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Another Poll Shows Hogan Leads Dems By Double Digits in MD

Early voting started yesterday here in Maryland and there was another gubernatorial poll earlier this week showing Hogan with double-digit leads over the top Democrats according to a new poll from Gonzales Research.

GOVERNOR – MARYLAND (Gonzales)
Larry Hogan (R-inc) 48%
Rushern Baker (D) 37%

Larry Hogan (R-inc) 52%
Ben Jealous (D) 34%

GOVERNOR – MARYLAND – DEM PRIMARY (Gonzales)
Rushern Baker 25%
Ben Jealous 23%
Rich Madaleno 9%
Valerie Ervin 7%
Jim Shea 6%
Krish Vignarajah5%
Alec Ross 2%

This poll was done June 4-10. it’s worth noting even with these numbers, in 2014 Gonzales’ final poll in that race showed Hogan losing by 2% when Hogan ended up winning by 4%. This was at the same time (over the same time period) another pollster had Hogan ahead by 5%.

The other thing worth noting, the last time Maryland had an incumbent Republican Governor running for re-election in 2006, the Democratic candidate Martin O’Malley already had a lead in the polls in the high-single to low-double digits by roughly the same time of the election calendar. The fact that the Democrats are still trailing Hogan by double digits this late in the game is great news for Larry Hogan if history is prologue.

Posted by Dave at 2:30 pm
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2,009 Responses to “Another Poll Shows Hogan Leads Dems By Double Digits in MD”

  1. mnw says:

    frist

  2. Messy says:

    second!

  3. Messy says:

    The incumbent is popular and moderate. Good.

  4. Tgca says:

    Cuatro Bebe. Cuatro!

  5. Tgca says:

    Manafort jailed. This is very worrisome, especially when he’s not even convicted. It appears Mueller is going super aggressive. Now I’ve not seen the evidence, and what I read about the evidence of the contacts did not seem it was overwhelmingly a major concern. Mueller has been overly aggressive in the past and wrongfully accused and jailed folks.

    I don’t want to see this turn political but I could see Trump getting pissed about these hard tactics and given Manafort a pardon which could blow up this entire process but it would be within his constitutional authority, and given what we’re seeing coming out of the FBI, I think many would not fault him.

  6. DW says:

    Here is the house dashboard again for messy’s benefit full of actual polls, not fake ones like messy alleged in the thread below.

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    KY_06 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 204 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 43/33
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R)
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 —
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  7. GF says:

    Chicon says:

    June 15, 2018 at 8:32 am

    Justify is also partly owned by George Soros. Hard to hold that against a horse, imo.

    **************************************************
    Nonsense! It’s really easy, in fact: Off to the glue works!

  8. mnw says:

    Tgca

    Fyi, it’s quite routine for a defendant who is on pretrial bond to have his bond revoked if he violates a condition of the bond. This happens in federal courts hundreds of times each month.

    A routine example would be a dope dealer who makes bond & then gets arrested for selling dope again while on bond. He DOES NOT get to stay out on bond (& keep selling dope) until he’s finally tried for the original offense.

    The standard for a bond violation is NOT “proof beyond a reasonable doubt.” No jury trial. A def gets a bond violation hearing in front of a judge– which 99% of refs waive. Basically, the judge listens to the pretrial services officer (from the federal probation office) describe the alleged violation, & then the judge revokes the bond.

    I wasn’t completely clear from your post above if you understood this routine process.

  9. mnw says:

    sb “defs,” not refs!

    Thx, Spellcheck

  10. Tgca says:

    MNW

    I get that is the case for criminals with records or more heinous crimes. But from what we’ve seen thus far, most of these charges seem more like paper crimes, and I read that there was controversy over the claimed witness tampering with a phone call that lasted less than a minute. Again, i’ve not seen the evidence so maybe there is something there. But based on Mueller’s history, it’s also quite possible that he is abusing his office as he did years ago where innocent people went to jail and he would take no accountability for that. Also, the continued revelations of what’s coming out of the FBI would suggest to some that they are pushing the line as far as they can go in hopes of getting convictions.

    Clearly, if Manafort was trying to tamper with witnesses then I think the penalty should be harsh.

  11. Tgca says:

    However, I am skeptical of anything coming out of the FBI these days. People in power abuse their authority all the time. I just saw a horrific case in Mesa AZ and what the police did to two separate individuals, where it involves what appears to be extreme police brutality from the videos.

    One guy appeared attractive. There is absolutely no reason for police to punch attractive people in the face. You only do that with ugly people.

  12. Tgca says:

    Per Newsmax article link below, Trump is more popular with the GOP then any other GOP president in decades, including Reagan at this time in their presidency. The only exception here was GWB when we were going to war. Trump also have higher support then any of the Dem presidents in the recent decades as well.

    So if you trust Zogby polling, this could possibly be good news for the GOP going into the mid terms. The only downside is that the Dems are also energized. So we’ll have to see how this impacts turn out.

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/zogby-trump-gop-base/2018/06/15/id/866397/

  13. mnw says:

    Tgca

    One more thing. Manafort’s bond violation was atypical in that a federal Grand Jury had already indicted him for a new charge, based on the alleged bond violation.

    Thus, Manafort’s lawyer was in the unenviable position of having to argue, “Judge, leave my client on bond, even though a federal Grand Jury has already found probable cause to believe that he has committed a new federal crime.”

    You know where I come from on all these issues, Tgca. I’m a deadender* Trump chump.** But Manafort was without a prayer here.

    *per jason
    **per trolls

  14. mnw says:

    T (mind if I call you T?)

    I don’t trust Zogby at all. But setting that aside, that’s still an ominous “downside.”

  15. Tgca says:

    Well, I am thinking that this IG report, the McCabe report, as well as the economy doing well, and potential peace in the Korean Peninsula, all bode well to energize the GOP in the fall. However, elections are always about turn out. We’ll just have to wait and see how that goes.

    It doesn’t matter how the Dems or the MSM spin this. The IG did not say there was no bias, he said he could find no bias from the evidence that impacted the investigation decisions.

    He also stated he found no evidence that Lynch and Clinton were up to no good. Of course there’s not going to be any evidence if they were the only two having a private conversation because clearly neither one will ever admit if they did. Neither one has to be in fear of the other one turning against them because then they both be guilty of improper communication and potentially obstruction of justice.

    We are talking about the court of public opinion here, so the threshold of what people will or will not accept as belief is very different than in a court of law. Call me cynical, but it is just so hard for me to believe that Lynch and Clinton spent 35 minutes on a plane and talked about grandchildren. For Christ sake’s, Clinton only had one grandchild at the time so how much bragging can you do about one kid? 🙂

  16. Wes says:

    On the othrr hand, Mnw, other VA, primary turnout–the best hard data for gauging party enthusiasm ahead of the general election season–has shown roughly equal GOP and Dem enthusiasm. Thus, the GOP looks poised to do fairly well nationally while taking it on the chin in the Old Dominion.

  17. Wes says:

    Tg, maybe they were discussing which city in a critical electoral state the Clintons will name their next grandchild after.

  18. Wes says:

    Other*

    …other than…*

  19. lisab says:

    Netflix film crews ‘banned from looking at each other for longer than five seconds’ in #metoo crackdown

  20. mnw says:

    I think all of us pollhawks are of the view that Scott will win. I just hope he is not the ‘lone survivor’ among GOP nominees. You get those in every election– somebody who survives the general trend, or wave, if you will.

    Wes

    The Wise Men are saying that with late votes now being included in CA, the situation there has improved dramatically for DEMs in all the tossup districts. They are eeyoring up a storm over there today.

  21. lisab says:

    President Donald Trump stunned his fellow world leaders at the G7 meeting when he said he would ship “25 million” Mexicans to Japan, which would result in Prime Minister Shinzo Abe losing his next election.
    —————————–

    trump is a madman

  22. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m fine with Manafort going to prison. I’m not a big fan of bail. Innocent until proven guilty? Sure. But you probably did something else they didn’t catch you for.

  23. Mr.Vito says:

    For what did you not get caught, Mr.Bitter, for which you should be in prison?

  24. Tgca says:

    OMG! The guy who attacked Rand Paul and broke his ribs is given just 30 days in jail as opposed to the 21 month sentence sought by prosecutors because an outside MI judge brought in on the case thought this 1st offense was not serious enough to warrant more time.

    Unbelievable!!! He spends less time in jail then Rand does recuperating. This wasn’t a fight between 2 guys that escalated. He actually attacked Rand unprovoked. To me that’s like a mugging. 30 days is absurd when someone is injured and needs medical care and time off from work to recuperate.

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/rand-paul-attack-sentencing-kentucky/2018/06/15/id/866490/

  25. Mr.Vito says:

    http://insider.foxnews.com/2018/06/15/lindsey-graham-defends-working-president-trump-despite-past-conflicts-cnn

    “I know how the game is played, I don’t give a damn,” Graham said of being considered “two-faced” for working with Trump, but a “hero” for working with Obama.

    “If you don’t like me working with President Trump to make the world a better place, I don’t give a s***,” Graham said.”

  26. Tina says:

    Mitchie calls for an end to Mulehead.

    Now, they need to pull funding.

  27. Tina says:

    The jebots lost Mitchieknow on Fuhrer Mulehead.

  28. JC says:

    Heh

    @realDonaldTrump
    I’ve had to beat 17 very talented people including the Bush Dynasty, then I had to beat the Clinton Dynasty, and now I have to beat a phony Witch Hunt and all of the dishonest people covered in the IG Report…and never forget the Fake News Media. It never ends!

  29. Phil says:

    26. Different sentencing guidelines. Twenty months for attacking a Democrat. Thirty days for going after a Republican.

  30. Tina says:

    So FBI director, wrong Wray, orders bias training despite finding no bias in the her thighness matter?

    I will now refer to the fbi as FIB.

  31. lisab says:

    Neighbors rush to man’s defense after he is arrested for shoving a 12-year-old boy to the ground, saying the child had thrown a dead snake at the attacker’s wife and filmed her reaction on a cellphone

  32. lisab says:

    Harvard is accused of discriminating against Asian-Americans by ranking them lower in personality traits including ‘likeability’

  33. Mr.Vito says:

    I highly recommend Shapiro’s podcast from today for unpacking the IG report. No Trump fan… titled “What in the Everloving Hell?”

    https://www.dailywire.com/podcasts/31889/ep-561-what-everloving-hell

    I laughed at the dove metaphor starting about 25:30.

  34. Wes says:

    The Wise Men are saying that with late votes now being included in CA, the situation there has improved dramatically for DEMs in all the tossup districts. They are eeyoring up a storm over there today.

    In other news, the Sun will rise in the east in a few hours.

  35. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “21. The Wise Men are saying that with late votes now being included in CA, the situation there has improved dramatically for DEMs in all the tossup districts. They are eeyoring up a storm over there today.”

    Did they name any particular districts? The results as of June 15 look about the same as before.

  36. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #37
    The Wise Men at RRH claim that Knight(R-25) is a goner although he has 52.3% of the vote down from 52.8% right after election day.

  37. Wes says:

    The Wise Men at RRH like to declare every Republican to be a goner before Election Day.

  38. Tina says:

    Did the FIB HIRE Eric Holder to conduct the bias training?

    why is there bias training if the Executuve Summary written by the swamp indicate no bias?

  39. mnw says:

    Wow. Hangover. Memo to self: never drink again!

    1) Anybody see Laura Ingraham’s segment on homelessness in San Francisco? Feces, needles & cardboard shacks on every major street. The skeves shoot up right in public, too. The tourists only visit once! Nobody ever wants a second helping of the City By the Bay THESE days.

    2) DEMs are getting a lot of political traction based on the detention of unaccompanied illegal alien children. The alternative to zero tolerance is… more unaccompanied illegal alien children! They’re not here by accident. The “cages” in which they’re “incarcerated” are pleasant well-run facilities, btw. DHS contracts that out to charitable organizations. In any event, it’s a handy club with which to beat Trump.

  40. mnw says:

    There are reports that many voters in SF & Seattle are now mumbling, “We need a Giuliani.”

    Huh.

  41. Tina says:

    reeShow
    Giuliani — “I’m Calling Joe Biden A Mentally Deficient Idiot”

    Giuliani added that Biden finished last in his law school class. Is it 2020 already? http://ht.ly/N4Oj30kwMWW
    8:18 AM – Jun 16, 2018

  42. lisab says:

    “I’m Calling Joe Biden A Mentally Deficient Idiot”
    ————————–

    actually he clarified his remarks later

    “President Donald Trump’s attorney Rudy Giuliani attempted to clarify his comments about Joe Biden in which he called the former Democratic vice president “a mentally deficient idiot.”

    “I didn’t mean that. I meant he’s dumb,” Giuliani told CNN’s Chris Cuomo during an interview Friday on “Cuomo Prime Time.”

  43. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    41. “Anybody see Laura Ingraham’s segment on homelessness in San Francisco? Feces, needles & cardboard shacks on every major street. The skeves shoot up right in public, too.”

    Same issue in San Diego. It was so bad we had a hepatitis A outbreak among the homeless, which killed 20 and made 578 sick. About 120,000 people were vaccinated to counter it.

    Along with, and probably as a result, of homelessness, you have a major increase in petty crime. It is no use calling the police, your put on for 45 minutes or more. Even calls to 9-11 are often put on hold. San Diego claims a low crime rate in part because it is very difficult to report any criminal activity to the police.

    Los Angeles is even worse.

  44. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    U.S. News & World Report just rated California as having the worst quality of life in the nation.

  45. Robbie says:

    But what about Antifa?

    Mediaite
    @Mediaite

    NEW: GOP Senate Nominee Corey Stewart’s Ties to White Supremacists Run Deeper Than Previously Reported http://mediaite.com/a/wgxms

  46. Tina says:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/prosecutor-who-petitioned-to-put-paul-manafort-in-prison-attended-hillary-clintons-election-night-party/

    Weissman was at the Hillary election night rally.

    Remember, the Clinton groupie said that none of the 13 angry ds, were Drats?

  47. mnw says:

    Tina

    Dershowitz agrees with you that Manafort shouldn’t have been detained pending trial. So there’s that.

    However, to me Manafort’s bond revocation seemed routine. I think Dershowitz would lose that fight in front of 99 judges out of a hundred.

    SDC

    Younger voters won’t even remember a time when we did NOT have homeless/mentally ill/drug addicts living in the streets! Liberal judges are responsible for this phenomenon.

    Homeless men used to be in mens’ shelters (Salvation Army)– until they could find work (THOSE days are long gone!). Mentally ill used to be in mental hospitals (insane asylums), & drug addicts uses to be in jail, or on court-supervised probation/parole of some sort.

    The problem with putting all these people on the street is that it makes cities unlivable for normal citizens. The idea of “the community’s rights” has disappeared.

    There was a WSJ story not too long ago about a man who called 911 in LA & said, “My car was stolen. I reported it stolen. It’s right in front of me, right now. I’m following it.” The police told him to go away & leave them alone.

  48. Human Question says:

    Who put the bomp in the bomp bah bomp bah bomp?

  49. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    49. “My car was stolen. I reported it stolen. It’s right in front of me, right now. I’m following it.” The police told him to go away & leave them alone.”

    You don’t know how many stories I can tell you like that. In one case a few blocks away, a woman had someone breaking into her home; she called 9-11 and was told because she was not being physically threatened, it was not a 9-11 call. In another case, two women were followed out of a park and sought shelter in a store. The store staff locked the door; the transient make gestures like he had a gun. 9-11 call, the police arrived over 15 minutes later.

    Where I am at, we have basically formed a neighborhood group to addresses issues responsibly on our own. Any problem transient is approached by a group of people. A couple month’s ago had a guy in a homeless camp walking the neighborhood and blowing an air horn, which was very loud. I went out to the camp, told him he was disturbing children, and asked for the air horn. He gave it to me. That camp was actually quite friendly. Some transients are nice, a few bad.

    In almost all cases the problem is drugs and alcohol, sometimes used to self treat mental issues. The ones I talk to do not want to go into a shelter because it is like going to prison. Too many rules, including not be able to take drugs and use alcohol.

  50. Human Question says:

    What’s the deal with brunch? If it’s a combination of breakfast and lunch, how come there’s no lupper or no linner?

  51. janz says:

    Los Angeles is like a 3rd world country just blocks from the shiny civic ctr. We were down there this afternoon and couldn’t wait to leave what is like a shanty town.

  52. Bitterlaw says:

    Just checking in. This morning I had to get a softball tournament team’s roster approved. I think that when the Berlin Wall came down that many Stasi began working for Little League.

  53. mnw says:

    I just watched a montage of liberal TV talking heads* reacting to Trump’s announcement of his candidacy for President– 3 years ago today.

    In many ways, it’s MORE remarkable than the familiar montage of liberal despair the night he won. It’s quite a rush!**

    *at Gateway Pundit

    **except I thought he was a buffoon back then myself, so I feel almost as big a fool as they were. Do you guys know ANYBODY who supported Trump early on? I don’t.

  54. mnw says:

    There’s a superb movie with Ben Kingsley, about a fictional Stasi agent– “The Lives of Others.” It’s a German film.

  55. GF says:

    Mnw, speaking of Kingsley, I see that he will be playing Eichmann in a production about his capture and trial in Israel. I’m hoping it’s well done as that is an incredible story of which more young people should be aware (I read the book when I was about eleven or twelve).

  56. Messy says:

    48. Going to a huge party for the experience of mass joy is not particularly partisan.

    That it didn’t turn out that way is something that cannot be erased.

  57. Tgca says:

    To all you fathers out there, Happy Fathers Day!!! Yay!

    Dads, just as moms, play an extremely important role in the family and sometimes folks forget to recognize that because dads are expected to be there no questions asked. I think being a dad is a great privilege and can mean the world to a child, especially when they’re young.

    So for all the dads here, this is your special day, the one day you are allowed to sit back and accept all the love and appreciation of your family without having to worry about anything else.

    Bless all the dads as we need them more than ever.

    Enjoy your day.

  58. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #58
    Moron Alert!

  59. Human Question says:

    How many Lowe’s could Rob Lowe rob if Rob Lowe could rob Lowe’s?

  60. Bitterlaw says:

    I have already blocked off my nap from 1:00 to 3:00. Happy Father’s Day.

  61. Wes says:

    Mnw, I spent some time in the hospital in November 2015. I ended up convalescing alongside a young soldier. He was the first person I ever heard express support for Donald Trump. After I was discharged, his expression of support stuck with me. I saw a nascent but increasingly prominent groundswell of support for Trump down here. Even contractors I was dealing with were openly expressing their disdain for Obama and interest in Trump before Trump won the primaries. This wasn’t localized to where I live but was present virtually everywhere I went in southeast NC.

    That led me to my conclusions about the passionate support for Trump in this state and caused me to realize he would win the state in the presidential election.

    Now I didn’t think that would translate to a national victory, but I did think based on what I was observing Trump would do very well in the general election. Nonetheless, a year before Trump and Hillary faced off, I was beginning to see he was putting together a potent electoral coalition.

  62. Wes says:

    Messy says:
    June 17, 2018 at 7:40 am
    48. Going to a huge party for the experience of mass joy is not particularly partisan.

    That it didn’t turn out that way is something that cannot be erased.

    So he went to Hillary’s campaign party but wasn’t a supporter of hers?

    I know I always attend campaign parties of candidates I don’t support.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

  63. Robbie says:

    The best part of Stephen Miller’s various immigration gambits (like his disgusting child separation plan) is they invariably unite Democrats and split Republicans. Brilliant! What a great political tactician.

  64. Tina says:

    Nunes is asking for documents from swamp and wrong Wray. The docs have been requested since 2016. Essentially, they want to know what spies aka plants were attempting to be imbedded or were imbedded by Obama into the trump campaign.

    An fbi associate named Greenberg was just outed as one of those spies.

    Nunes with the blessing of The Rooster and Ryan gave a deadline of Monday

    It is time that they begin impeachment proceedings against Swampstein and Wrong Wray, in addition to holding them in contempt.

    I am especially concerned with swampstein allegedly threa Ina congressional officials and aides.

  65. mnw says:

    Wes

    Those are interesting observations. I was completely blindsided. Most of my friends were people I knew from the office, & if any of them liked Trump, they kept it to themselves. Where I worked, people were a little reluctant to even admit voting for Republicans, let alone Trump.

    I did see a TV ‘man on the street’ interview feature shortly after Trump announced, & I was surprised, bordering on shocked, that several blue collar voters really BELIEVED Trump would be nominated and elected!

    Here is something I read recently, about the political sincerity of an obscure politician long ago, that put me in mind of Trump & his hateful sister (the ‘abortion Barbie’ judge):

    A newspaper editor wrote, “I must confess I am afraid of [him]. He is southern by birth, southern in his associations, and southern, if I mistake not, in his sympathies. I have thought that he would not come squarely up to the mark in a hand to hand fight with southern influence and dictation. His wife, you know, is a Todd, of a pro-slavery family, and so are all his kin.”

  66. mnw says:

    GF 57

    Do we need another Eichmann movie? I saw “Man in the Glass Booth,” with Donald Pleasance, based on the play of the same name. That was enough for me, although basically they just filmed the play.

    I’ve never seen Kingsley in any role where he wasn’t outstanding. For some odd reason, he seems to play Germans a lot.

  67. Robbie says:

    But much white working class realignment.

    Josh Kraushaar
    @HotlineJosh

    NEW Against the Grain: “The GOP’s Rapid Retreat in the Midwest”

    “Rs have abandoned Senate races in states Trump carried, and could lose several key governorships as well. Trump’s boasting of crashing the blue wall is rapidly becoming ancient history.”

  68. Wes says:

    Republicans are seriously contesting Senate seats in FL, WV, IN, MO, MT, and ND, Robbie. WI, PA, and MI look like states Dems will hold Senate seats in despite Trump’s narrow 2016 victory.

    OH is the only state Trump carried handily where Dems are heavily favored, largely because Renacci is largely unknown statewide.

    While I think the GOP should step up efforts in OH and WI (while MI and PA are lost causes), the actual campaign for the Senate doesn’t match Kraushaar’s extreme pessimism propagated by you.

  69. lisab says:

    “Do you guys know ANYBODY who supported Trump early on? I don’t.”

    i did not support him, and did not vote for him

    but from day one i GREATLY enjoyed how much he annoyed the “elites” “swells” “swap creatures” “media” etc., including those like md here

    i definitely was one of those who voted for trump on drudge after each debate …

    i just loved the fact his victories drove md nuts

    my only worry was that he was too weak a candidate to stop hillary at all, and she would be perceived as having a huge “mandate” after her 350+ ev win

    i was sooooooo happy he beat hillary and enjoyed the bitter tears of the sjw’s immensely

    although i don’t like trump myself, he is the only candidate i can remember who people still have trump signs on their houses … and this is ny state

  70. lisab says:

    my dislike if hillary has not diminished

    although my dislike of trump has

    i have been pleasantly surprised by how well things are going economically

    my hubby got a 50% raise! that is why we are moving to minnesota

  71. lisab says:

    While I think the GOP should step up efforts in OH and WI (while MI and PA are lost causes), the actual campaign for the Senate doesn’t match Kraushaar’s extreme pessimism propagated by you.
    —————————

    wes,

    i think you are forgetting how close the gop came to losing utah last time … robbie said it was in play

  72. Robbie says:

    Destroying families and terrifying children to own the libs!

    Philip Rucker
    @PhilipRucker

    At a Texas migrant shelter, a little girl taken from her mother was crying and a shelter worker was prohibited from touching, hugging or comforting the girl. A horrific scene

  73. Phil says:

    Boohoo

  74. Messy says:

    75. the optics of this are horrible. Especially for the GOP.

  75. Messy says:

    66. I really hope they try to impeach Rosenstein. It’ll up the democrats’ ratings by five to ten points.

  76. Phil says:

    76

    Can I get you a tissue?

  77. mnw says:

    lisab

    I held my nose shut with a pair of heavy duty. industrial strength pliers & voted for McCain. UGH! You should’ve done the same with Trump, imo. We settle these things in the PRIMARIES.

    If our noses are too delicate, we get Zero & Hillary.

  78. lisab says:

    i voted for stein, she was the best of all major options in my opinion

    however, i have been pleasantly surprised by trump. i am a social liberal but fiscal conservative, so actually i am more scared of pence than trump — at least so far.

    as long as he keeps us out of war, taxes down, illegal immigration down and the economy moving along … i will buy him condoms so he can play with stormy daniels

  79. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #78- Phil
    Great reply in 6 words.
    Of course, Robbie and Messy have never shed a tear over the murders and killings perpetrated by illegals here in this Country.

  80. Cash Cow TM says:

    lisab,

    Maybe Walt will stop by and see you in Minnesota when he goes back and forth to see his son in Wisco.

    You gonna live in the twin cities area?

  81. Cash Cow TM says:

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO DAVE WISSING, THE HEDGEHOG WIZARD!

  82. Tina says:

    The optics are terrible.

    Agreed breaking laws are terrible.

  83. Hugh says:

    69. What was Josh’s prognostication for the 2016 election?

  84. lisab says:

    You gonna live in the twin cities area?
    —————————————-

    no, i am not that lucky

  85. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    John Hindracker at the Power Line Blog is upbeat about GOP chances to take the Senate seat in MN that Al Franken vacated.
    Please read the article about GOP candidate Karin Housely, whose spouse is a legend in MN hockey.

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/06/blue-wave-not-where-i-live.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+powerlineblog%2Flivefeed+%28Power+Line%29

  86. NYCmike says:

    The more Robbie writes, the better i feel about novmber.

    Screw your optics! It is so blatantly obvious who the media works now, more and more people are tuning them out.

  87. Robbie says:

    Separating children from their parents and keeping them in cages to own the libs.

    Ronald Brownstein
    @RonBrownstein

    “Inside an old warehouse in South Texas, hundreds of children wait away from their parents in a series of cages created by metal fencing. One cage had 20 children inside.”

  88. Tina says:

    The Drats keep mentioning cages, just like the picture taken from 2014 cited by fatty.

  89. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #90
    Another phony cause celebre for the Liberals and anti-Trumpers like Robbie. YAWN!!
    This will continue until the next shooting so gun control can return to the spotlight.
    Ron Brownstein is and always will be a Drama King!
    Robbie, your girlfriend, Nan Pelosi, will be at the border tomorrow. With her there, the travesty of this issue will be confirmed!

  90. Tina says:

    The rooster now claims that the Ig report helps trump,

    The issue is that the Ig report, part dues, destroys the fake obstruction charge (notice how the ds moved on from collusion).

    The bigger problem is that many of the corrupt investigators from Fib or the department of just me, moved on to the sc fake investigation.

    There involvement alone taints Fuhrer Mulehead.

  91. Tina says:

    More Rs now need to,come out and call for an end Fuhrer Mulehead and an investigation into Mulehead.

    They need to join up with Mitchie, who to his credit called for an end to Fuhrer.

  92. Wes says:

    Republicans aren’t going to win that seat, Sheeple.

  93. Tgca says:

    BULL SH*t!!! Off to the smelting plant you go then. Humph!

    Sex Robots Turn Down Sex if Not in the Mood

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/sex-robot-turns-down-steamy-12726878

  94. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #95
    Probably not, but the Democrat candidate,Smith, is a long time political hack and Dayton sycophant. Also, TPaw will be at the top of the ticket for the GOP.
    The guy who authored the essay lives in MN and has been poltically active for decades. In my ratings, Lean D at this point, but things could get interesting.

  95. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Tina
    So Pete the Cheat’s attorney claims that darlin’ Pete is willing to testify unconditionally in front of all Congressional Committees.
    What nonsense! This is right out of the playbook of Lois Lerner who said the same before she pleaded the 5th!,

  96. Tina says:

    He will not be allowed to testify by the fib.

    Reason being, Pete the cheats counterpart wanted to testify that Flynn did not lie. The fib disallowed him from testifying.

    There is a possibility that Pete has immunity, however.

  97. Tina says:

    So, Pete the cheat can claim that he wants to, knowing full well that he will not be able to do so,

    Pete is also in more legal jeopardy. He downloaded materials that he should have not done so and evidently told people that he did not do so.

    So, he lied and obstructed.

  98. Phil says:

    Robbie,

    Give me a minute while I break out my violin.

    Seriously, is there left wing hack anywhere that you won’t link, cite, or quote?

  99. dblaikie says:

    I don’t believe that there is now any question. The IG’s report reveals that as far as the Russia report goes there is fruit of the poisonous tree. Time to end the Mueller probe now.

  100. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    London is the leftist dream city, strict gun control so of course no crime.

    “The figures also reveal that only nine per cent of suspects in all crimes are caught and punished – a reduction of more than 50 per cent in the past five years.
    The worrying statistics will add to concerns about the surge of violent crime in the UK, particularly in London.
    Scores of violent attacks and muggings have been reported in the capital, with many incidents involving mopeds and knives.
    Meanwhile, solved burglary cases halved from six per cent in 2013 to three per cent in 2017, and robbery cases from nine per cent to four per cent in the same period.
    There were 159 robberies in Holloway Road and Highgate Hill last year, making them the streets most plagued by moped gang crime.
    However, just one offender was caught and punished.
    London’s knife crime epidemic has also spread to the Home Counties.
    Hertfordshire, Hampshire, Warwickshire, Norfolk and north Wales’ rates of knife crime have all increased by more than 100 per cent in the past three years.”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5853179/Less-one-20-street-robberies-burglaries-solved-police-new-figures-reveal.html

  101. mnw says:

    Wes 95 & Sheep

    I disagree with Wes, in part. I like Housely’s chances in MN better than Renacci’s chances in OH. I would triage OH & put that national GOP money in MN.

    Who seems more formidable, Brown in OH, who’s run & won before, or Smith in MN– the recently-appointed nonentity? MN seems likely to have a strong GOP nominee for Guv, & the DEMs will have Ellison on the statewide ticket for AG.

    Wes

    You read powerline blog much? They’re very sharp, & they’re based in MN.

  102. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    74. “Robbie. Separating children from their parents and keeping them in cages to own the libs.”

    Truly awful Robbie, and worse the Obama administration did it to.

    I think illegal immigrants should take action, NOW! They should refuse to come to such a barbaric nation. Illegal immigrants need to boycott the U.S.

  103. mnw says:

    P.S. The DEMs will have Ilhan Omar for Ellison’s old seat in the House too– a virtual certainty to be nominated. That’s two red-hot antisemites, altho Omar won’t be running statewide.

  104. mnw says:

    SDC

    I suspect London is another city grumbling, “We need a Giuliani!” Along with LA, SF & Seattle. Perhaps San Diego too.

  105. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is another example of a city letting criminal gangs run out of control. Apparently those who murder people are granted some sort of parole in New Jersey.

    “TRENTON, N.J. (AP) — Gunmen opened fire at an all-night arts and music festival early Sunday morning, sending people running over each other in the scramble to safety, authorities said. One suspect was killed and 22 people, including two suspects, were injured.
    Of 17 people treated for gunshot wounds, four of them, including a 13-year-old boy, were critically injured but three had been upgraded to stable by evening, leaving only one man believed to be a suspect in critical condition, Mercer County Prosecutor Angelo Onofri.
    The shots rang out around 2:45 a.m. Sunday as an estimated 1,000 or more people were attending the Art All Night Trenton festival that showcases local art, music, food and films.
    Onofri said numerous fights inside and outside had prompted police to tell organizers that the event needed to be shut down because “there was a report that the mood inside the venue had been changing.” Organizers were in the process of doing that when the shooting started, he said.
    Authorities believe several neighborhood gangs had a dispute at the venue, and multiple suspects began shooting at each other, with police returning fire, Onofri said.
    Tahaij Wells, 33, the suspect who was killed, had recently been released from prison and was on parole since February on homicide-related charges, Onofri said. Amir Armstrong, 23, listed in stable condition, was charged with a weapons offense. It was not immediately known if he had an attorney who could comment.”

  106. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    74. “Destroying families and terrifying children to own the libs!”

    Hey Robbie. do you agree with Nancy Pelosi that it was wrong to call members of the MS-13 gang “animals.” Pelosi said the comment was a new low, and that he does not realized they are humans with “spark of divinity.”

    You claim outrage when they briefly separate children at the border (which I have reservations about also), shouldn’t you be more outraged that Pelosi favors letting members of a ruthless gang of killers into the country, so we can discover “their spark of divinity? Perhaps separating children from adults, many of whom could be gangsters, has some merit.

  107. mnw says:

    The alternative to “separating children at the border” is to admit the whole family & turn ’em loose! Of course, they’ll have to promise to show up for their deportation hearing in 18 months (wink, wink).

    So this “separating children” is the wedge issue DEMs plan to use to restore open borders for all.

    SDC

    As for Trenton’s gang problem, I’m sure reelecting a young law & order firebrand like Bob Menendez will help.

  108. Chicon says:

    Robbie has gone the way of MD and Author. Batsh!t crazy.

  109. mnw says:

    Chi

    Cards have fallen & can’t get up. They’re getting Cubbed.

  110. Bitterlaw says:

    Hating Trump and voting for Trump can be done at the same time. Trust me.

  111. janz says:

    Democrat Admits Child Migrant Crisis was Kept Very Quiet Under Obama.

    I don’t mind criticism towards the Trump Administration when it’s fairly reported, demonstrating a genuine wrongdoing rather then one that is motivated by partisan journalism. However, this is simply not the case. During the Obama reign abuses and negative actions were downplayed, dismissed, or quietly occurred under the radar of an incurious press. The example of how these current day migrant children are being held is only one of many incidents where the media is going bonkers on something they didn’t deem important when it occurred during the past administration.

    Also, did anyone catch how the NYTs printed a retraction on the Scott Pruitt allegations? Misinformation, non-researched stories seem so common when it has Trump’s name involved in the byline.

  112. Tina says:

    It is on finally. Trump has finally mentioned Robert Muelller directly in a tweett.

    It will not end well for Fuhrer.

  113. Tina says:

    Do not worry Laura Bush is concerned about the children being separated. Never notes that her husband also oversaw that policy.

  114. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    During the Obama administration parents were sending their children alone to the border to enter the U.S. Pelosi was arguing we should let them in. Amazing how she is now concerned that children are being separated from their parents now.

  115. Messy says:

    93. Yeah, it shows that th3 FBI got him elected, with the help of the Russians.

    115. Remember Trump is Führer.

  116. Wes says:

    Mnw, point taken, but MN is a state in a Trump midterm that voted for Hillary (albeit by a reduced margin) and last saw a Republican win statewide in 2006–by barely a point, even as all other Republicans running for reelection statewide lost.

    It would take a perfect storm such as happened in 2002 to get a Republican elected statewide there. With liberals energized against Trump, I don’t see it.

    As far as OH, Republicans have won every statewide election besides the one for Brown’s seat since 2010. It went solidly for Trump, voting for him by a bigger margin than for any other President since Reagan and GWB caaried it in the ’80s. If Renacci can build his name ID and highlight Brown’s leftist voting record and history of female abuse, Renacci can win.

    The same dynamics don’t seem to apply in MN, where while everything you said is true, Dems have an unalloyed decade worth of statewide victories as well as a popular Senator seeking a third term running alongside the appointed one.

  117. DW says:

    New update to Dashboard with a new OH_12 poll in the special election:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    KY_06 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 204 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics)
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R)
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 —
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  118. Tgca says:

    Tell me something I don’t already know!

    Study: Liberal States – Conn., NY, Calif – Have Most Psychopaths

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/psychopaths-northeast-dc-higher/2018/06/17/id/866648/

  119. jason says:

    Yeah, it shows that th3 FBI got him elected, with the help of the Russians.”

    So Hillary was that bad a candidate huh?

  120. Wes says:

    Didn’t Hillary get Trump elected by assuming she had the race won after compromising national security?

  121. jason says:

    Tina’s pet RINO…

    “House oversight committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) threatened on Sunday to hold top FBI and Justice Department officials in contempt of Congress if they fail to comply with lawmakers’ subpoenas for sensitive documents.

    Earlier this year, lawmakers subpoenaed troves of documents from the two agencies related to the FBI’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email server, the firing of former FBI official Andrew McCabe, and alleged surveillance of the Trump campaign during the 2016 election.

    Republicans have accused the DOJ and FBI of intentionally blocking their investigation. The agencies claim that the requested documents require time-intensive review before they can be released.

    Gowdy, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), and House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) met on Friday with FBI and DOJ officials and “went item by item” through the outstanding subpoenas, Gowdy told Chris Wallace on “Fox News Sunday.”

    “And Paul [Ryan] made it very clear: There’s going to be action on the floor of the House this week if the FBI and DOJ do not comply with our subpoena request,” Gowdy said. The House will use “its full arsenal of constitutional weapons to gain compliance,” he continued.

    “Including contempt of Congress?” Wallace asked.

    “Um, that would be among them, yes sir.” Gowdy answered. “I don’t want the drama. I want the documents.”

  122. jason says:

    Didn’t Hillary get Trump elected by assuming she had the race won after compromising national security?”

    Could be.

    Or because she called half the country “deplorables’?

    Or because she didn’t visit Wisconsin ONCE during the campaign?

    Or because at least half her ads were attacking Trump’s character while she was married to Bill Clinton?

    Or because Trump actually worked his ass off during the campaign doing countless rallies while she gave interviews to MSM sycophants asking her questions like “which do you think will be your greatest achievement as president, saving the world from global warming, or world peace?

  123. DW says:

    Someone needs to compile a story of all the Clinton blunders going into the 2016 election.

    My favorite was the one I read about where the Clinton ground team in Iowa realized that Iowa was a lost cause the day before the election and so they loaded into busses to go to Michigan to help salvage that state, but when Clinton’s leadership in NY found out about it, they ordered the busses to turn around and go back to IA, because MI was safe and they didn’t want to look weak.

  124. jason says:

    Not to mention all the partisan polling morons like Sam Wang of Princeton Polling Consortium who was giving Hillary a 99% chance of winning.

    Wang attacked Nate Silverhack because he only gave her 700%.

  125. Tina says:

    Jason, the bigger question about the rooster is why did he flip?

    Was he wrong then, or is he wrong now?

    Maybe the rooster should have said prior to this, which I already linked well before your post, that he simply did not know.

    This also follows his typical pattern, run to the camera, appear angry or upset about a matter, and then ultimately fail to get his target. All smoke, no fire.

  126. jason says:

    Want a really good laugh?

    Forget Nate Silver. There’s a new king of the presidential election data mountain. His name is Sam Wang, Ph.D.

    Haven’t heard of him just yet? Don’t worry. You will. Because Wang has sailed True North all along, while Silver has been cautiously trying to tack his FiveThirtyEight data sailboat (weighted down with ESPN gold bars) through treacherous, Category-Five-level-hurricane headwinds in what has easily been the craziest presidential campaign in the modern political era.

    When the smoke clears on Tuesday—and it will clear—what will emerge is Wang and his Princeton Election Consortium website and calculations (which have been used, in part, to drive some of the election poll conclusions at The New York Times’ Upshot blog and *The Huffington Post’*s election site). What will be vindicated is precisely the sort of math approach that Silver once rode to fame and fortune.

    This year, Wang called the election at 8:55 PM on October 18. He promised to eat more than just his hat if Clinton loses: “It is totally over. If Trump wins more than 240 electoral votes, I will eat a bug,” Wang tweeted to his 23,000 followers. He expects Clinton to receive at least 298 electoral votes.

    So when the smoke clears on Tuesday; when enough non-white and female voters haven’t been harassed or intimidated enough to stay home; when Clinton crosses the finish line with something close to 300 Electoral College votes and a popular vote victory somewhere between two and five percentage points; and Nate Silver is telling his 1.7 million Twitter followers that he’d been right all along this election, Sam Wang will be standing tall above the fray, draped in his “median-based probability election” cloak.

    Long live the new election data king.”

    https://www.wired.com/2016/11/2016s-election-data-hero-isnt-nate-silver-sam-wang/

  127. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    There should be an important ruling by SCOTUS at 10 this morning. Will it be :
    1) The Janus Union Case?
    2) The Travel Ban Case?
    3) The Gerrymander Case?

    Stay Tuned!

  128. Robbie says:

    Can you imagine the outrage that would exist on FoxNews, talk radio, and in this forum if a foreign leader like Merkel attempted to meddle in American domestic affairs? There would be non-stop outrage.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    The people of Germany are turning against their leadership as migration is rocking the already tenuous Berlin coalition. Crime in Germany is way up. Big mistake made all over Europe in allowing millions of people in who have so strongly and violently changed their culture!

  129. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mwn
    With all the boohooing over the weekend about the “heartless” Trump, Rasmussen(less) has his approval/disapproval at 48/50,respectively, which is up a tick(approval) from Friday’s data.

  130. jason says:

    But he did eat the bug…with honey.

    “When Wang called the race for her in mid-October, he promised to eat an insect if Trump got more than 240 electoral votes (he should end up with 306).

    True to his word, Wang ate a honey-slathered cricket on CNN last weekend. After giving him a few days to digest, I called Wang up to ask what went wrong. We spoke about forecasting, hubris, and whether his overconfidence helped Trump win.

    Why were the predictions so far off?

    One [reason] is that this year that there was an unusually high number of undecided and third-party voters. And usually undecided voters will break approximately equally, but this year the evidence suggests that they broke in favor of Trump.

    For much of the campaign season, it looked like there was a substantive bloc of Republican voters who were not supporting Trump. If you look at polling error, the polling error was worst in red states. And so you put all that together, it suggests that those party loyalists came home in the end.”

  131. jason says:

    Notice the Amoral Scumbag always says “I don’t care about the immigration issue”.

    Except when the MSM attacks Trump on the immigration issue, then the Amoral Scumbag is suddenly all about immigration.

    Hilarious.

  132. mnw says:

    Sheep 133

    I noticed that. RAS is going to drop a sanctuary city poll this morning also

    If you read down below the POTUS JA numbers today, my take is that the boohooing ISN’T having much effect… so far. RAS reports that people are hip to the fact that illegal immigration leads to MORE illegal immigration.

  133. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    Agreed.
    Sotomayer writes today’s opinion in a criminal case(Rosales). In an indirect way, this is good news since she will not author any future decisions this SCOTUS term.

  134. Robbie says:

    I’d be interested to get Dblaikie’s view on Trump separating children from their parents on the border.

    Does that constitute yet another redemptive act by Trump to atone for his past lifestyle choices?

  135. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mwn
    SCOTUS punts on the WI gerrymander case because the Plaintiffs lacked standing. Remands the case.

  136. mnw says:

    SCOTUS liberals win in WI gerrymandering case, but narrow opinion merely sez plaintiffs lacked standing to challenge.

  137. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #138
    I hope DB does not reply until you explain your new found boohooing about the border situation based on the below link of photographs in 2015 from the TX Detention Ceter that Ronald Brownstein and the AP cried about yesterday.

    https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/06/18/why-didnt-you-care-then-brandon-darby-decimates-the-lefts-border-family-boohooing-in-one-epic-pic-thread/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

  138. Wobbles says:

    I’d be interested to get Dblaikie’s view on Trump separating children from their parents on the border.”

    Yes, I am VERY interested.

    Of course, I always say I don’t care about immigration, but maybe THIS can overturn the results of the election.

    I am always optimistic.

  139. Chicon says:

    Best way for an immigrant parent to NOT be separated from the kids? Come here legally.

    Don’t the children of citizens get separated from the kids if they go to jail?

  140. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag was never “interested” when Obama had exactly the same policy.

  141. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #140
    How so? SCOTUS also punted on the MD redistricting case.
    If A. Kennedy retires after this term and is replaced by another conservative Justice, these gerrymander cases will probably disappear.

  142. jason says:

    Exactly.

    It’s like putting your kids on the train tracks and then blaming the train for running them over.

  143. Chicon says:

    MNW and Sheeple – Kennedy did not join any of Kagan’s opinion.

  144. mnw says:

    Sheep

    I guess it wasn’t “liberals win”– more like a rain delay.

    U r certainly right about the effect of Kennedy retiring– provided GOP holds the Senate.

    I could easily envision a brave RINO or two voting against Trump’s next SCOTUS nominee– “putting country before party” — particularly if the DEMs flip the House. I have grave concerns about McCain’s wife going rogue, for example.

  145. mnw says:

    RE: separating children

    Another obvious way to prevent it would be to establish FAMILY shelters, i.e., where the entire family could live while they’re ‘asylum claim’ (GAG) is pending.

    Trump has endorsed this idea forever, but the DEMs want none of it. They LIKE the status quo– for political reasons.

  146. Phil says:

    144

    Exactly. Robbie is such a troll. It would be nice if he was at least consistent. At least he now has become more of a drive by and hasn’t been lingering with his drivel.

  147. Cash Cow TM says:

    WV IS LEAST PSYCHOPATHIC STATE!

    “Connecticut wins the dubious award of most psychopathic state in the US, followed by California in second, and New Jersey third. New York and Wyoming tie for joint fourth place, followed by Maine. The least psychopathic state is West Virginia, followed by Vermont, Tennessee, North Carolina, and New Mexico.”

    https://qz.com/1307670/us-states-with-the-most-psychopaths/

  148. Robbie says:

    Jason fraud?

    @GeraldFSeib

    A strange paradox is unfolding in Washington right now: As President Donald Trump acts less and less like a traditional Republican, traditional Republicans have become more and more afraid to cross him. https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-trump-veers-from-traditional-gop-he-bends-it-toward-him-1529331685 … via @WSJ

  149. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 10:33 am
    Amoral Scumbag was never “interested” when Obama had exactly the same policy.

    – Never forget. Jason fraud calls me an amoral scumbag because I object to Trump’s lifestyle of having sex with a porn star just three months after Melania had their son.

    On the flip side, I call Jason fraud a fraud because he hated Trump every single day of the 2016 campaign process, refused to vote for Trump, and left the party over Trump only to end up supporting ALMOST everything Trump does.

  150. jason says:

    Is Rob Reiner smarter than we thought?

    “Director Rob Reiner denounced Robert De Niro and other celebrities for their remarks against President Trump, saying it only helps the president.

    During an exclusive interview with The Hill’s new TV show “Rising,” which aired on Wednesday, Reiner addressed the controversy surrounding actor Robert De Niro’s “F—Trump” speech during the Tony Awards on Sunday.

    De Niro called the president a “f—ing idiot” and a “f—ing fool,” which was met with a standing ovation.

    “You’re helping Trump by saying ‘F— Trump,’ because he can say ‘look at these people, these elitists,’ ” Reiner told “Rising” co-hosts Krystal Ball and Buck Sexton.

    Reiner said he thinks celebrities are ultimately hurting Democrats when they go on expletive-ridden rants against Trump.

  151. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 10:35 am
    Exactly.
    It’s like putting your kids on the train tracks and then blaming the train for running them over.

    – Jason fraud, who has long been an advocate of immigration reform, supports Trump using separating immigrant children from their parents at the border so they can be used as a bargaining chip by glorious dear leader Trump in negotiations.

    Newsflash to Jason fraud and the immigration mouth breathers. Trump doesn’t want a deal. He wants to use this as a campaign issue in 2018.

  152. Chicon says:

    151 – he’s now gone batsh!t crazy, like MD and Author.

  153. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 18, 2018 at 10:52 am
    144
    Exactly. Robbie is such a troll. It would be nice if he was at least consistent. At least he now has become more of a drive by and hasn’t been lingering with his drivel.

    – A troll? Ha! Better than whatever you are these days. Mu wall! Mu deep state! Muh silent coup!

    Unlike 90% of this board, I have remained consistent in my positions. I have long supported comprehensive immigration reform. I think that’s the only way the Republican Party can survive in the future. As much as some of the members of the “Steve King Caucus” don’t want to accept this, the demographics of the country are changing. Best get on board.

    Again, unlike 90% of this forum, my views on the issues and Trump have remained the same as they were in 2015 when he kicked off his campaign. I didn’t change them just because Trump won in a fluke as people like Jason fraud did.

  154. jason says:

    ump only to end up supporting ALMOST everything Trump does.”

    Amoral Scumbag is moving the goalposts?

    According to him I used to support Trump on “everything”.

    Just for Amoral Scumbag’s education and so he stops lying here is what I support Trump on:

    – Judicial appointments
    – Taxes
    – Rebuilding the military
    – North Korea initiative
    – Pulling out of Paris Accords and opposition to climate change alarmism
    – Energy independence
    – War on MSM liberal, fake, dishonest, partisan news.
    – Defense of American exceptionalism
    – Enforcing border security

    Here is what I don’t support Trump on:

    – Protectionist and isolationist rhetoric
    – AFL-CIO agenda on trade
    – Hostility to Nafta
    – Physical wall
    – Attacks on the Republican leadership
    – Attacks on McCain, Corker, Flake, etc.
    – Attacks on leaders of allied countries like Canada, France and Germany
    – Trillion dollar infrastructure boondoggle idea

    If that is supporting Trump on “almost” anything, fine with me.

    GFY.

  155. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:03 am
    151 – he’s now gone batsh!t crazy, like MD and Author.

    – LOL! Batsh!t crazy is a conspiratorial idiot like you who believed the DNC murdered Seth Rich and that Obama used the British spy agency to eavesdrop on Trump.

    By the way, you still refuse to admit you fell for two awful conspiracies. Why? Because you still believe the DNC murdered Seth Rich?

  156. jason says:

    sing separating immigrant children”

    You mean illegal immigrants right?

  157. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 10:33 am
    Amoral Scumbag was never “interested” when Obama had exactly the same policy.

    – Shorter Jason fraud – “Obama did it too so what’s the big deal?”

    Pure whataboutism.

  158. jason says:

    Hey Amoral Scumbag, I still support comprehensive immigration reform.

    I also support border security and am smart enough to understand that the Dems are using “children” as a propaganda tool.

  159. Chicon says:

    159 – seems accurate from my recollection of your consistent positions (most I agree with, a few I don’t).

    Good luck, though, having Squeaker Robbie change his tune.

  160. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:08 am
    ump only to end up supporting ALMOST everything Trump does.”
    Amoral Scumbag is moving the goalposts?
    According to him I used to support Trump on “everything”.

    – And because Jason fraud is a lying liar, he omits the fact I wrote I left out the word ALMOST.

    But that would ruin Jason fraud’s efforts to deflect from the fact he hated Trump everyday of the campaign, refused to vote for him, and left the party over him only to support ALMOST everything Trump does.

  161. Chicon says:

    Whataboutism = DO NOT even raise Mt own hypocrisy.

  162. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:10 am
    sing separating immigrant children”
    You mean illegal immigrants right?

    – Oh. So the fact they crossed the border illegally means it’s ok for children to be separated form their parents and kept in cages? Got it.

  163. Chicon says:

    My, not Mt.

  164. jason says:

    – Shorter Jason fraud – “Obama did it too so what’s the big deal?”’

    I am just pointing out the fact that you are an Amoral Scumbag that never “cared” about immmigration and certainly never objected to Obama’s policies.

    Now that the Dems are using the same policy Obama had as propaganda to attack Trump you have a sudden “interest” in it.

    Typical of Amoral Scumbag hypocrisy.

  165. jason says:

    Amoral scumbag cares as much for illegal immigrant children as he did for Roy Moore’s “victims”. Or Trump’s “immoral” behavior.

    He would sell his own mother and sister into sexual bondage if he thought it would be damaging to Trump.

    Pure scum.

  166. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:13 am
    Hey Amoral Scumbag, I still support comprehensive immigration reform.
    I also support border security and am smart enough to understand that the Dems are using “children” as a propaganda tool.

    – As I wrote the other day, Trumpism must be something akin to made cow disease. It eats away at your brain. That’s the only way someone could conclude that, even though it’s glorious dear leader Trump who has decided to separate children from their parents so he can use them as pawns in a negotiation, it’s really the Democrats who are using children as propaganda tools.

    If only the semi-rational 2015 version of Jason could see the 2018 version. He would no doubt conclude someone had stolen his screen name.

  167. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:14 am
    Whataboutism = DO NOT even raise Mt own hypocrisy.

    – Says the guy who believes the DNC murdered Seth Rich.

    Come on, Trump troll. Tell me why you won’t disavow that conspiracy. Is it because you still believe it?

  168. Chicon says:

    Lol. Ok, Squeaker.

  169. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:14 am
    Whataboutism = DO NOT even raise Mt own hypocrisy.

    – Also, how would you know what I have believed in the past on this forum? You didn’t show up until late on election night.

    Oh, that’s right. You laughably claimed you lurked in this forum going to back to 2004, but never chose to post until Trump won.

  170. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:16 am
    – Shorter Jason fraud – “Obama did it too so what’s the big deal?”’
    I am just pointing out the fact that you are an Amoral Scumbag that never “cared” about immmigration and certainly never objected to Obama’s policies.

    – And I’m just pointing out that every word you just wrote is a lie. Although, that’s par for the course for you these days. I have long supported comprehensive immigration reform. That’s one reason why I supported Jeb Bush. Or don’t you remember me being attacked for supposedly supporting “open borders”?

  171. Chicon says:

    This must gall the rabid anti-Trumpers like Flyboy.

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/235739/satisfaction-direction-reaches-year-high.aspx

    Note that the number is higher than at any point in the previous Administration.

  172. Phil says:

    Nothing “supposedly” about it.

  173. Tina says:

    Notice the Jebot was not concerned about this, which dates back to at least two other administrations.

    Fake concern, much like the Russian hoax.

  174. Phil says:

    Dosn’t Care about illegal immigration – now apparently does. I don’t know. It’s hard to keep up.

  175. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:18 am
    Amoral scumbag cares as much for illegal immigrant children as he did for Roy Moore’s “victims”. Or Trump’s “immoral” behavior.
    He would sell his own mother and sister into sexual bondage if he thought it would be damaging to Trump.
    Pure scum.

    – Well, since I don’t see things solely as Republican vs. Democrat as you seem to do these days, I’m not surprised you would get my views wrong.

    Roy Moore was an embarrassment and deserved to lose. In fact, I’m glad he lost. Now, Republicans in the Senate won’t have to spend the next three years defending every bit of idiocy that comes out of his mouth. He sexually assaulted a 14 year old girl. I know you were ok with seeing someone who sexually assaulted a young girl win a Senate race, but I wasn’t. By the way, how’s good ole Roy’s lawsuit against the girl coming?

    Second, I absolutely object to Trump’s personal behavior. He’s a scumbag who has treated women like trash. There’s no excusing the multiple affairs he had just as there’s no way to excuse the demeaning language he has used, even as president, to describe woman. His personal behavior may be ok for you since he won with a R after his name, but it’s not for me and I suspect it would not have been ok for the 2015 version of you.

    Finally, I don’t support illegal border crossers, but I also don’t support treating these people as though they are German saboteurs in the 1940’s. Separating children from their parents is immoral. The 2015 version of you would have agreed. But now, I guess so long as it owns the libs, you’re cool with it.

  176. Tina says:

    The Jebot also likes ms13.

  177. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:28 am
    Nothing “supposedly” about it.

    – See, Jason fraud.

  178. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:33 am
    Dosn’t Care about illegal immigration – now apparently does. I don’t know. It’s hard to keep up.

    – Yes, Trump isn’t interested in getting an agreement right now on immigration. he wants to stoke the fires of the reactionary base (case in point, you) and hope it motivates the Republican populist base voters to show up on election day and save the party from a significant House loss.

  179. Tina says:

    Looks like Mullah Merkel is close to having to quit office.

    Failed Germany with her open borders fiasco.

  180. mnw says:

    MO SEN

    Sky Queen has leaked an internal which purports to show that she’s ahead of Hawley 47-41.

    Even the not-so-secret DEMs at RRH don’t buy it. Plus, how bad is it when an incumbent is under 50%, & thinks that’s something to BRAG about?

  181. Robbie says:

    Trump may be a lot of bad things, but the one thing he knows all too well is the Republican populist base will never accept any immigration deal, regardless of how stringent it is. There is no pleasing the Ann Coulters and Steve Kings of the world short of MASS deportations. And as we’ve seen time and again, Trump is extremely protective of his base’s needs and desires.

    The moment Trump comes even close to deal (as was the case last Fall when Democrats agreed to the wall for DACA), the reactionaries sound the alarm and the deal gets scuttled. The same thing happened again last January when Trump held the reality TV show immigration meeting.

    So, yes, Trump isn’t interested in settling the immigration debate right now. He’s not remotely concerned about the children being separated from their parents at the border. Why? Because, despite all of the negative publicity in the press, he knows the populist base of the party loves the tough stance and he thinks, by continuing to stoke (not solve) the issue, he can use this as an effective base turnout driver in 2018.

  182. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart Retweeted
    Mark Krikorian
    Mark Krikorian
    @MarkSKrikorian
    Well, whaddya know — Flake & McCain introduced a resolution in 2015 supporting “a zero-tolerance approach, including criminally prosecuting illegal border crossers” (link: https://www.flake.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2015/3/flake-mccain-introduce-resolution-on-operation-streamline) flake.senate.gov/public/index.c… They didn’t mention a special exemption for anyone with a kid in tow.
    5:49 AM · Jun 18, 2018

    Run roh, flakey and McCain supported the cages program.

  183. Chicon says:

    Tina, the cages only became important in January of 2017. Sqeaker was appalled by the practice during the Obama administration, but simply forgot to mention it.

  184. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:47 am
    Tina, the cages only became important in January of 2017. Sqeaker was appalled by the practice during the Obama administration, but simply forgot to mention it.

    – God forbid I would hold my party to a higher standard than the Democrats.

  185. Tina says:

    Yeah, we know the Jebot never was concerned until now.
    The Jebot bought the cage program, then realized, the picture was from 2014.

    The Jebot is like soros who supported the nazis at one time,

  186. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:51 am
    Yeah, we know the Jebot never was concerned until now.
    The Jebot bought the cage program, then realized, the picture was from 2014.
    The Jebot is like soros who supported the nazis at one time,

    – Bless your heart, Tinfoil.

    A Texas paper posted a photo taken from YESTERDAY showing children living in large cages.

  187. Chicon says:

    191 – I thought you don’t see things as Republican v. Democrat? (181, above – I don’t see things solely as Republican vs. Democrat as you seem to do these days). Now you admit it is only a big deal when your party does it.

    TDS in action.

  188. Phil says:

    Robbie is worried about Republican losses in November. Who knew? The guy who on a daily basis cites every talking point that comes out of the mouth of every left wing hack writer in Washington is concerned about the Republican Party. Yesterday he gave us Philip Rucker and Ron Bernstein, LOL – of course those two pillars of straight down the middle objectivity are also “concerned” about Republican election.

  189. dblaikie says:

    Robbie’s selective moral outrage is such rich hypocrisy! Let’s see Bill Clinton (rape no less) I don’t hear him condemning him. John F. Kennedy multiple affairs where is the moral outrage. Lyndon B. Johnson, affairs all over the place where is the moral outrage. I could go on and on. The difference between BC, JFK, and LBJ they were committing those act WHILE IN OFFICE.

    Like most, I knew before I went into the voting booth that Trump’s past was not good. Frankly I was rather queasy after I voted for him. But I couldn’t vote for Hillary and I was not going to waste my vote on some kind of pointless protest.

    But since he has been in office I have been happy about most of his policies, even though I am very unsure of what his motive are on Trade. And I believe, until someone can prove other wise that Trump has put the past behind him. Frankly we should all hope that is true — even you Robbie. But your visceral hatred is so deep I don’t see it happening.

  190. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:54 am
    191 – I thought you don’t see things as Republican v. Democrat? (181, above – I don’t see things solely as Republican vs. Democrat as you seem to do these days). Now you admit it is only a big deal when your party does it.
    TDS in action.

    – You’re right chiclown. I don’t see every issue (like sexual assault) as a Republican vs. Democrat.

    But I do believe in holding the members of my party to a higher standard than the Democrats.

  191. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:56 am
    Robbie is worried about Republican losses in November. Who knew? The guy who on a daily basis cites every talking point that comes out of the mouth of every left wing hack writer in Washington is concerned about the Republican Party. Yesterday he gave us Philip Rucker and Ron Bernstein, LOL – of course those two pillars of straight down the middle objectivity are also “concerned” about Republican election.

    – Poor, Phil. He’s got nothing but “muh liberal media” to sling around.

  192. GPO says:

    Suggestion:-

    Do Not Feed The Troll

  193. Phil says:

    So now I’m a reactionary. I’m moving up in the world. At least Robbie’s no longer inferring I’m racist.

    Progress. I’ll take it.

  194. Phil says:

    Hey, flyboy. Quit quoting them and I won’t “sling” it.

  195. Tina says:

    Yeah, a photo from 2014 that you fell for.

  196. mnw says:

    Food Stamp (“SNAP”) use at 8-yr low. Two million fewer food stamp users under PDT.

    Apparently, this decline is mostly the result of a USDA crackdown on fraud.* (Who knew there was fraud in THAT program?)

    *crackdown on fraud? Why that rayciss bastid!

  197. Tina says:

    ld J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    33m
    Comey gave Strozk his marching orders. Mueller is Comey’s best friend. Witch Hunt!

    This is the second tweet that trump has ever mentioned Fuhrer Mulehead.

  198. mnw says:

    GPO 199

    I’ve been preaching that for years. Waste of time.

  199. Chicon says:

    Nice try, Squeaker, but the topic in all relevant posts was the kids in cages. You allege that you morals makes it a larger issue than party. But you said nothing about it during the previous Administration. Both cannot be true.

    What is true? That you don’t care about the kids or the issue – if you did, you’d have raised it years ago, and you’d be mad at Flake and McCain, too. You didn’t, so it is obvious you just found something to hammer Trump about. Hence, severe TDS, with psychotic features.

    Who thinks I’m wrong?

  200. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    June 18, 2018 at 11:57 am
    Robbie’s selective moral outrage is such rich hypocrisy! Let’s see Bill Clinton (rape no less) I don’t hear him condemning him. John F. Kennedy multiple affairs where is the moral outrage. Lyndon B. Johnson, affairs all over the place where is the moral outrage. I could go on and on. The difference between BC, JFK, and LBJ they were committing those act WHILE IN OFFICE.
    Like most, I knew before I went into the voting booth that Trump’s past was not good. Frankly I was rather queasy after I voted for him. But I couldn’t vote for Hillary and I was not going to waste my vote on some kind of pointless protest.
    But since he has been in office I have been happy about most of his policies, even though I am very unsure of what his motive are on Trade. And I believe, until someone can prove other wise that Trump has put the past behind him. Frankly we should all hope that is true — even you Robbie. But your visceral hatred is so deep I don’t see it happening.

    – This forum didn’t exist in 1998, but I absolutely supported Clinton’s impeachment and though the Senate should have removed him from office. His behavior was a disgrace and embarrassed the presidency and the country. That said, his presidency is over. What he did has nothing to do with Trump unless, of course, you’re someone like me who is holding Trump to the same standard I held Clinton.

    Second, I have no problem with people who voted for Trump knowing full well who he was. What I object to is the desire of Trump supporters to say conservative judges or a tax cut somehow mitigate his awful behavior, both before his presidency and during his presidency.

    What I’m looking for is the way Bitterlaw has handled Trump. He voted for Trump because of SCOTUS, but hasn’t refrained from criticizing Trump’s pathetic behavior. Regrettably though, the view here seems to be that because Trump won with a R after his name he can act however he chooses and criticism of him is tantamount to disloyalty.

  201. Robbie says:

    GPO says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:00 pm
    Suggestion:-
    Do Not Feed The Troll

    – That’s why I rarely pay attention to you.

    Important to note though that disagreement with Trump, a birther who was a Democrat until 2009, is considered trolling.

  202. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:02 pm
    Hey, flyboy. Quit quoting them and I won’t “sling” it.

    – Oh, flyboy.

    Quit flapping your Ted Cruz lovin gums about the deep state and silent coup.

  203. Phil says:

    Looks like Gowdy has had enough of the deep state himself. Hell, I thought he had become the Democrats favorite Republican. Just another Ted Cruz lovin Trumpie I suppose. Maybe Rucker and Bernstein can set him straight.

  204. Chicon says:

    209 – typical liberal, trying to tell others what not to say….

  205. Tina says:

    Trump was president in 2014.

    Jebot, post haze

  206. Tina says:

    Phil, even Mitch McConnell now wants Mulehead to finish up.

  207. jason says:

    Robbie’s selective moral outrage is such rich hypocrisy!”

    Yes, but there is nothing new about it.

    It’s the same hypocrisy he used against Romney and everyone not named Jeb.

    Same M.O.

    With Romney, it was Bain Capital killing widows.

    It’s all fake.

  208. jason says:

    Important to note though that disagreement with Trump, ”

    “Disagreement”

    LOL

    How about abject, irrational, biased, dishonest, pathological hatred?

    Amoral scumbag.

  209. Phil says:

    Wonder if Robbie has written that campaign check to Beto yet. Gotta take that reactionary Ted Cruz out you know.

  210. Chicon says:

    216 – not sure, but there could be a rumor that he’s gonna fly over Cruz’s house and drop some blue ice…

  211. jason says:

    What I object to is the desire of Trump supporters to say conservative judges or a tax cut somehow mitigate his awful behavior”

    Really.

    What I object to is trying to pretend Trump’s objectionable “behavior” is somehow more important than the country.

    And of course it has been more than “just” conservative judges. Or taxes.

    But yeah, one SCOTUS majority judge is worth one billion Mika face tweets.

  212. Tina says:

    Did the Jebot fall for the picture from 2014 or the picture of a kid put in a cage, as part of the protest.

    Dand s has an article, but I cannot post it here

  213. Wobbles says:

    Wonder if Robbie has written that campaign check to Beto yet. Gotta take that reactionary Ted Cruz out you know.”

    Yes, I have.

    I support a moonbat like Beto because Trump is not a real conservative.

    Makes sense, right?

  214. Tina says:

    The protest picture of kids put in cages was taken from a Dallas protest.

    So, which pic did the Jebot fall for?

  215. Wobbles says:

    Did the Jebot fall for the picture from 2014 or the picture of a kid put in a cage”

    No, I knew it was from 2014.

    But in 2014 I didn’t care.

    Now I do.

  216. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:18 pm
    209 – typical liberal, trying to tell others what not to say….

    – Typical conspiracist. Refusing to admit that the DNC didn’t have Seth Rich murdered.

  217. Tina says:

    The shelter, a converted Walmart, is run by a non-profit and has licensed childcare personnel in it and it houses 1469 boys ages 10-17. 90 percent came by themselves, they were not separated from parents.

    From NPR:

    Though the boys are confined in this 250,000 square foot facility, they don’t look unhappy. They waved, smiled and said “hola” to a group of visiting journalists. Adults are everywhere. The ratio is one counselor to eight children, to keep them in line and watch for behavioral and emotional problems.

    On Wednesday, the boys were shooting baskets, kicking soccer balls, playing video games, sitting in classrooms learning U.S. government, learning Tai Chi, and chowing down on a bland meal of chicken and mixed vegetables. On the walls of the facility are murals of U.S. presidents, patriotic slogans, and lots of Pokemon posters.

  218. Tina says:

    They are separated because 90 percent came along, when illegally entering the country.

  219. Phil says:

    He probably didn’t fall for any of it. Tina. Fact is, he doesn’t care if it’s accurate or not any more than his butt buddies in the MSM care.

  220. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:24 pm
    Robbie’s selective moral outrage is such rich hypocrisy!”
    Yes, but there is nothing new about it.
    It’s the same hypocrisy he used against Romney and everyone not named Jeb.
    Same M.O.
    With Romney, it was Bain Capital killing widows.
    It’s all fake.

    – I see Jason fraud is lying again. Romney ran a really bad campaign and that’s why he lost. I pointed it out, but the snowflakes like Jason fraud just couldn’t accept it in real time.

    You know who also believes Romney ran a bad campaign in 2012, Mitt Romney.

  221. jason says:

    So now I’m a reactionary.”

    Very cool, Phil.

    You would get points if you were an A-hole.

  222. Chicon says:

    Flyboy responded to 211, but not 206. Wonder why?

  223. Phil says:

    Yeah, if only Jeb had run in 2012. The party could have been saved.

  224. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:28 pm
    Wonder if Robbie has written that campaign check to Beto yet. Gotta take that reactionary Ted Cruz out you know.

    – The pathetic nature of your argument is so unlike you, but this is the age of Trump.

    I think Ted Cruz is a fake, but I would without any hesitation vote for him if I lived in Texas and I would have happily voted for him in 2016 had he been the nominee. Could you have said the same for supposedly open borders Jeb?

  225. Tina says:

    The activist should be arrested for child abuse.

  226. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:31 pm
    What I object to is the desire of Trump supporters to say conservative judges or a tax cut somehow mitigate his awful behavior”
    Really.
    What I object to is trying to pretend Trump’s objectionable “behavior” is somehow more important than the country.
    And of course it has been more than “just” conservative judges. Or taxes.
    But yeah, one SCOTUS majority judge is worth one billion Mika face tweets.

    – The only time anyone here, other than CG, Bitter, or me, criticizes Trump is only after we have all but shamed people to do so.

  227. Phil says:

    Over Obama?

    You bet your a$$.

  228. Wobbles says:

    Romney ran a really bad campaign”

    Bad campaign….

    Yeah, that is why I regurgitated every MSM hit piece on him here. The dog, the Cadillacs, the horse, Bain capital, the elevator, you name it. No lie, no attack by the MSM on his character or his family was too low for me.

    That is why I called for a ridiculous brokered convention to stop him.

    That is why I said I would be here to celebrate Obama’s win.

    Because he ran a “bad campaign”.

  229. Tina says:

    It is time for Jebot to tag out and tag in cg’.

    Cg can again embarrass himself about trump firing comedy because of thoughts and a letter that Fuhrer Mulehead has.

    This despite the letters and testimony from swampstein, sessions, and the findings in the Ig report about comedy.

  230. mnw says:

    Gallup now has Trump JA @ 45%, up from 42% last week.

    Remember!!! Rasmussen 48%? GARBAGE POLLSTER! Gallup 45%? RESPECTED POLLSTER!

  231. Tina says:

    Cg can then claim what does comedy’s poor performance have to do with being fired?

  232. Tina says:

    Basically, add ten to each poll result, per Larry sabato.

    He is on his way to being reflected and winning 350 Evs, or close to it,

    He helped by ds passing fake photos from 2014 or a recent one from a protest whereby the illegals pit a child in a cage.

  233. Phil says:

    Kimmel will cry like a stuck pig tonight about
    “the children”

    Can’t wait.

  234. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:40 pm
    He probably didn’t fall for any of it. Tina. Fact is, he doesn’t care if it’s accurate or not any more than his butt buddies in the MSM care.

    – Here is a story dated yesterday with actual pictures of children being house in large cages. But I guess since it didn’t come from a snowflake news safe space, it’s a lie.

    Here is the first paragraph –

    McALLEN, Texas (AP) — Inside an old warehouse in South Texas, hundreds of children wait in a series of cages created by metal fencing. One cage had 20 children inside. Scattered about are bottles of water, bags of chips and large foil sheets intended to serve as blankets.

    https://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/06/hundreds_of_children_kept_in_c.html

  235. Chicon says:

    233 – one of your most incorrect statements ever, which is saying something. First, every regular poster objects to things Trump has done. Second, nobody here says or does ANYTHING because a dolt like you or CG shamed them.

  236. Tina says:

    I wonder if kümmel who lost to Cruz in a basketball game will advocate for the arrest of the illegal immigration activist that put his child in a cage.

  237. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:42 pm
    Flyboy responded to 211, but not 206. Wonder why?

    – Chiclown won’t respond to the posts about him believing the DNC murdered Seth Rich. Wonder why?

  238. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:44 pm
    Over Obama?
    You bet your a$$.

    – Good.

  239. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:45 pm
    Romney ran a really bad campaign”
    Bad campaign….
    Yeah, that is why I regurgitated every MSM hit piece on him here. The dog, the Cadillacs, the horse, Bain capital, the elevator, you name it. No lie, no attack by the MSM on his character or his family was too low for me.

    – I’m impressed Jason fraud thinks my complaints about Romney in this forum hurt his campaign. I wish I had that power. If I did, Trump would have lost the primary.

  240. Chicon says:

    Good news, Phil, you’ve got his approval. I suggest a shower.

  241. Tina says:

    Nice picture of a processing or detention center.

    I do not see any kids in cells, a la 2014 obumbler.

  242. Robbie says:

    Good job everyone.

    S.V. Dáte
    @svdate

    Poll: Kim Jong Un has higher approval among Republicans than Pelosi

  243. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:53 pm
    Good news, Phil, you’ve got his approval. I suggest a shower.

    – Meanwhile, a shower will never cleanse you of your conspiratorial beliefs such as the DNC murder Seth Rich.

  244. mnw says:

    Tina

    Gallup also reported today that “direction of the country: right track” has reached a 12-year high. Best since 2005.

  245. Chicon says:

    Flyboy’s deflections confirm that he doesn’t care about the Cage Kids; he only wants topics to use against Trump. Remember, his morals make this a larger issue than party politics. And he thinks Jason is a fraud? Talk about projection…

  246. Tina says:

    I heart Piglosi

    -jebot

  247. Tgca says:

    207

    Hi Robbie:

    I’m not sure if you’re referring to Trump’s extramarital affairs or flings as your issue with his “awful behavior.” If that is your main concern, then he stands in bad company with approximately 40% or more of his predecessors. If that standard is applied, those should have also not been elected or impeached.

    I think Trump has been as good as. if not better than other GOP presidents in the past 100 years.

    Yes, he is immature and defensive with his tweets but that’s just a facet of his personality and that is not going to change so as long as he is focusing on the right policies, that is all I care about.

    …and I’m an independent for a dozen years, so it has nothing to do with an “R” after his name. I would have voted for Trump over most Republicans if he had run as an Indy in the 2016 election, as I thought it was time for some change and he seemed to be offering some legit opportunities for change that the establishment candidates on both sides refused to address.

    So though I know it’s frustrating for you, I respect your view and ask you consider the same for others. Just because we disagree don’t mean we’re sycophants.

  248. Tina says:

    When adult illegal aliens are prosecuted for breaking fed law, they are temporarily separated from their child—same way any adult American citizen is separated from their child when arrested for breaking the law.

    Dhs secretary.

    The jebots and there open border activists want special rights for illegals vs legals. Sad.

  249. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 18, 2018 at 12:58 pm
    Flyboy’s deflections confirm that he doesn’t care about the Cage Kids; he only wants topics to use against Trump. Remember, his morals make this a larger issue than party politics. And he thinks Jason is a fraud? Talk about projection…

    – I have to say, this nonsense is Jonesy worthy from last Summer. By the way, where did Jonesy troll go? Did his handlers at the troll send him to a new forum?

    Separating children from their parents at the border is grotesque and immoral. It’s a stain on the reputation of the United States. And it would be a stain whether GWB, Obama, or Trump did it.

    Trump should immediately reverse this decision.

  250. mnw says:

    The entire ‘cage kids’ flare up is a really serious DEM attempt to see if Trump can be rolled– to see if he’ll go wobbly.

  251. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    June 18, 2018 at 1:05 pm
    The entire ‘cage kids’ flare up is a really serious DEM attempt to see if Trump can be rolled– to see if he’ll go wobbly.

    – So the children being kept in the large cages are actually crisis actors and none of this is real?

  252. Wobbles says:

    Gallup now has Trump JA @ 45%, up from 42% last week.”

    Let me the first to move the goalposts.

    Forget what I said about Rs holding the House if Trump got to 45%.

    My new parameter is the generic vote intention.

    If that changes we will go to Plan C.

    Whatever it takes, I want Rs to lose because I think it hurts Trump.

    I am a real Republican, that’s why I want the Dems to win.

  253. Chicon says:

    256 – then why are you only now expressing this “outrage? Why not during previous Administrations?

  254. mnw says:

    A new WI SEN poll shows Nicholson handily winning the GOP primary, by 2-1, but with a lot of undecideds.

  255. Robbie says:

    Trump and his populist base are fighting a losing battle.

    Josh Robin
    @joshrobin

    New poll:
    STOP TAKING THE KIDS, 66 PERCENT OF U.S. VOTERS SAY,
    QUINNIPIAC UNIVERSITY NATIONAL POLL FINDS;
    SUPPORT FOR DREAMERS IS 79 PERCENT

  256. Tina says:

    I love a crisis.

    Jebot

  257. jason says:

    Poll: Kim Jong Un has higher approval among Republicans than Pelosi”

    LOL

    I guess they understand she would do more damage to their interests as Speaker than he would as Dictator.

  258. ssq says:

    A new WI SEN poll shows Nicholson”

    I would vote for him.

    I LOVE his movies.

  259. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    June 18, 2018 at 1:12 pm
    Gallup now has Trump JA @ 45%, up from 42% last week.”
    Let me the first to move the goalposts.
    Forget what I said about Rs holding the House if Trump got to 45%.
    My new parameter is the generic vote intention.

    – I see Jason fraud is doing some more lying. Fortunately, I’m here to correct his consistent lying.

    Last year I wrote, if Trump was above 45% in the RCP AVERAGE, not in just a random poll here or there.

    But nice try, Jason fraud.

  260. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart
    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    1h
    If I could ask Horowtiz one question, it would be, if there was no bias that affected anything, why was ALL the bias in one direction?

    And why is there bias training at the fib? Is Eric holder conducting the fib training.

    Why did the fib leaders collude with the clintins?

  261. jason says:

    SUPPORT FOR DREAMERS IS 79 PERCENT”

    This is not news, this number has been fairly constant.

    And of course, just because you support a solution for the dreamers, like I do, doesn’t mean you support open borders.

  262. jason says:

    Last year I wrote, if Trump was above 45% in the RCP AVERAGE, not in just a random poll here or there.”

    LOL, Amoral Scumbag is running out of lies…

    Rasmussen is TRASH, now GALLUP is RANDOM.

    Can’t wait for the “definition” for the next poll over 45%.

  263. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 18, 2018 at 1:13 pm
    256 – then why are you only now expressing this “outrage? Why not during previous Administrations?

    – You know what else I didn’t express outrage over, chiclown? Teapot Dome.

  264. jason says:

    And the RCP AVERAGE is now… drum roll

    44.3%

    But that is not 45%, Republicans are still doomed.

  265. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 1:20 pm
    Last year I wrote, if Trump was above 45% in the RCP AVERAGE, not in just a random poll here or there.”
    LOL, Amoral Scumbag is running out of lies…
    Rasmussen is TRASH, now GALLUP is RANDOM.
    Can’t wait for the “definition” for the next poll over 45%.

    – Wrong again, Jason fraud. I specifically said the RCP average and you know that.

  266. Tina says:

    Speaking of crimes against children

    Whet did the fib agent cited in the Ig report mean by crimes against children, when referring to wiener?

  267. jason says:

    You know what else I didn’t express outrage over, chiclown? Teapot Dome.

    Yes Chicon, because 2014, 2015 and 2016 was SOOOOOO
    long ago.

    Give Amoral scumbag a break, he didn’t really “care” about immigration then.

    He cares about it now. Nothing to do with Trump, he just developed an interest in it yesterday, pure coincidence. Nothing to do with the MSM narrative either, he woke up yesterday outraged, I tell you, outraged at the treatment of illegal children.

  268. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 1:23 pm
    And the RCP AVERAGE is now… drum roll
    44.3%
    But that is not 45%, Republicans are still doomed.

    – I’ll stick with what I wrote last year, Jason fraud. If glorious dear leader Trump is above 45% in the RCP average ON ELECTION day, I think Republican will hold the House.

  269. jason says:

    I specifically said the RCP average”

    You did?

    So we are at .7% away from keeping the House?

    Who knew?

  270. NYCmike says:

    “Did Robbie read this one?”

    -NO.

    Next question.

  271. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 1:25 pm
    You know what else I didn’t express outrage over, chiclown? Teapot Dome.
    Yes Chicon, because 2014, 2015 and 2016 was SOOOOOO
    long ago.
    Give Amoral scumbag a break, he didn’t really “care” about immigration then.
    He cares about it now. Nothing to do with Trump, he just developed an interest in it yesterday, pure coincidence. Nothing to do with the MSM narrative either, he woke up yesterday outraged, I tell you, outraged at the treatment of illegal children.

    – I care about because it is an immoral proactive, regardless of whether done by a Republican or a Democrat.

    You, on the other hand, don’t care about it because Trump is in charge and has a R after his name.

    Of course, you also supported good ole Roy so matters of morality aren’t your strong point.

  272. jason says:

    f glorious dear leader Trump is above 45% in the RCP average ON ELECTION day, ”

    Ahhhhh…on ELECTION DAY?

    Amoral scumbag moves the goalposts again?

    So all the current polls are completely irrelevant?

    I am a genius, I predicted that if Trump got rto 45% we would move to Plan C.

    Bingo.

  273. Chicon says:

    Jason, it is now irrefutable, given his posts today. And you’re the fraud, eh?

  274. NYCmike says:

    If Robbie isn’t dooming, he is glooming!

    The more he yaps, the better I feel about November.

  275. jason says:

    I love it, the Amoral Scumbag, who has the moral compass of a gnat, is questioning MY morality?

  276. NYCmike says:

    Seth Rich is being mentioned AGAIN……some pilot is losing another argument.

  277. NYCmike says:

    What immoral actions has Trump committed since being elected President?

    Actually, since he started the campaign?

    For such a terrible guy, he is pretty disciplined when he needs to be.

  278. Tina says:

    Yeah, it’s immoral that the Mexican corrupt gubment does nothing to prevent illegals from crossing over.

  279. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 18, 2018 at 1:29 pm
    “Did Robbie read this one?”
    -NO.
    Next question.

    – I was worried a discussion about Trump’s immigration tactics would go by without NYCmike being able to chime in and defend them and then pivot to support of the RAISE Act.

  280. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie
    This photograph from the Daily Mail is something you will cherish forever. Please print, frame and hang on the wall over your bed.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5856071/Is-hair-fluffy-South-Carolina-man-snaps-photo-cloud-looks-like-TRUMP.html

  281. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 18, 2018 at 1:30 pm
    I love it, the Amoral Scumbag, who has the moral compass of a gnat, is questioning MY morality?

    – Yep. You claim I’m an amoral scumbag because I objected to Trump screwing a pornstar just three months after Melania gave birth to their son.

    On the flip side, you supported a candidate who sexually assaulted a 14 year old girl.

  282. jason says:

    on’t care about it because Trump is in charge and has a R after his name.”

    Ahh, the goalposts moved slightly.

    Not only because he has an R (that dog won’t hunt because I don’t even consider MYSELF a R anymore, and I have always been clear I don’t consider Trump an R either, so why would I care if he has an R after his name?) but because HE IS IN CHARGE.

    That is somewhat correct, the fact he is President and in charge IS relevant, I know you prefer to pretend the election didn’t happen and Jeb is still the front runner who was going to “clear the field”

  283. Tina says:

    So,

    We got today

    Whataboutism.

    Fake photos

    Koi talking points

    Roy Moore

    We did not yet get maga, my attorney got arrests.

  284. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 18, 2018 at 1:31 pm
    Seth Rich is being mentioned AGAIN……some pilot is losing another argument.

    – NYCmike, at least you would have the decency to admit you were fooled by a conspiracy theory. Chiclown will not.

  285. lisab says:

    they dems fall for this again and again …

    a.) they bring up something that they did … in this case separating children from families

    b.) then they try to blame trump for it … nevermind the fact that, if having a child as you cross the border gets you a free ticket into the united states and $60,000 per year of welfare for the next 21 years will result in illegal immigrants all bringing children to the border

    c.) trump institutes a change a policy that fixes the problem created by bush and obama and then

    d.) trump looks like an effecteive leader

  286. jason says:

    Trump screwing a pornstar ”

    Puhhhhhleese…..

    Your MSM masters call her what, an “adult film star”.

    Don’t stray from the reservation, its not your style.

  287. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 18, 2018 at 1:32 pm
    What immoral actions has Trump committed since being elected President?
    Actually, since he started the campaign?

    – Separating children from their parents at the border.

  288. Chicon says:

    278 – yet this “outrage” didn’t warrant a mention until Trump was in charge.

  289. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    June 18, 2018 at 1:32 pm
    Robbie
    This photograph from the Daily Mail is something you will cherish forever. Please print, frame and hang on the wall over your bed.

    – I have to say. It does look like Trump’s profile.

  290. jason says:

    I’m an amoral scumbag because I objected to Trump screwing a pornstar”

    Nahhh, let’s be accurate.

    I call you an amoral scumbag because you have the morals of a maggot.

  291. Wobbles says:

    BREAKING NEWS!

    RCP AVERAGE AT 44.3%!

    RS WILL LOSE 40 SEATS.

    IF IT REACHES 44.5%, RS WON’T LOSE ANY SEATS!

  292. mnw says:

    One thing you never hear about family separation from the Pelosi chorus is, what alternative do they suggest?

    Under Zero, the default mode was to release illegal alien families with children into the U.S. Period, the end. All of them. Theoretically, these illegal aliens are supposed to show up voluntarily for their deportation hearings, scheduled months AFTER their release. (Anyone need a bridge? Got one for sale.)

    Right now, per DHS, 250 illegal alien children PER DAY are being detained. Not counting the adult illegals who came with them.

    My point being, obviously, that the alternative Pelosi & her liberal pals are advocating is… open borders. They just never say that.

  293. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 18, 2018 at 1:37 pm
    278 – yet this “outrage” didn’t warrant a mention until Trump was in charge.

    – It’s pretty clear chiclown realizes glorious dear leader Trump is losing this fight. He’s given up defending the policy and is now trying to diminish those who are offend by the policy.

  294. Tina says:

    Breaking news

    Stormy Daniels heading to the border to breastfeed the Mexican children.

  295. DW says:

    Cook moves KY_06 from Lean R to Tossup, RRH approves.

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics)
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R)
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 —
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  296. Robbie says:

    I was right! The Trumpkin Ann Coulter is claiming the kids at the border just actors trying to hurt Trump.

    “I would also say one other thing, these child actors weeping and crying on all the other networks 24/7 right now: do not fall for it, Mr. President. I get very nervous about the president getting his news from TV,” said Coulter.

    http://www.breitbart.com/video/2018/06/17/coulter-warns-trump-immigration-border-dont-fall-actor-children/

  297. Tina says:

    Is Camera Hogg at the border?

  298. lisab says:

    the answer is to deport the whole family immediately, if anyone shows up with a child at the border

    have an expedited hearing that day

    problem solved

  299. Robbie says:

    Since Jason fraud’s brain has been eaten away by Trumpism, let me remind him what I actually wrote about the 2018 elections.

    I wrote if Trump’s approval is 45% or above in the RCP average on election day, Republicans should hold the House.

    If Trump’s approval is between 40% and 45% in the RCP average on election day, I think a wide range of outcomes is possible, both a hold and/or major losses and everything in between.

    If Trump’s approval is below40% in the RCP average on election day, then it will be a wipeout for Republicans in the House.

  300. lisab says:

    all the dems are doing is showing everyone how open the borders are, which will result in many fewer illegals coming through

  301. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The fundamental underlying issue regarding immigration is do you want open borders or not? A lot of Democrats, like Pelosi, do. In California there are moves to provide undocumented “immigrants” free medical care and subsidized college tuition. Who is going to pay for all of this?

    An open border policy is supported by a lot of powerful business interests in the U.S. It provides cheap labor, and drives wages down. Its a boon to companies like Amazon that like to hire employees for low pay and few benefits.

    The impact of the policy will be to create in the U.S. a social structure similar to that which exists in many third world countries. Very rich elites living in exclusive enclaves, with a a huge mass of population living at a near poverty. Your already beginning to see this in California, where the middle class is rapidly declining.

  302. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    306. Robbie, considering your failed election predictions in 2016, I would be a lot more cautious, and not make predictions based on poll numbers. We are in uncharted territory now, and don’t know what will happen in November.

    See your back to talking about your ole friend Roy Moore.

  303. Chicon says:

    300 – as you are well aware, we’re not discussing the merits – doing so with a person suffering from TDS with psychotic features would be silly. We’ve been discussing what is now plainly obvious – that your own moral outrage is, as is often the case, completely fabricated. You’ve proved it yourself right here.

  304. Tina says:

    Either we allow the illegals to further abuse the children by trekking them across the border; or

    We detain and separate and reunite days later as they are turned back to Mexico.

    The la Rasa activists want open borders. So, they chose the first option,

  305. mnw says:

    DHS says the illegal alien smugglers (universally called “coyotes”) now charge appx $8000 to smuggle each illegal. The coyotes don’t accept IOUs– they want cash– usually half in advance & the remainder at the end of the trip. The price has skyrocketed under Trump.

    Where does an illegal from Honduras get $8000 in cash to pay the coyote? From remittances sent to Honduras by… other illegal aliens!

    This is the system we are living under.

  306. Chicon says:

    From 306 – “I wrote if Trump’s approval is 45% or above in the RCP average on election day, Republicans should hold the House.

    If Trump’s approval is between 40% and 45% in the RCP average on election day, I think a wide range of outcomes is possible, both a hold and/or major losses and everything in between.

    If Trump’s approval is below40% in the RCP average on election day, then it will be a wipeout for Republicans in the House.”

    My recollection is that the middle paragraph above was not the case. It was huge losses in the House (30-50+) if Trump was below 45 JA.

  307. jason says:

    ‘the Trumpkin Ann Coulter”

    LOL

    Ann Coulter abandoned Trump, calling him a “lazy, shallow ignoramus”.

    They didn’t tell you that over at the moonbat sites?

  308. Wes says:

    Sadly Charlie Cook confirms my conclusion about VA-10 following Stewart’s Senate primary victory:

    He has moved Comstock to Lean D. I placed the seat at Lean D Pickup immediately after Stewart became the nominee.

    Thank you, VAGOP, for not only letting Tim Kaine cruise to reelection but also costing one of my favorite members of Congress her seat.

    They should just disincorporate now and get it over. In just over a decade, they’ve turned the dominant party in the state into an absolute joke.

  309. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag holding on for dear life.

    Actually of all the polls on the front page of the RCP job approval average, only PPP has him under 45%.

    He is at or over 45% in Reuters, Gallup, Monmouth, Reuters, Rasmussen, You Gov and Fox.

  310. jason says:

    Sorry, Reuters is on there twice.

  311. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Have to say seeing Trump’s approval at 45%-50% in the Gallup poll is a surprise. Its close to Rasmussen at 48%-50%. Trump should call Pelosi and other leftists Democrats and thank them for increasing his popularity by their antics.

  312. DW says:

    Wes, don’t count Comstock out yet. Last I checked there is absolutely zero polls on the race.

  313. jason says:

    Yeah, Wes, Comstock now the underdog but let’s not write her off just yet, pretty good campaigner.

  314. Chicon says:

    In 1994, Clinton was at 48 JA, and lost 52 seats. In 2010, Obama was at 45 JA, and lost 63 seats.

  315. jason says:

    England 1 Tunisia 0, ten minutes into first half.

  316. Wes says:

    Comstock was literally the best candidate available for that seat and fit it perfectly.

    Then Shak Hill ran as a bellicose Trumpkin (in a district the President lost badly) and questioned Comstock’s conservative credentials, getting the Deadenders to turn out in force to drop her to just over 60% of the vote.

    Well, I wonder how happy the Deadenders will be when Jennifer Wexton starts voting against EVERYTHING Trump wants next year.

  317. DW says:

    and some moron says this: “Cook is actually rating an incumbent as an underdog in June! Yeah, that basically is confirmation she’s done.”

    Based on what? Just because Charlie Cook says so? This clown has been wrong so often in the past its amazing actually. And yet RRH people just keep going back to him as though he is a god.

  318. Wes says:

    Jason, Hill got over 39% of the vote against her. Wexton is a great campaigner in her own right representing the biggest county in the district. Kaine will blow out Stewart by at least 20% in the district.

    That’s a recipe for a fait accompli.

  319. Wes says:

    Sadly, DW, I agree with the toupee on this. I expect Wexton to win 52-47-1. Corey Stewart is just too much of a drag for Comstock to overcome in the face of the best available opponent the Dems had for her.

  320. jason says:

    n 1994, Clinton was at 48 JA, and lost 52 seats. In 2010, Obama was at 45 JA, and lost 63 seats.”

    Probably both those figures were inflated by about 5 points, considering they were Dems, especially Obama’s.

    Still, point well taken. While the JA number is important, a lot of the conventional wisdom has been overturned since Trump announced his presidential run.

  321. DW says:

    326 – I am by no means guaranteeing Comstock will win Wes, but given she is an incumbent, and a quality candidate, I see no reason to not leave this a tossup until polling comes along to say otherwise.

    There was a Dem outfit that did a poll of the race, Comstock against a generic D, and Comstock was down 3 points. But again, it was a dem outfit. That sounds like a tossup race to me.

  322. jason says:

    Then Shak Hill ran as a bellicose Trumpkin (in a district the President lost badly) and questioned Comstock’s conservative credentials, getting the Deadenders to turn out in force to drop her to just over 60% of the vote.”

    True, but remember the primary voter is different than the GE voter, the deadender got a lot of votes because the deadenders turned out for but probably the lion share of the R vote that didn’t turn out in the primary will turn out for Comstock in the GE.

    I agree on underdog status, but I wouldn’t give up on the race just yet.

  323. Wes says:

    You know I don’t base all my analysis on polls, DW. Everything I’m seeing says Comstock falls. (Thank you, Deadenders!) Now if Freitas were the Senate nominee, I’d say Comstock would be in a good position to hang on.

    With Stewart dragging her down, I see no path to victory unless Wexton majorly stumbles.

    Stewart will motivate the anti-Trumpers to turn out and has been vocal in supporting Trump–in a state Trump lost in part because of his poor showing in this district.

    Then too, the GOP had anemic primary turnout while Dems fared well.

    Tell me how I’m supposed to conclude this race is anything but a Lean D Pickup affair after all this.

  324. Tina says:

    Pinned Tweet
    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    @NolteNC
    ·
    19h
    Ask yourself what SUDDENLY triggered the media’s coordinated concern over Trump continuing Obama’s policy regarding illegal families.

    1. Roaring economy
    2. North Korea triumph
    3. IG report exposing FBI witch hunt

    MSM could not care less about these kids.

    This is where we are at today.

  325. jason says:

    The Dem will try to nationalize the race against Comstock, who will have to try to keep it local.

    Whomever is more successful in their strategy will win.

  326. jason says:

    MSM could not care less about these kids.”

    No kidding.

    They care about these kids as much as Amoral Scumbag does.

    It’s all for the cause.

  327. Chicon says:

    331 – exactly, Tina. And neither does Squeaker (you know, the guy who thinks Blankenship lost a squeaker).

  328. jason says:

    That compared slightly better than the perception of Pelosi, who had a 17 percent favorable, 72 percent unfavorable rating among self-identified Republicans.”

    Besides Wobbie, do you know a Republican with a favorable view of Peloai?

    17% is like one in six.

    I say that’s complete BS.

  329. Wes says:

    That’s about the most pathetic truism I’ve ever seen on here, Jason.

    Of course whoever has the more successful strategy will win. Now how’s Comstock supposed to have the more effective strategy when COREY FREAKING STEWART is going to be running at the top of the ticket?

    This is Ground Zero for the anti-Trumpers in VA. Tim Kaine will destroy Stewart in the district and has already committed to helping Wexton win. That alone should tell you Comstock has if not Everest at least K2 to climb to win this race.

    I expect triage by late August unless by some miracle Wexton makes a macaca-level unforced error.

  330. jason says:

    Lean D is ok for Comstock.

    But the Dems are not going to win all the “lean D” seats.

    You read it here first.

  331. jason says:

    Now how’s Comstock supposed to have the more effective strategy when COREY FREAKING STEWART is going to be running at the top of the ticket?”

    Because as Tip O’Neill said, “all politics are local”.

    The Dem will try to change that, thanks to deadender Stewart.

  332. Wes says:

    That’s like saying the Sun’s shiny, Jason. They’re not going to win all of them, but when they have a preponderance of things up and down the ticket in their favor, they’re going to win a big chunk of them. I’d love to be wrong, but I honestly can’t imagine Comstock has any but a remote chance now that Stewart will appear above her on the ballot.

  333. jason says:

    Wes, I agreed with your Lean D assessment.

    If you think the race is a lock, you should make it Safe D.

  334. Wes says:

    You are aware also the Dem is a State Rep from the biggest county in the district, I hope. That’s about as local as you can get. Don’t think Wexton won’t be assiduously working the people who supported her in her last three elections–few if any of them Trump supporters and probably none Stewart supporters–to take Comstock out.

  335. Wes says:

    I never used Solid (my term for Safe) for pickups, Jason. I put pickups at Lean and Likely. I really don’t want to move VA-10 into the Likely D column, but I expect to have to before the end of summer.

  336. jason says:

    Corey Stewart is not going to be the only issue in the race.

    And its just possible more deadenders will come out to vote because of Stewart than normal.

    It’s a strong negative factor for Comstock no doubt.

    But there are other factors in her favor, such as the fact she is the incumbent.

    In any event, its not a race you want to give up on at this point.

  337. Wes says:

    I do hate to be an eeyore, but, damn, once the VAGOP nominated Corey Stewart and Comstock beat Hill by an unimpressive margin, I had to look at the totality of things and call the race as I see it.

  338. jason says:

    Wes, you ARE aware that Wexton’s district, even if inside the largest county, is a lot smaller than the congressional district. There are 100 house delegates in VA and 11 Congressional districts.

    This is a very weak argument, I would rank it has a very small factor.

  339. jason says:

    Breaking News

    In the end, both wes and I agree the race is Lean D.

  340. Chicon says:

    Wes, from this chair, your analysis appears to be your reasoned analysis. No eeyore to me. Appreciate your analysis.

  341. Wes says:

    Honestly this race reminds me of WV-3 in 2014:

    That year, there was a strong incumbent Dem running in a district trending the opposite direction who attracted a strong challenger and lost when his party’s Senate candidate flatlined and took it on the chin in the district as well as statewide.

  342. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Horowitz discloses that comedy is under investigation for leaking classified information.

  343. Wes says:

    There are approximately 700,000/congressional district. Wexton represent 196,000 of them in her current position in the VA State Senate. (I misidentified her as a State Rep earlier.) She already represents a quarter of the district. That’s a strong base of support.

  344. NYCmike says:

    “– Separating children from their parents at the border.”

    -This is immoral?

    Why?

    What type of parent would illegally cross a border knowing that the laws in place have been enforced in some ways by the last 2 Presidential administrations?

  345. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    If that is immoral, then you must want a theocracy, which is, maybe, why you are so against Trump, as a Hillary/Democrat administration would have made it easier for radical Islam to continue its march across the globe.

  346. Wobbles says:

    – Separating children from their parents at the border.”

    -This is immoral?”

    In the Trump administration yes.

    In the Obama administration no.

  347. jason says:

    England 2 Tunisia 1
    England scores in last minute of regulation.

  348. jason says:

    Ok Wes, the senate district IS a lot larger than the house district.

    Still Wexton only got 56% of the vote in that district against the Republican in 2015, and the vote was 18,600 to 14,200.

  349. jason says:

    So while its true she has a “base” of support from her state senate district, its not like its overwhelming.

  350. dblaikie says:

    How quickly we forget! Wasn’t just a couple of weeks ago where a picture of kids in small cages appeared on the social net. and condemnation of anti Trump world started to howl. But then the truth came those caged kids weren’t under Trump but Obama.

    It just shows me that desperation and bankruptcy of the Democratic party. Whenever they are in trouble they always go their default: “Republicans hate minorities. Republicans want to starve and hurt children. Republicans are big bad racist bullies. Republicans hate women. And on and on . . .

  351. NYCmike says:

    …….and Robbie eats it up!

  352. Tina says:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/06/mccabe-refuses-to-testify-at-senate-judiciary-hearing-invokes-5th-amendment-rights/

    Breaking

    Jebots’ McCabe, the clintunes personal fib fixer, refuses to testify, pleads 5th.

  353. NYCmike says:

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/235739/satisfaction-direction-reaches-year-high.aspx

    -Don’t fall for the media’s (and Robbie’s) FAKE emotional b*llsh*t!

    PUSH the ECONOMY, STUPID!

  354. Wes says:

    Stewart is even worse than I thought:

    http://www.roanoke.com/news/dan_casey/casey-corey-stewart-and-the-classic-toolkit-of-fascist-politicians/article_6fb04db0-57a3-5fe9-97cb-64343db9d7eb.html

    In an alternate universe, Jim Gilmore was a competent Governor who didn’t enable Mark Warner and Tim Kaine to rise to power. In that same universe, George Allen wasn’t a racist moron while the VAGOP realized Corey Stewart could bring only disaster.

  355. Wes says:

    DW, the VAGOP is the template for making a state party irrelevant.

  356. Wes says:

    Delaware 2, anyone?

    RYAN_IN_SEPA
    June 18, 2018 at 4:01 pm
    I think this is one of those situations where an area goes from being Republican dominated to Democrat dominated and the remaining Republican rump is radicalized. We have seen this happen numerous times. I have started noticing this in SEPA.
    32, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian

  357. Tina says:

    Fib director wrong Wray just admitted that there are criminal investigations into comedy and McCabe.

  358. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Since Pelosi is so expressive of her concerns for the welfare of children, one has to wonder why she is not addressing conditions in her own San Francisco congressional district. Rampant drug use, filthy streets, syringes all over the streets. it is not a place you want to take children.

  359. Tina says:

    Horowitz: “It is clear from the messages that Struck had a biased state of mind.”

    “We were concerned in October of bias in deciding to pursue the Russia investigation instead of the Weiner laptop.”.

    Bias state of mind.

  360. Robbie says:

    Kirstjen Nielson came to Trump administration with a very good reputation from hers years working for GWB. I watched her press conference. She pitched a lot of goodwill away.

    MaybeCooperativeHat
    ?@Popehat

    Dear @SecNielsen:

    You’ve left your credibility, reputation, and conscience as a burnt offering on the altar of a petulant orange god who will never return your loyalty and will flick you away like a booger the minute it crosses his mind to do so.

  361. Hugh says:

    Robbie. You must have watched a different press conference than I watched

  362. lisab says:

    i just hope they don’t end up on welfare here

  363. hugh says:

    I agree with the democrats we should keep child abusers and other criminals to stay united with their children.

  364. Tina says:

    The senate judiciary hearing is quite shocking.

    The ds have thrown comedy under the bus.

    Senators Grassley, Cruz, and Goober came to fight.

    Ben asse was weak as usual.

  365. Tina says:

    The dos secretary was quite strong. No rino deal.

  366. Chicon says:

    Hugh, he, and the press don’t give a hoot about the Cage Kids. If they did, they’d have brought it up years ago.

  367. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie
    Any thoughts about these photos from 2014 at the same detention facility?

    https://twitter.com/brandondarby/status/1008502391124189185/photo/1

  368. Robbie says:

    Pretty obvious throwing kids in cages wasn’t polling well in Texas.

    Jesse Rodriguez
    @JesseRodriguez

    JUST IN: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) introducing emergency legislation to keep illegal immigrant families together

  369. Tina says:

    The lead investigator looking at Clinton on August the 8th, says we got to stop Trump.

    Finding her liable criminally would be inconsistent with stopping Donald Trump.

    If they found Hillary Clinton was criminally liable that paves the way for Donald Trump.

    You cannot hold her criminally liable and stop him.

    Gross negligent is a criminally liable standard. So if they had said it the way they originally wrote it, she’s guilty of a crime. And the reason they changed it is because she’s not guilty of a crime. And if you want to stop him it can’t be gross negligence!

    — Lindsay Graham

    Like

  370. lisab says:

    TRENTON, N.J. — A dispute between rival gang members was the probable cause behind a shooting that erupted in the early morning hours of a popular all-night arts festival in Trenton, killing one, injuring 22, and leaving New Jersey’s capital in a state of shock on Father’s Day.

    Gov. Phil Murphy said the shooting may have stemmed from a “low-end neighborhood-level dispute” that spilled over into the venue.

    But with thousands in attendance, that dispute quickly turned into a mass shooting involving multiple weapons, and adding New Jersey to the list of states nationwide that have had casualties from gun violence at large gatherings.

    “This is yet another reminder of the senselessness of gun violence,” Murphy said at a midday news conference at Galilee Baptist Church, noting he had signed six stringent gun measures into law last week.

    The deceased suspect has been identified as Tahaij Wells, 33. Wells was released from prison and on parole since February on homicide-related charges.

  371. Robbie says:

    Hugh says:
    June 18, 2018 at 6:09 pm
    Robbie. You must have watched a different press conference than I watched

    – No, I just didn’t wear my orange colored glasses.

    I do love watching supposed conservatives defend separating children from their families and throwing them in cages.

  372. Tina says:

    Goober asked Horowitz is there a difference between gross negligent and reckless.

    Horowitz

    None.

    The jebots beotch was and is guilty.

  373. Tina says:

    Senate Judiicary hearing implies that Pete the cheat, or McCabe tried to destroy the stop trump email.

    Obstruction

    Tampering

  374. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 18, 2018 at 6:12 pm
    Hugh, he, and the press don’t give a hoot about the Cage Kids. If they did, they’d have brought it up years ago.

    – Just keep lying chiclown. Just keep lying. It’s what you do best in defense of your glorious dear leader Trump.

  375. Tina says:

    I blast goober a lot, but today he did stunningly well.

  376. Tina says:

    The cage kids from 2014.

    Jebot was mute at the time, as was president mute and Laura bush.

  377. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    June 18, 2018 at 6:13 pm
    Robbie
    Any thoughts about these photos from 2014 at the same detention facility?
    https://twitter.com/brandondarby/status/1008502391124189185/photo/1

    – It was immoral then and it’s immoral now. If you want to play the “what about” game to defend or deflect for glorious dear leader Trump, go right ahead. It doesn’t make Trump’s handling of this issue any better.

    He is using the children of immigrants as pawns in hopes he can force the Democrats to fund his wall.

  378. Tina says:

    It is immoral for the last rasa pimps to come to the border ilegallly.

    The Drats are using the children as pawns.

  379. Hugh says:

    Robbie if the law allowed the “relatives who are criminals to live with the children while processes count me in. But it doesn’t. I think Cruz just introduced legislation that would do that. How many caring dems will vote for it?? 0 they are hypocrites like Robbie

  380. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 18, 2018 at 6:21 pm
    The cage kids from 2014.
    Jebot was mute at the time, as was president mute and Laura bush.

    – Newsflash, Tinfoil. The country rendered it’s verdict on Obama’s handling of that situation with a drop in his approval rating and a significant defeat at the ballot box in November 2014.

    I’d like to see the Republican Party avoid a significant defeat in 2018 so I’d like to see glorious dear leader Trump stop the practice of separating children from their parents and throwing them in cages.

    But if you want to separate kids from their parents in order town the libs, go right ahead. Just be prepared for dropping poll numbers and a big loss in November.

  381. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1008829751073615872/video/1

    Boom

    Sara sanders just slammed First Lady Laura bush,

    This separation bill was signed by mute 43 in 2008.

    Laura bush is an idiot.

  382. Tina says:

    New slash,

    You were mute.

  383. Robbie says:

    Hugh says:
    June 18, 2018 at 6:24 pm
    Robbie if the law allowed the “relatives who are criminals to live with the children while processes count me in. But it doesn’t. I think Cruz just introduced legislation that would do that. How many caring dems will vote for it?? 0 they are hypocrites like Robbie

    – The law absolutely allows for the children to stay with their parents. This is a policy decision the Trump White House has chosen to make on their own. Stephen Miller, Trump’s chief immigration instigator, said so in an interview to the dreaded NYT last week.

    They are choosing to separate children from their parents and toss them in cages. There is no law that requires it.

  384. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 18, 2018 at 6:26 pm
    https://mobile.twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1008829751073615872/video/1
    Boom
    Sara sanders just slammed First Lady Laura bush,
    This separation bill was signed by mute 43 in 2008.
    Laura bush is an idiot.

    – I wondered how long it would take Tinfoil to attack Laura Bush for daring not to support glorious dear leader Trump.

    Not long, apparently.

  385. Tina says:

    Jebot was mute when mute 43 signed the legislation.

    It was law enacted by mute, and comity used by Obama and trump.

    10 years

  386. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 18, 2018 at 6:27 pm
    New slash,
    You were mute.

    – And you hear voices inside your head.

    You’re a crank who gets her news from Jim Hoft and Jack “pizzagate” Posobiec.

  387. Tina says:

    The Jebot is now attacking.

    You were mute from 2008-2017 about this passed bill.

    Never expressed any concern until now.

  388. Tina says:

    Sarah Sanders rightfully blames mute 43.and the obumbler.

    Wants law changed but has no power to do so,

    Congress passes immigration bills, not the president.

  389. Hugh says:

    If you can let the whole family stay in detention I support it. My understanding is they cannot. Hence the Cruz legislation. Which I can support

  390. NYCmike says:

    “He is using the children of immigrants as pawns in hopes he can force the Democrats to fund his wall.”

    -If the law is behind him, then he is using the power of his office, which is in charge of the Executive Branch, which is in charge of enforcing the law, as given to him by the representatives OF THE PEOPLE in Congress.

  391. NYCmike says:

    Seth Rich, “pizzagate”!

  392. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Horowitz, before the judiciary committee, admits that a grand jury has been impaneled.

  393. NYCmike says:

    The more emotional Robbie gets, the more I am confident that Republicans will hold both chambers of Congress.

  394. NYCmike says:

    Of course, my confidence will also depend on Republicans being strong enough to withstand the media and the emotions-based attacks they are currently using to go after the Republican Party.

  395. Tina says:

    It’s appalling that president mute signed this bill.

    The president wants it changed but cannot unilaterally do so.

  396. Robbie says:

    Clearly, people aren’t watching enough FoxNews.

    Steven Portnoy
    @stevenportnoy

    NEW: @CBSNews poll shows two-thirds of Americans say it’s unacceptable to separate parents from their children at the border.

    Acceptable 17%
    Unacceptable 67%
    Haven’t heard enough 12%

  397. Robbie says:

    Hugh says:
    June 18, 2018 at 6:37 pm
    If you can let the whole family stay in detention I support it. My understanding is they cannot. Hence the Cruz legislation. Which I can support

    – There is no law mandating separation. This is a policy put in place by Trump’s administration.

  398. Tina says:

    The president agrees.

    Appalling that bush signed the bill and obumbler did it for 8 years.

    Also appealing that the illegals enter the country,

  399. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 18, 2018 at 6:43 pm
    “He is using the children of immigrants as pawns in hopes he can force the Democrats to fund his wall.”
    -If the law is behind him, then he is using the power of his office, which is in charge of the Executive Branch, which is in charge of enforcing the law, as given to him by the representatives OF THE PEOPLE in Congress.

    – Of course, there is no law that requires separation. A fact the Trumpaloos ignore.

    Regardless, what NYCmike wrote is what despots throughout the last 100 years have used to justify their actions.

    Anyone remember the Nuremberg laws and what they permitted the German government to do?

  400. Tina says:

    10000 kids showed up without parents,

    A 31 percent increase of children appearing with traffickers aka non parents.

  401. NYCmike says:

    Robbie is all-emotion, no-common sense.

    If the Republicans can stick together, follow the lead of Trump/Cruz in trying to change the law in the correct way, the story will get out that the Republicans are doing the right thing.

    If the Republicans let the fake emotions of the media sway them to appease Democrats, drug gangs, and the illegal immigration lobby, then they will lose at the ballot box.

  402. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 18, 2018 at 6:51 pm
    It’s appalling that president mute signed this bill.
    The president wants it changed but cannot unilaterally do so.

    – Trump in 2016 – “I alone can fix it.”

    Trump in 2018 – “I can’t do anything until the Congress acts.”

  403. Tina says:

    “Just because your child gets across the border that doesn’t mean your child gets to stay”

    – Hillary Clinton 2014
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  404. NYCmike says:

    “Anyone remember the Nuremberg laws and what they permitted the German government to do?”

    -Holy moly!

    Going full-H*tler! or is it BusH*tler?……

  405. Tina says:

    Why did bush pass the bill?

    Can a reporter ask the First Lady or flub?

  406. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 18, 2018 at 7:12 pm
    Robbie is all-emotion, no-common sense.

    – LOL!

    If there’s anyone who is allergic to common sense in this forum, it’s NYCmike who continually supports candidates who allow Democrats to win.

    I guess the 67% who find children separation unacceptable also lack common sense?

  407. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 18, 2018 at 7:13 pm
    “Anyone remember the Nuremberg laws and what they permitted the German government to do?”
    -Holy moly!
    Going full-H*tler! or is it BusH*tler?……

    – You just wrote that if the laws allow for a leader to use people as pawns, so be it. If you didn’t want to be reminded of the way certain leaders used their “laws” to do despicable things, don’t advocate using laws to use people as pawns.

  408. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 18, 2018 at 7:13 pm
    Why did bush pass the bill?
    Can a reporter ask the First Lady or flub?

    – He tried in 2006 and in 2007, but your mouth breather friends in talk radio and the blogosphere torpedoed both efforts.

  409. Robbie says:

    But they just spent the afternoon saying they want Congress to act on this issue.

    Zeke Miller
    @ZekeJMiller

    The White House says it would reject a narrow fix to address children separated from their parents at the U.S.-Mexico border, saying it wants Congress to “fix the whole thing.”

  410. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    ·
    11m
    Cruz: Obama held tens of thousands of children in dentition centers who came illegally as immigrants. Now, when Obama was President, the Democrats didn’t think it was a problem..You didn’t see the news covering it around the clock.

  411. Robbie says:

    NYCmike, Jason fraud, and the rest giving each other high fives.

    Radley Balko
    @radleybalko

    Radley Balko Retweeted Aaron Blake
    Republicans support the ripping-kids-from-their-parents policy by a 20 point margin. Congrats on being the party of putting children in cages.

  412. Tina says:

    Congrats to mute 43 and obumbler for separating kids and putting them in cages.

  413. mnw says:

    Cruz’ bill makes so much sense, it will never pass. The DEMs don’t want a solution, they want a weapon to use against Trump.

  414. Phil says:

    Damn, I step away from the computer for the afternoon only to come back and find Robbie still crying about “the children” and “cages”.

    I don’t remember him worrying about “ripping children from their parents” when W or Obama was president”

    Why is that anyway?

    It’s rhetorical. The answer is obvious.

  415. Messy says:

    379. The FBI helped Trump win, not Clinton.

  416. Chicon says:

    Trump Derangement Syndrome, Severe, with psychotic features.

  417. mnw says:

    ND SEN:

    New Mason-Dixon poll shows Cramer (R) +4 over Heitkamp (D), 48-44.

    Link at RRH, where The Wise Men would have you believe this is somehow good news for… Heitkamp.

  418. Tina says:

    Mason Dixon is back polling?

    Didn’t they go awol for a bit?

  419. Chicon says:

    Muh Cage Kids.

  420. Tina says:

    I can’t hink of something more concerning than a law enforcement officer suggesting that they’re going to try and use or may use their powers to affect an election.”

    Horowitz before the judiciary committee

  421. Mr.Vito says:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/31980/media-are-lying-about-trump-separating-illegal-ben-shapiro

    “In 1997, the federal government made an agreement in a case called Flores not to keep unaccompanied illegal immigrant children in custody beyond 20 days. The settlement said nothing about accompanied illegal immigrant children – children who crossed the border with their parents. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals then ruled that accompanied children also could not be held in custody under the terms of the settlement. This meant that the government either had to release whole families, or that the government had to separate parents from children.”

    “Immigrants who come to points of entry to seek asylum aren’t actually illegally in the country – they’re not arrested. They’re processed through ICE, and their children stay with them. If, however, illegal immigrants cross the border illegally, the Trump administration now treats them as criminals. If they choose deportation, they aren’t separated from their kids; if they choose to apply for asylum, they stay in the country longer than 20 days, and their kids have to be removed by operation of law.”

  422. Chicon says:

    Vito, evil. Evil, I say.

  423. Phil says:

    Comey refused to testify before Grassley’s committee. McCabe took the 5th. Lynch also refused to testify.

    Naw, Robbie. No deep state. Nothing to it. Nada.

  424. Proud Obamacon says:

    I think I am going to join the “space force”. once that shiz is defined, I’m in. Who’s with me?Hoping it will come with a millenium falcon and chewy as a side kick.

    #RESIST

  425. Chicon says:

    Where’s Bitter? I wanna see what he’s got to say about being on the same team as CG and Robbie.

  426. Chicon says:

    438 – I think you’re already there, eh?

  427. Tina says:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1exA8ik5QI&feature=youtu.be

    Dhs secretary.

    The Jebot loons are upset with her because of her performance,

  428. Tina says:

    Josh Caplan
    @joshdcaplan
    ICE Acting Director Thomas Homan: “As far as the separation of families are concerned, you’d have to put the blame on the parents. They are choosing to enter between the ports of entry, they know they will be separated.”

  429. Chicon says:

    Tina, that must be wrong. I read here that it is all Trump’s fault.

  430. mnw says:

    I (heart) that POTUS & the GOP didn’t lie down and assume the fetal position in response to all the muh cage kids! bs.

  431. Chicon says:

    Me, too, MNW.

  432. Tina says:

    Chicon

    Muh cages are still happening,

    According to the libs, while the pictures are from 2014, “it is still happening.”

    You know kind of like trumps thoughts were to fire comedy over Russia and Mulehead has a fake letter,

  433. Chicon says:

    Tina, they’re a bit desperate to talk about anything but the economy. Anything. Just look at Flyboy today – in absolute panic.

  434. Chicon says:

    Jason, Robbie said the following in 306. Is this how you recall it? Especially paragraph 2.

    “Since Jason fraud’s brain has been eaten away by Trumpism, let me remind him what I actually wrote about the 2018 elections.

    I wrote if Trump’s approval is 45% or above in the RCP average on election day, Republicans should hold the House.

    If Trump’s approval is between 40% and 45% in the RCP average on election day, I think a wide range of outcomes is possible, both a hold and/or major losses and everything in between.

    If Trump’s approval is below40% in the RCP average on election day, then it will be a wipeout for Republicans in the House.”

  435. Tina says:

    Yup, anything, but the economy, stock market, North Korea, and the Ig report,

  436. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Robbie and/or CG and the other trolls who post on the board are failures. These headlines are unacceptable:

    From the Hill: “A Gallup poll released Monday showed President Trump earning his highest approval rating since shortly after he took office, even as his administration faces growing criticism over its immigration policies”.

    “Oh My: GOP Surges to 2018 Generic Ballot Lead in New Reuters Poll”

  437. Tina says:

    Last week #StormyDaniels. This week #ConcentrationCamps. Next week something else.

    Bill Mitchell

  438. Tina says:

    Last week, according to the Drats:

    Comedy is great

    This week (senate hearing today), according to the Drats:

    Comedy sucks.

    Which is it? I have my answer.

  439. Tina says:

    Muh cages = muh concentration camps

  440. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag is just a propaganda tool for the MSM.

    He doesn’t care about any kids, he would sell them into slavery if he thought it would damage Trump.

  441. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “ICE Acting Director Thomas Homan: “As far as the separation of families are concerned, you’d have to put the blame on the parents. They are choosing to enter between the ports of entry, they know they will be separated.”

    Entering the U.S. lawfully, what a silly idea.

  442. NYCmike says:

    “I guess the 67% who find children separation unacceptable also lack common sense?”

    -The lack the correct information, such as what Mr. Vito, as well as others, have posted and stated.

    Give friendly media outlets, talkradio, blogs, etc enough time (2 weeks?), along with the twitter feeds from Trump, Cruz, etc, and the 67% will slowly get down below 50%, and then further as time goes on.

    You are an emotional wreck, looking for anything to damage Trump, his fellow Republicans, and the nation at large.

  443. NYCmike says:

    “He doesn’t care about any kids, he would sell them into slavery if he thought it would damage Trump.”

    -I am starting to think Robbie would sell the kids and his Mom if it would damage Trump.

    ** (add that to his repertoire of Seth Rich, pizzagate, SuperspermCernovich, etc)**

  444. Chicon says:

    NYC, it is Trump Derangement Syndrome, Severe, with psychotic features.

  445. NYCmike says:

    The more pictures I see of the situation, the more I understand why the parents are doing it.

    While it can look pretty discouraging, in truth, it is probably a step up from where they have left. That is how bad these other countries are, and how lucky we are to be born, or to have moved legally, to the USA.

    Once again, Trump was correct: these other places are sheotholes!

  446. NYCmike says:

    Chicon,

    No kidding! Koo-koo!

  447. NYCmike says:

    I’ll say this: the detention centers are more civilized than when I go camping with the Boy Scouts……and YES, children and parents/adults are definitely SEPARATED on these trips!

  448. lisab says:

    I am starting to think Robbie would sell the kids and his Mom if it would damage Trump.
    ——————————————-

    remember this is how robbie and the never trumpers see you

    “the basket of deplorables. they are racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic — islamophobic — you name it…. all poor to middle class, uneducated, lazy POS”

    that is why the keep up the week to week “muh ____”

    they think it will distract you from the booming economy, lower taxes and relative peace

    not to mention the fact that the obama government was trying to swing the election to hillary

  449. Mr.Vito says:

    “Yulín Cruz’s administration “is now being investigated for alleged corruption,” The Epoch Times reports. Local news outlets are reporting that FBI officials are investigating “several suppliers” for misbehavior and collusion, along with the mayor’s office.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/31960/report-anti-trump-puerto-rico-mayor-now-being-amanda-prestigiacomo

    Less than shocking.

  450. Bitterlaw says:

    I won my first game as a Head Coach of a softball tournament team.

    Scooterboy’s daughter won a high school softball tournament for the entire state of Alabama.

    Politics? Zzzzzzzzzzz

  451. Chicon says:

    464 – Congrats to all! Now, back to politics or GFY.

  452. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The bully Trump is at it again. After mysteriously causing the North Koreans to destroy their nuclear launch sites, he is now attacking Russia through Norway, with the connivance of supposedly neutral Finland. From the Marine Corp Times

    “Russia just can’t let it go that Norway recently decided to invite several hundred more Marines to the region for cold-weather training.
    Last week, the Russian Embassy in Norway warned of consequences and on Friday, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova claimed the Corps’ presence in the Arctic country may, in fact, be an attack.
    Norway recently agreed to boost the number of Marines in the country from 330 to 700 and opened a second training area closer to the Russian border in the Troms region.
    Russia argues Oslo’s decision is in violation of agreements the Scandinavian country made when it joined NATO in 1949. Norway agreed not to base permanent foreign forces in the country unless threatened or attacked.
    “But what attack is it possible to talk about today? As is known, top-level Norwegian officials have repeatedly noted that Russia presents no threat,” Zakharova said. “Considering the fact that US Marines are deployed in Norway, perhaps it is the United States that has attacked this country?”

    and, a military exercise with Finland:

    “In preparation for a looming fight with Russia, for the first time the Corps temporarily moved some of its M1A1 Abrams tanks holed up in secret caves in Norway to Finland.
    It was for a large-scale annual training exercise featuring mechanized units known as Arrow 18, and it was the first time the Corps and its Abrams tanks have ever participated in the evolution, which took place from May 7-18.
    The exercise involved only 30 Marines with nearly 5,000 Finnish soldiers, roughly 150 armored vehicles and 300 other military vehicles — a substantial display of firepower and deterrence flaunted not far from the Russian border.
    But the Corps pulled out all the stops by moving its main battle tank from a series of secret cave complexes in Norway — a Cold War era storage program designed to rapidly equip Marines for a fight with Russia — to Pojankangas Training Area near Kankaanpaa, Finland for the exercise.
    Exercise Arrow is an annual Finnish multinational exercise, and this was the first time that U.S. Marines “participated in the exercise with the purpose of exercising mechanized infantry, artillery, and mortar field training skills in order to increase interoperability, reassure partner nations, improve readiness and reinforce relationships,” Marine spokesman Lt. Brett Lazaroff said in an email to Marine Corps Times Tuesday.”

    Add to this that Trump finally gave the Ukraine the weapons that Obama/Clinton refused them. This is beginning to look like a Reagan foreign policy. Putin has to be miffed at Trump, whom as all good leftists know, got him elected.

  453. NYCmike says:

    https://www.newsmax.com/dealhudson/catholic-church-bishops-trump-abortion/2018/06/18/id/866776/

    -Hmmmm, maybe this will turn Robbie around a bit…..looks like American bishops are being influenced by Pope Francis, and they will seek to push immigration front and center…..Robbie and Pope Francis, ONE AND THE SAME!

  454. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/06/18/now-sen-richard-blumenthal-is-comparing-family-separation-at-the-border-to-the-holocaust/

    -Robbie joins with Blumenthal and Michael Steele in comparing muh cages to Hitler’s Germany………I should have known it was not an original thought of Robbie’s.

    He can’t even be an interesting loonie!

  455. NYCmike says:

    San Diego,

    I was just reading an article about the navy supposedly looking to give up certain jobs they do and taking on more of a rapid reaction force role…..Mattis was the driver behind it, again, supposedly.

    Trump picking Mattis has to go down as a great decision…..hope he stays on for 8 years.

  456. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    469. “Trump picking Mattis has to go down as a great decision…..hope he stays on for 8 years.”

    Agree, and hope Kelly stays as well. Obama was such a pacifist that he disliked any display of military power; Putin and other foreign leaders knew he was a pacifist, and took advance of him.

    Also agree on the rapid deploy force idea. There really is no reason, for example, to keep a large number of troops in South Korea. They just serve as targets; the South Koreans have a excellent military. The U.S. could defend South Korea through modern military technologies, without troops on the ground.

  457. janz says:

    Is Trump Pivoting East in Europe?

    This is a foreign policy article engaging in some fascinating speculation regarding Trump’s European strategy.

  458. janz says:

    BTW, I thought Kirsten Neilson did an outstanding job explaining the situation at the border, including schooling journalists on the basics of immigration law, as well as a history of what has gone on in past administrations, including the sainted Obama one. It’s too bad that the crowd she spoke to did not return the professionalism and calmness she demonstrated.

  459. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    471. “This is a foreign policy article engaging in some fascinating speculation regarding Trump’s European strategy.”

    Countries like Poland, the Baltics and the other former eastern bloc countries like Trump more than Merkel, who is totally awful. Hopefully she is gone soon. There was a reason Obama was electronically monitoring her cell phone.

  460. DW says:

    You cannot win with RRH. If Cramer is shown up 4, then it means the race is way too close there must be something wrong with him because he isn’t blowing out the incumbent.

    If Cramer is up 8, then the poll must be faulty because there is no way an incumbent could be that far behind.

    Why don’t they just change the name to Blue Racing Horses and be done with it.

  461. Tina says:

    Rino racing horses?

  462. Mr.Vito says:

    Blue-faced nags.

  463. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    I await Robbie’s shedding tears for these two Miami women who were brutally murdered by an illegal alien.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article213426999.html

  464. Tgca says:

    Cuatrocientos Setenta y Nuevo!!!

  465. Tgca says:

    Nueve maldición. No nuevo. Dios!

    Estupudia corrección automática de culo.

  466. Tgca says:

    How disingenuous this witch is. Unbeleivable! People were not rounded up on trains and buses, they are being detained for illegal entry into the US.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/06/19/hillary_clinton_i_warned_of_trump_separating_families_people_being_rounded_up_on_trains_and_buses.html

  467. Messy says:

    455. many of them are
    478. I await Sheeple’s shedding tears for those mothers who were deported and didn’t get their kids back.

  468. Chicon says:

    Did the Cage Kids sleep okay last night?

  469. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #482
    Daily Moron Alert!!!

  470. DW says:

    Here is a collection of RRH brilliance from 2016 election night. Pay attention to the time-stamps on some of these:

    MaxwellsDemon
    November 8, 2016 at 7:18 pm
    Trump is done. He needs to win Jacksonville by 5, this is terrible for him.

    Tekzilla
    November 8, 2016 at 7:30 pm
    Word I’m getting is that it’s looking bad for Roy Blunt in Missouri.

    SwingStateRepublican
    November 8, 2016 at 7:43 pm
    Clinton up 22 in Mahoning early vote, bad sign for Trump, no big swing as expected.

    Ryan_in_SEPA
    November 8, 2016 at 7:56 pm
    Trump is going to lose. Say you were not part of this freakshow.

    TexasR
    November 8, 2016 at 7:57 pm
    Fox, so you can witness Hannity’s glorious meltdown after ~9PM EST.

    MosheM
    November 8, 2016 at 7:58 pm
    Geauga County, OH early vote – Trump +11; Romney won it by by more than 20

    MosheM
    November 8, 2016 at 8:05 pm
    Per CNN, Jason Kander is ahead in the early exit polls. This would be a huge pickup for the Dems. https://t.co/VXR55xrwXT

    MaxwellsDemon
    November 8, 2016 at 8:15 pm
    No. It’ll be close, but late precincts from the south are going to pull Clinton through [in FL]

    MaxwellsDemon
    November 8, 2016 at 8:23 pm
    What’s going on in NC? It looks like Trump is doing terrible

    TexasR
    November 8, 2016 at 8:24 pm
    That’s what happens when you repel college educated whites, which have been the base of the Republican party presidentially for decades and decades.

    CyHawk
    November 8, 2016 at 8:23 pm
    It’s sounding like Blunt, Toomey Ayotte are going down. Even with Burr win that would be D +5 and 51 seats. Ugh!

    Izengabe
    November 8, 2016 at 8:28 pm
    Wow! Pence took one for the team and seems to have saved the IN GOP

    CyHawk
    November 8, 2016 at 8:36 pm
    [Trump] should have visited OH in the last weekend instead of ignoring it for more reach states

    MosheM
    November 8, 2016 at 8:40 pm
    Loads of Broward and Palm Beach are still out.

    GerGOP
    November 8, 2016 at 8:42 pm
    Looks like I seriously screwed up on the POTUS race, but I thought Trump would be doing better. Being behind this much in NC…. jeez.

    Ryan_in_SEPA
    November 8, 2016 at 8:51 pm
    Yea I am pretty Clinton wins [Florida]. The suburban numbers are horrible.

    MaxwellsDemon
    November 8, 2016 at 8:50 pm
    Deep breaths. Deep breaths. Even if Trump wins Ohio, NC, FL, he doesnt look like he’s coming close anywhere else

    GerGOP
    November 8, 2016 at 8:52 pm
    Trump is going down in flames.

    GerGOP
    November 8, 2016 at 8:53 pm
    No. If Trump had a real shot, he’d lead in NC by now.

    GerGOP
    November 8, 2016 at 9:13 pm
    Breath, Tekzilla. The moment one of those bigger states get called for Clinton, [the markets] bounce back.

    ike56
    November 8, 2016 at 9:18 pm
    Buck up, GF; she’ll pull it out, it will just take longer. But, I see your point; a less controversial Dem could have put this election to bed by now.

  471. DW says:

    And then this guy posts at RRH, and is quickly booed and shouted down by the regulars:

    indocon
    November 8, 2016 at 9:18 pm
    This blog should be renamed “Red Racing Ponies”….come on guys, our man might actually win this thing….just look at Mexican Peso, went down 5% in last 2 mns

  472. Messy says:

    Verified account

    @Scaramucci
    Follow Follow @Scaramucci
    More
    You can’t simultaneously argue that family separation isn’t happening, that it’s being used as a deterrent, that the Bible justifies it and that it’s @TheDemocrats fault. @POTUS is not being served well by his advisors on this issue.

  473. DW says:

    more…

    MosheM
    November 8, 2016 at 9:21 pm
    Free Press projection: Hillary Clinton wins Michigan https://t.co/pcPhP8vKPV via @freep

    GerGOP
    November 8, 2016 at 9:24 pm
    It’ll take the major networks more time, but yes.

    GerGOP
    November 8, 2016 at 9:26 pm
    Trump needs to do well in CO. He won’t win VA, he won’t win MI, so he hasn’t breached the firewall that Clinton has built. But her numbers are comfortable in CO, so for all the bed wetting that’s going on with Dems right now (and the “suspense” fueled by Fox), I have yet to see a convincing reason as to why people are starting to think that Trump might win this.

    pack2010
    November 8, 2016 at 9:27 pm
    It’s a lot closer than what I thought it would be, but I think Clinton still wins.

    GerGOP
    November 8, 2016 at 9:38 pm
    Tons of good clinton counties are out in MI and Trump isn’t getting anywhere where he’d need to be to even make PA somewhat competitive. Like Rove said: Even if Trump wins FL and OH and NC, he will still lose. He still has to find a brick in the blue wall and pull it out. I don’t see him doing that.

    GerGOP
    November 8, 2016 at 9:42 pm
    I wrote to a friend of mine that the absolute best possible scenario (because no, Trump won’t win, I’ll repeat that like a mantra for the next hours) is a close Clinton victory and a GOP congress. If the Dems only flip IL (which I don’t think, they still have shots in other races), that’d make me … not happy, but satisfied.

    GerGOP
    November 8, 2016 at 9:46 pm
    CO looking neat for Clinton. One of the bricks Trump would need to pull away.

    –at this point, most on RRH know Trump is likely to win, But GerGOP kept on going as though Hillary was inevitable.

  474. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Tina
    Ex-AG Lynch is in a heap of legal jeopardy if this Paul Sperry article is accurate. (Of course, Moron Messy cares only about the Mooch’s pearls of wisdom.)

    https://nypost.com/2017/07/06/new-holes-in-loretta-lynchs-story-on-the-hillary-probe/

  475. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Messy
    Any tears for these Chicago youths or,in your world, who cares since these are American children.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-weekend-violence-20180618-story.html

    But,but the kids at the Border!

  476. DW says:

    Gravis poll from MT bad for GOP.

    Tester 51
    Rosendale 44

    Williams 49
    Gianforte 43

  477. jason says:

    DW, those are fun to read… is there a link to their election night comments?

  478. Wobbles says:

    I wonder what kind of MSM propaganda I can parrot here today.

  479. DW says:

    493 – just go to their archives, pick November 2016, then click Older posts at the bottom until it backs up to Election day threads.

  480. jason says:

    Japan scores!

    2 x 1 against Colombia (playing with 10 men).

  481. jason says:

    Do you have to register to see the archives?

  482. jason says:

    No, I see you don’t.

  483. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #492
    In the Gravis Poll, look at the data on question 21. It shows a 7 pt. spread between those who voted for The Donald over The Clinton.
    The spread in 2016 was Trump by 20 pts.–56/36.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/Gravis_Montana_June_2018.pdf

  484. Chicon says:

    Seems that joint is loaded with Robbie’s.

  485. mnw says:

    50/48 again today

    DW

    I don’t regard the MT numbers as bad. Incumbent at 51%? Is that GOOD, really? Rosendale hasn’t run an ad yet (except internet) & lacks Tester’s name recognition.

    Your RRH memory lane posts are funny & confirm all of my/our suspicions.

    Contra Wes, I FIRMLY believe that vastblightkingconspiracy is FAR FAR worse than boehnerwasright.

  486. mnw says:

    I believe the trolls will go 100% full tilt boogie on ‘muh cage children crying’!’ for awhile.

  487. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #501
    My vote is for roguemapper! A smug, condescending know-it-all!

  488. DW says:

    Apparently from what someone at RRH says, 16% in that MT sample did not vote in 2016?
    Really? A huge chunk of new voters over a POTUS election year? Skeptical.

  489. Phil says:

    502

    I think you’re right. I mean, what are they going to discuss? The economy?

  490. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #504
    Yes, even the squishes at RRH are calling the MT Gravis Poll trash.

  491. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Here is another Gravis Marketing Poll,this time of Florida. Even the RRH eeyores are not buying these odd results including Nelson(D) +10 over Scott(R) in the 2018 Senate race.

    http://orlando-politics.com/2018/06/19/gravis-marketing-florida-poll-andrew-gillum-leads/

  492. mnw says:

    Sheep

    Personally I wouldn’t so do far as two trash the Gravis, but I keep thinking of the huge disparity in the GOP’s favor in the primary turnout. Admittedly the GOP had more meaningful races in the primary, though.

    roguemapper is an interesting choice. So many to choose from! I still say you can’t go wrong with VRKC, however. He’s their fireman! Whenever anyone posts something hopeful about the GOP, he appears instantly to rebut it. Check it out. He holds himself out as a Republican, but if he is, then I”m a one-legged Chinese lesbian.

  493. mnw says:

    508 sb “so far” and “to trash”

  494. dblaikie says:

    Trey Gowdy had a fiery speech this morning. Memorable to say the least.

    On another matter, I don’t trust any poll. But Gravis is at the top of the list for producing bogus polls. The funny thing is, I believe that they are a GOP polling firm. DW or anyone else am I right about that?

  495. Redmen4ever says:

    In addition to the enormous difference in that look back question, here’s two other concerns:

    Gianforte won a special election in 2017 by 5 points. He’s fallen by 11 points why?

    According to Gallup, Republicans had a 14 point partisan advantage in 2017, and this sample gives them a 10 point advantage. That’s not as large as the difference in the look-back, but there it is.

    Montana is a hard state to poll in that practically everybody is white so that weighting by demographics doesn’t correct the tendency of Republicans to not respond to polls. Response bias is the big bug bear that pollsters deal with nowadays (and media polls manipulate in a variety of ways).

    I think what the takeaway is that Montana is close and we have as good a chance of picking up the Senate seat as we do of retaining the House seat. Both may be toss-ups.

  496. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #510
    Gravis is not a GOP polling firm
    With respect to FL, in April,2017,it had Nelson(D) +28 over Scott(R).

  497. DW says:

    510 – I do not believe they are technically a GOP firm. You will never see them listed as Gravis-R. But they have been like a car swerving back and forth hitting both guardrails trying to get a quality product. Sometimes they are OK, sometimes they are out in left field. Overall, not the most reliable.

  498. dblaikie says:

    512 Thanks! That April is bogus just on its face. Scott is not unpopular in Florida.

  499. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #511
    The Gravis MT Poll shows The Donald’s approval/disapproval at 50/47,respectively. Accurate? Probably not.

  500. dblaikie says:

    As usual, DW, I appreciate your knowledge of these firms.

  501. hugh says:

    Tester would lose if the election where held today. If the economy is growing at 4% in October he will lose comfortably. He has nothing in common with MT.

  502. mnw says:

    Well gang, if the GOP incumbent loses the MT at-large House seat? Then the blue wave will be a tsunami, & the DEMs will pick up 75-80 seats, imo.

    Again, as Redmen said in 511 , why would Gianforte drop 11 points suddenly? Was there a sex scandal I didn’t hear about? A felony arrest? Did he go online & say the Nazis had a lot of good ideas?

    I always thought Gravis was a GOP pollster too.

    Btw, the Gravis FL poll makes me feel a lot better about their MT poll.

  503. Redmen4ever says:

    In Virginia, Gravis had a poll during the final week that was consistent with the average of others pollsters. It showed the Democrat to be 5 points ahead. The Democrat won by 8 points.

    In Alabama, Gravis had a series of polls. The polls showed that support for the Republican plummeted after certain accusations were made, then recovering, and then showed his support eroding. My final polling average showed the Republican 2.5 points ahead. The Democrat won by 1.5 points. Gravis showed the Democrat ahead by 4 points the week before, and the Republican 4 points ahead the week of. These differences could have been due to sampling error.

    In both Virginia and Alabama, the narrative is that Democrats turned-out the vote, because of their greater enthusiasm and their ground game.

    As tough as polling is, the polls are informative. Doesn’t mean they’re always within the MOE or that they’re not biased. Having said these things, there are – as would be expected from sampling theory – some bum polls out there.

  504. DW says:

    Here is but one example of how Gravis tends to be all over, and why at times the left thinks they are right-wing and other times the right thinks they are left (hence the guardrails analogy). The 2014 senate races:

    Arkansas 51/44, actual 57/39 – final poll wasn’t close to election so not a knock on them.
    Colorado 48/43, actual 48/46 – pretty accurate on Gardner beating Udall.
    Iowa 49/43, actual 52/44 – only two points off on the margin, again well done.
    Kansas 45/47, actual 53/43 – totally off base and did not read the electorate correctly at all. (left lean)
    Kentucky 50/47, actual 56/41 – again totally missed this one on the margin. (left lean)
    Louisiana 59/38, actual 56/44 – over inflated GOP strength (right lean)
    Montana 53/39, actual 58/40 – underestimated GOP strength (left lean)
    New Mexico 36/53, actual 44/56 – not too far off.
    North Carolina 47/46, actual 49/47 – nailed it pretty much.

    So you can see how sometimes they are spot on, sometimes they lean left, sometimes they lean right, but OFTEN they are criticized!

  505. dblaikie says:

    Gowdy is tearing it up and blowing their was no bias up in a ton of incendiary rhetoric and hard hitting questions that will not soon be forgotten. It is about damn time!!!!

  506. DW says:

    From RRH___https://mobile.twitter.com/HotlineJosh/status/1009084352402206722
    Three swing-district polls (June 12-14) by Global Strategy Group (D) show Trump in okay shape.
    #FL26 (Curbelo): Trump fav 46/48 (-2), Curbelo fav 42/27 (+15)
    #NJ07 (Lance): Trump fav 46/50 (-4); Lance fav 44/30 (+14)
    #TX07 (Culberson): Trump fav 44/51; Culberson fav 37/31 (+6).

  507. mnw says:

    I do agree with Wes that Rosendale’s decision not to attend the ‘debate’ (joint interview) right after the primary was a mistake.

    My guess is, he & his people thought he didn’t have enough time to prepare properly for the msm’s hostile questions, but… if so, that was a timid, risk-averse decision.

    Risk-averse is not a good thing for a challenger. What would Donald Trump do?*

    *my variation on “What would Jesus do?”

    Do you know how many times Spellcheck has changed “msm” to “mom” or “mum”?

  508. Redmen4ever says:

    Regarding Trump’s job approval, Gravis puts him a +4 in Montana.

    Reuters has Trump at -13 nationally. But, in Montana, aggregating over the past half year, Trump has the highest approval. Montana is one of 9 states colored dark green in their latest heat map, indicated Trump’s approval is in the 50 to 60 percent range. Assuming 4 percent have no opinion, this means Trump is running from +4 to +18. So, Gravis has probably understated Trump’s approval in Montana by something like 10 points, relative to Reuters.

    See slide #10

    https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2018-06/2018_reuters_tracking_-_core_political_06_13_2018.pdf

    (Perhaps somebody can locate a table with the actual numbers by state.)

  509. DW says:

    FL_26 is nine positions BELOW the magic cutoff line for Dem control, NJ_07 two slots above the line, and TX_07 three above the line.

    Strange they didn’t release actual matchup numbers, but this was a dem firm, so maybe the numbers were too depressing to them.

  510. DW says:

    But Gonzalez seems to be on track with FL_26 being Tilt R, while the others are all tossup. Hard to see them replacing a candidate sitting at +15 favorability as measured by a D firm.

  511. DW says:

    and talk about a push poll…look at one of the questions they asked:

    If this were all you knew about two candidates for Congress this year… If you had a choice between voting for a candidate who…

    -Supports the Trump Administration’s policy that separates migrant children from their parents OR -Opposes the Trump Administration’s policy that separates migrant children from their parents

  512. Robbie says:

    Cool. I guess Laura Ingraham will be sending her children to these “summer camps” this year.

    Mediaite
    @Mediaite

    Fox News’ Laura Ingraham: Child Detention Centers Are ‘Essentially Summer Camps’ (VIDEO) http://mediaite.com/a/yiyry

  513. Robbie says:

    Important note. When a Republican trails in a race that wasn’t expected to be competitive, it’s a push poll. It has nothing to do with the national atmosphere that is toxic for the Republican party.

  514. Phil says:

    527

    Now that’s what I call a real push poll. LOL

  515. DW says:

    Updated dashboard with those three favorability polls in there:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics)
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) / 37/31 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP)/ 44/30 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 42/27 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R)
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 —
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  516. DW says:

    529 – you missed the point of the poll. It was actually a GOOD set of polls for the GOP, and was done by a Dem firm with push questions in it.

  517. DW says:

    But then again, Blankenship ‘nearly won’ WV, so I can see how you would read those GSG polls and see good news for the Dems.

  518. Chicon says:

    533 – yep, Blankenship lost a squeaker.

  519. Robbie says:

    I’m confused. If Mexico is going to pay for the wall, then why is Trump threatening to shut down the government if Congress doesn’t pay for the wall?

    Burgess Everett
    @burgessev

    Burgess Everett Retweeted Burgess Everett
    According to person familiar with meeting, the president explicitly threatened to shut down the government if he doesn’t get sufficient border security funding

  520. Hugh says:

    The gop are tearing apart the dems and ig in this hearing. Dems look shrill but they have a bad hand given the facts.

  521. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 11:32 am
    533 – yep, Blankenship lost a squeaker.

    – Yep, the DNC had Seth Rich murdered just as you believed.

  522. Phil says:

    You are missing the View, Robbie.

  523. mnw says:

    Thx, DW. You the man.

    A “push poll” is a term of art, i.e., it means something very specific– that the ultimate question (“Who will you vote for?”) was preceded by other questions (“Did you know the Republican nominee screws hogs?”) designed to INFLUENCE the answer on the ultimate question.

    THAT is a push poll. Anything else ISN’T a push poll. Most regular posters knew that already, of course.

  524. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    June 19, 2018 at 11:27 am
    But then again, Blankenship ‘nearly won’ WV, so I can see how you would read those GSG polls and see good news for the Dems.

    – Due to the polling of Morrisey and Jenkins that showed Blakenship either tied or leading, McConnell and other Republicans spent the final weekend of the WV primary desperately trying to get Trump to tweet that voters shouldn’t vote for Blankenship.

    But muh fake polls or something.

  525. DW says:

    One thing I was right about in the baseball world…back on May 3rd the Mets were swept at home by Atlanta in a three game series by a combined score of 21-2. An absolute slaughter. Very demoralizing on the psyche of a team.

    Before that series the Mets were 17-9 and after that series they were 17-12.

    At that time I announced that this was the tipping point and the Mets season was over. They were toast. Done. Other Mets fans here said I was way off, it was way too early, I was too reactionary, and so forth.

    Well, they have gone 14-26 since that date, and now are ten games back, battling to hold on to hold on to 4th place in the standings and the talk is not about a pennant race but about which pieces they might unload to the Yankees in exchange for future prospects.

    So I was right. That moment was the end of their season.

  526. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 19, 2018 at 11:38 am
    You are missing the View, Robbie.

    – Oh, so you’ve moved on from claiming I watch Morning Joe to claiming I watch the View all because I don’t share your optimistic view of glorious dear leader Trump.

    How was last night’s episode of Levin TV? Have your eardrums recovered from all of his ranting and high pitched screaming?

    And if glorious dear leader Trump’s child separation policy is so MAGArrific, why is Ted Cruz pushing a bill to end Trump’s draconian policy?

  527. DW says:

    Even RRH is saying the GSG-D poll of FL_26 is good news for the GOP.

  528. Phil says:

    Just trying to help, Robbie. Didn’t want you to miss any juicy talking points from that intellectual giant Joy Behar on “caged children”

    As far as Morning Joe, I naturally assumed you caught him earlier.

    Still on the Trump ripping children away from the immigrants without papers kick I see. Glad to see you suddenly find it so important now as opposed to when it was done in the age of Obama. Better late than never I guess.

  529. DW says:

    In that same discussion of the Mets from May 3 I mentioned that I didn’t like the play of Jay Bruce at all. The Mets shouldn’t have re-signed him as his sun has set. I was again told I was too reactionary, and so forth, that in the end he would hit 30 home runs. On May 3 he only had a couple of homers. Its now 6/19 and the all-star break is just a few weeks away, and Jay Bruce has all of THREE homers, and is batting .212.

    And he is tied for 3rd on the roster in plate appearances, so its not like he has been on the DL.

    I think the Mets will improve some, and maybe even get back to .500 if Cespedes gets healthy. With the outfield of Cespedes, Nimmo and Conforto, they almost have to improve. The less Bruce plays the more chance they have to actually get runs.

  530. Robbie says:

    Total cuck move. Don’t they know the detention centers are like summer camp?

    Zeke Miller
    @ZekeJMiller

    Inbox: Faith & Freedom Urges End to Family Separation At Border: Congress Must Act to Protect Families and Repair “Broken and Immoral” Immigration System

  531. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 19, 2018 at 11:53 am

    Still on the Trump ripping children away from the immigrants without papers kick I see. Glad to see you suddenly find it so important now as opposed to when it was done in the age of Obama. Better late than never I guess.

    – BUT OBAMA!!!!!! That makes everything ok.

    You better tell Ted Cruz this because he’s pushing a bill that stops family separation.

    Since you think it’s ok, I assume you’ve applied for the job of separating kids from their parents?

    Also, I like the WOP reference you threw in there as well.

  532. Robbie says:

    The Republican platform in 2020 should be the shortest in party history.

    It will simply read – “To own the libs”

  533. Phil says:

    BTW, Robbie, Beto wants to know if you’ve mailed that campaign check yet.

  534. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 19, 2018 at 11:57 am
    BTW, Robbie, Beto wants to know if you’ve mailed that campaign check yet.

    – Is this the best you’ve got, Phil?

    Seriously, try harder.

    I’d vote for Cruz in heartbeat. I’ve already had to vote for Paul twice. And of course, you know this, but MAGA requires and “if you’re not with us, you’re against us” in perpetuity.

  535. jason says:

    DW, I looked over some of the comments…

    “GerGOP November 8, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    Mexican Pesos don’t win you states. Votes do. And the votes are headed Clinton’s way. It doesn’t matter if she wins with 270 votes, or 370. But she’ll hit 270 and I’m willing to eat crap if she doesn’t.”

  536. Wobbles says:

    I had no problem with Obama “separating families” because Obama….

    Let me see if I can find something convincing over at Huff Post or DKos and let me get back to you.

  537. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    June 19, 2018 at 12:10 pm
    I had no problem with Obama “separating families” because Obama….
    Let me see if I can find something convincing over at Huff Post or DKos and let me get back to you.

    – Jason fraud – “Whenever glorious dear leader Trump does something idiotic, I just deflect by saying “but Obama” and that makes the problem go away. MAGA!”

  538. jason says:

    Phil, I am sure Amoral Scumbag has mailed Beto a check.

    According to MSNBC, Beto has “almost” caught up to Cruz just like Blakenship “almost” won the primary.

  539. jason says:

    Whenever glorious dear leader Trump does something idiotic, I just deflect by saying “but Obama””

    No, Amoral Scumbag, I am just pointing out one more example of your “selective morality”.

    You have the moral compass of an earthworm, so its always hilarious when you feign moral outrage for anything.

    Everyone here knows its pure theater.

  540. DW says:

    551 – wow…that guy was in deep. By 9:20 pm anyone paying attention knew the race was now a coin-toss but Trump had the momentum.

  541. DW says:

    new CA_39 poll mentioned at RRH has GOP candidate up two points.

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics)
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP) | 44/30 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 42/27 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 —
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  542. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 19, 2018 at 12:15 pm
    Whenever glorious dear leader Trump does something idiotic, I just deflect by saying “but Obama””
    No, Amoral Scumbag, I am just pointing out one more example of your “selective morality”.

    – And I’m pointing out how you think “but Obama” makes the dumb crap Trump does ok.

  543. NYCmike says:

    Robbie is the real conservative who is AGAINST laws being carried out by the current administration.

    Heh!

  544. Phil says:

    Fact remains, not a peep out of you until now. Not a word so please save us your latent outrage about “the children”. It’s as phony as a three dollar bill.

  545. NYCmike says:

    Robbie is dialed up to 11 every day on the hysterics meter.

    At this rate, landing a plane on an aircraft carrier would make his blood pressure decrease.

  546. Blobbie says:

    Fact remains, not a peep out of you until now. Not a word
    —————————–

    I was only silent for 16 years … I did not have time to bring it up until now

    it is only a coincidence that it is the same week the dem leadership brought it up

  547. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    When possible, please make a list of the “catastrophes” which Trump has been responsible for over the past 2 years, and the results of all of yours and the media’s hyperventilating.

    I predict 52, one every other week. Maybe a couple less, which will take your Pogo Loco trips into consideration.

  548. NYCmike says:

    Robbie DID NOT answer Katie Pavlich’s question from yesterday……What happens to children of American citizens who commit crimes and are captured? Are the kids imprisoned with the parents, OR SEPARATED FROM THEM?

  549. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – If Trump does the same thing Obama did, Trump haters will go to absurd lengths to explain why Trump is evil. Trump supporters will go to absurd lengths to explain why it was terrible when Obama did it but necessary when Trump proposes it.

  550. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Very good article in Vanity Fair on the present immigration controversy. The writer is critical of Trump, but although liberal, realizes: “I’ve come to believe that limiting immigration and enforcing such limits are crucial to protecting poorer Americans from a race to the bottom and a winner-take-all-economy. My aim here isn’t to convert readers in 1,200 words over something that took many years…”

    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2018/06/trumps-immigration-policy-is-a-disgrace

  551. Chicon says:

    NYC, that’s a short list! Robbie’s list includes many things Trump inherited, too, like the Caged Kids kerfuffle.

    Remember, he’s morally outraged! This rises above party! Of course, he never talked about it until yesterday.

  552. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 19, 2018 at 1:44 pm
    Robbie is the real conservative who is AGAINST laws being carried out by the current administration.
    Heh!

    – I’m not surprised Mr. RAISE Act would get this wrong, but there is no law requiring Trump to separate children from their parents. Trump has chosen to make this his policy because he wants to use the plight of the separated children as a pawn in negotiations to get his wall.

    By the way, there won’t be a wall.

  553. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 19, 2018 at 1:44 pm
    Fact remains, not a peep out of you until now. Not a word so please save us your latent outrage about “the children”. It’s as phony as a three dollar bill.

    – Fact remains, you weren’t worried about muh deep state until glorious dear leader Trump started yapping the supposed deep state was out to get him.

  554. NYCmike says:

    Economic growth – 4%+

    No Korea – inevitable nuclear war seems to have passed (right now, anyway)

    Iran – sanctions again being pushed, European “allies” slowly coming to realize that our position is the more economically responsible action, as well as the better moral action.

    Historic employment figures for hispanics, blacks, and women (honestly, I do NOT like having to break out numbers for groups. We should be concerned with all peoples, not just certain groups of peoples).

    IG report exposing incompetence and corruption at the highest levels of law enforcement in our nation.

    BUT, let’s cry about camps where children are better off than they were in their home countries.

  555. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw checks in with the squish report……

  556. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I actually am making a compliment to refer to Robbie and/or CG as a troll. If a troll, he is simply just doing his job. If he is a real person, and engaging in such daily histrionics to audience he knows is not listening and hostile, he’s got serious issues.

  557. Phil says:

    “supposed” deep state.

    Comey refuses to testify before Grassley’s committee.

    McCabe takes the 5th.

    Lynch refuses to testify.

    Yeah, “supposed”. LOL

  558. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    568. “By the way, there won’t be a wall.”

    There already is a wall along much of the California/ Mexico border. It doesn’t work, nor will the new one.

  559. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 19, 2018 at 1:54 pm
    Robbie,
    When possible, please make a list of the “catastrophes” which Trump has been responsible for over the past 2 years, and the results of all of yours and the media’s hyperventilating.
    I predict 52, one every other week. Maybe a couple less, which will take your Pogo Loco trips into consideration.

    – And I predict, no matter what glorious dear leader Trump does, you will support him because you have deluded yourself into thinking Trump is a conservative who is going to give you all your heart desires.

    By the way, any idea how Senators Angle, Buck, COD, Mourdock, McDaniel, Brannon, and Wolfe plan to vote on Trump’s wall?

  560. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 19, 2018 at 1:59 pm
    Robbie DID NOT answer Katie Pavlich’s question from yesterday……What happens to children of American citizens who commit crimes and are captured? Are the kids imprisoned with the parents, OR SEPARATED FROM THEM?

    – I do not give two sh!ts what Katie Pavlich thinks.

  561. NYCmike says:

    “– I do not give two sh!ts what Katie Pavlich thinks.”

    -I’ll add her name to the list of people you willfully remain ignorant of.

    Key word in your response: “thinks”, as opposed to “feels”.

  562. NYCmike says:

    I’ll say once again:

    I ALWAYS read the links, or the tweets, you link to…..and then usually use facts to refute what that person says.

    You, on the other hand, REFUSE to listen to, or read, any person who states facts which conflict with the MSM lines you are currently parroting.

  563. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 2:13 pm
    NYC, that’s a short list! Robbie’s list includes many things Trump inherited, too, like the Caged Kids kerfuffle.
    Remember, he’s morally outraged! This rises above party! Of course, he never talked about it until yesterday.

    – Here’s a list.

    Conspiracies that chiclown believes”

    1. Obama used British intelligence to spy on Trump.
    2. The DNC had Seth Rich murdered.

  564. NYCmike says:

    Seth Rich!

    Pizzagate!

    Super sperm!

  565. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 19, 2018 at 2:15 pm

    No Korea – inevitable nuclear war seems to have passed (right now, anyway)

    – If Trump tweets it, it has to be true or something.

  566. NYCmike says:

    https://www.dailysignal.com/2018/06/15/sports-tickets-other-freebies-for-fbi-leakers-raise-bribery-issues-legal-experts-say/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    “The Justice Department’s Office of Inspector General noted that “dozens” of FBI agents had contact with the news media, and many were taking sports tickets, golf outings, and other gifts from reporters to whom they were leaking unauthorized information about a criminal investigation.”

    -Robbie’s preferred type of police state.

  567. NYCmike says:

    “– If Trump tweets it, it has to be true or something.”

    -Actually, I based that assertion on the LACK OF STORIES in the NY Times, WAPO, and on the Morning Joe about impending nuclear war because Trump called Kim “little Rocket Man” or some such idiocy.

  568. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    June 19, 2018 at 2:18 pm
    I actually am making a compliment to refer to Robbie and/or CG as a troll. If a troll, he is simply just doing his job. If he is a real person, and engaging in such daily histrionics to audience he knows is not listening and hostile, he’s got serious issues.

    – Mr. But Muh Rasmussen is here to claim Corey and I are the same person.

    By the way, I’m mocking you and the other fakes and phonies who spent the Obama years squealing like stuck pigs Obama did only praise glorious dear leader trump for doing the same.

    All that matters to you and the others like Jason fraud is whether someone has a R or a D after their name. If it’s a R, that makes everything OK.

  569. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 19, 2018 at 2:19 pm
    “supposed” deep state.
    Comey refuses to testify before Grassley’s committee.
    McCabe takes the 5th.
    Lynch refuses to testify.
    Yeah, “supposed”. LOL

    – MUH DEEP STATE IS SO STRONG THEY WERE ABLE TO MAKE SURE TRUMP LOST.

    Oh wait, that didn’t happen. I guess the deep state secretly wanted Trump to win so they could then attempt a silent coup.

  570. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 19, 2018 at 2:27 pm
    Seth Rich!
    Pizzagate!
    Super sperm!

    – Tell hiclown to admit he fell for those two laughable conspiracy theories and I’ll stop mocking him for that.

  571. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    A tactical mistake the Democrats have made is people are realizing that what they are basically advocating is “open borders.” That is not a policy most Americans support.

    An open border policy favors the tech and other business barons who support the Democrats, but is a disaster for the economic well-being of the middle class and workers.

  572. mnw says:

    DW 557

    CA-39 is halfway below the magic line, I note. Very good.

    I’m sure the DEMs can make that seat up by winning MT-At Large, though! /s

  573. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 19, 2018 at 2:30 pm
    “– If Trump tweets it, it has to be true or something.”
    -Actually, I based that assertion on the LACK OF STORIES in the NY Times, WAPO, and on the Morning Joe about impending nuclear war because Trump called Kim “little Rocket Man” or some such idiocy.

    – Has North Korea dismantled a single nuclear weapon since glorious dear leader Trump met with Kim?

    No.

    Will North Korea ever dismantle any nuclear weapons?

    No.

    Will North Korea stall, delay, and lie about denuclearization just as they did in 1992, 1994, 1999, and 2006?

    Yes.

  574. Messy says:

    528. No prisons. Youth prisons.

  575. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    584. “All that matters to you and the others like Jason fraud is whether someone has a R or a D after their name. If it’s a R, that makes everything OK.”

    Really. In the past you have criticized me because I am not even a Republican. Both Jason and I did not vote for Trump.

  576. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    590. “528. No prisons. Youth prisons.”

    So Messy, should we just have open borders and everyone who wants can come?

  577. mnw says:

    SDC

    Don’t be so gloomy about the wall. It hasn’t worked because the libs & the CoC/GOPe didn’t WANT it to work.

    All it takes is the political will, & there’s a new sheriff in town.

    I see “the wall” more as figure of speech meaning “effective immigration control” than a physical wall. That is achievable, imo– look how much improvement we’ve already seen since Zero slunk off.

  578. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    When someone breaks the law, they are put in jail. Should we now put their children in jail with them?

  579. Phil says:

    Read the IG report, Robbie. It speaks for itself.

    BTW, Gowdy laid it all this morning and made it as clear as clear can be.

    Nobody is even attempting to excuse the FBI texts at this point. The best the media can do is try and ignore it. Kind of like you do. BTW, I hope McCabe has a good lawyer.

  580. Chicon says:

    580 – NYC, sure signs that Robbie feels he’s lost a debate. Just like the rest of the liberals yapping breathlessly about the Cage Kids to distract from the real topics.

  581. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 19, 2018 at 2:48 pm
    Read the IG report, Robbie. It speaks for itself.

    – Yes, I’m sure you’ve read a 500 page report about the Clinton email scandal. I know I won’t because I don’t care about Hillary’s emails just as I didn’t care about the fake “Spygate” story, the “secret society” text, or the laughable Nunes memo that was going to blow the Mueller investigation out of the water. By the way, how’d that work out?

    But I guess you’re now arguing that, because Comey’s actions were inappropriate, he really did screw Hillary out of the election? Because that’s what the IG report was about. It was about the handling of the Hillary email scandal. Despite what glorious dear leader Trump continues to say, it didn’t dear one iota with collusion or obstruction.

    But muh deep state.

    because

  582. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 2:55 pm
    580 – NYC, sure signs that Robbie feels he’s lost a debate. Just like the rest of the liberals yapping breathlessly about the Cage Kids to distract from the real topics.

    – Lost the debate? That’s laughable, even for a conspiracy theorist like you. Have you seen the polling on the issue, chiclown?

    Quinnipiac
    Support- 27%
    Oppose- 66%

    IPSOS
    Support- 27%
    Oppose- 55%

    CBS
    Support- 27%
    Oppose- 66%

    Since when does 27% beat 66%? You and the Trump apologists are on the wrong side.

  583. Chicon says:

    589 – these are Flyboy’s hoped for outcome in each scenario. Unless, of course, JEB! is in office to get the credit. Squeaker doesn’t care about Korea nukes.

  584. Bitterlaw says:

    571 – Zzzzzzzz. At least NYC is completely loyal to Trump no matter what Trump says or does. Of course, NYC used to support Rand Paul but time moves on.

  585. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    593. “Don’t be so gloomy about the wall. It hasn’t worked because the libs & the CoC/GOPe didn’t WANT it to work.”

    They tunnel under the wall, and easily can go over it as well. It reminds me of the war against drugs, and how we were going to stop drugs from coming over the border. Was totally ineffective.

    Also, keep in mind that hundreds of thousands of Mexicans come over the border each day to work in the U.S. The Southern California economy, and other border states are dependent on them. A significant number of Americans now reside in Mexico, and commute over for business and work.

    Its a complex issue; when Obama adopted what amount to an open border policy it created total chaos. The major fundamental policy issue is should there be a totally open border or not; there are powerful Democratic economic interests who want it.

  586. Chicon says:

    598 – gotta spell it all out for you, eh? The topic you’re deflecting from here is your fake moral outrage – the moral outrage you put out there yourself. It is not even slightly believable given your silence on it prior to Trump entering office.

    You put it out there, got called on it, then deflect. It’s you MO, Squeaker.

  587. NYCmike says:

    ” At least NYC is completely loyal to Trump no matter what Trump says or does.”

    -The more you speak, the more obvious it becomes that your real problem is less with the pancreas and more with how your brain works.

    I am as “loyal” to Trump as I was to Obama, and Bush, and Clinton, etc……they are/were the President, deserve the respect due the office, and I will disagree verbally, and in the ballot box if needed, on a range of issues.

    I believe you do the same.

    NOW, please tell us how much you “hate” Trump for the umpteenth time.

  588. NYCmike says:

    “Since when does 27% beat 66%? You and the Trump apologists are on the wrong side.”

    -A vote on Iran sanctions?

  589. NYCmike says:

    Wrong side? THE LAW is the “wrong side”?

    What happens to kids of citizens who commit crimes? Do they go to jail with the parents?

    YES or NO?

    Give the people about 2 weeks, and those poll numbers will decline dramatically, and rise in favor of enforcing the law.

    Find your spine, you squish!

  590. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:06 pm
    589 – these are Flyboy’s hoped for outcome in each scenario. Unless, of course, JEB! is in office to get the credit. Squeaker doesn’t care about Korea nukes.

    – You’re all over the place, conspiracy theorist.

    I’m sorry the polls don’t back up the view you and glorious dear leader Trump hold, but then again the vast majority of the country doesn’t believe in conspiracy theories like the Seth Rich or birtherism as Trump did.

    Second, I do care about North Korea’s nuclear weapons. But unlike NYCmike, I don’t believe Trump’s photo-op last week was anything other than a photo-op. Trump went running to Kim when without getting a single concession before hand as he said he needed to meet with him. Then Trump got little more than a vague assurance to maybe do something about “denuclearization” down the even though the NoKo definition of that word is didn’t from ours. On the other hand, Trump stopped military exercises.

  591. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:12 pm
    598 – gotta spell it all out for you, eh? The topic you’re deflecting from here is your fake moral outrage – the moral outrage you put out there yourself. It is not even slightly believable given your silence on it prior to Trump entering office.
    You put it out there, got called on it, then deflect. It’s you MO, Squeaker.

    – Poor, chiclown. I guess because you’re a Trumper devoid of integrity, you just can’t imagine a world where other people actually do feel moral outrage as I do about forced family separation, Trump cheating on his wife three months after their son was born, the way GWB’s administration handled the aftermath of Katrina, or the way we handled the aftermath of the Iraq war.

  592. Chicon says:

    NYC – Substantive discussion with Flyboy is not fruitful, because….TDS, Severe, with psychotic features.

  593. NYCmike says:

    ” On the other hand, Trump stopped military exercises.”

    -LOL.

    GF, and others, refuted this talking point countless times, by showing the timetables for the next exercises, and what needs to happen before that time to ensure that the exercises are indeed stopped.

    You really are ridiculous.

  594. janz says:

    “when Obama adopted what amount to an open border policy it created total chaos. “

    So true. However, many of the policies and stances created in the Obama era resulted in either chaos or a downhill slide of where this country used to be.

    It was so typical of Obama to reflect on what he “inherited” from his predecessor, Pres. Bush, but, IMO, what DJT inherited from Obama was far worse.

  595. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:17 pm
    Wrong side? THE LAW is the “wrong side”?

    – This is why it’s so hard to deal with Trumpers. No matter how many times you tell them there is no law that requires children to be separated from parents they still believe there is one because Trump says there is.

    Again, there is NO law that requires separation. This is a policy Trump has decided to institute. But if there was a law (there’s not), Trumpaloos, why did glorious dear leader Trump only chose to start enforcing it last month? Why did Mr. Law and Order allow his own administration to break the law for 15 months previously?

  596. Chicon says:

    606 – Korea is a tough one for an irrational hater – either the nukes go away and Trump gets credit; or they don’t go away and Trump gets blame. We all know which you really prefer.

  597. Chicon says:

    607 – yet another deflection. If this is a moral outrage that rises above party, you’d have been talking about it for years. Fake outrage.

  598. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:22 pm
    NYC – Substantive discussion with Flyboy is not fruitful, because….TDS, Severe, with psychotic features.

    – Substantive discussion with a conspiracy theorist like you is difficult to have, but I try. But I thought you said last week you were no longer going to deal with me. Yet, here we are time after time.

    Your problem is you don’t like that the policy view you hold is so widely unpopular. Nor do you like the fact some people do feel moral outrage about forcibly separating children from parents.

    If you think it’s such a great idea, fly down to the border and apply for a job separating 3 year old children from their parents if you think it’s such a MAGArrific idea.

  599. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Please clarify:

    Is it AGAINST the law to separate the children from the parents who broke the law by coming here illegally?

    Was this done previously?

    Do they separate citizens who break the law from their children?

    Is it always clear that the children are actually being separated from their parents, or is that what the border patrol is attempting to ascertain, if the adults are truly the parents of the individual children?

    How did this become an issue the week after the IG report came out?

  600. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:23 pm
    ” On the other hand, Trump stopped military exercises.”
    -LOL.
    GF, and others, refuted this talking point countless times, by showing the timetables for the next exercises, and what needs to happen before that time to ensure that the exercises are indeed stopped.
    You really are ridiculous

    – Just yesterday, the Pentagon announced it was suspending the August military drill with South Korea.

    NYCmike, you’re the one who looks, as usual, ridiculous.

    http://time.com/5315547/south-korea-military-drills-suspended-trump-kim/

  601. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:29 pm
    607 – yet another deflection. If this is a moral outrage that rises above party, you’d have been talking about it for years. Fake outrage.

    – I don’t blame you, chiclown. You lost badly so you’re trying to claim that anything which doesn’t fit your view is deflection.

    As a Trumper, you just can’t imagine that anyone would feel moral outrage at such a terrible set of circumstances on the border.

  602. Chicon says:

    615 – your fever has negatively affected your reading comprehension even further. I said you’re not worth a substantive discussion because you’ve gone batsh!t crazy over Trump. Calling out the stupidity and wild inconsistencies in your posts is not substantive discussion.

  603. Phil says:

    The FBI text messages are clear and they are in plain English, Robbie. I don’t need to spell it out.

    As far as the collusion and obstruction stuff goes there hasn’t been a shred of evidence. None. Still waiting.

    BTW, no more Stormy? That’s all you could talk about for two weeks. On to “children in cages”. What will it be next week? Waiting for Rucker and Bernstein to come up with somethig new? I can’t wait.

    Bring back Stormy or maybe Hogg can come up with something.

  604. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Interesting that Robbie is attacking both Jason and I on the border issue. Jason is from Chile, my significant other is from Brazil. Yet we are targets of the righteous zeal of the concerned troll.

  605. Chicon says:

    618 – why did you not express this moral outrage until the past few days?

  606. Chicon says:

    620 – Stormy’s tour came to Chicago last week, but she had a dispute with the club owner – apparently she refused to rehearse and demanded more money than the amount agreed upon.

    In the words of former guv Blago, she’s got this thing and it is effing golden…

  607. Phil says:

    622 – because he takes his cues from his leftist media friends as far as both subject and timing. It’s the same with him week after week. Nothing changes – ever. Same pattern over and over.

  608. Robbie says:

    Hey, Trumpers. Here’s a new strategy for you to try. Just be like Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter and claim the pictures of the crying children at he border are fakes.

    Mediaite
    @Mediaite

    Rush Limbaugh: Photos of Children at Border are ‘Fakes’ Designed for People Who are ‘Wimps’ About Kids http://mediaite.com/a/rdhax

  609. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:40 pm
    618 – why did you not express this moral outrage until the past few days?

    – Why do you refuse to admit that you fell for two laughable conspiracy theories?

  610. NYCmike says:

    “NYCmike, you’re the one who looks, as usual, ridiculous.”

    -If getting something wrong is ridiculous, then YES, I am guilty as charged. It has happened many times already, and will happen many more times in the future.

    NOW, please let me know, since our ALLIES in the region are OK with the suspension of exercises, and we showed the world, once again, that we are flexible in the pursuit of peace, HOW IS THIS A BAD THING?

  611. janz says:

    Migrant Crisis is About the Drug Cartel.

    A short piece looking at another angle dealing with the retention-of-children-at-the-border issue.  What caught my attention, though, was the following excerpt:

    ” The cartels don’t just benefit from being paid by these migrant families desperate to get away from the violence in Central America. Every family group the cartels send across ties up the Border Patrol for hours. Back in 2014 when unaccompanied minors were flooding across in large groups, U.S. authorities were well aware that the cartels were taking drugs just a few miles upstream while they dealt with the minors, but there was nothing they could do about it. They were hamstrung by their own humanitarian policies.

    We are continuing to be hamstrung by the hysteria of the dem’s disdainful finger pointing at policies very similar to ones embraced by former presidents — from Clinton to Obama.  Furthermore, with our current opioid epidemic associated with high death rates, as well as rampant homelessness that is also associated with drug addiction, why are the dems such advocates of open borders, unvetted illegal migrants, all leading to a greater ease of drug traffic crossing into the U.S.? 

  612. Phil says:

    Always answers a question with a question. When he doesn’t have an answer he asks another question.

  613. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:44 pm
    622 – because he takes his cues from his leftist media friends as far as both subject and timing. It’s the same with him week after week. Nothing changes – ever. Same pattern over and over.

    – Phil’s go-to response when someone doesn’t agree with him is to claim the other person is being brainwashed by the leftist media. It’s the DEEP STATE! IT’S A SILENT COUP!

  614. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Please respond to janz’s “wild conspiracy theories” about the cartels.

  615. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:51 pm
    Always answers a question with a question. When he doesn’t have an answer he asks another question.

    – Sorry I didn’t write on this forum four years ago that I objected to Obama’s handling of immigrants at the border. Come to think of it, I don’t remember you writing here that you approved of it either. Why are you only waiting until now to say you support it?

  616. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:51 pm
    Robbie,
    Please respond to janz’s “wild conspiracy theories” about the cartels.

    – No. I’ll pass.

  617. Chicon says:

    Phil, Squeaker doesn’t answer that question because there’s no good answer. The sudden presence of the moral outrage means the moral outrage is fake.

  618. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    All of Robbie’s posts reflect the Democratic talking points of the day. He is working of a script. There is never any human side to Robbie, we know something about the lives of most posters on the board. Not Robbie troll.

  619. Chicon says:

    632 – Lol. So weak… The outrage is Trump outrage, you phony. And Jason is the fraud….

    You should stick to election predictions. Oh, wait…

  620. janz says:

    #625 Some of the photos are ones from 2014 — the Obama era of immigration containment. Others are taken without much context around them. However, whatever the circumstances, seeing a crying child is always heartbreaking, and that’s the underlying intention, IMO, of flooding the media with audio and photographic snapshots of an overloaded border. While such coverage does create sympathy, there are few attempts to construct policies and reforms addressing these problems.

  621. NYCmike says:

    Ok, Robbie has done well. ALL of us here are speaking about these “suffering children”.

  622. NYCmike says:

    “You should stick to election predictions. Oh, wait…”

    -Heh.

  623. Phil says:

    630

    ….or maybe it has to do with you constantly linking, quoting, or citing every left wing hack that says anything negative about Trump.

    I don’t think you’re brainwashed. I think your hatred of Trump is so pronounced you mindlessly accept as gospel every left wing source you can get your hands on. Sources, BTW that any rational Republican (something you claim to be) would at the very least take with a grain of salt. You slurp it all up and immediately post it over here. You just regurgitate all of it all the time. You never stop and it could be over any issue or event.

  624. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:58 pm
    Phil, Squeaker doesn’t answer that question because there’s no good answer. The sudden presence of the moral outrage means the moral outrage is fake.

    – I have to give chiclown credit. Every day he takes his slavish Trump taint licking to new heights.

    Now, a person can’t express moral outrage about Trump’s policy of forcibly separating immigrant children from their parents if that person didn’t come to this forum and express similar outrage over something Obama did four years ago.

    Well since chiclown wasn’t here in 2014 (he’s lying when he claims he was a lurker for 12 years), he would know in the Summer of 2014 this forum was almost exclusively about the actual Senate campaigns. Why? Because we didn’t have to deal with a psychotic president from the Republican Party who was doing things each and every day to hurt the chances of his party to survive in 2018.

    Back when the populist Trump trolls weren’t here, the discussion was between Author, Jason fraud, EML, Phil, NYCmike, Tinfoil, and a few others about the actual races.

  625. Phil says:

    Anyway, I’m done for this afternoon. Enough of this.

  626. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    June 19, 2018 at 3:59 pm
    All of Robbie’s posts reflect the Democratic talking points of the day. He is working of a script. There is never any human side to Robbie, we know something about the lives of most posters on the board. Not Robbie troll.

    – This is new level of bullsh!t from Mr. But Rasmussen. I’ve been part of this forum since October 2004. Where were you before glorious dear leader Trump came onto the scene in 2015? How do I know you’re not just a pro Trump troll who just has come to filate Trump?

  627. hugh says:

    Kids come over 1000 miles in terrible conditions transported by gang members in many cases. They often come from areas with out plumbing, bad nutrition and lousy or no schools. The conditions are much better here in the centers than anything back home. Separating them from parents should be resolved, but not by releasing them because they will never come back for their hearings.

  628. lisab says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    June 19, 2018 at 2:20 pm
    568. “By the way, there won’t be a wall.”

    There already is a wall along much of the California/ Mexico border. It doesn’t work, nor will the new one.
    ———————————————-

    from NPR,

    San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control
    April 6, 20064:37 PM ET
    Heard on Morning Edition
    TED ROBBINS

    As Congress looks to revamp immigration policy, some lawmakers are pushing to extend fencing along the U.S. border with Mexico. Proposals range from beefing up existing fences in Arizona to constructing new fences that would span 700 miles. Those advocating expanded fencing already have a model they can look to: a fence the federal government built more than a decade ago along a 14-mile-stretch in San Diego, Calif., that borders Tijuana, Mexico.

    Before the fence was built, all that separated that stretch of Mexico from California was a single strand of cable that demarcated the international border.

    Back then, Border Patrol agent Jim Henry says he was overwhelmed by the stream of immigrants who crossed into the United States illegally just in that sector.

    “It was an area that was out of control,” Henry says. “There were over 100,000 aliens crossing through this area a year.”

    Today, Henry is assistant chief of the Border Patrol’s San Diego sector. He says apprehensions here are down 95 percent, from 100,000 a year to 5,000 a year, largely because the single strand of cable marking the border was replaced by double — and in some places, triple — fencing.
    ——————————————

    down 95% is pretty good, and that was from NPR not exactly a conservative bastion

  629. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “forcibly separating immigrant children from their parents”

    When you use the term “immigrant children”, are you saying these individuals have a right to come to the U.S.?

  630. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 4:01 pm
    632 – Lol. So weak… The outrage is Trump outrage, you phony. And Jason is the fraud….
    You should stick to election predictions. Oh, wait…

    – LOL. So weak. You won’t even disavow two laughable conspiracy theories.

    And as for my election predictions, chiclown, you should know before 2016 I had a great track record since you claim to have been a 12 year lurker.

    I got 2004 right as you know since you were a lurker here.

    I predicted major losses in both chambers in 2006 and was right.

    I predicted McCain was going to suffer a major loss in 2008 while the others here believed the delbov curve and the Bradley effect would save McCain.

    I predicted a 45 or more seat gain in the House in 2010. I did get Fiorina’s race wrong. I though she’d win.

    I predicted early on that Romney would ultimately come up short much to Jason fraud’s displeasure.

    I predicted a 7 seat gain in the Senate in 2014. I missed on NC and KS.

    Of course, you know all of this since you were a lurker in this forum going back to 2004, right?

  631. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 19, 2018 at 4:05 pm
    630
    ….or maybe it has to do with you constantly linking, quoting, or citing every left wing hack that says anything negative about Trump.
    I don’t think you’re brainwashed. I think your hatred of Trump is so pronounced you mindlessly accept as gospel every left wing source you can get your hands on. Sources, BTW that any rational Republican (something you claim to be) would at the very least take with a grain of salt. You slurp it all up and immediately post it over here. You just regurgitate all of it all the time. You never stop and it could be over any issue or event.

    – Unlike you, my position on Trump is the same today as it was when he announced his run in June 2015. I wrote all throughout the second half of 2015 and all through 2016 Trump was unfit to serve and was a fake who would be a terrible president and wreck the party.

    Maybe you were willing to change your view after Trump won, but winning doesn’t change who a person is. To that point, I remember you questioning Trump mental standing in the Fall of 2016.

    But by all means, suggest I’m not a real Republican. I guess my straight party voting starting in 1996 for the party really doesn’t count since I find Trump (a democrat as recently as 2009) the person to be a despicable personal who has no business being president.

  632. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    June 19, 2018 at 4:15 pm
    “forcibly separating immigrant children from their parents”
    When you use the term “immigrant children”, are you saying these individuals have a right to come to the U.S.?

    – No.

  633. Robbie says:

    Before Trump came along, the Republican Party believed in free trade and opposed tariffs. Now, I guess noting the disastrous effects of tariff and the resulting trade war is actually just being brainwashed by muh liberal media talking points, right?

    Also, trade wars are good and easy to win.

    CNBC Now
    @CNBCnow

    Dow falls more than 400 points, or 1.6%, as Trump threatens China with more tariffs
    https://cnb.cx/2yqo9KI

  634. DW says:

    Confirmed that CA_39 poll showing the Republican up 2 was in fact a Dem internal poll.

  635. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    645. “down 95% is pretty good, and that was from NPR not exactly a conservative bastion”

    Liz, be serious. Its a government claim. Below is a Voice of San Diego article on the subject which goes to my point. Anyone who wants to get across the border can, if they have sufficient money to pay to cross. I know a lot of people here illegally. California is now offering them many benefits. Through various means, they often cross over the border to visit family, etc.

    “There are several reasons why. (President Donald) Trump’s rhetoric during his campaign was very aggressive and provoked Mexicans and changed the way they think about the U.S. Some no longer see it see it as the land of opportunity.
    But it also goes back to the economic crisis of 2008. That caused many Mexicans to become unemployed, and it made them see that there weren’t many opportunities in the U.S. A lot of Mexicans who already lived in the U.S. started moving back to Mexico. It also has to do with the 2.8 million deportations under the Obama administration. Plus, add to the fact that prices for smuggling were going up at the same time. It started getting more difficult to cross. All that caused Mexicans to stop thinking about crossing over. That’s why the number of Mexicans heading over to the U.S is very small. Between 2009 and 2014, 1 million Mexicans returned voluntarily, some with kids who were born in the U.S. And during that same time, 870,000 Mexicans crossed illegally. More Mexicans came back then those who left for the U.S.

    https://www.voiceofsandiego.org/border/its-a-new-generation-of-smugglers-behind-the-business-of-illegal-border-crossings/

    The birth rate in Mexico has been going down, and economically people are doing better. In several decades there will not be that many people crossing from Mexico. Even now, a lot of the migrants are from places like Central America. Mexico is now beginning to enact strong border security along its southern border.

    I will also say Latin Americans play a vital role in the California, and other western state economies, I am by no means anti-immigrant. But it needs to be regulated by a legal system; it cannot be open borders.

  636. Robbie says:

    Clearly, no one in the HHR forum was polled on this.

    “By more than 3-1, 64 percent to 18 percent, those surveyed in a USA TODAY/Suffolk University Poll say the president doesn’t have the power to pardon himself.”

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/06/19/poll-if-trump-pardons-himself-most-would-back-impeachment/713479002/

    USA TODAY
    @USATODAY

    Pardon me? Most voters say Trump should be impeached if he pardons himself, poll shows

  637. Chicon says:

    TDS, Severe, with psychotic features.

  638. Wes says:

    Before Trump came along, the Republican Party believed in free trade and opposed tariffs.

    This is factually incorrect. Republicans supported tariffs as far back as the 1890s at least. Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge supported tariffes in the 1920s despite being otherwise laissez faire Presidents.

    In 1930, Herbert Hoover signed Smoot-Hawley and promptly helped wreck a weakened economy. Even the legendary Ronald Reagan imposed tariffs during the 1980s. More recently GWB imposed tariffs in 2002.

    Thus, it’s a myth to say Republicans opposd tariffs before Trump came along.

  639. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    651. “Confirmed that CA_39 poll showing the Republican up 2 was in fact a Dem internal poll.”

    DW, have you seen any new polls on the California 49th race? Although the Democratic candidates got more votes that the Republican one, the Democratic who made the run-off was not a strong candidate. Could see some Democrats switching to the Republican candidate in the general election.

  640. SoHope says:

    Democrats railed against tax cuts for outsourcing American jobs but now they are the front line defense against tariffs which are basically taxes on the outsourcing of American jobs.

    hypocrisy is a two-way street

  641. NYCmike says:

    “Dow falls more than 400 points, or 1.6%, as Trump threatens China with more tariffs.”

    -I knew I smelled a BUYING OPPORTUNITY!

    YES!

  642. NYCmike says:

    “Thus, it’s a myth to say Republicans opposd tariffs before Trump came along.”

    -Welcome, Wes, to the AFL-CIO Republican club!

  643. NYCmike says:

    ” Even the legendary Ronald Reagan imposed tariffs during the 1980s. More recently GWB imposed tariffs in 2002.”

    -Robbie to scream “WHATABOUTISM” in 3…..2…..1…..!

  644. jason says:

    to be a despicable personal who has no business being president.”

    Amoral scumbag, who has the moral character of a floating turd, calling anybody else despicable is hilarious.

  645. NYCmike says:

    ” Even the legendary Ronald Reagan imposed tariffs during the 1980s. More recently GWB imposed tariffs in 2002.”

    -Bitterlaw and jason should be checking in as well….

  646. jason says:

    Amoral scumbag is a “real Republican” who promised to come here to celebrate Obama’s win, was a shill for Hillary, and now wants the GOP to lose 40 seats as “revenge against Trump”.

  647. jason says:

    The Republican party always stood for free trade, free markets, free enterprise, and the fact that at times R Presidents caved to pressure to impose what at the time was limited and temporary tariffs doesn’t change that, nor did it make tariffs a brilliant idea.

    But enjoy your trade wars, higher prices, and slower growth, the AFL-CIO conservatives deserve them.

  648. lisab says:

    Much-investigated Carter Page is volunteering to help the FBI conduct its planned nation-wide anti-political bias training, saying he is an expert on the bureau’s “reign of terror” against him.

  649. jason says:

    Trump says if China imposes retaliatory measures (duhhh, what did he think would happen) HE will impose more tariffs.

    Then the Chinese will take retaliatory measures against THOSE tariffs.

    And then Trump will find out what everyone with half a brain not brainwashed by the AFL-CIO agenda, that nobody wins trade wars.

    The tax cuts, which would have had great benefits to the economic growth, will be completely erased by asinine and self defeating economic isolationism and protectionism.

    So dumb.

  650. DW says:

    656 – nothing yet on CA_49

  651. jason says:

    Dow falls more than 400 points, or 1.6%,”

    Hopefully some of the AFL-CIO conservatives lost some money, you reap what you sow.

  652. lisab says:

    “give us a protective tariff and we will have the greatest nation on earth.”

    “the abandonment of the protective policy by the american government… must produce want and ruin among our people.”

  653. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Rep. Lou Correa, D-Santa Ana, described the asylum seeker’s conditions in their countries: “When these kids are growing up in Central America, they’re given a choice. At a certain age, you either join a gang, MS-13 that the President talks about, or you die. They pick a third, which is go north in search of possibly a survival alternative.””

    There actually is a fourth alternative, join MS-13 and come to the U.S. and function as a gang member.

  654. lisab says:

    Under free trade the trader is the master and the producer the slave. Protection is but the law of nature, the law of self-preservation, of self-development, of securing the highest and best destiny of the race of man[73]. [It is said] that protection is immoral…. Why, if protection builds up and elevates 63,000,000 [the U.S. population] of people, the influence of those 63,000,000 of people elevates the rest of the world. We cannot take a step in the pathway of progress without benefiting mankind everywhere. Well, they say, ‘Buy where you can buy the cheapest’…. Of course, that applies to labor as to everything else. Let me give you a maxim that is a thousand times better than that, and it is the protection maxim: ‘Buy where you can pay the easiest.’ And that spot of earth is where labor wins its highest rewards.[74]

    [Free trade] destroys the dignity and independence of American labor… It will take away from the people of this country who work for a living—and the majority of them live by the sweat of their faces—it will take from them heart and home and hope. It will be self-destruction.[75]

  655. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    664. “The Republican party always stood for free trade, free markets, free enterprise, and the fact that at times R Presidents caved to pressure to impose what at the time was limited and temporary tariffs doesn’t change that, nor did it make tariffs a brilliant idea.”

    Would be great to have free trade. But its a two way street. Right now we do not have free trade with China. It takes two to tango.

  656. Chicon says:

    Pete the Cheat escorted from the FBI building.

  657. Chicon says:

    Don’t we mean fair trade? Free trade ain’t in the building.

  658. NYCmike says:

    “Hopefully some of the AFL-CIO conservatives lost some money, you reap what you sow.”

    -I lost money on my holdings today……and was able to buy more at lower prices, so that my holdings will increase over the LONG-TERM.

  659. NYCmike says:

    “FREE TRADE” would be wonderful……maybe jason will let us know when China/Europe allows it.

    I am NOT for tariffs…..but the more I hear about the restrictions that American businesses deal with, and the outright theft of American ingenuity which goes on, then any thinking person has to re-evaluate their beliefs.

    I am sure even Milton Friedman would re-evaluate every so often, to see if the free flow of goods and services was actually happening!

  660. NYCmike says:

    And, NO, I repeat, I do NOT want a trade war, or tariffs……but if the price of some electoral victories is a temporary verbal “discussion” about the merits of free trade and/or tariffs, I am willing to see where it takes us.

    Ohio, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania voted for Trump, BUT did NOT vote for Romney.

    That says something!

  661. Tina says:

    Good work house committee members, republican,l

    Good work rooster.

  662. NYCmike says:

    http://theothermccain.com/2018/06/17/tip-pentagon-covering-up-fact-that-female-officers-nearly-sank-navy-ship/

    -Will Robbie have any tantrums over this?

    I hope the Trump administration/Mattis have straightened this situation out!

    If they haven’t, I would agree with Robbie that they are NOT doing their job!

  663. lisab says:

    The Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agency is demanding a fact-checker for The New Yorker magazine apologize after she mistakenly accused a Marine veteran and current ICE agent of having a Nazi tattoo.

    Talia Lavin, a staff member of The New Yorker and contributor to The Village Voice, came under fire over the weekend after spreading misinformation and accusing Justin Gaertner – a combat-wounded Marine veteran and the agency’s forensic analyst – of being a closeted Nazi sympathizer for a tattoo she perceived as being the “Iron Cross.”

    But the tattoo on Gaertner’s left elbow has nothing to do with Nazi Germany at all — it is “the ‘Titan 2,’ the symbol for his platoon while he fought in Afghanistan,” ICE said on Monday. “The writing on his right arm is the Spartan Creed, which is about protecting family and children.”

  664. mnw says:

    jason 668

    1) The DOW came back quite a bit– down 287, not “over 400.” I was actually up (miniscule) today. I attribute my success today to pure dumb luck, btw– I’m not short anything. Yes, dumb luck is MY strategy. Anyway, if an investor can’t shrug off a 1% loss (-287 = -1.15%), then that investor should get out of the market & buy a CD immediately.*

    2) I guess I’m an “AFLCIO conservative,” because if what we have now with China is “free trade”? Then F “free trade” of that sort! Anyway, I appreciate your good wishes for me, as expressed in your post 668.

    3) What should we do about the “trade war”?** “Win it!”, as RR once said in another context.

    NYC

    Buying opportunity? I dunno. Perhaps. Market is still expensive by historical measurements.

    *if you’re buying just ONE Krugerrand, you shouldn’t be buying ANY Krugerrands.

    **we aint even CLOSE to being in a “trade war.” We’re in a “trade pillow fight.” If Donald Trump decides to start a REAL trade war, I suspect you’ll know it.

  665. lisab says:

    Nearly 1,000 people were injured or killed in terrorist attacks involving refugees over a four-year span, with Germany facing the highest number of terror plots, according to a new Heritage Foundation report published Monday

  666. jason says:

    I am sure all the AFL-CIO conservatives will enjoy these consequences from the “brilliant” tariff idea.

    “President Donald Trump is trying to structure new tariffs on Chinese imports in a way that disguises their impact on American consumers. But the tariffs will hit Americans’ wallets anyway, in ways that are both indirect and direct.

    To recap the status of Trump’s trade wars: Since January, Trump has imposed tariffs ranging from 10% to 50% on $107 billion worth of goods imported to the United States, including washing machines, solar panels, steel, aluminum, and hundreds of Chinese products. Trading partners hit with new American tariffs have retaliated with their own tariffs on U.S. exports. Trump, meanwhile, has threatened additional tariffs on another $200 billion worth of Chinese imports, and $208 billion worth of imported autos from everywhere. It’s getting serious. Financial markets are dyspeptic.

    Trump says his tariffs are meant to protect American workers and key U.S. technologies. But most economists say Trump’s protectionism will do more harm than good — and perhaps considerable harm. Here are five ways the Trump tariffs will ultimately impact consumers:

    They’ll raise prices. Other than solar panels and washing machines, most products hit with the Trump tariffs are components of other products, such as aircraft parts, metal for cars, semiconductors for electronic devices, and injection-molding machines used to make rubber and plastic products. Most consumers will never buy raw steel or a pallet of semiconductors — but just about all of us buy products that contain components subject to new tariffs. As production costs go up, producers will pass higher costs down the chain, with consumers ultimately paying more for finished products.

    If Trump goes further and imposes tariffs on another $200 billion worth of Chinese imports, it probably would affect consumer products such as toys, apparel, TVs and mobile phones. Those tariffs would be limited to 10%, so as not to shock consumers too dramatically. Still, a $300 TV could shoot up to $330, essentially overnight.

    They’ll stoke inflation and push interest rates up. Trump’s tariffs are arriving as the Federal Reserve is in a tightening cycle, raising interest to assure inflation stays in check. Inflation is low right now, but a tight labor market is pushing wages up, which usually pushes prices up. Additional upward pressure on prices from tariffs could lead the Federal Reserve to raise rates more aggressively, pushing up borrowing costs for consumers and raising the odds of a recession caused by tighter lending standards.

    They’ll rattle financial markets. Investors are already worried that modest moves on trade could mushroom into a crisis that damages global growth — one reason financial markets have become more volatile and stocks are barely up this year. Stock values affect the wealthy more than the middle class, but many ordinary Americans own stocks in retirement plans, and the direction of 401(k) plans impacts consumer confidence.

    They’ll hurt American exporters and their employees. It’s normal for trade partners hit with tariffs to retaliate in a similar way, so it’s no surprise China and other countries have identified American exports they’ll impose tariffs on, in response to Trump’s moves. That raises the price of U.S. products and typically reduces sales, which can force American firms to lay off workers or curtail hiring. That could hurt American workers in aerospace, agriculture, chemicals, energy, shipping and other fields. Some U.S. firms would also have an incentive to move American facilities offshore and hire foreign workers, so goods produced at those locations wouldn’t be subject to tariffs.

    They’ll hurt U.S. companies operating overseas. China, in particular, can retaliate against American interests in ways that don’t involve tariffs. Most big U.S. companies have operations in China, and the government there can arbitrarily shut down foreign businesses for just about any reason. That would affect Americans working in China for U.S. firms, and would also crimp an important source of profits for many U.S. companies. If everything else in the economy is going right, companies redeploy resources and earn a nifty return elsewhere. But when trade wars generate recession fears, employers might just sit on their cash, tighten up payrolls and wait to see how bad the damage is likely to be.”

  667. Wes says:

    I don’t disagree with Jason about tariffs. I was just pointing out the actual history of the GOP and tariffs.

  668. lisab says:

    “Anyone who wants to get across the border can, if they have sufficient money to pay to cross.”
    ——————————————–

    mmmmmmmkaaayyyyy … and i want it to cost them as MUCH as possible …

    the more it costs to cross the border, the fewer will come

    if walls did not work, rich people would not put walls around their homes

  669. mnw says:

    jason

    Someone will have to explain to me how China holds all the cards in this “trade war,” when the balance of payments is almost 2-1 in their favor.

    Trump has alluded to that fact. Guess who blinks first?

  670. Tina says:

    Pete the cheats attorney indicates that Americans deserve better.

    Btw, two more fib agents were removed from Fuhrer Mulehead

  671. lisab says:

    the bad part about the border wall with mexico is not that it would not work,

    a 30 foot wall would keep most people out … few if any of the people on hhr could climb a 30 foot wall

    the real problem is that it is a pretty big fu to mexico

  672. mnw says:

    lisab 686

    Under PDT, the going rate for a coyote is appx $8000, per ICE, to smuggle one illegal alien. It was appx $5000 when Zero left office.

  673. mnw says:

    lisab 689

    That’s a feature, not a bug!

  674. jason says:

    1) The DOW came back quite a bit– down 287, not “over 400.” I was actually up (miniscule) today. I attribute my success today to pure dumb luck, btw– I’m not short anything. Yes, dumb luck is MY strategy. Anyway, if an investor can’t shrug off a 1% loss (-287 = -1.15%), then that investor should get out of the market & buy a CD immediately.”

    Mnw, the daily ups and downs of the market are not the focus of my objections to Trump’s war on free trade and free markets.

    It was a tongue in cheek comment, I don’t really want anyone to lose money.

    I think the medium and long term effects of a trade war with China and other trading partners will be very negative.

  675. jason says:

    the bad part about the border wall with mexico is not that it would not work,

    a 30 foot wall would keep most people out”

    Actually, unless it was closely monitored with electronic surveillance, it would not work well at all.

    An unguarded wall can be easily climbed over, under or through.

    A waste of money for 90% of the border.

  676. jason says:

    Anyone who thinks a 30 ft wall is going to be built along the entire border is smoking some really good sh-t.

    Trump would be smart to take what he can get, a wall in urban areas and a virtual wall for most of the border in exchange for comprehensive immigration reform.

    An all or nothing strategy, a physical wall or nothing, will yield nothing.

  677. jason says:

    And, NO, I repeat, I do NOT want a trade war, or tariffs”

    LOL

    NYC is “against tariffs”, unless Trump imposes them, then he is for them.

    We have seen this movie several times before.

    Rubio was a traitorous RINO for shaking Schumer’s hand, Trump got a pass for funding Schumer for decades.

    The R congress was composed of traitorous RINOS for passing big spending bills, Trump got a pass for signing them.

    I can’t wait until Trump proposes a $1 trillion dollar gift to the unions under the guise of “infrastructure”, I am sure NYC will be here saying “but of course we have to fix our bridges”

  678. Robbie says:

    No wonder conservatives love Trump so much. He’s such a great guy.

    Jake Sherman
    @JakeSherman

    WOW!

    Trump: “Is Mark Sanford here? I just want to congratulate him on running a great race.”

    Room goes silent. Trump then called him a nasty guy and the room booed, a bit.

  679. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    June 19, 2018 at 4:51 pm
    Before Trump came along, the Republican Party believed in free trade and opposed tariffs.
    This is factually incorrect. Republicans supported tariffs as far back as the 1890s at least.

    – Give me a break, Wes. You know I was talking about the recent past. Like the last decade or so.

  680. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “few if any of the people on hhr could climb a 30 foot wall.”

    Don’t make any assumptions. How many of the people on hhr are “wetbacks” by the way.

    A young person, male or female, can do a 30 foot wall easily, particularly with an improvised ladder. A lot of older people as well.

  681. Mr.Vito says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/06/19/manafort-in-solitary-confinement-to-avoid-attack-by-someone-intent-on-street-cred-trump-ex-lawyer-says.html

    “Former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort is being held in “solitary confinement” after his bail was revoked, in an “outrageous violation” of his civil liberties, former Trump lawyer John Dowd told Fox News on Tuesday.”

  682. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 19, 2018 at 5:05 pm
    Amoral scumbag is a “real Republican” who promised to come here to celebrate Obama’s win, was a shill for Hillary, and now wants the GOP to lose 40 seats as “revenge against Trump”.

    – This is such a lie. Jason fraud knows I did not shill for Hillary.

  683. Mr.Vito says:

    “This is such a lie.”

    No one cares. You’ve lied about everyone here, so go cry on HuffPo or mediaite, or wherever your new best buds are.

  684. Mr.Vito says:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32041/canadian-christian-university-refused-law-school-hank-berrien

    Canadian Christian University Refused Law School Accreditation Because It Champions Traditional Marriage

  685. Waingro says:

    “Sheeple, Jr. says:
    June 19, 2018 at 9:44 am

    #492
    In the Gravis Poll, look at the data on question 21. It shows a 7 pt. spread between those who voted for The Donald over The Clinton.
    The spread in 2016 was Trump by 20 pts.–56/36.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/Gravis_Montana_June_2018.pdf

    It also has Jill Stein at 7(!!)% –> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydx4UalHzmk

    Stick that poll in the garbage dumpster!

  686. Chicon says:

    Robbie made certain claims yesterday about his November House election predictions. Seemed to be moving the goalposts by my recollection.

  687. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    686. “if walls did not work, rich people would not put walls around their homes.”

    Liz, have an experiment for you. Put a wall around your house; then make public that you have $20,000 laying around the floor in your house, and do not have any guns. Lets see how long your wall works.

  688. Mr.Vito says:

    Border Patrol does have guns, right?

  689. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 19, 2018 at 5:03 pm
    to be a despicable personal who has no business being president.”
    Amoral scumbag, who has the moral character of a floating turd, calling anybody else despicable is hilarious.

    – The lying piece of monkey crap Jason fraud claims I have moral character of a floating turd because I object to glorious dear leader Trump having sex with a porn star just three months after his wife gave birth to their son.

  690. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    June 19, 2018 at 5:59 pm
    jason
    Someone will have to explain to me how China holds all the cards in this “trade war,” when the balance of payments is almost 2-1 in their favor.

    – This really misunderstands the trade deficit with China. We don’t make any products here. If their products get too expensive, we’ve got nowhere to buy them. Trump seems to think he can recreate the 1950’s industrial might in America. It’s not going to happen.

  691. Chicon says:

    Thanks for the update, Barack.

  692. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    690. “Under PDT, the going rate for a coyote is appx $8000, per ICE, to smuggle one illegal alien. It was appx $5000 when Zero left office.”

    Mexicans have odd habits. For some reason, unlike Anglo twinkie snowflakes, Mexicans don’t mind working; often working 60-70 hours a week. They live frugally too, and often ship money back to family in Mexico. They can cover the added cost of “travel” quite well.

    There is a large construction site a few blocks away from where I am at. The vast majority of workers are Latin American; my deli I just went to is primarily Latin American — all of us are on a first name basis. I interact with Mexicans on a daily basis — it is almost always pleasant. Contrast that with the you experience in Europe with those from the Mid-East. Some are nice, but there is an underlying tension.

  693. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    June 19, 2018 at 6:41 pm
    “This is such a lie.”
    No one cares. You’ve lied about everyone here, so go cry on HuffPo or mediaite, or wherever your new best buds are.

    – Looks like Mr. Vito woke up on the wrong side of the bed.

    Glad to see you’re another one who can’t stand news that comes from sources that aren’t MAGA approved.

  694. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “– This really misunderstands the trade deficit with China. We don’t make any products here. If their products get too expensive, we’ve got nowhere to buy them. Trump seems to think he can recreate the 1950’s industrial might in America. It’s not going to happen.”

    This is where your in the process of being proven wrong, and is why Bush Republican nostalgia is a joke.

  695. Mr.Vito says:

    “Glad to see you’re another one who can’t stand news that comes from sources that aren’t MAGA approved.”

    No one cares. You’ve lied about everyone here, so go cry on HuffPo or mediaite, or wherever your new best buds are.

  696. Chicon says:

    TDS, Severe, with psychotic features..

  697. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    705. “Border Patrol does have guns, right?”

    Yes, and they are spread out thin.

  698. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    June 19, 2018 at 7:18 pm
    “Glad to see you’re another one who can’t stand news that comes from sources that aren’t MAGA approved.”
    No one cares. You’ve lied about everyone here, so go cry on HuffPo or mediaite, or wherever your new best buds are.

    – Ahh, I’m hurt that someone who fell for Trump’s conman routine is mad at me. Crushed really.

    If I lied (I haven’t like Jason fraud did about me and Hillary), it’s only because I was following the lead of your glorious dear leader Trump who lies and lies and lies and lies and then lies some more.

  699. Chicon says:

    716 – whataboutism at its finest, eh?

  700. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 7:21 pm
    TDS, Severe, with psychotic features..

    – Conspiracy theorist who thinks the DNC murdered Seth Rich is talking about mental issues. Only at HHR.

  701. Mr.Vito says:

    “Ahh, I’m hurt that someone who fell for Trump’s conman routine is mad at me. Crushed really.”

    No one cares. You’ve lied about everyone here, so go cry on HuffPo or mediaite, or wherever your new best buds are.

  702. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 7:24 pm
    716 – whataboutism at its finest, eh?

    – Chiclown confuses sarcasm with “whataboutism”.

  703. Mr.Vito says:

    Eventually it may sink in… the concrete block between his ears makes it tougher.

  704. Chicon says:

    I don’t?

  705. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    June 19, 2018 at 7:26 pm
    “Ahh, I’m hurt that someone who fell for Trump’s conman routine is mad at me. Crushed really.”
    No one cares. You’ve lied about everyone here, so go cry on HuffPo or mediaite, or wherever your new best buds are.

    – I can tell the Trumpaloos are feeling the heat over this issue because they’re as agitated as they’ve been since they had to defend Trump praising the white supremacists at Charlottesville.

  706. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    June 19, 2018 at 7:27 pm
    Eventually it may sink in… the concrete block between his ears makes it tougher.

    – I think you’re right. Eventually, you’re going to realize you fell for Trump’s conman routine.

  707. Mr.Vito says:

    ” I can tell the Trumpaloos are feeling the heat over this issue because they’re as agitated as they’ve been since they had to defend Trump praising the white supremacists at Charlottesville.”

    No one cares. You’ve lied (and clearly will continue to lie) about everyone here, so go cry on HuffPo or mediaite, or wherever your new best buds are.

  708. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    June 19, 2018 at 7:34 pm

    No one cares. You’ve lied (and clearly will continue to lie) about everyone here, so go cry on HuffPo or mediaite, or wherever your new best buds are.

    – I can tell the Trumpaloos are feeling the heat over this issue because they’re as agitated as they’ve been since they had to defend Trump praising the white supremacists at Charlottesville.

  709. lisab says:

    “Actually, unless it was closely monitored with electronic surveillance, it would not work well at all.”

    the wall would have to be monitored, which is what the border patrol does

    but you cannot get under or through a wall quickly

    and most people could not get over it

    sooooooo, keeping out 95% of people, as NPR reported, is probably close to accurate.

    go try to climb a 3 story building …

    a wall is simply a formidable obstacle by itself as long as there is more than a token force monitoring it

    the ONE advantage of an electronic fence is that it can be turned off 10 seconds after a dem president gets elected and even with a republican president will be obsolete and malfuntioning in less than 5 years, so a new congress would be able to stop it

  710. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Facebook and Google exploit the H-1B visa program to bring in temporary foreign workers, and have been under intense criticism. But now their on the border soapbox.

    Both companies have an interest in promoting the “race to the bottom: and winner take all economy, mentioned in the Vanity Far article.

    “Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg said he was donating money to groups that help immigrant families get legal advice and translation services at the border. He asked others to do the same. Around 2,300 minors have been separated from their parents at the border between May 5 and June 9, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

    “We need to stop this policy right now,” Zuckerberg wrote in a Facebook post.

    Google CEO Sundar Pichai tweeted that the stories and images about family separation were “gut-wrenching.”

  711. Mr.Vito says:

    “– I can tell the Trumpaloos are feeling the heat over this issue because they’re as agitated as they’ve been since they had to defend Trump praising the white supremacists at Charlottesville.”

    No one cares. You’ve lied (and clearly will continue to lie) about everyone here, so go cry on HuffPo or mediaite, or wherever your new best buds are.

  712. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    June 19, 2018 at 7:39 pm

    No one cares. You’ve lied (and clearly will continue to lie) about everyone here, so go cry on HuffPo or mediaite, or wherever your new best buds are.

    – I can tell the Trumpaloos are feeling the heat over this issue because they’re as agitated as they’ve been since they had to defend Trump praising the white supremacists at Charlottesville.

  713. Mr.Vito says:

    “–- I can tell the Trumpaloos are feeling the heat over this issue because they’re as agitated as they’ve been since they had to defend Trump praising the white supremacists at Charlottesville.”

    No one cares. You’ve lied (and clearly will continue to lie) about everyone here, so go cry on HuffPo or mediaite, or wherever your new best buds are.

  714. Tina says:

    I like to lie, just like Hilary.

    Jebot

  715. lisab says:

    mnw,

    saying a big fu to mexico,

    is actually a very bad idea

    but there is no question it would work … i have been to the great wall … it is a formidable obstacle

    built by an over achiever

  716. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “sooooooo, keeping out 95% of people, as NPR reported, is probably close to accurate.”

    Liz, I live with 10 miles of the border. If you are driving along roadways in the southern part of San Diego County you often have to go through Border Patrol roadblocks. The reason is they are searching for illegal immigrants who crossed the border and are now traveling to their destination. If the wall was 95% effective, why the roadblocks?

    The 1-5 and 1-5 freeways between San Diego and Los Angeles have permanet border patrol checkpoints, and they are checking for illegals attempting to travel north.

  717. lisab says:

    If the wall was 95% effective, why the roadblocks?
    ——————————

    because 100,000 were crossing before, 95% means that 5000 still get through

    and the 5000 will be the most motivated and dangerous

  718. jason says:

    Amoral scumbag is a “real Republican” who promised to come here to celebrate Obama’s win, was a shill for Hillary, and now wants the GOP to lose 40 seats as “revenge against Trump”.

    – This is such a lie. Jason fraud knows I did not shill for Hillary.”

    LOL

    Reminds of the college girl who refused to out with the hillbilly. Why, he asked.

    “Well I hear you hillbillies have sex with cows, goats, chickens, pigs, sheep…”

    “PIGS”!, he exclaims.

  719. lisab says:

    and that report was from 2006

    more than 100000 would probably try to cross today

    the value of welfare benefits in california is very high

  720. jason says:

    A wall can quickly be tunneled under, climbed over, or breached.

    Those are the facts.

    Repeating that a wall will “keep 95%” out is garbage, only if closely guarded and monitored.

    And if it has to be closely guarded and monitored, its much cheaper and effective if its virtual, not physical.

    The argument that the Dems will “turn it off” is also garbage, if you don’t monitor the wall it won’t stop anybody either.

    Without the will to enforce, the wall is the same as nothing.

  721. jason says:

    Of course, the whole argument is moot, the wall is not going to be built.

    A virtual wall, which actually makes sense and COULD happen, is the best option.

    Again, if you want all or nothing, you will get nothing.

  722. lisab says:

    In Washington, D.C., and 10 particularly generous states — Hawaii, Vermont, Connecticut, Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Maryland, New Hampshire and California — these seven programs provide a mother with two young children an annual benefit worth more than $35,000 a year. The value of the package in a medium-level welfare state is $28,500.

    That may sound low, but it’s important to remember that welfare benefits are not taxed, whereas wages are. So to put the welfare benefit package in perspective, we calculated the amount of money our recipient would have to earn in pretax income to bring home an equal amount of money if she took a 40-hour-per-week job.

    After computing the federal income tax, the state income tax and payroll taxes, as well as taking into account federal and state earned income tax credits and the child tax credit, we came to the inescapable conclusion that welfare pays very well.

    In fact, in 33 states and the District of Columbia, welfare pays more than an $8-an-hour job [see chart]. In 12 states, including California, as well as the District of Columbia, the welfare package is more generous than a $15-an-hour job. In Hawaii, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont and Washington, D.C., welfare pays more than a $20-an-hour job, or more than 2.75 times the minimum wage.

  723. jason says:

    ut you cannot get under or through a wall quickly

    and most people could not get over it”

    Complete fantasy and shown to be utterly false.

    “Coyotes” will quickly find ways to burrow under, knock holes through, or have ladders/ to climb over any wall.

  724. jason says:

    And that is after Bill Clinton promised to “end welfare as we know it”.

  725. jason says:

    Amoral scumbag has been fixated on “Seth Rich” and “Roy Moore”.

    Mika’s face. Stormy Daniels.

    Now its “immigrant children”.

    It’s amazing, whatever the MSM throws out there is goes for it like a maggot on roadkill.

  726. jason says:

    The lying piece of monkey crap Jason”

    This from someone who says I support Trump on “everything”.

    I’ll take the points though, thanks.

  727. Robbie says:

    No wonder Trump likes Corey Lewandowski. Lewandowski mocks the disabled as well.

    J.D. Durkin
    @jiveDurkey

    here’s Corey Lewandowski mockingly saying “womp womp” to the story of a 10-year-old girl with Down Syndrome who was separated from her mother at the border.

  728. Robbie says:

    Jason fraud is running out of attacks when he’s reduced to claiming I was a Hillary shill when, just like him, I chose not vote for either Trump or Clinton.

  729. Chicon says:

    Lisa, add in the cost of day care while she’s at work, and pretty soon you’re talking real money.

  730. Bitterlaw says:

    To sum up, NYC does not support tariffs or a trade war. Unless he does. Like when Trump supports them,

  731. Robbie says:

    When John Kelly leaves the White House later this year, I think Corey Lewandowski locked up the White House Chief of Staff job tonight when he mocked a story about a down syndrome child being separated from the parent. Hard to top that.

  732. lisab says:

    “Coyotes” will quickly find ways to burrow under, knock holes through, or have ladders/ to climb over any wall.
    ———————-

    which are easily discovered and filled in

    as israel has proven countless times

    and, remember, the wall does not have to be 100% effective to be EXTREMELY effective

  733. Tina says:

    Today’s congressional hearing was just devastating for the jebots.

    That is why they pushed muh cell.

  734. lisab says:

    “Lisa, add in the cost of day care while she’s at work, and pretty soon you’re talking real money.”

    plus they can work or even sell drugs under the table

  735. lisab says:

    Today’s congressional hearing was just devastating for the jebots.
    —————

    it was bad

  736. Robbie says:

    lisab and Tinfoil

    Any updates on Trump’s surefire lawsuit suing the GAO for giving the transition team’s emails to Mueller?

    You both confidently predicted in mid-December that Mueller had broken the law so I’m assuming Trump’s team sued and won.

  737. Tina says:

    Pete the cheat pivots from protecting Russia to stopping trump.

    He involved everywhere.

    His actions will cause Flynn and papodope, whose crime is messing up a date, to walk.

  738. Tina says:

    Lisa, at the hearing the Drats threw comedy under the bus,

    A republican then said, well trump did well in firing him.

    This hearing further proofs no obstruction in firing comedy, despite the jebots claims of trumps mind saying otherwise and a phantom note to Mulehead.

  739. Chicon says:

    Any updates on whether Blankenship will ask for a recount of his narrow loss?

  740. Mr.Vito says:

    “Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) rejected a GOP legislative proposal on Tuesday that would fix the border separation issue that has consumed the national news cycle over the last week.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32055/breaking-democrats-reject-legislative-fix-stop-ryan-saavedra

  741. Tina says:

    Schumah must like the concentration camps,

  742. Tina says:

    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    @NolteNC
    ·
    4h
    Media manufactured border story this week cuz they knew these IG hearings would be brutal for thei Deep State pals.

    Want to bury them under fake News hysteria.

  743. Chicon says:

    Vito, odds that Robbie’s “outraged” at Schumer?

  744. Phil says:

    He’s outraged I tell you!

  745. Chicon says:

    These Dems are off their game lately. First, there’s the crumbs. Now, they gin up all this fervor – along with their assistants in the media, and dopes like Robbie – and then pass up the opportunity to get involved in a fix.

  746. Tina says:

    Here are obamas concentration camps that Schumah and the jebots do not want to fix.

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/photos-obama-immigration-detention-facilities/

  747. mnw says:

    Chi 759

    Funny!

  748. NYCmike says:

    Robbie will ignore Chuckie’s refusal of a legislative fix.

    Robbie will ignore domestic situations where children are removed from their parents due to law-breaking.

    Robbie will ignore everything, except for the latest MSM “breaking news” update!

  749. mnw says:

    Tina

    RE: Gowdy questioning Horowitz:

    Ve build zem gut at DOJ, ja?

  750. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 9:15 pm
    Any updates on whether Blankenship will ask for a recount of his narrow loss?

    – Any updates on you admitting you fell for the laughable conspiracy theory that the DNC had Seth Rich murdered?

  751. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 19, 2018 at 10:01 pm
    Robbie will ignore Chuckie’s refusal of a legislative fix.

    – No, I won’t. Schumer is every bit the hack that Trump is on this issue and many others for that matter. As has been the case so many times before, Democrats know how to steal defeat from the jaws of victory.

  752. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 9:24 pm
    Vito, odds that Robbie’s “outraged” at Schumer?

    – See 771, conspiracy theorist.

  753. Bitterlaw says:

    You can find it sad that children are separated from their parents. You can want the border secured. Both can be true.

  754. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 9:31 pm
    These Dems are off their game lately. First, there’s the crumbs. Now, they gin up all this fervor – along with their assistants in the media, and dopes like Robbie – and then pass up the opportunity to get involved in a fix.

    – Chiclown, who believed the DNC had Seth Rich murdered, actually thinks that because FoxNews is in favor of Trump’s asinine policy, the country supports the policy. Wrong.

    By wide, wide margins, the polls shows Americans oppose Trumps policy 67% to 27% in one poll and 66% to 27% in another poll. It’s chiclown, the FoxNews viewers, and Trump’s populist base who are off their game on this issue.

  755. Chicon says:

    Responding to 774 by Flyboy would be engaging in a substantive discussion. No.

  756. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    June 19, 2018 at 10:20 pm
    You can find it sad that children are separated from their parents. You can want the border secured. Both can be true.

    – Exactly. I don’t favor allowing entry to anyone who crosses the border illegally despite what Phil or some of the others might think. Quite the opposite. However, I think is over-the-top and morally wrong to separate children from their parents if they have entered the country illegally and it’s even worse to house them in cages. America is better than that.

  757. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 19, 2018 at 10:23 pm
    Responding to 774 by Flyboy would be engaging in a substantive discussion. No.

    – Here’s the problem with chiclown. First, he’s a conspiracy theorist. Second, when he doesn’t like the answer someone gives him, he just says the person is not trying to have a discussion.

    But again, chiclown, last week you said you weren’t going to engage with me, yet day after day you do. What gives?

  758. dblaikie says:

    I am enraged by these scum who dare to liken what is going on at our border to a Nazi Concentration Camp. Words mean things and if you are going to push this analogy then I guess our Border Patrol agents are the equivalent of the SS. How sick!!

    My Dad was one of the first Americans to see the horror of the death camps when the 3rd Armored Division liberated Nordhausen. The memories were terrible for him. He remembered that you began to smell the stench of human decay and death miles from the Camp itself. Until he died he had nightmares about what he saw. He said that the cruelty of the SS was so deep that if they could have the GI’s would shot the SS on the spot but they were ordered not to do so because they needed to live in order to be debriefed.

    These Scum on TV and in the print media do a terrible dishonor to the victims of the Nazi death camps. They slander the hard working men and women of ICE and the Border Patrol. And they make a mockery of my Father and all the other GI who fought for a Nation they loved and when they liberated the prisoners of the Concentration Camps they believed that the horror they endured was worth it!

    He dare these human debris of the press belittle that horror and sacrifice for political points. It is sick. It is ugly. It is nothing but propaganda. But don’t worry slime ball media I won’t accuse you of being modern day Joseph Goebbels. But I do believe you are following his advice: “A lie told once remains a lie. But a lie told a thousand times becomes the truth.” Screw you Media!!!!

  759. mnw says:

    Culling The Wise Men (cliff Notes version)– so that you don’t have to wade through it:

    1) A new poll shows McSally pulling away in the AZ SEN GOP primary.

    2) Monmouth is coming out with a poll tomorrow that will supposedly show Manchin way ahead in WV SEN race, & the DEM winning (or almost winning) in WV-03 also.

    HHR treast poster CER far worse than you folks treat our despicable illiterate trolls, & CER is the only reasoned, conventional Republican over there, imo. I think RDEL stopped posting there, btw.

  760. mnw says:

    sb “HHR treats poster”

    dblaikie 778

    Well said.

  761. Chicon says:

    777 – answered twice already, moron. Read.

  762. Chicon says:

    778 – wonderful post.

  763. mnw says:

    Chi

    I don’t know if u remember Rdel. He’s from Memphis & has a son who’s a sportswriter who covers (or used to cover) the BLUZ.

    I would probably go to an HHR meet up, if somebody else organized it– would be sparsely attended if we had it in STL!

  764. Tina says:

    Yup,mothe rooster did well, as did the other Rs.

    Well done.

    Now, it is time for Fuhrer Mulehead to start losing in court.

  765. Tina says:

    House them in cages.

    Please check with the obumbler and mute 43

  766. jason says:

    However, I think is over-the-top and morally wrong”

    Someone with the moral character of a floating turd has the chutzpah of terming something “morally wrong”.

    You don’t find anything morally wrong, you are amoral. If Obama was President and following this policy, you would be all for it. You are really a disgusting excuse for a human being.

    You just think the propaganda will somehow help overturn the results of the election, that is your “moral” compass.

    You don’t fool anybody here. The M.O. of the last 10 years is front and center.

  767. Chicon says:

    Mnw, I do remember RDel. He got a ration of sh!t for unskewing polls. Seemed a decent guy who could converse like a regular human, which is sometimes missing here…

  768. Wobbles says:

    House them in cages.

    Please check with the obumbler and mute 43″

    I approved of that policy then.

    It’s wrong now.

    How that is clear.

  769. Phil says:

    Someone stole Robbie’s handle and called Schumer a hack. I may not see eye to eye with Robbie, but he doesn’t deserve to be impersonated by someone stealing his handle.

  770. Tina says:

    We do not know why comedy wrote a letter clearing her thighness six weeks before completing the case and interviewing all witnesses.

    Horowitz indicated that comedy was biased.

    But the truth is that they had to rush to clear her thighness because she was flying out with the obumbler, the spy leader.

  771. Tina says:

    8. Yesterday, Amanda Renteria was exposed as a bridge between DOJ (Lynch) and the Clinton campaign.

    Renteria blamed Russians for hacking her computer.

    It is getting closer and closer to spy chief, obumbler.

    Look for Drats to call for a stop to all of this. In fact, the penguin yesterday said that mueller must end for the good of the country,

    Lying drat words.

  772. Tina says:

    Good latte and the rooster to subpoena Pete the cheat.

    Also, Nunes and rooster may hold swampstein in contempt on Friday,

    They better proceed with this and take out swamp.

  773. mnw says:

    Chi 787

    That’s exactly why Rdel quit posting here– his final message was that he “didn’t like all the name calling.”

    Now, he seems to have quit at RRH too– they don’t engage in name calling there (yet), but they tolerate dissent about as much as Walter Ulbricht did.

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  775. Tina says:

    Guy Benson
    Guy Benson
    @guypbenson
    Top Senate Dem preemptively comes out against all GOP proposals on family separation issue. “Schumer said they want to keep the focus on Trump.”

    Rejecting compromise solutions looks cynical amid humanitarian crisis. Is this about the kids, or Trump?

  776. Tina says:

    Sorry for 795. It was changed.

    Schumacher loves the concentration camps

  777. NYCmike says:

    Just when I was starting to understand Tina-ese, she ratchets it up a notch!

  778. lisab says:

    Telemundo busted for staging fake caged kids scene

  779. lisab says:

    i haven’t seen so many democrats quote the bible evah

    i did not know any even owned a bible

  780. mnw says:

    DCCC

    Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

    My least favorite Roman numeral!

  781. Tina says:

    Yeah,mothe Drats are open minded.

    Last week, they tout stormy.

    This week they tout the bible.

  782. janz says:

    I think dems have hit political pay dirt in implementing the current well orchestrated hysterical crusade involving kids and the border. They seem to have become unhinged, throwing out any semblance of honesty or truth, in thinking they have finally nailed down something that will resonant with their base and a large swathe of sympathetic others. Basically, the media blitz has been overwhelming, with more to come, including planned protests by move-on, ACLU and progressive groups as a follow-up. I really can’t tell if I’m mad or sad anymore by the behavior of such political turds!

  783. janz says:

    I think dems have hit political pay dirt in implementing the current well orchestrated hysterical crusade involving kids and the border. They seem to have become unhinged, throwing out any semblance of honesty or truth, in thinking they have finally nailed down something that will resonant with their base and a large swathe of sympathetic others. Basically, the media blitz has been overwhelming, with more to come, including planned protests by move-on, ACLU and progressive groups as a follow-up. I really can’t tell if I’m mad or sad anymore by the behavior of such political turds!

  784. NYCmike says:

    “Telemundo busted for staging fake caged kids scene”

    You are kidding, right?

  785. NYCmike says:

    janz,

    It’s too much, in my humble opinion.

    Time will allow the public to get some real information, and proper context.

    As long as Republicans remain united behind the enforcement of the law, and the idea that the legislature is the proper recourse to change bad law, the emotions-based media/Democrat cabal will end up ILL-SERVED by such despicable behavior.

  786. janz says:

    I don’t know, NYC, if anything good or productive can come out of such misplaced rancor that is gushing out of dems. They truly seem crazed by their hatred of anything derived from the Trump administration. I can’t say that I’ve ever experienced an equivalent in my life of such an unreasonable opposition.

    In my eyes their antics appear pathetic. However, people I know are churned up and support their unreal stances. When putting the border events back to back with how the dems are rationalizing the OIG report, it’s like living in a parallel universe!

  787. Tim says:

    No, this is not hysteria. It’s not misplaced. It’s not about political paydirt, either. You guys are just way on the wrong side on this. And, no one believes it’s the fault of Democrats in any way, either. Neither is it the fault of Congress. This is all on this Administration. Trump made this policy. He could fix it with a phone call. He is making a massive mistake. You don’t use terrorizing children as political bargaining chips. Are any of you willing to bet that you won’t pay a massive price for this if it isn’t fixed, and quickly?

  788. Tim says:

    #800:
    I own four different translations. And, I’ve read them extensively. I like to be informed. I know what John 15:13 says, without having to look it up on the Internet. LOL

  789. Messy says:

    I got this poll from Bloomburg:

    Andrés Manuel López Obrador MORENA
    50.8%

    Ricardo Anaya PAN
    24.8%

    José Antonio Meade PRI
    21.6%

    The election down there is in less than two weeks and MORENA is going to take a majority in Congress. US/Mexico relations are going to be in the worst shape since Wilson invaded a century and a bit ago.
    Jaime Rodríguez Independent
    3.7%

  790. Mr.Vito says:

    Yep. Obama tried not to separate them. They detained them together indefinitely… and the judges ruled he was keeping the children in “deplorable conditions” and couldn’t keep doing so.

    The administration “said they were detaining the families to send a message to others in Central America to deter them from coming to the United States illegally.”

    “I think this spells the beginning of the end for the Obama administration’s immigrant family detention policy,” Mr. Schey, the president of the human rights center, said Friday. “A policy that just targets mothers with children is not rational and it’s inhumane.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/26/us/detained-immigrant-children-judge-dolly-gee-ruling.html

  791. Mr.Vito says:

    Detain them together? Bad for the children.
    Separate them? Bad for the children.

    Of course, we know what the liberal politicians want… for them to be released together into the general populace.

  792. Mr.Vito says:

    So, we see from the NYT, that the Obama Administration kept children in deplorable conditions, and was targeting families in this way as a deterrent.

  793. Messy says:

    Lopez Obrador’s party, the National Regeneration Movement (MORENA)is rather radical, and it’s election is NOT good for the US.

    But, hey, it’s their election, not ours. But this is a reaction to Trump as much it is to the PRI, which is the party of corruption and has been for a century.

    I don’t want a hostile nation on our border, I think most of you don’t want a hostile nation on our border, but Trump does.

  794. Messy says:

    Governor Hogan is acting like a pansy-assed liberal, according to some here, what with his pulling the Maryland National Guard from the border and refusing to protect it.

    I say good for him.

  795. Tina says:

    No, it is not a reaction to trump. He has been leading and continues to lead for a long time. The current Mexican gubment has lost control, the drug cartels have taken over, I know several large tourist groups that have canceled going there.

    He is a socialist and another reason why nafta is likely to be terminated,

    I have mentioned this several times here.

    Businesses will close up shops and relocate back here,

    That is why nafta between us and them will end likely.

  796. Tina says:

    Trump did not make the policy. It is law, initiated by mute 43 and practiced heavily by the obumbler.

    See the photos of kids in cages.

    This was your October surprise, but you spilled it too early in June. It mainly came out due to the Ig report. You needed to try to bury it.

  797. Tina says:

    @SpectatorUSA
    ·
    22h
    “@Comey figured to be the star witness in any obstruction of justice case against the president. Now, under investigation and with his own reputation in question, Comey is no longer the reliable, trustworthy source he once seemed,” writes @ByronYork

    Poor Comey, the Drats have spit him out a lot. He and Hillary are exchanging tweets.

  798. Tina says:

    ZeroPointNow
    ZeroPointNow
    @ZeroPointNow
    ·
    10h
    Bombshells Everywhere During Horowitz Day 2 Testimony: Altered 302s, Unreleased OIG Draft, Missing Texts And More

  799. Bitterlaw says:

    Even though I hate Trump, I do not want the Republican Party to suffer in the midterms and I do not want a Democrat who runs as a Democrat elected President in 2020. Therefore, I have drafted a statement for the President:

    “Good morning. Because I am a great person, I have decided to immediately end my predecessors’ policy of separating illegal immigrant children from their illegal immigrant parents. From this point on, these law breaking families will be kept together until we can toss their asses back across the border. Thank you.”

    No need to thank me, NYC. I am doing this for the country.

  800. Mr.Vito says:

    “…these law breaking families will be kept together until we can toss their asses back across the border.”

    Kept where?

  801. Bitterlaw says:

    Kept where? I will leave the details to the staff. I am the big picture strategist.

  802. Mr.Vito says:

    “Kept where? I will leave the details to the staff. I am the big picture strategist.”

    Well, it is an important detail to prevent running afoul of the ruling in post 811.

  803. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #825
    Maybe Robbie should thank Sheriff Arpaio for spoiling Chem Kelli Ward’s chances in the AZ GOP primary.

  804. Tina says:

    There is no policy change.

    There is the law and a court order.

    To make the change, there will need to be a new law,

    No simple or wave the hand fix by the president unilaterally.

  805. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Tina
    Catch this from 2015 about McCain and Flake!

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3664616/posts

  806. hugh says:

    The dems and msm have as always overplayed their hand on the immigration issue. first they did it way too soon. If they want to run on this in November they played this card way too soon. People will already be bored with it. This assumes the GOP rides it out and does not do anything too stupid. Big if. On much of the immigration debate we are winning it, oddly. However, if the gop accepts legislation that will satisfy the dems we will split our party. I suggest we do what we can legally do at the edges to keep families together and dna test to make sure they are family. Better yet do something not technically legal to keep families together and see if the dems complain about it. That could be fun. Releasing the entire family so they never report back is a non-starter.

  807. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    I guess that Robbie, Messy and Tim agree with actor Peter Fonda’s statement below:

    “WE SHOULD RIP BARRON TRUMP FROM HIS MOTHER’S ARMS AND PUT HIM IN A CAGE WITH PEDOPHILES AND SEE IF MOTHER WILL WILL STAND UP AGAINST THE GIANT A**HOLE SHE IS MARRIED TO. 90 MILLION PEOPLE IN THE STREETS ON THE SAME WEEKEND IN THE COUNTRY. F**K”

  808. Redmen4ever says:

    Since the 1990s, Mexico has featured three major parties:

    1) the PRI (Institutional Revolutionary Party) formerly the one-party of a one-party socialist state. Since the 1990s, the PRI has evolved into the party of government, the technocrats and the swamp. It’s a non-reformist center party. The PRI ruled the country uninterrupted from 1929 to 2000. During this long period of time, the economy faltered, and eventually the PRI had to make some concessions with reality. The current president is a member of this party.

    2) the PAN (National Action Party) (you may notice that the words of the translation go “backwards” relative to the letters, as Partido de Accion Nationale gets reversed when translated into English) – this is the center-right party of the country. It ruled the country from 2000 to 2012. Initially, things looked promising for Mexico as the reforms started by the PRI were being expanded by the PAN. Then, the PAN succumb to corruption and inefficiency and started blaming the United States for the country’s shortcomings, just like other decrepit governments in the third world. In 2012, the people returned the PRI to poweer.

    3) the PRD (Democratic Revolution Party) – this is the (new) progressive socialist party of the country, initially formed as a break-away from the PRI. They have yet to gain the presidency, but appear likely to do so in this election under the banner of a broad coalition such as are put together in certain Latin American countries. Don’t let the banner confuse you. According to the polls, their candidate is far out in front. They want to re-nationalize the oil industry and increase spending on everything. They also want to postpone extension of NAFTA until after the Mexican election. It is possible we (Mexico and us) will mutually agree to an end to NAFTA, and restore the former U.S.-Canada FTA.

    It looks like Mexico wants to join with Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Ecuador and Bolivia, and NOT with Chile, Panama, Costa Rica, Colombia, Peru and Dominican Republic. Viva la revoluccion and all that. We don’t need no steeeekin’ badges.

    By the way, how is that wall on the border with Mexico coming along?

  809. Tina says:

    I guess attacking the presidents kids is now back in vogue.

  810. DW says:

    832 – just like homelessness became a problem again January 2017.

  811. Redmen4ever says:

    Agent One and Agent Five
    Congressman Meadows reveals their jive
    The two of them are oh so smart
    They can smell deplorables at the Wall-Mart
    It was from them De Niro learned to say
    “F” the President in a grand way
    Kathy Griffen, like the Queen of Hearts ’tis said,
    Learned that it is fun to cry “off with his head.”
    And, now, because of zero tolerance
    These two masters of counter-intelligence
    With be separated from each other
    Like an illegal alien and his mother

  812. mnw says:

    48/50 for third day in a row.

    “Over half of voters now believe top cops may have acted illegally to prevent Trump’s election.”

    But…muh impeachment! Just you wait! We’ll still get ‘er done.

  813. BayernFan says:

    829 Hugh spot on.

    Let’s hope the GOP doesn’t do its usual stupid cave.

    Most normal people blame migrant parents for placing their kids in bad situations. GOP needs to stop thinking that cable pundits on cnn and msnbc represent normal people. They don’t.

  814. mnw says:

    BF 836

    Exactly.

    GOP needs to get out the message that “end family separation!” means catch & release for anybody who crosses the border illegally– as long as you bring a child– that’s the key to successfully breaking the law.

    Any thoughts about IN SEN race?

  815. mnw says:

    RAS also has GCB as D+4, same as last week. 45/41.

  816. Tina says:

    Impeachment because he obstructed by firing comedy,

    Despite the Ig report and letters from swamp and sessions,me thought this, And there is a secret letter given to Mulehead.

  817. NYCmike says:

    IF is the key word.

    The polls will reverse, or at the least improve, the more time goes by and the situation is placed in context.

    Youll notice, all the Robbies/Democrats want immediate action by the President, instead of the facts to come out to provide context.

  818. JC says:

    BayernFan says:
    June 20, 2018 at 9:53 am
    829 Hugh spot on.

    Let’s hope the GOP doesn’t do its usual stupid cave.

    Most normal people blame migrant parents for placing their kids in bad situations. GOP needs to stop thinking that cable pundits on cnn and msnbc represent normal people. They don’t.
    ————————

    This times infinity. The GOP eggheads simply cannot comprehend the fact that the ‘worries’ and ‘outrages’ of the political and media class DO NOT represent most Americans.

    These idiots have been isolated in the Washington culture for so long that they only view the world through the leftist media filter.

  819. NYCmike says:

    Quick note: not one person at work, employee, truck drivers, helpers, etc have mentioned this issue.

    They are too busy, as there is too much work to be done!

  820. Tina says:

    “The reality is if American parents put their kids through what these immigrant parents have done to their kids — they would be charged with child abuse.”

  821. JC says:

    @NYCmike

    A half hazard guess is that Trump will power through this media generated outrage just like he has all the other hundreds of times.

    The amount of demagoguery here is insane. Scott Adams actually predicted this sort of mass cognitive dissonance would happen after the NK situation was resolved, as it would be the last straw that threatens to completely shatter their view (or ‘movie’) of the world and Trump. I have a feeling that Trump Derangement Syndrome will get even worse, to the point where they will look literally insane, as they struggle to keep their version of reality intact.

    Haring Trump has become their identity.

  822. Cash Cow TM says:

    22 count federal indictment unsealed today against
    WV supreme court justice….on WV day…when WV became a state on Jine 20, 1863.

  823. Robbie says:

    This is good news. Of course, Trump will sign the order. Almost certainly, he’s been shown polling that shows how unpopular his policy was and decided he had to back down.

    I just feel badly for all of the MAGA people who spent the last few days supporting the policy and now have to swing 180 degrees in the other direction and say Trump was right to end the policy.

    WOMP WOMP.

    The Associated Press
    @AP

    AP Sources: Homeland Security secretary drafting order to end family separation at border; unclear if Trump will sign it.

  824. mnw says:

    I called my congresscritter to tell him how much I hate amnesty in general & Ryan’s bill in particular.

    It’s a good thing the House DEMs have “zero tolerance” for any GOP immigration bill, because otherwise, Ryan’s amnesty sellout would pass overwhelmingly.

    I’m not pleased that PDT said he could support Ryan’s amnesty bill, btw.

  825. Robbie says:

    Not only has Corey Lewandowski locked up the chief of staff job once Kelly is gone by mocking a 10 year old Mexican girl with Down Syndrome, he may be on his way to earning the 2020 VP spot by refusing to apologize for his comments.

    Mediaite
    @Mediaite

    Corey Lewandowski Refuses to Apologize on Fox News For Mocking Disabled Migrant Child http://mediaite.com/a/ephvy

  826. Robbie says:

    Always important to remember that any bill which doesn’t require mass deportations is amnesty.

  827. Phil says:

    I would be interested to know the details of any new order.

    Depends on the order. What Democrats want of course is for any person who crosses illegally and claims “asylum” who brings kids to automatically be released into the population (catch and release) who then never show up for the hearing. They’re in. You can then expect a flood of “asylum” seekers with kids (maybe theirs, maybe not. Knowing they can’t be held, you have huge migration of border crashers bringing “the children”.

    Democrats couldn’t care less about “the children” as evidenced by the fact that there wasn’t a peep out of them during the Obama administration when the same laws were in force.

  828. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Mark meadows states that the 302s were altered in the muh Russian and Clinton investigations,

    Who altered them?

    That person is. Looking at a lot of time in jail.

    Flynn will walk as will papodope.

  829. mnw says:

    Phil

    Would detain children & parents together. Fine by me! It would run afoul of some court order saying children can not be detained for more than 20 days, however.

    Tina

    302s are revised all the time, routinely, before a supervisor approves them, & they then become final. So, more info is needed as to WHEN the revisions occurred.

  830. Phil says:

    Would detain them together? I have no problem with that. Problem solved

    EXCEPT

    Chuckie and the Democrats and their MSM puppets would continue to howl. They aren’t interested in a solution for “the children”. They want anyone who shows up at the border and claims “asylum” brought in and dispersed into the general population. Bring a child and you don’t even have to sneak across the border. The child is your ticket into America. Of course, you then have a hearing date. LOL Good luck with that.

  831. Tina says:

    While an eo may work, it is still problematic and may be unconstitutional. The law needs to be changed by congress.

    Moreover, the eo will run afoul of clintunes 1997 law that permitted children to stay in adult detention center for 20 days.

  832. Tina says:

    A judge would have to rule that the 1997 law or sections of it are not constitutional.

  833. mnw says:

    Phil

    The no-show rate for those hearings is appx 95%.

    If an illegal alien fails to show, an administrative law judge (a career DOJ employee, not a “real” judge) eventually enters an order of deportation, by default. OK, great! Now ICE, go find that illegal alien AGAIN!

    This is called either “due process,” or “catch & release,” depending on one’s perspective.

  834. Tina says:

    Obama held the kids in cages and wrapped them in foil.

    Did he use Reynolds wrap?

    Omg.

  835. mnw says:

    Tina 854-5 is correct.

    Maybe the combined parent-and-adult detention facility could be designated as something other than an “adult detention” facility? Just thinking out loud.

    What the 20-day law leads to, inevitably, is catch-and-release for the entire family… which was the whole motivation for committing the crime (Entry Without Inspection; 8 USC 1325) in the first place!

  836. mnw says:

    Trump sez he’ll sign an eo exactly like the one we’ve been discussing.

    I doubt the DEMs & their trolls will like it much.

  837. Tina says:

    Mnw, it seems that the eo amounts to putting a band aid on a gun shut wound.

    Too bad schumah said no deal.

  838. Tina says:

    If he does sign it fine.

    I think the Drats over played this one since there are photos under obumbler of wrapping kids in Reynolds wrap and in cages.

    The law needs to be changed. Congress must act and schumah does not want to do so.

    The eo is not law.

  839. Phil says:

    ….that Peter Fonda. Another intellectual giant and another leftist contributing to Trump’s reelection. Bless their hearts. These people simply can’t help themselves.

  840. Waingro says:


    Tina says:
    June 20, 2018 at 11:59 am

    While an eo may work, it is still problematic and may be unconstitutional. The law needs to be changed by congress.

    Moreover, the eo will run afoul of clintunes 1997 law that permitted children to stay in adult detention center for 20 days.
    Tina says:
    June 20, 2018 at 12:00 pm

    A judge would have to rule that the 1997 law or sections of it are not constitutional.”

    Tina agreed. But I don’t see how anyone is going to have standing to challenge a Trump executive fiat that gets rid of family separation. The Flores decision is going to stay by default.
    We definitely need legislation.

  841. DW says:

    Quinnipiac D+6 on generic ballot poll. Their last was +7

  842. Phil says:

    I agree. We definitely need legislation. Now try telling that to Chuck Schumer and the unanimous Democratic Senatorial Caucus who just said there would be none.

  843. lisab says:

    “I own four different translations. And, I’ve read them extensively. ”

    the anarchist bible doesn’t count

  844. Tina says:

    Wain, yes we need legislation.

    However, schumah said no.

  845. Redmen4ever says:

    Altering documents: The person didn’t intend to be caught. Therefore, not a crime. They were just extremely careless in hiding the evidence. When did being incompetent become a felony? Only Republicans are competent and, therefore, evil.

  846. Tina says:

    And the obumbler locked them in cages and wrapped them in Reynolds wrap.

  847. NYCmike says:

    Robbie adopting, as his mantra, some jackass*s ridiculous “womp womp” utterance makes a lot of sense!

  848. Messy says:

    Trump has just folded and rescinded the separation order.

    Trump: “Speak loudly and carry a twig.”

  849. NYCmike says:

    Steve Schmidt joins MD, Author, as Democratic voters, awaits Robbie and “CG”.

    SHOCKING!

  850. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Melanie calls secret service and reports peters Fonda.

    They need to arrest him,

    Btw, has Twitter suspended his account?

  851. lisab says:

    trump just solved the obama immigration crisis!

  852. Phil says:

    That Malania…why, she’s just a c*nt like her step daughter.

  853. Tina says:

    Does Soledad like the Obama cages and Reynolds wrap?

  854. Phil says:

    Samantha Bee, De Niro, Peter Fonda……talk about badly overplaying your hand. As eaten up with hating Trump as Robbie is, even he knows not to go there.

  855. lisab says:

    actually peter fonda is probably going to gain from that

    he will at least make headlines

  856. NYCmike says:

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/germanys-largest-auto-makers-back-abolition-of-eu-u-s-car-import-tariffs-1529492027?mod=hp_lead_pos3

    -Trump pick for ambassador, along with his Commerce Secretary, speaking about being in talks with Germans about scrapping ALL tariffs with the United States…….of course, that may lead to WWIII between Germany and countries like France who will get no benefit from actual FREE TRADE.

  857. NYCmike says:

    Maggie tweeted, but Robbie did NOT relay it to HHR?!?

    What is going on around here!?

  858. NYCmike says:

    https://reason.com/blog/2018/06/19/rand-paul-endorsed-association-health-pl

    -More “showboating”.

    In related news, the wife and I are hoping to meet very soon with an associate from Medishare. We need to figure out if we will be better off with them or not.

  859. Mr.Vito says:

    The executive order should say that the mother and child will be housed together at a facility consistent with the standards set in Flores.

    I don’t have a problem with a DNA test, since they need to protect children from potential child trafficking.

  860. mnw says:

    new WV-SEN poll:

    Monmouth shows Manchin up either 7 or 9 on Morissey, with Blankenship getting 7%.

    Monmouth also has the GOP incumbent in WV-03 losing to DEM nominee Ojeda by appx 3 points.

    Cow/Walt:

    Your take on WV-03? It’s way above DW’s magic line, so blue wave in WV, I guess? /s

  861. Tina says:

    Re dna testing, the sc has ruled favoring that recently?

  862. Phil says:

    881

    Well, in the sense it gets Fonda headlines I guess you could say it accomplished that. I suppose you could say bad headlines is better than – obscurity – maybe.. That’s where he’s been for a number of years. In fact, you would be hard pressed to find an actor more washed up than he is.

    Every day the left descends further and further into insanity. My question: is there a bottom?

  863. mnw says:

    P.S.

    Monmouth polled with a standard voter turnout, & then again with a surge of DEM voters, hence the “7 or 9” point lead.

  864. lisab says:

    breaking: dems set to impeach trump for getting around 1997 immigration law!

  865. Tina says:

    Where are the jebots?

  866. Waingro says:

    MULawPoll
    ? @MULawPoll

    And it’s Baldwin 49%, Vukmir 40%, with 8% undecided and 4% neither. #mulawpoll

  867. mnw says:

    Tina

    I agree that the eo is a short term fix AT BEST. I anticipate an emergency injunction.

  868. Waingro says:

    Meanwhile, Scott Walker is in good shape.

    MULawPoll
    ? @MULawPoll
    16m16 minutes ago

    In possible matchups for governor: Walker 48% to Evers 44%; Walker 46% to Flynn 42%; Walker 46% to Gronik 41%; Walker 44% to McCabe 42%; Walker 45% to Mitchell 41% (see next tweet). #mulawpoll

    MULawPoll
    ? @MULawPoll
    12m12 minutes ago

    Walker’s job performance: 49% approve, 47% disapprove. First time since Oct 2014 that approval number is higher that disapproval number. #mulawpoll

  869. Tina says:

    https://twitter.com/VicenteFoxQue/status/1009477204210798592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com%2F2018%2F06%2F20%2Fjune-20th-2018-presidential-politics-trump-administration-day-517%2F

    Well Vincente has chimed in. This guy is arrogant, has no concern for his people. No respect for our country, Mute 43 bent for this guy too many times.

  870. mnw says:

    WG

    Did they poll Nicholson? He was leading Vukmir substantially in the most recent poll I saw.

  871. Waingro says:

    Seems like the GOP’s best chances for flips in the Senate are: MO, FL, IN and ND.

    Win all 4 of those, and then only lose 1 of AZ (looking good with McSally), NV and TN, and that’s a gain of +3, which is what I see as bottom line for being in a “comfortable” position to keep the Senate at the 2020 election. Anything more is gravy.

  872. lisab says:

    Where are the jebots?
    ——————

    waiting for new talking points

  873. mnw says:

    WG

    Looks good for McSally to win the GOP primary. I have yet to see evidence she is or will defeat Sinesma (sp?).

  874. Phil says:

    They are in a meeting, Tina. As Lisa just said, getting marching orders. Robbie will be here with them about mid afternoon.

    Can’t wait.

  875. lisab says:

    CNN June 24, 2014 10:00am-11:01am PDT

    on the immigrant centers

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=92&v=TK92pCdBKBs

  876. DW says:

    read that the sample size of the WV poll was only about 100 voters per congressional district. So take it for what it is. HUGE margin of error.

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics)
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP) | 44/30 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 42/27 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (D Internal)
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 —
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  877. mnw says:

    Trump admits eo may not survive court challenge, but he analogized it to Zero’s eo that established DACA. He says Zero’s DACA was in the same position as his new eo legally.

  878. Waingro says:

    #900, yes, she has been down in early GE polling, but she has polled much better against Sinema than Ward or Arpaio. She’s the GOP’s best chance to hold that seat period.

    Also, it’s a been pretty nasty primary, so I tend to think her numbers will improve a bit once the primary is over.

  879. DW says:

    Furthermore, I am never impressed when pollsters start getting cute with stuff like ‘blue-wave’ numbers, in addition to all voters, registered voters, likely voters.

    They should have spent more time getting a larger sample size than getting cute with the modelling.

  880. DW says:

    here is the full statement by Monmouth:

    “The Monmouth University Poll was conducted by telephone from June 14 to 19, 2018 with 653 West Virginia voters, which includes a sample of 428 voters in West Virginia’s 3rd Congressional District – the sample was weighted to ensure that the statewide results reflect the appropriate share of voters in each congressional district.”

    The first district had a sample of 87 voters, and 138 for WV-02.

    So they get four times the sample size for district 3, then they have to tinker with it to get an accurate senate poll? Sorry, that sounds like trash to me. No amount of tinkering will fix it if the 87+138 happened to be further left than the rest of those districts. In other words, the small sample in CDs 1 and 2 cannot be overcome.

    Wes is better at this than I am, but this smacks of

  881. Tina says:

    Phil, we do need the kos talking points of the day.z

  882. DW says:

    oops…left off end…this Monmouth poll looks like junk to me.

  883. DW says:

    And of course Monmouth put Blankenship right into the first question:
    “1/2.   If the election for U.S. Senate was today, would you vote for Patrick Morrisey the Republican, Joe Manchin the Democrat, Don Blankenship of the Constitution Party, or some other candidate?”

    This even though last I heard Blankenship has not cleared legal muster to be on ballot under the Constitution Party. But Monmouth wanted him at the top of the poll so his supporters would jump in and affirm a vote for him…likely harming Morrisey’s numbers.

  884. DW says:

    NM-Gov: Grisham (D) 51, Pearce (R) 43
    NM-Sen: Heinrich (D) 50, Rich (R) 39
    NM-01: Haaland (D) 47, Arnold-Jones (R) 43
    NM-02: Yvette Harrell (R) 49, Xochitl Torres Small (D) 35
    https://www.kob.com/politics-news/poll-lujan-grisham-leads-pearce-in-race-for-governor/4956518/

    NM_01 is ranked as Safe D.
    NM_02 is Lean R.

  885. DW says:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    WV_03* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 181 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 184 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 186 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics)
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP) | 44/30 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 42/27 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (D Internal)
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 —
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  886. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #911
    DW
    You do great work Thank You.
    Albeit, you should change NM CD-2 to Likely R.A 14 pt. lead is significant.

    Also, a new Quinnipiac Poll has The Donalds approval at its highest ever- 43%(disapproval 52%).

  887. JC says:

    Quinnipiac is consistently one of the most left friendly polls in the country.

  888. BayernFan says:

    837… mnw…..

    I think Donnelly knows he is in a fight for this seat. I don’t think the Dem base here is revved up about him after he has supported Trump on some things lately. I noticed yesterday that he received the support of some “GOP group”….dont ask me who…I didn’t follow it.

    I think Braun will have a united GOP behind him and will be well funded so he will have a real good chance to win. There are not many polls of Indiana for some reason. I believe the last one was tight after the primary and Braun was up 4.

    Donnelly, it seems to me, is spending a lot of effort trying to convince GOP voters to vote for him. What does that tell you? He’ll be straddling the fence big time from here to November.

  889. NYCmike says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/socialists-nielsen-dc-restaurant/

    -If it was at my house, I would be uncomfortable.

    BUT, in a restaurant, I don’t think it would have bothered me.

    I have a big family, so the noise would have made it feel like a regular family dinner.

  890. lisab says:

    Germany will offer to scrap the EU’s 10% tax on US autos

  891. Tim says:

    #915:
    So…….if the desired result is not published, it must be the poll’s fault? I guarantee you, the next time they publish a poll that shows a poor result for a Democrat, you will see the argument from Liberal blogs made that Quinnipiac is favorable to Conservatives. The best way to do this is through a compilation of all the polls. You consistently get a more accurate picture of where a race is, that way.

  892. dblaikie says:

    From the Drudge Report a link for a very interesting group of pictures of immigrant children being detained during the Obama Administration. The children are in very warm and attractive cages and jammed together like pigs in a blanket. I dedicate the pictures to Robbie. Here is the link:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/photos-obama-immigration-detention-facilities

  893. NYCmike says:

    “jammed together like pigs in a blanket.”

    -My best friend from childhood got married about 20 years ago.

    ALL of the wedding plans were taken care of by his eventual wife. He had a couple of ideas, but she said “No way!”.

    He did, however, draw the line at her refusal to serve “pigs in a blanket” during the cocktail hour. She folded.

    At the reception, there was a near-riot after the kitchen staff ran out after only about 10 minutes. Another friend ran to a supermarket a block away, bought a dozen boxes or so from the frozen section, and more were made.

    Everyone went home happy, and my friend and his wife are still married!

  894. Tim says:

    Ah, so the deal is that it’s all Obama’s fault, eh? You are all welcome to think what you want to think. But truthfully, about 2/3 of Americans right now would think that line of reasoning is basically horses**t. LOL——–I mean, you know, facts……Trump did this, guys. No one else separated these children from their families. Sessions announced the policy in April, and Nielsen announced its’ enactment in May. You all keep up with the news. You know this. Trump just committed a massive mistake that’s blowing up in his face. So now, he’s walking it back. That’s about the size of it.

  895. Phil says:

    I would have given a week’s salary to have been able to be at Tim’s house election night 2016.

  896. Tina says:

    Liberal group will now sue over trumps executive order.

  897. NYCmike says:

    “You are all welcome to think what you want to think. But truthfully, about 2/3 of Americans right now would think that line of reasoning is basically horses**t.”

    -“right now” are the key words.

    In the next week, when the media and the Democrats are in an uproar, over keeping the kids with their parents, then the public will end up getting all of the information.

    It is only June, Tim.

    The elections are in November.

    Time marches on, and information will get out to the masses.

    I’ll take my chances with shaking things up a bit in June.

  898. NYCmike says:

    “I would have given a week’s salary to have been able to be at Tim’s house election night 2016.”

    -Heh.

    How much to be at Robbie’s?

  899. biomom says:

    873

    Good riddance! Never liked him.

  900. Robbie says:

    I’m glad Trump signed an order to stop the separation of children from their parents.

    That said, why couldn’t the crack crew at the White House have spelled the word “separation” correctly on the executive order Trump signed?

  901. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 20, 2018 at 12:48 pm
    Steve Schmidt joins MD, Author, as Democratic voters, awaits Robbie and “CG”.

    SHOCKING!

    – Wrong Trump loving fake conservative, NYCmike. Unlike Jason fraud, I will not leave the Republican Party. Nor will I vote for a Democrat. If glorious dear leader Trump is the Republican nominee in 2020, I will do just what I did in 2016 and several other regulars here did. I will choose not to vote for either Trump or the Democrat.

    I choose to stay and fight for real Republican Party. Not the populist, nationalist, cult-like operation it is right now that you support.

  902. DW says:

    –913: The rankings are not mine, but the forecasters shown.

    And here is the sort of expert analysis you can get at RRH:

    election brown
    June 20, 2018 at 3:28 pm
    They definitely botched the NM-01 poll. No way that is accurate.

  903. Robbie says:

    Misspelling of “separation” in Trump’s EO.

    https://twitter.com/chrisgeidner/status/1009518283794599943

  904. Phil says:

    Steve Schmidt has left the Republican Party.

    This is devastating.

    BTW Steve, nice 2008 campaign.

  905. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Allegations against Peterson suggest only that he “opted for self-preservation over heroics,” the attorneys wrote.”

    Finally, an honest statement.

    “FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — Many have called him a coward, but former sheriff’s deputy Scot Peterson had no legal duty to stop the slaughter at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School, his attorneys say.

    Peterson took shelter rather than confront the killer, but he did not act with malice or bad faith, according to his attorneys, Michael Piper and Christopher Stearns of Fort Lauderdale. Therefore he can’t be held legally responsible for the deaths, they say in court documents.”

  906. Phil says:

    ABC has apologized for running a banner across the screen saying Paul Manafort has admitting to manslaughter and killing five people?

    They reported what? Oh my God!

    Just when you think the MSM can’t top themselves……

  907. Tina says:

    Schmidt lilies her thighness, just like the jebots.

    He was devastated when she lost.

  908. DW says:

    935 – here is how and why that happens. The news media is so biased, they joke among themselves about such things, and probably the guy responsible setting up the news banners and screen crawls put it in as a joke for the editor who checks them before going live, and the guy either believed it due to his bias or didn’t see it before approving it.

  909. Phil says:

    Probably right, DW. That’s as good an explanation as any. Of course, the media just can’t understand how all us rubes out here are too stupid to accept their news at face value. After all, they are professional journalists for God’s sake.

  910. DW says:

    938 – yep–if they want to know who is responsible for the charge of ‘Fake News’ they can just look into a mirror.

  911. Tina says:

    I believe that manafort did that.

    Jebot

  912. Phil says:

    In other resistance news we have federal marshalls searching for 26 year old Shawn Christy of MCAdoo Pa who on social media threatened to put a bullit in the head of Donald Trump. Seems Christy and his father were found guilty in 2012 of making hundreds of threatening phone calls to Sarah Palin and her attorney and are currently on probation.

    Wonder if he’s hiding out at Peter Fonda’s house. Could be at Colbert’s house or Fallon’s or Joy Behar’s house…….so many possibilities. Where to look first.

  913. NYCmike says:

    “I choose to stay and fight for real Republican Party. Not the populist, nationalist, cult-like operation it is right now that you support.”

    -Is this “real Republican Party” AGAINST 4% economic growth?

    -Is this “real Republican Party” AGAINST conservative justices?

    -Is this “real Republican Party” AGAINST eliminating burdensome regulations?

    -Is this “real Republican Party” AGAINST a more competitive health insurance industry?

    -Is this “real Republican Party” AGAINST a military which focused more on winning the peace, as opposed to a main focus being getting more females into decision-making positions?

  914. Tina says:

    Trump just tweeted about abc news fake headline on manafort.

  915. Tina says:

    Way to also impact a potential jury, abc news

  916. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Articles of impeachment drafted against swampstein.

    Remember, this appears warranted since the Ig report suggests that the stop trump text message was not submitted to congress. Rosenstein hid it, per the Ig.

    Threats against congressional staff.

    Refusing to hand over documents.

    Claiming 2 fib agents were in counterintelligence, when they were lawyahs.

    But bye dork.

  917. mnw says:

    BF 917

    Thx for your thoughts about IN SEN. That race hasn’t gotten as much attention lately as the other tossups.

    DW

    Sorry, I knew the magic line was not your personal creation. VERY useful, though.

    electionbrown should be considered a leftwing troll.

  918. NYCmike says:

    “Donnelly, it seems to me, is spending a lot of effort trying to convince GOP voters to vote for him. What does that tell you? He’ll be straddling the fence big time from here to November.”

    -Memo to Mitch: Make these Democratic Senators take some tough votes!

    Even make them vote on symbolic things, like Jesse Helms used to do.

  919. Mr.Vito says:

    “Trump just tweeted about abc news fake headline on manafort.”

    Well, they put Manafort in solitary*, so you would think he must have murdered some people.

    *that’s not a joke… they really put him in solitary…

  920. NYCmike says:

    http://www.fox5ny.com/news/plumbing-leak-55-stories-underground

    -In other news…..there are more leaks here than even in D.C.!

  921. Tina says:

    It figures that the socialist likes the deep state.

  922. Tina says:

    Socialist and deep state go hand in hand,

    All of this because Hillary lost.

    Get over it socialist.

  923. CG says:

    I think Manafort would agree that he is safer and better off in solitary confinement than in the prison general population once the gangbangers figure out who he is.

    Unbelievable idiocy by ABC News. They just threw raw meat to you people.

  924. Tina says:

    Hopefully, manafort appeals the ruling by the leftist judge.

    It is unprecedented because Fuhrer Mulehead refused to even confirm whether the person he spoke to is on a witness list,

  925. Robbie says:

    This tweet was in response to Trump’s claim the House GOP conference laughed and applauded when he mocked Mark Sanford last night.

    It’s a vivid reminder that Trump is a lying liar who lies all day long.

    Justin Amash
    @justinamash

    Justin Amash Retweeted Donald J. Trump
    House Republicans had front row seats to @POTUS’s dazzling display of pettiness and insecurity. Nobody applauded or laughed. People were disgusted.

  926. Tina says:

    Did this happen while the markets were open?

    It could be Brian Ross 2.0.

  927. DW says:

    finally got around to adding recent polls to senate dashboard:

    Paladin – 2018 Senate Dashboard
    ———————————————————–
    ST | Cnt | Cook |Gonz | Saba | NYT | Fox | CNN | RCP | Score — Latest Poll
    ———————————————————–
    NE | 46 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    MS | 47 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    TX | 48 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.4 — 50/39 (Quinnipiac)
    TN | 49 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 — 43/46 (Mason-Dixon)
    —-Democrats need ALL the below for control—-
    MO | 51 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 45/45 (Emerson)
    IN | 50 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 47/46 (Gravis)
    FL | 49 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 48/45 (Florida Chamber)
    WV | 48 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/50 (Monmouth)
    ND | 47 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 48/44 (Mason-Dixon)
    AZ | 46 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    NV | 45 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.2 — 40/39 (Nevada Ind)
    MT | 44 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 — 44/52 (Gravis)
    OH | 43 | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.5 — 34/51 (Quinnipiac)
    WI | 42 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.7 — 39/50 (Marquette)
    MN | 41 | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    PA | 40 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 — 27/44 (F&M)
    MI | 39 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.2 —
    NJ | 38 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -4.5 — 32/53 (Monmouth)
    VA | 37 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.1 — 33/44 (Roanoke)
    ME | 36 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —

  928. Robbie says:

    I’m really going to enjoy watching the state run news propogandists on FoxNews switch from “separating children from their parents is totally cool” to “Trump not separating children from their parents is the right move”.

  929. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 20, 2018 at 5:34 pm
    Did this happen while the markets were open?
    It could be Brian Ross 2.0.

    – Bless your heart.

  930. Phil says:

    They’ve been throwing raw meat since Trump took office. MSM can’t help themselves. It’s who they are.

  931. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/YahooNews/status/1009540003674943488

    Headline:
    Obama cyber chief confirms ‘stand down’ order against Russian cyberattacks in summer 2016

    June 20, 2018

    WASHINGTON — The Obama White House’s chief cyber official testified Wednesday that proposals he was developing to counter Russia’s attack on the U.S. presidential election were put on a “back burner” after he was ordered to “stand down” his efforts in the summer of 2016.

    The comments by Michael Daniel, who served as White House “cyber security coordinator” between 2012 and January of last year…came during a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing into how the Obama administration dealt with Russian cyber and information warfare attacks in 2016…

    one of Daniel’s staff members, Daniel Prieto, recounted a staff meeting shortly after the cyber coordinator was ordered by Susan Rice, President Obama’s national security adviser, to stop his efforts and “stand down.”

    Did the Commander in Spies give this order?

  932. Robbie says:

    But muh populism is the best.

    Brendan Nyhan
    @BrendanNyhan

    “the inevitable dilemma of a populist leader: He was elected promising easy solutions, and is discovering none exist.”

  933. Tina says:

    Phil, abc president will apologize while nothing gets done.

    Look for Brian Ross 3.0.

  934. Tina says:

    Pretty evident that the obumbler was more worried about Reynolds wrapping kids, locking them in cages, and spying on trump.

  935. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 20, 2018 at 5:41 pm
    They’ve been throwing raw meat since Trump took office. MSM can’t help themselves. It’s who they are.

    – On this issue, you and I are in 100% agreement. And it’s not just FoxNews that’s the problem (although they’re big one).

    Media has become choose your own adventure. If you want MAGA, you go with Fox and talk radio. If you want impeachment talk, there’s the MSNBC primetime lineup.

  936. Tina says:

    She stand down order by the spy chief obumbler is breaking everywhere now,

  937. Phil says:

    Hey, that Reynold’s Wrap is a great product. It’s been around forever.

  938. Phil says:

    965

    yep

  939. Tina says:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/us/politics/trump-immigration-children-executive-order.html#click=https://t.co/MLSvk7iXQV

    My times admits that the eo will be challenged in court because it violates the Flores settement.

    But we were told by leftists that it was just an easily fixable muh policy issue.

  940. Robbie says:

    Alex Burns
    @alexburnsNYT

    This Charlie Black comment, to @jmartNYT less than 3 weeks ago, holds up OK

    “We’re on the right track, things look pretty good today … But Trump is like a suicide bomber: He could still blow himself up the day before the election and ruin everything.”

  941. Phil says:

    Trump is quite capable of blowing himself up. Trouble is, so is the left. De Niro, Fonda, CNN, the late night talk show hosts, etc. with all the over the top stuff may as well be writing campaign checks to Trump’s reelection campaign. They just can’t help themselves.

  942. mnw says:

    Tina & anyone else interested:

    The discussion of the legal status of Trump’s eo, in the comments at RRH, is pretty good– esp roguemapper posts, imo.

  943. Phil says:

    ….but asking people who are so insanely crazy with hate to reign it in is impossible – especially when those folks are baited by Trump tweets on a daily basis.

  944. Tina says:

    I will check it out, mnw. Thanks.

    Important to note how the media said it was a policy, but now admit that the eo conflicts with Flores.

    Everything that you posted this am,I

  945. Tina says:

    I wonder if the rooster and Nunes go through with impeaching swampstein.

    Pass the popcorn, if he threatened staffers, hid documents from the Ig, etc. I do not see how he remains,

    As a witness to a matter, the firing of comedy, I do not know how he remains acting ag.

  946. Tina says:

    Fox News

    Presidents approval at 48 percent,

    Is this new?

  947. Phil says:

    Again, if you want more Trump and to raise his approval numbers, just throw out more Michelle Wolfe, De Niro, Samantha Bee, Peter Fonda, Hollywood over the top BS.

    Trump thanks each and every one of them.

  948. Tina says:

    More Hogg too.

    Where did he go?

    And stormy and amniotic?

  949. Messy says:

    976. No, it’s quite old. The latest Fox noise poll has Dasterdly Donnie at 45%.

  950. Messy says:

    Michel Cohen resigned as assistant finance chairman of the Republican National Committee today….and get this! He did it to protest Trump’s baby jails!!!!

    I don’t think that’s actually the reason.

  951. Phil says:

    Oh no. First Schmidt and now Cohen. How will Trump go on?

  952. Tina says:

    Large Duluth, Minnesota rally going on.

    Jebots triggered.

  953. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram
    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    From colleague Jason Donner. Schumer on child separation legislation: It’s not necessary right now because the problem is ostensibly solved but what’s been opened is a lot of areas that we should take a good look and see if we need to change our laws in some ways.
    4:41 PM · Jun 20, 2018
    16
    Retweets
    22
    Likes

    Poor Schumah.

  954. mnw says:

    I think it’s funny that Drudge headlines, “Trump Approval At 48%”… citing today’s Rasmussen Daily Presidential Tracking poll.

    Uh, guys? It’s been 48% for three consecutive days! News is whatever you think is news, I guess.

    And Lindy made it all the way to Paris, too, Drudge.

  955. mnw says:

    NYC

    About that “buying opportunity” we touched on yesterday? Well, fwiw…

    The National Assoc of Manufacturers (NAM) Outlook Survey reports that 95.1% of its members are bullish about their companies’ prospects for the coming year.

    That is the highest reading since the NAM Outlook Survey started, 20 years ago.

  956. mnw says:

    P.S.

    Sorry to be a threadpig tonight, (like the trolls here are all day EVERY day), but…

    Let us posit for consideration the possibility that the trade pillow fight with China simply blows over… China blinks & Trump compromises a little.

    What would likely happen to the DOW & the “broader-based indexes” then, hmmm?

    The pillow fight is not like a war or an erupting volcano– it could go away just as fast as it came. Note that Asian indexes have been taking a good ole country beating of late.

  957. NYCmike says:

    Hey mnw,

    I may have to re-think my optimism when you tell me that, because it make me think of Warren Buffett: “Be fearful when others are greedy, and greedy when others are fearful!”

  958. NYCmike says:

    Robbie and Kamala Harris sittin’ in a tree,
    D O O M I N G!

    First comes hysteria,
    Then comes pizzagate,
    Then comes “CG” floatin’ on sanctimony,
    And Robbie yapping, doing the brokered convention dance!

  959. NYCmike says:

    Lost it a little at the end there!

  960. NYCmike says:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/koch-family-vs-nashville-transit/

    -Pretty funny read, here. I love the sarcasm dripping from this line:

    “So how much of their eleven-figure net worth did the Kochs’ AFP pump into Nashville in their fell scheme to protect their precious seatbelt industry? Less than $10,000.”

  961. NYCmike says:

    https://www.upi.com/Energy-News/2018/06/20/Trump-erases-Obama-era-offshore-rules/1871529488988/?utm_source=fp&utm_campaign=ls&utm_medium=4

    -What was Robbie fighting for again?

    “I choose to stay and fight for real Republican Party. Not the populist, nationalist, cult-like operation it is right now that you support.”

    -Is this “real Republican Party” AGAINST drilling for oil, and having industry work with environmental organizations, localities, etc?

  962. Bitterlaw says:

    Tomorrow I will be flying to Rome with my family. My son is studying there for 6 weeks. There may not be a less Bitterlaw place on Earth – good food and wine. Too bad my son didn’t go to England.

  963. Cash Cow TM says:

    WV
    U.S. Senate race…………&…….WV CD3
    *********************************************
    MONMOUTH UNIV.
    48 Manchin
    39 Morrisey
    04 Blankenship
    _____________
    Without Blankenship:
    49 Manchin
    42 Morrisey (who survived a bruising primary)
    MOE: 3.8%
    ______________________________________
    WV CD3
    43 Richard Ojeda (D)
    41 Carol Miller (R) (who survived a bruising primary in a very crowded field)
    MOE: 4.7%
    ##############################
    BIG DISCLAIMER (FROM Cow):
    “The poll was conducted between June 14 and June 19 with 653 registered voters, including a sample of 428 voters living in the 3rd Congressional District.”

    COW TRANSLATION on the Manchin/Morrisey race:

    #1–an RV poll (we all know about RV polls…)

    #2 2/3 of those polled live in CD3–so CD3 (southern third of WV) is WAY overpopulated in this poll

    **************************************
    CHARLESTON, W.Va. — U.S. Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., and state Sen. Richard Ojeda, D-Logan, lead their respective opponents in this year’s election in a Monmouth University poll released Wednesday.

    Manchin leads Republican candidate and state Attorney General Patrick Morrisey 48 percent to 39 percent. Former coal executive Don Blankenship, who announced last month he would run as the Constitution Party’s candidate, has 4 percent.

    Blankenship’s run for Senate is in question because of the state’s “sour grapes” rule; the former Massey Energy CEO finished third in the Republican Senate primary in May.

    When Blankenship was not provided as an option, 49 percent of respondents favored Manchin compared to 42 percent for Morrisey. The statewide poll has a margin of error of 3.8 percentage points.

    In the 3rd Congressional District, Ojeda leads Delegate Carol Miller, R-Cabell, 43-41, within the poll’s margin of error of 4.7 percentage points. The seat is currently held by U.S. Rep. Evan Jenkins, R-W.Va., who defeated Democratic Rep. Nick Rahall in 2014 to flip the district. Jenkins finished second in last month’s Senate primary.”

  964. mnw says:

    PDT also met with mining executives in MN today, who thanked him profusely (and publicly) for helping to create the conditions that have caused so many of their laid off employees to be re-hired.

    The rally seems to have been a raucous hoot.

  965. mnw says:

    Cow

    Thanks for your analysis.

  966. Tina says:

    The president took apart the Russian hoax at the Duluth rally.

  967. Tina says:

    The offshore rules do not matter.

    Muh Mika Face matters.

    Jebot

  968. Tina says:

    1000.

  969. mnw says:

    In honor of our host Dave W., I think we should have a special, designated part of each thread where we discuss the most interesting aspects of Maryland politics. Let’s do it! I’ll get things started, OK? …

    I got nothin’.

  970. mnw says:

    M

    (It only counts if you use Roman numerals.)

  971. Cash Cow TM says:

    “mnw says:
    June 20, 2018 at 1:40 pm
    new WV-SEN poll:

    Monmouth shows Manchin up either 7 or 9 on Morissey, with Blankenship getting 7%.

    Monmouth also has the GOP incumbent in WV-03 losing to DEM nominee Ojeda by appx 3 points.

    Cow/Walt:

    Your take on WV-03? It’s way above DW’s magic line, so blue wave in WV, I guess? /s”
    ##################################################
    I see now that DW has already fisked the Monmouth poll and agree wholeheartedly with DW’s take on the U.S. Senate race.
    ______________________
    On WV CD3:
    Was D stronghold for 8 decades.
    Rahall (D) was in there for LONG time…
    Jenkins (R) defeated Rahall…finally.
    It is still majority D in registered voters, but they are blue collar, conservative Ds who have been voting for Rs (lots of R state legislative candidates have been elected from there in last 8 years).

    Walt served with Carol Miller in the House of Delegates. Her husband owns a bunch of car dealerships, and they have a farm where they raise buffalo. She is from Huntington [in populous Cabell County] (Huntington is largest city in CD3, but on western end). Her father was a congressman from Ohio. She ran in a VERY crowded R field in the primary and did far better than I thought she would. She has been in House of Delegates for 10-12 years. She SHOULD play on her gender and go after the womens voter there–WV’s 1st female member elected to the U.S. House of Representatives was Shelley Moore Capito…Miller is no Capito though as to her campaign ability or family name…This will be the first time maybe ever that a woman will be on the ballot for U.S. congress in WV CD3…

    Ojeda is from Logan county. Many people feel Ojeda is a wild eyed nut (favors legalization of weed, free health care and free college for all, threw hand grenades every day during the session in the State Senate, agitated for the teachers to go/stay on strike and played to them which is paying off politically.) As a first term state senator, he is long on inflammatory rhetoric and short on reason, tact and fiscal responsibility and short on actual legislative accomplishments. The teacher/school service personnel unions are strongest and best organized though in southern WV, which will be a plus for Ojeda as they are 110% behind him.

    The WV CD3 is southern third of state (South of Charleston). Biggest cities in CD3 are Huntington Cabell co.), Beckley (Raleigh Co), Bluefield, Princeton (Mercer co.), Lewisburg (Greenbrier co.)
    Demographics favor Miller (R) in that Cabell, Raleigh, Mercer and Greenbrier counties and even much smaller Monroe county have all trended well to the R side in voting in last 6 or 7 election cycles (12-14 years).

    The most southern coal counties that were huge D strongholds (Mingo, Logan, Wyoming, Lincoln, Boone, McDowell) are in severe population and economic decline.

    I did not think Miller would win the R primary. I though she would come in 3rd at best, but she won in that very crowded field. I do not have a good feel for southern WV politics…it is a different world down there…I say right now it is a coin flip in November…I do not feel Miller has the strengths of congressman Evan Jenkins. He is also from Cabell County just like Miller and they are on good terms. She SHOULD enlist his help on the campaign trail, as Jenkins is still very popular in CD3.

    Might be close race there in Nov.
    Hope Miller can win by 1 or 2%.

  972. mnw says:

    Thanks again, Cow.

    A bit alarming in that WV-03 is so far above the magic line on DW’s dashboard.

    I was In Beckley once to interview a federal prisoner. My employer got charged extra for my hotel room because it was “ski season”! Who knew?

  973. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The concern troll will not be back until the updated Democratic talking points are released.

  974. Tina says:

    Phil Kerpen
    @kerpen
    ·
    14h
    Per Economist/YouGov: 46% of registered voters support Trump’s new policy of family detention versus only 19% for catch-and-release.
    (link: https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/rbrysksiud/econTabReport.pdf#page89) d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_upload…
    Embedded

    Muh kids failed.

  975. Messy says:

    1007. ambulance chaser? It’s dirty work, but it’s necessary. The 2400 kids are still in custody and don’t seem to be coming out of it.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2018/06/20/tender-age-children-flood-shelters-and-foster-care-under-trump-policy/2vZ8F5lhKWIfsjSNsagxsK/story.html?p1=BGHeader_SmartBar_Breaking?s_campaign=breakingnews:newsletter

    1006. Maybe we should go back to the policies of the Coolidge/Hoover administrations and invade those countries temporarily…..

    998. He tried. But he can’t as there is NO Russian hoax.

  976. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1008
    Of course, Moron Messy missed the big story from yesterday. To wit: Obama’s head of cybersecurity received a “stand down” order from Susan Rice and others during the Summer 2018 to not try to investigate or stop Russian meddling in the 2018 election
    So her Messiah, willfully did NOTHING to stop the Russians, but, in her world, The Donald is wrong to claim there was no Russian hoax.

  977. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1009
    s/b 2016

  978. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Sleazy Sky Queen McCaskill(D-MO) once again in the news(KC Star) for,at best, hypocrisy.
    If she wins in November, the MO GOP should hang-up its jock!

    http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics-government/article212945549.html

  979. mnw says:

    Shep

    1) I have to give the leftoid KC Scar some credit for printing that. If HRC had done the same thing, nobody would ever know about it– unless they read conservative message boards or Breitbart.

    2) I continue to fret about the invisible Mr. Hawley, frankly. Reminds me of the TV movie “Lonesome Dove”– “for God’s sake, SHOOT! I’ll pay for your ammunition myself, OK? Just shoot!”

  980. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Sen. Jeff Flake(R-AZ) is truly a vindictive skunk.

    https://hotair.com/archives/2018/06/21/trumps-judicial-nominees-now-threat/

  981. Messy says:

    1010. Susan Rice secretly endorsed TRUMP?!?!?!?! Suuure….

    That makes baby jails okay, eh?

  982. mnw says:

    1013

    That’s an insult to skunks.

    I recall that when I advocated primarying that azalea, I got called a “deadender” by all the usual suspects here.

    He sez he’s gonna primary Trump. If you bet $10 on Flake to win in Vegas, you COULD make three billion dollars.

  983. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1014
    I know reading is not your forte, but here is the Yahoo article excerpt on the Russian cyber security matter.

    Sen. James Risch, R-Idaho, asked about a “Russian Roulette” passage in which one of Daniel’s staff members, Daniel Prieto, recounted a staff meeting shortly after the cyber coordinator was ordered by Susan Rice, President Obama’s national security adviser, to stop his efforts and “stand down.” This order was in part because Rice feared the options would leak and “box the president in.”

    “I was incredulous and in disbelief,” Prieto is quoted as saying in the book. “It took me a moment to process Susan Rice’s command. In my head, I was like, did I hear that correctly?” Prieto told the authors he then spoke up, asking Daniel: “Why the hell are we standing down? Michael, can you help us understand?”

  984. Tina says:

    I like flake

    Jebot

  985. mnw says:

    Trolls:

    I need to run something down here, & it’s complex, so try to stay with me, especially those who think ‘disintegrates’ is spelled with three iiis::

    Last nite in Duluth, Trump said he almost carried MN last time, & that he WOULD carry it next time.

    Sounds like there will be a “next time.”

    Don’t worry, though, because… Kamala.

  986. GPO says:

    Flake is scum

  987. mnw says:

    46/52

    Check out Howard Root’s photos of the rally in Duluth last nite! At Power Line blog.

  988. mnw says:

    RE: SCOTUS

    A usually reliable poster at RRH says that one of Alito, Thomas or Roberts will be writing the travel ban & the remaining redistricting opinions.

    About that rally:

    Mono cane! Che spectaculo!

  989. Robbie says:

    Why would Trump talk about the economy (something that’s a real success, unites Republicans, and puts Democrats on the defensive) when he can talk about immigration (something that splits Republicans and unites Democrats).

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    Democrats want open Borders, where anyone can come into our Country, and stay. This is Nancy Pelosi’s dream. It won’t happen!

  990. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    June 21, 2018 at 9:07 am
    Sen. Jeff Flake(R-AZ) is truly a vindictive skunk.
    https://hotair.com/archives/2018/06/21/trumps-judicial-nominees-now-threat/

    – What goes around comes around, Trumpaloos.

    I don’t like this move by Flake, but there were always going to be consequences to Donnie tough guy’s act. Now, we’re starting to see them.

    Almost makes you think maybe it would have been smarter for Trump to spend the last 18 months making friends, rather than lashing out and making enemies. Strange, I know.

  991. Phil says:

    About the only redeeming value of Flake was his votes on conservative judges. Now he’s decided to throw a wrench into that one too.

    Worthless.

  992. Phil says:

    …and yeah, Trump is his own worst enemy over and over. Still, if Flake was a committed conservative instead of, well, a useless flake, he wouldn’t be pulling this.

  993. Waingro says:

    #1024, tactics like that are not exactly going to endear Flake to conservative Trump critics like myself if he ever wants to run as an “independent” or whatever in the future.

    Sounds like Flake is setting himself up for a new career on CNN/PMSNBC in the anti-Trump absolutist RINO form. Like the Anna Navarro/Jennifer Rubins of the world. Good riddance if that’s the case.

  994. Phil says:

    That’s exactly what Flake’s doing, Waingro. Being critical of Trump is one thing. There is a ton to be critical of. Helping Schumer block conservative judges is inexcusable.

    He and Navarro should get a room. Worthless, both of them.

  995. mnw says:

    Do you enjoy the fact that Flake is a lameduck? That he only has 5 months & change left, before the door hits him in the adz?

    Well then, send Dr. Kelli Ward a nice thank you note. (the world would rather not hear that)

    Anyway, always remember, no matter how godawful a RINO is, at least it’s still a vote to organize a GOP Senate!*

    * cough! Jim Jeffords! cough!

  996. Tina says:

    Flaky is flaking.

    Wants headlines,

    These rinos love cameras.

  997. Tina says:

    If Mitchie had any, he would pull flakey from all committee assignments,

  998. Tina says:

    Susan rice gave the stand down order on Russia.

    She again blames you tube.

  999. Robbie says:

    Now I understand why some Republicans weren’t keen on Cramer because of his penchant to say crazy things.

    Jennifer Bendery
    @jbendery

    GOP congressman Kevin Cramer says there’s “nothing inhumane” about putting children in cages at border detention facilities because “chain-link fences are around playgrounds all over America.

  1000. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 21, 2018 at 11:32 am

    These rinos love cameras.

    – No one loves the camera more than your needy, narcissistic man, Donnie.

  1001. Tgca says:

    1020

    I agree with the general decision here by SCOTUS on sales tax. Earlier in my career, I worked on SALT (Sales and local taxes) and had to deal with the various numerous requirements of determining Nexus (ability to impose tax due to set rules, usually a physical presence of some sort ) for each state and how to impose and collect taxes. It is quite burdensome process and often difficult to implement.

    Though the collection of taxes is a burdensome process, there is a fairness component here as well. Once the Internet came along, many companies found they could limit their tax collecting requirements by choosing strategically their distribution centers and sales offices. The 1992 SCOTUS decision is really outdated due to the change in technology and its impact on the workforce so though it was helpful while the internet was in its infancy, it’s now seems that ruling hurts retailers with physical locations.

    The bottom line to me is that if a consumer can click a button and get product mailed to their home or office, how is that very much difference then running to the store to get the same product? Does this give the online retailer an unfair advantage for being in the same business and performing the same service with only the delivery method being the real difference in most cases?

    Though I gave up my tax work years ago, I think this has been a long-time coming and the right thing to equalize the playing field.

    So I affirm this SCOTUS decision. 🙂

    Besides, it will create some work for IT, accounting, and tax professionals in the near future as implementation occurs.

    MAGA!

  1002. hugh says:

    TGCA. Very true. Republicans need to get smart about what taxes are good and bad and why. They are not all bad. However many state have gotten out of control in terms of what income is theirs to tax.

    How are you feeling?

  1003. Tgca says:

    1036

    Hugh! I am glad you agree with me, as I think everyone here should.

    I am feeling as good as can be at this time, thanks for asking. The worst is behind me. I’m hobbling around on a cane and off the walker. Anyone interested in purchasing a used walker and unused commode? Not much pain if I manage my sitting, standing, and walking times, just more discomfort and definitely difficulty sleeping.

    I have 2 more follow-up surgical procedures that are more simple and require no hospital stay with short recovery periods of a few weeks each and then I’m done! 4 surgeries in one year is enough dammit!!!

  1004. NYCmike says:

    “– No one loves the camera more than your needy, narcissistic man, Donnie.”

    -jason, Bitterlaw,

    I think even the 2 of you will allow this comparison!

    Reagan was a movie star, for gosh sakes! He loved the camera, and the camera loved him!

  1005. NYCmike says:

    “– What goes around comes around, Trumpaloos.”

    -Robbie,

    ALL citizens are affected by judicial decisions.

    You are just as petty and vicious as Flake and Trump, if you don’t go after Flake on this.

    And HELLO, there is a difference between the 2 people.

    Trump is President, YOUR President.

    Flake is just a Senator, soon to be ex-Senator.

    Flake won’t affect Trump at all. He will affect the many Republicans running for Congress, if judges languish in committee.

  1006. Tina says:

    Proposal to merge the departments of labor and education.

    This will trigger the real cons.

  1007. NYCmike says:

    “Hugh! I am glad you agree with me, as I think everyone here should.”

    -Definitely!

    I would send you a cake, but my baker refuses to bake cakes for people who say internet taxes are fair!

  1008. Tina says:

    Trump should abolish the departments of no energy and education,

    I know the bush gangstera will not be happy since those are federal agencies they love.

  1009. NYCmike says:

    “Proposal to merge the departments of labor and education.”

    -That came out of nowhere.

    Who will be let go, Devos or Acosta?

    Or will they “merge” as well?

  1010. Tina says:

    http://freebeacon.com/issues/ig-report-highlights-fbi-counterspy-failings/

    Ig summary by Gertz.

    Cannot wait to the fisa abuses, fib scandals.

  1011. Tina says:

    rrySchweikart
    ·
    12m
    The real question of all this is that who pulled the trigger on “muh children?” Why now? Someone had to coordinate the media on all this.

    We know they were desperate, getting crushed by the OIG report and the jobs and economic #s

  1012. Tina says:

    Andrew McCarthy calls for an end to Fuhrer Mulehead

    https://t.co/F0zdLK69fU?amp=1

  1013. Chicon says:

    1022 – Mnw, I don’t think there’s another gerrymandering case to be released. I think there’s an NC case on the docket for next term.

  1014. Robbie says:

    Josh Kraushaar
    @HotlineJosh

    BY THE NUMBERS: Cook Report now has 84 GOP-held seats as potentially competitive (56 in the most competitive categories).

    Ds need to flip at least 23 of them to win back the House. Meaning they need to win ~27% of all potential targets // ~41% of the most competitive races.

  1015. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Why would Trump talk about the economy (something that’s a real success, unites Republicans, and puts Democrats on the defensive) when he can talk about immigration (something that splits Republicans and unites Democrats).

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    Democrats want open Borders, where anyone can come into our Country, and stay. This is Nancy Pelosi’s dream. It won’t happen!”

    Robbie, are you saying voters favor the Democratic position of having open borders?
    Am sure you saw the poll in post 1006, so now want to change the subject.

    Per Economist/YouGov: 46% of registered voters support Trump’s new policy of family detention versus only 19% for catch-and-release.
    (link: https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/rbrysksiud/econTabReport.pdf#page89) d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_upload…

    Shouldn’t the Republicans be actively opposing an open borders policy?

  1016. mnw says:

    Chi

    Pretty sure TX redistricting (& travel ban) are still to come. Also the teachers’ “union shop” case, which was argued last term, & for which the result is probably a forgone conclusion*– there were 5 votes against the mandatory union dues BEFORE Scalia died.

    *( foregone conclusion. You know, like the decision not to prosecute Hillary.)

  1017. Robbie says:

    Womp womp.

    Dylan Byers
    @DylanByers

    #Break: Corey Lewandowski has been dropped by his speakers bureau in the wake of “womp womp” remark …

  1018. Chicon says:

    1049 – not to some “Republicans” if that will put them on the same side as the dreaded Big Orange.

  1019. mnw says:

    sb “foregone”

    Spellcheck

  1020. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Hey Robbie. You know the Romney as a candidate in Utah has said that “I’m more of a hawk on immigration than Trump.” Got to be hurting him politically, as sure the Democrats are licking their chops to gain the Utah Senate seat this year.

    Oh Wait, the latest poll for the primary on Tuesday: Romney 65%; Kennedy 23%.
    For the general election:Romney(R)58%; Wilson(D)20%.

  1021. Chicon says:

    Mnw, you’re correct on the gerrymandering case – Abbott v. Texas is a racial gerrymandering case still to be decided.

    Here’s something on the remaining cases…

    http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/06/the-countdown-continues-with-10-cases-to-go/

  1022. Robbie says:

    SDC

    We are heading into an election where Republicans are almost certainly going to get their clocks cleaned, especially in the House. In order to have any chance of staving off an election disaster, the Republican Party needs to be unified.

    Pushing immigration does not unify the Republican Party. In fact, it splits the party. Or have you not noticed the way this issue has roiled the party since 2006? If it was a unifying issue as taxes are, this would have been dealt with in the GWB years.

    Why would you want to focus on an issue that divides your own party and unites your opposition right before an already tough election is looming? It’s stupid.

  1023. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    June 21, 2018 at 1:19 pm
    Hey Robbie. You know the Romney as a candidate in Utah has said that “I’m more of a hawk on immigration than Trump.” Got to be hurting him politically, as sure the Democrats are licking their chops to gain the Utah Senate seat this year.
    Oh Wait, the latest poll for the primary on Tuesday: Romney 65%; Kennedy 23%.
    For the general election:Romney(R)58%; Wilson(D)20%.

    – How did Romney’s self deportation immigration plan work out for him in the 2012 election against Obama?

  1024. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    June 21, 2018 at 12:55 pm
    Andrew McCarthy calls for an end to Fuhrer Mulehead
    https://t.co/F0zdLK69fU?amp=1

    – State-run TV (FoxNews) newest contributor takes a pro-Trump position. I’m shocked.

  1025. mnw says:

    Thx, Chi.

    If the rumors about who’s going to writing those opinions are true, I like our chances on TX & on travel ban.

    A note for the trolls: Is the speakers (sic) bureau disintigrating (sic)? If there were TWO speakers, would it be the speakerss bureau?

  1026. DW says:

    Cook has gone nuts and is all in on blue-wave. The generic ballot tightens, he does nothing. But any time it grows slightly in the Dem advantage, he pushes a bunch more Safe R seats into Likely R. Then the generic tightens, he doesn’t put them back. At this rate, by the end of the summer the Dems will be +4 or +5 in the generic ballot, but Cook will have 210 GOP seats in play.

  1027. Tgca says:

    1041

    I did not say internet taxes are fair, actually I don’t think any taxes are fair!

    I do agree that SCOTUS got it right this time because why should states not have the right to tax those shipping products into their state the so folks in their state can take possession or consume those products those products? At the end of the day, the use of the product is the same within the state and that is the transaction they should be taxing, and they should have the right to decide what is the most efficient way to ensure collection of those taxes.

    One thing I learned years ago while working in tax was that the complexities of tax often require specialized knowledge and understanding, that SCOTUS does not have. I always thought the 1992 decision would come back to bite some day and it did. I believe SCOTUS got it wrong in 1992 because they did not envision or understand it appropriately.

  1028. mnw says:

    Tg

    I just want the tax playing field to be level. Brick & mortar retailers got enuf trouble already.

    Good to see you up & posting.

  1029. NYCmike says:

    Before, Robbie was going with Trump job approval number,

    NOW, he is going with worries about an expanding map for Dems, and disunity among Republicans about…….get this……OPEN BORDERS.

    Please tell us…..which Republicans are FOR open borders?

    And, which Republicans are AGAINST enforcing current law?

  1030. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1057. “– How did Romney’s self deportation immigration plan work out for him in the 2012 election against Obama?”

    In 2016 Trump ran on an strong immigration plan, how did it work out for him? Oh, he got elected.

  1031. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Try NOT to include Seth Rich, pizzagate, previous elections, etc when answering my question.

    Let’s stick to the current situation, and who would disagree with Trump on open borders.

  1032. DW says:

    Some evidence of the bias of these forecasters. A NM_01 poll comes out showing the GOP candidate down only 3 points, but they don’t move it from Safe D. WV_03 poll comes out and they immediately make a move to drop the rating–which they probably should, but so should NM_01.

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    TX_31 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 180 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 181 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 182 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 183 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 184 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 185 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 186 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 187 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    WV_03* R | 188 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.2 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    CA_21 R | 189 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NY_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics)
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP) | 44/30 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 42/27 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (D Internal)
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 —
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  1033. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1056. “We are heading into an election where Republicans are almost certainly going to get their clocks cleaned, especially in the House.”

    After 2016 election prediction debacle, think you might consider not using terms like “almost certainly.”

  1034. DW says:

    senate update from Sabato in the Dem’s direction

    Paladin – 2018 Senate Dashboard
    ———————————————————–
    ST | Cnt | Cook |Gonz | Saba | NYT | Fox | CNN | RCP | Score — Latest Poll
    ———————————————————–
    NE | 46 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    MS | 47 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    TX | 48 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.4 — 50/39 (Quinnipiac)
    TN | 49 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 — 43/46 (Mason-Dixon)
    —-Democrats need ALL the below for control—-
    MO | 51 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 45/45 (Emerson)
    IN | 50 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 47/46 (Gravis)
    FL | 49 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 48/45 (Florida Chamber)
    WV | 48 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/50 (Monmouth)
    ND | 47 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 48/44 (Mason-Dixon)
    AZ | 46 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    NV | 45 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.2 — 40/39 (Nevada Ind)
    MT | 44 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 — 44/52 (Gravis)
    OH | 43 | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.5 — 34/51 (Quinnipiac)
    WI | 42 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -3 — 39/50 (Marquette)
    MN | 41 | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    PA | 40 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.2 — 27/44 (F&M)
    MI | 39 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.2 —
    NJ | 38 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -4.5 — 32/53 (Monmouth)
    VA | 37 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.1 — 33/44 (Roanoke)
    ME | 36 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —

  1035. Tina says:

    So Andrew McCarthy sucks, right?

    You do realize he was never trump and one of comedy’s friends, right?

    He came around slowly against this hoax.

    But muh Russia…

  1036. Tina says:

    Lord arsenal agrees

    Rs nearly certainly to lose.

    Jebots will be happy.

  1037. Tina says:

    June 21, 2018 at 1:38 pm
    Robbie,

    Try NOT to include Seth Rich, pizzagate, previous elections, etc when answering my question.

    Let’s stick to the current situation, and who would disagree with Trump on open borders.

    You forgot, maga, my attorney got arrested.

  1038. Tina says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/21/trump-calls-out-obama-for-inhumane-treatment-of-migrant-kids/

    Trump,slams obumbler for housing kids in cages and wrapping them in Reynolds foil.

  1039. Chicon says:

    1065 – a reasonable, logical discussion of the issues? With Robbie? NYC’s been hitting the bath salts. 🙂

  1040. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1009514731626000386

    Jake tapper highlights the abuses of kids sent here illegally under the obumbler.

  1041. DW says:

    Sometimes overlooked metric…

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/direction_of_country-902.html

    …lines are tightening. The more people who think we are headed the right direction, the more who may be inclined to vote that we stick with the leaders we got and the party in power.

  1042. CG says:

    Mitt Romney re-Tweeted Laura Bush’s statement calling the Trump policy “cruel” and “inhumane” and stated that we needed a more compassionate solution.

    And of course he is right.

  1043. Tina says:

    I wonder if obumbler used Reynolds wrap for the foiled blankets

  1044. Phil says:

    “comprehensive” immigration solution. Meaning exactly what?

  1045. Chicon says:

    Mitt is always right, unless he disagrees with JEB!

  1046. CG says:

    Jeb and Mitt have rarely disagreed, but each has been right from time to time when they have.

    For example, Mitt is right that the U.S. does not need a “Convention of States” which is a Mark Levin backed idea that Jeb Bush was spoken in favor of.

  1047. CG says:

    I think some people on the lunatic fringe might be confusing thermal Mylar blankets with the tin foil they place on their own heads.

  1048. Chicon says:

    This reminds me of Robbie’s avoidance of the same question – where was the outrage during the previous Administration?

    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2018/06/21/shock-cnn-confronts-sputtering-dem-lack-outrage-immigrant-children-obama-years/

  1049. Tina says:

    Mitt is and will be a huge downgrade compared to hatch

    The guy will say anything for a vote.

  1050. CG says:

    Facts are stubborn things.

    The previous Administration, for all its many faults, simply did not have a policy in which parents and children were separated at the border.

    Any matter involving unaccompanied minors crossing the border is completely different and irrelevant to the discussion of forced parent child separation at the border.

  1051. Tina says:

    Back to muh policy,

    An outright lie in light of Flores.

  1052. CG says:

    Orrin Hatch has certainly called the Trump policy on the border “unacceptable” and in his rhetoric on the matter has gone further than Romney.

    Hatch also recently delivered the most impassioned pro-LGBT statement ever given by a Republican so among those activists, Romney would be considered a downgrade.

  1053. Chicon says:

    And yet there are pictures of just the thing the “Republican” CG sez ain’t true. He’s only interested in truth, and facts.

  1054. Tina says:

    And there are liberal activists going to court to sue trump on the eo, as predicted here yesterday.

    But muh policy.

    Muh kids in cages

    Muh foil wrapped Yates.

  1055. Tina says:

    And that poll is devastating on Drats and jebots wanting catch and release, their ultimate need.

  1056. Phil says:

    Here’s the problem the left has. They want anyone who shows up on the border with a child to be able to come in and be released into the general population (catch and release). Of course the problem with that is those people are now in the country illegally and aren’t apt to show up for their scheduled hearing. That’s a problem but of course it’s not a problem to Democrats. It’s the intended result.

    They tried to sell this with the “you are separating families” emotional tug over the last three days. Trump said, ok, we will keep the families together but in detention. No catch and release.

    The left didn’t get what they want. Here’s the real problem for Democrats. The latest You Government/Economist poll showed only 19% favored catch and release. Only 17% of independents. When less than a fifth of voters buy into show up at the border with a kid free pass into the country and then get turned loose policy, you aren’t going to get anywhere electorally. Not the election winner Robbie thinks it is.

  1057. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    See Robbie has gone silence, and CG taken his place.

  1058. Tina says:

    The pictures are hoaxes.

    Jebot

  1059. Tina says:

    The only thing that splits the r party is if we go back to amnesty a la mute 43. That worked well in 2006 remember?

    Ds got to the right of the wobbly w.

  1060. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1086. “Hatch also recently delivered the most impassioned pro-LGBT statement ever given by a Republican so among those activists, Romney would be considered a downgrade.”

    I am from Utah, and also am a member of the LGBT community. Who the h— gave you the right to speak for my community?

  1061. Tina says:

    The obumbler had no policy of doing that.

    The pictures are hoaxes.

    The us forces did not engage Russian forces in Syria, wiping out a unit

    There is Russian collusion because Donnie met with a Russian plant sent by fusion and talked about adoption.

    All of this from the loon.

  1062. Phil says:

    Democrats thought they could use this family thing to sell catch and release. They certainly couldn’t come out and say that was their preferred course. Now the families will be together – detained together. The left has lost their cover…..and they’re pissed.

    Look for more unhinged behavior. Peter Fonda will have company….and the Trump reelection campaign couldn’t ask for a better way for the left to discredit itself.

  1063. Tina says:

    (link to article)

    WELLINGTON (Reuters) – The European Union is ready to engage with the United States to solve a trade row triggered by Washington’s decision to impose metal impose tariffs, E.U. Trade Commissioner Cecilia Malmstrom said on Thursday.

    This after canada appears to have surrendered

  1064. Messy says:

    almost…

  1065. Tina says:

    Mnw, Phil, others, I did not realize how close Minnesota was in 2016. 1.5 points?

    Man and no coukd easily flip next time.

  1066. Messy says:

    Eleven hundred!

  1067. Messy says:

    TINA!!!! (jeez!)

  1068. Messy says:

    The House just defeated the Conservative immigration bill. The pseudo-compromise is up next.

  1069. CG says:

    The pictures from the Obama Admin are of the unaccompanied minors. It was heavily covered at the time.

    None of those children had parents with them that were taken away.

    Two completely different episodes with two completely different set of facts.

    The old “bait and switch” technique doesn’t hold up.

  1070. Chicon says:

    1104 – link?

  1071. CG says:

    1095. Awfully touchy.

    I happen to prefer Romney to Hatch and believe that he is significantly more conservative. (That may not have been the case in 1994) I also do not suggest Hatch is some liberal.

    The concept though that Romney is suddenly some RINO and Hatch is a right-wing champion is a dumb one.

  1072. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1097. “Democrats thought they could use this family thing to sell catch and release. They certainly couldn’t come out and say that was their preferred course. Now the families will be together – detained together. The left has lost their cover…..and they’re pissed.”

    Trump has been able to turn the tables, and call the Democrats bluff. Now what do the Democrats do? They have a powerful constituency that wants open borders, but it does not have the support of the voters. Be interesting to see how they respond.

  1073. DW says:

    The picture of the caged children of the Obama administration must have been faked at the same studio that faked the moon landings.

  1074. CG says:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/immigration-border-crisis/fact-check-did-obama-administration-separate-families-n884856

    Again, the sad photos being posted here, including of children in thermal Mylar “space” blankets (not tin foil) during the Obama Admin are of the children who were sent across the border and miraculously survived *without* parents. They had no parents with them to separate them from.

    Hence, completely two different matters. Trump acloytes are trying the old okey-doke to confuse and manipulate people.

    Any reasonable criticism from how the Obama Admin handled those kids, and there certainly should have been criticism is a completely moot point as it relates to children who actually had parents physically with them at the border.

  1075. Chicon says:

    I guess CNN missed CG’s earlier post. Ms. Baldwin put the hammer on Sen. Baldwin, asking where was the outrage when BHO did it? The good Senator did not mention the distinction made by CG. Why?

    BTW, CG, you and your comrades should be careful when using a blunt instrument like pictures of kids in cages. You never know which when it’ll hurt your own team.

  1076. Phil says:

    I think San Diego put his finger on the problem the left has. They badly want open borders. The electorate isn’t going to go for that no matter how Democrats and their media friends try to muddy the waters.

  1077. CG says:

    Again,

    Any discussion of how the Obama Admin handled the influx of unaccompanied minors is and should be completely distinct from the way the Trump Admin decided to handle intact families.

    You guys know what you are doing and you know it doesn’t hold up factually. Considered the backlash against the Trump Admin for this in both parties, no wonder you want to confuse things.

    And no wonder Trump backed down yesterday and backed down even further today in saying that parents will no longer be prosecuted.

  1078. DW says:

    Ironic that for decades the Democrat Party has been working day and night to destroy the American family unit suddenly has come to Jesus and wants Mexican families to stay together.

    They do realize that when Americans commit crimes and go to jail, the kids are separated from the felon parents and don’t go to jail with them.

    Illegals commit crime by coming here illegally, and so a brief separation is less than what the average felon family has.

  1079. Phil says:

    Democrats have lost their family together cover. Should they now just go all in with catch and release for entire families? Kampala Harris has….and I love it?

  1080. CG says:

    If you think the Trump Admin policy (since scuttled) was right, then just be intellectually honest and say so.

    It is factually incorrect though to suggest this was happening under Obama or Bush and even if it were somehow true, its a weak excuse to say “it’s alright because Presidents we don’t like did the same thing.”

    What this tells me is that Trump fans know the policy was both pretty immoral and pretty bad politically so you all turned into Johnnie Cochran.

  1081. Phil says:

    Families are now united. The children are saved….and yet the left is not happy today. Why not? I’ve explained why not. Now is the time for Democrats to just be honest and go all in on open borders. Quit pussy footing around….but of course they just don’t have the backing of the electorate to be able to do that so the game continues At least Kamala is now all in on catch and release. Of course she’s going all in on it to get the leftist activists support for her 2020 run….still.

  1082. CG says:

    The children that have already been taken away from their parents are not united again with them. They should be.

    I am not for open borders. I am not for catch and release. I do not support Kamala Harris. I simply presented facts and expressed why an honest accounting of the situation is necessary.

    Many other conservatives, Republicans, religious leaders, Pro-Life leaders have spoken about how horrible the now scuttled Trump policy was.

    It’s good that it was scuttled. The problem remains complex and with no easy answers. But it is still important to get those innocent children back with their parents so they can be an intact family.

  1083. dblaikie says:

    I hope this poll isn’t bogus. Of course I don’t trust any poll so it could be. However, Rasmussen, has a poll out that says a majority of likely voters (54%) blame the parents and not the Trump Administration for the crisis at the border. If this poll is accurate, the trolls need to crawl back into their holes and hide. Here is the link:
    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/21/rasmussen-parents-to-blame-border-crisis/?utm_medium=push&utm_source=daily_caller&utm_campaign=push

  1084. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Rasmussen poll reflects what would be expected from other polls showing Americans do not support “catch and release” and open borders.

    The Democrats have painted themselves into a corner, and over the long-term have damaged themselves.

    “According to a new Rasmussen poll, a majority of Americans blame illegal immigrant parents for the child crisis on the border over the U.S. government.
    The media has put a hyper focus on the separation of families at the border over the last several weeks, leading President Donald Trump to sign an executive order ending the separation. Current U.S. law does not allow families to be detained together if the parents are referred for prosecution for illegal border crossing.
    However, the Rasmussen poll shows that Americans don’t blame the Trump administration for the approximately 2,000 children who have been separated from their parents.
    54 percent of likely voters polled by Rasmussen said that they think the parents are more to blame for breaking the law.
    Only 35 percent said the government is more to blame for the crisis.
    Further, 54 percent of voting Americans agree with President Trump’s assertion that “The United States will not be a migrant camp. And it will not be a refugee-holding facility — it won’t be.”

  1085. CG says:

    “As the son of a Polish holocaust survivor, the images and sounds of this family separation policy is heart wrenching. “Children should never be used as bargaining chips.”
    – Michael Cohen

    I guess you guys are ok with locking him up now.

  1086. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    In 2014, Pelosi was demanded children’s due process rights be protected to cross into the U.S. without their parents. Now she is upset children are being separated from their parents temporarily.

    “Appearing in the Capitol with the presidents of Honduras and Guatemala, the minority leader suggested Democrats wouldn’t accept any border-assistance bill that rolls back the mandatory due process rights currently afforded those children.

    “We are committed to addressing their humanitarian needs; we are committed to due process for them,” Pelosi said during a briefing. “In order for that to happen, we must pass the president’s request.”
    With more than 57,000 unaccompanied children crossing the border since October, Congress is wrestling with a legislative response that will speed the processing of those kids while ensuring they aren’t sent back into harm’s way.”

  1087. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1120. Looks like Pelosi had no problem using children as bargaining chips in 2014.

  1088. Phil says:

    1118

    I think the left is on the verge of badly overplaying their hand on illegal immigration if they have not already. The problem is they mostly live in a bubble.- California, NY and the rest of the northeast. Open borders plays well in the urban liberal centers and those people remain disconnected to the rest of America. 2016 should have been a wake up call….but it wasn’t. They continue to stay in their own little circle of group think. The Rasmussen poll cited, the You Govt poll. They need to be careful…and they aren’t doing so.

  1089. Phil says:

    More Peter Fonda, more Samantha Bee, more De Niro, more Hogg

    Please.

  1090. CG says:

    1122. Shame on all of them.

  1091. Tina says:

    Blame the parents and the corrupt Mexican gubment and the big business this has become, lots of dinero at stake.

  1092. Tina says:

    Mullah Merkel likes her migrant camp.

  1093. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1122. “Shame on all of them.”

    It is awful. There is only one solution for any self-respecting potential illegal immigrant. Don’t come here.

  1094. CG says:

    Trump caved on this before he saw the Rasmussen Poll.

    Should he revert back now to the policy to the policy he said he would no longer implement because of the Rasmussen Poll? As his staunch supporters, what say you people? What could go wrong?

  1095. dblaikie says:

    Just to remind all you fellow posters. It was about 4 months ago that I predicted red voter rage which is going to result in a red rage. Phil, you are absolutely right and the best thing is those folks think most people listen to them and so they can’t shut up. Probably at about mid October the truth will begin to dawn on them. Should be fun TV.

  1096. dblaikie says:

    1129 Trump never really caved. Kids now get to spend detention with their parents. The dems wanted them to be free without consequence.

  1097. CG says:

    Illegal immigrants should not come here. We can agree. Children who are brought here have no say on the matter.

    The welfare of the child should come first, beyond all else, and ripping them away from their parents is not in their best interest.

    So let’s have the legislative solution similar to what Ted Cruz has proposed (and which Trump dismissed a couple days ago) Let’s have an extradited process to deal with these families. If they are to be deported, as many will have to be, they should be deported as an intact family.

  1098. dblaikie says:

    1130 result in a red wave.

  1099. CG says:

    Then he caved to all the Republicans who said he had it in his power to stop the policy immediately.

    I don’t care who he caved to, but he did cave.

    I think they might have seen some polls, Rasmussen aside.

  1100. CG says:

    I have asked Democrats to specify what would constitute a “blue wave” so now I want to ask the people here who think a “red wave” will happen, what will constitute a red wave?

    Please be specific. Ballpark the number of House and Senate gains that will occur. I assume you are saying the party will actually gain seats in the House, under such a “wave”, right?

  1101. Tina says:

    Last week, Cohen is a crook. Muh Russia, blah, blah blah.

    This week he is a Drats bff.

  1102. CG says:

    Well, clearly Cohen has “flipped.” Not exactly a surprise.

  1103. Chicon says:

    1134 – separating them from their parents is FAR worse than torture. Because evil Trump…..

  1104. CG says:

    1140. Low energy and weak

  1105. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “So let’s have the legislative solution similar to what Ted Cruz has proposed (and which Trump dismissed a couple days ago) Let’s have an extradited process to deal with these families. If they are to be deported, as many will have to be, they should be deported as an intact family.”

    Congress was unable to act, so Trump did it by executive order. If you want to refer to it as him “caving”, go ahead. The Democrats were not able to come forward with a legitimate policy alternative, because they know “open borders” was not acceptable to the American people.

  1106. Chicon says:

    CG never strays far from JEB!-hurt

  1107. Bitterlaw says:

    Off to Rome. GFY.

  1108. Chicon says:

    Bitter, have fun, if you have that capacity. And watch out for the pickpockets. Seriously, they’ve got skillz.

  1109. CG says:

    As I have said, whatever facts are available to use to criticize the situation with how the Obama Admin handled the influx of unaccompanied minors a few years back has absolutely no relevance to what the Trump Admin was doing this month to minors who had parents by their side.

    But generally speaking, if Obama was so bad, (and I think he was a horrible President in general) why would it make you guys feel good for your guy to do what he did and cite that as justification.

    Shouldn’t he strive to be better?

  1110. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t care who he caved to, but he did cave.”

    -Whatever.

    It doesn’t matter if he caved, or that ‘CG” is the most moral person on this planet. Millions of people may be alive years from now due to the fact that Trump was elected over Hillary, but that will not change his mind whatsovever.

    Either way, after Trump “caved”, if you saw his tweet with the video, he immediately transformed this into an issue which Republicans can win on.

    Are you (THE VOTER) FOR OPEN BORDERS, or for the enforcement of our immigration laws??

  1111. NYCmike says:

    “CG” is worried about facts, as if the media and/or the Democrats are worried about facts.

    Kinda like JEB!2016 would have been a better President than Trump……….BUT, we won’t get to make that comparison, will we?

  1112. DW says:

    I saw nothing wrong with the Trump policy. Every time a parent goes to prison in the USA the children are separated from the parent. Illegals who cross illegally, have done something illegal. That means it is against the law. You know, a lawbreaker. It should surprise no one that lawbreakers have to be detained and if they involved their innocent kids in their crime, then the state has to provide some sort of care unless extended relatives can take temporary custody. This is nothing new and is part of law enforcement.

  1113. NYCmike says:

    Fact is this: those kids are better off than they were before. It is NOT IMMORAL to separate them from their parents.

    It doesn’t look nice on camera……that does NOT make it immoral.

  1114. NYCmike says:

    “CG” has turned snowflake, just like Author.

    What is it with these young kids?

  1115. NYCmike says:

    If that CFPB ruling stands……that is one more YUGE item to come out of Trump defeating Hillary.

    BUT, of course, “CG” will find NOTHING immoral about a government entity which answers to nobody except the individual who controls it……..nothing could ever go wrong with such an institution. //

  1116. DW says:

    Anyone even remotely knowledgeable about crime, law enforcement, and working with criminals knows that its a messy business. Yes, it would be much easier and less messy if only people with no children committed crimes. But that’s not the real world.

  1117. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1144. “Off to Rome.”

    Have a fabulous trip, Bitter. The city is beautiful and food amazing. Agree on watching out for pick-pockets & shysters. Would not buy any junk at a street market.

  1118. CG says:

    You guys are struggling today.

  1119. NYCmike says:

    “Are you (THE VOTER) FOR OPEN BORDERS, or for the enforcement of our immigration laws??”

    -Odd that neither “CG” or Robbie will answer this question……

  1120. NYCmike says:

    “Agree on watching out for pick-pockets & shysters.”

    -Heh.

    Bitterlaw……looking out for shysters…….

  1121. NYCmike says:

    “You guys are struggling today.”

    -You are correct.

    With the rally last night in MN, I need to re-check my numbers about the Senate.

  1122. CG says:

    I answered the question upthread. Specifically said I was against open borders.

    I also believe , as do many other conservatives, that the now scuttled Trump policy was immoral.

    There needed to be a more compassionate solution. Hopefully, things will now move in that direction and that the children who have been taken from their parents are reunited.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion and mine is that anyone who thinks this was the appropriate policy for these particular circumstances is a “deplorable.”

  1123. janz says:

    I’m finding so much news misinformation and/or distortion of events and policies to be dispiriting. However, this powerline first-person analysis of the Duluth rally was cause to be more encouraged about the state of mind of voters not protesting etc.

    In fact the demographics described of people at this rally were surprising to me — in a positive way.

    “At least 25 percent of the audience was under the age of 30, and around 40 percent were women. The senior citizen percentage was less than 10 percent — the lowest I’ve ever seen at a Republican event. Other than the hundred or so party leaders, this was a vastly different crowd from the Minnesota Republican Convention that I attended in Duluth three weeks ago. None of the attendees I spoke with in the concession line at the rally were politically active (other than voting) and none were born-and-bred Republicans.”

  1124. DW says:

    “the now scuttled Trump policy was immoral”

    is it immoral when parents of four young children are separated from them because the parents are arrested for a crime and spend several days in the slammer waiting for a hearing?

  1125. CG says:

    I also believe someone has to be pretty defensive and immature to assume my position on matters related to CPFB with my opinion on the now scuttled Trump children used as pawns policy.

    One thing has nothing to do with the other. How dumb does someone want to look to combine them?

    For the record, I tend to believe the creation of the CFPB created all sorts of Constitutional problems.

  1126. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The ACLU, which used to fiercely defend First Amendment rights, now is so-so about it:

    “The American Civil Liberties Union will weigh its interest in protecting the First Amendment against its other commitments to social justice, racial equality, and women’s rights, given the possibility that offensive speech might undermine ACLU goals.

    “Our defense of speech may have a greater or lesser harmful impact on the equality and justice work to which we are also committed,” wrote ACLU staffers in a confidential memo obtained by former board member Wendy Kaminer.

    It’s hard to see this as anything other than a cowardly retreat from a full-throated defense of the First Amendment. Moving forward, when deciding whether to take a free speech case, the organization will consider “factors such as the (present and historical) context of the proposed speech; the potential effect on marginalized communities; the extent to which the speech may assist in advancing the goals of white supremacists or others whose views are contrary to our values; and the structural and power inequalities in the community in which the speech will occur.”

  1127. lisab says:

    if the choice is

    a.) separate the children from their parents

    or

    b.) allow the parents to take their children into the usa (and go on welfare)

    which do you choose?

    because that is the choice

  1128. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1156. “Are you (THE VOTER) FOR OPEN BORDERS, or for the enforcement of our immigration laws??”

    -Odd that neither “CG” or Robbie will answer this question……”

    CG answered it, and after shift change Robbie will answer it.

  1129. CG says:

    1161. major differences

    A parent who is arrested knows where their child is (typically at home with another relative) and people know where the parent is.

    There is a structured system where people typically make bail and are free pending a trial. There is due process there and there was not due process in Trump’s policy.

  1130. Tina says:

    I am so excited that Cohen has flipped. We can get trump finally.

    Jebot

  1131. Tina says:

    It is immoral that illegals trek across here expecting gubment handouts, while the corrupt Mexican gubment tells us to take in more,

    Look at president fox. He really made mute 43 bow down to his fat arse.

  1132. Tina says:

    And it will get worse because the gubment will change to a socialist,

    We need to get the wall built because the socialists love the criminal cartels.

    Nafta is in jeopardy. Even if we stay in, no way are businesses going to stay in Mexico with the socialists seizing everything and the drug cartels acting as their personal body guards.

  1133. NYCmike says:

    “There needed to be a more compassionate solution.”

    -Have you ever read the Old Testament of your G-D?

    Judgment is HARD, not soft.

  1134. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Dossier author visited the department of leftist state.

    Oh, I am sure that he was just there to use the toilet.

  1135. CG says:

    It might be for you.

    I am concerned about the civic responsibility of America and how we deal with the well-being of children.

    Is my G-d different than your G-d, NYC? You seem to be very mockful of my religion. If you are an atheist, that is your right, but you should realize how you come across.

  1136. janz says:

    “I also believe, as do many other conservatives, that the now scuttled Trump policy was immoral.”

    What’s immoral is how dishonest the media and others are in portraying the events at the border. Photo shopped images and photos taken of detention camps in 2014 (Obama’s era) are being mixed with the most negative ones the media can find in the current age. There is no media scrutiny of the improvements made between now and prior border detentions. There is little breakdown as to ages and sex of the children being detained either — most being teens and males, not little kids. Overall, the media, the “elites”, those who live on Trump hate are creating a bogused, biased narrative to augment their distaste for anything Trump does or says.

    In fact, there’s a Branco political cartoon which sums up the incredibly dangerous political climate being exercised by Trump foes depicting a donkey (dem symbol) praying:

    ” Oh God,
    (if you even exist)
    Please destroy America
    so that it makes
    Trump look bad.”

    This doesn’t seem too far from the truthful thoughts and prayers of some on this blog and in the country at large.

  1137. Tina says:

    Compassionate conservatism. Aka drat light worked so we’ll.

  1138. CG says:

    Is there one religious leader of any persuasion in America who has not said the Trump policy had major flaws?

    Franklin Graham, who has defended Trump to the hilt on everything else, said it was immoral and needed to be changed.

  1139. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1160. “At least 25 percent of the audience was under the age of 30, and around 40 percent were women. The senior citizen percentage was less than 10 percent — the lowest I’ve ever seen at a Republican event. Other than the hundred or so party leaders, this was a vastly different crowd from the Minnesota Republican Convention that I attended in Duluth three weeks ago. None of the attendees I spoke with in the concession line at the rally were politically active (other than voting) and none were born-and-bred Republicans.”

    At his rallies Trump is being a showman — he enjoys being outrageous and stirring up the crowd. In past generations, that is what politicians did at county fairs.

    Watched the Duluth rally; Trump commented how “everyone enjoys a Trump rally.” Noticed how young a lot of the crowd was. He is up to 53 million followers on his Twitter account. People like it when he stirs the pigeons.

  1140. DW says:

    1166 – obviously you have little knowledge of law enforcement and how these things play out.

    Typically an arrest is made, the parents are hauled away, an officer stays behind until child protective services officials make arrangement for care. Often things are messy, lacking knowledge as to the whereabouts of the kids of the parents and the parents of the kids.

    Sometimes hearings can take days or weeks. I was in a courtroom a month ago and they brought in a guy in handcuffs who had been arrested three weeks earlier and had just been sitting there in jail waiting for a hearing.

    The ‘structured system’ you speak of makes it sound so neat and tidy when often it is not and varies greatly depending on state and local laws, and you said there was no due process in the Trump policy when in fact there was.

    Read this article: https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/illegal-immigration-enforcement-separating-kids-at-border/

    Here is the key two paragraphs from link above:

    “The criminal proceedings are exceptionally short, assuming there is no aggravating factor such as a prior illegal entity or another crime. The migrants generally plead guilty, and they are then sentenced to time served, typically all in the same day, although practices vary along the border. After this, they are returned to the custody of ICE.
    If the adult then wants to go home, in keeping with the expedited order of removal that is issued as a matter of course, it’s relatively simple. The adult should be reunited quickly with his or her child, and the family returned home as a unit. In this scenario, there’s only a very brief separation.”

    So yes, the Trump policy had due process.

  1141. CG says:

    Whether one thing is immoral or not has absolutely no relevance to if something else is immoral.

    You guys are really struggling to defend Trump on this, which is why facts are ignored and irrelevancies are thrown about.

    It’s completely the strategy used by Johnnie Cocrhan to get a jury to acquit O.J. Simpson of murder.

  1142. CG says:

    If anyone actually thinks this Trump policy was a good one, then naturally you ought to be disappointed he stopped it so quickly under pressure.

    But among his die-hards, if he starts something it is always right and if he stops something he is always right. No critical thinking needed.

  1143. Tina says:

    I noticed it too at the Duluth rally,mothe very large crowd was young.

    This is good development.

    Some were interviewed mentioning the good jobs they now have.

    In another development, an article mentions that the yute are finally moving out of mommas basement They are buying their own homes.

  1144. lisab says:

    Is there one religious leader of any persuasion in America who has not said the Trump policy had major flaws?
    ——————————-

    given how many usa citizens have lost children due to illegal aliens

    i totally support not allowing them into the usa

    if the only legal option is to separate them or let them go into the usa, i support separation

    i don’t want any more american citizens killed by aliens

  1145. Tina says:

    dministration is halting for now — the conservative bill allows children to be detained with their parents in Department of Homeland Security custody for longer than 20 days by giving DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen “discretion” to do so. The compromise bill goes a step further, by allowing children to be detained with their parents, and mandating that DHS house families who are going through criminal proceedings for first-time border crossings rather than turn them over to the Justice Department, as is current policy, CBS News’ Rebecca Kaplan reports. The compromise bill would also provide funding for detention centers.

    This is from cbs. So, it will take the congress to fix the law.

  1146. janz says:

    CG you are completely off base on the majority of your comments.

    In the meantime, the administration continues to make more accommodations for an ever expanding entry level of illegal immigrants. Open borders is only a hair away from happening because of the skewed mind sets of people like CG, who are dwelling more on Trump dislike than on what is happening because of those in constant protest over him.

    “Washington – The Department of Health and Human Services on Thursday
    asked the Pentagon to make preparations to house as many as 20,000
    unaccompanied migrant children on American military bases,
    a United States official said.”

  1147. lisab says:

    the dems have already said they don’t want family detention centers … they just want open borders

  1148. Tina says:

    Trumps eo will run afoul of Flores.

    He, any President, cannot unilaterally change it.

    Schumah et al will need to get involved and fix it.

    They are now trapped because it is not about muh kids.

    If it were, Schumah would have tried a legislative fix.

    But now he is trapped,

    20 days and bush bye.

  1149. DW says:

    Trump stopped his policy because he probably felt it was politically wise to do so given the societal lynch mob that had formed, who were driven by emotion instead of facts. He also probably didn’t think it a bid deal either way.

    But all this emotional reaction is silly. Arrested parents are separated from kids EVERY DAY in America.

    The problem here is many do not consider illegals crossing over as criminals when in fact they are.

  1150. CG says:

    I will take credit for the fact that my time here this afternoon has dispelled the myth that Obama or Bush had the same child separation policy. You all are properly informed (if you are not already) that the photos from the Obama years were of unaccompanied kids without parents (and there were a lot more of them)

    So maybe disagreements can at least be structured more on facts now. And I didn’t really have to call anyone any names to get those facts across. (I think Robbie enjoys the name calling back and forth though)

  1151. Tina says:

    We need to keep the pedo criminal and child together.

  1152. CG says:

    1183. but I notice you won’t say why.

    That’s ok though janz. During the last campaign you said that I (and others) would have been against the Founding Fathers and that we were in league with the despots who wanted to harm America.

    Then when forced to engage with me, you admitted it was my right as an American to not vote for Donald Trump.

  1153. CG says:

    Nobody has answered yet as to my question as to what are the parameters that would define a “red wave.”

  1154. CG says:

    The only legal option is not to separate families or let everyone in the U.S.

    Ramp up the process at the border and humanely deport families together.

  1155. lisab says:

    the prior administrations had the far worse policies known as catch and release

  1156. CG says:

    Theoretically, why is it a good thing for Trump to do the same bad things you say Obama did.

    It’s just a weird, non-critical, cultish like response.

  1157. Tina says:

    The only pictures I see are

    2014 kid in cage

    Kids wrapped in tin foil.

    Kids stripped naked

    A picture of a recent protest putting a crying baby behind a make shift cage in front of a media person, this person should have been arrested for child abuse

  1158. DW says:

    The Trump policy did humanely deport families together, read link in 1177

  1159. lisab says:

    Ramp up the process at the border and humanely deport families together.
    ————

    as you well know the president cannot unilaterally change the law

    so unless the dems decide to support a change to the laws

    the only choice is to separate after 20 days

    or release into the usa

  1160. Mr.Vito says:

    Sometimes it’s good to just review the facts without all the emotion.

    Obama detained the children with their mothers, and a federal judge ruled near the end of his term that it was a violation of the Flores ruling even though Flores was for unaccompanied children. She said the children were kept in “deplorable conditions” by the Obama administration.

    The Obama administration had argued that it was a deterrent for families crossing the border. The judge said that mothers and children should be released ASAP after determination of flight risk and safety.

    This administration was basically treating the children as they would unaccompanied children, making sure that the standards for children in Flores were met. The Obama administration admitted that they also considered this, but did not like the idea of separating the children.

    Trumps EO is now likely running afoul of the court ruling.

  1161. CG says:

    The Trump policy separated parents from children which had never been done before. No wonder so many conservative Republicans in Congress called on Trump to stop it and forced him to do so.

    Thankfully, there is only one person here who actually buys the “tin foil” talking point.

  1162. DW says:

    I will take credit for the fact that my time here this afternoon has dispelled the myth that only the children of criminal illegals are separated from arrested parents.

    This separation happens to citizen parents and children every day in America.

  1163. CG says:

    Yes, Congress needs to do something, visa vis the executive orders, court rulings, etc. There are no easy answers.

    Trump should be willing to sign something to remedy this, that both keeps families together and secures the border. Maybe he will, but he has sure given some mixed messages.

    Three days ago, he downright dismissed Cruz’s proposal and just said all we needed to do was “be tough.”

    Then, he caved.

  1164. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    RIP Charles Krauthammer. One of the best!!!!
    He will be missed!

  1165. Mr.Vito says:

    Was it immoral for Obama to keep children in deplorable conditions with their mothers as a deterrent?

    Was it immoral for Trump to separate the children from their mothers and keep them in better conditions as a deterrent?

    On the other hand, maybe everyone should just knock the rhetoric down a notch…

  1166. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1200. Nonsense, CG. As Nancy Pelosi said, what Trump did accomplished nothing. The families are still detained and not being allowed due process. Senator Rubio called out what this means:

    Marco Rubio
    @marcorubio
    “The ink isn’t even dry on the new executive order ending separation policy & some Democrats already arguing that keeping families together isn’t enough. Now they want them & their parents released after unlawful entry knowing full well that high % will never appear for hearing.”

  1167. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    CG, this is all about having open borders. Admit it.

  1168. Robbie says:

    Charles Krauthammer was the best.

  1169. NYCmike says:

    “I am concerned about the civic responsibility of America and how we deal with the well-being of children.”

    -Laughable.

    If that is the case, you would have LONG AGO admitted that the fact Trump was elected instead of Hillary was a huge boost for civic responsibility, and especially how we deal with children.

    You can look at abortion policy, you can look at the number of jobs created, so that kids have their parents feeding them, instead of relying on hand-outs……BUT NO, keep up the sanctimony, it makes YOU FEEL BETTER.

  1170. NYCmike says:

    RIP to Charles Krauthammer. (Good for Robbie on passing that along.)

  1171. NYCmike says:

    “CG, this is all about having open borders. Admit it.”

    -He won’t.

    He is still stuck on Trump “shooting” someone on 5th Avenue.

  1172. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    June 21, 2018 at 6:21 pm
    CG, this is all about having open borders. Admit it.

    – This why the Republican Party continues to tear itself apart over immigration.

    Anything that doesn’t meet every demand of the populist right is deemed open borders.

  1173. NYCmike says:

    After all of the arguing, and posturing, DEATH awaits us all.

    Godspeed.

  1174. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 21, 2018 at 6:29 pm
    “CG, this is all about having open borders. Admit it.”
    -He won’t.
    He is still stuck on Trump “shooting” someone on 5th Avenue.

    – Meanwhile Trump could shoot you and then crap into the open wound and you’d still support him.

  1175. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Donald J. Trump? @realDonaldTrump
    Democrats want open Borders, where anyone can come into our Country, and stay. This is Nancy Pelosi’s dream. It won’t happen!

    Donald J. Trump? @realDonaldTrump
    My Administration is acting swiftly to address the illegal immigration crisis on the Southern Border. Loopholes in our immigration laws all supported by extremist open border Democrats…and that’s what they are – they’re extremist open border Democrats….

    CG, Trump is correct. Admit it.

  1176. NYCmike says:

    “Anything that doesn’t meet every demand of the populist right is deemed open borders.”

    -Again, laughable.

    Republicans NEED to make the Democrats make a concession somewhere.

    The “populist right” has watched Republicans give up something right at the start of any negotiation concerning immigration, with nothing in return from Democrats. They believe there is a better way to get there.

    The main problem is the “mainstream right” is NOT HONEST about the laws they want changed, and try to have it both ways, looking tough for the electorate, while grabbing their ankles for the Democrats/Chamber of Commerce/Fortune 500.

  1177. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1209 “Anything that doesn’t meet every demand of the populist right is deemed open borders.”

    See shift change has taken place and Robbie is back.

    Robbie, are you accusing Marco Robbie of being a tool of the “populist right.”

  1178. NYCmike says:

    “– Meanwhile Trump could shoot you and then crap into the open wound and you’d still support him.”

    -Heh………and this guy complains about Trump being crude.

    AND, this same guy speaks about his STRONG CATHOLIC BELIEFS!

    What a display! Pope Francis would be proud!

  1179. NYCmike says:

    “Robbie, are you accusing Marco Robbie of being a tool of the “populist right.””

    -SanDiego,

    He will ignore Rubio’s tweet…….doesn’t fit the narrative he was briefed on!

  1180. NYCmike says:

    ““– Meanwhile Trump could shoot you and then crap into the open wound and you’d still support him.””

    -At the least, we KNOW that Trump’s crap doesn’t smell, so I got that going for me!

  1181. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Pete the cheat loses his security clearance.
    La few more steps to go before he is axed.

  1182. Tina says:

    I love open borders.

    Jebot

  1183. Tina says:

    The house rino immigration bill is pulled.

  1184. SanDiegoCitizen says: