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GOP Trailing in US Senate Races in AZ, NV and TN

Public Policy Polling released some new US Senate polls, admittedly for a leftist organization, but shows Republicans losing three seats in the US Senate, Arizona, Nevada and Tennessee.

US SENATE – ARIZONA (PPP)
Kyrsten Sinema (D) 46%
Martha McSally (R) 41%

US SENATE – NEVADA (PPP)
Jacky Rosen (D) 44%
Dean Heller (R-inc) 39%

US SENATE – PENNSYLVANIA (PPP)
Bob Casey (D-inc) 54%
Lou Barletta (R) 36%

US SENATE – TENNESSEE (PPP)
Phil Bredesen (D) 46
Marsha Blackburn (R) 41%

US SENATE – WISCONSIN (PPP)
Tammy Baldwin (D-inc) 51%
Leah Vukmir (R) 39%

Tammy Baldwin (D-inc) 51%
Kevin Nicholson (R) 38%

The AZ/PA/TN/WI polls were done March 15-16 while the NV poll was done March 15-17, all among likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 11:10 am
Filed under: General | Comments (1,046)

1,046 Responses to “GOP Trailing in US Senate Races in AZ, NV and TN”

  1. Tina says:

    Garbage, drat firm

  2. Tina says:

    We all knew that the rs woukd do an omnibus bill. They promised that they would not.

  3. NYCmike says:

    “Who will he back on the spending bill? Trump supports it, and the HFC hates it. ”

    -What about “regular” Republicans? They probably like it as well.

    I think Robbie goes with Trump on this, but doesn’t say so. He just goes after the HFC for “showboating” or some such nonsense.

    Same way jason will go after Rand Paul for his statements in regard to the omnibus bill.

  4. NYCmike says:

    “I can’t think of ONE congressman or senator that is to the left of Trump. Not one.”

    -Name the number of legal immigrants you want to enter the country.

    Trump would be ok with 1/2 million (yes, Cotton-Perdue).

    Any elected politician who wants more “is to the left of Trump”.

  5. NYCmike says:

    “I look forward to watching the same media that cheered a sitting VP saying he would kick a political opponent’s @ss now all of a sudden finding Trump’s far more tame tweet outrageously outrageous!”

    -“CG” and Robbie do NOT APPROVE of that un-Presidential tweet!

  6. NYCmike says:

    MichiganGuy says:
    March 22, 2018 at 12:22 am

    janz, even if by some miracle Cox won; it wouldn’t change anything. Democrats would still control the state legislature. Did Pete Wilson or Arnold Schwarzenegger make any difference?

    -MG,

    Both of those men gave in and made deals.

    One time, just say “NO”.

    What is the policy if a new budget is not passed? Does the level of spending just stay the same as before? How does it work in state (and federal) governments?

  7. Waingro says:

    Stick those polls in the garbage dumpster.

  8. NYCmike says:

    “Thanks Janz, I forgot to mention that. Trump is finally giving the Ukrainians the weapons they need;”

    -W T F! ?

    San Diego, I linked to Ukraine arms sales hours before janz did!!

  9. DW says:

    Real Clear Politics didn’t even acknowledge these PPP-D polls, but Dave W does.

  10. NYCmike says:

    “I said to not praise Putin for his bs election. Trump should call Putin and say, “Vlad. Here’s the deal. My military can bitch slap your military anywhere in the world. Anywhere. We don’t want that, right? I will let you pretend to be relevant but you have to stop poisoning people around the world. Got it?””

    -Thankfully, janz already remarked on this very silly (even for Bitterlaw) statement.

  11. Tgca says:

    11th! F*ck yeah!!!

  12. Messy57 says:

    PPP is actually a pretty good firm. We’ll have to see what they say in October.

    Meanwhile the market’s tanking and one of Trump’s top lawyers has resigned.

  13. MichiganGuy says:

    New Census Bureau Population Estimates Show Dallas-Fort Worth-Arlington Has Largest Growth in the United States.
    .
    https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2018/popest-metro-county.html

  14. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    If it’s any consolation to you retards, Trump’s done so much long-term damage to the economy and the country; the upcoming Democratic super majority will be spending almost all of their time fixing them for the next decade.

    But at least the GOP won’t control redistricting this time around and make the nations problems worse.

  15. Waingro says:

    #12, they are ok with their final polls right before the election when their credibility is on the line. They keep their thumbs on the scale until then.

    This is especially so for polls like today, which are paid for by a far left interest group. In this case, they are giving their customer what they paid for.

  16. Phil says:

    “upcoming Democratic super majority”

    Uh, the United States is not California, so no, there will be no “super majority” but hey, feel free to continue with your little wet dream.

  17. Phil says:

    PPP does this all the time when contracting with leftist interest groups. They do it early in the cycle when there is no upcoming election to check their work. Standard operating procedure. In this case read their push question and how they phrase it. It’s a hoot.

  18. MichiganGuy says:

    Waingro, I agree 100%

  19. Phil says:

    When they aren’t doing contract polling for leftist groups – environmental, planned parenthood etc PPP will do early push polls to help with fundraising for the Democratic candidate.

    They did one for Texas a month ago to help Beto in his race against Cruz showing Beto within seven points. It helped O’Rourke too. He has raised a lot of money from out of state liberals who read this poll and think he is within striking distance. In reality, Beto is using his campaign to audition for a gig on MSNBC when in reality he has as much of a chance of keeping Texas close as I do winning a statewide race in California.

  20. NYCmike says:

    “the upcoming Democratic super majority”

    -California FOR ALL!

    The super wealthy in their mansions, and the poor living in tent cities, living side-by-side in harmony!

  21. Redmen4ever says:

    The more seats the Ds think are in play, the most difficult it will be for them to concentrate GOTV on the crucial ones.

    I’m hoping they think they have a shot at Ted Cruz’s Senate seat. I want them to bus voters from Atlanta to Dallas.

    Perhaps some of you know this: part of Kellyanne’s strategy to win Wisconsin was advertising in Illinois. The purpose of the Illinois ads was to keep some potential insta-Badgers home in Illinois thinking their state was in play.

    With a trifecta in New Hampshire, maybe we can get rid of that state’s same day registration and have a chance to win that state’s electoral votes.

  22. BayernFan says:

    And yet the generic party preference polls are tightening. Go figure.

  23. NYCmike says:

    “Perhaps some of you know this: part of Kellyanne’s strategy to win Wisconsin was advertising in Illinois.”

    -Yes.

    I believe Robbie follows KAC, and shared this information with us…… 🙂

  24. Bitterlaw says:

    Only in NYC’s world is the number of LEGAL immigrants you support a defining factor on whether a person is liberal or conservative.

    Did a legal immigrant steal NYC’s lunch when he was a child?

  25. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    I showed one policy initiative where Jason’s blanket statement is clearly incorrect.

    Why don’t you deal with his incorrect blanket statement instead of saying that I said something which I did not?

    You don’t have to keep proving that you are an A-Hole. We are quite confident in your ability already.

  26. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – You posted that any elected official who wants more than 1/2 million new legal immigrants is to the left of Trump. I disagree that wanting more legal immigration makes somebody a leftist.

  27. mnw says:

    RE: The Kindergarden (sic) Kid #14

    It’s back, with all the charm (and illiteracy!) we’ve come to expect.

    Messytroll

    We don’t care. Why don’t you & TIPW get married? He probably spells “disintegrate” with three “i”s just like you do.

    A match made in heaven!

  28. NYCmike says:

    “I disagree that wanting more legal immigration makes somebody a leftist.”

    #MeToo

    You should try out for the next summer Olympics. I think you have potential in the long jump.

  29. dblaikie says:

    I am glad that Dowd resigned since he was the champion of accepting whatever Mueller wants. Joe DeGenova will not just roll over.

  30. NYCmike says:

    “NYC – You posted that any elected official who wants more than 1/2 million new legal immigrants is to the left of Trump.”

    -In regards to immigration, a politician who wants more immigration is considered more liberal.

    Do you disagree?

    Personally, I would probably fall into that category, of being more liberal than what Cotton/Perdue calls for.

    BUT, I am not an “absolutist” in regards to this number, as some people seem to be.

  31. Chicon says:

    22 – BF, Robbie has educated us. Congressional Generic Ballot numbers are not relevant in predicting the number of seats each party will win. Only Trump’s JA can predict that. History proves it, except when it doesn’t.

  32. NYCmike says:

    ” He probably spells “disintegrate” with three “i”s just like you do.”

    -Sticking with the same letter does make it easier to type when using “hunt-and-peck”.

  33. NYCmike says:

    “-In regards to immigration,”

    -Words which Bitterlaw will ignore in 3…..2……1…..

  34. Bitterlaw says:

    I disagree. A person who wants blanket amnesty for illegal immigrants is more liberal. A person who wants more LEGAL immigrants is not more liberal.

  35. Tina says:

    Did we ever get a rationale for the jebot concern about Digenove

  36. NYCmike says:

    “I disagree. A person who wants blanket amnesty for illegal immigrants is more liberal. A person who wants more LEGAL immigrants is not more liberal.”

    -“not more liberal”.

    Are they more conservative?

    OR, are they more “to the left”?

  37. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/03/22/spirit-airlines-apologizes-to-kyle-kashuv-for-overly-political-flight-attendant/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

    -Amazing to watch how the media has portrayed the Hogg kid vs how they have totally ignored this kid…..who is actually getting something done.

    BUT, according to Robbie, Twitchy is not a reliable source, since they use actual footage you can see, as opposed to “5 anonymous sources”, which is clearly much better.//

  38. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/976874550112768001

    -This confirms my belief that Robbie will side with Trump on this one, against the HFC.

    Anything that will bring on the loss of the House Robbie will be happy to vote for.

  39. NYCmike says:

    Tax cuts and then the shutdown….that seems to have been the high point.

    If the omnibus bill is passed, Trump, along with Congress, will severely hurt Republicans chances in November if they act in such a Pelosi-Reid-Obama sort of way. Voters are going to stay home.

  40. Robbie says:

    Tariffs are economically destructive job killers and taxes on Americans so of course an economic dolt like Trump would be in favor of them.

    How that talking about the stock market at an all-time high working for you, Don?

  41. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    RIP!! Sad News!

    “Congressman Kevin Cramer’s(R-ND) son Isaac has passed away today. RIP.”

  42. Chicon says:

    Where’s the mass departures from the Cabinet that the MSM breathlessly promised at least a week ago. They were to happen within 24 hours. I read it here, too, from the usual MSM sycophants.

  43. NYCmike says:

    “Tariffs are economically destructive job killers and taxes on Americans so of course an economic dolt like _ _ _ _ _ _ would be in favor of them.”

    -Do any other names fit in that spot?

    I don’t like tariffs, theoretically.

    Just wondering if any other Presidents have used tariffs at all, and should be included in your statement…..

  44. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 2:03 pm
    https://twitter.com/JesseKellyDC/status/976874550112768001
    -This confirms my belief that Robbie will side with Trump on this one, against the HFC.
    Anything that will bring on the loss of the House Robbie will be happy to vote for.

    – Jesse Kelly. LOL

    I always assumed you were simply misguided, but now I think you’re either stupid or just a useful idiot for Trump.

    If you think I’m rooting for the House to turn over, then you haven’t been paying attention. But that’s par for the course for you.

    I’ve argued since last March and April Republicans needed to corral Trump and distance themselves from him precisely because I was worried slavish support of him could cause a disastrous loss in the House. In fact, I’ve argued the best way to hold the House is throw out Trump and make Pence president.

    But you just keep doing what you’ve been doing.

  45. NYCmike says:

    “-This confirms my belief that Robbie will side with Trump on this one, against the HFC.”

    -Robbie decides to go after a person reporting the news, instead of giving an opinion on the omnibus bill supported (?) by Trump (?) and a Republican Congress (?).

  46. NYCmike says:

    Robbie position:

    Tariffs – BAD!

    Omnibus spending bill – LOOK OVER THERE!

  47. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    March 22, 2018 at 2:20 pm
    Where’s the mass departures from the Cabinet that the MSM breathlessly promised at least a week ago. They were to happen within 24 hours. I read it here, too, from the usual MSM sycophants.

    – That’s the best you’ve got? Sad. I guess you’ve had to tone it down lately after you saw Seth Rich’s family is suing FoxNews for their disgraceful story that the DNC had Seth Rich murdered.

    Remember, you believed that story.

    Anyway, the press also wrote that Trump was upset with his legal team and was looking to shake it up. Your supreme leader claimed the NYT story 11 days ago was fake news. Now, he’s hired conspiracy theorist Joe DiGenova, he’s had Ted Olsen turn him down, and now John Dowd has quit.

  48. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Why do you avoid an opinion on the omnibus spending bill?

    Do you agree with:

    Trump?

    -OR-

    The House Freedom Caucus?

  49. NYCmike says:

    Seth Rich again……ay dios mio!

  50. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 2:22 pm
    “Tariffs are economically destructive job killers and taxes on Americans so of course an economic dolt like _ _ _ _ _ _ would be in favor of them.”
    -Do any other names fit in that spot?
    I don’t like tariffs, theoretically.
    Just wondering if any other Presidents have used tariffs at all, and should be included in your statement…..

    – Plug this statement into the translator and it comes out “Must protect the Trump”.

    NYCmike is the master of Trump whataboutism.

  51. Chicon says:

    47 – I would suspect that a very high percentage of the readers of your posts believe you want the Republicans to lose the House. Is this because all those readers misunderstand you, or because the communication of one person is flawed. Occam’s razor would suggest it’s more likely the latter.

  52. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 2:24 pm
    “-This confirms my belief that Robbie will side with Trump on this one, against the HFC.”
    -Robbie decides to go after a person reporting the news, instead of giving an opinion on the omnibus bill supported (?) by Trump (?) and a Republican Congress (?).

    – Let’s be honest. You’re upset they passed the bill because all you ever want is a shutdown.

    You pine here about conservative bills and yet you support Trump without question. There’s a massive contradiction there, but you apparently can’t see the forest for the tree.

  53. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 2:25 pm
    Robbie position:
    Tariffs – BAD!
    Omnibus spending bill – LOOK OVER THERE!

    – NYCmike’s position:

    Omnibus spending bill – bad

    Trump – AWESOME ALL OF THE TIME

  54. NYCmike says:

    “– Plug this statement into the translator and it comes out “Must protect the Trump”.”

    -Well, for you, it sure is easier than realizing you are deranged.

  55. NYCmike says:

    “You pine here about conservative bills and yet you support Trump without question.”

    -That is odd.

    I don’t want Trump to sign this omnibus bill, yet you say I support him without question.

    Also, you refuse to answer if you support Trump, or the HFC, in regards to the omnibus bill.

    What say you?

  56. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Why don’t you give an opinion on the omnibus bill?

  57. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    March 22, 2018 at 2:28 pm
    47 – I would suspect that a very high percentage of the readers of your posts believe you want the Republicans to lose the House. Is this because all those readers misunderstand you, or because the communication of one person is flawed. Occam’s razor would suggest it’s more likely the latter.

    – Most of the commenters here want an echo chamber of positivity. They don’t want to hear that anything could possibly be bad. So when they hear a view that isn’t sunshine and roses, they assume someone is rooting for bad. Wrong. I’m simply not going to tell myself fairy tales like some here refer to do.

    As CG pointed out yesterday, this forum attacked Wes as “White flag Wes” in 2006 and 2008 because he was negative about those elections. I was attacked for holding the same views those years as well. Of course you know that because you claim to have been a lurker here since 2004.

  58. NYCmike says:

    “– Most of the commenters here want an echo chamber of positivity.”

    I would like to have a discussion about the omnibus bill, but you won’t give an opinion.

    Why not?

  59. NYCmike says:

    I am downright negative about the omnibus bill.

    YET, Robbie doesn’t join me…..maybe he wants “an echo chamber of positivity.”

  60. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 2:33 pm
    Robbie,
    Why don’t you give an opinion on the omnibus bill?

    – I favor keeping the government up and running. Your fanciful view that Trump and this Congress were going to usher in an era of Tea Party conservatism that makes the HFC warm and fuzzy was never going to happen, especially with a legislative illiterate like Trump as president.

    I favor legislation that steers center right and shows the country Republicans can govern.

  61. Robbie says:

    And by the way, in the time in which we live, keeping the government open, sadly, qualifies as showing the country Republicans can govern.

  62. NYCmike says:

    “And by the way, in the time in which we live, keeping the government open, sadly, qualifies as showing the country Republicans can govern.”

    -It does? Why? Who says so? The talking heads you watch?

  63. NYCmike says:

    ” I favor keeping the government up and running.”

    “I favor legislation that steers center right and shows the country Republicans can govern.”

    -Bitterlaw,

    Trillion $$ deficits are now considered “center right”.

    I need a new dictionary!

  64. Chicon says:

    60 – every poster on here is generally understood by the crowd, whether the like Trump, tolerate him or hate him. You, though, are misunderstood. Right….

  65. Chicon says:

    63 – up and running is your standard? Nothing about types of spending, or deficits, etc? As long as the doors are open, that’s all that matters?

    Principled stance.

  66. Tina says:

    Yeah omnibus bill is sheot.

    But its another ryano, mitchie special.

    They always lose to piglosi and schumah.

  67. Tina says:

    Muleheads key witness to zilcho has fled the country,

    Pedo.

    Sickening what he did abroad.

    Got only one year of prison.

  68. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    March 22, 2018 at 2:51 pm
    60 – every poster on here is generally understood by the crowd, whether the like Trump, tolerate him or hate him. You, though, are misunderstood. Right….

    – The only time people in this forum, reluctantly, acknowledge they don’t care for Trump’s antics is after I have pressed the case. Otherwise, this is a red hat MAGA forum where only good, make that, great things are said about the dear orange leader and his decisions.

    Unlike most here who claim they are not happy with the way Trump acts, I’m unafraid to say I’m unhappy with the way Trump acts and believe he is destroying the party.

    Of course, I’m assuming this forum still cares about the Republican Party rather than just Trump. Jason fraud, for example, left the Republican Party over Trump, yet spends his time here demanding Republicans defend Trump without question. Odd for someone who left the party over Trump.

    Of course, you know all of this since you have been a lurker here since 2004, right?

  69. Robbie says:

    Dow down 575 points.

    But muh tariffs!

  70. NYCmike says:

    “– The only time people in this forum, reluctantly, acknowledge they don’t care for Trump’s antics is after I have pressed the case.”

    -Don’t strain yourself patting yourself on the back!

    You have to be kidding, right?

    You can’t be a person that is both a deranged Trump hater, AND be a person with an ego surpassing Polaris, can you?

  71. NYCmike says:

    “Dow down 575 points.”

    -BUYING OPPORTUNITY!

  72. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Do you own any stocks? Do you invest in a 401K? Roth IRA?

    Any retirement planning?

  73. CG says:

    I acknowledge I do not care for Trump with each and every opportunity I can find.

  74. Tina says:

    The millenials and welfare recipients are not likely to have such retirement plans.

  75. CG says:

    It’s kind of funny to see John Cox polling in second place in the California Governors race.

    I have a lot of stories I could tell about him, from about 15 years ago, when he was a perennial candidate for office in Illinois (and really, really wanted to hire me.)

    Of course, I did vote for him when he was our nominee for Cook County Recorder of Deeds.

    It would be a positive for Republicans down the ballot if somehow both the Gov and U.S Senate races in California are not Democrats only in the general election, but that still seems unlikely.

  76. NYCmike says:

    “Meadows pointed out the giant flaws of the plan:
    – Record spending levels
    – No wall/border security
    – Obamacare intact
    – Funds Planned Parenthood
    – Sanctuary Cities funded
    – Barely 24 hours to read a 2,300 page bill”

    -Bitterlaw,

    Are the items above more “liberal” or more “conservative”?

  77. NYCmike says:

    “The millenials and welfare recipients are not likely to have such retirement plans.”

    -“CG”,

    Have you looked into one yet?

    Maybe I’ll meet you in Omaha the first Saturday in May, and we can learn some tricks of the trade from the best in the business.

  78. CG says:

    He’s an ardent Democrat.

  79. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 3:26 pm
    Robbie,
    Do you own any stocks? Do you invest in a 401K? Roth IRA?
    Any retirement planning?

    – Yes. Tariffs are terrible. They are taxes on the consumer. They raise prices and never have the intended effect. Trump has a 19th century, mercantilist approach to trade. I’m sorry to be the one to tell trump, but the 19th century called and they want their discredited policies back.

    Unfortunately, Trump is listening to a blithering idiot named Peter Navarro, a Democrat protectionist, who supported Clinton’s 1996 campaign. Of course, so did Trump.

  80. CG says:

    Peter Navarro was active in Hillary’s 2008 campaign and has run for office as a Democrat several times.

  81. NYCmike says:

    “I have a lot of stories I could tell about him, from about 15 years ago, when he was a perennial candidate for office in Illinois (and really, really wanted to hire me.)”

    -15 years ago? Wanted to hire you?

    How old are you?

    You have stated that you don’t have a retirement account to speak of. If he was trying to hire you 15 years ago, that would put you between, at the least, 35-40 years old?

    What are you going to rely on, Social Security?

    Or do you make MD-type-buck$$?

  82. NYCmike says:

    ” Trump has a 19th century, mercantilist approach to trade.”

    -Just for clarity’s sake, have other Republican Presidents also had this approach?

  83. Robbie says:

    Dow down 600.

    More tariffs!

  84. Tina says:

    Nyc,

    Ppl looks attractive.

    6 percent yield.

  85. CG says:

    Thank you for being so concerned.

    Based on the information I currently have, I am not going to be able to “retire.” I will work and try to lead a normal as possible life until I cannot.

  86. Tina says:

    The dow could be done do to profit taking.

    Afterall a huge run up since the defeat of the jebots candidate.

    And interest rates rising.

    I do not like these rate increases.

  87. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 3:38 pm
    ” Trump has a 19th century, mercantilist approach to trade.”
    -Just for clarity’s sake, have other Republican Presidents also had this approach?

    – The last was Hoover. Tell me how that worked out.

    Every Republican president since Ike has been a basic free trader.

    Nixon tried tariffs in 1971, among other stupid ideas, and they had a disastrous effect.

  88. Tina says:

    Down.

  89. Tina says:

    I am sure that the market will go down a bit more, when nafta is terminated.

  90. Robbie says:

    The Associated Press
    @AP

    BREAKING: Dow Jones industrial average plunges 600 points as worries over trade tensions with China rattle financial markets .

  91. NYCmike says:

    “Dow down 600.”

    -Personally, at my age, down 6000 would be better.

    I would like to invest my $$ at a lower price.

  92. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Do you know who Buffett and Munger are?

  93. Tina says:

    600 over 25000 is nada.

    800 over 3200 is significant.

  94. NYCmike says:

    And, what sort of retirement accounts do you have?

    Do you purchase shares on a regular basis?

    Market going down, now, at your age, will be better for the future you!

  95. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 3:44 pm
    Robbie,
    Do you know who Buffett and Munger are?

    – Of course.

  96. Tina says:

    We need trump to come out and veto ryano, piglois omnibus.

  97. NYCmike says:

    “– Of course.”

    -Well, if you know who they are, why is a small correction in the stock market worth hyperventilating about?

  98. Tina says:

    Nick Short ??
    Nick Short ??
    @PoliticalShort
    ·
    1h
    The GOP omnibus bill:

    -2,232 pages long
    -Bait and switch on the wall
    -Funds sanctuary cities
    -Doesn’t fund interior enforcement
    -Funds Planned Parenthood
    -Student loan bailout
    -Funds Schumer’s Gateway projects earmark

    Sell outs.

  99. Robbie says:

    Tariffs are stupid policy because they are a tax on consumers. It’s doubly stupid to implement them in an election year, but we are talking about Trump.

  100. NYCmike says:

    “We need trump to come out and veto ryano, piglois omnibus.”

    -That would show that Republicans are unable to govern, according to Robbie.

  101. Tina says:

    I love sanctuary cities being funded and planned parenthood.

    Jebots

  102. Tina says:

    They need to line out that schumah boondoggle

  103. CG says:

    While the situation surrounding it is complex, and there are no easy answers, the entire concept of the Omnibus is horrible. Trump will sign it though and his apologists will support him for doing so.

  104. Tina says:

    We need more spending

    Goober Graham

  105. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    You already said that about tariffs.

    How about an omnibus spending bill, which does all of the things that Meadows said it does?

    Is that the way to get Republicans and Independents to vote for Republicans at a high rate?

  106. NYCmike says:

    “Trump will sign it though and his apologists will support him for doing so.”

    -“CG”,

    Neither you or Robbie have stated if you support Trump signing it, or if you support the HFC who think Trump should veto it.

  107. Tina says:

    The jebots are for it.

  108. Tina says:

    But they could be aagainst it because it does not spend enough.

  109. Robbie says:

    I love the NYCmike thinks quoting Mark Meadows is going to impress me.

  110. Robbie says:

    Example 6489 that tariffs often hurt those they are supposed to help.

    John Dearie
    ?@John_Dearie

    Interesting to note that the stocks of the very companies last month’s steel tariffs were intended to help are some of the worst performers following today’s announcement of China tariffs — NU down 5%, X down more than 9%.

  111. Tina says:

    illo Retweeted
    Nick Short ??
    Nick Short ??
    @PoliticalShort
    ·
    4h
    Surely a former CIA chief like Brennan wouldn’t float rumors about a foreign power blackmailing POTUS if he didn’t have info to back up this kind of contention….Perhaps Brennan needs to be put under oath so we can all see what he “knows.”

    Next one to take out is brennan,

  112. NYCmike says:

    “I love the NYCmike thinks quoting Mark Meadows is going to impress me.”

    -Robbie,

    Who said it would impress you?

    You are FOR the omnibus bill, or are you AGAINST it?

    OR, are you waiting to see what Trump does, so you can FEEL the opposite about it?

  113. Tina says:

    David Hogg
    @davidhogg111
    Politicians: Yeah let’s make it easier to vote.

    Politicians Also: Wait let’s require voters to have id so we can suppress the vote of the people so I can get reelected via a system that disproportionatly effects people of color and the poor!???? Smh

    (link: https://www.aclu.org/other/oppose-voter-id-legislation-fact-sheet) aclu.org/other/oppose-v…
    Show

    More hogg please.

  114. NYCmike says:

    Repeat:

    “Neither you or Robbie have stated if you support Trump signing it, or if you support the HFC who think Trump should veto it.”

    Why are the 2 of you so afraid of stating your opinion on the omnibus bill?

  115. CG says:

    I would like to know more particulars of the entire situation and the arguments for and against before I spout off on something. I haven’t been following it closely, but my instinct is to tend to agree with the comments of Senator Sasse about how bad it is.

    Not sure if there is a better alternative though.

  116. CG says:

    I’ve never seen anyone online this obsessed with a 17 year old boy before than Tina.

  117. CG says:

    Unlike some, I actually want to know enough about a situation before I know for sure whether I am supportive or opposed. If I were a Member of Congress, it would of course be my responsibility to be properly informed.

    Over on the other blog, they were all upset that I did not at first take a position on the tax reform bill (of course they all thought it was Satanic) I said I did not know enough about it at the time, and as I went on learning more about it, I decided it was something I supported.

  118. Michael says:

    Bitter,

    I live in Marple Twp. but it is pretty nice. Yeah there are some Penn Stater’s around but their not really into basketball like I am I have seen.

    Where did your son go to college?

  119. NYCmike says:

    “but my instinct is to tend to agree with the comments of Senator Sasse about how bad it is.”

    -Oddly enough, Sasse sounds like Meadows on this…..yet, you don’t mention Meadows.

  120. Tina says:

    Gov. Mike Huckabee
    ?
    @GovMikeHuckabee
    If GOP funds Planned Parenthood again and thereby LIE to the voters again, then the incumbent GOP members of Congress need to be ABORTED at election time. You have BOTH houses of Congress and WH. Do. Your. Job. NOW! #DefundPP #NoExcuses
    7:11 PM – Mar 21, 2018

    Abort ryano

  121. Tina says:

    I mean I am against it because t does not spend enough.

    Jebot

  122. Tina says:

    Wray is no longer allowing briefings to members of congress on investigations,

    Mccabe did this for the ds many times.

  123. CG says:

    Meadows is irrelevant to me. Why would I consider him my “leader?”

    I am sure on a policy perspective, I agree with Meadows on a good deal of things, certainly more than Donald Trump agrees with Meadows.

  124. Tina says:

    Public perception of the media might help to explain why — despite a 24/7 onslaught against Trump using Putin, Playmates, and porn stars — his approval rating has been steadily climbing. As of this writing, and over the last couple weeks, Trump’s Real Clear Politics’ average approval rating has edged up 2 points, to a relatively healthy 42 percent. His disapproval rating has climbed down by an equal amount.

    Muh stormy? His aporoval is up 6 with women, per reuters.

    Major fail.

  125. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    Are any of these bullet points incorrect?

    Do any of these bullet points matter to you?

    – Record spending levels
    – No wall/border security
    – Obamacare intact
    – Funds Planned Parenthood
    – Sanctuary Cities funded
    – Barely 24 hours to read a 2,300 page bill”

  126. NYCmike says:

    “Why would I consider him my “leader?””

    -Who said you should “consider him my “leader?””?

  127. Tina says:

    I do not know how pablo ryano signs on to these deals.

    But I warned you, three extensions, 2shutdowns caused by Ds, and the rs woukd cave.

    Nothing new.

  128. Tina says:

    That is true, no 24hour notice.

    Ryano is a failure.

    Say bye bye to this romwnybot.

  129. Tina says:

    Looks like there is pressure in teump to veto ryano, piglosi omnibus.

    Hope it works.

  130. NYCmike says:

    Trump is for the omnibus. (??)
    Schumer/Pelosi is for the omnibus.
    Ryan/McConnell is for the omnibus.

    HFC/Sasse is against the omnibus.
    NYCmike is against the omnibus.

    Robbie/”CG” refuse to take a position…..waiting for JEB!2016 to tweet his support FOR or AGAINST?

  131. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw also quiet on whether he supports this bill…..3….2…….1…….until “deadenders” are mentioned in some capacity.

  132. CG says:

    “Wall” and “border security” are not the same thing.

    As commonly understood, “wall” would be an ineffective big government boondoggle that is nowhere near worth the money, especially since Americans will be paying for it.

    They all already missed the chance to get rid of Obamacare, because of Trump’s incompetence (and the stubbornness of the HFC), and then Trump gave up on it anyway.

    In regards to Ryan and McConnell though, the *only* two things that can be cited as legitimate Trump Admin accomplishments (i.e. Gorsuch and tax reform) were accomplished primarily because of McConnell and/or Ryan.

  133. CG says:

    It’s easy for NYC though.

    If Trump vetoes it (he won’t), NYC will applaud him.

    If Trump signs it and talks about how terrific if it, NYC will applaud him.

    It’s quite easy to “follow the leader” when all he has to do is march in lockstep with Trump.

  134. NYCmike says:

    “As commonly understood, “wall” would be an ineffective big government boondoggle that is nowhere near worth the money, especially since Americans will be paying for it.”

    -Yes, and we can look to Israel to see how wasteful a wall can be!

  135. Robbie says:

    I like Mike Pence. In fact, he was one of my early choices for the 2012 process before he decided not to run. I’d eagerly and enthusiastically vote for him for president as well.

    That said, it’s really disappointing to see Pence sticking so closely to Trump and, in fact, defending Trump on issues like trade protectionism and tariffs. I realize it’s part of his job, but it still stings to see an ardent free trader participating in tariff signings.

  136. NYCmike says:

    “If Trump signs it and talks about how terrific if it, NYC will applaud him.”

    -You are living in a different world.

    You still have not stated your opinion of it.

    What are you waiting for?

  137. CG says:

    Crazy, I didn’t know the Mexican government were lobbing rockets across the U.S. border trying to kill Americans.

    I guess I need to watch more Alex Jones and read more Gateway Pundit.

  138. NYCmike says:

    The wall in Israel is NOT DESIGNED to stop rocket attacks.

    Little known fact in Jebot-world: Rockets go into the air, and over the wall, when they are put to use.

  139. NYCmike says:

    “I like Mike Pence.”

    -So, that means you are FOR the omnibus bill, or AGAINST it?

    Still waiting……

  140. NYCmike says:

    I am going to call JEB’s office to see if I can ask him to make a public statement…..that way, “CG” and Robbie will know what they believe.

  141. jason says:

    MSM and Wobbie hardest hit.

    “FBI Director Christopher Wray said that politics did not play a role in the firing of Andrew McCabe, the former deputy director. In an interview, Wray said, “I am committed to doing things objectively and independently and by the book.”

  142. jason says:

    “I like Mike Pence. In fact, he was one of my early choices for the 2012 process before he decided not to run.”

    Amoral scumbag liar.

  143. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    How old were you when that guy tried to hire you 15 years ago?

    I would think a guy your age can take a position on an omnibus bill.

  144. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    Show the Jeb-ots how to take a position on this omnibus sh*tshow of a bill!

  145. NYCmike says:

    And make sure to throw on some colorful words about the HFC and Rand Paul as well!

  146. CG says:

    You can look to JEB’s record as eight years of Governor of Florida to see how conservative budgets were passed under his leadership.

  147. Tina says:

    Wry ha fired or demoted many of the coup plotters.

  148. Tina says:

    I like brokered convention.

    Jebot

  149. CG says:

    I haven’t been following the “omnibus debate” closely. Frankly, today is the first I have heard of this matter. Based on the limited information I currently have, I would vote no, but I have been preoccupied with “real life.”

  150. jason says:

    “Wall” and “border security” are not the same thing.”

    Exactly.

    You don’t need a physical wall on the entire border to provide border security.

    The wall can be virtual for large sections of the border, monitored with sensors, drones, satellite surveillance, etc.

    People who voted for Trump on the immigration issue really want border security, the wall is only one tool to accomplish it.

  151. jason says:

    And make sure to throw on some colorful words about the HFC and Rand Paul as well!”

    Sighhhh…. what did the deadender morons do this time?

  152. Robbie says:

    Daniel Lin
    @danwlin

    TRUMP: I’m going to teach you a lesson

    CHINA: Okay

    *Trump punches American businesses and consumers*

    TRUMP: Had enough?

    CHINA: Nope

    *Trump punches more American businesses and consumers*

    TRUMP: How about now?

  153. Tina says:

    Have Goober, the arizona flake out, the maine chicklet, spoken out?

  154. jason says:

    Has Ted Cruz gotten on TV yet to shut down the government?

  155. jason says:

    Trump will sign the omnibus bill.

    Elections have consequences.

  156. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 22, 2018 at 4:31 pm
    MSM and Wobbie hardest hit.
    “FBI Director Christopher Wray said that politics did not play a role in the firing of Andrew McCabe, the former deputy director. In an interview, Wray said, “I am committed to doing things objectively and independently and by the book.”

    – Oh, good. Jason fraud is here to shill for Trump.

    By the way, the evidence seems clear that McCabe’s firing was warranted.

  157. Tina says:

    Well trump never said a wall or physical barrier across the country,

    But the bush fencing that was done in 2006 is all broken down

    We need the wall in critical areas because the gubment of mexico is corrupt and cannot control the drugs or influx of illegals here.

    But a wall is onky ine component.

    But the party of lincoln and the jack arse party agree on lawlessness and illegals to do their landscaping.

  158. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 4:31 pm
    I am going to call JEB’s office to see if I can ask him to make a public statement…..that way, “CG” and Robbie will know what they believe.

    – Here’s my answer. No bill is perfect, but I favor keeping the government open.

    You, as usual, want to have shutdowns.

  159. Tina says:

    Hopefulky rand, or cruz filibuster this sheot bill.

  160. Tina says:

    The problem is then the gubment shuts down and we cannot have that because rs willl soil themselves.

  161. jason says:

    The HFC deadenders are only grandstanding, they want to be given “permission” to be deadenders.

    Zzzzzzzzz….

  162. Tina says:

    Speaking of the russians, when they encountered us in syria, their unit was largely destroyed. Only a few survivors.

  163. Tina says:

    No, this is really a sheot bill.

    The rs campaigned against this.

    Yet, they side with piglosi.

  164. jason says:

    “FBI Director Christopher Wray said that politics did not play a role in the firing of Andrew McCabe, the former deputy director. In an interview, Wray said, “I am committed to doing things objectively and independently and by the book.”

    – Oh, good. Jason fraud is here to shill for Trump.”

    Best non-sequitur of the day, but its early.

  165. jason says:

    Hopefulky rand, or cruz filibuster this sheot bill.”

    Depends on how much TV time they think they can get.

  166. Tina says:

    Wray is no longer having th fbi brief congresss on the fbis investigations,

    The fbi needs to fix itself quickly, after mulehead and comedy wrecked it.

  167. NYCmike says:

    “Has Ted Cruz gotten on TV yet to shut down the government?”

    -We can only hope that will be the case if Trump is not smart enough to veto this bill.

  168. Tina says:

    It is sad that mccabe, comedy, etc weaponized the fbi to target republican political campaigns.

  169. CG says:

    Trump repeatedly spoke about a physical wall. And remember who he promised would pay for it!

  170. NYCmike says:

    “You, as usual, want to have shutdowns.”

    -If necessary, to remind Republicans (including Trump) why they were voted into power….

  171. Tina says:

    The fbi ignored school shooters, jihadis, and criminals all because of the steele, russian, hilkary dossier.

  172. Tina says:

    I am sure that we are going to hear soin that steele, who should be indicted, was paid by the russians.

  173. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 4:49 pm
    “Has Ted Cruz gotten on TV yet to shut down the government?”
    -We can only hope that will be the case if Trump is not smart enough to veto this bill.

    – NYCmike, master strategist, suggests the erratic president with a 40% approval in RCP, should shut down the government in the lead up to midterms elections that are already shaping up to be cataclysmic for Republicans. Brilliant!

  174. Tina says:

    Yes a physical wall, but not ine across the entire us.

    I know the jebots are confused about that.

  175. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 4:50 pm
    “You, as usual, want to have shutdowns.”
    -If necessary, to remind Republicans (including Trump) why they were voted into power….

    – They were voted in to govern, not “shut it down”.

  176. NYCmike says:

    “And remember who he promised would pay for it!”

    -How a person in his 40’s, without any retirement plan, can point his finger at others, is pretty mind-blowing!

    That is another reason you should be THRILLED with Trump, he said he won’t change Social Security at all! You will need it!

  177. NYCmike says:

    Not sure if it will be there……

  178. NYCmike says:

    let me fix this:

    “– They were voted in to govern DIFFERENTLY from Democrats, not “shut it down”.”

    The omnibus bill is straight out of Pelosi-Reid playbook.

  179. Tina says:

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/22/mccabes-bogus-witch-hunt-of-jeff-sessions-confirms-worst-fears-about-fbi-doj-politicization/#.WrPwuyWtfL0.twitter

    Look at what drat mccabe did here.

    This is a lo g list of partisan activity for him,

    Gope the reports of him altering 302s are wrong.

    Clearly, he is under criminal investigation.

  180. Tina says:

    Jeb bush with his taco bowls is going to pay for the wall.

  181. NYCmike says:

    “that are already shaping up to be cataclysmic for Republicans”

    -Uncontrolled spending on Planned Parenthood and sanctuary cities will make conservatives and Republicans turn out in record numbers……

  182. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 22, 2018 at 4:54 pm
    Jeb bush with his taco bowls is going to pay for the wall.

    – Dipstick Don is the one who ate a taco bowl on Cinco de Mayo.

  183. Tina says:

    Speaking of russians has nude photo man, schiff tweeted soimethung new?

    Schiff is russian btw.

  184. Wes says:

    I don’t know if Trump’s proposed tariffs are the cause of the market plunge. They’re clearly not a help.

    Make America Smoot-Hawley again!

  185. NYCmike says:

    “– Dipstick”

    -What was that candy……FUN DIP!

    SO SWEET!

  186. Tina says:

    Hopefully there is no quid pro quo between thighness and mccabe over the fbi head position.

  187. CG says:

    I’m not “in my 40s”

    Have some patience

  188. Wes says:

    Those who do not remember the past are confemned to repeat it.

    –Santayana

  189. Tina says:

    I had cheese enchiladas on cinci de mayo.

  190. NYCmike says:

    Wes:

    Omnibus spending bill: YAY or NAY?*

    *Jeb-ots have NOT been able to take a position yet, the Mother Ship has NOT radiod down.

  191. Robbie says:

    Trump, master moron, is contemplating not having a chief of staff if John Kelly is fired or quits. What could go wrong?

    Trump should just fire every single person in the government and do it all with Jared and Ivanka. Then NYCmike could rave about how his Tea Party agenda is going to be implemented by a life long Democrat who happens to put a R after his name and two liberal Democrats from NYC.

  192. Wes says:

    Condemned*

    That just completely ruined that quote.

  193. Tina says:

    Hopefully, mccabe did not obstruct an investigarion, tamoer with evidence, and entrap flynn.

  194. NYCmike says:

    “I’m not “in my 40s””

    -That guy tried to hire you 15 years ago….right out of university, then?

  195. Wes says:

    I have not researched it enough to give an opinion, Mikey. I will do so snd let you know what I think.

  196. Tina says:

    Notice how the jebot mentioned jared and invanka.

    Notice who it is realky targeting there.

  197. CG says:

    And are you that dense that I have to spell out for you why I am not going to be depending on Social Security as a senior citizen? Do you need to actually see my medical records? It’s not really something that I want to discuss on here, so I would very much appreciate it if you can find someone else to go after me on.

  198. NYCmike says:

    “Those who do not remember the past are confemned to repeat it.”

    -Are you speaking about the tariffs, or the omnibus spending bill?

    BOTH of them apply.

  199. Tina says:

    I want the judge overseeing the flynn case to go full anti gubment on mulehead and his ds.

  200. jason says:

    An archive of the the Obama White House website shows Obama did in fact talk with Putin on March 9, 2012, following his election win.

    “President Obama called Russian President-elect and Prime Minister Putin to congratulate him on his recent victory in the Russian Presidential election,” according to the official summary, or “readout” of the call.

  201. NYCmike says:

    “I will do so snd let you know what I think.”

    -A bit of a “CG”-like dodge, but I patiently wait a response from both of you.

    Robbie hasn’t even gotten that far……he just keeps running around with scissors yelling “T A R I F F S ! ”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZhdjlvhTWc

  202. jason says:

    Has Ted Cruz gotten on TV yet to shut down the government?”

    -We can only hope that will be the case if Trump is not smart enough to veto this bill.”

    Don’t worry, if he can line up enough TV interviews he will be happy to oblige you

  203. NYCmike says:

    “CG”, I truly hope your health fortunes reverse to a more positive outlook.

  204. NYCmike says:

    In regards to the call by Trump to Putin: who leaked the contents of the call?

  205. Tina says:

    A lot of the downturn in the market is it being over bought.

    Also, fed raised rates today.

    This is not good.

  206. Tina says:

    The whale assured us that obama never called pooty poot.

    The rcord also shiws that bush never had pooty poot at his rnch.

    The records show that history cn be revised

  207. NYCmike says:

    ““CG”, I truly hope your health fortunes reverse to a more positive outlook.”

    -I would also say: Your previous answers on the subject were very similar to other, younger people whom I know, which is why I did not catch on to the underlying issues. Sorry about that.

  208. Tina says:

    And I am not listing to senators goober and mccain on foreign policy.

    Those folks have been wrong.

    Syria, libya, iraq.

    They need to quit.

  209. Tina says:

    No wonder the ds love Libya. It now has a slave trade.

  210. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    200. “Trump, master moron, is contemplating not having a chief of staff if John Kelly is fired or quits. What could go wrong?

    Trump should just fire every single person in the government and do it all with Jared and Ivanka. Then NYCmike could rave about how his Tea Party agenda is going to be implemented by a life long Democrat who happens to put a R after his name and two liberal Democrats from NYC.”

    That may actually work. Ivanka and Jared seem to be the only ones that get along with Trump. While they are running the country, Trump emulates Obama and spends all his time golfing, and Ivanka charms the world with her sweet tweets. The boredom would drive the press crazy.

  211. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    BTREAKING: McMasters is out at NSA. John Bolton will replace him.

  212. Phil says:

    220

    Get out the popcorn. This will drive the left and the never Trumpers to even greater heights of craziness. Expect the tantrum to end all tantrums.

    Expect CNN to announce that nuclear was is imminent.

  213. Tina says:

    They replaced him with a loon. Not a fan of Bolton.

    He is a bush bot.

  214. Tina says:

    But who knows…

    The socialist hates Bolton.

  215. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart
    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    4m
    Indeed, a grand jury that appears separate from Mulehead’s or the one in Little Rock.
    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    DoJ on Hse Judiciary Cmte’s subpoenas: We are individually reviewing the remaining documents to ensure that they do not include grand jury information, information about ongoing law enforcement actions involving American citizens, or privileged attorney-client communications.

    Grand jury time.

  216. Tina says:

    Lee Zeldin
    @RepLeeZeldin
    Amb John Bolton will be great National Security Adviser for @realDonaldTrump. Ridiculously knowledgable. Leaks from NSC will end. Obama holdovers will be gone & team, chemistry & work product will all get ramped up. Very underrated, amazing American. Extraordinarily talented pick

    The leakers do need to be gone. Hope this is done.

  217. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    March 22, 2018 at 1:32 pm
    22 – BF, Robbie has educated us. Congressional Generic Ballot numbers are not relevant in predicting the number of seats each party will win. Only Trump’s JA can predict that. History proves it, except when it doesn’t.

    – I missed this stupidity from chicon earlier so let me correct him. That’s not what I said and he knows it. I said the JA is the best predictor, but I never said the generic ballot doesn’t matter. In fact, I’ve never said any such thing. But then again, chicon lies.

  218. CG says:

    As being frequently mentioned, John Bolton is “about as hawkish and interventionist as they come.”

    So much for everything he said during the campaign about foreign policy, but at least a lot of those people are getting their tariffs.

  219. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    March 22, 2018 at 2:20 pm
    Where’s the mass departures from the Cabinet that the MSM breathlessly promised at least a week ago. They were to happen within 24 hours. I read it here, too, from the usual MSM sycophants.

    – Just four hours after chicon posted this, Trump fired HR McMaster on the same day he fired his personal lawyer John Dowd. And of course, these moves came just a week after Trump fired Tillerson while he was sitting on the toilet.

    But yeah, where are the departures?

  220. Robbie says:

    Just to put this in perspective, Trump fired the victor of the tank battle at 73 Easting for a clown who once rode a Segway on Fox & Friends.

  221. Tina says:

    The jebots are upset now.

    But bolton was a bushie.

  222. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    March 22, 2018 at 7:07 pm
    As being frequently mentioned, John Bolton is “about as hawkish and interventionist as they come.”
    So much for everything he said during the campaign about foreign policy, but at least a lot of those people are getting their tariffs.

    – He appears on FoxNews. That’s all that matters.

  223. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 22, 2018 at 7:12 pm
    The jebots are upset now.
    But bolton was a bushie.

    – It never ceases to amaze just how incomprehensibly ignorant you are.

  224. Tina says:

    Cnn fake news head, alka Seltzer proclaims bolton a fox news contributor,

    Well, the fat baldy forgot to mention his full bio

    Before serving as the United States Permanent Representative to the United Nations (2005-2006), Ambassador Bolton was Undersecretary of State for Arms Control and International Security (2001-2005). Bolton also served in the administrations of President Ronald Reagan and President George H. W. Bush. His many accomplishments include the rescission of the UN’s 1975 “Zionism is racism” resolution, U.S. renunciation of the International Criminal Court and the establishment of the Proliferation Security Initiative. Ambassador Bolton is a Senior Fellow with the American Enterprise Institute and a Fox News

  225. Tina says:

    So. Trumo chise a bushie who contibuted t9 the bush news channel?

    And the jebots are still UPSET.

  226. Robbie says:

    Jake Tapper
    ?@jaketapper

    Daily Beast: ‘Lone DNC Hacker’ Guccifer 2.0 Slipped Up and Revealed He Was a Russian Intelligence Officer http://thebea.st/2G4pTbO?source=twitter&via=mobile

  227. Tina says:

    And CONCERNED.

  228. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Mcmasters planned his retirement in april.

    That is the transfer date.

  229. CG says:

    I’ve been a big Bolton fan in the past, so I will hope this is a good thing, although Trump is still the problem.

    It just speaks against absolutely everything Trumpists believed made Trump “different” though. Bolton is absolutely someone who would have worked for a President Jeb Bush, and the people here would have attacked him for that, but will pretend to love him now.

    As for Trump, it is clear he has no real core convictions, but is just looking for someone who will be “nice” to him, as apparently McMaster intimidated him too much.

  230. CG says:

    Rand Paul must be in the fetal position about now

  231. Tina says:

    Yup, mcmasters intimidated him even though mcmasters wrote that he is retiring in april.

  232. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    March 22, 2018 at 7:28 pm
    Rand Paul must be in the fetal position about now

    – Well, he spent yesterday at the Russian embassy sucking up to them.

  233. CG says:

    Ha, a week ago, we were told that McMaster leaving was “fake news” and now, it’s been planned all along.

  234. Tina says:

    Sarah Sanders
    @PressSec
    Just spoke to @POTUS and Gen. H.R. McMaster – contrary to reports they have a good working relationship and there are no changes at the NSC.

    Potus calls him a great friend,

    Mcmasters, i am retiring in april.

    Jebots still mad?

  235. Tina says:

    Evidently so, since bolton has been going in and out of the wh for weeks.

  236. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 22, 2018 at 7:29 pm
    Yup, mcmasters intimidated him even though mcmasters wrote that he is retiring in april.

    – I know you’re stupid so I’ll try and make this understandable even for you.

    Trump fired McMaster. He didn’t offer him a fourth star. There was no posting for a 3 star available.

    Thus McMaster had no choice but to retire.

  237. Tina says:

    Hilkary is in the fetal position.

    No further details, please.

  238. CG says:

    McMaster’s book will probably be interesting. Maybe more so than Tillerson’s.

    One thing is crystal clear, Bolton, policy wise, is a million percent better than Michael Flynn.

  239. Tina says:

    SO, he hires a bushie.

    And the jebots are upset?

    Wtf.

  240. CG says:

    The big question is if Trump will make him shave his mustache.

  241. CG says:

    I’m happy that Bolton is going to be in the White House. He probably won’t last much longer than McMaster did, but hopefully he can keep DJT as muzzled and handcuffed as possible.

    Everything that Bolton believes about foreign policy and American prestige is counter to what Trump campaigned on.

  242. Tina says:

    Flynn told obama hiw to win the war against isis and faulted the obumbler on it,

    They are both fine picks for nsa.

    Bolt. Is a bushy, so, if anybody is uoset, i am.

    But kniw, the jebots are mire uoset with bolton.

    Wtf.

  243. Tina says:

    Trump, an Iraq war critic, picks Bolton for National Security Adviser. Bolton, last year: “I still think the decision to overthrow Saddam was correct.” talkingpointsmemo.co…

    This is a legitimate concern with thr pick of bolton,

  244. CG says:

    Flynn is going to prison as is well-deserved.

    Yes, John Bolton is absolutely a Bush Republican. Hopefully, he won’t capitulate himself just to keep a job. He will know he is more qualified to be President than “the boss” and so will everyone in the building.

  245. Tina says:

    At least bolton still stands behind the decision, whereas powell, who,wants to curry fabor with the clintons, weaseled on it.

  246. Tina says:

    Why should flynn get to prison?

  247. Tina says:

    Trump should bring back flynn

    Had obama listened the jayveee team woukd have been destroyed years ago.

  248. Tina says:

    Looks like the leaks to maggie hack and the wo reporter will dry up though.

    Bolton will fire the never trumpers and the obama holdovers.

  249. Tina says:

    Iran deal to be dumped.

    Never trumpers will be upset.

    Mcmasters wanted to save it for some reason.

  250. CG says:

    Maybe Bolton will emerge as the unifying figure in the party to replace a disgraced Trump in 2020.

    The mustache could be an issue though…

  251. Tina says:

    Is faux news happy now?

    Hopefully, bolton des a better job getting accurate cia information,

    They really wrecked mute 43

  252. NYCmike says:

    “and the people here would have attacked him for that, but will pretend to love him now.”

    -More B*llsh*t from “CG”.

  253. Tina says:

    Clinton groupie is really full of sheot

  254. Robbie says:

    MAGA. Yay trade wars.

    The Associated Press
    @AP

    BREAKING: China raises tariffs on U.S. pork, aluminum and other goods in response to Trump tariff hikes.

  255. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 7:48 pm
    “and the people here would have attacked him for that, but will pretend to love him now.”

    -More B*llsh*t from “CG”.

    – Poor NYCmike. He gets awfully touchy when people point out he would have been screaming bloody murder if Obama had done these things. But with Trump, it’s “Must protect the Trump”.

  256. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Heh. You are so unhinged that you just ramble on and on.

    You do know that the comment by “CG” was about John Bolton, correct?

    IF Obama, or JEB!2016, had chosen John Bolton as NSA director, I would have been very happy.

  257. Robbie says:

    Does this get Trump a mulligan from Evangelical voters as well?

    Manu Raju
    ?@mkraju

    Former Playboy playmate Karen McDougal: “After we had been intimate, he tried to pay me, and I actually didn’t know how to take that,” she said. Asked by @andersoncooper if Trump tried to hand her money, McDougal said, “He did.”

  258. Wes says:

    Mikey says I dodged because I didn’t know enough about a particular bill to say I support or oppose it. I guess I was supposed to give a kneejerk “yes” or “no” when I knew nothing about thd bill.

  259. Tina says:

    Nick Short ?? Retweeted
    Vice President Mike Pence
    Vice President Mike Pence
    @VP
    Congratulations to new National Security Advisor John Bolton. @AmbJohnBolton is a highly respected American patriot who will bring decades of experience to our national security team. With him as Nat Sec Adv, @POTUS will continue to keep America strong and secure.
    4:56 PM · Mar 22, 2018
    417 Retweets
    1,507 Likes

  260. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 8:24 pm
    Robbie,

    Heh. You are so unhinged that you just ramble on and on.

    You do know that the comment by “CG” was about John Bolton, correct?

    IF Obama, or JEB!2016, had chosen John Bolton as NSA director, I would have been very happy.

    – Not sure if Jeb would have hired Bolton, but I know without a doubt you’ll support anyone Trump hires, even if they’re people who would have made you scream if Obama had chosen them.

  261. Tina says:

    Vice President Mike Pence
    @VP
    ·
    36m
    I will always be grateful to my friend Gen. H.R. McMaster for his service as @POTUS’ Nat Sec Adv & congratulate him on a job well done. He departs w/ our highest respect for his service to this Admin & his heroic service on & off the battlefield. Thank you H.R. and God bless.

  262. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    March 22, 2018 at 8:28 pm
    Mikey says I dodged because I didn’t know enough about a particular bill to say I support or oppose it. I guess I was supposed to give a kneejerk “yes” or “no” when I knew nothing about thd bill.

    – You were required to give a knee jerk reaction to a 2000 page bill since NYCmike made a knee jerk reaction based on something Mark Meadows tweeted.

  263. chicon says:

    267 – Robbie would have loved EVERY single thing JEB! did as President were he elected. He’d be here acting like he THINKS everyone here is acting. Classic case of projection.

  264. Wes says:

    You know I’m no evangelical, Robbie, nor am I a Trumpkin. I’ll be honest and say I don’t care if Trump tried to pay the same number of people Wilt Chamberlain supposedly slept with to have sex with them. The President is neither the Pope nor the Archbishop of Canterbury. We shouldn’t worry about his personal sex life.

  265. CG says:

    268. Trump trying to pay a contractor is extremely out of character for him.

  266. Wes says:

    For the record, I said the same thing about Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky. The President is not the head of a local parish.

  267. Robbie says:

    Julie Laumann #FBPE ?
    ?@Otpor17

    A crucial slip-up revealed that Guccifer 2.0, “lone hacker” who took credit for providing #WikiLeaks with the stolen DNC emails, was in fact a GRU officer.

    Mueller has taken over the Guccifer probe and brought the FBI agents who tracked him into his team

  268. Robbie says:

    Wes

    Your opinion is fine. You been consistent through the years on issues like this.

    I’m sick and tired of the hypocrisy so many here and, especially, in the Evangelical movement have shown.

    In 1998, this type of behavior was unacceptable to conservatives and Evangelicals. Remember all of the talk about returning honor and decency to the Oval Office?

    Now, those very same people, including prominent Evangelicals, say “who cares”. That’s hypocrisy that is totally about whether someone is a Republican or Democrat.

    I find that sickening.

  269. NYCmike says:

    “– Not sure if Jeb would have hired Bolton, but I know without a doubt you’ll support anyone Trump hires, even if they’re people who would have made you scream if Obama had chosen them.”

    -You are really NOT making any sense.

    If Obama had hired anybody that Trump hired, I would have been happy……for the simple reason that the people chosen by Trump are better.

    Please make a list of the people chosen by Trump, along with the corresponding person in the Obama administration…….then let us know which person you would have liked better.

    For me, no doubt, I would go with Trump’s picks.

  270. NYCmike says:

    Also, compare Dubya’s and Obama’s……I would go with Dubya’s people.

    This isn’t difficult, Robbie.

    Which Obama people would you rather have instead of the people selected by Trump?

  271. CG says:

    The VA Secretary is literally an Obama hire. Does he belong there?

  272. CG says:

    I’d rather have the Obama Commerce Secretaries than Wilbur Ross.

    Far more pro-free market

  273. Tina says:

    I rather have Hilary

    Jebot

  274. CG says:

    The HUD Secretaries would have at least been a lot more qualified, if overly left-wing.

  275. NYCmike says:

    “In 1998, this type of behavior was unacceptable to conservatives and Evangelicals. Remember all of the talk about returning honor and decency to the Oval Office?”

    -This is where Robbie shows how unhinged he truly is……NOT ONE of the stories with Trump and a woman is in the present day…….Trump, despite these YUGE NUMBER OF ACCUSATIONS, is somehow maintaining his discipline, in regards to sexual matters, since he entered the White House (and, for at least the year or so during the campaign, as well).

    Bubba, on the other hand, was doing his best FDR-JFK-impersonation.

  276. Tina says:

    I rather have Obama.

    Jebot

  277. CG says:

    I’d take Sasha and Malia over Don Jr and Eric and Ivanka and Jared.

    Perhaps a push between Bo and Barron.

  278. NYCmike says:

    “The HUD Secretaries would have at least been a lot more qualified, if overly left-wing.”

    -They were not more qualified. They were radicals who considered the poor to be pawns in their scheme to spread a marxist philosophy.

    That whole department should be shut down.

  279. chicon says:

    280 – interesting take. Stupid, but interesting….

    Evangelicals, a group to which I most certainly don’t belong, in 2016 supported the candidate that would best promote their agenda. Their choice was between a candidate who is personally immoral but largely supports their policy agenda, and a candidate who is personally immoral and who supports an agenda that is completely opposite of their policy agenda. Easy choice for them.

  280. Tina says:

    The Obama hud lost $500 b.

    Maybe it went with the $ t Iran?

  281. Robbie says:

    NYCmike, who exists to defend and protect Trump in this forum, now praises Trump for not having affairs while he’s been in the White House. Wow. What a great president. No wonder NYCmike defends Trump 24/7.

    Wake up, NYCmike. Conservatives in the 1990’s railed against Trump not just for Monica Lewinsky, but for Ginnifer Flowers and Paula Jones. Neither of those affairs happened while Clinton was president.

    Trust me. If this was Obama, you’d have a big problem with him. Trump just happens to have a R after his name so you’ll give him a pass.

  282. CG says:

    “If you will cheat on your wife … then why wouldn’t you cheat on your business partner, or why wouldn’t you cheat on anybody for that matter?”

    Rick Perry, 2012

  283. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    Do you have any opinion about the internal changes being made in Saudi Arabia, which may also lead to external changes in how they deal with Israel and the Palestinians?

    The more I read about the approach taken by Kushner with the new leader of the Saudis, an acquaintance of his, I am pleasantly surprised.

  284. Tina says:

    Jebbots are getting their arses kicked, day 3.

    First hinkley

    Then. Russians in Syria.

    No Obama hud.

  285. NYCmike says:

    ” now praises Trump for not having affairs while he’s been in the White House”

    -Pointing out some important differences between Bubba’s actions and Trump’s actions = ‘praise’.

    ANOTHER new dictionary PLEASE!

  286. CG says:

    I don’t really know a lot about it specifically. Hopefully, the Saudi people will get more of the rights and freedoms they deserve

  287. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 22, 2018 at 8:44 pm
    280 – interesting take. Stupid, but interesting….

    Evangelicals, a group to which I most certainly don’t belong, in 2016 supported the candidate that would best promote their agenda. Their choice was between a candidate who is personally immoral but largely supports their policy agenda, and a candidate who is personally immoral and who supports an agenda that is completely opposite of their policy agenda. Easy choice for them.

    – I would think stupid is believing the DNC murdered Seth Rich, but I digress.

    The 2016 election is over. It’s one thing to cast a vote for what you might consider the lesser of two evils, but it’s another to continue, day after day, to support things that go directly against long held moral beliefs. That’s what these supposedly devout Evangelicals are doing. They’re making a deal with the devil and they always go badly. They’ll find that out in November.

  288. CG says:

    So, at what point in his life did Donald Trump make amends or apologize for his past serial adultery.

    I know that John McCain, as a Presidential candidate, owned up to bad behavior in his first marriage and took full responsibility.

    Trump is someone who as a Presidential candidate has said he has never asked for or needed forgiveness from the Almighty or anyone else.

    Hush money though to perpetuate a lie? That’s another story I suppose.

  289. NYCmike says:

    “Hopefully, the Saudi people will get more of the rights and freedoms they deserve”

    -They are already.

    Maybe look into it, it may interest you….that is, if you have any desire to allow a good thought for Jared Kushner (and Trump) to enter your mind.

  290. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 8:48 pm
    ” now praises Trump for not having affairs while he’s been in the White House”

    -Pointing out some important differences between Bubba’s actions and Trump’s actions = ‘praise’.

    ANOTHER new dictionary PLEASE!

    – Please explain why the Evangelicals and conservatives were mad about Ginnifer Flowers and Paula Jones. Neither happened during his presidency.

  291. CG says:

    If internal changes are made for the better in Saudi Arabia, I doubt it will be mainly the work of Jared Kushner.

  292. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Evangelicals are supposed to drop support for Trump, who has pushed many items of their agenda, because they are finding out for the 100th time he was an immoral s.o.b. in his personal life?

    Is that your thesis?

    Why would they do that? Who would they support instead? The Democratic Party?

  293. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    March 22, 2018 at 8:51 pm
    So, at what point in his life did Donald Trump make amends or apologize for his past serial adultery.

    – Never. But Evangelical pastor Robert Jeffress, who says Satan helped create Catholcism, thinks Trump is now a born again Christian. Apparently, that happened on election night when Trump crossed 270 electoral votes.

  294. chicon says:

    300 – you always digress….it is one of your favorite avoidance tactics.

  295. CG says:

    Bill Kristol is judged for his parents having been socialists in the 1920s, but Trump cannot be held responsible for extra marital affairs that occurred a few years ago?

  296. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 8:53 pm
    Robbie,

    Evangelicals are supposed to drop support for Trump, who has pushed many items of their agenda, because they are finding out for the 100th time he was an immoral s.o.b. in his personal life?

    Is that your thesis?

    Why would they do that? Who would they support instead? The Democratic Party?

    – Evangelicals are supposed to say this kind of behavior is wrong. Not excuse it because it happened before he was elected or because he nominated Neil Gorsuch. It’s called integrity.

  297. Tina says:

    Is this only a six month deal?

    Ryano got rolled.

  298. NYCmike says:

    “If internal changes are made for the better in Saudi Arabia, I doubt it will be mainly the work of Jared Kushner.”

    -I didn’t say the internal changes are the work of Kushner.

    I did say that Kushner is an acquaintance of the new Saudi leader who is making internal changes, and there is a belief that it looks like external changes may be made as well, since the Saudi ruler feels he can trust Kushner (and by extension, Trump and the United States) to help him make things happen.

  299. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 22, 2018 at 8:54 pm
    300 – you always digress….it is one of your favorite avoidance tactics.

    – Then own up to falling for an embarrassing conspiracy theory. The truth shall set you free.

    But again, you claim to have been lurking here since 2004 so you should have been well aware of what I post for the last nearly 14 years or so.

  300. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    March 22, 2018 at 8:54 pm
    Bill Kristol is judged for his parents having been socialists in the 1920s, but Trump cannot be held responsible for extra marital affairs that occurred a few years ago?

    – We’re also not allowed to judge Trump on his father who took part in a KKK mob that attacked Catholics in the 1920’s.

  301. Tina says:

    Actually socialist said that his inner socialist made him go against the tax cuts.

    Tweeted this form the Lido Deck.

  302. CG says:

    Yeah, the Saudi leader is going to tell his people he is following the lead of Jared Kushner.

  303. NYCmike says:

    “– Evangelicals are supposed to say this kind of behavior is wrong.”

    -Hmmmmm, is that what our Roman Catholicism teaches us, that we sit as judges for men like Trump?

    I guess Robbie will throw the first stone!

  304. Tina says:

    Jebotts are attacking Kuschner and Ivanka.

    Gee wonder why?m

  305. NYCmike says:

    “Yeah, the Saudi leader is going to tell his people he is following the lead of Jared Kushner.”

    -You are pitiful!

    Hate-filled, sad-sack whiner.

  306. chicon says:

    309 – it goes like this….very difficult, but follow along…..

    They say this….

    Trump is personally immoral and will burn in Hades.
    Trump’s agenda has been at least as pro-Evangelical as any since Reagan.

  307. CG says:

    Maybe it has something to do with admirers of Jeb Bush being conservative Republicans, and Ivanka and Jared being confirmed liberals.

  308. CG says:

    The GWB Administration was far pro-Evangelical than Trump.

  309. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 8:58 pm
    “– Evangelicals are supposed to say this kind of behavior is wrong.”

    -Hmmmmm, is that what our Roman Catholicism teaches us, that we sit as judges for men like Trump?

    I guess Robbie will throw the first stone!

    – Now Mikey is suggesting it’s wrong to have beliefs and hold to them even if it goes against politicians you like.

    Ad by the way Mikey, Christ threw the money changers out of the temple. It’s sure seems like he was judging.

  310. NYCmike says:

    Bill Kristol isn’t judged because of his parents…..he is compared to them, and the similarities start to become apparent, that Bill Kristol is more like his socialist parents than the conservative he claims to be.

  311. CG says:

    I am declaring myself an honorary Catholic for the next 2:10 (and possibly OT)

  312. CG says:

    323. That might be the dumbest thing you have ever posted and there is a long list.

  313. NYCmike says:

    ” It’s sure seems like he was judging.”

    Let me fix this for Robbie….and let’s see if he can find the difference in how it is written:

    “It’s sure seems like HE was judging.”

  314. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 22, 2018 at 8:59 pm
    309 – it goes like this….very difficult, but follow along…..

    They say this….

    Trump is personally immoral and will burn in Hades.
    Trump’s agenda has been at least as pro-Evangelical as any since Reagan.

    – And Hitler restored German pride after the miserable end of the first world war.

    He may have gassed a lot of people and set the world on fire, but at least he built the autobon and made the trains run on time.

    See how stupid that sounds, chicon? Just as the deal with the devil you claim Evangelicals are making.

  315. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 22, 2018 at 8:58 pm
    Jebotts are attacking Kuschner and Ivanka.

    Gee wonder why?m

    – Because they’re liberal from NYC who are prominent in a supposedly conservative administration.

  316. NYCmike says:

    Oh my word……Robbie just compared Trump’s infidelities to Hitler’s actions……”CG”, you can have the last word on this one!

  317. CG says:

    This Loyola team is great!

  318. NYCmike says:

    “The GWB Administration was far pro-Evangelical than Trump.”

    🙂

    This guy is so far up the Bush family’s ass that even George H W Bush’s hands can’t reach him!

  319. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 9:05 pm
    Oh my word……Robbie just compared Trump’s infidelities to Hitler’s actions……”CG”, you can have the last word on this one!

    – Nice try, Mikey. I was mocking chicon’s stupid excuse as to why Evangelicals are ok with the rotten, immoral behavior they excuse.

  320. CG says:

    I get the point Robbie is making

  321. Tina says:

    Kristol has been wrong on Iraq, Syria, Iibya,

    An expert in nothing and he is no R.

  322. Tina says:

    What cabinet tires do Ivanka and Kuschner have?

  323. chicon says:

    312 – I know that until 2016 you were a poster who formulated fairly logical opinions and had posts that added to the discussion. I agreed sometimes, and disagreed sometimes. They turned out right sometimes, and wrong sometimes, just like anyone.

    Trump, though, has taken a toll on the quality of your posts, which is unfortunate. You’re now an emotion based poster who adds little to the conversation. You don’t even notice that most of the Trump Chumps you deride here often disagree with him, and especially his methods. You’re so emotional that ANY positive Trump statement makes someone an enemy. You make personal attacks now, where you rarely used to.

    For me, it’s unfortunate because the board needs balance, and you could have provided some balance.

  324. NYCmike says:

    “I get the point Robbie is making”

    -You allowed a comparison of Trump’s infidelities which as far as we know were mutually consented to, and the support of evangelicals, to Hitler’s actions with trains running on time while gassing millions of people, mainly Jews, which restored German pride.

    Got it.

  325. Robbie says:

    Karen McDougal is on CNN talking about how she had unprotected sex with Trump for 10 months after Barron was born. But since Trump picked Gorsuch, Evangelicals will say Trump’s behavior is no biggie. It would have been a biggie if Trump was a Democrat, but fortunately he claims to be a Republican so the behavior is totally cool for Evangelicals.

  326. CG says:

    How many times did Hillary Clinton get called “Hitlery” on here?

  327. CG says:

    Loyola Chicago is in the Elite 8!

    What a great story!

  328. chicon says:

    427 – a new non-sequitur of the day winner. Makes zero sense to English speakers….

  329. chicon says:

    Meant 327

  330. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 22, 2018 at 9:09 pm
    312 – I know that until 2016 you were a poster who formulated fairly logical opinions and had posts that added to the discussion. I agreed sometimes, and disagreed sometimes. They turned out right sometimes, and wrong sometimes, just like anyone.

    Trump, though, has taken a toll on the quality of your posts, which is unfortunate. You’re now an emotion based poster who adds little to the conversation. You don’t even notice that most of the Trump Chumps you deride here often disagree with him, and especially his methods. You’re so emotional that ANY positive Trump statement makes someone an enemy. You make personal attacks now, where you rarely used to.

    For me, it’s unfortunate because the board needs balance, and you could have provided some balance.

    – I find it unfortunate that you have brought conspiratorial views to the board like Obama used the British to spy on Trump or the NC murdered Seth Rich.

    We already had out one lunatic in Tina.

  331. Tina says:

    We went from muh mcmaster to muh ivanka, muh jared.

  332. chicon says:

    333 – somebody has to…..

  333. Tina says:

    Bad day dor the jebots.

    Day 3 and pummeled.

  334. Tina says:

    Infidelieties equals Hitler,

    Okee dokey said one loon to the illinois stooge.

  335. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 22, 2018 at 9:12 pm
    427 – a new non-sequitur of the day winner. Makes zero sense to English speakers….

    – It makes plenty of sense. But after “lurking” for 12 years, you starting posting almost exclusively to support Trump. It reminds me of Jonesy, but on a much larger scale. By the way, where did Jonesy go? He disappeared right before good ole Roy lost.

  336. NYCmike says:

    “How many times did Hillary Clinton get called “Hitlery” on here?”

    -Robbie,

    Whataboutism?

  337. chicon says:

    343 – another excellent non-sequitur. Along with a healthy dose of avoidance. Nice work.

  338. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    March 22, 2018 at 9:15 pm
    Infidelieties equals Hitler,

    Okee dokey said one loon to the illinois stooge.

    – Tinfoil, I wouldn’t expect you to understand the point I was making so just go back to posting links to Gateway Pundit or John Nolte.

  339. CG says:

    I cannot remember a time when Loyola would not have even been considered the 8th best college basketball team in the State of Illinois, and all the other teams usually suck as well.

  340. CG says:

    Quick story—

    I was driving home today, about two blocks from my home, and in the other lane was a Jeep with the license plates from my state that said simply “GOP.”

    My license plates happen to be GOP and then something else after it. The “GOP” was taken by somebody when I was 17 I know.

    So, I feel like it was quite a coincidence that I saw this car. I tried to get a look at the driver and he seemed like an older, rich guy. He also was driving and looking at his phone at the same time, so if he gets somebody killed, that will reflect greatly on Republicans.

  341. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 22, 2018 at 9:15 pm
    343 – another excellent non-sequitur. Along with a healthy dose of avoidance. Nice work.

    – I’m avoiding nothing. Your excuse of why Evangelicals accept Trump’s awful behavior was stupid and I used an over the top comparison to magnify just how stupid your excuse for Evangelicals was.

  342. chicon says:

    349 – that is one of Robbie’s favorite words! It is defined as “a hypocrisy on my part that I don’t want to, or can’t, explain away.”

  343. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 22, 2018 at 9:15 pm
    “How many times did Hillary Clinton get called “Hitlery” on here?”

    -Robbie,

    Whataboutism?

    – I have no idea and I certainly never did. But again, I used an over the top example to show how stupid chicon’s reason to explain Evangelicals support for Trump was.

  344. chicon says:

    353 – GOP Lite was not available?

  345. CG says:

    For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world and forfeits his soul? Or what shall a man give in return for his soul?

    Matthew 16:26

  346. NYCmike says:

    “He also was driving and looking at his phone at the same time, so if he gets somebody killed, that will reflect greatly on Republicans.”

    When I see this, I usually speed up, get in front of the car, and then slow down…….I drive an old car that could use a replacement….sue me!

  347. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 22, 2018 at 9:19 pm
    349 – that is one of Robbie’s favorite words! It is defined as “a hypocrisy on my part that I don’t want to, or can’t, explain away.”

    – LoL. You’re a real gem. You claim to have lurked here for 12 years, but then only began to post here right after Trump won. And predictably, you have spent the last 15 months shilling for Trump.

  348. CG says:

    I very much want to ditch my GOP license plates because somebody might confuse me with a Trump supporter and shoot me one day. I definitely have seen a lot more dirty looks and aggressiveness on the road towards me than I ever did before the Trump era.

    I’ll have to one day figure out how to get new plates and just how much they will cost rather than renewing every year.

  349. Tina says:

    So, maggie hack will now go back to 2unidentified intelligence sources aka obama chronies

  350. MichiganGuy says:

    Longtime Mississippi GOP leader Andy Taggart confirms he’s exploring a run for #MSSEN over fears Hyde-Smith can’t beat McDaniel, Espy.
    .
    https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/politics/2018/03/22/republican-andy-taggart-senate-run-cindy-hyde-smith/450161002/

  351. Tina says:

    Bolton is a leak plugger.

    Lots of obama, bush bots will be removed.

    Much like what the cos kelly did.

    This may be a good pick, if bolton is contained and does not resort to what some claim to be neocon thinking.

  352. Robbie says:

    MichiganGuy says:
    March 22, 2018 at 9:25 pm
    Longtime Mississippi GOP leader Andy Taggart confirms he’s exploring a run for #MSSEN over fears Hyde-Smith can’t beat McDaniel, Espy.
    .
    https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/politics/2018/03/22/republican-andy-taggart-senate-run-cindy-hyde-smith/450161002/

    – Awesome. So we’re going to Roy Moore that race and make Mike Espy senator. That will show them. MAGA!

  353. Tina says:

    Its the presidents nsa pick. He will not require confirmation.

    The next steps

    Rs in house must defund mulehead.

    All firepower needs to be directed to swampstein

  354. chicon says:

    354 – where did I say I agree with the rationale?

    It is the same rationale that allowed feminists to support your pal Clinton, despite the fact that he had an affair in the Oval Office with an intern – which is precisely what they spent the previous decades fighting against. Clinton was promoting policies that the feminists wanted, and they looked the other way. Just like evangelicals today.

    You asked how they could do so, and I told you. Never said I agreed, but you read that into my post, like the emotionally driven poster you’ve unfortunately devolved to.

  355. Tina says:

    If swampstein allowed mccabe to do an investigation into sessions, swampstein needs to be removed.

  356. chicon says:

    360 – another Pee Wee Herman level non-responsive comeback.

  357. CG says:

    When I went to vote on Tuesday, I had to tell the election judge, (who happened to be one of the Democrat judges)at least two times that I wanted the Republican ballot. He kept thinking I wanted the Democrat ballot. He probably was very surprised that anybody under 50 (and even under 40 for now)was going to vote Republican there (and maybe he also could tell I was Jewish)

    It used to be a proud moment to declare myself a Republican at the polling place on primary day, but this time I just sort of scribbled my signature and he said, “this doesn’t look like what we have on file for you but that’s ok”.

    I said it’s definitely me, and had already shown him my drivers license voluntarily, even though it wasn’t required. I wanted to say how much I thought it sucked to be a Republican these days but didn’t want to give him the satisfaction.

  358. Tina says:

    So, mukeheads last two witnesses

    Numberg, goes loony in tv.

    Then, the pedo witness flees the country.

  359. MichiganGuy says:

    Kansas Governor – Republican Primary:
    .
    Kobach 31%
    Colyer 18%
    Barnett 10%
    Selzer 4%
    Undecided 36%
    .
    JMC Analytics/KrisKobach1787 Internal Poll 3/15-17
    .
    http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2018/mar/21/kobach-picks-wichita-oilman-wink-hartman-be-his-ru/

  360. CG says:

    Maybe Taggart will run as a lesser pro-Trump option than Hyde-Smith, who has been pretty pro-Trump, and of course like her is a former Democrat.

  361. chicon says:

    370 – it might have been the Clinton ’92 tee shirt you were wearing….

  362. MichiganGuy says:

    Ohio Senate – Republican Primary:
    .

    Renacci 36% (+28)
    Gibbons 8%
    Eckhart 3%
    Ackison 3%
    Kiley 3%
    Undecided 47%

    OnMessageInc/JimRenacci Internal Poll 3/20
    .
    http://jimrenacci.com/poll-renacci-takes-massive-lead-ohio-primary/

  363. CG says:

    Say goodbye to the Kansas Governorship if Kobach wins the primary.

  364. Tina says:

    Where is the if report. The conspiracy loon said it was out.

  365. CG says:

    Definitely no Clinton shirt. I’m the person who went to school on Election Day ’92 wearing a homemade Bush/Quayle button.

  366. chicon says:

    378 – did you spell potato correctly? Whatever happened to Dan Quayle, btw?

  367. CG says:

    The article says that Taggart was Kasich’s campaign chairman in MS and says he is a regular critic of Trump. So Robbie, this should be our guy!

    So, maybe he can win a three-way primary against two Trumpists and be the strongest general election candidate there against Espy.

  368. Tina says:

    Unclear if rand filibusters ryano-piglosi.

  369. CG says:

    As long as McDaniels runs there will be a runoff there anyway for the general, based on the unusual rules, so at that point, it wouldn’t matter. Taggart would maybe stand a chance of being the one to go up against Espy. Either he or Hyde-Smith will likely beat Espy. McDaniel, maybe not.

  370. Tina says:

    Tomorrow, day 4,maybe the jebots can rebound.

    But 3 days of embarrassment at hhr.

  371. MichiganGuy says:

    Here is a nice interactive national map that shows county by county the population change from 2016/2017.
    .
    http://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/index.ssf/2018/03/cuyahoga_county_no_3_nationall.html#US_continue

  372. Tina says:

    No deal yet on ryano piglosi.

    Mitchie does not have the votes.

  373. MichiganGuy says:

    Knowing what you know now, do you think the United States should or should not have sent troops to ?ght in Iraq back in 2003?
    .
    Should 24%
    Should not 50%
    Not sure 26%
    .
    http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/tabsHPIraqwar20180315.pdf

  374. mnw says:

    376 CG

    Proof positive, not that there was ever much doubt, that YOU are the biggest phking idiot in the galaxy.

  375. MichiganGuy says:

    Tina, good to hear.

  376. mnw says:

    I will be back endlessly to throw CG’s stupid comment about Kobach back in his face.

  377. Tina says:

    Hey, it took jeb five times to get the rifht answer on iraq.

  378. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t know if I am for or against the bill. If Rand is against it I may be for it. I don’t care if Trump is for it or against it. I think for myself.

  379. NYCmike says:

    ” I wanted to say how much I thought it sucked to be a Republican these days but didn’t want to give him the satisfaction.”

    -For “CG”, he would have been much prouder, and it would have been much better to be a Republican in Illinois, if there was a President Hillary in office.

  380. Tina says:

    The republicans truly sucked when I voted for Hillary in 2016.

    Jebot

  381. CG says:

    It’s beyond obvious that Republicans in Illinois would be poised for a much better midterm than what’s going to happen this year.

    The same can be said in many states.

    mnw clearly stans for Kobach because he is the most anti-immigrant candidate in the race.

    I hope Colyer, the current Governor, wins the primary.

  382. Tina says:

    Gop idaho senator objects to ryano-piglosi.

  383. NYCmike says:

    “mnw clearly stans for Kobach because he is the most anti-immigrant candidate in the race.”

    -Is that wrong? Unacceptable? Immoral?

  384. Bitterlaw says:

    Sister Jean! Oh. The Loyola team, too!

  385. Bitterlaw says:

    Where is Jason? He’s a leftist according to NYC.

  386. CG says:

    Being anti-immigrant is an anti-American position.

    mnw does not want a single legal immigrant to be allowed to come here now. You just want a lot less.

  387. CG says:

    John Kasich has come out against the Omnibus.

    But when Trump signs it, as his OMB Director has said he will, NYC will proclaim him brilliant.

  388. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey – I am in favor of increasing legal immigration while working to stop illegal immigration.

  389. Bitterlaw says:

    Corey – Trump is not a Republican. He just needed a party to nominate him. I have no doubt that he would have run as a Dem in 2016 if Hillary did not run.

  390. CG says:

    They wouldn’t have been dumb enough to nominate him

  391. Bitterlaw says:

    They nominated Hillary. The bar was pretty low.

  392. jason says:

    It’s hilarious that all the AFL-CIO conservatives still think Trump is a conservative.

  393. Phil says:

    405

    Amen, bitter.

  394. jason says:

    hat’s hypocrisy that is totally about whether someone is a Republican or Democrat.

    I find that sickening.”

    What is sickening is an amoral scumbag like you pretending to take some sort of stand on moral issues.

    You could care less about what Trump or Roy Moore did or didn’t do, you lying POS.

    If Jeb Bush was accused of incest, you would be here saying it was ok because it was consensual.

    You would sell your mother into prostitution if you thought it somehow damaged Trump.

  395. jason says:

    CG says:
    March 22, 2018 at 10:46 pm

    They wouldn’t have been dumb enough to nominate him”

    LOL

    They were dumb enough to nominate Hillary, who when it comes to character makes Trump look good.

  396. Phil says:

    410

    Yep

  397. jason says:

    Where is Jason? He’s a leftist according to NYC.”

    I just love being so many things to so many people.

    La Raza pimp. Red China agent. Trump hater. Trump lover.

    I should retire, but who knows, maybe I can aspire to even more greatness.

  398. jason says:

    Being anti-immigrant is an anti-American position.”

    Being against illegal immigration is not anti-American at all, actually very patriotic.

    Being against LEGAL immigration IS xenophobic and anti-American.

  399. MichiganGuy says:

    So, let me get this straight. The dems are ok with U.S. taxpayers funding a wall for Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt, and Tunisia but, not for the U.S. wow. Unbelievable!
    .
    https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/976941920936185856

  400. jason says:

    Knowing what you know now, do you think the United States should or should not have sent troops to ?ght in Iraq back in 2003?
    .
    Should 24%
    Should not 50%
    Not sure 26%”

    Zzzzzz….

    “Knowing what you know now”

    What BS.

    Nobody had that luxury of knowing the future.

    Really stupid poll.

  401. jason says:

    In any event, I would still support the invasion even “with what I know now”.

  402. NYCmike says:

    “But when Trump signs it, as his OMB Director has said he will, NYC will proclaim him brilliant.”

    -Maybe the Senate will save me from saying something that only “CG” and Robbie say I would say.

  403. jason says:

    I wish somebody would primary fake Republican and fake conservative and fake fiscal conservative Rand Paul and rid us of the scourge of the Pauls once and for all.

    I am sure NYC will agree since he supports replacing sitting R senators with liberal Democrats.

    I think its worth the risk with Rand Paul.

  404. jason says:

    The tariffs and trade policies have already erased any doubt that Trump is not a conservative.

    Poor NYC is going to hang on through the omnibus bill and then the infrastructure bill.

    It will be fun to watch.

    The contortions and the hypocrisy will be epic.

  405. NYCmike says:

    “In any event, I would still support the invasion even “with what I know now”.”

    -I am with jason on this.

    The invasion was not the issue. The rules of engagement and worrying about the media-driven bad news was.

    The war should have been treated as a war. Destroy your enemy, occupy the country by force and treat Iraq like we have Germany and Japan for the last 60 years…..first, as our prisoners, 2nd, as our infants, 3rd, as our children, 4th, as our partners in western democratic-style society.

  406. NYCmike says:

    “The tariffs and trade policies have already erased any doubt that Trump is not a conservative.”

    -here we go again.

    If this is the test, Reagan and Bush fail as well.

  407. jason says:

    “But when Trump signs it, as his OMB Director has said he will, NYC will proclaim him brilliant.”

    Maybe he will say the “RINOS made him sign it”.

  408. NYCmike says:

    “Poor NYC is going to hang on through the omnibus bill and then the infrastructure bill.”

    -Hang on to what? That President Trump is better than President Hillary?

    No doubt.

    Hopefully, the Senate will do what I envisioned it would do if Trump was elected, stop him from leaning to the left.

  409. NYCmike says:

    Rand Paul, once again, doing what a conservative would do……..question everything!

  410. jason says:

    If this is the test, Reagan and Bush fail as well.”

    Here we go again.

    Apples and oranges.

    But I am glad the AFL-CIO conservatives like Reagan and Bush.

  411. jason says:

    and Paul, once again, doing what a conservative would do”

    Rand Paul was never a conservative so he wouldn’t know what “a conservative does”//

  412. MichiganGuy says:

    jason says:
    March 22, 2018 at 11:28 pm
    I wish somebody would primary fake Republican and fake conservative and fake fiscal conservative Rand Paul and rid us of the scourge of the Pauls once and for all.
    I am sure NYC will agree since he supports replacing sitting R senators with liberal Democrats.
    I think its worth the risk with Rand Paul.
    ——————————————————————————————————————-
    I disagree, Senator Paul has his faults but, we definitely need someone who will stand up to these budget busting bills that keep coming out of the Senate. Yes, at times it seems he is being hypocritical supporting some spending and not supporting other spending but, overall he is one of the few who is trying to cut the deficit.

  413. NYCmike says:

    “Rand Paul was never a conservative so he wouldn’t know what “a conservative does”//”

    -Oh right….he should just shut up and vote YAY for this latest monstrosity….THAT would be the conservative thing to do!

  414. NYCmike says:

    “I am sure NYC will agree since he supports replacing sitting R senators with liberal Democrats.”

    -Between jason, bitterlaw, “CG” and Robbie telling me all of the things I support or would say……

  415. CG says:

    You make it sorta easy at times.

  416. jason says:

    -Oh right….he should just shut up”

    Perfect, you can stop right there

  417. jason says:

    So let’s see what NYC says about Trump signing the “monstrosity”…

  418. jason says:

    stop him from leaning to the left.”

    We are making progress if NYC thinks Trump is leaning to the left.

    We will achieve true progress when NYC actually criticizes Trump for leaning to the left.

    Of course on tariffs he didn’t lean, he toppled over.

  419. jason says:

    So in the end money talks, huh, Eric….

    “Eric Reid is walking back his commitment to kneeling during the national anthem as a form of protest. Nearly two weeks into NFL free agency, Reid has encountered a barren market for his services despite being regarded as one of the best available safeties.

    Reid, 26, was one of the first teammates to begin kneeling alongside Colin Kaepernick during the 2016 preseason and continued kneeling even after the Player’s Coalition came to a $100 million agreement with the NFL in November.

    After starting all 13 games he was healthy enough to compete in for the San Francisco 49ers last season, Reid has yet to receive a contract offer as organizations have seemingly painted an arbitrary line in the sand on this particular issue.

    The icy reception from teams has compelled Reid to rethink his method of public activism. To improve his prospects of latching onto a team in free agency, Reid has decided to cease his anthem protests for the 2018 campaign and beyond, per ESPN.”

  420. jason says:

    The icy reception from teams has compelled Reid to rethink his method of public activism”

    Why? If its based on principle….why rethink?

  421. NYCmike says:

    I said about 5x just today Trump would be stupid to sign it.

    I apologize for not saying it in simple enough terms for the likes of you and “CG”.

  422. MichiganGuy says:

    To see how bad this omnibus bill is just look at the reactions of the liberals.
    .
    House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) called the bill “a tremendous victory for the American people,” one that keeps domestic agencies robustly funded while turning away Trump’s push for even more money for the border wall and immigration enforcement.
    .
    Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said as the minority party in Congress, “We feel good.” He added, “We produced a darn good bill.”
    .
    Daily Kos: Dear Resistance, Thank you for the passage of the 2018 Budget!
    .
    https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/3/22/1751349/-Dear-Resistance-Thank-you-for-the-passage-of-the-2018-Budget
    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    Why don’t we just let China take us over now since, we will never be able to pay them back what we owe them.

  423. Tina says:

    The Truth About John Bolton, The Iraq War and WMD Diplomacy
    By Fred Fleitz
    https://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2016/11/23/the-truth-about-john-bolton-the-iraq-war-and-wmd-diplomacy/

    Excerpt:

    The record shows John Bolton had little to do with promoting the Iraq war or war planning. Check out the State Department’s archive page of Bolton’s speeches, op-eds in 2002 and early 2003. You won’t find anything calling for military action against Iraq.

    Bolton was not involved in any decision-making or planning for the Iraq War because Secretary of State Colin Powell and Deputy Secretary Richard Armitage froze him out. As Bolton’s chief of staff, I witnessed this first hand. I remember well how State Department offices were told by Powell’s and Armitage’s staffs not to share any information with Bolton and his staff about Iraq war planning.”

    Bolton not involved in iraq war decision per this article.

  424. Tina says:

    So, ryano, piglosi, mitchie oassed the senate,

    Disgusting.

  425. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    ?
    @realDonaldTrump
    House Intelligence Committee votes to release final report. FINDINGS: (1) No evidence provided of Collusion between Trump Campaign & Russia. (2) The Obama Administrations Post election response was insufficient. (3) Clapper provided inconsistent testimony on media contacts.
    3:07 AM – Mar 23, 2018

    This will trigger the jebots/drats.

  426. Michael says:

    We will have to see but if Rasmussen stops being in the stalemate it has been the past week and a half & perhaps goes even further positive on Trump he might be looking at the best Job Approval Average he has seen since April of last year.

  427. Bitterlaw says:

    Michael – My son igoes to Temple University. He is studying at the business school. He has no interest in being a lawyer. I am relieved.

  428. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – We must support tariffs because they were a bad idea in the past. Don’t you get it?

  429. Michael says:

    Bitter that’s good. I got to watch Temple Basketball lose to Penn State about a week ago in the NIT. Pretty fun. It’s too bad Chambers has too many connections to Villanova’s squad, it’s probably a reason why we don’t play. Penn State is too dangerous of a game, beat PSU its normal victory, lose to them though and you get knocked down 2-3 Tourney spots lol.

    Wait Bitter what township are you in then?

  430. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    BREAKING: He won’t, but should!

    8:57a
    “Trump says he’s considering vetoing spending bill”

    (H/T: Market Watch)

  431. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #445
    Here is the full Trump tweet–disappointing to me.

    “I am considering a VETO of the Omnibus Spending Bill based on the fact that the 800,000 plus DACA recipients have been totally abandoned by the Democrats (not even mentioned in Bill) and the BORDER WALL, which is desperately needed for our National Defense, is not fully funded.”

    His major concern is DACA–Geez,Louise!!!

  432. chicon says:

    Trump threatens to veto the omnibus bill. One reason given is that the Dreamers are not addressed (the lack of substantial funding for the wall was another). Interesting trick by him on the dreamers, suggesting that the dems are not at all interested in solving the issue, just in possessing it…

  433. Bitterlaw says:

    Radnor.

  434. chicon says:

    Sheeple, imo DACA is a political play. The wall is his main concern.

  435. MichiganGuy says:

    Generic Congressional Ballot:
    .
    Democrats 44%
    Republicans 43%
    .
    McLaughlin & Associates poll 3/14-19
    .
    http://mclaughlinonline.com/2018/03/20/march-2018-national-survey-results/

  436. GPO says:

    I don’t say it lightly but these clowns on the PA Supreme Court should absolutely be impeached. This article puts it perfectly regardless of what the republican chief justice says

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/03/22/republicans-right-impeach-pennsylvanias-rogue-supreme-court-justices-gerrymandering/

  437. Bitterlaw says:

    Michael – PSU is good in 2 things – Football and wrestling. Basketball? No.

    Temple should be better in basketball because Philadelphia has a lot of talent. Villanova steals the best and then adds national stars. It really is amazing that a University with 6,500 undergrad students is a national power.

  438. MichiganGuy says:

    “This is an embarrassment to every taxpayer in America,” Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) told reporters. “This is a great dane-size whizz down the leg of every taxpayer in America.”

    “Everybody who participates in this process oughta put a bag on their head,” he added.

  439. NYCmike says:

    “They should stick to their principles, press on with their duty, and restore the balance of power ordained in the constitution.”

    -I agree.

  440. NYCmike says:

    “Sheeple, imo DACA is a political play. The wall is his main concern.”

    -Whatever the reason, VETO IT!

  441. Bitterlaw says:

    GPO – The main obstacle to impeachment is simple. Neither party wants to set off a cycle of impeachments every time the legislature disagrees with the state Supreme Court, I think this case warrants impeachment but it will not happen.

    To be honest, it is amazing that the GOP was able to draw the lines in a state where there are more Democrats to get a 13-5 GOP edge for so long. I was fine with it because it helped the GOP but the Dems were outraged. The Dems also hurt themselves because their voters were so concentrated. 3 Dem seats were in Philadelphia. The old 7th (my district) was a joke from the standpoint of how it really meandered all over the map.

  442. NYCmike says:

    ““This is a great dane-size whizz down the leg of every taxpayer in America.””

    -Nicely done!

  443. Bitterlaw says:

    I never pretend that the maps should be fair because nothing in politics is fair.

  444. NYCmike says:

    “Neither party wants to set off a cycle of impeachments”

    -Both parties are the same?

    Typical squish Republican.

  445. NYCmike says:

    “I never pretend that the maps should be fair because nothing in politics is fair.”

    -Did anyone say they were “fair”?

    They were legal.

    The new ones are legal, IF….did you see that word….IF drawn up by the legislature.

  446. MichiganGuy says:

    Insiders See Democratic House Gains of 30-45 seats
    by Stuart Rothenberg.
    .
    https://www.insideelections.com/news/article/insiders-see-democratic-house-gains-of-30-45-seats

  447. Bitterlaw says:

    I hope NYC will be able to survive the shock when President More Reagan than Reagan signs the bill.

    Of course, it won’t be his fault for signing it. It will be tg exclusive fault of Congress for passing it.

  448. NYCmike says:

    Did you read the link?

    “To that end, Republicans should say that the new map will stay in effect for the 2018 elections regardless of the results of impeachment. With filing deadlines already passed, this is the most sensible course of action anyway. Let the clash of ideas be over principle, not partisan advantage.”

  449. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC will spend several hours claiming that I support what the PA court did when I expressly stated that I do not agree with it. I would support impeaching them but it won’t matter if they are removed since the Governor would just appoint new lefties

  450. NYCmike says:

    “Of course, it won’t be his fault for signing it.”

    -Is this part of that book you said you were writing? Because this is pure fiction.

    It will be all Trump for signing, and all of the Congress for passing.

    Just as I said since Jan 20, 2017.

  451. jason says:

    Sheeple, imo DACA is a political play. The wall is his main concern”

    LOL

    “Political play” is great . “The wall is his main concern”…. okayyy if you say so.

    I love the convolutions made here to transform Trump into a conservative.

    The fact is Trump has traditionally been in favor of “touchback” immigration, deporting illegals but then letting them all back in (save for a small percentage of criminals) on an expedited system. And we know from there to actually skipping the deportation part is not very far.

    “I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal…. A lot of these people are helping us … and sometimes it’s jobs a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I want to move ’em out, and we’re going to move ’em back in and let them be legal.”

    Touchback immigration is not a new idea, in 2007 it only lost a Senate vote 53-45 and Jon Tester and Claire McCaskill voted for it along with 3 other Dems.

    In fact during the campaign, Eric Trump was frustrated with the MSM’s insistence that Trump was going to deport all illegals.

    ‘On Fox News on November 12, 2015 Trump’s son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:

    “The point isn’t just deporting them, it’s deporting them and letting them back in legally. He’s been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it, but it’s deporting them and letting them back legally.”

    So trying to somehow portray Trump as anti-DACA is ridiculous.

  452. NYCmike says:

    ” I would support impeaching them but it won’t matter if they are removed since the Governor would just appoint new lefties.”

    -And?

    You do know that there are 5 Dems on the Supreme Court, right?

    BUT, the vote was 4-3.

    That tells me something. Maybe you are too busy making up false things I will say instead of reading the link and thinking through your subsequent statements.

  453. NYCmike says:

    “I love the convolutions made here to transform Trump into a conservative.”

    -Sheeple did no such thing, in my reading of his comment.

    How in the world did you take that leap?

  454. Bitterlaw says:

    Principle? Zzzzzzzzzz. Voters are going to pay attention to a map fight? Go for it. SCOTUS should have stopped it but did not want to get involved. Maybe it will for the 2020 election or may just kick it down the road since there will be a new map following the 2020 census.

  455. jason says:

    Poor Trump, “forced” by Congress to sign the bill.

    It’s heartbreaking, I tell you.

  456. NYCmike says:

    “‘On Fox News on November 12, 2015 Trump’s son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:”

    -Oh Lord! This is what jason bases his reasoning on…….jeez Louise.

  457. jason says:

    Bitter, NYC has just made Trump into the “victim” of the evil bill Congress “writes”.

    I knew the convolutions would be epic….

  458. NYCmike says:

    Got it.

    Bitterlaw, and I will assume jason, believe it is zzzzzzzzz to impeach the judges for usurping their power……..BUT, I am sure they will tell you they are true conservative Republicans who believe in checks and balances!

  459. jason says:

    -Oh Lord! This is what jason bases his reasoning on…….jeez Louise.”

    No I actually based on Trump’s QUOTE

    July 30, 2015

    “I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal…. A lot of these people are helping us … and sometimes it’s jobs a citizen of the United States doesn’t want to do. I want to move ’em out, and we’re going to move ’em back in and let them be legal.”

    GFY

  460. NYCmike says:

    Please show where I said Trump is a victim or is being forced…..don’t lie as usual.

    Trump has a choice if he gets the bill. Sign. Or Veto (not Vito).

    He holds the cards, and decides which to play. I NEVER said otherwise.

    DON’T LIE.

  461. NYCmike says:

    More Trump quotes…….a modern day Ramses “So it is written, so it is done!”.

  462. NYCmike says:

    “GFY”

    -Yup. You are losing the argument. Right to the usual epithets.

  463. jason says:

    I would vote to impeach the PA SCOTUS clowns, certainly.

  464. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC wants an endless cycle of judicial impeachment in PA? Got it. When the court switches back to GOP control at some point, and it will, I am sure he will support the a Dems when they try to impeach Republican judges. Wait? He won’t?

  465. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC wants an endless cycle of judicial impeachment in PA? Got it. When the court switches back to GOP control at some point, and it will, I am sure he will support the a Dems when they try to impeach Republican judges. Wait? He won’t? Why not?

  466. jason says:

    “GFY”

    -Yup. You are losing the argument. Right to the usual epithets.”

    You were the one lying and got caught. So you deserve the GFY.

    ‘On Fox News on November 12, 2015 Trump’s son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:”

    -Oh Lord! This is what jason bases his reasoning on…….jeez Louise.”

    Blatant lie. That was the second quote to illustrate “frustration with the media”

    To illustrate Trump’s position, I offered his own words.

    GFY.

  467. Bitterlaw says:

    I would vote to impeach but I know the cycle it will start.

  468. NYCmike says:

    “I would vote to impeach the PA SCOTUS clowns, certainly.”

    -Translation: I want to tell Bitterlaw he is a p*ssy, but as an A-Hole, that would be much too close for comfort.

  469. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump’s own words are not to be used against Trump. Don’t you realize that he is more Reagan than Reagan?

  470. NYCmike says:

    What did I lie about?

    I didn’t question that he made those statements at all. I am sure that your copy-and-paste jobs are real quotes.

    I am questioning why you would use them to back up your reasoning, when I am sure there can be found a quote showing the opposite.

  471. NYCmike says:

    “I would vote to impeach but I know the cycle it will start.”

    -And this is a problem? The cycle will start, and then maybe it will end, or continue……hopefully, we aren’t going anywhere too soon…….

  472. Bitterlaw says:

    To sum up before NYC starts lying:

    1. The old PA map was a joke but it was legal and I supported it because it helped the GOP.

    2. The PA judges who tossed it should be impeached.

    3. Impeachment will start a cycle of impeachments in the future and I am not happy about it.

    Start spinning, NYC, but this is what I really said.

  473. NYCmike says:

    “Trump’s own words are not to be used against Trump.”

    -They were Eric Trump’s words, by the way.

  474. MichiganGuy says:

    Massachusetts
    .
    Gov. Charlie Baker (R)
    .
    Favorable 66%
    Unfavorable 14%
    .
    Governors Race:
    .
    Baker 60%
    Gonzales 21%
    .
    Baker 59%
    Massie 22%
    .
    Baker 58%
    Warren 24%
    .
    MassINC Polling Group
    .
    http://www.wbur.org/news/2018/03/23/baker-poll-massie-gonzalez-warren
    ——————————————————————————————————————–
    Who wants to bet Dave gives us a new thread for this poll. 🙂

  475. jason says:

    More Trump quotes……”

    Horrors..

    How unfair.

  476. MichiganGuy says:

    Oops, never mind he’s in Maryland not Mass Duh.

  477. NYCmike says:

    “Start spinning, NYC, but this is what I really said.”

    -Yup, that is what you said.

    #3 sums you up perfectly…..it is a fight worth having, but you are SCARED of what might happen in the future, so you would rather be a squish.

  478. jason says:

    when I am sure there can be found a quote showing the opposite.”

    Show me a subsequent quote where he disavows the touchback immigration theory or GFY.

  479. NYCmike says:

    As seen on Instapundit:

    IT’S ALMOST LIKE THEY WANT TO LOSE THE CONGRESS: “Congressional Republicans are jeopardizing the Second Amendment rights of 4.2 million senior citizens. At the same time, they have voted to funnel tens of millions of dollars to gun control organizations and support other actions that Democrats will love.”

  480. NYCmike says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/22/second-amendment-rights-more-than-4-million-americans-are-at-risk-thanks-to-republicans-in-congress.html

    “Unfortunately, the spending bill passed Thursday allows the ban to be reinstituted because it reauthorizes the 2007 National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) Improvement Amendments Act. This act allowed government agencies, not just the courts, to determine if someone is mentally incompetent to buy or possess a gun.”

  481. NYCmike says:

    The bill is worse than I thought……

  482. Bitterlaw says:

    A squish would not support impeachment in number 2. You just can’t help yourself.

  483. jason says:

    “Trump’s own words are not to be used against Trump.”

    -They were Eric Trump’s words, by the way.”

    Stop digging. And lying.

    I specifically indicated which was Eric Trump’s quote and which one was Donald Trump.

    “On Fox News on November 12, 2015 Trump’s son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:”

  484. NYCmike says:

    Surprised there wasn’t a peep from the NRA……

  485. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC supports the AFL-CIO’s trade policy but I am a squish? I love this place.

  486. NYCmike says:

    Here is what you posted:

    “‘On Fox News on November 12, 2015 Trump’s son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:

    “The point isn’t just deporting them, it’s deporting them and letting them back in legally. He’s been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it, but it’s deporting them and letting them back legally.””

  487. NYCmike says:

    Eric Trump stated about his Dad, Donald Trump…”He’s been so clear about that and”

  488. Bitterlaw says:

    The only thing more dangerous than me owning a gun would be my 90 year old dad owning a gun.

  489. Bitterlaw says:

    But I support his right to own one.

  490. NYCmike says:

    “NYC supports the AFL-CIO’s trade policy but I am a squish? I love this place.”

    -No I don’t. I stated many times I disagree with the tariffs.

    You saying I support them was made up in your own head.

  491. NYCmike says:

    My issue about tariffs was jason using them to “prove” that Trump is not a conservative.

    I don’t think it is a valid piece of evidence to prove what he says it does, unless he will use that same proof against Dubya Bush and Reagan.

    BUT, consistency would be too much to ask for.

  492. NYCmike says:

    More importantly, “CG”, Robbie, Wes, jason and Bitterlaw have still NOT expressed their desire to see this bill SIGNED or VETOED by President Trump…..what say you squishes?

    Still need more time?

  493. NYCmike says:

    MichiganGuy says:
    March 23, 2018 at 9:26 am

    “This is an embarrassment to every taxpayer in America,” Sen. John Kennedy (R-La.) told reporters. “This is a great dane-size whizz down the leg of every taxpayer in America.”

    “Everybody who participates in this process oughta put a bag on their head,” he added.

  494. NYCmike says:

    ALL ON TRUMP NOW.

    But the squishes still haven’t taken a position on it…..

  495. GPO says:

    Bitterlaw says:

    March 23, 2018 at 9:28 am

    GPO – The main obstacle to impeachment is simple. Neither party wants to set off a cycle of impeachments every time the legislature disagrees with the state Supreme Court, I think this case warrants impeachment but it will not happen

    I agree with your assessment

    However This is banana republic stuff- if not stopped now they will just continue to make things up out of thin air

  496. NYCmike says:

    Will the 5 squishes use the old excuse “Time is running out, a crisis must be averted!” to say that Trump should SIGN?

    I say VETO IT, make these Congressional pigs come back and work on each piece line by line.

  497. Waingro says:

    Not really the reason I want this disastrous spending bill vetoed on the spot, but I’ll take it. Shut it down, Mr. President!

  498. Waingro says:

    “I say VETO IT, make these Congressional pigs come back and work on each piece line by line.”

    Agreed. Start with a completely separate appropriation bill that full funds the military. Let the Dems and usual suspect “Republicans” go on record in voting that down.

    And, if need be, nuke the thing through. It’s time. Even McCain and Collins et. al. won’t vote no on an up and down vote on the military.

    Then without the 60 vote threshold, go through every appropriation. Piece by piece without feet to fire.

  499. jason says:

    My issue about tariffs was jason using them ..”

    LOL

  500. jason says:

    Let’s see if NYC will call Trump a squish if he signs the bill.

  501. jason says:

    Bitter, NYC doesn’t support Trump’s tariffs.

    The AFL-CIO conservatives are crushed.

  502. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump is More Reagan than Reagan so NYC will just have to accept it when Trump signs off on the bill.

  503. mnw says:

    Ambassador Bolton it is! Ahhhh! Was it good for you too, liberals?

  504. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC claims he does not support the tariff but keeps finding reasons to support it if Trumpmimposes them.

  505. Michael says:

    Radnor has gotten Republican recently

  506. jason says:

    I haven’t really studied the bill, but if Rand Paul is against it really makes it hard for me to oppose it.

    On the other hand if Kennedy is against it….

    Maybe I will just trust Trump to do the right thing, I am sure NYC will agree with that.

  507. jason says:

    Radnor has gotten Republican recently”

    Kewl….

    As in he “has gotten religion recently”?

  508. chicon says:

    Trump campaigned on the wall. He wants the wall (or more precisely, he needs to go down fighting if it doesn’t happen). DACA is the trade chip for the wall. Trump is trying to keep the heat on the dems regarding DACA to get what he wants – the wall.

  509. jason says:

    I like Bolton.

    He will keep Trump’s isolationist foreign policy tendencies in check.

    If he starts a nuclear war, well, I am outside the initial blast radius of DC and Philly although there is a huge naval base in Mechanicsburg.

  510. chicon says:

    Chuck and Nancy seem pretty happy with the deal.

    Robbie told us yesterday that keeping the government open is the only thing that matters – the contents of the bill are irrelevant.

    Seems he’s not alone in this thought.

  511. Bitterlaw says:

    Michael – The Dems took over the School Board in November. Republicans are not doing well in Radnor.

  512. NYCmike says:

    Waingro is right on! Make them vote on everything so we know where everyone stands!!

  513. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason has enough apple butter and canned scrapple to survive for years. If eating scrapple and apple butter is for years is surviving.

  514. Bitterlaw says:

    Tell a story! Send a message!

  515. Cash Cow TM says:

    Honk.

    Been doing a lot of thinking…ruminating…chewing things over.

    One thing I keep thinking about is the word “choir”.

    We pronounce it as “quior”…with I before O.
    but in the word “CHOIR” we put the O before I!

    WE NEED TO FIX IT!

    Why are high school students not doing protests and class walkouts over this travesty?

  516. jason says:

    Trump is trying to keep the heat on the dems regarding DACA to get what he wants – the wall.”

    I have always supported this position as long as you replace “wall” by “border security”.

    I think most people view the wall not as an end in itself but as a tool for the bigger goal of border security.

    A physical wall along the entire border is not going to happen. If Trump would accept a virtual wall and call it a victory he would be smarter than if he goes all or nothing on a physical wall.

    The fact is the wall is not that popular politically anyway among the general population. Border security however, IS a popular concept.

    Trump should marry the two and call it a win.

  517. jason says:

    Jason has enough apple butter and canned scrapple to survive for years. If eating scrapple and apple butter is for years is surviving.”

    It could be supplemented with raccoon, possum, squirrel and other varmint meat.

  518. jason says:

    so we know where everyone stands!!”

    Somehow deadenders always think this is actually more important than governing.

    Hilarious.

    SEND A MESSAGE!

  519. jason says:

    Dang, I have been saying koyer for choir for decades….so its quior?

    Who knew?

    Of course, my English teacher back in the Andes learned the language watching reruns of My Three Sons.

  520. MichiganGuy says:

    CNBC Director Arrested for Felony After 18-Year-Old Nanny’s Friend Finds Rigged Tissue Box in Bathroom.
    .
    https://www.westernjournal.com/cnbc-director-arrested-for-felony-after-18-year-old-nannys-friend-finds-rigged-tissue-box-in-bathroom/

  521. jason says:

    Bitter, you can bring your family here if there is a nuclear war.

    I won’t give out the address because I can’t handle a big crowd but when you get to the fork in the road take it, and remember to make a left at the third Amish barn to the right.

    Cash Cow is welcome too.

  522. CG says:

    Bob Corker is imploring Trump to veto, but when Trump signs it, NYC will declare that Trump is brilliant and Corker was wrong.

  523. jason says:

    If you want to do something illicit the only way to escape cameras is to go deep into the woods, but you still have to avoid the game trail cameras and the eagles and spotted owls wearing collars with cameras.

    And when setting up cameras to spy on people, beware of the cameras set up to spy on you setting up yours.

  524. CG says:

    RIP Zell Miller

  525. jason says:

    Remember when Obama signed the Iran deal, it was Corker’s fault.

    So when Trump signs the Omnibus bill it will be Corker’s fault too.

    Moral of the story: elections don’t have consequences.

  526. jason says:

    His epitaph should read:

    “RIP, the last moderate Democrat”

  527. Bitterlaw says:

    Wait. Is that the third barn on an Amish farm OR the third barn constructed by the Amish even if it is not on an Amish farm?

  528. gameboy says:

    Trump better not sign the Omnibus bill……that would defeat the who purpose of him being elected. He is supposed to fight the swamp, not join it. He will become Robbie’s hero if he signs the thing.

  529. jason says:

    Bitter, remember the secret A-hole code where the third word is always opposite in meaning.

  530. jason says:

    that would defeat the who purpose of him being elected.”

    Hmmmm….

    So you think Trump is a fiscal conservative?

  531. jason says:

    I think the whole purpose of getting Trump elected was so Hillary would not be President.

    That was a monumental achievement.

    But let’s not get too ambitious.

  532. CG says:

    He’ll sign it.

    There may be valid reasons to not sign it, but if he doesn’t, the government shuts down tonight, and both Democrats and Republicans in Congress will blame him. He wouldn’t like that.

  533. jason says:

    Breaking news:

    Paddock gave “no indication” he was going to murder 58 people when he checked into the Mandalay casino, according to police.

    AS VEGAS (AP)
    Footage provided by MGM Resorts International shows Stephen Paddock interacting with Mandalay Bay resort staff members, wheeling suitcases toward elevators and pulling his Dodge Caravan into the hotel valet.

    It offers no outward sign that Paddock would carry out the Oct. 1 shooting that killed 58 people and injured hundreds at an outdoor concert on the Las Vegas Strip.”

    It goes on to say that hotel employees were unaware of what was in his suitcases.

    Amazing.

    You would think he would have said “hey, take those suitcases full of rifles and ammo up to my room will ya, I have to shoot up the concert outside soon”.

  534. Bitterlaw says:

    Cash Cow – Tell Walt that he needs to put the antenna on the roof and watch the Villanova-WV game tonight.

  535. Bitterlaw says:

    Mass killers used to have more integrity. All this sneaking around is unseemly.

  536. jason says:

    I want him to sign just so I can see NYC and the AFL-CIO conservatives spin it.

    Will be highly entertaining.

    Ok, so I don’t have a life, sue me.

  537. gameboy says:

    “So you think Trump is a fiscal conservative?”…Certainly wouldn’t be if he signs that excuse for a bill. I hope he has the guts to veto the thing.

  538. chicon says:

    549 – suitcases in hotels?!?! My, my….

  539. Robbie says:

    Trump is absolutely brilliant. In a midterm election year, he has found a way to totally unite Democrats and split the Republican Party right down the middle. That should really pay dividends on election day if Trump’s goal is to elect Democrats.

    The omnibus bill is a perfect example. Regardless of what you think of the bill, Trump cut a deal with Ryan and McConnell. Then at the first sign of unhappiness from FoxNews, he issues a veto threat. Had he vetoed to bill, how could Ryan and McConnell have ever trusted Trump again? Now, it appears Trump will sign the bill even though he stoked the unrelenting anger of the hard core base.

    Of course, the Trump cultists will claim Dear Leader is playing an amazing game of 87 dimensional chess.

  540. Robbie says:

    An evil Republican strategist.

    Rory Cooper
    ?@rorycooper

    Love the framing of “Trump to sign bill despite veto threat” as if this is a calculated maneuver and not just a clumsy Fox & Friends induced mess.

  541. Bitterlaw says:

    At least it wasn’t carnage. Right, Sheeple?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

  542. chicon says:

    Well, that clinches it. I want him to veto so I can read the remnants of Robbie’s head explode.

  543. Bitterlaw says:

    I want Trump to sign it so I can watch NYC flip out.

    I want Trump to veto it so I can watch Robbie flip out.

    So many good outcomes are possible.

  544. Mr.Vito says:

    I haven’t been following things lately. I see there is some spending bill issue… >50% chance he vetoes it because Reagan did.

  545. Robbie says:

    LOL!

    Shimon Prokupecz
    ?@ShimonPro

    CNN: Joseph diGenova’s role, as well as that of his wife and law partner, Victoria Toensing who is also in discussions about joining the legal team, are in flux. After meeting on Thursday, Trump is not convinced they are right for the legal jobs. No one has been officially hired

  546. Mr.Vito says:

    Or he will say he signed it for the military… that Reagan did too.

  547. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 23, 2018 at 1:20 pm
    Well, that clinches it. I want him to veto so I can read the remnants of Robbie’s head explode.

    – I see chiclown, who claims to have been a lurker since 2004, has arrived to shill for the cult of Trump today.

  548. NYCmike says:

    I am still waiting for the 5 aforementioned “men”, “CG”, Robbie, Wes, jason, and Bitterlaw, to actually give their reasons for hoping Trump votes FOR or AGAINST this terrible bill.

    I am on record as being AGAINST it. Trump would be foolish to sign this, just as Congressional Republicans were foolish to pass it.

    VETO this, and bring the pigs back to the D.C. slophouse to work thru Easter.

  549. Mr.Vito says:

    Have the republicans done anything since the tax bill? Haven’t heard anything…

  550. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 23, 2018 at 1:32 pm
    Or he will say he signed it for the military… that Reagan did too.

    – More comparisons of Trump and Reagan. Ugh.

    What Trump and the FoxNews clown car fail to realize is Trump’s veto threat would have mattered had he made it before the Congress had already passed the bill and left for a two week recess. His veto threat was empty, but also dumb.

  551. Redmen4ever says:

    Marist Poll: 5 point advantage for Ds in Generic Congressional.

    NOT A WAVE.

    With a big booming economy, we could soon be looking at the Rs having the advantage in the Generic Congressional. But, I’m hoping for a PPP poll saying Democrats have a chance in Utah and Wyoming.

  552. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 23, 2018 at 1:35 pm
    Have the republicans done anything since the tax bill? Haven’t heard anything…

    – No. Other than a Dodd/Frank fix, the party is too fractured to do any other substantive work this year. Legislating is over for 2018.

  553. NYCmike says:

    A military spending bill should be done separately, as someone else suggested earlier.

    Again, let’s see where each member stands on military budget issues, as well as each individual item in the bill.

    What’s the worst that could happen? Gridlock? A shutdown?

    Oooooohhhhhhh, how terrible!!

  554. Mr.Vito says:

    “More comparisons of Trump and Reagan. Ugh.”

    Was I right? No comparison was made… I gave a motive.

  555. Robbie says:

    Redmen4ever says:
    March 23, 2018 at 1:37 pm
    Marist Poll: 5 point advantage for Ds in Generic Congressional.
    NOT A WAVE.

    – Republicans had a 5 point lead in the final RCP average in 2014. It produced a wave. Republicans can’t even get out of the 30 on average. That’s a terrible number.

  556. CG says:

    So, he signed it after all after saying he wanted to veto it. The “swamp” must have felt too safe and he “choked like a dog.”

    I guess he had “no guts.” Sad!

  557. NYCmike says:

    “– No. Other than a Dodd/Frank fix, the party is too fractured to do any other substantive work this year. Legislating is over for 2018.”

    -Unless Trump VETOES….which would also pop the Stormy Daniels balloon lifting off on Sunday night on 60 Minutes.

    That would be a site to behold – would the media (and Robbie) concentrate on Stormy Daniels or any the actual governance of the country? 🙂

  558. Mr.Vito says:

    Start a movement that requires military, domestic, and foreign spending bills to be passed separately in that order, then.

  559. CG says:

    You guys are behind the times. He already signed it. Basically said Mattis made him.

  560. NYCmike says:

    Signed it? And “CG” is happy about it?

  561. MichiganGuy says:

    News conference at the White House concerning the Omnibus Spending Bill. 1:00 P.M.

  562. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 23, 2018 at 1:34 pm
    I am still waiting for the 5 aforementioned “men”, “CG”, Robbie, Wes, jason, and Bitterlaw, to actually give their reasons for hoping Trump votes FOR or AGAINST this terrible bill.
    I am on record as being AGAINST it. Trump would be foolish to sign this, just as Congressional Republicans were foolish to pass it.
    VETO this, and bring the pigs back to the D.C. slophouse to work thru Easter.

    – Talk about a meltdown. Slophouse. Pigs.

    NYCmike, I told you yesterday he should sign it because I don’t favor government shutdowns as you do.

    Your Tea Party dream was never going to be achieved with a life long NYC Democrat as president.

  563. CG says:

    The bill sucks and he sucks for signing it.

    Do you not agree?

    (somehow I know you now won’t)

  564. NYCmike says:

    Terrible.

    NOW, Robbie actually has some ammunition for his doomsday scenario.

  565. Mr.Vito says:

    “You guys are behind the times. He already signed it. Basically said Mattis made him.”

    Ok… so he chose ‘did it for the military’.

  566. CG says:

    The news conference was underway as I was walking back from lunch. He signed it and said how wonderful for the military it is and how much Mattis told him it was needed so he had to do it.

  567. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    You don’t read other comments, do you?

    I have been saying the last 2 days it should be vetoed.

    Both Trump and the Republican Congress should be ashamed.

    They deserve to lose their power.

  568. Mr.Vito says:

    “News conference at the White House concerning the Omnibus Spending Bill. 1:00 P.M.”

    Is it over? Is there a feed on Foxnews.com?

  569. CG says:

    So, basically he’s a Veto Tease.

    or a Vito Tease?

  570. NYCmike says:

    “Ok… so he chose ‘did it for the military’.”

    -Bad decision.

  571. MichiganGuy says:

    Didn’t mean to post that copy and paste wrong thing. Lol

  572. CG says:

    “They deserve to lose their power.”

    Are you joining my call for Trump to resign today?

  573. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 23, 2018 at 1:40 pm
    Start a movement that requires military, domestic, and foreign spending bills to be passed separately in that order, then.

    – They are already supposed to be done separately through the appropriations process, but partisanship has prevented that for almost 20 years.

  574. Bitterlaw says:

    I abstain on the bill. I could change that to opposing it if I cared.

  575. Mr.Vito says:

    oh well…

    in more important news, my wife signed us up to watch the class pets over spring break… which really means I will be watching them…

    and her new puppy… and our daughter… and our two boxers… and the two cats… and the fish.

    Sounds great, eh?

  576. jason says:

    “hoping Trump votes FOR or AGAINST this terrible bill.”

    I was hoping he would sign it so I could read how you will spin it.

    Can we start with “Trump just signed” poor victim, evil Congress wrote it?

  577. CG says:

    If Republicans in Congress “lose power” that means the Democrats in Congress will “gain power.” That’s how our system works, as NYC constantly reminds us.

    A lot more Democrats voted for the Omnibus that Trump signed than Republicans did. Senators Corker, Flake, and Sasse, the guys that Trumpists call Mullahs and socialists here sure voted against it.

    So, be careful what you wish you.

  578. Mr.Vito says:

    “They are already supposed to be done separately…”

    But apparently not required… or are they doing something unconstitutional?

  579. Robbie says:

    The tears taste so delicious. Maybe if she hadn’t fallen for the empty words of a charlatan conman, she wouldn’t be so upset.

    Ann Coulter
    ?@AnnCoulter

    CONGRATULATIONS, PRESIDENT SCHUMER!

  580. jason says:

    I like pets, there could be worse things to do.

    I will be here laughing at the AFL-CIO conservatives.

  581. CG says:

    If some are disappointed with this singing but are unwilling to join me in calling for Trump to resign, I hope you can at least consider acting on the principle you claim to feel over this bill and support Jeff Flake’s primary campaign in 2020.

  582. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    March 23, 2018 at 1:47 pm
    “They are already supposed to be done separately…”
    But apparently not required… or are they doing something unconstitutional?

    – Not required, but was the way it had been done for ages.

  583. jason says:

    So NOW can we put to bed the idea that Trump is a fiscal conservative?

    Baby steps, baby steps.

  584. Mr.Vito says:

    “So, basically he’s a Veto Tease.

    or a Vito Tease?”

    Nice.

    The first one, though. Bitter basically summed up my feelings on it.

  585. NYCmike says:

    “So, be careful what you wish you.”

    -I wished for a congressional leadership that would act in a conservative fashion. I wished for a congressional leadership that would hinder the ability of a President Trump to make bad deals with Democrats. I wished for President Trump to VETO this bill.

    0-3.

    “CG” and Robbie happy.

  586. CG says:

    “But Gorsuch! But Gorsuch!”

    “But Hillary would have signed the same bill… in a bikini!”

  587. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    How is that a bill passed by Congress and signed by Trump leads you to only call for Trump to resign?

    How do you get past the actions of Congress, who have the main power concerning legislation?

  588. CG says:

    602. Sound like Jeff Flake’s your man for 2020.

    And if that doesn’t work out in the primary, Kasich was adamantly opposed to the bill as well.

  589. jason says:

    Ok, now Wobbie the amoral scumbag can go back to talking about Stormy and Roy Moore.

  590. jason says:

    or a Vito Tease?”

    Nice.”

    No fabricating your own points, sorry.

  591. NYCmike says:

    “602. Sound like Jeff Flake’s your man for 2020.”

    -You may be right.

    Who will the Congressional leadership be? the same turds who put this bill up to a vote?

  592. Mr.Vito says:

    Why would you call for a President to resign for passing a spending bill put forth by his own party?

    I don’t mind him resigning if he feels like it, though.

  593. CG says:

    I’ve called for Trump to resign since the moment he came down the escalator. Maybe you will join me now.

    Ryan, McConell, Schumer, and Pelosi were all yeses, so why should the Republicans “lose power” when the Democrats would be even worse on the other issues? You got Gorsuch and tax reform because of McConnnell and/or Ryan at least.

    Flake and Kasich though agree with you on this bill that you claim has you all hot and bothered now. One of them should maybe be President in 2021, no?

  594. Bitterlaw says:

    More pets? I guess DrJay’s rations will be cut again.

  595. chicon says:

    To Robbie, Trump’s handling of this bill up to the signing is helping to cement a split in the party ahead of the mid-term elections. He’s joyously celebrating, yet tries to maintain that he wants the Republicans to win the mid-terms.

    I think he wants them to lose to SEND A MESSAGE.

  596. Mr.Vito says:

    Of all the people mentioned so far, the only one who might have had the guts to veto the bill is Sasse. The rest are just playing politics for 2020.

  597. NYCmike says:

    “Ryan, McConell, Schumer, and Pelosi were all yeses, so why should the Republicans “lose power” when the Democrats would be even worse on the other issues?”

    -Voters come out to vote for reasons.

    Try speaking to voters, and see what they want their leaders in Congress to propose.

    This bill was not what they want. I expect any who voted for it to be primaried.

  598. Mr.Vito says:

    “I guess DrJay’s rations will be cut again.”

    Well, if one of the pets die, he will eat well.

  599. chicon says:

    600 – sure. Just as signing the tax increase in 1986 tossed aside the idea that Reagan was a fiscal conservative.

    Couldn’t help myself….

  600. NYCmike says:

    “CG”, as well as Robbie, Wes, jason, and Bitterlaw will NOT say anything about the Congressional leadership who pushed this bill through.

    And “CG” will keep speaking about Trump resigning, while not answering “Why would you call for a President to resign for passing a spending bill put forth by his own party?”.

  601. NYCmike says:

    “So NOW can we put to bed the idea that Trump is a fiscal conservative?”

    “So NOW can we put to bed the idea that cONGRESSIONAL LEADERSHIP ARE fiscal conservatives?”

  602. Robbie says:

    YES! YES! YES!

    Ann Coulter
    ?@AnnCoulter

    “ I will never sign another bill like this again”

    Yeah, because you’ll be impeached.

  603. NYCmike says:

    Disgusting. 2006 all over again.

    Congress learned NOTHING.
    Trump got rolled.

    Terrible.

  604. CG says:

    This moment feels a whole lot like the exact day a few months back when conservatives in Illinois started to turn on Bruce Rauner.

  605. NYCmike says:

    Robbie joyful over this bill.

  606. chicon says:

    619 – rooting for impeachment now, eh? SEND A MESSAGE.

  607. Mr.Vito says:

    Unless Paul, Lee, Cruz, Cotton and the entire freedom caucus was for the bill, I doubt Flake, Corker, or Kasich will be the nominee because of it.

  608. CG says:

    I want Trump to resign for other reasons. But this might be your reason, so welcome to the club.

  609. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 23, 2018 at 1:52 pm
    Ok, now Wobbie the amoral scumbag can go back to talking about Stormy and Roy Moore.

    – And Jason fraud can go back to saying this doesn’t matter unless it happens to a Democrat.

  610. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 23, 2018 at 1:56 pm
    To Robbie, Trump’s handling of this bill up to the signing is helping to cement a split in the party ahead of the mid-term elections. He’s joyously celebrating, yet tries to maintain that he wants the Republicans to win the mid-terms.
    I think he wants them to lose to SEND A MESSAGE.

    – Nice try chiclown.

    I want Trump out to save the party.

    You only care about Trump.

  611. chicon says:

    621 – you and Robbie should be happy with the signing, though, right? I remember reading that signing the bill would show that the Republicans can actually govern. This should help the Republican chances in November, right?

  612. NYCmike says:

    Still waiting for someone to tell me how a Republican Congress could actually write such a bill, and still waiting for someone to tell me how Republicans on this blog can support them after they wrote this bill.

  613. CG says:

    Let all those guys run in 2020!

    The more the merrier!

  614. jason says:

    I could support Flake or Kasich if they were the GOP nominees, we could do a lot worse.

    That being said, if Trump looks to be in a strong position to win in 2020, I will probably support him this time around.

  615. CG says:

    This will probably hurt Republicans in November, but the truth is that November was going to be painful for them regardless.

  616. NYCmike says:

    “I want Trump to resign for other reasons. But this might be your reason, so welcome to the club.”

    -Again, NOTHING about the people who wrote the bill.

    What happens to the Republicans who wrote the bill? Will you all call for primaries to get better elected representatives who push ideas that are Republican in nature?

  617. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 23, 2018 at 1:58 pm
    “CG”, as well as Robbie, Wes, jason, and Bitterlaw will NOT say anything about the Congressional leadership who pushed this bill through.

    – I will. I support Ryan and McConnell on this. They produced a bipartisan bill that that shows they can govern. More of that please.

  618. Mr.Vito says:

    I have to go pick up two cavies now… yay.

  619. jason says:

    I want Trump out to save the party.”

    No amoral scumbag, you could care less about the party.

    What you care is that Trump decimated your hapless candidate.

  620. chicon says:

    627 – Trump being impeached or resigning will help the Republican party, eh?

  621. NYCmike says:

    “This will probably hurt Republicans in November, but the truth is that November was going to be painful for them regardless.”

    -Why?

    This was an unforced error. It did not have to happen.

  622. NYCmike says:

    “– I will. I support Ryan and McConnell on this. They produced a bipartisan bill that that shows they can govern. More of that please.”

    -Trump signed the bill.

    Flake and Kasich are against it.

    Who will you support in 2020?

  623. Mr.Vito says:

    There is a 90% chance no one will remember this by November.

  624. CG says:

    There’s no reason for Ryan and McConnell to resign.

    You can vote to elect Democrats to the majority if you want, but that’s not going to change this

    Presidents lead. They wrote this bill with the assistance of Trump’s OMB and team. Trump said he would sign it and they all left town. Then, in his typically chaotic way he became a Veto Tease and then backed down.

    Nobody *forced* Trump to sign this. He owns it.

    But yeah, you can admit now that Jeff Flake is indeed your kind of conservative.

  625. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Producing a bill means you can govern.
    Signing it means…..?

  626. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:00 pm
    This moment feels a whole lot like the exact day a few months back when conservatives in Illinois started to turn on Bruce Rauner.

    – And just wait for Sunday night. Despite what some here want to think, Stormy is going to matter. Sex sells and so will the pictures she apparently has.

  627. CG says:

    Trump leaving office would most certainly help the Republican Party in 2018 and 2020. It’s not even close. But that’s up to him at this point.

  628. jason says:

    nd Bitterlaw will NOT say anything about the Congressional leadership who pushed this bill through.”

    You are right.

    Ryan and McConnell are not deadenders and are interested in governing.

    By signing the bill, it seems Trump is interested in governing too.

    This can be true even if we don’t agree with everything that’s in the bill.

    But tell me again how it’s Ryan and McConnell’s fault that Trump signed the bill.

    I want to LMAO again.

  629. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:00 pm
    619 – rooting for impeachment now, eh? SEND A MESSAGE.

    – I’m mocking Coulter who fell for Trump’s routine.

  630. NYCmike says:

    “You can vote to elect Democrats to the majority if you want, but that’s not going to change this”

    -It is not Republicans I am worried about when it comes to voting.

    WHY would any independent vote for a Republican Congress to pass bills like this?

    WHY wouldn’t they vote Democratic or stay home?

  631. jason says:

    Trump leaving office would most certainly help the Republican Party in 2018 and 2020″

    Well, I am not a registered R anymore, but it certainly would not help my view of the party.

    Trump was not my candidate but he won legitimately so all this coup and resignation BS is just sour grape by the Jeb Bush supporting morons.

  632. CG says:

    647. That response is why this is going to hurt Republicans in November.

    Trump doesn’t care. Trump is about Trump which of course is what I said from Day 1.

    (people grudgingly came to admit I was right about Chris Christie all along too after a few years)

  633. NYCmike says:

    “But tell me again how it’s Ryan and McConnell’s fault that Trump signed the bill.”

    -I did NOT say that. Why do you keep saying I did?

    I fault Trump for signing this.
    I fault Congress for writing it.

    Only Congress is up for election in 2018.

    Why will Independents vote for them, instead of Democrats, or instead of staying home?

  634. jason says:

    WHY wouldn’t they vote Democratic or stay home?”

    Yeah, because they know the Dems will pass much more fiscally responsible bills right?

    You really are an idiot.

  635. New York City says:

    I don’t like the bill.

    So I will support liberal Democrats being elected to even more fiscally irresponsible bills will pass.

    SEND A MESSAGE!

  636. NYCmike says:

    “647. That response is why this is going to hurt Republicans in November.

    Trump doesn’t care. Trump is about Trump which of course is what I said from Day 1.”

    -WHY did Congress write this bill?

    They are the ones up for election this year.

  637. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:05 pm
    I want Trump out to save the party.”
    No amoral scumbag, you could care less about the party.
    What you care is that Trump decimated your hapless candidate.

    – Nothing funnier than Jason fraud.

    He left the party over Trump, but attacks those who DON’T support Trump, and attacks those who stayed in the party to fight the man he left the party over.

  638. New York City says:

    I fault Trump for signing this.
    I fault Congress for writing it. ”

    LOL

    So Trump’s only responsibility is “signing” it?

    Let the spin begin.

    I knew it was going to be entertaining.

  639. CG says:

    I’ll send NYC the link to send a donation to Jeff Flake’s political committee later.

  640. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:05 pm
    627 – Trump being impeached or resigning will help the Republican party, eh?

    – If he resigns by early May, it could help. Six months of normalcy from Pence would calm the nation and tone down the anger. Republicans will always vote for Republicans and it would be a big help in bringing back Independents.

    NOT HAPPENING THOUGH.

  641. NYCmike says:

    This is wild!

    Congress passes a bill, and Republicans don’t think we should look at those individuals and ask “Should we choose them to be our representative, or would another Republican be a better fit?”.

    I know for sure, that when Trump is up for re-election, him signing this bill will DEFINITELY make me think about looking to replace him in a primary.

  642. New York City says:

    He left the party over Trump,”

    Not exactly. I left the party because the wing of the party that has an ideology I don’t support won over what I think the party should stand for. Trump was a symptom, the disease goes deeper.

    To the winners go the spoils. It’s only fair.

    But it doesn’t mean I have to oppose everything Trump does. Where I think its in the interest of the country, I support him. Judicial picks, taxes, deregulation, energy policy, global warming policy, rebuilding the military, political correctness and dealing with the MSM, etc are issues I can strongly support him on.

    Where I can’t support him, like trade policy, trade wars, tariffs, etc I will make clear my opposition.

  643. NYCmike says:

    “Let the spin begin.”

    Spin = holding someone responsible for the job they were elected to do.

    GOT IT!

  644. CG says:

    He “merely” signed the bill. Practically a bystander.

    How far we have come from, “I alone can fix this.”

  645. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:10 pm
    Trump leaving office would most certainly help the Republican Party in 2018 and 2020?
    Well, I am not a registered R anymore, but it certainly would not help my view of the party.
    Trump was not my candidate but he won legitimately so all this coup and resignation BS is just sour grape by the Jeb Bush supporting morons.

    – The photo that forced Al Franken to resign happened before he was elected. Were you all about a coup there?

    I want Trump to resign because he’s emotionally unfit and temperamentally unfit to serve. He is a disgraceful person. You felt that way until he won with a R after his name.

  646. Senators Buck, Miller, COD, Akin, and Mourdock says:

    Should we choose them to be our representative, or would another Republican be a better fit?”.

    Thank you for thinking we are a “better fit”

  647. chicon says:

    For years now, Republicans have been running as the party of smaller government. In many districts voters elect them based on the promises made in their campaigns. Then they go to Washington….were they “govern”. This “governing” looks different than the campaign to many voters, most of whom do not understand some of the “niceties” that result in votes like today. The result is that these voters get less and less likely to believe anyone attached to the political class. So they have two choices – ignore politics and don’t vote, or go further from the mainstream (toward deadenders, and people like Trump).

    The best medicine against deadenders and outside the box candidates is telling the truth while running for election, and then voting based on your promises.

  648. CG says:

    Is Bob Corker, who voted against the bill, and who said he would personally bring a pen to the White House for Trump to veto, still a pro-Iranian “Mullah?”

  649. Senators Buck, Miller, COD, Akin, and Mourdock says:

    You felt that way until he won with a R after his name.”

    No, I felt that way and then he won.

    Now I reserve the right to judge him on his actual actions as President, not on what happened in the primaries.

  650. jason says:

    I agree with the illustrious senators

  651. chicon says:

    662- but you’re still not “demanding” he resign, or has that changed, too?

  652. jason says:

    I want Trump to resign because he’s emotionally unfit and temperamentally unfit to serve”

    Zzzzzzz…

    No, amoral scumbag, you don’t really believe that.

    You want him to resign so you can start with the same sordid BS you used against Romney and every other R candidate not named Bush against Pence.

    Trump has 10 times more character than you do, you really are a despicable excuse for a human being.

  653. chicon says:

    666 – interesting post number for those candidates.

  654. jason says:

    NOT HAPPENING THOUGH.”

    Fortunately not, we are a nation of laws.

    But it doesn’t keep you from advocating overturning the results of the election because your candidate didn’t win.

  655. Waingro says:

    Awful. Shame on the president for signing this monstrosity into law.

  656. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:25 pm
    662- but you’re still not “demanding” he resign, or has that changed, too?

    – No. I am not demanding he resign. I wish he would quit, though.

  657. NYCmike says:

    “Awful. Shame on the president for signing this monstrosity into law.”

    -Already said that.

    How about Congress?

  658. chicon says:

    So yesterday, Robbie says he doesn’t care what’s in the omnibus bill, but that it should be signed so the Republicans can prove that they can “govern” (whatever that means). Trump does so today. Robbie bashes Trump. Just beautiful…..

  659. chicon says:

    673 – huge distinction!!

  660. NYCmike says:

    Ok.

    Fine with it.

    Primary EVERYONE (includes Trump in 2020) and let the chips fall where they may.

    Trump blew it today. Congress was already a lost cause. 8 years of Obama and they still think they know better.

  661. mnw says:

    The trolls have taken over here.

    This is really The Troll Report now, not HHR any more.

  662. NYCmike says:

    ” Senators Buck, Miller, COD, Akin, and Mourdock says:”

    -Congrats guys, you lost. Better luck next time.

    The people who WON just wrote the bill signed into law by the President.

  663. Waingro says:

    ????????

    John Kasich
    ?Verified account @JohnKasich

    Make no mistake, our children & grandchildren will be the ones paying for this generation’s runaway spending. The GOP used to proudly stand for fiscal restraint. Nowadays, it’s hard to imagine that America had a budget SURPLUS just 20 yrs ago.

    $21 TRILLION in debt & counting…

  664. Waingro says:

    #674, “-Already said that.

    How about Congress?”

    Absolutely. I hope everyone of them gets primaried.

  665. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:25 pm
    I want Trump to resign because he’s emotionally unfit and temperamentally unfit to serve”
    Zzzzzzz…
    No, amoral scumbag, you don’t really believe that.
    You want him to resign so you can start with the same sordid BS you used against Romney and every other R candidate not named Bush against Pence.
    Trump has 10 times more character than you do, you really are a despicable excuse for a human being.

    – Jason fraud is really upping his fraudulence today. Now Jason fraud’s mantra is MUST PROTECT THE TRUMP.

    Jason fraud is a lying moron because I have said repeatedly Pence was one of my choices early in the 2012 process. If he became president or ran in 2020, I would eagerly and enthusiastically vote him.

    But in Jason fraud’s mind, Trump, a morally vacant pervert, is 10 times a better man than me.

    Physician, heal thyself. Or in this case, Trump shill, heal thyself.

  666. NYCmike says:

    “This is really The Troll Report now, not HHR any more.”

    -To me, it feels like Polipundit when it imploded.

    I don’t understand how the “Republicans” here are not furious at Congress for writing this bill.

    I know I am furious at Trump for signing it…….but he is not the only person involved.

    How does Congress escape criticism for writing this bill?

  667. jason says:

    he photo that forced Al Franken to resign”

    Zzzzzz.. that photo did not cause him to resign, it was the fact he admitted grabbing her and kissing her on the mouth.

    What caused him to resign was that he admitted wrongdoing and his party threw him under the bus because they knew another moonbat would be appointed.

    “A female radio news anchor said Thursday that Minnesota Democratic Sen. Al Franken groped and “forcibly kissed” her without her consent during an overseas USO tour in 2006, two years before Franken was elected to the Senate.
    The revelations have prompted Franken to apologize.”

  668. NYCmike says:

    jason and Robbie are arguing over Al Franken…..that right there is a microcosm of the Republican Party issues.

  669. jason says:

    but he is not the only person involved.”

    Actually yes he is.

    The buck stops with him.

    But keep spinning, I knew it would be epic.

  670. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:31 pm
    673 – huge distinction!!

    Yes, there is. I just wish he wasn’t president, but I accept he is. He’s done nothing yet to demand his resignation. That may come depending on what Stormy says.

  671. NYCmike says:

    Kasich FINALLY says something worthy of being called a Republican……only took him 15 months.

  672. CG says:

    According to jason, Robbie would pimp out his mother and that would be wrong, but it would be cool if Trump pimped out his daughter.

  673. jason says:

    hat right there is a microcosm of the Republican Party issues.”

    Translation: I don’t even know what microcosm is.

  674. NYCmike says:

    “That may come depending on what Stormy says.”

    -Again, Robbie focusing on Stormy and AL Franken…….pitiful.

  675. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:30 pm
    So yesterday, Robbie says he doesn’t care what’s in the omnibus bill, but that it should be signed so the Republicans can prove that they can “govern” (whatever that means). Trump does so today. Robbie bashes Trump. Just beautiful…..

    – Nice try, chiclown. I objected to Trump’s empty veto threat that riled up the FoxNews mouth breathers. He was right to sign the bill. Threatening a veto after the bill had been passed and when he never threatened one before passage was wrong.

  676. jason says:

    ccording to jason, Robbie would pimp out his mother and that would be wrong”

    I didn’t say it would be wrong, I just said he would do it if he thought it would damage Trump in any way.

    No reflection on his mother, I am sure she is a fine woman, not her fault she raised an amoral scumbag.

    As for Trump, no I don’t think it would be cool if he pimped out his daughter, and I am sure you cannot find anywhere where I said it was.

  677. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:33 pm
    The trolls have taken over here.
    This is really The Troll Report now, not HHR any more.

    – Yes, the pro-Trump trolls have ruined the place.

  678. CG says:

    Fact check:

    “This is the SIXTH time Trump has approved taxpayer funds for Planned Parenthood.

    Last September the GOP presented him with a long-term budget that defunded Planned Parenthood. He rejected it and instead cut a deal with Pelosi for a plan that kept PP funded.”

  679. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:36 pm
    he photo that forced Al Franken to resign”
    Zzzzzz.. that photo did not cause him to resign, it was the fact he admitted grabbing her and kissing her on the mouth.

    – Yes it did and the Democrat women Senators who called on him to resign said the photo changed everything and couldn’t be ignored.

  680. NYCmike says:

    ” He was right to sign the bill.”

    -This, again, is a person who claims to be a Republican.

    This bill/now law is MUCH MORE of a reason to leave the Republican Party than Trump ever was.

    Terrible decision to sign!
    Terrible legislation to bring to the floor!

    ALL involved should lose their jobs.

  681. Waingro says:

    #694, it’s still bad in here, but I actually find the balance has shifted someone nicely from the last time I checked in here a few months ago. Seems like there are a few more non MAGA absolutists on here.

  682. CG says:

    Does NYC not remember the big back and forth here a few months ago when Trump cut the deal with “Chuck and Nancy” and went against the longer, more conservative deal the GOP congressional leaders wanted?

    He cut a short term deal, that lead to another deal, that now led to this.

    NYC was convinced then that Trump was being brilliant.

    Had he allowed Ryan and McConnell to do what they wanted months ago, none of this would be happening.

  683. Waingro says:

    #698, somewhat

  684. CG says:

    Based on what we know about Trump’s personal life, Planned Parenthood might understandably be a priority for him.

  685. jason says:

    I see.

    The amoral scumbag is once again focused on the tree instead of the forest.

    The problem was not that Trump signed or not signed the bill, but the “empty threat”.

    Like the “empty threat” matters in any way, shape or form.

  686. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:38 pm
    “That may come depending on what Stormy says.”
    -Again, Robbie focusing on Stormy and AL Franken…….pitiful.

    – Pitiful is a guy like Trump who goes out and screws a porn star just months after his fifth child was born.

  687. jason says:

    Last September the GOP presented him with a long-term budget that defunded Planned Parenthood. He rejected it and instead cut a deal with Pelosi for a plan that kept PP funded.”

    Trump has a long history of being pro-choice. There were even videos of him defending partial birth abortion. I don’t have a problem with his pro-choice (at least first trimester) position since I share it but as usual the “Trump is a conservative” crowd assured us Trump was the most pro-life candidate in history.

    Trump is not a conservative on abortion. Not a conservative on trade. Not a conservative on spending.

    Never was. So those who choose to be disappointed deserve to be.

  688. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:41 pm

    As for Trump, no I don’t think it would be cool if he pimped out his daughter, and I am sure you cannot find anywhere where I said it was.

    – Not pimping her, just perverted.

    “I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”

    “My daughter, Ivanka. She’s 6 feet tall, she’s got the best body.”

  689. CG says:

    Back in September, when we discussed the “deal”, a couple of us theorized that “Chuck and Nancy” had made Trump their b8tch and that he had screwed over the GOP and that the Democrats would have a ton more leverage in 2018, an election year.

    Others here at the time said though, “no, no, trust the Trump! Look at all the great deals he has cut in the NYC real estate world.”

    So, who was right?

  690. Wobbles says:

    Porn stars are disgusting people.

    But if they go on TV I believe every word they say, as long as its something damaging to Trump.

  691. jason says:

    Can anyone imagine 60 minutes putting on a porn star who alleged having an affair with Obama over a decade before he was President?

    Anyone?

  692. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:46 pm
    I see.
    The amoral scumbag is once again focused on the tree instead of the forest.
    The problem was not that Trump signed or not signed the bill, but the “empty threat”.
    Like the “empty threat” matters in any way, shape or form.

    – The empty threat riled up the FoxNews mouth breathers at just the time the party is trying to figure out how to hold on the Congress. He needlessly poured salt in the wound.

  693. CG says:

    708. Sure, if it happened.

  694. CG says:

    Let’s say if hush money was paid..

    Was it like two months ago that jason on here was insisting that Stormy was denying the affair and thus no story?

  695. jason says:

    ’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”

    “My daughter, Ivanka. She’s 6 feet tall, she’s got the best body.”

    Nah, I have zero problem with that.

    IF she weren’t my daughter.

    I think he is saying she is beautiful, and I don’t have an issue with it.

    If you want to be critical of Trump’s statements, there are many to choose from, like calling a Federal judge a “Mexican” and saying he doesn’t respect John McCain’s war record “because he was captured”.

    The one about Ivanka, no.

  696. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:54 pm
    Porn stars are disgusting people.
    But if they go on TV I believe every word they say, as long as its something damaging to Trump.

    – If she has corroborating evidence, yes, I’ll believe her.

    Trump didn’t pay Stormy $130,000 for no good reason.

    And since Trump lies continually, there’s no reason for me to give him the benefit of the doubt.

  697. jason says:

    ‘he needlessly poured salt in the wound.”

    Zzzzzzz…..

    You need psychiatric help, amoral scumbag.

  698. CG says:

    Hey, let’s give Trump his due…

    He asked his son Donald Jr to break off the extra-marital affair he was having with quasi-celebrity Aubrey O’Day.

    I guess he didn’t want his son to be too much like him

  699. CG says:

    With the breakup of his marriage now though, Don Jr. is free to intercept all the porn stars before they can get to his father…or Wes..

  700. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:55 pm
    Can anyone imagine 60 minutes putting on a porn star who alleged having an affair with Obama over a decade before he was President?
    Anyone?

    – Yes. Sex sells.

    And I can say with 100% certainty, it would upset you greatly if Obama paid hush money to a porn star because he is a Democrat.

    You don’t care about Trump because he has a R next to his name.

  701. CG says:

    That is until Don Jr goes to prison and meets a different kind of “friend.”

  702. CG says:

    Trumpists are just mad that Obama got a free pass for fathering a black child.

  703. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    March 23, 2018 at 2:58 pm
    Let’s say if hush money was paid..
    Was it like two months ago that jason on here was insisting that Stormy was denying the affair and thus no story?

    – Funny how the Trump loyalists keep moving the goalposts on this.

  704. jason says:

    Trump didn’t pay Stormy $130,000 for no good reason.”

    Actually there was plenty of good reason.

    This woman had said in a 2011 interview that she had an affair with Trump and now she resurfaces right before the election obviously to try to cash in.

    The MSM would of course have covered it (never if it was Obama) so they paid her off so if wouldn’t be a last minute distraction even if it was an old story.

    So the NDA makes sense whether or not the affair existed, not that its relevant to Trump’s presidency one way or the other.

    I think 99% of people who voted in the election probably were aware a billionaire playboy type like Trump might be sleeping with models years before he became President.

    The same MSM making a big deal out of Stormy was out in full force defending Clinton (it’s only sex) when he was actually having sex with an intern WHILE IN OFFICE.

  705. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 23, 2018 at 3:00 pm

    You need psychiatric help, amoral scumbag.

    – This from a guy who hated Trump during the campaign, left the party over him, and then demands the party support him.

    LOL.

  706. chicon says:

    721 – very logical. Now for the Emotional Poster to dispute it.

  707. jason says:

    Can anyone imagine 60 minutes putting on a porn star who alleged having an affair with Obama over a decade before he was President?
    Anyone?

    – Yes. Sex sells.”

    It sells but they would never have interviewed her if it was Obama.

    NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS. But you know that.

  708. CG says:

    So, it’s a good idea to pay someone off to stop them from lying?

    Gee, that’s not exactly a person who would make a good Commander in Chief…

  709. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 23, 2018 at 3:06 pm
    Trump didn’t pay Stormy $130,000 for no good reason.”
    Actually there was plenty of good reason.
    This woman had said in a 2011 interview that she had an affair with Trump and now she resurfaces right before the election obviously to try to cash in.
    The MSM would of course have covered it (never if it was Obama) so they paid her off so if wouldn’t be a last minute distraction even if it was an old story.
    So the NDA makes sense whether or not the affair existed, not that its relevant to Trump’s presidency one way or the other.
    I think 99% of people who voted in the election probably were aware a billionaire playboy type like Trump might be sleeping with models years before he became President.
    The same MSM making a big deal out of Stormy was out in full force defending Clinton (it’s only sex) when he was actually having sex with an intern WHILE IN OFFICE.

    – Jason fraud is playing a big game of “whataboutism”.

    He threw his integrity away to support Trump and the results have been predictable.

  710. gameboy says:

    #706

    I hate to say, but you are correct. By signing this piece of s**t of a bill Trump is no different from them. What a disgrace. The base will have no reason to get excited in November, and to Robbie’s delight the dems will pick up 40-50 seats in the house, and likely take the senate with them. Get ready for two years of impeachment excitement!!! By coincidence Mueller will announce Trumped up (no pun intended) charges the weekend after the mid term elections and we are off to the races. That’s why Trump needs to fire Mueller and as many deep staters NOW while he at least has chance in the fight. Come Novemenber it will be too late and he will be finished.

  711. chicon says:

    726 – more of this whataboutism… Which we all know is the response where the point made by the other guy is dead on, and there’s no effective response.

  712. CG says:

    Had Obama been credibly accused of having extramarital affair at any point in his life it would have been all over Fox News, and every other station as well.

    The hypocritical liberals would say it didn’t matter and the hypocritical Trumpists would say it did.

    I’d remain consistent of course.

  713. chicon says:

    729 – oh, yeah, for sure….you’d be totes consistent….

  714. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 23, 2018 at 3:08 pm
    721 – very logical. Now for the Emotional Poster to dispute it.

    – LOL. You find anything that is supportive of Trump to be the best thing ever written, especially if it’s a conspiracy theory like the DNC murdered Seth Rich or Obama used the British to spy on Trump.

    Jason fraud also thinks the woman who was fingered at 14 by Roy Moore was lying and just looking for money. No doubt you find that to be epically smart as well?

  715. CG says:

    CG= Consistent Genius

  716. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 23, 2018 at 3:12 pm
    726 – more of this whataboutism… Which we all know is the response where the point made by the other guy is dead on, and there’s no effective response.

    – Meanwhile, I’m still wondering why you refuse to acknowledge you fell for two outrageously stupid conspiracy theories.

  717. jason says:

    Oh and let me put to rest the idea that I would have cared if it came out during Obama’s presidency that he had an affair over a decade before he became President.

    I always thought Obama was a complete and utter fraud, a glorified community rabble rouser who had zero business being President, so it certainly would have made no difference in my view of him.

  718. CG says:

    If I faslely accuse Elizabeth Warren of holding me hostage in a teepee for two months, will she pay me a large sum of money just to keep quiet?

  719. jason says:

    ason fraud also thinks the woman who was fingered at 14 by Roy Moore was lying and just looking for money.”

    What I actually said is that the charges against Moore were politically motivated. The timing is not a coincidence.

    And of course you don’t know if they are true either. I always left open the possibility they could be true, AND IF PROVEN, then Moore should be kicked out of the senate.

    The reasons for NOT nominating a scumbag like Moore were many, but these charges were not part of them.

  720. chicon says:

    731 – Jason’s right, you’ve cracked… I used to say I’d still be happy to fly on a plane you piloted despite your silly political beliefs and constant negativism. Now, I think I’d drive….

  721. Robbie says:

    Anyone who thinks the press wouldn’t have gone bonkers over Obama and a porn star is living in an alternate reality. The press loved Clinton in 1998, yet they covered Lewinsky day after day after day. FoxNews would be in meltdown mode over Obama. Now, they barely mention Stormy because they are state tv for Trump.

  722. NYCmike says:

    “– Pitiful is a guy like Trump who goes out and screws a porn star just months after his fifth child was born.”

    -Agreed.

  723. jason says:

    If I faslely accuse Elizabeth Warren of holding me hostage in a teepee for two months, will she pay me a large sum of money just to keep quiet?”

    Yes.

    Keep it in mind if she runs, her lawyers will be happy to talk to you.

  724. CG says:

    So even if they are true, they don’t matter if someone is trying to defeat you in a political race?

  725. NYCmike says:

    Both can be true.

  726. chicon says:

    738 – I’ve often thought about living in an alternative reality, but then I realized I wouldn’t want to live with Robbie.

  727. CG says:

    She’d have some dumb lawyers then, especially if they write a check and give her a false name on the NDA.

    That nutjob who said Obama raped him a limo should have asked for a payday.

  728. NYCmike says:

    ” The press loved Clinton in 1998, yet they covered Lewinsky day after day after day.”

    -How do you NOT MENTION Drudge in regards to the media, Lewinsky, and Clinton?

    The media tried to bury it.

  729. CG says:

    Unprotected too with multiple promiscuous women.

    Clearly, the health of his wife, let alone himself, is not something he cared much about.

  730. chicon says:

    745 – because of that alternate reality joint in which he resides….

  731. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 23, 2018 at 3:21 pm
    731 – Jason’s right, you’ve cracked… I used to say I’d still be happy to fly on a plane you piloted despite your silly political beliefs and constant negativism. Now, I think I’d drive….

    – And I think you’re 100% lying about having been a lurker here since 2004 (about 12 years), but only started to post here as soon as Trump won.

    At least Jonesy was a transparent Trump shill. By the way, where has Jonesy gone the last three months? Recalled and given a new name in another forum?

  732. CG says:

    They wouldn’t have tried to bury it if Lewinsky was the one offering up the story at the time.

  733. chicon says:

    746 – yep Bill really didn’t care much about Hillary. Can you believe Ms. Feminist stood by her man?

  734. CG says:

    Jonesy drank some Orange Flavor-Aid.

  735. jason says:

    So, it’s a good idea to pay someone off to stop them from lying?

    Gee, that’s not exactly a person who would make a good Commander in Chief…”

    Hillary did a lot worse than that, I am always willing to compare who was less fit for the Presidency and Hillary always wins.

    Of course, my theory was if you are unfit you are unfit, I had this argument with Bitter for months regarding Trump vs. Hillary, and that is why I didn’t vote for either one.

    But put a gun to my head, Hillary was worse. Much more corrupt, that is for sure.

  736. CG says:

    750. Sounds like you enjoy whataboutism.

  737. Michael says:

    Well Bitterlaw,

    Marple is doing pretty well politically. All seats are GOP.

    Oh I know PSU is bad basketball (usually) I have been to over 40 games over the past 7 seasons. But this year is different Bitter, they almost got to the tourney this year and will probably make the tournament next year. Reason why?
    1. The B1G is weaker so they have a good shot of beating teams that normally destroy them.
    2. We have a lot of Philly talent that has just come in and picked this team up. They used to average less that 70 per game in previous seasons. Now its around 74.5.
    I think PSU will get to the tournament next year and then they’ll go back to mediocrity.

  738. Robbie says:

    Rough moment for the fire Mueller crowd.

    Geoff Garin
    ?@geoffgarin

    New Marist poll: By 72% to 11% registered voters say Muller should be allowed to finish the investigation, not be fired. Republicans oppose firing Muller by 57% to 25%

  739. CG says:

    Marist poll= Marxist poll= trash it

    The Drudge online poll said fire his ass!

  740. chicon says:

    748 – believe what you like, fly boy. I remember Gary Maxwell and his grand exit, a couple long departures by Wes, rdel’s re-weighting of the polls, the long dead periods between elections without any action, Polaris playing the expert (and then losing his mind about Obama eliminating elections – reminds me of you losing it over Trump), the formation of the Philly A-Holes, and many more.

    Most relevant here….I remember you being a whiny, negative worry wart just about every time you post…

  741. Robbie says:

    More tariffs and trade wars!

    CNBC
    @CNBC

    BREAKING: Dow extends drop, falls more than 300 points http://cnb.cx/2HYwncI

  742. CG says:

    chicon, what can you tell us about addisonst?

  743. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 23, 2018 at 3:31 pm
    748 – believe what you like, fly boy. I remember Gary Maxwell and his grand exit, a couple long departures by Wes, rdel’s re-weighting of the polls, the long dead periods between elections without any action, Polaris playing the expert (and then losing his mind about Obama eliminating elections – reminds me of you losing it over Trump), the formation of the Philly A-Holes, and many more.
    Most relevant here….I remember you being a whiny, negative worry wart just about every time you post…

    – And my only memories of you are as a believer of conspiracies and Trump shilling.

  744. jason says:

    The MSM ran interference for Clinton non-stop.

    They protected him all they could, and repeated the “he only lied about sex” meme for years.

    But I am sure they would do the same for Trump.

    The idea that ANY MSM organization would even get close to interviewing an Obama “Stormy” is ludicrous.

    NOT IN A MILLION YEARS. They would have been out there destroying whatever reputation she had left with a vengeance if she dared tell any stories. They would destroy her in a week, because a porn star will have a lot of skeletons, believe me.

    No Mother Theresa treatment like Stormy is getting.

  745. CG says:

    Trump was very active in the 90s defending Clinton in the MSM.

    But he had “proof” that Obama’s birth certificate was a fake.

    Was he telling the truth then?

  746. Robbie says:

    I thought he was just a coffee boy.

    Kyle Griffin
    ?@kylegriffin1

    “Emails described to WaPo, which are among thousands of documents turned over to investigators… show that Papadopoulos had more extensive contact with key Trump campaign and presidential transition officials than has been publicly acknowledged.”

  747. chicon says:

    760 – because you often admit you don’t read the posts of others….

  748. jason says:

    Firing Mueller would be stupid.

    I think even here at HHR only Tina and JC that I can remember thinks that’s a good idea.

    Not that I think Mueller’s investigation isn’t a witch hunt at this point, Trump is right that it is.

    But its too late now, fortunately there is plenty out there to show there is a lot of bias from the parties handling it.

    The IG report should be really interesting.

  749. CG says:

    j-son, cut out the tap dancing, do you think Trump was with Stormy or not?

  750. jason says:

    Emails described to WaPo,”

    LOL

  751. jason says:

    “described” is great.

  752. chicon says:

    Wow, that sounds devastating.

  753. CG says:

    chicon, do you remember addisonst?

  754. jason says:

    -son, cut out the tap dancing, do you think Trump was with Stormy or not?”

    I honestly don’t know, but in any case I think its 100% irrelevant to Trump’s presidency and the issues facing us today.

    Just like the MSM would say an Obama purported affair a dozen years before he became President would be completely irrelevant to his Presidency.

  755. jason says:

    Emails described to the WAPO, that’s really hilarious.

  756. chicon says:

    Sounds familiar, but I don’t remember much about him.

  757. Phil says:

    The IG Report will indeed be “interesting”.

    Think the lovebirds and McCabe are looking forward to its release?

    Uh, kind of doubt that one.

  758. jason says:

    show that Papadopoulos had more extensive contact with key Trump campaign and presidential transition officials”

    Wow, that really sounds like collusion with the Russians.

    They finally have the smoking gun.

  759. chicon says:

    I also remember that the Wizard himself used to post once in awhile, but not anymore. Maybe having the kid keeps him busy.

  760. jason says:

    Think the lovebirds and McCabe are looking forward to its release?”

    Wray yesterday said McCabe’s firing was not in any way political.

    So you know what’s coming, I am sure they have the goods on McCabe.

  761. CG says:

    771, What a cop out

  762. CG says:

    773 interesting

  763. Robbie says:

    Amazing to watch people complain about efforts to delegitimize this presidency after Trump spent the last presidency trying to delegitimize it by claiming Obama wasn’t born in America.

  764. chicon says:

    Amazing to watch people engage in efforts to delegitimize this presidency after thinking it was out of bounds trying to delegitimize Obama’s presidency by claiming he wasn’t born in America.

    Whataboutism is fun!

  765. Phil says:

    McCabe is toast.

    Comey isn’t going to come out like a saint either. Comey’s book tour is going to be a riot.

  766. CG says:

    Michael Bennett has been indicted.

    (Tina will think it’s the Colorado Senator)

  767. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The Senate has not confirmed a Trump nominated Judge since March 6th.
    The information in the link below shows that 4 Circuit Court Judges and over a dozen District Judges have made it through the Senate Judiciary Committee and await a vote in the Senate.
    What is McConnell et al waiting for?!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_judges_appointed_by_Donald_Trump

  768. NYCmike says:

    “The Senate has not confirmed a Trump nominated Judge since March 6th.”

    -“CG” and Robbie will ignore…..and blame Trump for not confirming them.

  769. CG says:

    and you know for a fact that something is amiss how?

    How often are these votes typically held?

  770. Wes says:

    Did Trump bang a young, hot porn starlet when Bush was President?

    I have no freaking idea.

    What I do know is that I don’t care.

    I’m sure millions of American men would have salivated at the prospect of nailing Stormy Daniels a dozen years ago. That Trump may have succeeded is utterly irrelevant to his tenure as President.

  771. Wes says:

    As I said yesterday, Presidents are not clerics. They are political rather than religious leaders.

    Arguing about whom a President may or may not have slept with–especially before becoming President–is an utterly pointless exercise.

  772. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    Was this a good bill?

  773. Wes says:

    Zell Miller has passed.

    RIP

  774. Wes says:

    I haven’t finished examining enough of it to say definitely yet, Mikey, but I’m going to give a qualified no based on what I have looked into regarding it.

  775. Wes says:

    New generic ballot: D+5—-44-39.

    That’s good news.

  776. Walt says:

    WI–CD 7

    Marshfield physician Brian Ewert Ashland is the Democratic candidate for the Seventh Congressional seat currently held by Republican Sean Duffy of Wausau

    I predict Duffy holds the seat.

  777. Cash Cow TM says:

    Mrs. Walt told Walt she would vacuum and gave orders for him to dust.

    Which meant not only dust, but do a thorough spring cleaning of each room.

    Took him over an HOUR to do one friggin’room.
    THEN, he handed me the cleaning materials and told me to do the rest of the house.

    I protested, pointing out that I had no thumbs.
    He said “You will figure it out.”

    Been busting my bovine butt for hours…

  778. Cash Cow TM says:

    ssq texted me.

    Said she saw this headline over at DRUDGE:

    “TRUMP SIGNS MONSTER SPENDING BILL…”
    ************************************
    She wondered, with all the spending needs in the country, why would we pass a bill to spend money on monsters?

    jason or Bitter should handle this question…

  779. CG says:

    Wow, was Rush Limbaugh ever depressed today.

    Did these people not expect this?

    It really seems like NYC is genuinely surprised and let down by Trump. He really bought in. This has to be tough.

  780. CG says:

    And the one really noticeable thing is, he teased his people. Teased them with a veto. He knew he wouldn’t do it, but he teased them, because he thought he could…. (a less violent version of his Fifth Avenue fantasy)

    Are they going to take it from “Mr. Trump” or will they show him that they let him down?

    Time will tell. He’s a well-practiced con man and the hold he has on them may be tough to break…

  781. Hugh says:

    Guys. I don’t see good things coming in November particularly for the house. If trump could muster 2 months of reasonable behavior, maybe. However I have given up on him on that front. He could have been outstanding but it is what it is. Btw cheating on your wife with a pornstar does bother me. Not as bad as sex with an intern which would get any ceo fired.

  782. Redmen4ever says:

    The old rule was that a person who betrayed his wife couldn’t be trusted to keep his word with voters. An adulterer would inevitably betray his “old” supporters in search of “new” supporters.

    Trump’s lifetime of cavorting and vulgar talk combined with his craziness on policy might seem to vindicate the old rule. But, to his supporters, his candor and lack of consistency on policy are both seen as refreshingly honest.

    It’s not that Trump is a cheater or is dishonest, he’s amoral and he doesn’t have a consistent political philosophy. Trump is a Nixon, not a Reagan.

  783. Diamond Jim says:

    DCCC

  784. Tina says:

    So, trump signed the ryano, piglosi, mitchie bill.

    We are in trouble in november because the rinos in congress sold us out.

    Since 2010…

    Always, we will win next time.

  785. Tina says:

    But, I warned you.

    They kept agreeing to crs.

    This always happens.

    Then the congress pass this sheot bill and went on vacation.

    Mitchie and ryano need to go.

  786. Tina says:

    Jason, no mulehead should not be fired.

    The rs should defund him, but they are weak.

    If Swampstein signed off on mccabe investigating trump, he ahould be fired.

  787. Tina says:

    Rs need to do no confidence votes in ryano, mitchie.

  788. NYCmike says:

    “Did these people not expect this?

    It really seems like NYC is genuinely surprised and let down by Trump. He really bought in. This has to be tough.”

    -“CG”, again, must think that Trump writes the bills.

    How many times did I say that I wanted a Republican Congress to send Trump the MOST CONSERVATIVE bill it can, on any policy initiative, and make him sign or veto?

    Instead, what we got instead, was a bill pushed by Mitch which was one that Obama himself would have signed.

    Trump is to blame for signing this monstrosity.

    Congress, led by Republicans, is to blame for writing it, bringing it to a vote, and passing it.

    And those actions by Congressional Republicans will probably ensure a lower level of enthusiasm for them in November, which could have been avoided had they acted more responsibly.

  789. Tina says:

    Why did the congress recess?

    Why did the negotiate this with ds and allow no amendments,

    Trump deserves criticism, but so does the r congress,

  790. Tina says:

    The rs teased us. They said they would fight in negotiations.

    They failed and fled.

  791. CG says:

    You just don’t understand NYC, that they wrote this bill with Trump’s staff. They were told this was what Trump wanted and what he would sign, so they wrote it based on that.

    As was shown to you, there was a much better bill back in September that would have avoided all of this, but Trump rejected it and at that time cut a deal directly with Pelosi and Schumer. His backers at HHR at the time praised him for working with Democrats to teach Republicans a “lesson.”

    Now, the lesson has been taught to you, but you just need to understand the reality and the chronology of what happened.

  792. Tina says:

    Will any deadenders support ryano and mitchie.

    Notice all big spending bill has had mitchie in the equation.

    We get rolled.

  793. CG says:

    “Trump contended he was “forced” to sign it, but he could’ve told Hill leaders earlier he wanted short-term CR to allow for time to produce a bill more to his liking. But the bill was reached as a result of talks b/w Hill leaders and Trump’s own WH staff.”

    Stop making excuses for Trump as if he were a special needs child. He said he was “smarter than everyone” in Washington, and clearly he isn’t.

    Unless… unless… this is all part of a plan of his to work with the Democrats, whom he helped fund and elect in the first place, all along.

  794. Tina says:

    They did not do a cr.

    They keft town.

    He could have said so, but moot since they fled.

  795. CG says:

    He should have asked them to do a CR, but didn’t.

    Maybe, just maybe, he accomplished exactly what he wanted all along. Otherwise, he is very not smart.

    NYC is going to be in denial that Trump might have possibly cheated on him and his other supporters, to purposely give Democrats want they wanted, but I am sure Melania never thought he would cheat on her either.

  796. Tina says:

    Everybody is to blame.

    You should gloat since the ds won.

  797. Tina says:

    Ryano cheated with piglosi and mitchie, in a 3 way.

  798. Tina says:

    Hopefully, he does not legalizr the illegal Daca. The court intervened and deports them.

    Bye bye stoodents that are of age 30.

  799. NYCmike says:

    “You just don’t understand NYC, that they wrote this bill with Trump’s staff. They were told this was what Trump wanted and what he would sign, so they wrote it based on that.”

    -“CG”,

    To clarify, When you write “that they wrote”, the “they” means CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS “wrote this bill with Trump’s staff”?

    Is that correct?

  800. CG says:

    Republican AND Democrat leaders wrote the bill with Trump’s staff.

    Before this morning and the head fake Veto Tease, those entities were all totally on the same page and yesterday, Mick Mulvaney was at the WH podium praising the bill as good for the country and reflective of the Administration’s priorities.

  801. NYCmike says:

    “They were told this was what Trump wanted and what he would sign, so they wrote it based on that.””

    -Let me get this straight: we are supposed to support, in the next election, people who would write this bill because Trump wanted it?

    “CG”, you wouldn’t want to primary someone who did what Trump wanted?

  802. CG says:

    Mick Mulvaney, Trump’s hand-picked OMB Director (and another job as well) and former House Freedom Caucus member said specifically, just yesterday, that Trump “looked forward” to signing the bill.

    But this morning, he decided to mess with you guys and teased you about a veto.

    “When you’re a star, they let you get away with it.”

  803. NYCmike says:

    “Republican AND Democrat leaders wrote the bill with Trump’s staff.”

    -“CG”,

    In regards to Ryan and McConnell, do you now think they should be replaced, for acting in such an awful manner?

    Why would a Kasich or a Flake want those 2 men as Congressional leaders if they are so easily pushed around by Trump and Mulvaney?

  804. Tina says:

    Had they not left town, trump could have vetoed, and then they could have done a cr.

    They already did teo.

  805. CG says:

    Well, you told me I was supposed to support Trump just because Hillary was “worse” and nothing else should matter.

    So, if you have an ounce of consistency, you should vote Republican for Congress, and the people the party nominates.

    And then, you can have a clean conscience by supporting a primary opponent to Trump who opposed this bill.

  806. Tina says:

    Mitchie and ryano surrendered by quitting.

  807. CG says:

    I’ve been disappointed with all the GOP leaders who capitulated to Trump back in 2016.

    Give me Never Trumpers as Speaker and Senate Leader and I will be happy.

    Sasse for Majority Leader?

    You guys were happy to force Corker and Flake out the door and they voted the way you say you want.

  808. NYCmike says:

    “So, if you have an ounce of consistency, you should vote Republican for Congress, and the people the party nominates.”

    -Of course I will vote Republican for Congress.

    The point is to get Republicans that WOULD NOT write a bill such as the one we saw today!

    ISN’T IT?

  809. Tina says:

    Mitxhie has capitulated to the ds since 2010. Each time, i keep pointing out the same. I warned that we will get screwed after two crs.

    Mitchie and ryano agreed to congressional,pay increases too.

    They should be cutting their pay.

  810. CG says:

    Let’s get a President who would not sign such a bill and would not put in place AFL-CIO tariffs, etc. etc.

    Face it, own up to it, embrace it, you belong on the Flake 2020 Express.

  811. Tina says:

    Lets get a president who blows money in iraq, blows up the dept of education, and provides medicare part d.

    Leave no illegal behind.

  812. NYCmike says:

    “Give me Never Trumpers as Speaker and Senate Leader and I will be happy.”

    -NOW you say this.

    I said get rid of Ryan and McConnell right after the last election, and you were one of the people who ignored those pleas.

    ALL you could do was rattle on about Trump.

  813. NYCmike says:

    “Let’s get a President who would not sign such a bill and would not put in place AFL-CIO tariffs, etc. etc.”

    -Do you recall 2001-2008?

  814. Tina says:

    I think the only recourse now is to change out ryano and mitchie.

    If trump does it again, then he coukd get primaried,

    But stronger congressional leaderahip is needed.

  815. Tina says:

    Ryano and mitchie are never trumpers, and moreover, never winners.

  816. CG says:

    Trump has two accomplishments as President. Maybe they are huge, maybe they are small, maybe they are in between, but they are accomplishments that tend even to unite his supporters on the right and his opponents on the right and they might possibly wind up being his *only* major accomplishments.

    1. Gorsuch
    2. Tax cuts

    Gorsuch never happens without McConnell, both in terms of the way McConnell stuck his neck out to stop Obama and Garland and what McConnell had to do on the nuclear option. He deserves your everlasting gratitude for that.

    Tax cuts? Those do not happen without the skill both McConnell and Ryan showed in keeping the party in line, because the Democrats sure were not willing to help out.

    A year from now, smart money is that Pelosi (or someone like her but younger) will be Speaker, so you are going to miss the days of Ryan and McConnell then.

  817. Tina says:

    Never winners.

    2010

    More proof is not needed

    It is clear.

    Two cra, i warned what woukd happen, and it did,

    Ryano, mitchie roomed up with Schmigmah and piglosi.

  818. Tina says:

    Gorsuch never happens with grassley.

    Mitchie failed. Every blown up he has been involved with.

  819. CG says:

    2001-2009 had a conservative as President

    The tariffs he signed, which were a mistake, were nowhere near the same thing as what Trump wants.

    But they were a mistake and all the more reason why Trump should not be doing what he is.

  820. NYCmike says:

    I am in utter amazement as to how a person like “CG”, who claims to be a Republican interested in politics, is more worried about a President, who is not up for re-election until 2020, who signed bad legislation, instead of looking at the source of the legislation, as well as the branch of government with the primary power of writing legislation.

    I want a leadership who would have told Mulvaney, Schumer, and Pelosi “Get the F*ck out of our chamber, when we are done writing you can decide to vote Yay or Nay when we bring this B*TCH to the floor!”.

  821. CG says:

    People who are making excuses for Trump for signing this bill on his own free will are like the people who would make an excuse for a cheating husband by blaming Hooters’ waitresses.

  822. CG says:

    We all get to vote for one President, one Senator, one Congressperson.

    So, in 2018, you can decide if you want to vote for Gillibrand to send a message, or for a Democrat running against Donovan to send a message, but that just means you will be inconsisent.

    By all means, support a primary opponent to your Congressman (I assume he voted with Trump on the Omnibus), run yourself if you want, but you will be a fraud if you are not opposing Trump’s renomination in 2020, assuming he runs.

  823. NYCmike says:

    “A year from now, smart money is that Pelosi (or someone like her but younger) will be Speaker, so you are going to miss the days of Ryan and McConnell then.”

    -Of course Ryan and McConnell are better than Pelosi.

    That is a pretty low bar for happiness.

    I see that you don’t expect much out of your representatives.

    Explains Hastert a little more.

  824. CG says:

    Again, in September, there was a much better bill that Ryan and McConnell wanted Trump to sign, but he deliberately blew them off and cut a deal *alone* with Chuck and Nancy.

    Just the three of them.

    You praised it on here at the time.

    This is the continuing result of that action in September.

  825. NYCmike says:

    “run yourself if you want, but you will be a fraud if you are not opposing Trump’s renomination in 2020, assuming he runs.”

    -That is a stupid leap.

    Kasich – if he wants the Paris Accords, do I vote for him?

    Flake – if he wants more open-ended DACA babies, do I vote for him?

    JEB! – If he wants to treat the media as friends, do I vote for him?

    CRUZ – well, I know he has voted correctly on just about everything so far

  826. CG says:

    Hastert was never my representative except in the district where I went to college and he was an effective, conservative Speaker. Who knew he had such personal shame in past? Certainly not you.

    You are experiencing today what it feels like to be a committed conservative Republican who is opposed to Donald Trump on principle.

    Even if you can’t agree, maybe you can understand it a bit more.

    I have “higher expectation” out of a President than what you have been telling me I should settle for.

  827. NYCmike says:

    “You praised it on here at the time.”

    -Do you “praise” G-D the same way?

    If so, HE can’t hear you.

  828. CG says:

    What’s a DACA baby?

    That may be a brand-new term.

    You are just looking for any excuse you can to stay nuzzled to DJT’s bosom. I know this is hard for you.

  829. CG says:

    I know the difference between DJT and G-d.

  830. CG says:

    Whether it’s the Paris Accords or DACA or not calling the media the enemy of the people, or whatever, you will have to decide if that means less or more to you than this bill you claim is upsetting you so much today.

    For now, it still seems like Trump has a deep, deep hold on you.

  831. NYCmike says:

    “You are experiencing today what it feels like to be a committed conservative Republican who is opposed to Donald Trump on principle.”

    -B*llsh*t.

    I have felt this before, several times, during the Bush years, 1989-1992, and 2001-2008.

    Very similar feelings, let down by Trump, and by Congress, both sides of whom I have blamed.

    YOU, on the other hand, have NOT BLAMED Congress, and would NOT look to get rid of the people, in a primary, who wrote a bill like this with Democrats.

  832. CG says:

    I’m more upset at other stuff Republicans in Congress have done than this.

    and I will support getting rid of a lot of the current members.

    But you are so inconsistent. If you insist that a President and Congress must be viewed as complete “co-equals”, then you and the others here who are attacking the Republican leaders are doing exactly what Robbie and I do to Trump.

  833. Tina says:

    Yeag conservative, bushie.

    Lol

  834. NYCmike says:

    You can’t stop making it about Trump.

    It is no different than 2006.

    Trump was nowhere to be found.

    Congressional Republicans, along with Dubya, acted like Democrats.

    We saw the result.

    Trump is NOT the problem. He ain’t the solution, and never thought he was.

    I did think, foolishly, that Trump ALONG WITH Congressional Republicans, could act in a way that was way different than this.

  835. Tina says:

    Bush blew up iraq and the me.

    Soent a ton on a cesspool.

    Medicare part d.

    Ncld,

    Patriot act

    Trump,could be heading that way

  836. Tina says:

    more upset at other stuff Republicans in Congress have done than this.

    Yeah we know..

  837. CG says:

    McConnell is not up in 2018, since you only want to talk about 2018.

    Ryan is up for reelection and his only opponent, the same guy that ran and got crushed last time, is now such an avid and vocal anti-Semite and white nationalist that even Breitbart has cut ties with him. You can look it up.

    So, should that person beat Ryan up one district north of me across the border? Or is Ryan still the better option in WI 1?

    If there was a mainstream conservative challenging Ryan who opposed Trump and criticized Ryan for being a Trump enabler, I’d support that person.

  838. Tina says:

    Paris accords.

    Quittens was for it.

    Would have cost us $4trillion.

  839. NYCmike says:

    “If you insist that a President and Congress must be viewed as complete “co-equals”, ”

    -I do NOT insist on this.

    They all have checks on each other, BUT in certain areas, they definitely have more power than the other.

    Foreign policy is mainly controlled by the Executive.

    LEGISLATION – guess who has the main power??

  840. Tina says:

    The most conservative president is obama,

    Jebot

  841. Tina says:

    Mcdonnels is a key person to be talking about.

    2010

    He always helps blow up the budget.

    Hhrers always say we cannot do a shut down.

    Blah, blah, blah.

  842. CG says:

    Now, you believe “foreign policy is mainly controlled by the Executive” after spending years acting like the Iran Deal was Corker’s fault.

    Progress.

  843. Tina says:

    Congress dumped this sheot bill on trump.

    They did not do the cr.

    They fled for their two week vacation.

    So, nothing could be done to correct this. If ryano and mitchie were steong, it would have been done.

  844. CG says:

    Does Congress have the physical power to put a pen in the President’s tiny right hand and move his arms so his name appears on a piece of paper?

  845. Tina says:

    Mullah Corker.

  846. NYCmike says:

    What am I arguing with you for?

    I need to check out which stocks I am going to buy since the market has come back a little.

    You worry about Trump.

    I will worry about the next dividend check, and if I should re-invest or not.

    Also, rates may be going up again, so maybe I should take out a 2nd mortgage now, and purchase that rental property.

    Have at President Trump, sport. Enjoy yourself.

    Cheers.

  847. Tina says:

    Fleeing after they aided Scumbag and piglosi.

    Failures.

    Lets remove them.

  848. CG says:

    Now, answer one question for me please NYC, and then I will be off to wish you a nice weekend..

    Whom should Republicans in WI vote for in this year’s primary?

    Paul D. Ryan or Paul Nehlen?

    No cop outs allowed. This isn’t a complicated piece of legislation that needs to be studied.

  849. Tina says:

    Ppl

    Yield 6 percent.

    I give you a tip.

  850. Tina says:

    R move ryano and mitchie from leadership and the hhr faux cons will have heart attacks.

    I get it.

  851. NYCmike says:

    “Does Congress have the physical power to put a pen in the President’s tiny right hand and move his arms so his name appears on a piece of paper?”

    -No, which is why I said Trump acted horribly.

    The same in reverse: does Trump have the physical power in his little hands to make Republcians write such terrible legislation?

    SHAMEFUL, and PITIFUL, on both sides.

    People like you, and Robbie, give them cover to do it.

  852. NYCmike says:

    Thanks Tina, I have been looking into it.

  853. CG says:

    Yes, a President does have a lot of influence over members of his own party when writing a budget. That’s always how it works, especially when this one may Tweet about them when they stand in his way.

    Trump’s Budget guy yesterday said he was “looking forward” to signing the bill, so McConnell and Ryan had to assume he got exactly what he wanted on the military stuff and everything else.

  854. Tina says:

    I like the divident, but it is conservstive utility co.

    Consistent dividend history.

    Boring for the yute.

  855. Tina says:

    Ryano and mitchie should step down,

    They failed.

  856. CG says:

    So, none of us can vote against Paul Ryan. None of us can vote against Mitch McConnell (except Robbie) but all of us can vote against Donald Trump in favor of someone more conservative or honorable. (Hillary won’t be on the primary ballot)

    If someone isn’t willing to do that, they really have no grounds to complain on this.

  857. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    If Trump was not President, they would NOT have written this law……is that what you are saying?

    Why would you defend people that are so weak?

  858. Tina says:

    Too bad the line item is not allowed.

    Time for trump to go nuclear.

    End the obama exchanges for congress.

    End daca.

  859. Tina says:

    If we institute hillary, it would be great.

    Jebot

  860. NYCmike says:

    Cruz/Paul/Lee/Cotton in the Senate.

    HFC in the House.

    There’s your leadership.

    What policies would they try to enact that you would be against?

  861. CG says:

    Correct.

    Hey, I criticized them for being so weak to not kick him out of the party in 2016 and every time they excuse or enable him.

    But again, please answer my question. Who is more worthy of a primary vote in WI, Ryan or Nehlen?

  862. CG says:

    I gotta go, I’m sure ill see the answer later..

  863. Tina says:

    Notice how the drat will not blame ryano or mitchie.

    They have justified these teo clowns since 2010, or the bohner the cigarette and alchy.

  864. Tina says:

    Surprised they did not filibuster.

    They passed it and fled like wimps.

  865. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    To primary Ryan is not an option, as we all know.

    Remove him from leadership.

    I repeat my question: “What policies would they, a leadership of the HFC, and Cruz/Lee/Paul, try to enact that you would be against?

  866. Chicon says:

    CG is not conservative.
    CG is not a Republican.

  867. NYCmike says:

    Chicon,

    The more I read, the more I agree.

    He is hiding behind Trump’s very stupid action taken today.

  868. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    855. Tina says:
    Paris accords. Quittens was for it. Would have cost us $4 trillion.

    How? Everyone is ignoring the treaty; it was just virtue signaling. If Trump had said he supports the treaty, it would have made no difference. Carbon emissions are going up, except in the U.S. and to a lesser extent Europe:

    “The latest analysis projects that CO2 emissions in the United States and the European Union will continue to decline — by 0.4% and 0.2%, respectively, in 2017 — although at a slower pace than in recent years. And emissions growth in India is set to slow, rising by just 2% this year, compared with an average of 6% per year over the past decade.
    But the picture is very different in China, which produces nearly 26% of the world’s output of CO2. This year, the country’s emissions of the greenhouse gas are expected to surge by 3.5%, to 10.5 billion tonnes. The main causes are increased activity at the country’s factories and reduced hydroelectric-energy production, the Global Carbon Project analysis finds.”

  869. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump owns this as much as Ryan and McConnell.

  870. NYCmike says:

    “Trump owns this as much as Ryan and McConnell.”

    -A-Hole,

    Who said that he didn’t own it as much as the others?

    Judge the others by the same standards as you judge Trump.

  871. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina isn’t blaming Trump.

  872. Bitterlaw says:

    I am watching a complete meltdown in a Facebook group. Trumpers are arguing that Trump has no responsibility at all because he is a true conservative.

  873. Tina says:

    Bitter liar.

  874. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina rants about Ryan and McConnell. No rant about Trump. Draw your own conclusion.

  875. NYCmike says:

    “Tina isn’t blaming Trump.”

    -And the rest of you are not blaming Congress, the people who write the bills.

    In 2010-2016, it was always “Obama will Veto legislation.” I said “send it anyway, make him Veto it.”. You would reply “Send a message, tell a story”.

    NOW – I say “Send the most conservative legislation possible, the same bills Obama would veto, Trump will sign them”. Congress doesn’t.

    Bitterlaw – Nothing said about Congress.

    Instead, we get this bill written, which Obama would have signed. Trump signs it.

    ALL to blame for this horrible bill. Terrible.*

    Note: Brat, congressperson from VA, primaried Cantor, and defeated him. He voted AGAINST. That is the type of Republican we want in Congress.

    Campaigned in one way, governed in the same way.

  876. Tina says:

    Bitter liar lies a little less that the clinton groupie.

  877. Tina says:

    Tina says:
    March 23, 2018 at 7:22 pm
    Everybody is to blame.

    You should gloat since the ds w

  878. Bitterlaw says:

    Show me where you blamed Trump, Tina.

  879. Tina says:

    Tina says:
    March 23, 2018 at 6:52 pm
    Why did the congress recess?

    Why did the negotiate this with ds and allow no amendments,

    Trump deserves criticism, but so does the r congress,

  880. Tina says:

    Tina says:
    March 23, 2018 at 7:36 pm
    I think the only recourse now is to change out ryano and mitchie.

    If trump does it again, then he coukd get primaried,

    But stronger congressional leaderahip is needed.

    Do you see primaried?

  881. Bitterlaw says:

    “Criticism” for Trump versus full on blame for Ryan and McConnell. Got it.

  882. Tina says:

    I sqid primaried.

    Plenty of criticism

    Everybody is to blame.

    Fault and blame are synonymous.

    I feel like Wes, correcting the lawyah, who is mostly good.

  883. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Trump is up for election in 2020. Congress, on the other hand, is this year.

    You don’t see that Congress is the entity more urgent in terms of catching blame?

    Trump will have plenty of time to catch criticism, blame, full on or otherwise.

  884. Tina says:

    Btw, do you have ppl utility, philky aholes.

  885. Chicon says:

    Bitter, how about some blame for each? They all play a role in the process, from what I hear.

  886. Tina says:

    I blame mitchie most, then ryano, and then trump.

    They have been here longer than trump.

    Mitchie especially doing these backroom deals.

    If trump does this again, let him be primaried.

    I said with the first cr we woukd be screwed in the end,

    Sorry, for being too right.

  887. Tina says:

    If trump were here longer than mitchie, or ryano. I woukd say that trump is more to blame.

    At this point trumo is very likely to lose the house now and rs are demoralized,

    This is a big blow,

    But not unexpected.

  888. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – You said Trump COULD get primaried. You did not say he SHOULD get primaried. See the difference?

  889. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    For the last year, you have had a deranged Robbie crying DOOM all because of Trump.

    Up until now, I resisted that assessment, because I did not think Trumps personal issues would make such a bad mark.

    AFTER THIS TERRIBLE LEGISLATION, I do believe Congress could be lost, especially the House. NOT because of Trump’s personal issues.

    I think it can be lost because he signed terrible legislation, and because Republicans who were elected to do certain things did the exact opposite, including sending this legislation to be signed.

    What will make voters come out in droves to vote if they don’t think the people they vote for will change anything?

    The bill today was just more of the same from the last 18 years.

  890. NYCmike says:

    “Tina – You said Trump COULD get primaried. You did not say he SHOULD get primaried. See the difference?”

    -Do you not understand 2018 vs 2020??

    How dense are you?

  891. Tina says:

    Where the clinton groupied erred is the fact that no cr was done. Also, you could shut the gubment down, if the freaking kosahs were not on break for 2 weeks.

    With the two other shutdowns, at best, we drawed with the ds.

  892. NYCmike says:

    “Btw, do you have ppl utility, philky aholes.”

    -Heh, I was just going to ask that!

  893. Tina says:

    Bl, you are moving goalposts, just like the jebot and the clinton groupie.

  894. Tina says:

    Ok nyc. I lied about ppl.

    Yield is 5.8, ot 6.

    Or 6 when rounded.

  895. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I know it hurts that President More Reagan than Reagan betrayed your trust today but try to hold it together. I never expected anything of Trump beyond beating Hillary.

  896. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Trump did NOT surprise me today. I have said this repeatedly. He made a terrible decision.

    Why do you insist on saying stupid things like “President More Reagan than Reagan”? Does that change the fact that the actions today could lead to lower turnout, which would lead to a loss of the House?

    Does that matter to you at all?

  897. Bitterlaw says:

    Is PPL a stock? If so, it changed to Duke Energy

  898. NYCmike says:

    ” I never expected anything of Trump beyond beating Hillary.”

    -Exactly.

    My hope was that a conservative Republican Congress would feed him conservative Republican legislation.

    We got a tax cut out of it, and that is about it. No spending restraint, no legislation against sanctuary cities, no immigration reform, no Planned Parenthood deletion or at the least, severe curtailment.

    Congress has done OK on judges and cabinet members, but they have still been very slow about it.

  899. Tina says:

    Yes,

    PPL Corporation (PPL)
    NYSE – NYSE Delayed Price. Currency in USD
    Add to watchlist

    27.13-0.19 (-0.70%)
    At close: 4:00PM EDT
    27.25 +0.12 (0.44%)
    After hours: 7:45PM EDT

    Not owned by duke energy, but they may not ot be your provider.

  900. Tina says:

    Description

    PPL Corporation, a utility holding company, delivers electricity and natural gas in the United States and the United Kingdom. The company operates in three segments: U.K. Regulated, Kentucky Regulated, and Pennsylvania Regulated. It serves 411,000 electric and 326,000 natural gas customers in Louisville and adjacent areas in Kentucky; 525,000 customers in central, southeastern, and western Kentucky; and approximately 28,000 customers in 5 counties in southwestern Virginia, and 3 customers in Tennessee. The company also provides electric delivery services to approximately 1.4 million customers in Pennsylvania; and operates electricity distribution networks in the United Kingdom, as well as delivers natural gas to customers in Kentucky; generates electricity from power plants in Kentucky; and sells wholesale electricity to 10 municipalities in Kentucky. PPL Corporation was founded in 1920 and is headquartered in Allentown, Pennsylvania.

    It provides electicty to hhrs basement dweller.

  901. NYCmike says:

    “” I never expected anything of Trump beyond beating Hillary.””

    -To go on, for a year I was pleasantly surprised.

    Tariffs were an issue this year, but as we saw with both Reagan and Dubya, not fatal.

    Bad legislation like this…….oh boy! Tough to rebound.

  902. Tina says:

    They are in pa and ky, but again may not service your area.

    Not sure who they service in pa.

  903. Bitterlaw says:

    After all the posts about Trump being More Reagan than Reagan Reagan I find it interesting to confirm that he is not a conservative.

    Anybody who chooses to not vote for the GOP this year out of spite is a moron.

  904. Tina says:

    We can reverse the election and give it to hillary.

    Jebot

  905. Tina says:

    Well for year 1 he was a lot like regulation,

    With this billm he is more like mute 43

    Very disappointing.

  906. Tina says:

    A lot like reagan, year one.

    Year two not much.

    Anyway, i will start my 7 day cruise. No more comments from me for awhile.

    I do not tweet from the Lido Deck.

  907. NYCmike says:

    “Anybody who chooses to not vote for the GOP this year out of spite is a moron.”

    -Bitterlaw,

    How about the independents?

    Why would they stick with Republicans this year? Or make the effort to come out?

    What will be the BIG difference in bills coming out of the House for them?

  908. Bitterlaw says:

    I have PECO. There was a Pennsylvania Power and Light (PPL) years ago that became part of Carolina Power that became Duke.

  909. NYCmike says:

    “After all the posts about Trump being More Reagan than Reagan Reagan”

    -Those were your posts, not mine.

    Take Mr. vito to task for sharing all those links about tariffs put on by Reagan’s administration.

  910. Bitterlaw says:

    Independents who vote for Dems are morons, too.

  911. Bitterlaw says:

    I never posted a single link comparing Trump favorably to Reagan.

  912. NYCmike says:

    “Independents who vote for Dems are morons, too.”

    -Well, the bill today gives good cover to a lot of morons, similar to 2006.

  913. NYCmike says:

    Unless you are just interested in sending a message, those “morons” are needed to win elections.

    Legislation like today will drive them away.

  914. Hugh says:

    925. Because the dems are worse. Way worse.

  915. NYCmike says:

    Hugh,

    The mushy middle (Bitterlaw calls them morons) elected Obama, and then Trump.

    This bill was a Yuge mistake, signing it, but also writing it.

    And the ones that wrote it and passed it are the ones in the immediate crosshairs. The one who signed it can rebound by 2020.

  916. janz says:

    So, what could the POTUS have done to deter or do last minute changes to this Omnibus Bill?

    Yeah, he could have vetoed it, like he threatened to do. But, if he had done that, what would have been accomplished?

    Surely, the govt would have shut down, as so many Congress people had already fled town for their endless vacations. When they came back, most would have been pissed, as they thought the WH was on board with their budget machinations, and probably would have had the votes to override the president’s veto (just look at the almost 2/3 number who passed the bill).

    If there wasn’t enough to override the veto, how obliging is this group of dems and elite, never-Trump republicans going to be to fairly “fix” the bill — eliminating unnecessary expenditures, keeping the military funded, and funding border security as it should be funded?

    IMO, Congress is simply too fractured, too self-serving, and more interested in political posturing than implementing good, long term solutions to decrease our debt. Heck, most congress people don’t even seem that concerned about our deficit or debt!

    However, what I do give credit to the president for was facing the public with an opening line that his main priority was to keep the country safe. Hence, he reasoned the military increases were vital and had priority over all the other disappointments associated with the Omnibus.

    It wasn’t an excuse, but more of an explanation. Frankly, though, people will equally blame the president and Congress, as the dems and the resistance cheers all those who are bitterly disgruntled, encouraging them to either vote dem, or not at all, as a panacea to assuage today’s disappointments and as a punishing payback to being jerked around.

    Of course, what good will that accomplish?

  917. Wes says:

    NYCmike says:
    March 23, 2018 at 9:29 pm
    ” I never expected anything of Trump beyond beating Hillary.”

    -Exactly.

    My hope was that a conservative Republican Congress would feed him conservative Republican legislation.

    We got a tax cut out of it, and that is about it. No spending restraint, no legislation against sanctuary cities, no immigration reform, no Planned Parenthood deletion or at the least, severe curtailment.

    Congress has done OK on judges and cabinet members

    Hey, Mikey, maybe Aaron Day and Roy Moore shouldn’t have cost Republicans valuable Senate seats and decreased their leverage in the Senate to try to get things done.

  918. Wes says:

    I just love how Deadenders got Mike Bennet, Claire McCaskill, Joe Donnelly, Chris Coons, Tammy Baldwin, Heidi Heitkamp, Maggie Hassan, and Doug Jones elected to the Senate and now bitch when a Senate with a bare GOP majority passes a spending bill supported by Dems.

    There’s a logical disconnect in there somewhere.

  919. Walt says:

    Bitter.

    I already have an antenna…just no cable.

    Wife got the WVU-Villnova game on her ipad…watched the first half and was pleased WVU was still in it despite a poor start.

    Went to garage to smoke at half time, came back in and WVU was up by 5. By the time I got the game on my laptop WVU was down by 8.

    Villy went on a big run…WVU not play well consistently…I am disappointed at the outcome, but I am a stoic West Virginian. What cannot kill me makes me stronger.
    *************************
    And thanks to Cash Cow doing the dusting, etc. I was able to get a lot done…pond filter, recycling, feed birds, fix vacuum cleaner, fiddle with snowblower (making odd noise and vibrating..something obviously out of kilter) took cover off and fiddled with it…beyond my ability to repair.

  920. Bitterlaw says:

    Any independent who votes for a Dem is really a Dem ashamed to admit it.

  921. Wes says:

    I’m an Indy, Bitter. I would have voted for Hillary had JEB! been the GOP nominee. Would I have been a Dem ashamed to admit it for that?

  922. Walt says:

    On November 1, 2016 about 62% of people felt the U.S. was heading in the wrong direction.

    Today that number is only 56% who feel we are heading in the wrong direction.

    Do we say electing DJT made an improvement?

  923. JeffP says:

    This spending bill is a disgrace. Trump officially became a true politician today…he sold his soul to someone…

  924. MichiganGuy says:

    @924 Tina, have fun on your cruise.

  925. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Once you vote for a Dem you can’t comeback. Don’t forget that I do not believe in redemption.

  926. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt – WV played incredible defense. They were the team that I worried about the most. Villanova was lucky to get on a roll at the end.

  927. MichiganGuy says:

    Michigan
    .
    Governor – Republican Primary:
    .
    Schuette 27%
    Calley 18%
    Colbeck 7%
    Hines 3%
    Undecided 45%
    .
    Senate – Republican Primary:
    .
    Pensler 21%
    James 17%
    Undecided 62%
    .
    Strategic National 3/19-20
    .
    http://strategicnational.com/michigan-statewide-gop-primary-poll-results/

  928. MichiganGuy says:

    Generic Congressional Ballot:
    .
    Democrats 40% (+3)
    Republicans 37%
    .
    Reuters/Ipsos, RV, 3/16-20
    .
    https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/reuters-ipsos-data-core-political-2018-03-21

  929. MichiganGuy says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    March 23, 2018 at 11:52 pm

    Wes – Once you vote for a Dem you can’t comeback. Don’t forget that I do not believe in redemption.
    ————————————————————————————————————————
    Wes, should feel very comfortable in the democrat party. They act superior to everyone else, they treat women like sex objects and they hate conservative Christians.

  930. jason says:

    Tina talks about faux conservatives.

    I have news for Tina.

    The biggest faux conservative is Trump.

    Anybody who thinks Trump is more conservative than Ryan or McConnell is smoking some really good sh-t.

  931. NYCmike says:

    Yes, the writers of that bill are direct descendants of Madison and Hamilton and Jay.

  932. Bitterlaw says:

    President More Reagan than Reagan really let NYC down. That is the danger of nominating a Democrat finder of Schumer and Hillary to run as the Republican nominee. At least we have Gorsuch.

  933. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking news – Neurolists baffled over why President Mote Reagan than Reagan’s hand suddenly signed bill against his will.

  934. jason says:

    The AFL-CIO conservatives are upset Trump is not really a conservative.

    I guess the “but he governs as a conservative” is out the window too.

  935. jason says:

    Trump officially became a true politician today”

    LOL

    Another deluded conservative that didn’t really believe it when Trump said during the campaign that “he was the king of debt” and that deficits didn’t matter because “you print the money”.

  936. Truther says:

    I see that this site’s pink pusee brigade is trying to state that President Trump is not a conservative because he signed the bill, while ignoring and justifying Republican failed leadership in Congress.

    With respect to this bill, neither party is conservative.

  937. jason says:

    The AFL-CIO conservatives are shocked that Trump is funding Planned Parenthood?

    I guess they didn’t listen to Trump during the campaign when he paid tribute to Planned Parenthood’s “very good work for millions of women” and had gotten “thousands of letters from women who had been helped by Planned Parenthood” and that he recognized his position was “not a perfect conservative view’

  938. jason says:

    “is trying to state that President Trump is not a conservative”

    Trying?

    No, I am stating that Trump was never a conservative.

  939. jason says:

    And now we can dump the “but he governs as a conservative” too.

    But if it serves as any consolation, he is still better than Hillary.

  940. jason says:

    I will also take some points for the “pink pusee brigade” comment.

    I know, sigh, will have to split them with Bitter.

  941. Truther says:

    The Republican Leadership is also not conservative.

    Take your stupid points but you stil suck.

  942. jason says:

    A Houston grand jury indicted Bennett on a felony charge of injury of the elderly, stemming from an incident at last year’s Super Bowl. The charge carries a penalty of up to 10 years in prison and a $10,000 fine.”

    Bitter to say he doesn’t care as long as Bennett keeps making tackles in 3, 2, 1…

  943. jason says:

    The Republican Leadership is also not conservative.”

    They are actually Republicans AND conservatives.

    But I am sure if you replace them with liberal Dems it will help the conservative cause.

  944. jason says:

    Take your stupid points but you stil suck.”

    More points? Thanks.

    The deadender is feeling generous.

  945. jason says:

    Anybody who thinks Trump is more conservative than Ryan or McConnell is smoking some really good sh-t”

    Truther lit up early….

  946. dblaikie says:

    I agree Jason, Trump is a pragmatist who leans conservative and who realizes who is his base. Frankly, I don’t understand why he signed the omnibus bill? I guess we have three choices: 1 He really meant what he said about the funding for the military. 2 He is playing a hand which we don’t see yet. 3. He just got plain snookered by the establishment.

  947. Wes says:

    Elmer Gantry is obviously unaware of my support for conservative Christians such as Richard Burr, Kristi Noem, Mia Love, and Bill Cassidy.

  948. Wes says:

    By the way, Elmer, since you pinned your hopes for American theocracy on Roy Moore, how’d that work out for you?

  949. Truther says:

    The brigade cannot read. Maybe, it is time for poster Jason to tag in the pusee brigade’s chief lawyer.

    NEITHER IS CONSERVATIVE

  950. jason says:

    dblaikie

    Probably a combination of all 3.

    I think he made a political calculus that a government shutdown was not in his interest, which I actually agree with.

    He also said beforehand that he would sign the bill so he was boxed into a corner, and he might have even caused the bill to be worse by saying that, since essentially he wrote Congress a blank check.

    I actually don’t see any of this as the end of the world, but I enjoy seeing the AFL-CIO conservative meltdown.

  951. Walt says:

    UMWA endorses Sen. Manchin (D), Congressman McKinley (R)

  952. jason says:

    NEITHER IS CONSERVATIVE”

    I see.

    How many “true conservatives” are there in Congress?

    10? 20? 40?

    In the Senate?

    5? 10?

    I mean, 100% litmus tested and guaranteed to vote according to what you think is conservative?

  953. Tina says:

    You see.

    Great.

  954. dblaikie says:

    I have to chuckle at the term AFL-CIO Conservative — talk about a contradiction in terms. While I chuckle I hope that Trump is just using his tariffs as a threat and a bargaining tool in his trade negotiations. At his one question press conference he sort of hinted that was the case as he said a number of one nation trade agreements were close to finishing.

  955. Wes says:

    Christine O’Donnell and Roy Moore are true conservatives, Jason. At least I’ve had the Deadenders tell me that.

  956. Tina says:

    I enjoy seeing the meltdown of the pink pusee brigade.

  957. jason says:

    Looks like the “true conservatives” are abandoning Trump.

    I wonder who their candidate for President will be.

    It could be nobody will qualify and they will have to forfeit.

  958. Wes says:

    Maybe Pat Buchanan is their candidate.

  959. Tina says:

    Who is the leader of the pink pusee brigade here?

    Cg, Rottie, the chief lawyer? Who?

  960. Wes says:

    I have it!

    Al Salvi can be the next “true conservative” candidate for President.

    He’d be perfect.

  961. jason says:

    wes, I forgot.

    Yes, they could run COD or Roy Moore.

    The fact COD is not much for personal responsibility and Roy Moore doesn’t believe in the Constitution can be overlooked as very minor faults.

  962. MichiganGuy says:

    Wes says:
    March 24, 2018 at 9:44 am

    MichiganGuy is obviously unaware of my support for conservative Christians such as Richard Burr, Kristi Noem, Mia Love, and Bill Cassidy.
    ————————————————————————————————————————
    ok grammar nazi so you don’t hate Christians but, I see you don’t deny acting superior to everyone else and treating women like sex objects. 🙄

  963. Wes says:

    Salvi for President 2020!

    Make America Illinois again!

  964. Tina says:

    Who is this truther person?

    I approve all nicknames here.

    I love the AFL-Cio Conservative term too,

    Anyway, returning to the cruise and I do have internet access, for the moment.

  965. Tina says:

    Good seing dblaikie here.

    Long time.

    Bye.

  966. jason says:

    Maybe the true conservatives can run a robot, completely pre programmed to take the true conservative position on every issue.

    They can name him Hal

    Oh wait…

  967. Wes says:

    Well, I am superior to the perennial election-losing theocrats, Elmer, and I do enjoy women. Make of that what uou wish.

  968. jason says:

    grammar nazi”

    Translation: I can’t spell and need to go back to grade school so I call others Nazis.

  969. Wes says:

    You*

    Apparently I typed too fast.

  970. Tina says:

    Bl, no hard feelings.

    I amend could primary trump to should primary trump, if he does one more omnibus bill.

    However, my complaints are about him and mitchie and Ryano.

    But your posts indicating that I did not fault trump, when I blamed him, were factually untrue.

  971. Wes says:

    He can spell fine, Jason. He just words his sentences as if he started learning English this morning.

  972. Tina says:

    And this is my last post. Have to enjoy the cruise.

    After omnibus, my blood pressure spiked. Given my high age, it is not good,

  973. MichiganGuy says:

    Jason, sorry I don’t use auto correct like you and grammar nazi. :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  974. Tina says:

    My parting gift tomthe jebots

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Trumpfan1995/status/977324508792147968/photo/1

    See ann coulter, who should not dress as a teenager, wants trump to be Impewched.

    The jebots can now throw their lot with Coulter.

  975. Wes says:

    Elmer Gantry enjoys playing the victim. I would expect nothing else from a stonecold theocrat and Roy Moore supporter.

  976. jason says:

    OJ throws Kaepernick under the bus.

    “I think Colin made a mistake,” Simpson told The News. “I really appreciate what he was trying to say. I thought he made a bad choice in attacking the flag.”

  977. jason says:

    “He just words his sentences as if he started learning English this morning.”

    Ah ok, then. I guess I shouldn’t be critical since I had almost a 40 year head start.

    And not sure MG is a he, sounds like a her to me. But you never know these days.

  978. jason says:

    UMWA endorses Sen. Manchin (D)

    Not a problem, the AFL-CIO conservatives here endorse the UMWA.

  979. jason says:

    I have a good line for Kaepernick if he wants to buy it.

    “I think OJ made a really bad choice murdering two people”

  980. Diamond Jim says:

    🙂

  981. Diamond Jim says:

    :p

  982. Diamond Jim says:

    M

  983. dblaikie says:

    Thanks, Tina!

  984. Robbie says:

    To all those who are upset Trump signed the omnibus bill yesterday, answer me this. Show me where Trump campaigned as a Tea Party fiscal conservative?

  985. Robbie says:

    Rasheed Limbaugh, the ayatollah of talk radio, was not happy with Trump yesterday. He mused about Trump riding back up the escalator and claimed the spending deal was aimed at ending Trump’s presidency. He’s even got video playing in reverse of Trump going back up the golden escalator on his website.

    Considering I believe Rush Limbaugh is fraud who simply goes where his audience leads, I don’t believe for a moment Rush has permanently broken with Trump. Nor do I believe the “real conservatives” have permanently broken with Trump either. More than likely, they’ll be back defending him Monday after the Stormy interview airs and other women start coming forward.

    I do think, though, this spending bill episode is a lot like the drama between GHWB and Newt in 1990. Newt double crossed GHWB and that lead to conservatives eventually breaking with GHWB on spending. And that, in turn, lead to the Buchanan primary challenge and the Perot independent run. From all of that, we got Clinton.

  986. dblaikie says:

    Robbie, the thing about you is this: you would hate him if he vetoed the bill and you hate Trump because he signed the bill. As far as Trump is concerned he could sign a peace accord where North Korea gets rid of their nukes, China signs a fair trade deal with America, Mexico builds the wall, the European Union thanks us for saving their butts over and over again since 1917 and you would still hate him. So the question is why should those of us who at least hope that his Presidency is successful even consider your posts?

    And by the way, as a clergy person who believes in redemption, I know that Donald Trump has a past were he didn’t think much about morality. But now at least he is trying to do good things like appoint judges who care about the life and the Constitution. However Stormy Daniels is still just a porn star, on her “Make America Horny Tour” and frankly I don’t care about what she has to say. Maybe she could take all the money she is going to make on her sordid encounter with Trump and give it to a worthy cause that makes America a little more caring and less horny. But of course for you hatred for Trump trumps everything. Have a nice day.

  987. Bitterlaw says:

    I am at a Bat Mitzvah today. I wore a yarmulke even though my wife said I did not have to because I am not Jewish. I wanted to embrace my inner Corey.

  988. jason says:

    You should always wear a yarmulke in a synagogue as a sign of respect, it doesn’t make you Jewish.

  989. jason says:

    If Trump found the cure for cancer the amoral scumbag would say he was overpopulating the world.

  990. jason says:

    Nice post dblaikie, I am not in the clergy so its not untoward for me to say you tore the amoral scumbag a new a-hole.

  991. jason says:

    Nor do I believe the “real conservatives” have permanently broken with Trump either.”

    They would be stupid to do so, although I am not impressed by the political acumen of “real conservatives” either.

    Permanently breaking with Trump would ensure a Democratic majority for the next 50 years.

    There is no “alternative” to Trump, that bridge was crossed when he got nominated for President.

    Unless you want to overturn the results of the election like the amoral scumbag does.

  992. jason says:

    Trump’s approval among Republicans is like 90%.

    It might drop a bit with the omnibus bill, but it won’t be permanent, you read it here first.

  993. jason says:

    Hundreds of thousands marching to give away their second amendment rights.

    Sad…..

  994. dblaikie says:

    Thanks Jason. I still have not figured out if Robbie is a real person, or just someone having fun with a made up idiot.

  995. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – I will continue my strong support of the 2d Amendment by not buying a gun today.

  996. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    March 24, 2018 at 11:48 am
    Robbie, the thing about you is this: you would hate him if he vetoed the bill and you hate Trump because he signed the bill. As far as Trump is concerned he could sign a peace accord where North Korea gets rid of their nukes, China signs a fair trade deal with America, Mexico builds the wall, the European Union thanks us for saving their butts over and over again since 1917 and you would still hate him. So the question is why should those of us who at least hope that his Presidency is successful even consider your posts?
    And by the way, as a clergy person who believes in redemption, I know that Donald Trump has a past were he didn’t think much about morality. But now at least he is trying to do good things like appoint judges who care about the life and the Constitution. However Stormy Daniels is still just a porn star, on her “Make America Horny Tour” and frankly I don’t care about what she has to say. Maybe she could take all the money she is going to make on her sordid encounter with Trump and give it to a worthy cause that makes America a little more caring and less horny. But of course for you hatred for Trump trumps everything. Have a nice day.

    – LOL

    I thought Trump made the correct decision to sign the bill and said so.

    As for you being a member of the clergy, then you should know that redemption comes only after someone confesses their sins and asks for forgiveness. Trump has never done that. Not once.

    You might be willing to rationalize Trump’s lifestyle since he’s appointing judges you like, but that’s not redemption. That’s simply you looking the other way because he’s giving you something you want. There’s no redemption involved in that process. It’s transactional and nothing more.

    If you want to support Trump because of judges, great. It’s actually a legitimate reason to support the daily sewage that comes from his White House. But don’t claim that Trump appointing Neil Gorsuch or other judges somehow redeems him for his multiple affairs he’s conducted.

    Only Trump admitting his mistakes and changing his lifestyle can earn him redemption. As a member of the cloth, you should know that.

  997. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 24, 2018 at 12:37 pm
    Nice post dblaikie, I am not in the clergy so its not untoward for me to say you tore the amoral scumbag a new a-hole.

    – I wouldn’t expect Jason fraud to know this since he now lives inside Trump’s bowels, but redemption from sin does not come from appointing judges who care about life or the Constitution. Redemption comes only after someone has confessed their sins and asked for forgiveness. Trump has never done that.

    What dblaikie is describing is a transactional relationship where he is willing to look past Trump’s behavior so long as Trump keeps his word on judges or some other issue. Redemption is something completely different.

  998. Tina says:

    Bl, i am on the Lido Deck tweeting and posting.

    My flight to floriduh, through Sheotcago, took 7 hours. Blame rain at the airport in San Fran and the pilot timed out, so a new crew came from Denver. United Airlines needs to go out of business,

    The homeland insecurity worker in san fran spoke minimal English. For a moment, i thought I was in a turd world countey,

    O smell airport in Sheotcago still smells like sheot. I recommend not flying to o smell.

    Floriduh is much nicer…

    I am here bareky in time for my cruise.

    I have not traveled in years. So, I will not be travelling anytime soon.

  999. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 24, 2018 at 12:41 pm
    Nor do I believe the “real conservatives” have permanently broken with Trump either.”
    They would be stupid to do so, although I am not impressed by the political acumen of “real conservatives” either.
    Permanently breaking with Trump would ensure a Democratic majority for the next 50 years.
    There is no “alternative” to Trump, that bridge was crossed when he got nominated for President.
    Unless you want to overturn the results of the election like the amoral scumbag does.

    – Republicans broke with Nixon in 1974 and just six years later the country elected Ronald Reagan and scores of conservative House and Senate members. In fact, breaking with a corrupt Nixon didn’t ensure permanent Democrat majorities. It paved the way for a new conservative majority from which we still benefit today.

  1000. Tina says:

    Axios
    @axios
    Hogg: “After we come back from Spring Break, they’re requiring us all to have clear backpacks…it’s unnecessary. It’s embarrassing for a lot of the students.” #Axios360
    Show this thread

    More hogg please.

  1001. Robbie says:

    And by the way, lets see just how strongly Republicans support Trump after the elections in November. If it goes the way I expect right now, I doubt his approval with the party will anywhere close to 90% when 2019 starts or the 2020 process really gets rolling.

    In the lead up to the 2006 elections, all of the polling showed GWB was receiving around 90% support from self-identified Republicans. After the election was over and Republicans were creamed, GWB’s support within the party began to crumble. As a result, his overall approval dropped into the 30’s and never recovered.

    It’s just a guess, but right now I suspect a lot of Republicans who are supporting Trump in the polling are supporting him because Republicans are supporting a Republican president.

  1002. dblaikie says:

    Robbie, I don’t like responding to your posts for the reasons I stated above. But I will this time. Please don’t lecture me about redemption. Trumps actions were in the past and for those actions he needed to repent to his family and God, but not to the great mob. Since then, unlike the porn star, he has endeavored to change in a positive way. Those actions are redemptive. Finally since you want to change into a theologian please understand that at least in the Christian faith the only one who can offer redemption is God in Christ. It is only through His grace that we are redeemed even though none of us deserve it.

  1003. dblaikie says:

    And by the way, Trump claims he didn’t do the things Ms. Clifford accuses him of. Since she is making the accusation about something that happened a decade ago the burden of proof is on her. In other words, as we learned in Civics the accused is innocent until proven guilty.

    However, President Trump has done enough in his past that is on the record that, he needed to ask forgiveness from his family and his God.

  1004. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    France has some of the strictest gun control laws in the world, and as the recent terrorist shooting proves, they do not work:

    “French police reportedly seized more than 1,500 illegal weapons in 2009 and no fewer than 2,700 in 2010. The number of illegal guns in France has swollen by double-digit percentages annually for several years, Al Jazeera reported, citing figures from Paris-based National Observatory for Delinquency.

    The seizures likely made just a tiny dent in the pool of available weapons. “The fact that a Kalashnikov or a rocket launcher can be acquired for as little as 300 to 700 Euros in some parts of the EU indicates their ready availability for [organized crime groups], street gangs or groups orchestrating high-profile attacks resulting in significant numbers of casualties,” Europol, the EU’s law-enforcement agency, explained in a policy brief.”

  1005. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1019. “It’s just a guess, but right now I suspect a lot of Republicans who are supporting Trump in the polling are supporting him because Republicans are supporting a Republican president.”

    Yet a lot of congressional Republicans, like Flake, do not have wide support among Republicans, so am not sure party label along explains Trump’s strong Republican support.

  1006. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina- Enjoy your trip.

  1007. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Has any president ever been elected based on their personal morality? I cannot think of one off-hand. After Bill Clinton’s escapades (and Kennedy’s for that matter), think the Democrats are going to have a hard time making it an issue against Trump.

  1008. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    March 24, 2018 at 1:53 pm
    Robbie, I don’t like responding to your posts for the reasons I stated above. But I will this time. Please don’t lecture me about redemption. Trumps actions were in the past and for those actions he needed to repent to his family and God, but not to the great mob. Since then, unlike the porn star, he has endeavored to change in a positive way. Those actions are redemptive. Finally since you want to change into a theologian please understand that at least in the Christian faith the only one who can offer redemption is God in Christ. It is only through His grace that we are redeemed even though none of us deserve it.

    – Spare me. As a Catholic, I’m well aware from where redemption comes. Redemption comes from admitting sinful behavior and then asking God for forgiveness. That doesn’t mean Trump needs to ask the “great mob”, as you put it, for anything, but there is no evidence whatsoever Trump has asked anyone, God included, for forgiveness. And if you want proof, I give Trump’s own words.

    Frank Luntz – “But have you ever asked God for forgiveness?”

    Donald Trump – “I’m not sure I have. I don’t think so. If I do something wrong, I just try and make it right.”

    Where is the repentance in those comments? I sure don’t see it. What I see is a man who suggests that doing something good somehow balances out something bad. I’m sorry, but redemption isn’t based on assets and liabilities on a balance sheet. You can’t be absolved from one bad act simply by doing two good acts and claiming you’re in positive territory.

    And since when does it matter how long ago the bad behavior happened? Did God place a statute of limitations on sin of which I’m not aware? If so, please email Pope Francis in the Vatican so he can issue new guidelines to the bishops and priests around the world.

    Finally, what’s the evidence Trump has endeavored to change in a positive way? Was it him mocking a disabled reporter at a campaign rally? Was it him claiming Ted Cruz’s dad played a role in the JFK assassination? Was it him mocking John McCain’s war service to this country? Was it him paying hush money to a playmate and a porn star in October 2016? Was it him rationalizing Putin’s killing of journalists? Or is that he is pushing forward with policy and appointments you like?

    If you want to support Trump because he is appointing judges you like, I have no problem with that. As I wrote, that is a legitimate reason to support his presidency. But don’t degrade the concept of redemption by claiming that appointing good judges is a redemptive act because it’s not. Looking past immoral or bad behavior because of judges or policy is a transactional approach. There’s nothing inherently wrong with that approach, but it’s got nothing to do with redemption.

  1009. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    March 24, 2018 at 2:32 pm
    1019. “It’s just a guess, but right now I suspect a lot of Republicans who are supporting Trump in the polling are supporting him because Republicans are supporting a Republican president.”
    Yet a lot of congressional Republicans, like Flake, do not have wide support among Republicans, so am not sure party label along explains Trump’s strong Republican support.

    – One doesn’t diminish the other, but it’s a fair point.

  1010. Bitterlaw says:

    DB – I see your point but I do not believe in redemption. Once you do something hurtful or wrong you own it forever. I’m Irish. We never forgive or forget. At best, we decide whether there are reasons to keep somebody in our life.

  1011. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    March 24, 2018 at 2:39 pm
    Has any president ever been elected based on their personal morality? I cannot think of one off-hand. After Bill Clinton’s escapades (and Kennedy’s for that matter), think the Democrats are going to have a hard time making it an issue against Trump.

    – You can argue Carter in 1976 and GWB in 2000 were elected in part over their own morality.

    But to be clear, I’m not making the case Democrats can use morality against Trump.

    I’m pointing out what I see as the hypocrisy of the so-called values voters. They’ve made a 180 degree flip from where they stood on Clinton in 1998 to where they stand today with Trump.

  1012. Tina says:

    Mike Cernovich ?? Retweeted
    Ari Fleischer
    Ari Fleischer
    @AriFleischer
    ·
    5h
    Lost in the soft coverage of McCabe is his admission in this piece that some of his statements to the IG “were not fully accurate.” He tries to justify it without providing any details, but the core charge against him, he admits, is true.

    Opinion | Andrew McCabe: Not in my worst nightmares did I dream my FBI career would end this way
    washingtonpost.com

    So, McCabe admits to lying because he was distracted.

    His lawyah should have him stfu.

  1013. hugh says:

    Bitter. Perhaps that is the source of your bitterness. Everyone makes mistakes.

  1014. jason says:

    An amoral scumbag like Wobbie has no credibility saying anything against Trump.

    Period.

  1015. jason says:

    Robbie is a real person, or just someone having fun with a made up idiot.”

    He is a real amoral scumbag, rest assured.

    The M.O. is the same as always.

    He did this with Romney, no MSM attack was too low for him, no lie was too outrageous, no scurrilous attack was too out of bounds.

    Same during the campaign, he trashed every R non-stop except Jeb with the same kind of trash he uses against Trump.

    If it was Pence, he would be here on the first day with whatever garbage the MSM was throwing against him.

    Amoral scumbag.

  1016. Bitterlaw says:

    Hugh – Saying that everybody makes mistakes is, to me, giving out free passes for hurtful behavior.

  1017. Bitterlaw says:

    I have made many mistakes that hurt people. People have hurt me, too.it is impossible to undo those things but I dwell on them constantly. Thinking there is redemption would just be lying to make and others feel better.

  1018. jason says:

    dblaikie, don’t waste your time with Wobbie.

    He is not offended by anything Trump or Roy Moore or anybody not named Jeb Bush did or did not do.

    He has the character of a cockroach.

  1019. janz says:

    Tina, have a good trip, hopefully away from politics!

  1020. janz says:

    I don’t read Robbie’s posts anymore. They are so grim and over-the-top with negativity, all the while espousing to be some kind of conservative republican.

    On another note, here’s another POV regarding the ramifications of the newly minted and passed Omnibus Bill. Taking some of the comments discussed in this link into consideration, there seems to be a less ominous flip side to the next 6 months this spending bill is supposed to cover.

  1021. chicon says:

    dblaikie, nice post on Robbie. Any rational person would take it as an opportunity to take a look in the mirror. Alas….rational left the building awhile ago…

    Jason, of course, has had him pegged for a long time.

  1022. Robbie says:

    It shows how corrupting Trumpism is to the soul that Jason fraud thinks the person who disapproves of Trump’s lifestyle is the moral scumbag.

  1023. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 24, 2018 at 4:23 pm
    An amoral scumbag like Wobbie has no credibility saying anything against Trump.
    Period.

    – Says the guy who hated Trump in the election, left the party over Trump, and now demands the party support Trump even though he’s not a member of the party anymore.

    And you want to talk about credibility? Give me a break. You’ve been all over the place on Trump.

  1024. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    March 24, 2018 at 5:16 pm
    dblaikie, don’t waste your time with Wobbie.
    He is not offended by anything Trump or Roy Moore or anybody not named Jeb Bush did or did not do.
    He has the character of a cockroach.

    – I’m 100% offended by Roy Moore, Trump, Al Franken, Tim Murphy, Trent Franks, Bob Packwood, Bill Clinton, and the myriad of other politicians who conduct themselves is such morally embarrassing ways. You were as well until you caved to Trumpism.

  1025. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 24, 2018 at 5:40 pm
    dblaikie, nice post on Robbie. Any rational person would take it as an opportunity to take a look in the mirror. Alas….rational left the building awhile ago…
    Jason, of course, has had him pegged for a long time.

    – Oh good, chiclown is here to play.

    Tell me, Trump shill. Is naming conservative judges a redemptive action that cancels out previous bad acts? Can a person receive redemption without first asking for and receiving forgiveness as dblaikie suggested?

    That’s certainly not the Catholic teaching of redemption. But I always forget that everything in life at HHR now must be viewed through the prism of defending Trump no matter what he says or does.

    I addressed dblaikie views. You have not bothered to tell me where you disagree with me other than I wasn’t nice to your orange leader.

    And I had you pegged last year as a pro-Trump troll. You no more lurked here for 12 years before you started posting than I voted for Trump.

  1026. chicon says:

    I think this current Robbie is not the same guy that used to post here. That guy had some posts that were actually based in political science. This one, not so much.

    Prove you’re the same Robbie.

  1027. Robbie says:

    chicon says:
    March 24, 2018 at 6:14 pm
    I think this current Robbie is not the same guy that used to post here. That guy had some posts that were actually based in political science. This one, not so much.
    Prove you’re the same Robbie.

    – LOL.

    I’m not surprised a Trump shill would not recognize someone who has chosen not to change his views to conform with Trumpism. In other words, I’m not surprised you don’t understand or recognize what consistency is.

    Now, explain to me why you believed the DNC murdered Seth Rich or Obama used the British to spy on Trump.

  1028. Tim says:

    I think Bredesen may win, in TN. He is simply a better candidate than Blackburn is……….