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Donnelly Leads Braun By 12% in IN, Blackburn Leads Bredesen By 4% in TN

An intersting contrast in two new US Senate polls and what it means for November. The Trafalgar Group has released a new poll for the state of Indiana that shows Democratic incumbent Joe Donnelly with a comfortable double-digit lead over Republican Mike Braun.

US SENATE – INDIANA (Trafalgar)
Joe Donnelly (D-inc) 51%
Mike Braun (R) 39%

This poll was done July 31-AUgust 7 among 1420 likely voters. Meanwhile, Gravis Marketing has better news for Republicans in Tennessee, where their new poll shows Marsha Blackburn with a 4% lead over Phil Bredesen.

US SENATE – TENNESSEE (Gravis)
Marsha Blackburn (R-inc) 48%
Phil Bredesen (D) 44%

This poll was done August 9-11 among 620 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 3:30 pm
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1,242 Responses to “Donnelly Leads Braun By 12% in IN, Blackburn Leads Bredesen By 4% in TN”

  1. Tina says:

    Coup plotter, Comrade Brennan aka Con rat Brennan had his security clearance revoked.

    No words on you tube rice or clapper.

  2. Waingro says:

    Stick Florida in the “flip” column. Nelson is DONE.

    Wired Sources
    ? @WiredSources

    BREAKING: Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL) admits in secret recording that he fabricated claim, which broke headlines, that Russians penetrated Florida election systems in 2018

    https://twitter.com/WiredSources/status/1029799399004753920

  3. dblaikie says:

    143 from last thread. Boy can I call it. CNN though should have been my first choice. Now RCP can remove the two bogus generic polls from July, insert the really bogus CNN poll and the average will stay around 4 or five points. But the added bonus is that now the talking are safe to drone on and on about the tremendous blue wave that isn’t going to happen.

    Since I was right about this, I will go out on a limb again and I predict that the GOP will pick up 3 Senate seats, and 3 house seats which in an off year election with Trump is a red tsunami. Just remember you heard it hear first.

  4. DW says:

    3 – I appreciate your optimism on the US House, but the GOP has already lost PA_05 and PA_06 to the legislators in black robes who probably also gave Dems PA_07 and PA_17. GOP also has very likely already lost NJ_02 and FL_27.

    To make up these six, the GOP already has PA_14 from the aforementioned judges, but would also have to win MN_01, MN_08, NH_01 and NV_03 along with one more seat currently lean or likely D. That’s to break even. Then to go +3 would have to pick off three more currently Lean or Likely D. And then the GOP would have to hold all of their other vulnerable seats currently in the rage of Lean R to Lean D. I count about 35 of them.

    Can the GOP find a way to hold a majority? Yes.
    Can the GOP find a way to go +3? No.

  5. Tina says:

    Fabricated a muh Russian hoax.

    A lot in common with the coup plotters and Fuhrer Mulehead.

  6. NYCmike says:

    Did anyone mention Wisconsin race?

    https://freebeacon.com/politics/leah-vukmir-wins-wisconsin-gop-primary-challenge-tammy-baldwin/

    “Prior to Tuesday’s primary, Uihlein and Hendricks agreed to a unity fundraiser to support the nominee in an attempt to defeat Baldwin this November.”

  7. NYCmike says:

    “”Wisconsin needs a senator who represents and will work for the people who make our state great — not the far left or out-of-touch elites,” Vukmir said. “Sen. Tammy Baldwin has been a disaster our state. She’s put America last, supporting the dangerous Iran deal, standing with extremist socialists like Bernie Sanders who support government-run health care, and failing our veterans at the Tomah VA.””

    -Take it to them, (Princess) Leah!

  8. NYCmike says:

    dblaikie,

    I think you are incorrect on +3 for the House. If Republicans go +3 in House, they will go +9 on Senate.

    I can see holding the House, and an increase of 3-5 Senate seats.

    We could, and should, win 5+ Senate seats! Get out there and fight!

  9. dblaikie says:

    DW as you probably know I like being out there on a limb. And I fully recognize that Charlie with the bad toupee would scoff at me. However in my 61 years I have discovered that generic numbers always inflate the dems. Yes I believe that by Nov. the GOP will win most of those 35 house seats plus I predict that a number of likely Dem. seats will go down. If my prediction goes down it might as well go down in flames.

  10. mnw says:

    WI SEN GOP primary:

    I always thought that Nicholson would have been the stronger GE candidate. I still do. However, after the brutal GOP SEN primary, I don’t think Vukmir has a prayer at this point.

    If the WI GOP had united behind a single candidate early on (as it did in MO, FL & ND, Baldwin could’ve been vulnerable, imo. We’ll never know now.

  11. NYCmike says:

    mnw,

    Unity seems to be the message of the day that I saw.

    A spirited campaign, with all candidates, winner and loser, unified behind a goal of defeating “extremist socialists like Bernie Sanders”, sounds like a good plan.

  12. mnw says:

    NYC 13

    Sorry I don’t agree. Vukmir & Nicholson exhausted their respective donors, while Baldwin sits rich & happy waiting for the survivor, with mega-bucks COH.

    That’s just not how you take down an incumbent, even if the voters forget all the nasty exchanges from the primary– which Baldwin will now re-package & use against Vukmir. “Even other Republicans know she’s a tool of big pharma!” etc.

    Even if the GOP clears the way for a chosen unity candidate (Hawley), & avoids a an expensive primary, this is still a dicey endeavor under the best of circumstances.

  13. Bitterlaw says:

    PA-5 might not be lost. The GOP is running a young Korean-American woman with legal immigrant parents. She has experience prosecuting pervs and predators. Her opponent is a old flaming lib.

  14. Redmen4ever says:

    I have some preliminary results in a study of this year’s Governor races, with a model of voter intentions that includes whether the one party has a “competitive primary.” (When both parties have competitive primaries, the effects off-set.) Yes, the impact is very significant. I suppose the same is true in Senate races, but I have yet to assemble the data. I am also interested in the tendency of the winners of primaries to recover from this impact.

  15. janz says:

    mnw. Thank you.

  16. Bitterlaw says:

    Ohio beats Pennsylvania 3-0 to win Little League Softball World Series. The players are 11 to 13 years old. Really great pitching from both teams. PA had costly errors.

    I love what the losing coach told his girls. He said they lost to a really good team but that did not change who they were all season. I was also impressed by the Ohio coach. This was his last game after 12 years win or lose. The winning pitcher just thanked her defense.

    I

  17. Bitterlaw says:

    Interesting fact – This the first time a team from Ohio has won a Little League title in softball or baseball. Great job, ladies.

  18. CG says:

    What I wrote on the Illinois Governor race is far too long (and unproofread) to be read in one sitting, so please feel free to skip of course, unless you have Jury Duty or a kidney stone or are an imprisoned ex-Illinois Governor or something and are desperate to pass the time…

    http://cgpolitics.blogspot.com/2018/08/illinois-governor-race-of-day.html

  19. Tina says:

    America was never that great.

    -cuomo,

    I think he may have wrecked his chance to be President.

  20. mnw says:

    janz

    No problem. I’ll just use GoFundMe, then.

  21. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Martha McSalley up by 20 pts. over Chemtrails Kelly Ward–47/27/13(Sheriff Joe)– in the Aug. 28th AZ GOP primary.
    Overall, I am feeling more optimistic about the GOP’s keeping this seat in the Fall.

    https://www.abc15.com/news/state/poll-martha-mcsally-solidifying-lead-for-gop-senate-nomination

  22. jason says:

    I am not optimistic the deadenders will unite behind McSalley.

  23. Messy says:

    3. RCP’s generics now pretty much agree with each other, with the GOP at ~41%. Even Rasmussen has the Democrats up by 7.

    2018 Generic Congressional Vote Economist/YouGov Democrats 44, Republicans 40
    CNN Democrats 52, Republicans 41 Quinnipiac Democrats 51, Republicans 42
    Rasmussen Democrats 48, Republicans 41

    The only exception is Reuters/Ipsos which is: Democrats 45, Republicans 36

  24. GPO says:

    Tina says:

    August 16, 2018 at 3:59 am

    America was never that great.

    -cuomo,

    I think he may have wrecked his chance to be President.

    But may have increased his chances for the D nomination 🙂

  25. Robbie says:

    Since this has become a MAGA forum, I’m curious to know if Jason fraud and the rest agree with this. I have no doubt the Trumpaloos will spin a terrible November loss as good for Trump, but I’m surprised they’re already spinning how a loss is actually good three months before the election.

    Let’s be honest. Renominating an impeached president is electoral brilliance. Amirite?

    Amanda Carpenter
    @amandacarpenter

    I read in Playbook today that a growing number of Trump backers believe if the Dems take the House and impeach Trump it would help Trump in 2020. That’s Trump derangement syndrome.

  26. Wes says:

    Dblaikie, Republicans have exactly a zero percent chance of gaining seats in the House this year. That does not mean they won’t maintain control. It just means they aren’t going to increase their numbers.

  27. mnw says:

    jason

    Will respectable, DECENT, “non-deadeners” unite behind Kobach, or… does it only work one way?

    I’m sure Dr. Ward will support McSally, fwiw– Ward’s supporters would vote for McSally anyway, thanks to McSally’s 180 turn on immigration.

    As for Sheriff Joe, he’s not a politician. I don’t know (or care) what the old gentleman does, & I doubt it will make any difference.

  28. Phil says:

    Actually, Robbie, the more Democrats overplay their hand, the more they play right into the hands of Trump in 2020. Impeachment is the ultimate overplay. Outside of the Democratic loon base, there is no appetite among the general electorate to get bogged down in an impeachment process especially when we will have another election coming in less than two years. Sane Democrats recognize this. The question is, are their any sane Democrats left out there? Can they control themselves?

  29. Phil says:

    Wes, how about your current assessment of NC 9 and NC 13.

  30. Wes says:

    While that is true, Phil, if Republicans lose the House, they will blame Trump. Even backlash over impeachment may not be enough to save him electorally then if the GOP cools significantly toward him for costing him the House after they backed him to the hilt despite his seesaw political past in 2016.

  31. Wes says:

    I think Republicans hang on in NC-13 but lose NC-9 at this point, Phil. Harris isn’t a bad candidate per se, but he isn’t the best fit for the district. That said, he is running a decent campaign. He even got my significant other to run around the county getting people to commit to early voting for him.

    She tried to get me to sign up for it, but I told her I refuse to vote before Election Day. Even so, I think Harris will lose narrowly in November.

  32. Tina says:

    Mcsally will win. If she can unify, she will beat Sinema, who will have to defend abolishing Ice, Piglosi, the fib scandals, and the statements that our country sucks by ugly cuomo.

    We have gained significant net registrations in az since 2016.

  33. Tina says:

    Look for Ohr to be fired soon.

    Clearly ran this operation through comrade clapper,

    Clearly lied on his statement about his wife’s involvement with Fusion.

  34. Wes says:

    While Pelosi and the other things may be factors in the race, Tina, I highly doubt Arizonans know or care what Cuomo says. If I were McSally, I wouldn’t try to drag Cuomo into a race he has nothing to do with.

  35. Tina says:

    I would not wan to be a candidate among the ds with those hanging around my neck.

    No need for Mcsalky to mention it, Wes. Speaks for itself and will motivate our turnout.

  36. Tina says:

    Is Amanda Carpenter filing a new false assault claim?

    I am not sure who is smartest out of that losah bunch?

    Her, the fake conservative at the compost, or the blob?

  37. Tina says:

    Looks like Pete the cheat, comrade Brennan, and comedy all believed in or supported communists at one time.

    I know fake media said comedy was a republican,

  38. Messy says:

    32. More than a century and a half ago, the “Cavoade Committee” launched an investigation into President Buchanan in order to find impeachable offenses. They didn’t find any (he didn’t actually make any until after the committee issued it’s report), but they caused him lots and lots of trouble. The HJC can do that, with the enemies list giving public testimony.

    36. Why would Sinema have to do that?

  39. Tina says:

    Now comes that renowned legal mind and constitutional genius Andrea Mitchell to excite the Jebot loons:

    Andrea Mitchell: Trump’s Cancellation of Brennan Clearance Could be “Obstruction of Justice”
    http://finkelblogger.com/2018/08/16/andrea-mitchell-trumps-cancellation-of-brennan-clearance-could-be-obstruction-of-justice/

  40. jason says:

    Will respectable, DECENT, “non-deadeners” unite behind Kobach, or… does it only work one way?”

    Translation: deadenders are ok because they can win a primary.

    Zzzzzzzz…..

  41. janz says:

    Andrea Mitchell just gets sillier & sillier in her statements. In fact most of the objectivity of the MSM is becoming so narrow that not even midget mice could squeeze through the opening to achieve some real journalistic analysis!

  42. jason says:

    If “Dr” Chemtrails endorses McSalley I will be surprised, she might have her deadender credentials revoked.

  43. janz says:

    R.I.P Aretha Franklin. It’s a great music loss.

  44. Phil says:

    Wait a minute. Andrea thinks cancelling Brennan’s security clearance two years after the election is obstruction of justice?

    LMAO

  45. janz says:

    The tea leaves are mostly arranging themselves in the direction of McSally becoming the GOP candidate, especially with Trump behind her. If any of her opponents don’t get behind her it will be viewed as dissing the POTUS’s choice, and we all know how such positions fare.

  46. jason says:

    Since this has become a MAGA forum, I’m curious to know if Jason fraud and the rest agree with this.”

    I agree that if the Dems overplay their hand and try to impeach Trump without any evidence it would probably help Trump.

    If that happened you should be outraged too, Amoral Scumbag.

    But of course you won’t be, that is why you are an amoral scumbag.

  47. jason says:

    Is Amoral Scumbag outraged 350 fake news sites in tandem attack Trump for pointing out they are biased, dishonest and fake?

  48. Tina says:

    Comrade Brennan thinks it’s a free speech violation.

    Lol, Jebot logic there.

  49. janz says:

    This “Hissy Fit” Thursday event – as some are calling it – where 300+ newspapers are publishing editorials slamming the POTUS are apparently using the same editorial, rather then writing one in their own words.

    All this childish newsprint will make great bird cage carpet on Friday.

  50. NYCmike says:

    “Is Amoral Scumbag outraged 350 fake news sites in tandem attack Trump for pointing out they are biased, dishonest and fake?”

    -Robbie to deny that there was ever a “Journo-list” in 3…….2…….1…….

  51. Wes says:

    Rep. Barbara Comstock and Congresswoman-in-waiting (damnit!) Jennifer Wexton will debate Sept 21:

    https://www.loudountimes.com/news/comstock-wexton-to-debate-in-lansdowne-sept/article_f6d66cc8-9feb-11e8-8685-2b2801822fc7.html

  52. Wes says:

    So, Mikey, how fare the efforts to ensure Schumer becomes Majority Leader?

  53. NYCmike says:

    mnw is willing to support McSally.

    jason still hedging about supporting Kobach.

    Obviously, it’s the “deadenders” fault when Republicans lose close races…….

  54. Wes says:

    I’m glad you finally realized Maggie Hassan is only a Senator because your precious Deadenders found Kelly Ayotte to be less acceptable than a moonbat.

  55. jason says:

    jason still hedging about supporting Kobach.”

    Hedging?

    I already said I wouldn’t vote for him in a million years.

    GFY.

  56. Wes says:

    Kobach has a weak electoral history. He upset Adam Taff in the ’04 primary and ensured Dennis Moore got the first of three lopsided victories in a previously closely contested seat until Moore retired in 2010.

    Kobach won substantially in 2010 but was on his way to defeat along with Sam Brownback in 2014. Then Democrats committed a major political miscalculation and had Greg Orman target Pat Roberts. This caused Kansas Republicans to rally around all their GOP nominees and drag Kobach and Brownback across the finish line by reduced margins that year.

    He is the best shot the Dems have at winning the KS State House once more.

  57. jason says:

    “in an interview with The Tampa Bay Times, Mr. Nelson said Russians “had already penetrated certain counties in the state and they now have free rein to move about.”

    Mr. Scott and other state officials stressed the specificity of Mr. Nelson’s allegations last week, and reiterated that Florida was unaware of any such penetration. For days, Mr. Scott’s campaign has demanded Mr. Nelson either offer proof or explain how he wasn’t revealing classified information.

    Mr. Detzner took the additional step of writing the Department of Homeland Security and the FBI last Friday, asking for such information and assistance from federal officials by Monday.

    Sarah Revell, spokeswoman for the Florida Department of State, said her agency, which oversees elections “has received zero information from Senator Nelson or his staff that support his claims.”

    She added that “the Department has received no information from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Investigation or the Florida Department of Law Enforcement that corroborates Senator Nelson’s statement and we have no evidence to support these claims. If Senator Nelson has specific information about threats to our elections, he should share it with election officials in Florida.”

  58. jason says:

    He is the best shot the Dems have at winning the KS State House once more.”

    Send a message!

  59. jason says:

    mnw is willing to support McSally.”

    Wow, what a concession.

    Is he supposed to get a medal for this?

  60. mnw says:

    Wes

    Yes, I think Dr. Ward will support McSally, but nothing is certain until it happens.

    It’s instructive & enlightening to me to see jason acknowledge that “party unity” is for me (“deadender”) but not for him (see, e.g.., Kobach), because jason has… principles that are crucial to him, whereas I’m expected to swallow my own principles & just suck it up.

    Did I miss anything? Get anything wrong regarding jason?

  61. Wes says:

    I don’t regard you as a Deadender, Mnw. You’ve repeatedly acknowledged McSally is the best candidate in the race while Ward is a guaranteed loser.

    I disagree with Jason on Kobach because despite some poor campaigns and being a bad fit for a nonfederal race in Kansas, Kobach has been a loyal Republican and would not actively try to hurt the party (unlike Christine O’Donnell, for example).

    That said, Kobach should have recused himself from the primary recount and is a weak candidate, so I can see why Jason doesn’t like him. I hope he wins, but I don’t consider him any kind of favorite right now.

  62. Wes says:

    As far as Ward and McSally, I think Ward will refuse to support McSally. Otherwise she wouldn’t be hedging. I think Arpaio will endorse McSally (for whatever that’s worth), but I believe Ward is too far gone in egomania and Deadenderism to support the second person to beat her for a Senate nomination.

  63. Wes says:

    Fun fact:

    If Republicans gain seats from the Dems ion the Senate and lose none in November–a real possibility–that will be the first such occurrence for an incumbent President’s party since 1934.

  64. jason says:

    Leonydus Johnson @LeonydusJohnson

    “How dare the President criticize and accuse us for uniting together in a biased, dishonest attack against him! In order to protest, we will unite together in a biased, dishonest attack against him!”

  65. jason says:

    Ward is too far gone in egomania and Deadenderism”

    Yah thinks?

    The woman is a complete fruitcake.

  66. Wes says:

    Well, Mikey likes her, Jason. Of course Mikey also liked Dick the Misogynist Bastard Mourdock.

  67. jason says:

    disagree with Jason on Kobach because despite some poor campaigns and being a bad fit for a nonfederal race in Kansas, Kobach has been a loyal Republican and would not actively try to hurt the party”

    I agree he would not “actively” try to hurt the party but he is going to hurt it nonetheless.

    He might not be a COD but he will be used like she was to bash R candidates all over the country.

    I think he might win because the Dem and Orman will split the leftist vote, I think Orman is through pretending he is a moderate.

  68. jason says:

    Well, Mikey likes her, Jason.’

    Of course he likes her, she is one of his best chances to SEND A MESSAGE and throw away another senate seat to a liberal Dem.

    What is there not to like?

  69. Mr.Vito says:

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/08/15/botched-cia-communications-system-helped-blow-cover-chinese-agents-intelligence/

    “Over a two-year period starting in late 2010, Chinese authorities systematically dismantled the agency’s network of agents across the country, executing dozens of suspected U.S. spies.”

  70. jason says:

    Did I miss anything? Get anything wrong regarding jason?”

    Yeah, everything, what a crock of crap.

    Next question?

  71. Wes says:

    Well, Begich lands an endorsement. His high-profile campaign will hurt Walker:

    https://www.adn.com/opinions/2018/08/13/mark-begich-gets-things-done/

  72. Wes says:

    I like how the ADN says Begich “gets things done.” He was a fluke Senator who was in such trouble in 2014 he toppedoed his own reelection by flagrantly and falsely identifying his opponent with a brutal mass murderer. He even refused for a time to stop running ads about the incident despite the family’s request.

    It blew up in his face, and Sullivan led him from the time polls closed on Election Night to the time Begich conceded–without congratulating Sullivan, I might add–13 days later.

  73. jason says:

    Andrew Malcolm:

    “Had those elites of both parties paid genuine attention to flyover country’s concerns, frustrations and fears, as silly and stupid as they seem to disconnected Beltway know-it-all’s, they would not be in today’s baffling, powerless position. There would have been no need for a Trump. And by the way, isn’t it strange how a billionaire from a New York high-rise could detect the heartland’s hurt better than those elected from that region?

    Trump did not invent many Americans’ visceral dislike of the media. He’s using it, exactly as these 100+ newspapers will use their readers’ visceral dislike of Trump to influence a large audience on this day. It’s all fair game in a free society, even one as bitterly splintered as ours these days.

    Many silent Americans see a Washington paper, for example, chronicling in excess of 4,000 Trump exaggerations and lies. Fair enough.

    Where was that passion for lie detection during Obama’s endless reign of error when he spewed serial untruths about, among others, Solyndra, Fast and Furious, the IRS scandal, Benghazi’s video roots and how Americans could keep their insurance, doctor and about $2,500 in savings under Obamacare?

    Now, some realities: When’s the last time you read a newspaper editorial, online or in print, and thought, “You know, that anonymous writer is right and I’ve been wrong all these years!”

  74. jason says:

    Begich is a flaming big government liberal hack trying to pretend he is a fit for Alaska, a state where many are proud of their pioneering, self reliant and independent spirit.

  75. Redmen4ever says:

    Victory Research indicates Gov. Rauner has a chance. This is because support for third-party candidates is about equal to the margin enjoyed by the Democrat, and there are many undecideds.

    In 2016, about 3/4th of Gary Johnson’s support disappeared as the election approached, about equal to Trump’s gain in support over the same period. This put Trump in position to win the states he needed to win, by winning the undecided but likely voters.

    The problem is this: Trump only had to win one or two of about eight states in play, and he won three (MI, PA and WI, while losing CO, ME at large, MN, NH, NV and VA, and VA wasn’t really in play). With Rauner, it’s all or nothing on one state.

  76. Wes says:

    Let’s give him credit though, Jason:

    He’s so bitter over losing in 2014 he’s willing to launch a kamikaze mission against the incumbent Governor that will help Republicans in their effort to reclaim the state’s governorship.

  77. jason says:

    executing dozens of suspected U.S. spies.”

    Probably under the theory that if you execute enough “suspected spies”, you might actually kill one here and there.

  78. Redmen4ever says:

    Gov. Walker’s job approval numbers are very bad. And, he’s running third. The dynamic for independents and third-party candidates who are in third place is bad.

    By similar reasoning, Gary Johnson has to quickly establish himself as “the” alternative to Sen. Heinrich in New Mexico or else his currently impressive numbers will start to shrivel.

  79. DW says:

    Its early, but here is the first version of my Election night chronology for the US House races to watch:

    6 p.m.

    IN_02, IN_09; KY_06

    These three will set the early momentum. The two districts in Indiana are likely/safe R, but if the returns show a closer than expected race it could mean a long night for the GOP. The Kentucky seat is a tossup/tilt R, and will be the first test of the ‘blue-wave’ theory. So the returns here will be closely watched.

    7 p.m.

    GA_06 is Lean/Likely R and GA_07 is Likely R. The margins will be watched to see if they show any correlation to the similarly ranked seats in Indiana. SC_01 is Likely/Safe R, and also can be used to look for any national trend. However, Virginia will be the centerpiece of the 7 p.m. hour. VA_11 is Lean D, VA_07 is Tossup/Lean R, VA_02 is Lean R, VA_05 is Likely R. So the districts provide a nice scale to measure the strength of either party.

    The other big state to watch at the 7 p.m. close is Florida. All the competitive seats are in EDT, and they tend to count votes quickly. So the results in these races might set the direction earlier than Virginia: FL_06 (Likely/Safe R), FL_07 (Lean/Likely D), FL_15 (Likely/Safe R), FL_16 (Lean/Likely R), FL_18 & FL_25 (Likely R), FL_26 (Lean R) and FL_27 (Lean D flip). Given that many of these are Likely R, this will be an early test as to whether or not Democrats will enjoy a large-scale blue-wave.

    7:30 p.m.

    WV_03 (tossup)

    8 p.m.

    CT_05 is Likely/Safe D. Illinois will be closely watched with two seats ranked Tossup/Tilt R (IL_06, IL_12) and two seats Likely R (IL_13, IL_14). Similarly ME_02 is Tossup/Lean R. MO_02 is Likely/Safe R and not likely to surprise. The two seats in NH are likely to stay in Democrat hands, although they will take 10-12 hours counting the votes. NJ_02 is almost certain to flip D and NJ_05 leans that way. NJ_07 is a Tossup and NJ_03 is Lean R, so there is plenty to watch in New Jersey.

    Pennsylvania was shaken up by the activist court resulting in the GOP flipping PA_14, and the Democrats getting PA_05 and PA_06. The GOP held seats PA_07 ad PA_17 are Tossup/Lean D, while PA_01 is Tossup/Lean R. PA_08 is Likely D while PA_10 is Likely R.

    Other districts at the 8 p.m. hour include KS_02 and KS_03, both Tossup/Lean R, MI_06 and MI_07 both Likely R, MI_08 at Tossup/Lean R, MI_11 at Tossup/Lean D flip, and TX_07 (Tossup) and TX_32 (Tossup/Lean R)

    8:30 p.m.

    AR_02 is one of those seats that some believe flips to the Democrat in a strong blue-wave scenario. But by 8:30 there should already be a sense for whether or not AR_02 was ever in play.

    9 p.m.

    By 9 p.m. things should be taking shape nationally and we should know the general direction as to who is having the better night and whether or not any sort of wave is taking shape.

    Contested races closing at this hour include: MI_01 (Likely/Safe R), TX_23 (Tossup), AZ_01 (Lean D), AZ_02 (Lean D flip), CO_06 (Tossup), Minnesota 1, 2, 3 & 8 all Tossups, NE_02 (Lean R), NM_02 (Lean R), NY_11 (Lean/Likely R), NY_19 (Tossup), NY_22 (Tossup), NY_24 (Likely R), NY_27 (Likely R), WI_01 (Lean R), and WI_06 (Likely R).

    10 p.m.

    IA_01 & IA_03 are both Tossups, MT_01 Likely R, NV_03 is Lean D, NV_04 is Lean/Likely D, and UT_04 is Lean R.

    11 p.m.

    Assuming there is no projected majority control by 11 p.m., then it comes down to the competitive seats in CA and WA. These include:

    CA_04 (Likely R), CA_07 (Likely D), CA_10 (Tossup), CA_21 & CA_22 (Likely R), CA_25, 39, 45 & 48 (Tossup), CA_49 (Lean D), WA_03 (Lean R), WA_05 (Tossup/Lean R), WA_08 (Tossup)

    California’s close races could take weeks to (find and) count all the ballots.

  80. Todd McCain says:

    26th Circuit Court judge confirmed today!

    #WINNING

  81. Wobbles says:

    26th Circuit Court judge confirmed today!”

    Buh, did you read his tweet about Mika’s face?

  82. DW says:

    87 – imagine the picks Madame President would have made!

  83. Wobbles says:

    Don’t remind me…. they would have been soooooo good…

  84. DW says:

    late afternoon game underway between the Mets and Phils as part of a double-header. Phils have smashed three homers, but trail 5-3.

  85. Messy says:

    89. She would have appointed Judges who support the idea that there’s a 14th Amendment to the constitution, and that the due process clause within incorporates the bill of rights with reguard to the individual states.

    So-called “conservatives” do not believe in such a thing. The late Justice Scalia said that there was no right to vote, even though it’s mentioned in the 14th, 15th, 17th, 19th, 24th and 26th amendments.

  86. Paul says:

    Dear Mr. President:

    Former CIA director John Brennan, whose security clearance you revoked on Wednesday, is one of the finest public servants I have ever known. Few Americans have done more to protect this country than John. He is a man of unparalleled integrity, whose honesty and character have never been in question, except by those who don’t know him.

    Therefore, I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.

    Like most Americans, I had hoped that when you became president, you would rise to the occasion and become the leader this great nation needs.

    A good leader tries to embody the best qualities of his or her organization. A good leader sets the example for others to follow. A good leader always puts the welfare of others before himself or herself.

    Your leadership, however, has shown little of these qualities. Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation.

    If you think for a moment that your McCarthy-era tactics will suppress the voices of criticism, you are sadly mistaken. The criticism will continue until you become the leader we prayed you would be.

    Admiral William H. McRaven

  87. Tina says:

    Senator Burr slammed Comrade Brennan.

    Asks, if he had intelligence that trump,colluded, why did he not include it in a 2017 national intelligence report?

  88. Tina says:

    Comrad Brennan did well.

    Kobar Tower bombing.

    Iran had wmds.

    Spied on the senate in 2014.

    Spied on trump and trump officials up to 1/17.

  89. mnw says:

    Only a pos like Zero would have appointed an admitted communist to be CIA Director. Of a piece with all the other horrors Zero perpetrated on our country.

    RE: RRH

    Interesting to contrast the general opinion there regarding Rep. Jim Jordan, on the one hand, & Ellison on the other. The second the Jordan/OSU “scandal story” (fake news) broke, RRH mods & others were all about, “Jordan should resign. Or at least not seek reelection.”

    But with Ellison? RRH is braying that, “He’s not antisemitic! And the woman-beating charges haven’t been proven in court! Hang in there, Keef.”

  90. Paul says:

    Even as a Communist, he’s a better man than you.

  91. Phil says:

    Hell, Brennan is having trouble rounding up Democrats who want to stand behind him.

    He’s a POS. End of story.

  92. jason says:

    Paul never met a Marxist he didn’t like.

  93. mnw says:

    “Brennan spied on American citizens and lied to Congress about that spying. He’s a clear and present danger to the United States and should have his access to information restricted.”

    Brig. Gen. Anthony Tata

    “Brennan is a butthead.”

    LA Sen. John Kennedy

  94. jason says:

    Messy, first complete a remedial program in English, then you can move on to things like History. It will be years before you will be prepared to comment on the Constitution, so don’t get ahead of yourself.

    First things first.

  95. jason says:

    I find it hilarious that the moonbats call Trump divisive.

    Obama spent 8 years pitting Americans against each other at ever opportunity. Poor against rich, black against white, gay against straight, women against men, non-religious against religious, you name it, nothing was too divisive if he thought it would bring some votes.

    The hypocrisy is astounding.

    Hillary called half of the country deplorable, but of course, that wasn’t divisive.

  96. mnw says:

    Also, for God’s sake shut up about federal jury trials & the federal rules of evidence.

    WSJ: “Youth Unemployment Drops to 52-Year Low”

    “Walmart Says Best Economy for Customers In Decades” (Walmart stock up 10%)

  97. Trump says:

    McRaven Lunatic should be taken on a helicopter ride with the other communists.

  98. Trump says:

    McRaven Lunatic is no where to be found when Bin Laden was killed. Here’s the photo.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkxC5YNXgAAAllE.jpg

  99. Bitterlaw says:

    Slow posting day. Poster Trump should be good for at least 10 posts that add little.

  100. John says:

    Zogby poll done about about ten days ago using likely voters is probably more to the truth than other polls that show Democrats getting anywhere from the mid forties to over 50% in a generic poll.
    Zogby has the D’s stuck at 40% with the R’s gaining ground up to 37% with 17% not sure or won’t vote. That’s probably closest to the truth. Also, R’s are gaining back Independents and now leads 24% to 22%.
    https://zogbyanalytics.com/news/864-the-zogby-poll-republicans-are-gaining-ground-on-democrats-in-the-congressional-generic-voters-trust-president-trump-with-the-economy-and-keeping-america-safe-much-more-than-democratic-leaders-republicans-and-trump-are-winning-back-independents

  101. Trump says:

    Brennan Lenin is a traitor. Just like Crapper, Corney, McRapen and Swampstein. Revoke all clearancses.

  102. dblaikie says:

    Wes, o ye of little faith. Seriously, I know that I am way out on a limb, but I refuse to buy into conventional wisdom. So I will stick to my prediction of GOP plus 3 house seats and plus 3 senate seats. If I go down in flames, at least maybe so folks will appreciate my courage.

  103. dblaikie says:

    And by the way folks the bogus generic poll was at 3.9 just a couple of days ago. But just like I predicted the media polls came through and salvaged the narrative.

  104. lisab says:

    wes,

    it is not impossible for the gop to gaine in the house, just very unlikely

    just as trump winning was unlikely

    one scenario would be if the dems do something really stupid over the scotus hearings

    which is more likely i would think then a complete dem blowout of more than 60 seats

  105. lisab says:

    on a scale of 0 to 100

    just how obnoxious will robbie be on election night?

  106. lisab says:

    the thing is

    the dems are pretty much abandoning the … “we don’t like your candidate but he is the president so we will wait until the next election to not support him” principle

    but yet if they win in 2020, they will expect the gop to fall in line

  107. lisab says:

    robbie,

    if the dems do impeach, do you think it will be based on anything but tds?

    do you personally think he has done anything that warrants impeachment?

  108. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #92
    So Moron Messy is now a Constitutional scholar, whose knowledge exceeds that of the late, great Anton Scalia.
    I have come to the opinion that the Messy handle belongs to someone on HHR that is goofing with the rest of us.
    No one can be the dumb s**t that Messy is. No One!

  109. Wes says:

    Lisa, Db, Republicans are not going to gain seats in the House. The Senate is a different story because of the current composition of the Class One seats. Redistricting in PA hurt the GOP. Corey Stewart is dragging a rising star in the party straight to Hell with him. Here in NC, the Republicans peaked a candidate who’s not a good fit for NC-9 and will lose a close race. Around the country, other seats have turned against the GOP–more than have turned in their favor from among those the Dems hold.

    Does that mean Dems will win the House? Not necessarily. Indeed, I’m still predicting Republicans hang on by a reduced margin.

    Realistically though it would take an enormous sea change for Republicans to make gains in the House this year. That’s simply too steep a hill to climb.

    Each time a President has made gains in the House in a midterm since 1900–1902, 1934, 1998, and 2002–there have been underlying factors that have gone behind it:

    1) In 1902, Roosevelt was enormously popular, and redistricting helped Republicans increase their numbers.

    2) In 1934, Republicans still suffered under the stigma of the Great Depression despite their loss in 1932, and Roosevelt hadn’t yet proved incompetent in dealing with the economic downturn.

    3) In 1998, Clinton was enormously popular, and Republicans focused on his tryst with Lewinsky–an issue unlikely to cause massive backlash among average voters–while Gingrich, Livingston, and others looked like hypocrites once their own sex scandals–far worse than Clinton’s with Lewinsky–came to light.

    4) In 2002, having effectively responded to 9/11, Bush had sky-high popularity, and Democrats did themselves no favors by trying to obstruct everything in the wake of that tragedy.

    This year, while Dems are going to hurt themselves to a degree with their McCarthyite attacks on Trump, he himself is not particularly popular, even as Dems have already made a number of GOP seats competitive. This renders chances of GOP gains in the House nil. It does not inevitably mean the chamber will flip.

  110. Wes says:

    My current Senate rankings:

    Solid R Hold-

    UT
    WY
    NE
    TX
    MS

    Likely R Hold-

    TN

    Lean R Hold-

    NV

    Likely R Pickup-

    ND
    FL

    Lean R Pickup-

    MO

    Tossup-

    AZ
    IN
    NM

    Lean D Hold-

    MT
    WI
    WV
    MN(2)
    OH

    Likely D Hold-

    WA
    MI
    PA
    NJ

    Solid D Hold-

    HI
    CA
    MN(1)
    MD
    DE
    NY
    CT
    RI
    MA

    Likely I Hold-

    ME

    Solid I Hold-

    VT

  111. Wes says:

    My gubernatorial rankings:

    Solid R Hold-

    ID
    SD
    NE
    TX
    AR
    AL
    SC
    MD
    MA

    Likely R Hold-

    AZ
    OK
    IA
    TN
    GA
    VT
    NH

    Lean R Hold-

    NV
    WY
    KS
    FL

    Lean R Pickup-

    AK

    Tossup-

    OR
    WI
    MI
    OH
    CT

    Lean D Pickup-

    ME

    Likely D Pickup-

    NM
    IL

    Lean D Hold-

    CO
    MN

    Likely D Hold-

    PA
    RI

    Solid D Hold-

    HI
    CA
    NY

  112. Messy says:

    116. Okay, Sheeple, do you really think that Barron Vs. Baltimore (1835) is still in effect and the 14th Amendment was never ratified?

    The incorporation of the Bill of Rights into the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment was first acknowledged in the case of Gitlow v. New York(1925) Edward T. Stanford was so conservative he made Scalia look socialist.

    The fact is, is that most of the decisions written during Warren period were Republicans, most notably Brennan, Harlan, Stewart and Warren himself. Later on, you had people like Blackmun (Nixon), Stevens (Ford), O’Connor (Reagan) and Souter (Bush, Sr) who were ALL Republicans, who confirmed the power of the 14th Amendment, which is something that John Bingham, who WROTE the damn thing, wanted.

    Yeah, my book on the subject was used for years in Harvard law’s constitutional law course as a supplement.

    101. Did big bad Messy SCARE icky baby? awwwwww…

  113. Todd McCain says:

    Why do you think NM is a tossup? Have to think that despite Johnson being in the race, Heinrich is still favored.

  114. Wes says:

    Johnson’s appearance on the ballot is exactly why I think it’s a tossup. Johnson was a popular Governor of the state while Heinrich is nearly as invisible in his state as Bill Nelson in Florida.

    That’s why I have it as no clear favorite at the moment.

    Now for my final predictions, I always eliminate the tossup category and assign the races to one side or the other. Thus, at the end of October, if not before, I’ll say if I think it stays D, goes R, or goes L.

  115. Wes says:

    This is from the above article:

    Democratic Party Chairwoman Marg Elliston cautioned that Johnson’s zeal for balanced budgets could translate into cuts to federal entitlement programs as pressure mounts to offset tax cuts signed by Trump last year.

    Let me get this straight. During the Bush years, deficits were bad, and we needed to balance the budget. Now balancing the budget isn’t a priority because entitlements take precedence.

    ::facepalm::

  116. Wes says:

    From RRH:

    NYGOP August 17, 2018 at 7:41 am

    THE NRSC just dropped $2.8 million on media opposing Sens. Jon Tester (D-Mont.), Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.), Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) and Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.). McCaskill was the biggest buy.

    It makes sense McCaskill is the biggest buy because she hails from the biggest, most expensive state of the four. They must see something in Big Sky Country to justify targeting Tester.

  117. Todd McCain says:

    Ironically, it probably helps her for the primary.

  118. Wes says:

    Heller and Sandoval need to rally hard to get the GOP to turn out and vote so as to reverse some of the effects of 2016 in NV, DW.

  119. mnw says:

    48/51

    Consumer confidence has dropped to an 11-month low. Consumers among the bottom third of income earners are concerned about inflation, apparently.

    Tester:

    I was the only one at RRH to list Tester among the top 5 likely to flip. I had him at #5 instead of Manchin. I keep waiting for Rosendale to make his move. He’s a good candidate, imo.

    Hard to believe that Brennan (!) had a big admirer posting here last night.

  120. DW says:

    Cook and some of the others have NV_04 as likely D. Had this been a D-Internal poll of a race they ranked as Likely R, their knee-jerk reaction would be to change the ranking to Tossup.

  121. Messy says:

    The racism of the Supreme court in the 1870s and ’80s was horrendous, as can plainly be seen in he notorious Slaughterhouse case (1879), which by a five to four decision, gutted the due process clause of the 14th and the even worse Reese vs. US (1875), which stated that since there was no right to vote, it cannot be abridged and therefore the 15th amendment was completely moot and unenforceable. It was reversed two years later in ex parte Yarbough, but in such a way to let the “Jim Crow” system of apartheid grow and thrive for the better part of a century.

    The maliciousness of the 19th-early 20th century Supreme Court as in relation with the 14th and 15th Amendments is somewhat ameliorated by their actions regarding the bill of rights proper against the federal government. In fact, the Warren decisions have exact precedents vis a vis the Federal government dating from this time.

    What the current liberal/conservative split is about now is the difference in rights between natural and corporate persons. If a corporate “person” has the same rights as a natural one, say in regard to free exercise of religion, does it not have the same rights to be free of ownership under the 13th amendment?

  122. mnw says:

    Tester:

    This is a micro-event, I suppose, but it may help Rosendale marginally with GOP enthusiasm.

    Tester & Pearl Jam* joined forces for a series of concerts in MT to FR for Tester. The poster advertising the most recent concert had a “dead Trump” illustration on it. A couple of other dead lefty hate objects were on there too. Tester finally disavowed this, but he waited for about a week before he did so.

  123. mnw says:

    *which is worse? Pearl Jam’s music, or PJ’s politics? Tough call.

  124. Wes says:

    Pearl Jam is the most flagrantly leftist active band in the United States. They are unabashed in their contempt and loathing for anyone not subscribing to their extreme leftist orthodoxy. Since they are so overt about their extremist politics, Rosendale might not be unwise to betatest a connection of some of Eddie Vetter’s more outrageous statements to Tester, for whom Vetter is of course headlining fundraisers.

  125. Wes says:

    My apologies for misspelling the stage name of Pearl Jam’s front man. He actually goes by Eddie Vedder.

  126. Wes says:

    You know, I don’t think celebrities realize they needn’t shove their personal politics in people’s faces.

    The late Chris Cornell–who tragically hanged himself last year–was a committed leftist who attended a couple of fundraisers for Obama. Despite this, Cornell strictly avoided politics in his live shows even when paired with the moonbats of Rage Against the Machine in Audioslave. He personally consider his job to entertain rather than proselytize.

    More celebrities should be like Chris Cornell.

  127. Wes says:

    Before some moonbat flips out on me, I was saying more celebrities should take the measured approach to their personal politics Cornell took. I was not implying celebrities need to hang themselves off bathroom doors with exercise bands.

  128. Wes says:

    Here’s the story about the poster Mnw mentioned:

    https://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/it-kinda-seems-like-the-heitkamp-campaign-is-panicking/

    The bassist from Pearl Jam claims to be the sole conceptualist for the poster and hides behind the First Amendment in defending it.

    Would this not be an unsubtly communicated threat or incitement of violence against the President and thus fall outside First Amendment proscriptions against restrictions on free speech?

    For his part, Tester is in damage control mode’ claiming his campaign never saw the poster before the Republicans highlighted it and condemns violence of any kind.

    I’m not sure I believe Tester, but he clearly realizes this is not a good thing for his campaign.

  129. Messy says:

    139. When I did that once, y’all called me a moron and said I couldn’t read. So can I return the favor?

    I bet Tina thinks this is great! https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/california-election-hacking-711202/

  130. Wes says:

    This didn’t quite work when Dems tried it against Ron Johnson, so by all means keep doing it:

    https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/tn-elections/2018/08/16/tn-senate-race-marsha-blackburn-fec-complaint/1007118002/

  131. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #121- Messy
    Please send us a link to your Constitutional scholarship book at Harvard. Thank You.

    #121″Yeah, my book on the subject was used for years in Harvard law’s constitutional law course as a supplement.”

  132. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    AG Hawley(R) +7 in the Missouri Senate race in new Club for Growth/ WPA Poll. Take as an internal poll.
    In my Machiavellian thinking, the MO GOP waited until after the recent primaries to go aggressively after Sky Queen McCaskill(D) because they did not want her to drop out for Jason Kander.
    Will The Toupees move the race toward AG Hawley? No!

    mnw—your thoughts?

    https://www.clubforgrowth.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/CFG_MO_SEN_Brushfire_Summary-Memo_180817.pdf

  133. Wes says:

    While I believe Hawley is up, I doubt he’s up by 7. More like 2 or 3 at this juncture. Even so, I expected McCaskill to lose her lead after the primary. That appears to be happening.

  134. Wes says:

    Sheeple, Kander has gone full moonbat since losing to Blunt. I rather doubt the MOGOP was too much worried about him with all his public leftist statements recently.

  135. DW says:

    150 – reminds me of a person close to me who twice was in the press corps when Hillary was taking questions while NY State senator, speaking at an event. The press was closely regulated, all the questions were checked in advance by her handlers and screened to ensure Hillary wasn’t given any tough questions. So yes, the ‘press’ was covering the event, but it was not a FREE press.

  136. Redmen4ever says:

    127 – MT included but IN not.

    ND and WV as well as MT are cheap buys. MO isn’t, but looking like a sure thing. IN isn’t a cheap buy either. But, if we were to include a fifth potential takeaway, it’d be MN special or even OH rather than IN or WI. But, none of those plays are cheap.

  137. lisab says:

    117 wes,

    i agree that it is extremely unlikely that the gop could gain seats

    but it is not impossible

    it would just take an extra ordinary happenstance, of which we have seen several in our lifetime

  138. DW says:

    The Mets’ season this year in a nutshell:

    They played the Phillies in a double-header yesterday, and the Mets scored 30 (!) runs in the two games, yet somehow managed to split the double-header. They won the first game 24-4 and lost the second game 6-9.

  139. dblaikie says:

    Although I am probably wrong, it seems to me if Mueller had a slam dunk case against Manifort the jury would have already delivered their verdict. I believe the longer the jury is out the more likely to declare themselves hung or possibly even an innocent verdict (that would truly surprise me).

  140. DW says:

    Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez speaks:

    “I loved the media back when they were first learning about my campaign. But recently they started to ask, you know, ‘gotcha’ questions like taxpayer funding for NASA. Everyone knows its the government that pays for NASA, not taxpayers!”

  141. Robbie says:

    Strange. I was assured the generic ballot was narrowing last weekend.

    Deep state fake polls?

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/2018_generic_congressional_vote-6185.html

  142. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    August 17, 2018 at 2:24 pm
    Although I am probably wrong, it seems to me if Mueller had a slam dunk case against Manifort the jury would have already delivered their verdict. I believe the longer the jury is out the more likely to declare themselves hung or possibly even an innocent verdict (that would truly surprise me).

    – The jury took 10 days to find Scooter Libby guilty on four of five counts in 2007.

  143. Robbie says:

    I think it’s great we’re in a place where tax fraud and other assorted crimes are ok so long as the person charged with the crimes worked for Trump and finding that person not guilty would be a political help to Trump.

    Now that’s the party of law and order at its best.

  144. Tina says:

    Judge Ellis, citing threats, will,not disclose the name of the jurors and their addresses.

    I cannot believe that the Jebot loons threatened the judge.

  145. Tina says:

    Cn and n to,follow jurors home though,

    You know breaking news.

  146. Robbie says:

    Should Imperator Trump charge Admiral William McRaven with treason? If so, will Trump reincarnate Roland Freisler to preside over the trial?

  147. Tina says:

    Ellis is being protected by the us marshals thanks to the loons.

    Jury going home for the weekend, no decision.

  148. Tina says:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/08/wow-senate-intel-chairman-burr-defends-trump-slams-john-brennan-for-claiming-trump-colluded-with-russia/

    Burr slams Comrade Brennan.

    Only national retreat online and the weekly socialist ar defending comrade.

    Sad.

  149. DW says:

    New Dashboard with 538’s numbers included:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ——————————————————————————-
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | RRH | Kos | 538 |Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ——————————————————————————-
    OH_15 R | 149 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.7 —
    OK_05 R | 150 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.5 —
    PA_14* D | 151 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.5 —
    CA_22 R | 152 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 — 49/41 (PPP) |48/43 (Tulchin)
    NY_23 R | 153 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Ln R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    IN_09 R | 155 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5 —
    OH_07 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5 —
    OH_10 R | 157 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5 —
    AZ_06 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    AZ_08 R | 159 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    CA_50 R | 160 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5 — 51/42 (Tulchin Res.)
    TX_31 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.7 — 46/40 (PPP)
    MO_02 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.7 —
    CO_03 R | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4.5 —
    SC_01 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    FL_15* R | 165 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    FL_06* R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    MI_01 R | 168 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    NC_02 R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    OH_14 R | 170 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    PA_16 R | 171 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.5 — 48/43 (PPP) | 50/44 (D-Int)
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    WI_06 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    FL_25 R | 174 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 46/39 (St. Pete)
    TX_21* R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 33/27 (Chg Res.)
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    WA_03 R | 177 | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 4 — 42/37 (Lake R.)
    GA_07 R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_18 R | 179 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    NY_24 R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 43/47 (PPP-D)
    MI_06 R | 181 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    FL_16 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 — 49/37 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 183 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.5 —
    IL_14 R | 184 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.5 — 45/41 (PPP)
    IL_13 R | 185 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.5 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NY_01 R | 186 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.5 —
    CA_21 R | 187 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Toss | 3.2 —
    GA_06* R | 188 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.2 —
    AR_02 R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 — 47/42 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 190 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 —
    VA_05 R | 191 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.7 —
    MT_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | Lk R | 2.5 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.2 — 43/40 (PPP) | 40/35 (Civitas)
    VA_02 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.2 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 195 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.2 — 49/35 (Carroll Strategies)
    WA_05 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 44/38 (elway)
    UT_04 R | 197 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2 — 47/43 | 45/39 (Salt Lake Trib.)
    NJ_03 R | 198 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Toss | 1.7 — 42/42 (GSG-D) | 41/40 (Monmouth)
    OH_01 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Toss | 1.7 — 43/42 (PPP)
    WI_01* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 —
    WV_03* R | 201 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 1.7 — 41/43 (Monmouth)
    TX_32 R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 1.2 — 47/45 (GBA)
    NE_02 R | 203 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 —
    IL_06 R | 204 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.1 — 44/37 (Victory Res.)
    PA_01 R | 205 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.1 — 49/42
    ME_02 R | 206 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1 — 45/35 |40/39 (D-Int)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1 —
    VA_07 R | 208 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1 —
    MI_08 R | 209 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.7 — 46/41 (PPP) |45/39 (Target Ins)
    IA_03 R | 210 | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.7 — 44/43 (PPP) | 41/45 (D-Int.)
    KS_02* R | 211 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.7 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    IL_12 R | 212 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 0.7 — 44/39 (PPP)
    OH_12* R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 0.6 — 48/45 (D-Inc) 48/44 (PPP)
    NJ_07 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 41/42 (PPP) | 45/47 (GQR-D)
    FL_26 R | 215 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.6 — 45/40 (DCCC-D) |48/41 (DCCC-D)
    CA_45 R | 216 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.5 — 43/46 (PPP) | 45/44 (D-Int)
    KY_06 R | 217 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.5 —
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    MN_03 R | 218 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln D | 0.5 — 43/46 (PPP)
    TX_07 R | 217 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 37/31 incum. fav. (GSG-D)
    NC_09* R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.3 –36/43 (Civ.) | 43/44 (D-Int)
    NY_19 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 41/43 (PPP) |49/44 (IMGE)
    WA_08* R | 214 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 51/45 (GBA)
    MN_08* D | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.2 —
    TX_23 R | 212 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | 0 — 44/43 (PPP)
    IA_01 R | 211 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln D | 0 — 41/43 (D Internal)
    MN_01* D | 210 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 209 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 41/38 (Remington-R) | 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    CA_10 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.1 — 48/37 (ALG-D) | 48/48 (GHY-D)
    CA_25 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.1 — 45/40 (GSG-D) | 47/47 (IMGE)
    CA_48 R | 206 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.1 — 48/44 (D-Int.) | 45/47 (Monm.)
    CO_06 R | 205 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.1 — 45/47 (D-Int) | (45/45 IMGE)
    NY_22 R | 204 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.1 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    MN_02 R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.2 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MI_11* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.7 — 42/45 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 201 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | Lk D | -1.3 —
    PA_17 R | 200 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Lk D | -1.5 — 39/51 (Monmouth)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Lk D | -1.6 — 42/40 (PPP) | 38/40 (Mon.)
    VA_10 R | 198 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -1.7 — 39/49 (Monmouth)
    CA_49* R | 197 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Lk D | -1.7 — 41/44 (Feldman) | 46/43 (R-Int)
    NH_01* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Lk D | -1.8 —
    AZ_02* R | 195 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Lk D | -1.8 —
    NV_03* D | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -2.7 —
    NV_04* D | 192 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.7 — 37/42 (D-Int.) | 41/41 (R-Int)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -2.8 —
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -3.5 —
    MN_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.5 —
    PA_08 D | 188 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.5 —
    NJ_05 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4 —
    PA_06* R | 186 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4 —
    NJ_02* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -4.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    CA_07 D | 184 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.5 — 41/50 (POS)
    CT_05* D | 183 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | Ln D | Sf D | -4.5 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5 —
    AZ_09* D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5 —
    CA_24 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 — 46/47 (Olive Tree St.)
    NY_18 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    WI_03 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.5 —
    IA_02 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.5 —
    NY_25 D | 175 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.5 —
    FL_13 D | 174 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.7 —
    OR_05 D | 173 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.7 —

    *indicates open seat

  150. Tina says:

    Trump indicates he will likely very soon remove the security clearance from Ohr.

    He should also include her thighness,mfarkarse, you tube, and the penguin.

    Phuq all of them.

  151. Ron N says:

    What’s wrong MSM has said this was a slam dunk case. There we go again MSM telling us some thinking and the ppl not excepting there outcome. He still may lose this case but 3 days in jury hands not a great outcome for SC.

  152. mnw says:

    Sheep 148

    RE: New MO SEN CFG poll

    I’m flattered by your question.

    I looked very carefully at the internals, & it looks like a righteous poll to me. I see nothing hinky about it; no obvious methodology red flags. Anybody have a different thought?

    Like Wes, I expected some uptick for Hawley after the primary.

    Obviously, the most attention-grabbing feature of the poll isn’t the topline, it’s the MOVEMENT in Hawley’s direction since the last poll.

    I always thought H would improve eventually, because… MO. Plus, his lower name recognition gave him more chance to “grow” than McC, who is a known quantity.

    For those trolls waiting for Hawley to do a Todd Akin imitation, that’s so never going to happen! Hawley is to Akin as Alistair Cooke is to Pee Wee Herman.

  153. Tina says:

    Sheeple got that poll before me.

  154. jason says:

    No one can be the dumb s**t that Messy is.”

    You would think its impossible, but stranger things have happened.

  155. jason says:

    Make that it’s impossible.

  156. jason says:

    – The jury took 10 days to find Scooter Libby guilty on four of five counts in 2007.”

    I am sure Amoral Scumbag was worried sick he might be acquitted.

  157. Wobbles says:

    Only national retreat online and the weekly socialist ar defending comrade.

    Sad.”

    And me, me, me, me….

    He may be a Communist, but that’s ok, the ends justify the means.

    I would ally myself with the ghost of Jean-Bédel Bokassa if I thought it would damage Trump.

  158. jason says:

    Messy has graduated to cartoons?

    I think this commendable progress.

    Start with the ones that just have figures, leave the ones with text for later.

  159. jason says:

    I think this commendable progress.”

    And I need more coffee and my Quechua-English translator.

  160. jason says:

    I wonder how much Messy, Paul and Amoral Scumbag have contributed? “Desperate” fits them perfectly.

    And my oh my, are the leftists fighting among themselves?

    “On Thursday’s The Daily Show With Trevor Noah, the host ripped into former FBI agent Peter Strzok, whose GoFundMe page has raised its goal twice after the first two targets were quickly met. Strzok was fired from the Mueller probe last year, then fired by the FBI earlier this week over text messages he exchanged that were critical of Donald Trump while he was investigating him during the 2016 campaign.

    The GoFundMe page, which says it was started by “Friends of Special Agent Peter Strzok,” originally asked for $150,000 to cover legal fees and lost income. When that figure was reached, it was raised to $350,000. The ask is now $500,000. Supporters have been quick to give to Strzok, who has raised well over $400,000.

    Noah began by asking, “How do people say, ‘This is the amount I need’ and then change the amount when they get it? … That’s not a thing.” He went on to imagine this happening in person, which of course would go very differently.

    Daily Show correspondent Michael Kosta believes people are willing to continue contributing to Strzok’s cause — despite the ascending goal — because of their hatred for Trump. “I get it. People are desperate for something that can hurt Trump even a little bit,” Kosta said. “But that’s how scams work, by preying on the most desperate.”

  161. jason says:

    PT Barnum had it right…

    “But no one has gained more from Trump hate than former Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein. She raised $7.3 million and said the money would go to a recount following the election.”

  162. mnw says:

    A check for Strzok & another one for Beto! Go get ’em, trolls!

  163. jason says:

    BTW, what happened to the money, suckers?

    “Shortly after the 2016 election, Jill Stein raised more than $7 million from shell-shocked liberals eager to pursue a swing-state recount. Nearly two years later, the U.S. Green Party’s last candidate for president is still spending that money.

    Ongoing litigation, travel costs, and staff salaries are also likely to eat up whatever is left, meaning those who donated to Stein are unlikely to receive a once-promised chance to vote on how the post-recount money would be spent. Nor have donors been given much of a window into how Stein is actually spending their donations.

    The last FEC filing from the Stein campaign was for the month of September 2017. And the last update from the campaign itself came in a post on April 20, in which it said it was down to $932,178 in recount funds. “

  164. jason says:

    I think it’s great we’re in a place where tax fraud and other assorted crimes are ok so long as the person charged with the crimes worked for Trump and finding that person not guilty would be a political help to Trump.”

    Yes, you want to be in a place where someone who pretends to be a conservative is hoping someone might be convicted for crimes completely divorced from anything to do with Trump just because it might be a political embarrassment to Trump.

  165. Wobbles says:

    While I believe Hawley is up, I doubt he’s up by 7. More like 2 or 3 at this juncture”

    Not taking any chances. Just sent Sky Queen a fat check.

  166. Tina says:

    And poor Manafort, no tax audit, Ike millions of others, just for working on the trump campaign. His offenses were already looked at by Redactstein, who declined to prosecute in. 2014.

    But muh principles and muh Russian. A conviction gets us to trump.

  167. DW says:

    There is a new NJ_05 poll out there showing the Republican challenger up 3 points against the Dem Incumbent. This seat is well below the magic line on the dashboard. I cannot post the link as Dave’s filter rejects the entire post.

  168. DW says:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ——————————————————————————-
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | RRH | Kos | 538 |Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ——————————————————————————-
    OH_15 R | 149 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.7 —
    OK_05 R | 150 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.5 —
    PA_14* D | 151 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.5 —
    CA_22 R | 152 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 — 48/43 (Tulchin)
    NY_23 R | 153 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Ln R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    IN_09 R | 155 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5 —
    OH_07 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5 —
    OH_10 R | 157 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5 —
    AZ_06 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    AZ_08 R | 159 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    CA_50 R | 160 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5 — 51/42 (Tulchin)
    TX_31 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.7 — 46/40 (PPP)
    MO_02 R | 162 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.7 —
    CO_03 R | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4.5 —
    SC_01 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    FL_15* R | 165 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    FL_06* R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    MI_01 R | 168 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    NC_02 R | 169 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    OH_14 R | 170 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    PA_16 R | 171 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.5 — 50/44 (D-Int)
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    WI_06 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    FL_25 R | 174 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 46/39 (St. Pete)
    TX_21* R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 33/27 (Chg Res.)
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    WA_03 R | 177 | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 4 — 42/37 (Lake R.)
    GA_07 R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    FL_18 R | 179 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    NY_24 R | 180 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 43/47 (PPP-D)
    MI_06 R | 181 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    FL_16 R | 182 | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 — 49/37 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 183 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.5 —
    IL_14 R | 184 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.5 — 45/41 (PPP)
    IL_13 R | 185 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.5 — 45/42 (PPP)
    NY_01 R | 186 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.5 —
    CA_21 R | 187 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Toss | 3.2 —
    GA_06* R | 188 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.2 —
    AR_02 R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 — 47/42 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 190 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 —
    VA_05 R | 191 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.7 —
    MT_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | Lk R | 2.5 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NC_13 R | 193 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.2 — 40/35 (Civitas)
    VA_02 R | 194 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.2 — 48/42 (PPP)
    NM_02* R | 195 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.2 — 49/35 (Carroll)
    WA_05 R | 196 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 44/38 (elway)
    UT_04 R | 197 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2 — 45/39 (Salt Lake)
    NJ_03 R | 198 | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Toss | 1.7 — 41/40 (Monm.)
    OH_01 R | 199 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Toss | 1.7 — 43/42 (PPP)
    WI_01* R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 —
    WV_03* R | 201 | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 1.7 — 41/43 (Monm.)
    TX_32 R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 1.2 — 47/45 (GBA)
    NE_02 R | 203 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 —
    IL_06 R | 204 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.1 — 44/37 (Victory Res.)
    PA_01 R | 205 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.1 — 49/42
    ME_02 R | 206 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1 — 40/39 (D-Int)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1 —
    VA_07 R | 208 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1 —
    MI_08 R | 209 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.7 — 45/39 (Target Ins)
    IA_03 R | 210 | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.7 — 41/45 (D-Int.)
    KS_02* R | 211 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.7 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    IL_12 R | 212 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 0.7 — 44/39 (PPP)
    OH_12* R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 0.6 — 48/44 (PPP)
    NJ_07 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 45/47 (GQR-D)
    FL_26 R | 215 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.6 — 48/41 (DCCC-D)
    CA_45 R | 216 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.5 — 45/44 (D-Int)
    KY_06 R | 217 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.5 —
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    MN_03 R | 218 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln D | 0.5 — 43/46 (PPP)
    TX_07 R | 217 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    NC_09* R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 43/44 (D-Int)
    NY_19 R | 215 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 49/44 (IMGE)
    WA_08* R | 214 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 51/45 (GBA)
    MN_08* D | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.2 —
    TX_23 R | 212 | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | 0 — 44/43 (PPP)
    IA_01 R | 211 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln D | 0 — 41/43 (D Int.)
    MN_01* D | 210 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 209 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    CA_10 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.1 — 48/48 (GHY-D)
    CA_25 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.1 — 47/47 (IMGE)
    CA_48 R | 206 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.1 — 45/47 (Monm.)
    CO_06 R | 205 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.1 — (45/45 IMGE)
    NY_22 R | 204 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.1 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    MN_02 R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.2 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MI_11* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.7 — 42/45 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 201 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | Lk D | -1.3 —
    PA_17 R | 200 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Lk D | -1.5 — 39/51 (Monm.)
    NJ_11* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Lk D | -1.6 — 38/40 (Monmouth)
    VA_10 R | 198 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -1.7 — 39/49 (Monm.)
    CA_49* R | 197 | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Lk D | -1.7 — 46/43 (R-Int)
    NH_01* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Lk D | -1.8 —
    AZ_02* R | 195 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Lk D | -1.8 —
    NV_03* D | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -2.7 —
    NV_04* D | 192 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.7 — 41/41 (R-Int)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Lk D | Tlt D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -2.8 —
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -3.5 —
    MN_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.5 —
    PA_08 D | 188 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.5 —
    NJ_05 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4 — 39/36 (R-Int)
    PA_06* R | 186 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4 —
    NJ_02* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -4.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    CA_07 D | 184 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.5 — 41/50 (POS)
    CT_05* D | 183 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | Ln D | Sf D | -4.5 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5 —
    AZ_09* D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5 —
    CA_24 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 — 46/47 (Olive Tree St.)
    NY_18 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    WI_03 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.5 —
    IA_02 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.5 —
    NY_25 D | 175 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.5 —
    FL_13 D | 174 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.7 —
    OR_05 D | 173 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.7 —

    *indicates open seat

  169. DW says:

    And just after posting the dashboard Gonzales posts a whole bunch of changes in the Dems favor as he doesn’t wish to be too unlike the others:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ——————————————————————————-
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | RRH | Kos | 538 |Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ——————————————————————————-
    OH_15 R | 148 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.7 —
    OK_05 R | 149 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.5 —
    PA_14* D | 150 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.5 —
    IA_04 | 151 | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.2 —
    CA_22 R | 152 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.2 — 48/43 (Tulchin)
    NY_23 R | 153 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Ln R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.2 —
    NC_08 R | 154 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    IN_09 R | 155 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5 —
    OH_07 R | 156 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5 —
    OH_10 R | 157 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5 —
    AZ_06 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    AZ_08 R | 159 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5 —
    CA_50 R | 160 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5 — 51/42 (Tulchin)
    MO_02 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.7 —
    TX_31 R | 162 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 — 46/40 (PPP)
    CO_03 R | 163 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4.5 —
    SC_01 R | 164 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    FL_15* R | 165 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    IN_02 R | 166 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    FL_06* R | 167 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    MI_01 R | 168 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    OH_14 R | 169 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.5 —
    NC_02 R | 170 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    PA_16 R | 171 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.2 — 50/44 (D-Int)
    CA_04 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    WI_06 R | 173 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    FL_25 R | 174 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 46/39 (St. Pete)
    TX_21* R | 175 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 33/27 (Chg Res.)
    MI_07 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    GA_07 R | 177 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    NY_24 R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 — 43/47 (PPP-D)
    WA_03 R | 179 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.7 — 42/37 (Lake R.)
    FL_18 R | 180 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    MI_06 R | 181 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    FL_16 R | 182 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.5 — 49/37 (PPP)
    PA_10 R | 183 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.5 —
    IL_14 R | 184 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.5 — 45/41 (PPP)
    NY_01 R | 185 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.5 —
    IL_13 R | 186 | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3.2 — 45/42 (PPP)
    CA_21 R | 187 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Toss | 3.2 —
    GA_06* R | 188 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.2 —
    AR_02 R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 — 47/42 (PPP)
    NY_11 R | 190 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 3 —
    VA_05 R | 191 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.7 —
    MT_01 R | 192 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | Lk R | 2.5 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    NM_02* R | 193 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 2.2 — 49/35 (Carroll)
    NC_13 R | 194 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 40/35 (Civitas)
    VA_02 R | 195 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 2 — 48/42 (PPP)
    UT_04 R | 196 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 2 — 45/39 (Salt Lake)
    WA_05 R | 197 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 — 44/38 (elway)
    WI_01* R | 198 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.7 —
    NJ_03 R | 199 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Toss | 1.6 — 41/40 (Monm.)
    OH_01 R | 200 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Toss | 1.5 — 43/42 (PPP)
    WV_03* R | 201 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | 1.5 — 41/43 (Monm.)
    TX_32 R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | 1.2 — 47/45 (GBA)
    NE_02 R | 203 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.2 —
    PA_01 R | 204 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.1 — 49/42
    IL_06 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1 — 44/37 (Victory Res.)
    ME_02 R | 206 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1 — 40/39 (D-Int)
    KS_03 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 —
    VA_07 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 0.8 —
    MI_08 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 45/39 (Target Ins)
    KS_02* R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    IL_12 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 0.6 — 44/39 (PPP)
    OH_12* R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | 0.6 — 48/44 (PPP)
    NJ_07 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.6 — 45/47 (GQR-D)
    FL_26 R | 214 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.6 — 48/41 (DCCC-D)
    CA_45 R | 215 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.5 — 45/44 (D-Int)
    KY_06 R | 216 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.5 —
    IA_03 R | 217 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 41/45 (D-Int.)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    MN_03 R | 218 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln D | 0.3 — 43/46 (PPP)
    TX_07 R | 217 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    NC_09* R | 216 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 43/44 (D-Int)
    NY_19 R | 215 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/44 (IMGE)
    WA_08* R | 214 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 51/45 (GBA)
    MN_08* D | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.2 —
    TX_23 R | 212 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | 0.1 — 44/43 (PPP)
    IA_01 R | 211 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln D | 0 — 41/43 (D Int.)
    MN_01* D | 210 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 —
    CA_39* R | 209 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    CA_10 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.1 — 48/48 (GHY-D)
    CA_25 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.1 — 47/47 (IMGE)
    CA_48 R | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.2 — 45/47 (Monm.)
    CO_06 R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.2 — (45/45 IMGE)
    NY_22 R | 204 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.2 — 40/47 (Zogby)
    MN_02 R | 203 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.2 — 43/42 (PPP)
    MI_11* R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | -0.7 — 42/45 (PPP)
    PA_07* R | 201 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | Lk D | -1.3 —
    NJ_11* R | 200 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Lk D | -1.6 — 38/40 (Monmouth)
    PA_17 R | 199 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Lk D | -1.7 — 39/51 (Monm.)
    VA_10 R | 198 | Toss | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -1.8 — 39/49 (Monm.)
    CA_49* R | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Lk D | -1.8 — 46/43 (R-Int)
    NH_01* D | 196 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Lk D | -1.8 —
    AZ_02* R | 195 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Lk D | -1.8 —
    NV_03* D | 194 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | -1.8 —
    FL_27* R | 193 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -2.7 —
    NV_04* D | 192 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | -2.7 — 41/41 (R-Int)
    AZ_01 D | 191 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -3 —
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -3.5 —
    MN_07 D | 189 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.5 —
    PA_08 D | 188 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.5 —
    NJ_05 D | 187 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4 — 39/36 (R-Int)
    PA_06* R | 186 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | -4 —
    NJ_02* R | 185 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -4.2 — 39/44 (PPP)
    CA_07 D | 184 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -4.5 — 41/50 (POS)
    CT_05* D | 183 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | Ln D | Sf D | -4.5 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5 —
    AZ_09* D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5 —
    NH_02 D | 180 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5 —
    CA_24 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 — 46/47 (Olive Tree St.)
    NY_18 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.2 —
    WI_03 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.5 —
    IA_02 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.5 —
    NY_25 D | 175 | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.5 —
    FL_13 D | 174 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.7 —
    OR_05 D | 173 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.7 —

    *indicates open seat

  170. DW says:

    Just a word about the Dashboard and the most recent poll for each seat. For seats without a poll, for the sake of argument, I will give each seat to whichever side of the magic line it currently sits. Then for every seat with a poll, I count them up to see if they go against the side of the line its on. Using this method, the GOP actually holds on by 2 seats–remarkable given how many of these polls are D Internals and PPP-D

  171. lisab says:

    uh oh … group mistakenly plays

    hail to the chief at elizabeth warren rally

    a little embarassing 🙂

    https://youtu.be/M6FNEkfZWbE

  172. jason says:

    What a gaffe….Pocahontas was not a chief.

  173. jason says:

    Our “free press” has not been free for decades….

    “Hillary Clinton, like Eleanor Roosevelt, had already done a great service. Unlike Barbara Bush, she got involved. She has taken stands. She has been a leader. It’s too bad, of course, that there is not health care legislation this year, but that is Congress’ failure, not Hillary Clinton’s. Her role has been a success. She awakened the nation. She educated the nation. She enlightened the nation….For when a nation gets two leaders for the price of one — a Franklin and Eleanor, a Bill and Hillary — it can tackle twice as many problems, find twice as many solutions, make twice as much progress.”
    — Former NBC News President Michael Gartner in his USA Today column, September 27, 1994.

  174. mnw says:

    GPO

    That is funny.

    Gutfeld makes a good point too– CNN broadcasting every one of his campaign events live & in full was probably indispensable to Trump’s election.

  175. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – I don’t care if Manofort is guilty or innocent. If he is guilty – good. I don’t like tax frauds. If he is innocent – zzzzzz.

  176. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    192. “She (Hillary) awakened the nation. She educated the nation. She enlightened the nation…”

    Hillary did that again in 2016, which is why she is not president.

  177. lisab says:

    the problem with the manofort trial is that the obama administration refused to prosecute him

    now, the same people are prosecuting him, because as robbie pointed out, it would be bad for trump

    it is a politically motivated trial, and as such, not only should he go free, but all those who participated in charging him should be fired.

    as thomas jefferson pointed out, a corrupt state can charge anyone they want

    “show me the man and i’ll show you the crime”

  178. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Messy
    I await your reply to my post # 147. Here it is:

    #121- Messy
    Please send us a link to your Constitutional scholarship book at Harvard. Thank You.

    #121?Yeah, my book on the subject was used for years in Harvard law’s constitutional law course as a supplement.”

  179. Diamond Jim says:

    CC

  180. jason says:

    CNN broadcasting every one of his campaign events live & in full was probably indispensable to Trump’s election.”

    Yep, because they wanted to make sure he was nominated so they could destroy him later.

    I made this point many times while it was happening, at the time it irritated me because they never covered Rubio’s rallies.

    Backfired spectacularly.

  181. Wobbles says:

    I want Manafort convicted because he worked for the Trump campaign for 3 months. I don’t see why he needed to have broken any laws, that alone should be enough.

  182. Messy says:

    200. Missed it again, dammit!!!!

  183. Tina says:

    Something seems suspicious about papodope. He now wants to toss aside his agreement with Fuhrer Muleheas, if his wife iis accurate.

    It would also appear that if Pete the cheat conducted the interview, the 302 is fake.

    Papodope also met Mifsud before he joined the trump,campaign, Mifsud is an FBI asset. fuhrr knows who Mifsud is.

    Thus, it would appear that papodope told the truth, and even if he lied, the lie was insignificant. It would not have affected the coup plotters.

    Buried in a footnote, Mulehead wants 30 days and claims papodope is not cooperating.

  184. Messy says:

    Wobbles, I want to see Manafort convicted because he DID break a ton of laws. The thing about white collar crime is that it’s not prosecuted enough.

    It’s interesting to note that while the guy who was paying that huge bribe to Manafort to get the Secretary of the Army job didn’t get it, the guy who DID, Vincent Viola, was forced to withdraw his name because he discovered “his inability to successfully navigate the confirmation process and Defense Department rules concerning family businesses”. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trumps-nominee-army-secretary-withdraws-name

    His second nominee at for the job, Mark Green, had other problems….

  185. Tina says:

    Pretty clear that papa dope should never have consented to,an interview with the Fib without an attorney.

    Should have never rushed to execute a guilty plea based in bogus charge.

    Spoke to Mifsud before he was a campaign volunteer.

    302 was altered by Pete the cheat.

    His wife is doing a lot of tweeting saying that they are hiring new legal counsel.

    Mukehead should have realized that papodope had nothing from the very get go. Mulehead should quit the lie about the professor and come clean

  186. Tina says:

    If the fib wants to interview the professor, why not file extradiction?

    Of course, Fuhrer Mulehead is caught in a lie as ismredactstein.

  187. jason says:

    200. Missed it again, dammit!!!!”

    I have a feeling your entire life is one series of misses.

  188. jason says:

    I hope Manafort’s attorney asked the jury, do you think for one nanosecond this man would be here if he hadn’t worked on the Trump campaign for 3 months?

    I am all for prosecuting tax cheats, but this is the most “selective” prosecution I have seen since maybe Martha Stewart’s case.

  189. jason says:

    It’s interesting to note that while the guy who was paying that huge bribe to Manafort to get the Secretary of the Army job didn’t get it,…”.

    The fact you find that “interesting” is testament to how intellectually vacuous you are.

  190. jason says:

    Oh wait, I doubt Messy knows what vacuous means.

    “having or showing a lack of thought or intelligence; mindless.

    synonyms: silly, inane, unintelligent, insipid, foolish, stupid, fatuous, idiotic, brainless, witless, vapid, vacant, empty-headed.”

  191. Wobbles says:

    I agree with you Messy.

    The fact purportedly someone paid Manafort a bribe to get a job in the Administration and didn’t get it, proves beyond a doubt Trump is corrupt.

  192. Chicon says:

    Jason, what was for breakfast this morning?

  193. Bitterlaw says:

    Manafort could be guilty. His trial is motivated by politics. Both can be true.

    If he did what he is accused of (or some of the things he is accused of) I hope he is convicted.

  194. jason says:

    Hey Messy, I think I can get you a job in the Trump administration, perhaps Assistant to the Assistant Custodial Engineer at the Library of Congress. In your spare time, you could even look at some of the books with pictures, wouldn’t that be fun?

    Send me a check for whatever you can afford (be generous) and I will try to get you the job.

    If you don’t get it, however, you will have further proof Trump is corrupt, a valuable commodity in your circles.

    Win-win.

  195. jason says:

    The usual. The only difference was I had the pepper sprinkled slab bacon along with the plain for a little zip. Pancakes with homemade blueberry sauce and Amish butter, scrambled eggs with ham and cheese, toast, biscuits and coffee.

  196. Messy says:

    211. I always did. I’m not sure you did before you googled it however.

    212. No. It proves that Trump HIRED people who are corrupt. Trump’s numerous bankruptcies prove he’s corrupt.

    208. oooooooooooooooo!!!!! that hurt! (not!!!)

    206, 207. How do you know he didn’t? Papadapolos and the missus didn’t expect that he’s wind up in jail. So of course they’re howling.

  197. Chicon says:

    A substantial meal. Do you go with the hickory smoked bacon, or do you like the maple? I’ve yet to actually dislike any bacon, but I like the hickory.

  198. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Messy
    Please review posts 199, 121 and 147.
    You seem to have time for everything else and we,at HHR, are dying to see the book you authored on the Constitution that was taught at Harvard.
    Are you making this up? I say YES!

  199. Tina says:

    It is curious why Mukehead did,not charge Manafort with bribery then Mess-lad. Forwarding somebody’s name for a position in a new admin is not a crime, there is no evidence of a quid pro quo. But Muh Russia, messLsd.

    IF Found not guilty, it would be due to the inept prosecution and their lack of preparation.

    I have to say that the prosecutors, imo, failed to prove anything. The defense raised reasonable doubt.

  200. Tina says:

    Mulehead has to look at Gates, who may have damaged their case.

    He did everything that Manafort allegedly did, extorted money from Manafort, which he admitted under testimony, and extorted money from the Trump Campaign, which he also admitted to under testimony.

    So Gates is given a deal while Manafort, who did less, is not.

  201. mnw says:

    Tina 221

    You know what prosecutors always say about the situation you reference?

    “There are no swans in sewers.”

  202. Chicon says:

    Mnw, I saw your comment on retirement the other day. Sounds like the normal process – it can be a pretty hard transition, sounds like you have a handle on it. Continued good luck with it.

  203. lisab says:

    Manafort could be guilty. His trial is motivated by politics. Both can be true.

    —————————————–

    but … since it is politically motivated, and the only purpose is to threaten him with 100 years in jail or say stuff against trump, regardless if true

    the trial should be ended and the prosecuters fired from government, and even prosecuted

    the government had a chance to prosecute under obama and they chose not to.

    to allow this is the road to moscow’s show trials

  204. lisab says:

    no political show trials!

  205. lisab says:

    as can be seen from robbie’s and messy’s comments above, there is not even a pretense of

    the assumption of innocence, or a search for justice

    one of the reasons people are saying the prosecutors did such a bad job, is that they thought they knew the outcome before they even started

  206. mnw says:

    Chicon

    Thx. Not so sure. My retirement coincided with a late-life divorce, but my kids keep me off the ledge.

    I’m looking forward to seeing what the Bluz put on the ice. One STL sportswriter wrote that, “The Blues seem to have cornered the market on third line players.”

    Have u followed Karen Housley’s campaign for MN SEN? She’s married to Phil Housley. As I’ve posted, I think she will benefit from her NHL HOF husband’s name recognition, in MN & the affection hockey-mad Minnesotans have for him. For decades, he held the record for “most NHL goals scored by an American-born player,” & he is now head coach of the Sabres.

  207. janz says:

    Papadopoulas was targeted, tintilated with damning info about Clinton, and then asked by a crony of Clinton if he knew anything about this back story on Clinton over drinks. When he denied knowing anything, the mission was completed in being able to say he “lied.” Checkmate!

    Flynn was targeted because he was a feisty loose cannon type, disagreed and alienated himself from Obama, and angered senior FBI agent McCabe earlier when he supported a female counter terror agent who had filed a complaint against McCabe. Other agents in the room interviewing Flynn said he seemed truthful, but somehow, after going through the FBI filter machine, he was squeezed to say he lied.

    Manaford is slippery in his finances, business partners and clients, just like Podesta and his brother Tony are, with their many Kremlin dealings. But, hey, the former worked for Trump for 3 months and gets the hook for his misdeeds, while the latter worked for Clinton for years, with only crickets in the air. Consequently, it doesn’t take rocket scientist thinking to deduce that politics was the major card played against Manaford.

  208. Bitterlaw says:

    Just because the trial is politically motivated does not mean Manafort did not do what he is charged with doing. If the evidence supports a conviction, so be it.

  209. mnw says:

    jazz

    I contributed.

  210. mnw says:

    I would like Manafort’s chances much better if the trial was in Garden City, KS, instead of Our Nation’s Capital.

  211. Chicon says:

    Mnw, keep slugging away on that transition; you’ll come out the other side in good shape.

    From the outside it appears the Blues are going for it, which is good. Time will tell how it works, but they’re trying.

    Saw that about Housley. If there’s any place where a hockey name might help, it is there. I spent two winters there in the 80’s – there’s a woman to blame for that – and they had high school hockey on TV in the Twin Cities.

    Cards have responded well to the new manager.

  212. janz says:

    mnw, Many thanks!

  213. janz says:

    BTW, mnw, liked that saying about “no swans in the sewer.” Boy, does that ring true!

  214. Chicon says:

    Bitter, I see your point, but it’s not that black and white, imo. The existence of prosecutor’s discretion means by definition that they choose who to prosecute. The reason for the decision matters in my book. Manafort strikes me as a slime ball, so I won’t feel too bad for him; but it ain’t right for The Man to opt not to prosecute and then change that decision for a politically charged reason.

  215. mnw says:

    janz

    U r welcome.

    RE: Manafort

    I agree with Chicon in 236. Selective prosecution is not a legal argument, but it’s a damn powerful equitable argument, I think.

  216. Ron N says:

    If it wasn’t political motivated it would have been sent out like the podesta and other ones for the same thing. That’s what makes this case wrong if it would have been referred out no problem or not looked at 4 years ago and was decided no to prosecute. Someone just trying to get a scalpe to say see what I did and talking points for MSM.

  217. mnw says:

    I don’t like the new RRH Senate map very much, for multiple reasons. ND is still a” tossup”? Really?

    However, it’s the attached state-by-state commentary that really sux. How true does THIS phrase ring? Tester’s “blue-collar liberal swagger” has served him well. WTF?

  218. DW says:

    Blue Racing Horses is a Democrat site now. They would ban you if you posted something on there about Hillary calling her “Her Thighness” but their moderators call Trump “His Orangeness” and the all laugh about it.

  219. lisab says:

    Just because the trial is politically motivated does not mean Manafort did not do what he is charged with doing. If the evidence supports a conviction, so be it.
    ———-

    well bitterlaw since you are an admitted trump voter and a yankees fan, in a state hillary deserved, i hope you will enjoy the gulag

    for violating the endangered species act on your land in pa, having a high carbon footprint, and whatever else we feel like under robbie justice

  220. Bitterlaw says:

    I was a Yankees fan in my reckless youth.

    I am a Phillies fan since 1990.

    Here is the flip side of Chicon and lisab’s argument. Anybody remotely tied to Trump should not be prosecuted. Run wild, Trump associates! You can do what you want and you will find support at HHR. It’s like The Purge for 4 years.

  221. Ron N says:

    I have no problem with Manafort going to jail my problem is how it is happening. If u can’t see there is no different in how the Clinton and DNC handled the dossie and trump team tried to dig up dirt on the other person you are wrong. If the SC was looking at both I would have no issue but to say one is a crime and the other isn’t is a complete joke do them both or nothing.

  222. Chicon says:

    242 – that is absolutely not the flip side of what I said. Not close.

  223. Weeble says:

    Where’s Wobbles buddy?

  224. Bitterlaw says:

    I would prefer that they prosecute everybody. Of course, only prosecuting one does not make the one innocent.

  225. Trump says:

    McRaven lunatic needs clearance removed NOW.

  226. Bitterlaw says:

    Chicon – If somebody committed the crime, I don’t care about the motivation behind the prosecution. The crime was still committed.

  227. Messy says:

    229 & 231. Oooooo! typos!!!! That must mean you’re morons who are lying, right?

    242. When my mother, God rest her soul, died, my brother used some of her legacy to get his family season tickets for the following season. The Yankees treated my disabled nephew with sympathy and grace and didn’t charge extra. I am angry that they fell apart this month, but I’ll always be a fan.

    229. They had enough on Flynn to indict him and his son with more stuff than they did Manafort and Gates. The perjury charge was a gift for his cooperation.

  228. Chicon says:

    Bitter, I’ll stand with what I wrote in 236. GFY. Cream soda.

  229. Human Question says:

    Is Bitter supposed to GFH with a cream soda?

  230. Chicon says:

    HQ – he’s entitled to do so if it suits him, although I hope he chooses the bottle over the can….

  231. Human Question says:

    Is cream soda fizzy?

  232. Bitterlaw says:

    Chi- We just disagree. You can still GFY but thanks for the cream soda.

  233. Chicon says:

    Any time, Bitter.

  234. J. Cutler says:

    ?

  235. Marco Rubio says:

    Thank you for your thupport!

  236. Cash Cow TM says:

    Governing.com

    10 minutes
    AUGUST 16, 2018
    Time it took an 11-year-old to hack into a replica of Florida’s election results website at a convention. During that brief period, he was able to manipulate names and votes.
    Source: Reuters

  237. Gelt Goose says:

    Honk.

  238. lisab says:

    Here is the flip side of Chicon and lisab’s argument. Anybody remotely tied to Trump should not be prosecuted.
    —————————-

    that is not the flip side, because if you are a trump colleage and get caught and prosecuted now, that is just normal justice

    but manafort was NOT prosecuted BEFORE he worked for trump. only when they need him to testify did they suddenly threaten him with 100+ years in prison … which is NOT normal in these cases

  239. lisab says:

    They had enough on Flynn to indict him and his son with more stuff than they did Manafort and Gates. The perjury charge was a gift for his cooperation.
    ——————————————

    yup … cooperate … inform on your neighbor and your gulag sentence will be less

    ve have vays of making you talk

  240. Bitterlaw says:

    I stand by what I wrote. No free pass for Manafort.

  241. lisab says:

    your support of show trials is noted

  242. lisab says:

    Show Trial Russia 1938 – Bukharin and 20 others

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25JpnWlEfvE

  243. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab’s belief that credible criminal charges should not be brought if the prosecutor also has a political motivation is noted.

    I never said cases without credible evidence should be brought for political reasons.

    Lisab will lie about what I said as long as HHR continues.

  244. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab’s free pass for Manafort is bored.

    I favor prosecuting credible cases. I was excused from jury duty during voir dire because I answered honestly that I was more inclined to believe a police officer than any other witness.

  245. Bitterlaw says:

    Bored should be noted.

  246. lisab says:

    bitterlaw’s support for totalitarianism

    won’t save him, or his family

    as all of stalin’s buddies found out

  247. lisab says:

    don’t worry bitter

    lots of people have become stooges for the government

    you won’t be the first

  248. lisab says:

    “But just take the jurists’ side for a moment: why, in fact, should a trial be supposed to have two possible outcomes when our general elections are conducted on the basis of one candidate? An acquittal is, in fact, unthinkable from the economic point of view! It would mean that the informers, the Security officers, the Interrogators, the prosecutor’s staff, the internal guard in the prison, and the convoy had all worked to no purpose.”

    ? Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago,

  249. Bitterlaw says:

    If Manafort did commit the crimes he was charged with, he should be prosecuted. Only lisab thinks that is totalitarianism.

  250. lisab says:

    If Manafort did commit the crimes he was charged with
    ————-

    way to assume he is guilty …

    but it makes sense a lawyer who has spent his whole career fighting to help the poor and unfortunate …

    oh wait …

    i mean for the rich and powerful would think that way …

  251. lisab says:

    constitutional convention September 1787 …

    james madison: so we are all agreed then … we need to have a bill of rights to protect individuals against government excesses

    bitterlaw: now hold on … let’s not be hasty … you are assuming that the government might overstep … i say that if the government says you are guilty, that should be enough … you did it, you should go to prison … because the government is always right …

  252. Bitterlaw says:

    I did not say Manafort was guilty. I said that if there was credible evidence that he committed crimes he should be prosecuted. The jury will decide if he is guilty or into guilty.

    Lisab’s free pass to Manafort is odd.

  253. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab thinks I represent the rich and powerfu? I wish. That would pay better. I defend people who get into car accidents, have people fall on their sidewalks, and other accidents. I also handle workers compensation cases. She knows this but it does not fit her story about me.

  254. Bitterlaw says:

    Into guilty should be not guilty.

  255. michael corleone says:

    Sorry Bitter, but as an attorney you know that one of the protections for the people is prosecutorial discretion. There are many crimes committed that are never prosecuted because in the big scheme of things they aren’t that important and it would be a waste of resources to prosecute. We know for a fact that the Obama DOJ investigated the Manafort case previously and passed. The only reason he is being prosecuted now is because special prosecutors don’t operate in the “big scheme”. They are singularly focused on certain people, not crimes generally, and PM happened to be in their target.

  256. lisab says:

    I wish. That would pay better.
    ——————
    zzzzzzzzz …. must be tough living in that rich suburb …

    yeah … you are a regular public defender …

    who defends insurance companies …

    of course we should probably give you a break, because you were going to serve your country …

    before you decided to serve insurance companies …

    bitterlaw to mention diabetes in 3 … 2… 1 …

  257. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Facebook refused to allow a Congressional candidate in California to post a video of what her parents suffered during the Cambodian killing fields genocide. Imagine if Facebook had existed in the 1930s; would it have refused to show videos that documented the genocide in the German concentration camps?

    “The Heng campaign released this statement yesterday: This Friday, Facebook revoked approval to advertise Elizabeth Heng’s campaign video detailing why she is running for office in the 16th Congressional District of California. Her video, which includes the story of her American immigrant parents who lived through the atrocity of communism and genocide that ravaged Cambodia in the early 1980s, evidently contained content too “shocking, disrespectful or sensational” for the platform, to quote Facebook directly.

    “It is unbelievable that Facebook could have such blatant disregard for the history that so many people, including my own parents, have lived through,” said Elizabeth. “I’m sure it is shocking for some people to hear about this kind of injustice, but this is reality. This is why I wake up every single day with the fight and determination to have a voice and make a difference in my community. Neither Facebook nor any other company in the tech industry get to silence our stories. We’ve seen it over and over again with Republican candidates and organizations. This kind of censorship is an attack on the freedoms that we have as Americans to express what we believe in, and we must hold Facebook accountable.”

  258. Bitterlaw says:

    MC must have escaped from the dungeon where he was being held by married gays in order to argue that Manafort should get a free pass because he is a Trump supporter. I stand by what I posted in 214. The prosecutorial discretion argument is just a free pass. The solution here is to prosecute more people with ties to Dems who committed similar crimes. The solution is not to let Manafort off unless the jury finds him not guilty.

    As for lisab’s stupid comment about who I represent- Zzzzzzzzz. I represent people and companies who were smart enough to buy insurance. Because of me, they don’t have to sell their house in order to pay somebody exaggerating their case if they are in accident. I represent business owners who won’t have to close their shop or lay off workers to pay the claim of an injured employee who actually caused their own accident. I’m not saving the world. I am providing a service. Lisab should be true to her beliefs and immediately cancel all insurance policies. Good luck.

  259. Bitterlaw says:

    SDC – FB has the right to do that as a company. Bakers should not be compelled to bake. FB can refuse to run ads. In both cases, people should boycott or make public their outrage.

  260. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not support what FB is doing. I support its right to do it.

  261. jason says:

    So Bitter, are you saying a blatantly politically motivated prosecution is ok if someone is actually found guilty?

  262. jason says:

    Just because the trial is politically motivated does not mean Manafort did not do what he is charged with doing.”

    I guess that is my answer.

    I am really surprised. The Kangaroo Courts all over the world will rejoice they have the support of such august company as Bitter for their show trials.

  263. Bitterlaw says:

    No. I am saying that if there is credible evidence that a crime was committed, I want the case prosecuted. There appears to be credible evidence of a crime here but the jury will decide.

    Are you saying that if somebody claims a trial is politically motivated that the case has to be dropped immediately regardless of the evidence? I thought your No Free Lunch stand would apply here.

  264. Bitterlaw says:

    I am sure that politically connected individuals welcome jason’s free pass to commit crimes.

    If Hillary is ever prosecuted, I am sure that she can count on jason’s support when she claims it’s is politically motivated.

  265. jason says:

    I think Bitter is very wrong on this.

    ‘Guilty” is not the only consideration. Often criminals have cases thrown out because the evidence was illegally obtained, even though its clear the accused is “guilty”. Or the prosecution did not follow the law. Or the statute of limitation ran out. Or contaminated evidence. In all these cases the defendant may well be “guilty”.

    To me, if the prosecution brings politically motivated charges that others would not be prosecuted for under the same circumstances, which is pretty obvious here, then that is enough to taint the trial.

    I hate to admit it, but lisab is right in this case. Politically motivated trials are for despotic and for countries where the rule of law don’t apply, not for America.

  266. jason says:

    Despotic regimes it should read.

  267. Tina says:

    There is “credible” evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians.

    -Jebot

  268. Tina says:

    I can see Manafort guilty of the underreporting his taxable income.

    But 100 years in jail?

    Solitary confinement?

    Stuff that goes back to when Bushbama were President?

    That right there shows that this is political

  269. jason says:

    Are you saying that if somebody claims a trial is politically motivated that the case has to be dropped immediately regardless of the evidence?”

    No, I am saying THIS trial is politically motivated and for that reason the judge should have thrown it out.

    The “evidence of a crime” was only a result of a fishing expedition motivated by Manafort’s association with Trump.

    Since these charges have zero to do with Russian “collusion” or interference in the election, its obvious that the only reason they are being brought is not to serve justice, prosecute white collar crime, etc. but to punish Manafort for his association with Trump and to somehow discredit Trump in the process.

    I am all for prosecuting tax cheats. But this is not justice.

  270. jason says:

    I am sure that politically connected individuals welcome jason’s free pass to commit crimes.

    If Hillary is ever prosecuted, I am sure that she can count on jason’s support when she claims it’s is politically motivated.”

    Again, you are using a straw argument nobody has made. Nobody said the defendant gets to decide.

    It seems you agree THIS trial is not politically motivated.

    Astounding.

  271. Tina says:

    I hate to admit it, but lisab is right in this case. Politically motivated trials are for despotic and for countries where the rule of law don’t apply, not for America.

    See Fuhrer Mulehead as an example.

    This entire Special Counsel is illegal. Formed on the basis of lies from Comedy and formed illegally since Redactstein identified no criminal charges.

    Americans should be concerned about the Nazi like tactics by “republican” Mulehead. the House Rs should choke the funding ASAP.

  272. jason says:

    I am sure that politically connected individuals welcome jason’s free pass to commit crimes.”

    I am sure all the Kangaroo Courts by despotic regimes will appreciate Bitter’s support for prosecuting individuals because of their political connections.

  273. Bitterlaw says:

    Again, I did not saw prosecute only for political reasons. I said do not refuse to prosecute credible cases against politically connected people as soon as they cry foul.

    Jason will be the first to demand that Hillary never face prosecution when Trump is President because of the “lock her up” chants. I would prosecute her despite that if the evidence supports bringing charges.

  274. Tina says:

    And Judge Ellis needs to realize that talking tough against the prosecutors is one thing, but he had the power to end this sheot trial, but he elected not to do so.

    100 years in jail and solidarity confinement for a freaking tax matter.

    Who is kidding whom?

  275. Bitterlaw says:

    Read 214 again. I think Manafort’s trial is politically motivated AND there appears to credible evidence that supported bringing a case.

  276. jason says:

    I don’t agree the Special Counsel is illegal or “Nazi-like”. I think it seems to be following a partisan political agenda, which is bad enough.

  277. Robbie says:

    Devastating news for Jason fraud.

    As I said a few weeks ago, don’t mistake Republican support for the job Trump is doing as a signal they’re ready to sign up for another four years of this nonsense.

    If I’m Nikki Haley or Mitt Romney, I look at these numbers and see there’s a legitimate path, albeit a narrow one still, to defeat Mad King Don in the primaries.

    The key is there’s room A candidate, not 4 or 5 candidates.

    NH Journal
    @NewHampJournal

    POLL: 4-in-10 #NH Republicans think GOP primary challenge for @realDonaldTrump would be a good thing.
    Read the deets here–>
    http://www.insidesources.com/exclusive-4-10-n-h-republicans-support-2020-primary-challenge-president-trump/

  278. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    2h
    Study the late Joseph McCarthy, because we are now in period with Mueller and his gang that make Joseph McCarthy look like a baby! Rigged Witch Hunt!
    View details ·

  279. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 19, 2018 at 10:20 am
    I don’t agree the Special Counsel is illegal or “Nazi-like”. I think it seems to be following a partisan political agenda, which is bad enough.

    – Watching Jason fraud morph from a dickish but sane Republican voter into a drooling FoxNews conspiracy theorist Trump ball licker has been enjoyable to watch.

  280. Tina says:

    Jason 17 angry Drats plus fake republican Fuhrer Mulehead, who used Nazi like tactics when he was the fib director.

  281. Robbie says:

    Jason fraud once watched an episode of Judge Janine so he’s now an expert on the law.

  282. Tina says:

    There could be more fireworks if Papadope changes his plea and ends his “cooperation” with Mulehead.

    After all, we need to know how involved Pete the cheat was in this case and whether he altered the 302.

    Papadope met with Mifsud, a fib asset, prior to joining the trump campaign.

    So, Muleheads claim that “super spy” Papadope ruined an investigation is laughable.

  283. jason says:

    I think Bitter’s comparisons of Manafort and Hillary are patently ridiculous.

    Manafort’s dealings with the Ukraine were obscure events, there are probably at least a 1000 “Manaforts” out there dealing with foreign governments, I am sure if you undertake fishing expeditions on all of them you are bound to uncover some crimes. The only difference here was that Manafort was briefly Trump’s campaign manager.

    Hillary’s crimes while she was in public office or in a cabinet position and those pertaining to the Clinton Foundation are very much in the public eye, much harder to claim political motivation for prosecuting them. However, if the prosecution was conducted by some prosecutor with an obvious political agenda, then she might have a case.

    But the analogy stinks.

  284. Robbie says:

    “Truth isn’t truth” – America’s circus clown Rudy Giuliani to Chuck Todd on MTP today.

    Jason fraud pumps his fist in the air as he hears that and then wipes the drool from his mouth and repeats last night’s Judge Janine talking point that Robert Mueller helped cover up Benghazi for Hillary.

  285. Tina says:

    Rudy is throwing down on the money honeys program this am.

    Only Obama could appoint comrade Brennan, a commie, as cia director, (how many fake Rs voted to confirm him)?

  286. Tina says:

    The pedo brothers did the same things as Manafort.

  287. jason says:

    As I said a few weeks ago, don’t mistake Republican support for the job Trump is doing as a signal they’re ready to sign up for another four years of this nonsense.”

    LOL

    The only reason Amoral Scumbag wants Trump to have a challenger is because he thinks it would help a Democrat win the Presidency.

    It’s easy to read through Amoral Scumbag’s tiny mind.

  288. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    August 19, 2018 at 10:27 am
    Jason 17 angry Drats plus fake republican Fuhrer Mulehead, who used Nazi like tactics when he was the fib director.

    – Do you know why Trump switched from 13 to 17, Tinfoil? because Q is the 17th letter of the alphabet. All of you Qanon conspiracy theorists buddies say that’s a sign Q is right and Trump/Putin/Kim are attempting to take down a worldwide child sex trafficking ring. Also, the Mueller investigation is just a cover to take down Hillary.

  289. Tina says:

    62 percent want an end to Fuhrer Mulehead.

    This from cn and n .

    Probably really now 80 percent.

    Rudy has wrecked the credibility of Mulehead in just a few months,

    Go Rudy and keep Tweeting about the angry ds.

  290. jason says:

    I never watched Judge Janine in my life, but for someone who doesn’t watch her Amoral Scumbag sure knows a lot about what she says.

  291. Tina says:

    Muh q.

    Muh Russian

    Pizza port.

    All words uttered by a Ky loon.

  292. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 19, 2018 at 10:36 am
    As I said a few weeks ago, don’t mistake Republican support for the job Trump is doing as a signal they’re ready to sign up for another four years of this nonsense.”
    LOL
    The only reason Amoral Scumbag wants Trump to have a challenger is because he thinks it would help a Democrat win the Presidency.
    It’s easy to read through Amoral Scumbag’s tiny mind.

    – Wrong, unprincipled fraud.

    I want a primary because I want to save the Republican Party (the party you quit by the way) from itself.

    On top of that, I believe Nikki Haley could beat Trump in the primary and defeat, with a certain amount of ease, any challenger the Democrats nominate in 2020.

    But keep sucking on Trump even though you hated him every day of the campaign, refused to vote for him, and then left the party over him only to become one of his most devoted supporters.

  293. jason says:

    I am sure Amoral Scumbag doesn’t watch MSNBC, he just repeats all their talking points here because he came up with them all on his own.

  294. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 19, 2018 at 10:38 am
    I never watched Judge Janine in my life, but for someone who doesn’t watch her Amoral Scumbag sure knows a lot about what she says.

    – The website Mediaite.com keeps me up to date on her pro-Trump screeds.

  295. Tina says:

    I want a primary so that a D will win the General Election.

    Hillary should be President now.

    Jebot

  296. jason says:

    want a primary because I want to save the Republican Party ”

    LOL

    Hilarious.

    Is that why you want them to lose 60 seats, to “save them”?

    You really have the moral compass of a floating turd.

  297. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 19, 2018 at 10:41 am
    I am sure Amoral Scumbag doesn’t watch MSNBC, he just repeats all their talking points here because he came up with them all on his own.

    – I’m sure you don’t watch Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, or Judge Janine, you just happen to repeat all of their pro-Trump drivel because your unprincipled, fraudulent brain came up with them on your own.

  298. Tina says:

    I want a Democrat to win so I can enjoy my caviar and cigars from the Lido Deck.

    -Socialist aka Editor of the Weekly Socialisf

  299. jason says:

    I bet Nikki Haley has 1,000 times the integrity of Amoral Scumbag.

    She is not going to primary Trump, that is as stupid an idea as the “brokered convention” to appoint Jeb Bush as the nominee.

  300. Tina says:

    We need to save the Republican Party by electing a Democrat in the Ge.

    -The consortium of hhr trolls

  301. Chicon says:

    I say we just go straight to the brokered convention.

  302. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 19, 2018 at 10:43 am
    want a primary because I want to save the Republican Party ”
    LOL
    Hilarious.
    Is that why you want them to lose 60 seats, to “save them”?
    You really have the moral compass of a floating turd.

    – Poor Jason fraud’s brain has become so addled by Trumpism, he fails to understand there’s a difference between a prediction and a desire.

    My prediction right now is the Republicans will lose somewhere between 30 and 40 House seats. I’m still unsure what to make of the Senate, but it looks like Republican could actually gain a seat of two right now.

    My desire (different from a prediction, fraud) is to see the party I support (the one you quit over Trump) retain control of the House because nothing good is served by Pelosi running the show and getting the Republican Party tied up in endless investigation where they are forced to defend the rantings and ravings of Mad King Don.

  303. jason says:

    I’m sure you don’t watch Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, or Judge Janine”

    You are right, for once, I don’t. Although I liked Tucker when I watched him years ago.

    I don’t have patience for watching news on TV. Basically the only TV I watch are reality shows, not even watching much football anymore.

    So GFY.

  304. Tina says:

    The brokered convention was so 2012 though.

    As was celebrating obamas win.

  305. mnw says:

    jason & Tina

    The trolls’ prayer: Give us this day our daily illusion.

  306. Tina says:

    Rudy G wants to depose Comrade Brennan.

    I like to be a fly on that wall.

    So comrade Brennan you illegally used the Cia to spy on Americans?

    Did you not soy in the senate in 2014?

    Didn’t the compost call for your removal in 2014 for using the via to spy on the senate?

  307. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 19, 2018 at 10:44 am
    I bet Nikki Haley has 1,000 times the integrity of Amoral Scumbag.
    She is not going to primary Trump, that is as stupid an idea as the “brokered convention” to appoint Jeb Bush as the nominee.

    – Always important to remember Jason fraud believes the person who won’t support a man who screwed a porn star four months after his wife gave birth to their only son and who had a year long affair with a Playboy Playmate while his wife was pregnant with their only son is the amoral scumbag, but the guy who cheated on his wife with a porn star and Playmate is worthy of his undying support and should not be primaried by anyone.

    Also, I’m not predicting Nikki Haley will challenge Trump, but I can always hope. Someone is going to primary Trump so it might as well be someone who could actually beat him and still win the general election in 2020.

  308. jason says:

    (the one you quit over Trump)”

    Still repeating this lie?

    Zzzzzz…..

    Still think its relevant to 2018 I preferred another candidate during the 2016 primaries?

    Zzzzzz….

    Still think its important that I didn’t vote for Trump?

    Zzzzzz….

    Still mired in the primaries when Jeb Bush was the clear the field candidate except for 17 other candidates?

    Zzzzzzz….

    You need some new material, Amoral Scumbag.

  309. Tina says:

    Comrade Brennan called trumps meeting with pooty poot- treasonous during the summit.

    Now, comrade claims he did not say those words.

    Please perp walk him, Huber.

  310. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    August 19, 2018 at 10:48 am
    jason & Tina
    The trolls’ prayer: Give us this day our daily illusion.

    – I love that this sniveling little Trump lover (who smeared the FBI last December) disappeared from this site for years and years and then popped back up to defend Trump with his every being has the temerity to claim I’m a troll even though I’ve been here since 2004 supporting actual Republicans.

    Take your populist loving mouth and shove it around Trump teeny tiny little dick.

  311. Tina says:

    The lovely Lisa Page has helped take out McCabe, a Clinton fixer, and the mentally deranged Pete the cheat.

    I wonder if she has info on Comrade Brennan.

  312. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 19, 2018 at 10:53 am
    Still mired in the primaries when Jeb Bush was the clear the field candidate except for 17 other candidates?
    Zzzzzzz….
    You need some new material, Amoral Scumbag.

    – The guy who has nothing to say other than “but Jeb” tells someone else to get some new material. Now, that’s HHR at its best.

    And aren’t we touchy, Jason fraud, when I bring up the fact you hated Trump every day of the campaign, refused to vote for him, and then left the party over him only to become one his most ardent supporters simply because he won with a R after his name.

    I guess if I’d been shown to be such an unprincipled fraud, I’d be pissy about those facts as well.

  313. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag accuses others of being conspiracy theorists, but here are some of his brilliant ideas.

    – A brokered convention is going to deny Mitt Romney, a certain nominee, and a smoke filled room is going to anoint Jeb Bush the nominee.

    – The RNC is going to engineer a coup at the 2016 convention to deny Trump, a certain nominee, the nomination, and are going to decree Jeb Bush the rightful nominee.

    – Nikki Haley, who seems to have a lot of integrity and has been appointed by Trump to a cabinet position, is going to shaft him in the back and primary him. If that happened, Amoral Scumbag would of course immediately stop supporting her and call for a brokered convention to nominate Jeb Bush.

    But he doesn’t believe in wild theories, no sir.

  314. Robbie says:

    Can the drooling Trump supporters explain this? How is truth not truth? Did the deep state alter the audio?

    NBC News PR
    @NBCNewsPR

    JUST NOW on @MeetThePress:

    Rudy Giuliani tells @ChuckTodd, “Truth isn’t truth.” #MTP

  315. Chicon says:

    Maybe we should hire a Catholic Bishop or Cardinal to be President; the pedophile protectors will raise the moral standing of the office.

  316. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 19, 2018 at 10:59 am
    Amoral Scumbag accuses others of being conspiracy theorists, but here are some of his brilliant ideas.
    – A brokered convention is going to deny Mitt Romney, a certain nominee, and a smoke filled room is going to anoint Jeb Bush the nominee.
    – The RNC is going to engineer a coup at the 2016 convention to deny Trump, a certain nominee, the nomination, and are going to decree Jeb Bush the rightful nominee.
    – Nikki Haley, who seems to have a lot of integrity and has been appointed by Trump to a cabinet position, is going to shaft him in the back and primary him. If that happened, Amoral Scumbag would of course immediately stop supporting her and call for a brokered convention to nominate Jeb Bush.
    But he doesn’t believe in wild theories, no sir.

    – Again, Jason fraud’s brain has been addled by Trumpism, a degenerative disease.

    Each of the items he listed were or are things I WANT or WANTED to happen. They weren’t things I predicted would or will happen.

    Also, I love how the Jason fraud keeps mentioning poor old Jeb. Had there been a convention plot to prevent Trump from getting the nomination, I favored Mitt Romney and wrote that repeatedly. I never mentioned Jeb once he quit the race in February 2016. Only the unprincipled fraud does.

    I guess, though, if the candidate I supported proved to be a sad sack with no backbone like Marco Rubio, I’d be looking for ways to deflect just as Jason fraud does.

  317. Tina says:

    Comrade Brennan to sue to get back his security clearance.

    Lol

  318. jason says:

    And aren’t we touchy, Jason fraud, when I bring up the fact you hated Trump every day of the campaign, refused to vote for him, and then left the party over him only to become one his most ardent supporters simply because he won with a R after his name.”

    when I bring up the fact you hated Trump every day of the campaign,”

    The campaign ended in 2016, I know you haven’t noticed.

    refused to vote for him,”

    Yes, and then he won, so now its time to support him where I think he is doing well for the country. What a novel idea, huh?

    nd then left the party over him”

    I didn’t leave the party over him. I left the party because I don’t think it still reflects the principles that attracted me to it originally.

    to become one his most ardent supporters”

    Hardly. I disagree with Trump on very important issues such as trade and foreign policy, and I am very much against his attacks on the Republican leadership. I support him where his positions are aligned with mine and where I think he is doing good for the country. What a novel idea, huh?”

    Simply because he won with a R after his name.”

    In my view, Trump never a Republican. Now, neither am I. So again, why should I care he has an R after his name.?

    But keep repeating the same lie over and over, it fits your moral compass of a floating turd.

  319. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    August 19, 2018 at 11:01 am
    Maybe we should hire a Catholic Bishop or Cardinal to be President; the pedophile protectors will raise the moral standing of the office.

    – For guy who claims to have been a lurker on this forum since 2004, chicon once again doesn’t know his facts very well.

    If chicon had actually been a lurker and not just a pro-Trump poster who showed up as soon as Trump won, he’d have known I have been extremely critical of Pope Francis and the rotten bishops and Cardinals that South American socialist has appointed in the five and a half terrible years he has led the Church.

    Nice try, though.

  320. jason says:

    the candidate I supported proved to be a sad sack with no backbone like Marco Rubio,”

    Yeah, the guy that really showed backbone was Jeb, huh?

    200 million for 4 delegates.

    And what happened to guy who you said “would never challenge Jeb for the nomination”.

    You know the Marco Rubio that kicked Jeb’s ass in EVERY facet of the campaign, and was responsible for one of the greatest debate putdowns of all time?

    But in any case, I got over my candidate losing.

    You are still talking about who I “hated” in the primaries.

    Sad, pathetic, loser.

  321. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 19, 2018 at 11:08 am

    But keep repeating the same lie over and over, it fits your moral compass of a floating turd.

    – At least I have a moral compass that isn’t guided by whether someone has a R or a D after the name. If Obama had done every single thing Trump has done, you would be in a rightful state of perpetual outrage. But because Trump has done these things with a R after his name, you’re fine with it.

    And it is so brave of you to object to, of all things, Trump’s trade policy. So brave. They should give you a political badge of courage for your bravery. You’re a beacon of courage as you oppose tariffs and *checks notes* support the president using his Twitter feed to attack the looks of women with whom he doesn’t like. SO brave. An Iwo Jima style monument will be built to your political courage.

  322. jason says:

    The amoral scumbag that is critical of Fox News just admits he is addicted to Chuck Todd.

    LOL.

  323. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 19, 2018 at 11:13 am
    the candidate I supported proved to be a sad sack with no backbone like Marco Rubio,”
    Yeah, the guy that really showed backbone was Jeb, huh?

    – Yep. He refused to compromise his values and support a man he believed was unfit to serve as president. That’s backbone. Try and find yours again.

    On the other hand, Rubio spent the last part of his campaign mocking Trump’s hand size and giving very serious press conferences where he said Trump was unfit to serve as president. He even sold #neverTrump swag on his website.

    Four weeks later, Rubio said it would be a honor for him to speak in favor of Trump at the convention.

  324. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 19, 2018 at 11:15 am
    The amoral scumbag that is critical of Fox News just admits he is addicted to Chuck Todd.
    LOL.

    – LOL. Addicted to Chuck Todd. Hardly. That tweet was retweeted into my timeline. Sorry to ruin your day, unprincipled fraud.

    By the way, fraud. Can you explain how truth isn’t truth?

  325. jason says:

    checks notes* support the president using his Twitter feed to attack the looks of women with whom he doesn’t like. ”

    Absolutely. I support Trump’s attacks on fake news 100%.

    You are the one who sacrifices your principles by supporting an MSM you know is partisan, dishonest and crooked just because at the moment it fits your agenda.

    And Mika was not someone who “Trump dislikes”. She was engaged in a fake, stupid, fraudulent and unsupported campaign regarding his “mental health” (which you supported btw, and where is your little fake psychologist hero, seemed to have disappeared, huh?).

    If there IS one thing I have consistently defended here since Trump was elected, it has been his attacks on the Pravda like MSM we have in this country, which Amoral Scumbag would be outraged about it was targeting Jeb Bush, but fully supports because it targets Trump.

    The moral compass of a floating turd.

  326. jason says:

    That tweet was retweeted into my timeline.”

    LOL

    As I am sure any left wing tweet from any MSM source is.

    What does Lord Arsehat think?

  327. Tina says:

    Maria Bartiromo: So what are you going to do when John Brennan sues you?

    Rudy Giuliani: (Laughs out loud and claps)… Well then we take his deposition. As a plaintiff he has to go first. I’d volunteer to do that case for the president. I’d love to have Brennan under oath for how many days, two or three days. We’ll find out about Brennan and we’ll find out what a terrible job he did going back to the when he was the head of mission when the Kobar Towers were bombed and our Marines were killed.

    Add yellow cake, Iraq had wmds, slam dunk, water boarding, Benghazi, and how does a commie become cia director?

  328. jason says:

    On the other hand, Rubio spent the last part of his campaign mocking Trump’s hand size”

    Were those “last days” after your clear the field, suck up the money, juggernaut 200 million for 4 delegate candidate had already quit in complete humiliation?

    What happened?

  329. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 19, 2018 at 11:25 am
    On the other hand, Rubio spent the last part of his campaign mocking Trump’s hand size”
    Were those “last days” after your clear the field, suck up the money, juggernaut 200 million for 4 delegate candidate had already quit in complete humiliation?
    What happened?

    – Rubio’s strategy was clearly that of a principled candidate. We all know you say someone is morally unfit only to say four weeks later you’d be honored to speak in support of him at the convention.

  330. Tina says:

    In my timeline, I also receive tweets from:

    Ny times

    Dnc

    Wp

    Cnn

  331. Robbie says:

    If Barak Obama had called Megyn Kelly a dog on Twitter, Jason fraud would have blown his top with rage.

  332. Chicon says:

    341 – was I addressing you, little man?

  333. Tina says:

    “That ticket would simply be a one-time, emergency adjustment to the unfortunate circumstance (if it happens) of a Trump nomination,” Mr. Kristol wrote in an email. It “would support other Republicans running for Congress and other offices, and would allow voters to correct the temporary mistake (if they make it) of nominating Trump.”

    Max Boot, a foreign policy adviser to Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, said that if efforts to block Mr. Trump fell short, he would vote against a Republican nominee for the first time in his life.

    “I would sooner vote for Josef Stalin than I would vote for Donald Trump,” said Mr. Boot, who expressed optimism that Mr. Trump could still be defeated. He added: “There is no way in hell I would ever vote for him. I would far more readily support Hillary Clinton, or Bloomberg if he ran.”

    Boot and Comrade, this is he drat ticket for 2020

  334. Tina says:

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/08/18/papadopoulos-wire-mueller/

    Papadope did not wear a wire, as speculated by the loon here.

  335. Messy says:

    298. It’s not partisan, it’s your average RICO probe. That’s the only way to look at it.

    Papadapolos and his lovely wife are freaking out because he was bullsh*tting some and now he’s going to spend six months in the pokey. He cannot withdraw his guilty plea.

  336. Messy says:

    “Truth isn’t truth!”
    —Rudy Giuliani

  337. Bitterlaw says:

    If she had to vote for either Clinton/Kaine or Boot/Kristol in 2016 (no write in vote or not voting) what would Tina have done?

    I was angry and physically ill at the thought of voting for Trump. I came very close to not voting for President. Still, I made the appalling choice to vote for Trump because of the Supreme Court.

  338. Tina says:

    Physically ill?

    Over a presidential candidate.

    Uh please…

  339. Bitterlaw says:

    It’s true, Tina. I know how I felt.

    You can answer the question now.

  340. Paul says:

    Hi Bitterlaw,
    I do respect your opinion, so I want to ask you a question to help me better understand things. What are the big things that you were fearful would happen if Clinton were to have picked these two SC judges instead of Trump?

  341. lisab says:

    I am sure that she can count on jason’s support when she claims it’s is politically motivated.
    ——-fo———–

    she could certainly count on my support if it was the trump administration prosecuting her …

    now, after trump is gone, and someone is in power who does not have a campaign slogan of “lock her up”, wants to take up the case in a bipartisan non-political manner, then sure, put her on trial

  342. Tina says:

    Are you asking whether I was physically ill?

    No, I mailed my ballot from Hawaii on the last day possible.

    Sorry that you apparently agonized to the point of becoming ill, however.

  343. lisab says:

    200 million for 4 delegates.
    ———————————–

    jason,

    that is very misleading

    jeb bush only got 3 votes at the convention by actual delegates

  344. lisab says:

    ben carson got 7 🙂

  345. jason says:

    jason,

    that is very misleading

    jeb bush only got 3 votes at the convention by actual delegates”

    I was trying to make Amoral Scumbag feel good.

    I thought it would be humiliating to point out that Rubio, who Amoral Scumbag guaranteed here would never dare challenge Jeb, won 38 times more delegates.

    By saying Jeb won 4, it was only like 28 times more.

  346. Messy says:

    As you remember, a number of votes for Rubio, Cruz and others were counted as votes for Trump.

    Manafort did that.

  347. Bitterlaw says:

    Nice dodge, Tina. The question was how would you have voted in a Clinto/Kaine v. Bost/Kristol race? No write-in or non-vote allowed.

  348. Bitterlaw says:

    Paul:

    Hillary’s SCOTUS picks would effectively end the 2d Amendment, end the 1st Amendment’s protecting for religious freedom, rubber stamp her Executive Orders, allow her to grant. Itizenship to illegals, etc. Too dangerous to accept for me despite my personal hatred and mistrust of Trump.

  349. Tina says:

    Depends on their party affiliations, bl. I have no clue who max boot is.

  350. Tina says:

    Krystsl is a socialist as he indicated when the tax cuts were passed.

    Boot claims to be an R, but praised Stalin.

  351. lisab says:

    As you remember, a number of votes for Rubio, Cruz and others were counted as votes for Trump.

    Manafort did that.
    ————————–

    explains why you hate him

  352. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    371. “Hillary’s SCOTUS picks would effectively end the 2d Amendment, end the 1st Amendment’s protecting for religious freedom, rubber stamp her Executive Orders, allow her to grant. Itizenship to illegals, etc. Too dangerous to accept for me despite my personal hatred and mistrust of Trump.”

    I second Bitter’s comments.

  353. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Believe that Rubio made the “small hands” comment about Trump only once, at a campaign rally. He later expressed regret for making the comment. By contrast, Trump was referring to him as “Little Rubio” and making other derogatory comments about Rubio throughout the campaign.

  354. Phil says:

    …..and I third them.

  355. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Robbie your comments in post 332 were over the top. It is ironic you attack Trump for being such an uncouth and vulgar person, yet you are one yourself.

  356. NYCmike says:

    Robbie is HHR’s version of Phil Mudd from CNN

  357. Tina says:

    The Jebot is just unhinged., Muh Russian is falling apart.

  358. Paul says:

    371: Thanks, Bitterlaw. I kept hearing fear of Clinton’s justices but didn’t know what were the major concerns.

  359. jason says:

    Hillary’s SCOTUS picks would effectively end the 2d Amendment, end the 1st Amendment’s protecting for religious freedom, rubber stamp her Executive Orders, allow her to grant. Itizenship to illegals, etc”

    That is only the beginning. Hillary’s appointees would be extremely hostile to individual liberties, free enterprise, personal responsibility, in other words they would be actively implementing the nanny state rather than interpreting the Constitution. They would “pro criminal” rather than “pro victim”, against the death penalty and soft on crime. They would always side with unions against business no matter what the circumstances were. The economic costs of all the anti-business decisions would be horrendous.

    The benefits of having avoided a liberal SCOTUS cannot be understated. It’s one of the reasons the moonbats are unhinged.

  360. Chicon says:

    Why do people believe that the White House counsel (or council, as Robbie would say) talking to Mueller is doom for Trump? Trump had to authorize the disclosure, and waive a couple possible privileges.

  361. mnw says:

    Chicon 385

    Because they went to the Marvel Comics School of Law, perhaps.

  362. Tina says:

    Chicon, it is old news too. Recycled my Maggie Hack.

    A couple of weeks ago, they recycled a story on trump tower and Ms. vida.

    Of course the two Jebots never answer who,sent her there and why she spoke to Simpson before and after her meeting.

    Moreover, they conveniently ignore that she was not a Russian gubment official. She was probably paid by Fusion.

  363. DW says:

    Mets completed a rare five game series, against the Phillies.

    Total score over the five games:

    Mets 43
    Phils 20

    And the Mets managed to win only 3 of the 5 games.

  364. Wes says:

    Lisa, if Republicans gain seats in the House this year given all the seats they’re already likely to lose, it would be like winning a billion-dollar Powerball jackpot twice.

    It’s simply not going to happen.

  365. Wes says:

    Dems sued to get the MT Green Party off the ballot. (So much for voter choice!) Now the Greens are suing to get back on the ballot. Pass the popcorn.

    http://www.ktvq.com/story/38882281/montana-green-party-files-suit-in-federal-court-to-gain-ballot-access

  366. Wes says:

    Maybe Morrisey should air an ad citing Manchin’s hypocrisy in running an ad in 2010 showing him shooting the Obamacare law:

    http://wvmetronews.com/2018/08/16/manchin-ad-goes-after-morrisey-for-obamacare-lawsuit/

    This just seems like a bizarre campaign strategy by Manchin.

  367. Wes says:

    The Dems have a CF going in the FL gubernatorial primary:

    http://floridapolitics.com/archives/272248-poll-democratic-race-for-florida-governor-is-as-close-as-ever

    It seems to me any of the people in this clown car will be weak after this.

  368. Phil says:

    We won’t lose the 50 or 60 seats Robbie is hoping for, but I think we lose 25 to 30. The Pa Supreme Court alone guaranteed four of five. That was quite a coup. Losing a seat in NC and another in Va (Comstock) are the type of seats we would need to win to narrowly hold on to the House and I don’t see it happening.

    The question will be whether impeachment will happen. If the Democrats are smart they’ll just use their majority to shut down any further investigation of the deep state and their 2016 efforts to wreck the Trump campaign and let it go at that. Whether they can resist their unhinged Trump hatred enough to refrain from impeachment is an open question. I firmly believe impeachment is a political blunder and helps Trump. I hope they try it.

  369. Diamond Jim says:

    CD

  370. DW says:

    401 – because too many out in the rural areas of the state are still fighting the civil war and would just as soon secede from the union. Stewart is their hero. I voted for Freitas and did what I could to stop it. My next move is to consider a move to NC. VA is gone.

  371. mnw says:

    I wish all GOP candidates were as shrewd as Gov. Scott. I stopped watching this race closely awhile back. Nelson has reached terminal velocity, I suspect.

  372. Tina says:

    They will have to shut down the investigations.

    The House Rs are doing a good job at exposing the corruption by comedy, McCabe, Pete the cheat, etc.

    The Senate investigations are gummed up by Grassley and Burr. Burr has finally turned against the coup plotters, unloading on Comrade.

    What we need is an investigation of SSIC and hopefully Huner starts indicting comedy, et. Al.

  373. DW says:

    NM Senate:

    Heinrich 39
    Johnson 21
    Rich 11

    Emerson is the pollster, so take this for what its worth.

  374. Tina says:

    And I hope they perp walk comrade, the penguin, comedy, McCabe, sjw Yates, etc.

    I hope that Rudy G does the depo on comrade.

    So, when did you spy on the senate, comrade?

    What years?

    Did Obama authorize your illegal spying?

    Do you know that the cia cannot spy on Americans?

    What was your role in water boarding? What was your role in the kobar towers? Why did you agree that Iraq had wmds, and the case was a slam dunk?

  375. Wes says:

    The VAGOP used to be a well-run party, DW. It was one of the first breakthroughs for the GOP in the South and accumulated electoral strength from the late 1960s to 2000. Aside from Warner in 2002 and McDonnell in 2009, it’s been all downhill for them since.

  376. Todd McCain says:

    Luckily, the GOP candidate is very weak and it reminds me a little of the Leiberman Lamont race. Need to get that GOP vote down as much as possible for Rich and transfer it to Johnson!

  377. Wes says:

    Nelson seems to dislike Scott on a personal level, Mnw. That’s why I’m surprised the Senator isn’t putting up more of a fight.

  378. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The statewide contests in New Mexico could be interesting this year according to a just-released Emerson College Poll.
    In the Senate race, Gary Johnson(I) has roiled things although he has a ways to go before he catches the Democrat incumbent, Martin Heinrich.
    In the Governor’s race, Pearce(R) is down 40/42.
    Suzanna Martinez(R), the current NM Governor,has a 31% approval rating. What happened to this once Republican rising star?

    https://www.emerson.edu/sites/default/files/Files/Academics/ecp-pr-nm-8.19.18.pdf

    Can somebody kindly inform Messy that New Mexico is a USA State and not a district in Mexico? Thank You.

  379. Wes says:

    I have NM-Gov as a Likely D Pickup for November, Sheep. If Martinez is at 31% approval, I highly doubt Pearce is within striking distance of winning.

  380. Human Question says:

    Whatever happened to Randolph Scott?

  381. mnw says:

    Cramer has an excellent new 30-second TV ad up hitting Heitkamp on her support for’ sanctuary cities’ (a gagworthy phrase, btw).

    It’s really good. It is what are other GOP nominees should be doing to energize the Obama/Trump voters, imo. Remember, those voters are NOT Republicans– they are Trump supporters. The GOP can not reach them with plain vanilla ads such as Balderson ran recently in OH-12.

    Good ad, at NRO online. Cramer is not a natural actor, btw. My HS sophomore could say Cramer’s lines better than he does. But the message is simple & likely irrefutable.

    I can’t imagine how or why Heitkamp let herself get on the unpopular side of an issue such as that.

  382. Wes says:

    I understand Heitkamp loses some support at home for backing sanctuary cities, but is that really an issue most North Dakotans are really excited about? I think Cramer’s above letter to farmers and ranchers in his state is part of a more effective campaign to attract voters than discussing sanctuary cities.

  383. mnw says:

    Wes 414

    Yes, I think it is– in the sense that it helps to define Heitkamp as an out-of-touch liberal, not in touch with ND values.

    Cramer has the luxury of doing whatever he wants in a state Trump carried by such a margin. Apparently he sees illegal alien coddling as a winner.

    For GOP nominees less fortunately situated than Cramer (i.e., in swing districts), they’ve GOT to motivate those Obama/Trump voters, or they will lose. I think the GOP very wrongly thinks of those voters as part of the GOP “base.” They are not! The trolls are right: Balderson in OH-12 WAS a warning. He tried to run on education funding & anti-opioid abuse, & the Trump voters didn’t turn out. Trump’s one-minute-to-midnight rally saved Balderson– barely.

    This is not original thinking on my part. Henry Olsen made this same argument better & in great detail in a 3-part series of articles he contributed to the American Greatness blog.

  384. lisab says:

    Lisa, if Republicans gain seats in the House this year given all the seats they’re already likely to lose, it would be like winning a billion-dollar Powerball jackpot twice.

    It’s simply not going to happen.
    ——-
    wes, i certainly agree it is astronomically unlikely, but there are more things in heaven and earth than most hhr poster’s philosophies dream about

    for example, 9/11, trump winning the nomination and then general election, the eagles winning a superbowl or wobbles losing his virginity to a female in real life

    miraculous things can and do happen

  385. Wes says:

    I think you should replace Robbie with Corey in 416, Lisa. I believe Robbie’s married whereas Corey would likely have trouble identifying female private parts if they were pointed out to him in biology class.

    Regardless, the odds against the Republicans’ gaining seats in the House are so astronomical as to render this debate pointless.

    They’re not going to do it despite Dblaikie’s wide-eyed prediction. It’s that simple.

  386. lisab says:

    as i said above, it would take a game changing event

    but … with antifa on the board and women apparently mentally ill enough to marry wobbles — which i would have guessed is a far more unlikely event than 9-11– anything can happen

  387. John says:

    CBS pollster Anthony Salvanto, whom warned that the ‘2016 contest would be tight and to be ready for a long, long night’ has now come out and says a blue wave is unlikely and actually the R’s have a chance to hold onto the House.
    https://nypost.com/2018/08/18/cbs-news-pollster-reveals-why-blue-wave-is-unlikely/

    This goes hand in hand with a Zogby poll done recently that reveals that the D’s are stuck at 40% in a generic ballot since May.
    https://zogbyanalytics.com/news/864-the-zogby-poll-republicans-are-gaining-ground-on-democrats-in-the-congressional-generic-voters-trust-president-trump-with-the-economy-and-keeping-america-safe-much-more-than-democratic-leaders-republicans-and-trump-are-winning-back-independents

  388. Wes says:

    All right.. I’m going to stop arguing with you now because we just keep rehashing the same things.

    Even so, the jab at Robbie was funny.

  389. mnw says:

    John

    Thx. I think most of us poll junkies were familiar with the CBS pollster’s analysis. I think there are some promising tea leaves about GOP enthusiasm.

    Wes

    I keep waiting, waiting, waiting for Rosendale to break out. BRH (Blue Raisin Ho’s) has been particularly irritating on the MT SEN race.

  390. lisab says:

    a one in a billion event … approximately seven billion people on the planet … half female … schizophrenia in roughly 1% of the population … that’s only 0.035 women at best …

    as suppose if we add psychopaths and drug addled meth heads … nope … still cannot account for it

  391. Wes says:

    In the NM-Sen race, Heinrich has consistently been below 50% despite being a Dem Senator in a state carried comfortably by both Obama and Hillary.

    I’ve always considered Heinrich to be a political lightweight who basically has done nothing but coast on the post-2006 partisan lean of his state. He has no accomplishments to speak of as Senator and has little presence in the state–unlike his co-Senator, Tom Udall, who is a much cagier, more formidable pol.

    Bolstering my perception was Heinrich’s unexpectedly weak victory over Heather Wilson in 2012. Although Obama carried the state by a solid 53-43 margin, Udall beat Wilson by only 51-46 despite comfortable polling leads throughout the race. This was not a sign of strength on Heinrich’s part.

    Had Hillary prevailed in 2016, I’m sure I would have moved NM-Sen to Tossup or Lean R Pickup before now. Right now, I think Heinrich is a supremely weak Senator who’s drawn a formidable opponent in Gary Johnson.

    I rank it as Tossup for the moment. Johnson is impossible to tie to Trump–having run against him and been openly critical of him in 2016–and still has residual popularity from his successful time as Governor. This means New Mexicans hesitant about sending Trump another Republican in the Senate have a realistic option against their Invisible Senator.

    If Johnson does prevail, he will be the first Libertarian ever elected above municipal office.

  392. Wes says:

    Mnw, I think Rosendale can use the Pearl Jam incident to paint Tester as a tool of fringe leftists with agendas radically different from what most Montanans espouse.

  393. Wes says:

    Apparently the WIGOP is uniting behind Leah Vukmir:

    https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/politics/elections/2018/08/14/wisconsin-u-s-senate-vukmir-nicholson-battle-gop-nomination/949471002/

    Will it be enough? I don’t know. Walker seems to be trying to extend his shelflife. While on the one hand, Walker has been a good Governor, fatigue may be setting in. If he prevails, he may drag Vukmir across the finish line. On the other hand, Walker is a rather significant lightning rod. Liberal opposition to him compounded with enthusiasm against Trump may be enough to send both Walker and Vukmir into the private sector in January.

    It’s going to be doubly brutal and ugly in Wisco between now and November.

  394. Paul says:

    416 “9/11. miraculous things do happen.”

    Most of us wouldn’t put 9/11 in that category.

  395. Wes says:

    I just found out Republicans chose a black man as their sacrificial lamb–I mean, nominee–for Debbie Stabenow’s Senate seat in Michigan:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/03/us/politics/john-james-michigan.html

    James seems like a good candidate, but honestly he’s about as likely to win as Corey is to have a fourway with Aubrey Peeples, Ryan Newman, and Julieth Roman.

    His nearly guaranteed loss should make BJG’s I P 727 orgasm.

  396. janz says:

    Walker supposedly has the best on-the-ground campaign going, honed by years of beating back the odds, I guess. The numbers in WI are good under his governance, so I tend to think he will overcome any fatigue that may have set in around his time in office.

    Furthermore, I agree that his teamwork will only help Vukmir’s run for the Senate.

  397. Wes says:

    At the same time, Janz, Walker has not fared well in recent polling. He’s been a good Governor, but realistically there is the strong possibility he’s become yet another pol who enjoys his job so much he stays around just one election too long only to find voters have moved past him.

  398. mnw says:

    I return to the fact that Vukmir & Nicholson have worn out the WI GOP donors. Also, you can talk unity, but Nicholson & Vukmir made harsh charges against each other, & Baldwin will recycle that material now,

    I think Housley’s situation in MN is the more intriguing of those 2 races.

  399. Wes says:

    Even despite Trump’s surprisingly narrow loss there in 2016, MN has been notoriously anti-GOP since 2006, Mnw. I highly doubt Housley has much of a realistic chance in a state where Trump as President is likely much more of a millstone to the party than was Trump as candidate.

  400. Wes says:

    The RGA has $87 million to the DGA’s $18 million. With 26 governorships up and only a couple of offensive opportunities, they are going to need it.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/402342-dems-see-chance-to-cut-into-gop-governorships

  401. janz says:

    #428 I would not underestimate John James in his attempts to unseat Stabenow. He’s an attractive, articulate man with a business and military background. His back story is amazing – graduating from West Point, becoming a Ranger-qualified aviation officer, getting an MBA, being a Black Belt, practicing Christian and having a wife involved with thwarting human trafficking. I like him a lot, as do others who are actively supporting his candidacy. He also has the approval of the POTUS – for whatever that’s worth.

    I remember you were dubious, as well, about Johnson’s ability to win his WI senate seat back last time around, wes. IMO, once again you may be surprised this November. As for Jame’s ethnicity, I think it will be a plus in a state with a large demographic of AA’s. Also, he is hardly a BLM type, having a biracial family with a Caucasian wife and two beautiful boys. Such positive details only heightens a candidate’s desirability, especially when weighed against someone as dreary, ineffective and part of the now decried elite like Stabenow is.

  402. DW says:

    435 – Johnson benefited in WI from Walker’s GOTV machine as well as the kick-over-the-table Trump voters in the western part of the state. James might be a wonderful candidate, but its still a huge uphill climb to defeat Stabenow. I hope he does it…that would be a huge upset. But Detroit is still Detroit.

  403. Phil says:

    My current assessment of the state of the senate races.

    I think the GOP picks up Florida, ND, Mo, Indiana.

    I think we hold Tennessee and narrowly hold Nevada.

    I think Democrats flip Arizona.

    Democrats hold Montana and West Virginia.

    I’d take this result in a heartbeat. I would even take a split with Mo and Indiana. That would be +2.

  404. janz says:

    #430 wes, I agree the polls have been less than encouraging for Walker. However, in some of his previous election battles the same scenario was present, being down in the polls. Maybe this time he won’t get lucky. Nonetheless, Walker at least knows how to navigate and weather an uphill race — instincts that can only help him survive the current challenge in November.

  405. Wes says:

    Initially I was dubious about Johnson’s ability to win. He quickly proved a formidable campaigner and used the combination of a wave and a strong gubernatorial candidate on the ballot to oust Feingold.

    2018 is not 2010. The President is at least nominally a Republican, and MI despite narrowly going for Trump in 2016 is still a strongly Dem state on the federal level. Although Terri Land initially ran a good campaign in the 2014 cycle, she basically gave up in April and lost by 13 to a supremely flawed opponent. Before that, Republicans last seriously contested one of the state’s Senate seats in 2000–when Spence Abraham lost reelection.

    James has none of the advantages Johnson had–money, organization, a frontrunning ticket mate running for Governor, or a party wave–and is going to be swimming against the tide of leftist enthusiasm in a GOP midterm.

    I would like to see him win, but I have seen exactly no evidence Republicans are going to help James topple Stabenow. If anything, they’re much more likely to pour their money into trying to retain the Governor’s Mansion.

  406. Wes says:

    I wouldn’t write AZ off, Phil. McSally is a great candidate who’s already proved her electoral bona fides by winning on hostile territory against a sympathy opponent in 2014 and winning reelection decisively in 2016. AZ is still a Republican state, Sinema has benefited from having no money spent against her while Republicans sort out their nominee.

    I expect McSally to at least catch up to Sinema shortly after the primary.

  407. Wes says:

    Janz, Walker is a great candidate, but even the most savvy pols can stay around too long and lose.

    See Warren Magnusson (D-WA) as an example. Magnusson was a fixture in Evergreen State politics going back to the Roosevelt Era. He had never had a close election in decades. Then all of a sudden Slade Gorton appeared on the scene and said Magnusson had been around too long. Magnusson had no real retort to Gorton’s charges and was trying to swim against the Reagan tide. He lost reelection 46-54, marking the first time a Republican won a WA Senate seat since 1946.

  408. janz says:

    “But Detroit is still Detroit.”

    DW, and Detroit also has a lot of black voters, a demographic that is ever so slightly turning to the R party under the current POTUS. IMO, MI will be an intriguing election to see if anything has changed at all in the lock-step party affiliation the black community has foolishly attached itself to for so many years.

    Oh, and I agree with mnw in how he is viewing the Housley race in MN. She is another “attractive” R candidate — young, charismatic female, with a husband revered in the sports world. She definitely has a chance there, especially with the “me-to” clouds surrounding the dem AG candidate, Ellison, and an opponent who has some political glitches of her own to deal with.

  409. janz says:

    #441 Now here I agree with you 100%, wes, regarding McSally’s candidacy. She appears to be getting stronger not only in the polling but in her on-air interviews as well. I heard her just this morning, and she was impressive.

  410. janz says:

    Oopa, My last post was in response to wes’s 440 one not 441.

    With regards to Walker’s dem opponent, I think Tony Evers is about as dry and unexciting of an rival as you can get. Furthermore, some of the Walker policies Evers is now against, he earlier seemed to support. This, however, will be yet another interesting test to see if a long but successful incumbency can win out over a milquetoast opponent.

  411. Tina says:

    Phil, a good list, but as Wes indicates, McSally is getting stronger.

    The R registration advantage is now about 150000. Up about 16000 net since 2016.

    I would still take your list though.

  412. mnw says:

    I’m not predicting Housley to win… yet. However, I think Wes underestimates both Housley’s appeal & “incumbent” Sen. Tina Smith’s (D) lameness.

    I can easily see voters going back & forth on the ballot, with Ellison on there. Klobuchar’s presence on the ballot might help Housley– people may think one lefty DEM Senator is enough?

    Over at BRH, I put Rosendale & Housley at 4 & 5 on my “likelihood to flip” list, & left off Manchin & Donnelly.

    If the GOP can flip ND, FL & MO, & hold TN, AZ & NV, I’d call that a great showing, & probably as good as it gets.

    Heller has caught a break with Rosen. I’m still skeptical he can pull it off.

  413. lisab says:

    416 “9/11. miraculous things do happen.”

    Most of us wouldn’t put 9/11 in that category.
    ——————————

    well if you mean it was an evil event, then i can see your point,

    but the number of things that had to go wrong for the usa and right for the attackers …

    and

    on the good side, the attackers foolishly attacked very early when the buildings were still largely empty

    make the event incredibly unlikely

  414. lisab says:

    fortunately the dems have fixed the issue by allowing hundreds of thousands of muslims into the country

  415. lisab says:

    A model and escort from Belarus who caused a sensation by claiming to have information linking Russian interference to the election of President Donald Trump said Monday that she no longer has the evidence and will not talk about it.

  416. lisab says:

    Stevie Wonder links Aretha Franklin’s cancer to ‘global warming’…

  417. lisab says:

    see … right wing newspapers censor the news
    ——————–

    Liberty University: Censorship of the Student Newspaper or Editorial Control?

    Tension between the newspaper and [Liberty president Jerry Falwell Jr.] emerged in 2016: To the dismay of some Champion staffers, he strongly endorsed Donald Trump. Falwell began reviewing prior to publication Champion articles that mentioned Trump. On one occasion, he made Champion editors end opinion pieces with a note on how they were voting. Opinion writer Jordan Jarrett chose not to and found a note under her published article: “The writer refused to reveal which candidate she is supporting for president.”

  418. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    Vows Turkey will not be cowed by USA…

    Turkey….COWED!

  419. NYCmike says:

    I think it all depends on the issues being fought about in late October/early November.

    If the correct issues are being hashed over, many House Republicans will hold on, and there could be some surprises with the Senate races.

    Remember, it will not be the same situation as a special election, where every media channel and leftist special interest protest group can descend on one specific place for a whole month in advance of the election. This is one day, 470 federal elections + a bunch of state contests.

    Issues, candidates, and $$ will hold sway!

  420. GF says:

    janz says:

    August 20, 2018 at 12:40 pm

    “…He’s an attractive, articulate man…”
    **************************************************

    But is he “articulate, bright and clean?” Joe Biden wants to know, because that would make James “a storybook man.” Also, Harry Reid may need to launch an inquiry as to James’ potential “Negro dialect;” can he turn it on and off as Reid suggested about President Obama?

  421. DW says:

    OH-12 Updates:
    Delaware and Muskingum counties finish counting their provisional/absentee ballots….Balderson (R) gains 249 votes…..expands his vote lead to 1,813
    https://twitter.com/phrontpage

  422. Hugh says:

    456. Sweet

  423. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I complained about Robbie’s vulgarity in a post yesterday, so will make the same complaint about other posters today. Is there really a need for high school locker room sexual banter in blog in which adults are talking about national politics?

  424. DW says:

    SanDiegoCitizen, you won’t find me doing any of that.

  425. Robbie says:

    Miserable for me to be in agreement with Steve Bannon.

    Lisa Mascaro
    @LisaMascaro

    Bannon tells AP he believes the GOP would lose 35-40 seats in the House if the election were held today.

  426. mnw says:

    The trolls’ prayer again. Give us this day our daily illusion.

  427. Chicon says:

    460 – well, cheer up, you have similar track records. And you do want him to be right, after all….

  428. Chicon says:

    462 – Freudian slip….you want Bannon to be wrong, don’t you?

  429. mnw says:

    Chicon

    The new Cards’ manager HAS been a big surprise. Last time I looked, they’d be in the playoffs if the season ended, as of yesterday.

  430. Tina says:

    Florida

    St Leo polls

    Trump,at 50

    Scott over Senator Muh Russian hoaxer 40 to 36.

    MUH BLUE WAVE.

  431. Tina says:

    liani
    ?
    @RudyGiuliani
    To John Brennan: Today President Trump granted our request (Jay Sekulow and me) to handle your case. After threatening if you don’t it would be just like Obama’s red lines. Come on John you’re not a blowhard?
    11:40 AM – Aug 20, 2018

  432. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    460. “Bannon tells AP he believes the GOP would lose 35-40 seats in the House if the election were held today.”

    We saw how good a strategist Bannon was at Charlottesville. Wasn’t he also a big Roy Moore supporter?

    That does not mean he is necessarily wrong, but do not find him a reliable prognosticator.

  433. Tina says:

    Transgendering Joe Scarfarce is again recycling the trump is crazy.

  434. Toast says:

    Where’s MrV.?

  435. NYCmike says:

    “Bannon tells AP he believes the GOP would lose 35-40 seats in the House if the election were held today.”

    -Robbie did the same thing with another person, some Republican pollster whose name escapes me right now…….Robbie “forgot” to say that Bannon, like the Republican pollster a couple of weeks ago, ALSO SAID THE REPUBLICANS COULD RETAIN THE HOUSE.

    ODD, isn’t it!?!?

    🙂

  436. NYCmike says:

    Rudy was a great Mayor! He loved the fight, which was terribly needed in NYC!

    NOW, he must be licking his chops to get a shot at Brennan!

  437. NYCmike says:

    “Where’s MrV.?”

    -Waiting for Mrs. W to whip up some warm waffles with watermelon and wine.

  438. lisab says:

    well, since the mean loss is -31 with a stddev of 25

    he is not exactly going out on a limb

  439. lisab says:

    that is a -.36 zscore

    in contrast trump winning had a 2.36 zscore

  440. Bitterlaw says:

    I reject all crude and vulgar posts. Except for GFY.

  441. mnw says:

    lisab

    I was told there would be no math. If I could do math, I coulda been a contendah!

  442. mnw says:

    McCaskill said in a radio interview today that she thought Trump campaigning for Hawley in MO “would probably help me, frankly.”

    Swear to God.

    She & our resident threadpig troll #1 ought to get married. They are both fools residing in “The Land of 10000 Illusions.”

  443. Bitterlaw says:

    I have seen the ending to the McCaskill movie.

    Hopefully, her career finally ends. She is the Michael Myers of Dems

  444. BayernFan says:

    App has removed all Drudge Report apps from the App Store.

    The app I downloaded doesn’t work anymore.

  445. mnw says:

    Speaking of marriages made in heaven, how ’bout troll three iiis & the blog pimp troll?

  446. lisab says:

    i’ll bet that manafort is found guilty of (rolls dice) half of the charges today

    based on a wild guess

  447. mnw says:

    lisab

    You could be right. Who knows? I don’t have a wild guess myself.

    It got my attention that the news reports yesterday said the jurors didn’t look at either side… or at each other… and seemed vaguely irritated.

  448. lisab says:

    mnw,

    my guess is that if it was a slam dunk one way or the other, they would be done by now

    so i’m guessing that they are split and will make a deal

  449. mnw says:

    lisab

    In my experience, “deals” are kind of uncommon. If a juror feels strongly, there’s usually no deal. Most holdouts are NG votes.

    I haven’t followed the trial in question closely, & I know almost nothing about the facts of that case. You know who the best verdict predictors are? The clerks & bailiffs, not the lawyers.

  450. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not know all of the charges so I don’t know if a deal could be made by the jurors.

    We shall see or not today. Or tomorrow. Or later.

  451. NYCmike says:

    The longer it takes, the more angst it causes Robbie.

  452. hugh says:

    I am hoping for jury nullification. This is a the right result for this trial.

  453. jason says:

    If a juror feels strongly, there’s usually no deal. Most holdouts are NG votes.”

    Not so sure. I was on a jury once in a traffic case. The guy was obviously guilty as hell but everyone else wanted to let him off on a really minor technicality.

    I made my case, it was still 11-1 so I voted to acquit. Everyone else was talking about how the police always wanted to screw everyone so we should just let him go, nobody was interested in the facts of the case.

    Of course a lot more is a stake here, I think the guy faced a year in jail if we had convicted him.

  454. hugh says:

    if there is a traffic case and the driver was not doing anything to put others safety at risk you did the right thing.

  455. Messy says:

    Apparently arguing the first amendment is invalid is not the best way to do prosecute a defamation suit. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45251255
    Duh!

    494. If it was jury nullification they’d have been done it already. They said it was only on one count.

  456. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – You should have held firm. That guy was probably so emboldened by the acquittal, he did it again. He has been causing death and destruction on the highway ever since.

  457. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/latin-american-conservative-blogger-facebook-suspended-and-doxed-me/

    -If this was the Cold War during the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s, Facebook would have been helping the Soviet Union and their satellite countries.

  458. hugh says:

    Actually Messy. It is very unclear what they are asking. I read it several times.

    Bitter. Why do you always have to be a glass half empty? Be happy!!

  459. Robbie says:

    So who does Mad King Don strip of his/her security clearance tomorrow to change the story?

    Jesse Rodriguez
    @JesseRodriguez

    NBC News: Michael Cohen to appear in New York federal court at 4pmET this afternoon

  460. phoenixrisen says:

    #502 Because he is seeing your concern posts on HHR and needed to hug his Eeyore doll and find a safe place.

  461. Robbie says:

    M – my
    A – attorney
    G – got
    A – arrested

    The Associated Press
    @AP

    BREAKING: AP sources: Michael Cohen to plead guilty in New York to charges including campaign finance and bank fraud, tax evasion.

  462. Robbie says:

    phoenixrisen says:
    August 21, 2018 at 2:43 pm
    #502 Because he is seeing your concern posts on HHR and needed to hug his Eeyore doll and find a safe place.

    – Concern? Hardly. I’m enjoying every minute of watching Mad King Don melt down.

  463. Todd McCain says:

    504. Who cares……

  464. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    We(and that includes Robbie and Messy) at HHR can agree on one thing. Drama Queen Susan Collins(R-ME) appears to be a YES vote on Brett Kavanaugh for SCOTUS pending any unusual revelations at his Sept. 4th confirmation hearing.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/senator-collins-trumps-court-pick-says-roe-vs-170941957.html

  465. Tgca says:

    Of course he copped a deal because if they got him on something with a longer jail time that’s what most people would do. The problem with copping a deal when you are convicted yourself goes to your credibility. In this case, the crimes he may have committed appear far greater than what they’re trying to get Trump on. That matters greatly to a jury and a good defense attorney will constantly point out and remind the jury of the integrity and lies of the convicted witness in hope of reducing a sentence.

    In addition, when a lawyer surreptitiously taped his clients and others in hopes of selling information in the future even questions their credibility more. As someone who is sat on the jury in the past and had to listen to witnesses with questionable credibility, it does not amount to much. I actually sat on the jury once where we would not convict based on the credibility of one of the witnesses even though we thought there was some truth to the charge.

  466. mnw says:

    Hi, Tg

    Good to see you out & about.

    For a non-lawyer, you write perfectly fine legal analysis!

  467. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    In the OH CD-12 race, the counting will end on Friday and the results will be certified.
    Balderson(R) has an almost 1900 vote lead with about 1,600 Franklin County(Columbus) remaining to be counted. Fortunately, his lead may be beyond the “margin of fraud”.

    “Ohio 12 update: In Richland County, which will vote to certify its results Thursday morning, Troy Balderson (R) gained 229 more votes through provisional and absentee votes. Danny O’Connor (D) gained 140. Balderson gained a net of 89 more votes than O’Connor.”

    So, a Balderson lead of 1,872

  468. NYCmike says:

    Robbie went to the “My Attorney Got Arrested” well again…….looks like the aquifers in Pogo Loco are drying up!

  469. Robbottie says:

    My

    Act’s

    Gotten

    Absurd

  470. Robbie says:

    Hint. The candidate is Trump. That means Trump was just implicated in a campaign finance law violation.

    Ryan Ruggiero
    @RyanRuggiero

    BREAKING: COHEN SAYS HE VIOLATED CAMPAIGN LAW AT DIRECTION OF CANDIDATE- BBG

  471. Messy says:

    Manafort will have a third trial after getting convicted on 8 out of 18 counts. He’s already going to spend the rest of his life in jail.

    Michael Cohen is pleading guilty to a bunch of stuff, including the Stormy Daniels NDA.

    With Elliot Broidy having been convicted of a felony previously, it means that The two deputy finance chairmen of the RNC between 2017 and this year were CRIMINALS.

    This also means that during the period between March and August 2016, the Trump campaign was run by CRIMINALS. (Manafort and Gates).

    These are facts.

  472. Robbie says:

    Yashar Ali
    @yashar

    NEWS: Cohen just described, in court, how he violated campaign finance laws by arranging payment for Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal. He said he violated federal law “in coordination with and at the direction of a federal candidate for office” Meaning Trump.

  473. Chicon says:

    Robbie is breathless in anticipation, just beside himself with hope. Will Lucy pull away the football at the last second once again?

  474. Waingro says:

    Gabriel Malor
    ? @gabrielmalor

    Gabriel Malor Retweeted Gabriel Malor

    Feelin’ pretty good about this thread from May right about now, and boy was Team MAGA pissed at the time –>

    Gabriel Malor added,
    Gabriel Malor
    @gabrielmalor
    Guys, a reimbursed unlawful campaign contribution is still an unlawful campaign contribution. As is failing to report a campaign contribution that is later reimbursed. https://twitter.com/brithume/status/991865171034431488
    Show this thread
    3:48 PM – 21 Aug 2018

    4 Retweets
    33 Likes
    Bullplop
    Mike Brown
    Katthekat
    Brown Folder Blog
    G. Scott Shand
    Curtis Kalin
    Trenton Sperry
    Anthony Abides
    Nando

    2 replies 4 retweets 33 likes
    Cory M Tweet text

    Gabriel Malor
    ? @gabrielmalor
    13m13 minutes ago

    Gabriel Malor Retweeted Gabriel Malor

    Ho hum, totally called that one –>

    Gabriel Malor added,
    Gabriel Malor
    @gabrielmalor
    Let me close with this thought. The one additional fact that puts Trump in certain legal jeopardy is if Michael Cohen testifies that he paid Stormy Daniels because Trump told him to help the campaign.…
    Show this thread
    5 replies 7 retweets 25 likes

  475. janz says:

    Robbie is delighted.

  476. Waingro says:

    Whoops. Sorry about the long copy/paste, but Gabe Malor is very credible federal constitutional appellate attorney and conservative. He suggests that the Cohen plea heavily implicates Trump towards federal campaign law violations.

  477. NYCmike says:

    Campaign finance rules – Robbie, is this the hill you want to be the king of?

    I would love to have a more libertarian view of campaign finance – if some jack*ss wants to spend money putting forth a message he/she believes will resonate, go for it! If the person who gets elected does not follow thru on their promises, they will be voted out the next time.

    Milton Friedman is smiling if we ever get to that point, where government is getting out of the way!

  478. NYCmike says:

    Collusion = campaign finance violations = impeachment.

    Robbie, is that about right?

  479. lisab says:

    well i said 9 out of 18, so i was close

    i think you can pretty much guarantee impeachment now if the dems taken the house

    i thought it was pretty much a sure thing anyway, but now … i think it is over 90% chance (if the dems win the house)

  480. lisab says:

    that damn ice deported a 90 year old …

    the dems are outraged

  481. Chicon says:

    So, an illegal immigrant charged with the murder of Mollie Tibbets. Wow.

  482. Tgca says:

    So Manafort guilty of tax and bank fraud on old transactions that have nothing to do with Trump campaign. Guilty by association? Ha!

    How does any of this tie to the charges of Russian collusion? How is any of this admissible in a case against the Trump campaign of Russian collusion?

  483. mnw says:

    Scott +6 over Nelson in new Tampa Tribune poll.

    DeSantis & the other dude all even in GOP FL GOV primary.

  484. Chicon says:

    Hello tgca, hope you’re well. The Cohen thing is more troubling for Trump, imo. Although I am curious why Mueller farmed it out if it affected the White House.

  485. Tgca says:

    Mnw 509

    I am doing fine and recuperating as expected. I still have about a year to work through rehabilitation and nerve damage regeneration but for the most part I am up and about. Just dealing with some side effects of the rehabilitation and medications but otherwise I’m trying to be somewhat physically active.

    For some reason, the doctors think skydiving, bungee jumping, running, kickboxing, tumbling, and gymnastics should not be part of my physical fitness routine. Go figure.

  486. Tgca says:

    I agree the Cohen issue is more of a direct affiliation but based on what he’s done, it seems odd that they are trying to get Trump on campaign filing violations when the Cohen crime allegations not related to campaign are much more egregious crimes so of course he will cop a deal and say anything they wish to hear. This looks suspect to jurors and Cohen’s credibility is shot at this point. Making the tapes were the worst thing he could IMO.

  487. Phil says:

    Nelson is in deep doo doo. He’s finally going down.

  488. dblaikie says:

    We are going have to endure the media going crazy the next 48 hours over nothing. Cohen is on record again and again that Trump knew nothing about the payoff to Stormy. And that now after a few months of arm twisting he says he lied about it. What a slimeball! Trump’s main offense is that he hired Cohen in the first place. If you choose to you can endure Lanny Davis opining wherever he can. I choose not to. Nothing to this.

  489. Tgca says:

    Also, I think no matter what the outcome of the Cohen and Manafort trials were, the Dems would have filed impeachment charges if they took the House. I just don’t think they could help themselves under any situation other than a full exoneration by Mueller which will never happen.

    I think history will look back at this time and realize that this was the beginning of recurring impeachment threats to future presidents going forward. Just like when Kennedy started Borking and started the extreme politicization of court nominees.

    The politicization of the process and the corruption of federal employees in order to damage presidents is now viewed as fair game going forward. That is sad.

  490. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    However this comes out, Trump certainly has surrounded himself with some really shady people. Cohen, Manafort, Bannon.

    Expect Romney to win with about 70% of the vote in Utah in November. Will see what happens after that.

  491. Tgca says:

    My only hope is that Trump bites the bullet and fires Sessions after the midterms. A lot of this corruption and politicization could have been exposed earlier and spared the American citizens of many of these hoax and one-sided investigations if we had a strong and competent AG.

    Where are the special prosecutors for all of the other corruption we are seeing within the FBI and the Obama administration? This is like expending all your law enforcement resources to go after somebody for jaywalking when your streets are littered with rapists. I feel like we’re in the Twilight Zone here.

  492. Chicon says:

    7.0 earthquake in Venezuela. Just what they need.

  493. Phil says:

    What? Coaches yelling obscenities during a college football practice? That’s never happens anywhere. Oh, the humanity!

  494. Tgca says:

    SDC

    Please don’t tell me you’re insinuating that Romney has the opportunity to win a presidential primary battle in 2020. Romney has already proven himself to be one of the weakest candidates ever, and that alone should disqualify him from future consideration.

    In addition, he proved himself to be a groveling snake with no principles after viciously mocking Trump but then begging for a job days after Trump won the presidency.

    I would never vote for Romney for POTUS under any circumstance because his spineless actions showed he will betray allegiances for a job just like he did when running for Gov of MA. And that would include compromising on judges and everything else the GOP supports if he were ever to be elected president which I don’t think will ever happen anyway.

    Besides, if he ever ran in primary against Trump, he would be ridiculed and destroyed to such a level that he would have no chance in a GE.

  495. Messy says:

    532. Started by Ted Kennedy with Bork? No….Started by Strom Thurmond with Abe Fortas 18 years earlier. Then there was Carswell and Haynseworth…

    525. There’s a second trial next month that’s all about collusion, collusion, collusion.

  496. lisab says:

    So Manafort guilty of tax and bank fraud on old transactions that have nothing to do with Trump campaign. Guilty by association? Ha!
    ——–

    so mr manafort … you can go to prison for 100 years

    or

    rat on trump and trump jr

  497. Robbie says:

    If Donald Trump was not the president, he would have been indicted along with Michael Cohen for their efforts to violate the campaign finance laws.

  498. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    August 21, 2018 at 4:58 pm
    Robbie is breathless in anticipation, just beside himself with hope. Will Lucy pull away the football at the last second once again?

    – I can smell the fear you have through the screen, chicon. Cohen pleaded guilty to violating the campaign finance laws at the direction of Trump. Rough moment for the alwaysTrumpers like you.

  499. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    August 21, 2018 at 5:06 pm
    Campaign finance rules – Robbie, is this the hill you want to be the king of?

    – Nothing better than NYCmike saying it’s ok for Mad King Don to violate laws that he deems to be no biggie.

    But muh rule of law. Lock her up, right?

  500. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    August 21, 2018 at 5:09 pm
    Collusion = campaign finance violations = impeachment.
    Robbie, is that about right?

    – I love watching you shrug your shoulders at Trump violating a federal law.

    Like I have said, Trumpism is a degenerative disease.

  501. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    August 21, 2018 at 5:45 pm
    We are going have to endure the media going crazy the next 48 hours over nothing. Cohen is on record again and again that Trump knew nothing about the payoff to Stormy. And that now after a few months of arm twisting he says he lied about it. What a slimeball! Trump’s main offense is that he hired Cohen in the first place. If you choose to you can endure Lanny Davis opining wherever he can. I choose not to. Nothing to this.

    – This is rally awesome stuff here. Trump’s main offense is he’s a lying liar who hired awful cretins who lie just like he does.

    Also, how many federal judges will Trump need to nominate to qualify as a redemptive act for violating federal law?

  502. Chicon says:

    541 – incorrect, little man, these things mean far less to me than to you. You are obsessed with hate, and it is a bad look. I mean, look at the hateful, non-Christian things you say to others here. You’ll be right about something one of these days, even if by accident; I hope it improves things for you.

  503. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 21, 2018 at 5:47 pm
    However this comes out, Trump certainly has surrounded himself with some really shady people. Cohen, Manafort, Bannon.
    Expect Romney to win with about 70% of the vote in Utah in November. Will see what happens after that.

    – Watch Romney. Watch Haley. With Trump mired in a widening scandal and the potential for a sizable election loss, both could have significant opportunities to challenge Trump in the primary. I don’t think Kasich has a chance and I think Pence, sadly, may be too close to the blast zone.

    If this situation gets worse and it likely will, Republicans in Congress may decide to tell Trump they won’t force him to resign if he publicly declares he will not run again in 2020.

  504. Chicon says:

    What is a “lying liar”? I mean, to an adult not having a regressive episode?

  505. Chicon says:

    546 – a classic! Someone save this one….

  506. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    August 21, 2018 at 6:20 pm
    541 – incorrect, little man, these things mean far less to me than to you.

    – This is the most honest thing you’ve ever written here. You don’t care how corrupt Trump is. You’re fine with anything he does, even if it’s illegal.

    Thanks for confirming what I’ve always suspected.

  507. Chicon says:

    549 – yep, that’s what I said..

    Did you miss the rest of the post, or is the ADD acting up again?

  508. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    August 21, 2018 at 6:23 pm
    546 – a classic! Someone save this one….

    – Go ahead and save it, Trump worshipper. I didn’t predict it WOULD happen. I said, if things continue to get worse, it MAY happen.

    I will say this, though. I sure as heck HOPE it happens. I desperately hope Trump doesn’t run again in 2020.

  509. Chicon says:

    Robbie, what are your thoughts on Mollie Tibbets being murdered by an illegal immigrant. Does it bother you?

  510. Robbie says:

    Chicon’s fear is palpable.

  511. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    August 21, 2018 at 6:29 pm
    Robbie, what are your thoughts on Mollie Tibbets being murdered by an illegal immigrant. Does it bother you?

    – Terrible news, but if you think that news “trumps” the president being implicated as directing his lawyer to commit a crime, then you’re nuts.

    Nice effort at deflection, though.

  512. Tina says:

    My timeline says Manafort was found guilty on tax issues.

    Nothing on collusion.

  513. Chicon says:

    Robbie, things are good today. The Cubs picked up Daniel Murphy from the Nationals, which will help their struggling offense.

    And I’m glad you get to have a happy news day – you seem to need it. Just don’t get too used to it..

  514. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    August 21, 2018 at 6:11 pm
    CA-50:Duncan Hunter and wife indicted by a grand jury. https://twitter.com/rickklein/status/1032026687406518273

  515. Waingro says:

    And now Duncan Hunter (and his wife) indicted. Yikes. What a crazy day. Any idea what the deadlines are in CA for getting on ballot?

  516. Tina says:

    Where is the federal election violation and how much was the fine?

  517. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #558
    It is too late to replace him. His name stays on the ballot even if he were to meet his demise.

  518. Tina says:

    @NolteNC
    1h
    We’ve gone from colluding with Russia to steal a presidential election to… A possible FEC violation that will be much smaller than the one Obama was found guilty of. Great job, Derp State.

    But, Muh Russia,

  519. lisab says:

    what should be apparent to all is that to robbie et al.

    it was not manafort that was convicted, it was trump

    and if you think it ends with trump, you are badly mistaken

    it wont ent until trump is gone, hopefully imprisoned with his son

    the tax cuts are rolled back, and taxes are increased

    and most especially, all illegal aliens are given citizenship AND borders are opened again, so nothing like this ever happens to the dems again

    and

    there will probably be some punishment for the middle class

    the dems are at political war with you, but you don’t want to believe it yet

  520. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    546. Haley is also a very good option. If the situation gets worse, I doubt that Trump will be running in 2020.

    As far as Hunter in San Diego, he might still get re-elected. It is a very Republican part of eastern San Diego County.

  521. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    562. lisab, Trump forced through some very good policies. If he leaves, it is important the Republicans find a replacement who can solidify them. Trump may have too much baggage now; a disruptive leader often needs to be replaced by a person who can institutionalized what was accomplished.

    What also could happen is the national debate could be less about Trump, and more about the success of his policies and continuing them.

  522. mnw says:

    SDC

    I don’t think Bannon belongs in that trio, no matter how much you may dislike or disagree with him.

    Manafort worked for Trump’s campaign for about 15 minutes before he got fired.

  523. mnw says:

    Chicon

    I wonder if threadpig troll #1 can “smell my fear” too? Illusions are the trolls’ daily bread.

    Surprised the Mets let go of Murphy, btw.

  524. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    565. mnw, Your probably right.

    Duncan Hunter can argue that he has the right to defend himself, and prove he is not guilty. Indictments prior to elections are suspicious.

  525. Tina says:

    Former Fec Chair says no campaign violation.

  526. Tina says:

    Mana fort worked far longer for Hillarys campaign managers brother, pedo, far longer.

  527. Chicon says:

    Mnw, Murphy is on the last year of his deal with the Nationals (who over payed him to leave the Mets). He’ll be a rental only. I suspect.

  528. dblaikie says:

    Robbie you are so predictable. Go ahead with delusions of smoking guns and all that. No one, or at least 98% of us don’t care about your silly illusions. Cohen is not a singer, based on his past statements, he is composing.

  529. dblaikie says:

    San Diego C, Yes Trump has surrounded himself with some real losers like Nikki Haley, General Kelly, General Maddis, Sec. Pompeo, and Larry Kudlow. And of course Obama had such paragons of virtue surrounding him like Susan Rice, Hillary Clinton, Eric Holder, and John Brennan. And of course don’t forget John Kerry who served in Viet Nam. I thought you had more intelligence than that. Spare me the thin thinking. Don’t stoup to Robbie’s level.

  530. Tina says:

    Section 8 of Cohen’s plea about violation of campaign finance is vague, when compared to the other sections.

    He under reported his income and got a fake loan, similar to Manafort.

  531. Bitterlaw says:

    Manafort convicted. Sucks for him. Does not implicate Trump.

  532. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    I lived thru 4 years of Carter, and 8 years of Obama.

    Campaign finance laws? The candidate will have to pay the fine for violating the law.

    IF it is Trump accepting million$ from foreign governments, then let’s talk about that serious sh*t.

  533. Tina says:

    Bl, your analysis for a couple of days ago or so was spot on.

  534. Tina says:

    From*

  535. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw may disagree but I think that being convicted on only 8 counts hurts Manafort on appeal. Hard to argue the jury did anything wrong, defense counsel was ineffective, etc.

  536. Tina says:

    A Lake Research poll for Democrat Hiral Tipirneni finds her down 49-40 in her rematch against GOP Rep. Debbie Lesko, who won this April’s #AZ08 special election just 52-48 dailykos.com/stories/2018/8… pic.twitter.com/2irPLTA7rQ
    10:12 AM – 20 Aug 2018

    Muh blue wave!

  537. Cash Cow TM says:

    4 and 1/2 inches of rain fell here in 45 minutes in the first rainstorm to hit here.

    An inch every 10 minutes.

    Neighbors yards (all situated lower than Walt’s abode) are lakes.
    Streams running through them, too.

    Now it is raining hard again.
    Walt can stay here.

    I am ready to bail.

  538. mnw says:

    BL 578

    I’m not shy, but I just don’t know enough about the case to have anything useful to say about the appeal.

    But for having to write appellate briefs, I might have hung on another year or two.

  539. lisab says:

    Trump may have too much baggage now; a disruptive leader often needs to be replaced by a person who can institutionalized what was accomplished.
    ———–

    nah …

    you live and die with trump

    if he goes you lose his base

    and congress

    and the illegals become citizens and the gop is over as a party

    you could not overcome 20 million new voters for welfare

  540. NYCmike says:

    Trump is NOT disruptive.

    The media is disgustingly biased.

    Every day he is President and Hillary (and any other Democrat) is not, all of us should be thankful. Everything that is going on now, with finding out about unmaskings, FISA warrants, FBI/CIA/DOJ malfeasance, leaking and political bias, NONE of that would have surfaced if Hillary had won, and this nation would have paid a much higher price in the futuredue to that corruption.

    I’ll gladly have a Robbie hyperventilating about an alleged campaign finance issue instead of Obama drawing red lines!

  541. Jody Beaumont says:

    Zippedy do dah!

  542. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Duncan Hunter’s opponent does not have a very compelling background. He claims to be a small business man, and:

    “Hunter was clearly favored against Democratic nominee Ammar Campa-Najjar who is the grandson of one of the Munich Olympic Terrorist,”

    The strongest Democratic candidate against Hunter would have been Josh Butner, a former NAVT Seal, but he lost in the Democratic primary to the more leftist Campa-Najjar.

    In both the California 49th and 50th district, the Democrats choose weak candidates; which gives the Republicans a good shot of holding both.

  543. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    In referring to Trump as disruptive, I was actually speaking positively of him. Poster wvalley in May 2017 spoke about the benefit of Trump’s disruptive nature:

    wvally says

    “Take 10 steps back from the controversies of the day, and ask yourself: over the long term, will Trump have done more damage to the left or the right?
    Prior to the election many Rs were worried he would destroy the Republican Party. I don’t think so. He’s not a conservative and everyone knows he’s at odds with the R establishment.
    What Trump has been most successful at is truly exposing the collusion between MSM and the left. And the fact that the media fabricates and lies. It’s now widely accepted. After he’s long gone their reputation is still ruined.
    Smart, politically adept Rs of the future should be able to use this to their advantage and not be as cowed by media and political correctness as Rs of the past.
    What is frustrating for many, I think, is that it is so obvious the media credibility has been destroyed, and if Trump weren’t such a nut he could be capitalizing on it “bigly”.
    But if he weren’t such a nut he wouldn’t have had the balls to challenge them so boldly in the first place.
    I’m grateful for the judges, and interruption of forward progress of leftist agenda the federal government. I’m sanguine about the day to day.”

    Trump has stopped the leftist agenda in its tracks; which could only be done by some who is something of a “wild man.” The problem is there is going to be a point Americans get tired of the constant drama, and issues involving those formerly close to him. It doesn’t have a long shelf life.

    The benefits of Trump’s disrupting the former status quo need to be made permanent, and become the foundation of the Republican Party; and it is going to take individuals more steady and less volatile than Trump.

  544. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump’s base are not all Republicans. Some are leaving when Trump leaves office.

  545. mnw says:

    BL 588

    Agreed– NOT Republicans.

    And they’re not showing up for the midterms, either, unless GOP candidates start talking about issues that motivated them to switch from Obama to Trump in ’16.

  546. Bitterlaw says:

    Good point, mnw. However, there is no Trump ideology. It is his personality that brought in many of his supporters. Does the GOP have to become more protectionist and more AFL-CIO loving than the Democrats to hold them?

  547. Todd McCain says:

    Wow; what a terrible day for the WH; thank god this happened in August and not October…..

  548. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Lanny Davis, Clinton lawyer hack and Michael Cohen’s attorney, is all over the place announcing the formation of a $500,000 Go Fund Me Account for Michael Cohen. (So far, $10,000 has been committed to the fund.) He wants to get paid, I guess.
    As a derivative to a quote from the movie, “Casablanca”, “Of all the lawyers in all the world, why did Michael Cohen retain a Democrat hack like Lanny Davis to defend him?”

    Also, how long before some enterprising Liberal like Messy starts a Go Fund Me Account for Mollie Tibbets’ illegal alien murderer?

  549. hugh says:

    Did anyone think it likely Manafort would walk? I didn’t. I had hoped perhaps the jury would be hung on all counts only due to political views of some of the jurors, but I was not optimistic. So what has changed…Nothing. It is painful to watch the media gloat, so I am not watching news for a few days.

  550. Chicon says:

    Bitter, there’s immigration, too. Polled as the number 1 issue, iirc (note, not my #1 issue). But the people who care about it don’t believe their congressman does. On protectionism, would it kill Republican candidates to talk to people how to keep jobs in the USA? Such as through deregulation and better tax policy? Sell them on your conservative ideas….TALK TO THEM as if their vote matters.

  551. Tina says:

    The gop needs to act like conservatives.

    Not big spenders, amnesty idiots.

  552. Tina says:

    https://nypost.com/2018/08/21/cohen-willing-to-tell-mueller-about-conspiracy-to-collude-lawyer/

    Yup, Cohen will now spill. Why did he plea without spilling?

    Counts 7 and 8 are weak, count 8 being the weakest.

    Cohen was not part of the campaign and the former Fec chairman says it was not a contribution,

    If it were, it’s a fine,

  553. mnw says:

    I think that to motivate the Obama/Trump voters to vote in the midterms, the GOP candidates must emphasize:

    1) Border security, to include the DEM “abolish ICE’ business.

    2) Trade, with the emphasis on American jobs coming back now.

    3) Impeachment/Pelosi/2nd Amend issues.

    I know I repeat myself a lot, but Balderson (R) was clearly going to lose in OH-12– until Trump saved him at one minute to midnight. Balderson apparently listened to GOP consultants who told him to be low profile & uncontroversial; & to emphasize plain vanilla issues where 80% of all voters favored his position– i.e.m education funding & suppressing opioi d prescription abuse. THAT WON’T WORK!

    This is a year where GOP candidates are going to have to grow a pair.

  554. Tina says:

    Nov 14
    Is it legal under current law for a Presidential campaign (Hillary) to hide its funding of the compilation/dissemination of political dirt (Fusion GPS/Dossier) on its opponent (Trump) by using a law firm (Perkins Coie) to directly pay for work? #SessionsHearing pic.twitter.com/cjvRD9jrmL
    View

  555. Tina says:

    hort
    @PoliticalShort
    2h
    In a letter to the Florida election officials late Monday, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristjen Nielsen and FBI director Christopher Wray stated that no election system in Florida has been hacked. Someone inform @SenBillNelson. orlandosentinel.com/news/politics/…
    View summary ·

  556. Tina says:

    5m
    Mark Levin: ‘Donald Trump Is in the Clear’ — ‘Lanny Davis Blew It,’ ‘You Are a Dummy, Lanny’ breitbart.com/video/2018/08/… via @BreitbartNews
    View summary ·

    You are a dummy, Lanny.

  557. Tina says:

    3h
    DOJ Logic: “It was criminal for Trump’s lawyer to hide a single payment to Stormy Daniels, but perfectly fine for Hillary‘s lawyer to hide multiple payments to Fusion GPS.” The fix has always been in.
    View

    Yup!

  558. Tina says:

    If anyone is looking for a good lawyer, I would strongly suggest that you don’t retain the services of Michael Cohen!

    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) August 22, 2018

  559. Chicon says:

    If Cohen’s campaign financing deal were so significant that it could lead to possible impeachment of Trump (as Robbie/MSM hope and pray);why would he farm out the case, while keeping the Manafort case?

  560. Messy says:

    578…plus Manafort’s lawyer thanked the judge for holding an extremely fair trial.

    540. If Comey had not sent his notorious letter about Hillary to congress and Trump had lost, no one would care but they might have gotten Cohen on the Taxi stuff anyway.

    592. Why the heck would I do that? I’ve long been against murderers and their immigration status has nothing to do with it…Apparently, Lanny Davis didn’t talk to the Feds about the plea deal until late last week. They wouldn’t talk to him until they got enough corroboration to nail his ass to the wall first.

    582…and Yellowstone will erupt catastrophically while the Canadians invade Hawaii…

    589. Comey’s leaked letter to congress two weeks before the election. People began thinking “The Republicans will never stop!!!!” Had Comey not done what he did. President Hillary would have a Democratic congress.

  561. Tina says:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlMFVQHWwAEOwNR.jpg:small

    Burr says Cohen stands by his initial congressional testimony.

    Cohen admits that he was not aware of the trump tower meeting,

  562. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    16m
    Michael Cohen plead guilty to two counts of campaign finance violations that are not a crime. President Obama had a big campaign finance violation and it was easily settled!
    View

  563. dblaikie says:

    I can’t believe the double standard that is going on today. First of all, the only proven thing that Trump shouldn’t have done was hire Micheal Cohen. Yet maybe most “fixers” are by definition sleazy. But to give this proven perjurer any credibility is ridiculous. I wish that the press, the guardians of unbiased journalism, had given us much credibility to the women who were abused by Bill Clinton and terrorized by Hilary. That is the first double standard.

    But the second is even better! Since when has a campaign violation been more than traffic ticket to now become a high crime and misdemeanor? Now please understand I am not saying that Trump is guilty of this “high crime” but that is what all the talking heads are droning about. Yet no one said a thing in 2008 when the Obama campaign was fined $350000.00 for campaign finance violations. Heck even Bob Dole was fined $100000.00 for violations in his campaign. What a pile of garbage that is going on today.

  564. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Rasmussen(less) has its weekly Generic Congressional Ballot at 44/44.
    Monmouth College GCB is D+5.
    Economist/ YouGov GCB is D+6.

  565. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Polls show Trump has the support of almost 90% of Republicans, and so the party’s position needs to reflect Trump’s policies. If and when Trump leaves the scene, expect a successor to arise who reflects his views. The Bush old guard establishment is not ever coming back. Haley might be a good fit.

  566. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It there was ever a detestable human being, it has to be Cohen. Cowardly and with no sense of legal ethics; not to mention no loyalty to his client. Recording his client conversations without his permission; and since he was handling a sensitive matter, maybe he should have secured and encrypted his client’s sensitive information.

  567. Chicon says:

    Speaking of Cohen…how are they able to use his communications with Trump – his client – against Trump? What about attorney-client privilege?

  568. Messy says:

    602. Tina, why did Trump HIRE HIM then?

    596. Because the SNY didn’t NEED his testimony. They didn’t even contact his lawyer until late last week.

    608. Last week Ras had the Democrats at +8.

    606. If they were not crimes, why did he plead guilty to them?

    610. yeah, Cohen is a scumbag, but that’s why he was hired. Had not Trump’s other lawyer given Cy Vance a $32K brib…er…campaign contribution, Ivanka and Don Jr. would be in the pokey right now. https://therealdeal.com/2017/10/05/manhattan-da-quietly-returned-trump-attorneys-32000-campaign-donation-as-journalists-asked-about-closed-trump-soho-investigation/

  569. Tina says:

    You do realize that Scumbag Cohen testified before burrs senate committee?

    He said there was nothing incriminating about trump tower meeting.

    Lanny Davis also just informed Burr and Warner of the same.

  570. Tina says:

    If they were not crimes.

    They are not crimes.

    If they are, they are fines against the campaign.

    Former Fec chairperson indicates they are not

    See Obama 2008 as an example.

  571. Robbie says:

    Remember this, Trumpaloos. Yesterday was the worst day of Trump’s presidency SO FAR. It will only get worse. There is no bottom with Trump.

  572. Robbie says:

    Sunday – Rudy says truth isn’t truth

    Wednesday – Cohen pleaded guilty to a crime that’s not a crime

    The world of distortion and lying in which the Trumpaloos marinate is really something even Orwell couldn’t have imagined.

  573. Robbie says:

    What’s so awesome about this tweet is Trump’s defenders have given up arguing he’s done nothing wrong. They’re just admitting the office of the presidency is shielding Trump from criminal charges.

    I doubt the founders ever anticipated such a thing would happen or that the majority party would simply shrug their shoulders at possible criminality.

    John Roberts
    @johnrobertsFox

    Source close to @realDonaldTrump tells Fox News “remember, the President cannot be indicted.”

  574. Tina says:

    Is there such a crime for influencing an election?

    Does Hillary paying for a dossier count?

  575. Phil says:

    ….and here he is right on schedule.

  576. Tina says:

    Yeah, you cannot indict a president

    Doj guidelines say so.

    Faux News needs to catch up.

  577. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    August 21, 2018 at 7:59 pm
    Robbie you are so predictable. Go ahead with delusions of smoking guns and all that. No one, or at least 98% of us don’t care about your silly illusions. Cohen is not a singer, based on his past statements, he is composing.

    – LOL! It sounds like dblaikie has been listening to Alan Dershowitz spew his nonsense on FoxNews and CNN about singing vs. composing.

    Still trying to figure out how many judges you think Trump needs to nominate in order to count as a redemptive act for his Cohen mess.

  578. Tina says:

    Did the Fec determine its a crime?

    If so, isn’t there a corresponding fine?

  579. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    August 21, 2018 at 8:28 pm
    Robbie,
    I lived thru 4 years of Carter, and 8 years of Obama.
    Campaign finance laws? The candidate will have to pay the fine for violating the law.
    IF it is Trump accepting million$ from foreign governments, then let’s talk about that serious sh*t.

    – NYCmike resorts to his comfy cozy safe space of “whataboutism”. Better than “but muh Antifa” that he used after Trump said there were good people on both sides at Charlottesville last year.

    Also, the laws only matter if the president has a D after his name. Got it.

  580. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    August 21, 2018 at 10:57 pm
    Trump is NOT disruptive.
    The media is disgustingly biased.
    Every day he is President and Hillary (and any other Democrat) is not, all of us should be thankful. Everything that is going on now, with finding out about unmaskings, FISA warrants, FBI/CIA/DOJ malfeasance, leaking and political bias, NONE of that would have surfaced if Hillary had won, and this nation would have paid a much higher price in the futuredue to that corruption.
    I’ll gladly have a Robbie hyperventilating about an alleged campaign finance issue instead of Obama drawing red lines!

    – But muh media!

  581. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    August 22, 2018 at 9:06 am
    5m
    Mark Levin: ‘Donald Trump Is in the Clear’ — ‘Lanny Davis Blew It,’ ‘You Are a Dummy, Lanny’ breitbart.com/video/2018/08/… via @BreitbartNews
    View summary

    – Well, I was leaning the other way, but Mark Levin’s yelling insanity changed my mind.

  582. Tina says:

    How come nobody is raiding fusion gps and Hillary for influencing an election.

    Lol, is there a federal statute for that?

    I nought all candidates try to do that,

    This is a joke.

  583. Tina says:

    Doj under sessions asks for no jail time for Awan, who committed mortgage fraud and other crimes.

    Buh bye sessions and Redactstein.

  584. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    August 22, 2018 at 9:14 am
    If Cohen’s campaign financing deal were so significant that it could lead to possible impeachment of Trump (as Robbie/MSM hope and pray);why would he farm out the case, while keeping the Manafort case?

    – Couple of things. First, I don’t think this will lead to impeachment because Trump has castrated Republicans and they will not turn on him. They are scared of him and his base.

    Second, Mueller’s mandate as laid out in a DOJ memo was investigate any Trump campaign collusion with Russia, Paul Manafort’s money crimes, and any crimes that arose from the investigation.

    Mueller handed off the Cohen matter because it didn’t deal with his core mission and he figured critics like you would claim he was on a fishing expedition.

  585. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    August 22, 2018 at 10:03 am
    I can’t believe the double standard that is going on today. First of all, the only proven thing that Trump shouldn’t have done was hire Micheal Cohen. Yet maybe most “fixers” are by definition sleazy. But to give this proven perjurer any credibility is ridiculous.

    – A proven perjurer? In what court or legal setting did Cohen deny the charges he pleaded guilty to yesterday? None.

    Cohen did, however, lie repeatedly to the press and the American people. And as I have been repeatedly told by Trump supporters, it’s not illegal to lie to the press or the country.

  586. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    August 22, 2018 at 10:58 am
    Speaking of Cohen…how are they able to use his communications with Trump – his client – against Trump? What about attorney-client privilege?

    – The work has to be deemed to be legal work to fall under attorney client privilege and the crime fraud exception.

  587. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 22, 2018 at 11:40 am
    ….and here he is right on schedule.

    – And here you are right on schedule to defend Trump or chastise anyone who dares speak against Mad King Don.

    If this was story about Obama and his personal attorney, you’d be losing your mind. But since it’s Trump, meh.

  588. mnw says:

    RAS GCB dead even for first time since May!

    BRH (Blue Raisin Ho’s) is having indigestion.

  589. dblaikie says:

    I became convinced a long time ago that Robbie is the miracle reincarnation of a fictional character — Wormtongue.

  590. dblaikie says:

    Boy the Senate Democrats are desperate about Kavanaugh.

  591. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    August 22, 2018 at 12:19 pm
    I became convinced a long time ago that Robbie is the miracle reincarnation of a fictional character — Wormtongue.

    – And I’ve become convinced your Christian values and how you apply them to political figures depends on whether they have a R or D after their names.

  592. Robbie says:

    While I’ve repeatedly said I don’t believe there is a n-word tape, I genuinely hope there is one for two reasons.

    First, a tape of Trump referring to blacks as the n-word would end his disgraceful presidency.

    Second, nothing would give me a better laugh than watching Trump supporters say it didn’t matter since he said it before he became president.

  593. Tina says:

    Reuters has gcb down to 3

    Pretty clear slippage by the drats

  594. Tina says:

    I so much want impeachment and an n word tape.

    Jebot

  595. dblaikie says:

    And you wonder why I think that you are Wormtongue? Let’s see, starting regulatory relief for Religion, appointing Justices who are strict constructionists, moving the Embassy to Jerusalem, well Wormtongue if a Democrat supported those policies I would gladly vote for that person.

    Yes, I know that Trump was a playboy. I suppose there have been lots of women. Heck there could have been more payoffs over the last 30 years. I am sure that Marla Maples and Ivanka could tell lots of racy stories. But as long as he doesn’t let an intern copulate with him in the Oval Office — yes I will take the long view. I didn’t vote to ordain him, but with the belief that polices would be implemented that I have long advocated.

    Now go ahead and cut my faith and beliefs of which you are completely ignorant.

  596. GPO says:

    After all these years, How or why does anyone still respond to the troll

  597. mnw says:

    GPO 641

    I’ve been making that same point myself, over & over. The posters who feed trolls have only themselves to blame.

  598. Chicon says:

    629 – yesterday Robbie tells us the Republicans will abandon Trump; they will primary him and promise not to throw him out of office.

    Today, the Republicans have been castrated by Trump and they won’t turn on him. Pick a lane. Try to keep your story consistent.

  599. Robbottie says:

    Your logic means nothing Chicon. Who do you think you are stepping out of the shadows? I’ve been here since 1895 demanding Republican Presidents and Candidates be ousted with brokered conventions and impeachment.

  600. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Sessions will not recuse himself from the Cohen matter.

  601. Phil says:

    So, we have Robbie showing up to totally proclaim that this time they REALLY have Trump. Yep, the magic silver bullet FINALLY. How many silver bullets have you and your MSM pals been orgasmic over the last two years, Robbie? Ten? Twenty? But yeah, this time it’s really, really, really, really the one…..until it isn’t – but not to worry. The Democrats and your Never Trumper pals will uncover another one in short order. You always do….and it will really, really, really be the one. It always is.

    Same movie over and over and over…..

  602. Tina says:

    Fake Indian

    Huge gaffe

    Asked about Mollie Tibbetts being murdered by an illegal immigrant, Elizabeth Warren says “I know this is hard” for her family, but they “have to remember” that we need to focus on “real problems” like illegal immigrants not being able to see to their kids https://t.co/RLLKw9ezGx

  603. dblaikie says:

    641 Because it is fun.

  604. Tina says:

    Sean Davis retweeted
    MULawPoll MULawPoll
    @MULawPoll
    39m
    In US Senate race in WI, Marquette Law School Poll finds 49% of likely voters support Democrat Tammy Baldwin, 47% support Republican Leah Vukmir. #mulawpoll
    View

    New wi poll.

  605. Tina says:

    1h
    Lanny Davis, on Fox News earlier, asked people to donate at michaelcohentruth.com. Seems like someone else, though, purchased that domain and re-directed it to Trump’s campaign site…
    View summary ·

    Too funny, poor lannny

  606. Tina says:

    https://news.gallup.com/poll/241124/favor-diplomacy-sanctions-russia.aspx

    The socialist and fake Rs must not be happy with this poll.

  607. Phil says:

    Yeah, Megan says they now have 20K in Lanny’s Save Michael Cohen fund. There you go, Robbie. Give til it hurts.

  608. Waingro says:

    #650, same poll has Walker tied at 46% with likely voters. not great, but much better than some other polls showed.

  609. Tina says:

    https://trib.al/j1Uwy3P

    Cohen is like comrade.

    It is all about the Helsinki summit.

    Lanny slipped up.

    Keep yapping lannny.

    More Lanny

  610. Tina says:

    thanks wain.

  611. Tina says:

    Fake Indian just made a Dukakis 2.0 statement.

  612. Phil says:

    Worse than anything that ever came out of Dukakis’s mouth, Tina, and I didn’t think that was even possible.

  613. Tina says:

    Yeah worse Phil.

    I cannot believe it.

  614. Tina says:

    According to Barris, the raw gcb is the first likely voter screen.

  615. Messy says:

    618. Did Hillary READ The dossier before the election? The dossier was given first to the FBI and was told that the Democrats paid for some of it (some right-wing republicans paid for it too).

    Opposition Research is to find FACTS.

  616. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Is Robert Menendez(D) in trouble in the 2018 New Jersey Senate race? A new Quinnipiac Poll says YES!
    Will NJ Democrats pull a “Torricelli” soon and replace Mr. Menendez?

    https://poll.qu.edu/new-jersey/release-detail?ReleaseID=2563

  617. Redmen4ever says:

    Marquette Law School Poll: not totally surprising. R numbers are depressed during contested primaries. Expect similar thing to happen in Florida Governor and Arizona Senate following their primaries.

  618. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Can the Republicans grab the old Al Franken Democrat Senate seat in the 2018 Minnesota Senate race? This new Suffolk Poll is encouraging. Karin Housely(R) is a great candidate. She is down by seven, but trending upward.

    https://www.suffolk.edu/documents/SUPRC/8_22_2018_marginals.pdf

  619. Tina says:

    Emerald Robinson Emerald Robinson
    @EmeraldRobinson
    2h
    Gregory Craig, a lawyer for John Edwards & Bill Clinton: “The govt’s theory is wrong on the facts & wrong on the law. There is no civil or criminal precedent for such a prosecution.” That’s lawyer-talk for “ain’t gonna happen.” thehill.com/opinion/white-…
    View summary ·

  620. Messy says:

    629. There will be NO impeachment this year. The Republicans running the judiciary committee are too much in Donnie’s pocket for that.

    While there’ve been plenty of calls for the impeachment of every single president going back to Washington, there have only been six that have been actually voted on seriously:

    Tyler in 1843
    Andrew Johnson in 1867 and ’68
    Nixon in 1974 (four artlices were voted out of committee) and…
    Clinton in 1998.

    Of these, ALL of them followed investigations and hearings, followed by votes on articles by the Judiciary committee. This included the Tyler attempt. In the 20th century, Nixon’s had nine months of hearings and other investigations, and Clinton’s had only a week’s worth, but then the Starr investigation lasted years before it found something (Lewinsky) and the HJC relied on that.

    So assuming the Democrats win back the House in November, You’d probably have televised hearings in the Judiciary committee for the first third of the year, followed by a vote on articles sometime in late March.

    Then you will have the debate in the House. This will last a couple of days as everyone in the House will want to talk. Should it pass (and if it gets out of committee, then it will on the floor), and then we get to the Senate.

    For presidents, there’s going to be a grand trial. I’d love to see Rudy in the well of the Senate giving a loopy speech. it might happen, but not for many months.

  621. Messy says:

    …erm…Tyler in the 19th. typo.

  622. Tina says:

    Did Lanny inform the hem Kelly’s audience that he paid $7 million for his new apartment last mo. All cash.

  623. mnw says:

    Sheep, DW, Chicon, Wes & everyone:

    I thought this was funny & might be of interest:

    RRH very publicly & noisily BANNED a poster yesterday. Here was the exchange (going from memory):

    poster: “Most of the so-called ‘Republicans’ here are frauds. The majority are Democrats and the rest are almost all NeverTrumpers. You ought to change your blog name, because all you do is preach GOP doom and gloom and provide biased, leftwing analysis. By my count, there are only about 4 real Republicans at RRH.”

    Shamlet; “YOU ARE WARNED! THIS SORT OF POST IS NOT USEFUL & WILL NOT BE PERMITTED! DO THIS AGAIN, & YOU WILL BE BANNED.”

    poster: “F you, you arrogant, obnoxious prick.”

    Shamlet: “OK. YOU ARE BANNED! And don’t try to re-register under a different URL, either.”

    What a delightful, tolerant group of guys, huh?

  624. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It should be remembered that Clinton had some of his highest approval ratings during the time he was being impeached. It backfired on the Republicans in a lot of ways. An attempt to impeach Trump could rally his supporters, and boost his chances of re-election.

    A CNBC News Poll showed Trump had a 51%-36% approval rating for his economic policies. His approval in the poll was 41%-47%.

  625. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Is there really going to be much of a difference in the attacks on Trump during an impeachment hearing than the vitriol that is thrown at him now? Recently a Florida Congressman wished him dead.

    Opposing impeachment can be a campaign issue that Republicans can use in November against Democratic Senators in North Dakota, Indiana, Montana, Missouri and West Virginia; states where Trump is popular.

  626. Chicon says:

    669 – nice joint. They remind me of our resident Catholic, Robbie. The anger some display is really unbecoming.

  627. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    August 22, 2018 at 1:04 pm
    And you wonder why I think that you are Wormtongue? Let’s see, starting regulatory relief for Religion, appointing Justices who are strict constructionists, moving the Embassy to Jerusalem, well Wormtongue if a Democrat supported those policies I would gladly vote for that person.

    – All of which you could have gotten from Mike Pence or any other Republican, but you’ve decided to make a Faustian bargain with Trump and contort religious views to justify it.

  628. Robbie says:

    GPO says:
    August 22, 2018 at 1:11 pm
    After all these years, How or why does anyone still respond to the troll

    – After all these years, why anyone still respond to the frauds?

  629. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    August 22, 2018 at 1:15 pm
    GPO 641
    I’ve been making that same point myself, over & over. The posters who feed trolls have only themselves to blame.

    – And I’ve been making this point about you. You disappeared for years and then showed back up as populist Trump troll yet you attack others who don’t share your views as trolls

  630. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 22, 2018 at 1:57 pm
    So, we have Robbie showing up to totally proclaim that this time they REALLY have Trump. Yep, the magic silver bullet FINALLY. How many silver bullets have you and your MSM pals been orgasmic over the last two years, Robbie? Ten? Twenty? But yeah, this time it’s really, really, really, really the one…..until it isn’t – but not to worry. The Democrats and your Never Trumper pals will uncover another one in short order. You always do….and it will really, really, really be the one. It always is.

    – Really have Trump? Silver bullet? Hardly. In fact, I said this won’t lead to his impeachment because I know the Republicans have been castrated by Trump and they live in fear of his low information, mouth breathing base that treats Sean Hannity and FoxNews like some sort of oracle.

    That said, I’m surprised you’re willing to shrug your shoulders about Trump’s scumbag nature and the fact he was named in a guilty plea agreement as having directed his personal lawyer to make illegal campaign donations to a porn star and a Playmate? If Obama had done something like this, you, rightfully, would have lost your mind.

  631. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    August 22, 2018 at 2:02 pm
    641 Because it is fun.

    – I agree. It’s fun poking holes in your view about redemptive acts and what qualifies as redemptive acts. That’s especially true when there’s not a shred of evidence of contrition by the person who you claim is offering redemptive acts. Also, I doubt God views political appointments who may favor your views (mine as well) on abortion as redemptive acts.

  632. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    August 22, 2018 at 2:55 pm
    Is Robert Menendez(D) in trouble in the 2018 New Jersey Senate race? A new Quinnipiac Poll says YES!
    Will NJ Democrats pull a “Torricelli” soon and replace Mr. Menendez?
    https://poll.qu.edu/new-jersey/release-detail?ReleaseID=2563

    – I remember polls in July and August of 2006 that suggested Menendez was in trouble in his race with Tom Kean Jr. It was strong year, though, for Democrats and he won with ease. Suspect it will be the same case in 2018.

  633. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    August 22, 2018 at 5:13 pm
    669 – nice joint. They remind me of our resident Catholic, Robbie. The anger some display is really unbecoming.

    – Whereas your Trump shilling reminds me of those who show up at Trump’s rallies and still chant “lock her up” on the very day Trump’s former campaign chairman was found guilty of felony crimes and Trump’s former personal attorney pleaded guilty to felonies.

    By the way, I totally believe you lurked here for 12 years before suddenly starting to post as soon as Trump won in 2016.

    Also, I can still smell your fear through screen. You’re worried about your man and it shows.

  634. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 22, 2018 at 4:43 pm
    It should be remembered that Clinton had some of his highest approval ratings during the time he was being impeached. It backfired on the Republicans in a lot of ways. An attempt to impeach Trump could rally his supporters, and boost his chances of re-election.

    – While there are plenty of similarities between Clinton and Trump (both are scumbags and crooks), the political environment that existed in 1998 is vastly different from the one that exists today.

    First, the country is far more polarized now. Trump’s standing in the polls shows that. No matter what happens, his approval remains right around 40% and his disapproval remains right around 55%. On top of that, the substantial rural/urban divide did not exist in 1998 and moderate Southern Democrats also still existed.

    Most importantly, Clinton had long been a fairly popular president. After a horrible start in 1993, Clinton spent the vast majority of his presidency at or above 50% (according to 538). Even after his approval rating had dipped around the 1994 elections, his approval rating was back above 50% by the winter of 1995 and stayed there for the rest of his presidency.

    Clinton, despite the best efforts of Republicans, had a reservoir of support among the public in 1998 and it shielded him from impeachment. That and the great economy as well. Trump has a great economy, but he does not have a reservoir of good will built up to shield him.

    I doubt campaigning on impeachment will have much of an effect either way. I think “Trump fatigue” will be a bigger issue to the voters than impeachment.

  635. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    679. Just curious Robbie, where is the Russian collusion that Mueller was investigating? Neither the Manafort or Cohen cases involved Russian collusion.

    It seems the focus now is on the sexual affairs of Trump. Giuliani might not be the right person to address these issues. Maybe Trump should replace him with Hillary Clinton; she was very aggressive and nasty in attempting covering up Bill Clinton’s sexual follies.

  636. Phil says:

    676

    No, Robbie. The problem is You immediately and automatically just accept what Cohen says as fact, no questions asked just like you lap up everything the MSM says about Trump – again, no questions asked. Cohen? Really? Suddenly the man has credibility? Based on what exactly?Anyway, as I said send your donations to Lanny’s save his poor client fund.

    Hey, I’m STILL waiting for one shred of evidence of “Russian Collusion”. Isn’t that what this was supposed to be all about?Going on 18 months now. Still waiting. Cohen my ass.

  637. Robbie says:

    The Trump effect. If Trump favors something, the voters don’t like it. If Trump dislikes something, the voters support it.

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram

    New Fox poll shows people view Obamacare more favorably than GOP tax law. Dems hold better approval rating than GOPers.

  638. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 22, 2018 at 6:07 pm
    679. Just curious Robbie, where is the Russian collusion that Mueller was investigating? Neither the Manafort or Cohen cases involved Russian collusion.
    It seems the focus now is on the sexual affairs of Trump. Giuliani might not be the right person to address these issues. Maybe Trump should replace him with Hillary Clinton; she was very aggressive and nasty in attempting covering up Bill Clinton’s sexual follies.

    – Simple answer to your first question. Trump is so corrupt he has multiple investigations about him taking place.

  639. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Wisconsin looking more favorable for the Republicans:

    Marquette Poll

    Senate
    Baldwin 49 Vukmir 47

    Governor
    Walker 46 Evers 46

    “Despite the heavier recent election turnout among Democrats, the polling also said 69 percent of Republicans are enthused about voting in November — which is 2 points more than Democrats who said they were.”

  640. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 22, 2018 at 6:10 pm
    676
    No, Robbie. The problem is You immediately and automatically just accept what Cohen says as fact, no questions asked just like you lap up everything the MSM says about Trump – again, no questions asked. Cohen? Really? Suddenly the man has credibility? Based on what exactly?Anyway, as I said send your donations to Lanny’s save his poor client fund.
    Hey, I’m STILL waiting for one shred of evidence of “Russian Collusion”. Isn’t that what this was supposed to be all about?Going on 18 months now. Still waiting. Cohen my ass.

    – You’re correct, Phil. I do take accept what Cohen pleaded guilty to in a court of law under threat of perjury. As dumb as Cohen clearly is, the idea he would knowingly plead guilty to things he did not do and risk far worse consequences is incomprehensible, even for a Trump associate.

    As for collusion, the Trump Tower meeting. I know it’s an inconvenient fact, but Donnie Jr. went into that meeting expecting dirt on Hillary provided by the Russian government. To quote him, he said “If it’s what you say, I love it.”

    The fact Donnie Jr. may not have gotten anything from that meeting doesn’t change the fact he attempted to conspire with a foreign government. If Donnie Jr. had gone to rob a bank and the teller told Trump Jr. all of the money had just been locked in the vault and the teller didn’t have the combination and Trump left without money, that’s still attempted bank robbery.

    I get it, though. You wanted to beat Hillary and any means necessary was ok to do it.

  641. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #683
    The new FOX News Poll has Party Identification of D+10.
    The Generic Congressional Ballot is D+11 although the crossovers are identical at about 5% and the planned votes are the same–about 90%– within each Party.(See Question 14)

    The PID is ridiculous and the FOX pollsters should be embarrassed.These are the same clowns that had the Alabama Senate race at Jones(D) +9 or +10

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/08/22/fox-news-poll-822.html

  642. Phil says:

    Doesn’t matter whether Cohen or Manafort had anything to do with the whole Russian collusion thing. Doesn’t matter one bit. They obviously don’t. That’s not what this was ever about. Just get Trump on anything they can find. Fish 24/7 every day of the week. This was never about Russian collusion. That hole dried up a long time ago. So did the next step of the ladder – obstruction of justice. Now we’ve moved on to supposed “campaign finance violations” Right on down the list they go….and they’ll move on to something else. The Trump haters always do. Oh, and the 90 percent of Republicans who are happy with what Trump has accomplished – we’re the hacks while the 10% that hate the man? Why, their enlightened and morally superior ones. Same old sh*t all day long.

  643. Phil says:

    Geez, Robbie. You really still trying to push the Russian collusion stuff? Really? Mueller’s got nothing.

  644. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Believe Robert Byrne said it best: “Democracy is being allowed to vote for the candidate you dislike least.”

    The Democrats would take the nation into a crazy leftist socialism. By contrast Trump has a highly successful economic policy, and has done many other things to improve the country.

    Do I like him; no. I detest a lot of things about him. Will I vote for him, yes. Because we badly need his type of “disruptive” leadership to break a rotten status quo. Hopefully someone comes along later who I do not personally detest; but now I will support the one who is effectively moving the country forward with the changes it badly needs.

  645. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #683
    This week’s Reuters/ Ipsos Weekly Tracking Poll has the Generic Congressional Ballot at D+4 with a PID of D+4.
    The PID in the FOX NEWS Poll is a bad joke!

    https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/reuters-ipsos-data-core-political-2018-08-22

  646. Phil says:

    A D+10 turnout model in a midterm election. And they probably believe in unicorns and the tooth fairy. I love it

  647. Messy says:

    Michael Cohen has been subpoenaed by a NY state grand jury investigating the Trump foundation.

    If Papadapolos tries to withdraw his guilty plea, that means he perjured himself during the elocution last year.

  648. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    686. Robbie meeting with someone who is willing to provide information does not constitute a crime. There would need to be an active conspiracy where they were working together to commit an illegal act. There is no proof that Trump, Jr., did this.
    There is a difference between talking to someone and actively working and conspiring with them as part of a concerted action.

  649. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #693
    You claim that you are a Constitutional lawyer, whose books are used at Harvard Law School. In your above post #693, elocution is the wrong word.
    You are a lying Moron!

  650. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 22, 2018 at 6:32 pm
    Doesn’t matter whether Cohen or Manafort had anything to do with the whole Russian collusion thing. Doesn’t matter one bit. They obviously don’t. That’s not what this was ever about. Just get Trump on anything they can find. Fish 24/7 every day of the week. This was never about Russian collusion. That hole dried up a long time ago

    – Oh, I get it. The only crime that matters is collusion/conspiracy. It’s ok if potentially he committed other crimes.

    Here’s a thought, Phil. Don’t support a crook and you won’t have to worry about all of the garbage that goes with it.

  651. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 22, 2018 at 6:40 pm
    Geez, Robbie. You really still trying to push the Russian collusion stuff? Really? Mueller’s got nothing.

    – How do you know Mueller has nothing? Did Rudy tell you?

    As for collusion, I have long said I don’t think Trump colluded with Russian because I think he was too stupid do it. However, that doesn’t mean Donnie Jr. didn’t do something that could get him in deep trouble.

  652. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 22, 2018 at 6:58 pm
    A D+10 turnout model in a midterm election. And they probably believe in unicorns and the tooth fairy. I love it

    – Unskew!

  653. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 22, 2018 at 7:00 pm
    686. Robbie meeting with someone who is willing to provide information does not constitute a crime. There would need to be an active conspiracy where they were working together to commit an illegal act. There is no proof that Trump, Jr., did this.
    There is a difference between talking to someone and actively working and conspiring with them as part of a concerted action

    – Meeting with someone who is a representative of a foreign government (not just a foreigner) and promises to provide dirt on an opposing candidate could well be a crime. That’s why there is a law against it.

    Did Donnie Jr. commit a crime? Maybe. Maybe not. It certainly is interesting Donnie Jr. has not been asked to appear before Mueller’s grand jury yet. Is he a target? I don’t know.

    Just because the bank robber doesn’t end up with money doesn’t mean the bank robber didn’t commit a crime. We’ll see.

  654. Diamond Jim says:

    DCC

  655. Messy says:

    695. my propensity for typos is well known here. Allocution and Elocution are synonyms, don’tcha know. Threfore, it is you who is the moron for attacking me for typos.

  656. Tina says:

    I am so excited. Hillary can now be president.

    Jebot

  657. Tina says:

    Muh Trump Tower.

  658. Tina says:

    Rs with a plus 12 advantage over Drats in az in early voting.

  659. Phil says:

    Tell you what, Robbie – the exits in November will give us the Party ID on election day. Want to put some $$ on whether or not it will be anything like D+10? I’m game. Less than D+10 you send $100 to the Huntsville Tx animal shelter and if it’s D+10 or more I’ll send $100 to the DNC or whatever Trump hating group you designate. Tell you what. Let’s make the over under D+6.

  660. Tina says:

    Lanny Davis on mslsd just admitted there is no evidence that trump directed crackpot Cohen to break the law of paying money to stormy via an nda.

    More lannny please. MThe got his client to plea to two non crimes.

  661. Tina says:

    This much crime story is imploding thanks to the genius of lannny.

    More lannny or lunacy.

  662. lisab says:

    Doesn’t matter whether Cohen or Manafort had anything to do with the whole Russian collusion thing. Doesn’t matter one bit. They obviously don’t. That’s not what this was ever about. Just get Trump on anything they can find. Fish 24/7 every day of the week.
    —————————–

    now you finally get it

  663. Tina says:

    Lanny David is a registered foreign agent working for a Ukrainian with Russian ties.

    More lannny please.

  664. lisab says:

    if you think they will stop with trump’s impeachment, you are nuts

    open borders
    tax rollback followed by the increases hillary wanted
    regulations reinstated

    all coming to a red state near you

  665. Tina says:

    Folks, the insurance policy, there were two,

    One was the fib,doj 2016/2017. Includes sjw Yates, comedy, McCabe, Pete the cheat Ohr, and Ugly Ohr.

    The seicond insurance policy is Fuhrer Mukhead.

    Trump needs to go on offensive and take out Mulehead

  666. mnw says:

    WSJ:

    54% of Americans own stocks.*

    The S&P 500 is up 34% since the night Trump was elected.

    But… muh Stormy!

    *(I suspect some of the 54% are unaware that they own stocks. I suspect some of the 54% think that their IRAs just grow… somehow, probably thanks to Nancy Pelosi.)

  667. Tina says:

    What is a stock?

    Clinton .groupie

  668. Tina says:

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    ‘Thirteen references to Mr. Cohen are false in the dossier’
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  669. Phil says:

    Yes, more Lanny

    &

    as Tina likes to say

    More Hogg.

  670. SusyQue says:

    Mr. President Trump, I am in American and I am wanting you to know that you have all my support, respect and love with my confidence since Day 1 because of your great JOB already done and tirelessly done each day of your Presidency with your trememdous energy and your good Plan to act in the right way in transparency (your briefing daily done professionnaly by Ms Sanders – beautifully is an example for anyone in Power in the World) You deserve all Respect and love of everyone for your work to make America greater, safer, better than ever in all areas overcomig all these obstacles all around the White House. For each piece of hate and obstruction against you – you must know that you have a lot of appreciation and love going towards you and your administration all around you and foreing Places in the World. Keep up the good JOB – You are the BEST and UNIQUE one.

  671. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Great article by Victor Davis Hanson showing that the U.S. policies prior to Trump were what was abnormal.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/08/trump-disrupted-american-transformation-into-lead-from-behind-nation/

    What leftists do not understand is even without Trump, the “Trumpist” movement would continue.

  672. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    715. “More Hogg”

    Actually Hogg has turned on Pelosi and older Democrats, and wants them to go away. Be careful Robbie, he may be coming after you next!

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/20/david-hogg-turns-on-older-democrats-wont-move-the-/

  673. Chicon says:

    SDC – I here Robbie is a Hogg lover…

  674. Tina says:

    Yup and lannny just admitted he has no evidence of trump forcing colon to do anything.

    Plus, lannny gave out a website address that defaulted to trump.

    Glorious day,

    Remember, wait 24/48 hours post latest Jebot hoax.

  675. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie is correct that the same people giving Trump a free pass would have howled if Obama did the same things or was associated with people doing the same things. It is good that Hillary is not President. Both can be true.

  676. Tgca says:

    From what I’m reading by legal experts, Trump paying hush money is not a campaign finance violation because as a candidate, he can donate as much as he wishes to his own campaign to cover expenses. This is the same result if his attorney paid out the money and the candidate reimbursed him for the payout because the attorney acted as his agent.

    The finance campaign violation results if a 3rd party pays out beyond the individual contribution limit from their own funds that is NOT reimbursed by the candidate or is reimbursed to the 3rd party by another party not an authorized agent for the candidate in order to hide the true source of the campaign contribution.

    If this is true, and Cohen paid out on his own, then he committed the violation and not Trump. It makes no sense that Trump would ask Cohen to violate the law and reimburse him for the violation when he simply can direct Cohen to pay the amount and legitimately reimburse him for such expenditures if Cohen is his agent because Trump is allowed to put as much money to cover his campaign costs as he wishes.

  677. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “The tide appears to be receding on the “blue wave” in Oregon.

    “Oregon Gov. Kate Brown fights for political life as voters tire of ‘resistance’ Democratic incumbent tied with Republican Knute Buehler in deep-blue state.”

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/22/kate-brown-undercut-antifa-ice-protests-oregon-gov/

  678. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    721. “Robbie is correct that the same people giving Trump a free pass would have howled if Obama did the same things or was associated with people doing the same things. It is good that Hillary is not President. Both can be true.”

    Noticed the Democrats did not howl while Bill Clinton was traveling around the world, obtaining multi-million dollar donations for the Clinton Foundation from other countries, like Qatar, while Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State and doing business with these countries. Isn’t this quite a bit worse than Trump, Jr., looking at some documents in a hotel room?

  679. Tgca says:

    Bitter

    I move into my home next week so me, you, and Michael can start hanging out at your favorite Philly gay bars regularly and going to flower shows on the weekends.

  680. Tina says:

    August 22, 2018 at 9:09 pm
    http://www.dailycaller.com/2018/08/22/dershowitz-trump-payment-not-illegal/ “It’s not even a close question, that is so over-the-top,” Dershowitz said after Baier played a clip of Trump being accused of “high crime and misdemeanor.” “It is not a crime to contribute to your own campaign. If he had written a letter to these two women saying you’re going to hurt me in my campaign, I’m going to pay you $150,000 to help me get elected president and you have to keep it quiet, it’s hush money. No crime.”

    “I challenge any of those who say it’s a crime to find me anything in the criminal law that would make it a crime for a president personally or candidate personally to pay in order to save his own election,” said Dershowitz. “It’s just not against the law. It may be a political sin, even if it determined the outcome of the election but the rule of law requires that when you say something is a crime, show me the statute.”

    Dershowitz

  681. Tina says:

    The money was his and not the campaign.

    But more Hogg, more Russian hoaxes, and more lannny

  682. Tina says:

    Obama did something more than trump. He paid a large campaign fine st the time in 2008.

    Next.

  683. Tgca says:

    I can’t believe the audacity that Lanny Davis has to say that the turning point for Cohen to turn against Trump was because of Trump’s meeting with Putin and that Cohen feels Trump is a corrupt president. ThIs is so laughable that a guy just admitting to tax and bank fraud has a standard of what ethical behavior should be. …and Lanny says those with a straight face. That’s like a street hooker claiming she is disgusted by promiscuous behavior or a rapist outraged by Harvey Weinstein’s behavior. It’s beyond ludicrous!

  684. Tina says:

    More lanny…

    Chuck Ross
    @ChuckRossDC
    9m
    Lanny Davis just dropped a bomb on CNN’s ‘bombshell’ report that Michael Cohen has information that Trump knew about Trump Tower meeting. Davis says Cohen *does not* have info on Trump knowing about the meeting. dailycaller.com/2018/08/22/lan… via @dailycaller pic.twitter.com/o1HMyak05v
    View photo ·

  685. Tina says:

    I told you. Cohen testified to the SSIC that trump did not know.

    I also linked to burrs statement spwhereby lanny indicated the same,

    So at this point, lannny dufus made his client plea to two non crimes.

    More Lanny.

  686. mnw says:

    Tg

    It was good to read about your health getting better.

  687. Tina says:

    Chuck Ross
    @ChuckRossDC
    5m
    Today Michael Cohen’s lawyer kneecapped the 2 biggest collusion conspiracy theories out there — the Steele dossier and that Trump had prior knowledge of Trump Tower meeting. dailycaller.com/2018/08/22/lan… @DailyCaller
    View summary ·

  688. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca – What neighborhood/gayborhood are you moving to?

  689. Tgca says:

    Mnw

    Thanks. The short term prognosis is good but I was informed that the long-term prognosis was not. It is not likely I will live beyond 100 without serious deterioration. I’m learning to deal with that a little bit more each day.

  690. Tgca says:

    Cherry Hill. Surely, any town with a fruity name qualifies as a gayborhood. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight?

  691. Hugh says:

    Tgca. Did you abandon me and move to philly?

  692. Bitterlaw says:

    Cherry Hill, New Jersey? When did you become Jewish?

  693. Tgca says:

    737

    Not yet Hugh…but soon. My move is officially on Sep 1st.

    Maybe if you took me to gay bars and flower shows like Bitter intends, I would not abandon you here in south Florida.

  694. Tgca says:

    Oy vey. It’s temporary until I find the right lil place in Pennsy.

  695. Bitterlaw says:

    Try Olde City, Fairmount, Rittenhouse Square or Society Hill. Nice areas for a fabulous guy.

  696. Tgca says:

    I need garage, in unit laundry facilities, central A/C, and 2 40 to 55 lb dogs allowed. I’m not seeing many places with that in the nicer areas.

  697. Hugh says:

    Sorry tgca my knowledge is less than yours. Others than frequently Rosie’s I have no expertise on where to go. I’m shocked bitter is useful.

  698. Hugh says:

    Tgca. The best part about philly is that it is the best byob wine town in America. Great restaurants with bring your own wine with no corkage charge.

  699. Bitterlaw says:

    Garage is tough. Can your new company pay for parking near work? Just use it on weekends, too. An alternative is live just outside the city. There are also areas like Manayunk and East Passyunk Area (in city but hip). Older areas gentrified.

  700. Tgca says:

    744. Hugh

    Well since I never ever drink alcohol and haven’t touched the sinful brew in at least 18 years, I’m not sure if byob is on the top of my list of Philly attractions.

    My FL home is very close to Rosie’s, about a mile away but I haven’t been there in years. But I do frequent the Starbucks across the street.

  701. Tgca says:

    Bitter

    I think I might prefer the burbs as long as I have my older pooch. A house is better for her. Once she moves on to Doggy Heaven, I can consider a condo or townhouse in Philly with my younger, smaller dog who is about 38 lbs.

    Alternatively, I could stay at your place for free and save money. Your wife cooks vegan and organic, right?

  702. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    748. “Your wife cooks vegan and organic, right?”

    I knew people who cook vegan. They say vegans don’t taste very good; are a bit stringy and bland. Vegans really need to incorporation some grass feed beef in their diet if they want to become more tasty.

  703. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump sent out a tweet that may be an example of an attempt by him to lay a trap for the liberal press. It concerned the appropriation of white farmers land in South Africa.

    @realDonaldTrump
    “I have asked Secretary of State @SecPompeo to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.” @TuckerCarlson @FoxNews”

    South Africa has now begun expropriating white farmers land. However am not aware of any farmers being killed. Reuters Breaking News has already attacked Trump’s claim of farmers being killed, but its story also refuses to discuss, and even attempts to deny, that white farmers land is being expropriated. This is blatantly false. Is the rest of the liberal press going to deny that white farmers land is being taken also, or try to justify it? Are far leftist in the U.S. going to demand that some sort of reparations be paid by Anglos in the U.S. as reparations for bigotry and slavery?

    In another example of the leftist press trying to be politically correct, the illegal immigrant who murdered Tibbetts in Iowa is now being referred to in the headline of an AP article as a “hardworking farmhand.”

  704. Messy says:

    733. Fake news. Cohen said Trump DID.

    715, 718. Hogg is a kid. His moment has passed and is to be ignored.

    738. There are plenty of “Goys” in Cherry Hill, NJ. The accusation is racist.

    702. Hillary will never be president. President Pence would be succeeded in ’20 by a Democrat we’ve probably not heard of as yet.

    711. That would cause the Republicans to impeach him this year.

    750. As to South Africa, AS far as I know, no one has yet been killed, and expropriation has not yet occured. If and when it happens, SA would turn into Zimbabwe and that country has been destroyed. Trump is right in this case. (I can’t believe I said that). Apparently the murderer in Iowa WAS a “hardworking farmhand,” but as they got him dead to rights, it doesn’t change a thing. Most murders are committed by natural born citizen. Does this make all of US (that includes you Tina.) guilty?

  705. Tina says:

    Undercover Huber
    @JohnWHuber
    3h
    The law that made Hillary Clinton’s reckless use of classified information illegal? (18 USC §793) DOES NOT REQUIRE ANY INTENT The campaign finance law that Donald Trump supposedly violated? (52 USC §30109) REQUIRES *KNOWING* AND *WILFUL* INTENT TO VIOLATE IT THREAD pic.twitter.com/Ja5XEqg5Ba

  706. Tina says:

    We need more Lanny today

    Admits colon was not in Prague, one of the claims of the dossier.

    Gave out a website that went to trump.

    Had his client plead to two non crimes.

    Admits that trump did not force him to do anything.

    And admits that trump did not know of the trump tower meeting, which was a set up by Natalia and Fusion,

  707. Messy says:

    753. Davis’ website mistake was a mistake. Cohen and Davis said that Trump ORDERED him to do that with Daniels and McDougal.(Sic) Yeah, it’s true he didn’t have a gun to his head, but it was done on orders.

    If he plead to two “non-crimes” the SDNY and and a Federal Judge didn’t KNOW that.

    The Trump Tower meeting was set up by FUSION? Sure, and the Pope’s a practicing Moonie…..Jeez!

    The National Inquirer has flipped! They’re now cooperating with SDNY.

  708. Phil says:

    ‘Hardworking farmhand”

    Oh brother. The MSM continues to make fools of themselves. Yeah, CNN, go with ‘hardworking farmhand”. The electorate will absolutely buy into that one. A real winner. LOL

  709. Messy says:

    Fox News says it was 11-1 on convicting Manafort on all counts. Apparently one juror was for jury nullification, but the evidence was too strong on eight of them. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-manaford-jury-deliberations_us_5b7e53efe4b0348585fd611e

  710. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca- If you want suburbs, look in Bala Cynwyd, Ardmore, Radnor (my township) and Wayne. You can probably find a house to rent. There are several colleges here and the owners might prefer to rent to a Fabulous adult with a job than students.

  711. mnw says:

    46/52, same as yesterday.

    I wonder if it ever crosses the troll mind that all the impeachment chatter might be the long-sought key to increasing GOP enthusiasm for the midterms?

  712. Robbie says:

    The outer redoubts of Fort Trump are being overrun.

    Joe Palazzolo
    @joe_palazzolo

    David Pecker, the chair­man of Natl Enquirer publisher Amer­ican Me­dia Inc., gave pros­ecutors de­tails about the hush money payments to Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal, in­clud­ing Trump’s knowl­edge of the deals. @rebeccadobrien @nicole_hong

  713. Robbie says:

    Too late Trumpaloos. The time to throw Trump over board came and went a long time ago. There were plenty of opportunities for Republicans to either break with Trump or, at the very least, rein him in up through this past Spring, but they chose not do so. Now, it’s too late. Trump and his scandals are tied to Republicans like a lead weight around their necks. The question is no longer about how to separate from Trump before 2018. The question now should be how does the party break with him before 2020.

    When you lie down with dogs, you get fleas.

    NYT Politics
    @nytpolitics

    With more shoes to drop, Republicans are urging imperiled incumbents to speak out against the wrongdoing around President Trump, while Democrats are ratcheting up their “culture of corruption” message

  714. Robbie says:

    Spoken like a true mob boss.

    Mediaite
    @Mediaite

    Trump Blasts Cohen: ‘Flipping’ to Get a Plea Deal “Almost Ought to Be Illegal’ http://mediaite.com/a/mmtfq

  715. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    August 23, 2018 at 9:37 am
    46/52, same as yesterday.
    I wonder if it ever crosses the troll mind that all the impeachment chatter might be the long-sought key to increasing GOP enthusiasm for the midterms?

    – I wonder if it ever crosses the Trump populist troll mind that impeachment talk might fire up Trump’s mouth breathing base, but Trump’s base is only about 35% of the voting public as a whole. And considering polling already shows Independents strongly disapprove of Trump, why would the possibility of impeachment suddenly make them fall in love with someone they don’t like?

    Impeachment talk isn’t going to be the secret sauce that saves the day for Republicans. Of course, I’m assuming mnw wants to see all of the Republicans win since many of them don’t subscribe to his populist vomit he believes is the new political superstar ideology.

  716. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie is hilarious. So GOP strategists tell candidates to hedge their bets(#760) on Trump , but he neglects to mention that Nan Pelosi has told her candidates to do the same about running on impeachment. Selective News!
    This was Robbie’s sweetheart last week:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6079721/Omarosas-neighbors-sue-husband-failing-maintain-home.html

    I wonder what his outrage and thrill will be next week.

  717. Robbie says:

    I guess mnw thinks Tom Cole is a troll for not thinking impeachment will be the secret sauce that motivates the Republican base.

    Andrew Desiderio
    @desiderioDC

    Tom Cole on the Cohen plea deal: “I’ve heard some on our side say this will help Republicans rile up our base. That, to me, is laughable.”

  718. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    August 23, 2018 at 9:59 am
    Robbie is hilarious. So GOP strategists tell candidates to hedge their bets(#760) on Trump , but he neglects to mention that Nan Pelosi has told her candidates to do the same about running on impeachment. Selective News!
    This was Robbie’s sweetheart last week:

    – LOL! Have you ever thought of being a comedian because this is comic gold.

    I guess this is a new genre of “whataboutism”. If I point out that Republicans are in a tough spot because of X, I also have to point out something that Sheeple thinks is the same for Democrats otherwise I’m not presenting all of the news? LOL!

    The Trumpaloos are really reaching now to deflect from bad news. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DEMOCRATS!

  719. Todd McCain says:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/08/22/lanny_davis_so_called_dossier_false_cohen_never_prague.html

    WOW; this is pretty crazy; not only does Davis say that the parts of the Dosssier re Cohen are false he also stands by Trump not knowing about the Tower meeting………..seems like Davis just helped DJT significantly.

  720. Tina says:

    Yup, Lanny is th gift that keeps on giving.

    More Lanny.

    Colon is boxed in to his testimony that he gave to Warner, burr, SSIC.

    He cannot change it.

    Lanny also informed both that he is not changing it.m trump did not know of the meeting,

    Natalia is connected to fusion,

  721. Bitterlaw says:

    Bold prediction – No matter what happens in the midterms, Robbie will declare that it is a disaster for Trump and the GOP AND Trump supporters will say it was a great day for Trump (if the GOP holds the House) or had nothing to do with Trump (if the Dems take the House).

  722. Tina says:

    Does Tom Cole approve of secret hush money paid to people by taxpayers. You know the ones that congress hid.

    After all, that could be interpreted by “justice, ny” as an illegal payment to “benefit a campaign”.

  723. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    August 23, 2018 at 10:18 am
    Bold prediction – No matter what happens in the midterms, Robbie will declare that it is a disaster for Trump and the GOP AND Trump supporters will say it was a great day for Trump (if the GOP holds the House) or had nothing to do with Trump (if the Dems take the House)

    – Probably, but I’m assuming right now Republicans are in position to lose up to 40 House seats, lose up to 10 governorships, and lose several hundred (maybe up to 300) state legislative seats. If those numbers come in much smaller than they appear to me right now, it’s entirely possible I won’t declare it a disaster even though I HATE Trump with the energy of 1000 suns.

  724. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    August 23, 2018 at 10:18 am
    Does Tom Cole approve of secret hush money paid to people by taxpayers. You know the ones that congress hid.
    After all, that could be interpreted by “justice, ny” as an illegal payment to “benefit a campaign”.

    – It’s been a rough week for Tinfoil.

  725. Tina says:

    It’s been a rough week for Jebot troll.

    At least it did not answer with pizza port, Seth rich, something q.

  726. Robbie says:

    Hiding behind the office of the presidency to avoid indictment is the new conservatism.

    Erick Erickson
    @EWErickson

    You can say “but Hillary” all you want, but the reality is Donald Trump would have been indicted over this Cohen stuff if he were not President of the United States.

  727. Phil says:

    Hardworking farmhand.

    I can’t get over that one. Ha

  728. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    August 23, 2018 at 10:28 am
    It’s been a rough week for Jebot troll.
    At least it did not answer with pizza port, Seth rich, something q.

    – I could have answered with your claim there was no way Michael Flynn would ever flip on Trump and plead guilty or your claim there were no Donnie Jr. emails about the Trump Tower meeting 12 hours before Donnie Jr. released his emails about the Trump Tower meeting, but I was trying to be merciful. Won’t make that mistake twice.

  729. Todd McCain says:

    even though I HATE Trump with the energy of 1000 suns

    Oh really? We didn’t notice.

  730. Tina says:

    Papadope wore a wire

    Jebot

  731. Todd McCain says:

    Cohen is a RAT; Manafort should get a pardon.

  732. Robbie says:

    Todd McCain says:
    August 23, 2018 at 10:31 am
    even though I HATE Trump with the energy of 1000 suns
    Oh really? We didn’t notice.

    – I suspect after the election there will be a lot of people who suddenly no longer like Trump and even come to hate him.

  733. Phil says:

    Well, Robbie, you can always hope.

    How about my wager offer? Are we on?

  734. Robbie says:

    Todd McCain says:
    August 23, 2018 at 10:53 am
    Cohen is a RAT; Manafort should get a pardon.

    – I see the party of law and order is holding strong in the Trump era.

    I guess the new standard is crimes are only important when the person isn’t “loyal” to Trump. If a person commits a series of crimes and remains loyal to Trump, those crimes aren’t really important.

  735. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 23, 2018 at 10:58 am
    Well, Robbie, you can always hope.
    How about my wager offer? Are we on?

    – A bet on what? That a lot of people will suddenly no longer like Trump if the party gets its teeth kicked in on election day?

    I’m not expecting that to happen in this forum. Quite the contrary, I think many here will become more devoted to Trump if the party suffers a big loss because they will blame the loss on disloyalty to Trump. The Trump populists here are already laying the ground work to say the loss will be because Republicans weren’t Trumpy enough.

    My guess is Republicans, in general and measured by polling, will start to change their views on Trump if there is a sizable election loss. The party is still center right and not populist.

    Before the 2006 election, GWB was extremely popular among Republicans in polling. A FoxNews poll taken about two weeks before election day 2006 showed his support in the party was at the same level it was on election day 2004 (about 80%).

    After Republicans lost both the Senate and the House, support among Republicans for GWB slowly decreased in 2007. And by mid 2008, GWB couldn’t even show up at the Republican convention. Obviously, Iraq and the economy played a role in 2008, but my guess is something similar will happen to Trump in 2019 and 2020 if Republicans get smashed and Trump’s legal woes continue to mount.

  736. Phil says:

    Robbie, see posts 698 & 705.

  737. Tina says:

    Rudy Giuliani
    @RudyGiuliani
    3h
    If there is any justice left at DOJ why is payment by Hillary Clinton and DNC to FusionGPS for the phony Steele dossier not under investigation. On your theory in Cohen plea it’s an illegal campaign contribution.Let’s go DOJ wake up. where’s the indictment. Clintons not above law
    View details ·
    Rudy Giuliani Rudy Giuliani
    @RudyGiuliani
    6h
    Read the Hill-Mark Penn’s article demonstrating Cohen pled guilty to two payments that are not violations of the law. If campaign paid for settling private claims it would be fraud. Any nutty theory to harass the President.
    View details ·

  738. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 23, 2018 at 11:15 am
    Robbie, see posts 698 & 705.

    – Of course, you know as well as I do from the 2012 debates here polling treats party affiliation as a sentiment, not a hard weighting like gender, race, or income level.

    I don’t for an instant believe Democrats will have an 11 point party ID advantage on election day, but that’s not what polling is measuring. It’s measuring sentiment.

  739. Robbie says:

    Mark Penn has become the new Pat Caddell. A Democrat who sides with Republicans just to make a buck. Yawn.

    Also, it’s sad to watch Rudy Giuliani go from America’s mayor to America’s circus clown. He’s taken what was a really good reputation and torched it in the last five months while defending Trump.

    Rudy’s Orwellian “truth isn’t truth” comment will likely be the sad coda to his career.

  740. Phil says:

    Wait a sec, Robbie. I said the D+10 poll was fantasyland stuff and you made a caustic remark about my skepticism – “unskew” I’m just suggesting we put our money where our mouths are. The 2006 35 seat gain for Democrats on election day was D+2 BTW. The 2008 Obama landslide in a presidential year with every black voter in America showing up was D+7. I love animals, you hate Trump, one of us will be happy where the money goes.

  741. Tina says:

    I rather have Republican side with democrats.

    Jenot

  742. Tina says:

    The Rs that side with ds do not make a buck.

    Jebot

  743. Phil says:

    789

    Exactly, Tina.

  744. Messy says:

    Meanwhile, Down Under, Prime Minister Turnball is being deposed. A second “spill” has been scheduled for tonight (our time) and he’s not going to put up his name for the Liberal (that’s what they call conservatives down there) party leadership.

    Who will the next prime minister of Australia be? Frankly, I’ve no idea. All I know is that this is how he and his three predecessors got the job.

  745. Tina says:

    I for one like making a buck targeting Rs.

    Socialist head of the Weekly Socialist Standard.

  746. lisab says:

    Probably, but I’m assuming right now Republicans are in position to lose up to 40 House seats
    ————-

    not a bold prediction on the house

    one third of midterm losses have been more than 40 seats

    one third less than 20 seats

    and the rest from 20 to 40 seats

    so robbie is predicting an average loss

  747. Blobbie says:

    I am going to make an even bolder prediction

    The Democratic Party will win UP to:

    33 governorships
    435 House seats
    and
    33 Senate seats!!!

    Remember, I said Up to, I won’t make my actual prediction until after the election.

  748. Tina says:

    Goober Graham calls for trump to fire sessions, after the election.

  749. phoenixrisen says:

    #787 — The Dems probably have a 3-4 point lead in the GCB right now Phil. That Fox News D+10 weighted poll was nuts. The Dems probably need to be at a 7-8 point lead to have a reasonable chance of retaking the House. They don’t have a snowball’s chance of retaking the Senate. Baldwin is in serious trouble in Wisconsin, being up only 2 on Vukmir in the latest Senate polling from Marquette which is the gold standard in Wisconsin for the most part, Nelson is going down vs. Scott, Housely is gaining on Smith in Minnesota, Sky Queen goes down against Hawley. Even Mendenez is in trouble in New Jersey. Heitkamp is going down in North Dakota. The only GOP seat I really see in danger of going down is Heller in Nevada. Not worried about McSally in Arizona. The one that puzzles me is Donnelly in Indiana. Want to see some more polling soon on that one. Watch out for James vs. Stabenow in Michigan. That would could be the big upset. Manchin is going to be tough in West Virginia to unseat. The one that ticks me off is Virginia. Kaine and Warner have to be the luckiest senators alive these last two cylcles. If the GOP had been a little more aggressive in northern VA in 2014, we would have Senator Gillespie right now.

  750. Phil says:

    Before Trump could fire Sessions wouldn’t he have to find him? Pretty sure he continues to hide under his desk.

  751. Tina says:

    Chuck Ross
    @ChuckRossDC
    Follow
    Who were CNN’s sources on this fake story that Michael Cohen had information on Trump having prior knowledge about the Trump Tower meeting? This was a massive story, spurring all kinds of talk of collusion. Now it’s been debunked. dailycaller.com/2018/08/22/lan… @dailycaller
    6:39 AM – 23 Aug 2018
    Lanny Davis Obliterated CNN’s ‘Bombshell’ Report About Michael Cohen And Trump Tower
    ‘The reporting of the story got mixed up’
    The Daily Caller The Daily Caller @DailyCaller

  752. Phil says:

    796. Phoenix, since you are on the ground there I’d be interested in your analysis of McSally’s chances.

  753. Tina says:

    8m
    July 27: @CNN reports Cohen will tell Mueller that Trump knew about Trump Tower meeting in advance Aug 21: Senate Intel says Cohen told them he didn’t know about the meeting Aug 22: Lanny Davis says Cohen has no info that Trump knew about the meeting Aug 23: No @CNN correction

  754. mnw says:

    phoenix 796

    The good news on Vukmir in WI is based on only ONE poll. I hope it’s right, but it sounds too good to be twue* to me. In general, I mistrust college polls, including the one yesterday from St. Leo’s showing Scott +6 on Nelson.

    * Blazing Saddles: “It’s twue! It’s twue!”

  755. phoenixrisen says:

    Actually Phil, I am in Oklahoma. But once the GOP primary dust settles, McSally should pull away. mnw, Scott has held a steady lead on Nelson for awhile now. I put much more stock in Marquette polling regarding Wisconsin because they are usually right on point with the outlier being Trump vs. Hillary in 2016. Baldwin clearly is in trouble. Also Wisconsin having 2.9% unemployment under Walker’s governing creates some great coattails for Vukmir.

  756. phoenixrisen says:

    Much ado about nothing. The depression is that will settle in for the media will be epic.

  757. Waingro says:

    Great news.

    Henry J. Gomez
    ?Verified account @HenryJGomez

    New #AZSen Republican primary poll from Data Orbital:

    McSally – 48.1%
    Ward – 22.1%
    Arpaio – 17.6%
    Undecided – 8.4%

  758. Tina says:

    Yes, great news.

    Mcsalley will be the next AZ senator.

  759. Redmen4ever says:

    Trump wouldn’t be the first person to be charged with violating campaign finance for making payments to a mistress.

    In 2012, Jonathan Edwards was charged and tried for using $1 million in campaign contributions to make payments to coverup an affair during 2007-2008. The payments weren’t from personal funds, but moneys contributed by two donors. Edwards’ defense was that the payments weren’t political, but were designed to keep knowledge of his affair from his (dying) wife. He was acquitted on one charge and the jury hung on five other charges.

    So, there is precedent that payments to mistresses may, at least under certain circumstances, be covered by campaign finance (bad for Trump), but that proving this is difficult even if the money involved is from donors (good for Trump). Furthermore, Trump’s payments weren’t from campaign funds but from personal funds.

  760. Tina says:

    Grassley now wants trump to fire sessions, after the midterm, he joins goober,

    Feeble Senator sass hole does not want sessions to be fired.

  761. NYCmike says:

    “Sure, and the Pope’s a practicing Moonie…..Jeez!”

    -Robbie,

    Is this true?

  762. Ron N says:

    On vacation in Lisbon eating lunch with a group first time meeting me my wife a couple from Austria and a couple from Portugal. During the conersation the couple start talking politics and said they loved trump and then the the Portugal couple agreed to my surprise. They all said he just cares about what’s best for the US. This is coming from a doctor and and a lawyer not just anybody. I thought I would have to fought but trump well like internationally.

  763. NYCmike says:

    “Mcsalley will be the next AZ senator.”

    -Let’s keep fighting as if we are behind by a run in the bottom of the 9th.

    I am starting to feel more confident about November. Trump will NOT let up, he will be pushing all the way thru the election, because he WANTS TO HUMILIATE the SOB’s in his way. Hopefully, all Republicans will push on every issue favorable to them, OVER AND OVER!

  764. Ron N says:

    BTW if never been to Lisbon well worth 3 day visit.

  765. NYCmike says:

    Robbie, a “conservative Republican”, wants Republicans to lose the House, Governorships, and many more elected offices…….all because he is a devout Catholic who cares for the unborn and limited government.

  766. NYCmike says:

    Ron N,

    I have wanted to visit Lisbon ever since reading “The Rhinemann Exchange”.

  767. lisab says:

    personally, i think the republicans will lose the house … i am GUESSING a 35 seat loss, plus or minus 5.

    therefore, i think impeachment is almost a sure thing.

    the crime? he beat hillary.

  768. lisab says:

    keep in mind i am NOT hoping for this result …

    i hope the republicans keep the house, so there is not impeachment trial

    i think that would be a catastrophic event for the usa

    and would mean an incredibly partisan 2020 election

  769. lisab says:

    if trump is deposed by the dems

    i think the borders will be opened

    not just amnesty, but citizenship for illegals will be given, to prevent a 2016 from ever happening again

    taxes will be rolled back and increased

    we will become a very centralized government, where states will not be able to avoid huge welfare programs like obamacare, and therefore there will not be a big difference between living in texas or ny … all states will have to raise state taxes immensely to cover things like medicaid for all

    and generally the middle class will disappear

  770. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    So Robbie you quoted the New York Times in Post 760. As a supposed conservative Republican, do you consider the NYTs a reputable and fair news source?

  771. Todd McCain says:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/23/martha-mcsally-kyrsten-sinema-attack-ad-794337

    If she runs ads like this and runs aggressively, she will be Senator. Seems like she is going to win her primary impressively.

  772. Tina says:

    I consider cnn, msnbc, cbs, abc, and nbc all credible.

  773. Tina says:

    -Jebot

  774. lisab says:

    the bad thing is robbie is not unique

    all the snowflakes are just like him

    assuming the republicans lose the house, which is highly likely,

    we are going to have to listen to their obnoxious comments for two more years

  775. Messy says:

    Fox is preparing to flip. Niel Cavuto just tore Donnie a new one.

  776. Ron N says:

    I feel that a 20-30 lost for mid term. But as long as trump policy move forward he may be stronger in 2020 and kill the dem by saying the dems has stopped the economy. Or how much better we would be doing if not fighting them every step of the way. Worst thing is if R keep house 2 or 3 vote. Nothing gets done. Rather lose and force impeachment.

  777. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Democrats are hoping for a huge blue wave, and expecting to gain 40-50 seats. If that doesn’t happen, and the Republicans pick up seats in the Senate, see them being disappointed.

    Watching Pelosi, Maxime Waters and the caste of crazies try and run the House may strengthen the Republicans for 2020.

  778. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    823. “I feel that a 20-30 lost for mid term.”

    Think that is a good prediction. Let the circus begin. Will be fun to see if Robbie tries to defend what they do.

  779. Tina says:

    Robert Barnes
    @Barnes_Law
    4h
    Somebody tell AG Magoo the DOJ has been “improperly influenced by political considerations” for a long, long, long time. twitter.com/ZoeTillman/sta…
    View details ·

  780. lisab says:

    20 to 30 would be less than average

    it could happen, but is unlikely

  781. Ron N says:

    Nycmick,
    Go if every a chance 3 days is enough. Very good and relaxing food is great. The ppl very nice. Back to politics impeach make trump stronger.

  782. Ron N says:

    Like I say 20-30 in 2018. Dems will be a disater with small margins. MSM will not say but Trump is loved in the the country outside (DC,Cal,NY) unlike Obama’s 2020 they will pick up more and not lose.

  783. lisab says:

    ron n,

    if you are correct

    there will be nothing but impeachment 24/7/365 for the next two years

  784. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Fox is preparing to flip. Niel Cavuto just tore Donnie a new one.”

    Really Messy? Did you watch the Fox News interview with Trump today, which CNN referred to as a friendly chat.

  785. Phil says:

    Sometimes I think Messy is living on another planet.

  786. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    830. “there will be nothing but impeachment 24/7/365 for the next two years.”

    That happened with Bill Clinton, and his polling numbers went up and the Democrats did well in the 1998 mid-terms.

    Is the party of Bill Clinton and Anthony Weiner really going to get somewhere playing the morality card over Trump’s payments to his past sexual partners. The economy is what matters, and I expect the Democrats to come up with off the wall socialist proposals

  787. dblaikie says:

    Folks are missing the big news of the day! Lindsey Graham and Chuck Grassley are at the center of the Republican Senate Caucus. Today they gave the President the green light to fire Jeff Sessions on Nov.7. They wouldn’t have that much of a change of heart unless the DOJ is as corrupt as it looks. I haven’t heard Mitch come out and shoot them down either. His replacement will take over the Mueller probe from Rosenstiein. This is a big deal. I believe it is their way of saying that what is going on at the DOJ and FBI is unjust and corrupt.

    So I hate to tell Robbie this, but Mueller better come up with some real stuff in the next few weeks or he and his merry band of leftists will be toast. In fact I believe a bogus report is already being written, because there is zero chance of Trump talking with Mueller.

    Now I believe that the GOP will keep the House. But with Senate safely in GOP hands it really won’t matter. The 2020 election will start about 6 months after the Midterms. But if the worst happens and they take control of the House, let them have all the impeachment meetings they want. They will go nowhere. And all the while the Senate will keep on pumping out Judges and the electorate will grown further enraged with the twisted hated of Trump Derangement Syndrome.

  788. dblaikie says:

    Oh and I forgot another piece of news from the Trump interview on Fox and Friends. He said he would most likely have to release the documents that the DOJ is sitting on. Watch that to happen in the next couple of days. Now that will be interesting television

  789. Bitterlaw says:

    https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Tom-Wolf-Bob-Casey-Scott-Wagner-Bob-Casey-Pennsylvania-Governor-Senate-Races-491566401.html

    I guess the army of Trump voters are taking 2018 off. Hard to find 2 more unimpressive politicians than Wolf and Casey but they are cruising to re-Election.

  790. Bitterlaw says:

    Remember when Sessions was a solid conservative? Trick question. He is still a solid conservative. Because Trump,who is a conservative, hates him his supporters have to pretend Sessions is weak.

  791. Hugh says:

    Tgca. If you don’t drink wine why would you ever move to Philadelphia? I prefer the Alchemist near you versus Starbucks

  792. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    837. You can be a solid conservative and also weak. What are Sessions major accomplishments while he has been attorney general?

  793. dblaikie says:

    Bitter, don’t get me wrong I like Jeff Sessions. However it was unfortunate that he recused himself in all of this junk. In other words a good and strong man emasculated himself and that is sad. The truth is that the corruption in the DOJ and FBI is a real problem. Comey, Struck, McCabe, and all the rest have hurt and bashed the reputation of places that have the highest reputation and at least on the surface Jeff Sessions has done little.

  794. dblaikie says:

    Sorry, “that should have the highest reputation”

  795. Bitterlaw says:

    Not kissing Trump’s ass is an accomplishment.

  796. Bitterlaw says:

    Sessions made the decision to recuse himself. I defer to his judgement.

  797. Phil says:

    I want the House to impeach President Trump. It’s absolutely the ultimate in overplaying a hand. They should have the votes to pass articles of impeachment. It will make their base feel good. In doing so, however, they will turn most of the country off. Set aside for a moment that there is absolutely no way they can get 67 votes to remove him (the Senate Republican majority in fact will expand in November).

    Does anyone really believe that people in the political middle want to see the Congress tied up for months with an impeachment trial? The economy is booming and the right track wrong track numbers are better than they’ve been since the 90s.

    The best thing that could ever happen to Donald Trump in 2020 is for Maxine, the nutty kid superstar socialist Cortez, Pocahontas Warren and the rest of the Democratic loons to take center stage in long drawn out impeachment procedings. It won’t be a good look I can promise you.

    Please oh please impeach Donald Trump.

  798. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    What has he done as attorney general, outside of recusing himself?

  799. Bitterlaw says:

    Sessions should have said no to Trump. Saying yes lead to Senator Jones (D) – Alabama.

  800. Phil says:

    Hey, Trump has himself to blame. He’s the one who appointed Sessions along with that moron Tillerson for Secretary of State.

    …and yeah, the appointment of Sessions led to that fluke senator Jones that we have to endure for another two years before any Republican candidate not named Roy Moore sends him to the curb,

  801. Hugh says:

    Sessions is a mystery to me. Biggest disappointment of trump appointees. If he had any integrity he would have not taken the job or resigned almost immediately. Another worthless politician who only cares about himself. He has to go the day after the midterms to replace rothenstein who is just doing cya for himself and his friends

  802. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Sessions should have said no to Trump. Saying yes lead to Senator Jones (D) – Alabama.”

    Totally agree. Presidents should not pick political office holders for their administrative positions. They were elected to do jobs, and they should complete their terms.

    Privately, imagine Sessions wishes he had never taken the AG position.

  803. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking news – All politicians only care about themselves.

  804. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    848. I have a great respect for Tillerson, and would choose him over Trump to be president any day.

  805. Tina says:

    You do note that sessions mentioned his recusal during his confirmation hearings.

    Trump could have fired him, but has not yet done so,

    Yes, it is strange.

  806. Tina says:

    Sessions could have said no. He enjoyed being in the senate.

  807. Phil says:

    If Tillerson had had his way we would have still been part of the Iranian deal.

  808. Tina says:

    Tillers on is jeb bush with gray hair.

  809. mnw says:

    Todd McCain 818:

    That may be the most devastating campaign ad I’ve ever seen.* Wow.

    Thx for linking to it. Wow.

    I may have to send McSally a check. Damn! If THAT ad doesn’t move the needle in AZ, then the blue wave is real.

    *”In His Own Words,” by John Thune (against Daschle) might be a little better, perhaps. Close call.

  810. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    McSally is going for the jugular; it is great to see. Her Democratic opponent fake claim that she is a moderate is bogus. There is more coming.

    Republicans looking good in Tennessee, Arizona and Nevada in the senate races. Meanwhile Democrats incumbents looking worse in many states.

    Does Robbie still maintain the Democrats can take the Senate in November?

  811. Tina says:

    Has Lanny disappears?

    Where is Hogg? The elder Drats are mad at him for calling Piglosi old.

    More drat civil war please.

    More Lanny.

  812. lisab says:

    Sessions made the decision to recuse himself.
    ——————————–

    which was a very weak decision which has cost the country

    had he not, the last two years of partisan political prosecutions would not have happened

    he may have been a good senator, but he is not a leader

  813. lisab says:

    not to rain on corey’s parade, but i looked at his blog on the massachusetts race …

    a.) martha coakley is not the only democrat to lose a statewide election since 2002

    b.) charlie baker is not going to be “someone to watch in the future as the Republican Party nationally will be engaged in a fight over its direction.”

    unless of course the republican party decides to merge with the democrat party.

    charlie baker’s nickname is “tall deval”

  814. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Looks like the left’s narrative of the attacker being a “hard working farm hand” is not being accepted by some people:

    “The Washington Times – Thu
    Facebook said Thursday night that it made a mistake in removing a comment by a conservative group that posted about illegal immigration after the death of Iowa college student Mollie Tibbetts.
    The admission came hours after William Gheen, head of Americans for Legal Immigration Political Action Committee, said he’d had his post removed and been slapped with a 24-hour ban for posting what Facebook said was “hate speech.”
    Mr. Gheen was surprised by the move because his post had talked about illegal immigration but he didn’t think it crossed any lines.
    Facebook now agrees.
    “We mistakenly removed a comment by William Gheen and restored it as soon as we were able to investigate because it did not violate our community standards,” the company said in a statement to The Washington Times. “Our team processes millions of reports each week, and sometimes we get things wrong. We are sorry this happened.”

  815. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Looks like Manchin has reservations about surfing the blue wave. That red riptide can be pretty strong:

    “Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) broke with his fellow Democrats’ calls for a delay on confirmation hearings for President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh in light of former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen’s guilty plea.

    “We do our job. Let’s do our job,” Sen. Manchin told reporters Wednesday. “Delaying is not going to help anything.”

    He added that Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has not reached out to him about delaying a vote on Kavanaugh.”

  816. Bitterlaw says:

    I respect Corey for putting in the time and research to evaluate so many races.

  817. Tina says:

    Lisab, so you are the sole viewer of the Clinton groupies website.

    What a losah for posting his site on this blog.

  818. mnw says:

    Orman stays on the ballot in KS. Great news for a great candidate, AG Kobach.

    Today Balderson’s win in OH-12 becomes official. The crap about counting all the provisional yada yada actually increased B’s lead in every county. Remember all the trolls’ election night blush*t about the DEM still pulling this one out?

    BRH (Blue Raison Ho’s) is trying to put lipstick on Synesma after McSally’s tutu ad. They don’t understand… or pretend they don’t… what a crushing blow that was.

  819. Messy says:

    861. He had to recuse himself because he was involved in what was being investigated. That’s the policy of the Justice department and has been since it was founded in the 19th century.

    Yes there has been lots of partisan tripe over the Stormy/Russia scandals, but the people doing the investigating are all either Republicans or non-partisan professionals.

    Trump’s proposed “Mafia protection act of 2018” (flipping should be illegal) is NOT anything a supporter of law and order would support.

    862 “…unless of course the republican party decides to merge with the democrat party.”

    There is no such thing as “the Democrat party.” There are no candidates running on “the Democrat party” ticket. “The Democrat party” has no elected officials anywhere in the United States nor has any organization anywhere in this great country of ours.

    However, there is a similarly named DemocratIC party

  820. jason says:

    I see Messy is still an ignorant moron, nothing has changed here.

  821. jason says:

    LOL

    Was he telling the truth?” Davis was asked during the “Skullduggery” interview about Cohen’s previous testimony to the Senate.

    “He was telling the truth, but there’s a problem in some of the words used there,” Davis replied.

  822. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag and Messy have EXACTLY the same talking points.

    No, it’s not a coincidence.

    They have the same sources.

  823. jason says:

    “He was telling the truth, but there’s a problem in some of the words used there,” Davis replied

    This is my new favorite moonbat quote.

  824. NYCmike says:

    https://warontherocks.com/2018/08/the-pastor-is-not-the-only-u-s-hostage-in-turkey/

    -Robbie, jason, etc to blame Trump for being an isolationist and anti-NATO in 3…..2……1……

  825. NYCmike says:

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/403326-trump-no-action-on-criminal-justice-reform-before-midterms

    “”Trump said he opposes the idea of letting opioid traffickers get early release to home confinement or halfway houses, and he opposes reducing the mandatory minimum sentences for those offenses,” the official said, requesting anonymity to discuss private conversations.

    Trump’s decision came amid a huddle with Attorney General Jeff Sessions and senior adviser Jared Kushner at the White House.”

  826. jason says:

    Alleged Intruder Shot After Breaking Into Home With ‘Smith & Wesson’ Sign Outside”

    This is why I keep telling Messy to get an education.

    It avoids these types of mistakes.

  827. jason says:

    Robbie, jason, etc to blame Trump for being an isolationist and anti-NATO in 3…..2……1……”

    Trump IS an isolationist and IS anti-Nato.

    And I see NYC is engaging in character assassination by lumping me in with Amoral Scumbag.

  828. jason says:

    Phil says:
    August 23, 2018 at 6:37 pm

    Sometimes I think Messy is living on another planet.”

    When you are that ignorant it probably feels like another planet.

  829. mnw says:

    46/53 today

  830. NYCmike says:

    “And I see NYC is engaging in character assassination by lumping me in with Amoral Scumbag.”

    -Need to make sure those big breakfasts you eat don’t cloud your brain up any more than it is.

  831. dblaikie says:

    If the GOP retains control of the Senate all this Russian junk and bimbo payoffs will be history by Christmas. Jeff Sessions and Rosenstein won’t last beyond November 10.

    Silly me I was concentrating on the House and Impeachment, but I forgot my civics and Bill Clinton, let the house do what it will — It is only the Senate that can unseat a President.

    By the way I stand by my prediction: a gain of 3 seats in the house. By my prediction has gone up in the Senate to 4. Heller is going to win in Nevada (my home state) because of Rosen’s claims about the Casino shooting. Also wins in Missouri, Florida, and Indiana. Heck this will go to five or six with the news out of Minnesota and New Jersey. And we haven’t even mentioned W. Virginia and North Dakota. My goodness if we can hold in Tennessee and Arizona we could be up to 6 or 7. Let the Senate roll.

  832. Robbie says:

    Uh-oh.

    The redoubts surrounding Fort Trump are falling one by one. Cohen, Pecker, and now his CFO Weisselberg.

    Rebecca Ballhaus
    @rebeccaballhaus

    NEWS: Allen Weisselberg, Trump’s longtime financial gatekeeper and the CFO of the Trump Organization, was granted immunity by federal prosecutors in New York for providing information about Michael Cohen in the criminal investigation. w/@nicole_hong

  833. Robbie says:

    John McCain announces he will no longer receive treatment for brain cancer.

    Sad news.

    I wonder if President Douche Bag will continue to attack him in his rallies for voting against skinny repeal.

  834. CG says:

    I hope Senator McCain’s final days are peaceful and he is aware of the gratitude America has for him.

  835. Tgca says:

    I have strong mixed feelings about McCain. He suffered greatly as a POW and for that, we owe him great respect for his service. As a man and politician, he has been petty, vindictive, self-serving, grudge-holding, isolating of many in the GOP, and often supportive to the GOP on the big items and traitorous to the GOP on other important issues.

    Like many in the GOP, I think they will reflect on his service with respect but glad he’s no longer around as a politician.

    That’s my prepared eulogy. Not sure if he would be so fond of it though but it’s the best I can give. Not sure if I would get a much better eulogy myself by some here.

  836. Bitterlaw says:

    Don’t die any time soon, Tgca. Stay Fabulous.

    Did you check out the real estate link I posted? There are many options within a half hour from Center City.

  837. jason says:

    Tgca, too bad you can’t be a little more gracious in your fake eulogy. Sounds like you are the one who is vindictive, petty, and self serving.

    The fact you can’t let go that he didn’t agree with your 100% litmus test requirements says a lot more about your character than his.

    “Traitorous” and McCain should never be words associated with one another.

    And speak for yourself about being glad he is no longer around as politicians. We could do with a lot more John McCains, not less.

  838. jason says:

    John McCain is a decorated war hero, tortured and maimed and held prisoner in a hell hole while serving his country.

    He has also had a distinguished career in public service, serving his constituents with great honor for 35 years as an AZ congressman and senator.

    Those that wish to sully that record with comments like “traitorous”, “petty”, “vindictive”, blah, blah, blah, go right ahead.

    Show how petty and vindictive you are.

  839. jason says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    August 23, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    Sessions made the decision to recuse himself. I defer to his judgement.”

    I don’t. It was a huge mistake, and a result of the usual momentary fake MSM headlines about Russian collusion, “meetings” with Russian ambassador, etc. He should have known better than recuse himself under that kind of pressure.

    As a result, we have a runaway rogue IC investigation that never ends, basically a fishing expedition throwing mud on the wall to see what sticks.

    Huge mistake, and I said it at the time.

  840. Jeff G. says:

    Democrat Party

    Democrat Party

    Democrat Party

    Democrat Party.

    GFY, Messy.

  841. Todd McCain says:

    There aren’t 67 votes to remove DJT; this is all a waste of time and money.

    Yes, I love John McCain. Great man; but judging his senate record negatively shouldn’t be associated with his war service which we all admire.

  842. Tgca says:

    Sorry Jason but many in the GOP I know feel similar about McCain. We respect his POW status but have reservations about his political service and behavior.

    As for his suffering, no one is taking that away from him. That I made clear. But suffering extreme physically and emotionally does not mean that can excuse how others feel about his political service and actions later in life.

    I grew up with numerous people who suffered extreme physically and emotionally to the point it changed their life forever as well, and not in a good way. People that were beaten to the point of broken bones and blood and stitches as children or so emotionally abused they turned out badly in life, even criminally or mentally challenged.

    I knew girls raped and preyed upon as children by their mothers boyfriends. I myself had my head split open when I was five years old by a mean angry stepfather. Like many others, I’ve had my face banged against the floor and the wall as a young child, or kicked repeatedly like a dog while on the floor in a fetal position or beaten with belts, chains, and extension cords or burned wth cigarettes or having knives and sharp objects thrown at me or glass bottles smashed into the head or forced to bare hours in physical standing or kneeling positions not meant for humans or tied to chairs and ridiculed or locked in closets and basements with rodents and bugs.

    But I don’t go around suggesting that because I was abused and physically tortured at times that I get an excuse card for my behavior as an adult. If I’m a jerk at times as an adult, I should be called on it and not excused because I had a horrific childhood.

    I had a cousin so physically and emotionally abused that he ended up being equivalent to mental slowness and mild retardation due to repeatedly being severely beaten in the head as a young child and spent his life in and out of foster homes and institutions.

    So please don’t tell me that I don’t know about physical and emotional abuse or I don’t have compassion for people severely physically and emotionally abused. Extreme abuse is abuse, and I don’t try to quantify whether somebody’s extreme abuse is greater than another’s. To me, a young child extremely abused as outlined above regularly for years is not significantly different to them than trained grown servicemen suffering in POW camps in some situations.

    One can both be physically and emotionally abused and be a jerk to some people later in life. Both can be true!

    So I say with hugs and kisses…GFY!!!

  843. Tgca says:

    …and for the record, where I come from, there are many instances where extremely abused children ended up in an early grave or maimed for life.

    Many were lucky to escape their childhood abusers while others were not. Some went on to be heinous and violent criminals. I grew up with a few of these that ended up in jail for murder or killed themselves.

  844. Chicon says:

    Tgca with the hammer. Well said, and congratulations on how you’ve adjusted to what you’ve been through.

    890 – some on this board have trouble with the concept you stated well. Both can be true.

  845. Mr.Vito says:

    When I see John McCain with that dumbass grin on his face as he bathes in cheers while campaigning for Obamacare repeal, I feel like vomiting.

    If that makes me a bad person, I’ll sleep just fine.

    I hoped he could beat the cancer.

  846. mnw says:

    Whenever the thread heads in this direction, it’s a good time for me to stay out of it. I DID vote for the man in 2008 in the GE– the hardest vote I ever cast.

    That colors my view of anyone who says, “I can’t vote for this or that GOP nominee.” Yes you can, if I could vote for him.

  847. Blobbie says:

    Trump colluded with russia

    I can already say with certainty that there will be up to 67 votes to remove him …

  848. Blobbie says:

    Trump colluded with russia

    I can already say with certainty that there will be up to 67 votes to remove him …

  849. Chicon says:

    Blobbie stutters….

  850. Tgca says:

    To make it clear. I voted and supported Mac during 2008. He was not my ideal candidate but I supported him and I truly believe one of the reasons he lost in 2008 or did not come closer to the Obama results was because his past fighting with many in the GOP came back to haunt him. I believe many conservatives stayed home because they could not enthusiastically support him. That does not mean if they all came out he would have won the election because I also think Obama‘s election was more of an anomaly because he was the first AA man to run for office and that in itself, along with Bush fatigue, generated great enthusiasm in the minority and younger demographics voting for Obama.

  851. dblaikie says:

    John McCain was a great man. And like all great men, he had great courage, great strength, and, yes, great flaws. That is not being ugly in any way. The same truth was with Winston Churchill and Ronald Reagan. Senator McCain was a champion for the military and a true hero. But he also was a person who became a creature of the establishment. On the whole I am grateful for his service in the Air Force and as a public servant.

    In the last days of his life may he say the things he needs to say to his loved ones. And may God Bless him as he crosses his own Jordan.

  852. dblaikie says:

    By the way our nation is going through the greatest fishing expedition in our history. Using a bogus wrong interpretation of a campaign finance law they are handing out immunity like candy — hoping beyond hope that something will stick.

  853. Blobbie says:

    The way you Trumpsters support our Democratically elected president is disgusting!

    We need to impeach Trump and Pence once the Democrats have taken over the House!

    All true Scotsmen — I mean Republicans, support impeaching Trump and Pence and making Pelosi president. Then she can make Hillary Vice President and resign!

    I predict this is possible!

  854. Redmen4ever says:

    McCain’s book, Faith of my fathers, is SO MUCH better than the movie.

  855. mnw says:

    Balderson (R) wins OH-12 by 1680 votes. There’re no more votes left to count, & that does NOT trigger an automatic recount.

    Election night trolls hardest hit.

  856. CG says:

    Firstly, nobody of any political stripe would be expected to have agreed with every vote cast by John McCain or every position he took. I certainly had enough disagreements to support other primary candidates both times he ran for President. Nonetheless, his overall record is a conservative one and it’s not a close call. Those on the left have far more to have disagreed with him on than those on the right.

    Nobody who claims to be a conservative should get a pass for saying they had to “force” themselves to vote for John McCain over Barack Obama in 2008. As imperfect of a candidate as he was, that should not have been a difficult decision at all. A far harder decision was for those 8 years later who had to decide whether or not they could vote for a piece of human garbage like Donald J. Trump. Many conservatives choose different options when faced with that.

    Next, nobody has claimed, least of whom McCain himself, that he has lived a perfect life or has not made public and private mistakes. He speaks of his failings in a way that nobody else in modern politics does. Nobody has claimed that he has not sometimes demonstrated personality traits or human frailties that have not served him well.

    If honest, very few people, in any walk of life, would deny they had them too, except I suppose for the current President who sees himself as perfection personified.

    It is fine to disagree with votes cast by McCain or statements he has made, but the claim that somehow he has “betrayed” anyone or has been “petty” or “self-serving” is totally without merit. He has acted, rightly or wrongly, in a way consistent with his own conscience and his own sense of putting greater causes above his own self-interest. To claim otherwise, which of course has nothing to do with agreeing with him, and attack his motives or his character, especially at the end of his life, just because Donald J. Trump insults him regularly, and you feel the need to reflexively defend Trump on each and every matter, against anyone who may ever dare to disagree with him, is pretty wrong.

    I think Mitt Romney said it well today, “No man this century better exemplifies honor, patriotism, service, sacrifice, and country first than Senator John McCain. His heroism inspires, his life shapes our character.”

  857. Mr.Vito says:

    “To claim otherwise, which of course has nothing to do with agreeing with him, and attack his motives or his character, especially at the end of his life, just because Donald J. Trump insults him regularly, and you feel the need to reflexively defend Trump on each and every matter, against anyone who may ever dare to disagree with him, is pretty wrong.”

    The people who say these things said them long before Trump was in the picture.

  858. Chicon says:

    905 – Nice post, cg.

  859. CG says:

    Maybe they did on Daily Kos, but not on HHR.

    Unless you mean bunu.

  860. Mr.Vito says:

    “Maybe they did on Daily Kos, but not on HHR.”

    Nice try. They have been denigrating him since at least 2008.

  861. Mr.Vito says:

    which you pointed out yourself…

  862. CG says:

    Yeah, the left has. I have been opposed to and fighting against the left nearly all my life.

    It look DJT for me to understand just how lousy so many people on the right turned out to be as well.

  863. CG says:

    The specific claims that he is bitter or “petty” or acts out a personal grudge, or things of that nature seem to strictly come from Trumpworld related to the events of the last three years.

  864. Mr.Vito says:

    “… he is bitter or “petty” or acts out a personal grudge…”

    I recall hearing these things going back to the Bush primary… and even the Keating Five.

    Maybe you just need more contacts.

  865. CG says:

    I don’t recall that at all. Keating Five was a bit before my time, but I know of, and do not even see a connection.

    It’s always been said that he has a bad temper.

  866. Mr.Vito says:

    New game… six degrees of Trump.

    Connect everything you hate to being Trump’s fault in six steps or less.

  867. Mr.Vito says:

    Mr.Bitter can start with diabetes.

  868. Mr.Vito says:

    Have fun.

  869. CG says:

    An alternative game would be “Trump didn’t kill JonBenet.”

    Whatever else he may have done or lied or about or anything else, the economy is decent and he DID NOT kill JonBenet! #witchhunt

  870. CG says:

    While he had absolutely no role in her murder, had she grown up to be a teen beauty contestant in a pageant owned by him, Trump, based on his own statements, would have enjoyed barging in on her undressed backstage.

    What a guy!

  871. Mr.Vito says:

    See? Fun. Bet you can’t beat Corey.

  872. Tgca says:

    CG 905

    Agree on some points but disagree with you on 3 points.

    1st, one can have an opinion they won’t vote for someone under any circumstances and still be politically loyal. I voted for Mac but I can understand those that are conservative and refused to vote for him just like some refused to vote for Bush or Trump but are still loyal to GOP or conservatism.

    2nd, many felt strongly about Mac going back years, as far back as the 2000 election so this is not about comparing him to Trump.

    3rd, many of us believe Mac has behaved vindictively, petty, and selflishly over the years in his political career at times. That does not take away from his military service but you can’t say just because you believe he is a hero his later behavior can’t be questioned by others. People have written about his behavior at varying levels for 2+ decades and many conservatives, including veterans, especially in some southern states have not been a big supporter of him over the years because of this behavior.

    That being said, I just have great conflict with him but I will always have compassion for his personal POW experiences. But his reversal of his promised vote on Obamacare still is fresh in my mind and frustrates me enormously. That vote hurt the country IMO, and as someone who was his constituent in AZ at one point, that is politically unforgivable, at least at this point but maybe as time passes, I’ll be more forgiving. Who knows? I’m not a perfect person. 🙂

  873. CG says:

    1. I wasn’t suggesting otherwise, but yes, I refused to vote for Trump as a loyal conservative Republican. The objection to McCain would not have been as stark though.

    2. What specific example, unrelated to Trump, is evidence of it. What qualifies beyond a disagreement with a vote or position. How has he been “petty” in t hose circumstances and when was he accused?

    3. He voted on skinny repeal precisely the way he said he would. (and he was urged to vote that way by Gov. Ducey of AZ…. fwiw Flake voted the other way and a lot of you people hate him even more) No reversal at all. Had he voted yes, it would have failed in the House anyway because of the Freedom Caucus.

  874. CG says:

    Needless to say, being “petty and vindictive” is DJT refusing to acknowledge that the Defense bill had John McCain’s name on it, only to insult him at a rally hours later.

    Just about every politician in America has Tweeted some well-wish to the McCain Family today, but not DJT. Maybe he will be rise above it and say something after Melania talks to him? Should he?

  875. NYCmike says:

    “Yeah, the left has. I have been opposed to and fighting against the left nearly all my life.”

    -Until November 9, 2018.

    Then, you turned tail.

    Check out what President Trump’s cabinet is doing on a daily basis, if you can tear yourself away from the major media for an hour or so.

    And check out the judges being chosen.

    Those are the best antidotes to “the left” which you fight “so hard against”.

  876. NYCmike says:

    “Should he?”

    -He will probably call McCain personally, without telling anyone.

    If he was to publicly tweet, chumps like you would say it was only for public consumption, not because he really cares about him.

  877. NYCmike says:

    “I have been opposed to and fighting against the left nearly all my life.”

    That is why I am so pissed Trump beat Hillary.

    -Jebot

  878. CG says:

    To me, fighting against Trumpism and what it represents is just as important, and in many ways more so, than merely fighting against the left.

    It also just so happens that both are an affront to liberty.

    Your meter may vary.

  879. CG says:

    I seriously doubt he would ever call McCain personally. Seriously. If he ever does, I will acknowledge it. If he does, before it is too late, an apology for disparaging his war service should be the first words spoken.

  880. CG says:

    I am not pissed that Trump beat Hillary. I wouldn’t have been pissed if Hillary beat Trump.

    If I am pissed about anything, it is that our country has descended to the point where either is considered worthy of a single vote.

    Whomever would have won that horrid contest will ultimately have to face the consequences. That’s where this is headed.

  881. lisab says:

    mccain left his first wife after she was in a serious car accident

    and has called his second wife the c word in public

    yeah … a great guy /sarc

  882. CG says:

    Both of those things are untrue. Par for the course for lisab.

    The first Mrs. McCain had the car accident when he was in prison. He did not return for years later. They were married for several years when he returned before getting divorced. He has acknowledged his failings in his first marriage.

    Saying he called his wife the c word in public has to be straight from Daily Kos. Was it at a foam party too?

  883. NYCmike says:

    “If I am pissed about anything, it is that our country has descended to the point where either is considered worthy of a single vote.”

    -Trump was never elected to political office before running for President……..the country must have been running perfectly without a scumbag like him being involved……for example, let’s look at how the 2 Bush Presidencies handled domestic and foreign policy……they must have been wonderful examples of LIMITED GOVERNMENT.

    As for Hillary, we know her philosophy about government…..the more the merrier she is…..screw the rest of us (see Venezuela model).

  884. CG says:

    David Bote for President!

  885. NYCmike says:

    “and has called his second wife the c word in public”

    -“champ”? “cookie”? “chupacabra”?

  886. CG says:

    The C word being “Cindy.” We know how lisab operates on here…

  887. mnw says:

    The DEM running against Duncan Hunter is a real horror show freak. Medicare for all; grandson of a Munich terrorist. The left has found a new love toy. And we thought that idiot airhead from the Bronx was bad.

  888. NYCmike says:

    I do have to wonder about this:

    Do “CG” and Robbie believe that Trump’s actions/behavior BEFORE becoming President are worse than the actions/behavior taken by Barack Obama WHILE he was President?

  889. Tina says:

    Does the Clinton Groupie have a manifesto?

  890. NYCmike says:

    What’s better than laughing once?

    Laughing twice! Ha Ha!

  891. lisab says:

    He has acknowledged his failings in his first marriage.
    ———–

    yet cg claims it is untrue

    it is exactly true

  892. Tina says:

    ws
    Follow
    Sen. @tedcruz’s challenger @BetoORourke dinged for saying ‘nothing more American’ than kneeling during the anthem. fxn.ws/2NfxSpV
    1:16 PM – 23 Aug 2

    More Beta please.

    More Lanny too.

  893. NYCmike says:

    https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/08/24/damn-son-dana-loesch-takes-riveras-attorney-apart-for-insisting-hes-just-an-all-american-boy/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

    -According to “CG” and Robbie, Trump is worse than the inaction taken by his predecessors which allowed this illegal to commit the act he may have committed.

  894. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    If you go beyond Trump’s personal issues, his policies have been very good. He economic policies (which polls have shown voter approval), and his taking on the entrenched bureaucracy, have been successful. There is a lot to criticize him on, but a lot the anger at him is he stopped the nation from being taken down the leftist, socialist road that Obama had begun to travel.

  895. Robbie says:

    Good job everyone. Good job.

    The Hill
    @thehill

    JUST IN: Trump met with promoter of “QAnon” conspiracy theory in Oval Office http://hill.cm/HbMFlOI

  896. Tina says:

    Good job Jebots

    Pink tutu Sinema.

  897. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    August 24, 2018 at 6:39 pm
    https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/08/24/damn-son-dana-loesch-takes-riveras-attorney-apart-for-insisting-hes-just-an-all-american-boy/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

    -According to “CG” and Robbie, Trump is worse than the inaction taken by his predecessors which allowed this illegal to commit the act he may have committed.

    – Yawn.

    Also, I remember when Dana Loesch was a NeverTrumper, but then she was hired by the NRA and she became and AlwayTrumper. Just another fraud with situational ethics.

  898. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    937. “The DEM running against Duncan Hunter is a real horror show freak. Medicare for all; grandson of a Munich terrorist. The left has found a new love toy. And we thought that idiot airhead from the Bronx was bad.”

    The Democratic candidate favored in the primary was Josh Butner. A former Navy Seal, he likely would have been elected over Hunter easily after the indictment. Instead the leftists got a crazy nominated, and Hunter stands a good chance of winning.

    Same situation with the Issa seat. The Democratic candidate who could have won did not make it out of the primary. Republican Harkey has a good chance of winning.

  899. Tina says:

    More Lann Davis

    Davis admits that he lied to cnn. He was a “source” to a news report that trump had advanced knowledge of the trump tower meeting.

    Cohen admits that he lied to cnn.

    Fake news will not retract the report.

  900. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    948. “Good job Jebots Pink tutu Sinema.”

    Why are you blaming the Jetbots for Sinema? She is a Democrat. The Republican who is challenging her, McSally, is the one who ran the devastating add which got her the name “pink tutu Sinema”.

  901. NYCmike says:

    ” Just another fraud with situational ethics.”

    -Ethics?

    I thought we were speaking about politics?

  902. Tina says:

    God job in terms of the Jebots running her.

  903. Tina says:

    And the me it’s were pimping Sinema as the next coming.

    You know Muh blue wave.

  904. NYCmike says:

    Ethics – how ethical does “the left” that “CG” fights SO HARD AGAINST think that Bush and Reagan are? The media (part of “the left”) portrayed them as monsters, racists, corrupt old-white-guys.

    Trump is their newest target. Until you learn that plain fact, you are not fighting “the left” at all, you are aiding and abetting their efforts to delegitimize the person who won the last Presidential election fair and square.

  905. Bitterlaw says:

    Petty and vindictive are two of my most admired traits. I’m Irish. GFY.

  906. Bitterlaw says:

    I hope that John McCain goes peacefully without pain. I also hope his final words are “GFY, Trump” but I can’t expect to get two wishes come true.

  907. lisab says:

    BREAKING: U.S. State Department announces it has canceled $200 million in aid to the Palestinians, money will be redirected elsewhere.

  908. lisab says:

    Democrats have filed articles of impeachment on every Republican President for the last 40 YEARS (GWB no less than 35 times)

  909. lisab says:

    #NBC Writer, Taylor Cox: “the only anxiety I have about white extinction is that it’s not happening faster”

  910. Tina says:

    Who is this max boot?

    Calling for military type coups and praising socialists, much like the socialist on the Lido Deck.

  911. Tina says:

    Trump did not win the election “fair and square.”

    Hillary should be President.

    -Jebot

  912. jason says:

    I think Mitt Romney said it well today, “No man this century better exemplifies honor, patriotism, service, sacrifice, and country first than Senator John McCain. His heroism inspires, his life shapes our character.”

    Perfect.

  913. Tgca says:

    965

    Those are just words. Does Mitt ever really mean what he says. Now I could see Lindsay saying those wiords with meaning.

    I could see you saying those same words about Robbie.

  914. jason says:

    I see Tgca wants to justify his classless and despicable “eulogy” by making it about himself instead of McCain.

    Oh, and we can add “jerk” to his collection of terms to describe McCain that further debase and diminish him.

  915. jason says:

    First, a tape of Trump referring to blacks as the n-word would end his disgraceful presidency.”

    Amoral Scumbag has the moral compass of a floating turd, but occasionally just by the law of averages he does say something that resembles the truth.

    Here he admits what we all know since the beginning, that’s its about overturning the results of the election by any means possible.

  916. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca is from New Jersey. So am I. We are blunt. Romney’s statement about McCain was excellent and accurate.

  917. Wes says:

    Martha McSally has a new ad out painting Kyrsten Sinema as a radical peacenik complete with pink outfit while McSally and others were battling the Taliban.

    This accomplishes two things:

    1) It helps undermine Sinema’s carefully crafted image as a moderate.

    2) It shores up McSally’s military Nona fides in a state where vet status plays well.

    I like how aggressive McSally is. She has an excellent shot of beating Sinema.

    For their part, the Sinema camp calls the ad “desperate.” Of course they would, having no other argument against it.

  918. Wes says:

    Bona* fides

  919. Bitterlaw says:

    Disgraceful Presidency? Robbie just can’t grasp the simple concept that Trump is a disgraceful, amoral dirtbag who is President but he has not done anything disgraceful AS President.

  920. Wes says:

    That explains your fetish for places exclusively electing corrupt Democrats, Bitter.

  921. Tgca says:

    Oh please. I was rebutting your claims that because Mac suffered great emotional and physical pain that he should otherwise be excused to do anything he wants in life that others are not excused for. That seems to be the implication you make often with him and I don’t buy it because it’s a narrow way to view the world. More kids suffer extreme emotional and physical abuse in the ghetto or in rotten families daily under horrific situations but you could care less and don’t excuse their behavior when they behave unacceptably.

    Like I said before, and many agree in the GOP, Mac served his country honorably but he also acted in ways over the years that showed him to be petty, vindictive, selfish, self-promoting, and often a jerk. If you have a hard-on for Mac and can’t accept that he can be those things and a good soldier than that’s your inability to be fair in judging his character. Many soldiers have been heroes or POWs but behaved unwelcoming in their personal lives. That’s my point and if you don’t like that…GFY. …and I say that with hugs and kisses of course.

  922. Bitterlaw says:

    I like cities and being close to the Atlantic. Politics has nothing to do with it.

    What explains your fetish for emotionally damaged sluts, Wes?

  923. Tgca says:

    Personally, I have come to dislike Mac over the years more and more. But I would be the 1st to thank him for his service or show him compassion for his suffering. Why can’t both be acceptable?

    …and for the record, what we say here about a political or celebrity figure is not something we would say to them on their dying bed. Having an opinion on someone and verbalizing to them or their family when they are at the low point of pain and suffering are two different things.

  924. Wes says:

    Regardless of the women I date, I don’t actively try to live under the rule of a bunch of overtly corrupt moon bats who want to tax and regulate me into oblivion to provide freebies for the dregs of society.

    You’re clearly a masochist.

  925. Bitterlaw says:

    Long time poster and A-hole Brandon is getting married today. I did not see any invitations at the. Lubhouse. Maybe MD stole them.

  926. Wes says:

    Congrats to Brandon.

  927. Tgca says:

    …and Bitter is right. One can be blunt but rational in their characterizations.

    At least Bitter acknowledges he is petty and vindictive but he forgot mention bitter too!

    When my time comes, I expect people to say besides being an awesome stud, I was an obnoxious, foul-mouthed, aggravating, in your face, annoying jerk. I accept that! It is what it is.

  928. Tina says:

    Breaking News

    The Fib only looked at 3,000 out of 700,000 emails on Weiners laptop before clearing her thighness.

    Pius Comedy testified that all emails were looked at “thanks to wonderful, new technology.”

  929. Bitterlaw says:

    I live in Pennsylvania. I can afford to live here regardless of who is Governor. The GOP controls the legislature. I did like living in Philadelphia but not because of politics.

    My brother lived in Raleigh for 4 years. He said outside the business district it was a dump. People in glass houses shouldn’t do what, Wes?

  930. jason says:

    rs that showed him to be petty, vindictive, selfish, self-promoting, and often a jerk.”

    Wow, Tgca is a petty, vindictive, selfish, self promoting jerk who can’t get over that John McCain didn’t always vote the way Tgca wanted him too.

    Pathetic and sad.

    But hey, if insulting McCain on his deathbed for your petty and vindictive reasons makes you feel like a such a big man, by all means keep doing it.

    Like I said before, it says a hell of a lot more about your character than it does his.

  931. Tina says:

    The amoral scumbag also,provided an incomplete tweet about the trump CF0 having immunity,

    The immunity pertained solely to his testimony against Cohen.
    The immunity was given months ago.

    And despite this nonsense about ndas or hush money, if you recall, when the Cohen investigation was launched, Redactstein specifically indicated that it did not involve Trump.

    Go back to Redactsteins remarks.

  932. Tgca says:

    983

    Oh, that’s an easy one to answer. People in glass houses should not run around naked. Right?

  933. jason says:

    Congrats Brandon, I am happy you found a woman willing to marry an A-hole.

  934. Wes says:

    I don’t and won’t live in Raleigh. It has too many Bitterlaws for me. Of course I also haven’t said I intend to live in a place filled with corrupt moonbats even if they tax me at 100%. That means unlike you, I’m no one’s bitch.

  935. jason says:

    Btw, McCain’s mom, who supposedly is in good health at 106, has been told her son is gravely ill.

  936. Tina says:

    That is the Moab of all ads on Sinema the Socialist, Wes.

    Then Beta of tax, steps in it.

  937. Wes says:

    Bitter either forgets or doesn’t know a big reason Raleigh and Charlotte are the way they are is that other Northeasterners sharing his fetish for graft and corruption move there and vote for the same kinds of pols they supported up north.

    Exactly, Bitter. People in glass houses.

  938. Tgca says:

    984

    Ha! Enough folks already say things about Macs character for decades that you don’t like so I’m not unique in that regard. That’s why you got your panties in a bunch this AM. Get over it. Mac served honorably and did good things in his life but was a real POS at times. That’s my view of him. You no like…GFY!

    …and if you want to set an example, perhaps you could start with saying positive things about Robbie and NYC. Go ahead big guy! Show us all how to be of great character today.

  939. jason says:

    Oh please. I was rebutting your claims that because Mac suffered great emotional and physical pain that he should otherwise be excused to do anything he wants in life that others are not excused for”

    Zzzzzzz….

    I never made such a claim.

    But thanks for making that crap up. We can always use a little fiction on a slow Saturday morning.

  940. Tina says:

    More Lanny Davis

    “I admit to being the source to cnn falsely claiming that trump had advanced knowledge of (the coup plotters such as Natalie -editorial remark added by me) of the trump tower meeting.

    Again Jebots, please explain why Natalia got a special visa. Why did she meet before and after with Glenn Simpson of Fusion?

    Why was the trump transition team moved out of trump tower and to the nj golf course?

    Please do answer with Seth Rich, pizza port, whataboutism, my attorney got atrrested, and other deflection.

  941. Wes says:

    McCain is a war hero. In Congress he was an egotistical showboater concerned primarily with his own celebrity.

    I wish him peace and calm in his final days.

  942. Tina says:

    Day 3 and cn and n has not corrected the false story abut trump having advanced knowledge of Natalia’s meeting at trump tower.

    They refuse to correct even though Lanny has told them that he lied (imagine a Climton lawyah lying) about it.

  943. Robbie says:

    Every time you think Trump can’t sink any lower, he does. There is no bottom with this scumbag.

    Josh Dawsey
    @jdawsey1

    Trump has told White House aides he does not regret saying McCain is not a war hero. He tells advisers that McCain has a vendetta against him and that he wishes he’d step down. He doesn’t plan to say a laudatory word about the ailing senator.

  944. jason says:

    nd if you want to set an example, perhaps you could start with saying positive things about Robbie and NYC.”

    Sure thing.

    Amoral Scumbag is the finest regurgitator of fake left wing news in the history of HHR.

    When it comes to Trump, nobody can apply a double standard better than NYC, nobody.

  945. Tgca says:

    Well, I hope Macs mom doesn’t visit HHR today but of course we have compassion for her and his family. You can dislike someone but have compassion for their suffering, at least I can.

    Besides, the guy is not dead yet so perhaps we should not be rushing his demise. Who knows? He may stick around a bit more. My stepdad stuck around months with his cancer after they gave up on him.

  946. Tgca says:

    998

    Uh…NO!

    You can do much better than that Jason. Try again please. Show Robbie and NYC some love.

  947. Wes says:

    Exactly, Tg.

  948. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 25, 2018 at 10:02 am
    nd if you want to set an example, perhaps you could start with saying positive things about Robbie and NYC.”
    Sure thing.
    Amoral Scumbag is the finest regurgitator of fake left wing news in the history of HHR.

    – And allow me to point out Jason fraud is one of the finest examples on of an unprincipled hack we’ve ever seen.

    He hated Trump every day of the campaign, refused to vote for him, and left the party over him only to spend his every waking moment demanding members of the party he quit over Trump support Trump.

  949. Tina says:

    Rs doing very well in Az early voting.

    Up double digits.

  950. Wes says:

    Robbie’s been hoping Republicans would take it on the chin for not supporting JEB! for 2 1/2 years.

    Now that it might actually happen he’ll be more irrational than ever.

  951. Tgca says:

    993

    I never said you made such a claim. I specifically stated that is the implication, meaning it appears you feel that way. So brush up on your reading comprehension please. Thank you!

  952. Tina says:

    Floridaguy has posts about the early voting in Florida,

    Rs are reaching and in some cases exceeding 2014 turnout.

    Ds are missing their targets.

    Muh blue wave.

  953. Tgca says:

    995

    Agreed Wes.

    …and for the record, I also wish Mac a peaceful passing when it’s his time. But let’s not rush it!

    I would never wish to see him suffer anymore emotionally or physically than he already has.

  954. Tina says:

    3rd Quarter Gdp estimated at 4.6 percent.

  955. Tgca says:

    1002

    Awww. Robbie and Jason set aside differences for an appreciative Hug.

    I’m glad I could be part of this joyful moment. My eyes are swelling with tears and my nose is sniffling…time to take a Zyrtec…damn allergies.

  956. Tgca says:

    1008

    Tina

    Good news. The Obama economy is humming along just fine.

  957. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    August 25, 2018 at 9:27 am
    Disgraceful Presidency? Robbie just can’t grasp the simple concept that Trump is a disgraceful, amoral dirtbag who is President but he has not done anything disgraceful AS President.

    – The manner in which Trump has conducted himself has absolutely been disgraceful. Here are just a few examples.

    -He has used his position as president spread conspiracy theories like Obama wiretapped him.

    -He has used his Twitter feed to mock and attack private citizens.

    -He stoked racial division with his comments about Charlottesville by claiming there were good people among the pro-Nazi marchers.

    -He supported a Senate candidate, good ole Roy, who was credibly accused of molesting young girls.

    -He referred to African nations as s-hole countries.

    -He fired his Secretary of State unceremoniously on Twitter.

    -He repeatedly lies about everything, big or small.

    Simply because Republicans passed a tax cut or Trump nominated judges conservatives like doesn’t balance out the disgraceful behavior and actions of the past 18 months.

    If his behavior as president hasn’t been disgraceful, what would qualify as disgraceful? Mocking a reporter on Twitter for her facelift?

  958. Tina says:

    Tgca, as are the Obama unemployment numbers

  959. Tina says:

    More economic stats.

    Ryan Fournier
    @RyanAFournier
    Follow
    President Trump Job Approval: 50% Unemployment: 3.9% Jobs added: 3.2 million Deficit: $532 billion GDP: 4.1% President Obama Job Approval: 45% Unemployment: 9.4% Jobs Added: -2.9 million Deficit: $936 billion GDP: 1.6% This is what Making America Great Again means!
    6:58 AM – 25 Aug 2018

  960. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    August 25, 2018 at 10:10 am
    Robbie’s been hoping Republicans would take it on the chin for not supporting JEB! for 2 1/2 years.
    Now that it might actually happen he’ll be more irrational than ever.

    – Is this the best you’ve got, Wes? Seriously? You sound like the unprincipled hack, Jason fraud.

    In 2006, you had a very negative view of how that election would turn out. People here referred to you as “White Flag Wes”. Were you rooting for a loss because you were mad people didn’t hate GWB the way you did? I certainly didn’t think so.

  961. jason says:

    -He has used his Twitter feed to mock and attack private citizens.”

    LOL

    The lying, dishonest, biased, corrupt MSM is composed of “private citizens”.

    Amoral Scumbag is a joke.

    Bitter is correct, Trump has done nothing disgraceful while President, but of course Amoral Scumbag ignores his Presidency, he is still living in the 2016 primaries where Jeb! is the front runner.

  962. Tina says:

    Can we get an official ruling from justice as to whether congressional payouts of hush money are also campaign violations?

  963. Tina says:

    Does justice know the content of Weiners remaining emails?

    Does fib still have his laptop?

    Hopefully, they preserved it through their “wonderful technology.”

  964. jason says:

    -He has used his position as president spread conspiracy theories like Obama wiretapped him.

    Zzzzzzzzz….

    -He has used his Twitter feed to mock and attack private citizens.

    Kudos to him.

    -He stoked racial division with his comments about Charlottesville by claiming there were good people among the pro-Nazi marchers.

    He should have said there were bad people on both sides. And where were you when Obama “stoked racial divisions” for 8 years?

    -He supported a Senate candidate, good ole Roy, who was credibly accused of molesting young girls.”

    Actually, no, he supported his primary opponent. But thanks for sharing. Like me, he preferred Roy to the little Marxist turd.

    -He referred to African nations as s-hole countries.

    Zzzzzz…. is that worse than calling half the country deplorables or telling people they can keep their guns and religion?

    -He fired his Secretary of State unceremoniously on Twitter.

    Oh my goodness!

    -He repeatedly lies about everything, big or small.

    Not as much as you, Amoral Scumbag.

  965. jason says:

    Robbie’s been hoping Republicans would take it on the chin for not supporting JEB! for 2 1/2 years.”

    Exactly.

    It’s always about Jeb in the end.

  966. jason says:

    Mocking a reporter on Twitter for her facelift?”

    Reporter?

    LOL

    Mika is a fake journolist without an ounce of integrity or pride in her “profession”.

    She was engaged in a sordid, fake, and completely baseless campaign alleging Trump was somehow mentally incapacitated (which btw, you subscribed to).

    As such, she deserved anything Trump could say about her.

    I know, you hate the fact he uses Twitter to fight back against the fake news you love to regurgitate.

    You want the MSM to own 100% of the narrative.

  967. Tina says:

    It is always about Hillary in the end.

    Jebot

  968. Robbie says:

    It’s amazing to see the way Trumpism, a degenerative brain disease, has corrupted Jason fraud the unprincipled hack.

    Had Barak Obama called Megyn Kelly a dog on Twitter, Jason fraud would have gone crazy. Had Barak Obama mocked a woman for a face lift, Jason fraud would have blow his top. Had Barak Obama done any of the things Mad King Don has done, Jason fraud would be demanding Paul Ryan begin impeachment hearings.

    And oh by the way, had Barak Obama’s lawyer pleaded guilty to eight felony counts and claimed he committed a crime at the direction of and in coordination with President Obama, Jason fraud wouldn’t be able to even speak or type polysyllabic words right now.

    Strangely enough though, when Trump’s lawyer pleaded guilty to committing a crime he coordinated with and was directed to commit by Trump, not a peep from Jason fraud.

  969. Tina says:

    I actually lie even more than the Jebot

    – Clinton Groupie.

  970. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 25, 2018 at 10:38 am
    Robbie’s been hoping Republicans would take it on the chin for not supporting JEB! for 2 1/2 years.”
    Exactly.
    It’s always about Jeb in the end.

    – Whereas Jason fraud’s boy Marco Rubio has been taking it on the chin from Trump for the last 2.5 years, liking it, and asking for more all the while tweeting out Bible verses suggesting he doesn’t like Trump. So brave. So brave. Maybe they’ll build a monument to Marco Rubio’s political bravery next to the one commemorating Jason fraud’s bravery of being willing to stand up to Trump’s tariffs, but nothing else. Better yet, they can just open a Rubio resistance wing at the Smithsonian where they display the #neverTrump swag he sold on his website right next to the quote where he said it would be an honor to speak in favor of trump at the convention.

  971. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    August 25, 2018 at 10:49 am
    I actually lie even more than the Jebot
    – Clinton Groupie.

    – I actually believe Jack Posobiec was right about Pizzagate.

    Tinfoil Tina

  972. Tina says:

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  973. Phil says:

    Poor Mika. Boohoo

  974. jason says:

    Right on cue, Amoral Scumbag still trashing Rubio for daring to run against the “clear the field, suck up the money juggernaut” and then kicking his ass in what, 8 straight debates, and getting what, 40 times more delegates, and still having a career in politics while Jeb! sells guaca bowls?

    Okayyy….

    How did your “prediction” that Rubio would never run against Jeb work out, Amoral Scumbag. Are you still upset 17 other candidates thought Jeb was a sure loser too?

  975. Tina says:

    Well Mika and Joe Scarfarce do look horrible.

  976. Phil says:

    Knock it off, Tina. Joe and Mika is a beautiful love story. Don’t soil it.

  977. jason says:

    Had Barak Obama called Megyn Kelly a dog on Twitter, Jason fraud would have gone crazy.”

    Actually, at the time I was VERY critical of Trump’s comment, look it up.

    Contrary to you, I actually have a moral compass.

    When Trump deserves to be criticized, as in this instance, I will do so.

    As for Cohen, yawnnnn, I don’t believe Trump directed him to commit any “crime”. NDA’s are done all the time, wealthy people often pay to avoid negative publicity whether they are guilty of anything or not.

    GFY.

  978. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 25, 2018 at 11:06 am
    Poor Mika. Boohoo

    – And of course, Phil would have been, rightfully, outraged had Obama called Megyn Kelly a dog or mocked her for a facelift, but I guess it’s ok to let some things slide if the current president shares your policy views on certain subjects.

  979. Wobbles says:

    President Trump Job Approval: 50% Unemployment: 3.9% Jobs added: 3.2 million Deficit: $532 billion GDP: 4.1% President Obama Job Approval: 45% Unemployment: 9.4% Jobs Added: -2.9 million Deficit: $936 billion GDP: 1.6% This is what Making America Great Again means!”

    Who cares about any of that.

    Did you see what he said about Mika’s face?

  980. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 25, 2018 at 11:06 am
    Right on cue, Amoral Scumbag still trashing Rubio

    – When you wrote “right on cue”, I thought you were about to discuss your reflexive mention of “Jeb” any time I write things about Trump you don’t like or any time I write about how I currently see 2018 playing out.

  981. jason says:

    It’s really hilarious.

    Trump has appointed two conservatives to SCOTUS. Who will hopefully rule in favor of conservative principles for decades.

    Amoral Scumbag continues to talk about Mika’s face.

    It shows you how shallow, small minded and desperate the poor bastard is.

  982. Tina says:

    https://t.co/1tFx2SJnij

    Her thighness, money laundering of campaign monies.

  983. jason says:

    discuss your reflexive mention of “Jeb”

    LOL

    Said by the guy still attacking Rubio for kicking Jeb’s ass.

    Talk about “reflexive”.

  984. Tina says:

    Hey Phil, did you see what Beta of Texaa said about kneeling?

    More Beta

    More Lanny

    More Hogg.

  985. Wobbles says:

    Her thighness, money laundering of campaign monies.”

    Can we get back to Cohen? Or Mika?

    Thanks.

  986. Chicon says:

    Trump has accomplished the two most important thing to Robbie – tax cuts and SCOTUS – and Robbie still wishes Hillary had won. Trump Derangement Syndrome, Severe, with psychotic features.

  987. Bitterlaw says:

    There was no corruption in North Carolina or anywhere in the South until Northerners moved in? I don’t know whether to LOL or Zzzzzzzzzz Wes’ post.

  988. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 25, 2018 at 11:13 am
    Had Barak Obama called Megyn Kelly a dog on Twitter, Jason fraud would have gone crazy.”
    Actually, at the time I was VERY critical of Trump’s comment, look it up.
    Contrary to you, I actually have a moral compass.
    When Trump deserves to be criticized, as in this instance, I will do so.
    As for Cohen, yawnnnn, I don’t believe Trump directed him to commit any “crime”. NDA’s are done all the time, wealthy people often pay to avoid negative publicity whether they are guilty of anything or not.

    – At the time, Jason fraud was not very critical of Trump’s comment. Just hours after Trump tweeted that nasty, personal attack, here’s what Jason fraud had to say about it.

    jason says:
    June 29, 2017 at 10:16 am
    guess you’re ok with a president launching such a nasty and personal attack against someone”
    Yeah, I am ok with him attacking the MSM considering the attacks on him are much worse than anything he has tweeted.

    Yeah, very critical. Your first instinct was to defend Trump’s tweet. So brave.

    Even better though is Jason fraud claiming to have a moral compass. He hated Trump every day of the campaign, refused to vote for him, and left the party over him only to end up demanding those who remained in the party he left support Trump. What happened to change Jason fraud’s mind, Trump won. I think you’ve got your moral compass much too close to a magnet.

    Finally with Cohen, I assume you believe Cohen, in his guilty plea, actually committed perjury by saying Trump directed him to commit the crime since you don’t believe him? But in the very next breath, you will say Cohen is telling the truth when he says Trump didn’t know about the Trump Tower meeting in advance.

  989. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 25, 2018 at 11:19 am
    It’s really hilarious.
    Trump has appointed two conservatives to SCOTUS. Who will hopefully rule in favor of conservative principles for decades.

    – Both of whom we’d have gotten with Pence or another Republican, but without the drama, the corruption, and the investigations that will ultimately give control of the House to the Democrats.

    Faustian bargains never end well.

  990. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    August 25, 2018 at 11:23 am
    Trump has accomplished the two most important thing to Robbie – tax cuts and SCOTUS – and Robbie still wishes Hillary had won. Trump Derangement Syndrome, Severe, with psychotic features.

    – Chicon, the fake lurker, really knows how to lie. I never wanted Hillary to win and he should know that since he claimed to have lurked here for 12 years before you started posting in favor of Trump the moment he won.

    I’m glad Hillary didn’t win, but I’m also not happy Trump won because I knew he was unfit and his actions would lead to a terribly divisive presidency that would hurt Republicans electorally.

  991. Phil says:

    Sure, Jeb would have given us the same type of Supreme Court justices. W gave Harriet Myers and Bush the elder gave us Souter.

    You’re hilarious, Robbie. Yep, Jeb would have given us two solid conservative justices. Guaranteed, baby!

  992. Tina says:

    I am sad that trump won.

    It was Hillarys turn.

    The Russians helped Trump

    Jebot

  993. Robbie says:

    Since Jason fraud finally showed up, I want to repeat what I wrote earlier in the week about the n-word tape.

    I hope it exists and I hope it is released soon. Why? First, it will end Trump’s presidency. Second, nothing will give me a better laugh than watching Jason fraud and the rest of the Trump apologists try to defend Trump’s comment by saying something stupid like “well, he didn’t say them when he was president so it’s ok”.

  994. Tina says:

    I was also called a dog by trump.

    -Quittens

  995. Tina says:

    I have called for both the Russian hoax and an n word tape.
    I also fallen for cnn.

    Jebot

  996. Phil says:

    Yeah, Tina. I told you who Beto was. I’ll give the guy this – he’s running as who he is – a complete leftist. At least he’s an honest moonbat. LOL

  997. Tina says:

    I am glad that a judge and jury have convicted trump for campaign violations.

    Jebot, Esq.

  998. Chicon says:

    1044 – this just in, and not fake news, it was Trump v. Clinton in the general. One was going to win. You didn’t want Trump to win. This would mean Clinton would win. So…

  999. Tina says:

    Honest moon bat, much like ca senator, Eric Holder 2.0.

  1000. Tina says:

    I do not know the difference between a plea and a conviction.

    I also do not know what a stock is.

    -Jebot

  1001. Tina says:

    Hmm,

    I have a choice to vote for Frankenstein, senator for China, or De Leon.

    Wtf.

  1002. mnw says:

    Can’t see the posters because of the trolls.

    Troll, troll, troll your boat.

  1003. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 25, 2018 at 11:43 am
    Sure, Jeb would have given us the same type of Supreme Court justices. W gave Harriet Myers and Bush the elder gave us Souter.
    You’re hilarious, Robbie. Yep, Jeb would have given us two solid conservative justices. Guaranteed, baby!

    – It’s disappointing to watch this from you. You never would have excused any of this behavior had it come from Obama.

    As for this canard you continue to push about Jeb, I’ve repeatedly told you Jeb mentioned in 2015 Gorsuch as the type of justice he would like to appoint. And Kavanaugh was his brother’s staff secretary and an establishment darling. You hate the establishment though, right?

    But if you want to console yourself by reaching back to 1990 and saying “but Souter” as a way to defend Trump, go ahead and do it. It’s ridiculous, but whatever floats your boat.

    As for Miers, I don’t see her on the Supreme Court. Do you? I see Sam Alito. And do you know how he got there? The evil establishment you dislike so much stood up and so NO.

  1004. Chicon says:

    Mnw, will the Cards ever lose again? Should have canned Matheny earlier.

  1005. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    August 25, 2018 at 11:52 am
    1044 – this just in, and not fake news, it was Trump v. Clinton in the general. One was going to win. You didn’t want Trump to win. This would mean Clinton would win. So…

    – Oh, really. So who were those other guys on the ballot, fake lurker? They weren’t going to win, but it was not a two man race as you Trump absolutist would like us to believe.

  1006. Tina says:

    Abc reports that Bruce Ohr was “operating out of his chain of command”. He is also insignificant in the coup plot, despite being the department of injustice’s #4.

    Yup, he and his wife, ugly Ohr, were “insignificant.”

  1007. CG says:

    Commercial Interruption:

    Massachusetts U.S. Senate

    http://cgpolitics.blogspot.com/2018/08/massachusetts-us-senate-race-of-day.html

    Now, back to the internet fights already in progress…

  1008. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    August 25, 2018 at 11:56 am
    Can’t see the posters because of the trolls.
    Troll, troll, troll your boat.

    – Oh, look. The guy who disappeared for years only to come back as a Trump populist troll is here to complain about *checks notes* trolls. HHR at its best.

  1009. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    August 25, 2018 at 11:27 am
    There was no corruption in North Carolina or anywhere in the South until Northerners moved in? I don’t know whether to LOL or Zzzzzzzzzz Wes’ post.

    I never made that claim, but then with Bitterlaw as a yardstick I’ve learned pidgin English instead of the standard variety is the preferred language among PA attorneys.

  1010. Chicon says:

    1059 – you really do ride the little bus…. You say the others “weren’t going to win”, which means either Trump or Clinton was going to win. And you didn’t want Trump to win. And you’re still mad he won. So….you wanted her to win, since there’s no other option, by your own statement.

  1011. Tina says:

    Should I vote for Frankenstein, senator for China, or De Leon, Senator for Mexico?

  1012. Tina says:

    Nick Short
    @PoliticalShort
    16m
    Someone should inform CNN “reporters” Jim Sciutto, Carl Bernstein and Marshall Cohen. They’ve yet to update their July 27th article that claims the opposite, citing yet even more “anonymous sources” that more than likely don’t even exist. dailycaller.com/2018/08/25/tru… twitter.com/realdonaldtrum…
    V

  1013. Wes says:

    Pass the popcorn.

  1014. Chicon says:

    Wes, all I have are beer nuts…

  1015. Wes says:

    That’ll work, Chicon. I have the beer to go with them.

  1016. Wes says:

    Might as well vote for Feinstein, Tina, unless you want a male Kampala Harris to represent you in the Senate.

  1017. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    August 25, 2018 at 12:07 pm
    1059 – you really do ride the little bus…. You say the others “weren’t going to win”, which means either Trump or Clinton was going to win. And you didn’t want Trump to win. And you’re still mad he won. So….you wanted her to win, since there’s no other option, by your own statement.

    – Mad he won? I wouldn’t say that at all.

    Mad Trump squandered a generational opportunity to lock in Republican rule in order to litigate his petty grievances? Yes.

  1018. mnw says:

    Chicon

    The Cards’ story is striking. I haven’t followed them closely until recently, because they sukked so bad.

    I dunno if it’s real or not yet.

  1019. jason says:

    – At the time, Jason fraud was not very critical of Trump’s comment. Just hours after Trump tweeted that nasty, personal attack, here’s what Jason fraud had to say about it.”

    I was critical of Trump’s answer to Megyn during the debate, I thought that is what you were talking about.

    I have always been supportive of his tweets against the MSM.

    GFY.

  1020. jason says:

    Jeb was never going to win a GE, so its irrelevant what kind of SCOTUS justices he would have nominated.

  1021. Chicon says:

    1071 – so, it’s election night and you’re watching the returns. You’ve admitted either Trump or Clinton was going to win. Which were you hoping would win?

  1022. lisab says:

    the best part is

    donald trump

    still robbie’s president!

  1023. dblaikie says:

    Robbie is getting very tiresome. It seems all he can do is respond to what other people write. And rather than simply defend his own ideas he only regurgitates what the media is saying about Trump that day.

    So Wormtongue, rather than responding to your posts let me give you my take about the week. First, everyone in the media seems to think that the immunity’s given out this week were about Trump. Now in the long run, they may turn to the Trump Campaign but as of now they are witnesses in the Cohen and as the media reports the immunity is LIMITED.

    My second point comes from the post above with “the Trump Campaign”. If there are campaign finance charges they will be against the campaign and not Trump personally. Somehow the Media won’t report this (I wonder why). If the money was a campaign contribution it effects the campaign as a whole. Sort of like Obama’s campaign in refusing to report their contributions. My question is will the Trump Campaign be fined more than Obama’s.

    Third this is all an effort to go on the biggest fishing expedition in this countries history. I tire of the media and the trolls on this droning on about how they just don’t give immunity out cheaply. Trolls, that is just what Comey did with the all the Clinton puppets!! However there is one difference — Comey wanted to protect Clinton while the jury is out on the Manhattan DOJ office.

    Four, there is huge difference between the Fed. office in New York and Mueller. Sessions has not recused himself from the former. We will see what happens with this AG who carries about the integrity of the DOJ and FBI in face of terrible corruption.

    Finally because we have left Russia behind and turned to this stuff about stuff that happened years ago the rage of the loyal GOP voter is going to grow like a weed. Mark my words it will also effect fair-minded Independent voters. The Media won’t report this but the Senate is gone, I repeat gone for them. The news from New Jersey and Minnesota put the final nail in that coffin. And I believe continued control of the House will soon be a lock. In fact I will stay out on my limb concerning a GOP pick-up.

    Now Robbie go ahead and respond. Somehow I don’t think you will respond with counter ideas that are reasonable for a debate. But if you do, good for you. Instead I am sure you will stuff like I am hypocrite, stupid, and that my view of redemption is flawed.

  1024. lisab says:

    if you want a nomination for a true american hero, i vote for john basilone

    or if you want someone famous, jimmy stewart, george mcgovern or ted williams for that matter

  1025. Tina says:

    Lord Arsehat assured me of a Hillary blow out.

    Jebot

  1026. lisab says:

    dblaikie,

    normally i would vote green party — but the snowflakes like robbie make it tempting to vote for republicans, just to piss off the sjw’s and snowflakes

  1027. Tina says:

    @realDonaldTrump
    6h
    Big story out that the FBI ignored tens of thousands of Crooked Hillary Emails, many of which are REALLY BAD. Also gave false election info. I feel sure that we will soon be getting to the bottom of all of this corruption. At some point I may have to get involVed.

  1028. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Pete the cheat was responsible for personally choosing the 3000 emails looked at.

    Clear cover up.

  1029. dblaikie says:

    Thanks lisab, for giving a living example of my last point.

  1030. Wes says:

    Trump should not be threatening to get involved with the Hillary e-mails. That only muddies the waters and makes him look like someone trying to create a distraction. He should focus on the improving economy so Americans won’t be worrying about potential administration scandals. SeeBill Clinton from 1996 to 1999.

  1031. Wes says:

    Lisa, both McGovern and Nixon were war vets. Nixon won because McGovern favored abandoning troops in a foreign country in wartime. Unfortunately Nixon was part of Watergate. Even staunch Republicans such as Barry Goldwater abandoned him over that. Ford then took the electoral hit in 1974 and 1976.

  1032. Wes says:

    Trump should employ the Bill Clinton scandal strategy from the late ’90s. Clinton knew how to weather a storm. Trump should follow his template.

  1033. Wes says:

    Do, Stabenow is up by double digits. John James is not a bad candidate but won’t be going to Washington in January.

  1034. Wes says:

    Do, I mean. Damn autocorrect.

  1035. Wes says:

    Ugh! Db.

  1036. Ron N says:

    Do you remember all the articles and talking heads MSM put out there when they gave the 5 Clinton clowns immunity. How that ment she did something wrong like they are saying now that trump people have it for Trump what a joke. One day they might see there own bias. But I will not count on it to much hate in them.

  1037. dblaikie says:

    Wes, glad you were touched by my post. Ugh! To you too.

  1038. mnw says:

    Wes

    “Nixon & McGovern were both war vets” is LITERALLY correct. However, Nixon was a Navy supply officer, & he was at no more risk of being killed in action than I am right now.

    McGovern was a B-25 bomber pilot who flew dozens of missions over Germany & occupied Europe. The odds of him surviving that experience, without being killed or captured, were appx 50/50, or maybe even less.

  1039. mnw says:

    I think James in MI is an exceptionally GOOD candidate. “Not a bad candidate” doesn’t cover it, imo. I agree that he’s in an unwinnable race, however.

  1040. mnw says:

    db 1077

    well said.

  1041. Wes says:

    The ugh was for the continual autocorrect of my address to you, Db.

  1042. Wes says:

    I define exceptionally good candidates as those who can win even in the face of daunting odds, Mnw. James has a very slender path to victory, but the circumstances under which he can beat Stabenow have virtually zero chance of materializing. That’s why I don’t consider him exceptionally good. He probably has at most a 20% chance of winning if I’m grading on a curve.

    That said, Peters may be vulnerable in 2020, he being a rather poor candidate who lucked out when his opponent essentially ceased campaigning in April 2014.

  1043. Wes says:

    I’ve never understood MI’s love affair with Stabenow. She looks like Jabba the Hutt and has the charisma of a fence post with an extreme leftist voting record. That said, she always wins because Republicans find worse candidates than she.

  1044. Wes says:

    Levin at least was a popular workhorse close to the state’s political mean. Stabenow not so much.

  1045. Wes says:

    Interesting fact: MI, NY, and OH are tied for most GOP Senators defeated for reelection at five each.

  1046. Wes says:

    I won’t post links , but Corey Stewart continues to beclown himself. I hope Barbara Comstock has a nice lobbying job lined up. Such is the VAGOP.

  1047. lisab says:

    wes,

    i would not have voted for mcgovern for president

    but he did fly 35 missions in ww2 over germany

  1048. lisab says:

    Parents fight back after school drops Pledge of Allegiance for student-authored oath to ‘global society’

    Atlanta Neighborhood Charter School Principal Lara Zelski decided students will no longer recite the Pledge of Allegiance during the school’s morning meeting agenda, which she described to parents as “an effort to begin our day as a fully inclusive and connected community.”

  1049. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The liberal press is agonizing how to do stories about the New Mexico compound, without stating they were Islamic terrorists. They cannot totally hide from the story, since it involves child abuse, and children been taught to use guns, and the presence of instructions about how to produce 3D guns. Here is a CNN story which avoids the issue of terrorism, or any discussion of why the group was doing arms training.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/25/us/new-mexico-compound-new-charges/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twCNN&utm_content=2018-08-25T19%3A30%3A14

  1050. Tina says:

    Senator McCain has died.

    Rip.

  1051. Chicon says:

    Glioblastoma is a real mother.

  1052. Bitterlaw says:

    The country was richer for his life and poorer for his passing.

    RIP, John McCain.

  1053. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Am very sad. The U.S. has lost a true hero. To quote Mitt Romney:

    “No man this century better exemplifies honor, patriotism, service, sacrifice, and country first than Senator John McCain. His heroism inspires, his life shapes our character. I am blessed and humbled by our friendship.”

  1054. CG says:

    Rest in Peace, John Sidney McCain III

  1055. Wes says:

    Rest well, Senator McCain.

  1056. SoHope says:

    RIP John McCain

  1057. Bitterlaw says:

    I was proud to vote for McCain. I was forced by Hillary to vote for Trump.

  1058. Wes says:

    Because of Iraq, I couldn’t vote for McCain in 2008. However, I did contribute to his 2010 reelection campaign as I found J. D. Hayworth to be an opportunistic hypocrite and Deadender.

  1059. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1111. I proudly voted for McCain also. After Trump’s comments about McCain being shot down, I could not vote for Trump in 2016 and voted McMullin. I appreciate Trump’s tweet he just sent out.

    @realDonaldTrump
    My deepest sympathies and respect go out to the family of Senator John McCain. Our hearts and prayers are with you!

  1060. Tina says:

    You all should probably also refer to Megan Mccains statement On her dad. Very powerful.

  1061. Wes says:

    Schemer wants the Russell office building renamed for McCain.

  1062. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    A Brooklyn Professor wrote an article in the NYT praising socialism, arguing it provided free things for people. Some commented that the NYT had a pay wall.

    “The NYT asked me to write a piece on what socialism means. My answer: “The socialist argument against capitalism isn’t that it makes us poor. It’s that it makes us unfree.”

    “For liberals, these are policies to alleviate economic misery. For socialists, these are measures of emancipation, liberating men and women from the tyranny of the market and autocracy at work. Back in the 1930s, it was said that liberalism was freedom plus groceries. The socialist, by contrast, believes that making things free makes people free.”

    Irish Fan
    Are you going to lift the paywall, to promote socialism and fight capitalism? Didn’t think so

    Ryan Laird
    This better be good I have 1 free article remaining.

    N Dave
    Your paywall makes me feel unfree.

  1063. Redmen4ever says:

    Fight for what’s right for our country.

    Fight for the ideals and character of a free people.

    Fight for our children’s future.

    Fight for justice and opportunity for all.

    Stand up to defend our country from its enemies.

    Stand up for each other; for beautiful, blessed, bountiful America.

    Stand up, stand up, stand up and fight. Nothing is inevitable here. We’re Americans, and we never give up. We never quit. We never hide from history. We make history.

    John McCain, acceptance speech, 2008

  1064. Chicon says:

    Been watching Fox, lots of praise for McCain. They’ve stayed away from the negative – not even a mention of the Keating Five. Not sure if the other networks are being as kind.

  1065. jason says:

    I too voted proudly for McCain, he would have been a much better President than Obama.

    A great patriot. A great American. A distinguished career in both the military and public service. A fine man.

    I hope those that debased themselves here by attacking his honor and his character because they didn’t agree with some of his votes feel just a little bit ashamed today.

    I have always been a great admirer of John McCain even if I didn’t agree with his politics. That is because it seemed to me he always followed his conscience, and there is something to be said about that.

  1066. dblaikie says:

    Even though I disagreed with Senator McCain sometimes he was still a great American! Today I say thank you for his courage. I am grateful for his service. And I am humbled by his love for his Country. May he rest in peace and may his family know the presence of God in the midst of their grief.

  1067. Chicon says:

    “I have always been a great admirer of John McCain even if I didn’t agree with his politics.”

    So, it is ok for others to disagree with him without calling into question his patriotism? Were his actions in the Keating Five part of “his politics”? Can that be looked at as part of a balanced look at his record?

  1068. jason says:

    “not even a mention of the Keating Five.”

    Nice attempt at character assassination but it should be noted that the Ethics Committee cleared McCain (and John Glenn) of all charges and determined he had not violated any laws or Senate rules, and that his actions were not improper.

    “The Ethics Committee ruled that the involvement of McCain in the scheme was also minimal, and he too was cleared of all charges against him. McCain was criticized by the Committee for exercising “poor judgment” when he met with the federal regulators on Keating’s behalf The report also said that McCain’s “actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him….Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate.”

    Maybe bringing up the “negative” on the day of McCain’s death makes you feel good.

    I prefer do bring up the positive.

  1069. Bitterlaw says:

    I respect Trump’s statement. The two men hated each other. Any praise of McCain would have been a lie. I think McCain would have liked the tweet, too.

  1070. jason says:

    Can that be looked at as part of a balanced look at his record?”

    Sure. Go right ahead.

    If Keating Five is the best you can do on character assassination, again, its speaks a lot more to your character than it does to McCain’s.

    Why don’t you attack him on being captured too, so you can “balance” his service record.

  1071. Chicon says:

    Was thinking the same, Bitter. Anything more would have been phony.

  1072. jason says:

    Yes, Trump’s tweet seems entirely appropriate to me. Anything more would have appeared fake.

  1073. jason says:

    Heh, ok, Chicon beat me to the same thought.

  1074. Chicon says:

    So, when Jason “disagrees with his politics”, that is ok. When others do so, it is “character assassination”.

    I love this place.

  1075. Chicon says:

    Attacking him for being caught would be stupid. And I’ve never done that. But you knew that, and choose to misrepresent anyway.

  1076. Bitterlaw says:

    Speaking about Keating when you know he was cleared of wrongdoing is character assassination.

    I disagreed with McCain’s vote on Obamacare. However, that bill neither replaced nor replaced Obamacare so it was the great betrayal claimed by McCain’s critics here.

  1077. jason says:

    ut you knew that, and choose to misrepresent anyway.”

    Zzzzz…

    Now you resort to lying?

    “Why don’t you attack him on being captured too, so you can “balance” his service record.”

    I didn’t say you attacked him for being captured, I suggested you do it for “balance” the same way you brought up “Keating Five” for “balance”.

    Of course, you are not interested in balance, you are just interested in denigrating McCain’s image on the day of his death.

    What a big man!

  1078. Bitterlaw says:

    Neither repealed nor replaced.

  1079. jason says:

    So, when Jason “disagrees with his politics”, that is ok. When others do so, it is “character assassination”.

    You really are unhinged with your cheap hate.

    I have made clear I disagreed with many of McCain’s votes for years.

    But yeah, bringing up Keating Five for “balance” on his 35 years of distinguished service to his constituents (noting he was re-elected many times after Keating Five), considering he was cleared of all charges of impropriety and violating laws and rules does seem like character assassination.

    No free lunch.

  1080. mnw says:

    Judging by the msm headlines, it looks like like the Big Four are now Mathew, Mark, Luke & John McCain.

    In 2008, when he was running against Zero, the msm portrayed him as mentally unstable– uncontrollable temper, with vast mood swings suggesting bipolar disorder, etc. That kind of talk was EVERYWHERE when he was in Zero’s way. Palin’s selection was often cited as evidence of McCain’s instability.

    Judging by the hagiography this morning, I guess he “got better” fast, after he lost to Zero & became a major GOP irritant.

  1081. Chicon says:

    McCain’s words….

    “The appearance of it was wrong. It’s a wrong appearance when a group of senators appear in a meeting with a group of regulators, because it conveys the impression of undue and improper influence. And it was the wrong thing to do.”

  1082. jason says:

    When I said I hoped those engaged in character assassination regarding McCain would feel just a little ashamed today, let me cross Chicon off the list.

    He obviously has no shame.

    What was that about McCain being “petty and vindictive” again?

  1083. jason says:

    Yep, McCain said it was the worst mistake he made in his life.

    Again, McCain showed he has a lot more character than those who want to engage in character assassination.

  1084. Bitterlaw says:

    The irony meter just exploded- Many of the posters who blast McCain for not supporting the GOP are the same ones who want to nominate people who will take down the evil GOP Establishment – even when that means electing Democrats. McCain was an “irritant” but COD, Akin, Buck, etc were true conservatives. I also love this place.

  1085. jason says:

    In 2008, when he was running against Zero, the msm portrayed him as mentally unstable– uncontrollable temper, with vast mood swings suggesting bipolar disorder, etc. That kind of talk was EVERYWHERE when he was in Zero’s way. Palin’s selection was often cited as evidence of McCain’s instability.”

    But when he was running against GWB in tbe primaries, he was the principled maverick who put country above politics.

    I make this point to Amoral Scumbag all the time, if Jeb Bush was President, he would be a baby killing, planet destroying monster too. Yet Amoral Scumbag laps up the MSM garbage on Trump like a maggot on roadkill.

  1086. jason says:

    The irony meter just exploded- Many of the posters who blast McCain for not supporting the GOP are the same ones who want to nominate people who will take down the evil GOP Establishment – even when that means electing Democrats. McCain was an “irritant” but COD, Akin, Buck, etc were true conservatives. I also love this place.”

    Dammit, Bitter, very well said.

    I wish I had written that.

    GFY.

  1087. jason says:

    Speaking about Keating when you know he was cleared of wrongdoing is character assassination.”

    Nah, really?

    You didn’t go for the “balance” BS either, huh.

    How about the fact he didn’t remember how many vacation homes he had?

    Maybe Chicon can bring that up for “balance” too?

  1088. Chicon says:

    John McCain did a lot of great things in his life, and sacrificed much for the country. The Keating Five quote above, to me, actually shows character, because he realized his mistake and was strong enough to admit it. Same with his own self-critique of his temper.

    John McCain recognized he had flaws, that he was human. They do not detract from the large amount of positives in his life. They live side by side, as they do in all of us.

  1089. Tgca says:

    I view death differently than most. I always feel death is about the loved ones left behind feeling the loss and pain because I believe those who die go to a better place…or hopefully most do…as I’m sure some don’t. If one has lived a long rich experienced life, I’m happy for them to move on to something greater than here on Earth as suffering the ailments of age is rather cruel.

    I truly believe Mac will go to a better place. Even though I had mixed feelings for him over the years that varied with time, he did indeed serve his country honorably and suffered much as a POW so we should always have great compassion and an obligation of respect for that. So I’m sure Mac is in a good deserved place after a long rich life of experiences and I’m glad he no longer suffers.

    But right now, it’s his loved ones that need the prayers and comforting because they are the ones hurting and mourning over his departure. For them, I hope soon their pain and sadness turn to fond memories until the day they reunite in a better place.

  1090. Messy says:

    McCain won the nomination in the wrong year. Had he won in 2000, 9/11 wouldn’t have happened and we’d all be healthier and happier.

  1091. mnw says:

    BL

    Assuming post 1139 is directed at me, because I called him a GOP irritant, then I will point out that I never supported any of those “ironic” candidates you mention– COD, Akin & so on.

    Regarding Akin, I voted for (& contributed to) his GOP opponent John Bruner in the primary. Of course I voted for Akin in the GE, for which I have no regrets. He was the GOP nominee– same reason I voted for McCain in 2008.

    If you don’t think most of his GOP Senate colleagues found him to be an irritant, then revisit The Gang of 7 stories. How did that work out? As soon as the DEMs got what they wanted, i.e., the forced withdrawal of W’s judicial nominees… the DEMs changed the rule! So they got everything they wanted, & fast too. McCain & the other GOP members of the Gang of 7 got suckered.

    As for the Keating 5, the Senate Committee declined to review some of his most controversial actions, because he wasn’t in the Senate when these occurred. Look at the Wikipedia article if you’re interested.

  1092. Messy says:

    1090. NO. link please.

  1093. Tgca says:

    Even in death Mac is causing controversy and getting folks riled up still. I’m sure he would enjoy the irony of that.

    Mac is like many other controversial politicians. Ted Kennedy comes to mind. When he was alive half the folks hated him vehemently but in death he was a great man.

    I agree the MSM and some others seem like hypocrites to shower Mac with adoration now but ridiculed him when he was a POTUS candidate or criticized Obama. My gut feeling is if Mac and Trump were buddies they would not be showing him so much love today.

  1094. jason says:

    MSM outdoing itself again.

    Yahoo headline.

    “President Trump’s acrimony toward Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain has been on of the
    defining features of his presidency so far”.

    Hyperbole much, MSM?

    If you want to say one of the low points of his presidency, be my guest, but “defining features”?

    I think appointing two conservatives to SCOTUS, that is a defining feature.

  1095. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/nbc-wsj-poll-trump-approval-remarkably-stable-after-stormy-week-n903626

    Trump: 46-51( 44/52 after the Cohen plea)
    Gcb: 42-50
    PID- D+7

    (H/T: Krazen at RRH)

  1096. jason says:

    As for the Keating 5, the Senate Committee declined to review some of his most controversial actions, because he wasn’t in the Senate when these occurred.”

    Ahh, I see, let’s assassinate McCain’s character on “non-reviewed controversial actions”.

    I love this place.

  1097. jason says:

    “Trump approval remarkably stable”

    Translation: we are soooooo disappointed….

  1098. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1152- jason
    Yep! Will Robbie go silent today? Rasmussen(less) also has shown little change over the past few days in The Donald’s approval/ disapproval ratings.

  1099. jason says:

    “Had he won in 2000, 9/11 wouldn’t have happened and we’d all be healthier and happier.”

    Are you really that stupid?

    9/11 was planned way before the election, and would have happened whether Gore, Bush, or anyone else was President.

    The hijackers started taking flight training in mid-2000, way before they knew who would be President. The plot itself was hatched in 1996 according Khalid Mohammed, and refined up to its execution.

  1100. Wobbles says:

    #1152- jason
    Yep! Will Robbie go silent today?”

    Trash that poll.

    Waiting for a better one to comment.

  1101. Tgca says:

    I think Alan Dershowitz is correct. This Stormy and Cohen stuff is not a direct threat to Trump. What is a threat is that NY prosecutors are now looking into various Trump issues from the past. Who knows what information they will try to squeeze from ex Trump associates. This is never-ending and that I believe is part of Mueller plan. Start looking at every Trump dealing in the past and leak like crazy to insinuate he is guilty of something if not collusion.

    This is why Sessions must go after the mid-terms. We need an AG who will run the DOJ and make sure prosecutors are not weaponiong the DOJ for political purposes. Sessions is extremely weak and concerned only with how he looks.

  1102. jason says:

    Interesting results.

    “The NBC/WSJ survey conducted mostly before the Cohen-Manafort news also finds Republicans with a 14-point advantage in which party better deals with the economy — their biggest lead on this question in the poll’s history.

    Forty-three percent of voters say the GOP better handles the economy, while 29 percent pick the Democrats.

    Republicans also hold the edge on trade (R+8), taxes (R+5), guns (R+5) and changing how Washington works (R+4).

    Democrats, meanwhile, have the advantages on the environment (D+38), health care (D+18), ethics in government (D+14), looking out for the middle class (D+12) and immigration (D+4).”

    For those who think we are “winning” on immigration, the immigration number should come as a shock.

    For Dems over reaching on guns, the guns number should come as a shock.

  1103. Tgca says:

    1154

    Not true! There is credible evidence that 9/11 attack was concocted by secret US black ops as an excuse to go to war so money can be made off the military and fed to the coffers of Cheney and friends. GWB was a stooge and had no idea Cheney and friends were behind this.

    Science can prove that the Twin Towers would not have fallen from the airplane impacts alone. Metallurgy analysis would prove that but no such analysis was made public. In retrospect, this makes sense and we only know this now because Rosie O’Donnell linked articles to experts who hypothesized these rational explanations of why there was another more sinister plot that brought down the Towers. The hi-jacking plan was known all along by the US and allowed to happen as cover for the hidden explosives in the Towers by the US to ensure it’s collapse, and the march to war to make Cheney and friends money.

  1104. BayernFan says:

    AZ should get a senator more reliable on Kavanaugh now.

  1105. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    August 26, 2018 at 9:31 am
    Speaking about Keating when you know he was cleared of wrongdoing is character assassination.

    I disagreed with McCain’s vote on Obamacare. However, that bill neither replaced nor replaced Obamacare so it was the great betrayal claimed by McCain’s critics here.

    However, a certain Hedgehogger on here took McCain’s vote as “proof” that Mike Castle–who, he claimed would have lost reelection in 2016 (!) anyway–would have voted against the bill.

    Ignoring the contradiction in saying Castle would both have voted against a bill whose fundamentals he supported in his final campaign and lost reelection in a year when he wouldn’t even have been up for reelection had he won in 2010, for this logic to work, we must assume Castle is a puppet rather than an individual who would do anything McCain did.

    This takes guilt by association to whole new level.

  1106. Wes says:

    I wonder if after his sleazy, racist campaign inSC in 2000 claiming McCain was a Manchurian candidate who had fathered his adopted Bangladeshi daughter with a black prostitute, GWB will make a statement such as Trump made about the records departed Senator.

  1107. Tina says:

    According. To Larry .schweikart,Mccains replacement will not be his wife.

    I find this discussion grizzly and too early on.

    Also, he paid the price for the Keating 5 chicon,

    I disagreed with his politics since 2008, when he was soundly defeated by the Obumbler.

    I have nothing else to say about him here.

    We prayed for hi at mass this am,

  1108. Tina says:

    Wes, I read that this am.

    Karl Rove was wrong for doing that.

    That is vile.

  1109. Wes says:

    McCain likely would have beaten Gore in 2000. He had no sht of beating Obama in 2008 despite all the absurd bell curves improbable at best scenarios for his victory promulgated on here.and

  1110. Wes says:

    Sht in my previous post should be shot.

  1111. Tina says:

    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    1h
    Starting at 03:14 @BetoORourke perpetuates the lie that law enforcement is killing unarmed Black children “at a frightening level.” That is factually untrue, and puts the lives of police officers in danger. O’Rourke should be ashamed of himself. twitter.com/nowthisnews/st…
    View details ·

    More Beta please.

  1112. Wes says:

    An RRHer actually claimed Beto can beat Cruz, Tina. That place is a completely different dimension from reality.

  1113. Tina says:

    He hung in there against the obumbler until Mute 43 blew up the economy,

  1114. Tina says:

    I will not get into the controversy about palin being added to the ticket.

    McCain had the worst campaign team. A bunch of hacks.

  1115. Wes says:

    McCain had problems below the macro polling level before Lehman Brothers occurred. He was way down in money, and Obama had made a number of expensive must-win states–such as NC, my home state–competitive.

    At the same time Dems had a marked enthusiasm advantage while McCain had no realistic offensive opportunities. Paling caused McCain to briefly achieve parity in national polling, but that was transitory and was never reflected in individual state polling.

    Once Lehman Brothers happened McCain lost any minuscule chance of beating Obama, and McCain’s debate performances only solidified his inevitable defeat.

  1116. jason says:

    BayernFan says:
    August 26, 2018 at 11:09 am

    AZ should get a senator more reliable on Kavanaugh now.”

    The carrion eaters are circling….

  1117. CG says:

    I don’t know what’s the biggest pile of delusion to be posted on here today… I consider “messy” to be a parody character..

    The nominees are

    1. Wes continuing to insist, without a shred of evidence of any sort that the Bush 2000 campaign was behind any slander told about John McCain

    2. mnw stating that John McCain’s true sins involving the “Keating Five” occurred *before* he was in the Senate? What??

    3. TGCA claiming that 9/11 was an inside job conducted by Dick Cheney and the U.S. government.

    Yes, it’s #3. Not even close.

  1118. jason says:

    Thanks Tgca for that definitive explanation for 9/11.

    The facts you presented, as well as their sources, are irrefutable.

    We can all move on now.

  1119. CG says:

    If there was ever shark on here to be jumped, it was TGCA in # 1158. That is eight times dumber than anything bunu ever said on here.

    Watch, he will say now that he was just “joking.” For his sake, I hope he was.

  1120. CG says:

    Maybe he was joking. Elaborate sarcasm can be hard to detect on the internet. If so, the award has to go to mnw on his John McCain Pre-Senate Keating Five Conspiracy.

  1121. jason says:

    I was proud to vote for McCain. I was forced by Hillary to vote for Trump.”

    Zzzzzzz….the fake “against Hillary” vote again…

    Bitter is still looking for someone to absolve him for voting for Trump.

    Have you tried writing the Communist Pope?

  1122. Wes says:

    Aside from the multiple sources I find in a quick Google search, Corey–some of which I’ve posted on herein the past–no evidence at all.

    You just worship that sleazy scumbag, so you have to pretend it didn’t happen. Literally no one else is as willfully brainwashed as you regarding GWB. That says something when Bitterlaw and Jason also blindly worship the idiot.

  1123. CG says:

    The only sources you have ever presented on that Wes come from sites further left than Daily Kos. On a couple of occasions, you have cited something said in a John Kerry 2004 press release as evidence that GWB was behind the smear campaign.

    There is nothing at all to suggest that anyone associated formally with the Bush campaign had anything to do with it. John McCain and George W. Bush were close for many years and the former President will be delivering a eulogy at Sen. McCain’s funeral that I hope you watch.

  1124. Tina says:

    911 is a failure by the cia and fib.

    These agencies have worsened since 2001.

    You had. Drats and commits running the Ciia and fib.

  1125. Tina says:

    Pretty troubling news that comedy did not have his staff review most of the emails on Weiners laptop.

    The fact alone that he had emails from her thighness on them is criminal.

    However, if one reads the last Ig report, there is a memo from a fib member noting that Weiners laptop had “crimes against children.”

    Something awful was overlooked for political purposes by pius comedy and the fiv hacks.

  1126. Wes says:

    Sure, Corey. Keep telling yourself that.

    You are such a brainwashed automaton I don’t know whether I should laugh at you or pity you. The Manson Family was had more of a capacity for independent thought than you.

    You’re literally nothing but a mind-numbed, GWB-worshipping cultist who will do anything to excuse or gloss over literally anything GWB has ever done, no matter how vile.

  1127. Tina says:

    Meet the Depressed is upset that trumps poll numbers are stable despite the “worst week ever.”

    They are alarmed that there concerns about trump are not making a dent in his numbers.

  1128. jason says:

    I am not taking the bait on the usual wes BDS.

    I have my own bait in the water, hoping for a bite.

  1129. Wes says:

    Jason calls outrage over racist slander by a politician “usual Wes BDS.” That says a lot about Jason. It says nothing good but a lot nonetheless.

  1130. janz says:

    Here’s an interesting coincidence – McCain and Ted Kennedy died on the same day, nine years apart, from the same cancer.

  1131. Wes says:

    I wish Kennedy had died by drowning 40 years before he actually did die, Jane.

  1132. jason says:

    GWB is now a racist too?

    LOL

    I love this place.

  1133. Tina says:

    ardillo
    15m
    Because Americans are smart. They know that Manafort’s charges had nothing to do with Trump, and that Cohen’s plea is a big boring nothing. Americans care about their own lives and bank accounts, and Trump’s policies are working for them. twitter.com/meetthepress/s…

  1134. jason says:

    Of course, wes thinks Lincoln was a racist too, so GWB is in excellent company.

    What about Reagan? If you call him a racist too maybe you can go 3/3 on three of my favorite Presidents.

  1135. Wes says:

    You tell me, Jason. His SC 2000 campaign claimed McCain was a Manchurian candidate who had fathered his adoptive Bangladeshi daughter with a black prostitute.

    At the very least, that indicates a win-at-any-cost attitude fully accepting of using racist tactics to disqualify an opponent. You worship GWB though nearly as much as Corey, so, racist or not, you’ll find a way to excuse such sordid behavior.

  1136. Wes says:

    I don’t believe Lincoln was a racist and have never claimed that. I do know Jason’s a reprehensible liar for putting words in my mouth.

  1137. Wes says:

    You’re not even worth acknowledging anymore, Jason. You’re a liar and Bushbot almost as brainwashed as Corey.

    I have never called Lincoln a racist, and I have made my admiration for Reagan well known on here.

    You’re no longer worth the time it would take me to read or acknowledge one of your numerous insipid posts.

  1138. dblaikie says:

    I have read some folks posting about the Michigan Senate race and how they believe that Debbie Stabenow can not be beat. There is truth in what they say do to the past record of her elections. But Michigan is one state I know pretty well after having lived there for 15 years (Thank God I am back in South Carolina). I believe that this is first cycle where she will have to run against an attractive African American candidate. If James can just take 5 to 10 percent more of the Detroit vote this will become a different race. I am not saying that will happen, but with James’s story and talent it could. So in my book Michigan right now leans (I don’t care about polls) Democrat, but that could change.

  1139. Wes says:

    It’s not that Stabenow is unbeatable per se, Db. She’s no Carl Levin. That said, no evidence suggests her defeat as a realistic possibility this year.

    James is an attractive candidate but has low money and name ID in a still Dem-friendly state running against an incumbent bolstered by strong leftist antipathy for Trump.

    Stabenow would have to make a serious unforced error for James to gain traction and win. That is hugely unlikely.

    Had Hillary won I believe James would be neck and neck now with Stabenow and have a solid chance of beating her. Trump’s win though changed that dynamic and made James a significant underdog for the seat.

    As such, I am confident in my Likely D Hold ranking.

  1140. mnw says:

    Lincoln & racism:

    For all of the following, I rely on Pulitzer-prize winning historian Eric Foner’s books about Lincoln; Lincoln & slavery; & the Reconstruction era.

    By today’s standards, certainly Lincoln would be considered a racist. However, the worst sin a historian can commit is “presentism,” i.e., applying today’s standards to events of 150 years ago.

    By the standards of his OWN time, Lincoln’s racial views were fairly progressive, & they evolved CONSTANTLY to become ever MORE progressive during the slavery/secession crisis, & especially during the war..

    War is political dynamite, & Lincoln changed along with everybody else. 300000 U.S. Army dead will cause a lot of re-evaluation.

    Prior to becoming President, Lincoln had never interacted with Das, other than servants & hired men back in Springfield.

    Once Lincoln was President, and when he got to know Frederick Douglass & other black opinion leaders, he developed profound respect for them.

    Between 1850 & 1865, Lincoln’s views on race changed so much as to be almost unrecognizable. Based on available evidence right up until the night he died, it seems probable that Lincoln’s views would have evolved a great deal further during his second term as well.

  1141. mnw says:

    sb “interacted with AAs”

  1142. lisab says:

    You’re literally nothing but a mind-numbed, GWB-worshipping cultist who will do anything to excuse or gloss over literally anything GWB has ever done, no matter how vile.
    —————

    now now wes …

    ANYONE might have spread rumors that mccain fathered a black baby out of wedlock the week before the south carolina primary and coordinated people to call into south carolina talk shows to ask about it …

    maybe mccain’s own team did that …

  1143. lisab says:

    by the standards of today, yes lincoln was a racist

    by the standards of his time, fairly progressive

  1144. Diamond Jim says:

    MCC

  1145. Wes says:

    I know, Lisa. Bush clearly had nothing to gain politically from smearing McCain’s daughter as the illegitimate result of a transactional tryst with a black courtesan, thus stoking the fires of racism in the Deep South and causing McCain to lose support in a critical primary. He was thus obviously 100% innocent in the matter.

    I see it all now.

    How could I have been so stupid before?

  1146. Wes says:

    Upon reflection, I realize GWB was quite clearly the only person in the universe who couldn’t possibly benefit from a race-baiting smear against McCain in the 2000 SC primary. It’s not as if these two were running against each other for President. Ergo, Bush is clearly innocent.

  1147. Redmen4ever says:

    If Lincoln was a racist, then Barack Obama was a homophobe.

    In the Lincoln-Douglas debates, Lincolns said some things that would sound awkward, if not outright racist today. For example, just because he wanted to free the slaves didn’t mean he wanted to marry one (appearing to endorse the state’s prohibition against miscegenation). A person inclined to interpret Lincoln kindly would say he was merely saying what he had to say in order to do what could, at that time, be done for racial justice.

    As for Obama, through 2011 he supported the Defense of Marriage Act and then famously shifted his position. Was he merely playing politics with marriage equality, opposing it when that was politically necessary, and then embracing it when that became politically possible?

    If people would discipline themselves to treating themselves as they treat others, then we can better judge whether people are advancing the cause of freedom and equality, giving the circumstances in which they find themselves. Those who have gone before us, who have advanced this great cause, have made some things possible that in their time and place were impossible.

  1148. dblaikie says:

    As a person who loves history I tire of folks in this day and age who judge other people by our morals and customs. Lincoln was a 19th century man and should by judged by those standards. By those standards he was a great man and perhaps our greatest President. He may not have had the same perception of African Americans as we do after the Civil Rights Movement and the example of people like King and Rosa Parks, but in his day and in his time he was the force behind the Emancipation Proclamation and the 15th Amendment. Lincoln may not have been as enlightened as we think we are concerning race, but in his own unenlightened way he set this nation on a course for that enlightenment.

  1149. jason says:

    As for Obama, through 2011 he supported the Defense of Marriage Act and then famously shifted his position. Was he merely playing politics with marriage equality, opposing it when that was politically necessary, and then embracing it when that became politically possible?”

    Yes.

  1150. jason says:

    You tell me, Jason. His SC 2000 campaign claimed McCain was a Manchurian candidate who had fathered his adoptive Bangladeshi daughter with a black prostitute.”

    Ahhh….goal posts are moving.

    His “campaign” was “racist”.

    Of course, that is not accurate either. The story originated with a professor a Bob Jones University, and the Bush campaign always denied they were responsible for the rumor.

  1151. jason says:

    Wes hardest hit:

    “Former President George W. Bush has accepted an invitation to deliver a eulogy at the funeral of Sen. John McCain at the National Cathedral and is “honored to have been asked to speak,” Bush spokesman Freddy Ford confirmed to ABC News on Sunday. Former first lady Laura Bush will also be in attendance.”

  1152. jason says:

    Shooting in Jacksonville at gaming festival:

    “Steven “Steveyj” Javaruski, one of the gamers, told the Los Angeles Times that the shooter was a competitor in the tournament who lost. Javaruski said he saw the shooter kill two or three people before shooting himself.”

    NRA will soon be blamed because somebody can’t tell the difference between video games and real life.

  1153. Redmen4ever says:

    more on Lincoln’s evolution on race:

    http://blog.heartland.org/2017/08/lincoln-on-equality/

  1154. Wes says:

    An RRHer spits in McCain’s face. It was inevitable at that site:

    Log in to Reply
    MIDNIGHT901
    August 26, 2018 at 1:55 pm | In reply to segmentation_fault
    If the Chapo Trap House guys are “Russian bots”, they’ve been running an oddly long, public and profitable con. Hagiographies of McCain were inevitable, but the reality is that the world is probably slightly safer without him in it, and Ocasio-Cortez is getting ripped for that comment because she presents herself as an anti-war socialist while eulogizing perhaps the most infamous neocon in American history.

  1155. Wes says:

    I didn’t support McCain for President (though I contributed to him in the 2010 Senate primary), but this is simply unacceptable to say about a distinguished war hero and public servant immediately after his death.

  1156. Wes says:

    For the record, I’m not at all offended at the speculation on whom Ducey will appoint to McCain’s seat. The Senate has a crucial court nomination to vote on soon, and I think the Governor needs to fill the seat quickly to maximize the GOP’s leverage in getting Kavanaugh onto the Supreme Court. Politics may make this somewhat uncomfortable, but we can’t always do things at a leisurely pace out of convenience.

  1157. mnw says:

    Lincoln & AAs/racism:

    Prior to the War, on a scale of 1-10, with John Calhoun being a 1 & William Lloyd Garrison a 10, Lincoln would’ve come in at about 6.5, imo.

    By 1864, Lincoln of course had moved all the way over to the abolitionist position & supported the 13th Amendment.

    The more interesting question is not, “Was Lincoln a racist by 2018 standards?” The more interesting question is, “What would Lincoln’s reconstruction program have looked like?”

    Lincoln had the rare ability to listen to his political opposition objectively, & he constantly adjusted his actions accordingly. His successor, Johnson, was the most inflexible & self-righteous person ever to have held the office. Quite a contrast.

  1158. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes voted for GWBtwice but now claims Bush was the idiot. Got it.

  1159. Bitterlaw says:

    I see Jason still clings to the idea that neither Hillary nor Trump had to win and I want absolution for my vote. Zzzzzz. I did what I had to do. Probably have to do it again unless Trump returns home to the Dems in 2020.

    The irony is that Jason now supports Trump more than I ever did.

  1160. Bitterlaw says:

    Gun Grabbing Libs and 2d Amendment Defenders to bust out talking points in 3,,,2,,,1,,,

  1161. Wes says:

    Being a smarmy liar, Jason will somehow twist this into saying I support Lincoln’s assassination, but I honestly believe Lincoln’s assassination was one of the worst occurrences in American history.

    Lincoln was the elected President of the United States. He had won indisputably a second term and should have served the term. His death at the hands of a radical who should have worked to better his state in the wake of the South’s defeat was a brutal terrorist act that would unfortunately be mirrored twice over the next 36 years. Booth should have been publicly hanged for his assault on an elected head of state.

    Politically also it was devastating for the South as Lincoln consistently said the South was always part of the Union sand intended reintegrating the region as a fully fledged area of the country. With him gone, the Radical Republicans took over and gave Bitterlaw his disgusting masturbatory fantasy of the South as a devastated No Man’s Land. In that respect, Booth undid all the good Lincoln intended to do in the South.

    Thus, I wish Lincoln had lived to continue his second term as President. His loss was an epic tragedy the like of which the country has rarely experienced.

  1162. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes weeps for the slaveowners and their enablers and defenders. I do not.

    I do agree that Lincoln’s death was a terrible tragedy that altered history. However, Wes’ obvious idea that the defeated traitors should have faced no consequences for armed revolt is absurd.

  1163. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw’s a low-class liar just like Jason. I said nothing about salve owners or slavery, nor did I say the South as a defeated entity should face no consequences for the war. Learn English and American history while you’re at it. You clearly know next to nothing about either.

    In other words, go f uck yourself, you lying sonofabitch.

  1164. lisab says:

    an interesting alt history would have been, what if grant had been in command from bull run?

    the big thing the south had going for them was that the northern generals kept losing their nerve

    grant was like a pitt bull.

    now since the south was more deadly early on, they might have been able to pull off a decisive victory against grant, who notoriously only cared about what was in front of him, not what may or may not be out of sight on his flanks

    otoh, he might have bum rushed the south at bull run and pushed them all the way to richmond

    it is almost certain that had he been in command at antiedam or gettysburg the army of nothern virginia would have ceased to exist — assuming grant did not charge the southern guns, which he was prone to do

    mead does not get the credit he deserves for gettysburg because he let lee get away, but for three days he was a stalwart commander

  1165. lisab says:

    wes,

    apparently the acoustics are really bad in hhr

  1166. Bitterlaw says:

    Zzz???. Wes tries to avoid mentioning slavery and slaveowners so he can pretend his beloved traitors were great people. Talk about ignoring history.

  1167. Wes says:

    I guess so, Lisa. Saying Booth should have been hanged for killing Lincoln means I “weep” for slaveowners while statements I’ve never made somehow “prove” I think Lincoln was a racist.

    Welcome to the Bizarroworld known as HHR.

  1168. jason says:

    Bitterlaw’s a low-class liar just like Jason.”

    I hate having to split points with Bitter.

    Sighh…..

  1169. Wes says:

    Ah. First I weep for them. Then I don’t mention them so I can impute greatness to people when I made no commentary on the South or whether the people living here in the 1860s were great.

    Consistency isn’t exactly your strong point, is it, Bitterliar?

  1170. lisab says:

    lee: i’m attacking on the left … #do something stupid

    mead: nah, i’m just going to stay put, #not panicking

    lee: i’m attacking on the right … #do something stupid

    mead: nah, i’m just going to stay put, #not panicking

    lee: i’m attacking in the center … #do something stupid

    mead: nah, i’m just going to stay put, #not panicking

    lee: you’re no fun, #back to richmond

    mead: bye, losah

    lincoln: you’re fired

  1171. jason says:

    see Jason still clings to the idea that neither Hillary nor Trump had to win and I want absolution for my vote.”

    I still laugh at your vote “against Hillary” when the truth is you voted FOR Trump.

    “Against Hillary” wasn’t on the ballot, or I would have voted for it myself.

    But if it makes you feel better to delude yourself by pretending you didn’t vote FOR Trump, no problem.

  1172. Messy says:

    1154. Yeah, the bad guys were planning all sorts of things, but Bush and Cheney decided that all of Bill Clinton’s people were morons and there was no threat from Al Qaeda. A President McCain (or Gore) would have his people on the lookout for the terrorists. They’d have gotten caught like a bunch of others were, and thus, no 9/11.

    Intelligence stopped looking after Clinton left office.

  1173. lisab says:

    on the same note

    fewer things please me more than

    trump is corey’s and robbie’s president

    🙂

  1174. lisab says:

    btw, another mass shooting today

    of course that is every day in chicago

  1175. mnw says:

    lisab 1220

    RE: What if Grant had held command continuously, from the beginning, starting with Bull Run?

    or, Alt-history #2:

    Had the Confederates prevailed at Shiloh, a by-product of the disaster would have been: the end of both Grant’s & Sherman’s military careers, probably.

    As you know, Shiloh was very nearly just such a disaster. Gen. Forrest urged Beauregard to press home a full-scale twilight attack on the first day, but at Shiloh, it was the new CSA commander who got an attack of the timids.

    The rebels should have never left Grant alone with his beloved railroads, not even for a few hours. That’s all he needed.

  1176. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1228. “Intelligence stopped looking after Clinton left office.”

    Really Messy? You know there are some people who think Clinton was lax on intelligence and the war on terrorism.

    “In 1993, President Clinton failed to prevent a bombing at New York City’s World Trade Center, and the terrorists succeeded in their WTC attack, killing six and wounding over 100 New Yorkers. In fact, Clinton never even visited the bomb site. And, except for a few arrests, trials and convictions, according to the late John O’Neill, the FBI’s top counterterrorism maven, the Clinton Administration refused to follow-up and go after Al-Qaeda.

    He also failed to fiercely battle a faction of Al-Qaeda in Somalia right after the so-called Black Hawk Down incident. Clinton hadn’t sent in troops with tanks, Bradley armored vehicles and high-tech weapons. He sent them in with Hummers, rifles, grenades and launchers, and other small arms and conventional weapons. And then he ordered a retreat.

    Then there was Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia in 1997, when terrorists succeeded in killing 19 and wounding hundreds American military troops and civilians. There was never any follow-up by Clinton.

    In 1998, there were simultaneous attacks on two of our embassies. And then in 1999, the terrorists succeeded in their attack on the US Navy’s USS Cole in 1999. Seventeen sailors were killed and scores were wounded. But still Clinton took no action in either attack.”

    Hindsight is wonderful; there is enough blame to go around. Trying to make it a partisan issue is petty and dumb.

  1177. Wes says:

    I like Bill Clinton as much as the next guy, Messy, but I’m not going to pretend he was ever really that strong in responding to terrorist attacks–other than Oklahoma City.

  1178. lisab says:

    if only there was a movie showing how bad clinton was at dealing with terrorists

  1179. mnw says:

    1) Huffington Post 2008: “McCain Mentally Unfit To Be President”

    2) HuffPo 2012: McCain: “Racist and Woman Hater”

    3) HuffPo 2018: “Bipartisan American Hero”

    Anybody have any idea why the left loves him now?

  1180. Chicon says:

    Mnw, they present him in a positive light now in order to contrast him with the living evil Republicans, especially Trump.

  1181. Wes says:

    Thank God Ward won’t be the nominee in a few days. Sinema would destroy her.

  1182. Mr.Vito says:

    New Gallup party ID numbers among adults are 45-44 D-R for the first two weeks of August.

  1183. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1239. “Thank God Ward won’t be the nominee in a few days. Sinema would destroy her.”

    See wouldn’t need to, Ward would destroy herself.