cultist I am!

  188. Tgca says:

    Uh…wasn’t Reagan a registered Dem from 1932 to 1952 who campaigned for FDR and supported him, his programs, and many Dems, including campaigning against Nixon in the 40s. He was also a big fan of Woodrow Wilson, hardly a conservative. But he changed and became a conservative except for some of his massive spending which would not be considered conservative today.

    So no one expects Trump, a native NYer to be a conservative personally, but so far, he has governed more conservative then the last 2 GOP presidents so I’ll judge him by his record instead of his party registration.

  189. mnw says:

    Tgca

    Absolutely. Well said.

    Not to compare Trump (or anyone else) to Churchill, but that great man changed political parties three times.

  190. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    207. Believe Reagan may actually have quoted FDR at the Republican convention during one of his nomination speeches.

  191. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Reagan’s comments at FDR Library 50th Anniversary lunch in 1989

    “I was one of those millions. Franklin Roosevelt was the first President I ever voted for, the first to serve in my lifetime that I regarded as a hero, and the first I ever actually saw; that was in 1936, a campaign parade in Des Moines, where I was working as a radio announcer. What a wave of affection and pride swept through that crowd, as he passed by in an open car—a familiar smile on his lips, jaunty and confident, drawing from us a reservoir of confidence and enthusiasm some of us had forgotten we had in those days, those hard years. He really did convince us that the only thing we had to fear was, as Senator Mitchell has told us, fear itself.

    And it was that ebullience, that infectious optimism that made one young sportscaster think that maybe he should be more active as a citizen. I assure you, though, he never tied that to one day holding public office and certainly never dreamed that destiny would take him to the same office F.D.R. held.”

  192. Messy57 says:

    141. The definition of “likely voters” on which the poll is based, is basically this: those tea partiers and right-wingers who voted in 2010 and ’14 in order to protest the existence of Obama.

    It also presupposes that the young and the left would stay home due to indifference and sloth.

    Ain’t gonna happen this time.

  193. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Yesterday, I saw Pennsylvania political guru, Charles Gerow, on CNN’s Smerconish Show.
    He was pretty bullish about the GOP chances in the upcoming PA-8 Congressional race.
    Gerow claims that the ads connecting Pelosi and C. Lamb(D) have been effective in a CD where The Donald remains popular.
    Also, Saccone’s(R) slogan–“I was Trump even before Trump”–seems to have caught on.

    He warned that if conservatives remain complacent and stay home, Lamb could win.

    https://twitter.com/Charlie_Gerow

  194. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    RIP to a truly great long distance, record setting runner, Sir Roger Bannister, the first under four minute miler.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/43273249?ocid=socialflow_facebook&ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbcnews&ns_source=facebook

    What is the mile record currently?

  195. Tina says:

    Aeticle on Seth Rich.

    The last paragraphs about the “dnc hack” are significant about file transfers and memory sticks.

  196. Chicon says:

    Tina out to trigger Robbie this morning!

  197. Messy57 says:

    213. He’s a professional Republican shill. Of course he would say that. I bet he thought Romney would win Pennsylvania in ’12.

  198. Messy57 says:

    Zerohedge is a vehicle for conservative disinformation. So are Gatway Pundit and infowars.

  199. Messy57 says:

    205. According to the article on the disinformation site “Gateway Pundit” the thing was an “illegal leak” not an illegal wiretap.

    The wiretap, which was on the Russian ambassador’s phone, was totally legal.

    Flynn knows that if he tried to withdraw his guilty plea, Mueller would go after him like a ton of bricks, and he’d be facing life in prison instead of a maximum of six months.

    Besides, that was over a month ago and he would have filed a motion already.

  200. Tina says:

    Messy pass the bong to coreeeee.

  201. mnw says:

    220 Disintigrate (sic)

    is still peddling legal nonsense, I see.

    A troll who spells ‘disintegrate’ with three “i”s? Talking about federal Rules? Really?

    213 Sheep

    Thanks for the link. I hadn’t heard anything good about that race for weeks. Hope Gerow is right— I’m not familiar with him.

  202. Tina says:

    No not out to trigger the loon, chicon. As far as seth rich is concern, i think the investigation into him was screwed up by dc police,

    I do not think it was a robbery. No items were taken from him.

    I simply believe that the dnc hack was not done by the russians. I have read that 4 computer experts indicate an internal theft of data given the speed of transfer, ie theft of data from a stick.

  203. Tina says:

    You only have crowdsource indicating otherwise, and comedy taking their word, despite the data transfer speed,

    Crowdsource, bought by the ds and owned by Russians.

  204. Tina says:

    Messy,

    As incoming nsa director, flynn, would reach out to his foreign counterparts, as all transitions have done before. You know that.

    This was a set up, egged on by sjw yates who lied.

  205. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mwn ,jason,Bitter, Messy et al:
    Here is the link to the full 6 minute Charles Gerow/Smerconish interview:

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2018/03/03/does-trumps-popularity-translate-into-votes.cnn

  206. mnw says:

    Sheep

    Thx, again. I want to watch that.

  207. mnw says:

    Saccone’s cartoon ad made me cringe a little. Lamb is awfully smooth and telegenic.

  208. Bitterlaw says:

    Day 3 without power. We decided against eating the cat since there was no way to cook him. We went to a restaurant instead.

    The house was at 69 degrees on Friday. It is now 51. I can’t light the fireplace since we don’t use it much and it has not been cleaned in years. No need to start a fire in the chimney.

  209. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mwn:”Lamb is awfully smooth and telegenic.”

    The word “slick” comes to mind!

  210. mnw says:

    Sheep

    Indeed. But still…

  211. mnw says:

    From what Gerow said, it seems as if Trump is still planning an election-related trip to western PA. I wasn’t sure that was going to be re-scheduled.

  212. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #232 mnw
    I guess that the Gerow interview did little to curtail your anxiety about the PA CD-8 contest.
    As with most political races, it will depend on turnout. If conservatives vote, Saccone will prevail.

    IMHO, this ballot has a similar feel to the GA race between Ossoff(D) and Handel(R). The GOP turnout in that race was robust because the national and local GOP got heavily involved.
    And yes, a Trump visit would be very helpful.

  213. mnw says:

    Sheep

    I always thought Ossoff was a terrible candidate & that Handel wasn’t bad. (I thought that before the election.)

    Because of his military record & family ties to the area, Lamb has some authenticity which Ossoff lacked. (Some wag once described Ossoff as a ‘virtual candidate.’)

    As for Saccone… he sure isn’t a good fundraiser. I hope he’s a better campaigner.

  214. Walt says:

    Bitter,

    What is wrong with you people in Philly?
    ——————————————–
    My wife texted to say the hotel there this morning refused her credit card.

    Power problems…refusing a good cerdit card…

  215. Cash Cow TM says:

    I have been deluged with text messages from HHR folks about an update on the WV teachers strike.

    So…here is an update.

    House passsed 5% pay raise for teachers and 3% for all other school personnel and state workers.

    Senate passed 4% pay raise for everyone–teachers and everyone else.

    Senate inadvertently sent the wrong bill back the House.
    They had to go through procedures to recall the bill.

    House refuses unanimously to concur with the Senate bill for 4% for everyone.

    Bill now goes to a conference committee.

    Teachers now say strike will continue indefinitely if they do not get their 5%.

    The difference between the teacher pay raises between the House and Senate versions is $404. (total of $13MM in a $4.7B budget.)

  216. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    Mexican assumes American’s identity for 37 years, steals $361,000 in govt benefits…
    *********************************************
    Who says America is not a land of opportunity?

  217. Tgca says:

    230 Bitter

    51 degrees is not so bad so man up,and stop being a girly man.

    Layer your clothing? I used to walk around the house with 3 pairs of socks. We grew up living in dives in Newark where we occasionally had no heat because the furnace did not work and the windows would freeze over so we made use of it by storing perishables on the window sills because we had a non-functioning fridge as well. Be creative dude!

    As for the chimney, that’s your fault for not prioritizing your wife’s house chores. Let this be a teachable moment for you.

    This is not complicated. Geez!

  218. NYCmike says:

    You have a fireplace and you don’t use it?? WTF!?!? I would love to have a fireplace!

    Get that cleaned as soon as you can, and then light a fire at least once a week during the winter, and then sit on the couch and handle the night shift here at The HedgeHog!

    Don’t be Bitter, Law! Be the fire sitter, my social justice warrior!

  219. jason says:

    “Labor unions and liberal Democrats are in the unusual position of applauding Trump’s approach, while Republicans and an array of business groups are warning of dire economic and political consequences if he goes ahead with the tariffs.

    Trade politics often cut along regional, rather than ideological, lines, as politicians reflect the interests of the hometown industries and workers. But rarely does a debate open so wide a rift between a president and his party — leaving him almost exclusively with support from his ideological opposites.

    “Good, finally,” said Sen. Sherrod Brown, an Ohio Democrat and progressive as he cheered Trump’s move. Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, a Democrat who has called for Trump to resign, agreed.”

  220. jason says:

    Maybe this will end for good the nonsense that Trump is a conservative.

  221. jason says:

    And maybe this will end Wobbie’s nonsense that I “support Trump on everything”.

    The tariff idea is the most asinine of Trump’s policies so far, and will only harm the US in long run.

    Really stupid and self defeating.

  222. jason says:

    And of course, this is like the communist Pope’s popularity with people who are not friend’s of the Catholic Church, just happy he is doing their bidding.

    Trump won’t really get any support from the fat cat union bosses who love his protectionist BS, they will continue contributing exclusively to Democrats.

  223. Tgca says:

    Drudge has article link on priest prostitution and drug scandal.

    ITALIAN ARCHDIOCESE ROCKED BY SCANDAL: DRUGS, GAY PROSTITUTION, BLACKMAIL

    As many as 60 priests implicated.

    I’M SHOCKED. This can’t be so!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HMIyDf3gBoY

  224. Messy57 says:

    222. Troll? what troll? I’ve been here at HHR since the Bush II administration. It had some of the best poll coverage in the nation back in the day.

  225. mnw says:

    Were you more, or even less, literate “back in the day,” trolly?

  226. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt – I called the hotel. They said they refused to take a credit card from a state without an education system.

    My wife is at the flower show now. I had to stay home and lose another basketball game because my two best players had other sports today – field hockey and lacrosse.

    In regard to the temperature in my house, I just keep adding layers. I worry about the cat. Today I bought those chemical packets you can put in gloves to warm hands. He is sleeping on them now.

  227. NYCmike says:

    CCL

  228. jason says:

    Messy doesn’t think she is troll.

    Beyond professional help, there is no cure for a delusion that big.

  229. jason says:

    However, I think the Dems are right about voter fraud.

    It would be a lot harder to register to vote, I am sure that can’t be done.

    “SAN DIEGO (AP) — A Mexican man who was deported twice and had a history of arrests was able to assume the identity of an American citizen and receive more than $360,000 in government benefits for nearly four decades, California court records show.

    “Andres Avelino Anduaga used a fake birth certificate starting in 1980 to develop a seemingly legitimate persona by applying for a California driver’s license, Social Security number and U.S. passport, according to documents obtained by the San Diego Union-Tribune . The official U.S. documents identified him as Abraham Riojos, born in Texas in 1958.

    Anduaga, who’s actually 66 years old and a resident of Tijuana, Mexico, pleaded guilty last week in San Diego to theft of public property and being a previously removed unauthorized immigrant in the U.S., the newspaper reported Saturday.

    He has agreed to pay back government agencies what he stole but could face additional fines and 12 years in prison when sentenced in May.

    Anduaga’s charade began to unravel in April 2015 during a standard review to determine whether he was still eligible for disability benefits. The man who called himself Riojos gave an address in the Southern California city of Chula Vista, according to the criminal complaint. But when investigators visited the home in January 2016, the landlord admitted Riojos never lived there but instead resided in Mexico, court papers show.

    Investigators turned to border crossing records, finding frequent travels indicating Riojos had likely been living in Mexico.

    Further investigation revealed the man claiming to be Riojos had a rap sheet that included 21 different names and six dates of birth, dating back to 1974, the newspaper reported. They included a firearms violation, forgery, cocaine possession and multiple DUIs, according to prosecutors.

    Immigration records showed he’d been deported in 1994 and again in 2000.”

  230. Messy57 says:

    247. Infantile response to truth. Sad, very sad.

  231. Messy57 says:

    252. One guy. Proof they all are, right?

  232. Tina says:

    Where is the ig report? The jebot assured me it was out,

  233. jason says:

    There is a silver lining in higher prices to consumers with Trump’s idiotic tariffs.

    A can of Coke will cost more.

  234. jason says:

    Messy probably didn’t finish grade school, but that is not her fault.

  235. NYCmike says:

    “Maybe this will end for good the nonsense that Trump is a conservative.”

    -The argument is that he governed, for the last year, as a conservative.

    The argument is NOT that he is a conservative.

    Also, shall we apply the same logic to the other Republican Presidents, from the past 38 years, who put tariffs in place?

    Or, will we just willfully ignore those actions?

  236. NYCmike says:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/02/the-russians-colluded-massively-with-democrats/

    -I don’t remember Robbie telling us that Deroy Murdock is a “TRUMP CHUMP”.

    “CG” will have ignore certain actions taken by Trump which tell a different story from his continued insistence that Trump is working with the Russians.

  237. mnw says:

    NYC

    Doin’ what I can, I assure you.

  238. Bitterlaw says:

    Saying that other Presidents made a mistake by imposing tariffs does not excuse or justify Trump imposing tariffs.

  239. jason says:

    NYT unhappy with Italy election results.

    “ROME — Italians registered their dismay with the European political establishment on Sunday, handing a majority of votes in a national election to hard-right and populist forces that ran a campaign fueled by anti-immigrant anger, early results showed.

    The election, the first in five years, was widely seen as a bellwether of the strength of populists on the continent and how far they might advance into the mainstream. The answer was far, very far.”

    Translation: Marxists did not win.

  240. jason says:

    Also, shall we apply the same logic to the other Republican Presidents, from the past 38 years, who put tariffs in place?”

    Ah yes, the most stupid of logic… “someone else was wrong too”.

    Zzzzzzz

  241. jason says:

    The argument is that he governed, for the last year, as a conservative.

    The argument is NOT that he is a conservative.”

    Yes, but now we can put that “argument” to rest.

    The fat cat big labor union bosses say thank you!

  242. Tgca says:

    I think this tariff talk may all be posturing and Trump seeing if he can push others into negotiating. We’ll see. Either way, tariffs on steel alone won’t break the economy unless it expands into other areas.

  243. mnw says:

    I agree with Tgca.

    If not tariffs, than what exactly is the U.S. supposed to DO about shameless foreign dumping? File a complaint with the WTO?

    Please. We’d have a better chance of getting relief if we just gave up & went to Lourdes.

  244. Tina says:

    Yeah, it is all bluster.

    He did the same in daca and guns.

    Drats blew up both because it was ban all guns vs nothing, or daca and no border wall or enforcement,

  245. Tina says:

    The bgger fight wikl be to end nafta, which is and was a terrible trade deal.

    Allowed the chinese to back door their goods.

  246. Tgca says:

    I agree that MNW agrees with me. I think everyone should agree with me but sometimes that is just wishful thinking.

  247. NYCmike says:

    Clearly did not excuse Trumps tariffs. They are wrong, just like Reagan and Bush were wrong.

    Go back and read what I wrote, Bitterlaw.

    And then correct Jason’s logic, unless he is willing to use it to define the other Republican Presidents as well.

    Thanks in advance for actually understanding what I wrote.

    Cheers.

  248. Tina says:

    I am trigger d by muh trade war.

    Jebot

  249. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    270. “I think everyone should agree with me but sometimes that is just wishful thinking.”

    Perhaps everyone does agree with you, but they just don’t know it yet.

  250. jason says:

    Clearly did not excuse Trumps tariffs. They are wrong,”

    You can stop there.

  251. jason says:

    I think this tariff talk may all be posturing”

    One can only hope, but I am not optimistic.

  252. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    To claim we have free trade with China is total baloney. China has consistently locked out American goods, and created a one way street in trade in which they benefit at our expense, as was pointed out in a Heritage Foundation report:

    https://www.heritage.org/testimony/the-most-important-chinese-trade-barriers

    To claim tariffs are wrong in this type of a situation is meaningless. The Chinese already in effect already have them.

  253. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    276. Here is a comment from another blog:

    “Academicians,. . . may see the benefit of traditional globalist policies in the theoretical sense from their ivory towers. The reality is that these policies have resulted in a massive shift of employment to countries with low wages and permissive regulatory environments. The negative impact is clearly visible in what is referred to as middle (“flyover”) America. Globalist policies put the U.S. at a disadvantage, and badly impacted employment in manufacturing. Global free trade policies shift jobs and manufacturing to countries with the lowest wages; and which often provide government subsidies; or otherwise set up trade barriers limiting the ability of American businesses to compete. Outsourcing becomes a necessity for economic survival; in the face of it, scholarly articles about the benefits of “an overdue redirection of U.S. strategic investment towards” another part of the world do not carry much weight.”

  254. Tina says:

    Trump just tweetd about nafta. To,d you this was and is the main issue. I would not be overly concern about the muh tariffs.

    Focus on nafta. That is a poor trade deal that has screwed us.

  255. Messy57 says:

    Steve Bannon just won the Italian election. Five Star and the League parties together have a majority. Burlosconi’s party just got 14% of the vote.

  256. Tina says:

    Earlier the conspiracy loons blamed the italian election loss on pooty poot.

  257. NYCmike says:

    “You can stop there.”

    -Exactly my point.

    As we saw with Reagan, Bush, and now Trump, tariffs alone do not speak to one’s conservatism.

    Thanks for changing your point of view. It was bound to happen eventually. Most humans do get tired of being wrong, eventually (took a little longer in your case).

  258. NYCmike says:

    Also, not sure how some people dismiss the information about Chinese restrictions. If you are for free trade but other countries have barriers to free trade, then blind faith in the words “free trade” does nobody any good…….unless of course, “blind faith” in Quechua translates into “I am right and you are wrong so pffffftttttt”.

  259. NYCmike says:

    “Saying that other Presidents made a mistake by imposing tariffs does not excuse or justify Trump imposing tariffs.”

    -That is why I have not excused Trump’s actions.

  260. Chicon says:

    The question unanswered is what should the American government do, if anything, when a foreign government does not play by the rules, to the detriment of American industry and citizens?

    So far, I’ve read little here about how address the issue other that tariffs are bad.

  261. DW says:

    I know of a story where a guy was visiting a close relative who happened to be living/working in another country–a country that is supposedly friendly toward us. To help the relative, the guy brings in a new laptop computer to give to the relative, but upon checking into the country, the gov’t confiscated it, and wouldn’t give it back until the guy coughed up $1,700. The only reason for this was the country needs money and the USA is perceived as abundantly wealthy.

    So yes, other countries are robbing us left and right.

  262. Tina says:

    Chicon, interesting point, i only heard the same,

    Muh trade war.

  263. jason says:

    The question unanswered is what should the American government do, if anything, when a foreign government does not play by the rules, to the detriment of American industry and citizens?

    So far, I’ve read little here about how address the issue other that tariffs are bad.”

    In the first place, most accusations of “dumping” and “not playing by the rules” are really code for
    “I am not competitive and I want to be protected for not being competitive”. That is the real reason we lost a lot of the steel industry. In a globalized economy you have to be competitive in a world market, and tariffs won’t accomplish that.

    The way you become competitive is through a pro-business climate as far as taxes and regulations go and investing in technology and innovation.

    All tariffs and trade wars accomplish is to raise prices and hurt the consumers, in effect lowering the standard of living and costing jobs for those who work in the supply chain of imported goods.

    Tariffs are the dream of the fat cat union bosses and the Democrats because if gives them something for nothing.

    In the history of the US, we have benefited much more by free trade than we have been hurt by it. That is why Republicans have always been on the side of free trade, and Democrats against it.

    That is one of the main reasons Trump’s R party is not my party.

    Tariffs are stupid cop-out, a sign of weakness not strength.

  264. NYCmike says:

    https://amgreatness.com/2018/03/05/woman-high-castle/

    -A bit over the top, but some of it is warranted.

  265. NYCmike says:

    “That is one of the main reasons Trump’s R party is not my party.
    Tariffs are stupid cop-out, a sign of weakness not strength.”

    -I AM POSITIVE jason also said this when Bush and Reagan instituted their respective tariffs.

    #consistency

    (someone explain this to Bitterlaw)

  266. DW says:

    288 – I am not big on tariffs either, but we do need to do something to protect our individual citizens from getting robbed at gunpoint just trying to do business in these countries, per my example above.

  267. jason says:

    Steve Bannon just won the Italian election. Five Star and the League parties together have a majority. Burlosconi’s party just got 14% of the vote.”

    Huh, you are an idiot. I still suggest finishing grade school for spelling and for reading comprehension.

    If you want to comment on something you don’t understand, it’s better to not say anything.

    The League and Berlusconi are the in the SAME COALITION (center right). The center right coalition got the most seats in the election. In effect the coalition engineered by Berlusconi won the election with 37% of the vote

    5 star is the anti-establishment party which got the most seats any single party got with 33% of the vote.

    The Marxists came in third with 23%.

    Risultati CAMERA
    LISTE
    VOTI % SEGGI

    CENTRO DESTRA

    12.045.000 37.01%

    MOVIMENTO 5 STELLE

    10.624.221 32.64%

    CENTRO SINISTRA

    7.444.726 22.87%

  268. NYCmike says:

    https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/nbcs-chuck-todd-trump-announced-tariffs-because-his-consuming-anger-mueller

    -“”Well, first of all, it wasn’t sudden,” Ross said. “The president, ever since the campaign, has said he’s going to do something to fix steel and aluminum.”

    Who to believe, Chuck Todd and Robbie, or Wilbur Ross?

  269. jason says:

    The center right coalition got 258 seats, the populists got 227 and the main Marxist party got 104 so far.

  270. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t know how you call erratic a decision that he announced in 2016 that he was going to help steel and aluminum,” Ross responded. “How is that erratic? That’s consistent. This president has been more consistent in following up his campaign promises than anyone I can remember.”

    -Not sure if I agree with the decision, but the media spin is just NOT BELIEVABLE……well, unless you fly a plane……..

  271. jason says:

    Wilbur Ross is a protectionist moron, and I said this when Trump picked him.

    It’s not a good sign Trump listened to him when I am sure he had more intelligent input from others.

  272. NYCmike says:

    “The Marxists came in third with 23%. ”

    -One more good reason why my father’s family left Italy!

  273. NYCmike says:

    “Wilbur Ross is a protectionist moron,”

    -Who asked your opinion?

    I linked to his statement to combat the media/Robbie b*llsh*t about doing it out of anger.

    Geez, do you need every little thing explained to you? Get your head out of that scrapple can and take a breath!

  274. NYCmike says:

    Diamond Jim?

  275. NYCmike says:

    CCC

  276. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump wants tariffs – Gift to unions.

    Trump wants massive infrastructure projects. – Gift to unions.

    See the trend?

  277. Bitterlaw says:

    My power came back at 3:00 a.m. The cat is fine. Oh. My wife and daughter are fine, too.

  278. Mr.Vito says:

    I dont like tariffs for good trade partners that do not abuse human rights and do not steal our intellectual property.

    Countries who ruin R&D and abuse workers, I couldnt give a rats ass about.

    If the goods are cheaper because of these things, than it is artificial to me.

  279. jason says:

    As we saw with Reagan, Bush, and now Trump, tariffs alone do not speak to one’s conservatism.”

    Sorry, moron.

    Reagan and Bush were committed free traders. The facts they may implemented certain temporary tariffs does not mean they did not agree with the GOPs long standing support for free trade.

    Please don’t lump them together with Trump’s long standing anti-free trade positions.

    Bush was a strong Nafta supporter.

    Opposition to Nafta is short sighted and detrimental in the long run. Nafta should be strengthened, not weakened.

    The US would benefit from a hemispheric free trade policy to counter the EU, so Nafta should actuall be expanded to cover all of Central and South America.

    Instead, Trump wants to isolate the US economically in its own sphere of influence and hand over these markets to China.

    Beyond stupid.

  280. Mr.Vito says:

    Then

  281. jason says:

    I dont like tariffs for good trade partners that do not abuse human rights and do not steal our intellectual property.”

    Abuse of human rights and stealing of intellectual property have other remedies besides tariffs.

    There is nothing more artificial than tariffs.

  282. New York City says:

    Trump wants tariffs – Gift to unions.

    Trump wants massive infrastructure projects. – Gift to unions.

    See the trend?”

    Nahhh….

    The sand is nice and warm here, come stick your head in it too.

  283. jason says:

    The Marxists came in third with 23%. ”

    -One more good reason why my father’s family left Italy!”

    Your father’s family were Marxists?

    Who knew?

  284. Mr.Vito says:

    “…have other remedies besides tariffs.”

    So? There is no reason to take it off rhe table.

  285. jason says:

    “Wilbur Ross is a protectionist moron,”

    -Who asked your opinion?”

    LOL

    We are now outlawing opinions on a blog comment section?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz79ZYo0erQ

  286. jason says:

    …have other remedies besides tariffs.”

    So? There is no reason to take it off rhe table.”

    On the table is ok, as long as nobody actually eats from it.

  287. Mr.Vito says:

    “…as long as nobody actually eats from it.”

    No actual president ever agrees.

  288. jason says:

    I linked to his statement to combat the media/Robbie b*llsh*t about doing it out of anger.”

    Tariffs are horrible policy.

    The MSM agrees with it but can’t give Trump credit, so they have to attack his motives.

  289. Mr.Vito says:

    These purity tests are so tiresome.

    Never X or always Y…

    Or otherwise you are evil.

    So dumb.

  290. NYCmike says:

    “So? There is no reason to take it off rhe table.””

    -MR. VITO,

    At the negotiating school jason went to, it is much better to give up everything at the beginning, so that the other side sees you as a compromiser./

  291. Mr.Vito says:

    You arent any better than he is.

  292. jason says:

    Trump wants tariffs – Gift to unions.

    Trump wants massive infrastructure projects. – Gift to unions.

    See the trend?”

    Pope attacks capitalism, wealth and free enterprise – Gift to Marxists

    Pope promotes global warming hype – Gift to Marxists

    See the trend?

  293. Mr.Vito says:

    Or Corey or Robbie or Mr.Bitter or MD or anyone else…

  294. NYCmike says:

    Free trade between countries is wonderful……if it is fair. Better for both sides.

    Of course, jason, an experienced traveler, knows that ALL other countries are just like the United States…….///

  295. NYCmike says:

    “You arent any better than he is.”

    -I agree.

    (hopefully, he isn’t speaking about me!).

  296. NYCmike says:

    “These purity tests are so tiresome.”

    -Agreed.

  297. Mr.Vito says:

    What you say is code.

    Or it just means what you say.

    Depends on the differential between how highly I value you and how highly I value myself.

    That pretty much sums up every blog conversation youll have.

  298. NYCmike says:

    “Instead, Trump wants to isolate the US economically in its own sphere of influence and hand over these markets to China.”

    -Yup.

    He himself owns, or brands, hotels across the whole world, but he wants to hand over markets to China and other nations.

    What cr*p!

  299. NYCmike says:

    Mr. Vito,

    Did you have an issue with a comment I made?

  300. Mr.Vito says:

    Spoiler Alert

    All Trump does on policy is see what the former presidents that he sees as successes have done and try to follow their examples.

    As a product of the 80s, that means Trump is saying ‘What Did Reagan Do?’ Nine times out of ten.

  301. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #289- NYC
    That is one great article and was written with millions of voters like Bitter in mind!

  302. jason says:

    “These purity tests are so tiresome.”

    -Agreed.”

    LOL

    This from “Mr. Litmus Test” himself, who is fine with electing liberal Democrats because R senators are not “100% pure”.

    I just love the hypocrisy.

  303. jason says:

    He himself owns, or brands, hotels across the whole world, but he wants to hand over markets to China and other nations.”

    So he should know better?

    I agree.

  304. mnw says:

    Trump will be visiting western PA to help Saccone, it seems, but I don’t know when. The Wise Men talk like it’s a done deal, though. The special is a week from tomorrow.

    “With a full crew aboard,
    And our trust in the Lord,
    Comin’ in on a wing and a prayer.”

  305. jason says:

    All Trump does on policy is see what the former presidents that he sees as successes have done and try to follow their examples.

    As a product of the 80s, that means Trump is saying ‘What Did Reagan Do?’ Nine times out of ten.”

    Huh, moron.

    I supported Ronald Reagan. I voted for Ronald Reagan. I followed Ronald Reagan. I have studied Ronald Reagan.

    Now go to the blackboard and write 1000 times.

    “Trump is no Ronald Reagan”.

  306. NYCmike says:

    “This from “Mr. Litmus Test” himself, who is fine with electing liberal Democrats because R senators are not “100% pure”.”

    -Which Democratic Senator did I vote for?

    If you want to do away with the primary system, please say so. Wes may have an argument with you.

    I don’t have a litmus test. I make choices….during the primary, and then for the general election.

  307. NYCmike says:

    And when it comes to “electing” anyone, I didn’t stay home, like you did, when your chosen Presidential candidate didn’t pass muster with the voters. I made the choice….I didn’t spit the bit.

  308. Mr.Vito says:

    So Im a moron?

    Reagan cut taxes, Reagan used tariffs, Reagan supported the Brady bill.

    I think you are the one who needs to go back to the blackboard.

  309. NYCmike says:

    “Now go to the blackboard and write 1000 times.”

    -That Sock may need to find his mate for this assignment!

  310. jason says:

    Messy57 says:
    March 4, 2018 at 8:58 am

    Zerohedge is a vehicle for conservative disinformation. So are Gatway Pundit and infowars.”

    What do you think CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, PBS, etc are.

    If you say they are “vehicles of leftist disinformation” I can grant your point.

    Except for Infowars, they are not conservative.

  311. NYCmike says:

    OR, the Sock may use facts to counter the A-Holes argument…..For the WIN!

  312. Mr.Vito says:

    Reagan passed a gas tax to pay for infrastructure…

    Reagan supported amnesty in exchange for tough border control.

  313. jason says:

    -That Sock may need to find his mate for this assignment!”

    That was your assignment, not his.

    And I agree with Vito on the intellectual property and human rights aspects, I just don’t agree that blanket tariffs are the way to deal with it.

    GFY.

  314. NYCmike says:

    YIKES….Mr. Vito may force jason to regurgitate my lesson about Congress being the Branch which writes the bills which become law…..

  315. jason says:

    So Im a moron?”

    That was in response to NYC, not you.

  316. Mr.Vito says:

    Reagan passed the heritage foundation priorities.

    Reagan was pro military spending to a fault.

  317. NYCmike says:

    “That was your assignment, not his.”

    -Mr. Vito,

    If you don’t mind, may I take credit for the parts where jason agrees with you…..since he appears to be too unhinged to look at which poster is actually making a specific comment.

  318. Mr.Vito says:

    Reagan shut down govt when he didnt get what he wanted.

  319. jason says:

    regurgitate my lesson”

    NYC giving lessons about Congress here is like my dog giving lessons on table manners.

  320. Mr.Vito says:

    Reagan courted the white working class.

  321. NYCmike says:

    “That was in response to NYC, not you.”

    -How many apples is this kiss-A-Hole going to give to his professor today!?

    Mr. Vito, could you make a pie out of those apples so that we could all share in the deliciousness of jason’s stubbornness?

  322. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump is no politician, but he knows a success when he sees one.

    He is not reagan… but he would like to be.

  323. NYCmike says:

    Your dog wags his tail when he sees somebody….you wag your finger at them…..I’ll stick with your dog.

  324. mnw says:

    Trump is going to western PA this weekend. He is expected to tout his announced tariffs.

    Biden will be there tomorrow. CNN has a “blue wave starts now!” piece about PA-18, but there’s no new info— just a lot of “Republican leaders (unnamed of course) are really terrified.”

    Turning to MO Sen., I see that Sky Queen is running new ads now attacking Hawley by name for “supporting tax cuts for the rich.”

  325. Chicon says:

    In other words, Ronnie was no deadender!

  326. NYCmike says:

    jason, apparently, is unable to counter the many arguments which Mr. vito made about Reagan…….what a pity……there was a bake sale at the clinic this afternoon….we could have made some $$$.

  327. jason says:

    I could list about 1000 things where Reagan was different (and better) than Trump but to me its so obvious I won’t bother.

    In any event Reagan had 8 years and Trump is barely in his 2nd year, so let’s see how they compare at the end of 4 or 8 years.

    My assessment is that Trump is no Ronald Reagan based on what has happened so far. I will be happy to reassess that at the end of his term.

    And of course, I have been clear that I think Trup has been a successful President so far.

    Hopefully, as some have written here, the tariff thing is not going to be actually implemented, its just “on the table”.

    We will see.

  328. NYCmike says:

    “Reagan shut down govt when he didnt get what he wanted.”

    -NO WAY!

    GRANDSTANDER!

    (sarcasm alert, for Bitterlaw)

  329. NYCmike says:

    “In any event Reagan had 8 years and Trump is barely in his 2nd year, so let’s see how they compare at the end of 4 or 8 years.”

    -This is what I wrote almost 100 comments ago, and it says just about the same thing…..but jason had an issue with it.

    “-The argument is that he governed, for the last year, as a conservative.”

  330. mnw says:

    MG

    Emerson College (rumored at RRH):

    Lamb 48
    Saccone 45

    Emerson posted on the eve of the AL Senate election, “Jones has no realistic path to victory,” btw.

    Poll supposed to be announced this afternoon.

  331. jason says:

    ason, apparently, is unable to counter the many arguments which Mr. vito made about Reagan”

    I think Mr. Vito was being complimentary to Reagan, so why should I counter it?

    However, I don’t agree that all the actions Reagan took that Mr. Vito is comparing to Trump were for the same circumstances, motives and situations.

    At his core, I think Reagan was a free trade supporter, a fiscal conservative, and a strong supporter of global alliances.

    At his core, I don’t think Trump is any of these things.

  332. NYCmike says:

    “Hopefully, as some have written here, the tariff thing is not going to be actually implemented, its just “on the table”. ”

    -Heh.

    (RAISE ACT – 50% cut in immigration……..just sayin’).

    Some people just need a little longer to have it get thru their thick skull!

  333. Mr.Vito says:

    Sure, let’s duck our head in the trenches and lob more grenades. Why stick your neck up and have a look? everyone knows the playing field, right?

    Christians spend 90% of their time asking “What did Jesus do?”… but no one is comparing themselves to Jesus.

    Hey, I’ll just wait 10-20 years and see where I stand.

    You can only lead a horse to water.

  334. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t think”

    -You can say that again…..nobody is disagreeing!

  335. jason says:

    “Reagan shut down govt when he didnt get what he wanted.”

    GRANDSTANDER!”

    Did Ted Cruz get what he wanted?

    Huh, I should rephrase that. Did he get what he pretended he wanted?

    What he really wanted was to get on TV, and he got that.

  336. jason says:

    RAISE ACT – 50% cut in immigration……..just sayin’).”

    Are you really that stupid?

    It’s not in immigration, that was LEGAL immigration.

    Has your deadender bill been voted on yet?

  337. NYCmike says:

    Looking back, did Reagan get what he wanted…..UNFOTUNATELY, NO, mainly due to the lack of support from Congressional Republicans, who NEVER wanted to cut government as much as Reagan did.

  338. mnw says:

    RAS 48

    Trump jumped 4 points in Feb., per RAS.

  339. jason says:

    Sure, let’s duck our head in the trenches and lob more grenades. Why stick your neck up and have a look? everyone knows the playing field, right?

    Christians spend 90% of their time asking “What did Jesus do?”… but no one is comparing themselves to Jesus.

    Hey, I’ll just wait 10-20 years and see where I stand.

    You can only lead a horse to water.”

    Was this for me?

    Went over my head, but I got the part about the horse, llamas are the same way.

  340. Mr.Vito says:

    “…who NEVER wanted to cut government as much as Reagan did.”

    Forgot that one.

    Reagan tried to cut government and it’s influence.

    He also spoke out against liberalism all the time.

    Much more eloquently? Duh. That’s not the point.

    You can see the road map.

    Trump loved the 80s; Trump doesn’t know policy; Trump wants to be a success; Reagan was a success; Trump wants to be Reagan; Trump is going to follow Reagan’s lead.

    If it is unsuccessful because he is Trump and not Reagan, that is entirely beside the point.

  341. Mr.Vito says:

    “Went over my head”

    That happens in the trenches.

  342. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mwn
    https://www.emerson.edu/sites/default/files/Files/Academics/ECP_PA18_3.5.18_PR.pdf

    Here is the Emerson PA-18 Poll showing Lamb(D) +3.

  343. jason says:

    Looking back, did Reagan get what he wanted…”

    Reagan was the most successful President at least since FDR in getting what he wanted.

    He had two broad objectives in mind,

    1) changing the discourse away from the welfare state and from how much can government do for you

    2) Breaking the back of the Soviet Union by forcing them into an arms race that made them choose between “guns and butter”.

    While not actually being able to implement smaller government, Reagan did change the discourse, to the point where a liberal like Bill Clinton said he was going “to end welfare as we know it”.

    And he did break up the Soviet Union and end the cold war, they could not sustain the arms race AND provide enough material goods to the population to keep them from revolting.

    Trump has had some successes, SCOTUS pick, tax bill, etc.

    But compare him to Ronald Reagan, no.

  344. mnw says:

    That poll is alarming, if accurate.

    Otoh, it’s 474 LVs, & includes “robocalls plus an online sample.”

    It also shows Trump’s JA in the district at 47, which sounds a little low.

  345. Chicon says:

    Re: tariffs. If the measures short of a tariff are not enough to cause one party to play by the rules, it seems the choice is tariff or acceptance. Trump is not going with acceptance – he promised to do something about the issue during the campaign. He needs to threaten to use all his weapons – and the threat is only effective if believable.

  346. jason says:

    Trump is going to follow Reagan’s lead.”

    I get that is your point.

    I just don’t see it.

    In my view, ok, Reagan as a last resort or due to a circumstance might have imposed a tariff. But at heart I think he believed in free trade. I think he knew in the long run protectionism does not work.

    I think Trump believes protectionism works.

    I don’t think he believes in small government like Reagan did.

    I am talking philosophically, even if you can give examples where Reagan (or Trump) did something not in line with it.

  347. NYCmike says:

    Jason,

    You are the one saying the tariffs IS PROOF that Trump is not conservative, despite the fact that people you deem to be conservatives made similar actions during their tenures in the same office.

    If you stop using ridiculous arguments, Reagan’s (and Bush) makes will probably not come up.

    The real question is are you able to stop using ridiculous arguments?

  348. jason says:

    he promised to do something about the issue during the campaign. ”

    Sorry, I don’t buy that doing something detrimental to the economy is necessary to fulfill campaign promises.

    Tariffs are not “doing something”. It’s a cheap cop-out, the opposite of “doing something”.

    It’s just a bone to the fat cat union bosses, there is not thought or reason behind it except mindless protectionist rhetoric.

  349. jason says:

    “You are the one saying the tariffs IS PROOF that Trump is not conservative,”

    Zzzzzzzzzzz….

    I thought you said yourself Trump is not a conservative, why do you need proof?

    And of course, tariffs are not the ONLY reason Trump is not a conservative, I never said that.

  350. jason says:

    NYC at war with himself again.

    After admitting Trump is not a conservative countless times, now attacks me for saying Trump is not a conservative.

  351. jason says:

    Here is what I actually wrote and what you actually wrote.

    “The argument is that he governed, for the last year, as a conservative.

    The argument is NOT that he is a conservative.”

    Yes, but now we can put that “argument” to rest.

    The fat cat big labor union bosses say thank you!”

    You are saying Trump is NOT a conservative, but that he governed like one.

    I said let’s put that argument to rest because there is nothing “conservative” about tariffs, its straight out of the liberal playbook.

    Now that it’s clear, GFY.

  352. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump isnt likely to fulfill or not fulfill a campaign promise without regard to what I outlined above.

    It doesnt matter what anyone believes he believes.

    He believes in modeling what he thinks is success and thats about it.

    You should be glad he picked a good role model so far and hope he doesnt change it.

  353. jason says:

    What actual conservatives think of tariffs:

    “There is always retaliation, and typically a lot of these countries single out agriculture when they do that. So, we’re very concerned,” said Sen. John Thune, R-S.D.

    Gov. Scott Walker, R-Wis., asked the administration to reconsider its stance. He said American companies could move their operations abroad and not face retaliatory tariffs.

    “This scenario would lead to the exact opposite outcome of the administration’s stated objective, which is to protect American jobs,” Walker said.

    Tim Phillips, president of the Koch Brothers-backed Americans for Prosperity, noted that Trump narrowly won in Iowa and Wisconsin, two heavily rural states that could suffer if countries put in retaliatory tariffs on American agricultural goods.

    “It hurts the administration politically because trade wars, protectionism, they lead to higher prices for individual Americans,” Phillips said. “It’s basically a tax increase.”

    What actual liberals think of tariffs:

    “Good, finally,” said Sen. Sherrod Brown, an Ohio Democrat and progressive as he cheered Trump’s move. Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania, a Democrat who has called for Trump to resign, agreed.

    “I urge the administration to follow through and to take aggressive measures to ensure our workers can compete on a level playing field,” Casey tweeted.

    and

    “The nation’s largest federation of unions on Thursday praised President Trump’s plan to impose tariffs on steel and aluminum imports, even as GOP lawmakers in Congress and U.S. trade partners condemned the proposal.

    “For years, we have called attention to the predatory practices of some steel exporting countries. Such practices hurt working people and cheat companies that produce in the U.S. We applaud the administration’s efforts today to fix this problem,” AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said in a statement.

  354. jason says:

    “You should be glad he picked a good role model so far and hope he doesnt change it.”

    I would be glad if I believed Reagan was his role model.

    Unfortunately, I very much doubt that is the case.

  355. Chicon says:

    374 – I get your point. This is one of his populism things that generally goes against my grain. But this is a part of a main agenda point that lured people to him – “I will protect Americans first/don’t mess with the USA”. I give points to politicians that try to deliver on promises. There would be fewer deadenders nominated if the GOP stuck to delivering.

  356. jason says:

    So Sherrod Brown and Richard Trumpka are onboard.

    Waiting for Bernie Sanders…

  357. Mr.Vito says:

    379 I bet they did when Reagan did them, too. Shocking, I know…

  358. Mr.Vito says:

    And I bet if Trump is at 42 approval like Reagan was at the midterm, the GOP will lose 26 house seats and gain a senate seat.

    Like Reagan did…

  359. jason says:

    But this is a part of a main agenda point that lured people to him – “I will protect Americans first/don’t mess with the USA”

    Except it really doesn’t protect anybody in the long run.

    As the Koch Bros guy said:

    “It hurts the administration politically because trade wars, protectionism, they lead to higher prices for individual Americans,” Phillips said. “It’s basically a tax increase.”

    I am all for keeping campaign promises, but I think Trump should always look at a bigger picture.

    Did he promise “tariffs” or did he promise “jobs”.

    If he delivers on jobs and taxes, he doesn’t need tariffs.

  360. Chicon says:

    Mnw – JayBo out for the year, Upshaw for a month. When it rains, it pours. Still, hanging in there, two points out of the playoffs.

  361. Mr.Vito says:

    “If he delivers on jobs and taxes, he doesn’t need tariffs.”

    Neither did Reagan then… but he did it anyway.

    Of course Trump wouldnt know… do when in doubt…