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Baker/Jealous Tied in MD

The Baltimore Sun and Opinion Works have released a primary poll for Maryland showing the same top two candidate in the Democratic field as The Washington Post showed last week.

GOVERNOR – MARYLAND – DEM PRIMARY (BaSu/Opinion Works)
Ben Jealous 16%
Rushern Baker 16%
Valerie Ervin 5%
Rich Madaleno 4%
Jim Shea 4%
Krish Vignarajah 4%
Alec Ross 1%

This poll was done May 29-June 6 among 500 likely primary voters. There was not General Election numbers released in this article, not sure if they were done this time around. But the fascinating question in this poll indicated only 57% of Democratic primary voters (which in Maryland are strictly Democrats as the primaries are closed) will vote for the Democrat in November with 24% saying they will vote for Republican Larry Hogan.

Posted by Dave at 2:57 pm
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1,189 Responses to “Baker/Jealous Tied in MD”

  1. Messy says:

    first?

  2. Messy says:

    With that over with, it’s obvious that the Maryland Democratic primary is going to be fun to watch and that we may not know the winner until the wee hours of he morning.

    Plus we probably won’t be going to war with Canada. What do you expect for a former bouncer and amateur boxer who’s dad was quite pugilistic in his pronouncements.

  3. Bitterlaw says:

    It will fun watching NYC defend whatever Trump does with North Korea.

  4. Tina says:

    Truedope was hit so hard that his eye lash fell off.

  5. mnw says:

    Over at RRH, a poster linked to a Daily Forward article citing an American Jewish Conference poll. The poll shows Trump’s JA with American Jewish voters at 71 disapprove, 26 approve.

    If you read far enough down, you find out that Trump “has improved 6 points since our last poll, which is outside the MOE.”

    Remember the Pew poll about Trump’s somewhat similar improvement with AAs?

    You eat away at the margins among core DEM groups, & you get… a different order of battle.

    The situation in PA-01 is that the DEMs have nominated someone who can arguably be characterized by the GOP as an anti-Semite. One DEM Jewish group has already declined to support the DEM nominee there.

    In MN, it looks like the DEM nominee for AG will be Keith Ellison, & the DEM nominee to replace Ellison in Congress, in MN-05, will be notorious anti-Semite State Rep. Ilhan Omar.

    Risky business for the DEMs.

  6. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    3. “It will fun watching NYC defend whatever Trump does with North Korea.”

    Whatever Trump does, it cannot be worse than the complete failure regarding North Korea of past administrations.

  7. Tgca says:

    Why are we discussing this baker again. I thought we agreed to disagree? You can’t have your cake and eat it too!

  8. Cash Cow TM says:

    At Washington Nationals cow hide game.

    First base side…8th row from the field.

    Nats down 2-0…Max S. Served up a 2 run homer.

  9. mnw says:

    test

    I try to post, & it won’t go through, & then it gets blocked as a duplicate post!

  10. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    New GOP Ohio Poll; DeWine(R) +7 in the Governor’s race and S. Brown(D) +4 in the Senate race.

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/06/10/america-first-ohio-poll-nancy-pelosi-drags-down-democratic-party-donald-trump-boosts-gop/

  11. mnw says:

    Sheep

    That’s an internal for PDT’s own Super PAC, fwiw.

    I’d LIKE to believe it, but…

  12. Bitterlaw says:

    Prior Presidents screwed up dealing with North Korea. Trump can screw up dealing with North Korea. Both can be true.

    On the other hand, maybe something positive will result from the meeting.

  13. Chicon says:

    From the end of previous thread.

    Wes, I appreciate the response. I think Trump often sells his adversary that he’s capable of doing just about anything; then makes the best deal he can. Maybe that’s the case here.

  14. Chicon says:

    Bitter, can you define “screwed up”?

  15. Chicon says:

    6. Yep, I agree. Hopefully it works out, but if it takes an Iran deal to get something done, I hope he walks.

  16. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    12. “Prior Presidents screwed up dealing with North Korea. Trump can screw up dealing with North Korea. Both can be true.”

    What past dealings by former presidents? Their past approach seemed to have been to stick their heads in the sand and ignore the problem, or try to buy off the North Koreans with cash. Lethargy did not solve the problem.

    Don’t believe any of them got the North Koreans to destroy a nuclear test site; or attend a summit with the North Korean leader to discuss denuclearization. No, this president seems more assertive and is actively working to resolve things.

  17. Janz says:

    Well said SanDiego. There are lots of unknowns, potential traps, and pitfalls, but at least this POTUS is exercising some initiative, with stated goals in mind. Love him, hate him or simply tolerate Trump, but it would only be fair to give him a little leeway before issuing instant criticism and jabs.

  18. Chicon says:

    Also, NYC would not defend an Iran-style agreement with North Korea.

  19. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump can be a difficult negotiator, just ask Justin Trudeau. There are some who believe Trump’s tough attack on Trudeau was meant to also to be a warming to the North Koreans

  20. Ron N says:

    So let me get this straight the media is upset and how dare the president stand up for American workers. We are a global economy and we should only worry about the other world leaders. I understand a trade war isn’t good for us but at the same time trade should be fair and not a pig bank for everyone else.

  21. janz says:

    I don’t really understand Trump. But he certainly is not using the diplomatic protocols that our allies are used to experiencing.

    What Trump is doing, however, is opening up the global books, including putting a light on trade figures etc. that appear to be terribly lopsided. Just because our global partners are comfortable with years of doing business on these terms, why do we have to continue accepting tariffs that are so insanely unacceptable to us?

  22. janz says:

    BTW, I think Trump’s behavior @ the G7 meeting was no more bazaar than the other world leaders’ conduct. In fact they seem more like the high school in-group, ganging up on the outlier kid. Trudeau’s false friendliness was as apparent as his slipping eyebrows. Macron appears to be an ingratiating type of friend, as long as circumstances are to his liking. Merkle is terrified of not being in control, and Trump is making it difficult for her to keep said control.

  23. mnw says:

    The EU bans about 85% of ALL U.S. agricultural foodstuffs COMPLETELY (grain; wheat; soybeans; everything), because they’re “genetically modified.”

    Nothing to do with protectionism at all. That EU farmers survive at all because of this exclusion? That’s a coinkydink.

    It’s a health & safety issue; nothing to do with non-tariff barriers!

    May I see the hands of those who believe the EU is merely trying to protect its citizens from deleterious foodstuffs? And not protect their wretchedly inefficient food industries?

    jason? BL? anybody at all?

    If you’re skeptical about the exclusion, then… what should the U.S. DO ABOUT IT?

  24. NYCmike says:

    Chicon makes a heck of a lot more sense than the Shyster.

    Give it a rest, Bitterlaw.

  25. NYCmike says:

    Powerline.com had a piece about Trump speaking about the G7 – tariff issues………i am going out on a very fragile limb and predicting that jason/Bitterlaw will NEVER quote Trump from that article.

  26. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC agrees with posters who agree with him. Zzzzzzz.

  27. janz says:

    Bitter you are cloning your remarks after John McCain’s.

  28. Chicon says:

    Bitter, what will success look like at the summit? How about failure?

  29. Tina says:

    Pretty clear that Trump threw Justin Truedope a bone by agreeing to the communique. Then he left and Trudeope and the commie light minister attacked him.

    The communique was then rescidended.

  30. Tgca says:

    As I stated in the past thread, Trump outsmarted the Europeans and Canada and put them on the defensive. Free trade for all. Who can be against that? That’s why they nodded in agreement to look into this as if this was some major genius idea. My gut feeling is they won’t do much about it without real push from the US.

    Trump was correct when he stated that he understands they’re looking out for their people but he is looking out for US interests so it’s arrogant to argue that the US can’t do what they do.

    Clearly, they are so used to protectionsim they can’t comprehend why the US no longer wants to play this deeply imbalanced trade policy. Change is hard, I get it but Trump took a realistic business view of it while they took a political protectionist view of it and are all pissed he called them on it where past administrations never took up the issue. That is what you expect POTUS to do and though it worries Wall Street, the MSM, and politicians, the American people like the idea that an American president is looking out for its interests.

  31. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is a 1988 Oprah interview of Trump. He was saying the exact same things then as now. He was tired of the U.S. getting ripped off by other countries.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI

    Trump got elected because voters finally agreed with Trump’s message. He is not going to back down or compromise. Why he has been relatively successful is he has an iron will, and is not willing to compromise what he wants to accomplish. A large block of voters react favorably to this type of strong personality, despite his excesses and at times craziness. I think he would rather not be re-elected in 2020 than compromise what he has advocated for over 30 years.

  32. Tgca says:

    My gut feeling is there will be posturing and threats for a few months and then some better agreements done and all will come together and say what great things we accomplished. But for now, Trudeau, Macron, and Merkel are pissed that Trump held steady on his position unlike past US presidents, and boxed them in, and that makes them look weak at home.

    This was all about perception, and they thought the threat of ganging up would work, but he outsmarted them by making suggestions that are highly reasonable and they did not expect that they can’t publicly rebuke.

  33. Tina says:

    Truedope has no leverage here, neither does the thugs in Mexico. The socialist gunment will win in Mexico, the drug cartels will take further control, and industries will leave for here.

  34. JeffP says:

    16 & 30… DJT is a real leader…man on a mission…not afraid to punch back…and knows how to turn a situation into his having the upper hand. My favorite Trump troll…bringing Bill Clinton’s accusers to debate after pu**y tape…in the crowd too with Chelsea there too. Cruz and Rubio look like light weights now along with all the rest of them. Un freaking believable. The deep state and globalist want him gone and dead…can’t control him.

  35. Tgca says:

    31 SDC

    I disagree that Trump doesn’t compromise. I think his MO is to come on very strong, alienate folks with the threat of taking it to the limit and walking away if needed, then work out a deal where he gets more than he had before even if not everything he wanted, and then all feel they saved the day and avoided catastrophe by compromising, and they feel accomplished they got the best they could under the circumstances. So it looks like a win-win for all. Then he lavished then with praise. That seems to always be his MO. His strategy is very psychologically based. He wears them down, and then builds them back up after they deal.

  36. Chicon says:

    30 – good point on Trump’s tariff offer – get rid of them all. I bet even the anti-tariff absolutists would support that position.

  37. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    As Priebus is quoted as saying:

    “[Trump] is a man who fears no one and nothing,” continued Priebus, “and there is absolutely nothing he’s intimidated by. . . . And that’s very rare in politics. Most people in politics are people who have sort of an approval addiction. Now, granted, President Trump does too, but he’s willing to weather one storm after the next to get to an end result that most people are not willing to weather. . . . He doesn’t mind the craziness, the drama, or the difficulty, as long as an end goal is in sight. He will endure it.”

    Add to that, Trump is an expert at ruffling the pigeons, and keeps his opponents in a permanent fluster. Robbie’s wacky post are an example; Trump is unique in leaving his more emotional opponents in a continued state of derangement. You have to admit, it has an entertainment quality all its own. It is enjoyable to play with the board’s trolls.

  38. Tgca says:

    34 Jeff

    Agreed. He is fearless in his approach but always reasonable at the negotiating table. I think part of this is because he is a narcissist. He is not worried about what others think and does not let that cloud his judgment. Many presidents are always focused on how others will see them if they act this orbthst way. I think Trump just focuses on the outcome and achievements. He believes folks will admire him for his achievements so he does not worry about the process of getting there.

    He takes risks. He also has wealth and a large support group to fall back upon so it’s not like he needs anything from anyone. I believe that helps him be fearless. He is not indebted to anyone.

  39. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    35. “I disagree that Trump doesn’t compromise.. He wears them down, and then builds them back up after they deal.”

    Hi Tgca, I totally agree with your post. The deals that Trump works out accomplish his goals. My comments were directed at Trump not compromising his efforts to achieve these goals and do the deals.

  40. Tgca says:

    37 SDC

    It’s so true. These folks have such TDS and it drives them bonkers when he does and say something they dislike. They overreact to the point they look crazy. It’s lile the crazy a$$ b*tch who can’t let go of being dumped and goes on and on for months or years until people no longer want to be around him/her.

    Trump knows this and uses it to his advantage, especially with the MSM. They can’t help but react and then overreact to the point they become unhinged and then folks are talking about the MSM bias and behavior as opposed to what Trump said.

    Love him or hate him, he is pure genius at this. My fav example is the Pocohontas insults against Warren that changed the dialogue from his immature name calling to her lying and feigning Native American heritage to the point she is on the defensive about it, and being called on it by Native Americans.

  41. Tgca says:

    I must say I personally still believe the Pocohontas remark was the best political one ever. I nearly died laughing nonstop when he stated “ …and did you hear what Pocohontas said.” To this day I still laugh when I think of it. Politically incorrect? Totally! Funny? Most definitely!

  42. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Yes, I agreed with a poster who used my past remarks to come to a correct opinion about what i think about a certain topic.

    You obviously did not comprehend my past remarks, and instead of asking me to clarify for you, just blurted out something ludicrous.

    Or you were just being an A-Hole?

    Which one?

  43. mnw says:

    SDC 31

    I couldn’t agree more. That’s very succinct & incisive! VERY.

  44. Cash Cow TM says:

    Who cares about N. Korea and Trump.

    If Trump had power, he would use it make the
    National win when I attend…

    And make the opposing teams pay for it.

    OH.. and FYI my home cmputer network system has been
    Down simce Thursday. Tech person coming on
    Tuesday. Sucks to have to rely on cell phone to access
    the Intertubes.

  45. Bitterlaw says:

    27 I have not watched any news since Wednesday. I had more important things like softball to focus upon. I read a few stories Daily Mail to keep up with the news. I do not know what McCain said.

    As for the summit , success or failure is like obscenity. I will know it when I see it.

  46. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Your act is pretty clear. Defend and justify whatever Trump does. You pretend that you will judge everything he does on a case by case basis but I am waiting for the case where you are critical without equivocation.

  47. Chicon says:

    45 – smart. That’ll make it easier to criticize the outcome, should you choose to do so.

  48. Chicon says:

    46 – the budget deal for $500, Alex….

  49. Bitterlaw says:

    Chi – If the summit is successful, I will Trump credit. If a war breaks out, I won’t blame Trump. Kim is crazy.

  50. Bitterlaw says:

    Sorry, Chi. NYC said Trump was foolish to sign it but put all the blame on Congress. He made it seem like Trump was held captive while somebody moved his signing hand.

  51. Chicon says:

    50 – as you said, NYC said Trump was foolish to sign it. Which satisfies your request in 46. Being upset with Congress also is not at all inconsistent – both can be true, as one of my favorite posters might say…

    NYC, I need another $20 to keep this up…

  52. Tina says:

    The second presidential debate. Significant and a game changer.

  53. Chicon says:

    49 – fair enough.

  54. Tina says:

    The second debate and the Catholic Dinner pretty significant turn arounds. He gambled on both.

    With that said this meeting is a gamble,

  55. Tina says:

    I will blame trump if a war breaks out. I will blame trump if the meeting is a success.

    Jenot

  56. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC did equivocate about the budget. Trump was “foolish” while Congress was completely responsible and betrayed their voters.

  57. Chicon says:

    56 – that is not equivocating on Trump’s actions. It is being more mad at Congress than Trump, which means mad at both. You alleged he always supports Trump, and have admitted that he didn’t support him on the budget.

  58. Bitterlaw says:

    We just disagree. GFY.

  59. Chicon says:

    Gladly.

  60. Tgca says:

    60! Yeah! F*ckin eh!

  61. Phil says:

    Hey, Robert De Niro. Want more Trump? Keep doing what you’re doing.

    These Hollywood people are absolutely insane with hate. They are literally mentally ill.

  62. Tgca says:

    So Robert DiNero says F*ck Trump at the Tonys and the audience goes wild with clapping, cheering, and a standing ovation. …and celebrities wonder why they’re mocked and ridiculed.

    Could you imagine how they would react if James Woods or Clint Eastwood said F*ck Obama or Hillary? The MSM and political scrutiny would go on for weeks.

  63. Tgca says:

    Per Drudge, Twitter CEO apologizes after eating at Chick-Fil-A since Chick-Fil-A had previously supported traditional marriage over gay marriage. He happened to post his meal discount and then was criticized for eating there. CNNs Soledad O’Brien shamed him by stating “This is an interesting place to boost during pride month.” Then he claims Oops! He forgot about the Chick-Fil-A controversy. I doubt he forgot about it. I think he’s embarrassed he got called out on dining there. Hypocrite!

    How disgusting! MSM openly calling for boycotting a business based because they disagree with them. So much for CNN being objective.

  64. Trump says:

    Trump demonstrated once again that he is erratic and untrustworthy — with his own allies! The contrast between his antagonistic relationship with democratic allies and his never saying a bad word about Russia defies explanation, unless one is to buy into the theory that he is indebted in some fashion to Russian President Vladimir Putin, whose campaign to interfere in the U.S. elections helped land Trump in the White House.

  65. Tim says:

    63: Hey, I don’t eat there, either. Of course, that isn’t about their politics. It’s because the food is sh*t. LOL

  66. Tim says:

    #16: They kept the peace for 54 years, before Trump got into office. That is a fact.

  67. Tina says:

    Has Justin Truedope lost any more eye brows over night?

    Wth?

  68. Tina says:

    Who kept the peace for 54 years with the Koreas?

  69. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Another FL Senate Poll:

    Politico/AARP): Gov Rick Scott (R) 40%, US Sen Bill Nelson (D) 39%

  70. Tina says:

    The drafts have replaced Camera Hogg and Stormy with Deniro, a washed up,actor.

    Brilliant.

  71. Tina says:

    Fake News.

    Fake Eyebrows.

    I cannot stop laughing at Truedope and little macaron.

  72. jason says:

    What could go wrong… Dennis Rodman to assist at the summit.

    “The former NBA star is going to Singapore during the President Trump-Kim Jong-un summit on the dime of marijuana cryptocurrency, Potcoin.

    Rodman announced the news on Twitter Friday, saying, “I’ll give whatever support is needed to my friends, @realDonald Trump and Marshall [sic] Kim Jong Un.”

    The image shows both world leaders pasted together with Rodman wearing sunglasses and a pink feather boa.

    In another tweet, Rodman, who competed on “Celebrity Apprentice” says he’s “honored” to call Trump “a friend.”

  73. mnw says:

    Sheep

    Given that poll’s pedigree, i.e., AARP & Politico, that’s another encouraging sign for Scott, imo.

    As we’ve discussed several times previously, showing that many und indicates the polling outfit doesn’t look like it’s very competent.

  74. Tina says:

    STEALTH JEFF Retweeted
    Mal McKie ??
    Mal McKie ??
    @Mal_McKie
    ·
    8h
    Trudeau spent $600 million to host an economic summit in which he decided NOT to personally lobby President Trump about US-Canada trade, but rather TO WAIT UNTIL AFTER HE’D LEFT THE SUMMIT before feigning outrage about tariffs in the most publicized way.

    He lost an eyebrow too.

  75. mnw says:

    SCOTUS is rumbling. Gerrymander decision soon.

    This could be a day that produces more news that we can consume.

  76. Tina says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/06/10/trumps-willingness-to-walk-away-at-g-7-and-north-korea-summits-show-his-foreign-policy-is-working.amp.html#click=https://t.co/AfOM5c7QVc

    If he cannot reach a favorable agreement with Mentally Ill, he will walk away, like he did with the gs7.

    Better no deal, than a sheot deal.

  77. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Trump scheduled to depart Signapore on Tuesday evening.

    Al-ap

  78. Tina says:

    Jack Posobiec?? Retweeted
    Kurt Schlichter
    Kurt Schlichter
    @KurtSchlichter
    ·
    Jun 9
    I have yet to get a good answer as to why we should allow our allies to impose higher tariffs on us then we impose on them.?

    All I hear is how I don’t understand economics.?????

    Maybe.?????

    But I understand getting screwed.?

    And we’re no longer playing that game.?

  79. Hugh says:

    In the business world, the largest most successful companies eventually get the best deals. They care mostly about bottom line. These businesses often bully smaller suppliers. However the pointy headed economists and political class who know nothing about running businesses can only say tariffs are bad and it will hurt us more than it hurts them. Their answer is to talk talk talk. We’ve tried it and it has not worked. The tariffs are a means to an end. If they think we are serious they will make accommodations. There is no fair trade. Time to assert ourselves while we have the might to do it.

  80. mnw says:

    47/52

  81. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Does Mark Sanford(R-SC) have a GOP primary problem due to his anti- Trump statements?

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/10/mark-sanford-primary-trump-south-carolina-635357

  82. mnw says:

    The Wise Men seem to think Sanford’s in trouble, as I’m sure you know.

  83. mnw says:

    My DEM friends in MO (couple of retired legislators) are REALLY disappointed that Gov. Grietens is gone, as if Thanksgiving dinner had been snatched away from right under their noses.

    There’s still some case involving his emails going on, & they’re hoping that could somehow help their chances.

  84. jason says:

    And we’re no longer playing that game.?”

    Zzzzzz.. I know you think Trump invented tariffs and that its the best idea since sliced bread, but actually its true and tested failure.

    https://www.thirdway.org/memo/history-says-trade-protectionism-has-never-worked

  85. Tina says:

    Mslsd has declared the summit a failure.

    Why?

    Because the president has not gone sightseeing.

  86. jason says:

    Atlanta Braves pitcher Aníbal Sánchez had a pretty good day on the field Saturday night. He gave up two runs in 5 1/3 innings to beat the Los Angeles Dodgers. Off the field, however, was a different story.

    Sánchez had over $100,000 worth of items stolen from his hotel room Saturday night while he was on the mound, according to TMZ.”

    Who leaves 100 grand of st-ff in a hotel room?

    Well, now we know.

  87. Todd McCain says:

    Liberals in complete meltdown mode regarding the 5-4 decision upholding Ohio’s voter purge law.

    It is quite entertaining. #gorsuch

  88. jason says:

    Trump could sign a peace treaty with North Korea, broker a deal between Israel and the Palestinians, get the Russians out of the Ukraine, and turn Cuba and Venezuela into capitalist countries and Wobbie and the MSM would still be talking about Mika’s face and the missing tree at the WH.

  89. Tina says:

    BREAKING: U.S. Supreme Court: States can purge voter rolls by targeting people who haven’t cast ballots in a while. http://apne.ws/fsBYWOg
    7:34 AM – Jun 11, 2018

  90. mnw says:

    The only surprising thing to me about the SCOTUS voter purge law is that it was 5-4!

    I thought all states purged inactive voters.

  91. DW says:

    Updated dashboard

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
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    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2
    FL_25 R | 165 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.8
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    CA_50 R | 171 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    NC_02 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    OH_14 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
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    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
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    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
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    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    KY_06 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    MI_08 R | 204 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2
    TX_32 R | 205 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 2
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.6
    NJ_07 R | 217 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    IL_12 R | 218 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4
    TX_23 R | 217 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4
    MN_03 R | 216 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    VA_10 R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4
    CA_39* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.6
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2
    CA_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6
    MN_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2

    *indicates open seat

  92. DW says:

    Dems outraged because the dead are being denied their rights to vote!!!

  93. Hugh says:

    84. Worked pretty well for China.

  94. mnw says:

    DW

    Looks like IL-12 is Ground Zero.

    Contra troll, I’ve seen nothing to indicate that the GOP incumbent is in trouble yet. I will confess that I’m concerned that Rauner could pull a lot of GOP candidates down with him.

    What are your thoughts about the new dashboard vs. the previous one?

  95. DW says:

    The changes were almost all seats outside the battleground tossups. CA_49 is the only one of substance where they all gleefully believe leans D now. Cook the only exception who still says Tossup.

  96. Tgca says:

    It is absurd that folks feel voter purging after 6 years of no voting or not responding to voter mail requests that they should not be purged. I have moved around the US so I have some experience here. When I move, I let my voter registration lapse at my old address and register to vote at the new address. I routinely work 50 to 60 hour weeks and yet I find time to register so I don’t buy this discrimination crap.

    Of course, the GOP wants to clean up the rolls and they know lazy folks are less apt to vote so they’re fine by that. That’s different than discriminating against someone to vote.

    At the same time, the Dems know that they can benefit by manipulating folks to vote (e.g favors to vote) or that illegal voting benefits them.

    So who are we kidding here. Both have an incentive but only one is meant to keep the integrity of the system, and it’s not the Dems. Voting authorities have a responsibility to ensure a reasonable system is in place and individuals have a responsibility to keep their voting up to date.

  97. DW says:

    Of course the true tossup seats are still 10 below the cut-off line. If Tossup truly means tossup, even by the standard of these rankings, and we award half of the tossups to the GOP and half to the Dems, then the Dems get 14 total flips and fall short of control.

  98. mnw says:

    DW

    Why are they so gleeful about CA-49? Because the DEMs got more total votes in the primary?

  99. DW says:

    98–yes, that seems to be the rationale.

  100. Diamond Jim says:

    C

  101. Robbie says:

    Jason fraud – “I love that Trump has elevated Kim Jong Un on the national stage. I hated it when Obama did the same thing with the Castro brothers, but Trump has a R after his name and that’s all that matters to me. Of course, I’ll defend myself by suggesting my support of Trump is simply me accepting the results of the election even though I didn’t vote for Trump and left the party over Trump.”

    MJ Lee
    ?@mj_lee

    People *cheering* Kim Jong Un’s entrance — and shouting “Mr. Kim, Mr. Kim!” as though he is a celebrity — is a thing that is happening right now in Singapore. Unclear if said people have ever read the news, ever.

  102. Cash Cow TM says:

    CO GOV–R PRIMARY

    MAGELLAN

    “Survey Findings Treasurer Walker Stapleton currently leads the Republican primary field for Governor with a 13-point lead and 36% support. His closest challenger is businessman Victor Mitchell with 23% support. Former Parker Mayor Greg Lopez has 10% support, Doug Robinson has 4% and 27% of likely Republican primary voters are undecided. Among male voters, Walker Stapleton holds a commanding 23-point lead over Victor Mitchell. Among female voters the election is much tighter and within the survey margin of error. Among seniors aged 65 and older, the most dominant and important Republican primary voter sub-group, Walker Stapleton leads Victor Mitchell by 24 points, 47% to 23% respectively.

  103. Tina says:

    I am triggered by mentally ill.

    Jebot

  104. Bitterlaw says:

    Don’t tell Robbie that Trump supports the sun rising in the East. It would ruin every morning for him.

  105. Tina says:

    What about Mute 43s outreach to Khadaffi, who killed Americans? Mute 43 also legitimized khadaffi, using Jebot logic.

  106. Tina says:

    Or nixons outreach to China, aka ping pong diplomacy.

    Reagan and Gorbachev?

    Clinton and the Vietnamese leader.

  107. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    93. “Hugh says: 84. Worked pretty well for China.”

    Totally agree. If China agrees to free trade, all the new tariffs will be removed.

  108. jason says:

    Jason fraud – “I love that Trump has elevated Kim Jong Un on the national stage.”

    LOL

    Amoral scumbag is unhinged.

    “National stage”….

    Wobbie wants to compare North Korea to Castro?

    Really?

    We have 30k troops in South Korea. North Korea is developing nuclear weapons, and is a threat to Japan, Taiwan and other allies. A war on the peninsula will cost tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of lives.

    I opposed Obama’s boot licking visit to Cuba that accomplished nothing except giving Castro a pass.
    How this somehow means I should against a peace treaty with North Korea is something only a moron still talking about “candidates” could come up with.

    I have no problem with Trump trying to come to a deal with North Korea and holding direct talks. I already said I thought saying Kim was “honorable” was a rookie mistake.

    GFY.

  109. jason says:

    People *cheering* Kim Jong Un’s entrance — and shouting “Mr. Kim, Mr. Kim!” as though he is a celebrity”

    He IS a celebrity. It’s not every day you get to see a murderous dictator that had members of his own family killed with anti-aircraft guns.

    Castro got applause wherever he went too…he killed thousands.

    I never heard Wobbie whine that Castro shouldn’t be allowed to travel in Europe or Latin America.

  110. Robbie says:

    Jason fraud – “How dare someone look for consistency in my past views. The only thing that matters now is what’s best for Trump. I hated him during the election, I didn’t vote for him, and I left the party over him. Now, I cover up my about face for him by yapping “I have accepted the election results”.

    Josh Jordan
    ?@NumbersMuncher

    Conservatives during Obama: HOW DARE OBAMA SAY HE WOULD MEET FACE TO FACE WITH A DICTATOR!

    Conservatives today: ISN’T IT AMAZING THAT OUR DEAR LEADER WOULD FLY TO MEET FACE TO FACE W/ AN HONEST, NOBLE MAN IN NORTH KOREA JUST TRYING TO HELP HIS COUNTRY FIND A BETTER PATH FORWARD?

  111. Robbie says:

    The countdown clock is on for Jason fraud finally announcing he supports Trump’s trade wars and tariffs. He’ll squeal like a stuck pig that he’s a free trader and Trump is wrong, but I have no doubt he’ll get there eventually. After all, Trump won so he’ll have to accept the results.

  112. Chicon says:

    Jason supporting Trump on tariffs. Lol….

  113. Chicon says:

    Not a chance.

  114. Chicon says:

    Most unhinged – Flyboy or MD?

  115. mnw says:

    Most unhinged?

    I vote for The Kindergarden (sic) Kid, TIPW. Hasn’t been around lately. I suspect he is a sock puppet for one of these other trolls, Flyboy or the threadpig.

  116. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 11, 2018 at 3:30 pm
    Most unhinged – Flyboy or MD?

    – Biggest conspiracy that chiclown fell for?

    1. Andrew Napolitano’s claim, given to him by nutjob Larry Johnson, that Obama used the British spy agency to spy on Dear Leader Trump.

    2. The claim made by Rod Wheeler on FoxNews that the DNC murdered Seth Rich.

  117. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    June 11, 2018 at 3:36 pm
    Most unhinged?
    I vote for The Kindergarden (sic) Kid, TIPW. Hasn’t been around lately. I suspect he is a sock puppet for one of these other trolls, Flyboy or the threadpig.

    – It’s our resident pro-Trump populist who went silent for years on this board, but then showed up to worship fake billionaire Donald Trump.

    I suspect no one was happier that Trump’s court jester at HHR, Jonesy, disappeared after pedophile good ole Roy lost the Alabama Senate race. Now, mnw gets to serve as Trump’s court jester.

    Tell us, mnw. You must be over the moon that fake billionaire Donald Trump has pissed off our allies with idiotic tariffs while, at the same time, licking Kim Jong Un’s balls to get a deal that will get him the Nobel Prize.

    Peter Navarro, a socialist Democrat who supported Bill Clinton, is your new economic hero, right?

  118. Tgca says:

    Tina

    Just stop it now! You sound ridiculous.

    You cannot compare Trump’s behavior to that of past administrations. It’s just not relevant or fair. After all, Trump is a registered Republican. How can you defend this?

    For example, Clinton was accused of raping women (with some documented evidence available), abusing his leadership power in the oval office by engaging in sexual escapades with a young impressionable intern, lied under oath, and targeted accusers of sexual assault in order to destroy their reputation with the assistance and strategic guidance of his wife. This is not the same as Trump’s behavior of engaging in lewd jokes in private or having an adult consenting affair years before he entered public life. There is no moral equivalence here. If there were, the Hollywood elite, MSM, and the women’s rights groups would not support Clinton. So that just proves Clinton‘s behavior was nowhere near as egregious as Trump’s.

    You show extreme bias in your posts by suggesting that rape is as bad as two guys making lewd jokes in private. That is just not the case. Jokes are bad and hurtful to people’s feelings. …and who has consenting adult affairs?

    Clearly, Trump should be in jail for his awful, hateful behavior, and Clinton should attend sensitivity training at most because of his sophomoric behavior.

    Got it!

  119. Robbie says:

    I see “whataboutism” is still in fine form in 119.

  120. Robbie says:

    MAGA

    My Attorney Got Arrested.

  121. Robbie says:

    Important update.

    Miles of wall built today – 0

    Miles of wall built since January 20, 2017 – 0

  122. mnw says:

    Chicon

    I think Sanford actually loses tonight. There’s not much at stake policy-wise.

    Tgca

    You hanging in there & doing OK?

  123. Robbie says:

    Phony FoxNews controversies that were going to shutdown the Russia/Mueller witch hunt.

    1. muh unmasking
    2. muh Uranium One
    3. muh dossier funding
    4. muh Nunes memo
    5. muh secret society
    6. muh McCabe IG report
    7. muh Spygate

  124. Chicon says:

    Flyboy making a strong case for the title.

  125. Mr.Vito says:

    125. Wont be denied…

    https://youtu.be/X3qsu4QzRUU

  126. Tgca says:

    120

    Yep Robbie

    …and you still like dat crazy a$$ deranged b*tch that can’t get over he/she was dumped and still lashing out 2 years later and trying to bring your ex down because of your inability to accept change when everyone else has moved on.

    Now I mean that in a sincere supportive way and it’s not meant to be condescending since me and you probably can agree on most things not Trump.

    BUT YOU’RE ACTING ALL CRAZY B*TCH!!! STOP IT!!!

    Let it go and we can all be friends again. I am actually one here who would otherwise give support you.

    I would like to give you a big hug and say “let it go my friend, it’ll be alright” but I’m afraid you might start going all Norman Bates psycho stabbing me in the head because of the sight of my MAGA cap sets you.

  127. jason says:

    The countdown clock is on for Jason fraud finally announcing he supports Trump’s trade wars and tariffs.”

    I guess Amoral Scumbag didn’t find any post where I defended Trump’s trade policies or the bonus question where I defended his “honorable” remark.

    So Amoral Scumbag, time to mail the $1000 check to the York ASPCA.

    Thanks.

  128. Robbottie says:

    AGMA

    Airline grounded my a$$

  129. jason says:

    I hated him during the election, I didn’t vote for him, and I left the party over him.”

    I hated him during the primaries, I didn’t vote for him, I didn’t leave the party over him.

    That was in 2016.

    Yes, since then Trump won the election and has been President for a year and a half.

    I have moved on from the primaries. There are important issues for the country being dealt with and who lost the primary is no longer relevant.

    You are still living the primaries. A sad and pathetic and bitter small minded loser.

    Jeb lost. Get over it. Man-up and stop whining. The world has moved on.

  130. Tgca says:

    123. MNW

    I am doing well under the circumstances. Thank you for asking.

    Most of the back and spine pain is manageable now with proper rest periods. I’m weening myself off the opioids so I don’t become an addict so I deal with some pain still. Down from painkillers 6x daily to about 2x daily.

    Still dealing with one uncooperative leg though and using the walker instead of a cane. Damn leg spasms and pain make it hard to otherwise walk unassisted or just with a cane. I take anti-spasm meds which seem to help as long as I stay on schedule 3x daily.

    Sleeping is hard too because of the incision area and it feels like I got a massive tumor in my lower back when I lie down. I have to sleep in a fetal position on my side with pillows between the legs and that causes all kinds of discomfort and numbness in the arms, shoulder, and neck too and constant turning from one side to the other all night so rarely sleep more than an hour at a time.

    But hey! At least I’m not destined to be in a wheelchair any time soon and Trump is MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!

    So unless some crazy FL driver runs me over in my walker, I hope to be out and about on my cane within a few weeks.

  131. jason says:

    Hey amoral scumbag, here is the link:

    https://www.ycspca.org/

  132. Wobbles says:

    Buh buh, Mika’s face…

    “Former Trump campaign volunteer Carter Page has been pursued by Christopher Steele and his dossier, the FBI, Democrats and Russia collusion-minded media.

    He has proclaimed his innocence throughout the two-year inquisition.

    Last week, he learned he had another adversary, this one hidden.

    A federal indictment showed that James A. Wolfe, director of security for the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, was leaking secret anti-Page information to the press. His favorite recipient was reporter Ali Watkins, who quickly rose through the Washington journalism thicket from college intern to New York Times reporter at age 26.

    The indictment against Mr. Wolfe, 57, said he had a romantic relationship with Ms. Watkins from December 2013, when she was an intern, to December 2017. Two plot twists that month: She won a job at The New York Times, and the FBI confronted Mr. Wolfe. The indictment charges him with three counts of lying when he denied leaking to reporters.

    Conservatives complain the Watkins-Wolfe scandal is another example of Washington’s “deep state” media alliance trying to sabotage President Trump. New York Post columnist Michael Goodwin called one of Ms. Watkin’s stories “Part of the orgy of leaks targeting President Trump.”

  133. Tina says:

    Whataboutism.

    Translated.

    I need to go back todos for talking points.

  134. CG says:

    132. Can you get them to stop emailing me their newsletter? It’s a waste of paper and resources on their behalf.

  135. CG says:

    Not email… regular mail

  136. jason says:

    Chicon says:
    June 11, 2018 at 3:29 pm

    Jason supporting Trump on tariffs. Lol”

    Yep, ridiculous.

    But that kind of lie is the only way he can pretend that I am some big Trump supporter.

  137. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Someone even more unhinged than Robbie appears to be Bill Maher. Who wants a recession to get rid of Trump.

    “Liberal comedian Bill Maher on Friday said that he hopes the economy crashes in order to “get rid” of President Donald Trump.
    Maher made the remarks on his HBO talk show, “Real Time with Bill Maher.”
    “I feel like the bottom has to fall out at some point,” he said.
    “By the way, I’m hoping for it because one way you get rid of Trump is a crashing economy. So please, bring on the recession.”

    Romney had a point when he predicted Trump would be re-elected solidly. The Democrats are so out of the mainstream that it alienates people.

  138. jason says:

    Corey, the dogs LOVE you.

  139. CG says:

    The dogs are one thing but the horses they show are ugly as hell.

  140. jason says:

    By the way, I’m hoping for it because one way you get rid of Trump is a crashing economy. So please, bring on the recession.”

    Wow.

    Of course this was the same sick bastard who said terrorists who flew children into buildings to kill thousands of innocent people weren’t cowards.

    After he said that, I never watched one minute of anything else he ever did.

  141. CG says:

    Maher is rooting for a recession just like Trump bragged that he was rooting for the housing crisis.

    Those types are all the same.

  142. jason says:

    By the way, I’m hoping for it because one way you get rid of Trump is a crashing economy. So please, bring on the recession.”

    They GOP should make a campaign ad out of that.

  143. CG says:

    Maher also thinks Trump will cancel the 2020 election just like Polaris believed Obama would cancel elections.

  144. Tina says:

    Maher hitting the bong like Truedope.

  145. Tina says:

    Has Fuhrer Mulehead found any collusion yet?

    Any indictments of the Russians that hacked the dnc server?

  146. jason says:

    The people who want a recession are rich liberals and bloodsucking parasites for whom a recession wouldn’t make any difference.

  147. CG says:

    Sounds like a pre-Presidency Trump, when he was rooting for one.

  148. jason says:

    Has Fuhrer Mulehead found any collusion yet?”

    Of course he has.

    The Democrats hired a foreign agent to dig up dirt and concoct a fake dossier on their opponent and then to leak it to the MSM.

    Sounds like collusion to me.

  149. NYCmike says:

    “Maher is rooting for a recession just like Trump bragged that he was rooting for the housing crisis.”

    -This is very foolish.

    Maher wants a recession so that the people in power may change.

    Trump, since he had capital available, would make money during a housing crisis, under either a Democrat or a Republican.

    Kind of like how my mutual funds increased nicely in 1987/88, 2000/01, 2008/09.

    If there is a downturn, and you have capital, AND PATIENCE, and a set of cojones, you can benefit.

  150. NYCmike says:

    Chicon,

    Please don’t expect any $$ from me for Bitterlaw’s faulty reasoning………I sold my printing press last year.

  151. Tina says:

    Trump did not root. He only said the economy could be stronger, wages better, and jobs better than part time, McDonald’s jobs.

  152. jason says:

    Maher is a despicable and loathsome scumbag.

    But these are the kinds of things that show the electorate how unhinged the MSM is and how the Dems are rooting for the country to fail to get some kind of electoral advantage.

    DeNiro, another scumbag, is making that case too.

  153. Tina says:

    In 2011 or 2012, trump signaled to buy real estate. He was at or close to the bottom of the market, when he made the statement t.

  154. NYCmike says:

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/06/monday-in-pictures-g-7-photoshop-edition.php

    -A little levity, and a nice gift for jason/Robbie/Bitterlaw.

    “And as for Trump’s proposal that the G-7 become one big completely free trade zone, with no tariffs or trade barriers on anything, why that’s as silly as Reagan’s “Zero Option” for intermediate-range nuclear weapons in Europe! We all know how that silly idea turned out.”

  155. CG says:

    Myopic tribalists of all stripes root against good economic news, good diplomacy news, good military news, justified investigations, etc. etc, to suit their own political means.

    Unfortunately, it seems to be getting worse as tribalism increases.

    We saw it under GWB. We saw it under Obama and we are seeing it now. A comedian like Maher was “honest” enough to admit it though he will likely backtrack.

  156. Tina says:

    If he quits nafta, they will just do a treaty with Mexico, and a separate one with Canada.

    Fake eyebrows will have no tariff, as will Botox for Mika joe scar face.

  157. NYCmike says:

    “Myopic tribalists of all stripes….”

    -Except for “CG” that is…..

  158. Tina says:

    It’s about self preservation with Justine Eyebrown Truedope.

    He was stupid to renege on the deal. Now the communique is terminated.

    Everything was good until he found his inner socialist, with his Ukrainian trade rep.

  159. jason says:

    People are taking notice on how biased the MSM is against Trump. I know it’s obvious to junkies like us, but as Bitter likes to say, maybe its not a topic around the office water cooler.

    But I have heard people who are not very political comment that they think Trump is being treated unfairly.

    That is why I am such a strong supporter of Trump’s push back against the MSM. If even in a small way it breaks the lock of liberal group think that permeates 95% of the media, it will be worth it.

  160. CG says:

    There was a time when Seth Grossman was maligned on HHR as a “deadender” who would hurt the Republican Party but I assume times have changed and he is now the straight-talking hero that HHR desires.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/elections/seth-grossman-jeff-van-drew-new-jersey-congressional-election-primary-20180611.html

    I bet you all would elect Jul as “Governor” too.

  161. mnw says:

    Tgca

    Thanks for the update. All in all, that sounds encouraging.

  162. CG says:

    Nonetheless, the Rev. Jeffress would proudly tell us that one day Grossman is headed straight towards hell, (unless there is a Trump acolyte loophole.)

  163. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    118. “Peter Navarro, a socialist Democrat who supported Bill Clinton, is your new economic hero, right?”

    Navarro a socialist? Hardly. Prior to politics he was a strong advocate of reforming California’s arcane electrical power regulation system, and an advocate for using nuclear power.

    He wrote such radical academic studies as: “Costs of nuclear power plant construction; theory and new evidence.”; “The Hidden Potential of Macroeconomics in MBA Programs for CEOs”; “Aftershocks and Essential Lessons- From the California Electricity Debacle.” “Natural Wastewater Treatment: An Unfulfilled Potential.””The Power of Cyberlearning: An Empirical Test.” Am sure Robbie will find these all straight out of the socialist playbook.

    Navarro was a Republican, who became a Democrat to run for office. I knew Navarro, he was brilliant, brash, combative and loved controversy. Like many Harvard educated people, he had very high opinion of himself; and often was his own worst enemy.

  164. CG says:

    Long before Trump came along, Navarro was a frequent candidate for office who would be described as unabashedly leftist.

  165. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Has Fuhrer Mulehead found any collusion yet?
    Any indictments of the Russians that hacked the dnc server?”

    No, but hear he is about to indict a cleaning lady in Yakutsk. It a sealed indictment, so do not know on what grounds.

  166. Tina says:

    The dnc server is in pokestan.

  167. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    165. “Long before Trump came along, Navarro was a frequent candidate for office who would be described as unabashedly leftist.”

    I was living in San Diego at the time, he ran and lost races for mayor, congress and city council. He was a Democrat, but would not refer to his positions as “leftist.” More middle of the road. In San Diego at the time you had a bipartisan battle between what could be referred to as the old guard and reformers. He had a lot of Republican support in the mayoral run, which he got 48%. He carried many northern, heavily Republican precincts. When he ran for Congress in a more partisan race, he only go 42%. He is not very partisan, which is why he could easily transition into the Trump administration.

    As I said before, he is his own worst enemy. Although he may be doing well in the chaotic environment of the Trump administration.

  168. Tina says:

    Bill Clinton: Norms of ‘What You Can Do to Someone Against Their Will’ Have Changed.

    Omg, he is the gift that keeps on giving,

  169. Phil says:

    Democratic platform:

    F Trump

    How can the voters resist such a well thought out and comprehensive solution to national issues? It’s a winner!

  170. Tina says:

    Mentally invites president trump to pyonpang for 2nd summit.

  171. NYCmike says:

    Trump insisted that Trump Hotel Pyonyang be built first!

  172. NYCmike says:

    SDC,

    “CG” will be back shortly to let you know more about Peter Navarro. You CLEARLY have no knowledge of the man.

  173. CG says:

    SDC is incorrect that Navarro ran for Mayor as a Democrat. He ran as a left-leaning Independent.

    He was incredibly supportive of Obama Administration policies such as the lightbulbs. Pretty leftist.

  174. CG says:

    Navarro ran for Mayor on a “No Growth” platform.

    Very pro-carbon tax. Sounds like a leftist.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Navarro

  175. Messy says:

    166. I believe his name is Konstantin Kilimnik,BTW, Alex van der Zwaan, the first person to go to jail in the collusion case, has finished his sentence and has been deported.

  176. Messy says:

    167. Tina old girl, please remember that hacking doesn’t require the physical removal of a server. That’s why the joke’s on you….

  177. CG says:

    He stole Bill Clinton’s hand gestures too.

  178. Tina says:

    Mess lad.

    I am using your drat words.

    Hacked the server.

  179. JC says:

    Oi, it’s a ghost town here

  180. JC says:

    It’s being reported that Larry Kudlow has a heart attack

  181. Tgca says:

    176 Messy

    This is where you Libs get your facts wrong and try to lie. Alex van de Zwaan was not jailed for any Russian collusion. He was jailed for lying about his interactions between Manafort associates and a Ukrainian businessman that went back to a report prepared in 2012 by his law firm for work they were doing for Ukraine politicians.

    He was accused of lying about deleting emails in 2016 related to these 2012 transactions involving Manafort and the last time he spoke with Rick Gates. Mueller team accused him of trying to cover his tracks from 2012.

    This had nothing to do with the 2016 election.

    He was given a 30 day jail sentence and a $20K fine. Clearly, if he had colluded to violated federal election laws and alter the election, and was accused of treasonous behavior, he would not be going to jail for just 30 days.

    Why can’t you be honest about this? Absolutely nothing to do with the Trump campaign or the 2016 election. It was a lie about his past relationships in 2012 and the work he did for Manafort and Company.

  182. Chicon says:

    JC, the kooks are out….

  183. JC says:

    Chicon says:
    June 11, 2018 at 9:01 pm
    JC, the kooks are out
    ———————

    Ah, that explains it.

    Watching Whoa Fat! Waddle next to Trump is very amusing to me.

  184. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – JASON HAS BEEN BLASTING TRUMP’S TARIFFS AND TRADE WARS SINCE TRUMP PROPOSED THEM.

  185. Tgca says:

    Did George Stephanopoulos just referred to the president as president Chump! Then corrected himself to say President Trump. I can’t believe that. Scandalous!!!

  186. Tgca says:

    I noticed President Chump, I mean Trump, has extended his hand a few times and been very gracious thus far to the fat lil dictator. This is all part of his style, now let’s see how it goes. I guess we’ll know in about an hour.

  187. Bitterlaw says:

    WTF! They broke into The Batchelorette to show Trump and Kim meeting! Women will blame Trump.

  188. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe Trump should just offer $100 million and a condo to Kim in Florida if he quits being a dictator. Then Trump can help arrange the sale of North Korea to South Korea.

  189. Tina says:

    Mentally ill actually smiled several times.

    Looks like they hit it off.

    Anyway, long road. Several meetings. A

    This is historical.

  190. Tina says:

    Larry Kudlow had a heart attack and is at Walter Reed.

    I was worried about him after the Truedope stunt yesterday.

    He seemed to take Truedopes stunt very personally.

  191. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina blames a heart attack on the Canadian leader? I love this place.

  192. Tina says:

    Yeah, he caused the heart attack.

    Are you that dumb?

  193. mnw says:

    I don’t think Team PDT would’ve let things go this far unless they were certain that some sort of deal would come out of this.

  194. Tina says:

    Correct mnw. They have been speaking for awhile via phone imo.

  195. Bitterlaw says:

    I am smart enough for o know that you posted that Kudlow took the Canadian PM “seriously” and you were worried about him. Pretty obvious linkage you were making. Are you too stupid to read your own posts? Maybe that is why you copy and paste the links and tweets of others so often.

  196. Tgca says:

    My gut feeling is that really really big things will come from this summit. Its gonna be a UUUUGE success. This will go down as the greatest summit ever. There has never been a more successful summit. They worked really hard to make this a UUUUGE success. Nothing has ever been done like this before. Others have tried and failed. But we made this a UUUUGE success. I think it will be a model to be used for all future summits for all countries. It’s unprecedented folks. You’re really gonna be happy with the results. Just wait and see. Phenomenal success I tell you. Really really good things were done here today.

  197. Bitterlaw says:

    CC

    Tgca might want to tart weaning off the pain meds.

  198. Tgca says:

    I’m reading there are some expected job openings coming up in the WH after the fall elections. I think I might present myself as one of his speech writers. I could do this. It would be a UUUUGE opportunity for me. It can lead to other really really big things down the road.

  199. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca- You could write Trump’s speeches on ABORTION! Write them in pencil. His position changes quickly.

  200. Tina says:

    Nick Short ?? Retweeted
    Elizabeth Harrington
    Elizabeth Harrington
    @LizWFB
    Ben Rhodes on MSNBC just said how important it is to make sure you get inspections in any nuclear deal …
    9:11 AM · Jun 11, 2018

    Worked really well in The Iran Deal. /s

  201. Tina says:

    Poor bl, still reaching.

  202. Tina says:

    Can we ask the rinos, darts and never trumpets, if we are closer to ww3?

  203. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    173. “SDC, “CG” will be back shortly to let you know more about Peter Navarro. You CLEARLY have no knowledge of the man.”

    Yes, your right. Actually I knew him pretty well back then. Don’t think he was ever completely comfortable being a faux Democrat. Being a supposed flaming liberal, he certainly had no problem switching to the Trump camp.

  204. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    174. “SDC is incorrect that Navarro ran for Mayor as a Democrat. He ran as a left-leaning Independent. He was incredibly supportive of Obama Administration policies such as the lightbulbs. Pretty leftist.”

    I thought he was still a Republican at the time, and I was around him. San Diego politics is often non-partisan, alliances form between reform Republicans and Democrats; and old guard alliances of Republicans and Democrats.

    By the time Obama was elected, Navarro was long gone from San Diego politics. Was not aware light bulb choice could make you a leftist. I work with the energy industry, but favor a lot of conservation measures, like the new lightbulbs, recycling, water desalination, etc.

    Being an economists, not surprised Navarro supports a carbon tax. Many Republicans do. I strongly opposed to one.

    What I do remember Navarro as a strong advocate for was nuclear power. He also was involved in the California “managed growth” movement. Which had both Republicans and Democrats involved — it was non-partisan.

  205. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “194. Yeah, he caused the heart attack. Are you that dumb?”

    Tina, think your giving Trudeau more credit than he is worth. The last thing we want is for Trudeau to think he has the ability to cause a Trump adviser to have a heart attack. Its more likely something clogging Kudlow’s arteries.

  206. Mr.Vito says:

    “Its more likely something clogging Kudlow’s arteries.”

    Trudeau’s eyebrow?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW7Op86ox9g

  207. Wes says:

    McConnell becomes the longest serving GOP Senate Floor Leader in history today.

    If, as seems likely, Republicans hold the Senate in November, McConnell will become the longest serving GOP Senate Majority Leader in history late next year.

    Mikey is outraged.

  208. Bitterlaw says:

    While I am certain that NYC will be here soon to declare that this is the greatest summit in history, I will reserve judgment until the details are revealed. I am not thrilled that joint military exercises with South Korea will probably end.

  209. Tina says:

    Yes, Sdc, but the manner in which Kudlow, who is mild manner erupted the other day was telling. He was loud and took his work personally,

    He did not look well in any interview,

    Truedope did not cause the heart attack. It would be a function of his age, diet, work stress, etc.

  210. Cash Cow TM says:

    Tess Setts sets stress tests.

    (but not by the sea shore)

  211. Redmen4ever says:

    about heart attacks:

    For most men, the first warning of heart disease is a heart attack. Yes, stress can bring on a heart attack. Being that Larry made it to the hospital, we can be hopeful that the doctors will make Larry great again.

  212. Bitterlaw says:

    As a lawyer, I love non-commital “agreements.” NK will “work towards” denuclearization. Of course, Kim could just pick up the phone and call the nuclear scientists and workers and say, “You’re out of business. We’ll find something else for you to do.” He won’t.

    I give credit to Trump for trying. We’ll see ow it works out.

  213. Tina says:

    I want to know if there was a final resolution on what happened to Otto.

    When do we get the use pueblo back?

  214. Tina says:

    Uss pueblo*

  215. Tina says:

    Drats are livid now. They are now looking at collusion with Nk.

    They are insane.

    Btw, Jeff seasons needs to send notice to fuhrer Mulehead indicating that he did not recuse himself re the tax and registration issues involving manafort.

    There is still a chance that he Reagan judge will toss.

  216. Tina says:

    There is collusion now. Trump showed Kim Jung mentally ill the inside of the beast.

    Jebot

  217. Chicon says:

    Bitter, your hesitancy is justified, imo. I’ll point out that sanctions will remain in place until action occurs on their side. Seems like a good approach, but there’s no guarantee the North Koreans will follow through.

  218. Phil says:

    I also give Trump credit for trying. That is as far as I will go. I don’t like him giving compliments to the guy and basically patting the guy on the back. This loon is a brutal dictator who starves his people and runs a police state. He also has his rivals or perceived rivals murdered. I think he is playing Trump all the way. His family does that with every administration. They have a long history of it.

    If Obama had done this I would be outraged. I am not going to give Trump a pass on this because he is a Republican.

    Maybe I am wrong, but I seriously doubt it. I hope I am – but I don’t think so. I will be watching closely over the next months.

    I feel about this like I do with tariffs. When Trump is right I will support what he is doing. When he is wrong I will oppose him.

  219. Tina says:

    — Conor Finnegan (@cjf39) June 12, 2018

    “4 STATEMENTS BOTH COMMITTED TO: “1. The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new US-DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.”

    “2. The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.”

    “3. Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.”

    “4. The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.”

    “The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-on negotiations, led by the US Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the US-DPRK summit.”

    “Trump & “Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea have committed to cooperate for the development of new US-DPRK relations and for the promotion of peace, prosperity, and security of the Korean Peninsula and of the world.”

  220. Tina says:

    Denise is critical but there needs to be active involvement is us auditing and ensuring compliance.

  221. Tina says:

    Ok, the penguin and other cnners are praising trump.

    This must be a bad deal.

  222. Tina says:

    Phil, agreed. The nk have a history of lying.

    They need to answer for their border incursions into sk that killed many americans, the use pueblo incident, and ottos case.

  223. mnw says:

    Nixon got this same kind of heat about going to China.

    My view is, to borrow Marcus Aurelius’ famous question, “What is the essence of the thing?”

    The essence of THIS thing is to eliminate the nuclear threat posed by NK. NK is on the verge of having ICBMs with nuclear warheads which can reach the CONUS.

    I’m sorry about Otto Warmbler (sp?) & the USS Pueblo & all the rest, but the essence of THIS thing is far more important.

    Wm Buckley excoriated Nixon for his approach to Mao, a mass murderer if ever there was one. I find the Nixon/China situation, as it was viewed in the early ’70s, to be an excellent prism for viewing the new approach to NK.

  224. Robbie says:

    Donald Trump’s negotiating style – give the opposition everything they want, ask for nothing in return, and count on the sycophants on FoxNews and talk radio to declare victory.

    The praise Donald Trump heaped on Kim Jong Un was disgraceful, but Donnie has a soft spot for thugs like Putin and Erdogan. It was easily the worst moment of his presidency and I suspect/hope we go the rest of our lives and never see another moment like that from any president, Republican or Democrat.

    Of course, the MAGA morons will say Donnie saved the world and played 87 dimensional chess with Kim, but they’ll conveniently forget how they went bonkers when Obama bowed to the Saudi king.

  225. mnw says:

    49/50

  226. jason says:

    Messy is excited that after tens of millions of dollars someone finally went to jail for 30 days?

    I guess a grade school education is not what it used to be.

  227. Robbie says:

    If there was one person here I knew would give Dear Leader Trump a tongue bath for his disgraceful performance with Kim, it would be our Trump populist troll mnw.

    I am impressed he tried to use a big word like “essence” to support his Trump worship, but, predictably, mnw has no earthly idea of what he’s speaking.

    Dimwit Don gave Kim everything he could have wanted and got nothing in return but the same empty promises his father and grandfather gave presidents in 1992, 1994, and 2006.

    I wonder if mnw agrees with Dear Leader Trump’s claim the big winners from today’s disgrace are the 100,000 people Kim has in gulags?

    Tell me, mnw. What is the “essence of the thing” the prisoners got?

    Tell me, mnw. What is the essence of the thing South Korea got when Trump, without any consultation, unilaterally decided to end the war games because they “cost too much”?

    Tell me, mnw. What is the essence of the thing the US got by giving Kim so many concessions and getting nothing but a vague promise to maybe do something at some point in the future?

  228. Phil says:

    Approval rating for Trump pretty steady. Those that hate him hate him. Those that like him are going to like him. There isn’t a much moveable in the middle to swing one way or the other. The country is polarized right down the middle and has been for two decades now.

  229. jason says:

    If Trump found the cure to cancer the Amoral Scumbag would be here saying it will deplete the world’s resources by letting people live longer.

  230. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 9:46 am
    Messy is excited that after tens of millions of dollars someone finally went to jail for 30 days?
    I guess a grade school education is not what it used to be.

    – Jason fraud – “No man is above the law in America unless that man is Donald Trump and he has a R after his name. Of course Trump can pardon himself. Anyone involved in a witch hunt has that right. Pay no attention to the 20 witches who have been indicted. Pay no attention to the campaign chairman who is going to spend the rest of his life in prison. Pay no attention to the national security advisor who plead guilty. Pay not attention to the campaign aid Trump personally named who has plead guilty. It’s a witch hut, I tell you. A witch hunt.”

  231. Phil says:

    I have already said my piece on the summit. That said Robbie has no idea whether cancelling war game was not done without consultation with South Korea. I seriously doubt that wasn’t worked out in advance.

    I don’t like much at all with this, but the war games part with no consultation is the least of my worries.

  232. Chicon says:

    I’d be hesitant to get on a plane with Flyboy – he’s gone batty.

  233. jason says:

    Amoral scumbag has still not explained what “Trump gave away”.

    He didn’t give up troops in South Korea. He didn’t give up on the nuclear umbrella.

    If N Korea does de-nuke it will truly be an historic agreement and Trump will deserve great credit.

    Wobbie was never concerned about the thousands of political prisoners in Cuba when Obama went there to lick Castro’s boots and REALLY got nothing in return.

    If the agreement holds, there will be much more leverage than we have now to push for domestic changes in North Korea, but let’s stay focused on the 800 lb gorilla, which is to remove the threat of a nuclear war on the Korean peninsula.

  234. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 9:48 am
    If Trump found the cure to cancer the Amoral Scumbag would be here saying it will deplete the world’s resources by letting people live longer.

    – Always important to remember that Jason fraud believes I’m an amoral scumbag because I objected to Trump having sex with a porn star and a playmate while he was married to another woman and that woman had just had their only son, Barron.

    But MAGA morons have to support Dear Leader Trump. I’m sure Jason fraud is trying to find a way to defend Trump heaping lavish praise on Kim Jong Un. He’ll get there eventually. Once you trade away your integrity to support Trump, you can compromise on all kinds of things.

  235. Redmen4ever says:

    Zogby: by 53 to 47, American people are against a Nobel Prize for Donald Trump if he achieves peace on the Korean Peninsula.

    https://zogbyanalytics.com/news/853-the-zogby-poll-if-voters-had-to-re-cast-their-2016-presidential-vote-trump-and-clinton-would-be-tied-at-40-20-say-they-would-vote-for-a-minor-party-a-majority-of-voters-do-not-believe-trump-deserves-nobel-peace-prize-if-he-achieves-peace-in-korea

    Nancy Pelosi: peace in Korea is just crumbs.

    Bill Maher: if it takes a nuclear war to end Trump’s presidency, then I’m for nuclear war

    Robert De Niro; F*ck Donald Trump and Kim Jung Un too

    Dennis Rodman: Can’t we all just get along?

  236. jason says:

    Pay no attention to the 20 witches who have been indicted”

    I don’t.

    None of these sinister Russian hackers will ever go to jail for placing ads nobody read on Irish websites or whatever.

  237. mnw says:

    Phil 232

    I think that’s absolutely right.

  238. Chicon says:

    Phil, I respect your position on the summit. I disagree a bit, but that’s the way it goes. Flyboy on the other hand, is not stable right now. He’s simply trolling at this point, or he’s insane.

  239. Phil says:

    Chicon, a bit of both. Primarily it is insanity. De Niroism.

  240. jason says:

    m sure Jason fraud is trying to find a way to defend Trump heaping lavish praise on Kim Jong Un”

    Have you sent the check in to the York dogs?

    I assume you were not able to find any post where I was NOT critical of Trump calling Kim “honorable”.

    Or where I defended his tariffs?

    But look, it’s for a good cause.

  241. jason says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    June 11, 2018 at 9:12 pm

    Robbie – JASON HAS BEEN BLASTING TRUMP’S TARIFFS AND TRADE WARS SINCE TRUMP PROPOSED THEM.”

    Bitter, amoral scumbag can’t admit that because supposedly I support Trump on everything.

  242. Phil says:

    Jason, in Robbie’s world you are a Trump Chump unless you descend into De Niro territory. The fact that you oppose tariffs or have questions about Korea isn’t enough to prevent you from being a Trump lackey. The only acceptable position is total insane hatred of anything and everything Trump does. To Robbie, there is never any grey area on anything.

  243. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 12, 2018 at 9:53 am
    I have already said my piece on the summit. That said Robbie has no idea whether cancelling war game was not done without consultation with South Korea. I seriously doubt that wasn’t worked out in advance.

    – Phil, if you continue to believe anything Trump does is thought out and reasoned, then you’re going to continually be wrong.

    AP Politics
    ?@AP_Politics

    Trump has stunned the Korean Peninsula by announcing the stoppage of US-South Korean war games. Seoul’s presidential office tells the AP that it’s trying to discern the exact meaning and intent of Trump’s comments.

    Now, here’s on about the American military.

    The Washington Times
    ?@WashTimes

    Military says it’s received no guidance about canceling Korean war games

  244. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 12, 2018 at 9:53 am
    I’d be hesitant to get on a plane with Flyboy – he’s gone batty.

    – I wouldn’t be hesitant to deny boarding to a conspiratorial loon like you, though.

  245. Phil says:

    Pardon me if I don’t buy automatically buy into everything “reported” by the AP. No trust without verification and that goes for the media as well as North Korea.

  246. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 9:53 am
    Amoral scumbag has still not explained what “Trump gave away”.
    He didn’t give up troops in South Korea. He didn’t give up on the nuclear umbrella.
    If N Korea does de-nuke it will truly be an historic agreement and Trump will deserve great credit.
    Wobbie was never concerned about the thousands of political prisoners in Cuba when Obama went there to lick Castro’s boots and REALLY got nothing in return.
    If the agreement holds, there will be much more leverage than we have now to push for domestic changes in North Korea, but let’s stay focused on the 800 lb gorilla, which is to remove the threat of a nuclear war on the Korean peninsula.

    – Poor Jason fraud has resorted to if, if, if to defend Trump lavishing praise on Kim Jong Un.

    And by the way, I opposed 100% Obama’s opening to Cuba and said so. The Castro’s ran a slave state in Cuba.

  247. Tina says:

    The whole claim that we got nothing, and nk got everything is not supoorted by the facts,

    Prisoners were released.

    They halted nuke testing and destroyed one or two sites.

    This let to the meeting,

    I know the Drats are lying and throwing that lie out,

    Still a lot of work to ensure Denuke.

  248. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie:
    Let’s not forget that yesterday’s Letter of Understanding calls for the full and immediate repatriation of the remains of American servicemen from the Korean War. This is BIGLY and personally important to me and thousands of others.
    We await your snarky reply.

  249. Wes says:

    And by the way, I opposed 100% Obama’s opening to Cuba and said so. The Castro’s ran a slave state in Cuba.

    Heh. I knew leftists who praised Cuba because Castro gave the people free health care.

  250. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 12, 2018 at 9:57 am
    Phil, I respect your position on the summit. I disagree a bit, but that’s the way it goes. Flyboy on the other hand, is not stable right now. He’s simply trolling at this point, or he’s insane.

    – Yes, we should all pay attention to a conspiratorial loon who fell for the idiotic story that the DNC murdered Seth Rich. And by the way chiclown, why won’t you admit you fell for that idiocy? Troll maters won’t allow it, or you actually believe the DNC murdered Seth Rich?

    And I’m shocked, shocked I tell you, to learn an obvious pro-Trump troll like you who showed up right after Trump won would be supportive of Trump’s heaping lavish praise on a thug dictator.

    Can’t wait for you to tell us why Erdogan is a great guy.

  251. Tina says:

    Flyboy is not stable right now.

    Lol, flyboy has never been stable.

  252. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:06 am
    Jason, in Robbie’s world you are a Trump Chump unless you descend into De Niro territory. The fact that you oppose tariffs or have questions about Korea isn’t enough to prevent you from being a Trump lackey. The only acceptable position is total insane hatred of anything and everything Trump does. To Robbie, there is never any grey area on anything.

    – Total nonsense.

    A Trump chump is someone who unflinchingly supports Trump. You, to your credit, have never done that.

  253. Tina says:

    The most kiddos are enranged. The president gave mentally ill everything he wanted.

  254. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:12 am
    Pardon me if I don’t buy automatically buy into everything “reported” by the AP. No trust without verification and that goes for the media as well as North Korea.

    – So when presented with news the South Korean presidential office is trying to “discern” what Trump meant, you just reply “muh fake news”? Got it.

    What about the Washington Times story saying the American military had no idea Trump was going to cancel the exercises? Muh fake news too? Should our own military in the form of Mattis have know something like this was possible if this idiotic idea was thought out?

  255. Tina says:

    Do not worry Mulehead will indict the Russian hackers who hacked the dnc server.

    Fuhrer Mulehead sent comrade Weissman to personally look at the dnc server

  256. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:18 am
    Flyboy is not stable right now.
    Lol, flyboy has never been stable.

    – Well, if anyone should know about instability, I guess sit would be you.

  257. Wes says:

    Robbie, the 2016 primaries are ovrr. JEB! lost. Get over it.

  258. Tina says:

    Grasselys and Nunez are at another crossroad with swampstein.

    Grasselys wants the 302 from fib agent pientka who apparently will testify that Lynn’s 302 was altered by McCabe or sjw Yates. Comedy has testified that Flynn did not lie, but he reversed himself peddling his little book.

    At this point, they need to impeach and hold in contempt Swampstein.

    Swampstein is playing too many games regarding congressional oversight,

  259. jason says:

    A Trump chump is someone who unflinchingly supports Trump.”

    Yep, that’s me.

    Unflinching support for Trump. LOL.

    And he wonders why I call him an amoral scumbag.

  260. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:15 am
    Robbie:
    Let’s not forget that yesterday’s Letter of Understanding calls for the full and immediate repatriation of the remains of American servicemen from the Korean War. This is BIGLY and personally important to me and thousands of others.
    We await your snarky reply.

    – That’s good news, but did North Korea decide to end its price tag of $1,000,000 for the removal of remains because that’s what North Korea charges the US to reclaim its war dead.

  261. jason says:

    Christiana Amanpour, Obama lackey, is against the agreement.

    What a surprise.

    She thought the Iran deal was wonderful.

  262. Tina says:

    Then, Mr. Sessions needs to send fuhrer Mulehead his letter stating that he did not recuse himself from manaforts tax and business dealings.

    That defanged Mulehead, or the ruling from the Reagan judge will defange fuhrer.

  263. Phil says:

    Let’s be clear. So far Trump has not given NK anything of value outside of a photo op – which I don’t like BTW. Now, if over the next six months it turns out that Trump has given ANYTHING of value to Kim in a unilateral way I’ll oppose him with everything I have. If he sets up anything like the joke of verification that existed with the Iranian joke deal I will oppose it with everything I have. If he loosens sanctions before Korea denuclearizes I will strongly and loudly oppose him on it.

    In other words I will be watching closely the implementation of the understanding. That in itself means nothing. The devil will be in the details and I am a skeptic who would love to be proven wrong.

  264. Tina says:

    Amanpour was for the pile of cash sent to the mullahs so that they can get not Syria, Yemen, and enhance their positions in Lebanon.

    The only thing is that the mullahs are being pounded in all 3 countries now thanks to the gcc. They over stretched their supply lines too.

  265. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:24 am
    Robbie, the 2016 primaries are ovrr. JEB! lost. Get over it.

    – Top flight response. Yes, this has everything to do with a guy who ran a terrible campaign and quit the race after three contests.

    It has nothing to do with an erratic, unprepared leader who makes friends with dictators and makes enemies of allies.

    Maybe you and Jason fraud should get a room?

  266. mnw says:

    I posted about the Seattle “head tax” when it was passed into law, because I thought it was so bizarre & economically suicidal. The “head tax” would’ve charged large Seattle employers $250/employee to “help the homeless,” recall?

    The same city council that passed it about a month ago, just repealed it. Amazon, Starbucks & others explained that “if you don’t want us to invest here, plenty of other cities DO.”

    The self-styled “most progressive city in America!” quickly surrendered.

    Too bad… that tax would’ve ended homelessness forever. /s

  267. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:28 am
    A Trump chump is someone who unflinchingly supports Trump.”
    Yep, that’s me.
    Unflinching support for Trump. LOL.
    And he wonders why I call him an amoral scumbag.

    – I’ve never called you a Trump chump or a MAGA moron. I’ve just called you a fraud.

  268. jason says:

    And btw, IF Trump really unilaterally pledged to discontinue military exercises I would not support that, unless it was traded for something concrete like North Korea pulling troops from the border for example.

    Oh wait, I am an “unflinching” supporter.

  269. Tina says:

    The only thing I see that trump gave mentally ill is a peek at the presidential car.

    That is it,

    Mentally ill fits the profile of a boy in a mans body,

  270. jason says:

    I’ve never called you a Trump chump”

    Wow, amoral scumbag lies again.

    “Jason, in Robbie’s world you are a Trump Chump unless you descend into De Niro territory. The fact that you oppose tariffs or have questions about Korea isn’t enough to prevent you from being a Trump lackey. The only acceptable position is total insane hatred of anything and everything Trump does. To Robbie, there is never any grey area on anything.

    – Total nonsense.”

  271. Robbie says:

    The one thing I know for certain is this.

    Had Obama done precisely what Trump did, this forum, conservative radio, and FoxNews would be outraged and calling for his resignation or impeachment.

    But because Trump puts a R after his name, many are willing to cut him some slack. The slack they were unwilling to cut Obama when he “bowed” to the Saudi king, by the way.

  272. mnw says:

    Tina 270

    Since PDT pulled out of the JCPOA, Iran’s currency is starting to go the Venezuela route, too.

  273. jason says:

    Wes says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:24 am
    Robbie, the 2016 primaries are ovrr. JEB! lost. Get over it.”

    Yep, in the end that’s always what its about.

    Poor bastard still pining for Jeb while the world moves on.

  274. Tina says:

    The only things agreed to were the four provisions I cited above.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/details-of-trump-kim-singaporesummit-document/

  275. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:32 am
    And btw, IF Trump really unilaterally pledged to discontinue military exercises I would not support that, unless it was traded for something concrete like North Korea pulling troops from the border for example.
    Oh wait, I am an “unflinching” supporter.

    – First, I never called you an unflinching Trump supporter. I called you a fraud.

    Second, I love how you coach everything with “if”. Trump is not some master negotiator. He offered nothing but carrots to Kim.

    If Trump was a master negotiator, why did he only a get a $10,000 raise for season 2 of the Apprentice. He made $50,000 in year 1 and asked for $1,000,000 in year 2. So instead of getting a $950,000 raise per episode, he got $10,000. Yeah, some negotiator.

  276. mnw says:

    Tina 275

    Did u know that Trump also showed Kim a 4-minute video on what NK could be like, if it does a 180?

    The video is widely available online. That’s VERY Trumpian, imo.

  277. Phil says:

    Yeah, Amanpour has always been and remains a political hack. She probably opposes Trump’s agreement for reasons different from me – namely that we didn’t provide NK with enough cash up front.

    As far as anything coming out of the MSM they have a track record regarding Trump and they have been caught in numerous BS news stories over the last several years. No, Robbie, I don’t automatically buy into everything they print like you do. Doesn’t mean everything they print is a lie – just that they have been caught plenty shading the truth and they definitely have an agenda. They’ve done shading the truth to support their leftist agenda to keep me from automatically lapping up everything they serve up.

  278. Tina says:

    The left now want Mulehead to look at trump, nk collusion.

    They are unhinged also because trump shook mentally ills hands,

    Forgetting that Nixon shook Mao Zaedongs hands.

    Reagan shook gorbachevs hands.

    Clinton and the Vietnamese leader.

    Look for a run on prescriptions by the ds today.

  279. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:35 am
    I’ve never called you a Trump chump”
    Wow, amoral scumbag lies again.
    “Jason, in Robbie’s world you are a Trump Chump unless you descend into De Niro territory. The fact that you oppose tariffs or have questions about Korea isn’t enough to prevent you from being a Trump lackey. The only acceptable position is total insane hatred of anything and everything Trump does. To Robbie, there is never any grey area on anything.
    – Total nonsense.”

    – Those aren’t my words. Those are Phil’s words you stupid idiot.

    Try harder next time, or at least read more closely you fool.

  280. jason says:

    But because Trump puts a R after his name,”

    Goebbels would be proud of this lie being repeated over and over.

    Like I ever said Trump was a Republican

    Like I even call myself a Republican anymore.

    I give Trump credit when I think he is doing something positive for the country.

    I think trying to get North Korea to give up nukes is positive for the country.

    Comparing this to “bowing to the Saudi King” is really a joke. Obama went around the world apologizing for America for 8 years. Yeah, I was against that. Have you seen Trump apologizing for America yet?

    GFY.

  281. Chicon says:

    279 -:JEB! has moved on to a larger degree than Flyboy.

    Interesting that MDII hasn’t mentioned much about November since his hiatus ended.

  282. Tina says:

    Mnw, no I went to bed early. I will look at it. Seems like they were well prepared for this meeting thanks to Pompeo. The video sounds like the work of a business man,

    The slimes indicated that a source said they were not prepared.

  283. jason says:

    – Those aren’t my words. Those are Phil’s words you stupid idiot.”

    Zzzzzzz…..

    “That’s nonsene” were YOUR WORDS.

    You disagreed with him and called me a Trump chump.

    No free lunch.

    You are the one who is too stupid to try to lie about something you just wrote.

  284. Robbie says:

    As far as anything coming out of the MSM they have a track record regarding Trump and they have been caught in numerous BS news stories over the last several years. No, Robbie, I don’t automatically buy into everything they print like you do. Doesn’t mean everything they print is a lie – just that they have been caught plenty shading the truth and they definitely have an agenda. They’ve done shading the truth to support their leftist agenda to keep me from automatically lapping up everything they serve up.

    – In the age of Trump, any story negative towards him must initially be viewed as fake news by his supporters.

  285. Tina says:

    Failed jeb has not moved on.

    Last week, he came out and attacked the president for attacking his opponents.

    Jeb rah does not want the president to attack back. Wants him to be attacked though, and stay mute.

  286. Tina says:

    I add 2 more requests to nk

    The return of the pueblo

    Full accounting of what happened to Otto.

  287. Wes says:

    That worked out so well when GWB tried it, Tina.

  288. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:45 am
    – Those aren’t my words. Those are Phil’s words you stupid idiot.”
    Zzzzzzz…..
    “That’s nonsene” were YOUR WORDS.
    You disagreed with him and called me a Trump chump.
    No free lunch.
    You are the one who is too stupid to try to lie about something you just wrote.

    – Trumpism must be something like mad cow disease because it’s eating away at your brain.

    I have never called you a Trump Trump or a MAGA moron. I’ve just called you a fraud because you’re a fraud.

    You hated Trump everyday of the campaign, you didn’t vote for him, you left the party over him and now you defend everything his does, including lavishing praise on Kim simply because he won with a R after his name.

    That’s being a fraud.

  289. jason says:

    If Trump was a master negotiator, why did he only a get a $10,000 raise for season 2 of the Apprentice. He made $50,000 in year 1 and asked for $1,000,000 in year 2. So instead of getting a $950,000 raise per episode, he got $10,000. Yeah, some negotiator.”

    LOL

    Amoral scumbag thinks the Apprentice was Trump’s full time job.

    The money he made on the apprentice was peanuts to him. He probably got more than that in interest in a month than he made on the Apprentice all year.

    The guy is a billionaire, whether he made $50 k or $1 million per episode would be meaningless.

    You really are beyond stupid.

  290. jason says:

    now you defend everything his does,”

    Yeah right. This is hilarious.

    So mnw, Chicon, Tina, etc. what do you think of the statement that “I defend everything Trump does”?

  291. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:44 am
    279 -:JEB! has moved on to a larger degree than Flyboy.
    Interesting that MDII hasn’t mentioned much about November since his hiatus ended.

    – Why won’t you admit you fell for two laughable conspiracy theories, chiclown?

    Why won’t you admit you actually believed the DNC murdered Seth Rich?

    Why won’t you admit you actually believed Napolitano’s laughable claim, given to him by nutjob Larry Johnson, that Obama used British intelligence to spy on Trump?

    Just admit you were fooled.

  292. Wes says:

    Since Trump took office, Robbie has made one lucid point about him:

    When Trump acts presidential, his polls rise as Americans develop respect for his performance in the office. (Paraphrasing of course.)

    The rest is hyperbolic personal assaults attacking Trump for the cardinal sin of denying JEB! the GOP presidential nomination in 2016.

  293. mnw says:

    jason 296

    It’s delusional.

  294. jason says:

    Trump destroyed 17 opponents in the primaries against all odds and beat Hillary in the GE against all odds.

    Meanwhile, Wobbie is still talking about Trump being “a bad negotiator” in the Apprentice.

    Did he lose $20 on 3 Card Monte when he was 18 too?

  295. Tina says:

    Mnw, there are crippling strikes that have begun in Iran. Specifically, a truckers strike.

    The pile of cash that the jebots and obumbler gave to Iran was a poor foreign policy decision.

    The Iranians lost most of their real estate in Yemen, the Saudis are beating them,

    They are getting hit hard too in Syria.

    They are losing a lot of men and military leaders.

    They are being crippled quickly.

  296. Phil says:

    I am not naïve. Every story not flattering to Trump is not fake news. Some of it is. Every story printed by the NYT sure as hell isn’t gospel. That’s been demonstrated repeatedly. When it comes to the MSM I don’t trust without verification. Seems like a rational stance to me.

  297. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:48 am
    If Trump was a master negotiator, why did he only a get a $10,000 raise for season 2 of the Apprentice. He made $50,000 in year 1 and asked for $1,000,000 in year 2. So instead of getting a $950,000 raise per episode, he got $10,000. Yeah, some negotiator.”
    LOL
    Amoral scumbag thinks the Apprentice was Trump’s full time job.
    The money he made on the apprentice was peanuts to him. He probably got more than that in interest in a month than he made on the Apprentice all year.
    The guy is a billionaire, whether he made $50 k or $1 million per episode would be meaningless.
    You really are beyond stupid.

    – LOL! Poor Jason fraud. When presented with evidence that Trump is not some master negotiator, he resorts to the tried and true Trumpaloo tactic of saying “Mr. Trump so rich, it doesn’t matter”.

    I appreciate your effort to change the subject and still find a way to heap praise of Trump, but I’ve got bad news for you Jason fraud. Trump’s an awful negotiator. He gave away long held US/ROK positions without consulting the ROK or his own military.

  298. jason says:

    Just admit you were fooled.”

    This is from someone who thought Jeb Bush was a viable candidate.

  299. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:51 am
    Since Trump took office, Robbie has made one lucid point about him:
    When Trump acts presidential, his polls rise as Americans develop respect for his performance in the office. (Paraphrasing of course.)
    The rest is hyperbolic personal assaults attacking Trump for the cardinal sin of denying JEB! the GOP presidential nomination in 2016.

    – Trump’s an awful person who has no business being president. And when he acts in ways that embarrasses the office or the country, I’m going to attack him just the way you attack GWB for being a war criminal.

    By the way, is it still 1970?

  300. jason says:

    LOL! Poor Jason fraud. When presented with evidence that Trump is not some master negotiator, he resorts to the tried and true Trumpaloo tactic of saying “Mr. Trump so rich, it doesn’t matter”.

    That is not “evidence” at all.

    It’s just a stupid gratuitous attack that YOU know is just BS.

    Trump didn’t do the Apprentice for money.

    Everyone in the world, including you, knows that.

  301. Tina says:

    Jason, you and trump disagree on tariffs or protectionism. That is clear from your posts. You actually came up with a funny nickname about Rs supporting protectionism,

    The Jebot knows that but it’s elevator does not reach the top.

    The Jebot will soon tag out and tag in the Clinton .groupie.

  302. Chicon says:

    296 – it is so obviously wrong that Flyboy is either lying or nuts. Can’t be anything else.

  303. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:54 am
    Trump destroyed 17 opponents in the primaries against all odds and beat Hillary in the GE against all odds.
    Meanwhile, Wobbie is still talking about Trump being “a bad negotiator” in the Apprentice.
    Did he lose $20 on 3 Card Monte when he was 18 too?

    – His sycophants and loyalists in the press say Trump is the world’s best negotiator. You made the case earlier that Trump had to have gotten concessions before he agreed to end military exercise.

    I pointed out that Trump is a terrible negotiator who has a habit of giving away the store for nothing or nearly nothing in return. If you’re going to defend his decisions based on his negotiating prowess, I’m going to argue he’s a bad negotiator.

    Deal with it, fraud.

  304. Tina says:

    I ignore all media reports from unnamed source or unnamed sources, or former gunment officials.

    Pretty telling that the media has no current admin source and that it is bs.

  305. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:56 am
    Just admit you were fooled.”
    This is from someone who thought Jeb Bush was a viable candidate.

    – This from a guy who thought Rubio had a shot.

  306. Wes says:

    It’s looking a lot more like 1970 than 1930, Robbie–though I know you wish the latter election were the template for November to punish the GOP for JEB!’s failure to win the nomination.

    By the way, although GWB was a lazy, stupid, inarticulate, incompetent, irresponsible dolt who had all the political skills of a pitcher plant, I’ve never attacked him as a war criminal.

    He was simply a moron too stupid to know how to run a war or conduct a competent administration whose detachment from reality cost thousands their lives and led to the inevitable rise of Obama.

  307. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:58 am
    LOL! Poor Jason fraud. When presented with evidence that Trump is not some master negotiator, he resorts to the tried and true Trumpaloo tactic of saying “Mr. Trump so rich, it doesn’t matter”.
    That is not “evidence” at all.
    It’s just a stupid gratuitous attack that YOU know is just BS.
    Trump didn’t do the Apprentice for money.
    Everyone in the world, including you, knows that.

    – Jason fraud, who specializes in gratuitous attacks, get’s huffy when someone attacks Trump. Poor baby. Do you need a safe space to calm down?

  308. jason says:

    Let me finish it for the Amoral Scumbag.

    I’m going to attack him just the way I attacked Romney, just the way I attacked Rubio, just the way I attacked Kasich, just the way I attacked Walker, just the way I attacked Christie, just the way I would attack Pence if he were a candidate or President, just the way I attack ANYONE who is not named Jeb Bush”.

    No MSM lie or scurrilous attack is ever too outlandish for Amoral scumbag to regurgitate here, yet he accuses others of believing “conspiracy theories”

    The hypocrisy is astounding.

  309. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:59 am
    296 – it is so obviously wrong that Flyboy is either lying or nuts. Can’t be anything else

    – Are you ever going to admit you fell for two laughable conspiracies, or should we just conclude you still believe them?

    I’ve been asking you this more than a year and you have always avoided the question so clearly you don’t want to address it.

    Is that on orders from your troll master or simply because you do believe the DNC murdered Seth Rich and Obama used British intelligence to spy on Trump?

  310. Chicon says:

    314 – I believe it is more delusional than conscious hypocrisy. He’s now in MD territory.

  311. Wes says:

    What exactly is collusion regarding Russia, Robbie?

    You said on here you think Trump TRIED to collude with the Russians.

  312. jason says:

    This from a guy who thought Rubio had a shot.”

    You really want to compare the front running juggernaut guy who spent $200 million for 4 delegates and lost EVERY debate despite you telling us he would “clear the field” with Rubio’s underdog campaign.

    Really? Rubio was 100 times better a candidate than Jeb was, only you would not admit that.

    And at least I am willing to move on from the fact my candidate didn’t win.

  313. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:01 am
    It’s looking a lot more like 1970 than 1930, Robbie–though I know you wish the latter election were the template for November to punish the GOP for JEB!’s failure to win the nomination.
    By the way, although GWB was a lazy, stupid, inarticulate, incompetent, irresponsible dolt who had all the political skills of a pitcher plant, I’ve never attacked him as a war criminal.
    He was simply a moron too stupid to know how to run a war or conduct a competent administration whose detachment from reality cost thousands their lives and led to the inevitable rise of Obama.

    – The legitimate polls (not Rasmussen) show Democrats with a 7 or 8 point lead. Democrats are going to pick up between 30 and 40 House seats. That’s a wave by any definition.

  314. Wes says:

    Does anyone else envision Robbie as wearing a Hannibal Lecter mask during his anti-Trump tirades?

  315. jason says:

    The guy who said he would be coming here to celebrate Obama’s win wants us to believe he just attacks Trump when he “embarrasses America”.

    Yep, there is not cure for that kind of delusion.

  316. Wes says:

    The latest round of polling does show that. The round before that showed closer results.

    This is a marathon, not a sprint.

    You of course declared Dems would enjoy a wave in 2016 too.

    How’d that work out for you?

  317. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:01 am
    It’s looking a lot more like 1970 than 1930, Robbie–though I know you wish the latter election were the template for November to punish the GOP for JEB!’s failure to win the nomination.
    By the way, although GWB was a lazy, stupid, inarticulate, incompetent, irresponsible dolt who had all the political skills of a pitcher plant, I’ve never attacked him as a war criminal.
    He was simply a moron too stupid to know how to run a war or conduct a competent administration whose detachment from reality cost thousands their lives and led to the inevitable rise of Obama.

    – The legitimate polls (not Rasmussen) show Democrats with a 7 or 8 point lead. They are on track to pick up between 30 and 40 House seats. That’s a wave by any definition.

    The Senate is a different story because of where the races are being held, but Republicans will leave a few winnable races on the table because of the national atmosphere and Trump’s low approval rating.

    But if you want to reply “Jeb” to any post of mine you don’t like, go ahead.

  318. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:02 am
    Let me finish it for the Amoral Scumbag.
    I’m going to attack him just the way I attacked Romney, just the way I attacked Rubio, just the way I attacked Kasich, just the way I attacked Walker, just the way I attacked Christie, just the way I would attack Pence if he were a candidate or President, just the way I attack ANYONE who is not named Jeb Bush”.
    No MSM lie or scurrilous attack is ever too outlandish for Amoral scumbag to regurgitate here, yet he accuses others of believing “conspiracy theories”
    The hypocrisy is astounding.

    – Yawn. You’re Colonel Nicholson from Bridge On the River Kwai. You’ll find your bearings at some point, but probably only after the fact.

  319. Wes says:

    By the way, Robbie, primary turnout is a gauge of voter enthusiasm. Republicans are just as likely to turn out as Dems based on the metrics we’ve seen thus far.

    That’s just a simple fact. We’re not seeing 2006 or 2008 levels of support for the Dems in the primaries we’ve seen thus far.

  320. Wes says:

    Robbie probably put in an order of wine by the crate from the local winery to celebrate his vindication of the insidious evil of Trump if Dems do get their November wave.

  321. jason says:

    The legitimate polls (not Rasmussen) show Democrats with a 7 or 8 point lead.”

    LOL

    “Legitimate polls” – any poll that supports Amoral Scumbag’s latest theory.

    I notice he is no longer talking about how Trump’s disapproval rate will doom the GOP UNLESS Trump can get to 45% approval.

    Now that Trump is at 45%, the goal posts have moved. Now its the 7 or 8 point lead on the generic ballot.

    Stay tuned.

  322. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:05 am
    What exactly is collusion regarding Russia, Robbie?
    You said on here you think Trump TRIED to collude with the Russians.

    – Boy we’re all over the place today, aren’t we.

    I’ll repeat what I have said hundreds of times about this.

    I believe elements of Trump’s campaign actively sought to conspire with Russian agents claiming to have dirt on Clinton. The best example is Don Jr holding a meeting with Russian intelligence officials claiming to offer dirt on Hillary. “If it’s what you say, I love it”.

    As far as Trump and conspiracy/collusion personally , I doubt he had any direct knowledge of the efforts and I have said that repeatedly. He may have had a sense people were looking for the goods on Hillary, but I have no reason to believe he was orchestrating anything. He’s too incompetent.

  323. Tina says:

    Looks like

    Ben Shapiro aka Milky Way is also melting down.

    Maybe he can sit down for tea with the socialist,

  324. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:09 am
    Does anyone else envision Robbie as wearing a Hannibal Lecter mask during his anti-Trump tirades?

    – Does anyone envision Wes holding up a phot of Cindy Sheehan when he calls GWB a war criminal?

  325. jason says:

    Amoral scumbag wants the Dems to win control of Congress because it will be “bad” for Trump.

    Just another version of scumbag Maher’s “I hope there is a recession so we can get rid of Trump”.

    Amoral scumbag is probably hoping for a recession too to go along with his hope of “collusion”.

  326. Tina says:

    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    @NolteNC
    ·
    5m
    Those claiming nothing has been accomplished or come out of the Trump/Kim negotiations conveniently forget 3 hostages, the end of NoKo flying missiles over Japan, and NoKo dismantling a massive nuke site.

    People need to stop lying.

    This was all before we got to Singapore.

  327. Wes says:

    You have me confused with Bunu, Robbie. (No surprise given what your chronic TDS has done to your brain.) He attacked GWB as a war criminal. I actually savaged him for that. As I stated above, I have never said GWB was a war criminal.

  328. Redmen4ever says:

    Just three unanswered questions regaring Singapore:

    1. How do we monitor and enforce an agreement?

    2. What’s the quid pro quo for our side?

    3. How did Dennis Rodman get through the metal detectors?

  329. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:16 am
    Robbie probably put in an order of wine by the crate from the local winery to celebrate his vindication of the insidious evil of Trump if Dems do get their November wave.

    – Is this the best you’ve got? Seriously? Try harder.

    I don’t want to see Republicans lose control of the House, but the my view is they’re well on their way to doing so.

    Presidential approval is the single best predictor of a president’s party’s performance in a midterm. Donnie’s approval is below 45% in the RCP average. That plenty bad enough for Democrats to gain 30-40 seats.

    I guess they could screw up a sure thing, though.

  330. jason says:

    The best example is Don Jr holding a meeting with Russian intelligence officials claiming to offer dirt on Hillary. “If it’s what you say, I love it”.

    Nothing illegal about that, of course. And the meeting was not with “Russian intelligence officials” and even IF it had been it wasn’t scheduled as such.

    Don Jr. is also on record as saying the Russians had nothing to offer on Hillary except vague statements of campaign violations.

  331. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:17 am
    The legitimate polls (not Rasmussen) show Democrats with a 7 or 8 point lead.”
    LOL
    “Legitimate polls” – any poll that supports Amoral Scumbag’s latest theory.
    I notice he is no longer talking about how Trump’s disapproval rate will doom the GOP UNLESS Trump can get to 45% approval.
    Now that Trump is at 45%, the goal posts have moved. Now its the 7 or 8 point lead on the generic ballot.

    – Again, try harder. I have written hundreds of times that it’s “45% in the RCP average”, fraud. And today, he’s 43% in RCP.

  332. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:19 am
    Amoral scumbag wants the Dems to win control of Congress because it will be “bad” for Trump.
    Just another version of scumbag Maher’s “I hope there is a recession so we can get rid of Trump”.
    Amoral scumbag is probably hoping for a recession too to go along with his hope of “collusion”.

    – No. I don’t. But thanks for lying about my view, fraud.

  333. jason says:

    Donnie’s approval is below 45% in the RCP average.”

    It’s at 43.1%.

    Watch the goalposts move when it reaches 45%.

  334. Chicon says:

    331 – No.

  335. Wes says:

    I’m just going by your history, Robbie. As soon as JEB! concefed you immediately started salivating over seeing every Republican running for Senate lose. You clearly want Republicans to suffer if JEB! can’t be President.

  336. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:21 am
    You have me confused with Bunu, Robbie. (No surprise given what your chronic TDS has done to your brain.) He attacked GWB as a war criminal. I actually savaged him for that. As I stated above, I have never said GWB was a war criminal.

    – Then withdrawn and I apologize.

  337. Wes says:

    Conceded*

  338. Tina says:

    Yes, the rinos can screw up by demanding amnesty right before the election, splitting the r party.

    I warned about this and now we may have some proof of it as the the gab starts to widen a bit. The last election results from ca seem to contradict the polling thoug.

  339. mnw says:

    Tina

    On Iran, ALL the factors are coming together. And the internal dissent undoubtedly worries them the most.

    Since the thread has moved in that direction, here are some things where I disagree with Trump myself:

    1) Tweets, especially his regrettable habit of “punching down” at every celebrity or journo midget who gets on his nerves.

    2) Pardons.

    3) Prison “reform.”

    4) Going after all our tariff adversaries simultaneously, instead of one at a time.

    5) Not cutting the federal work force far MORE, & publicizing it too.

  340. Chicon says:

    334 – Wes, Flyboy’s relationship with reality is tenuous.

  341. Wes says:

    Notice Robbie had no response to 324 or 326.

  342. Tina says:

    Trumps meeting was set up though by the dossier plants.

    Once the Russian lady got in, surveillance of trump tower began.

    It was halted by Rodgers who moved the transition team to nj.

    The Russian lady is a plant because she got the special last minute visa to get into the country and met with the fusion gps guy before and after.

    If the trump Jr. Meeting was illegal, he would have been charged.

    But know fuhrer charged Russia’s nobody’s that ran a Facebook ad seen by 300 people,

  343. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:23 am
    The best example is Don Jr holding a meeting with Russian intelligence officials claiming to offer dirt on Hillary. “If it’s what you say, I love it”.
    Nothing illegal about that, of course. And the meeting was not with “Russian intelligence officials” and even IF it had been it wasn’t scheduled as such.
    Don Jr. is also on record as saying the Russians had nothing to offer on Hillary except vague statements of campaign violations.

    – LOL. Because Don Jr. hasn’t lied at all about the meeting.

    Day 1, it’s was only about adoption.

    Day 2, it was primarily about adoption.

    Day 3, sure they mentioned something about Hillary emails.

    Day 4, ok it was about Hillary’s emails and here are my emails showing that.

  344. Tina says:

    Mnw, he needs to tweet though, but not pounch down at the media Drats, like Mina joe scar farce.

    I disagreed with him on the tax cuts, I would have refocused them a bit more, like I said, I get a higher tax bill despite the cuts.

  345. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:27 am
    331 – No.

    – Still won’t answer why you fell for conspiracies about Seth Rich.

  346. Tina says:

    I also disagreed with hi on the tariffs. I do understand his approach,

    He needed to hit back hard on Justine Truedope for ruining the g-7, but it has been largely run by mullah Merkel the last decade or so,

  347. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:27 am
    I’m just going by your history, Robbie. As soon as JEB! concefed you immediately started salivating over seeing every Republican running for Senate lose. You clearly want Republicans to suffer if JEB! can’t be President.

    – Wrong. After it became clear Trump would be the nominee, I advocated every day from March forward that we either needed a contested convention to stop Trump or a third party run by Romney.

    Why, because I feared (not salivated) a Trump nomination would drag down House and Senate candidates all over the country.

  348. Chicon says:

    Robbie, you are no longer worth having a discussion with on substantive matters.

  349. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:27 am
    Donnie’s approval is below 45% in the RCP average.”
    It’s at 43.1%.
    Watch the goalposts move when it reaches 45%.

    – Let’s see what happens if he does get there and stay there. I won’t hold my breath.

  350. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:29 am
    334 – Wes, Flyboy’s relationship with reality is tenuous.

    – Says the guy who believed the DNC murdered Seth Rich and that Obama used British intelligence to spy on Trump.

  351. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:30 am
    Notice Robbie had no response to 324 or 326.

    – My response is those are opinions just as my view is an opinion. I didn’t find the NBC piece, when I read it last week, to be particularly persuasive.

    If you show me Trump’s approval rating up consistently above 45% in the RCP average, then I’ll change my view. He’s not there.

  352. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 12, 2018 at 11:36 am
    Robbie, you are no longer worth having a discussion with on substantive matters.

    – To be fair, I never thought you were worth having a discussion with. You’re a conspiratorial loon who believed the DNC murdered Seth Rich.

    That said, you’ll keep responding to me. Like a moth to flame. When someone attacks your dear leader, you’ll fight back. That’s why you suddenly showed up on election night to start supporting Trump.

  353. jason says:

    I advocated every day from March forward that we either needed a contested convention to stop Trump or a third party run by Romney.”

    And when Romney was running you wanted a brokered convention to stop him.

    Lying amoral scumbag.

  354. mnw says:

    Trump will be holding a rally in Duluth next Wed. He clearly hopes to flip the open MN-08 seat from blue to red. Trump carried the district narrowly, & for once the inc DEM is retiring.

    I do so hope (& expect) that Keith Ellison & Ilhan Omar are on the GE ballot up there. Should be fun to see how eager the other DEMs on the state ticket are to appear with Ellison.

  355. Robbie says:

    Bob Corker on Trump’s decision to end military exercise.

    “Our allies in the region were unaware of that and I don’t think the Pentagon was aware of it as I understand it. Sometimes, I think the president has a tendency to say things that are ad hoc – that haven’t been vetted and sometimes those things are walked back.”

    Wait a minute. I was assured there had to be some sort of coordination before a comment like this would have been made by Trump. Fake news I guess.

  356. jason says:

    A Pennsylvania man on Friday allegedly defecated on a fellow driver after the two engaged in a road rage argument, Lehigh Valley Live reported.”

    Enough is enough.

    We need to ban crap before more people get sh-t upon.

    Hogg should jump on this.

  357. DW says:

    Here is the dashboard again, showing additional lines where Robbie’s 30 to 50 flips he predicted in January would play out:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Score
    ———————————————————–
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2
    FL_25 R | 165 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.8
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    CA_50 R | 171 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    NC_02 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    OH_14 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    WI_06 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8
    ——-HIGH of 50 flips predicted by Robbie——-
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    KY_06 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    MI_08 R | 204 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2
    TX_32 R | 205 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 2
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2
    ——LOW of 30 flips predicted by Robbie——
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.6
    NJ_07 R | 217 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    IL_12 R | 218 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4
    TX_23 R | 217 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4
    MN_03 R | 216 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    VA_10 R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4
    CA_39* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.6
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2
    CA_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6
    MN_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2

    *indicates open seat

  358. mnw says:

    New FL Sen poll:

    Scott 40
    Nelson 34

    from sunshinestatenews

    That’s 4 in a row, I think, showing Scott ahead.

  359. mnw says:

    That’s an expensive state to contest. I doubt the DEMs calculated they would have to spend “desperation money” there– not with a long-time DEM incumbent & a big blue wave coming.

    Scott meanwhile is self-funding.

  360. mnw says:

    2 RRH moderators to post, “That’s actually pretty good news for Nelson, because…”

    in 3… 2…1.

  361. DW says:

    Here is the dashboard one more time, with a new addition of actual polling done within the last month or two. All of the pollsters are the standard ones we know, and so I included no junk here. When it is a partisan pollster I note it within parenthesis.

    Keep in mind some of these were from a while back when the Dems were at the high-water mark of the ‘blue-wave’. I will keep updating these as newer polls become available.

    What I glean from the data is Dems are very likely to fall short from gaining house control.

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Score
    ———————————————————–
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2
    FL_25 R | 165 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.8
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    CA_50 R | 171 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    NC_02 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    OH_14 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    WI_06 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45’42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 42/41 (PPP)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    KY_06 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    MI_08 R | 204 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    TX_32 R | 205 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 2
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 43/33
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.6
    NJ_07 R | 217 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    IL_12 R | 218 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    TX_23 R | 217 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4
    MN_03 R | 216 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/47
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    VA_10 R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4
    CA_39* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.6
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2
    CA_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6
    MN_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2

    *indicates open seat

  362. Tina says:

    But muh blue wave.

    Glad that Scott is pulling ahead.

  363. DW says:

    I should have also pointed out that the polling numbers are always GOP / Dem in order, regardless who leads in the poll.

  364. Tina says:

    The commander in chief just gave the pentagon an order.

    So, they are now informed.

    Of more importance than the display of show is the fact that the sanctions still exist

  365. Tina says:

    Milky Way sounds very similar to national retreat online aka George little Will. Will slammed Reagan hard

  366. Redmen4ever says:

    US 118 Panama 26

    They did pretty well considering only one of their players touched the ball with his hands.

  367. Phil says:

    So Democrats think Trump isn’t tough enough on Kim. I can come from that point of view. I’ve always advocated being rough with our enemies. One of the things I detested about Obama was how soft he was on our adversaries. The left throwing “the tough line” out there now is laughable. Since when have they ever advocated being tough on our enemies? The Soviet Union during the Cold War? The Iranians? When? Now the have suddenly found religion?

    Please. Give me a break.

  368. Chicon says:

    359 – note that I said “on substantive matters”. What that means is that it’s not useful to engage in back-and-forth discussions, because your logical functioning is dominated by hate.

    I did not mean I’ll refrain from pointing out your latest goofiness.

  369. Robbie says:

    Josh Rogin
    ?@joshrogin

    The more Trump talks about the deal, the worse it sounds. U.S. stops exercises, pledges to remove troops, no new sanctions, all in exchange for vague promises of denuclearization.

  370. Chicon says:

    376 – so accurate. Lol.

  371. DW says:

    374 – spot on. I just saw an article pointing out this very fact. The media has suddenly come to Jesus…they have walked the aisle, confessed their sins, and have accepted hard-line hawkishness as their Savior. They loved to cheer Obama’s making love with Cuba, and tripped over themselves to praise Castro. But now that its a Republican reaching out, the media has suddenly discovered human rights abuses.

    Its just like under eight years of Obama, there was no problem in the USA with homelessness, but suddenly, in late January 2017, the media discovers there is a huge homelessness problem in our country.

    They deserve the ‘fake news’ moniker because they have earned it. A bunch of partisan hacks all of them.

  372. mnw says:

    Thanks, DW!

    I know that’s a lot of work. The addition of the polls is extremely useful!

    1) One of our troll threadpigs recently explained* that in IL-12, (Bost, R-inc) was in a heap o’trouble!, because 1) “many people intensely dislike Bost,” & the DEM candidate (Kelly) “has way out fundraised” Bost.” And yet, even PPP shows Bost ahead. How can that BE?

    2) In PA-01, I suspect events have overtaken that poll, because the DEM candidate (Wallace) is stuck in an anti-Semitism mess.

    If Rodney Davis (R-inc) loses IL-13, I wouldn’t have the sadz too bad. He’s useless, & he’s a big GOP amnesty guy. F him. I hope he survives for the same reason I hoped McCain would beat Obama, but that’s the only reason.

    I don’t know where you found all those polls, but I hadn’t seen most of them.

  373. mnw says:

    *to those who’ve lived in that District for 20 years

  374. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I think the Democrats attack on Trump/Kim meeting is a bad mistake. It has not been that long ago that the North Koreans were threatening to nuke the U.S. Now they have destroyed a nuclear missile site and are talking. It is similar to when Nixon opened the door to China in the 1970s. The first meetings were to open the door and begin discussions. Similar general agreements about goals were signed. At the time the Democrats were guardedly supportive.

    Am getting a sense that there is also guarded optimism by Americans about the Trump/Kim meeting. But the Democrats are attacking it in a manner that puts people off. After attacking Trump for being to bellicose about North Korean, and increasing the changes of war; they now are claiming the opposite, and that he is somehow selling the U.S. and South Korea out. No matter what Trump does about Korea, they are going to whine.

    The concern troll showed up after a long absence to carry on a long, hysterical rant using Democratic talking points — what a surprise.

  375. Tina says:

    The Drats are unhinged.

    Notice the concern troll never mentions colonel khadaffiKhadaffi or the Iranian deal.

    Notice how the concern troll never mentions her thighness paying for a dossier, written by a foreigner, who utilized Russian bots?

  376. DW says:

    381 – They (Democrats and their allies in the media) have to attack it. They cannot have Dennis Rodman running around wearing a MAGA hat. Not in an election year. They have to discredit this, and quickly. They have a growing number of liabilities, like Bill Clinton and Nancy Pelosi flapping their lips. NK has destroyed one site, and they have released some prisoners.

    What would the Democrat Party rather have? Nukes incinerating cities? A whole generation of young Americans going off to die in a bloody war? They are sort of in a lose-lose situation if this summit goes well.

  377. Tina says:

    They are unhinged

    Mikas face and Mikva joe scar farce are running around worried about human rights,

    They never mentioned this about China, Russia, Cuba, or Iran.

    Mullah obumbler never got any human rights concessions from Cuba or Iran, yet the ds are concerned about it, first steps first, losahs.

  378. Tina says:

    Notice too how joe scar farce and mikas face never even note that the Iran deal was never signed by the mullahs.

  379. Mr.Vito says:

    “I have never called you a Trump Trump (sic) or a MAGA moron.”

    “A Trump chump is someone who unflinchingly supports Trump.”

    “you left the party over him and now you defend everything his does”

    Yeah, he’s still calling you a Trump Chump.

  380. DW says:

    Updated Democrat Campaign ad:

    “I am ____ _______ your Democratic candidate for US congress.

    Under Republican leadership, you have been forced to suffer under the burden lower taxes. The extra money in your pockets increases your health risks due to the stress of not knowing how to spend the money government didn’t take from you.

    Republicans have also brought back unwanted jobs to the economy, when voters like you would rather sit depressed on your front porch until you commit suicide than stay gainfully employed.

    Republicans led by Donald Trump have also taken away your rights to be incinerated by North Korea’s mad-man by convincing him to de-nuclearize and live peaceably.

    Elect me this November and I will jack your taxes up so high you will only be able to shop at thrift stores!

    Elect me this November and I will send your jobs back to China so you can get back to receiving your unemployment checks!

    Elect me this November and I will help Democratic Party leadership restore North Korea’s nuclear program so you can go back to living in fear of nuclear incineration!

    We must work together to stop President Trump from his evil scheme of world peace and economic prosperity for all.

    I am ____ _______, Democrat for Congress, and I approved this message.”

  381. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I feel sorry for Elon Musk. He was silly enough to open a manufacturing plant in California, thinking his progressive reputation would protect him from the leftists. Wrong!

    “Elon Musk’s Tesla says new state rule punishes it for doing business in California
    The only large-scale car manufacturer in California argues that doing business in the state is hard enough without a fast-developing labor regulation backed by organizations that want to unionize its Fremont plant.
    Elon Musk’s Tesla is fighting a rule under development by two state agencies that would require it to be certified as a “fair and responsible workplace” for its customers to be eligible for taxpayer-backed state electric vehicle rebates.
    Those rebates are key incentives in Gov. Jerry Brown’s plan to put 5 million electric vehicles on California roads by 2030. They take thousands of dollars off the price of buying a new Tesla car, and unions want lawmakers to withhold them from companies they believe have unfair labor practices.
    “The goals of a clean environment and a thriving middle class are inseparable for the Labor movement and we are committed to achieving both,” wrote Angie Wei, a lobbyist for the Labor Federation, in a letter supporting the rule.
    The rule could take effect as early as next month, opening Tesla to additional scrutiny from the Labor and Workforce Development Agency and the California Air Resources Board.
    In a 16-page letter fighting the rule, Tesla says the “state is targeting” the company and that other car manufacturers avoid operating here because they view it “as a competitive disadvantage.””

    https://www.sacbee.com/latest-news/article212852584.html

  382. DW says:

    NY Times headline:

    “Trump Sees Shared Path After Meeting Kim”

    smaller headline:

    “Statement Promises a Nuclear Retreat but Lacks Details”

    Had this been Obama, the headline would read something like this:

    “Obama Brings World Peace”

    Smaller headlines:

    “Historic Moment Clinches Nis legacy”
    “Nobel prize to be renamed Obama prize?”
    “Obama now TIME Person of the Millennium?”
    “Is it time to call Obama God?”
    “Is there anything he cannot do?”
    “Should Republicans just close shop?”

  383. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    387, 389. DW your on a roll. Great posts!

  384. mnw says:

    Honest to God, if you read RRH every day, scanning for new polls as I do, it will make you want to slit your wrists!

    Our trolls would derive great aid and comfort there. Although they are so illiterate and full of frenzied hate, they wouldn’t last a day:

    “shamlet fraud! moshe liar!” Gone in 60 seconds.

  385. Waingro says:

    Ouch. He went there!

    Donald J. Trump
    ?Verified account @realDonaldTrump

    Mark Sanford has been very unhelpful to me in my campaign to MAGA. He is MIA and nothing but trouble. He is better off in Argentina. I fully endorse Katie Arrington for Congress in SC, a state I love. She is tough on crime and will continue our fight to lower taxes. VOTE Katie!

  386. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    A Fox News poll shows Americans favored Trump meeting with Kim by a 66-24% margin. Would suggest trolls stop parroting the Pelosi/Schumer arguments against the summit.

  387. mnw says:

    I’m surprised Trump intervened in that primary. I didn’t think Sanford was that important.

  388. Cash Cow TM says:

    After 6 days, finally reconnected to the Intertube.

    Praise Jesus.

  389. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “I’m surprised Trump intervened in that primary. I didn’t think Sanford was that important.”

    If Sanford looses, it will be an example to other Republican congressmen of what happens if you break rank.

  390. mnw says:

    SDC

    If Trump really cared about making an example of Sanford, wouldn’t you think he would’ve tweeted his anti-Sanford message a day or two back?

    Instead of 3 hours before the polls close?

    I think he acted on impulse. (Shocking to hear that Trump would do that, I’m sure.)

  391. Waingro says:

    Boom. Scott is really starting to pull away.

    (((Harry Enten)))
    ?Verified account @ForecasterEnten
    1m1 minute ago

    Just got the latest Uncle… I mean Saint Leo poll for Florida Senate emailed to me… Scott is up 6 in that poll, fwiw. A ridiculous number of undecideds in it. So there’s that.

  392. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “If Trump really cared about making an example of Sanford, wouldn’t you think he would’ve tweeted his anti-Sanford message a day or two back?
    Instead of 3 hours before the polls close?

    Would normally make sense, but he has been a bit busy the last few days.

  393. Tina says:

    Trump just tweeted to Deniro.

    Wake up Punchy.

    Tweet of the day

  394. CG says:

    If Sanford is unseated tonight, he will have nothing to lose by running for the Presidency in some capacity.

    If Trump really wanted to do something positive for the party today, with hours to go, he should Tweet that Virginians should reject potential Senate nominee Corey Stewart, a despicable white nationalist who will hurt every other Republican on the ballot if he is the nominee.

    Stewart was an early Trump supporter, but was fired by the Trump campaign for being too crazy. Imagine that.

  395. Tina says:

    The senate killed mullah corkers tariff amendment.

  396. JC says:

    I don’t think Trump’s late rejection of Sanford was so much a result of impulse as it was a last second opportunity shot. It’s likely that he didn’t even know the primary was coming up until the media started talking about how he could lose.

  397. Tina says:

    Goober graham praises the trump summit.

    Goiter has slowly warmed to trump.

    He is now fed up with Mulehead and the fibi/department of just me corruption.

  398. Tina says:

    Muh storms ex attorney aka cnn current attorney of propaganda now claims that the Russians are out to get him.

  399. mnw says:

    JC 405

    U could be right. I don’t know that anybody thought a Sanford win would be a Trump loss, though. Sanford wasn’t perceived to be in serious trouble until a week ago, as far as I know.

    His opponent is a self-funder and…easy on the eyes. Under different circumstances, I’m sure Sanford would invite her to join him on an Appalachian Trail hike.

    Ms. Arrington is a johnny-come-lately MEGA enthusiast, btw.

  400. mnw says:

    sb “MAGA”

    Spellcheck strikes again

  401. JC says:

    Scott Adams says the video Trump showed Kim “might be the best thing that anybody ever did in a negotiation…in the history of the world”

    https://www.pscp.tv/w/1yNxaXaBWXdJj

    Of course, I recognize that persuasion expert Scott is using hyperbole and post sale techniques to make his point.

  402. mnw says:

    I thought the video idea was very Trumpian, as I posted this morning. Pretty sure he’s done something similar before. He said something about, “You have to show your negotiating counterpart how to dream.”

  403. JC says:

    mnw says:
    June 12, 2018 at 5:46 pm
    JC 405

    U could be right. I don’t know that anybody thought a Sanford win would be a Trump loss, though. Sanford wasn’t perceived to be in serious trouble until a week ago, as far as I know.
    ——————

    I can’t read minds, but I’m willing to bet that Trump is looking at this in terms of a demonstration to other centrists GOP candidates of what happens if they break rank.

    Conventional wisdom says don’t make a public rejection against an established politician because if they win, which is likely, then it will reflect poorly on your endorsement power. But my thoughts on that is that Trump could care less if the media uses a Sandford win to bash him for a week. In the long run it wouldn’t hurt him, but his public rebuke would put a lot a centrist GOPer’s feet to the fire.

  404. CG says:

    Sanford is a prominent and vocal member of the Freedom Caucus. But on here he is a “centrist.”

  405. mnw says:

    JC

    I would characterize Sanford as a minor nuisance.

    His primary loss would probably encourage other unreliables to have a care.

  406. Ron N says:

    I am still waiting for all the out cry for Iran and Cuba human right issues before being paid off by Obama. Same idiots dem’s and MSM now demanding.

  407. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 12, 2018 at 1:41 pm
    376 – so accurate. Lol.

    – It’s far more believable than the story the DNC had Seth Rich murdered which you believed.

  408. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    June 12, 2018 at 2:09 pm
    I think the Democrats attack on Trump/Kim meeting is a bad mistake.

    – The only thing that would have made your comment more perfect was if you included a something from a Rasmussen poll.

  409. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    June 12, 2018 at 2:37 pm
    “I have never called you a Trump Trump (sic) or a MAGA moron.”
    “A Trump chump is someone who unflinchingly supports Trump.”
    “you left the party over him and now you defend everything his does”
    Yeah, he’s still calling you a Trump Chump.

    – Obviously, Jason fraud doesn’t support everything Dear Leader Trump does because, for now, he still opposes Trump’s tariffs.

  410. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    June 12, 2018 at 4:37 pm
    A Fox News poll shows Americans favored Trump meeting with Kim by a 66-24% margin. Would suggest trolls stop parroting the Pelosi/Schumer arguments against the summit.

    – Favoring a meeting is one thing. I had no real problem with talking to North Korea. Giving them much of what the wanted with almost nothing in return just so Trump can declare success is the problem.

  411. Robbie says:

    I’m old enough to remember when Obama bowing to a Saudi king caused an uproar on state run FoxNews. Now, Dear Leader Trump says Kim loves his people even though Kim has as many as 200,000 people in gulags.

    Of course, I always forget one important point when watching the massive hypocrisy among conservatives. Trump has a R after his name so that makes everything ok. But if Obama had done, word for word, what Trump did yesterday, conservatives would be calling for his impeachment and several FoxNews hosts might have already set themselves on fire while in TV to protest.

  412. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It is interesting how Robbie and CG always post together. Maybe they are Siamese Twins.

  413. Tina says:

    Major Nuissan was Gavin newsome when he was sf mayor,

  414. Tina says:

    It was easier when bush death win colonel KhadaffiKhadaffi.

  415. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    So Robbie are you agreeing with Pelosi that Trump should not be talking to Kim?

  416. Tina says:

    Fox is reporting that Swampstein relate need congressional Rs with investigations,

    This needs to be investigated and he needs to be terminated,mix true.

    A clear federal violation.

  417. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Donald J. Trump?@realDonaldTrump
    “Heading back home from Singapore after a truly amazing visit. Great progress was made on the denuclearization of North Korea. Hostages are back home, will be getting the remains of our great heroes back to their families, no missiles shot, no research happening, sites closing…”

    I prefer this approach rather than the Clinton/Bush/Obama policy of ignoring and paying money to Kim in North Korea in the hope he would go away.

    Maybe Obama will want to jump into the act and made one of his flowery speeches.

  418. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #419- Robbie
    Please expound on your point that The Donald gave NoKo “much of what they wanted”.
    Note that the next major USA/SoKo military exercise is scheduled for Spring,2019 and as hawk Tom Cotton(R-AR) said, by that time “we will know Un’s intent so currently it’s much ado about nothing”!

  419. Chicon says:

    427 – Sheeple, his talking points do not include that infom..

    Many are comparing the completed Iran deal to the first meeting on the Korean deal. Totally apples to apples….

  420. Robbie says:

    Ha! This was tweeted two years ago when Obama was president and before Schlapp had signed on to work with Trump. It PERFECTLY illustrates the hypocrisy conservatives are showing these days.

    Mercedes Schlapp
    @mercedesschlapp

    #Cuba #obama shakes hand with dictator Raul Castro. next shakes hands with NK dictator Kim Un Jung?

  421. Robbie says:

    Josh Jordan
    @NumbersMuncher

    Conservatives during Obama: HOW DARE OBAMA SAY HE WOULD MEET FACE TO FACE WITH A DICTATOR!

    Conservatives today: ISN’T IT AMAZING THAT OUR DEAR LEADER WOULD FLY TO MEET FACE TO FACE W/ AN HONEST, NOBLE MAN IN NORTH KORE

  422. Wes says:

    Does Robbie post at RRH?

    BOEHNERWASRIGHT
    June 12, 2018 at 1:22 pm
    This reminds me really of VA-GOV 2017. So many articles/posts about how Northam was blowing the race and the great campaign Gillespie was running.
    Nearly all the polls that are showing Scott ahead are either partisan and/or crappy. Even if Scott is narrowly ahead that shouldn’t surprise anyone considering his spending advantage and popularity as Governor.
    The fundamentals are still very much in favor of Nelson. It is nearly unheard of that a scandal free incumbent loses in a swingstate with the opposing party in the WH. If Scott has the same numbers in August from high-quality pollster, then Nelson should be worried.

    The “Republicans” over there seem determined to say Nelson is really leading, polls be damned.

  423. Tina says:

    How dare Ronald Reagan meet with Gorbachev.

    National retreat online

    George little Will

  424. mnw says:

    Wes

    As soon as I posted the new FL poll, I said that at least 2 RRH moderators would be out momentarily, to explain that “this is actually pretty good news for Nelson because…[insert bulls*t of your choice here]”

    BOEHNERWASRIGHT is my second least favorite poster. The king of faux ‘Republicans’ is VASTBLIGHTWINGCONSPIRACY.

    One of them said that ALL of the last FOUR (!!) FL SEN polls were “either crappy and/or partisan,” & that we’d get a “clear view” when “a respected pollster” checks in!

  425. Tina says:

    The Drats are upset with the handshake, the meeting, and the video.

    Triggered.

  426. DW says:

    VA Senate:

    Freitas 45.7
    Clown 1 42.6
    Clown 2 11.8

    54% reported in

  427. Wes says:

    I read that minithread, Mnw. The Nelson fanboys glossed over the fact that Scott is campaigning hard for the seat while Nelson is sleepwalking.

    Now Nelson may put more of an effort in, but honestly I’m not sure if he’s even capable of it anymore after nearly two decades without a serious opponent.

  428. Wes says:

    Go, Freitas!

    He’s not a perfect candidate, but he’s far better than either opponent. The VAGOP needs to get bsck to its fundamentals of solid candidates if it wants to become relevant statewide again.

  429. JC says:

    Arrington:48
    Sanford: 48

  430. JC says:

    I’ve seen a lot of Scott ads on local channels. So far they’ve been positive in nature. He’s branding himself as an outsider.

    Haven’t seen any Nelson ads.

  431. DW says:

    66% in, Freitas still leading.

  432. Wes says:

    And so the eeyoring begins:

    BOEHNERWASRIGHT
    June 12, 2018 at 7:49 pm
    Thought of Comstock only being at 62% against a non-serious opponent? Doesn’t really improve her chances in November, if she has to worry about the republican base

  433. mnw says:

    JC

    As I posted earlier, I think the DEMs were blindsided by all the trouble Nelson is in. I’m guessing they had no idea they were going to have to pour megabucks into FL to defend that seat.

    Scott self-funds. Every $ the DEMs throw at FL (and it costs a lot of $$$ to run ads there) is one LESS $ for Sky Queen, Heidi, or Tester.

  434. Wes says:

    A rare statement of merit-based concern on RRH:

    GREYHOUND
    June 12, 2018 at 7:59 pm
    Problem is that everywhere Freitas is up has basically already fully reported. Richmond, Virginia Beach, and Rural Central VA are basically all in. Meanwhile PWC (Stewart’s home county) has 1/92 precincts in and Stewart is up 28 points there, and Fairfax is 49/244 in and Stewart is up 8 there. Those 2 counties alone are about half of what’s out right now.
    R, 27, CA-18. Anti-Anti-Trump

  435. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Nate Silver, of all people, has some good reflections about the Trump/Kim summit:

    “There are a lot of esoteric takes about the Trump-Kim summit that sidestep the rather important question of whether the talks reduce the likelihood of nuclear war.”

    “The framing can be a moving target. (A few weeks ago, there was a lot of mockery of Trump when it seemed like there wouldn’t be a summit at all.) I think a useful heuristic is: where do we stand with NK now relative to the spectrum of what we thought was possible 6 months ago?”

  436. DW says:

    Frietas up 5000 votes.

  437. Wes says:

    Freitas is down to a 3900-vote lead. I hope he can hold on.

  438. Wes says:

    That’s good if his lead expanded, DW.

  439. DW says:

    Wes, I think some dems are asking for a GOP ballot so they can vote Stewart in precincts where the dems have nothing on the ballot.

  440. DW says:

    +4,400

  441. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not like stopping joint military exercises with South Korea or raising the possibility of pulling US troops out of South Korea as an opening ploy. However, I’m sure that NYC will tell us that this was the greatest negotiating tactic he has ever seen in 3…2…1…

    If the summit gets positive results that will great. If not, we are back to the terrible options we had before.

  442. Wes says:

    I was thinking the same thing, DW.

  443. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    431. “Does Robbie post at RRH?”

    Wes, that post seems to rational and intellectual for Robbie, who seems to limit his posts to spitting venom like a snake at whoever his target is.

  444. DW says:

    Insane we let the other side pick our candidate.

  445. Wes says:

    Freitas up by about 4100.

  446. Wes says:

    80% in. Freitas up by almost 4200.

  447. GF says:

    BL, we do not have any scheduled exercises until next year. In the interim, we can monitor the Norks’ action and reassess if we ought to hold them after all. Plus, I don’t mind shifting the troops out of the ROK (they’re little more than a trip wire and would largely be lost as it is) if they can pivot to Japan just across the Tsushima Straits.

    That “Boehnerwasright” character (the name tells you all you need to know) is very irritating; he’s amongst the worst of the concern trolls. He is actually a German poster (but nowhere near as conservative as GerGOP), I wondered if Bonncaruso took up over at RRH!

  448. Wes says:

    Freitas up by 3675.

  449. mnw says:

    Sanford/Arrington could easily go to a runoff. “Mr. Some Dude Also Ran” is getting 3-4%.

    Levelheaded posters at RRH include CER; GERGOP; HONEYBEE; & our very own HHR alum RDEL.

  450. DW says:

    Wes the clue is northern VA is voting for the white supremacist. Obviously Dems crossing over to give Kaine the November win tonight.

  451. Tina says:

    The exercises is just staging.

    We kept the crippling sanctions in place.

    I do not know if the summit is or was successful.

    Baby steps, not drat concerns from the jebots

  452. DW says:

    almost +3900

  453. DW says:

    Stewart just took the lead. Idiots.

  454. DW says:

    Yeah, I am certain some of this is dems choosing our candidate for us.

  455. mnw says:

    DW

    MAY be a false alarm. NYT withdrew a bunch of tabulated votes.

  456. Wes says:

    202 precincts to go. Stewart probably wins. Damnit.

  457. Robbie says:

    Congratulations to Virginia Republicans who appear to have nominated Confederate monument and white supremacist loving Corey Stewart. Not that the other guy had a chance, but it might have helped the party’s image not to nominate a goon.

    Tim Kaine is one of the most unimpressive Democrat Senators out there, yet he won’t have to spend a single day worry about his seat.

    Meanwhile, the crazy caucus is giving Barbara Comstock some hassle in her race.

  458. DW says:

    465 – VA GOP is a mess.

  459. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The issue is North Korea denuclearization. Talk of suspension of war games is a negotiation tool. Look at the bigger picture. Not that long ago Kim was threatening to nuke the West Coast, Guam and Hawaii.

    Kim is not going to denuclearize unless he feels he is getting something major in return. U.S. troops are going no where until the nuclear threat is gone. If the nuclear threat is gone; South Korea with 50 million people and one of the strongest economies in the world should be able to arm and defend itself against a nation with 1/2 the population which has no real economy and is dependent on China. We are still in alliance with them militarily.

  460. mnw says:

    Wes

    The Wise Men say the exact opposite, fwiw.

  461. DW says:

    Frietas absolutely could have given Kaine a tough race.

  462. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 12, 2018 at 8:35 pm
    202 precincts to go. Stewart probably wins. Damnit.

    – You’re not looking forward to a candidate who campaigns on Confederate war memorials? It worked so well for Ed Gillispie.

  463. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    June 12, 2018 at 8:36 pm
    465 – VA GOP is a mess.

    – It has been for a decade. McDonnell’s win in 2009 appears to have been a blip. The rotten campaign Allen ran in 2006 was a harbinger for the mess we see today. When an absolute clown like EW Jackson can get 12% of the vote despite being a perennial clown says everything you need to know.

    This is precisely why I said Comstock should stay far away from the race. When it looked like Trump would lose in 2016, Eric Cantor was looking at the race. He saw quickly after Trump won the crazy caucus in the state was in control.

  464. Wes says:

    Congratulations to Tim Kaine on winning reelection in June. Ggggrrrr…

  465. mnw says:

    Wes & DW

    RRH is throwing in the towel. Agrees Stewart will win now.

  466. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    June 12, 2018 at 8:26 pm
    Yeah, I am certain some of this is dems choosing our candidate for us.

    – Maybe, but Stewart is the epitome of the party in the age of Trump. The base wants candidates who own the libs. That’s why Don Blakenship nearly won in WV. The base wants fights over the national anthem, support for Confederate war memorials, and, above all else, total loyalty to Trump. That’s why Marta Roby is in trouble and it’s why Sanford is as well.

  467. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 12, 2018 at 8:44 pm
    Congratulations to Tim Kaine on winning reelection in June. Ggggrrrr…

    – His reelection was won when Trump won. It’s not Trump’s fault at all, but Virginia is a state Republicans weren’t going to win unless Hillary was the president. The DC suburbs have moved too much to the Democrats. In another decade, Virginia may well be Maryland.

  468. DW says:

    “That’s why Don Blakenship nearly won in WV”

    He lost by a lot. What did he get, just under 20%? Lost by 14 points…that’s a squeaker all right.

  469. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    June 12, 2018 at 8:51 pm
    “That’s why Don Blakenship nearly won in WV”

    He lost by a lot. What did he get, just under 20%? Lost by 14 points…that’s a squeaker all right.

    – Yes, but going into the last weekend, he had momentum. To his credit, Trump was able to turn people away from him.

    The fact remains though, for a long period of time, a convicted felon was leading a Republican primary for Senate.

    The same forces that nearly gave us Blankenship are the same that have given us Stewart.

  470. DW says:

    “Yes, but going into the last weekend, he had momentum”

    No, he had a couple of bogus polls that were false.

  471. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    June 12, 2018 at 8:55 pm
    “Yes, but going into the last weekend, he had momentum”

    No, he had a couple of bogus polls that were false.

    – They were so bogus, Mitch McConnell spent the final weekend of the campaign urging Trump to tweet that WV voters should not vote for Blankenship. I’m sure he did that because he wasn’t worried about Blakenship. I’m also sure he sent two of his most trusted aids, Josh Holmes and Scott Jennings, out on TV to tell Republicans not to vote for Blakenship.

    The polls were close and, to his credit, Trump’s tweet was able to upend disaster.

  472. Waingro says:

    Corey Stewart wins. What a disaster.

  473. mnw says:

    “disaster” doesn’t work for mr. The race was never winnable.

    “disaster” would be if a GOP candidate like Stewart was nominated in one of the 8 competitive Senate races that are competitive.

  474. Robbie says:

    Look at all of the energy the party has had to expend the last eight years to prevent clown car candidates from winning important primary races. That’s not happening because of flukes and odd mishaps. It’s happening because the base of the Republican party has moved hard right to the populist fringe.

    In 2010, we got Angle, COD, Buck, and a whole host of other idiots. In 2012, we got Mourdock and Akin. In 2014, McConnell and his allies had to do everything they could to defeat Brannon, Wolfe, and others.

    As detestable as they are, guys like Corey Stewart and even Paul Nehlen are who the primary voters are supporting. Sebastian Gorka endorsed Comstock’s opponent and that person got a sizable vote even though Comstock is a great candidate.

    I hate to say, but we’re going to see more and more of people like Stewart and even Blakenship. Populism has won over the base and they’re voting more to make a point than win.

  475. mnw says:

    Arrington looking good.

  476. JC says:

    I thing Arrington will pull it out, and avoid a runoff

  477. Robbie says:

    Laura Ingraham, a nasty women if there ever was one, makes this argument all of time. I can’t wait to see the Trump/Stewart rally where they talk about Confederate monuments for an hour.

    Just Karl
    ?@justkarl

    the elites failed for 20 years so let’s nominate stewart or something

  478. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    June 12, 2018 at 9:11 pm
    Arrington looking good.

    – I bet you didn’t know that Arrington supported Romney after he gave his 2016 speech calling Trump a conman.

  479. Waingro says:

    #482, the problem is that the MSM is now going follow Stewart around everywhere and try to paint him as the “face of the GOP” to demagogue Republican candidates.

  480. Chicon says:

    477 – DW, another example of how unhinged Flyboy’s become. A squeaker? Really? What a dope….

  481. Chicon says:

    487 – I bet you couldn’t find your arse with either hand.

  482. Tina says:

    The pedo aka Barney rubble was going to win the va senate seat, no matter what.

  483. Tina says:

    Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    @NolteNC
    ·
    1h
    Never Trump fanatics did an extra special job of embarrassing themselves today.

    Every day.

  484. Tgca says:

    408 mnw

    MEGA!

    Make Europe Great Again!

  485. NYCmike says:

    GF says:
    June 12, 2018 at 8:16 pm

    BL, we do not have any scheduled exercises until next year. In the interim, we can monitor the Norks’ action and reassess if we ought to hold them after all. Plus, I don’t mind shifting the troops out of the ROK (they’re little more than a trip wire and would largely be lost as it is) if they can pivot to Japan just across the Tsushima Straits.

    -Bitterlaw,

    Rome wasn’t built in a day, as GF pointed out to you, and also someone else pointed out that Tom Cotton had mentioned it also.

    Not sure what people expected, but I am not surprised at all what went down in Singapore. I trust Trump, Pompeo, Mattis, and Bolton a heck of a lot more than I trust Hillary/Obama. Time will tell when making peace deals.

    Quick note: I keep thinking about Reagan and Gorbachev…..do we blame Reagan for the fact that the United States and Russia are enemies again?

  486. Chicon says:

    NYC, I think the appropriate comparison would be those barking about Reagan completely blowing it at Reykjavik – probably a good idea to keep the powder dry and see how it works out from here.

  487. Tina says:

    Pompeo is definitely better than the jebots Hillary.

  488. Tina says:

    Barking at Reagan after Reykjavik.

    Did you see what will and national retreat online wrote?

  489. Bitterlaw says:

    As expected, NYC has no comment about Trump praising the honorable man who loves his people b.s. or tossing away even the threat of force as a bargai I g position.

    His desperate attempt to draw a favorable comparison between Trump and Reagan would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.

  490. Bitterlaw says:

    Bargaining.

  491. Bitterlaw says:

    D

  492. NYCmike says:

    Seth Rich’s family should receive royalties on the use of his name from Robbie.

  493. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    June 12, 2018 at 9:18 pm
    #482, the problem is that the MSM is now going follow Stewart around everywhere and try to paint him as the “face of the GOP” to demagogue Republican candidates.

    – Yep.

  494. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 12, 2018 at 9:26 pm
    487 – I bet you couldn’t find your arse with either hand.

    – And I bet you couldn’t tell the difference between the truth and a conspiracy. That’s why you believed the DNC had Seth Rich murdered.

    That said, I thought you declared earlier today I wasn’t worth the time? Yet, you seem unable to quit me.

  495. Tina says:

    Richs attorney just dropped suits against several bloggers.

  496. NYCmike says:

    I just don’t understand Bitterlaw’s silly comments…..nothing has changed in our country’s dealings with North Korea, as far as I can tell.

    We didn’t give them money.
    We didn’t take the sanctions off.
    We didn’t cancel military exercises yet, and as pointed out by several prominent individuals and GF ( 🙂 ), we will have a good period of time to see how North Korea acts before doing so.

    What is to criticize? Nothing has changed, except for the fact that a pretty hairy situation seems to be a lot less combustible at this time.

  497. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 12, 2018 at 10:04 pm
    Seth Rich’s family should receive royalties on the use of his name from Robbie.

    – On the other hand, you should receive royalited from Joe Donnelly for supporting Richard Mourdock. Without him, there’d be a Republican in Indiana.

  498. NYCmike says:

    “Yet, you seem unable to quit me.”

    Author-redux?

  499. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 12, 2018 at 9:59 pm
    NYC, I think the appropriate comparison would be those barking about Reagan completely blowing it at Reykjavik

    – Nothing more comical than the “Trump is Reagan” BS the toadies always push.

  500. NYCmike says:

    I don’t think I would accept “royalited”.

    I hear they burn out too quick.

  501. NYCmike says:

    The funny thing about becoming President – you usually end up being compared to OTHER PRESIDENTS.

    JEB!2016 won’t have that problem.

  502. NYCmike says:

    And neither will Mark Sanford…..”CG”‘s choice in 2020?

  503. NYCmike says:

    What did Shapiro say anyway? or George Will?

    Any links?

  504. Tina says:

    Sessions just hinted at the subpoenaing of emails from top members of congress, regarding the leak probe.

    Start with warmers unintelligence committee and end with Schiff for Brains, the Russian stooge.

  505. mnw says:

    Tgca

    I always like to see your posts here– it reassures me that you’re hanging in there!

    “MEGA”: I spend half my life going back & fixing Spellcheck after it’s “corrected” one of my posts.

  506. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    487. “– I bet you didn’t know that Arrington supported Romney after he gave his 2016 speech calling Trump a conman.”

    Great! Arrington will be serving in Congress with Romney, who Trump also supports. Romney is predicting a Trump victory in 2020, so it looks like the three of them will work together for a long time.

  507. Tina says:

    National retreat online and little will blasted Reagan at the time.

    Said he gave up too much,, and got nothing.

    Dejavu of little Ben shapiro meltdown today,

  508. NYCmike says:

    Ok, seeing that Shapiro criticized Trump for the words he used describing Kim. I agree with Shapiro, it was “disquieting”.

    Then, I look up, and see 2018, and this war has been in stalemate since 1953, a period of 65 years.

    What is the best thing for the people of North Korea? To call Kim nice names in an attempt to make peace, or to make yourself feel better and stick the bastard’s head on a spike and start another war?

    I trust Trump, Pompeo, Mattis, Bolton, etc.

    If this was Hillary and/or Obama, I would NOT trust that they did the right thing. As evidence, I would point to Iran deal, Cuba deal, and Bubba Clinton’s deal in the ’90’s as pretty good evidence to support my mistrust.

  509. NYCmike says:

    “Great! Arrington will be serving in Congress with Romney, who Trump also supports. Romney is predicting a Trump victory in 2020, so it looks like the three of them will work together for a long time.

    BOOM!

  510. Tina says:

    I just heard Ben Shapiro on the radio. I guess lil Ben has a radio program, however, his radio program cures insomnia.

  511. Tina says:

    No more medicine necessary, you know the same medicine that got Roseanne in trouble..

  512. Chicon says:

    503 – you really are a dolt. I said you’re not worth substantive discussions because you’re cracked. Doesn’t mean I won’t call out your idiocy, such as saying Blankenship lost a squeaker. Comedy gold.

  513. Chicon says:

    509 – do you read the posts to which you respond? It might help if you do….

  514. Tina says:

    And it is bs about that medicine too. I was seated next to a passenger who stupidly mixed that medicine with an alcoholic beverage. The person got up from economy class and went into first class. She returned and then did the same.

    The stupid stewardess came up to me and asked me to make sure my friend remained seated and did not wander. I politely told the stewardess that I do. It know her, but she mixed the Roseanne drug with alcoholic beverage, causing her to wander. I told stupid stewardess that I could subdue if she needed the help. Fortunately, she passed out with her mouth wide open, snoring away.

    Long story short, that drug is terrible, especially when mixed with an adult beverage.

  515. mnw says:

    Arrington attacked Sanford for failing to support Trump when it counted.

    I suggest that anyone who thinks she’ll now get elected & then turn against Trump is delusional… wishful thinking, probably.

    I believe Trump can correctly anticipate who his consistent supporters will be. He didn’t decide to go for Arrington because
    he drew her name out of a hat.

  516. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Will repeat Nate Silvers comment about the summit.

    “There are a lot of esoteric takes about the Trump-Kim summit that sidestep the rather important question of whether the talks reduce the likelihood of nuclear war.”

    “I think a useful heuristic is: where do we stand with NK now relative to the spectrum of what we thought was possible 6 months ago?”

    There are always going to be chest-beaters who demand toughness. I can live with flattery in an effort to avoid nuclear war.

  517. Tgca says:

    515 mnw

    Why thank you. I took like a 5 hour nap this afternoon so after my walk and cooking dinner for the canine children. I come to my fav place to watch everyone freak out over silly stuff like VA Senate race, SC Sanford, Trump shaking Kim’s hand or tapping him in the back, history revision of Reagan, etc…perhaps we should focus on more important things in life like ABORTION!

  518. Tgca says:

    Trumps style in negotiating is to be overly positive and showering praise on folks. I think this is part of his tactic to disarm folks. I don’t think he actually means it because we know he can then turn without a moments notice and belittle them and then flatter them again once they put disagreements behind them. So my view on this is its part of his negotiations ploy to get where he wants to be. Remember, he always has the end goal in mind and cares little for process.

    This is very different than going abroad and showering praise on folks by apologizing for the US or having no end goalin mind.

    That’s the difference. Unfortunately, sometimes you have to ignore the past no matter how ugly to move forward.

  519. NYCmike says:

    “509 – do you read the posts to which you respond? It might help if you do….”

    -That would get in the way of the TDS.

  520. Tgca says:

    Remember, we had to make difficult choices in the past too in order to move forward. We did this at the Yalta Conference with Stalin. We also did it to some extent with Japan, ignoring all the atrocities. …and Reagan did it in the 80s too.

    Here we ended up with different results, Japan ended up being an ally and positive influence while Stalin and Russia went on to decades of atrocities and killing and basically brutally enslaving tens of millions. Then in transitioned from a brutal regime to more involved in the world appearing to want to let go of its past but much sneakier behind the backs of other nations with its constant meddling as it continues today. I’m not sure Russia can ever be trusted due to its organizational structure and history.

  521. NYCmike says:

    “This is very different than going abroad and showering praise on folks by apologizing for the US or having no end goalin mind.”

    -No, no, no, its just “whataboutism” and TRUMP CHUMP-itis.

  522. Tina says:

    China removes missiles from South China Sea, in response to trump summit

  523. NYCmike says:

    “The praise Donald Trump heaped on Kim Jong Un was disgraceful, but Donnie has a soft spot for thugs like Putin and Erdogan. It was easily the worst moment of his presidency and I suspect/hope we go the rest of our lives and never see another moment like that from any president, Republican or Democrat.”

    -I just saw this statement from Robbie.

    In regard to Erdogan, just last year Robbie was excoriating Trump for supposedly making a statement about NOT being in full commitment to NATO Article 5, where the United States considers an armed attack against one of its members to be an attack against us……..NOW, here is excoriating Trump for supposedly having a soft spot for the thug in Turkey.

    Robbie, how confused are you? Are you still looking at women on the internet, or have you moved onto 4-legged creatures?

  524. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Japanese prime minister praises Trump’s meeting with Kim:

    “Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe commended President Trump on Tuesday for his part in the Singapore summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un, calling it a step toward a “comprehensive resolution” to denuclearize the rogue nation.

    Speaking to reporters in Tokyo after a conversation with Trump, Abe said he was pleased the president had raised the issue of the abduction of Japanese citizens by North Korea, Reuters reported.

    “I highly praise and appreciate President Trump for mentioning the issue of abduction (of Japanese by North Korea) to Kim, which is an important issue for Japan. I’m determined that Japan will have to directly face North Korea and resolve (the abduction issue) bilaterally.”

  525. mnw says:

    Tgca

    Seems like you’re doing better, judging by your posts tonight. Good to hear.

    Sanford has conceded to Arrington in SC.

    Looks like Danny Tarkanian will be the GOP nominee in NV-03. Tark is a much-hated ‘deadender’ here. I could see how some might come out to vote for Tark and vote for Heller while they’re at it, though. I always liked him, but I probably would’ve voted for somebody else in the primary– no idea who he beat.

  526. Mr.Vito says:

    “China removes missiles from South China Sea, in response to trump summit”

    Proof?

  527. Paul says:

    I’m a Trump hater but I admit that Trump has had a great couple weeks. His trade war talk will help with blue collar workers. He only loses and angers those who are already against him.

    And his deal with North Korea moves us away from imminent nuclear war. Not much substance, but it is a start. Democrats can’t say that much since we supported Obama’s idea that opening up dialogue is usually a good thing.

  528. Tina says:

    The tweet did not rally match the story from theTimes.

  529. Paul says:

    536: “The sun will shine, in response to Trump summit.”

  530. Tina says:

    Pass the bong.

  531. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    540. Paul “The sun will shine, in response to Trump summit.”

    Yes, but thankfully the sky won’t glow in the dark.

    Some of my Democratic friends have the same reaction as you and Nate Silver. It is better to be talking than saber rattling with nuclear weapons. Glad they had the summit. It featured probably two of the most unique people in summit history.

  532. Mr.Vito says:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/31778/stunning-trudeau-follows-trumps-lead-votes-hank-berrien

    What made the move so stunning was that Trudeau had campaigned on restoring diplomatic relations with Iran. But let Anthony Furey of The Toronto Sun tell the tale:

    Conservative Senators had previously brought forward similar legislation and it was defeated last month by Justin Trudeau-appointed Senators. So everyone figured they knew how Tuesday’s vote would go down: Conservatives in favour, Liberals mostly against. Even Speaker Geoff Regan must have thought this. Because after he’d finished tallying the “yeas” from the Conservative side he then called to register the “nay” votes, as if he assumed the “yeas” were done. Then there were rumblings. Regan realized that maybe there were a few more “yeas” kicking around on other benches and reopened the count. There were. And the first one to stand up was Prime Minister Justin Trudeau himself. Then the whole Liberal cabinet, followed by much of the caucus, stood up to vote in favour of the motion put forward by Conservative MP Garnett Genuis.

  533. Bitterlaw says:

    I agree with NYC that Presidents are compared to other Presidents. Trump fares badly when compared to Reagan. He does better when compared to Obama.

  534. Cash Calf says:

    Moo.

  535. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    2h
    My political representatives didn’t want me to get involved in the Mark Sanford primary thinking that Sanford would easily win – but with a few hours left I felt that Katie was such a good candidate, and Sanford was so bad, I had to give it a shot. Congrats to Katie Arrington!

    An explanation perhaps on why he was late in endorsing Arrington.

  536. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    A new Ohio Poll by Suffolk shows the Democrats in the lead for the Senate by 13 and Governor by 7.
    Amy Walters from the Charlie Cook Report is skeptical.

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/06/12/ohio-governor-senate-poll/693957002/

  537. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Senator Lindsay Graham(R-SC) is up for reelection in the 2020 cycle. Although 2 1/2 years is an eternity in politics and a straight line between now and then does not exist, he has to be concerned about Mark Sanford’s primary loss last night in SC.
    He could have trouble making it through the GOP Senate primary. I predict Graham retires unless circumstances change dramatically.

  538. jason says:

    That’s why Don Blakenship nearly won in WV.”

    Hello?

    Amoral Scumbag really needs psychiatric help, although the shrinks can’t do miracles.

    Blakenship came in a distant third with barely 20% of the vote.

  539. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Here is the GOP candidate for the Senate in Maine against liberal Angus King:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=112&v=pBryD-ir3Yg

  540. DW says:

    550 – I made that point last night. All Blankenship had was two bogus polls that turned out to be a smoke screen to create the appearance of a close race. Blankenship finished a distant 3rd, getting just 19.9% of the vote.

    By Robbie’s standards, the Titanic almost made it to New York.

  541. DW says:

    And Jeb Bush almost won the 2016 GOP nomination.

  542. jason says:

    Morrisey 47,571 34.9%
    Jenkins 39,888 29.3%
    Blankenship 27,153 19.9%

    Yeah, Blankenship “almost” won.

    Amoral scumbag has elevated lying to a new level here.

  543. jason says:

    It says something when a moonbat like Paul is willing to give Trump more credit on North Korea than Amoral Scumbag.

  544. DW says:

    jason,

    Vinko Bogataj ‘nearly won’ the 1970 ski-jumping contest.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV56dHLw0tw

  545. Bitterlaw says:

    My pancreas almost produces insulin.

  546. Wobbles says:

    And Jeb Bush almost won the 2016 GOP nomination.”

    He was close. You do the math.

    You only need 1,237 delegates and he had at least 4 nailed down.

  547. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC almost criticized Trump once.

  548. Wobbles says:

    It really came down to not having enough money.

    He spent 200 million for 4 delegates, he would have easily won with another 60 billion.

  549. mnw says:

    1) In Show Me State news, Sky Queen is gathering more bad publicity again, because of… zee plane, zee plane!

    2) While we were gnashing our teeth here last night about Stewart in VA Sen GOP primary, the msm are all about Sanford losing, & it’s being spun as a “Trump Is King Kong!” thing.

    Stewart isn’t getting much media attention so far.

    3) Trump ‘punching down’ at De Niro yesterday illustrates beautifully why he can be such a pain in the adz for his supporters, imo. WHY, Don? WHY?

    4) A brothel owner & pimp unseated an incumbent legislator in a GOP primary in rural NV yesterday. Heavy fave to win the GE, too.

  550. jason says:

    Be fair to Amoral Scumbag.

    He almost had it right that the GOP would lose 7 senate seats in 2016.

  551. DW says:

    The announcer’s call of that classic ‘agony of defeat’ ski jumping accident was pretty good too…”LOOK OUT! LOOK AT HIM GO…OHH WUH WUH WUH BABY!!!”

  552. jason says:

    Drudge seems quite willing to adopt the MSM line on the summit.

  553. DW says:

    And for the Paulbots still out there…

    Ron Paul ‘nearly won’ the 2008 and 2012 GOP nomination.

  554. mnw says:

    And the amnesty discharge petition has apparently failed in the House, because they were 2 RINOs short.

    I hope every damn one of those bastids get primaried next time.

  555. mnw says:

    49/49

  556. Michael says:

    Rasmussen:
    Trump JA 49/49
    GCB: D+4 (44-40)

  557. Tgca says:

    So what do folks think about moving to Philadelphia?

  558. jason says:

    So what do folks think about moving to Philadelphia?”

    I would rather kill myself.

  559. Boonu says:

    Iowa is Paul country!

  560. Boonu says:

    Rand Paul is inevitable in 2016 because young people supported Ron Paul in 2012 and there will be more of them in 2016.

  561. Wobbles says:

    There was almost a brokered convention to stop Romney in 2012 and there was almost a brokered convention to draft Romney in 2016.

  562. Robbie says:

    There are no tanks in Baghdad.

    Donald J. Trump
    ?@realDonaldTrump

    Just landed – a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!
    5:56 AM – 13 Jun 2018

  563. jason says:

    And the amnesty discharge petition has apparently failed in the House, because they were 2 RINOs short.

    WE ARE WINNING!

  564. Mr.Vito says:

    Ryan supposedly worked to make sure it failed. Im guessing rhe right people were given a pass to vote for it… people like Curbelo, who would be dumb to primary over it.

  565. jason says:

    Although the summit certainly was a positive step and exceeded expectations, Amoral Scumbag is not happy.

    Like I said, if Trump discovered the cure for cancer Amoral scumbag would say it was bad because it would increase the world’s population. If he got a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians it would put a lot of terrorists out of work and increase unemployment.

  566. mnw says:

    VDH on Zero’s Iran deal:

    “Born in deceit, sold by deception, and kept alive by willful blindness”

    Let’s hear it for Senator Bob Corker, everybody! Remember, his ACU rating is 100%!

  567. Tgca says:

    …and why does my BFF Jason Pooh Pooh Philadelphia?

  568. jason says:

    ust landed – a long trip, but everybody can now feel much safer than the day I took office. There is no longer a Nuclear Threat from North Korea. Meeting with Kim Jong Un was an interesting and very positive experience. North Korea has great potential for the future!”

    I would have said there is a decreased threat from North Korea, not that its over. Sounds too much like “mission accomplished” which the MSM used to skewer GWB with.

    The rest is good.

  569. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 13, 2018 at 8:58 am
    Drudge seems quite willing to adopt the MSM line on the summit.

    – That’s because North Korea got everything they could have wanted.

    *legitimacy on the world
    *end to military training exercises
    *only offered vague assurances to denuclearize at some point in the future, maybe
    *Trump claimed Kim loved his people even though as many as 200,000 are in gulags

    Meanwhile, the US got what? A ceremonial coin.

  570. jason says:

    Let’s hear it for Senator Bob Corker, ”

    Bob Corker is the hero of the Iran deal, you wouldn’t even know the details if not for him.

    So yes, three cheers for Bob Corker!

  571. jason says:

    Ah yes, now Amoral Scumbag is big fan of Drudge?

    Who knew?

  572. jason says:

    …and why does my BFF Jason Pooh Pooh Philadelphia?”

    Their scrapple sucks.

    They make scrapple for elite suburbanites like Bitter.

    Here we used the best cuts for scrapple, the snouts, lips, jowls, etc.

  573. jason says:

    I have not used my concealed weapon once to stop any crimes since moving to Amish land.

    In Philadelphia I would probably have had to use it a couple dozen times already.

  574. jason says:

    Philly cheese steaks are overrated.

  575. Tgca says:

    584

    Duh! I’m a vegetarian.

    Besides, word games don’t interest me. I’d rather do cryptograms.

  576. jason says:

    On the positive side, you would be close to the A-hole Clubhouse, but we rarely invite anyone in.

  577. Tgca says:

    PA allows concealed weapons? Does this mean I can carry my loaded Ruger in my pants pocket?

  578. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:01 am
    Although the summit certainly was a positive step and exceeded expectations, Amoral Scumbag is not happy.
    Like I said, if Trump discovered the cure for cancer Amoral scumbag would say it was bad because it would increase the world’s population. If he got a peace deal between Israel and the Palestinians it would put a lot of terrorists out of work and increase unemployment.

    – You’re right for once, Jason fraud. I’m not happy. Rather than forcing North Korea to come to us with immediate concessions. Trump went running to them with immediate concessions like ending military training exercises and, even worse, using the North’s wording for them – “provocative”. Why? Because all Dear Leader Trump wanted was a photo op and that’s what he got.

    Just as bad, Trump treated Kim, a brutal dictator, as an equal with the US on the world stage. He called him a great leader who loves his people. Really? He loves his people so much he has 200,000 of them in gulags. He loved his brother so much he had him murdered with VX and had an uncle executed by mortar fire. He loved one of his generals so much he had him killed by a pack of wild dogs. That’s love, right?

    I recognize, though, that you have devoted yourself to defending ALMOST everything Trump does now under the guise of accepting the election results. I guess that means you’re going to support Confederate flag loving alt-righter Corey Stewart as well. He won so accept it, right?

    But really, you just demonstrate you’re a fraud who supports ALMOST everything Trump does because he has a R after his name. Of course, had Obama done exactly, word for word, the same thing Trump did with Kim, you would be in an uproar. But then again, Obama had a D after his name.

  579. mnw says:

    Without good ole Bob Corker to provide political cover, there would have BEEN no Iran deal!

    At least he’s consistent, though. He torched Trump’s adz for pulling the U.S. out of that POS. He & his buddy Kerry.

  580. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #581- Robbie That’s a weak list. The NoKo’s need two things urgently. To wit: (1) immediate hard currency and (2) the abandonment of sanctions.
    Neither were given with no future promises.
    Can you clarify three(3) points you made the other day:
    (1) you claimed that the repatriation of the remains of American servicemen from the Korean War will come at $1 million per body.
    (2) you claimed that the South Korean government was opposed to the suspension of major war exercises. Please provide a link for this claim from a reputable SoKo source.
    (3) you claimed that the Pentagon was caught by surprise by the suspension of the war games. Please provide a link to a non-anonymous source that this is true.

    By the way, if you believe that Guam counts, its Governor is delighted by the NoKo/ USA meeting results.

  581. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca – If you visit Philadelphia, the A-holes will embrace you.

  582. jason says:

    Without good ole Bob Corker to provide political cover, there would have BEEN no Iran deal!”

    Good candidate for stupidest comment of the month, and considering Amoral Scumbag is posting, quite a feat.

    Corker had nothing to do with the concept, negotiations, process, signing, implementation or ANYTHING to do with the Iran deal.

    Nothing, nada, zilch.

    He opposed it from day one, and was instrumental in getting out the details which Obama was hiding.

    Elections have consequences. The Iran “deal” was a consequence of electing Obama.

    Just like the fact Obama was able to get a lot his agenda through was a result of idiots like you supporting deadenders for the Senate and helping liberal Dems get elected.

  583. jason says:

    But really, you just demonstrate you’re a fraud who supports ALMOST everything Trump does”

    EUREKA!!

    THE GOAL POSTS HAVE MOVED!

    AMORAL SCUMBAG NOW CLAIMING I SUPPORT “ALMOST” EVERYTHING TRUMP DOES, DOWN FROM “EVERYTHING” JUST YESTERDAY.

    MAYBE EVENTUALLY HE WILL STOP LYING AND ADMIT I ONLY SUPPORT TRUMP WHEN I THINK HE IS DOING SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY.

    AND THE NORTH KOREA SUMMIT WAS EXCELLENT FOR THE COUNTRY.

  584. jason says:

    PA allows concealed weapons? Does this mean I can carry my loaded Ruger in my pants pocket?”

    Yes, took less than 15 minutes.

    There is a firearms office in the courthouse.

    They do an instant background check, take your picture and there is a machine that makes the permit right then and there.

    I parked in a 15 minute parking zone and was out before time expired.

    However, your physical address has to match the one on your driver’s license or it will take longer.

  585. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mwn
    I agree with you about Corker’s involvement in the Iran Nuclear Agreement.
    Corker legitimized the Agreement by not insisting that the Senate vote for it as a Treaty.
    He opposed the Deal, but not to the point where he was willing to “go to the mats” to scuttle it.
    Jason’s arguments are merely excuses for Corker’s weak performance on the matter.

    Corker is the classic GOPe politician who goes along to get along and has a spine of spaghetti!
    He will not be missed in 2019 and since I live a few minutes from the TN border in the NC, all who pay attention know that Corker wants the Democrat in the TN Senate race to beat Marsha Blackburn(R).

  586. Tgca says:

    593 Bitter

    I’m not looking to visit Philly, I’ve been there a number of times, though not recently except for a drive through. I’m considering moving there.

    Many of you may not know but I’m bi

    …bi-regional, that is. I go back and forth from FL and the NJ/NYC area. I’ve worked in NYC years back so not sure I’d really want to live there. But Philly might be a reasonable compromise. Being the 6th largest US city in a large metro area with access to the city life and quiet surrounding towns and close to many areas of interest, might be good for me.

  587. mnw says:

    I see that Trudeau suddenly did an about face on establishing diplomatic relations with Iran yesterday. A 180. Trump effect.

    jason

    I don’t appreciate your name-calling. Can’t you state your position without being abusive? At least I save that for the trolls.

    If you don’t understand how essential Corker was in passing the JCPOA, then no-one will convince you. That’s ‘gaslighting,” trying to convince someone to see something that doesn’t exist.

    You are the only one on the planet who thinks Corker didn’t provide GOP cover for the JCPOA, & he’s STILL defending it. Did you know that? If he was “always opposed” to it, how do you explain that?

  588. Tgca says:

    596

    I already have a concealed weapons license in another state. I wonder if that would be recognized in PA. Some states do not have reciprocity on such licenses.

  589. Robbie says:

    Uh oh.

    ABC News
    @ABC

    BREAKING: Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen likely to cooperate with federal prosecutors in New York as his attorneys leave case, sources tell @ABC News. https://abcn.ws/2JzQTWy

  590. jason says:

    Tgca, PA is one of the most gun friendly states in the country, thanks to a strong R majority in the state houss and senate.

    And your firearms permit is good in 33 states including Florida so your Florida permit is good here too.

  591. Waingro says:


    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    June 13, 2018 at 7:57 am

    A new Ohio Poll by Suffolk shows the Democrats in the lead for the Senate by 13 and Governor by 7.
    Amy Walters from the Charlie Cook Report is skeptical.

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/06/12/ohio-governor-senate-poll/693957002/

    I am very skeptical as well, particularly the governor’s race, which has shown DeWine consistently leading.

    Let’s put it this way: if this poll is even remotely a true measure of what’s coming in the midterms, than we are talking Total Blue Tidal Wave. Bigger waves than 2010 and 2006.

  592. mnw says:

    Sheep

    The proof of Bob “pallets of cash” Corker’s perfidity is that he’s still out there today criticizing Trump for pulling out of the agreement!! … which jason has explained “Corker always opposed.”

    Corker was the indispensable useful idiot who enabled Zero &thereby nearly capitulated to a nuclear Iran.

  593. jason says:

    Tgca,I could drive to FL with my gun but would have to avoid SC for some reason. And VA says “see website” so there might be restrictions. But I would be clear through WV, KY, TN, GA to FL. Could drive to ID or AZ too, but would have to stay out of IL, NE and NM. It’s even good in Alaska.

  594. jason says:

    Corker was the indispensable useful idiot who enabled Zero &thereby nearly capitulated to a nuclear Iran.”

    BS, twilight zone crap.

  595. Waingro says:

    #601, excited, Robbie?

  596. Robbie says:

    MAGA

    My Attorney Got Arrested

  597. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    June 13, 2018 at 10:49 am
    #601, excited, Robbie?

    Eh. It’s big news though.

  598. mnw says:

    DW

    The DEMs may have helped themselves yesterday in VA-10, -07 & -02. According to Doug Schoen, they nominated moderate women– veterans, small businesswomen, etc., who want no part of impeachment talk. Two of these are way above your line, I believe. Comstock was always thought be problematical.

    jason

    Why is Mullah Corker still condemning Trump for pulling out of the JCPOA? I mean, since “Corker always opposed it’?

    It’s a lot easier to type “twilight zone BS’ than to answer the question, isn’t it.

  599. mnw says:

    FOX now shows MT Sen as tossup. I THINK that’s a change.

  600. DW says:

    Both PPP-D and Economist/You Gov are D+6 on the generic ballot today

  601. DW says:

    611- that was already in my dashboard, so I don’t think it was a change:

    2018 Paladin Senate Dashboard
    ———————————————————–
    ST | Cnt | Cook |Gonz | Saba | NYT | Fox | CNN | RCP | Score
    ———————————————————–
    NE | 46 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4
    MS | 47 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5
    TX | 48 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.4
    TN | 49 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1
    —-Democrats need ALL the below for control—-
    MO | 51 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    IN | 50 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    FL | 49 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    WV | 48 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    ND | 47 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    AZ | 46 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    NV | 45 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.2
    MT | 44 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8
    OH | 43 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2
    WI | 42 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.7
    MN | 41 | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.7
    PA | 40 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4
    MI | 39 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.2
    NJ | 38 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -4.5
    VA | 37 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.1
    ME | 36 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4

  602. Waingro says:

    #609, “Eh. It’s big news though.”

    If true, yes. Seems like the ABC News piece is based mostly on, of course, unnamed “sources” and at least, in part, on speculation.

    Let’s put it this way: even IF Cohen is thinking of “cooperating” with the prosecution, I can’t imagine he would do this pro se (i.e. without the representation and advice of counsel).

    If his current counsel is indeed withdrawing from the case, I guarantee he will have new counsel that may still advise him not to do that. In other words, this is all very fluid until we get some more info.

  603. DW says:

    NJ_03 – Dem Internal

    Tom MacArthur (R-Inc) 48
    Andy Kim (D) 44

    When you release your internal to show you are down ‘only four’, you let everyone know you ain’t winnin’

  604. mnw says:

    DW

    I guess u r right about FOX & MT.

    CFG is all in for Rosendale. I’ll bet all those MT “lean Ds” will soon start to fall like dominoes. That’s just glaring political incompetence.

  605. DW says:

    updated house dashboard with new poll, so you can see where NJ_03 falls…

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————–
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2
    FL_25 R | 165 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.8
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8
    CA_50 R | 171 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    NC_02 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    OH_14 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    WI_06 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    KY_06 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2
    MI_08 R | 204 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    TX_32 R | 205 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 2
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 43/33
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.6
    NJ_07 R | 217 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    IL_12 R | 218 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    TX_23 R | 217 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4
    MN_03 R | 216 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/47
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    VA_10 R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4
    CA_39* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.6
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2
    CA_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6
    MN_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2

    *indicates open seat

  606. Waingro says:

    #611, “FOX now shows MT Sen as tossup.”

    I THINK that’s a change.is that based on any new polling?

  607. Waingro says:

    “Both PPP-D and Economist/You Gov are D+6 on the generic ballot today”

    And Ras has it at D+4. Likely means those Rueters/NBC polls from last week were huge outliers.

  608. Waingro says:

    Speaking of Reuters, their 5 day tracker has it at D+8.6, so a modest drop from that massive D+11 from last week.

    http://polling.reuters.com/#!response/TM1212Y17/type/smallest/filters/PD1:1/dates/20180301-20180611/collapsed/true

  609. Mr.Vito says:

    “If he was “always opposed” to it, how do you explain that?”

    TDS?

  610. DW says:

    These ups and downs in the trackers that are so sudden without any change in the national narrative says more about the polling reliability than it does about the national narrative.

  611. Waingro says:

    #622, right, nd not just the trackers. The wild swings in the generic ballot from the traditional pollsters has been like nothing I have ever seen before.

    Part of me just wants to say: let’s just wait to see what the polls say post-Labor Day, but as poll junky, of course I can’t do that!

  612. jason says:

    Why is Mullah Corker still condemning Trump for pulling out of the JCPOA? ”

    Apples and oranges.

    I always opposed the Iran “deal” too, but have mixed feelings about pulling out of unilaterally at this point, since it appears to be at least partially working and Iran already got the money anyway.

    I would prefer that Trump act in concert with our allies, and I while I support trying to get a better deal, I am not sure no deal is in our interest either since it will just lead to a nuclear Iran.

  613. Mr.Vito says:

    Schoen: Attacking Trump is now a losing strategy in BOTH parties — That’s the real takeaway from Tuesday’s primaries

  614. jason says:

    Amoral scumbag now has a new hope for overturning the results of the election.

    Michael Cohen.

    Hope springs eternal.

    Meanwhile, food stamp enrollment dips to its lowest in 7 years.

  615. Mr.Vito says:

    If the flux in polling was real, it has to be questioned why trumps approval did not move as well.

    There are two things that I can think of that distinguished the GOP from Trump during that time period.

    1) reports that congressional republicans have gone into sleep mode while Trump has been very active

    2) vocal opposition to Trumps trade policies

    Anything else?

  616. jason says:

    “If he was “always opposed” to it, how do you explain that?”

    TDS?”

    It could be. Some of Corker’s attacks on Trump are as stupid as Trump’s attacks on him.

    But it doesn’t make him responsible for the Iran deal. That is garbage.

    “WASHINGTON – President Donald Trump and the White House were using a line of attack often hurled by some conservatives when they claimed this week that Sen. Bob Corker was responsible for the Iran nuclear deal.

    But the facts don’t back them up.

    Corker, chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, opposed the nuclear deal and spoke out frequently against the international pact, which was negotiated by the administration of President Barack Obama in 2015.

    In one particularly memorable exchange, the Tennessee Republican hauled then-Secretary of State John Kerry before his committee, grilled him about the deal and then proclaimed bluntly: “I believe you’ve been fleeced.”

    In Congress, Corker led the opposition to the agreement and authored legislation that put in place a process for lawmakers to review and eventually vote on the deal. Obama had planned to implement the agreement without congressional approval before Corker’s bipartisan legislation.

    In addition to giving Congress a say in the deal, the Corker-authored bill required that the president certify every 90 days that Iran is complying with the terms of the nuclear agreement.

    Trump, who has derided the nuclear pact as “the worst deal ever,” is expected to announce this week that he will not certify the agreement — the beginning of a process that could eventually lead to the return of U.S. sanctions against Iran.

    Yet despite his vocal opposition to the nuclear agreement, the perception that Corker was somehow responsible for the deal has persisted in some conservative circles, despite evidence to the contrary.”

  617. Cash Cow TM says:

    600
    JUNE 11, 2018
    Homes that have been destroyed by lava from Hawaii’s Kilauea Volcano since May, making it the most damaging eruption since at least 1980.
    Source: Reuters

  618. Phil says:

    Short of massive military action (which is too costly in lives and treasure) the mullahs were going nuclear anyway. The “inspections” under this deal were an absolute joke. We got screwed with all the money up front. It was awful. Kerry needs to be in jail for treason if there was any justice to all of this.

  619. Waingro says:

    So the Georgie Porgie “scoop” about Cohen looks like Fake News.

    “Mr. Cohen doesn’t yet have a replacement law firm but is searching for a federal criminal lawyer in New York, people familiar with the matter said. Mr. Cohen wants to hire a lawyer with close ties to the Manhattan U.S. attorney’s office, the people said.

    Mr. Cohen hasn’t yet decided whether he will cooperate with prosecutors in the case, according to one of those people. He hasn’t been charged with any crime. ”

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-lawyer-michael-cohens-attorneys-expected-to-quit-his-case-1528903379

  620. Wobbles says:

    So the Georgie Porgie “scoop” about Cohen looks like Fake News.”

    Can he be impeached for commenting on fake journolist Mika’s face?

    Let’s not forget that.

  621. Wobbles says:

    If Trump hadn’t pulled out of the climate accord the Hawaii eruption would not have happened.

  622. Wobbles says:

    I predict that if Trump is impeached next year we will see only 9 major hurricanes instead of 12.

  623. Big Joe says:

    Hi folks,

    I hope everyone’s doing well.. Dave, who will pobably never read this, hope you and the family are well.

    Peace out!

    Big Joe

  624. Chicon says:

    The Cohen stuff was given to the Southern District of New York US Attorney to handle. I doubt Mueller allows that to happen if the stuff around Cohen has to do with Trump. But, who knows (other than Robbie)?

  625. janz says:

    Just some takeaways from yesterday’s primaries: I’m especially disappointed that Nick Freitas lost to Stuart. A mere 5000 votes separated the two men, with Freitas being by far the most desirable candidate. I’m also surprised by the Sanford loss, and don’t believe DT’s last minute tweet had anything to do with that outcome.

    As for the recent summit – I’m just relieved nuclear tension has at least been diminished. How much denuclearization in NOKO will happen is far from clear, especially considering the 2 men negotiating these decisions. But, whatever the naysayers or Trump fans may say, this summit signaled a starting point and nothing else. It’s too bad that politics, though, always seems to have the bull horn, rather than common sense, unbiased analysis.

  626. jason says:

    Hey Big Joe, good to see you drive by.

    Best wishes to you too.

  627. mnw says:

    jason

    How would you respond to Sheep’s point that Corker was responsible for exempting the JCPOA from the two-thirds treaty requirement vote? Assuming you concede Corker was responsible for that, how do you justify it?

    Where did you get that quote about “in some conservative circles”?

    As near as I can tell, your argument seems to be that Corker’s essential role in facilitating Congressional approval for the JCPOA was benign in every respect?

    P.S. Kindly don’t call me abusive names when we disagree, but then solicit my support when one of the trolls misquotes you.

  628. mnw says:

    http://www.airclaire.com

    Very funny.

    NRSC ads are good too, except so far no-one in MO has ever seen them.

  629. mnw says:

    The link above is a scam. The airclaire game has a good link at RRH, however.

  630. jason says:

    Yep, Stuart is a deadender as they come.

  631. jason says:

    Hmmm..

    as deadender as they come.

  632. mnw says:

    “Cardin and Corker Clinch Iran Deal”

    Politico, April, 2017

  633. jason says:

    P.S. Kindly don’t call me abusive names when we disagree, but then solicit my support when one of the trolls misquotes you.”

    GFY.

    I don’t need your support, I mentioned you because you accuse me of the opposite of what Amoral Scumbag did.

    “CPOA from the two-thirds treaty requirement vote”

    And of course there is no “treaty” so there was no 2/3 vote in the offing.

    IF it had been a treaty, it would have required a 2/3 Senate approval.

    The Iran deal was never presented as a treaty, and nobody could transform it into one.

    Elections have consequences.

  634. jason says:

    “Cardin and Corker Clinch Iran Deal”

    Wow, that is great intellectual dishonesty.

    Neither Corker or Corker had anything to do with the negotiating the Iran deal, it probably refers to Corker’s efforts to get the details divulged, not the deal itself.

    As stated above, Corker ALWAYS opposed the “deal” and led the congressional efforts against it.

    If he had anything to do with it, would he tell Kerry he got fleeced?

  635. DW says:

    CNN updated a few of their rankings, most notably, dropping CA_10 from Lean R to Tossup. So I have posted the dashboard again below to reflect the changes as well as a number more that I was able to find polling on, even if somewhat dated.

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————–
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    NC_02 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    WI_06 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    KY_06 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 204 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    TX_32 R | 205 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 2 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 43/33
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    VA_10 R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R)
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    CA_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    MN_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  636. mnw says:

    Thx, DW.

  637. Mr.Vito says:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/11/obama-iran-deal-corker-bill/

    There is no question Corker facilitated the Iran deal, but the question was whether he

    (a) was facilitating the deal as a calculated political exchange, to reveal what was in it, to use as a hammer for 2016, and believing the next president could just nix it
    (b) was facilitating the deal actively, using ‘find out what’s in it’ as a ruse, and causing the deal to appear binding and making it politically uncomfortable to withdraw from the deal
    (c) was facilitating the deal unknowingly, because he is a moron, forcing everyone else to play 3d chess with points (a) and (b)

    Since Trump is reinstating the sanctions, it would appear a lot of the hand-wringing was overblown.

  638. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca – Philadelphia should be the 5th largest US city. Phoenix cheats by counting outlying areas.

    It is a great place to live. The A-holes are welcoming to somebody like you. There is an area known as the Gay or hood if you want to live there. A Fabulous dude like you may also like Old City, Rittenhouse Square, or Fairmount. If you were straight, young and drunk, I would recommend Manayunk.

  639. Mr.Vito says:

    Consistently, there has been no relief in sanctions for North Korea.

  640. NYCmike says:

    “Bob Corker is the hero of the Iran deal, you wouldn’t even know the details if not for him.”

    -I have to say, jason adds years to my life every time he calls Corker a “hero”……it really lowers the blood pressure, relieves the stress…..it has to be one of the funniest statements I have ever heard!

    And the fact that he keeps using it is even more hilarious!

  641. NYCmike says:

    I also have come to know the HHR dictionary printer, and he has convinced me that jason is the best thing to happen to him since Guttenberg started tinkering in his shop.

  642. mnw says:

    Q-pac OH:

    Brown (D) +17 over Rennaci (R) for Sen

    Cordray (D) +2 over DeWine (R) for Gov

  643. mnw says:

    Flake & Corker still have to decide who gets the topline on the #NeverTrump ticket in 2020.

  644. Waingro says:

    #655, and here is the link. Brutal. Corroborates the Suffolk poll a bit. Renacci has a LOT of ground to make up.

    https://poll.qu.edu/ohio/release-detail?ReleaseID=2548

  645. Waingro says:

    #656, Corker is a coward. He would never do it. I could see Flake giving it a go — maybe with Kasich.

  646. Tgca says:

    602

    Good to know Jason. Being locked and loaded comes in handy, like when I’m ordering my meals in a restaurant, I find I get better service if the staff knows what that excess bulge in the pants represents.

  647. CG says:

    As people may know, I distrust jason thoroughly and dislike many things about him. However, he is absolutely correct about Corker and the Iran Deal.

    There is simply no universe where Corker either surpasses Obama or shares with Obama in the blame.

    jason needs to realize the kind of conspiratorial, low-information folks who traffic in such nonsense when he aligns with them at other times.

  648. Tgca says:

    637 Janz

    I agree on Sanford. I don’t like him at all and glad he lost. I seriously doubt Trump’s tweet a few hours before the polls closed resulted in a 4% vote difference. It may be true that his criticism of Trump in the past may have played a part and Trumpsters moved away from him over time but it does not seem rational that Trump’s tweet late on Election Day was the cause of his primary defeat.

  649. CG says:

    In the meantime, not only did Trump not intervene to try to stop the Republican nomination of unabashed white supremacist Corey Stewart in Virginia, he is glad he won.

    Trump is Tweeting today that he fully supports Stewart and that he Stewart actually has a good chance of winning. I guess he doesn’t even realize that his own campaign had found it necessary to fire Stewart.

  650. DW says:

    I know its two OH polls, but I am still skeptical. Quinnipiac’s final 2016 polls had Trump ahead by 3, he won by 8. So I think DeWine is probably at least tied if not ahead in the Gov race, and its way too soon to give up on Renacci. In 2014 Mark Warner had Gillespie in a similar polling position at this point, and that race came down to the wire.

  651. Tgca says:

    605. Jason

    I did not know about NM. I have driven to AZ from FL with a loaded gun in the passenger compartment of my car more than once. For Some reason I thought that was not a problem.

    As for traveling to and from the Northeast, I never keep my gun in the passenger compartment of the car. I keep it in my locked gun box with the magazine empty and separated from the gun. That is because in NJ and probably some other northeast states, you can be arrested and prosecuted for having a loaded gun even in a locked box in the trunk. In fact, in NJ, you can be prosecuted for having a loaded magazine detached from a gun In your vehicle. You can also be prosecuted for having an empty magazine that holds more than 10 bullets. It’s absurd!

    There is a lawyer in NJ who specializes on gun law and he wrote a book specifically on what you can and cannot do in NJ with respect to guns. That’s why I would love to see complete reciprocity across all states in the US for concealed weapons licenses. I understand ignorance of the law is not a defense but a woman driving from PA with a concealed weapons permit and a loaded gun or magazine in her trunk should not be prosecuted and sent to jail for five years minimum sentence. However, I doubt that we will see Congress push reciprocity because they’re weaklings.

  652. NYCmike says:

    “jason needs to realize the kind of conspiratorial, low-information folks who traffic in such nonsense when he aligns with them at other times.”

    -Heh.

    This may be better than the “hero” phrase!

    Who knew The Founding Fathers created a system where 60+ Senators can vote AGAINST something…….which would mean it passes…….

  653. NYCmike says:

    Ohio will be close for both races. I will predict when we get closer, but I will NOT be surprised if BOTH Republicans win those respective races. They will not be considered surprises, at least by me.

  654. CG says:

    OH Gov will be close and I would give a slight edge to DeWine. The Senate race will likely not be close.

    People do not seem to understand the powers of the Executive under the Constitution when it comes to “national security.”

    Obama was able to get the horrible Iran deal done, just because he wanted it done. It’s the same situation where Trump is saying that we need to have a trade war with Canada because of “national security” and there doesn’t seem to be anything Congress can do about it.

    Corker is consistent and he tried to exert the approval of Congress and Trump’s acolytes said no and that he gets to do whatever he wants just because he is President. No different than how Obama’s acolytes acted.

    So, on the North Korean “deal”, is Trump going to keep his word and present it as a treaty or is he just already saying, “problem solved. I alone fixed it?”

  655. Tgca says:

    650 Bitter

    Not sure I wish to live in a gay neighborhood. I lived in San Francisco many years and that was enough. I prefer a safe quiet neighborhood where I can walk about with my dogs and that has local restaurants, coffee shops, and movie theaters. I think I might want to lease a small house at 1st to start.

    I am sure when the time is right, you and Michael can take me on a tour of all the gay bars and get me toasted on zero coke. Maybe I can even try on Michael’s salmon-colored jacket. Not sure of his height and body type, though I did hear he might be a bit on the chubby side.

  656. Robbie says:

    Jason fraud currently writing sternly worded emails to Asian news services who don’t understand the awesome negotiating skills of Dear leader trump.

    Mary Kissel
    @marykissel

    South Korea’s @Chosun: ‘diplomacy for the kindergarten’; ‘the U.S. is on the road to accepting North Korea as nuclear-armed state’

    Mary Kissel
    @marykissel

    From @JapanTimes: #TrumpKimSummit ‘exceptionally ordinary’; ‘notable more for what it did not do, rather than what it did.’

    Mary Kissel
    @marykissel

    Australia’s @smh: ‘Summit of Illusions’; ‘may seem like progress but on closer inspection it melts away.’

    Mary Kissel
    @marykissel

    Taiwan’s @taipei_times: #TrumpKimSummit ‘left many questions unanswered’; ‘Beijing would also have been reassured by the apparent ease with which Trump was out-maneuvered’

    Mary Kissel
    @marykissel

    And lastly, the Commie propagandists at @ChinaDaily: ‘could be epoch-making’; ‘Trump and Kim should do their utmost to agree on their next step so as to maintain the positive momentum.’

  657. jason says:

    As people may know, I distrust jason thoroughly and dislike many things about him.”

    I should retire, I mean, what else is there to live for.

    “thoroughly distrusted” by CG and “disliked on many things”.

    I guess I could hang around and go for the big enchiladada, when Corey declares he dislikes EVERYTHING about me.

  658. CG says:

    Michael is now a big political podcast star. He doesn’t really need HHR anymore.

  659. jason says:

    I know Corey hates white Hispanics, according to him only brown Hispanics are authentic.

  660. jason says:

    “I find I get better service if the staff knows what that excess bulge in the pants represents.”

    Is the service better if the staff is gay?

    I worked as a waiter once upon a time.. I don’t remember giving better service to big bulges.

    However, I probably did give more attention to women with big, hmmm….

  661. jason says:

    jason needs to realize the kind of conspiratorial, low-information folks who traffic in such nonsense when he aligns with them at other times.”

    Hello?

    If I align with anybody they are automatically non-conspiratiorial or low information.

    If I agree with them they are probably very intelligent.

    Of course, intelligence is fleeting, they could be dumb as rocks on the next post.

  662. jason says:

    And now forget this North Korea distraction and let’s focus on truly MOMENTOUS NEWS:

    US, MEXICO AND CANADA TO HOST 2026 WORLD CUP!!

    MAGA!

  663. Mr.Vito says:

    It’s neat to find out everything Kim wanted this whole time was a date.

    Dinner, a movie, and some vague commitment to see each other again

  664. NYCmike says:

    https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/feds-collect-record-individual-income-taxes-through-may-still-run

    -How about we try to just keep spending at the same level for the next 10 years, maybe with small 2-4% increases each year?

    Is that so draconian that a Republican Congress could not make it happen? I wonder if Trump would veto such a small year-to-year spending increase. At least then I could blame him solely, and keep Bitterlaw from continuing to make a jack*ss out of himself.

  665. NYCmike says:

    https://amgreatness.com/2018/06/12/thank-god-trump-isnt-a-foreign-policy-expert/

    -I like Mary Kissel, so to find Robbie linking her twitter feed is a bit disconcerting….. 🙂 …….but, time will tell whom is correct.

  666. Wes says:

    DW, the VAGOP and DEGOP have both been on suicide missions since Obama was President. Why don’t they both judt disincorporate and quit making fools of themselves by doing everything possible to help the Dems win?

  667. Robbie says:

    This will trigger the libs so it’s all good. I believe Jesus advocated this very thing in the book of Mark.

    Kasie Hunt
    @kasie

    Infant ripped from mother’s arms while she was breastfeeding the baby at border detention center; mother handcuffed for resisting

  668. Wes says:

    By the way, while I’m loath to say it, I now think based on the pathetic GOP turnout in VA yesterday combined with Corey Stewart, Barbara Comstock–who would be Senator right now had Hillary won in 2016–will lose reelection in November.

    Comstock drew a strong, credible opponent, saw a nonserious Deadender get 38% in the primary, and has Corey Stewart leading the ticket while Dems strongly outpaced the GOP in the primary.

    I’m putting this one at Lean D Pickup with Likely probably not far off.

    Damnit.

  669. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 13, 2018 at 5:02 pm
    DW, the VAGOP and DEGOP have both been on suicide missions since Obama was President. Why don’t they both judt disincorporate and quit making fools of themselves by doing everything possible to help the Dems win?

    – Never forget how the VAGOP got to this point. In 2013, the real conservatives insisted on a convention rather than a primary to prevent Bolling from becoming the nominee. They wanted Cuccinelli, a certifiable clown, and EW Jackson. As a result, they lost an unlosable race. Five years later, Corey Stewart now is an accurate representation of the state party.

    This goes back to me point from last night. The base of the Republican Party is no longer conservative. It is populist. We saw this take shape in 2010 and the party has had to fight tooth and nail to put down the surefire losers. Regrettably though, populists who campaign on attitude and culture wars is what the base, lead by talk radio and FoxNews, want.

  670. Wes says:

    I’ve been a fan of Comstock since 2014. I’ve always thought she’s the kind of candidate the VAGOP needs to return to its glory days.

    Sadly the VAGOP wants to become more like the HIGOP than any other state Republican Party.

    Ergo, Tim Kaine gets a check mark immediately upon poll closing while Comstock will lose to a virulent leftist.

    yay?

  671. Wes says:

    Unfortunately I can disagree with nothing in your Post 682, Robbie.

  672. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 13, 2018 at 5:06 pm
    By the way, while I’m loath to say it, I now think based on the pathetic GOP turnout in VA yesterday combined with Corey Stewart, Barbara Comstock–who would be Senator right now had Hillary won in 2016–will lose reelection in November.

    – Stewart is going to be a lead weight on the House candidates. His confederate flag, confederate monuments focused campaign will crush Republican vote totals. In a disaster scenario, it could lead to four seats in VA turning over.

  673. Mr.Vito says:

    Same Kasie Hunt that shared the tweet of the kids in cages when it was during Obama’s term I assume.

    Hopefully she got the story from someone that vets better than the New York Times.

  674. Wes says:

    Might want to look at moving, DW. While I think overall the primary signs have been encouraging for the GOP, VA was a noteworthy exception. You’re probably living in Maryland South now.

  675. Mr.Vito says:

    “Hopefully she got the story from someone that vets better than the New York Times.”

    Nope. It was CNN.

  676. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 13, 2018 at 5:14 pm
    Unfortunately I can disagree with nothing in your Post 682, Robbie.

    – Look at all of the energy the dreaded establishment has had to spend since 2010 trying to prevent the base from nominating loser candidates. It’s not happening because the base is just misinformed, it’s happening because this is what the base wants.

    I wanted to believe after the 2014 primaries the Tea Party/populist revolt had been defeated. But by August 2015, it was clear to me the populists were in charge. And with Trump’s win, the populist rage in the base has only been super charged.

    Some of this will dissipate once Trump is gone, whether that’s tomorrow or in 2025. That said, the straight line of conservatism from Goldwater in 1964 to Reagan in 1980,to Newt in 1994 was broken in 2010 and 2016.

  677. Robbie says:

    By the way, those who argue the party will finally break or rein in Trump if the party suffers a bad 2018 loss are wrong.

    Trump and the populist base will only become stronger after a bad loss. Why? Those who are going to lose are moderates or not mouth breathers. That will leave just the hardcore Matt Gaetz style members. And the base will blame the loss on the establishment not supporting Trump enough.

  678. CG says:

    More recently, Corey Stewart defended alt-right anti-Semitic white nationalist Paul Nehlen by standing next to him on camera and calling him his “personal hero.”

    Donald Trump though celebrates the nomination of Stewart on Twitter and claims that he is going to win a Senate seat.

  679. Wes says:

    Nick Freitas would have been highly unlikely to beat Tim Kaine but would have provided him a credible challenger who could have held Kaine to a win of 10 or less.

    Corey Stewart is a male Christine O’Donnell Kaine will steamroll by about 30 points.

    While Comstock could have outrun Freitas in the district and won by dint of being a solid Congresswoman, I don’t see how against her best possible opponent she runs far enough ahead to win since Stewart will probably get about 30-35% of the vote in the district.

    Right now I’m expecting Wexton to win by about 52-47.

  680. Mr.Vito says:

    “More recently, Corey Stewart defended alt-right anti-Semitic white nationalist Paul Nehlen by standing next to him on camera and calling him his “personal hero.”

    NYTimes Fact Check:

    [Stewart] told The Washington Post this month that he had praised Mr. Nehlen “before he went nuts and started spewing a bunch of stupid stuff,” and tweeted on Friday, “Paul Nehlen has lost his marbles and needs serious help.”

    “Nobody knew who Kessler was back then,” he added in an interview Tuesday night. “Certainly I didn’t. I didn’t know he stood for all those horrible things. I want nothing to do with those things.”

    Mr. Stewart’s praise for Mr. Nehlen did come before Mr. Nehlen began making the overtly white supremacist and anti-Semitic remarks that would gain him national attention.”

  681. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    June 13, 2018 at 5:27 pm
    More recently, Corey Stewart defended alt-right anti-Semitic white nationalist Paul Nehlen by standing next to him on camera and calling him his “personal hero.”
    Donald Trump though celebrates the nomination of Stewart on Twitter and claims that he is going to win a Senate seat.

    – As I was informed many times last August, this is all the result of Antifa super soldiers.

  682. Robbie says:

    When was Paul Nehlan not nuts? Never. He’s always been nuts.

  683. Wes says:

    No, I am not MD or an RRH “Republican” determined to eeyore everything. This is simply the most realistic result I see in the Old Dominion.

    Not only will the VAGOP destroy itself in November, but it will also decimate its credible candidates for the future.

    The State Legislature won’t be far behind.

  684. CG says:

    Is there a date on the video of Stewart standing next to Nehlen?

    It was purported as having taken place within the past month.

    Nehlen went full anti-Semite on Twitter several months ago.

    Where is the link to this article?

  685. Mr.Vito says:

    Of course, it is the New York Times….

    they have been wrong before about Republicans… just not in their favor.

  686. Tgca says:

    700!

  687. Wes says:

    Even if Stewart disavows Nehlen, the video is enough for Kaine to torpedo him.

    A famous axiom of politics:

    If you’re explaining, you’re losing.

  688. Tgca says:

    200, 600, and 700 all in one thread. I’m da man!

  689. Mr.Vito says:

    701 Sure enough. But thought I would look it up myself… not the first time I wasn’t told the whole truth on here.

  690. CG says:

    Theoretically speaking, do the people here find it acceptable for a Virginia voter who cannot abide Stewart to vote against him? Can a conservative who does not want to support the inevitable reelection of Kaine, right someone in for example?

    Or does not voting for Stewart make someone a “despicable person” as has been described to those who could not vote for Roy Moore and Dana Rohrabacher. Does the “big picture” still mandate a vote for Stewart?

    What would NYC do?
    What would Bitter do?
    What will DW do?

  691. Robbie says:

    Regardless of Nehlan, why would anyone want a creep like Stewart in the US Senate? Just because someone has a R after his/her name doesn’t make them worthy of a vote. Stewart is just a populist goon.

  692. CG says:

    I did not have full and accurate information on the Stewart/Nehlen video.

    Providing that information is welcomed, although I don’t know if it is going to make me feel better or not.

    Stewart is bad news for Republicans and bad news for America. Neither of those things make me a fan of Tim Kaine.

  693. Wes says:

    I can’t speak for DW, but I know from his statements yesterday he doesn’t like Stewart. He may sit this one out. That’s what I’d do, but DW can speak for himself.

  694. Wes says:

    I despise Tim Kaine passionately, but unless he has a macaca moment ×100 he now has a Senate seat for life.

  695. Wes says:

    Personally if I lived in VA, I’d write Comstock in for Senate. At least then I could cast a meaningless vote with a clear conscience.

  696. Robbie says:

    The VAGOP disaster is really something considering the state’s rural profile. It should be a Republican leaning state, but the conservative morons got control of the state party and the results have been predictable.

    Along with VA, we’re likely to see something approaching an extinction level event for the GOP in NJ and CA. It’s more likely in a decade candidates like Barbara Comstock will be moderate Democrats.

  697. CG says:

    I would write in Bill Bolling (and would of course vote for Comstock in her district).

    Haven’t heard anything from him on years but came across his Twitter feed last night and his views on what has happened to the party pretty much mirror mine.

  698. Wes says:

    In the days before drug addiction fried his brain, Rush Limbaugh used to say, “Elections have consequences.”

    Yesterday’s VAGOP Senate primary is going to have far-reaching consequences in November.

  699. Mr.Vito says:

    I don’t care if someone votes for Stewart or not if they think the other candidate is better.

    I would note that the same courtesy was not extended to Trump voters.

    I think that spreading false information about any Republican is only going to lose all of your candidates more votes.

    That includes both sides, like calling Corker a traitor, too.

  700. Robbie says:

    Had the “real conservative” crowd not blown up the VAGOP in 2013, Bolling would have won and likely would have been in a prime position to challenge Kaine and beat him this year.

  701. Wes says:

    The NJGOP and CAGOP are already just shy of moribund, Robbie. Not much will change in either state, though if CA splits in November, the GOP in one of the areas can become relevant again.

  702. CG says:

    I will not knowingly spread false information a bout Corey Stewart. The known, verifiable information about him, and the things he says directly, are despicable enough.

  703. CG says:

    The Senate nominee in NJ, who is playing up his differences from Trump, might do better than expected against a very damaged Menendez in NJ. I don’t think it will be enough to win, but it’s something to watch.

  704. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 13, 2018 at 5:53 pm
    In the days before drug addiction fried his brain, Rush Limbaugh used to say, “Elections have consequences.”

    – It’s hard to understate how pivotal Rush Limbaugh’s turn to populism during the Obama years has corrupted the base. Add in the clowns on the FoxNews primetime lineup and you have the recipe for a party that’s more interested in tearing itself apart than anything else.

  705. Tgca says:

    Guilty by association? Ok…then…

    Jeb Bush did and said nothing after GH Bush was going around grabbing young ladies. He must think that is ok. After all, Jeb Bush stood next to GH Bush at Barbara Bush’ funeral long after he knew his dad was guilty of sexual harassment.

    Do conservatives need those who sexually harass or their unapologetic supporters in the GOP? No! Throw them out. Get out of the GOP Jeb!!! You pervert supporter! You’re father is a pervert!!!

  706. Wes says:

    Going further back, Robbie, Old Dominion Republicans essentially anointed George Allen–him of macaca fame–for Senate in 2012 when McDonnell before the attempted political railroad of him in 2013 could have beaten Kaine for Webb’s seat.

  707. CG says:

    Rush Limbaugh, per his transcripts on his website, has a new thing in which he rails against “globalists” and “one-worlders.”

    He all but says that Donald Trump exposed conservatism as a fraud and that whatever Trump stands for should be applauded for killing it off.

  708. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 13, 2018 at 5:55 pm
    The NJGOP and CAGOP are already just shy of moribund, Robbie. Not much will change in either state, though if CA splits in November, the GOP in one of the areas can become relevant again.

    – What will help the GOP in CA is the presidential primary date moving to very early in the process as is scheduled to happen in 2020.

    If the CA primary is fourth or fifth, that will force candidate to campaign there. It might reawaken dormant Republicans and it should also kill off idiot campaigns by the likes of Santorum and other underfunded vanity obsessed clowns.

  709. CG says:

    This is the same Rush Limbaugh , who gushed for weeks, when VP Al Gore praised him and used his endorsement for NAFTA in his Larry King debate against Ross Perot.

  710. Wes says:

    It’s also the same Rush Limbaugh who lauded the Senate primary victories of Al Salvi and Christine O’Donnell.

  711. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 13, 2018 at 5:58 pm
    Going further back, Robbie, Old Dominion Republicans essentially anointed George Allen–him of macaca fame–for Senate in 2012 when McDonnell before the attempted political railroad of him in 2013 could have beaten Kaine for Webb’s seat.

    – The maccaca moment 12 years ago foreshadowed the collapse of the party. I liked Allen, but he was never worth the hype he got back in the day.

  712. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    June 13, 2018 at 5:58 pm
    Rush Limbaugh, per his transcripts on his website, has a new thing in which he rails against “globalists” and “one-worlders.”

    – Give him time and he’ll be saying “Jews”.

  713. CG says:

    I don’t know if Rush will do that. He might still have Jewish doctors he depends on for prescriptions.

  714. Wes says:

    How long before Limbaugh goes full Alex Jones?

  715. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 13, 2018 at 6:02 pm
    It’s also the same Rush Limbaugh who lauded the Senate primary victories of Al Salvi and Christine O’Donnell.

    – Oh, I remember. The Obama presidency broke Rush. He’s nothing close to the person he was circa 2002.

  716. Wes says:

    Salvi was long before Obama, Robbie, but I take your point.

  717. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 13, 2018 at 6:04 pm
    How long before Limbaugh goes full Alex Jones?

    – In many ways, he’s already there. he just hasn’t put on the tinfoil hat.

  718. CG says:

    I’ve mentioned this somewhat recently, but people should check out Joe Walsh on talk radio.

    He pretty much loves Trump on the issues, is a complete anti-immigration hardliner in the realm of NYCMike, and loves all the politically incorrect aspects of him, but he is at least consistent in what he praises and what he criticizes regardless of if a D or R is attached.

  719. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    June 13, 2018 at 6:07 pm
    I’ve mentioned this somewhat recently, but people should check out Joe Walsh on talk radio.

    – “Woke” Joe Walsh has really been something.

  720. jason says:

    Never forget how the VAGOP got to this point. In 2013, the real conservatives insisted on a convention rather than a primary to prevent Bolling from becoming the nominee.”

    Huh, Wes is re-inventing history again.

    A primary would have had the same result, Cucinnelli would have crushed Bolling, an awful candidate… the polls showed a 3-1 lead for Cucinnelli.

    Not saying Cucinelli was a good candidate, but Bolling could never win a primary.

  721. jason says:

    Hey Amoral Scumbag, has Lord Arsehat issued his opinion on the summit yet?

  722. jason says:

    Ma, Coreyfish was too smart to go for that white Hispanic bait.

    But the NYCdumbfish went for the Corker hero bait as fast as the Amoral Scumbag goes for fake news story on Trump.

  723. Wes says:

    This, ladies and gentlemen, is how to run an effective campaign against an entrenched incumbent:

    http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/06/13/rick-scotts-latest-ad-compares-bill-nelson-to-a-broke-down-ford-pinto/

  724. Wes says:

    Jason’s the one reinventing history since not I but Robbie said that.

  725. Wes says:

    Of course Bolling was the top GOP votegetter in 2005 and won reelection by double digits in 2009, so naturally Jason reinvents history again by calling him an “awful candidate.”

  726. NYCmike says:

    “He all but says that Donald Trump exposed conservatism as a fraud and that whatever Trump stands for should be applauded for killing it off.”

    -Odd…..when I am actually in the car, LISTENING, between 12-3PM and Limbaugh is on the radio, the “all but says…” sounds a lot different than “CG”‘s unsubstantiated post about conservatism and Limbaugh.

  727. Wes says:

    That and Cucinnelli did deny voters a chance to choose between him and Bolling by creating that ludicrous convention system that gave us E. W. Jackson and led to the co.lapse of the VAGOP in 2013.

    Bolling planned to face Cuccinelli in the primary but withdrew once Cuccinelli got his stacked convention.

    All details Jason conveniently overlooks in his masturbatory Cuccinelli hagiographies.

  728. dblaikie says:

    726 Robbie you always amaze me just when I believe you can’t get any worse you reach a new low. Rush Limbaugh has always been a big time supporter of Israel! You are nothing but a race baiting underhanded scummy person when you accuse people of antisemitism with no proof. I can only wonder at what new low you will reach over the coming days.

    By the way, when the midterms happen in November, I will be here to either take my lumps or bask in victory, I hope you will have the guts and courage to do the same?

  729. Wes says:

    Of course, Jason, I didn’t see Bolling lose to a crook. Who’s the “awful candidate” now?

  730. NYCmike says:

    Odd…..when Angle, Mourdock, Akin etc lose, I don’t excuse their loss and hold them blameless……BUT, when Bolling, Lugar, Castle, etc lose their elections (either primary or general), it is always the other guys fault.

    SQUISHES INDEED!

  731. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 13, 2018 at 6:31 pm
    Hey Amoral Scumbag, has Lord Arsehat issued his opinion on the summit yet?

    – You can tell Trump is losing the PR war over his photo-op meeting with Kim because Jason fraud is riled up.

  732. Wes says:

    Mikey, I realize you need to sue your doctor for the botched lobotomy that left you a blithering moron, but let me help you out here:

    1) Bolling didn’t lose. He withdrew because Cuccinelli got a convention stacked with supporters.

    2) Lugar lost because of the same residency issue that would later torpedo Evan Bayh.

    3) Castle lost when the Tea Party and talk radio descended on Delaware to get a corrupt deadbeat nominated and help Chris Coons win a Senate seat.

    None of them lost a general election. Two lost primaries, one through his own indifference on a salient issue, the other because everyone from Rush Limbaugh to the primary voters in Delaware wanted Chris Coons to extend the Dems’ win streak in the Senate in Delaware.

    Too bad you have so little knowledge of politics.

    By the way, you and Vito told me Mourdock’s comments were completely inoffensive and noncontroversial. That being the case, clearly someone other than Mourdock must have caused Donnelly to win.

  733. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    June 13, 2018 at 6:46 pm
    726 Robbie you always amaze me just when I believe you can’t get any worse you reach a new low. Rush Limbaugh has always been a big time supporter of Israel! You are nothing but a race baiting underhanded scummy person when you accuse people of antisemitism with no proof. I can only wonder at what new low you will reach over the coming days.

    – LOL! What does Israel have to do with anything. Nice non sequitur. And how am I a race baiter? This reminds me of Jonesy troll randomly claiming I was anti-Semitic last year.

    Also, I’ve been meaning to ask you question.

    On May 2, super lawyer Rudy announced that Trump did, in fact, repay Michael Cohen for the $130,000 he paid to cover up Trump’s affair with porn star Stormy Daniels.

    Does Trump paying that money count as a redemptive act in your book?

  734. NYCmike says:

    “1) Bolling didn’t lose. He withdrew…”

    SQUISHES INDEED!

  735. Tina says:

    Dblaikie don’t not feed the troll.
    Policy 2.111

    The hillbots have been unhinged.

  736. NYCmike says:

    “By the way, you and Vito told me Mourdock’s comments were completely inoffensive and noncontroversial.”

    -Mr. Vito,

    Did either one of us say this?

    I don’t think I said it.

    Maybe I didn’t hear you from the sock drawer when you said it??

  737. Tina says:

    Has lord arsenal done any new polls?

  738. Wes says:

    Care to post the whole quote in context there, Mikey? You left out the critical part stating why Bolling withdrew.

  739. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    June 13, 2018 at 6:46 pm

    By the way, when the midterms happen in November, I will be here to either take my lumps or bask in victory, I hope you will have the guts and courage to do the same?

    – I’ve been an active member of this forum since September 2004. I enjoy mixing it up. I’m going anywhere.

    Regardless, I’m still trying to figure out how Trump appointing judges who are likely to be pro-life counts as a redemptive act for all of Trump rotten bad acts.

    Do you speak for God? God might prefer pro-life judges, but I doubt he supports policies that separate infants from their parents. Is that an anti-redemptive act?

  740. Tina says:

    Looks like there is now an investigation into swampstein for threatening investigations. Several congressional staffers witnessed this abusive behavior,

    If the investigation finds him at fault, swampstein needs to be fired.

  741. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 13, 2018 at 7:23 pm
    Has lord arsenal done any new polls?

    – Do you have shock therapy 5 days a week or does the schedule vary? What type of lotion do you use to deal with the burn marks on your temples? Have you ever accidentally bitten your tongue?

  742. Tina says:

    The Ig report will focus on fibi conduct re her thighness email scandal.

    It will not focus on the fisa abuses. That will be the third and final part.

  743. Robbie says:

    Does allowing Scott Pruitt to keep his job despite all of his scandals count as a redemptive act, Dblaikie?

    Where can I get your rulebook on what counts as a redemptive act?

  744. Tina says:

    Fuhrer Muleheads popularity continues to erode among ds, is, and Rs.

    The writer blames trump, but they should blame Rudy G and perhaps there heavy handed tactics, and wasting money.

  745. Tina says:

    The British almost won the Battle of New Orleans,

    Lebrun and the caves almost won this years finals.

  746. Tina says:

    Byron York
    @ByronYork
    Per new Morning Consult/Politico poll, groups with Trump job approval 50% or higher: Males 50% Age 45-54 54% Age 65+ 52% Boomers 50% Republicans 85% GOP Men 86% GOP Women 85% Conservatives 80% Income $100k+ 51% White 50%… 1/2

  747. dblaikie says:

    “Give him time and he’ll be saying “Jews”. Sorry Robbie, that is race baiting!

    It is called the Bible. It is called “go and sin no more.” If anyone repents, which means going away from the darkness into the light, that is always a redemptive act.

    You have too major problems the first is that you tend to always believe the negative stuff about people you don’t like and ignore anything that might be positive. Second, in your world view which is stark black and white, arbitrated by you, you remind me of a group of people in the Gospels — Pharisees.

    Oh and one more problem you always believe the media as if they were neutral about Trump.

    Sorry, Tina for feeding the beast.

  748. Wes says:

    It is called “go and sin no more.” If anyone repents, which means going away from the darkness into the light, that is always a redemptive act.

    You mean like the guy God killed instantly for the cardinal sin of reaching his hand out to steady the Ark of the Covenant, Db? Not exactly much chance for redemption there.

  749. Tina says:

    In Jebot land, the deity is Hillary.

  750. Phil says:

    It’s been a slow but steady drop in enthusiasm for the Mueller investigation with the voting electorate. The longer it goes with no real evidence of Trump collusion with Russia the more political it looks. Compare poll numbers when it started over a year ago to six months ago and to now. By the end of the summer it will drop even further.

    I don’t think the gradual loss of support for Mueller and this investigation has much to do with Trump’s efforts to discredit it. I just think it’s a function of months and months of breathless reporting about it by the media with nothing substantive turned up to connect Trump with Russia. Simple as that. People aren’t stupid. This whole thing like anything else in politics does not have an unlimited shelf life. I know that’s not what the Never Trumpers and Democrats want to hear, but it’s a fact.

    So far it’s been all hat no cattle or, as Schumer said today – all cattle no hat. LOL

  751. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Notice the Siamese Twins Robbie and CG are posted together again.

  752. NYCmike says:

    “Does allowing Scott Pruitt to keep his job despite all of his scandals count as a redemptive act, Dblaikie?”

    -“all of his scandals”?

    What does the word “scandals” mean on HHR nowadays?

  753. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    June 13, 2018 at 7:57 pm
    Notice the Siamese Twins Robbie and CG are posted together again.

    – Are you really this stupid, or just playing to peanut gallery at HHR?

  754. Tina says:

    It’s a scandal because Pruitt is doing his job, cutting regs and reducing the epa.

    Because you know real cons want the pea to increase in size and scope.

  755. Robbie says:

    DBlaikie claimed to speak for God by claiming that appointing pro-life judges somehow counted as a redemptive act for Trump.

    That’s just laughable because DBlaikie has no idea whether or not God cares one bit about judges. And just as importantly, DBlaikie has no idea whether Trump has genuinely changed his way. In fact, every single bit of evidence suggests Trump is the same person he’s always been.

    In order to get redemption, someone has to actually ask for forgiveness and genuinely believe the acts he/she committed were wrong. Trump’s never done anything like that and he never will.

    I totally understand that DBlaikie is excited that conservative judges are being appointed. I am as well, but leave it at that. Don’t sully religion and faith by claiming Dear Leader Trump is appointing conservatives judges as a way to atone for his awful personal life before he became president.

  756. Tina says:

    The bushes were against Pruitt being head of the epa.

    See rino whitmans comments.

    She also told Pruitt to be careful of any reg cuts.

  757. Phil says:

    I could do without the President telling us that the people of NK love Kim. I could also do without him telling us the nuclear threat from NK is over. Did I miss it that the North Koreans have already destroyed their stockpiles?

  758. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The latest from enlightened Germany,

    “The head of Germany’s most powerful cultural body has called for the plug to be pulled on the nation’s multitude of political talkshows for a year, arguing that their populist agenda has helped fuel the rise of the far right.

    Olaf Zimmermann, who heads the German cultural council, an umbrella group for organisations from art galleries to television companies, said public broadcasters needed to step back and rethink a format that has helped cement gloom-ridden public attitudes towards refugees and Islam, and propelled the into parliament at last September’s election.

    “I’d suggest for them, take a break for a year … though the length of the intermission isn’t the decisive factor. What is crucial is that they return with new talkshow concepts and try to come up with more suitable contents with regards to social cohesion in our society,” Zimmermann said, arguing that the public broadcasters ARD and ZDF were obsessed with refugee-related issues, often framing them negatively.”

  759. Robbie says:

    Ah, the pharisee argument by Dblaikie. I guess someone who believes Trump has become a good Christian man because Trump is appointing judges he likes would have to resort to claiming people who disagree with him are being too rigid and seeing things in black and white.

    Since I attend Catholic Mass every week, I know full well the Bible is full of black and white. Are the Ten Commandments black and white or are they littered with shades of gray? What about the Beatitudes? Are they littered with shades of gray.

  760. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    769. “– Are you really this stupid, or just playing to peanut gallery at HHR?”

    A fact is a fact Robbie. It seems you purpose of trolling the board is to insult and abuse the other posters. It is bizarre behavior.

  761. Robbie says:

    Congrats to Janine Pirro on her new job as WHite House press secretary!

    The story says the two plan to leave towards the end of the year.

    CBS News
    @CBSNews

    BREAKING NEWS: Sarah Sanders and Raj Shah are preparing to leave the White House, sources tell CBS News.

  762. Tina says:

    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    @NolteNC
    I see NeverTrump stopped lecturing everyone else about adultery long enough to express their outrage over Mark ‘The Appalachian Trail’ Sanford’s loss.
    12:25 PM · Jun 13, 2018

  763. Phil says:

    That is what the left is today, San Diego. If they perceive that they are losing the debate they simply want to shut the other side of the debate down. Actually, they now are at the point where they want to shut down the other side’s voices period. It has happened on college campuses all over America and the elites in all countries are adopting it as their strategy. Germany is no exception.

    Very dangerous.

  764. Tina says:

    Ah, more sources say.

    Is this Maggie hack?

  765. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    June 13, 2018 at 8:23 pm
    769. “– Are you really this stupid, or just playing to peanut gallery at HHR?”

    A fact is a fact Robbie. It seems you purpose of trolling the board is to insult and abuse the other posters. It is bizarre behavior.

    – If you’re suggesting CG and I are the same person, then your dunce cap is on too tight.

    And yes, I am going to mock people who make asinine arguments, especially when they directly contradict arguments they made when Obama was president. If you can’t handle that, then you need to find a digital safe space.

    I know you haven’t been around this board nearly as long as some of the others, but people have been mercilessly attacking each other here for a decade or more. Go back to the archives in 2008 and see what Jason fraud and the others wrote about me when I said said McCain was not going to win. That’s the way we roll here.

  766. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Robbie, often posters attack each other, but it is not a consistent trait, and most their posts tend to be civil. But, and this thread is an example, almost every post you made is venomous. I can respect almost all the posters on this board, whatever their positions, because they come off as regular people. You seem to be obsessed.

  767. Tina says:

    The Canadian socialist went to see mullah corker today.

    Please keep corker away from any deals.

  768. Chicon says:

    782 – venom is a defining feature of a leftist. They’re angry people who are difficult to have reasonable discussions with. Sad.

  769. NYCmike says:

    And Robbie is slobbering venom.

  770. NYCmike says:

    I will really miss Sarah. That sucks she is leaving.

  771. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Don’t know if Robbie will eventually response to my #782 post. When you don’t reveal a human side in your posting, its natural for people to wonder if your a troll. We once carried on a very civil conversation once with Obamacon as an example.

  772. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    784. “782 – venom is a defining feature of a leftist. They’re angry people who are difficult to have reasonable discussions with. Sad.”

    Yes, but Robbie doesn’t claim to be a leftist. According to him he is a loyal Republican.

    I question his association with CG because there have been times I have asked CG questions, and Robbie has responded.

  773. Tina says:

    It’s 2 jebots for one,

    Both make no sense

    Both love Hillary.

  774. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    790. Compare the sentence structure and use of phrases by Robbie and CG sometime. There are similarities.

  775. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Democrats, who want a carbon tax that will cause a major increase in gas prices, and who have enacted policies in California that have raised gas prices to some of the highest in the nation, are now blaming Trump for high gas prices.

    “Rising summer gas prices have caught the attention of drivers once again this year. They’ve caught the attention of politicians, too.

    Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., spoke earlier this month at a gas station in Manhattan and lamented, “Gas prices are going up and up and up,” describing the phenomenon as “something really bad for average families who are struggling to make ends meet.” Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., has gone so far as to call for the reinstatement of the oil export ban.

    Sen. Brian Schatz., D-Hawaii, went so far as to say that you can draw a “straight line” between the policies of President Trump and the prices we pay to fill up our gas tanks.

    It’s peculiar to see Schatz bemoan rising gas prices because one of his pet proposals would cause gas prices to rise by design. Schatz has long supported a carbon tax. His latest effort is the American Opportunity Carbon Fee Act of 2018, which he sponsored alongside Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I.”

  776. NYCmike says:

    If that is the attack that Democrats will use against Republicans, bring it on.

    Trump’s twitter, as well as Ted Cruz and some other Republicans, won’t even break a sweat swatting those feeble attempts away.

  777. Cash Cow TM says:

    “…So far it’s been all hat no cattle or, as Schumer said today – all cattle no hat. LOL”
    ———————-
    I heard that.

  778. Tina says:

    Sdc, I agree

  779. Chicon says:

    NYC – not that it matters, given that it was reported by CBS, but Sanders denies she has plans to go.

  780. Tina says:

    Look at their explanation of collusion regarding trump, jr.

    Responses are nearly identical, with the same verbiage.

  781. Tina says:

    Figured cbs was wrong,

    Really terrible news day.

    All the gas lighting over mentally ill.

    Maggie hacks fake news report.

    Now, this,

    The stories are attempts t bury the Ig report.

  782. Chicon says:

    NYC, are you going to make an appearance at Shinnecock for the US Open?

  783. Tina says:

    Sarah Sanders
    @PressSec
    Does @CBSNews know something I don’t about my plans and my future? I was at my daughter’s year-end Kindergarten event and they ran a story about my “plans to leave the WH” without even talking to me. I love my job and am honored to work for @POTUS
    5:51 PM · Jun 13, 2018

    Best press secretary Evah.

  784. Phil says:

    Sarah you’re lying! I know because CBS would never get it wrong and Robbie certainly wouldn’t ever quote a MSM story that wasn’t rock solid!

  785. Tina says:

    I knew right away that Dottie was again pushing FAKE NEWS.

    UNNAMED SOURCE,

    But, they could have just asked her.

  786. Tina says:

    Finally, note that Attorney General Sessions was counseled by Justice Department officials (none of them Trump appointees) to recuse himself under circumstances in which (a) there was no criminal investigation (which the regulations call for in recusal situations); (b) his contacts with Russian officials were not improper; (c) there was scant evidence of criminally actionable collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia; and (d) Sessions apparently had no involvement in approving FISA surveillance of Trump officials, and had less involvement than Rosenstein did in Comey’s firing.

    On what planet is it necessary for Jeff Sessions to recuse himself but perfectly appropriate for Rod Rosenstein to continue as acting attorney general for purposes of both the Mueller investigation and Congress’s probe of Justice Department investigative irregularities?

    Andrew McCarthy

  787. Mr.Vito says:

    “On what planet is it necessary …”

    One where Rosenstein has nudie pics of Sessions with Lindsey Graham?

  788. NYCmike says:

    “NYC, are you going to make an appearance at Shinnecock for the US Open?”

    -Actually, we were supposed to make some deliveries out there Friday, and reminded the guy that golf tournament was on, so he pushed to next week.

    I actually hit a golf ball onto Shinnecock……from a side road, about 25 years ago!

    Time flies!

  789. NYCmike says:

    Looking to go to Bethpage next year for the PGA.

  790. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    797. “Look at their explanation of collusion regarding trump, jr. Responses are nearly identical, with the same verbiage.”

    That happened several times. A problem with making a lot of posts in succession using two different names is you can get confused.

  791. NYCmike says:

    I don’t think they are the same people, but they have the same material. The only difference is Robbie laces his comments with vitriol and venom, while “CG” is marked by both sanctimony and egotistical superiority.

  792. dblaikie says:

    764 Wes, thanks for the post. Let me make a couple of points. First of all not all books in the Bible are equal. In Church history there was a great debate about whether the Old Testament should be included. The eventual answer was yes because it revealed the history, theology, and heritage out of which Jesus was born. In other words, without an understanding of the story of the struggle of Israel, you wouldn’t be able to grasp the life and work of Christ.

    Now the historic books in the Old Testament have both a theological and political purpose. Theologically it wanted to show the supremacy of Yahweh in contrast to the other Idols of the time. It shows the wonderful evolution of a people who come to a realization of the truth of Monotheism. Politically it was imperative to show and support the supremacy and legitimacy the family of David and Solomon. You see, David had a special relationship to God so he could touch the Ark. Normal folks could not. So the story you mention is not about redemption.

    You see, the Bible is the authority of my life. Because of that I take it seriously! It matters about the culture it arose out of. The literary genre is vital. Old Testament History is not a Gospel. Poetry and prose in the wisdom literature speaks truth in a different way. A letter from Paul to a church needs to be judged and viewed as a letter.

    Sorry for being so long winded.

  793. Mr.Vito says:

    After vote fails to condemn Hamas, Haley calls UN an unserious force for Middle East peace.

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/06/13/after-vote-fails-to-condemn-hamas-haley-calls-un-unserious-force-for-middle-east-peace.html

  794. lisab says:

    Robbie says:
    June 13, 2018 at 8:21 pm
    Ah, the pharisee argument by Dblaikie. I guess someone who believes Trump has become a good
    Since I attend Catholic Mass every week, I know full well the Bible is full of black and white. Are the Ten Commandments black and white or are they littered with shades of gray? What about the Beatitudes? Are they littered with shades of gray.
    ———————————————

    ah … a catholic … then you are familiar with:

    “Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.”

    because it does not seem like you are

  795. Mr.Vito says:

    Maybe he doesn’t love himself.

  796. lisab says:

    A little more levity:

    http://babylonbee.com/news/man-identifying-6-year-old-crushes-game-winning-homer-tee-ball-championship/
    ——————————-

    the problem is that some males that identify as females are winning hs sports events and getting scholarships to colleges

  797. Mr.Vito says:

    This won’t help Mueller’s sliding approval numbers.

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/mueller-appears-to-have-screwed-up-by-accidentally-exposing-names-in-manafort-case/

    “Although Mueller has been tight-lipped about evidence and witness identification up to this point, his team appears to have screwed up by outing journalists who “produced messages to the FBI” about Manafort’s alleged “coaching up” on lobbying practices.”

    …..

    “In a separate matter under the Mueller Probe umbrella, Mueller’s prosecutors notably argued Tuesday that evidence should not be revealed to Russian troll farm case defendant, Concord Management and Consulting LLC.

    Mueller filed a 14-page motion to keep evidence from the defendant. It makes one wonder why such care was taken there but not here.

    Previously in the D.C. case, Judge Amy Berman Jackson denied Manafort’s motion to redact search warrant affidavits because the affidavits in question were irrelevant or were based on “confidential sources.”

  798. lisab says:

    Maybe he doesn’t love himself.
    ———————————–

    ok … but i think there is still some stuff in there about kindness to others

  799. Mr.Vito says:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/31817/polyamory-canadian-judge-rules-child-has-three-paul-bois

    Polyamory: Canadian Judge Rules Child Has Three Parents

    “The best interests of the child”

  800. Mr.Vito says:

    Fox shut down the comments on this one.

    http://www.foxnews.com/lifestyle/2018/06/13/target-removing-baby-daddy-fathers-day-cards-after-shoppers-call-them-insult.html

    Target removing ‘Baby Daddy’ Father’s Day cards after shoppers call them ‘an insult’

  801. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    It appears that 2018 will be a tough year for Republicans throughout Pennsylvania if this F&M Poll is accurate. In the Senate race, Barletta(R) is down 17 and Wagner(R) is down 14 in the Governor’s race.

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/pa-franklin-marshall-poll-trump-tom-wolf-scott-wagner-bob-casey-lou-bareltta-20180613.html

  802. Redmen4ever says:

    Thanks Sheeple.

    Here’s an alternate link to the F&M poll.

    https://www.fandm.edu/uploads/files/93840024988851901-f-m-poll-release-june-2018.pdf

    This poll works of lists of registered voters. Its resultant sample has the same partisan breakout as do the official voter registration rolls of the state. Together with the recent Suffolk and Q polls of Ohio, this indicates Republicans have their work cut out for them in the north. In this case, in the Gov. and Sen. race, and also in the Cong. races. (The two polls of Ohio don’t appear to have asked the general Congressional ballot question.)

    Even if we don’t have the best Senate pick-up opportunities in these states, we have quite a few vulnerable Congressmen.

  803. DW says:

    Updated Dashboard:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
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    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
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    CO_03 R | 149 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.6 —
    NY_23 R | 150 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.6 —
    OK_05 R | 151 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.6 —
    SC_01 R | 152 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.6 —
    WA_03 R | 153 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.6 —
    IN_09 R | 154 | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.6 —
    TX_31 R | 155 | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.6 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    NC_02 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    WI_06 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    KY_06 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 204 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    TX_32 R | 205 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 2 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 43/33
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R)
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 —
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    CA_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    MN_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    IA_02 D | 175 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.6 —
    OR_05 D | 174 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.6 —
    NY_03 D | 173 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.6 —

    *indicates open seat

  804. mnw says:

    DW

    Your works invaluable. Thanks once again.

    A suggestion: maybe put the NEW polls (i.e., not previously on dashboard) in bold? Just a thought.

  805. DW says:

    825 – excellent idea

  806. mnw says:

    sb “work’s”

    I thought PDT was rallying in St. Paul, MN last night, but I must’ve had the date wrong. Saw nothing about it.

  807. DW says:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    NC_02 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    WI_06 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    KY_06 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 204 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    TX_32 R | 205 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 2 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 43/33
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R)
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 —
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    CA_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    MN_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  808. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mwn
    Will there be some SCOTUS action today?
    The cases that intrigue me are:
    1- Janus Union Case
    2- Travel Ban
    3- Gerrymander

  809. DW says:

    Maybe I should highlight the recent poll or change rather than bold:

    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)

    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss |Ln D | -0.4 —

  810. DW says:

    whoops..that didn’t work.
    Maybe I should stick with bold, or maybe bold/italic.

  811. Tgca says:

    San Francisco elects 1st AA woman mayor to fill the seat of the recently deceased mayor. I don’t know who she is but she beat Mark Leno, an ultra gay liberal who’s been in City and State politics like 20 years or so. I never liked him and thought he was too left. The new mayor grew up poor and raised by her mother in Western Addition area of the city, a traditional poorer area in the 70s thru 90s until revitalization about 15 years ago.

    Some claim she is too business friendly. OMG! How horrific to liaison the community to its local businesses. I guess we’ll see how she governs but I could not ever imagine voting for someone like Mark Leno. To me, he makes Pelosi look like a moderate Republican…but still probably a NeverTrumper.

    It’s also interesting as AA she overcame the other cultural influences in the city since San Francisco has a small AA population that was predominantly segregated into certain areas, at least in the time I lived there.

  812. DW says:

    One change on the senate dashboard:

    Paladin – 2018 Senate Dashboard
    ———————————————————–
    ST | Cnt | Cook |Gonz | Saba | NYT | Fox | CNN | RCP | Score
    ———————————————————–
    NE | 46 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4
    MS | 47 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5
    TX | 48 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.4
    TN | 49 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1
    —-Democrats need ALL the below for control—-
    MO | 51 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    IN | 50 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    FL | 49 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    WV | 48 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    ND | 47 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    AZ | 46 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    NV | 45 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.2
    MT | 44 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8
    OH | 43 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.2
    WI | 42 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.7
    MN | 41 | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.7
    PA | 40 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4
    MI | 39 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.2
    NJ | 38 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -4.5
    VA | 37 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.1
    ME | 36 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4

  813. DW says:

    and just as soon as I post that update…Sabato jumps in to change OH senate too….

    Paladin – 2018 Senate Dashboard
    ———————————————————–
    ST | Cnt | Cook |Gonz | Saba | NYT | Fox | CNN | RCP | Score
    ———————————————————–
    NE | 46 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4
    MS | 47 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5
    TX | 48 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.4
    TN | 49 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1
    —-Democrats need ALL the below for control—-
    MO | 51 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    IN | 50 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    FL | 49 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    WV | 48 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    ND | 47 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    AZ | 46 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0
    NV | 45 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.2
    MT | 44 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8
    OH | 43 | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.5
    WI | 42 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.7
    MN | 41 | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.7
    PA | 40 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4
    MI | 39 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.2
    NJ | 38 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -4.5
    VA | 37 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.1
    ME | 36 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4

  814. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    On a scale of 1-10 with 1 being freezing and 10 scorching hot, how cold/hot will the IG Report be?

    My prediction- 6.5

  815. DW says:

    And Sabato downgraded SC_01 just because the incumbent lost. Maybe he should have done a background check on the incumbent.

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
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    *indicates open seat

  816. Robbie says:

    So I’m sure all those who squealed like stuck pigs when Obama bowed to the Saudi king are going to have the same reaction to Trump saluting a North Korean general.

  817. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #837
    Robbie and the half truth. It was an awkward encounter where Trump attempted to shake the General’s hand. The General seemed confused so POTUS gave him a salute. The General then shook Trump’s hand.
    Obama’s submissiveness to monarchs and dictators was willful and planned.
    Robbie, it is no surprise to anyone here, but you are being deceitful on this one and your credibility dropped a notch.
    What is your girlfriend,M. Haggerman, up to these days?!

  818. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag can now hope Salutegate will overturn the results of the election.

    This is how it will work.

    Trump will be impeached. Then the MSM cheered on by Amoral Scumbag will find some fake reason to impeach Pence.

    Then Ryan will appoint Jeb as VP and after another fake reason will be impeached too.

    Jeb will be President.

    The next day Amoral Scumbag will be here whining about how the MSM is unfair to Jeb.

  819. Tina says:

    Fuhrer Mulehead will soon have more problems.

  820. jason says:

    I see Amoral Scumbag was quicker than maggots on roadkill to post the fake news on Sarah Sanders.

    It must really suck to be that much of a pathetic loser.

  821. Tina says:

    The Drats want to impeach him for meeting with nk.

    I bet they also want an investigation into collusion with nk.

    The outcome of the meeting is not known at this time, it appears that we gave up very little to get what we got.

  822. Tina says:

    There is and was no basis under doj guidelines for sessions to have recused himself.

    He needs to unrecoverable himself since e threats made by swampstein need to be looked at. Swampstein cannot head the investigation by fuhrer Mulehead, when he is also a witness.

  823. Tina says:

    The Jebot posted two fake news stories yesterday.

    Cohen flipped story.

    Sarah Sanders leaving,

  824. GPO says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:

    June 14, 2018 at 9:14 am

    mwn
    Will there be some SCOTUS action today?
    The cases that intrigue me are:
    1- Janus Union Case
    2- Travel Ban
    3- Gerrymander

    Apparently none of these will be today

    2 nondescript cases today

  825. DW says:

    jason, don’t forget that Blankenship ‘nearly won’ WV due to 2 fake polls.

    Just like Jeb nearly won the 2016 GOP nomination by amassing the huge pool of 4 delegates.

  826. mnw says:

    Sheep & GPO

    I’m flattered you would ask, but I have no idea. As usual, they’ve saved the headline cases for last.

    RAS 49/49 again 2day.

  827. Robbie says:

    Kyle Cheney
    ?
    Verified account

    @kyledcheney
    6m
    6 minutes ago

    More
    Leaked IG report findings obtained by Bloomberg say here’s no evidence political bias affected any aspect of the Clinton probe, despite some questionable conduct. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-14/comey-broke-from-fbi-procedures-in-clinton-probe-watchdog-finds?utm_content=politics&utm_campaign=socialflow-organic&cmpid%3D=socialflow-twitter-politics&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

  828. Robbie says:

    I knew Jason fraud would immediately defend glorious dear leader Trump for his salute of a North Korean general.

    Of course he’ll skip right over Trump’s tweet from 2012 where he bashed Obama for bowing to the Saudi king.

    Fraud’s gotta fraud.

  829. Paul says:

    At least Trump didn’t salute North Korean military officers during the summit. Oh wait.
    http://thehill.com/policy/international/392241-north-korea-state-tv-airs-footage-of-trump-saluting-north-korean

  830. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    June 14, 2018 at 10:27 am
    jason, don’t forget that Blankenship ‘nearly won’ WV due to 2 fake polls.
    Just like Jeb nearly won the 2016 GOP nomination by amassing the huge pool of 4 delegates.

    – I miss the days in 2016 when you used to post in an alternative reality about how Rubio would be doing if he was the nominee.

  831. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    June 14, 2018 at 10:00 am
    #837
    Robbie and the half truth. It was an awkward encounter where Trump attempted to shake the General’s hand. The General seemed confused so POTUS gave him a salute. The General then shook Trump’s hand.

    – I don’t think any word in the English language better describes glorious dear leader Trump than confused.

  832. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 14, 2018 at 10:12 am
    The Jebot posted two fake news stories yesterday.
    Cohen flipped story.
    Sarah Sanders leaving,

    – Remember when Tinfoil said there was no way Michael Flynn would flip and plead guilty? I do.

    Remember when Tinfoil said the Don Jr. emails about his Trump Tower meeting with Russians didn’t exist just 10 hours before Don Jr. released his emails about the Trump Tower meeting with Russians. I do.

    The surest way to know Governor Cornpone’s daughter is lying is her lips are moving. And when she’s gone by the end of the year, which the story said, Tinfoil will once again be wrong.

  833. Robbie says:

    Someone better check on Tinfoil. Another conspiracy theory of hers has been taken out back and shot.

    Steven Dennis
    @StevenTDennis

    IG: Peter Strzok & Lisa Page exchanged anti-Trump texts, BUT “we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence that improper considerations, including political bias, directly affected the specific investigative actions we reviewed”

  834. Tina says:

    ““While we did not find that these decisions were the result of political bias on Comey’s part, we nevertheless concluded that by departing so clearly and dramatically from FBI and department norms, the decisions negatively impacted the perception of the FBI and the department as fair administrators of justice,” Inspector General Michael Horowitz said in the report’s conclusions, which were obtained Thursday by Bloomberg News.”

    Poor comedy, bad enough, but did they figure out why he deviated?

  835. Bitterlaw says:

    I wish Trump had said GFY to Kim when they met. He did not so we have to hope something good comes out of the summit.

  836. Robbie says:

    New York Attorney General
    @NewYorkStateAG

    Our investigation found that the Trump Foundation raised in excess of $2.8 million in a manner designed to influence the 2016 presidential election at the direction and under the control of senior leadership of the Trump presidential campaign.

  837. Tina says:

    The Jebot is awfully nervous touting fake news again.

  838. Robbie says:

    Just a disaster for Tinfoil and her favs Sara Carter and Sean Hannity.

    Kyle Cheney
    @kyledcheney

    IG FALLOUT: Clearest sign that Trump allies didn’t get what they wanted out of the IG report: his top GOP allies are arguing that the report may have been watered down during the review process

  839. Tina says:

    It was easier under mute 43

    Poorly poot at the ranch. I looked into his eyes, while I drove him around with my truck.

    Mute holding the hand of the Saudi King.

  840. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 14, 2018 at 10:56 am
    The Jebot is awfully nervous touting fake news again.

    – Bless your heart.

  841. Tina says:

    I rather wait to read the 500 page report myself, which only covers Hilary’s email.

  842. Tina says:

    Has Maggie hack reported why comedy deviated?

  843. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:05 am
    Has Maggie hack reported why comedy deviated?

    – Has Sara Carter told you why the report was a dud?

  844. Waingro says:

    uh oh.

    Anna Massoglia
    ?Verified account @annalecta
    16m16 minutes ago

    JUST IN: NY attorney general files lawsuit against Trump Foundation, alleging the charity was “little more than a checkbook for payments from Mr. Trump or his businesses to nonprofits”—potentially in violation of tax, state & federal campaign finance law http://wapo.st/2HP0P8N
    David Fahrenthold
    2 replies 43 retweets 37 likes

    Anna Massoglia
    ?Verified account @annalecta

    NY Attorney General investigation: Trump Foundation raised $2.8M+ “to influence the 2016 presidential election at the direction & of campaign staff—including evidence of emails from Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski—allegedly in violation of federal campaign finance law.

  845. jason says:

    “I knew Jason fraud would immediately defend glorious dear leader Trump for his salute of a North Korean general.

    Of course he’ll skip right over Trump’s tweet from 2012 where he bashed Obama for bowing to the Saudi king.”

    Wow, amoral scumbag is really living up to his name

    Can we add ignorant to scumbag?

    Obama went around for 8 years denigrating his own country and apologizing for America.

    Even a lying scumbag should be able to admit, whether you like Trump or not, one thing he DOES
    is stand up for American.

    Military personnel salute each other no matter where they are from. As commander in chief Trump regularly salutes military personnel from generals to privates, so there is nothing “subservient” if he saluted a North Korean general.

  846. Tina says:

    “Several FBI employees Who played critical roles in the investigation sent political messages,” IG report says.

    Hatch act

  847. Tina says:

    The Jebot proclaims the report is a dud.

    He has read all 500 pages.

  848. Tina says:

    The Jebot also proclaimed the Ig report on McCabe was out weeks before it came out

  849. Waingro says:

    Sam Stein
    ?Verified account @samstein
    2m2 minutes ago

    Donald Trump personally directed his Foundation funds to be used to settle a lawsuit related to Mar A Lago. Here is the receipt

    https://twitter.com/samstein/status/1007278570669072384

  850. Tina says:

    Jebot, if you have the 500 page report that you read, can you link to it?

  851. Cash Cow TM says:

    Headline:

    “Comey deviated from FBI norms”

    So…Comey is a deviant….

  852. jason says:

    Our investigation found that the Trump Foundation raised in excess of $2.8 million in a manner designed to influence the 2016 presidential election at the direction and under the control of senior leadership of the Trump presidential campaign.”

    Wow….2.8 million? LOL

    That is peanuts compared to what the Clinton Foundation shook down donors for her campaign…

  853. Waingro says:

    A “bad look” for the FBI would be an understatement.

    Jennifer Jacobs
    ?Verified account @JenniferJJacobs
    Replying to @StevenTDennis

    “Several FBI employees Who played critical roles in the investigation sent political messages,” IG report says.

    It cites Lisa Page text to Peter Strzok: “(Trump’s) not ever going to become president, right? Right?!”

    Strzok: “No. No he’s not. We’ll stop it.”

  854. Tina says:

    Again, the oil only deals with Hillary email scandal.

    It does not deal with fish abuses.

  855. Waingro says:

    #873, very true, jason, although I’m not sure whataboutism will work as an affirmative defense in court. The Mar a Largo receipt directly from Trump (although query whether that was stamped for him) is not good.

    I doubt this does anything to him politically though. It is what it is.

    At the same time, the NY AG clearly released this to jump all over the IG report, which, at first glance, definitely does not make the FBI look at ALL.

  856. Tina says:

    So, the president returned a salute and he deserves to be impeached.

    What does military tradition or courtesies state?

  857. CG says:

    If “salutegate” is a thing, it shouldn’t be.

    I think even the smart and honorable Presidents might have out of reflex made that mistake if they were saluted first by someone in uniform.

    That’s like literally the least troubling thing that happened at the meeting. And yes, partisans overreacted to Obama doing things too.

  858. Robbie says:

    Jim Roberts
    @nycjim

    MORE: NY AG said Trump, Ivanka, Don Jr and Eric engaged in “persistently illegal conduct” and repeatedly misused the president’s personal charity to benefit his campaign. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-files-suit-against-president-trump-alleging-his-charity-engaged-in-illegal-conduct/2018/06/14/c3cbf71e-6fc9-11e8-bd50-b80389a4e569_story.html?utm_term=.04c90d2389c7

  859. Tina says:

    Tweets
    Tweets & replies
    Media
    Likes
    Donald J. Trump’s Tweets
    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    12m
    ….Schneiderman, who ran the Clinton campaign in New York, never had the guts to bring this ridiculous case, which lingered in their office for almost 2 years. Now he resigned his office in disgrace, and his disciples brought it when we would not settle.
    2.1K
    2.4K
    8.8K
    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    13m
    The sleazy New York Democrats, and their now disgraced (and run out of town) A.G. Eric Schneiderman, are doing everything they can to sue me on a foundation that took in $18,800,000 and gave out to charity more money than it took in, $19,200,000. I won’t settle this case!…

  860. Tina says:

    Military tradition do permit one to salute somebody who,salutes you. It is a military courtesy,

  861. Tina says:

    I would be more concerned with trump meeting pointy poot at his ranch.

  862. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:18 am
    If “salutegate” is a thing, it shouldn’t be.

    – I was pointing out the rank hypocrisy shown by those who squealed like stuck pigs when Obama bowed to the Saudi king and their silence over this.

  863. CG says:

    I believe it was a breach of protocol for him to salute a non-American military member, but as I said, it can be considered an honest mistake and not a big deal.

  864. Tina says:

    Pretty much the ny at deflecting from the report.

  865. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:12 am
    Our investigation found that the Trump Foundation raised in excess of $2.8 million in a manner designed to influence the 2016 presidential election at the direction and under the control of senior leadership of the Trump presidential campaign.”
    Wow….2.8 million? LOL
    That is peanuts compared to what the Clinton Foundation shook down donors for her campaign…

    – So under the Jason fraud standard, illegality is ok so long as it’s not as much as what Clinton may have done.

    Whataboutism on full display.

  866. Tina says:

    I believe…

    Link please to the breach of protocol.

  867. Mr.Vito says:

    So on the day of a report where Hillary got special treatment from the FBI, the NYAG is going to go after the Trump Foundation, but not the clearly sleazy Clinton Foundation. Beautiful look.

  868. CG says:

    Sure, they are hypocrites, but they have already come to terms with that.

    Making the salute thing a story though only detracts from the ugly aspects of what could be the ramifications of Trump failing in Singapore.

  869. CG says:

    Technically, a President isn’t even s upposed to return an American military salute, but Reagan started it and all have done it since.

    I do not think that any President has ever deliberately saluted a non-American military member and I doubt Trump will have started a new trend.

  870. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 14, 2018 at 11:26 am
    Pretty much the ny at deflecting from the report.

    – LOL!

    Your report is just as big of a dud the Nunes memo was. That’s why Republicans already put out a statement saying it was watered down.

  871. Tina says:

    @JenniferJJacobs
    ·
    34m
    IG found a “troubling lack of any direct, substantive communication” between Comey and AG Lynch ahead of July press conference and Comey’s October letter to Congress.

    Right, why would he talk to at lynch.

  872. CG says:

    A. It was probably well timed by the NY AG
    B. That’s politics

  873. Tina says:

    The president is the commander in chief. If saluted, he can salute back.

  874. CG says:

    He shouldn’t have talked to Lynch if he believed she was interested in helping the Clintons politically.

  875. CG says:

    What about one finger salutes?

  876. Mr.Vito says:

    Flashback:

    “A Republican senator says edits to a draft FBI statement on the Hillary Clinton email investigation appear to have watered down the significance of the bureau’s findings.”

    n a letter to the FBI, Johnson said edits to Comey’s original remarks “appear to change the tone and substance” in ways that lessen the seriousness of the case.

    Johnson highlights the changing of the wording from “grossly negligent” to “extremely careless.”

  877. Tina says:

    JW released huge DOJ records showing fired FBI Director James Comey was advised by FBI officials in May 2017 to consult w/ Robert Mueller prior to testifying w/ any congressional committees related to Russian meddling in 2016 & his firing as FBI Director.

    Rush roh

    Sessions get back in the game and shut this sheot down.

  878. Robbie says:

    Totally normal. Trump’s crush on Putin is bizarre.

    Kenneth P. Vogel
    @kenvogel

    Wow: TRUMP in a private conversation with G7 leaders essentially parroted PUTIN’s line on Crimea: that it is Russian because everyone who lives there speaks Russian.

  879. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    ·
    37m
    From colleague Catherine Herridge. From Hse memo in preparation for IG rpt: Mr. Comey, as the FBI Director, was the chief investigator, not the prosecutor. It was not up to him to determine what a “reasonable prosecutor” would do with the evidence the FBI had collected.

    Hmm, sees to fall in line with sessions and swampsteins letter for firing comedy.

  880. Tina says:

    Looks like Fuhrer mule heads obstruction for firing comedy is now deader than dead.

    Look for unweissman to do something stupid.

  881. Tgca says:

    Any validation of criticism of Comey by IG hurts Comey’s credibility. Remember, this investigation is about what happened during the Clinton investigation and not about events once Trump became POTUS. Those are other investigations in the works by the IG.

    In essence,as being reported, it validates the memo by Comey’s superiors at DOJ for terminating him. If these reports on what the IG report states are true, in stating that his actions hurt the reputation of the FBI, and he overstepped his authority without cause, it basically justifies his termination, as was outlined in the original termination letter. It does not matter what folks said later on what the real reasons may or may not have been. If the IG report supports the original memo, Comey’s credibility is shot on this matter. Case closed.

    I have never been one to think that Comey was personally taking direction from others to clear Clinton. However, knowing politics, I suspect Comey treated her differently then he would others normally giving this situation of who she was. That is very hard to prove as political bias because clearly nobody is going to put that in writing and treating someone with kid gloves may be less about politics and more about fear of perception of your work.

  882. CG says:

    On more than one occasion, Trump said he fired Comey over Russia.

    And the “letter” made it appear that Comey was wrong for hurting Hillary, which is different from what you folks are trying to say today.

  883. CG says:

    So, which is it, was Comey unfair for his press conference saying the investigation was re-opened, thus hurting Hillary’s chances against Trump, which is laughable that Trump would be upset over or now, that Trump is mad that Comey did not prosecute the person he defeated?

    It can’t be both.

  884. Mr.Vito says:

    “It can’t be both.”

    Why not? It is a pattern of poor performance.

  885. Tina says:

    Nope, he did not say that. Link yourself to the full nbc transcript.

    The problem for comedy is that he and McCabe hid Hillary stuff for over a month. It broke because the nod threatened to go public with wieners laptop containing Hillary emails.

  886. CG says:

    I trust Mueller to make the right determination on why Comey was fired and all the rest regarding Russia’s attempts (which are ongoing) to illegally interfere in our elections.

    Whether or not the American people wind up caring about any of this is another matter.

  887. Tina says:

    Andrew McCarthy has also directed the nbc transcript,my the claims that he fired comedy over Russia is a lie,

    Marlins from the hill its.

  888. CG says:

    It can be a “pattern of poor performance” but that does not explain what was said on the memo and what the talking points are now and how they are not consistent.

    It also does not change the fact that Trump said openly that regardless of the memo, he decided to fire Comey over Russia to relieve pressure on himself.

  889. Tgca says:

    Some Libs will spin this as an exoneration that Comey was not biased or taking direction from the Obama team while other Libs will spin it as evidence that Comey did Clinton wrong in his actions.

    Conservatives will spin this as evidence Comey was unethical and beholden to the Dems in hope of keeping his job or getting a promotion at some point.

    I think there is some validity in both but the real issue was whether he conducted the investigation as he should of under rules and procedures embedded in the law, or did he, for whatever reason, try to become investigator, judge, and jury, the latter two not within his responsibilities.

    The real issue here for me, is WHY Comey did what he did? If the IG report can’t answer those questions than we can all agree his actions were wrong and his termination was justified but we don’t know WHY so folks will make of it what they will.

  890. CG says:

    I will say that Comey made mistakes but his termination, while technically legal, would not have been appropriate by either Trump or Clinton, because of the conflicts of interest both had.

    Had Hillary won, and had she fired him for these same reasons, Republicans would absolutely be talking impeachment.

  891. Tina says:

    The firing comedy over Russia is not true.

    Please quit posting that sheot here,

    Go to the nbc transcript

  892. CG says:

    The transcript of the Lester Holt interview speaks for itself as do the transcripts of what Trump told the Russians in the Oval Office.

  893. Mr.Vito says:

    “…and what the talking points are now ”

    What are the inconsistent talking points now? The things I’ve read from both sides are that Comey botched the entire investigation, with emphasis being placed on whatever portion is politically convenient for them. I think Comey also botched the dossier, and was reprehensible for telling Trump repeatedly he was not under investigation and allowing it to appear he was through leaks.

    Dude deserved to be fired for all the reasons given.

  894. Tina says:

    Firing comedy was legal with or without any reason,

    However, in this case, the Ig, swampstein, sessions, and most importantly perhaps, the president determined that he deviated.

  895. CG says:

    It has also been widely reported that Mueller has a letter in his possession that Trump had Stephen Miller draft in which Trump said he fired Comey because Comey would not clear him on Russia. (We know that Comey has said that Trump asked him to clear him on Russia several times.)

    So, when Mueller releases his report, the letter should be a part of it. Time will tell.

  896. Tina says:

    Comedy botched the investigation by

    Hiding the emails from wieners laptop.

    Coming to the conclusion that Hillary was innocent months before the investigation was completed.

    Not referring the matter to the doj to make the determination to charge Hillary. He made it.

    Those are all fire able offenses.

    I also note that comedy failed to inform congress about monitoring president trump aka surveillance.

  897. Mr.Vito says:

    “…would not have been appropriate by either Trump or Clinton, because of the conflicts of interest both had….”

    So an incompetent FBI boss can ensure his job by opening investigations into the people who can fire him. Brilliant.

  898. Tina says:

    The ifs reports just pits the final,nail iI to obstruction based on firing comedy,

  899. Paul says:

    So, Tina. Trump fired him because he was unfair to Clinton. Riiight.

  900. CG says:

    1. It would be laughable for Trump to suggest he felt Comey should be fired because he was too tough on Hillary.

    2. It would be completely an abuse of power for Trump to say that Comey should be fired because he wasn’t tough enough on Hillary.

    It can’t be both though.

    Whatever Trump thought about Comey and Hillary, all indications are that he was fired over Russia, and that is why Trump has the legal problems he has. On this, he should have listened to Bannon.

  901. Tina says:

    Also, by comedy refusing to clear trump, or att least state publicly that he was not under investigation, it is a form of bribery.

    I will hold something over your head.

    That is a fireball offense too,

  902. CG says:

    918. If there is evidence that the FBI Director did anything illegal, that is a different story of course, That is not related to this circumstance.

    Trump (and Hillary) both had the legal right to fire Comey, but doing so is worthy of an investigation especially given the reasons Trump gave for the firing, and the instances of potential obstruction that Comey has provided (and which he should have been more proactive against at the time)

  903. Tina says:

    The more pressing matter is way was the motivation for the deviation,

    What made comedy do it, if it was not political bias.

  904. Paul says:

    Pass the bong to Tina.

  905. Mr.Vito says:

    “It can’t be both though.”

    Of course it can be both. You are inserting “too tough” and “not tough enough” when simply not following procedure and law replaces both… because you need a strawman.

  906. Tgca says:

    CG

    Stop lying! Trump never said he fired Comey over Russia. That has been debunked over and over. Please watch the entire Holt interview and provide the part of the interview where he states that. He never said that. He was talking about a number of issues at once, and criticizing Comey for a number of things including the need for a Russia investigation and MSM tried to sell that as the real reason for the termination. Now if you believe that is the real reason, that is fine but Trump NEVER stated and he NEVER said the termination was because of the Russia investigation.

    Your suggestion then would mean that DOJ leaders falsified and conjured the termination recommendation which would open them both to collusion to obstruct Justice. I highly doubt they both did that.

  907. CG says:

    The “memo” seems to be nothing but a smokescreen when the other evidence is considered.

    And yes, it is a laughable smokescreen.

  908. Mr.Vito says:

    “If there is evidence that the FBI Director did anything illegal…”

    Since when is anyone required to do anything illegal to merit firing from their job for poor performance.

  909. CG says:

    There’s not one word in the Lester Holt interview where it is debuked. It is exactly what he said, and he said it even more explicitly in the Oval Office to the Russians.

  910. Tina says:

    The nbc transcript of the holt interview confirms that trump did not fire him over Russia.

    There was also no criminal investigation at the time. It was a counterintelligence investigation. The president cannot obstruct that type of investigation..

  911. CG says:

    When you have obvious conflicts, and you pretend to fire someone for “poor job performance” it is going to create a lot of questions.

    Mueller apparently has a letter from Trump that was going to initially use Russia as the public reason for firing Comey.

    Someone might have stopped the letter from being released at the time, but when Trump sat down with Lester Holt or met with the Russians in the Oval Office, he couldn’t help himself from being honest.

  912. Tina says:

    In fact, the problem with swampsteins charter of Mulehead, is that he states the investigation is a contiuation of the counterintelligence investigation.

    That investigation has its own problems with renegade agents, lies to the fish court, spies, etc.

  913. CG says:

    Additionally, Rudy Giuliani, whom the Trump fans here say is a legal superstsar said last month that Trump fired Comey over Russia.

  914. Tina says:

    Andrew McCarthy ripped apart the nbc lie in a recent article.

    Pretty clear that comedy was not fired for Russia.

    He was fired for the reasons stated by the Ig, sessions, and swampstein.

    Too bad, too sad.

  915. Tina says:

    The drat talking point is that trump fired comedy over Russia in that interview.

    That is not the case, per the transcript.

    Obstruction is deader than dead.

    President cannot obstruct a counterintelligence investigation.

    Ig, sessions, and swampstein confirm the firing was performance related.

  916. CG says:

    Even Vito is ignoring the others’ claims that Trump did not say this to Lester Holt or at other times.

    It clearly was said. Trump raised Russia with Holt as the reason. Not the other way around. He specifically said to the Russians in another instance that he fired Comey to take the “pressure” of the Russian allegations off him.

  917. Tgca says:

    916

    You lie again CG. Trump did not ask to be cleared of Russia investigation, he wanted Comey to state that he was not under investigation at the time, as Comey had notified him. Those are two very different things. One is asking to find you innocent. The other is asking that you remove the cloud of suspicion that MSM was pushing.

    He simply wanted Comey to state publicly what he stated privately, which Comey confirmed after being fired. Trump could have just come out and informed the public that Comey stated he was not u dear investigation but he withheld that for sometime.

    In fact, Comey testified he was not feeling pressure by Trump.

  918. CG says:

    Several examples given here. How has any of this been “debunked?”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/05/31/all-the-reasons-its-fair-to-assume-trump-fired-comey-because-of-the-russia-investigation/?utm_term=.66fa0e244087

    I’ll probably check back in a few hours. My “Siamese twin” will maybe take over first.

  919. Mr.Vito says:

    “When you have obvious conflicts, and you pretend to fire someone for “poor job performance” it is going to create a lot of questions.”

    You mean the conflicts manufactured by the guy who wanted to make sure he didn’t get fired? Convenient.

  920. Mr.Vito says:

    “My “Siamese twin””

    I don’t know why you would even want to let yourself be associated with that train wreck.

  921. Tgca says:

    930

    Please provide the link and transcript of that exact reference to firing Coney due to Russia investigation. I’ve actually watched the full interview and as others have pointed out, he never said any such thing and the MSM was stringing words and sentences together to reach that conclusion. He was jumping all over the place in the discussion and criticizing Comey for many things including the handling of the various investigations but he never concluded the firing was because of the Russia investigation.

    Again you lie!

  922. Mr.Vito says:

    “Even Vito is ignoring the others’ claims that Trump did not say this to Lester Holt or at other times.”

    I am ignoring both of your claims. Doesn’t seem relevant.

  923. CG says:

    The full interview is embedded in the story I linked.

    Trump brought up Russia, unprompted, on his own, to Holt. As I have also said, the interview is not even the most explicit instance of his citing Russia for the reason, but in the interview, he obviously, irrefutably referenced Russia, unprompted, as the reason.

    No amount of Jedi Mind Tricks can change that.

  924. Tina says:

    Time for Jebot 2 to tag in Jebot 1.

  925. Paul says:

    The site was pretty boring and pointless without Robbie being around. Dave should send him something for keeping HHR interesting.

  926. Mr.Vito says:

    Why should I care about some off the cuff remarks instead of the facts on the ground? Comey told Trump he was not under investigation… leak after leak made it look like he was and he did nothing… he couldn’t or wouldn’t stop the leaks and he wouldn’t tell the truth.

    He is at best an incompetent nincompoop that deserved to be fired over the Russia matter alone.

  927. Tina says:

    The transcript does not make the claim,

    Jebot lies.

  928. Mr.Vito says:

    The funny thing is anyone of any political stripe had reasons to fire Comey for incompetence…

    that is quite a feat.

  929. Tina says:

    Evidentlym the Pete the cheat text about stopping trump cited in the Ig report was never turned over to congress.

  930. Cash Cow TM says:

    President Trump Job Approval

    Rasmussen Reports

    Approve 49, Disapprove 49

  931. Tina says:

    An imaginary fake letter that Fuhrer Mulehead has is the basis for obstruction.

    Jebot

  932. Mr.Vito says:

    “Insurance policy”

    Well… hem… haw…

    “We will stop Trump”

    Curious to see how they spin that one…

  933. Mr.Vito says:

    “An imaginary fake letter that Fuhrer Mulehead has is the basis for obstruction.”

    Maybe the company Mueller indicted will get to see the evidence against them someday, too…

  934. Tgca says:

    939

    939 CG

    Now you’re linking to a WP article for the reasons to ASSUME why Trump fired Comey. You’ve gone from Trump stated he fired Comey in that interview because of the Russia investigation to why to assume Trump fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. Which one is it? Did he say the words or do we assume that he fired Comey from various actions? I am not a lawyer but I would love to see opposing counsel have you on the stand and make minced meat of what you mean. He said it or he didn’t or is it you’re drawing conclusions and assuming. Geez!

    Note the article summarizes the one sentence where he mentions the Russia investigation but then conveniently omits the subsequent sentences where he talks about wanting a proper and thorough Russia investigation, and knowing that his firing Comey might confuse people and lengthen the investigation. This does not sound like evidence to shut down an investigation.

  935. Tina says:

    The missing Pete the cheat text about stopping trump was purposefully hidden from Congress.

  936. lisab says:

    Military personnel salute each other no matter where they are from. As commander in chief Trump regularly salutes military personnel from generals to privates, so there is nothing “subservient” if he saluted a North Korean general.
    ———————————

    actually a salute, apart from a show of respect, comes from the the idea of two potential combatants showing they are not holding a weapon … thus the open hand

    “Trump starts to shake hands with those in the room. Upon encountering North Korean Gen. No Kwang Chol, who was in full uniform, Trump first extends his hand, to which the general responds with a salute. Trump then salutes back, extends his hand again and the two men shake hands.”

    was he not supposed to return a salute?

  937. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump got saluted by the North Korean general? and he is still alive?

  938. DW says:

    BOOM

    Monmouth Trump Approval:

    45% approve
    46% disapprove

    Trolls hardest hit.

  939. lisab says:

    “FOREIGN ACTORS OBTAINED ACCESS TO HRC EMAILS – including classified secrets – ALSO penetrated Clinton staffer email accounts”

    foreign actors?

    like keira knightly?

  940. Mr.Vito says:

    960 Well, originally it said… “we assess it is reasonably likely that hostile actors gained access to Secretary Clinton’s private email account”

    but Strzok said “sophisticated foreign actors” would be better…

    and that “foreign actors” were known to have accessed them

    …. maybe hostile actors meant Robert Deniro

  941. Tina says:

    Mark Meadows
    @RepMarkMeadows
    ·
    26m
    Lisa Page text to Peter Strzok: “(Trump’s) not ever going to become president, right? Right?!”

    Strzok reply: “No. No he’s not. We’ll stop it.”

    This Peter Strzok text about “stopping” Donald Trump was hidden from Congressional investigators. We never had it. Absolutely unreal.

  942. Tina says:

    The rooster is tweeting away.

    Blasts comedy.

    Says agents acted political, i.e. Pete the cheat.

    He is too up and down for me. Not sure what he is angling at now.

  943. Mr.Vito says:

    963 Bait and switch job on the media.

  944. Tina says:

    Hopefully so, vito

  945. Mr.Vito says:

    Dershowitz:

    “The director of the American Civil Liberties Union has now acknowledged what should have been obvious to everybody over the past several years: The ACLU is no longer a neutral defender of everyone’s civil liberties. It has morphed into a hyper-partisan, hard-left political advocacy group.”

    http://thehill.com/opinion/civil-rights/391682-the-final-nail-in-the-aclus-coffin

  946. Tina says:

    ed to former Secretary Clinton and other potential subjects and targets was starkly different from the FBI’s investigation into Trump campaign officials.

    The rooster

  947. Tina says:

    If standard a was given to Hillary, and standard b to trump, it must be due to politics,

    Even the rooster has finally concluded that.

  948. Tina says:

    Even Fake Flapper, the wannabe press secretary for president Hillary, indicates that Petes we will stop trump text is shocking.

  949. mnw says:

    Tina

    RE: IG report

    When Sadat was assassinated, the govt put out a statement stating that “the president was attacked moments ago and shot in the leg.” That was absolutely true. He also had most of his head blown off. & died instantly.

    That’s probably how the msm is trying to sell the IG report.

  950. Tina says:

    Well the 568 page report is out.

    Happy reading,

    I will,be gone for a bit reading this, yes page to page.

  951. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/PoliticalShort/status/1007327957252300800/photo/1

    Mulehead has a problem regarding the pleas of papodope and Flynn.

  952. jason says:

    There is good news and bad news for Tiger at the US OPEN…

    The good news is he is at +4, not a bad score today.

    The bad news is only played 2 holes.

  953. jason says:

    Russia 5 Saudi Arabia 0

    Is there more important news?

  954. Tgca says:

    944 CG

    To rebut the assumptions you are making, let’s break down the 13 minute interview you link in broad discussion categories and see the exact point Trump supposedly admits he fired Comey because of Russia which actually does not exist in this 13 minute video.

    If you listen to the entire interview, Trump 1st brought Russia up at 1:07 thru 1:12 with regard to Comey to start making a point that people will read into why he is firing Comey, which is what the 1st minute was about, why Comey was fired. He then goes off on some tangents about Russia investigation a hoax by the Dems but then gets back to that point at 1:58 thru 2:20 of how it will confuse people why he is firing Comey. Those 5 seconds starting at 1:07 is what the anti-Trump folks are latching on as the reason he fired Comey though he never said anything about the reason for firing Comey was because of Russia. It is quite clear from his statements, if you extract out the 46 sec discussion where he is calling this a hoax by the Dems and why they lost the election in 1:12 to 1:58 that he goes back to his statement started at 1:07 that people will THINK he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation.

    From 2:20 thru 3:30 he then goes to discuss why he wants a proper investigation and how his firing Comey will probably lengthen the investigation. His point was that by firing Comey, folks will read into its because of Russia which was the point he started to make at 1:07.

    Between 3:30 and 4:00 he talks about he knows he is not personally under investigation though he acknowledges the campaign is being looked at for that but not him so he is not personally worried.

    At 4:00 thru 4:12 he states he did not ask anyone to drop the investigation, he wants an investigation, and is not aware of anyone trying to stop the investigation.

    From 4:13 to 4:34 he discusses wanting a strong thorough investigation into whether Russia intervened in the election.

    At 4:35 thru 4:50 he discusses how Comey is the wrong guy for the FBI because he is a showboater and instead he wants a good FBI director to do a good job and not showboat.

    From 4:50 to 5:55 they generally discuss the various Russian investigations and his tweets on it being a hoax but there are no definitive statements about Comey or the investigation.

    At 5:55 thru 6:05 he directly answers the questions about his tweets on Russia that it is not sending the message to lay off the investigation.

    At 6:05 to 10:05 they discuss various issues relating to Flynn, how Comey found out he was fired, etc but nothing specific about Russia investigations, or why he fired Comey.

    At 10:05 thru 11:25 he discusses his past dealings in Russia and how he has no investments there, loans, or properties, and how this has all been certified to the Senate investigation committee, and other than a home he sold years ago to a Russian and hosting the Miss America pageant in Moscow one year, no financial connections.

    At 11:25 to the end they discuss the timing of him firing Comey the day before the Russian ambassador visit to the WH and how the visit was planned in advance and was a public meeting and had nothing to do with Comey. He goes on to talk how he meets with many folks to look at best interest of US and that this meeting was pre-arranged based on Putin request in a phone discussion they had. He talked about how that meeting discussed Syria, Ukraine and other important issues.

    That’s the e tire transcript and I fail to find one word where he states he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation with the implication that will end it which is what anti-Trumpers are claiming.

  955. jason says:

    Trump could have fired Comey for ANY reason he wanted.

    Russia, the color of his tie, whatever.

    It seems pretty clear it wasn’t to stop any Russia investigation, but the fact remains, he didn’t need a “reason”.

    In the end that is the bottom line.

  956. Tgca says:

    So logically, why would you fire someone if you expect it to bring more scrutiny and prolong the investigation when you know you’re not personally under investigation.

    This is where you, the MSM, and the Libs fail. You are trying to construe from many sentences a convenenient statement of him firing Comey because of the Russia investigation when he started making a point for 5 seconds and then went off tangent and came back to that point in less than a minute. That 5 seconds string of words is your proof of obstruction. Absurd!

  957. jason says:

    The “we will stop Trump” is the biggest bombshell in all this.

    But I see Corey is not offended.

    I am sure Amoral Scumbag isn’t either.

  958. jason says:

    Imagine if the FBI was found to have people in positions of investigating Obama saying “we will stop him”.

    The MSM would be going nuts.

  959. DW says:

    979 – absolutely. They would be screaming its worse than Watergate.

  960. NYCmike says:

    “They would be screaming its worse than Watergate.”

    -ALL of you have become TRUMP CHUMPS!

  961. CG says:

    Whatever else Trump said in the Holt interview or later is irrelevant to the fact that he told Holt he fired Comey over Russia, he told the Russian Ambassador and Foreign Minister it was because of Russia, Rudy Giuliani has said it was because of Russia, and there is a belief (time will tell) of a lengthy letter that was drafted that said it was because of Russia.

    Tgca may have too much time on his hands to waste like that. He should either join Tina in reading the IG report “cover to cover” or take up cake-baking or something.

  962. CG says:

    I said the American people deserve to know all the facts, whether it is about the FBI or the Trump campaign.

    If FBI agents were saying those things, they were wrong to do so. No doubt about it. Obviously, nobody stopped Trump from becoming President.

    They should have blew off steam elsewhere.

  963. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The Daily Caller is really going to town with the IG Report.
    Here is a roadmap to the 27 leak investigations.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/14/ig-report-fbi-agents-bribed-journalists/

  964. Mr.Vito says:

    “We were deeply troubled by text messages sent by Strzok and Page that potentially indicated or created the appearance that investigative decisions were impacted by bias or improper considerations. Most of the text messages raising such questions pertained to the Russia investigation, which was not a part of this review. Nonetheless, when one senior FBI official, Strzok, who was helping to lead the Russia investigation at the time, conveys in a text message to another senior FBI official, Page, that “we’ll stop” candidate Trump from being elected— after other extensive text messages between the two disparaging candidate Trump— it is not only indicative of a biased state of mind but, even more seriously, implies a willingness to take official action to impact the presidential candidate’s electoral prospects. This is antithetical to the core values of the FBI and the Department of Justice. Moreover, as we describe in Chapter Nine, in assessing Strzok’s decision to prioritize the Russia investigation over following up on the Midyear-related investigative lead discovered on the Weiner laptop in October 2016, these text messages led us to conclude that we did not have confidence that Strzok’s decision was free from bias.”

  965. DW says:

    “During interviews with the office of the inspector general, the lawyer claimed that his “personal political feelings or beliefs…in no way impacted” his work on the Clinton or Russia investigations.”

    Oh that’s comforting to know. Just like that congressional baseball game shooter–his personal political feelings had nothing to do with it, he just happened to shoot up the GOP practice and not the Democrats.

  966. CG says:

    I think the sh.ooter said and wrote otherwise about his intention, which makes the comparison pretty off base.

  967. CG says:

    Where in the report is all the st,uff about “spies” and Trump Tower being bugged that we were promised would be in there?

  968. Mr.Vito says:

    “We note that these messages also potentially implicate the FBI’s or prosecutors’ disclosure obligations in any prosecutions resulting from the investigations at issue.(211)

  969. Mr.Vito says:

    “Where in the report is all the st,uff about “spies” and Trump Tower being bugged that we were promised would be in there?”

    What are you talking about? Everyone has known for weeks that this was limited to the Clinton email investigation.

  970. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Moron Alert(Comey):
    NEW: Per Pete Williams, Comey told the IG that he didn’t know Anthony Weiner was married to Huma Abedin.
    WOW!!!

  971. Tgca says:

    982 CG

    You claim Trump stated he fired Comey because of Russia and cited the Holt interview as your source. I just proved otherwise by outlining the discussions in minute increments. Please show us the line in your source where Trump claims he fired Comey because of Russia. What timeframe did he state that at? Please provide us evidence. It would actually be quicker for you to do that then us go back and forth posting on this discrepancy.

    Trying to deflect your incorrect statement by referring to how much time I have on my hands does not mitigate the fact that your source does not state what you claim.

    Now, if you wish to make assumptions or draw conclusions based on watching the interview, that is another matter that may be more reasonable, that I can accept as an opinion you have. But your definitive claim of an admission by Trump in that source is not accurate.

    So unless the video is doctored, I find no exact statement of a Trump admission, as have others who watched the interview and reported on it.

  972. Chicon says:

    Earlier, leaks from the IG report looked prettygood for the anti-Trump forces, and Robbie was loving it.

    Now that the full details are available, Flyboy’s “busy”.

    Given his idiocy on the Blankenship thing, we should call him Squeaker.

  973. CG says:

    I gave several sources as to when Trump or his associates said Comey was fired over Russia. The Holt interview was one of them. Trump said it himself, unprompted, unless you want to suggest against it was Alec Baldwin who was being interviewed.

  974. Chicon says:

    989 – hey, genius, this report is about the Hillary email investigation. The stuff you refer to would be in the next report, if it occurred.

  975. CG says:

    I also notice that TG has never once tried to suggest that Trump did not say to the Russian Ambassador and Foreign Minister that he fired Comey over Russia.

    I wonder why.

  976. CG says:

    So, there will be another report? Thanks for the info.

    Clinton and Trump corruption tend to bled together at times.

  977. Chicon says:

    997 – because it is irrelevant.

  978. CG says:

    Trump had nothing to with the HIllary Email investigation (he did ask terrorists to hack her email) so I am not sure what the relevance of any of this is.

    The report says that there was no political bias in the Hillary investigation.

    As I have said throughout, she was lucky that Comey decided she was “too big to jail.” Democrats should regret she was not charged, as she would have been replaced and Trump would have lost.

  979. Chicon says:

    1000 – lol.

  980. Mr.Vito says:

    “The report says that there was no political bias in the Hillary investigation.”

    Read 986 again.

  981. GPO says:

    There is a third IG report on FISA abuse correct? When is that supposed to drop?

  982. Tina says:

    The referrals of the 5 agents is likely due to hatch act violations,

    They used gunment resources to promote her thighness and attack trump.

    Those agents cannot be that stupid?

  983. DW says:

    The point of my baseball analogy is that just like that shooter had a bias that influenced who he would target, so did this lawyer.

    Try getting on a jury who will decided the fate of an alleged bank robber and you tell the court in your jury interview that you have been a bank teller for 30 years, and was once terrorized and robbed by another bank robber.

  984. CG says:

    in regards to the treatment of Hillary, despite what her acolytes think.

    What is quoted in 986 refers to perception. Those comments can be perceived as people talking about “stopping” Trump via their votes. Obviously, the FBI took no action to prevent Trump from winning the election.

    All sorts of people on HHR were saying “we are going to stop Trump” up thru November, including some who now defend his each and other move and utterance.

  985. Tina says:

    The hatch act violations often result in immediate termination,

    I mentioned this months ago.

  986. CG says:

    It’s a bad analogy. Neither Trump nor Hillary were targeted for violence by the FBI, despite what their lackeys will say.

  987. Tina says:

    The report, as mentioned, destroy mule heads Drats alleging obstruction for firing comedy.

    Comedy was worried about the illegitimacy of president her thighness

  988. CG says:

    If the report is “only about the Hillary investigation” why does the Trump firing of Comey have any relevance to this report? Tina keeps saying it does. No wonder I was confused. The rest of you are probably smarter than me and ignore her posts.

  989. Tina says:

    The third report is ongoing, criminal referrals have been made.

    The third and final report focus on fisagate, spies, etc.

    The oil can only make referrals to huber.

    The agents caufght politicking on gunment resources can be fired internally.

    The mistress quit.m Pete the cheat is somewhere in the hr department,

    The report references that the Ig makes no comments on the texts from Pete about the muh Russian hoax, at this time.

  990. Chicon says:

    Given this report, and the news of the Mueller lawyer removed from the team for anti-Trump tweets, Trump would be crazy to meet with Mueller. Of course, he’s got some crazy in him….

  991. Mr.Vito says:

    “We found that, given the absence of exigent circumstances and the frequency with which the use of personal email occurred, Comey’s use of a personal email account on multiple occasions for unclassified FBI business to be inconsistent with the DOJ Policy Statement.”

  992. Tina says:

    If the report is “only about the Hillary investigation” why does the Trump firing of Comey have any relevance to this report? Tina keeps saying it does. No wonder I was confused. The rest of you are probably smarter than me and ignore her posts.

    Lie and utter stupidity.

  993. Tgca says:

    As noted by CG, because I have too much time on my hands, I am actually reading the actual IG report rather than just relying on MSM to summarize. To make it easier for all, I will summarize the 500 IG report into a 700 page review tonight. 🙂

    So far, it’s as I expected. This is limited to behavior during the Clinton investigation only so folks should not try to bring other issues that came later on into this report since some of those matters are being handled in other IG investigation.

    The interesting part will come when we get to the back and forth statements of the witnesses outlined in the meat of the report. Some of this can never be proven but it can definitely provide insight into the actions of the participants, and folks can draw their own conclusions, right or wrong.

    So far, it looks like it’s questioning Lynch, Comey, and others of not using good judgment and not following long established protocol and how their actions have lead to reputation damage and a cloud over the FBI and DOJ.

  994. CG says:

    Since Mueller removed the anti-Trump lawyer from his team for a violation, that shows that Mueller did the right thing, as his reputation throughout decades of service to America suggests.

    If Trump has nothing to hide, he should speak to Mueller.

    If he has something to hide, it would be a bad idea.

    I assume that everyone here, even those who love him, believes he has a lot to hide.

  995. NYCmike says:

    Let me get this straight:

    Tgca goes minute-by-minute through the Lester Holt interview, and does NOT find what “CG” says was said.

    Tgca asks “CG” to show him where in the interview Trump says what “CG” said he said.

    “CG” does not respond with evidence to back up his own claim, but does say that Tgca is incorrect.

    Is that about right?

  996. Tina says:

    The report concludes that comedy performance was poor.

    Lack of performance is an issue if one is retained by his or her employer, or not.

    The Ig report indicates that comedy piqued up.

    The performance were cited as reasons for termination by swampstein and sessions.

  997. CG says:

    What Trump said to Holt is plain as day. He talks about Russia as the reason.

    The tape is not doctored. He said it. Suggesting otherwise is Alex Jones- Sandy Hook was faked lunacy.

  998. dblaikie says:

    I would have trusted Mueller a little if he had one, just one, neutral attorney for this investigation. They are all a bunch of leftest hacks. END THE INVESTIGATION NOW!!!!!

  999. Tina says:

    Cv responded with a so article. As noted in the nbc transcript, trump makes no such statement.

    Andrew McCarthy wrote about this a week or so ago.

    The fact that the Ig mentions performance by comedy supports the letters from swamp and sessions.

    Thus, obstruction is gone,

  1000. CG says:

    “Regardless of the recommendation, I was going to fire Comey — knowing there was no good time to do it! And in fact when I decided to just do it I said to myself, I said. You know, this Russia thing with Trump & Russia is a made-up story.”

  1001. DW says:

    Not targeted for physical death, but for political death.

  1002. CG says:

    I don’t know what evidence there is that all of Mueller’s attorneys are leftists

    We know Mueller is a Republican as is Rosenstein as is Sessions as are all the Republicans in Congress and elsewhere who have vouched for Mueller’s integrity.

  1003. Mr.Vito says:

    “What is quoted in 986 refers to perception.”

    No, it doesn’t. You said the report concluded there was no bias. That is blatantly false. It is stated right in 986 and numerous other places that they could not conclude that actions were bias-free, and “potentially indicated” (OR created and appearance) that there was bias.

    It is right there.

  1004. Chicon says:

    1016 – yep, complete accident that Mueller’s team was absolutely loaded with agents and lawyers that hate Trump. Couldn’t locate any Republicans to avoid bias. I’m sure it was unintentional….

  1005. Messy says:

    1007. That only happened when federal bureaucrats opened campaign headquarters in federal buildings or put up posters and other paraphernalia on the walls of their offices and cubicles.

    1012. The lawyer was thrown off the team a full year ago. The guy also kept the Russia investigation secret an it was because of him not a word of the investigation leaked.

  1006. Tina says:

    One can only obstruct a criminal investigation.

    Trump was not even accused of any crime. It was a faulty counterintelligence investigation full of fish abuses, etc., both comedy and swamp confirm that, McCarthy mentions that sessions had no need to recuse himself because it was not a criminal investigation.

    A president cannot obstruct a counterintelligence investigation.

    The fact that the Ig report confirms performance related issues with comedy, cited in the letters from swamp and sessions further proves that there is no obstruction.

    It is over formfuhrer

  1007. CG says:

    More Trump before the Holt interview:

    “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

  1008. CG says:

    It is the job of the FBI (or any law enforcement) to go after criminals.

    If that means someone loses their political career over it, so be it.

    It already happens a lot.

  1009. Tina says:

    This section of the IG report (420-421) is remarkable. It calls the Strzok/Page texts “not only indicative of a biased state of mind but, even more seriously, implies a willingness to take official action to impact the presidential candidate’s electoral prospects”

  1010. Tgca says:

    997 CG

    Do not blame me for not reviewing other sources you did not provide. I was simply rebutting your source in the Holt interview because I had previously seen that interview and read about that months ago and agreed with many that it was debunked as false. Trump never said in that interview what folks claim.

    You have been corrected on that statement so unless you provide the exact timeframe for all here to see when Trump stated he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation, we all see you were in err.

    It really would be much quicker to settle this matter and we could end this particular debate and move on to other issues of the day if you can provide the exact time reference from the source you linked where Trump admits to firing Comey because of Russia.

    Now, if you wish us to consider other sources as well, that is fair. Please provide such sources and we can review but on the Holt source, you were incorrect.

  1011. Messy says:

    1025. The Bias was anti-Hillary, not anti-Trump.

  1012. CG says:

    Where is the source that says that Mueller’s team is all Democrats? Please link to it.

    Did Ken Starr have Democrats on his team? (Probably did). Was that a demand you would have made?

  1013. Chicon says:

    “I don’t know what evidence there is that all of Mueller’s attorneys are leftists.”

    I’m shocked. Seems there’s a lot you don’t know, yet you’re so sure you’re right.

  1014. CG says:

    Ken Starr was a Republican investigating a Democrat.

    Bob Mueller is a Republican investigating a Republican.

    (if Trump is actually one)

    You all are sure acting like you think he is guilty.

  1015. CG says:

    This bit about “angry Democrats” is just an Alinksy style talking point. That’s when people do when they want to distract from the evidence.

    It has no basis in fact. The people leading and overseeing the Trump investigation are *all* Republicans. In most cases, Trump himself gave them their jobs.

  1016. Messy says:

    1031. Strzok/Page texts, which were all released show that they held Hillary in just as much contempt as they did Trump.

    1032. This is a version of the old Chico Marx gag: “Who-a you gonna believe, ME or-a your own eyes?”

  1017. NYCmike says:

    “You have been corrected on that statement so unless you provide the exact timeframe for all here to see when Trump stated he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation, we all see you were in err.”

    -“CG”?

    What was the time frame?

    You are making accusations, I would think that you have a MORAL DUTY to your G-D to show the evidence by which you accuse someone of doing something.

  1018. CG says:

    I provided the exact words in the Holt interview when Trump said the firing was due to Russia in his mind.

    Where in that interview are the exact words to say that Trump said the firing was not due to Russia?

    If he said that, he would have contradicted himself in the same interview, but alas, he never said that.

  1019. Mr.Vito says:

    Good grief

    “Second, although FBI policy strictly limits the employees who are authorized to speak to the media, we found that this policy appeared to be widely ignored during the period we reviewed.
    We identified numerous FBI employees, at all levels of the organization and with no official reason to be in contact with the media, who were nevertheless in frequent contact with reporters. The large number of FBI employees who were in contact with journalists during this time period impacted our ability to identify the sources of leaks. For example, during the periods we reviewed, we identified dozens of FBI employees that had contact with members of the media. Attached to this report as Attachments G and H are link charts that reflects the volume of communications that we identified between FBI employees and media representatives in April/May and October 2016.
    In addition to the significant number of communications between FBI employees and journalists, we identified social interactions between FBI employees and journalists that were, at a minimum, inconsistent with FBI policy and Department ethics rules. For example, we identified instances where FBI employees received tickets to sporting events from journalists, went on golfing outings with media representatives, were treated to drinks and meals after work by reporters, and were the guests of journalists at nonpublic social events. We will separately report on those investigations as they are concluded, consistent with the Inspector General (IG) Act, other applicable federal statutes, and OIG policy. The harm caused by leaks, fear of potential leaks, and a culture of unauthorized media contacts is illustrated in Chapters Ten and Eleven, where we detail the fact that these issues influenced FBI officials who were advising then Director Comey on consequential investigative decisions in October 2016. The FBI updated its media policy in November 2017, restating its strict guidelines concerning media contacts, and identifying who is required to obtain authority before engaging members of the media, and when and where to report media contact. We do not believe the problem is with the FBI’s policy, which we found to be clear and unambiguous. Rather, we concluded that these leaks highlight the need to change what appears to be a cultural attitude.”

  1020. CG says:

    I’ve linked both to the Holt interview and to the direct quote from the interview where he said it.

    This is seriously Alex Jones territory with some of you.

  1021. NYCmike says:

    Observation:

    Persons making charges which can be construed as pro-Trump (or in my opinion, pro-justice) are giving actual links, page numbers, minute-by-minute accounts, etc.

    Persons making charges which can be construed as anti-Trump are simply linking to a quote without the corresponding links, context, source, etc.

    I wonder why that would be.

  1022. CG says:

    It’s my turn to fly the plane. Robbie should be awake shortly to take over here…

  1023. CG says:

    ttps://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/05/11/president_trumps_full_interview_with_lester_holt.html

    Full video/full transcript

    He said exactly what I said he said.

  1024. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1038
    Certainly not Messy the Moron!

  1025. NYCmike says:

    Do you need help trying to copy and paste?

  1026. NYCmike says:

    There you go, Sparky!

  1027. Tina says:

    I see no evidence that Mulehead and his 13 ds are leftists.

    Jebot

  1028. Mr.Vito says:

    IG report:

    “Nonetheless, when one senior FBI official, Strzok, who was helping to lead the Russia investigation at the time, conveys in a text message to another senior FBI official, Page, that “we’ll stop” candidate Trump from being elected— after other extensive text messages between the two disparaging candidate Trump— it is not only indicative of a biased state of mind but, even more seriously, implies a willingness to take official action to impact the presidential candidate’s electoral prospects.”

    Messy: “it was anti-Clinton bias”

    Corey: “there was no bias”

    Bizarre…

  1029. Tina says:

    Email

    (11) Q: What is a partisan political email?

    A: A partisan political email is an email that is directed at the success or failure of a partisan group or candidate in a partisan race.

    (12) Q: May a federal employee—while on duty or in the workplace—receive a partisan political email?

    A: Yes. Simply receiving a partisan political email while at work, whether to a personal or government email account, without more, does not violate the Hatch Act. However, federal employees must not send or forward partisan political emails to others while on duty or in the workplace.

  1030. Tina says:

    if to the cheat is terminated, it will be likely due to a hatch act violation.

  1031. Tgca says:

    1040 CG

    You lie! He never said such thing. Please provide the timeframe or the transcript. He doesn’t say that. Maybe you think he does but those are not the words he used. Go back to the 1:07 to 1:12 timeframe and see what he says. I’m giving you exact data sources but you are not reviewing that datapoint. You are drawing conclusions.

    I already outlined that he started to talk about how others would think the reason was because of Russia. Instead of finishing up that point he started going off on the Democrats and how this was a hoax because they lost the election. But then he came back to finish his point in less than a minute And specifically stated that it will confuse people to think why he fired Comey. Noticed that the MSM and Libs never talk about that. They only talk about that five second piece and not the follow up closing point because it suits their narrative.

  1032. Tina says:

    Tg, you have destroyed the Jebot.

    He does not state what cig says he does,

  1033. Tina says:

    Lets take a look at unweissman, who by all accounts is muleheads top or lead prosecutor,

    He attended the Hillary election night rally.

    He praised sjw Yates for not supporting the immigration ban

  1034. Tina says:

    We have no evidence that muleheads Drats are ds.

  1035. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    Thanks for the transcript.

    Tgca was spot on.

    You were analyzing, and your own prejudice is evident. Joe and Mika would be proud of your work.

  1036. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    “Former Assistant Attorney General Peter Kadzik Should Have Recused. While Hillary was under investigation, Kadzik tried to get his son a job on Hillary’s campaign. He also sent an email to John Podesta, head of the Clinton campaign, which included the schedule of the release of Clinton’s emails in FOIA litigation.”
    More to come . . .
    From Ben Shapiro’s 12 takes, so far, on the IG Report

  1037. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Here is Ben Shapiro’s complete 12 points’ article. It is terrific and so damning to the Deep State, right CG?

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/31867/12-things-you-need-know-about-inspector-generals-ben-shapiro

  1038. Tina says:

    Gang, avoid the executive summary and conclusions,

    Focus on the meat of the report.

    It is devastating.

  1039. NYCmike says:

    Sheeple,

    “CG” will claim that Trump’s time as a public servant is just as conflicted as the Clinton’s…..even though he was never in political office until 2017.

  1040. mnw says:

    Tina, Sheep, Tgca

    Wow, I take my kid to the orthodontist for half an hour or so & all hell breaks loose! — couple hundred new posts.

    I think my earlier analogy about the msm leaks concerning the IG report were spot on, if I do say so. The msm leaks were designed to minimize the REALLY bad parts of it by calling attention to the LEAST bad parts.

    Lawyers sometimes call that ‘lying by omission.’

    How bad was it? Even the DEMs are piling on– ‘shocked, shocked, do you hear?’ to discover that the FBI & DOJ were purposefully trying to destroy Trump.

    Anybody (excluding trolls) think I overstate this?

    Tgca

    Your posts above are useful & instructive.

  1041. Tina says:

    Page 448 (Lawyer 2 is assigned to Russian investigation – goes on to lie about it)
    “The third exchange we identified was on November 22, 2016. FBI Attorney 2
    sent an instant message to FBI Attorney 1 commenting on the amount of money
    the subject of an FBI investigation had been paid while working on the Trump
    campaign. FBI Attorney 1 responded, “Is it making you rethink your commitment
    to the Trump administration?” FBI Attorney 2 replied, “Hell no.” and then added,
    “Viva le resistance.” FBI Attorney 1 responded that Trump was “going to eliminate
    all of our pensions in order to pay for people like” the person discussed in the
    instant message exchange, and FBI Attorney 1 and FBI Attorney 2 then began a
    discussion of federal pension and retirement issues.”

  1042. Tgca says:

    1047 CG

    Based on your new link which includes the transcript, see below for the 5 second statement by Trump that you anti-Trump folks latch on to claim a Trump admission of firing Comey because of Russia.

    “He had made a recommendation. But regardless of recommendation, I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it

    And in fact, when I decided to just do it, I said to myself — I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should’ve…”

    That does not state what you claim. It does not state I fired him because of Russia. He starts to make one point and jumps to another about the Dem hoax, as he often does and then comes back to his original point after being prodded by Holt on the issue (see below).

    “Look — look, let me tell you. As far as I’m concerned, I want that thing to be absolutely done properly.

    When I did this now, I said I probably maybe will confuse people. Maybe I’ll expand that — you know, I’ll lengthen the time because it should be over with. It should — in my opinion, should’ve been over with a long time ago because it — all it is an excuse.

    But I said to myself I might even lengthen out the investigation. But I have to do the right thing for the American people.”

    Why don’t you note that he finished his original point about confusing people and his decision will probably expand the investigation?

    He was basically arguing 3 points and jumping around:
    1st, he fired Comey and intended to
    2nd, the Russian collusion is a Dem hoax
    3rd, his firing of Comey would cause a stir and probably extend the investigation.

    Why would he fire Comey if he believes it will confuse folks and lengthen the investigation? It makes no sense.

    So I stand my ground. I just showed you he NEVER used the words or admitted I fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. You’re drawing conclusion from his sporadic jumping around on these topics.

    Unless you read into it that was his intention in the 1st part to fire Comey because of the investigation, then you must read into it in the 2nd part it was because he wanted to lengthen and expand the investigation so he had to fire Comey which contradicts the rationale for the 1st part you anti-Trump folks make.

  1043. Mr.Vito says:

    On November 1, Agent 1 and an FBI agent uninvolved in the Midyear investigation exchanged the following instant messages on the FBI’s computer network. The sender of each message is identified after the timestamp.

    8:31 a.m., Uninvolved Agent: “A horrible s.hit sandwich. Still no [grand jury] I imagine. So, you find Huma lied; BFD. No one at DoJ is going to prosecute.”

    8:33 a.m., Agent 1: “Rog –noone is going to pros[ecute] even if we find unique classified. [Grand jury] story was inaccurate 50+ GJ subpoenas and 2703d issued,”

  1044. Tina says:

    Mnw,

    Jebot 1 aka rotted, read all 500 pages of the report, hours before it was even out.

    Jebot 2 aka the Clinton groupie claims that trump says he fired comedy because of Russia and a fake letter.

    Jebot 2 also claims that there is no evidence that the 13 ds are not leftists.

  1045. CG says:

    1065. That’s exactly what it suggests. Laughable to suggest otherwise.

  1046. CG says:

    Plus, as you refuse to acknowledge, he said exactly the same thing on other occasions.

  1047. CG says:

    The fact that Trump often says things that make no sense and struggles with the English language or may have realized he slipped up in the first thing he said to Holt is irrelevant.

    The fact he said it in the Oval Office to the Russians, when he did not realize cameras were rolling is more telling.

  1048. Tina says:

    I only stated that muleheads obstruction claim is now deader than dead.

    The Ig cites comedy’s pooe performance and doing things incorrectly matches the letters by swamp and sessions.

    But bye obstruction.

    This assumes you could find obstruction in a counterintelligence investigation, which you cannot.

    Swamp clearly wrote that Mulehead is tasked to continue the counterintelligence investigation. This so happens to bust doj guidelines, but whatever.

  1049. Tina says:

    In short, the legitimacy of the sc is now questionable.

    An sc was requested when there was no criminal investigation.

  1050. CG says:

    And to say the obvious, he fired Comey expecting the investigation to end.

    He did not realize there would be a Special Counsel. Trump thought this would make it easier for him. It made it worse. He should have listened to Bannon who urged him not to fire Comey for what it would signify.

    Thankfully for America, Jeff Sessions has better judgment on the Constitution than he does in endorsing Presidential candidates.

  1051. NYCmike says:

    First, “CG” said that Trump “said” something,

    Now, “CG” says that Trump “suggests” something.

    Hmmmmmm.

  1052. Tina says:

    Are we still down to trump always says something and a fake letter to Fuhrer Mulehead?

  1053. Tina says:

    Trump would be stupid if he sits down with Fuhrer Mulehead.

    Clearly, obstruction for firing comedy is Gone, beotches,,

  1054. NYCmike says:

    “Plus, as you refuse to acknowledge, he said exactly the same thing on other occasions.”

    -“CG”,

    Tgca did not refuse anything.

    He has asked you to show proof for your original statements about what Trump SAID.

    Now you are moving on to what Trump SUGGESTS.

    Somehow, the difference between the 2 words, SAID and SUGGESTS, eludes you.

  1055. mnw says:

    Tina

    I believe the IG report is likely to change already skeptical public opinion about Mueller’s witch hunt into a negative avalanche.

    My GOD! Look at what they were saying, & then try to convince anyone (except trolls) that the FBI WASN’T out to destroy Trump.

    It’s all there in hard cold black and white.

  1056. CG says:

    And clearly, nowhere did he say to Holt he fired Comey because he botched the Hillary investigation.

    He says very clearly that the “memo” played no role in the decision he had already made to fire Comey and he immediately cited his frustration with Russia as the reason.

    The “smarter” people here who make excuses for Trump are not going down this road that the video did not say what it did. They say he was right to fire Comey over Russia. At least they have a logical conclusion instead of a some kind of voodoo theory that what Trump said in an interview is not what he actually said. It[‘s the same thing TGCA tried to do to the baker, in which he completely misrepresented the position of the baker.

  1057. CG says:

    No, he said it. That alone is the suggestion. He clearly said it. But stick together on this. It’s easier than just accepting reality and admitting that Trump fired Comey over Russia.

    You should just embrace that and say you are glad he did and that the American people don’t care.

  1058. Tgca says:

    1068 CG

    Are you now changing your argument to “what it suggests” which is an opinion and not a fact? That is very different from your previous posts that a factual statement of a Trump admission “that Comey was fired because of the Russian investigation?”

    If you had previously argued you THINK Trump fired Comey because of the Russian investigation based on things he was saying in the Holt interview, then you would have some credence as to defending an opinion, as opposed to your staunch posts that you were defending a factual statement that never occurred.

    So to rebut your OPINION now, I ask, “Trump wanted to fire Comey to confuse people and extend the investigation he thought was a hoax?” Where is the logic in that? Clearly your way of rationalizing things appear different than mine.

  1059. CG says:

    The facts are Trump’s own words, both in the interview and elsewhere.

    You are the one saying we should not take seriously what he said and that he really meant something else.

    Just like you envisioned a fantasy scenario where the baker was some sort of woman-hater or Jew-hater.

  1060. NYCmike says:

    Read this again!

    “No, he said it. That alone is the suggestion. He clearly said it.”

    I like how that middle part was thrown in…… 🙂

    Too funny!

  1061. NYCmike says:

    “The “smarter” people here”……

    Uh oh, going the MD/Author/Cory route now…….

  1062. CG says:

    There’s not much “logic” to a lot of things Trump says. It would be hard to try to decipher that now.

    First, he was totally honest with the Russians when he didn’t realize their camera people were rolling.

    Then, he said basically the same thing to Holt and *perhaps* said ooops in his head and tried to do a word salad to confuse people like you.

    If the letter exists as has been reported, we will see exactly what the original reason for firing Comey was, once Mueller releases his report.

  1063. CG says:

    Yes, I will spell it out.

    I don’t particularly care much for “Mr Vito” but he is clearly smarter than NYC, TGCA, and Tina.

  1064. NYCmike says:

    “There’s not much “logic” to a lot of things Trump says.”

    Let me correct this:

    “There’s not much “logic” to a lot of things President Trump says.”

  1065. Tgca says:

    1079 CG

    Don’t try to muddy this particular debate with the Baker issue because that whole debate was about what people believe on both sides, and personal beliefs in Bible interpretation are not fact. I am a devout believer of God but I would never claim God’s existence is a fact anymore than a non-believer can claim that God does not exist and that’s a fact.

    We are talking here about recorded statements being factual or interpreted, and you have now CONCEDED that you believe what Trump stated SUGGESTS a point of view, and I am fine with that. I will not deny you your opinion though I may debate you on it. Who knows, maybe that was Trump’s intent but we all now know from the recording and transcript, Trump NEVER stated he fired Comey because of the Russia investigation. That is actually factual and not an interpretation.

    I think we can now close this debate and move on to other issues.

  1066. NYCmike says:

    I would have done the same when President Obama was in office…….I clearly don’t understand the “logic” behind his policy choices.

  1067. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t particularly care much for “Mr Vito” but he is clearly smarter than NYC, TGCA, and Tina.”

    -Mr. Vito,

    Does this mean you will pay the $2.75 to get on the NYC subway for me?

  1068. Tina says:

    Cg is melting down.

    Got his arse kicked.

    Punchy, return to kos right away.

  1069. NYCmike says:

    JEB!2016 is way more smarter and logical than President Trump!

  1070. CG says:

    I am saying that on more than occasion Trump said something directly and there is no other logical conclusion to be made as to what he actually said other than the one I have.

    But we can agree to disagree

  1071. CG says:

    I would recommend that TGCA look into getting a hamster or some goldfish maybe.

  1072. Tina says:

    We have a case of obstruction based on fake thought and a fake letter,

    Jebot

  1073. CG says:

    “He fired Comey because Comey would not, among other things, say that he wasn’t a target of the investigation,” Giuliani said on Fox News. “He’s entitled to that. Hillary Clinton got that and he couldn’t get that. So he fired him and he said, ‘I’m free of this guy.’”

    That’s what Trump’s own lead attorney is saying on national television.

    Is he wrong? If so, does being so wrong on something like that mean he should be the lead attorney?

    This is another instance of a Trump associate accidentally being too honest when he was talking to a friendly ally.

  1074. Tgca says:

    1087 CG

    Please provide evidence on the intellect of comparing HHR posters and how you concluded that. Do you have access to our schooling records, IQ tests, performance recognitions, or is it just your interpretation as suggested from our posts? Or should I just assume it’s simply meant to be rhetorical in nature?

    Trying to turn other folks against one another will not strengthen your arguments.

  1075. DW says:

    Gonzales with several nominal changes:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    KY_06 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 204 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    TX_32 R | 205 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 2 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 43/33
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R)
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 —
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  1076. CG says:

    Well, I know that Vito has a doctorate and that NYC does not.

    My theory on Tina needs nothing further.

    And you just get huffy and into fantasyland very easily.

    But progress was made. You said I am entitled to my opinion and you are no longer saying I am lying.

    So, let’s just go with that.

  1077. Tina says:

    https://t.co/SrlC0EZ1Ho

    Sessions responds. Says there are ongoing investigations.

  1078. Tina says:

    Classic leftist.

    Gets arse handed to him.

    Speaks about intellect.

  1079. Redmen4ever says:

    Monmouth poll:

    by 51 to 39 percent, people say meeting will lower the chance of nuclear war

    by 42 to 39 percent, people say we shouldn’t have suspended joint military exercises with South Korea

    Nuclear war just ain’t what it used to be.

  1080. CG says:

    Opinions only-

    but anyone who says I am a leftist isn’t very smart

    anyone who says that I am somehow the same person as Robbie isn’t very smart.

  1081. Tina says:

    I do not like Wrong wrays presser.

  1082. CG says:

    Anyone who still suggests that LeBron James was better than Michael Jordan ……

  1083. Tgca says:

    1097

    All Trump had to do was disclose that he was informed on 3 separate occasions that I was informed by Comey, I was not the subject of investigation, and provide the dates and times he was informed of this. Now DOJ would have been really miffed because he disclosed non-public information that could impact the view of an investigation but as POTUS, he has that right.

    Trump probably would have been called a liar by the MSM, but as we now know, he was FACTUAL on that matter.

    Firing Comey for that would not have shut down the investigation or been obstruction of justice. It would simply be the president overreacting to a frustration, as he often does. Again, he could simply state what Comey told him and say Comey does not want to say it but I will. Then the press would’ve run to Comey and he would probably stated no comment.

  1084. Tgca says:

    1100

    I knew someone that has a doctorate in women’s studies. Does that mean she is more qualified on politics than someone with maybe just a masters in political science?

    Rachel Maddow has a doctorate in politics. She clearly is smarter than all here then and we should reconsider following her lead on politics.

    What about my spine surgeon? Does his doctorate in medicine means he is smarter than all us non-doctors here?

    Oh, and clearly Rand Paul is smarter than all in Congress and everyone here because he has a doctor designation as well. Therefore, we should adopt all his policies.

    What about honorary doctorates?

    Ben Affleck, Kanye West, Aretha Franklin, and Bon Jovi all have honorary doctorates even though they never completed undergrad degrees. Are they smarter than all here too

    Very interesting logic.

  1085. Tina says:

    Robert Barnes
    Robert Barnes
    @Barnes_Law
    #HorowitzReport impacts for #Trump: 1/ makes clear @Comey had to be fired; 2/ wrecks @Comey image as an ethical, thoughtful leader into a media-obsessed political hack w/o basic knowledge on cases; & 3/ shows #Russia inquiry started & led by agent promising: “we’ll stop” #Trump.

  1086. Chicon says:

    CG showing some hail damage in the attic today.

    The argument is silly – it is irrelevant why Trump fired Comey.

  1087. DW says:

    OK, I heard some NPR (national public radio) coverage of the news today, and THEY confirmed the report shows the bias of the lawyers against Trump.

    If you lose NPR, you have lost the argument.

  1088. Ron N says:

    The libs and media says this show no bias. What they forget this has nothing to do with the Trump case it could show bias in time when they do that report.

  1089. mnw says:

    DW

    I’ve been scanning msm coverage. First, they relegate it to a small sidebar. Secondly, all their viewers/readers are being told is (in sum): “Report Criticizes Comey, But No Bias Found.”

    That’s it. So, NPR is the exception, then.

  1090. Tina says:

    “I’m trying to think of a ‘would I rather’ instead of spending time with those people,” Agent 5 sent.

    Agent 1 asked, “stick your tongue in a fan??”

    Agent 5 later wrote: “I would rather have brunch with trump and a bunch of his supporters like the ones from ohio that are retarded.”

  1091. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1103 “Monmouth poll:
    by 51 to 39 percent, people say meeting will lower the chance of nuclear war by 42 to 39 percent, people say we shouldn’t have suspended joint military exercises with South Korea. Nuclear war just ain’t what it used to be.”

    Maybe, but I like the fact that the poll indicates Americans are still committed to protecting South Korea.

  1092. mnw says:

    We can only hope this sewage will motivate the voters who bother to read about it.

  1093. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1098 1087 CG
    “Please provide evidence on the intellect of comparing HHR posters and how you concluded that. Do you have access to our schooling records, IQ tests, performance recognitions, or is it just your interpretation as suggested from our posts? Or should I just assume it’s simply meant to be rhetorical in nature?

    Trying to turn other folks against one another will not strengthen your arguments.”

    Agree with Tgca. I don’t know who the smartest poster is on the board, but have a good idea who is one of the dumbest.

  1094. mnw says:

    I laughed out loud when I read that the FBI has already figured out how to solve the problem of political bias at the Bureau: training films!

  1095. Wes says:

    Here’s a tidbit I just saw on Totalitarian Racing Horses:

    SON_OF_THE_SOUTH
    June 14, 2018 at 2:36 pm
    Yes. Bold is only for mods.
    25, R, TN-09
    Classical liberals are a minority. Fusionism is the answer

  1096. Wes says:

    Who would have thought 1984 would be the template for running a nominally conservative political site?

  1097. Mr.Vito says:

    The economy in the second quarter is tracking close to 4 percent growth — a level President Donald Trump raved about last December, just before the tax bill was approved. At the same time, he had also told reporters he was holding out for a doubling of growth to 6 percent.

    For now, his 4 percent forecast is close to coming true on a quarterly basis, after strong retail sales data pushed up tracking GDP growth for the second quarter to about double the first quarter’s level. The economy grew by 2.2 percent in the first quarter.

    CNBC/Moody’s Analytics Rapid GDP Update reported economists’ estimates of tracking GDP show average growth at 3.8 percent, following Thursday’s retail sales report. Their actual forecasts, which take into account economic reports yet to be released, is running at an average 3.6 percent.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/14/trumps-forecast-of-4-percent-gdp-growth-close-to-coming-true-as-americans-spend-tax-bill-proceeds.html

  1098. mnw says:

    Vito

    I credit cutting federal regulations. I think economists yuugely misunderestimated the consequences of doing that. The GOP had been talking about doing it for 50 years, so it was just background noise to the usual suspects.

    On an unrelated topic: Sarah Sanders needs a sabbatical for the same reason that troops are rotated out of combat zones regularly.

  1099. Tgca says:

    Per Newsmax:

    Report: Marc Short to Quit WH, Citing ‘Diminishing Returns

    Well that’s a clever title. Short, diminishing.

  1100. lisab says:

    gop house pushing amnesty bill

  1101. NYCmike says:

    “gop house pushing amnesty bill”

    -Hope you are kidding…..

  1102. mnw says:

    lisab

    It ain’t going nowhere.

    Tgca

    I can see how Short & everybody else might get burned out fast working at the WH. They rotate soldiers out of combat zones regularly, you know.

  1103. mnw says:

    I expect FOX’ ratings may be eye popping this week.

  1104. lisab says:

    1.8 million daca amnesty

    25b for the wall

    no more separating families at the border, i.e. anyone with a child at the border gets to stay

  1105. GF says:

    1123- Bold typeface! The mere thought of it! Time for the smelling salts… (As legions of crimson sporting equines pass out in horror and disgust.)

  1106. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Non- Trumper David French has a comment about the FBI willfully removing Obama’s involvement in the Clinton e-mail scandal as noted in the IG Report.

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/06/14/scandal-free-president-had-name-scrubbed-from-james-comeys-report-on-hillary/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

  1107. Tina says:

    Regarding fox’s ratings, hanitty had blow out numbers for cable tv, of almost 6 million

    I think I found cg’s fake letter. It was actually one of Harry Reid’s papers lost in the 2010 debate.

    Fake paper and fake thoughts,

    Btw, Mulehead had questions about trumps thoughts. You know those 50 questions that were leaked, likely by Rudy.

  1108. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This is a great editorial by Investor’s Business Daily re: the IG Report.
    Their conclusion is that the “fix was in” from the get-go and investigators merely “kicked the tires”.

    After reading this writing and others, AG Sessions MUST appoint a Special Prosecutor!

    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/ig-report-clinton-email-investigation-political-bias/

  1109. Tina says:

    It’s kind of hard to say that the fbi was not political, when there were 5 referrals for agents that exchanged texts on politics.

    This may or may not include Pete the cheat, who was removed from the sc.

    Then, another person was removed in February of 2018 for the same.

  1110. Tina says:

    People can get what they want from the second report.

    However, as mentioned yesterday, the obstruction lie by Fuhrer Mulehead is dead.

    First, trump could not obstruct the counterintelligence memo.

    The Ig said that comedy had performance issues.

    This is further supported by the letters of dismissal from swamp and sessions.

  1111. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Here is the Bill Clinton quote from the AG Report regarding his tarmac meeting with AG Lynch.

    “I thought you know, I don’t know whether I’m more offended that they think I’m crooked or that they think I’m stupid,” Clinton told the investigators”.

    I vote CROOKED!!!

  1112. DW says:

    The more I read a out the Triple-Crown winning horse Justify, the more I like the horse. Here is a quote from his trainer:

    “He likes to push you around. He’s not a mean horse, but his patience level with people is, like, five seconds.”

    Good thing this horse doesn’t post at Red Racing Horses, he would get banned immediately.

  1113. DW says:

    and I forgot to mention that Justify is a chestnut (red) horse.

  1114. Chicon says:

    Justify is also partly owned by George Soros. Hard to hold that against a horse, imo.

  1115. mnw says:

    47/51

  1116. Robbie says:

    Jason fraud – “I agree. We need to treat glorious dear leader Trump the same way the people of North Korea treat Kim Jong Un.”

    Rebecca Ballhaus
    @rebeccaballhaus

    Trump on Kim Jong Un: “He speaks and his people sit up in attention. I want my people to do the same.”

  1117. mnw says:

    Trump states he “certainly won’t sign” Ryan’s ‘compromise’ immigration bill.

  1118. Tgca says:

    I see Trump has hired Jason as one of his speech writers.

    In an interview with Fox News, Trump called FBI top brass “scum.” I guess for brevity purposes, he shortened it from the speech writer notes of “Amoral Scumbag.”

  1119. Robbie says:

    Jason fraud – “This is true and not a lie. Paul Manafort had nothing to do with Trump’s campaign. NOTHING! Those videos of Manafort are just Deep State propaganda.”

    Caitlin Huey-Burns
    @CHueyBurns

    Trump on his former campaign manager, who also ran the critical delegate and convention process: “Manafort had nothing to do with my campaign.”

  1120. Messy says:

    1099: Paladin makes up these polls out of thin air.

  1121. Robbie says:

    Nothing funnier than NYCmike linking to a Kim Strassel column and thinking it’s remotely persuasive. What? Nothing from Janine Pirro available?

    By the way, NYCmike. Have you endorsed Confederate flag loving and white supremacist supporting Corey Stewart yet? After all, he’s willing to confront the scourge of Antifa you thought was the real problem at Charlottesville last year.

  1122. Tgca says:

    Now my friend Robbie, let’s all just have a peaceful Friday and no fighting today. As one great American once said “Can we all just get along.” RIP Rodney King.

    Btw, not sure what airline you fly or routes but I’m taking a flight in a few weeks and I think it would be awesome if I could hang in the cockpit and we could share our views on 80% of the things we agree on and debate the 20% of things we don’t. It would be a fun flight. 🙂

  1123. DW says:

    1145 – messy, all those polls are legit polls. I can provide a link to any of them.

  1124. Wobbles says:

    Agree with Tgca. I don’t know who the smartest poster is on the board, but have a good idea who is one of the dumbest.”

    Hey, SD, GFY.

  1125. NYCmike says:

    “Nothing funnier than NYCmike”

    -I knew I should have taken Seinfeld up on that deal 20 years ago instead of working in the trucking business!

  1126. NYCmike says:

    “It would be a fun flight. ?”

    -It would be a YAW-n fest!

  1127. NYCmike says:

    ” Nothing from Janine Pirro available?”

    -Has Seth Rich eaten enough pizza(gate) and has turned into Janine Pirro?

  1128. Tgca says:

    Mikey

    Now be nice. Jesus loves all of us regardless of our personal views. Well, except NeverTrumers and F*gs! Jesus hates them, especially the latter I’m told.

  1129. Waingro says:

    Chad Pergram
    ?Verified account @ChadPergram
    37m37 minutes ago

    Chief Deputy Whip GOP Rep McHenry says after Trump’s comments on immigration, they are not whipping the new immigration bill this am. “We’re getting clarity (from the President).” Says the whip will now be next wk. Says they won’t move ahead on this issue w/o support of Trump

  1130. Human Question says:

    What’s wrong with figs?

  1131. NYCmike says:

    Robbie is NOT persuaded by people who read the IG report and will tell you exactly where they find the evidence to back up their claims……but he will be persuaded by Joe, Mika, and Maggie’s “sources”…..got it!

  1132. NYCmike says:

    “What’s wrong with figs?”

    -He’s pissed, because Newton gets all of the credit, while all he got were the bruises from his fall.

  1133. lisab says:

    i think the mueller report will be a huge hatchet job

    that will lead the dems to introduce impeachment proceedings if they win the house in november — which will happen anyway if they win the house in november

    but, i think the dems are going ALL IN on the mueller report, and i think mueller wants to bring trump down, and i think many in the gop like ryan and unfortunately romney would be happy if that happens

    too many people in the republican party liked the way it was under obama

  1134. lisab says:

    what kind of surprises me is that big business and the unions are going along with it …

    the better economy is making them billions, but for some reason, the bankers and oilmen and to a lesser extent the teamsters seem to be rolling over for facebook and amazon

    there was a time when traditional businessmen would have made a few phone calls and cut the money out from the dem congressmen

    the teamsters are in the BEST financial position they have been in in 30 years, and they are saying nothing

  1135. Waingro says:

    “Fake news”?

    Shimon Prokupecz
    ?Verified account @ShimonPro

    Michael Cohen has indicated to family and friends he is willing to cooperate with federal investigators to alleviate the pressure on himself and his family, according to a source familiar with the matter.
    9:35 AM – 15 Jun 2018

    CNN
    ?Verified account @CNN

    JUST IN: Michael Cohen, Trump’s long-time “fixer,” is feeling isolated from the President and more open to cooperating with federal investigators, a source says https://cnn.it/2LPgaIT

  1136. lisab says:

    Manafort jailed

  1137. Bitterlaw says:

    So now we are deciding how to rank intelligence at HHR? By what criteria? DW is a business owner and biblical scholar. Mr. Vito is a professor. Tina is a retired super spy. Cash Cow hunts for missing planes when she is not tracking odd animal behavior. NYC runs a business (but he is the only one who can fire him). lisab can out-google anybody. Not only can Robbie fly plan s, he can land them (which is the hard part). Jason is an international A-hole of mystery. Corey is an expert on the golden age of American Idol. Wes is a real estate agent,massage therapist/welder and has read every book ever printed – twice. Seems like a bright bunch.

    As for me, the consensus here is that I am a terrible lawyer and bad coach. GFY.

  1138. lisab says:

    UK Prime Minister wore veil while participating in ‘Visit My Mosque’ weekend

  1139. lisab says:

    Republican voters are demanding that President Trump run for re-election in 2020, the latest evidence that support among his backers is stronger than it was for nearly every recent president.

    According to the latest Economist/YouGov poll, 68 percent of Republicans want Trump to run for re-election.

    And Democratic pollster John Zogby said this week that only former President George W. Bush was more popular than Trump among his base going into his first mid-term election, and he had just launched a war against America’s 9/11 attackers.

  1140. Bitterlaw says:

    It would be fun flight.

    I think it would be more like this

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1oTvAnOrdKQ

  1141. lisab says:

    As for me, the consensus here is that I am a terrible lawyer and bad coach.
    ——————————–

    i don’t remember anyone calling you a bad coach

  1142. lisab says:

    Btw, not sure what airline you fly or routes
    ————————–

    i think he pilots air force one

  1143. DW says:

    “Messy” seems to have disappeared after accusing me of posting fake polls above when in fact all of them are real.

  1144. Waingro says:

    #1168 “endcitizensunited.org”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydx4UalHzmk

  1145. janz says:

    The Crazy Reason the FBI Didn’t Search the Devices of Hillary Clinton’s Inner Circle.

    The lopsidedness of this entire investigative ordeal gets more and more apparent.

    As for how Mueller is playing hard ball with both Manafort and Cohen, I wouldn’t be surprised if one of them broke and simply lied about something (like Flynn apparently did) just to get out of Mueller’s clutches. He is known to go for the jugular just to get a win, whether or not it’s a fair one. Whitey Bulger and the anthrax case are two prime examples of Mueller’s less than ethical legal behavior to falsely indict someone.

  1146. DW says:

    Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research was the polling firm on that one, and they are definitely leftist.

  1147. janz says:

    #1158 lisab, I agree with you that nothing will satisfy Mueller until he is able to take Trump down, which will then make a lot DC politicians “smile.” This whole probe seemingly has less to do with justice and more about exercising a vendetta against an election that went wrong for the dems and never-Trump people.

  1148. Tgca says:

    I’ve been told I’m a good financial analysis professional and an awesome go-go boy.

  1149. DW says:

    Cook updated just one race this week, moving TX_32 from Lean R to Tossup. Gonzales, by far the most GOP friendly of the bunch, still has it Likely R.

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    KY_06 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 204 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 43/33
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R)
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 —
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  1150. lisab says:

    The Eiffel Tower is getting a 10 foot high bullet proof glass wall.
    ———————-

    i though walls did not work …

  1151. lisab says:

    North Korea starts returning remains of US soldiers

  1152. Messy says:

    1169. I’m allowed to have a long and nutritious lunch, aren’t I? Food is good for you!!!!

    Trump has formally lied about Paul Manafort, saying he had “nothing to do with the campaign.”

    Nothing? Didn’t he get him the nomination?

    Also, he’s in jail now. For witness tampering. awwww.

  1153. blobbie says:

    If only NK had returned them before the election, Hillary would have carried Michigan and Wisconsin

  1154. Mr.Vito says:

    “… is feeling isolated from the President and more open to cooperating with federal investigators, a source says”

    That is the same verbiage they used for Flynn, almost word for word.

  1155. mnw says:

    Thx, DW.

    It will be interesting to see if the IG report narrows the “enthusiasm gap” or not.

  1156. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump on Kim Jong Un: “He speaks and his people sit up in attention. I want my people to do the same.”

    Robbie and/or “CG” already do it.

  1157. Tgca says:

    1177

    This is good news but can open old wounds and be so traumatic for family members. To have closure and remains returned after 65 years hopefully will help some folks have some closure. It may seem odd that this could be so emotional for folks after such a long time since generally time heals all wounds, but I think it’s always different for those who didn’t have that final closure.

    Here’s hoping it brings peace to folks.

    Just makes it seem the concept of war is so senseless. One day we’re bitter enemies killing one another and later we’re trying to mend fences and show respect for the losses.

  1158. DW says:

    messy showed up again, but not to apologize for wrongly accusing me of posting fake polls when every single one of them is real.

  1159. lisab says:

    This is good news but can open old wounds and be so traumatic for family members.
    ————————————–

    my uncle was in the marine division that went to the frozen chosun …

    he will care

    it might be the only thing that gets him to say something nice about trump

  1160. Phil says:

    168

    DW, Cruz will win by something like 8-12 points. Minimum of 8 points. Just the fact that the top of the ballot governor’s race features an open border, leftist, in your face lesbian Democrat loon puts ORourke in a box right off the bat.

  1161. Tgca says:

    1185 LisaB

    Why would your uncle not say nice things about Trump? He is the greatest GOP president in 20 years.

  1162. Tgca says:

    New thread folks.

  1163. GF says:

    Chicon says:

    June 15, 2018 at 8:32 am

    Justify is also partly owned by George Soros. Hard to hold that against a horse, imo.

    **************************************************
    Nonsense! It’s really easy, in fact: Off to the glue works!