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Hogan Dominates Dems in MD

About the only positive Republicans can possibly take out of last night is how badly Monmouth University botched their final poll. Monmouth claimed the Democrat Conor Lamb would win by 6% and get at least 51% of the vote. Regardless of the final outcome, it is safe to say Monmouth’s poll was heavily skewed to the left.

We have new polling for my home state of Maryland from some outfit I have never heard of, Burton Research and Strategies, as reported by Maryland Matters showing Larry Hogan with an overwhelming lead over the top two Democrats.

GOVERNOR – MARYLAND (Burton)
Larry Hogan (R-inc) 54%
Rushern Baker (D) 29%

Larry Hogan (R-inc) 57%
Kevin Kamenetz (D) 26%

This poll was done March 4-11 among likely voters. the article indicates this is a “Republican polling” company, so take that into account.

Posted by Dave at 5:05 am
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1,121 Responses to “Hogan Dominates Dems in MD”

  1. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    So Saccone(R) lost by 580 votes last night in the PA CD-18 contest.
    Am I allowed to blame the Libertarian candidate for the loss since the Spoiler garnered about 1,400 votes? (A repeat of Kelly Ayotte’s(R) 2016 Senate loss in NH.)

  2. Tim says:

    You can blame anybody that you wish to. It’s a free Country.

  3. Messy57 says:

    Sally Fourth!!!!

  4. Messy57 says:

    The simple fact is, is that it wss a gerrymandered, deep red district and if a sane Republican had won the presidency, the Republican here would have won by 30 points.

    If you go over the congressional results from ’16, there’s about a hundred seats that had margins below 10%, and those might be all gone.

    The Republican GotV operation did a good job this time, but not good enough. November could be a blowout.

  5. MichiganGuy says:

    Messy, as usual you don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. Lamb himself said, this has nothing to do with Trump. Lamb ran as a conservative who would work with Trump.
    .
    Listen to what the voters said, ” Jerry Rosenfeld said he voted for Lamb because he was not Saccone. Rosenfeld, 84, of Mt. Lebanon said he is glad the television ads will end. I thought the Republican ads were terrible,” Rosenfeld said. “I don’t watch much TV, but the little I did was all ads.”
    .
    Paul Uhrinek, 65, of Unity said the election can’t end soon enough for him.

    “I’m a Republican, but I’m voting for Conor Lamb,” he said. “Everybody I know has hated this campaign. It was bad on both sides, but it was worse on the Republican side. I feel I was treated as an idiot, and I’m very insulted by it.”

    “I thought it was pretty dirty, very negative,” said Mercedes Regola, 87, of Unity. She was offended that Saccone never disavowed the Republican attack ads and said she voted for Lamb.
    .
    http://triblive.com/local/allegheny/13412984-74/after-voting-conor-lamb-says-hes-confident-hard-work-paid-off

  6. MichiganGuy says:

    Dave, try to keep up. I posted that poll 2 threads ago. March 13, 2018 at 5:23 pm. 😛

  7. Bitterlaw says:

    Messy thinks the GOP could lose 100 seats? Got it.

  8. MichiganGuy says:

    A plurality of voters support President Donald Trump’s plan to impose 25 percent tariffs on steel imports and 10 percent on aluminum imports.
    .
    Support 41%
    Oppose 35%
    Not sure 24%
    .
    Morning Consult Poll
    .
    https://morningconsult.com/2018/03/14/plurality-of-voters-back-tariffs-while-majority-foresee-trade-war-as-a-result/

  9. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    MG and Bitter:
    A new week and a new meme. Last week after the GOP kicked arse in Texas, the Conventional Wisdom was that Republicans would hold the House.
    This week, the CW is that the Democrats would gain a hundred seats because a Blue Fraud won a CD in PA by a few hundred votes.
    Messy is a cretin. Pity her!

  10. Bitterlaw says:

    Sheeple – I think that a few things became clear last night:

    1. Candidates matter.

    2. Dems came out to vote.

    3. The GOP is going to have to fight hard for every seat even in supposedly safe areas.

  11. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #11- Bitterlaw
    Agreed

  12. MichiganGuy says:

    Trafalgar Group came pretty close with:
    .
    Saccone 51%
    Lamb 49%
    .
    They didn’t even do a poll ❗ ❗ ❗
    .
    https://twitter.com/RobertCahaly/status/973695945358692352

  13. MichiganGuy says:

    Or perhaps they did and didn’t release it.

  14. Phil says:

    Lamb won. He now can relax and be who he really is. There are no moderates left in the Democratic Party. Just leftists. Lamb is a younger Joe Manchin who is he is the master at playing the game. Who Lamb is will be apparent soon enough. It will especially be apparent when Lamb moves to the new district which will be eight points more Democratic. He can drop the act completely. Will no doubt be a real relief to him.

    Last night? Just another vote for Nancy for Speaker. Nothing more nothing less. I look forward to the Maxine Waters and company types chairing the House committees for the next two years. Ought to be a hoot.

  15. Phil says:

    Oh, I see Lamb wasted no time appearing on morning Joe. Of course. He said he wants Pelosi to step down but also Ryan to step down as well because, you see, it’s not about Pelosi’s ideology. It’s about “new leadership on both sides”. LOL

    Ha. His “transformation” begins – and it took what, six hours?

  16. MichiganGuy says:

    Cherokee genealogist casts doubt on Elizabeth Warren’s story of parents’ elopement.
    .
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/14/cherokee-genealogist-casts-doubt-on-elizabeth-warrens-story-parents-elopement.html
    😮 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮 😮

  17. Phil says:

    Not worried about Elizabeth Warren. Warren isn’t going to be the next President. Kamala Harris is. She’s a lot younger and every bit as loony..

    Make America California.

  18. Tina says:

    Blame saccone

  19. Tina says:

    Well i prdicted saccone would lose. He made no outreach to coal workers,

    But muh temperment.

  20. Messy57 says:

    16. Wouldn’t YOU?

    As to Pelosi, she should have stepped down back in ’10. She should go now because it’s past her sell-by date.

    the response of “ha hah” to my saying that the GOP could lose up to a hundred seats is partly why they could lose up to a hundred seats.

  21. Tina says:

    The registration numbers do not indicate a deep red district.

    The ds hold the advantage by 50000,

    Trump won by appealing to ds in that district.

    Suckcone failed.

  22. Tina says:

    As far as the ca protests yesterday against trumps cisit, they did not largely materialize. They were there, however, but their numbers were dwarfed by the pro trump protesters,

    Maybe the drat protesters were at work, or feared being arrested because of not being properly documented.

  23. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart
    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    29m
    2) So I don’t trust Lamb any more than I trust Jones to be “moderate.” They will make good speeches, but always—ALWAYS—vote with the DemoKKKrats unless their vote isn’t needed (see the tax vote where a couple of Ds were allowed to vote for it, cuz SpewMore knew it would pass)

  24. Tina says:

    Mslsd has declared her thighness to be the better christian, jebots concur,

    In other news, her thighness fell teice and she lost two shoes.

  25. Phil says:

    21

    A hundred seats? Really? Even the loons over at Daily Kos would fall down laughing at that one.

  26. Robbie says:

    The alarms bells have been ringing like an air raid siren for the last year that Republicans are in big trouble, but no one wanted to listen. In special election after special election, races that were won by 20 points in 2016 were being won by 5 points or so just four months later. We saw that in KS, MT, GA, and SC. And then in statewide races in Virginia, Republicans were smashed into a million pieces. Oh, and then there’s good ole Roy.

    If it wasn’t clear to some before, it should be clear to all now. There is a terrible reckoning coming for Republicans in 2018. The House majority is almost certainly lost and probably by a sizable margin. And on the current path, it’s not impossible to envision Democrats winning control of the Senate. It’s still very unlikely, but it was also very unlikely three weeks ago a Democrat would win a R+11 district Trump won by 20 points in 2016.

    There is a wave coming in November and it’s probably going to be a tsunami. The national mood is strongly against Trump and that’s not going to change because it’s clear he’s unwilling to change. Despite a roaring economy and all of the benefits that come with it, Trump’s approval rating is just 40% or so in RCP. On top of that, every day we have stories of firings and resignations from his staff. It’s a hot mess.

    The cake is baked on Trump for 2018. It’s highly unlikely he’s going to become more popular in a way that will help the party. Right now, he’s a millstone around the necks of Republicans all over the country and that is precisely what you would expect when an incumbent party’s president is so unpopular.

    Remember this. In 2010, Obama had a RCP approval rating of 45% of election day when Republicans won more than 60 House seats. On election day 2014 when Republicans reached 249 House seats, Obama’s approval rating was 42% in RCP. Trump’s RCP average is lower than both.

  27. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 14, 2018 at 11:07 am
    21
    A hundred seats? Really? Even the loons over at Daily Kos would fall down laughing at that one.

    – I have thought a 40 seat loss was likely since late last year. And after last night, I would say 40 to 50 might be a better range. That said, a 100 seat loss is over the top.

    However, there are 114 House seats held by Republicans that are less Republican than the seat they lost last night. For instance, Paul Ryan’s seat is just R+4. Could he be the next Tom Foley, if he runs for re-elections? He hasn’t filed yet.

    There is going to be a massive backlash against Trump’s behavior. And with eight months to go, things can get a lot worse.

  28. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    March 14, 2018 at 9:37 am
    Sheeple – I think that a few things became clear last night:
    1. Candidates matter.
    2. Dems came out to vote.
    3. The GOP is going to have to fight hard for every seat even in supposedly safe areas.

    – I would push back on the idea that Saccone was a bad candidate, but lets look at it this way.

    Whether it was KS, MT, GA, SC, or AL senate, I was told in each instance the Republican was a bad candidate. Ok, maybe that’s the case.

    But which is more likely? That all of the candidates were bad candidates, or that something else was at work, namely Trump’s high unpopularity?

  29. Michael says:

    Last night sucked.

  30. Michael says:

    Hogan looks like a “Likely R” hold right now. The state senate elections should be heavily invested in for the final term then.

  31. Robbie says:

    I think last night’s result significantly raises the prospects of impeachment for Trump in 2019. If Democrats do impeach Trump in 2019 (not a certainty at all), that raises some serious questions about 2020. Namely, will Trump run again? Would the party re-nominate an impeached, but unremoved president? Would Trump’s impeachment produce a credible (not Kasich) primary challenger or two?

    My guess is Trump would absolutely run again as an impeached president for two reasons. First, he wouldn’t want to be seen as a quitter and would wear impeachment as a badge of honor. Second, FoxNews and the conservative radio hosts would rally around and aggrieved Trump. And when it comes to base voters, the power of FoxNews and talk radio can’t be underestimated. They played a key role in legitimizing his early campaign in 2015.

    I’m not sure who, other than Romney, would have the profile to challenge a sitting president in a primary and have legitimate shot of winning, but I would have to guess the thought of a 2020 run is at least being discussed theoretically now.

    Of course, if Republicans hold the House, then this topic is moot.

  32. Phil says:

    40 to 50 seats? Uh, no. Democrats need 22. It’s in the 20 to 30 range. 40 to 50 seats? You might want to take a look at the 2016 election night state by state district returns and the margins in those districts. Look at it and get back to us on that fifty seat prediction.

    BTW, as long as Pelosi is the speaker in waiting it’s the Republican insurance policy against the forty to fifty seat stuff you crave.

    Your scenario would require seats like Texas 8th and Tx 32 to flip. Not happening. Trust me. I know my state and I’m familiar with those districts. If Pelosi promises to bow out (she won’t. Thanks, Nancy) and the economy goes south those districts become possibilities. Two big ifs that aren’t the case now.

  33. Phil says:

    I do agree with you regarding Trump being impeached by the House and absolutely running again in spite of it. That would be vintage Trump. just the way he rolls. Kasich is a dead man walking, however.

  34. Chicon says:

    About last night….

    Why did the Lamb feel he had to run as a moderate? I thought this was a progressive reaction to Trump?

    Will the Dems run similar campaigns in enough purple districts in November?

  35. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 14, 2018 at 11:55 am
    40 to 50 seats? Uh, no. Democrats need 22. It’s in the 20 to 30 range. 40 to 50 seats? You might want to take a look at the 2016 election night state by state district returns and the margins in those districts. Look at it and get back to us on that fifty seat prediction.

    – Phil, it’s going to be a wave. In a wave, all bets are off. People who shouldn’t be in danger lose. That happened in 2006 to lots of Republicans and it happened in 2010 to lots of Democrats. Look at the 2004 state by state margins and then look at what happened in 2006. The same applies to 2008 and then 2010.

    Phil says:
    March 14, 2018 at 11:55 am
    BTW, as long as Pelosi is the speaker in waiting it’s the Republican insurance policy against the forty to fifty seat stuff you crave.

    – And just for the record, I don not crave a 40-50 seat loss. Losing control of the House is the last thing I want. With another Republican president, this would have been a period of nirvana for Republicans. Instead, here we are

    I’m not going to pull the wool over my own eyes when making predictions simply because I don’t want the prediction to happen.

  36. Phil says:

    35

    They’ll try but pulling it off with Pelosi tied around their neck is a slight complication.

  37. Chicon says:

    36 – With another Republican president, this would have been a period of nirvana for Republicans.

    Any evidence to support this claim? Such as previous 1st term situations not affected by 9/11.

  38. Phil says:

    Robbie, I’m not saying no 50 seat loss just because I don’t want it to happen. I’m saying it because of the 2016 district by district numbers. You don’t flip seats that a Republican incumbent won with 58 to 60 percent of the vote – those seats were blow outs for a reason. That’s what it would take. A win is a win even if you hold the seat with 54 or 55 percent instead of 60 percent. I’m just looking at the district by district math.

  39. janz says:

    What about the absentee ballots still out there in the PA race? Have they already been included in tally? If not there is still a slim chance the outcome could change – a very slim chance.

    As for Sarccone, he did better than I thought he would, considering all his shortfalls. Pitted against a photogenic, young, accomplished, “moderated,” lamb, Sarccone seemed like a political shadow.

  40. Phil says:

    Katie Perry has tweeted her support for the student walkout.

    Shocker.

    Hey, Katie. Everyone cares what you think about as much as they did on election night.

  41. Phil says:

    Absentee ballots have been counted.

  42. MichiganGuy says:

    RRH:

    NRCC Spokesperson Matt Gorman tells NBC News about PA-18:
    .
    “We are absolutely not conceding. We are waiting for provisional ballots on Friday. And we are not ruling out a recount or other legal actions.”

    https://twitter.com/AlexNBCNews/status/973919498771271680

    There are 3 instances GOP are weighing to challenge in court and most likely will:
    Reports of miscalibrations of voting machines in Allegheny Co;

    Report GOP was kicked out of room counting absentee ballots in Allegheny Co for 90mins;

    Reports of mistakes on PA SOS website

    https://twitter.com/AlexNBCNews/status/973920285698220032

  43. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:08 pm
    36 – With another Republican president, this would have been a period of nirvana for Republicans.
    Any evidence to support this claim? Such as previous 1st term situations not affected by 9/11.

    – Any evidence to suggest Rubio, Kasich, Cruz, Jeb, or Christie would be rage tweeting, hindered by a Russia investigation, or suffering from a revolving door of staff? Every would Trump has suffered these last 14 months has been self inflicted. None of the other candidates would have operated in the way he has.

  44. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:11 pm
    Robbie, I’m not saying no 50 seat loss just because I don’t want it to happen. I’m saying it because of the 2016 district by district numbers. You don’t flip seats that a Republican incumbent won with 58 to 60 percent of the vote – those seats were blow outs for a reason. That’s what it would take. A win is a win even if you hold the seat with 54 or 55 percent instead of 60 percent. I’m just looking at the district by district math.

    – Respectfully, Phil, there is plenty of evidence to show that seats won with great ease in one cycle suddenly become endangered in the next cycle, especially when the national mood swings against that party.

    In 2004, Ann Northup won her Louisville district with 60% of the vote. In 2006, she lost to an underfunded Democrat.

  45. MichiganGuy says:

    #NC09 Republican Primary:
    .
    Pittenger 52% (+32)
    Harris 20%
    Goins 7%
    Undecided 21%
    .
    Civitas Poll 3/9-13

    https://www.nccivitas.org/2018/civitas-poll-pittenger-leads-nc-9-gop-primary-poll-finds-large-support-nra-metal-tariffs/

  46. Robbie says:

    For those who don’t know who Cory Bliss is, he is widely considered to be the very best GOTV operative Republicans have. He has been sounding this alarm bell for quite a while as well.

    Katie Glueck
    ?@katieglueck

    Corry Bliss of Congressional Leadership Fund: “Regardless of the final results, this is a very challenging environment for Republicans. We need serious candidates to run serious campaigns in order to be successful this November.”

  47. GPO says:

    Robbie says:

    March 14, 2018 at 12:39 pm

    For those who don’t know who Cory Bliss is, he is widely considered to be the very best GOTV operative Republicans have. He has been sounding this alarm bell for quite a while as well.

    Katie Glueck
    ?@katieglueck

    Corry Bliss of Congressional Leadership Fund: “Regardless of the final results, this is a very challenging environment for Republicans. We need serious candidates to run serious campaigns in order to be successful this November.”

    I don’t think anyone here disputes that

  48. Robbie says:

    GPO says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    I don’t think anyone here disputes that

    – Then you haven’t been reading this forum for most of the last year.

    Until recently, there was a vocal segment here who said there was no way the House could be lost because of gerrymandering. There were also those who claimed that Trump would be a plus for the party.

    I think most have concluded this will be a rough year for the party, but I also think many are not yet ready to accept that a wave is coming.

  49. Tina says:

    Yeah. The rs are soundi g like losahs

  50. Tina says:

    Kudlow to be new economic advisor. Replacing Cohn,

    Not a big fan.

  51. Tina says:

    Trump at 47 percent in ras.

  52. Tina says:

    Dems have had enough of her thighness.

    Watch out for the shoes.

  53. NYCmike says:

    Stop hyperventilating.

    Once again: normal loss of seats for the Presidents party in their first term is over 20. Robbie keeps blaming Trump. History says its normal…..ok, maybe Robbie is saying Trump is normal? Heh…..

    Also, the campaign in November will have almost 470 races. The media will not be able to give each one of those races the same attention as these special elections.

    Trump definitely deserves some blame, as do the candidates who have lost (as well as the ones who won). I expect the House to be very close next November. I hope the Democrats keep Pelosi as their leader thru the elections. She is a good person to run against.

    I also hope that Republicans run better campaigns, as their are LOTS of material from the Democrats which should make Republican voters, as well as Independent voters, get out and vote for the Republican.

  54. Tina says:

    I am so happy. We can have impeachment.

    Jebot.

  55. Tina says:

    Kudlow is a bush bot.

    I have indigestion.

  56. Robbie says:

    The cable news presidency rolls onward.

    Larry Kudlow to run NEC.

    John Bolton likely to become National Security Advisor.

    If you appear on cable news regularly, you too have a chance to work for Trump.

  57. NYCmike says:

    That India/Hillary/steps issue is very weird……first off, WTF is her problem, and why would she keep it such a secret? Second, can’t she find some helpers that look like they actually care about her, and her problem? She is always being assisted by people who look like they want to let her go…I almost feel sorry for the wench…..not enough to vote for her, or even to NOT VOTE for her opponent….

  58. NYCmike says:

    “The cable news presidency rolls onward.”

    -As long as they don’t come from CNN and/or MSNBC, we should be OK.

  59. Phil says:

    Robbie, you can cite a few examples of the Kentucky seat over the yrs but to get to 50 you would need dozens in one cycle.

    Right now Pelosi and the good economy make that impossible.

    Right now I have Dems picking up the following:

    Pa. – 3 more after last night (the Pa court coup)
    NY – 2
    NJ – 2
    Fla – 2
    Ca – 4 state is a nuts
    Wa – 1
    Az – 1 (McSalley’s seat)
    Tx – 1 (23rd)
    Ill – 1
    Neb – 1
    Mich- 1

    That is giving Dems a clean sweep of every Republican reasonably gettable seats. There are a few more that could fall. Handel’s suburban Atlanta district, Coffman’s western Colorado seat (he won by double digits last time)

    In my list I have given Dems every tossup district – one in NY, Ill 12th, the Omaha seat in Nebraska, one in Michigan, one of the two in NY, one in Florida and two in California.

    in addition there are three or four Democratic seats that are not slam dunks. Two rural seats in Minn that Dems barely held with one of those now and open plus one in NH.

    Here’s another problem for the 40 to 50 scenario. Where Dem rage against Trump is the most heated – they already have ALL the seats anyway – all 11 in Massachusetts, all six in Connecticut, both Hawaii seats, Rhode Island, the vast majority of the seats in California, all but the one seat in gerrymandered Maryland. They run out of seats to flip.

    It’s simply math.

  60. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 14, 2018 at 12:57 pm
    Stop hyperventilating.
    Once again: normal loss of seats for the Presidents party in their first term is over 20. Robbie keeps blaming Trump. History says its normal…..ok, maybe Robbie is saying Trump is normal? Heh…..
    Also, the campaign in November will have almost 470 races. The media will not be able to give each one of those races the same attention as these special elections.
    Trump definitely deserves some blame, as do the candidates who have lost (as well as the ones who won). I expect the House to be very close next November. I hope the Democrats keep Pelosi as their leader thru the elections. She is a good person to run against.
    I also hope that Republicans run better campaigns, as their are LOTS of material from the Democrats which should make Republican voters, as well as Independent voters, get out and vote for the Republican.

    – I’m glad to see HHR’s resident ostrich is here to play the role of Leslie Nielson in Naked Gun standing in front of the exploding fireworks store saying “nothing to see here”.

    Again, there is a wave building, maybe a 2010 style tsunami. The fact there will be 435 House races doesn’t lessen the blow. In fact, it probably hurts Republicans even more because there will be too many holes to plug and not nearly enough money to go around. Not that money really matters in waves, though.

    Eventually, we’ll read about triage efforts here and there, but the story will be the same. Voters have an extremely low opinion of Trump’s behavior as president and they are going to take it out on Republicans, especially in the suburbs, just as voters took out their frustrations with Obama on Democrat House and Senate members.

    Of course, losses in a midterm are a fact of political life, but not the type of losses we’re expecting and especially when we consider the state of the economy. With any other Republican as president, I think we’ be talking about a +5 to -5 seat swing. Trump is magnifying the problem and he has totally blotted out the stellar economy.

  61. Phil says:

    Also running on repealing a middle class tax cut and banning semi automatic guns isn’t going to help expand the map into deep red districts Trump or no Trump. it’s stupid but Democrats can’t help themselves.

  62. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:06 pm
    Robbie, you can cite a few examples of the Kentucky seat over the yrs but to get to 50 you would need dozens in one cycle.
    Right now Pelosi and the good economy make that impossible.

    – I’m not predicting 50 seats. I think 40 seats is most likely right now.

    Second, the voters outside the base aren’t going to care about Pelosi. Trump will be the number one factor.

    Again though, this is shaping up to be a wave. All bets are off when that happens.

  63. Phil says:

    Not about the base not liking Pelosi although she does drive up Republican turnout and mid term elections are much more base elections than presidential ones.

    Voters outside the base DO care about Pelosi. They don’t like her. She hurts with independents especially R leaning independents and to get to 40 or 50 seats Dems would need those.

    She hurts. Don’t kid yourself.

  64. NYCmike says:

    2010 – voters don’t like Obamacare and a more intrusive federal government.

    2018 – voters don’t like their extra money and more job opportunities, and businesses don’t like a healthier economy with more chances for profit.

    Robbie,

    Is this your theory?

  65. Phil says:

    Trump isn’t popular ovrall but in rural and most suburban districts you can’t get elected by pushing a Pelosi agenda and railing against Trump. You would need a certain number of those seats to get to anything close to 50.

    I am glad you walked your prediction back to 40, BTW. That’s more something we can legitimately argue over.

    In 2010, when Rs picked up 62 seats we had people on here predicting 85 seats. It was insane. At some point you run out of flipable seats on both sides. You just do.

  66. NYCmike says:

    https://bearingarms.com/tom-k/2018/03/13/former-gop-donor-form-gun-control-group/

    -“Al Hoffman Jr., a real estate developer who served as Ambassador to Portugal under George W. Bush”

    JEB!2016 not only had his own inept self to deal with, he also had to deal with the legacy of his brother and father as squishes.

  67. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – The gun issue will help Dems in suburban districts. Will it hurt more than taxes help the GOP? I don’t know.

  68. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Don’t see a Democrat running almost as a fake Republican, taking conservative positions, supporting gun rights, and attacking Pelosi as evidence of a future Democratic wave. If anything it is a bit of a con job.

    Is the Democratic Party going to adopt Lamb’s positions in Congress, or when it campaigns for its candidates in November? Its say something that Lamb had to denounce the leader of the House Democratic Party as an election strategy. That is not exactly a ringing endorsement of the national Democratic leadership. Some wave — Pelosi is going to get wet.

    This was a conservative, blue collar Democratic district, and it elected someone who campaigned as a such. In 2020, if its Trump versus a Pelosi Democrat, Trump will carry the district again.

  69. Bitterlaw says:

    This morning, my daughter’s high school had an anti-gun violence walkout. My only concern was that it was announced and planned 2 weeks ago. They even announced the time and place where students would gather. I thought that was an unnecessary risk. Fortunately, there were no incidents.

    I have to admit that when my daughter got out of my car and walked towards school, It hit me that maybe that would be the last time I saw her alive. It did not help me feel better when she stopped and said, “I love you, Dad.” Knowing that I can’t protect her from the world and that the carnage will strike again somewhere was a terrible feeling.

  70. Bitterlaw says:

    SDC – Never underestimate the Democrats. If they have to run in some districts by sporting guns and opposing abortion, they will do it. They will then “evolve” by Election Day.

  71. Bitterlaw says:

    I mean Inauguration Day.

  72. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    We are going to have a Democratic blue wave election in November — and how are we going to do it, by denouncing the Democratic House speaker and the Democratic Party’s liberal policies.

  73. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    72. “SDC – Never underestimate the Democrats. If they have to run in some districts by sporting guns and opposing abortion, they will do it. They will then “evolve” by Election Day.”

    Agree. Of course the Republicans have done the same thing also.

    I also go along with the first point of your election analysis. Candidate recruitment is critical. If the Republicans keep nominating loons like Moore, or drab individuals like Saccone, they are going to lose a lot of seats.

  74. Phil says:

    It will help in suburban districts like the ones around Philly. They are gone anyway and I have already accounted for those districts and waved bye to them. It won’t help in suburban districts in red states much like the ones here surrounding Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio. To get to 40 seats Democrats would need to win those. Again, it’s just math. There are only so many gettable seats. Making gun control big issue down here would be a dream come true.

    Beto O’Rourke running against Cruz is pushing that down here big time. He will be slaughtered in suburban counties like Denton, Collin, and Montgomery Counties. Wendy Davis numbers on election day. Book it.

  75. Phil says:

    …and yes, Democrats will pull the Joe Manchin number when they can get away with it. Problem is that it is a whole lot harder with Nancy tied around your neck. Plus I don’t see Democratic suburban candidates denouncing Pelosi ala Lamb. They can’t afford to.

  76. Tina says:

    Both kudlow and bolton are bad picks imo.

  77. Tina says:

    Re,eber, the drats in 2006 ran as pro border enforcememt.

    They got to the right of Mute 43and won a lot of races.

  78. Tina says:

    Iraq also was the main issue in 2006.

    But open borders bush hurt too.

  79. Tina says:

    So, bl is right, never underestimate the liars and thugs.

  80. Tina says:

    Nyc,

    Please do not attack hillarys health, she had every right to hide it.

  81. Tina says:

    Lamb got to the right of suckcone on several issues, in a drat district, reg. #s, pkus 50k.

  82. Phil says:

    Love Hillary’s latest remarks.

    The woman continues to have the worst political instincts of any politician in history.

  83. Tina says:

    Lamb did not win by running as piglosi or piglosi light.

    We all know he will legislate that way.

  84. Tina says:

    Also, it is true had trump not intervened in pa 18,suckcone would have lost by 6.

    He closed it to less than 1.

  85. Phil says:

    85

    Yep. Tina hit it. Lamb is Heath Schuler II – a younger Joe Manchin.

  86. Tom says:

    Connor Lamb provided the roadmap. Lie through your teeth, co-opt the Republican policy agenda, look good, and run against a lackluster opponent. Trump hatred will do the rest. Of course then you can run amok for two years after you take control of the house. If Trump would just stop the tweeting this could still turn around OK.

  87. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    76. “It will help in suburban districts like the ones around Philly. They are gone anyway and I have already accounted for those districts and waved bye to them. It won’t help in suburban districts in red states much like the ones here surrounding Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio.”

    Agree, it would hurt in a lot of suburban areas in Western states as well. Many Democrats would vote for a Republican candidate against a Democrat advocating gun control.

  88. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    88. “If Trump would just stop the tweeting this could still turn around OK.”

    Trumps remains his own worst enemy. Firing Tillerson and others the way he did recently makes his administration look like a Mad Hatter Party.

    People like his economic policies, and lot of other things about him. But the drama gets old.

  89. Hugh says:

    91. Totally agree he is a fatally flawed person. With greY policies

  90. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Mccabe faces possible termination.

  91. Tina says:

    He did not act accordinly in firing tillerson via tweet,

  92. Tina says:

    Fox News
    ?
    @FoxNews
    Sources: AG Sessions is considering firing former @FBI Deputy Director McCabe before his retirement; that would mean he would not get his pension.
    10:55 AM – Mar 14, 2018

    What about ohr, the mistress, and pete the cheat?

  93. Tina says:

    Benjamin Weingarten
    @bhweingarten
    The apparent disparate treatment of James Clapper and Mike Flynn illustrates a pernicious potential double standard in our justice system (link: http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/14/clapper-and-flynn-is-the-doj-adhering-to-a-perjury-double-standard/) thefederalist.com/2018/03/14/cla…

  94. Messy57 says:

    94. That is mean. the fellow was a patriot who gave 21 years and more for the FBI, serving his country.

    It’s gratuitous in the extreme.

  95. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:20 pm
    Also running on repealing a middle class tax cut and banning semi automatic guns isn’t going to help expand the map into deep red districts Trump or no Trump. it’s stupid but Democrats can’t help themselves.

    – The problem is midterms are rarely run on issues. By in large, they are referendums on the incumbent president. That’s why his approval rating matters so much.

    Having said that, running on the tax cuts, destruction of ISIS, and judges is a great campaign plan. But what’s the evidence Trump really wants to talk about that? In his pep rally Saturday, he talked about a slew of weird things that have nothing to do with the three topics I mentioned.

  96. Phil says:

    “That is mean”

    McCabe played mean. I didn’t see your side complaining.

  97. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 14, 2018 at 1:35 pm
    2010 – voters don’t like Obamacare and a more intrusive federal government.
    2018 – voters don’t like their extra money and more job opportunities, and businesses don’t like a healthier economy with more chances for profit.
    Robbie,
    Is this your theory?

    – Midterms are, by in large, a referendum on the sitting president. In 2010, Obama was unpopular and the voters took it out on his party.

    In 2018, Trump is even more unpopular and the voters are going to take it out on his party.

    If Trump was conducting himself in a more traditional and, dare I say, presidential fashion, he’d have an approval rating north or 50% with this economy.

    Instead, Trump is reviled by Democrats and, more importantly, strongly disliked by Independents. And as we know, it’s the Independents who are the majority makers.

    In midterms, policy usually doesn’t really matter.

  98. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 14, 2018 at 4:31 pm
    “That is mean”
    McCabe played mean. I didn’t see your side complaining.

    – Except the leaking the IG found he did actually was against Clinton. I think it’s a petty, vindictive move to fire him days before he’s about to get his pension.

    I won’t lose any sleep over it if Sessions does it, but it’s no better than firing the Secretary of State by a tweet.

  99. Phil says:

    What evidence is there that Trump wants to talk about tax cuts, destruction of Isis, and judges?

    Well, I agree. That’s the problem. He continues to be his own worst enemy.

  100. NYCmike says:

    ” In 2010, Obama was unpopular and the voters took it out on his party.”

    -Obama’s policies were unpopular. Say what you will about the Tea Party, but those massive rallies were centered around concrete policy issues, not dislike of Obama’s cult of personality.

    “In 2018, Trump is even more unpopular and the voters are going to take it out on his party.”

    -You keep saying that, repeating what the MSM says.

    Meanwhile, Trump’s polling is similar to what Obama had, yet the media loved him. Do you not see how you do their bidding for them?

  101. Phil says:

    …and yeah, at Trump’s rallies he does talk about weird stuff – stuff that drowns out the message.

  102. NYCmike says:

    I think it was worse to fire Tillerson by tweet than to fire McCabe before his pension vests. McCabe took an oath, and pissed on the people he was supposed to serve, without favor of one over another.

    More government officials should be treated in such a way, when they do wrong!

  103. NYCmike says:

    November hinges on the economy. Republicans in Congress should continue doing everything they can to make sure of this……and that includes staying out of the way if that would work best.

  104. Wes says:

    Here’s my takeaway from yesterday’s results:

    Get better candidates.

    Saccone was a lackluster candidate who ran a mediocre campaign against a Democrat who pretended to be for everything in the GOP platform.

    That was enough to barely flip the seat to the Dems. Clearly a stronger would have won given the narrowness of Lamb’s victory.

    We saw a similar dynamic in Alabama.

    We also see strong GOP Senate candidates in various states currently bucking this trend.

  105. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I want to live in place with strict gun control laws; it would make me feel safe

    — from the Wall Street Journal:

    “U.S. Navy Medics Get Prepared for Combat—With Tour of Duty in Chicago”

  106. NYCmike says:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/man-dressed-as-elsa-from-frozen-pushes-police-wagon-out-of-snow_us_5aa8dffbe4b018e2f1c309ab

    -This is why Robbie wasn’t here until today…..absolutely GREAT JOB on Robbie’s part!

  107. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    106. “We saw a similar dynamic in Alabama.”

    I would rate the candidate in Alabama a loon, not just lackluster.

  108. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 14, 2018 at 4:40 pm

    “In 2018, Trump is even more unpopular and the voters are going to take it out on his party.”
    -You keep saying that, repeating what the MSM says.
    Meanwhile, Trump’s polling is similar to what Obama had, yet the media loved him. Do you not see how you do their bidding for them?

    – Give me a break. You really can’t be this out to lunch all of the time. And who cares what the press thinks. The press hated Reagan as well, but that didn’t stop him from achieving far higher approval rating and 59% on his second election.

    Obama’s approval rating in RCP on election day in 2010 was 45%. Today, Trump’s is far lower at around 40%. That is NOT similar.

  109. Wes says:

    I said similar, SDC, not identical.

  110. Wes says:

    Roy Moore was lackluster thouhh. Just look at his anemic 2012 victory. Alabamans were not fans of his and had one too many reasons to reject him last year.

  111. Wes says:

    Though*

  112. Phil says:

    Wes. What’s your early assessment of the NC congressional races in NC? I always look to you on all political things NC. I read somewhere that Dems are targeting two of them.

  113. Tina says:

    Wes nails it.

    Suckone made no outreach to coal miners.

  114. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 14, 2018 at 4:46 pm
    November hinges on the economy. Republicans in Congress should continue doing everything they can to make sure of this……and that includes staying out of the way if that would work best.

    – Under normal circumstances, this would be 100% correct.

    The problem is the president is the one who often veers off script and drowns out the very good message he has to sell.

    Republicans can talk all they want about the economy, but Trump blots out the sun and when he riffs about random, stupid stuff, the Republican message gets lost in the ether.

  115. Wes says:

    Given the current map, Phil, Dems would need another 1958 or 1974 to flip those seats. Doable but unlikely at this stage.

  116. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    March 14, 2018 at 4:57 pm
    Roy Moore was lackluster thouhh. Just look at his anemic 2012 victory. Alabamans were not fans of his and had one too many reasons to reject him last year.

    – Good ole Roy would have been in dog fight without being credibly accused of molestation.

  117. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Will be interesting to watch if Lamb follows through with his pledge to oppose an “assault” weapon ban. If he does, and votes the way he promised in the election, he might have a challenge in the next primary. Apparently he is still also refusing to criticize Trump.

    If he stays the course, he may not have much of a future as a Democrat. He does have another option.

  118. Tina says:

    Mess lsd.

    Mccabe is ;o patriot.

    Sessions likely has no balls to fire him,especially since. He retires with full benes on sunday.

    He is civil service, not an appointee, so i am sure he could appeal.

  119. Tina says:

    And mccabe stepped down for “just leaking about her thighness.”

  120. Tina says:

    Mccabe rubs out the clock because sessions refuses to act. Prolly delegated everythinng to swampstein anyway.

    Protect swamp at all costs.

    Mccabe is swamp.

  121. Tina says:

    And he is no patriot,

    He is a her thighness supporter who gummed up all investigtions,

    If he gets fired, it is because he held onto the laptops from the sex offender, humas hubby.

  122. Tina says:

    It could be that sessions is leaning to firing him, however.

    There are reports that sessions and mcmaster are set to be fired.

    Planted by deep sheot state.

  123. Tina says:

    Succmore also could not raise money.

  124. Tina says:

    Glenn Greenwald
    @ggreenwald
    This person teaches at Harvard Law. He genuinely believes Trump chose Tillerson to be Secretary of State because Putin ordered it, because Tillerson is a Kremlin asset, but now believes Trump fired him because Putin ordered this. This is a psychological, not a political, issue.
    Show this thread

    Tribe is a loon.

  125. Tina says:

    Ds will also use cia plants as candidates in the upcoming election, the script is written,

    2018, these cia candidates will recycle muh russian, then say its classified, and they cannot talk about it.

    The cia candidate replaces the 2006 veteran candidate.

  126. Phil says:

    Well, as far as I am concerned they can just throw McCabe, Pete, his mistress and the lot of them right out on their asses.

  127. Tina says:

    The ds are running from the tax cuts, by promising full repeal.

    They also are not running as pro border enforcement, like they did in 2006.

  128. Tina says:

    And do not forget comedy.m woukd be nice if comedy is indicted and then perp walked, on his way from his first book interview with cnn.

  129. Tina says:

    These cia candidates are frauds and threats.

  130. Tina says:

    Sessions should fire mccabe and perp walk him too.

    There are more crime at he committed, such as the insurance policy, if you phuq flynn, you phuq trump, etc.

  131. Robbie says:

    My controversial view, and I’ve believed it for some time, is Republicans cannot hold the House in 2018 if Trump is president. However, I do believe Republicans could easily hold the House if Pence were to become president by late Spring.

    Obviously Trump is not going to resign and there is no reason to impeach him so he’s not going to be pushed out. FULL STOP. That said, I do believe, if Trump were pushed out by early May, there would be plenty of time for the party to rally and recover with Pence as president.

  132. Tina says:

    And look who leaked it to the wp and ny times. Those leakers are mccabe allies.

    They create this

    Sessions fire him, he is just a trump lacky.

    Sessions does not fire him, sesssions will be fired by trump.

    See the incentive to leak and by whom?

  133. Robbie says:

    One thing to consider about Nancy Pelosi is this. There’s at least a chance she makes it clear she will not serve as Speaker. It’s unlikely, but consider what Senate Democrats did before good ole Roy’s race. They threw Franken overboard precisely so they could take the high ground in Moore’s race.

    If Pelosi were to announce in late Summer or early Fall she wouldn’t be Speaker, what would Republicans do? Half of their advertising agenda would be toast.

  134. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    To fire McCabe a few days before retirement would be petty. He has been with the FBI for several decades.

  135. Tina says:

    Where is hogg.

    We need more hogg.

  136. Tina says:

    But if he were to be fired, it would be the start of good reforms at the weaponized fbi.

  137. Tina says:

    Jake Gibson
    @JakeBGibson
    A source with knowledge of the investigation tells Fox News Andrew McCabe’s entire pension is, “definitely in jeopardy.” @FoxNews @foxnewspolitics

    If you do it, please include a perp walk.

    Justice for flynn

  138. Phil says:

    Becoming obvious they have the goods on McCabe.

  139. Tina says:

    And it is not leaking or just leaking something about her thighness,

  140. Phil says:

    How long would it take the MSM to refocus their hate from Trump to Pence. My guess: about eighteen minutes. They would have him completely demonized in two to three days.

  141. Robbie says:

    The rumor Trump is planning to fire Sessions and replace him with Pruitt so Pruitt can fire Muller has been floating around all week.

    I have a hard time believing Trump could be so stupid, but, if he were to do this, it would be a catastrophe for Trump and for Republicans. It would create a media and public firestorm the likes of which we’ve never seen.

    If Trump does it though, it’s because he’s concluded the Republicans in the House and Senate are too afraid of him to follow through on their threats from last Summer that it would be a red line. he’s probably right.

    Bill Kristol
    ?@BillKristol

    This is RUMINT, but pretty credible RUMINT: Trump preparing to fire Sessions, name Pruitt Acting AG (which he can be since he already holds a Senate confirmed position), and Pruitt fires Mueller. And McMaster likely to be replaced by Bolton. Shulkin also on way out, FWIW.

  142. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 14, 2018 at 5:56 pm
    How long would it take the MSM to refocus their hate from Trump to Pence. My guess: about eighteen minutes. They would have him completely demonized in two to three days.

    – Of course the press would focus their hate on Pence. That’s not even up for debate. But it’s not the press that has Trump in trouble. It’s Trump that has Trump in trouble.

  143. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Great article from Townhall:

    “On election day 2016, Donald Trump’s unfavorability rating among American voters — not theoretically, but among the people who actually turned out to vote — was a whopping and unprecedented 60 percent. Hillary Clinton, who’d outspent Trump by roughly a two-to-one margin, lost to him. That was an extraordinary feat.”

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/guybenson/2018/03/14/hillary-just-keeps-talking-n2460449?utm_source=thdailypm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_pm&newsletterad

  144. Phil says:

    Trump is his own worst enemy. That said, the MSM is absolutely unhinged. The MSM has become ridiculous. Hell, even Jimmy Carter acknowledged such within the last month. It’s a two way street.

  145. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    139. “But if he were to be fired, it would be the start of good reforms at the weaponized fbi.”

    So what? He’s gone through retirement in a very short time anyways. Doesn’t Trump have enough firestorms to keep him busy? Playing with someone’s retirement is going to offend people.

  146. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    March 14, 2018 at 6:49 pm
    139. “But if he were to be fired, it would be the start of good reforms at the weaponized fbi.”
    So what? He’s gone through retirement in a very short time anyways. Doesn’t Trump have enough firestorms to keep him busy? Playing with someone’s retirement is going to offend people.

    – Sometimes, Trump reminds me of Jim Caray’s character Fire Marshall Bill from “In Living Color”.

  147. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/03/14/how-cool-is-this-mad-dog-mattis-has-a-kickass-message-for-team-usa-goalie-maddie-rooney-pic/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

    -If Robbie’s wet dream comes true, and Trump leaves the Presidency, how can we get Mattis to fill that office?

    This is one cool dude, and I am happy for that Gold Medal Goalie!

  148. gameboy says:

    #144…..I hope your information is accurate. The time has come for the Mueller charade to come to an end. The whole thing is a total joke.

  149. Ron N says:

    My guess is the leak stuff on McCabe is the small stuff they have on him to get out in front of the story. For all the other crimes he committed. So he can get news media to come to his side before everything gets out.

  150. Tina says:

    See they already started with the fire sessions baloney.

    All because mccabes friends leaked to the slimes and wp.

    Predictible.

  151. Tina says:

    Do not believe leaks from the deck of the uss minnow.

  152. Tina says:

    Trump reached out to get kudlow, a person who disagrees with him on tariffs.

    Not imoressed with the pick, but it is his pick.

  153. NYCmike says:

    https://nypost.com/2018/03/14/disturbing-video-shows-baseball-player-attacking-girlfriend/

    -They should send this SOB back to Venezuela, after he is someones girlfriend in jail for a year.

  154. Tina says:

    The media is at fault here, they set up the fire leak feom mccabes friends, he is civil service, career, so he can appeal.

    There does not appear to be enough time to fire him, before he retires.

  155. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    149. “– Sometimes, Trump reminds me of Jim Caray’s character Fire Marshall Bill from “In Living Color”.”

    Robbie, What frightens me is I actually agreed with some of the things you said in your posts today. Its time for a trip to Bogo Pogo and some mango sangria.

  156. Tina says:

    I do not know how those highky dangerous chemicals got into england. Nobody was aboe to stop it?

  157. Tina says:

    Now mcmaster, kelky, and shulkin, an obama holdover, are set to be fired.

    We add sessions.

  158. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    154. “Do not believe leaks from the deck of the uss minnow.”

    Am not worried about leaks from the deck, it the ones in the hull that are the problem.

  159. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:29 pm
    https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/03/14/how-cool-is-this-mad-dog-mattis-has-a-kickass-message-for-team-usa-goalie-maddie-rooney-pic/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

    -If Robbie’s wet dream comes true, and Trump leaves the Presidency, how can we get Mattis to fill that office?

    This is one cool dude, and I am happy for that Gold Medal Goalie!

    – I believe the Secretary of Defense is fifth in line for the presidency. In other words, Pence, Ryan, Hatch, and the Secretary of State would have to decline the presidency if Trump resigned in order for Mattis to become president.

  160. Tina says:

    The inner socialist probably learned of the leak from mika face scarfarce.

  161. Robbie says:

    gameboy says:
    March 14, 2018 at 7:35 pm
    #144…..I hope your information is accurate. The time has come for the Mueller charade to come to an end. The whole thing is a total joke.

    – Except for Manafort, Gates, Flynn, Papadopolous, and the 13 Russians who have either been indicted or plead guilty to crimes brought by Mueller.

  162. Tina says:

    If mccabe is fired, it needs to include ohr, weisman, pete the cheat, and the mistress.

    Firing blood bath.

  163. Bitterlaw says:

    Did anybody post this story?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5501597/Donald-Trump-Jr-wife-Vanessa-expected-file-divorce.html

    Maybe Trump ordered her to divorce his son and marry a cooler guy.

  164. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    March 14, 2018 at 8:02 pm
    149. “– Sometimes, Trump reminds me of Jim Caray’s character Fire Marshall Bill from “In Living Color”.”

    Robbie, What frightens me is I actually agreed with some of the things you said in your posts today. Its time for a trip to Bogo Pogo and some mango sangria.

    – We all have moments of weakness.

  165. Tina says:

    Include perp walks.

    Do like they do to a drug dealer or martha stewart.

    Too bad my favorite ag is not there from the reagan admin, Meese, only if Meese were a few years younger.

    It needs to be a brutal take down of the coup plotters.

  166. Tina says:

    I read that Hillary injured her wrist. Did this hapoen when she fell in India after the hate speech?

  167. Bitterlaw says:

    If Sessions is fired, Trump will have done incredible damage for no good reason. He took Sessions away from a Senate seat he would have held for life. That created an opening that gave us the disaster of Roy Moore losing to Jones.

    Too bad he did not appoint Kelly Ayotte. However, she refused to kiss his ring so he F’ed up Alabama instead.

  168. Tina says:

    Zzzz Sessions fired.

    Quit biting all leaks.

  169. Tina says:

    Kelly will be fired for blocking the release of the Ig report,

    Theycantsopmakingnthissheotup.

  170. Tina says:

    Alex Pappas
    @AlexPappas
    Fox News’ @johnrobertsFox reports possible Trump admin changes: national sec adviser McMaster replaced by Bolton; VA’s Shulkin replaces by Rick Perry; Ray Washburne to Energy; COS Kelly replaced by Mulvaney

  171. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    March 14, 2018 at 8:17 pm
    If Sessions is fired, Trump will have done incredible damage for no good reason. He took Sessions away from a Senate seat he would have held for life. That created an opening that gave us the disaster of Roy Moore losing to Jones.

    Too bad he did not appoint Kelly Ayotte. However, she refused to kiss his ring so he F’ed up Alabama instead.

    – Firing Sessions would be really bad, but it’s the possibility he might replace him with Pruitt so Pruitt could then fire Mueller that is so troubling. That would spark a firestorm of unimaginable proportions and bring talk of impeachment to the fore. It would be a constitutional crisis and I think it would break the Republican Party because a portion would side with the view Trump either needs to be impeached or resign.

  172. Bitterlaw says:

    Bad year for Don, Jr. He lost his security clearance and his marriage. He is also a douche.

  173. Phil says:

    Too bad Trump did not appoint Kelly Ayotte (to AG). However, she refused to kiss the ring and so he F’d up Alabama instead.

    Amen to that, Bitter.

  174. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – You and Corey are most of the portion of the GOP who thinks Trump should be impeached or resign. Not even JEB! talks about it.

  175. Tina says:

    Rand paul to block trumps cia and sos picks.

  176. Tina says:

    No, the ten commandments politician phuqed up alabama, followed by mitchie who took out the only credible one.

  177. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – To be fair to Trump, it was hard to foresee that even Alabama could screw up a Senate race that badly.

  178. Phil says:

    174

    Probably right about all that and how it would play out – although Mueller and his Hillary donating cronies absolutely deserve to go.

  179. Tina says:

    We also need to question why their needed to be an election so quickly and why the best option, keeping big senator.

  180. Phil says:

    Bitter

    yep

  181. Bitterlaw says:

    Save your McConnell hatred, Tina. Roy Moore and Deadenders blew up Alabama. McConnell did not cast a vote there. The Alabama primary voters own that disaster. Trump should have left Sessions where he was.

  182. Tina says:

    Rather than fire mukehead and his ds, the rs can grow some pants and just defund him. Starve the arse, and the arse dies.

  183. Tina says:

    Ok bl its all trumps fault for choosing sessions in philly world.

    I get it,

  184. Tina says:

    Or take out swampstein and let swampsteins replacement fire mulehead.

    There are choices.

    But I am not buying the leaks to the wp and ny times re mccabe. They came from his friends, it sets up sessions too either fire mccabe, or sessions gets fired for doing nothing stories,

  185. Tina says:

    Well mitchie did take out luthir strange. He would have been a better choice over ten commandments, if given only thosr two choices.

    Of course keeping big senator would have been the best choice,

    But I live in ca, i only have drat vs socialist.

  186. Bitterlaw says:

    Would Jones be a Senator without the special election? No. Would there have been a special election if Sessions was not appointed AG? No.

    Trump created the vacancy. Moore screwed up the race.

  187. Tina says:

    Did hogg appear today.

    I need my daily hogg tweets and appearances.

    I really think he can fo far in politics.

    I may vote for hogg.

  188. Phil says:

    The only good thing about Alabama is that it finished Bannon. His credibility such as it was is now long gone. I think it helps McSally in Arizona and she will now win the primary giving her a better than 50-50 shot to keep the seat in November. I think the seat was gone before that with the nomination of Bannon’s candidate Ward. Net could work out that we get McSally for six years instead of a liberal Democrat. Jones is gone in 2020 regardless so we only have to put up with him for two years.

  189. Wes says:

    McConnell did not take out Strange. He supported him.

  190. Phil says:

    Bannon has disappeared. That is a good thing…unless you happen to be a Democrat.

  191. Tina says:

    And sessions could have refused the job and kept his old job.

  192. Bitterlaw says:

    Uh oh. A Wes – Tina fight is brewing. HHR trembles.

  193. Phil says:

    Hogg…a future president

    How about a Hogg-Sean Penn ticket down the line?

    Make America Venezuela.

    Nice ring to it….or we could elect Kamala Harris to make America California.

    Wait a sec. That would be the same slogan.

    Right?

  194. Tina says:

    No, I erred, I meant that other candidate that mitchie took out, not strange,

    I wanted strange to be retained.

  195. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    March 14, 2018 at 8:28 pm
    Robbie – You and Corey are most of the portion of the GOP who thinks Trump should be impeached or resign. Not even JEB! talks about it.

    – No. As I wrote earlier in this thread, there is no reason to impeach Trump right now and there is no reason to demand his resignation either. I would love it if he woke up tomorrow and quit, but I’m not demanding it.

  196. Tina says:

    Hogg wants bi partisan ship.

    I really like him.

  197. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 14, 2018 at 8:27 pm
    Too bad Trump did not appoint Kelly Ayotte (to AG). However, she refused to kiss the ring and so he F’d up Alabama instead.

    Amen to that, Bitter.

    – Be glad he didn’t appoint her to anything. Her reputation will remain in tact.

  198. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 14, 2018 at 8:31 pm
    174

    Probably right about all that and how it would play out – although Mueller and his Hillary donating cronies absolutely deserve to go.

    – No, they don’t Phil.

  199. Wes says:

    Strange should never have accepted Bentley’s appointment. That lack of judgment fatslly wounded him in the primary.

    Roy Moore znd Stdve Bannon then proceeded to piss away the seat, which Moore was always going to have a hard time holding.

  200. Bitterlaw says:

    If California is so terrible, why do so many people live there? Maybe it’s not so bad. Tina? Explain it.

  201. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    173. “Alex Pappas@AlexPappas Fox News’ @johnrobertsFox reports possible Trump admin changes: national sec adviser McMaster replaced by Bolton; VA’s Shulkin replaces by Rick Perry; Ray Washburne to Energy; COS Kelly replaced by Mulvaney”

    I hope this game of musical chairs is not true.

  202. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 14, 2018 at 8:43 pm
    Bannon has disappeared. That is a good thing…unless you happen to be a Democrat.

    – In fact, he’s been touring Europe. This past weekend he spoke at the Le Pen National Front party and told them to wear charges of racism as a badge of honor. Now today, he told ABC while in Italy that he is fascinated with Mussolini.

  203. Wes says:

    McConnell thought Moore was an unelectable psychopath Strange could beat in the primary. That’s why he nuked Brooks.

    Unfortunately McConnell ws only right about the unelectable psychopath part.

  204. Wes says:

    Boy, I was typing so fast I made a post that looked like one of Tina’s.

  205. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    March 14, 2018 at 8:54 pm
    173. “Alex Pappas@AlexPappas Fox News’ @johnrobertsFox reports possible Trump admin changes: national sec adviser McMaster replaced by Bolton; VA’s Shulkin replaces by Rick Perry; Ray Washburne to Energy; COS Kelly replaced by Mulvaney”

    I hope this game of musical chairs is not true.

    – Beware the Friday afternoon 5 PM news dump, especially one that occurs when the NCAA tournament is happening.

  206. Tina says:

    Bitter eagle, I live here

    Because, I own a 1.4 million dollar home. I pay $2500 in real estate taxes due to prop 13.

    I like the mild climate, not too hot and not too cold.

    SF is beautiful.

    Other areas look like a sheet hole.

  207. Phil says:

    Yes, Robbie. They actually do. There was no Russian collusion with the Trump campaign and in your more sane moments you have acknowledged that. I’m also not all that fired up about the indictment of 13 Russians who will never see the inside of a courtroom.

  208. Tina says:

    Ban on served his role.

    Debate 2.

    Epic.

  209. Tina says:

    I do not do snow, ice, or cold.

    I do not do desert heat either.

    I need scenery. Each area is unique geographically.

    Compared to the flat areas elsewhere, where one city looks like the next.

  210. Tina says:

    To end the mule head hoax, it is up to the house to choke off mule head financially.

    Swamp stein is letting this get out of control..

    We saw with the Russian indictments, the shenanigans involving Pete and the mistress, and the looney guy that went postal, numbers or whatever his name is,

    Enough is enough.

  211. Phil says:

    1.4 million for a what did you say before? 1200 square foot house?

    Just out of curiosity, do most of the people in California live together? Just trying to understand how you pay a mortgage out there.

  212. Tina says:

    I did not pay that amount.

    It is worth that however.

    It rents for 5000 a month.

    4100 foot lot, 1200 sq feet, good hood. Lots of leftists and jebbots.

    People buy now with their families or extended families.

  213. lisab says:

    who will be the dem candidate in 2020

    biden
    bernie
    oprah

    who else?

  214. Bitterlaw says:

    Not too hot and not too cold? Zzzzzzzzz. What is the fun in that? I get too hot and too cold in PA and love it.

    I have heard that SF is beautiful. My wife wants to visit there. I don’t.

  215. Bitterlaw says:

    Not too hot and not too cold? Zzzzzzzzz. What is the fun in that? I get too hot and too cold in PA and love it.

    I have heard that SF is beautiful. My wife wants to visit there. I don’t.

  216. lisab says:

    I have heard that SF is beautiful.
    ——————————

    meh

    maybe it was before people started pooping on the street

  217. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina does not like flat areas. Sorry, lisab.

    Zing!

  218. Phil says:

    I know, Tina, but I’m trying to understand how a young couple can afford a half a million starter home….I was a teacher and am wondering how teachers out there ever afford a home of their own. Do they live in dorms?

    We downsized and moved to Huntsville, Tx four years ago. Built on a lot (12000 square feet). The house cost 280K and the lot was another 5K. The house now appraises for 305K. It is just under 2800 square feet – three bedrooms, a study and three baths and has all the upgrades. The wrought iron fence we had put up surrounding the property did cost us another 9K. Property taxes are 5200 per year.

    I know the cost of living out there is high but, again, how do people afford housing. I can’t get my arms around that and have always been curious. Is it some kind of funky mortgage system out there where you pay just interest and never get around to paying down the principle?

  219. Phil says:

    Lisa,

    Kamala Harris. The first female president. There won’t be a southern border and she’ll see to that so it will be hard to determine where Mexico leaves off and the US begins – but she’ll be president of the general area of what’s left of the US.

  220. Tina says:

    Well you asked for why i like ca and gave tou some answer.

    Medically, i cannot do hot temps.

  221. Tina says:

    Phil, there are a lot of poor and illegals. There are also a lot of rich people with their mansions.

    There is no middle class.

  222. Phil says:

    I would guess the high price of housing does sueeze the middle class numbers. However, those that are considered middle class, do most live in apartment?

  223. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    214. “Just out of curiosity, do most of the people in California live together? Just trying to understand how you pay a mortgage out there.”

    Had a friend in his late 20s just move to San Francisco for a tech job. Makes about $90,000, lives in a house with roommates. Its normal. Unless you have major income, you are renting with other people.

    Its a little better, but not by much, in San Diego. Most teachers I know live in apartments.

    As lisab pointed out, the homeless problem is massive now. They sleep on the streets everywhere. As a result San Diego just went through a major hepatitis A epidemic. There are crazy people talking to themselves everywhere. It is a zombie jungle. Rarely do you see police, and often you are put on hold even for 9-11 calls.

    The major growth in Southern California is in the suburban communities — like Victorville, Murrieta, Temecula. People still prefer single family homes, but there is not much land near the coast for them anymore.

  224. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 14, 2018 at 8:58 pm
    Yes, Robbie. They actually do. There was no Russian collusion with the Trump campaign and in your more sane moments you have acknowledged that. I’m also not all that fired up about the indictment of 13 Russians who will never see the inside of a courtroom

    – That’s not what I have said. I have said I don’t believe Trump, personally, colluded with anyone. I have, however, stated many times I believe elements of his campaign actively sought to conspire with Russians offering dirt on Clinton. Case in point is Don Jr. He took a meeting knowing that Russians claiming to be sent by Putin had dirt on Clinton. In an email he wrote, “If it’s what you say it is, I love it”.

    As it relates to Trump, I believe he sought to impede the investigation into his campaign when he fired Comey. Again, we have his own words to Lester Holt to back that up. On top of that, we have what he said to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador about why he fired Comey.

    The question surrounding Trump is whether his actions to impede the investigation rise to obstruction of justice.

  225. Tina says:

    Homeless is not a problem near piglosi mansion.

    But in sf, you do have to watch out for the homeless, the poo, needles, peeeepeeee., etc.

  226. Tina says:

    San Diego is beautiful, i like it a lot too.

  227. Robbie says:

    It amazes Tina still posts stories from GatewayPundit even after that scumbag claimed many of the students at Parkland were crisis actors or that the Sheriff Broward County had an affair with a 16 year old girl and forced her to get an abortion.

  228. Tina says:

    It is amazing that the jebot aka drat in drag indicated that the oig report was out weeks ago.

  229. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    229. “San Diego is beautiful, i like it a lot too.”

    Yes, but like San Francisco it is starting to have the same urban issues. Do love the Bay Area, there is nowhere as scenic; and its close to the Redwoods, Sierras, etc. Plus you have the Central Valley which is one of the most productive agricultural areas of the world. It is hard to watch California decline.

    Saying that, what is taking place with tech, biotech and other industries in California is amazing. Because it is a nice place to live, people are willing to put up with the high taxes and craziness.

    Another thing people often don’t realize, even though you see the leftist and all their follies, and think the place is crazy (which it is), it is really the tech, real estate and other powerful business titans who are running the state. They chirp “progressive” social ideas, and support equality, etc., but are able to protect their interests behind the scene — and fund the Democratic establishment. The result is the very rich are sheltered; the very poor provided benefits; and the middle class exploited, which has resulted in a mass exodus of millions from the state.

  230. Phil says:

    My dad used to play golf once a year in San Diego before he passed. Loved it. Really looked forward to that trip with his buds. He said the courses were beautiful and the weather spectacular. I never got to go with them.

  231. MichiganGuy says:

    ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗

    Chris McDaniel switches races in Mississippi’s double-barreled Senate contest
    .
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/03/14/conservative-mcdaniel-switches-races-in-mississippi-s-double-barreled-senate-contest.html

    ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗ ❗

  232. Gpo says:

    Robbie says:
    March 14, 2018 at 10:31 pm
    It amazes Tina still posts stories from GatewayPundit even after that scumbag claimed many of the students at Parkland were crisis actors or that the Sheriff Broward County had an affair with a 16 year old girl and forced her to get an abortion.

    Did he cite wrong law or not Robbie

  233. MichiganGuy says:

    Mayor of Apopka, FL race results
    .
    Republican County Commissioner Bryan Nelson 63%
    Democratic Mayor Kilsheimer 37%
    .
    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/orange/os-apopka-winter-park-mayor-election-20180313-story.html

  234. Phil says:

    Hey, Robbie. Funny how you have no problem with the funny business out of the Clinton campaign. Not a peep from you about any of it for over a year now. Your search for justice is BS. If justice was your real concern you might worry a little more about that clean Clinton campaign….but you couldn’t care less. You hate Trump. We get it.

    Obstruction of justice? Don’t make me laugh. He can fire Comey for coming to work with his hair parted on the wrong side. The investigation has gone nowhere, but you and Morning Joe keep looking for that allusive process crime.

    Comey has nothing with regard to obstruction of justice, my friend. Live with it.

  235. janz says:

    #233 “The result is the very rich are sheltered; the very poor provided benefits; and the middle class exploited, which has resulted in a mass exodus of millions from the state.”

    That was a succinct, accurate analysis of CA, San Diego.

    As for CA’s housing prices — the coastal areas have long been overly inflated, and increasingly unaffordable for even high-income couples. More and more parents are helping adult children out with down payments to get them into a “starter” million dollar home.

    I know it all sounds crazy because it is crazy. And, I do think there will be a day of reckoning — either fiscally, because of our pension liabilities and state debt, or due to natural occurrences known to happen here called earthquakes.

  236. Tgca says:

    Robbie sounds like Hillary Clinton. Can’t get over the Trump win and twists every event that is negative towards GOP to blaming Trump but yet he’s absent when positive events toward GOP or Trump occur.

    We get it Robbie! You’re still in denial and need a punching bag but sooner or later you’ll have to accept reality. Each and every candidate has to run on their promises, record, or ability to attract voters. Yes, when times are bad, people like to blame and punish POTUS but that’s not the case here. People did not vote against Saccone because of Trumps tweets. It was because he was outshined by Lamb, who really ran as a Republican. I doubt that is how he will govern though.

    You’re accusing Trump of the GOP destruction is what many accused GWB of and go back and look at those losses that happened on his watch.

    Historical analysis shows that mid-terms hurt the party in power 90% of the time, but you wish to spin it simply as Trump. Yes, I believe Trump can behave better but he’s not on the ticket in these local elections where in other recent elections, the GOP won. So pick and choose if it makes you feel better but my guess is if the GOP had another candidate over a Saccone, it would have been an outright win for the GOP in this District which has many conservative Dems.

  237. MichiganGuy says:

    Illinois Gov GOP Primary:
    .
    Rauner 42%
    Ives 35%
    .
    Ogden & Fry Poll
    .
    https://twitter.com/MaryAnnAhernNBC/status/974068497125961730

  238. Tgca says:

    Janz

    I agree. The Dems have destroyed CA for the middle class. I lived there for almost 20 years and watched it change dramatically. The Calpers program is going to bankrupt the state as all those pensions will come due one day, and they have no way to adequately fund it.

    In addition, a major earthquake is due and if it happens in the populous areas, that will send many packing too. CA is probably due for an 8+ earthquake by historical standards and depending where it hits, the type (shaker vs push up), and it’s period, it could cause mass devastation to cities as never seen before. I lived in a SF high rise when a 5 magnitude hit and I literally felt the floor under me rise and lower. I felt like I was standing on a water bed for like 3 seconds. Imagine if an 8 mag hit for 30 seconds in LA or SF, especially since a good portion of downtown SF is on landfill which becomes like quicksand under such force.

  239. MichiganGuy says:

    A Michigan man running as a Libertarian for U.S. Senate says he wants to raise money to buy 20 pump style shotguns for homeless individuals.
    .
    http://michiganradio.org/post/us-senate-candidate-wants-buy-guns-homeless-people

  240. janz says:

    GOP cites numerous issues at polling sites ahead of likely Pennsylvania recount.
     
    “Among the listed concerns are “miscalibrated” voting machines in Allegheny County, the only county of four in the district that went for Lamb, according to the source, who said there have been many reports of voters who intended to vote for Saccone ending up casting a ballot for Lamb.
     
    Furthermore, Republicans say their attorneys were ejected from polling sites as the absentee ballots were still being counted and that due to confusion caused by the Pennsylvania secretary of state website people were directed to the wrong polling locations.

    Republicans have demanded that all ballots and voting machines be impounded in preparation for the likely recount.”

    Allegheny seems to be the one county under scrutiny, having a questionable history of voting irregularities.

  241. MichiganGuy says:

    Generic Congressional Ballot:
    .
    Democrats 43% (+5)
    Republicans 38%
    .

    YouGov/Economist 3/10-13
    https://t.co/VmQxa1ipQK
    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    wow dems +5 That’s a huge wave. At least 100 seats. LOL

  242. MichiganGuy says:

    #CA48 Open Primary:
    .
    Rohrabacher (R-inc) 35%
    Oatman (D) 10%
    Rouda (D) 10%
    Baugh (R) 7%
    Keirstead (D) 7%
    Payne (D) 4%
    Reiser (L) 4%
    Kotick (D) 3%
    Onufrei (R) 3%

    ChangePolls/FightBackCAPAC
    .
    https://t.co/3VB3UgBqkr

  243. Tina says:

    Hillary stated: “I won the places that are optimistic, diverse, dynamic, moving forward. And his whole campaign, ‘Make America Great Again,’ was looking backwards.”

    I still love Hillary. I never mention her negatively.

    Jebot

  244. Tina says:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-trump-dossier-authors-doubt-golden-shower-allegation#click=https://t.co/y5U6DdG7an

    Golden ahower claim admitted to be falsse now by the dossier authors.

    They shoukd be arrested. Steele is a foreigner who interfered in our election

  245. Tina says:

    Even amid the various allegations of Trump-Russia connections, it was the “golden showers” episode that most excited those involved in the Clinton campaign-funded effort to find Russian dirt on Trump. It was the story that most excited those in the Obama administration who learned about it. (According to a new book, former national security adviser Susan Rice urged Director of National Intelligence James Clapper to “tell Obama about the ‘golden showers’ allegation.”) At the same time, it deeply disturbed Trump. And, of course, it excited the ranks of Trump resisters on Twitter and elsewhere who long for video evidence; just look up #peepeetape.

    You tube rice always in something and lying,

  246. Tina says:

    This is paul Ryans pac

    https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/lamb-1.jpg

    Boneheaded decision to run this pro-lamb piece imp.

  247. Bitterlaw says:

    The Wizard failed us. No HHR bracket this year.

    Good luck to Villanova.

  248. Bitterlaw says:

    I am also expecting deep runs for Cincinatti and Purdue. Does DW agree?

  249. GPO says:

    my 4 no big upsets

    Xavier
    Arizona
    Nova
    Michigan State

    Xavier to win it all

  250. Tim says:

    My Final Four has Cincinnati, Gonzaga, Villanova, and Michigan State. Villanova should win it. If they play their best game, no one can beat them.

  251. NYCmike says:

    Nephew of mine has participated in the NCAA tournament thru an auction held at one of our local bars. Seven or eight years ago when it started the pool was like 50K.

    They held the auction Monday night….the total pool was over 800K.

    CRAZY!

  252. NYCmike says:

    The sailor who was found guilty for taking pictures….he blamed Obama, his “Justice” Dept, and the FBI agents who pursued the case.

    Robbie should include his name whenever he yaps at mnw for supposedly denigrating the men and women of the FBI./

  253. Messy57 says:

    248. How? The dossier wasn’t used nor was it known to anyone except as a whispered rumor prior to the election. The Russian troll farms were spewing crap all over the place, and you guys believed it.

    Had the Steele dossier been actually used, Hillary would be president and the Democrats would have a small majority in the Senate.

  254. NYCmike says:

    “Had the Steele dossier been actually used, Hillary would be president and the Democrats would have a small majority in the Senate.”

    -Heh.

    Madame President……NO.

  255. Chicon says:

    Wes, which does history tell us is more predictive of seats won or lost in congressional seasons; the President’s JA rating, or the congressional generic ballot polls?

  256. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 15, 2018 at 12:00 am
    Hey, Robbie. Funny how you have no problem with the funny business out of the Clinton campaign. Not a peep from you about any of it for over a year now. Your search for justice is BS. If justice was your real concern you might worry a little more about that clean Clinton campaign….but you couldn’t care less. You hate Trump. We get it.
    Obstruction of justice? Don’t make me laugh. He can fire Comey for coming to work with his hair parted on the wrong side. The investigation has gone nowhere, but you and Morning Joe keep looking for that allusive process crime.
    Comey has nothing with regard to obstruction of justice, my friend. Live with it.

    – First, I had plenty of problems with Clinton’s use of an email server. I thought the FBI treated her with kid gloves and that’s one of the reasons she lost to Trump. But why haven’t I discussed Hillary Clinton or her campaign for the last year? First, I don’t work for FoxNews so I’m not required to do so. Second the election ended 492 days ago. It’s over. She lost. She’s out wandering the woods and tripping down stairs in India.

    As for James Comey, you know the law. The president is entitled to fire anyone he wants SO LONG AS IT’S NOT DONE FOR A NEFARIOUS REASON. Despite what the Trump spear catchers want to argue, the president can’t shut down an investigation into himself. If you believe he can, then you are also arguing that, in fact, some men can be above the law in America. That’s not a good place for you to be.

    Finally, if the investigation has gone nowhere, then what are the indictments of Manafort and the 13 Russians for hacking all about? What about the guilty pleas of Papadopolous, Flynn, and Gates? They’re offering cooperation to Mueller. That certainly seems to be an investigation that has gone somewhere.

    But just as importantly, how can you say the investigation is going nowhere? Do you know something we don’t know? Have you been made privy to the inner workings of Mueller’s investigative process? How do you know that more indictments aren’t in the offing?

    Also, I love that you continue mention Morning Joe. He really gets under your skin. Maybe you should take my lead and not watch or pay attention to the show.

  257. Messy57 says:

    258. Yeah, oppo research is only good if it’s used.
    BTW….I voted for Johnson. I will never forgive Hillary for stealing Liz Holtzman’s senate seat back in the day.

  258. Robbie says:

    Tgca says:
    March 15, 2018 at 12:25 am
    Robbie sounds like Hillary Clinton. Can’t get over the Trump win and twists every event that is negative towards GOP to blaming Trump but yet he’s absent when positive events toward GOP or Trump occur.

    – This laughable. If there’s anyone who can’t get over the election, it’s Trump and his spear catchers. Why? Trump and his defenders keep talking about it. Whenever Trump shoots himself in the foot and gets into trouble (a daily occurrence), Trump and his spear catchers barf up “What about Hillary?”. Newsflash! The election ended 492 days ago.

    I know it’s really hard for an ardent Trumpers to realize Orange Donnie is black death for the Republican Party, but he is. And when the reckoning likely comes on election day this year, it will be interesting to see how you handle it. Will you accept the reality that Trump is a millstone around the neck of the party, or will you claim the reason so many lost is they were disloyal to Trump and Trumpism and they were all bad candidates? My bet is on the latter because support for Trump has become cult-like.

  259. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    March 15, 2018 at 10:53 am
    Wes, which does history tell us is more predictive of seats won or lost in congressional seasons; the President’s JA rating, or the congressional generic ballot polls?

    – You’ll never go wrong making assumptions about midterm results using the incumbent party’s presidential approval rating.

    But you can look at it another way. Right now, Trump’s job approval is about 40% in RCP. The Republican standing in the generic ballot is about 38% in RCP. In other words, Republicans are getting just about what Trump gets.

    Here’s another data point about presidential job approval.

    In the Montana special election last June, Trump’s approval rating was 50% in the state on election day. Gianforte got 50%.

    In the special election we just had, Trump’s approval rating in the district, as measured by Monmouth, was 49%. Saccone got 49%.

    In the Alabama senate race, exit poll data showed Trump’s approval rating at 49%. Good ole Roy got 49%.

    In the Georgia special election last June, Trump’s approval was measured at 50%. Handel got 52%.

  260. Chicon says:

    In the past 21 congressional elections in where a president is not on the ballot (1st and 2nd mid-terms), the sitting President’s party gained seats 3 times. Once in 1934, and then Clinton’s 2nd term. The 3rd time was 2002 after 9/11.

    11 times the sitting President’s party lost more than 23 seats.

    http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A2KIbMdFiqpas98Algpx.9w4;_ylu=X3oDMTEyZGM0c2lrBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwM2BHZ0aWQDQjQ1ODRfMQRzZWMDc3I-/RV=2/RE=1521154758/RO=10/RU=http%3a%2f%2fwww.presidency.ucsb.edu%2fdata%2fmid-term_elections.php/RK=2/RS=IgIToud7BhwPF63SWWUy6edxQ3g-

  261. NYCmike says:

    “11 times the sitting President’s party lost more than 23 seats.”

    -Those 23 times was because of Fred Trump.

    The next time will be because of Donald Trump.

  262. NYCmike says:

    “23 times”

    11 times !!

    Coffee!!

  263. NYCmike says:

    “Finally, if the investigation has gone nowhere, then what are the indictments of Manafort and the 13 Russians for hacking all about? What about the guilty pleas of Papadopolous, Flynn, and Gates? They’re offering cooperation to Mueller. That certainly seems to be an investigation that has gone somewhere.”

    -Robbie,

    Here is the problem: if you won’t accept that the federal government can ALWAYS find you an individual at fault for something, then that means you are a fan of large, intrusive federal power…….which would make sense…..being such a Bush-lover.

  264. Chicon says:

    GHWB was at 57% JA in 1990, and lost 8 seats.

    Ford was at 53 JA in 1974, and lost 48 seats.

    Clinton was at 48 in 1994, and lost 52 seats.

    From the link above it appears that history suggests the President needs a JA well into the 50’s to avoid a loss of 23+ seats.

    Which other Republican candidate (or Pence) would be in the mid-50’s?

  265. Tim says:

    Uh…….Mueller is a Republican, put there by Republicans, and is investigating Republicans. Did I miss something, while I wasn’t posting, here? LOL

  266. NYCmike says:

    “Uh…….Mueller is a Republican, put there by Republicans, and is investigating Republicans. Did I miss something, while I wasn’t posting, here? LOL”

    -The people helping him…..what party did they belong to?

    Do you have a breakdown?

    MUST all be Republicans….//

  267. Chicon says:

    Tim, why did Mueller hire democrats nearly exclusively, including some with pretty strong dislike for Trump?

    Wouldn’t a little balance increase the credibility of his investigation?

  268. Chicon says:

    Should call him NYCfasttypingMike…..

  269. Robbie says:

    If we’re looking at midterms, let’s throw out 1934 as a data point. That might as well be medieval times compared to today’s political structure and ethic breakdown of the country.

    First, let’s look at 1998. Against all odds, Democrats gained seats. Why? The economy was roaring. As a result, the roaring economy gave Clinton an approval rating that approached 60% for most of the year. On top of that, Clinton didn’t spend 1998 railing against Ken Starr daily. He let his associates (henchmen) do that. So when we did see and hear from Clinton, he was generally talking about the economy. The country, sadly, liked him.

    In 2002, GWB had a high approval rating due to the aftermath of the terrorist attacks. Democrats thought they were primed to win back the House and hold onto the Senate, but neither happened even though the economy was sputtering. Why? Voters approved of the job GWB was doing and rewarded Republicans. I remember James Carville putting a garbage can on his head on CNN.

    Lets look at another midterm year, 1990. That was GHWB’s midterm. A lot has changed since 1990 in terms of our politics. The Democrat party then was the dominant party in the House, Senate, and state level. District lines were generally against Republicans and the South had not gone over to Republicans at he House or state level yet. Yet, GHWB had an approval rating well over 60% for much of his first two years and was well over 50% on election day 1990 despite the buildup for the Gulf War. And because of that high approval rating, Republican minimized losses in the House.

    So what’s the common denominator? A president’s approval rating. The higher it is, the better his party does, whether that’s making improbable gains or minimizing the losses. The lower it goes, the worse his party does. Yes, midterms are never peachy for the incumbent party, but the economy we have should be benefitting Trump and Republicans, but it isn’t. Instead, voter dissatisfaction with Trump is turning what probably should have been a minimal loss f 5 or 10 seats into 40 seats.

  270. Robbie says:

    Tim says:
    March 15, 2018 at 11:34 am
    Uh…….Mueller is a Republican, put there by Republicans, and is investigating Republicans. Did I miss something, while I wasn’t posting, here? LOL

    – The only thing you missed is a lot of people have thrown away their integrity to support Trump.

  271. NYCmike says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/24-hours-exposed-trump-strategy-134406110.html

    -This Yahoo piece is comparing the goings-on in a representative republic, and comparing it to what happens in a dictatorship.

    These people are ridiculous.

    When power is transferred in both places in the future, let’s examine how that happens to get a more informative piece.

  272. NYCmike says:

    “– The only thing you missed is a lot of people have thrown away their integrity to support Trump.”

    #HookLine&Sinker

  273. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    March 15, 2018 at 11:37 am
    Tim, why did Mueller hire democrats nearly exclusively, including some with pretty strong dislike for Trump?
    Wouldn’t a little balance increase the credibility of his investigation?

    – I’ll give Sean Hannity and FoxNews credit. They really pushed this and it has taken hold with the Trump base. They haven’t been as successful with Uranium One, but they’re trying hard.

    Why did Mueller appoint the people he did? Because those are the people with whom he most recently worked at the FBI and DoJ. He had a working relationship with them.

    I suppose, though, the most disappointing aspect of this is Trumpers now believe that anyone who is a Democrat or not a Trumper cannot be impartial when investigating Trump or those associated with him.

    Clinton did the same thing to Ken Starr and his staff and it worked as well. A low moment none the less.

  274. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 15, 2018 at 11:41 am
    “– The only thing you missed is a lot of people have thrown away their integrity to support Trump.”
    #HookLine&Sinker

    – HookLine&Sinker is the way you fell head over heels in love with Trump even though you’ve spent last decade claiming to be a conservative purist.

  275. Chicon says:

    275 – 1978 Carter was at 49 JA, and lost 15 seats.

    Clinton was at 48 JA in 1994 and lost 52 seats.

    You’d think they’d be closer if your theory is right.

  276. NYCmike says:

    Never claimed to be a purist…those words are yours and the rest of people like you……the ones who take their ball and go home

  277. NYCmike says:

    I do claim that Democrats can’t be trusted. Never trust them!

  278. Chicon says:

    279 – anyone with a brain knows that it is politically unwise to do what he did. A bipartisan team gives credibility no matter which way the decision goes. If E charges someone with a serious crime, he has given Trump’s people and supporters ammunition he didn’t have to give.

    To think that this thought wouldn’t enter the mind of a politically astute person like Mueller is naive.

  279. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    March 15, 2018 at 11:49 am
    275 – 1978 Carter was at 49 JA, and lost 15 seats.
    Clinton was at 48 JA in 1994 and lost 52 seats.
    You’d think they’d be closer if your theory is right.

    – What was the economy doing in those years? Neither was very good or, at least, perceived to be good.

  280. Chicon says:

    Conservative purists are aka deadenders.

  281. Chicon says:

    1978, the era of stagflation and the great malaise speech….

  282. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 15, 2018 at 11:53 am
    Never claimed to be a purist…those words are yours and the rest of people like you……the ones who take their ball and go home

    – You just support candidates like Angle, Buck, COD, Mourdock, McDaniel, and the others who cost the party easily winnable senate seats.

  283. Robbie says:

    The fact remains. The economy is doing extremely well right now and all Trump had to do over the last year was allow it to work for him. Had he done so as Clinton did in 1998, there’d be ZERO talk about Republicans losing the House. Instead, here we are.

  284. NYCmike says:

    “I suppose, though, the most disappointing aspect of this is Trumpers now believe that anyone who is a Democrat or not a Trumper cannot be impartial when investigating Trump or those associated with him.”

    -Robbie,

    Were you alive during the Clinton and Obama years?

    Did you see how George W Bush, and people in his administration, were treated by the media and by supposedly impartial investigators?

    Bush could have gotten away with Fast & Furious? With the IRS scandal? With the Benghazi episode?

  285. NYCmike says:

    “– You just support candidates like Angle, Buck, COD, Mourdock, McDaniel, and the others who cost the party easily winnable senate seats.”

    -It is very odd how you never mention that those candidates were able to convince a large enough % of the Republican primary electorate to vote for them…….SHOULD WE GET RID OF THE PRIMARY SYSTEM?

    Speak about this with Wes, and let me know what decision you come up with.

  286. NYCmike says:

    “Conservative purists are aka deadenders.”

    -Bush-purists are aka “those who would have been fine with a Madame President Hillary.

  287. Phil says:

    “I suppose though the most disappointing aspect of this is Trumpers now believe that anyone who is a Democrat or not a Trumper cannot be impartial….

    That’s because we haven’t seen one yet, Robbie. You seen any?

    Quit shoveling that crap. Text messages from our “impartial” FBI characters? Read any of those? Impartial. How about those love birds? The guy who interviewed Flynn? Read his text messages….but you’ve seen them. Admit it. You just don’t care and we get it….but just don’t give us this “impartial” baloney. It won’t fly.

    If you were being investigated for something, would you want these “impartials” investigating you?

    Of course not.

  288. Chicon says:

    I’ve showed some electoral facts to support the theory that lost seats are almost a given in November, and a decent possibility of losing the House is there.

    No matter the outcome, Robbie says any other Republican would have done better. Of course, that presupposes that another Republican would have beaten Hillary. Nonetheless, how will Robbie measure the “Trump Effect”?

  289. Chicon says:

    One theory I like is that Clinton and Obama had outsized losses of seats because they were personally liked, but the public didn’t like the policies. So, when the likeable president isn’t on the ballot, the party takes a beating.

    People don’t like Trump, but tend to like policies. How will it affect things?

  290. Robbie says:

    I don’t share Sean Trende’s extremely negative view on the Mississippi race for Thad Cochran’s seat right now. That said, anyone who doesn’t think an idiot like Chris McDaniel can’t screw up a safe Senate seat hasn’t been paying attention. Alabama, anyone?

    Sean T at RCP
    ?@SeanTrende

    FWIW, McDaniel getting into the open race in MS wasn’t the first step to them losing th seat. Espy getting in probably was. He will raise a ton of cash and has a good chance to energize African American turnout.

  291. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    March 15, 2018 at 12:17 pm
    “I suppose though the most disappointing aspect of this is Trumpers now believe that anyone who is a Democrat or not a Trumper cannot be impartial….
    That’s because we haven’t seen one yet, Robbie. You seen any?
    Quit shoveling that crap. Text messages from our “impartial” FBI characters? Read any of those? Impartial. How about those love birds? The guy who interviewed Flynn? Read his text messages….but you’ve seen them. Admit it. You just don’t care and we get it….but just don’t give us this “impartial” baloney. It won’t fly.
    If you were being investigated for something, would you want these “impartials” investigating you?
    Of course not.

    – “Quit shoveling that crap” says the guy who has yapped for the last eight months about a silent coup.

  292. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    March 15, 2018 at 12:29 pm
    I’ve showed some electoral facts to support the theory that lost seats are almost a given in November, and a decent possibility of losing the House is there.
    No matter the outcome, Robbie says any other Republican would have done better. Of course, that presupposes that another Republican would have beaten Hillary. Nonetheless, how will Robbie measure the “Trump Effect”?

    – This is garbage. Just months ago, any talk that Republicans could be in trouble in the House was treated as crazy talk in this forum. Now, the pro-Trump faction has moved from “nothing to worry about” to “losses were always going to happen, it’s not Trump’s fault”. Quite a shift.

    Again, I have never said losses in the House shouldn’t happen. What I have said, repeatedly, is Trump’s behavior is overshadowing the positive economy and turning what should have been minimal losses into a bloodbath. It’s very rare a president can run a midterm election with such a good economy and Trump is squandering it.

    Honestly, it just blows my mind that people who claim to be avid political watchers think what’s happening to the party’s standing would be happening under other Republican presidents. That’s simply not the case.

    Trump has put the House and the Senate in danger of switching to control by the Democrats precisely because of his behavior and nothing else. If you think Rubio, Christie, Kasich, Jeb, Romney, Cruz or any other Republican would have spent their first year rage tweeting, being burdened by the Russia investigation, or a revolving door of staff turnover and chaos then I have no idea what to say to you.

  293. MichiganGuy says:

    CCC

  294. NYCmike says:

    “– This is garbage. Just months ago, any talk that Republicans could be in trouble in the House was treated as crazy talk in this forum.”

    -ACTUALLY, months ago, Chicon himself established, along with help from you and other posters, that the average loss for ANY President is usually between 20-30 seats……..NOBODY here treated the loss of the House as “crazy talk”.

    BUT, you are seen as CRAZY, because of your DOOM & GLOOM attitude about Trump, along with the fact that anything the media reports you eat it up like its your last meal.

  295. Messy57 says:

    missed it, damn!

  296. Robbie says:

    In the days that followed Trump’s election, political prognosticators of all stripes mentioned two things about what his win meant for 2018. First, the House was safe and Republicans were in great position to dominate redistricting after the 2020 census. Second, the Republicans were in great shape to approach 60 Senate seats due to the favorable map in 2018.

    Fast forward 16 months and now most believe the House is close to gone and Republicans could potentially be in danger of losing the Senate. How might happen? Lose AZ, NV, and see McDaniel blow Cochran’s seat. On top of that, McCain passes away and Democrats win that seat in November as well.

    So how did we go from “Republicans are looking for their own 1934 style win” in the days after 2016 to “losses are inevitable”. Did the economy go south? Nope. In fact, it’s as strong as it’s been since the late 1990’s. Is there a war that’s gone badly? Nope. In fact, ISIS is on the verge of total defeat.

    On the other hand, what we have had is 16 months of chaotic and erratic governance from Trump. He tweets like a 14 year old boy who’s been dumped for the first time in his life; he’s had a revolving door of staff departures; he has been plagued by personal scandal whether it be Russia or Stormy Daniels.

  297. Messy57 says:

    273. Considering what the Republicans in the House and administration were doing, they would be complaining whoever he picked.

    The Treasury department finally imposed the sanctions on Russia. I guess the administration finally had enough what with the double murder and all….

  298. Messy57 says:

    I mean, double attempted murder. I know how some here are grammer nazis.

  299. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 15, 2018 at 1:09 pm
    “– This is garbage. Just months ago, any talk that Republicans could be in trouble in the House was treated as crazy talk in this forum.”
    -ACTUALLY, months ago, Chicon himself established, along with help from you and other posters, that the average loss for ANY President is usually between 20-30 seats……..NOBODY here treated the loss of the House as “crazy talk”.
    BUT, you are seen as CRAZY, because of your DOOM & GLOOM attitude about Trump, along with the fact that anything the media reports you eat it up like its your last meal.

    – I have a doom and gloom attitude with Trump because he has been nothing but bad news for the Republican Party since he was sworn in to office, or have you been ignoring the news and the polling? And of by the way, Trump’s not a real Republican now is he a real conservative either.

    Also, lets get a few facts straight about midterm losses. First, using data from the 1980’s and earlier is a waste of time. The country’s political and ethic makeup has drastically changed. Second, the midterms that featured big losses recently featured two things. A bad economy that led to a low approval rating for the president.

    In 2018, we don’t have a bad economy. We have a great economy. That, by itself, should be all Trump needed to have an extremely successful midterm result. Instead, he opened his mouth and tweeted his way to the most unpopular first year president in the polling era.

    Average losses of 20-30 seats were never inevitable, but they are being used now by Trump supporters as way to say he’s not responsible for the sorry shape of the party. Wrong. He’s 100% responsible for the shape of the party. Everything Trump touches dies. Had they sowed his mouth shut on Day 1 and broken his fingers so he couldn’t tweet, he’s have a 50% or better approval rating and Republicans would be speculating about breaking even or even gaining a seat or two in the House and approaching 60 seats in the Senate.

  300. Robbie says:

    Messy57 says:
    March 15, 2018 at 1:21 pm
    273. Considering what the Republicans in the House and administration were doing, they would be complaining whoever he picked.

    – 100% TRUE. Trump and his associates were never going to be happy with anyone hired to investigate him unless it was his personal lawyer Michael Cohen or Sean Hannity.

    Much like the Clinton team in 1998, they looked for some aspect of the Mueller team to exploit and they settled on this. At least for the Trump loyalists, it worked.

  301. Phil says:

    298

    Care to address my thoughts about our “impartials” in the FBI or would you just like to let those text messages slide. Impartial my ass.

  302. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    306. “Everything Trump touches dies.”

    Actually the economy is doing quite well. In fact you admitted we have a great economy. He has also done an excellent job at getting rid of a lot of worthless regulations. These are issues that matter.

    In 2020, The Democrats are likely to nominate a candidate with views similar to Bernie Sanders. So the choice is clear. Of course, Hillary is in there pushing for her political comeback.

    So Robbie, if its Trump versus Hillary Clinton in 2020, which one would you support?

  303. NYCmike says:

    ” Did the economy go south? Nope. In fact, it’s as strong as it’s been since the late 1990’s. Is there a war that’s gone badly? Nope. In fact, ISIS is on the verge of total defeat.”

    -Looks like I made a good decision in Nov 2016 to vote for the current President.

    How about you, Robbie?

  304. Phil says:

    Matt Damon moving family to Australia because of Trump.

    That will show us, Matt.

    Now if we could just get Sean Penn and Danny Glover to move to their worker’s paradise, Venezuela….. Come on guys. Quit fooling around. Do it!

  305. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    306. Now Robbie if the Democrats want to nominate Connor Lamb for President, who supports a reasonable energy policy, is a Second Amendment advocate, and does not like Pelosi. He might get my vote. Somehow I don’t think its gonna happen.

  306. Chicon says:

    Robbie’s belief is that people will vote against their own policy beliefs and pocketbooks because they have a personal disdain for Trump. That they’ll SEND A MESSAGE.

    Could be true. Could be false. We’ll see. I keep asking how he’ll be able to identify the number of seats another Republican president would have won or lost. So far…..nothing.

  307. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (AP) — Security video shows a Florida sheriff’s deputy going toward the high school building while a gunman massacred 17 students and staff members, but he then backed away and stayed outside with his handgun drawn.

    The Broward County Sheriff’s Office released the video Thursday showing Deputy Scot Peterson’s actions during the Feb. 14 shooting. It shows him and two staff members rushing in a cart toward the three-story freshman building where the shootings happened. When they arrive, Peterson pulls his weapon and goes forward but then retreats and takes up a position outside the building.

    During most of the six minutes of shooting, the camera’s view of Peterson is blocked by a light pole but parts of him occasionally appear. He never went inside. There is no sound on the video.

    About 11 minutes after the 19-year-old suspect Nikolas Cruz began shooting, the video shows a glimpse of Coral Springs police officers who have arrived at the school rushing toward the building. By then, Cruz had fled. He was arrested an hour later about a mile from the school.

    Sheriff Scott Israel blasted Peterson eight days after the shooting, saying the deputy should have entered the building immediately, “addressed the killer, killed the killer.”

    The 54-year-old deputy retired rather than accept a suspension. He is still being investigated by internal affairs.

    Peterson has denied wrongdoing. In a statement issued through his lawyer shortly after his retirement, he said he thought the shots were being fired from outside the school.

    But in radio transmissions released last week it appears the 32-year veteran deputy knew almost immediately the shots were coming from inside the freshman building.

    Peterson’s attorney, Joseph DiRuzzo, did not return a call and email Thursday seeking comment.

    John Bostain, an independent police trainer, reviewed the video at the request of The Associated Press. He said it confirms that Peterson should have entered the building: that is an almost-universal response in police training after the 1999 Columbine High and 2012 Sandy Hook school shootings. He said the question is why he didn’t: was it because of Peterson’s individual character or something about the culture in the Broward Sheriff’s Office that made him avoid a deadly force situation?

    The sheriff’s office has said Peterson underwent active shooter training in 2016 where he was taught to confront and take down the suspect. The sheriff’s office said in a statement Thursday, “The video speaks for itself.”

    This was similar to what happened at the Pulse Nightclub:

    “Instead of pressing forward terrorist continued to take lives and victim after victim slowly succumbed to their injuries while on the phone with dispatchers, a SWAT commander and police chief clearly out of their depth ignored both the most common active shooter protocols and those developed worldwide in the wake of Beslan, Mumbai, and Nairobi. They instead “negotiated” with a terrorist who was merely stalling for time to kill more victims and better fortify his position, even as they had victims literally dying on the phone, crying for help from dispatchers.

    It’s my sincere desire that other agencies will learn from the obvious law enforcement failures in Orlando and focus on getting both SWAT and patrol officersbetter trained to aggressively deal with active shooters and put them down as quickly as possible.”

  308. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Survey: 76% of Police Chiefs Say Armed Citizens ‘REDUCE’ Violent Crime

    Craig Bannister | July 13, 2016 2:23pm ET

    While liberals call for more gun control to stop violence, three-fourths (76%) of the nation’s police chiefs and sheriffs say armed citizens actually “reduce violent criminal activity,” the 28th Annual Survey by the National Association of Chiefs of Police shows.
    Asked, “Can qualified, law-abiding armed citizens help law enforcement reduce violent criminal activity?” while under one in five disagreed:
    Yes: 76.0%
    No: 18.6%
    N/A: 5.4%

    Fully 87.9% say “any vetted citizen” should “be able to purchase a firearm for sport or self-defense,” while only 8.9% said “No” and 3.2% replied “N/A.”
    What’s more, nearly one in five (18.0%) police departments actually help put guns in the hands of Americans by selling the firearms they confiscate.
    U.S. police departments also overwhelming “support nationwide recognition of state issued concealed weapon permits”:
    Yes: 86.4%
    No: 10.6%
    N/A: 2.9%

  309. MichiganGuy says:

    Fox News Channel Signs Shep Smith To Multi-Year Deal
    .
    http://deadline.com/2018/03/shep-smith-new-contract-fox-news-channel-multi-year-deal-1202338524/
    —————————————————————————————–

  310. MichiganGuy says:

    I was hoping he would go to cnn or hang out with megyn kelly.

  311. Chicon says:

    316 – Robbie is a bigger fan of Trump than is Shep.

  312. NYCmike says:

    There is a video on that bridge collapse link – a bunch of kids are politiely speaking about the situation – not sure why I am so pissed off about their reaction – acting almost like it is just another part of the day.

  313. jason says:

    I don’t thinks so…

    “FIU students, faculty and staff joined Sweetwater residents and the bridge builders to watch the bridge move and create a safer pedestrian route to connect the campus community to its neighbors.

    “FIU is about building bridges and student safety. This project accomplishes our mission beautifully,” said FIU President Mark B. Rosenberg. “We are filled with pride and satisfaction at seeing this engineering feat come to life and connect our campus to the surrounding community where thousands of our students live.”

    Using an innovative approach to bridge construction, the main span, which weighs 950 tons, was built next to Southwest 8th Street.”

  314. Chicon says:

    321 – oh, man…innovative doesn’t sound good here.

  315. Bitterlaw says:

    Villanova looks good so far. Of course, is a 25 point lead ever safe in March Madness.

  316. Tina says:

    Faux news getting botton of the barrel types.

    Fox business is better imo.

    But i do not have cable.

  317. Tina says:

    JUST IN- @ChuckGrassley & @LindseyGrahamSC send letter today to Sessions requesting a Special Counsel be appointed to work with IG Horowitz to investigate DOJ improprieties, including the handling of @GenFlynn investigation & “other matters”
    (link: https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/2018-03-15%20CEG%20LG%20JC%20TT%20to%20AG%20DAG%20(Special%20Counsel).pdf) judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/…

    Lol, i think doin nuffin sessions has appointed somebosy.

  318. Tina says:

    Paul Joseph Watson
    @PrisonPlanet
    Hillary Clinton has always been in perfect health.

    Any claims to the contrary are outrageous “conspiracy theories”.

    Meanwhile, Donald Trump is sick & deranged despite being proven completely

    I agree.

    Signed, jebot

  319. Tina says:

    Conversation
    Josh Caplan
    Josh Caplan
    @joshdcaplan
    Acting FBI deputy director David Bowdich reveals the Obama DOJ forced the deletion of 500,000 fugitives from the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.

    A majority likely illegal.

  320. Tina says:

    Former fbi official tells sessions not to fire clinton mccabe.

    Gee, who is this unnamed, former official?

    Mukehead?

    Comedy?

    What swamp creature?

  321. Gpo says:

    A source close to multiple senior White House officials has exclusively told the Gateway Pundit that massive layoffs within the Trump administration are slated to hit tomorrow.

  322. MichiganGuy says:

    Is this even legal? How can an #IllegalAlien hold office?
    .
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/03/15/california-appoints-illegal-alien-state-office/
    🙁

  323. MichiganGuy says:

    “President Trump has decided to remove H.R. McMaster as his national security adviser and is actively discussing potential replacements, according to five people with knowledge of the plans.”
    .
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-decides-to-remove-national-security-adviser-and-others-may-follow/ar-BBKh907?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

  324. Bitterlaw says:

    I have not been offered a Cabinet position. Yet.

  325. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Hannity reporting mccabe to be fired tomorrow and charged with multiole criminal offenses.

  326. NYCmike says:

    The mainstream media is, in my opinion, an appendage of the Democratic Party. They do not investigate wrongdoing in government. They report what their “sources” say, and then find any shreds of circumstantial evidence to back up that information, always with the implication that it is a “serious offense” and “illegal”. I can only hope that Trump, Congressional Republicans, and enough voters continue to see the bias inherent in their reporting.

  327. NYCmike says:

    “Is this even legal? How can an #IllegalAlien hold office?”

    -Because too many people think Trump’s remarks about Mika’s face are more serious infractions.

  328. Phil says:

    Hillary fractures wrist in bath tub fall in India.

    Not only the worst politician in history but also clumsy as hell……although my guess is she has an underlying condition causing these falls and stumbles.

  329. Phil says:

    Hillary fractures wrist in bath tub fall in India.

    Not only the worst politician in history but also clumsy as hell……although my guess is she has an underlying condition causing these falls and stumbles.

  330. MichiganGuy says:

    BOMBSHELL: Obama’s DOJ Forced Deletion Of 500,000 Fugitives From Gun Background Check System.
    .
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/28317/bombshell-obamas-doj-forced-deletion-500000-ryan-saavedra

  331. MichiganGuy says:

    Conor Lamb, Rick Saccone to run again in November in new and different congressional districts.
    .
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/conor-lamb-rick-saccone-run-november-congressional-districts/story?id=53782730

  332. Tgca says:

    I nominate Bitter for AG once we get rid of timid AG Sessions. I also nominate myself for any position where I can do nothing and get paid a min of $175K and accrue a ridiculous retirement and pension benefits only after a few years of work doing nothing.

  333. Cash Cow TM says:

    NEWS IN NUMBERS

    7,000
    FEBRUARY 8, 2018
    People in Washington state who aren’t registered to vote because of a software glitch at the Department of Licensing. After realizing that, election officials are rushing to send them ballots before the state’s Feb. 13 special election.
    Source: Tribune News Service
    _________________________
    93,000 pounds
    FEBRUARY 13, 2018
    Mardi Gras beads found in New Orleans’ storm drains when crews cleaned them after heavy floods last summer.
    Source: NPR
    ______________
    $190,000
    FEBRUARY 15, 2018
    First royalty check the state of California received from investing $2.75 billion in stem cell research.
    Source: The San Francisco Chronicle
    ___________________
    Zero
    FEBRUARY 22, 2018
    Number of investigators in seven states who handle minimum-wage violations. Another 26 states each have fewer than 10 such investigators.
    Source: Politico
    __________________
    $2 billion
    MARCH 5, 2018
    Worth of a bond that California lawmakers approved back in 2016 to help finance new housing for the homeless. Not a penny has been spent as the issue of how the debt will be repaid plays out in court.
    Source: the Los Angeles Times
    __________________
    $5,000
    MARCH 9, 2018
    Donation from U.S. Sen. Elizabeth Warren to each state’s Democratic Party.
    Source: Politico
    ________________________
    6 months
    MARCH 8, 2018
    Maximum jail sentence for restaurant workers who provide customers with an unwanted straw, according to a bill introduced in California. The bill’s sponsor, Ian Calderon, said it was a drafting error.
    Source: Fortune
    ______________________

  334. Tina says:

    Mikas face.

    It is mexifornia, It is their land.

    Bush said so.

  335. Tina says:

    Please do not mock hillary or hogg.

  336. Tina says:

    MCmaster going, mcmaster staying.

    Per john robers.

    These media hacks are chasing shadows.

  337. Gpo says:

    The leaks are real; the news is fake. That’s the underlying dynamic behind ‘Black Hat Hunting’.

    The PR Firm for the corrupt U.S. intelligence apparatus known as The Washington Post, runs a story about H.R. McMaster being fired tonight.

    The Washington Post quotes “five people with knowledge of the plans”.

    Except there’s a problem, there are no plans.

    No plans except to entrap staff and intelligence community leakers; likely those five ‘leakers’ are in/around the National Security Council, and they just got caught.

  338. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    So the outcome of the special congressional elections for vacant Republican seats since Trump was elected: Five Republicans were elected, and one fake Republican who campaigned against Pelosi was elected. This is supposed to be a sign that a huge blue wave is coming in the midterm elections.

  339. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Whatever the clumsiness of Hillary Clinton’s trip to India; it is nowhere near the disaster that was Justin Trudeau’s recent trip:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5421779/Justin-Trudeau-ridiculed-Indians-fake-outfits.html

    “Trudeau’s blunder-filled India trip sinks Liberals in the polls. The most telling statistic was that Trudeau’s personal popularity has dipped from 47 per cent to 39 per cent in the last month, just as negative impressions have grown”

  340. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Looks like the Lamb victory has the leftists concerned as much as the Republicans:

    “Meanwhile in the real world, even liberal Rolling Stone is declaring it a win for Trump.”

    Rolling Stone article quote:

    “Why Democrats Should Worry About Conor Lamb’s Victory

    Dems pick up a House seat in Pennsylvania – but is Lamb the start of a winning strategy or the establishment sidelining the Trump Resistance?
    Lamb, for all his fresh-faced charm, ran and won as a Trump Democrat – a flashback to the “Republican Lite” candidacies the Democrats specialized in during the Clinton ’90s and ’00s. He was so reluctant to criticize the president that NBC reporter Kacie Hunt made it her mission on Tuesday to ask him about Trump and try to extract something. Lamb wouldn’t rise to the bait:

    “Just try getting this guy to say anything critical of Trump,” Hunt marveled on MSNBC. An equally mystified Guardian reporter noted, accurately, that “Lamb has been almost painfully non-controversial.” In a rally over the weekend in a rural corner of the district, the president of the United Mine Workers, Cecil Roberts, summed up the reasons why white people were about to vote for a Democrat here, hailing Lamb as “a God-fearing, union-supporting, gun-owning, job-protecting, pension-defending, Social Security-believing, sending-drug-dealers-to-jail Democrat.”

  341. Tina says:

    Kyle Kashuv
    Kyle Kashuv
    @KyleKashuv
    ·
    4h
    Despite requests from @timkaine, @LindseyGrahamSC, @senorrinhatch, @marcorubio and other Senators, @SenateMajLdr has declined to offer me 5 minutes via the phone.

    It is honestly hurtful that the Leader of my party, who I’ve thought of as compassionate, can’t talk at all. Sad!

    Mitchie is an idiot.

  342. MichiganGuy says:

    Fake News strikes again.
    .
    Just spoke to @POTUS and Gen. H.R. McMaster – contrary to reports they have a good working relationship and there are no changes at the NSC.
    .
    https://twitter.com/PressSec/status/974468508074565632?s=19

  343. MichiganGuy says:

    * BOOM *
    .
    New Jersey
    .
    What is your favorite major league baseball
    team?
    .
    New
    York YANKEES 47%
    Phila. PHILLIES 20
    New York METS 18
    Boston RED SOX 3
    Los Angeles DODGERS 2
    St. Louis CARDINALS 2
    Atlanta BRAVES 1
    Baltimore ORIOLES 1
    Chicago CUBS 1
    Detroit TIGERS 1
    .
    Quinnipiac University New Jersey Baseball Poll
    .
    https://poll.qu.edu/images/polling/nj/nj03142018_nfkc79.pdf/
    .
    Bitterlaw hardest hit.
    .
    Ok, I’m just really bored.
    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  344. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzz. I am surprised the Mets have that many fans. I grew up in New Jersey. I did not know any Mets fans there before 1986 (when they won the WS). I remember coming home from college in the fall of 1986 and thinking, “Where did all these Mets hats come from.”

  345. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5506309/Stormy-Daniels-father-says-killed-speaking-out.html

    Hmmmmm. Maybe he should also be embarrassed that his daughter grew up to be a p0rn star. If your daughter grows up to be a stripper, hooker, or p0rn star, you sucked as a dad.

  346. Messy57 says:

    336. She’s not the president. She’s a retired first lady. No one cared when Bess Truman hurt herself except Margret and her grandkids.

    no one said “ha-HA!!!!” Unless she runs for President again, leave her alone.

  347. Messy57 says:

    347. The difference is: Trudeau is the sitting Prime Minister of a country, while Hillary is a retiree on vacation.

    I know that memories are long. People had been screaming about Benjamin Harrison well into the 1920s, But unless Hillary starts campaigning for Democrats in the fall and makes whiney speeches, forget about her.

  348. GPO says:

    Messy57 says:

    March 16, 2018 at 9:08 am

    336. She’s not the president. She’s a retired first lady. No one cared when Bess Truman hurt herself except Margret and her grandkids.

    She just spent a day bashing Trump voters overseas- we’ll leave her alone when she goes quietly into private life. Apparently she cant go 5 minutes without insulting the half of America that didn’t vote for her

  349. Phil says:

    Leave Hillary alone? Sure, but people would be much more inclined to do so IF she would quit moaning about the election and quit saying stupid stuff about those that voted against her.

    In short, she needs to just go quietly into the night and most would be happy to just let her do that. Instead she continues to throw insults at those that opposed her.

    Stop it, Hillary. You are embarrassing yourself.

  350. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #352- Cretin
    Not until she goes gently into the political night and apologizes to the Nation for ALL her transgressions.
    When Bush43 vacated the White House, Obama and his ilk like you never “left him alone”.
    In addition to being as dumb as a doorknob, you are an emotional snowflake!

  351. Tina says:

    Yes, leave Hillary and hogg alone.

    Muh russian is true,

    Messy Lsd.

  352. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    RIP to NYS Democrat Congresswoman Louise Slaughter,88. She seemed like a nice woman.
    Any chance to get her old seat in November?

  353. NYCmike says:

    “336. She’s not the president. She’s a retired first lady.”

    -Hillary is a nasty piece of work, who continues to use her former experience as First Lady, Senator, and Secretary of State to travel the world and speak badly about the responsible United States citizens who voted for her opponent.

    She would be much safer in jail, away from her booze, and wearing non-slip shoes.

  354. Tina says:

    The hate speech involving hillary is spiteful.

    Jebot

  355. Tina says:

    Rino flake is losing it.

    Bye bye 18%,

    Run as a drat for president.

  356. Bitterlaw says:

    Why waste any time on reading about or following Hillary? She criticizes Trump voters? Zzzzzzzzzz. At least 100 million other Americans do, too. I’m not interested in them, either.

  357. Chicon says:

    Bitter, back when he was middle aged, Walt like a little strange once in awhile.

  358. Bitterlaw says:

    When Walt was middle-aged there was no other life on Earth. He was happy when the single-celled creatures appeared.

  359. Tina says:

    Sara Carter broke the story on pete the cheat and the fisa judge, who happened to be removed from the flynn case, and replaced by that nee judge.

    Comtreras was removed and should be thrown off fisa.

    https://saraacarter.com/explosive-text-messages-reveal-judge-in-flynn-case-was-friends-with-strzok/

  360. Tina says:

    ut on Dec. 7, without warning, Judge Rudolph Contreras was removed as the presiding judge on Flynn’s case. Little information was given at the time as to why Contreras was removed.

  361. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    ?
    @realDonaldTrump
    It would be great for the Republican Party of Nevada, and it’s unity if good guy Danny Tarkanian would run for Congress and Dean Heller, who is doing a really good job, could run for Senate unopposed!
    9:27 AM – Mar 16, 2018

  362. Tina says:

    Judge Contreras was appointed bynthe ibumbler.

  363. Chicon says:

    371 – Robbie’s gonna hate that tweet because he’ll agree completely. He gets clay if he has to agree with Trump.

  364. Chicon says:

    Clammy, not clay…

  365. Chicon says:

    Has the mass departure happened yet?

  366. NYCmike says:

    “371 – Robbie’s gonna hate that tweet because he’ll agree completely. He gets clay if he has to agree with Trump.”

    -Robbie doesn’t like Trump tweeting…….Robbie must be a Tark fan.

  367. Tina says:

    I always thiught that heller and trump liked each other,

    In contrast to mr 18%, flakey.

  368. Tina says:

    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/former-fbi-assistant-director-confident-inspector-general-report-filled-pure-tnt-video/

    Oh, i am sure it is explosive. I am sure that it is not about mccabe laking something harmful to the jebots, hillary.

  369. DW says:

    Let the record show that a few weeks ago I gave NCAA bracket advice to pick BUFFALO as your Cinderella team. You were warned.

  370. Tina says:

    https://t.co/JwBKIDaENR?amp=1

    Pete and judge contreras had personal relationship.

    This is like a turd world action.

  371. DW says:

    What’s funny too is NONE of the experts picked Buffalo to beat Arizona, because they spent all their time talking about how Arizona has the top lottery pick, and could be in the final four.

    After Buffalo blew them out last night, the experts lamented that Arizona struggled with perimeter defense all year. Yeah, and Buffalo excelled at perimeter offense all year. Why didn’t they mention this before people filled out their brackets?

    I saw this one coming big time. Arizona believed all the hype about them and were prepping for Kentucky instead of Buffalo. Now they can prep their popcorn for watching Buffalo play Kentucky.

  372. NYCmike says:

    https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2018/03/12/why-democrats-would-lose-the-second-civil-war-too-n2459833

    -I like the last line of this paragraph.

    “A red counter-insurgency avoids the problem of a decentralized insurgency and insecure logistical lines. In the case of California, whose secessionist antics are approaching the point where President Trump could legitimately employ his power to crush insurrections, the tactical problem is relatively simple. For example, San Francisco is a hotbed of treason, but the populace is largely unarmed and is trapped in a confined area. You put a brigade on securing the Golden Gate and Bay Bridges, then put a brigade on the San Francisco Peninsula to cut off the I-280 and US-101 corridors. Next you go to the Crystal Springs Dam and cut off the water. Then you watch and wait as the tech hipsters run out of artisanal sushi rice and kombucha.”

  373. GPO says:

    DW says:

    March 16, 2018 at 2:59 pm

    Let the record show that a few weeks ago I gave NCAA bracket advice to pick BUFFALO as your Cinderella team. You were warned.

    you did indeed! nice call- how far do u have them going

  374. DW says:

    383 – they were done wrong by the committee because Arizona could have been a 3 seed instead of 4, and Buffalo should have been a 12 seed. So when I filled out my bracket I was thinking wow, Buffalo has to beat Arizona, Kentucky, and then Virginia. My thought was if they could get past Arizona, then they could beat Kentucky and then take Virginia down to the last bucket.

    That would be an awesome game, Buffalo against Virginia. The best defense in the country against one of the best offenses.

    So I think they will beat Kentucky, and Virginia will come down to the last bucket either way.

    I also mentioned I personally know the coach of Buffalo.

  375. mnw says:

    Oh great. Saccone running again. Because we all admire what he did the first time, don’t we?

    Uh… we don’t, you say? Huh.

  376. mnw says:

    I don’t know whether it was previously posted or not, but Tarkanian has dropped out of NV Sen primary.

    When Heller loses, he & his admirers here will have to find some other deadender to scapegoat.

  377. Wes says:

    That assumes Heller loses. Tark was his biggest stumbling block to reelection. Now Heller–a proven votegetter in the state who overcame Obama’s coattails in 2012–can breathe easily and focus on reelection.

    That’s an immense boon to him in what would otherwise have been a daunting reelection bid.

    Roy Moore did some good after all, obliterating the Bannon kamikaze operation.

  378. Wes says:

    Since Moore became the Alabama Hindenburgh, we’ve seen the following:

    Ward fall behind McSally in the primary and attract another loon to split the crazy vote.

    McDaniel give up his suicidal challenge to Wicker.

    And now…

    Tark see Mene mene techel upharsin on the wall and drop down to try to lose a lesser race to the Dems.

    All thanks to the only person capable of losing a Senate race in Alabama to the Dems.

    All in all, a great turn of events ever since Steve Bannon proved he is no Mark Hanna.

  379. Phil says:

    I agree. As I said yesterday the only good to come out of Alabama was the sinking of the USS Bannon. We now have a solid shot at holding Arizona and Nevada. Wouldn’t that be a nice turn of events.

  380. Tina says:

    Judge contreras, who was removed from the flynn case, after accepting the guilty plea of flynn, turns out be buddies with Eric Holder, a real thrashy person.

  381. Tina says:

    I think nv is safe to stay with heller. He and teump seem to like each other.

    I do not support tark in this race, he should take a lesser office.

  382. mnw says:

    Tina

    Tarkanian withdrew & is running for a House seat now.

  383. Gpo says:

    I saw trump tweeted earlier that it would be great if Tarkanian dropped out – guess he realizes no path without trumps support

  384. Michael says:

    Tarkanian needs to go away completely not ruin our House chances.

  385. NYCmike says:

    Michael,

    Do/did you know the “Straw” that broke the camel’s back?

  386. Tina says:

    Thanks wes. Been busy on pete the cheat, the mistress, the obama judge, mccabe, and muh russian.

  387. Tina says:

    Whoops, thanks, mnw.

  388. Tina says:

    More Hogg, more Pete the Cheat, more mistresses, more comedy and mccabe, and my life will be even greater.

  389. Chicon says:

    Mike, Bitter is a live and let live conservative. Maybe he’s got Libertarian tendencies.

  390. Chicon says:

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  391. NYCmike says:

    Chicon,

    I hear ya.

    I feel like cr*p, so trying to spread it to Bitter…..I figured he would appreciate that.

  392. NYCmike says:

    I would like to know if McCabe is going to get his pension or not.

  393. mnw says:

    I think from now on, the GOP should only nominate GOPe candidates who have “100% Chamber of Commerce approved!” branded on their buttocks.

    To hell with them deadender social conservatives! Who needs THEM?

    President McCain
    President Romney
    President Jeb

  394. Chicon says:

    I’m waiting for the massive Cabinet shakeup promised today by the msm.

  395. dblaikie says:

    Fox is reporting that Macabe has been fired. But no one else is reporting it.

  396. Tina says:

    Where is the shake out.

    Wp, a few minutes ago, said that mccmasters was out.

    They, then corrected it and said that trump was thinking about it,

    At least ny slimes, maggie hack, is using five unnamed sources now, every six months since, they add a new one.

  397. Tina says:

    Justice for flynn if mccabe is taken out.

  398. mnw says:

    You guys are awfully bloodthirsty.

  399. jason says:

    I am relieved this suit did not go forward….

    “CAMDEN – A lawsuit seeking the death penalty for 2012 Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and former Gov. Christie Todd Whitman is frivolous and malicious, a federal judge in South Jersey has ruled.

    U.S. District Judge Robert B. Kugler on Thursday dismissed the civil suit filed by a woman who claimed the politicians were among six people “trying to blow up” her Newark apartment building. The woman, Evette Feagin, also claimed the defendants “tried to blow up downtown Newark.”

  400. Senators Buck, Miller, COD, Akin, and Mourdock says:

    Yes, thank you mnw for you support, we would never be where we are without you.

  401. jason says:

    Most Americans smarter than the AFL-CIO conservatives?

    Rasmussen

    Thursday, March 15, 2018

    Most Americans fear that President Trump’s new tariffs on steel and aluminum imports will trigger a trade war and think it’s better for the federal government to mind its own business.

  402. Tina says:

    YES, blood thirsty.

    Firing squad for the mccabe, comedy, pete the cheat, weisman,etc.

  403. Tina says:

    Time for the house rs to defund mulehead.

    Choke the arse off.

  404. Chicon says:

    413 – like you, I hope Trump can accomplish the goals without the tariff sticking around. Our difference is what to do if China refuses to play fair.

  405. mnw says:

    jason

    You forgot “Senator” Cotton, and “Senator Ernst,” among many others.

  406. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Don’t think you can use Rasmussen polling as a basis to say Americans are opposed to tariffs. From January:

    “The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 50% of American Adults believe the federal government should place tariffs on goods from countries that pay very low wages to their workers. Twenty-six percent (26%) oppose tariffs on such goods even though the low wages mean these manufactured items often cost less than comparable American products. One-in-four (24%), however, are undecided,”

  407. Tina says:

    No sessions decision yet.

    Deadline is sunday.

  408. Wes says:

    Cotton was the “Establishment” choice to take out Pryor. Ernst received the backing of Branstad and Grassley against the lunatic Paulbots. Wouldn’t that make her “Establishment” as well?

    Just saying…

  409. Wes says:

    Tark has lost every race he’s been in.

    Hellr has never lost.

    Tark has mammoth ethical financial issues a la Christine O’Donnell.

    Heller has no such known baggage.

    Heller won against the Dems’ anointed candidate when Obama carried the state in 2012.

    It’s easy to see why Trump backed Heller rather than Tark.

  410. Tina says:

    What is going on imo.

    It seems that mccabe was already fired. He is appealing since it is civil service. It is with sesssions.

    I think this what the whole

  411. Tina says:

    Show is about.

  412. Tgca says:

    The Fox News reporting of McCabe being fired is an error that Fox has apologized for. It’s a draft story in case he’s fired.

    I’m not sure Spineless Sessions would fire McCabe even though the recommendation for his lying in an FBI investigation is the routine remedy because Session is too consummed with addressing marijuana use.

    So let me get this straight…or gayly forward…as some in my community (e.g. Michael, Bitter, etc) might prefer. If a normal citizen lies to the FBI, they can be prosecuted and sent to jail but if an FBI employee lies during an internal investigation, they get to retire with full benefits.

    Way to go Sessions! Great leadership.

  413. Tina says:

    If an r lies about doing his r her job, he or she is charged.

    Id its comedy, her thighness, humas, bj, etc., they can lie and its fine,

    Its about intent wink, wink..

  414. Tina says:

    Faux news is really losing it. But that is what happens when you depend on mayhem kelky, geraldine, a never trump soup of the day special, and shep smith

  415. Bitterlaw says:

    Mike, Bitter is a live and let live conservative. Maybe he’s got Libertarian tendencies.

    I am too indifferent to become a Libertarian. They also creep me out a bit. I knew a few who thought it was outrageous that a government would get involved with the age of consent for sex.

  416. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Didn’t you get the memo? If somebody is elected or might be elected, they immediately become members of the Eeeeeeevillllll Establishment.

  417. Tina says:

    Mccabe fired, per wp.

  418. Tina says:

    Conversation
    Washington Post
    Washington Post
    @washingtonpost
    FBI’s Andrew McCabe is fired just before retiring. Former deputy director became lightning rod for Clinton email and Russia probes. (link: http://wapo.st/2G2EPdO) wapo.st/2G2EPdO

    Justice for setting up flynn

  419. Tina says:

    Jenots and drats on the wp site are imploding.

  420. Tina says:

    Both the OIG and FBI OPR reports concluded that Mr. McCabe had made an unauthorized disclosure to the news media and lacked candor ? including under oath ? on multiple occasions.” pic.twitter.com/JqMGv9RgkE
    7:01 PM – Mar 16, 2018
    View image on Twitter

  421. Robbie says:

    Firing McCabe 26 hours before his retirement is yet another unnecessary and unneeded controversy. Trump is burning down the Republican Party one firestorm at a time.

    And by the way, did the Trump shills see that Dear Orange Leader Trump JOINED the lawsuit against Stormy Daniels tonight and is asking for $20 million from her?

    I find Trump suing Stormy to be odd since he spent the last two months telling us, through his press people, that he had no relationship with Stormy and knew nothing about the NDA.

    Now, it seems clear Trump did know about the NDA the whole time which makes clear he had an affair with a porn star.

    In other words, Trump lied. Shocking, I know.

  422. Tina says:

    General FLYnn out campaigning for Omar
    Navarro who is challenging the wig.

  423. Tina says:

    Mccabe melts down as does mslad.

    Epic.

  424. Tina says:

    JUstice for .flynn, mccabe.

    Session hints at criminal violations too.

  425. Tina says:

    Rosie Unmasked ?? Retweeted
    Jack Murphy
    Jack Murphy
    @RealJack
    ·
    22h
    General Flynn’s life was ruined by dirty cop Andrew McCabe’s lies.

    Justice is coming.

  426. Tina says:

    The three responsible for the russian hiax, all terminated.

    Comedy

    Mccabe

    Sjw yates.

    Now, time to charge them criminally.

  427. Tina says:

    Oig and fbi opr determined that mccabe lied several times under oath,

  428. Tina says:

    Clapper is next.

    Leaked dossier to cnn,

    The big ugly begins,
    L

  429. Robbie says:

    In the legal filing in which Dear Orange Leader Trump joined the lawsuit against Stormy Daniels, his thuggish lawyer Michael Cohen referred to the President of the United States as Donald Trump aka David Dennison.

    Congratulations, MAGA morons. You are supporting a moral degenerate.

  430. Tgca says:

    McCabe would have been fired earlier if the IG released its full report earlier. He violated FBI rules and lied during the investigation according to IG. Both the IG and FBI made the recommendation, and it’s consistent with precedent in past firings. This I believe is meant to send a signal to others in DOJ management about playing politics and violating the law and department policies. What’s good for the rank and file should apply to management as well. I think Sessions wanted both IG and FBI to make a solid recommendation before he acted so he can claim he just went with the recommendation.

    The FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility proposed the termination, based on the findings of the Justice Department’s inspector general. That office has been examining the bureau’s handling of the Clinton e-mail investigation. “After an extensive and fair investigation and according to Department of Justice procedure, the Department’s Office of the Inspector General provided its report on allegations of misconduct by Andrew McCabe to the FBI’s Office of Professional Responsibility,” stated Sessions.

  431. Tina says:

    James Comey
    ?
    @Comey
    Special Agent Andrew McCabe stood tall over the last 8 months, when small people were trying to tear down an institution we all depend on. He served with distinction for two decades. I wish Andy well. I also wish continued strength for the rest of the FBI. America needs you.
    6:09 PM – Jan 29, 2018

    This tweet did not age well.

  432. JeffP says:

    Tina…I think this is going to get so bad the fake news MSM will not be able to not cover up all the corruption. Sara Carter is awesome with all this great reporting…The senate and house intelligence committees have sources lining up to spill dirt on Obama era corruption.

  433. JeffP says:

    Trump is no less degenerate than Clinton, Johnson or Kennedy.

  434. Tina says:

    No surprise at the firing.

    Likely included a hatch act violation,

    Campaign8ng for his wire using gubment computer,l
    Dumb.

  435. Tina says:

    I told you the hatch act would do mccabe in, in addition to his apparent lies under oath, which are now a separate criminal matter.

  436. Tina says:

    Jeffp, more is coming out, they still need to deal with ohr, weissman, comedy, sjw yates, oete the cheat, and the mistresss.

    Mccabe also hated flynn,

    The judge now is more likely to free flynn.

  437. JeffP says:

    Tina pass the popcorn.

  438. Tina says:

    Opr and oifg found mccabe lying under oath.

  439. Tgca says:

    I hope they nail all these people using their position to lie and leak. I don’t care if you’re GOP, Dem or Indy. You should be severely punished when abusing your office, especially in the pursuit of harming others. The DOJ has no problem harshly coming down on everyday citizens so they should not excuse their own from similar behavior that destroy others lives.

  440. Robbie says:

    JeffP says:
    March 16, 2018 at 10:59 pm
    Tina…I think this is going to get so bad the fake news MSM will not be able to not cover up all the corruption. Sara Carter is awesome with all this great reporting…The senate and house intelligence committees have sources lining up to spill dirt on Obama era corruption.

    – Sara Carter? LOL! HA! LOL! HA! She’s a clown.

  441. Tina says:

    And this hurts mulehead, whse investigation with all the freaks and leaks, is becoming laiughabke.

  442. Tina says:

    We did not know about mccabes lies under oaths. Now its criminal.

    I could not see how mccabe coukd last given the hatch act violations.

    In federal service, a hatch act violation is the kias of death.

  443. Tina says:

    Mccabe is also useless now ro mulehead s a witness.

    Much like numberg or whatever who went psychotic.

  444. Tina says:

    Mccabe also stated if we phuq flynn, we phuq teump.

    Hasta la vista.

  445. Tina says:

    Damning to mccabe is the insurqnce policy discussion.

    Pete the cheat and the mistress in andys office.

    The insurance policy is and was the fbi investigating the president for muh russian, which now is in the hands of mukehead and his 16 drats.

  446. Tina says:

    Not a good day for the jebots

    Mccabe axed.

    Pete the cheat emails.

    Corrupt fisa judge in cahoots with oete the cheat.

  447. Tina says:

    Brit Hume
    Brit Hume
    @brithume
    ·
    3m
    No sir. You are being singled out because your department’s own Office of Professional Responsibility concluded that you had lied to internal investigators and recommended you be fired what is a recognized firing offense.

  448. Tina says:

    Bill Kristol
    @BillKristol
    What if Sessions hadn’t fired McCabe after the FBI’s OPR recommended it based on the IG report (rightly or wrongly)? Trump would have fired Sessions, and would have had an easy time justifying it to his supporters. So could it be Sessions acted to buy himself & Mueller more time?

    Tweet from the socialist in the Lido .deck.

  449. Tina says:

    novich ??
    @Cernovich
    ·
    1h
    General Flynn served the public.

    McCabe served the Clintons.

    Know the difference.

  450. Tina says:

    Flynn at omar navarro rally

    “I’m not here to complain about how unfairly I’ve been treated. I’m here to talk about the future of this country” – @GenFlynn
    46
    559
    1.5K
    ??MFLYNNJR?? Retweeted
    Jack Posobiec ??
    Jack Posobiec ??
    @JackPosobiec
    ·
    3h
    “What makes us American is our ability to get knocked down, and then get up and get back in the fight” – @GenFlynn

  451. Ron N says:

    19 rank and file FBI agent fired last year for candor. I believe that is what someone said have no problem with him being fired. tired of watch senior personnel just let off and hidden to be able to retire this is a government problem.

  452. NYCmike says:

    Robbie logic, Easter-season-style:

    Lying under oath about abuse of government power – no biggie.

    Sleeping with a porn star as a private citizen – CRUCIFY HIM!

  453. Tina says:

    Sean Davis Retweeted
    Chuck Ross
    Chuck Ross
    @ChuckRossDC
    ·
    1h
    Congrats to Andrew McCabe on his new job at CNN!

    And leaker to the wp.

  454. lisab says:

    JeffP says:
    March 16, 2018 at 10:59 pm
    Tina…I think this is going to get so bad the fake news MSM will not be able to not cover up all the corruption
    ————————————-

    that is a nice pension you should have had coming to you … it would be a shame if something happened to it …

    start writing down names and maybe you won’t lose all of it

  455. MichiganGuy says:

    Arkansas students punished with paddles for walking out: reports.
    .
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/arkansas-students-punished-with-paddles-for-walking-out-reports/ar-BBKjTUb?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
    ————————————————————————————————————————
    That’s what I’m talking about!

  456. Tina says:

    Brit Hume
    Brit Hume
    @brithume
    ·
    12m
    What a crock. To believe this, you have to believe that McCabe did not mislead investigators, but the FBI’s own Office of Professional Responsibility claimed that he did and used that false claim to recommend he be fired. It’s all part of a Trump conspiracy. And I’m Napoleon.
    Max Boot
    @MaxBoot
    The firing of Andrew McCabe is the latest attempt by the Trump administration to undermine the FBI, obstruct justice, and pervert the rule of law. Trump is intent on punishing and intimidating all of the dedicated law enforcement personnel who stand in his way.

    Gosh Hume is slamming the jebots

  457. NYCmike says:

    I said a month or so ago that Max Boot, and one other guy, remind me of “CG” and Robbie.

    Will Robbie speak badly about the FBI’s OPR which recommended this course of action?

  458. Phil says:

    Max thinks Andrew McCabe is a “dedicated law enforcer”

    LOL

    I guess Robbie thinks Brit Hume is a Trumpy too.

    Hardly.

  459. Tina says:

    James A. Gagliano
    James A. Gagliano
    @JamesAGagliano
    ·
    59m
    Re: McCabe firing & federal pension, as I discern retirement provisions for separated FBI employee w/22 years — vested at 10 — under FERS program; 5 U.S. Code § 8312 only specifies you lose the deferred annuity if convicted of treason, sedition, rebellion. HE GETS HIS PENSION.

    He will,not loose his pension.

  460. Tina says:

    Gagliano is a cnn lawyer. Explains it all on his twitter feed,

  461. MichiganGuy says:

    West Virginia Senate – Republican Primary:
    .
    Morrisey 24%
    Blankenship 22%
    Jenkins 17%
    .
    Osage Research/MorriseyWV Internal Poll
    .
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/patrick-morrisey-takes-lead-in-west-virginia-senate-race-blasts-evan-jenkins-for-spreading-junk-polling

  462. Tina says:

    Max Hillary Bootlicker forgets fbi opr and oig made this determination, Also, congress, theough grassley and goober, expressed concerns about mccabe, asking fbi wray to secure all of mccabes emails and records.

  463. Phil says:

    Pay no attention to the FBI’s OBR. A bunch of Trumpy hacks.

  464. Tina says:

    And mccabe kied under oath.

    You know the ig does not place individuals under oath,
    Lthis is the investigator that sessions appointed, that we heard about last week.

    Sessions pick caught mccabe in the lie.

    Where is rudy guilani btw?

  465. MichiganGuy says:

    California Governor – Open Primary:
    .
    Newsom (D) 26%
    Cox (R) 16%
    Chiang (D) 13%
    Villaraigosa (D) 12%
    Allen (R) 10%
    Eastin (D) 7%
    Renteria (D) 4%
    Undecided 12%
    .
    David Binder Research/GavinNewsom Internal Poll
    .
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/In-governor-s-race-polls-Cox-makes-a-case-for-12757085.php-Results
    ———————————————————————————————————————-
    wow. If this poll is accurate; a Republican might actually make it to the runoff. He doesn’t have a chance to win but, hey this is Cali so, this is as good as it’s going to get for Republicans. lol

  466. Tina says:

    dia
    Likes
    Donald J. Trump’s Tweets
    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    15m
    Andrew McCabe FIRED, a great day for the hard working men and women of the FBI – A great day for Democracy. Sanctimonious James Comey was his boss and made McCabe look like a choirboy. He knew all about the lies and corruption going on at the highest levels of the FBI!

    Trump shoukd just stfu.

  467. Phil says:

    Ha. OPR

  468. Tina says:

    No need tomsay anything, trump. Just stop here.

  469. Phil says:

    Yep

    No need to say a thing. The whole thing speaks for itself.

  470. Tina says:

    The ine time he needs to just refrain, and he does not.

    Right phil, it speaks for itself.

    Night gang.

  471. mnw says:

    Wes & jason

    Cotton is the foremost Senate champion of the Freedom Caucus agenda, & Ernst is a close #2.

    If those two had lost to DEMs, you’d be lumping “Senator” Cotton & “Senator” Ernst right alongside “Senator” O’Donnell, “Senator” Akin, etc.

    I know it. You know it. And the American people know it.*

    * ht /Bob Dole

  472. mnw says:

    Tina

    Agreed— Trump just needs to STFU & let the wind twist them slowly, slowly.

  473. Tina says:

    MNw, it is beyond frustrating with him. He has to tweet, the media is so against him and biased, but, he can refrain.

    Sessions, the oig, and the opr build an air tight case against mccabe. That is why it took so long.

    Sessions did not advertise or leak a thing.

    Anyway, my kast post tonite.

  474. lisab says:

    i am not generally in favor of cutting a government employee’s pension just before they retire …

    but … if they got him on intentional breaking of rules, not just technical items,

    then ok, again, assuming he knew the rules and intentionally broke them.

  475. lisab says:

    my favorite post of the day on reddit — please excuse the bad language, i did not originally write it
    ——————————-

    Jean Bentley @hijean

    ban all men, replace them all with women of color. men/white people, u had your millenia and u phuqed it up, bye 7:46 PM 09 Nov 17 70 Retweets 48

    Likes Amiri King @Amiriking 1s Replying to @hijean

    You misspelled ‘nobody wants to phu#k me

  476. Bitterlaw says:

    I thought UVA was over-rated. I did not know it was this over-rated. Congratulations to UMBC for blowing up hundreds of millions of brackets.

  477. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    434. “Firing McCabe 26 hours before his retirement is yet another unnecessary and unneeded controversy. Trump is burning down the Republican Party one firestorm at a time.”

    Sorry Robbie, I was opposed to Trump firing McCabe too. But Trump did not fire McCabe, he was fired at the recommendation of FBI disciplinary officials. Everything we are hearing about McCabe is he acted improperly, even possibility illegally, and deserved to be fired.

    Your so blinded by you hatred of Trump that you are not able to make the proper conclusion based on the facts of what actually happened.

    “The Friday dismissal was made on the recommendation of FBI disciplinary officials and comes ahead of an inspector general report expected to conclude that McCabe had authorized the release of information to the news media and had not been forthcoming with the watchdog office as it examined the bureau’s handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation.
    “The FBI expects every employee to adhere to the highest standards of honesty, integrity, and accountability,” Sessions said in a Friday night statement.”

  478. Bitterlaw says:

    Unless he is convicted of a crime, McCabe will likely get a book deal and a “special contributor” contract with MSNBC that softens the financial hit of losing the pension.

  479. Wes says:

    Mnw, they didn’t lose, and the eeeeeeeeeeeevil “Establishment” backed them to the hilt. The NRSC cleared the field for Cotton, and both Grassley and Branstad campaigned heavily for Ernst in the clown car primary against the gaggle of weirdos running for the nomination.

    With massive influxes of eeeeeeeeeeeeeevil “Establishment” support and money in their races, both won by substantial margins.

    I think you’re being a bit irrational and overly emotional here since both Ernst and Cotton with help from mainline Republicans. Each was a good candidate, and neither has been an embarassment in the Senate. That is not, I think, too much to ask in a Senate candidate.

  480. Wes says:

    By the way, Mnw, the Chamber of Commerce endorsed Ernst.

    She was obviously “100% Chamber of Commerce approved.”

  481. Wes says:

    Mitt Romney also endorsed Ernst.

    She looks like a 100% “Establishment” figure to me.

  482. Messy57 says:

    wait for it…

  483. Messy57 says:

    FIVE HUNDRED!!!!

  484. Messy57 says:

    McCabe should have been allowed to keep his pension. He EARNED it. That was gratuitously mean.

  485. hugh says:

    501. Its awesome someone held accountable

  486. mnw says:

    I forgot “Senator” Mike Lee— another one of Wes’ establishment favorites, I’m guessing.

    Nope, Wes & jason are right! No tea party favorites need apply, because deadenders all.

  487. Wes says:

    Mike Lee is an egomaniac who won his seat by going the Ken Cuccinelli route of denying the voters a chance to decide their nominee. He doesn’t cost the GOP seat. There is that. Otherwise I have little use for him after the way he received the nomination. (Had he had a pair of cajones and faced and beaten Bennett in a primary rather than gaming the system to keep Bennett off the primary ballot, I’d feel different. As it stands, I have no use for him.)

  488. Tinak says:

    Messylsd,

    Mccabe will keep his pension, unless he is criminally convicted. See here since the media are idiots.

    FERS Basic Annuity Formula
    Age Formula
    Under Age 62 at Separation for Retirement, OR
    Age 62 or Older With Less Than 20 Years of Service 1 percent of your high-3 average salary for each year of service

  489. Tinak says:

    He also likely has a tsp aka 401k tyoe account, which is his.

    The claim that he loses his pension is false. He is not eligible for an immediate oension ar age 50 now, as a law enforcement aka gatekeeper for her thighness.

  490. Tina says:

    Sorry, the last two posts were mine.

  491. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #501
    I’ve been sobbing for McCabe the whole morning.Two years ago and after 18 years on the job, McCabe should have been smart enough to not weaponize the FBI for Hillary Clinton’s Presidential run and his wife’s VA State Senate campaign.
    Timing is immaterial. McCabe brought this on himself with serious ethical violations.

  492. Tina says:

    He still can appeal the retirement finding.

    But, it is the oig and opr that found that he lied under oath..

  493. Wes says:

    Rand Paul and Marco Rubio were Tea Party favorites who won Senate seats. (In the latter case, thank God someone blocked Charlie Crist from becoming the next Jim Jeffords.) Ron Johnson was a quasi Tea Party favorite though Johnson himself has resisted labeling as a Tea Party pol, probably because of the stigma attached to the Barnum and Bailey-style candidates generally associated with that group.

  494. Tina says:

    Remember, when we chose rubio over the entitled crist?

  495. Tina says:

    (15) “I had a meeting with my boss and the message was ‘it’s time for you to go,’ and my reaction was to salute and say, ‘Okay, no problem.’”
    (16) “I was fine with that because at the end of the day I’m a soldier, and I serve at the pleasure of my superiors.”
    (17) FOUR SENTENCES.

    Generql flynns stateme t about being fired by the obumbler, when he was at Dsi.

  496. Wes says:

    Absolutely, Tina. It was a great service Rubio did in exposing and driving that snake oil salesman out of the GOP.

    It was nearly as great when Rick Scott ended Crist’s attempt to return to Tallahassee–over MD’s determination to see Scott lose, I might add–in 2014.

  497. Tina says:

    Vs, pt Mccabe

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYdt5CSU8AAtxUj.jpg

    Mccabe sounds like a jebot, or the russian stooge, schiff.

  498. Tina says:

    Wes, was this the fan incident?

    I remeber 9ne former poster having issues with scott, a great office holder.

  499. jason says:

    Actually Ron and Rand Paul were self acclaimed Tea Party “favorites”, when really neither in any way shape or form embodied anything the Tea Party’s original intent was.

    Ron Paul was a compulsive porker completely contrary to the Tea Party’s anti-spending roots and Rand Paul is about isolationist foreign policy and anti-military policies that had nothing to do with the Tea Party movement.

    Neither Ron or Rand Paul are against spending, they are against spending on things THEY don’t want.

  500. Wes says:

    MD had a hardon for seeing Scott lose, Tina, coming up with every excuse for why the good Governor couldn’t possibly win reelection despite a solid first term in office.

    He and Author were caterwauling like a pack of Tasmanian devils after the fan incident, saying Scott was a guaranteed loser in 2014, after the fan incident.

    In the end, Scott won reelection by 100,000 votes and about 1%. Small by Florida standards but a great victory nonetheless.

  501. Wes says:

    Jason nails it.

  502. jason says:

    That was Author, he thought fan gate doomed Scott.

    At the time, I strongly disagreed, my point was who was going to change their vote because of the fan.

  503. NYCmike says:

    Let’s see, it is now 2018.

    I had an opinion about MD and Author 4-6 years ago……others are catching up now……being born, and dealing with, NYC seems to open up eyes more quickly than others.

  504. NYCmike says:

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/16/san-francisco-is-suffering-from-the-excesses-of-its-own-liberalism/http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/16/san-francisco-is-suffering-from-the-excesses-of-its-own-liberalism/

    -Lived here from 1995-1999.

    Visited in 2000, 2002, and 2008.

    Each time, I noticed more changes which lead me to believe this link is right on.

    Rudy Giuliani, another hopelessly liberal Democratic city needs you!

  505. Tina says:

    Thanks, yes it was author, who i always suspsected was a drat.

  506. Tina says:

    I think it was chekote that had attacked us for going with scott over crist the first go around.

  507. NYCmike says:

    Wes hates Mike Lee for following the rules in his state.

    Wes hates Akin, Angle, Buck, Mourdock, etc for following the rules in their states.

    Maybe, just maybe, Wes should start to look at the reasons why these people were able to follow the rules, and receive more support from the representatives/voters who will determine who gets to represent them in the general election…….instead of acting like a Democrat and thinking that men like Lugar, Bennett, etc should be elected-for-life regardless of their actions while in power.

  508. NYCmike says:

    “caterwauling like a pack of Tasmanian devils”

    -Walt,

    When you and Ca$h Cow are done with your chores, you should be able to do some damage with this one!

  509. Messy57 says:

    505. that’s not what they said on Fox News…but if that is true, it’s good to know.

  510. Tina says:

    Yes, the media has not reported accurately. This has been several months,

    He just cannot retire immediately on a pension, at age 50. He turned 50 this Sunday.

    With that said, it is not a criminal matter since he lied under oath.

    If convicted, then goodbye pensi9n.

  511. Messy57 says:

    508. McCabe got Trump elected via the Comey letter.

  512. Tina says:

    Jake Gibson
    ?
    @JakeBGibson
    DOJ Officials tell Fox News the FBI has terminated 19 employees for lack of candor from March 2017 to March 2018, and those people “were not even under oath at the time.”
    7:58 PM – Mar 16, 2018

  513. Tina says:

    No, incorrect. Comedy and mccabe hid tweiners laptop hoping for hilkary to win the election, they only reooened the case because the nypd reported that they found emails on the laptop.

    Comedy and mccabe hid evidence and ibstructed an investigation..

  514. Wes says:

    I hate Mike Lee for using fascist tactics to win a Senate seat.

    He got support from his activists to take out Bob Bennett. He never let the voters decide.

    I can see you and Mike Lee now on the subject of voters:

    “Voters? We don’t need no stinking voters!”

    I hate O’Donnell, Dick the Misogynist Bastard Mourdock, et al for dnsuring leftist Dems would take critical Senate seats.

    You really should pay better attention, Mikey.

  515. Wes says:

    Obviously Mikey has problem with reading comprehension since I posted this on this very thread regarding how Mike Lee got Bob Bennett removed from the primary ballot:

    Had he had a pair of cajones and faced FACED AND BEATEN Bennett in a primary rather than gaming the system to keep Bennett off the primary ballot, I’d feel different. As it stands, I have no use for him.

    You really are a moron, Mikey.

  516. Messy57 says:

    McCabe lost a good deal of his pension, and his health benefits.
    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/politics/andrew-mccabe-pension-if-fired/index.html

  517. Wes says:

    Ensuring*

  518. MichiganGuy says:

    “Considering McCabe’s number of years at the agency and estimations of his high-level pay grade, formulas published by the US Office of Personnel Management for law enforcement officers show that his yearly payout could hit in the area of $60,000 each year, if McCabe were to retire after his birthday on Sunday.

    If he were to be fired before Sunday, it appears likely McCabe could be docked his pension until he hits another, later age milestone.

    Experts disagree — and caution that predicting payouts is complicated given the complex federal system and each individual’s personal career particularities — but, per federal rules, McCabe may not be able to draw an annuity until a date ranging just shy of his 57th birthday, and as late as his 62nd. That could put the value of his uncollected pension in the realm of a half-million dollars.

    On top of that, McCabe could also lose his law enforcement boost.

    “What he would lose — and this is a lot of money — he would lose the enhanced benefits that law enforcement officers get,” said George Chuzi, an attorney who represents federal employees.”
    .

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/16/politics/andrew-mccabe-pension-if-fired/index.html

  519. Messy57 says:

    531. Not really.

  520. MichiganGuy says:

    Messy beat me to it.

  521. MichiganGuy says:

    Your Life in Numbers
    a project of HumanProgress
    Explore how much the world has changed since you were born.
    .
    http://yourlifeinnumbers.org/

  522. Tgca says:

    Ha! Ha! Ha!

    Look at the lawyerly language in McCabe’s response below. He does not definitively rebut his lying to the IG. He claims he was in a chaotic situation and distracted. I suspect he purposely chose to keep away from lying because that might result in something to impeach him should further legal action result against him. His whole response is about this being a political retribution but he does not deny the IG main points. He states the IG report cannot be looked at in isolation and one should look at the bigger picture.

    During these inquiries (with IG), I answer these questions truthfully and as accurately as I could amidst the chaos that surrounded me. And when I thought my answers were misunderstood, I contacted investigators to correct them.

    To have my career end this way and to be accused of lacking candor, when at worst I was distracted in the midst of chaotic events, is incredibly disappointing and unfair.

  523. Tina says:

    Yes, he lost some of his benea.

    But the media was incorrectly reporting that theynstripped his pension,

    Good article from cn and n. .

  524. Tina says:

    Distracted in the midst.

    That is funny.

    Flynn could claim that, but not mccabe.

  525. Tina says:

    In fact the agents that interviewed flynn concurred that he did not lie.

  526. Tina says:

    Mccabe also lied about not being informed in advance.

    That statement he released was polished and legally written
    It came out within minutes.
    P

  527. Tgca says:

    McCabes statement was very lawyerly indeed, and very misleading. Focus on your opinion why you think you were fired but avoid specifically denying IG accusations, and then attack IG for being weaponized by Trump.

    Really? So career officials at FBI are honest and not political but the IG falls prey to corruption just to punish McCabe when there’s absolutely no evidence of this. We have many leaks and emails that point to bad behavior by FBI leadership, however we see nothing similar on the IG but the IG is acting egregiously. Ha! Ha! Ha!

    The only time he stated there was an untruthful statement was when he generalized below but again never denied the IG accusations. Very lawyerly response indeed.

    The FBI was portrayed as caving under that pressure and making decisions for political rather than enforcement purposes. Nothing was further from the truth.

  528. Tina says:

    THis makes sense. Oig findings, mccabe demotion, informed he is subject to being termined, opr investigation, appeal for job, and termination.

  529. Tgca says:

    Tina

    I did not know the response came within minutes.

    I just hate that!

  530. Tgca says:

    I wish this would have happened to Lois Lerner as well.

  531. Tina says:

    Ra chickenes out on lerner,

    That is why i do not want a second sp to gum things up, or gowdy the rooster involved in this,

  532. NYCmike says:

    Mike Lee won his “primary” in accordance with the rules in effect.

    COD, Mourdock, Angle, etc won their primaries in accordance with the rules in effect.

    ALL of Wes’s politicians-for-life LOST their primaries for specific reasons, the majority of which Wes refuses to even ponder……too many comic books to read, I guess.

  533. NYCmike says:

    Wes Dictionary:

    “gaming the system” = FOLLOW THE RULES

    “stripper” = WIFE

    Interesting times we live in!

  534. Tina says:

    The drats and jebots are unhinged, defending mccabe, who was portrayed as non partisan.

  535. NYCmike says:

    “The drats and jebots are unhinged,”

    -Conditions NORMAL.

  536. Jody Beaumont says:

    Trump is a big dick for firing McCabe the way he did, as well as how he treated the Secretary of State. Tricky Dick Nixon took on the FBI and look how that turned out! Pass the popcorn…pray that Mueller subpoenas Trump and the hearing is televised. Trust Ms. Stormy has photos, video or both. Hope there’s a dick photo, too!

  537. Tina says:

    Why are the drats supporting lawless Mccabe?

  538. Tina says:

    https://amp.thedailybeast.com/trumps-lawyer-its-time-to-fire-robert-mueller#click=https://t.co/xc4daAvUcE

    Trumps lawyer request end to mulehead investigation based on clinton, fbi, russian dossier.

  539. Tina says:

    Clapper, brennan and holder are sheoting.

  540. lisab says:

    that ant-gun boy, david hogg, just got rejected by another college today

    i would have thought he would have his choice of ivy leagues

    i guess they don’t want trouble makers who will go on tv if the get a C in freshman comp

  541. lisab says:

    in part the firing is really a set up for the next round of fbi and government employee interviews

    lisab: ok … you were working on the hillary email case … start talking …

    fbi agent: no

    lisab: that is a nice pension you have there, it would be a shame if something happened to it.

  542. dblaikie says:

    Watch the case with Flynn. If Mueller’s case against him begins to implode so will his investigation. And make no mistake another special counsel would deliver a death blow to Mueller if it is found that the fisa warrants were illegal.

  543. lisab says:

    mueller will drag it out as long as possible, i know i would … you cannot beat the money

    lisab: sooooooo … you were the waitress at mara-a-lago in 2016?

    waitress: that’s right

    lisab: and did you serve russian dressing?

    waitress: ummmmm … no

    lisab: did anyone ever ask you for russian dressing?

    waitress: i don’t think so … our dressings were clearly marked on the menues

    lisab: but you are not positive?

    waitress: well … maybe once or twice …

    lisab: aha!!!!

  544. lisab says:

    Muslim abuser who ‘didn’t know’ that sex with a girl of 13 was illegal is spared jail
    Adil Rashid admitted travelling to Nottingham and having sex with the girl
    He met the 13-year-old on Facebook and they communicated by texts and phone for two months before they met
    He was educated in a madrassa and ‘had little experience of women’
    Said he had been taught ‘women are no more worthy than a lollipop that has been dropped on the ground’
    Added he was reluctant to have sex but that he was ‘tempted by [the girl]’

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268395/Adil-Rashid-Paedophile-claimed-Muslim-upbringing-meant-didnt-know-illegal-sex-girl-13.html#ixzz5A1pKFEN5

  545. lisab says:

    it gets worse for mccabe

    now he has to sign up for obamacare!!!!

  546. Tgca says:

    Hey Jody Buttface 554

    The recommendation to fire McCabe was from the IG, and the FBI office responsible for professional conduct agreed. This was not a Trump decision, as I doubt anyone is going to just act on his request because of the legal scrutiny he is u dear in the independent counsel probe.

  547. MichiganGuy says:

    * Breaking News *
    .
    Rutgers administrators ban Lucky Charms from the school cafeteria.
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4bxz2RSkrI
    ———————————————————————————————————————-
    Happy St. Patrick’s Day!

  548. Tgca says:

    If McCabe was Japanese, he would do the honorable thing and find the nearest roof and ….

  549. MichiganGuy says:

    McCabe: So my involvement in treasonous acts were in vain AND I stand to lose my pension?!?!?!?!
    .
    https://twitter.com/jojoh888/status/975003497996476417
    LOL

  550. Bitterlaw says:

    I wonder if most people who say Happy St. Paddy’s Day realize that Paddy was a derogatory term and anti- Irish slur. It was on a par with the N word.

  551. lisab says:

    i’m in a pub in ny, drinking beer like a dood irish american lass

    and

    the guy at the table next to me ordered white wine!

    sometimes i want to take a flamethrower to this place!

  552. lisab says:

    good not dood 🙂

    too much beer

  553. Messy57 says:

    560. How is the case against Flynn going to implode?
    He’s already pleaded guilty to a symbolic felony and spilled his guts and handed over all his documents to the Mueller team.

    556.That was a really dumb comment on the lawyer’s part.

    As to McCabe, he’s been taking notes, he’s furious, and he’s given everything he has to Mueller and might give it to the media as well.

    Trump himself getting involved in the Stormy Daniels thing is also horrible optically. If he has nothing to hide, why do all this?

  554. Messy57 says:

    If this is a witch hunt, why is Trump dancing around with a broom while wearing a pointy hat?

  555. Messy57 says:

    567. Treasonous to what? not to America.

  556. Tgca says:

    So McCabe took notes? Big deal. He was already under the microscope of investigation so it proves nothing and may be seen as skeptical attempt to manufacture a story. Has it ever occurred to you, that Trump and company also documented each conversation thereafter meetings? You can’t say that one set of notes qualifies, and anothe does not. Besides, the fact that IG independent investigation stated he lacked candor goes to his credibility.

  557. dblaikie says:

    First of all, with the political nature of this decision if they didn’t have the facts that warranted Macabe’s firing they wouldn’t have done it. Second, I laugh at all this stuff in the media that Trump needs to be afraid because now Macable will really turn on him with Mueller — he told all he knew to Mueller months ago. Third I sure hope that IG’s report comes out the same day as Comey’s book — now that would make quite a day!

  558. Tina says:

    Either mccabe lied, or comedy.

    Comedy stated in may of 2017 testimony before congress that he authorized nobody to be an anonymous source for a leak. Yesterday, mccabe said he did it, but was authorizd to do it by comedy.

  559. Wes says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 17, 2018 at 11:35 am
    Mike Lee won his “primary” in accordance with the rules in effect.

    COD, Mourdock, Angle, etc won their primaries in accordance with the rules in effect.

    Mikey brought up the merry band of losers who threw away winnable Senate seats.

    Mike Lee never won a primary against Bennett because Lee arranged to have his hired goons deny Bennett ballot access.

    Mussolini used identical tactics to achieve power in Italy.

    Mikey likes the fact that Mike Lee emulated fascist political tactics to gain power.

    Ergo…

  560. Tina says:

    Muleheads case against flynn will collapse.

    Pete the cheat and the judge were apparently in cahoots..

    Not a food thing.

    Messylsd, just sit back and enjoy the oig report and the work of sessions and his special appointment.

    Who is this person?

  561. Tina says:

    And you cannot have high ranking officials discussing insurance policies agiainst a candidate or inc9 ing administration.

    We are not a banana republic.

  562. Tina says:

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    The Fake News is beside themselves that McCabe was caught, called out and fired. How many hundreds of thousands of dollars was given to wife’s campaign by Crooked H friend, Terry M, who was also under investigation? How many lies? How many leaks? Comey knew it all, and much more!

    Trump knows all. He is steps ahe@d of comedy, mccabe, pete, sjw yates, etc.

  563. Tina says:

    “Scoop: McAuliffe PAC gave $467,500 to campaign of wife of senior FBI official who oversaw Clinton email probe” (link)

    This seems sinister and a basis for m+abes firing,

  564. Tina says:

    Worth noting – Mike Kortan is the same FBI official who released the previous unauthorized FBI statement about the Nunes memo: “grave concerns about material omissions of fact” etc. A few days later Kortan was advised to resign by current FBI Director Christopher Wray.

  565. Tina says:

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    Democrats, 3/15/2018: “The FBI is a sacred institution, they’re beholden only to the law, not Trump. Trump is going down!!”

    Democrats, 3/17/2018: “The FBI are Trump puppets who framed #McCabe for doing his job!!”

  566. Messy57 says:

    581. Mrs. McCabe had every right to participate in the American political system. Running for office under the law is legal no matter who you are married to.

  567. Bitterlaw says:

    A man drinking white wine? Gayest post of the day.

  568. Tina says:

    Mr mccabe can jump a bridge too. He cannot campaign for his wife, however, on gument time or using resources, or emailing supporters.

  569. Tina says:

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    1) The fact that McCarthy admits there is not even such a charge should wake some people up, but it won’t.

    Mulehead’s smokescreen machine is running out of smoke. He’s run hither and yon, countermarching like Gen. John McGruder in front of McClellan, soaking up attention.
    Byron York
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    Read @AndrewCMcCarthy on the ‘new, grandiose crime of ‘conspiracy against the United States.” (link: http://ow.ly/MktY30j0j6r) ow.ly/MktY30j0j6r

  570. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    577. “Mike Lee never won a primary against Bennett because Lee arranged to have his hired goons deny Bennett ballot access.”

    Huh? In Utah, the Republican Party rules at the time required that its senate candidate be chosen at the State Republican Party convention by the delegates. Each convention delegate was chosen at a local caucus at which the local residents could attend and vote.

    I strongly preferred Bennett over Lee. But Lee won the required 60% at the Republican convention for the nomination, without a primary There were no hired goons. I have participated in Republican caucuses in Utah, don’t remember any hired goons — just a bunch of neighbors.

    After the Lee nomination, the party rules were changed so that a candidate could qualify to be in a primary with enough signatures. Curtis used that route in 2017 to win the Republican primary, and defeating the Convention nominated candidate, for the special congressional election.

  571. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    585.581. “Mrs. McCabe had every right to participate in the American political system. Running for office under the law is legal no matter who you are married to.:

    Messy, no one is challenging Mrs. McCabe’s right to run for office. It is the conduct of Mr. McCabe that is in question.

  572. Tina says:

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    Over the top comments from this and other senior former Obama officials show why it isn’t difficult to imagine the Obama intelligence apparatus’ being misused and abused to target @realDonaldTrump. (link: https://twitter.com/JohnBrennan/status/974978856997224448) twitter.com/JohnBrennan/st…

  573. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    586. “A man drinking white wine? Gayest post of the day.”

    Bitter, most the gays I know drink red wine. This is why you need to take that trip to California.

  574. CG says:

    The post above is incorrect factually.

    Lee did win the nomination in 2010 in a primary.

    The top two candidates advanced from the convention to the primary, and Lee won the primary 51-49 over Bridgewater. Bennett finished in third place at the convention on the first ballot. In the second and third ballot at the conventon, Bridgewater had gotten more votes than Lee.

    It is reasonable to assume that if the nomination was only decided in a primary that Bennett would have won.

  575. Tina says:

    Drudge

    TIME RUNNING OUT FOR MULEHEAD.

  576. Tina says:

    “I pray that Acting Attorney General Rosenstein will follow the brilliant and courageous example of the FBI Office of Professional Responsibility and Attorney General Jeff Sessions and bring an end to alleged Russia Collusion investigation manufactured by McCabe’s boss James Comey based upon a fraudulent and corrupt Dossier,” Dowd then wrote.

    In making the statement, a senior member of Trump’s legal team joins the calls from his base to end the probe. As late as mid-December, another Trump lawyer,

    This is good cop vs bad cop. Mulehead is running out of time. The doj can go after any russians that interferrd or foreigners, such as Steele that used russian sources, and was paid by hillary to fabricate the dossier

  577. Tina says:

    IN addition to lying under oath, obatructing investigations, mccabe needs to be charged with stealing gubmnent notes.

    The documente are federal property, not mccabes,

  578. Hugh says:

    Glad McCabe got his. I hope there is a lot more to come or government employees destroying their enemies live through their unlimited resources will go unchecked if it’s republicans because the media will do nothing.

  579. NYCmike says:

    Lee played the game by the rules…..nothing else to say.

    Wes calling him “fascist” is like a Democrat calling a Republican “racist”….the usual retort AFTER LOSING THE ARGUMENT.

  580. NYCmike says:

    DC

  581. NYCmike says:

    “It is reasonable to assume that if the nomination was only decided in a primary that Bennett would have won.”

    -I never said otherwise.

  582. Tina says:

    According to Samantha Power, the AG cannot fire crooked FBI agents because it will make John Brennan mad and he’ll do something to our president. Sure, that makes sense. These are the people Obama put in positions of power.

    Theynare unhinged, comedy, mccabe, brennan, sjw yates, susan powers, etc.

    They need to be locked up.

  583. NYCmike says:

    Mike Lee is way better than Bennett, especially for a state as conservative as Utah.

  584. Wes says:

    Lee defeated Bridgewater in a primary. He never faced Bennett in a primary.

  585. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    594. “The post above is incorrect factually. Lee did win the nomination in 2010 in a primary.”

    Thanks CG for the correction. I forgot all about Bridgewater. Everyone was focused on Bennett losing out at the convention.

  586. Tina says:

    Orin Hatch is way better thsn presumptive replacement, quitten cant take a ounch romwny.

  587. NYCmike says:

    lisab,

    You were in NYC, or upstate NY?

    My wife and I were on the East side of NYC, after the parade ended…..my Lord, I do NOT recall my wife or her friends being as sloppy as most of the women I saw….dirty mouths, cursing all over the place, showing lots of skin……damn, to be a 20-something again!

  588. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    603. “Mike Lee is way better than Bennett, especially for a state as conservative as Utah.”

    Don’t think you can use a national definition of conservatism vs. liberalism in Utah. It is more a sort of pragmatic conservatism that has been highly successful in Utah, as its economic growth has shown. It is also a state dominated by the middle class, and does not have the extremes of rich and poor that other states do.

    At the same time, it does not like ideological extremes. Keep in mind Trump only received 14 % of the Utah vote in the primary.

    Bennett did a lot for Utah, but he had lost touch with the grassroots. He was also complacent, since he was ahead in the polls (Rasmussen in April 2010 had him 2-1 above his opponents, but only at 37% of the vote, with a lot of undecided.)

    Hatch was better prepared in 2012, but still only got 59% support at the Republican Convention, so had to go into a primary he won by 66% of the vote.

  589. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump only pulled 46% of the vote in Utah; in the special congressional election in 2017, the Republican winner, Curtis, stated he did not vote for Trump.

  590. NYCmike says:

    San Diego,

    This country has gone so far left that we are in much more need of men and women like mike Lee, ompared to people like Bennett.

  591. CG says:

    Way go to Ramblers!

  592. mnw says:

    All tea party socons are deadenders!

    Ask former “Senator” Jim Demint, right up there with “Senator” COD, “Senator” Mike Lee, and “Senator” Aiken.

    Losers all.

  593. jason says:

    All tea party socons are deadenders!”

    The tea party was not a socon movement, much to the contrary.

    It was actually started by Rick Santelli on CNBC, a business channel, pertaining to over taxation and government intervention in the private sector.

    Although I certainly preferred Bennett, Lee is ok.

    For one he is definitely not an AFL-CIO conservative.

    “The tariffs proposed by the president this week would be a huge job-killing tax hike on American consumers,” Sen. Lee said. “While I am sympathetic to the issues facing domestic steel manufacturers, there must be a better way to address the steel industry’s concerns, and I hope Congress and the executive branch can identify an alternative solution before these tariffs are finalized next week.”

  594. jason says:

    “HUGE JOB-KILLING TAX HIKE ON AMERICAN CONSUMERS”

    Perfect.

  595. jason says:

    I wish Sessions would just appoint another special counsel to look into what looks to be a conspiracy against Trump.

    And of course look into the DNC’s collusion with a foreign agent and the derailing of the email investigation.

    I am sure the Democrats want “to get to the bottom” of all this right?

  596. jason says:

    This really is it in a nutshell:

    “These charges against Gates and Manafort have nothing to do with “collusion with Russia,” the investigation for which Rosenstein appointed Mueller. There is no reason this case could not have been prosecuted by regular Justice Department lawyers. There was no need for a special counsel for this. And regular Justice Department prosecutors, overseen by engaged Justice Department superiors ensuring adherence to well-established Justice Department policies, would not prosecute a case this way.”

  597. Tina says:

    He has appointed a person already.

  598. Tina says:

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    The Mueller probe should never have been started in that there was no collusion and there was no crime. It was based on fraudulent activities and a Fake Dossier paid for by Crooked Hillary and the DNC, and improperly used in FISA COURT for surveillance of my campaign. WITCH HUNT!

  599. jason says:

    Trump is a big dick for firing McCabe the way he did”

    Except that he didn’t fire McCabe.

    Stick with Stormy, that is more up your alley.

  600. jason says:

    He has appointed a person already.”

    Not with special counsel powers.

  601. jason says:

    As to McCabe, he’s been taking notes,”

    Zzzzzz…

    His testimony is now worthless, just wait for the IG report.

  602. Tina says:

    Its a prosecutor outside of dc. That person is likely working hand in hand with the ig official, who was appointed by obama, has the same powers essentially.

    We need to keep that persons role out of dc and out of congress,

  603. jason says:

    Mike Lee is way better than Bennett, especially for a state as conservative as Utah”

    LOL

    “Way better” for whom, exactly?

  604. Wes says:

    After interjecting himself into a number of Senate races in 2010 and 2012 and costing Republicans several seats with his antics, DeMint promptly resigned his seat (thus allowing the lovely Nikki Haley to appoint a fine Senator in Tim Scott) and tried to influence Senate races from the outside.

    He failed miserably.

    Every candidate DeMint backed in 2014 lost because Republicans had tired of his type of colorful but unelectable candidate.

    Every. Single. One.

    I wouldn’t say DeMint himself is a Deadender in the strictest sense of the word since he never actually lost an election. Nonetheless, he did enable the Deadenders to nominate utterly unelectable candidates.

    That finally blow up in his face in 2014 when all DeMint’s Deadenders rightly took it on the chin.

  605. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    After running the Australian state of South Australia since 2002, the Labor Party just lost to the centre-right Liberal Party. It was a huge loss to renewable energy advocates, who looked upon South Australia as a utopia for wind energy and Tesla batteries. It also had some of the highest energy prices in the world, and repeated blackouts.

    “Australia’s Liberals win state election in blow for renewables lobby

    The vote was seen as a choice between solar and wind energy, pushed by Labor, and coal, backed by Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s conservative government.

    South Australia, the country’s fifth most populous state, has the most wind and solar power but the highest electricity prices in the country.
    Its 1.7 million citizens suffered repeated blackouts over the last two years when intermittent wind power was insufficient and back-up power from coal and gas was unavailable.
    Outgoing Labor premier Jay Weatherill had announced a plan in February to create a network of 50,000 home solar systems backed by Tesla Powerwall batteries.
    Turnbull mocked the state’s renewables policy as a “reckless energy experiment” that created the highest electricity prices in the developed world.
    The federal government wants to introduce a national energy policy that has no renewable energy target but sets requirements for emissions cuts and reliability. South Australia’s Labor government had refused to go along with it.
    Energy policy specialist David Blowers at the Grattan Institute think-tank told Reuters last week that if the Liberals were to win in South Australia, the federal government could be expected to get the approval it needs to proceed.”

  606. Phil says:

    Tina,

    Oh no! Brennan is pissed off. Everyone run for the hills!

  607. Jody Beaumont says:

    Hah! A congressman has offered Andrew McCabe a federal job. He will work one full pay period and then be eligible for his full federal pension. There isn’t a damn thing dickhead president can do about it!!!??????????????????

  608. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Mike Lee is way better than Bennett, especially for a state as conservative as Utah”

    Have grown to respect Mike Lee, although often disagree. Admired his father Rex Lee, who was U.S. Solicitor General under Reagan. By the way, Rex Lee’s first cousins were Mo & Steward Udall. So the Sen. Lee & Sen. Udall of New Mexico are second cousins. Former Oregon Senator Gordon Smith also had Udall ancestry.

  609. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    628. The issue was not the pension, but that he violated the law and was recommended to be terminated after an FBI investigation.

  610. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This is from The Hill, a relatively liberal website. The FBI scandal is growing:

    “McCabe is accused of misleading investigators about allegedly giving information to a former Wall Street Journal reporter about the investigation of Hillary Clinton and the Clinton family’s charitable foundation. McCabe asserts in his post-firing statement that he not only had authority to “share” that information to the media but did so with the knowledge of “the director.” The FBI director at the time was Comey.
    “I chose to share with a reporter through my public affairs officer and a legal counselor,” McCabe stated. “As deputy director, I was one of only a few people who had the authority to do that. It was not a secret, it took place over several days, and others, including the director, were aware of the interaction with the reporter.”
    If the “interaction” means leaking the information, then McCabe’s statement would seem to directly contradict statements Comey made in a May 2017 congressional hearing. Asked if he had “ever been an anonymous source in news reports about matters relating to the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation” or whether he had “ever authorized someone else at the FBI to be an anonymous source in news reports about the Trump investigation or the Clinton investigation,” Comey replied “never” and “no.”
    The Justice Department’s inspector general clearly saw this “interaction” as problematic in seeking answers from McCabe. If the inspector general considered this to be a leak to the media, any approval by Comey would be highly significant. Comey already faces serious questions over his use of a Columbia University Law School professor to leak information to the media following his own termination as director.
    In leaving the FBI last year, Comey improperly removed memos about the Russian investigation that he wrote concerning meetings with Trump. Since these memos discussed an ongoing FBI investigation and were written on an FBI computer, the bureau reportedly confirmed they were viewed as official documents subject to review and approval prior to any removal or disclosure.
    Comey could have given the memos to the congressional oversight committees. Instead, he removed at least seven memos and gave at least four to his professor-friend to leak to the media. Four of the seven memos that Comey removed are now believed to be classified. Since he reportedly gave four memos to his friend to leak to the media, at least one of the leaked memos was likely classified.
    Now, McCabe appears to be suggesting that Comey was consulted before the alleged leak to the media on the Clinton investigation. Many of us had speculated that it seemed unlikely McCabe would take such a step without consulting with Comey. Yet, Comey repeatedly stated that he had never leaked nor caused anyone to leak information to the media.
    The timing for Comey could not be worse. He already has started selling tickets, for roughly $100 each, to attend the tour for his forthcoming book, “A Higher Loyalty: Truth, Lies, and Leadership.” If he gave McCabe the green light for his “interaction,” the title could prove embarrassingly ironic.”

  611. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Given Comey’s behavior, claiming his termination was an obstruction of justice doesn’t stand up too well.

  612. Phil says:

    628

    Nobody gives a damn about this guy’s pension. Missing the point aren’t you? He got fired. He got fired because he violated department policy and committed at least two fireable offenses. That he did both wasn’t a determination made by Trump. It was made by the FBI’s own watchdog group.

    It’s not rocket science.

  613. lisab says:

    You were in NYC, or upstate NY?
    —————–

    watkins glen

  614. jason says:

    After interjecting himself into a number of Senate races in 2010 and 2012 and costing Republicans several seats with his antics, DeMint promptly resigned his seat (thus allowing the lovely Nikki Haley to appoint a fine Senator in Tim Scott) and tried to influence Senate races from the outside.

    He failed miserably.

    Every candidate DeMint backed in 2014 lost because Republicans had tired of his type of colorful but unelectable candidate.

    Every. Single. One.

    I wouldn’t say DeMint himself is a Deadender in the strictest sense of the word since he never actually lost an election. Nonetheless, he did enable the Deadenders to nominate utterly unelectable candidates.

    That finally blow up in his face in 2014 when all DeMint’s Deadenders rightly took it on the chin.”

    Exactly. And these miserably bad deandenders did not lose because they were socons, they lost because the were miserably bad candidates.

    If you to elect socons, run socons that aren’t idiots like COD, Angle, Miller, Buck, Akin, Mourdock, McDaniel, Moore, etc. excuse me if I missed any idiots.

    mnw wants to play victim here, but unfortunately the rest of us here are the victims of the people who nominated these losers.

    mnw to say hey some “establishment” candidates lost too. Zzzzzzzzzz…..

    Bogus argument, sometimes you lose with your best candidate, its no reason to run certaint losers.

    Romney was the best candidate the GOP had to run against Obama in 2012.He lost. Does that mean we should have run certain losers like COD, Akin, Angle, Mourdock and other idiots? No.

  615. jason says:

    “DeMint’s Deadenders”

    I like it.

  616. Tina says:

    Lying mccabe and his attorney claim a rush to judgment,

    That is bs. Both had prepared statements. Both knew well in advance what was hapoening.

  617. Messy57 says:

    631. In this case, “relatively liberal” means “to the left of Steve Bannon”. They’ve been Trump shills since he secured the nomination two years ago.

  618. Tina says:

    The tweets from brennan and powers are alarming.

    All of thiss due t9 mccabe firing?

  619. Messy57 says:

    233. The pressure on the inspector general was enormous. The report, if it exists (I’m not saying it doesn’t), is similar to the BS one given to explain the Comey firing.

    The optics are horrible.

  620. Tina says:

    Bs, horowitz, the oig head, is an obama appointee,

    He has been wanting to do his job for years.m he was prevented from doing so by sjw yates., who wrongly stated that he could not look into their area if the fbi, justice departments,

    Mccabe lied. Oig and opr confirm.

  621. Tina says:

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  622. Tina says:

    The way mccabe, comedy powers, brennean, et. al are acting is not suprisingl. Theynare acting guilty and will frther incriminate themselves.

  623. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #640
    So the “sources” you frequently mention told you that the pressure on the Inspector General was “enormous”. Please name names and explain.
    Even though you are ambivalent about the existence of the McCabe IG Reort, you are certain that it is BS if it does exist.
    The optics may be horrible, but let’s not have you confuse that with facts which may be devastating to McCabe, Comey et al.

    Your so-called insight brings a lot of levity to this site.

  624. Tina says:

    It is time for the house rs to defund, mulehead.

    If they fail and allow this sheot to continue through the midterms, we will loae one or both houses.

  625. Tina says:

    The manner in which trump is tweeting, tells me has the full ig report. It is damning.

  626. Sheeple, Jr. says:

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  627. Tina says:

    I voted No.

    Jebot

  628. Tina says:

    “Rosenstein, instead, put the cart before the horse: Mueller was invited to conduct a fishing expedition, a boundless quest to hunt for undiscovered crimes, rather than an investigation and prosecution of known crimes.” – @AndrewCMcCarthy

  629. jason says:

    I voted NO too.

    Firing Mueller now would look like a cover-up, although Trump is right that he should never have been appointed.

    The whole investigation is now tainted by partisan politics and if Mueller tries to “get” Trump for something he now has tons of ammunition to counter it.

    Unless you are a Dem or a Wobbie, there is no way now with all this that anyone can think the investigation is not compromised.

  630. jason says:

    It has come to this.
    Instapundit”

    THERE’S NO IQ TEST FOR BEING A POLITICIAN: Sign Referencing Civil War Hero Is Sexual Harassment, Says Massachusetts Lawmaker: Rep. Michelle DuBois wants to remove a statehouse sign that reads “General Hooker Entrance” because it is an affront to “women’s dignity.”

    But if there were such a test in Massachusetts, it would feature an IQ ceiling, not a floor. . . .

  631. gameboy says:

    I voted Yes. The time has come to go to war before it’s too late, and let the chips fall where they may. Otherwise this will nonsense will drag on for another 3-7 years.

  632. jason says:

    I still hope Mueller will be fair. Initially I sided with those that said look, he was appointed in an R administration to be FBI Director, he is not a partisan guy, he will be fair, etc.

    But now I have my doubts, I am very skeptical of the Flynn indictment and Manafort’s indictment has zero to do with anything related to Trump’s campaign. In addition his investigative team seems way too skewed to the left and to Hillary donors and supporters. His treatment of Gates seems heavy handed.

    Maybe in the end, he will do the right thing. But I have less confidence than I did at the start.

  633. jason says:

    I voted Yes. The time has come to go to war before it’s too late, and let the chips fall where they may. Otherwise this will nonsense will drag on for another 3-7 years.”

    It’s going to drag on anyway if you fire him.

    Let Mueller finish first. THEN go to war if you have too.

  634. jason says:

    There is no good outcome here, unless Mueller exonerates Trump.

    Maybe he will decide Comey and McCabe are not exactly the kind of witnesses he wants to showcase.

  635. Tina says:

    Maybe mukehead will decide that he has no evidence.

    Swampstein let him go off reservation.

    Swampstein needs to rain him in and tell him to end.

  636. Tina says:

    The issue is that comedy lied and relied on the dossier for getting the sc hired, the sc is an fbi chrony and has no incentive to look into the fbi.

    Fake dossier set up fake sc tasked to hunt for a crime.

    In white water and ithermatters, you had the aopaeance of a crime. Here nothing.

  637. Tina says:

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    .@realDonaldTrump and his lawyers have been doing something the last few days that they’ve previously gone to great lengths to avoid.

    They’re publicly challenging the integrity of #Mueller and his witch hunt.

    Something is afoot.

  638. Tina says:

    Drudge poll

    80 percent want mulehead to be fired.

  639. Hugh says:

    I’m a no. Jason has it right.

  640. Hugh says:

    However. I do not see mueller exonerating trump

  641. Tgca says:

    I never thought Mueller was objective because of the simple matter he had a mentoring-like relationship with and friendship with Comey. It is absurd to believe that he would not be impacted by that relationship.

    In addition, him being a GOP has diddly squat with expectations of being fair and non-partisan in the investigation We see how other GOP folks like McCain, the Bushes, and other GOP Hillary fans would eagerly support her because this is more about power than political allegiance. Trump and his like threaten the establishment so any means possible to inflict the most damage is their game.

  642. Hugh says:

    Rothstein picked mueller figuring he would be seen as fair but would protect the higher ups in the fbi doj and cia. However too many others are finding stuff that makes it impossible for mueller to save all of them. So I believe he will find something on trump even if it’s hardly relevant. His problem is his witnesses will soon all be tainted as liars and leakers.

  643. Tgca says:

    I think an independent counsel should be appointed to investigate the FBI and the FISA issues. But it should be a narrow scope and not a fishing expedition for potential crimes that have nothing to do with the probe. There should be a direct link and not that someone failed to file paperwork 10 years ago.

    I am generally against these types of investigations for a number of reasons:

    1st, there is an expectation you must find some evidence of some sort of a crime, otherwise, the investigation is a waste,

    2nd, they drag on for years and tend to abuse authority by overstepping the intended scope,

    3rd, they mire the nation in unnecessary controversy that detracts from the daily business of running the nation and focusing on the real needs,

    4th, they are used to bilk the government of funds and used by investigators to promote their career and future money-making opportunities.

  644. Tina says:

    The way the brennans, the clappers, and power are reacting to mccabe indicates some kind of cover up.

    Now, however, of more concern for comedy and mccabe are the criminal investigations.

    They lied to congress and to investigators.

  645. Tina says:

    And you have to think folks like pete the cheat, the mistress, ohr, and priestap are singing.

    Why? They are all still there.

  646. Tina says:

    Notice too hiw mulehead charges. He charges up a storm and then eli inates those charges. See the article from mccarthy.

    Mulehead is corruo given he cost the gubment millions with his false charges in the anthrax matter.

  647. Tina says:

    By tweeting, comedy, clapper, brennan, susan powers, etc. are acting like they are guilty.

    Powers let it slip that she let others unmask using her rights.

  648. Tina says:

    In short, clapper, brennan, powell, etc. are acting nervous.

  649. Tgca says:

    The flakey Sen Flake from AZ is cautioning Trump on next steps and why it was dumb to fire McCabe.

    This guy is sooooooo desperate for media attention.

    1st, Trump did not fire McCabe, Sessions did. There’s a big difference.

    2nd, what was the DOJ supposed to do when both the IG and FBI recommend the firing in precedent with previous terminations? If no action, it looks like preferential treatment.

    3rd, how insulting it must be for the Senator from AZ to basically to impugn the character of the Senator from AL as a tool of POTUS. I’ve not been a big fan of Sessions because I believe he has been overcautious and weak by not taking on corruption but when he does, and they accuse him of doing it for politics is absurd.

    McCabe should have been fired in Dec when the IG 1st brought these issues to light.

  650. Tina says:

    Flakey is an idiot.

    He cannot go soon enough.

    I see that goober is out there asking trump not to fire mulhead..

    Clearly two of the worst r senators., ineffective despite being always on tv.

  651. Wes says:

    Tg, Flake announced his retirement after his popularity in AZ plunged to 18%. He’s gone in 9 1/2 months, so why even bother mentioning an increasingly irrelevant soon-to-be-ex-pol.

  652. Tina says:

    Goober is playing into the meme, rather than going out and saying that trumo never asked mulehead to be fired.

    Then, pivot and say there is a kot of corruption in the mulehead investigation and it seems overly broad and has been going on too long,

    But goober is made for tee vee.

  653. Tina says:

    Yeah flakey is gone, but why is he on tee vee lying?

  654. Tina says:

    Why isnt flakey blaming mccabe?

  655. Tina says:

    Why is flakey a rool?

  656. Wes says:

    Lindsay Graham. Good God, I hope he retires soon. There are many solid Republicans in South Carolina such as Nikki Haley, but this guy gets to keep his seat as long as he wants it.

    I wish Nikki Haley would box him out and take his seat.

  657. Wes says:

    Oh, wait. I said something bad about not one but two eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil “Establishment” Republicans. I must have had too much to drink anoche.

  658. Tgca says:

    Flake is like Hillary. He just can’t accept that he has essentially lost. Has he even admitted that he failed to run again because of his inevitable loss? He’s not running to spare himself the embarrassment of a significant loss but criticizes others. What a joke he is.

    He can’t fathom why the people don’t agree with him over Trump or others. He’s like the dumb high school jock who realizes upon graduation that the best days of his life are behind him as the rest of the world moves on and he struggles for the last hoorah moment.

    Flake has brought shame and embarrassment to his family, that was once iconic in AZ. Reminds me of how the Bushes reacted when they realized their grip on national politics died in 2016.

  659. Tina says:

    Those two r need to quit feeding story lines.

    Flakey out there saying trump fired mccabe.

    Goober out there lying about firing mukehead.

  660. Tina says:

    Flakey should worry about his children.

  661. Tgca says:

    I thought Lindsay would retire if he found himself a nice lil boyfriend.

  662. Tina says:

    All of this mulehead stuff egged on by phony rs, who are scared ro defund mukehead.

  663. Tina says:

    I did not realize that trump comprised the opr and the oig.

    Maybe flakey should be asked that.

    He is acting like a conspiracy loon.

  664. Tgca says:

    Well, I am hoping soon that teo solid and respectable GOP Senators can serve the state of AZ. The current two are disgraceful, self-serving has-beens.

  665. Tina says:

    MAYbe flakey should note that oig horowitz is an obama appointee

  666. Tina says:

    If comedy and mccabe have secret memos of trumps crimes, how come they did not produce that evidence since 2015/2016?

    I did not realize that they were protecting trump.

    In any event, this is witness tampering.

    These boyz need to watch themselces in the prison shower.

  667. Tina says:

    Tampering with evidence,

    Obstruction

    Bye bye comedy, mulehead.

  668. Tina says:

    Comedy, mccabe, not mulehead

  669. Tina says:

    Benny
    ?
    @bennyjohnson
    The media is quite literally giving advice to a disgraced federal official, fired for leaking unauthorized info & lying under oath, so that federal official can defraud the taxpayer & collect a lifetime pension.

    Then they wonder why the American public does not trust the media? https://twitter.com/mitchellreports/status/974831223817342977
    8:39 PM – Mar 16, 2018

    Flaky probably supports this action of aiding mccabe, however, it is a criminal matter now.

  670. Phil says:

    As Samantha Power tweeted, it is not a good idea to piss off John Brennan.. Trump has done it now. Trump is finished. Brennan is gunning for him. It’s over.

  671. Tina says:

    Powe, as un ambassador unmasked hundreds. She shoukd never have had the authority to do this.

    Then, she states that she did nit unmask, somebody used her password.

    Wtf?

  672. Tina says:

    Did goober or flaky mention these threats against trump by deep staters?

    No, of course not, but muh tee vee.

    Muh mulehead fir8ng.

    Muh trump controls opr and oig.

  673. Tgca says:

    So Ezra Klein is basically arguing in Vox that Sessions is a tool of Trump and fired McCabe even though Sessions previously recused himself of all things Russia and the 2016 campaign investigation.

    So let me get this straight, as the head of the agency, because you recused yourself of directly overseeing the investigation into Russian collusion, you are now not able to oversee disciplinary actions on anyone who might be tangentially related to the Russian collusion i vestigatio even in matters not dealing with Russian collusion?

    You must now outsource your responsibility to others?

    So if a low level agent involved in interviewing witnesses on the Russia collusion is later found to be a dope-smoking addict on the job and his termination is recommended by the FBI, you should not carry out your duties to terminate because he is involved in the Russia investigation in which you recused yourself?

    Why not just have Sessions recuse himself of all his responsibilities? This is absurd reasoning.

  674. Tina says:

    Kyle Cheney
    @kyledcheney
    WOW. Trey GOWDY addresses Trump’s lawyer this AM:

    “if you have an innocent client Mr. Dowd, act like it.”
    Show this thread

    Rooster time.

    Something must be in the sc wa wa.

  675. Tina says:

    Bimgo, they want sessions do really be doing nothing uh nuffin

  676. Tina says:

    obiec ?? Retweeted
    Senator Rand Paul
    Senator Rand Paul
    @RandPaul
    ·
    2h
    This man had the power to search every American’s records without a warrant. What’s disgraceful is attacking the Bill of Rights and the freedom of every American.
    John O. Brennan
    @JohnBrennan
    When the full extent of your venality, moral turpitude, and political corruption becomes known, you will take your rightful place as a disgraced demagogue in the dustbin of history. You may scapegoat Andy McCabe, but you will not destroy America…America will triumph over you. (link: https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/974859881827258369) twitter.com/realdonaldtrum…

    Finalky….

  677. Hugh says:

    Trey Gowdy is a smart guy who has not figured out that an actual court room trial is different than vying for political optics. Trey has been very ineffective. I get it that he is uncomfortable with the politicization of all this but that is why I’m glad he is not running again.

  678. Tgca says:

    700!!!

  679. Tina says:

    The rooster is all bluster, and full of failure,

    Failed politician.

    And a hillary enabler.

  680. Tgca says:

    Well, I agree with Gowdy on the issue that Trump’s lawyer should keep his mouth shut because the way he said what he said buys into the whole obstruction argument. Let Trump tweet himself away about the unfairness because folks expect that but keep your lawyers out of it. You do not want an aggressive investigator trying to call your lawyers as witness in an obstruction case which I believe Mueller is trying to build. This does not serve POTUS, especially after the lawyer had to backtrack and restate his comment later on.

  681. Tina says:

    He should continue to counsel trump on

    No interview with mukehead.

    And not met a bare minimum standard of an appearance of a crime being committed.

  682. Tina says:

    His attorneys were way too accomodating to mukehead.

    Gloves are off now.

    Red line crossed withte subpoena into the organization,

    Mulehead is going down.

  683. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    2h
    Mulehead’s investigation has all the Koup Klutz Klan essentially wrapped up in Wonder Woman’s golden lasso: they can’t go anywhere, and they can’t lie.
    6
    49
    164

  684. Tina says:

    And a reason why we do not want a 2nd sc.

    Let sessions handle it through the ig and sessions prosecutor outside of dc,

  685. Tina says:

    John Cardillo
    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    ·
    34s
    Hey, Cabin Boy, those Pina Coladas aren’t going to deliver themselves to the Lido Deck.
    Bill Kristol
    @BillKristol
    To Republicans who have carefully kept your powder dry, who have studiously maintained access to Trump and credibility with Trump supporters: You’re not being asked to do much. Just step up and say, “Mr. President: Respect the rule of law. Leave the Mueller investigation alone.”

  686. Tina says:

    Spoken like a true socialist.

  687. Tgca says:

    703 Agreed

    But the lawyer should not put himself in s position where he becomes part of the investigation into potential obstruction. This serves no purpose to POTUS. Deny the charges, but don’t get into the gory details where you are then a potential witness. That is stupid. Mueller will get as aggressive as he has to be if he believes the tides are turning against him which I believe they are. It does not matter what can be proved in court. That is not his job. He just wants to secure an indictment and then hand it over to DOJ to decide next steps. You do not need POTUS own lawyers help you to do that by fabricating intent. Remember, getting an indictment is not that difficult due to the one-sided nature of the process and the low standards of evidence not up for cross examination.

  688. Tina says:

    Mulehead is running out of time.

    This needs to end,

    None of the rs are mentioning this,

    It cannot be endless.

    Doj can handle the process crimes, such as fara registration, taxes, etc. mukehead is too expensive at this point for the results.

  689. Tina says:

    And the attorneys have every right to speak on the matter.

    They have been too kind and too quiet and too respectful for almost a year to mukehead and his ds.

  690. Tina says:

    Byron York@ByronYork·52m
    Why in the world would Trump think the FBI leadership was against him? Could it stem from first meeting, when FBI message to president-elect was: We know about you and those hookers in Moscow?

    All from the dossier that they had, paid for, or used steele, a foreigner, as an asset.

    All unverified.

  691. mnw says:

    I wish Trump would shut up— especially when he’s winning.

  692. Phil says:

    714

    Absolutely. Trump is letting Brennan and Power bait him. He is winning. He needs to show some discipline. How often do we say that.

  693. mnw says:

    Phil

    A LOT. That often.

  694. Tgca says:

    711. Tina

    The point is not whether they have a right, of course, they have a right to attack the special counsel. The issue is whether it serves POTUS. A number of legal folks now question whether statements by Trump lawyers, including admitting to tweeting from the POTUS account opens them up to personal cross examination and becoming witnesses because they went beyond counseling and now admitted to tweeting for POTUS on his behalf from his account. That is the issue here. Other lawyers have been snagged similarly by becoming part of the case under investigation as opposed to being counsel to someone under investigation. It’s STUPID!!! Let Trump tweet away but don’t let his lawyers start accessing his personal account and tweeting opinions and info from it when folks thinks it’s POTUS, and it’s really his lawyers. Again, this is STUPID!!!

  695. Tgca says:

    According to Newsmax

    Lindsay Graham calls for a Senate hearing on McCabe firing and states:

    – if Trump fires Mueller, it would be the beginning of the end of his presidency,

    – Mueller should only be fired for cause and he sees no cause at this time,

    – Mueller is doing a good job

    I suspect Graham is being deliberately coy here, like foot tapping under a bathroom stall…is that you McCain?

    He wants to lecture Trump a bit but would also love to out all the dirt on McCabe and have him contradict Comey or others in a very public hearing sure to get lotsa media attention.

  696. Tina says:

    Goober also wants a hearing into mccabe.

    Figured these never trumoers, like goober, rooster, rubio, et. Al woukd act stupidly.

    Go on tee vee and buy into drat logic,

    Just say, ope and oig recommended the firing,

    Mccabe has been under investigarion since 2016.

    Come on CoC Rs act like an opposition

  697. Tgca says:

    According to Newsmax:

    Lil Marco thinks:
    – McCabe should have been allowed to retire with his benefits

    – there’s other ways to hold people accountable.

    Really, lil Marco….and how would you hold a retired employee collecting full benefits accountable for egregious work violations once they are gone from the workplace? How does that send a message to discourage others’ bad behavior?

    Maybe lil Marco can write McCabe a letter on his official Senate stationary and lecture him for being a bad bad boy and let Lil Marco’s words be a caution to him.

    …and he wonders why folks turned against him and he lost his presidential bid. Establishment Marco!!!

  698. Tina says:

    Lil Ma co loves the foam parties and hia boots.

  699. jason says:

    I think McCabe should keep his benefits too. I think he earned them regardless if he lied at the end of his career.

    Somewhat akin to a General or Admiral who screws up but is allowed to retire at a lower grade.

    I think the same should happen to McCabe, so I can see where Rubio is coming from.

    I am not in favor of taking away somebody’s benefits 2 days before retirement.

    I don’t know if he could be demoted, but that would be a more appropriate punishment.

  700. Phil says:

    I don’t really care about this guy’s pension. I might point out, however that this guy and his friends had absolutely no problem doing everything in their power to put the fix in to clear criminal Hillary and save her campaign – and then manipulate and lie to bring down a duly elected president.

    He gets no tears from me.

  701. Chicon says:

    Screwing up is making an error, an accidental thing done with good intention. Lying under oath to a federal officer is not screwing up – it is intentionally doing the wrong thing.

    Imo, administratively, he should be treated just like any other agent who did the same thing.

  702. Chicon says:

    Imo, if McCabe lied under oath, he should be treated exactly the same by the Justice Department as was Flynn for lying under oath.

  703. Tina says:

    He gets his oension…

    Not now at age 50.

    When he is 57,

  704. Tina says:

    Mccabe also ruined the career of a woman who reported harassment charges against him

    Her career ended.

    He also made flynn go broker because flynn profvided a statement in that ladys behalf. Set up flynn for the pete the cheat interview, based on an illegal unmasking.

    The oig investigations began years ago..

    Now since he lied, it is criminal

  705. jason says:

    Trump at 43% on NBC poll (+4)

    Trump’s rising in approval comes from:

    Republican respondents (up 6 percent): 78 percent approve in January to 84 percent this month in March
    White men (up 7 percent): 52 to 59 percent
    Independents (up 12 percent): 33 to 45 percent.

    Respondents favor Dem congress by 10 … 50-40″

  706. Tgca says:

    Jason

    I disagree. If you behave in an egregious manner, and abuse your office, and get away with what you otherwise send people to prison for, the punishment should fit the crime.

    For example, McCabe was part of the plot to destroy Flynn, and look what happened to him financially. It’s a grotesque abuse of power and simply firing someone is not a remedy. Everyone at the FBI already knows you can be fired for lying and leaking but then go and get hired elsewhere by cronies while collecting from the government. However, if you attach to that a loss of accrued benefits, that does send a much stronger signal that may caution others in the future.

    Most licensed professionals lose their right to earn an income in their chosen field so doing something similar to egregious acts by government employees should have similar consequences.

  707. Tina says:

    I think its adults, at l ast the congr. Generic.

    Since its nbc it is filed in the thrash.

  708. jason says:

    I don’t care if they throw the book at McCabe, he can go to jail for all I care.

    I just think pensions are earned for time served and I think he has earned his pension.

    But if as Tina says he gets his pension anyway at 57 that’s good enough.

  709. Tina says:

    Mccabe had three investigations into him.

    One includes or included the hatch act violation.

    You cannot overlook the insurance policy discussion in his office.

  710. Tina says:

    His pension can be stripped completely, if he is convicted of a criminal matter.

    He loses 7 yrs. of benefits. He also does not get medical.

  711. Tina says:

    His 401k is untouched.

  712. jason says:

    I disagree. If you behave in an egregious manner, and abuse your office, and get away with what you otherwise send people to prison for, the punishment should fit the crime.”

    That’s fine. Let Flynn sue him then. Throw him in jail. Demote him.

    But he worked for whatever time it was to earn the pension, so I think he should get his pension.

    Same for the captains of the Navy ships involved in collisions. Kick them out of the Navy, demote them, court martial them. But I think whatever they are entitled to up to that point they should get.

    Sue me.

  713. Tina says:

    It is telling that even the fbi union is not defending mccabe.

  714. Tina says:

    He gets his pension, jason. He cannot get it at 50. He can get it at 57.

  715. Tgca says:

    Yes, the clarification is that he can’t retire early with fully benefits.

    What about these other lives McCabe destroyed? They were forced to leave government service because of what he did to them, and that’s denying them otherwise accruing benefits as well.

    He signed on to the FBI knowing these rules but chose to violate them and lie and he got caught so those are the terms of his employment. He gambled he would not get caught and he did, knowing he could be caught and fired early, impacting his pension so he can’t complain when caught.

    It’s not like they applied this rule to him only. It’s applucable to all FBI personnel. Doesn’t matter if you’re a year away or a day away from full benefits.

  716. jason says:

    Most licensed professionals lose their right to earn an income in their chosen field so doing something similar to egregious acts by government employees should have similar consequences.”

    Apples and oranges.

    Nobody is saying he gets to “earn an income” in the future as a government employee.

  717. Tina says:

    He loses 7 years of oension benefits as well as his medical,

  718. Tgca says:

    736 Jason

    Send me your full name and address and I will sue you for stupidity.

    Hugs and kisses, as always

  719. Tgca says:

    Remember, there is a difference between negligence and gross misconduct that is malicious with intent to harm others. I hope he is forced into bankruptcy and loses his house as well. Screw his kids, they can work their way through college like many of us did. This probably won’t happen because his wife is a pediatrician and will now have to support the family.

    I have no absolutely empathy for a diabolical, conniving scum using ogovernment power to oppress and destroy others, especially when it involves sending folks to jail for minor infractions of the law.

  720. jason says:

    I am with Rubio on this, taking away his pension is petty and penny ante BS.

    Concentrate on the big picture there is much bigger fish to fry.

    Don’t make it into an HR case.

  721. Tina says:

    He has a nw of $11 million.

  722. Tina says:

    The recommendatio to fire came from the oig and opr. Sesssions confirmed those determinations.

  723. jason says:

    I bet in the end McCabe keeps his pension regardless.

    What is stupid is making the whole thing about his pension rather than the underlying lies and misleading statements and the conflicts of interest.

    So while Tgca concentrates on trying to take his pension away maybe the rest of us can focus on what’s really important here.

  724. Tgca says:

    Drudge says

    #NotHer

    Streisand says she’s never been sexually harassed.

    I totally believe that!!!

    I also believe no one has ever sexually harassed

    Rosie O’Donnell
    Whoopi
    Joy Behar
    .
    .
    .

  725. jason says:

    Tina says:
    March 18, 2018 at 4:38 pm

    He has a nw of $11 million.”?

    So what? I don’t care if he is a billionaire, I still think he is entitled to whatever benefits he accrued during his service.

    IF he actually gets convicted of a crime and that is the policy at the FBI, you lose your pension, so be it.

    But we are not there yet.

  726. jason says:

    The reason Streisand has never been harassed is because she doesn’t know any Republicans.

  727. jason says:

    He loses 7 years of oension benefits as well as his medical,”

    Ok, that makes more sense, more like a demotion where he gets less.

  728. Tgca says:

    1st of all Jason, sweetie, honey, pumpkin

    No one said to take his pension away specifically as part of the firing. That was automatic kick-in as part of the system if he did not attain his years of service. He should have been fired in Dec when the IG evidently 1st reported this, and his supervisor forced him into leave. He still would have list these benefits if fired in Dec because those are the rules under the FBI service agreement.

    This is a Sessions issue again. He is weak and indecisive. If McCabe was fired in Dec or Jan, this would not be an issue.

    But I also see the point of why should we let this guy retire with full benefits because if he was fired in Dec or Jan, he would be in the same place with respect to his benefits, and we would not be discussing this.

    I guess Sessions was too busy chasing folks smoking pot and too busy to make a decision until the last day.

  729. Tina says:

    i do not care about the pension matter, It is now a criminal matter.

  730. Tina says:

    You have to allow a process for his firing. That is what was done in december,

  731. Tgca says:

    751

    I think that’s what we’ve been saying for 2 days. It’s the media that portrays it differently. Either way, I don’t care if he loses 7 years or loses it in perpetuity. Did Flynn or the woman who filed the harass have those choices?

    He needs to be made a severe example of so others know there are consequences. Remember, many leave the FBI for other jobs expecting to have 2x income but if that is at risk, then they will think twice before engaging in egregious behavior.

  732. Tina says:

    Folks this is the nub: McCabre’s lawyer said he hasn’t seen many of the docs because he can’t have access to ongoing GRAND JURY info.

  733. Tina says:

    The to e of mccabe and his lawyahs suggest criminal matter.

  734. Tina says:

    Falco
    @Nick_Falco
    McCabe was only given “limited access” to OIG Horowitz report, based on OPR policy & McCabe’s Lawyer statement, it’s certain McCabe has been under criminal investigation for months. It’s likely a Grand Jury has already been empanelled. A McCabe indictment could be imminent ?? (link: https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/975461814980022273) twitter.com/tracybeanz/sta…

    Boom.

  735. Tina says:

    Criminal indictments are likely forthcoming against mccabe,

    His hands are tied to the dossier, leaking, straling memos, and the flynn matter,

    He also has a hatch act violation.

  736. Tina says:

    Thomas Paine
    @Thomas1774Paine
    Parkland Student David Hogg in New Ad: ‘What If Our Politicians Weren’t the Bitch of the NRA?’ (VIDEO) (link: http://ow.ly/KTGa30j0ROo) ow.ly/KTGa30j0ROo

    More hogg please.

  737. Tgca says:

    As a leader, I’ve always known that I have a special duty when it comes to disciplinary actions over staff. I have to be careful to give folks an opportunity to learn from their experiences, including ones involving bad judgment. You must never let your authority make people feel they must bow to you and believe you control their destiny, as fear is not a good motivator as a leader. But for those few that could care less how they dominate and treat others and flaunt their power, fear should be a motivator of the repercussions that await them. Fear of losing full benefits is an excellent way to do that.

  738. jason says:

    Uh oh….

    Et tu, Adam?

    Adam Schiff: Andrew McCabe’s firing “may be justified”

  739. Tgca says:

    This Hogg kid is so dumb. Unless he goes into politics, or as a boy toy in Hollywood, good luck getting a job at anywhere when you’re viewed as a troublemaker. No one wants to hire someone who tries to rile up folks up to a cause and fight management. How’s he gonna answer questions about calling those that disagree with him b*tches and threatening authority that if they don’t succumb to his wishes, he will try to start a mutiny. This is not your ideal workplace candidate.

    Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame idiot!!!

  740. jason says:

    Sorry, “he should be made an example of” is already proof he would be treated differently.

    If someone is incompetent or dishonest or whatever, they should be fired long ago before the last 2 days before they retire.

    That they are not is not their fault, its the fault of the system or their supervisors.

    I know its tempting to take revenge, etc. but getting bogged down on what is really a side issue is not smart.

  741. jason says:

    He should have been fired in Dec when the IG evidently 1st reported this,”

    Zzzzzzzz… couda, wouda, shouda.

  742. Tgca says:

    764

    I agree but again, why did Sessions wait until the last day? It goes to his poor judgment. McCabe should have been terminated in Dec or Jan.

    I don’t think Sessions is up to the job. We need a strong, decisive AG, and not someone worried about what others will think.

    The facts are presented, you act on it and accept the consequences. You don’t wait until the last possible imoportune time to act because of what others might think if you don’t act decisively.

  743. jason says:

    And of course what is REALLY batsh-t stupid is implying Rubio is not fit to be President because he (rightfully so) opposes this penny ante crap.

  744. JC says:

    Adam Schiffhead knows that the ig report is about to drop

  745. jason says:

    In Session’s defense, we don’t really know what he is up to, what information he has etc.

    I think he is fine where he is.

    I think its good that he didn’t fire McCabe just on the pension issue. That wouldn’t have been “decisive” that would have been closer to petty.

  746. jason says:

    Adam Schiffhead knows that the ig report is about to drop”

    Does look that way, I am surprised he said that.

    He could have just said nothing.

  747. Tgca says:

    Rubio was not fit for POTUS…well…because he just wasn’t ready as Christie showed us all and lil Marco kept rambling the same lines like 3 times instead of providing a coherent response. I guess no one ever told lil Marco what to do if his memorized speech went off cue.

  748. Tina says:

    Rubio is a bust.

    Cannot believe that hush called him a dep throated conservative.

    So much promise.

  749. Tina says:

    Where did schiff, the russian stooge, say that at?

  750. Tgca says:

    772

    I’m sure Marco has deep throated conservatives before. After all, LisaB says he goes to foam parties and we all heard what goes on in them places. Yep!

  751. jason says:

    Rubio was not fit for POTUS…well…because he just wasn’t ready as Christie showed us all and lil Marco kept rambling the same lines like 3 times instead of providing a coherent response. I guess no one ever told lil Marco what to do if his memorized speech went off cue.?

    LOL

    He won like 7 debates in a row..and had the best put down of the season when he eviscerated Jeb.

    He certainly was as qualified for President as Trump was (actually a lot more qualified).

  752. jason says:

    Brit Hume’s tweet is good…

    “There are some limbs even Adam Schiff won’t to out on”…

    Heh.

  753. jason says:

    Go out…

  754. Tgca says:

    I agree we don’t know all of what Sessions is up to, and I hope it’s good but I still think he is too meek and mild for that role. He was a small state prosecutor and the AG really needs to be a rough and tough role, given the DC environment.

    Remember, like it or not, this whole Mueller issue is because Sessions was more worried about how he would be seen as non-partisan by all and recused himself without 1st counseling POTUS. This will go down as the biggest blunder in AG history. I’m sure future AG nominees will be asked how they would handle such conflicts.

    Sessions is like the guy in HI who set off the sirens without realizing it. You never live down such a bad mistake no matter how good you do going forward. I hope he just steps aside before the 2018 election.

  755. jason says:

    Anybody who doesn’t think Marco Rubio is a steadfast conservative is a moron.

    This guy WAS the personification of the Tea Party, not Rand Paul.

    I laugh when I see the deadender litmus test morons question Rubio’s conservatism… how soon do we forget?

    “Rubio, a self-styled “movement conservative” whose parents were exiled from Castro’s Cuba, is a great hope to a party that has suffered an exodus of Hispanic voters in recent elections. He made the cover of National Review, won the endorsement of the Club for Growth, a conservative imprimatur and A.T.M., and has drawn big love from George Will, Karl Rove and Rush Limbaugh, the Palm Beach resident. Sarah Palin has not spoken publicly about the race, but Rubio supporters who met her during book stops in Florida say she spoke glowingly of Rubio, and it would surprise no one if she endorsed him.

    Crist has all along been the establishment candidate, whose blessings from entities like John McCain, the Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell and the chairman of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, John Cornyn, are seen by many conservatives as proof that Crist is the same-old vintage of Republican from the party’s 2006 and 2008 debacles. “Conservatives don’t need to be served these cookie-cutter candidates like Charlie Crist,” the conservative blogger Michelle Malkin said in a speech to conservative women, which I attended last summer in Nashville. “Otherwise we’re just going to keep getting the same results.” The room exploded in applause. It was the first time I had heard of Marco Rubio. Everyone else in that room of hard-core activists seemed to know exactly who he was.

    If Rubio defeats Crist on Aug. 24, conservatives will see the victory as a signal that Republicans should not compromise to try to appeal to moderates. “There was all this talk that conservatives couldn’t win in certain states, like Pennsylvania or Florida,” Jim DeMint, the South Carolina senator, told me. “We had to go out and find middle-of-the-road Republicans who could bridge the gap between Republicans and independents. So when someone like Rubio came along, who is not milquetoast, not lukewarm, who very clearly is a conservative, an American, and independents flock to him, it sends a message.”

  756. Tgca says:

    I don’t think beating Jeb in a debate is too hard.

    Besides, when the heat got on, Marco crumbled. Marco is a rehearsed candidate and not one quick on his feet like some more experienced folks.

    I disagree on POTUS qualifications. Knowing government and processes is not the same as leading the good fight. I seriously doubt the GOP would have any of the successes it has now under any of the other 14 or so establishment candidates. If they could not do it under GWB when they had the numbers, it wasn’t gonna happen again with any GWB-lite ones. Trump pushed them into these successes with constant reminders and rallying the base.

  757. JC says:

    Jason,

    We’ve had the number 2 guy at the FBI recommended to be fired by his own internal department for grossly abusing his power to destroy his enemies. His actions afterwards – running to Mueller like a crying school girl carrying his ‘notes’ – demonstrates this revenge mindset perfectly.

    ‘How dare you come after me? I’ll ruin you Mr. President!’/

    And yet, despite this stunning abuse of power, here we have politicians like Rubio defending the very (powerful) people who detest and hate us. Again.

    My only explanation for this is that Rubio just has no clue what’s going on and legitimately accepts the narrative that the media pushes. That even though he is a conservative, he still views the world through the lens of the liberal media filter, and thus seeks to save his own skin by distancing himself from the people that the media demonizes. Even when those people are on his side, as they almost always are.

    And that’s the problem with Rubio. He is not on our side when it counts. When things start getting rough, his first instinct is to throw us under the bus in an effort to not get lumped in with the current media smear of the week. He is not brave. He does not defend us. He only defends himself, even if it means joining the media in their smears.

    Rubio does not behave like a leader. Leaders put themselves between the attackers and his supporters. Whatever you think of Trump, whenever the media insinuates that his supporters are racists or bigots, he defends them with total conviction and zero doubt.

    Trump would say: ‘My supporters are wonderful people. Loving people. They’re police officers and veterans. Factory workers. Really great patriots. They are not racist. You are Fake News!’

    If the media insinuated to Rubio that his supporters were bigots, he would probably reply like this: ‘I stand against all bigotry no matter where it comes from. Even from my side’.

    One defends his side from the smear and fires back. The other dodges from the smear and lets his side take the hit.

  758. JC says:

    FIXED FORMATTING REPOST

    Jason,

    We’ve had the number 2 guy at the FBI recommended to be fired by his own internal department for grossly abusing his power to destroy his enemies. His actions afterwards – running to Mueller like a crying school girl carrying his ‘notes’ – demonstrates this revenge mindset perfectly.

    ‘How dare you come after me? I’ll ruin you Mr. President!’

    And yet, despite this stunning abuse of power, here we have politicians like Rubio defending the very (powerful) people who detest and hate us. Again.

    My only explanation for this is that Rubio just has no clue what’s going on and legitimately accepts the narrative that the media pushes. That even though he is a conservative, he still views the world through the lens of the liberal media filter, and thus seeks to save his own skin by distancing himself from the people that the media demonizes. Even when those people are on his side, as they almost always are.

    And that’s the problem with Rubio. He is not on our side when it counts. When things start getting rough, his first instinct is to throw us under the bus in an effort to not get lumped in with the current media smear of the week. He is not brave. He does not defend us. He only defends himself, even if it means joining the media in their smears.

    Rubio does not behave like a leader. Leaders put themselves between the attackers and his supporters. Whatever you think of Trump, whenever the media insinuates that his supporters are racists or bigots, he defends them with total conviction and zero doubt.

    Trump would say: ‘My supporters are wonderful people. Loving people. They’re police officers and veterans. Factory workers. Really great patriots. They are not racist. You are Fake News!’

    If the media insinuated to Rubio that his supporters were bigots, he would probably reply like this: ‘I stand against all bigotry no matter where it comes from. Even from my side’.

    One defends his side from the smear and fires back. The other dodges from the smear and lets his side take the hit.

  759. Tgca says:

    781

    My point was that the Rubio of 2010 was not the same Rubio after a few years in DC. He changed, was humbled in 2016, and hopefully will learn from that humbling experience to be a better candidate. He was not ready for POTUS and let his arrogance get in the way. He thought because he was Latin that that alone was going to convince others he was the GOP savior? Well, along came Ted Cruz and he was much more of a devout conservative than Marco.

    My point is Marco got too cocky, the people of FL humiliated him in the primary, and he then apologized for his bad behavior and vowed to be a good senator for FL. He is so lucky that others stepped aside to let him run again or he’d be employed again by a law firm as a favor to one of his benefactors as he was in the past.

    I’ll give him another chance to make good….but just one chance. Forget the deepthroatong at foam parties and focus on representing Floridians. 🙂

  760. Tgca says:

    Ok. Well I gotta take a break from all this. Besides, I just got a text from a friend about attending a foam party in Miami tonight. I’m hoping to see Lil Marco there.

  761. Tina says:

    Thanks, jason, read that article and caught humes tweet.

  762. Tgca says:

    788

    Marco the douchebag!

  763. Wes says:

    Tg posts the following in Post 788:

    788

    Marco the douchebag!

    Curiouser and curiouser.

  764. Tgca says:

    As others previously reported and noted in this reporting, the IG recommended the firing and the FBI ethics office agreed. Marco knows that and that Trump had nothing to do with the termination. It’s jst another opportunity to try to suck up to the MSM and others as JC previously pointed out. Marco thinks this will somehow endear him to others and make him relevant again. It won’t. It only exposes him as desperate. He wants to be the lil darling senator he once was but he lost that when caved in with the gang of eight and became an establishment suck-up, and then got schooled by Chris Christie.

  765. Phil says:

    I strongly supported Rubio for President. That said, I’ve watched him “evolve” during the seven years he has been in Washington and I don’t like the trend.

    Perhaps Marco should have waited until he sees the final IG report before he jumps into bed with the likes of McCabe.

    Very disappointing.

  766. Wes says:

    Marco Rubio took out Jim Jeffords 2.0, Charlie Crist, and then ended the short-lived political career of ne’er-do-well playboy Patrick Murphy. Rubio gets a hearty thumbs up from me for those victories.

  767. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    With the Tar Heels’ loss to Texas A&M today, UNC Coach and anti-Trumper Roy Williams won’t be able to preen while turning down a White House invitation.
    Bye- Bye!!!

  768. Tgca says:

    Wes

    Sorry! I apologize. I meant dirtbag. I would never use inappropriate language in a wholesome family website like HHR. It’s the Siri auto spell correction.

  769. Wes says:

    You misunderstood my point, Tg. I was wondering why you were responding to the very post you were typing.

  770. Tgca says:

    Wes

    Time for reading glasses. Welcome to middle age.

    My post was 789. Tina was 788.

    That being said, I’m still ashamed Siri attributed a foul-mouth rant to me. I grew up in northeast NJ…we would never use such language.

    F*ck you Siri!

  771. Tina says:

    Rubio has been a disappointment.

    Amnesty, the sheot show during the debates, the boots, the pandering at the school,shooting , and now mccabe.

    I cannot defend him.

  772. Wes says:

    Time for your own reading glasses, Tg. I posted this in 789:

    Tg posts the following in Post 788:

    788

    Marco the douchebag!

    Curiouser and curiouser.

  773. Tgca says:

    800!!! Yay!

  774. Tgca says:

    Hit your Reset your button. Mine shows I posted in 789. Tina posted in 788.

  775. Tina says:

    Its bizarro world

    Shifty p, the russian stooge, sqid the firing was ok.

    Rubio, the deep throated conservative, per rush, supports mccabe.

    And then the r stooges, let mulehead finish, yes, let him, but like to orrow, not 2020.

  776. Tina says:

    Did the CoC Republicans even comment in the threats to the president by brennan?

    No.

  777. Tgca says:

    Tina

    Settle this important debate. Who posted in 788 and then 789? Inquiring minds want to know if Wes needs reading glasses.

  778. Tina says:

    On my screen, 787 is mine.

    788 is your post.

  779. Tina says:

    rticle and caught humes tweet.

    Tina says:
    March 18, 2018 at 6:56 pm
    http://thegatewaypundit.com/2018/03/figures-marco-rubio-defends-mccabe-trashes-trump-mccabe-firing-video/

    Disastrous showing by lil marco.

    Tgca says:
    March 18, 2018 at 7:08 pm
    788

  780. JC says:

    The number next to the posts may not always match up with everyone else. Posts pending moderation approval will count as a numbered post but others won’t see it.

  781. Bitterlaw says:

    708 Spoken like a true socialist?

    Does Tina that socialism involves taxation and state ownership? It is silent on investigations.

    Jason said to not fire Mueller. I guess Tina thinks he is a socialist

    Firing Mueller would be worse than just ignoring him and let him continue to find nothing.

  782. Tgca says:

    Tina. The question is what # is your post? Mine shows you posted at 788 and I posted at 789.

    Wes says I posted at 788.

  783. Tina says:

    Does bitter know that the socialist through his support to oprah in 2020,all from the deck chair of the uss minnow?

  784. Bitterlaw says:

    JC is correct. These threads go on so long it is possible to forget a post put into moderation 300 posts ago.

  785. Tina says:

    See jcs post, it has to do with posts in moderation,

  786. Tina says:

    Threw.

  787. JC says:

    So Rubio’s new moniker is ‘deep-throated conservative’.

    I like it.

  788. Tina says:

    So, keystal meth is no conservative or repubkican.

    I consider myself as a conservative.

    Since groper 41 reign, i left the party.

  789. Tina says:

    Hush bimbo gave rubio that moniker.

    At the time, blimpie bimbo called rubio a full throated conservative. They were on their way to doing an amnesty deal and hush was invited.

  790. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – No. I don’t follow Kristol or watch him.you are my source on him.

    I would consider breaking my rule to always support the incumbent in a primary if there was a credible opponent who could beat Trump AND the Dem nominee. If they could only beat Trump but lose to the Dem, I would vote for Trump.

  791. Tina says:

    The coc rs need to say on tv.

    The oresident never called for mulehead to be fired, so your question is incorrect.

    Mulehead needs to finish sooner rather than later, the investigation i to. Uh collusion has been going on for two plus years.

    Mulehead does not have an unlimited charge account.

  792. Bitterlaw says:

    I am also a conservative. Trump is not. I have no allegiance to him. I just did not Hillary to win.

  793. Tina says:

    Well, you seem to defend the socialist at all costs, much like you defended comedy and said i was jealous of the walking drapery.

  794. Tgca says:

    So Rubio is now upset that firms are gathering and analyzing data from Facebook without users knowledge for use in targeting political ads. Oh my!

    Is Rubio concerned that marketers are doing that for retailers as well? You know how much junk email I receive from Adam and Eve, smitten kitten, Jack and Jill, and the Pleasure Emporium. Get real dude!!!

  795. Tina says:

    And then add

    Its a shame that mulehead hired all drats. It woukd be better if it were bipartisan and some rs were added. It is also ashame that pete the cheat damaged his investigation.

  796. Tina says:

    Obama did the same thing to facebook in 2012and of course rhe rs were sikent,

    The modern r oarty is full of weenies.

  797. mnw says:

    Trump sez he’s going after the opiod crisis.

    OK, but the infamous “pill mills” where shady American doctors wrote script for oxys? Those are 95% gone now.*

    The “opioid crisis” has 2 origins now: 1) heroin from Mexico, & 2) fentanyl, also from Mexico.

    Fentanyl is now being used to cut every damn thing— heroin; cocaine and meth. There is no safe fentanyl dosage. It’s fentanyl that’s causing almost ALL the “opioid overdose deaths” these days.

    * Thanks, DEA.

  798. Tgca says:

    Per Drudge link

    Gay sex robots: Demand skyrockets at brothel as heterosexuals ‘want to try male cyborgs’

    I feel violated.

    ”Lumidolls, the world’s first sex doll brothel in Barcelona, Spain, has started offering a male sex doll to curious straight men looking to “experiment” with homosexuality.

    These clients, described as “bi-curious”, request the masculine sex doll because they do not want to be involved “with a real guy”, Lumidolls co-owner Sergi Prieto told Daily Star Online.”

  799. mnw says:

    sb “opioid”

  800. Bitterlaw says:

    I only defended him against your 2 accusations:

    1. Because his father was a socialist that he must be a socialist.

    2. That he is a socialist because he does not like Trump.

    I voted for Trump and hate him. Does that make a socialist, Tina?

  801. Tgca says:

    Mnw

    Build a wall!!!

  802. Tina says:

    Rubio shoukd know better. Mccabe is under criminal investigation.

    His attorney states so when he mentions access to evidence,

    Counsel are not permitted access to certain confidential criminal investigative information and may not be permitted access to grand jury information.. (link)

  803. Bitterlaw says:

    If you are “bi-curious” you are really gay. Just admit it.

  804. Bitterlaw says:

    I meant that about men.

  805. mnw says:

    Sounds like just the thing for “cock curious” Zero, Tgca.

  806. Tina says:

    https://www.justice.gov/opr/about-office-and-opr-policies-and-procedures

    ASSISTANCE OF COUNSEL

    The majority of OPR investigations are administrative in nature, and employees are not entitled to counsel as a matter of law. However, counsel may be permitted if counsel does not interfere with or delay the interview. Counsel must be actually retained by the employee as his legal representative, not as an observer. Counsel are not permitted access to certain confidential criminal investigative information and may not be permitted access to grand jury information.

    POST INVESTIGATION PROCEDURES

    At the conclusion of the investigation, OPR prepares a report of investigation in which it makes findings of fact and reaches conclusions as to whether the subject attorney committed professional misconduct. OPR may find the subject attorney committed professional misconduct by: (1) intentionally violating a clear and unambiguous obligation or standard imposed by law, applicable rule of professional conduct, or Department regulation or policy; or (2) recklessly disregarding his obligation to comply with that obligation or standard. OPR may also find that the attorney exercised poor judgment or made a mistake. A poor judgment finding may lead to disciplinary action; a mistake finding does not.

    Once OPR completes its report of investigation, the subject attorney and the component head are officially notified of the results of the investigation. If OPR determines that the subject attorney committed professional misconduct, prior to issuing a final report, the subject attorney, pursuant to a confidentiality agreement, and the component head may review the draft report, comment on the factual findings, and offer arguments as to why OPR should alter its conclusions. OPR will consider the comments and incorporate them into the final report, to the extent OPR considers it appropriate.

    OPR may include in its report information relating to management and policy issues noted in the course of the investigation for consideration by Department officials.

    Pursuant to 28 C.F.R. § 0.39a and OPR’s routine uses under the Privacy Act, OPR also notifies the complainant of the results of the investigation.

  807. Tgca says:

    Are you bi curious if you wear a salmon colored jacket?

  808. Tina says:

    Imo, the ig horowitz is working closely with the unnamed prosecutor out of dc that sessions mentioned weeks ago.

    This is better than having a second sc.

  809. Tina says:

    The keast that congress knows of sessions, the prosecutor outside of dc, and horowitz, while they are investigating, charging, impaneling a grand jury, the better.

    Let the confress cditters go on tv and make fools of themselves.

  810. Hugh says:

    820. Agreed what decade is Rubio living in. If you don’t like how social media’s are used for marketing everything on a system they did not create that we dumbassses pay for to have garbage pushed at us break them up. Btw that’s what I believe should happen.

  811. Hugh says:

    833.. yes

  812. JC says:

    mnw says:
    March 18, 2018 at 7:51 pm
    Sounds like just the thing for “cock curious” Zero, Tgca
    ————————

    I believe this is called futanari.

    BTW, why leave out the furry cyborgs? Let’s not be speciest.

  813. Bitterlaw says:

    From Merriam-Webster:

    Definition of socialism

    1 : any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods

    2 a : a system of society or group living in which there is no private property

    b : a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state

    3 : a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done

    I read it twice. Nothing in there about the Mueller investigation or criticizing Trump.

  814. NYCmike says:

    One of the Scout Dads is in the military….they have a saying “once a c@cksucker, always a c@cksucker!”.

  815. NYCmike says:

    McCabe – if he is not found guilty, he will probably get his pension restored….until then, take a long walk on a short pier to let off steam, Andy.

    As for Jason and Rubio, tone-deaf.

  816. Tina says:

    3 see oprah

    4, re the tax cut, my inner socialism says its no good.

    Thiose came from his tweets from the Lido Deck.

  817. Tina says:

    https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/291632/
    “However, McCabe may have rectified his “singled out” status with his long statement criticizing his termination: In the middle of it is a line that could be viewed as incriminating fired FBI director James Comey, not just in leaking sensitive information but also in lying to Congress.” ~ Turley, at The Hill

    Turley says mccabe inctiminated comedy.

  818. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not think Oprah or most Dems are socialists. They don’t want governments to own your property. They want you to own your property and they will tax the crap out of it.

  819. MichiganGuy says:

    ===============

    THE CLINTON DEAD POOL
    .
    1- James McDougal – Clintons convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr’s investigation.
    2 – Mary Mahoney – A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown .. The murder …happened just after she was to go public w:th her story of sexual harassment in the White House.
    3 – Vince Foster – Former White House counselor, and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock’s Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.
    4 – Ron Brown – Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown’s skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the Air Traffic controller commited suicide.
    5 – C. Victor Raiser, II – Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992.
    6 – Paul Tulley – Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock , September 1992. Described by Clinton as a “dear friend and trusted advisor”.
    7 – Ed Willey – Clinton fundraiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head. Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.
    8 – Jerry Parks – Head of Clinton’s gubernatorial security team in Little Rock .. Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock Park’s son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.
    9 – James Bunch – Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a “Black Book” of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas
    10 – James Wilson – Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater..
    11 – Kathy Ferguson – Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson, was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.
    12 – Bill Shelton – Arkansas State Trooper and fiancee of Kathy Ferguson. Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancee, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancee.
    13 – Gandy Baugh – Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.
    14 – Florence Martin – Accountant & sub-contractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seal, Mena, Arkansas, airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.
    15 – Suzanne Coleman – Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.
    16 – Paula Grober – Clinton’s speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992. She died in a one car accident.
    17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.
    18 – Paul Wilcher – Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 “October Surprise” was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993, in his Washington DC apartment had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.
    19 – Jon Parnell Walker – Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington ,Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993. He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.
    20 – Barbara Wise – Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death: Unknown. Died November 29, 1996. Her bruised, naked body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.
    21 – Charles Meissner – Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.
    22 – Dr. Stanley Heard – Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton ‘s advisory council personally treated Clinton’s mother, stepfather and brother.
    23 – Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.
    24 – Johnny Lawhorn, Jr. – Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.
    25 – Stanley Huggins – Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.
    26 – Hershell Friday – Attorney and Clinton fundraiser died March 1, 1994, when his plane exploded.
    27 – Kevin Ives & Don Henry – Known as “The boys on the track” case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.
    THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:
    28 – Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.
    29 – Keith McMaskle – Died, stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988
    30 – Gregory Collins – Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.
    31 – Jeff Rhodes – He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.
    32 – James Milan – Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to natural causes”.
    34 – Richard Winters – A suspect in the Ives/Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.
    THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE ALSO DEAD
    35 – Major William S. Barkley, Jr.
    36 – Captain Scott J . Reynolds
    37 – Sgt. Brian Hanley
    38 – Sgt. Tim Sabel
    39 – Major General William Robertson
    40 – Col. William Densberger
    41 – Col. Robert Kelly
    42 – Spec. Gary Rhodes
    43 – Steve Willis
    44 – Robert Williams
    45 – Conway LeBleu
    46 – Todd McKeehan
    And the most recent, Seth Rich, the DC staffer murdered and “robbed” (of nothing) on July 10. Wikileaks found Assange claims he had info on the DNC email scandal.
    Not Included in this list are the 4 men killed in Benghazi.
    Not the kind of person I want in charge of my country.
    GOD BLESS THE USA.
    .
    lasvegas.cbslocal.com/2016/08/10/the-list-of-clinton-associates-whove-died-mysteriously-check-it-out/
    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    Just seen this on Twitter. This article is from August 10, 2016 so, it’s probably missing many more. 🙁

  820. Bitterlaw says:

    I stopped reading when I saw Vince Foster’s name. You could probably put together a list for every President. I’m not saying that the Clinton’s are not corrupt. They are. Conspiracies are a big Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz to me.

    The victims at Benghazi were likely doomed anyway but Hillary did nothing to help them survive.

  821. mnw says:

    MG

    You know you are my conservative soul brother, but I don’t like the list AT ALL. It’s an insult to the intelligence, & an affront to common sense. No offense to you.

    Crap like that list encourages people who aren’t very bright to believe that invisible powers control everything, & thus taking action is hopeless.

    I’m still angry as hell about s CBS News screen crawl in 1977, on the 15th anniversary of JFK’s murder— consisting of a long list of nonentities who were supposedly connected to the assassination in some minor way, who died “under mysterious circumstances.”

    “Mrs. Jean Jones was standing outside the book depository in 1963. She was killed by a hit & run driver in 1971. No arrest was ever made.”

    Your list, frankly, is even worse.

    Message? “Give up. We’re powerless to resist.”

  822. mnw says:

    sb 1978

  823. jason says:

    do not think Oprah or most Dems are socialists”

    Believe me, they are socialists.

  824. jason says:

    Rubio, the deep throated conservative, per rush, supports mccabe.”

    Zzzzz…. he supports McCabe as much as I support him.

    He thinks this pension grabbing BS is a crock and so do I.

  825. jason says:

    Hey MG, do you believe Area 51 is a UFO base?

  826. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – I disagree. Dems know they can bring in more money by letting you own property/run businesses. No cost to them and they take the rewards.

  827. jason says:

    n. Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash.”

    HIs plane flew into a mountain, there were no survivors among the 34 on board.

    Whoever shot him before it hit the mountain just wanted to make sure?

  828. Tgca says:

    NYC

    Your comment is vile and disgusting. I resemble that remark!


    NYCmike says:
    March 18, 2018 at 8:43 pm
    One of the Scout Dads is in the military….they have a saying “once a c@cksucker, always a c@cksucker!”.

  829. MichiganGuy says:

    GOP U.S. Senate straw poll at the Virginia Tea Party spring conference
    .
    Freitas 65%
    Stewart 35%
    .
    http://www.dailyprogress.com/news/state/stewart-freitas-scrap-in-first-debate-of-gop-u-s/article_bba2fd38-2b0b-11e8-8804-0fa2005c1a17.html

  830. jason says:

    Sorry Bitter you are completely deluded.

    The Dems don’t believe in free enterprise anymore, maybe some of their voters still do.

    Just about everyone in Congress, the MSM and “celebrities” are hard core Socialists if not Marxists.

    You theory is wishful thinking, they don’t really believe in private property or business.

    If they had their way they would socialize the entire medical field, the banking system, utilities, energy, mining, any industry considered “strategic”, etc.

  831. Tina says:

    They are socialists since they want taxes up and redistrivute the wealth.

  832. jason says:

    Stewart is a flaming deadender, don’t know anything about Freitas.

  833. Tgca says:

    A good summary from a story linked on RCP:

    The Coming Collusion Bloodbath


    There was collusion in the election of 2016. It involved Russians, a British ex-spy, law firms, FBI agents, DOJ attorneys, an FBI director that prejudged evidence, an Attorney General that had an unethical meeting with the spouse of a target, FISA warrants obtained on faulty information that stemmed from political sources, a Deputy Director whose wife received monetary support in an election, an FBI director who lied to Congress, an FBI Deputy Director who lied to the Justice Department’s Inspector General, loads of classified materials that were mishandled and criminally passed to those without clearances, and partisan hacks spearheading inquiries aiming for political outcomes.

    The scope of this collusion is overwhelming, the attempts are a damning indictment of political operatives that have lost all integrity, and sadly an administration, a major political party, and agents of a deep state that attempted in a wide sweeping number of ways to undo an election that they lost.

  834. Bitterlaw says:

    Sorry, Jason. I disagree. Dems know they make more for the government by taxing but not owning.

  835. MichiganGuy says:

    “Don King explained why the elites in charge of the corrupt system “put out a mandate” to “destroy and stop” Donald Trump, “whatever the cost.” In an interview on “Making Money with Charles Payne,” the most famous and successful boxing promoter ever said President Trump had forsaken the system out of “his love for the American people” and it now views him as a “betrayer.”
    .
    https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/politics/2018/03/18/don-king-donald-trumps-enemies-must-destroy-him-no-matter-cost/

  836. Bitterlaw says:

    The boxing promoter Don King? Probably not but I’m not reading it.

  837. MichiganGuy says:

    Yes, the boxing promoter Don King.

  838. Bitterlaw says:

    Oh. It was that Don King. Even less reason to read it now.

  839. MichiganGuy says:

    BL, go stick your head back in the sand.

  840. Bitterlaw says:

    MG – Get back in your echo chamber. Only read things that reinforce what you believe. Nothing challenging.

  841. jason says:

    Bitter is about 30 years too late in his assessment of Democrats.

    He still thinks its the party of Scoop Jackson.

  842. jason says:

    Dems know they make more for the government by taxing but not owning”

    Nahh… taxes are the just the avenue to the nanny state.

    You need to choke off the private sector first.

    High taxes are not the end, its just the avenue.

  843. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason is paranoid. Dems are not stupid. Why own everything when you can make money from not owning it?

  844. jason says:

    Don King is a murderer and a criminal or is that repeating myself?

    Why anyone would care what he says is beyond me.

  845. jason says:

    Why own everything when you can make money from not owning it?”

    LOL

    Like Dems are interested in “making money”.

    Money is the root of all evil, even the Communist Pope knows that.

    You are profoundly deluded if you think most Dems are not Marxists. Certainly 90% of Dems in Congress, the MSM and Hollywood are.

  846. jason says:

    MG, are you worried about those UFO bases on the dark side of the moon?

  847. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    March 18, 2018 at 10:49 pm
    MG – Get back in your echo chamber. Only read things that reinforce what you believe. Nothing challenging.
    ————————————————————————————————————————
    Zzzzzzzzzzzz You don’t have a clue what I read. Do you know where I get most of my polling info from?
    https://www.dailykos.com/blogs/elections/

  848. jason says:

    Keith Coney – Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.”

    Amazing he was killed. I am sure he would have survived were it not a conspiracy.

  849. jason says:

    You don’t have a clue what I read.”

    Actually, we do, you gave us the clues above.

    It looks like its a lot of garbage.

  850. jason says:

    Barry Seal – Drug running TWA pilot out of Mena Arkansas, death was no accident.”

    Yeah, after all drug running pilot is a very low risk occupation, were it not for the conspiracy he would have been flying drugs around until he was at least 95.

  851. jason says:

    Some kind of explosion in Austin.

  852. Bitterlaw says:

    My friends who are Dems but own businesses or are professionals are Marxists? Who knew?

  853. Tgca says:

    Putin wins in a landslide unexpectedly.

    Russian justice department state they may open an investigation into US interfering in the Russian elections.

    There is some concern that the Putin campaign may have colluded with Trump and associates to suppress and manipulate the Russian vote.

  854. Bitterlaw says:

    I have literally handled hundreds of cases involving accidents. I had no idea the Clinton’s were so active in PA and NJ.

  855. Tgca says:

    Why would Bitter befriend a Dem? He’s gone to the dark side.

  856. Bitterlaw says:

    Sorry. Sometimes Dems register for softball and basketball.

  857. Tgca says:

    Bitter

    Maybe you should have married a Dem or had a Dem gf or just tapped some Dem b*tches.

  858. Tgca says:

    So Stormy Daniels has a tour titled Make America Horny Again according to RCP Salon article linked titled Stormy Daniels is a Feminist Hero

    Incredible! You can’t make this chit up folks.

    Some excerpts from the article below include:

    If Clifford, an entrepreneurial, sex-positive woman, swoops in and causes the collapse of the Trump empire, what more could we ask for in the age of #MeToo?

    Clifford isn’t only a feminist hero because she’s fighting for her own voice, but because when she succeeds, she will likely open the door for the list of women who have accused Trump of sexually harassing or assaulting them to step forward, too

    Their alleged affair may have been consensual, but this is Clifford’s #MeToo story, and she deserves the same support of all the other women who have been brave enough to share theirs.

  859. MichiganGuy says:

    2 injured by explosions in Austin, Texas on Sunday, marking third incident in a week.
    .
    https://www.fox4now.com/news/national/2-injured-by-explosions-in-austin-texas-on-sunday-marking-third-incident-in-a-week

  860. lisab says:

    After all, LisaB says he goes to foam parties — tgca

    ———————————–

    he said he went to foam parties on national tv

  861. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    887. “he said he went to foam parties on national tv”

    Don’t remember seeing him at one on national TV. Maybe on Lawrence Welk since there were a lot of bubbles.

  862. lisab says:

    he said it on the tonight show

    it is not exactly a secret

  863. lisab says:

    Richard Pryor’s son booed off stage at the Apollo over anti-Trump jokes.

    a mostly black audience.

    (his joke was not funny)

  864. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    824. “Gay sex robots: Demand skyrockets at brothel as heterosexuals ‘want to try male cyborgs’. . first sex doll brothel in Barcelona, Spain, has started offering a male sex doll to curious straight men looking to “experiment” with homosexuality.”

    Moses is going to have to come down Mt. Sinai with an 11th commandment.

    Can the cyborgs also cook?

  865. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    858. “They are socialists since they want… redistrivute the wealth.”

    Tina, I don’t know what it is, but it sounds awful.

  866. lisab says:

    utopian socialists don’t want class warfare, that is, we don’t want to redistribute the wealth through class warfare

    we want efficient markets, so that mr=mc

    and the maximum benefit to society is achieved

  867. MichiganGuy says:

    New York Governor
    .
    Cuomo 57%
    Molinaro 29%
    .
    Cuomo 57%
    DeFrancisco 28%
    .
    Siena College Poll
    .
    https://www.siena.edu/news-events/article/by-2-to-1-new-yorkers-support-safe-act-banning-assault-weapon-sales-nationa
    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    Looks like another nail biter. 🙄

  868. Messy57 says:

    893. No they don’t. They want the entire economy run like a charity, and a bunch of “really nice people” having absolute power

    Sort of like Bulgaria in 1972.

  869. NYCmike says:

    Hopefully Cynthia Nixon will give Cuomo a good challenge.

  870. Messy57 says:

    872. We are, of the Harpo variety.

  871. MichiganGuy says:

    NYCmike, did you click on the link?
    .
    Cuomo is overwhelmingly favored by Democrats over a potential Democratic primary opponent, actor/activist Cynthia Nixon, 66-19 percent.

  872. Messy57 says:

    898. tomorrow is the Illinois primary. any predictions?

  873. Messy57 says:

    nine hundred!!!!

  874. MichiganGuy says:

    A majority of the American public believe that the U.S. government engages in widespread monitoring of its own citizens and worry that the U.S. government could be invading their own privacy.
    .
    a large bipartisan majority who feel that national policy is being manipulated or directed by a “Deep State” of unelected government officials. Americans of color on the center and left and NRA members on the right are among those most worried about the reach of government prying into average citizens’ lives.
    .
    Just over half of the public is either very worried (23%) or somewhat worried (30%) about the U.S. government monitoring their activities and invading their privacy. There are no significant partisan differences – 57% of independents, 51% of Republicans, and 50% of Democrats are at least somewhat worried the federal government is monitoring their activities.
    .
    https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_us_031918/

  875. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    MN-GOV- TAKE:”Tim Pawlenty(R) is getting in the race this week, and all but confirmed it to press on Friday.” (H/T: RRH)

    https://mailchi.mp/fluence-media/morningtake11718-2241741

    I assume this is good news.

  876. MichiganGuy says:

    “I assume this is good news.”
    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    This is the best news I’ve heard all day!

  877. Bitterlaw says:

    Uh oh. You mean the government knows I have softball practice on Tuesday and that I take insulin? Damn. My secrets are out.

  878. Tgca says:

    …and that you wear cardigan sweaters and like to go to flower shows with your wife. They know all.

  879. GPO says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:

    March 19, 2018 at 9:18 am

    MN-GOV- TAKE:”Tim Pawlenty(R) is getting in the race this week, and all but confirmed it to press on Friday.” (H/T: RRH)

    https://mailchi.mp/fluence-media/morningtake11718-2241741

    I assume this is good news.

    I prefer he take out one of the commie senators, but guess take what we can get- even though Minnesota didn’t go red in 2016, having a Republican Governor can help in 2020

  880. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not own a sweater. I only went to the flower show to spy on Mrs. Walt. Even after 247 wives, Walt is still jealous.

  881. Tgca says:

    We can see who the REAL men on HHR are. I’ve NEVER been to a flower show, nor would I EVER go to one.

  882. NYCmike says:

    I did not look at the link. Nixon has not been in the news much. Hopefully she will start making public statements which make Andy-Boy show his more progressive side.

  883. NYCmike says:

    Rand Paul makes a statement standing up to John Brennan.

    Marco Rubio makes a statement standing up for Andy McCabe.

  884. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The most prominent Republican in Hawaii announces his withdrawal from the Party due to The Donald’s anti-immigration policies and rhetoric.
    IMHO, Charles Djou knows that Hawaii is so Democrat that he needs to shed the R after his name in order to voted -in for any position in the Aloha State.
    I wish him good luck.

    http://www.civilbeat.org/2018/03/charles-djou-why-im-leaving-the-gop/

  885. Tina says:

    Surprised that mccarthy is taking a swipe at mulehead shredding doj charging practices.

    At least that is how i interpret it to be,

  886. JC says:

    Ras at 47%

  887. Tgca says:

    Newsmax reporting that Mueller is focusing on obstruction while in office and not collusion during campaign. If true, we have to thank the spineless idiot Sessions for this. If this is the case, he should resign immediately. He screwed POTUS and the GOP. This would never had happen if you had a strong AG like Rudy, Christie, or others. Get ready for absolute gridlock.

  888. Michael says:

    Hey Bitter! Pearl Kim has the GOP endorsement! Hope to see you door knocking!

  889. Tina says:

    heLastRefuge
    @TheLastRefuge2
    ·
    16h
    ?The Senator who signed a letter with Chuck Grassley demanding a special counsel to criminally prosecute Andrew McCabe is now worried about McCabe being fired and wants to hold hearings?

    Knucklehead.

    ?

    Must be an election year…
    The Hill
    @thehill
    JUST IN: Graham calls for the Senate Judiciary Committee to hold a hearing on McCabe’s firing (link: http://hill.cm/qv2hv7N) hill.cm/qv2hv7N

  890. gameboy says:

    Mueller needs to be fired ASAP, as of yesterday. How does one get from investigating Russian collusion to some bullsh$t obstruction thing while he is in office?? As I said before this nonsense needs to come to an end. Time for an all out war with the deep state. Fire Mueller and all of the Democrat donors he has hired ASAP. Fire Sessions. Clean house, and let the chips fall where they may. Get it over with already.

  891. gameboy says:

    A hearing for McCabe’s firing?? I assume that’s a joke.

  892. Tina says:

    Yup, a hearing thanks to goober.

    Goober earlier signed a ketter with grassley pointing out malfeasance by mccabe.

    Taking out mccabe has realky caused the drats, never trumoers, jebots, etc. to imploide.

  893. NYCmike says:

    I really don’t understand the Sessions hate…..as far as I can tell, patience is a virtue in his job, especially when there are so many actors for the other side that you need to avoid.

  894. NYCmike says:

    One technicality and any SOB gets off……

  895. Tina says:

    They were content when sessions was doin nuffin,

    I said that was not true,

    Now that the noose is around the coup plotters, the deep state and rinos and drats are concerned.

  896. Tina says:

    BTw, according to monmouth poling, 74 percent believe that the deep state exists.

  897. DW says:

    BREAKING NEWS Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian

    And there you go. The end of this stupid fantasy that autonomous cars are the way of the future. No doubt self-driving cars are a dream come true for liability trial lawyers, but I cannot grasp why anyone would want to bear the liability for the programming of these computers on wheels when people can get run over and killed.

  898. Wes says:

    Now if thst Uber got a DUI charge and ran for President, DW, Bitter would be the first person to endorse its candidacy. 🙂

  899. Wes says:

    Sheeple, the HIGOP is the worst-run party in the country. The Texas Dems look like their Rhode Island counterparts in comparison.

  900. Wes says:

    GPO, Minnesota’s Senators are safe. Pawlenty can, however, win the governorship and maybe start rebuilding yhe party.

  901. chicon says:

    926 – well played, Wes.

  902. Wes says:

    I try, Chicon. I do try.

  903. NYCmike says:

    “I try, Chicon. I do try.”

    -YODA will banish you for such a cop-out!

  904. Messy57 says:

    The “Russia probe” knocks the Stock market on it’s ass. DJI down over 320. NASDAQ down 1.5%. The Dow was down 500 points around 1pm.

    Not fake news.

  905. Messy57 says:

    The SCOTUS has just approved the new districts in Pennsylvania: https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/975814031729745921/photo/1

    Wisconsin, Texas and Michigan are next.

  906. Tina says:

    Eric holder confirms that more attacks against the fbi, doj is imminent.

    Does holder realize that comedy and mccabe will be indicted?

  907. Tina says:

    Looks like cnn reported fake news once again.

    They said the austin bombings were racially motivated against minorities.

    Whoops.

  908. Phil says:

    Probably means the House goes with the events in Pa. four seats gone.

    Speaker Pelosi and the removal of Trump begins in January. Well, not the removal. Senate won’t go along but what a circus it will be for the second half of Trumps term.

  909. Michael says:

    939 what? We have lost probably 3 seats in PA. Where will the fourth be?

    I see PA-05, PA-06, and PA-17 going but I don’t think anything else goes just yet.

  910. Phil says:

    I believe what has been 18. Not out of the question it could be 5 if things go south but doubtful. As far as the other states the troll mentioned she is dreaming.

  911. chicon says:

    Isn’t PA expected to lose a seat or two after the 2020 census, which would mean a new map anyway?

  912. Phil says:

    Pa was a special case. The Pa electorate put a bunch of loons on the Pa Supreme Court. Democrats tried the same hocus pocus in NC and the courts shut them down.

  913. Tina says:

    evin Cirilli
    @kevcirilli
    HAPPENING TONIGHT:

    Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Michael Moore to Host Inequality Town Hall in D.C

    Jenots to be in attendance.

  914. Wes says:

    Democrats don’t control the Supreme Courts in WI, TX, and MI.

  915. NYCmike says:

    Great point, Wes!

  916. NYCmike says:

    “The “Russia probe” knocks the Stock market on it’s ass. DJI down over 320. NASDAQ down 1.5%. The Dow was down 500 points around 1pm.”

    -Seriously?

    How many times does this happen over the course of a year? In a decade?

  917. Phil says:

    Yes, not a single Democrat anywhere on the Texas Supreme Court in the last 25 years.

  918. Messy57 says:

    937. They didn’t do a particularly good job at it.
    One of Obama’s failures is that he appointed a Chairperson who’s main goal was to get Hillary Clinton elected president, the rest of the party be damned.

  919. Tina says:

    Messylsd.

    They prevailed in 2012 doing the same thing,

    The muh cambridge stuff is bs for the russian hoax failing.

    75 percent want mukehead gone,

    74 percent believe in deep state,

    But keep plunking.

  920. Tina says:

    Conversation
    Trey Yingst
    Trey Yingst
    @TreyYingst
    President Trump says there will be a “major news conference” at the White House in about a month.
    12:04 PM · Mar 19, 2018

    Hmm, interesting,,

  921. DW says:

    Not only had I recommended the Buffalo Bulls as a tourney upset pick…I was also here just before the tournament started poking fun at some of the more oddball mascot names including the ‘Retrievers’ and the ‘Thundering Herd.’ Both of these turned out to be upset wins as well. The Retrievers forever will be remembered as the 16 seed that knocked out the 1 seed.

  922. DW says:

    Here is another prediction. The University of Virginia Basketball program is done. What I mean is they had some glory days back in the early 1980s when they had Ralph Sampson. Thereafter the team stunk for a long time, until recent years where they have been working hard to be one of the national basketball blue-blood teams.

    All of that is shattered when you earn the distinction of being the ONLY #1 seed to lose to a 16 seed in an event that has been going on since 1985. Their recruiting will suffer, they will go back to fielding mediocre teams for the foreseeable future.

  923. chicon says:

    Still waiting for the mass changes among White House personnel that Robbie (aka Mr. MSM) and the MSM promised were going to happen last week.

    They just make stuff up, and Robbie believes everything they say anyway….

  924. Tina says:

    The keebler elf looks very happy.

  925. lisab says:

    CBS finally bending the knee? “What if Trump is right and there is no collusion?”

  926. Tina says:

    Breaking

    A cording to emails, zuckerberg met with her thighness before election.

  927. NYCmike says:

    https://nypost.com/2018/03/19/cynthia-nixon-announces-bid-for-governor/

    -This will be interesting, for several reasons. I will like to see if Andy can take a punch. I want to see how far left Nixon will make him go. I also want to see how far left DeBlasio is willing to have Nixon go, and we shall see if the Republican Party can take advantage of their far left leanings, and attain more power without relying on Democrats in the Senate…

    Personally, I don’t think Republicans can maintain their power without Andy. I also don’t think Republicans will ever be strong enough to do anything other than slow down liberalism if they need to rely on Andy.

  928. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/social-justice-anything-justice/

    -Canada.

    Are we next?

    Bitterlaw to give a zzzzzzzzzzzzzz……..

  929. JeffP says:

    The Mueller investigation is not going to end until he finds something to charge Trump with…that’s my opinion. It won’t have anything to do with Russia collusion in the election either. The deep state is all into taking him down. Gowdy, Rubio & Graham make me sick…defending this crap. Trump for all his faults is a real leader and wants to get something done and is the most conservative we will get in the Oval anytime soon. It is all about slowing him down…and then taking him out.

  930. Hugh says:

    961. I think you are right about mueller

  931. jason says:

    So SCOTUS says AZ has to keep issuing driver’s licenses to dreamers?

    Has NYC been here yet to crow WE ARE WINNING?

  932. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  933. Bitterlaw says:

    If I wanted to be upset over things that happen in Canada, I would move to Canada.

    While I reject the idea that depression is real, I feel very down these days. No need to add Canadian events to the gloom.

  934. Paul says:

    I’ve got to remember to go vote for Biss tomorrow in the Illinois primary.

  935. Cash Cow TM says:

    CLINTON DEAD POOL

    “17 – Danny Casolaro – Investigative reporter, investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.”

    MG,

    HERE ARE SOE TRUE FACTS:
    Casolaro was found dead in the bathtub in a Holiday Inn room in Martinsburg, WV [

    He was found by David Avella–a former student of Walt who was working at the Holiday Inn at the time.
    Avella later became the head of GOPAC.

    THE HOLIDAY INN IS WHERE WALT PLAYS BRIDGE EVERY TUESDAY!

  936. Cash Cow TM says:

    GUESS WHO LIVES IN MARTINSBURG, WV?

    DUN DUHN DUHHHNN!

  937. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Here is another prediction. The University of Virginia Basketball program is done. What I mean is they had some glory days back in the early 1980s when they had Ralph Sampson. Thereafter the team stunk for a long time, until recent years where they have been working hard to be one of the national basketball blue-blood teams.”

    DW,

    On Dec. 5, 2017 WVU (then ranked 18th) beat University of VA 68-61. I think UVA was ranked #1 at the time.
    UVA lost to the #15 seed and has gone home.
    WVU is going to the Sweet 16.

  938. Tina says:

    Muh cambridge.

    From @MajorCBS: Trump campaign phased out use of Cambridge Analytica data before election. (link: http://ow.ly/bB1W30j2ZYB) ow.ly/bB1W30j2ZYB

  939. Tina says:

    So, Trump did not use Cambridge starting in september of 2016.

    But muh cambridge. Muh sex slaves.

  940. MichiganGuy says:

    OHIO 2020 GE:
    .
    Donald Trump 34%
    Democratic Candidate 32%
    .
    OHIO 2020 Republican Primary:
    .
    Trump 62%
    Kasich 27%
    .
    Baldwin Wallace University Poll
    .
    http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2018/03/donald_trump_would_beat_john_k.html
    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    Donald Trump would easily beat John Kasich in rematch of Ohio Republican primary. 😀

  941. MichiganGuy says:

    Pennsylvania Governor – Republican Primary:
    .
    Wagner 20%
    Mango 18%
    Ellsworth 4%
    Undecided 57%
    .
    Revily Political Insights Poll
    .
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vAXJx_EmM6B-K8e_8cQjGoXgILX73Q3B/view

  942. MichiganGuy says:

    Idaho Governor Republican Primary:
    .
    Labrador 16%
    Ahlquist 15%
    Little 11%
    .
    Democrat Primary:
    .
    Jordan 15%
    Balukoff 8%
    .
    IPW pollster Dan Jones & Associates
    .
    http://idahopoliticsweekly.com/politics/2013-poll-shows-tight-race-for-idaho-governor-but-nearly-1-3-of-voters-are-undecided

  943. DW says:

    “UVA lost to the #15 seed and has gone home.”

    Actually it was the 16th seed, underscoring the magnitude of the loss. 16 seeds are now like 1-135 against #1 seeds.

  944. MichiganGuy says:

    Device explodes in FedEx building outside San Antonio, police say.
    .
    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/03/20/device-explodes-in-fedex-building-outside-san-antonio-police-say.html

  945. MichiganGuy says:

    In bogus Facebook comments, Martha McSally’s biggest fan is … Martha McSally
    .
    Well, this could become a thing. On Monday, the sleuths at American Bridge busted Republican Senate candidate Martha McSally for posting a fake comment praising her own Facebook video—though McSally made it awfully easy to catch her. That’s because McSally’s social media team posted the bogus comment—saying, oddly, “Great video quality! Thank you for your service!”—from McSally’s own account! (Also, what kind of normal campaign supporter praises a video’s production values?) Remarkably, the comment stayed up for nearly 24 hours before getting deleted, even though several (real) commenters had called McSally out…
    .
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/20/1750409/-Morning-Digest-In-bogus-Facebook-comments-Martha-McSally-s-biggest-fan-is-Martha-McSally
    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    Well, that wasn’t very smart. 🙁

  946. chicon says:

    977 – cue the 3,498th round of the “Great HHR Deadender” extravaganza.

  947. NYCmike says:

    SEND A MESSAGE!

  948. Messy57 says:

    947. There are many reasons that the market takes a dive. Just last month the market fell a thousand points in a day. However, yesterday, it was about how Cambridge Anylitica (sic) stole the information on facebook from 52 million people right under the nose of Facebook’s nose. This has to do with the Russia thing. Thus I stand by my statement.

  949. Messy57 says:

    823. The opioid crisis has one origin. A “model bill” removing restrictions on the drugs by The American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), which to some extent conrols the Republican party.

  950. MichiganGuy says:

    Ohio Senate GE:
    .
    Brown (D) 41%
    Renacci (R) 29%
    .
    Brown (D) 41%
    Gibbons (R) 31%
    .
    Baldwin Wallace University’s Community Research Institute
    .
    http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2018/03/poll_shows_sherrod_brown_with.html

  951. Chicon says:

    981 – stating that a situation like the massive increase in opioid use has one origin shows a serious lack of candlepower on the part of the writer.

  952. MichiganGuy says:

    Thinking about the U.S. invasion of Iraq in 2003: Do you think the U.S. made the right decision or the wrong decision in using military force in Iraq?
    .
    Right Decision 43%
    Wrong Decision 48%
    Unsure 9%
    .
    Pew Research Center
    .
    http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/03/19/iraq-war-continues-to-divide-u-s-public-15-years-after-it-began/
    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    I’m surprised 43% still support invading Iraq. 😮

  953. DW says:

    982 – Brown at only 41% is very poor for an incumbent. GOP should go all in to get this one.

  954. MichiganGuy says:

    Florida Governor GE:
    .
    Putnam (R) 34%
    Gillum (D) 28%
    .
    Putnam (R) 34%
    Graham (D) 32%
    .
    DeSantis (R) 29%
    Gillum (D) 33%
    .
    DeSantis (R) 30%
    Graham (D) 33%
    .
    Senate GE:
    .
    Scott (R) 40%
    Nelson (D) 44%
    .
    Gravis Poll
    .
    http://orlando-politics.com/2018/03/20/gravis-marketing-florida-poll-results-march-2018-survey-results/

  955. JC says:

    Ras stable at 47%

  956. JC says:

    @MG

    I think Brown’s seat is more gettable than Manchin’s.

  957. MichiganGuy says:

    Senator Tillis may have benefited from Facebook data breach.
    The data firm accused of stealing the private information of more than 50 million Facebook users may have used that information to help U.S. Sen. Thom Tillis win his seat in 2014.
    .
    http://www.wral.com/tillis-may-have-benefited-from-facebook-data-breach/17427902/
    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    I’m glad he is not up for re-election until 2020

  958. MichiganGuy says:

    #988 JC, I agree. Manchin will have no problem getting re-elected.

  959. Messy57 says:

    the Washington Examiner, a Republican journal, has come out in favor of Impeaching Trump if he fires Meuller: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/if-trump-fires-special-counsel-robert-mueller-gop-should-start-impeachment-probe

  960. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #992
    And you know there was carnage how?

  961. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #991
    So you want a President Mike Pence? Go for it!

  962. Bitterlaw says:

    Sheeple – I read the words critical injuries. I guess those are acceptable to you in a school.

  963. Bitterlaw says:

    Update now has 2 victims. No big deal to Sheeple.

  964. Robbie says:

    Top men. Top men.

    Roger Simon
    ?@politicoroger

    Joe diGenova was the guy who couldn’t get a conviction against the man who shot Ronald Reagan.
    Now Pres Trump is tapping this keen legal mind.

  965. Robbie says:

    Good job everyone. The MAGA base really knows how to pick them.

    Alex Isenstadt
    ?@politicoalex

    NEWS: National GOP deliberating whether to intervene against DON BLANKENSHIP, who’s gaining big mo in the West Virginia Senate race
    My piece on what’s quickly becoming the most fascinating contest in the country

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/03/20/west-virginia-senate-republicans-blankenship-472050

  966. Bitterlaw says:

    Hinckley was insane. Not easy to convict him.

  967. Bitterlaw says:

    M aybe

    My numbering is off because of posts in moderation.

  968. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Bitter
    Carnage is defined as “the killing of MANY people”. You used the wrong word in order to inflame.
    If you want to get maudlin on us, please report the “carnage” in Chicago every week. 7 dead last weekend in the Windy City. Why don’t you have feelings about AA youth being slaughterd?
    Lastly, a good guy, an officer at the School, with a gun stopped this incident from turning into one of carnage.

  969. Phil says:

    Hinkley was insane. Not easy to convict.

    Don’t confuse Robbie with facts.

  970. hugh says:

    MG. Stealing information from facebook. That is a joke. There is no expectation of privacy on facebook. Sounds like they are upset that someone collected data more efficiently than one by one. Another fake issue. IT was awesome/brilliant when Obama did it. Now its bad news. All the same, Facebook, google etc have way too much power and need to be broken up.

  971. MichiganGuy says:

    * BOOM *
    .
    A former media director for the Obama campaign said Facebook allowed them to access the personal data of its users in 2011 because the social media giant was “on our side.”
    “They came to office in the days following election recruiting & were very candid that they allowed us to do things they wouldn’t have allowed someone else to do because they were on our side,” Carol Davidsen, director of data integration and media analytics for Obama for America, wrote Sunday on Twitter.
    .
    https://nypost.com/2018/03/20/obamas-former-media-director-said-facebook-was-once-on-our-side/

  972. MichiganGuy says:

    Zuckerberg hides.
    .
    Facebook to hold crisis meeting without Zuckerberg.
    .
    https://news.sky.com/story/facebook-to-hold-crisis-meeting-without-zuckerberg-11297725

  973. Cash Cow TM says:

    U.S. Senate Race–WV

    Amazed that Don Blankenship has surged into essentially a tie with Rep. Evan Jenkins and ahead of WV AG Patrick Morrisey.

    Blankenship has spent $1.3 MM on TV ads and other ads. The other 2 campaigns are not yet geared up yet–although they do bash each other on Facebook.

    Blankenship’s ads are convoluted (but working) and are unabashedly anti-Obama in tone. Will WV R primary voters go rogue and actually nominate Blankenship? Someone who just spent a year in the federal pen for safety violations that resulted in deaths of a bunch of miners a few years back at Upper Big Branch mine?

    If so, Manchin cruises in November.

    Turmoil in R primary.

  974. Cash Cow TM says:

    Snowing hard outside.

    Walt has been out doing the shoveling so he let me have his laptop.

    He had to go out this morning and get ink for his printer and said the roads were slick as owl snot.

  975. chicon says:

    997 – Robbie, have you seen the list of high profile cases Mueller has screwed up? I know you don’t know much about the law, but most high profile attorneys have a case or two go south. Doesn’t mean they’re bad investigators/lawyers.

  976. Cash Cow TM says:

    I’ll give Dave W. a free pint of cream if he gets a new thread up.

  977. chicon says:

    The Maryland high school shooter was stopped after shooting two students because a cop with a gun shot him.

    I wonder how much coverage this case will get from
    Robbie’s friends in the MSM?

  978. chicon says:

    1009 – Cow with another udderly shameless bribe….

  979. Michael says:

    The looks like Cindy Hyde-Smith will be the newest Senator for Mississippi!

    https://twitter.com/AP_Politics/status/976113537033670657

  980. Phil says:

    1013

    Her biography says she is a member of the NRA. Obviously doesn’t care about the safety of the children.

  981. DW says:

    The 16-year-old female student was stabilized and transfered to UM Prince George’s Hospital Center, and the 14-year-old male victim is in good condition, according to the MedStar St. Mary’s Hospital

    The shooter, a male, has died, the sheriff said.

  982. DW says:

    Florida Senate:

    Gravis

    Nelson 44
    Scott 40

  983. MichiganGuy says:

    DW, you’re a little slow on the Florida poll. lol

  984. NYCmike says:

    Every election year around this time, Scott has like 40% compared to his opponent having a higher %.

    Has he officially entered the race yet?

  985. NYCmike says:

    Both students that were shot are doing ok? WOW! That is wonderful news if true.

  986. DW says:

    1019–well, one was reported as good condition, the other stable. Stable can still mean lots of damage. But overall, yes, thankful someone had a gun to put down the animal doing this.

  987. Bitterlaw says:

    Sheeple – The initial reports were multiple victims shot. I have a daughter in high school so maybe my threshold for carnage is lower than yours. Don’t worry. I have no doubt that there will be a more deadly school shooting that meets your high standards at some point.

    GFY.

  988. Bitterlaw says:

    I am relieved that the shooter was taken out quickly.

  989. NYCmike says:

    I have a son in high school. His school was shut down several months ago because of a false threat.

    I have told him every day, before that and especially after, STAY ALERT and BE PREPARED.

    Yes, easier said than done, but always good advice nonetheless.*

    *I did NOT tell him to pick out a nice picture of himself.

  990. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “I am relieved that the shooter was taken out quickly.”

    The Florida practice of law enforcement staying outside until the shooter is through killing people is not being followed in other states.

  991. mnw says:

    Robbie

    You know a lot about keen legal minds, do you?

    Robbie apparently thinks that it was a chip shot to convince a black DC jury that a rich white kid who shot the President (in order to impress a movie star!) was… perfectly sane.

  992. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    997. “Robbie says: Top men. Top men.
    Roger Simon ?@politicoroger Joe diGenova was the guy who couldn’t get a conviction against the man who shot Ronald Reagan. Now Pres Trump is tapping this keen legal mind.”

    Typical churlish post by Robbie.

    Hinckley was found insane. Under the applicable law at the time he was presumed insane, and the prosecutor had to disprove it:

    “At the time, federal law put the burden on the prosecution to prove Hinckley was sane. After four days, the jury returned a verdict of not guilty by reason of insanity. Following Hinckley’s acquittal, Congress reversed the law, requiring the defence to prove insanity.”

    diGenova was respected as a prosecutor and attorney.

    https://www.dcbar.org/bar-resources/publications/washington-lawyer/articles/february-2013-legends-in-the-law.cfm

  993. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw, mnw, SanDiego, Phil all agree – diGenove could have Robbie committed, now that the law was changed.

  994. DW says:

    EXODUS: Californians fed up with housing costs, taxes fleeing in BIG numbers…

    …but these fools will come to lower taxed states and vote to make them like what they fled. Every. Single. Time.

  995. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/03/20/awful-jeff-kasky-attacks-ryan-petty-who-lost-his-daughter-in-parkland-shooting-over-stopschoolviolenceact/

    -The Mr. Ryan Petty approach, or the Mr. Jeff Kasky approach?

    Choose wisely.

    In this case, being “Petty” looks to be the better answer.

  996. NYCmike says:

    “…but these fools will come to lower taxed states and vote to make them like what they fled. Every. Single. Time.”

    -worth repeating.

  997. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    992. “Another school shooting. The carnage continues.”

    There is a very real carnage in Maryland, and it is in Baltimore — 343 murdered in 2017. They clearly need gun control to stop it..oh wait, they already have gun control. The gangs and criminals carry them illegally. Imagine, criminals breaking the laws –shocking.

    “Of the 343 people killed in Baltimore in 2017, 88 percent were killed with a firearm, including 295 with a handgun and six with a shotgun or rifle, according to Baltimore Police data released Wednesday

    About 86 percent of the victims and 85 percent of the 118 suspects identified by police had prior criminal records. And about 46 percent of victims and 44 percent of suspects had previously been arrested for gun crimes, the data show.

    Of the guns used, the “overwhelming majority of them are going to be illegally possessed,” said T.J. Smith, a police spokesman.

    Smith said the numbers, from the department’s annual homicide analysis, support what the department has been saying: that “the weapon of choice for bad guys in Baltimore is the handgun,” that “repeat violent offenders” are routinely behind the violence, and that often, “today’s victim is yesterday’s suspect, and today’s suspect can be tomorrow’s victim.”

  998. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1028. “EXODUS: Californians fed up with housing costs, taxes fleeing in BIG numbers……but these fools will come to lower taxed states and vote to make them like what they fled. Every. Single. Time.”

    Seen it in Utah and other Western states. Businesses flee California because of high taxes. The states they relocate to offer them multi-million dollar incentives. Then once they relocate they demand expensive transportation and public facilities which would result in high taxes. The companies of course demand that the state taxpayers pay the added costs, not them.

    However, one difference is California’s high taxes are in part caused by massive public pension debts & public employee payrolls; required wage levels and over-regulation. A lot of the refugees from California detest these abuses, so vote conservatively.

    One put-down to demanding Californians is:
    “This is not California, and we are not going to let it become California.” This often brings them to their senses.

    Saying that, there is a stampeded of companies
    fleeing California for Utah (and other states). California is de-industrializing, tech is even now leaving.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/13/a-high-tech-mecca-rises-to-rival-silicon-valley.html

  999. DW says:

    I wonder if CA will lose some seats after the 2020 census. Probably they will count every illegal so as to insure a growth of seats instead of a decline…but here’s hoping that the remaining conservatives get out before 2020.

  1000. NYCmike says:

    I have seen some scenes from House of Cards……no teenager needs to see that until he is in college, at the earliest.

  1001. Tina says:

    No attacks on hogg.

  1002. Robbie says:

    MAGA!!!

    Greg Sargent
    ?@ThePlumLineGS

    Amazing stuff from Pew.

    56% of women, and 58% of four-year college graduates, now identify as Democrats or Dem leaners.

    Only 37% of women, and 36% of college grads, identify as GOP:

  1003. Tina says:

    DiGenova is still respected to this day.

    The jebots are concerned about him for a reason.

  1004. Tina says:

    Keen legal mind.
    Lol.

  1005. NYCmike says:

    “Amazing stuff from Pew.”

    -This just about says it all.

  1006. NYCmike says:

    “56% of women, and 58% of four-year college graduates, now identify as Democrats or Dem leaners.”

    -For comparisons sake, what were the numbers in 2008, in the run-up to electing Obama?

  1007. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1033. “I wonder if CA will lose some seats after the 2020 census. Probably they will count every illegal so as to insure a growth of seats instead of a decline.”

    Here is a LA Times article on the issue:

    “Here’s a mischievous way for President Trump to get back at pesky California: Ask people in the 2020 census whether they’re U.S. citizens.
    Then the president can chortle if immigrants who are here illegally duck away from participating in the population count.
    That would be a laugher for Trump because without a maximum head count in California, the feds would need to spend less money in the state on grants and subsidies. Maybe $2.1 billion less each year for a decade until the next census. Total it up: $21 billion.
    Even sweeter for Trump, this deep-blue state very likely would lose some political juice — specifically one U.S. House seat and, thus, one presidential electoral vote.
    Noncitizens can’t vote, of course, but every state resident — here legally or not — counts when congressional seats and electoral votes are apportioned.
    Do I believe Trump would cynically slap a citizenship question on the census questionnaire to scare off undocumented immigrants and hurt California politically? You bet.”

    http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-sac-skelton-democrats-census-trump-2020-20180125-story.html

    A lot of illegals are not going to put their name and address on a census form, no matter what liberals tell them. Its too much of a risk.

  1008. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – You don’t have a photo ready to go if the worst happens? You are clearly not Irish.

  1009. NYCmike says:

    Robbie says:
    March 20, 2018 at 5:03 pm

    MAGA!!!

    -People with Brains say Let’s take a look:

    https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2008/

    In 2008, looks like Obama got 56% of women voters.

    I do not see a break down by education.

  1010. Bitterlaw says:

    Here comes the snow!

  1011. NYCmike says:

    “NYC – You don’t have a photo ready to go if the worst happens? You are clearly not Irish.”

    -My (Irish) wife’s Aunt, who is a nun (over 60 years!), was just telling a story about when she was just starting off, she (and the other new nuns) was told to set aside a “best suit” for herself, in case anything sudden happened.

    Those Irish are always prepared for the worst!

    Better grab an extra 6-pack of Guinness, just in case the snow storm is heavier than expected!

  1012. NYCmike says:

    “Here comes the snow!”

    -Author, Tgca, eat your hearts out!

  1013. NYCmike says:

    https://ropercenter.cornell.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/

    -2012 = 55% of women for Obama.

    Robbie,

    Please tell me again how it is Trump’s fault…..

  1014. NYCmike says:

    For the 2012, college-educated is better for Romney, but post-graduate is back up to 55 for Obama.

  1015. NYCmike says:

    Ok, looking at it again, Robbie’s tweet may be right.

    P A N I C ! ! !

  1016. NYCmike says:

    What I would ask women if I was doing a poll:

    Why are the majority of women against the unemployment rate for blacks and Latinos being at their lowest levels in history??

  1017. Wes says:

    For those who defended the failure to convict Hinckley on grounds of insanity, both Leon Czolgosz–who did assassinate President William Mckinley–and Giuseppe Zangara–who tried to assassinate President-elect Franklin Roosevelt–used the insanity defense.

    Each was convicted regardless and subsequently executed.

    That’s what Hinckley deserved as well.

  1018. Tina says:

    Rallh peters quit faux news.

    Bye bye jebot losah.

  1019. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw takes a cavalier attitude toward the attempted assassination of a President.

    Ay Dios Mio…

  1020. chicon says:

    1053 – Wes, I’m guessing there was a few differences in the fact patterns.

    Plus, the jury system is notoriously fickle.

  1021. Wes says:

    Well, Chicon, Zangara was very likely actually insane. He claimed voices in his stomach told him to act and claimed he wsnted to kill a “great leader.” He eould have killed Roosevelt too had a woman not grabbed his arm and caused him to hit Chicago Mayor Anton Cermak rather than Roosevelt. Cermak subsequently died of peritonitis.

    Czolgosz is a murkier issue. He hsd lost his job in the Panic of 1893 and subsewurntly turned to anarchism. He vouldn’t get close to McKinley but shot him from the side as the President leaned forward to shake a supporter’s hand.

    Both Czolgosz and Zangara were executed within two months of their crimes.

  1022. Wes says:

    Wanted*

    Would*

    Had*

  1023. Wes says:

    Hinckley walks free today.

    We used to take attempts on our Presidents’ lives a bit more seriously than that.

  1024. Wes says:

    Had*

    Subsequently*

    Wouldn’t*

  1025. Bitterlaw says:

    Cavalier attitude? GFY.

    I said he was determined to be insane and this prevented conviction. That is a fact and not an attitude.

  1026. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes is typing like Tina now.

  1027. Wes says:

    Hey, Bitter, an autopsy of Charles Guiteau–President Garfield’s assassin–after Guiteau’s hanging indicated possible brain damage that led to Guiteau’s mental instability at the time of the murder.

    I guess we should resurrect Guiteau, declare him insane, and let him live out his life.

    After all, what sane man assassinates a sitting President for rejecting his job applications?

  1028. Wes says:

    Of course had Booth been put on trial and declared insane so he could avoid execution for murdering Lincoln, Bitter would be outraged–as I would too honestly.

    Reagan wsn’t Lincoln though, so Bitter’s fine with the fact that Hinckley’s a free man.

  1029. Tgca says:

    Per Newsmax article:

    City Votes to Exempt Itself From California Sanctuary Law

    So all but one Los Alamitos city council critter votes to exempt itself from the CA sanctuary law recently passed and the nay vote has the audacity to state:


    “We disagree with Sacramento on a lot of things. Are we not going to follow state law every time we disagree with them? I don’t think that would be prudent,”

    Umm? Isn’t that EXACTLY what CA did in ignoring Federal law? So it’s ok to ignore Federal jurisdiction but not State?

  1030. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    That is weak tea right there. What a pathetic comparison!

  1031. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – I would be fine with executions for parking tickets. Unfortunately, the insanity claim let Hinkley escape the conviction he deserved.

    My point was that Robbie was doing his typical act and ignoring facts to make a point.

  1032. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Your lies are as weak as your wedding vows.

  1033. NYCmike says:

    Wes took a wedding “vow”….but then retired/resigned from it.

  1034. Wes says:

    Let’s see…

    Booth assassinated Lincoln. He was promptly killed.

    Guiteau assassinated Garfield. He was hanged.

    Czolgosz assassinated McKinley. He was electrocuted.

    Zangara tried to kill Roosevelt but did kill Cermak. He was electrocuted.

    Oswald shot Kennedy and a Dallas police officer. He was shot and killed.

    Hinckley nonfatally shot Reagan and others. He walks free.

    One of these is not like the others.

  1035. Tgca says:

    Dearest Bitter:

    You believe one can suffer from insanity but one cannot suffer from depression? Interesting.

  1036. NYCmike says:

    “Oswald shot Kennedy and a Dallas police officer. He was shot and killed.”

    -This one was a very quick trial.

    Wes, who was the lawyer on that one? Robbie would approve of him! //

  1037. Bitterlaw says:

    997. Robbie says:

    March 20, 2018 at 10:14 am

    Top men. Top men.

    Roger Simon
    ?@politicoroger

    Joe diGenova was the guy who couldn’t get a conviction against the man who shot Ronald Reagan.
    Now Pres Trump is tapping this keen legal mind.

    999. Bitterlaw says:

    March 20, 2018 at 10:16 am

    Hinckley was insane. Not easy to convict him.

    Out of this exchange, Wes somehow concludes that I did not care about Reagan being shot. That is pure bs.

  1038. NYCmike says:

    Wes supposedly got married again, to a stripper.
    Wes comes on HHR to make ridiculous arguments.
    Wes has taught us that wives and strippers both say “You can look but you can’t touch!”.

  1039. NYCmike says:

    “Out of this exchange, Wes somehow concludes that I did not care about Reagan being shot. That is pure bs.”

    -More like unadulterated buffoonery.

  1040. Bitterlaw says:

    I think the insanity defense is over-used. However, my point was that it was used in Hinckley’s case. I passed no judgment on the case.

    Reagan was my god. Wes can F off.

  1041. NYCmike says:

    “You believe one can suffer from insanity but one cannot suffer from depression? Interesting.”

    -Tgca, this one is easy.

    Men usually don’t get married because of depression.

  1042. Bitterlaw says:

    Dearest Bitter:

    You believe one can suffer from insanity but one cannot suffer from depression? Interesting.

    “Depression” is weakness. Insanity is different. Both can be true.

  1043. Bitterlaw says:

    Sometimes I am weak. Since I don’t want to create an untidy mess for my family to find, I don’t own a gun.

  1044. Tgca says:

    The moral of the story is back in the olden days, the law was less caring or forgiven than today.

  1045. Tgca says:

    I own 2 semi-automatic pistols Bitter. Let me know if you need to borrow one. That’s what friends are for, you know.

  1046. NYCmike says:

    “The moral of the story is back in the olden days, the law was less caring or forgiven than today.”

    -Definitely.

    For Wes to even make the comparison is ludicrous…..he must be doing it just to get a rise out of Bitter.

  1047. NYCmike says:

    “.he must be doing it just to get a rise out of Bitter.”

    -Is that the gayest post of the day?

  1048. Tgca says:

    Depression is weakness? May I see the medical peer-reviewed literature on that please. I seem to have missed that somehow.

  1049. Hugh says:

    It’s sad. Many college grads should have saved their parents money and unneeded debt. They gained no useful skills and are now democrats. Go figure??

  1050. NYCmike says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/03/20/morning-joe-deep-state-poll/

    -What Mika does NOT understand……conservatives/Republicans already thought this, NOW, because Trump was elected, leftists/Democrats have learned to FEAR BIG GOVERNMENT.

    The Dems provided Trump with all of the tools!

  1051. Tgca says:

    NYC

    Be careful with trying to get a rise out of Bitter. You never know, he has friends with pistols so he just might be packing and ready to shoot.

  1052. Hugh says:

    How many we’ll employed college grads are Republicans. You know engineers finance majors accountants versus teachers poli sci communication majors. You know bartenders

  1053. NYCmike says:

    Reports of arrests at that school down in Parkland, FL where the terrible shootings occurred last month.

    Too late for the 17 victims.

  1054. Hugh says:

    Bitter I respect your view on depression. You believe that you are responsible for your situation. You are not a victim. My brother drives for uber with an accounting degree from
    IU. He is a staunch Republican who takes responsibility for his situation. You are an attorney who supports his family so I am not comparing that. But depression is real and while a crutch for many it’s real. My wife has had mild depression but has used exercise to overcome it. You seem to have a good life compared to most. If you are not happy it is no weakness after all these years to consider medication. I am not a fan of medication for Add or depression. Sometimes it makes sense.

  1055. lisab says:

    versus teachers poli sci communication majors.
    ————————————-

    teachers have plenty of job openings

  1056. Bitterlaw says:

    Hugh – We have had our differences. I’m an A-hole. What do you expect? I know you mean well.

    There is no medication or therapy that can fix the things that bother me. Taking medication or talking about it will never change things. For example, while the past can never be undone it can also never be fixed. What bothered me then haunts me now.

  1057. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1052. “https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-20/in-world-s-murder-capital-brazilians-are-ready-to-buy-some-guns?utm_source=twitter&utm_content=business&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&cmpid=socialflow-twitter-business

    -As Instapundit wrote “THIS COULD BE AN INTERESTING EXPERIMENT:”

    The situation in Brazil is complex. It is hard sometimes to tell the difference between police, militia and bad guys. Often the police engage in criminal conduct. Many of the murders in Brazil are by police/militia killing criminals. Years past what were known as “death squads” were common.

    A close friend of mine is former U.S. marine who was originally from Brazil. He did not live in a favela, but was close to one. He and many of the local boys were part of a the police-supported local militia. I heard chilling stories of what happened to local thugs.

    ________________

    “RIO DE JANEIRO, BRAZIL – A recent report came to light last week (December 4th) stating that of the estimated 1,001 favela communities in Rio, nearly half are being controlled by illegal militia gangs – organized crime rings typically composed of current or ex-police. Five years after the UPP (Police Pacification Unit) program launched, the study illustrated how much further there is to go to achieve peace in the city’s most violent communities.

    * * * *
    A report in July 2011 indicated militias were responsible for almost half of the homicides in Rio. Figures from the special Divisão de Homicídios (Homicide Division) show that 45 percent of the murders in Rio de Janeiro in 2010 were committed by militias, more than the drug gangs that had traditionally controlled crime in Rio’s favelas.”

  1058. Bitterlaw says:

    Hugh – Your wife is strong. Good for her.

  1059. NYCmike says:

    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2018/03/deep-state.html

    -I guess we owe Robbie a THANK YOU for trying to further the populaces understanding of the term “Deep State”.

  1060. NYCmike says:

    On that Althouse link, the first comment mentions the fact that from the Maryland shooting today, where the security officer did his job, that the name of the shooter HAS NOT BEEN PUBLICIZED.

  1061. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is a video of two Brazilian military police executing teenage robbers; one survived.

    “Brazilian television show Fantastico obtained footage from inside the vehicle of two military police officers in Rio, who picked up teenagers accused of robbery and drove them to a secluded forest to shoot them. Watch here with English subtitles.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agjsvv5eQQQ

  1062. Bitterlaw says:

    Which will happen first?

    Mueller ends his investigation OR

    Dave gives us a new thread?

  1063. Walt says:

    Shoveling snow sucks…like vacuuming.

    Using the snow blower was more fun.

    I am a sore puppy.
    Getting ready to go hit er again.

  1064. Cash Cow TM says:

    WHERE MY DAMN NEW THREAD AT?

    Someone needs to put the bat signal spotlight up so Dave W. can see it.

  1065. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    REVENGE: Baseball Player Kills, Eats Bull Who Injured Elbow…

  1066. Bitterlaw says:

    Villanova plays West Virginia on Friday night. Who goes to the Elite 8? Cash Cow told me she is betting on Nova.

  1067. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    March 20, 2018 at 7:23 pm
    Wes – Your lies are as weak as your wedding vows.
    ——————————————————————————————————————
    LOL

  1068. BayernFan says:

    Link to Illinois primary results?

  1069. MichiganGuy says:


    Illinois
    .
    Governor Republican Primary:
    .
    Rauner 52.3%
    Ives 47.7%
    No winner declared 45% in
    .
    Governor Democratic Primary:
    .
    Pritzker 44.2% Winner
    Biss 26.9
    Kennedy 25.2

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/20/us/elections/results-illinois-primary-elections.html

  1070. BayernFan says:

    Wow lipinski is losing

  1071. MichiganGuy says:

    BayernFan, Lipinski is a pro-life conservative. Progressives want him out.

  1072. CG says:

    Lipinksi is still ahead and will likely eke it out.

    There was a tabulation error (unless the Machine did something to fix it for him)

    There is no way he is going to be able to hold that district in a 2020 primary though.

  1073. MichiganGuy says:

    Illinois
    .
    Governor Republican Primary:
    .
    Rauner 51.7% Winner
    Jeanne Ives 48.3 %
    92% in
    .
    U.S. House District 3
    .
    Democratic Primary
    .

    Lipinski 50.9%
    Marie Newman 49.1
    No winner declared 95% in
    .
    C’mon Lipinski! You can do it. Win one for the Gipper. lol

  1074. MichiganGuy says:

    MSNBC called the race for Lipinski.

  1075. CG says:

    How many of you would vote for the Republican nominee in IL 3, who is legitimately an Illinois Nazi over Lipinski?

    Binary choices and all…

    How about if it were the Nazi vs. the Bernie Sanders socialist?

  1076. CG says:

    For the record, I’d easily vote for Lipinski over the Nazi.

    I wouldn’t vote for Newman or him theoretically, but would write someone in, just like some of us did for President.

    In my state, we have two really distasteful nominees for Governor, but Illinois Republicans dodged a worse bullet at least.

    Unlike the Presidential contest, I will manage to find a way to vote for one of them.. Rauner.

  1077. MichiganGuy says:

    Illinois has open primaries. I’m thinking a lot of Republicans knowing a Republican candidate doesn’t have a chance of winning Congressional District 3 voted for Lipinski in the dem primary.

  1078. CG says:

    Lipinski won because of conservatives and Hispanics, beyond his traditional party Machine and labor union base.

    I don’t see how he would survive a Presidential turnout though in a primary.

  1079. MichiganGuy says:

    I’m loving the dem meltdown over at dailykos over Lipinski’s win.
    .

    deadpan
    Mar 21 · 02:09:25 PM

    I am so disgusted with the result in IL-03. We had a great chance to replace a Republican-lite Blue Dog with a progressive Dem in a safe D district, and lost it because of the corrupt machine, Lipinski’s sleazeball tactics, the open primary, etc., we lost. Democrats: the party so inept, we can’t even win Democratic primaries.
    .

    DownstateDemocrat
    Mar 21 · 01:06:08 PM

    Well, that was probably our one and only chance of defeating Lipinski (I doubt that Newman runs in 2020, and there isn’t much of a progressive bench in IL-3), and we came up just short.
    .

    57andFemale
    Mar 21 · 10:54:19 AM

    No, Brian Williams, Lipinski’s narrow win (51-49) is not a referendum on pro life Dems in 2018. I so wanted him to lose, but this is where national pundits who know nothing spout off. Lipinski is a rw tool.
    .
    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  1080. Tina says:

    For the record, I will support Hillary again.

    Jebot

  1081. Tina says:

    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    26m
    “Special Council is told to find crimes, whether a crime exists or not. I was opposed to the selection of Mueller to be Special Council. I am still opposed to it. I think President Trump was right when he said there never should have been a Special Council appointed because…..
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    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
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    …there was no probable cause for believing that there was any crime, collusion or otherwise, or obstruction of justice!” So stated by Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz.

    Trump tweets citing Dershowitz

    Defund Mulehead.

  1082. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t think Corey or Robbie voted for Hillary. They did not vote to stop her, either.

  1083. MichiganGuy says:

    * BOOM BOOM *
    .
    Calif. school district fires teacher who ripped military.
    .
    http://thehill.com/homenews/news/379478-calif-school-district-fires-teacher-who-ripped-military

  1084. MichiganGuy says:

    Ah New Thread.