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Election Day Thread- Maryland

It is election night here in my home state of Maryland. The biggest item to come out of tonight is who will take on Larry Hogan in November for Governor. Polls close at 8pm.

Posted by Dave at 3:00 pm
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1,887 Responses to “Election Day Thread- Maryland”

  1. jason says:

    For the AFL-CIO conservatives, the benefits of economic protectionism and isolationism.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/25/trumps-tariffs-on-auto-imports-will-hurt-entire-car-industry-moodys.html

  2. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Angry protesters in Iran’s capital held a third day of demonstrations on Tuesday over the country’s anemic economy as President Hassan Rouhani told the nation that it faces an “economic war” with the United States following America’s pullout from the nuclear deal.
    While online videos showed demonstrators again confronting police on Tehran’s streets and alleyways, the protests looked far smaller than those on Monday, when security forces fired tear gas on crowds in front of parliament.
    Earlier on Monday, demonstrators forced the temporary closure of Tehran’s Grand Bazaar and on Sunday, protests forced two major shopping centers for mobile phones and electronics to close in Tehran.”

    On May 8th, a little over a month ago, the Guardian predicted Trump’s ending of the Iran deal would cause the population to rally around the hardliners.

    “Inside Iran, President Rouhani’s initial reaction was to translate Iranian anger and disappointment into nationalism. He immediately responded by summoning the “Iranian nation … to be more united and resolved.”
    But Trump has handed a unique opportunity to hardline political elites to build on Iranian frustration. Not only can the hardliners use the breakdown of the deal to establish unity among the divided elites, but they can also build bridges with the Iranian population after protests in January. The knock-on effects of conservative unity could even lead to a victory for a hardline candidate in the 2020 parliamentary elections and the 2021 presidential poll.”

  3. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1. Jason do you think that free trade actually existed prior to Trump’s tariffs? The U.S. was being exploited by other countries who through tariffs and other means prevented U.S. goods from being sold in their countries. The best possible scenario would be free trade, but it did not exist. Trump by imposing tariffs may force the negotiations that may actually result in real free trade.

  4. jason says:

    Despite all the red herrings by the AFL-CIO conservatives, the REAL reason HD needs to shift production is to protect 40,000 motorcycle sales in Europe.

    “Harley-Davidson Inc. sold almost 40,000 motorcycles in the EU last year, its second-largest market after the United States, according to the company. The EU sales make up almost 16.4 percent of Harley-Davidson’s worldwide sales. In the U.S., Harley-Davidson sold 147,972 motorcycles last year, according to company data.

    “Increasing international production to alleviate the EU tariff burden is not the company’s preference, but represents the only sustainable option to make its motorcycles accessible to customers in the EU and maintain a viable business in Europe,” the company said in its prepared remarks.

    Harley-Davidson said it will not raise its prices to avert “an immediate and lasting detrimental impact” on sales in Europe. It will instead absorb a significant amount of the cost in the near term. It anticipates the cost for the rest of the year to be approximately $30 million to $45 million.”

  5. Chicon says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    June 26, 2018 at 3:27 pm
    1998. “building bikes in the us and exporting them does not give us the same benefits as local production because of tarriff barriers” hd spokesman may, 2017?

    But, but..I thought there was already free trade, and the U.S. tariffs were preventing it? You mean the rest of the world already had imposed tariffs on U.S. goods. I thought free trade was a two-way street?

    Chicon says:
    June 26, 2018 at 3:34 pm
    2007 – alas, to many here it is not. Unilateral disarmament for everyone! Apparently, telling everyone else that we’ll never raise tariffs in response to them raising tariffs has resulted in high tariffs placed against the US. Who would have expected that?

  6. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “It is true that some American companies have expressed concern about how new tariffs may affect their business going forward. It is also true that Harley-Davidson will soon be closing a plant in Kansas City, Missouri.

    However, these items are not directly related. In fact, Harley has planned on consolidating production at the Kansas City plant since 2015, before Trump was even in office; when the company made the announcement, it said that it was due to slowing motorcycle sales:

    Harley-Davidson’s sales fell sharply in 2017 and the company will move ahead with a plan to consolidate manufacturing operations, including the closure of its Kansas City, Mo. plant.

    The world’s largest maker of heavyweight motorcycles has struggled to reverse a four-year sales slide, with growth overseas somewhat helping offset a decline in the U.S. bike market.

    Additionally, Harley-Davidson announced in 2017 that it would be opening a manufacturing plant in Thailand. However, Harley said at the time that the decision was made to better serve the burgeoning market in southeast Asia, and that the decision would not affect manufacturing in the United States”

    It appears the closure of the Harley-Davidson plant was already in the works.

  7. NYCmike says:

    I believe that Mr. Dave Wissing, who to my astonishment, has another job besides running this blog, is in line for great blessings to ring down upon him for bestowing us with a new thread.

    (bestowing? – is that a word?)

  8. lisab says:

    #1 the people who work at cnbc only buy mercedes and bwm so of course they are upset

  9. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 26, 2018 at 3:17 pm
    Any chance Mitt is going to challenge Trump in the 2020 primary?

    – Would only happen if Trump’s approval rating with Republicans drops considerably and, even then, it would still be unlikely. Of course, if the party gets wiped out in November, if Trump gets impeached (but not removed), if he suffers a serious blow from any Mueller report, or if the economy stalls noticeably, then there MIGHT be a path, but only MIGHT. He’s just too strong with the party base and he has FoxNews and talk radio firmly with him.

    If there is to be a nominee other than Trump in 2020, my guess is it’s Pence. That happens by Trump waiting until the period right before the convention to announce he’s no longer running. At that point, the only person who would have a credible national operation would be Pence.

    Romney gets mentioned because he’s one of the only Republican figures with a high national profile and a substantial donor network that could raise the money to challenge a sitting president. That said, I’m not sure he would have much cache with primary voters. The name that should cause Trump some notice is Nikki Haley. If Trump slides in the polls next year and Haley suddenly resigns, then there might be a challenge. But I have included A LOT of if’s.

    Don’t bet on a primary challenge.

  10. Tgca says:

    10! Bebe! 10!

  11. lisab says:

    hd was planning to increase its overseas manufacturing and markets before trump was elected

    they built a factory in india specifically because india had 100% tariffs on bikes

    they then started building the thai facility in 2015, followed by the factory in 2017 — certainly it was planned well prior to being officially announced.

    how long does it take for a company to work out opening a multi-million dollar factory in a foreign country?

    i imagine it takes at least a year, so it was probably in the works in may 2016 if not way back in 2015

  12. mnw says:

    I guess when Trump & his economic team decided to impose tariffs, it never occurred to them that other nations might impose reciprocal tariffs. THEY MUST BE STUNNED BY THIS TOTALLY UNEXPECTED DEVELOPMENT!

    s/!!!!!

  13. Chicon says:

    The Robbie that wrote post number 9 is worth conversing with on a substantive basis. Thanks for the response.

  14. Tgca says:

    NYC

    I guess Dave read my post from the previous thread threatening to leave HHR without a new thread soon. I guess I put a bit of scare into him.

    …and this is how democracy works folks.


    Tgca says:
    June 24, 2018 at 10:29 pm
    We need a new thread. It takes forever for me to scroll to the bottom and read recent posts or post an item. If Dave is not going to be more timely in managing his threads, then I simply will not post here anymore. That’ll teach him! Humph!!!

  15. Tina says:

    Threatening to leave hr?

    One of the jebots threatened to do that, but did not,

  16. Tina says:

    I believe jeb bush will challenge trump in 2020″

  17. mnw says:

    This is really interesting to immigration/border hawks like me:

    House leaders are adding mandatory E-Verify to Ryan’s so-called Goodlatte2 bill.

    I have to admit, that is tempting! Haven’t heard about E-Verify for a LOOONG time. It probably means the revised bill will lose the votes of 25 or so GOPe, however, I suspect.

  18. Tina says:

    Sotomayirnhad a 20 minute meltdown.

    The minority opinion on the court is largely devoid of any law.

    It is just feelings and more feelings.

    Cj Roberts slammed the jebots good.

  19. mnw says:

    There are reports from The Wise Men that Biden has said he won’t run in 2020.

    I can see why: too old; too white; too sex predator. He couldn’t get nominated if he were to run.

  20. Tgca says:

    This is absurd! I believe the stats they use are bogus because of the definitions used. I do not believe 1 in 5 women have been raped. As we have learned over the years, rape and sexual assault can include being groped by your partner if you’re not in the mood.

    Poll: US Ranked Among 10 Most Dangerous Countries for Women

    Almost one in five women have been raped, and more than one in three experienced rape, violence or stalking by an intimate partner, according to 2010 statistics by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/women-danger-metoo-sexual-harassment/2018/06/26/id/868398/

  21. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    June 26, 2018 at 4:50 pm
    There are reports from The Wise Men that Biden has said he won’t run in 2020.
    I can see why: too old; too white; too sex predator. He couldn’t get nominated if he were to run.

    – Too old, too white, too sex predator. Things that could easily be said about Trump.

  22. Tgca says:

    Oh my Gawd! I finally located Chekote after all these years…or is that Sonia Sotomayor earlier today? Hard to tell. You decided de.

    http://abc13.com/womans-outburst-on-spirit-flight-from-houston-stuns-passengers/3654463/

  23. NYCmike says:

    #21 – They were said about Trump……and he laughed at them.

  24. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    20. Tgca. Since your moved to Florida, your missed an interesting musical event:

    “San Francisco Gay Men’s Chorus performs with Mormon Tabernacle Choir

    Mountain View, Calif. — When Dr. Timothy Seelig, the artistic director of the San Francisco Gay Men’s Chorus, first heard his organization was being invited to perform with the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, he guessed it was a prank.
    “Yeah, when pigs fly,” thought the native Texan.
    But he soon learned the invite was legitimate — and he was quick to accept.
    The veteran choral leader knows music is often called a universal language, but it is also a global unifier. It can bring people together who may seem at odds.
    Music’s unifying power was on full display Monday here on the stage of the Shoreline Amphitheater in Northern California. Standing shoulder to shoulder for a sound check rehearsal was the Mormon Tabernacle Choir and several members of the San Francisco Gay Men’s Chorus.

  25. NYCmike says:

    “He’s just too strong with the party base and he has FoxNews and talk radio firmly with him.”

    -Let me get this straight……being strong with the party base, and with the only network which gives Republicans a fair shake, and with the one medium which is for the most part on the Republican side……IS A BAD THING??

  26. NYCmike says:

    “Cj Roberts slammed the jebots good.”

    -Someone mentioned on the last thread, how Justice Thomas mentioned the fact that district courts are issuing “universal injunctions” more and more……and that practice may need to be reined in, as the power to do that may not legitimately reside in their powers….(or some such thing over the course of 20-odd pages!)(These justices, and their aides, are very wordy!)

  27. NYCmike says:

    “Romney gets mentioned because” he showed in 2012 that he does NOT have the stomach to do what must be done in today’s political reality.

    VERY similar to JEB!2016.

  28. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    13. “The Robbie that wrote post number 9 is worth conversing with on a substantive basis. Thanks for the response.”

    Yes, but judging from Robbie’s posts from 2006, which were published on the previous thread, he has not been happy with any Republican presidents or Republican candidates over the last two decades. He belongs to the Calvin Coolidge faction of the Republican Party.

  29. Hugh says:

    . Yet projecting over 3 percent growth. He must have some clue of what he’s doing.

  30. Tina says:

    Now we know that it is not too far fetched for the 4 radicals to be citing shariah law or foreign law.

    They are twisted.

    It is should have been unanimous.

    The law is clear.

  31. Chicon says:

    Agree. The travel ban case should have been a shutout.

  32. Tina says:

    The jebots have ambushed Mitch McConnell car. His wife confronted them and yelled at them, per gp site.

  33. Tina says:

    Where was Michies security team?

  34. lisab says:

    Stuart man arrested for threatening U.S. Rep. Brian Mast’s children

    A criminal complaint shows Key is accused of calling Mast’s Washington, D.C. office Monday, and telling an intern who answered the phone, “I’m going to find the Congressman’s kids and kill them. If you’re going to separate kids at the border, I’m going to kill his kids. Don’t try to find me because you won’t.’

    Documents show that the intern reported the phone call to their supervisor. The FBI was made aware of the threat and began an investigation. Key was arrested shortly after allegedly making the threat.

    In an interview with the FBI and a Martin County deputy, Key told investigators he did not threaten to kill Mast’s children, but said if Mast supports President Trump’s immigration policies, Mast should be separated from his children.

    Key’s social media pages show he is very politically active. He volunteers regularly for the Democratic Party of Martin County and has volunteered many hours for Planned Parenthood, according to a friend of Key’s.

    Key is also seen in a picture speaking to Mast at an event.

    Friends of Key’s call him a ‘gentle soul’ and do not believe he would ever hurt anyone.

    The criminal complaint also shows Key has contacted Mast’s office 478 times. He also contacted U.S Sen. Marco Rubio and U.S Sen. Bill Nelson’s offices Monday.

  35. Phil says:

    …..another Democrat “gentle soul”

    Seem to be a lot of those around.

  36. mnw says:

    Per FOX, DEMs ask, “Where’s Obama?”

    OK… trot Zero out there! Bring that on. Let’s see if America wants a second helping.

    Come to MO, Zero! HELP your pal Sky Queen. We need u out here in flyover land.

  37. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Time for a certain community organizer to come out of retirement.

    “On Monday, at least 21 people were shot in Chicago. Two of them — including a teenager — were killed.

    The violent day comes just weeks after the nation’s third-largest city, long plagued by gun-related crime, marked its 15th consecutive month of declining killings and shootings.
    Between January 1 and May 31, Chicago recorded 52 fewer murders and 229 fewer shootings — both a 21% drop — than during the same period in 2017, according to the Chicago Police Department.
    Chicago officials laud 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence
    Chicago officials laud 15th consecutive month of declining gun violence
    City officials have attributed declines to hiring more officers, stronger community policing and investments in technology, such as ShotSpotter gunshot detection systems and predictive crime software that helps deploy officers.
    While data suggest a downward trend in murders and shootings, crime tends to pick up with warmer weather, experts say.”

  38. Tina says:

    Rumor is that the obumbler is depressed.

  39. Chicon says:

    40 – well, he is married to Michelle…

  40. mnw says:

    Daimler (Benz) today issued a profit warning, not because of tariffs, because of the mere RUMOR of tariffs.

    Tell me again how Germany holds all the winning cards?

    There is an article in the Weekly Standard (link at Power Line blog) by UK economist Irwin Steltzer– no friend of Trump he– not AT ALL.

    Nonetheless, Steltzer explains in great detail how the U.S. can & will likely prevail in the current trade “war.” (Btw, Steltzer doesn’t call it “a trade pillow fight,” as I do. He calls it “a penny ante poker game.”)

  41. mnw says:

    In fairness to our gracious host Dave, I say AGAIN that the LEAST we can do is talk a little about the primary in MD tonight.

    I’ll get the ball rolling myself, right now!…

    (I got nothing.)

  42. Tina says:

    Nbc is reporting that press secretary to get secret service protection on a temporary basis.

  43. lisab says:

    In fairness to our gracious host Dave, I say AGAIN that the LEAST we can do is talk a little about the primary in MD tonight.

    I’ll get the ball rolling myself, right now!…
    ——————–

    the dems won!

  44. Tina says:

    Elaine Chao stands her ground.

    She is a bad arse and gets in the protesters face.

    https://youtu.be/l86TtBFIZnE

  45. Tina says:

    Notice how the drat protesters are targeting women.

    Chao, sanders, the dhs sec., etc.

    Bad optic jebots.

  46. lisab says:

    remember back in the old days when robbie

    hated flake and wanted to purge the gop of rinos

    and loved pence and wanted to make him a party leader

    and now he hates pence and loves flake

    ah … those were the days

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3KEhWTnWvE

  47. CG says:

    It looks like Joe Crowley, the Chairman of the House Democrat Caucus has been unseated in NYC by a little known 28 year old opponent who stressed he was insufficiently liberal. So much for his planning to push Pelosi aside to be Speaker next year.

    Shades of what happened to Eric Cantor in Virginia. Nobody saw this coming.

  48. mnw says:

    Donovan (R-inc) has easily defeated ex-felon Grimm in NY-11.

  49. CG says:

    RIP Yosh Kawano

  50. Tina says:

    Those protesters would have gotten into the face of Mitch McConnell, who is disabled.

    Elaine Chao got right in their faces.

    The lefts are unhinged. It will only get worse when Fuhrwr Mukehead loses some court cases.

  51. Tina says:

    Bill Mitchell
    @mitchellvii
    AND THERE YA GO – FROM CNBC NO LESS – Poll: More Americans Believe Country \’Better Off’ if GOP Controls Congress | Breitbart (link: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/06/25/poll-more-americans-believe-country-better-off-if-gop-controls-congress/) breitbart.com/big-government… via @BreitbartNews

    But muh blue wave knows no boundaries.

  52. sandiegocitizen says:

    Utah primary: Romney 75% Kennedy 25%.

  53. lisab says:

    that commercial is very strong … but … it is not liberals who are unhinged, it is the leftist dems …

    that is why some union members and minorities are joining the #walkaway group

    the leftist dems want to allow a bunch of aliens, including some very violent criminals, into the country, meanwhile many americans are homeless and without jobs. places like detroit and large parts of other cities are literally becoming shanty towns

    while the leftist dems want to give these illegal aliens welfare! a lot of dems are NOT happy with that policy, particularly african americans.

    case in point, a young african teen was just butchered by m13 gang members using machetes in nyc!

    poor people understand that they are the ones who suffer by these criminals coming into the country, not dem politicians who live in gated communities.

  54. Chicon says:

    55 – a squeaker!

  55. lisab says:

    the dem leadership better come out against these thugs and quickly

    and by thugs i mean both the people making threats and harassing the gop

    AND

    the criminal aliens

    and they better do so strongly.

    this is their best chance to capture the house in years and they are blowing it by the brownshirt tactics of the leftists

  56. CG says:

    “Romney beats Kennedy” are words that deserved to have been spoken 24 years ago.

    This was not as good of a night for Mitt Romney’s nephew however. He is running at the back of the pack in the Republican primary for Colorado Governor.

    The winner of the GOP nomination for Colorado Governor is Walker Stapleton, a cousin of the Bush Family.

  57. NYCmike says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 25, 2018 at 10:43 am

    I will be surprised if Grimm gets more than 40% in my old district……personally, even that much would be a surprise.

    -Any results for NY CD11?

  58. Phil says:

    Agree with Lisa. being civil does matter to swing voters. Anyone else remember how Democratic behavior at the Wellstone memorial worked out for their party in 2002? I do. It was a disaster for them. The things the left are pulling dwarf what happened in 2002. Their whole party is too cacooned to see how all this is playing with the middle…..to say nothing of how it is going to rev up Republican turnout in a midterm base election.

    When you are eaten up with rage you get stupid. Exactly what is happening on the left.

  59. lisab says:

    Their whole party is too cacooned to see how all this is playing with the middle
    ———————-

    actually it isn’t

    check out the #walkaway movement. lots of people are very upset with the wacky dem leadership

    basically any dem with a real job, or who at least wants a job, is questioning why the dem leadership is sucking up to criminal aliens and millenials

    union members work for a living … truck drivers, masons, pipe fitters etc. are not too keen on mamas boys complaining that they cannot get a job with their gender study improvisational dance major

    and african americans and poor hispanics don’t want cheap labor taking their jobs

    and

    they certainly don’t want to live in neighborhoods flooded with m13 members

  60. lisab says:

    let me put it this way …

    teachers have been one of the biggest dem supporters in midterm and off-year elections for decades …

    suddenly our schools are flooded with late teen to 20 year olds, who don’t speak english, and who in some cases are violent

    i am not joking either. ask your local school district how old their oldest student is in middle and high school — they could be 20 — with 13 year olds

  61. phoenixrisen says:

    Medical Marijuana passes 57-43 in Oklahoma. Mick Cornett vs. Kevin Stitt in runoff. Big upset with Stitt taking out Lt. Governor Todd Lamb by 2000 votes or so when the rest of precincts report. Fallin may have hurt Lamb. Dem candidate for governor will be Drew Edmondson. This will be a competitive race.

  62. mnw says:

    NYC

    Donovan won by 2-to-1. Grimm got appx 36%, so u were right. The polls were way off (like WV), but they were taken before Trump’s endorsement of Donovan, I think.

  63. Phil says:

    You are right. It isn’t the whole party. It is most of it, however. The blue collar whites – union and otherwise are the ones being alienated by what has become a party of the far left.

  64. lisab says:

    Maryland schools see influx of immigrants from Central America

    While Maryland schools are well equipped to take in immigrants, the thousands of unaccompanied minors streaming across the border from Central America bring a new set of issues. They are most likely teenagers who not only don’t speak English but also have significant deficits in their education. School officials said they have seen nearly illiterate high-schoolers, girls who have been sexually assaulted during their journey across the border, and others who are overwhelmed and depressed.

    “Many are coming with psychological or emotional trauma. Many are not literate in Spanish … and may only have gone to school up to the first or second grade. They may have huge gaps,” said Kelly Reider, coordinator for English language acquisition and international student services in Anne Arundel County….

    Many of the students appear to have ended up in counties in Central Maryland, including Montgomery, Anne Arundel and Prince George’s, but Howard and Baltimore counties and Baltimore City have gotten a few dozen each as well.

    Anne Arundel registered 1,000 new international students in about the past year, 600 of whom are kindergartners. Another 274 students had come recently from Honduras, Guatemala and El Salvador, up from 162 the year before.

    “It is a very different workload than it was two years ago,” said Reider, adding that her office had registered many more students this year.

    There is now one teacher for every 30 international students in the county’s high schools and one teacher for every 40 elementary students, but Reider said she expects those ratios will rise as more students arrive throughout the year.

  65. mnw says:

    I think Trump has pretty much gotten all the blue collar whites already.

    There are still promising new Trump hunting grounds out there among Asians; AAs; middle class Latinos.

    Just eat away at the margins. Get 15%, instead of 9%, kind of thing.

  66. mnw says:

    Stop illegal immigration, or it will stop YOU.

  67. lisab says:

    to put that in perspective … a normal special ed class, for teaching children that were a couple of grades behind in reading … would have 8 students, 1 teacher and 1 aide (called an 8-1-1 classroom).

    now you have 30 students, some traumatized, some violent, who don’t speak much english and are often not literate in spanish … to one teacher

    mmmmmmmkay … that is not going to work

    teachers in these areas are pretty angry

    (fortunately where i worked in illinois, ny and where i will work in minnesota don’t have this problem)

  68. lisab says:

    don’t get me wrong, teachers by and large still hate trump. and always will

    but there is real anger in parts of the dem party

    i can tell you from personal experience the rural dem teachers are in an uproar … i don’t know about the ny city teachers

  69. mnw says:

    Some teachers may like him a lot more tomorrow, perhaps, when they are no longer forced to pay union dues– to support political causes they hate.

  70. Wobbles says:

    Utah primary: Romney 75% Kennedy 25%.”

    Looks like Rommey ALMOST lost the primary to the deadender.

  71. Phil says:

    As a retired teacher of five years I can confirm the basics of what Lisa has said – at least here in Texas. I maintain contact with many of my former faculty members. Lisa is right. Lots of discontent. Because of the influx of illegals in our schools down here the job of teaching, already hard, has become much harder. Larger class sizes, language barrier, kid’s with no basic learning skill or foundation – it’s a mess.

    More teachers tend to lean Democratic although it has never been as one sided in Texas.

    Beto will probably carry the teacher vote here in November. However, it won’t be by the usual twenty points. I’d say half that. The Illegal immigration issue is going to hurt Democrats. Don’t kid yourself.

  72. jason says:

    Another “win” for the AFL-CIO conservatives.

    Largest US nail manufacturer considering moving to Mexico.

    “The Mid-Continent Nail plant in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, laid off 60 of its 500 workers last week because of increased steel costs. The company blames the 25% tariff on imported steel. Orders for nails plunged 50% after the company raised its prices to deal with higher steel costs.”

    The company is in danger of shutting production by Labor Day unless the Commerce Department grants it an exclusion from paying the tariffs, company spokesman James Glassman told CNN’s Poppy Harlow.

    Mid-Continent Nail is “on the brink of extinction,” he said.

    Glassman said the company might relocate to Mexico, where it could buy the steel without the tariffs — and then export the finished nails back to the United States without tariffs, which only apply to raw materials.

    “It’s obviously an option,” said Glassman about moving to Mexico. “It absolutely is something this company does not want to do. It wants to save the jobs in Poplar Bluff, Missouri.”

    Mid-Continent Nail had doubled its workforce since 2013 despite increased foreign competition. Now the new steel tariff has forced them to cut their staff by about 12%. Glassman said that Trump’s trade policy is “misguided.”

  73. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The trolls were predicting an extremist would defeat an incumbent congress member in New York, and one did.

    “NEW YORK (AP) — As Donald Trump’s party came together, a 28-year-old liberal activist ousted top House Democrat Joe Crowley in the president’s hometown Tuesday night, a stunning defeat that suddenly forced Democrats to confront their own internal divisions.
    Crowley, the No. 4 House Democrat and until Tuesday considered a possible candidate to replace Nancy Pelosi as leader, becomes the first Democratic incumbent to fall this primary season. He was beaten by underfunded challenger Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the daughter of working-class immigrants and a former Bernie Sanders organizer who caught fire with the party’s left wing.
    Crowley’s loss echoed across the political world, sending the unmistakable message that divisions between the Democratic Party’s pragmatic and more liberal wings may be widening heading into the high-stakes November midterm elections. It also exposed a generational divide among Democrats still struggling with their identity in the Trump era.
    “The community is ready for a movement of economic and social justice. That is what we tried to deliver,” Ocasio-Cortez said in an interview with The Associated Press.”

  74. lisab says:

    Some teachers may like him a lot more tomorrow, perhaps, when they are no longer forced to pay union dues– to support political causes they hate.
    —————————-

    i don’t think so … teachers generally like their unions

    the aft and to a lesser extent the nea have traditionally, although admittedly not recently, been focused on bread and butter issues and making schools better.

    teachers are one of the last bastions of union support

  75. Gpo says:

    Crowley result is awesome

  76. phoenixrisen says:

    #76 — That is something the GOP has to be really happy seeing. The progressive wing is driving Democrats into the wilderness and keeping them there. So long as the progressives are entrenched in leadership posts, the Democrats are going to have a very long six years. Case in point: They should have elected Tim Ryan of Ohio to replace Pelosi. Ryan identified where Democrats became disconnected. Fortunately for the GOP, the majority re-elected Pelosi because of their delusional, maddening hate for Trump. If the mid-terms play out as what they look to be right now, there is going to be a definite civil war within the Democratic Party.

  77. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Bernie is lining up the troops, 2020 is going to be a war, among Democrats.

    “Sanders issued a statement congratulating Ocasio-Cortez for her “extraordinary upset victory.”

    “She took on the entire local Democratic establishment in her district and won a very strong victory,” Sanders said. “She demonstrated once again what progressive grassroots politics can do.”

  78. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    There are already demonstrations in Iran against the government. An now it is going to get worse.

    “U.S. pushes allies to halt Iran oil imports, waivers unlikely
    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The United States has told countries to cut all imports of Iranian oil from November and is unlikely to offer any exemptions, a senior State Department official said on Tuesday as the Trump administration ramps up pressure on allies to cut off funding to Iran.

    U.S. President Donald Trump in May said his administration was withdrawing from the “defective” nuclear deal agreed between Iran and six world powers in July 2015, aimed at curbing Tehran’s nuclear capabilities in exchange for the lifting of some sanctions, and ordered the reimposition of U.S. sanctions against Tehran that were suspended under the accord.

    “Yes, we are asking them to go to zero,” the official said when asked if the United States was pushing allies, including China and India, to cut oil imports to zero by November.

    “We’re going to isolate streams of Iranian funding and looking to highlight the totality of Iran’s malign behavior across the region,” the official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told reporters.”

    Trump is such a bully; Obama may need to go on one of his apology tours.

  79. Bitterlaw says:

    Rome has scooters everywhere. In 5 days, I have only seen 2 American motorcycles. They also have tiny cars. I suspect that getting hit by them would be no worse than getting run over by a shopping cart but I won’t test it.

  80. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “@realDonaldTrump
    Big and conclusive win by Mitt Romney. Congratulations! I look forward to working together – there is so much good to do. A great and loving family will be coming to D.C.”

  81. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    76. “As Donald Trump’s party came together, a 28-year-old liberal activist ousted top House Democrat Joe Crowley.”

    This line from an article in the leftist AP, says it all.

  82. Tina says:

    Joe Crowley a 9-term Democrat Congressman from Queens was defeated in the Democratic primary by a Puerto Rican socialist woman who calls for the abolition of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), Medicare for All, tuition-free public college, a federal jobs guarantee, and criminal justice reform “now.”

    Abolish ice, no law, and disorder.

    The socialists have taken over the Drats.

  83. dblaikie says:

    Hold on to your hats this new ad by the RNC is right up there with the Johnson’s little girl being blown up by a nuclear bomb. It is entitled, “The Left Unhinged”. When the media sees this ad they are going to explode. Should be fun to watch. Here is the link:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFRHX6glTSM

  84. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    SCOTUSBlog says that the last two decisions for this term will be released this morning around 10:00 a.m..
    The big one is the Janus Union case, which I believe will be a 5-4 ruling in favor of declawing public employee unions’ power and funding.

    Then we get into any retirement announcements tomorrow and Friday. I say there will be one–Clarence Thomas.

  85. Redmen4ever says:

    Claims of a rape epidemic are supported by various surveys and TOTALLY CONTRADICTED by other surveys.

    A survey that is widely cited by radical feminists is from the CDC. It concerns life-time incidence (as opposed to “past year” or “past-six month” incidence, as is collected by various victim surveys).

    According to the CDC:

    RAPE (versus SEXUAL ASSAULT) (forcible rape, being penetrated)

    For women: Lesbian – 13.1%; Bisexual – 46.1%; Heterosexual – 17.4%

    For men: Gay and Bi – numbers too small to estimate; Heterosexual – 0.7%

    SEXUAL ASSAULT (broader category) (contact isn’t even required)

    For women: Lesbian – 46.4%; Bisexual – 74.9%; Heterosexual – 43.3%

    For men: Gay – 40.2%; Bisexual – 47.4%; Heterosexual – 20.8%

    https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/nisvs_sofindings.pdf

    NOTE that lots of people feel their are assaulted, males as well as females; as many as half of females. But, this is a very loose standard.

    But, even considering the narrower definition, forcible rape, being penetrated, this is a very big number.

    The problem is: it is inconsistent with an enormous amount of other data.

    For example, according to the DOJ’s crime victim survey, 0.1 percent of Americans were victims of sexual assault during 2016, with about one-quarter of these assaults being reported to the police and about three-quarters not.

    See Table 2 on p. 5:

    https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv16.pdf

    0.1 percent is a little less, I would say, than 50 percent.

    I suspect one of these numbers is fake.

  86. mnw says:

    phoenix 79

    I hope you’re right, but the pundits said “20 years in the wilderness!” about the GOP & the Tea Party 10 years ago, too.

    SDC 81

    I can’t understand the problems the govt in Iran is having! It was explained to us that Trump’s reckless & unilateral abandonment of the Obama/Corker JCPOA would lead to disaster… for the U.S., not for Iran! So strange.

  87. Gpo says:

    This Crowley stuff is so great
    His constituency is apparently 20 % white – karma is a bitch – pro open borders – screwed by demographic change he helps usher in – love it

  88. Phil says:

    So Democrats have a new loon to put in Congress from NY. Abolish ICE? Guaranteed job for everyone? Guaranteed housing for all? ….and the MSM is gaga over this loon. Bottom line. The Party continues to careen to the radical left. Another absolute open borders whacko as the face of the party.

  89. mnw says:

    45/54

    GCB = DEMs +4 (same as last 2 weeks)

  90. DW says:

    91 – the loon learned in her university how well socialism works on the professor’s chalkboard. Now she will learn soon that it doesn’t work that way in real life.

  91. mnw says:

    I do like the fact that the DEMs are telling white males, “We don’t want to nominate you, no matter how liberal you are. You are still permitted to vote for us, though, if you wish.”

    I have only one prediction for 2020: the DEM nominee for POTUS will not be a white male.

  92. Phil says:

    Kamala Harris, mnw. Book it.

  93. mnw says:

    Right now, I agree that Harris is the early favorite.

    I think she is a poor choice for the DEMs, because she will remind people too much of Obama. Imo, most voters do not want an Obama third term.

  94. Phil says:

    She’s to the left of Obama if you can believe that. Also, meaner and mote ruthless.

  95. Chicon says:

    Huge blow to public sector labor unions.

  96. mnw says:

    5-4 & Breyer wrote it? Sounds like much less than we were hoping for. Could’ve been a lot worse, of course.

    I don’t think anybody, including Harris, could be “meaner” or “more ruthless” than Zero.

  97. Bio mom says:

    Alito wrote it.

  98. mnw says:

    Bio 101

    I was reading the SCOTUSblog, as the decision was being read. It’s frequently hard to get accurate, precise info during the first 5 minutes.

  99. Gpo says:

    Janus 5-4 alito writes
    Florida Georgia 5-4 Breyer writes

    That’s how scotusblog reported in their liveblog

    I still think Kennedy retires next day or so

  100. Phil says:

    99 Hide and watch.

  101. Robbie says:

    Sadly, I wasn’t surprised Kennedy didn’t announce his retirement today. First, he’s the most powerful man in the judiciary. Because there are four conservatives and four liberals, he will always be the deciding vote. Generally speaking, Kennedy has been conservative on most issues not dealing with social issues like abortion and gay marriage, but no one is ever really sure of his vote until decisions have been announced.

    More importantly though, Kennedy’s apparent decision to remain on the Supreme Court could be a serious blow to the conservative movement. Had he announced his retirement, there’s a 99.9% chance a far more conservative person would have replaced him (Kethledge, Kavanaugh, Eid, Willet, etc.). Now, the conservative majority could be totally dependent on the outcome of the Senate races in November. So while we all celebrate rulings like Janus, in three years a liberal majority could undo all of this.

    I also think Kennedy’s apparent decision to remain on the Supreme Court may well be a rebuke to Trump and the manner in which he’s conducted himself these last 18 months. Kennedy, by all accounts, is an elitist who favors decorum. It’s no secret Kennedy has been pondering retirement these last two years and it’s also no secret he wants to retire under a Republican president. So why not retire now when he’s certain a successor will be confirmed unless he’s possibly concluded he doesn’t want to give Trump the privilege? My guess is he’d have retired last year had another Republican been president.

  102. Robbie says:

    Gpo says:
    June 27, 2018 at 11:31 am
    Janus 5-4 alito writes
    Florida Georgia 5-4 Breyer writes
    That’s how scotusblog reported in their liveblog
    I still think Kennedy retires next day or so

    – If we haven’t heard anything by late Friday, he’s staying on for another term.

  103. mnw says:

    The first entry at “SCOTUSblog live” as the opinion was being read, during the first 2 minutes, was that Breyer wrote it. The liveblog also had the names of the dissenters wrong at first.

  104. Phil says:

    So Trump tweets that Democrats turned out an incumbent congressmanin favor of a leftist loon because said incumbent wasn’t respectful of him.

    LOL I’ll have what he’s drinking.

  105. mnw says:

    New Suffolk Univ PA poll has Casey (D) up +15 for SEN & Wolf (D) +13 for Gov. If it’s that bad, it could hurt GOP in tossup PA House races, perhaps.

  106. BayernFan says:

    He loves trolling the Dems and media.

  107. DW says:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    TX_31 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 180 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 181 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 182 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 183 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 184 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 185 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 186 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 187 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    NY_01 R | 190 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | 2.8 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NC_13 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    WV_03* R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | 2.4 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics)
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP) | 44/30 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 42/27 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (D Internal)
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  108. DW says:

    The above was posted due to new Monmouth poll of NJ_11, showing a close race, but the GOP slightly behind, whereas the PPP poll had the GOP slightly ahead in this seat well below the magic line for the Dems.

    Also RCP dropped MT_01 and WV_03 from lean R and Likely R to tossup based on recent polling.

  109. mnw says:

    DW

    The bold print is really helpful.

    I have no specific info, but my gut tells me they’re dreaming about knocking off the R-ind congressman in MT-01. However COW sez they could win in WV-03, so that passes the smell test.

  110. mnw says:

    sb “R-inc”

  111. paul says:

    Kennedy will wait to retire until the Democrats control the Senate.

  112. jason says:

    Germany out of the World Cup in huge upset.

  113. jason says:

    Kennedy will wait to retire until the Democrats control the Senate”

    Dang, he plans to live longer than Walt?

  114. DW says:

    Sorry, one more change. A new poll done by a D group of CA_25, one that is below the magic line for the Dems. You will like the result of the poll unless you are a troll:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    TX_31 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 180 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 181 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 182 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 183 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    NY_24 R | 184 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 185 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    AR_02 R | 186 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 187 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    NY_01 R | 190 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | 2.8 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NC_13 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    WV_03* R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | 2.4 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    VA_07 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 —
    MI_08 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    CA_45 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics)
    NC_09* R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP) | 44/30 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42 (Srategies 360-D)
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 42/27 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (D Internal)
    VA_10 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.4 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    MI_11* R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    NJ_02* R | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  115. paul says:

    Long wait. But it will be worth it in the end….because he is a true conservative.

  116. jason says:

    Over at Kos they are heralding the Crowley loss as a sign “progressives” are taking over the party.

    As to the SCOTUS decision, the Hillary and Bernie voters are blaming each other for the fact Trump won and nominated Gorsuch.

  117. Mr.Vito says:

    Ouch.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/media/394352-poll-72-percent-say-traditional-outlets-report-news-they-know-to-be-fake-false

    “The poll of nearly 4,000 adults shows that 92 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents “say that traditional news outlets knowingly report false or misleading stories at least sometimes,” a finding in line with other recent polls conducted by Pew Research and Gallup.

    It found the sentiment extends to those who identify as Independents and Democrats, with 79 percent of Independents also saying traditional outlets knowingly report false or misleading stories at least sometimes. Democrats agree by a slight majority of 53 percent.”

  118. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    115. “Kennedy will wait to retire until the Democrats control the Senate.”

    Am curious how you know this? Did you talk to Kennedy? Did a palm reader with a crystal ball tell you? Likewise, look at Robbie’s statements about Kennedy not retiring because he dislikes Trump.

    Do you have a shred of real evidence, or a statement from Kennedy, substantiating these claims? Trolls love to make stuff up.

  119. DW says:

    “Over at Kos they are heralding the Crowley loss as a sign “progressives” are taking over the party.”

    Good. I hope they succeed in taking over the party. The GOP would become the big tent and win more elections.

  120. DW says:

    Vito–I have said this before, but I have had several times in my life where I had direct access to all the facts of a news situation that actually made the print or television news. In each case they got a wide variety of both minor details and major parts of the stories wrong. Very sloppy work.

  121. Mr.Vito says:

    “The elimination of fair-share fees would create an all-or-nothing choice for the workers whom unions represent: pay union dues or pay nothing but still receive the benefits a union provides,” they wrote.

    “In that world, many rational employees will choose to become free riders.”

    ………………..

    BAH HAH HAH HAH HAH!

    Suddenly the left is against free riders!

  122. DW says:

    125 – yeah, the left has had several uncomfortable reversals of late. Just last week they came out in favor of the family unit, keeping families together–the very same family unit they have worked tirelessly to destroy for decades.

  123. paul says:

    122. It was clearly meant as a joke. And Dems won’t have the senate for quite awhile.

    I foresee the Dems picking up Nevada and Arizona but losing three other seats. Moving in the wrong direction unfortunately.

  124. Mr.Vito says:

    https://wallethub.com/edu/most-patriotic-states/13680/#main-findings

    10 least patriotic:
    Delaware
    Pennsylvania
    Michigan
    California
    Connecticut
    New York
    Illinois
    Rhode Island
    New Jersey
    Massachusetts

  125. George says:

    FOX TV: Kennedy plans to retire

  126. mnw says:

    DW 124

    I noticed the same thing in law-related/courthouse stories. Plain old-fashioned sloppiness.

    I have frequently read 1000-word stories, & when I got done, said “Yeah, OK… but what the hell actually HAPPENED?”

  127. Mr.Vito says:

    “FOX TV: Kennedy plans to retire”

    NO!!! I love her show!

  128. Chicon says:

    105 – good timing….

  129. DW says:

    105 – “I also think Kennedy’s apparent decision to remain on the Supreme Court may well be a rebuke to Trump”

    So glad you knew what was going on in the head of Kennedy.

  130. Mr.Vito says:

    Yeah, Kennedy and SCOTUS really showed Trump what for this year.

  131. DW says:

    siren at drudge over Kennedy retirement

  132. paul says:

    See, I told you so.

  133. paul says:

    Time to return Roe v. Wade and Brown v. Board of Ed!!!!

  134. DW says:

    Over the years I have posted about how badly off polling can be. Here is another bad one:

    Siena Research

    May 29–June 3, 2018

    New York CD_11 – Republican Primary

    Dan Donovan (R) 37
    Michael Grimm (R) 47

    Actual results:
    Dan Donovan (R) 64
    Michael Grimm (R) 36

    They were off by a whopping 38. Under on Donovan by 27 points, and over on Grimm by 11 points.

  135. Mr.Vito says:

    Last year, I said Kennedy wanted to rule on the Masterpiece Cake Shop, since he gave the gay marriage ruling, and would probably be done after that. They remanded the florist case in Washington as well, vacating the ruling.

  136. DW says:

    And Siena was supposed to be the ‘expert’ on NY polling.

  137. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Were our trolls born stupid, or do they have to practice every day?

  138. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    105. “I also think Kennedy’s apparent decision to remain on the Supreme Court may well be a rebuke to Trump and the manner in which he’s conducted himself these last 18 months. Kennedy, by all accounts, is an elitist who favors decorum. It’s no secret Kennedy has been pondering retirement these last two years and it’s also no secret he wants to retire under a Republican president. So why not retire now when he’s certain a successor will be confirmed unless he’s possibly concluded he doesn’t want to give Trump the privilege? My guess is he’d have retired last year had another Republican been president.”

    Robbie, don’t you feel like an idiot now after making this stuff up.

  139. DW says:

    Siena wasn’t any better on the D side of the NY primaries…

    Siena Research

    May 29–June 3, 2018

    New York CD_24 – Democratic Primary

    Dana Balter (D) 32
    Juanita Perez Williams (D) 45

    Actual results:

    Dana Balter (D) 63
    Juanita Perez Williams (D) 37

    Under on Balter by 31(!) and over on Williams by 8.

    Wow that has to be one of the worst set of polls by Siena I have ever seen.

  140. GF says:

    More importantly though, Kennedy’s apparent decision to remain on the Supreme Court could be a serious blow to the conservative movement. 11:40AM

    Kennedy will wait to retire until the Democrats control the Senate. 12:57PM
    **************************************************

    Well, those postulations had a great shelf life!

  141. DW says:

    Let me be the first to ask…

    I wonder what sort of judge President Hillary would have nominated to take Kennedy’s seat?

  142. Phil says:

    Another incentive for Republicans to turn out in November.

  143. Mr.Vito says:

    But the judges!

  144. mnw says:

    SCOTUS vacancy:

    This could have been their finest hour for Flake & St. John, but for this…

    Manchin, Heidi, Donnelly (& perhaps Sky Queen & Tester too) aren’t going to vote “no” this close to the 2018 GE.

    Should be fun watching Air Claire explain that “Gorsuch BAD! New Guy GOOD!”

    I hope that Team Trump selected their bulletproof choice a long time ago.

    The DEMs can’t delay the vote until after the GE, either.

  145. DW says:

    I would like Wes to show up today to talk strategy. Does Trump push to get this done and confirmed before the election, or use the confirmation process to drive up the GOP vote in ND, MT, IN, MO, etc.?

  146. DW says:

    Economist/You Gov generic ballot dropped from D+7 to D+5

  147. mnw says:

    Oh, hell, DW! Look at the potential downside! Seriously.

  148. NYCmike says:

    I guess Justice Kennedy does NOT favor decorum over mayhem…………is that a correct speculation……Robbie??

  149. Phil says:

    You can bet your bottom dollar the pick has already been decided on.

    Just waiting for the unveiling.

  150. NYCmike says:

    “Well, those postulations had a great shelf life!”

    -Since 2006 and before!

  151. mnw says:

    Assume there is just a 5% chance the DEMs re-take the Senate. It would be insanity to run even THAT risk.

  152. Mr.Vito says:

    Another reason this should be encouraging for Trump and republicans is it means Kennedy must have liked the Gorsuch pick, and he had enough confidence that a good replacement would be forthcoming.

  153. Phil says:

    George Will to tell us again why we should put Democrats in charge of both houses of Congress in November.

    By the way, going to vote no on Trump’s selection, Heidi, Joe, Claire? Go for it.

    Going to be fun watching Claire trying to do her usual election year tap dance around this one. Pass the popcorn.

  154. phoenixrisen says:

    The libs are going ape nuts on Twitter regarding Kennedy retirement. The Dems are having a really bad couple of weeks. Ginsburg either retires soon or dies while on the Court if Trump is a two term president.

  155. paul says:

    Time for Trump’s sister to get a seat.

  156. phoenixrisen says:

    McConnell will schedule vote in fall prior to mid-terms. Smart move as it energizes GOP base. Schumer is going to be giving McConnell a lot of tongue baths for awhile

  157. Phil says:

    Democrats and their Trump rage have already maxed out what they were going to get turnout wise in November. Republicans just got a huge boost with their turnout. Big time.

  158. CG says:

    Last week was a really bad week for Trump. This week is about as nightmarish as it gets for Democrats and the Left.

    (two good weeks for me)

  159. CG says:

    Definitely an interesting question as to if they should wait until after the midterms to entice conservatives to vote, especially in the Red States Democrats are defending, but I assuming they are going to leave nothing to chance and the new Justice will be confirmed before the midterms.

  160. Phil says:

    Of course, Democrats could filibuster the pick. Oh wait, they already burned that bridge.

    Never mind.

  161. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    162. “Last week was a really bad week for Trump. This week is about as nightmarish as it gets for Democrats and the Left. (two good weeks for me)”

    Why? Were you vacationing at Bogo Pogo?

  162. CG says:

    I hear it’s nice there, but no, just watching both major parties embarrass themselves.

    I salute Justice Kennedy and am happy for him that he is retiring. Trump will get to do one of two things now, either of which will please me. He will still be scum.

  163. Mr.Vito says:

    So who are the frontrunners?

  164. CG says:

    Kavanagh, Hardiman, or McConnell’s choice Amul Tharp, who would be the first Asian-American Justice.

    Apparently, Senator Mike Lee is also a possibility.

  165. Phil says:

    Perfect opportunity for McCain and Flake to try and throw a wrench into everything. Wouldn’t put it past McCain to give one final middle finger as he checks out. Probably not, however. Doubt he is well enough to vote in any case. Now, Flake? Don’t put it past him.

  166. CG says:

    Of course Trump might pick Jeannine Pirro because he’s seen her on tv.

    *If* he breaks his promise and does not appoint someone from the “list”, how many seconds will it take NYCMike to defend it?

  167. CG says:

    I don’t think Flake will do anything regarding this, although the battle to prevent Trump from implanting economy crushing tariffs is an important one for which Flake should be applauded.

  168. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “I hear it’s nice there, but no, just watching both major parties embarrass themselves.”

    Actually, I think the Republican Party has been pretty effective now. They are taking apart the leftist bureaucracy and baggage the Democrats saddled the country with. The Democrats thought it was their permanent legacy. I did not vote for Trump, but have to say am impressed.

  169. Mr.Vito says:

    “Perfect opportunity for McCain and Flake to try and throw a wrench into everything.”

    Flake was talking about blocking Trump judges already this week.

  170. NYCmike says:

    I need to find the article I read several months ago….or it may have even been last year….where the writer gave his reasons why it would be even better of both Kennedy and Thomas announced their retirement at the same time.

    While I would hate to see Thomas leave, I also know he has been there a very long time, and may not want to continue. Would it be better to replace him right now?

  171. CG says:

    Effective and honorable are different things.

    Yes though, Republicans in elected office did speak out against Trump’s child separation policy and had the effect of his changing it. Trump though, as the face of the Republican Party, had a very bad week, last week though, over that issue in particular, and that is seen in the fact that he has dropped five points in Rasmussen, Gallup, etc.

    The fact though that Democrats, in the face of Trump hurting himself politically, have since the weekend gone particularly bonkers, as evidenced by Maxine Waters, shows just how completely inept and unworthy they are.

  172. CG says:

    Clarence Thomas has every right to stay in his job. He is younger than Donald Trump. Why should he leave?

  173. NYCmike says:

    Trump had a bad week?

    HOW, exactly? What evidence can you show to back up that assertion? Polling data?

  174. NYCmike says:

    If Thomas WANTS to stay, I hope he feels that way for a VERY LONG TIME. He is probably the most solid justice on that court.

  175. NYCmike says:

    “Effective and honorable are different things.”

    -Agreed.

    See Trump vs JEB!2016.

  176. CG says:

    And for the record, I can look past judicial nominations, which was a campaign promise anyway and in theory should be a slam dunk for any President, and find the Trump Administration completely ineffective as it comes to advancing conservatism, whether related to massive tariffs, or what looks like a possible sham “deal” with North Korea, the inability to defund Planned Parenthood, get rid of Obamacare, etc.

    Both parties have major, major problems.

  177. CG says:

    Yes, polling data is there, if that is all you are willing to consider. Trump has dropped several points in all polls, including Rasmussen and Gallup since the Children as Pawns at the Border policy was unveiled.

    But yeah, if the Democrats keep acting this crazy, maybe that swings back a little for Trump as a response.

  178. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Perfect opportunity for McCain and Flake to try and throw a wrench into everything.”

    There are religious freedom issues that will be coming before the Supreme Court. Flake understands the importance of a conservative justice. It just cannot be someone off-the-wall. My hunch is McConnell will be talking to Flake about it immediately.

    Will McCain be able to vote? He may be to sick. Possibly a Democrat running for re-election will pair with him and not vote, which will provide cover in their re-election attempt.

  179. Phil says:

    Wonder how Schumer’s poodle, Manchin is going to pull this off. Must obey his master and vote no and somehow keep the mask on for the folks back home.

    That’s a tough on isn’t it Joe.

  180. CG says:

    There are 50 Republican votes without McCain. I also think it would be hard for Manchin to vote no on the confirmation, but who knows. I doubt you will get more than 1 or 2 Democrats voting yes, but that shouldn’t matter.

    I expect Flake will vote to confirm (if it is a conservative of course) and that he will continue to call for Trump to reverse course on the horrible tariff idea. Trump should consider the Supreme Court more important than his fetish for high tariffs anyway, but he might not.

  181. CG says:

    Before I leave, big congratulations to Mr. Janus and to Governor Rauner of Illinois. Today’s Court ruling was a big victory for freedom! (and a horrible one for Democrats)

    This might be Gov. Rauner’s one hurrah in office unfortunately.

  182. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    184. “Trump should consider the Supreme Court more important than his fetish for high tariffs anyway.”

    Am sure Trump will be willing to drop the tariffs, when other countries agree to drop theirs as well. Is interesting the U.S. is being attacked regarding Trump’s tariffs by countries that impose their own against the U.S. Its nice to have a president who is no longer a sucker.

  183. jason says:

    Trump didn’t have a bad week.

    If anything, it showed the fake outrage by the MSM on the immigration non-issue backfired, and that Trump’s base did not waver an inch.

  184. jason says:

    Am sure Trump will be willing to drop the tariffs, when other countries agree to drop theirs as well.”

    LOL

    I love it here.

  185. jason says:

    I guess with that logic we should be communists until all other countries are capitalists.

  186. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    188. Jason, are you saying that other countries should be able to have tariffs on U.S. goods, but the U.S. should have no tariffs. What is your definition of fair trade?

  187. jason says:

    The AFL-CIO conservatives are hilarious.

    Let’s just keep escalating the trade wars and see how far we can go in economic isolationism.

    Brilliant.

  188. Mr.Vito says:

    “Trump didn’t have a bad week.”

    Didn’t you link to polls that showed Trump approval went up and that the border controversy had no effect?

    Wobbles was calling the suicide hotline as I recall.

  189. jason says:

    What is your definition of fair trade?”

    I know what your definition of “fair trade” is. The same all the other AFL-CIO conservatives.

    No trade.

    I believe in free trade and free markets. It’s a principle that is not contingent upon if some country or other has tariffs, if you use that as an argument you don’t really believe in free trade.

    Why don’t be honest and drop the “fair trade” horsecrap and admit you are an isolationist and protectionist and think you can artificially “protect” non-competitive products and industries.

    The truth will set you free.

  190. jason says:

    Didn’t you link to polls that showed Trump approval went up and that the border controversy had no effect?”

    Yes, I did, but CG is addicted to the MSM fake news narrative.

  191. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    191. Jason, you avoided answering my question in 190.

  192. Mr.Vito says:

    “What is your definition of fair trade?”

    He has already said he does not care about fair trade.

  193. jason says:

    Brazil, Mexico, Switzerland, Sweden advance.

    Germany, Serbia, Costa Rica, South Korea out.

  194. mnw says:

    Thx to J. Kennedy, even The Wise Men @ RRH are kind of… upbeat!

    An opportunity for a rare photograph!

  195. jason says:

    ason, are you saying that other countries should be able to have tariffs on U.S. goods,”

    No, I am saying I against tariffs.

    I am for free trade (right, not “fair” trade as defined by the AFL-CIO).

    Period.

    Not that hard to understand.

  196. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    193. “artificially “protect” non-competitive products and industries.”

    When foreign countries impose 25% or 50% tariffs on U.S. goods, they make them noncompetitive. Blaming U.S. businesses for being noncompetitive because they are cannot compete in a rigged system is an unfair attack.

  197. NYCmike says:

    Heh, “CG” did mention polling data!

    What a joke! A momentary snippet in time, which has already been forgotten due to the TRUTH actually being reported, and that is what he is using.

  198. jason says:

    Trump needs someone that the Dems will have to make asses out of themselves to demonize.

    Yes, they will demonize the ghost of Mother Theresa if she was nominated, so make them fall down on their swords.

  199. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    190. Free trade does not exist in a rigged system. If anything, by bringing the issue to a head, Trump may actually be moving the world towareds free trade.

  200. phoenixrisen says:

    Whoa, I hadn’t even thought of the awesome strategic ramifications of Kennedy retiring regarding the Senate. Man, this is going to suck for Schumer with all those red and purple state seats that have to be held and McConnell forcing those Senators to vote on Trump’s pick. Win-win for the GOP.

  201. jason says:

    Blaming U.S. businesses for being noncompetitive because they are cannot compete in a rigged system is an unfair attack.”

    BS.

    Contrary to the AFL-CIO propaganda machine, you CAN have lower costs and more efficient production.

    The unions killed a lot of US industries by rejecting modernization and efficiency. Now they want to be “protected”.

    It’s unfortunate that Trump is a crony capitalist that believes in this crap. But he IS consistent, he has been favorable to the AFL-CIO agenda for decades.

    The same AFL-CIO that has spent hundreds of millions of dollars to elect moonbats and defeat conservatives.

  202. BayernFan says:

    Well ya gotta figger Manchin and Donnelly will support the nominee. Prolly Heitkamp too.

  203. jason says:

    Trump may actually be moving the world towareds free trade.”

    LOL

    The closest idiocy I have heard to this is “f–king for virginity”.

  204. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Know people criticize McConnell, but am glad he is there to move the Supreme Court nominee through the system. Given the narrow majority he is working with, he has been pretty effective.

  205. Mr.Vito says:

    “you CAN have lower costs and more efficient production.”

    You can in Thailand.

  206. Mr.Vito says:

    “…but am glad he is there to move the Supreme Court nominee through the system.”

    He has done a good job on that front.

  207. Robbie says:

    So, it appears a lot happened in the three hours I had my phone turned off while flying.

    There were several signs Kennedy might retire such as the low number of cases the Court had taken. Still, I figured he was going to stiff Trump.

    Now that the spot is open, here are the names I think would be the best. In no particular order, they are:

    Brett Kavanaugh
    Raymond Kethledge
    Amy Coney Barrett
    David Stras
    Amal Thapur
    Joan Larsen

    Age must be a factor and each of these are just barely over 50 or even under 50.

  208. BayernFan says:

    McCAin should be dead in 1-3 months

  209. phoenixrisen says:

    Schumer cannot stop a deeply conservative pick. Court should really sway to the right after this pick.

  210. hugh says:

    148. I see all democrats except maybe Manchin voting no. They have no choice as off year elections are base elections. Cant afford to irritate their base to hope to pick up some independents. Just my thought. Good new is they lose votes which ever way they vote. Lose lose for them in red states.

  211. BayernFan says:

    So how old is Ted Cruz?

  212. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    June 27, 2018 at 2:31 pm
    105. “I also think Kennedy’s apparent decision to remain on the Supreme Court may well be a rebuke to Trump and the manner in which he’s conducted himself these last 18 months. Kennedy, by all accounts, is an elitist who favors decorum. It’s no secret Kennedy has been pondering retirement these last two years and it’s also no secret he wants to retire under a Republican president. So why not retire now when he’s certain a successor will be confirmed unless he’s possibly concluded he doesn’t want to give Trump the privilege? My guess is he’d have retired last year had another Republican been president.”
    Robbie, don’t you feel like an idiot now after making this stuff up.

    – Not in the slightest. It’s well known Kennedy chose not to retire last year because he was “put off” by Trump’s behavior. Read any article about him or just go look at Erick Erickson’s feed today.

    I’m glad Kennedy proved me wrong, but I was clear to note his “apparent decision” not to retire. And had he remained, I think, once again, it would have been due to Trump’s behavior. That said, the liberals have acted just as poorly lately.

  213. NYCmike says:

    “It’s a principle that is not contingent upon if some country or other has tariffs, if you use that as an argument you don’t really believe in free trade.”

    -If you listen to Milton Friedman, I would come to believe that YES, free trade is contingent upon both sides engaging in free trade.

  214. CG says:

    Trump Tracking Poll JA

    Rasmussen- Was 49, now 45
    Gallup- Was 45, now 41.

    Are there other Trump JA polls?

  215. NYCmike says:

    ” It’s well known Kennedy chose not to retire last year because he was “put off” by Trump’s behavior. ”

    -In your basement.

    And which other ones?

  216. BayernFan says:

    Donnelly will vote yes if he thinks he has a chance at reelection.

  217. Robbie says:

    There’s one name I forgot to add to my list of names in 211.

    Don Willett. He might be the most conservative of the bunch.

  218. jason says:

    And had he remained, I think, once again, it would have been due to Trump’s behavior.”

    But since he didn’t it wasn’t about Trump’s “behavior” was it.

    GFY.

  219. NYCmike says:

    Cruz will be 48 this year.

  220. NYCmike says:

    Mike Lee just turned 47.

  221. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    June 27, 2018 at 2:16 pm
    105 – “I also think Kennedy’s apparent decision to remain on the Supreme Court may well be a rebuke to Trump”
    So glad you knew what was going on in the head of Kennedy.

    – Read any story last year about Kennedy’s decision not to retire. Heck, read Erick Erickson’s Twitter feed today. He did so because he was uncomfortable with Trump’s behavior.

  222. lisab says:

    damn!!! kennedy sure rebuked trump

    so much so robbie had to tag cg to troll

  223. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 27, 2018 at 2:12 pm
    105 – good timing….

    – Yawn.

  224. NYCmike says:

    ” Heck, read Erick Erickson’s Twitter feed today. ”

    -Pope Francis made Robbie give up The Bible.

    NOW, he goes to Twitter.

  225. Mr.Vito says:

    RCP has Trump approval pretty much flat over the last two weeks.

  226. NYCmike says:

    “so much so robbie had to tag cg to troll”

    -Trolling Trolling Trolling

    Keep those incorrect speculations extolling!

  227. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 27, 2018 at 2:54 pm
    I guess Justice Kennedy does NOT favor decorum over mayhem…………is that a correct speculation……Robbie??

    – Read any story about Kennedy from last year and they note he was turned off by Trump’s behavior. But as Erick Erickson noted today, Kennedy realized the other side was just as ridiculous and he correctly determined it was now or never because Democrats could be in control next year.

  228. lisab says:

    i guess kennedy is comfortable with trump’s behavior

  229. NYCmike says:

    “RCP has Trump approval pretty much flat over the last two weeks.”

    -“CG” doesn’t do RCP…….I guess.

  230. NYCmike says:

    So, not only is Kennedy turned off by Trump’s behavior, he thinks Democrats may win the Senate……it’s obvious why he became a judge, and not a politician.

  231. Mr.Vito says:

    Read any story, Mike.

    Don’t you trust the media?

  232. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 27, 2018 at 2:54 pm
    You can bet your bottom dollar the pick has already been decided on.
    Just waiting for the unveiling.

    – I doubt it. This came as a surprise to the White House. Kennedy didn’t tell the other justices until the session ended today. I don’t think they had any heads up. Maybe reporting will suggest otherwise, but the shock Democrats are feeling suggests this was a very well held secret by Kennedy.

    The White House probably has a list of three or four, but I doubt they’ve already made the pick. That said, with one or two exceptions, any name on his list is fine with me.

  233. NYCmike says:

    The Bible, as written by….Erick Erickson?

  234. NYCmike says:

    “This came as a surprise to the White House.”

    -Proof?

  235. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    June 27, 2018 at 3:24 pm
    “Perfect opportunity for McCain and Flake to try and throw a wrench into everything.”
    Flake was talking about blocking Trump judges already this week.

    – Slowing down circuit court picks is a lot different that a Supreme Court pick.

    I don’t see Flake et al playing games.

  236. NYCmike says:

    I actually agree that the White House did not know that he was retiring today……BUT, you make that comment without any hesitation, despite the fact that you have gotten so many things wrong.

    I do admire your arrogance……guite TRUMPIAN.

  237. mnw says:

    A CCA judge would be the easiest to confirm. Someone who’s already BEEN confirmed once already. Not much chance of skeletons jumping out of those thoroughly-explored closets.

    There are 6 of them on Trump’s list.

    No Cruz or Lee, I’m pretty certain. They would be the most difficult to confirm. Lengthy voting records on every damn thing imaginable.

  238. jason says:

    CG conveniently left out the CNBC poll.

    Why?

    Because he and Amoral Scumbag were hardest hit by the last sentence.

    “For the first time since President Donald Trump took office, the CNBC All-America Economic Survey shows more than half the public approving his handling of the economy, and it appears to be having some impact on his overall job approval rating.

    The president’s economic approval rating surged 6 points to 51 percent with just 36 percent of the public disapproving, a 6 point drop from the March Survey.

    His overall approving rating rose 2 points to 41 percent from the first quarter survey, but the percentage of Americans who disapprove dropped 10 points to 47 percent, the lowest recorded by CNBC during his presidency. Trump’s approval rating remains negative, at minus 6, but it’s also the lowest negative rating recorded since he took office.

    The survey suggests that the recent controversy over the president’s decision to separate children from their parents at the border has had little effect either way.”

  239. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 27, 2018 at 3:28 pm
    Trump had a bad week?
    HOW, exactly? What evidence can you show to back up that assertion? Polling data?

    – You really can’t be serious. Last week was probably Trump’s worst. If you want polling to confirm that, well he went from 45 to 41 in Gallup.

    Trump didn’t back down on the separation issue just for fun. He had lost his own party on this issue. Not a single Senator supported the issue.

  240. NYCmike says:

    “Kennedy didn’t tell the other justices until the session ended today. I don’t think they had any heads up.”

    -I guess he followed Scalia’s lead??

  241. Mr.Vito says:

    “Slowing down circuit court picks is a lot different that a Supreme Court pick.”

    Not really. They are an equally asinine idea.

  242. Phil says:

    Barrett and Larsen are relatively young women. Barrett is 46, Larsen is 49. Both were confirmed last year to the Circuit Court with 55 and 60 votes respectively. Both would be slam dunks for confirmation.

    If you really wanted to put red state Democrats like Manchin and sky queen on the spot Trump could nominate a more outspoken male conservative and let them twist in the wind just prior to the November election.

  243. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    June 27, 2018 at 3:52 pm
    “Trump didn’t have a bad week.”
    Didn’t you link to polls that showed Trump approval went up and that the border controversy had no effect?
    Wobbles was calling the suicide hotline as I recall.

    – Gallup last week 45%

    Gallup this week 41%.

    Not a single Republican Senator supported his separation policy. Trump was forced to walk back his policy and was right to do.

  244. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:11 pm
    McCAin should be dead in 1-3 months

    – Classy.

  245. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag wants the Democrats to win the Senate because he hates Trump.

    He hates Trump because Trump destroyed his candidate. Nothing about his “behavior”, that is all show. Someone with his moral character could care less about Trump’s.

    It’s how he thinks. Go back a decade or more and its always the same M.O.

    He celebrated Obama’s win over Romney because there was no “brokered convention” to anoint Jeb.

  246. CG says:

    I went to RCP.

    They have Trump’s JA average at 43-52. Do you folks even agree with that or do you think he is more popular?

    Looking at the polls since the border issue of last week and comparing the samples with the previous edition of those polls

    Economist/You Gov: Went from 44/50 to 43/52 (net loss of 3)

    Harvard/Harris 47/53 (no other recent poll)

    Rasmussen as of today is 45/54. It was 49/49 two weeks ago. (net loss of 9)

    Gallup had it on Monday at 41/55. The week previous 45/50. (net loss of 9)

    Those are the post-border controversy polls. We will see what the other polling outfits say and how they compare, but clearly, Trump has lost ground over the past two weeks

    The entire point I was trying to make is that the week the Democrats are having this week is *worse* (this goes beyond polls) than the one Trump had the week before, but some people are so robotically insistent on defending anything Trump, they have to quibble on that.

    Gallup is now

  247. Jeff G. says:

    According to FiveThirtyEight, on July 15, 2016, Democrats were poised to retake the House with a an average advantage of +6.2% on the generic ballot. Take a look at RCP’s generic number today. (Hint: The margin is the same.) Will the final result be different? We’ll see in a little over four months.

  248. jason says:

    Not a single Republican Senator supported his separation policy.”

    Zzzzzz…

    Not a single Democrat opposed the same policy when Obama was President.

  249. CG says:

    Per RCP, CNBC had Trump at 41/47 and that was prior to the other polls.

    The tariff issue has also had an effect on Trump’s poll numbers.

  250. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:16 pm
    ” It’s well known Kennedy chose not to retire last year because he was “put off” by Trump’s behavior. ”
    -In your basement.
    And which other ones?

    – Bless your heart.

    I know you’re cool with anything Trump says or does, but Kennedy chose not to retire last year because of Trump’s behavior. You can either accept that or be like your boy Chris McDaniel who still hasn’t conceded his 2014 Senate race to Thad Cochran.

  251. mnw says:

    BF has pointed out that Donnelly will vote to confirm, as long as he thinks he has ANY chance to win reelection. I agree, & I submit the same is even MORE true for Heitkamp, McCaskill & Manchin– as long as the vote comes before the GE.

    That scenario would make Flake & Saint John irrelevant.

  252. Phil says:

    I agree the tariff issue had a negative effect on Trump’s poll numbers. The guy doesn’t get it on trade. He just doesn’t.

  253. BayernFan says:

    The notion that this vacancy took Trump by surprise is beyond delusional.

  254. jason says:

    Those are the post-border controversy polls.”

    No, those are your “selective” polls.

    I know the truth hurts, so feel free to ignore it.

    And of course, even the 43-54 number you quote is a big improvement for Trump, he was negative in double digits for a long time.

    “His overall approving rating rose 2 points to 41 percent from the first quarter survey, but the percentage of Americans who disapprove dropped 10 points to 47 percent, the lowest recorded by CNBC during his presidency. Trump’s approval rating remains negative, at minus 6, but it’s also the lowest negative rating recorded since he took office.

    The survey suggests that the recent controversy over the president’s decision to separate children from their parents at the border has had little effect either way.”

  255. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:17 pm
    And had he remained, I think, once again, it would have been due to Trump’s behavior.”
    But since he didn’t it wasn’t about Trump’s “behavior” was it.
    GFY.

    – As Erick Erickson noted, Kennedy came to realize Trump’s behavior was matched only by the behavior of the liberals.

    But think or swear however much you prefer.

  256. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:19 pm
    damn!!! kennedy sure rebuked trump
    so much so robbie had to tag cg to troll

    – Has Trump won his surefire lawsuit against the GOA for giving his transition emails to Mueller? You swore to me in December it was a no-brainer lawsuit.

  257. BayernFan says:

    Robbie do you disagree that McCAin should be dead within 1-3 months? He has GBMF right?

  258. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:20 pm
    ” Heck, read Erick Erickson’s Twitter feed today. ”
    -Pope Francis made Robbie give up The Bible.
    NOW, he goes to Twitter.

    – Trump made NYCmike remove what was left of his brain.

  259. Phil says:

    There is no way the Kennedy vacancy was a surprise. Kennedy has been on retirement watch for two years now. Think the Trump administration hasn’t been gaming out a successor. Get real.

  260. CG says:

    I listed every one of the most recent JA poll on RCP. Nothing selective about it. What was not included?

    Trump has dropped in the polls over the past two weeks. I believe the border controversy and the back and forth over tariffs are the likely reasons.

  261. jason says:

    but Kennedy chose not to retire last year because of Trump’s behavior. ”

    Amoral Scumbag wants to keep repeating this lie because he had inside information of what Kennedy thought.

    I bet it had NOTHING to do with his decision one way or the other either last year or this year.

    Certainly if you don’t like Trump’s behavior it hasn’t changed since last year, so this is another obvious Amoral Scumbag fantasy.

  262. BayernFan says:

    And tell me why we should care why Kennedy retired? I figure because he is 85 years old or whatever…. but does it matter?

  263. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:22 pm
    “so much so robbie had to tag cg to troll”
    -Trolling Trolling Trolling
    Keep those incorrect speculations extolling!

    – Unlike you, at least I’m willing to speculate. All you do is dream about the RAISE Act being enacted.

  264. CG says:

    What use is it comparing his numbers today to those in January when we can compare his numbers today with those from early June?

    He might be a couple points more popular today than January or February? Well, perhaps, but he is about 5 points less popular than he was in early June.

  265. jason says:

    Trump has dropped in the polls over the past two weeks. I believe the border controversy and the back and forth over tariffs are the likely reasons.”

    Ahh, so you want to move the goalposts to “tariffs” now.

    I don’t know, I haven’t seen a survey about the tariffs.

    But your original comment above, that his JA had dropped “because of the immigration issue” is BS.

    Here it is one more time:

    “The survey suggests that the recent controversy over the president’s decision to separate children from their parents at the border has had little effect either way.”

    Is it clear enough for you now.

    LITTLE EFFECT EITHER WAY.

  266. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:28 pm
    CG conveniently left out the CNBC poll.
    Why?
    Because he and Amoral Scumbag were hardest hit by the last sentence.
    “For the first time since President Donald Trump took office, the CNBC All-America Economic Survey shows more than half the public approving his handling of the economy, and it appears to be having some impact on his overall job approval rating.

    – I have repeatedly said Trump should focus every bit of his energy on touting the economy because it is a real success story for him to take to the voters. You know this, but it’s easier for you to be a fraud.

  267. BayernFan says:

    If a 4 point drop in JA is the result of last week’s hysterics overvthe border, then I’d say the media failed miserably, and Trump is in real good shape.

  268. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:30 pm
    Barrett and Larsen are relatively young women. Barrett is 46, Larsen is 49. Both were confirmed last year to the Circuit Court with 55 and 60 votes respectively. Both would be slam dunks for confirmation.

    – Right now, I would probably favor Amy Coney Barrett. Trump would be politically smart to put a woman on the Court.

  269. CG says:

    I said Trump had a bad week, last week. (while saying Democrats are having an even worse week this week, and I don’t need polling data to tell me Democrats are having a really bad week).

    You are the one moving goalposts, as you always do. I never said Trump’s bad week was *only* about the border, but that was part of it. The fact that so many Republican elected officials and others, such as religious leaders, publicly criticized the policy and called on him to change it (which he did) was indicative of his Administration feeling political pressure and changing course because of it.

    The pressure also should be put on regarding the dangerous tariff policy.

  270. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:32 pm
    Amoral Scumbag wants the Democrats to win the Senate because he hates Trump.

    – A total lie, but that’s what Jason fraud has been reduced to these days.

    I want Republicans to hold onto control of the Senate precisely because of judges.

    Fraud’s gotta fraud.

  271. Mr.Vito says:

    The polls that include mainly the first 14 days of June

    -14, -19, -11, -9, -17, -12, -6, -12, -11, -15, -11, -6, -1,

    The polls since then:

    -5, -10, -13, -8, -9, -9, -6, -14, -9, -6, -9

  272. CG says:

    The CNBC poll, in its data, pre-dates every other poll cited above it on RCP.

    So, maybe the more current data is more reflective of this snapshot in time, but if you want to insist that a 41 percent JA is “good”, be my guest.

  273. jason says:

    I think Trump’s JA SHOULD drop because of the stupid tariffs.

    But I have no evidence it has.

  274. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    Not a single Republican Senator supported his separation policy.”

    – Facts are facts. That’s why Trump backed down on the separation issue. Even Mark Meadows didn’t like the policy. It was a bad week for Trump. This week has probably been the best of his presidency.

  275. Phil says:

    272

    Hell has frozen over as we finally agree on something.

  276. Robbie says:

    Jeff G. says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:33 pm
    According to FiveThirtyEight, on July 15, 2016, Democrats were poised to retake the House with a an average advantage of +6.2% on the generic ballot. Take a look at RCP’s generic number today. (Hint: The margin is the same.) Will the final result be different? We’ll see in a little over four months.

    – The difference being though that no professional who followed the House predicted Democrats would win control because Democrats didn’t even field candidates in a lot of races. This time they have fielded candidates in every race they possibly could have a chance.

  277. jason says:

    but if you want to insist that a 41 percent JA is “good”, be my guest.”

    Wow, what intellectual dishonesty.

    I didn’t say it was good, I said it was an improvement.

    And of course, you are too dishonest to quote the entire story which is is:

    His overall approving rating rose 2 points to 41 percent from the first quarter survey, but the percentage of Americans who disapprove dropped 10 points to 47 percent, the lowest recorded by CNBC during his presidency. Trump’s approval rating remains negative, at minus 6, but it’s also the lowest negative rating recorded since he took office.”

    THE LOWEST NEGATIVE RATING RECORDED SINCE HE TOOK OFFICE.

    I know that hurts, deal with it.

    The facts don’t fit your fake narrative, that is the problem.

  278. mnw says:

    Trump’s hawkish views on trade & tariffs are the ONLY thing (that I know of) where he’s been consistent throughout his entire career.

  279. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:36 pm
    The notion that this vacancy took Trump by surprise is beyond delusional.

    – It depends on how you define surprise. Did they think he might retire? Yes. Did they think it was a 100% guarantee he would retire? No.

    My point was I seriously doubt Trump had already made a pick as Phil suggested might be the case. Even Kennedy’s colleagues weren’t told until after the session ended today.

  280. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:39 pm
    There is no way the Kennedy vacancy was a surprise. Kennedy has been on retirement watch for two years now. Think the Trump administration hasn’t been gaming out a successor. Get real.

    – See what I wrote in 283.

  281. jason says:

    t was a bad week for Trump.”

    Ah yes, Amoral Scumbag endorses CG’s fake narrative.

    What a surprise.

    It was actually a damm good week for Trump, because the MSM fake news on the fake immigration issue, despite 24/7 coverage, didn’t move the fact most Republicans actually supported Obama/Trump’s policy and only moonbats pretended to be outraged.

  282. Phil says:

    I would look forward to Democrats on the judiciary committee going after Barrett again on her Catholic religion. Could they be that deranged?

    Absolutely.

  283. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:47 pm
    272
    Hell has frozen over as we finally agree on something.

    – We agree on almost every issue because we’re both conservatives. We disagree about Trump and whether his “style” has been good for the party. And even when it comes to immigration, I support zero tolerance. I just don’t support the wall though.

  284. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:51 pm
    Trump’s hawkish views on trade & tariffs are the ONLY thing (that I know of) where he’s been consistent throughout his entire career.

    – 100% correct.

  285. jason says:

    Btw, I have plenty of differences on immigration policy with Trump.

    I certainly don’t support a physical wall (except in some areas) and I want to see immigration reform that includes a DACA deal.

    But I know a fake MSM story when I see one, and this entire “separation” meme was complete garbage.

  286. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:56 pm
    I would look forward to Democrats on the judiciary committee going after Barrett again on her Catholic religion. Could they be that deranged?
    Absolutely.

    – They already tried that for the circuit court. Failed miserably.

  287. jason says:

    We agree on almost every issue because we’re both conservatives.”

    Amoral Scumbag is as much a conservative as Trump is a free trader.

  288. jason says:

    Trump’s hawkish views on trade & tariffs are the ONLY thing (that I know of) where he’s been consistent throughout his entire career.”

    Wow.

    Is that like saying that the only thing Hitler was consistent throughout his entire career was hatred of Jews?

    “Consistency” is not necessarily good.

    In Trump’s case it just shows he hasn’t evolved a mistaken belief that you “win” trade wars.

  289. CG says:

    If I would have used that analogy….

  290. Phil says:

    Newsflash – I am not a fan of Trump’s style either. Almost no one is. I just don’t buy into the MSM’s fake “outrage” about all things Trump. I remember how they treated Reagan and Bush. They hate Republicans. Period. Besides, I like Trump’s policies on just about everything but trade and the Korean summit. He has done a great job on reversing just about everything Obama. I DO wish he would shut the hell up on things he doesn’t need to be stirring up – such as MCCain’s war record. On the other hand his poking CNN and the rest of the fraud media is fine by me.

  291. dblaikie says:

    The Liberal meltdown going on over the vacancy in Supreme Court is amazing reading. The only bad thing is that these people are so deranged that someone is going to get killed. What cracks me up is that the talking heads think this is going to energize the dems. They have forgotten history there is nothing that gins up Conservative support more than the Supreme Court. It is imperative that we strengthen our majority in the Senate. It won’t be long before Ginsberg throws in the towel and if that happens the court will be conservative for the next 25 years. My blood is boiling to VOTE!!!!

  292. Mr.Vito says:

    Foxnews

    “[Schumer has] demanded that the Senate’s top Republican, Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, abide by the so-called Biden Rule when deciding to commence proceedings to confirm a Supreme Court pick.”

    Wasn’t that for Presidential election years?

  293. jason says:

    I never said Trump’s bad week was *only* about the border,”

    Nahhh…..

    “Trump has dropped several points in all polls, including Rasmussen and Gallup since the Children as Pawns at the Border policy was unveiled.”

    How come you ONLY mentioned the “border” issue if you thought there were others?

  294. jason says:

    Wasn’t that for Presidential election years?”

    Yes.

    But of course if the situation was reversed, the Dems would certainly abide by it, right?

  295. Phil says:

    296.

    The Biden rule was for presidential years.

    Chuckie can demand all he wants. Will look forward to Democrats throwing their fit. Popcorn.

  296. Mr.Vito says:

    Schumer…

    “The Senate should reject on a bipartisan basis any justice who would overturn Roe v. Wade,” he said, adding that the justice should not come from Trump’s previous list of 25 potential justices the president compiled with the help of the Federalist Society during the search for late Justice Antonin Scalia’s replacement.”

  297. mnw says:

    Whether consistency is good or bad, Trump’s views on trade/intellectual property/China’s fundamental dishonesty will never change, imo.

    That is the hill he will die on if necessary, imo.

  298. jason says:

    ayernFan says:
    June 27, 2018 at 4:11 pm

    McCAin should be dead in 1-3 months”

    Truly disgusting, repulsive and revolting statement.

    Talk about been deranged and unhinged if you have that much hatred.

    Pathetic.

  299. Phil says:

    Ok, Chuckie. We will take your sage advice under advisement…….lol

  300. jason says:

    “The Senate should reject on a bipartisan basis any justice who would overturn Roe v. Wade,”

    Actually, I agree with this. I would prefer a justice that upholds Roe vs. Wade.

    However, elections have consequences.

    And Schumer has no right to “demand” a damm thing.

  301. CG says:

    Do the “McCain should be dead soon” posts rise to the level of the “Amoral Scumbag” label?

    Take a stance.

  302. mnw says:

    Schumer has always been there with helpful advice for GOP presidents on their SCOTUS nominees. I recall when Schumer handed out a list of 25 Republicans* the DEMs could support when Robert’s seat came open.

    * Schumer said they were Republicans.

  303. CG says:

    “I would prefer a justice that upholds Roe vs. Wade.”

    Talk about Hillary-Lite!

    In fact, you can scrap the Lite.

  304. jason says:

    Is there a black latina conservative judge Trump could nominate?

    That would be fun to see the Dems trying to destroy her.

    Has Schumer endorsed Trump’s sister yet?

  305. Mr.Vito says:

    Will McCain not be dead in 1-3 months?

    Good news.

  306. Phil says:

    Chuckie just trying to be his usual helpful self.

    The Biden Rule….talk about a reach.

  307. jason says:

    “I would prefer a justice that upholds Roe vs. Wade.”

    Talk about Hillary-Lite!

    In fact, you can scrap the Lite”

    Hey Bitter, I have just been called Hillary.

    This is getting boring, its hard to gather up the incentive to get more points.

  308. BayernFan says:

    Ummm… my point is that McCAin is not likely going to be with us when the nominee is voted on. He has glioblastoma multiforma, correct? You folks are such snowflakes.

  309. CG says:

    How are we to know when McCain will be dead?

    Any one of us could be dead in 1-3 months.

    The statement was that McCain *should* be dead. I don’t think he should, nor do I think anyone here should, even the Amoral Deplorables.

  310. Chicon says:

    199 – what is missing is any semblance of a plan to encourage other countries to engage in free trade with the US. If there’s no plan (or ability) to do so, removing tariffs as a weapon is unilateral disarmament.

  311. jason says:

    The fact I think abortion should be legal at least for first trimester has been known here for what, over 10 years.

    I do oppose partial birth abortions (or any abortion of viable fetuses) and taxpayer funding for abortion and support restrictions such as parental consent, waiting periods, etc.

    So if that makes me “Hillar”, so be it.

  312. CG says:

    Nobody types that statement and says “should” unless they are looking for precisely that kind of response.

  313. Phil says:

    How about a black, Latino, Jewish, transgender conservative judge?

    Perfect.

  314. CG says:

    -jason, if you think killing babies is ok, that is your right. A lot of people do.

    But you seemed to suggest that Senators would be correct to vote against the nominee unless they take a stance of defending Roe v. Wade.

    You said that Schumer should not demand that but you seemed to suggest that Senators should vote a certain way because of that.

    Maybe you misspoke.

  315. mnw says:

    BF

    You don’t get it! Posting about Hitler; Jews; & Trump in one post is… tasteful & decorous!

    Stating an obvious fact about Saint John is just… well, I never!

  316. jason says:

    removing tariffs as a weapon is unilateral disarmament.”

    Nice straw argument, but we are not “removing” tariffs, Trump is unilaterally implementing blanket tariffs.

    And of course, “the weapon” part is already proven to be garbage.

    Unless you say that you oppose Trump implementing tariffs, you only approve of “threats” to do so.

  317. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    254. “I know you’re cool with anything Trump says or does, but Kennedy chose not to retire last year because of Trump’s behavior. You can either accept that or be like your boy Chris McDaniel who still hasn’t conceded his 2014 Senate race to Thad Cochran.”

    Robbie, you made a fool of yourself stating that Kennedy would not retire from the Supreme Court because of Trump, and a short time later Kennedy does retire. Now you insist that Trump did not retire last year because of Trump, based on what a radio commentator said. Do you realized how dumb you sound?

    You need reliable documentation to make the claims you do; otherwise it is pure speculation. At least state what you hear is a rumor, and needs to be verified. Putin’s bots are more reliable sources than you.

  318. BayernFan says:

    Wow you ARE a special snowflake, CG. Yeah McCAin should be dead in 1-3 months. He has glioblastoma multiforma (colloquially referred to as “Good Bye Muddah Phuqqa in the oncology biz).

    Now go find a paper bag.

  319. Mr.Vito says:

    Bayern, do you have cancer?

  320. CG says:

    If Bayern has cancer, I will have to consider that his thoughts on this topic might have a different dimension.

  321. jason says:

    But you seemed to suggest that Senators would be correct to vote against the nominee unless they take a stance of defending Roe v. Wade.”

    Not suggesting that at all.

    I said I would prefer a Justice that did not reverse Roe vs. Wade. My personal preference.

    But I also said elections have consequences, so that if the majority of Rs (or a majority of the Senate) confirm a justice that does reverse Roe vs. Wade, Schumer is sh-t out of luck.

  322. lisab says:

    And even when it comes to immigration, I support zero tolerance. I just don’t support the wall though.
    ————————–

    zero tolerance except keeping illegal immigrants out

  323. CG says:

    -jason, you seem to be saying that while Schumer s hould not demand it, you would prefer or take no issue with Senators voting their own conscience strictly on Roe v. Wade.

    Well, the current Senate is majority pro-choice. If they do that, Trump’s nominee, unless they cite loyalty to the Roe v. Wade decision (which would anger a whole lot of other people and generate a lot of no votes) would fail.

    If you want a conservative justice for other issues, you have to expect that the person nominated will not express loyalty to keeping Roe v Wade (they will say as they always do that they cannot comment on matters that might come before the Court)and be willing to deal with that potential consequence.

    I know none of us here are very important, but what you said would give complete ammunition to Schumer and the liberals to try to torpedo the nomination.

    You should prefer that the Senators do not even consider Roe v. Wade when casting their Yes or No vote.

  324. jason says:

    Posting about Hitler; Jews; & Trump in one post is”

    Sounds horrible, huh? But you are a lying fraud.

    If you actually read my post, I didn’t compare Trump to Hitler.

    I made the point that “consistency” could be bad and then I specifically stated that in Trump’s case (exact words) it had to do with his failure to evolve on protectionism.

    So take your fake interpretation and GFY.

  325. lisab says:

    Is that like saying that the only thing Hitler was consistent throughout his entire career was hatred of Jews?
    ——————-

    actually, there is a story that old adolph was once infatuated with a jewish girl as a teenager

  326. Robbie says:

    Bloomberg reports that Brett Kavanaugh has become the early favorite to be chosen by Trump. That’s according to two sources.

    I would wholeheartedly support the selection of Kavanaugh. If the reporting is true. Trump should announce the selection Monday and allow McConnell to fast track the process.

  327. CG says:

    Whomever, the choice, announce it tomorrow morning on Fox and Friends and have the nominee and Steve Doocy race around Times Square in robes on a pretend judicial bench.

  328. jason says:

    jason, if you think killing babies is ok, ”

    Zzzzz…. if I thought a first semester fetus was a “baby”, I would have a different view.

    But I don’t.

  329. jason says:

    “You should prefer that the Senators do not even consider Roe v. Wade when casting their Yes or No vote.”

    Fair enough, you make a persuasive argument.

    I was expressing my personal preference, I am ok with it not being considered.

  330. mnw says:

    I didn’t say jason “compared Hitler to Trump.” Strawmen are us for jason. Always.

    I think that jason’s post was in poor taste (imagine that), but that’s all.

  331. CG says:

    Well, a first semester or trimester fetus definitely isn’t a llama. I think it’s a baby. It’s how we all started out once upon a time.

  332. jason says:

    First trimester, not first semester.

  333. CG says:

    Thank you for acknowledging my persuasion. I tried to give you an out on your statement. Had you been an actual elected Republican official, that would have been a “gaffe.”

  334. mnw says:

    I didn’t know Flake was on the Judiciary Committee. Troubling.

  335. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    June 27, 2018 at 5:53 pm
    I didn’t know Flake was on the Judiciary Committee. Troubling.

    – He won’t vote against any pick.

  336. Mr.Vito says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3357662/Woman-charged-attempted-murder-failed-abortion.html

    “Her boyfriend took her to the hospital where doctors delivered a 24-week-old baby weighing just 1.5 pounds”

    “Doctors told investigators the child will need medical support for the rest of his life because of the injuries he sustained.”

    She should have gone to the clinic where they could dismember it properly. Then it would not be injured.

  337. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    June 27, 2018 at 5:47 pm
    Whomever, the choice, announce it tomorrow morning on Fox and Friends and have the nominee and Steve Doocy race around Times Square in robes on a pretend judicial bench.

    – Not out of the realm of possibilities.

  338. jason says:

    I think that jason’s post was in poor taste”

    LOL

    mnw defends a disgusting, revolting, sick, and hateful comment on McCain, but finds my very non-offensive comment in “poor taste”.

    I love this place.

  339. Mr.Vito says:

    “disgusting, revolting, sick, and hateful comment on McCain…”

    One more adjective and you would have had me.

  340. jason says:

    Had you been an actual elected Republican official, that would have been a “gaffe.”

    Believe me, if I were an actual Republican official, I would be a lot more careful with a lot of my comments.

    In any case, you should have quit when you were ahead. I never said I favored used Roe vs. Wade as a criteria for confirming anyone.

  341. jason says:

    One more adjective and you would have had me.”

    Repulsive?

  342. Cash Cow TM says:

    Tariffs

    If farts
    ****************
    Want you to know that Cow has turned down the offer by DJT to be first bovine to be appointed to SCOTUS.

    I DID mention to Trump that former president Obama studied constitutional law and mayhe DJT should consider appointing him…and then we both laughed hysterically until Trump peed himself and milk shot out my nose.

  343. jason says:

    Yeah, I don’t think Flake will oppose a qualified conservative.

    Jeanine Pirro? Yes.

  344. NYCmike says:

    “Trump didn’t back down on the separation issue just for fun. He had lost his own party on this issue. Not a single Senator supported the issue.”

    -You are still looking at things thru the lens of a normal politician who must fear negative press, as opposed to this guy who will fight as dirty as they do.

  345. Chicon says:

    320 – how would you go about lowering the tariffs imposed against US products? Or would you advocate doing nothing?

    I’ve asked you this several times to no avail.

  346. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie and CG;
    Two new polls just blew a big hole thru your theory that The Donald’s approval/disapproval ratings are dropping due to the immigration issue.
    Harvard-Harris has Trump’s approval/disapproval at 47/53,respectively and the weekly Reuters/Ipsos Tracking Poll at 45/51.
    Also, Reuters/Ipsos has the Generic Congressional Ballot at D+3.

    https://www.slideshare.net/IpsosPublicAffairs/reutersipsos-data-core-political-06272018

  347. jason says:

    Ted Cruz?

    Yeah, Flake will not vote for him.

  348. Mr.Vito says:

    ” Or would you advocate doing nothing? ”

    WE ARE WINNING!

    (ha ha… couldn’t resist)

  349. Cash Cow TM says:

    On the good news front…Germany has been
    eliminated from world cup soccer.

    Now if we could just find a way to
    eliminate all the rest of the nations of the world.

    Traveling…on the road to northern Wisco…

  350. jason says:

    Don’t bother Sheeple.

    They have read the MSM “bad week” garbage and of course are anxious to regurgitate it here.

    Everyone here already knew there was no “bad week”.

  351. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Have there been any leaks regarding Pete “The Cheat” Stroak’s testimony today?

  352. CG says:

    Maybe Bayern is upset and lashing out at John McCain because he is upset that his German footballers are embarrassingly out?

    For his sake, I hope so. It’s better than the other theory that he has cancer himself.

  353. lisab says:

    Some forecasting pros suggest the U.S. economy could top 5% growth in the period running from April to June, perhaps clearing the highest bar in 15 years.

    After a surprising drop in the U.S. trade deficit in May, a handful of Wall Street firms jacked up their estimates for the second quarter and more are likely to do so.

    Most notably, Macroeconomic Advisers raised its forecast to 5.3% from 4.5% for gross domestic product, the official scorecard for the U.S. economy. The firm’s forecast is one of the most detailed on Wall Street.

    A closely followed GDP tracker by the Atlanta Federal Reserve, meanwhile, estimates the U.S. will expand at a 4.5% annual rate in the second quarter.

  354. lisab says:

    Dems Melt Down Over Kennedy Retirement

    The DNC rules committee was on a live call when the news broke that Justice Anthony Kennedy would retire at the end of July.

    The news of Justice Kennedy’s retirement interrupted a DNC committee conference call on Wednesday, prompting audible sounds of anguish from the Democratic leaders.

    “Justice Anthony Kennedy has just announced that he’s retiring,” one person told the group.

    “Ohhhh!” one person yelled out.

    “Oh my God,” another exclaimed.

  355. Mr.Vito says:

    Maybe they meant bada$$ week. 8)

  356. jason says:

    r would you advocate doing nothing?”

    I have answered this many times.

    But you think doing “something” mean tariffs, when actually there is nothing new, smart or effective about tariffs, they are older than hills and don’t work, except to transfer the costs to consumers and depress overall economic activity.

    The way you compete in a globalized economy (and it is a globalized economy) is to have competitive industries, products and services that other countries want to buy. It also means recognizing you are not going to be competitive on everything, you compete on the basis of your strengths.

    So the US should have pro-business policies that stimulate investment, research, innovation. Good tax policy, sensible regulations. That will be much more effective than trying to placate big labor and protect a few jobs here and there. A pro business, pro-investment policy will create products, technologies and services we can market, much better than protectionism and isolationism.

    All tariffs do is represent a tax hike on consumers. While they may artificially protect a limited amount of jobs, they will cost more because of the retaliatory measures by other countries, so the net is always going to be negative.

    Putting a bandaid on your head for a headache might be “doing something”, but its not going to cure the headache.

  357. lisab says:

    on reddit politics

    they are posting a suicide hotline number

    on the kennedy thread

  358. Mr.Vito says:

    I think jason is saying he wants to enforce existing law.

  359. Mr.Vito says:

    “they are posting a suicide hotline number

    on the kennedy thread”

    I think Wobbles will be posting shortly.

  360. jason says:

    “Ohhhh!” one person yelled out.

    “Oh my God,” another exclaimed.”

    Is that what it takes for Democrats to start believing in God?

  361. Mr.Vito says:

    “Is that what it takes for Democrats to start believing in God?”

    Maybe the person was overhearing Bill Clinton with an intern…

  362. jason says:

    Maybe a bill should be introduced that allows Democrats to be legally euthanized if they cannot deal with the Kennedy retirement.

    Just trying to be helpful, I hate to see such suffering.

  363. Phil says:

    Chelsea Clinton gives interview in the Guardian in which she urges Brits to demonstrate against Trump when he visits Great Britain.

    Lovely.

  364. jason says:

    They are unhinged over at Kos.

    They already have a petition to STOP TRUMP’S APPOINTEE”….

    And one of the threads is:

    “Kennedy’s retirement is the end of civil rights at the Supreme Court”

  365. jason says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    June 27, 2018 at 6:28 pm

    I think jason is saying he wants to enforce existing law.”

    Well it depends on the law.

    I am against the law that says llama milk cheese should be made with pasteurized milk.

  366. lisab says:

    So could someone tell me why Kennedy can’t wait until midterms to retire, with the fate of this country hanging in the balance?

  367. lisab says:

    Court Stacking. They already threw away any expectation of norms when they blocked Obama putting in Garland. If the left ever gets control again, we need to add like 10 ideologically aligned judges.

  368. Mr.Vito says:

    “So could someone tell me why Kennedy can’t wait until midterms to retire, with the fate of this country hanging in the balance?”

    He’s doing it as a rebuke to Trump.

    If he had done it after the midterms, or if he changes his mind now, it is also a rebuke to Trump.

  369. Mr.Vito says:

    “They already threw away any expectation of norms when they blocked Obama putting in Garland.”

    They were just following the Biden rule.

  370. JulStol says:

    LisaB,
    “on reddit politics

    they are posting a suicide hotline number

    on the kennedy thread”

    Link, please?

  371. Phil says:

    Democrats now talking about grinding the Senate to a halt with procedural votes and other parliamentary procedures to prevent a fall vote on Kennedy’s successor.

    Try to picture how this would play in the fall election. Now smile.

    Democrats are stark raving mad. I thought GOP dead enders were politically tone deaf. These people are in such a leftist bubble that they have just lost their minds. Of course, to be in that bubble in the first place tells you all you need to know about their sanity or lack of it.

  372. Mr.Vito says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/eighth-arrest-made-stabbing-15-164226171.html

    “Elvin Garcia, 23, of the Bronx was taken into custody Tuesday night for the murder of Lesandro “Junior” Guzman-Feliz, who was filmed being pulled out of the store by a group of men on June 20 who then slashed him to death on the sidewalk….

    …Kevin Alvarez, 19, was arrested over the weekend in New York and charged with second-degree murder, manslaughter, gang assault and assault.

    Six suspects were arrested in Paterson, New Jersey, on Sunday. They have been identified as Jose Taverez, 21, Manuel Rivera, 18, Danel Fernandez, 21, and Santiago Rodriguez, 24, all of the Bronx; Jose Muniz, 21, of Paterson; Joniki Martinez, 24, of Freeport, New York.

    The suspects are believed to be members of the Dominican gang, Trinitarios…”

  373. Tina says:

    According to meet the liberal depressed host, Rs cannot do anything now since it’s an election year.

    The eyes or whatever his name is must be stupid.

    It is the last year of a presidents term, not the midterm.

    Obumbler got a leftist its appointed in 2010

  374. Tina says:

    Jebot said that trump had a bad week, his polls are down 3

    Sounds like noise.

    Especially since, he is at 53 in the state of Florida.

    2/3rds want the wall and or immediate deportation.

    Very poor numbers for catch and release an illegal drat voter.

  375. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Here is a summary of Pete “The Cheat” Strzok testimony today:

    https://saraacarter.com/grilled-strzok-questioned-by-lawmakers/

    It sounds like a big waste of time.The Cheat mostly hid behind “classified information” claims.

  376. jason says:

    I wish people who knew what they were talking about like Paul Ryan would push back harder against the AFL-CIO agenda.

    “House Speaker Paul Ryan called President Donald Trump’s tariffs “basically taxes” on Tuesday — a day after Wisconsin-based Harley-Davidson said it would move some motorcycle production overseas because of retaliatory penalties from the European Union.

    “I think tariffs are basically taxes,” the Wisconsin Republican said during a press conference with House GOP leaders. “What ends up happening is you get escalating tariffs or escalating taxes.”

    Ryan said Trump’s imposing of tariffs on steel and aluminum imports could eventually wipe out any benefits companies gained by the president’s tax cuts.

    “One of the reasons we did tax reform was to make it easier for businesses to keep manufacturing in America and export overseas,” Ryan said.

  377. Mr.Vito says:

    Schumer is now saying that Trump cannot pick a SCOTUS replacement this year, because it is the year of the dog, which is the same year as Trump’s birth. Also 7 is an unlucky number for dogs. He will surely offend Tai Sui.

  378. Phil says:

    Kamala Harris just told Chris Mathews that Democrats will stop any vote from taking place this fall by various means (I am paraphrasing).

    As many on here know, I feel Kamala Karris is the favorite to be the next POTUS so I always listen to what she has to say and take her seriously.

    Should be interesting to see how they try and pull this off.

  379. Chicon says:

    “So the US should have pro-business policies that stimulate investment, research, innovation. Good tax policy, sensible regulations. That will be much more effective than trying to placate big labor and protect a few jobs here and there. A pro business, pro-investment policy will create products, technologies and services we can market, much better than protectionism and isolationism”

    Where’s the part about what actually get China to not add tariffs to US steel or cars; or get Canada to lower the huge tariffs on US dairy?

  380. Tina says:

    Well, it is as expected sheeple. Pete the cheat is under criminal investigation,

  381. Mr.Vito says:

    House rejects second GOP immigration bill

    “The House rejected a Republican compromise bill on immigration Wednesday in a worse-than-expected 121-300 vote, effectively ending a months-long GOP drama that had put the conference’s internal politics on display.

    The measure won far fewer GOP votes than a more hard-line measure rejected last week in a 193-231 vote.”

  382. Mr.Vito says:

    RNC ad: The left has never been as unhinged as they are right now.

    Justice Kennedy: “Hold my beer.”

  383. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    A comment from a Democrat:

    “It’s one gut punch after another right now, Folks.”

  384. mnw says:

    AF One just landed in Fargo.

    What excellent timing! I love this guy. Anybody really think Heidi will vote no? What did he carry ND by, 50 points? And she’s already behind Cramer in the most recent polls?

  385. mnw says:

    I am almost sure he’ll appoint a CCA judge– because, already confirmed once. Smaller target.

  386. Tina says:

    So, if it’s one gut punch after another, then trump is having great weeks, not bad ones.

    Muh kids.

    The violence

    The court decisions and Kennedy.

  387. Tina says:

    Forgot to add Fuhrer Mulehead is defanged.

    The Russian troll farms lawyer is giving him a lot of trouble. Mulehead passed the case on to 4 Drats from the Department of Just Me.

  388. Cash Cow TM says:

    Msnbc radoo this evening was pitiful.
    Melting down over Kennedy retirement

    Saying a conservative replacment judge
    will rurn the clock back 100+ years on
    Womens rights, black rights, LBGTLMNOPQ
    rights….

  389. Tina says:

    Fargo rally time.

  390. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “I am almost sure he’ll appoint a CCA judge– because, already confirmed once. Smaller target.”

    Makes sense.

  391. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    394. “LBGTLMNOPQ”

    Cow, if your wondering. I have no idea what the letters stand for either. Looks like a vision test.

  392. Tina says:

    Rich Lowry
    Rich Lowry
    @RichLowry
    It’s funny how life works–Donald Trump may end up being the biggest boon to constitutional fidelity in a generation
    12:07 PM · Jun 27, 2018

    Wow, Lowry was never trump for a long time., He must now be for trump,

    Trumps approval among Rs is 90 plus.

  393. lisab says:

    LisaB,
    “on reddit politics
    they are posting a suicide hotline number
    on the kennedy thread”
    Link, please?
    —————————————-

    Please, to anyone who is thinking about the doing the unimaginable, know that there are still people who care about you.
    National Suicide Prevention Lifeline: 800-273-TALK (8255)
    permalinkembedsavereportgive goldREPLY

    https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/8uby4h/megathread_justice_anthony_kennedy_to_retire_from/?sort=top&limit=500

  394. NYCmike says:

    Lost in all of jason’s yapping about tariffs, most of which I agree with IN PRINCIPLE, is the fact that Trump, and members of his administration have spoken many times in the past several months about lowering any and all forms of taxes, including tariffs.

    He has advocated and succeeded in lowering taxes and cutting regulations.

    Tariffs are the next obstacle.

  395. NYCmike says:

    Lowry is right on…….and once again, the other #NeverTrumpers REFUSE to adjust to the actions taken by the President and his administration.

    I held open a small chance for 58, if everything goes right.

    I will have to take another look at that number.

  396. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    BREAKING: An Hawaiian District Judge and the Ninth Circuit Court have just granted a permanent injunction against Anthony Kennedy’s resignation from SCOTUS until after POTUS45 leaves office!

  397. NYCmike says:

    Ted Cruz pumping up Mike Lee as a replacement for Kennedy.

    I would not be against that, although in today’s world, colors, races, religions, etc will have some weight.

    Everything, except the idea that the Constitution is “a living, breathing object”.

  398. NYCmike says:

    “House rejects second GOP immigration bill”

    -Does anyone have any details about either bill that was voted down?

  399. Diamond Jim says:

    399 – Thanks for the link. I was looking for something to cheer me up.

  400. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/06/27/lets-make-it-happen-hey-donald-trump-weve-got-your-next-scotus-nominee/

    -Robbie, you would do better by listening to the President himself, instead of doing all of your speculating, most of which is garbage.

  401. Phil says:

    I have never seen Chris Mathews so unhappy as he was today. He was absolutely suicidal.

  402. NYCmike says:

    That Reddit thread is really scary.

    The people there link to a quote from someone like Clarence Thomas, and then opine that it says something which is totally in contrast to what Thomas actually said…….boggles the mind!

  403. Tina says:

    A Florida Republican , aka Rino, sponsored it.

    Had amnesty for 2.5 million.

  404. NYCmike says:

    Looked at Author’s and MD’s Twitter.

    MD – dormant since June 5th. That’s a record for him to shut his trap!

    Author – besides saying that Caddyshack was a terrible movie, which defies all common sense, he is also saying things like this: “I decided to take a closer looks at Trump’s consistent unpopularity and how it could cost the GOP in November.”

  405. Tina says:

    Bill Shine to be trumps comm director?

  406. Robbie says:

    There’s only one name on Trump’s list of nominees that I would find very disappointing and it’s the same one I to which I objected in 2017. Thomas Hardiman. He’s got Souter written all over him. Rick Santorum is pushing him.

  407. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 27, 2018 at 6:02 pm
    Ted Cruz?
    Yeah, Flake will not vote for him.

    – I disagree. Flake doesn’t like Trump. Flake still likes conservatism. Flake would see voting for Cruz as conservative and also getting a roadblock out of the Senate.

  408. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    June 27, 2018 at 6:28 pm
    “they are posting a suicide hotline number
    on the kennedy thread”
    I think Wobbles will be posting shortly.

    – This really stupid considering I have long said the judges Trump has nominated have been great. Oh and I also support conservative judges. But carry on.

  409. jason says:

    He has advocated and succeeded in lowering taxes and cutting regulations.

    Tariffs are the next obstacle.”

    I see. He is implementing massive tariffs, inviting massive retaliation, for the purpose of lowering tariffs.

    This is absolutely brilliant. Did he tell his tariff loving fat cat union boss friends, they don’t want lower tariffs…

    Also, his tax cut benefits will be wiped out by the stupid trade wars, which just translate into a tax hike.

  410. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    June 27, 2018 at 8:16 pm
    https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/06/27/lets-make-it-happen-hey-donald-trump-weve-got-your-next-scotus-nominee/
    -Robbie, you would do better by listening to the President himself, instead of doing all of your speculating, most of which is garbage.

    – You would do better if you didn’t constantly support senate candidates who lose safe seats.

  411. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    June 27, 2018 at 8:21 pm
    I have never seen Chris Mathews so unhappy as he was today. He was absolutely suicidal.

    – Only moment comparable was his meltdown after Obama’s first debate with Romney.

  412. Mr.Vito says:

    “This really stupid considering I have long said the judges…”

    Are you ‘Wobbles’?

    Damn, you’re stupid.

  413. Wobbles says:

    BREAKING: An Hawaiian District Judge and the Ninth Circuit Court have just granted a permanent injunction against Anthony Kennedy’s resignation from SCOTUS until after POTUS45 leaves office!”

    Thank God!

  414. Mr.Vito says:

    Wobbles!

  415. jason says:

    Frankly, it would be more significant if Trump could replace one of the 4 liberal justices.

    I know Kennedy is hated by deadenders because he is not 100% litmus tested pure, but he is a pretty reliable conservative vote.

    So yes, his replacement will be more conservative, unless Trump nominates his sister, but the liberals are overwrought.

  416. Tina says:

    I think they have several candidates in mind. Grassley has been preparing for this for months.

    Mitchie is in combat mode, prolly pissed that the la raza goons tried to attack him, lucky, his wife got in their faces.

    She looked like she coukd take those illegals.

  417. Gpo says:

    I read somewhere that this is the first term in ages that there was not one 5-4 decision in which it was Kennedy and the 4 libs

  418. Tina says:

    And the jebots wanted Hillary to chose the SC picks.

  419. jason says:

    Lost in all of jason’s yapping about tariffs, most of which I agree with IN PRINCIPLE…”

    Breaking news: NYC agrees with most of my yapping IN PRINCIPLE.

    This is obviously a sordid attempt to make me look bad.

  420. Robbie says:

    Jan Crawford of CBS, who is very well sourced on Supreme Court matters, says the three finalists are Kavanaugh, Kathledge, and Thapar. Fred Barnes, who is also well sourced, says those three plus Amy Coney Barrett and Ray Hardiman.

    Hardiman would be a disappointment. The other four are homeruns.

  421. Wobbles says:

    I think Trump’s judicial appointments are very important.

    At least 2% as important as Stormy, and that is saying something!

  422. Tina says:

    Kavanaugh by far is among one of the top picks.

    No Harriet Meyers bush softie types.

    And please do not pick Cruz or lee.

    They are a bit open borders for me.

  423. Weeble says:

    428 – Keep on wobbling buddy!

  424. jason says:

    I hope Trump considers Bitter for SCOTUS.

    He is one of the finest legal minds I have ever had the pleasure to serve with in blog comment management.

  425. Wobbles says:

    I am sure I wouldn’t be the man I am without the steadfast support of Weeble.

  426. Tina says:

    Chris Murphy
    Chris Murphy
    @ChrisMurphyCT
    Let’s call it like it is: the Supreme Court is turning itself into a political arm of the Republican Party. Weakening organized labor, upholding GOP gerrymandering, gutting voting rights laws.
    8:08 AM · Jun 27, 2018

    The four trolls invented law, lead by sotohatewhiteymor and the aclu.

    The blob cited that the ds will now not get the union money, as the basis for her opinion.

  427. jason says:

    Cruz and Lee are open border RINOS?

    Who knew?

    Who will be the last true conservative to turn off the lights?

  428. jason says:

    I wish SCOTUS had opposed Democratic gerrymandering in PA.

  429. jason says:

    The 4 liberals voted against Trump’s travel ban, clearly should have been 9-0, so they can’t whine about “politics”.

  430. Tina says:

    Jennifer Jacobs
    Jennifer Jacobs
    @JenniferJJacobs
    ·
    11m
    “The era of global freeloading and taking advantage of the United States is over,” Trump says on campaign trail in North Dakota, to loud cheers.

    The bushies and the nwoers not happy.

  431. Mr.Vito says:

    “mas de 500 agresiones contra politicos a una semana de la jornada electoral; 130 asesinatos…”

    One week before election day, more than 500 violent acts against politicians; 130 assassinations…

    http://www.etellekt.com/presencia-medios.html

    Maybe jason can double-check my spanish.

  432. mnw says:

    Fargo! 6000! I LOVE this, & you can tell POTUS loves campaigning more than any other aspect of what he does, too.

    I do NOT WANT Lee or Cruz! Too much baggage & too hard to confirm. And I think Lee is wunnerful, but we must keep the train moving!

    Btw, this is a MD election thread. Anyone?

  433. Tina says:

    I guess keep Maxine and Nancy as faces of the Drats replace muh Mikas face.

    Watch Mika and Joe Mika Scarfarce, the woman looks more like the man, and the man looks more like the woman, try to make something out of this.

  434. mnw says:

    This is the most interesting discussion of Maryland elections I’ve ever seen.

    (I keed, Dave, I keed! You know we all (heart) you.)

  435. Tina says:

    Sheeple, goodlatte told fox that Pete the cheat was not credible and did a defacto plead the 5th,

    They should send a criminal referral to doj.

  436. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/baseballcrank/status/1012094078845181952

    The chart should be given to upchuck Todd and the Jebot media.

  437. jason says:

    The Spanish is great, the translation sucks…

    Just kidding… perfect.

  438. jason says:

    “The era of global freeloading and taking advantage of the United States is over,” Trump

    Long live that tired old failed AFL-CIO agenda!

  439. Ron N says:

    I think Trump should continue rally’s kept the base happy. He can afford to do these 2 or 3 times a month. Stay close to the people don’t get lost in DC and he loves doing them and the base feels he stay in touch with them.

  440. lisab says:

    Didn’t JFK pull some crazy stuff when he was faced with a similar situation, I thought he decreased the size of the court, fired a couple of opposing judges, then increased the size again and nominated his own?

  441. jason says:

    For years, we have called attention to the predatory practices of some steel exporting countries. Such practices hurt working people and cheat companies that produce in the U.S. We applaud the administration’s efforts today to fix this problem,” AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said in a statement.”

    On the other hand, dozens of business leaders from the most important economic sectors of the country are denouncing tariffs just a big tax increase on American consumers, and affecting jobs and exports.

    Meanwhile in 2016:

    “As the Wall Street Journal recently reported, organized labor on the whole has spent more money on this election ? steering its cash overwhelmingly to Democratic candidates ? than ever before. Overall, labor unions have donated more than $132 million to super PACs and spent an additional $35 million on federal elections.”

  442. jason says:

    Watch Mika and Joe Mika Scarfarce, the woman looks more like the man, and the man looks more like the woman,”

    I hope they don’t reproduce.

  443. Phil says:

    According to experts on senate parliamentary procedure there is one way to block a confirmation vote. Shut the senate down by denying a quorum. Senate cannot consider anything without 51 senators present – no votes or business. With McCain out if all Democrats refuse to show for the next four months and MCCain gone Republicans cannot muster 51 present.

    The Democratic base is insisting all senate Democrats rally around this strategy.

    Uh, not sure this will play well in ND, Mo, Indiana, Montana, and probably Florida and Ohio as well.

    So the question for Democrats up for re-election in red states is “do you feel lucky punk? Well do ya?’

  444. lisab says:

    You saying “stfu and hold still” while the asset of a foreign government systematically deconstructs this country says it all. I won’t follow or abide any rulings Trump SCOTUS produces. As far as I know that guy is a Russian spy and all his SCOTUS choices must therefore be compromised somehow.

  445. Phil says:

    …..Or WV. LOL

  446. Mr.Vito says:

    “Didn’t JFK pull some crazy stuff when he was faced with a similar situation…”

    I think he just banged some underage girls as usual.

  447. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    446. Agree. Trump is outstanding at his rallies, and really can fire up a crowd. Plus anyone can watch them, as they are broadcast by so many outlets. There is even Trump TV.

    In Fargo thought Trump gave a great explanation for his tariff policy, and how bogus the argument was that we previously had free trade. Like that new steel mills are opening up in the U.S.

  448. Phil says:

    Scarface was really gushing over the Marxist who won her congressional primary last night.

    He is pathetic.

  449. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    453. https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/New-York-Advocate-Sex-Abuse-Survivors-Arrested-FBI-Child-Porn-Child-Sex-Abuse-486633421.html

    “Breaking. Clinton campaign official arrested.”

    Anthony Weiner needs a cellmate.

  450. Phil says:

    …another Democrat who cares about the children.

  451. lisab says:

    Plan is to shut down congress until November then don’t allow a vote on him for the next two years. We are owed a stolen seat and we should take it back. Democracy just got kicked in the balls by these aholes. It’s time we start fighting back.

  452. Tina says:

    Weiners laptop.

    Hidden by comedy and McCabe.

    Remember, the fib agent, crimes against children

  453. Tina says:

    I think 7 new steel plants and we are now the leader in oil production.

  454. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    450. “According to experts on senate parliamentary procedure there is one way to block a confirmation vote. Shut the senate down by denying a quorum. Senate cannot consider anything without 51 senators present – no votes or business. With McCain out if all Democrats refuse to show for the next four months and MCCain gone Republicans cannot muster 51 present. The Democratic base is insisting all senate Democrats rally around this strategy.”

    Sadly, a very strong possibility exists that McCain will not make it until November. If he passes, the Republican governor appoints someone to serve until 2020. Despite current political issues, McCain was an American hero, and deserves respect for his service to his country.

  455. Tina says:

    Fib legal counsel prevented Pete the cheat from answering many questions.

  456. DW says:

    Left unhinged over Kennedy retirement. They need to calm down a little. Imagine if this had been Ruth Ginsburg found like Scalia with a pillow over her head, and Trump got to replace her? As it is, replacing Kennedy will only move the court to the right a little bit…that is IF Trump makes another good pick, and IF that candidate doesn’t get borked.

  457. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    461 “I think 7 new steel plants and we are now the leader in oil production.”

    Also we are a major natural gas exporter now. The Chinese did not place tariffs on LNG, which they badly need. In his Fargo speech, Trump spoke strongly in favor of working out the tariff issue by negotiation. He is initially playing hardball to facilitate the negotiation process.

    Trump pointed out we had a $500 billion trade deficit with the world. He said it was not fair trade, but “stupid trade.”

  458. lisab says:

    It’s funny how people argue that more people should be in Congress as population increases, but these same people seem to think the Supreme Court is fine with only 6.

  459. mnw says:

    Phil is right.

    The no-show strategy (deny a quorum) is a non-starter, because of the Spotted Owls– Heitkamp & the others can’t afford to participate in that. It would be tantamount to conceding 4-5 Senate seats in deep red states.

    “Our Senator is drawing her pay, but she’s staying at home & acting like an angry child? Is THAT what we want from OUR Senator?”

  460. Phil says:

    The left calm down? Not possible.

  461. Robbie says:

    If Trump picks one of Kavanaugh, Kethledge, Thapar, or Barrett, he can’t go wrong.

    My guess right now is the pick will be Kavanaugh, but Thapar and Barrett certainly offer intriguing confirmations.

    Firstly, it would be just that much harder for red state Democrats to block a minority or a woman.

    Second, it would a lot harder for Democrats to cry about the conservative majority if it includes diversity like an African American, an Asian American, or a woman.

    Also, if Republicans hold the Senate, expect Thomas to retire in June 2019.

  462. lisab says:

    “According to experts on senate parliamentary procedure there is one way to block a confirmation vote. Shut the senate down by denying a quorum. Senate cannot consider anything without 51 senators present – no votes or business. With McCain out if all Democrats refuse to show for the next four months and MCCain gone Republicans cannot muster 51 present.”

    quorum calls are not automatic

    a dem would have to show up to call for it

    thus making a quorum

  463. lisab says:

    we vote for whichever 2020 candidate promises to expand the court to 11 justices to make up for Gorsuch’s illegitimate appointment. Court packing isn’t ideal but it will be less harm to democracy than the gerrymandering, vote suppression and buying of elections that will be solidified by this stolen seat majority of right wing extremists.

    fk convention, fk decorum. The GOP never abides by them, so why should we? Let us have Puerto Rico and DC as states, a majority on the SCOTUS, ban corporate donations, ban gerrymandering, ban super PACs, ban voter suppression. Right wingers will bitch like hell but once we have free and fair elections they won’t be able to come back for 20 years.

  464. lisab says:

    When/if Dems are ever in a position of power, they need to abuse the hell out of it and teach the GOP a lesson. Pack the SC with a bunch of 25 year old gay pro-choice muslims.

  465. Phil says:

    The more I think about it Trump might be wise to appoint a Kavanaugh. Save a Barrett for if Ginsberg’s seat opens up. I realize they will have to carry her out feet first. As has been stated a woman will be much harder to oppose and Dems will try anything to protect that liberal seat. It will be a huge fight and Dems will be fighting hard to avoid Ginsberg being replaced by a conservative. Save Barrett or Larsen for that eventuality.

  466. Tina says:

    We need to worry about Flaky.

    He is needing of media attention and will no,doubt do something rinoish.

  467. phoenixrisen says:

    Phil, I have stuffed myself full of popcorn today watching the sheer unhinged panic of Chris Matthews. Absolutely epic todY

  468. Tina says:

    The Drats need to pack the court with Hogg hitler and the socialist that won the by house nominatio from the #4 leadership dude.

  469. jason says:

    We need to worry about Flaky.”

    Maybe it wasn’t a good idea for Trump to insult him?

  470. Tina says:

    Even Goober is on board,

    Trump picks.

    Confirmed by the Fall.

    Goober is becoming less and less gooberish, especially when he learned about the fib and fisa abuses and illegal wire taps.

  471. phoenixrisen says:

    For all the speculation on Ginsburg, have to think that Breyer will retire at some point as well. He is 79

  472. Phil says:

    I don’t ever watch Hardball but did today. Mathews was indeed enraged. It was entertaining as all get out.

  473. Tina says:

    I think flaky insulted trump.

    Flaky was triggered by his nomination and then the infamous tape.

  474. jason says:

    He said it was not fair trade, but “stupid trade.”

    Yep, tariffs are a brilliant idea.

    We just didn’t know the AFL-CIO was so smart.

  475. Tina says:

    I hope that The judge drops a Moab Friday regarding the Flynn matter.

    It will make my day if Fuhrer Muleheads case is nuked on Friday.

    After all, the judge before this one was forced off for conspiring likely with Pete the cheat.

  476. lisab says:

    Best option is to expand the court after Trump. Or contract it (cut it to 7 justices and pull a “last in, first out” on the court).

  477. jason says:

    These stupid comments do come back to bite you…

    “Great to see that Dr. Kelli Ward is running against Flake Jeff Flake, who is WEAK on borders, crime and a non-factor in Senate. He’s toxic!”

    You reap what you sow.

  478. Tina says:

    Flakey

    10/16

    The Rs need to take up the Garland nomination.

    Look how he always bends for the obumbler.

  479. Phil says:

    Didn’t realize Breyer was that old. Imagine the Democratic rage if something happened to Ginsberg and Breyer over the fall. You think they are unhinged now? Oh brother. It would be the meltdown of all meltdowns.

  480. jason says:

    Beat the Dems at their own game.

    Nominate a woman, preferably black or latina.

    Then pass the popcorn.

  481. Tina says:

    But, you cannot take up,a sc nominee in an election year.

    Up chuck Todd

    Cn and. N

    Mslsd

  482. jason says:

    79 is not that old as SCOTUS judges go. Breyer could last another 6 years easily.

  483. Tina says:

    Atlanta Fed projects 2nd quarter gdp at 4.5 percent.

  484. lisab says:

    If you’re an entrepreneur/self employed person you can get residency in The Netherlands via the DAFT or Dutch-American Friendship Treaty. Doesn’t require much, largest issue is the 4500 euro minimum in your bank account.

  485. Phil says:

    I know, Jason….and I’m not wishing for anyone to die either. Just fantasizing what the Democrats would do if their were two sudden liberal vacancies with a Republican in the WH and a Republican senate with no filibuster option.

    The Democratic tantrum in the senate, late night talk hosts, MSM, and Hollywood would be a hoot. I would watch MSNBC every night just for the entertainment.

  486. jason says:

    But, you cannot take up,a sc nominee in an election year.”

    Is it against CNN policy?

  487. jason says:

    But, you cannot take up,a sc nominee in an election year.”

    I am self employed.

    I would have to sell some llamas though.

  488. Phil says:

    494

    No you can’t, Jason I believe it’s called the Acosta Rule.

  489. Tina says:

    I am sure mikas face will elaborate on why you cannot.

  490. mnw says:

    D

    right?

  491. lisab says:

    I think that the hearing should be held until February 2019, except Kennedy won’t sit for the new term come October 2018, so the caseload can’t be upheld without a full court to hear and review.

  492. lisab says:

    remember when there was speculation hillary would nominate obama to the scotus?

  493. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Beautiful sky tonight. A full moon, and a procession of planets — Venus, Jupiter, Saturn (close to the full moon), then Mars. Missed Mercury which was only visible for a short time after sundown.

  494. Human Question says:

    What about Uranus?

  495. jason says:

    All A-holes are accounted for, thanks.

  496. jason says:

    Where are you lazy bastards?

    I am already looking forward to lunch, my breakfast of fresh ground sausage, slab bacon, pancakes, eggs, home fries, biscuits, and coffee was at 6 AM.

  497. jason says:

    I felt bad about poor Tgca, plodding through his breakfast of sunflower seeds, quinoa porridge, and tofu bacon.

  498. jason says:

    NBC reporter says its a good time to remember Trump lost the popular vote.

    The comments are hilarious.

    https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/2018/06/27/breaking-nbc-news-reporter-thinks-its-a-good-time-to-remember-that-trump-lost-the-popular-vote/

  499. Wobbles says:

    I am here.

    Hoping for some Stormy news today.

  500. jason says:

    At a book signing party last night, Bernie Sanders announced that “in many ways, we did win the election”.

    As an example, he cited that the Marxist won in NY.

    We get a conservative SCOTUS judge, Bernie gets a Marxist in Queens.

    I can live with that kind of winning.

  501. Phil says:

    “seems like a good time to remember Hillary didn’t campaign in Wisconsin”

    LOL My day has officially now started with a laugh.

  502. ssq says:

    Hoping for some Stormy news today.”

    The weather is supposed to be nice here….sorry.

  503. jason says:

    How about “I will take useless facts for $1000, Alex”

  504. Phil says:

    or

    “seems like a good time to remember that Donald Trump is still your President”

    The journalism Democratic hacks are having a bad week.

  505. mnw says:

    That district in Bronx/Queens where the Marxist beat Crowley is appx 20% caucasian. A district like that just isn’t going to send a white male to Congress any more.

    South Carolina can elect an AA GOP Senator. But the DEMs are signaling that no whites need apply in majority-minority districts.

  506. mnw says:

    My HOPE is that the forthcoming SCOTUS fight will create “enthusiasm parity” in the GE.

  507. Chicon says:

    510 – everybody’s WINNING!

  508. Chicon says:

    Hopefully McCain can get back to Washington to vote for the Supreme Court nominee.

  509. Todd McCain says:

    I don’t think McCain is necessary. Not way that Manchin, Donnelly, etc don’t vote for the nominee.

  510. Chicon says:

    516 – imo, getting the nominee approved before the election is very important for the enthusiasm issue in the Senate. Otherwise the Dems will tell their voters that abortion depends on winning the Senate. Getting the nominee confirmed early will deflate turnout.

  511. Mr.Vito says:

    Ari Fleischer
    ?
    @AriFleischer

    After 9/11, Bin Ladin called for the killing of Americans and Jews. I asked the Secret Service if I needed to be concerned. They told me not to worry about it. Imagine how nutty and real the threats against Sarah [Sanders] must be for USSS to take this step. People have lost their minds.

  512. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    1h
    ….persecuted on old and/or totally unrelated charges (there was no collusion and there was no obstruction of the no collusion)…And what is going on in the FBI & DOJ with Crooked Hillary, the DNC and all of the lies? A disgraceful situation!
    5.1K
    5.3K
    20.2K
    Donald J. Trump
    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    1h
    When is Bob Mueller going to list his Conflicts of Interest? Why has it taken so long? Will they be listed at the top of his $22,000,000 Report…And what about the 13 Angry Democrats, will they list their conflicts with Crooked H? How many people will be sent to jail and……

    “No obstruction of the no collusion.”

    Lol, certainly to trigger the muh Russian hoaxers.

  513. Phil says:

    Democrats looking to Collins, Murkowski, Corker, and Flake to “save the supreme court”

    The left is really having a tough time.

  514. Tina says:

    Pete the Cheat is innocent.

    Remember, the stop trump remark was just him trying to put a move on the mistress and cover up their relationship.

    Source, Drats leaking to cn and n.

  515. mnw says:

    46/53

    I can’t see Murkowski or Collins– they don’t have the “FU!” advantage that the lameducks enjoy.

    That would also be out of character for Mullah Bob Corker. Flake, though? DEMs have a real shot.

  516. Tina says:

    Sheila highjackson lee appears to have high jacked a goodlatte hearing with wrong Wray and Swampstein.

    They did the same tactics last time.

  517. Phil says:

    You mean the Sheila Jackson Lee that thinks we landed on Mars?

  518. Chicon says:

    525 – Flake fancies himself as a conservative candidate for President in 2020. How can a true conservative vote against a Federalist Society selected, rock solid conservative nominee to the Court? I think Flake is a yes.

    Murkowski and Collins are at risk because they will be the ones that outlawed abortion if they vote yes and it’s 50-49.

  519. Tina says:

    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    @NolteNC
    ·
    49m
    NEVER FORGET

    after attacking us over the possibility Trump had an affair 12 years ago

    The nihilistic Never Trump peacocks circled the wagons for Mark Sanford, a man who shirked his duty a FEW YEARS AGO to bang his Buenos Aires mistress.

    Tell me more about “muh prinicples.”

  520. Tina says:

    We landed and Mars and Guam will tip over.

    Stamets by lee and her associates..

  521. mnw says:

    Chi 528

    Murkowski & Collins could never be renominated as Republican candidates if they torpedoed the GOP SCOTUS nominee.

  522. mnw says:

    WV SEN:

    PPP(D) has Manchin +7.

    (49-42 in head-to-head; 49-35 with B’ship included.)

  523. Tina says:

    Why is Director Wrong Wray mentioning the fibs actions that led up to the 2016 election in testimony today.

    He needs to wait for part 3 of the Ig report.

  524. DW says:

    Sabato out with a bunch of changes–all in favor of Dems. He follows the same pattern as the others. Whenever polling gets a little better for Dems, they rush to move more rankings in the Dems’ favor. But then when the polling goes the other way, they never correct. Because in their minds, it is supposed to be a Dem wave, so they have conditioned themselves to see Dem gains.

    The change on VA_10 is warranted, but VA_02 makes no sense. This race is not a tossup. Even PPP-D couldn’t get the Dem any closer than a six point gap. Taylor is well-liked.

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
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    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 180 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 181 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 182 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NY_24 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 184 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 185 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | 3.6 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    AR_02 R | 186 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 187 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    NY_01 R | 190 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | 2.8 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NC_13 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    WV_03* R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | 2.4 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    MI_08 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    VA_07 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    KS_03 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43
    OH_12* R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics)
    NC_09* R | 209 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    CA_45 R | 211 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP) | 44/30 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42 (Srategies 360-D)
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 42/27 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (D Internal)
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    VA_10 R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | -0.8 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    AZ_01 D | 192 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NJ_02* R | 191 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.6 — 39/44 (PPP)
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  525. Chicon says:

    Murkowski won’t scared of that. Didn’t she already win without being the Republican nominee?

    We’ll see, but I think you can make a case for and against any of the “moderates” voting yes.

  526. DW says:

    Senate with new PPP poll:

    Paladin – 2018 Senate Dashboard
    ———————————————————–
    ST | Cnt | Cook |Gonz | Saba | NYT | Fox | CNN | RCP | Score — Latest Poll
    ———————————————————–
    NE | 46 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    MS | 47 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    TX | 48 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.4 — 50/39 (Quinnipiac)
    TN | 49 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 — 43/46 (Mason-Dixon)
    —-Democrats need ALL the below for control—-
    MO | 51 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 45/45 (Emerson)
    IN | 50 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 47/46 (Gravis)
    FL | 49 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 48/45 (Florida Chamber)
    WV | 48 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/50 (Monmouth) |42/49 (PPP-D)
    ND | 47 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 48/44 (Mason-Dixon)
    AZ | 46 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    NV | 45 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.2 — 40/39 (Nevada Ind)
    MT | 44 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 — 44/52 (Gravis)
    OH | 43 | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.5 — 34/51 (Quinnipiac)
    WI | 42 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -3 — 39/50 (Marquette)
    MN | 41 | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    PA | 40 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.2 — 27/44 (F&M)
    MI | 39 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.2 —
    NJ | 38 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -4.5 — 32/53 (Monmouth)
    VA | 37 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.1 — 33/44 (Roanoke)
    ME | 36 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —

  527. mnw says:

    Chi

    Think she wants a second helping of that experience?

  528. Phil says:

    Let’s see where Manchin is if he votes no on Trump’s pick.

    He’s kind of trapped.

    Had Schumer not thrown away the filibuster some of these red state Democrats could have gotten some cover by voting to cut off the filibuster while still voting no on the nominee. Now? They’re screwed.

  529. Blobbie says:

    I think the republican senators apparent decision to vote against trump’s Supreme Court nominee may well be a rebuke to Trump and the manner in which he’s conducted himself these last 18 months.

  530. Blobbie says:

    I think the republican senators apparent decision to vote against trump’s Supreme Court nominee may well be a rebuke to Trump and the manner in which he’s conducted himself these last 18 months.

  531. DW says:

    I just realized I have left out some of the other recent polls.

    Paladin – 2018 Senate Dashboard
    ———————————————————–
    ST | Cnt | Cook |Gonz | Saba | NYT | Fox | CNN | RCP | Score — Latest Poll
    ———————————————————–
    NE | 46 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    MS | 47 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    TX | 48 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.4 — 50/39 (Quin.) | 50/40 (CBS)
    TN | 49 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 — 43/46 (Mason-Dixon)
    —-Democrats need ALL the below for control—-
    MO | 51 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 45/45 (Emerson)
    IN | 50 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 47/46 (Gravis)
    FL | 49 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 48/45 (Florida Chamber) 46/41 (CBS) |45/49 (Marist)
    WV | 48 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/50 (Monmouth) |42/49 (PPP-D)
    ND | 47 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 48/44 (Mason-Dixon)
    AZ | 46 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 32/40 (Emerson) | 37/45 (CBS) | 38/49 (Marist)
    NV | 45 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.2 — 40/39 (Nevada Ind)
    MT | 44 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 — 44/52 (Gravis)
    OH | 43 | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.5 — 34/51 (Quinnipiac) |38/51 (Marist)
    WI | 42 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -3 — 39/50 (Marquette)
    MN | 41 | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    PA | 40 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.2 — 27/44 (F&M) | 32/47 (Suffolk)
    MI | 39 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.2 —
    NJ | 38 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -4.5 — 32/53 (Monmouth)
    VA | 37 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.1 — 33/44 (Roanoke) |36/54 (Quin.)
    ME | 36 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —

  532. Bitterlaw says:

    I am back in the US. GFY.

  533. DW says:

    539 – “I think the republican senators apparent decision to vote against trump’s Supreme Court nominee may well be a rebuke to Trump and the manner in which he’s conducted himself these last 18 months.”

    And don’t forget that Blankenship ‘nearly won’ the WV primary.

  534. Tina says:

    A rebuke, much like Kennedy not wanting to step down because trump lacks decorum.

    Even though, it seems logical that Kennedy wanted to retire with 30 years of service on the sc?

  535. jason says:

    I am back in the US. GFY.”

    Glad you are feeling well.

  536. phoenixrisen says:

    Looking at this recent article I think the pick is going to be either Hardiman, Thapar, or Barrett. The perfect pick politically for Trump seems to be Barrett being a woman, Catholic, has clerked for Scalia and holds to Scalia’s views on textualism.

    Kavanaugh and Kethledge are out.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32411/run-down-heres-what-you-need-know-about-trumps-top-ben-shapiro

  537. Phil says:

    ICE headquarters in DC barricaded to keep protestors who wanted to occupy the building from getting in.

    Lovely. The left has a real winner here.

  538. mnw says:

    Harvard CAPS/Harris poll:

    Trump JA 47 (+2)

    Also, +10 w/ Hispanics since the last poll.

    Link at thehill.com

  539. DW says:

    548 – you forgot to mention from that poll:

    Trolls hardest hit.

  540. Tina says:

    Heated hearing.

    Highjackson Lee now helped by swallow hole

    Something is definitely brewing….

  541. Tina says:

    So, maybe trump is having a good week since his net approval is up 4.

    You know why?

    Muh kids failed

  542. Tina says:

    Still well is swallow hole.

  543. Tina says:

    Jordan has rattled swampstein

  544. Chicon says:

    Tina, has the Rooster taken the stage yet?

  545. Tina says:

    Yes, he did good.

    He was on earlier, but Jordan really beat down swampstein,

    Swampstein temper came out, making the claims that he threatened congressional staff more believable.

    Anyway, here is the rooster:

    Pete the cheat was transferred to Fuhrer Mulehead.

    3 days after being selected he wants impeachment,

    That is faster than mslsd.

  546. Redmen4ever says:

    McConnell saying the Senate will vote in the fall on a nominee:

    We don’t even know who will be nominated. Assuming we soon have a nomination, a fall votes allows plenty of time.

    By talking as if there will be a vote, it keeps things real for Democrats running in Deep Red states. Might be good to schedule a vote, and lose on a procedural motion. I think there’s a possibility Trump makes a recess appointment and “nationalizes” the Senate races. We will win if we can at least come close to the other side’s enthusiasm.

  547. Cash Cow TM says:

    Now in central WI heading north.
    In central Illinois NONE of the windmllls
    were turning.
    So I guess that gbig section of Illinois had no electricity.
    Sorry for them…
    ********,************
    Bitter,

    Happy to see you are back, back,
    back in the USA.

  548. mnw says:

    Not discussed so far: Would Jones (D-AL) vote no? Would he assume Alabamans won’t remember if he does?

  549. jason says:

    The little union hall lawyer Marxist fraud is a dead man walking.

    He will vote no because he knows he will never be re-elected.

  550. jason says:

    So, maybe trump is having a good week since his net approval is up 4.”

    So much for CG and Amoral Scumbag’s fake narrative that the fake immigration “crisis” is hurting Trump.

  551. Chicon says:

    559 – has he strayed from the party line yet? If he thinks he’s got no shot at reelection, he’s a no, imo.

    Will Chuck give out any free passes to Dems? And when? He’s under tremendous pressure from the socialists to get every no vote, but if he doesn’t give the okay to a few of his people to vote yes he’ll not be majority leader for a long time. I suspect passes will be given to the red staters who have a shot to win, but only after the Republicans show they’re holding firm.

    Just my guess….

  552. Tina says:

    vidence of wrongdoing by any member of the Trump campaign, present it to the damn grand jury…Whatever you got, finish it the hell up.”

    Rooster calls for an end to Fuhrer Mulehead. Every r should call for an end to the hoax.

  553. jason says:

    A rebuke, much like Kennedy not wanting to step down because trump lacks decorum.”

    Amoral Scumbag has come out with a lot of screwball theories here, but the one about Kennedy not retiring because he objected to Trump’s behavior brings screwball theories to a new level.

    There was never ANY evidence of this and in any case Amoral Scumbag has no inside info on what Kennedy thought or didn’t think. Evidently he had a long conversation with Trump and even offered advice on his replacement.

    Even after it was obvious that the “theory” was a huge crock, since Trump’s behavior did not change and Kennedy retired, he was here yesterday reminding us of his stupidity.

  554. mnw says:

    I doubt that Jones works on the assumption that he can’t be reelected. He has a long time tottery to ingratiate himself with his constituents— but voting no on SCOTUS would hardly help him.

  555. Chicon says:

    Yeah, voting no on a reasonable SCOTUS pick would seal the deal. I doubt he thinks he can win anyway, but I don’t see his internal polling.

  556. Phil says:

    Come on, guys Jones knows he’s done in 2020. If he’s operating on any assumption other than that he is toast, he is brain dead delusional.

  557. phil says:

    …and I don’t need to see his internal polling. Kamala Harris will be at the top of the ticket with her make America California rallying cry. How do you think that will play in Bama.

  558. DW says:

    567 – if the GOP can avoid another bloodbath primary and avoid nominating a sure loser, then yes, Jones is done in 2020

  559. Chicon says:

    I agree he’s likely done – and he’s a no vote on SCOTUS. The caveat in predicting his vote is whether he believes it is close enough to act like a blue dog and hope for the best.

  560. Tina says:

    Boom

    Pete the cheat, polygraph test way off.

  561. Mr.Vito says:

    huh?

  562. Tina says:

    Disclosed in hearing.

  563. Chicon says:

    Tina, what was disclosed in the hearing? That he failed a polygraph?

  564. Mr.Vito says:

    Polygraph of what questioning?

  565. Tina says:

    Evidently so, chicon.

  566. jason says:

    Bound to happen one day… in this case I support Trump’s decision and think Rubio is wrong.

    “President Donald Trump has announced the details of a plan to crack down on Chinese investment in US technology companies, and the final results were weaker than expected.

    After fears that Trump would introduce harsh measures to curb Chinese investment in US-based technology companies, the US president instead decided to use less stringent methods to curb the practice, including the expanded use of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States.

    According to a senior administration official, a slew of other options were considered before Trump settled on the use of CFIUS.

    The decision may signal a de-escalation in the US-China trade conflict after a series of tariffs and tariff threats by the two countries. By opting for the expanded use of CFIUS instead of new controls on Chinese investment, Trump appears to be trying to ease the tensions between the two sides slightly.

    Trump’s choice of the less severe option also is a win for the administration’s free-trade advocates, such as Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin and the National Economic Council director, Larry Kudlow, over the more protectionist faction of the administration, headed by the trade adviser Peter Navarro and US Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer.

    The decision also drew the ire of some of the more China-skeptic members of Congress, such as GOP Sen. Marco Rubio.

    “If in fact President Trump is now backtracking on tough limits on Chinese investment, it is a VERY BIG MISTAKE,” Rubio tweeted early Wednesday. “#China is strategically buying up US companies specializing in cutting edge technology. What they don’t steal from us they buy away from us.”

  567. jason says:

    Jones can only win against a deadender.

    Of course, we can’t discount that possibility.

    However, if any lessons were learned, Rs will nominate someone that can easily beat him.

  568. jason says:

    the GOP can avoid another bloodbath primary and avoid nominating a sure loser, then yes, Jones is done in 2020?

    Mo Brooks and Roy Moore: “you rannnnnnnggggggggg”?

  569. Chicon says:

    577 – hopefully it’s the start of more even trade. Maybe they’ve found a tool short of tariffs that can impact the other side’s behavior.

  570. brent says:

    578 jeff session once he is thrown out as a/g

  571. NYCmike says:

    jason includes Mo Brooks with Roy Moore……

  572. jason says:

    Of those 3 I would prefer Thapar.

    As an Indian-American he will be harder to Bork and counter the MSM meme that Trump is against minorities.

  573. NYCmike says:

    I would prefer Thapar as well……that name is sure to be mispronounced over and over, so it will make everyone smile, and be less hostile.

  574. jason says:

    jason includes Mo Brooks with Roy Moore…”

    LOl… you are a dumbass.

    I was responding to a post that said don’t have a blood bath primary (Brooks vs. Strange) which allowed a deadender to win (Moore).

    GFY.

  575. jason says:

    Don’t get me wrong, I think Mo Brooks is a moron, but he would have beaten Jones same as Strange.

  576. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    June 28, 2018 at 8:56 am
    I am here.
    Hoping for some Stormy news today.

    – What an empty life you must lead that you show up here and post with a parody screen name.

  577. Robbie says:

    Blobbie says:
    June 28, 2018 at 11:04 am
    I think the republican senators apparent decision to vote against trump’s Supreme Court nominee may well be a rebuke to Trump and the manner in which he’s conducted himself these last 18 months.

    – I think you’re stupid and the evidence is your moronic comment.

  578. jason says:

    hopefully it’s the start of more even trade.”

    Translation: hoping for no trade.

  579. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag is attacking Blobbie?

    LOL

  580. Robbie says:

    phoenixrisen says:
    June 28, 2018 at 11:50 am
    Looking at this recent article I think the pick is going to be either Hardiman, Thapar, or Barrett. The perfect pick politically for Trump seems to be Barrett being a woman, Catholic, has clerked for Scalia and holds to Scalia’s views on textualism.
    Kavanaugh and Kethledge are out.
    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32411/run-down-heres-what-you-need-know-about-trumps-top-ben-shapiro

    – Three things.

    Ben Shapiro should not be taken seriously.

    I opposed Tom Hardiman in early 2017 and I still oppose him. He is a Pope Santorum favorite who has Souter/Kennedy written all over him.

    Kavanaugh, Kethledge, Thapar, and Barrett are homeruns.

  581. jason says:

    What an empty life you must lead that you show up here ..”

    LOL

  582. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    June 28, 2018 at 1:30 pm
    Not discussed so far: Would Jones (D-AL) vote no? Would he assume Alabamans won’t remember if he does?

    – I think he will vote no. He’s not going to win in 2020 so placating conservatives won’t do him any good.

  583. jason says:

    Harvard CAPS/Harris poll:

    Trump JA 47 (+2)

    Also, +10 w/ Hispanics since the last poll.”

    Amoral Scumbag having another bad week.

  584. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 28, 2018 at 1:46 pm
    A rebuke, much like Kennedy not wanting to step down because trump lacks decorum.”
    Amoral Scumbag has come out with a lot of screwball theories here, but the one about Kennedy not retiring because he objected to Trump’s behavior brings screwball theories to a new level.

    – In the Trump era, Jason fraud has become a news denier. Multiple stories have noted Kennedy chose not to retire in 2017 because of Trump’s behavior.

    I know you have secluded yourself muh conservative news safe space, but venture out into the sane world. It won’t hurt you.

  585. Wobbles says:

    Trash that poll.

    It under represents those that want to rebuke Trump’s behavior.

  586. jason says:

    Multiple stories have noted Kennedy chose not to retire in 2017 because of Trump’s behavior.”

    Wrong.

    A few hard core leftist media morons have speculated this to be the case, WITH NO EVIDENCE.

    Or do you have evidence?

  587. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    June 28, 2018 at 1:46 pm
    I doubt that Jones works on the assumption that he can’t be reelected. He has a long time tottery to ingratiate himself with his constituents— but voting no on SCOTUS would hardly help him.

    – It’s one thing for him to win in a low turnout special election against an unbelievably awful candidate like Roy Moore.

    It’s another for him to win against a credible statewide candidate in a presidential year no less.

    He knows he’s toast, but he also knows he can spend the next two years stymying Trump’s agenda.

  588. jason says:

    I think he will vote no. He’s not going to win in 2020 so placating conservatives won’t do him any good.”

    I agree with Amoral Scumbag.

    Or he agrees with me, since I said the same thing above.

    Either way, unfortunate coincidences happen.

  589. jason says:

    Every time I agree with something Amoral Scumbag posts, I feel like I should take a shower.

    Fortunately, doesn’t happen much.

  590. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    June 28, 2018 at 3:14 pm
    Harvard CAPS/Harris poll:
    Trump JA 47 (+2)
    Also, +10 w/ Hispanics since the last poll.”
    Amoral Scumbag having another bad week.

    – Not at all, Jason fraud. This is clearly the best week of Trump’s presidency.

    If Trump weren’t a perpetual clown show, he’d use this week as a chance to reboot his approach and find a way to drag the party across the finish line in November.

  591. jason says:

    In the Trump era, Jason fraud has become a news denier.”

    I am proud of the fact I prefer to think for myself instead of just regurgitating every left wing MSM piece of garbage I read.

    I wear the badge of fake news denier with pride.

    Not to mention I am probably 10 times more well read and informed than you can ever hope to be.

  592. jason says:

    he’d use this week as a chance to reboot his approach”

    Translation: roll over and die and let the MSM run all over him.

    I hate to disappoint you, it won’t happen.

    Of course he IS free to reboot his approach to trade and immigration.

  593. Tina says:

    The best week and last week was a bad week.

    Lol

  594. Tina says:

    The Drats are unhinged

    Muh children to muh sc justice.

  595. DW says:

    New poll of UT_04

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    TX_31 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 180 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 181 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 182 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NY_24 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 184 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 185 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | 3.6 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    AR_02 R | 186 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 187 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    NY_01 R | 190 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | 2.8 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NC_13 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    WV_03* R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | 2.4 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    MI_08 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    VA_07 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    KS_03 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43 | 45/39 (Salt Lake Trib.)
    OH_12* R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics)
    NC_09* R | 209 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    CA_45 R | 211 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP) | 44/30 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42 (Srategies 360-D)
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 42/27 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (D Internal)
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    VA_10 R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | -0.8 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    AZ_01 D | 192 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NJ_02* R | 191 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.6 — 39/44 (PPP)
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  596. NYCmike says:

    “Ben Shapiro should not be taken seriously.”

    Maggie Haberman – ok.

    Lord Ashcroft – ok

    Ben Shapiro – no way!

    Scott Adams – ignore.

  597. Wobbles says:

    Lord Arsehat now predicts Dems will win 82 seats and Trump’s SCOTUS nominee will be rejected by a 79-20 vote.

    He says take it to the bank, and that History says its impossible to be wrong 100% of the time.

  598. mnw says:

    “Doug Jones can only win against a deadender”

    Nonsense. I guess even I would accept the characterization of Moore as a “deadender.” Even so, Moore would’ve beaten Jones like a filthy rug (WAS in fact beating him) until the sex scandal.

  599. Wobbles says:

    “Ben Shapiro should not be taken seriously.”

    You have to be on the MSM “approved list”.

    Only “journolists” that have signed a pledge for the cause should be referenced.

    Thank you.

  600. mnw says:

    DW or anybody

    Why is Love so relatively unpopular in UT? I mean, she wins, but why is the DEM always competitive?

  601. DW says:

    612 – I believe it is the most competitive seat in the state, and a blue-dog dem used to hold it.

    Furthermore, I believe Love grew up in the Northeast and moved to Utah in the late 1990s. She didn’t convert to Mormonism until she moved there. So probably has a little bit of a carpet-bagger tag on her both in terms regional and religious affiliation?

  602. mnw says:

    That makes sense.

    Seems like the advantages of incumbency would’ve worked their wonders by now, though, if she has even average skills.

  603. NYCmike says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/27/scott-pruitt-rolling-back-power/

    -More evidence to support the claim that Trump is a “lifelong liberal”.

  604. Phil says:

    The left is literally melting down. What would they do if Ruth Ginsburg were to suddenly drop dead on top of yesterday’s Kennedy retirement. I shudder to think. How ugly would that be?

  605. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “612 – I believe it is the most competitive seat in the state, and a blue-dog dem used to hold it. Furthermore, I believe Love grew up in the Northeast and moved to Utah in the late 1990s. She didn’t convert to Mormonism until she moved there. So probably has a little bit of a carpet-bagger tag on her both in terms regional and religious affiliation?”

    Agree with the first part of you statement, the Democratic neighborhoods in Salt Lake County are in the Love’s district, and they consistently vote Democratic. The congressional seat representing this area has often been held by a Democrat.

    Totally disagree with the second part saying that Love is viewed as a carpetbagger and religiously suspect. Love is admired by Mormons, and is the strongest candidate the Republicans could have in that district. Without her it would more likely the seat would elect a Democrat.

    In the future, when there is a vacancy, see Mia Love being elected senator for Utah.

  606. DW says:

    616 – I asked that question yesterday.

    Speaking of 616, there is an ancient papyrus fragment of the Book of Revelation that shows the number of the Antichrist as 616 instead of 666.

    That has nothing to do with Ginsburg and the left melting down. Or does it?

  607. Chicon says:

    589 – what an idiotic response.

  608. DW says:

    716 – sounds like you know more about the district than I do, so I stand corrected. Was just speculating on why its so close. I knew it was the blue-fraud seat…what was that guy’s name? Matheson or something like that? Anyway, if I recall correctly UT got one more district in 2012 due to the 2010 census, and Matheson ran against Love in the newly carved out seat. Matheson beat Love, holding in to it in 2012, but then lost to Love in 2014.

    So yeah, that’s gotta be it. Scratch what I said about the east coast background and late conversion to Mormonism.

  609. Chicon says:

    600 – Jason hates showering….

  610. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    620. Can understand, it is odd there would be a competitive seat in Utah. It does make it appear that Mia Love has issues.

    Matheson had held the seat for six terms, until Love defeated him. In 2016 Clinton got 45.5% of the vote in the district and Trump 27.5% (but a lot also went to Evan McMullin). Love converted to Mormonism prior to moving to Utah; Matheson did not think she was a serious opponent, and was surprised to lose.

    Think Love will win, and Romney will help make it happen. A lot of the district is in conservative, heavily Mormon Utah County, where Love was a mayor. It votes heavily for Love.

  611. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    In Utah as a whole, Clinton only got 27.2% of the vote, but in Love’s district Clinton pulled 45.5%.
    McAdams is about the strongest Democrat they could get to run against Love, so am impressed she is holding a lead.

  612. Chicon says:

    Here’s how Jason would respond to someone lying about his position as he did about mine in 589…

    You are a liar! Either find a post where I said anything like that or take it back and apologize!

  613. DW says:

    This poll is something of a push poll because before they asked the matchup questions, they asked this:

    Question 2: Would you rather your elected officials act as a check on Donald Trump to prevent him from enacting his agenda, stand with the President and push his agenda, or prioritize local issues and focus on getting results for your community?

    MINNESOTA Senate

    Jim Newberger (R): 37%
    Amy Klobuchar (D): 57%
    Undecided: 6%

    Karin Housley (R): 39%
    Tina Smith (D): 48%
    Undecided: 13%

    https://www.outstate.us/politics/minnesota-statewide-poll-june-24-25-2018/

  614. Mr.Vito says:

    Well, the judge in the Manafort case seems to have totally unloaded on Rosenstein and Mueller.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jun/28/even-blind-person-can-see-mueller-using-manafort-t/

  615. Mr.Vito says:

    http://www.capitalgazette.com/opinion/columns/ac-ce-editors-desk-20180617-story.html

    Eerie capital gazette article from June 17

    Last few sentences.

    “I’ve said before that you’re welcome to disagree with our endorsements. Just don’t burn my house down.

    Now I can add this.

    We keep our office doors locked today.”

  616. Robbie says:

    Given what has happened at the newspaper in Maryland, it would be very wise if Trump toned down his “press are the enemy of the people” schtick.

    I’m not even remotely suggesting Trump played any role in this shooting, but there’s no need to super charge an already volatile atmosphere.

  617. Chicon says:

    Was the shooting today an attack on a newspaper? Or was it a workplace shooting?

  618. NYCmike says:

    “600 – Jason hates showering….”

    -An A-Hole is only happy when it is doing the dirty work.

  619. Ron N says:

    628 the sad thing is watching CNN it like they are hoping it had something to do with the president. They are sick there coverage is like just waiting to say it’s his fault.

  620. Tina says:

    Flakey says he will not,hold up,the sc pick.

    The Drats are targeting the Maine Chicklet and Senator,Planned Parenthood.

  621. paul says:

    631: They are sick enemies of the people. What would even make them consider such a thing!!

  622. paul says:

    Maybe it is because Trump has all but called on people do such a thing.

  623. Proud Obamacon says:

    I see Hillary Clinton is at it again killing all those poor souls in Maryland today…

  624. mnw says:

    CNN literally has fewer viewers prime time OR day time than HGTV.

    DW

    That there MN poll is a push poll, alright.

  625. Tina says:

    Muh sc pick to. Muh shooting.

  626. Phil says:

    634

    Yeah, riiiiiiight

    Please let the MSM push that one. Their credibility isn’t far enough down the toilet yet…..

  627. DW says:

    “A senior official said the suspect is 39 years old. Local authorities were preparing to execute a search warrant for the suspect’s home. The suspect’s name has not been released, but sources told NBC News that he is from Maryland.”

    Ok, if the shooter is from Maryland, then there is what…a 65% chance or better he’s a Democrat and not a Republican? I guess he could be an independent. Whatever his affiliation, I hope he gets the death penalty.

  628. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    June 28, 2018 at 6:42 pm
    Was the shooting today an attack on a newspaper? Or was it a workplace shooting?

    – Don’t know, but it appears journalists were killed. In deference, toning down the hyperbole, on both sides, would be a great idea.

  629. Robbie says:

    Terrible. Apparently, the person sent threats against the paper over social media as recently as today.

    Jesse Rodriguez
    @JesseRodriguez

    MD Law Enforcement Official: This was a “targeted attack” on the Capital Gazette @MSNBC

  630. Phil says:

    Good luck getting the left to tone down anything.

  631. Chicon says:

    I’m good with limiting speech that calls for violence and harassment, no matter who does it. But vigorous debate, including some name calling – is ok.

  632. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “– Don’t know, but it appears journalists were killed. In deference, toning down the hyperbole, on both sides, would be a great idea.”

    Robbie, we agree.

  633. Tina says:

    The president needs to tone down in light of the shooting.

    Dnc media are sickos.

  634. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The MD shooting was due to a Judge in 2012 tossing a lawsuit the shooter had filed against the newspaper. The perp’s name is Jarrod Ramos(?).

    The story will disappear quickly now because the weapon was NOT a semi-automatic and Trump’s “heated rhetoric” was of no consequence.

  635. Phil says:

    Yeah, that will happen. Just like the left backed way off after one of their own drove in from out of state to shoot up a Republican congressional softball practice. Hell, their rhetoric was just getting started after that.

    The genie is out of the bottle and it isn’t going back in.

  636. Tina says:

    #Breaking Annapolis investigators looking at man who filed suit against Capital Gazette previously – WBAL

  637. Tina says:

    So, we went from muh children in cages to muh sc pick to muh shooting.

    All the presidents fault, per the loons.

  638. Tina says:

    It is pointing to a workplace matter.

  639. Phil says:

    ….to early to know much about motives. We won’t know until all the facts are in and it is reported by a professional journalist like Jim Acosta.

  640. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    ““Some of them were still in civilian clothes and they were pulling their vests on as they ran towards the building,” she said.”

    The police response was heroic, and Maryland should be proud. It likely saved lives.

  641. JC says:

    Reuters has a new poll out showing the dem advantage has shrunk to D+3.

  642. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    If the shooting was over a personal matter, than both sides need to end the political banter. It is inappropriate.

  643. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    88% of Republicans have very or mostly favorable views of the NRA
    24% of Democrats hold similar opinions
    53% of all Americans view the NRA favorably, 42% unfavorably

    This is from a Gallup Poll released today.

  644. Phil says:

    All that matters is that David Hogg says the NRA is evil. He must be right, too. I was in the airport and I heard a panel on CNN say he was.

  645. mnw says:

    I don’t view NRA favorably because they always saved Harry Reid’s adz.

  646. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    646. “The story will disappear quickly now because the weapon was NOT a semi-automatic and Trump’s “heated rhetoric” was of no consequence.”

    Agree. Shotguns have been used in several mass shootings. They actually can be just as deadly as other types of long guns, if they are in experienced hands.

    The best deterrent to this type of attack is an armed employee whose desk is within view of the entryway. I have been in that type of a situation, everyone who comes in is checked out.

  647. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    656. “All that matters is that David Hogg says the NRA is evil.”

    Hogg needs to realize that the cowardly security officer who stayed outside of the school while students were being shot is evil. Its too bad he cannot face a firing squad made up of students.

  648. Tina says:

    I miss Camera Hogg, What happened?

    I know Stormy hogged Hogg.

  649. Phil says:

    Yeah, I miss those two, Tina.

    Last I heard Hogg had surrounded himself with armed security guards. armed. That means they had those nasty guns on them, right?

  650. Tina says:

    Maybe Kerry’s spitballs?

  651. mnw says:

    Now this here? THIS is a dead thread.

    I miss the old alcohol-fueled late night slugfests with Wes.

  652. NYCmike says:

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=11073

    -These people are NVTS!

    “Members of the Diversity Allies listserv—which aims to create “allies to underrepresented groups in computer science”—drafted up a petition of concern, asking each other how the memo made them “feel” and if they should demand a “response” from the school.”

    By the way, WTF are “non-binary people”?

  653. lisab says:

    Dem congresswoman among anti-Trump protesters arrested inside Capitol office building

    Washington Democratic Rep. Pramila Jayapal is among the more than 500 protesters who were arrested inside a Capitol office building on Thursday while demonstrating against President Trump’s policies on illegal immigration.

  654. Cash Cow TM says:

    “PPP, which is considered a Democratic pollster, also measured favorability of Manchin and Morrisey and both finished on the non-favorable side. Manchin at 39 percent favorable to 48 percent unfavorable while Morrisey was at 30 percent favorable to 44 percent unfavorable.”

    Manchin drawing 25% of Trump voters…

    WVMetronews

  655. mnw says:

    Cow

    How would Manchin vote on SCOTUS, assuming his vote really mattered?

    Do you think Manchin really is getting 25% of Trump voters?

  656. Mr.Vito says:

    https://mdcourts.gov/sites/default/files/import/appellate/unreportedopinions/2015/2281s13.pdf

    9 page ruling on Ramos court case says plenty.

    Nuttier than an elephant’s diarrhea. (Line from Greg Gutfeld)

    Employee of BLS during Obama. (Yay govt)

  657. lisab says:

    “Clearly we need universal background checks and need to get rid of the military style assault weapons and private ownership,” @SenatorCardin on #CapitalGazette shooting sparking gun debate reform. https://cbsn.ws/2KtazLm

  658. lisab says:

    PETER STRZOK WAS CALLING FOR IMPEACHMENT 3 DAYS AFTER MUELLER WAS APPOINTED ..THAT’S FASTER THAN MSNBC AND THE DEMOCRATS” TREY GOWDY

  659. Blobbie says:

    I WAS CALLING FOR IMPEACHMENT 3 DAYS BEFORE MUELLER WAS APPOINTED ..THAT’S EVEN FASTER THAN PETER STRZOK

  660. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Senator Cardin: “Clearly we need universal background checks and need to get rid of the military style assault weapons and private ownership”

    Dmitri Somethingsky? @EvilRussianBot
    Replying to @CBSNews @SenatorCardin
    “and private ownership” He let that one slip, didn’t he?

  661. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Do you think Manchin really is getting 25% of Trump voters?”

    YES.
    I know some….

  662. Gelt Goose says:

    Honk.

  663. mnw says:

    If u have trouble sleeping, the night crew & the morning crew kind of merge.

    Cow

    Thx for the info. Maybe a Trump rally or 2 can help Morrissey with those?

  664. mnw says:

    OH-GOV:

    NBC/Marist: Dewine (R) + 4 over Cordray (D).

    CA split initiative:

    Down 3-1, so it least the damn thing isn’t metastasizing.

  665. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This is an interesting MI GOP Senate primary poll showing a close race between John James and businessman Sandy Pensler. Pensler is up 32 to 29 with almost 40% undecided.
    I hope James prevails. IMHO, he could give Little Debbie Stabanow(D) a run for the money if he is adequately funded.
    The pollster is not connected with any campaign or organization.

    https://johnjamesforsenate.com/poll-062818/

  666. jason says:

    Chicon says:
    June 28, 2018 at 4:54 pm

    600 – Jason hates showering….”

    Not true.

    I said I would take 30 showers if I had to vote for Jeb Bush in the GE, when I probably could have gotten away with 29.

  667. jason says:

    Didn’t the Ramos guy use a shotgun? I never saw a shotgun in the Army.

    Of course, I never saw an AR-15 either.

  668. jason says:

    “Given the investigation’s focus on President
    Yep, Judge clearly states the Manafort prosecution is purely political….

    “Trump’s campaign, even a blind person can see that the true target of the Special Counsel’s investigation is President Trump, not defendant, and that defendant’s prosecution is part of that larger plan,” he wrote. “Specifically, the charges against defendant are intended to induce defendant to cooperate with the Special Counsel by providing evidence against the President or other members of the campaign. Although these kinds of high-pressure prosecutorial tactics are neither uncommon nor illegal, they are distasteful.”

  669. jason says:

    Given what has happened at the newspaper in Maryland, it would be very wise if Trump toned down his “press are the enemy of the people” schtick.”

    LOL

    Amoral Scumbag would love that wouldn’t he.

    Unilateral disarmament.

    The corrupt, biased, unprofessional, dishonest MSM IS the enemy.

    And of course, the shooting had nothing to do with anything Trump said or didn’t say.

  670. jason says:

    This little gem in the shooting coverage…

    “Some employees removed high heels to prepare to flee the building. Others hid. One pulled two handguns out of his desk drawer for self-defense.”

  671. Mr.Vito says:

    And this jason…

    “The regulations do not require the Special Counsel’s investigation to be limited as to time or budget,” he wrote. “Thus, to provide a Special Counsel with a large budget and to tell him or her to find crimes allows a Special Counsel to pursue his or her targets without the usual time and budget constraints facing ordinary prosecutors, encouraging substantial elements of the public to conclude that the Special Counsel is being deployed as a political weapon.”

    “If a Special Counsel discovers no criminal activity then the investigation is likely to be perceived as a waste of time and resources, and thus a Special Counsel has a strong incentive to find criminality and to prosecute criminal conduct by the people he has been charged with investigating — here persons connected with the Trump campaign,” he said.

  672. Redmen4ever says:

    Cory Booker on elected officials under investigation for criminal charges: Fit to serve if a Democrat as in the case of Robert Menendez. (Booker appeared as a character witness in Menendez’ trial.)

  673. jason says:

    This is typical of what Amoral Scumbag wants to “protect”

    Politico

    “The greatest hope of Trump advisers is that a Supreme Court pick will dominate the news so much that it will not allow Democrats to talk about their vision for health care or the economy or taxes — or to present any positive, forward-looking message.”

    Republicans are against positive, forward looking messages….okayyyy….

  674. jason says:

    Of course, Amoral Scumbag also wants to protect the fake news narrative that Kennedy wouldn’t retire because of “Trump’s behavior”.

    Even after he retired.

  675. mnw says:

    Politico is a lost cause. I don’t go there any more– because I prefer to get my liberal talking points straight from Pravda itself (CNN). Might as well go to the Ur-mother of all fake news & just be done with it!

    The Hill is a little less Stalinist, imo.

  676. jason says:

    We can get all the liberal talking points from Amoral Scumbag, he can usually post them here within 30 seconds of them being released by the MSM, and I can certainly wait that long.

  677. Todd McCain says:

    Anyone but Hardiman; Thapur, Kavanaugh and Coney Barrett all seem like really solid picks.

  678. Todd McCain says:

    Also, it isn’t fair to lump Roberts in with a Souter or a Kennedy; he has been extremely conservative say for the Obamacare decision.

  679. jason says:

    Rubio may have a point, that many Rs are reluctant to criticize Trump because they understand the MSM is completely dishonest and they don’t want to appear to be siding with them.

    I am not reluctant to criticize him, but I certainly agree with the 92% of Rs. And I bet a majority of independents like me agree the MSM intentionally misreports information.

    WASHINGTON – Sen. Marco Rubio has a theory why Republicans won’t criticize President Donald Trump: the news media.

    “In a tweet this morning, Rubio said that speaking out “means siding with a media that never cuts him a break, turns even little things he does into an act of evil, are also unfair to them & in the end will still attack you anyway.”

    He was commenting on a online poll in which 92 percent of Republicans said they think the media intentionally misreports information.”

  680. jason says:

    Todd, only a deadender could possibly think Roberts is not a conservative.

    In the deadender world, unless you agree with EVERY vote he is a communist.

  681. jason says:

    Btw Todd, be careful with that last name here.

    You might be confused with a 6-term senator and war hero and have your military record disparaged and be called a traitor, scumbag, RINO, in addition to being told you should die soon.

  682. Chicon says:

    I think Rubio has a point. I know that the craziness of the media, libs and Never Trumpers has pushed me to root for Trump more than I otherwise would have.

  683. Chicon says:

    These SCOTUS stories about Roberts now being the swing vote on the court are music to my ears. If he’s the weak link, things are great.

  684. Chicon says:

    McCain should not die soon. He should resign his seat if he’s not going to be able to get back to Washington to vote for the Supreme Court nominee. The fine people of AZ deserve two Senators voting on the issue, like the rest of the states.

  685. Chicon says:

    Notice who Trump met with last night about the SCOTUS pick. Heidi, Manchin, Donnelly for the socialists; and Collins and Murkowski for the GOP.

  686. mnw says:

    47/52

    Chi 697

    Interesting. Hadn’t heard that. I think Sen. Lee would be hardest to confirm. He’s too closely associated with RTL.

  687. mnw says:

    PA-01:

    In addition to supporting anti-Israel BDS groups, the DEM nominee (Wallace) has given a lot of money to support the legal rights of… Gitmo prisoners.

    Nice candidate you got there. Be a shame if he lost by 35 points.

  688. Cash Cow TM says:

    “How would Manchin vote on SCOTUS, assuming his vote really mattered?”
    **************************************
    I think Manchin voted for Gorsuch…so I think he would vote for the new Trump SCOTUS appointee…given the political climate.

  689. mnw says:

    Cow

    Thx again. I( have mixed feelings about Trump meeting with those three high-value targets– gives them some desperately needed “I CAN work with the President! See?” cover.

  690. Chicon says:

    Mnw, I believe you made the point yesterday that someone already confirmed – a court of appeals judge- is the way to go. I agree, and I’d skip Lee also.

    Maybe Lee replaces Ruth after the GOP picks up 3-4 seats in November.

  691. DW says:

    YouGov Generic Ballot:

    GOP 36%
    Dem 34%

  692. DW says:

    wait…just realized that you gov was from a week ago, they have since put out another with dems back in lead.

  693. DW says:

    New CA_22 poll:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    TX_31 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    SC_01 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 49/41 (PPP)
    FL_06* R | 157 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    MO_02 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_07 R | 160 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_10 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    OH_15 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    PA_14* D | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 — 48/43 (PPP)
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_06 R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 168 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    WI_06 R | 172 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.8 —
    FL_25 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    CA_04 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    OH_14 R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.4 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 —
    GA_07 R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    TX_21* R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 180 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    FL_18 R | 181 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_13 R | 182 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NY_24 R | 183 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    IL_14 R | 184 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 45/41 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 185 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | 3.6 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    AR_02 R | 186 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 47/42 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 187 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 188 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    VA_05 R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.2 —
    NY_01 R | 190 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.2 —
    MT_01 R | 191 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | 2.8 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NC_13 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    OH_01 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 43/42 (PPP)
    WV_03* R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | 2.4 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 —
    VA_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    ME_02 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 45/35
    MI_08 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 46/41 (PPP)
    VA_07 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    TX_32 R | 205 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    KS_03 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 47/43 | 45/39 (Salt Lake Trib.)
    OH_12* R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics)
    NC_09* R | 209 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 1.4 — 42/37 (PPP)
    NE_02 R | 210 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.4 —
    CA_45 R | 211 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 — 43/46 (PPP)
    KS_02* R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    WI_01* R | 213 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    IL_06 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 —
    TX_07 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP) | 45/47 (GQR-D)
    IL_12 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/39 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    TX_23 R | 218 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 44/43 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (PPP)
    CA_10 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42 (Srategies 360-D)
    CA_48 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 —
    NY_19 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (PPP)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 42/27 incumbent favorability (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/42
    IA_01 R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    PA_17 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    WA_08* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 51/45
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (D Internal)
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.4 — 42/45 (PPP)
    VA_10 R | 200 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | -0.8 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    PA_07* R | 198 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -1 —
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    NV_03* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 —
    CA_49* R | 195 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2 —
    AZ_01 D | 192 | Ln D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.2 —
    NJ_02* R | 191 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.6 — 39/44 (PPP)
    NV_04* D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.8 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.2 —
    MN_07 D | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    NJ_05 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    PA_08 D | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4 —
    AZ_09* D | 183 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.4 —
    FL_13 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —
    CT_05* D | 177 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.2 —

    *indicates open seat

  694. DW says:

    MICHAEL MOORE: We Have to ‘Put Our Bodies on the Line’ to Stop President…

    Link at Drudge.

    That sort of language sounds like a very thinly veiled call for violence.

  695. janz says:

    “Unhinged” perfectly describes the ongoing & growing behavior of the left since the 2016 election. With the SCOTUS vacancy it’s going to be a very confrontational summer!

  696. janz says:

    #696. McCain doesn’t care anymore about doing the right thing. His passion in his remaining days is to be a relevant thorn in DJT’s side.

  697. paul says:

    707: ?

  698. DW says:

    The GOP baseball practice shooter last year who nearly killed Congressman Steve Scalise put his body on the line and lost his life.

  699. jason says:

    The fine people of AZ deserve two Senators voting on the issue, like the rest of the states.”

    I am sure the people of AZ are touched by your “concern”.

    Of course if McCain was a 100% litmus tested true conservative, I know you would be saying the same thing.

  700. jason says:

    His passion in his remaining days is to be a relevant thorn in DJT’s side.”

    I don’t agree with this, but IF it were true maybe next time Trump won’t be attacking the service record of a former POW who was injured, maimed and tortured and spent years in a prison camp.

    Again, I wish McCain would be bigger than Trump and ignore the personal side, but Trump has nobody to blame but himself if McCain won’t bury the hatchet.

  701. jason says:

    gives them some desperately needed “I CAN work with the President! See?” cover.”

    I don’t disagree, but first things first.

    The priority right now is to get a new justice confirmed.

  702. Blobbie says:

    I think Ginsburg’s apparent decision to remain on the Supreme Court may well have been a rebuke to Obama and the manner in which he conducted himself during his two terms.

  703. jason says:

    The MSM has no shame.

    “The AP review finds that the Steele dossier now appears to be a murky mixture of authentic revelations and repurposed history, likely interspersed with snippets of fiction or disinformation.”

    Translation: if a turd sandwich didn’t have a turd in it, it might be ok to eat.

    “Repurposed history”…..

    “Snippet of fiction or disinformation”

    Amoral Scumbag would be proud.

  704. jason says:

    Even if Amoral Scumbag had said Ginsburg was staying on due to Trump’s behavior, it would still be a lie.

    She is staying on because she is a far left moonbat.

  705. Phil says:

    is McCain a vindictive thin skinned egotist? I happen to think so. However, for Trump to have made the kind of idiotic and insulting remarks about McCain’s war record like a he did was inexcusable. He “prefers the ones that don’t get captured”? Give me a break. To go out of your way to say something that stupid and insulting is so far out of line. Yeah, this one’s on Trump. You kick someone in the nuts you can’t expect them to forgive and forget.

  706. Chicon says:

    712 – more dishonest misrepresentation of my position. The 100% litmus test garbage is found nowhere in anything I’ve written. In fact, earlier I laughed at Roberts being the center of the Court. Many have called him a failed pick because of 1 case. Not I.

    So why the need to lie about my position? Is it really a controversial position that a Senator who won’t be able to perform the duties of his office (assuming that is the case) should step aside for someone who can?

  707. Mr.Vito says:

    Gillebrand wants to abolish ICE now.

  708. Chicon says:

    Phil – 100% agree on Trump’s comments about McCain. He deserves McCain’s everlasting enmity. But do the people of his state (and those who supported him in 2008) deserve to be the ones he hurts with his anger? He’s mad at Trump, so he’ll take it out on the people?

  709. Mr.Vito says:

    “Gillebrand wants to abolish ICE now.”

    Seems like something easy for Trump to attack as wanting to protect criminal aliens like MS-13.

  710. Chicon says:

    720 – Bernie will love it. Maybe she’ll get his endorsement in 2020.

  711. NYCmike says:

    “Seems like something easy for Trump to attack as wanting to protect criminal aliens like MS-13.”

    -I am not much of a fan of ICE, since its creation in 2003 is just another layer of government. The role it performs had previously been handled by another part of the federal government. Both entities have NOT done their jobs very well, mainly because the political powers in charge did not want them be that successful.

    That said, if the Democrats want to run on ABOLISH ICE, I am all for Trump and Republicans to use that, combined with MS-13 “spark of divinity” to make the Democrats look bad.

  712. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t agree with this, but IF it were true maybe next time Trump won’t be attacking the service record of a former POW who was injured, maimed and tortured and spent years in a prison camp.”

    Just to clarify – Trump did make this repugnant remark. Was it in response to a criticism from McCain, or did Trump initiate the attack?

  713. janz says:

    It was a good event @ the WH today, celebrating the 6 mo anniversary of the tax cuts/jobs act. Having people discussing their benefits from it gave a personal touch and face to it as well. One thing you can praise Trump for is how he engages with workers & small business, and how he has opened up the WH to the “people,” replacing all the Hollywood elites Obama was known to invite in.

  714. janz says:

    Trump regularly slices and dices people who are not on his side. McCain has never been friendly to Trump, & so Trump paid him back with that POW comment. However, while McCain certainly has reasons to dislike Trump, his voting pattern, unnecessary hostile public remarks hurt the country more than it serves as a source of vindication for him. Consequently, I have no respect for the man anymore, despite his somewhat illustrious POW experience.

  715. NYCmike says:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/28/us/politics/trump-anthony-kennedy-retirement.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

    -I read this, and immediately asked myself “Is it true?”, simply because I don’t trust the source.

    The interesting thing is this: Robbie and I apparently agree on “not trusting the source”, since it is his old buddie “Maggie” writing the story, YET, Robbie keeps saying that Kennedy did NOT like Trump, and stayed on this last year because of him.

    Robbie, is “Maggie” still a trustworthy source?

    Will you be honest that you made up stories about Kennedy disliking Trump? Or is “Maggie” full of “it”?

  716. NYCmike says:

    I was going to link to a video of Gillibrand not realizing that Gorsuch got 3 Democratic votes, but the link was way too long. She is on with Cuomo on CNN.

    Pretty funny.

    BUT, also pretty pathetic that this person was elected to the United States Senate.

  717. Chicon says:

    Big Mike – what’s the phrase, all hat, no cattle? That’d be her. She’s a dolt.

    Big few days for the Isles, eh?

  718. DW says:

    729 – ironic I guess that some of the senators who vote the advise and consent of the SCOTUS nominee–thumbs up or thumbs down on whether or not the SCOTUS nominee is adequately qualified–some of these senators will not have half the IQ of the nominee.

  719. NYCmike says:

    Chicon,

    I am mixed in regard to Tavares. Really like him, but I personally believe they had enough talent several of those years to do something. I wish they signed him 3 years ago to a big contract (24yo-32yo), instead of now (27-34). I tend to be a pessimist when it comes to YUGE contracts after a certain age.*

    *If we were talking baseball, no-brainer. BUT, he has been playing for almost 10 years already. A lot of miles already.

  720. NYCmike says:

    The one thing that does make me want to sign him is that I trust Lamoriello more than I trust Garth Snow to get more talent around him.

  721. DW says:

    This was posted at RRH:

    “An ethics watchdog is calling on the Senate Ethics Committee to investigate Sen. Joe Manchin (D., W.V.) for use of taxpayer funds for travel from a California trip that included a lucrative fundraiser where he raised nearly $100,000 for his reelection campaign.”
    http://freebeacon.com/politics/watchdog-files-ethics-complaint-manchins-use-taxpayer-funds-fundraising-trip/

    Of course the $1,500 spent should be nowhere near as scandalous to WV voters as the fact that Manchin went to CA to get financial backing. I would think Morrisey could poke him on that saying if he wants to represent CA’s values, then he should move to CA and run.

  722. DW says:

    Generic Congressional Ballot of just Colorado – PPP (D)

    Democratic Candidate: 45%
    Republican Candidate: 40%
    Not Sure 14%

    This result suggests CO_03 is safe, even though Sabato says its just Likely R.

    CO_06 is rated a tossup by everyone but Gonzales who says Tilt R. But if the statewide gap is just 5 points, it would stand to reason the GOP has a great shot to hold CO_06.

  723. Chicon says:

    NYC, I fully understand on the big contract thing. The fat contracts of several Hawks have really started to handcuff them, especially not that their play has begun to slip. I’m not crying because they won 3 times, but big contracts can cause trouble.

  724. Chicon says:

    Should be now that…

  725. mnw says:

    Yikes! I don’t wanna see Michael Moore’s body “on the line” or ANYWHERE!

    What a ghastly mental image.

  726. Chicon says:

    738 – Absolutely. Of course he don’t wanna mine, either.

    I’m also glad Rosie O’Donnell didn’t say that.

  727. DW says:

    Trump to announce Kennedy replacement July 10th.
    I do like how Trump gets things done rather than needlessly wring hands over it for months.

  728. NYCmike says:

    That young woman who beat Crowley in Queens is pretty cute, to be honest.

    A wack-a-doo, but she looks good in a dress.

  729. NYCmike says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/photo-85-year-old-ruth-bader-ginsburg-planking-going-viral-justice-kennedys-scotus-retirement-news-123751787.html

    -Another wack-a-doo, but I do have to admit, I LOVE this woman! I can definitely see how her and Scalia were such good buddies.

    ALL of us should aspire to have the same spirit at her age!

  730. Chicon says:

    Agree, Mike, RBG’s spunky.

  731. Chicon says:

    Rumor has it that Walt had far more energy than Ruth way back when he was her age.

  732. mnw says:

    DW 740

    Absolutely agree! Don’t give them any extra time to make trouble. Do it while they’re still stunned!

    “If t’were done…would best be done quickly.”

    Macbeth

  733. Todd McCain says:

    I think McConnell is gonna get his way: THAPUR

  734. Chicon says:

    Thapur seems like a solid choice. Trump has done his due diligence on the choices, especially having the Federalist Society vet them. Far better than just having John Sununu or Warren Rudman vouch for him

  735. NYCmike says:

    “t’were”

    -Making up words…..Shakespeare is the Sarah Palin of the Renaissance.

  736. NYCmike says:

    Those attacks on Mitch’s wife, Elaine Chao……I hope they harden his resolve to the point that he realizes liberals/Democrats/media are the enemies of liberty and freedom-loving Americans.

  737. jason says:

    Just to clarify – Trump did make this repugnant remark. Was it in response to a criticism from McCain, or did Trump initiate the attack?”

    Does it matter? You know its wrong and disgusting either way.

  738. jason says:

    Thapur is my choice too.

    Let’s see how the Democrats try to destroy an Indian-American.

    It didn’t work too well with Nikki Haley in SC or Bobby Jindal in LA.

  739. Chicon says:

    NYC – Mitch is ok in my book. #Gorsuch.

  740. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “A recent attack ad by Demand Justice, a nonprofit that opposes Trump’s potential picks for the nation’s highest court, takes aim at Thapar, whom they call “one of the far-right judges” Trump is considering.

    Thapar, the ad alleges, is cozy with McConnell and wants to allow billionaires to spend unlimited amounts of money in elections. “Don’t let Trump and Thapar sell our government to the highest bidder,” it warned.”

    Sounds like Thapar is hated by the right people. That is reassuring.

  741. jason says:

    s it really a controversial position that a “s it “Is it really a controversial position tSenator who won’t be able to perform the duties of his office (assuming that is the case) should step aside for someone who can?”

    Feel free to advocate for your cheap little coup.

    I think McCain has earned the right to stay in the office the people of AZ elected him 6 times as long as he sees fit.

    Frankly, I don’t see THAT as a controversial position.

  742. jason says:

    and wants to allow billionaires to spend unlimited amounts of money in elections.”

    Like Steyer who is spending huge amounts of money to advocate for impeachment?

    And of course money doesn’t always decided elections, just look at Hillary.

    Or Jeb.

  743. DW says:

    Now they are saying announcement is July 9, and the list of finalists is five, including two women.

  744. jason says:

    I see Chicon’s new meme is that I am “lying” about his positions, claimed in two separate posts.

    Sorry, no free lunch here. I let the first one go by because as everyone knows, I prefer to be non-confrontational.

    If you support tariffs, you don’t support free trade.

    And you want to get rid of McCain for political reasons, let’s not pretend there is any altruistic motive.

    So GFY.

  745. NYCmike says:

    “Now they are saying announcement is July 9, and the list of finalists is five, including two women.”

    -I predict it will be Wednesday, July 4, as it will signify a new burst of freedom!

  746. NYCmike says:

    Free trade?

    Do you consider masturbation sex?

  747. jason says:

    Getting rid of Ice is an extreme position like Bunu’s call to abolish the “standing Army” or the Fed.

    Demonizing ICE is like demonizing the police, its not going to get you a lot of votes except from the choir.

    It’s nice to see the Dems have their own deadenders.

  748. Chicon says:

    757 – more intentional misrepresentations of my posts. I think someone gets a tad irrational about a certain Senator from AZ.

    Yep, no free lunch…when you lie about someone else’s position in order to make it easier to make your point, you’re gonna get called out on it. Deal with it. And GFY.

  749. Phil says:

    Thapar would be an excellent choice I think

  750. jason says:

    I think someone gets a tad irrational about a certain Senator from AZ.”

    Yeah, your cheap little coup ideas are very “rational”.

    You aren’t fit to lick McCain’s boots. He has done more for his country than 10,000 whining Chicons that think they have the right to demand he quit the office he was elected to because they don’t agree with some of his votes.

    Misrepresentation my ass.

  751. Chicon says:

    Lol. As if to prove the point I just made…

    Yep, misrepresentations. It’s your thing. No free lunch.

  752. jason says:

    I am sure the nun thing will be front and center when the whining begins:

    “Thapar is known as being tough but fair, Louisville lawyer Kent Wicker told the Courier Journal in 2016. “He is just interested in getting to the right answer,” Wicker said.

    Thapar once sentenced an 84-year-old nun to 35 months in prison for breaking into a uranium enrichment plant and splashing a storage bunker with human blood, and a woman to 18 years in prison for helping her jailed daughter get a dose of drugs that killed her.

    “He is conservative but no Clarence Thomas or Scalia,” Beverly Storm, a Democrat who practices in Boone County told the Courier Journal in 2016. “He is not a caveman.”

  753. Chicon says:

    Not a caveman?!?! Next!

  754. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Any Supreme Court nominee is going to be bombarded with questions about immigration by the Democrats at a confirmation hearing. Thapar would be in a unique position to answer them as he is the son of immigrant parents from India.

  755. BayernFan says:

    Do yall think that the Dem senator in Alabama will support the scotus pick?

  756. Chicon says:

    BF – I think he’s a no, because I think he knows that he is in a short term gig no matter what.

  757. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Headline from the leftist, anti-Trump AP.

    “Trump on hot streak: Court rulings, vacancy, summit plan
    WASHINGTON (AP) — A Supreme Court vacancy just fell in his lap, offering a chance to shape the court for decades. The current court handed him two favorable rulings in a single week. And there’s a Russia summit on the horizon, promising headlines for a week or more. President Donald Trump is enjoying quite a hot streak.
    Some of the good news is not of his making. Still, a series of welcome events has given the president a reprieve from images of migrant children being separated from their families at the border, as well as negative headlines about administrative chaos implementing his hardline immigration policies.
    Trump sought to keep the good vibes going Friday with an event marking the six-month anniversary of his tax cuts.
    “We are bringing back our beautiful American dreams,” Trump declared, as he used a celebratory East Room event with top aides and business owners to showcase the $1.5 trillion tax package passed last December.
    He declared recent growth an “economic miracle,” though there’s credit to be shared: Lower unemployment, fewer claims for jobless benefits and many other positive economic indicators reflect the slow and steady nine-year recovery that began under President Barack Obama.”

    What!!! Where are our trolls? Only a few days ago they were blasting Trump for his treatment of immigrant kids. They even used Trump’s fall in the Rasmussen poll (a poll they usually try to discredit) to claim Trump was doomed.

    How come every time the trolls claim Trump is on the ropes, he comes out with a knock-out punch? Trolls, you have failed.

  758. paul says:

    Trump’s sister has a high opinion of her fellow 3rd circuilt judge, Hardiman.

  759. jason says:

    Do yall think that the Dem senator in Alabama will support the scotus pick?

    Not a chance. This guy is doctrinaire union hall lawyer, as left as they come.

  760. Wobbles says:

    I am here.

    What’s the latest on Stormy?

  761. JC says:

    jason says:
    June 29, 2018 at 6:00 pm
    I think someone gets a tad irrational about a certain Senator from AZ.”

    Yeah, your cheap little coup ideas are very “rational”.

    You aren’t fit to lick McCain’s boots.

    —————————

    But you certainly seem fit to kiss that old cook’s @ss.

    The people of AZ do not deserve to be deprived of representation just because a useless vindictive turd who can’t even vote is clinging to his seat with a death grip.

    The people of AZ did not vote for that.

  762. jason says:

    ss well as negative headlines about administrative chaos implementing his hardline immigration policies.”

    LOL

    Here is how it works:

    The MSM comes up with the negative headlines, then they comment that the headlines are negative.

  763. jason says:

    “because a useless vindictive turd”

    That says so much about you, and nothing about McCain.

    Carry on.

  764. lisab says:

    BREAKING: Gloria Allred will be holding a press conference detailing the sexual assault allegations made by her client, a Chicago woman, against the President’s Supreme Court nominee

  765. jason says:

    But you certainly seem fit to kiss that old cook’s @ss.”

    I didn’t even know McCain was a cook.

    Talented cuss.

  766. jason says:

    BREAKING: Gloria Allred will be holding a press conference detailing the sexual assault allegations made by her client, a Chicago woman, against the President’s Supreme Court nominee”

    Unfortunately this is true.

    The announcement will state that the sexual assault charge is valid against ANY nominee, including women.

  767. Tina says:

    I think we can do better than half par.

    We do not need a bush mush pick.

  768. jason says:

    Trump’s sister has a high opinion of her fellow 3rd circuilt judge, Hardiman.”

    Yeah, she probably thinks he would be the hardest to confirm.

    That is why she has a “high opinion”.

  769. Tina says:

    Well Flynn and Mulehead agreed to another postponement of sentencing.

    Fuhrer needs “more time.”

    It will be postponed and almost a year since Flynn plead guilty to “lying to Pete the cheat.”

  770. Tina says:

    It mule appear that Fuhrer may be waiting for the Ig report on fisa to be out.

    Then, the matter is dropped.

    Gubment repays Flynn for the harm caused to him financially.

  771. jason says:

    Tina already tagged Thapar as a RINO?

    The guy Trump nominated to the Sixth Circuit?

    Who knew?

  772. Tina says:

    No, we can do better and you know it

    Why settle for half pad.

  773. Wobbles says:

    It mule appear that Fuhrer may be waiting for the Ig report on fisa to be out.

    Then, the matter is dropped.

    Gubment repays Flynn for the harm caused to him financially.”

    If that happens I will either kill myself or retire to Pogo Loco.

  774. jason says:

    Sorry, yesterday I said Thapar would be my pick.

    I want a minority or a woman to make the Dems suffer trying to destroy them.

    Thapar would be a stellar pick for other reasons, of course.

  775. Tina says:

    Looks like trump gave mullah Murkel two star bursts and told her that we are looking into withdrawing forces from Germany.

    Time to move out.

  776. Tina says:

    I want kavanaugh.

    Scalia 3.0

    Anything else is just ok.

    We disagree.

  777. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @chrislhayes
    “The President once again defending Russia’s innocence in electoral sabotage that *helped him get elected*, as he sets up a summit w Putin is the same as his “Russia, if you’re listening” moment. He’s telling them to keep going! He’s rooting them on.”

    Trolls!! This is your moment. Trump is meeting with his masterful co-conspirator Putin. They plan to dominate the world. You must issue a call to action!

    By the way, Rasmussen is showing Trump’s support now rising, so go back to trying to discredit it polling method.

  778. jason says:

    Kavanaugh is not a minority or a woman, so he would be my third choice.

  779. Blobbie says:

    BREAKING: Gloria Allred will be holding a press conference detailing the sexual assault allegations made by her client, a Chicago woman, against the President’s Supreme Court nominee”

    Unfortunately this is true.
    jason says:
    June 29, 2018 at 7:37 pm
    _________________________________________

    jason fraud’s support of Trump after these accusations is typical

  780. mnw says:

    Chicon

    jason misstates every poster’s positions constantly. It’s nothing personal. It’s just the way he argues. Always has, always will.

  781. jason says:

    So JC just drove by for the express purpose of calling 6 term Republican senator and war hero John McCain, who is suffering from brain cancer a turd.

    Now that is class.

  782. mnw says:

    I hope Trump does NOT try to be cute & play the “appoint a minority” card. So stupid to try that. No-one will hate him any less. No minority voter will change his mind because of one identity politics appointment.

    Pick the most rock solid, granite bottomed, MEAN, CONSISTENTLY conservative person on the list. Even half of those go bad when they start going to the gd cocktail parties, & the NYT allows that they may not be so bad after all..

  783. Chicon says:

    Agree Mnw. Note to the class – Thapur is a minority, given that his parents came from India.

  784. Ron N says:

    My money is Flynn case is dropped. As will Pap case no reason for the delays except for IG report. Media think they are still helping out the media just can’t see what is really going on only hoping and dreaming.

  785. Tina says:

    It is quite unusual for the sentencing to be delayed for a third time in the Flynn matter.

    He plead guilty in December,

    It is now postponed until Late August.

    Seems atypical as does the judges Brady request?

    Seems strange that the original judge was “removed.”

  786. lisab says:

    why annoyed?

  787. Chicon says:

    800 – he’s constipated.

  788. Tina says:

    awandstrike
    ·
    1h
    New development in the Flynn case: Presiding judge has demanded the Mueller team show cause on July 2nd, this coming Monday, why there needs to be another delay.

  789. J. Quest says:

    Nice blog you have here.

  790. Hadji says:

    Ditto.

  791. NYCmike says:

    jason says:
    June 29, 2018 at 7:57 pm

    Kavanaugh is not a minority or a woman, so he would be my third choice.

    -Isn’t it about time we get a transsexual non-binary aborigine person?

  792. janz says:

    My first SCOTUS choice would be Judge Kethledge. My 2nd is Barrett, and 3rd is Larsen. I don’t like Kavanaugh as he is associated with irregularities in the 1990s Vince Foster suicide. Barrett is young, around 46, and a woman, as is Larsen. Barrett was recently confirmed by 55, making it reasonable to believe she could get the same approval number for SCOTUS.

  793. janz says:

    Also, it is said that Trump would like to pick someone from the rust belt. Both Kethledge & Larsen deal with MI and Ohio. Barrett deals with WI. – all midwestern jurists.

  794. jason says:

    Everyone starting to lose with the stupid trade wars…

    “TORONTO (AP) — Canada announced billions of dollars in retaliatory tariffs against the U.S. on Friday in a tit-for-tat response to the Trump administration’s duties on Canadian steel and aluminum.

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s government released the final list of items that will be targeted beginning July 1. Some items will be subject to taxes of 10 or 25 percent.

    “We will not escalate and we will not back down,” Canadian Foreign Minister Chrystia Freeland said.

    The taxes on items including ketchup, lawn mowers and motor boats amount to $12.6 billion.

    “This is a perfectly reciprocal action,” Freeland said. “It is a dollar for dollar response.”

    Freeland said they had no other choice and called the tariffs regrettable.

    Many of the U.S. products were chosen for their political rather than economic impact. For example, Canada imports just $3 million worth of yogurt from the U.S. annually and most of it comes from one plant in Wisconsin, the home state of House Speaker Paul Ryan. The product will now be hit with a 10 percent duty.

    Another product on the list is whiskey, which comes from Tennessee and Kentucky, the latter of which is the home state of Republican Senate leader Mitch McConnell.

    Freeland also said they are prepared if U.S. President Donald Trump escalates the trade war.”

  795. jason says:

    Obviously I mean pick Thapar or a woman all other things being equal, not just because he is a minority.

    I really want to see the Dems try to destroy a minority or a woman.

    Everyone on that 5 person list is a conservative.

  796. jason says:

    Trump will probably re-escalate and Canada will follow suit, and it the end the AFL-CIO conservatives will get their wish, all out trade wars.

  797. jason says:

    jason misstates every poster’s positions constantly.”

    LOL

    I cut through the BS and call a spade a spade.

    I know, the truth hurts.

  798. mnw says:

    McCaskill is running A LOT of ads, & Hawley none that I have seen, anyway. (Internet ads do not count)

    Sky Queen’s ads come in 2 flavors:

    1) Hawley has taken campaign donations from sources which she characterizes as “DARK MONEY.” That is her catchphrase, & most of her ads are about “DARK MONEY.”

    2) To a lesser extent, her ads attempt to link Hawley to Greitens. (This is a considerable challenge since Hawley is to Greitens what I am to the late John Wayne Gacy.)

    Whatever DARK MONEY is, I wish Hawley had more of it.

  799. Tina says:

    My first choice for sc justice is Hillary.

    -Jebot

  800. mnw says:

    I am cool with Trump appointing a “minority,” as long as the “minority status” has NOTHING to do with the selection.

    Who would I like to see appointed? John Bolton; Laura Ingraham or Sarah Huckabee, if they could be confirmed, which they can’t. (You don’t have to be an atty to be on SCOTUS; not required.)

    A lot of the names on the list don’t have a sufficiently long conservative track record for my taste. Except for Sen. Lee, who has TOO MUCH track record to get confirmed, probably.

  801. mnw says:

    Tina

    Know why I sort of like the Ace of Spades blog? Because it’s like Denny’s– always open.

  802. Chicon says:

    811 – right, you cut through the bs by lying about what people have written? And this is then “the truth”?

    I love this place.

  803. Mr.Vito says:

    Let’s think this through, shall we?

    Suppose McCain abdicates… then there will be a rift in the GOP going into the election cycle over the replacement, as each side will demand someone Ward-like or McSally-like, if not those candidates themselves.

    Best that McCain waits until after the election, so the Governor can make the best pick without pressure from each side, which could lead to a milquetoast pick that puts the seat in jeopardy in the future.

  804. mnw says:

    Vito

    I think you got hold of the wrong end of that one. If McVain abdicates, Ducey (the gov) has already more or less said that he’ll appoint St. John’s widow to serve out his unfinished term. Hence, no infighting in AZ until after the 2018 GE, anyway.

    Having McCain’s empty desk there for the SCOTUS vote is fraught with peril.

    Chi

    Like I said, it’s nothing personal! zzzzz.

  805. Chicon says:

    Mnw – understood. Having a good time….

    What are the Blues up to this off-season?

  806. Mr.Vito says:

    “he’ll appoint St. John’s widow”

    You just made my point. He is already trying to avoid the danger I just mentioned, and

    “…which could lead to a milquetoast pick that puts the seat in jeopardy in the future.”

  807. mnw says:

    I’m behind on my beloved Bluuz– I haven’t kept up with their off-season much. Missing the playoffs saved me a lot of money. I’ve taken my 2 kids to the playoffs for years.

    On another subject, John James is a GOP candidate for MI Sen. He has an astonishing & ingenious ad featuring… a Hellfire missile! Never saw one of those up close before. Let alone in a campaign ad. Too bad James isn’t running in a more winnable race.

  808. mnw says:

    Vito

    OK, guess I didn’t read closely enough. My laser-like concern is winning the SCOTUS vote right now. McPain’s empty desk is tantamount to a “n”o vote.

  809. Chicon says:

    Good ad! Seems like a pretty solid guy.

  810. mnw says:

    I am going to bed now.

    If Wes were here, we could compare the relative merits of gin & brandy, as in the olden times. Wonder where he went off to? I crave somepolitical analysis of the 1926 off year election…Wes’ specialty!

  811. Mr.Vito says:

    I think my top two choices for SCOTUS pick for the GOP would be Lee and Barrett.

  812. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Senator Harry Reid@Senator Reid
    Thanks to all of you who encouraged me to consider filibuster reform. It had to be done.
    12:08 PM – 21 Nov 2013”

    Yes Senator, you were so right.

  813. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Lest we forget:

    “Remember when Republicans were clutching their pearls predicting that the country was doomed and Obama was going to tear up the Constitution and remain in office after the end of his 2nd term?”

  814. Messy says:

    Trump should nominated his sister. She’s a moderate Republican who’s pro-choice.

  815. Chicon says:

    I heard Trump’s sister disintigrates under pressure.

  816. Mr.Vito says:

    “Maybe we can have, like, a nuclear war and then we get a real course correction.”

    — Tom Steyer

  817. Tina says:

    Real con Jennifer Runin of the compost has threatened the Maine Chicklet over voting to confirm the future sc pick.

    Because, well you know, real cons do,not want any conservatives on the court after all.

  818. Tina says:

    Rubin.

    The Socialiston the Lido Deck is also concerned about selecting a conservative.

    Finally, no reports from Navarro, The store was having a sale on donuts for the Fourth of July,

  819. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Tina
    Yes, Jen”The Red Hen” Rubin has now called for a boycott of LL Bean in Maine and Alaska Cruise Lines in Alaska in order to coerce Collins(R-ME) and Murkowski(R-AK) to oppose ALL Trump Supreme Court nominees.

  820. mnw says:

    Good morning. Are we energized yet? If impeachment, abolishing ICE (open borders), AND a SCOTUS fight won’t do it, then “enthusiasm parity” is an impossible dream.

    SDC 829

    I’m curious who you’re quoting there. Almost all my pals detested Zero, but I don’t remember anybody expressing those sentiments. I remember a lot of the same leftist loons who want to impeach Trump saying that about W, however.

  821. Chicon says:

    The pressure on Murkowski and Collins will be immense – they’ll be the woman that made other women go into the famous back alley for abortions.

    Glad Trump met with them. Hopefully he got them to indicate which members of the list would be acceptable.

  822. mnw says:

    Immense is right. They still have to run in GOP primaries, however. That is often overlooked, imo. I know I posted this before, but: I doubt Murkowski wants to re-live her recent experience of losing one.

  823. Tina says:

    Only if Hillary had proposed abolishing Ice would she have won.

    -Jebot

  824. Chicon says:

    Collins is up in 2020, but she got 68% of the vote last time. So, maybe the political pressure won’t be quite as effective. But the personal pressure will be huge.

    Murkowski isn’t up until 2022, and won the Republican primary in 2016.

  825. Tina says:

    The Maine Chicklet and Senator Planned Parenthood could be problems.

  826. Chicon says:

    Collins and Murkowski are both pro-choice, making them more at risk of the “it is up to you to save abortion rights for women” meme.

  827. Mr.Vito says:

    Just pick the right choice. Since Bork, they all hide the ball on any controversial cases during questioning anyway.

  828. mnw says:

    The voters who will try to bring “immense personal pressure” on those two senators wouldn’t be caught DEAD voting for EITHER of them– not if there was a viable liberal DEM alternative, they wouldn’t. And M & C know that.

    It would be like me trying to bring “immense personal pressure” on Sky Queen! She knows voters like me would never vote for her, not even if she divorced her husband & married Jared.

    The fact that Murkowski won her LAST GOP primary, I would suggest, doesn’t mean she’s forgotten her political near-death experience in the primary she lost to a Tea Party activist.

    I think people are misunderestimating the immense pressure that will come from GOP conservative activists– particularly in AK, where WMs constitute a disproportionate share of the state’s population.* There is NOTHING a GOP senator could do that would enrage the GOP base more than voting “no” on a Trump SCOTUS nominee. NOTHING.

    *what women say about marriage prospects in Alaska: “The odds are good, but the goods are odd.”

  829. Tgca says:

    It just shows you how divided the country is that folks are predicting doom when the SCOTUS nominee has not even been announced.

    My take is that SCOTUS will take great care on ABORTION and refrain from an outright ban due to its 45 year history of legality.

    Absent scientific evidence (which I think will eventually change hearts and minds on this issue), I doubt an outright ban or reversal will occur. The political impact would be enormous and the GOP would lose significant women, younger, and independent voters for decades to come that would outweigh the ABORTION foes who cheered the ban on. I know many GOP or conservatives who are personally against ABORTION but do not want to see a outright ban without guaranteeing the safety of women seeking alternative solutions because of the risks.

    According to CDC stats, there were approx 650K ABORTIONS in 2014 and that is equivalent to about 16 to 18% of live births in recent years. Therefore, this is significant impact on society and my guess is public opinion would be against a group of conservative guys altering a nearly 50 year precedent without significant public opinion on their side.

    However, I could see some continued watering down of ABORTION rights as in the recent past but that is because those were not considered significant changes to the right to ABORTION in the public’s eyes.

    Like others, SCOTUS often takes into consideration the pulse of the nation when making decisions, and I suspect they will do here.

  830. Chicon says:

    Mnw – I see your points, but I’ll stick to my position that those two are at risk. Trump brought in 3 red state Dems for input, and two Republican Senators. He thinks they’re at risk of voting no.

  831. Chicon says:

    Hello, Tgca. SCOTUS took into account the pulse of the people in Roe. Conservatives on the bench actually take the reverse approach – they believe they are to interpret the constitution as written. It is the job of legislators to use the pulse of the people, whatever that may be. If Roe goes, that’s what we’ll finally get.

  832. Tgca says:

    I believe the same goes with gay marriage. I could not imagine in this day and age, where gays are so intricately entwined in every facet of life in the US, that a couple of conservative guys would go against the significant majority of the US to take away marriage rights after 3 years, or up to 15 years in cases of states allowing marriage. 75% of states allowed gay marriage prior to SCOTUS legalization in 2015 so I can’t imagine SCOTUS going backwards with public opinion for gay marriage in the 65% range. It seems crazy and just cruel and would be tantamount to rolling back women’s rights. I just don’t see it happening without UUGE change in US demographics.

    Again, SCOTUS has historically shown itself to change with increased public opinion and I think that is the case for gay marriage. It is here to stay until gays no longer exist in significant numbers. Depending on what stats you believe, gays make up 4 to 6% of the population which is significantly more than many other groups such as Jewish and on par or greater than many ethnicities.

    So I think folks should step back and take a perspective on this before overreacting.

  833. lisab says:

    California mother and boyfriend charged with the murder of her 10-year-old son just weeks after he came out as gay

  834. mnw says:

    He, Tg

    I agree with your analysis on abortion. They will likely nibble around the edges of Roe, but that’s all.

    I think the odds of Roe ever being overturned outright are infinitesimally small. I wish it were otherwise ,I guess, although it’s not my personal obsession. Sort of like 2nd Amendment issues– I respect the wishes of the allied tribe, but it just isn’t something that would motivate me to write an extra check, or go ring doorbells, instead of sitting here drinking oovfefe.

    Chi

    I see the private meeting with M & C as being, “Are there any names on the list you couldn’t support? If so, tell me which ones.” I continue to think that the one fatal mistake Trump could make would be to nominate Sen. Lee, but I don’t think he will.

  835. Tgca says:

    849 Chicon

    I do not believe that conservative jurists rely simply on the constitution and don’t let their personal views or bias come into play. I don’t believe that about anyone, left or right.

    The US Constitution was silent on ABORTION and gays, as it was also originally explicitly bigoted to African Americans by allowing for their slavery and women with respect to property rights and voting, things we find abhorrent today.

    I believe in the concepts of the US Constitution but to say that it should ALL be taken as literally today as intended when written is absurd.

    As much as I agree with many of the more conservative decisions by SCOTUS, I do not believe that those decisions are free from bias and interpretation, though I believe they may be good for the US in general.

    I find it hard to believe that someone like Thomas Jefferson would believe in slavery if he were alive today. In fact, I will go further and say that I would believe if we were all living 250 years ago, most here at HHR would probably agree with slavery and oppression of women’s rights. Now that should get me some flack from many here today for accusing them of being bigots in another time with no proof. 🙂

  836. Mr.Vito says:

    “…explicitly bigoted to African Americans by allowing for their slavery and women with respect to property rights and voting, things we find abhorrent today.”

    Both of which are now unconstitutional due to the amendment process put into place, rather than determined by judicial fiat.

  837. Tgca says:

    MNW

    I agree on ABORTION. I think it is equivalent to infanticde, especially partial birth ABORTION. I think this right to ABORTION is so engrained in our society that the only way it changes is that someday scientific evidence will prove that a fetus can experience pain and fear in it’s destruction, depending on development status of the fetus, and becomes self-aware if it’s doom. There is already evidence that shows that during an abortion the fetuses heart rate significantly increases to 200 bpm and therefore may be self-aware of its destruction. I truly believe that only then if this is ever proven will people then accept that ABORTION is murder. Until then, many people will not accept a developing fetus is alive or a person.

  838. Tina says:

    It could be the Maine Chicklet realizes that she will have support for appointing the conservative pick.

    Looking at the numbers, Maine was close in 2016 within 3 points, and trump took the cd pick.

    The Ak sea porker aka sen planned parenthood should also fall in line.

  839. Tgca says:

    855

    …but were constitutional for decades and upheld by jurists of the times so it does not change the fact of the original documents embedded bigotry.

    …in other words, by today’s standards, the SCOTUS jurists were bigoted, as I’m sure by some standards in the distance future, those of us today may be labeled bigots for future constitutional changes to laws we readily accept today as fair.

    Times do have a reflection on the US Constitution and SCOTUS, otherwise we would never have been able to grow and be successful as a nation.

  840. lisab says:

    in 2016, trump did not have a strong gotv team

    he will have at least 500 million in his campaign chest for 2020, given he will not have a serious challenger in the primaries

    (assuming he does not get into serious legal or other problems, like mueller’s investigation)

    i think trump will be very formidable in 2020

  841. Mr.Vito says:

    “…but were constitutional for decades and upheld by jurists of the times so it does not change the fact of the original documents embedded bigotry.”

    which is relevant to what exactly?

    “Times do have a reflection on the US Constitution and SCOTUS…”

    That is correct, the times warrant new legislation, and/or amendments to the constitution as popular opinion changes… the SCOTUS is not granted the power to create law.

    If you would like it to create law, then you should pass an amendment allowing it to do that.

  842. Tgca says:

    860

    I’m glad you agree with me then on this. Times often impact how SCOTUS reaches decisions just as it does to how legislators legislate. That was the point.

  843. Mr.Vito says:

    The founders guaranteed first amendment rights to speech, religion, and the press so that we could openly debate the topics of our time and form popular opinion over what is good for us as a people.

    They gave us the second amendment to secure these liberties from the tyranny that would suppress such rights.

    They gave us a legislative and amendment process to encode these ideas into our changing society.

    They gave us an executive branch to see that the ideas are put forth into our society.

    They gave us a judicial branch to determine whether the ideas are consistent and consistent in being carried out.

    I happen to believe this is the correct way to implement new norms into society, and that not adhering to this process will bring about the kind of chaos we see in our political system today.

  844. Tgca says:

    To clarify, I am not suggesting SCOTUS create its own law; that should be up to the legislature and POTUS to sign. But we all should agree that SCOTUS interprets law and makes decisions based on that to remedy the law’s constitutionality which is often based on their personal beliefs. It’s an imperfect system but it generally works pretty well in the long run.

  845. Mr.Vito says:

    To note that ideas change over time are EXACTLY why SCOTUS should be reading the text as originally written for its time.

    Our laws are not written to apply generally over time to cases that are not under consideration at the time. They are written with a specific context and set of axioms in mind.

  846. Tgca says:

    862

    Generally agreed but it’s a different story when you’re in the minority that was harmed. The fact that millions, lived and died under slavery or the inability to own property or vote because the founding fathers deemed them not worthy is a long-lasting stain on our history and why many do not revere the US Constitution the way some do. I’m not saying they should’ve done better at the time because I don’t think they could have done much better given the times and circumstances. But we can’t ignore the mistakes of history either. I’m sure in the distant future many will blame people of today for making similar errors in judgment.

  847. Mr.Vito says:

    “But we can’t ignore the mistakes of history either.”

    At least 600,000 sons of our founders died for that mistake before it was corrected.

    They did not get off scot-free.

  848. Tgca says:

    864

    But there needs to be a process for progress with the times that are reasonable and we have to ensure the select few do not cause harm to the oppressed. It is why SCOTUS has interpretive power and has used it over the years. Sometimes in good faith and sometimes not.

    Without SCOTUS in 1954, we could have gone another 20 years or more before AA were given equal access to education and other rights .

    So though I agree there needs to constitutional structure to rely upon, often we need leaders or other remedies to help push society to a better good instead of waiting for demographic changes to occur.

  849. mnw says:

    I don’t believe in the concept of “stains on our history,” or of stains on any other country’s history.

    All that is, is “presentism”– applying today’s standards to another era. Its the worst accusation you can make against a professional historian.

    If you start talking about stains, all human history becomes a “stain.” There is just history, & nothing but. The first history (that I know of) was written by the Sumerians. Since then, when has history ever been anything BUT a “stain”? Assuming, of course, you want to apply a 2018 mindset to the Sumerians.

  850. Tgca says:

    I doubt the founders felt the pain or lived the agony through the loss of their generations long after they were gone. …and for the Civil War being the travesty it was, in terms of loss of life and brothers killing brothers, it only happened because a few chose to push it instead of waiting until everyone came around to the concept.

  851. Mr.Vito says:

    “But there needs to be a process for progress with the times…”

    We have one… it is called free speech and elections.

  852. Tgca says:

    MNW

    I get your point but I believe the vast majority today and in the future will view slavery and oppression of women rights as a stain in our history. I agree all history has some stain but it is from those stains we should learn, though it appears we often do not.

  853. Tgca says:

    870

    …and SCOTUS review of laws. They serve just as important purpose as does the legislative and POTUS branches of our government. We are a country with majority rule but minority rights as well.

  854. Mr.Vito says:

    Brown versus Board did not create rights or laws.

    It correctly decided that its implementation was not meeting the standard set by the 14th amendment.

  855. Mr.Vito says:

    “its implementation”

    “it” being “separate but equal” policy

  856. Mr.Vito says:

    “SCOTUS review of laws.”

    SCOTUS only ‘reviews’ laws that are already made… by definition of review, in fact… to determine whether they are consistent with the existing constitutional law

    They do have no authority to determine what should be law.

  857. Tgca says:

    873

    If you’re saying that SCOTUS in 1954 correctly implemented what should have been implemented decades earlier, than that ignores that all branches of government were either inept or purposely not mindful of the original intent of equality. That argues for the need of an interpretative body as in 1954 then.

    …and based on my reading years back, Warren specifically lobbied the court to make it a unanimous decision, not to remedy an implementation error from the onset but because he believed the timing was right where it was nearly impossible to get the same result decades earlier and the court had to send a unified message.

  858. mnw says:

    OK, then. Lincoln was a stain. His views on racial issues, which he COPIOUSLY expressed, would render him the worst racist who ever lived… if you view him through a 2018 viewfinder.

    I reference “The Fiery Trial: Abraham Lincoln and American Slavery,” by Harvard historian Eric Foner. The famous Lincoln-Douglas debates, contra present day happy talk about this wunnerful exercise in enlightened political discourse, consisted of Douglas endlessly calling Lincoln… a word so bad I can’t even type it here…& Lincoln defending himself by essentially saying, “That’sjust not true! I think blacks are just as inherently inferior as you do.”

  859. Tgca says:

    874

    There was NEVER a “separate but equal” policy implemented. Hence, the Brown decision and why Warren lobbied for a unanimous decision.

  860. Tgca says:

    877 MNW

    Yes, Lincoln has been rightly criticized for some of his actions. That does not mean in totality that he did not do or provide benefits to the country that are well regarded. But you cannot ignore that some of his actions were concerning and illegal by both the standards of the time and today. He simply got away with it, as many politicians do.

    For example, look at FDR. He is generally well regarded as a president but he committed some very concerning actions during his term such as imprisoning American citizens in concentration camps because of their ethnicity. That is a stain on his presidency but it doesn’t take away in totality his place in history.

  861. Mr.Vito says:

    “…than [sic] that ignores that all branches of government were either inept or purposely not mindful of the original intent of equality. That argues for the need of an interpretative body as in 1954 then.”

    Plessy vs Ferguson specifically stated that the separate facilities had to be equal to satisfy the 14th amendment

    Brown versus Board was able to demonstrate after time that the implementation did not lead to that standard.

    So what you said does not follow…

  862. Chicon says:

    Stuff “granted” by SCOTUS is at risk of going away when a new justice shows up. Permanence happens thru Amendments. Judicial consevatives believe it is wrong for social change to originate at SCOTUS. Brown interpreted an Amendment. Roe granted a “constitutional” right out of whole cloth. Enormous difference.

  863. Tgca says:

    875

    Like it or not, SCOTUS has been providing remedies for what it believes are incorrect law for over 200 years. I don’t nevessarily agree with them but this has been their MO in certain instances and often the Legislatture and POTUS let them do it. Congress could have passed laws in 1973 or thereafter to specifically make ABORTION illegal and if signed by POTUS, it would have challenged SCOTUS but they chose not to go that route.

    You don’t have to disagree with SCOTUS on an issue to let them know that they are not the law-making authorities. My view is that ABORTION should have been left to Congress and that Congress should have challenged SCOTUS by telling them it was not their place to make new law.

  864. Mr.Vito says:

    “Stuff “granted” by SCOTUS is at risk of going away when a new justice shows up.”

    This is exactly right. And it is the activism that has led to the insanity of the left (see my previous statement… “I happen to believe this is the correct way to implement new norms into society, and that not adhering to this process will bring about the kind of chaos we see in our political system today.”)

    If you hang your hat on five justices and say, well, they are just moving with the times… what happens if the times lead back toward tyranny, hatred, or bigotry? Then you are leaving your freedoms and rights to the whims of five justices.

  865. Messy says:

    In case you’re interested, look up the case of Engleblom v. Carey, from the 1980s, which is a perfect example of the issue of incorporating the bill of rights into the 14th amendment.

    The best part about it is that it’ll never be adjudicated again.

  866. Mr.Vito says:

    “Like it or not, SCOTUS has been providing remedies for what it believes are incorrect law for over 200 years.”

    Some SCOTUS have, and some have not.

    Like it or not, SCOTUS does not have the authority to do so, and just like Obama’s executive orders, such rulings not grounded in the constitution can be removed in an instant by your own standard.

  867. Tgca says:

    880

    Nobody seriously believed that Plessy was a just decision and it is generally regarded by historians as a low point of the court. To believe that the states would implement an equal but separate doctrine back then was absurd. There was no way that AA were going to be provided the same equal quality in separate facilities. These jurists knew that as well as did the states. That is why this decision has been rendered useless by other decisions over the years.

  868. Tgca says:

    885

    I think we agree here. This entire discussion resulted not because we believe SCOTUS has the right to make law but because we believe SCOTUS is influenced by the times and that is often reflected in its decisions no matter how much they try to rationalize their decision.

    That being the case, I believe that sometimes that influence has resulted in judgments that are better for the country, and at other times I think it has not.

  869. Mr.Vito says:

    ” To believe that the states would implement an equal but separate doctrine back then was absurd.”

    It is their job to interpret the law. Not to determine motive (unless you are one of the four liberals)… that is the same idea as was just ruled in the travel ban.

    If, however, it is demonstrated later that the effect of the ban IS TO DISCRIMINATE against Muslims, then it should be ruled unconstitutional.

  870. Tgca says:

    883

    Again, generally agree but you can also argue the right does the same thing at times. I tend to hang my hat on certain decisions rather than the ideology of the jurists themselves which is often not without bias or their political leanings.

    I truly do believe most of us are a product of the generations, upbringing, and experiences that influence how we were bred and think and therefore apply that to what we do in life.

  871. Mr.Vito says:

    I don’t think conservative justices should legislate from the bench either.

  872. Chicon says:

    887 – being “influenced by the times” IS making law. What you describe is a non-democratic action. The job of SCOTUS is to interpret the constitution and the laws written by Congress and states. Roe removed abortion from the democratic process by “being influenced by the times”.

  873. Tgca says:

    890

    Agreed. This happens at every level of Justice I believe so it’s certainly not limited to SCOTUS.

  874. Tgca says:

    891

    Numerous decisions did that. To think that SCOTUS is not influenced by the times ignores history.

  875. Mr.Vito says:

    “being influenced by the times”

    Think about it… we just had several SCOTUS decisions on FREE SPEECH just went 5-4 that should have been 9-0.

    That the court’s interpretation of what a candidate for office might have meant during the campaign is relevant when deciding whether any act under their constitutional authority is permitted.

    That the government can compel a person to give money to an association they do not agree with and do not want to be represented by.

    That the government can compel a group to support an action contrary to their stated beliefs (pro-life group forced to provide abortion information)

    That the government can compel some people to create content or participate in an event based on what the state decides is speech worth protecting (7-2, but probably 5-4 more broadly)

    I think this may have scared the living sh!t out of Kennedy, and he decided to get an originalist like Gorsuch back onto the court now in his place, rather than leave it to chance.

  876. Chicon says:

    893 – in your mind, what’s the difference between being influenced by the times, and making law?

  877. Messy says:

    Roe V. Wade was a 7-2 bipartisan decision.

    White and Rehnquist were the two dissenters. They were both catholics.

  878. Messy says:

    792. Typical conservative fraud. Jeez!

  879. Tgca says:

    895. Chicon

    The constitution is silent on many issues. Does that mean they can’t be interpreted u Dee the Constitution to what’s best for society at a time they later surface? Expression in film can be considered a freedom of speech. Is that to say that because film did not exist at the time and later SCOTUS interpreted that as an example of free speech, it was an activist de idiot? What about shouting fire in a crowded theater? Would that narrow opinion be considered the court being activist?

    Aren’t many of the rights we have today because of interpretations of the court that some consider activism? I guess it depends whether the issue at hand is one you agree with or not.

    As long standing principle has held, you can’t tell the court all it can say is “yay or nay,” and anything else they do is considered activism. That has not stood the test of time, and as far as I know, Congress has NEVER told the court that as well. People have been complaining about activist jurists for aeons so unless the behavior is egregious, SCOTUS generally has the last say unless Congress chooses to enact a new law. Without this balance, I doubt we would have survived as a Republic for nearly 250 years.

    So though I often agree that certain decisions appear activist in nature, I believe this is less about political affiliation and more about personal biases or ideology.

  880. Chicon says:

    “The constitution is silent on many issues. Does that mean they can’t be interpreted u Dee the Constitution to what’s best for society at a time they later surface?”

    How can one “interpret” when the thing being interpreted is silent? The answer to your question is yes. Congress has that job.

  881. Tgca says:

    900!!!

  882. Tgca says:

    899

    Then I think we can agree to disagree.

    I don’t think any serious historian believes the Founding Fathers intended to say that if it is not specifically in the constitution in certain words, then there is no room for interpretation what we meant and only the legislature can decide by enacting new law. We know this is not true because the court has been making interpretations since the Founding Fathers were still alive and there was no great uproar by them or updates to the Constitution limiting SCOTUS interpretation. Why would the Founding Fathers not act upon this in the early years and nip it in the bud?

    In addition, as has been precedent for 200+ years, SCOTUS has looked to the record of both Congress and Founding Fathers writings to make interpretations. If Congress does not like a SCOTUS decision, then they can simply pass new law but that has not been the history so I would say the way you think it should work is not only the way it does not work, but it has not been historically.

  883. Chicon says:

    If it’s not in the constitution, the Congress is free to pass a law on the topic in question. If they don’t, it is not the Supreme Court’s job to act as a 2nd legislature and do it themselves. Congress makes the laws, the Executive enforces them, and the Judiciary interprets them.

  884. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The importance of limited government needs to also be emphasized. My feeling is the judiciary needs to pull back from legislating; and the legislative branch should respect the right of the people to mostly govern themselves.

    “Tocqueville warned against centralized control; he was favorably impressed by American opposition to overweening government. He was struck, too, by how much America tends to “govern itself,” leaving little to the professional administrators. This notion was essential also to the American Founders whom he so greatly admired. In Federalist 47, James Madison wrote that “the accumulation of powers legislative, executive, and judiciary in the same hands . . . may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny.”

  885. Tgca says:

    902

    After this, no sense in further discussing with you since you ignore that the act of interpretation by SCOTUS is permitted, and it’s not just “yay or nay” on whether a law is constitutional. In deciding cases, right or wrong, they have historically interpreted both the Founding Father’s intentions, as well as Legislature’s intentions in making their decisions, and under this interpretation authority, they have also ordered actions and consistently have done so for 200+ years without being reversed either by Congressional Act or a constitutional amendment. Sometimes these decisions benefited liberals and sometimes they benefit conservatives.

    People can whine and complain all they want about SCOTUS but a 200+ year precedent back to the time of the Founding Fathers exists for how SCOTUS administrates cases and it has not been overturned by an Act of Congress so they will continue this process until challenged in the future. In fact, SCOTUS had some early decisions produced that gave them certain authority not explicit in the Constitution and it has stood the test of time so good luck with getting either liberal or conservatives jurists to change something that gives them certain powers that have not been successfully challenged since the beginning of our Republic.

    Complain about activist jurists all you want. All I’m saying is it happens on both sides of the aisle depending where you stand on in issue and SCOTUS does have inherit biases like all the rest of us.

  886. Tgca says:

    903

    Generally, agree. But you know as well as I do, this has been going on since the beginning of the Republic. Often when people don’t like a decision they say it’s an activist court. When they like a decision they say the court applied the law correctly. It’s just human nature to whine and complain about these things. We are all guilty of it.

    The only way to ensure decisions are made in your favor is to rally folks to vote so that whoever wins gets to decide what kind of judges get on the court when the time comes for putting them there, as we generally can tell from previous jurist decisions and ideology how they will vote on an issue with high probability.

  887. Tgca says:

    I am wondering if enough of our friends on the East Coast have been impacted by the Comcast outage where they cannot post today at HHR. I don’t think I’ve come across one posting yet today where Jason hasn’t called somebody an amoral scumbag.

  888. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    869. “I doubt the founders felt the pain or lived the agony through the loss of their generations long after they were gone. …and for the Civil War being the travesty it was, in terms of loss of life and brothers killing brothers, it only happened because a few chose to push it instead of waiting until everyone came around to the concept.”

    Tgca, you have a point. There certainly was an argument that the South should have been allowed to just leave the United States. Its economy was an anachronism — the Industrial Revolution was replacing human slaves with machinery slaves. (It was oh so convenient that society morally turned against slavery after it was no longer necessary economically).

    The loss of life in the Civil War was appalling; have heard estimates as high as 600,000. I cannot justify the Civil War. I don’t consider Lincoln a good president for letting the carnage continue. Nor was there a satisfactory outcome to justify the lives lost.

  889. Chicon says:

    Sorry, Tgca, don’t mean to upset you. I guess I just don’t understand what you mean when you say you don’t want them to make up law, but want them to go with the times.

    I’ll abide by your wish, and drop it. The horse is fully dead! Hope you’re feeling well.

  890. Tgca says:

    908

    Ha ha. Chicon

    I am not upset. I just see no point in going around in circles in both of us are getting the same thing over and over. So sometimes it’s best to say let’s just agree to disagree and move on.

  891. Tgca says:

    908

    I’m not saying I want them to do either. All I’m saying is that as human beings, they often let personal bias creep into their decisions, especially with what’s going on in the world around them. So unless the bias is egregious I can’t fault them for that because we all do that. I look at all the posts here, including my own, and they include bias and judgment to some degree that others may see differently. That’s all I was trying to get out, and that not all bias is bad, depending on what side of the issue you’re on.

  892. Chicon says:

    909 – 🙂

  893. mnw says:

    First time I can ever remember seeing a legal philosophy debate at HHR! We’re more, “GFY!” “No! YOU GFY!”

    I hope all the talk about abolishing ICE (Fauxcahontas has now signed on) will make people aware that what the DEMs are aiming for is open borders.

    I also hope it may create enthusiasm parity before the GE.

  894. Tgca says:

    907 SDC

    I believe the Civil War was one of the worst travesties that is ever happened within a country. Do you basically have brother turn on brother is the worst in my opinion. So many senseless deaths.

    One of the issues, I had with some of our presidents and military leaders in the 1800s and 1900s is that I often believe they were more concerned sometimes with perception over loss of life. Sometimes I feel like people were all too willing to go to war without fully understanding the implications and the potential outcomes.

    Though I believe Lincoln did many great things for our country as a leader, I do believe he is open to criticism for some harsh realities as well. He was an extremely political individual.

  895. Chicon says:

    Yep, it seems the A-hole interwebs are on the fritz.

  896. Tgca says:

    Mnw

    I don’t have time to discuss ICE today but that is a total different argument. I think it’s crazy that some people are even advocating doing away with that agency. Do they even realize what that means? To me, it’s like those who say let’s do away with all weapons or the military. We would be invaded within minutes of doing that.

  897. Mr.Vito says:

    Keep MS-13! Deport ICE!

  898. Tgca says:

    To be fair, I do not believe the vast majority of the Dems wish to outright abolish ICE. I think they are stuck in a bad position right now because the left-wing activist base of their party is pushing for such things and they are in the middle of an upcoming election and probably not sure how to handle this without alienating those they need to help them win selected seats. We’ve seen this on the GOP side in the past where litmus tests are expected by radical right.

  899. lisab says:

    name one thing accomplished by trump that could not have been accomplished by jeb bush or rubio …. swervin06 on twitter

    he got elected president … brit hume

  900. lisab says:

    there have been 181 mass shootings this year!

  901. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @realDonaldTrump
    I will be making my choice for Justice of the United States Supreme Court on the first Monday after the July 4th Holiday, July 9th!

  902. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “But were pollsters actually mistaken in 2016? According to Lee Miringoff, director of the Marist Poll and an assistant professor of political science at Marist College, pollsters didn’t call the Trump-Hillary Clinton contest incorrectly. It was political data analysis sites that got people thinking that Trump had no chance.

    “That’s wrong,” Miringoff said in panel discussion featured on “What America’s Thinking,” Hill.TV’s new show about public opinion, when asked about the common perception that pollsters messed up in 2016.

    “I think there was a whole bunch of other stuff going on, but there were also these forecasters who really took hold. FiveThirtyEight, YouGov, HuffPost — they were the ones who were ‘modeling’ things. They were taking some polls, putting it in their special sauce,” Miringoff told host Joe Concha in reference to several sites that featured probability analyses based upon aggregated polling data.

    All of the major political data publications pegged Clinton’s chances of victory at greater than 70 percent. FiveThirtyEight, which is now owned by ABC News, gave Trump the highest probability, 29 percent, a decision that some left-leaning political observers criticized.”

    Robbie needs to lay off the special sauce.

  903. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    June 30, 2018 at 8:12 pm

    Robbie needs to lay off the special sauce.

    – What makes this so laughable is it comes from someone who thinks Rasmussen is credible.

  904. Robbie says:

    The more I think about the finalists for the Supreme Court, the more I think Amy Coney Barrett is the best choice. The conservative movement could very much use an exceptionally smart female writing important opinions and countering the drivel that comes from Ruth Bader Ginsburg or Sotomayor.

  905. Bitterlaw says:

    I missed a Civil War discussion? Damn.

    As for the loss of life during the war, it is only appalling that Union casualties were so high Confederate losses? Zzzzzzzzzzh

  906. mnw says:

    TX-27 special election result:

    I’d call it good news. The R won the seat outright by getting over 50%. This is the Corpus Christi seat formerly held by (pervert) Rep. Farenthold (R). He resigned because of his zipper issue, thus forcing the special election today.

    This is a Latino-majority seat, at least on paper, according to The Wise Men.

    Remember! Special elections are ONLY significant if the DEM wins. It’s hard to detect an enthusiasm gap tonight, imo.
    .

  907. Tina says:

    https://spectator.org/the-collapse-of-the-never-trump-conservatives/

    This article could also be called the collapse of the Rino.

  908. Cash Cow TM says:

    Diamond Jim,

    Walt says thanks for the Edmund Fitzgerald song (since Walt, the Mrs. and I are visiting WI and Lake Superior area).

    Went to Duluth this evening.

    Lots of main roads blown out by floodwaters from a few weeks ago. Including Highway 2 (main road from Ashland to Duluth)
    Tried to take back road detours on other hard surface roads and they were blown out as well.

    Eventually made it to Duluth for dinner and shopping. Home again…heading for bed.

  909. Tgca says:

    After seeing the movie Deliverance on DVD some years back, I NEVER take the backroads when traveling the south or upper Midwest where those GOPers dwell. No thank you!!! Ain’t gonna do it! No way Jose!

  910. Tgca says:

    Link to Trump’s Top 5 SC nominees to replace Kennedy per Newsmax. I think because the Court, like the nation is divided, we need someone with the skills of Warren to build consensus in the Court. Therefore, my top 5 compared to the link below follows. A tad bit different than the link but would make for an interesting Court me thinks.

    Chris Christie
    Rudy Giuliani
    Jeanine Pirro
    Mark Levin
    Sarah Palin (she can get a law degree online)

    https://www.newsmax.com/john-gizzi/supreme-court-donald-trump-anthony-kennedy/2018/06/30/id/869324/

  911. Tgca says:

    Maxine says “you better shoot straight.”

    I’m outraged by this statement! Clearly this homophobic dingbat meant this as a gay slur to all the gay conservatives who voted for Trump. What else could she have meant? Bigoted B*tch!!!

    https://www.newsmax.com/politics/maxine-waters-death-threats-california-representative/2018/06/30/id/869343/

  912. paul says:

    Clearly, Hardiman is the best pick since Robbie doesn’t like him.

    Hardiman = Briar Patch

  913. Mr.Vito says:

    For reference

    Larsen was confirmed 60-38
    (Donnelly, Carper, Heitkamp, Manchin, Nelson, Peters, Stabenow, Warner)

    Barrett was confirmed 55-43
    (Donnelly, Kaine, Manchin)

    Thapar was confirmed 52-44
    (no crossover votes)

  914. Mr.Vito says:

    “I think everybody knows how much I love Nancy Pelosi,” Obama told the gathering at a home in affluent Atherton, Politico reported.

    “Nancy, I believe, is one of the greatest speakers we ever had, and will once again be one of the greatest speakers we ever have after we get through this cycle,” he continued. “And there’s not much I could have gotten done without having Nancy there alongside of me every step of the way.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/01/obama-still-backing-pelosi-while-other-democrats-move-on.html

  915. mnw says:

    Took kids to see Jurassic World last night. It suffers in comparison to the predecessors, imo. Also, there were only a handful there on Saturday night. The movie has only been out a week & does not have legs, as they say. apparently.

  916. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Catch this riot in Portland OR yesterday . The brawl was started by Antifa. The scene at the 1:15 mark is amazing!

    https://twitter.com/TheSeanCampbell/status/1013327186248384512

  917. Phil says:

    I have gone back and forth on this Supreme Court selection business as to who would be the best selection. The more I think about it the more I believe Barrett is the best choice for a number of reasons.

    She first of all checks the most important boxes. She is a solid conservative and she is young (46). She is totally qualified. Rhodes Scholar, all kinds of academic credentials. Can’t be attacked as a lightweight.

    No, the attack will have to be nasty. They will no doubt go after her religion and faith just as they did in her Circuit Judge hearings. It will look really bad (because it is) but the left cannot help themselves. We’ve seen it over and over again and on something this big they are really going to flip out. Expect lots of snark about her faith and the fact that she has seven children.

    All this will backfire badly before the November election. If Trump is smart he will play the Barrett card. It is a wn win for him. A solid, young, Supreme Court member that the Left will look mean and nasty trying to oppose. Perfect for the midterms. Absolutely perfect. Do it, Mr. President.

  918. Phil says:

    ….and furthermore, it looks even worse beating up on a woman. That’s just an added bonus. Will backfire badly on the left.

  919. mnw says:

    THIS is noteworthy:

    The Santa Monica Observer newspaper reports that Saint John will resign on July 4th. They quote an aide to him who spoke anonymously. There is enough detail in the story that there may be something to it.

    The article states that Mrs. Saint John will be appointed, if she wants it, & if not, perhaps former AZ Sen. Kyl.

  920. Tina says:

    She sounds like a good pick too, Phil.

    The left will attack. They have targeted mostly female cabinet members.

  921. Chicon says:

    Mnw – if so, I believe it to be the right choice (resigning), despite the belief that I’m not fit to lick his boot.

    Not sure about the choice of the Mrs., but I don’t live there, so I’m not allowed to comment.

  922. Bitterlaw says:

    Is Tina saying that you are a RINO if you don’t love Trump and support him and his baggage fully? Interesting.

    I find myself opposing Democrats more than I support Trump but I guess they lead to the same place. His tariffs and trade wars are dangerous but there is nothing I can do about it.

    Speaking of it, I finally watched “IT” last night. It was ok. It reminded me of “Stand by me” with a girl and a killer clown added in. I will give 3.5 out of 5 stars.

  923. Tina says:

    If you are replying to the never trump article, some of them are no longer republican. Some apparently are socialist or love the Drats.

    So calling them rinos is not true and may be charitable.

  924. Tina says:

    I hope the as governor does not appoint the Mrs.

    No attack on them, but It smells of patronage and reinforces gop-e “deals.”

    If she were to run and win on her own accord, however, more power to her.

    If he can, the as governor should appoint himself, but probably he cannot. He would be the best solution there.

  925. Tina says:

    Phil, Beto has come out in support of abolishing Ice.

    May they continue to attack LEOs.

    Also, they need to keep protesting Ice, while waving Mexican flags, a few days before the Fourth.

    Great optics. /s

  926. mnw says:

    Oh, Tina!

    I agree with 99% of your posts, but not 945! Every governor who ever did that has immediately become a political pariah. That would be the worst solution.

    As for McVain’s missus, the conventional wisdom is that the appointment is hers if she wants it Gov. Ducey has essentially said that.

    There are about 43 AZ Republicans I would rather have than Cindy, but… Cindy. Gonna have to live with it.

  927. Tina says:

    Mnw, I want Ducey in some position at the federal level, ideally him winning his own election. That is what I meant.

    Ward and the other woman running seem to have issues.

    We should be fine in Az if we get solid candidates, given the apparent, net Az registration numbers in our favor.

  928. Tina says:

    And arpaio has several tons more of baggage

    Seems like we are fielding too many candidates with baggage.

  929. mnw says:

    “Blue Wave Receding? Republican Easily Wins Texas Special Election”

    I posted about this last night. The R in TX-27 got 59%, avoided a runoff, & this seat is majority Latino, at least on paper.

    At RRH last night, when the R was at 53%, The Wise Men were complaining that the R was “underperforming,” because Trump got 60%!

    Tina

    Ward & Sheriff Joe just filed to run in the primary. They didn’t (& won’t) get nominated. I’m skeptical about McSally’s chances in the GE. So far the polling has been dismal.

  930. Tina says:

    Yeah, Mcsalley has not polled well.

  931. Phil says:

    Beto came out against ICE? Hadn’t seen that. Knew he was for open borders. Didn’t know he was dumb enough to come out and say it.

  932. lisab says:

    Illegal immigrant is arrested for ‘starting dozens of wildfires in Colorado that forced hundreds to evacuate and destroyed 38,000 acres of land’, as video shows blaze rapidly engulfing one of the many decimated homes

  933. lisab says:

    they are just starting the wild fires american citizens won’t

  934. lisab says:

    BACKLASH: Peter Fonda’s New Movie Is BOMBING At The Box Office
    —————————-

    who else did not see peter fonda’s movie because of his tweet?

    actually … did anyone besides me not even know he was still alive?

  935. Mr.Vito says:

    If he hadn’t tweeted, no one would even know there was a movie.

  936. Mr.Vito says:

    Nineteen senior investigators at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) have called for the government agency to be disbanded in a letter to Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen…

    …The letter suggests splitting ICE into two separate agencies that focus separately on homeland security and deportation, which the agents say would “improve transparency, efficiency and effectiveness.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/01/19-ice-investigators-call-for-agency-to-be-disbanded-in-letter-amid-abolish-ice-protests.html

    Trump should do it call them
    ICE-D (deportation)
    ICE-T (terrorism)

    just to troll the left.

  937. Mr.Vito says:

    Twice the ICE!

  938. Mr.Vito says:

    Then demand double the agents in ICE-D as part of any immigration bill…

    lol

  939. Mr.Vito says:

    ‘Girl from the Bronx’ Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who beat high-ranking Democrat Joe Crowley, faces questions over her ‘working class’ background after it’s revealed she grew up in a wealthy suburb north of New York City

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5905247/Girl-Bronx-Alexandria-Ocasio-Cortez-actually-grew-wealthy-Westchester-County.html

  940. Blobbie says:

    Illegal Lives Matter More!

  941. Chicon says:

    960 – maybe we’ll discover she worked under Bill Clinton in Westchester while Hillary was out of town.

  942. Mr.Vito says:

    No… actually… she volunteered for Ted Kennedy during college.

  943. Redmen4ever says:

    TX 27: Republicans totaled 59.8 percent.

  944. lisab says:

    Hours After FBI Found Classified Hillary Emails on Weiner Laptop, Strzok’s Wife Was Promoted…

    i think it was as a rebuke to trump

  945. Messy says:

    955. No one. Fonda’s been old news for decades and hasn’t had a hit in over a decade.

    961. Than what Bobbie?

  946. Messy says:

    899,901. You seem to have forgotten that the Constitutional Convention did not include the bill of rights and all those other amendments.

    The Ratification Conventions all demanded a bunch of them and the 9th for example specifically authorizes judicial interpretations that include other rights not enumerated.

    One of the reasons that Kennedy was on the bench at all, was that Bork violated the 9th Amendment right there in the hearing room.

  947. lisab says:

    Today, as many white millennials support the Democrats as the Republicans (each 39%). Just two years ago, Democrats still had a 14% lead over Republicans among white millennials. The trends are even more pronounced among white male millennials. Today, this group favors the Republicans over the Democrats by a staggering 11%. In 2016, Democrats led white male millennials by 12%.

  948. Tina says:

    Just saw a video of Antifa, the Drats new kkk, attacking trump supporters at a Portland rally.

    The trump supporters were permitted to be in their dedicated space.

    Lots of Antifaers ko’d.

  949. Tina says:

    With trump taking a strong border enforcement stance and enforcing existing laws, trumps approval among Hispanic voters has increased by 10 and has almost doubled among blacks,

  950. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    When Trump ended the Iran deal, the leftist press claimed he was giving a gift to the hardliners, who would gain popular support.

    “DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — Gunfire erupted as Iranian security forces confronted protesters early Sunday amid demonstrations over water scarcity in the country’s south, violence that authorities said wounded at least 11 people, mostly police.

    The protests around Khorramshahr, some 650 kilometers (400 miles) southwest of Tehran, come as residents of the predominantly Arab city near the border with Iraq complain of salty, muddy water coming out of their taps amid a yearslong drought.

    The unrest there only compounds the wider unease felt across Iran as it faces an economic crisis sparked by President Donald Trump’s decision to withdraw America from Tehran’s nuclear deal with world powers.

    Protests began in Khorramshahr, Abadan and other areas of Iran’s oil-rich Khuzestan province on Friday. The demonstrations initially were peaceful, with protesters chanting in both Arabic and Farsi.

    But late Saturday and into early Sunday morning, protesters began throwing stones and confronting security forces in Khorramshahr, according to widely shared online videos. State television aired images of rocks and broken glass covering sidewalks, as well as smashed ATMs. Women and children fled as gunfire echoed.”

  951. Chicon says:

    967 – judicial interpretation, eh?

    “The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”

    Where? Your argument – as usual – disintigrates under the microscope.

  952. janz says:

    #970, Tina, that’s an impressive increase among those two demographics.

    BTW, has anyone been following the walkaway hash tag phenomena now trending on twitter?

  953. Bitterlaw says:

    I am glad jason returned. I already apologized for putting llama burgers on the A-hole Clubhouse menu.

  954. janz says:

    Californian, Tom Steyer, to plow $350 million into democrat campaigns to take over the House. Whew!

  955. Mr.Vito says:

    Everyone who takes his money should be confronted with this:

    “Maybe we can have, like, a nuclear war and then we get a real course correction.”

    — Tom Steyer

  956. Chicon says:

    LeBron taking his talents to LA to play with the Lakers. Sorry, Bitter….

  957. Blobbie says:

    LeBron taking his talents to LA to play with the Lakers.
    =======================

    He is clearly doing that as a rebuke to Trump

  958. Chicon says:

    I saw it as a personal rebuke of Bitter and Philly phans.

  959. Mr.Vito says:

    “A political-science journal that published an oft-cited study claiming conservatives were more likely to show traits associated with “psychoticism” now says it got it wrong. Very wrong.

    The American Journal of Political Science published a correction this year saying that the 2012 paper has “an error” — and that liberal political beliefs, not conservative ones, are actually linked to psychoticism.”

    https://nypost.com/2016/06/09/science-says-liberal-beliefs-are-linked-to-pyschotic-traits

    Whoops.

  960. Bitterlaw says:

    Well, the 76ers could have paid him more money. He should have stayed in the East? If the Lakers can sign George or trade for Leonard, he can vie for a title.

  961. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Survey USA poll of California governor’s race:
    Newsom 58%
    Cox 28%
    Am not a fan of Survey USA polling, but the poll numbers are probably about right. Cox making it through the primary will not increase Republican turn-out; what is going to draw Republicans to the polls is the gas tax repeal.

  962. mnw says:

    janz 973

    I have. Be interesting to see if it has legs. They’re not embracing Trump or the GOP at all, from what I’ve read– just sick of being harassed by their leftist cohorts for even the slightest deviation from the resistance party line. WE got tired of being called rayciss & showviness a long time ago. Now some of the young’uns are discovering THEY don’t have to take it either! Because they can just… walkaway.

    SDC 971

    Sounds more serious every week now. I believe that only armed revolt can topple that regime. They’re too afraid to do anything except double down.

  963. lisab says:

    has anyone been following the walkaway hash tag phenomena now trending on twitter?
    —————————————

    yes.

    as someone who walked away from gore — mostly out of boredom and then ran away from kerry and obama and especially hillary out of increasing horror … i am interested to see this.

    i do not think the country can function well with two equally divided parties that are becomining increasingly partisan.

    as we saw with how obama’s officials at the fbi, doj, epa and irs etc., treated their political enemies and later with them covering up for hillary’s alleged crimes and connections to russia etc. — the days of a two-tier justice system is among us.

    things are not good when your guilt or innocence is determined by who you gave money to last election — or what your minority, ethnic, sexual identity is, which is how it is determined by obama/hillary judges.

    nor is it good if your child’s future school is determined by whether you are ethnically non-white enough … if you are not rich, and you are a straight white or asian male, you almost cannot get into harvard. all their spots for white an asian males are already filled by the rich legacy students, i.e. rich whites and asians who have parents that went to harvard and thus can get in as a legacy.

    i think one party has to “win” and dominate the house and senate and scotus before the other side realizes that compromise and fair play is the only option …

    otherwise the dems will just increase their brownshirt tactics

  964. lisab says:

    They’re not embracing Trump or the GOP at all,
    ———————

    i’d say maybe 33-33-33

    33% just decide to not vote
    33% vote trump
    33% vote third party

  965. Tgca says:

    How the hell did it get to be 99 in Philly? I’m going back to FL where it’s only 88. Geez!

  966. lisab says:

    as an example of how partisan society is

    there is an applestore scandal called “bendgate”. their iphones now are so thin they bend under normal use.

    if you research it you will see that if you bring your phone in to an applestore and the technician likes you, you can get a repair free … otherwise they quote you $200-250 for repairs. people have actually gone to different stores and gotten different results on the same phone, until they got it repaired free.

    sooooooooo … my cis white 6′ tall husband goes into the apple store with my phone … i see a young chubby blonde girl assist him …

    my thought was … no chance, no appple store millenial employee will repair a married white guy’s phone for free, not gonna happen, i am thinking … $250 probably …

    but then a technician comes over … she is a millenial black woman … and i know it is over …

    his final charge … $350!!!!!

    i am not sure i paid that much for it new

  967. lisab says:

    i will try to get the same phone fixed … i will report my results

  968. Tina says:

    Well, as expected the leftist won the presidency in Mexico.

    He will now align his gubment with the drug cartels.

    He has also stated that he wants to flood the us with illegals.

    As I have stated for a long time, there will be no incentive to keep nafta with the leftist gubment there. The industries will come back here on their own,

    The wall will need to be built because of the threats made by him. Of course, one is not needed for the entire border, as Trump has stated over and over.

  969. Tina says:

    Janz.

    He could now win more Evs than last time.

    92 percent of Rs support him now.

    Aa support doubles to 16.

    Higher Hispanic support,

    I know many legal Hispanics that despise illegal Hispanics or illegals in general.

  970. lisab says:

    Tina,

    also, trump really had little party support and little money compared to hillary

    in 2020 trump will have the entire gop warchest to spend on the general

    and potentially a gotv, which he did not have in 2016

    the dem candidate is facing an uphill financial battle

  971. janz says:

    #983 mnw, For me the #walkaway posts are healthy in simply discussing people’s complaints regarding the democrat party, their hyperbolic behavior all resulting in divisiveness. It’s like a political support group where one can share their discontent without being slapped down. It also can’t help but be viewed as a sane counterpoint to all the current insanity. The fact there’s no encouragement to vote for Trump or join the GOP, with the sole emphasis placed on walking away from the democrat party, IMO, is a good component of this online movement.

    #984 lisab, Even if I was inclined to do so, I have become even more alienated from ever voting for a democrat. They simply have become the party of liars and distributors of misinformation and violence in order to gain attention and power.

    #990 Tina, you might be interested in this youtube piece articulating non-revisionist black history. The more educated blacks and hispanics become the less attractive the democrats look to them.

  972. Mr.Vito says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/01/45000-per-year-private-school-in-uproar-over-plan-to-segregate-students-by-race.html

    Progressives bringing back segregation.

    It’s ‘good’ for minorities again.

    This is the obvious conclusion of the current progressive climate. If whites are privileged and microaggression is assault, then minorities must be given a protected space away from these brutes.

  973. Messy says:

    989. “Gubment?” After all the crap I took here for a mere typo, I think I can object to a deliberate misspelling.

    I blame Trump for the bastard’s election more than the corruption.

  974. Bitterlaw says:

    Happy real Independence Day.

    July 4th is for the “B” students.

  975. mnw says:

    Happy almost-Independence Day everybody (excluding only trolls).

    I view #walkaway as a way station on the road to Damascus.* You don’t usually go whole hog at first.. although I did. Affirmative action did it for me. I just thought about it one weekend & said to myself, “You’re a white male. It’s not your fault, self, but you are being passed over for jobs based on your race & gender. Know what? I’m not going to be the proverbial chicken voting for Col. Sanders– never again.” Simple as that.

    *referencing Saul/Paul conversion experience.

  976. Mr.Vito says:

    “On Monday, Germany’s Chancellor Angela Merkel, whose soft position on immigration to her country has come under harsh criticism, got some bad news: Interior Minister Horst Seehofer, who had been in discussions with party leaders for over ten hours, signaled he might resign because a European Union plan to limit immigrants was not strong enough.

    Seehofer said he would speak with Merkel one more time on Monday to see if they could iron out their differences, but if they don’t and he resigns, triggering his Christian Social Union to withdraw from Merkel’s coalition, she would no longer have a majority in Parliament, which would catalyze new elections.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32524/merkels-coalition-jeopardy-interior-minister-hank-berrien

  977. Tina says:

    So, trump was supposed to interfere in the Mexican election?

    You know the socialist was leading that race since the beginning of it,

    There is no way nafta continues with him.

  978. Diamond Jim says:

    M

  979. Tina says:

    1000

  980. Tina says:

    Dang it.

  981. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw #997
    I grew-up in an FDR loving family. My parents both belonged to public employee unions.
    I “cut-my-teeth” in business in the late 1970’s when Carter ruined the economy.
    Ronald Reagan “sang” to me with his agenda of tax cuts, smaller government, a more robust military and a muscular foreign policy.He always spoke about American exceptionalism.
    In 1980, I changed my registration to the GOP and have had no regrets since.

  982. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Maybe Messy and Tim can inform us as to why they remain Democrats.
    Do they agree that ICE should be disbanded and the MS-13 gang members coddled?

  983. DW says:

    RRH already wringing hands that Trump should pick someone easier to confirm.

    I say hold Manchin and others’ feet to the fire. Force them to vote yes or risk losing their chance for re-election.

  984. mnw says:

    Sheep

    My father & grandfather were both DEM elected officials. My grandmother told me when I was about 10 years old, “I’m proud of being a Christian, an American and a Democrat.”

    So abandoning all that familial heartstring pulling was tough! But the more I thought about it, the more I thought those relatives of mine would’ve switched too! They were CONSERVATIVE Democrats– how many of THOSE are still around?

  985. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    Agreed. My late father, union guy, would be appalled at today’s Democrat Party.I believe that in today’s world,he would be a registered Democrat who would frequently cross over to vote for Republican candidates.
    #1005 mnw stop your hand-wringing on another site!

  986. mnw says:

    48/51

    Trump is Movin’ on up! To that deelux apartment in the skyyy!

  987. NYCmike says:

    “Don’t get cocky, kid!”

  988. Phil says:

    How many conservative Democrats left? Zero….and there have not been any in at least twenty years.

  989. DW says:

    1008 – thanks George Jefferson.

  990. NYCmike says:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/01/world/europe/denmark-immigrant-ghettos.html

    -Europe is always either FREEZING COLD or SCALDING HOT!

    No middle ground.

    The pendulum is swinging!

  991. mnw says:

    Sheep

    That’s me alright. I switched from my old screen name over there (mnw) because I got banned several years ago– for speaking Truth to Wise Men.

    As for SCOTUS, McCain’s empty desk is the root cause of my preference for caution. With that seat vacanct, Collins really does have veto power. The redstate DEMS won’t vote “yes” if she gives them political cover, I suspect.

    If McCain resigns & his successor is seated, that would change the equation a lot.

  992. NYCmike says:

    “1008 – thanks George Jefferson.”

    -George and Thomas were lovers?

    One of them must have had a really nice wig.

  993. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Phil
    Joe Liberman was the Last of the Democrat Conservative Mohicans on foreign policy.Current Congressman Lipinski in IL on social and cultural issues. Gene Taylor in MS was the last true Blue Dog. Taylor is now a Republican.

  994. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    It was obvious, but I did not want to “out” you by name.
    Force the red state Democrats to vote nay regardless of Collins and Murkowski. Those two gals will not be sufficient cover for these Democrats and the GOP would then have a substantial Senate majority in 2019 & 2020.

  995. Phil says:

    My parents were Truman Democrats . Like the rest of white Democrats in Texas they migrated slowly to the Republican Party voting for Ike in 1956. Went back and voted Kennedy in 60, LBJ in 64, and crossed back over to Nixon in 68. Once Democrats nominated MCGovern in 1972 they were done with the Dems. The loved Reagan.

  996. Tina says:

    Most conservative pick

    No bush mush pick.

    Play offense, not defense.

    Act like a wiener and not a loser a la Quittens,

  997. NYCmike says:

    With you guys talking about your parents, my memory is being jolted into realizing why I like making sure incumbents need to fight thru primaries to keep them honest – Jacob Javits.

    Al D’amato beat him in a primary in 1980……but, like most liberal Republicans, he was a sore loser.

    “Javits lost the 1980 Republican Senate primary to Al D’Amato, who campaigned to Javits’s right. Javits nonetheless ran in the election as the nominee of the Liberal Party, and D’Amato defeated Javits and Democratic nominee Elizabeth Holtzman.”

  998. mnw says:

    Phil

    Sounds like a lot of us came out of the same sort of political background.

    I discovered that when I voted Republican for the first time, I suddenly felt better.

    In my case, it helped that my many DEM friends couldn’t essist me in getting the job I wanted, and the guy who DID help me A LOT had an autographed copy of Judge Bork’s book on his desk!

  999. NYCmike says:

    Imagine that – 38 years ago, a Republican won a statewide election in New York over a Democrat AND a liberal Republican.

    Did Pete Wilson from California have any affect on NY as well?

  1000. NYCmike says:

    “Play offense, not defense.”

    -Robbie takes OFFENSE at Trump’s Twitter defense!

  1001. dblaikie says:

    To say that Susan Collins is in the drivers seat concerning the court pick is simply wrong. All Trump needs to do is appoint a well qualified person for the Court. In doing that he puts tremendous pressure on all red state Democratic Senatorial Candidates. Some will turn on Schumer and vote in order to have any chance of survival. However if it seems the pick doesn’t have 50 votes, that gives Trump and the Republican party a huge advantage in the upcoming election.

    You see, the media and all the talking heads and the elites have never taken seriously the most powerful voting block in America — the pro life voter. They vote early, they never miss, you can count on 100% passion with this issue on the line. But most importantly they are a huge block. And if you doubt its power I have one question for you: Why do you think, despite all his obvious moral issues, so many evangelicals held their noise and pulled the lever for Trump? Let me answer because they were pro life! If another pro life pick depends upon winning an election, the media has no idea of the monster (at least to them) that will descend on the voting booth.

    So let Collins mouth off and think she is important. If Trump picks one of the 25 believe that pick will eventually win.

  1002. NYCmike says:

    I should point out that, after looking back, Javits going in as the Liberal Party candidate may have actually helped D’Amato get elected, since a good number of “conservative” Democrats may have voted for him instead of Holtzman.

  1003. Tina says:

    Trump is moving up.

    So in Jebot land, he must have had a good week.

  1004. Phil says:

    As I stated yesterday and for the reasons I listed, Barrett would be the best pick IMO. However, if Trump wanted he could hold her back for the possibility that Ginsburg is the next to go (it would have to be feet first). Then you have a woman replaced by a woman.

    Of course, Barrett like any conservative once on the Court will have to endure the slings and arrows from the left accusing her of not being a real woman and betraying her gender….much like Clarence Thomas is not a real black and is a House n*gger and has betrayed his race. That’s how the left operates.

    It will be ugly for any conservative woman justice. She will have to be strong.

  1005. mnw says:

    dblaikie & Sheep

    You guys are just braver than I am. Or, if you prefer, less risk averse.

    If McCain resigns & once his appointed successor is seated, then Collins no longer has de facto veto power on SCOTUS nomination.

    I want SCOTUS confirmed before the GE! Based on the scanty polling data to date, it’s quite possible the DEMs could re-take the Senate– not likely but certainly possible.

    The GOP is apparently behind TODAY in AZ; TN; MO & NV. The GOP is ahead in FL. That’s not happy math.

    I base MO only on 2 Sky Queen internals, because that’s all there is. But they don’t look farfetched, & Hawley is auditioning for the remake of The Invisible Man, apparently. At least, for once, the GOP has the more telegenic candidate in Hawley.

  1006. Messy says:

    1006. The Dixiecrat wing of the Democratic party is about as extinct as the Lindsey wing of the GOP.

  1007. Mr.Vito says:

    Too bad the identity politics of the democratic party didn’t die with them.

  1008. mnw says:

    NV SEN (Gravis):

    Rosen (D)…. 45
    Heller (-inc)..41

    NV Gov:

    Laxalt (R) 43
    Sisolak (D) 41

    Those are wretched numbers for Heller. I’m sorry, but they are.

  1009. mnw says:

    sb “Heller (R-inc)”

  1010. Tina says:

    It is time for Rubin to be fired from the compost.

    Won’t happen,Mobutu it should.

  1011. mnw says:

    Abdur Raheem Rafeeq

    Damn those Presbyterians!

  1012. DW says:

    Brazil knocks Mexico out of World Cup with 2-0 win

  1013. Mr.Vito says:

    Apparently the “FBI is beyond reproach” didn’t age well with the IG report, so the left is back to attacking law enforcement again.

  1014. jason says:

    I agree with Collins that the next justice should not be hostile to Roe vs. Wade.

    But I don’t agree with trying to hold the pick hostage to her demands.

    Still, it would be smart not to pick someone with strong public statements on the issue.

    Amul Thapar is still the best pick IMO. McConnell will be highly vested in confirming him.

    And Elizabeth Warren hates him, always a plus… here was her comment when he was confirmed to the appeals court.

    “As in Justice Gorsuch’s case, those radical groups are committed to doing whatever it takes to make sure that Judge Thapar sits on the nation’s highest courts,” Sen. Elizabeth Warren said in a floor speech Wednesday night. “For those groups, the goal is not just to get a few ultraconservative judges on our federal courts. It is to capture the entire judicial branch.”

  1015. Tina says:

    Hopefully, the fib can reform itself.

    Mulehead and Conedy have wrecked that agency,

    They are both lawyahs who were figureheads.

    Let the lawyahs run the doj, not the fib,

    Fib needs street cop.

  1016. jason says:

    I am looking for a comment by Fauxcahontas regarding her objection to Obama trying to “capture the entire judicial branch”.

    I’ll let you know when I find it.

  1017. Mr.Vito says:

    Warren would say that even if Kennedy himself were nominated.

    Thapar received no cross-over votes, BTW.

    Barrett had three.

    Larsen had eight.

  1018. mnw says:

    The betting favorite is Kavanaugh.

  1019. Mr.Vito says:

    Kavanaugh is fine if you want another Kennedy.

  1020. NYCmike says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlPz3W8V2_Q

    -I usually hear jason coming thru the door.

  1021. jason says:

    Why do you think, despite all his obvious moral issues, so many evangelicals held their noise and pulled the lever for Trump? Let me answer because they were pro life!”

    LOL

    What a crock…

    They pulled the lever for a guy who was on record as ok with partial birth abortions because they were pro-life?

    Nah, they pulled the lever for Trump because they couldn’t stomach Hillary.

    Contrary to what dblaikie thinks, there are not that many single issue voters on only vote on abortion.

  1022. Tina says:

    The investigator can start with the Senate Unintelligence Committee.

  1023. BayernFan says:

    I think it will be Barrett. I think Collins basically said no to Kavanaugh over Roe.

    I note that media assumes that McCain will to participate, which reduces the GOP margin to 50-49.

    If that is so, and McCain can not participate in this, then he ought to resign and allow the GOP to appoint a Senator who can participate.

    But as we know, with McCain it’s all about him and how he can screw over the GOP when it comes to important matters like this. God forbid he should suffer the wrath of the media on his way out.

  1024. Phil says:

    I’m not all that enthused about Kavanaugh. Barrett is the play. Democrats will make fools of themselves attacking her religion just like they did in her last confirmation. They can’t help themselves. They would play right into Trump’s hands going into November.

    Will Trump appoint her? Probably not. Makes too much sense. This is the guy who appointed Sessions and that joke, Tillerson.

  1025. NYCmike says:

    “They pulled the lever for a guy who was on record as ok with partial birth abortions because they were pro-life?”

    -jason only quotes Trump when it is a statement which agrees with what jason thinks. Too funny!

  1026. jason says:

    Actually the betting sites have Barrett as the favorite at 3/1.

    Kavanauh is 4/1.

    Kethledge 8/1

    Hardiman 9.1

    Thapar 10/1

    Sessions is 100/1 tied with Merrick Garland

  1027. NYCmike says:

    “Will Trump appoint her? Probably not. Makes too much sense. This is the guy who appointed Sessions and that joke, Tillerson.”

    -Phil,

    Go back and take a look at cabinet picks thru the years. Every President makes a mistake here and there.

    Sessions, I personally believe, is doing more behind the scenes, as he should.

    And Tillerson was quickly replaced by someone better, so no harm done.

  1028. Mr.Vito says:

    “Nah, they pulled the lever for Trump because they couldn’t stomach Hillary.”

    I can confirm what dblaikie is saying. It was over pro-life and religious liberty issues, both as a corollary too SCOTUS picks. They trusted Pence and the GOP caucus even if they had doubts whether Trump would keep his word.

  1029. jason says:

    -jason only quotes Trump when it is a statement which agrees with what jason thinks. ”

    GFY

    I never supported partial birth abortion. Never.

  1030. mnw says:

    Vito

    I didn’t say that I wanted Kavanaugh. I don’t, actually. I said Kavanaugh seems to be the betting favorite right now

  1031. NYCmike says:

    “I can confirm what dblaikie is saying. It was over pro-life and religious liberty issues, both as a corollary too SCOTUS picks. They trusted Pence and the GOP caucus even if they had doubts whether Trump would keep his word.”

    -DEFINITELY.

  1032. Mr.Vito says:

    ‘too’ = ‘to’

    if it isn’t obvious…

    There were videos played in church about how evangelicals should not sit on the sidelines and that each candidate’s party has a basket of ideals that go with them.

    They even had registration drives at church.

    Never seen it before.

  1033. Mr.Vito says:

    “I didn’t say that I wanted Kavanaugh.”

    I didn’t mean to imply it if I did. Sorry about that.

    I really just meant he is fine if “someone” would like to replace Kennedy with a similar type, or maybe more like Roberts.

  1034. jason says:

    Oh I don’t agree it was certainly partly over SCOTUS, and certainly religious liberty, gun rights, abortion, etc. were part of the equation.

    I just don’t agree it was just about abortion, which

    and pulled the lever for Trump? Let me answer because they were pro life!” implies.

    Especially since Trump was on record as being “very pro-choice” and in fact ok with partial birth abortion until he ran for President as an R.

  1035. jason says:

    Kavanaugh is fine for me. I would prefer Thapar but outside of Hardiman all the top contenders are good.

  1036. jason says:

    Barrett would be my second choice, I still prefer a qualified minority or a woman so I can enjoy the Dems trying to destroy them.

  1037. Todd McCain says:

    It is going to be Barrett or Thapur. Book it.

  1038. NYCmike says:

    Reagan signed an abortion bill as Governor, and his administration never looked to introduce legislation regarding abortion.

    Trump said something once.

    jason: It is impossible that pro-life voters would look to vote for Trump!

  1039. Mr.Vito says:

    “and pulled the lever for Trump? Let me answer because they were pro life!” implies. ”

    Fair enough, I just didn’t get that implication since he was saying they held their noses.

  1040. mnw says:

    Everyone who voted for Trump had to overlook his past record, & usually overlook it on more than one issue.

    RTL & evangelicals decided to accept his stated campaign positions, & disregard his past record, just like very other Trump voter did.

    I was terrified Trump would turn out to be just another NY liberal, but I took a chance on him. And it was more than Hillary-avoidance. I liked what he was saying.

    And thanks CNN! For broadcasting all his rallies, so that it was impossible NOT to know what Trump was saying. Good job!

  1041. DW says:

    Hope Trump goes with Barrett. Lets see Dems go all in to shred a woman’s reputation. Besides, Barrett is easier to spell than Kavanaugh.

  1042. Mr.Vito says:

    Thapar is backed by McConnell and was interviewed as a Scalia replacement.

    I believe McGahn recommended Gorsuch… and I believe he also recommended Kavanaugh.

    Barrett seems to be a favorite among the conservative populace (and Lee if Trump wants to go away from the judicial branch).

  1043. DW says:

    And of course Donnelly in Indiana would have to vote Yes on Barrett.

  1044. mnw says:

    DW 1068

    I disagree! I think Kavanaugh is much easier to spell. With Barrett, you have to worry about how many “ts” to put at the end. It might even have only one “r.”

    What say YOU three iiis?

    This is your only area of expertise. And btw, typing “trails” instead of “trials”* is a typo. Typing “gubmint” instead of “government” is an intentional misspelling for comic effect. But spelling “disintigrates” instead of “disintegrates” isn’t a typo! It means you are semi-literate.

    *I typed “trails” when I meant “trials” so often, there was a secy once who would annotate “Happy trails to you!” in the margin.

  1045. Mr.Vito says:

    “And of course Donnelly in Indiana would have to vote Yes on Barrett.”

    Donnelly, Manchin, and Kaine were yes votes before.

    But who knows?

    Look at the Catholic Senators who voted to keep late-term abortions legal…

    Cantwell, Collins, Durbin, Gillibrand, Heitkamp, Kaine, Leahy, Markey, Cortez Masto, McCaskill, Menendez, Murkowski, Murray, Reed

  1046. Waingro says:

    If Kavanaugh is another Roberts, he should be a “no”.

    Sean T at RCP
    ?Verified account @SeanTrende
    32m32 minutes ago

    My basic take: Kavanaugh = Roberts. Ketheledge = Gorsuch. Barrett =
    ¯\_(?)_/¯ (but not Kennedy).

  1047. Waingro says:


    Tina says:
    July 2, 2018 at 12:10 pm

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/02/obama-administration-granted-citizenship-to-2500-iranians-during-nuclear-deal-iran-official.amp.html

    There needs to be an investigation into the politicians that were bribed by this deal.”

    Start with Bob Corker.

  1048. DW says:

    Barrett went to Notre Dame, so Donnelly could vote NO if he wished to slit his own political throat.

  1049. DW says:

    We need to get as conservative judge as possible to keep the court’s balance because Roberts wants to replace Kennedy as the swing vote.

  1050. Mr.Vito says:

    But it’s for the cause!

  1051. Waingro says:

    I don’t think Donnelly/Heitkamp and maybe Manchin even signal a yes vote on anyone unless Collins/Murk indicate they will first.

  1052. Tina says:

    Please no squishes.

    Scalia 3.0 or bust

  1053. Chicon says:

    1078 – completely agree.

    I think the left are getting too excited about Collins’ statement. She said she couldn’t vote for someone who expressed a desire to overturn Roe because they wouldn’t be respecting precedent.

    Anyway, hopefully she told Trump if any on the list are a no go for her.

  1054. Mr.Vito says:

    Schumer says all 25 judges on the list are sure votes to overturn Roe.

  1055. DW says:

    Once again, HHR is way ahead of RRH. Someone posted this at RRH today:

    “The Siena College poll did not do well in the 11th CD GOP primary race, showing Grimm ahead by 10 points, when in the end incumbent Donovan won by 28 points. They were also way off in the 24th CD Dem primary showing Perez Williams ahead of Balter by 13 points. But in the end Balter won by 25 points. I think they need to re-examine their primary poll modeling.”

    I pointed this out on HHR the day after the NY primary.

  1056. NYCmike says:

    That Grimm poll was ridiculous. Nowhere in this district was there any sort of groundswell for Grimm.*

    *Grimm immediately endorsed Donovan after the defeat. Personally, I think he just ran in the primary to let people know he was out of jail, and to have that part of his bio be exposed now, as opposed to the next time he runs for office.

  1057. NYCmike says:

    Radical idea down in Mexico – SELF-RULE!

    https://news.vice.com/en_us/article/gykaq9/a-town-in-mexico-overthrew-their-local-government-things-couldnt-be-going-better

    Have a guy at work touting the new President, told him Good Luck, I hope he does well, but that words only go so far.

    I also sent him this link for him to watch.

  1058. DW says:

    Thrilling World Cup action going on. 35 minutes in, and its Belgium 0, Japan 0.

  1059. mnw says:

    DW 1083

    For being crazy wrong, Emerson can provide Siena with a challenge.

    About a week before the AL SEN election, Emweson reported that, “Jones (D) has no realistic path to victory in the AL race.”

  1060. NYCmike says:

    In that Slate link are more links about how Justice Kennedy let liberals down…..every single Republican pick should keep a record of these articles, to remember how quickly the fawning press will turn their backs on you.

  1061. Mr.Vito says:

    “Thrilling World Cup action going on. 35 minutes in, and its Belgium 0, Japan 0.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjp1Zrvn8VQ

  1062. NYCmike says:

    Heh…..I just noticed that Stephen Green posted something similar on Instapundit.

  1063. Waingro says:

    QPac drops a D+9 generic ballot poll today: https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2553

    And I noticed that the Reuters 5 day tracking poll has it at D+10 as of June 28. http://polling.reuters.com/#!response/TM1212Y17/type/smallest/filters/PD1:1/dates/20180301-20180628/collapsed/true

    Probably just noise, but look for RCP average to balloon in the blue direction over the next week or so.

  1064. Waingro says:

    Robert Costa
    ?Verified account @costareports
    4m4 minutes ago

    What are Paul’s concerns? Friends of his tell me it’s Kav’s decisions on health care/ACA constitutionality + his work in W.’s White House. Paul World so far has been mum about all of this.
    6 replies 4 retweets 7 likes
    Robert Costa
    ?Verified account @costareports
    5m5 minutes ago

    something to watch: Sen. Rand Paul has some reservations about Kavanaugh, per a few of his friends plus a WH aide. He has voiced these privately in recent days, but not publicly, the people said. Waiting to see what POTUS does… Paul was unavail for comment.

  1065. dblaikie says:

    Let me tell you the day that Trump locked up the profile vote (not every evangelical is pro life and vice versa) was the day he committed to the names of the 25 judges and pledged himself. That was the day Donald Trump began on the glide path towards election. Again the thing you need to remember about the pro life voter when something important like this issue is on the line is that they are single issue voters it Trumps (forgive the pun) everything. And please understand even though a majority of pro life voters are conservative it still cuts across all lines.

    So let me go out on a limb and dare to disagree with Jason who by the way I greatly respect. He dished out more than I care to remember over my views of Ben Carson. Drove me to salve my wounds in Single Malt Scotch. However I think he is confusing the evangelical vote with the pro life vote. And I know the difference. I am a main stream Presbyterian evangelical. Even though I am pro life, I have other issues that very important to me. But my wife spouse is a pro life voter. The day she took Donald Trump seriously was the day he published the 25 potential nominees and committed to them.

  1066. mnw says:

    Waingro 1093

    I don’t like the latest batch of Senate & House polls at all. However, the actual results from TX-27 on Tuesday night were encouraging. So, I dunno.

  1067. mnw says:

    Sarah sez Trump met with 4 SCOTUS candidates today.

    I wish Trump would nominate HER!

  1068. Tina says:

    They are mad that judge kavanaugh is reported to have mouthed the b word about Hillary, inflaming the jebots.

  1069. Robbie says:

    The top two for SCOTUS appear to be Kavanaugh and Coney Barrett. One person who worked to get Kavanaugh confirmed to the DC court of appeals, Quin Hillyer, is not happy with Kavanaugh over his Obamacare ruling using the anti-injunction act. Rand Paul also appears to have issue with Kavanaugh.

    Coney Barrett, on the other hand, is receiving incoming fire over her Catholic faith and her views on abortion. In fact, it seems Collins and Murkowski might use abortion to veto Barrett.

    Personally, I would be fine with Kavanaugh and extremely happy with Coney Barrett. That said, I think Kethledge is superior to Kavanaugh and have felt that way for a goo number of months. And if Coney Barrett’s past comments on abortion are too much and Trump wants to choose a woman, Joan Larsen should be at the top of the list.

  1070. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    July 2, 2018 at 4:20 pm
    Sarah sez Trump met with 4 SCOTUS candidates today.
    I wish Trump would nominate HER!

    – I suspect this was said in jest, but let’s not conclude pissing off the press or Democrats now qualifies as being conservative.

  1071. lisab says:

    mueller is checking the NRA’s tax filings

    to see if russians gave them money

    to give to trump

  1072. DW says:

    I made fun of the World Cup game between Belgium and Japan because it was 0-0 at the half…then it turned into a high-scoring affair in the second half, Japan going up 2-0 and then Belgium scoring three straight goals, one on the final play to win it.

  1073. Tina says:

    She is the best press secretary that the republican president has had,

    Better that fitzwater by a tad.

  1074. Tina says:

    The rs should check Fuhrer Mulehead to see how much taxpayer money he has wasted.

  1075. Tina says:

    Ok, leaning now more to Barrett than kavanaugh.

    Kavanaugh blew two cases, one of them on obumblercare,

  1076. Phil says:

    Barrett all the way.

    Plus it would be fun watching Joe Donnelly squirm.

  1077. NYCmike says:

    I am putting my money on Thapar, with the conservative women justices to replace Ginsberg and Breyer.

    When there are more Republican Senators after this November, then we can get Coney Barrett on there.

    Ruth Bader, we want you back in Brighton Beach, you lovable lady!

  1078. NYCmike says:

    “– I suspect this was said in jest, but let’s not conclude pissing off the press or Democrats now qualifies as being conservative.”

    -You qualify as “in jest”.

    You are #HookLineAndSinkerForTheMedia.

    SAD.

  1079. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 2, 2018 at 5:58 pm
    Ok, leaning now more to Barrett than kavanaugh.
    Kavanaugh blew two cases, one of them on obumblercare,

    – Every judge blows a case or two. My sense, having read Kavanaugh’s Obamacare anti-injunction ruling, is Kavanaugh was looking for a way to avoid dealing with the merits of the case. In other words, I think he was trying to preserve his SCOTUS resume by staying away from something so controversial.

    A new article in a legal journal described the effort friends and former students of Kavanaugh will go to promote him. His former students describe him as an originalist like Scalia and Thomas. We’ll see, but my hunch is Kavanaugh is more conservative than his record indicates simply because he is outnumber on the DC court 7-4.

    That said, I think Kethledge is the most like Gorsuch. And if the decision is based on that (not politics or diversity), Kethledge should be the choice. That said, politics and diversity will play a role. Trump seems to think choosing a woman would be smart. I agree. I like Barrett, but I also really like Larsen and even Eid. They don’t have the abortion theatrics as Barrett does.

    By the way Hugh Hewitt, predicted on MTP Daily Kethledge will be the pick.

  1080. Tina says:

    The Court sets up a status hearing on the Flynn matter for 7/10.

    Flynn is required to be in attendance.

  1081. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 2, 2018 at 6:17 pm
    “– I suspect this was said in jest, but let’s not conclude pissing off the press or Democrats now qualifies as being conservative.”
    -You qualify as “in jest”.
    You are #HookLineAndSinkerForTheMedia.
    SAD.

    – #moron

  1082. Tina says:

    The judge continues to be upset with the delays.

    Both sides have agreed to the extensions on this simple lying to the fib guilty plea.

    However, it appears that Fuhrer Mulehead is hamstrung and cannot proceed until the Ig report on fisa and other matters comes out.

  1083. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 2, 2018 at 6:15 pm
    Barrett all the way.
    Plus it would be fun watching Joe Donnelly squirm.

    – She’d be great, but there is a certain stealth quality to her. The writing and reasoning may be even more important than the vote.

    She’s extremely well regarded and I’d love the choice, but we’ve been burned by stealth before. We get one shot at this before the election. If abortion derails her with Collins and Murkowski, Democrats may get this stopped until after the election.

    Contra many, I like a certain amount of paper trail. That’s why I have always liked Kethledge.

  1084. Tina says:

    There are more leaks suggesting Pete the cheat and or McCabe changed Flynn 302. The second agent as did comedy who testified to congress, maintain that Flynn did not lie. Comedy reversed himself in his book.

    Also, McCabe sent the fib agents to interview Flynn, this is problematic because there was no nsa attorney present and Mccabes prior history with Flynn regarding the woman that McCabe harassed allegedly.

  1085. Tina says:

    So, Fuhrer Mulehead obtains Flynn guilty plea in December of 2017

    Fuhrer Mulehead not ready for sentencing until maybe August of 2018.

    STRANGE

  1086. mnw says:

    Tina 1115

    Here’s how it usually works with a cooperating def:

    1) The sent hrg occurs usually 2-3 mos after the plea. That is the time Probation requires to prepare the Presentence Report (PSR).

    2) What is USUALLY delayed indefinitely is the sentence REDUCTION motion,* NOT the sentence hearing. The sentence reduction motion is routinely delayed until the cooperating def has completed his cooperation, i.e., either by testifying at a trial(s), or after all other defs have entered their own guilty pleas. (A routine sentence reduction motion might ask for a 1/3 to 1/2 reduction below the low end of the federal sentencing Guidelines recommended sentence range. Only the U.S. Attorney’s office can file such a motion.)

    3) What is uncharted territory here is the delay in Flynn’s sentence hrg itself. That is quite unusual.

    *via Rule 35 or GL Sec. 5K1.1.

  1087. BayernFan says:

    Adding 6 seats to the Supreme Court is such a good idea, we should do it now, and add all the folks Trump is interviewing.

  1088. Phil says:

    1118

    Now you’re talking.

  1089. Tina says:

    Thanks mnw.

    It does seem unusual.

  1090. Bitterlaw says:

    Hmmmmm. If Trump can get 3 SCOTUS picks by the end of his first term, maybe I won’t have to vote for President in 2020. I probably would still have to vote for him to stop a Democrat running as a Democrat.

  1091. mnw says:

    The Wise Men say that Trump met today with Kavanaugh, Barrett, Thapar & Kethledge.

  1092. Bitterlaw says:

    My only misgiving about Barrett is that she does not support the death penalty because of her faith.

  1093. Phil says:

    1. Barrett
    2a & 2b Thapar & Kethledge (in no particular order)

    3. Kavanaugh (distant third)

    My order

  1094. Tina says:

    If he continues to govern conservatively, I will again vote for him

    The Drats likely throw out Eric holder 2.0, the ca a senator nut job.

    But she does not hide her record like the obumbler.

  1095. Tina says:

    I have dropped Kavanaugh.

    Cannot look over the obumblercare matter.

    I have Barrett and ketheledge.

  1096. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t trust Trump now. I doubt there will be anything conservative in his actions if he is re-elected. Of course, there would never be anything conservative about his 2020 opponent, either.

  1097. mnw says:

    From our viewpoint (excluding the trolls), Sen. Harris should be our preferred candidate.

    To listen to her is to ask, “Do I want Obama to have a THIRD term?”

  1098. janz says:

    Tina, good! Those are my choices too. Lots of problems with Kavanaugh to have him in the high court.

  1099. phoenixrisen says:

    Agree with Phil. Barrett was my number 1 choice over a week ago after reviewing the candidates. Thapar is second. Kethledge would be 3rd. Tina is right. Kavanaugh blew his decision regarding Obamacare. A wild card is Larsen or Allison Eid. We’ll see.

  1100. Phil says:

    Kamala Harris will be the Democratic nominee in 2020. I have said this over and over.

    I have also said that should scare the hell out of all of us. She is a Venezuela like leftist and if elected will make Obama look like a moderate. She has a great shot at being elected President thanks to the demographic shift and the makeup of the electorate in 2020.

    Don’t take my word for it. Ask Tina how loony Harris is. She’ll tell you.

  1101. phoenixrisen says:

    I would love to see Harris or Warren go against Trump in 2020. It would be a massacre.

  1102. mnw says:

    All I know is, no white males need apply. The DEMS have MoveOn.org from that now.

  1103. NYcmike says:

    Bitter predicts a liberal Trump after 2020.

    Since he has predicted a liberal Trump since 2016, ill look forward to voting for Trump again.

    Also, there is the added incentive that the legislature is in charge of Congress, which has all of the power to write laws, if they want to do it in that fashion.

    Bitterlaw is still trying to accept that…..

  1104. Tina says:

    Harris cannot hide her record, like the obumbler rat the time. Remember, he had none and claimed to be something he was not, a moderate.

    Then the real cons, like will, the socialist, etc., had the obumbler over for dinner.Harris is a loon.

    Harris is a leftist. She cannot disguise her true colors.

  1105. Tina says:

    And the obumbler took advantage of the Iraq mess and the implosion both under mute 43s watch.

    Senator Thumbs Down also ran the worst campaign and had no answer at the wh meeting on the implosion.

  1106. Tina says:

    Harris got ahead by uh screwing the ex sf mayor, w brown.

  1107. BayernFan says:

    If I had to bet, I’d go with Biden for 2020.

  1108. lisab says:

    i believe biden said he is out, at least there was a rumor, i did not see it in the papers

  1109. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC is still trying to pretend that tariffs and trade wars are conservative.

    NYC to post “But Reagan….. ” in 3….2….1….

  1110. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “NYC is still trying to pretend that tariffs and trade wars are conservative.”

    Have never heard tariffs referred to as a liberal vs. conservative issue. Seems instead to be Trump’s repudiation of the failed Clinton/Bush/Obama economic policies, with their false claim they encouraged free trade.

  1111. Messy says:

    happy 4th of July eve everyone!

    1139. Biden is too damn old.
    1128. yes you do. He had his faults, but he prevented a real depression and got the economy going again.

  1112. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1142
    Daily Moron Alert! I guess that Messy has never heard of Helicopter Ben Bernanke and the easy money policy of the Federal Reserve.

  1113. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Which Presidents, in the last 38 years, have used tariffs one time or another during their time in office?

  1114. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    “Tim Geithner, Obama’s Treasury Secretary, runs a company that preys on the poor & vulnerable: sends unsolicited checks to people — “loans” at 33% interest rate.”

    Messy, there is an article in today’s Washington Post about predatory lending. One such company is owned by your Messiah Obama’s economic guru, Tim Geitner, who repeatedly attacked predatory lenders when Treasury Secretary.

    Why are you still a Democrat? Go to #walkaway, a support group started by James Woods for those who are no longer Democrats. It’s time for you to stop thinking like a child.

  1115. DW says:

    Trying to follow the World Cup Soccer this year. One question I still haven’t resolved is how to pronounce FIFA.

    is it…

    F-eye-f-uh?
    F-eye-f-aye?
    F-eye-f-AA?
    F-EE-f-uh?
    F-EE-f-aye?
    F-EE-f-AA?
    F-i-f-uh?
    F-i-f-aye?
    F-i-f-AA?

    Or maybe any of those ending with the short a sound as in ‘cat.’

    Soccer is really hard to figure out. Especially when teams often seem like they have zero goals but never do–its always ‘nil’ and teams don’t ever tie the game, they ‘level’ it.

  1116. NYCmike says:

    https://breakingdefense.com/2018/06/israel-to-us-dont-sell-f-35s-to-turkey/

    -I agree with Israel in this matter.

    The more I read about Turkey, the more I think they have gone a different way, and are NOT a friend, nor an ally.

  1117. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Zzzzzzzzzzz. Tariffs are a bad idea no matter who uses them. Tell me again how you do not support tariffs but then explain why Trump’s tariffs are acceptable.

  1118. Robbie says:

    I don’t like to mention individual polls, especially online polls, but I think this SurveyMonkey/NBC poll demonstrates perfectly how Supreme Court fights unite the Republican Party.

    If Trump were smart, he’d spend the next four months highlighting issues which unify the party as SCOTUS does instead of focusing on issues that divide the party like tariffs. It might just save the majorities if this poll is correct.

    Steve Kornacki
    @SteveKornacki

    NBC News/SurveyMonkey poll conducted after Kennedy SCOTUS announcement has Trump approve/disapprove at 48/50% and Dems +3 on the generic ballot:

  1119. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 3, 2018 at 8:55 am
    NYC – Zzzzzzzzzzz. Tariffs are a bad idea no matter who uses them. Tell me again how you do not support tariffs but then explain why Trump’s tariffs are acceptable.

    – If Trump decided to nationalize some aspect of the American economy, NYCmike would support it because Trump supports it.

  1120. Redmen4ever says:

    it’s fee-vah as in “You give me fee-vah, fee-vah in the morning, fee-vah all through the night.”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGb5IweiYG8

  1121. mnw says:

    48-51

  1122. Todd McCain says:

    This could end up turning into a 1998 election.

  1123. mnw says:

    1151

    I always thought she sort of invented herself, MADE herself be sexy & sultry. I admire that. She wasn’t born on third base with Mickey Mantle coming up to bat, as it were.

  1124. mnw says:

    NBC News/Survey Monkey poll:

    GCB +3 DEMS

    Trump JA 48/50

    This poll might be worth noting because it was conducted 100% post-Kennedy retirement announcement.

    (Survey Monkey is to quality polling what Mad Dog is to Champagne, however.)

  1125. NYCmike says:

    “– If Trump decided to nationalize some aspect of the American economy, NYCmike would support it because Trump supports it.”

    -Just like I supported him signing that omnibus bill, correct?

    Are selective memories the mark of both A-Holes and Pogo Loco loonies?

  1126. mnw says:

    Politico/Morning Consult:

    GCB +8 DEMs

    Trump JA 43/54

  1127. Mr.Vito says:

    New York Times: Hey, Let’s Kill The First Amendment. It’s Helping Conservatives Too Much.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/32555/new-york-times-hey-lets-kill-first-amendment-its-ben-shapiro

  1128. NYCmike says:

    “Tariffs are a bad idea no matter who uses them.”

    -In principle, correct.

    In reality, when whole towns are being decimated by factories closing up shop, and the citizens of those towns voted twice for Obama, but then switched to Trump in the past election, is there NOT any time in your thought process where you stop and ask “Should I be a bit more pragmatic in regard to this situation?”.

    Also, please make sure part of that thought process includes the specific office being spoken about, as different offices are given different powers (for example, Senators have different powers than Congressmen, who have different powers from Presidents).

    Don’t just make a reflexive response like a dog would.

  1129. DW says:

    Switzerland 0
    Sweden 0

    28 minutes in.

  1130. Chicon says:

    NYC – take it with a big grain of salt; it comes from someone who despises the President despite getting the top two issues on his own wish list.

  1131. DW says:

    Switzerland 0
    Sweden 0

    Halftime

  1132. mnw says:

    My only concern about the tariffs (i.e., the trade silly boy slap contest) is that Trump has too many fights going on simultaneously.

    I prefer divide & conquer myself, but then I didn’t get elected, did I?

  1133. Cash Cow TM says:

    Honk.

  1134. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    July 2, 2018 at 11:38 pm
    If I had to bet, I’d go with Biden for 2020.

    – He’d win too. Regardless of accomplishments, Trump fatigue will be an issue.

  1135. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    July 3, 2018 at 10:39 am
    NYC – take it with a big grain of salt; it comes from someone who despises the President despite getting the top two issues on his own wish list.

    – Yes, regardless of policy Trump is still a bad person. Tax cuts or appointing judges we’d have gotten from any other Republican doesn’t change who he is. I’m sorry that’s so hard for you to understand.

  1136. DW says:

    Switzerland 0
    Sweden 0

    63 minutes in

  1137. DW says:

    Switzerland 0
    Sweden 1

    69 minute mark

    I am a Mets fan–reduced to posting world cup scores.

  1138. NYCmike says:

    “– He’d win too. Regardless of accomplishments, Trump fatigue will be an issue.”

    -Fatigue from winning?

  1139. lisab says:

    My only concern about the tariffs (i.e., the trade silly boy slap contest) is that Trump has too many fights going on simultaneously.
    ————————————–

    tarriffs are a prisoner’s dilemma game

    the best way is to hit any country that raises a tarriff with a tarriff that hurts them

    AND

    to make it clear you will raise and lower tarriffs lock step with theirs

    so they know they can do better by plaing nice

  1140. NYCmike says:

    “– Yes, regardless of policy Trump is still a bad person.”

    -Robbie knows him well……”Maggie” told him all about how BAD Trump is, especially to kids, women, and LGBTQ-Non-binary persons, who Robbie especially cares so much about.

  1141. Robbie says:

    The wild swings back and forth here about Kavanaugh are laughable. Kavanaugh is a textualist and an originalist. Was his Obamacare ruling funky? Yep, but he was also attempting to follow precedent. On top of that, he found a way to avoid ruling on a contentious issue that now won’t be part of any Democrat takedown in confirmation hearings.

    In today’s WSJ, JD Vance wrote about his experience as a law student of Kavanaugh’s. It was very interesting and fit with many of the things others students and clerks of Kavanaugh have said. Namely, Kavanaugh is in line with Scalia and Thomas and would fit in well with Alito and Gorsuch.

    Kavanaugh is not number 1 on my list, but let’s not act as if he’s Souter or Kennedy. He’s long been viewed as a SCOTUS short lister by all of the right people, namely Leonard Leo. Leo knows how to vet nominees. Best of all, Kavanaugh knows exactly why he’s being considered. He knows people have him high on the list so he can serve as the fifth reliable conservative vote.

    My guess is on the key cases, he will be there and almost certainly would have ruled Obamacare unconstitutional had he been on the Court in 2012.

    I’m back to where I was on Friday. Any of Kavanaugh, Kethledge, Barrett, and Thapar are a homerun.

  1142. Waingro says:

    Well Jim Jordan is dunzo as a threat to McCarthy’s inevitable path towards speakership anyway.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/03/jim-jordan-accused-ignoring-sexual-abuse-allegations-ohio-state/754455002/

  1143. lisab says:

    Alec Baldwin, Martin Sheen to go on 24 hour hunger strike for immigrants.
    ——————

    alec baldwin should maybe consider a 3 week hunger strike …

    just saying 🙂

  1144. Chicon says:

    1166 – I didn’t hire him to be a good person. Perhaps that’s part of the job description to you, and you’re entitled to it; just as I am that it isn’t for me.

    I guess we can debate forever whether another Republican would have beaten Hillary AND accomplished what he’s done. But the primary voter chose him.

  1145. Chicon says:

    1170 – well said.

    Does this mean that advertising that we’ll never raise tariffs is not an effective way to get the other side to lower their tariffs? 🙂

  1146. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 3, 2018 at 11:36 am
    “– Yes, regardless of policy Trump is still a bad person.”
    -Robbie knows him well……”Maggie” told him all about how BAD Trump is, especially to kids, women, and LGBTQ-Non-binary persons, who Robbie especially cares so much about.

    – I know he has repeatedly cheated on his wives, made offensive comments about women and minorities, and pushed a bogus conspiracy theory to the FoxNews droolers that Obama wasn’t born in the United States and was therefore wasn’t a valid president. I also know he claimed Ted Cruz’s dad played a role in JFK’s assassination.

    So yes, I know Trump is a bad person because of his actions and I also know you are becoming denser by the day. You have devolved from Tea Party conservative into a Trump populist.

  1147. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    July 3, 2018 at 11:39 am
    1166 – I didn’t hire him to be a good person. Perhaps that’s part of the job description to you, and you’re entitled to it; just as I am that it isn’t for me.

    – The new Trumpian Republican Party – If you give me what I want, you be can as awful as you want.

  1148. Chicon says:

    1177 – all those things you list – which do strongly suggest a bad guy – were known prior to the election. The people decided to hire him anyway.

  1149. Waingro says:

    Here is the full NBC report on the OSU/Jim Jordan story. It’s absolutely brutal. I take it back: Jim Jordan is DONE period.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/powerful-gop-rep-jim-jordan-accused-turning-blind-eye-sexual-n888386

  1150. Chicon says:

    1178 – it’s a democracy, eh? The people get who they want.

  1151. mnw says:

    Wain 1180

    You DO realize this was first reported 3 months ago? It’s a nothing burger. Jordan was an assistant coach; isn’t accused of any sex crimes; stated 3 months ago he didn’t have any knowledge of the team doctor’s misconduct.

    “He’s DONE period.” Really? You anticipate based on this warmed-over weak tea that he’ll lose in Nov., then?

  1152. Robbie says:

    Ed Whelan
    @EdWhelanEPPC

    From former Kavanaugh clerk who clerked for Kennedy when Obamacare case was decided: “I can tell you with certainty that the only justices following a roadmap from Brett Kavanaugh were the ones who said Obamacare was unconstitutional.” 2/

  1153. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    July 3, 2018 at 11:53 am
    1178 – it’s a democracy, eh? The people get who they want.

    – Yes, I agree. I also think conservatives should expect more especially since we have attacked Democrats in the past for their personal behavior.

    But you are right.

  1154. Robbie says:

    Ed Whelan
    @EdWhelanEPPC

    Two of the best conservative judges in the country–Silberman and Sutton–*rejected* challenge to Obamacare mandate. Criticism of Kavanaugh opinion on no jurisdiction strikes me as wildly excessive in context of his outstanding record. 3/

    – For perspective, Silbermann was considered for Kennedy’s seat before Kennedy was nominated. He was scuttled because he was personally pro-choice. He has said, though, he would have overturned Roe vs. Wade in 1992 because of his textualism and originalism.

    If age wasn’t a factor, Sutton would be my first choice.

  1155. Phil says:

    Just appoint Barrett and let’s get on with it.

  1156. NYCmike says:

    “Jordan worked as an assistant wrestling coach at Ohio State from 1987 until 1995.”

    Waingro,

    Nothing like allegations from over 20 years ago to derail a political opportunity.

  1157. NYCmike says:

    “You have devolved from Tea Party conservative into a Trump populist.”

    -Well, please define “Tea Party conservative” and “Trump populist”, so that I can figure out if I agree with your statement or not.

    I know the Tea Party would have disagreed with that omnibus spending bill, as I did. Trump has not done much in terms of controlling spending.

  1158. DW says:

    Phil–yes. That is my position on it. Lets sit back and watch Schumer and his ilk savage an accomplished woman and mother of seven children.

  1159. NYCmike says:

    I need to ask – how does a college-age wrestler get touched inappropriately by his doctor?

    If you get touched inappropriately during a match, do you crawl up in a ball, and then tell someone about it 20-30 years later?

    Or do you take your wrestling onesie and stick it down the doctors throat, while simultaneously kicking his ass?!?

  1160. NYCmike says:

    College-age wrestler?

    Not a kid in high school, or grammar school.

    College age!

    Even with Sandusky, why don’t these young men say something!?!? Why the heck do they stay silent?

    I don’t understand that part of the equation.

    How, or why, do they let these sick perverts get away with it?

  1161. Phil says:

    Exactly, DW. The left cannot help themselves. Let them go for it. Plays right into Trump’s hands.

  1162. mnw says:

    NYC 1190

    I love the fact that Jordan’s principal accuser, “Jordan’s lying when he says he didn’t know!”, is an ex-con who went to prison for embezzlement.

    To be fair, the guy admits that, “I haven’t led a perfect life.”

  1163. NYCmike says:

    mnw, I did not even read that part.

    The whole thing just sounds fishy, right when Jordan is looking to step up into a leadership post.

  1164. NYCmike says:

    Imran Awan cuts a deal?

    I expect Tina will have something to say about that later.

    I will also expect Bitterlaw to say NOTHING about it.

  1165. Phil says:

    …besides, how long do you think it will take Gloria Alffred to hold a press conference in which she brings forth some woman claiming sexual harassment by Kavanaugh from 25 years ago back in law school? I think about five minutes.

    Nominate Barrett and then pop some popcorn and enjoy the show from the left. It will be an epic and entertaining meltdown.

  1166. jason says:

    “Tariffs are a bad idea no matter who uses them.”

    -In principle, correct.A”

    Translation: unless Trump institutes, them, then I will sell out my “principles” in a nanosecond.

  1167. Phil says:

    Maw, Democrats probably have the next Anita Hill in the wings ready to “tell all” about how Thaker “sexually harassed” her in 8th grade history class. They are interviewing his former junior high female classmates as I type this.

  1168. jason says:

    – If Trump decided to nationalize some aspect of the American economy, NYCmike would support it because Trump supports it.”

    Would?

    NYC used to claim to be a conservative.

    Now he is “if Trump does it, it must be conservative”.

  1169. jason says:

    Yep I hope they vet the heck out any nominee.

    Not that they won’t be subject to BS attacks anyway, but at least make sure there are no “real” skeletons in the closet, just deal with the fake ones.

  1170. Waingro says:

    #1194, if that guy was the only accuser, I would be totally with you, but there are multiple accusers and witnesses who said they told Jordan directly about it.

    Plus, the former head coach (who apparently was Jordan’s right hand man) is on video corroborating at least some of the doctor’s actions too. Seems like he’s going to be a witness in OSU’s ongoing investigation.

    This is a lot more than a non-credible witness with a possible partisan ax to grind. The story isn’t going to go away that quickly.

    ““He’s DONE period.” Really? You anticipate based on this warmed-over weak tea that he’ll lose in Nov., then?”

    No, while I don’t share your “warmed-over weak tea” conclusion, I have to admit that I’m overreacting there. I DO think as I said earlier that this hurts his chances for running as an opposition voice against McCarthy’s bid for speaker that could potentially keep McCarthy getting enough votes to secure it. But maybe someone else from the FC steps up.

    I’ve been a huge Jim Jordan fan, so I guess I’m just more personally disappointed to read this than anything. Hey, I hope my initial take is wrong, and this a total hatchet job!

  1171. mnw says:

    I think the DEMs might run into heavy seas if they find an old allegation against a judge who was already confirmed ONCE. Uh… how come this didn’t come up at the FIRST hearing? How come it’s only coming out now, after the guy is nominated for SCOTUS?

  1172. Waingro says:

    “The whole thing just sounds fishy, right when Jordan is looking to step up into a leadership post.”

    I will grant you that the timing is very suspicious, NYC.

  1173. jason says:

    England vs Colombia in 40 minutes…

    Will decide who the final 8 are in the World Cup.

    Brazil, Belgium, Sweden, Uruguay, France, Russia, Croatia… and England or Colombia.

  1174. mnw says:

    Wain

    I kind of agree with your post 1203. I think it hurts his chances a lot for a bigger leadership role… although it shouldn’t, imo.

    Why did these accusers wait 23 years before coming forward? The accusations are too old to ever be proven or disproven. Plus, he was an ASSISTANT. Kind of smacks of another Gloria All-Red hit to me.

  1175. DW says:

    Switzerland game featured every defender’s nightmare. Don’t touch the ball and your goalie has an easy save. Try to get a foot on ball to stop it and risk deflecting it around your goalie and into net. The Swiss defender chose to risk it. 1-0 Sweden wins.

  1176. Waingro says:

    #1207, the fact that they waited this long to come forward doesn’t alarm me. Credible allegations of sexual abuse have come from reports made many years after the fact. Multiple reasons why this occurs.

    NYC makes a good point, however, that the accusers here were college aged, division 1 sport athletes. It does strike me as odd that this doctor would physically be able to do any of the alleged molesting against this demo!

  1177. Walt Duke says:

    I think it is sad that the new generation is
    Turning its collective back on the ways of their parents
    in so many things…
    –baseball basketball and football replaced with soccer, lacrosse and ice hockey.
    –child rearing and disciplining children gotten Goodyear
    –repudiation of many values of previous generation…

    Wonder when they will realize their mistake….we are seeing aleady seeing the results of the goofiness of the current batch of teens and twenty years oldish who expect free everything and other silliness and are on so many meds…

  1178. mnw says:

    1209

    It would alarm someone in my former line of work enough to say, “I have real stuff to look at. No interest at all. A jury wouldn’t even leave the box to deliberate this old he said/he said krap. Sorry. Busy.”

  1179. Cash Cow TM says:

    Even card games and board games are repudiation of those
    enyoyed by the older generation.

  1180. Cash Cow TM says:

    Kids today need more sugar, stiffer punishment when they
    misbehave, be told they cannot be anything they want to be and be offered less choices.

  1181. Chicon says:

    1184 – I understand that. I was Cruz or Rubio in the primaries – I thought of Trump a lot like you do, although not as deeply. I never thought he’d get the nomination or win the election. I began to really pull for him after the convention when the incessant and irrational attacks from the media began. The more they go at him, the more I root for him.

  1182. Mr.Vito says:

    1192 Mike:

    “Since President Trump’s election, journalists, political scientists and others from across the United States and around the world have visited our little southern Ohio town, population 6,600, to study the natives.”

    So now they are taking safaris through the middle of the country to find the elusive Trump voter in the wild?

  1183. Tgca says:

    So I was in a small town library in Broward county today, and overheard this conversation.

    Older Gay Guy:
    I brought in these DVDs to donate because I’m moving to Arkansas.

    Gay Male Librarian:
    Why do you want to move there?

    Older Gay Guy:
    I like the peace and quiet.

    Busty Middle-aged Attractive Female Librarian:
    You sure you want to move there? Be careful there. Make sure you have someone to watch your back. You have life insurance?

    Implication:
    Downside for gays moving to Arkansas is they will be beaten and killed. Upside of gays moving to Arkansas is loved ones will cash in on their demise.

    Moral of the Story:
    TG should not listen in on other people’s STOOPID IGNORANT conversations and compliment the Busty Middle-aged Attractive Female Librarian on how well she is at stacking the racks.

  1184. DW says:

    Colombia 0
    England 0

    after 45 minutes of play.

  1185. DW says:

    Texas Senate

    O’Rourke 36
    Cruz 48

    Baselice & Associates Inc.
    May 21-28

    Sort of dated, but another good poll for Cruz

  1186. NYCmike says:

    “So now they are taking safaris through the middle of the country to find the elusive Trump voter in the wild?”

    -This will be the one time that they want the “animal” to be confined in a zoo.

  1187. Bitterlaw says:

    Young people today are not as (fill in the category) as prior generations? Zzzzzzzzzzz

    Every generation since Walt was born (or created – not sure) bitched about the next one. I know many hard working, respectful young people. Every generation has good and bad members.

    “But Bitterr….They look at their phones all day. They don’t play Monopoly. They don’t…….”. Here is a shocking fact- Your parents and grandparents thought you sucked, too, and you turned out fine.

  1188. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 3, 2018 at 1:03 pm
    …besides, how long do you think it will take Gloria Alffred to hold a press conference in which she brings forth some woman claiming sexual harassment by Kavanaugh from 25 years ago back in law school? I think about five minutes.
    Nominate Barrett and then pop some popcorn and enjoy the show from the left. It will be an epic and entertaining meltdown.

    – We have one shot to get this right. If the nominee loses the support of Collins and Murkowski, Democrats will have succeeded in delaying this nomination until after the election. Barrett’s abortion comments could easily do that. If she’s the pick, I’ll enthusiastically support her, but she is high risk/high reward.

    Choosing a Supreme Court justice should not come down to whether to not that person “owns the libs”

  1189. DW says:

    Colombia now levels play with England who had led one to nil through regular play and three minutes into stoppage play.

    Translation:

    England led 1-0 and Columbia tied it with just seconds left to play.

  1190. NYCmike says:

    “– We have one shot to get this right.”

    -Got it.

    Trump has to do this in one shot, or else it is his fault.

    It has NEVER happened in history where a nominee was voted down.

  1191. Phil says:

    Barrett is high risk high reward? Well, I can’t really argue with that. You would need the pre approval of the squishy two Republican senate chicks. No doubt about that. If you want someone who is bullitproof you could always go Kethledge. He is a solid conservative with impressive credentials and handles himself well. Would breeze through hearings and Dems would not lay a glove on him. I’m fine with him as well. Could save a woman for The Ginsburg seat should it open up. Either way, Dems are in a tough position. Kethledge is indeed impressive.

  1192. NYCmike says:

    “Choosing a Supreme Court justice should not come down to whether to not that person “owns the libs””

    -Well, we could go the Souter route…..

  1193. NYCmike says:

    The women who support partial birth abortion? (Collins voted against the bill banning that procedure, not sure about Murk)

    We need to bow to pressure from them?

    How about we provide pictures of what happens during that procedure, and simply ask “Should this nominee be held up, or voted down, because they may consider this procedure, although Hitler-ian in nature, to be of the utmost importance, or should the Senators vote on the merits of the nominee’s competence and credentials?”

  1194. NYCmike says:

    On Instapundit (Robbie quiet on this topic):

    “THIS UPDATE IS UNBELIEVABLE: Rosiak reports federal prosecutors have given Awan a sweetheart deal, despite the conclusions of the House IG reported in the following:

    IF LUKE ROSIAK DOESN’T GET A PULITZER FOR EXPOSING HOUSE IT SCANDAL: The Daily Caller News Foundation investigative reporter has been on top of this story since February 2017 and broken virtually every incredible advance on it since then. His latest scoop is this:

    A secret memo marked “URGENT” detailed how the House Democratic Caucus’s server went “missing” soon after it became evidence in a cybersecurity probe. The secret memo also said more than “40 House offices may have been victims of IT security violations.”

    In the memo, Congress’s top law enforcement official, Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving, along with Chief Administrative Officer Phil Kiko, wrote, “We have concluded that the employees [Democratic systems administrator Imran Awan and his family] are an ongoing and serious risk to the House of Representatives, possibly threatening the integrity of our information systems and thereby members’ capacity to serve constituents.”

    The memo, addressed to the Committee on House Administration (CHA) and dated Feb. 3, 2017, was recently reviewed and transcribed by The Daily Caller News Foundation. The letter bolsters TheDCNF’s previous reporting about the missing server and evidence of fraud on Capitol Hill.

    Awan’s main congressional protector for years has been former Democratic National Committee Chairman Debbie Wasserman-Schultz who may well have provided a textbook illustration of how a member of Congress can use the position to obstruct justice.

    But other than the fact Rosiak is virtually the only journalist pursuing what looks increasingly like a scandal of gigantic proportions, perhaps the biggest mystery is this: Where is Speaker of the House Paul Ryan?

    The security and integrity of Congress have clearly been compromised but Ryan runs the other way whenever the issue comes before him.”

  1195. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “1222– We have one shot to get this right.”

    Whose “We” Robbie. And your are still claiming your a conservative? You constantly post comments from CNN and other leftist sources; you have not supported a Republican presidential candidate in decades. Liz re-posted your comment from 2006 which blasted Bush, whom you claimed had destroyed the Republican Party like you claim Trump has done now.

  1196. DW says:

    England holds on to win penalty shootout against Colombia and advance to final 8.

  1197. Messy says:

    1227. it’s only used when it’s the baby or the mother or both. No one who claims to be pro-life wants both mother AND child to die, right?

  1198. Cash Cow TM says:

    We hiked at a state park down to see some falls.
    The mo skeetos were fierce.

  1199. Cash Cow TM says:

    What kind of potato chips do sheep like?

    BAA-BAA Que chips!

  1200. Hugh says:

    Bitter. I beg to disagree my company is one of fortune magazines best places for a Millennial to work. We hire from the best colleges and pay very well. Are they hard working yes? Are they near as good employees as boomers or gen x? Not even close on about ant valuable work trait they lag in studies generally by a lot. Except of course technology. I think part of it is they had so much school work and planned activities they are burned out before they even start a career.

  1201. DW says:

    Encouraging link at Drudge:

    Maxine Waters done with ‘nice guy politics’…

    I said a couple of weeks ago that the GOP leadership has to be daily on their knees begging God to allow Maxine Waters to keep talking and keep being the face of the Democratic Party.

  1202. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Democrats are in the self-destruct mode:

    “Democratic National Committee (DNC) Chairman Tom Perez said Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez represents the “future of our party” on Tuesday.

    “I have three kids. Two of them are daughters — one just graduated college, one who is in college. And they were both texting me about their excitement over Alexandria because she really — she represents the future of our party,” Perez said on “The Bill Press Show.”

  1203. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1233. “Cash Cow TM says:

    “What kind of potato chips do sheep like? BAA-BAA Que chips!”

    Cow, I hope your still a good milk producer, because I don’t think your vaudeville skills will save you from the glue factory.

  1204. jason says:

    Cow, don’t listen to SD, you just mosey on over here to York and I guarantee you won’t be made into glue.

    Most cows here become hamb….huh, get set out to pasture to enjoy their golden years.

  1205. jason says:

    Whose “We” Robbie. And your are still claiming your a conservative? You constantly post comments from CNN and other leftist sources; you have not supported a Republican presidential candidate in decades. Liz re-posted your comment from 2006 which blasted Bush, whom you claimed had destroyed the Republican Party like you claim Trump has done now.”

    Amoral Scumbag’s M.O. never changes.

    He did exactly the same thing against Romney too. The subject of the attacks change, but it’s basically the same thing. Nothing the leftist media throws out is too low for him to regurgitate here. If Romney had been elected, you would have seen the same abject hatred against him you see against Trump.

    The guy has the morals of a maggot.

  1206. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 3, 2018 at 4:51 pm
    “1222– We have one shot to get this right.”
    Whose “We” Robbie. And your are still claiming your a conservative? You constantly post comments from CNN and other leftist sources; you have not supported a Republican presidential candidate in decades. Liz re-posted your comment from 2006 which blasted Bush, whom you claimed had destroyed the Republican Party like you claim Trump has done now.

    – Unlike you, I have been a conservative my entire life and, with the exception of Trump, I have only voted for Republicans. God forbid I would hold your man Trump to the same standards I have held other presidents like Clinton or Bush. But, go on. Please tell me how an Independent like you is somehow an authority on my beliefs. Better yet, please tell me how supporting Trump lock, stock, and barrel is conservative since Trump clearly advocates things which aren’t conservative like trade wars or sidling up to dictators like Putin and Kim while trashing longtime allies like France, Great Britain, and Canada.

    Thank goodness Independent Mr. But Rasmussen has joined the forum to tell me I haven’t supported Republican presidents even though I voted for Dole, GWB, McCain, and Romney. I guess the donations I made to GWB 04, McCain 08, Romney 12, McConnell 08 and 14, Rubio 10, Toomey 10, and to each of Anne Northup’s runs for the House were really diversion tactics to cover up for muh Deep State views.

    And by the way, Mr. But Rasmussen. Sadly, GWB did wreck the party starting 2006. Or did you the Independent not notice the party lost almost 60 House seats, 15 Senate seats, and the presidency in 2006 and 2008? That gave us Obamacare, stimulus, Dodd/Frank, Sotomayor, and Kagan. But again Mr. But Rasmussen, please tell me how all of that wasn’t the result of a party left in an ash heap. If GWB’s second term hadn’t been a dumpster fire, there never would have been the wipeouts that allowed Democrats to push through all of that legislation.

    Stick to posting and believing garbage Rasmussen polls next time.

  1207. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 3, 2018 at 7:15 pm
    Whose “We” Robbie. And your are still claiming your a conservative? You constantly post comments from CNN and other leftist sources; you have not supported a Republican presidential candidate in decades. Liz re-posted your comment from 2006 which blasted Bush, whom you claimed had destroyed the Republican Party like you claim Trump has done now.”
    Amoral Scumbag’s M.O. never changes.
    He did exactly the same thing against Romney too. The subject of the attacks change, but it’s basically the same thing. Nothing the leftist media throws out is too low for him to regurgitate here. If Romney had been elected, you would have seen the same abject hatred against him you see against Trump.
    The guy has the morals of a maggot.

    – But muh leftist talking points. I knew Jason fraud was a fraud, but I didn’t know the fraud was also a snowflake who can’t handle news from sources he doesn’t like.

    And since I’m an amoral scumbag, I’ve got something for you to choke on you worthless, fraudulent, Trump sack licker.

  1208. jason says:

    I have been a conservative my entire life”

    Like I said, Amoral Scumbag has the morals of a floating turd.

  1209. jason says:

    How many “conservatives” do you know that celebrated Obama’s win because his primary candidate wasn’t anointed the nominee in a stupid fantasy of a “brokered convention”?

  1210. jason says:

    who can’t handle news from sources he doesn’t like.”

    LOL

    Mr. Selective Polling himself talks about others not being able to handle news from sources he doesn’t like.

    Really funny.

    Now be a good little amoral scumbag and go check out what anti-Trump news of the day is on MSNBC.

    And GFY.

  1211. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1241. “who can’t handle news from sources he doesn’t like.”

    So Robbie you consider MSNBC and CNN to be accurate news sources?

  1212. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 3, 2018 at 7:53 pm
    I have been a conservative my entire life”

    Like I said, Amoral Scumbag has the morals of a floating turd.

    – Says the guy who defends ALMOST everything Trump does after having attacked him every day of the campaign and chose not to vote for him.

    But sure, let’s talk about morals, Jason fraud.

  1213. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 3, 2018 at 7:55 pm
    How many “conservatives” do you know that celebrated Obama’s win because his primary candidate wasn’t anointed the nominee in a stupid fantasy of a “brokered convention”?

    – How many conservatives like you attacked Trump every day of the campaign and chose not to vote for him only to support ALMOST everything he does including his ridiculous and nasty personal attacks on members of the media? Oh wait, they had it coming to them because you’re a snowflake who can’t handle news that doesn’t match your preconceived views.

  1214. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 3, 2018 at 7:58 pm
    who can’t handle news from sources he doesn’t like.”

    LOL

    Mr. Selective Polling himself talks about others not being able to handle news from sources he doesn’t like.

    – Wrong, dipsh!t. I’m fine with including the crappy Rasmussen polls in the RCP average. I just think it’s laughable for anyone to use them as a stand alone piece of data because they are garbage. Of course, you know this because I have corrected you dozens of times when you have barfed up this lie. But it’s easier for you to lie and I hope I just can’t always be here to correct your BS.

  1215. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 3, 2018 at 8:11 pm
    1241. “who can’t handle news from sources he doesn’t like.”

    So Robbie you consider MSNBC and CNN to be accurate news sources?

    – I consider them every bit as accurate as the nonsense that appears on FoxNews.

    Also, I make a distinction between the reporting that appears on FoxNews or CNN and the opinion hosts that dominate the primetime lineups on all three cable news stations.

    For instance, I think John Roberts does a great job at FoxNews. The same generally goes for Ed Henry. On CNN, I like the reporting Caitlin Collins and Jeff Zeleny do, and I have always found the reporting of Pete Williams from NBC to be second to none. Williams, by the way, was the Pentagon spokesman for Cheney during the first gulf war.

  1216. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    You have a long list of sources which you refuse to read/listen to/watch, etc.

    Every source you have, which most people here take in as a legitimate, BUT BIASED, source, and do NOT consider it gospel truth, the way you do.

    Forget about Pope Francis, you worship at the desk of the NY Times/WAPO columnist.

  1217. lisab says:

    I’ve got something for you to choke on you worthless, fraudulent, Trump sack licker.
    ——————————-

    says the self-professed devout catholic

  1218. lisab says:

    romney: he might get tagged as being the next bush

    jeb bush: who was literally the next bush, was the greatest thing since sliced bread

  1219. Bitterlaw says:

    Walt – What was the greatest thing before sliced bread?

  1220. mnw says:

    Guys?

    If you completely ignore these stupid illiterate braying trolls? They’ll leave you alone, for the most part, & probably disappear themselves eventually.

  1221. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw – I like different views. Otherwise, this is a Trump-love echo chamber where NYC and JC compete to see who can blow Trump more often.

  1222. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1249. “So Robbie you consider MSNBC and CNN to be accurate news sources?

    – I consider them every bit as accurate as the nonsense that appears on FoxNews.”

    This basically says it all. Critical of Bush, McCain, Romney & Trump, Fox News; loves to quote CNN, MSNBC, and leftist blogs. Yet claims to be loyal Republican and conservative. Who are you trying to fool?

    Yes Robbie, I am a political independent. But at least people know where I am coming from. Two California Democratic state legislative leaders are personal friends of mine, despite my views being to the right of theirs. They know my views are different, but we are honest about it and get along.

    I have no problem with your views Robbie, it is the game you are play that turns me and others off. Its fake. You come on the board gloating over potential Republicans loses, then try and claim you are sad because it concerns you as a true Republican. Do you think anyone is taken in by the concerned troll act?

  1223. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1255. “mnw – I like different views.”

    I am going to agree with Bitter. It is good to have Robbie for sake of a lively debate. But am going to call him on his BS.

  1224. Phil says:

    MSNBC and CNN to be every bit as accurate as FOX NEWS?

    Seriously?

  1225. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag, a “conservative” says CNN and MSNBC are as accurate as FOX.

    Nothing more needs to be said.

  1226. Bitterlaw says:

    HHR is a special place. We have the world’s
    oldest man. We have a-holes and A-holes. We even have 3 right leaning gay men and the world’s greatest expert on gay men (lisab).

  1227. jason says:

    t is good to have Robbie for sake of a lively debate.”

    What debate?

    You want to debate Rachel Madcow? What is the difference between her and Amoral Scumbag? Exact same talking points.

    The guy never had an original idea in his life, every word is something he read at some left wing site.

  1228. NYCmike says:

    “Otherwise, this is a Trump-love echo chamber where NYC and JC compete to see who can blow Trump more often.”

    -Tell us how much you hate Trump again.

  1229. jason says:

    ncluding his ridiculous and nasty personal attacks on members of the media?”

    Amoral Scumbag wants the biased, dishonest, unprofessional media to have a free ride. The same dishonest media that was a surrogate for Obama’s propaganda machine for 8 years.

    Thanks to Trump, that no longer happens.

    The fact Amoral Scumbag thinks the MSM isn’t biased shows its much more than just being naive or stupid.

    It means he agrees with their agenda.

  1230. jason says:

    After Gorsuch, I would say Trump’s war on the media is the most positive aspect of his Presidency.

    I have said before, I am not sure he can beat them, but I certainly support him trying.

  1231. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1261. “The guy never had an original idea in his life, every word is something he read at some left wing site.”

    Yes, but look at the good side, you don’t have to check left-wing websites for the latest Democratic talking points. Robbie has already posted them here.

  1232. Tina says:

    Saw your post, nyc. I do not know what happened re the apparent weak sentencing given to Awan, we may know something by the end of this week. If the doj did not get anything for Awan, then sessions needs to quit.

    This could be swamp covering for swamp, or the mother of all charges coming down on Whatchamacallit.

  1233. Tina says:

    Cnn is most accurate, and then msnbc.

    Jebot

  1234. Tina says:

    Of perhaps more important, Pete the cheat was subpoenaed.

    He will not testify publicly per his lawyer. His lawyer previously stated that he would.

    I wonder if he fails to show, or pleads the fifth.

    Pete is the gift that keeps on given and has Fuhrer Mulehead stalemated.

  1235. Phil says:

    Remember how hard W hit back at the MSM during his second term? Yeah, me neither. Going into a crouch position and letting the MSM kick the sh*t out of him worked beautifully. Did Bush ever get past 38% during his second term? Yep, take everything the left wing press throws at you 24/7 and just grin. Works great.

  1236. Tina says:

    And pay no attention to the senate unintelligence committee.

    Warner heads it, burr is just there as token figurehead.

    The pols that are on it are the among the most corrupt out there.

  1237. Tina says:

    But Mute 43 came out and spoke about the muh kids in cages.

    Until, it was pointed out that he did the same and their were actual pics of children in cages or wrapped in foil under obumbler,

    Notice, after those pics, nobody mentions the muh separation, not even the jebots?

  1238. lisab says:

    the world’s greatest expert on gay men (lisab).
    ———————————–

    gay men are a mystery …

    strangely, gay men do not bare their souls to straight women like they do on will and grace

  1239. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I hate Trump. GFY.

    If I ever met him where he was acting in his role as President, I would shake his hand. If we just happened to be in the same place, I would not. He is scum. Useful scum since he beat Hilary and will appoint at least 2 SCOTUS justices. He also signed the Ryan-McConnell tax cuts so that is a bonus. I will never like or respect the man. He opposes Democrats (for now) so I am stuck with him.

    If he runs as. a Republican in 2020, I will vote for him and hope he wins. If he wins, January 20, 2025 will be a great day as he finally leaves the stage and can go back to his amoral life as a liberal media star.

  1240. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina to call me a Jebot in 3…2…1…

  1241. jason says:

    Happy 4th of July!

    Of course, Amoral Scumbag’s MSM heroes have a headline “Many Americans now have mixed feelings about the 4th of July”.

    Hey Amoral Scumbag, MSM and those with “mixed feelings”.

    GFYs.

  1242. jason says:

    I don’t hate Trump. I hate a lot of what he stands for, which is different.

    But Bitter’s description of him as a useful tool to foil the Democrats and their socialist agenda is on the money.

    Trump is not a Republican and not a conservative. He is an opportunist. As Bitter says, I wouldn’t be surprised if after his presidency he went back to being the liberal Democrat he always was.

    Which is fine with me, actually. I hope he can do some good for America in the interim with what is positive about his agenda, and that the damage he will do with what is not good about his agenda is limited.

  1243. jason says:

    Has Burr become a RINO?

    Hard to keep count.

    Maybe Tina can just list the few Rs that are NOT RINOS, then we will only have a small list as we check them off.

  1244. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina is not a Republican but she is the head RINO hunter at HHR. NYC and JC are her deputies.

  1245. Tina says:

    And Bl is the head rino apologist.

    Rinos are real cons. I read it here.

  1246. Bitterlaw says:

    Sorry, Tina. If you want lockstep orthodox thought you can become a Dem. I prefer the Big Tent GOP.

  1247. Tina says:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/03/trump-dnc-hacking-693965

    Judge tosses trump,stone, muh Russian case.

    Flimsy.

    Lol

  1248. Tina says:

    You would have think that Fuhrer Mulehead would have seized the dnc servers by now?

    Notice how Comedy was involved in that deal, but he is a “republican, who wanted Hillary appointed.”

  1249. Tina says:

    No, I just wan conservative principles.

    Burr has done a terrible job as chair. I cannot say he is a rino.

    I can only say that the committee members are largely corrupt pols.

    Infer what you want.

  1250. jason says:

    I can only say that the committee members are largely corrupt pols.”

    And your evidence for calling them corrupt pols is what exactly?

    Saying you don’t like the way Burr chairs the committee is one thing.

    Saying he is corrupt is another.

  1251. jason says:

    It’s funny how Tina always misses the biggest RINO of them all, the guy who was a registered Dem and funded Chuck Schumer for decades.

    Maybe the RINO is so big she thinks its a mountain.

  1252. Hugh says:

    While Warner is all over the TV making wild speculations and and outragious acusations Burr does nothing and let’s the dems run over him. I am not a rino hunter but I hope he gets primaried and loses

  1253. Cash Cow TM says:

    Happy mo-fo birthday, United States of America!

  1254. Mr.Vito says:

    A person with the title ‘Republican’ can’t be a RINO if they are acting like and enacting mainly Republican principles, by definition of “Republican in Name Only”.

    Both sides here are equally guilty of marginalizing Republicans flimsy evidence… I’m hard pressed to view any of you as “Big Tent” Republicans.

  1255. jason says:

    Despite all the whining, unions WERE using funds from non-members to pay for political activities.

    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/supreme-court-janus-union-dues-political-speech-first-amendment/

  1256. jason says:

    I’m hard pressed to view any of you as “Big Tent” Republicans.”

    I used to be a big tent Republican.

  1257. Tgca says:

    Happy Birthday AmeriKa!!!

    Many happy returns.

  1258. Tgca says:

    I’ve never been a “Big Tent” Republican. I’m not into camping. I prefer a cabin, be it log, stone, or metal.

  1259. Mr.Vito says:

    So, some observations…

    The fact is we need both “left”-think and “right”-think to make society work. OUR VERY OWN INDIVIDUAL BIOLOGY SAYS SO, with a brain that is divided into a hemisphere of leftward process and a hemisphere of rightward process, and a system for balancing the two into harmony… when they become unbalanced, or at least, incompatibly balanced, we are left with pathology and chaos.

    We can see this pathology brewing in our political system now, but even WITHIN the two parties, where there is a spectrum of more left views and more right views.

    In Skinner’s rat experiments, we see that if two friendly rats play a game, the one that is even ten percent stronger will win the game. However, in practice, the more dominant rat will let the other win about 30% of the time, because otherwise THE OTHER ONE STOPS PLAYING.

    When ‘RINOs’ and ‘deadenders’ refuse to give ground, it will breed this type of pathology within the party. Reagan seemed to understand this intuitively.

    The ‘establishment’ (i.e. dominant) Democrats USED to be good at making sure to throw ‘wins’ to their various constituencies so that they would continue to value the ‘game’. The socialists began to take over and refuse to cede ground to more rightward thinking, which led conservatives and white working class people to realize they were playing a game they could not win.

    Republicans were ripe for picking off these voters, by offering them incentive to play. The Republican establishment screwed up by not giving any ground to the ‘deadenders’ on any issue (remember the conversation I had here with Corey when I asked what out of 100 issues he would be willing to give ground on, and he said ZERO). Well, Trump appears to have been the come-uppance… people on the right and left became increasingly tired of a game that appeared “rigged” for the “elite” against their interest.

    If you want to keep people in the party, you will have to give them a few victories without demonizing them, even if it against your self-interest every once in a while.

  1260. Tgca says:

    Blue skies with slight scattered clouds and a manageable 87 degrees with 70% humidity. Maybe slight drizzles later in the day. I can handle that on this 4th day of July in the two thousand and 18th year of our Lord.

    It beats the 99 degree heat storm I was in during my Philly visit earlier this week.

  1261. CG says:

    I don’t happen to remember that conversation that way at all.

    To the extent I remember it, it involved Walt and his role as a state legislator and the concept of “compromise.” Since there seem to be some issues that I do not see eye to eye with Walt on (although we both voted against Trump), I said it would depend on the specifics of the issue before I knew if it would be right to give in to his side. I think we at least have to understand the issue and the significance of it. Depending on the specifics I might be able to “compromise” on 50 out of 100 or 10 or 70 or whatever. That’s how I remember this somewhat brief exchange from 2015 or early 2016 or that is what I wanted to get across, whether successful or not.

    I am all for the concept of compromise, but some things, such as core moral principles cannot be compromised.

    Happy Independence Day. America is and always has been Great. I hope one day soon it is better than it is today.

  1262. Mr.Vito says:

    Anyone who thinks they know best on 100 out of 100 political arguments is a fool, left or right. The wise man is the one who listens to and learns from every other man.

  1263. Mr.Vito says:

    ‘I don’t happen to remember that conversation that way at all.”

    It matters less how you perceived the conversation, and more how everyone else perceived the conversation. You were given multiple chances to express yourself, and the conclusion was zero, everytime.

    You don’t need to know any specifics on 100 point of contention between like-minded individuals to know you will need to give ground on some of them or lose their participation.

  1264. jason says:

    CG is hardly a good example for your point.

  1265. Mr.Vito says:

    It is also less important which 100 you think are significant, and more important which 100 they think are significant.

  1266. Mr.Vito says:

    “CG is hardly a good example for your point.”

    The no compromise conversation is exactly the example needed to make the point of the Skinner experiment.

  1267. jason says:

    Cash Cow is in a festive mood despite the aroma of burgers on the grill wafting from coast to coast.

  1268. Tgca says:

    Enjoy your holiday all and don’t forget the tofu burgers for your grilling pleasure today.

  1269. CG says:

    Elected officials, which was the hypothetical situation being discussed should not “give up” on something they believe in, just to appease the other side, sight unseen. Some things should be compromised on. Some things should be not. Not every issue is equal. People in elected positions should at least understand what they are willing to fight for and what they are willing to not fight for in order to reach a greater good.

    A far better example would be those who attacked Marco Rubio simply for appearing at a press conference with Chuck Schumer.

    But if this is the standard, out of 100 issues, sight unseen, how many out of 100 should Nancy Pelosi be given victories on?

  1270. jason says:

    I am for compromise, it is the deadenders that think its a dirty word.

    In any case this is a false equivalency.

    But whatever, the deadenders can have the party if they want, I now vote my own interests, I no longer have any loyalty to a party that has changed from the principles that attracted me to it.

  1271. Mr.Vito says:

    “Elected officials, which was the hypothetical situation being discussed should not “give up” on something they believe in, just to appease the other side, sight unseen. Some things should be compromised on.”

    No elected official should assume they have all the answers on 100 points of contention, or they will be ousted. An elected official WILL ALWAYS concede something that they believe in so that the constituents will continue to ‘play’… which is the ENTIRE POINT. Stop calling them names for making compromises.

  1272. jason says:

    I wouldn’t feed a tofu burger to my dog.

    We (and him) are having baby back ribs, hand formed burgers, and two types of sausage, weisswurst and bratwurst. All made of genuine beef and pork.

  1273. Mr.Vito says:

    You are more than welcome to ignore the biological and behavioral principles that I’ve stated above.

    Just stop complaining about the consequences when they bear the inevitable fruit…

  1274. CG says:

    1306.

    Whatever you are trying to say, does not apply to me in any way.

    All I remember from a very brief exchange a couple of years or more ago was that I asked for an example of an issue and you said that issues or specifics didn’t matter and that a politician has to be willing to give up on something, sight unseen, just to keep others from being too hurt or isolated.

    Compromise is fine. I am all for that in politics and government, but just placating someone for the sake of placating then, without knowing what it is you are giving up is dumb. A person who would do that is a person who would be taken for a ride by a con-artist.

    Specifics matter in politics and out of politics.

  1275. jason says:

    ‘stop calling them names for making compromises.”

    That comment should be directed at the deadenders, not me.

    I always encouraged elected officials to make compromises.

    The deadenders made compromise into a dirty word.

  1276. New York City says:

    A far better example would be those who attacked Marco Rubio simply for appearing at a press conference with Chuck Schumer.”

    Me, me, me!

    That RINO traitor shook Schumer’s hand. Primary him and give the seat to a liberal Dem, that will send a message.

    But I gave Trump a pass for funding Schumer for decades, no problem there.

  1277. Mr.Vito says:

    “That comment should be directed at the deadenders, not me.”

    You doesn’t call anyone names? You just lost all you A-hole points.

  1278. Mr.Vito says:

    “…without knowing what it is you are giving up is dumb.”

    All of 1293 and thereafter told you why. If you cannot understand what is being said there, and think it doesn’t apply to everyone (including you), then you were all the more the perfect example for that post.

  1279. jason says:

    I think what Mr. Vito is saying is that we should compromise with the deadenders that are completely against compromise.

    It’s hard to “compromise” if only one side wants to compromise.

    I don’t find this to be a persuasive argument even if rats thought it was a good idea.

  1280. jason says:

    You doesn’t call anyone names?”

    Not elected officials for making compromises, no, I doesn’t.

  1281. mnw says:

    The Orange County Record (Observer?) reported about a week ago that an anonymous McCain staffer said that McCain would resign today, on July 4th.

    Well… “the Ides have come, but not yet gone,” as the soothsayer told JC.

    I discovered that the OC Record (Observer?) is a free, 3x/week “shopping flyer.” So it has about as much credibility as CNN.

    RE Trump as conservative:

    Look… I thought he was a liberal too. Far more than enough evidence now exists for me to conclude that I have NEVER been more wrong. I’m just skipping articles & posts about that topic. It’s flat earth stuff now, imo.

  1282. Mr.Vito says:

    “I think what Mr. Vito is saying is that we should compromise with the deadenders that are completely against compromise. ”

    No, it is to late for that. You both already lost your party because you wouldn’t compromise. Now they get to decide whether to compromise with “you who won’t compromise.”

    And I am telling them they should.

  1283. Mr.Vito says:

    “Not elected officials for making compromises, no, I doesn’t.”

    Is Trump an elected official?

  1284. Mr.Vito says:

    Alternatively, perhaps you are right… perhaps l