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Can GOP Win in Oregon?

There is a new poll from Gravis Marketing as reported by Real Clear Politics that claims the Republican candidate is currently tied with the current sitting Democratic Governor.

GOVERNOR – OREGON (Gravis)
Kate Brown (D-inc) 45%
Knute Buehler (R) 45%

This poll was done July 16-17 among 770 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 4:53 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (1,156)

1,156 Responses to “Can GOP Win in Oregon?”

  1. Messy says:

    first.

  2. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    An Elizabeth Warren(D-MA) assaults a Republican running for the Senate in MA.The perp gets arrested.

    https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1021147704867590144

  3. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Henry Kissinger’s comment on Trump:

    “I think Trump may be one of those figures in history who appears from time to time to mark the end of an era and to force it to give up its old pretenses”

    Trump is disrupting things that needed to be disrupted.

  4. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    A new NBC/Wall Street Journal National Poll with a D+6 PID taken from 07/16-07/18, 2018( after Helsinki):

    Trump approval/disapproval- 45/52
    Generic Congressional Ballot- 49(D)- 43(R)

    http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/today/z_creative/18570NBCWSJJulyPoll7-22-18Release.pdf

  5. Tina says:

    Bad day for the jebots and fisa coup plotters.

  6. lisab says:

    #2

    Shiva Ayyadurai

    is political poison

    warren is better, he is nuts

  7. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #7
    You miss the point.It’s the violence by Democrats against anyone in which they disagree.

  8. lisab says:

    You miss the point.It’s the violence by Democrats against anyone in which they disagree.
    ———————–

    oh i got the point …

    but i would seriously not put it past him that it was a staged event

    seriously shiva is bad news

    as i have mentioned, i would not have voted for hillary under almost any circumstances, and i would even have voted for trump if hillary and trump were the only two on the ballot

    but if it was shiva vs hillary, i would have voted for hillary.

    he is nuts, i mean really crazy. like robbie-level crazy

  9. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Tesla is requesting that its suppliers give it cash back, so they an finally turn a profit.

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/tesla-asks-suppliers-for-refunds-to-help-it-become-profitable-2018-07-22

    Thanks to Obama and his cronies Tesla & Musk have received about 4.8 billion in government subsidies, and yet still cannot turn a profit. Socialism at work. A vision of what Bernie Sanders America would be like.

  10. Tgca says:

    Once Bebe! Once!

  11. lisab says:

    electric cars could make a profit if gas is $4.00+ a gallon and everyone is densely packed into cities

    which is actually better for the environment

    but not better for freedom

    (basically government would have to drive up gas prices and force people to drive smaller cars for much shorter distances than they do today — then electric cars become attractive)

  12. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    12. The problem is electric cars are as clean as their energy source. If its coal, then a gasoline car would actually be less polluting.

    In Los Angeles, as example, many people do not realize that a lot of its night power is from coal plants. Those earth conscious movie stars who charge their luxury cars at night are driving what amounts to coal-mobiles.

  13. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    If you buy an electric car, be prepared to own a vehicle with about no resale value:

    “If you’re planning to buy a new electric car, you’d better be prepared for some sticker shock—not when you buy the car, but when you sell it. Electric cars are more efficient than gasoline or diesel vehicles, and they save serious money—a few hundred to a few thousand dollars a year, depending on the vehicle type—using electricity from the grid versus fuel from the gas station. They cost less to maintain and repair, too. But all that money saved—even including the $7500 federal EV tax credit that will sweeten your first year—won’t counter the worst thing to befall most EVs: horrendous depreciation. Electric vehicles lose more than $5700 per year, on average, over the first five years. That’s about $28,500 off their original price compared to an average of less than $3200 a year or $16,000 over five years across all vehicle types.”

    And if you need to replace the battery, it is going to be expensive.

    “Nissan Sets Replacement Cost Of 24 kWh LEAF Battery At $5,499. When electric cars first appeared on the scene circa 2010, lots of people asked, “How much does it cost to replace the battery?” Now Nissan has given a definitive answer to that question. If you own a 2011 to 2015 Nissan LEAF, replacing the battery will cost you exactly $5,499, plus installation, which the company estimates will take about 3 hours. Owners of 2011 and 2012 cars must also add $225 for a special adapter kit to retrofit the new battery to their cars.”

  14. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    And the final insult, when electric car users do trade in their vehicles, they often replace them with SUVs.

    “Overall, only 45% of this year’s hybrid and EV trade-ins have involved the purchase of another alternative-power vehicle, Edmunds data show. That’s down from slightly more than 60% in 2012 and is the first time the rate has fallen below 50%.
    Too, the data show that 22% of people who traded in their hybrids and EVs so far this year bought new SUVs. That’s up from 18.8% last year and close to double the 11.9% rate three years ago, Edmunds.com says.
    Edmunds calls the data “a surprising look at how today’s gas prices are drawing hybrid and EV owners toward gas-guzzling vehicles at a much more accelerated pace than in recent years.””

    Having said this, I will surprise people and say that the alternate fuel that I believe will be used in the future is hydrogen. And I say this as someone who is involved in the energy field.

  15. Paul says:

    Trump’s approval ratings should shoot up after his all caps middle-of-the-night RANT TO IRAN on twitter>

    It makes him appear more authentic. It’s exactly the thing his supporters would do in their basements when they are really mad at someone.

  16. JC says:

    @paul

    Projection much?

    Anyway, what you just saw in that Tweet was the opening salvo in the coming standoff/negotiations with Iran. Just like he did with North Korea.

  17. Redmen4ever says:

    Trump JA or Fav in Ohio state polls during past six weeks:

    Marist, PRRI, Suffolk: 42-49, 43-56, 37-59
    Gravis, TRZ, Survey Monkey: 49-43, 51-49, 53-46

    Somebody’s numbers are skewed up. Probably so are the horserace numbers,

  18. Redmen4ever says:

    A comment on the PRRI poll: The sample is drawn from a panel said to be generated from a the Delivery Sequence File of the USPS. This is a distinctive universe from that of telephone numbers (landline and cellphone), voting registration lists or internet users. (Even so, the resultant sample was weighted by the usual set of demographics.)

  19. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    1h
    So we now find out that it was indeed the unverified and Fake Dirty Dossier, that was paid for by Crooked Hillary Clinton and the DNC, that was knowingly & falsely submitted to FISA and which was responsible for starting the totally conflicted and discredited Mueller Witch Hunt!

  20. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez speaks again…

    “I saw a great movie over the weekend and it gave me an idea. We need to hold tribunals where the rich can be tried, and if found guilty of building wealth on the labor of others they can be sentenced to re-education camps, and the wealth returned to the peoples’ government.”

  21. Phil says:

    DW, please tell me that is made up. I suppose that my thinking it could possibly be a real quote says all you need to know how whacko she is.

  22. DW says:

    22 – like I said last week, my aim is to keep posting quotes from this loon, some real, some fake, blurring the lines so it is hard to tell which is which. This one happens to be fake, but based on her other comments, she would probably cheer such a plan.

  23. Wes says:

    It’s not as if Republicans had a very good shot at taking down Menendez anyway, but this means Hugin has a steeper hill to climb now:

    https://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2018/07/senate_nominee_hugin_fought_to_keep_princeton_club.html

    Of course Menendez still has his own problems–thus why I haven’t moved this race to Solid D Hold–but Hugin is now going to have to deal with allegations of chauvinism as a Republican in New Jersey. He is self-funding though, so there’s that.

  24. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez speaks again…providing good news for everyone out there struggling with Monday morning problems on the job today:

    “In the wealthiest nation in the world, working families shouln’t have to struggle.”

  25. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez has good news for American slaves who somehow weren’t freed when the 13th Amendment passed banning slavery:

    “No bans. No wall. No fences. No chains. No justice — no peace.”

  26. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez speaks again…

    “Yes, let me be clear. Lenin was a brilliant mind. So was Stalin. Their dream collapsed only because of the weak leaders who followed them and didn’t go far enough in their work for the people.”

  27. Tina says:

    l
    @RandPaul
    ·
    2h
    Today I will meet with the President and I will ask him to revoke John Brennan’s security clearance!

    Yes and Susan Rice, Clapper, sjw Yates, etc.

  28. dblaikie says:

    I found an article from 2016 in the Harvard Business review that is about today’s polling methods. The guy who wrote it is named Dan Cassino and he is a Professor at Fairleigh Dickinson Univ. In these paragraphs he reveals why polls can be so bogus in this day and age.

    “To correct for this sort of bias in the samples, pollsters make use of weighting. In the simplest form, a pollster might find that only 6% of the sample is African-American, compared to 12% of the American public. As such, a pollster might use weighting to, in effect, count African-American response twice towards the overall results. When weighting is done this way, based on known demographic factors like race, age and gender, it’s not too problematic, but it’s still as much art as science. For one, pollsters can’t be sure that the members of a group they’ve reached are representative of the group generally. For instance, most political polls survey only in English, to avoid thorny translation issues and the higher salaries of bilingual interviewers, but 73% of Latinos speak Spanish at home, so the sample of Latinos reached by most surveys isn’t representative of all Latinos, even if the overall sample is generally good.

    It’s also a bad idea for any group to be upweighted or downweighted too much, but how much is too much? Young African-American males are usually the hardest demographic to reach in political polling, and any that happen to be in the sample are likely to be upweighted because of their race, their gender, and their age. But since the weights are cumulative, that one person could respresent as much as half a percent of the overall results, potentially letting a few people throw off the entire sample.

    There’s also not complete agreement about what factors should weighted: if a poll has a low proportion of Democrats, or Republicans, should weighting be used to correct for it? Decisions like this give some pollsters the opportunity to push their results one way or the other, for partisan purposes, or to avoid being too far from what other polls are saying. As polling averages have become more prevalent, some pollsters have become nervous about putting out results that are too far from that average, leading them to weight strategically to get their data back towards the mean, or, in some cases, to choose not to release results that look weird. As a result, the polls, in the aggregate, can miss shifts in public opinion.”

    I always knew that the RCP polling averages and all the others had real problems. Why is a poll of adults in an average given the same weight as one with a likely voter screen? However I never thought that our brave polling units are afraid to publish results that don’t conform to the average. So they do their magic and push the samples! Just think of it, the polling average is itself a corruption.

    In today’s cycle, the herd mentality is a wave of blue enthusiasm. To take a poll that revels numbers against that is to be labeled an outlier by the world, and condemned by Robbie. So what do we learn from this? Polls are interesting but you shouldn’t trust them. Heck we shouldn’t even trust the polling average. What troubles me is that I always thought that polls could reveal trends but pressure to conform to the average is even effecting that.

  29. jason says:

    I ridiculed the idea that Tiger was 25/1 to win the Open Championship.

    Since he came in tied for 6th, maybe the odds were not so off after all.

    So now let me ridicule the idea he is 16/1 for the PGA.

    Great show put on by Francesco Molinari, to play that bitch of a course 37 holes without a bogey was an incredible feat.

  30. NYCmike says:

    Thanks to Francesco Molinari, I will now proclaim myself a proud Italian-Irish-American golfer, at least for the next 18 holes!

    FORE!

  31. jason says:

    “In today’s cycle, the herd mentality is a wave of blue enthusiasm.”

    It’s more than a mentality, it’s a designed strategy.

    The MSM wants to depress the R vote, and what better strategy than to portray a blue wave as a done deal, nothing you can do about it. And polling is just one facet of the strategy.

    You can see it with Amoral Scumbag’s posts, he is very interested in spreading the propaganda meme that Rs will lose 40 seats, and why he whines like a stuck pig about any polling that goes contrary to the blue wave he so desperately wants.

  32. NYCmike says:

    My prediction about November is this:

    If Robbie keeps up his parroting MSM talking points and “s*cking Trump’s b*lls” routine in response to jason and just about everyone else, then I predict Republicans will hold the House, and make gains in the Senate.

    If Robbie relaxes his TDS and responds with non-MSM reasons for the House being won by Democrats, then I predict he will be correct in his assessment.

    If Robbie disappears completely, that will be a sign that Trump and Republicans, as well as the whole economy, has crashed, and our country will react in a very negative way, and elect Democrats to run Congress.

  33. NYCmike says:

    I lean to the first option, that Robbie and the MSM can’t help themselves, and the House will hold, while Senate seats will be gained.

    My final prediction for the number of seats gained in the Senate will come later in the year, closer to the election.

  34. Tina says:

    The Jebot had a bad week with the Fisa Warrant on Carter Page a hoax.

  35. NYCmike says:

    As to the question about Oregon, where is Mr. Straw to regale us with his knowledge about that state?

  36. Tina says:

    But Camera Hogg is back in the news.

  37. DW says:

    30 – but you have to admire a course where a sand trap is actually a true hazard rather than so many courses where they are nothing.

  38. Tina says:

    46/53

    Ras

    Looks like he is up a point or two post Russian summit.

  39. BayernFan says:

    Trump will probably barnstorm the country in October and rev up GOP enthusiasm.

  40. mnw says:

    Greetings from Belize.

    Tina

    You might enjoy “Cardiac Arrest,” by Howard Root. It’s a real life DOJ horror story. You seem to be interested in similar matters. It’s about a recent white collar criminal trial, & it’s very well-written & exciting.

  41. mnw says:

    BF 40

    Your lips to God’s ear, my HHR colleague!

  42. Tina says:

    I am beginning to think that Pete the cheat’s reference to an insurance policy is:

    Fuhrer Mulehead

  43. dblaikie says:

    32 Jason, I agree.

  44. jason says:

    Thanks to Francesco Molinari, I will now proclaim myself a proud Italian-Irish-American golfer, at least for the next 18 holes!”:

    Sniff….. Inca golfers are rarer than rocking horse turds.

    But I haven’t seen any good Italian-Irish-American llama wranglers at the Llama Rodeo.

  45. Tina says:

    I am sure that the paper plane crasher will be mute for a bit, and the replacement,MThe Clinton groupie, will,appear, after a hiatus.

  46. NYCmike says:

    #46 – that is really disgusting.

    It reminds me of the Italians/Irish/churches that accepted $$ from Gotti and the mob for so many years (and probably still do).

    Shameful.

  47. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez responds…

    “I just heard about the story from Chicago involving cash being paid out to church members. I am definitely opposed to this…the very idea that people would become members of a church and waste money that could be better spent by the government.”

  48. Wes says:

    It appears Michigan will revert to its traditional Dem lean in November if Emerson is accurate:

    https://www.emerson.edu/sites/default/files/Files/Academics/ecp-pr-mi-7.23.pdf

    Realistically I’m not surprised. Republicans have been having trouble in the state for decades, and Trump’s narrow win looks like a blip after which the Wolverine State will revert to its mean since the Carter years.

    Oh, well.

  49. Big Joe says:

    Sup ‘yall … Well the political commercials are getting kinda ridiculous here in Georgia. There’s an interesting runoff tomorrow to determine the GOP candidate for Governor.

    Term-limited Gov. Deal has endorsed Casey Cagle and Prez Trump has endorsed Brian Kemp. The two have monopolized the airwaves with some pretty nasty ads.

    Cagle had been the frontrunner until the Prez endorsed Kemp. Now looks to be a toss-up with Kemp slightly ahead.

    Big Joe

  50. Wes says:

    It looks as if Phil Scott is in a good position for reelection regardless of Trump:

    http://projects.vpr.net/vpr-vermont-pbs-poll

  51. Wes says:

    Lieberman makes a good point, but then I recall he did nothing to oppose then when in the Senate–to wit, voting for Reid to be Senate Majority Leader AFTER the Dems expelled him from their caucus and supporting Obamacare in 2009 and 2010:

    https://eaglerising.com/60869/joe-lieberman-if-democratic-socialism-is-our-future-were-in-trouble/

    Like Jim Webb, Joe Lieberman has seemed to only find religion after losing his ability to act on it.

  52. Wes says:

    In the Vermont poll I posted, Sanders has significantly higher approval (66% vs. Leahy’s 53%) than Leahy. It’s not that I particularly like Leahy, but it seems a rather poor commentary on an American state when an overt Socialist is more popular than a more-or-less mainstream Democrat serving alongside him.

  53. Wes says:

    Congressman Tim Ryan (D-OH) is apparently planning to run for President and hopes to be successful by capturing the “yoga vote.”

    https://theintercept.com/2018/07/23/tim-ryan-presidential-run-2020/

    I just don’t know what to say about this one. I didn’t know yoginis and lay practitioners had any kind of bonding issue that would trigger mass support and help a candidate win. Then again, I never expected Hillary to actually lose to Trump.

  54. hugh says:

    I have read many books on the Chicago mob and never once read about gotti giving money to the church. However, I do know he used to pay for a fireworks display in his neighborhood on 4th of July.

  55. Wes says:

    Granted, as a relatively moderate Dem representing a working-class district Trump did well in, Ryan would probably be a formidable presidential candidate if not for two rather significant disadvantages:

    1) The House is arguably the worst institution to run for President from. Only Jim Garfield in 1880 ever won the White House directly from the House–in one of the closest presidential races in history.

    2) The Democrat Party as a whole has shifted radically left and seems to consider less moonbattish members such as Andrew Cuomo and Ryan to be apostates unworthy of being the party’s national standard bearer.

  56. Wes says:

    Don’t you mean the New York mob, Hugh?

  57. jason says:

    (and probably still do).”

    I told Amos Stoltzfuss that the Italian mob was giving out money at church.

    He said “the English are crazy”.

  58. jason says:

    Ryan has as much chance as a relatively moderate Republican.

  59. Tina says:

    There could be fireworks later today re Fuhrer Mulehead, manafort case.

    Fuhrer has been ordered by the Obama judge to identify the five (democrats?) granted immunity.

    If those five include the pedo brothers, watch out.

  60. hugh says:

    Yes of course sorry the Gambino’s. I should not work and do this at the same time. I read a lot on the Chicago mob as well. Great books by Tim Roemer’s (former congressman from south bend) uncle Bill Roemer who led the FBI against the mob in Chicago. If you like mob books his are great. And he was an ND grad.

  61. Harbinger of Sorrows says:

    The blue wave is coming.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DiyxfUXUwAA0IAI?format=jpg

  62. jason says:

    Over at Predictit, investors are not so sure of the blue wave.

    Next Speaker:

    McCarthy 44
    Pelosi 16

    When you add Scalise and Jordan, there is a majority for an R speaker.

    Also Collins as a Yes on Kavanaugh is at 75. Interestingly enough that is lower than Manchin, Donnelly and Heitkamp.

  63. lisab says:

    stormy daniel’s husband is filing for divorce

    it seems she may have been cheating on him

  64. Tina says:

    Stormy is the front runner for 2020 for the ds.

    I support her 1000%

    Jebot

  65. Wobbles says:

    I blame Trump for the end of Stormy’s marriage.

  66. Tina says:

    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    BREAKING: Sarah Sanders told WH press corps that Trump is reviewing and considering pulling the security clearances of Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Hayden, McCabe, and Rice.
    11:52 AM · Jul 23, 2018

    Do it asap. Well overdue.

  67. janz says:

    Trump considering pulling security clearances of a number of people. Rand Paul’s suggestion to do so may get some results!

  68. janz says:

    Tina, hat’s off – you got there first with that security clearance news!

  69. jason says:

    Maybe he could take the opportunity to ask Rand Paul to resign so KY could have an actual Republican and conservative in the seat.

  70. jason says:

    Trey Gowdy: “I have not seen one scintilla of evidence that this president colluded, conspired, collaborated, with Russia. And neither has anyone else, or you can rest assured, Adam Schiff would have leaked it.”

  71. JC says:

    Today I am reminded again of why I love Rand Paul.

  72. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1021468301510111232/video/1

    Sarah sanders on removing the security clearances from the coup plotters.

  73. jason says:

    Rand Paul is an anti-American, anti-Israel, terrorist loving moron who hates the military and the police.

    Not a conservative, not a social not a fiscal conservative, not a Republican.

    A disgrace.

    However, I think Trump knows Rand Paul’s only loyalty is to the Paulbot Party and would never trust him.

  74. jason says:

    Poor amoral scumbag

    His latest hope for overturning the election results might not pan out.

    Per Redstate”

    In a delicious turn of events, the left’s smoking soviet era AK-47 that would have connected Trump to Russia turned out to be another toy gun with a “bang” flag in the barrel after finding out that the real gun was held by the Obama administration.

    The media has attached itself to the Maria Butina story like an enthusiastic barnacle, only to find out that the alleged Russian spy that had attachments to right-wing organizations had actually met with Obama officials in 2015 according to Reuters:

    The meetings, disclosed by several people familiar with the sessions and a report prepared by a Washington think tank that arranged them, involved Stanley Fischer, then Federal Reserve vice chairman, and Nathan Sheets, then Treasury undersecretary for international affairs.

    Butina traveled to the United States in April 2015 with Alexander Torshin, then the Russian Central Bank deputy governor, and they took part in separate meetings with Fischer and Sheets to discuss U.S.-Russian economic relations during Democratic former President Barack Obama’s administration.”

  75. Tina says:

    Have to give Nunes kudos. I know the rooster helped him drat the Nunes memo, but everybody is hailing it for its accuracy.

    The jebots lied and said it was false and never wanted it released.

  76. Tina says:

    *draft

    Also, kudos to the rooster and Graham for coming around.

    I was suspicious of the warrant on Carter Page a year plus ago. Page was an FBI asset until early 2016.

    The warrant against him was illegal and a clear civil rights violation.

    Pages role in the trump campaign was very minimal, a non paid low level advisor, or volunteer.

  77. Tina says:

    aul Sperry
    @paulsperry_
    ·
    12m
    Chairman Nunes: “HPSCI supports further declassification of the [FISA] applications because there are further FBI/DOJ misdeeds hidden under the redactions.”

  78. Tina says:

    Audible gasps by us msm when sanders made the statement.

    Cnn had the penguin call in. There heads are imploding.

  79. Big Joe says:

    Actually, here is a newer poll from 11Alive (polled 7/15-7/19)

    Kemp 40
    Cagle 34

    https://www.11alive.com/article/news/local/11alive-poll-kemp-cagle-in-close-race-with-many-gop-voters-still-undecided/85-575849113

    Big Joe

  80. messy says:

    74. This is known as an auto-coup. The person in power consolidates it by breaking his oath of office and grabbing illegal power. It happens all the time, except here. At least until now.

  81. DW says:

    Nobody grabbed more illegal power than Obama with his executive orders.

  82. DW says:

    29 – I am not going to say polling is right or its wrong. On the one hand, a stopped clock can be right twice a day. In other words, a poll’s internal workings could be garbage, and yet through random chance it could be right. On the other hand, a poll could have solid internal workings and yet turn out horribly wrong.

    It should be a wakeup call to pollsters what happened to Siena this year. Historically a left-lean to them, but reasonably consistent pollster of New York State races.

    But in the NY primaries, they didn’t just get two races wrong, they released polls showing BLOW-OUTs in one direction that ended up to be BLOW-OUTs in the other direction. These two polls could not possibly have been much worse.

    Polling is not easy. Anyone who says it is either is lucky at it, or not telling the truth.

  83. Big Joe says:

    Right DW, polling is not easy and is not getting any easier. Pollsters these days can only dream of being like Paladin/CFP…

    Any new Paladin/CFP polling lately?

    Big Joe

  84. DW says:

    And we have seen the dangers of poll herding in action. A pollster takes a sample and then sees in the results data substantially different from what competitor pollsters published. So they scratch their heads and change the underlying assumptions until they get results similar to the others so they don’t run the risk of being out on the end of a limb and watching it sawed off on election night.

    In 2016 the Trafalgar Group was way out on the end of a limb, and when the branch was sawed off on election night, the whole tree collapsed and only the branch was still in place.

  85. NYCmike says:

    YES, it would be terrible to have more Senators like Rand Paul!

  86. NYCmike says:

    “74. This is known as an auto-coup.”

    -What is the proper method for removing the security clearances of those who have left government service?

    Is the President trying to remove the clearances in an illegal manner?

    Please explain.

  87. NYCmike says:

    “Rand Paul is an anti-American, anti-Israel, terrorist loving moron who hates the military and the police.

    Not a conservative, not a social not a fiscal conservative, not a Republican.”

    -LOL.

  88. Tina says:

    So, the jebots have responded to the security clearance matter by stating that trump is “taking away their abilities to speak.”

    No,me is taking away your abilities to leak.

  89. lisab says:

    James Brennan, Donna Duggan, Conor O’Brien, Cindy Laporta and Dennis Raico.

    given immunity

  90. lisab says:

    Stormy Daniels An Adulterer, Husband Charges
    Porn star’s alleged infidelity is cited as grounds for divorce

  91. DW says:

    93 – it speaks for itself. Nothing else need be said about it.

  92. DW says:

    Sounds like the wobbly GOP senators are all on board now with Kavanaugh. Please Manchin, please vote NO.

  93. JC says:

    “Rand Paul is an anti-American, anti-Israel, terrorist loving moron who hates the military and the police.

    Not a conservative, not a social not a fiscal conservative, not a Republican.”

    -LOL.
    ———————

    I concur.

    LOL

  94. lisab says:

    New York Daily News lays off 50% of its newsroom.

  95. lisab says:

    Stormy Daniels An Adulterer, Husband Charges
    Porn star’s alleged infidelity is cited as grounds for divorce

    93 – it speaks for itself. Nothing else need be said about it. DW
    ——————————————

    it just shakes my faith in porn stars … imagine … infidelity

    i wonder how he got evidence?

    hired detectives?

  96. dblaikie says:

    DW Thank you for your informative post. Even though I say that all polls are bogus, I realize that I am engaging in over the top hyperbole. Yes some actually can be accurate. But having said that, what I really believe is that because so many polls are victims of herding, conforming to the norm, and just plain bias in the pollster I won’t and can’t trust any poll. And I realize that to be fair about it, I shouldn’t trust Rasmussen anymore than NBC/Wall Street Journal. Heck it was the left wing Los Angeles Times that came up with a new polling method that truly showed that Trump was doing much better than the dominant view in 2016.

    But the disturbing trend that the Harvard Business article revealed was corruption due to the polling average, because it pressures you to return to the norm. To be truthful I have never liked averaging anyway because there is no difference in the average between a poll of adults and likely voters. Yet I did until today hope that averaging could be helpful in revealing a trend. I no longer believe that to be the case.

    So I have to decided to have a new rule. A pollster who publishes an outlier poll that is against the grain reveals a courageous polling unit. From now on I will take seriously a poll that stands alone.

  97. Bitterlaw says:

    C

  98. Bitterlaw says:

    What is wrong with you people? Who cares about politics? It’s Shark Week!

  99. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    When most the population had land-line telephones, polling had the possibility of being relatively straightforward. Now people have all sorts of different means of communications, and a large chuck of the population uses communications devices that protect their privacy. Plus communications technology is changing all the time.

    The focus is now on trying to find a way to accurately poll the population, and involves all sorts of computer models, which have varying degrees of accuracy. Quite often an accurate pollster is one who has guessed right more than once. However, their polling method may now be out-of-date because of changes in technology.

    2016 was a polling fiasco; it may be a sign that polling has fallen to the level of being which computer model makes the best guess. Watching variations in existing polls might be a better way of determining how the public feels.

  100. Bitterlaw says:

    I only trust Paladin polls.

  101. Tina says:

    I only trust nbc or cnn polls.

    Jebot

  102. jason says:

    YES, it would be terrible to have more Senators like Rand Paul!”

    I concur.

    Anyone who thinks a nuclear Iran is not at threat is more than an idiot, such stupidity is actually dangerous.

    Anyone who thinks its a good idea to cut off military aid to our only ally in the Middle East is more than an idiot, such stupidity is actually dangerous.

    Anyone who concurs with Ron Paul’s disgusting “blowback theory”, which blames 9/11 on the the US, is more than an idiot, such stupidity is actually dangerous.

    I could go on, but anyone with half a brain will understand the 3 examples above are enough to show Rand Paul should not be in the Senate.

  103. Wobbles says:

    I am very upset that the Daily News might be going belly up.

    I LOVE their anti-Trump headlines, LOVE them.

    I am writing Governor Cuomo and suggesting New York State buy the newspaper and continue publishing as the New York Daily Pravda.

  104. lisab says:

    obama says he is the first american president from kenya 🙂

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=15&v=L36sGc4Id2I

    at 5:45 in the video

    you could not make this up

  105. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    For those who were not aware, since the lying leftist press would never mention it, at the time Trump was in Helsinki meeting Trump, U.S. naval forces were part of a massive naval exercise in the Ukraine. India and the UAE were part of the festivities, and the President of the Ukraine visited a U.S. navy ship.

    “Ukraine hosting the US Navy, twelve other NATO navies, and seven non-NATO navies in Operation Sea Breeze July 9 through July 17, 2018. : “SeaBreeze maritime interdiction operations, air defense, antisubmarine warfare, damage control tactics, search and rescue and amphibious warfare.”
    “All nineteen participating nations were revealed in @USNavyEurope’s tweetstorm July 14. Putin was late to Helsinki sifting through the intel as to why India and UAE navies were included, and why Ukraine’s President Poroshenko was meeting EUCOM and NATO Supreme Commander Scaparotti on the USS Mt. Whitney, the command and control flagship of @USNavyEurope.”

    http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=106446

    Will say it again, it was Obama & Clinton who sold the Ukraine out. Trump is reaffirming our commitment. The leftist lying needs to stop.

  106. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Correction “Trump was in Helsinki meeting with Putin”

  107. Phil says:

    Rand Paul, just like his dad, is and always has been a complete joke on foreign policy.

  108. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    After the Toronto shootings, by a shooter named Faisal Hussain whose family says he had “mental problems”, the mayor of Toronto has a solution to stop further shootings in his city. Take away all guns from civilians (aka “potential victims”)

    “Mayor John Tory was cited in the National Post as not only calling the shooting that killed two people and wounded 13 others an “unspeakable” act, but adding that the city needs even tighter restrictions on guns.
    “Why does anyone in this city need to have a gun at all?” he said, going on to claim that total disarmament would be worth it if it prevented a single mass shooting.
    “I know answering questions like this won’t fully eliminate tragedies like this, but even if we can prevent one of these incidents, then in my view it is a discussion worth having and having very soon,” he said.”

    Maybe he should start with a law taking guns away from criminals. Am sure they would obey it (he may be stupid enough to believe it).

  109. JC says:

    jason says:
    July 23, 2018 at 3:13 pm
    Maybe he could take the opportunity to ask Rand Paul to resign so KY could have an actual Republican and conservative in the seat.
    ————————

    The people of Kentucky elected Rand Paul.

    You are not from Kentucky. Therefor, you have no right to criticize him.

    Or is that rule only aloud to be applied by McCain’s boot kickers?

  110. JC says:

    Even the squishes at RRH are now saying McCain needs to resign;

    MOSHEM
    July 22, 2018 at 12:43 am
    McCain needs to be forced to resign. And I’m saying this as a fan.
    Maybe we need a constitutional amendment that states that senators that are incapacitated have a certain way of being replaced by a member of their own party.

    We need more principled senators like Rand Paul and less vindictive dinosaurs like McCain.

  111. jason says:

    Rand Paul principled?

    Rand Paul has the principles of a rattlesnake.

  112. Tina says:

    Well, Rand Paul is right about taking away the security clearances from the coup plotters.

    For example, the Penguin (Clapper) said no warrant existed against any trump associate.

  113. DW says:

    New polls

    IL_06

    Peter Roskam (R-Inc) 49
    Sean Casten (D) 42

    IL_12

    Mike Bost (R-Inc) 52
    Brendan Kelly (D) 43

    IL_13

    Rodney Davis (R-Inc) 53
    Betsy Londrigan (D) 41

    IL_14

    Randy Hultgren (R-Inc) 48
    Lauren Underwood (D) 41

    2018 Paladin Polling
    7/21-7/22

  114. Tina says:

    Parkland school shooting activist David Hogg posted a threat to President Donald Trump on Twitter Monday, warning he will, “SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE.”

    More Hogg!

  115. DW says:

    More herding…they all want to agree with Cook, who is on course to have 200+ Republican seats at Tossup:

    Safe R > Likely R: IA-04, IN-02, IN-09, PA-16, TX-31
    Likely R > Lean R: AR-02, FL-16, NM-02
    Lean R > Toss Up: IA-03, IL-06, KY-06, MI-08, OH-01, OH-12, TX-07, WV-03
    Likely D > Safe D: FL-13
    http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/the-house-tilts-toward-the-democrats/

  116. Bitterlaw says:

    Rand Paul has principles? Only at HHR would an alleged conservative define blaming the US for the 2001 terrorist attacks, being anti-Israel, and being anti-military as principled. I love this place.

  117. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    This killed Kay Hagan(D) in the 2014 NC Senate race:

    https://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/article215234680.html

    Sky Queen Claire McCaskill(D-MO) is a ” political dead woman,walking”.

  118. DW says:

    Updated Dashboard:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | RRH | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    IN_09 R | 150 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    WA_03 R | 151 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.3 —
    CA_22 R | 152 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.3 — 49/41 (PPP)
    NC_08 R | 153 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    OH_07 R | 154 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    OH_10 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    OH_15 R | 156 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    PA_14* D | 157 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    TX_31 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R/ | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5 —
    NY_23 R | 159 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Ln R | 5 —
    CO_03 R | 160 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    SC_01 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    MO_02 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    CA_50 R | 163 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5 —
    AZ_06 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5 —
    AZ_08 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5 —
    FL_15* R | 166 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5 —
    PA_16 R | 167 | Ln R | Sf R |
    Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.6 — 48/43 (PPP)
    IN_02 R | 168 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 4.6 —
    FL_06* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.6 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.6 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.6 —
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 4.6 —
    OH_14 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 4.6 —
    WI_06 R | 174 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.3 —
    FL_25 R | 175 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.3 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.3 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.3 —
    TX_21* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.3 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_18 R | 180 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    NY_24 R | 181 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.6 — 49/37 (PPP)
    IL_13 R | 183 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 45/42 (PPP)
    IL_14 R | 184 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 45/41 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 186 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.6 —
    VA_05 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 3.6 —
    NY_01 R | 188 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.3 —
    AR_02 R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3 — 47/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 190 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | 3 — 48/44 (D-Int.) | 42/42 (GSG-D)
    WA_05 R | 191 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 —
    NY_11 R | 193 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 —
    NC_13 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.6 — 43/40 (PPP) | 40/35 (Civitas)
    OH_01 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.3 — 43/42 (PPP)
    VA_02 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.3 — 48/42 (PPP)
    WV_03* R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | 2 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    MT_01 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | 2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NM_02* R | 199 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    IA_03 R | 200 | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 — 44/43 (PPP) | 41/45 (D-Int.)
    ME_02 R | 201 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 — 45/35
    TX_32 R | 202 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 — 47/43 | 45/39 (Salt Lake Trib.)
    KS_03 R | 204 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 —
    MI_08 R | 205 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | 1.3 — 46/41 (PPP)
    KY_06 R | 206 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.3 —
    VA_07 R | 207 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.3 —
    KS_02* R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.3 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    WI_01* R | 209 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.3 —
    OH_12* R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.1 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics) | 48/43 (D-Int.)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 —
    CA_45 R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 1 — 43/46 (PPP)
    IL_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 45/44 (Garin-Hart-Yang-D)
    TX_07 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    NC_09* R | 215 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 42/37 (PPP) | 36/43 (Civitas) | 43/44 (D-Int)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 41/42 (PPP) | 45/47 (GQR-D)
    PA_01 R | 217 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 49/42
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    IL_12 R | 218 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.6 — 44/39 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    NY_19 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.5 — 41/43 (PPP)
    TX_23 R | 215 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 44/43 (PPP)
    IA_01 R | 214 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.3 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    WA_08* R | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.3 — 51/45
    CA_10 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 49/42 (Srat. 360-D) | 45/40 (GSG-D)
    CA_48 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/44 (D-Internal) | 45/47 (Monmouth)
    CO_06 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 —
    NY_22 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/40 (DCCC-D)
    PA_17 R | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.3 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 200 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.8 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    PA_07* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.8 —
    VA_10 R | 198 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.3 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.5 —
    CA_49* R | 196 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 — 41/44 (Feldman) | 46/43 (R-Int)
    NV_03* D | 195 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.3 —
    AZ_01 D | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.5 —
    NV_04* D | 191 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.6 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3 —
    MN_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3.3 —
    PA_08 D | 188 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.3 —
    NJ_05 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    PA_06* R | 186 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 185 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -4 —
    NJ_02* R | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4 — 39/44 (PPP)
    PA_05* R | 183 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.6 —
    AZ_09* D | 182 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.6 —
    NH_02 D | 181 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.6 —
    CT_05* D | 180 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | -4.6 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    NY_18 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    FL_13 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.3 —
    IA_02 D | 175 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.3 —
    NY_25 D | 174 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.3 —

    *indicates open seat

  119. DW says:

    whoops…missed a bold tag here…trying again:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ———————————————————————–
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | RRH | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ———————————————————————–
    IN_09 R | 150 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    WA_03 R | 151 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.3 —
    CA_22 R | 152 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.3 — 49/41 (PPP)
    NC_08 R | 153 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    OH_07 R | 154 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    OH_10 R | 155 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    OH_15 R | 156 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    PA_14* D | 157 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.3 —
    TX_31 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5 —
    NY_23 R | 159 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Ln R | 5 —
    CO_03 R | 160 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    SC_01 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    MO_02 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    CA_50 R | 163 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5 —
    AZ_06 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5 —
    AZ_08 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5 —
    FL_15* R | 166 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5 —
    PA_16 R | 167 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.6 — 48/43 (PPP)
    IN_02 R | 168 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 4.6 —
    FL_06* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.6 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.6 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.6 —
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 4.6 —
    OH_14 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 4.6 —
    WI_06 R | 174 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.3 —
    FL_25 R | 175 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.3 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.3 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.3 —
    TX_21* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.3 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_18 R | 180 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    NY_24 R | 181 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 3.6 — 49/37 (PPP)
    IL_13 R | 183 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 45/42 (PPP)
    IL_14 R | 184 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.6 — 45/41 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.6 —
    CA_21 R | 186 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.6 —
    VA_05 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 3.6 —
    NY_01 R | 188 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.3 —
    AR_02 R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | 3 — 47/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 190 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | 3 — 48/44 (D-Int.) | 42/42 (GSG-D)
    WA_05 R | 191 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3 — 48/45 (PPP)
    GA_06* R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 —
    NY_11 R | 193 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 —
    NC_13 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.6 — 43/40 (PPP) | 40/35 (Civitas)
    OH_01 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.3 — 43/42 (PPP)
    VA_02 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.3 — 48/42 (PPP)
    WV_03* R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | 2 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    MT_01 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | 2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NM_02* R | 199 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    IA_03 R | 200 | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 — 44/43 (PPP) | 41/45 (D-Int.)
    ME_02 R | 201 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 — 45/35
    TX_32 R | 202 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 —
    UT_04 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 — 47/43 | 45/39 (Salt Lake Trib.)
    KS_03 R | 204 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.6 —
    MI_08 R | 205 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | 1.3 — 46/41 (PPP)
    KY_06 R | 206 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.3 —
    VA_07 R | 207 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.3 —
    KS_02* R | 208 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.3 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    WI_01* R | 209 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.3 —
    OH_12* R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.1 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics) | 48/43 (D-Int.)
    NE_02 R | 211 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 —
    CA_45 R | 212 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 1 — 43/46 (PPP)
    IL_06 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 45/44 (Garin-Hart-Yang-D)
    TX_07 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    NC_09* R | 215 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 42/37 (PPP) | 36/43 (Civitas) | 43/44 (D-Int)
    NJ_07 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 41/42 (PPP) | 45/47 (GQR-D)
    PA_01 R | 217 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 49/42
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    IL_12 R | 218 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.6 — 44/39 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.6 — 43/46 (PPP)
    NY_19 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.5 — 41/43 (PPP)
    TX_23 R | 215 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 44/43 (PPP)
    IA_01 R | 214 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.3 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    WA_08* R | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.3 — 51/45
    CA_10 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 49/42 (Srat. 360-D) | 45/40 (GSG-D)
    CA_48 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/44 (D-Internal) | 45/47 (Monmouth)
    CO_06 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 —
    NY_22 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/40 (DCCC-D)
    PA_17 R | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.3 — 42/45 (PPP)
    NJ_11* R | 200 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.8 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    PA_07* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | -0.8 —
    VA_10 R | 198 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.3 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    NH_01* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.5 —
    CA_49* R | 196 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.6 — 41/44 (Feldman) | 46/43 (R-Int)
    NV_03* D | 195 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    AZ_02* R | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.3 —
    AZ_01 D | 192 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.5 —
    NV_04* D | 191 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.6 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3 —
    MN_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3.3 —
    PA_08 D | 188 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.3 —
    NJ_05 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    PA_06* R | 186 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | -3.6 —
    CA_07 D | 185 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -4 —
    NJ_02* R | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4 — 39/44 (PPP)
    PA_05* R | 183 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.6 —
    AZ_09* D | 182 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.6 —
    NH_02 D | 181 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.6 —
    CT_05* D | 180 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | -4.6 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    NY_18 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5 —
    FL_13 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.3 —
    IA_02 D | 175 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -5.3 —
    NY_25 D | 174 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.3 —

    *indicates open seat

  120. DW says:

    On the whole, the three toupees predictions are to the LEFT of the Daily Kos predictions.

  121. DW says:

    In fact, in the races that matter most, Daily Kos is to the right of the RCP and RRH forecast. I might just go ahead and Add Daily Kos to my dashboard.

  122. Robbie says:

    I see President Moron was up and early spouting his economic illiteracy. I can’t wait to watch the “real conservatives”, who never believed in this crap until Trump came along, twist themselves into pretzels defending this nonsense.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    Tariffs are the greatest! Either a country which has treated the United States unfairly on Trade negotiates a fair deal, or it gets hit with Tariffs. It’s as simple as that – and everybody’s talking! Remember, we are the “piggy bank” that’s being robbed. All will be Great!

  123. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 24, 2018 at 8:20 am
    Rand Paul has principles? Only at HHR would an alleged conservative define blaming the US for the 2001 terrorist attacks, being anti-Israel, and being anti-military as principled. I love this place.

    – Rand Paul is a clown. I voted for him enthusiastically in 2010 and then again in 2016 simply because he was on the ballot. In 2022, I will support any credible primary challenger to him. If he’s nominated, I will simply not vote for him.

    Over the last few years, he’s become his clownish father, except with better hair.

  124. Chicon says:

    Does an “enthusiastic” vote count for more than other votes?

  125. Robbie says:

    It’s depressing to read the updated Crystal Ball outlook from Larry Sabato’s group, but this is what happens in a wave year. Races that never should have been on the board become competitive. We saw this in 2010 and 2014 and we heard many similar talking points from Democrats about how things weren’t as bad as the data suggested. In the end, things were actually worse than they appeared at this time in 2010 and 2014. Barring some unforeseen event that rallies the country to Trump, I’d expect more races to move into the tossup column.

    The goal now should be to minimize the defeat as much as possible in hopes the losses can be overcome in 2020. I would start by, essentially, writing off the House and focusing every dollar on the Senate. If Republicans can hold the Senate (less likely with each day), they can continue to confirm judges. And if they build enough of a cushion this year in the Senate, that would allow them a buffer if things go wildly wrong again in 2020. A Republican Senate in 2021 might be the only thing that separates the country from court packing, Medicare for all, and a few other liberal wish list items.

    Just as the wipeout in 2006 set the stage for the passage of big Democrat policy items in 2009 and 2010, 2018 may be setting the stage for something similar for Democrat in 2021.

  126. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    July 24, 2018 at 9:35 am
    Does an “enthusiastic” vote count for more than other votes?

    – I donated to Paul in 2010 and spent a weekend placing yard signs in early October 2010 for him. I certainly won’t be doing those things again.

    Will my view of him matter to others? Nope. That said, I’ll point out this factoid. Paul underperformed Trump’s vote in Kentucky by 5 percentage points even though he faced an underfunded challenger. His position in the state has never been as strong as you might expect.

  127. jason says:

    Since Amoral Scumbag is usually wrong, things are looking good for the GOP in the House.

    I remember he also gave up on the Senate in 2016.

    The thing to remember here is that what you wish for may not always come true.

  128. dblaikie says:

    Robbie, all I can say is that thank God no one listens to your advice as drone on about how bad the GOP loses are going to be. And who on this site believes “It’s depressing to read.”

    I am long, indeed almost lifelong fan, of The Lord of the Rings, and because of that I have a new nickname for you — King Theoden’s evil adviser Wormtongue. Yes you are cast in that characters persona in an uncanny way. And all can say to you is Gandalf’s words to him, “Down snake!”

  129. jason says:

    Rand Paul has principles? Only at HHR would an alleged conservative define blaming the US for the 2001 terrorist attacks, being anti-Israel, and being anti-military as principled. I love this place.”

    Hilarious.

    JC attacks McCain and others for being RINOs, but defends the biggest RINO in the Senate, Rand Paul.

    HHR is great.

    Btw, Rand Paul is still “undecided” about Kavanaugh.

    Translation: still trying to determine how much free air time that will get him.

  130. DW says:

    Sabato and Cook are to the left of the Daily Kos. As suspect as polling has been, Sabato and Cook are just ignoring polling and going all in on the blue wave. Here is Kos added to the dashboard:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ——————————————————————————-
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | RRH | Kos | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ——————————————————————————-
    NC_08 R | 150 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    OH_15 R | 151 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    PA_14* D | 152 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    IN_09 R | 153 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    WA_03 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    CA_22 R | 155 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 — 49/41 (PPP)
    OH_07 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    OH_10 R | 157 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    NY_23 R | 158 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Ln R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    AZ_06 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    AZ_08 R | 160 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    TX_31 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    CO_03 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    SC_01 R | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    MO_02 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 166 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    PA_16 R | 167 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 — 48/43 (PPP)
    IN_02 R | 168 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    FL_06* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    OH_14 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    WI_06 R | 174 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    FL_25 R | 175 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    TX_21* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_18 R | 180 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    NY_24 R | 181 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | 3.7 — 49/37 (PPP)
    IL_14 R | 183 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 — 45/41 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 184 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    CA_21 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    VA_05 R | 186 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    IL_13 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NY_01 R | 188 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.4 —
    GA_06* R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.1 —
    AR_02 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | 2.8 — 47/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 191 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 — 48/44 (D-Int.) | 42/42 (GSG-D)
    WA_05 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 193 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    NC_13 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.5 — 43/40 (PPP) | 40/35 (Civitas)
    OH_01 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.2 — 43/42 (PPP)
    VA_02 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.2 — 48/42 (PPP)
    WV_03* R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Lk R | 2.2 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    MT_01 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 2.2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NM_02* R | 199 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    ME_02 R | 200 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 — 45/35
    TX_32 R | 201 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 —
    UT_04 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 — 47/43 | 45/39 (Salt Lake Trib.)
    KS_03 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 —
    IA_03 R | 204 | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.4 — 44/43 (PPP) | 41/45 (D-Int.)
    MI_08 R | 205 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/41 (PPP)
    VA_07 R | 206 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 —
    WI_01* R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 —
    OH_12* R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.2 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics) | 48/43 (D-Int.)
    NE_02 R | 209 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.2 —
    KY_06 R | 210 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 —
    KS_02* R | 211 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    IL_06 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 45/44 (Garin-Hart-Yang-D)
    TX_07 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 214 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 49/42
    CA_45 R | 215 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.8 — 43/46 (PPP)
    IL_12 R | 216 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 0.8 — 44/39 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 0.8 — 43/46 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    NJ_07 R | 218 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.7 — 41/42 (PPP) | 45/47 (GQR-D)
    NC_09* R | 217 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.7 — 42/37 (PPP) | 36/43 (Civitas) | 43/44 (D-Int)
    NY_19 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.4 — 41/43 (PPP)
    TX_23 R | 215 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 44/43 (PPP)
    IA_01 R | 214 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    WA_08* R | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.2 — 51/45
    CA_10 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 49/42 (Srat. 360-D) | 45/40 (GSG-D)
    CA_48 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/44 (D-Internal) | 45/47 (Monmouth)
    CO_06 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 —
    NY_22 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/40 (DCCC-D)
    PA_17 R | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_01* D | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.2 — 42/45 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 200 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.7 —
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -1 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    VA_10 R | 198 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.4 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    CA_49* R | 197 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 — 41/44 (Feldman) | 46/43 (R-Int)
    NH_01* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | -1.5 —
    AZ_02* R | 195 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.5 —
    NV_03* D | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -2.5 —
    NV_04* D | 192 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.5 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.7 —
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.1 —
    MN_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.4 —
    PA_08 D | 188 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.4 —
    NJ_05 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    PA_06* R | 186 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    CA_07 D | 185 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.2 —
    NJ_02* R | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    CT_05* D | 183 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | Ln D | -4.2 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    AZ_09* D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 —
    NY_18 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 —
    FL_13 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.4 —
    IA_02 D | 175 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —
    NY_25 D | 174 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —

    *indicates open seat

  131. jason says:

    I can’t wait to watch the “real conservatives”, who never believed in this crap until Trump came along, twist themselves into pretzels defending this nonsense.”‘

    Yes, it should be fun.

    I am sure NYC will be here soon explaining that “in principle” he is against tariffs, but in practice if Trump imposes them they are the greatest idea since sliced bread.

  132. Phil says:

    It’s July. I’m supposed to worry about an election in November?

  133. Phil says:

    It’s bad enough watching these tariff gradually be put into place without listening to Trump brag about it.

  134. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #132- db
    Yes, Wormtongue is a predictable bore.

    #121
    Read the article. If this were a Republican, the “toupees” would move this race at least one notch in a nanosecond!

  135. Wes says:

    So Stormy Daniels’ husband is endorsing her for infidelity.

    A PORN STAR’s husband is divorcing her for infidelity.

    Oh, the irony!

  136. Wes says:

    This year has been erratic. In January, Dems looked poised to win the House. Later, Republicans looked likely to lose it. Now the pendulum seems to be swinging back toward the Dems. Realistically it’s damn near impossible to gauge the actual likely results given all the wild swings of the past few months.

  137. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    July 24, 2018 at 9:54 am
    Robbie, all I can say is that thank God no one listens to your advice as drone on about how bad the GOP loses are going to be. And who on this site believes “It’s depressing to read.”
    I am long, indeed almost lifelong fan, of The Lord of the Rings, and because of that I have a new nickname for you — King Theoden’s evil adviser Wormtongue. Yes you are cast in that characters persona in an uncanny way. And all can say to you is Gandalf’s words to him, “Down snake!”

    – Yawn.

    Unlike many of the people who post here now, I’m an actual registered Republican who still supports the party and the conservative views it has long espoused (I didn’t leave the party over Trump like Jason fraud did). So, yes, I do find it depressing to read that the hard won majorities of 2010 and 2014 are about to be flushed down the toilet because of Trump’s behavior and unpopularity in his first two years as president. And make no mistake, these losses will be all about Trump. If any other Republican were president, the House and the Senate would not be in danger of flipping with the strong economy we have.

    But by all means, please tell me again how appointing conservative judges is somehow a redemptive act? Especially since redemption can only be given after people admit their mistakes and ask for forgiveness. Trump, by his own admission, has said he’s never asked for forgiveness.

  138. Wes says:

    On RRH, Dems can cheerlead for their party at will. When a Republican does it, the mods respond thusly:

    RRR July 24, 2018 at 9:31 am | In reply to cer

    Interesting that you should get snippy here. You have been asked ad nauseam to back up these sorts of blanket claims in the first place. This is another reminder, and it applies to your OH-12 comment as well.
    New PA-3/IL-9/NY-7
    More Catharine and Charlie Bakers. YIMBY. Sasse ’20

  139. Wes says:

    Of course Robbie would be more believable had he not been cheering for literally every Republican running in 2016 to lose once JEB! failed to win the nomination.

  140. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:01 am
    It’s July. I’m supposed to worry about an election in November?

    – Yes. It’s time to worry. The waves in 2006, 2008, 2010, and 2014 were showing up in the polling at this point.

    On the flip side though, realizing that things are bad now means there are still more than three months to turn things around. An effective triage plan can make a big difference. Waiting until October to say “oh crap” usually doesn’t work well.

  141. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:07 am
    #132- db
    Yes, Wormtongue is a predictable bore.

    – No more predictable and no more boring than watching “always Trumpers” like you.

  142. Wes says:

    Sadly I expect my third favorite Congresswoman, Barbara Comstock, to be triaged soon because Corey Stewart is determined to take the VAGOP down with him just as Ken Cuccinelli did in 2013.

  143. DW says:

    Wes, I am still of the thinking that Dem voter interest and intensity will spike the most in locations that are already overwhelmingly Democrat.

    And the swings haven’t really been that wild. There is a dip in the Drat support on the generic ballot, but some of this could just be the timing of the poll releases and so forth:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html

  144. Wes says:

    That can still affect the overall outcome, DW. Look at your own state last year:

    Ed Gillespie was a solid candidate, but Dems had such antipathy toward Trump they flocked to the polls to take out him, the two other Republicans running statewide, and a large chunk of the GOP conference in the State House.

    Fortunately most states aren’t like Virginia and won’t have a disastrous Senate candidate dragging down the House candidates, but if Corey Stewart causes an apocalypse beyond Barbara Comstock’s district in the Old Dominion, I would say that may be indicative of Dems’ winning enough seats to capture the House.

  145. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:12 am
    This year has been erratic. In January, Dems looked poised to win the House. Later, Republicans looked likely to lose it. Now the pendulum seems to be swinging back toward the Dems. Realistically it’s damn near impossible to gauge the actual likely results given all the wild swings of the past few months.

    – You won’t be surprised to read my view, but I don’t think there’s been a moment this year when Democrats haven’t looked to be in a good position to win back the House. The question for me has been whether it will be a 25 seat gain or a 40 or more seat gain.

    I say that because the moments where the generic polling has “improved” appeared to be little more than blips (statistical noise) and had as much to do with the Democrat number coming down rather than the Republican number rising. The Republican number has generally bounced around the 40% mark. Also, Trump’s average approval rating has remained in the low 40’s.

    Clearly, a late swing back to the Republicans and Trump could be enough to cause a photo finish where Republicans might hold on by a three or four seat margin, but I’m hard pressed to know what kind of event would cause that. That’s even more true when you consider Trump’s penchant for self inflicted wounds.

    I’ll go back to what I wrote last year. If Trump can get his RCP approval rating above 45%, Republican chances will be better. But save a few days right after he was inaugurated, Trump’s not been there.

  146. Wes says:

    Meanwhile, it appears Hawley caught a big break in MO-Sen:

    https://www.kansascity.com/latest-news/article215234680.html

  147. DW says:

    151 – I saw that earlier this morning…going from 16k profit to millions since his wife got the senate job? Coincidence?

  148. Wes says:

    I’m never surprised post-JEB! when you decalre Republicans to be losing, Robbie:

    Richard Burr, Roy Blunt, Todd Young, and Marco Rubio were supposed to be giving concession speeches two years ago because Hillary was going to sweep all of them out of office. Blunt was the only one who had a close election–and he still won.

  149. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #151
    Agreed, but see above #121.

  150. Wes says:

    declare*

  151. Wes says:

    Tell me this is just some elaborate Kafkaesque nightmare going on in VA, DW, rather than reality:

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/07/virginias-corey-stewart-gets-laughs-with-trump-russia-line.html

  152. Phil says:

    I’d say Democrats pick up somewhere around 30 seats in the House if I had to guess. Enough to shut down any investigations of the FISA hoax and enough to impeach Trump if the choose to. I don’t think they will go down that road, however. It would be popular with their base but a political loser with the rest of the electorate including independents. They know it would backfire on them in 2020.

  153. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:17 am
    Of course Robbie would be more believable had he not been cheering for literally every Republican running in 2016 to lose once JEB! failed to win the nomination.

    – This is really a ridiculous thing to say. I never cheered for “literally every Republican running in 2016 to lose”. In fact, I hoped and hoped and hoped for a credible third party run, I hoped and hoped and hoped for there to be a way to stop Trump at the convention, and then I hoped and hoped and hoped for Trump to quit the race after the Khan controversy and the Access Hollywood tape.

    In fact, I remember you were none to pleased with Trump after the Access Hollywood tape. You encouraged the RNC to dump Trump and said it was the end of the road for him. You even shared my view that Trump’s unpopularity would tank the whole party.

    Wes says:
    October 7, 2016 at 11:11 pm
    You need to quit defending Trump, Janz. I’ve stayed on the sidelines while others have attacked you, but you need to get your head out of your ass. He’s doomed and will take the GOP down with him.
    Republicans need to drop him…
    NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  154. Wes says:

    You found one post raising an alarm from me, Robbie. Congratulations. I wasn’t slobbering all over every poll showing Evan Bayh with a large lead over Todd Young though, nor finding a reason to say literally every Republican running for Congress was going to lose in some 1932-style wave though.

  155. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:26 am
    That can still affect the overall outcome, DW. Look at your own state last year:
    Ed Gillespie was a solid candidate, but Dems had such antipathy toward Trump they flocked to the polls to take out him, the two other Republicans running statewide, and a large chunk of the GOP conference in the State House.
    Fortunately most states aren’t like Virginia and won’t have a disastrous Senate candidate dragging down the House candidates, but if Corey Stewart causes an apocalypse beyond Barbara Comstock’s district in the Old Dominion, I would say that may be indicative of Dems’ winning enough seats to capture the House.

    – What happened in Virginia last year should be a warning. The polls showed a close race and many even thought Gillispie would win. On election day though, Democrats wildly outperformed polling and it was a blowout. Intensity matters and Democrats have it this year just as Republicans did in 2010 and 2014 when they outperformed polling.

  156. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:31 am
    I’m never surprised post-JEB! when you decalre Republicans to be losing, Robbie:
    Richard Burr, Roy Blunt, Todd Young, and Marco Rubio were supposed to be giving concession speeches two years ago because Hillary was going to sweep all of them out of office. Blunt was the only one who had a close election–and he still won.

    – If you want to rely on my 2016 predictions as the reason I’m wrong, that’s fine. I thought Trump would drag down the entire party. What I underestimated was the antipathy voters felt for Clinton. There’s no Clinton on the ballot this year, though.

  157. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:47 am
    I’d say Democrats pick up somewhere around 30 seats in the House if I had to guess. Enough to shut down any investigations of the FISA hoax and enough to impeach Trump if the choose to. I don’t think they will go down that road, however. It would be popular with their base but a political loser with the rest of the electorate including independents. They know it would backfire on them in 2020.

    – I no longer believe Democrats will impeach Trump. Why? If they do, Republicans would be far less likely to renominate him. The Democrats desperately want to run against Trump in 2020. They probably have the same sense I do that “Trump fatigue” will be a real issue by Summer 2020.

  158. Wes says:

    It’s amazing how you only underestimate voters’ antipathy for a corrupt elitist, Robbie.

  159. DW says:

    If you doubt me that Cook is just openly cheerleading…this from RRH:

    @Redistrict
    Following Following @Redistrict
    More
    Today, @CookPolitical will be changing our rating in #PA17’s clash between Reps. Conor Lamb (D) & Keith Rothfus (R) from Toss Up to Lean Democratic.
    I assume he saw the Monmouth poll coming today.

    There have been polls that have come out in favor of the GOP candidate, and nothing from Mr. Cheap Toupee.

    Here he cannot even wait for the Monmouth poll to be released, he has to jump the gun and change the ranking early.

  160. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:51 am
    You found one post raising an alarm from me, Robbie. Congratulations. I wasn’t slobbering all over every poll showing Evan Bayh with a large lead over Todd Young though, nor finding a reason to say literally every Republican running for Congress was going to lose in some 1932-style wave though.

    – I’d encourage you to go back and look at what you posted on October 7 and October 8 of 2016. It wasn’t just one post sounding the alarm.

    Regardless, I got 2016 wrong. I thought Trump’s unpopularity would tank the party and so did party leaders who expected a bloodbath as late as 7 PM on election night.

    Trump was bailed out by antipathy towards Clinton. If she was on the ballot again this year, Republican chances would be far better.

  161. Wes says:

    So Robbie in his desperation found two days where I expected Trump to be a major bane to the GOP. He forgets my posts closer to the election saying Hillary would win a close election while Republicans would hold Congress.

    That’s a far cry from his endless apocalyptic caterwauling starting the second JEB! left the presidential race.

  162. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 24, 2018 at 10:57 am
    It’s amazing how you only underestimate voters’ antipathy for a corrupt elitist, Robbie.

    – Well, when I compared it to a clownish reality TV star who spent every day of the campaign causing controversy and had zero experience in elected office, I thought the voters would go with the person who, at least, had some experience and didn’t have a video tape talking about grabbing p@ssy or attacking the parents of a soldier who died in Iraq.

  163. DW says:

    51/39 is the PA_17 poll, now released in favor of Lamb over Rothfus according to Monmouth

  164. Wes says:

    Ah. They were supposed to go with the person responsible for Benghazi who endangered national security by storing classified information on a personal computer. Good to know, Robbie.

  165. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:02 am
    So Robbie in his desperation found two days where I expected Trump to be a major bane to the GOP. He forgets my posts closer to the election saying Hillary would win a close election while Republicans would hold Congress.
    That’s a far cry from his endless apocalyptic caterwauling starting the second JEB! left the presidential race.

    – I’m hardly desperate. I pointed out that, for a time, you shared my view. I stuck with my view through election day and have owned it ever since. I got 2016 wrong, but I got 2004, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, and 2014 right. I’ll take that track record.

  166. DW says:

    MoE on that poll for likely voters is 5.2. And they admit they did all sorts of tweaking and so forth with dem surge models and the like.

  167. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:05 am
    Ah. They were supposed to go with the person responsible for Benghazi who endangered national security by storing classified information on a personal computer. Good to know, Robbie.

    – Didn’t you predict Hillary would win as well?

    I thought we were arguing why I thought Trump would swamp the party in House and Senate races?

    I was wrong. I’m not disputing that.

  168. Wes says:

    I did predict Hillary would win. Unlike you, I wasn’t doing it because JEB! lost the primaries–and certainly wasn’t hoping the entire GOP from Senate to dogcatcher would go down with Trump.

  169. Wes says:

    You were literally hoping if JEB! couldn’t be President, 2016 would be another 1932, 1936, or 1964. You simply won’t rest till the GOP is down to Depression-era levels of support to spite them for failing to nominate JEB!.

  170. Todd McCain says:

    Had JEB been nominated, Hillary would be nominating her second supreme court justice now.

  171. DW says:

    176 – Todd McCain. You are wrong. She would NOT be nominating her second SCOTUS justice, she would be nominating her THIRD–Ginsburg would have retired along with Kennedy.

  172. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:08 am
    I did predict Hillary would win. Unlike you, I wasn’t doing it because JEB! lost the primaries–and certainly wasn’t hoping the entire GOP from Senate to dogcatcher would go down with Trump.

    – I’m not sure why you are so riled up. I wrote repeatedly during the 2016 campaign I thought almost any Republican (excluding Rand) would have beaten Hillary. Jeb was my favorite and I battled hard for him in the primaries, but I always wrote I would happily vote for Rubio, Kasich, Cruz, or even Romney had he run as a third party candidate. In fact, I argued I thought Romney could win a three-way race against Trump and Clinton.

    I only thought the House and Senate, especially, were in danger because of Trump’s very poor polling. For much of the Fall campaign, he polled around 40% (a little higher sometimes, a little lower sometimes). Analyst after analyst suggested a presidential nominee around 40% was wipeout territory for the party. I agreed. I was wrong.

  173. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:11 am
    You were literally hoping if JEB! couldn’t be President, 2016 would be another 1932, 1936, or 1964. You simply won’t rest till the GOP is down to Depression-era levels of support to spite them for failing to nominate JEB!.

    – You’re just making stuff up. I get it. You hated Jeb and his brother. Fine.

    I predicted doom because Trump was the nominee. Not because Jeb wasn’t the nominee.

  174. Robbie says:

    Todd McCain says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:13 am
    Had JEB been nominated, Hillary would be nominating her second supreme court justice now.

    – Laughable.

  175. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:14 am
    176 – Todd McCain. You are wrong. She would NOT be nominating her second SCOTUS justice, she would be nominating her THIRD–Ginsburg would have retired along with Kennedy.

    – I still get a kick remembering how you would post polling of how an imaginary Rubio campaign would have been doing had he been the nominee because you were so upset with Trump.

  176. DW says:

    The Dem challenger in CO_06 has released an internal poll showing him up 2 points, 47/45. This a seat the dems have high hopes to flip.

    Not exactly a show of strength given PPP polled this race earlier in the year and found the Dem up 5 points, 44/39.

  177. DW says:

    181 and what does my support of Rubio in the primary have to do with Hillary not appointing any SCOTUS justices?

    It is no secret I did not support Trump in the primary. At the time, given the info we had, he looked like a disaster waiting to happen. He was one of the few GOP candidates who could lose to Hillary. But Trump barely won. My fear was he would become a Pelosi/Schumer lap dog and go full David Souter.

    Thankfully he has led in a tax cut, has reduced regulations, and given us Gorsuch and Kavanaugh. I am not excited about the tariffs, but he has certainly done much better than my worst fears.

    But it is silly and pointless to keep re-living the 2016 GOP primary. What is done is done.

  178. Wes says:

    I predicted doom because Trump was the nominee. Not because Jeb wasn’t the nominee.

    This is not at all true, Robbie. You’ll never get over JEB!’s failure to win. We all know that.

  179. Wes says:

    The Left is battling the far Left in Kansas to take on Kevin Yoder:

    http://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/democrats-duke-strategy-must-win-kansas-district

  180. Robbie says:

    Let’s remember a few things about the 2016 race. First, it was a widely held view on this forum Trump would be a terrible nominee and he would lose. Anyone who claims that wasn’t the case is just not being honest about the sentiment that was reflected here.

    Second, let’s not misremember the quality of the Trump candidacy. It was a steaming pile of crap. He had the Judge Curiel controversy, the Khan controversy, and Access Hollywood controversy. He also had a campaign staff that was the D team of Republican politics and it showed. He fired Lewandowski and he fired Manafort (Manafort’s trail starts next week).

    Third, even though Trump won the electoral vote, he only got 46% of the national vote. In contrast Republican candidates for the House got 53% of the vote I believe. In other words, he underperformed the generic Republican vote by about 7 points.

    Does anyone really think Rubio, Kasich, Cruz, Jeb, Walker, or Christie would have done worse than 46%? Does anyone think they would have been hit by repeated scandal, most of their own making, as Trump was? No. Of course not. They would have made Hillary the issue. Despite all of Trump’s miscues, she still only got 48% of the vote and that was helped greatly by California.

  181. BayernFan says:

    I viewed Trump as the only candidate who could beat Hillary. He fights. Thats why he was nominated. I didn’t know how he would specifically govern. I wanted the GOP to win first. I kinda knew how others would have governed. go along get along. Perhaps the Dems could have worked with Trump on immigration and infrastructure. But they declined. Now, I wonder what proactive issues Trump can raise after the tax cuts etc. I wish he and the GOP would champion real infrastructure. They need the working class.

  182. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:26 am
    I predicted doom because Trump was the nominee. Not because Jeb wasn’t the nominee.
    This is not at all true, Robbie. You’ll never get over JEB!’s failure to win. We all know that.

    – Wes. You’re better than this. Go back and read what I wrote about Jeb’s campaign in September 2015. I knew then he wasn’t going to be the nominee. It was Corey who continued to say it was too early to give up on him.

    I wish Jeb had won. But I also wish Rubio, Kasich, Romney, Cruz, Walker or the others had won over Trump.

    The only candidate I believed would lose to Hillary and put the Congressional majorities in danger was Trump. It had nothing to do with Jeb. It had everything to do with Trump.

  183. DW says:

    Robbie’s great-grandfather was a reporter in New York City, and wrote this upon receiving the news that Titanic sunk:

    “It is amusing that the so-called experts have so quickly changed their view, saying the Titanic was sinkable after all. This was the most unsinkable luxury liner ever built, and history will validate this. This great ship did not reach New York only due to the negligence of the crew, and for no other reason. This ship was unsinkable the day it launched, and is unsinkable today.”

  184. DW says:

    Hillary was hated. Her negative numbers were horrible. Trump’s negatives were only slightly better. Most of the other GOP candidates had much higher favorabilities and would have won easily. She was that bad a candidate.

    Speaking of her, there is a story out there about her wearing around her neck one of those ‘fallen and cannot get up’ devices.

  185. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:35 am

    They need the working class.

    – He’s doing it at the expense of the suburbs, though, and that’s a big problem if you want to remain the majority party.

  186. CG says:

    I never predicted Jeb would be the nominee. I said from the outset that I was surprised he was running and I doubted he would be nominated but that he was the best person to be President out of those who ran, and that he was electable against Hillary Clinton. That has remained my view. I believed that the voters in the first states to vote should have the right to winnow the field. They did. There were other good choices besides Jeb Bush and unfortunately, the party picked Trump.

    The idea that anybody here or elsewhere who supported Jeb Bush was not more than fine with supporting a different mainstream Republican candidate later on in the primaries or in a general election is of course ridiculous.

  187. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:38 am
    Robbie’s great-grandfather was a reporter in New York City, and wrote this upon receiving the news that Titanic sunk:
    “It is amusing that the so-called experts have so quickly changed their view, saying the Titanic was sinkable after all. This was the most unsinkable luxury liner ever built, and history will validate this. This great ship did not reach New York only due to the negligence of the crew, and for no other reason. This ship was unsinkable the day it launched, and is unsinkable today.”

    – Considering the captain ordered the ship to maintain full speed even as it sailed through a known area of icebergs and ignored warnings from other ships that icebergs were in the area, it does seem the sinking of the Titanic was due almost totally to the actions of the captain.

  188. BayernFan says:

    Hillary would have made a meal out of Cruz, Rubio, and Jeb. Kasich would have sucked up to her like McCain did to Obama. None of them would have had the stones to turn to her in front of 100,000,000 people on live TV and said “If I’m President you will go to jail”. None of them would have even thought of it. They would have been too busy defending themselves.

  189. CG says:

    Trump never said that to her in the debate either.

    All he said was that he would recommend a special prosecutor. He has not.

  190. Wes says:

    If Bay really thinks saying he would send Hillary to jail helped Trump win the election, then I can see why he lost money in a fool’s bet on Christine O’Donnell.

  191. BayernFan says:

    It’s a myth that the Titanic was traveling at a reckless speed. She was not built to break speed records. A good documentary on this is from Nat Geo…..Titanic:Case Closed. Interesting hypothesis. Also….the transcripts of the American and British investigations are a good read.

  192. Wes says:

    Ultimately Trump did win, but let’s not forget his victory was cobbled together because of a series of slender victories in states Hillary ignored while trying to peel off former Romney states–NC being the prime example of those. Had Hillary taken him more seriously, it’s hard to see how she would have been unable to hold states such as WI, MI, and PA.

    Look, Trump won. Kudos to him. I’m not going to pretend he was some stellar candidate though. He won as much because of the colossal missteps of his opponent as because of his appeal to a specific type of voter.

  193. BayernFan says:

    “If Bay really thinks saying he would send Hillary to jail helped Trump win the election, then I can see why he lost money in a fool’s bet on Christine O’Donnell.”

    Says the guy who thought for a year that Trump had no chance to win the election. ay dios mio!

  194. Wes says:

    Fair enough. I’m also the only person ever to beat MD in a bet on here. At the same time, I didn’t think a corrupt deadbeat who took it on the chin the second polls closed was some kind of great Senate candidate.

  195. CG says:

    I bet MD on a bet regarding the 2010 Stanley Cup Final.

  196. CG says:

    Beat, as well.

  197. Wes says:

    MD bet on the Stanley Cup? I did not know. Before 2016, he used to brag he had never lost a bet on here.

  198. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    July 24, 2018 at 11:46 am
    Hillary would have made a meal out of Cruz, Rubio, and Jeb. Kasich would have sucked up to her like McCain did to Obama. None of them would have had the stones to turn to her in front of 100,000,000 people on live TV and said “If I’m President you will go to jail”. None of them would have even thought of it. They would have been too busy defending themselves.

    – No, she would not have. The national atmosphere was aligned for the Republicans to win the presidency just as it was for Democrats in 2008. The only reason Hillary had a shot was due to the fact Republicans nominated Trump.

    Had Rubio been the nominee, he’d have gotten 52% of the vote to her 47%. A similar margin would have been there for Kasich, Cruz, Walker, Jeb, and the rest.

  199. Chicon says:

    Where does this assumption that any Republican could have beaten Hillary? Which would have taken WI, MI, PA?

  200. Wes says:

    First tariffs, now farm bailouts:

    NYGOP July 24, 2018 at 11:57 am

    The Trump administration plans to offer billions of dollars in aid to farmers hit by tariffs on their goods, an emergency bailout intended to ease the pain caused by Trump’s escalating trade war in key electoral states, people briefed on the plan told CNBC.

    The total aid amount is reportedly about $12 billion. A senior administration official told NBC News that the aid would be temporary.

    Take it away, Mikey! Explain to us how this is the conservative thing for Trump to do. (Electorally it probably is a boon to the GOP. From the standpoint of responsible fiscal governance, not so much.)

  201. Wes says:

    That assumes another Republican would have needed those states to win, Chicon. That’s not necessarily the case. Failing to win those states would still leave the GOP nominee at 278 EVs–more than enough to win. At the same time, states such as NV and CO that reacted decidedly negatively to Trump would likely have been more receptive to a different candidate.

  202. Wes says:

    I was off. The Republicans would have won 260 EVs without those. That’s still a manageable playing field if the Republican wins NV and CO at least.

  203. Wes says:

    Then again, since Hillary likely would have had the same strategy of trying to peel off former Romney states, we don’t know PA, WI, and MI wouldn’t have been in play anyway. Trump won them in large part because Hillary ignored them. Would another theoretical GOP nominee have written them off?

    We don’t know, but it seems unlikely if trends indicated softness in Hillary’s support.

  204. DW says:

    205 – I would not say ANY Republican, but most of them probably would have beaten Hillary IF they ran the right sort of campaign against her. Look, her negatives were in the toilet. She was hated. She was not compelling. She was shrill. She was arrogant. Over and over I heard from people who said their vote would be an easy one if either candidate was the least bit palatable. Trump barely beat her (less than 100k votes total in PA/MI/WI), and his unfavorable numbers were only slightly better than hers. Someone with much higher favorability would have won by a larger margin…again, IF they actually campaigned hard and kept her on the defensive. If the GOP candidate was a wimp who praised Hillary and thereby raised her unfavorable numbers, then its a different election.

    Counter-factual historical studies are always interesting, but fruitless because we cannot actually play out all the specifics that would have made up the alternative reality.

  205. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    July 24, 2018 at 12:00 pm
    Where does this assumption that any Republican could have beaten Hillary? Which would have taken WI, MI, PA?

    – In contrast, from where does the assumption come that only Trump, who got only 46% of the national vote, could have won? You’d have to agree that his tone and multiple self inflicted wounds held down his vote in a way that wouldn’t have happened with other candidates, right?

    Hillary lost PA, MI, and WI for one reason. The African American vote in Philadelphia, Detroit, and Milwaukee did not show up in the total numbers needed to win statewide. That fact was dependent on her. It didn’t have anything to do with the Republican candidate. She didn’t motivate the Obama voters in the way he had in 2008 and 2012.

    Trump certainly maximized the rural vote, but his performance in the suburbs was not as strong as past Republicans if you look at the totals House candidates got vs. what Trump got.

    Other Republicans certainly would not have been scandal prone in the way Trump was, have suffered self inflicted wounds, or have caused so much dissention within their own party.

    Let’s not forget. As it turned out 2016 was a referendum on Obama’s presidency and Clinton was treated as an incumbent in much the same way McCain was in 2008. The deck was tacked against her.

  206. CG says:

    New Hampshire and Virginia as well were winnable with a better Republican fit.

    All ancient history now.

  207. BayernFan says:

    Gotta win the working class to win if you’re GOP. Another good thing about Trump is that he wasn’t and isn’t afraid to ask usual and assumed Dem constituencies for their vote. He did do better with blacks and Hispanics than Romney.

    Romney would probably have won if he had called for breaking up some big banks.

    The Dems tie to banks is their Achilles heel, not the GOP’s.

  208. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    July 24, 2018 at 12:12 pm
    New Hampshire and Virginia as well were winnable with a better Republican fit.
    All ancient history now.

    – I’d argue another Republican would have won PA, MI, WI, VA, CO, and possibly even NM. The debate about 2016 is water over the bridge, but I think a nominee other than Trump could be successful in these states in 2020. The country is still what is was in 2014. It just has reacted poorly to Trump. Remove Trump and I think Republicans go back to being the favorites.

  209. Wes says:

    Romney did better with blacks and latinos than McCain. Was Trump’s increase in support because of Trump or because of a preexisting ebbing of support among the Dems with those groups?

  210. CG says:

    Any amount among black and Hispanic voters that Trump did “better” than Romney is marginal at best. Trump did not have to run against Obama or against an incumbent.

    Romney of course did better with all Americans than Trump.

  211. Wes says:

    Correlation does not always equal causality, Bay. You look at what Trump did and assume that was the only way for the GOP to win and was not replicable by anyone else. Hillary would have been the Dem nominee regardless of whether Trump won the GOP nomination or not. That means all the flaws Trump exploited would still have been present for another Republican to attack.

  212. Redmen4ever says:

    The Republican Party of McKinley was strong in the northeast and mid east, but weak in the plains and non-existent in the south.

    Trump was able to rally blue-collar workers with anti-immigrant and anti-trade talk, but he won because he did this without alienating key elements of the GOP coalition. Now, as he actually puts our export markets at risk, he undermines a big part of our coalition. The offer of subsidies to agriculture should be viewed as an insult.

    Trade wars are heading for disaster politically as well as economically.

  213. Wes says:

    Actually, Redmen, during the early McKinley years, the GOP had a toehold in the South here in NC. Then Dems in 1898 and 1900 rallied along with the Klan to forcibly keep blacks from voting and reasserted control over local politics (except for some pockets in the state that have remarkably always been GOP), maintaining absolute dominance until 1972.

  214. jason says:

    Trade wars are heading for disaster politically as well as economically.”

    Yep, but hey, the AFL-CIO conservatives here are thrilled with the idea.

  215. Chicon says:

    214 – interesting theory. When was the last time a Republican won WI, MI, or PA? Been awhile. Which of the other candidates was gonna sing the song the white middle class wanted to hear?

  216. Redmen4ever says:

    Regarding THE POTENTIAL Republican vote of 2016:

    Trump PLUS Johnson beat Clinton PLUS the green is every state that Trump won PLUS: NM, CO, NV, NH, MN and ME.

    Trump was an amazing campaigner. His personal energy was off the scale. He made up for a tremendous disadvantage in money (including the bottomless pit of soft money the Democrats extorted from banks). He connected with middle class anxieties.

    Let’s give him his due.

    But, for all the resources of the Democrats, Trump was running against an historically weak opponent.

    All we really know is this: we have an opportunity to consolidate our big and very broad victory of 2016, but this means ADDING Trump’s supporters to our base, and gaining new supporters from those benefiting from the strong economy, NOT destroying our coalition. Played correctly and 2020 will be like 1984.

  217. Chicon says:

    Yep, lots of people here seeking an end goal of humongous tariffs. Lol.

  218. Todd McCain says:

    Trump is going to have something he didn’t have last time for 2020 and that is the power of a significant money advantage. NYT just had an article about how he already has raised 100M. Dems will come out of their primary broke.

  219. Wes says:

    I’d rather 2020 be like 1920 than 1984, Redmen. Yes, Reagan won big, but Republicans lost two Senate seats and netted up only sixteen in the House while netting up only one governorship.

    In contrast, 1920 was an overwhelming victory up and down the ticket.

  220. Wes says:

    I wouldn’t be so quick to say that, Todd. Dems had contested primaries in 2000, 2008, and 2016 and still had plenty of money to compete in the general.

  221. Todd McCain says:

    He had zero fundraising infrastructure in 2016; that is now completely in place for 2020.

  222. Redmen4ever says:

    Thanks, Wes.

    People think the hate is bad today. Back in those days, the Democrats used lynching to suppress the Republican vote.

    You’re correct, the Republicans did have a presence in some of the Southern states. Not every Southern state was a one-party state. Mississippi, in 1888, Republicans got 5.5 percent of the vote. THAT’S a one-party state. In North Carolina, we got 28.3 percent. That’s nowhere near competitive. But, it ain’t nothing either.

    By the 1920s, we started to actually win some of the states in the once Solid South. Of course, then came the Smoot-Hawley Tariff turning what might have merely been a recession into the Great Depression and that the other party went into ascendancy.

  223. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    July 24, 2018 at 12:33 pm
    214 – interesting theory. When was the last time a Republican won WI, MI, or PA? Been awhile. Which of the other candidates was gonna sing the song the white middle class wanted to hear?

    – Last win in WI was 1984, but look at all of the success Walker has had statewide there.

    The last win in MI was 1988, but look at all of the success the party had there in 2010 and 2014 with Rick Synder.

    The last win in PA was 1988, but look at the success the party has had there recently at the state house and state senate level.

    I think this is due mainly to white voters becoming, in general, more Republican. I don’t think it had a lot to do with a white middle class message.

    If we use Rubio as an example, I think he’d have won all three states due to his candidate abilities and the general trend of white voters moving to the right. I don’t think it would have been because he was viewed as the candidate of the white middle class.

    I think some of these theories about why Trump won are really not much more than people looking to explain what was viewed as a surprising outcome. In my view, the national dynamics controlled the state of play. The country was ready to give Republicans a try after eight years of a relatively unpopular president like Obama.

  224. Robbie says:

    Redmen4ever says:
    July 24, 2018 at 12:33 pm
    Regarding THE POTENTIAL Republican vote of 2016:
    Trump PLUS Johnson beat Clinton PLUS the green is every state that Trump won PLUS: NM, CO, NV, NH, MN and ME.
    Trump was an amazing campaigner. His personal energy was off the scale. He made up for a tremendous disadvantage in money (including the bottomless pit of soft money the Democrats extorted from banks). He connected with middle class anxieties.
    Let’s give him his due.
    But, for all the resources of the Democrats, Trump was running against an historically weak opponent.
    All we really know is this: we have an opportunity to consolidate our big and very broad victory of 2016, but this means ADDING Trump’s supporters to our base, and gaining new supporters from those benefiting from the strong economy, NOT destroying our coalition. Played correctly and 2020 will be like 1984.

    – A lot of good stuff here.

  225. Wes says:

    Izengabe July 24, 2018 at 12:24 pm | In reply to NYGOP

    Let’s raise taxes on imported goods and have the federal government hand out $12 billion in government subsidies to favored industries the administration chooses! This is the new Republican Party? F-that! If Obama did this the Tea Party would rightly be protesting in the streets.
    Follow me on Twitter: @Izengabe_

    Sue me, but I actually agree with this RRH Napoleon.

  226. Robbie says:

    Todd McCain says:
    July 24, 2018 at 12:35 pm
    Trump is going to have something he didn’t have last time for 2020 and that is the power of a significant money advantage. NYT just had an article about how he already has raised 100M. Dems will come out of their primary broke.

    – Money is, quite often, overrated. Otherwise, my man Jeb would have been the nominee.

    All of the money in the world can’t overcome negative feelings when the voters are ready for a change.

    If the voters have had enough of Trump in 2020, I doubt there will be a number large enough to overcome that sentiment.

  227. Robbie says:

    When Rand Paul is right, he’s right.

    Senator Rand Paul
    @RandPaul

    Tariffs are taxes that punish American consumers and producers. If tariffs punish farmers, the answer is not welfare for farmers — the answer is remove the tariffs.

  228. Robbie says:

    Considering we’ve spent the morning discussing how Trump won the white working class, this seems important. The Q poll was taken a few days after the Russia summit and impressions had of it had been more fully absorbed. Helsinki was a terrible moment for Trump’s presidency and it came at a really bad time.

    Josh Kraushaar
    @HotlineJosh

    RED ALERT: One of biggest takeaways from Q poll: Trump slipping badly with his blue-collar white base.

    Was at 57/36 (+21) approval last month; down to 49-47 (+2) this month.

  229. Messy says:

    226. You have to remember that in 1920, the President was out of action for over a year and people were just realizing that the brutal war they had just been through had been a disgusting wasted of time. Then Woody came out of his coma and prevented a decent compromise when it came to the versilles treaty.

    A Democrat (Woody) had been in he White House or eight years and controlled both houses for six of the last eight years. Plus there was the killer flu and the Post-war Depression, which America was then in the middle of, and was blamed on the Democrats.

  230. Wes says:

    Thanks for the history lesson, Messy. I know what happened in 1920. In fact, the 1920 presidential election is my personal favorite to study.

  231. Messy says:

    229. 1n 1884, the Democrats were “Republicans” and Republicans were “Democrats.”

    230. Rick Snyder was a fascist. I can prove this by the “emergency manager” thing. Literally getting rid of small-d democracy in local government and having a bunch of corrupt little dictators run roughshod over people and property. The dictatorial regime in Flint Michigan literally killed people.

    Do not say that this was good government.

  232. hugh says:

    If the economy is growing at 4% and unemployment is at historic lows the tariffs will only mean something to the economists who we followed blindly. And look what that got us. if tariffs are always bad why is china growing 7% plus per year and stealing our technology and getting away with it? that just doesn’t fit the narrative does it

  233. Wes says:

    Harding won by the widest popular percentage margin in history: 60.3% to 34.1%. Harding carried every state outside the South and even poached Tennessee. Republicans surged by 65 seats in the House and 10 in the Senate. In some places in the South, Republicans even picked up seats in Congress. Dems were obliterated coast to coast. Harding beat Cox so badly the GOP even carried New York City. Coolidge was the only Republican since to ape this feat.

    It was so bad Jim Cox’s campaign manager even famously said, “It wasn’t a landslide. It was an earthquake.”

  234. Robbie says:

    hugh says:
    July 24, 2018 at 1:31 pm
    If the economy is growing at 4% and unemployment is at historic lows the tariffs will only mean something to the economists who we followed blindly. And look what that got us. if tariffs are always bad why is china growing 7% plus per year and stealing our technology and getting away with it? that just doesn’t fit the narrative does it

    – Nonsense.

    If tariffs have no impact, why is Trump ready to give a $12 billion bailout to farmers adversely affected by his tariffs?

    If tariffs are so good, why did Smoot/Hawley only make the depression of 1929 even worse?

  235. Robbie says:

    One thing I’ve come to believe over the last few months is it was a huge mistake for the Freedom Caucus to force out John Boehner in September 2015. Unlike Paul Ryan, Boehner actually knew what he was doing and I think he would have been a much better leader of the House and would have been able to talk Trump out of some of his dumber ideas like tariffs. I think it goes without saying, Trump doesn’t fear Ryan one bit.

  236. Robbie says:

    Who are you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes?

    Vera Bergengruen
    @VeraMBergen

    “Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what’s happening” Trump says at the Veterans of Foreign Wars convention.

  237. hugh says:

    I try to keep my messages short. My point is not that the tariffs will not have a negative impact on some. however, with 4% growth and record low unemployment and the best economy in a very long time most will be doing much better under trump even with tariffs. Also, there were lots of reasons why the recovery in 1929 was so bad and this is not 1929, I think comparing today to 1929 is not much of a point.

  238. NYCmike says:

    As I have for the last 2 years, I will simply preach patience.

    The current political climate feels NOTHING like 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, or 2014. You want to know why? Twitter.

    As we have seen many times, the first mid-term for any President is a tough one. Routine losses between 20-30 seats are normal. I look to Trump to make some mistakes, but also to do some good things. I look to a Republican Congress to also do good things, and figure out a way to get Democrats to take some tough votes on voter-friendly proposals.

  239. Messy says:

    243. That wasn’t Vera Bergengruen, that was Chico Marx.

    245. there was twitter in ’12 and ’14.

    The Republicans won in ’10 because of The Deepwater Horizon oil spill, and they won in ’14 because of rumors of ebola in the US spread on twitter.

  240. NYCmike says:

    “245. there was twitter in ’12 and ’14.”

    -Get outta town!/

    Did the Republican President at that time use it effectively?

    Or was President Obama still in office, and along with his mainstream media lapdogs, made sure to only print the news favorable to Democrats?

  241. NYCmike says:

    “The Republicans won in ’10 because of The Deepwater Horizon oil spill, and they won in ’14 because of rumors of ebola in the US spread on twitter.”

    -Heh.

  242. NYCmike says:

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/23/democrats-willing-make-orphaned-abused-children-casualties-war-religion/

    -DEEP blue states will skew the numbers for Congress.

    I predict Republicans hold the House.

    Gains in the Senate will be at least 3.

  243. NYCmike says:

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trade-nafta-seade/mexico-trade-adviser-sees-nafta-deal-in-next-few-months-idUSKBN1KE1TR

    -There is a quote, I believe it was from Reince Priebus, which gave a good explanation of how Trump operates.

    Robbie will ignore it since it does not fit with his narrative, fed to him by the MSM.

  244. NYCmike says:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-irs-gives-up-power-for-once-and-the-left-goes-nuts

    -More “liberal Democrat” from one of Trump’s cabinet picks!/

  245. NYCmike says:

    Robbie/”CG” to skip over those links in 3…..2…..1….

  246. jason says:

    Any amount among black and Hispanic voters that Trump did “better” than Romney is marginal at best.”

    Even Nate Silverhack agrees that Trump outperformed Romney among Latinos.

    And

    “Donald Trump performed stronger among black and Hispanic voters than Mitt Romney did as the Republican nominee in 2012, according to NBC Exit Polls

    Trump claimed 29 percent of the Hispanic vote on Tuesday compared to Romney’s 27 percent in 2012. With blacks, exit polls show Trump claimed 8 percent of the vote to the previous Republican nominee’s 6 percent.”

    Not a huge difference but considering the barrage of propaganda Trump was subject to, pretty remarkable even if he had underperformed Romney if would have been quite a feat.”

    Of course, the reason is quite simple. A lot of legal Hispanics had the same low opinion of Hillary as other groups, and immigration was not the only issue on their minds.

    Same with AAs, many of them are interested in getting ahead, not just waiting for survival rations from the Democrats.

  247. jason says:

    Huh, “even if he had undeperformed Romney by a few points”

  248. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 24, 2018 at 2:42 pm
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trade-nafta-seade/mexico-trade-adviser-sees-nafta-deal-in-next-few-months-idUSKBN1KE1TR
    -There is a quote, I believe it was from Reince Priebus, which gave a good explanation of how Trump operates.
    Robbie will ignore it since it does not fit with his narrative, fed to him by the MSM.

    – I will ignore it because story after story has suggested a trade deal with Mexico was just around the corner.

    Also, why would I care what Reince Priebus has to say? His awful leadership at the RNC coddled Trump throughout 2015, he and his advisors worked overtime to stop any revolt against Trump at the convention, and then he became the most ineffective and hapless chief of staff in White House history.

    Priebus discredited himself just as Sean Spicer did. If either of them told me today was Tuesday, I’d still check the calendar.

  249. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 24, 2018 at 2:48 pm
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/epa-under-pruitt-slashed-350-million-in-regulations-300-000-hours-of-red-tape
    -Oh yeah, Scott Pruitt was TERRIBLE!/

    – I love the new standard NYCmike has endorsed. He may be one of the most corrupt cabinet members in recent times, but he did things I like so who cares.

  250. jason says:

    When Rand Paul is right, he’s right.

    Senator Rand Paul
    @RandPaul

    Tariffs are taxes that punish American consumers and producers. If tariffs punish farmers, the answer is not welfare for farmers — the answer is remove the tariffs.”

    Well, Hallelujah, I finally agree with something Rand Paul said.

    Ok so be it, I will take a few showers and overcome this latest challenge in life.

  251. jason says:

    His awful leadership at the RNC coddled Trump throughout 2015,”

    LOL

    Translation: Preibus didn’t try to engineer some kind of coup to appoint Jeb as the nominee.

  252. DW says:

    “DEEP blue states will skew the numbers for Congress.”

    That’s what I have been saying all along.

    Just like Trump can win while losing the popular vote due to Commifornia, there are places where the Republicans will hold on because extra motivated votes gained in San Fran only pads the local dem victory, and doesn’t help the dem challenger in KS_03

  253. jason says:

    Where does this assumption that any Republican could have beaten Hillary? Which would have taken WI, MI, PA?”

    Nobody except Trump would have drawn enough of the blue collar vote to swing those states.

    I didn’t support Trump, I thought he would lose, but I was wrong.

    I think Rubio could have won a few states Trump didn’t win, maybe CO, NM, NV, NH, even VA, but he wouldn’t have won WI, MI, PA… nor would he have won Ohio by half a million votes. So most likely he would have lost. He probably wouldn’t have lost the popular vote by the margin Trump did because he would have kept it closer in CA and NY and IL and won by bigger margins in FL and TX.

    Nobody else would have come close.

    Only Trump could have beaten Hillary. Only Hillary could have lost to Trump.

  254. jason says:

    So NYC, do you think Rand Paul is wrong?”

    Tariffs are taxes that punish American consumers and producers.

    Yes or no?

    This could be new first at HHR too.

  255. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 24, 2018 at 3:05 pm
    His awful leadership at the RNC coddled Trump throughout 2015,”
    LOL
    Translation: Preibus didn’t try to engineer some kind of coup to appoint Jeb as the nominee.

    – Wrong. Rather than publicly denounce Trump for some of his statements, Priebus tried to coddle him. Trump saw Priebus for what he was, a weak and feckless person who he could manipulate. And manipulate him he did.

    What Priebus should have done was tell Trump if he continued to make inflammatory comments on the campaign trail, he would not be allowed on the debate stage since he wasn’t a real Republican or a conservative. Democrats did that to Lyndon Larouche and Republicans should have done that to Trump. Trump would have protested for a period of time, but he would have disappeared and the desire to beat Hillary would have smoothed over any hard feelings.

    Instead, Priebus and the RNC got played by Trump. When Trump threatened to run third party (he never would since it would cost his own money), Priebus came up with the stupid pledge with Trump turned into a fiasco press conference.

    Haley Barbour and Frank Farenkopt never would have allowed such a mess in the Summer of 2015.

  256. jason says:

    Just to make it clear, I don’t think I was wrong in not supporting Trump, I was wrong in thinking he couldn’t win (or get the nomination).

  257. jason says:

    Trump saw Priebus for what he was, a weak and feckless person who he could manipulate. And manipulate him he did.

    Instead, Priebus and the RNC got played by Trump”

    Sounds like Amoral Scumbag thinks Trump is pretty smart.

    I agree.

  258. jason says:

    I am not against the idea that the RNC could have denied Trump the right to run as an R considering on the grounds he was not a Republican or a conservative. That would have been an option BEFORE the primaries, but not DURING, it was too late for that.

    I think the rationale BEFORE the primaries was that Trump would run as a third party candidate and elect Hillary. Letting him run at the time was considered a minor risk, while not letting him run was a major risk.

    I think Preibus made the right call.

    After the primaries started, I disagree that Preibus could have done anything. Too late.

  259. jason says:

    hat Priebus should have done was tell Trump if he continued to make inflammatory comments on the campaign trail, he would not be allowed on the debate stage”

    Not realistic.

    And he probably thought, as I did, that the inflammatory statements would doom Trump, not help him.

  260. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 24, 2018 at 3:13 pm

    Only Trump could have beaten Hillary. Only Hillary could have lost to Trump.

    – So you’re saying only Trump could have gotten as high as 46% of the national vote and the rest would have gotten less? That can’t possibly be your position.

    Republican House candidates got about 53% of the vote across the country in 2016. That means Trump could have conceivably underperformed another less controversial candidate by as much as 7 points.

    Trump won in spite of himself. The reason he only got 46% of the vote is he spent most of his time shooting himself in the foot.

    I agree Trump only could have won with Hillary as his opponent. That said, Hillary only got 48% of the vote against the worst national nominee Republicans could have chosen.

    Trump oversaw a fractured party that, in many ways, opposed him until election day itself. Just four weeks before the voting, half of the Republican elected officials in DC called on him to drop out. Pence had apparently lined up Condi Rice to run as his VP.

    In the primary, I had my doubts about Rubio, but he absolutely would have beaten Hillary by 5 points nationally (probably more). Hillary only remained competitive because her opponent was Trump. Otherwise, she was cooked and the polling DW always referred to showed that.

    Rubio (or several of the others) would have won PA, MI, WI, OH, FL, VA, and CO for a couple of reasons. First, the country was ready for change after eight unpopular years of Obama. Second, white voters had been swinging towards the Republican Party for some time and Obama accelerated it, and the key Democrat base voters were unexcited by Hillary.

  261. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 24, 2018 at 3:22 pm
    I am not against the idea that the RNC could have denied Trump the right to run as an R considering on the grounds he was not a Republican or a conservative. That would have been an option BEFORE the primaries, but not DURING, it was too late for that.
    I think the rationale BEFORE the primaries was that Trump would run as a third party candidate and elect Hillary. Letting him run at the time was considered a minor risk, while not letting him run was a major risk.
    I think Preibus made the right call.
    After the primaries started, I disagree that Preibus could have done anything. Too late.

    – To be clear, my point was that Priebus should have laid down the law with Trump in the Summer or 2015, six months before the primary voting began. And at the time, I absolutely thought he should have just not allowed him to debate. I still think that was the right call to make.

    As for his musings about a third party run, he was never going to do that. First, Trump was never going to be willing to spend that kind of money on something he knew would not make him president. Second, Trump was never going to jump through the burdensome hoops required to get on all 50 state ballots. Bloomberg figured it would cost him $250 million to do that and run an effective campaign. Trump was never going to spend that kind of money.

  262. DW says:

    “U.S. appeals court rules that Second Amendment protects the right to openly carry a firearm outside the home in self-defense”

    https://twitter.com/lawrencehurley/status/1021784847818403841

  263. NYCmike says:

    Of course Rand Paul is correct, tariffs are a form of taxes. I have not said otherwise.

    Do they punish American consumers and producers? Maybe.

    The more important question at this time may be: Do the voters in the cities/towns devastated by supposed free trade agreements care about the punishment shared by all of the consumers?

    And should a Republican administration, which got those mostly Obama voters to come out for a Republican, go back to the same communities preaching platitudes about the benefits of free trade? Or should it attempt something different?

    Should they send a message, or craft a winning strategy with short-term pain, in order to get long-term results?

  264. DW says:

    One of my favorite Paladin (Have Gun Will Travel) episodes features a scene where a 12 year old boy arrives to school on horseback. He has a rifle slung over his shoulder. After a brief chat with Paladin, he goes on into the school and hangs his rifle and his hat on the back wall and takes his seat.

    If a kid did that today he would be arrested and jailed. The difference between 1878 and 2018 isn’t the rifle–it still fires the same way, by pulling the trigger. The difference is our culture–the people who pull the triggers.

  265. NYCmike says:

    “– To be clear, my point was that Priebus should have laid down the law with Trump….”

    -Trump obviously has little regard for the “laws” of politics……and the voters in the states which gave Trump over 300 Electoral Votes have the same regard.

  266. NYCmike says:

    “Haley Barbour and Frank Farenkopt never would have allowed such a mess in the Summer of 2015.”

    -They preferred the results in 2008 and 2012 better than 2016?

  267. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 24, 2018 at 3:24 pm
    hat Priebus should have done was tell Trump if he continued to make inflammatory comments on the campaign trail, he would not be allowed on the debate stage”
    Not realistic.
    And he probably thought, as I did, that the inflammatory statements would doom Trump, not help him.

    – The biggest mistake party officials and most of us made was believing Trump’s bombastic comments would eventually lead to his demise. I certainly thought that for a time, but my view changed when Trump held that August 2015 rally in Alabama and drew 30,000 or more people.

    There certainly would have been an uproar if Priebus had not allowed Trump to debate and Trump would have waived a bloody shirt. After about three weeks or so, people would have moved on and Trump would have been back on the Apprentice.

    Truth be told, I think the same thing would have happened had delegates overthrown Trump at the convention. His supporters would have bellyached for about three weeks and then would have gotten over it and rallied behind Pence or Cruz or whomever it was because the party wanted desperately to beat Hillary. For goodness sakes, they still chant “lock her up” two years later.

  268. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 24, 2018 at 3:41 pm
    “– To be clear, my point was that Priebus should have laid down the law with Trump….”
    -Trump obviously has little regard for the “laws” of politics……and the voters in the states which gave Trump over 300 Electoral Votes have the same regard.

    – In the Summer of 2015, Trump was running solely to increase his name ID and get a bigger paycheck from the Apprentice. The presidency was the last thing on his mind when he announced in June of that year. It was a branding opportunity. And in July and August 2015, Priebus could have used that fact to stop Trump from wreaking havoc on the process.

  269. dblaikie says:

    I see Wormtongue has been active. First of all if any believe that he will be depressed by a blue wave is delusional. He is rabid in his hatred of the President that he would be delighted to Nancy and Chuck running the Legislative Branch of our Government. Why, because if that happens the President, he believes, will be skewered and cooked to a crisp if that happens. And by the way, his registration is meaningless!!

    Wormtongue (Robbie) has the same pattern over and over again. He makes a huge assumption based on a some bogus poll or media outlet hostile to the President. Then of course since this is website that is based on discussion people point out that he is way off base. Wormtongue responds by not addressing the assumptions of his arguments but instead pointing out some long ago post by his critic that has nothing to do with what he posted in the first place. And on and on we go.

  270. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The speculation of how various candidates could have done in 2016 is just that, speculation. I can pick on Robbie about his wrong predictions at the time, but the fact is no one got it right. To claim two years later anyone suddenly has figured it out and knows how people would have voted if other candidates were running is ludicrous. We don’t know.

    The 2016 election marked a major change in U.S. politics; the old status quo collapsed in both parties. We are entering new territory, and no one has an accurate political map. The one thing that can be said is there is no going back to how things were prior to 2016.

    Also, whatever doubts there are about Trump being a Republican at the time, it is clear he dominates the party now. The latest NBC poll has his approval among Republicans at 88-9%.

  271. dblaikie says:

    I hate typos. “and he would be delighted to have Nancy and Chuck.

  272. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    277. “– In the Summer of 2015, Trump was running solely to increase his name ID and get a bigger paycheck from the Apprentice. The presidency was the last thing on his mind when he announced in June of that year. It was a branding opportunity. And in July and August 2015, Priebus could have used that fact to stop Trump from wreaking havoc on the process.”

    It is amazing how many assumptions you make in this statement. How do you know these are true? Did you talk to Trump?

  273. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 24, 2018 at 3:42 pm
    “Haley Barbour and Frank Farenkopt never would have allowed such a mess in the Summer of 2015.”
    -They preferred the results in 2008 and 2012 better than 2016?

    – To compare 2008 and 2012 to 2016 is just ignorant.

    In 2008, no Republican was going to win. The economy was in freefall, the war in Iraq was producing high casualties, and the Republican Party had just run out of steam. The country was ready for a change.

    In 2012, the country was clearly open to change, but Romney never found a way to capitalize on that. Just as importantly, Obama was able to energize minority voters in a way not seen before in politics.

    In 2016, all of the factors that were aligned against Republicans in 2008 and 2012 were aligned against Democrats.

    There’s no way to compare 2008 and 2012 to 2016.

  274. NYCmike says:

    SanDiego,

    I just copy-and-pasted the same quote.

    More “news” fed to him by his MSM masters, and he regurgitates it verbatim.

    I myself wondered if Trump was serious, but the simple fact that he saw it thru, hired like-minded fighters to accomplish winning the election, and then hired like-minded people like Mattis, Pruitt, Devos, etc to carry out his agenda shows that he has thought about the Presidency for a long time.

  275. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 24, 2018 at 3:52 pm
    277. “– In the Summer of 2015, Trump was running solely to increase his name ID and get a bigger paycheck from the Apprentice. The presidency was the last thing on his mind when he announced in June of that year. It was a branding opportunity. And in July and August 2015, Priebus could have used that fact to stop Trump from wreaking havoc on the process.”
    It is amazing how many assumptions you make in this statement. How do you know these are true? Did you talk to Trump?

    – I suppose it’s no different than you claiming I’m not a Republican or a conservative even though I’ve been registered Republican since 1995 and always voted straight ticket Republican with the exception of 2016 when I refused to vote for Trump only.

  276. NYCmike says:

    “There’s no way to compare 2008 and 2012 to 2016.”

    -I was speaking about the 2 people you mentioned, not the political landscape.

    And as for “In 2008, no Republican was going to win. “, that is ridiculous, unless you include “In 2008, no Republican ***who was going to run a conventional political campaign*** was going to win.”.

    That I agree with.

  277. CG says:

    McCain did not run a conventional campaign in 2008. That might have been a huge one of his problems.

    A conventional Republican campaign might have been more effective in raising doubts about Obama’s qualifications for the job.

  278. Bitterlaw says:

    The British and American investigations into the Titanic disaster had political motivations. The Brits wanted to whitewash the entire disaster as an unfortunate tragedy. The Americans wanted to make the British look bad.

  279. jason says:

    I wish Jeb had won. But I also wish Rubio, Kasich, Romney, Cruz, Walker or the others had won over Trump.”

    Wow, this could be Amoral Scumbag’s biggest lie of the year, and with such strong competition too.

    Amoral Scumbag trashed every candidate not named Jeb just like he trashed Trump today. No MSM lie or sordid story on any of those candidates was too over the top or too low for Amoral Scumbag to regurgitate here.

    Pathological liar. Had any of those candidates been the nominee, Amoral Scumbag would have been here trashing him all the way to the GE just like he did with Romney.

  280. CG says:

    The Titanic was a “Deep State” Canadian conspiracy to attempt win what would eventually become a Grammy Award for one of its singers decades in the future.

  281. CG says:

    I disagree that Robbie would have opposed any other Republican nominee. Through the years, I have surmised he gets overly emotional and rash at times when it comes to the day to day political news over campaigns or at other times, but I do not doubt he is an actual Republican.

  282. jason says:

    I do believe Corey, on the other hand, would have supported Rubio.

    He was on record as saying we all be supporting the same candidate at some point.

    He was wrong, as it turned out.

  283. CG says:

    Well, nice of you to say that now. In the past on here, you had claimed that I also would have opposed anyone not named Jeb. Thanks for clearing it up.

    Yes, I was wrong about the last part.

  284. jason says:

    I disagree that Robbie would have opposed any other Republican nominee.”

    Why?

    He trashed Romney all the way to election day. Why would it be any different?

  285. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    July 24, 2018 at 3:48 pm
    I see Wormtongue has been active. First of all if any believe that he will be depressed by a blue wave is delusional. He is rabid in his hatred of the President that he would be delighted to Nancy and Chuck running the Legislative Branch of our Government. Why, because if that happens the President, he believes, will be skewered and cooked to a crisp if that happens. And by the way, his registration is meaningless!!
    Wormtongue (Robbie) has the same pattern over and over again. He makes a huge assumption based on a some bogus poll or media outlet hostile to the President. Then of course since this is website that is based on discussion people point out that he is way off base. Wormtongue responds by not addressing the assumptions of his arguments but instead pointing out some long ago post by his critic that has nothing to do with what he posted in the first place. And on and on we go.

    – I really don’t remember how long you’ve been posting in this forum (I’ve been here since 2004), but to claim I would be delighted with Pelosi and Schumer winning is just laughable. Is lying now ok if it is used to defend your man Trump? Because that’s what you’re doing when you suggest I would be delighted if Chuck and Nancy win. I would have thought your Christian values would have argued against lying.

  286. CG says:

    I would have supported any of the other candidates in the field, even Rand Paul whom I very much dislike, over Hillary Clinton. Anyone, but Trump.

    Others here were quite open in saying they would oppose Rand Paul if he were nominated. Some others openly bragged that they would vote for Hillary Clinton over Jeb Bush if he were the nominee.

  287. jason says:

    . In the past on here, you had claimed that I also would have opposed anyone not named Jeb”

    Not quite. I was critical about you thinking Jeb was a viable candidate long after it was obvious he was not, which is different.

  288. CG says:

    Historically speaking, I have been the most ardent Romney backer in the history of HHR. I had my disagreements with Robbie over Romney, but I don’t think he “trashed” him until the election. I have no doubt he voted for Romney and wanted Romney to win.

  289. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 24, 2018 at 3:48 pm

    The 2016 election marked a major change in U.S. politics; the old status quo collapsed in both parties. We are entering new territory, and no one has an accurate political map. The one thing that can be said is there is no going back to how things were prior to 2016.

    – This is why I enjoy HHR. On the one hand, Independent SDC chided me in 281 for making assumptions.

    Then in the post I’ve copied, he goes on to make a grandiose assumption that 2016 marked a major change in US politics.

  290. Paul says:

    Regarding Robbie’s fantasy replay of a Trump block in 2015…..

    In 2015, I honestly thought a three-way split was how Trump would get elected. His devoted 30-40% of the electorate wasn’t going anywhere—even at that “early” point.

    With huge crowds and support already happening in 2015, I don’t think Trump would’ve gone away with a suggestion from Priebus. Priebus and the GOP would have been ripped apart.

  291. jason says:

    I would have voted for anyone but Rand Paul and Trump.

    But in hindsight, I was wrong about Trump not being fit for the Presidency.

    I don’t think I was wrong about Rand Paul not being fit for the Presidency.

  292. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 24, 2018 at 3:58 pm
    More “news” fed to him by his MSM masters, and he regurgitates it verbatim.

    – Nine out of ten debate coaches agree that repeating “news fed to him by his MSM masters” always wins the debate and is not just some Mark Levin style talking point that he shouts on the radio every night.

  293. jason says:

    The 2016 election marked a major change in U.S. politics; the old status quo collapsed in both parties.”

    No, only the Republican side.

    Hillary was the nominee for the Dems. You can’t get more status quo than that.

  294. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 24, 2018 at 4:03 pm
    http://www.neoneocon.com/2018/07/23/the-fisa-application-nunes-was-right-and-its-not-andrew-c-mccarthys-fbi-anymore/
    -More stories ignored by Robbie.

    – neoneocon.com

    LOL.

  295. CG says:

    Clearly, some do not know what the connotations of “neo-con” are.

  296. jason says:

    I have no doubt he voted for Romney and wanted Romney to win.”

    I have no doubt he didn’t and for sure he wanted Obama to win, he even said he would be celebrating his win here.

    And you are wrong, he trashed Romney all the way to election day.

    Nothing was too low. The horse, the Caddies, the elevator, the dog, Bain Capital, 47% blah blah blah, whatever garbage the MSM threw out he was here regurgitating.

    Amoral Scumbag.

  297. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 24, 2018 at 4:08 pm
    I wish Jeb had won. But I also wish Rubio, Kasich, Romney, Cruz, Walker or the others had won over Trump.”
    Wow, this could be Amoral Scumbag’s biggest lie of the year, and with such strong competition too.
    Amoral Scumbag trashed every candidate not named Jeb just like he trashed Trump today. No MSM lie or sordid story on any of those candidates was too over the top or too low for Amoral Scumbag to regurgitate here.
    Pathological liar. Had any of those candidates been the nominee, Amoral Scumbag would have been here trashing him all the way to the GE just like he did with Romney.

    – Wow. Jason fraud is lying again. I’m shocked. I repeatedly said I would vote for those candidates, especially if it meant they stopped Trump.

    What cry babies like Jason fraud and others can’t accept is that some of us our willing to criticize our own side when they aren’t performing well.

    If fans criticize the coach of their team for making this mistake or that mistake, does that suddenly mean they are no longer fans?

    I know several here are Eagles fans. When you criticized previous coaches or coordinators, did that mean you hated the Eagles and wanted them to lose?

  298. Wobbles says:

    Wormtongue?

    I resemble that comment.

  299. CG says:

    If there were posts of Robbie talking about horses or car elevators or Seamus, I imagine they would have been posted on here.

    In an emotional moment, he said that he would be here on Election Night to say “I told you so” or something. I do not believe he made reference to “celebration.” Well before the election, he retracted what he said and said he was wrong to say it.

  300. Paul says:

    If we could have simply eliminated any Clintons, Bushes or Trumps from running in 2016, our world would be a bit brighter.

  301. CG says:

    “When you criticized previous coaches or coordinators, did that mean you hated the Eagles and wanted them to lose?”

    In many cases they did, in order to get better draft picks.

  302. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag lies so much he doesn’t even remember his own lies.

    Wormtongue is good.

  303. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 24, 2018 at 4:11 pm
    I do believe Corey, on the other hand, would have supported Rubio.
    He was on record as saying we all be supporting the same candidate at some point.
    He was wrong, as it turned out.

    – Go back through the archives. I repeatedly said I would vote for Rubio if he was the nominee, fraud.

    It was Author who said he wouldn’t vote for Jeb if he was the nominee, but I never held him to that because I knew it was said in frustration.

    Go through the thousands of posts in 2016. they’ll show I said I would vote for any of the nominees (not Rand of course). I was willing to point out there weaknesses just as you were about Jeb, but I said I’d vote for them.

  304. jason says:

    If there were posts of Robbie talking about horses or car elevators or Seamus, I imagine they would have been posted on here.”

    They were.

    Nothing was ever too low for Amoral Scumbag.

  305. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 24, 2018 at 4:12 pm
    I disagree that Robbie would have opposed any other Republican nominee.”
    Why?
    He trashed Romney all the way to election day. Why would it be any different?

    – Romney, by his own admission, ran a bad campaign. I pointed that out in real time, but I still gladly voted for him. He would have made a really good president. I hope he considers challenging Trump in 2020.

  306. CG says:

    Don’t even argue with them anymore about it Robbie. They are only saying it because they know you will feel the need to respond. It’s a pretty weak argument by the Trump apologists.

  307. jason says:

    Hey Amoral Scumbag, why should anyone believe ANYTHING you ever said here, given your track record.

    You would never have voted for Romney. Or Rubio.

    Despicable liar.

  308. CG says:

    I welcome anyone to find and link to the posts from 2015/2016 when Robbie says any of those things.

  309. jason says:

    Romney, by his own admission, ran a bad campaign. ”

    So that is the reason you wanted Obama to win?

    Okayyy….

  310. jason says:

    I welcome anyone to find and link to the posts from 2015/2016 when Robbie says any of those things.”

    Look it up yourself.

    I am sure there are hundreds of posts of Amoral Scumbag trashing Romney all the way to election day.

  311. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 24, 2018 at 4:23 pm
    I have no doubt he voted for Romney and wanted Romney to win.”
    I have no doubt he didn’t and for sure he wanted Obama to win, he even said he would be celebrating his win here.
    And you are wrong, he trashed Romney all the way to election day.

    – And I have no doubt that you are the lying fraud I have always known you to be.

    I voted for Romney in 2012 because I voted straight party Republican just as I had in every election starting in 1996, you lying Trump ball licker.

    Romney ran a bad campaign. I’m sorry your were unwilling to hear that at the time, but you always have been a cranky little baby would can’t stand hearing opinions that don’t match your own.

  312. CG says:

    Romney ran an imperfect campaign, but by no means a bad one. He was up against some pretty historic odds in defeating an incumbent. The storm didn’t help either of course, nor did actual “amoral scumbag” Chris Christie.

  313. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “The 2016 election marked a major change in U.S. politics; the old status quo collapsed in both parties.”

    No, only the Republican side.

    Hillary was the nominee for the Dems. You can’t get more status quo than that.”

    Hillary barely got the nomination, with the help of the super delegates Sanders took on the party, and his supporters are now completing the process of taking it over. Status quo would have been a Hillary coronation at the convention.

  314. CG says:

    I’ve been following this site from 2004. I know the sorts of things that Robbie said about the Romney campaign that I disagreed with. I do not remember anything being said by him regarding Seamus or a car elevator of “being too rich”, etc.

    Tina was the person who was most likely to say those sort of things.

  315. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    July 24, 2018 at 4:24 pm
    Wormtongue?
    I resemble that comment.

    – No, Jason fraud. You resemble a lying fraud who hated Trump every day of the campaign, refused to vote for him and then left the party over him only to spend the vast majority of your time defending almost everything he does.

  316. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 24, 2018 at 4:27 pm
    Amoral Scumbag lies so much he doesn’t even remember his own lies.
    Wormtongue is good.

    – I remember I said I would vote for Rubio and many of the others, especially if that meant they have stopped Trump.

  317. DW says:

    These may well be the two most important polls of this cycle:

    Siena Research:

    NY_11 – June 3, 2018

    Republican Primary:

    Dan Donovan (R-Inc) 37%
    Michael Grimm (ex-con) 47%

    Actual results:

    Dan Donovan (R-Inc) 63.5%
    Michael Grimm (ex-con) 35.9%

    NY_24

    Democrat Primary:

    Juanita Perez Williams 45%
    Dana Balter 32%

    Actual results:

    Juanita Perez Williams 37.2%
    Dana Balter 62.4%

    Just a tad bit off…but Siena warned us…polling this cycle may not be close to actual results.

  318. Cash Cow TM says:

    News in Numbers (Governing.com)

    More than 300,000
    MAY 18, 2018
    Cases of gonorrhea, chlamydia and syphilis in California last year, which is a 45 percent increase since 2013 and the highest number since at least 1990.
    Source: Kaiser Health News
    ______________________

    $8,700
    JULY 22, 2018
    Monthly pension for the now-ex-sheriff’s deputy who failed to enter a Parkland, Fla., high school during the February mass shooting that left 17 dead. There have been calls to revoke his retirement benefits, but the governor says state law restricts him from doing that.
    Source: The Tampa Bay Times
    _______________
    $1
    JUNE 6, 2018
    Amount the state of New York sold a film studio it paid $15 million to build. The project was supposed to create hundreds of jobs, but it was rarely used and got wrapped up in legal battles.
    Source: The New York Times
    ______________
    $75,150
    JUNE 18, 2018
    What people in Hawaii need to earn to afford a two-bedroom apartment at fair market prices without spending more than 30 percent of their income on rent. That so-called housing wage is more than any other state’s.
    Source: the Honolulu Civil Beat
    ________________
    4.9%
    JUNE 22, 2018
    Estimated revenue growth for states from fiscal 2017 to fiscal 2018, which is the most since 2015.
    Source: Governing
    ______________
    8,889
    JUNE 28, 2018
    Ballots thrown out in Maine’s primary earlier this month because they were filled out incorrectly. It was the first time ranked-choice voting, which some worry confuses voters, was used for a statewide election in the U.S.
    Source: Stateline
    __________________

  319. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 24, 2018 at 4:30 pm
    Hey Amoral Scumbag, why should anyone believe ANYTHING you ever said here, given your track record.
    You would never have voted for Romney. Or Rubio.
    Despicable liar.

    – Sadly for the lying fraud, I did vote for Romney and I repeatedly said I would vote for Rubio. In fact, I voted for Rubio in the Kentucky primary held in March 2016.

    Choke on it, fraud.

    Robbie says:
    March 5, 2016 at 2:09 pm
    Just voted in the Kentucky caucus. Went with Rubio.
    Suck it, Trumpers.

  320. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 24, 2018 at 4:31 pm
    Romney, by his own admission, ran a bad campaign. ”
    So that is the reason you wanted Obama to win?
    Okayyy….

    – Poor widdle baby. Someone needs to change your diaper because you’re full of it.

  321. CG says:

    I thought at that point you were going to vote for Cruz, for strategic anti-Trump purposes.

  322. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    July 24, 2018 at 4:34 pm
    I’ve been following this site from 2004. I know the sorts of things that Robbie said about the Romney campaign that I disagreed with. I do not remember anything being said by him regarding Seamus or a car elevator of “being too rich”, etc.

    – I never mentioned the poor dog, but I did give Romney plenty of grief about the car elevator.

  323. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    July 24, 2018 at 4:45 pm
    I thought at that point you were going to vote for Cruz, for strategic anti-Trump purposes.

    – That was my thought going to the polls, but I just couldn’t pull the trigger for Cruz.

    We had a ridiculous straw poll in March so Paul could appear on the ballot then for president and later for Senate.

  324. CG says:

    Well, the car elevator was built because he was trying to make life easier for his wife when she was suffering from M.S.

    I am sure you realize that in retrospect.

  325. CG says:

    Frankly, you should have voted for Cruz strategically in KY, just like NYCMike, should have voted for Kasich.

  326. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    July 24, 2018 at 4:48 pm
    Well, the car elevator was built because he was trying to make life easier for his wife when she was suffering from M.S.
    I am sure you realize that in retrospect.

    – Sure. There’s plenty I said in that campaign that I regret now.

    I still believe Romney didn’t run a very good campaign, but even I know the stuff about the car elevator was over the top.

  327. CG says:

    And just like Mr. Vito should have voted for Rubio in the FL Primary instead of Bernie Sanders.

  328. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    July 24, 2018 at 4:49 pm
    Frankly, you should have voted for Cruz strategically in KY, just like NYCMike, should have voted for Kasich.

    – Wouldn’t have mattered. Trump won by 7 or 8 points.

  329. lisab says:

    Since Amoral Scumbag is usually wrong, things are looking good for the GOP in the House.

    I remember he also gave up on the Senate in 2016.
    ——————-

    he still hasn’t given up on the white house, hillary still has a path

  330. CG says:

    One of the highlights from the 2016 primary is lisab informing us that Rubio, Kasich, and Cruz were all gay.

  331. Blobbie says:

    Robbie say’s:

    and didn’t have a video tape talking about grabbing p@ssy

    — I promise I have never grabbed a p@ssy!

  332. jason says:

    One thing that bodes well for Trump is that on this board there is not one person who was pro-Trump that has turned against him.

    Several Never Trumpers or others who refused to support him have declared the primary season and the election over and now support him where they see fit.

    The two Jebots still hate him and still pine for Jeb.

    Yes, we are not representative of the general electorate, but there is a a pretty good microcosm here of Republicans, conservatives, libertarians and independents.

    I think the fact Trump has not lost any support here probably is reflected by the fact his poll numbers show his base has held pretty well.

    I made this point during the primaries, ridiculed by the Jebots, that the fact Jeb had no other support on this board was a bad sign for his candidacy. Yes, the “true conservatives” would never support him, but the fact NONE of mainstream Rs here picked him in my view showed he had little support within the party. And I was right.

  333. jason says:

    Just voted in the Kentucky caucus. Went with Rubio.”

    Zzzzzzz…..

    Nobody believes anything an Amoral Scumbag says.

  334. CG says:

    Former Congressman and talk radio host Joe Walsh, a one-time huge Trump fan, has turned against him over Russia and joined the ranks of the NeverTrumpers.

    As for HHR, it should be noted that a lot of people who used to post here and who were opposed to Trump, no longer do. Some are off doing their own thing, probably outside of online political discussions, and a couple others are basically Democrats now.

  335. jason says:

    And just like Mr. Vito should have voted for Rubio in the FL Primary instead of Bernie Sanders.”

    I voted for Kasich in the PA primary.

    I think I got skewered because I supposedly I should have voted for Cruz.

    Honestly, it was a bridge too far.

  336. CG says:

    The strategic vote was to vote for the person who had the best possibility of denying delegates from Trump.

  337. jason says:

    As for HHR, it should be noted that a lot of people who used to post here and who were opposed to Trump, no longer do”

    Not my point. I didn’t say all the Trump haters now support him, I said none of his supporters have turned against him.

    And SOME who opposed him now support him where possible.

    So his “net” support, at HHR, is positive.

    There are plenty of Trump supporters that no longer post here too.

  338. jason says:

    The strategic vote was to vote for the person who had the best possibility of denying delegates from Trump.”

    I understand. Cruz was a bridge too far.

    I would have voted for him in the GE however, 5 martinis before and 5 martinis after.

  339. CG says:

    What is left here is basically a pro-Trump fest. Of course, it’s going to “look good” for him here now in terms of “support.” Some people here are in various stages of Trump apologism, so sometimes you may disagree mildly about tariffs, but most people here who were or are Republicans but do not like Trump, are not even going to bother here at this point. Robbie and I expect to be called “trolls” and whatever else you all throw out there.

    The number of people who actually post here as compared to July 2013 is probably cut by half.

  340. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 24, 2018 at 5:34 pm
    Just voted in the Kentucky caucus. Went with Rubio.”
    Zzzzzzz…..
    Nobody believes anything an Amoral Scumbag says.

    – Whiny little baby throws hissy fit when proven wrong.

  341. CG says:

    If there was a different Republican President, they would have a fanclub here too. Maybe some different people, maybe some of the same. If Jeb Bush or whomever were President and cutting taxes and regulations and nominating conservatives to the Supreme Court, as he of course would have, maybe he would have won over some converts.

    NYC and Tina and lisab would almost certainly be very opposed to anybody other than Trump (except perhaps Cruz or Paul for NYC)

  342. Robbie says:

    Funny Jason fraud thinks it’s good no one in this forum has turned against Trump. As if this forum is representative of anything.

  343. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    July 24, 2018 at 5:46 pm
    If there was a different Republican President, they would have a fanclub here too. Maybe some different people, maybe some of the same. If Jeb Bush or whomever were President and cutting taxes and regulations and nominating conservatives to the Supreme Court, as he of course would have, maybe he would have won over some converts.

    – Yep. Many of those who are “always Trumpers” today would have been “always Jebbers” or “always Rubioers”. Party affiliation has become paramount. Policies and ideas? Passé.

  344. CG says:

    It’s been well established that those of the political variety who pledge loyalty to Trump wind up sticking with him all the way up to a Fifth Avenue.

    We saw it here with Russia this past week. Yes, his supporter here are all in. Congrats.

  345. jason says:

    Joe Walsh is not representative.

    I think Trump has gained support within the party.

    Two reasons.

    Many like a lot of the things he has done that I like…conservative judges, tax cuts, energy independence, rebuilding the military, global warming policy, deregulation.

    And many are outraged like I am about the dishonest, biased, Pravda like group think MSM that treats him completely different than they did Obama. Obama lied non-stop for 8 years, where did the MSM ever call him a “liar”. Obama was humiliated by dictators and scumbags while apologizing for America for years, when did the MSM call him a traitor?

    I think the MSM has actually galvanized more support for Trump than if they had covered him fairly, although obviously they have succeeded in dividing the country and exacerbating the differences.

  346. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Funny Jason fraud thinks it’s good no one in this forum has turned against Trump. As if this forum is representative of anything.”

    Notice you and your twin CG seem to spend a lot of time posting on a forum you say: “As if this forum is representative of anything.” Nobody else on the forum thinks you have any credibility, yet you troll away; talking to yourselves Why waste the time?

  347. jason says:

    “As if this forum is representative of anything.”

    Exactly what you said when I said this forum was representative that Jeb had very little support in party.

  348. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    355. Even a lot of my leftist friends like the fact that Trump is disrupting the old order of things. Trump has managed to unit 90% of the Republicans around him. He is getting things done that are changing the direction of the country; despite being a wild man.

  349. CG says:

    I don’t disagree that he has gained support within the party, but I don’t think that is a good thing. People can disagree. It also does not mean anything like he is “cruising to reelection” or a “red wave is a comin'” etc.

    (I am also someone who says that Democrats have tremendous political problems and issues of their own right now)

    And since he took over the party so unexpectedly and so rapidly, it is also possible that one day it might fall away from him in the exact same fashion.

  350. Phil says:

    The MSM has indeed galvanized support of Republicans tor Trump. Their blatant bias has been so over the top that real Republicans can’t help but rally to him.

    It’s not complicated.

  351. CG says:

    I’ve always been a “real Republican” and I’m not rallying to him. I will oppose what he represents both to America and to the Republican Party.

    This division in the party will just have to be accepted. Pendulums swing.

  352. jason says:

    Funny Jason fraud thinks it’s good no one in this forum has turned against Trump.”

    So where did I say that, pathological liar?

    My exact quote:

    “One thing that bodes well for Trump is that on this board there is not one person who was pro-Trump that has turned against him.”

    I personally could care less if anyone here “turns” against Trump.

    I just made the point nobody has.

    GFY

  353. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 24, 2018 at 5:53 pm
    “Funny Jason fraud thinks it’s good no one in this forum has turned against Trump. As if this forum is representative of anything.”
    Notice you and your twin CG seem to spend a lot of time posting on a forum you say: “As if this forum is representative of anything.” Nobody else on the forum thinks you have any credibility, yet you troll away; talking to yourselves Why waste the time?

    – I post here because I choose to do so. And I assume that’s why you do as well. That doesn’t mean anything about this forum is representative of anything as Jason fraud laughably tried to suggest.

  354. Waingro says:

    Trende being a bit bold here.

    Sean T at RCP
    ?Verified account @SeanTrende
    23m23 minutes ago

    I think we’re probably back to considering Democrats no worse than 50-50 to take the Senate.
    33 replies 39 retweets 96 likes
    Sean T at RCP
    ?Verified account @SeanTrende
    7m7 minutes ago

    I don’t know why people are so shocked by this. As of right now, Rs have trailed in almost every poll in NV, AZ and TN. Asterisk TN if you want (I think you should). That means Rs have to win one or two of the red state Ds.
    11 replies 2 retweets 19 likes

  355. CG says:

    Technically, there were a few weeks or a couple months or whatever that Robbie was on board or trying to be with Trump (and attacked me for not being) and then he wised up and turned against him.

    I’m the only SOB who has opposed him from Day 1 without waivering one bit (or becoming a Democrat.)

  356. Chicon says:

    I think Jason’s right – Trump hasn’t lost many of his original supporters, and I think he’s gained supporters given the media’s irrational crusade against him. I am in group two, and I think I have company.

  357. CG says:

    In a few days, I will begin my traditional “Race of the Day” feature, looking at every race for Governor and U.S. Senate in detail with predictions, one day at a time, and then linking the piece from my blog here. I hope it generates some discussion as to all the races.

    Then, when that is done, and I revise the Gubernatorial and Senate predictions as necessary, I will once again attempt predict all 435 House races. Lately, I’ve been getting like 98% of them correct.

  358. Robbie says:

    Has Trump gained support in the Republican Party because he is winning over voters?

    Or is his support in the party rising because the party has gotten smaller over the last two years?

    (((Harry Enten)))
    @ForecasterEnten

    Based on what I’ve seen, changes in party id could be responsible for whether Trump is record breaking strong with GOPers or just strong. We’re talking differences between say an 80% and 90% approval rating.

  359. jason says:

    And since he took over the party so unexpectedly and so rapidly,”

    Exactly, but you have it twisted around.

    Trump is a symptom of what happened to the party, not the cause.

    That is why I left the party.

    Amoral Scumbag repeatedly lies about my position, that I left the party because of Trump.

    I didn’t. I left the party because I no longer identify it with the ideals that attracted me to it.

  360. CG says:

    But yet you buy on to Trump’s Cult of Personality. You are an odd case.

    Anyway, goodnight people.

  361. Robbie says:

    (((Harry Enten)))
    @ForecasterEnten

    If you were to model out (using data collected by James Campbell through 1984-2008 and then by me from 2010-2016), the Cook ratings at this point suggest like a 40 seat gain +/-20 seats. Obviously not saying that’ll happen, but it’s another indicator.

  362. jason says:

    I’m the only SOB who has opposed him from Day 1 without waivering one bit”

    I wouldn’t be proud of being that stupid.

  363. jason says:

    But yet you buy on to Trump’s Cult of Personality.”

    I do?

    Can I know what that means before I agree or disagree?

  364. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    July 24, 2018 at 6:02 pm
    I think Jason’s right – Trump hasn’t lost many of his original supporters, and I think he’s gained supporters given the media’s irrational crusade against him. I am in group two, and I think I have company.

    – And I would argue there is a reasonably sized group of Republicans who say they support him, mostly because the media doesn’t like him, but who are growing weary of the daily nonsense and would prefer someone else in 2020.

  365. lisab says:

    i think the scotus nomination hearings will be a big factor in the elections

    if the dems cannot stop it, the antifa types will be very upset

  366. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    July 24, 2018 at 6:01 pm
    Technically, there were a few weeks or a couple months or whatever that Robbie was on board or trying to be with Trump (and attacked me for not being) and then he wised up and turned against him.
    I’m the only SOB who has opposed him from Day 1 without waivering one bit (or becoming a Democrat.)

    – After he won, I tried to give him a second chance. I was willing to let what happened in the campaign be forgotten, but his behavior over the first six or seven weeks of his presidency, culminating in his ridiculous wiretap tweet, was my breaking point.

  367. NYCmike says:

    “Former Congressman and talk radio host Joe Walsh, a one-time huge Trump fan, has turned against him over Russia and joined the ranks of the NeverTrumpers.”

    -Just like Mark Levin was NOT a fan of Trump in the primaries, I’ll await Joe Walsh speaking in September and October about voting for Republicans in November, despite some issues he may currently have with Trump.

  368. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag hardest hit:

    “July 24 (UPI) — More Americans now approve of the job President Donald Trump is doing than at any other period of his presidency, new poll research showed Tuesday.

    The Gallup Poll showed Trump’s approval rating at 42 percent for the sixth quarter of his administration. The quarter ran from April 20 through July 19.

    His latest rating is an improvement over the 39.1 percent he saw in the fifth quarter.

    The sixth quarter included a personal high of 45 percent during the week of his historic June 12 summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong Un.

    The approval rating after his meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin, where he publicly doubted U.S. intelligence accounts of Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election, appeared unaffected.”

  369. jason says:

    I guess we can cross Gallup off Amoral Scumbag’s list of “approved pollsters”.

  370. Robbie says:

    I’d like to see a credible New Hampshire poll of Republicans and Independents who plan to vote in the Republican 2020 primary testing these scenarios:

    Trump vs. Romney

    Trump vs. Kasich

    Trump vs. Haley

    The percentage vote they receive would be a good marker about where Trump stands in the party and what level of the party is willing to consider someone else.

    Do a national poll as well.

  371. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 24, 2018 at 6:18 pm
    I guess we can cross Gallup off Amoral Scumbag’s list of “approved pollsters”.

    – Wow 42%. Get the band to play “Happy days are here again”!

    Only a Trump University math graduate would think 42% is good.

  372. NYCmike says:

    “NYC and Tina and lisab would almost certainly be very opposed to anybody other than Trump (except perhaps Cruz or Paul for NYC)”

    -What doe the words “very opposed” mean?

    The first job would have been to defeat Hillary. If any other Republican could have done what Trump did, they would have my enduring respect and gratitude.

    After that, their actions as President would determine my support or opposition. If they copied 75% of what Trump has done, that would have been a winner. Only the tariff situation is a troubling one, but which is still developing.

  373. jason says:

    mostly because the media doesn’t like him,”

    LOL

    Amoral Scumbag calls the MSM’s unprecedented hate fest, partisan, dishonest, fake, 24/7 attacks on Trump “not liking him”.

    I love this place.

  374. NYCmike says:

    “Only a Trump University math graduate would think 42% is good.”

    -What were Trump’s national poll levels the day of the election? For comparison’s sake…..

  375. Robbie says:

    Time to throw RonJon out of the party, right?

    Alex Bolton
    @alexanderbolton

    Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) tells @burgessev and me outside GOP lunch that $12 billion in trade assistance to farmers from Trump administration “this is becoming more and more like a Soviet-type of economy here” with “commissars” sprinkling around benefits.

  376. jason says:

    Only a Trump University math graduate would think 42% is good.”

    Ahhh, the goal posts have moved.

    I show a poll that show Trump AT HIS HIGHEST POINT IN HIS PRESIDENCY and that the fake Russian “treason” story had zero effect on his polling and Amoral Scumbag switches to “whether that is good”.

    I love this place.

  377. NYCmike says:

    Why would you throw Ron Johnson out of the party for making an honest and true statement?

    Congress should not appropriate that money.

  378. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 24, 2018 at 6:23 pm
    “Only a Trump University math graduate would think 42% is good.”
    -What were Trump’s national poll levels the day of the election? For comparison’s sake….

    – In which states is Hillary on the ballot this year?

    What was Obama’s RCP approval on election day 2010? 45%.

    What was Obama’s RCP approval on election day 2014? 42%.

  379. lisab says:

    trump vs haley or kasich in nh?

    trump wins by a landslide

  380. jason says:

    I’d like to see a credible New Hampshire poll of Republicans and Independents who plan to vote in the Republican 2020 primary testing these scenarios:

    Trump vs. Romney

    Trump vs. Kasich

    Trump vs. Haley”

    I bet Trump would crush all of them.

  381. lisab says:

    Jeff Sessions Laughs As Students Chant ‘Lock Her Up’ During Speech | NBC News

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZptvtvMO4-Q

  382. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    July 24, 2018 at 6:27 pm
    trump vs haley or kasich in nh?
    trump wins by a landslide

    – Trump wins by a large margin, but the support Romney, Kasich, and Haley receive would show how much a of a base a potential challenger to Trump would start out with and whether a credible challenge can be made.

    If one of those candidate started around 35% to 40%, it show that a real challenge to Trump is possible.

  383. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    You raised the issue about Trump’s 42% being a bad thing. It may be, it may be not.

    What did the polling data say on November 8, 2016? The same issues with getting correct numbers may still be applicable.

    Or not.

    Are you scared that you may be incorrect in your assessment of Trump and his affect on Congressional Republicans, AGAIN?

  384. NYCmike says:

    “What was Obama’s RCP approval on election day 2010? 45%.

    What was Obama’s RCP approval on election day 2014? 42%.”

    -The media did not label Obama a “Hitler”-type, as they do to all Republican Presidents. Trump is vilified 24/7. Many people remain silent in that wake, and will simply wait for election day to vote.

    That is part of my thinking.

    We shall see if it is correct come November.

  385. NYCmike says:

    “If one of those candidate started around 35% to 40%, it show that a real challenge to Trump is possible.”

    -It would be great if those candidates would take the plunge, as many Democrats would probably donate $$$ to their cause, thereby wasting that money.

  386. NYCmike says:

    Good video of Sessions.

    I still have a feeling he is doing the right thing behind the scenes.

  387. NYCmike says:

    “I’d like to see a credible New Hampshire poll…”

    -Robbie will surely post that poll if it shows Trump with 75% or more……..correct?

  388. Todd McCain says:

    The polling has swung back to the Dems; no doubt but We have a long time to go kids!

  389. Tina says:

    Muh trade war dominates today.

    Last week was muh Russia.

  390. Cash Cow TM says:

    Trump is a vile and reprehensible fellow on a personal level and has many flaws that should DQ anyone who is running for any political office (inarticulate as an amphetanmined bull in a china shop, checkered past, vacillating views on various key issues, bullying and in-your-face persona, addicted to tweeting controversial statements, etc., etc. etc.).

    Prior to election of 2016, he had NO elective experience for anything from dog catcher on up. He comes from a world that has no clue about the workings of government, art of compromise, how to get Congress on board with his ‘agenda’, etc.

    He has an extremely limited knowledge of the world geopolitical scene has no clue of how he is his own worst enemy nor how to correct that and has no self discipline to correct it, no clue of how to build a fully functioning executive staff (as evident by the continued and unprecedented turmoil within his own executive branch).

    He holds a philosophy of life where the rule of thumb is to bulldoze anyone who is in opposition to him and that has carried over into the White House. He does not believe in crafting win-win situations.

    He has neither the ability or will to unite, and instead fuels the fire of national divisions.
    ******************
    I said on election night that it was going to be a “STORMY” (pardon the pun, Stormy Daniels) 4 years and so far have been proven correct.

    I give Trump credit for his SCOTUS nomination and getting that through. And for press secretary Susan Huckabee Sanders), and for pushing back against a hostile and biased press.

    I give Trump credit for attempting to change the wrong headed and anti-common sense liberal agenda (like man-made global warming regulation nonsense) being fostered by the federal government regulatory agencies and pushed by Obama and his ilk. And many of the economic indicators have improved significantly since Trump was elected–and I do not think they would have improved if Hillary had been elected.

    Also, I think Trump is looked upon by others as being against the ridiculous and previously fostered idea that the U.S. needs to accommodate the rest of the world.

    Trump’s biggest asset is that he was not Hillary Clinton (and her criminal enterprise…). If the 2016 election was only a yes or no for Hillary–she would have lost. If it was only a yes or no for Trump, Trump would have also lost. Trump benefited by an unprecedentedly high percent of non-city voters revolting against a continuation of the liberal agenda in the U.S. they saw in Hillary presidency.

    I will never hold Trump in high regard as a person. I doubt I will ever rank Trump high up in presidential rankings. He has too many negative qualities ingrained in his being that will prevent him from being one of the top 1/2 presidents in effectiveness and accomplishments.

    Just as liberal/socialist Obama was a lightning rod and rallying point for conservatives/independents, goofy Trump will be the same thing for liberals/independents including the 2018 election.

  391. lisab says:

    “Trump wins by a large margin, but the support Romney … receive …”

    i did not mention romney.

    romney has hurt himself over the 2016 election, but … he might get 20% in nh +- 10%

    the other two would get almost no support

  392. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Trump,Admin.mbegins mechanism to revoke the security clearances for the coup plotters.

    Never trump to defend coup plotters, like they defend Hillary and pedos.

  393. NYCmike says:

    Disagree with these statements:

    “He comes from a world that has no clue about the workings of government, art of compromise, how to get Congress on board with his ‘agenda’, etc.”

    “He does not believe in crafting win-win situations.”

    Disagree with this. Obama’s POLICIES was the lightning rod, not the personality, as it is with liberals dealing with Trump.

    “Just as liberal/socialist Obama was a lightning rod and rallying point for conservatives/independents….”

    Agree with most of the rest, but I think we have a different opinion on how government should be thought of.

  394. NYCmike says:

    “I give Trump credit for his SCOTUS nomination and getting that through. And for press secretary Susan Huckabee Sanders), and for pushing back against a hostile and biased press.”

    -Sanders is wonderful!

  395. lisab says:

    #401

    however, i am assuming there is a race among the dems.

    if the dems have one dominant candidate, people could cross over and vote against trump in the primary as undeclared people taking a gop ballot

    i would like to think romney would get 20%, but i think it would be more like 10%, just the never trumper vote

  396. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    July 24, 2018 at 7:10 pm
    “Trump wins by a large margin, but the support Romney … receive …”
    i did not mention romney.
    romney has hurt himself over the 2016 election, but … he might get 20% in nh +- 10%
    the other two would get almost no support

    – Keep telling yourself that.

    It will be as accurate as your claim Rubio, Cruz, and Kasich were all gay.

    I seem to remember you tried smear with that charge as well.

    By the way, did Trump win that surefire court case claiming it was improper for the GAO to give away Trump’s transition emails?

  397. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 24, 2018 at 7:14 pm
    “I give Trump credit for his SCOTUS nomination and getting that through. And for press secretary Susan Huckabee Sanders), and for pushing back against a hostile and biased press.”
    -Sanders is wonderful!

    – Sanders will go down as the worst press secretary ever. Just like Spicy, she’ll struggle to find work that isn’t provided by her father, Governor Cornpone.

  398. lisab says:

    It will be as accurate as your claim Rubio, Cruz, and Kasich were all gay
    ———————————-

    kasich and cruz are gay?

  399. jason says:

    “He does not believe in crafting win-win situations.”

    Yep, that is probably his biggest failure.

  400. jason says:

    kasich and cruz are gay?”

    Rubio is gay?

  401. lisab says:

    as one of the few people on hhr who have lived in nh, i think romney losing by a huge margin to trump in nh in 2020’s primaries is pretty accurate

    but maybe he could get to 30%

  402. lisab says:

    “Rubio is gay?”

    he went to a foam party and allegedly got caught by cops, while younger and unmarried, in a park at night with another man …

    but it is miami and it was the nineties, so you cannot hold that against him

  403. Tina says:

    Fake Indian wants a 50 percent tax rate.

  404. Tina says:

    Sanders is the best press secretary fielded by an r in a long time.

    She beats the press daily.

    Does it nicely.

    Mute 43 had the worst one in his 2nd term, but his administration was terrible because his cabinet was largely idiots.

  405. Chicon says:

    388 – and Clinton was at 48%, but lost 52 seats.

  406. Tina says:

    Trump is just playing with the media.

    Russia will help the Drats.

    Jebots triggered by this statement.

    Wp says unverifiable.

    Lol, unverifiable. They are stupid.

  407. CG says:

    “allegedly got caught by cops, while younger and unmarried, in a park at night with another man … ”

    How can this claim be backed up? Is there a link?

  408. Chicon says:

    Robbie, why is being called gay a smear in your book?

  409. CG says:

    Profiles of Rubio have said that when he was 18, the cops came across him in a park drinking beer with some buddies. (He wasn’t arrested)

    Does that make you …. GAY?

    What would we ever do without lisab?

  410. Hugh says:

    I wonder if Sean T would be stupid enough to bet on the dems taking the senate at 50/50 odds? I doubt it. Winning the TN senate seat is a pipe dream for the dems.

  411. lisab says:

    “allegedly got caught by cops, while younger and unmarried, in a park at night with another man … ”

    How can this claim be backed up? Is there a link?
    ——————————

    that is not a claim, he admits it, but he denies being in a that park at night, which was a gay hang out, was anything more than youthful exuberance. all police records were destroyed long ago.

    he is married, so i do not doubt he is at least mostly heterosexual

  412. Hugh says:

    I suspect burr has decided he is not running again. He will get stomped in a primary. What is he thinking? https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07/gop-senate-intel-chair-there-were-sound-reasons-why-judges-issued-fisa-warrants-on-carter-page/

  413. Brandon says:

    Bloodbath in Georgia.

  414. Tina says:

    The senators on the unintelligence committee are corrupt.

    I suspect it was burrs committee that leaked the fisa warrant,

    Notice Jeff sessions said that leaking is done not by the intelligence community, but by the media and members of congress.

    Notice that the head intelligence person was just arrested from that committee. Really think he took 82 pictures of the fisa warrant to send to his lady friend?

  415. Tina says:

    Kemp appears to have blown out cagle? .

  416. Chicon says:

    Which GA candidate was endorsed by Trump?

  417. Brandon says:

    Trump endorsed Kemp.

  418. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    421. “that is not a claim, he admits it, but he denies being in a that park at night, which was a gay hang out, was anything more than youthful exuberance. all police records were destroyed long ago. he is married, so i do not doubt he is at least mostly heterosexual.”

    Going out and drinking beer in a park is normal for young males. It is not a sign you are gay. The fact that gays hang out at the park means nothing; it happens commonly at parks — along with underage drinking by adolescent males.

  419. JC says:

    @realDonaldTrump
    The European Union is coming to Washington tomorrow to negotiate a deal on Trade. I have an idea for them. Both the U.S. and the E.U. drop all Tariffs, Barriers and Subsidies! That would finally be called Free Market and Fair Trade! Hope they do it, we are ready – but they won’t!

    See, this would be REAL free trade. ZERO tariffs on both sides. Trump is the only world leader who is willing to practice REAL free trade and not the farce we have now.

  420. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    412. “he went to a foam party and allegedly got caught by cops, while younger and unmarried, in a park at night with another man … but it is miami and it was the nineties, so you cannot hold that against him.”

    Oh no! Not the dreaded foam party episode.

    By the way, Rubio meet another person when he was 19, and that person was 17. It was his future wife, who had become a Dolphines cheerleader. But of course this was all a cover-up, to hide his foam party addiction and secret life.

  421. Tina says:

    We cannot have that trade deal.

    That is not fre trade.

    Jebot

  422. lisab says:

    “Going out and drinking beer in a park is normal for young males.”

    yup … could be totally just normal juvenile behavior

    i merely pointed out during the campaign that rubio has gay rumors, which is true. i am from provincetown so that would be the rule not the exception.

  423. lisab says:

    Oh no! Not the dreaded foam party episode.
    ———————-

    yup, the dreaded foam party episode

    sounds fun to me

  424. NYCmike says:

    https://medium.com/@s.g.cheah/understanding-rand-paul-part-1-c13e5f2c813

    -Figure I’ll juice up Wissing’s comment section.

  425. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie did trash every Republican not named JEB! Revisionist history is garbage.

    I hated Trump in 2015. Hated him in 2016 and voted for Kasich in the primary because Christie had dropped out. Voted for him in the GE because Hillary was worse. I still hate him but the Dems continue to suck so I will be stuck voting for him in 2020.

  426. NYCmike says:

    “– Sanders will go down as the worst press secretary ever. Just like Spicy, she’ll struggle to find work that isn’t provided by her father, Governor Cornpone.”

    -This is very amusing…..a press secretary is either memorable, or not.

    Sanders is memorable, and as a Republican, I mean that in a positive way.

    As for Sean Spicer, the parody Twitter account Sean Spicier is very funny.

  427. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw, on a daily basis, tells us how much he hates Trump.

    He does NOT say how evil slavery is on a daily basis.

    Wes, what do you think that means?!?!

  428. Bitterlaw says:

    WTF! Swimming at night with tiger sharks? Shark Week just got real.

  429. Tgca says:

    Stop with all these gay accusations. In this day and age, who cares? I knew of many straight folks that would go to gay bars …but they were usually what we called “ f*g h*gs.”

    I knew a married AA male who used to hang in the local gay neighborhood bar a few nights a week drinking beer and watching the TV there. He could not have been more straight, and his wife routinely joined him.

    Even our own Uber straight Bitter has been known to profess his liking of Woody’s in Philly, an ultra gay haunt.

  430. Bitterlaw says:

    And NYC tells us on a regular basis that he will oppose Trump over something one of these days….any day now…just a matters time….wait!…nope…not yet.

  431. Bitterlaw says:

    Ummmmm. I did not say I like Woddy’s. I said I know where it is.

    I am sure that lisab knows where some churches are located. I would not accuse her of latent Christianity.

  432. jason says:

    “llegedly got caught by cops, while younger and unmarried, in a park at night with another man …”

    OMG.

    I must be gay too… I went to parks at night and drank beer with other guys.

    Oh well, better find out late than never.

    Hmmm, actually would have preferred never.

  433. Tgca says:

    That being said, I have met dozens of married or attached straight men who dabbled with the dudes over the years. Go check out Grindr or Craigslist or any other gay chat site and you will find many straight men looking for guys on the side. These men come in all colors, shapes, sizes, ages, and classes too so you never know whether your co-worker, friend, brother, cousin, nephew, son or father is a dude who likes to dabble with other dudes whether it be frequent or infrequent.

  434. lisab says:

    i have been to notre dame

  435. jason says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    July 24, 2018 at 9:10 pm

    Robbie did trash every Republican not named JEB! Revisionist history is garbage.”

    Yep, the M.O. never changes.

  436. Tgca says:

    Bitter now denies liking or hanging at Woodys. Hmmm…and I guess he never attended a flower show either.

  437. Bitterlaw says:

    I had to go to the flower show. My wife wanted to see it.

  438. lisab says:

    That being said, I have met dozens of married or attached straight men who dabbled with the dudes over the years.
    ———————————-

    rubio has been married for years, with no side fling rumors

  439. jason says:

    And NYC tells us on a regular basis that he will oppose Trump over something one of these days…”

    Yah thinks?

    I mean, so many opportunities… even funding Chuck Schumer for decades was ok….

    Maybe a trillion dollar infrastructure boondoggle?

    Nah, Trump will only “sign” that, he won’t actually have any responsibility for its implementation.

  440. jason says:

    I had to go to the flower show. My wife wanted to see it.”

    Gayest post of the day.

  441. NYCmike says:

    “Nah, Trump will only “sign” that, he won’t actually have any responsibility for its implementation.”

    -Well, that is more evidence that Robbie is correct when he says jason is a liar…..Trump, as President, along with Congress, is to blame for that…..just like I credit a Republican Congress for the tax cut and the Senate for getting judges through.

    Radical idea, those checks and balances!

  442. Tina says:

    The Cohen tape is mad cow tax 2.0.

  443. Big Joe says:

    Kemp wins the run off easily, Trump endorsement helped bigly. Sets up a very interesting GE against Stacy Abrams.

    Trump hugger vs AA liberal in a state that bucked the trend and moved towards the Democrats in 2016.

    Big Joe

  444. jason says:

    Well, that is more evidence that Robbie is correct when he says jason is a liar…..Trump, as President, along with Congress, is to blame for that”

    Who is lying now. You blamed Congress, said Trump “only signed it”.

    GFY.

  445. Bitterlaw says:

    I heard that central PA has really gotten a lot of rain. I hope Jason does not float away.

  446. jason says:

    Flash floods everywhere. Fortunately llamas are good swimmers.

  447. jason says:

    Nah, Trump will only “sign” that, he won’t actually have any responsibility for its implementation.”

    -Well, that is more evidence that Robbie is correct when he says jason is a liar”

    This is actually a great example of a non-sequitur.

  448. jason says:

    The CNN tape is a joke.

  449. jason says:

    Surprised Amoral Scumbag isn’t here saying how “significant” the tape is, because that is what CNN is probably saying.

  450. Tina says:

    Speaking of liars.

    Clinton Groupie and rottie tie for worst liars.

    The Clinton groupie had two posts today about me where it lied.

    I was not here the day after the 2012 election, happy that Romney lost. That would be its alter ego.

  451. Paul says:

    I agree, tonight’s tape is a total bust. I’m a bit embarrassed for them.

  452. Tina says:

    Jason, trump is really going to finance or fake out a loan for $150000

    Notice the recording stop when he says “check.”

    Pay with cash, just right a check, is likely what was said.

    Moreover, nothing illegal here at all.

    A dud.

    Jebots fire another blank.,

    Trump tax tape Madcow 2.0.

  453. lisab says:

    cnn shocker: trump had sex with another playboy bunny!!!! (and this one is actually pretty)
    ——————————

    yeah … i am not sure cnn understands the american heartland

    and the weird thing is, these are the people who support lena dunham french kissing animals

  454. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Their saying the Toronto shooter was just a nice boy with mental problems. Oh wait…

    “Canadian investigators have indications that Faisal Hussain, who opened fire on restaurants and cafes in a popular Toronto neighborhood on Sunday, visited Islamic State (ISIS) websites and may have expressed support for the terrorist group, a law enforcement source told CBS News on Tuesday.
    The 29-year-old Hussain killed a 10-year-old girl and a young woman and wounded 13 others in Sunday’s attack in Toronto’s Greektown.
    Investigators are looking into whether Hussain may have lived at one time in Afghanistan and possibly Pakistan, the source told CBS News. There is no indication, however, that Hussain was directed by ISIS to carry out the attack.
    “At this stage, based on the state of the investigation, which is led by the Toronto police service, there is no connection between that individual and national security,” Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said Tuesday.
    Hussain’s family has said he suffered from psychosis and depression for years but they never imagined he would do such a thing. It was not immediately clear whether he took his own life or was killed by police during the attack Sunday night.”

    This is so much like Obama. its never a terrorist attack; always a mixed up boy. The solution; disarm the potential victims.

  455. Messy says:

    Does the censoring of the Helsinki press conference transcript be considered fake news or just lying?

    464. Show us where Canada has a version of the second amendment.

  456. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Here is a new Marist/ NPR National Poll(RV’s). The PID is D+8.

    Trump approval/ disapproval- 41/51
    Generic Congressional Ballot- 47(D)-40(R)

    http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/NPR_PBS-NewsHour_Marist-Poll_Nature-of-the-Sample-and-Tables_Pres.-Trump-Congress-and-the-Midterm-Elections_July-2018_181807241056.pdf#page=3

  457. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    RRH claims that PA CD-17 is an R+3 district. If so, then why did the sample in yesterday’s Monmouth Poll show a voting PID of D+12?

    “PA-17: Monmouth University polled PA-17 yesterday, the only district featuring an incumbent-on-incumbent matchup in 2018. The university found freshman Rep. Conor Lamb (D) up by 12% on Rep. Keith Rothfus (R), 51-39%, in the R+3, North and South Hills-based district.”

  458. DW says:

    Lets see…Georgia runoff…Kemp beat Cagle 69/31. Not exactly close. Lets see how the pollsters did on this race:

    Trafalgar Group (R) – 59/41
    Opinion Savvy – 55/37

    SurveyUSA – 40/34
    Atlanta Journal-Constipation – 44/41

    Obviously Trafalgar and Opinion savvy were short a little on the margin, a forgivable error giving the nature of the blowout. But what state was SUSA and AJC polling?

  459. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #465-Messy Moron Alert
    Gee, did Obama release a transcript of his “more flexibility” comment with the Russian President?
    Maybe Messy thinks that only GOP Presidents should walk around with a microphone 24/7. Pathetic!

  460. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #469- DW
    Spot-on. Survey USA has bizarre polling results. It recently used a PID of D+6 in an R+7 district, NC CD-9,Harris(R) v McCready(D), to show Harris behind by 7 pts.(Civitas Poll)

    Additionally, last night’s GOP turnout in GA for a July runoff was outstanding; as good as TX’ a few months back.

  461. DW says:

    Lets look at GA_06 and GA_07. In GA_06 the dem who won the run-off is an anti-gun activist, running in an R+14 district that went 62/38 last time. But both Cook and Sabato say its just Lean R.

    GA_07 is also R+14 and went 60/40 last time, and Cook and Sabato say its Likely R.

    And given the Trump endorsement of Kemp and the blowout that followed, the Trump brand still sells in the southeast, so these seats should both go to Safe R unless there is credible polling to the contrary. But I would be surprised if either Cook or Sabato make any change unless it is to move them to Tossup.

  462. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Sean Trend is probably my favorite political analyst. But his tweet storm yesterday saying that the Democrats were 50/50 to take the Senate was poorly argues; especially this tweet:

    @SeanTrende
    Follow Follow @SeanTrende
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    In Florida, the internet polling loves Scott, but the traditional polling not so much. Given that Scott’s dropped tens of millions of dollars on the race, I am skeptical. In MO, we don’t have a lot of non-partisan polling, but overall she seems to be ahead and near 50%.

    IMHO, Trend is factually incorrect about MO and Governor Scoot(R) has never been in better shape at this stage in any of his campaigns.

    Also, I live in NC on the TN border and see a lot of political commercials connected with TN politics. Bredesen(D) is all over the airwaves with milquetoast commercials. I have NOT seen one Blackburn(R) or Blackburn-support advertisement. The TN primary is next week and then the airwaves will be saturated with her commercials. She has been wise to hold her fire.commercial.

    In AZ, McSally(R) has been engaged in an ugly primary with Chemtrails Kelli and Sheriff Joe. Senema(D) has run nice biographical commercials. Let’s see what happens after the AZ primary season.

    In NV, the race between Rosen(D) and Heller(R) has been a couple of points. Rosen does not have the Hispanic support that Cortez-Maestro has two tears ago and a Hekker endorsement by The Donald could help him.

  463. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    DW
    Here is the addendum to yesterday’s Lamb/Rothfus Monmouth Poll in PA CD-17:(See above post # 467)

    Party Registration

    38% Republican
    50% Democrat

  464. Messy says:

    469. I don’t know about that. But AS YOU KNOW, the Helsinki press conference was televised live and the Trump administration ALTERED both the transcript and the video in such a way as to make the faking to be abundantly clear.

    This is what Junior states about this: “Maybe Messy thinks that only GOP Presidents should walk around with a microphone 24/7. Pathetic!”

    It was a PRESS CONFERENCE. That means that the US president WAS walking around with a microphone and it WAS publicly recorded.

    This publicly recorded video and printed transcript was altered to censor a question and answer. So Junior, please explain this. Me being a moron and all….

  465. DW says:

    473 – if that’s how they modified their sample to get what they think the turnout should be, then its a poll based on their guesswork.

  466. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    DW
    Here is the addendum to the recent Survey USA of the McCready(D)/ Harris(R) race in NC CD-9. Look at Party Registration in Question 2; D+6. Ridiculous for this district.(See above post 470)

    http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=040c3fd9-600f-468e-bdb2-6ccd513742ba&c=154&utm_source=Contacts&utm_campaign=704d9e4d83-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_02_09_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_7a6c958a22-704d9e4d83-&mc_cid=704d9e4d83&mc_eid=%5BUNIQID%5D

  467. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #475- DW
    You are being very generous to the pollster. I would like for you to check it yourself to confirm.

  468. DW says:

    sheeple, my point is the poll is garbage if they start with flawed assumptions and then weight the poll to match their flawed assumptions.

    We should not forget 2016 where the state polling was horrendous. Trafalgar Group was mocked and laughed at–until they got the last laugh.

  469. DW says:

    Any individual poll could be right, just like random guesses sometimes are right. But polling as a whole is broken. I am going to keep posting these Siena polls as a reminder of just how broken it is:

    Siena Research, 6/3/2018:

    NY_11 Republican Primary:

    Dan Donovan (R-Inc) 37%
    Michael Grimm (ex-con) 47%

    Actual results:

    Dan Donovan (R-Inc) 63.5%
    Michael Grimm (ex-con) 35.9%

    NY_24 Democrat Primary:

    Juanita Perez Williams 45%
    Dana Balter 32%

    Actual results:

    Juanita Perez Williams 37.2%
    Dana Balter 62.4%

    Siena has an A rating at 538. Not A-, a straight A

  470. SWAG Polling says:

    But polling as a whole is broken.

    Not SWAG Polling!!!!!

  471. jason says:

    Meanwhile, in Proud Obamacon’s socialist paradise…

    MEDELLÍN, Colombia — The prediction was eye-popping even for Venezuela’s collapsing economy: One million percent inflation by year’s end, according to the International Monetary Fund.

  472. ssq says:

    Michael Grimm (ex-con) 35.9%

    This man is an ex-conservative?

    Why did he change?

  473. DW says:

    “One million percent inflation by year’s end”

    I am guessing, and its only a guess, but guessing that wages didn’t go up by one-million percent?

    And yet the Marxists among us want to bring that sort of economy to the USA.

  474. DW says:

    MEDELLÍN, Colombia — The prediction was eye-popping even for Venezuela’s collapsing economy: One million percent inflation by year’s end, according to the International Monetary Fund.

    Ocasio-Cortez responds:

    “Wow that is exciting news! If I wasn’t so dedicated to run for congress to see this kind of progress here I would be tempted to just move there and be a part of it!”

  475. jason says:

    I think a lot of what Patti writes here is BS, Blago was arrested during the GWB administration, although she is probably right about Mueller and Fitzgerald. Also some of the charges were reversed on a technicality, the judge who reversed them still said the evidence against Blago was “overwhelming”.

    Be that as it may, I think loss of power, not seeing his daughters grow up and 7 years in jail is enough for Blago, I would support a commutation, not a pardon.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/op-eds/patti-blagojevich-how-our-american-dream-turned-into-an-american-nightmare

  476. jason says:

    MEDELLÍN, Colombia — The prediction was eye-popping even for Venezuela’s collapsing economy: One million percent inflation by year’s end, according to the International Monetary Fund.

    Ocasio-Cortez responds:

    “Inflation is great, and so is socialism. Everyone now will have millions more pesos!”

  477. Human Question says:

    What’s better – a Suzy Q or Twinkie?

  478. jason says:

    Me being a moron and all….”

    Messy admits to being a moron, the truth will set you free. And there is not much that can be done.

    However, she is also functionally illiterate, and THAT can be remedied.

    I doubt she will try to remedy it, however, because she is a moron.

  479. Paul says:

    So Sheeple and Jason,
    You didn’t respond to the substance of Messy’s post. Is it alright for the White House to alter BOTH the official transcript AND official video to erase a question that they don’t like?

  480. Paul says:

    This is the PRESS CONFERENCE’s official transcript AND official video. The White House have erased a key question from both of these.

    Appears like an odd thing to do since we have live coverage from all news organizations that include the question about whether Putin wanted Trump to win and if Putin had helped him. Putin’s response was “Yes, I did. Yes, I did.” The official transcript now appears that Putin is responding to whether he has helped with the investigation into cybercrimes.

  481. jason says:

    Is it alright for the White House to alter BOTH the official transcript AND official video to erase a question that they don’t like?”

    LOL

    Paul wants to make sure he is called a moron too.

    Yes, they can edit it any way they like. Since the news conference was carried live, it you want to see it its entirety I am sure its available online.

    And I am sure the Obama administration did as well when they were running their propaganda machine with the their MSM wingmen out of the WH.

  482. jason says:

    Putin’s response was “Yes, I did. Yes, I did.”

    Zzzzzzzzz….

    Putin was very clear he never “helped” Trump in any way and that the collusion charges are bogus.

    Not only at that presser but in many other interviews and statements too.

  483. jason says:

    I am sure Paul was outraged, I tell you, when this happened.

    “The State Department acknowledged Wednesday that someone in its public affairs bureau made a “deliberate” request that several minutes of tape be cut from the video of a 2013 press briefing in which a reporter asked if the administration had lied about secret talks with Iran.”

  484. T. Rump says:

    Nice blog you have here.

  485. DW says:

    From RRH: (and this is not a joke, they are really following the Pakistan election)

    Roshan Pakistan also has PTI up, with a Hung Parliament.
    PTI – 29% (78 – 97 seats range, with 88 projected)
    PML-N – 26% (65 – 81 range, with 71 projected)
    PPP – 14% (37 – 48 range, with 41 projected)

  486. jason says:

    Also let’s make clear that Putin was not in any way admitting to interfering in the US election at that conference, and that his comment that he did want Trump to win could have been just politeness.

    Trump did win, he was there with him at the presser, why would Putin not now say I wanted him to win.

    Let’s remember that Obama, under that standard, “interfered” with many elections in other countries.

    Kenya

    Investigative reporter Jerome Corsi of WorldNetDaily broke this story when he visited Kenya and was able to confirm that Obama, as a U.S. Senator, illegally used a taxpayer-financed trip to campaign for far-left presidential candidate Raila Odinga in Kenya’s 2006 elections.

    Israel

    During Israel’s 2015 elections, the Obama administration — led by Secretary of State John Kerry — illegally intervened when they attempted to defeat the reelection of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu by covertly funneling State Department grants to opposition groups. The Obama administration detested Netanyahu due to his refusal to cave into Palestinian demands, a group that even refused to recognize the existence of Israel.

    Obama’s State Department gave $350,000 to a group called the “One Voice Movement (OVM),” for supporting “peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine.” However, the State Department then used leftover funds to organize an effort against Netanyahu’s reelection. OVM contracted out a group called “V15,” which in turned hired five campaign experts from the U.S., including Obama’s field director from his last presidential campaign. As the Weekly Standard’s Jim Swift wrote, “once the infrastructure was built, it was used in an attempt to topple the government of one of America’s closest allies.”

    Macedonia

    The government watchdog group, Judicial Watch, obtained government documents that “show the U.S. government has quietly spent millions of taxpayer dollars to destabilize the democratically elected, center-right government in Macedonia by colluding with leftwing, billionaire philanthropist George Soros.” Indeed, Obama’s ambassador to Macedonia, Jeff Baily, worked to funnel millions of dollars from the State Department and USAID to groups created by Soros which were, according to JW, working to overthrow the conservative government.

    Honduras

    Shortly after Obama was elected, leftist Honduran president Manual Zelaya attempted to illegally amend the Honduran Constitution so as to allow himself to serve as President longer than one term. Incredibly, Zelaya and a mob broke into a military installation where blank ballots were stored and tried to hold a constitutional referendum without the support of the election authorities. As a result, on orders from the Honduran Supreme Court, he was forcefully removed from office as Honduran law calls for.

    Obama attacked Zelaya’s removal, falsely calling it a “coup d’état” and a WikiLeaks cable revealed that Obama backed Zelaya’s reinstatement in order to please Venezuelan dictator Hugo Chavez, who, like Fidel Castro, was an ally of Zelaya. Instead of supporting the right of Hondurans to remove their president for unconstitutional actions, Obama tried to pressure Honduras into reinstating Zelaya by freezing all non-humanitarian aid. That didn’t happen and Zelaya went into exile.”

    Egypt

    Like Libya, the Obama administration encouraged opposition to President Hosni Mubarak and intervened in elections to ensure that a radical Muslim Brotherhood leader, Mohammed Morsi, was elected president. Obama’s State Department even gave political training to MB leaders. Again, similar to Gadhafi, Mubarak was relatively secular and Egypt was becoming increasingly westernized. He was an ally of the U.S.A. and an opponent of radical jihadists.”

    …. Once Morsi appeared to win what was likely a rigged election, Obama poured in $1.5 billion in foreign aid.”

  487. Todd McCain says:

    Just listened to the Cohen tape; biggest bunch of nothing I have ever listened too…..seriously what a joke….

  488. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    After Kemp’s(R) resounding victory last night in the GA Governor’s primary GOP run off, “toupee” Cook downgrades his chances from Likely to Lean!

  489. paul says:

    Thank you, Jason Moron.
    At least you appear to now have a rudimentary understanding of the issue and attempted a response.

  490. jason says:

    The Dems might have had a chance with a moderate in GA, but they nominated a far left candidate.

  491. jason says:

    “rudimentary understanding of the issue”

    Translation: understands the issue much better than I do.

  492. jason says:

    “substance of Messy’s post”

    I nominate Messy substance as oxymoron of the day.

    Of course, oxymoron of the year would be Amoral Scumbag independent thinking.

  493. jason says:

    Just listened to the Cohen tape; biggest bunch of nothing I have ever listened too…..seriously what a joke….”

    Huge scandal.. .Trump mentioned something about “cash” but it is unintelligible and the context can’t be determined.

  494. Robbie says:

    I listened to the tape Michael Cohen released and it reminded me of Geraldo Rivera opening Al Capone’s vault. A whole lot of nothing. If that’s all Cohen has and he really has turned on Trump (I doubt he’s turned on Trump), then he’s got nothing.

    Personally, I think Michael Cohen is playing everyone for fools. If he really has something that could bring down Trump, why not release it now? The fact he hasn’t when it could help his own legal standing suggests he’s either bluffing or sending a signal to Trump.

    My guess is Cohen’s dangling this tape out there to remind Trump he can cause him pain. And the best way for Trump to make sure he doesn’t feel any pain from Cohen is to pardon him.

  495. Robbie says:

    In my mind, there is only one tape that could end Trump’s presidency the moment it’s released and that’s the much fabled “n-word” tape.

    Given the “n-word” tape didn’t appear during the Charlottesville controversy or the “s-hole countries” controversy (when it could have toppled Trump), it almost certainly doesn’t exist.

    Of course, there’s always the chance someone is holding it for an October surprise this year or in 2020.

  496. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 25, 2018 at 11:26 am

    Of course, oxymoron of the year would be Amoral Scumbag independent thinking.

    – This from someone who hated Trump every day of the campaign, refused to vote for Trump, and then left the party over Trump yet now defends almost everything Trump does.

  497. Messy says:

    488, 502, Okay, Babycakes. YOU tell me why it was okay to delete the stuff and claim it never happened.

    496. This is what is known as “whataboutism.” The countries in question have a right to complain, and we have a right to complain when it happens to us.

    If a CIA agent is caught by a foreign enemy, then, what they do to him might be deserved. We spy on them they spy on us.

  498. Paul says:

    Yes, the tape was a bit of a dud. Unless there is more, we’ll have to be content with six more years of Trump.

  499. Robbie says:

    I mentioned the possibility of “Trump fatigue” a few weeks ago. If Republicans get nuked in November and the steady stream of controversies around Trump continue, it’s quite possible Trump will begin t bleed support in 2019 as voters just get tired of the drama.

    Bill O’Reilly
    @BillOReilly

    Here’s the warning:

    There may very well come a time where “Trump fatigue” sets in. At this point, the President’s supporters are staying with him but some are being worn down. How many folks do you know who are tuning out, exhausted by the everyday political angst?

  500. jason says:

    And what does this tape have to do with Russian involvement or collusion?

    At some point Sessions really does have intervene, he only recused himself on Russia, he could certainly take the reigns on this BS.

  501. jason says:

    but some are being worn down. How many folks do you know who are tuning out, exhausted by the everyday political angst?”

    But that has been the MSM strategy from the beginning?

    Everyday a new “scandal”, real or imagined.

    These people have no shame.

  502. jason says:

    YOU tell me why it was okay to delete the stuff and claim it never happened.”

    It was edited and there is no claim it never happened.

    I think they are free to EDIT as they see fit.

    Since the complete version exists online, what is your real objection here, moron?

  503. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 25, 2018 at 12:02 pm
    And what does this tape have to do with Russian involvement or collusion?
    At some point Sessions really does have intervene, he only recused himself on Russia, he could certainly take the reigns on this BS.

    – Sean Hannity, is that you?

  504. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 25, 2018 at 12:04 pm
    but some are being worn down. How many folks do you know who are tuning out, exhausted by the everyday political angst?”
    But that has been the MSM strategy from the beginning?
    Everyday a new “scandal”, real or imagined.
    These people have no shame.

    – Did the media make up Trump’s Charlottesville comments?

    Did the media force Trump to have an affair with Karen McDougal?

    Did the media force Trump to have a one night stand with porn star Stormy Daniels?

    These are things Trump did himself. If he didn’t want them being brought into the public view, he either shouldn’t have done them or not run for president.

  505. jason says:

    and then left the party over Trump”

    Still repeating this lie over and over, huh?

    Goebbels would be proud.

    ” from someone who hated Trump every day of the campaign”

    Yep, but the campaign ended in 2016 and we are now in 2018. And Jeb is still a loser.

    “refused to vote for Trump,”

    So what? He won anyway, and now I have to judge him on a different reality and a different set of facts than the election campaign.

    You really are an Amoral Scumbag idiot.

    You voted for Rand Paul. You say you will not vote for him again. Why? Because of of circumstances that happened after he was elected.

    I didn’t vote for Trump. I will now consider voting for him in 2020. Why? Because of circumstances that happened after he was elected.

    See how it works?

    Now GFY.

  506. Redmen4ever says:

    Siena Poll – Mueller is extending the principals immunity just to be on the safe side.

  507. jason says:

    “Did the media make up Trump’s Charlottesville comments?”

    They grossly distorted them.

    Did the media force Trump to have an affair with Karen McDougal?

    Would the MSM care about any alleged affair Obama had a decade before he was President. Of course not. They didn’t even care when Clinton was having sex with an intern in the Oval Office.

    Did the media force Trump to have a one night stand with porn star Stormy Daniels?

    See above. If Trump wasn’t a Republican, these women would be called bimbos and opportunists, and wouldn’t be given the time of day. Do you think any porn star who claimed to have a one night stand with Obama would be called “adult film star”? Do you think she would have been given softball interviews on 60 minutes and CNN?

    I know you are pretty stupid, but are you really that stupid?

  508. Phil says:

    No, Robbie. The media didn’t cause any of that. You are absolutely correct.

    The fact remains, however, that nobody outside of CNN, MSNBC, and the nags on the View care. Hell, if the truth be known, they don’t even care – just more stuff they to throw against the wall. – something those outlets do on a daily basis and when you do that 24/7 it loses its shock value. People just discount it….but the lefties in the media just can’t help themselves. They just can’t. Every negative Trump story is breathlessly announced as the silver bullet that will once and for all get Trump. You can’t scream nonstop and expect people to pay attention to you.

  509. Robbie says:

    O’Reilly is on the mark. There’s too much swirling about. Trump’s best periods of polling have often occurred when he has not been in the news as much.

    Bill O’Reilly
    @BillOReilly

    If the President does not recognize the “Trump fatigue” strategy, he will surely lose re-election. Calm is often good, most Americans would like some calm.

    Nonstop chaos is always bad.

  510. Phil says:

    “Most Americans would like some calm”

    That works both ways. The left and the never Trumpers would do well to cease howling at the moon 24/7.

  511. Paul says:

    Jason,
    If Obama had sex with a porn star in his past, it would have ben huge news. Partly because it would be so shocking and out of character.

    With Trump, we barely care about his affair. We know it is part of his character. The large sums of money being moved around to hide these affairs may be problematic.

    Was the MSM easy on John Edwards when he had an affair and paid off his mistress? Glad they spared him so he could continue to be the liberal’s poster boy. Oh wait…..

  512. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 25, 2018 at 12:29 pm
    No, Robbie. The media didn’t cause any of that. You are absolutely correct.
    The fact remains, however, that nobody outside of CNN, MSNBC, and the nags on the View care. Hell, if the truth be known, they don’t even care – just more stuff they to throw against the wall. – something those outlets do on a daily basis and when you do that 24/7 it loses its shock value. People just discount it….but the lefties in the media just can’t help themselves. They just can’t. Every negative Trump story is breathlessly announced as the silver bullet that will once and for all get Trump. You can’t scream nonstop and expect people to pay attention to you.

    – If no one cares, why is Trump’s approval rating at just 43% (his best in over a year) despite having an economy that is doing as well as it has in 20 years? Maybe 5% growth in Q2. Clearly, people care about the way he’s acted and the constant swirl of drama or his approval would be higher with these economic conditions.

    Frankly, it’s really only FoxNews that is choosing not to cover these stories, but that’s also why they have earned the reputation of being state run media in the age of Trump.

    Every story that has hurt Trump over the last 18 months has been a story of Trump’s own making. If he stopped giving the press reasons to fly off the handle, he’d stop getting daily stories he doesn’t like. Take away his Twitter feed and 75% of the problems go away.

    Imagine how much calmer things would have been these last 18 months had Trump not mishandled Charlottesville, backed Roy Moore, referred to African nations as s-hole countries, or had extramarital affairs with playmates and porn stars.

  513. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 25, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    “Most Americans would like some calm”
    That works both ways. The left and the never Trumpers would do well to cease howling at the moon 24/7.

    – This is wrong. It’s the chaos Trump causes that creates the backlash.

  514. Phil says:

    The MSM didn’t do squat on the Edwards story. LOL The National Inquirer dug it up. The MSM would have been quite content to do nothing on the story. Only when the Inquirer broke the story did the MSM cover it. Cheating on your terminally ill spouse wasn’t something the lefties in the media could spin. At that point, Edwards had to be thrown under the bus.

  515. Paul says:

    I think the chaos is deliberate on Trump’s part. Many on the left think it is helping him by causing confusion on many fronts.

    I suppose we’ll find out in November and 2020 if it has helped or hurt him in the long run.

  516. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 25, 2018 at 12:34 pm
    “Most Americans would like some calm”
    That works both ways. The left and the never Trumpers would do well to cease howling at the moon 24/7.

    – Also, you give Never Trumpers way too much credit. Do you think George Will, Steve Schmidt, Max Boot, and a few others matter one bit? Of course, they don’t. There’s not a single Never Trumper who appears on FoxNews and FoxNews is the only station pro-Trump people watch.

    Never Trumpers, all 13 of them, have become the boogy man for people like Mollie Hemingway and her pals at the Federalist, but they have ZERO influence.

  517. Messy says:

    517. If anyone was screwing Obama before he was married, no one would care, as he wasn’t anyone and he wasn’t married.

    The MSM didn’t care about Slick Willie having an affair in the Oval Office? Pu-leeze!!. I’m old enough to remember how it was the only thing on the news during 1998. Hell, we called MSNBC “the Lewinsky channel”.

    Look, it’s not the act, it’s the coverup. Did anyone care about whether or not Stormy Daniels had a one night stand with Trump?…I mean besides Melonia?…no. It wasn’t news. It was the NDA which was the scandal. Considering that Trump’s sex life was all over the media for decades before he got the GOP nod, no one would care a fig about it. The Access Hollywood tape was a scandal. If Hillary was screwing some guy, most people would say…”Good for her.”

    Had Trump just said “yeah, I screwed around, so what?” Stormy and the others would have been less of a blip than the reports of Bush Sr.’s mistresses.

    Does the MSM care about Presidents or potential Presidents screwing around? Ask President Gary Hart. A President Hart would have been one of the Greats.

  518. Phil says:

    Yeah, if only Trump would just sit back and be W the MSM would lay off. No character flaws, affairs or otherwise. Yep, they really layed off W didn’t they. He was in the high 30s even before the bottom dropped out of the economy in the two months before the 2008 election. How did that happen? The MSM hammered him daily with everything they had.

    The MSM hates Republican presidents. They always have and always will.

  519. phoenixrisen says:

    #519 — Your concern trolling is getting really old. You’re approaching Bunu territory

  520. Waingro says:

    QPac drops a nasty D+12 generic ballot poll. It’s a D+5 sample, but it has 38% “independents” with a plurality of those “independents” saying saying Judge Kavanaugh should not be confirmed.

    Smells like garbage.

    https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2558

  521. Phil says:

    I agree, the Never Trumpers inside the beltway have no influence with rank in file Republicans. None. Zip….. Soooo, they may as well shut the hell up – but they can’t. Howling makes them feel morally and intellectually superior. We ignore them. Self righteous pricks.

  522. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 25, 2018 at 12:51 pm
    Yeah, if only Trump would just sit back and be W the MSM would lay off. No character flaws, affairs or otherwise. Yep, they really layed off W didn’t they. He was in the high 30s even before the bottom dropped out of the economy in the two months before the 2008 election. How did that happen? The MSM hammered him daily with everything they had.
    The MSM hates Republican presidents. They always have and always will.

    -GWB’s standing at the end off his term had everything to do with the daily stories of American soldiers dying in Iraq. By 2006, Iraq was wildly unpopular and his approval sank because of it.

    To suggest GWB’s low approval rating was due to him not fighting back against the press and not Iraq is just wrong. Despite what Rush Limbaugh and some others think, waking up everyday and being willing to fight trench warfare is not a good strategy.

  523. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 25, 2018 at 12:56 pm
    I agree, the Never Trumpers inside the beltway have no influence with rank in file Republicans. None. Zip….. Soooo, they may as well shut the hell up – but they can’t. Howling makes them feel morally and intellectually superior. We ignore them. Self righteous pricks.

    – How dare they have views that aren’t in line with Trump.

  524. Robbie says:

    phoenixrisen says:
    July 25, 2018 at 12:52 pm
    #519 — Your concern trolling is getting really old. You’re approaching Bunu territory

    – Poor baby. Read something that you didn’t agree with so you got triggered. Sad!

  525. Phil says:

    531

    Well, if that poll had any validity I guess we can expect Manchin, Heidi, and Donnelly to vote no on the Kavanaugh confirmation.

    The fact that they won’t tells you all you need to know about what they think about that poll.

  526. Paul says:

    Phil,
    Why do you think these life-long Republicans can’t shut up? Perhaps they have some legitimate concerns about the future of our country and the Republican party.

  527. jason says:

    f Obama had sex with a porn star in his past, it would have ben huge news. Partly because it would be so shocking and out of character.”

    Zzzzzzz…..

    Was it always covered up because it was “out of character” for Clinton?

    I can see the headline now:

    “Disreputable bimbo hooker lying golddigger accuses Obama of affair”

  528. Phil says:

    Robbie, they can have any views on Trump they want. My point is nobody cares. The fact that they think Republicans do tells you just how plugged in to reality the inside the beltway bunch really is.

    Yeah, they can howl at the moon all they want. Oh no, Steve Schmidt will refuse to run another 2008 type Republican campaign. That will show us.

  529. jason says:

    Why do you think these life-long Republicans can’t shut up? ”

    They can’t get over their preferred candidate lost.

    Do you think Amoral Scumbag cares about the party or does he just care about attacking anyone not named Jeb Bush?

    Don’t answer, rhetorical.

  530. jason says:

    king up everyday and being willing to fight trench warfare is not a good strategy.”

    LOL

    Amoral Scumbag would like nothing less if Trump just surrendered unilaterally to the MSM fake news.

    I think that is what bothers him the most about Trump, that he doesn’t allow the MSM’s partisan and dishonest narrative go unchecked.

  531. Phil says:

    Paul, I just told you why these “lifelong Republicans” can’t shut up. It feeds their arrogant, self righteous egos.

    Of course there is that small 90 percent slice of Republicans who don’t go along with George Will. It’s the same exact 90 percent number BTW that supported every Republican Presidential candidate in every presidential election since FDR.

  532. jason says:

    “Perhaps they have some legitimate concerns about the future of our country and the Republican party.”

    Huh, no, they are petty sore losers whose last thought is the country and the party.

    Anybody who can’t get over the results of the election has zero credibility.

    Attack Trump on specific issues, fine. Blind hatred of the kind Amoral Scumbag exhibits here is not good for the country or the party.

  533. jason says:

    Yeah, if only Trump would just sit back and be W the MSM would lay off.”

    Yep, like Rand Paul’s theory that if you are nice to terrorists they won’t be terrorists anymore.

    Of course, Amoral Scumbag knows it would be suicide for Trump to surrender to the MSM’s lying narrative.

    That’s why he wants him to do it.

  534. NYCmike says:

    ” Despite what Rush Limbaugh and some others think, waking up everyday and being willing to fight trench warfare is not a good strategy.”

    -If the other side is fighting trench warfare, and winning while doing it, you DAMN WELL better be willing to fight back in kind!

    W did not know how. Romney did not know how. McCain was useless.

  535. Phil says:

    Maxine Waters mow saying she was sent by God to stop Trump.

    As Robbie likes to say, bless her heart.

  536. jason says:

    These “lifelong” Republicans show their true colors when they ask voters to elect Democrats.

    Like Amoral Scumbag who is desperately hoping Rs lose 40 seats.

  537. Phil says:

    predicting 40 – hoping for 60

  538. NYCmike says:

    HAL won’t let me post the link from Twitchy about that edited press conference….

    -Wasn’t someone speaking about editing the press conference?

    Seems like the edits were done by Bloomberg…….oh well….

  539. jason says:

    Was the MSM easy on John Edwards when he had an affair and paid off his mistress”

    Absolutely.

    They covered for him as long as they could. Do you think the MSM didn’t know?

    It was only when the Nstional Enquirer broke the story with pictures were they forced to acknowledge it.

    “Rumors about John Edwards’ love affair had been circulating for months, but it wasn’t until the former Democratic presidential candidate admitted to the affair that national news organizations jumped on the story.

    After the National Enquirer reported catching Edwards making a late-night visit to see his ex-mistress last month, the blogosphere exploded, asking why the mainstream media was not reporting the story.

    John Edwards admitted Friday that he had an affair with Rielle Hunter in 2006.

    Was it because of a condescending attitude toward a tabloid’s reporting? Bias toward a Democratic candidate? Or sympathy toward Elizabeth Edwards, who is battling an incurable form of cancer?

    David Carr, a columnist for The New York Times, said many news organizations “tend to pick up stories from the National Enquirer with tongs.”

    “It’s also a little scary for big outfits to step up on a story like this. Sex may sell, but it can really hurt your relationship with readers,” he added.

    Enquirer editor David Perel said his organization feels a “big sense of vindication” now that Edwards has admitted to the affair.

    The former vice presidential candidate was first confronted about the allegations after the Enquirer reported the affair in October.

    “The story is false, it’s completely untrue, it’s ridiculous,” he said.

    Asked by CNN’s Howard Kurtz if sympathy for Elizabeth Edwards played any part in an apparent reluctance to report the story, ABC correspondent Kate Snow said no.

    “We at ABC were working on this story, and if we had had any proof and any verifiable facts, we certainly would have gone with the story,” she said. “It was just a matter of, we’re not going to put something on the air until we know that it’s true.”

    On this particular story, most major news networks took the stance that the rumors of an affair were not newsworthy.

    Brian Ross, ABC’s chief investigative correspondent, said his investigative team was pushing hard following the money trail, looking at such things as who paid for Hunter’s fancy California home and the use of campaign funds.

    “It’s also a little scary for big outfits to step up on a story like this. Sex may sell, but it can really hurt your relationship with readers,” he added.

    Asked by CNN’s Howard Kurtz if sympathy for Elizabeth Edwards played any part in an apparent reluctance to report the story, ABC correspondent Kate Snow said no.

    “We at ABC were working on this story, and if we had had any proof and any verifiable facts, we certainly would have gone with the story,” she said. “It was just a matter of, we’re not going to put something on the air until we know that it’s true.”

    On this particular story, most major news networks took the stance that the rumors of an affair were not newsworthy.”

  540. Waingro says:

    Yikes. Another D+12 poll.

    G. Elliott Morris
    ?
    ????
    ? @gelliottmorris

    New Kaiser Family Foundation poll has Democrats gaining ground in the generic ballot in key competitive states and districts.

    April: D+8
    July: D+12

    Lots of other health care crosstabs

    https://twitter.com/gelliottmorris/status/1022163216074330113

  541. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 25, 2018 at 1:09 pm
    Why do you think these life-long Republicans can’t shut up? ”
    They can’t get over their preferred candidate lost.
    Do you think Amoral Scumbag cares about the party or does he just care about attacking anyone not named Jeb Bush?
    Don’t answer, rhetorical.

    – Jason fraud’s brain has been so eaten away by Trumpism that he has nothing left to say other than “but Jeb” when anyone speaks against the candidate he hated every day of the campaign, the candidate for whom he didn’t vote, and the candidate over whom he left the party.

  542. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 25, 2018 at 1:14 pm
    Paul, I just told you why these “lifelong Republicans” can’t shut up. It feeds their arrogant, self righteous egos.

    – So if they hold views on trade or Russia that don’t match Trump’s, it’s not right for them to say so? How American.

  543. Paul says:

    Yes, Jason, I’m sure it’s their unwavering devotion to Jeb! that motivates them.

    I don’t think Jeb’s wife or family are even that devoted 🙂

  544. phoenixrisen says:

    #535 — It’s so obvious. You’ve done this at the site for years. Expressing “concern” and then saying stuff that most of the time doesn’t come true. It’s pointless to exhaust yourself with concern like that.

  545. Waingro says:

    Just perused through the comments on RRH and according to some “concerned” Republicans, the Trump “child separation fiasco” is apparently only bad for Republicans, even though recent polls have shown self-identified Republicans are FAR more energized to vote in midterms based on “immigration” then Dems.

  546. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 25, 2018 at 1:22 pm
    predicting 40 – hoping for 60

    – You know I’m not rooting for losses. You, yourself, currently believe Republicans will lose 30 seats or so right?

    My prediction is based on Trump’s standing in the approval polls, the generic ballot and the high number of at risk seats in districts held by Republicans but won by Hillary in 2016.

  547. jason says:

    So Paul, if it was Trump, do you think the MSM woudl have had any of the following reservations:

    One:

    “It’s also a little scary for big outfits to step up on a story like this. Sex may sell, but it can really hurt your relationship with readers,” he added.

    Two:

    On this particular story, most major news networks took the stance that the rumors of an affair were not newsworthy.’

    Yes or no?

  548. phoenixrisen says:

    #551 — D+6 poll. Party breakdown is 31D/25R/33I

    That poll is a big time stretch

  549. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag:

    So if they hold views on trade or Russia that don’t match Trump’s, it’s not right for them to say so? How American.”

    What jason said:

    “Attack Trump on specific issues, fine. Blind hatred of the kind Amoral Scumbag exhibits here is not good for the country or the party.”

    As Rush Limbaugh likes to say about confronting liberals, I could deal with Amoral Scumbag with half my brain.

  550. Waingro says:

    #559, D+6 is fine. It’s the number of “independents” I’m seeing in these polls that makes me skeptical.

  551. jason says:

    Can you see it now?

    MSNBC refusing to run a story on Trump because “sex can really hurt your relationship with viewers”.

    or

    CNN refuses to run story about Trump affair because its not “newsworthy”.

  552. Robbie says:

    phoenixrisen says:
    July 25, 2018 at 1:38 pm
    #535 — It’s so obvious. You’ve done this at the site for years. Expressing “concern” and then saying stuff that most of the time doesn’t come true. It’s pointless to exhaust yourself with concern like that.

    – The problem you have is you only want to hear things that reinforce your beliefs. So when someone speaks a view opposite to the one you hold on Trump, that person obviously must be a troll.

    I’m used to this kind of crybaby stuff because I’ve been posting here since 2004.

    – I remember in 2006 being attacked for predicting a rough outcome.

    – I remember being attacked by Jason fraud and his butt buddy Howard Dean for predicting a substantial McCain loss early on in 2008. By the way, whatever happened to the Michelle Obama “whitey” tape that was going to defeat Obama?

    – I remember being attacked in 2012 for criticizing the campaign Romney ran (Romney even admitted he ran a poor campaign) and being attacked for not subscribing to poll truthing or the laughable delbov curve.

    – I even remember being chastised by some for saying Sharon Angle and Ken Buck were awful candidates who risked losing unlosable seats.

  553. jason says:

    You know I’m not rooting for losses.”

    Pathological liar.

  554. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    July 25, 2018 at 1:38 pm
    Just perused through the comments on RRH and according to some “concerned” Republicans, the Trump “child separation fiasco” is apparently only bad for Republicans, even though recent polls have shown self-identified Republicans are FAR more energized to vote in midterms based on “immigration” then Dems.

    – Polling shows those who identify as Republican in polling is smaller than it has been. That probably explains why Trump’s support within the party is so high (90% rather than say 80%, still high).

    Regardless, the child separation issue matters with Independents. They’re the ones who will decide the majority and the policy doesn’t poll well with them. It might tickle the erogenous zone of base voters, but that’s not enough tome win general elections.

  555. lisab says:

    i guess we know the new talking point

    “trump fatigue”

    i am guessing the rank and file dems, not the antifa types, are having “trump fatigue” more than the republicans

  556. jason says:

    ” because I’ve been posting here since 2004.”

    Yep, very consistent.

    Same M.O., same lies, same MSM sycophant toadie.

    Funny, you left out your finest moments.

    “Brokered convention”… “7 seat lost in Senate in 2016″… “Jeb to clear the field, Rubio afraid to run (only 17 other candidates were not afraid of Jeb)… Celebrating Obama’s win….”

    When it comes to stupid predictions here, I am sure you win hands down.

  557. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 25, 2018 at 1:49 pm
    You know I’m not rooting for losses.”
    Pathological liar.

    – Jason fraud is like a wind up doll these days. Pull the string and it’s either “You’re just pissed Jeb lost” or “pathological liar”.

    I guess if I had been exposed to as a fraud the way Jason fraud has been over his views on Trump, I’d try and deflect as much as possible as well.

    By the way, did you see Rubio all but endorse Trump’s asinine trade war with China today? What size MAGA gimp suit do you think Marco wears?

  558. lisab says:

    the ratings of cnn pretty much show the dems “trump fatigue”

    fox news is doing well

    and

    the scotus nomination hearings will greatly increase whichever side wins,

    which … probably will be the gop

  559. Waingro says:

    “They’re the ones who will decide the majority and the policy doesn’t poll well with them.”

    It doesn’t poll well with them, but polling also shows that immigration is not an issue of top priority for them either. Whereas it has spiked for Republicans.

    Agreed on the drop of the self-identified R’s though. That has made me think there has been some recent oversampling in some of the Trump approval polls.

  560. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    July 25, 2018 at 1:52 pm
    i guess we know the new talking point
    “trump fatigue”
    i am guessing the rank and file dems, not the antifa types, are having “trump fatigue” more than the republicans

    – It’s a better talking point than claiming Rubio, Cruz, and Kasich were gay as you did in the 2016 race or as you claimed I was last year in an effort to smear me for holding views you don’t like.

    And “Trump fatigue” was something I mentioned weeks ago.

  561. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 25, 2018 at 1:54 pm
    ” because I’ve been posting here since 2004.”
    Yep, very consistent.
    Same M.O., same lies, same MSM sycophant toadie.
    Funny, you left out your finest moments.
    “Brokered convention”… “7 seat lost in Senate in 2016?… “Jeb to clear the field, Rubio afraid to run (only 17 other candidates were not afraid of Jeb)… Celebrating Obama’s win….”
    When it comes to stupid predictions here, I am sure you win hands down.

    – Reminds me of your view that Mitt Romney ran the best campaign any Republican ever has, even better than Reagan.

    Also reminds me of your view Marco Rubio was great candidate. Do great candidates use their chance to take down Trump by talking about Trump having a small dick and wetting his pants? Asking for a friend.

  562. jason says:

    Regardless, the child separation issue matters with Independents.”

    Zzzzzzzz…..

    “I bet there is not 1% of independents who will vote in November that will be voting on this issue, especially since its not even an issue any longer.

    A federal judge who has criticized the Trump administration’s tardiness in reuniting families separated at the border offered praise during a status hearing on Friday after 450 children between the ages of 5 and 17 were reunited with their parents.

    “The reunifications are happening very rapidly, which is good. A big block will be reunified in a timely manner,”U.S. District Judge Dana Sabraw said. “It really does appear there’s been great progress.”

    But who knows, maybe the Indies are worried about Stormy?

  563. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    July 25, 2018 at 1:57 pm

    Agreed on the drop of the self-identified R’s though. That has made me think there has been some recent oversampling in some of the Trump approval polls.

    – It’s hard to really know since pollsters allow party ID to float. I imagine there are a lot of Republicans who know suggest they’re Independents simply because they don’t like the current situation. In the end, they’ll vote on election day for Republicans.

    But if you’re right there has been oversampling, then no Bueno.

  564. jason says:

    Also reminds me of your view Marco Rubio was great candidate.”

    He was certainly greater than your candidate.

    But, ok, I admit that’s a very low bar.

  565. jason says:

    “imagine there are a lot of Republicans who know suggest they’re Independents simply because they don’t like the current situation. In the end, they’ll vote on election day for Republicans.”

    Or ex-Rs like me who will vote Republican.

  566. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 25, 2018 at 2:02 pm
    Regardless, the child separation issue matters with Independents.”
    Zzzzzzzz…..
    “I bet there is not 1% of independents who will vote in November that will be voting on this issue, especially since its not even an issue any longer.
    A federal judge who has criticized the Trump administration’s tardiness in reuniting families separated at the border offered praise during a status hearing on Friday after 450 children between the ages of 5 and 17 were reunited with their parents.
    “The reunifications are happening very rapidly, which is good. A big block will be reunified in a timely manner,”U.S. District Judge Dana Sabraw said. “It really does appear there’s been great progress.”
    But who knows, maybe the Indies are worried about Stormy?

    – Does it poll well with Independents or not, fraud?

  567. lisab says:

    i did not claim they were gay

    i said that rubio had gay rumors, which is true

  568. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag is gay?

    Who knew?

    You really can’t know these days, I guess.

  569. lisab says:

    also, the difference in money receipts shows that trump fatigue is setting in on the dems

    obviously the antifa types have no money, so it is the rank and file types who donate to the dnc

    and they are not

    the gop rank and file is

  570. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 25, 2018 at 2:04 pm
    Also reminds me of your view Marco Rubio was great candidate.”
    He was certainly greater than your candidate.
    But, ok, I admit that’s a very low bar.

    – So you admit he wasn’t a great candidate, just better than a bad candidate? Great We agree.

    Does that mean this cover overstated things?

    https://goo.gl/images/EBdeSe

  571. lisab says:

    i think the dems will have to go all in on the scotus nomination

    the antifa dems will demand it

  572. jason says:

    i said that rubio had gay rumors, which is true”

    That’s what I am saying, there are rumors Amoral Scumbag is gay, which is true.

    “It’s a better talking point than claiming Rubio, Cruz, and Kasich were gay as you did in the 2016 race or as you claimed I was last year”

  573. DW says:

    Easy to illustrate polling problems.

    Go back to UT_04 in 2016.

    SurveyUSA said the Democrat would flip the seat:

    Doug Owens (D) 51
    Mia Love (R-Inc) 45

    But Dan Jones, the pollster normally associated with Utah polls wasn’t fooled:

    Doug Owens (D) 38
    Mia Love (R-Inc) 51

    Actual results:

    Doug Owens (D) 41
    Mia Love (R-Inc) 54

    ——

    now in 2018 Dan Jones is saying its closer, but Love still leads and SUSA is nowhere to be found.

  574. jason says:

    – Does it poll well with Independents or not, fraud?”

    LOL

    How quickly the goalposts changed it went from “it matters to Independents” to “it doesn’t poll well with Independents” in a nanosecond.

    Indies opposed the the policy by about a 65% to 25% margin.

    But to extrapolate that into Indies will vote against Republicans in November because of this issue, considering its months from now and the issue is essentially resolved, is pretty stupid.

    Oh wait…

  575. NYCmike says:

    The more Robbie posts about a “wave”, especially when he starts using O’Reilly, whom he normally would ridicule, as backup, gives me confidence that November will hold some pleasant surprises.

  576. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag is still trashing Rubio?

    Let’s see just on this thread

    Trashed Rubio for attacking Trump.

    Trashed Rubio for supporting Trump.

    Yep, same M.O. since 2004, folks.

  577. lisab says:

    i just wonder how the dems will try to stop kavanaugh?

    sex with a paralegal 20 years ago?

  578. jason says:

    The more Robbie posts about a “wave”, especially when he starts using O’Reilly,”

    Yes he has a new hero every hour, he would be praising the ghost of Idi Amin if the ghost said something negative about Trump.

    You don’t have to be born again to get redemption from Amoral Scumbag. If you even suggest something negative about Trump, you are SAVED.

    I bet if Rush attacked Trump’s haircut, Amoral Scumbag would write Rand Paul immediately to waive the military requirement and award him the Congressional Medal of Honor.

  579. jason says:

    sex with a paralegal 20 years ago?”

    Nahhh….

    I think it will have to be a goat. Male.

  580. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    465. Messy: “Show us where Canada has a version of the second amendment.”

    Messy, how does your comment have anything to do with my post in #464? Here my post again:

    “Their saying the Toronto shooter was just a nice boy with mental problems. Oh wait…

    “Canadian investigators have indications that Faisal Hussain, who opened fire on restaurants and cafes in a popular Toronto neighborhood on Sunday, visited Islamic State (ISIS) websites and may have expressed support for the terrorist group, a law enforcement source told CBS News on Tuesday.
    The 29-year-old Hussain killed a 10-year-old girl and a young woman and wounded 13 others in Sunday’s attack in Toronto’s Greektown.
    Investigators are looking into whether Hussain may have lived at one time in Afghanistan and possibly Pakistan, the source told CBS News. There is no indication, however, that Hussain was directed by ISIS to carry out the attack.
    “At this stage, based on the state of the investigation, which is led by the Toronto police service, there is no connection between that individual and national security,” Public Safety Minister Ralph Goodale said Tuesday.
    Hussain’s family has said he suffered from psychosis and depression for years but they never imagined he would do such a thing. It was not immediately clear whether he took his own life or was killed by police during the attack Sunday night.”

    This is so much like Obama. its never a terrorist attack; always a mixed up boy. The solution; disarm the potential victims.””

  581. jason says:

    So you admit he wasn’t a great candidate, just better than a bad candidate? Great We agree.”

    He was the best candidate of the 17 running, that is why I supported him.

    GFY.

  582. lisab says:

    as someone who is well known for being against hillary, (i voted for stein), i get to hear when trump supporters talk at lunch or dinner or coffee etc.

    the second someone like wobbles shows up, the trump supporters just go silent. all talk of politics just stops until the troll leaves.

    so it not surprising the pollsters think the electorate is d+6 in georgia. the trump supporters just want to have their coffee/lunch/dinner etc. without being screamed at

    and yesterday was funny when the meme of the day was, “anyone would have beaten hillary”

    the candidates in question could not beat trump, who is supposedly the worst candidate ever

  583. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    563. Robbie – “The problem you have is you only want to hear things that reinforce your beliefs. So when someone speaks a view opposite to the one you hold on Trump, that person obviously must be a troll.”

    Poor Robbie, the ignored prophet of doom. Since you quoted your claims of being accurate in your predictions many years ago, its time to revisit you famed predictions on election night 2016:

    “Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 6:06 pm
    Give me a break.
    I’m totally disappointed Clinton’s going to win and more than a few good Republicans are going to lose because of it.
    I’m even more depressed that we have to wait another four years to try and fix this. Of course, if we nominate Cruz, then we’ll have to wait until 2024.
    I’m celebrating nothing. I’m pissed.
    __________
    I’m not sure if they have any state specific data, but Mark Halperin and John Heilemann both just suggested Democrats could sweep most of the Senate races. Earlier this evening, they didn’t offer that impression.

    __________________
    Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 7:17 pm
    Lord Ashcroft has the exits posted on his twitter. Basically, they show an easy Clinton win, but not a landslide.
    Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 7:40 pm
    Look like a rough night, but we all knew that once Trump became the nominee.
    Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 8:12 pm
    Plenty of speculation that Blount is in big trouble.

    Sorry Robbie, you have no credibility as a political prognosticator.

  584. lisab says:

    don’t forget utah and idaho being in play

  585. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    593. “the candidates in question could not beat trump, who is supposedly the worst candidate ever”

    Good point. And Trump beat them soundly. Clinton, Bush and other members of the establishment had lost touch with the American public. It facilitated the rise of Trump and Sanders. Says a lot about the Obama presidency.

  586. Paul says:

    When looking at 2020, does anyone think there would be room for a centrist such as Kasich (or a Kasich type with a bit more personality) to run as an independent? Would only Democrats break off to vote for someone like this? Would any Republicans? Does a strong independent run only make it easier for Trump to be reelected?

  587. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    595. “don’t forget utah and idaho being in play.”

    Yes, Hillary carried an awesome 27.5% in both states.

  588. jason says:

    Would only Democrats break off to vote for someone like this? ”

    LOL

    Democrats would never vote for Kasich.

    Neither would Paul.

  589. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag said GA and AZ were in play too.

  590. jason says:

    ’m not sure if they have any state specific data, but Mark Halperin and John Heilemann both just suggested Democrats could sweep most of the Senate races. Earlier this evening, they didn’t offer that impression.”

    Halperin and Heileman are two of most partisan leftwing hacks around.

    It’s no wonder Amoral Scumbag would rely on them for information.

  591. jason says:

    Messy says:
    July 25, 2018 at 7:45 am

    Does the censoring of the Helsinki press conference transcript be considered fake news or just lying?”

    MSM Fake News.

    Paul says:
    July 25, 2018 at 10:31 am

    So Sheeple and Jason,
    You didn’t respond to the substance of Messy’s post. Is it alright for the White House to alter BOTH the official transcript AND official video to erase a question that they don’t like?”

    Apologize anytime.

  592. Todd McCain says:

    Being reported that Trump has received major concessions from the EU on trade; who knows if accurate.

    Trump presser soon.

  593. Paul says:

    I’m awaiting Jason da Moron to apologize to me first. But since he’s a moronic idiot, he won’t.

  594. Paul says:

    Mr. Jason Moron:
    I would vote for Kasich.

  595. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here are two great quotes from Secretary of Defense Mattis. Keep in mind Obama, the U.S. first snowflake president, pushed Mattis out because he was just too.. well he was nickname “mad dog.”

    “Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everybody you meet.”

    “I come in peace. I didn’t bring artillery. But I’m pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: if you f— with me, I’ll kill you all.”

    John Kerry and Jane Fonda must be clutching their love beads in horror.

  596. lisab says:

    is the new plan to run kasich as a spoiler to let warren or whoever the dems run win?

    certainly the never trumpers would love that, but since the rank and file dems are probably more conservative than the dem candidates that will run, he might actually spoil the dem candidate more.

    the republicans are now pretty solid behind trump, the dems are torn between outright marxists, european style socialists, minorities and some working people

    kasich might just take the dem white working people vote who feel abandoned by the dems

  597. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Jason should be pleased. Maybe Trump playing hardball will finally result in actual free trade.

    “@POTUS on talks with @EU_Commission President @JunckerEU: “This is why we agreed today, first of all, to work together towards zero tariffs, zero non-tariff barriers and zero subsidies on non-auto industrial goods.”

  598. dblaikie says:

    BAM! Big trade agreement with European Union! In short they blinked. Europe to lower non auto tariff’s. They will buy large amounts of soy beans and natural gas. And all the press could do was yell about Micheal Cohen.

    Wait until tomorrow when GDP is announced and the market reacts to a trade victory.

  599. dblaikie says:

    Oh, and Jason will even agree with this on trade. No raising of tariffs while US and European Union are in negotiations.

  600. lisab says:

    European Union caves on trade

    just happened

  601. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    608. “kasich might just take the dem white working people vote who feel abandoned by the dems.”

    He would certainly carry the dull people’s vote. He should run on the Milquetoast Party ticket.

  602. lisab says:

    “Jason should be pleased. Maybe Trump playing hardball will finally result in actual free trade.”

    as i predicted it is the prisoner’s dilemma game, the only way you can succeed is to match your opponent. if they have tarriffs, you match them dollar for dollar, both UP and DOWN

    since the conventional wisdom is that having tarriffs is bad for both parties, it is in the best interests of both parties to agree to lower tarriffs

  603. lisab says:

    “He would certainly carry the dull people’s vote. ”

    ok, that was mean … and funny

  604. Paul says:

    I assumed that there would be more Dems voting for Kasich than Republicans.

    Looks like, I’ll have to go back to plan B.

  605. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “They will buy large amounts of soy beans and natural gas.”

    I hope those of you who live in Pennsylvania, Ohio and West Virginia realize Trump’s European trade deal just made your day. Natural gas from your states will go through the Cove Point LNG facility and directly European, and compete with Putin’s gas. Putin’s going to have pour even more money into the anti-fracking groups he has been bankrolling for over a decade.

  606. Paul says:

    Plan B is praying for an intervention from God.

  607. lisab says:

    breaking CNN: Trump claims (without proof) that Russians will interfere in Nov. for Dems

    wait … didn’t cnn just spend the last two years saying the russians interfere in our elections and that is bad?

  608. lisab says:

    “I assumed that there would be more Dems voting for Kasich than Republicans.”

    i would vote for him over any of the dem predicted candidates so far, but since i am a white female socialist, i don’t think i am your target voter

  609. NYCmike says:

    In regard to tariffs, let’s not shake the pom-poms until they are lowered or done away with.

    BUT, let’s also make note that Trump sent out a tweet about NO TARIFFS, which someone posted here yesterday……..the silence about that tweet from the FREE TRADE ABSOLUTISTS WAS DEAFENING!

  610. NYCmike says:

    From a Bloomberg article, the link is very long:

    “President Donald Trump reached an agreement Wednesday with European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker aimed at averting a transatlantic trade war, easing tensions stoked by Trump’s threat to impose tariffs on car imports.

    The two sides agreed to expand European imports of U.S. liquified natural gas and soybeans and lower industrial tariffs on both sides, Trump said. The U.S. and European Union will “hold off on other tariffs” while negotiations proceed, Juncker said.

    “We had a big day, very big,” Trump said at a joint statement with Juncker at the White House Wednesday. He hailed “a new phase” of trade relations.

    The two leaders also said they would work toward “zero” tariffs on industrial goods, according to Trump. He added that they would try to “resolve” steel and aluminum tariffs he imposed earlier this year and retaliatory duties the EU levied in response.”

  611. Paul says:

    619: Trump must be reading Robbie’s posts and is now a bit worried about big losses in November.

  612. NYCmike says:

    There goes Trump again, that dastardly protectionist-isolationist-liberal-Democrat!!

  613. NYCmike says:

    Paul,

    Yes, he is definitely worried!

    Make sure you call the DNC and make sure they are very overconfident, similar to Nov 8, 2016.

  614. lisab says:

    i think he was just trolling cnn

  615. Paul says:

    We have Russia at our back to fill our sails.

  616. Paul says:

    Just for fun…. a HHR poll.

    Will trump leave office in:
    2021
    2025
    Sometime after 2025

  617. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    But Sean Treand told us that Florida was not in play:

    FL-Sen: Scott 44, Nelson 40

    FL-Gov:
    DeSantis 36, Putnam 27
    Graham 20, Levine 16, Greene 14, King 9, Gillum 7

    https://business.fau.edu/departments/economics/business-economics-polling/bepi-polls/bepi-polls-2018/florida-primaries-heat-up.php

  618. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Sabato’s Crystal Ball, part of the University of Virginia Center for Politics, changed its ratings of the two races, which is good news for U.S. Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., and state Sen. Richard Ojeda.

    The Senate race moved from “toss up” to “leans Democratic.”

    The House race moved from “leans Republican” to “toss up.”

  619. Todd McCain says:

    I think Trump will re-elected; he will have money and infrastructure; two things he didn’t have in his shoe string budget campaign.

    Brad Parscale is also a very good campaign manager. The Dems prob nominate Kamala Harris if I bet today. Really doubt Uncle Joe runs.

  620. lisab says:

    2021

  621. dblaikie says:

    First we have Pompeo making mince meat out of the Senate Foreign Relations Com. And now we have this victory on tariffs. Don’t know the details yet, but just the fact that while negotiations continue in good faith there will be no further raising of tariffs.

    And in the face of this, all the media (including to a certain extent) can do is drone on and on about total crap that no one cares about outside of Joe Scarborough, Robert Corker, and all of CNN.

    Tomorrow I bet stock futures will be through the roof. And all the GOP Congressional candidates in the Midwest and Farm belt will be eating a hearty breakfast of Wheaties in preparing to go out and eat their opponents for lunch.

  622. dblaikie says:

    typo corrections
    there will be no further raising of tariffs is huge

    including to a certain extent Fox

    sorry

  623. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    627.”We have Russia at our back to fill our sails.”

    Actually, they may need to use their sails more often, since we are trying to take away their European natural gas market. We have also been giving the Ukraine weapons that Obama refused to give them, and are doing military exercises for the first time with Finland, and also with the Baltics.

    As Marco Rubio said: .@marcorubio: “[@POTUS’s] policies on Russia, if we want to be fair, have been stronger than the previous administration and frankly any administration since the end of the Cold War.”

  624. jason says:

    Messy moves from one fake news story to the next.

  625. Paul says:

    But, Messy, I was told here that the tapes are a bunch of nothing. Maybe Fox didn’t get that memo.

  626. dblaikie says:

    The funny thing is that for all this sound and fury — nothing was paid. It was discussed and I don’t think discussion is a crime.

  627. jason says:

    “Jason should be pleased. Maybe Trump playing hardball will finally result in actual free trade”

    zzzzzzzz…

    F–cking for virginity!

  628. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    640 “zzzzz F– for virginity!”

    Hate to tell you this Jason, but the people you are saying are virgins have been “around the block” more than once. In fact their tariff activities place them in sort of a red light district.

  629. Blobbie says:

    any of you guys looking for some tarriffs tonight?!

  630. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I am so impressed Paul & Messy are so impressed with Fox News. You never would have guessed from their past posts. Should note Napolitano expressly stated that Trump’s conduct was not a criminal violation; it was a discussion of a potential liability in a civil action.

  631. lisab says:

    Santa Barbara Authorizes Jail Time for Handing Out Straws

  632. lisab says:

    gov baker refuses to support brett kavanaugh

  633. lisab says:

    The new streetcars that Seattle ordered to expand the downtown streetcar system are heavier and longer than the ones the city now operates, and it’s unclear if they’ll work on the current track and fit in the maintenance barn, Mayor Jenny Durkan’s office said Tuesday.

  634. Robbie says:

    Numbers like these, especially if we see them in early to mid 2019, will only increase the chances of a credible primary challenge.

    Mark Murray
    @mmurraypolitics

    Does Trump deserve re-election in 2020?

    MI: 28% deserves re-election, 62% give another person a chance
    MN: 30% deserves re-election, 60% not
    WI: 31% deserves re-election, 63% not

    July 15-19, RVs

  635. jason says:

    but the people you are saying are virgins have been “around the block” more than once.”

    I hope you are not talking about Trump, whose knowledge of foreign trade and policy is what, zero?

  636. jason says:

    “It was a discussion of a potential liability in a civil action.”

    Exactly, and even that is very questionable, Napolitano is trying get some ratings.

  637. NYCmike says:

    “Numbers like these, especially if we see them in early to mid 2019, will only increase the chances of a credible primary challenge.”

    -Robbie,

    Aye Dios Mio!

    Please, go to confession and ask for help! Obviously, your heart is poisoned with hatred.

  638. jason says:

    I’m awaiting Jason da Moron to apologize to me first. But since he’s a moronic idiot, he won’t.”

    Are you and Messy ready to acknowledge you were parroting MSNBC Madcow fake news here about the press conference?

    WAPO (famous for fake news itself)

    “No, the White House didn’t intentionally edit a question to Putin out of a video”

  639. NYCmike says:

    On November 8, 2016, Robbie was here yapping about Lord Arsehat and other leftist hacks, and the impending Trump defeat…….NOW, he is yapping about some stupid poll for 2020.

    Lunacy.

  640. NYCmike says:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/turkey-vows-to-keep-buying-iranian-oil-we-will-not-obey

    -jason,

    You never did answer the question “What should be done about Turkey?”.

    Shall the United States treat them as an ally, or as an enemy?

    NATO Article 5, anyone?

  641. jason says:

    Numbers like these, especially if we see them in early to mid 2019, will only increase the chances of a credible primary challenge.

    Mark Murray
    @mmurraypolitics

    Does Trump deserve re-election in 2020?

    MI: 28% deserves re-election, 62% give another person a chance
    MN: 30% deserves re-election, 60% not
    WI: 31% deserves re-election, 63% not”

    LOL, Amoral Scumbag is really sick with TDS.

    These are blue states where probably the re-elect numbers match the R registration in those states.

    There isn’t going to be any “credible challenge” with those kind of numbers.

  642. jason says:

    Shall the United States treat them as an ally, or as an enemy?”

    If they are NATO members, as an ally, since those are the terms of the Treaty.

    The idea we would to make Turkey an enemy is something only an idiot like you would want.

    Next question?

  643. jason says:

    Would want to make Turkey an enemy…

  644. NYCmike says:

    “The idea we would to make Turkey an enemy…”

    -WE MADE them an enemy?

    Or they are choosing to make themselves an enemy?

    Are you blaming the United States for taking actions making them an enemy? Was Trump’s gutting of the Iran deal an offensive against Turkey??

  645. NYCmike says:

    Turkey tells the United States to GFT, and they will continue to trade with Iran.

    jason: The United States should bend over and allow Turkey to do whatever she wants, without re-thinking their relationship!

  646. Waingro says:

    Charlie Baker is dead to me.

    Seung Min Kim
    ?Verified account @seungminkim

    Per @AP, four GOP governors didn’t sign letter endorsing Kavanaugh: Baker (Mass), Hogan (Md), Scott (Vt.) and Rauner (Ill.)

  647. Tina says:

    Big win for the USA today.

    The Canadian eyebrow will also surrender.

    The Presidente of Human Trafficking will quit too.

  648. Tina says:

    Mark ?Murray polling expert.

    Joke

  649. Tina says:

    Boots Rubio throwing the president a bone after lying about the fisa on page.

  650. Tina says:

    The Presidente of Human trafficking, like a good socialist, will align himself with the drug cartels.

  651. jason says:

    Poor NYC is at war with himself against

    Here was his question:

    “Shall the United States treat them as an ally, or as an enemy?”

    I said we should treat them as an ally, not make Turkey an enemy.

    NYC comes back with:

    -WE MADE them an enemy?”

    I love this place.

  652. Tina says:

    I think Turkey should be booted from NATO.

    They are not allies.

    The turkey head is a jihadi.

    They did release the pastor today

  653. Tina says:

    John O. Brennan
    John O. Brennan
    @JohnBrennan
    Using tariffs as a blunt force instrument against allies and partners is not only short-sighted but also plays into the hands of Russia and China. Same is true with bombastic rhetoric against Iran. We need to be smarter, more sophisticated, more strategic.

    Comrades tweet did not age well.

  654. lisab says:

    Federal Agents Using ‘The Walking Dead’ Torture Song Against ICE Protesters

    Protesters camped outside the Portland headquarters of U.S. Immigration and Customs were blasted with The Collapsable Hearts Club’s ‘Easy Street’ — the same song Negan (Jeffrey Dean Morgan) and the Saviors used to torture Daryl (Norman Reedus) and other Sanctuary prisoners in The Walking Dead, the Willamette Week reports.

  655. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    648. “I hope you are not talking about Trump, whose knowledge of foreign trade and policy is what, zero?”

    I am talking about our trading partners, who have existing tariffs against the U.S. Trump is attempting to open the door for actual free trade.

  656. Phil says:

    Turkey is a member of NATO, but the guy running the country is no friend of the US. The US should not go out of its way to alienate Turkey, but make no mistake. They can no longer be counted on by us – not anymore and it would be naive to ever do so again as long as the same guy is in power. Unfortunately, his stanglehold over that country just gets tighter and tighter.

  657. Phil says:

    Comrade Brennan continues to stick his foot in his mouth.

  658. jason says:

    Phil, regimes come and go. Countries stay.

    Turkey is a long time ally and we should strive to keep it that way.

    The people of Turkey are not our enemy, even if Erdogan is an a-hole.

  659. jason says:

    “Trump is attempting to open the door for actual free trade.”

    LOL, do you believe Trump is (or ever was) interested in free trade, something he has been attacking for decades? Are you really that naive?

    Trump is a protectionist and an isolationist. Nothing more, nothing less.

    F–king for virginity!

  660. jason says:

    What should be done about Turkey?”.

    In the woods around here, I shoot them.

    Delicious.

  661. NYCmike says:

    “Turkey is a long time ally and we should strive to keep it that way.”

    -Of course we should.

    BUT, we should also recognize that their leader, who has pretty much eradicated all opposition and consolidated all power into his office, may be looking to change Turkey back into something which we have not seen for almost 100 years.

  662. NYCmike says:

    jason STILL ignoring the tweet sent just yesterday by Trump which spoke about lowering and/or eliminating tariffs……oh well, he also still brings up 54% of Trump’s political donations as well….information is taken in S L O W L Y by some people.

  663. NYCmike says:

    jason STILL ignoring the Kudlow interview from 2 months ago where he stated that the aim of the Trump admin was to have tariffs reduced/gotten rid of across the board.

  664. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    646.lisab says:
    July 25, 2018 at 5:43 pm
    “The new streetcars that Seattle ordered to expand the downtown streetcar system are heavier and longer than the ones the city now operates, and it’s unclear if they’ll work on the current track and fit in the maintenance barn, Mayor Jenny Durkan’s office said Tuesday.”

    What surprises you about this? This is a mere drop in the bucket of the money that leftist west coast cities waste on transit boondoggles. That is one reason they miss Obama so much, he gave them billions of taxpayer’s dollars to spend like drunk sailors.
    Los Angeles is an example, it spend $7 billion on light rail and subways; with the result that mass transit use has continued to go down.
    http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-ridership-slump-20160127-story.html
    Los Angeles also spent $3 million on electric police cars they rarely use.
    https://jalopnik.com/that-fleet-of-electric-cars-the-lapd-paid-at-least-2-9-1822197230
    Making it even more embarrassing, those low- income and foreign- born Southern Californians, who Obama focused his transit utopia upon, are leading the way in buying new cars.
    “The primary reason for slumping mass transit ridership in Southern California is a dramatic spike in car ownership among lower-income and foreign-born residents, who’ve switched from taking the bus or train to driving their own vehicles, according to a study released Wednesday.
    From 2012 through 2016, Southern California lost 72 million transit riders per year, most of that centered in Los Angeles County’s urban core where more than 60 percent of the region’s transit riders live, the study said.
    “The steep rise in vehicle access among these groups that occurred as transit ridership began to fall is not direct proof, but it is a smoldering if not a smoking gun,” the study concluded.”
    https://www.dailynews.com/2018/01/31/southern-californians-youre-buying-more-cars-heres-what-that-means-to-mass-transit/
    Elisab, you claim to be a socialist, why is this happening? The leftist masses seem to not realize the proper transit they should use.

  665. lisab says:

    lisab, you claim to be a socialist, why is this happening? The leftist masses seem to not realize the proper transit they should use.
    ———————–

    i am a utopian socialist, and a follower of skinner (walden 2).

    the programs you describe are proposed by a large centralized government — that a marxist would want — which we would argue are doomed to fail.

    just by building a subway the centralized government is telling people where they will be going, because subways cannot change their routes without billions in new investment. but what if the subway does not go where the people want or need to go?

    that is not the way to build a mass transit system

  666. JC says:

    The term ‘free trade’ is a made up term so that both parties could sell the policy of outsourcing jobs.

    Calling what we have now ‘free trade’ is as absurd as the dictatorship of NK calling itself a democracy.

    The only REAL free trade is either zero tariff trade or reciprocal tariff trade. Anything else is not free trade. Period.

  667. Tina says:

    I think free trade is when we ship all jobs and production to China and Mexico.

    Jebot

  668. Tina says:

    Breaking

    oshdcaplan
    ·
    14m
    BREAKING: Reps. Mark Meadows, Jim Jordan file resolution to impeach Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein

  669. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The Reuters/Ipsos weekly tracking poll shows the Congressional Generic Ballot at D+5, down from D+9 last week.
    It also shows that 16% of Democrats approve of the Donald’s job performance.15% of Republicans disapprove.
    The PID of the poll is D+6.

    https://www.slideshare.net/IpsosPublicAffairs/reutersipsos-data-core-political-07252018

  670. Hugh says:

    M Murray. How did he do in 2016? But giving someone else a chance doesn’t necessarily mean a democrat. Fortunately they lack an appealing candidate

  671. Hugh says:

    Actually messy. The judge has been a naysayer against trump for months. He could just as easily be on cnn

  672. lisab says:

    Connecticut official slammed for taking a knee to protest Trump during pledge

  673. lisab says:

    House Republicans introduce articles of impeachment against Rosenstein

  674. Cash Cow TM says:

    The House race moved from “leans Republican” to “toss up.”

    Cow was referring to the WV CD3 race–open seat being vacated by Rep. Evan Jenkins.

  675. Messy says:

    687. a link. http://time.com/5349251/rod-rosenstein-gop-articles-of-impeachment/

    This is going to be fun! But i don’t think it’ll get anywhere….

  676. jason says:

    jason STILL ignoring the Kudlow interview from 2 months ago where he stated that the aim of the Trump admin was to have tariffs reduced/gotten rid of across the board.”

    Right because that is complete BS.

    The idea that tariffs are an avenue to free trade is so asinine only an AFL-CIO conservative could come up with it.

    The purpose of the Trump administration is to promote economic protectionism and isolationism because they actually believe it works.

    Any other interpretation is deluded stupidity.

  677. jason says:

    The only REAL free trade is either zero tariff trade or reciprocal tariff trade. Anything else is not free trade. Period.”

    LOL.

    There could be a 30 book encyclopedia entitled “What JC doesn’t understand about free trade”

    The ignorance is appalling.

  678. jason says:

    “Liberal MSNBC journalist Chris Hayes admitted reality on Tuesday and tweeted that haranguing people about global warming is a “ratings killer.” This is the same man who once starred in an ad where he biked to work in order to save the planet. Now, he can’t be bothered.”

    Don’t worry Chris.

    The government will pay MSNBC to run global warming stories once the Democrats get back into power.

    Pravda never worried about “ratings”.

  679. NYCmike says:

    Mike Pompeo – sounds like a person that a typical “liberal Democrat” would pick to be in his Cabinet.

  680. jason says:

    Joe Scarborough
    ?
    @JoeNBC

    Turns out the White House DID NOT edit out the Putin question, based on this updated analysis of the audio and video feeds by the WPost”

    Still waiting for Messy and Paul to fess up.

  681. jason says:

    Wilbur Ross

    Sounds like someone an AFL-CIO conservative and a protectionist and isolationist would pick for his cabinet.

  682. jason says:

    “Turkey is a long time ally and we should strive to keep it that way.”

    -Of course we should.”

    Sometimes NYC shows flashes of understanding but then I guess the brain cells just can’t sustain it.

  683. jason says:

    Just for fun…. a HHR poll.

    Will trump leave office in:
    2021
    2025
    Sometime after 2025″

    Just for fun… an HHR polls

    Paul is:

    1) A brainwashed Marxist moron

    2) A brainwashed Stalinist moron

    3) Both

  684. JC says:

    Welp…

    Asian stocks inch up after Trump, Juncker pledge cuts to trade barriers

    SHANGHAI (Reuters) – Asian stocks edged higher on Thursday, taking comfort from gains on Wall Street after U.S. President Donald Trump and European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker agreed to work toward eliminating trade barriers on industrial goods.

    In a news conference following a meeting between the two leaders on Wednesday, Trump said he and Juncker had agreed to work to lower industrial tariffs on both sides and to increase European imports of liquefied natural gas and soybeans from the United States, among other measures.

    Wow. So when the largest economy in the world threatens tariffs due to unfair trade practices, the smaller countries – which we could economically crush like a big – suddenly become a lot more palettable.

    Who would of thunk.

  685. jason says:

    “oh well, he also still brings up 54% of Trump’s political donations as well”

    Don’t tell me…

    The “Republican” candidate’s contributions were 54% to Democrats? Chuck Schumer, Hillary, Harry Reid, DNSC?

    Nahhh….

  686. jason says:

    What tariffs really mean, forget AFL-CIO conservative hype

    IBD:

    “President Trump genuinely believes that his steel and aluminum tariffs will save thousands of blue-collar jobs. And we know from our interactions with him that he truly cares about these workers in Pennsylvania, Ohio and other Rust Belt states. We do, too, and we don’t want factories to shut down. But even if tariffs save every one of the 140,000 or so steel jobs in America, it puts at risk 5 million manufacturing jobs and related jobs in industries that use steel. These producers now have to compete in hypercompetitive international markets using steel that is 20% above the world price and aluminum that is 7% to 10% above the price paid by our foreign rivals.

    In other words, steel and aluminum may win in the short term, but the steel and aluminum users and consumers lose. In fact, tariff hikes are really tax hikes.

    Some of those 5 million jobs will be put in harm’s way. And if they sell less to foreigners, the trade deficit goes up, not down. Since so many of the things Americans consumers buy today are made of steel or aluminum, a 25% steel tariff and 10% aluminum tariff may get passed on to consumers at the cash register. This is a regressive tax on low-income families.

    Trump should also examine the historical record on tariffs, because they have almost never worked as intended and almost always delivered an unhappy ending.”

  687. Paul says:

    No apologizing, Jason Bitch.
    Not in the age of Trump.

  688. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Two San Francisco supervisors are now trying to ban employers from providing their employees free lunches. It hurts the restaurant industry:

    “One of the many perks of working for most tech firms is the free food for employees. Now, San Francisco is considering banning the so-called corporate cafeterias, arguing they are hurting smaller, local shops and restaurants.

    Two San Francisco Board of Supervisors introduced a ban Tuesday for any new business coming to the city. An ordinance that puts the city at odds with an industry its worked hard to attract, high tech companies.

    “A lot of people who rely on the benefit aren’t necessarily highly compensated engineers and it’s something that a lot of tech workers depend on,” said Sam Schneidman who works in San Francisco.

    Supervisor Ahsha Safia says that within the past six years, 51 corporate cafes have opened in the city, offering many high tech workers breakfast, lunch and even dinner on the company dime, inside the company office.

    Something that’s hit smaller, local business and restaurants.

    “The backbone of any vibrant strong city is our small business, our restaurants, our cafes, our locally owned businesses,” Safia said.

    Supervisor Aaron Peskin along with Safia are cosponsoring a ban on corporate cafes for new businesses coming into the city, encouraging workers to go outside and frequent local businesses.”

    What is really killing the San Francisco business community is the massive homeless population, who dump trash and defecate in the streets. Don’t expect the politically correct leftists in San Francisco to address that problem.

  689. jason says:

    No apologizing, Jason Bitch.
    Not in the age of Trump.”

    No problem, I know you are just a little Marxist turd with not enough character to admit you were wrong.

  690. jason says:

    upervisor Aaron Peskin along with Safia are cosponsoring a ban on corporate cafes for new businesses coming into the city, encouraging workers to go outside and frequent local businesses.”

    Yes this will work.

    The Central Kommittee knows where you should go to lunch and you will like it.

  691. Mr.Vito says:

    702 was written by Kudlow…

  692. Mr.Vito says:

    In March…

  693. Mr.Vito says:

    So apparently he has come to a different realization since then about the administrations tariff plans…

  694. JC says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    July 26, 2018 at 12:14 am
    So apparently he has come to a different realization since then about the administrations tariff plans…
    ————————

    His paycheck provider has changed.

  695. lisab says:

    REVEALED: Trump’s ex-lawyer Cohen secretly recorded conversation with CNN anchor Chris Cuomo and admitted arranging the Stormy Daniels hush money pay off ‘on my own’

    Michael Cohen secretly recorded his conversation with CNN anchor Chris Cuomo, where he admitted arranging the Stormy Daniels $150,000 pay off
    ‘I did it on my own,’ Cohen said of the payment in the two-hour discussion

    News of the secret recording comes after it was revealed Cohen also made secret audio tapes of his conversations with former client, President Trump

    Recording captured conversation about plans to buy ex-Playboy model Karen McDougal’s story about her alleged affair with Trump, from American Media

    Trump has denied that he was aware of Cohen’s payment to Stormy for her story

  696. DW says:

    New poll of CA_24 shows the race there almost dead even. Lets see if Toupee Cook will rush right out and change it from Safe D to Tossup…

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ——————————————————————————-
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | RRH | Kos | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ——————————————————————————-
    NC_08 R | 150 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    OH_15 R | 151 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    PA_14* D | 152 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    IN_09 R | 153 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    WA_03 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    CA_22 R | 155 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 — 49/41 (PPP)
    OH_07 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    OH_10 R | 157 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    NY_23 R | 158 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Ln R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    AZ_06 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    AZ_08 R | 160 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    TX_31 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    CO_03 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    SC_01 R | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    MO_02 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 166 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    PA_16 R | 167 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 — 48/43 (PPP)
    IN_02 R | 168 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    FL_06* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    OH_14 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    WI_06 R | 174 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    FL_25 R | 175 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 46/39 (St. Pete)
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    TX_21* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_18 R | 180 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    NY_24 R | 181 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | 3.7 — 49/37 (PPP)
    IL_14 R | 183 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 — 45/41 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 184 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    CA_21 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    VA_05 R | 186 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    IL_13 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NY_01 R | 188 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.4 —
    GA_06* R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.1 —
    AR_02 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | 2.8 — 47/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 191 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 — 48/44 (D-Int.) | 42/42 (GSG-D)
    WA_05 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 193 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    NC_13 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.5 — 43/40 (PPP) | 40/35 (Civitas)
    OH_01 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.2 — 43/42 (PPP)
    VA_02 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.2 — 48/42 (PPP)
    WV_03* R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Lk R | 2.2 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    MT_01 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 2.2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NM_02* R | 199 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    ME_02 R | 200 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 — 45/35
    TX_32 R | 201 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 —
    UT_04 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 — 47/43 | 45/39 (Salt Lake Trib.)
    KS_03 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 —
    IA_03 R | 204 | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.4 — 44/43 (PPP) | 41/45 (D-Int.)
    MI_08 R | 205 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/41 (PPP)
    VA_07 R | 206 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 —
    WI_01* R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 —
    OH_12* R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.2 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics) | 48/43 (D-Int.)
    NE_02 R | 209 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.2 —
    KY_06 R | 210 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 —
    KS_02* R | 211 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    IL_06 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 45/44 (Garin-Hart-Yang-D)
    TX_07 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 214 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 49/42
    CA_45 R | 215 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.8 — 43/46 (PPP)
    IL_12 R | 216 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 0.8 — 44/39 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 0.8 — 43/46 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    NJ_07 R | 218 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.7 — 41/42 (PPP) | 45/47 (GQR-D)
    NC_09* R | 217 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.7 — 42/37 (PPP) | 36/43 (Civitas) | 43/44 (D-Int)
    NY_19 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.4 — 41/43 (PPP)
    TX_23 R | 215 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 44/43 (PPP)
    IA_01 R | 214 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    WA_08* R | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.2 — 51/45
    CA_10 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 49/42 (Srat. 360-D) | 45/40 (GSG-D)
    CA_48 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/44 (D-Internal) | 45/47 (Monmouth)
    CO_06 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/47 (D-Int)
    NY_22 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/40 (DCCC-D)
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    PA_17 R | 202 | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.2 — 39/51 (Monmouth)
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.2 — 42/45 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 200 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.7 —
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -1 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    VA_10 R | 198 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.4 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    CA_49* R | 197 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 — 41/44 (Feldman) | 46/43 (R-Int)
    NH_01* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | -1.5 —
    AZ_02* R | 195 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.5 —
    NV_03* D | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -2.5 —
    NV_04* D | 192 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.5 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.7 —
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.1 —
    MN_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.4 —
    PA_08 D | 188 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.4 —
    NJ_05 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    PA_06* R | 186 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    CA_07 D | 185 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.2 —
    NJ_02* R | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    CT_05* D | 183 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | Ln D | -4.2 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    AZ_09* D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 — 46/47 (Olive Tree St.)
    NY_18 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 —
    FL_13 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.4 —
    IA_02 D | 175 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —
    NY_25 D | 174 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —

    *indicates open seat

  697. Mr.Vito says:

    I doubt Kudlow is concerned with paychecks.

  698. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    John James takes the lead against Pensler in the MI Senate GOP primary. If JJ makes it through the primary, he will give “Little Debbie” Stabenow a competitive race. He’s my 2018 long, long shot.

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/07/26/senate-poll-republican-michigan/829867002/

  699. Bitterlaw says:

    Happy birthday, Wes.

    GFY

  700. Wes says:

    Well, thanks, Bitter.

    It’s not going to happen, Sheeple. Stabenow is an obese slob with all the charisma of a lamprey, but she never loses. She won’t lose this time either.

  701. Human Question says:

    Does “GFY” stand for “good for you”?

  702. Wes says:

    No, HQ. Bitterlaw was telling me I need to perform a physical impossibility on myself.

  703. jason says:

    Does “GFY” stand for “good for you”?”

    Only when I say it.

  704. DW says:

    Still nothing from Cook–CA_24 is still Solid D.

  705. jason says:

    702 was written by Kudlow…”

    Actually it was co-authored by Kudlow with Arthur Laffer and Stephen Moore.

    And the article ends with this, which I totally agree with.

    “Trump should continue to make American producers more competitive in global markets with tax-, regulatory-, energy-, and other pro-America-policy changes that bring jobs and capital back to the United States. This is happening at a furious pace right now. Almost overnight, Trump has made America the best and most reliable place in the world to invest. But steel and aluminum import tariffs work decisively against this goal.

    In the early 1980s President Ronald Reagan invoked anti-dumping provisions against Japanese steel. It was one of the few decisions he later confessed he wished he hadn’t made. ?

    Trump will come to learn the same thing. We hope he does so sooner, not later.”

  706. Robbie says:

    In early October 2017, Paul Ryan and the House leadership encouraged PA House member Tim Murphy to resign from Congress after it became known he encouraged his mistress to get and abortion.

    Nine months later, would they argue the same position if someone who currently holds a much higher office was found to have done the same thing? What about the evangelical minister community?

  707. jason says:

    So apparently he has come to a different realization since then about the administrations tariff plans”

    Perhaps, but I doubt he would change his views in 2 months.

    I think he is in a minority position and is toeing the administration line because of loyalty or because he thinks he could still have some pro free trade influence.

    Trump and Ross and Navarro are all hard core protectionists, so Kudlow is definitely outgunned.

    Here is how the Weekly Standard, who calls Navarro the “protectionist’s protectionist” analyzes it like this:

    “Navarro believes himself to be the Trump-whisperer on matters of trade and tariffs—though he puts it differently in public. The tariff proposal “is the president’s vision,” he said on Bloomberg TV on March 7. “My function, really, as an economist is to try to provide the underlying analytics that confirm his intuition. And his intuition is always right in these matters.”

    But it may not be that simple. On March 14, the White House confirmed that Cohn’s replacement was not another protectionist but Larry Kudlow, a TV journalist and free-market advocate. Kudlow, who like Navarro was an economic adviser to the Trump campaign, had just days earlier coauthored an op-ed with Stephen Moore, urging Trump to reconsider the steel tariffs. Kudlow is not entirely unsympathetic to Navarro’s broad argument about bad Chinese practices—and even makes a brief appearance in Death by China—but he is no protectionist.

    Moore, who also advised the Trump campaign, said Kudlow and Navarro are friendly and don’t view each other as adversaries. When Kudlow appeared on CNBC hours after the news of his appointment broke, he offered an acknowledgment of his future White House colleague’s new status. “In my mind, Peter Navarro is an equal,” said Kudlow.

    For the time being, though, Navarro may be first among equals when it comes to crafting trade policy. According to Politico, when Trump was presented in a cabinet meeting in early March with a $30 billion tariff package against Chinese imports, he told U.S. trade representative Robert Lighthizer to go bigger. Navarro couldn’t have said it better himself.”

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/michael-warren/the-protectionists-protectionist

  708. Mr.Vito says:

    He doesnt have to change his views on the issues to come to a different understanding of how someone else views the issues.

  709. jason says:

    I think Lanny Davis has told Cohen that Trump is his get out of jail card.

    If that tape is the best he has, he has nothing.

    If that tape was a warning, look I have something more incriminating, here is my first salvo, maybe its a good strategy.

    In any case, I don’t see how any of this would fall under the IC mandate.

  710. jason says:

    He doesnt have to change his views on the issues to come to a different understanding of how someone else views the issues.”

    Too deep for me. I interpret that as “he now understands where Trump is coming from”.

    But I am sure he thinks he knows a lot more about economics and the negative effects of tariffs than Trump does.

    I think he knows that Trump, Navarro and Ross are committed protectionists, and he is trying to minimize the damage.

    At least that is what I hope he is doing. The idea that he has now become an economic isolationist and protectionist himself is too depressing to contemplate.

  711. Mr.Vito says:

    If the news is correct that the EU and US are going to remove barriers to trade, then I would say Kudlow is doing his job as he now understands it.

  712. jason says:

    In early October 2017, Paul Ryan and the House leadership encouraged PA House member Tim Murphy to resign from Congress after it became known he encouraged his mistress to get and abortion.

    Nine months later, would they argue the same position if someone who currently holds a much higher office was found to have done the same thing? What about the evangelical minister community?”

    Zzzzzzz….this all happened when Murphy was in office. Murphy was not only having an affair but supposedly very “pro-life. The optics were not good.

    I don’t know if this has anything to do with Trump, but if he encouraged someone to get an abortion before he was in office, especially considering that at the time he was “very pro-choice” I don’t see why anyone would care except the MSM. I doubt the evangelical community would care, Trump has appointed pro-life judges, I bet they care a lot more about that.

  713. Wes says:

    Murphy had to go, but DesJarlais is still there. Ugh.

  714. jason says:

    hen I would say Kudlow is doing his job as he now understands it.”

    I have no way of knowing how Kudlow understands his job.

    I hope he stays true to his core beliefs and fights for free trade.

  715. jason says:

    Joe Scarborough
    ?
    @JoeNBC

    Turns out the White House DID NOT edit out the Putin question, based on this updated analysis of the audio and video feeds by the WPost”

    Still waiting for Messy and Paul to fess up.”

    “No apologizing, Jason Bitch.
    Not in the age of Trump.”

    This is interesting. Paul thinks he doesn’t have to apologize for posting fake news here because its “the age of Trump”.

  716. jason says:

    Hey Bitter, what do you think?

    “Jason Bitch”

    Points?

  717. jason says:

    Messy says:
    July 25, 2018 at 5:19 pm

    oh, joy! Fox is starting to flip!!!!”

    They say politics make strange bedfellows.

    Messy and Napolitano.

    Who wouda thunk?

    I hope there is no video.

  718. jason says:

    politics make?

    More coffee pls.

  719. Tina says:

    Very surprised that abc news on the radio reported the good news that the euro drunk president gave in and we actually won.

    Abc radio.

  720. DW says:

    Still nothing from Toupee Cook. What a partisan hack. Pro-Dem candidate poll isn’t even officially out yet, and he announces in advance he is moving his ranking into the Democrat direction.

    Then a GOP friendly poll comes out for a seat he says is Safe D (but others say likely D) and all we hear from the cheap toupee is crickets.

  721. Tina says:

    Tomorrow the 2nd quarter gdp numbers are out with projections of 4 to 5 percent,

    The jebots, coup plotters, and remaining never trumpers aka the pedos, will latch onto something to try to disrupt the news.

    Will it be muh Russian? Muh interpreter? Muh notes?

  722. DW says:

    Drudge headlines:

    SHAREHOLDERS PLOT TO OUST ZUCKERBERG…
    HE LOSES $15 BILLION IN 5 MINUTES!
    INSIDERS DUMPING STOCK…
    USERS VANISH…

    …hurray! I have been anti-facebook from the start.

  723. Tina says:

    Cohen claims to have taped cuomo of cn and n,

    In the tape, Cohen admits that he paid muh Stormy on his own.

    Combo failed to note this minor important detail.

  724. Wes says:

    I never will understand why people want to live in a giant sewer like New Jersey:

    https://savejersey.com/2018/07/fox-business-host-unloads-on-sweeney-over-n-j-budget-taxes-video/

  725. DW says:

    Another foreign policy win for Trump:

    https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2018/july/turkey-lets-andrew-brunson-leave-prison-irf-ministerial.html

    An American pastor who was put into prison for being a Christian in Turkey has been released to house arrest and seems on track to be able to return to his family the USA.

    Obama would have sent the rest of his family to Turkey to be executed with him.

  726. Tina says:

    Trump has racked up,a lot of accomplishments this week.

    The release of the pastor held by the ottoman wannabe empire head.

    The huge trade win over the Euros.

  727. Tina says:

    Natalia sure gets around.

    McFaul needs to be investigated.

  728. NYCmike says:

    Trump keeps calling for a reduction of tariffs…….jason keeps calling him a “committed protectionists”…….Quechuan is a tough language to translate to….

  729. jason says:

    Trump keeps calling for a reduction of tariffs”

    LOL

    While imposing blanket tariffs everywhere?

    F–king for virginity!!

  730. Paul says:

    Tinfoil Tina you need to get out of the crazy conspiracy world now and then.

  731. jason says:

    Some more facts for NYC:

    “As the R Street Institute think tank reminds us, “According to 2015 U.S. Census data, steel mills employ about 140,000 Americans, while steel-consuming industries, including automakers and other manufacturers who rely on imported steel, employ more than 5 million. It is estimated that nearly 200,000 jobs and $4 billion in wages were lost during the 18 months during 2002 and 2003 that President George W. Bush imposed tariffs on imported steel …”

    Of course, President Trump can cite a recent study by the Commerce Department as justification for his tariffs. And Trump could plausibly argue that he has already imposed trade protection on solar panel imports and washing machines, with few obvious ill effects. At least not yet.

    Even so, the evidence against such protectionist policies is overwhelming. That evidence can be found in a report by Cato’s Scott Lincicome last summer that looked at the long, sad history of trade protectionism in America. It isn’t a pretty picture.

    Yes, some jobs are saved by protectionist moves. But at what cost? We already cited the costs of the steel tariffs under the second President Bush.

    But it isn’t only steel. Lincicome cites four studies that investigated the costs of protection in a wide variety of industries during what’s called the GATT era, stretching roughly from 1950 to 1995. Based on this research, the average economic cost to save a single job through trade protection is about $620,000, in 2017 dollars. And all told, protection leads to a net loss to U.S. consumers equal to about 1.3% of GDP, or roughly $221 billion a year in today’s money, based on a study by the Peterson Institute of International Economics.

    In short, trade protection, especially tariffs, is a very bad deal for consumers and workers. But it’s very profitable for politically connected corporations. That’s why the financial markets melted down on Thursday. Will this event mark the end of the Trump bull market? It’s too soon to tell, but it bears watching. While most stocks fell on Thursday, steel and aluminum shares had a great day. Good for them, bad for the rest of us.

    Maybe so, but what’s truly tragic is that Trump’s penchant for trade protection will in part offset the benefits to the economy from other free-market policies he has put in place, including tax cuts, deregulation, withdrawal from the Paris Accords on climate change and badly needed changes to ObamaCare.”

  732. Paul says:

    Better send McFaul to Russia so that Putin can get to the bottom of the corruption.

  733. NYCmike says:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/25/tariffs-greatest-tweets-trump-before-meeting-juncker-eu

    -More fake news…..Trump, OBVIOUSLY, would NEVER say such a thing.

    “With a bust of Winston Churchill looking over his shoulder, Trump said he agreed. “If we could have no tariffs and no barriers and no subsidies, the United States would be extremely pleased … We want reciprocal. So whether it’s with European Union or others, it has to be reciprocal in nature at a minimum. We’re working on that and I think we’re making tremendous strides.””

  734. NYCmike says:

    “Donald Trump has begun trade talks with top European Union officials at the White House, suggesting that the US would be “pleased” if all tariffs, barriers and subsidies could be scrapped.”

    -I don’t believe him…..jason knows him much better than anyone else……jason also knew he was a “liberal Democrat”…….

  735. jason says:

    “Trump is calling for a reduction of tariffs”

    NYC has just posted his entry for fake post of the year.

  736. NYCmike says:

    We know jason was correct about Trump, because his administration has acted just like Hillary’s would have, his judicial picks are even more activist than Obama’s, and he has really increased the number of regulations on business, all for the good of The People.

  737. jason says:

    ggesting that the US would be “pleased” if all tariffs, barriers and subsidies could be scrapped.”

    Zzzzzzz…

    So far the only protectionist and isolationist AFL-CIO conservative that actually admitted being so was mnw.

    All the protectionist and isolationist AFL-CIO conservatives are for “fair trade”, remember?

  738. Paul says:

    Tina’s crap about McFaul and Veselnitskaya is a completely bogus story from infowars being repackaged through Gateway pundit.

  739. jason says:

    We know jason was correct about Trump,”

    I was.

    I consistently posted throughout the campaign that I thought Trump would be much better on deregulation, judicial picks, global warming, energy.

    I said his trade policies and foreign policy would suck.

    I was right about trade, partially right about foreign policy. I support his NK and Russia policy.

    Now GFY.

  740. Tina says:

    Coree, how is the bong?

  741. Tina says:

    Deregulation?

    He has lead one of the largest deregulation cuts since Reagan.

    Some say just as much, some say a bit more.

  742. jason says:

    “If we could have no tariffs and no barriers and no subsidies, the United States would be extremely pleased”

    “So now let me take this opportunity to announce record blanket tariffs that will translate into a huge tax hike on those who can least afford it.

    Thank you very much.

    Oh, and yes, it will protect a few jobs at a cost of $ 640,000 each.”

  743. Tina says:

    Jason, I misread your post. Thought you indicated he would not cut regs.

  744. Paul says:

    Veselnitskaya’s front row seat was obtained for her by Trump Florida campaign chair.
    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/russian-lawyer-obtained-hill-hearing-seat-florida-trump/story?id=48661448

  745. jason says:

    “Tina’s crap about McFaul and Veselnitskaya is a completely bogus story from infowars being repackaged through Gateway pundit.”

    Similar to the crap you posted yesterday repackaged through Rachel Madcow?

  746. jason says:

    Trump has been excellent on deregulation.

  747. Paul says:

    Yes, Moron Jason, it is similar. However her post has been proven bogus for over a year.

    Mine was a legitimate question that was later answered appropriately. I do not apologize for asking the question regarding why the question was missing.

  748. jason says:

    Paul, would you happen to have a vacant apt you could donate for the Marxist Utopia?

    Your new hero tweeted:

    “New York City is experiencing the highest rate of homelessness since the Great Depression. For every 1 person experiencing homelessness here, there are ~3 vacant apartments. Inequality is a crisis, and a bold, 21st-century effort on poverty must advance.”

  749. Tina says:

    The picture speaks for itself.

    She was seated rig behind the then us ambassador to Russia, McFaul.

    She got a “special visa” to remain in the country, so that she can appear at trump tower for a meeting,

    Her access gets a further back door into trump tower.

    Rodgers moves the trump transition team out of trump tower for a reason,

  750. jason says:

    “However her post has been proven bogus for over a year.”

    Paul only believes in very fresh fake news.

  751. Paul says:

    Tinfoil Tina,
    Are you stupid or what?

  752. jason says:

    I do not apologize for asking the question regarding why the question was missing.”

    Except you are a hypocrite liar who never asked that question.

    Here is what you posted:

    Is it alright for the White House to alter BOTH the official transcript AND official video to erase a question that they don’t like?”

    Nothing was erased. It was fake news. Complete fabrication.

    And you are still doubling down on the lie.

  753. jason says:

    Hey Tina, Paul is too much of an idiot to come up with his own st-ff, so he copies “tinfoil” from Amoral Scumbag.

  754. Tina says:

    Or it’s the same poster.

    Again, the picture speaks for itself.

  755. Tina says:

    Maggie the Hack is out with a story that Fuhrer Mukehead is investigating Trump for obstruction because of his tweets.

    Yeah, he would advertise his obstruction,

    Lol.

  756. jason says:

    I read the article…

    It begged “where’s the beef”?

  757. jason says:

    The article says Mueller needs to interview Trump to determine whether there was obstruction.

  758. DW says:

    Blanken’s ship sunk by WV’s SoS

  759. Tina says:

    The president cannot obstruct a counterintelligence investigation.

    He is a customer of that type of information,

    Redactsteins memo to Fuhrer Mulehead, charging him this with hunt, demonstrates clearly that they were continuing the corrupt counterintelligence investigation. There was no criminal matter outlined as part of redactsteins appointment,

  760. Tina says:

    Trump should continue to ignore Fuhrer Mulehead.

    Pretty clear that the basis to continue the counterintelligence investigation, as outlined in redactsteins appointment documents, as well as the original investigation was fraudulent and based on a political witch hunt.

  761. jason says:

    I am sure Blakenship will sue to continue to be a deadender trying to elect Manchin.

  762. Mr.Vito says:

    “Q: How much are you willing to spend? Unlimited?

    “Yes. It’s always that way. It’s whatever it takes to win,” said Blankenship.”

    I guess he should have spent more in the primary.

  763. DW says:

    If Blankenship isn’t outright working for Manchin, then Manchin should at least give him some money for his trouble.

    But a write-in campaign isn’t going to do much. Few will show up saying, “I was going vote Morrisey today, but wow, it is just so compelling to throw my vote away trying to spell B-l-a-n-k-e-n-s-h-I-p”

  764. jason says:

    Now Blankenship will appeal… the circus just helps Manchin.

    Thanks, deadenders.

  765. jason says:

    t’s whatever it takes to win,” said Blankenship.”’

    Sad.

    Just think how many good uses that money could go to, like some endowed chairs at WV colleges to promote entrepreneurship and free enterprise.

  766. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/trumps-deal-with-the-eu-is-democrat-nightmare/

    “The Dems and their media lackeys are not going to have the tariff issue to kick around anymore. Turns out it was what anyone with the proverbial IQ in triple digits knew it was — a bargaining chip.”

    🙂

    Since nothing is signed, I hope that this momentum continues, and the tariffs are set aside, leaving jason shouting at his windmills…….order restored.

  767. Tina says:

    The eu deal is a winner.

    The jebots are depressed about it.

    As I mentioned, the abc radio was touting it,

    And the financial press, which is better than cn and n types, liked it.

  768. Todd McCain says:

    Manchin was always going to be the hardest to beat anyway just because of his personal brand in the state. I see us taking down Heitkamp, Nelson and Donnelly well before Manchin.

  769. NYCmike says:

    Todd,

    jason just needs to get his quota of “deadenders” in for the day.

  770. Blobbie says:

    What would you guys think if a Dem troll encouraged his mistress to get an abortion?

  771. NYCmike says:

    Why was six scared of seven?

    Because 7 8 9!

  772. NYCmike says:

    Dang you, Blobbie!

  773. dblaikie says:

    Why Shep Smith survives on the Fox News Network is a mystery to me. Number one, he pretends to be an unbiased journalist, but that is laughable. But I can put up with that. What bugs me is that he never has anyone on his show that would take issue with his view of the news. He is a coward. Most likely he couldn’t argue his way out of paper bag.

    Let me be clear, I believe folks like Chris Wallace and Bret Baier are fine journalists who try to be objective. In comparison to them Shep a joke.

  774. Tina says:

    Looks like there is soon to be a new trade deal between Mexico and the US.

    This leaves Justin Eyebrow Trudedope without any deal.

  775. Robbie says:

    Everything’s fine. Nothing to see here. MAGA is great.

    Taniel
    @Taniel

    Scott Walker trails by 13% in re-election bid as Wisconsin Governor in new NBC poll (!), and just 34% say he deserves re-election. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/scott-walker-other-gop-candidates-key-midwest-states-trail-democratic-n895001

  776. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    July 26, 2018 at 10:12 am
    I think Lanny Davis has told Cohen that Trump is his get out of jail card.
    If that tape is the best he has, he has nothing.
    If that tape was a warning, look I have something more incriminating, here is my first salvo, maybe its a good strategy.
    In any case, I don’t see how any of this would fall under the IC mandate.

    – Pains me to agree with Jason fraud, but I think he’s right about Cohen firing a warning shot.

    Cohen’s actions strike me as someone who is still angling for a pardon.

    Just as importantly, the Southern District of New York is investigating Cohen, not Mueller.

  777. Waingro says:

    Stick these in the garbage dumpster.

    Mark Murray
    ?Verified account @mmurraypolitics

    GOV numbers, per new NBC/Marist polls:

    — MI: Whitmer (D) 47%, Schuette (R) 38%
    — MN: Walz (D) 51%, Pawlenty (R) 40%; Swanson (D) 51%, Pawlenty (R) 40%
    — WI: Evers (D) 54%, Walker 41% (R)

    July 15-19, RVs

  778. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    July 26, 2018 at 3:56 pm
    Why Shep Smith survives on the Fox News Network is a mystery to me. Number one, he pretends to be an unbiased journalist, but that is laughable. But I can put up with that. What bugs me is that he never has anyone on his show that would take issue with his view of the news. He is a coward. Most likely he couldn’t argue his way out of paper bag.
    Let me be clear, I believe folks like Chris Wallace and Bret Baier are fine journalists who try to be objective. In comparison to them Shep a joke.

    – How dare Shep Smith not have on guests who disagree with him like *squints at notes* Sean Hannity.

  779. Tina says:

    Jim Jordan to run for House Speaker.

    A big ugrade over Paulo Ryan.

  780. Waingro says:

    Marquette had Walker UP 4 points just over a month a go. I’m not buying these Marist polls for a second.

  781. Robbie says:

    So the consensus at HHR, a forum dominated by conservative Republicans, is it’s no big deal for Trump if he paid a woman during the 2016 campaign to get an abortion. OK.

    Another question. If the fabled Apprentice outtakes of Trump repeatedly using the n-word exist and they become public, should that end his presidency? I don’t think the tape exists, otherwise we’d have heard it, but I’m genuinely interested to know how the regulars in this forum would react. Within six of hours of the Access Hollywood tapes, the unanimous consensus of this forum was Trump needed to be booted from the ticket for comments made in 2005, but not heard until 2016.

    I think the n-word tape would force Trump to resign, but my guess is most here would not view it the same way.

  782. dblaikie says:

    Robbie, only you would defend Shep. And by the way Hannity makes no pretense about his politics. So Wormtongue, climb back into your hole.

  783. Tina says:

    Her Shepness and Geraldine tried to start a riot in New Orleans Silverdome.

    Hurricane Katrina,

    He is only employed there as a quota.

    And Faux is sheot now given the young leftists in charge.

    When Bill Shine left, it really got worse,

  784. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    July 26, 2018 at 5:22 pm
    Marquette had Walker UP 4 points just over a month a go. I’m not buying these Marist polls for a second.

    – I’m not buying a 13 point deficit either, but there has been a noticeable polling swoon for Republicans lately. And if this is a wave as I suspect, you’d have to believe Walker is in trouble. That doesn’t mean he’s toast, just in a tough spot if Trump and Republican polling doesn’t improve.

  785. Tina says:

    OAN is better than Faux,

  786. Tina says:

    Time for Fuhrer Mulehead to indict more Russian bots tomorrow.

    The Jebot losahs need something given the bad week.

  787. Redmen4ever says:

    Somebody’s polls are skewed. They are wildly apart from each and the differences among poll-takers,

    Now, if you’re 538, you call say the wacky polls suffer “house effects,” and adjust them to the good ones. The problem is, which are the good one. An old joke in marketing is that half of advertising is a big waste, the only problem is nobody knows which half.

    But, here’s what I say: if Marist is wrong about the Governor’s race, it is wrong about the Senate race as well. Republicans may have more pick-up opportunities than they can fund.

    Conversely, let’s hope the Democrats go after mirages in Georgia and Texas.

  788. Tina says:

    http://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/07/26/fusion-gps-dossier-buzzfeed-lawsuit/?__twitter_impression=true

    Breaking, this is a biggie, fusion gps must disclose its media contacts regarding the fake dossier.

  789. Redmen4ever says:

    … the differences among poll-takers are persistent.

  790. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    July 26, 2018 at 5:27 pm
    Robbie, only you would defend Shep. And by the way Hannity makes no pretense about his politics. So Wormtongue, climb back into your hole.

    – I don’t care one way or another about Shep Smith, but it does make me laugh to see how upset you get about him since he doesn’t say lots of positive things about Donnie.

    Also, I think my favorite Trumpers are the moral majority Christian conservatives who think Trump is really one of them.

  791. Redmen4ever says:

    why was 7 afraid of 14?

    because 7 8 catorce!

  792. Redmen4ever says:

    sorry … I think the AI needs to be re-calibrated.

  793. DW says:

    I am not at all pleased with Trump’s immorality. But the options last election were Trump with his immorality and Clinton with her immorality.

    Trump and his immorality has given us Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.

    Clinton and her immorality would have given us Ginsburg 2.0 and Ginsburg 3.0.

    Trump and his immorality has given us a tax cut.

    Clinton and her immorality would have given us a huge RISE in taxes.

    Trump and his immorality has made great reductions in regulations.

    Clinton and her immorality would have increased government regulations.

    Trump and his immorality has brought home Americans wrongly imprisoned from around the world.

    Clinton and her immorality would have looked away and said ‘what difference does it make!’

    So I am not going to play your fantasy game of pretending there was another option.

  794. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    July 26, 2018 at 5:32 pm
    OAN is better than Faux,

    – OAN is certainly more open about their agenda of unabashed Trump support. FoxNews sprinkles in a few non pro-Trump voices just to throw people off their scent.

  795. dblaikie says:

    Thanks for granting my point! And my favorite troll is you who, sort of like of MD of old, believe that you already know what people believe and think.

    And by the way, please keep on taking as Gospel these media polls. Oh but I forgot, if the GOP keeps the house will you have the courage to come on this site? If the GOP doesn’t keep it I pledge I will come HHR and take my medicine.

  796. Tina says:

    John Cardillo
    ?
    @johncardillo
    #Mueller’s scope apparently includes punishing @realDonaldTrump for tweeting mean things about Mueller’s friends.

    This is funny,

  797. Waingro says:

    Marist Wisconsin poll is D+8 with 41(!)% “independents”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydx4UalHzmk

    Marquette had a an almost even PID just last month. Total Garbage City!

  798. Tina says:

    Keep in mind that Mueller is personally profiting from this investigation and it is in his best financial interests to keep it going for as long as possible. pic.twitter.com/JLXp8T9vrS

    — Ryan Saavedra ?? (@RealSaavedra) July 26, 2018

    Time for the House Rs to choke off the funding,

  799. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    July 26, 2018 at 5:43 pm
    I am not at all pleased with Trump’s immorality. But the options last election were Trump with his immorality and Clinton with her immorality.
    Trump and his immorality has given us Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.
    Clinton and her immorality would have given us Ginsburg 2.0 and Ginsburg 3.0.
    Trump and his immorality has given us a tax cut.
    Clinton and her immorality would have given us a huge RISE in taxes.
    Trump and his immorality has made great reductions in regulations.
    Clinton and her immorality would have increased government regulations.
    Trump and his immorality has brought home Americans wrongly imprisoned from around the world.
    Clinton and her immorality would have looked away and said ‘what difference does it make!’
    So I am not going to play your fantasy game of pretending there was another option.

    – There’s nothing wrong with what you wrote. I understand the argument and it was an argument a lot of people used in 2016. I’d argue, though, you would have gotten every positive thing you mentioned from Pence, but without the drama.

    It’s no longer 2016 though and Clinton will not be on the ballot in 2020. I suspect lots of people will once again say they don’t approve of Trump’s behavior and he’s still better than Democrat nominee XXX. That’s fine too. I won’t agree with it, but it will be the reason many use.

    The question though is whether enough people will want to sign up for another four years of this. That’s why I think a primary challenge could have some resonance. I think there will be a sizable group of Republicans by 2020 who say, “We like the policies of Trump, but we’re not wild about voting for him again”. The size of that group will determine if someone can credibly challenge Trump.

  800. NYCmike says:

    “Looks like there is soon to be a new trade deal between Mexico and the US.”

    -How exactly does this work? Wasn’t NAFTA voted on as a treaty?

  801. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    July 26, 2018 at 5:46 pm
    Thanks for granting my point! And my favorite troll is you who, sort of like of MD of old, believe that you already know what people believe and think.
    And by the way, please keep on taking as Gospel these media polls. Oh but I forgot, if the GOP keeps the house will you have the courage to come on this site? If the GOP doesn’t keep it I pledge I will come HHR and take my medicine.

    – I’ve been part of this forum since 2004. I’m not going anywhere, much to the dismay of many.

  802. DW says:

    But Pence wasn’t on the ballot in the POTUS slot. Trump was. The options were the immoral Trump or the immoral Clinton. This is why many evangelicals went ahead and voted Trump. Morality wasn’t an option on the ballot, so they had to base vote on other factors, like the ones I listed.

  803. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    July 26, 2018 at 5:46 pm
    Marist Wisconsin poll is D+8 with 41(!)% “independents”.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydx4UalHzmk
    Marquette had a an almost even PID just last month. Total Garbage City!

    – Maybe, but you have to consider the possibility that some Republicans, who are not happy about the state of the party, are classifying themselves as Independents. And going back to my point, this what usually happens in a wave year.

  804. Tina says:

    We need the pro pedo, real cons.

    Cause muh morals.

  805. lisab says:

    the moral majority Christian conservatives who think Trump is really one of them.
    —————–

    does any christian conservative on hhr think trump is one of them?

    actually i think the reason none of wobble’s scandals stick is because his supporters don’t think of him as one of them, they just think he is the only gop politician who actually means some of what he says duriung the campaign

  806. Tina says:

    Tump was the only one who,could win.

    Flub would have flopped given his poor performance in the primariess. Totally unelectable and I would have stayed home, rather than vote R.

  807. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    July 26, 2018 at 5:59 pm
    But Pence wasn’t on the ballot in the POTUS slot. Trump was. The options were the immoral Trump or the immoral Clinton. This is why many evangelicals went ahead and voted Trump. Morality wasn’t an option on the ballot, so they had to base vote on other factors, like the ones I listed.

    – I’m not making the backward looking case. At least in the here and now, the option is no longer Trump or Clinton. If things go off the rails (unlikely), it’s Trump or Pence.

    Looking forward, if morality and other issues matters as most suggest they still do and another viable option is there in the primary (Haley maybe), does Trump still get the support?

  808. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    July 26, 2018 at 6:02 pm
    the moral majority Christian conservatives who think Trump is really one of them.
    —————–
    does any christian conservative on hhr think trump is one of them?
    actually i think the reason none of wobble’s scandals stick is because his supporters don’t think of him as one of them, they just think he is the only gop politician who actually means some of what he says duriung the campaign

    – It’s probably because all of the other choices were gay as you suggested in 2016.

  809. Waingro says:

    Great thread by this guy completely trashing the Marist polls. Essentially it sounds like they sued the same exact party weighting scheme for all 3 states they polled.

    That’s a HUGE red flag that they are using bad data and a terrible re-weighting scheme.

    https://twitter.com/ltthompso/status/1022594506879848448

  810. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    July 26, 2018 at 6:15 pm
    Great thread by this guy completely trashing the Marist polls. Essentially it sounds like they sued the same exact party weighting scheme for all 3 states they polled.
    That’s a HUGE red flag that they are using bad data and a terrible re-weighting scheme.
    https://twitter.com/ltthompso/status/1022594506879848448

    – Be careful. Luke Thompson did polling for Jeb Bush’s super pac Right to Rise. According to some here, that means he’s a Democrat.

  811. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Today’s NY Times story about the Trump tweets and Obstruction of Justice is old and recycled news. Here is an almost identical article in June,2017.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/trump-being-investigated-obstruction-justice-1013732

    Wash
    Dry
    Repeat

  812. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    819. “I think there will be a sizable group of Republicans by 2020 who say, “We like the policies of Trump, but we’re not wild about voting for him again”. The size of that group will determine if someone can credibly challenge Trump.”

    Trump’s approval among Republicans is at about 90%. Are Dorothy and Toto in your fantasy? Almost daily you post your shock and outrage about a Trump action, which has so far not changed the opinion of anyone on this board. If anything, I am seeing movement of independents like me towards Trump. I don’t like Trump personally, and did not vote for him in 2016, but admire the way he is disrupting the rotten status quo.

    What amazes me is how many of my liberal Democratic friends like the way Trump is disrupting things as well. I see a stronger possibility of a independent and even Democratic cross over vote for Trump in 2020; particularly if the Democrats nominate an extremist, which is likely.

    Robbie, can you name me the Democratic candidate you think will beat Trump because he/she will a cross over Republican vote.

  813. NYCmike says:

    “Looking forward, if morality and other issues matters as most suggest they still do and another viable option is there in the primary (Haley maybe), does Trump still get the support?”

    -Morality matters.

    Please let me know what immoral act Trump has committed after ascending to the office he now occupies.

  814. JC says:

    @832 SanDiegoCitizen

    Well said. Especially with the economy roaring the way it is now and the reversal of massive trade imbalances. Not to mention a disproportionate benefit of this growth is going to the rust belt states.

    Which democrat is going to beat Trump? Who is going to wrestle away the rust belt voters from his coalition?

  815. Tina says:

    Sounds like a round about way for Fuhrer Mulehead to stop or hinder trumps ability to tweet.

    It is not fair that he tweets mean things about the 1 angry ds.

  816. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    July 26, 2018 at 6:35 pm
    819. “I think there will be a sizable group of Republicans by 2020 who say, “We like the policies of Trump, but we’re not wild about voting for him again”. The size of that group will determine if someone can credibly challenge Trump.”
    Trump’s approval among Republicans is at about 90%. Are Dorothy and Toto in your fantasy?

    – Yawn.

    Poll after poll shows those who identify themselves as Republican is shrinking. That means the group is smaller than it has been. Who are the ones who are no longer identifying themselves as Republicans? People who aren’t wild about Trump. That means the group leftover is much more pro-Trump than it otherwise would be. As Harry Enten pointed out, the change means the difference between 75-80% approval vs. 90% approval. Maybe this is a foreign concept to you, but you want a growing party, not a shrinking party. Also, you’re going to need some portion of Independents to win so best to try and win them over. Trump isn’t.

    As for who can beat Trump, tell me what his approval rating is in 2020. If It’s as low as it is today, he’ll lose to whomever Democrats nominate. Incumbent presidents don’t get to run on the prospect of what their presidency might be. They have to run on the reality of what their presidency has been. And so far and despite the economy, the voters are rendering a very negative view on Trump. His manner and behavior is blotting out the strong economy.

    In November 1991, no one thought any Democrat could beat GHWB. His approval rating cratered and a candidate barely known to most Americans in February 1992 beat the president who freed Kuwait 20 months earlier. GHWB certainly tried to paint Clinton as an extremist, but the country had decided it was ready for a change.

    So if you want to bank on being able to claim the Democrat is an extremist as a way to counter Trump’s high disapproval, you better hope the country hasn’t decided it wants change.

  817. Robbie says:

    JC says:
    July 26, 2018 at 6:58 pm
    @832 SanDiegoCitizen
    Well said. Especially with the economy roaring the way it is now and the reversal of massive trade imbalances. Not to mention a disproportionate benefit of this growth is going to the rust belt states.
    Which democrat is going to beat Trump? Who is going to wrestle away the rust belt voters from his coalition?

    – I guess it’s fuzzy math that states a president with an approval rating in the low 40’s on a good day is unbeatable.

    And if the economy is roaring (which it is), why is Trump’s approval rating only 43% in the RCP average?

    I’m sure people will say the media’s unfairness is the reason Trump’s approval rating is low. OK, but if that’s the case, do you really expect the press will suddenly start being nicer to Trump in 2020?

  818. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #836- Wormtongue
    Can you cite a few polls since you said “poll after poll”? Where’s the beef?!
    Also, your guy Harry Enten today predicted a 10 seat Democrat pick-up in the 2018 Governors’ contests. How accurate was Enten in 2014?

    Wormtongue says:

    “Poll after poll shows those who identify themselves as Republican is shrinking. That means the group is smaller than it has been. Who are the ones who are no longer identifying themselves as Republicans? People who aren’t wild about Trump. That means the group leftover is much more pro-Trump than it otherwise would be. As Harry Enten pointed out, the change means the difference between 75-80% approval vs. 90% approval”

  819. dblaikie says:

    Speaking as an evangelical and pro life voter we have no illusions about Donald Trump. We understand he is a work in progress. Our community appreciates that this once pro partial birth proponent has claimed that he has changed his mind and unlike previous candidates he has backed that conversion with deeds. We are impressed that he has been pro religion and pro Israel. Because of that, despite his huge flaws that were in his past the evangelical and pro life voters (they are close but not the same) will be rock solid in the coming election. And by they this powerful voting is always under polled. In fact that is the great flaw in the current polling. Trump supporters, like me, hate polls and refuse to take part in them. So when a Gallup poll of adults shows Trump at 43% you need to add to that. How much is the question?

  820. dblaikie says:

    I hate typos: and by the way.

  821. NYCmike says:

    Robbie is hoping, really really hoping, that Republicans hold on to the House in November.

  822. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    836. “So if you want to bank on being able to claim the Democrat is an extremist as a way to counter Trump’s high disapproval, you better hope the country hasn’t decided it wants change.”

    So Robbie are you saying the country would vote for socialists Bernie Sanders or Ocasio-Cortez over Trump because they want change? Would you do so Robbie?

  823. NYCmike says:

    “So Robbie are you saying the country would vote for socialists Bernie Sanders or Ocasio-Cortez over Trump because they want change? Would you do so Robbie?”

    -Or will he just stand on the sidelines AGAIN?

  824. NYCmike says:

    Why was 8 so chubby?

  825. NYCmike says:

    Because he 845

  826. NYCmike says:

    Can you tell my youngest nephews have been sleeping over the house for the past week?

  827. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Robbie is hoping, really really hoping, that Republicans hold on to the House in November.”

    Robbie changes his tune to attack any Republican running, always claiming he is the actual last true Republican standing, and no candidate measures up to his worthiness. Infiltration is a common troll trick.

  828. Phil says:

    Well, I see Robbie’s friends at the NYT have filed paperwork under the Freedom of Information Act to see all work emails of Judge Kavanaugh’s wife in her capacity as city manager of Chevy, Chase, Md.

    Nice look. They couldn’t be bothered to show any interest in a candidate for POTUS’s emails on an illegal private server, but the wife of a SC nominee’s work emails? Yeah, they’re all over that one. Professional journalism at its finest. If you can’t get the nominee dig around and see if you can find some dirt on the wife. Classy.

  829. NYCmike says:

    Similar to Robbie, MD is also speaking about Republicans leaving the party.

    He is also blaming Trump for his healthcare premiums going up 40% this year, and 50% next year.

    Cry me a river, M(entor)D!

  830. lisab says:

    I suspect lots of people will once again say they don’t approve of Trump’s behavior and he’s still better than Democrat nominee XXX. That’s fine too. I won’t agree with it, but it will be the reason many use.
    ————————————–

    well at least he is being honest, he will think the democrat nominee is better

  831. Redmen4ever says:

    Enthusiasm is a good thing. It helps with GOTV. Both because enthusiastic voters will themselves turnout, and because they’re amenable to contributing time and money. But there’s a limit to this. In an age where every poll is, to some extent, an opt-in poll, in means you get skewed samples. The side with the enthusiasm is more inclined to be interviewed and the side with less enthusiasm to non-respond. “Non-response bias” was a bigger problem in the Literary Digest Poll of 1936 than the difference between automobile registration lists and the voting population. Re-weighting by demographics will help, but there is bias within each demographic group. For example, the whites who respond are the enthusiastic whites. There ia an enormous gap between the high quality, long interview, live caller polls and the quick and dirty robo-caller and quickie add-on Survey Monkey polls is enormous.

  832. NYCmike says:

    Just to get this straight, Robbie believes that many Republicans are turning their backs on the Party, becoming Independents, and in November, will march to the voting booth to vote for Democrats and a return to a government of higher taxes, less freedom, more regulation, weaker military, a weaponized IRS, Justice Dept, and politicized intelligence agencies, all because the reality-show personality who defeated 17 real Republicans happened to tweet too much and allegedly bedded a porn star or 2 before ever becoming President.

    GOT IT!

  833. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    So your repulsed by Trump’s immorality; so out of protest you vote for the party of Bill Clinton and Anthony Weiner. That makes sense.

  834. lisab says:

    BREAKING per WH: “A U.S. Air Force C-17 aircraft containing remains of fallen service members has departed Wonsan, North Korea … The C-17 is transferring the remains to Osan Air Base, where a formal repatriation ceremony will be held on August 1.”

  835. dblaikie says:

    Gee, I didn’t realize that the Senate was going to vote on Mrs. Kavanaugh. Will she have to answer questions in front of the Judiciary Committee?

  836. Phil says:

    Haven’t you heard? The nominee’s wife is now fair game. Democrats will probably want to know if she had anything to do with her husband’s scandalous decision to purchase baseball tickets by credit card. Democratic members of the judiciary committee and particularly Cory Booker will want to get to the bottom of it.

  837. Tina says:

    Kavanaughs wife is an issue. Even if we do not find something, we can make it up.

    -Jebot

  838. Tina says:

    Just note, we probably will get an appearance by all trolls. Something will be the latest muh outrage of the day.

    They have to quiet the gdp numbers.

  839. Tina says:

    Rudy Giuliani
    @RudyGiuliani
    ·
    6h
    Davis says in Post today Cohen did not intend to deceive. What about Cohen locking in the phones in the desk and then secretly recording the conversation with Cuomo. A Clinton-lie, no shame. The Davis PR formula is destroying Cohen. Michael needs a lawyer.

    It is sad regarding Cohen. He now claims, that he knows that trump and trump Jr. knew about the meeting with The Russian plant lady. However, Cohen has testified under perjury to two congressional inquiries stating the opposite. He also tweeted support for trump jr a week after trump jr testified.,

    Th congressional committees will now be forced to send a criminal referral to doj about this lie.

    Lanny ain’t helping him. He is not Clinton and the 1990s called and they want their brass door handles back.

  840. DW says:

    When the dirt diggers start going after the wife, it means they got nothing on the nominee. We need to get the Kavanaugh vote on the floor and get it done. I wanna see Machin and the other frauds squirm.

  841. DW says:

    GDP growth hits 4.1%, the fastest since 2014 https://t.co/HOIND8ORKI https://t.co/n6OycElqa0

    trolls hardest hit.

  842. Mr.Vito says:

    https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4754416

    Alberta man changes gender on government IDs for cheaper car insurance.

  843. mnw says:

    DW

    It also puts ANNUAL GDP growth on track for 4% this year. That hasn’t happened since Grover Cleveland left office.*

    *OK, I exaggerated a little–since Bush 41.

  844. GPO says:

    BREAKING: 9th Circuit Court overturns historic 4.1% GDP growth

  845. Phil says:

    I’m just glad the NYT and the AP are thoroughly investigating Ashley Kavanaugh. There’s not enough scrutiny on the family of judicial nominees. It’s good we have these two pillars of journalism on the case.

  846. DW says:

    Phil, now we know why NYT and AP never investigated all of Obama’s radical friends and why they never investigated all of Hillary’s shady dealings. They were too busy looking into spouses of judicial nominees.

    If there is anyone left who still believes the media is impartial…

  847. Phil says:

    DW, you mean other than Robbie?

    Probably not.

  848. Wobbles says:

    I believe the media is impartial as long as they are partial to what I think.

  849. jason says:

    NYCmike says:
    July 26, 2018 at 3:52 pm

    Todd,

    jason just needs to get his quota of “deadenders” in for the day”

    Wow, so even Blakenship is not too much of a deadender for NYC.

    But considering neither were Miller, COD, Buck, Angle, Mourdock, Moore, McDaniel… so he does get an A for consistency.

  850. jason says:

    Lanny Davis is a partisan Democrat first, lawyer second.

    Cohen should be reminded of that.

    If Cohen doesn’t think Davis would throw him under the bus to damage Trump he is sadly deluded.

  851. jason says:

    What’s the problem with Kavanaugh’s wife?

  852. jason says:

    Besides the fact that our resident shrink Corey says she hates Trump.

  853. DW says:

    BREAKING:

    Kavanaugh’s wife seen leaving a shopping mall. It is being reported that she was suspected of making purchases there, and an eyewitness is prepared to testify that CASH was seen changing hands at the checkout register. It is unclear yet as to whether or not the security camera video will be turned over to authorities and whether or not a warrant will be issued for her arrest. More updates to follow.

  854. DW says:

    actually…the link above isn’t for making false political info on a blog, it is for telling someone the election is Wednesday so they won’t show up and vote on Tuesday and that sort of thing.

  855. DW says:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ——————————————————————————-
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | RRH | Kos | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
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    OH_15 R | 151 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    PA_14* D | 152 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    IN_09 R | 153 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    WA_03 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    CA_22 R | 155 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 — 49/41 (PPP)
    OH_07 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    OH_10 R | 157 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    NY_23 R | 158 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Ln R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    AZ_06 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    AZ_08 R | 160 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    TX_31 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    CO_03 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    SC_01 R | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    MO_02 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 166 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    PA_16 R | 167 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 — 48/43 (PPP)
    IN_02 R | 168 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    FL_06* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    OH_14 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    WI_06 R | 174 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    FL_25 R | 175 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 46/39 (St. Pete)
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    TX_21* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_18 R | 180 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    NY_24 R | 181 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | 3.7 — 49/37 (PPP)
    IL_14 R | 183 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 — 45/41 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 184 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    CA_21 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    VA_05 R | 186 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    IL_13 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NY_01 R | 188 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.4 —
    GA_06* R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.1 —
    AR_02 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | 2.8 — 47/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 191 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 — 48/44 (D-Int.) | 42/42 (GSG-D)
    WA_05 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 193 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    NC_13 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.5 — 43/40 (PPP) | 40/35 (Civitas)
    OH_01 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.2 — 43/42 (PPP)
    VA_02 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.2 — 48/42 (PPP)
    WV_03* R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Lk R | 2.2 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    MT_01 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 2.2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NM_02* R | 199 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    ME_02 R | 200 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 — 45/35
    TX_32 R | 201 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 —
    UT_04 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 — 47/43 | 45/39 (Salt Lake Trib.)
    ——Robbie needs all the below to be right in his prediction————-
    KS_03 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 —
    IA_03 R | 204 | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.4 — 44/43 (PPP) | 41/45 (D-Int.)
    MI_08 R | 205 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/41 (PPP)
    VA_07 R | 206 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 —
    WI_01* R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 —
    OH_12* R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.2 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics) | 48/43 (D-Int.)
    NE_02 R | 209 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.2 —
    KY_06 R | 210 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 —
    KS_02* R | 211 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    IL_06 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 45/44 (Garin-Hart-Yang-D)
    TX_07 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 214 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 49/42
    CA_45 R | 215 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.8 — 43/46 (PPP)
    IL_12 R | 216 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 0.8 — 44/39 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 0.8 — 43/46 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    NJ_07 R | 218 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.7 — 41/42 (PPP) | 45/47 (GQR-D)
    NC_09* R | 217 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.7 — 42/37 (PPP) | 36/43 (Civitas) | 43/44 (D-Int)
    NY_19 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.4 — 41/43 (PPP)
    TX_23 R | 215 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 44/43 (PPP)
    IA_01 R | 214 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    WA_08* R | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.2 — 51/45
    CA_10 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 49/42 (Srat. 360-D) | 45/40 (GSG-D)
    CA_48 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/44 (D-Internal) | 45/47 (Monmouth)
    CO_06 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/47 (D-Int)
    NY_22 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/40 (DCCC-D)
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    PA_17 R | 202 | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.2 — 39/51 (Monmouth)
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.2 — 42/45 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 200 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.7 —
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -1 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    VA_10 R | 198 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.4 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    CA_49* R | 197 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 — 41/44 (Feldman) | 46/43 (R-Int)
    NH_01* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | -1.5 —
    AZ_02* R | 195 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.5 —
    NV_03* D | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -2.5 —
    NV_04* D | 192 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.5 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.7 —
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.1 —
    MN_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.4 —
    PA_08 D | 188 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.4 —
    NJ_05 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    PA_06* R | 186 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    CA_07 D | 185 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.2 —
    NJ_02* R | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    CT_05* D | 183 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | Ln D | -4.2 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    AZ_09* D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 — 46/47 (Olive Tree St.)
    NY_18 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 —
    FL_13 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.4 —
    IA_02 D | 175 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —
    NY_25 D | 174 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —

    *indicates open seat

  856. Chicon says:

    Jason, if some new trade deals are announced in coming weeks in which tariffs are reduced, will that be a good thing in your book? And will that be proof that Trump’s actual goal is to reduce tariffs imposed on US companies?

  857. DW says:

    I posted the dashboard too soon…Cook at it again, moving FL_15 from Likely R to Lean R. I cannot recall the last time he moved anything in the R direction. He is all in.

  858. DW says:

    Cook also moved TX_02 from Safe R to Likely R.

    Like I said, he should just move every GOP held seat to tossup or lean D and save himself some time.

  859. DW says:

    Trying to see what’s going on under Charlie’s toupee that prompted him to move TX_02 from Safe R to Likely R.

    The GOP had more total votes in the primary runoff. Its an R+11 seat. The GOP candidate has a 2-1 cash advantage.

  860. jason says:

    Senator Booker calls Kavanaugh supporters “complicit in evil”.

  861. jason says:

    Jason, if some new trade deals are announced in coming weeks in which tariffs are reduced, will that be a good thing in your book? And will that be proof that Trump’s actual goal is to reduce tariffs imposed on US companies?”

    No and no.

    Imposing tariffs and then “reducing them” is like raising prices 200% and then offering a 50% sale.

    The damage is already done. The price for obtaining any concessions is much higher than the concessions are worth.

    Tariffs are lose-lose. Nobody wins trade wars.

  862. Chicon says:

    Booker’s comments don’t seem designed to engender support from moderates and independents. Maybe their focus groups are saying that kind of thing is a good idea?

  863. lisab says:

    where are the trolls?

  864. DW says:

    Just to illustrate how little is going on under Charlie’s toupee, look at PA_16.

    Gonzales, CNN and RRH all have it Safe R, while Sabato, RPC, and Daily Kos all have it Likely R.

    In June, the Dem candidate released an internal poll showing him trailing the Republican ‘only’ 44 to 50. The Republican incumbent has almost a 4-1 cash advantage.

    What says Toupee Cook?

    Lean R.

  865. Chicon says:

    Jason, perhaps I wasn’t clear – I meant that the result would be a lowering of previous levels of tariffs, not the new higher levels.

  866. DW says:

    lisab says:
    July 27, 2018 at 11:13 am
    where are the trolls?

    In the dumpsters near Kavanaugh’s home desperately digging right next to the NYT and AP people.

  867. jason says:

    And will that be proof that Trump’s actual goal is to reduce tariffs imposed on US companies?”

    Trump has no interest in “reducing tariffs on US companies” since all trade wars do is make it MORE expensive for US companies to compete, not less.

    What he wants to do is isolate the US market so supposedly US industries will be “protected” from foreign competition, no matter how inefficient and obsolete they are.

    All this does is increase prices to US consumers and the practical effect is these “protected” industries will fall even farther behind in technology and innovation. And of course it costs jobs in other sectors, far more than any “protected” jobs.

    This is not rocket science, its been shown over and over. Trump is basically trying the same old failed policies trying to obtain a different result.

  868. jason says:

    I meant that the result would be a lowering of previous levels of tariffs, not the new higher levels.”

    I think when its all said and done, the NET result of all pluses and minuses of the trade wars will be negative.

    Trump will tout any concessions as a victory, but he will ignore the costs.

  869. jason says:

    Booker’s comments don’t seem designed to engender support from moderates and independents. Maybe their focus groups are saying that kind of thing is a good idea?”

    Maybe, but the most logical explanation is that Booker is a moron.

  870. Chicon says:

    Ok, so tariffs that are actually lower as a result of negotiations than when Trump entered office are NOT evidence that his goal was to lower tariffs? Interesting logic.

  871. jason says:

    Yahoo has a headline.

    “What would the WORLD be like without Roe vs. Wade”

    (my caps)

    It’s really come to this. Since climate change isn’t selling well, let’s try the end of Roe vs. Wade as a huge threat to the planet.

  872. jason says:

    Ok, so tariffs that are actually lower as a result of negotiations than when Trump entered office are NOT evidence that his goal was to lower tariffs? Interesting logic”

    No, what is interesting logic is the idea that increasing tariffs is a way to reduce tariffs.

    THAT is really interesting and convoluted logic by the AFL-CIO conservatives.

    We are back to f–king for virginity!

  873. Mr.Vito says:

    Well that is what is happening according to the deal, so….

  874. jason says:

    See Chicon, there is a fundamental fact in all this.

    Trump is hostile to free trade, has been for decades. To be fair to him, its not like its a secret. He ran on a protectionist and isolationist agenda, and it did help him win. The two guys with the most influence on him regarding trade, Ross and Navarro, are committed protectionists and isolationists, you would have to be completely deluded to argue that is not the case.

    So the premise that Trump, by imposing blanket tariffs, scuttling existing agreements, and starting trade wars, is interested in promoting free trade and lowering tariffs is patently ridiculous. It’s a nice marketing ploy that masks the true protectionist agenda, because “protectionism” and “trade wars” are not popular terms, but everyone is against “unfair trading practices”, “dumping”, “theft of intellectual property”, etc.

    So yeah, I don’t think we are going to win any trade wars no matter how many times we declare victory.

  875. Chicon says:

    889 – I’m not an economist, so I’m not sure what all the plusses and minuses are, especially if these new deals – if they happen – result in short-term increases in tariffs. If you know, show the math.

    For me, a long-term decrease in tariffs is a good thing. Trade wars are damaging, but so are trade wars where one side doesn’t care about pushing for lower barriers.

  876. DW says:

    The hapless Mets have won three in a row for the first time since mid-June, albeit that streak was in the middle of a 3-11 stretch.

    The Mets are wasting Jacob deGrom’s best season yet.

    And now that Tebow is out for the year they cannot even get a boost in ticket sales by calling him up for his MLB debut.

    Back on the first three days of May when the Mets were swept at home by Atlanta by a combined 22-2, I declared it the end of their season much to the shock and ridicule of other Mets fans here. At the time they were still 17-12. Now they are 43-57. At the time I ridiculed Jay Bruce who had only 3 homers at the time, and the reply was that he would still hit 30 for the year. He still is stuck at 3.

    The Mets do need to stop the business plan of picking up worn out 38 year old players from waivers with the hope of finding one last year of revival before they retire.

    The talk now is that they should trade away all their good pieces and start over. Not sure what that would accomplish other than ensure the next decade of battling to stay out of last place in the division.

    As bad as they are, I don’t think they are that far off:

    Starting pitching:

    deGrom: Ace
    Syndergaard: Ace
    Matz: has struggled off and on, but his stuff seems to be getting better
    Wheeler: still getting better after returning from Tommy John surgery. His pitching has improved throughout the year.
    Vargas: Huge disappointment–they picked him up expecting great things and he flopped.

    But given the core of deGrom, Syndergaard, Matz and Wheeler, they have a starting staff that can win a lot of games. Then Lugo and Gsellman have been good in middle relief.

    For closer, I think they need someone new as Familia just doesn’t have what he used to. He still has some trade value, so they might as well get what they can.

    Outfield:
    Cespedes should return next season after his season ending surgery this year. He will hit a lot of homers and strike out a lot, but will make impact.
    Nimmo and Conforto will come into their primes next season and hit a lot of homers and hit for average.
    Lagares will return as the fourth outfielder coming off bench making a big impact.

    Infield:
    Wilmer Flores is having a good year with his highest ever season batting average. Cabrera hitting for more power this year, less for average. Rosario is the future in Shortstop–he should break out next year. But the Mets need quality players at first and third.

    So there are still core pieces to the Mets puzzle, and starting over only exchanges the best pieces for unknowns. So they should stay with these pieces and add what they need and give it another shot next year.

  877. Chicon says:

    Trump is hostile to free trade and is a protectionist, but he’s negotiating trade deals that purport to decrease tariffs?

    Maybe Robbie’s right about Trump’s cognitive slippage.

  878. jason says:

    Trade wars are damaging,”

    Yep.

  879. jason says:

    Trump is hostile to free trade and is a protectionist, but he’s negotiating trade deals that purport to decrease tariffs?”

    So it seems like you disagree that Trump is hostile to free trade and is a protectionist. Do you think Navarro and Ross are stealth free traders too?

    I guess if you really believe that, then I understand why you think imposing blanket tariffs and starting trade wars is pro free trade.

  880. jason says:

    “To treat [U.S.] auto imports like a national security threat would be a self-inflicted economic disaster for American consumers, dealers, and dealership employees,” Cody Lusk, president of the American International Automobile Dealers Association, Wednesday, on May 23, 2018.

    “Lots of countries have resorted to protectionism when their economies were doing badly. It almost never works. But Trump may be the first leader ever to do it when the economy is booming. He’s trying to fix a problem that ain’t broke. The auto industry is healthy.” Rufus Yerxa, president of the National Foreign Trade Council, on Wed., May 23, 2018″

  881. jason says:

    Chicon, quick question for you.

    Above, you said “trade wars are damaging”

    On March 2, Trump tweeted

    “trade wars are good, and easy to win”

    Are you saying you disagree with him?

  882. Chicon says:

    I’ll go with Occam’s Razor, and say that Trump’s goal is to have lower tariffs in the end. Because, you know, that’s what he’s asking for in the deal.

    One can debate whether the method to that end is a good idea; but believing that his real long-term goal is HIGHER tariffs borders on conspiracy theory territory, imo.

  883. Chicon says:

    903 – both can be true. Short-term pain for long-term gain involves damage even if the long-term outcome is good and easy to achieve.

    I know you’re a trade deadender, but if the US has a bunch of new trade deals in the next several months resulting in lower tariffs, your position that trade wars cannot be won will look silly.

  884. jason says:

    I know you’re a trade deadender, but if the US has a bunch of new trade deals in the next several months resulting in lower tariffs, your position that trade wars cannot be won will look silly.”

    Trade deadender? LOL. I like it, Bitter give me some points.

    Nobody wins trade wars, so history is on my side.

    Trump will declare he won the trade wars, but he will ignore the costs.

  885. Paul says:

    lisab says:
    July 27, 2018 at 11:13 am
    where are the trolls?

    I’m here. I’m reassessing things and wondering if Trump isn’t quite so bad. And in the end, who cares if he’s a corrupt Ahole anyway.

  886. jason says:

    but believing that his real long-term goal is HIGHER tariffs”

    His long term goal is economic isolationism and protectionism. When he talks about “winning trade wars” that is what he means. He considers isolationism “winning”.

    Tariffs are an avenue he has chosen for that, which has been the AFL-CIO’s and the fat cat union boss agenda for decades.

    One thing you can rely on Trump doing is saying what he means. If he was for free trade he would say so. He says he is for trade wars because he believes in trade wars.

    This is a good article from the National Review.

    It closes as follows:

    “Many voters blame international trade agreements for trends that are largely a product of automation or increased production. It’s a story as old as the division of labor. Politicians pretend to show their empathy for the victims of creative destruction by demanding “fairness.” Instead, we end up distorting markets, killing new jobs and ignoring reality.

    “On top of it all, protectionism is cronyism. It’s top-down control. It’s the state picking winners and losers. It’s a tax on the vast majority of Americans. Tariffs are all the things conservatives used to claim to be against.:

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/trump-anti-free-trade-position-protectionism-misguided/

  887. jason says:

    If you don’t have time to read the article, this stands out, to debunk the “fair trade” and “reciprocal” BS, two favorite memes of the AFL-CIO conservatives here.

    “Take Trump’s top trade adviser, Peter Navarro, who recently laid out his basic concerns in a New York Times piece: “First, trade must be not only free but also fair and reciprocal.”

    “Fair trade,” once used predominately by progressives, is a neologism without meaning. It allows a person to oppose complex agreements for a litany of reasons. The word “fair” is elastic and ambiguous, which is why it’s so popular with adolescents.

    The billions of people in developing nations who work tedious menial labor jobs probably don’t find it “fair” that Americans use the savings we gain from their work to build our unprecedented wealth. Is it fair that some countries sit atop vast amounts of fossil fuels or prime farmlands while others sit on arid or barren land?

    Let’s hope trade doesn’t get “fair” for us any time soon.”

  888. Mr.Vito says:

    Just released gallup party ID for the first two weeks of July was 44-40 (D+4) among adults…

  889. Wobbles says:

    Gallup is dead to me.

  890. Chicon says:

    It is a good article.

    “One thing you can rely on Trump doing is saying what he means.” Unless, I guess, when he’s saying he wants bilateral trade agreements with much lower tariffs.

  891. jason says:

    “Tariffs are all the things conservatives used to claim to be against.”

    This more than anything is the reason I left the Republican party. As I keep telling Amoral Scumbag, Trump is a symptom rather than the cause of the rising isolationist streak among conservatives.

    Its disheartening to me to see so many conservatives, who should be championing free trade and free markets and free enterprising, turning to the protectionist rhetoric of leftist labor unions.

    I also understand Trump won because of a large group that feels victimized by the current economy. And that Trump needed to address this frustration which he made a large part of his campaign. However, he could have used the opportunity to address it using free market and free enterprise principles, not the AFL-CIO agenda. Unfortunately, free trade and free markets are not in his DNA.”

  892. Chicon says:

    Here’s another quote from your article – “Honestly, if he’s using the threat of tariffs as a cudgel to attain those deals, I don’t really care if Justin Trudeau’s feelings are hurt.”

    That’s what I believe he’s doing. If he in fact gets bilateral agreements with lower tariffs, it will make the author incorrect that the goal all along was more protectionism.

  893. jason says:

    Unless, I guess, when he’s saying he wants bilateral trade agreements with much lower tariffs.”

    I lump this in with the “fair trade” and “reciprocal” rhetoric. Meaningless.

  894. jason says:

    Honestly, if he’s using the threat of tariffs as a cudgel to attain those deals, I don’t really care if Justin Trudeau’s feelings are hurt.”

    We are way past that now. We are in a full fledged trade war.

  895. Chicon says:

    “he could have used the opportunity to address it using free market and free enterprise principles, not the AFL-CIO agenda.”

    What are these “principles” and how do they apply to trade with a communist country? So far these principles have resulted in deals with heavy tariffs against the US, no?

  896. Mr.Vito says:

    “We are in a full fledged trade war.”

    Apparently not with the EU…

  897. Chicon says:

    916 – we are?

    4.1% while at a full-blown trade war damaging the whole economy?

  898. Mr.Vito says:

    Trump has endorsed John James.

  899. Chicon says:

    “We agreed today … to work together toward zero tariffs, zero non-tariff barriers, and zero subsidies on non-auto industrial goods,” declared the two leaders in a joint statement.

    Zero tariffs. Wednesday’s breakthrough with the European Union shows that, contrary to what his critics allege, Trump is not a protectionist; rather, he is using tariffs as a tool to advance a radical free-trade agenda.”

    Means nothing – he’s a protectionist.

  900. NYCmike says:

    Am I really reading a person saying that IF tariffs are lowered in the near future, that means that “His (Trump) long term goal is economic isolationism and protectionism.”?

    Seriously?

  901. NYCmike says:

    jason gets as many points as he wants today….enough to fill up that circular padded room.

    Go sit in the corner and count your points, jason.

  902. Chicon says:

    923 – that’s how I read it, Mike. But I don’t want to put words in his mouth; maybe I’m reading his posts wrong.

  903. NYCmike says:

    Chicon,

    It is very similar to when I used to ask him “How many other “liberal Democrats” give ANY money to Republicans, let alone 46% of their political donations?”.

    He just ignores the information and sticks to his own ideas…….kind of admirable, actually…..such strong beliefs in one self……

  904. Mr.Vito says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/07/27/un-warns-it-is-running-out-cash-in-urgent-appeal-to-members.html

    “Trump administration threats to cut funding do not appear to be directly linked to the cash crunch.

    While the administration has been eyeing carefully its payments to various U.N. funds and agencies, the U.S. has not yet reduced or delayed its payments to the budget, though due to the fall start of the U.S. fiscal year, payments usually come later in the year. “

  905. Mr.Vito says:

    Larry Kudlow:

    Second quarter growth rate is sustainable.

    We are moving to fix the broken world trading system.

    The President has argued again and again: no tariffs, no non-tariff barriers, no subsidies, free trade, but we have to get rid of the unfair trading practices– China’s the worst offender.

    Strong growth. Virtually no inflation.

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5814722450001/?playlist_id=2114913880001

  906. NYCmike says:

    “The President, “His (Trump) long term goal is economic isolationism and protectionism.”, has argued again and again: no tariffs, no non-tariff barriers, no subsidies, free trade, but we have to get rid of the unfair trading practices– China’s the worst offender.

  907. DW says:

    It is true that foreign countries have been robbing us openly for years. I know of one account where a guy bought a laptop for over a grand, and was bringing into another country for an American working there. Upon arrival the government seized it, impounded it, and demanded almost the full cost of the laptop in cash or they would keep it.

    After all, Americans are all rich, and other countries are so poor.

  908. DW says:

    930 – Yep, many third world countries and banana republics are governed better than the Mets.

  909. Mr.Vito says:

    LeBron James will be 50 when the Mets finish paying Bobby Bonilla.

  910. NYCmike says:

    Bobby Bonilla!

  911. DW says:

    NYCmike…I think the Mets better act quickly…the end of paying Bobby Bonilla will be here all too soon. They should lock in David Wright until 2089.

  912. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    916. “We are way past that now. We are in a full fledged trade war.”

    We have been in a trade war for awhile. This is the first time we are returning fire.

  913. DW says:

    I am sure Toupee Cook will rush to change IL_06 to Lean R from Tossup based on the new poll:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ——————————————————————————-
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | RRH | Kos | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ——————————————————————————-
    OK_05 R | 149 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.7 —
    NC_08 R | 150 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    OH_15 R | 151 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    PA_14* D | 152 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    IN_09 R | 153 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    WA_03 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    CA_22 R | 155 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 — 49/41 (PPP)
    OH_07 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    OH_10 R | 157 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    NY_23 R | 158 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Ln R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    AZ_06 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    AZ_08 R | 160 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    TX_31 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    CO_03 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    SC_01 R | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    MO_02 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    CA_50 R | 165 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    FL_15* R | 166 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    PA_16 R | 167 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 — 48/43 (PPP) | 50/44 (D-Int)
    IN_02 R | 168 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    FL_06* R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    MI_01 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    NC_02 R | 171 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    OH_14 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    WI_06 R | 174 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    FL_25 R | 175 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 46/39 (St. Pete)
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    TX_21* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_18 R | 180 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    NY_24 R | 181 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | 3.7 — 49/37 (PPP)
    IL_14 R | 183 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 — 45/41 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 184 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    CA_21 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    VA_05 R | 186 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    IL_13 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NY_01 R | 188 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.4 —
    GA_06* R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.1 —
    AR_02 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | 2.8 — 47/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 191 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 — 48/44 (D-Int.) | 42/42 (GSG-D)
    WA_05 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 193 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    NC_13 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.5 — 43/40 (PPP) | 40/35 (Civitas)
    OH_01 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.2 — 43/42 (PPP)
    VA_02 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.2 — 48/42 (PPP)
    WV_03* R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Lk R | 2.2 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    MT_01 R | 198 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 2.2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NM_02* R | 199 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    ME_02 R | 200 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 — 45/35
    TX_32 R | 201 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 —
    UT_04 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 — 47/43 | 45/39 (Salt Lake Trib.)
    KS_03 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 —
    IA_03 R | 204 | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.4 — 44/43 (PPP) | 41/45 (D-Int.)
    MI_08 R | 205 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/41 (PPP)
    VA_07 R | 206 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 —
    WI_01* R | 207 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 —
    OH_12* R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.2 — 48/43 (D-Int.) | 48/45 (D-Int.)
    NE_02 R | 209 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.2 —
    KY_06 R | 210 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 —
    KS_02* R | 211 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    IL_06 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 45/44 (Garin-Hart-D) | 44/37 (Victory Res.)
    TX_07 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    PA_01 R | 214 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 49/42
    CA_45 R | 215 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.8 — 43/46 (PPP)
    IL_12 R | 216 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 0.8 — 44/39 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 217 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 0.8 — 43/46 (PPP)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    NJ_07 R | 218 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.7 — 41/42 (PPP) | 45/47 (GQR-D)
    NC_09* R | 217 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.7 — 42/37 (PPP) | 36/43 (Civitas) | 43/44 (D-Int)
    NY_19 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.4 — 41/43 (PPP)
    TX_23 R | 215 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 44/43 (PPP)
    IA_01 R | 214 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    WA_08* R | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.2 — 51/45
    CA_10 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 49/42 (Srat. 360-D) | 45/40 (GSG-D)
    CA_48 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/44 (D-Internal) | 45/47 (Monmouth)
    CO_06 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/47 (D-Int)
    NY_22 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/40 (DCCC-D)
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    PA_17 R | 202 | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.2 — 39/51 (Monmouth)
    MI_11* R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.2 — 42/45 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 200 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.7 —
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -1 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    VA_10 R | 198 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.4 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    CA_49* R | 197 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 — 41/44 (Feldman) | 46/43 (R-Int)
    NH_01* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | -1.5 —
    AZ_02* R | 195 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.5 —
    NV_03* D | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -2.5 —
    NV_04* D | 192 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.5 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.7 —
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.1 —
    MN_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.4 —
    PA_08 D | 188 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.4 —
    NJ_05 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    PA_06* R | 186 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    CA_07 D | 185 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.2 —
    NJ_02* R | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    CT_05* D | 183 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | Ln D | -4.2 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    AZ_09* D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    WI_03 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 —
    CA_24 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 — 46/47 (Olive Tree St.)
    NY_18 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 —
    FL_13 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.4 —
    IA_02 D | 175 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —
    NY_25 D | 174 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —
    OR_05 D | 173 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.7 —

    *indicates open seat

  914. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “@realDonaldTrump ….,the only Collusion with Russia was with the Democrats, so now they are looking at my Tweets (along with 53 million other people) – the rigged Witch Hunt continues! How stupid and unfair to our Country….And so the Fake News doesn’t waste my time with dumb questions, NO,….”

    If Mueller thinks a president using Twitter somehow is an act in furtherance of collusion, there may be some serious First Amendment issues that will come up. Sadly, it is an example of what might be referred to as “deep state” thinking; going around established news media and communicating directly with the population is considered a threatening act.

  915. DW says:

    IPSOS – Generic Ballot

    Dem 41
    GOP 37

    trolls hardest hit

  916. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez answers the question on how to pay for all her socialism:

    “This is an excellent, excellent question,” she replied. “I sat down with a Nobel Prize economist last week — I can’t believe I can say that, it’s really weird — But one of the things that we saw is, if people pay their fair share, if corporations and the ultra wealthy — for example, as Warren Buffett likes to say, if he pays as much as his secretary paid, 15 percent tax rate, if corporations paid — if we reverse the tax bill, raised our corporate tax rate to 28 percent … if we do those two things and also close some of those loopholes, that’s $2 trillion right there.”

  917. Mr.Vito says:

    Exclusive: Obama Administration Knowingly Funded a Designated al-Qaeda Affiliate

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/07/obama-administration-al-qaeda-affiliate-knowingly-funded/

  918. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez talks about military spending:

    “Just last year we gave the military a $700 billion budget increase, which they didn’t even ask for,” … “They’re like, ‘We don’t want another fighter jet!’ They’re like, ‘Don’t give us another nuclear bomb,’ you know?”

  919. Mr.Vito says:

    941

    And sadly, that one is for real…

  920. DW says:

    More Ocasio-Cortez:

    “If we get people to pay their fair share, that’s $2 trillion in 10 years. Now if we implement a carbon tax on top of that, so that we can transition and financially incentivize people away from fossil fuels, if we implement a carbon tax — that’s an additional amount, a large amount of revenue that we can have.”

  921. DW says:

    OK…I have posted THREE quotes from Ocasio-Cortez…which ones were FAKED?

  922. DW says:

    But honestly, I cannot think of a better asset for the GOP house members than having Ocasio-Cortez criss-crossing America delivering her message. Talk about a Godsend.

  923. DW says:

    ANSWER: All three quotes were REAL this time.

  924. Phil says:

    My guess is none of the above quotes were faked. She’s actually that stupid.

  925. NYCmike says:

    Phil is NOT TIRED OF WINNING YET!

  926. NYCmike says:

    Another Trump boot licker!

  927. NYCmike says:

    I just read something about Ben Sasse not running for re-election.

    Has anyone else seen that news?

  928. Chicon says:

    Speaking of boot licking….. How’s Senator McCain doing lately? Hopefully he’ll be able to get back to Washington to vote for the Supreme Court nominee that he tweeted support for.

  929. DW says:

    More Ocasio-Cortez…

    “As I said, raise the corporate tax rate, and we can watch the revenue, like, pour in by the trillions. Corporations not adequately taxed have created the problem we are in. But look around the world where there are high corporate taxes. Countries like Venezuela where they have trillions to spend because of the high taxes.”

  930. DW says:

    More Ocasio-Cortez…

    “I am definitely afraid of what an extreme right-wing supreme court might do to Roe vs. Wade. Honestly whenever I hear on social media from a friend, or a friend’s friend who had an abortion, it gives me an inward thrill–you know my heart skips a beat with excitement, knowing that they exercised their right to end an unwanted pregnancy.”

  931. DW says:

    More Ocasio-Cortez…

    “Someone asked me recently if government spending money grows on trees. I thought about it for a minute and then laughed saying, ‘no, the government just prints extra money when they need it–when enough isn’t collected from the rich.'”

  932. DW says:

    OK, posted three more Ocasio-Cortez quotes…which are real and which are fake?

  933. jason says:

    Pass the popcorn.

    “Michael Cohen’s efforts to muzzle one of his chief antagonists will be before a federal judge in Los Angeles on Friday, as President Donald Trump’s long-time fixer seeks a gag order against Michael Avenatti, the outspoken attorney for adult-film star, Stormy Daniels.

    Cohen’s lawyers have likened Avenatti to a “small-town carnival magician,” and have accused him in court filings of a deliberate smear campaign against Cohen involving more than 170 television appearances and upwards of 500 tweets “during which he routinely accused Cohen of various criminal acts” and of “being a moron.”

    “Mr. Avenatti’s actions are mainly driven by his seemingly unquenchable thirst for publicity,” wrote Cohen’s attorney Brent Blakely in a court filing earlier this month.”

  934. Chicon says:

    Avenatti and Stormy are a good pair.

  935. Phil says:

    I got to say those three are fake. She’s stupid but no one could be that stupid.

  936. lisab says:

    moonves accused by 6 women

    cbs news and 60 minutes also under fire

  937. NYCmike says:

    With a name like MOONves, sometimes you just have to let it all hang out!

  938. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    964. “-Robbie quiet today….”

    Concerned troll seems to be episodic. Whenever he is in a particular mood, it all comes pouring out.

  939. NYCmike says:

    I am trying to remember if he expressed any happiness on November 8, 2016.

  940. lisab says:

    New York kicks Spectrum cable out of state for ‘failures to serve New Yorkers’

  941. NYCmike says:

    In other news, Author Mendez now filling out Libertarian primary ballots.

  942. lisab says:

    I am trying to remember if he expressed any happiness on November 8, 2016.
    —————————————
    Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 7:18 pm
    Lord Ashcroft ?@LordAshcroft · 41m41 minutes ago

    Pennsylvania Clinton +5. Arizona Trump +3. Colorado Clinton +6. Michigan Clinton +5. Wisconsin. Clinton +6. Iowa Trump +3

  943. lisab says:

    I am trying to remember if he expressed any happiness on November 8, 2016.
    —————————————
    Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 8:22 pm
    Parts of Broward and Palm Beach are still out. Tough hill to climb for Trump.

  944. lisab says:

    I am trying to remember if he expressed any happiness on November 8, 2016.
    —————————————
    Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 8:30 pm
    Trump may pull off FL, but NC and GA look iffy right now.

  945. lisab says:

    I am trying to remember if he expressed any happiness on November 8, 2016.
    —————————————
    Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 9:40 pm
    Northern Virginia coming in for Clinton and eating into Trump’s lead.

  946. lisab says:

    I am trying to remember if he expressed any happiness on November 8, 2016.
    —————————————
    and then he dissapeared

  947. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Then there was that moment of agony and realization by Robbie:

    “Robbie says:
    November 8, 2016 at 9:31 pm
    I’m speechless. I didn’t think this clown had a chance. I suspect he comes up just short, but I am dumbfounded by this.”

  948. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    974. “I suspect he comes up just short,”

    Even in his moment of horror, Robbie still confirmed his noted inaccuracy at making election predictions. A trooper till the end.

  949. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    907. Paul. “lisab says:
    July 27, 2018 at 11:13 am
    where are the trolls?

    I’m here. I’m reassessing things and wondering if Trump isn’t quite so bad. And in the end, who cares if he’s a corrupt Ahole anyway.”

    Don’t wimp out on us Paul. You need to stand in front of a mirror and scream hysterically. That way you can grow into a concerned troll.

  950. jason says:

    Buck up Paul. You worked hard for this.

    Look at Amoral Scumbag, making an ass of himself here since 2004, and still going strong.

    Now stop whining and dream of Ocasio-Cortez as President if you get depressed.

  951. jason says:

    GA look iffy right now.”

    Amoral Scumbag was so shell shocked, he didn’t think it through that its was pretty hard for Trump to win FL and lose GA.

    Also GA was never “iffy”. Trump led by over 300k votes most of the night, it was hard to figure out why it wasn’t being called. In the end the big dump from Atlanta narrowed it to 200k votes but the numbers shown on TV were never “iffy” at all.

  952. jason says:

    lisab, you really want to deny this guy his wish? Really?

    “A man on death row in Texas for stomping his 3-month-old baby to death in 2008 filed a motion this week, asking to waive his appeals in an effort to receive the death penalty sooner, the Houston Chronicle reported.

    Travis Mullis, 31, was convicted and sent to death row in 2011 for the death of his son, Alijah.

    “I support my death sentence and want it carried out ASAP,” he told the Chronicle in a letter earlier this year. “I was sentenced to death, not indefinite detention.”

    In January 2008, Mullis took his 8-year-old daughter to a schoolyard and attempted to molest her, the Chronicle reported.

    When the girl began crying, Mullis brought her home but decided he would get in trouble because he “stepped over the line,” the newspaper reported.

    On Jan. 29, Mullis, pondering his future and fearful that his daughter would speak about the attempted molestation, drove to Galveston with Alijah sleeping in the car. But when the boy awoke and began crying, Mullis first molested him, then stomped on his skull, the Chronicle reported..

    “I make stupid decisions, what can I say,” he told the newspaper. “I did it on impulse and killed him right after.”

  953. Tina says:

    Lord Arsehat gave him the tip about Georgia looking shaky,

  954. NYCmike says:

    I miss this guy!

    AuthorLMendez says:
    November 8, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    God helps us all. This is likely my last day in politics. See you at the book pages.

  955. jason says:

    jason says:
    November 4, 2016 at 12:48 pm
    I am on record as saying that if Trump is within 2 on the eve of the election, he could win.
    I know MD disagrees, he thinks there is a Trump “penalty” but I think the hidden Trump vote is real. It’s not huge but it could easily increase his numbers by a couple percentage points.

  956. jason says:

    Robbie says:
    November 4, 2016 at 10:04 am
    A few weeks ago, Phil and a few others mocked the idea Ryan could be deposed as House Speaker thanks to the clowns in the Freedom Caucus.
    John Harwood ?@JohnJHarwood · 46m46 minutes ago
    Veteran GOP House member allied w/Ryan: “not clear he can get 218. Freedom Caucus restless. Trump might ask followers to oust Ryan”

  957. jason says:

    Cory (Clinton 347 / Trump 191) says:
    November 1, 2016 at 3:28 pm
    Ron Johnson is going down HARD.
    And I find it ridiculous that I have to tell you that.

  958. jason says:

    ? Annie says:
    November 1, 2016 at 7:20 pm
    Trump is often crass, Jason. But so are you.’

    Where is Annie? And Eml? And Godfather?

  959. jason says:

    Cory (Clinton 347 / Trump 191) says:
    November 8, 2016 at 9:00 pm
    Nervous.

  960. NYCmike says:

    MD: “I no longer identify with the GOP’s values and principles.”

    -Less regulation, lower taxes, stronger military?

    Trying to abolish tariffs?

    Color-blind justice system?

    What were the values and principles that MD identified as being Republican Party?

  961. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    LOTS of good material in them there pages!

  962. NYCmike says:

    jason says:
    November 8, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    MD, we need you to oppose Trump or Hillary.

    -An A-Hole needs another A-Hole to look good!

  963. NYCmike says:

    GOOD CALL!

    Bryan says:
    November 8, 2016 at 10:15 pm

    I got a lot a flack posting in the spring but this felt like a Gingrich moment…

  964. NYCmike says:

    Checks and balances, baby!

    NYCmike says:
    November 9, 2016 at 12:56 am

    NOW the hard part starts…making sure Trump sticks to campaign ideas, not his previous ideas.

  965. NYCmike says:

    Corey made a remark about judges…and of course, was raising the bar for Trump.

    How we looking so far, “CG”?

    NYCmike says:
    November 9, 2016 at 1:07 am

    “Odds are he is going to screw you on those.”

    -Odds are he will have happen what happened to both Bushes, Nixon, Eisenhower and Reagan – a moderate-to-liberal may sneak in.

    Hopefully not, but judge him with the same standard as the others.

  966. NYCmike says:

    Corey says:
    November 9, 2016 at 1:28 am

    There is nothing that Trump campaigned on that is even close to conservatism.

    🙂

  967. jason says:

    1Proud Obamacon says:
    November 4, 2016 at 12:40 pm
    ” GOP enthusiasm is greater.”
    And Dem’s have the silent majority.. But but rallies! But but but lawn signs! LOL.. silent majority will speak with their vote.

  968. jason says:

    1. jason says:
    November 4, 2016 at 12:26 pm
    Here are the states I think will flip: IA, OH and FL in that order of likelihood.
    Obama only beat Romney by 80k votes in FL. Hillary is not getting as many votes as Obama, bet on it. The question is how many Romney voters will Trump lose and how many blue collar Dems he will gain.

    Did anyone bet on it?

    Hillary 4,504,973
    Obama 4,237,756

    Yeah, I was wrong on Hillary vs. Obama.

    But I was right that Trump picked up a lot of blue collar Dems

    Romney 4,163,447
    Trump 4,617,886

  969. Tina says:

    November 9, 2016 at 1:28 am

    There is nothing that Trump campaigned on that is even close to conservatism.

    Ending bumbler are and cutting regs are not conservative ideas, according to the Clinton groupie.

  970. NYCmike says:

    Herman Cain comin’ up!

  971. NYCmike says:

    Soon!

  972. NYCmike says:

    9! 9! 9!

  973. Bitterlaw says:

    I would ask what I missed at HHR today but I pretty much know the script:

    Trump is great vs Trump sucks

    Jebot

    Muh something

    Tariff’s are bad unless they are Trump’s tariffs

  974. Bitterlaw says:

    979. That scum should be executed tonight.

  975. Tina says:

    You missed the jebots, they went mute. I think the jebots are in re training in the commune with cccp sanders

    I was here really early in the am, before the gdp.

  976. lisab says:

    jason,

    under most, but not all circumstances, i am against the state killing a citizen. that applies to even citizens that want the state to kill them.

    if he wants to off himself, that is his choice.

    the exceptions would be things like cult-like leaders or other such people whose followers would cause problems if their leader was left alive, famously for example the prisoners at nurembug, or the head of a drug-cartel, head of a gang or terror cell

  977. lisab says:

    weird the trolls were silent today

  978. Phil says:

    ….as Tina said they were in training all day today. Pounding out a new set of talking points which I would guess we will be seeing all day tomorrow.

    Can’t wait.

  979. jason says:

    That scum should be executed tonight.”

    I suggest stomping on his head.

  980. dblaikie says:

    Ms. Ocasio-Cortez was on the Daily Show and she gave us her ideas on how to pay for her socialist agenda. It really is pretty funny! She will be the gift that keeps on giving. I hope she goes all across the country making this the real Democratic Agenda. Or better put the agenda to produce an economic depression in the quickest time. Here is her deep and idiotic thoughts:

    “One of the things that we saw is, if people pay their fair share, if corporations and the ultra wealthy — for example, as Warren Buffett likes to say, if he pays as much as his secretary paid, 15 percent tax rate, if corporations paid — if we reverse the tax bill, raised our corporate tax rate to 28 percent … if we do those two things and also close some of those loopholes, that’s $2 trillion right there. That’s two trillion dollars in ten years.

    If we get people to pay their fair share, that’s $2 trillion in ten years. Now if we implement a carbon tax on top of that, so that we can transition and financially incentivize people away from fossil fuels, if we implement a carbon tax — that’s an additional amount, a large amount of revenue that we can have.
    Then the last key, which is extremely extremely important is re-prioritization. Just last year we gave the military a $700 billion budget increase, which they didn’t even ask for,” she said. “They’re, like, ‘we don’t want another fighter jet!’ They’re, like, ‘don’t give us another nuclear bomb,’ you know?”

    How can you say anymore?

  981. jason says:

    Where is Proud Obamacon. His socialist paradise is crumbling….

    “As their oil-rich country buckles under the weight of a failed socialist experiment, an estimated 5,000 people a day are departing the country in Latin America’s largest migrant outflow in decades.

    Venezuelan professionals are abandoning hospitals and universities to scrounge livings as street vendors in Peru and janitors in Ecuador. Here in Trinidad and Tobago – a petroleum-producing Caribbean nation off Venezuela’s northern coast – Venezuelan lawyers are working as day laborers and sex workers. A former well-to-do bureaucrat who once spent a summer eating traditional shark sandwiches and drinking whisky on Trinidad’s Maracas Bay is now working as a maid.”

    Ocasio-Cortez to the rescue!

  982. jason says:

    messy says:
    October 19, 2016 at 5:06 pm

    There are a number of states in the west besides Utah, where McMullin has a chance to either win or be a major spoiler (i.e. give a dark red state to Hillary), but nobody’s doing polls with his name on them. On pollster did one with is name on it out of curiosity and it all went haywire.

    This is cool.”

  983. jason says:

    “Proud Obamacon says:
    October 19, 2016 at 12:16 pm

    LA Times finally taking their thumbs off the scale, they should be out of business with their narrative setting. Media wants a horse race, but too bad, its a clear HRC lead and no denying that now.

    As for coasting (last topic), well HRC aint coasting baby. 5 point lead in AZ? Hell yeah, that was a quick victory. AZ fell with little resistence. It is time to redeploy forces from MO and IN and go for a full assault in TX. We want TX and its ours if we want it. Let’s go for it. Break their backs, take TX!

  984. jason says:

    I guess math was not Kommie Kory’s only problem…

    ory (Clinton 347 / Trump 191) says:
    October 19, 2016 at 1:51 pm

    Electorally speaking, the biggest figure in modern American history (post FDR) has been Roland Reagan.

  985. jason says:

    In case anyone believed Amoral Scumbag when he said he wasn’t shilling for Hillary

    Robbie says:
    November 6, 2016 at 2:58 pm

    I have said that, because of his actions, Trump deserves to lose in a landslide. In the next sentence, though, I would say I prefer he only suffer a narrow loss so as not to obliterate the down ballot Republicans.”

  986. jason says:

    Bitter called him on it too.

    Bitterlaw says:
    November 6, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    I have said that, because of his actions, Trump deserves to lose in a landslide.

    All the rest was revisionist b.s., Robbie. As Jason noted, you spent almost 4 years denying that yo were going to celebrate losing. At least you are revising your statements earlier this time.”

  987. Tina says:

    Routine did celebrate Romneys loss.

  988. NYCmike says:

    Unlike MD, Robbie will still vote for a Republican rep and Senator (I think he will, anyway).

  989. jason says:

    Broke Owebama says:
    November 8, 2016 at 11:36 pm

    “UNSKEW!!!!”

    -Wobbie Sobbie, Cory the Beta Male, Proud Abomination, Just Feel Out My Mom

  990. jason says:

    Unlike MD, Robbie will still vote for a Republican rep and Senator (I think he will, anyway).”

    If you believe in anything this Amoral Scumbag says you are a trusting soul.

  991. jason says:

    Corey is not always wrong…

    Corey says:
    November 9, 2016 at 1:34 am

    And I will be quite surprised if NYCMike ever has a word of criticism for Trump. He has not to this point thus far. Maybe Mike will surprise me.”

    He won’t…

  992. jason says:

    Imagine if there was bust or plaque or something honoring Obama and some right winger destroyed it with a sledge hammer.

    It would be front page news, there would be editorials about it, Trump would be blamed for a culture of violence, etc.

    Trump’s star in Hollywood destroyed, nary a peep.

    Amoral Scumbag is probably proud.

  993. DW says:

    Its like year ago jason when near Holloween when leftist were using the occasion to hang Republican candidates in effigy, and the media just looked the other way. They agree. Just like they agreed with the destruction of Trump’s star.

    But just wait until a Democrat’s monument is destroyed.

  994. lisab says:

    Straight Black Men Are the White People of Black People

    It feels counterintuitive to suggest that straight black men as a whole possess any sort of privilege—particularly the type of privilege created for and protected by whiteness….

    Although we recognize that not all white people are actively racist, we want them to accept that all benefit from racism, and we become annoyed when individual whites take personal exception and center themselves in any conversation about race, claiming to be one of the “good ones” and wishing for us to stop and acknowledge their goodness.

    But when black women share that we pose the same existential and literal danger to them that whiteness does to us; and when black women ask us to give them the benefit of the doubt about street harassment and sexual assault and other forms of harassment and violence we might not personally witness; … their words are met with resistance and outright pushback. After demanding from white people that we’re listened to and believed and that our livelihoods are considered, our ears shut off and hearts shut down when black women are pleading with us.

    I’m not quite sure where I first heard “straight black men are the white people of black people.” I know I read a version of it recently in Saki Benibo’s “The 4:44 Effect.” Mela Machinko tweeted, “Cishet black men are the white people of black people” over a year ago and apparently received so much criticism for it that she temporarily locked her account….

    Either way, that statement, that phrasing and what they suggest are shocking and succinct: simple, subtle and f-king scary.
    And it’s true.

  995. jason says:

    Ohhh, Amoral Scumbag is going to be VERY excited about Golfgate.

    “The Post is asking readers to submit tips regarding specific days during Trump’s presidency when he is thought to have golfed with a partner, citing a need for transparency for those whom the president spends hours with in a private setting.

    The newspaper cited Trump’s propensity to play in private settings away from cameras as a reason why identifying his partners has been so difficult.

    “In part this is because Trump chooses to play on courses where he can keep outside observers from seeing what’s going on. That also means that it’s often hard to learn about his partners and, further, to confirm that he was joined on the course,” the article reads.

    Trump frequently golfs with members of his exclusive clubs in Bedminster, N.J., and Palm Beach, Fla., where his partners are often not released to the public.”

    This is worse than Watergate.

  996. lisab says:

    CNN: Eight years of Obama’s diplomacy finally pays off

    What are thought to be the remains of 55 American servicemen killed during the Korean War were released by North Korea on Friday and flown to a U.S. air base, the White House said.

    The move comes on the 65th anniversary of the armistice agreement that ended combat and represents a significant victory for President Donald Trump, who had promised to bring home the remains amid thawing tensions with Pyongyang.

  997. Wobbles says:

    I hope Mueller is looking into this.

    I bet most of the people he is golfing with know where Russia is.

  998. Wobbles says:

    Breaking:

    According to Lord Arsehat, two of Trump’s golfing partners were seeing drinking vodka and one is reputed to like caviar.

    There is also an unsubstantiated rumor that some of his partners ordered Russian dressing on their salads, but Lord Arsehat said that is still being confirmed with the waiters and cooks.

  999. Wobbles says:

    You know me, I am very conservative in my accusations, but this story doesn’t seem to have any holes in it.

  1000. DW says:

    Mets doing all they can to help the Phillies win the NL East. First they traded away their closer for almost nothing in return making it easier for the Phillies to beat the Mets in their remaining games. Second they traded they best hitter, Cabrera, to the Phillies yesterday for an unknown Double-A pitching prospect.

  1001. jason says:

    The moonbats will want to crucify him, but I agree 100%.

    “The quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys said Friday that team owner Jerry Jones’s policy on standing during performances of the national anthem would not affect him because he would “never” protest during the anthem’s performance.

    Dak Prescott told reporters that the performance of “The Star-Spangled Banner” before games was not the “time or venue” for player-led protests against police brutality and racism.

    “It has no affect to me because I do exactly what I’m doing and what I’ve said and what I stand by,” Prescott said of the policy. “Whether I was wearing the star or not, whether I was playing for Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones or any other owner. I believe in what I believe in, and that’s that.”

    “I’d never protest during the anthem, and I don’t think that’s the time or the venue to do so,” he added. “The game of football has always brought me such peace, and I think it does the same for a lot of people.”

    Prescott added that bringing “controversy” into football games lessens the experience for both players and fans.

    “[W]hen you bring such a controversy to the stadium, to the field, to the game, it takes away … from that,” he said. “It takes away from the joy and the love that football brings a lot of people”

  1002. DW says:

    President Trump has promised federal assistance to California in response to the fires going on there.

    Given the state’s hatred for Trump, I assume they will reject the aid.

  1003. jason says:

    What was funny on election night 2016, the only people Amoral Scumbag was able to quote to give hope to his dream of a Hillary win and big R losses was the far left MSNBC hacks Heillemann and Halperin and some rich Brit moron named Lord Arsehat, who ran away from the UK to Belize to escape taxes, and whose understanding of US politics is probably less than Kommie Kory’s.

  1004. jason says:

    Well, remember this guy?

    A sociology professor at the University of Tampa published a tweet on Sunday afternoon suggesting that Texas residents deserve the death, destruction and suffering caused by Hurricane Harvey because a majority of Texas voters supported Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election.

    The professor is Kenneth L. Storey, reports Campus Reform.”

    Fortunately Trump will offer help to CA despite losing there by 4 million votes.

  1005. DW says:

    Far be it from me to stay out of the posting of election 2016 quotes…so I will pull some from RRH:

    kewgardens
    November 8, 2016 at 7:25 am
    Happy Election Day!
    Or as we like to call it here in NY:
    “Trumpocalypse Now”

  1006. Mr.Vito says:

    Kevin Spacey’s star is next to Trump’s on the Walk of Fame…

    I’m guessing it is in pristine condition.

  1007. DW says:

    GerGOP
    November 8, 2016 at 7:30 am | In reply to kewgardens
    This is the culmination of the saddest election day Americas has had in decades, propably?
    If Trump wins (and despite Silver giving him a one in three, I say he has absolutely no chance), there’ll be riots on the streets. If Clinton wins, the split will only get deeper and more ugly.

  1008. lisab says:

    Poll: Obama ‘worst president’ since World War II

    In a new Quinnipiac University Poll, 33% named Obama the worst president since World War II, and 28% put Bush at the bottom of post-war presidents.

    “Over the span of 69 years of American history and 12 presidencies, President Barack Obama finds himself with President George W. Bush at the bottom of the popularity barrel,” said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Poll.

    Of course, Obama and Bush are the most recent presidents; historians will tell you that it takes decades to truly measure an individual president’s performance.

    Ronald Reagan topped the poll as the best president since World War II, with 35%. He is followed by presidents Bill Clinton (18%) and John F. Kennedy (15%).

    Obama received only 8% in the best presidents poll.

  1009. DW says:

    and here was a supposed fiscal conservative openly rooting for Hillary:

    Ryan_in_SEPA
    November 8, 2016 at 8:18 am | In reply to GerGOP

    That is part of my logic in supporting her.

    32, PA-6, fiscally conservative communitarian

  1010. DW says:

    And this one about Charlie Toupee Cook:

    Red Oaks
    November 8, 2016 at 8:53 am
    The Cook Political Report website has a roundup of “state experts” making predictions on election results in their home states. On average they seem pretty bullish on Democrats including predicting a NV and NH sweep of major races, Clinton to take one electoral vote in NE, and Dems to flip the MI house, MI-01 and MI-07.

  1011. DW says:

    Here is a hint for political newcomers: Charlie Cook is always bullish on Democrat chances.

  1012. DW says:

    Ryan_in_SEPA
    November 8, 2016 at 9:20 am | In reply to HS
    I doubt it happens, but I cannot rule out Trump coming out in his “concession speech” and admitting this whole campaign was a ruse to get Hillary elected. I suspect we would see mass increases in unrest and overdoses after the announcement among the Great Unwashed.

  1013. DW says:

    not all on RRH were out to lunch. This guy seemed to be on target:

    cer
    November 8, 2016 at 10:05 am
    Me thinks the Hillary camp is a getting a tad too cocky.
    I hold to my continuing position that this race will be a lot closer then many folks think that it will be.

  1014. DW says:

    CyHawk
    November 8, 2016 at 10:07 am | In reply to cer
    Cocky like this? Basically winning everything they targeted
    David Plouffe final call: 50% Clinton, 44% Trump. 342 EVs (she wins all Obama 2012 states including OH + NC + NE-2), or 348 (wins IA too)

  1015. DW says:

    Tekzilla
    November 8, 2016 at 10:26 am | In reply to cer
    Who in the Hillary camp has been cocky?
    How is it going to be closer with little Trump GOTV effort? Let’s face it, you were way off in the primaries and you are likely way off now too.

  1016. DW says:

    kewgardens
    November 8, 2016 at 12:52 pm
    Market keeps going up. That is almost certainly good news for Hillary. Somebody knows something.

  1017. DW says:

    And anyone who respects Sabato only needs look at this:

    http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/our-final-2016-picks/

    Wisconsin POTUS was Likely D, yet Trump won it. FL, NC, PA and MI were all Lean D, yet Trump won them…and Sabato did allow for a Tossup category.

  1018. DW says:

    rdw72777
    November 8, 2016 at 2:52 pm
    So I’m off kilter a bit with the time change.
    In the Senate I’m saying Dems grab in order IL, WI, IN, PA, NH and hold NV. More confident on NV than IN/PA/NH to be honest…lackluster Dem campaigns all around in those 4.

  1019. DW says:

    And RRH was also big on the VoteCastr which supposedly was giving election day results:

    Log in to Reply
    MosheM
    November 8, 2016 at 3:16 pm
    VoteCastr update:
    Florida
    74.9 percent of expected total voters
    Clinton: 49 percent
    Trump: 45 percent
    Colorado:
    72.2 percent of expected total voters
    Clinton: 47 percent
    Trump: 42 percent
    Iowa:
    55.9 percent of expected total voters
    Clinton: 45 percent
    Trump: 46 percent
    Wisconsin:
    47.9 percent of expected total voters
    Clinton: 49 percent
    Trump: 43 percent
    Nevada:
    58.7 percent of expected total voters
    Clinton: 47 percent
    Trump: 44 percent
    Ohio:
    59.8 percent of expected total voters
    Clinton: 46 percent
    Trump: 45 percent
    Pennsylvania
    45.9 percent of expected total voters
    Hillary: 48 percent
    Trump: 44 percent

    29, M, R, NY-10 (Soon-to-be NY-17)

  1020. DW says:

    reedc
    November 8, 2016 at 3:41 pm | In reply to StatenIslandTest
    I think Latinos and younger votes turn out more than predicted in polls. So yeah I think Dems could be underpolled. They were in 2012. Not impossible it’s happening again.

  1021. DW says:

    MosheM
    November 8, 2016 at 5:17 pm
    From the first round of exits: 44% of voters have a favorable rating of Clinton. 37% have a favorable view of Trump.

    29, M, R, NY-10 (Soon-to-be NY-17)

    MosheM
    November 8, 2016 at 5:19 pm
    59 percent of voters say Clinton is not honest, 65 percent say Trump isn’t honest.

    29, M, R, NY-10 (Soon-to-be NY-17)

    GerGOP
    November 8, 2016 at 5:22 pm | In reply to MosheM
    Done deal, case closed, cancel the rest of the election. If Trump ranks lower in honesty, he’s lost.

  1022. DW says:

    Tekzilla
    November 8, 2016 at 5:34 pm
    NBC News Exit Poll: Among voters who say the economy is their most important issue, Clinton leads 53-38%
    This seems big.

  1023. DW says:

    Tekzilla
    November 8, 2016 at 5:54 pm
    NBC Early Exit Poll: 64 percent say Trump does not have temperament to serve
    Wow

    37/M/NY-01 (D)

  1024. Tina says:

    Evolution of #Jeb!
    Jeb Bush
    @JebBush
    Today’s news confirms that 4% growth isn’t just aspirational, it’s achievable through policies that unleash the power of the market. Credit to @POTUS’s economic policies. To sustain this growth, we must pursue a free trade agenda and move to a merit-based immigration system.

    The jebots “lose” jeb.

  1025. DW says:

    Tekzilla
    November 8, 2016 at 6:46 pm
    This is going to be a short night.
    – Sean Trende

    37/M/NY-01 (D)

  1026. DW says:

    reedc
    November 8, 2016 at 7:00 pm
    I said GA would be Clintons closest loss. It might actually be her closest win.

  1027. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab might support the death penalty for gang leaders but not baby stompers. Well, I guess it is progress. Baby steps.

    Too much?

  1028. DW says:

    Bitter, maybe the Phillies can get deGrom from the Mets too. They are wasting yet another gem of a start from deGrom whose ERA sits at 1.70.

    Based on the trading strategy the Mets have employed so far this year, they probably would give him to the Phillies in exchange for the Phillies’ Phanatic and a mascot to be named later.

  1029. lisab says:

    Lisab might support the death penalty for gang leaders
    ———————————

    only in extreme cases where the gang likely would still rally around the leader even if imprisoned, such as in the case of drug cartels, the mafia, terrorist cells etc.

    in those cases, simply locking up the person will not end their threat to society.

  1030. lisab says:

    Lisab might support the death penalty for gang leaders
    ———————————

    no matter how heinous the crime, if society can protect itself without ending a human life, it should do so.

  1031. Bitterlaw says:

    While I disagreed with lisab’s anti-death penalty stance, at least she was consistant. Now she is tinkering around the edges.

    I don’t care if the death penalty deters crime or protects society. I just want murders executed.

  1032. lisab says:

    that was always my stance on the death penalty, and comes from

    USCCB, A Culture of Life and the Penalty of Death

  1033. lisab says:

    A new poll shows Gov. Rick Scott with a slight lead over U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson, D-Fla., in one of the most closely watched U.S. Senate races in the nation.

    Florida Atlantic University Business and Economics Polling Initiative (FAU BEPI) released a poll on Wednesday which found Scott taking 44 percent and Nelson behind him with 40 percent and the rest undecided.

  1034. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1063. “I don’t care if the death penalty deters crime or protects society. I just want murders executed.”

    Totally agree. What’s the point of keeping a murderer or other vicious criminal alive — there is nothing to be gained to spending your life like a caged animal. Seems like killing someone by slow rot.

    Plus, there really is a benefit and relief for the victim’s families. It helps to put it behind them. In the worse case scenario, there is nothing worse than reading a letter from someone showing callous disregard for killing someone you were close to.

  1035. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Hope your feeling better Bitter.

  1036. Bitterlaw says:

    Thanks, SDC. I recovered quickly.

  1037. lisab says:

    What’s the point of keeping a murderer or other vicious criminal alive
    —————————–

    well we could talk about how unequally the death sentence is given out among the races,

    but more importantly, the state should not be allowed to kill its citizens unless absolutely necessary.

  1038. jason says:

    “COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo — In some of their sharpest criticism of the Trump administration, leaders of the influential political network associated with conservative billionaire Charles Koch on Saturday slammed President Trump’s trade tariffs as “protectionism” that hurts American businesses and consumers.

    “The divisiveness of this White House is causing long-term damage,” Brian Hooks, one of Koch’s top deputies told reporters. “When in order to win on an issue, somebody else has to lose, it makes it very difficult to unite people to solve the problems of this country.”

    Hooks’ remarks came as Koch and more than 500 donors in his network kicked off a three-day retreat, where they are expected to plot the network’s course on everything from their growing support of anti-poverty programs around the country to the tough midterm elections in which Republican control of the House is in jeopardy.

    The network is expected to spend as much as $400 million on politics and policy in this two-year election cycle, further cementing its role as one of the most powerful forces in conservative politics.”

  1039. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “well we could talk about how unequally the death sentence is given out among the races,”

    Yes, but we can also talk about how unequally one race is being murdered:

    “Nationwide, the black homicide victimization rate in 2011 was 17.51 per 100,000. The overall national homicide victimization rate was 4.44 per 100,000, and among white Americans, the homicide victimization rate was 2.64 per 100,000.”

    In Chicago about 80% of all murder victims are African-American; its close to 90% in Milwaukee. The murderers are primarily other African-Americans.

    My feeling is someone who commits first degree murder, no matter what their demographic background, should face the death penalty.

  1040. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab does raise a good point. Therefore, as a white person, I demand that more white murderers be executed.

  1041. Messy says:

    If the only way you can rebut an argument is to (a) misrepresent it or (b) resort to personal attacks, you’re conceding that you can’t win the debate. Which is fine. But don’t expect anyone worthwhile to have an ounce of respect for you.—Jake Tapper

  1042. Tgca says:

    Buenos dias mamacitas y papitos!

    Como esta gringos?

  1043. lisab says:

    If the only way you can rebut an argument is to (a) misrepresent it or (b) resort to personal attacks,
    —————————–

    but … but … that is cnn’s motto

  1044. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1075
    lisab- you are exactly right. Take a look at the pummeling Tapper is taking for his “advice”!

    https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/07/29/loud-noises-jake-tappers-tweet-scolding-people-about-how-they-debate-backfires-bigly-on-cnn/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

  1045. lisab says:

    The Philadelphia Story

    % death penalty was given, who was involved,

    18% black victim/black defendant
    21% non-black victim/black defendant
    03% black victim/non-black defendant
    14% non-black victim/non-black defendant

    Whichever measures the researchers employed, the statistics pointed to the same conclusion: black defendants on average face a distinctly higher risk of receiving a death sentence than all other similarly situated defendants. The various independent tests were so thoroughly consistent that they pointed to race discrimination as the underlying cause. The researchers stated: “In the face of these results, we consider it implausible that the estimated disparities are a product of chance or reflect a failure to control for important omitted case characteristics. . . . In short, we believe it would be extremely unlikely to observe disparities of this magnitude and consistency if there were substantial equality in the treatment of defendants in this system.”

    . D. Baldus, et al., Race Discrimination and the Death Penalty in the Post Furman Era: An Empirical and Legal Overview, with Preliminary Findings from Philadelphia, xx Cornell Law Review xxx (1998)

  1046. Bitterlaw says:

    I support the death penalty. Here is my proposal to make it race-neutral in its application:

    1. If a defendant can not afford a lawyer, they are provided with a highly trained attorney who specialIke’s in death penalty cases. No expense for the defense will be spared. DNA testing will be required.

    2. Witnesses who lie will, upon conviction for perjury, be subject to the same penalty as the defendant in the ordinal trial. Lie in a death penalty case? Not a good idea.

    3. Upon conviction in a death penalty case, automatic appeals to both state and federal courts (Federal only in the rare Federal murder cases) that will be handled by highly trained appellate lawyers and an HBO film crew.

    4. After steps 1-3, the execution should be carried out so the percentage of guilty people should be identical regardless of race – 100%

    Discuss

  1047. Redmen4ever says:

    Race-norming execution:

    The only fair way to perform step 4 is to have a lottery. When the condemned in the disparetely-effected group presents him-, her-, their- or itself for execution, dice are thrown, or bones, or a card is drawn from a deck, or a numbered ball is picked out of a powerball canister. During this, the copyright holder willing, a gristled voice says “you gotta ask yourself, punk, do ya’ feel lucky.” If the condemned lucks out, he is released by a side door, in a dark alley, where electronic jamming equipment disables all recording devices. Then, something might befall the person, but at least he wouldn’t be executed by the state.

  1048. NYCmike says:

    Redmen,

    Did you see the end of step 4?

    “– 100%”

  1049. Weeble says:

    Where’s Wobbles?

  1050. NYCmike says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PpNwiTS-plE

    -Corker vs Pompeo?

    Not even a contest. Pompeo buried him, put a Cork(er) in it!

  1051. Tina says:

    Pompeo did bury mullah corker.

    Hopefully, corners replacement is an upgrade,

  1052. Chicon says:

    Pompeo seems like a guy who’d be very tough to debate. Like Cheney.

  1053. lisab says:

    it is also increasing clear the people running the fbi are like robbie

    do you really want to trust a crime lab run by robbies? oh … this white powder is flour … oh wait, the defendent is a white guy from pa … i mean it was cocaine

    one guy in massachusetts got 20 years for a cashew. he sold a white powder to a cop. he knew it was a cashew, so he did not plea bargain. lab said it was meth.

    potentially hundreds if not thousands of cases wil be overturned because of one lab person gone rogue

    you cannot roll back a death sentence once it is carried out

  1054. lisab says:

    i have zero doubt that if robbie was on a jury, he would vote against anyone he found out supported trump

    especially in a civil case …

    your honor we find that the man in the maga hat used extreme malice aforethought when he did not bake that lesbian couple a wedding cake … we award the couple 567 bazillion gazzillion dollars

  1055. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1077. “Whichever measures the researchers employed, the statistics pointed to the same conclusion: black defendants on average face a distinctly higher risk of receiving a death sentence than all other similarly situated defendants.”

    Am curious what were the racial demographics of the juries involved? My hunch is African-American juries were the ones sentencing other African-Americans to death. Statistical variation is not proof of bias. Also need a description of the crimes involved in the study; some gang related killings, as an example, can be very old blooded and gruesome.
    The study by itself does not prove bias.

  1056. lisab says:

    speaking of trials, i was recently selected for jury duty for federal district court … my service was 90 days and/or one trial although they did not promise just one trial, i.e. i guess they could have put me on multiple trials within 90 days …

    sometimes it pays to be a former peace corps volunteer …

    lisab: soooooooo … when do i get to be on a trial?

    clerk: you filled out your questionaire in violet ink

    lisab: it was lavendar … so when?

    clerk: ummmmmmm … i see you are a teacher … i don’t think we should make you serve …

    lisab: don’t be silly … what’s the address? i can be there monday …

    clerk: maybe you could try the state courts, they might have an opening … (click)

  1057. Tina says:

    Rottie also kicks people off his imaginary plane.

  1058. Bitterlaw says:

    1082 So NYC thinks a person he supports did better in a debate against somebody he does not support? Shocking.

  1059. lisab says:

    Am curious what were the racial demographics of the juries involved? My hunch is African-American juries were the ones sentencing other African-Americans to death. Statistical variation is not proof of bias. Also need a description of the crimes involved in the study; some gang related killings, as an example, can be very old blooded and gruesome.
    The study by itself does not prove bias.
    –—————-

    actually the studies indicate that prosecutors are almost always white, and that they try to avoid black juries at all cost, despite that being unlawful

    ” Statistics from the race study in Philadelphia discussed above showed that from 1983 to 1993 prosecutors struck 52% of all black potential jurors, but only 23% of other potential jurors.”

  1060. lisab says:

    mind you, they struck the black jurors at twice the rate of other jurors AFTER the jury pool had already been death sentence certified … that is after the potential jurors said they would potentially impose the death penalty

    since whites are far more likely to support the death penalty than blacks, they are more likely to get on the juries

    25% of blacks are eliminated from consideration BEFORE the lawyers get their challenges

    and of course white juries are more likely to convict black defendents, in florida 16% more likely — this goes away if even one black juror is on the jury

  1061. DW says:

    The Mets managed to beat the Pirates today, but their starting pitcher, Zach Wheeler, had to do everything. He had to pitch a gem, which he did, allowing no runs, and he had to hit a double to drive in the only Mets run so they could win 1-0.

  1062. jason says:

    Zzzzzzz…

    All this means is that fewer people who should be executed get executed. It’s an argument for more executions not less.

    And opposition to the death penalty disqualifies you, whether you are black or white.

    And even if white juries are “more likely by 16%” ( I bet that is BS anyway) to convict, it doesn’t mean anybody is innocent or not deserving of the death penalty.

    All the opposition to the death penalty is based on liberal garbage.

  1063. DW says:

    The Phillies have yet to win ever since the Mets gave them their best hitter.

    The Mets are absolutely a jinx.

  1064. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1092. The statistics, which I questions, miss the overriding issue. Did those executed commit murders that would justify the death penalty? Is there a claim that anyone was falsely convicted? There needs to be a comparison of the nature of the crimes between those executed and those who were not.

  1065. lisab says:

    in texas, which is death row central, approximately 62% of murder arrests are of whites, 37% blacks. 43% of death row inmates are black, 27% are white

    blacks make up 12% of the state

    (hispanics are on death row at about the same rate as non-hispanic whites)

  1066. lisab says:

    1096

    yes, severity of the crime was accounted for

    actually being black is worse than stabbing someone multiple times as far as being put on death row

    that is, stabbing someone multiple times was less likely to get you death row than being black

  1067. Diamond Jim says:

    🙂

  1068. Diamond Jim says:

    MC

  1069. Tina says:

    Rudy G has coined the phrase:

    Obstruction by tweeting.

  1070. Messy says:

    Drat, missed it again.

  1071. Big Joe says:

    Damn .. Grandmaster Sexay and Nikolai Volkoff leave us on the same day. RIP gentlemen.

    Big Joe

  1072. CG says:

    Well that figures, the Roy Moore debacle is still so fresh, I mislabeled the first Race of the Day.

    http://cgpolitics.blogspot.com/2018/07/alabama-governor-race-of-day.html

  1073. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    If anyone thinks that Kamala Harris hasn’t been tainted by California’s corrupt politics. She is in very deep in a public utilities scandal, involving trying to shift billions of dollars of costs associated with the closure of the San Onofre nuclear plant to the taxpayers.

    https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/apr/24/ticker-attorney-general-kamala-harris-malpractice/

    You can get away with this sort of cronyism in California, but it will not play nationally.

  1074. Redmen4ever says:

    1080 – you’re into process equality, the other side is into results equality

    “We hold these truths, at this time, to be evident to the elite, that all persons and perdaughters are made equal, that they are endowed by the government with certain un-document-dependent entitlements, that among these entitlements are abortion, healthcare and an Obamaphone.”

  1075. Robbie says:

    The inevitable switch from “no collusion, no collusion!” to “collusion’s not a crime” has begun.

    Abby D. Phillip
    @abbydphillip

    Rudy Giuliani, attorney for President Trump: “Colluding about Russians — I’m not sure that’s even a crime. The hacking is the crime.”

  1076. Wes says:

    lisab says:
    July 29, 2018 at 5:46 pm

    1096

    yes, severity of the crime was accounted for

    actually being black is worse than stabbing someone multiple times as far as being put on death row

    that is, stabbing someone multiple times was less likely to get you death row than being black

    Hey, Lisa, the monster who butchered my ex-girlfriend in 2011 and killed two other people was black and stabbed someone multiple times. He got life in prison. GFY.

  1077. Wes says:

    JC says:
    July 26, 2018 at 6:58 pm

    @832 SanDiegoCitizen

    Well said. Especially with the economy roaring the way it is now and the reversal of massive trade imbalances. Not to mention a disproportionate benefit of this growth is going to the rust belt states.

    Which democrat is going to beat Trump? Who is going to wrestle away the rust belt voters from his coalition?

    Andrew Cuomo.

  1078. Wes says:

    Now Blankenship is saying the state law the WVSOS relied on to bounce him from his Senate bid is unconstitutional and expects to file an appeal. This guy is just determined to help Manchin win.

  1079. DW says:

    Wes, I am not sure…given his behavior, at some point Blankenship’s support will dwindle down to just the morons who wouldn’t have ever voted Morrisey anyway.

  1080. DW says:

    47/51 Rasmussen today

  1081. Wes says:

    I think Duelian and Mikey cowrote Blankenship’s letter of intent to try to overturn the WV sore loser law. It’s larded with self-serving attacks on the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil “Establishment”:

    The establishment rejected my application for ballot access today. This came as no surprise.

    In doing so, the ESTABLISHMENT politicians are ignoring the Constitution to benefit themselves. By controlling who can and who cannot be on the election ballot this fall, they are trying to control who can and who cannot get elected to the United States Senate. It’s clear that the ESTABLISHMENT thinks they should have special privileges and rights, but the United States and the West Virginia Constitutions say they cannot do that.

    We will be filing a COURT claim next week that the “sore loser” law the ESTABLISHMENT is relying on is unconstitutional. We are confident, that absent yet another political court decision, the denial of my certificate of announcement will be overturned. We are looking forward to running a spirited campaign for U.S. Senate as the only candidate who is not supported by Planned Parenthood and opiate drug distributing companies.

    The government said in federal court that I should be treated more harshly because “my free speech troubles the United States” but that’s not true. My free speech troubles politicians, not the United States. It troubles politicians so much that they tried to put me in prison for life based on false charges. Charges they knew were not true. Charges so blatantly false that I did not even put on a defense argument, and yet I was found not guilty of all three felony charges.

    Any fair Judge will vote to reverse the “sore loser law.” A law written by the real “sore losers” to protect themselves—the “establishment politicians.”

  1082. DW says:

    Baldwin 49
    Nicholson 40

    This could be a race to keep an eye on. Ron Johnson trailed badly at times to Feingold, and still won.

  1083. Wes says:

    I think Nicholson will have the same problem after the primary Tommy Thompson had in 2012, DW: no money.

  1084. DW says:

    Wes,

    I should be allowed to run for Senate in West Virginia. I live in Virginia, but the law that separated Virginia from West Virginia back in the 19th century was unconstitutional and pushed through by the ESTABLISHMENT…so I will file an appeal that the evil establishment law get overthrown so that I can rightfully run for West Virginia senate.

  1085. DW says:

    Tommy Thompson’s other problem was that he was old, looked old, and viewed as someone whose time had passed–because it had.

  1086. DW says:

    In a new poll, Hunter (R-Inc) leads CA_50 51/42 over the dem challenger

  1087. Wes says:

    Thompson had one other problem: the Mikey-endorsed Eric Hovde. Hovde spent the primary savaging Thompson as insufficiently conservative. Now think about that for a minute. Thompson created welfare reform in the early 1990s, but was not a conservative according to Hovde. It boggles the mind.

    In any event, Hovde used his wealth to force Thompson to deplete his campaign warchest. For the remaining few weeks of the campaign, Thompson was essentially penniless and lost by a 45-51 margin to one of the most radical leftists in Congress.

  1088. Wes says:

    Having been among the first settlers of the area that would later become West virginia, Walt should demand it’s his turn to be Senator from the state and get the law preventing him from being the GOP standardbearer after someone else won the primary overturned because the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil “Establishment” is clearly trying to keep him off the ballot.

  1089. Tina says:

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/30/facts-behind-trump-tower-meeting-incriminating-not-trump/

    Excellent article on the drat collusion. There is a focus on Natalia and why she met with fusion goes before and after the trump jr tower meeting.

    A focus on Bruce Ohr and his spouse, Ugly Ohr.

    The focus is now on the Ohrs since Pete the Cheat has been dissected. http://thefederalist.com/2018/07/30/facts-behind-trump-tower-meeting-incriminating-not-trump/

  1090. Tina says:

    Also, Natalia was photographed with obamas ambassador to Russia, a corrupt individual.

    Natalia got a special visa to stay in the country.

    Her actions and motives are questionable.

  1091. Chicon says:

    1119 – now we’ll look for The Toupee to move the race to toss-up.

  1092. Robbie says:

    Tariffs are great!

    CNBC
    @CNBC

    Caterpillar says tariffs will cost the company up to $200 million in second half so it’s raising prices.

  1093. DW says:

    The forecasters are all now herding as well. Cook usually leads the way, then Sabato follows along behind. So CNN doesn’t want to look too pro-GOP, so they make all the changes to keep up with Cook and Sabato as they all cheer for Dem takeover. Little of this has anything to do with actual polling or other metrics in each race, its just something they think should happen.

    12 more changes CNN changes, all in Dem favor:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ——————————————————————————-
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | RRH | Kos | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ——————————————————————————-
    NC_08 R | 150 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    OH_15 R | 151 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    PA_14* D | 152 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.4 —
    IN_09 R | 153 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    WA_03 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    CA_22 R | 155 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 — 49/41 (PPP)
    OH_07 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    OH_10 R | 157 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    NY_23 R | 158 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Ln R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    AZ_06 R | 159 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    AZ_08 R | 160 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    TX_31 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    CO_03 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    MO_02 R | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    CA_50 R | 164 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 — 51/42 (Tulchin Res.)
    SC_01 R | 165 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    FL_15* R | 166 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    IN_02 R | 167 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    FL_06* R | 168 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    MI_01 R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    NC_02 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    CA_04 R | 171 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    OH_14 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    PA_16 R | 173 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.2 — 48/43 (PPP) | 50/44 (D-Int)
    WI_06 R | 174 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    FL_25 R | 175 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 46/39 (St. Pete)
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    MI_06 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    TX_21* R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    GA_07 R | 179 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_18 R | 180 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    NY_24 R | 181 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_16 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | 3.7 — 49/37 (PPP)
    IL_14 R | 183 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 — 45/41 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 184 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    CA_21 R | 185 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    VA_05 R | 186 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    IL_13 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.4 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NY_01 R | 188 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.4 —
    GA_06* R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.1 —
    AR_02 R | 190 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | 2.8 — 47/42 (PPP)
    NJ_03 R | 191 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 — 48/44 (D-Int.) | 42/42 (GSG-D)
    WA_05 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 — 48/45 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 193 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 —
    NC_13 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.5 — 43/40 (PPP) | 40/35 (Civitas)
    OH_01 R | 195 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.2 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MT_01 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | 2.2 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    VA_02 R | 197 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 198 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | 2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    WV_03* R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Lk R | 1.7 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    TX_32 R | 200 | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 —
    UT_04 R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 — 47/43 | 45/39 (Salt Lake Trib.)
    KS_03 R | 202 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 —
    ME_02 R | 203 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 45/35
    MI_08 R | 204 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 46/41 (PPP)
    WI_01* R | 205 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 —
    NE_02 R | 206 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.2 —
    IA_03 R | 207 | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 — 44/43 (PPP) | 41/45 (D-Int.)
    VA_07 R | 208 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.1 —
    KY_06 R | 209 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 —
    KS_02* R | 210 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    OH_12* R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 46/35 (JMC Analytics) | 48/43 (D-Int.) | 48/45 (D-Inc)
    IL_06 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 45/44 (Garin-Hart-D) | 44/37 (Victory Res.)
    PA_01 R | 213 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 49/42
    CA_45 R | 214 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.8 — 43/46 (PPP)
    IL_12 R | 215 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 0.8 — 44/39 (PPP)
    MN_03 R | 216 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 0.8 — 43/46 (PPP)
    TX_07 R | 217 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | 0.7 — 47/45 (D-Int.) | 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    NJ_07 R | 218 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.7 — 41/42 (PPP) | 45/47 (GQR-D)
    NC_09* R | 217 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.7 — 42/37 (PPP) | 36/43 (Civitas) | 43/44 (D-Int)
    NY_19 R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.4 — 41/43 (PPP)
    TX_23 R | 215 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 44/43 (PPP)
    IA_01 R | 214 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.2 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    WA_08* R | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.2 — 51/45
    CA_10 R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/37 (ALG-D)
    CA_25 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 49/42 (Srat. 360-D) | 45/40 (GSG-D)
    CA_48 R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 48/44 (D-Internal) | 45/47 (Monmouth)
    CO_06 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/47 (D-Int)
    NY_22 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    FL_26 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.1 — 45/40 (DCCC-D)
    MN_01* D | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    MN_02 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MN_08* D | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    MI_11* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.2 — 42/45 (PPP)
    PA_17 R | 201 | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.5 — 39/51 (Monmouth)
    PA_07* R | 200 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | -0.7 —
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -1 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Monmouth)
    VA_10 R | 198 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.4 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    CA_49* R | 197 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.4 — 41/44 (Feldman) | 46/43 (R-Int)
    NH_01* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | -1.5 —
    AZ_02* R | 195 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | -1.5 —
    NV_03* D | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -2.5 —
    NV_04* D | 192 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -2.5 — 37/42 (D Internal)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.7 —
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.1 —
    MN_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.4 —
    PA_08 D | 188 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.4 —
    NJ_05 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    PA_06* R | 186 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | -3.7 —
    CA_07 D | 185 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.2 —
    NJ_02* R | 184 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    CT_05* D | 183 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | Ln D | -4.2 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    AZ_09* D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -4.8 —
    CA_24 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 — 46/47 (Olive Tree St.)
    NY_18 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.1 —
    WI_03 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —
    IA_02 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —
    NY_25 D | 175 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | -5.4 —

    *indicates open seat

  1094. Wes says:

    Sometimes this guy can be overly enthusiastic in his optimism, but I find him a refreshing contrast to the normal doom and gloom prevalent on RRH:

    cer July 30, 2018 at 11:03 am | In reply to election brown

    Don’t underestimate Walker’s ability to pull a rabbit out of his hat and win re-election. He is a survivor, and it would be incredibly dumb to write him off.
    Conservative first, Republican second!

  1095. Wes says:

    Thoughts, Mikey:

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/25/politics/kelli-ward-martha-mcsally-arizona-primary/index.html

    We apparently have a female Don Blankenship in AZ.

  1096. Wes says:

    An RRH poster is recommending closing up shop in Arizona before the fall campaign. I don’t know what to say:

    Manhatlibertarian July 30, 2018 at 11:18 am | In reply to election brown

    I know a lot of people here like McSally, but I think Sinema is the Dem most likely to pick up a seat in the Senate according to polls I have seen . So I don’t know the wisdom of the national GOP putting a lot of $ into this race. IMO the money would probably be better spent in Nevada and Tenn and also to try and knock out Red State Dems like McCaskill and Heitkamp. Ariz has been slowly trending Dem and Sinema has been able to create a centrist image on economics and immigration. I know some people will say it is really window dressing until she gets into the Senate, but right now it appears her image has been successful politically for her. As in the House, with the way Nov looks, the Repubs have to do a little political triage.

  1097. Wes says:

    Why exactly are Martha McSally’s constituents worried about money the NRA sends her? I find this rather implausible:

    https://tucson.com/opinion/letters/politics-national/letter-who-does-martha-mcsally-represent/article_668634ce-91e9-11e8-a967-e33abe646db5.html

  1098. Wes says:

    Ah, to hear Tea Partiers caterwaul and distance themselves from anything remotely resembling reality:

    https://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2018/07/30/conservatives-dreading-a-martha-mcsally-senate-win-in-arizona-n2504953

  1099. Tina says:

    https://www.axios.com/rudy-giuliani-robert-mueller-investigation-trump-report-a1f03c5e-425c-4759-a6d0-8950ae17278a.html

    Rudy slams Fuhrer Mulehead.

    Put up or shut up, you corrupt pos, friend of comedy, u1 scammer.

  1100. Waingro says:

    Ooph. Another bad poll for Scott Walker showing him down by 7 to Evers in Wisconsin. He has some work to do.

    https://www.emerson.edu/sites/default/files/Files/Academics/ecp-pr-wi-7.28.18.pdf

  1101. Tina says:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/07/oh-the-horror-russians-hack-yankee-stadium-unfurl-large-trump-2020-banner/

    Muh Russians unfurl large trump banner in Yankee stadium.

    Where are Fuhrer Mulehead and Redactstein?

  1102. NYCmike says:

    Wes’s panties are bunched up again, I guess. Go get married, will you please.

    ALL Republicans in a primary should end up supporting the winner, be it McSally, Ward, Arpaio, Blankenship, Jenkins, etc.

    Do you disagree, Wes-ley?

  1103. Wes says:

    That’s fair enough, Mikey. Why are your preferred candidates not doing that?

  1104. Tina says:

    Fwiw, Larry Schweikart is bullish on Mcsallys chances in Arizona. Sinema will have to defend abolishing ICE.

    Also claims that Rs may be able to flip 1/2 house seats in Az.

  1105. Wes says:

    Where do you see that, Tina? All I see from Schweikart related to McSally is bashing and Kelli Ward hagiographies.

  1106. NYCmike says:

    “Why are your preferred candidates not doing that?”

    -If my “preferred candidates” are a figment of your imagination, I’ll wait for you to come to your senses, instead of trying to change your mind. In the meantime, you can continue to make me laugh. I appreciate it.

  1107. Tina says:

    Senator Paul on board regarding Kavanaugh. Will vote for him.

  1108. NYCmike says:

    In regard to Scott Walker, I wonder if candidate fatigue is setting in.*

    While I believe he will prevail, since he seems to know how to get his voters to the polls, there is always the chance Wisconson-ians will look for a change, just for the sake of it. If the Democrat stays normal, and doesn’t get all deranged, that person could win.

    *The poll numbers add up to 101%. Somewhere, in a basement, CCCP Cory is smiling!

  1109. Tina says:

    I think that Paul’s initial concerns with Kavanaugh was for the bulk warrant less collection when Kavanaugh worked for Mute 43.

  1110. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/hfinch61/media/grid?idx=0

    Cohen pictured with Her Thighness.

    Does he have audio tapes of her too?

  1111. Wes says:

    Mikey’s list of preferred candidates since 2010:

    Christine O’Donnell
    Ken Buck
    Sharron Angle
    Dick the Misogynist Bastard Mourdock
    Todd Akin
    Eric Hovde
    Duane Sand
    Steve Stockman
    Lee Bright
    Matt Bevin (pre 2015 conversion to reality)
    Greg Brannon
    Larry Rhoden
    Gordon Howie
    Milton “Josef Mengele” Wolf
    Rob Maness
    Joe Miller
    Marlin Stutzman
    Aaron Day
    Kelli Ward

    It’s like a Who’s Who? of Schumer’s wet dream candidates for the Senate Mikey’s been backing for the past eight years.

  1112. NYCmike says:

    The best part about that list is I don’t know some of them.

    Who the heck is Larry Rhoden, Duane Sand, Steve Stockman, Lee Bright, Greg Bannon, Gordon Howie?(…I do know Gordie Howe….).

    Like I said, Wes is good for laughs every day……I do wish I had been invited to his wedding…..did you ever get married?

  1113. NYCmike says:

    And just in time to avoid Wes’s craziness…..n/t!

  1114. NYCmike says:

    MCL

  1115. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez speaks again:

    “I am being misrepresented again by career politicians. Let me be clear. The 2 trillion in new taxes I have proposed will come from rich corporations who are not paying taxes right now. One these companies start paying taxes, it might hurt the yacht industry but it will help everyone else.”

  1116. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez speaks even more:

    “Yes, the free college education will be paid for by the government, not by taxpayers. The same for free healthcare for all. This is an issue of compassion. Once healthcare is free for all, and profit is taken out of healthcare, then options will increase, access will be made available to all, costs will plummet, and everyone will get the doctor they want.

    I also want the government to take over the communications businesses in America because every person is entitled to free smart phones, free internet and free cable TV.”

  1117. Tina says:

    Occasional-Cortez

    What is gdp?

    What is 4.1?

    What is a percent?

  1118. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez responds:

    “What is a percent?”

    Stop mocking me. Everyone knows a percent is when someone buys something and pays for it with pennies.

  1119. DW says:

    Ocasio-Cortez responds:

    What is gdp?

    I was just joking with you. That’s another easy one. GDP means Government Dependent People. It sent a thrill up my spine when I saw that number jump last week.

  1120. DW says:

    Back in May PPP-D had Balderson up only two, so this has to be disappointing news to Democrats and HHR trolls.