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Dems Lead US Senate/Gov races in TN

If the new numbers from Emerson College are to be believed, Tennessee will be going blue in November in the US Senate and Gubernatorial races.

US SENATE – TENNESSEE (Emerson)
Phil Bredesen (D) 43%
Marsha Blackburn (R) 37%

GOVERNOR – TENNESSEE (Emerson)
Karl Dean (D) 39%
Diane Black (R) 35%

Karl Dean (D) 36%
Randy Boyd (R) 34%

This poll was done July 11-14 among 657 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 12:10 pm
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1,000 Responses to “Dems Lead US Senate/Gov races in TN”

  1. Paul says:

    ??????

  2. Phil says:

    Not buying these early polls out of Tennessee.

  3. jason says:

    Obama on Cuba:

    “We know that this moment fills Cubans — in Cuba and in the United States — with powerful emotions, recalling the countless ways in which Fidel Castro altered the course of individual lives, families, and of the Cuban nation,” Obama’s statement read.

    “History will record and judge the enormous impact of this singular figure on the people and world around him,” he added.

    Obama has worked to normalize relations with the formerly Soviet-allied island nation over the final two years of his presidency. He became the first sitting US president to visit Cuba, meeting with Raul Castro — Fidel’s brother and the country’s current leader — since Calvin Coolidge visited in 1928.

    Trump on Cuba:

    “Fidel Castro’s legacy is one of firing squads, theft, unimaginable suffering, poverty and the denial of fundamental human rights.”

  4. Paul says:

    The internet gasps at Trump’s ‘appeasement’ of Putin’s election interference: ‘This president is completely owned’

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/internet-gasps-trumps-appeasement-putins-election-interference-president-completely-owned/

  5. Tina says:

    The jebots are unhinged since her thighness was accused of money laundering.

  6. Paul says:

    Traitor Tina wants some more Pooty.

  7. Tina says:

    The jebots want to start a war with Russia.

    Funny that they demanded that he confront pooty poot over Ukraine, Crimea, etc., when those happened under the obumbler or mute 43s watch

    I guess they are done with the Me.

  8. Paul says:

    Trump and traitor Tina would rather believe our enemies than our own law enforcement agencies.

  9. Wes says:

    Emerson has generally had a Dem bias.

  10. Wes says:

    In contrast to other polls, Gravis says Nelson leads Scott 43-37 though this is down from Nelson’s previous lead in a Gravis poll.

    For some reason, starting in 2014, Gravis seemed to become Trump’s personal pollster and started showing all downballot Republicans faring worse than he.

  11. mnw says:

    New Gravis has Nelson up on Scott by about 4 points.

  12. Phil says:

    Brennan calls Trump’s news conference comments “treasonous”. This is the same Brennan who voted for a communist during a presidential election. This is rich.

  13. Wes says:

    Barletta is bringing on board his campaign manager from the successful 2010 race against Paul Kanjorski. At least Barletta is now taking the race seriously.

  14. jason says:

    I am sure we can find a Paul post where he talks about the “internet gasping” about Obama groveling to the Castros.

  15. jason says:

    Of course Paul knows Hillary lost the election not because of any “interference” or “collusion” but because 70% of Americans thought she was dishonest and untrustworthy.

    And while Paul wants to make current international relations all about “why Hillary lost” Trump and Putin are moving on with real issues that really matter.

  16. Tina says:

    suspect U.S. intelligence officials were involved in channeling $400 million from businessman Browder to Hillary Clinton election campaign

    Reuters

    This is why the jebots are unhinged.

  17. Phil says:

    Paul and Robbie were in on the same conference call…..along with Brennan and the usual cast of characters.

  18. Wes says:

    It’s Politico and AARP, both with a decided liberal agenda, so factor that in:

    https://www.politico.com/interactives/2018/the-deciders-arizona-poll/

    Even so, the AZGOP needs to seriously court the elderly population of the Grand Canyon State to hang on in November.

  19. Paul says:

    Philandering Phil: I’m pretty sure Brennan didn’t vote for a Communist.

  20. Wes says:

    Paul, I’m pretty sure Phil is loyal to his wife. Now Ted the Olympic Swimmer Kennedy on the other hand likely was not…

  21. phoenixrisen says:

    Wonderful opinion by Kevin Nicholson, GOP Senate candidate in Wisconsin. Part of the #WalkAway movement which famously started by Reagan decades ago before the advent of Twitter. Definitely going to send him a donation.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/07/16/im-running-for-senate-as-republican-my-democrat-parents-are-so-furious-theyre-backing-my-opponent.html

  22. Phil says:

    21 Well, that’s interesting because Brennan said so himself – 1976 was the year, BTW. What? That wasn’t mentioned in your meeting?

  23. Phil says:

    Paul has me mixed up with Peter Smirk.

  24. Paul says:

    Tina’s titillating tales twists truth torturously.

  25. Phil says:

    Paul has his own “tales of truth”. As in Brennan didn’t vote for a commie?

  26. Paul says:

    Phil: I’ll admit I was wrong. He did vote for a communist in 1976. I think we all did something like that. I voted for Lenora Fulani in the 1988 election.

  27. Paul says:

    She was the New Alliance Party so not quite as bad as Communist. I just didn’t like either Dukakis or Bush that year.

  28. jason says:

    Paul is a hypocrite and a brainwashed moron, incapable of trying to figure anything out beyond the MSM headlines.

  29. Phil says:

    If the left wants to accuse Trump of treason that’s their right. My point was that perhaps Brennan isn’t exactly the best messenger here.

  30. jason says:

    “I think we all did something like that.”

    I never voted for a communist.

    GFY.

  31. Tina says:

    Coreeeee, pass the bong.

    Did you find Justin Truedopes eyebrows?

  32. jason says:

    Paul has no problem with Obama failing to bring up political prisoners and persecution, murders, lack of basic freedoms, lack of a free press, etc. when he visited Cuba, but accepts the MSM meme that Trump should have made the summit about Hillary Clinton’s election loss.

    Hilarious.

  33. Wes says:

    I’ve never voted for a Communist, nor have I any plans to do so. I would have voted for Hillary though had JEB! been the GOP nominee in 2016.

  34. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag already checked in with the MSM talking points.

    Where is CG?

  35. Phil says:

    CG and Robbie will be along shortly.

  36. Phil says:

    ……and Pete Wilson is warming up in the bullpen.

  37. Wes says:

    Other than Bunu, I’ve never wanted Dave to ban anyone besides TIPW. He’s a sleazy poster who does nothing but drag down the site with his vile posts.

  38. Wes says:

    The DSCC is reserving $30 million in ads for IN, WV, ND, NT, NV, and AZ. However, it is reserving none for NO, FL, and TN.

    RRH made a point of the admissions.

    Make of that what you will.

  39. jason says:

    The gift that keeps on giving.

    Ocasio-Cortez: “I also think that what people are starting to see at least with the occupation of Palestine is the increasing crisis of humanitarian condition. And that to me is where I tend to come from on this issue.”

  40. Wes says:

    Dems will still win the Jewish vote overwhelmingly despite having a fruitcake such as Ocasio-Cortez running for Congress.

  41. Tina says:

    What happened to bubu?

  42. Phil says:

    No ads for Mo?

    Interesting. Florida also interesting. Tennessee doesn’t surprise me. The Democratic Formar Governor is largely self funding.

  43. Bitterlaw says:

    Good for Barletta. He will still lose to Casey.

  44. jason says:

    If I win the 390 million in the Mega Millions lottery I will spend some money denouncing Casey as a fraud.

    He will still win but it will be satisfying.

  45. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    GALLUP
    Jul 9-15
    TRUMP APPROVAL
    43%
    +2
    TRUMP DISAPPROVAL
    52%
    -4
    Updates Mondays at 1 p.m. ET; reflects one-week change

  46. Waingro says:

    #47, I have a feeling after today that Trump’s approvals are about to plummet. He has been maximizing his “Republican” support for months now.

  47. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #48 Waingro
    I agree. Why did The Donald even have a meeting with Putin if nothing concrete would result? Just about all his advisers told him not to.Perplexing!

  48. janz says:

    Today’s Trump/Putin press conference was predicted to be risky, and the point was proven by the media/dem slashing afterwards. I think Trump stepped into the media abyss today, and his presidency will unfortunately suffer negative repercussions.

    Sometimes this president thinks his instincts will serve to protect him from his own bluntness or political miscalculations. However, this time I think he should have pondered his words a little more carefully, made some stronger disapproval towards Putin for his election tinkering and not continued to embellish his own image by talking about the success of the 2016 election.

  49. dblaikie says:

    First a couple of words about the polls. Gallup is a poll with adults and should be ignored for the stupidity of putting a poll out there when only about 6 in 10 will even vote. What a joke. So is Emerson. Let me go out on limb right now and predict that Tennessee will have all sorts of polls showing a tight race with Blackburn in desperation. Blackburn will win easily. Mark it down.

    The usual scenario is playing out right now. Step one Trump has an international meeting. Step two, the media led by MSNBC, CNN and never Trumpers trash him, claim that he is unfit and we need to get rid of them. Step three at the end of day the media ends up looking like fools.

  50. Wes says:

    Maybe not this time, Db, since Trump seems to have given ammunition to his detractors.

  51. NYCmike says:

    Trump looked like he usually does in these situations, stupid.

    I’ll watch and see how Mattis, Pompeo, Bolton, Haley and the military leaders act, and how we deal with the countries in eastern Europe who may have to deal with this Putin thug in the future.

  52. Paul says:

    Wes: The fact that you consider that position to be fruitcake demonstrates that you are a certifiable loon.

  53. Wes says:

    Reading comprehension clearly isn’t your strong point, Paul. I called the Ocasio-Cortez a fruitcake. I said nothing about the position–though, yes, I do consider it certifiable to claim Israel is occupying Palestine when the Arabs have been trying to destroy that nation for years–even though Arabs and, by extension, Muslims control far more of the Middle East than Israel does.

  54. Wes says:

    Heh. The Ocasio-Cortez. That’s a holdover from when I typed “the person making the statement,” referring to Ocasio-Cortez. Apparently I failed to delete the initial article in that phrase.

  55. jason says:

    Btw, wes, when they followed up on the fruitcake answer the little Marxist moron admitted she dien’t know anything about the issue.

  56. Wes says:

    By the way, Paul, Ocasio-Cortez had this to say when pressed about her statement:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/16/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-israel-palestine/

    “I’m not the expert on geopolitics.”

    In other words, she had no idea what she was talking about.

  57. Wes says:

    “Yeah I think — I am not the expert on geopolitics on this issue.”

    I’m the certifiable loon according to Paul because I dared call out a freakshow of a candidate who admitted to having no clue what she was talking about.

  58. Wes says:

    I just saw this from Mnw on the previous thread:

    mnw says:
    July 14, 2018 at 11:15 pm
    And they are your go-to source for election night coverage in Borneo and Prince Edward Island.

    Pretty much. If you want to know which way the political winds are blowing in Mongolia, the Seychelles, and Liechtenstein, RRH is the place to go.

  59. lisab says:

    At least 21 U.S. newspapers ran identical letters to the editor opposing President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh this week
    Each letter was published with the name of a different ‘signer,’ claiming Kavanaugh threatens ‘everything that we hold dear as a nation’

  60. Tgca says:

    28 Paul

    “I think we all did something like that?“

    NO!!! Absolutely not! I have never voted for a known communist or socialist. It is one thing to have a conversation or discussion with them to advance areas we can work together on. But it is extremely naïve to vote for them and put them in power, as it goes against our democratic values.

  61. jason says:

    I will make it easy for Paul to understand.

    The little Marxist moron is a fruitcake and her position on Israel is a fruitcake position.

    Hope its clear now.

  62. Tgca says:

    I agree, that once again, Trump was not articulate in his press conference with Putin. But the basis for his remarks are sound. There is no way in the world Putin will admit to interference just as the US will never admit to interference in elections in the past. Countries just won’t say it. But the bottom line is that Trump policies to Russia have been more aggressive than Obama and that’s what counts at the end of the day. Recall, these attempted interferences occurred under Obama after he was briefed of Russia’s intent but he failed to take action so blaming Trump is just politics.

    I also agree we should move forward. Calling Putin a liar in a press conference and trying to embarrass him for the sake of grandstanding for Dems and MSM at home will not achieve anything in relations. Real relationship building requires biting your tongue and moving forward. This is where Clinton, Bush, Obama and useful idiots like McCain and company have consistently failed. Saying things to make you look good in the press does not move the needle on dealing with the issues. They failed! Let’s see if Trump can make some headway here.

    Trump should not have let his frustration with the baseless premise of the Mueller investigation get the best of him and his remarks showed bad timing, Now his lieutenants will need to go and spin and defend his silly words against his appropriate actions on Russia the last year, which is what really counts.

  63. lisab says:

    my feeling is that few who have not already made up their mind on trump will care or even notice the foreign trip and putin conference

    however, the thing is …

    the dems are NOT claiming hillary’s emails are fake, nor are they saying they were on a government server

    the emails were on an unsecure server and the thoughts expressed in the emails are completely unedited

    the dems f’d up … is trump supposed to go to war because hillary did something stupid?

  64. Tgca says:

    Jason

    See my post below from the previous thread. Can’t wait to have some man on man vegan time together.

    1367
    Ok. It looks like I will be relocating to the Philly area by Sep. I’m excited to be nearer to 2 of my closest friends, Bitter and Jason…and Mikey the kid too.

    I look forward to weekend vegan brunches with Jason and hanging in Philly cafes on Fri and Sat eves with Bitter sipping on green tea before joining him and Mikey in frolicking at the gayborhood establishments in Center City.

    Life is good!

  65. lisab says:

    the ukraine is beautiful btw for those who have never been there

  66. dblaikie says:

    Wes, I don’t deny that Trump gives them ammunition. But the ammo is always given in such a way that they end up shooting themselves. Their hatred is so deep, so pervasive, that they can’t help themselves (the media, dems, and anti Trumpers) they end up looking raging lunatics.

    I think most Americans are realizing that Russian meddling to the media and all their puppets means simply that Trump didn’t deserve to win. That is simple hogwash. So I don’t blame Trump for feeding them bloody red meat. Unlike a great white shark they end up eating themselves in their mindless hatred.

  67. Tgca says:

    The MSM and Libs will run wth this as proof of collusion and Trump being a puppet for the next week, calling him a traitor and advocating for impeachment for treason. Mueller will probably reference this in his report but will fail to report how the Russians also tried to hack the RNC who beefed up its security while the Dems failed to do so, basically inviting hacking. The rest of the populace will move on to more important issues for the nation.

    Then Trump will do or say something next week to get the Dems and MSM salivating and over-reacting.

  68. Tina says:

    Mule head just copied and pasted from the house report.

    However,Mulehead purposefully omitted the incidents by the Russians against republicans. Nunes committee prepared the report.

  69. lisab says:

    tgca,

    please tell your gay friends who live in the gym that it is ok if they parade around half naked … we are not offended …

    actually, since they are gay, there is no danger they will see straight women looking at them and come over and bother us …

    they can just look pretty

  70. DW says:

    New Jersey Senate – Gravis

    Bob Hugin 41
    Bob Menendez 43

  71. jason says:

    Ok. It looks like I will be relocating to the Philly area by Sep. I’m excited to be nearer to 2 of my closest friends, Bitter and Jason…and Mikey the kid too.

    I look forward to weekend vegan brunches with Jason and hanging in Philly cafes on Fri and Sat eves with Bitter sipping on green tea before joining him and Mikey in frolicking at the gayborhood establishments in Center City.

    Life is good!”

    Huh, I don’t live anywhere near the Philly area, actually Baltimore, DC and Walt in WV are closer than Philly.

    And there are no vegetarians in a 20 mile radius, at least none that are declared. The favorite meats in these parts are venison and bear.

    Gays? I will ask Amos Stoltzfuss if he knows any.

  72. jason says:

    Let’s face it.

    There is NOTHING Trump could have said at the presser that would have pleased the moonbats and their MSM lap dogs.

    Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

    Like I said, if Trump had announced he and Putin had achieved world peace, Amoral Scumbag would have been against it.

  73. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I agree what is being said; the leftist would have taken things out of context and attacked Trump regardless. They have been doing it continually since he became president. Trump is doing interviews later on Fox other news shows. He can clarify his positions.

    I totally agree with Trump that it is foolish for Russia and the U.S. to not have a dialogue

  74. DW says:

    New Dem internal poll of NC_09

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | RRH | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    WA_03 R | 151 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.3 —
    TX_31 R | 152 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    CA_22 R | 153 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.3 — 49/41 (PPP)
    NC_08 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    OH_07 R | 155 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    OH_10 R | 156 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    OH_15 R | 157 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    PA_14* D | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    NY_23 R | 159 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Ln R | 5 —
    CO_03 R | 160 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    SC_01 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    MO_02 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    CA_50 R | 163 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Ln R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5 — 48/43 (PPP)
    IN_02 R | 165 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5 —
    AZ_06 R | 166 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5 —
    AZ_08 R | 167 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5 —
    FL_15* R | 168 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5 —
    FL_06* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.6 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.6 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.6 —
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 4.6 —
    OH_14 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 4.6 —
    WI_06 R | 174 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.3 —
    FL_25 R | 175 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.3 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.3 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.3 —
    TX_21* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.3 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_18 R | 180 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    NY_24 R | 181 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    IL_13 R | 183 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 45/42 (PPP)
    IL_14 R | 184 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 45/41 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 186 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.6 —
    VA_05 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 3.6 —
    NY_01 R | 188 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.3 —
    NJ_03 R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | 3.3 — 48/44 (D-Int.) | 42/42 (GSG-D)
    AR_02 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.3 — 47/42 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 191 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 —
    OH_01 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 — 43/42 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 194 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 —
    NC_13 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.6 — 43/40 (PPP)
    WV_03* R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | 2.3 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    IA_03 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.3 — 44/43 (PPP) | 41/45 (D-Int.)
    VA_02 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.3 — 48/42 (PPP)
    MT_01 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | 2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    ME_02 R | 201 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 — 45/35
    MI_08 R | 202 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | 1.6 — 46/41 (PPP)
    TX_32 R | 203 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 —
    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 205 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 — 47/43 | 45/39 (Salt Lake Trib.)
    KS_03 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 —
    OH_12* R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.5 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics) | 48/43 (D-Int.)
    VA_07 R | 208 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.3 —
    KS_02* R | 209 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.3 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    WI_01* R | 210 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.3 —
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 —
    IL_06 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.1 — 45/44 (Garin-Hart-Yang-D)
    TX_07 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    CA_45 R | 214 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 1 — 43/46 (PPP)
    NC_09* R | 215 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 42/37 (PPP) | 36/43 (Civitas) | 43/44 (D-Int)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 41/42 (PPP) | 45/47 (GQR-D)
    PA_01 R | 217 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 49/42
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    IL_12 R | 218 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.6 — 44/39 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    NY_19 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.5 — 41/43 (PPP)
    TX_23 R | 215 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 44/43 (PPP)
    IA_01 R | 214 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.3 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    WA_08* R | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.3 — 51/45
    CA_10 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 49/42 (Srat. 360-D) | 45/40 (GSG-D)
    CA_48 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/44 (D-Internal)
    CO_06 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 —
    NY_22 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/40 (DCCC-D)
    PA_17 R | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.3 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 200 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.8 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    PA_07* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.8 —
    VA_10 R | 198 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.3 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.5 —
    CA_49* R | 196 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 — 41/44 (Feldman)
    NV_03* D | 195 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.3 —
    AZ_01 D | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.5 —
    NV_04* D | 191 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.6 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3 —
    MN_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3.3 —
    PA_08 D | 188 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.3 —
    NJ_05 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    PA_06* R | 186 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 185 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -4 —
    NJ_02* R | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.3 — 39/44 (PPP)
    PA_05* R | 183 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.6 —
    AZ_09* D | 182 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.6 —
    NH_02 D | 181 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.6 —
    CT_05* D | 180 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | -4.6 —
    FL_13 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5 —
    WI_03 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    CA_24 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    IA_02 D | 175 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.3 —
    NY_25 D | 174 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.3 —

    *indicates open seat

  75. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Wow! Have to confess sometimes after a few beers my recollection of what my sexual orientation is becomes hazy.

    2. Tim Tebow’s new girlfriend…

    https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2017/11/demi-leigh-nel-peters-photos-miss-south-africa-miss-universe-2017/

  76. Waingro says:

    Uh, oh.

    “You guys really need to read this indictment. Also, all RNC press staffers, report to your cubicles….Any guesses as to who Butina met with at the NRA conference in 2015?”

    https://twitter.com/gabrielmalor/status/1018935854260260864

  77. lisab says:

    Avery Edison
    ?
    Verified account

    @aedison
    Jul 12
    More
    Remember babes, there’s nothing moral about work, and you are have basic human rights to food, water, shelter, and health care (among other things) whether or not you work.

  78. jason says:

    The story suggests its Scott Walker.

    ZZzzz…..

    And of course, in 2015 nobody knew who would even win the nomination.

  79. Waingro says:

    #84, yeah, seeing that now. That of course is not gonna stop the MFM from running wild with this.

  80. Redmen4ever says:

    Morning Consult/AARP Poll:

    “Expected nominee Gov. Rick Scott has an insignificant, 1-point lead in what is likely to be the nation’s most expensive Senate race this year, against incumbent Democrat Bill Nelson.”

  81. Waingro says:

    #86, really need Scott to pull that one out.

  82. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    So are we all supposed to avoid interacting with anyone Russian now, because we could unwittingly be interacting with a Putin agent? Guess we should look under our beds at night as well.

    We now have our own version of a “red scare”.

  83. jason says:

    So the US is now whining to the WTO about the retaliatory tariffs other countries are imposing on the US due to the US tariffs.

    So what’s good for the goose is not good for the gander, I guess.

    “WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The United States launched five separate World Trade Organization dispute actions on Monday challenging retaliatory tariffs imposed by China, the European Union, Canada, Mexico and Turkey following U.S. duties on steel and aluminum.

    The retaliatory tariffs on up to a combined $28.5 billion worth of U.S. exports are illegal under WTO rules, U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer said in a statement.”

  84. Tina says:

    The gop e and the Drats were mute when the Russians hacked. This includes the Jebot losahs here.

    Remember obumbler said, cut it out.

  85. Tina says:

    Fuhrer Mulehead cannot comment on pooty pots offer to have interviews of those individuals indicted.

    The case has been turned over to the doj special department, which will not prosecute, given no dnc server analysis.

  86. Robbie says:

    If Obama had stood next to Putin and said, word for word, the things Trump said today, this forum, especially Jason fraud and Tinfoil, would be screaming for his impeachment.

    But because Trump, who won with a R after his name won, said it, it’s totally cool because the media’s been a bunch of meanies to Trump and this all a plot by muh deep state.

  87. Robbie says:

    I sure am glad NYCmike’s buddies pushed out Bob Corker so we could watch Marsha hee-haw Blackburn turn that race, at least for now, into a tossup. Why would we want to spend money on races like ND, WV, MO, or the others when we can spend precious dollars on what should be a gimmie.

  88. Robbie says:

    Trump’s performance today was clearly the lowest moment of his presidency (worse than Charlottesville) and it had nothing to do with the imaginary deep state or the silent coup.

  89. Robbie says:

    Nominating a Trump fever swamp resident like DeSantis over Putnam would be an amazing “own goal” in the party’s effort to maintain the Florida governorship.

  90. Robbie says:

    Apparently, Newton Leroy Gingrich didn’t get the memo that went out to HHR regulars that Trump’s statements were MAGArrific, or that the real problem is Obama.

    Newt Gingrich
    @newtgingrich

    President Trump must clarify his statements in Helsinki on our intelligence system and Putin. It is the most serious mistake of his presidency and must be corrected—-immediately.

  91. Robbie says:

    Again, the Republican Senate should do everything in their power to confirm Brett Kavanaugh by Labor Day lest some crazy Trump story or a report by Mueller come out and give Democrats the ammo they need to convince Collins and Murkowski to back off confirmation.

  92. Tina says:

    We need Hillary to do another Russian reset.

    And add some Russian money to the foundation to pay for Chelsea’s wedding.

  93. Tina says:

    The same intelligence system that wanted Hillary, right?

    The same intelligence system that failed over 9-11, the sheot show in Iraq, the Boston marathon, etc., right?

  94. Robbie says:

    Somewhere, the real conservatives are pumping their fists in the air celebrating the chance to lose a winnable race with Chemtrail Kelli.

    Kevin Robillard
    @Robillard

    .@kelliwardaz throws the kitchen sink at Martha McSally in her first #AZSen radio ad, calls her a “fake Republican.”

  95. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 16, 2018 at 6:29 pm
    The same intelligence system that wanted Hillary, right?
    The same intelligence system that failed over 9-11, the sheot show in Iraq, the Boston marathon, etc., right?

    – The only good intelligence is the intelligence that helps Trump. We all know that.

  96. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not like Trump trashing our intelligence agencies to a KGB thug like Putin. I do not believe that Trump or his campaign colluded with Russia. Both can be true.

    Instead of the talk of friendship, I wish that Trump and Putin had issued a joint statement: “We have decided to not destroy each other’s nation. For now.”

  97. Bitterlaw says:

    I hope that Tina and I can at least agree that Putin is a KGB thug and stone cold killer.

  98. Tina says:

    The same intelligence system that stated Iraq had wmds under Hussein,

    Where are they? Syria?

  99. Tina says:

    I call him pooty poot.

    The transcript does not show trump blasting our intelligence agencies, bl.

    He stated that the agencies indicate, but pooty poot denies it,

    That is a matter of fact statement,

  100. Tina says:

    Drat rep, Steve Cohen, calls for a military coup.

    Arrest him now.

  101. Tina says:

    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    @NolteNC
    Swamp and its media are only mad cuz, just like his superb comments on Charlottesville, he didn’t say what theyre bullying him to say.

    Trump was right to call out both sides in Charlottesville and he is right not to trust the same IC that got us into Iraq and tried to frame him
    2:26 PM · Jul 16, 2018

  102. phoenixrisen says:

    Really funny watching the MSM, Democrats, and GOP sqishes squeal like stuck pigs over the Helsinki summitt

  103. lisab says:

    tina,

    supposedly lisa page is singing like a canary

    i guess she no longet likes he ex-bf

    hell hath no fury like an fbi employee scorned

  104. Tina says:

    Yes, she is singing.

    She already got Pete the cheat, and Hillarys personal cop, McCabe.

    I said it is going to obumbler about a year ago.

  105. Tina says:

    is fib an intelligence agency?

    So, can we include theme when stating that th y missed the Russians hacking the election?

    And why they never obtained the dnc server?

    We know why, but why?

  106. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    People need to watch the full news conference to understand what was said. I like that Trump is talking to Putin. One of the most interesting parts was Putin discussing the Nord Stream pipeline, which Trump strongly opposes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwxqOoIyWm0&t=11s

    It needs to be remembered that Putin humiliated Obama repeatedly in the Ukraine, Syria and with Iran. In the press conference Putin made a defense of the Iranian pact which Trump repudiated. Putin realized that Obama had no backbone, and took advantage of the situation. Obama and the Democrats responded as they are doing now; taunting and calling Putin names.

  107. jason says:

    The truth:

    “The liberals losing it over Trump’s prostration before Putin are the same ones who high-fived when Barack Obama mocked Romney for warning about the threat from Russia.”

  108. Tina says:

    What did the jebots want trump to do?

    He out in sanctions already,l

    Russia’s actions happened three plus years ago, and in some cases during the end of mute 43 and the first year of obumbler.

    The same gope were also mute.

  109. jason says:

    I don’t have a problem with Trump trashing the “intelligence community” that was partisan and trying to get Hillary elected.

    Obviously you can’t completely generalize, but he does have a right to be outraged at some of the testimony we have seen.

    He needs to keep naming names and not throw out the baby with the bathwater.

  110. jason says:

    It needs to be remembered that Putin humiliated Obama repeatedly in the Ukraine, Syria and with Iran”

    Exactly.

    And all those are much more substantive issues than all the hand wringing about Hillary losing the election.

  111. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    68. “however, the thing is …
    the dems are NOT claiming hillary’s emails are fake, nor are they saying they were on a government server
    the emails were on an unsecure server and the thoughts expressed in the emails are completely unedited
    the dems f’d up … is trump supposed to go to war because hillary did something stupid?”

    Totally agree with Liz; a skilled 15 year old could have hacked Hillary’s server and published the contents. All the contents were true — the electorate got a feel for what Hillary was really like. As Rand Paul has pointed out, the U.S. does the same thing. Angela Merkel was really angry when she found that Obama had taped into her cell phone.

    If Mueller was to write a correct report, it would say something to the effect that about 15 countries secretly conduct espionage, collect data, and interfere in U.S. affairs to serve their own interests, and the U.S. does the same thing in all 15 of these nations.

  112. Tina says:

    The same intelligence agency that the obumbler used to obtain information on a presidential candidate and then gave it to obumbler a secret police, the fib.

  113. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Rand Paul: “I think having open lines of communication is very important for avoiding war.”

    Silly thought, Obama had it right. Just run up the white flag and run away.

  114. lisab says:

    Even though election night will be painful, I’ll be here to say I told you so. — Robbie

  115. hellbelly says:

    …..anyone who thinks Putin is anything other than a life-long enemy of America is delusional. Trump just kissed his posterior in public, throwing his own guys (like Coates) under the bus while doing it. He sucked up to a thug. A KGB guy. And supposed conservatives are trying to rationalize it. I’ve never been embarrassed to be a Republican in my life.

    Until today.

  116. Diamond Jim says:

    Damn. A “hellbelly” sighting. Where’s Bitterlaw?

  117. Tina says:

    The us person mentioned in the butina indictment may be comrade Brennan.

  118. NYCmike says:

    hellbelly,

    Trump is being himself. He is more worried about the collusion story affecting his standing with voters, and how people regard him. I do not expect him to act like Reagan, Romney, or anyone else when he gets up there. Personally, I think it was stupid to have a summit without there being definite goals to accomplish.

    That said, as I stated earlier, the more important thing would be to watch how Mattis, Pompeo, Bolton, Haley and the military work with our allies in eastern Europe and Asia, to combat the growing menaces of Putin/Russia and China.

  119. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/spengler/once-again-president-trump-is-magnificently-right-this-time-about-russia/

    -Different take.

    The world is definitely an interesting place, as you can’t just rely on the Cold War sides we grew up on.

    Interesting that just last night, I was listening to a person, who has a lot of contacts in the military (former SEAL himself), speak warily about Turkey and Erdogan, and the trouble they may cause in the near future.

  120. NYCmike says:

    Good comment from that article:

    “If Democrats had been this anti-Soviet back in the ’60s, Jimmy Carter would have won the Cold War.”

  121. lisab says:

    i think that trump is not ever going to publically spit in putin’s or jinping’s face, because he has to deal with them.

    as an example, if you remember when he was going through his issues with merv griffin … they were fighting over the atlantic city casinos and both eventually went bankrupt over them …

    trump eventually called for a meeting with merv and said (to parfaphrase), “look you have $500/hr lawyers, i have $500/hr lawyers too, so lets stop fighting and make a deal”

    which they did and both survived after chapter 11.

    i think he wants the same thing with china and russia, that is, to stop the bs antagonism and make a deal everyone can live with peacefully

    now whether he can get the deal is a different story, but i think that is what he wants

  122. jason says:

    Trump just kissed his posterior in public, throwing his own guys (like Coates) under the bus while doing it. He sucked up to a thug. A KGB guy.”

    Hellbelly has been reading too much MSM hype.

    This is a gross exaggeration of what happened.

  123. lisab says:

    how would that go if trump did raise hell?

    trump: you hacked the usa election!

    option a: putin: no i did not.

    option b: putin: yes, i did.

    either way trump has no effective reply
    ——————————-

    and it is also bad from putin’s standpoint

    any reply he gives, either a or b, leads to worse relations with the usa

  124. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Henry Kissinger proposed an excellent solution to the Ukraine/Crimea crisis back in 2014. Sadly, it was never acted upon.

    “Public discussion on Ukraine is all about confrontation. But do we know where we are going? In my life, I have seen four wars begun with great enthusiasm and public support, all of which we did not know how to end and from three of which we withdrew unilaterally. The test of policy is how it ends, not how it begins.
    Far too often the Ukrainian issue is posed as a showdown: whether Ukraine joins the East or the West. But if Ukraine is to survive and thrive, it must not be either side’s outpost against the other — it should function as a bridge between them.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/henry-kissinger-to-settle-the-ukraine-crisis-start-at-the-end/2014/03/05/46dad868-a496-11e3-8466-d34c451760b9_story.html?utm_term=.487863a3e2dd

    It would be nice if Trump could do what Kissinger recommended, but he may be too much of a wild man to accomplish it in this hyper-partisan atmosphere.

    Given that Russia and the U.S. are the major nuclear powers in the world, it is in the best interest of both countries that the rhetoric be toned down (Trump’s included). Calling Putin everything under the sun as a means to attack Trump accomplishes nothing good. I agree with Trump, the West bears some of the blame for the crisis that began with mishandling of the crisis in the Ukraine. Find it ironic that Germany is critical of Trump now, yet wants to build a pipeline to Russia that will make them dependent on Russian gas.

  125. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Damn. A “hellbelly” sighting.

    Sounds like another Bogo Pogo resident.

  126. Bitterlaw says:

    I missed Mr. Hellbelly!? Damn. At least some people remember that Putin is a KGB thug and enemy of the US.

  127. Tina says:

    Yes, a mad man and a thug.

    Coddled by mute 43

    Really coddled by obumbler.

    And what do we do about him?

    Seems like the real cons want something, but what?

    A shooting war? Why were these same folks quiet during the last decade?

  128. Tina says:

    And why was it ok for mute 43 and obumbler 44 to meet with the obumbler?

    I seem to recall that pooty poot was driven around a tx ranch and the obumbler mentioned having greater flexibility after his last election.

    Has anybody read the full transcript or seen the entire presser?

  129. Tina says:

    John Cardillo
    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    ·
    1h
    The NeverTrump histrionics are pathetic.

    Remember, these “conservatives” would have preferred Hillary be nominating SCOTUS justices.

    And largely wrong on all important foreign policy matters for over a decade,

  130. Cash Cow TM says:

    Dee where they arrested that Russian girl who just graduated at some U.S. college as a SPY!

    Say…wasn’t our college student Michael from Russia?

    dun dun DUN!

  131. Tina says:

    I guess muh press conference with pooty poot replaced muh Kavanaugh, which replaced muh kids separated.

    I wonder what the muh will be next week?

  132. Paul says:

    I am a little surprised that Trump didn’t bring up Seth Rich in today’s presser.

  133. DW says:

    RRH is eeyoring over the fact that only the Dem candidates have been releasing internal polls of house races and the GOP hasn’t been. They think its bad news. They miss the point that by and large the dem internal polls released haven’t been that good for the dem candidate.

    We all know how it works…they poll relentlessly, and the numbers bounce up and down as polling always does…then when they happen to get a really good internal, that’s the one they release as a stand-alone poll.

    Sometimes they release the questions asked, and reveal that it was a push poll.

    But all this seems to be beyond those at RRH. These D-Internals, and there have been a lot of them, are not showing any sort of blow-out wins in the contested races. Look at the Dashboard I posted above at post 80.

  134. DW says:

    OK, I confess.

    On the way to the polls in 2016 I had not decided who I was going to vote for in the POTUS race. My original story was that at the last minute I decided to vote for Pence, and so I covered Trump’s name on the ballot when I voted for Pence. But that was just my original story.

    What really happened: I got out of my car and as I approached the school gymnasium three men in black suits jumped out of a black SUV and I couldn’t understand what they were saying but I heard ‘nyet’ a couple times and their language sounded like Russian. They shoved me along behind the building, pulled out assault rifles and one of them warned me in broken English that they could see into the building and could see what I marked on the ballot, and if it wasn’t Trump, I would be getting the hot end of one of the rifles on the way back to my car.

    So after I voted, I looked back in that direction and saw what looked like a black Russian helicopter taking off. I cannot prove whether or not Elvis and Bigfoot were involved as accomplices.

  135. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    CALIFORNIA CD48 POLL: US House election
    All potential voters:
    @HarleyRouda (D) 46
    @DanaRohrabacher (R) 43

    Likely voters:
    Standard model – Rouda 47 / Rohrabacher 45
    Dem-surge model – Rouda 48 / Rohrabacher 44

    #CD48 #Midterms2018
    Monmouth University Poll

  136. DW says:

    143 – not a bad result, given Monmouth’s left lean.

  137. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #144
    The correct # is 47/45 in the CA CD-48 Poll.

    Also, with respect to RRH, some of the CSPAN(“I used to be a Republican”) posters there want to go to war with Putin. One in particular, Indy—, has really been slapped down. I hope we see a post soon at RRH from Strawdog.

  138. DW says:

    The fact they do a “Dem Surge Model” is basically them saying they are biased and they believe they know what is going to happen. That colors everything that they do.

  139. JC says:

    Paul says:
    July 17, 2018 at 12:18 am
    I am a little surprised that Trump didn’t bring up Seth Rich in today’s presser.
    ——————

    I know right?

    I would like to know who murdered Seth Rich so we can bring this killer to justice. Don’t you?

    The fact that he was the man who Wikileaks claims leaked all of the DNC server info (which would mean there was no Russian ‘hack’) and then he was killed a few days later in highly bizarre circumstances notwithstanding. The case was ruled a botched robbery and closed within 48 hours – which is weird, because how would detectives know that? – and no personal things were taken from the body.

    But of course, circumstances are NOT evidence. This may indeed just be a tragic case of a botched robbery.

    That’s why I think the investigation should be reopened so we can find the killer. Don’t you?

    Or do you have a genuine fear of what the answers might reveal?

  140. DW says:

    Sometimes RRH posters hit the nail on the head:

    Izengabe
    July 17, 2018 at 9:00 am
    If AOC was smart she would have kept her mouth shut after the primary and gone to work for her district. Instead she’s a suburban Millennial raised on social media who couldnt resist the siren call of her new found fame. So she’s running around to every camera she can find spewing nonsense on topics she has no idea about. This sadly is probably the future of American politics as the Boomers die off and the Gen Xers get passed over for the fame seeking know it all Millennials.

  141. George says:

    Trump and Putin have a press conference.
    Media: One of the most horrific events in modern U.S. history.

    Obama gives billions to terrorist regime in Iran.
    Media: Crickets

  142. Phil says:

    151

    exactly

  143. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez: “I also think that what people are starting to see at least with the occupation of Palestine is the increasing crisis of humanitarian condition. And that to me is where I tend to come from on this issue.”

    Take these words, and scramble them randomly, and the resulting sentence makes about as much sense as the original:

    “is see with and the of that I are tend is from starting also occupation that issue the condition crisis to increasing think at I to me what on humanitarian of Palestine come where to this least people.”

  144. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez reminds me of Ted Kennedy on the campaign trail: “And we will start on the 1996 campaign…to re-elect Bill Clinton and to re-elect him uhm bu cumbumbum…”

    At least Kennedy probably had the frequent excuse of hitting the bottle, but Ocasio-Cortez seemed sober.

  145. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Trump rises a tick to 46% approval in today’s Rasmussen(less) Daily Tracking Poll(46/53).

  146. Wes says:

    Ocasio-Cortez is a liberal millennial obsessed with her own celebrity. Too bad she’s not running in a district Republicans can actually win.

  147. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #151 and #152
    I agree with both of you. How about the sale of 20% of our uranium to the CCCP by Obama(the Uranium One Scandal)?

  148. Wes says:

    Charlotte is pursuing a bid to host the Donald’s renomination convention in 2020.

  149. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez strikes me as the type who still has all her youth soccer participation trophies on her dresser, and she carefully dusts them every week.

  150. Phil says:

    Trump is a Russian agent BS absolute over the top. That said, dumb and stupid is the way I would characterize Trump’s statements yesterday. Played right into the hands of Democrats and never Trumpers. Look for his Ras numbers to drop four or so points over the next week. When you do something stupid in politics you pay the price.

  151. jason says:

    Reasons not to be executed, you had 14 beers and cocaine. Oh, and you are black.

    This guy also claimed he shot the store owner in the hand but that the “shot careened into his chest”.

    “HUNTSVILLE, Texas – A Texas death row inmate was set for execution Tuesday evening as lawyers argued in the courts that the state parole board improperly refused his clemency request because he’s black.

    Christopher Young was condemned for fatally shooting a San Antonio convenience store owner during an attempted robbery nearly 14 years ago. Young, 34, has never denied the slaying, which was recorded on a store surveillance camera, but insisted he was drunk and didn’t intend to kill 53-year-old Hasmukh “Hash” Patel after drinking nearly two dozen beers and then doing cocaine that Sunday morning in November 2004.

    According to court documents, Young sexually assaulted a woman in her apartment with her three young children present, then forced her to drive off with him in her car. She managed to escape, and records show he drove one block to the Mini Food Mart where owner Patel was shot during an attempted robbery. He was arrested 90 minutes later after picking up a prostitute and driving to a crack house where the stolen car was parked outside and spotted by San Antonio police.”

  152. Robbie says:

    If Nikki Haley has designs on a future political career, possibly the presidency, she should consider resigning from Trump’s cabinet (on principle, others should as well). If she needs a reason why that would be wise, look at what’s happened to Paul Ryan.

    Two years ago, people attempted to get Paul Ryan to challenge Trump at the convention and many suggested he would be a logical nominee in 2020 if Trump lost. Now, he’s not even running for re-election to the House. His close association with Trump and his inability to effectively critique Trump at Trump’s worst moments has left Ryan as little more than political roadkill.

    Whenever the Trump presidency ends (tomorrow, 2021, or 2025), the party will need a clean break from him. By resigning on principle, Haley can establish herself as a potential future leader. Heck, resigning now might just give her a great case to make in 2020 if the Trump presidency collapses.

  153. DW says:

    “According to court documents, Young sexually assaulted a woman in her apartment with her three young children present, then forced her to drive off with him in her car.”

    Stop right there. That’s good enough for the death penalty right there in my book. Killing the shop owner only adds to the need to execute quickly.

  154. Wes says:

    LisaB will be here soon to inveigh against executing the murderer–while being curiously silent like almost all death penalty opponents on the right of the victim to live.

  155. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 17, 2018 at 10:49 am
    Trump is a Russian agent BS absolute over the top. That said, dumb and stupid is the way I would characterize Trump’s statements yesterday. Played right into the hands of Democrats and never Trumpers. Look for his Ras numbers to drop four or so points over the next week. When you do something stupid in politics you pay the price.

    – This is right on the mark.

    There was plenty of hyperbole uttered yesterday, but Trump lost even some of his most devoted supporters on his comments. Fox and Friends, Maria Bartiromo, Trish Regan, Newt, the Mooch, Tom Cotton, and many others chided Trump. Trump did have Rand Paul defending him, though.

    Trump’s comments were clearly a very low moment for him and the presidency.

  156. jason says:

    LOL, Amoral Scumbag wants Haley to resign so he can run the same sordid attacks on her when she runs for something that he runs on anybody not named Jeb Bush.

  157. jason says:

    I am a capitalist to my bones,” Sen. Warren tells New England Council,”

    Isn’t she an American Indian to the bones too?

  158. jason says:

    I doubt Haley resigns, because unlike Amoral Scumbag she doesn’t have the moral fiber of a maggot.

  159. Robbie says:

    For the first time, I do think the Senate is in danger of turning over. I’m not making that prediction yet, but the polling is what the polling is. I would be surprised if Marsha Blackburn ultimately lost, but poll after poll shows her losing. At some point, we have to accept it just as we had to accept that Trump leading in primary poll after primary poll in late 2015 suggested he was going to be the winner.

    At this point, Republicans are in real danger of losing AZ and NV. Heller is a very good candidate, but the state is leaning left and Trump remains unpopular there. As for AZ, I think there’s a good chance chemtrail Kelli Ward could win the primary. The Mercer’s just gave her another $500,000. And if Arpaio’s vote share collapses as election day approaches, it’s far more likely it goes to Ward than McSally.

    If Republicans do lose AZ, NV, and TN, that puts them at 48 Senate seats. They would need to win two to get a tie and have Pence break all vote ties. If they get three pickups, they would be at status quo with today’s makeup. But when I look at the polls, it’s hard to see three guaranteed pickups at this point.

    I’m totally open to the idea that there is a hidden vote out there that will save these seats just as was the case in 2016. In fact, I could easily see Republicans holding on to AZ, NV, and TN while picking up ND, MO, IN, WV, MT, and even FL. But how likely is that rosy scenario when it looks like Republicans could easily lose 40 or more seats in the House?

  160. jason says:

    I have to agree with Rand Paul, 99% of what was said about Trump’s comments was over the top garbage, and I am sorry some Trump supporters had to pay lip service to it.

    I will take 20 showers for saying it, but I agree for different reasons than him.

    He is upset because he actually DOES want to appease the Russians

  161. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 17, 2018 at 11:30 am
    LOL, Amoral Scumbag wants Haley to resign so he can run the same sordid attacks on her when she runs for something that he runs on anybody not named Jeb Bush.

    – Blow me you worthless sack of crap.

    Were you cheering on Putin yesterday as Trump embarrassed himself, the presidency, and the nation with that performance?

    I know you would have screamed bloody murder and demanded impeachment if Obama had done the same, but I am asking for consistency from you and I know that’s a foreign concept in the era of Trump.

  162. Wes says:

    Robbie, McSally’s been outspending Ward by a wide margin while Arpaio is splitting the latter’s vote. McSally herself is no guarantee to win the election, but she’s a far better candidate than Ward or Arpaio, both of whom she leads in fundraising and polling.

    As far as Heller, his opponent appears to be a combination of Patrick Murphy and his previous opponent, Shelley Berkley. Heller can definitely lose, but the fact that the Dems didn’t vet his opponent properly gives him a solid chance at reelection.

  163. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 17, 2018 at 11:33 am
    I doubt Haley resigns, because unlike Amoral Scumbag she doesn’t have the moral fiber of a maggot.

    – So you’re saying people with moral fiber should stay in an administration lead by a president that behaved the way he did with Putin yesterday, comrade?

  164. NYCmike says:

    “– Blow me you worthless sack of crap.”

    -I asked this yesterday, but did not get an answer, and I really want to know.

    WHICH GOSPEL IS THIS IN?

  165. NYCmike says:

    I think Robbie has some French lineage in him.

    I never saw a person surrender so quickly.

  166. Wes says:

    Typically of them RRH eeyores Blackburn while a native Tennesseean provides a reason for why Blackburn hasn’t delivered a killing blow to Bredesen yet:

    TENNESSEEMIKE
    July 17, 2018 at 11:34 am
    “The general consensus on the race is that Blackburn will take the lead eventually once she can start nationalizing the race in blood-red Tennessee, but we’re only 4 months to election day . . . so shouldn’t that be happening by now?”
    If you lived in Tennessee you would have some idea why it hasn’t happen yet. The airwaves are already filled to the max with political ads for the Governor’s race. Mostly for the GOP primary. I have watched one hour of local news and saw at least a dozen ads. It’s worst than it was in the 2016 presidential race. I have never seen so many ads clog up the airwaves in so short a time. Much of this time will be freed up after the August 2nd state primary election (no, Tennessee’s primary hasn’t happen yet). The Blackburn campaign has apparently decided not to fully launch their general election campaign until after the state primary. And with all the ads out there already I’d say that’s a smart move.

    TN-2 District. A Social and Fiscal Conservative Republican

  167. Wes says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 17, 2018 at 11:40 am
    I think Robbie has some French lineage in him.

    I never saw a person surrender so quickly.

    Except GWB to the media immediately after reelection.

  168. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 17, 2018 at 11:37 am
    Robbie, McSally’s been outspending Ward by a wide margin while Arpaio is splitting the latter’s vote. McSally herself is no guarantee to win the election, but she’s a far better candidate than Ward or Arpaio, both of whom she leads in fundraising and polling.
    As far as Heller, his opponent appears to be a combination of Patrick Murphy and his previous opponent, Shelley Berkley. Heller can definitely lose, but the fact that the Dems didn’t vet his opponent properly gives him a solid chance at reelection.

    – There’s no doubt McSally is infinitely better than Ward, but you can’t discount the desire of the base to “send a message”. Regardless, the stars are aligning against the Republican party in 2018. In recent years, almost all of the close races have tilted in the direction of one party. And considering it’s a midterm year with an unpopular incumbent, I think the worse case scenario has to be on the table. In 2014, Mark Warner had to hang on for dear life on election night when few if any polls showed Gillispie within striking distance.

    I think McSally can win, but the national mood is as against Republicans as it was in 2006 and 2008.

  169. NYCmike says:

    The more Robbie eeyores, the more I feel relaxed about November.

    NOBODY is paying attention to the every-day-goings-on that we hyperventilate about.

    I do think the tariff situation needs to be rectified. That may affect the economy, but I am not sure if that will happen before election day.

  170. NYCmike says:

    “Except GWB to the media immediately after reelection.”

    -Got me there.

  171. Wes says:

    You based your analysis on the idea that Ward would win the primary. All evidence indicates Ward is in no position to do that.

  172. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Do you seek confession from your parish priest with that mouth of yours?

  173. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 17, 2018 at 11:39 am
    “– Blow me you worthless sack of crap.”
    -I asked this yesterday, but did not get an answer, and I really want to know.
    WHICH GOSPEL IS THIS IN?

    – It’s in the gospel of “this is the way Jason fraud wants to play the game, so this is how I’m going to play it with him”.

    Go back through the archives. This forum didn’t devolve into constant name calling until Jason fraud and Howard Dean starting taking cheap shots at anyone who didn’t think McCain was doing well in 2008.

  174. NYCmike says:

    Trump walked in front of the Queen, dontcha know?!?!

  175. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 17, 2018 at 11:44 am
    You based your analysis on the idea that Ward would win the primary. All evidence indicates Ward is in no position to do that.

    – I based my evidence on the national mood. Polling, which will change if McSally wins the nomination, shows her losing.

    But if Ward does win, write that seat off. Couple that with NV and TN and you have a 2006 scenario where Democrats split the gap when no one really though it possible.

  176. Wes says:

    Ah, Howard Dean. My perennial pick for dumbs hit of the year. He told me Obama would top out at 39% of the vote in 2008. (He was only off by 14%.) He then told me Obama was a guaranteed loser and even bet me $1000 (to charity of course) Mitt Romney would carry this state in a landslide. (Romney won by the 2% I predicted.)

    Howie also said Republicans needed to fail to contest Senate races in states carried by Dem presidential candidates. He then accused me of hiding from him after we made our bet because I took most of 2012 off. (I might have had something else on my mind besides you and this blog that year, Howie.)

    On the other hand, I’m sure Howie had a remarkable singing voice.

  177. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 17, 2018 at 11:43 am
    The more Robbie eeyores, the more I feel relaxed about November.
    NOBODY is paying attention to the every-day-goings-on that we hyperventilate about.

    – And this is why you get most things wrong.

    Look at the polls. They’re flashing bright red that Republicans are in big danger of a wipeout. The generic ballot is around a 7 point spread, Trump’s approval rating is in the low 40’s, and Democrats are “overpolling” in places like TN.

    People are clearly paying attention.

  178. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 17, 2018 at 11:44 am
    Robbie,
    Do you seek confession from your parish priest with that mouth of yours?

    – Every god d@mn month.

  179. Wes says:

    Polling has McSally losing. (It does, to be fair.) Treat that as gospel.

    Polling shows Ward trailing McSally in the primary. Run for the hills as if Ward is the inevitable nominee.

    Interesting dichotomy you have going there, Robbie.

  180. NYCmike says:

    “Go back through the archives. This forum didn’t devolve into constant name calling until Jason fraud and Howard Dean starting taking cheap shots at anyone who didn’t think McCain was doing well in 2008.”

    Robbie,

    Every time jason, or MD, or anyone else, goes to name-calling, that is a CLEAR SIGN there argument s*cks!

    And that is the exact reason why the name-calling never bothers me, other than that it lowers the value of this site as an educational forum.

  181. jason says:

    I know you would have screamed bloody murder and demanded impeachment if Obama had done the same,”

    Actually, Amoral Scumbag, he did do a lot worse on issues that were a lot more substantive than election “collusion” .

    Where were you?

    Show me the posts where you were outraged Obama and the US were humiliated by the Russians.

    Where were you when Obama told Romney in the debate that the “cold war was over”?

    GFY.

  182. NYCmike says:

    “– And this is why you get most things wrong.”

    -Hmmmm, kind of like 2016 redux, Robbie?

    How many Electoral College votes did you predict for Trump?

    And how many Senate seats did you predict for Republicans?

    And how many House seats did you predict for Republicans?

  183. Robbie says:

    Whether some Trump supporters want to hear it, this major screwup by Trump with Putin gives vulnerable Republicans an excellent opportunity to create some space with Trump. And more than likely, suburban Republicans will need it.

    In 2006, Republicans hued closely to GWB, but clumsily tried to separate themselves from him in the last few weeks of the campaign. I can distinctly remember Anne Northup, my Congresswoman at the time, suddenly calling for Rumsfeld to be fired with about 10 days to go.

    Northup tried to ride the GWB coattails as long as she could, but when GWB’s unpopularity became too much, she veered in the other direction with Rumsfeld. It was a clear sign she was losing and she did lose.

    The difference between 2006 and now, though, is Republicans still have more than three months to steer away from Trump if that suits their district’s needs. Northup and others tried to do this in 2006 with just days to go.

  184. jason says:

    So you’re saying people with moral fiber should stay in an administration lead by a president that behaved the way he did with Putin yesterday, comrade?”

    Absolutely. I think these people are not completely devoid of any kind of moral compass like you are, they actually have a sense of honor and commitment to their jobs and country, so they are not going to be swayed by the whining of a corrupt and dishonest MSM.

    But since you are an amoral scumbag, you would never understand that.

  185. Wes says:

    Some Republicans stuck with GWB in 2006, Robbie. See Mark Kennedy and Rick Santorum. They were the recipients of haymakers.

  186. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 17, 2018 at 11:50 am
    Polling has McSally losing. (It does, to be fair.) Treat that as gospel.
    Polling shows Ward trailing McSally in the primary. Run for the hills as if Ward is the inevitable nominee.
    Interesting dichotomy you have going there, Robbie.

    – I think any polling “expert” would note that primary polling is much more difficult to model than general election polling. The point remains, though. The national mood has made AZ a good pickup opportunity for Democrats, and, if Ward pulls off a COD style surprise, it’s off the table.

    I’d like to think Trump will intervene as he did in WV, but Ward has been a somewhat frequent visitor to Mar-a-lago and erstwhile supporter of Trump.

  187. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    I don’t see 2018 as anything close to 2006.

    We shall see who is wrong in 3-3/4 months.

    Hopefully, your daily hyperventilation’s can be kept under control.

  188. jason says:

    The difference between 2006 and now, though, is Republicans still have more than three months to steer away from Trump if that suits their district’s needs.”

    “Steering away from Trump” is not going to help ANY Republican win any election in November. The districts/races where that may be a good idea are not winnable anyway. None of the “swing” races are going to be won by adopting the MSM narrative.

    You read it here first.

    They are going to have to sink or swim with Trump.

  189. NYCmike says:

    CC

  190. NYCmike says:

    jason has finally started to heed my advice…….GOOD.

    ALL is proceeding as planned.

  191. jason says:

    wes, you can bet if Amoral Scumbag lived in AZ he would be campaigning for Ward and would vote for her.

    That is why he is shilling for her here everyday.

  192. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 17, 2018 at 11:53 am
    I know you would have screamed bloody murder and demanded impeachment if Obama had done the same,”
    Actually, Amoral Scumbag, he did do a lot worse on issues that were a lot more substantive than election “collusion” .
    Where were you?
    Show me the posts where you were outraged Obama and the US were humiliated by the Russians.
    Where were you when Obama told Romney in the debate that the “cold war was over”?
    GFY.

    – I’ve told you repeatedly, I don’t care what Democrats do. I’ve always believed if Republicans get the candidates and the politics correct, they win.

    But by all means, play your “what about” game. The public doesn’t care about that nonsense, but it’s all the Trumpers have these days. The fact is Obama is not president. Trump is.

    At least you and Rand Paul are on the same side now.

  193. Wes says:

    Robbie, that O’Donnell would win the primary was not entirely a surprise. The Tea Party mobilized around her in early September, and the last few public polls showed her ahead.

    Ward has had no such occurrence buoying er–especially since Arpaio is splitting her vote.

  194. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 17, 2018 at 11:58 am
    Some Republicans stuck with GWB in 2006, Robbie. See Mark Kennedy and Rick Santorum. They were the recipients of haymakers.

    – Yes, I know. Northup lost by just a few points though.

    Had she read the national mood better and earlier, she might have won. Water over the bridge in her case, but it could save some seats this year.

  195. jason says:

    jason has finally started to heed my advice…”

    Yes, I ordered the corned beef sandwich at Katz’s.

    Excellent.

  196. NYCmike says:

    Nicely done, jason.

    Of course, I see you didn’t share it, you b*st*rd!

  197. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 17, 2018 at 12:01 pm
    The difference between 2006 and now, though, is Republicans still have more than three months to steer away from Trump if that suits their district’s needs.”
    “Steering away from Trump” is not going to help ANY Republican win any election in November. The districts/races where that may be a good idea are not winnable anyway. None of the “swing” races are going to be won by adopting the MSM narrative.

    – Karen Handel almost completely avoided Trump in her special election win. In fact, her team asked Trump to stay out of the race. She won.

    Handel’s district is just the kind Republicans need to keep the majority. Lashing themselves to an unpopular president won’t work in suburbia.

  198. jason says:

    I’ve told you repeatedly, I don’t care what Democrats do.”

    Yes, we know, you have a double standard for everything as most amoral scumbags do.

    That is why you have zero credibility and nobody here believes a word you say.

  199. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 17, 2018 at 12:03 pm
    wes, you can bet if Amoral Scumbag lived in AZ he would be campaigning for Ward and would vote for her.
    That is why he is shilling for her here everyday.

    – Jason fraud lies. Example 3751.

    I’m shilling for her everyday here? Please go back through the archives and find one positive post I’ve made about chemtrail Kelli.

    You won’t find any because I never have, but you lie with ease so you don’t care about the facts.

  200. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 17, 2018 at 12:08 pm
    I’ve told you repeatedly, I don’t care what Democrats do.”
    Yes, we know, you have a double standard for everything as most amoral scumbags do.
    That is why you have zero credibility and nobody here believes a word you say.

    – Whereas you seem to have no standard for Trump, even when he sides with Putin.

  201. jason says:

    Karen Handel almost completely avoided Trump in her special election win.”

    Another lie.

    Actually, Trump was very involved in trying to help her win, “nationalized” the race as much as possible to convince the voters that it was important to him that she win, and attacked Ossoff constantly as soft on crime and big on taxes and a carpetbagger to boot. And he went to GA to campaign with her.

    The opposite was true, it was Ossoff that stayed away from criticizing Trump.

    “Democrat Jon Ossoff often doesn’t mention Donald Trump’s name at campaign events unless pressed by voters or reporters. He doesn’t make much hay about the controversies plaguing the Republican’s young presidency. And he steers well clear of the i-word: impeachment.

    For someone once branded by his campaign as a “Make Trump Furious” candidate, Ossoff has stayed away from serrated-edged criticism of the president ahead of the nationally watched June 20 runoff with Republican Karen Handel in the 6th Congressional District.

    He typically dodges chances to take a swipe at Trump and clung to a relative silence during the president’s visit to Atlanta in April to stump with Handel. And Ossoff is not running on the latest string of setbacks besetting Trump, saying instead that voters are “tired of partisan rhetoric and interested in solutions.”

  202. jason says:

    I’m shilling for her everyday here?”

    Yeah, you want her to win because you see that as bad for Trump.

    Same reason as why you want Rs to lose 40 seats.

    Everyone here can see through your silly antics.

    Now GFY.

  203. jason says:

    Of course, I see you didn’t share it, you b*st*rd!”

    I thought you would understand, since the sandwiches are quite small.

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0c/6a/06/0c6a06c25c116dcc751fc14b9244ed5b.jpg

  204. jason says:

    Whereas you seem to have no standard for Trump, even when he sides with Putin.”

    Zzzzzzz…that he agrees with Putin there was no collusion?

    I disagree with Trump on issues that are actually important, however, like his disastrous and short sighted trade policy and his self defeating statements about NATO.

    Collusion? That is for you and your MSM buddies to whine about.

  205. NYCmike says:

    In regard to NATO, jason, what do you do about:

    1) individual countries NOT FUNDING their own militaries?

    and

    2) Turkey?

  206. jason says:

    In regard to NATO, jason, what do you do about:

    1) individual countries NOT FUNDING their own militaries?

    and

    2) Turkey?”

    Our interests and our stake in preserving NATO and its goals may be different and/or less important to some of the other members.

    So what we pay for NATO and the benefits of a stable geopolitical situation should not be dependent on what “others pay”. For years France took an independent view of NATO but the alliance survived.

    NATO is our interest, just as stability in the Korean peninsula is in our interest. When something is in our interest and alternative (war) is much more expensive, that should how we look at “costs”.

    So putting the alliance at risk because some other country won’t pay 2% or whatever is really, really stupid.

  207. jason says:

    There are some missing words above, I need more coffee.

  208. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez speaks again: “Gun control? Oh yes, I also think that what people are starting to see at least with the violence of legal gun owners and hunters is the increasing crisis of terror. And that to me is where I tend to come from on this issue.”

  209. DW says:

    more Ocasio-Cortez …

    “Tariffs? Yes, that is very important to me. We need to stop those who terrify children. People are starting to see at least with the lack of government protection the increasing crisis of terrified children. And that to me is where I tend to come from on this issue.”

  210. DW says:

    even more Ocasio-Cortez…

    “Oh yes, I am proud to be for term limits. My friends in college all complained about how long each term dragged on, limiting at least the amount of time we could be on social media. And that to me is where I tend to come from on this issue.”

  211. Wes says:

    Tell me 222 is from the Onion, DW.

  212. lisab says:

    Karen Handel almost completely avoided Trump in her special election win
    ———————————————-

    DUNWOODY, Ga. (AP) — Republican Karen Handel won a nationally watched congressional election Tuesday in Georgia, and she thanked President Donald Trump after she avoided an upset that would have rocked Washington ahead of the 2018 midterm elections.

    Returns showed Handel, a former Georgia secretary of state, winning about 52 percent of the vote over Democrat Jon Ossoff, who won nearly 48 percent in Georgia’s 6th Congressional District.

    “A special thanks to the president of the United States of America,” she said late Tuesday night as her supporters chanted, “Trump! Trump! Trump!”

  213. DW says:

    yet even more Ocasio-Cortez…

    “Do I agree with Congressman Hank Johnson that Guam could flip over? That’s an interesting question to think about. I am not an expert in this area. I have never met Guam so I don’t know how athletic he is. So that to me is where I tend to come from on this issue.”

  214. DW says:

    Wes…I crafted them all…once I get started the ideas keep coming.

  215. Wes says:

    Good, DW. I was hoping even AOC wouldn’t be that dumb. You really should apply to the Onion as a writer.

  216. lisab says:

    lisa page is apparently throwing strzok under the bus in a major way

    time to buy a life insurance policy on her

  217. lisab says:

    CNN analyst wonders when ‘almost a shadow government’ will come out against Trump

    CNN analyst and former CIA official Philip Mudd on Monday wondered whether “almost a shadow government” will come out against President Donald Trump after the controversial summit with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    “Curious point in American government: When do we see almost a shadow government come out and say, ‘we cannot side with the government,’ whether it’s the Cabinet or the Senate,” Mudd said during a broadcast in Helsinki, Finland.

  218. lisab says:

    George Soros Bet Big on Liberal Democracy. Now He Fears He Is Losing.

    His enemies paint him as all-powerful, but the billionaire philanthropist believes that his political legacy has never been in greater jeopardy.

  219. NYCmike says:

    JASON,

    “and

    2) Turkey?”

  220. lisab says:

    Gohmert said Page’s closed-door testimony in the House on Friday and Monday was at times so frank that FBI lawyers tried to keep her from answering.

    “There were times the FBI lawyers would be reaching for the button to mute her comment and she would answer before the thing could mute her comment,” he said.

  221. mnw says:

    We’ve had a “shadow govt” since before Trump was sworn in.

    I plan to remember the degree of loyalty the deep state has demonstrated the next time we have a DEM president. What goes around.

  222. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez responds…

    “Shadow Government? I might have traveled there when I was a kid, but as long as Shadow’s government is Socialist, I am all for it. And that to me is where I tend to come from on this issue.”

  223. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez…

    “My political role model? Sheila Jackson Lee. I know she is not quite socialist enough to suit me, but at least she knows her way around Mars.”

  224. DW says:

    What I am trying to do is draw out Ocasio-Cortez and get her to post on HHR. She seems to me to be the type who is constantly googling her name to see what people are saying. And if there are enough hits on HHR, she might click the link and get angry enough to reply.

  225. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    219. “Our interests and our stake in preserving NATO and its goals may be different and/or less important to some of the other members.

    So what we pay for NATO and the benefits of a stable geopolitical situation should not be dependent on what “others pay”. For years France took an independent view of NATO but the alliance survived.

    NATO is our interest, just as stability in the Korean peninsula is in our interest. When something is in our interest and alternative (war) is much more expensive, that should how we look at “costs”.

    So putting the alliance at risk because some other country won’t pay 2% or whatever is really, really stupid.”

    The European members are the ones that NATO was formed to protect from invasion. Our participation is to help in their protection. If they won’t pay their fair share for their own protection, then there is no reason for the U.S. to be involved. Why are their interests in preserving NATO less important than ours?

    This reminds me of your argument that we should never have tariffs, even if other countries impose them against us. Supposedly it will preserve free trade.

    The U.S. is not Santa Claus.

  226. Tina says:

    Trust us, says Deep State, after failing on 9/11, Iraq, and launching a coup.

    Schlichter has an interesting article. Trump is blessed with having stupid enemies, like the jebots.

    All because her thighness lost.

  227. jason says:

    You are really stupid if you think world stability is not in our interest.

    In fact, that is so stupid I won’t even bother arguing the point.

  228. Bitterlaw says:

    A few Russians did meddle in the election. There is no evidence that Trump or his campaign had anything to do with it or benefitted from it. Both can be true.

    Whether you think dealing with Russia is positive or negative, can we at least agree that Putin has always been a KGB thug and killer? Common ground, people.

  229. NYCmike says:

    “You are really stupid if you think world stability is not in our interest.”

    -Odd, I didn’t interpret SDC statement in the same way.

    That Quechuan is a real tough language!

  230. Tina says:

    Yes they meddled on both sides, but Fuhrer Mukehead left that part out in the last indictment

    Had no impact on votes tabulated or states won,

    Leadership under obumbler also meddled using agencies in an appropriate manner.

    Mexico likely meddled more than Russia with non citizens voting, but we cannot go there.

  231. Tina says:

    Notice the jebots

    Cabinet members must resign.

    Trump cannot meet one on one with kgb pooty poot, even though the obumbler and mute 43 did so.

    There is a shadow gubment.

    There needs to be a military coup.

    These answers are all wrong. If you feel that trump has the wrong policy, then beat him at the ballot box and quit protecting her thighness.

  232. Tina says:

    He has every right to distrust the intelligence that has failed to do its job or whose senior folks, comedy, McCabe, comrade,etc., engaged in shenanigans.

  233. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez chimes in…

    “Did the Russians meddle? Of course, they always do. I always like to celebrate the successes of other countries–especially those with communist leaders we can admire. People are starting to see how with socialism, athletes can be so much better. Just look how many medals Russia wins every Olympics. So that to me is where I tend to come from on this issue.”

  234. DW says:

    I dedicate all these Ocasio-Cortez quotes to Walt, our resident wordsmith who must be busy today finding good pasture for Cash Cow.

  235. Tina says:

    Rep. John Ratcliffe reveals Lisa Page admitted her text messages with Peter Strzok “mean exactly what they say,” contrary to Strzok’s testimony

    Send a criminal referral to Redactstein.

  236. Blobbie says:

    I thought this was a photoshop, but it’s not. This is Maria Butina — arrested for being a Russian spy — in the Oval Office with Trump.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiT2y81VQAAPpgg.jpg

  237. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez chimes in…

    “Should there be a military coup? That’s a tough question, as I am not an expert on military vehicles. I know my father’s first car was a ’73 Chevy Impala Coupe, but I don’t think it had anything to do with the army. So that to me is where I tend to come from on this issue.”

  238. jason says:

    Alcee Hastings (D) on Ocasio-Cortez..

    “Meteors fizz out”

  239. lisab says:

    hillary is coreect we should prevent election tampering …

    trump should call for strict voter id laws

  240. Robbie says:

    So after more than 24 hours to come up with an excuse for his embarrassing performance yesterday, the best the “very stable genius” could come up with is he meant to say “wouldn’t” instead of “would”?

    Laughable. As Scott Jennings, a former McConnell aid, said on CNN earlier, Trump would have been better off saying nothing today.

  241. Tina says:

    CNN yesterday: How dare Trump not stick up for America!

    CNN today: How dare Trump stick up for America!

    Lol, unhinged.

  242. Robbie says:

    Blobbie says:
    July 17, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    I thought this was a photoshop, but it’s not. This is Maria Butina — arrested for being a Russian spy — in the Oval Office with Trump.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiT2y81VQAAPpgg.jpg

    – Cry more.

  243. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez responds to Alcee Hastings…

    “That is so hurtful. I am the future shooting star of the Democratic Party, not a meteor! I will de-friend you on facebook if you keep this up! Here, let me send you a picture of the youth soccer participation trophies on my dresser to show you how successful I am…”

  244. jason says:

    an we at least agree that Putin has always been a KGB thug and killer?”

    Fine, if you think that is important. It doesn’t change the fact you cannot ignore Russia on the world scene.

    But the fact is in foreign policy you still have to deal with thugs and killers if its in our interest to do so.

    The world is full of leaders who are thugs and killers, you don’t have to stick your head in the sand because of it.

  245. Tina says:

    Butina is also pictured with

    Francois Kerry,

    No collision though.

  246. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    July 17, 2018 at 1:51 pm
    Gohmert said Page’s closed-door testimony in the House on Friday and Monday was at times so frank that FBI lawyers tried to keep her from answering.

    – If Gohmert murdered someone, he couldn’t be executed because his IQ is too low. Who cares what that moron says about anything.

  247. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump clarified his Helsinki comments, once he was no longer under Putin’s evil spell

    “Speaking at the White House Tuesday afternoon, President Trump clarified remarks he made during a joint press briefing with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Helsinki Monday.

    The president said he accepts U.S. intelligence analysis that Russia did in fact interfere in the 2016 presidential election through propaganda, while stating there was no collusion between the Kremlin and his campaign. He said his administration is doing everything possible to prevent Russian meddling in future elections.

    “I have full faith in our intelligence agencies,” Trump said. “I accept our intelligence community conclusion that Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election took place.”

    “We are doing everything in our power to prevent Russian interference in 2018,” he continued.”

  248. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag would be critical of Trump if he found the cure for cancer.

    I made this point yesterday, that there is nothing Trump could have said that would have pleased the dishonest MSM and their sycophants like Amoral Scumbag.

    The proof is in the pudding, Amoral Scumbag doesn’t like Trump’s correction either.

    On that basis, I agree, Trump shouldn’t have issued any correction, because in the end when you are dealing biased and corrupt fake news organizations it doesn’t matter what he says, it will be distorted and lied about anyway.

  249. Tina says:

    Lisa it is page that turned on McCabe and Pete the
    Cheat,

    This is not stopping here, despite the obstruction by Wrong Wray and Redactstein,

    This is going straight to the obumbler and that is why the jebots are unhinged, like cn and n.

  250. Robbie says:

    I see SDC is channeling the Pat Buchanan line on America’s role in the world.

    The US has great interest in making sure NATO works because it serves as a bulwark against Russia.

    I know Russia held in high esteem by many Trumpaloos, but there’s a reason Putin is so upset that NATO encroaches on Russia’s border. He knows it is effective.

    If it weren’t for NATO, Putin almost certainly would have moved against one of the Baltic states.

    He’s a KGB thug intent on reclaiming the “glory” of the Soviet empire.

  251. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    260. “Who cares what that moron says about anything.”

    What a coincidence; that’s how most the posters on this board feel about you.

  252. Tina says:

    He also attacked the obumbler for not doing anything, despite knowing for months what Russia was up to.

    Claims the obumbler panicked after he won.

    He should have mentioned You tubes stand down order to the it person.

  253. Tina says:

    I need to by my energy from Russia though.

    Mullah Merkel

  254. Tina says:

    Dimitri, I have more flexibility after my re election. Tell pooty poot that will you? 2012

    Pooty poot, cut it out? Cut what out? 2016

  255. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 17, 2018 at 4:59 pm

    The proof is in the pudding, Amoral Scumbag doesn’t like Trump’s correction either.

    – That’s because it wasn’t a correction, Jason fraud.

    Trump today: “Let me be totally clear in saying that — and I’ve said this many times — I accept our intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election took place.”

    “Could be other people also. There’s a lot of people out there.”

    So, in fact, Trump didn’t accept the IC view it was Russia because he said it could be other people as well.

    But have fun trying to explain away words that came out of Trump’s mouth.

  256. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:00 pm
    260. “Who cares what that moron says about anything.”
    What a coincidence; that’s how most the posters on this board feel about you.

    – Gohmert is an embarrassment. If you want to argue otherwise, good luck.

    By the way, I feel similarly about someone who thinks Rasmussen is a real poll, who thinks he knows what real Republicans sound like even though he is an Independent, and who advocated that Trump should take a break and let Jared and Ivanka (both liberals) take over for a while.

  257. jason says:

    Trump”

    “I have full faith in our intelligence agencies,” Trump said. “I accept our intelligence community conclusion that Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election took place.”

    Amoral Scumbag:

    Trump would have been better off saying nothing today.”

    What more is left to be said?

  258. jason says:

    What a coincidence; that’s how most the posters on this board feel about you.

    LOL

  259. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Actually the Baltic States, Poland and the other former communist countries like Trump. They know he is reliable. Trump has been providing the Ukraine the weapons they need, which Obama and Merkel refused to do. Trump is also putting troops directly in the Baltics periodically again. Also U.S. tanks and troops moved into Finland from Norway this year for military exercises.

    “U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday that the United States would periodically station troops in the Baltic states in an effort to deter Russia. According to a joint statement signed at Trump’s meeting with the presidents of the Baltic states.

    President Kersti Kaljulaid along with Latvian President Raimonds V?jonis and Lithuanian President Dalia Grybauskait? met with Trump in Washington, D.C. on Tuesday. After the meeting, the presidents stated that they will look for new ways of enhancing regional air defense in the Baltic states on both bilateral grounds as well as within NATO.

    “The United States of America intends to continue periodic deployment of forces to the Baltic States to strengthen deterrence and to catalyze the efforts of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania to develop their national defense,” the joint declaration approved at the meeting reads. “We continue to explore new ideas and opportunities, including air defense, bilaterally and in NATO, to enhance deterrence across the region.”

    Poland and the Baltics strongly object Germany’s effort to build the Nord Stream pipeline, which will make German dependent on Russian gas. Trump has supported their objection.

  260. jason says:

    because he said it could be other people as well.”

    So what is wrong with that?

    Do you for a fact know nobody else except the Russians could have been hacking the 2016 elections?

    Are you really that stupid?

    Don’t answer, we know the answer.

  261. lisab says:

    Who cares what that moron says about anything.
    —————————————-

    he graduated from baylor law school

  262. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    273. “bilaterally and in NATO”

    One reason Trump said this was to reassure the Baltics (and Poland) that the U.S. will independently support them. They don’t trust NATO and Germany.

  263. NYCmike says:

    “Actually the Baltic States, Poland and the other former communist countries like Trump. They know he is reliable. Trump has been providing the Ukraine the weapons they need, which Obama and Merkel refused to do. Trump is also putting troops directly in the Baltics periodically again. Also U.S. tanks and troops moved into Finland from Norway this year for military exercises.”

    What I stated twice yesterday:

    “That said, as I stated earlier, the more important thing would be to watch how Mattis, Pompeo, Bolton, Haley and the military work with our allies in eastern Europe and Asia, to combat the growing menaces of Putin/Russia and China.”

  264. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    270. “who thinks he knows what real Republicans sound like even though he is an Independent,”

    Robbie, lisab has already established that you have not supported a Republican presidential candidate in about two decades. I worked to elect Romney and McCain. Who are you trying to kid? Likewise I was a strong Marco Rubio supporter, as I posted often on this board.

  265. Tina says:

    China got Hillarys emails too.

    There are reports from 2015.

    So, they interfered too.

  266. Tina says:

    In fact, China did a massive hack of gubment all data on its employees a few years ago.

    This was real hacking, not stupidity caused by her thighness or the pedosta.

  267. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    277. ““That said, as I stated earlier, the more important thing would be to watch how Mattis, Pompeo, Bolton, Haley and the military work with our allies in eastern Europe and Asia, to combat the growing menaces of Putin/Russia and China.””

    Totally agree. Trump has surrounding himself with retired Marine officers and individuals with excellent pedigrees. Obama with Kerry who spoke out against his own country — and a bunch of left-wingers bias against the military.

  268. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:14 pm
    Who cares what that moron says about anything.
    —————————————-
    he graduated from baylor law school

    – Oh, that settles it. If someone graduates from law school, they can’t be a moron.

    By the way, how is Trump’s lawsuit against the GAO that you said was a surefire winner back in December going?

  269. Tina says:

    Trump has a much better cabinet than mute 43 or the obumbler, the two immediate predecessors.

    Mute 43 was filled with a lot of bush chronies. Largely incompetent.

  270. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:09 pm
    Trump”
    “I have full faith in our intelligence agencies,” Trump said. “I accept our intelligence community conclusion that Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election took place.”
    Amoral Scumbag:
    Trump would have been better off saying nothing today.”
    What more is left to be said?

    – Poor Jason fraud is so determine to defend Trump on this, he’s leaves out the very nest sentence Trump spoke.

    “Could be other people also. There’s a lot of people out there.”

    I’m sure it was just a mistake on Jason fraud’s part.

  271. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    281. By the way, for the first time every, U.S. Marines trained with Finnish military forces just several months ago.

    Christopher Woody, May 25, 2018
    US Marines from the 4th Tank Battalion withdrew tanks and weapons from caves in Norway earlier this month, taking them east to Finland, where, for the first time, they took part in the annual mechanized exercise called Arrow 18.
    The drills took place from May 7 to May 18 in southern Finland, which shares a long border with Russia and has a history of conflict with its larger neighbor. It involvedabout 150 armored vehicles and 300 other military vehicles. Only 30 Marines took part, but they were joined by thousands of personnel from Norway and Finland.
    The live-fire event is led by the Finns, who perform the exercise with partner forces to test the fitness of their military, which is largely made up of conscripts.
    “The Finnish Army’s mechanized exercise concentrates on mechanised units’ offensive and involves Army helicopter measures as well as Air Force flight activities,” the Finnish army said. “The exercise also aims at enhancing interoperability in cooperation with foreign detachments.”
    Marines joined the multinational exercise for the first time “in order to increase interoperability, reassure partner nations, improve readiness and reinforce relationships,” a Corps spokesman told Marine Corps Times.
    Marines with Bravo Company, 4th Tanks Battalion, fire a M1A1 Abrams tank during a low-light live-fire exercise as part of Exercise Arrow 18 in Pohjankangas Training Area near Kankaanpaa, Finland, May 16, 2018. US Marine Corps/Staff Sgt. Marcin Platek
    The Marine Corps began storing vehicles, weapons, and other supplies in caves in Norway during the Cold War in an effort to pre-position equipment in case of conflict. The gear is housed in a chain of six caves in the Trondheim region of central Norway; the exact location is not known.
    Three caves have everything from rolling stock to towed artillery. The other three hold ammunition, officials told Military.com last year. There is enough gear and food to stock a force of 4,600 Marines for several weeks of combat with everything except aircraft and desktop computers.
    “All of our major equipment was drawn from the caves in Norway,” Capt. Matthew Anderson, a tank commander who participated in the exercise, told Stars and Stripes. “This exercise would not have happened without the caves. The equipment, forward-staged, allows us to conduct these exercises. Without it, it’s a whole lot less likely that we would have been as successful as we were.”
    Below, you can see what Marines faced during their first time in Finland.”

  272. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “ever” not “every.”

  273. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:13 pm
    because he said it could be other people as well.”
    So what is wrong with that?
    Do you for a fact know nobody else except the Russians could have been hacking the 2016 elections?
    Are you really that stupid?
    Don’t answer, we know the answer.

    – Poor Jason fraud is twisted up like an orange pretzel today.

    Trump said he accepted the IC view that Russia meddled in the election. Then in the very next breath, he said it could have been others as well.

    If the IC assessment said it was Russia and he accepted that, then how could it have been others as he said in the very next sentence?

    Are you that stupid or is this just something that happens when you choose to defend Trump?

    Don’t answer, we know the answer

  274. Tina says:

    ·
    1h
    BREAKING: Intel Chair Nunes: FBI, DOJ Obstructing Trump Probe in Hope of Dem Takeover in Congress; Warns Dems will shut down probe exposing Obama illicitly spied on Trump

  275. Phil says:

    We were at the doctor today and CNN was on in the waiting room. Wow. That network is unhinged. I had to laugh at the nutty Trump conspiracy stuff they were spewing as if it was fact. Those guys must have some really interesting Washington and Manhattan cocktail parties. A whole network of Peter Smirk types. LOL

  276. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is Trump finally giving the Ukraine the weapons that Obama refused to give them. This was done over German opposition. The U.S. is proving to the Baltics, Ukraine and Eastern Europe that it will support them; even while Germany tries to appease the Russians.

    The Trump administration has approved the largest U.S. commercial sale of lethal defensive weapons to Ukraine since 2014. The move was heavily supported by top Trump national security Cabinet officials and Congress but may complicate President Trump’s stated ambition to work with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    Administration officials confirmed that the State Department this month approved a commercial license authorizing the export of Model M107A1 Sniper Systems, ammunition, and associated parts and accessories to Ukraine, a sale valued at $41.5 million. These weapons address a specific vulnerability of Ukrainian forces fighting a Russian-backed separatist movement in two eastern provinces. There has been no approval to export the heavier weapons the Ukrainian government is asking for, such as Javelin antitank missiles.

    Congress authorized such sales in 2014 in the Ukraine Freedom Support Act, but the Obama administration never authorized large commercial or government sales, a move widely seen as a de facto decision not to provide lethal weapons to the Ukraine military. Senate Foreign Relations Committee Chairman Bob Corker (R-Tenn.), who co-sponsored the law, praised the Trump administration’s move.

    “I’m pleased the administration approved the sale of defensive lethal arms to Ukraine,” Corker told me. “This decision was supported by Congress in legislation that became law three years ago and reflects our country’s longstanding commitment to Ukraine in the face of ongoing Russian aggression.”

  277. Tina says:

    Was pedos password

    Arsehat

    P@ssword

    Password

  278. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:21 pm
    270. “who thinks he knows what real Republicans sound like even though he is an Independent,”
    Robbie, lisab has already established that you have not supported a Republican presidential candidate in about two decades. I worked to elect Romney and McCain. Who are you trying to kid? Likewise I was a strong Marco Rubio supporter, as I posted often on this board.

    – This as stupid AF, but coming from you it’s par for the course these days.

    First, lisab doesn’t know jack, but the fact you think her “view” matters says a lot about you.

    Second, I have voted for every Republican nominee for president from 1996 with Dole (when I could first vote) through 2012 with Romney. I proudly did not vote for Trump and won’t again in 2020.

    In fact, donated money to GWB in 2000 and 2004, to McCain in 2008, and to Romney in 2012. I have also donated to McConnell’s 2002, 2008, and 2014 campaigns for Senate. In 2010, I donated to Rubio and Toomey. In 2014, I also donated to Tillis.

    Newsflash, though. Just because I voted for them didn’t mean I thought they all ran good campaigns. Romney, a good man, ran a poor campaign. And you know who else holds that view? Romney.

    If a snowflake like you can’t handle hearing things about a candidate you like, too f$cking bad. Go find yourself a safe space where you can hide from the real world. Maybe you can find like minded people who want to talk about the wall, tariffs, and slamming alliances like Trump likes to do.

  279. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:24 pm
    277.

    Totally agree. Trump has surrounding himself with retired Marine officers and individuals with excellent pedigrees.

    – What’s the evidence he’s listening to them?

    I know he listens to Sean Hannity, though.

  280. Robbie says:

    For Jason fraud.

    Peter Alexander
    @PeterAlexander

    Even in his scripted do-over, Trump adds, “Could be other people also.”
    That is *not* what the US intelligence community concluded.

  281. Phil says:

    I was going to suggest a safe space for the Never Trumper-Democratic coalition types since election night. They need one badly. Rough eighteen months for the little darlings. Those cats on CNN today are just beyond out of control. Badly in need of a padded room.

  282. Tina says:

    Well Lisa page has testified that it was others.

    China got clintons emails

    The intelligence community consists of clapper, comrade, and comedy,

    Not reliable folks.

  283. jason says:

    If the IC assessment said it was Russia and he accepted that, then how could it have been others as he said in the very next sentence?”

    Amoral Scumbag is having another bad day I guess.

    Trump is still President.

    Yeah, Trump acknowledges that Russians meddled, but said maybe others meddled too.

    An entirely reasonable (and most probably true) statement.

    And of course the intelligence agencies have accused the Russians, but I have not read anything where they say ONLY the Russians could be guilty.

    Trump is President. Jeb Bush is selling guaca bowls.

    Deal with it.

  284. Tina says:

    Are cnn more unhinged than Mika or Scarfarce?

    Have Mika and scarfarce married?

    How is Mikas face?

    Does Scarfarce still look like he is transgendering?

  285. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:52 pm
    I was going to suggest a safe space for the Never Trumper-Democratic coalition types since election night. They need one badly. Rough eighteen months for the little darlings. Those cats on CNN today are just beyond out of control. Badly in need of a padded room.

    – My guess is the Always Trumpers are going to need a safe space after this election.

  286. Phil says:

    Yeah, Tina, but the lintel community does have comrade Brennan. It’s certainly comforting to me that this guy has been on the job during the last administration.

  287. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag, besides having the morals of a floating turd, is also a pathological liar.

    Anyone believes he wanted Romney to win after stating he would be celebrating Obama’s win?

    No? Good.

    There is no cure for that kind of delusion.

  288. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:54 pm
    If the IC assessment said it was Russia and he accepted that, then how could it have been others as he said in the very next sentence?”
    Amoral Scumbag is having another bad day I guess.
    Trump is still President.
    Yeah, Trump acknowledges that Russians meddled, but said maybe others meddled too.
    An entirely reasonable (and most probably true) statement.

    – Except that’s not what the IC assessment said, Jason fraud and you know it. They said it was Russia. They didn’t say it was Russia and others as well. They said it was Russia.

    I get it, though. When the “right” people criticize Trump, You want to defend Trump even though you hated him every day of the campaign, didn’t vote for him, and left the party over him.

  289. Phil says:

    I am sure Morning Joe was a hoot this morning, but then that’s true every morning. Nothing new there.

  290. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 17, 2018 at 5:58 pm
    Amoral Scumbag, besides having the morals of a floating turd, is also a pathological liar.
    Anyone believes he wanted Romney to win after stating he would be celebrating Obama’s win?
    No? Good.
    There is no cure for that kind of delusion.

    – Jason fraud, besides being a fraud, is a pathological liar. In an effort to defend Trump, Jason fraud purposefully omitted the very next sentence where Trump said it could be other people as well. Of course, the IC assessment said it was Russia and not anyone else.

  291. NYCmike says:

    “First, lisab doesn’t know jack, but the fact you think her “view” matters says a lot about you. ”

    -Robbie,

    SanDiegoCitizen was speaking about the comments which lisab found in the archives.

    THEY WERE YOUR COMMENTS.

    So, you may be correct, that lisab doesn’t know jack, but unless someone else was using your name, she sure as heck knows who wrote those comments she posted!

  292. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 17, 2018 at 6:01 pm
    I am sure Morning Joe was a hoot this morning, but then that’s true every morning. Nothing new there.

    – I’m sure Hannity will be a hoot tonight but then that’s true every night. Nothing new there.

  293. NYCmike says:

    Morning Joe compared to Hannity…….enough said.

  294. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 17, 2018 at 6:02 pm
    “First, lisab doesn’t know jack, but the fact you think her “view” matters says a lot about you. ”
    -Robbie,
    SanDiegoCitizen was speaking about the comments which lisab found in the archives.
    THEY WERE YOUR COMMENTS.
    So, you may be correct, that lisab doesn’t know jack, but unless someone else was using your name, she sure as heck knows who wrote those comments she posted!

    – Get this through your dense, Tea Party skull. Unlike a lot of the frauds who have shown up in this forum to lick Trump’s balls, I have been a Republican since the first day I registered to vote and I have voted for every Republican president because I am a Republican. Unlike Jason fraud, I didn’t leave the party over Trump either.

    If you snowflakes can’t handle that some people can vote for and support a candidate while disagreeing with the campaign they run, that’s your problem. That’s not my problem.

  295. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 17, 2018 at 6:04 pm
    Morning Joe compared to Hannity…….enough said.

    – I could also compare Morning Joe to Tucker Carlson’s white power hour or Laura Ingraham’s hour of screaming at the moon.

  296. NYCmike says:

    “– Get this through your dense, Tea Party skull.”

    -Did lisab re-post your own comments from 2006?

    YES? or NO?

  297. NYCmike says:

    “Tucker Carlson’s white power hour”

    -Pogo Loco Special!

  298. NYCmike says:

    Get to confession, Robbie.

    I’ll say some prayers for you tonight as well!

  299. Phil says:

    Did I hear Schumer refer yesterday to McCain as “the conscience of the Republican Party”? Did anyone hear Chuck say anything remotely civil about McCain when he was running against his bud Obama? Maybe I missed it, but I don’t think so.
    LOL. These idiots are soooo predictable.

  300. lisab says:

    ” Romney, a good man, ran a poor campaign. ”
    —————————–

    Now, we’re stuck with the crap sandwich known as John Kerry II, I mean Mitt Romney. — robbie

  301. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 17, 2018 at 6:10 pm
    Did I hear Schumer refer yesterday to McCain as “the conscience of the Republican Party”? Did anyone hear Chuck say anything remotely civil about McCain when he was running against his bud Obama? Maybe I missed it, but I don’t think so.
    LOL. These idiots are soooo predictable.

    – On foreign policy, McCain has always been a thought leader in the Republican Party. Thought leaders aren’t always right, but no one would suggest McCain isn’t thoughtful and sincere about his foreign policy views.

    But let’s get over 2008. McCain ran a mediocre campaign, but he was NEVER going to win. It might have made the red-hots happy if he sounded like a caller to the Rush Limbaugh show and talked about Jeremiah Wright and Bill Ayers, but it wouldn’t have changed the outcome.

  302. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    July 17, 2018 at 6:12 pm
    ” Romney, a good man, ran a poor campaign. ”
    —————————–
    Now, we’re stuck with the crap sandwich known as John Kerry II, I mean Mitt Romney. — Robbie

    – Yep, that’s precisely how a I felt about Romney in 2011 and 2012. Good men can also be mediocre political candidates. Romney’s 2008 campaign was a forerunner of his 2012 effort, lackluster.

    I know it’s hard for you to understand that people can hold multi-layered views, but Romney was a good man who I feared would run a mediocre and uninspired campaign. And you know what? That’s just what happened.

    Chris Christie was the best choice for 2012, but, stupidly, he though he wasn’t ready. Whoops.

  303. Phil says:

    Not about McCain’s winning or losing in 2008. He’s always been useful to the left when it suits them. It’s about Schumer singing the praises of McCain when it’s convenient and dishing him when he’s not. Same old same old.

  304. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 17, 2018 at 6:19 pm
    Not about McCain’s winning or losing in 2008. He’s always been useful to the left when it suits them. It’s about Schumer singing the praises of McCain when it’s convenient and dishing him when he’s not. Same old same old.

    – Gotcha. On that, you’re 100% right.

  305. Tina says:

    Quittens is a down grade compared to Hatch,

    He will sell out, like he did with obumblercare light.

  306. Tina says:

    Yeah the Intel community.

    Notice how Rodgers did not join the comrade Brennan,

    Notice how clapper wanted Rodgers fired for that

  307. Tina says:

    So, we went from muh kids in cages to muh Russian words.

  308. mnw says:

    I sometimes wonder if the number of real posts varies inversely with the number of troll posts. It seems like it gets worse every day.

  309. NYCmike says:

    “– On foreign policy, McCain has always been a thought leader in the Republican Party.”

    -Oh Lord.

    Give me a break!

  310. Tina says:

    Iraq

    Syria

    Libya

    He met with aq in Libya accidentally

    Mccains “great” foreign policy

  311. Phil says:

    Brennan wants intel withheld from the POTUS? LOL. They can’t ever help themselves from overplaying their hand every single time. It’s like clockwork.

    Good luck selling that one, comrade. Ha.

  312. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 17, 2018 at 6:55 pm
    “– On foreign policy, McCain has always been a thought leader in the Republican Party.”
    -Oh Lord.
    Give me a break!

    – Do whatever you want, but John McCain has been one of the prominent foreign policy voices in the Republican Party for two decades or more.

    Again, that doesn’t always mean he was right.

  313. Phil says:

    I’m sure Brennan trotted out his latest suggestion in front of his Washington-Georgetown cocktail Circuit buds and they were 100 percent behind this “patriot”. ‘ Great idea, John! Throw that out there. We don’t know a single person who doesn’t agree with that one.”

    Well, of that I have no doubt. Don’t you just love the bubble these fools live in. Maybe they can kick that one around on The View tomorrow. Maybe get a petition started.

  314. Bitterlaw says:

    So if Trump now has full faith in US intelligence agencies, is Tina going give Trump her list of intelligence failures?

  315. Tina says:

    Treason

    Withhold intelligence

    Military coup.

    Make Hillary President.

    All from the Drats, who never overreact. The same ds that were ok with giving piles of cash to the mullahs.

  316. Bitterlaw says:

    I agree that Trump should not have spoken today. Reading a statement just made it worse. It adds another day to the story.

  317. Tina says:

    Saying nothing would have stopped the palace coup talk.

    Genius

  318. Bitterlaw says:

    I did not say Trump should not talk to Putin. It was just too friendly. Perhaps something more along the lines of, “Although Russia is an economic joke, it still has nukes so I am here to let the KGB thug feel important while America does what it wants. On the issue of Ukraine, zzzzzzzzzz. Half of Ukraine doesn’t care about Ukraine. Vlad can have it while we make money selling weapons to people who hate Russia. Win-Win”

  319. Phil says:

    I like it, bitter. We win all the way around.

  320. lisab says:

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Says Unemployment Is Low ‘Because Everyone Has Two Jobs,’

  321. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5963257/Labour-defies-condemnation-68-Rabbis-adopt-definition-anti-Semitism.html

    A Jewish leftist blasting an anti-Semitic leftist? Won’t see that in America.

  322. lisab says:

    Russia open to extending nuclear arms treaty with U.S.

  323. Wobbles says:

    “CNN performed the worst out of the cable news networks, failing to crack the top five for total day and coming in at number ten for primetime.

    In primetime, CNN lost to TLC, which hosts shows like “OutDaughtered,” “My 600 Pound Life,” “90 Day Fiance,” and “Dr. Pimple Popper.”

    CNN was able to draw just 851,000 viewers for primetime anchors Don Lemon, Chris Cuomo, and Anderson Cooper. TLC’s lifestyle and reality shows raked in 921,000 viewers during primetime.”

    It’s not my fault, I have 3 TV’s, one for CNN, one for MSNBC and one for PBS and they are on 24/7.

  324. Phil says:

    More from super genius socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortes on immigration. Now calls for shutting down airports. Yes, wants occupation of all airports, every border crossing, every ICE office by the resistance.

    This young lady is an absolute super star – the new face of the Democratic Party. Shut down the airports – a slam dunk winning message for November.

    I love this girl!

  325. NYCmike says:

    Phil,

    That’s the spirit!

  326. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    July 17, 2018 at 8:06 pm

    – What a pathetic life that you have nothing better to do than hide behind a fake screen name.

  327. lisab says:

    The RNC had $50.7 million in cash as of June, according to the RNC official. The DNC had $8.7 million in cash as of May, according to Federal Election Commission data. The RNC also raised $13.9 million in June, the most raised during any non-presidential election year, according to the RNC official. The RNC has raised $213 million in the 2017-2018 election cycle as of June.

  328. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 17, 2018 at 7:35 pm
    I agree that Trump should not have spoken today. Reading a statement just made it worse. It adds another day to the story.

    – NBC reports that Pence and Pompeo persuaded Trump to correct his comments from yesterday.

    I think it’s also possible Trump faced the real possibility of resignations had he not said something.

    Had one or two high ranking officials resigned, that would have supercharged the issue.

    That said, I think there should be resignations. I think that’s the only way we’ll see substantive change in Trump’s behavior.

  329. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Says Unemployment Is Low ‘Because Everyone Has Two Jobs,’”

    Robbie has a soulmate.

  330. NYCmike says:

    “– What a pathetic life that you have nothing better to do than hide behind a fake screen name.”

    -Ahem, ahem…..who is the person responding to a parody……..?

  331. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    333. “I did not say Trump should not talk to Putin. It was just too friendly.”

    Maybe Trump can be like Nixon. When the press was about to take pictures, he raised his finger and acted like he was lecturing an opponent.

    Reagan used to laugh and joke with Gorbachev, you must of really disliked him.

  332. Phil says:

    I don’t know who I enjoy being the face of TDS Stage 4. The socialist chick or comrade Brennan…..

    The fact that CNN shills for both and actually gives regular air time to comrade Brennan tells you everything you need to know about that network. I hadn’t watched it in quite a while but saw fifteen minutes of it today. Good God. They’re nuttier than they were right after Trump won….I didn’t think that was possible but I found out today it actually is. Wow

  333. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    343. “I think it’s also possible Trump faced the real possibility of resignations had he not said something.”

    Yes and its possible that the Martians landed and conferred with Glinda the Good in the Land of Oz.

    You have no real evidence that either event took place.

  334. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 17, 2018 at 8:20 pm
    “Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Says Unemployment Is Low ‘Because Everyone Has Two Jobs,’”

    Robbie has a soulmate.

    – You really are an idiot. A true idiot. Go swaddle yourself in the warm embrace of garbage Rasmussen poll.

  335. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 17, 2018 at 8:36 pm
    343. “I think it’s also possible Trump faced the real possibility of resignations had he not said something.”

    Yes and its possible that the Martians landed and conferred with Glinda the Good in the Land of Oz.

    You have no real evidence that either event took place.

    – I also have no real evidence you’re not a circus clown. Still, I try and give you the benefit of the doubt. Hopefully, Rasmussen will poll on this and settle the question.

  336. Phil says:

    Rand Paul calls Brennan “completely unhinged”.

    I would have thought if anyone with an R by his name bought even a little bit into Brennan’s hysterics it would be our friend Rand Paul.

    Time to put a sock in it, Comrade.

  337. Phil says:

    Look for Brennan to be on Morning Joe this week.

    Perfect.

  338. Robbie says:

    SDC

    Call up Peter Alexander, the NBC White House correspondent, and tell him he has no real evidence Pence and Pompeo met with Trump and convinced him to amend his comments from yesterday in Helsinki.

    Peter Alexander
    ?@PeterAlexander

    Who convinced Trump to walk back his Putin comments today?
    VP Pence & Secretary of State Pompeo had a private conversation with POTUS, urging him to make the clarifications, a source familiar with the conversation tells me.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/24-hours-later-trump-claims-he-misspoke-helsinki-meant-say-n892166

  339. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Fox News had high ratings for its interviews with Trump and Putin:

    “Chris Wallace‘s widely praised interview with Putin (the indictment standoff — what theatrics!) scored blockbuster ratings for the 6 p.m. hour of Fox News, nabbing 3.1 million total viewers and and 542,000 in the coveted 25-54 demo.

    That means Bret Baier‘s Special Report, the show that featured the interview, nearly tripled CNN’s 6 p.m. broadcast in total viewers.

    That viewership bonanza didn’t end there. Sean Hannity‘s 9 p.m. interview with Trump, though far lighter on drama than Wallace’s contentious showdown with Putin, posted monster ratings as well.

    Hannity’s show snagged 3.9 million total viewers, and 800,000 in the demo. Again, the Fox News show doubled CNN’s 9 p.m. broadcast, Cuomo Primetime, which still scored a hearty 1.8 million total viewers.”

  340. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 17, 2018 at 8:50 pm
    Rand Paul calls Brennan “completely unhinged”.

    – What if both Paul and Brennan are unhinged?

    I think that’s the case.

  341. Phil says:

    355

    not out of the question.

  342. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 17, 2018 at 8:58 pm
    355

    not out of the question.

    – I voted enthusiastically for Paul in 2010. I voted for him in 2016 simply because he was on the ballot. At least for now, I’m unsure whether I will vote for him in 2022. I don’t like libertarianism, but I also don’t like Rand Paul become his father more and more.

  343. Phil says:

    Before we moved to Huntsville, Tx we lived in Ron Paul’s district. We voted against him in the primary every cycle, but he never had a serious opponent. We never got it.

  344. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    353. Robbie you just made a complete misrepresentation:

    This was the comment I challenged: “I think it’s also possible Trump faced the real possibility of resignations had he not said something.” I responded you had no proof of this claim.

    This is what you just posted in rebuttal: “Call up Peter Alexander, the NBC White House correspondent, and tell him he has no real evidence Pence and Pompeo met with Trump and convinced him to amend his comments from yesterday in Helsinki.”

    You switched subjects. The issue I brought you was there was no proof there was a” real possibility of resignations”. This has nothing to do with Trump meeting with Pence and Pompeo. It would be expected he would meet with both of them.

    This is why we call you out so much when you make claims that have no basis.

  345. lisab says:

    This Is How Racist Your Air Is

    If you’re white, you’re probably breathing cleaner air.

    JULIA LURIE

    Earlier this month, environmental scientists at the University of Minnesota came out with a startling nationwide study showing that different demographic groups are exposed to drastically different amounts of air pollution each year. The study overlaid US Census data with exposure levels of a pollutant called nitrogen dioxide, or NO2, which is created by combustion in vehicles and power plants. The results: Each year, people of color are exposed to 46 percent more NO2 than white people.

  346. lisab says:

    CNN: Trump to paint Air Force One the colors of the Russian flag

  347. Bitterlaw says:

    Reagan used to laugh and joke with
    Gorbachev while cutting out his heart and destroying the USSR.

    Please do not ever compare Trump to Reagan in a favorable way. You look foolish.

  348. mnw says:

    Looks like Roby will be fine in AL. Trump’s endorsement likely saved her. That is the opinion of The Wise Men, as well as my own opinion.

  349. mnw says:

    I believe every President, starting with Truman & every successor thereafter until 1989, deserves an EQUAL share of the credit for the collapse of the Soviet Empire.

  350. Phil says:

    I would exclude Jimmy Carter from that list.

  351. mnw says:

    Martha Roby looks like she could’ve been the mother of the 2 kid banjo players in Deliverance.

  352. Tina says:

    Breaking, Redactstein let trump chose the timing of the indictments,
    Lieu of chose 72 hours before

    Bloomberg article

  353. Tina says:

    Comrade Brennan is feeling the heat.

    Indictment time,

  354. Tina says:

    Breaking

    George Will will vote again for Hillary or Obama.

  355. Tina says:

    Thomas Wictor
    @ThomasWictor
    (26) Blubberin’ George Bush and then Hillary Clinton said to the Russians, “WE LOVE YOU! I looked into your eyes, and then I asked you to press my button.

    Pooty poot.

  356. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart Retweeted
    Laura Ingraham
    Laura Ingraham
    @IngrahamAngle
    Watching @TuckerCarlson now…Excellent show (as always) tonight! He reminds us that our intel agencies have been wrong before. #WMD And it’s an obscene farce to say that @realDonaldTrump is traitorous for asking Qs.
    5:08 PM · Jul 17, 2018

  357. Tina says:

    “unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs.” “Unemployment is low because everyone is working 60, 70, 80, hours a week and can barely feed their kids”… “capitalism has not always existed in this world, and it will not always exist in this world.”

    Cortez, the jebots new presidential candidate.

  358. Phil says:

    Democrats demand Trump’s interpreter testify before Congress.

    I told you they would overreach. Can’t help themselves. They never can.

  359. Bitterlaw says:

    Really, mnw? JFK was so weak that the Soviets decided to put missiles in Cuba. JFK caused the Cuban missile crisis so I give him little credit for solving it.

  360. Phil says:

    Yes, everything I read pointed to Krushchev meeting Kennedy in Vienna and deciding that Kennedy was pretty weak – then decided to put the missiles in Cuba.

    Of course JFK was tough on the Soviets compared to his brother Teddy, but that’s not saying much.

  361. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab was tougher on the Soviets when she was in the Peace Corps than Ted.

  362. jason says:

    I believe every President, starting with Truman & every successor thereafter until 1989, deserves an EQUAL share of the credit for the collapse of the Soviet Empire.”

    I give Reagan 90%. He was the one that challenged the USSR to an arms race that made them have to choose between “arms and butter”.

    Reagan broke the Soviet Union. And the interesting part was that he intended to do so, that was one of his two objectives. Move the US away from the New Deal and end the Soviet Union.

    The most effective President in the 20th century.

    And some, like Eisenhower and Kennedy, actually helped the Soviet Union last longer.

  363. lisab says:

    i served after the soviet union was gone …

    and the bay of pigs was planned by the cia under eisenhower

  364. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    377. I think Nixon deserves a major amount of the credit. By establishing relations with China, and playing China and the Soviet Union off against each other, he changed the dynamics of the whole situation.

    Like Phil, tended to question Jimmy Carter. But is was Jimmy Carter who actually began the U.S. arms build up, and he cut off grain sales and also boycotted the Olympic Games when the Soviet Union attacked Afghanistan.

  365. Tina says:

    The Drats can subpoena the interpreter.

    cut off trumps intelligence briefings,

    Have the military overthrown him.

    Have everybody resign from his cabinet because nbc says so.

  366. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    379. Jimmy Carter supported the Afghanistan resistance against the Soviet Union. The U.S. was heavily involved in supplying weaponry. The long Afghan War contributed to the eventual collapse of the Soviet Union.

  367. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    377. “And some, like Eisenhower and Kennedy, actually helped the Soviet Union last longer.”

    Ok, I’ll bite. What did Eisenhower do to cause the Soviet Union to last longer?

  368. mnw says:

    I see a consistent bipartisan POLICY of opposing & containing Soviet expansionism from Truman to Bush 41. Period, the end.

    Was this policy successful everywhere & always? Obviously not. So what.

  369. Tina says:

    Comedy now begging for Americans to vote drat.

  370. lisab says:

    Comedy now begging for Americans to vote drat.
    ————

    well, like robbie he is a republican

  371. Phil says:

    ….and George Will

  372. lisab says:

    It’s not wrong to compare Trump’s America to the Holocaust. By Waitman Wade Beorn for Washington Post

  373. lisab says:

    i am not sure what will happen in the midterms/2020

    however, i think there is a good chance the dems will do anything to block the scotus nominee, win the house and impeach trump

    i expect the mueller report or another scandal will come out just before the election, and it will largely be manufactured

    the dems are going all in, and i mean the end justifies the means all in

  374. jason says:

    Eisenhower was instrumental in giving away the Eastern Europe to the Soviets, in effect giving them the means to sustain the Cold War for decades more than they would have without the Iron Curtain countries. While I think he was a crappy President, I should have noted his main contribution to the Soviet Union was before he became President.

  375. jason says:

    I see a consistent bipartisan POLICY of opposing & containing Soviet expansionism from Truman to Bush 41. Period, the end.”

    Yeah, good enough to “contain” the Soviet Union, more or less.

    It took Reagan to actually bankrupt them both economically and morally.

  376. dblaikie says:

    The Dems, anti-Trumpers, and media have totally lost it — gone off the deep end. Talk about over reach! I guess no one in establishment Washington remembers Obama telling the Russian foreign minister to be patient that he will have more “flexibility” after the election. Talk about cozening up to the Russians.

    I don’t know if Trump knew that this would happen, but alot of Dems are going to run on impeachment, and ending ICE.

    And by the way, Marco Rubio has become an articulate clown. He needs to quit being so obvious in passionate desire to run for President.

  377. jason says:

    Comedy now begging for Americans to vote drat.
    ————

    well, like robbie he is a republican”

    I bet Comey and Amoral Scumbag will vote and hope for the same outcome.

  378. jason says:

    Marco Rubio has become an articulate clown.”

    Articulate is good.

    Running for President is good too.

    Passionate desire too.

    If he wants to primary Trump, may the best man win.

    What is the problem exactly?

  379. jason says:

    Carter was an incompetent weakling that probably empowered the Soviets more than any arms he gave to the Afghanistan rebels.

  380. jason says:

    Of course, FDR helped the Soviets win the Eastern Front against Hitler, but I view that as necessary, had Hitler succeeded in the East he might have been able to negotiate a deal where he would have greatly expanded Germany. An invasion would have been a lot more difficult if Hitler didn’t have to fight on two fronts.

  381. dblaikie says:

    Jason, my problem with Rubio (who I like) is that he forgets that Donald Trump has 90% approval with Republicans. For him to claim the mantle of the John McCain wing of the Republican party is going to result in the demise of a talented politician, who if he played his cards right could be President in the future.

    I am sorry, but to think that this gaff by Trump is going to have any lasting effect on his base, is foolish. Senator Rubio would do well to listen and take stock of the defense that Rush Limbaugh extended towards Trump. His voice was ignored by the media today but out in the heartland his words have power.

  382. dblaikie says:

    Yes in WW2 Russia was our ally. Together at Yalta a physically weak Roosevelt and Stalin formed the Cold War world. Stalin makes Putin seem like an angel. He killed millions. Yet there was an American President sitting and smiling with one of the worst dictators in the history of the world. Why? Because American foreign policy is about putting America first. Sound familiar?

  383. TrumpisPeteWilson says:

    Flood is breaking. Dems up by almost ten in even partisan polls like Rasmussen. Probably will see the Senate break and Dems net 2 or 3 seats. House is well gone. Easily 30 seats, probably 40. Would be 60+ if not for gerrymandering. Easy enough to undo once democrats retake governorships.

    Maybe next time nominate someone that’s not a f*cking traitor.

  384. NYCmike says:

    Pete Wilson!

  385. NYCmike says:

    CD

  386. Tina says:

    Rubio was sold as a great conservative. I was among his earliest supporters here

    He has just floundered in the senate and has turned into GOP-e.

    He may throw you a bone once in awhile, but he has been a disappointment.

  387. Tina says:

    Comedy was a non partisan Republican, despite always carrying water for Hillary.

    Mulehead never leaks, despite leaking like a sieve.

    Rubies comments are idiotic because the outcome of item 1 was his doing. He is to blame for that.

  388. Tina says:

    https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2018/07/17/mueller_all_but_ignores_the_other_russian_hack_target_the_gop.html

    Great article on the Russian scam. The Rs are to blame for not pushing back on this, in particular Warners Senate unintelligence committee, the most corrup committed in congress

  389. Bitterlaw says:

    I see that Jason still has the idea that the US should have pushed the Red Army that had steamrolled Hitler’s forces back to Moscow at the end of the war in Europe. The American people would have never stood for that as the casualties mounted.

    You can argue that the US should have raced to take Berlin but that would have been a minor prize compared to Eastern Europe. Maybe nuking Moscow would have done the trick but probably not.

    There were bad choices and worse choices to be made at the end of the war. I think the bad choices were made but that does not mean that the US should have made worse choices.

  390. phoenixrisen says:

    #398 – You’re really smoking something. If that were the case, the Dems would be killing the GOP in fundraising like they were in 2006 and 2008. The GOP though has killed Dems in fundraising since Trump won the Presidency. The other thing you have to look at is the polls have been heavily skewed on electorate turnout toward the Dems, seen some as crazy as D+6 to D+10. The other demographic you have to look at is the age 50 and over demographics as those typically are the ones that show up in mid-terms. Dems don’t have the Obama coalition of youth, African Americans, and Hispanics heavily in their favor that swept them into power in 2006 and 2008. If anything Trump has caused a big dent in that and is actually reversing some of those voters to him given the job market boom. Seeming probably a 5-10 seat gain in the House max for Dems and the GOP picking up 2 seats in the Senate best case scenario.

  391. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Rasmussen(less) has the Congressional Generic Ballot at D+5(41/46), down from last week’s D+8.
    The Donald’s approval rating dipped overnight from 46% to 44%(44/54).

  392. jason says:

    I see Bitter is still pretending giving up Eastern Europe to the Soviet Union was a great idea.

    The fact is the US could have advanced a lot faster and saved a lot more territory from the Russians if it were not for Eisenhower’s stupid and shortsighted strategy, against the advice of many of his own and British generals. Stopping at the Elbe and surrendering Berlin and all the territory in between was an even more glaring mistake, which costs us billions later with the Berlin airlift, etc. No, we probably could not have saved ALL the Iron Curtain but certainly could have saved the Baltic States, probably Hungary, Slovakia, some of the Balkan states.

    And of course FDR surrendered to Stalin at Yalta in large part due to Eisenhower’s advice.

    GWB understood what happened:

    “The agreement at Yalta followed in the unjust tradition of Munich and the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. Once again, when powerful governments negotiated, the freedom of small nations was somehow expendable. Yet this attempt to sacrifice freedom for the sake of stability left a continent divided and unstable. The captivity of millions in Central and Eastern Europe will be remembered as one of the greatest wrongs of history.”

    Let’s not forget Eisenhower made plenty of mistakes as President too, especially in the Middle East.

    http://www.thetower.org/article/we-are-still-living-with-eisenhowers-biggest-mistake-suez-egypt-israel-ikes-gamble-michael-doran/

  393. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 18, 2018 at 8:44 am
    I see that Jason still has the idea that the US should have pushed the Red Army that had steamrolled Hitler’s forces back to Moscow at the end of the war in Europe. The American people would have never stood for that as the casualties mounted.

    You can argue that the US should have raced to take Berlin but that would have been a minor prize compared to Eastern Europe. Maybe nuking Moscow would have done the trick but probably not.

    There were bad choices and worse choices to be made at the end of the war. I think the bad choices were made but that does not mean that the US should have made worse choices.

    Talk about a goddamn hypocrite! At least Jason is consistent in his all-war-all-the-time stance. Bitterlaw sat back like a a good little automaton and said nothing while Bush let ISIS along with other terrorist groups for years before finally doing something about a deteriorating situation but balks at the idea that the US should have gone to Moscow after taking out Hitler because the American people would never have supported it.

    They didn’t go for Bush’s folly in Iraq after he proved he had no idea how to conduct a war, but that’s never stopped you from shilling for his stupidity.

  394. Wes says:

    lisab says:
    July 17, 2018 at 9:21 pm
    This Is How Racist Your Air Is

    If you’re white, you’re probably breathing cleaner air.

    JULIA LURIE

    Earlier this month, environmental scientists at the University of Minnesota came out with a startling nationwide study showing that different demographic groups are exposed to drastically different amounts of air pollution each year. The study overlaid US Census data with exposure levels of a pollutant called nitrogen dioxide, or NO2, which is created by combustion in vehicles and power plants. The results: Each year, people of color are exposed to 46 percent more NO2 than white people.

    So the atmosphere’s racist now? I had no idea.

  395. jason says:

    Because of the long lasting and costly effects of his blunders, I rank Eisenhower in the top 5 of my list of worst Presidents in the 20th century, along with Wilson, Obama, Harding and Carter.

  396. Chicon says:

    I see we’re playing Monday morning quarterback 70+ years on. Even with the benefit of hindsight there’s no agreement on the proper way. Can’t understand how the idiots at the time couldn’t see it clearer.

  397. Wes says:

    How can a President who served strictly in the 21st Century be one of the five worst Presidents of the 20th Century?

  398. Robbie says:

    No doubt this will cause much pumping of fists in the air in celebration for HHR’s “always Trumpers”.

    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    ?@NolteNC

    Like Charlottesville, Helsinki Is One of Trump’s Finest Moments

    http://bit.ly/2LpCzMV via @BreitbartNews

  399. Wes says:

    By the way, Harding pushed through one of the biggest tax cuts in history, sharply reduced government spending from the excesses of the Wilson years, dropped unemployment to 1-2%, and ended a deep recession within a few months, in the process setting up nearly a full decade of economic expansion undone only when Hoover raised taxes and initiated many of the policies Roosevelt would piggyback off during the New Deal.

    Obviously Jason considers low taxes, decreased government spending, low unemployment, and exemplary economic growth failures; hence his loathing of Harding.

  400. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 18, 2018 at 10:50 am
    How can a President who served strictly in the 21st Century be one of the five worst Presidents of the 20th Century?

    – It was understanding that there would be no math.

  401. jason says:

    I am sure wes is interested in my top 5.

    Reagan, GWB, Coolidge, FDR and Nixon.

    Yep, controversial.

    Reagan goes without saying, and Coolidge was a tax cutter emeritus and presided over the roaring 20’s.

    FDR is on the list because of the war and specifically lend-lease, not his domestic policies.

    Same for GWB, the right man at the right time more than anything else. His response to 9/11 and his war against terrorism wherever it led, Patriot Act, Homeland Security, enhanced interrogations, Guantanamo, etc. kept us safe and is still keeping us safe.

    Nixon was deeply flawed personally, but he was a true statesman, probably the greatest in this century, and for that he makes the list.

  402. jason says:

    How can a President who served strictly in the 21st Century be one of the five worst Presidents of the 20th Century?”

    Ma, pretty good bait, reeled in a wes fish.

  403. Wes says:

    Again with the stupidity.

    I’m still trying to figure out how Jason can put Presidents from the 21st Century on lists of 20th Century Presidents. It would make as much sense to make a list of five greatest 20th Century Presidents including Grover Cleveland or a list of five worst 20th Century Presidents including Ben Harrison.

  404. jason says:

    I see we’re playing Monday morning quarterback 70+ years on”

    Yep, that’s what we do.

    The best explanation I ever heard Nixon give for Watergate was that “it seemed like a good idea at the time”.

  405. Wes says:

    If you want to call typing something asinine bait that’s perfectly fine.

  406. jason says:

    Ma, the bait is still working.

    That GWB brand is really good.

  407. jason says:

    Ok, now that wes went for the bait, we can switch GWB for Teddy Roosevelt on the best list and switch Obama for Clinton on the worst list.

  408. Wes says:

    That at least ensures all Presidents on your list served in the stated time frame, Jason.

  409. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 18, 2018 at 8:44 am
    I see that Jason still has the idea that the US should have pushed the Red Army that had steamrolled Hitler’s forces back to Moscow at the end of the war in Europe. The American people would have never stood for that as the casualties mounted.

    – Stalin had a nearly unlimited supply of men he could conscript, an industrial might that withstood a massive, years long German invasion, and a force that defeated the best the German army had to offer.

    The idea the US and British forces could have rolled into Moscow and defeated the Soviets with a certain amount of ease defies logic.

    First, Stalin was willing to sacrifice as many men as needed to win. Heck, he sent men into battle without guns figuring they could just pick up the weapon of a dead soldier near them.

    Americans would not have been willing to accept the kinds of casualties that would have resulted from a war with the Soviets. By mid 1945, polls already showed Americans growing weary of the losses taken in the Pacific.

    Second, an invasion of Russia likely would have bogged down and required a nuclear attack on Moscow. And at the end of the Japanese war, the US didn’t have an unlimited supply of nuclear weapons.

    Starting a war with Russia would have been a major mistake.

  410. Wes says:

    Of course regardless of century, Bill Clinton–who signed welfare reform, capital gains tax cuts, and the Roth IRA into law before successfully ending the war in the former Yugoslavia and left office with a 65% approval rating–was 1000 times the President GWB–incompetent liar, buffoon, and jingoist–was.

  411. Robbie says:

    Harding was so corrupt it was rumored at the time Republicans may have had him knocked off because it would improve their chances to win in 1924. And while that didn’t happen, Coolidge did win a massive victory in 1924.

    A lesson for today?

  412. Wes says:

    It’s just too bad the 22nd Amendment was in effect in 2000. Had it not been, Bill Clinton would have been able to handily defeat the idiot who ultimately succeeded him as President.

  413. jason says:

    Harding was one step above moron and famously said

    “I am not fit for this office and should never have been here.”

    His father told him that had he been a girl he would have been pregnant right away “because you can’t say no”.

    He was picked from a smoked filled room at the 11th hour because he was the only guy the party bosses could agree with.

    The stress of the job killed the poor bastard, although most of the time in office he used to play golf, poker and womanize (maybe that is why wes likes him).

  414. Wes says:

    There is no proof Harding was involved in the major scandal of his presidency–Teapot Dome. We do know he fired those involved and had the Attorney General prosecute them.

    Harding was a notorious womanizer, but I don’t see how philandering is really a disqualifier for President since many Presidents going back at least to Jefferson and possibly to Washington ran around on their wives.

  415. Wes says:

    A GWB supporter–remember, GWB once asked “Is our children learning?”–says Harding was one step above a moron. That’s rich. At least Harding could speak a coherent sentence without mangling the English language unlike Mr. Misunderestimated.

  416. jason says:

    Bill Clinton was a corrupt, dishonest, amoral scumbag who was impeached and disbarred.

    He was a true accident, a small time Arkansas crook who became President because none of the heavyweights in the Dem Party wanted to run against GHWB when he had 85% approval at the time the decisions to run were being made. Later GHWB got hurt by the recession and a rogue prosecutor, and Clinton only had to beat Tsongas (?) and Moonbeam to get the nomination. And he still got the help of the Perot to boot.

    He doesn’t even deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as GWB, who actually honored the office instead of debasing it.

  417. Robbie says:

    Trump’s interview on Tucker Carlson’s White Power Hour last night was embarrassing.

    Trump agreed with Tucker there’s no reason for the US to send people to die for Montenegro. Well, maybe so, but they’re part of NATO and we agreed to do so if they are invaded by Russia.

    And let me remind the nationalist populists who love Trump that the only time NATO invoked Article 5 was to defend the US after 9/11. I’m sure there were Poles, French, and British who didn’t think they needed to defend America from Osama bin laden, but they did. Of course, Trump welched on all sorts of business payments so maybe he thinks he can welch on mutual defense agreements too.

    Also, let me remind the Trumpaloos that Putin tried to foster a coup in Montenegro in 2016. And then suddenly after Trump gets played like a fiddle by Putin at this summit, Trump suddenly mentions Montenegro isn’t worth defending? Interesting timing.

  418. Wes says:

    When asked about Pervez Musharraf, GWB said this:

    Hiller persisted, saying “Can you name him?”

    Bush said: “General. I can name the general. General.”

    So Musharraf is named General. Who knew?

  419. jason says:

    WB once asked “Is our children learning?”

    Wow.

    Bill Clinton is a rapist.

    But heck, nice moral equivalency.

  420. Robbie says:

    Bill Clinton was, in many ways, an accidental president. Were it not for Pat Buchanan riling up the populist base in the primary and Ross Perot’s bizarre third party run which capitalized on the disruption Buchanan created, GHWB would have easily won re-election.

    GHWB will go down in history as the best one-term president we’ve had.

  421. jason says:

    Here is how Amoral Scumbag watches Fox News.

    He goes to MSNBC to see what their opinion is of something on Fox.

  422. Wes says:

    GWB honored the office so much he refused to defend himself against media attacks and used a legitimate national tragedy to lie the country into a completely unnecessary war in Iraq that cost 500,000 people their lives because of GWB’s stupidity and incompetence.

    No one died because Clinton lied about Lewinsky.

    GWB–who failed utterly as President–doesn’t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence as Bill Clinton–who was infinitely his superior as President.

  423. Wes says:

    If Bill Clinton raped anyone–and there is no clear evidence of that–then he deserves to be prosecuted and imprisoned. That changes nothing about the quality of his presidency.

  424. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 18, 2018 at 11:23 am
    Here is how Amoral Scumbag watches Fox News.

    – I watched the interview as it aired on FoxNews at 8 PM last night, Jason fraud.

    But rather than deflect, tell me what you think of Trump questioning whether he would honor the mutual defense agreement of NATO.

  425. Wes says:

    Robbie, if GWB were set to win reelection easily, then why did he trail Clinton in every poll from July 1992 on and run further behind Clinton when Perot left the race than when Perot was running?

  426. Wes says:

    Err, GHWB.

  427. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 18, 2018 at 11:27 am
    Robbie, if GWB were set to win reelection easily, then why did he trail Clinton in every poll from July 1992 on and run further behind Clinton when Perot left the race than when Perot was running?

    – The damage to GHWB’s re-election campaign was inflicted in late 1991 and early 1992 by Buchanan’s primary challenge. By July, the national polls had finally caught up with the fracture that had taken place in the Republican Party. Perot was a safe landing spot.

    Had Buchanan not run the original Tea Party challenge to GHWB and then seen Perot capitalize on the wreckage Buchanan wrought, GHWB would have won against a small time governor like Clinton.

  428. Wes says:

    That still doesn’t explain why GHWB ran worse when Clinton was his only opponent than when Clinton and Perot were both in the race.

  429. jason says:

    watched the interview as it aired on FoxNews at 8 PM last night,”

    I am sure that is just another of your lies. You wouldn’t miss MSNBC for anything.

    Nobody here has been more critical of Trump’s stances on NATO than I have, so why don’t you GFY.

  430. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 18, 2018 at 11:38 am
    watched the interview as it aired on FoxNews at 8 PM last night,”
    I am sure that is just another of your lies. You wouldn’t miss MSNBC for anything.
    Nobody here has been more critical of Trump’s stances on NATO than I have, so why don’t you GFY.

    – Poor baby didn’t get the answer he wanted, so he threw another hissy fit and just claimed I lied. Par for the course with Jason fraud.

    Tough stand on Trump’s comments too. That’s what Trump’s counting on, by the way. That you just shrug your shoulders, say you have disagreed with him already on that, and then just move on.

    Useful idiot.

  431. Paul says:

    That Montenegro thing is very concerning. I doubt Trump even knew they were part of NATO until Putin brought it up in their meeting and inferred that they were an “aggressive population”.

    I hope I’m wrong, but I predict Russia will be moving into a few Eastern European countries in the name of ‘stability’ or ‘protecting’ the Russian minorities in those nations.

    And in Syria, Russia will “fight ISIS” which will mean killing any citizen who opposes Assad’s regime. And Trump will be pleased with these efforts.

  432. Paul says:

    Slobodan Miloševi? came around too soon. He and his Serbian thugs might have the full backing of both Putin and Trump if he were around today, ridding their country of “Muslim terrorists”.

  433. Robbie says:

    Trump’s Twitter troll army has gotten the message. How would you like to have this 20 year old idiot advising you on investing strategies.

    Jacob Wohl
    @JacobAWohl

    If Russia assists MAGA Candidates on the internet in this year’s midterms, that’s not the end of the world

  434. Wes says:

    Deadenders, unite! Blankenship is trying to stick to Morrisey for having the audacity to win the Senate primary.

    http://www.journal-news.net/news/local-news/2018/07/blankenship-says-he-has-the-signatures-to-run-again/

  435. jason says:

    That still doesn’t explain why GHWB ran worse when Clinton was his only opponent than when Clinton and Perot were both in the race.”

    Zzzzz…

    That ignores that its not a popular vote contest, its an electoral college system.

    If you look at the results, you will see that the Perot vote hurt GHWB in several states that he lost narrowly, the national polls are irrelevant.

    And also the Perot vote was not ideologically uniform among all states. So you can’t say well because a national poll showed Perot voters would split equally, they probably wouldn’t split equally in every state.

    For example in Ohio Clinton won by 100k votes, about 1%, Perot got a million votes. I think you can make the argument GHWB would have gotten more of Perot’s votes than Clinton.

    In NH, Clinton won by 7k votes, 1%, and Perot got 121k votes.

    In GA, Clinton won by 13k vote, about 0.6%. Perot got 300k votes. It’s not hard to imagine Bush could have gotten 13k more of Perot’s votes in a conservative state.

    Now in NJ where Clinton only won by 80k votes, about 2%, and Perot got 500k votes, you can probably argue the Perot vote would have been more evenly split, or maybe even more pro-Clinton.

  436. Wes says:

    So I guess if Deadenders can’t cost the party elections by winning primaries, they’ll cost the party elections by running as third-party spoilers.

  437. Robbie says:

    This is the kind of top shelf thinking that we get from Trump’s MAGA base. Praise for Putin because Dear Leader Trump likes Putin. Anyone want to tell this moron that Putin is worth billions because he’s stolen it from Russian businesses.

    Jacob Wohl
    @JacobAWohl

    Vladimir Putin does a lot for his country considering he’s only paid the measly salary of $112,000 a year — He could easily make millions of dollars a year from public speaking alone, but after 20 years in the spotlight, he presses on

  438. Wes says:

    I was waiting for that, Jason. I just happened to have an article ready to go once you posted that asinine comment in 452. Thanks, buddy:

    http://archive.fairvote.org/plurality/perot.htm

  439. jason says:

    say you have disagreed with him already on that, and then just move on.”

    Yep. I think we should move on, there are much bigger issues on the table.

    I know, you are still in the primary mode, waiting for the brokered convention that will anoint Jeb! the nominee.

    You can rest assured, nobody will ever accuse Amoral Scumbag of moving on.

  440. jason says:

    wes, you can argue with the numbers, I posted them specifically for you.

  441. Wes says:

    The fairvote article breaks down the 1992 election and concludes while GHWB might have made it closer without Perot in the race, Clinton still would have won with a reduced margin.

  442. Wes says:

    The article I posted has numbers too, Jason. They conclude GHWB would have topped out at 257-281 in a best-case scenario and lost reelection.

  443. Robbie says:

    Since 1980, the Republican nominee has won Kentucky every time with two exceptions. On both occasions, Ross Perot was on the ballot.

    In 1992, Clinton won by 3 percentage points. In 1996, Clinton won by just 13,000 votes or less than 1 percentage point.

    Otherwise, starting with 1984, Republicans have won Kentucky by 10 points or more.

    1984 – 21 points
    1988 – 12 points
    2000 – 15 points
    2004 – 21 points
    2008 – 16 points
    2012 – 23 points
    2016 – 30 points

  444. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 18, 2018 at 11:56 am
    say you have disagreed with him already on that, and then just move on.”
    Yep. I think we should move on, there are much bigger issues on the table.

    – The guy who thinks NATO is extremely important says we should all just move on when Trump openly questions the mutual defense agreement of NATO.

  445. Tina says:

    Groper 41 betrayed the Reagan revolution.

    1000 points of liberalism.

    The tax increases

    The Souter failure

    Could not articulate that we were not in a recession in 1992.

    The expansion of gubment under his watch.

    Bad Pr side to, but not as bad as Jimah c

    He let sununu take control and he failed.

  446. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 18, 2018 at 11:57 am
    The fairvote article breaks down the 1992 election and concludes while GHWB might have made it closer without Perot in the race, Clinton still would have won with a reduced margin.

    – You’re talking about a race in which Perot was a factor.

    I’m talking about a race in which Perot never contemplated a run.

  447. Wes says:

    See, you make the assumption that had Perot not been in the race, enough of his votes would have broken GHWB’s way–even though exit polling said they would have split roughly evenly–to give the then-President the 92 EVs he needed to achieve victory. There’s actually no evidence of this beyond your speculation.

    Numbers are what they are, but none of them say or even hint GHWB would have won had Perot not been a candidate. In fact, just the opposite, they say Clinton would have still won by either a wider margin or a smaller one depending on how things played out.

  448. Wes says:

    Actually I specifically asked you why GHWB ran worse when Perot was not a candidate than when Perot was in the race, Robbie. You really should try to keep up in the future.

  449. jason says:

    Personally I think GHWB would have won the election even with Perot had Walsh the rogue prosecutor not interfered.

    Bush was closing in even with Perot in the race and all the winds went out of his sails when the indictments came a few days out.

    It’s only conjecture, but Bush lost a lot of momentum.

  450. Wes says:

    Of course there are these pesky things called polls from 1992 that for four straight months universally said GHWB was going to lose, but I’ll let Jason have his little fantasy.

  451. Tina says:

    41 is better than 43, one of the worst presidents in modern times.

    43 help us lose in 2008, 2012, and is dumb brother was ele imitated quickly for being a doop..

  452. jason says:

    – The guy who thinks NATO is extremely important says we should all just move on when Trump openly questions the mutual defense agreement of NATO.”

    I think that is a stupid thing to say, but it doesn’t change the Treaty and Trump is still bound to it.

    I think Trump’s comments on NATO are asinine and I have clearly stated that here many times.

    But I don’t have to agree with his every statement to acknowledge he won the election and is President and the primaries are over.

  453. Paul says:

    454: I wonder what the salary was for the German Chancellor in the 1930s. I bet Hitler could have made a bunch more with a book tour.

  454. mnw says:

    WV SEN:

    Blankenship claims he has enough signatures to qualify for the Nov. GE.

  455. jason says:

    Like I said, I think a national poll of how the Perot vote would have split is garbage.

    I think his vote would have split differently in different states, and most of the close states would have gone to Bush.

    But yep, its just conjecture, but that’s what we do here the best.

  456. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez answers more questions…

    Q. Have you ever commented your position on NATO?

    A. “I as you know am an avid blogger, and so I have stated on many blogs my positions which are what most people are starting to see. But I don’t know if I have recently posted at the NATO blog. I might have years ago, but its not one of my favorite places to post. And that to me is where I tend to come from on this issue.”

  457. jason says:

    Paul and Amoral Scumbag have the exact same sources.

    Maybe they can do 12 hour shifts here with the MSM headlines so they have more free time for MSNBC.

  458. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 18, 2018 at 12:08 pm
    – The guy who thinks NATO is extremely important says we should all just move on when Trump openly questions the mutual defense agreement of NATO.”
    I think that is a stupid thing to say, but it doesn’t change the Treaty and Trump is still bound to it.

    – The treaty is only as good as the person willing to implement it.

  459. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 18, 2018 at 12:32 pm
    Paul and Amoral Scumbag have the exact same sources.
    Maybe they can do 12 hour shifts here with the MSM headlines so they have more free time for MSNBC.

    – I guess snowflake Jason fraud needs to spend some time in his safe space. He just heard news that didn’t come from his pre-approved source and it has upset him. Sad.

  460. Wes says:

    Here’s what isn’t conjecture, Jason:

    GHWB got his ass kicked by almost six points and 202 EVs in 1992 by Bill Clinton, who’s the most popular living former President today. I guess all Amwericans don’t share the sycophantic feelings you, Bitter, and Corey have for the Bush clan.

  461. Wes says:

    Americans*

  462. Robbie says:

    Trump seems to be working off a play sheet Putin gave him on Monday on how to split NATO apart.

    BBC News (World)
    @BBCWorld

    Trump WW3 claim leaves ‘tiny’ Montenegro shocked

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44877718?ocid=socialflow_twitter

  463. Robbie says:

    Walking back that walk back. Trump just can’t get out of his own way.

    Cecilia Vega
    @CeciliaVega

    Just asked @realDonaldTrump if he believes Russia is still targeting the US.
    His answer: “Thank you very much. No”
    This after his own Director of National Intelligence said the threat is still ongoing.

  464. paul says:

    “Paul and Amoral Scumbag have the exact same sources.”

    Jason, I’m not even posting anything political really. I’m just surprised that someone is making a big deal about Putin’s so-called sacrifice to be President of Russia. It is a bit laughable.

  465. Robbie says:

    Trump tomorrow: “I reread the transcript and when I said “no” Russia wasn’t messing with our election system right now, I meant to say “yes”.”

  466. Paul Stocksdale says:

    Jason: At least some of us desire actual conversations on this blog.

    By the way, when is DW done with his Ocasio-Cortez fantasies. He should have gotten himself off by now.

  467. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    404. Bitter said: “I see that Jason still has the idea that the US should have pushed the Red Army that had steamrolled Hitler’s forces back to Moscow at the end of the war in Europe. The American people would have never stood for that as the casualties mounted.

    You can argue that the US should have raced to take Berlin but that would have been a minor prize compared to Eastern Europe. Maybe nuking Moscow would have done the trick but probably not.

    There were bad choices and worse choices to be made at the end of the war. I think the bad choices were made but that does not mean that the US should have made worse choices.”

    Agree with Bitter.

  468. Tina says:

    Gallup finds the Russian hoax not registering as an issue in its polling.

    Jebots to implode.

  469. mnw says:

    Wes

    I saw where you said you would ban The Kindergarten (sic) Kid, who put in an appearance yesterday.

    I would ban ALL the trolls, starting with the frequent flyers who are here now.

    Other posters must love them & want more of their act, though– they come here because they get FED.

  470. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes is an interesting cat. Slavery was merely “wrong” and Bill Clinton was “superior” to GWB. He must use a very different dictionary than the rest of us.

    I wonder if he still takes classes on how to be charismatic.

  471. mnw says:

    488 sb “Kindergarden (sic) Kid”

    Spellcheck got me again.

  472. NYCmike says:

    “and the GOP picking up 2 seats in the Senate best case scenario.”

    -Someone wrote this earlier. I think this is definitely wrong.

    I would say 2 seats is worst case scenario.

  473. Bitterlaw says:

    http://www.internationalkindergarden.ro/kindergarden

    I don’t remember why mnw was so worked up over the German spelling of “kindergarten” as opposed to the English kindergarden.

  474. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw is an interesting cat. Slavery was evil unless Lincoln allowed for it (at which point Bitterlaw will make excuses) and George Bush was “superior” to Clinton despite sitting back and doing nothing for years while Arab radicals slaughtered hundreds of thousands. He must use a very different dictionary than the rest of us.

    I guess lawyers must not be well versed in grammar these days since “different than” is not an acceptable English language construction.

  475. jason says:

    Jason: At least some of us desire actual conversations on this blog.”

    Thank you Paul, I appreciate the recognition.

    Now if you will just stop spouting MSM talking points maybe you can join the conversation.

    It’s not that difficult really, try thinking for yourself instead of having others do the thinking for you.

  476. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Perhaps claims of collusion between a U.S. President and Putin should also focus on Obama.

    Lets not forget that in the presidential debate of 2012, Obama response to Romney’s claim that Russia was the U.S. biggest threat by saying: “the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back because the Cold War’s been over for 20 years.” The leftist press swooned in praise over this comment. Those silly Republican cold warriors were trying to hold onto the past — Putin was now Obama’s friend.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y9oVC-mGW8

    Lets also not forget Obama assured Russian President Medvedev in March 2012 that he wanted some space during the election, and would have more “flexibility” to deal with Russia after his re-election.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE

    What followed in Obama’s second term was Putin took full advantage of Obama’s passivity. They humiliated Obama in Syria, where Obama cowardly backed down after his “line in the sand” comment. The Putin intervened in the Ukraine and took the Crimea back, knowing a weak Obama would do nothing in response.

    The sad irony here is, rather than the Democrats admitting their policies appeased Putin and lead to massive foreign policy failures, they instead are focused solely on Putin releasing Hillary’s private E-mails.

  477. Wes says:

    By the way, Bitter, can you tell us how there were worse Senate Majority Leaders than Harry Reid 70 years before the position was created?

  478. jason says:

    wes, there are no caveats to slavery.

    You look like an ass when you pretend there are.

    Just saying…

  479. Wes says:

    Fair enough, Jason.

    Then maybe Bitter shouldn’t be doing everything in his power to justify Lincoln’s intentionally failing to emancipate any slaves in a document called the Emancipation Proclamation.

    Just saying…

  480. Wobbles says:

    SD, I don’t care that Obama was a Putin puppet, and that Putin ran all over him and humiliated him and America for years.

    I just care that the MSM is pretending that Trump is somehow beholden to Putin when all the evidence is to the contrary.

  481. Diamond Jim says:

    D iamond Jim

  482. Tina says:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07/crowdstrike-analyst-who-ran-forensics-on-dnc-server-used-to-work-for-mueller-at-fbi/

    Crowd strike analyst friends with Fuhrer Mulehead.

    Another reason why the doj will kill these indictments.

    Main issue is no server investigation by fib. Fib failed to protect the crime scene.

  483. Tina says:

    The doj division handling the Fuhrer Mulehead garbage indictments will kill them.

  484. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    448: Paul said: “I hope I’m wrong, but I predict Russia will be moving into a few Eastern European countries in the name of ‘stability’ or ‘protecting’ the Russian minorities in those nations. And in Syria, Russia will “fight ISIS” which will mean killing any citizen who opposes Assad’s regime. And Trump will be pleased with these efforts.”

    These are off-the wall comments. Take a look at my posts in 273, 285 and 290 — Trump is doing more to protect the Ukraine and the Eastern European countries than Obama ever did.

    Did Obama draw an imaginary line in the sand in Syria, and then backing down accomplish anything? Lets not forget that Trump killed several hundred Russians in an airstrike.

    Look at what Trump, and the retired marine corp generals around him, actually do, and not what Trump says — which is, to put it mildly, often ill-advised.

  485. Bitterlaw says:

    496 Sure, Wes. You were too stupid to grasp the point that I made (there were Senators by power and, reputation and seniority who dominated the Senate) and instead got hung up on the term Senate Majority Leader.

    GFY

  486. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez answers more questions…

    Q. What about ICE?

    A. “First of all, ICE is not [U.S. Customs and Border Protection]. When we talk about abolishing ICE, we’re talking about ending family detention. We’re talking about ending an agency and ending a practice and a structure that is not accountable to the U.S. Department of Justice, that often takes on things that look a lot like enforcement activities…We need to occupy every airport. We need to occupy every border. We need to occupy every ICE office until those kids are back with their parents, period….We have to show people that we’re willing to walk the walk and put our money where our mouth is”

  487. Wes says:

    You’re a goddamn liar too–and about the most ignorant person of American history and politics active on this board.

    What Author said was that Harry Reid was the worst SENATE MAJORITY LEADER in history. He clearly stated that. You retorted with one of your normal infantile posts about the antebellum period. Author and I both called you out on your ignorance and stupidity.

    You weakly made an argument to try not to look like the idiot you are that you were only talking about leaders generically when Author had specifically said Senate Majority Leader–which in itself would have made your stupid statement pointless.

    You’re just too stupid and ignorant and pigheaded to admit you didn’t know what the hell you were talking about.

  488. SusyQue says:

    Sorry but It’s just a deflection! The ooo controlled media wasnt to talk about Mr. Trump. What about Hillary the Devil?

    Why isn’t she being investigated for the deaths of the founders of Mylan Pharmaceuticals? They died in an explosion a week ago and the media silence !

    “Over the last several years, Mylan Pharmaceuticals has increased the price of EpiPens by more than 400%. They’re now charging up to $600 for a two-EpiPen set that must be replaced every 12-18 months. This both increases out-of-pocket costs for families and first responders, and contributes to higher premiums for all Americans and their employers,” Clinton said in a statement released to reporters by her campaign.

    “That’s outrageous — and it’s just the latest troubling example of a company taking advantage of its consumers … [I]t’s wrong when drug companies put profits ahead of patients, raising prices without justifying the value behind them

  489. SusyQue says:

    And now they have been killed. But sure the media only wants to discuss Mr. Donald Trump!

  490. Bitterlaw says:

    On another topic, I have now lost 24 pounds since I started my job in January. If anybody is looking to lose weight, I strongly recommend being really anxious and drinking soda instead of eating,

  491. DW says:

    Someone asked about why I keep up with the fake Ocasio-Cortez quotes. Its so when I post a real one, like 505, it illustrates how hard it is to tell the difference.

  492. SusyQue says:

    Did the media forget about collusion with Putin in Uranium Won?

  493. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Scott Walker(R) is in the high 40’s against most of his potential Democrat rivals in his re-election bid for Governor of Wisconsin according to a just released Marquette University Poll.(See Table 3 toward the bottom of the page in the below link of the poll) The man knows how to win in his State!

    https://law.marquette.edu/poll/

  494. lisab says:

    On another topic, I have now lost 24 pounds since I started my job
    —————–

    but … but … what about your job at the mall this christmas?

    santa has to be jolly …

  495. lisab says:

    the usa certainly could have taken eastern europe, but it would have cost a lot of lives.

    it would have required the usa to cut off all fuel and arms supplies to the russians sometime after d-day, and a lot more soldiers in our army. it might have required the usa to use parts of the german army against the russians, which the usa public probably was not willing to do

    keep in mind that at the time, late 1944-early 1945, few people knew about the atomic bomb and iwo jima had not happened yet, so it was a plausible expectation that the war against japan could go on for several more years, and it was hoped by some that russia would supply the manpower to invade japan itself

  496. DW says:

    posted at RRH

    5th Circuit Court of Appeals:

    US Senate just voted 50-49 to confirm Andrew Oldham

    One vacancy remaining to be filled on 5th Circuit

    https://twitter.com/CraigCaplan/status/1019655706826375168

    “Moderate” Dems as Manchin, Heitkamp and Donnelly voted NO to confirm.

  497. Bitterlaw says:

    Somebody who described slavery as “wrong” and refused multiple chance to call it evil accuses me of being ignorant of history? I love this place,

  498. Cash Cow TM says:

    Cardinals–clan raids
    Cubs–Bucs (!)
    Indians–I in sand
    Marlins–Slim ran
    Pirates–traipse
    Padres–Drapes
    Giants–a sting
    Rockies–I socker
    Phillies–Phil lies

  499. jason says:

    I hate not having a dog in a big fight where people get to call each other the most ignorant poster here.

    Sniff….

  500. SusyQue says:

    They only want to talk about the Trump family? What do they think about Chelsee Clinton marrying Geoge Soros’s nephew?

  501. paul says:

    Wes and Bitterlaw at each other

    Jason and Robbie in the usual fight

    DW in the corner with his pics of Ocasio-Cortez

    Tina’s hot for Pooty

    And I can’t tell if it is a real SusyQue or a parody

  502. SusyQue says:

    Did you see what Anthony Bourdain said about the Clintons?

    And now he’s supposadly hang himself? I doubt it! The Lord knows!

  503. SusyQue says:

    How soon we forget about Vince Foster?

  504. SusyQue says:

    Seth Rich?

  505. SusyQue says:

    Owners of Mylan Pharmaceutical?

  506. Paul says:

    Robin Williams had some dirt on Bill Clinton, I was told.

  507. Tina says:

    Washington Examiner
    Washington Examiner
    @dcexaminer
    Russia wants to charge former Ambassador Michael McFaul and several U.S. intelligence officials with financial crimes

  508. Tina says:

    Nick Short ??
    @PoliticalShort
    “John Brennan started out his adulthood by voting for the communist party presidential candidate. He is now ending his career by showing himself to be the most biased, bigoted, over the top, hyperbolic, and unhinged Director of the CIA we have ever had.” -@RandPaul.

  509. jason says:

    I guess socialism is for other people…

    “Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is being hailed as the new face of the Democratic Party after vanquishing Queens party boss Joe Crowley in Tuesday’s primary, but one former co-worker isn’t jumping on her bandwagon.

    Most of the staff at Flats Fix, the East 16th Street taco and tequila bar, say nice things about Sandy, as they knew her for the four years she worked there, until she quit six months ago to run for Congress.

    But one waitress has a bad memory of working with Ocasio-Cortez, 28, as Ocasio-Cortez tended bar during the very busy Cinco de Mayo celebration in 2017.

    At the end of the night, when it came time to split the $560 in tips she had gotten at the bar, Ocasio-Cortez gave the waitress only $50. After the waitress complained to her manager, her take was doubled to $100, a source said.

    “It says so much about her character,” said my source. “From that point on, I wouldn’t talk to her. I couldn’t look at her.”

  510. ssq says:

    Parody.

    I am the real ssq.

  511. ssq says:

    The time I have spent away has not made me smarter, as you can tell.

  512. jason says:

    “John Brennan started out his adulthood by voting for the communist party presidential candidate. He is now ending his career by showing himself to be the most biased, bigoted, over the top, hyperbolic, and unhinged Director of the CIA we have ever had.” -@RandPaul.

    Hey NYC, I finally agree with something Rand Paul said.

    It was bound to happen, so I am not going to beat myself up about it.

    I will worry if it happens again though.

  513. DW says:

    18 Dems voted YES for ICE and 133 Dems voted ‘Present’ giving up their chance to vote No.

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez hardest hit.

  514. jason says:

    What about Hillary the Devil?”

    Wasn’t his name Lucifer?

  515. jason says:

    How soon we forget about Vince Foster?”

    At this stage its more like how long do we remember him?

  516. Tina says:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07/wow-more-fakenews-white-house-disputes-abc-hack-says-trump-was-not-even-speaking-to-her/

    Abc reporter caught lying. Pretty clear that he was not even looking at her and was answering a question from Anithwr reporter

  517. DW says:

    WV Senate

    Trafalgar Group (R-best pollster of 2016 and it wasn’t even close)

    Morrisey 40
    Manchin 50

  518. Blobbie says:

    You are all a bunch of Trump collaborators!

  519. DW says:

    RRH poster regarding Trafalgar Group:

    “It’s a joke pollster, but Manchin clearly ahead.”

    That’s one twisted mind right there. Trafalgar Group crushed all other polling firms on 2016 election night. Only one to predict Trump’s MI win. They were right on NC. Right on OH. Right on FL. They stood absolutely ALONE saying Trump would win PA–by one point.

    They weren’t perfect, in that they had NV wrong, but wow, they had huge success after being laughed at in the days leading up to the election.

  520. jason says:

    This woman could be dumber than susyque.

    It’s a pretty well known fact you cannot bring food in that’s not in a can or jar or at least packaged.

    So 2 roast chickens in your bag is already going to call attention to it. Especially when the stuffing is heroin.

    Maybe she thought the dogs can’t smell heroin if its surrounded by chicken.

    “Investigators have arrested a New Jersey woman after she allegedly tried to bring heroin through airport security in packages resembling cooked chicken.

    Sixty-one-year-old Emma Soriano of Passaic was apprehended Sunday after landing at John F. Kennedy International Airport with nearly 10 pounds of heroin worth upwards of $300,000 in street value.

    Soriano, a U.S. citizen, was reportedly returning to New York on a flight from Mexico City when U.S. Customs and Border Protection found the 9.7 pounds of heroin in her luggage.”

  521. jason says:

    Hey Blobbie, go screw yourself, most of here are Trump Chumps.

  522. Robbie says:

    Can you imagine the outrage Jason fraud, Tinfoil, NYCmike, and the rest would be expressing if Obama threatened to hand over GWB’s Russian ambassador to Putin on fake charges?

    John Harwood
    @JohnJHarwood

    WH press sec Sanders acknowledged that Putin talked to Trump about his interest in prosecuting financier Bill Browder and former US ambassador Michael McFaul. she declined to rule out US cooperation in that effort, saying Trump would consult his national security team

  523. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    July 18, 2018 at 1:49 pm
    SD, I don’t care that Obama was a Putin puppet, and that Putin ran all over him and humiliated him and America for years.
    I just care that the MSM is pretending that Trump is somehow beholden to Putin when all the evidence is to the contrary.

    – Jason fraud, you need to wipe your mouth off. You’ve got orange all over your lips.

  524. Tina says:

    Browdwr is not a us citizen, dumb sheot.

  525. Tina says:

    Browder could be indicted for funneling money to Hillary since he is not a us citizen,

  526. Tina says:

    Sebastian Gorka DrG
    Sebastian Gorka DrG
    @SebGorka
    Not only is @JohnBrennan a treasonous slime-ball who was an ideological ally of our sworn enemies during the Cold War, he is a certifiable imbecile:

    Hey Johnny, it was a PRESS CONFERENCE.

    What “crime” did the President commit at the PRESS CONFERENCE??

    Asking for a Patriot.

    Sea bass destroys Comrade.

  527. Tina says:

    rces Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    @NolteNC
    ·
    53m
    According to media, Dems, and NeverTrump it is TREASONOUS to be skeptical of same intel community that missed the Berlin Wall, 9/11; that bungled us into Iraq, that used a phony dossier to frame Trump, that leaks, that lies under oath (Comey, Brennen, Clapper).

    How unAmerican.

    Deep sheot wants a shooting war withRussia,

  528. Robbie says:

    Noah Rothman
    ?
    Verified account
    @NoahCRothman

    The suggestion here is the White House is considering offering up activists and an opposing party’s public servants who offend hostile regimes. This is a horrendous precedent. Even contemplating this is unacceptable. It should not even be entertained. Shut this down.

  529. Robbie says:

    Sebastian Gorka! LOLOLOLOLOLOL! The guy who faked his terrorism degree. Next thing you know Tinfoil will be taking financial advice from Jacob Wohl who was barred for life from futures trading because of fraud.

  530. Phil says:

    I don’t know who Gorka is and don’t care, but his characterization of Comrade Brennan is dead on. If it isn’t, kindly tell us what part of his characterization is not true.

  531. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 18, 2018 at 5:43 pm
    Browder could be indicted for funneling money to Hillary since he is not a us citizen,

    – I wondered how long it would take for a gutter snipe like Tinfoil to start echoing Putin’s talking points about Bill Browder.

    Bill Browder was born in Chicago, Illinois and claims duel citizenship with Great Britain. You are aware Chicago, Illinois is in the United States, right Tinfoil? Or did they not teach you geography at Trump University?

    Also, you are aware your boy Putin had Browder’s Russian lawyer arrested and tortured to death, right? Or did you not see that while reading Pravda or watching RT?

    I’ve got some news for you, Tinfoil. Putin is a liar who lies. Browder didn’t give any money to Hillary. Shocker, but Putin lied, you dummy.

    You really are a useful idiot.

  532. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 18, 2018 at 6:10 pm
    I don’t know who Gorka is and don’t care, but his characterization of Comrade Brennan is dead on. If it isn’t, kindly tell us what part of his characterization is not true.

    – He’s a regular on FoxNews. He’s on Hannity all of the time.

  533. Robbie says:

    But trade wars are good and easy to win. Trump said so.

    Erica Werner
    @ericawerner

    As Trump trade war hits Missouri, “We’re in a situation where we’re fighting against our own country.”

    https://t.co/HajDFi83ku

  534. Robbie says:

    I noticed the daily Rasmussen job approval numbers haven’t been posted the last few days. Any reason?

  535. Tina says:

    And McFaul was hanging around Vita, you know the Russian who met wi Donnie Jr.

  536. Tina says:

    Dumb sheot, browser cannot be a dual citizen,l
    He renounced his us citinzenship in 1998 in order to become a us citizen,

    It would be up to dumb dumb May to extradite him to Russia.

  537. Tina says:

    2] He gave up his U.S. citizenship in 1998 to avoid paying taxes related to foreign investment.[3] After having business in Russia for ten years, Browder was refused entry to Russia in 2005 as a threat to national security; he has said it was because he exposed corruption.

    This is from wiki but Google it.

    Trump,should stay far away from Browser.

  538. Tina says:

    We also have treaties that require us to do so.

    That is why pooty poot mentioned it and stated that we are free to interview the 12 indicted Russians,

    The media claimed that Mukehead did not respond,

    He did not respond because he turned it over to the international doj division. They will squash this in no time because of the fibs negligence in not reviewing the server and the crowd strike guy is personal friends with Fuhrer.

  539. Tina says:

    There is also no extradiction treaty between the us and Russia,

    So your concerns are noted, but not relevant.

  540. mnw says:

    BL 499

    There is only ONE correct spelling of “kindergarten” in ENGLISH, & the execrable slimeball TIPW is not GERMAN! He just can’t spell, & he’s an arrogant, semi-literate azalea. Also Messy, who spells “disintegrates” with three “i”s. Is she excused too, because that’s how you spell it on Mars?

    I’m not going to be lectured by illiterates.

    Questions?

  541. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    In 2012, when Romney referred to Russia as our No. 1 geopolitical foe, Obama scoffed at him and the New York Times “called Romney’s comment in 2012 “reckless and unworthy of a major presidential contender.””
    ____________

    “MSNBC’s Kasie Hunt asked Utah Republican Senate candidate Mitt Romney in a new interview if he feels “vindicated” for his 2012 remark that Russia was “our No. 1 geopolitical foe,” a comment that drew criticism and mockery at the time.
    * * *
    Obama memorably quipped at the third 2012 debate to Romney that the “1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back.” John Kerry called it “preposterous.” MSNBC host Andrea Mitchell echoed Obama’s slam on Romney at one point, calling it a “throwback to the Cold War. We work with Russia all the time.”
    The New York Times editorial board called Romney’s comment in 2012 “reckless and unworthy of a major presidential contender.” A little more than five years later, the same editorial board ripped Trump for his “dangerous indifference to Russia.”

    https://freebeacon.com/national-security/msnbc-to-romney-feel-vindicated-calling-russia-geopolitical-foe/

  542. Robbie says:

    Fox News
    @FoxNews

    .@Billbrowder: “The idea that the White House, that @realDonaldTrump, would be considering handing these people over, and me over, to the Russians, is just appalling. It’s effectively treason to hand over patriotic people who’ve been trying to do the right thing.” #TheStory

  543. mnw says:

    SDC

    So, I guess the msm is biased then, & a bunch of leftwing whores. Who knew?

  544. Tina says:

    I guess we are in the muh handover phase.

  545. Tina says:

    Obama also scoffed at Quittens.

    But using Jebot rules, Obama also said, dimitri, I will have greater flexibility after my last election. Tell pooty poot.

    He could be bribed.

  546. Tina says:

    Faux News should first note that Browder is not a us citizen,l

    Even if he were, we would have to allow the Russians to interview him.

    But, there is no extradiction treaty.

    So muh handover is fake,

  547. Tina says:

    If I still,had cable, faux has only a few good hosts.

    Oann is better than faux.

  548. Tina says:

    The same goes for the indicted Russians.

    They can never be extradited- there is no treaty.

    However, we have a right to interview them.

    Fuhrer Mulehead cannot though since he transferred ownership of this matter to the special doj division, which will have to punt for the reasons that I noted.

    There is no case when. The FBI failed to obtain e server and the crowd strike guy is bff with Mukehead.

  549. Tina says:

    Paul Sperry
    @paulsperry_
    ·
    5h
    BREAKING: In June 2016, US intelligence–including NSA, FBI & CIA–knew that the computer networks of BOTH presidential candidates–Hillary Clinton AND Donald Trump (as well as GOP PACs)-were targeted by Russian spies. Yet now that information is being COVERED UP by DOJ & Mueller

  550. lisab says:

    It’s effectively treason to hand over patriotic people who’ve been trying to do the right thing.
    —————-

    patriotic people who renounced his citizenship?

  551. jason says:

    Here is something you won’t see Amoral Scumbag post:

    “RNC emails were stolen through the same spearphishing scams used against Democrats,” a senior U.S. intelligence official familiar with the investigation told RealClearInvestigations. “In fact, prominent Republicans were targeted and similarly victimized by the disclosure of sensitive emails during the campaign.”

    The indictment acknowledges this on page 13: “The Conspirators also released documents they had stolen in other spearphishing operations, including those they had conducted in 2015 that collected emails from individuals affiliated with the Republican Party.”

    But that is the only mention of Russian attacks against Republicans in the 29-page indictment that focuses on the targeting and victimization of key Democrats…

    In fact, U.S. intelligence officials say the attackers penetrated GOP organizations at both the national and state levels, as well as the individual level, and successfully “exfiltrate” Republican emails during the 2016 election cycle. They add that Trump officials themselves were targeted by Russian intelligence late in 2016, often by phishing schemes, in which fraudulent emails seemingly from trusted sources (e.g. the government, banks or Google) are sent to gain access to personal information.

    Mueller’s office would not say whether the criminal breaches of GOP organizations carried out by the same bad Russian actors were investigated by his team with the same level of forensic analysis and scrutiny as the Democrat-related cybercrimes.

    “We’ll decline to comment beyond the indictment,” Special Counsel’s Office spokesman Peter Carr said.

  552. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina does not watch Fox News but has an opinion about the quality of the hosts? I love this place.

  553. Phil says:

    Well, I saw a clip of Wolf on CNN interviewing Rand Paul yesterday and it was the biggest bunch of blatant bias I have ever seen. The guy talked over Paul’s answers and debated anything that came out of his guest’s mouth. Soooo, in the case of CNN’s hosts I’d say they are sh*t…..and yeah, I watched it. Wolf is a leftist, POS, dick.

  554. Bitterlaw says:

    There is nothing else on so I am watching the ESPYs. QB Jim Kelly is being honored for perseverance. He now has cancer. Brave man. I forgot he also had a disabled son who died when he was 8. Football seems so unimportant now. Seems like a good man.

  555. JC says:

    Wow. This should be required reading for both the left AND the right: https://spectator.org/everyone-is-smart-except-trump/

  556. Phil says:

    Jim Kelly is indeed one of the good guys. Has been in a fight with aggressive oral cancer for about four or so years now. Lot of pain and suffering from what I understand.

  557. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag, who gave Obama a pass on all his lies and groveling and apologizing for America for 8 years, now wants to pretend he is outraged, I tell you, outraged, about fake news reports on Trump, who has actually put America first, like it or not.

  558. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag hardest hit.

    Buhhh, Mika’s face…

    “Senate Republicans broke a record on Wednesday for the number of appeals court judges confirmed during a president’s first two years.
    Senators voted 50-49 on Andrew Oldham’s nomination to be a judge on the 5th Circuit, making him Trump’s 23rd circuit court judge confirmed since he took office last year.”

  559. jason says:

    If you renounce your citizenship you are not a dusl citizen.

    You can have dual citizenship, no problem, but not if you officially renounce your citizenship.

  560. Phil says:

    Confirmed 50-49 with the three “MODERATES” Manchin, Heidi, and Donnelly voting with Schumer.

    Yeah, moderates…..sure they are.

    Phonies.

  561. Tina says:

    Yes, I have opinion on fox hosts.

    Look at shel smith, mayhem Kelly, Geraldine Rivera, , etc.

    They are sheot. I know mayhem is not with faux,

    That feed from faux is also stupid.

    Browder is not an American Citizen. we have no say in what England does.

    There is also no extradiction.

    Thus, the concern by the paper plane crashed are unwarranted

  562. NYCmike says:

    JC, nice link.

    Read this over and over…….and then Bitterlaw can tell us again how much he hates Trump.

    “In his first eighteen months in Washington, this man has turned around the American economy, brought us near full employment, reduced the welfare and food stamp lines, wiped out ISIS in Raqqa, moved America’s Israel embassy to Jerusalem, successfully has launched massive deregulation of the economy, has opened oil exploration in ANWR, is rebuilding the military massively, has walked out of the useless Paris Climate Accords that were negotiated by America’s amateurs who always get snookered, canned the disastrous Iran Deal, exited the bogus United Nations Human Rights Council. He has Canada and Mexico convinced he will walk out of NAFTA if they do not pony up, and he has the Europeans convinced he will walk out of NATO if they don’t stop being the cheap and lazy parasitic penny-pinchers they are. He has slashed income taxes, expanded legal protections for college students falsely accused of crimes, has taken real steps to protect religious freedoms and liberties promised in the First Amendment, boldly has taken on the lyme-disease-quality of a legislative mess that he inherited from Reagan-Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama on immigration, and has appointed a steady line of remarkably brilliant conservative federal judges to sit on the district courts, the circuit appellate courts, and the Supreme Court.”

  563. NYCmike says:

    Is Robbie going on and on about a guy who renounced his United States citizenship?

    Am I reading that correctly?

    I don’t think Trump should make that deal, but I also don’t think Trump should refuse it either. The MSM will simply say he is refusing it because he is worried about what the GRU agents might say. It is a lose-lose situation for him, so just leave it in limbo.

  564. NYCmike says:

    “Tina does not watch Fox News but has an opinion about the quality of the hosts? I love this place.”

    -Have you heard of Youtube?

    Have you been to blogs, like Instapundit, Drudge, Gateway, etc….where they link to video of hosts and people from various outlets?

  565. Tina says:

    Yes, the Jebot is defending Browder, a. Non citizen.
    Lethe Jebot also loves illegals,

    Illegals can now vote in st local elections,

  566. Bitterlaw says:

    Did you know that watching something for an extended period of time gives a better sense of the contents than watching cherry picked YouTube clips?

  567. Tina says:

    WRAY: FBI has Chinese espionage investigations open in all 50 states. Says Chinese spying is “most significant” espionage threat facing U.S. (link: http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/18/christopher-wray-china-significant-spy-threat/) dailycaller.com/2018/07/18/chr… @dailycaller

    Jebot wrong ahead.

    China is worse than Russia on espionage

  568. NYCmike says:

    “Did you know that watching something for an extended period of time…..”

    -You go ahead and watch Maddow…..I’ll pass. I have seen her enough to know what she is like.

  569. Tina says:

    Did you know that if you cut cable,you can save $72 a month in the sf Bay Area?

    Did you know?

  570. lisab says:

    Yes, the Jebot is defending Browder, a. Non citizen.
    ————————

    not just a non-citizen, someone who renounced his citizenship

  571. mnw says:

    1) The “3-state CA initiative” has been kicked off the ballot by the CA Sup Ct. (It was going down to a lopsided defeat anyway.)

    2) Oregon WILL have an initiative to repeal its “sanctuary state” status on the NOV GE ballot.

  572. Bitterlaw says:

    Did you know that I will never cut cable? I think my bill is over $250 a month (but internet is included). I don’t drink so I can justify using money on cable.

  573. Tina says:

    The Jebot had a bad day.

    Fell for a bogus abc report.

    Claimed Browder was a us citizen.

    Wanted a cabinet official to resign.

  574. Tina says:

    Forgot, also claimed that Russia was only responsible for espionage.

    Completely overlooks China being #1 in that department,

  575. Blobbie says:

    Tina,

    I watch MSNBC so you don’t have to.

  576. Bitterlaw says:

    When there is an election or debate or big speech I switch back and forth between the news channels. I find it more interesting to hear opinions from those I completely disagree with than those who agree with me.

  577. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    588. “Did you know that if you cut cable,you can save $72 a month in the sf Bay Area?”

    What do you replace it with? Where I am at we are looking at Google Webpass, which is cheaper than the local cable, and the internet is amazingly fast. But it does not have a television component, just internet. You would have to stream TV, which a lot of people do not want to do.

  578. Tina says:

    Above all, Jebot falsely claimed that trump would extradite somebody to .russia.

    No such treaty exists with pooty poot.

  579. Tina says:

    Cut the cord. There are alternatives, Sdc,

    I could not support Att, which in turn supports drats

  580. mnw says:

    I have cable & appx 5 TVs. I watch a few Blues games a year, & occasionally something like Kavanaugh’s introduction by Trump. That’s IT.

    If the Cards didn’t suk, I might watch some of those too. But I haven’t for 3 years & counting.

  581. NYCmike says:

    DC……sucks!

  582. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    598. “Cut the cord. There are alternatives, Sdc,”

    Not that I can think of. I live in an urban area, and the building cannot have a satellite dish for several reason, including its historic designation. The cable monopoly is Cox Communications. Agree that AT&T is awful. Am not aware of any other services that provide both internet and television.

  583. Tim says:

    #595:
    Me too, Bitterlaw……..

  584. Tim says:

    Robbie calls Tina “Tinfoil”? I bet that wasn’t exactly well-received. LOL

  585. Tim says:

    So……….what are today’s talking points about the Trump-Putin Summit?

    It’s all Obama’s fault? LOL

    Enough of my nonsense. You folks have a fine day………

  586. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #604
    Still pining for your girlfriend, “Senator” Michelle Nunn(D-GA), I see. LOL
    How has your Messiah Obama’s Iran Nuclear Agreement and Paris Climate Accord worked-out so far?
    Dim Tim strikes-out again!

  587. Tina says:

    Yes, obumbler a fault for doing nothing about the so called Russian interference or meddling in 2016.

    Why did Susan rice give a stand down order to the It chief?

  588. Tina says:

    While the jebots are looking for the latest shiny object, the number of trump appointments to the courts of appeal broke a record.

    As we get closer the intitial number for 2nd quarter gap, the Drats wil only get uglier.

  589. Tina says:

    https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/clintons-emails-fbi-foreign-entity-gohmert/

    Hillarys emails ended up with another foreign entity, not the Russians,

    Fib knew but did nothing since Pete the Cheat was involved.

    Fib became obamas secret police.

    And Pete the chest, comedy, McCabe, etc. we’re Hillarys dirty cops

  590. Tina says:

    John Cardillo Retweeted
    Ryan Saavedra ??
    Ryan Saavedra ??
    @RealSaavedra
    Trump on former CIA Director @JohnBrennan: “I have no confidence in a guy like Brennan. I think he’s a total low life.”

  591. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie
    If Lisa Page won over the high-strung Congressman,Louie Gohmert(R-TX), with her closed-door testimony, then you would agree with me that The Deep State must be in panic. Right?

    “Rep. Louis Gohmert, also of the Freedom Caucus agreed that Page “has given us more insights to who was involved in what.” (H/T: Powerline Blog)

  592. jason says:

    I find it more interesting to hear opinions from those I completely disagree with than those who agree with me.”

    Sorry, I don’t watch fake news anymore. It’s like saying you read Pravda to get a “different opinion”.

    There is a huge difference between a legitimate difference of opinion and orchestrated propaganda.

  593. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #604- Dim Tim
    You may be too dense to understand this economic report, but at least try:

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jobless-claims-sink-to-lowest-level-since-end-of-1969-2018-07-19

    These are the important things in life, not your Liberal clap-trap!

  594. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 18, 2018 at 3:21 pm
    Somebody who described slavery as “wrong” and refused multiple chance to call it evil accuses me of being ignorant of history? I love this place,

    I always thought lawyers practicing in English-speaking countries would be able to speak English fluently. I was wrong. Obviously sending off a proof of purchase from a Cracker Jack box is the only thing required to get a law license in PA.

    Here are all definitions of ignorant listed by dictionary.com:

    ignorant
    [ig-ner-uh?nt]
    SynonymsExamplesWord Origin
    See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com
    adjective
    lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned:
    an ignorant man.
    lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact:
    ignorant of quantum physics.
    uninformed; unaware.

    There is no definition saying refusing to use a subjective word insisted on by another person.

    Of course I would note slavery is clearly not so evil to you as you pretend since you go out of your way to make excuses for why Lincoln emancipated no slaves in the Emancipation Proclamation and have never once posted so much as a sentence condemning slavery currently extant in the world–largely because you can’t connect it to the true object of your hate–the American South.

  595. DW says:

    Far be it from me to enter into the slavery debate, but if I recall the history book correctly, wasn’t the emancipation proclamation by Lincoln only for the southern states and did not apply to slave states that stayed in the union?

    I seem to recall the slogan used in the textbook was something like he proclaimed the freedom of the slaves that he couldn’t free, but wouldn’t free the slaves that he could.

    Had he freed the slaves that he could, then he worried those states would defect to the confederacy as well.

  596. Wes says:

    From RRH’s new mod:

    JON HENRIK GILHUUS
    July 19, 2018 at 8:40 am | In reply to Ryan_in_SEPA
    The ever expanding RRH Empire…

    The mystery of government is not how Washington works but how to make it stop.
    – P.J. O’Rourke

    Considering the mods tend to be a bunch of egoists with Napoleon complexes, that’s an appropriate statement.

  597. Wes says:

    That’s my point, DW. It didn’t do what it’s name said. Bitterlaw refers to slavery as evil. Fair enough. Human bondage is a blight on civilization. However, he proves entirely hypocritical when he not only refuses to criticize Lincoln for freeing no slaves in the Emancipation Proclamation but actually makes excuses for it.

    It just shows Bitterlaw is a brainwashed automaton who can find no fault with politicians such as Lincoln and GWB he’s decided to deify.

  598. Wes says:

    Ack! Somehow Autocorrect put an apostrophe in my possessive “its.” Damnit.

  599. Bitterlaw says:

    DW- Lincoln set the goal of freeing slaves. However, Wes never understands that if the slaves were freed immediately in the border states then those states would join the Confederacy and the war would be lost – ensuring that no slaves would be freed. Wes would apparently be ok with that outcome.

    I yield the floor to Wes. Rant in 3…2…1…

  600. Wes says:

    So when did the Constitution grant Lincoln the right to unilaterally pass a constitutional amendment, Bitter? You keep claiming Lincoln freed the slaves, but I still haven’t found the means whereby he personally codified the 13th Amendment. I guess in your time getting a history degree in college, you learned something no one else ever did about American history.

  601. DW says:

    That Trafalgar Group poll of WV also found that if Manchin votes for Kavanaugh he wins re-election in a landslide, but if he votes NO, then the race is a tossup.

    Maybe Morrisey should run ads featuring Manchin’s two NO votes yesterday on Circuit Court appointments. That is if the people of WV are intelligent enough to understand the importance of the Circuit courts.

  602. Wes says:

    Looking at this, I see no mention of Lincoln’s name among the men who actually proposed and drafted the 13th Amendment:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Proposal_and_ratification

    Of course wikipedia isn’t always right, but I’m sure if Lincoln had drafted at least a version of the proposed amendment, he would be listed somewhere, wouldn’t he?

  603. jason says:

    Ok, so Amoral Scumbag finally has a defender here.

    Tim, “yeah Ted Kennedy killed a woman but didn’t a Republican get caught jaywalking”?

  604. Wes says:

    DW, West Virginians voted for Manchin in 2010 claiming they were casting their votes to oppose Obama. Manchin then proceeded to vote with Obama on EVERY substantive issue. We’re not exactly dealing with a high average intellect among voters here.

  605. Wes says:

    Defending Ted Kennedy was never one of Tim’s best moments.

  606. Wes says:

    DCXXV

  607. Wes says:

    I could be wrong, but I believe Tim was more appalled a 16-year-old Laura Welch (nee, Bush) ran over a friend than that Ted Kennedy committed DUI manslaughter against Mary Jo Kopechne and used his political connections to avoid required prison time for his crime.

  608. jason says:

    “Looking at this, I see no mention of Lincoln’s name among the men who actually proposed and drafted the 13th Amendment”

    I think this should get straw argument of the year.

    LOL.

  609. Bitterlaw says:

    Delicate Flower pushes the big lie again. I never said that Lincoln freed the slaves. I said he set the goal of freeing the slaves and prosecuted the war to crush the Confederacy (the states where most slaves were owned). Wes continues to cling to the idea that Lincoln just sat in the White House doing nothing while the idea of Emancipation had nothing to do with him. He thinks the 13th Amendment just magically appeared out of nowhere.

  610. jason says:

    I don’t think wes is ever going to win an argument where his point is “slavery is bad, but….”

  611. jason says:

    Tim was more appalled a 16-year-old Laura Welch (nee, Bush) ran over a friend than that Ted Kennedy committed DUI manslaughter against Mary Jo Kopechne and used his political connections to avoid required prison time for his crime.”

    Yep, Tim has always been the king of false moral equivalencies here.

  612. Wes says:

    Actually you’re quite the liar, Bitter. I never said Lincoln sat in the White House doing nothing. Quite the opposite. I’ve said Lincoln was known for his support for abolition at least back to his time in Congress in the 1840s. By the way, I posted a link detailing the drafting and ratification of the 13th Amendment.

    It went like this:

    A member of Congress proposed it. Congress debated it. Both houses of Congress passed it by the requisite two-thirds margins. The state legislatures then ratified it by the requisite three-quarters margins.

    That’s a far cry from magically appearing out of nowhere like the will-o’-the-wisp known as Saddam’s 2003 WMDs–which conveniently are as elusive as the Loch Ness Monster and Mokele Mbembe a full 15 years after we invaded.

  613. Wes says:

    Actually, Jason, can you find where I ever said that? You can’t. It’s a lie just as many of your comments are when you have nothing to make a point on.

    Honestly unless you or Bitter brings it up, I don’t even think about slavery or Lincoln at all. Of course I’ll take the two of you seriously when you find the time to condemn non-Confederate slavery, but since we all know that’s never going to happen, I’m not really going to worry about it.

  614. Wes says:

    My one statement providing any commentary on slavery today:

    Human bondage is a blight on civilization.

    That just proves Jason and Bitterlaw are pathological liars.

  615. Wes says:

    Since Bitterlaw has a problem with understanding the language, I’ll even post the meaning of the word “blight” for him:

    blight
    [blahyt]
    SynonymsExamplesWord Origin
    See more synonyms on Thesaurus.com
    noun
    Plant Pathology.
    the rapid and extensive discoloration, wilting, and death of plant tissues.
    a disease so characterized.
    any cause of impairment, destruction, ruin, or frustration:
    Extravagance was the blight of the family.
    the state or result of being blighted or deteriorated; dilapidation; decay:
    urban blight.

  616. jason says:

    Maybe running on SCOTUS is not the best strategy for Dems in the mid-terms.

    “Fifty-three percent of Americans approve of the way the highest court in the United States is dispensing its duties, a new survey showed Wednesday. The positive rating is the highest for the U.S. Supreme Court in nine years and an increase from September’s rating of 49 percent. The poll was taken after several controversial court rulings at the end of the 2017-2018 term, and after President Donald Trump nominated Judge Brett Kavanaugh to replace retiring Justice Anthony Kennedy. Gallup found the respondents’ opinions about the high court are influenced by political ideology — with 72 percent of Republicans, 38 percent of Democrats and 52 percent of self-identified independents voicing approval of the current court.”

  617. Chicon says:

    There are people who are okay with slavery outside of the American south, but are for it elsewhere?

  618. jason says:

    I’ll take the two of you seriously when you find the time to condemn non-Confederate slavery,”

    LOL

    This is like saying you can’t condemn the Holocaust because pogroms were also killing Jews.

    wes needs to stop digging.

  619. Chicon says:

    636 – doh, get me coffee. ..

    but against it in the American South.

  620. jason says:

    That just proves Jason and Bitterlaw are pathological liars.”

    I am in good company, Bitter’s view on slavery matches mine exactly.

    There are no if, and or buts when it comes to slavery.

    Period.

  621. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Trump’s approval rating at Rasmussen(less) today is up a tick at 45% from 44% yesterday.
    Where is mwn? He usually owns Rasmussen(less)!

  622. Wes says:

    I’m glad you both have the attitude that slavery is all right if allowed by Lincoln or if unconnected to the American South of 150 years ago.

    That attitude doesn’t really match up with your no “ifs, ands, or buts” statement in 639, Jason.

  623. Bitterlaw says:

    In his refusal to use the correct word – evil/ to describe slavery, Wes now resorts to “blight” rather than “wrong.”

    Slavery in the North and border states was also evil but had to be left alone in the greater cause of winning the war and ending it in the entire country.

  624. Wes says:

    Of course this pair of GWB-worshiping dumbasses is far too easy to troll on this issue. I don’t even have to mention slavery personally–which honestly I don’t think about much because it has no relevance to contemporary American society–and these two idiots will fall all over themselves to try to peg me as a supporter of it regardless of the actual issues being discussed.

  625. jason says:

    Did you know that I will never cut cable?”

    I don’t have cable to watch left wing propaganda.

    I am addicted to Deadliest Catch, Wicked Tuna, Gold Rush, etc.

  626. jason says:

    “Blight”….

    Zzzzzzzz…..

  627. jason says:

    I think wes is learning with Tim.

    I refuse to call slavery for what it is but you like GWB.

    Okayyyyy……

  628. jason says:

    I’m glad you both have the attitude that slavery is all right if allowed by Lincoln”

    “Allowed by Lincoln”

    So much dishonesty in that statement does not even merit a response.

  629. jason says:

    The gift that keeps on giving…

    “I thought it was funny because the alt-right went haywire after that,” Ocasio-Cortez says.

    Asked about her “Israeli occupation” remark.

  630. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw and Jason now say I support slavery because I call it a blight. If these guys had half a brain between them, they’d be dangerous.

    As it is, I truly feel sorry for any of Bitter’s clients with the poor representation this pigeon English speaker must give.

  631. Wes says:

    Ever actually read the Emancipation Proclamation, Jason?

    Clearly not. It explicitly says all slaves are to be freed in states not recognizing the Union anymore while stating slaves in DC, DE, MD, TN, WV, KY, MO, and parts of the Confederacy occupied by the Union are not to be freed.

    That’s a textbook case of allowing slavery, but I wouldn’t expect someone who thinks GWB was a great President to understand such a simple fact.

  632. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe Wes should feel sorry for the woman who still thinks he is going to marry her.

  633. jason says:

    Bitterlaw and Jason now say I support slavery because I call it a blight.”

    I never said you support slavery, I say you make excuses for it and false moral equivalencies when discussing the subject.

    Stop playing victim.

  634. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag hardest hit.

    80% of Republicans don’t have a problem with Trump’s performance at summit and surprisingly neither do a third of Indies.

    What that means that Trump’s base is not very influenced by fake news.

    https://www.axios.com/republicans-poll-donald-trump-press-conference-putin-5776322f-a483-4e21-b50c-028799b08367.html

  635. Wes says:

    Well, Jason, find one excuse I’ve made for slavery, Jason. You and Bitterlaw are the ones defnding the codification of slavery in the Emancipation Proclamation, not I.

    By the way, here are your words followed by Bitter’s:

    There are no if, and or buts when it comes to slavery.

    Period.

    Slavery in the North and border states was also evil but had to be left alone in the greater cause of winning the war and ending it in the entire country

    So, no ifs, and, or buts, but your ass buddy put a very significant “but” into his comment. That really doesn’t square with your theoretical zero-tolerance position on slavery.

  636. mnw says:

    My Civil War contribution:

    The Southern opinion leaders rushed to war unnecessarily. We all know how fast Congress moves, especially on controversial issues opposed by a substantial minority. GLACIALLY.

    Absent secession, the South could’ve probably kept its beloved slavery until about 1930. The Southern states’ decision to secede seems especially rash considering the North’s obvious material advantages if it came to war.

    Seems like nobody in the South ever said, “Wait a minute boys! All Lincoln is proposing at present is to ban slavery in the new western states. How likely is it, really, that Wyoming is ever going to have cotton plantations– with or without Lincoln?”

  637. Wes says:

    Actually, Mnw, Jefferson Davis–ironically the President of the Confederacy–argued against secession, feeling the South was unprepared for the war. He accepted his state’s withdrawal though when it occurred.

    Southerners had a knee-jerk reaction to Lincoln’s election they realistically shouldn’t have had and paid dearly for their lack of foresight.

    Realistically though this issue is about 5 million down on my list of things I care about. Slavery and the war ended 113 years before I was born, and I honestly have more current things in American history to worry about.

    Bitterlaw and Jason can’t get over the fact that the North won the war though. In Bitterlaw’s case, I know the reason. He’s a virulent anti-Southern bigot. As far as Jason, I have no clue. He seems to just want to be Bitter’s lapdog and parrot everything Bitter says.

  638. Bitterlaw says:

    There were 2 choices Lincoln faced:

    1. Fight to win the war and end slavery forever in the US even if it meant tolerating slavery in the border states in order to win the war.

    2. Adopt the Wes strategy of allowing the South to secede (including the border states if the Emancipation Proclamation applied to them) and let slavery continue for decades.

    I can live with the ugliness of the first choice. Wes prefers the second.

  639. jason says:

    He seems to just want to be Bitter’s lapdog and parrot everything Bitter says.”

    Suck it Bitter, I get all the points and you get nothing.

  640. jason says:

    wes admits there are 5 million things he thinks are more important than slavery, which btw still exists today around the world.

    I think that explains a lot.

  641. jason says:

    Bitterlaw and Jason can’t get over the fact that the North won the war though.”

    The side that wanted to abolish slavery won.

    I got over it.

  642. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – GFY. You don’t get all the points for being my lapdog.

  643. Wes says:

    Way to take my words out of context, Jason. Of course it’s what you do best, so I’m not surprised. I was explicitly referring to slavery up to the mid-1800s. Unlike you, I don’t feel the need to obsess over something that ended over a century before I was born. Notice I don’t bring slavery up unless you or Bitter inevitably mentions it.

    Modern-day slavery–which you and Bitter obviously don’t care about given your exclusive criticism of slavery in the American South–is something I do care about. I don’t mention it much, but I actually yearly contribute to groups trying to stop modern slavery–especially of the sexual variety since a friend of mine was a victim of that in her teens.

    What do you do to combat modern slavery besides pontificate on a blog about the sins of people dead a century and a half, bitchboy?

  644. jason says:

    I correct myself.

    Slavery in the US in the 1800’s is about five million down on things Wes cares about.

    I think that explains a lot.

  645. jason says:

    Jason – GFY. You don’t get all the points for being my lapdog.”

    Nice dodge, but you left out parrot.

  646. jason says:

    about the sins of people dead a century and a half, bitchboy?”

    I see, 150 years is just too much to condemn that kind of evil?

    What about the Holocaust? Has it been so long, 75 years, that we should no longer condemn Hitler’s “sins”.

    Let me know what you think the cut-off should be, I will take it under advisement.

  647. jason says:

    “Notice I don’t bring slavery up unless you or Bitter inevitably mentions it.”

    So you are triggered by attacks on slavery?

    You might want to ask yourself why that is….

  648. Wes says:

    And there we go. I rather expected Bitterlaw to invoke Godwin’s Law. I’m not really surprised Jason did. It was inevitable and predictable.

    This is the point where the conversation devolves to the point of not being worth continuing–especially with Jason’s shameless willingness to twist and distort statements to suit his narrative.

  649. jason says:

    ith Jason’s shameless willingness to twist and distort statements to suit his narrative.”

    Where is the distortion?

    I asked you a legitimate question, if 150 years is too long to criticize the evils and “sins” of slavery, what do you think the cut-off should be.

    Is 75 years too long to condemn the Holocaust?

  650. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes likes to invoke Godwin’s law to shut down arguments. However, he ignores the concept that sometimes things are so evil that they can be compared to Nazi Germany. Owning slaves and working them until they died on plantations can be discussed even if Wes wants to dismiss it. There were no gas chambers in the South and American slaves certainly did not live in conditions like Treblinka or Birkenau or other camps but they did live in a system where they were abused and broken until they died in bondage. “Wrong” and “blight” are pathetic attempts to minimize it.

  651. jason says:

    . Owning slaves and working them until they died on plantations”

    Not to mentioned beaten, chained, bought and sold like chattel, living in sub-human conditions.

    Oh wait, that was 150 years ago, we shouldn’t be discussing such “blights”.

  652. Paul says:

    DW, I agree that she is pretty cute. But, can you keep some of this obsession to yourself.

  653. mnw says:

    BL

    Lincoln did not “fight the war to end slavery forever” until circa 1864. Northern public opinion would not have supported a war fought for that purpose in 1861-’62.

    There were some enlightened antislavery leaders, especially Horace Greeley at the NY Tribune (Herald?), who favored (as his famous editorial stated), “Let the Erring Sisters Go In Peace.”

    Personally, had I lived back then in the border state of MO, in the antislavery part of MO around STL, I would’ve liked to see slavery extinguished sooner or later, but I hope I would’ve also been cognizant of the unimaginable blood tax such a huge war would’ve likely entailed.

  654. Tgca says:

    Off to Philly area tonight house hunting this weekend. Not going to rush into anything, as I prefer to find the right place. Besides my friend Bitter is more than happy to host me and two dogs until I find a place. No worries though, I will not stay more than a year.

    What time does the wifey serve breakfast?

  655. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Hat Tip to Rdelbov at RRH:

    “Four more Circuit court judges have passed the judiciary committee and are on the way to the senate floor.”

    Grant (11th) Porter (3rd) Quackenbush and Richardson (4th)

  656. Messy says:

    655. There were two slaves in New Jersey and none elsewhere in the North.

  657. mnw says:

    In 2019, it looks as if the state of Texas will produce appx TWICE the amount of oil produced by Iran.

    “I been sent to spread the message, God bless Texas!”

  658. jason says:

    Tgca, you will give up being a vegetarian once you try some really good Amish scrapple.

    As soon as you get settled in, I will send you some.

    Your dogs will love it too.

    Don’t worry, I won’t send you any sissified Philadelphia scrapple, made with “premium cuts”.

    It will be real thing, jowls, cheeks, tongue, heart, liver, etc.

  659. mnw says:

    45/54 today

  660. jason says:

    So Tgca, wtf are you going to Philly for a year for?

    Did you lose a bet?

    Bummer.

  661. Wobbles says:

    “Four more Circuit court judges have passed the judiciary committee and are on the way to the senate floor.”

    Ok, ok, can we now get back to Roy Moore?

  662. Wobbles says:

    I am a lifelong Republican who would prefer Hillary’s picks.

    The reason being, since she is a compromising moderate, she would pick conservative judges in order to protect her moderate image.

  663. jason says:

    Anyone else watching The Open Championship?

  664. DW says:

    Surprise, surprise, paul the leftist loon thinks Ocasio-Cortez is cute. I think she is as homely as a mule. But I will continue to pile on. The last time someone like this rose up from nowhere, everyone dismissed Obama as loon who wouldn’t stand a chance to make any impact.

  665. jason says:

    Really, I think Paul is just attracted to Marxists, I would give her like a 5.

  666. Bitterlaw says:

    Good luck, Tgca. What areas are you looking in? Let me warn you that some places that sound nice are NOT. East Oak Lane? War zone. Juniata? Sketchy.

    A fabulous dude like you should look in Rittenhouse Square area, Old City, Center City, and Washington Square are the nicest.

  667. jason says:

    Sean Spicier:

    “Been a rough run for Democrats. Lost the House, Senate, WH, Supreme Court, and now they got James Comey endorsing them.”

    LOL

  668. GPO says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:

    July 19, 2018 at 1:46 pm

    Hat Tip to Rdelbov at RRH:

    “Four more Circuit court judges have passed the judiciary committee and are on the way to the senate floor.”

    Grant (11th) Porter (3rd) Quackenbush and Richardson (4th)

    3 district court judges as well!

    https://www.courthousenews.com/senate-panel-approves-seven-more-trump-judicial-nominees/

  669. DW says:

    CA_49 poll

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
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    TX_31 R | 152 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    CA_22 R | 153 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.3 — 49/41 (PPP)
    NC_08 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    OH_07 R | 155 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    OH_10 R | 156 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    OH_15 R | 157 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    PA_14* D | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    NY_23 R | 159 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Ln R | 5 —
    CO_03 R | 160 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    SC_01 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    MO_02 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    CA_50 R | 163 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5 —
    PA_16 R | 164 | Ln R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5 — 48/43 (PPP)
    IN_02 R | 165 | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5 —
    AZ_06 R | 166 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5 —
    AZ_08 R | 167 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5 —
    FL_15* R | 168 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5 —
    FL_06* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.6 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.6 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.6 —
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 4.6 —
    OH_14 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 4.6 —
    WI_06 R | 174 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.3 —
    FL_25 R | 175 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.3 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.3 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.3 —
    TX_21* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.3 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_18 R | 180 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    NY_24 R | 181 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4 — 49/37 (PPP)
    IL_13 R | 183 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 45/42 (PPP)
    IL_14 R | 184 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 45/41 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 186 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.6 —
    VA_05 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 3.6 —
    NY_01 R | 188 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.3 —
    NJ_03 R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | 3.3 — 48/44 (D-Int.) | 42/42 (GSG-D)
    AR_02 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.3 — 47/42 (PPP)
    WA_05 R | 191 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 —
    OH_01 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 — 43/42 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 194 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 —
    NC_13 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.6 — 43/40 (PPP) | 40/35 (Civitas)
    WV_03* R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | 2.3 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    VA_02 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.3 — 48/42 (PPP)
    IA_03 R | 198 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 44/43 (PPP) | 41/45 (D-Int.)
    MT_01 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | 2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NM_02* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    ME_02 R | 201 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 — 45/35
    MI_08 R | 202 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | 1.6 — 46/41 (PPP)
    TX_32 R | 203 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 —
    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 205 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 — 47/43 | 45/39 (Salt Lake Trib.)
    KS_03 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 —
    OH_12* R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.5 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics) | 48/43 (D-Int.)
    VA_07 R | 208 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.3 —
    KS_02* R | 209 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.3 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    WI_01* R | 210 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.3 —
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 —
    IL_06 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.1 — 45/44 (Garin-Hart-Yang-D)
    TX_07 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.1 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    CA_45 R | 214 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 1 — 43/46 (PPP)
    NC_09* R | 215 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — | 36/43 (Civ.) | 43/44 (D-Int)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 41/42 (PPP) | 45/47 (GQR-D)
    PA_01 R | 217 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 49/42
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    IL_12 R | 218 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.6 — 44/39 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    NY_19 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.5 — 41/43 (PPP)
    TX_23 R | 215 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 44/43 (PPP)
    IA_01 R | 214 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.3 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    WA_08* R | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.3 — 51/45
    CA_10 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 49/42 (Srt. 360-D) | 45/40 (GSG-D)
    CA_48 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/44 (D-Int) | 45/47 (Monmouth)
    CO_06 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 —
    NY_22 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/40 (DCCC-D)
    PA_17 R | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.3 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 200 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.8 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    PA_07* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.8 —
    VA_10 R | 198 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.3 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.5 —
    CA_49* R | 196 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 — 41/44 (Feldman) | 46/43 (R-Int)
    NV_03* D | 195 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.3 —
    AZ_01 D | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.5 —
    NV_04* D | 191 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.6 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3 —
    MN_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3.3 —
    PA_08 D | 188 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.3 —
    NJ_05 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    PA_06* R | 186 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 185 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -4 —
    NJ_02* R | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.3 — 39/44 (PPP)
    PA_05* R | 183 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.6 —
    AZ_09* D | 182 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.6 —
    NH_02 D | 181 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.6 —
    CT_05* D | 180 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | -4.6 —
    FL_13 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5 —
    WI_03 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    CA_24 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    IA_02 D | 175 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.3 —
    NY_25 D | 174 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.3 —

    *indicates open seat

  670. dblaikie says:

    I enjoyed reading the debate about the slavery and of course the hyperbole is always fun. On the whole I sit on the Jason and Bitter side of things.

    Being someone who really is fascinated by Civil War history. I would like to make a point.

    Lincoln’s election stance where he states that he is not against slavery where it is already established but only new territories, was a true “wolf in sheep’s clothing” concerning slavery. At the time of the election the country was held together by Clay’s “Missouri Compromise” which stated that if a new state was brought into the Union as a free state, another state would need to be added that was a slave state thereby keeping the balance. It also was a compromise that made slavery perfectly acceptable. Lincoln’s election year platform destroys that balance and proclaims that even though slavery had to be tolerated it was still wrong. His platform didn’t kill slavery outright, but it did condemn it to a slow death.

    I really have no doubt that Lincoln was anti-slavery from the start and he did not just evolve into it. The southern states clearly saw this. Lincoln’s election to them was the beginning of the end that terrible institution.

  671. Paul says:

    685: She’s cute. But she’s no Obama.

  672. Paul says:

    And, she’s no Huckabee-Sanders, but I still might sleep with her.

  673. dblaikie says:

    Paul is right she is cute in an ugly way. But she only knows how mouth slogans and has no thought of her own. However put her in a liberal boot camp and DW is right, she could be a threat.

  674. Robbie says:

    Guys, it appears the deep state has corrupted the Senate. The vote was 98-0. Tinfoil and her buddies at Breitbart must get to the bottom of this an expose the cucks who are responsible.

    The Associated Press
    ?@AP

    In rebuke to Trump over Putin summit, Senate goes on record against allowing Russia to question US officials.

  675. DW says:

    Radical left has launched a huge effort to resist Brett Kavanaugh. They already passed on their best chance to stop him when they voted for Stein instead of Hillary in 2016 because it was impossible for Clinton to lose to Trump. Had they voted Hillary in WI, MI and PA, they would have stopped Kavanaugh before he ever started.

  676. dblaikie says:

    Talk about a vote that means nothing! Trump was never going to allow that in the first place and anyone who believes that he really would (Robbie) has intellectual problems.

  677. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “The open-seat race in California’s 49th District is already close, according to an internal poll from Republican Diane Harkey’s campaign, obtained by Roll Call.

    Harkey, an elected member of the California State Board of Equalization that oversees taxation, led Democratic environmental lawyer Mike Levin, 46 percent to 43 percent. Nine percent of respondents were undecided.”

    Although an internal poll, believe it may be accurate. It will be a very close race. The Democrat who made it into the final election is the least electable of those who ran.

  678. Robbie says:

    LOL. To announce this invite after the week he’s just had indicates Trump is either oblivious to the rebuke he’s received this week, or Trump is nothing more than a troll.

    Sarah Sanders
    @PressSec

    In Helsinki, @POTUS agreed to ongoing working level dialogue between the two security council staffs. President Trump asked @Ambjohnbolton to invite President Putin to Washington in the fall and those discussions are already underway.

  679. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Interesting contrast:

    (Finnish media) points out the huge contrast between the US and Russian Presidents’ massive armoured motorcades and the fact that the Finnish President walked across the street to Kanavaranta after the summit to “have a beer just like any other Finn after a tough day on the job”.
    “It was an informal shared moment between the President of the Republic and members of his cabinet on a pleasant summer night, at the end of a long day. No more comment,” said the presidential office’s communications director, Katri Makkonen.

    Trump needs to consider adopting the “no more comment” phrase.

  680. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    July 19, 2018 at 3:53 pm
    Talk about a vote that means nothing! Trump was never going to allow that in the first place and anyone who believes that he really would (Robbie) has intellectual problems.

    – Then why did Trump call it an “amazing offer” on Monday and then, when confronted about it yesterday, take another 24 hours to put out a paper statement rejecting it even as he called it a sincere offer? Trying to figure out if it was a redemptive act or not?

  681. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Am happy to hear Putin may visit Washington. Like the fact that the United States and Russia are talking.

  682. dblaikie says:

    Sorry Robbie, I stand by my post.

  683. Robbie says:

    Kisses fingers.

    Shane Harris
    @shaneharris

    Mitchell just broke the news on stage to Coats that, per WH, Putin is coming to Washington. “Say that again?” Coats asked. Audience erupts in laughter. He took a breath. “Ok. That’s gonna be special.”

  684. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    July 19, 2018 at 4:39 pm
    Sorry Robbie, I stand by my post.

    – And I stand by mine. If he wasn’t considering the sincere offer, why did it take him 24 hours to reject it after confronted over it yesterday?

  685. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 19, 2018 at 4:33 pm
    Am happy to hear Putin may visit Washington. Like the fact that the United States and Russia are talking.

    – Trust me. I’m not the least bit surprised you feel that way.

  686. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It appears the American people support Trump on demanding increased NATO defense spending.

    “WASHINGTON (Reuters) – Nearly half of Americans believe that the United States should not be required to defend NATO allies from attack if they do not spend more on defense, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll conducted after U.S. President Donald Trump’s trip to Europe.

    * * * *

    NATO diplomats have told Reuters they worry that Trump’s portrayal of NATO as an alliance in crisis has raised concern that the U.S. president’s nagging criticism might erode U.S. public support and risk America’s commitment to collective defense. In the poll, 49 percent of respondents said the United States should not have to uphold its treaty commitments if allies do not spend more on defense. Another 18 percent said they were not sure if the United States had to uphold those commitments.
    A third of those polled said did not agree with the idea of linking America’s treaty commitments to an increase in allies’ defense spending.”

    The free ride is over.

  687. lisab says:

    the emancipation proclamation was an executive order, not an amendment or law

    and especially at that time, an executive order by the president could only apply to where the feds were in control, not to states.

    at the time, none of the amendments in the bill of rights applied to state controlled land — states usually had their own version of the bill of rights, that could be enforced by STATE COURTS.

    under Lincoln’s power as cic, he was able to say that the southern states were in rebellion and when areas were conquered, they became under fed control, thus his executive orders applied.

    the initial proclamation freed about 50,000 slaves, but lincoln simply had no legal standing to free the slaves in the border states.

  688. Paul says:

    Looks like Trump is gonna get Putin to the White House in October. Maybe the two of them can squeeze in a few campaign stops for GOP congressional candidates.

  689. dblaikie says:

    This Russia nonsense is exactly that nonsense. First of all, I believe deeds are far more important than words, and Trump’s administration is far tougher then any recent American President. When I look back over the last 10 years I can’t help but remember how everyone like Robbie thought nothing of Obama’s stupid reset with Putin. Who can forget our Sec. of State Clinton fawning over Putin’s pet Lavrov with that stupid button.

    I mean lets get real. One of our greatest Presidents (arguably) FDR was chummy with one of the most murderous dictators in the history of world, Joseph Stalin and at Yalta basically gave away Eastern Europe (Churchill was stunned)!

    If Putin and Trump could reach some kind of accord — tenuous as it may be — that would be good for our country.

    I believe that this unhinged rage by the folks on the left that Robbie (aka amoral scumbag) likes is the real danger and that over the top lunacy is hurting our country. It is astounding to me that someone would take mere words from a press conference and compare it to Kristallnact belittles that horrific night in every way. And then when some pathetic piece of scum said, “this is our Pearl Harbor” another said “our September 11” I wanted to throw a brick at my TV. What a cheapening of that day of sorrow, tragedy and grief.

    So excuse me Robbie, I could care less if Putin comes. In my mind his real friends aren’t the Donald Trump’s of the world but the John Brennans and James Clappers of our media culture.

    And now Robbie, I am going to say something redemptive. All of these lunatics on left can go to hell!!

  690. Redmen4ever says:

    Emancipation Proclamation: provided compensated emancipation for slaves in the places that remained loyal. So, there a plan to end slavery throughout the country.

    But, in fact, most slaves in the border states simply ran away, as the word spread that the army – under Lincoln’s orders – would not capture and return them. Perhaps 3/4th of the slaves in the border states gained their freedom this way.

    Plus: the Congress had eliminated slavery in D.C. in 1862 via compensated emancipation, the new constitutions in Maryland and Missouri abolished what remained of slavery in those places 1864 and 1865. This means Delaware and Kentucky as the only places where the 13th Amendment had an impact. And, even in those two places, the 13th Amendment only freed a small number of slaves (the ones who didn’t escape when the army was, wink, wink, helping them. I’ll focus on Delaware.

    Delaware was a tough nut to crack. Lincoln had proposed compensated emancipation to deal with slavery in the border states early on, and got a deal for D.C. He entered into negotiations with Delaware. Delaware at first demanded a high price and then turned down any deal.

    So, as it turned out, the slave owners of Delaware got squat, as most slaves ran away, and the few that didn’t were emancipated without compensation by the 13th Amendment. Some people you just can’t make a deal with. Humans often allow their emotions to overcome reason.

    BTW While I loved the Danial Day Lewis movie about Lincoln, the movie misrepresented the controversy in the House at the time of ratification. The controversy concerned compensation to slave-owners in the loyal states. Well, to hell with them. They had their chance for compensated emancipation back in 1862.

  691. Tina says:

    Has the Jebot admitted that Browder is not a us citizen.

  692. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This is a great article by John Solomon at The Hill. It will make Robbie crazy. It shows that the Mueller investigation was started even though after 1 1/2 years of investigation , Pete The Cheat’s comment that “there was no there,there” was true. Lisa Page attested to that in her Congressional deposition. Rosenstein is a snake in the grass for allowing this investigation to proceed.

    http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/397902-opinion-one-fbi-text-message-in-russia-probe-should-alarm-every-american

    Tina, you will enjoy this article.

  693. Tina says:

    Redactsteins order is problematic because he says it’s a continuation of the counterintelligence investigation.

  694. lisab says:

    Police Investigate NY Times Reporter For Breaking Into GOP Staffer’s Home

  695. mnw says:

    Gallup: One Issue Has Skyrocketed As the Most Important to Voters Heading Into the Midterms

    Guess who I am?

    Hint: rhymes with “conflagration” & “inoculation”

  696. Gpo says:

    Scott should have aired his grievances earlier . A great great potential 9th circuit judge swished because Scott and Rubio too lazy to ask for information earlier

  697. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @realDonaldTrump
    “I told you so! The European Union just slapped a Five Billion Dollar fine on one of our great companies, Google. They truly have taken advantage of the U.S., but not for long!”

    So Trump is going to bat for Google. This will be entertaining. I’m on the European side on this one.

  698. Phil says:

    SD.

    Agree with you on Google. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Lefty Google can suck on it.

  699. Tina says:

    The number one issue is trump, Russian collusion.

    Jebot

  700. Paul says:

    716: Emancipation?

  701. Messy says:

    713. Then how do you explain all the indictments and convictions?

  702. mnw says:

    In regard to the trade pillow fight, we should never forget “non-tariff import barriers” either.

    My favorite one of these is the EU’s longstanding rule completely banning the import of major U.S. agricultural foodstuffs, because… genetically modified seeds, see? “Frankenfood”!

    Nothing whatsoever to do with protectionism. That is just an unintended consequence.* It’s ONLY about health & safety. /s

    *albeit an enormous one.

  703. DW says:

    I mentioned yesterday the irony of the leftists enraged against Kavanaugh, and the fact that they could have stopped him easily in Nov. 2016 but chose not too. Here are the number…real life Democrat ‘Steve Bartmans’…Democrat dead-enders who chose to ‘send a [green] message’ to Dem leadership that they need to listen to the green hard-left lunacy. And as a result of that sent message, Trump has harmed their cause in ways they never could have dreamed possible.

    Here are the number of Stein voters in each state who had it in their power to elect Clinton over Trump, but instead sent a message:

    Just 10,705 out of the 51,463 Jill Stein voters in Michigan.

    22,749 out of 31,072 Jill Stein voters in Wisconsin.

    44,293 out of the 49,941 Jill Stein voters in Pennsylvania.

    The GOP dead-enders would do well to learn a lesson from this, but they won’t. They will shoot themselves over and over.

  704. mnw says:

    DW

    I’m not quite reading you on what “GOP deadenders” are supposed to stop doing.

    The closest thing (not very close at all) to the Greens on the conservative side is the Libertarian Party. What are we “GOP deadenders” supposed to do about THEM? You might as well try to talk to your cat about physics.

    Aside from the unapproachable Libertarian Party supporters, what should “GOP deadenders” do differently in the GE?

  705. jason says:

    Gary Johnson had 3 times the votes than Jill Stein in all those states, so if you want to play that game you have to consider him too. More of his votes would have gone to Trump than Hillary.

    And of course in both cases a lot of those voters would not have voted for Trump or Hillary.

    Wisconsin 106,674
    Michigan 172,136
    Pennsylvania 146,715

  706. jason says:

    DW, the deadenders will never learn, that is why they are deadenders.

    SEND A MESSAGE!

    The GOP deadenders would rather elect liberal democrats who will vote against their interests 100% of the time than “RINOS” who will only vote for their interests 95% of the time.

    When you are that stupid, there is not much hope.

  707. Robbie says:

    Good job, everyone.

    Josh Kraushaar
    ?@HotlineJosh

    Manchin-mentum: McConnell group scraps planned attack ad against red-state senator.

  708. mnw says:

    RRH has some Libertarian Party fellow travelers who go to their conclaves & shmooze with George Will.

    Wes has stated that he sometimes votes for Libertarians.

    Again, I often get accused of being a “deadender” because I sometimes support “deadend” candidates in GOP primaries… but then support the eventual winner, no matter who it is.

    I think it’s illogical & unfair to blame “GOP deadenders” for the stupid voters who vote Libertarian in the GE.

  709. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    July 19, 2018 at 7:17 pm
    This is a great article by John Solomon at The Hill. It will make Robbie crazy. It shows that the Mueller investigation was started even though after 1 1/2 years of investigation , Pete The Cheat’s comment that “there was no there,there” was true. Lisa Page attested to that in her Congressional deposition. Rosenstein is a snake in the grass for allowing this investigation to proceed.

    – John Solomon. LOL!

    Next you’re going to tell me Sebastian Gorka is a credible terrorism expert and Dinesh DiSouza is a respected documentary film maker.

  710. mnw says:

    If I always vote straight GOP in the GE, even including McCain, there’s not much more I can do, is there, jason? I’ve voted for many RINOs, McCain being the most difficult of all to support. But I did.

  711. Robbie says:

    As far as WV goes, it’s important to remember Morrisey was a Steve Bannon backed candidate. Bannon thought Morrisey would be one of his new nationalist populist Senators who would win and kick Mitch McConnell out of the Leader job.

    I think almost everyone here understood Jenkins was a far better candidate to face Manchin, but now he’s out and Republicans may well lose his House seat. Hopefully, Jenkins runs for his old House seat in 2020 and maybe he can get another shot at Manchin in 2024.

  712. jason says:

    They will shoot themselves over and over.”

    Senators COD, Akin, Angle, Mourdock, Buck, Miller, Moore, McDaniels, would like to thank the deadenders for their steadfast support. Yes, the deadenders failed to elect Dems in AK and MS, but at least they tried.

  713. jason says:

    If I always vote straight GOP in the GE, even including McCain, there’s not much more I can do, is there, jason? I’ve voted for many RINOs, McCain being the most difficult of all to support. But I did.”

    So you want a medal?

    Zzzzzzzz…..

  714. jason says:

    I think almost everyone here understood Jenkins was a far better candidate?

    I think most people understand here that you have zero credibility on “who the best candidate is” and that your agenda is the MSM’s agenda.

    Now GFY.

  715. Robbie says:

    Make food more expensive for Americans again!

    There’s not a person a live who can claim there is a national security component to these tariffs and yet Trump’s using his 232 power to claim there is.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    Farmers have been on a downward trend for 15 years. The price of soybeans has fallen 50% since 5 years before the Election. A big reason is bad (terrible) Trade Deals with other countries. They put on massive Tariffs and Barriers. Canada charges 275% on Dairy. Farmers will WIN!

  716. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 10:03 am
    I think almost everyone here understood Jenkins was a far better candidate?
    I think most people understand here that you have zero credibility on “who the best candidate is” and that your agenda is the MSM’s agenda.
    Now GFY.

    – Says the fraud who hated Trump every day of the campaign, refused to vote for Trump, and then left the party over Trump.

  717. mnw says:

    45/54

    Needless to say, I didn’t vote for any of those, nor contribute to them. I voted for Brunner (I think that was his name), not Akin.

    I guess the thing jason wants is for social conservatives to just skip the GOP primaries, right, jason? And watch electable mainstream GOP candidates win, like President Romney and President McCain.

  718. jason says:

    gain, I often get accused of being a “deadender” because I sometimes support “deadend” candidates in GOP primaries… but then support the eventual winner, no matter who it is.”

    But then it’s too late, isn’t it.

    You support a deadender that is sure to lose the GE, and then you want credit for voting for him/her?

    Brilliant!

    Might as well vote for the Dem in the GE, the die is already cast.

  719. jason says:

    I guess the thing jason wants is for social conservatives to just skip the GOP primaries, right, jason? ”

    No I want conservatives to pick primary candidates that can actually win a GE.

    Voting for deadenders just because supposedly they are more conservative is self defeating.

    That is what just happened in VA. How is re-electing Kaine going to help social conservatives.

  720. Robbie says:

    So how long before Tinfoil and the rest of the MAGA army turn on Will Hurd and decide a Democrat would be better.

    Hurd: Trump is being manipulated by Putin.

    https://www.mediaite.com/print/republican-congressman-and-ex-cia-officer-trump-is-being-manipulated-by-putin/

  721. jason says:

    every day of the campaign,”

    The campaign is over.

    It sucks to be you.

  722. Tina says:

    Are we on muh tariffs now since muh Russian went kapoot?

  723. jason says:

    So Comey says everyone who is a patriot should vote for Democrats.

    It’s almost like a joke. He has been pretending all along to be non-partisan, even a “lifelong Republican”, then he says something like that.

    Confirming what everyone already knew.

    About as much credibility as Amoral Scumbag.

  724. Tina says:

    What did pooty poot have on the obumbler ?

    That is the better question.

    Why meet twice with pooty poot if he interfered with the election?

    Why issue a stand down order to the ?It Chief?

    Why say nothing until after trump was elected?

  725. jason says:

    Needless to say, I didn’t vote for any of those, nor contribute to them. I voted for Brunner (I think that was his name), not Akin.”

    mnw is smarter than the average deadender.

  726. DW says:

    mnw…I am not trying to equate Greens with Libertarians, and so forth–rather talking about the voting principles that go in people’s heads along these lines:

    1) I am passionate about the issue of _______!

    2) I am going to show my passion on this issue I care so much about, that I will vote for the lunatic fringe candidate who has no hope of winning the election (whether primary or general) because (s)he is just as passionate as I am.

    3) The result of my vote contributed to the victory of the very candidate most devoted to the opposite side of the issue I am passionate about. But at least I sent a message!

    Many voters never learn how to vote smart–vote to actually advance what they say they want.

  727. dblaikie says:

    730 Robbie either you are a dunce who can’t see a point or you are a person who is pretty good at disinformation. John Solomon’s credibility is not the issue. The issue is if that e-mail is accurate. If it is accurate, if Lisa Page confirmed it, then it doesn’t really matter who reports it first. What matters is the e-mail which is rather damning to the whole Russia junk that no one outside of Washington and trolls like you care about.

    And by the way, with the track record of the Times and the Post and the other Media outlets who have gotten stuff wrong time after time, John Solomon seems credible to me. And just for you here is an article that chronicles the NYTimes bad reporting. https://www.dailysignal.com/2017/08/10/heres-a-list-of-the-5-biggest-ny-times-screw-ups-this-year/

  728. Tina says:

    We need to see the proof that hurt has regarding pooty poot influencing trump.

    There is none.

    Another hoax because Hillary lost.

    Who did hurt vote for in 2016?

    Their coup is nearing an end,

    If they want to run foreign policy, by all means run for the Presidency.

  729. DW says:

    I get the Johnson vote jason, and its also true the Cubs didn’t lose just because of Steve Bartman’s interference. But the reality is, it has to haunt these Stein voters to know they could have prevented, by themselves, the horrors they now experience, with their own free votes.

  730. Mr.Vito says:

    Uh… two way races were actually polled as part of the exit polls, so you can just look. Only Michigan shows it making any difference, which could just be polling error.

  731. Tina says:

    The Jebot still thinks Browder is a us citizen, not worth the time or day,

    Pissed that Hilary lost.

  732. Tina says:

    Solomon is a good reporter and has sources, unlike Maggie Hack.

  733. Tina says:

    OH please run and be the drat nominee.

    Eric Holder wants to run for president.

  734. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 10:12 am
    every day of the campaign,”
    The campaign is over.
    It sucks to be you.

    – This is weak sauce, but it’s all the fraud has at this point. Under this line of thinking, Jason fraud should have stopped attacking Obama after he won the 2012 election. Of course, he didn’t.

    And of course, Jason fraud will respond by saying he disagreed with Obama’s agenda, but what about Trump’s asinine tariffs, Trump’s ball licking of Putin, Trump’s trashing of NATO, Trump’s attacks on European allies, or Trump using Stalin’s line the “press are the enemy of the people”.

    Should I just stand down even though I strongly oppose Trump’s agenda and tactics simply because the election is over and he won with a R next to his name? That’s not happening, fraud, even though it’s what you’ve been doing for 18 months.

  735. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 20, 2018 at 10:22 am
    The Jebot still thinks Browder is a us citizen, not worth the time or day,

    – Tinfoil, a Putin flunky these days, wants to turn over to Russia someone against whom Putin has created false charges.

  736. jason says:

    ut the reality is, it has to haunt these Stein voters to know they could have prevented, by themselves, the horrors they now experience, with their own free votes.”

    I doubt it. Deadenders are the same on both sides.

    Do the deadenders here regret giving away 6 winnable Senate seats to liberal Dems?

    No, they are still defending the “right” to vote for sure losers in the primaries.

    I bet most of them have not given their Jill Stein vote a second thought same as anyone who voted for Akin or COD in the primary.

  737. Tina says:

    Conversation
    Jeff Lord
    Jeff Lord
    @realJeffreyLord
    Obama’s CIA director acknowledges egging on the FBI’s probe of Trump and Russia, writes @KimStrassel (link: https://www.wsj.com/articles/brennan-and-the-2016-spy-scandal-1532039346) wsj.com/articles/brenn… via @WSJOpinion

    Comrade Brennan was in Russia in 3/16. What was he doing?

  738. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Clapper admits that pooty poot gave the order to meddle in our elections.

    Obumbler did nothing.

  739. jason says:

    Robbie either you are a dunce who can’t see a point or you are a person who is pretty good at disinformation.”

    Huh, does this have to be either/or?

  740. Wobbles says:

    WSJ?

    Puhhhleese…

    Stick with DKos.

  741. jason says:

    “Tinfoil, a Putin flunky these days, wants to turn over to Russia someone against whom Putin has created false charges.”

    Goalpost move alert!

    The problem was “US citizenship”.

    Now its “false charges”.

  742. Tina says:

    Browder renounced his us citizenship in the 1990s.

    RENOUNCED

  743. DW says:

    —jason, you are probably right about them. They probably don’t care about their votes. Meaning the only logical conclusions are…

    1) They are lying and are not truly passionate about an issue like they claim.

    2) They are stupid, or

    3) Both 1 and 2.

  744. Tina says:

    Well the Jebot love illegals.

    An act of love.

  745. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 20, 2018 at 10:23 am
    Solomon is a good reporter and has sources, unlike Maggie Hack.

    – This is laughable, even for Tinfoil. He was so well respected, he worked at Circa (whatever that is) and then worked at The Hill. But his time at The Hill apparently didn’t go so well.

    “In May 2018, the editor-in-chief of the Hill, announced that Solomon would become an “opinion contributor” at the Hill. This came in the wake of reports that Solomon’s colleagues at the Hill criticized Solomon’s news reporting as lacking rigor and context.”

    Meanwhile, Maggie Habermann won a Pulitzer Prize.

  746. DW says:

    Here is a link from RRH about the tolerant left in China. I mean the USA:

    PA CD-1: “Scott Wallace, a Democratic congressional candidate in Pennsylvania, donated millions of dollars to groups that advocated taxing families for “irresponsible breeding,” according to a report from Fox News.”
    https://freebeacon.com/politics/dem-candidate-donated-millions-groups-advocating-taxing-families-irresponsible-breeding/

  747. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    July 20, 2018 at 10:19 am
    730 Robbie either you are a dunce who can’t see a point or you are a person who is pretty good at disinformation

    – This from a guy who claimed Trump appointing conservative judges counted as redemptive acts by him for his past failings.

  748. jason says:

    And of course, Jason fraud will respond by saying he disagreed with Obama’s agenda, but what about Trump’s asinine tariffs, Trump’s ball licking of Putin, Trump’s trashing of NATO, Trump’s attacks on European allies, or Trump using Stalin’s line the “press are the enemy of the people”.

    Huh I oppose Trump’s asinine tariffs and Trump’s trashing of NATO and Trump’s attacks on European allies.

    I fully support his attacks on the group think, Pravda like, dishonest and biased MSM, and I support his summits with Putin and Kim.

    Now GFY.

  749. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 10:33 am
    Robbie either you are a dunce who can’t see a point or you are a person who is pretty good at disinformation.”
    Huh, does this have to be either/or?

    – Jason fraud: “I hated Trump every day of the campaign, I didn’t vote for him, and I left the party over him. But he won so now it’s inappropriate to strongly criticize him for things even I don’t like because the election is over and he won with a R after his name. I didn’t hold this view when it came to Obama, but consistency has never been my strong suit.”

  750. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 10:35 am
    “Tinfoil, a Putin flunky these days, wants to turn over to Russia someone against whom Putin has created false charges.”
    Goalpost move alert!
    The problem was “US citizenship”.
    Now its “false charges”.

    – Browder was born in Chicago, Illinois and has lived in London for the last 29 years or so.

    Do you favor turning him over to Putin on trumped up charges as Tinfoil does?

  751. Tina says:

    Trump should take away any security clearances that Clapper, comrade, and Susan rice has.

    Since they stood down and did nothing,mtheyncould be Russian agents

  752. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 20, 2018 at 10:39 am
    Browder renounced his us citizenship in the 1990s.
    RENOUNCED

    – Yes, he did renounce his citizenship. That doesn’t change the fact you were willing to hand him over to Putin for some ridiculous, made-up charge of donating money to Hillary.

  753. Tina says:

    You claimed that he was a us citizen. I pointed out that he was not.

    I pointed out that you were concerned about muh handover, when no extradiction treaty existed with Russia to do so.

  754. jason says:

    1) They are lying and are not truly passionate about an issue like they claim.

    2) They are stupid, or

    3) Both 1 and 2.”

    I think they are passionate but they believed that Hillary is a “corporate tool”, and like the GOP deadenders, they want 100% litmus tested candidates, 95% is not good enough.

    Yeah, they are stupid.

  755. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 10:46 am
    And of course, Jason fraud will respond by saying he disagreed with Obama’s agenda, but what about Trump’s asinine tariffs, Trump’s ball licking of Putin, Trump’s trashing of NATO, Trump’s attacks on European allies, or Trump using Stalin’s line the “press are the enemy of the people”.
    Huh I oppose Trump’s asinine tariffs and Trump’s trashing of NATO and Trump’s attacks on European allies.
    I fully support his attacks on the group think, Pravda like, dishonest and biased MSM, and I support his summits with Putin and Kim.
    Now GFY.

    – So you’re criticizing me for attacking Trump even on things you don’t like. Go it. You’re a fraud.

    And by the way, fraud. Using Stalin’s line “enemy of the people” to describe the press is disgraceful. If Obama had done that, you’d be demanding impeachment, but you’re a fraud so inconsistency is your specialty.

  756. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 20, 2018 at 10:50 am
    Trump should take away any security clearances that Clapper, comrade, and Susan rice has.
    Since they stood down and did nothing,mtheyncould be Russian agents

    – How long before Tinfoil says the same for Dan Coats, Trump’s handpicked DNI? I thought the glorious dear leader Trump only hired the best people?

  757. jason says:

    Browder was born in Chicago, Illinois”

    Irrelevant.

    He is not a US citizen.

    So where he was born has no relevance to whether he should face charges or not in Russia.

    I don’t know enough about the case to say if the charges are “false” or not.

    And you probably don’t either.

  758. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 20, 2018 at 10:54 am
    You claimed that he was a us citizen. I pointed out that he was not.
    I pointed out that you were concerned about muh handover, when no extradiction treaty existed with Russia to do so.

    – And I pointed out you thought it would be fine to hand over Browder on trumped up, fake charges that Browder illegally donated to Hillary.

    You’re a useful idiot for Trump and, apparently, now, Putin as well.

  759. jason says:

    So you’re criticizing me for attacking Trump even on things you don’t like.”

    No, I attacking you for being an amoral scumbag, a pathological liar, and an MSM sycophant toady.

    Hope its clear now.

  760. Tina says:

    The Jebot is having a bad day.

    Please furnish a link where I wanted anybody handed over to pooty poot.

  761. jason says:

    Because Amoral Scumbag shares the MSM blind hatred of Trump, he approves of the fact they are biased and dishonest. The ends justify the means

    He forgets that if Jeb! had won, the MSM would be using the same scurrilous and character assassination 24/7 they are using against Trump.

    But he approved of the same tactics against Romney, because at that time the same blind hatred he exhibits against Trump were directed at Romney.

    Amoral Scumbag.

  762. Mr.Vito says:

    The useful idiots for Putin are the ones who have been calling the 2016 election into question and trying to overturn the results for 2 years now, since undermining faith in our electoral process was always the stated goal.

  763. jason says:

    ‘fake charges that Browder illegally donated to Hillary.”

    Putin wants to prosecute Browder for illegally donating to Hillary?

    Who knew?

  764. DW says:

    It is amazing how the Russians meddled with those 78,000 voters in WI, MI and PA, causing them to vote for Stein instead of Hillary so Trump would win.

  765. Tina says:

    It would be scary if Jeb won.

    He would not even defend himself, just like Mute 43

  766. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 10:58 am
    Browder was born in Chicago, Illinois”
    Irrelevant.
    He is not a US citizen.
    So where he was born has no relevance to whether he should face charges or not in Russia.
    I don’t know enough about the case to say if the charges are “false” or not.
    And you probably don’t either.

    – Oh, I’ve got it. You don’t know enough to say whether the charges are fake. What copout. You really are a fraud.

    Putin has had it out for Browder for years. Browder did business in Russia through Hermitage and in 2005 Putin suddenly charged Browder as a threat to national security. He wanted Browder’s money because Putin’s a kleptocratic thug.

    In 2008, Putin had one of Browder’s auditors, Magnitsky, arrested by his secret police. They held him for 11 months and tortured him to death slowly. Browder then lobbied the Congress to pass the Magnitsky act in 2012, a series of sanctions against Putin and his thugs.

    You didn’t want to know the facts of this ridiculous offer Trump pondered because you didn’t want to know.

  767. jason says:

    The useful idiots for Putin are the ones who have been calling the 2016 election into question and trying to overturn the results for 2 years now, since undermining faith in our electoral process was always the stated goal.”

    Exactly. That is why in the end, Amoral Scumbag’s comments always boil down to overturning the results of the election, nothing else.

    That is the goal. The means don’t matter. It can be collusion, Stormy, child separation, Putin summit, blah blah blah, whatever the attack Trump flavor of the day is.

  768. Tina says:

    Notice how the Jebot always defends Her Thighness.

    Pooty poot has concerns about Browder committing something illegal.

    Browder is not a Us Citizen, so we cannot help him

    If he were a us citizen, there is no extradiction treaty.

    So pooty poot can pound sound.

  769. jason says:

    You didn’t want to know the facts of this ridiculous offer Trump pondered because you didn’t want to know.”

    LOL

    Considering you are the person here least concerned with facts, that is hilarious.

    I love this place.

  770. Tina says:

    Just like pooty poot would not hand over the 12 Russians indicted by Fuhrer Mulehead.

    It is a joke since the doj division that squashes these matters is now in charge of this matter.

    All because Fuhrer needs to keep up the hoax to election and try to do something like what Walsh did to Groper 41.

  771. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 11:01 am
    So you’re criticizing me for attacking Trump even on things you don’t like.”
    No, I attacking you for being an amoral scumbag, a pathological liar, and an MSM sycophant toady.
    Hope its clear now.

    – Just a reminder.

    Trump’s on his third marriage, he’s had multiple affairs, he’s paid for mistresses to get abortions, he had a year long affair with a Playboy playmate while married to his current wife, and he screwed a porn star four months after his current wife gave birth to their only son.

    But in Jason fraud’s world, I’m the amoral scumbag because I don’t approve of the lifestyle Trump has lead. That’s the kind of transactional consistency Jason fraud has come to specialize in these days.

  772. Tina says:

    If pooty pooty wants to charge Browder, then that is his business and mays business.

    Not our business.

    Pooty poot and dumb dumb may can hash it out.

  773. Tina says:

    Muh Browder to muh affair.

    What a joke the Jebot is.

  774. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    July 20, 2018 at 11:07 am
    The useful idiots for Putin are the ones who have been calling the 2016 election into question and trying to overturn the results for 2 years now, since undermining faith in our electoral process was always the stated goal.

    – I would also argue the useful idiots are the ones who felt, that because Bush and Obama had “failed the country”, we needed to try a woefully inexperienced person who had no experience whatsoever in politics or governance.

  775. dblaikie says:

    Rep. Hurd is a known never Trumper. Taking his op ed seriously is about on the same level of Joe Scarborough (another Republican) writing an Op-Ed and taking it seriously. In Robbie’s world never Trumpers and total left wing loons need to be believed while conservative op-writers like John Solomon have no credibility.

    Robbie, let me tell you the result of all this mayhem. The Democrats now have two main issues for the general election. The first was established about a month ago and it is a belief in very loose at best and totally open borders at worst with a policy of getting rid of ICE. I couldn’t believe the stupidity of the I think over 190 Dems who would only vote present in the non binding measure supporting ICE. The second is that they are clearly for and if they win will quickly move on the impeachment of Trump. This Russia stuff has let that Pandora out of the box and now they own it. No matter how much they try to walk it back there is no chance of success in getting it off the table.

    So those are their two issues. They have nothing to say about the economy. They have destroyed any chance of making health care the main issue with their over the top ranting and raging.

    The result of all this is clear. Anyone who still believes there is going to a be blue wave is simply delusional. I am confident that after this week especially the GOP will easily keep the House and will gain seats in the Senate.

    Oh I know that up until about October 15th there will be all sorts of bogus polls to try and depress turnout and create a false scenario. And after good folks like DW faithfully post those polls we will have to endure trolls like Robbie for awhile. But the truth is that this last month of border idiocy and Russia unwarranted rage the result is already baked in.

  776. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 11:12 am

    Exactly. That is why in the end, Amoral Scumbag’s comments always boil down to overturning the results of the election, nothing else.

    – Show me one comment I’ve made in the last 18 months where I have advocated overturning the 2016 election results. I haven’t called for Trump’s impeachment. I haven’t claimed the Russians affected the vote count.

    I do wish Trump would decide to quit, but that has to do with the fact he’s been an awful president who has shown himself incapable of governing.

    You’re just incapable of accepting that some people find Trump’s behavior repulsive and are willing to say it. Unlike a fraud like you, I’m willing to hold a pretend Republican like Trump just as accountable as I did Clinton in the 1990’s or GWB during the disastrous end to his presidency.

  777. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 20, 2018 at 11:17 am
    If pooty pooty wants to charge Browder, then that is his business and mays business.
    Not our business.

    – Like I said. A useful idiot spouting Putin talking points.

  778. jason says:

    Article in the New Republic, hardly a right wing publication, about Browder.

    The take is a little different than the one Amoral Scumbag is trying to sell.

    https://newrepublic.com/article/126760/fighting-putin-doesnt-make-saint

  779. Diamond Jim says:

    DCCC

  780. dblaikie says:

    Oh lets see. An economy that has over 4 percent growth, open communications with North Korea rather than missile tests over Japan, a NATO where members are putting more money into the pie. Man that is what I call a person’s results that reveals that he is “incapable of governing.”

    Yet I see the other side. We have tweets that enrage his opponents and a foreign press conference where he made some misstatements. And I do have some legitimate concerns about his tariffs.

    When the economy turns negative and North Korea starts testing missles again and Trump writes love letters to Putin then I will turn against Trump.

    But until then silly, poor written tweets, that have the result of dominating the news cycle is a small price to pay for giving him the benefit of the doubt.

  781. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    July 20, 2018 at 11:19 am
    Rep. Hurd is a known never Trumper. Taking his op ed seriously is about on the same level of Joe Scarborough (another Republican) writing an Op-Ed and taking it seriously. In Robbie’s world never Trumpers and total left wing loons need to be believed while conservative op-writers like John Solomon have no credibility.

    – I marvel at the way you will excuse anything Trump does and even claim that him appointing judges you like somehow qualifies as a redemptive act (laughable by the way). Yet those who don’t share your view of Trump deserve to have their motives questioned. That’s an interesting form of Christianity you practice.

  782. Phil says:

    By all means hold the President accountable when he needs to be held accountable. You don’t help your case, however when you constantly link stuff and repeat talking points from a MSM that hates Republicans. All Republicans BTW (except McCain when he is useful to them). They lost what little credibility they had with me and other conservatives with their hyper partisan attacks on Bush during his administration. I’m no fan of W but the stuff they put out there was beyond the pail of course it worked beautifully because Bush never pushed back) We all know where they are coming from when it comes to their hyper partisanship. They have no credibility with me or anyone else here. They are completely biased and dishonest.

  783. Phil says:

    Also, not buying the sh*t put out by the MSM doesn’t make you some sort of Trump chump.

  784. Tina says:

    Defense of Hillary at all cost.

  785. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 11:27 am
    Article in the New Republic, hardly a right wing publication, about Browder.
    The take is a little different than the one Amoral Scumbag is trying to sell.
    https://newrepublic.com/article/126760/fighting-putin-doesnt-make-saint

    – I didn’t expect Jason fraud to become useful idiot parroting Putin talking points, but Trumpism corrupts.

    But let’s be clear about what has happened here. Jason fraud just didn’t want to be on the same side of the issue as me so he went looking for an article that didn’t portray Browder in the way I had.

    And of course it should be noted that if I had used a New Republic article to back up a view, Jason fraud would have screamed bloody murder.

  786. Phil says:

    Of course Jason would have screamed bloody murder. It is a consistent left wing publication. The fact that even they aren’t even buying the Browder spin says a mouthful.

  787. jason says:

    n Robbie’s world never Trumpers and total left wing loons need to be believed while conservative op-writers like John Solomon have no credibility.”

    But remember, Amoral Scumbag actually pretends to be a Republican and a conservative.

  788. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 20, 2018 at 11:39 am
    Also, not buying the sh*t put out by the MSM doesn’t make you some sort of Trump chump.

    – And not buying the stuff put out by FoxNews, Sara Carter, John Solomon, Dan Bongino, and some of the other pro-Trump media doesn’t make someone a Trump hater. You haven’t done that, but plenty of others here have.

  789. Tina says:

    Browder is shady.p
    He a not our problem though since he is not a us Citizen, as alleged by the Jebot,

    He is dumb dumb mays problem.

  790. Chicon says:

    mnw is smarter than the average deadender.

    DW says:
    July 20, 2018 at 10:18 am
    mnw…I am not trying to equate Greens with Libertarians, and so forth–rather talking about the voting principles that go in people’s heads along these lines:

    1) I am passionate about the issue of _______!

    2) I am going to show my passion on this issue I care so much about, that I will vote for the lunatic fringe candidate who has no hope of winning the election (whether primary or general) because (s)he is just as passionate as I am.

    3) The result of my vote contributed to the victory of the very candidate most devoted to the opposite side of the issue I am passionate about. But at least I sent a message!

    Many voters never learn how to vote smart–vote to actually advance what they say they want.

    A Republican in the 2016 general election could answer #1 with “hating Trump”, #2 with “Donald Duck”. #3 is what s/he would’ve said had Hillary won.

    Now the same voters are referring to others as deadenders? For wasting their vote? I love this place.

  791. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 11:44 am

    But remember, Amoral Scumbag actually pretends to be a Republican and a conservative.

    – This is rich, even for you. You’re the one who left the Republican Party over Trump, fraud. Not me. I have remained in the party to try and fight the Trumpism. You cut and ran like the pussy you are.

  792. jason says:

    So a cursory look through Google shows that there are plenty of independent reports that this Browder guy is a hedge fund crook and not exactly the innocent victim Amoral Scumbag makes him out to be.

    His falling out with Putin has to do with financial matters, he was actually a Putin supporter when it benefited him financially.

    I still don’t know enough to render an opinion on the charges against him, but I now know enough to be able to state that as usual, Amoral Scumbag doesn’t know what he is talking about.

  793. dblaikie says:

    Another blatant example of not addressing the points of my post. And by the way we were discussing Judges and redemptive acts. When Trump does something I can’t defend or accept I will post it, I promise you.

    And by the way, don’t you dare belittle the form of Christianity I practice! You don’t know me or the vocation that I have labored in for over 30 years. I am pro life. Trump was once blatantly pro choice. Praise God that he claimed that he changed! We are all sinners but that change was an example of redemption. You see, in the Christianity that I practice turning away from sin and going the other way is an act of repentance. And repentance is redemptive.

    Now if you want to believe that Trump was lying about his change to a pro-life stance that is your business. My only response is that millions of evangelicals are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. That is why he won.

    In the future if you are going to engage my posts please respond to substance of the post. And quit belittling my personal faith and religion!!!

  794. dblaikie says:

    Please put a “not discussing” in the above post. Sorry for the confusion.

  795. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 20, 2018 at 11:45 am
    Browder is shady.p
    He a not our problem though since he is not a us Citizen, as alleged by the Jebot,

    – Right on cue, Tinfoil starts barfing up Putin talking points.

    Next, she’s going to tell us Putin’s illegal annexation of Crimea was cool and the vote ratifying it was legitimate.

  796. Phil says:

    The absolute and complete hoax and talking points put out by Brennan, Clapper, Pete Smirk, McCabe etc is outrageous – that Trump is some kind of a Manchurian Russian stooge is sick. What they did in the background to perpetuate this collusion crap is pathetic. They should all be in jail – not for what they say but for all they did. Makes me sick.

  797. Tina says:

    If it is documented that Browder, a U.K. Citizen, donated that money to Hillary, it is illegal.

    So,worthy of an invest

  798. jason says:

    have remained in the party to try and fight the Trumpism.”

    LOL

    You are fighting for the Democrats, not against “Trumpism”.

    A leopard doesn’t change his spots. In your case, a skunk doesn’t change his spots.

    You are as much a Republican as James Comey or Joe Scarborough. Actually a lot less, since they maybe were Republicans once, you never were.

    And of course, I never left the Party over Trump. Trump is a symptom of why I left the party, not the cause.

  799. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 11:47 am
    So a cursory look through Google shows that there are plenty of independent reports that this Browder guy is a hedge fund crook and not exactly the innocent victim Amoral Scumbag makes him out to be.
    His falling out with Putin has to do with financial matters, he was actually a Putin supporter when it benefited him financially.
    I still don’t know enough to render an opinion on the charges against him, but I now know enough to be able to state that as usual, Amoral Scumbag doesn’t know what he is talking about.

    – So I guess the Republican House that passed the Magnitsky Act in 2012 thanks to lobbying by Browder didn’t know what they were talking about either.

    Please write them and tell them they were wrong.

  800. jason says:

    That was a skunk doesn’t change his stripes.

  801. Tina says:

    I have to defend Hillary no matter what.

    Jebot

  802. jason says:

    So I guess the Republican House that passed the Magnitsky Act in 2012 thanks to lobbying by Browder didn’t know what they were talking about either.”

    It’s possible, it seems like a lot of Browder’s allegations don’t pass the smell test.

    “Browder has assiduously, and mostly successfully, made his case that he and Magnitsky have been the victims of Russian corruption both during and since that time, though there have been skeptics regarding many details of his personal narrative. He has been able to sell his tale to leading American politicians like Senators John McCain, Ben Cardin and ex-Senator Joe Lieberman, always receptive when criticizing Russia, as well as to a number of European parliamentarians and media outlets. But there is, inevitably, another side to the story, something quite different, which Andrei Nekrasov presents to the viewer.

    Nekrasov has discovered what he believes to be holes in the narrative that has been carefully constructed and nurtured by Browder. He provides documents and also an interview with Magnitsky’s mother maintaining that there is no clear evidence that he was beaten or tortured and that he died instead due to the failure to provide him with medicine while in prison or treatment shortly after he had a heart attack. A subsequent investigation ordered by then Russian President Dimitri Medvedev in 2011 confirmed that Magnitsky had not received medical treatment, contributing to this death, but could not confirm that he had been beaten even though there was suspicion that that might have been the case.

    Nekrasov also claims that much of the case against the Russian authorities is derived from English language translations of relevant documents provided by Browder himself. The actual documents sometimes say something quite different. Magnitsky is referred to as an accountant, not a lawyer, which would make sense as a document of his deposition is apparently part of a criminal investigation of possible tax fraud, meaning that he was no whistleblower and was instead a suspected criminal.

    Other discrepancies cited by Nekrasov include documents demonstrating that Magnitsky did not file any complaint about police and other government officials who were subsequently cited by Browder as participants in the plot, that the documents allegedly stolen from Magnitsky to enable the plotters to transfer possession of three Hermitage controlled companies were irrelevant to how the companies eventually were transferred and that someone else employed by Hermitage other than Magnitsky actually initiated investigation of the fraud.

    In conclusion, Nekrasov believes there was indeed a huge fraud related to Russian taxes but that it was not carried out by corrupt officials. Instead, it was deliberately ordered and engineered by Browder with Magnitsky, the accountant, personally developing and implementing the scheme used to carry out the deception.”

  803. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    July 20, 2018 at 11:47 am
    Another blatant example of not addressing the points of my post. And by the way we were discussing Judges and redemptive acts. When Trump does something I can’t defend or accept I will post it, I promise you.
    And by the way, don’t you dare belittle the form of Christianity I practice! You don’t know me or the vocation that I have labored in for over 30 years. I am pro life. Trump was once blatantly pro choice. Praise God that he claimed that he changed! We are all sinners but that change was an example of redemption. You see, in the Christianity that I practice turning away from sin and going the other way is an act of repentance. And repentance is redemptive.
    Now if you want to believe that Trump was lying about his change to a pro-life stance that is your business. My only response is that millions of evangelicals are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. That is why he won.
    In the future if you are going to engage my posts please respond to substance of the post. And quit belittling my personal faith and religion!!!

    – Spare me your outrage. Your first instinct when a Republican like Hurd, a former CIA agent, wrote something critical about Trump was to question his motives. That strikes me as the opposite of Christian.

    As for you defense of Trump’s conversion to pro-life, don’t be so naïve. I’m glad he’s appointing conservative judges, but he’ doesn’t give a darn about abortion. Judges are transactional for him. He gives evangelicals what they want to keep them from focusing on his past immoral lifestyle.

    And as for redemption, we Catholics believe you can only earn forgiveness if you truly are sorry for what you’ve done. There’s ZERO evidence Trump is sorry for the life he’s lead. And why should he be? His lifestyle got him to the presidency.

  804. jason says:

    Praise God that he claimed that he changed! ”

    dblaikie is an honest guy.

    He doesn’t claim Trump changed from being not only “very pro choice” but actually pro partial birth abortion, only that he “claimed” he has changed.

  805. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 11:52 am
    That was a skunk doesn’t change his stripes.

    – You tried. You cut and ran from the Republican Party over Trump. I didn’t.

    I’ve been a Republican since the first day I registered to vote in 1995 and I only voted straight party Republican until I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016.

    And unlike you, I have stayed in the party hoping to fend off the long term destruction of Trumpism. You cut and ran like the little b!tch
    you are.

  806. jason says:

    Republican like Hurd, a former CIA agent, wrote something critical about Trump was to question his motives.”

    Why not question his motives?

    This guy is just another Never Trumper who can’t accept the fact Trump won.

    Nothing wrong with questioning his motives.

  807. Chicon says:

    Question – what voter is NOT sending a message?

  808. jason says:

    ran from the Republican Party over Trump. I didn’t”

    zzzzzz….

    Just like you were a Republican who celebrated Obama’s win.

    You are a pathological liar.

    And again, I didn’t leave the party “over Trump”.

    GFY.

  809. Robbie says:

    If you want to see how much Trumpism corrupts, just look to Jason fraud.

    For the last six years, Bill Browder has been celebrated by both Republicans and Democrats for taking a stand against Putin.

    Then the very moment Trump thinks about handing Browder over to Putin on trumped up charges, Jason fraud starts to question Browder and even suggests the Republican Congress was duped by him.

    Trumpism corrupts.

  810. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 12:05 pm
    Republican like Hurd, a former CIA agent, wrote something critical about Trump was to question his motives.”
    Why not question his motives?
    This guy is just another Never Trumper who can’t accept the fact Trump won.
    Nothing wrong with questioning his motives.

    – And you’re just another Trump ball licker who has even started to parrot Trump’s interest of Putin.

  811. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 12:09 pm
    ran from the Republican Party over Trump. I didn’t”
    zzzzzz….
    Just like you were a Republican who celebrated Obama’s win.
    You are a pathological liar.

    – The only pathological liar is you when you claim I celebrated Obama’s win.

  812. jason says:

    but he’ doesn’t give a darn about abortion”

    I actually agree with this.

    Trump is about as pro-life as Amoral Scumbag is a Republican.

    A “Republican” who celebrated Obama’s win, rooted for Hillary to win and the Rs to lose the Senate, and now is rooting for a 40 seat loss in the House.

    But hey, he says he is “fighting Trumpism”.

  813. jason says:

    you claim I celebrated Obama’s win.”

    You did.

    You said you would be here on election night to celebrate Obama’s win.

    You planned on being here to celebrate Hillary’s win too, you were SOOOO disappointed

    And how many seats were you hoping Rs lost? 7?
    That must have hurt.

    Now GFY.

  814. jason says:

    handing Browder over to Putin”

    Another lie and MSM fantasy.

    Browder is not a US citizen, their is no extradition treaty with Russia, and if anyone wants to extradite him it would have to be the Brits.

    But Amoral Scumbag pretends this is really happening.

    And of course, if he thought it would be detrimental to Trump, he would extradite his own mother to Russia without a second thought.

  815. jason says:

    “there” is no extradition.

  816. dblaikie says:

    I was going to address you inane posts to about me and your twisted view of repentance (Trump said he was wrong and then acted on it by his appointments). Repentance is validated by deeds.

    But you response to Jason is simply over the top: ” And you’re just another Trump ball licker who has even started to parrot Trump’s interest of Putin.” Once again not cogently or even weakly defending your own ideas and claims, but instead trying to belittle someone else. Frankly, I felt my friend Jason was too strong in calling you an “amoral scumbag” but now I am starting to see his logic. Again, address the point, in this time of anti Trump madness what is wrong with questioning the motives of a known anti Trumper. And by the don’t throw ex CIA at us, John Brennan was ex CIA, James Comey and Andrew Macabe were ex FBI. And yes I definitely question their motives. Why shouldn’t we?

  817. jason says:

    Browder may well be the victim he purports to be. But I am just pointing out that there are other versions, one put out by a film make that has been consistently anti-Putin.

    And of course I never suggested he be handed over by anybody without due process.

    https://euobserver.com/foreign/133221

  818. Tina says:

    Jason, good post in 836. I summarized the same to the Jebot.

    Browder is not our problem,
    Lehrer also happens to be no extradiction treaty betweens Russia and the U.K.

  819. jason says:

    I felt my friend Jason was too strong in calling you an “amoral scumbag” but now I am starting to see his logic.”

    If you look at his posts over the last decade you will see the M.O. never changes.

    McCain, Romney, Rubio, Christie, Walker, Trump. No attack is ever too scurrilous or too low. If his desire to overturn the election happened, he would be here with whatever the MSM threw at Pence the next day. You could bet on day 1 he would be here pegging Pence as to the right of Genghis Khan, a neanderthal committed to taking us back to the Dark Ages. That is what he does.

    That is why his claim to be fighting “Trumpism” is such a joke.

  820. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    July 20, 2018 at 12:24 pm
    I was going to address you inane posts to about me and your twisted view of repentance (Trump said he was wrong and then acted on it by his appointments). Repentance is validated by deeds.

    – Repentance is only given when someone is truly sorry for their past actions and when they ask for forgiveness. That’s the Catholic understanding so are you calling my faith twisted? You don’t get to do whatever you want then just appoint pro-life judges and say everything’s cool.

    More importantly, what is the evidence Trump has asked for forgiveness? In a 2015 interview with Frank Luntz, Luntz asked Trump whether he has ever asked God for forgiveness for his actions.

    Trump responded, “I am not sure I have.” So if Trump has never asked for forgiveness, how can he have repented? You can’t have one without the other.

    I get it though. You like that Trump’s appointing conservative judges. I do as well. But don’t claim appointing conservative judges, in and of itself, is a redemptive act because it’s not. You can only gain redemption after you have asked for forgiveness. Trump, by his own words, has not asked for forgiveness.

  821. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 20, 2018 at 12:35 pm
    I felt my friend Jason was too strong in calling you an “amoral scumbag” but now I am starting to see his logic.”
    If you look at his posts over the last decade you will see the M.O. never changes.
    McCain, Romney, Rubio, Christie, Walker, Trump. No attack is ever too scurrilous or too low

    – What Jason fraud has never understood is a person can be critical of a candidate and still support the candidate.

    Jason fraud wants uniformity in thought about the candidates he likes. If he doesn’t get it, he goes off the deep end.

  822. Robbie says:

    Evan McMurry
    @evanmcmurry

    BREAKING: Investigators discovered recordings made by former Trump attorney Michael Cohen that include then-candidate Donald Trump speaking about paying former Playboy model Karen McDougal, sources confirm to @ABC.

  823. Chicon says:

    844 – So what?

    The public was aware he was a pig prior to voting for him. They’re not required to use your moral standards when deciding who to hire as President.

  824. lisab says:

    But the reality is, it has to haunt these Stein voters to know they could have prevented, by themselves, the horrors they now experience, with their own free votes.
    ————————–

    i was a stein voter,

    no, it does not bother me at all.

    had stein not been on the ballot, i would have voted for the libertarian candidate over hillary.

    had the only two on the ballot been hillary and trump, i would have voted for trump (i would not leave it blank because someone could fill in hillary after the fact).

    i would not have voted for hillary under almost any circumstances.

    and … all the stuff from comey, the fbi, antifa, and trolls like robbie have pretty much confirmed that i was right not to vote for hillary … or the dems (as i will be a minnesota voter starting this fall), because they have zero respect for the election process.

  825. Phil says:

    Was the playboy model a Russian agent?

    No? Then who cares?

  826. lisab says:

    Phil,

    it is the rules for radicals strategy,

    “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

    they do not care at all about adultery, but they want evangelicals and social cons to abandon trump because of it

    what they don’t get yet is that evangelicals, and other social cons, do NOT see trump as one of their own. they see him as someone who is good on the economy, taxes, judges, illegal immigration, the military etc., who does not hate christians.

    they see the dems as the opposite.

  827. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #844
    Robbie strikes again by delivering a half truth just like he did by omitting parts two and three of the recent Roger Stone interview. Here is exculpatory evidence in the NY Times article regarding Trump’s alleged payment in above post # 844:

    “The president’s current personal lawyer and Mr. Cohen confirmed the conversation and said it showed Trump did nothing wrong, The New York Times reported Friday. ABC News and The Washington Post confirmed the report as well.”

    Robbie is truly a sad sack.

  828. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie
    I guess that the Muh Russia scandal has somewhat faded,so the sex scandal stuff has to create the next week of hysteria!

  829. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This is what passes for news and comment at Red Racing Horses:

    BREAKING: Ohio State says over 100 ex-students shared accounts of sexual misconduct by now-dead team doctor under investigation.
    https://twitter.com/AP/status/1020354523423019010

    “Probably best if Jordan just resigns and is never seen again.”

    Comment by Election Brown

    Yes, guilty until proven innocent! He did get blasted by another poster.

  830. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “If you look at his posts over the last decade you will see the M.O. never changes. McCain, Romney, Rubio, Christie, Walker, Trump. No attack is ever too scurrilous or too low

    – What Jason fraud has never understood is a person can be critical of a candidate and still support the candidate.”

    So we should assume that Robbie’s continual attack on Republican candidates is a sign that he secretly supports them. Who is he trying to kid? And he wonders why there is not a person on this board who takes him seriously.

    And by the way, Robbie some of the crude language you us is inappropriate.

  831. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    This has Moshem going crazy at Red Racing Horses:

    MOSHEM
    July 20, 2018 at 1:17 pm
    Big news for #OH12 and for Ohio Dems running in 2018.

    In heavily Republican Delaware County, of the 1,785 absentee ballots requested by Thursday afternoon, 62.1 percent were marked for Democrats while 37.9 percent were marked Republican.

    https://t.co/KgJeCObAc1 #ohgov #OHSen

    1) These are requests and not returned ballots
    2) In the recent primaries, the GOP candidates received over 25,000 more votes
    3) Even at the 20+% spread, we are talking 300 votes. in the primaries, 100,000+ votes were cast
    4) The article notes that Democrat absentee ballot requests were sent a week before the GOP sent theirs.

    Lastly, because of this article, Charlie Cook today moved OH CD-12 from Lean R to toss-up.

    Ihope to see Strawdog reply to Moshem.

  832. Toast says:

    Where’s Mr.Vito?

  833. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    From Los Angeles times “California gained a meager 800 net jobs in June, while the unemployment rate held steady at a record low of 4.2%, according to data released Friday by the state’s Employment Development Department.”

    The June numbers represent a pullback from May, when the Golden State added 7,200 jobs. And the gains in May were much smaller than April, when employers boosted payrolls by nearly 26,000.

    The slowdown could signal that California is simply reaching full employment as employers struggle to find workers. Or it could be a sign of sagging confidence among executives. A growing trade war with China, for example, has unnerved companies in California’s logistics industry and beyond.

    No matter how the Los Angeles Times tries to sugar coat this, it is pathetic. The claim that California is “reaching full employment” is nonsense, as any visitor can tell by all the homeless on the streets. A major reason for stagnant job growth is a lot of employers are moving jobs out-of-state because of California’s onerous regulations and high tax rates.

  834. Tina says:

    We went from muh handover to muh Russian spy to muh phone.

  835. Tina says:

    We get muh stormy news,

    Glad that non leaker, Fuhrer Mukehead is still well leaking,

  836. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    One has to wonder what the result would have been of Trump’s European summit if he had not gone with a chip on his shoulder, and had exercised some tact in choice of words. I can appreciate the benefit of Trump being disruptive and tearing apart the failed, existing status quo. But there is a point where Trump needs to show he can be an effective rebuilder as well.

  837. lisab says:

    Maxine Waters backers burn stolen American flag

  838. Redmen4ever says:

    Can Manafort get immunity if he offers to testify against Podesta?

  839. Chicon says:

    One of Robbie’s favorite girls to look at on the Internet – Kimberly Guilfoyle – is leaving Fox News.

  840. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is an excellent article by Victor Davis Hanson about NATO, and why Trump is challenging its current status:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/nato-biggest-challenge-is-germany-not-america/

  841. Robbie says:

    I’ve been at 40 seats since last October.

    Charles Gasparino
    @CGasparino

    I know it’s a long way to the midterms but dems I talk to say they pick up at least 50 seats in the house and @RepMaxineWaters becomes chair of the financial services committee

  842. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    July 20, 2018 at 5:09 pm
    One of Robbie’s favorite girls to look at on the Internet – Kimberly Guilfoyle – is leaving Fox News.

    – Meh. It sounds like the split was not amicable. It was hard to see how she could comment on Trump when she was in a relationship with Don Jr. I think she’s going to work for a pro-Trump super-pac.

  843. DW says:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
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    OH_01 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 — 43/42 (PPP)
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    NC_13 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.6 — 43/40 (PPP) | 40/35 (Civitas)
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    IA_03 R | 198 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 44/43 (PPP) | 41/45 (D-Int.)
    MT_01 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | 2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
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    ME_02 R | 201 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 — 45/35
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    KY_06 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 205 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 — 47/43 | 45/39 (Salt Lake Trib.)
    KS_03 R | 206 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 —
    OH_12* R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.5 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics) | 48/43 (D-Int.)
    VA_07 R | 208 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.3 —
    KS_02* R | 209 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.3 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    WI_01* R | 210 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.3 —
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 —
    IL_06 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.1 — 45/44 (Garin-Hart-Yang-D)
    TX_07 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    CA_45 R | 214 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 1 — 43/46 (PPP)
    NC_09* R | 215 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 42/37 (PPP) | 36/43 (Civitas) | 43/44 (D-Int)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 41/42 (PPP) | 45/47 (GQR-D)
    PA_01 R | 217 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 49/42
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    IL_12 R | 218 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.6 — 44/39 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    NY_19 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.5 — 41/43 (PPP)
    TX_23 R | 215 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 44/43 (PPP)
    IA_01 R | 214 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.3 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    WA_08* R | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.3 — 51/45
    CA_10 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 49/42 (Srat. 360-D) | 45/40 (GSG-D)
    CA_48 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/44 (D-Internal) | 45/47 (Monmouth)
    CO_06 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 —
    NY_22 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/40 (DCCC-D)
    PA_17 R | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.3 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 200 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.8 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    PA_07* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.8 —
    VA_10 R | 198 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.3 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.5 —
    CA_49* R | 196 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 — 41/44 (Feldman) | 46/43 (R-Int)
    NV_03* D | 195 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.3 —
    AZ_01 D | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.5 —
    NV_04* D | 191 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.6 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3 —
    MN_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3.3 —
    PA_08 D | 188 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.3 —
    NJ_05 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    PA_06* R | 186 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 185 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -4 —
    NJ_02* R | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4 — 39/44 (PPP)
    PA_05* R | 183 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.6 —
    AZ_09* D | 182 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.6 —
    NH_02 D | 181 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.6 —
    CT_05* D | 180 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | -4.6 —
    FL_13 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5 —
    WI_03 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    CA_24 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    NY_18 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    IA_02 D | 175 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.3 —
    NY_25 D | 174 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.3 —

    *indicates open seat

  844. Todd McCain says:

    Dems also thought they were winning back the House and taking back the Senate in 2016…..

  845. Phil says:

    Democrats think they’ll pick up 50 seats? LOL

    I’ll take that bet. The Democratic Party continues to deal in dilusion. They can’t help themselves. Democrat live in one giant bubble. Hilarious.

  846. Chicon says:

    SDC – good article by VDH. Jason will not like it – asking the members to pay what they’ve promised to pay (an increase) is somehow an isolationist position. That’s right…seeking to strengthen an alliance is evidence of isolationism by Trump.

    Also, is VDH a Robbie-approved writer? If so, we could have trouble….

  847. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 20, 2018 at 3:07 pm
    “If you look at his posts over the last decade you will see the M.O. never changes. McCain, Romney, Rubio, Christie, Walker, Trump. No attack is ever too scurrilous or too low
    – What Jason fraud has never understood is a person can be critical of a candidate and still support the candidate.”
    So we should assume that Robbie’s continual attack on Republican candidates is a sign that he secretly supports them. Who is he trying to kid? And he wonders why there is not a person on this board who takes him seriously.
    And by the way, Robbie some of the crude language you us is inappropriate.

    – I really don’t care what you think, especially after you came bounding into this forum with your MAGA hat on to tell me I’m not a Republican or a conservative because I don’t like Trump. Truthfully, I think it’s hilarious someone like you, who believes Trump should let Jared and Ivanka (both liberals) run the show from time to time, questions whether someone else is a Republican and a conservative.

    Also, I think the way Jason fraud has acted here for the last decade or so has been inappropriate, but no one has bothered to police the forum so I’m not going to unilaterally disarm and let his attacks that started back in 2008 with his buddy Howard Dean slide by without an answer. I didn’t unilaterally disarm back in 2012 when JT attacked nor did I unilaterally disarm when soccer guru (aka Trump) attacked. And you know what, neither did Jason fraud, Bitterlaw, MD, Author, EML, and Wes.

    Finally, I’ve been a Republican since 1995 when I first registered to vote. Unlike you, I took a stand and joined a party. You, on the other hand, apparently thought you were too good for a particular party since you claim to be an Independent. So who are you kidding? What about being an Independent makes you an expert in what a Republican and a conservative can think about particular Republican candidates?

    I’m sure you root for various teams. When you criticize the way your favorite team plays or the moves a coach makes, does that mean you’re secretly not a fan? Maybe Rasmussen can conduct a poll on that for you.

  848. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 20, 2018 at 1:42 pm
    Was the playboy model a Russian agent?
    No? Then who cares?

    – Phil, I’m not directing this at you. I’m using your comment as a jumping off point.

    I’m old enough to remember when FoxNews and conservatives melted down when Obama wore a brown suit.

    I’m also old enough to remember when conservatives said morality mattered in 1998 with Clinton.

  849. Chicon says:

    When Trump gets down in the dirt and verbally battles someone, Robbie thinks he should be “above that” because it brings Trump down, too.

    When Robbie is attacked by someone on a message board he says refusing to respond in kind is “unilateral disarmament”, so he MUST respond in kind.

    I love this place.

  850. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    July 20, 2018 at 2:48 pm
    #844
    Robbie strikes again by delivering a half truth just like he did by omitting parts two and three of the recent Roger Stone interview. Here is exculpatory evidence in the NY Times article regarding Trump’s alleged payment in above post # 844:
    “The president’s current personal lawyer and Mr. Cohen confirmed the conversation and said it showed Trump did nothing wrong, The New York Times reported Friday. ABC News and The Washington Post confirmed the report as well.”
    Robbie is truly a sad sack.

    – Oh, I get it. If muh super lawyer Rudy says it, it must be true. He would never shade something to make his client look better, right?

    So when Cohen’s lawyer tells CNN later in the day that the tape does not exonerate Trump as Rudy says, is that supposed to be treated in the same way as Rudy’s comments were? Or do we just assume since Trump has a R after his name, his lawyer is being honest and everyone else is lying?

    And by the way Sheeple (what a perfect name for a Trumper), all I did was repost a tweet. I made no editorial comment about it.

  851. Chicon says:

    871 – “I’m also old enough to remember when conservatives said morality mattered in 1998 with Clinton.”

    They seem to have changed their mind. Next question.

  852. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    July 20, 2018 at 2:55 pm
    Robbie
    I guess that the Muh Russia scandal has somewhat faded,so the sex scandal stuff has to create the next week of hysteria!

    – Nope. Trump’s display in Helsinki was one of the lowest moments in the history of the American presidency and it will stick with him for a long time. Rasmussen, the greatest pollster on the planet I have been told, shows Trump at just 44% after the summit. No one has mentioned Rasmussen this week in this forum. I wonder why? And a CBS poll showed America did not approve of the way Trump acted at the summit either.

  853. Tina says:

    We went from muh Russia to my stormy,

    Where is amniotic?

    He could be a veep in 2020

  854. Chicon says:

    875 – not that you care, but Rasmussen has been discussed every day on this thread.

  855. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 20, 2018 at 5:59 pm
    Democrats think they’ll pick up 50 seats? LOL
    I’ll take that bet. The Democratic Party continues to deal in dilusion. They can’t help themselves. Democrat live in one giant bubble. Hilarious

    – Fifty seats seems high, but 63 seats seemed very high in July 2010. I still think 40 and have said that since last October. The generic spread remains at 8 or so in RCP.

    If the bottom falls out for Trump, it could happen. In waves, things always skew in one direction. Remember how Rostenkowski and Foley shockingly lost in 1994?

  856. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    July 20, 2018 at 6:10 pm
    When Trump gets down in the dirt and verbally battles someone, Robbie thinks he should be “above that” because it brings Trump down, too.
    When Robbie is attacked by someone on a message board he says refusing to respond in kind is “unilateral disarmament”, so he MUST respond in kind.
    I love this place.

    – There’s a big difference I figured chicon would notice.

    I’m not the president. Trump is.

    I don’t have a unique responsibility to safeguard the dignity of the office.

    I’m one of 330,000,000 people in the country venting in a website forum. This is the wild west.

  857. Phil says:

    Robbie, I think we all learned in the Clinton administration in the 90s, at least politically speaking, that morality doesn’t matter. It didn’t matter with Bill and it doesn’t matter with Trump. Hell, it didn’t matter when Ted drove off a bridge, drowned a girl, and left her to die. He became the Lion of the Senate. Maybe it should matter but it doesn’t.

  858. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie
    You forgot to include the 50+ seats the Democrats will take-over next January. Please list.
    In all seriousness, which GOP seats do you,personally, think will go down?
    Are these the same Democrats who predicted in 2016 that H. Clinton would win over 400 electoral votes?
    You know that Charlie Gasparino loathes Trump.

    In #875, you omit certain information. To wit:
    1- Trump and the GOP are surging in the Reuters/Ipsos Poll this week.
    2- In Rasmussen(less), Trump dropped all of two pts. in approval after Helsinki.
    3- Was Helsinki “lower” than the Iran Nuclear Agreement in which “Mr. Brown Suit” gave $100 billion to our #1 enemy and #1 terrorist state for nothing?

    Your new handle should be “Half-Truth Robbie”.

  859. Robbie says:

    881

    “Surging in the Reuters/Ipsos poll this week.” LOL.

    Use the RCP average.

  860. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 20, 2018 at 6:28 pm
    Robbie, I think we all learned in the Clinton administration in the 90s, at least politically speaking, that morality doesn’t matter. It didn’t matter with Bill and it doesn’t matter with Trump. Hell, it didn’t matter when Ted drove off a bridge, drowned a girl, and left her to die. He became the Lion of the Senate. Maybe it should matter but it doesn’t.

    – There are plenty of instances where it has mattered and just in the recent past.

    Al Franken
    Eric Greitens
    Trent Franks
    Tim Murphy
    Roy Moore
    John Conyers

  861. Phil says:

    I could see Democrats winning 25 to 30 seats. I really could. You can’t get to 50 moving hard left and that is what Democrats have been doing. They simply cannot help themselves. The reason is simple – that is who they really are. Plays good in urban areas. They already have those seats. You’d have to win seats like Nebraska-2. Ain’t happening. In that particular district they nominated a whacko leftist. Tx 32 would have to go. The talk of Abolishing ICE has probably eliminated that possibility.

    Democrats won’t get 40 or 50. To get there they would need to pick off the three so called vulnerable seats in Tx. I don’t even think they’ll get one – the 27th will even stay red. Dems nominated a far left gay Hispanic for governor at the top of the ticket. See what I mean? Democrats can’t help themselves. Screwed themselves down ballot.

  862. Chicon says:

    879 – no difference at all. Your position is that Trump responding in kind to personal attacks is ineffectual and demeans him. But not when you do it, that is ok.

    First Commandment says something about treating others as you wish to be treated. Remember the turn the other cheek feel thing? You feel free to respond in kind, but condemn Trump for doing the same. Either you should follow your own advice or lay off Trump for that. That is, if you’d like at least a veneer of consistency.

  863. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Pete the cheats testimony about the wiener laptop cntradicts another FBI investigator, oig.

    Pete the cheat is the gift that keeps on giving.

  864. Phil says:

    Nobody cares who Trump screwed before he got into office. The ones screaming about it are the ones who scream about everything Trump.

    You think I or anyone else on the right is going to vote for a Democrat for Congress over any of that stuff? If Clinton got blown in the WH on a daily basis and left office with a 60% approval I doubt Trump’s past infidelity is going to move the electorate. So much for protecting the dignity of the presidency BTW. Those voters leaning right aren’t going to put Pelosi in charge of the House…..and that is what it would take in red districts to get anywhere close to 50 seats. It would be cutting off your nose despite your face.

  865. Tina says:

    ired Sources
    @WiredSources
    JUST IN: Less than 1% Americans believe Russia is the ‘biggest problem’ facing our country, according to new Gallup poll

  866. Phil says:

    That poll can’t be right, Tina. It’s a huge issue. I know because that’s all they talk about on CNN.

  867. Tina says:

    Phil, it is also talked about her by the resident, drat troll.

  868. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart Retweeted
    An Open Secret
    An Open Secret
    @AnOpenSecret
    ·
    3h
    Today was a great day for the good guys

    Cheri Jacobus fired from USA Today for child rape comments against Trump supporter’s children

    James Gunn fired from Disney for numerous tweets about child sex abuse & rape

  869. mnw says:

    Sheep 853

    I’m too tired to worry about Moshem’s Ohio Dreamin’. I’m a-leavin’ on a jet plane at 6 am. I’ll still be able to post, though.

    I get really worn down by RRH. Whatever I post, they nitpick to death. Tiresome!

    I keep really close watch over there, & there are only 4 Republicans. Outnumbered by BOTH DEMs AND Libertarians.

  870. jason says:

    What Jason fraud has never understood is a person can be critical of a candidate and still support the candidate.”

    Cool, I guess Amoral Scumbag is a Trump supporter?

    Who knew?

  871. Wobbles says:

    Less than 1% Americans believe Russia is the ‘biggest problem’ facing our country, according to new Gallup poll”

    I got polled!

  872. lisab says:

    One of Robbie’s favorite girls to look at on the Internet – Kimberly Guilfoyle – is leaving Fox News.
    —————

    robbie does not look at girls

    he just follows their twitter accounts

  873. lisab says:

    it is weird that the dems, who have for years said that alternative sexual lifestyles are absolutely fine

    think that trump’s alleged heterosexual encounters are beyond that pale

    suddenly the sanctity of marriage is very important to them

  874. Bitterlaw says:

    If Trump had an affair with a man the Left would have to work really hard to make it a bad thing.

  875. Paul says:

    The left didn’t Kevin Spacey a pass because he was gay.

  876. lisab says:

    trump could have an affair with a polyamorous mtf albino left-handed eskimo lesbian transexual who was in to spanking

    and the dems would be fine with it, except for the fact his name was trump

    but have an affair with a playboy model …

    that is over the line

  877. Wobbles says:

    “If Trump had an affair with a man”

    If it was with Jeb I would kill myself.

  878. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie did not celebrate Obama’s victory. He celebrated Romney’s loss. Totally unrelated.

  879. jason says:

    I can see Bitter in court right now…

    Your Honor, my client did not kill the victim, the victim was killed by my client.

  880. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag did not call for a brokered convention, he hoped one would happen.

    And he doesn’t want Republicans to lose 40 seats, he wants Democrats to win 40 seats.

  881. Wobbles says:

    Your new handle should be “Half-Truth Robbie”.

    Hey, moron, why should I tell half truths when with hardly any more effort I can tell complete lies.

  882. Tina says:

    Mnw, make sure your pilot is not Rottie. Rottie is rumouered to kick Rs off planes. Ok, we are pretending here.

    Have a nice flight to,parts unknown.

  883. Tina says:

    Real con David French (the last name says too much) tweets support for the marvel, pedo director.

  884. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “The U.S. is planning to send an additional $200 million defense funds to the government of Ukraine amid its ongoing struggle with pro-Russian separatists.
    The Defense Department announced in a press release Friday that the decision from the Trump administration “reaffirms the long-standing defense relationship between the United States and Ukraine,” while bringing the total aid provided to Ukraine since the annexation of Crimea in 2014 up to $1 billion.
    “The added funds will provide equipment to support ongoing training programs and operational needs, including capabilities to enhance Ukraine’s command and control, situational awareness systems, secure communications, military mobility, night vision, and military medical treatment,” the statement reads.
    Citing a recently-passed Ukrainian law boosting cybersecurity coordination between the country and NATO, the Pentagon noted that the new reforms would improve Ukraine’s ability to defend against future territorial aggression, a clear reference to Russia.
    “The implementation of these reforms will bolster Ukraine’s ability to defend its territorial integrity in support of a secure and democratic Ukraine,” the press release reads.
    Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio) who sits on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and founded the Senate Ukraine Caucus, cheered Friday’s announcement which he called “a clear message that America stands with the Ukrainian people in their struggle…against Russian aggression.”
    The Trump administration announced last December that the U.S. military would begin sending lethal aid to Ukraine, a departure from Obama White House policy. Obama administration officials repeatedly refused to provide the country with lethal aid in its struggle against Russian-backed paramilitary forces, worried that such a move would escalate future conflict.”

    Note that Trump has given Ukraine weapons that Obama refused to provide.

  885. GF says:

    Midnight Run turns 30 this year. In honor of MD and all the good times, I’d like to invite everyone to have a cream soda and relax.

  886. Bitterlaw says:

    I had an eventful night. My blood sugar got so low my wife woke and found me having a seizure in bed. She called 911. Very strange to wake up in bed with an ambulance crew asking questions. I thought it was a weird dream. Apparently not. I am the hospital because they said my potassium level is very low. Weekend sucks already,

  887. Messy says:

    885. No, the first commandment was about God’s existence and whether or not one should worship other gods.

    The Golden Rule is found elsewhere in the Bible.

  888. Tina says:

    Bl, hope you are feeling better and can leave soon.

  889. Bitterlaw says:

    Thanks, Tina. I should be out of the hospital in a few hours. Just the risk of being an insulin addict.

  890. jason says:

    Hey Bitter, hope you feel better and can get out of there asap.

    I can’t deal with all the trolls, idiots and deadenders myself.

  891. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Bitter
    Feel better! I can commiserate with what you are going through.

  892. jason says:

    When Trump gets down in the dirt and verbally battles someone, Robbie thinks he should be “above that” because it brings Trump down, too.’

    The only reason Amoral Scumbag doesn’t want Trump to defend himself is that he doesn’t want the MSM’s narrative to be challenged.

    Since he subscribes to everything the MSM puts out, it irritates him that Trump actually has been able to get out there and show the MSM for what it is, dishonest, partisan and unprofessional.

    It also probably irks him that as a really positive result of Trump’s refusal to unilaterally disarm, public trust in the MSM is probably the lowest it has ever been.

    And you can bet the reason that Trump’s base has stuck with him is the fact that any Republican or conservative that gives the MSM any credence is an idiot.

    Oh wait….

  893. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag hardest hit.

    “Like most controversies that have dogged the administration, it is difficult to tell whether this one will have legs through the midterms, given the fast pace of the news cycle and short attention span of the public. Some Republican strategists say that the intense media scrutiny and Democratic attacks could further endear Republican voters to the president.

    “It feels to me like every time the Trump administration gets into an issue where everybody says, ‘Oh, gosh, this is going to hurt,’ the Democrats immediately shift into hysterical overdrive and mitigate what the damage could have been,” said Kentucky-based Republican strategist Scott Jennings, noting that the border crisis has morphed into a largely derided discussion about abolishing Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

    “I thought it was a misstep and the attempt to clean it up was not well-handled,” Jennings said of the Helsinki controversy. “But if you’re a regular old rank-and-file Republican out in Middle America and you’re watching all of this on television … there’s two sides: There’s the president and then there’s the [hysteria]. Who are you going to side with if you’re a Republican?”

    Who indeed?

  894. Chicon says:

    The “true conservative” can always write in Donald Duck to SEND A MESSAGE. After all, that’s what deadenders do, eh?

  895. Chicon says:

    Bitter, have a Coke and get outta there; too many sick people there.

  896. Tina says:

    The Jebot side made the following remarks post Meeting with pooty poot

    Subpoena the translator (good luck there).

    Treason

    Replace trump with Hillary

    The President has the power to meet with whomever he wants to. It is best to try to get along with Russia, not ignore them. The jebots wanted to start a war with them. They are reckless and unhinged.

  897. Tina says:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07/indicted-russian-company-concord-management-taunts-mueller-cites-kavanaugh-decision-to-argue-junk-bot-case-be-dismissed/

    The attorneys for concord mgmt have tied up poor Fuhrer ?Mulehead and his 13 angry Ds.

    They cite Judge Kavanaugh,

  898. Tina says:

    Conversation
    Nick Short ??
    Nick Short ??
    @PoliticalShort
    ‘White House Should Defend Diplomats,’ Says Clinton, Who Let Them Die

    Hillary is the gift that keeps on giving.

  899. dblaikie says:

    Just read that in San Francisco non citizens (both legal and illegal) are going to be allowed to vote. The excuse is that these folks have a right as parents to have a voice on who will be on the School Board. Of course the measure doesn’t exclude non-married non citizens. In their stupidity liberal land will soon be dotted with Cities who go down this road. Soon loon places like Portland will follow.

    What this has done is to further lock-in that immigration will be the dominant issue in our country. What I can’t believe is that the Democrats have allowed themselves to be labeled as the pro open border anti-security party. And with their words and their actions it is a label that sicks and rings true.

    Of course the other big defining issue that their rage has brought to fore in this election is Impeachment. They just couldn’t help themselves.

    So lets see, their agenda and platform is open borders without security and putting the Nation through the ordeal of Impeachment over misstatements in a press conference. What a hopeful positive agenda they have developed!

    The biggest political joke in our country come November will be the great oncoming blue wave.

  900. dblaikie says:

    932 Hillary with her arrogance and hubris will never even realize that she will never overcome the fact that she let five good fellow citizens be killed. I hope she runs. It will be fun to watch her own party eat her alive!!!

  901. Tina says:

    _P_O_O_K_Y
    This is a curious fact: #NeverTrump Talking Heads Rush to Protect Pedophilia Obsessed Director James Gunn – why would people like @benshapiro support a man who speaks well of pedophilia? https://bigleaguepolitics.com/nevertrump-talking-heads-rush-to-protect-pedophilia-obsessed-director-james-gunn/ … via @BigLeaguePol
    5:30 AM – Jul 21, 2018

    The never trumpets are frauds.

  902. jason says:

    Dumb Dumb Cortez

    She wants to flip a seat red.”

    She meant communist red, give her a break.

  903. Bitterlaw says:

    I may not make it out alive. They won’t give me insulin until I eat. But my blood sugar will go high if I don’t have insulin. I was almost going to ask the doctor, “Did you skip the diabetic lecture in med school?” but he might send me to the psych ward.

  904. jason says:

    “The “true conservative” can always write in Donald Duck to SEND A MESSAGE.

    I think this bait had my name on it.

    I never considered voting for Donald Duck, my candidate was Daffy Duck, GFY.

  905. jason says:

    Bitter, have a slice of fried scrapple, I always feel better after 3 slices.

  906. Tina says:

    A true conservative can write in Hillary next time

    Jebot

  907. jason says:

    Trump’s display in Helsinki was one of the lowest moments in the history of the American presidency

    LOL. Hyperbole much? How does it compare with Clinton sticking a cigar into an intern in the Oval Office. Or Obama telling the country “you can keep your doctor and your rates will go down”

    Rasmussen, the greatest pollster on the planet I have been told, shows Trump at just 44% after the summit.”

    Oh my goodness. Horrors.

    There is only one problem with this. On July 16, the day of the summit, it was 45%.

    IT DROPPED ONE POINT.

    And note that Amoral Scumbag, when Rasmussen shows a low poll number for Trump, all of a sudden jumps on it like a fly on a turd.

  908. Bitterlaw says:

    I think my floor has many elderly patients. Some must have dementia since they yell odd things. However, Ivstill have not heard anybody yell JEB! so nobody is too far gone.

  909. Phil says:

    It takes more than a ride in an ambulance to sap Bitter’s sense of humor. Hang in there, buddy.

  910. Wobbles says:

    Look the fact that Trump went from 45% to 44% is just stupendous.

    It means the sordid MSM coverage has worked.

  911. jason says:

    However, Ivstill have not heard anybody yell JEB! so nobody is too far gone.”

    LOL

  912. Bitterlaw says:

    I am now old. The overnight nurse in the ER looked like a high school student.

  913. Hugh says:

    Bitter. Get better fast

  914. dblaikie says:

    Bitter, you are in my prayers for a quick recovery!

  915. jason says:

    The Philly A-hole Club has issued the following press release:

    “We wish our founding member Bitterlaw a speedy and full recovery. The A-hole community is a tight one and we are all A-holes for one and one A-hole for all.

    Signed

    The A-holes”

  916. lisab says:

    The overnight nurse in the ER looked like a high school student.
    —————-

    wait until she gives you a bath … that will be funny … i mean … ummmmmmmm … get well soon

  917. lisab says:

    REFUGEES FROM WAR-TORN SYRIA NOW FLEEING NEW JERSEY BECAUSE OF HIGH TAXES AND VIOLENCE

  918. Bitterlaw says:

    Thank you for all the kind wishes for my recovery.

    GFY

  919. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Hi Bitter: Sorry to hear about about your health issue; hope you get better soon. Your in our prayers.

  920. Bitterlaw says:

    I am getting released. Thank you all. SDC’s prayers sealed the deal. Lisa hardest hit.

  921. Gpo says:

    Good luck BL

  922. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    944. “Thank you all. SDC’s prayers sealed the deal.”

    Actually, you might want to know what we prayed for — your now Trump’s ambassador to Peru.

  923. jason says:

    Peru?

    Bitter will need to brush up on llamas.

  924. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The NY Times just released the Carter Page 412 page FISA Court Application. If you like seeing 90% redactions, you will enjoy this document!

    https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/95-carter-page-fisa-documents-foia-release/full/optimized.pdf

  925. Tina says:

    Ruh Roh.

    Steele was compensated by the FBI.

    Disclosed in the heavily Redactstein Fisa Warrant.

  926. Tina says:

    There has been speculation in U.S. MEDIA that the Russian Government was behind the hack.
    US Media?..What happened to the “17” intelligence agencies?
    l

    Run roh.

  927. jason says:

    Glad to know Bitter will live.

    A-holes are not a dime a dozen, even the loss of one would be highly traumatic.

  928. jason says:

    So the FBI agent who says “we will stop Trump” pays a guy on record as saying “he was desperate to keep Trump from being elected”.

    “The memo, based on confidential information, revealed that Mr Steele had discussed Mr Trump with Bruce Ohr, then the US deputy attorney general, before the election.

    Mr Steele said he “was desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president”, according to an account by Mr Ohr quoted in the memo.”

    But Amoral Scumbag is just outraged, I tell you, about Trump’s presser.

  929. Tina says:

    Breaking

    FBI did not disclose to fisa court that the source f the dossier was the Clinton campaign,

    They did so only in subsequent requests.

  930. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Tina, are Ruh Rho and Run roh related? I was at a Korean restaurant recently, and there were people there with names like that.

  931. Tina says:

    A person I know is Sun Rho, Sdc.

  932. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This is a column from Piers Morgan; am seeing more of this, as the shrillness dies down:

    “Whisper it but despite his terrible week, Trump may be absolutely RIGHT to pursue this new bromance with Putin”

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5974603/PIERS-MORGAN-Trump-not-mad-blackmail-victim-just-RIGHT-Russia.html

  933. Tina says:

    Media collude with comedy’s fib.

  934. jason says:

    Of course Trump is right to pursue better relations with Russia.

    Even if Russia meddled in the 2016 election, with even Mueller admitting it did not have anything to do with the outcome, are we not going pursue good relations with Russia?

  935. Tina says:

    Fisa warrant on page allows fib to collect information on anybody else incidentally.

    Gee, I think I said this over a year ago.

    The incidental collection gets them a back door into Trump Tower.

    Makes Trumps statement that the obumbler had his wires tapped very credible.

  936. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “On election day 2016, Donald Trump’s unfavorability rating among American voters — not theoretically, but among the people who actually turned out to vote — was a whopping and unprecedented 60 percent. Hillary Clinton, who’d outspent Trump by roughly a two-to-one margin, lost to him. That was an extraordinary feat.”

  937. lisab says:

    “On election day 2016, Donald Trump’s unfavorability rating among American voters — not theoretically, but among the people who actually turned out to vote — was a whopping and unprecedented 60 percent. Hillary Clinton, who’d outspent Trump by roughly a two-to-one margin, lost to him. That was an extraordinary feat.”
    ————————-

    i actually think that relatively few republicans think of trump as a republican, (although dems think of him as the quintessential republican)

    which is why everytime robbie says, “it does not matter that hillary sold 20% of our uranium to the russians that is “whataboutism” … trump said hit to putin, he should be impeached and hillary should be president!!!”

    no one cares.

    republicans pretty much hold trump to the standards they hold democrats, and they think,

    “trump did not have sex with an intern in the oval office and he didn’t sell any uranium to russia, and he lowered taxes and he is not trying to institute jim crow laws … he is not that bad for a democrat”

    obviously i am exagerating somewhat, but he is not a neocon, he is not middle-class, he is not an evangelical, he was not in the military and he is not on wall street, so he is not a traditional republican.

    he is a business owner, but he is in one of the few businesses where outsourcing is bad … he needs a strong middle class to boost real estate prices, unlike factory owners that want to drive down wages so they move factories overseas

  938. lisab says:

    trump said **hi** to putin,

  939. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    906. “Donald Trump’s unfavorability rating among American voters — not theoretically, but among the people who actually turned out to vote — was a whopping and unprecedented 60 percent.”

    Am amazed how many people, even Sanders Democrats, who do not like Trump, but like a lot of the “disruptive” things he is doing to upset the status quo. If the Democrats in 2020 try to advocate the same policies that Hillary did in 2020, I can see a lot of people holding their nose and voting for Trump again. If they go with the far left policies of Sanders/ and some of the crazies. Another group of Democratic voters are likely to defect.

    Being anti-Trump is not enough. The Democrats need to explain how they would run the country better than Trump, and so far all I see is a policy void.

  940. Messy says:

    IT looks like Putin’s trip to Washington might be off. The Sovi…Russian government said that Putin will refuse to go unless spy Maria Butina was set free and charges against dropped. Even Trump won’t do that. He’d have a veto-proof congress if he did.

    In other news, the DNC finally got it’s subpoena served on Jared Kushner.

  941. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #964
    Messy The Moron: Why no mention of the release of the Carter Page FISA Application? It is a bombshell!
    You should do more critical reading to enhance your 3rd grade intelligence.

  942. Messy says:

    Well, for one thing, a Democratic president would appoint judges who support the concept that the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment makes the Bill of Rights effective on the states.

    Secondly, they would actually try to protect the environment.

    Thirdly, they would have a sensible tax structure that encourages growth and lowers the deficit. Something that the Republicans have so far refused to do.

    Fourthly, they’re going to have to be friendly to our friends and less so to our adversaries,

    Fifthly, they would be pro-consumer. ALEC and it’s minions HATE consumers.

    I could go on.

  943. Tina says:

    So, looks like McCabe, Yates, and comedy committed felonies.

    They signed on to fisa or the extensions attesting to being in compliance with Woods, while testifying no vetting to congress.

    They never vet the sources and sub sources.

    This is huge problem,

  944. Bitterlaw says:

    I support the right of FBI agents to try to stop any person from being electronic to any office – but only after they resign from the FBI and do not use information while employed by the FBI.

  945. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump is not a Republican. I prefer that he run in 2020 as the “Anti-Democrat Party” nominee.

  946. Tina says:

    Sean Davis
    @seanmdav
    ·
    8h
    DOJ and FBI falsely attested to the FISA court not once, not twice, not thrice, but four (!) separate times that Steele was not the source of Isikoff’s September 23 article, which DOJ used to corroborate claims from Steele’s dossier. In fact, Steele was the only source.

  947. Tina says:

    Andrew McCarthy – “I said this could never happen. This is so bad that they should be looking at the judges who signed off on this stuff, not just the people who gave it. It is so bad it screams out at you.” On the whole FISA scam which led to the rigged Mueller Witch Hunt!

    They need to suspend the fisa judges involved ASAP.

  948. Tina says:

    https://t.co/JKfKPtQJAi?amp=1

    Andrew Mccarthys take on fox here.

  949. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Bitter
    I hope you are on your game today after yesterday’s hospital visit.
    Stay well.

  950. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Have there been any sightings of AG Sessions within the past few weeks or do we have a “Weekend at Bernie’s” scenario going?

  951. Tina says:

    There has been a disastrous sighting or appearance by Lil Marco on fake flappers program.

    He cannot possibly be that dumb, or can he?

  952. Tina says:

    The Fisa Warrant was based on a broad mosaic of facts.

    Comedy

  953. Robbie says:

    I was shocked to learn Devin Nunes was LYING about the Carter Page FISA warrant. Just shocked. Who could have ever imagined Nunes would lie? Me. That’s who.

    On four separate occasions, FISA judges (all Republican appointees) agreed with the government there was probable cause to believe Carter Page was acting as a foreign agent (aka a spy) for Russia.

    Even better, Jake Tapper got Carter Page to admit on CNN this morning he was an informal advisor to the Kremlin.

    No wonder Tinfoil is screaming into her pillow this morning.

  954. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 22, 2018 at 10:04 am
    The Fisa Warrant was based on a broad mosaic of facts.
    Comedy

    – I bet everyone at HHR was surprised to learn Tinfoil is an expert on FISA warrants.

  955. Robbie says:

    Fortunately, Trump told us in a tweet trade wars are good and easy to win.

    Scott Lincicome
    @scottlincicome

    “Dependent on trade, Mike Pence’s hometown takes a hit due to Trump’s tariffs”
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/politics/dependent-on-trade-mike-pences-hometown-takes-a-hit-due-to-trumps-tariffs/2018/07/21/25fd2bda-8c2e-11e8-8aea-86e88ae760d8_story.html

  956. Tina says:

    Carter page just lit into Lil Marco.

  957. Tina says:

    Page was an FBI asset through mid 2016

    Then he is a Russian plant. Yet, FBI fails to disclose how or why in the fraudulent fisa so.

    Yup.

  958. Robbie says:

    Winning!

    ABC News
    @ABC

    NEW: 33% of Americans approve of the way Pres. Trump handled his meeting with Russian
    President Vladimir Putin, per new @ABC News/WaPo poll; 50% disapprove. http://abcn.ws/2uH7zSr

  959. Robbie says:

    So one place where the public believes Trump is continuing an Obama policy.

    ABC News Politics
    @ABCPolitics

    NEW @ABC News/WaPo poll: 47% say America’s leadership in the world has gotten weaker under Pres. Trump, compared to 30% who say stronger. http://abcn.ws/2uH7zSr

  960. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 22, 2018 at 10:40 am
    Carter page just lit into Lil Marco.

    – I’m sure Rubio is quaking in his boots.

  961. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Page 2 , fisa sheot began with Secretary of State. Confirmed by Nunes.

    Over several extensions and initial fisa, based on Steele and the dossier. Nothing else, as alleged under oath by comedy to Congress. Nunes nailed this and confirmed by Andy McCarthy in the link I posted above.

  962. Tina says:

    is Greek for ‘Fake News’ Retweeted
    Sara A. Carter
    Sara A. Carter
    @SaraCarterDC
    ·
    2h
    That is why they fought so hard to keep the FISA documents secrets- it really is that bad.

    Nothing more can be said. This is a huge crime. The coup plotters need to be charged with felonies.

  963. Tina says:

    James Comey testified under oath the dossier was “salacious and unverified” and yet signed off on a FISA where the dossier contents was sworn to be true. WHAT?!!?!?

    I guess we will not be getting anymore tweets from an Iowa cornfield.

    Lawyah up, Jimbo.

  964. Tina says:

    Trump will now likely release the unredacted fisa memo into carter page.

    The jebots will sheot themselves, only drawing more coverage to the abuses by fib

  965. JC says:

    KISSINGER ON TRUMP: “I think Trump may be one of those figures in history who appears from time to time to mark the end of an era and to force it to give up its old pretences. It doesn’t necessarily mean that he knows this, or that he is considering any great alternative. It could just be an accident.”
    —————

    Yep

  966. Tina says:

    July 22, 2018 at 11:37 am
    FISA Application:

    Donald J. Trump is a confirmed foreign agent for the Russian Federation. This is based on the following verified facts:

    1. Former Director of the FBI thinks so, and he has been involved in past legal procedures.
    2. Former Special Agent Strzok thinks so, and he has demonstrated the ability to overcome any bias per the IG report.
    3. The NY Times says so.
    4. CNN says so.
    5. MSNBC says so.

    Found elsewhere.

  967. Tina says:

    The #FISA warrant application revelations has the left unhinged and in a panic.

    The last of their false narrative has disintegrated.

    John cardillo

  968. Tina says:

    Page 53, FBI notes that it ‘has reviewed this verified application for accuracy in accordance with its procedures.’ They never verified it & it’s not accurate, the 2 most important things…they couldn’t even get that right.” -@AndrewCMcCarthy

  969. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    From a critical article about Trump letting Europe down:

    “Germany and other NATO members resent Trump’s public scolding for their failure to meet the alliance’s target of 2% percent of GDP on defense, Vershbow said, but some alliance members privately admit that redoubling their effort to comply with his demands is their only viable option.

    “They don’t like it. They feel there is an element of blackmail involved, but they want to keep NATO functioning,” he said.”

    Sounds like Trump said the things that needed to be said. The free ride is over. Yet our trolls thinks by saying this we have let our NATO allies down.

  970. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    994. The source was the leftist Los Angeles Times

  971. NYCmike says:

    YES!

  972. NYCmike says:

    no

  973. NYCmike says:

    MAYBE

  974. NYCmike says:

    so!