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Dem Leads by 4% in PA Special Election

Only a few days left in the special election in Pennsylvania and the Democratic candidate now holds a 4% lead in his bid to take a US House seat from Republicans. The poll comes from RABA Research.

US HOUSE – PENNSYLVANIA – CD18 SPECIAL (RABA)
Conor Lamb (D) 48%
Rick Saccone (R) 44%

This poll was done Mach 6-8 among 707 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 12:50 pm
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669 Responses to “Dem Leads by 4% in PA Special Election”

  1. MichiganGuy says:

    First!

  2. NYCmike says:

    PANIC!

  3. Mr.Vito says:

    “This poll was done Mach 6-8”

    They need to slow down.

  4. Mr.Vito says:

    This exactly matches the Trump approval number in the poll, with undecideds 9% for each question.

  5. MichiganGuy says:

    In case there was any doubt, former Democratic #SD32 State Senator @MrTonyMendoza, who resigned in the wake of sexual harassment allegations, pulled papers this morning to run in the special election for the vacancy created by his own resignation.
    .
    https://twitter.com/rpyers/status/972163966431449091
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    LOL

  6. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    There are two things to know about the new PA CD-18 poll. (1) It was published by liberal website Talking Points Memo and (2) the PID is off”
    “The poll surveyed 707 likely voters in the district from March 6-8. Forty-one percent of those polled identified as Democrats, while 40 percent identified as Republica. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.7 percentage points.”

  7. MichiganGuy says:

    Democrats and Republicans will end up spending nearly $12 million on TV and radio ads in Tuesday’s highly competitive special congressional election in Pennsylvania — all for a district that won’t exist in its current form in November due to the state’s new congressional map.

    According to updated figures from Advertising Analytics, a whopping $11.7 million has been spent on ads in the race, with Republicans out-advertising Democrats, $7.3 million to $4.4 million.

    But with Democrat Conor Lamb outspending Republican Rick Saccone by more than a 3-to-1 margin — remember, campaigns get discounted ad rates compared with outside groups — the gap in broadcast spots aired is much smaller: 4,240 for the GOP, 3,242 for the Democrats.
    .
    https://tinyurl.com/y7nlnj3n
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    If you click on the link you can see a list of groups and how much each spent on ads.

  8. NYCmike says:

    ” all for a district that won’t exist in its current form in November due to the state’s new congressional map.”

    -Is this a done deal? I thought the Supreme Court was asked to take a look at this.

  9. NYCmike says:

    https://medium.com/@anastasiabasilcunningham/porn-is-not-the-worst-thing-on-musical-ly-5df07ab842af

    -Yup, Trump’s odd way of acting is the worst thing in the world, isn’t that correct, “CG”?

  10. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/972083027445714944

    -I did not see the Gridiron Dinner. This is a great joke by Trump….”CG” will NOT be amused!

  11. Todd McCain says:

    I have a feeling Saccone pulls this one out.

  12. mnw says:

    I wish that Saccone’s father had… oh well, never mind.

  13. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #11 & !2
    Nate Cohn throws BIG TIME “shade” on the RABA Poll. Mainly, the poll has a 60% College Degree demographic whereas the District has a 39% overall College Degree demo.

    https://twitter.com/Nate_Cohn/status/972124524320669696

  14. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Always Susan Rice in the middle of incompetence and sleaziness!

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/stunning-susan-rice-ordered-nsc-officials-stand-amid-russian-hacking-attempts/

    (From a Mother Jones article)

  15. mnw says:

    Sheep

    You evil little speedy Gonzalez, you… beat me once again.

    The Wise Men at RRH don’t like this poll either.

  16. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/03/09/damn-ted-cruz-renders-chris-cuomo-speechless-over-dems-blocking-bill-to-jail-felons-trying-to-buy-guns/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

    -I am POSITIVE that the A-Holes will both come on and commend “The Grandstander” for his CNN appearance…….

  17. DW says:

    14 – the diploma mills must be really active these days.

  18. Messy57 says:

    20. A quote from the article:

    The president’s legal team is considering telling Mr. Mueller that Mr. Trump would agree to a sit-down interview based on multiple considerations, including that the special counsel commit to a date for concluding at least the Trump-related portion of the investigation. One idea is to suggest a deadline of 60 days from the date of the interview, the person said.

    It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.

  19. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    21. Messy57 says: Why is “history” still up there. They haven’t had any new programming in years. Just antiquing and bad conspiracy shows.

    Your confusing the History Channel with Rachel Maddow.

  20. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Steel Industry Praises Trump:

    “The president’s action today is key in stemming the tide of unfair foreign imports and putting steel workers back to work,” American Iron and Steel Institute CEO Thomas Gibson said in a statement. “… With the signing today, the steel industry can be on track to maintain our essential contributions to national security and critical infrastructure like transportation, public health and safety, energy and the power grid, all of which rely heavily on steel.”

    A number of mills also published statements thanking Trump for his leadership in addressing the issue of imports.

    Philip Bell, president of the Steel Manufacturers Association, said his organization is optimistic these tariffs will adjust imports to provide a level playing field for US producers.

    “We look forward to the measures being in effect for a period of sufficient duration for companies to reinvest in the steel industry,” Bell said. “We also support limited exceptions for key allies, including Mexico and Canada, well-regulated exclusions for products not available from US producers, and mechanisms to avoid transshipment and circumvention of the tariffs.”

  21. Robbie says:

    Jason fraud to himself: “If Sebastian Gorka, who has an arrest warrant waiting for him in Hungary, and Jesse Waters are good enough for Trump, they are good enough for me. They are the future of conservatism because so is Trump.

    The Daily Beast
    ?@thedailybeast

    JUST IN: Trump dined with Fox News’ Seb Gorka and Jesse Watters at the White House this week because “he couldn’t get enough of them on TV,” as one source put it

  22. NYCmike says:

    “Steel Industry Praises Trump:”

    -I look on this as a negative. They are looking to line their pockets with more $ (not a bad thing, mind you).

    The industry better keep modernizing and becoming more efficient, like the steel industry in less developed countries has had to do.

  23. NYCmike says:

    “It would be funny if it weren’t so sad.”

    -Reason for this statement?

  24. Robbie says:

    I love watching the red hat brigade laughably claim tariffs are smart policy.

    Memo to the Trumpers: The only people who think tariffs are a good idea are Donnie, Clinton 1996 supporter Peter Navarro, and the Trum lemmings who would support Trump if he said drinking the blood of kittens was a good idea.

    The year in 2018, not 1894. Tariffs are asinine and nothing more than taxes on the American people.

  25. Robbie says:

    Good job, everyone. Really top notch work. Joe Manchin thanks you for making crooked Blankenship a legitimate candidate.

    Honestly, why bother to field candidates who can win when the party can just trigger the libs with moronic candidate like McDaniel or Blakenship. We’ll teach them by losing. Brilliant!

    RRH Elections
    ?@RRHElections

    From a reliable source – new Harper #WVSEN (R) primary poll is rumored to be leaking:
    @EvanJenkinsWV 29
    @DonBlankenship 27
    @MorriseyWV 19

  26. Robbie says:

    Thank goodness Trump only hires the best people. I’d hate to see what might happen if he hired idiots. Oh wait, we’re living through it.

    NBC News US
    ?@NBCNewsUS

    Exclusive: Michael Cohen, President Trump’s personal attorney, used Trump company email to arrange Stormy Daniels payment.

  27. Chicon says:

    Mika’s face!!!!!

  28. NYCmike says:

    “as one source put it”

    -HEH.

  29. NYCmike says:

    Walt told us Blankenship was running about a year ago or so. Where have you been?

    Should the Republican Party not allow him to run?

  30. NYCmike says:

    How exactly would they do that?

  31. Tina says:

    Breaking

    You tube rice issues stand down order re russian measures to prevent them from interfering in our election.

    You said that the advisors were overloading zero.

    Overloading him.

  32. Tina says:

    The job numbers were HUGE.

    The revisions were significant too, p,us 54k.

  33. NYCmike says:

    https://www.redstate.com/streiff/2018/03/09/ted-cruz-brings-entertainment-value-msnbc-uses-joe-scarborough-pinata/

    -More of “The Grandstander”, this time on another MSM outlet.

    Will Bitterlaw and jason give him his due for going into the hornets nest? And doing the stinging!?

  34. Tina says:

    SalenaZito
    SalenaZito
    @SalenaZito
    ·
    4h
    Republic Steel in Lorain Ohio restarting the Black River facility and bringing back 1,000 jobs all in response to @potus new Steel tariffs

  35. NYCmike says:

    “The job numbers were HUGE.”

    -Oh yeah, Robbie MUST have missed that news…….he was checking out Stormy Daniels “news” on the internet instead……

  36. Tina says:

    Scarfarce used a pinata.

    What a racist pos.

    Coc and Cft stooge.

  37. NYCmike says:

    “Republic Steel in Lorain Ohio restarting the Black River facility and bringing back 1,000 jobs all in response to @potus new Steel tariffs”

    “Exclusive: Michael Cohen, President Trump’s personal attorney, used Trump company email to arrange Stormy Daniels payment.”

    -We should have a daily contest. Find 2 tweets like these, and GUESS which one Robbie would link to…..

  38. Tina says:

    Wages up 2.6

    Inflation 1.7

    Huge too.

  39. Tina says:

    What about overloading obumbler, prevented him from acting?

    Wtf.

  40. Tina says:

    Breaking.

    Ig report out in 10 days.

    Arrests imminent.

  41. Chicon says:

    Excellent jobs report.

    Progress with the N. Korean thug.

    Who cares! The President had dinner with some TV people for goodness sakes.

  42. Tina says:

    So looks like 2000 jobs announced after the muh trade war,

  43. Tina says:

    Gang, there are a lot of shiny objects being tossed around.

    We need to ensure that the rooster keeps his hands out of the investigations, rooster loves you tube and always vouches for her.

  44. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Clinton foundation investigation in little rock enters a new phase.

  45. Tina says:

    Breaking, phony dossier is now making the rounds up to ex veeps office.

  46. Tina says:

    Sarah Sanders
    Sarah Sanders
    @PressSec
    ·
    51m
    The good economic news keeps coming. Reynolds giving thousands of workers tax cut bonuses

    Crumbs…..

  47. Tina says:

    Of course,

    Yahoo has stories on mulehead. Make no phuqin deal with him imo. Tell him to pound sand,

    Also, another story on oj.

    Mulehead and oj.

  48. Tina says:

    ox News
    @FoxNews
    ·
    Mar 8
    SoKo security adviser Chung Eui-Yong: “I explained to @POTUS that his leadership and his maximum pressure policy together with international solidarity brought us to this juncture.”

    Something bj, mute 43, and overloaded could not do.

  49. SoHope says:

    I doubt the steel and aluminum tariffs will have much effect other than psychological good or bad. He is probably just using it to strong arm Canada and Mexico with nafta renegotiations.

  50. Cash Cow TM says:

    Honk.

  51. Cash Cow TM says:

    I will be shocked if Blankenship is in 2nd place in the WV R primary for U.S. Senate.

    I would not think he would even break double digits. I tell you, the man just is not somebody who connects with people. Some might say he is even unlikable. Wnder if anyone had done a “favorable/unfavorable on this race…

    I DO think WV AG Morissey has been hurt because of the teacher strike.

    He came out multiple times to emphasize that the strike was illegal and he was willing to provide whatever legal help the governor, the State School Board, the county school boards and superintendents would request. Went down the wrong way with teachers and school service personnel.

    NOBODY took him up on his offer…

  52. Cash Cow TM says:

    Looking at the last VA governor’s race…

    Can anyone remind me why 90% of the undecideds all broke for the D candidate?

    Final Results: 53.9 45.0 Northam +8.9
    RCP Average
    10/29 – 11/5: 47.7 44.4 Northam +3.3

  53. Cash Cow TM says:

    …RABA Research…

    RABA DABBA DOO!

  54. Cash Cow TM says:

    Morissey was willing to do the work to issue injunctions to force striking teachers and school service personnel back to work.

  55. Cash Cow TM says:

    tariffs

    if farts

  56. mnw says:

    Tina

    An IG report does not lead to “imminent arrests.”

    At worst, it leads to a REFERRAL to a law enforcement agency for criminal investigation. More often, it leads to disciplinary action (firing; suspension) for a DOJ employee found to have engaged in misconduct.

  57. NYCmike says:

    Just watched the rest of that Cruz on Morning Schmoe link……that Scarborough, with that Beavis and Butthead hairdo deserves to get his face punched. What a nasty individual!

  58. Tina says:

    Mnw, I was toying witht the bot.

  59. Tina says:

    Scarfarce is transgendering,
    Lmika is transgendering,

    Just making an ibservation.

  60. Tina says:

    Observation*

  61. Tina says:

    I do not have cable and refuse to link to scarfarce.

  62. Tina says:

    And in this case the ig and outside dc prosecutor appear to be working closely,

  63. Tina says:

    In summary nyc, I am not sure if scarfarce is a man or a woman or whether mika is a man or a woman, based on their looks, I am on a new pair of lenses with the latest coatings, but still cannot tell.

  64. Phil says:

    Estimated cost of LA to San Fran bullet train now 77 billion and completion has been pushed back to the year 2033.

    LMAO

  65. MichiganGuy says:

    The Dem Pac American Bridge 21st Century has a devastating tv ad out against Saccone. Now I see why he is doing so poorly in a Republican stronghold.
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=24&v=1lO976MN2ZI

  66. MichiganGuy says:

    Libertarian candidate Bill Gelineau filed his petition signatures for Michigan’s gubernatorial race on Thursday, becoming the first candidate to qualify for the first-ever Libertarian Party primary election to be held alongside the state’s Democrat and Republican primaries on Tuesday, Aug. 7.
    .
    According to a press release, the Grand Rapids businessman delivered 21,187 signatures to the Bureau of Elections ahead of the April 24 deadline. Candidates need 15,000 signatures of registered voters to qualify.
    .
    It’s the first time a non-Democrat or Republican has qualified for a gubernatorial party primary in almost 50 years.
    .
    https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/archives/2018/03/09/bill-gelineau-files-signatures-for-michigans-first-ever-libertarian-party-primary
    ———————————————————————————————————————-
    I’m not sure who this hurts more Reps or Dems. Usually, Libertarians align more with Reps but, his support for legalization of marijuana and physician-assisted suicide will turn off conservative Christians.

  67. MichiganGuy says:

    RRH just changed PA-18 ratings all the way from Likely R to Lean D.

  68. Bitterlaw says:

    Tonight I saw a high school production of Les Miserables at a Catholic school. It was good. Positive- Just before the show began, the entire cast knelt on stage and said a prayer. Many in the audience joined in.

    Negative – If you are not familiar with the show, it involves a revolution (mostly). At the end the cast sings the revolutionary song. The students added protest signs during the curtain call including Times Up, BLM, and a call for an end to gun violence. Whatever.

  69. Hugh says:

    Bitter. Great musical. I’ve seen it many places.

  70. MichiganGuy says:

    Senate Democrats intend to run on a massive tax hike and $1 trillion in new spending.
    .
    https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/politics/2018/03/09/senate-democrats-unveil-tax-hike-trillion-dollar-spending-plan/

  71. Bitterlaw says:

    Hugh – It was well done. Some high school singers were amazing. Some were…um…high school singers. The firm who played Eponine is a freshman and owned the stage. Fantine was ok but confused being loud with conveying emotion.

  72. Phil says:

    70

    That’s distressing news, Michigan because it will mean having to listen to more of Robbie going on and on about the doom in November and how Trump is the cause of the coming blue tidal wave.

    Loss of that race = intensification of Robbie’s yapping.

  73. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The European Union imposed tariffs on Chinese steel in late 2016. This from the Guardian in October 2016:

    “The European Union has slapped tariffs of up to 73.7% on Chinese steel after manufacturers were forced to cut jobs due falling prices and demand for the material amid an influx of cheap imports from Asia.
    Thousand of job have already been lost in the steel industry in Britain in the last year with thousands more at risk as the sector remains under pressure. Industry leaders have partly blamed the squeeze on the sector on China’s dumping of cheap steel in Europe as it struggles to find buyers for its products domestically.
    The EU has agreed to impose import duties of between 13.2% and 22.6% on Chinese hot-rolled steel, which is used in pipelines and gas containers, and 65.1% and 73.7% on heavy plates, which are used in civil engineering projects.

  74. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    25. “Steel Industry Praises Trump:”

    -I look on this as a negative. They are looking to line their pockets with more $ (not a bad thing, mind you).

    The industry better keep modernizing and becoming more efficient, like the steel industry in less developed countries has had to do.”

    You seem under the influence of some strange fantasy that there is fair trade competition going on between the U. S. and China regarding steel. Are Dorothy and Toto in the Wizard in the fantasy too?

    Here is what is happening in the real world.

    “China makes half the world’s steel with the help of heavy government subsidies and other unfair advantages, a new report found.
    Five trade associations, including the American Iron and Steel Institute and the Steel Manufacturers Association, studied the various types of subsidies the 25 largest steelmakers in China get since they provide good-paying jobs. Ansteel Group for instance received $385 million yuan ($57.8 million) in subsidies, including cash grants and capital infusions.
    Shougang Group got more than $1.5 billion yuan ($225.4 million) in subsidies such as tax benefits and preferential loans, at a time when Chinese capacity utilitization was as low as 65.8 percent, the report found.
    The Chinese government has supported the country’s steel industry primarily through cash grants, equity infusions, government-mandated mergers and acquisitions, preferential loans and directed credit, land use subsidies, subsidies for utilities, raw material price controls, tax policies and benefits, currency policies, and lax enforcement of environmental regulation, according to the report.
    “The Chinese government maintains a majority share in the top-producing Chinese steel producers. Domestic steel producers are not competing with private enterprises but with sovereign governments that do not need to use free-market principles to operate,” the report stated.”

  75. mnw says:

    SDC is absolutely right.

    This “American companies need to become more efficient to compete, instead of imposing tariffs!” is the economic equivalent of that hate-America moral equivalence Zero loved to preach on his apology tours: “We don’t need to get on our high horse about Russia when our own country had slavery” sort of thing.

    You tell me how “be more efficient!” would make any difference to the situation SDC described.

    The liberal idea seems to be that we’re supposed to do nothing about the godawful status quo because… that’s how Clinton & Zero did it.

  76. Tina says:

    About the threaad topic, do we toss this polll?

  77. mnw says:

    Yes. But the election still looks grim.

    Trump’s visit is a Hail Mary pass at this point, I fear.

  78. Michael says:

    I think this election is in the margin of error. The thing is though, the GOP is investing in this race and I think PA-18 is going to be another GA-06. A win that should have been a slam dunk but still a win.

  79. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #80
    You are overly pessimistic about PA CD-18. A Hail Mail is one notch above hopeless.
    In 2016, former Congressman, Tim Murphy(R), ran unopposed yet still received 293,000 votes.
    Since The Donald’s ascent to the Presidency and except for the unusual contest for the Senate seat in Alabama( and VA?), the Republican candidates lost most of their seats because the Democrats were motivated by hatred. In MT and GA-6, Republicans put resources into these races and prevailed.
    I understand that the GOP has contacted about 300,000 voters in PA CD-18. This contest is NOT under the radar like most.
    Saccone(R) needs a 40% 2016 turnout of Murphy voters to win if Lamb(D) receives a 75% turnout of 2016 H. Clinton voted in the District.
    Is that possible? Yes, if GA CD-6 is a precedent. Is it probable? Who knows!

    TURNOUT BABY!!!!

  80. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Michael
    How have you been? I and others miss your astute analyses like in above #81.
    You and I are on the same page.

  81. MichiganGuy says:

    Finally, some good news.
    .
    GA-8: Yesterday was the filing deadline for party candidates. The only Democratic candidate, Fred Swann, dropped out to run for Agriculture Commissioner which was the only statewide race without a Democratic candidate. Republican Austin Scott will now run unopposed. March 16th is the last day to file and publish a notice of intention to be a Non-Partisan Write-In Candidate.

  82. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #84
    Was GA CD-8 in jeopardy of flipping to the Donkeys?

    How are the CD races in Michigan looking for November? Will Mad Cow Stabenow’s(D) Senate seat be close?

  83. Bitterlaw says:

    Always good to see Michael.

  84. Phil says:

    Georgia 8th is an R+15 district,

  85. Wes says:

    GA-8 last elected a Democrat in 2008 when Congressman Jim Marshall won his fourth and final term. Unfortunately for Marshall, Obama and Pelosi became problematic for him despite his fairly moderate (for a Democrat) voting record.

    In 2010, Republican Austin Scott capitalized on local discotent with national Democrats and began mercilessly tying Marshall to Pelosi. In response, Marshall ran a rather good campaign ad showing his driver’s license to prove he wasn’t Nancy Pelosi.

    It wasn’t enough. Scott won 53-47 and has never faced a competitive election since.

  86. Wes says:

    Republicans are unlikely to seriously challenge Stabenow in November. Only MI-1 looks like a seat the Dems can win. That’s problematic at best though for them as the district has become less friendly to the Dems since Stupak left office in 2011.

  87. Wes says:

    We’re still debating tariffs, I see.

    These guys lost their sets in Congress in 1932 because their shortsighted support of tariffs did severe damage to an already weakened economy:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoot–Hawley_Tariff_Act

  88. Tina says:

    Iger challenged at Disney Shareholders meeting

    Look how he fails to answer the person asking the question.

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/boom-2018-shareholders-meeting-disney-ceo-bob-iger-grilled-companys-far-left-bias-video/

  89. Wes says:

    Sayanythingblog.com has a good writeup on a new poll showing Heidi Heitkamp doen against Generic R.

  90. Tina says:

    Rep. De Santis indictments can come fast in fisa probe.

  91. Tina says:

    We have candidates for the Mexican Presidency campaigning in California.

    Wtf.

  92. Wes says:

    At least the other idiot running splits Morissey’s lunatic fringe base.

  93. jason says:

    Yep, wes, the protectionists and isolationists think tariffs are a brilliant solution when in fact they don’t work and do more harm than good.

    The fat cat union bosses say thank you to those that think tariffs and economic isolationism are a substitute to competitiveness.

    There is no free lunch. Tariffs will just cause damage to other sectors of the economy and raise prices to consumers in the name of “protecting” some artificial jobs in inefficient and non-competitive industries.

    Beyond stupid.

  94. Wes says:

    It’s amazing how tariff supporters rarely seem to acknowledge Smott-Hawley even existed, Jason. I wonder why.

    The terms “Great Depression” and “hooverville” come to mind for some reason.

  95. Wes says:

    Smoot*

  96. jason says:

    The liberal idea seems to be that we’re supposed to do nothing about the godawful status quo because… that’s how Clinton & Zero did it.”

    LOL

    The liberal idea is that coddling the AFL-CIO will give more power to the unions.

    The way to make American industry competitive is not through artificial garbage like tariffs but through a pro-business agenda with an effective tax and regulation policies combined with investment in technology and innovation.

    Tariffs are not a solution, at most they are are a BandAid on one wound while self inflicting dozens of other wounds on yourself.

  97. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Wes
    Why is WV AG,Morrisey(R), a bad Republican?

  98. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    jason
    Does PA have early and/or absentee voting? If so, is it popular with most Keystoners?

  99. mnw says:

    Wes

    Try to respond to what SDC posted about Chicom subsidies, please.

    I don’t give a krap about Smoot & Hawley any more than I did about Zero constantly harkening back to slavery and the trail of tears.

    WHY do we have to concede defeat to the grotesquely unfair Chinese strategy which SDC describes in 77 above? And if we DON’T have to just grin and bear it, then what alternative to Trump’s tariffs do you favor? That we massively subsidize our own steel companies?

    I’ll do your work for you, in part. When anti-tariff apostles are confronted with the FACT of the Chinese steel subsidies (which they try to ignore), their usual response is some variation of “But we subsidize too! See, we give domestic steel producers certain preferences on military bids and stuff like that! So it’s just the same!” (Slavery 150 years ago just the same as China selling body parts from executed prisoners today! No difference! So, STFU!”

  100. jason says:

    It’s amazing how tariff supporters rarely seem to acknowledge Smott-Hawley even existed, Jason. I wonder why”

    Tariff supporters are not deep thinkers.

    They are enamored with the quick and easy “fix”.

  101. jason says:

    No early voting in PA. You can vote absentee.

  102. Bitterlaw says:

    PA does not have early voting other than absentee ballots.

  103. Bitterlaw says:

    A-holes speak with one voice.

  104. Wes says:

    On the surface he’s not strictly a “bad” Republican, Sheeple. He was actually the only Republican to win statewide in West Virginia in 2012.

    On the other hand, he has a propensity for foot-in-mouth disease and unnecessarily antagonized the unions while gaining nothing during the recent teacher’s strike. He also is the candidate backed by Steve Bannon, who is far less concerned with electability than with the tired mantra “Send a message!.”

    Meanwhile, Jenkins hails from a part of the state Manchin has to win to hang on and has proved his electoral bona fides by ousting a 19-term incumbent on generally hostile ground to Republicans.

    That to me means Jenkins is the far better candidate while Morrisey does little but damage GOP chances of ousting Manchin.

  105. Bitterlaw says:

    I think early voting is a bad idea. Get up and get in line on Election Day. Voting should involve sacrifice and effort.

  106. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    CNN has become tabloid trash! Catch this:

    “CNN sent a reporter to interview people at the strip club where Stormy Daniels performed

    CNN sent a reporter to interview people at the strip club where Stormy Daniels performed.”

    Earlier in the week, the network sent a correspondent to interview an imprisoned hooker in Thailand because she said she had the “Russian Collusion Goods” on The Donald.

  107. jason says:

    Since the pro-tariff zealots have no arguments that make any sense the keep bleating “well the EU imposes tariffs too”.

    Hilarious.

    These are the same people that normally think America should not be like the EU.

  108. Bitterlaw says:

    I wonder if there are any Tink videos out there.

  109. mnw says:

    Wes

    Thx for the ND poll analysis. Hadn’t seen that article.

    I didn’t buy into the recent wunnerful-for-GOP Axios Senate poll. It was RVs. OK, that should give it a DEM tilt. But the FL poll was bizarre, assuming the rest of it was accurate.

    And personally? I’m skeptical that Hawley- the-Invisible-Man could be that far ahead of Sky Queen at this point.

  110. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – If Trump said he supported seizing guns, Federal funding for abortion, and cutting military spending by 50%, I am sure that some Trumpers would justify it as a boldly conservative agenda.

  111. jason says:

    Tariff supporters remind me of people who have a finger in a small dam leak while torrents of water pour out from 100 other holes.

    The only real solution is to fix the dam.

    No free lunch.

  112. mnw says:

    jason

    Can you address the Chinese subsidies described in 77, or are you limited to Smoot-Hawley because… easier?

  113. jason says:

    Jason – If Trump said he supported seizing guns, Federal funding for abortion, and cutting military spending by 50%, I am sure that some Trumpers would justify it as a boldly conservative agenda”

    I am sure they would.

    Tariffs have been the top agenda for union bosses shills and the far left of the Democratic party for decades, but now that Trump imposed them they are suddenly a brilliant and bold conservative strategy.

    The hypocrisy is astounding, and the contortions are hilarious.

  114. jason says:

    “Chinese subsidies”

    Sure, I’ll address them.

    Zzzzzzzzz……

  115. mnw says:

    BL 116

    But most would turn their back on Trump & never look back.

  116. mnw says:

    I take jason’s “zzzz” to mean he can not respond.

  117. Tina says:

    The drats are reverting back to their traditions

    Farakkan and anti semitism.

    Illegals are their new slaves.

    Party of thrash.

  118. mnw says:

    Saccone is on Cavuto now. I fear I’m about the only one who watched a little of it. Not bad.

  119. Tina says:

    Threatening targeted tariffs is fine.

    Lets see how some of the sjw nations respond.

    Continuing what has been going on the last thirty years, free trade absolutism, is not fine.

    Pretending that the problem goes is stupid.

    Touting that Reagan was a pure free trader is false.

  120. jason says:

    I forget which Senator said it, but in a nutshell;

    “Tariffs are just a tax hike”.

    Bingo.

  121. Tina says:

    John Cardillo
    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    ·
    3m
    My God, @POTUS has friends. Impeach him!!

    How long until #Mueller investigates this?
    The Daily Beast
    @thedailybeast
    JUST IN: Trump dined with Fox News’ Seb Gorka and Jesse Watters at the White House this week because “he couldn’t get enough of them on TV,” as one source put it (link: http://thebea.st/2twp89I) thebea.st/2twp89I

  122. Tina says:

    It is well oast time for the soeaker of the CoC to shut Mulehead down.

  123. jason says:

    “Threatening targeted tariffs is fine.”

    As long as you don’t actually impose them, ok.

    “Continuing what has been going on the last thirty years, free trade absolutism, is not fine.”

    Unfortunately, we have never had free trade absolutism, I wish we did.

    “Pretending that the problem goes is stupid.”

    Treating cancer with aspirin is stupid.

    “Touting that Reagan was a pure free trader is false.”

    What Reagan did or didn’t do in different times and circumstances is irrelevant. Anyone who thinks Trump and Reagan had the same views on trade to justify Trump’s positions is an idiot.

  124. Tina says:

    2016, Obama on Trump bringing manufacturing jobs back to the U.S.: “Well, how exactly are you going to do that? What exactly are you going to do?…What magic wand do you have?”

  125. Chicon says:

    So, again, if the Chinese put 25% tariffs on steel, what, if anything, should the President do about?

    This should be simple to answer. Something or nothing? If something, what?

  126. Tina says:

    Jason, this is all threats regarding nafta, It is a sheotty trade deal because it back doored China and faiked to orevent ikkegals from pouring in here, as touted by the nafta proponents,

    It can be reworked or if not, then invalidated.

  127. Tina says:

    Yes, different times, but china has replaced japan,

    Reagan dealt with the japense, i touted herre how most japanese cars were built in japan until reagan took actions.

  128. jason says:

    All the tariff zealots here just consider tariffs as an isolated move with no consequences.

    Do they consider”

    Higher prices to consumers? No

    Retaliatory actions against US exports? No

    Jobs lost due to retaliation/higher costs on other American industries? No

    The US should be taking the lead on opposing tariffs EVERYWHERE, instead of trying to emulate the bad practices of others.

  129. jason says:

    ason, this is all threats regarding nafta, It is a sheotty trade deal because it back doored China and faiked to orevent ikkegals from pouring in here, as touted by the nafta proponents,

    It can be reworked or if not, then invalidated.”

    Sorry, I don’t agree at all.

    Nafta is in our interest too, not only economic but political too. It’s not in our interest that Mexico become another Venezuela nor is it our interest that Canada become part of the EU economic bloc opposing us.

    The US as an “island” concept does not work in a globalized world, and pretending its not a globalized world is not a strategy either.

  130. jason says:

    gan dealt with the japense, i touted herre how most japanese cars were built in japan until reagan took actions.”

    The US car industry was forced to improve and modernize due to the Japanese car threat, that is the real result of the story.

  131. jason says:

    They are the future of conservatism because so is Trump.”

    I see the amoral scumbag made an appearance to lie again.

    He is still looking for the post where I said Trump was a Republican.

    Now he can look for the quote where I said Trump was a conservative.

    Maybe he can find Jeb’s real killer while he is at it.

  132. MichiganGuy says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    March 10, 2018 at 8:50 am

    How are the CD races in Michigan looking for November? Will Mad Cow Stabenow’s(D) Senate seat be close?
    ————————————————————————————————————————
    Sandy Pensler is our best chance of beating Stabenow. He is self funding his campaign. He already has given his campaign $5 million. Pensler is the founder of Pensler Capital. He’s said his experience with turning around failing companies and working as an economist could give him a unique edge in the Senate race.

    Prior to his work in the business world as a financial advisor and investor, Pensler clerked at the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals for Judge Patrick Higginbotham. He’s also taught courses in economics at Yale University. Stabenow isn’t going to be easy to beat but, she never had a strong opponent. She can be beat. Michigan has a Republican Governor, Lieutenant Governor, Secretary of State and Attorney General. Republicans also control the state Legislature.

  133. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    March 10, 2018 at 9:57 am

    I wonder if there are any Tink videos out there.
    ————————————————————————————————————————
    BL, why do you want to know?

  134. dblaikie says:

    My goodness, I am shocked. Shocked! Shocked!! That we have a bogus poll with the Dem. pulling ahead in Pa. Talk about a bogus poll — tuning a blue collar district into one with a majority of College Grads. If Lamb wins it won’t be because the polls were accurate, instead it will because Saccone didn’t get out his vote.

  135. dblaikie says:

    I hate it that I can’t seem to trust any poll. So I wonder, does anyone here know of a polling firm that isn’t biased? If so, please tell me why you think that it is truthfully seeking for an accurate picture of the electorate?

  136. MichiganGuy says:

    dblaikie, FiveThirtyEight’s Pollster Ratings shows which are the most accurate pollsters. Of course all pollsters have a certain bias.
    .
    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/

  137. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – All those who celebrated Trump bringing working class Democrats to the polls to support him are now SHOCKED that Trump is giving them the tariffs they wanted.

  138. Tina says:

    The trollys will be out in large numbers, uh same poster, if the drat prevails.

  139. mnw says:

    Sessions: “We will use every lawful tool we have against the Oakland mayor.”

    I would call that a long overdue first step, if true.

  140. Bitterlaw says:

    MG – Wes is fine with his girlfriend/wife/whatever being a stripper. I wonder if his attitude would be different if she profited from her body in other ways.

  141. Chicon says:

    Mnw, seems like talk, so far. Hopefully action will follow.

  142. Bitterlaw says:

    Irony Alert – Some people say that we should not have amnesty for illegals because it was a mistake made by Reagan BUT excuse Trump on tariffs because tariffs were a mistake made by Reagan.

  143. Tina says:

    Tragic shooting near my neck of the woods.

    In Yountville, Ca, three were shot and killed at the Veterans home, The shooter also took his own life.

  144. Tina says:

    They can charge the beotch with obstruction and endangering the lives of authorites?

  145. Tina says:

    But sessions will not try any case or show his actions in public,

    You know he is still doin nuffin.

  146. Chicon says:

    Hello, Bitter. Are you willing to answer my inquiry in #131?

  147. dblaikie says:

    Sorry but in my mind Nate Cohn at 538 is part of the media spin act. When you read his chart it reveals a world where PPP, ABC, NBC, Marist and not to mention CNN gets an A. For me that is the world that Robbie lives in. And we won’t even mention the top grades that the liberal college polling outfits receive.

  148. jason says:

    So are we re-weighting the PA poll?

    It’s the HHR way.

  149. jason says:

    Something or nothing?”

    I’ll make it easy for you.

    If its between nothing and the AFL-CIO’s agenda, I prefer nothing.

    If its a shortsighted finger in the dam type of approach that doesn’t look at the whole picture, nothing.

    If’s its a constructive long term policy to make American industry competitive in a globalized economy yeah, something.

  150. jason says:

    So Chicon, were you always enamored with the AFL-CIO’s agenda or are you a recent convert after Trump got elected?

  151. dblaikie says:

    I am leery of tariffs as a person who believes in free trade. However with Trump have the ability to grant wavers to places like Canada and Mexico I see his move as a bold stroke against the steel dumping government supported steel industry in China. Free trade is compromised if the playing field is not at least close to being equal.

    It also gives Trump a real weapon as he renegotiates the free trade agreements. So the bottom line is that even though I have doubts about what Trump is doing I am willing to cut him some slack before I come out against these targeted tariffs.

  152. dblaikie says:

    “having the ability”

  153. jason says:

    United Steel Workers President Leo Gerard

    “What he did is what we’ve been fighting for for more than 30 years,” Gerard said. “What makes me sad is we’ve been trying to get Democrats to do this for more than 30 years.”

  154. jason says:

    “I am willing to cut him some slack before I come out against these targeted tariffs.”

    They are blanket, not targeted.

    Not that targeted is good, but better than blanket.

  155. dblaikie says:

    154 I am ignoring the PA poll. Tragically polling has become a tool to under gird and support a certain narrative rather than an effort to give an accurate snap shot of the electorate. For me this is a sad reality.

  156. jason says:

    I love the contortions of the “conservatives” here, who should be opposed to an organization that spends hundreds of millions of dollars to elect liberal Democrats to thwart conservatives, now adopting big labor’s agenda.

    I guess Bitter is right.

    “Jason – If Trump said he supported seizing guns, Federal funding for abortion, and cutting military spending by 50%, I am sure that some Trumpers would justify it as a boldly conservative agenda.”

  157. jason says:

    “I am leery of tariffs as a person who believes in free trade.”

    If you believe in free trade you should be more than “leery”.

    But at least you didn’t use the expression “fair trade”.

  158. jason says:

    I never heard of RABA Research, are they associated with Paladin?

  159. dblaikie says:

    Jason for be from me to disagree and perhaps the word targeted is wrong. But I do believe that Trump is going to wave the tariff for Canada and Mexico and has the option to waver other countries.

    I suppose it is a blanket if you don’t get a waver.

    Like I say I have always been leery of any tariff. But at the same time I have always believed that China’s trade policies have been destructive to world wide free trade.

  160. dblaikie says:

    I use the word leery because I have learned that Trump is smarter than I thought and that there is a method to his madness. However I do realize that leery is a squishy word that leaves you wiggle room in your beliefs.

  161. dblaikie says:

    165 In my passion I screwed up, I meant to say, “far be it for me”

  162. Bitterlaw says:

    Chicon- Here is my answer. Tell the Chinese to F off. Modernize our plants to make better steel. If the Chinese won’t buy it, F them. Sell our steel to places w/out 25% tariffs. The world needs steel. Free market, bitches.

  163. Chicon says:

    Ok, Jason and Bitter have come down on the side of unilateral disarmament in trade.

    I’d love no tariff on either side. When one side puts on a big tariff, it seems wrong to say “no biggie, do what you want”. I agree that there are negative implications for the economy. There are negative implications for soldiers in a war, but sometimes it needs to be done.

  164. Michael says:

    Thanks Bitterlaw.

    I check out the site every once and awhile. I just hope Trump can rile up the base in PA-18 enough to get out and vote.

  165. Chicon says:

    168 – why would Saudi Arabia buy US steel when they can buy subsidized Chinese steel for less?

  166. Wes says:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2018/mar/08/angus-king/does-much-steel-does-us-import-china/

    This article says China exports about 2% of US steel. Enacting tariffs against them accomplishes what exactly? These tariffs will hurt us only with countries we actually trade with.

  167. MichiganGuy says:

    jason says:
    March 10, 2018 at 12:00 pm
    I never heard of RABA Research, are they associated with Paladin?
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  168. jason says:

    Just got a recorded message from Laura Trump inviting me to the rally.

    I would go if it was closer.

  169. jason says:

    This article says China exports about 2% of US steel. Enacting tariffs against them accomplishes what exactly? These tariffs will hurt us only with countries we actually trade with.”

    wes, don’t dazzle the isolationists with facts.

    These “conservatives” are bent on having a tax hike, what can you do?

  170. jason says:

    “Ok, Jason and Bitter have come down on the side of unilateral disarmament in trade.”

    LOL, the hypocrisy is astounding.

    Those that are against free trade talking about unilateral disarmament in trade?

    That is like someone who is for strengthening military alliances around the world being accused of unilateral disarmament.

  171. jason says:

    “There are negative implications for soldiers in a war, but sometimes it needs to be done.

    Thanks Chicon, I am sure the “soldiers” who lose their jobs and the consumers who pay higher prices will appreciate knowing their sacrifices to benefit big labor “needs to be done”.

  172. jason says:

    Thanks MG

    RABA does seem to at least be on a par with Paladin as far as having a lot of talent aboard.

  173. Bitterlaw says:

    I’d love no tariff on either side…but support tariffs.

    I fixed it for Chicon.

  174. jason says:

    subsidized Chinese steel”

    Here is how that works.

    If I have lower costs, modernized facilities, better tax and regulatory policies, more efficient production I have lower costs, modernized facilities, better tax and regulatory policies and more efficient production.

    If you have lower costs, modernized facilities, better tax and regulatory policies, more efficient production you are subsidized.

  175. jason says:

    ’d love no tariff on either side”

    Sounds like a true advocate of “fair trade”.

    “My tariffs are bigger than your tariffs”

  176. jason says:

    Bitter, have you noticed that everyone who is in favor of Trump’s tariffs here are actually “against tariffs”?

    Every single one.

    I have not seen one supporter here of Trump’s tariffs who actually supports tariffs.

    Fascinating.

    The only explanation I have is that Trump’s tariffs are so much better than non-Trump tariffs that it justifies the contradiction.

  177. Bitterlaw says:

    “My tariffs are bigger than your tariffs”

    Jason is trying to arouse the Trumpers.

  178. Bitterlaw says:

    I wonder if Trump’s large tariffs are compensating for his small hands.

  179. Tina says:

    So we tell them to f off and then who re builds the plants?

  180. Tina says:

    I will be here on Tuesday when the democrat wins the pa seat.

    Jebot

  181. Bitterlaw says:

    Does India have tariffs on steel (I don’t feel like looking it up). If not or the tariffs are lower than China’s, sell it to India.

    Who rebuilds the plants? People who want to make money making and selling steel. Same as it has always been.

    Economies change. Was there a government program to protect the makers of saddles and wagon wheels when cars came out? Did the Feds protect the typewriter ribbon industry when computers came out?

  182. Tina says:

    So, cnn accomoanied muh porn star to the steip club.

    Very news worthy.

    Did the jebots accompany cnn?

  183. Tina says:

    Steel and aluminum are more of an importance for a whole host of reasons.

    What replaces steel and aluminum?

  184. Tina says:

    Maybe robots will replace lawyahs and gubment workers.

    I zinged myself.

  185. Bitterlaw says:

    What replaces steel and aluminum?

    Do you want the Feds to own the plants, Tina? You seem comfortable with unions setting trade policy. Go all in.

    There was a time when nothing was built with steel or aluminum. Who knows whether plastics and ceramics will replace steel and aluminum in many buildings? Tariffs will not save those metals.

  186. Bitterlaw says:

    Roberts could not handle the stress of being a lawyer. They could also not handle the need to be illogical.

  187. Bitterlaw says:

    That should be Robots. Damn autocorrect.

  188. mnw says:

    Wes and jason

    You are not asking U.S. steel companies to compete with foreign companies. You are asking them to compete against the Chinese govt itself, dba “private steel company.”

    And you will not deal with that. “Well… our steelworkers are only getting scrood a little bit! Maybe only 2%.”

    I say again, you can not & have not explained why we should simply ENDURE that profoundly unfair and anti-free trade practice, courtesy of the autocratic govt of China. WHAT POLICY DO YOU SUGGEST IN RESPONSE?

    Btw, I’m a “poster” and I admit that I “like” both tariffs and war, in the sense that both are sometimes required.

    Trump RAN on redressing our nation’s lousy trade treaties. It was a centerpiece of his campaign and something where he is both knowledgeable and consistent— for the last 30 years.

  189. mnw says:

    P.S. Appeasement are us— because that always works.

  190. Bitterlaw says:

    So Trump has to implement a bad policy because he ran on it? Hillary ran on many bad policies. Would you support those if she was elected?

  191. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Whatever the merits of the tariffs, any argument there is fair trade between the United States and China is bogus.

    The Chinese use government subsidies, loans and credits, and restrict the importation of outside goods to favor their industries. All you have to do is go into a Walmart or other large department store in the U.S. and see where most the goods they sell are manufactured, to see the effectiveness the Chinese protectionist policies.

  192. NYCmike says:

    To mnw and SDC,

    “You seem under the influence of some strange fantasy that there is fair trade competition going on between the U. S. and China regarding steel. Are Dorothy and Toto in the Wizard in the fantasy too?”

    -Please tell me where my warning that steel companies must continue to modernize, become more efficient, and try to remain a low-cost producer is a bad thing, and how, IN ANY WAY, excuses unfair Chinese practices.

  193. NYCmike says:

    I am in no way as absolutist as jason, Wes, and Bitterlaw seem to be, because they are obviously IGNORING the political angle of tariffs.

    BUT, in no way am I a huge fan of tariffs, and hope that they do not get implemented, unless they are very narrowly focused on bad actors, like China.

  194. NYCmike says:

    CC

  195. Tina says:

    No bl, i do not want the gubment owning anything. However, free trade needs to be a bit fairer for us. If trump can fix the bad deals and make them better for us, let him.

  196. NYCmike says:

    “Did the jebots accompany cnn?”

    -No. Robbie was too busy checking out internet hotties, and “CG” was too lazy to climb down off the moral high ground, especially after the last snowfall.

  197. NYCmike says:

    “WHAT POLICY DO YOU SUGGEST IN RESPONSE?”

    -Wes just likes to write Smoot Hawley.

  198. NYCmike says:

    “Do you want the Feds to own the plants, Tina? You seem comfortable with unions setting trade policy. Go all in.”

    -Not one person suggested this, but the lawyer made the leap……

  199. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    199. “BUT, in no way am I a huge fan of tariffs, and hope that they do not get implemented, unless they are very narrowly focused on bad actors, like China.”

    Thanks for the clarification NYCmike. Agree. We are on the same page

  200. Bitterlaw says:

    The lawyer finds alleged conservatives cheerleading tariffs to be pathetic.

  201. Bitterlaw says:

    I did not call you a cheerleader, NYC, so stop typing.

  202. Bitterlaw says:

    The AFL-CIO is now the source for conservative policy? Who knew?

  203. Tina says:

    -Not one person suggested this, but the lawyer made the leap……

    After the lawyah implied it in his original post..

  204. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina/NYC – There are posters defending tariffs here. The labor unions support tariffs. You don’t have a problem with those on the same side as the backbone of the Democratic Party?

  205. Bitterlaw says:

    BUT, in no way am I a huge fan of tariffs except when Trump proposes them.

    I fixed it for NYC.

  206. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “The lawyer finds alleged conservatives cheerleading tariffs to be pathetic.”

    How about “A lawyer finds alleged conservatives cheerleading tariffs to be pathetic.”

    Believe there are several lawyers who post on the board.

  207. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw and BF are also lawyers. However, Tina and NYC target me. I feel special.

  208. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    214. “I feel special.”

    Well you are special.

  209. Tina says:

    Target you, please.

  210. NYCmike says:

    Special K Bitterlaw

  211. NYCmike says:

    “Cue the True Conservatives™ to tell me it’s because I’m stupid and terrible and awful. I know how they work. It was only a few years ago that I might have been with them. And they aren’t totally wrong opposing trade barriers – in the macro, free trade is a powerful engine of prosperity, the most powerful ever devised. But the key part of “free trade” is the “free” part, and they never want to talk about that when it comes to holding the foreigners accountable.”

  212. NYCmike says:

    “Maybe you didn’t notice that our president is Donald Trump, but our Republican voters are a bit done with GOP Establishment gaslighting. It’s not just on trade. Remember the whole illegal alien thing? You know, our own voters kept expressing concern about the myriad problems illegal aliens cause our voters but our intrepid establishment undertook a dual-track strategy of denying the problems our people were experiencing while calling them racists. That sure worked out for President Jeb!.”

  213. NYCmike says:

    Like this part….Tina should get a kick out of it!

    “It’s a bad idea not to stick up for your own voters. Why is the notion that we should refuse to engage in unequal trade relations so crazy to so many people who write for the cruise shilling conservative press? Ahoy, mateys – maybe run a panel on the Lido Deck about how we ought to listen to our voters when they are hurting instead of demanding that they ignore their lying eyes.”

  214. NYCmike says:

    CCXXII

  215. jason says:

    Don’t you just love these AFL-CIO conservatives?

  216. jason says:

    UT, in no way am I a huge fan of tariffs”

    Ok, NYC wants to be added to list of AFL-CIO conservatives that don’t like tariffs, but supports them.

    No problem.

  217. jason says:

    “:because they are obviously IGNORING the political angle of tariffs.”

    Translation: I admit tariffs are bad policy and bad economics but just maybe they are good politics.

  218. jason says:

    “Tina/NYC – There are posters defending tariffs here. The labor unions support tariffs. You don’t have a problem with those on the same side as the backbone of the Democratic Party?”

    The fat cat union bosses have been trying to get their Democrat allies to implement these kind of tariffs for the last 30 years.

    Trump finally came through for them.

    And their new allies here, the newly founded AFL-CIO conservatives, can’t contain their excitement.

  219. mnw says:

    MSM emphasizing rows of empty seats at Trump speech tonight— true, but there were long lines waiting to get in.

    Audience was predominantly white men over 50, per some reports.

    Trump went on some odd irrelevant tangents (surprised?), like picking the Saccone rally to call Chuck Todd a “sleeping son of a bitch”… or something.

    Over all, the crowd loved it, apparently.

    He hit tariffs really hard. Lamb sez he supports those too, btw.

    Saccone emphasized how much of a Trump supporter he is.

    Well… we shall see in a couple of days.

    I like the fact that Trump laid it all on the line for Saccone today, knowing that Saccone is the underdog now, per the polls. I like that VERY much! Loyalty like that to an uninspiring GOP nominee could/should pay dividends in lining up GOP support for Trump’s agenda, hopefully.

  220. jason says:

    P.S. Appeasement are us— because that always works.”

    LOL

    Here is the guy who is try to appease his new big labor buddies talking about appeasement?

    I love this place.

  221. jason says:

    Lamb sez he supports those too, btw.”

    No sh-t, really?

    A Democrat supporting the the AFL-CIO.

    Amazing.

  222. mnw says:

    “Keep America Great! I can’t say ‘Make America Great’ any more because we already did that.”

    A crowd pleaser, apparently.

    One of the issues where Lamb and Saccone clearly disagree is abortion. Trump didn’t mention that issue. I think he probably should have. This is about TURNOUT.

  223. mnw says:

    And here is a guy (jason) who is afraid to upset HIS new buddies— the Red Chinese govt! Because… trade war.

    In a war, one side usually wins. PRC runs the greatest trade surplus with us in the history of mankind on earth.

    Wouldn’t that give PRC more incentive than us NOT to get in a trade war?

  224. jason says:

    What American businesses REALLY think about these tariffs.

    But hey, you AFL-CIO conservatives have picked your partner, and its not them.

    Randy Noel, chairman of the National Association of Home Builders, said in a statement. “Given that home builders are already grappling with 20 percent tariffs on Canadian softwood lumber and that the price of lumber and other key building materials are near record highs, this announcement by the president could not have come at a worse time. Tariffs hurt consumers and harm housing affordability.”

    ”The Administration’s announcement of new tariffs on steel and aluminum imports threatens to drastically increase the prices of many building materials specified by architects,” Carl Elefante, president of the American Institute of Architects, said in a statement. “As creative problem solvers, architects rely on a variety of these materials to achieve functional and performance goals for their clients. Inflating the cost of materials will limit the range of options they can use while adhering to budgetary constraints for a building.”

    US car dealers: “These proposed tariffs on steel and aluminum imports couldn’t come at a worse time,” Cody Lusk, president of the American International Automobile Dealers Association, said in a statement. “Auto sales have flattened in recent months, and manufacturers are not prepared to absorb a sharp increase in the cost to build cars and trucks in America. The burden of these tariffs, as always, will be passed on to the American consumer.”

    Auto manufacturers: “We are concerned with the unintended consequences the proposals would have, particularly that it will lead to higher prices for steel and aluminum here in the United States, compared to the price paid by our global competitors,” Matt Blunt, president of the American Automotive Policy Council, said in a statement. “This would place the U.S. automotive industry, which supports more than 7 million American jobs, at a competitive disadvantage.”

    “The President’s pending decision on tariffs and quotas for steel and aluminum trade highlights several unfortunate ironies,” John Bozzella, president of the Association of Global Automakers, said in a statement. “With one stroke of the pen, much of the promised benefit of tax reform and other Administration initiatives aimed at reviving manufacturing and protecting national security could be undercut.”

    Boat manufacturers: “The implementation of these aluminum tariffs … will drive up the costs of the aluminum used to manufacture more than 111,000 aluminum boats, such as pontoons and fishing boats, which make up 43 percent of new powerboat sales each year,” Thom Dammrich, president of the National Marine Manufacturers Association, said in a statement. “Further harming the industry, the aluminum sheet our members are forced to source overseas will likely continue to be in short supply in the U.S., destroying our members’ ability to build boats in the U.S. As a result, the jobs of the American workers who build these boats, their engines and components, are now in jeopardy.”

    The beer industry: “About 2 million jobs depend on America’s beer industry. We urge the Department of Commerce and U.S. President Trump to consider the impact of trade restriction tariffs,” Felipe Dutra, Anheuser-Busch InBev’s chief financial officer, said on a call with analysts.

    Retailers: “Make no mistake, this is a tax on American families,” Matthew Shay, president of the National Retail Federation, said in a statement. “When costs of raw materials like steel and aluminum are artificially driven up, all Americans ultimately foot the bill in the form of higher prices for everything from canned goods to electronics and automobiles. The reality is that there is nothing this country will gain from such a one-sided policy. These tariffs threaten to destroy more US jobs than they will create while sending an alarming signal to our trading partners and diminishing markets for American-made products overseas.”

    Machinery manufacturers: Caterpillar’s director of investor relations, Amy Campbell, told Reuters that the tariffs would pose a “challenge” and would put Caterpillar at a competitive disadvantage with foreign competitors.

    US business groups: “The U.S. Chamber is very concerned about the increasing prospects of a trade war, which would put at risk the economic momentum achieved through the administration’s tax and regulatory reforms,” Thomas Donohue, CEO of the US Chamber of Commerce, said in a statement. “We urge the administration to take this risk seriously and specifically to refrain from imposing new worldwide tariffs on steel and aluminum. These new tariffs would directly harm American manufacturers, provoke widespread retaliation from our trading partners, and leave virtually untouched the true problem of Chinese steel and aluminum overcapacity.”

  225. mnw says:

    Crowd chanted, “Build that Wall!”

  226. jason says:

    This comment says it all.

    “With one stroke of the pen, much of the promised benefit of tax reform and other Administration initiatives aimed at reviving manufacturing and protecting national security could be undercut.”

  227. mnw says:

    Or alternatively, China could blink.

  228. jason says:

    And here is a guy (jason) who is afraid to upset HIS new buddies— the Red Chinese govt”

    Zzzzzzz…

    All those industry leaders quoted in post # 232 are Red China agents, huh?

    I am proud to say I am in better company with them than you are with Richard Trumpka.

  229. mnw says:

    He also called Maxine Waters “a low IQ type person.” Not clear how THAT came up in western PA.

  230. mnw says:

    Still waiting for you to explain what you would do about the PRC subsidies and dumping too…

    Waiting waiting zzzzz…

    Oh I forgot! “Just be more competitive and efficient.”

  231. jason says:

    In a war, one side usually wins”

    In trade wars, everybody usually lose.

    After all the effort to pass the tax cuts and cut corporate tax rates let’s throw it all away on a stupid tax hike.

    “Make no mistake, this is a tax on American families,” Matthew Shay, president of the National Retail Federation.

  232. jason says:

    So mnw, are all these business leaders wrong?

    I know you think they are Red China agents, so I guess so.

  233. jason says:

    “This would place the U.S. automotive industry, which supports more than 7 million American jobs, at a competitive disadvantage.”

    No problem, people can always buy cheaper imported cars.

    Oh wait…

  234. jason says:

    “Auto sales have flattened in recent months, and manufacturers are not prepared to absorb a sharp increase in the cost to build cars and trucks in America. The burden of these tariffs, as always, will be passed on to the American consumer.”

    The AFL-CIO conservatives say screw the consumer!

  235. jason says:

    Tariffs hurt consumers and harm housing affordability.”

    Housing affordability?

    I wish these Chinese agents would stop talking about things nobody cares about.

  236. Tina says:

    Yes, the Lido Deck. You can get an autograph picture of somebody who said that his inner socialist came out against the tax cuts.

    Claims to ge a conservative.

  237. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Don’t forget that Trump left all of his Democrat ideas behind when he became President.

    Except for tariffs. And infrastructure projects paid for by the Feds.

  238. Bitterlaw says:

    Here’s a question – how did Trump get to be regarded as a trade expert? He is a real estate developer and very good at it. That is not the same as trade or manufacturing. His casinos failed. His airline failed.

    “But Bitter. He promised to protect jobs so we have to have a trade war that will costs jobs.”

  239. mnw says:

    Saccone looks remarkably like Grandpa Munster.

  240. jason says:

    Hey Bitter, sorry, but I should get a boatload of points.

    jason) who is afraid to upset HIS new buddies— the Red Chinese govt!

  241. jason says:

    Another Chinese agent…

    “Business Roundtable strongly disagrees with today’s announcement because it will hurt the U.S. economy and American companies, workers and consumers by raising prices and resulting in foreign retaliation against U.S. exporters,” Joshua Bolten, president of the influential Business Roundtable, said in a statement. “Using ‘national security’ tools to implement tariffs could embolden other countries to impose ‘national security’ tariffs on U.S. exporters or otherwise restrict U.S. goods and services sold to their markets.”

  242. jason says:

    Jason – Don’t forget that Trump left all of his Democrat ideas behind when he became President.”

    Yeah, but he owns the GOP now, remember.

    Democrat ideas are “in”.

  243. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe Trump colluded with the Chinese.

  244. jason says:

    Anything is possible.

    The AFL-CIO is now mainstream conservative.

    Those that believe in free trade are actually Chinese agents.

  245. Tina says:

    Mulehead to investigate.

  246. Wes says:

    Here’s the basic argument I’m seeing on tariffs:

    China has unfair trade policies and high tariffs on imported US steel.

    Ergo, we need to implement massive tariffs and start trade wars with Canada and the EU to get back at China.

    Sounds logical.

    🙄

    I have a thought:

    Why don’t we just quit importing Chinese steel? It’s only two percent of our steel imports, so I’m sure other trading partners or even local steel mills can cover that easily.

  247. jason says:

    wes, you are obviously a Chinese agent.

    Shame on you.

  248. jason says:

    Trump promised tariffs and trade wars and by God we will have tariffs and trade wars.

    The President of the National Retail Federation, another Chinese agent

    “When costs of raw materials like steel and aluminum are artificially driven up, all Americans ultimately foot the bill in the form of higher prices for everything from canned goods to electronics and automobiles. The reality is that there is nothing this country will gain from such a one-sided policy. These tariffs threaten to destroy more US jobs than they will create while sending an alarming signal to our trading partners and diminishing markets for American-made products overseas.”

  249. jason says:

    Looks like the AFL-CIO conservatives are sleeping in…

    But I am sure they will be here later to explain why adopting the AFL-CIO’s agenda of the last 30 years is now brilliant new conservative thinking.

  250. dblaikie says:

    Sometimes it is hard for folks to see the forest through the trees. The fact is no tariff has been imposed yet. Please remember that Donald Trump wrote the “Art of the Deal.” This morning it is reported that both the EU and Japan are seeking an exemption from the tariff. Has anyone ever thought that in Trump world this real threat of tariff with the possibility of an exemption is a powerful bargaining chip. It wouldn’t be powerful if the threat wasn’t real. That is why it will go into effect in the near future. But if these countries begin to move on their own tariffs watch the start date change for them.

    So with that in mind what would folks on this site say or think if the result of all this is not tariffs but better trading policies that promote free trade between the USA and the EU and Japan. And after all China as the free traders have pointed only import 2% of our steel.

    You see, I remember how every one condemned Trump for his demand that countries pay up for the USA using defense resources to defend them. What happened? They began to pay. Has anyone thought that perhaps to get an exemption, at the end of the day, Japan and the EU will lower their tariffs with us thus creating a better environment for real free trade.

  251. mnw says:

    I misspoke about Lamb & abortion. He claims to be pro-life too.

    He sure has all the bases covered! Won’t vote for Pelosi. No gun control. Pro-life. Pro-Trump tariffs. Pro-Trump tax reform. If there ever was a me-too, Blue Dog, it’s him— I had thought we’d seen the last of the once-famous Blue Dog DEMs.

  252. mnw says:

    dblaikie

    Given China’s ginormous trade surplus with the U.S., China will likely seek a compromise, imo.

    With the EU, much of the problem is the infamous “non-tariff trade barriers.”

    “We’d really like to let you sell stuff here, but you’re not in compliance with our enviro refs” kind of thing.

  253. mnw says:

    sb ‘enviro regs’

  254. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #259
    Candidates like Lamb(D) are affectionately called “Blue Frauds”. Most are extinct.
    Lamb and others are attempting to resurrect the Democrats’ 2006 Playbook in suburban areas.

  255. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    Your prediction for Tuesday is……..

  256. mnw says:

    U.S. trade deficit with China $375 billion last year.

    Of course China will cheerfully wage “a trade war” with us, though. What have they got to lose?

    I’m really sick of talking about this, when there is a rather consequential Election Day after tomorrow.

  257. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mwn
    The great conservative Heartland journalist, Salena Zito, attended the Trump PA rally last night. Here is her report:

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-electrifies-western-pennsylvania-crowd-in-sales-pitch-for-rick-saccone/article/2651286

  258. mnw says:

    I dunno, Sheep. You have a prediction?

    I don’t have one. I’m usually wrong anyway, but I’ll wait until tomorrow night. I want to see if Trump moved the needle any.

    The Wise Men moved it from “lean R” to “likely D,” I think.

  259. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #266
    The RRH Wise Men went from Likely R to Lean D. Who cares?
    Right now, I would say Saccone by 6-8 pts. if Washington and Westmoreland Counties have a robust turnout.

  260. dblaikie says:

    If Saccone can get out his vote he will win. If all the noise and fury that the media have fabricated for this race depresses turnout he will lose.

  261. mnw says:

    I read Zito’s article just now. There was some hard info in it I hadn’t seen elsewhere.

    She says the crowd was capacity at 5000. The news photographers found rows of empty seats to pounce on, though. Maybe those people were in the can. If you go to a sold-out NHL game, you can find rows of empty seats too- until the game starts.

    Put Saccone’s photo next to Grandpa Munster’s. The resemblance is striking!

  262. Bitterlaw says:

    We are reweighting photos now?

  263. mnw says:

    I can’t get a clear fix on Lamb and abortion— which is probably the whole idea. The MSM describes him as pro-life, & he says he’s “a pro-life Catholic,” but apparently he also said he would have voted against the bill to ban abortion after 20 weeks.

    Sort of like Daschle- another “pro-life Catholic educated by nuns”— who always voted for abortion on demand in D.C., & then lied about it back home in SD.

  264. Bitterlaw says:

    Saccone loses. Sorry. Dems are out for blood..

  265. mnw says:

    I think Trump was smart to go stand next to Saccone. He reportedly told people that, “I might as well go. If he loses, I’ll get blamed for it whether I go or not.”

    BL

    Ever go to a Flyers’’ playoff game? I bet I could photograph rows of empty seats there too— if I started an hour before the buzzer.

  266. Bitterlaw says:

    Reweight the photos! Your theory would work better if there were not other sections with people in them.

  267. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #271
    Lamb ascribes to the Mario Cuomo position on abortion.

  268. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mwn
    Last night, The Donald referred to Lamb’s candidacy as “Lamb The Sham”. The slogan is spot-on.
    Trump also insinuated that Lamb’s voters are voting for him because of his good looks.(He followed that statement by saying, “but my looks are better”!)

  269. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    I guess that the Democrat Party has become the Party of Eugenics. Add this to the list of the Left’s Culture of Death!
    Bravo Brit Hume

    ?
    @brithume
    If abortion ok for Down syndrome, why not for any condition? As she says, “That was not the child I wanted.” Suppose it was a boy, and she wanted a girl? I would’ve aborted a fetus with Down syndome. Women need that right. https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-wouldve-aborted-a-fetus-with-down-syndrome-women-need-that-right/2018/03/09/3aaac364-23d6-11e8-94da-ebf9d112159c_story.html

  270. mnw says:

    BL

    I return to the NHL analogy.

    I dunno about Flyers, but at Blues games there are a lot of people in their seats for the stupid, boring pregame festivities, and there are a lot of fans out in the concourse drinking and eating, too.

    Trump would’ve preferred an overflow crowd, of course— with a lot of people listening outside on loud speakers.

  271. Wes says:

    I’m pro choice, but I don’t consider abortion an acceptable means of birth control for special needs children or the child’s sex.

    There has to be a middle ground between the no-abortion-any-time zealots and the militantly pro-abortion as opposed to pro-choice crowd.

  272. Wes says:

    Lamb is another Heath Shuler (D-NC). He’ll sound all the right notes to win but find a reason to do a 180° turn on all his campaign promises if elected.

  273. Michael says:

    GOP has a serious shot of boxing the Democrats out in CA48 with this new poll

    https://twitter.com/cmaiduc/status/972352022769942528

  274. NYCmike says:

    Saccone 52, Lamb 48.

  275. Tina says:

    Flaky just announced that he wants a trump primary challenger in 2020 on MTP.

  276. Bitterlaw says:

    I dunno about Flyers, but at Blues games there are a lot of people in their seats for the stupid, boring pregame festivities, and there are a lot of fans out in the concourse drinking and eating, too.

    Again, your analogy would work better if entire sections were vacant. I have been to many games in many sports where there are maybe a few people in a row but none where entire rows were empty. Give it up. You expected Trump to draw a huge crowd with people standing in the aisles. It did not happen. That does not mean that Trump failed. I would not cross the street to go to a campaign rally for a Congressional race but I would still vote for the Republican.

  277. Tina says:

    So, the president is a racist for referring to the wig as low iq.

    He also insulted a nobody nbc reporter.

  278. Tina says:

    I will blame the president when we lose the house seat on tuesday.

    Jebot

  279. Tgca says:

    277

    The problem with this elitist women’s argument on why to abort a Down syndrome fetus is generally about how difficult it’s life will be for the child and the family so let’s save everyone the trouble now and KILL it. Well, I guess that ridiculous rationale could be applied in many instances. I guess her reasoning could extend to:

    – the child wil be gay and gay life is generally a difficult to horrendous existence in many places and they have a high risk of contracting HIV, being abused, and living a miserable, abused life.
    – a black ghetto male child will have little to no opportunities based on statistics and face a life of crime, prejudicy, and violence.
    – a poor Chinese female child will burden the family and have little rights and a miserable existence in China so what’s the point when the govt and the people prefer a male child anyway.

    The list goes on and on that this elitist person’s excuses could be extrapolated to in order to MURDER what would otherwise be a baby whose choice to live and try to overcome their challenges are never given a chance because their mother MURDERED them. Their mother made the choice for them and vetoed their right to have a shot at life.

    As for her ridiculous notion that she would then grieve over aborting a down-syndrome fetus adds insult to injury. You willingly rip apart a fetus in your womb into pieces and then you expect to grieve for it. Oh please! Spare me your crocodile tears.

    ABORTION is an act of evil brought on by extreme selfishness, and I believe one day science will prove that these fetuses did experience their violent destruction and America can then join the list of most atrocious mass atrocities ever committed upon human kind, which by that time will be 50 million infanticides.

  280. Bitterlaw says:

    I won’t blame a Trump. However, the Dems are motivated to hand him a loss.

  281. Michael says:

    I’ll be going to an Ardmore campaign event. Now that I am in a D+22 congressional district I figured I’d still try and meet one of the GOP candidates and sign their petitions.

    Who are you supporting for PA-05 Bitterlaw?

  282. mnw says:

    BL

    I doubt you scanned the Salena Zito report which Sheeple linked to in 265.

    Let me give u the Readers Digest condensed version then: the capacity of the venue is 5000. Per Zito, the fire marshal said that there was “a capacity crowd.”

    At some of the Trump rallies last year, there were far bigger crowds. I don’t know if that venue would permit SRO attendees or not, but “capacity” means “capacity”— 5000 in this case.

  283. Michael says:

    A new Gravis Marketing poll will be coming out tomorrow on Missouri

  284. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw – I have been at events that were deemed “capacity” with people standing so more than capacity. What is your point? If he drew 5000 that is impressive. However, the idea that Trump can magically draw people to events in overflow numbers apparently did not happen here.

    I would not open my front door if Trump gave a speech on my front lawn. I am not into rallies.

  285. mnw says:

    I’ve never been to one, but I would go to one if it was close by.

    I’m not sure you and I have any actual disagreement about this matter.

    It will be interesting to see if the visit pumps up GOP turnout. It’s not DEM enthusiasm that worries me. It’s GOP apathy.

  286. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw – I saw it last November in my local elections for School Board and Town council. The Dems came out in numbers that were extraordinary for that type of election.

    “But Bitter! Even though you live there and worked the polls that day it did not really happen because 2016 exit polls in Alabama said the suburban voters love Trump” in 3…2…1…

  287. mnw says:

    I just read the news story about the event at the PPG, an article not by Zito. A different report.

    29 comments when I looked— 90% venomously anti-Trump. I don’t visit leftist gathering places, so I was surprised by the pure distilled hatred.

    As for the article itself, the accompanying photos sure showed a hell of a crowd. I suspect CNN had to look mighty hard to find “empty rows.”

    Crowd chants: “CNN sucks!”

  288. mnw says:

    PPG endorsed Saccone today. The Wise Men describe that paper as center left & say the endorsement is a bit of a surprise.

    My view is that newspaper endorsements only help in elections for Recorder of Deeds— where nobody has ever heard of either candidate.

  289. Michael says:

    Bitterlaw what Twp do you live in?

  290. Tina says:

    I did not see any empty seats. The fire marahall limited the numbers there, as they normall do.

    There was an overlow crowd that spilled inot another room

  291. Bitterlaw says:

    Radnor.

  292. Tina says:

    The rally could help if the race is close.

    Saccone looks like the pikksbury doughboy in the face.

    Not very energetic.

    I continue to be concerned about this race.

    Look for the trollies to blame president trump when it looks like lying lamb got to saccones right on several issues.

  293. Tina says:

    And bl points out 5000 is impressive. I do not do rallies, so I would not go either.

  294. mnw says:

    Sheeple

    Zito has a second article up, “What Conor Lamb Tells Us.”

    I hadn’t realize he was nominated by party committeepersons, not by voters in a primary. Zito doubts he could’ve won a primary without moving left on issues.

  295. BRENT says:

    saccone by 3 pts

  296. lisab says:

    Trump pardons Kristian Saucier, former sailor jailed for submarine pictures
    ————————————-

    i think he should be reinstated and get back pay

    the government ruined his life

  297. jason says:

    ’m pro choice, but I don’t consider abortion an acceptable means of birth control for special needs children or the child’s sex.

    There has to be a middle ground between the no-abortion-any-time zealots and the militantly pro-abortion as opposed to pro-choice crowd.”

    Amen.

  298. Cash Cow TM says:

    WV Legislative session ended at midnight, so we can all rest easy now.

    Passed budget before the end of the 60 day session for first time in memory.

    No need for the usual extended session for anywhere from 2-5 days to do the budget, saving taxpayers $35,000 per day.

  299. jason says:

    I’m really sick of talking about this,”

    Translation: the AFL-CIO conservative is having trouble explaining why he has adopted the AFL-CIO agenda of the last 30 years.

  300. Cash Cow TM says:

    WV elections:

    For U.S Senate
    6 Rs
    2 Ds

    For U.S. House of Represtenatives
    CD1
    1R
    3Ds

    CD2
    1R
    2 Ds

    CD 3 [Rep. Evan Jenkins leaving to run for US Sen]
    7 Rs
    4 Ds
    **********************
    In the 100 member WV House of Delegates there were about 30 new faces elected for the 2016-2018 term

    For 2018, there are 64 incumbents running, so there will be a turnover of AT LEAST 36%

  301. mnw says:

    Translation: I like to talk about Smoot Hawley but … I can not answer the question as to how American steel companies are supposed to compete with subsidized Chinese companies.

    Oh… I know! “Be more efficient!” That’s all there is to it.

    Zzzzz

  302. jason says:

    Sometimes it is hard for folks to see the forest through the trees. The fact is no tariff has been imposed yet.”

    I love this fake argument.

    Trump has announced blanket tariffs and given big labor everything it has wanted for the last 30 years.

    So everyone from industry leaders and the GOP is commenting on what he actually announced.

    dblaikie claims there will be less of a problem if Trump backs down.

    Well duhhh, yeah, the more he backs down on tariffs the less of a problem there will be.

  303. lisab says:

    If abortion ok for Down syndrome, why not for any condition? As she says, “That was not the child I wanted.” Suppose it was a boy, and she wanted a girl? I would’ve aborted a fetus with Down syndome.
    ———————-

    already happens

  304. mnw says:

    Nucor is one of the most efficient steel companies in the world, according to a lot of stock analysts. Their plants are new and state of the art.

    jason: “Well … if Nucor were even more efficient, they could compete with Chinese companies who dump their product below cost! “

  305. lisab says:

    In 2010, there was an estimated total of 1,386 annual births with Down syndrome across the nine states, corresponding to 1 in 824 live births. Live birth prevalence ranged from 1 in 729 in Florida to 1 in 1,256 in Kentucky. The estimated reduction percentage — the proportion of live births reduced as a result of elective termination — was 39 percent overall and ranged from 26 percent in Indiana and Michigan to 52 percent in New Jersey. The researchers estimate that without terminations, an additional 898 individuals with Down syndrome would have been born in the nine states during 2010.

  306. lisab says:

    china clearly cheats

    they should be targeted for punishment

    targetting anyone not cheating on steel is a mistake

  307. mnw says:

    Nucor is 100% nonunion, btw.

    jason “Well… Nucor needs to throw out the unions and and and… be more efficient!… or something.”

    Zzzzz

  308. jason says:

    I can not answer the question as to how American steel companies are supposed to compete with subsidized Chinese companies”

    Yeah, I have answered that putting a Band-Aid on a dam leak is stupid. The answer is solid pro-business policies and investment in technology and innovation, not tariffs.

    Have you commented on these statements from people who are actually affected and know what they are talking about?

    “When costs of raw materials like steel and aluminum are artificially driven up, all Americans ultimately foot the bill in the form of higher prices for everything from canned goods to electronics and automobiles. The reality is that there is nothing this country will gain from such a one-sided policy”

    When costs of raw materials like steel and aluminum are artificially driven up, all Americans ultimately foot the bill in the form of higher prices for everything from canned goods to electronics and automobiles. The reality is that there is nothing this country will gain from such a one-sided policy”

    Business Roundtable strongly disagrees with today’s announcement because it will hurt the U.S. economy and American companies, workers and consumers by raising prices and resulting in foreign retaliation against U.S. exporters,” Joshua Bolten, president of the influential Business Roundtable, said in a statement”

    Make no mistake, this is a tax on American families,” Matthew Shay, president of the National Retail Federation, said in a statement.”

    ”The Administration’s announcement of new tariffs on steel and aluminum imports threatens to drastically increase the prices of many building materials specified by architects,” Carl Elefante, president of the American Institute of Architects, said in a statement.

    Randy Noel, chairman of the National Association of Home Builders, said in a statement. “.. Tariffs hurt consumers and harm housing affordability.”

    What say you, AFL-CIO conservative?

  309. jason says:

    Huh, the first two statements were not supposed to be repeated.

  310. jason says:

    It was supposed to be

    “John Bozzella, president of the Association of Global Automakers, said in a statement. “With one stroke of the pen, much of the promised benefit of tax reform and other Administration initiatives aimed at reviving manufacturing and protecting national security could be undercut.”

  311. JC says:

    Wes says:
    March 11, 2018 at 8:23 am
    Here’s the basic argument I’m seeing on tariffs:

    China has unfair trade policies and high tariffs on imported US steel.

    Ergo, we need to implement massive tariffs and start trade wars with Canada and the EU to get back at China.
    ——————————-

    Er… what’s your a alternative? Accept unfair trade rules forever which is costing us billions and closing factories? All based on the absurd logic that the unfair party might move to make trade even more unfair?

    What kind of logic is that? It doesn’t even make sense. If one country has it’s imports taxed at 2%, and the other is taxing at 20% for the same product, how the heck is that fair? How does this help the 2% country? How is that reasonable or beneficial at all. How is it a good thing when one country’s exports are being taxed so high that it can’t compete with the other?

    Really, how? How is this good for us?

    And why shouldn’t that country seek to renegotiate a better deal?

    Wes, does a country not have a right to renegotiate a new trade policy if they feel the current one is unfair?

    It reminds me of the ridiculous logic the left uses about how we shouldn’t criticize radical Islam because that might incite more radical islam. That’s nonsense. What they are basically saying is don’t fight and accept your opponents rules.

    Every country in the world has a right to negotiate or renegotiate trade deals with there partners. There is nothing ‘crazy’ about that. It is simply part of life. Things change. Times change. What worked then may not work now.

  312. JC says:

    And don’t tell me these absurd trade agreements result of ‘free trade’. These imbalances did not result from the free market. They were implemented by governments. US steel would never agree to the terms currently in place because it puts them in an extreme disadvantage.

  313. lisab says:

    the price of steel per ton, (hrb), feb. 2018

    china: $556
    usa: $838

  314. jason says:

    lisab, a nanny state loving socialist, does not qualify as an AFL-CIO conservative.

    She qualifies as an AFL-CIO toady.

  315. jason says:

    JC, were you always for the AFL-CIO agenda or did you become a fan after Trump was elected?

  316. JC says:

    Jason, why is having nearly a trillion dollar trade deficit a good, ‘conservative’ thing to want?

    What is conservative about this? Why is trade imbalances something a conservative should believe in? How do trade deficits help us?

    And remember, the free market isn’t making these agreements – the governments are.

    Why is this conservative?

  317. jason says:

    Things change. Times change. What worked then may not work now.”

    Right. Free trade is out.

    Protectionism and isolationism and the AFL-CIO agenda is in. “Fair trade = no trade” is now in.

    Tax hikes are in because that is all these tariffs are, a tax hike on the American consumer.

  318. Tina says:

    Another day here of muh trade war.

    I am out.

  319. jason says:

    So JC, you didn’t answer my question.

    When did you adopt the AFL-CIO’s agenda, an organization that spends hundreds of millions to defeat conservatives and elect committed leftists?

    Before Trump was elected or after?

  320. Robbie says:

    NYCmike is currently running up and down the street pumping his fist. His moron ultra conservative buddies may have wrecked the Utah GOP because of their desire for purity. MAGA!

    Taniel
    ?@Taniel

    Potential chaos in Utah: the state GOP passed a rule barring candidates from qualifying by gathering signatures—but that runs afoul state law & is may possibly block any candidate from appearing as a Republican on November’s ballot: https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/03/09/no-republican-candidates-on-the-utah-ballot-this-year-its-a-possibility-after-planned-fix-falters/

  321. jason says:

    Jason, why is having nearly a trillion dollar trade deficit a good, ‘conservative’ thing to want?”

    Why are artificial shenanigans that fail to address the real reasons for trade imbalances something you want to do.

    A trade deficit just means you are buying more than you are selling, nothing sinister about it.

    The way to address it is to have more products and services others want to buy.

    A pro-business agenda with low taxes and sensible regulations focused on technology and innovation is one way to have more products and services at the right price for others to buy.

    Tariffs are just a tax on consumers, a job killer in other industries outside the ones you want to artificially protect.

    Maybe as NYC ssys, popular politically in some segments, but bad economics and bad policy.

  322. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:03 pm
    Another day here of muh trade war.

    I am out.

    – It’s been a rough week for Tinfoil. She desperately wanted to see George P Bush fail to avoid a runoff in Texas. She was ready to celebrate the supposed end of the Bush dynasty, but alas George P crushed his competition so now Tinfoil has to go back to using “globalist” as a cover term for Jews like her fellow Trump apologist Ann Coulter.

  323. JC says:

    Jason, you have no leg to stand on. You’re not addressing any of my questions – which boils down to ‘how are trade imbalances good for us’ – because, I suspect, you can’t.

    You can’t explain why a 2% to 20% tax imbalance is a good thing. You can’t explain why the country being ripped off should NOT be aloud to renegotiate a better deal. To me, that is an inherent and inalienable right of every country.

    I believe in free trade – in the literal sense that trade should be market based. But none of these trade agreements are the result of the free market. If they were, you would not get these kinds of absurd and abusive imbalances.

    Jason, if we had free trade – which we don’t – would these huge trade imbalances exist?

  324. Bitterlaw says:

    Still waiting on how a real estate developer came to be considered an expert on trade policy.

  325. jason says:

    The amoral scumbag just showed up.

    Said I would go along with tariffs because I approve of everything Trump does.

    LOL.

  326. Tina says:

    I see that the muh blue wave in texas is back.

  327. Robbie says:

    It’s a good thing Trump decided to slap a “R” after his name otherwise the Trump chumps at HHR would be disgusted and appalled by a president who had an affair with a porn star and then paid her $130,000 in hush money.

    I’m quite sure the MAGA morons would have had no problems with Obama had he done the same because integrity is such a big part of the red hat brigade.

  328. Tina says:

    Where is the Ig report btw?

    I asked for a link.

  329. jason says:

    You can’t explain why the country being ripped off should NOT be aloud to renegotiate a better deal. To me, that is an inherent and inalienable right of every country.”

    Zzzzzzz…

    Nice moving of the goal posts, but it won’t fly.

    Nobody says you can’t negotiate, that is ridiculous

    What we are talking about here are the blanket tariffs Trump is imposing.

    Stay focused.

  330. Tina says:

    I am disgusted and appaled that hillary is not President.

    Jebot aka Muh Blue Wave, Texas.

  331. Tina says:

    Did the Speaker of the CoC speak out against the may 206 tariffs?

    Or did he roll over because obama is an Aa?

  332. Wes says:

    I never thought I’d live to see Republicans actively revisit Smoot-Hawley.

    Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

    –Santayana

  333. Tina says:

    Phillipe Reines a surrogate for Her Thigness indicates that trump likely wins in 2020.

  334. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:16 pm
    The amoral scumbag just showed up.

    Said I would go along with tariffs because I approve of everything Trump does.

    LOL.

    – Remember, everyone. HHR’s biggest fraud, Jason fraud, thinks I’m an amoral scumbag because I am appalled by a president who had an affair with a porn star and paid her hush money. Jason fraud also thinks I’m an amoral scumbag because I opposed good ole Roy Moore who molested a 14 year old girl.

    Of course, we all know that since Jason fraud is HHR’s biggest fraud, he’d have had no problems at all if Obama had an affair with a porn star and paid her hush money. And of course, he’d have had no problems with a Democrat Senate candidate who molested a 14 year old girl.

  335. Wes says:

    It’s too early to say that, Tina. I would say Trump is a favorite now. This isn’t October 2020 though.

  336. Tina says:

    THE WHEELS ARE COMING OFF THE TRUMP CLOWN CAR

    New Yorker Magazine

    “Minute by minute, the wheels are coming off the clown car that is the Trump Administration. The circus animals are deserting, wriggling through every available window and door. Last week, it was the chief economic adviser, Gary Cohn. Meanwhile, Robert Mueller’s investigation grows increasingly ominous for the President. Also, porn stars.

    This could have been written by a trolly at hhr.

  337. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:16 pm
    Still waiting on how a real estate developer came to be considered an expert on trade policy.

    – Don’t you understand? Trump won. According to the red hat brigade that means everything he does is correct.

  338. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m appalled that he found a pretty unattractive p0rn star instead of a pretty one. What’s the point of being a billionaire if you can’t get a high quality porn star.

  339. jason says:

    Obama had he done the same because integrity is such a big part of the red hat brigade.”

    The amoral scumbag who has the integrity of a gnat talks about the integrity of others?

    I guarantee you one thing THERE IS NOT ONE DEMOCRAT OR ONE MEMBER OF THE MSM THAT WOULD CARE IF OBAMA HAD AN AFFAIR TWELVE YEARS BEFORE HE BECAME PRESIDENT. NOT ONE.

  340. Tina says:

    Oh, i agree with that wes.

    Look at groper 41 after ds and how he phuqed up his re election a year later.

  341. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:19 pm
    Where is the Ig report btw?

    I asked for a link.

    – Hey, Tinfoil. Where’s Dear Leader Trump’s lawsuit about Mueller getting his transition emails from the GSA. You and lisab assured me in December Mueller had broken the law and Trump would sue and win.

  342. Wes says:

    Just speaking for myself, I don’t care if Presidents have affairs. The President is not the Archbishop of Canterbury or the Pope.

  343. Tina says:

    Where is the ig report and can you link to it?

  344. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:19 pm
    I am disgusted and appaled that hillary is not President.

    Jebot aka Muh Blue Wave, Texas.

    – Tinfoil is disgusted by “globalists” aka Jews. She probably was pumping her fist in the air yesterday when Steve Bannon told Le Pen’s National Front Party to wear criticisms of racism as a badge of honor.

  345. jason says:

    “Democrat Senate candidate who molested a 14 year old girl.”

    ZZZZZZZ….

    If the allegations are proven I would have a problem.

    Uncorroborated allegations brought forth by Gloria All Red on the eve of an election?

    Excuse me if I have reservations. And GFY.

  346. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:21 pm
    I never thought I’d live to see Republicans actively revisit Smoot-Hawley.

    Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it.

    –Santayana

    – I also doubt you thought the Republican Party would nominate an unqualified oaf who spent most of his life attacking Republicans and donating to Democrats like Pelosi an Schumer, but here we are.

  347. Tina says:

    So, I am an antisemite.

    Can cg aka the proprietor of a blog of 1 commentator provide any commentary!

  348. Tina says:

    Again, where is the ig report, jebot?

    I know lying is routine with you.

  349. jason says:

    And of course, an amoral scumbag like you is no better than Roy Moore.

    You guys should get a room.

  350. Tina says:

    Jebot is mad because he ran out of newspapers.

    No newspapers= no paper planes constructed in the basement.

  351. Wes says:

    Elmer Gantry just creamed himself when I posted that link in 362.

  352. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:23 pm

    I guarantee you one thing THERE IS NOT ONE DEMOCRAT OR ONE MEMBER OF THE MSM THAT WOULD CARE IF OBAMA HAD AN AFFAIR TWELVE YEARS BEFORE HE BECAME PRESIDENT. NOT ONE.

    – Poor Jason fraud has had to resort to “whataboutism” to defend Trump and the porn star.

    If Obama had had an affair with a porn star and paid her hush money just days before the election, Jason fraud would have been here demanding Ryan and McConnell begin investigations into the payments and impeachment hearings as well.

    Trump’s lucky he ran with a R after his name or Jason fraud would have really been upset about this.

  353. Tina says:

    I think it is funny that trump called the wig, low iq.

    He said that the wig admits no collusion, but wants to impeach, for no legal or valid reason.

  354. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:23 pm
    Oh, i agree with that wes.

    Look at groper 41 after ds and how he phuqed up his re election a year later.

    – It shows how morally vacant Tinfoil is. In order to defend behavior she would have attacked Obama over, she has to compare GHWB patting a woman on the butt to Trump screwing a dirty porn star right after his son was born and then paying the porn star hush money right before the election.

    Can you imagine how unhinged Tinfoil would have been if Obama had done this?

  355. lisab says:

    I’m appalled that he found a pretty unattractive p0rn star
    ——————-

    she was considerably younger then

  356. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:28 pm
    “Democrat Senate candidate who molested a 14 year old girl.”

    ZZZZZZZ….

    If the allegations are proven I would have a problem.

    Uncorroborated allegations brought forth by Gloria All Red on the eve of an election?

    Excuse me if I have reservations. And GFY.

    – The only reason you had reservations is Roy Moore had a R after his name and you didn’t want to lose the Senate seat. Don’t act like you were concerned about due process or any other pathetic excuse. You were willing to see Roy win for the same reason you continue to excuse Trump. He had a R after his name.

  357. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:29 pm
    Again, where is the ig report, jebot?

    I know lying is routine with you.

    – Where is Trump’s lawsuit over the GSA emails you and lisab assured me was coming in December?

    I know your lying routine.

  358. Tina says:

    And patting a woman on the butt is not a minor thing.

    Sexual assault is an act in which a person sexually touches another person without that person’s consent, or coerces or physically forces a person to engage in a sexual act against their will.[1] It is a form of sexual violence which includes rape (forced vaginal, anal or oral penetration or drug facilitated sexual assault), groping, child sexual abuse or the torture of the person in a sexual manner.[1

  359. lisab says:

    only you said there would be a lawsuit

    lies are not a good colour on you

  360. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:29 pm
    And of course, an amoral scumbag like you is no better than Roy Moore.

    You guys should get a room.

    – Yeah, that’s the ticket, Jason fraud. Because I opposed Roy Moore, I’m as bad as the guy who molested a 14 year old girl.

    I get it, though. You backed yourself into a corner defending Roy Moore and now you’re struggling to find a way out so you just try and defect.

    Maybe next time you won’t put such a premium on party affiliation when you have to decide about molestation.

  361. Tina says:

    He probably would have gotten a sexual battery offense for patting.

    But groping is even more serious.

  362. Tina says:

    A lawsuit? Wtf.

  363. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:43 pm
    He probably would have gotten a sexual battery offense for patting.

    But groping is even more serious.

    – Poor, Tinfoil. She’s so desperate to defend Trump she’s attacking a 92 year old man.

  364. Tina says:

    Where is the ig report?

  365. Tina says:

    Attacking a 92 year old man that patted and groped.

    Heck yes. I also attacked his family, like mute 43 and flub for admitting that he had a problem, which they indicated was due to his age, and doing nothing to not put him in that position.

  366. Tina says:

    The bush bros and presidents wife laughed about it and thought it was “funny.”

  367. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:47 pm
    Where is the ig report?

    – Where’s Trump’s lawsuit claiming Mueller illegally got his transition emails from the GSA? You were certain Mueller violated the law. Please point me to the court filings. You’re a legal expert so i trust you anytime you make such a declarative statement about the law.

  368. JC says:

    About the 2020 election and polls.

    One thing that people are missing, and missed during the last campaign, was how Trump’s approval was so unevenly distributed.

    Polls vary widely, but most have his national approval in the low 40s. Not great obviously. Yet individual state polls, particularly the rust belt and other swing states, routinely show him in positive territory and generally outperforming the national trend.

    That’s because most of his opposition is isolated in high populous democratic states like CA and NY. His disapproval in those places are staggeringly high… and they make up a large proportion of the total US population. However, they are also irrelevant (in terms of presidential elections) because they serve as a huge vote sink for the dem party. It doesn’t matter if 100% of the people in CA vote against Trump. It won’t gain Dems any more electoral votes than if they win it by 51%.

    Also, Trump is not as warmly received as other Republicans in some tradition GOP states like Texas (big population), Georgia, or Utah. Again, that drives down his national average. But he is far more liked in those rust belt states than other republicans have been, which is more important for winning the election

  369. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:49 pm
    Attacking a 92 year old man that patted and groped.

    Heck yes. I also attacked his family, like mute 43 and flub for admitting that he had a problem, which they indicated was due to his age, and doing nothing to not put him in that position.

    – An yet you have never attacked Trump for the credible allegations more than 20 woman made in 2016. If it’s good for the goose, why isn’t it good for the gander, Tinfoil?

    Of course, the mistake I’m making is trying to have a semi-rational discussion with a lunatic who believes in deep state conspiracies.

  370. Tina says:

    Pretty clear the jebot lies.

    Lied qbout the ig report

    Lied about mulehead and the gsa emails.

    Lies 24/7 and claims to be a catholic.

  371. Tina says:

    The jebot also defends groper 43 and the batteries and the assaults.

    Sad.

  372. Tina says:

    Groper 41

  373. Tina says:

    Jebot having a tough week with hogg too.

  374. Robbie says:

    Here’s why the Stormy Daniels story is potentially crippling for Orange Donnie. If Stormy Daniels is allowed to break her NDA as most suspect will be the case, it will do two things.

    First, the country will hear Daniels’ tawdry story that will be buttressed by the text messages and photos she apparently has. The story will also get a lot of play because, as we know, sex sells.

    Second and maybe just as importantly, if Daniels can get out of her NDA, that probably opens the door for the scores of other woman who have NDA’s with Trump to get out of their agreements as well. Steve Bannon was quoted as saying there were as many as 100 woman Trump paid off.

    Will Stormy Daniels end Trump’s presidency? Nope. But the story will go even further to ruin what little credibility Trump has. The country is tired of the drama and this will only exacerbate it.

  375. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 11, 2018 at 3:54 pm
    Pretty clear the jebot lies.

    Lied qbout the ig report

    Lied about mulehead and the gsa emails.

    Lies 24/7 and claims to be a catholic.

    – Bless your heart. I know it’s been a tough time for you.

  376. Robbie says:

    Can you imagine who upset the HHR Trump chumps would be if Obama had called FoxNews host Bret Baier a sleepy eyed son of a b!tch? The red hatters would be in a tizzy and demanding Congressional action.

    When Dear Orange Donnie does it to Chuck Todd, it’s giggle, giggle. Isn’t Trump so funny.

    Integrity? Hah!

  377. Tina says:

    Bless tour heart wrote the liar who claimed that the ig report was out.

  378. Tina says:

    Where is the ig report and please link to it?

  379. Tina says:

    Pocahantas is not running in 2020 and she refuses to take a dna test,

  380. jason says:

    First, the country will hear Daniels’ tawdry story that will be buttressed by the text messages and photos she apparently has. The story will also get a lot of play because, as we know, sex sells.”

    Zzzzzz…

    Bill Clinton survived sex in the Oval Office while in office.

    Nobody outsode the fake news sources and Wobbie will care if Trump did or didn’t have an affair over a decade before he became President.

    Of course Wobbie the amoral scumbag will only pretend to care, if Jeb Bush were accused of incest he would be here saying it was consensual.

  381. jason says:

    ecause I opposed Roy Moore,”

    Zzzzz…

    Opposed my ass. You could care less about any allegations, amoral scumbag.

    You “opposed” him because you knew that if the little Marxist turd won it would be bad for Trump’s agenda.

  382. jason says:

    Wobbie defending fake journolists like Chuck Todd and Mika is hilarious.

  383. Tina says:

    Rottie sad about Pocahantas.

  384. lisab says:

    so long as my tax cut stays

    i am more than happy to buy the trumpster condoms

  385. mnw says:

    Wobbles & his lefty fellow travelers just do not get that the voters aren’t biting on their obsession with Stormy Daniels.

    They’re laughing at you, Wobbles! Nobody cares, & you …Just. Don’t. Get. It.

    My greatest hope is that the DEMs concentrate on muh porn star in the midterms!

  386. lisab says:

    if he has sex with stormy in the white house,

    will we get another tax cut?

  387. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Am not sure the political party of Bill Clinton and Anthony Weiner is going to get much traction attacking Trump and Stormy Daniels.

  388. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    328. “NYCmike is currently running up and down the street pumping his fist. His moron ultra conservative buddies may have wrecked the Utah GOP because of their desire for purity. MAGA!

    Taniel
    ?@Taniel

    Potential chaos in Utah: the state GOP passed a rule barring candidates from qualifying by gathering signatures—but that runs afoul state law & is may possibly block any candidate from appearing as a Republican on November’s ballot: https://www.sltrib.com/news/politics/2018/03/09/no-republican-candidates-on-the-utah-ballot-this-year-its-a-possibility-after-planned-fix-falters/…

    Robbie, don’t worry the Republican Party will still dominate in Utah. What will emerge from this nonsense is Utah will adopt a primary only system to nominate Republican candidates.

  389. jason says:

    Wobbie could care less about Stormy Daniels…

    This is all the amoral scumbag cares about:

    “But the story will go even further to ruin what little credibility Trump has. The country is tired of the drama and this will only exacerbate it.”

  390. jason says:

    Am not sure the political party of Bill Clinton and Anthony Weiner is going to get much traction attacking Trump and Stormy Daniels.”

    Wobbie knows that.

    But anything that remotely helps his goal of overturning the results of the election will attract like flies to horsecrap.

  391. jason says:

    I think Stormy Daniels is already factored into the electorate. Like the Hollywood tape.

    There are no paragons of virtue anymore, real or imaginary.

  392. jason says:

    “Steve Bannon was quoted as saying there were as many as 100 woman Trump paid off.”

    Wow, plus there is probably 500 he didn’t pay off.

  393. jason says:

    Plus another 5000 that didn’t have sex with him but will say they did.

  394. jason says:

    Fauxcahontas says nobody is taking away her Native American ancestry, not even DNA.

  395. jason says:

    Of course, if she wants to run, she could take it later in the campaign and silence the critics at a more important juncture.

    But frankly, I think she is lying.

  396. Tgca says:

    Here’s how most of the country (67%), adjusted for the 4 largest states, 2 left-leaning and 2 right-leaning, voted in 2016. These states make up 109M (CA 40M, TX 28M, FL 21M, NY 20M) of 325M US total for a total of 33%. The 5th largest state, PA is significantly less with 13M and included for reference purpose.


    Party Dem GOP Other Total

    Total 65.9 63.0 5.9 134.8
    % 48.8 46.7 4.5 100.0


    Take out 4 biggest states

    CA 8.8 4.5 .9 14.2
    TX 3.9 4.7 .4 9.0
    FL 4.5 4.6 .4 9.5
    NY 4.6 2.8 .4 7.8
    Subtotal 21.8 16.6 2.2 40.5


    Then adjusted total votes look different because it shows just 2 or 3 states can skew the totals but not represent the vast majority of how the US votes which is generally leaning center-right.

    Total 44.1 46.4 3.7 94.2
    % 46.8 49.3 3.9 100.0

    So Clinton lead popular vote by 2.9 coming from basically 2 states, and Trump lead popular vote by 2.3M in 46 states.

    This is why electoral votes matter over large population centers in a few states because in the end, the electoral votes even out the representation throughout all the states. Otherwise, there would be no US and we would be regional countries like Europe because 46 states would never let just 4 states run the country. That was the basis for the constitution and the framers understood that.

  397. Michael says:

    Who’s on twitter?

  398. Tgca says:

    I’m not on Twitter or Facebook or Instagram but I’m on Grindr every now and then. 🙂

  399. Michael says:

    411 I am not since I am living a pretty good life lol.

  400. Michael says:

    Not to say using Grindr is bad lol, I am just saying I am in a good place

  401. Tgca says:

    411

    Are you suggesting I’m a PIG SL*T HO?

    I only chat there. In like 5 years, I’ve met like 3 people…at Starbucks mind you from there. You’d be surprised how many married men with wives go there looking for Friends and Networking. It’s nice to know straight guys want to broaden their social and professional connections. 🙂

  402. Tgca says:

    I used to live next to a university and I found most guys become very friendly on Fri and Sat nights starting about 1AM. Interesting.

  403. Tgca says:

    Now that I think about it, HHR and Grindr are the only 2 places I actually chat with folks via the Internet. Hmmm…
    Just gotta make I dont mix up my conversations. 🙂

  404. Phil says:

    Yeah, Robbie. The whole country gives a flying F what Trump did with Stormy a decade before he ran for president. The whole country is on the edge of their seat waiting for the details.

    By all means, impeach him. Go for it Dems. Get rid of his immoral ass at the same time you make fun of the VP for not having meals with women other than his wife.

    The MSM continues to make fools of themselves.

  405. Wes says:

    The party of TED KENNEDY is outraged Trump had an affair while a registered DEMOCRAT over a decade ago.

    Did Rod Serling write this?

  406. Phil says:

    Welcome to the Twilight Zone Part II, the Democratic Party – MSM version.

  407. Tgca says:

    The US is going to care about Trump’s trysts back in the day when we have sperm-stained blue dress in the National Archives? I guess the FeminNazis will object but not sure many others care if it’s not going on while he’s in the WH.

  408. Wes says:

    Honestly, Tg, although I’m no Trump fan, I wouldn’t care if Trump were banging a whole troupe of porn stars in the White House. We’re not electing clerics here. Presidents have fathered children via extramarital affairs with slaves, been gay, and used cigars as sexual pleasuring devices.

    An affair with a porn star is pretty low on my give-a-damn meter.

  409. Wes says:

    One of my favorite Presidents–Warren G. Harding–had a notoriously scandalous sex life. That didn’t stop him from rolling back much Progressive Era idiocy, reducing taxes and regulations, cutting back federal interference in people’s lives, and triggering a lengthy peacetime boom that ended when his grossly unqualified Commerce Secretary, Herbert Hoover, used Progressive Era thinking to combat the early 1930s recession and signed tax increases, including Smoot-Hawley, that worsened the situation into the Great Depression.

  410. Tgca says:

    Wes

    It’s not that people care about it, its that certain social media outlets with an agenda and the MSM use their vast resources to report and vastly distort on this 24/7, as a means of indoctrination so they can get a desired result. If you distort and say something enough times, people start to take it as valid. Both sides do this but the left and the MSM are in bed together to further an agenda when the MSM should be a separate entity applying the rules without bias, and we all know that is not the case.

    When 96% of the MSM self reports in polls historically that they are Dems and support Dem ideology, it’s riduculous to expect that they have no bias slant in their reporting. It’s like saying Catholics don’t have a bias to the Pope as the worlds leading religious authority chosen by God.

  411. Wes says:

    If you distort and say something enough times, people start to take it as valid.

    Didn’t GWB use this tactic to lie us into war in Iraq, Tg?

    (Who didn’t see that coming? :-))

  412. Tgca says:

    I think we can agree that GWB s the greatest POTUS since Reagan. The question is whether his experts negligently relied on faulty data because they did not do due diligence. To me, this is one of Colin Powell’s biggest failures, besides not finishing the job in the 1st Iraq war which he miscalculated on ending too early. But then again, Powell was always big on taking credit for certain things and deflecting blame on other things…but he voted for Obama because he thought he was making s qualified. What a joke!

  413. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – I am a paragon of virtue. GFY.

  414. ssq says:

    Trump only had an alleged affair because he was a Democrat.

    As a Republican he would never do that.

  415. Tina says:

    Muh Porn Star is important. Its a top 3 issue.

    Jebot

  416. Wes says:

    We can agree GWB is tied with Obama as the worst President since Carter. I’ll give you that, Tg.

  417. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 11, 2018 at 4:05 pm
    Bless tour heart wrote the liar who claimed that the ig report was out.

    – I know you’re mentally challenged, but all I did was point to the NYT and WaPo story which reported what would be in the IG report.

    What’s got you so mad is the report apparently isn’t going to say what you wanted it to say. Sad.

  418. jason says:

    Jason – I am a paragon of virtue. GFY.”

    That right, I forgot you were a politician.

    I stand corrected.

    In politics, only Bitter is a paragon of virtue.

  419. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 11, 2018 at 4:09 pm
    First, the country will hear Daniels’ tawdry story that will be buttressed by the text messages and photos she apparently has. The story will also get a lot of play because, as we know, sex sells.”
    Zzzzzz…
    Bill Clinton survived sex in the Oval Office while in office.
    Nobody outsode the fake news sources and Wobbie will care if Trump did or didn’t have an affair over a decade before he became President.
    Of course Wobbie the amoral scumbag will only pretend to care, if Jeb Bush were accused of incest he would be here saying it was consensual.

    – Hey, Jason fraud. Read what I wrote.

    In 387, the last paragraph began “Will Stormy Daniels end Trump’s presidency? Nope.”

    Try harder next time, Roy Moore supporting fraud.

  420. Wes says:

    I claim the title of paragon of virtue. If anyone deserves it, it is I for being in a longstanding relationship with an exotic dancer.

  421. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 11, 2018 at 4:17 pm
    Wobbie defending fake journolists like Chuck Todd and Mika is hilarious.

    – Jason fraud defending things Trump does because he has a R after his name when he would have blasted Obama for the same is hilarious and shows yet again Jason fraud threw away his integrity to support Trump.

  422. Tina says:

    Powell is an ahole. I know he is a general. But the guy was wrong a lot.

    Look at what he did

    Reagans tear that wall down speech. He and Howard Baker poo poo it. Reagan should not have “used those words.”

    2002/2003, he said iraq had wmd and gave the fraud speech.

    2006, he never tells the sc that his depuy leaked valerie Plame. Libbey gets railroaded and mute 43 fails to pardon him.

    He gets caught telling everybody that bj is still diking bimbos. Then, throws his support around The jebots hillary.

  423. Tgca says:

    Wes. Sorry. I meant to say.

    I think we can agree that GWB is the greatest POTUS since Reagan and in the top 10 POTUS, and top 5 GOP, and top 3 war time. Sorry for not being explicit.

  424. jason says:

    Didn’t GWB use this tactic to lie us into war in Iraq, Tg?”

    No.

    (Didn’t you see that coming)

    And I rand Warren Harding as one of the worst Presidents of the century along with Wilson, Eisenhower, Carter and Obama.

    Of course, I rank GWB as one of the best.

  425. jason says:

    But at least wes and I agree that tariffs suck.

  426. Tina says:

    Nope, you said the ig report on mccabe was out,

    A lie. I then said you got caught pushing the bs from the wp and the slimes, which cited mccabes friends as sources. You denied it.

    But keep lying.

  427. Wes says:

    As far as we know, Obama never cheated on Michelle. Tump has had affairs. Fair enough.

    All four Presidents who served in the 1960s cheated on their wives.

    Jimmy carter and Ronald Reagan were loyal to their spouses.

    Warren Harding was routinely unfaithful to Florence while insofar as we know, Herbert Hoover never strayed from Lou Henry.

    Affairs or lack thereof do not seem to correlate with the quality of a President’s administration.

  428. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    March 11, 2018 at 4:38 pm
    Wobbles & his lefty fellow travelers just do not get that the voters aren’t biting on their obsession with Stormy Daniels.
    They’re laughing at you, Wobbles! Nobody cares, & you …Just. Don’t. Get. It.
    My greatest hope is that the DEMs concentrate on muh porn star in the midterms!

    – This is so laughable, but then again it does come from the idiot who thinks it’s great the FBI has been diminished.

    MNW thinks I’m a leftist because I don’t support Trump’s vulgar populism and embarrassing behavior as president. Wrong.

    I’m the same conservative Republican I was before Trump came along. The difference between simpletons like MNW and me is I didn’t throw away my integrity to support Trump.

  429. Tina says:

    Muh porn star replacd muh russian.

    In jebot world, either of the above would result in muh impeachment,

    When muh imoeachment happens, the paper plane chrasher will be satisified.

  430. Tina says:

    The , we get muh replacement and void the 2016 election resukts, all because the jebots candidate, hillary lost..

  431. Wes says:

    Of course, I rank GWB as one of the best.

    Jason is trying to give me a heart attack from laughing so hard at this idiotic statement.

    That he says Harding is one our worst Presidents ever proves he knows not a goddamn thing about the two and a half years from March 1921 to August 1923.

    By the way, Jason, yes, Bush did lie about Iraq. Hence why there were no WMDs and he himself blamed “bad intelligence” for his failure there latein his Administration.

  432. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 11, 2018 at 5:07 pm
    Wobbie could care less about Stormy Daniels…
    This is all the amoral scumbag cares about:
    “But the story will go even further to ruin what little credibility Trump has. The country is tired of the drama and this will only exacerbate it.”

    – Wrong, Jason fraud. I do care because I think it’s important for the president to be a good and decent person. That’s why I thought Clinton should have resigned or been removed.

    Unlike you, I don’t let the R or D after the name sway my thinking on matters like this. You do because you’re fraud.

  433. Tina says:

    I only let Hillary sway my thinking.

    Jebot

  434. Tgca says:

    Since Clinton, the country views sex scandals diffetently. Yes, many POTUS were screwing around before him but it did not come to light while they were in office. Folks are de-sensitized now.

    In addition, will anyone respect or believe a porn star trying to get her 15 min of fame and make some cash? If she were not a Ho, she would have credibility…and yes, porn stars are consideted Hos or something less by most. But sometimes Hos can go on to other legit things, so not opposed to that. There’s always been Hos and there will always be Hos so really no big deal. You just gotta ask yourself, do you wanna be a Ho?

  435. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    402. “Wobbie could care less about Stormy Daniels…”

    This is just a minor distraction for the concern troll. He will soon get back to his main focus — Roy Moore. He can’t get enough of him.

  436. Wes says:

    Before Jason claims GWB didn’t blame bad intelligence for Iraq, here’s the idiot in his own words:

    http://www.redorbit.com/news/politics/330316/bush_takes_blame_for_iraq_war_on_bad_intelligence/

  437. Wes says:

    “It is true that much of the intelligence turned out to be
    wrong. As president I am responsible for the decision to go
    into Iraq, and I am also responsible for fixing what went wrong
    by reforming our intelligence capabilities and we’re doing just
    that,” he said.

  438. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 11, 2018 at 6:28 pm
    Yeah, Robbie. The whole country gives a flying F what Trump did with Stormy a decade before he ran for president. The whole country is on the edge of their seat waiting for the details.
    By all means, impeach him. Go for it Dems. Get rid of his immoral ass at the same time you make fun of the VP for not having meals with women other than his wife.
    The MSM continues to make fools of themselves.

    – One of the big disappointments of the Trump era has been watching your reaction to it. I expected you to be one of the few who resisted caving to Trumpism.

    But once again, let me correct you. Where have I called for Trump to resign or be impeached, even over this? No where.

    If you want to say Stormy is no big deal, that’s fine. But the suburban women voters who will decide the House majority will care so excusing this behavior is not going to help in November.

    And of course, I’m sure your opinion of Stormy would be just the same if Obama had screwed her and paid her off just days before the election.

  439. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 11, 2018 at 7:23 pm
    Muh Porn Star is important. Its a top 3 issue.
    Jebot

    – You’re right. The Nunes memo is the top issue.

  440. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    March 11, 2018 at 7:38 pm
    402. “Wobbie could care less about Stormy Daniels…”
    This is just a minor distraction for the concern troll. He will soon get back to his main focus — Roy Moore. He can’t get enough of him.

    – Oh good, “Mr. But Rasmussen” is here.

    I always love it when the non Republican shows up to a Republican leaning forum to tell a conservative Republican who doesn’t agree with Trump’s populism or behavior that he’s a troll.

  441. J. Cutler says:

    I’m just misunderstood.

  442. DrKay says:

    I love this place!!!!!

  443. DrBea says:

    Me too!!!!!

  444. Tgca says:

    The women did not care about the ET Billy Bush tape since Trump won most white women vote. Clinton only won women vote because she won most of minority women who won’t vote for men st GOP anyway.

  445. Michael says:

    Any idea when the NCAA group is going up?

  446. Robbie says:

    Tgca says:
    March 11, 2018 at 7:51 pm
    The women did not care about the ET Billy Bush tape since Trump won most white women vote. Clinton only won women vote because she won most of minority women who won’t vote for men st GOP anyway.

    – Can anyone read a poll or an election result? Trump ran against one of the worst Democrat nominees we’ve ever seen and got 46.1% of the national vote. That’s terrible. He also only got 52% of the white women vote. The Access Hollywood tape absolutely hurt Trump and the Stormy Daniels story, along with the other women who probably come forward, will hurt Trump as well. There’s a story in the NYT tonight about evangelical women starting to move away from Trump. It’s hurting him and the party.

  447. Tina says:

    the worst drat presidential candidate.

    But I was here touting Lord .asehat saying she woukd win by 50.

    Jebot

  448. Tgca says:

    Clinton got 54% of women vote in 2016 compared to Obama’s 55% which was higher than Clinton due to minority voter turnout greater for Obama’s then Clinton.

    Trump and Romney both got 42% of women in the 2016/2012. …and that’s before Trump taxes and other benefits hit in 2018.

  449. Tgca says:

    Sorry. Romney got 44% and Trump 42%.

  450. Bitterlaw says:

    I set the over/under at 11 for times that Wes has cheated on Tink. I will take the under.

  451. Bitterlaw says:

    I know several women who specifically stated that the ET tape turned them against Trump so they would not vote for hi . These are Republicans who voted R on every other race in 2016. They did not vote for Hillary.

  452. Tgca says:

    But Bitter….he still won by getting basically the same support Romey did in women, and now he’ll be POTUS for 2 years with many successes that these women would not have without him as POTUS u dear a HRC presidency.

    Besides, he’s not on the ballot in 2018 so you prove my point that they may not like him bit they’re not going hold it against other GOP candidates if they’re true GOP women voters.

    Finally, making a vulgar statement about women in general and having stories come out about you from a porn star are 2 different things. Most women do not think highly of women who sell their bodies for money, especially when they do it for fame. The porn Ho is not a sympathetic figure. She’s a Ho!!!

  453. Bitterlaw says:

    Good points, TG. However, I respect the Republican women who chose to not vote for Trump as much as I respect the women who voted for Trump.

  454. mnw says:

    I used to have a gf who was an exotic dancer also, Wes. No joke. She was a Jamaican girl. That was back when Grover Cleveland was President.

  455. Tgca says:

    I agree with you that if women don’t like Trump for whatever reason, they should not be forced to support him. That should be with anyone. I lived in AZ for a bit and despise McCain so I had every right not to support him if I chose not to. But with decisions come consequences as well. If my vote caused Mac to lose and a liberal Dem won, I have no right to complain about the future ramifications of putting a liberal Dem in office. We live with our choices.

  456. Tgca says:

    I was a go-go boy in a bar a couple times back in the day and got tips? Does that count as an exotic dancer?

    I was also asked to strip for sorority party in college but declined. I also got some offers to dance in a gay club in my undies, but I respectfully declined. I did not need the money as I was established in my career then.

    Now I regret those opportunities, as it could have led to something. I coulda been someone!!! 🙁

  457. Bitterlaw says:

    TG wins gayest post of the day.

  458. mnw says:

    I think it counts.

    You know I hate to be a pedant, but the line in On The Waterfront was, “I coulda been a contendah! I coulda been somebody!”

  459. jason says:

    Amoral scumbag wanting others to be “decent” is hilarious.

  460. NYCmike says:

    Robbie, you have YUGE emotional issues! Get help!

  461. mnw says:

    Contra Wobbles, I don’t believe “suburban women” give any more of a ratz adz about Trump’s sex life a decade back than anybody else.

    Generally people vote for President based on their answer to the question, “Am I better off now, or worse off, than I was before?”

    As opposed to, “How did Trump’s affair with that blonde bimbo 10 years ago effect me?”

    See the difference, Wobbles?

  462. jason says:

    Obama had screwed her and paid her off just days before the election.”

    LOL

    Now the amoral scumbag is going to claim a Stormy story right before the election was “not political”.

    The fact is Stormy had an interview in 2011 and nothing she would say before the election or now is anything but old news.

    But Wobbie laps it up because as he already confessed, it’s just about overturning the results of the election and damaging Trump.

    Wobbie could care less about Roy Moore’s allegations or Stormy Daniels, he has zero character himself.. it’s all window dressing and its sill all about Jeb Bush.

  463. jason says:

    “to tell a conservative Republican”

    Wobbie is about as much a conservative Republican as Soccer Moron.

  464. jason says:

    Wobbie is a Jeb Bush Republican.

    If Jeb runs, he supports him.

    He trashes everybody else.

  465. mnw says:

    Trump will be in CA on Tuesday (Election Day) “ inspecting prototypes of the wall.”

    There were chants of “Build the wall!” at the Saccone/Trump rally.

  466. Walt says:

    Smoot-Hawley

    I liked Hawley.
    ‘Smooty’ (that is what we all called him back in the day) was snooty…did not like him.

    When we went out to dinner, he also often left no tip for the server.

  467. Tina says:

    I know he is coming here to ca. Moonbeam is at war.

    Moonbeam has his illegals (slaves)

    Moonbeam has Hogg and his Arm band and antifa (both replace the kkk)

    This is the modern drat party.

  468. Walt says:

    DRUDGE

    Free-falling 8.5 ton space station to crash into Michigan?

    (…the out of control Chicom space station)

  469. Tina says:

    Why is the sleepy eyes sob interviewing the treasury secretary and wasting his time by asking about the trump rallies.

    Seems like the economy, interest rates, tariffs, unemployment, the budget would take precedence.

  470. Walt says:

    Cash Cow would be posting here, but she is up to her horns working trying to try to figure out what that UFO was seen by U.S. military…

    DRUDGE
    Footage of mysterious object above ocean stuns military…

  471. Tina says:

    Fox News
    @FoxNews
    .@RepMaxineWaters Responds to Trump’s ‘Low-IQ’ Comments: ‘If Mueller Doesn’t Get Him, Stormy Daniels Will’ (link: http://bit.ly/2FEOasb) bit.ly/2FEOasb

    Rottie is the Wig.

  472. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Rocket man may release all us prisoners, hostages.

    Rocket man wants a us embassy and full diplomatic relations.

  473. MichiganGuy says:

    Walt says:
    March 11, 2018 at 10:29 pm
    DRUDGE
    Free-falling 8.5 ton space station to crash into Michigan?
    (…the out of control Chicom space station)
    ————————————————————————————————————————
    Well, if you don’t see any post from me. It’s been fun. 🙂

  474. Tina says:

    Duck and cover, mg.

    The old earthquake drill from earthquake country.

  475. lisab says:

    I was a go-go boy in a bar a couple times back in the day and got tips?
    ————————-

    did rubio ever tip you?

  476. lisab says:

    Free-falling 8.5 ton space station to crash into Michigan?
    ———————

    if it hit detroit would anyone notice?

  477. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    485. .@RepMaxineWaters Responds to Trump’s ‘Low-IQ’ Comments: ‘If Mueller Doesn’t Get Him, Stormy Daniels Will’ (link: http://bit.ly/2FEOasb) bit.ly/2FEOasb

    “Rottie is the Wig.”

    As a matter of fair play, Maxine Waters has a right to respond. Those are the type of personal attacks by Trump we can do without.

  478. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    480. “Smoot-Hawley
    I liked Hawley.
    ‘Smooty’ (that is what we all called him back in the day) was snooty…did not like him.

    When we went out to dinner, he also often left no tip for the server.”

    What do you expect from a guy with six wives and 27 children? You have to be cheap.

  479. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    454. “I always love it when the non Republican shows up to a Republican leaning forum to tell a conservative Republican who doesn’t agree with Trump’s populism or behavior that he’s a troll.”

    Robbie, since you love it so much, will say it again — you are a troll!

  480. Tim says:

    I see a lot of old familiar names in the comments. Good to see………..

  481. Cash Cow TM says:

    This moving the clock up an hour really messes up my milking schedule.

  482. Wes says:

    mnw says:
    March 11, 2018 at 8:53 pm
    I used to have a gf who was an exotic dancer also, Wes. No joke. She was a Jamaican girl. That was back when Grover Cleveland was President.

    Interesting, Mnw.

    I recently started writing a murder mystery set during the second Cleveland Administration featuring a main character who is a staunch supporter of Grover Cleveland and is involved with a Creole woman (though she is not a dancer and acts more in a Watson role in the story).

  483. DW says:

    Before you spend money on websites where supposed experts will tell you which teams will win games in the NCAA tournament bracket, I will give you better advice and its Free. The experts are thieves, and nobody knows who is going to win. Just fill out your brackets and see what happens.

  484. Wes says:

    In rather interesting news, a pair of timely retirements give Republicans a chance to win the Connecticut State Senate. It would be the first time the GOP has controlled the chamber since the Clinton Administration and give the GOP four state legislative houses in New England along with both houses in New Hampshire and the Maine State Senate.

    Maybe after decades of an overwhelming stranglehold on New England politics, Democrats are starting to lose ground there.

    We shall see.

  485. NYCmike says:

    Yo

  486. NYCmike says:

    EL

  487. NYCmike says:

    “In rather interesting news, a pair of timely retirements give Republicans a chance to win the Connecticut State Senate. It would be the first time the GOP has controlled the chamber since the Clinton Administration and give the GOP four state legislative houses in New England along with both houses in New Hampshire and the Maine State Senate.”

    -Very odd that Robbie did NOT alert us to these goings-on…….”Maggie” must not have tweeted about it.

  488. Wes says:

    Harry Enten is trying to say Republicans will lose in November despite strong jobs growth. Fair enough. He cites 1994 and 1990 to bolster his claims, in the former mentioning the 2.4% economic growth that year:

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/10/politics/job-growth-wont-save-republicans-midterms/index.html

  489. Bitterlaw says:

    Good luck, Wes. Starting novels is easy. Finishing them is harder. I have started 3 of them. 7 years later, 1 is 1/2 complete.

  490. Wes says:

    He fails to mention Republican losses in 1990 were light because the Gulf War made GHWB popular for a term. It was indeed the smallest loss of seats in the House in a midterm since 1962 when because of the Cuban Missile Crisis, Republicans gained an anemic two seats in the House.

    He also fails to mention a major economic factor in the sharp decline in Dem fortunes in 1994: the bear market that year.

    In short, Enten is not doing due diligence in his analysis and is cherrypicking data to post the best scenario possible for the Dems:

    https://www.ft.com/content/32cca748-8fe8-11e2-9239-00144feabdc0

  491. Wes says:

    I’ve already written a screenplay I’m trying to sell, Bitter. I’ve nearly completed novelizing it as well. I will be posting information about the novelization on Facebook in a few days, so stay tuned.

    Getting started on this novel was surprisingly easy. Making sure I keep the momentum in the story going and get it to the desired length without excessive padding (~300-400 pages) is the hard part, but I’m confident I can do it.

  492. Bitterlaw says:

    I have the beginning and end of one novel completed. That damn middle part is the Pro lem.

  493. Bitterlaw says:

    Problem

  494. Wes says:

    I don’t know how writing works for you, Bitter, but I set a goal of 10 pages per day and just go with feel as I write. After reaching or exceeding my goal, I go back and revise as I feel necessary and take notes so as to have a quick reference for avoiding inconsistencies later in the story.

  495. Tina says:

    Having back channels for an incoming administration is not illegal.

    If there were back channels, it further destroys the collusion narrative.

    E Prince claims he was unmasked , which would be illegal. Came from You Tube Susan Rice.

    Re George Nader, he is in bed wih the Clintons. I know the Wp would not mention that for obvious reasons,

  496. Wes says:

    I’m not sure a guy who was on a ticket that twice failed to carry Montana is whom I would have trying to get Montanans to vote for Tester:

    https://www.greatfallstribune.com/story/news/2018/03/11/biden-rallies-democrats-return-tester-senate/414466002/

  497. Tina says:

    In fact, Nader is here en piscina with Clinton, the guy to the left. On the right, appears to be Tony Podesta.

    http://www.elportal.com.do/en/bill-clinton-piscina-resort-punta-cana-acompanado-george-nader/

  498. Wes says:

    Reading that article I posted, I see two things:

    1) the cookie-cutter arguments Dems tiresomely trot out every election

    2) naked ambition on their part

    I see nothing exceptionally compelling about their electoral pitch.

  499. Wes says:

    Gravis says McCaskill leads Hawley 42-40.

    For some reason, after their blockbuster year in 2014, Gravis has seemed to have every Republican faring worse than Trump in their polls.

    I have no clue why.

  500. MichiganGuy says:

    Missouri Senate (Gravis Marketing)
    .
    McCaskill 42%
    Hawley 40%
    Undecided 18%
    .
    http://orlando-politics.com/2018/03/12/gravis-marketing-2018-poll-the-state-of-missouri/

  501. MichiganGuy says:

    Dang Wes

  502. Tina says:

    Gravis is just catching the trump hatred out there. We are doomed. Lorrd Arsehat confirmed this.

    Jebot

  503. hugh says:

    I think we will lose this race in PA. Looks matter in these types of races. It is how Evan Bayh won the secretary of state job to launch his career. The only time in my wifes life she voted for a dem. Said his opponent looked like a doofus. Anyway she wised up.

  504. Wes says:

    Looks aren’t always a decisive factor, Hugh.

    See Rick Scott v. Charlie Crist or Pat Roberts v. Greg Orman.

    Being photogenic is a help to a candidate, but rarely is it the single decisive factor in an election.

  505. Wes says:

    This is starkly in contrast to the recent poll showing Nelson an unrealistic 10-point lead over Scott.

  506. Tina says:

    That is great news in Fl, wes.

  507. Wes says:

    Surprise, suprise.

    Byron Dorgan–who chickened out of a losing reelection bid against John Hoeven–says Heidi Heitkamp will win reelection.

    Hey, Byron, if you really have your finger on the pulse of North Dakota politics, why was Hoeven leading you by 20 points before you fled the voters’ wrath eight years ago?

  508. mnw says:

    Wes

    Thanks.

    Wes & MG

    That poll is no way anything but bad news for Sky Queen. I think the new poll seems more likely to be accurate than the recent Axios poll which showed Hawley substantially ahead.

    That 18% undecided is really ominous for a longtime incumbent like McC. I interpret “indecided” to mean, “We fon’t care much for McCaskill, but we never heard of that fellow running against her.”

    Hawley says, with John Paul Jones, “I have not yet begun to fight.” He is the Invisible Man so far.

  509. Wes says:

    While Pat Morrisey made an ass of himself during the teachers’ strike, Evan Jenkins praised resolution of the dispute and mollified opposition to him among members of a powerful union:

    http://www.wboy.com/news/politics/us-rep-evan-jenkins-issues-statement-on-teacher-walkout/1013456516

  510. Wes says:

    Did you read Post 511, Mnw?

  511. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Wes, MG and mwn:
    In the MO Senate Poll, the PID is R+2, but more importantly, it shows The Donald with an eight(8) pt. victory in the Show Me State in 2016(See Question 20). I believe Trump carried MO by 19%.

    https://www.scribd.com/document/373614957/2018-Poll-Missouri-March-10-2018

  512. mnw says:

    RE: FL poll

    Never heard of that outfit before.

    They put on a REALLY TIGHT LV screen!

  513. mnw says:

    Wes

    Yes, that’s what I was saying “thanks” for posting.

  514. jason says:

    Bitter is one good looking devil and he only got 12%.

  515. jason says:

    First positive thing I have heard mnw say about Hawley, so that’s encouraging.

  516. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – My day job (which also requires work at home at night)and my only outside pursuit (coaching) prevent 10 pages a day.

    I should have used the time when I was unemployed to write but I was too shocked and miserable. While I do not believe in depression, I remain very unhappy with life.

  517. Chicon says:

    535 – Bitter, if there’s no such thing as depression, why are you so unhappy with life?

  518. mnw says:

    Wes

    The article about Hawley made me almost throw up. Typical USA Today slant.

    As I read the article, the MO Senate race is going to be mostly about Stormy whatshername and Gov. Greitens’ odd sex life.

    Incidentally, if Greitens goes, the GOP LG, who is right behind him in succession, has his own sex scandal troubles.

    Why are these MO GOP guys so frisky?

  519. Tgca says:

    Bitter

    You’re in denial. Depression is real. Medical studies can document brain and chemical activity in depressed people. Stop being so damn stubborn! If you’re mildly unhappy on a regular basis, not an issue as that happens to many. But if you’re really feeling miserable on a regular basis, it could be a chemical imbalance brought on by stress or other life-changing events.

    Try seeing someone about this as there’s no shame in getting help when it’s chronic.

    If that doesn’t work, I have another solution I often share to help folks… imagine being married to me. That should cure you instantly! 🙂

  520. mnw says:

    Speculation about two new PA-18 polls dropping today, probably: Gravis and Trafalgar, fwiw.

  521. Bitterlaw says:

    Chi – Simple. I dwell on things I can never change. I am odd. I never worry about the future but I am obsessed over the past. My wife says things like, “Even if you can’t change something, you could learn to think differently about it or deal with it.” Sure. I call that lying to myself.

  522. jason says:

    SilverHack – Enten want to go back to the glory days that propelled SilverHack to fame, the prediction that Dems will win everything and in that election they did. It was like hitting the lottery for a glorified baseball statistician.

    Silverhack was never able to replicate that scenario with any accuracy, much to the chagrin of all his left wing followers who keep expecting him to take them back to the promised land where Dems always win.

    His predictions for 2016 sucked again, while he didn’t drink the “99% chance Hillary will win” Kool-aid he failed to see a rather obvious imbalance in Hillary’s vote pattern, huge leads in CA and NY and IL giving her a 3% national lead while the heartland was much closer.

    But SilverHack is only popular if he predicts wins for Dems. If he doesn’t the moonbats attack him.

  523. Tgca says:

    We all dwell on the past to some extent and it can be unhealthy so one needs to find ways to channel that frustration. I’m an in your face Jersey guy if you get on my wrong side so rather than dwell on ways to confront folks, I found watching Dexter a therapeutic solution to my problem. I have an awful good imagination.

  524. Tina says:

    Trafalgar, one of my favorite polling firms.

  525. Bitterlaw says:

    I can just imagine the first visit to a psychiatrist.

    “I am upset about X,Y, and Z. If I see you, will X,Y, and Z be fixed?”

    “No.”

    “Thank you. Goodbye.”

  526. Chicon says:

    540 – if you believe it is bad for you to think this way, why do you do it?

  527. jason says:

    I have never seen a psychiatrist or a financial advisor.

    That is why I spend so much time here and don’t have money.

  528. jason says:

    if you believe it is bad for you to think this way, why do you do it?

    Is that like asking drug addicts if you know drugs are bad for you why do you do drugs?

  529. Bitterlaw says:

    Chi – Because I can’t stop thinking this way. I believe in brutal honesty and sel-assessment. I am a judgmental person but I am hardest on myself.

  530. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Don’t forget about all the money we stole from Dave for the creepy ads that used to run at HHR. We also made a mint on the revenue for the 1776 book ad that ran for 10 years.

  531. Chicon says:

    547 – not my belief. Bitter’s belief….

  532. Tgca says:

    Bitter

    I don’t think therapy works like that. There are steps to follow to get to a point where you find you can manage the issue. Here’s my take on it.

    1st, you have to identify the issue (e.g you’re a closet non-heterosexual),

    2nd, you’re conflicted about these feelings and don’t know how to react to it so you get yourself in a tizzy and start grasping at ways to deal with it that don’t bring resolution (e.g you start wearing cardigan sweaters and smoking jackets but to no avail),

    3rd, you have difficulty accepting you’re predictament and don’t understand those deep hidden feelings (e.g. you dont understand why you’re infatuated with Jason),

    4th, you find an outlet to explore those feelings (e.g. you schedule a business trip to San Francisco that just happens to coincide with the Folsom Street Fair),

    5th, you experiment and take baby steps without others recognizing you’re exploring change (e.g. you enter drag queen contests),

    6th, you feel embolden of this new found freedom and slowly decide to share it with others (e.g. you confide in Jason and he tells you you’re a stupid disgusting moron and not to touch him or he’ll shoot your a$$)

    7th, you are aghast at how some others react when you express yourself (e.g. you’re astounded at Jason’s insensitivity)

    8th, you look for companionship in others who can relate to your dilemma ( e.g. you meet at Starbucks to chat with Michael; he’s the guy in the salmon-colored jacket),

    9th, you find others who can listen and share similar thoughts and experience (e.g. you hang at the Monster piano bar in NYC after work),

    10th, slowly the frustration subsides as you find newfound friendships and activities to replace the frustration (e.g. singing show tunes whenever you’re feeling down).

    It’s a long process but it will help you get to a place you need to be. This is just one example of how to resolve issues, as many of us have been through it before.

  533. Chicon says:

    548 – patterns of thinking that result in negative impact on life is pretty much the definition of mood disorder (anxiety and depression).

    The science of neuroplasticity has shown that the human brain has a lifelong ability to change.

  534. Tina says:

    Mayhem Kelly

    Pooty poot has something on trump.

    Her career is in the gutter since she is no longer portrcted by Faux News.

  535. Chicon says:

    Link above is about the stages of change. Good stuff – effective for anti-smoking and addiction.

  536. Bitterlaw says:

    Tg – Stop recruiting. I am not joining your team. I am 100% straight.

    Top Gun is on tonight? Sweet.

  537. hugh says:

    522. But the rep candidate looks like cliff claven. ditch the bad mustache and have someone else dress him. THe optics in this one are bad. Plus his looks match his delivery when he speaks. How do we get these candidates

  538. Tgca says:

    You know Top Gun is considered a gay icon movie, right? Go google it. I posted about this months back. I personally don’t like Tom Cruise but whatever floats your boat.

  539. Tgca says:

    FYI. I dated one navy guy, and one who became a marine. Oorah!!! I am a big fan of supporting our military personnel.

  540. Mr.Vito says:

    “The poll shows Scott with a 50-36 lead among white voters and a 48-41 lead among Cuban Hispanic voters, while Nelson holds a dominating 72-12 lead among black voters and leads 40-32 among non-Cuban Hispanic voters.”

    If that is close to reality in November, Scott would win comfortably.

  541. Michael says:

    Gravis showing McCaskill ahead although disappointing look at where she is, 42-40 isn’t great and Trump’s approvals are back on the rise. For Missouri if Trump has a positive approval rating in the state I would bet that McCaskill loses, because Trump is campaigning against her there.

  542. mnw says:

    Me bad.

    It’s another Monmouth poll expected to drop today— possibly within the hour.

  543. mnw says:

    hugh

    He doesn’t look like Cliff Claven as much as he looks like Grandpa Munster!

  544. Bitterlaw says:

    Tg – It is a scurrilous lie. Gays tried to steal Top Gun and make it a gay movie. It is about duty and sacrifice. And a little male volleyball.

  545. Tgca says:

    566

    Disagree Bitter. Those dudes were a little too buddy buddy.

  546. Tgca says:

    Drudge has a link where CA Governator Arnold is working to sue oil companies for a defective product. He believes it’s no worse than knowing in advance you plan to off somebody.

    Oh…and he’s now a big supporter of MeToo because he thinks the ladies have been used and abused too much over the years. REALLY ARNOLD?

    I guess he would support legal recourse to a link to his movies and games that indoctrinate youngsters into a false reality that desensitizes them and increase the risk that troubled youth will act out on these products marketed to them.

    What’s next OJ to start a national movement to support abused women?

  547. Todd McCain says:

    Monmouth has Lamb up 6. Looking like this one is all done.

  548. Tgca says:

    I don’t know why but I had to edit 571 like 5 times because it would not let it through. The THOUGHT police are watching, I tell ya.

  549. Ron N says:

    567.they said they are using a New Democrat surg model. Because of Va and AL dem turn out.

  550. Chicon says:

    Tgca – post 571 is two in the future! You’re ahead of your time.

  551. mnw says:

    I agree with 567 Todd. Monmouth is a shocker. Reminds me of VA guv.

  552. dblaikie says:

    This Monmouth Poll is joke. This one quote reveals there convoluted methods to come out with a Lamb win: “Lamb holds a 51% to 45% lead over Saccone if turnout yields a Democratic surge similar to voting patterns seen in other special elections over the past year.” Talk about a big if that renders this poll to just plain silliness. Who knows, maybe after Trump’s rally there will a red surge. What a joke! I knew that there would be a bogus poll to come out for one final effort to depress Republican voters. Again if Saccone gets his vote out he will win tomorrow.

    And of course this poll with its idiotic voter model will be the lead story even on Fox News.

  553. dblaikie says:

    572 I meant their nor there

  554. Bitterlaw says:

    DB – Didn’t you also predict wins for the GOP in Va. and Alabama because the polls were wrong? I think Saccone will lose because he ran a lackluster campaign. The media did not make him lackluster. He did that on his own.

  555. dblaikie says:

    Hello Bitter. I don’t like any polls. My prediction in Va. was based on wishful thinking (how’s that for honesty). In Alabama I can only remember that I thought any claim of a blue wave in Alabama was stupid, instead it was a vote against a pervert. However I did think that Alabama was so red that even a person like Moore could pull it out. I was wrong. Frankly thank goodness I was. A Senator Moore would be a tragedy for the Republicans and for the country.

    Now please notice my language, I said Saccone would win if and I say again if he could get his vote out. That could be tough for a lackluster person to do.

    Finally we do live in a world where media bias and that includes polls don’t reveal but obscure the reality of the present.

  556. dblaikie says:

    Concerning the Monmouth nonsense I implore folks to remember that a poll is only as accurate as the voter model that forms its foundation. What happened in other states is no indication of how the vote is going to go tomorrow.

    In an effort to reveal absurdity by being absurd I am offended that Monmouth didn’t factor in the difference between Trump’s approval rating and the generic ballot during the Virginia and Alabama elections and today.

  557. NYCmike says:

    dblaikie,

    You are writing a lot of words….make a prediction one way or the other…..tomorrow is only a day away!

  558. mnw says:

    Monmouth used 3 different turnout models: The most pro-GOP model had Lamb +2. The one db refers to in post 572 yields Lamb +6.

  559. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    The Monmouth Poll has only 372 Likely Voters, a small sample, with College Educated at about 55%, the same as the RABA Poll.
    It shows Lamb which is about 1/3 the sample winning the 18-49 age group by 38 pts.(68-30) and the Alleghany part of the District by about 35%.
    Monmouth was spot-on with their Alabama models.

  560. NYCmike says:

    David Hogg for Supreme Leader!

  561. CG says:

    “David Hogg” is David “Hedgehog Report” Wissing’s “crisis actor” alter-ego, right?

  562. Tina says:

    I am so excited that Lamb wins this.

    Jebot

  563. Tina says:

    Please do not make fun of or attack Hogg.

  564. CG says:

    Saccone looks nothing like Grandpa Munster. (Ted Cruz is the only non Al Lewis politician to look like Grandpa Munster) , but Saccone does look a lot like Captain Kangaroo.

    A mustache on a white guy is almost always a vote killer.

  565. Tina says:

    House committee to end muh russian investigation.

    Now it is time for the speaker of the CoC to pull mukehead money.

  566. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt has a mustache. He was elected several times. It was only when Cash Cow came out of the barn that he lost.

  567. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt looks very distinguished with a mustache.

  568. Michael says:

    Where is our Tourney group darn it?

  569. NYCmike says:

    “Where is our Tourney group darn it?”

    -Gone with Obama!

  570. NYCmike says:

    How the ladies treating you, Michael?

  571. NYCmike says:

    Did you wise up and just take up golf?

  572. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    “Yet there’s evidence the Republican offensive might be having some effect. A data analysis completed by the RNC during the middle of last week showed Lamb leading just 48 percent to 47 percent, according to two people briefed on the numbers. The Democrat’s advantage had shrunk from 4 percentage points in the committee’s previous analysis of the race days earlier”
    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/12/pennsylvania-special-election-lamb-saccone-454728

  573. Chicon says:

    592 – Republicans leaking their own polls?

  574. Tina says:

    If doing that, we will lose to orrow.

  575. Tina says:

    Tomorrow*

  576. Chicon says:

    590 – why would they treat him any better than the rest of us?

  577. NYCmike says:

    “590 – why would they treat him any better than the rest of us?”

    -Point taken!

  578. Tina says:

    The candidate of the jebots

    Clinton on Trump Voters: They Didn’t Like African Americans Having Rights or Women Having Jobs

    https://ntknetwork.com/clinton-on-trump-voters-they-didnt-like-african-americans-having-rights-or-women-having-jobs/

  579. Bitterlaw says:

    Remember – The only poll that count is tomorrow.*

    *Kiss of Death.

  580. Tina says:

    I will be back to orrow blaming trump for the loss.

    Jebot

  581. mnw says:

    Donald Trump, JUNIOR to campaign for Saccone.

    Oh… great.

  582. dblaikie says:

    577 I like writing lots of words. Since you are demanding, I am going to say that I believe Saccone will win even though I agree with Bitter that he is a lackluster candidate while Lamb is very photogenic. My reasons for this is that I believe that except for Virginia six months ago these polling outfits underestimate Republican turnout. Second I think in a district where Trump is popular and because he is not trying to defend a pervert his presence is going to make a difference. Third I believe that in this district Trump’s tariff threat will be popular and should garner more support. There is my prediction and I hope you noticed I used lots of words.

  583. dblaikie says:

    Bitter, that is the kiss of death. Candidates say that when the only accurate polls — their internal polls — say they are going to lose.

  584. Tina says:

    Breaking.

    The Associated Press
    @AP
    BRAKING: President Trump blocks Singapore-based Broadcom’s takeover of U.S. chipmaker Qualcomm on national security grounds.

  585. Tina says:

    Muh Semi conductor merger blocked.

  586. Tina says:

    ALSO DAVID HOGG:

    -“The NRA are child murderers” (said this multiple times)
    -Attacks Trump and Rick Scott (both Republicans) but defends the Democrat Sheriff
    -Pushes only Democrat talking points
    -Attacks FedEx chairman Fred Smith for being a Republican donor.
    David Hogg
    @davidhogg111
    Can we please not debate this as Democrats and Republicans but discuss this as Americans? In the comments if you see someone you dissagree with do not attack each other talk to one another, this applies to me too. WE MUST WORK TOGETHER TO SAVE OUR FUTURE.

    More Hogg please.

  587. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/973326419286663174/photo/1

    House intelligence committee found no collusion and no preference by pooty poot for trump.

    The committee refutes the bogus charge of cia Mullah Brennan.

  588. Tina says:

    NBC News
    NBC News
    @NBCNews
    ·
    5h
    BREAKING: British PM May: “The government has concluded that it is highly likely that Russia was responsible” for nerve agent attack on Russian ex-spy.

    Resign may, useless tool, why did not your gubment stop this, if true,

  589. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – Maybe for the same reason the Feds did not stop the Parkland shooting. You can’t stop every attack. I expect that the Russian killers were in and out pretty damn fast.

  590. Tina says:

    Maybe she is too concerned about letting conservatives enter her country vs stopping the real criminal thugs?

  591. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump is not a conservative. Who do you think May is not letting into the U.K.?

  592. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    606. Breaking.
    The Associated Press @AP “BRAKING: President Trump blocks Singapore-based Broadcom’s takeover of U.S. chipmaker Qualcomm on national security grounds.”

    Going to be a lot of happy people in San Diego tonight. And in case anyone thinks Trump act was partisan; the Jacobs family who run Qualcomm are big Democratic donors, and put on events for Hillary Clinton. He is also a major philanthropist in San Diego, and has donated well over a 100 million dollars to various charities.

  593. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    614. Ironically, as I was walking a little over an hour ago, I ran into an woman I knew, who was walking with her bike. She is sort of the older liberal “hipster” type. She told me she was on the way to a demonstration against Trump.

  594. Tina says:

    But, but muh semiconductor

    Jebot

  595. Tina says:

    May is a weak politician.

    No point in defending her.

    Btw, conservatives were detained trying to enter england the other day, it is in the news. Maybe you should look it up bl.

  596. mnw says:

    Prediction time?

    Polls open in about 11 hrs, I think.

    Here’s mine: Lamb +3.

  597. Bitterlaw says:

    San Diego – I think my brother-in-law is moving to SD in June or July. I wonder how he will fit in. He is retiring after 30 years in the Army. That would seem to be a good thing in that area. However, he actually likes France and has dual citizenship (his mother was French).

  598. Bitterlaw says:

    Lamb 53
    Saccone 47

    Sorry.

  599. Tina says:

    If they are buying a home in san diego, it is ouch city. Be prpeared to part with at least $600000.

  600. Tina says:

    Maybe a little less.

    Of course, if they come tomsf, i can hook them up with a 2/1 sfh, detached, 1200square feet, 4300sq ft lot,

    $1.4 million.

  601. Tina says:

    Now, it is up to the other congressional russian hoax committees to end,

    And then the rs to defund mulehead.

  602. Bitterlaw says:

    They are moving to Coronado.

  603. Tina says:

    No way can clapper stay on with cnn.

    Nick Short ??
    @PoliticalShort
    Evidence of the leak was collected during the House Intelligence Committee’s Russia investigation. The committee found evidence that Clapper contacted CNN shortly before this story (link: https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/10/politics/donald-trump-intelligence-report-russia/) cnn.com/2017/01/10/pol… was published on 1/10/17 by Tapper, Evan Perez, & Jim Sciutto.
    Show

  604. Tina says:

    Coronado, ouch, median hime price $1.6 m illion.

  605. Tina says:

    Very beautiful. You hace no excuse not to come this way.

  606. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – They were very smart. Every time he was stationed somewhere in the US, they purchased a home with low interest VA loans. They then rented them out to other military families when they moved. I think they owned 5 at one time (Virginia, Texas, and Kansas).

  607. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – I can always find a reason to not visit California.

  608. mnw says:

    Tina

    R u a realtor?

  609. Tina says:

    No, investor, mnw. I soent my gubment $$$ well.

  610. Tina says:

    Bl, I understand.

  611. Tina says:

    Spent*

  612. Tina says:

    Btw, i recommended to many veterans who returned to gubment work to buy their hime with a va loan. Incredibly low rates.

  613. Tina says:

    House Intel Committee finds NO evidence of collusion between the Trump Campaign and Russia.

    #Mueller will still ruin innocent people’s lives as a matter of political retribution.

    #ObamaGate
    4:15 PM · Mar 12, 2018

    Aided by swampstein.

  614. Bitterlaw says:

    I can find a reason to not visit 48 states. Nothing personal, Tina.

  615. Michael says:

    NT

  616. Bitterlaw says:

    I voted for Arlen Specter over this flaming lib.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/news/nation/20180310_ap_5873a10a1d874cb887023d59222284f1.html

    Even knowing now that Specter would switch parties, I would still do it against Hoeffel.

  617. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    622. “If they are buying a home in san diego, it is ouch city. Be prpeared to part with at least $600000.”

    Tina, that would be the price of a condo. Nice homes are over a million dollars. If you want near the beach it is even higher. Coronado is surrounding by water, and very expensive. Also has a lot of sailors and SEALS.

  618. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    620 “San Diego – I think my brother-in-law is moving to SD in June or July. I wonder how he will fit in. He is retiring after 30 years in the Army.”

    Bitter, San Diego is pretty laid back, so he will fit in. However, it is a Navy and Marine town. Coronado is a Navy town, where the SEALS are based. So an army guy is a bit out of place.

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