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US Senate Polls From ND, TN, MO, IN and AZ Give GOP +1 Seat Pickup

Two posts in one day! How about that?!

Fox News released some new Senate race polls for the states of North Dakota, Tennessee, Missouri, Indiana and Arizona that shows basically a net +1 pickup for Republicans in these five states.

US SENATE – NORTH DAKOTA (Fox News)
Kevin Cramer (R) 48%
Heidi Heitkamp (D-inc) 44%

US SENATE – TENNESSEE (Fox News)
Marsha Blackburn (R) 47%
Phil Bredesen (D) 44%

US SENATE – MISSOURI (Fox News)
Claire McCaskill (D) 44%
Josh Hawley (R) 41%

US SENATE – INDIANA (Fox News)
Mike Braun (R) 45%
Je Donnelly (D-inc) 43%

US SENATE – ARIZONA (Fox News)
Kyrsten Sinema (D) 47%
Martha McSally (R) 44%

All these polls were done September 8-11 among likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 10:26 pm
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1,176 Responses to “US Senate Polls From ND, TN, MO, IN and AZ Give GOP +1 Seat Pickup”

  1. jason says:

    Dos, pendejos, dos!

  2. jason says:

    Fox got 3 out of 5 right.

    Pretty good.

  3. jason says:

    Some are trying to get him deported but I got his back if needed.”

    I get nervous when gay guys say they “have my back”, just saying….

  4. michael corleone says:

    Red polls; red wave

  5. jason says:

    I don’t know what Tgca is taking but it’s good
    sh-t.

    This deserves a repeat:

    “Our newest Out and Happy poster is Robbie. He’s a pilot. Oh goodness! Isn’t that FABULOUS!!!

    Now we have many gay friendly folks here too who don’t actually dabble in the…well…you know what I mean.

    There’s Wes. He’s a masseuse! He’s on the up and up career professional so don’t expect any massages with Happy Endings. :-). Just don’t mention Bush to him…that’s with a capital B as in the Texas clan…probably not the 1st thing that comes to one’s mind in Happyland when we think of bush.

    Then there’s NYC. He’s quite the pot stirrer here. He’s so brave to live amongst all our kind in NYC.

    Tina. Our California girl. She’s the one to turn to on breaking news. If it’s big and important…BOOM! She’s on top of it.

    MNW…our mild manner lawyer…differs than the bitter one who works in the Philly burbs and loves flower shows.

    Yo Vito! He’s got a PhD. Can you believe that chit? In what, I’m not sure. Just don’t ask hm to bake you a cake. Oh Lordy, that’ll set him off.

    There’s Messy too. We don’t pay her much attention. Her brain cells seem dead. We think she drinks because she is always rambling on about something that makes absolutely no sense. But she’s part of our lil family here so we welcome her…sorta.

    Lest not forget Jason! Oh dear! We can’t do that! He’ll be the 1st to tell you to GFY! Some are trying to get him deported but I got his back if needed. …and he likes llamas and spells things funny sometimes…like humour instead of humor.

    OMG! There are so many friends for you to make here I just can’t list them all.

    Welcome to HHR! Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!”

  6. NYCmike says:

    Did Robbie jinx McSally?

    Yesterday he was proclaiming her the best “challenger” this cycle.

    That magnificent b*st*rd! I hope he doesn’t share that information at the Democratic Troll Headquarters.

  7. jason says:

    Corleone is here?

    Maybe Western Civilization is making a comeback!

  8. Tgca says:

    If I can’t have ocho…I’ll take nueve! Aye un papi!

  9. Wobbles says:

    I think Fox is wrong on the 3 polls showing Rs ahead.

    Most R voters hate Trump, and they are willing to sacrifice all R candidates to make Trump look bad.

  10. Mr.Vito says:

    This latest CBS guy got fired after demanding their reporter cover the story about him fairly.

    Some say the message sent was harsh.

    I say CBS didn’t like this new-fangled idea of actually covering stories fairly.

    ZING!

  11. lisab says:

    ““Our newest Out and Happy poster is Robbie.”

    not that there is anything wrong with that … 🙂

  12. Mr.Vito says:

    Apparently some team swept someteam or other to win the WNBA championssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz…

  13. lisab says:

    Damning New Cohen Text to Stormy Daniels: “The Times is Angry With Us About the WP Scoop”

  14. marc says:

    It’s after Labor Day and it’s an election year so that means I return to The Hedgehog Report. I’ve been away since the Gorsuch confirmation more than a year and a half ago and the more things change the more things don’t. President Trump once again has made a spectacular Supreme Court nomination that will solidify a conservative majority for the next 15 years or so. Also dozens and dozens of young conservatives are being appointed to the circuit court and district court levels, in a way that will change the judiciary for the next generation. President Trump campaign on this promise and has kept that promise.

  15. marc says:

    It’s after Labor Day and it’s an election year so that means I return to The Hedgehog Report. I’ve been away since the Gorsuch confirmation more than a year and a half ago and the more things change the more things don’t. President Trump once again has made a spectacular Supreme Court nomination that will solidify a conservative majority for the next 15 years or so. Also dozens and dozens of young conservatives are being appointed to the circuit court and district court levels, in a way that will change the judiciary for the next generation. President Trump campaign on this promise and has kept that promise.

  16. marc says:

    This year of course is a midterm election year and for the first time since 2006, the GOP faces a headwind that is likely to sweep them from power in the House of Representative, reinstalling the odious Nancy Pelosi has Speaker and elvating some of the nasty, partisan left wing rebel to committee Chairmanships in the House. The Governorship look like the party will lose several highly competitive races like Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin and Illinois with Florida and Georgia on the edge of making history by electing left wing African Americans to the state house. The Senate is the only bright spot for the GOP, blessed with a favorable map;the party is on the verge of picking up seats including Florida, with only two GOP seats Nevada and Arizona vulnerable to Democrat takeover.

  17. jason says:

    Welcome back, marc.

    Welcome back, marc.

  18. Wes says:

    Dewine is leading in OH. The RGA has just made an ad buy in FL. GA is unlikely to flip. AK looks like a pickup. WI, IL, MI, ME, and NM are likely gone. OR is an outside shot at a flip.

    It’s not so bad in the governorships as you seem to think, Marc.

    The House is a coin flip. The Senate will likely have an expanded GOP majority.

  19. jason says:

    I think Rs will win OH, FL and GA. I still give Walker a chance too.

  20. GF says:

    Wes, I saw the “wise men” (or are they “wise guys?”) mention something the other day about Moody in ME being up a point, but I have not had time to check out polling in that race. RCP only has Suffolk from a month ago showing them tied…

  21. Wes says:

    Polling has been close there, GF, but I just get the sense ME is one the GOP will lose. It’s gone R>I>D>R since ‘94 at regular intervals, and I think Trump has ginned up enough of the opposition to cause the Dems to win with a plurality of the vote.

  22. Wes says:

    As far as WI, while Walker has been a phenomenal Governor, he’s also a lightning rod who probably hurt himself with his presidential run. I think he’s stuck around too long and is more likely than not going to lose.

  23. GF says:

    RCP must be using the same or similar logic on ME; polling is tied on their site, but they have it at “Likely D.”

  24. Wes says:

    Trust me, GF. I want the GOP to hang on up there. I just consider it a daunting prospect.

  25. Test says:

    Why does someone post as a cow?

  26. Messy says:

    Let’s see if this works, shall we?
    https://youtu.be/ZRP193-6Zak

    25, It has to do with modelling. If the November election goes like the way it’s been going in the specials and primaries, it’s all Democrat. If it’s like ’10 and ’14, it’ll go Republican.

    Rhode Island’s primary was yesterday and New York’s is today. I guess Tuesday’s no longer that fashionable.

  27. D. Ed Ender says:

    I like the site as well.

  28. mnw says:

    three iii’s, just STFU. Ebola.

    Economic news today:

    CPI rate slows. (inflation is benign)
    Jobless claims drop again, slightly.
    Average wage increases again, slightly.

  29. Bitterlaw says:

    Nobody posts as a cow. Cash Cow posts by herself.

  30. Test says:

    Good one.

  31. jason says:

    As far as I know, nobody is posting as Cash Cow except Cash Cow.

  32. jason says:

    We should rename Messy Captain Obvious. She just stated the election will either go D or R. Unless it goes Libertarian.

  33. mnw says:

    Comstock is getting $5 million from NRCC, per The Wise Men. Hard to detect any triage there.

    IBD (Investors Business Daily) has a lead editorial today about the increasing crescendo of violent leftwing rhetoric, & actual violence, against Republicans– most recently the switchblade attack in CA; the fire at GOP HQ in WY; the queen of Broadway on John Wilkes Booth; the truck attack on FOX News.

    Steve Scalise spoke about this same rising tide of violence yesterday, as well. It rarely gets reported & never gets denounced by DEM leaders.

    Breitbart has documented 550 incidents of this sort since the election. I call it “assassination porn.”

  34. jason says:

    So besides Amoral Scumbag being outed as gay (nothing wrong with that) and Messy is still a dingbat what other news do we have?

    Oh, I forgot, yesterday one of Amos’ heifers had twin calves. Unfortunately, one is a bull and one is heifer, and if you are in the farming business, you know what that means.

  35. Wes says:

    For once I agree with RRH’s analysis, Mnw:

    All indications are that Comstock will lose, so why isn’t the NRCC dispersing the money elsewhere?

    I like Comstock a great deal, but she drew the perfect opponent to unseat her in a solidly anti-Trump seat with an absolute psychopath heading her ticket on his way to a landslide loss that will negatively affect her reelection prospects further. Giving her money after previously announcing an intention to spend elsewhere makes little sense when Republicans can shore up friendlier House seats.

    I can pray Comstock has good internals, but they’d have to be pure gold.

  36. mnw says:

    Comstock & NRCC:

    I dunno. I can see both sides of it. I quit giving to party committees 10 years ago. I will only give directly to candidates.

  37. Wes says:

    On a side note, I notice the Dems in both chambers of Congress call their principal electoral PACs Majority PAC while Republicans call theirs Leadership.

    It’s a minor but interesting distinction implying Dems simply want power in Congress (a majority being necessary for such) while Republicans want to provide leadership.

  38. DW says:

    Some hurricane drama in VA.

    The idiot Governor we have here is playing the part of the overbearing Marxist who loves to think of the people as ants in a colony he controls. He ordered everyone out of Virginia Beach who lives in Zone A (near the water). This did not set well with many residents who have been through many of these things before and know what to do. Others were put in Zone A out of the convenience of the map artists, but are in no more flooding danger than someone atop skyline drive in the Appalachians. Gov. Northam ordered them out too.

    Then along comes VA Beach City Manager Dave Hansen who boldly announces Hurricane Florence is no longer considered a life-threatening event for VA Beach, in what many are seeing as an affront to Gov. Northam’s dictum.

  39. Redmen4ever says:

    We have just had an enormous poll dump. There’s good news in these data for both sides:

    For Republicans, the data indicate we can make a net gain in the Senate and that the House is a toss-up.

    For the Democrats, the data indicate there is a path to control of the Senate and that the House is within reach.

    The problem with the snapshot, from either perspective, is that the number may, and will probably break in one of the other direction. Republicans look at the strength in the economy, and Democrats at the strength they have in controlling the narrative through the media.

    Another concern is whether one side will surge in GOTV relative to the other. Here, in Virginia, last year, we had a good Republican turnout relative to prior off-off-years. But, the Democrats had a fantastic turnout.

    I’ll make one more comment: triage doesn’t usually work. Once you release redeployable resources from a jurisdiction, for redeployment elsewhere, the other side does the same thing. Plus, we have an interest in keeping as many races in play, so they can focus their GOTV efforts.

  40. Redmen4ever says:

    I mean, so they CAN’T focus their GOT efforts.

  41. Wes says:

    Tell that to Rod Blum, Redmen. The NRCC is abandoning him while outside groups are propping him up. That’s the opposite of what’s happening in VA-10.

    Also, when dealing with campaigns, we’re talking about resources which, while large, are still finite. Republicans are clearly on the defensive this year. Dumping millions into districts where all indications are that the Dem will win makes no sense because that’s just throwing money down a rathole.

    Allocation of resources should be as judicious as possible so as to produce the best possible results. Given all trends in VA-10, I see little logic in the move as it gives an incumbent who (great as she is) is the most likely incumbent to lose while denying them to Republicans in less dire situations such as the also vulnerable Dave Brat, also of VA.

  42. Wes says:

    Dems are going to focus their GOTV efforts on the seats they think are most likely to fall to them regardless of what Republicans do, Redmen. The idea that the DCCC is going to follow to a separate district just because the NRCC pulls out of one and goes there really makes little sense.

  43. jason says:

    I think Comstock is worth trying to save, I will send her $25. If nothing else, it she has lots to spend it will force the Dems to spend on her opponent too.

    I have sent Heller and McSally $50 each.

    I think this is a good fund to contribute to:

    https://www.senateleadershipfund.org/

  44. mnw says:

    jason

    80% Hawley here.

  45. Wes says:

    In a perfect world, Comstock would be in her first year as a Senator now heading for a comfortable reelection in November. Sadly we have Corey Stewart beclowning himself daily and making her House reelection a whisper shy of impossible against her nightmare opponent.

  46. Robbie says:

    I cannot wait to see how the morally bankrupt, unprincipled hack, Jason fraud, and the rest of the Trump sycophants defend this. I know they’ll try, but their efforts will still be laughable and pathetic.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    3000 people did not die in the two hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. When I left the Island, AFTER the storm had hit, they had anywhere from 6 to 18 deaths. As time went by it did not go up by much. Then, a long time later, they started to report really large numbers, like 3000…

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    …..This was done by the Democrats in order to make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico. If a person died for any reason, like old age, just add them onto the list. Bad politics. I love Puerto Rico!

  47. mnw says:

    46/52

    RAS also sez that support for Kavanaugh “has jumped since the hearings,” fwiw.

  48. Wes says:

    Of course if Trump handles the hurricane response well, this statement will be forgotten.

  49. gameboy says:

    #50

    And??

    I think you are the only person who gives a hoot about it.

  50. jason says:

    I am not sure I entirely agree with wes on Comstock. She had been given up for dead in 2016 and won anyway, granted in a good year for Rs. And I understand Stewart’s primary win is a huge negative for her.

    I agree she is an underdog now. I don’t agree she is a “certain loser” especially if she has resources and runs a good campaign on local issues. In the end, it will depend on whether the Dems can nationalize the election enough.

    Also, the claim that her opponent is a “great candidate” is misleading. She is popular in her House district but that is only a small part of a much larger congressional district. She is about a “C” candidate, very lucky Stewart won.

    What is certain is that if Comstock has no money then for sure she will lose. We agree she is a great candidate, so I am not against supporting her even if its uphill.

  51. jason says:

    Real news:

    Economic news today:

    CPI rate slows. (inflation is benign)
    Jobless claims drop again, slightly.
    Average wage increases again, slightly.”

    Fake news:

    MSM (and Amoral Scumbag’s) talking point on Trump PR tweet.

    Zzzzzzzz….

  52. jason says:

    I think Amoral Scumbag is trying to deny the MSM politicized the PR hurricanes to try to make Trump look bad.

    He has gone full moonbat.

  53. DW says:

    BOOM!

    OK_05

    Sabato, Politico and 538 all rooting for a blue-wave moved OK_05 from Safe R to Likely R.

    Horn (D) 35%
    Russell (R) 49%

    1,182 likely voters

    VCreek/AMG

  54. jason says:

    I think you are the only person who gives a hoot about it.”

    Oh, no….

    I am sure everyone at CNN and MSNBC is very concerned about Trump’s tweets on the PR hurricanes.

    VERY concerned.

  55. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 13, 2018 at 10:28 am
    Real news:
    Economic news today:
    CPI rate slows. (inflation is benign)
    Jobless claims drop again, slightly.
    Average wage increases again, slightly.”
    Fake news:
    MSM (and Amoral Scumbag’s) talking point on Trump PR tweet.
    Zzzzzzzz….

    – Hey, dipsh!t. If you want those topics to be main point of the national discussion, then tell your orange hero to stop talking about nonsense like his claim people didn’t die in the hurricane that hit Puerto Rico.

  56. Robbie says:

    Jason fraud reads this and pumps his fist in the air and says “I’ve never been prouder to support a president who has the guts to say these things”.

    Aaron Blake
    @AaronBlake

    Trump’s conspiracy theories disputing official government findings/records:

    -Puerto Rico death toll isn’t 3,000

    -Millions voted illegally, all for Hillary

    -Russia maybe didn’t interfere

    -Obama maybe not born here

    -Connecting vaccines and autism

    -Climate change is a hoax

  57. ReadyFirst says:

    32. mnw, also, although not a today number, ISM is at 61.3 in August, its highest point since May 2004. Good CPI numbers.

  58. Robbie says:

    gameboy says:
    September 13, 2018 at 10:17 am
    #50
    And??
    I think you are the only person who gives a hoot about it.

    – Sure. Keep telling yourself that. It won’t make it true, but it will make you feel better, I guess.

    The president just claimed the 3000 people who died as a result of Hurricane Maria actually didn’t die and the Democrats just made it up to hurt him. That’s 9/11 truther nonsense that fire can’t melt steel.

  59. Wes says:

    Jason, Comstock was never given up for dead in 2016. Polling consistently showed a tight race with her in the lead. The race never went below tossup. In the end, as a solid Congresswoman, she won by six even as Hillary thrashed Trump by 16 in the district.

    This race in no way resembles her 2016 reelection bid.

  60. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 13, 2018 at 10:31 am
    I think Amoral Scumbag is trying to deny the MSM politicized the PR hurricanes to try to make Trump look bad.
    He has gone full moonbat.

    – No one was talking about the death toll from Hurricane Maria, but President Moron just couldn’t keep his mouth shut and had to push out a conspiracy theory. And even worse, you’ve, as I predicted, have chosen to defend it.

    The only moonbat is the one who supports Trump in his conspiracy theories.

  61. jason says:

    Damm, did Amoral Scumbag miss any irrelevant MSM talking points?

    “Maybe Obama not born here”

    After almost two years of Trump in office, this is the best Amoral Scumbag can do?

    LOL

  62. jason says:

    “In the end, as a solid Congresswoman, she won by six even as Hillary thrashed Trump by 16 in the district.”

    Yep.

    That is why I am sending her a check.

  63. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 13, 2018 at 10:33 am
    I think you are the only person who gives a hoot about it.”
    Oh, no….
    I am sure everyone at CNN and MSNBC is very concerned about Trump’s tweets on the PR hurricanes.
    VERY concerned.

    – I think the families of those who died as a result of Hurricane Maria care about it unless you think they’re crisis actors hired by Democrats to pretend their family members died.

    Considering you have chosen to enable Trump’s conspiracy theories, you might just believe the people didn’t die and maybe you even believe Obama’s birth certificate was forged and Obama wasn’t born in America.

  64. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 13, 2018 at 10:42 am
    Damm, did Amoral Scumbag miss any irrelevant MSM talking points?
    “Maybe Obama not born here”
    After almost two years of Trump in office, this is the best Amoral Scumbag can do?
    LOL

    – You’re the morally bankrupt hack who supports the man who was the birther in chief, not me.

    You’re the person who is excusing Trump’s conspiracy theory claim the 3000 people who died as a result of Maria didn’t actually die and the numbers were just made up to hurt Trump, not me.

  65. jason says:

    I agree with Tim Allen’s convoluted defense of Trump. The pilot analogy is pretty good.

    “Are you a Trump fan, at this point, or not?

    “You know … it’s a very loaded question. I’ve met [Trump] at the charity event years ago, and that certainly doesn’t fit with the man who tweets. I’ve met a lot of people in private whose public persona is a bit off. My perception is “let’s see what he gets done.” Let’s stop banging on the pilot’s door and trying to pull the guy out of his seat while he’s still flying. You might not like how he’s flying the plane but let’s let him land it. Do I like him or agree with him? … I don’t know. Somebody got this NAFTA thing done. How did that happen? It’s like a slight of hand with this dude. There’s this smoke and smelly food but over here he just fixed a pothole. The theater of this is fascinating. He doesn’t do it very attractively but you don’t even realize the economy is doing better. Is it? There’s so much drama. Maybe it took this type of guy to get stuff done because it was so stuck in the mud. I’m just watching the theater of it and trying to keep my personal opinions out of it. What difference does it make whether I like him?”

  66. Robbie says:

    Sean T at RCP
    @SeanTrende

    Sean T at RCP Retweeted Nick Riccardi
    Aide: Mr. President, your handling of the hurricanes in TX and FL caused a nice bump in your approval in ’17. Let’s
    POTUS: Relitigate Maria.
    Aide: But . . .
    POTUS: Did I stutter?

  67. jason says:

    “I think Amoral Scumbag is trying to deny the MSM politicized the PR hurricanes to try to make Trump look bad.”

    Bingo!

  68. Wes says:

    Wexton has locked down a formerly GOP-held Senate district in the largest county in the House district but is a C-list opponent?

    You know, Comstock did face a B-level opponent in 2016–a realtor with no personal political experience but family connections. Wexton has a much better candidate profile. She wasn’t the DCCC’s preferred candidate because they thought she was weak.

    I would love to see the Dems nominate any of the weaker candidates they had running in that primary. They did the smart thing (for them) and nominated their best, most prominent candidate in a district fundamentally leaning toward them.

    To claim anything else is a willful attempt to ignore reality for the self-gratification of assuming this race is more competitive than it realistically became as soon as Corey Stewart became the Senate nominee.

    I hate the fact that I had to type that, but I honestly see no other realistic assessment of things in VA-10.

  69. jason says:

    Trump is correct that the MSM has tried to politicize Maria, where actually Trump did a great job, to make him look bad.

    If Amoral Scumbag were not an Amoral Scumbag, he would realize THIS is the issue, not how many people died or didn’t die.

  70. Todd McCain says:

    70. This is one time where I will actually agree with Robbie. This president just cant help but create bad news cycles for himself. STOP EFFING TALKING ABOUT PUERTO RICO! JUST STOP!

  71. NYCmike says:

    “The president just claimed the 3000 people who died as a result of Hurricane Maria actually didn’t die……”

    -Is that what he said?

    Or did he say something else, while no need for him to speak about it, was correcting an MSM made-up story?

  72. jason says:

    Wexton has locked down a formerly GOP-held Senate district in the largest county in the House district but is a C-list opponent?”

    Most of the Congressional District’s voters are not in Weston’s former district.

    Maybe she was the best of the Dems. Still a C or C- candidate. Both can be true.

  73. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 13, 2018 at 10:48 am
    “I think Amoral Scumbag is trying to deny the MSM politicized the PR hurricanes to try to make Trump look bad.”
    Bingo!

    – I think Trump is pushing a conspiracy theory that people who died really didn’t die and you’re supporting his claim.

    Like I said, you’re morally bankrupt.

  74. NYCmike says:

    “I hate the fact that I had to type that, but I honestly see no other realistic assessment of things in VA-10.”

    -You tend to quit very early on races, so I like jason’s approach better than yours.

    You need to make the other side battle for the spot. You just can’t give up.

  75. jason says:

    Ok so mnw was wrong that only Amoral Scumbag cared about Trump’s tweet on PR.

    Todd McCain cares too.

    Each to his own.

  76. NYCmike says:

    Trump did NOT say the people didn’t die.

    He knows they died, but not from the hurricane.

    Very different statements…..but then again, your media masters have told you what to say.

  77. Wes says:

    Send money to Comstock if you want, Jason. I have done the same each cycle since 2014 though this time I did it just because I like her.

    Your analysis of both this race and her previous one though in no way reflects the reality of the situation. Paradoxically I think Wexton probably would have lost in 2016 because Trump wasn’t yet the irritant to the area’s voters he is now, and Corey Stewart wasn’t around to hurt House Republicans.

    That’s one of the key factors in successful races though: timing.

  78. jason says:

    I think Trump is pushing a conspiracy theory that people who died really didn’t die and you’re supporting his claim.”

    Wrong.

    I am supporting his pushback against the dishonest, biased and partisan MSM who is politicizing the PR tragedy to try to make Trump look bad.

    Now GFY.

  79. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 13, 2018 at 10:50 am
    Trump is correct that the MSM has tried to politicize Maria, where actually Trump did a great job, to make him look bad.
    If Amoral Scumbag were not an Amoral Scumbag, he would realize THIS is the issue, not how many people died or didn’t die.

    – No one was attacking Trump over Hurricane Maria. Trump was the one who decided, out the blue, to push a conspiracy claim that people who died didn’t really die. He’s the one who felt the need to litigate an argument no one was making.

    Worst of all. You’re the one excusing it when you never would have done the same had it been Obama or Clinton or even Jeb. You’re morally bankrupt and that’s why you find it so easy to support Trump.

  80. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 13, 2018 at 10:53 am
    Ok so mnw was wrong that only Amoral Scumbag cared about Trump’s tweet on PR.
    Todd McCain cares too.
    Each to his own.

    – You’d have cared about it if it was said by Obama or Clinton, but you’re an unprincipled hack so you defend him.

    All you had to do was take off you’re MAGA red dunce cap and say Trump made a mistake tweeting this. Instead, you showed you were morally bankrupt and defended him.

  81. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 13, 2018 at 10:51 am
    “The president just claimed the 3000 people who died as a result of Hurricane Maria actually didn’t die……”
    -Is that what he said?
    Or did he say something else, while no need for him to speak about it, was correcting an MSM made-up story?

    – You and Jason fraud are in a battle to see who can be the most slavish and sycophantic defender of Trump. There is no idiocy you and he won’t defend.

    But muh media.

  82. Wes says:

    Mikey clearly has never read The Art of War. You don’t overextend resources as a successful strategy. You allocate them where they’d have the most impact. This isn’t what the NRCC did.

    I’d say something completely different if not for Corey Stewart. Had Freitas been the nominee, Comstock wouldn’t have the worst drag on her reelection prospects possible right above her name on the ballot. I think she would win that race narrowly.

    As it stands…

    Increasingly Dem district + deep-rooted local voter antipathy toward Trump+Corey Stewart as Senate nominee +well-funded, high-profile opponent who fits the district well+millions pouring in from outside groups to beat her=Comstock loss.

  83. NYCmike says:

    I defend your right to spout idiocy on a daily basis.

  84. ReadyFirst says:

    Everyone knows that every hurricane is caused either by Global Warming or a Republican president (sarc).

  85. NYCmike says:

    “Mikey clearly has never read The Art of War. You don’t overextend resources as a successful strategy. You allocate them where they’d have the most impact. This isn’t what the NRCC did.”

    -Wes clearly doesn’t appreciate that the Comstock issue is one battle in a larger war of 400+ battles (federal).

    You’re Art of War theory needs to look from a wider angle.

  86. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 13, 2018 at 10:55 am
    I think Trump is pushing a conspiracy theory that people who died really didn’t die and you’re supporting his claim.”
    Wrong.
    I am supporting his pushback against the dishonest, biased and partisan MSM who is politicizing the PR tragedy to try to make Trump look bad.
    Now GFY.

    – Wrong. You are defending and enabling a person who is pushing a blatant conspiracy theory because you are a morally bankrupt hack. If Obama or Clinton had done this, you would have been outraged. The fact you aren’t confirms you are an unprincipled fraud.

    “But muh media” is a Rush Limbaugh talking point. It’s not rooted in any reality on this matter.

  87. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 13, 2018 at 11:01 am
    I defend your right to spout idiocy on a daily basis.

    – And I’ve been reading yours for more than 14 years.

  88. Wes says:

    Actually, Mikey, if you my posts, I understand that perfectly. That’s why I’ve advocated reallocation of resources to less daunting districts.

    You really should sue the guy who lobotomized you. He destroyed your ability for logic or reading comprehension.

  89. Phil says:

    Wes, anything new to report on NC-9 or NC-13?

  90. mnw says:

    Wes 86

    Related concept to Art of War (which I never read):

    At West Point, they teach, “You reinforce success, not failure,” I’ve read.

  91. ReadyFirst says:

    86. Wes, “If he sends reinforcements everywhere, he will everywhere be weak.”

  92. DW says:

    This discussion of Comstock reminds me that yesterday or the day before a certain troll accused me of not being able to accept differing opinions. Comstock is a perfect example to the contrary. Wes and I disagree on the state of that race and I willingly acknowledge that Wes could be right I am wrong. In fact, if I was an outsider to our ongoing debate, I would probably side with Wes. But I am still going to differ, maybe just call it a hunch that the race is going to be a lot closer than it appears. But I consider Wes a friend and the disagreement has no bearing whatsoever on anything. And I am completely comfortable with the idea that in the end I might well be completely wrong on it. Of course both Wes and I are rooting for me to be right.

  93. Wes says:

    Nothing major, Phil. NC-13 probably doesn’t flip.

    Harris is barnstorming and organizing voters here. In particular my other half has surprisingly taken up an interest in his campaign and is aiding efforts to get people committed to early voting for Harris.

    Even so, Harris is a far cry from the type of Republican normally elected in the district, particularly on social issues. His opponent is a noncontroversial vet with ostensibly moderate views.

    I rank this one as Lean D Pickup simply because Harris, despite a strong campaign apparatus, just doesn’t seem to have generated a tremendous amount of passion for his campaign. The NRCC should send some of that money Comstock’s getting to Mark Harris.

  94. Wes says:

    You know I want to be wrong, DW. I try to analyze the races as dispassionately as possible when it comes to potential wins or losses. I just can’t imagine how Comstock can win with Corey Stewart dragging her down against her most formidable opponent ever in an increasingly difficult district for the GOP.

    I pray every day Wexton does or says something Comstock can exploit to achieve a victory.

  95. lisab says:

    it is very likely true people died AFTER the feds left Puerto Rico

    the feds set up shelters which had air conditioning

    the entire power grid was out in Puerto Rico. unfortunately, a HUGE percentage of the residents were getting their power illegally — not paying for it. when the new lines went up, the linesmen did NOT hook back up the people who had illegal lines.

    when older people have no air conditioning, they have a higher mortality rate. in fact, just the disruption in their lives would increase mortality rates, even if they got their power back.

    so it is almost certainly true that few people died in the storm, but a lot of people died after the fact.

  96. Diamond Jim says:

    C

  97. lisab says:

    actually the gop does not have to triage anyone, they have a lot of cash

    it is only a question of who has almost no chance, but they could literally give every congressional and senate candidate a $1,000,000 this cycle.

    they won’t of course, but they could. they are on tract to pull in $600 million

  98. lisab says:

    they have of course already spent a large portion of the $600 million

    that is, they only have about $100 – 150 million in cash now, having spent the rest

  99. Ray J Tuleya says:

    Yes, we need GOP turnout, but there is less than a 1% chance the Democrats pick up the Senate. They would have to run the table. I am optimistic that a GOP pick-up of 5 seats is doable. I hope for an election night like 1980.

    Republican have to defend Nevada, Tennessee, and Arizona. However, they “should” flip Florida, North Dakota, Missouri, Indiana, and Montana.

    I think the GOP chances of picking up West Virginia and the open seat in Minnesota is greater than the chances of Cruz losing in Texas. Heck, I’m working to try to get Pennsylvania too. It would be so cool to see New Jersey, Wisconsin, and Ohio fall too.

  100. marc says:

    Spending 5 million on Comstovk isn’t the best of ideas, especially when you have seats in NY, NJ,TX and Cal that need that money to sure up those seats

  101. Todd McCain says:

    The problem with POTUS tweet is now every GOP candidate in the country is going to be asked about it. Rick Scott and DeSantis already issued statements. I have just never seen a President step on his daily message as much as Trump; he just cant help himself.

  102. marc says:

    Sorry to burst the Pollyanna fantasies here but the Democrats have more than a 1% chance in the Senate. The headwinds facing the GOP this cycle is massive than at anytime since 2006.

  103. marc says:

    Plus we have a Presidents who pops off on twitter about any and everything each morning. Disrupting any campaign theme.

  104. Todd McCain says:

    106. Agreed, but if the DEMS are banking on Texas and Tennessee to get into the majority; that isn’t going to pan out well. GOP is going to split NV/AZ and likely win ND, MO and FLA. We haven’t seen much polling out of MT to make much determination. Manchin wins and who knows about Indiana.

  105. DW says:

    VA Gov. Northam is really ticking off a lot of people, refusing to let them return to their homes, even though this storm is a nothing-burger for us. Now the excuse he put out is that he doesn’t want returnees to be clogging traffic while others are still trying to evacuate. Nuts! Evacuate what? A few showers and breezy?

    Unfortunately VA is setup for a 1 term limit, so these governors can do whatever they want without fear of voters again.

  106. marc says:

    Indiana is a state that breaks late in 2016 Evan Bayh was up big against Senator Todd Young

  107. lisab says:

    it is not impossible for the dems to win the senate

    but i would not bet that way.

  108. lisab says:

    i would think the patriots have a better chance of being in the superbowl at this point, then the dems have of winning the senate.

  109. Redmen4ever says:

    Regarding the Art of War:

    Economy of force is Von Clauswitz, not Sun Tzu.

    Let me see if I can learn you guys something:

    The “reinforce success” is when you probe the enemies lines along a broad front, you reinforce the place where you have success. So, you (1) assault more or less simultaneous in many places, and (2) reinforce success.

    I suppose the analogy to U.S. style elections (i.e., district or state winner-takes-all elections), is you fund everybody you think have a chance of success, and then reinforce those who are having success.

    You don’t triage anybody right off the bat. You continue to maintain contact all along the front, so as to not allow the enemy to redeploy. You maintain a large, mobile reserve. And, you deploy the reserve where you’re having success.

  110. marc says:

    A GOP senate these next two years would do wonders to transform the judicial system by appointing more than half of the judges who would be strict constructionist who generations

  111. marc says:

    For a generation

  112. Wes says:

    Redmen, this is September. The election is in November. Now is the exact time to triage people so as to focus on the winnable races. We have seven weeks to go. Playing whack-a-mole between now and November only opens up the possibility of seeing Dems gain ground in other seats.

    That’s the exact opposite of what we want.

  113. Wes says:

    This is what Sun Tzu says about assessing chances of victory in a battle:

    “Measurement owes its existence to Earth; Estimation of quantity to Measurement; Calculation to Estimation of quantity; Balancing of chances to Calculation; and Victory to Balancing of chances.”

    Dumping $5 million into VA-10 completely ignores this advice.

  114. Redmen4ever says:

    Exactly as described by Trump, only a few dozen people died in Puerto Rico as a direct result of the hurricane. The 3,000 deaths figure comes from a computer model that compared ALL deaths following the hurricane to the NORMAL number of deaths as extrapolated by the model. (The link is provided below.)

    This method is interesting, but novel. In the past, the death count was developed by attributing deaths during or immediately following the disaster, to the disaster; such as when a person had a heart attack, or was electrocuted, or died from exposure, etc., due to the disaster itself or something directly resulting from that disaster.

    The problem with this approach is we have no comparable figures for past disasters. The approach is also very controversial. With regard to Chernobyl, deaths “due” to that disaster range from 60 (the old fashioned count) to upwards of 100,000 (the computer model approach).

    The more I investigate the lying media pretending that Trump is disputing “facts” the less credibility the lying media has with me. A fair report would be to distinguish the number to which Trump refers (old fashioned count) to the controversial but scientifically valid estimate based on computer models, and to say that, in judging death tolls from disasters, our data base only has the former kind of numbers.

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/16X9qtnPaD–2dPhpcwu7S53esafH59i9/preview

  115. DW says:

    BOOM

    PA_07

    Monmouth

    Wild (D) 47%
    Nothstein (R) 45%

    538 says its Safe D, others Lean D. Only Kos and RRH say its a tossup. But if Monmouth says its a two point race, then its either a Tossup or a Lean R.

  116. NYCmike says:

    Redmen,

    As jason stated, and others agree, we are defending Trump due to the media being totally biased and an enemy of Republicans.

    That said, especially now after Labor Day, Trump needs to pick his fights better than that.

  117. mnw says:

    DW 119

    That is intriguing. Thx.

    The Wise Men Commenters wrote PA-07 off for dead long ago, as I recall.

  118. lisab says:

    the trouble is, the dems are already following

    clausewitz, who talked about total war

    and the gop is still playing nice

  119. DW says:

    And PA_07 sits 17 slots below the magic line on the dashboard.

  120. Wes says:

    The Wise Guys at RRH would write all 240 GOP House seats off as unwinnable if they could.

  121. Paul says:

    The number of deaths in Puerto Rico didn’t come from the MSM. The numbers came from a study commissioned by the Trump administration.

    Not the first or last time when the administration asks for numbers and doesn’t like it when the numbers are provided.

  122. Wes says:

    PA-7 should be a place the NRCC is sending money.

  123. mnw says:

    lisab

    McSally isn’t playing nice, bless her heart. Wish we could send a bottle of whatever she drinks to the others.

    DW

    Hmmm… 17 slots below…Selzer anyone?

  124. Wes says:

    Well, Mnw, I don’t know if McSally’s ever read The Art of War, but she’s definitely read Machiavelli’s The Prince or at least familiarized herself with its precepts. Her new ad campaign is absolutely Machiavellian and brilliant.

  125. Paul says:

    Sinema Buns better take the gloves off to compete against that nasty McSally woman.

  126. Redmen4ever says:

    Thanks Wes. So we’re agreed that economy of force is in Von Clauswitz, and not in Sun Tzu, at least not directly. This would almost certainly be the case because of the custom of writing and the Chinese language. With Sun Tzu, you have to infer principles from the concrete examples he describes, and also allow that changing technologies might change some of the tactics and strategies he presents.

    As for whether the $5 million transfer to Comstock is more reflective of insider connections than to maximizing the probability of success over many districts, I suspect, referring to Sun Tzu, the purpose is a show of strength.

    Sun Tzu taught the greatest victory is to win without fighting, through a show of strength. With 10 to 1 advantage in force, he supposed the enemy would withdraw or even capitulate. Maybe this is what the RNCC is thinking with respect to Virginia 10.

    I hope that the RNCC takes a similar approach to other embattled incumbents; i.e., that we’re not in a triage mode at all. But, are maintaining contact along a broad front as well as reinforcing those places where it looks like we can win.

  127. Wes says:

    Sun Tzu taught the greatest victory is to win without fighting, through a show of strength. With 10 to 1 advantage in force, he supposed the enemy would withdraw or even capitulate. Maybe this is what the RNCC is thinking with respect to Virginia 10.

    Or maybe not, Redmen, since the overwhelming advantage as measured by spending is with Wexton rather than Comstock.

    In other words, the NRCC is doing the opposite of what Sun Tzu would have advised.

    As I noted before, playing Whack-a-mole as you’re advocating is not a wise allocation of resources.

  128. Wes says:

    Paul says:
    September 13, 2018 at 1:04 pm
    Sinema Buns better take the gloves off to compete against that nasty McSally woman.

    Oh, no! A political candidate working hard to define her opponent and win! This makes her “nasty” to the feminized Paul.

    Liberal men are some of the biggest pansies I’ve ever met. This isn’t bean bag but politics. McSally wants to win, and it shows.

  129. Paul says:

    “…. make me look as bad as possible when I was successfully raising Billions of Dollars to help rebuild Puerto Rico.”

    I don’t know specifically what the President is referring to. Does anyone have articles about the Billions of Dollars being raised?

  130. Paul says:

    132: I agree. I think Sinema is in real trouble if she doesn’t start competing stronger.

  131. Redmen4ever says:

    Correct link to study ginning up the figure of 3,000 deaths in P.R.:

    https://publichealth.gwu.edu/sites/default/files/downloads/projects/PRstudy/Acertainment%20of%20the%20Estimated%20Excess%20Mortality%20from%20Hurricane%20Maria%20in%20Puerto%20Rico.pdf

    >On the unnumbered second page are acknowledgments of the funding sources of the study. The person who says “the Trump administration” funded the study should contact the authors of the report and get them to correct what they say. Don’t you hate it when people misrepresent funding sources?

  132. jason says:

    Sinema Buns better take the gloves off to compete against that nasty McSally woman.”

    I hear she is wearing a bright blue tutu this time!

  133. jason says:

    You really should sue the guy who lobotomized you. He destroyed your ability for logic or reading comprehension.”

    I don’t think people get lobotomies to get smarter, wes.

    In NYC’s case I think the surgery was highly successful 

  134. jason says:

    No one was attacking Trump over Hurricane Maria.”

    LOL

    I wonder if Amoral Scumbag really believes his own lies.

    This one is a mega whopper.

  135. Mr.Vito says:

    My guess is that if the NRCC is giving Comstock 5 million, then they probably have a good reason, and that should be encouraging.

  136. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag could learn a lot from “Goober” Graham….

    “The senator explains the shift from Never Trump to Team Trump largely in terms of responsibility. In an interview with the AP, Graham said McCain, who lost two bids for the White House, taught him that the country must move forward after elections. That means “you have an obligation” to help the president, especially a fellow Republican, he said. Graham says he’s warmed to the president and suggests he’s using that relationship to shape decisions — though he does not cite specifics.

    “And I’ve tried to be helpful where I could because I think he needs all the help he can get,” Graham said. “You can be a better critic when people understand that you’re trying to help them be successful.”

  137. Mr.Vito says:

    “And I’ve tried to be helpful where I could because I think he needs all the help he can get,” Graham said. “You can be a better critic when people understand that you’re trying to help them be successful.”

    Pretty much reflects my thoughts.

  138. dblaikie says:

    I think it is a sad day when hurricanes get politicized. Hurricane Florence is not a competition that is scored after the fact. The truth is, both Republicans and Democrats will do their best. Fema will do its best. And yes, Donald Trump will do his best.

    One further point. A category 5 hurricane hitting a place like Puerto Rico, with its questionable infrastructure was a monster not dealt with before.

    People just need to shut up, and start praying for the people on the Carolina coast who are about to endure weather hell for the next two weeks to a month.

  139. dblaikie says:

    Leave it to Diane Finestein, who is in trouble on her left, to come up with a charge against Kavanaugh when he was in high school! Talk about desperation. I don’t know about you, but I did some things in high school that I regret.

  140. Wes says:

    Db, everything is political now, even down to the food we eat. Welcome to the new normal.

  141. dblaikie says:

    I know Wes. But the new normal is plain abnormal.

  142. Paul says:

    135: I stand corrected. The $300,000 study was commissioned by the Government of Puerto Rico.

    I read a false report that made it sound like it was funded by the Trump administration.

  143. dblaikie says:

    Here is the statement by Finstein: “I have received information from an individual concerning the nomination of Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court. That individual strongly requested confidentiality, declined to come forward or press the matter further, and I have honored that decision. I have, however, referred the matter to federal investigative authorities,” she said.”

    The beauty of this is that Kavanaugh doesn’t know what to defend. The turning over to the feds. is bogus. Something that happened over 30 years ago, if it happened (big if) when he was a minor is laughable to think that she is being serious.

  144. mnw says:

    Vito 139

    You may have a point.

  145. Wes says:

    Feinstein claims to have a letter from the FBI written by an unidentifiable person relating to an unspecified incident when Kavanaugh was in high school.

    Well, I have a friend of a friend of a friend who handed me a letter he once got from a waitress in a diner somewhere written by an unidentified person who once sat next to a guy on a plane who went to Bangkok 40 years ago and met the cousin of a friend of someone whose mother babysat a guy whose daughter once lived down the street from Feinstein and heard a story from a person who doesn’t want to be named claiming Feinstein did something in fifth grade.

  146. Redmen4ever says:

    When Hurricane Harvey hit Houston, 107 people lost their lives.

    But, when Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans, 1,245 to 1,836 people lost their lives.

    Does this mean Donald Trump didn’t love the people of New Orleans enough to run for President in 2000, instead of running in 2016?

  147. dblaikie says:

    Wes, when you factor in irony and humor, in my humble opinion 149 is your best post.

  148. mnw says:

    dbl 147

    Boob bait for the CA primary.

  149. NYCmike says:

    “My guess is that if the NRCC is giving Comstock 5 million, then they probably have a good reason, and that should be encouraging.”

    -Which is why I spoke earlier about Wes having a penchant for acting like a French soldier……we are not privy to the information that a campaign would have.

  150. Wes says:

    Well, thanks, DB.

  151. NYCmike says:

    That said, I enjoyed the many comments about Sun Tzu, as it reminded me of when MD would bloviate at HHR on a fairly consistent basis about his own brilliance.

  152. jason says:

    The Dems have no shame…but Amoral Scumbag is concerned about Trump’s tweets

    “Multiple sources have told HuffPost that the document in question is a letter sent to Rep. Anna Eshoo (D-Calif.) that concerns potential sexual misconduct involving Kavanaugh and a woman when they were both in high school.”

  153. Wes says:

    That’s about as clear as swamp water, Jason. Dems are clearly desperate.

  154. jason says:

    I read a false report that made it sound like it was funded by the Trump administration.”

    I bet about 95% of what Paul reads is fake, the other 5% is only questionable.

  155. jason says:

    If Kavanaugh was in high school and the other party was a “woman” then he was sexually abused…..

  156. Wes says:

    Well, Mikey, if I’m acting like a French soldier then all the right-leaning PACs and Paul Ryan* who pulled out of that race are doing the same thing.

    *Paul Ryan (R-WI), Speaker of the House and head of the principal PAC devoted to electing House Republicans.

  157. Mr.Vito says:

    Gloria Allred is on standby with a yearbook.

  158. Wes says:

    It depends on what age Kavanaugh was, Jason. Personally I think it’s all a lie given the absolute lack of anything resembling specifics.

  159. MikeP says:

    Good afternoon,

    Have not posted in a while. It s after Labor Day, now is the time to get really serious about the mid-term. I am working on GOTV efforts.I was calculating how long I have been following HHR, since 2004, that’s 14 years. So, hello old friends

  160. Wes says:

    It’s Anita Hill 2.0 sans an identifiable accuser.

    Anita Hill met the minimum threshold of credibility because she actually gave details. Of course the story fell apart after that, but this lacks even the capability to meet that low bar.

  161. Wes says:

    The Ras minus the Ras says Nelson “leads” 45-41 in FL-Sen. Even the polls showing him leading can’t provide Nelson any solace.

  162. Wes says:

    Oops. 45-44.

  163. jason says:

    Hey, MikeP, long time no see, welcome back.

  164. jason says:

    I understand the point wes is making about finite resources and where to allocate them. You have to be selective and invest well.

    I just don’t agree that Comstock is not deserving of help at this point. As an excellent candidate in a district the GOP should fight for, I think its a good investment even if she is the underdog.

    Put it this way, if the GOP wants to invest in ANY underdogs, none is more deserving than Comstock.

  165. jason says:

    Who wants to bet Amoral Scumbag will be here soon to say he believes the “allegations” against Kavanaugh?

  166. Robbottie says:

    Even Rasmussen can’t find a lead for the Trumpaloons.

  167. jason says:

    “I think the families of those who died as a result of Hurricane Maria care about it”

    I see.

    Who in your family was killed by Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico?

  168. Robbottie says:

    Republicans are now openly fretting about Kavanaugh’s confirmation.

  169. Robbottie says:

    “Who in your family was killed by Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico?”

    We are all like family in the Democratic party, and all dead people are Democrats.

  170. Mr.Vito says:

    In fact, the 3000 ‘killed’ by Maria, are now voting in Tampa.

  171. Mr.Vito says:

    A computer model has determined that 25,000 have died from Hurricane Florence as of September 30th, 2018.

    *The model was commissioned by Hillary Clinton, conducted by FusionGPS, and funded through a third party so you know it’s legit. The methodology can be found on the DNC server and has been verified by a Ukranian funded tech firm.

  172. Redmen4ever says:

    AARP/over 50 MN poll
    A bit dated, but I just came across it. It’s in line with the recently-released SUSA poll.

    https://s18672.pcdn.co/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/2018-Mid-Term-Election-Voter-Surveys_Annotation_MN-initial-release-1.pdf

  173. Toast says:

    I’m feeling a little crusty around the edges today.

  174. Mr.Vito says:

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

    Leave me alone, you stalker!

    I’ve got a knife, and I’m not afraid to scrape with it!

  175. ReadyFirst says:

    Sorry, that’s a Rasmussen.

  176. ReadyFirst says:

    One thing about Scott, he’s never going to get the nickname “Landslide”. I think Scott pulls this one out by 2-3 pts.

  177. DW says:

    Scott might win with 51%, but he gets 100% of the senate seat.

  178. DW says:

    Siena about to start polling KS_02 and FL_26

  179. Mr.Vito says:

    AuthorLMendez says:
    October 15, 2014 at 7:12 pm

    If what i’m reading from Twitter is true, Rick Scott is about to lose the election

    Waingro says:
    October 15, 2014 at 7:17 pm

    #208, twitter going nuts. UGH. Looks like The Orange Man may be your governor again, Author

    AuthorLMendez says:
    October 15, 2014 at 7:19 pm

    @210 Yep. Nothing I can do. It’s out of my hands. What a horrible, horrible move. I have no clue what Scott was smoking.

    Mr.Vito says:
    October 15, 2014 at 7:20 pm

    Twitter is going nuts? That never happens.

  180. Wes says:

    RF, “Landslide” is an ironic nickname in politics. Most famously it was used for former Senator “Landslide” Bob Kasten (R-WI), whose Senate victories in 1980 and 1986 were narrow affairs of 2-3 points.

  181. jason says:

    I remember I didn’t go for the fangate hype, I thought it was a nothingburger from the start. (pat myself on back)

  182. Messy says:

    172, 174-6. Way to go, kiddo. I bet if Trump tweeted “3+3=8” you’d start laughing at math books for being politically biased.

  183. mnw says:

    RE: Kavanaugh

    Every time I think the TDS left can’t sink any lower into the sewer, Feinstein, or someone of her ilk, comes up with something to show they still haven’t touched bottom yet.

    I need to build up my hate stamina.

  184. mnw says:

    Also “Landslide Lyndon” for the Senate election he clearly stole.

  185. Mr.Vito says:

    Messy doesn’t understand satire.

    But, to be fair, it does take a certain level of intelligence…

  186. GF says:

    I believe the moniker started (or at least really took off )with “Landslide Lyndon” who eked out a narrow victory in his first Senate primary in 1948. The antics of that campaign are legend in the political world…

    https://www.nytimes.com/1990/02/11/us/how-johnson-won-election-he-d-lost.html

  187. GF says:

    Beat me to it, mnw; I was looking for an article to back up the story.

  188. NYCmike says:

    “Beat me to it, mnw; I was looking for an article to back up the story.”

    -mnw must have been a Democrat sometime in his life…..he just throws it out there without any substantiation.

  189. lisab says:

    obama gave a speech at the university of illinois, which has over 35,000 students and is near another college, Parkland College that has 20,000 students

    in a blue state

    on a college campus

    700 people showed up … less than half the size the event space could hold

    yeah … the dems are fired up

    or more specifically … a few people like robbie are fired up

  190. lisab says:

    even worse …

    obama is by far the dems biggest draw

    if he is getting a crowd of 700 on a college campus

    no one else is getting much of anything

    even jeb! might be able to get 700

  191. GF says:

    Somewhere out in the Wisconsin Dells, Diamond Jim is shuffling his deck and ready to deal out a CC…

  192. Phil says:

    When can we expect the FBI report on Kavanaugh’s efforts to get to second base while he was in high school.

    In light of this new and explosive bombshell information this nomination must not move forward.

    The guy is obviously a sex criminal.

  193. janz says:

    Obama’s rally in Los Angeles only attracted 750 people in a statium holding 7500. Now, Michelle is going on a 10 city tour, held in statiums rather than book stores, to hawk her book.

    It’s going to be a noisy, nasty, 50 plus days leading up to the midterms. I only wish Trump would give his Twitter impulses a rest!

  194. Mr.Vito says:

    “When can we expect the FBI report on Kavanaugh’s efforts to get to second base while he was in high school.”

    I think we need a special counsel with an unlimited mandate and no timetable.

  195. lisab says:

    kavanaugh will be confirmed unless collins caves

  196. DW says:

    here is it:

    REPORT: Kavanaugh was 12 when he pulled on a girl’s pigtail while standing in line at the drinking fountain. The girl (now woman), who wishes to remain anonymous, said the unwelcome action was seconds before she was to drink from the fountain, and after her hair was let go, her face plunged into the water causing her great embarrassment because the other children, including Kavanaugh, were laughing. At the time she didn’t know who pulled on her hair, but now that Kavanaugh is up for a SCOTUS nomination, the woman is certain it was him.

  197. Paul says:

    Janz: It only feels like it is “nasty” because you are feminized. That is what Wes said.

  198. Mr.Vito says:

    janz is a woman, so…

  199. ReadyFirst says:

    Lol, DW! Btw, you’re right about 51%. Know what they call a Dr that just passes their medical board exam? Dr.

  200. Robbie says:

    This will go down as one of the nastiest and most despicable smears ever attempted in a nomination process.

    Feinstein has had this “letter” since July and never chose to mention it in the hearing or in the closed session. Now, she drops it as a last ditch effort. Just terrible.

    Mitch McConnell should call the vote on Kavanaugh’s confirmation tomorrow and end this nonsense.

    Seung Min Kim
    @seungminkim

    New — FBI does not now plan to launch a criminal investigation of the Kavanaugh matter; instead the bureau passed the material to the White House as an update to Kavanaugh’s background check, via @mattzap

  201. NYCmike says:

    “Lol, DW! Btw, you’re right about 51%.”

    -President Trump @ 46.1% says HELLO!

    GOD Bless the Founding Individuals and the Electoral College!

  202. mnw says:

    jazz 200

    “It’s going to be a noisy, nasty 50 plus days….”

    Yes, indeed it will.

    Come and take them, Chuck and Nancy.

  203. mnw says:

    209 sb “janz 200”

    spellcheck got me.

  204. GF says:

    208- John Quincy Adams @ 30.92% might also have something to say!

  205. ReadyFirst says:

    Wes, I didn’t know about Kasten. I have a buddy of mine who I call landslide who got elected to local office in 2016. He barely won his primary and the general each by less than 500 votes. The general was over 60000 total votes.

  206. mnw says:

    RF

    AVGO

    Better than a rollercoaster.

  207. marc says:

    The entire process just shows the lengths that the Democrats are willing to go just destroy those that disagree with them. Republicans in the future to be advised and act accordingly. They think Merrick Garland was treated badly, just you watch.

  208. Paul says:

    205: Mr Vito you prove Wes’ point.

  209. Paul says:

    marc: politics are nasty. If you don’t like it go somewhere else.

  210. ReadyFirst says:

    208. NYC, by comparison, weren’t Clinton’s numbers in 92 in the Low 40s? Yes, gotta live the college.

  211. Mr.Vito says:

    “205: Mr Vito you prove Wes’ point.”

    Yes, that was the idea.

  212. Hugh says:

    This latest shenanigan will backfire on dems. FBI finally did something right avoiding this schitt storm

  213. ReadyFirst says:

    213. Nice day for it today.

  214. ReadyFirst says:

    Hugh, exactly. I don’t think the majority of sane voters want to hear the equivalent of a Clarence Thomas pubic hair story at this point.

  215. Phil says:

    I actually love this latest Democratic stunt…..for November certainly won’t dampen our base turnout plus indies aren’t going to much like it either.

    I consider it an absolute gift. If anything it helps GOP marginally in November.

    Thanks, Dems. Dummies.

  216. mnw says:

    RE: Feinstein’s gutterball

    As I posted early this morning, RAS reports that support for Kavanaugh “has jumped dramatically since the hearings.”

    So by all means… bring a pubic hair story front and center! PLEASE!

  217. Redmen4ever says:

    Feinstein’s original plan was to pass this first to John McCain who would pass it to the FBI. Has to how she got the information, it was from a never-Trump super PAC who got it from a former British spy who got it from Russian intelligence. But, things change, and she had to improvise.

  218. marc says:

    That’s it the media covers it, right now they are desperately trying to make Florence into Trumps Katrina and blaming him for 3000 fake deaths in Puerto Rico..

  219. Tina says:

    Are comedy and Pete the chest investigating this “matter?”

    This sounds like fake dossier 2.0

    Where is Gloria Allred?

    We need the full circus.

  220. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Frankensteins source is an unnamed Chinese Official.

    She is bought and paid for by China.

  221. Tina says:

    5h
    NYT reports Feinstein’s letter on Kavanaugh is about possible sexual misconduct between Judge Kavanaugh and a woman when they were both in high school. Kavanaugh went to Georgetown Preparatory for high school, an all-boys school.

    But Muh scandal, said the Jebots.

  222. dblaikie says:

    207 Well I am in the unusual of agreeing with Robbie. Sometimes it is a mad, mad, mad world.

  223. mnw says:

    Let’s be fair here. All Feinstein & the left want is just a LEETLE MORE TIME to sort this whole HS sex thing out.

    Is that REALLY so unreasonable? You know… fair play. /s!

  224. mnw says:

    *just ’till after the midterm GE.

  225. Tina says:

    2h
    BREAKING: The FBI does not intend to launch an investigation into Brett Kavanaugh over Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s anonymous letter from unknown person over unknown allegations – WaPo

    Sounds like .redactsteins appt of a special counselor.

  226. Tina says:

    retweeted
    Yahoo Finance Yahoo Finance
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    8h
    Highlight: @readdanwrite on leaked Google video: “It’s very bad. You don’t say this when you know you’re being recorded.” finance.yahoo.com pic.twitter.com/C3oPlVXtkb
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    Well past time for googled which colluded here, to be broken up.

  227. mnw says:

    Tina

    Where is Pete Strzok when the DEMs really need him? HE would’ve launched “an investigation”!

  228. Tina says:

    You forgot “Andy” to oversee the investigation.

  229. Bitterlaw says:

    I am watching the Bengals-Ravens game on NFL Network. For some reason, it only has the Spanish speaking announcers. All the commercials are in English so it is not a Spanish channel.

  230. Tina says:

    I am watching nothing, bl.

    No cable tv, remember?

  231. Bitterlaw says:

    The English feed is back.

  232. Bitterlaw says:

    I would rather give up insulin than cable tv.

  233. NYCmike says:

    “I would rather give up insulin than cable tv.”

    -Nike ad…..”Just do it!”??

  234. NYCmike says:

    ZING!

  235. Hunter says:

    Just burned my Nike shoes. Burn them.. JUST DO IT!

  236. Chicon says:

    Hunter, not judging what’s right for you, but I won’t let a dope like Kapernick have control over what I buy or watch.

  237. marc says:

    So this is from the Guardian, the left wing British newspaper.

    “A source who said they were briefed on the contents of the letter said it described an incident involving Kavanaugh and a woman that took place when both were 17 years old and at a party. According to the source, Kavanaugh and a male friend had locked her in a room against her will, making her feel threatened, but she was able to get out of the room. The Guardian has not verified the apparent claims in the letter. It is not yet clear who wrote it.”

    So that is it, the Democrats are willing to ruin a mans character for something that 16/17 girls and boys have done throughout history.

    Disgusting how low they will sink..

  238. Hunter says:

    Nike supports a traitor over our flag. Of course, I will no longer support Nike. Nope!

  239. lisab says:

    ‘There are so many fires, you can’t see the sky’: Up to 50 properties EXPLODE in flames in three Boston suburbs after ‘gas main meltdown’ – as residents are told, if you smell gas ‘get out now!’

    Up to 70 fires are being reported in Lawrence, Andover and North Andover

    Officials said problems with the natural gas system caused multiple explosions

    Methuen Police Chief said there are so many fires ‘you can’t even see the sky’
    __________________________________

    yeah … that natural gas sure is safe /sarc

    i’ll stick with my coal burning stove please

    the only thing i need to worry about is my house gets too warm

  240. lisab says:

    Officials said problems with the natural gas system
    ————————————–

    good thing we have officials to let us know there are problems

    never would have guessed

  241. mnw says:

    You really have a coal burning stove?

    On another topic, have u read about the Cleveland LNG disaster during WW II?

    For a truly Titanic-epic scale disaster, you just can’t top Port Chicago during WW II, imo.

    Texas City in 1947 was another good disaster, in peacetime no less.

  242. Redmen4ever says:

    life expectancy fell in the U.S. from 78.9 years in 2014, to 78.7 in 2015 and to 78.6 in 2016.

    But, who cares, Obama meant well.

  243. mnw says:

    Well… at least those poor 78-year-olds had 3 months less to listen to Zero’s bullchit.

  244. janz says:

    The Dems just get nuttier and nuttier as we close in on the November midterms. Also, anonymous snipers now trying to take down Kavanaugh, via lame Feinsteins late-breaking news, is getting old. I like mnw’s use of “gutterball” in describing Feinstein’s last minute arrow at Trump’s SCOTUS nomination.

  245. Tina says:

    These statistics are all Bushs fault actually.

    I only take credit for the 4.6 percent gdp.

    Barrack Millhouse Obumbler

  246. Tina says:

    If Hillary sold shoes, I would buy them

    I bought two copies of her Madam President book too.

    Jebot

  247. lisab says:

    i love fireplaces, but they really don’t heat your house unless you sit next to them

    wood burning stoves are much better at heating your house …

    but … my local general store had an anthracite stove … wow! sooooooooo much more heat, the iron stove will actually ping from the heat

    now i own both.

    you do have to line them with fire brick to protect your stove

  248. lisab says:

    besides coal is renewable energy

    just wait 100 million years and voila!

  249. Paul says:

    I find decent amounts of coal during my fossil hunts. There are some roadcuts with good coal exposures. I suppose if you get desperate in winter you can always drive to one of those and load up.

  250. Tina says:

    @realDonaldTrump
    Follow
    John Kerry had illegal meetings with the very hostile Iranian Regime, which can only serve to undercut our great work to the detriment of the American people. He told them to wait out the Trump Administration! Was he registered under the Foreign Agents Registration Act? BAD!
    6:10 PM – 13 Sep 2

  251. Cash Cow TM says:

    lisab says:

    i’ll stick with my coal burning stove please

    **************
    God Bless you lisab.

    WV thanks you.

  252. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    +A pro-Putin eastern Ukrainian leader was killed by a bomb on August 31st
    +The pro-Putin leader of Abkhazia, a breakaway region from pro-Western Georgia, died in a car accident on September 8th. Apparent an oncoming car veered into his lane and crashed into his car.
    +The pro-Putin President of Moldova survived a car accident on September 9th, when an approaching truck veered into his lane and struck his car and another one in his motorcade (there is a video).

    Putin needs to pick friends with better luck.

  253. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    259. “lisab says: i’ll stick with my coal burning stove please.”

    Be interesting to do a comparison between the number of deaths from natural gas explosions versus the death from coal pollution. Its estimated that one million people worldwide died as a result of coal pollution each year.

    Why don’t you try and experiment; switch Boston from natural gas to coal — then Boston air can benefit from all that healthful mercury, lead, sulfur dioxide, and particles that give such a fun tickle to the lungs.

    Actually, China has already done that experiment, which is why they are shutting down their coal plants as quickly as possible. The amount of natural gas China uses is expect to rise 60% between 2017-2023. They will be the world’s largest importer of LNG. The world is having a hard time pulling enough natural gas out of the ground fast enough to meet growing demand. The U.S. is expected to be the world’s top exporter.

  254. Bitterlaw says:

    My coal mining ancestors were proud that they mined anthracite (hard coal). They were very disrespectful of those who mined bituminous coal (soft coal). Apparently, my grandmother said things like the soft coal miners sat to pee. Those were fighting words in 1905.

  255. Mr.Vito says:

    Siena/NYT:

    WI-01 (Paul Ryan)

    Steil(R) 50
    Bryce(D) 44

  256. Mr.Vito says:

    Goober is a Trumpaloon now.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/09/13/lindsey_graham_to_laura_ingraham_latest_stzrokpage_texts_scream_for_a_special_counsel.html

    “These new text messages from Sztrok and Page about leaking information about the FISA warrant process to the media is just one of a series of events that scream for a Special Counsel,” Graham told Ingraham.

    “What I can’t get over is how much more has to be uncovered at the Department of Justice regarding a political agenda. The Department of Justice and the FBI were political operatives when it came to Trump, they weren’t investigators.”

    Graham also said he wished Attorney General Jeff Sessions would talk more about the reported abuses that have taken place in DOJ and FBI, but fingered Rosenstein as the party responsible for investigating those agencies.

    “I don’t know why Rosenstein, who’s in charge of this process, doesn’t see what I see: an out of control Department Justice and FBI,” Graham said.

  257. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    262. My grandfather who migrated from Finland actually was a coal miner when he first arrived, in the State of Washington. It was a normal entry level job for an immigrant. Coal made the industrial revolution possible; and is responsible for our current standard of living. When I was a college student in Utah, worked security at a coal mine in Utah (including during a coal strike). Have nothing but respect for the industry and miners; but its time to transition to cleaner sources of energy.

  258. Mr.Vito says:

    NYDailyNews: Bronx teacher who performed oral sex on 14-year-old gets 10 years probation, avoids jail, keeps teaching certificate

  259. Tina says:

    Looks like Kavanaugh is being accused for locking a girl in a classroom during high school.

    Muh Harassment, wrote the Jebot loon.

  260. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Can someone explain to me why John “Frenchy” Kerry’s passport and security clearance have not been suspended after his admissions of anti- USA shadow diplomacy?
    He is one of the most despicable political creatures in my lifetime. Maybe the most.
    Even Messy would agree!

  261. Wes says:

    I think Kerry should have lost his passport and security for the cardinal sin of losing to GWB in 2004, Sheep. That was a crime against humanity.

  262. mnw says:

    A SUSA poll has MN AG tied, fwiw.

    There’s a bunch of other polls at RRH, which may or may not have been noted here. I know we discussed PA-07. Not sure about a few of the others.

  263. Bitterlaw says:

    Probation? That teacher should be beaten with a baseball bat once a week for 10 years.

  264. Bitterlaw says:

    Will Wes surrender his passport for voting for GWB in 2000 and 2004?

  265. mnw says:

    WSJ this morning, by Jeffry Bartash, reporter:

    (headline) Retail sales grew by smallest amount (+0.2%) in 6 months, but spending poised to rebound

    (FTA) The slowdown in retail sales in August is almost certainly a blip.

    The U.S. economy is entering the fall with a heady dose of momentum. Strong hiring, low unemployment and rising income– not to mention Trump’s tax cuts– have given Americans plenty of money to spend.

    Households are also in good shape. The savings rate is fairly high at almost 7%, and the amount of money Americans owe is still near a 20-year low.

    …(but muh hurrycane!)

  266. Toast says:

    Anyone seen Jelly?

  267. DW says:

    here is RDELBOV’s take on the Kavanaugh report:

    “The secret Kavanaugh letter-that has been in Feistein’s office for months-apparently involves an incident at a high school party. Seventeen year old Kavanaugh and another youth apparently tricked a classmate into walking into a room then they locked the door. They waited for the all the fun to happy to this teenager in a room by herself. After a few panicked moments of being locked in a room (not a closet but a room) by herself with 20 other teenagers 20 feet away. She either managed to unlock the door or crawled out a window or somehow managed to escape from this room. No frantic calls to the police or high school suspensions. I don’t get it myself and apparently the FBI and others do not believe that event means very much. I do wonder if there was some teenage drinking but this seems to be much ado about nothing.”

    My goodness…if this is the worse thing Kavanaugh has ever done, and we must assume that it is, because Democrats would have found it if there was something worse, then quickly confirm this guy to the SCOTUS as he sounds like a saint. Better get him now in case there is an opening for Pope or something.

    Of course the left are the biggest hypocrites in the world…pushing a story like this while each and every one of them has done things worse than this.

  268. mnw says:

    They want to push the vote until after the election, to protect their spotted owls out in the red states.

  269. Messy says:

    225. Stalin blamed the deaths of the three million peasants he starved to death in the Great Famine on their wanting to make him look bad.
    THIS. IS. HOW. NARCISSISM. WORKS.

    192. It’s been reported that the normalization of holocaust denial on the internet is to treat it as “satire” or a joke. Then it keeps getting repeated, like the version about Puerto Rico is here (see 225), then by doing so, it gets taken for granted.

    Yeah, I know that Trump didn’t deliberately kill 3 thousand people, nor did he ACTUALLY kill them…BUT…His like Erdogon’s denial of the Armenian genocide of a century ago, he attacked the loved ones of those who died in the aftermath of Maria by saying that their suffering never happened. As did some here. (see 225 and 175)

  270. GPO says:

    hmm- we must have read different articles. The one I read said he has made a plea deal.

  271. mnw says:

    Remember! No 9/11 if Gore had won! (Ebola!)

    STFU, three iii’s.

  272. janz says:

    The dems apparently have to look into a candidate’s teen years in order to dig up alleged dirt, that might tarnish a candidate’s reputation and derail them from the office they are seeking. Like Kavanaugh’s prank in high school, they also tried to embellish Romney’s youthful misdeed of cutting someone’s hair to make him “look bad.”

    As an aside, here’s an encouraging article about The Media’s Latest Poll Dance.

  273. mnw says:

    Consumer sentiment hits 100.8, easily topping expectations.

  274. Mr.Vito says:

    “192. It’s been reported…”

    …that you’re a numbskull.

  275. Phil says:

    282, not important, mnw. Small potatoes compared to 17 year old Kavanaugh locking a 17 year old girl in a room at a party back in high school. Get your priorities right. Hell there is no telling what this monster did in junior high. Special prosecutor. Now!

  276. Mr.Vito says:

    Papadopolous ‘flipped’ too.

    And CNN said his plea deal was a “much bigger problem for Trump.”

  277. mnw says:

    47/51

    New RAS FL GOV polldwill be out later this morning. (RAS had FL SEN tied.)

  278. mnw says:

    RAS FL GOV:

    Gillum (D) 48

    DeSantis (R) 42

  279. Wes says:

    Let me get this straight:

    Kavanaugh and a buddy locked a girl in a room at a party with other people present. No one was hurt. Police were never called. No sexual situation was at its core.

    THIS is how Dems expected to derail Kavanaugh?

    That’s not even an Anita Hill-level allegation. I imagine most voters will laugh. The FBI was probably miffed to have Feinstein waste its time.

  280. Wes says:

    DeSantis needs to start playing hardball before Gillum builds an insurmountable lead. That may be why the RGA just dropped a ton of money into FL.

  281. Messy says:

    testing one two three.

  282. Messy says:

    280. Okay, babycakes. Science says otherwise.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26976083
    In the studies reported here, we conducted longitudinal analyses of preelection polling data to test whether an Ebola outbreak predicted voting intentions preceding the 2014 U.S. federal elections. Analyses were conducted on nationwide polls pertaining to 435 House of Representatives elections and on state-specific polls pertaining to 34 Senate elections. Analyses compared voting intentions before and after the initial Ebola outbreak and assessed correlations between Internet search activity for the term “Ebola” and voting intentions. Results revealed that (a) the psychological salience of Ebola was associated with increased intention to vote for Republican candidates and (b) this effect occurred primarily in states characterized by norms favoring Republican Party candidates (the effect did not occur in states with norms favoring Democratic Party candidates). Ancillary analyses addressed several interpretational issues. Overall, these results suggest that disease outbreaks may influence voter behavior in two psychologically distinct ways: increased inclination to vote for politically conservative candidates and increased inclination to conform to popular opinion.

  283. Wes says:

    Can you explain to us how Ebola “cost” the Dems the 2014 elections again, Messy?

    That was a howler right up there with MD’s confidently declaring Dems would win in 2014 because “the past is not prologue!.”

  284. Wes says:

    I don’t believe it. Messy is actually still claiming Ebola cost the Dems 2014. It had nothing to do with the GOP candidates running or the unpopular Dem President or the polling showing Dems were in trouble well before Ebola became a news item.

    By the way, Messy, your own article contradicts you. It explicitly says Republicans voted more Republican after Ebola hit the news while Dems did not. In other words, you’re an idiot for claiming Dems were “doing fine” before it and lost because of it.

  285. Redmen4ever says:

    Obama claims credit for Florence reducing from a CAT 4 to a CAT 2 hurricane.

  286. Messy says:

    Well Wes, the vast amount of news coverage on the epidemic in Africa and the fake news proffered by conservative media blaming Democrats for bringing it into the United States, caused a fall in Democratic ratings just enough to lose the senate.

    Yeah, there’s a paywall for the link, but it’s well worth it.

  287. Messy says:

    294. Link please?

  288. Wes says:

    By the way, Messy, Ebola hit the US on 9-30-14. Dems were already struggling in most of the seats they lost before then.

    You were just trying to find an excuse because you can’t grasp the idea that Americans may have been voting against the unpopular racebaiting President at the time.

  289. jason says:

    caused a fall in Democratic ratings just enough to lose the senate.”

    Hey Messy, what about the Tooth Fairy?

    Do you believe in that too?

  290. Wes says:

    An Ebola outbreak in September is why Democrats were already trailing or struggling in a ton of seats well before it. Seriously Dems had already written off MT, WV, and SD and were not doing very well in CO, AR, AK, and LA by this time. Their candidate was collapsing in IA, but polls showing a 2008 turnout in NC gave them hope of victory in NC. Of course someone had a time machine, went forward to September and October and saw the Ebola outbreak and fear mongered people months before the actual appearance to get this result.

    Ay Dios Mio…

    You’ve said some stupid things, but this is beyond ridiculous.

  291. Diamond Jim says:

    CCC

  292. jason says:

    Messy hardest hit.

    “On Wednesday, The Wall Street Journal reported that any potential deal was unlikely to include an explicit requirement that Manafort help Mueller in his investigation of the Trump campaign’s possible links to Russia.”

  293. Wes says:

    Messy, Ebola hit the US on 9-30-14. On 9-28-14, Nate Silver declared Republicans were likely to win the Senate. Did Silver have a crystal ball showing him the future and declare Republicans would win based on the upcoming stateside Ebola outbreak?

  294. Wes says:

    In the Messyverse, polls aside, Dems were doing so fine in 2014 Nate Silver declared the GOP would pick up the Senate just for the hell of it. Then two days later, a literal act of God saved Silver from being wrong.

    Do I have that right?

  295. gameboy says:

    #287

    There is no way a guy like the Gillum dude will win in FL. If he does…..the country has truly “jumped the shark”.

  296. jason says:

    sults revealed that (a) the psychological salience of Ebola was associated with increased intention to vote for Republican candidates”

    I bet this is fake science anyway, sounds like liberals trying to justify their pre-conceived notions.

  297. Robbie says:

    I’m dubious this cooperation agreement has anything to with Trump. Manafort and Trump had entered into their own legal defense agreement. The Trump side knew what Manafort knew and the cooperation deal between the two sides never ended as was the case with Flynn and Trump.

    Bill Hatfield
    @billhatfield

    Federal prosecutor Andrew Weissman calls Paul Manafort’s plea agreement a “cooperation agreement.”

  298. Robbie says:

    The New Yorker story about Kavanaugh is thin gruel.

    First, DiFi had the letter for two months and chose not to do anything with it until the very, very end of the process when confirmation appears all but certain.

    Second, the accuser doesn’t even want to come forward and rejected an interview request by Ronan Farrow.

    Third, this supposedly happened in 1982 when Kavanaugh was supposedly 17, there are no witnesses, a contemporary report, and two of the three supposedly involved reject the story.

    This is the smear of smears. McConnell should call the vote for today and end this charade now.

  299. Phil says:

    Agree with Robbie. Call the vote. Enough is enough.

  300. DW says:

    Breaking:

    There was an Ebola outbreak last night in WI_01 as the Siena poll’s last day of polling that race found the Republican pulling away, winning the poll 50/44 over the Democrat challenger.

  301. lisab says:

    “and assessed correlations between Internet search activity for the term “Ebola” and voting intentions.”

    messy’s own abstract contradicts his statements

    the article makes no claim of causality at all

    i am sure republicans are also correlated with searching for pickup trucks

  302. lisab says:

    also, surprisingly

    my coal stove makes almost no smoke

    i thought it would be very smelly, nope

    just glorious heat in abundance. it seems to give off twice as much heat as a wood stove — and my wood stove is very nice.

    it gives off a lot more smoke though — which smells nice. 🙂

    would definitely buy again

  303. jason says:

    So anyone can now allege without any proof that they were assaulted in high school and derail someone’s career and reputation decades later.

    Amoral Scumbag will be proud….

  304. DW says:

    The Ebola outbreak must have spread to WI_01 from TX_23, because the Siena poll found the Republican well ahead there despite the forecasters all saying the race was a tossup.

    Only possible explanation for the disparity between what is supposed to happen and what the voters are saying.

  305. jason says:

    Third, this supposedly happened in 1982 when Kavanaugh was supposedly 17, there are no witnesses, ”

    LOL

    Amoral Scumbag didn’t need “witnesses” when it was Roy Moore, but now “witnesses” are needed.

  306. lisab says:

    here is the story with kavanaugh

    i was at this party, and i brought guiness stout as usual … because most teens don’t like it and i get it all to myself

    kavanaugh got mad because he wanted me to bring coors … well … needless to say there is NO WAY i would bring coors to a party … i have a reputation to maintain

    so we had words and he locked me in a room … WITHOUT my guiness … well … obviously he is a jerk

  307. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 14, 2018 at 12:20 pm
    Third, this supposedly happened in 1982 when Kavanaugh was supposedly 17, there are no witnesses, ”
    LOL
    Amoral Scumbag didn’t need “witnesses” when it was Roy Moore, but now “witnesses” are needed.

    – I see you still want to do on the Roy Moore hill.

    Hey, dummy. The woman went on the record and good ole Roy was banned from a local mall for his behavior with teenage girls.

  308. lisab says:

    jason,

    amoral scumbag has made TWO reasonable posts today

    that is a record for him

    don’t ruin it he is on a roll

  309. NYCmike says:

    I should not – I agree with Robbie that the vote should be held for Kavanaugh.

  310. NYCmike says:

    Also, Nikki Haley has been found to be guilty of profligate spending…….she should resign!**

    **If I can find the article, please read it. Pretty funny story with the headline combined with the actual facts in the case!

  311. Wes says:

    With this latest revelation, I don’t see how Kavanaugh wins confirmation sans an Ebola outbreak.

  312. NYCmike says:

    #319 – “not” = note

  313. NYCmike says:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/us/politics/nikki-haley-curtains.html

    -Headline: “State Department Spent $52,701 on Curtains for Nikki Haley’s Residence”

    Included in the article was this line: “A spokesman for Ms. Haley said plans to buy the curtains were made in 2016, during the Obama administration. Ms. Haley had no say in the purchase, he said.”

  314. Bitterlaw says:

    Ebola changed the outcome of the election? If Trump said something so stupid, Messy would howl.

    Oddly enough, diabetes does not impact elections.

  315. Bitterlaw says:

    I almost never agree with Robbie but at least he fights. It keeps things interesting. Far better to have him posting than let HHR become an Echo Chamber.

  316. Wes says:

    Of course Robbie would receive more respect from us if pining for JEB! didn’t give him such a jaundiced view of—well, everything.

  317. lisab says:

    solar power is for weanies …

    coal all the way!

  318. lisab says:

    in fairness, i would mostly use my wood stove, which gives off a fair amount of heat and smells really nice,

    as opposed to my coal stove, which has no detectable smell and just gives off glorious heat

    if i did not live so far north

  319. Redmen4ever says:

    The post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy:

    This is common in economics and policy analysis. In the extreme, it is a before and after study. In more sophisticated models, it is a time series analysis.

    Let’s say you have a series of observations, y1, y2, y3, …, yt-1, yt, yt+1, …; where an event, x, occurs at yt. It is tempting to think the change in y at yt is caused by x.

    y and x could refer, e.g., to deaths in Puerto Rico following a storm, or voter intentions following an outbreak of ebola.

    The problem with this approach is that almost all economic time series are highly trended. Therefore, there will almost certainly be a correlation between y and x in any short span of time. And, classical measures of statistical analysis over short periods of time are practically useless. (As to what is a sufficiently long period of time for correlations to be statistically meaningful, it depends of the ergodicity of the time series, or how independent yt is from yt-1.)

    I’m not saying that the method is bad. Only that classical measures of statistical significance are exaggerated. Alternately, I’m saying that the correct answer is replication with independent data sets, not the applications of increasingly sophisticated models to a given data set.

    I applaud my friends in the other social sciences who are getting “into” modelling. It took us economists several generations of farting around with models before we figured out the limits of modeling. We hope our near brethren are a little quicker on the uptake.

  320. lisab says:

    lack of pirates cause global warming!!!

    become a pirate and save the planet!

    it’s true, the number of pirates and global temperatures is highly correlated!

    https://churchoftheflyingspaghettimonsteraustralia.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/pchart1.jpg

  321. Paul says:

    271: The teacher was kind of cute so she only gets probation.

  322. Messy says:

    278, 301. How? Manafort flipped. Period.

  323. jason says:

    almost never agree with Robbie but at least he fights.”

    He has the moral compass of a floating turd.

    He doesn’t “fight”. He regurgitates talking points by the left wing propaganda sources.

    He doesn’t keep this from being an echo chamber. That would only happen if he actually had an original thought that wasn’t an MSM talking point.

  324. jason says:

    Manafort flipped. Period.”

    On what exactly?

    However, a source close to the defense told POLITICO, “the cooperation agreement does not involve the Trump campaign. … There was no collusion with Russia.”

  325. NYCmike says:

    “He regurgitates talking points by the left wing propaganda sources.”

    -I like it best when he repeats tweets from Republicans that are bad for Trump, but then leaves out the 2nd part of that same statement which throws doubt onto the first part.

  326. Wes says:

    Amazingly the RRH “Republicans” are defending Kavanaugh. Honestly I expected that band of linguine-spined anti-Republicans to side with the Dems.

    Kudos to them for standing up for truth.

  327. jason says:

    This Hogg moron is supposed to be anti-gun advocate.

    But now he is concerned about the curtains at Nikki Haley’s residence, curtains which she didn’t order and that were bought by the Obama administration.

    In any event, what does Nikki Haley have to do with gun control?

  328. jason says:

    Has Gloria All Red gotten involved yet?

  329. Todd McCain says:

    Dave Wasserman??Verified account? @Redistrict · 1h1 hour ago

    ? More

    Interesting rumblings out of #FL27, a seat that should be “in the bag” for Dems in this enviro. Donna Shalala (D) hasn’t put Maria Elvira Salazar (R) away.

    18 replies 30 retweets 60 likes

    ? Reply
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    ? Retweet
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    Like 60

    ? Direct message

  330. NYCmike says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/video-shows-fight-involving-principal-192834628.html

    -This video looks like the student hit someone, then was running away, and got grabbed by the principal who threw him on floor.

    I applaud this principal’s willingness to get in between these young kids who are fighting, and hope that the kids are thrown out, and the principal receives a medal of some sort.

  331. NYCmike says:

    “Interesting rumblings out of #FL27, a seat that should be “in the bag” for Dems in this enviro.”

    -This should make “conservative Republican” Robbie thrilled…….oh wait, that would be good for Republicans…….scratch that!

  332. NYCmike says:

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/fans-chant-build-wall-high-012641588.html

    -Then you have these arseholes, who brings politics into a high school football environment.

    The parents of the kids who made the signs (or maybe the parents themselves?) should be ashamed of their behavior.

  333. jason says:

    Weird… how did Grassley get these 65 women to write a letter so fast….? Sounds like he was ready for the Hail Mary.

    “After The New Yorker published its report, Senator Chuck Grassley, the Chairman of the Judiciary, released a letter sent to him by 65 women who say they knew Kavanaugh in high school.

    “We are women who have known Brett Kavanaugh for 35 years, and knew him while he attended high school between 1979 and 1983,” they write. “For the entire time we have known Brett Kavanaugh, he has behaved honorably and treated women with respect.”

  334. jason says:

    And of course, this not even the point.

    Let’s say Kavanaugh was a real jerk in high school.

    So what?

    You throw way decades of his career since then because of that?

    Surreal.

  335. jason says:

    in fairness, i would mostly use my wood stove, which gives off a fair amount of heat and smells really nice,

    as opposed to my coal stove, which has no detectable smell and just gives off glorious heat

    if i did not live so far north”

    How far is your outhouse from the back door? It’s a long 75 feet here….

  336. jason says:

    “I see you still want to do on the Roy Moore hill”

    Messy could have written this, but it was Amoral Scumbag.

  337. Wes says:

    Feinstein: Bishop to E3.

    Grass let: Queen to D2. Checkmate.

  338. CG says:

    Anybody who would compare Judge Roy Moore to Judge Brett Kavanaugh ought to be ashamed of themselves.

  339. NYCmike says:

    Anybody who would be pissed at the policies followed by President Trump as compared to the policies followed by President Obama, and if she had been elected, President Hillary Clinton, ought to be ashamed of themselves.

  340. CG says:

    If the policies suck, they suck, regardless of what came first. I want policies that don’t suck.

    And Trump is scum, whether his policies suck or not, and many of them do.

  341. Messy says:

    334. The headline in Drudge and about a dozen other websites is: “Manafort Flips.”

    Meuller wouldn’t have it any other way. His defense attorneys are still angling for a pardon.

  342. NYCmike says:

    “And Trump is scum, whether his policies suck or not, and many of them do.”

    -And all of the rest are saints!

    Trump has been horrible on spending……but that is not much different than ALL of his predecessors in the last 80 years.

    His policies suck? How about if you compare them to what Obama, and/or Hillary, would have slammed through?

    OH YEAH, they look a heck of a lot better!

    IF you are HONEST with yourself, and us, that you are a “conservative Republican”.

  343. CG says:

    As a conservative Republican, but also as an American and a human being first, I will never get past the fact that he is a horrible, unworthy person who demonstrates his lowliness on a daily basis. People here know this is true but choose not to acknowledge it publicly. So be it.

    And also, many of his policies, to the extent he can put forth a rationale policy view, are diametrically opposed to the kind of Reagan conservatism I believe in and he never has. The policies and results that get implemented that I approve of, I attribute to the “steady state” people within his Administration who are working to prevent him from doing worse.

  344. NYCmike says:

    “As a conservative Republican, but also as an American and a human being first, I will never get past the fact that he is a horrible, unworthy person who demonstrates his lowliness on a daily basis.”

    -Again, which angels are you using when making comparisons to Trump?

    I would say that while he has done things that I would not have done, and consider his morals a bit on the weaker side, I also know that I’ll look at him as a person who has done wonderful things for people, either by employing them, housing them, donating to certain causes, as well as helping to transform a city environment from a decrepit, blighted landscape into one of vibrancy, high spirits, full of commerce and culture.

    You must not put too much stock into those things.

    ENJOY CHICAGO.

  345. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    328. “in fairness, i would mostly use my wood stove, which gives off a fair amount of heat and smells really nice, as opposed to my coal stove, which has no detectable smell and just gives off glorious heat if i did not live so far north.”

    Early in the 20th century coal furnaces were common, people had coal delivered by a truck through a chute into a basement coal bin. People had to feed coal into the furnace during the day and maintain the fire. A lot of work.

    Now the cool kids have solar panels. At night when it is cold, you just just go on the roof, dust them off and the sun will . . . oh, never mind.

  346. jason says:

    Anybody who would compare Judge Roy Moore to Judge Brett Kavanaugh ought to be ashamed of themselves.”

    Is that what you are doing?

    Because nobody else here compared Roy Moore to Kavanaugh.

  347. Messy says:

    334. IN case anyone,especially Jason, is interested, here’s a link from the Conservative leaning “the Hill” Showing the Manafort plea deal in FULL, and it says He’s supposed to cooperate on ALL things that Meuller’s people want him to on any subject. Period.
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/406737-read-manaforts-cooperation-agreement-with-mueller

    2+2=4.

  348. jason says:

    The policies and results that get implemented that I approve of, I attribute to the “steady state” people within his Administration who are working to prevent him from doing worse.”

    LOL, this gets the Intellectual Dishonesty Award of the month.

    Translation: Trump is responsible for what I don’t like about him, but he is not responsible for what I do like about him.

    When you are THAT hypocritical, you really need professional help.

  349. CG says:

    No “angels”, just normalcy.

    The standard that I grew up to believe America was about and the values that I was taught human decency was about. He fails on a daily basis in ways big and small. Long, long after he is gone, and all of us are gone, those standards and values will endure, I hope.

    You can look at his entire record, public and private, and the things you try to comfort yourself with and realize that everything he has touched has eventually failed. America shouldn’t be about some self-proclaimed godlike figure among men to do “wonderful things” for them. He should not be a “father figure” to anyone except the children he did father. America should be about people having the freedom and liberty to do for themselves.

    For me, no amount of money, fame, of self-accolades can substitute for decency, dignity, and sacrifice.

    You can put stock into what you wish. I haven’t tried to change your mind and you will never change mine.

  350. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    353. “As a conservative Republican, but also as an American and a human being first, I will never get past the fact that he is a horrible, unworthy person who demonstrates his lowliness on a daily basis.’

    Are you referring to Hillary or Trump? When you have this sort of choice you vote for the one who will enact the right policies. Despite his character issues, Trump has accomplished a lot more than his predecessor. Hillary would have been a nightmare.

  351. lisab says:

    grand jury has been set up for fisa courts

  352. CG says:

    You sure did make the comparison jason when you equated the totally unfounded and unequivocally denied “charges” that are being made against Judge Kavanaugh today and the mountain of evidence to suggest that Roy Moore did many inappropriate things for a long time that people knew about, and of course caused him to not be able to get his own story straight on the matter.

    It was one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen on here. I doubt you actually believe it but are just “fishing” as usual.

  353. jason says:

    This is why Messy is unhappy…

    “Not only can Manafort “reduce his sentence and legal bills,” said Barbara McQuade, a former attorney and law professor at the University of Michigan who watched Manafort’s first trial in the courtroom, “he can also help President Trump by avoiding damaging daily headlines for the next several weeks in the run up to the midterm elections.”

  354. CG says:

    360. I believe whenever someone is unworthy, you should oppose them, as I did both Hillary and Trump. Didn’t you say you did the same?

  355. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    351. “Meuller wouldn’t have it any other way”

    So Messy, when did you become a spokesperson for Mueller? Are you a mind reader? — is there a gypsy with a crystal ball down the street channeling Mueller? I love the assumptions that trolls make.

  356. lisab says:

    “I believe whenever someone is unworthy, you should oppose them, as I did both Hillary”

    i don’t remember you posting anything against hillary

  357. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    364. I did not vote for Trump, I voted for Evan McMullin. But I support Trump’s policies, and think he has done a lot of good. Also like the way he is taking on the corrupt entrenched bureaucracy. My views are similar to Romney’s about Trump, will support his policies, but criticize his improper conduct.

  358. jason says:

    You sure did make the comparison jason when you equated the totally unfounded and unequivocally denied “charges” that are being made against Judge Kavanaugh today and the mountain of evidence to suggest that Roy Moore did many inappropriate things for a long time that people knew about, and of course caused him to not be able to get his own story straight on the matter.”

    You are a pathological liar.

    I never compared Kavanaugh to Roy Moore. I have always been clear that Roy Moore was a scumbag that should never have gotten nominated and that he had no respect for the rule of law.

    What I said was that decade old accusations stemming from uncorroborated event without witnesses should never be able to derail someone’s career or reputation. At least some of the accusations against Moore fit that description, if not all of them.

    There were many reasons to oppose Roy Moore, a deadender idiot, chief among them was his blatant refusal to abide by the rule of law and the Constitution.

    Now GFY.

  359. CG says:

    I will “support” the policies I agree with, but I don’t even know what that is supposed to entail.

    It definitely does not mean I have to like, support, or vote for Donald Trump.

    Neither Mitt Romney nor I will be doing so if he runs again.

  360. lisab says:

    fisa applications may be released on monday

  361. jason says:

    don’t remember you posting anything against hillary”

    Of course not.

    She was a compromising moderate, non-ideological in fact.

  362. CG says:

    There is no comparison between the charges against Moore, which were made by people coming forward publicly and had a large amount of corroboration and spoke to a pattern of behavior of his as an adult and the b.s. “charge” being thrown against Kavanaugh today.

    Anybody who wants to “support” Kavanaugh should keep the despicable name of Roy Moore out of their mouths by making such a comparison.

  363. CG says:

    Of course, over at the left-wing blog I post at, (the one that NYC couldn’t put up with)the liberals there suggest I am “obsessed” with Hillary and the Clintons in general and that I bend over backwards to defend Trump and his policies.

    Everyone online is going to have their own perspective I am sure. I just think I am being consistent no matter who I converse with.

  364. jason says:

    Neither Mitt Romney nor I will be doing so if he runs again.”

    I never heard or read anywhere that says Romney say he wouldn’t vote for Trump in 2020.

    Show me the quote.

    I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016. I may very well vote for him in 2020 because I am willing to admit the 2016 election is over and we are faced with a new set of facts and events.

    I am sure Romney probably agrees the same. When asked directly if he will vote for Trump in 2020 Romney said it was “too early”.

    Despite Corey’s blatant lies, here are some actual quotes:

    DEER VALLEY, UTAH — Republican Senate candidate Mitt Romney bluntly predicted here on Thursday evening that President Donald Trump would win reelection in 2020.

    “Addressing a group of major GOP donors, Romney — who bitterly collided with Trump during the 2016 campaign and implored his party to nominate someone else — also said Trump would easily capture the Republican Party’s 2020 nomination.

    He said Trump’s political fortunes would be bolstered by a pair of factors: an improving economy and the likelihood that Democrats would choose an outside-the-mainstream candidate.

    “I think President Trump will be re-nominated by my party easily, and I think he’ll be reelected solidly,” Romney said.

    and

    “Last month, Romney penned an op-ed for The Salt Lake Tribune vowing to speak out against Trump when necessary, and said he would continue to oppose the president if he said something “racist or divisive.”

    But he has also praised the president in recent weeks, saying that his first year in office was “very similar” to what Romney’s presidency would have looked like and that he thought it was “better than expected.”

    Romney states that his Presidency would “have looked like his own”.

    Obviously he is smarter than Corey, but we knew that.

  365. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “She was a compromising moderate, non-ideological in fact.”

    Am looking forward to a repeat of the Hillary vs. Bernie primary race in 2020. For some reason 73% of all Democratic voters in a poll want a different candidate than Hillary.

  366. CG says:

    He sure hasn’t said he will vote for Trump, and he has been asked that question several times. There’s no reason for him to answer otherwise at this time.

    I trust if and when the time comes (and who knows if Trump will even be running again), he will say what he has to say.

    Since that story that was cut and pasted, Romney wrote a very eloquent piece speaking out against Trump’s racism. I doubt he will ever vote for DJT. If he does, I will be disappointed and will disapprove.

  367. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Lets not forget that Trump came close to appointing Romney as his Secretary of State (the effort was blocked by other people). Trump also sent Romney a warm congratulations on winning the Utah primary. The two actually have a pretty decent relationship.

  368. jason says:

    There is no comparison between the charges against Moore,”

    Ahhh, so the compulsive liar is now moving the goalposts, changing “comparing Kavanaugh to Moore” to “comparing the charges”.

    But even that is wrong.

    The only comparison I made was in context to Amoral Scumbag’s assertion that Kavanaugh’s accuser had no witnesses, and I pointed out that was not a problem for him when the accused was Roy Moore. He was willing to believe any MSM charge against Moore no matter how uncorroborated it was.

    GFY again.

  369. CG says:

    Just last month, Romney said, “it must be electorally disqualifying to equivocate on racism.”

    Clearly, people here disagree with that sentiment, but Trump is on record saying Romney is a “straight shooter” and anybody who might agree with that assessment should check out the essay that Romney penned last month.

  370. CG says:

    He should have picked Romney as Secretary of State. I very much wanted it to happen, but Romney would have been fired by now for that job. I assume his intention was to join the “steady state” in the same way the recent Op-ed writer suggests many people in the Trump Administration are operating.

  371. jason says:

    He sure hasn’t said he will vote for Trump, and he has been asked that question several times. There’s no reason for him to answer otherwise at this time.”

    He said it was too early to say whether he would or not.

    You stated above that he WOULD NOT vote for Trump.

    “Neither Mitt Romney nor I will be doing so if he runs again.”

    So you admit you were lying?

  372. CG says:

    Robbie was correct to defend Judge Kavanaugh.

    -jason was wrong to bring up Roy Moore. He should never have done it.

    There *were* witnesses against Moore. Many of them. There are no witnesses against Kavanaugh.

    Does jason really want Kavanaugh on the court? As soon as the vacancy was announced, jason made a point in saying how in favor he was of Roe v. Wade and abortion rights and how anybody who might possible express support for overturning it should be opposed.

    Maybe jason thinks that if Kavanaugh is voted down, then Trump can pick the pro-choice Rudy Giuliani.

  373. CG says:

    There is no way on Earth that “jason” actually has the personal view that Roy Moore never acted sexually inappropriately with underage girls. There is a mountain of evidence to suggest otherwise, including Moore’s own words and inconsistent stories.

    Sad.

  374. jason says:

    Despite Corey’s incessant lying here is what Romney actually said on July 2.

    “I’m not willing to say who I’m going to support at this stage,” he said. “It’s a little early for that, but the time will come.”

    In the same interview he said Republicans are 90% for Trump, so he thinks he will easily win the nomination.

    If I had to bet, I would say he will probably support Trump this time around.

  375. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is Romney’s statement from the Salt Lake City Tribune on Trump. It was issued shortly before Romney’s primary victory.

    https://www.sltrib.com/opinion/commentary/2018/06/24/mitt-romney-where-i-stand-on-the-trump-agenda/

    When Romney won, Trump tweeted: “Big and conclusive win by Mitt Romney. Congratulations! I look forward to working together– there is so much good to do. A great and loving family will be coming to D.C.”

  376. CG says:

    Romney is a politician seeking office. He is playing it smart. I can afford to be more honest. I won’t have the opportunity for a dramatic press conference or statement on the floor of the U.S. Senate to give in the future.

    But ok, if you prefer, I will state it is my *belief* that Romney will not ever vote for Trump. Time will tell. I have gone on record.

  377. Wes says:

    I’m pro choice, and I support Kavanaugh. I see no realistic chance the Court even if Kavanaugh is on it, will overturn Roe v. Wade.

  378. CG says:

    That’s what Romney said in June, and in August, which comes later in the calendar, he wrote about his disagreements with Trump and said it must be “electorally disqualifying” to equivocate on racism.

    Maybe Romney, with his missionary background, and general wholesomeness believes that it is possible that Trump will one day cease being racist or appealing to racism. I for one, do not think that is possible

  379. mnw says:

    You guys spent all day today interacting with trolls.

  380. jason says:

    There is no way on Earth that “jason” actually has the personal view that Roy Moore never acted sexually inappropriately with underage girls.”

    He may or not be guilty.

    However, I find the “evidence” unpersuasive. I question the timing, the motivation and the sources of the charges. I have done that consistently from the beginning.

    I have always said there are many reasons not to support Roy Moore, and they are a lot more persuasive than pre-election bombshells.

    Regarding Kavanaugh, I have zero problem with his stand on abortion, and I have never written one word here critical of his positions on any subject.

    I have never advocated for Roe vs. Wade to be revoked here, never.

    My personal position is that abortion should be legal in the first trimester. Period.

  381. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    380. “but Romney would have been fired by now for that job.”

    That is your assumption; it has no basis in fact. That is what bothers me about the factual fantasies that the opponents of Trump spin.

  382. CG says:

    Here is the very fine essay that Mitt Romney penned:

    https://action.romneyforutah.com/as-i-see-it-race-and-equality/

    I hope all those who might truly be decent people but for whatever reason allow themselves to overlook all the things Trump has said and done will give it a close read and think it over

  383. jason says:

    But ok, if you prefer, I will state it is my *belief* that Romney will not ever vote for Trump. Time will tell. I have gone on record.”

    That is fair enough.

    I will go on record that IF Trump is the nominee, Romney will support him in 2020.

  384. CG says:

    Roy Moore, as a grown man, was a sleazy perv, and you know it. Everybody knows it. But since Donald Trump endorsed him for Senate, you feel the need to defend him on that count.

    Again, sad.

    Brett Kavanaugh has lived a completely honorable life and I totally take him at his word that he did not hold anyone down against their will when he was 17.

    Most people, even liberals, probably do not believe Kavanaugh did that. The introduction of Roy Moore into the conversation in a weird attempt to defend Kavanaugh was wrong.

  385. jason says:

    mnw says:
    September 14, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    You guys spent all day today interacting with trolls.”

    Sniff, I guess some people have a life and don’t have to do that.

    GFY.

  386. CG says:

    Let me go on record in saying that as a conservative, who believes in life and liberty, as stated in our founding documents, thinks that Roe v. Wade should be overturned.

  387. jason says:

    he introduction of Roy Moore into the conversation in a weird attempt to defend Kavanaugh was wrong.”

    Still making sh-t up, huh?

    It was not an “attempt to defend Kavanaugh”.

    It was an attack on Amoral Scumbag’s hypocrisy.

    Kavanaugh doesn’t need any “defense”. The guy has a decades old record of personal and professional integrity that no amount of “investigation” has been able to tarnish. And it won’t be this ridiculous accusation (if that is what it is) that will do it.

  388. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    388. “That’s what Romney said in June, and in August, which comes later in the calendar, he wrote about his disagreements with Trump and said it must be “electorally disqualifying” to equivocate on racism.”

    Here is Romney’s August comments on racism. Trump is not mentioned at all in the article.

    https://action.romneyforutah.com/as-i-see-it-race-and-equality/

  389. jason says:

    I agree with Kavanaugh that Roe vs. Wade is established law, or however he put it.

  390. Diamond Jim says:

    CD

  391. CG says:

    Robbie showed no hypocrisy on that matter.

    The hypocrisy would be those on the left who will cry about this unfounded allegation against a 17 year old Brett Kavanaugh and his friend, while having remained silent for decades over the public rape allegation made against Bill Clinton when he was Attorney General of his state or the well-documented and corroborated story from 1985, when Ted Kennedy and Chris Dodd, both United States Senators at the time, jointly sexually assaulted a waitress in a Washington D.C, restaurant, while intoxicated.

    The charges against Moore and the allegation against Kavanaugh were in different universes. It should not even occur to anyone to compare them.

    People here were saying that Robbie would claim that Kavanaugh was guilty. Clearly, he did not. Frankly, a lot of you should apologize to him.

  392. CG says:

    SDC, Romney refers to “the President.”

    Whom do you think he is talking about?

  393. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    389. “You guys spent all day today interacting with trolls.”

    Do you feel ignored.

  394. CG says:

    Roe vs. Wade was poorly decided and should be considered unconstitutional.

    It is your right to disagree, but you could not be more wrong.

  395. jason says:

    to equivocate on racism.”

    Nice straw argument, but I never saw Trump “equivocate” on racism.

    He has made statements I interpreted as racist such as when he called a federal judge a “Mexican”. Others disagreed it was racist, fine.

    But I never saw him “equivocate” on racism, in other words, refuse to condemn racism or condone it in any speech.

    That is MSM crap.

  396. jason says:

    Roe vs. Wade was poorly decided and should be considered unconstitutional.”

    From what I saw in the hearings, Kavanaugh did not agree.

  397. CG says:

    Well, being racist is even worse than equivocating on racism.

    I agree, Trump has been racist. You now choose to equivocate on it.

    Romney was speaking specifically of the “good people on both sides” Charlottesville incident. He made that very clear in the lengthy statement he released in August of 2017 and in the one linked above from August of this year.

    If you disagree, you disagree with Romney. Plenty here will say they do.

  398. NYCmike says:

    “America shouldn’t be about some self-proclaimed godlike figure among men to do “wonderful things” for them. He should not be a “father figure” to anyone except the children he did father.”

    -“CG”,

    Did anyone here say that Trump did something for me?

    He DID do something for the city, and his own fortune, and it was to the betterment of our society, in my humble opinion.

    That, IN NO WAY WHATSOEVER, makes me think of him as “godlike” or as a “father figure”.

    You have some serious mental issues to make such a leap.

    YIKES!

  399. CG says:

    That’s what they have to say.

    If you truly do not want the Supreme Court to overturn Roe vs. Wade one day, then you are in a minority among people who would call themselves conservatives. You can have any belief you want, but it makes it hard for you to try to call out other people for being “liberal” for disagreeing with you on such a fundamental matter of Life.

  400. NYCmike says:

    Trump is not a racist.

  401. CG says:

    NYC, you were claiming those he gave jobs to should look up to him as if they owe everything to him.

    He’s been a bad businessman (while great at self-branding to be sure), who has failed over and over again and whatever charitable contributions he has given (and there seems to be some angles to that as well), it does not make up for the damage he has done at the same time.

  402. Wes says:

    While I agree with you regarding hypocrisy on the Left, Corey, Chris Dodd did not sexually assault the waitress. He was passed out on the table. Then Kennedy grabbed the waitress, threw her on Dodd, and began dryhumping her.

    Dodd was there but was innocent in the attack.

  403. CG says:

    As fun as this is, I need to finish up on some work for the week before I leave… Jewish holidays are making it a shorter than usual month for me and I need to pull myself away from this discussion.

    Bye.

  404. CG says:

    The version I read today did not mention Dodd was passed out but that he and Kennedy were both doing the assault together.

    What I do know is that Dodd ran for President in 2008 and was never once asked about this. It was considered “ancient history” from way back in 1985…

    But now, the same people will demand answers from Kavanaugh over something from 1982 when he was 17, and which almost certainly did not occur.

  405. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    Every employer I had I have thanked him for the opportunity when and if I departed from his company.

    I did look up to them as employers, as they take many risks that employees do not.

    Maybe one day you will try it.

  406. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    398. Agree he made reference to Trump’s past comments about Charlottesville, but do not see any new attack by Romney on Trump in the August article. The Salt Lake City Tribune commentary
    represents Romney’s current position. He had the integrity to write it prior to the primary, so the voters knew where he was coming from. Trump sent him a strong congratulations on his win. That is where it stands.

  407. NYCmike says:

    “He’s been a bad businessman (while great at self-branding to be sure), who has failed over and over again…”

    -Again, to whom are you comparing him to?

    MANY successful people have failed MANY times.

    Trump has done some things that skirt the lines of decency and ethical conduct, in regards to his failings.

    He has not done anything illegal.

    Unless you want to ignore the law, and go with a moral code like sharia, similar to Muslim countries…….

  408. Wes says:

    Penn Jillette—who worked with Trump on The Apprentice one season and has no affiliation with the Democratic Party—claims Trump has an unstable personality and made racist statements during filming of the season Jillette was on.

    I see no evidence of racism in Trump myself, but at the same time I don’t know why Jillette would lie.

  409. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is Romney’s position on Trump, from the SL Tribune article. I believe they will have a good working relationship.

    Romney: “If you elect me your senator, I will fight with vigor for the interests of our state and nation. I will endorse the president’s policies that support those interests. Hopefully, there will be few occasions where I will be compelled by conscience to criticize. But, as I have said throughout this campaign, I will call them like I see them. Last week, the president said I’m a straight shooter; I will endeavor to be just so.

  410. Wes says:

    All this video needs is to have Judas Priest’s “Breakin’ the Law” played over it:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEp29cF4Cls

  411. bio mom says:

    The saddest thing about this Kavanaugh smear is the potential effect on his two daughters, ages 10 and 13.

  412. mnw says:

    Wes

    RE: Jillette

    I typed a long post, & it wouldn’t print, I guess because I took too long typing it.

    Jillette has written a book, in which he discussed The Apprentice experience, & didn’t mention racism or instability. Seems like he would have.

    He’s an odd duck. A Libertarian for decades who speaks at their conventions. I’ve read everything he’s written & took my kids to his show in LV 2 yrs ago. I’m a fan.

  413. marc says:

    The Kavanaugh smear seems to have backfired on Senator Feinstein and the Democrats. Justice Kavanaugh will be confirm by the end of this month and seated on the Supreme Court of the next 30 years

  414. marc says:

    The Dems should pay for this smear, hopefully Trump will get one more nomination to pick.

  415. Wes says:

    Mnw:

    http://www.vulture.com/2018/08/penn-jillette-in-conversation.html

    Jillette clearly has a low opinion of Trump. It’s not political either since Jillette is an anarcholibertarian rather than a liberal who endorsed Gary Johnson.

  416. Tina says:

    The Drats do not care about Kavanaughs daughters.

    They were ushered out of the hearings by the protesters.

    China stein is an arse.

  417. Tina says:

    And if true, Kavanaugh has had 5 fib background checks. It would have been uncovered.

    The “accuser” also mentioned Kavanaughs friend, who has denied the “incident.”

  418. mnw says:

    Wes

    OK, I read that interview you linked. Trump “petty” & “narcissistic”? Uh… I think that’s been covered.

    I read an even longer interview with him in Las Vegas Magazine, about a year ago–appx.

    I wouldn’t call the fact that he detested Zero “nonpolitical,” nor his views on Trump. His acknowledged peculiarities: 1) kinky sex; 2)
    ” I’m a storyteller. And storytellers are liars, by definition,” he says.

    I don’t think he can hurt Trump.

    His act is totally nonpolitical. His book is fascinating– how he became successful, after starting as a street juggler, etc.

    He & Teller have been partners for 40 years– longer than guys with 4 wives have been married, he likes to point out. He says the secret of his partnership with Teller is that they don’t socialize. They come to work. Do their job. And then, “OK, see you tomorrow.”

  419. Mr.Vito says:

    Vox
    @voxdotcom
    Clarence Thomas was confirmed despite sexual misconduct allegations. What happens to Brett Kavanaugh will show if anything has changed.

  420. mnw says:

    CO-06:

    Per The Wise Men, the NYT/Siena poll for CO-06 is now complete & shows DEM 50; R-inc 41.

    The Wise Men detect a blue wave in suburban districts like CO-06, with suburban college grads aplenty. They also cite 2 seats in MN– MN-03 & MN-09 (I THINK) for that proposition.

    Looking fwd to reading accounts of Trump rally in Cape G, MO today. Hope Hawley gets a boost.

  421. mnw says:

    My error. Cape G rally cancelled due to hurricane. He’s coming to Springfield, MO next week, however. That is the traditional venue for GOP rallies in MO.

  422. Messy says:

    363. Why would that make me unhappy? BTW.Due to the voluntary confiscations, the Meuller investigation has just made a profit.

  423. mnw says:

    Ebola! Gore would’ve prevented 9/11! GOP Congress blocked Obama’s economic bills “because Obama… is black!”

    three iii’s? Take your bizarre bullish*t elsewhere.

  424. Hugh says:

    DF made it impossible for any rep to vote no on Kavanuagh. Any fair minded person sees this for what it is. She also made it harder for red state dems to vote yes. DF destroyed her own reputation. I love it. Big mistake.

  425. michael corleone says:

    I’m checking out these Siena live polls and I’m sorry, but these are complete push polls. Check out the issue questions they are asking – made up questions regarding reducing illegal immigration which is not central to Trump’s policy plus no questions re the economy. Also it is malpractice to poll on Friday night which they are doing.

  426. mnw says:

    435 sb “bizarre bulls*t”

    Hugh,

    Well, it was a mistake. Not sure yet if it was a BIG mistake. News moves at warp speed these days. I haven’t seen any other DEM climbing on board DF’s gutterslop bandwagon, though. Could be a sign they know raw sewage when they smell it, I guess.

  427. michael corleone says:

    Correction to above – the question is about reducing LEGAL immigration

  428. mnw says:

    corleone

    But they put the issue questions at the end, don’t they?

  429. michael corleone says:

    Do they? In any event, I think you can always change an answer during the course of a poll.

  430. janz says:

    65 women who went to high school at the same time as Kavanaugh did,and knew him, wrote positive letters about his character, totally contradicting Feinstein’s anonymous smear.

  431. mnw says:

    corleone

    I dunno how they do it. If it’s an honest-to-God push poll, they’d put it at the beginning, thus:

    1) “Is your opinion of Rep. John Smith (R-inc) generally favorable or unfavorable?”

    2) (if favorable) “If I told you that Rep. John Smith, the Republican incumbent, is suspected of the Tylenol murders, would that CHANGE your opinion of Rep. Smith?”

  432. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    In the NY Times/Siena Maine CD-2 Poll, Poliquin(R) beats Golden(D) 47% to 42%.

  433. Gpo says:

    MARK SIMONE
    @MarkSimoneNY
    Sources in the Mueller team saying they have completely given up on collusion. That there is absolutely nothing there. They are also giving up on obstruction and are trying to figure out how to end this with some sort of victory.

  434. mnw says:

    Sheep 444

    Thx.

    Thoughts on 432 above?

  435. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    Who knows about these Siena Polls? I will take the bet that Paulson(R) will not lose by 9 in MN-3 or Coffman(R) by 11 in CO CD-6.
    I can no longer get through the paywalls on these polls,but I was able to do so in the Paulson poll and the PID was D+16 in an R+2 district.
    By the way, StrawDog has been eviscerated by the Snowcone on RRH! LOL!!!

  436. michael corleone says:

    #447 – clear your history/cache and your monthly limit on NYT articles will reset.

  437. Cash Cow TM says:

    BITTER,

    MARTINSBURG (WV) HIGH SCHOOL BULLDOGS FOOTBALL TEAM WILL BE TRAVELING TO PHILLY TO PLAY ACADEMY PARK HIGH SCHOOL THIS WEEKEND.

    THE MARTINSBURG TEAM HAS WON 3O SOME GAMES IN A ROW…
    *******************************************
    YOUR CHANCE TO GO SEE THE ‘DOGS!

  438. Cash Cow TM says:

    32 straight games…
    ***************************
    MEANWHILE…in WV…

    AG Morissey and Joe Manchin were supposed to have two debates this fall.

    Seems the one in Oct. will not take place.
    Morissey campaign failed to confirm their participation by the recent deadline.
    So now there will only be one debate in Nov.
    _____________________________
    Congressman Evan Jenkins was appointed to one of two vacancies on the WV Supreme Ct.
    State law says SC people must have a current law license for 10 years prior to serving on the bench.

    For the last several years, Jenkins has put his law license on inactive status for the last several years.

    Lawsuit to stop Jenkins from serving have been filed and will be heard by the WV Supreme Ct.

  439. mnw says:

    Sheep

    I eviscerate back, if and when the occasion strikes me as being the right time to do so. Churchill said that the definition of a “gentlemen” is “someone who never gives offense unintentionally.” That’s quite different than “someone who never gives offense.”

    I intended to upset their smug little Newtonian blue state world. Although I never heard of “Snowcone” before, he/she will fit right in over there.

  440. mnw says:

    451 sb “gentleman is…”

  441. mnw says:

    450 Cash Cow

    A mistake by Morissey?

    If u r the challenger, the more joint appearances the better, right?

    Rosendale made an earlier, unforced error in MT, I thought, as Wes pointed out.

  442. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., is renewing President Barack Obama’s so-called “war on coal” by backing a radical initiative to shut down more than a third of U.S. coal plants by 2020 — a line of attack that spectacularly backfired for Hillary Clinton in 2016.”

    What hypocrisy. The large tech firms in the Bay Area manufacturer their products in China, so they can take advantage of cheap labor and cheap energy supplied by — Coal.

  443. Wes says:

    I’m not seeing a Dem wave. It looks more like a good year for them with their falling short in the House.

  444. lisab says:

    they can NOT fall short in the house

    that would have MAJOR implications for the dems

    too many dems have been telling too many constituents that trump is going down this november

    this would be the second HUGE EMOTIONAL loss in a row.

    the millenials would revolt …

    even if every dead person from the civil war has to vote, the dems MUST win in november

  445. mnw says:

    ‘Allo, Wes. Sapphire? Seems like old times.

    I maintain that AC/DC “Live at Rio Platte” is the best live rock concert ever recorded. I doubt there is any disagreement.

  446. lisab says:

    obviously you have never been to lilith fair

  447. mnw says:

    lilith fair?

    Regret unfamiliar. Will have to google.

  448. Cash Cow TM says:

    450 Cash Cow

    A mistake by Morissey?

    If u r the challenger, the more joint appearances the better, right?
    ********************************
    IMO, yes.
    Was to be held in Wheeling in WV CD1…

  449. mnw says:

    Thx, Cow.

  450. BayernFan says:

    If the Dems don’t take the House…

    Can you imagine the meltdowns? The media? The Trump gloating?? Oh my my.

  451. mnw says:

    BF

    Yes, I hope to see that great morning.

  452. lisab says:

    If the Dems don’t take the House…

    Can you imagine the meltdowns? The media? The Trump gloating?? Oh my my.
    ——————————-

    it would be an epic disaster

  453. Bitterlaw says:

    Corleone is back? I thought he disappeared for good when gays got married and civilization fell.

  454. Messy says:

    testing one two three….

  455. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Wes and mnw:
    Here are four posts in a row from Red Racing Horses which perfectly demonstrate their nutty pessimism:
    CALREP
    September 15, 2018 at 12:36 am | In reply to Manhatlibertarian
    TX7 and TX32 will be lost by the narrowest of margins this time, fact that Dems can get to high 40’s is a huge warning sign. Surprised to see FL26 result.

    Log in to Reply
    IRVINEONLOOKER
    September 15, 2018 at 12:48 am | In reply to calrep
    Nate Cohn seems very worried about the methodology behind the FL-26 poll so far, so that can explain the weird results so far.

    NPP. CA-45

    Log in to Reply
    BOEHNERWASRIGHT
    September 15, 2018 at 12:50 am | In reply to calrep
    According to Nate Cohen who designed the poll the FL-26 poll is currently hugely unrepresentitive. They have problems reaching enough non-white voters. Better to wait until they are done with the whole poll and then look critically at the cross-tabs of this specific poll.

    Log in to Reply
    CALREP
    September 15, 2018 at 1:17 am | In reply to Boehnerwasright
    If GOP keeps the house by narrowest of margins with most Reps representing super rich areas like tony burbs of NJ/VA/CA/TX/IL/MN gone but with people like Curbello/Knight/Denham/Poliquin/Hurd still here, would that get us our real move to middle class populism or would it be a total cluster?

    The newest eeyore on RRH is CALREP!

  456. Messy says:

    445. There are no sources in the Meuller investigation. There have been no leaks at all.

    435, 437. NO BS at all. it’s the little things that sway elections. From 2011 to ’16, very little got done. Quite a few Republicans in the House promoted the birther movement. I’ve given proof about elbola.

    278-79, 334. Manafort flipped. If you look at what was said, you will notice that a bunch of people laughed at me and denied this fact calling me stupid and deluded for saying what everyone knew. Manafort FLIPPED.

  457. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #468
    1- How do you know with such complete certitude?
    2- Here at HHR, you will always be known as The Ebola Madam
    3- Where is the Collusion, Messy?! So far Gates, Papandoupolis, Manafort, Omarosa,, Flynn and the Man on the Moon FLIPPED?! So what if nothing about the Russia Collusion has been provided to the Special Counsel.
    Your mind FLIPPED when you were dropped on your head as a baby!

  458. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw and Wes:
    Sometimes I think that David Wissing created Red Racing Horses so its posters could provide HHR participants a great deal of comic relief!

  459. Tgca says:

    So Mueller has referred to NY prosecutors an Obama WH lawyer for similar charges Manafort had been charged with. This guy was also unregistered foreign agent working with Manafort on Ukraine deals. His previous law firm Skadden, Ars, et.al are also being considered for charges. That would be a BOOM! if they charge an Obama lawyer and powerhouse law firm Skadden.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/14/politics/greg-craig-foreign-agent-registration-investigation/index.html

  460. Tgca says:

    Mueller also referred Dem lobbyist Tony Podesta and GOP Vin Weber. Not sure why no action there yet but if NY prosecutors charge him, then the whole Russia thing falls apart for good because it looks like both Dem and GOP operatives were working the foreign angle for money.

    What a surprise? Lobbyists working to enrich themselves in spite of what’s good for AmeriKa.

  461. Tgca says:

    I like to see Obama and Clinton try to spin this away when their own cronies who worked for them are charged for what Manafort was charged.

    Obama will freak when Trump takes it to Twitter calling him a crook. MSM will argue it’s not the same when Obama folks did it.

  462. Wes says:

    Messy is going to stubbornly cling to his ludicrous idea that Ebola cost the Dems the election. Of course his idea can’t account for how well Republicans were polling before the outbreak nor for why Nate Silver announced Republicans were likely to win the Senate before Ebola came to the states nor why his own link directly contradicts his thesis, but I digress.

    Another howler is his hilarious claim that Republicans opposed Obama’s agenda because Obama’s black. Birtherism never had any traction with congressional Republicans, and the GOP is at least ostensibly a center-right party while Obama governed as an unashamed leftist. It could not be ideology though. It had to be racial. 🙄

    I guess when Republicans opposed the agendas put forth by other liberal Dem Presidents, they were being racist too. Oh, wait. My mistake.

  463. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Is Messy on suicide watch after reading this statement by her hero, Bob Woodward?

    IT’S AS IF THE WHOLE THING WAS MADE UP TO EXCUSE HILLARY’S HUMILIATING DEFEAT: Woodward: No Evidence Of Trump-Russia Collusion, I Searched For Two Years.(H/T: InstaPundit)

  464. jason says:

    Messy has floated a lot of ridiculous claims here, but I think the Ebola one takes the cake.

    As far a opposing the Obama’s agenda being racist, sorry, no.

    Obama’s agenda was opposed because it was a far left nanny state agenda.

    Obama could have compromised when he was riding high in the polls and the Rs were “shocked and awed” after his inauguration, but he listened to Reid and Pelosi who told him he won and should go for broke.

    Had he steered a more moderate course he could have gotten at least 80% of all he wanted on a bi-partisan basis, and the Dems would not have been decimated in the House, Senate, governorships and state legislatures.

    He did get Obamacare passed by the skin of his teeth and loads of pork to get to 60 votes. But the costs to the party were horrendous. None of that has anything to do with the color of his skin.

    I always say conservatives dodged a huge bullet by the fact Obama chose to go full left in his Presidency. Had he not, Dems would probably still be in power.

  465. jason says:

    Graham calls for another special counsel….

    That would be fun.

    “Thursday on The Laura Ingraham Show, Senator Lindsey Graham told host Laura Ingraham that he plans to send a letter to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein today requesting that an independent counsel be commissioned to investigate the Department of Justice and the FBI.

    Graham’s request comes in response to the latest text messages to surface between former FBI officials Peter Stzrok and Lisa Page, which revealed the pair’s strategy of leaking anti-Trump stories to the media in the months leading up to the Trump-Russia probe.

    “These new text messages from Sztrok and Page about leaking information about the FISA warrant process to the media is just one of a series of events that scream for a Special Counsel,” Graham told Ingraham.

    “What I can’t get over is how much more has to be uncovered at the Department of Justice regarding a political agenda. The Department of Justice and the FBI were political operatives when it came to Trump, they weren’t investigators.”

    Graham also said he wished Attorney General Jeff Sessions would talk more about the reported abuses that have taken place in DOJ and FBI, but fingered Rosenstein as the party responsible for investigating those agencies.

    “I don’t know why Rosenstein, who’s in charge of this process, doesn’t see what I see: an out of control Department Justice and FBI,” Graham said.

    The Senator noted that he has spoken to Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein several times, and expressed concern over the origin of the Russia investigation and communications between Stzrok and Page that demonstrate political bias against the president in US intelligence agencies.

    “What do I tell people in South Carolina? Look at these emails! They were in the tank for Clinton, they hated Trump, this investigation of the Clinton email Scandal was a joke, the FISA application process was based on a warrant obtained from a foreign agent on a dossier paid for by a political party. If the shoe were on the other foot they’d be blowing up the media all over the country.”

    “What’s good for the goose is good for the for the gander. Let’s have a DOJ investigated by somebody outside the Department of Justice.”

  466. mnw says:

    Sheep 467

    RE: CALREP:

    Heretofore, he was one of the few consistently reliable, conservative Republicans over there! I guess he went wobbly, as Margaret Thatcher used to say.

    BOEHNERWASWRIGHT has always been a lefty nuisance, & I never heard of the other one. He must not post much.

  467. jason says:

    I cannot agree more, this is worth repeating:

    “What do I tell people in South Carolina? Look at these emails! They were in the tank for Clinton, they hated Trump, this investigation of the Clinton email Scandal was a joke, the FISA application process was based on a warrant obtained from a foreign agent on a dossier paid for by a political party. If the shoe were on the other foot they’d be blowing up the media all over the country.”

    I am sure Amoral Scumbag is just outraged!

  468. jason says:

    I am sure Messy would support another special counsel, because she would want to get to the bottom of this.

    As Graham says, what is good for the goose is good for the gander right?

  469. Tina says:

    Graham has done a 180 on this.

    He thought trump had done something wrong vis a vis Russia.

  470. Tina says:

    Weissman is likely one of the major leakers in Fuhrer Muleheads witch hunt.

  471. mnw says:

    I don’t think another special counsel/unending investigation would benefit Trump or GOP in the slightest.

  472. Tgca says:

    I agree with my good friend (sometimes) and potential future husband Jason that opposition to Obama was because of his politics and not his skin color. Is there a minute fraction of the electorate out there that oppose him because of his skin color? Of course, just as those same bigots would oppose Condi Rice if she were president.

  473. Tina says:

    A second counsel will not help.

    This was up to Mulehead to resolve this, but he punted since he was the insurance policy, post Comedy.

    Redactstein and to a lesser extent, Wrong Wray, have obstructed

  474. lisab says:

    mueller can NOT charge trump with nothing

    well … he could … he could simply retire to obscurity, he is old enough to do that

    but, assuming he wants a huge book deal and to be invited to all the right parties in washington

    trump has to be impeached on … (rolls dice) … eating russian dressing on may day

    politically speaking he has to charge trump

  475. lisab says:

    look how far out on a limb the dems are

    it is like md with his 8 to 12 point loss prediction

    or rdelbov and polaris with their, “the polls are biased” notions

    the dems BELIEVE that mueller will bring trump crashing down … pyschologically they won’t be able to say, “well we looked and boy were we wrong, trump had nothing to do with the russians”

  476. Tina says:

    Manafort did not flip. He has nothing to flip for.

    If he wanted to flip, he would have done pre first trial.

    He is cooperating, but this is to nail the Pedo Brothers and obumblercare attorney Gregg Craig.

  477. Wes says:

    You forgot MD with his “the past is not prologue!” idiocy from 2014, Lisa.

  478. lisab says:

    as evidence, this is how delusional the dems are
    ————————————-

    US Coast Guard member ‘removed’ after making ‘offensive’ OK sign on live TV

    http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/09/15/us-coast-guard-member-removed-after-making-offensive-ok-sign-on-live-tv.html

    trump WILL be impeached if the dems win the house, which is the overwhelmingly likely scenario

    all dead people will be voting in november

  479. Tina says:

    And Manaforts plea is a net plus for Trump.

    Without a plea, his second trial ends in October, close to the midterms..

    Now we get the indictments of the coup plotters coming up.

  480. Tina says:

    When all else fails, The Jebot loons and messy lsd, should read the plea deal.

    It is clear who Mueller is after now,.

    Company A

    Company B

    Company C.

    And officials with those companies.

  481. lisab says:

    i never understood the

    “past is not prologue”

    prologue: an event or action that leads to another event or situation.

    soooooooooo … in fact, the past IS prologue to our current situation …

  482. Tgca says:

    …and for the record, who are all these white racists? I’ve never met one racist with white skin personally. EVER!!!

    As for skin color, I’m more of a light pinkish beige, and I’ve had many make slurs against me over the years.

    I do not get into fights with folks over words. It’s not worth it! To diffuse the situation I just tell them that’s their prerogative to believe what they wish just as I believe their mother is syphilis infected wh*re…then I walk away.

  483. lisab says:

    messy: there is no leaks, mueller does not leak

    oh, btw, manafort has flipped on trum … i heard it from a leak!!!!!

  484. mnw says:

    Ralph Reed (Christian Coalition) spoke in STL last night. I read an account of it. The CC is doing a helluva lot of GOTV. My impression is that anything that group does gets ignored, & therefore flies under the radar.

    Reed mentioned in passing that Beto winning in TX is a crock (words to that effect).

  485. Wes says:

    MD was trying to say just because the out party tend a to romp in second midterms it wasn’t going to happen in 2014. The problem was that all the signs the GOP would win big in 2014 were in place in 2013. MD just decided to go with the Daily Kos narrative.

  486. Tgca says:

    This guy looks like a real idiot. Funny though.

    …and people wonder why the MSM is mocked and not trusted.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tanyachen/people-are-cracking-up-at-this-weather-reporter-being

  487. Diamond Jim says:

    D iamond Jim

  488. Tgca says:

    …or not

  489. lisab says:

    i understood what md was trying to say,

    i just thought that his words were nonsensical

  490. mnw says:

    RE: The Past Is Prologue:

    “The past is not dead. It isn’t even past.”

    Faulkner

  491. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    How did Hawley(R) do against Sky Queen McCaskill(D) in their MO Senate debate last night?

  492. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is a comment in a Utah newspaper regarding Senator Flake’s statement he would prefer a Democratic president who restores civility over Trump:

    “He would rather be robbed by a polite criminal than helped by an obnoxious benefactor.”

    “He clearly likes form over substance.”

  493. Tina says:

    Flake must have liked the wiretapping, spying on the senate, the targeting of journalists, etc.

    But Byr, Felicia.

    Hope your sons are not killing any more dogs.

  494. Tina says:

    Hopefully, Quittens does not end up like pos flake.

    Quittens is a downgrade, compared to Hatxh.

  495. lisab says:

    keep in mind, this is how messy/cg/robbie act when they are talking to republicans

    when they are with their friends they let their true selves show and are REALLLLLLY rabid dogs

    that is why you cannot find posts where they criticize bill or hillary for immoral behavior … they don’t care about morality

    but they think that is the only way they can get you to abandon trump, because they think republicans are christians who might care about morality

    it is classic alinsky

    “Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”

  496. Tgca says:

    509 LisaB

    Good post. My only critique is that you should spell “immoral behavior” as “amoral behaviour.” See Jason if you have any questions.

  497. mnw says:

    Sheep

    RE: MO candidates’ forum yesterday:

    Where to start? Caveat: I’m sure the McCaskill supporters thought she did FABULOUS! Ditto us Hawleyites, only the other way round.

    Trying to put my own rooting interest aside, which is tremendously difficult, here are some tentative observations:

    1) The stage looked cluttered with the Green & Conservative candidates up there with McC & H.

    2) The first question was Kavanaugh. H answered first, & predictably said that Kav is just the kind of SCOTUS judge Missourians want. McC equivocated & said she hadn’t made up her mind, etc.

    My thought: Point goes to H, & it was good that Kavanaugh was the first question.

    3) McC attacked H for a lawsuit he joined in attacking Obamacare. H answered that he was trying to protect MO from the trainwreck if the law wasn’t modified.

    My thought: H sounded good. Calm & in command of the facts.

    My conclusion: A small + for H overall. The presence of the two “some dude” nonentities sort of diluted the impact of the exchanges between the 2 who might actually win, I thought.

    The event was in Springfield, & Trump will be there soon. The msm slanted their coverage in favor of McC. Shocking, I know.

    P.S. I changed my email address to stop all the messages from Hawley, btw.

  498. Tina says:

    Breaking.

    It is reported that former Obama Counsel, Greg Craig, has hired top criminal defense attorney, Bill Taylor.

  499. Tina says:

    Lawyah up Drats,

    This includes the pedo brothers and Craig.

    All at the door steps of the obumbler and Her Thighness.

  500. Wes says:

    Oh, boy! I think Pink Tutu Kyrsten might want to update her resume and contact a lobbying firm:

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/09/15/politics/kfile-sinema-flyers/index.html?__twitter_impression=true

  501. Wes says:

    I wonder if McSally will dredge up a version of Mitch McConnell’s famous 1984 “Where’ Walter?” ad with herself using bloodhounds to try to find Pink Tutu Kyrsten since Sinema might as well have been on a milk carton for all the appearances she’s made on the campaign trail since the primary.

  502. Wes says:

    Of course Paul thinks McSally is “nasty” for defining Pink Tutu Kyrsten early and making a concerted effort to win the election.

    Mnw, what does Mr. Triage Arizona at RRH think about the fact that McSally clearly wants to win?

  503. mnw says:

    I lost track of him

  504. Wes says:

    Cory Booker is bad to the bone—in his own mind:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK2CUwku-aY

  505. Tina says:

    That tutu ad is fair game, Mcsally is not nasty,

  506. mnw says:

    KS-02

    NYT/Siena poll says it’s tied, with the DEM up by 1 point.

  507. GF says:

    This one was pretty good as well, Wes (if one is a Seinfeld fan, that is);

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEp29cF4Cls

  508. Diamond Jim says:

    Unfortunately, Cory won’t suffer any consequences like George.

  509. mnw says:

    Tina

    That’s pretty awful. Jim Geraghty wrote about it earlier, & Powerline blog re-printed it. Hard to say you had no responsibility when you cofounded the group that created it.

    Sez Enema spokesperson: “Krysti is from a military family herself, & she’s proud of her consistent support for our servicemen, veterans, & their families.”

    The thing about 12-yr-old prostitutes was already discussed, right? She voted to allow “a good faith mistake as to age” to be a legal defense to a criminal charge of sexual abuse of a minor..

  510. Tina says:

    Schweikart predicts that enema will lose by 5, mnw.

    She is scum.

  511. mnw says:

    Well… she’s had a no-good, awful, very bad day or two.

    This keeps up, the chatter will be how the big DEM committees may triage HER.

  512. Wes says:

    I’m sure Mikey’s still coming to grips with the fact that Ward won’t be able to throw the election to Pink Tutu Kyrsten.

  513. Wes says:

    I can’t wait to see Mr. Triage Arizona blather on with some twisted logic about how the NRSC still needs to let McSally go.

  514. mnw says:

    Without Dr. Ward, we’d still be trying (trying how HARD, though?) to get Flake reelected. I admire her.

  515. Wes says:

    I think you overrate Ward. Flake was vulnerable only because of an 18% approval rating. That wasn’t because of Ward but because of him. She just happened to be the person who benefited. Once Flake announced his retirement, Ward became a controversial afterthought.

  516. mnw says:

    Wes 530

    I don’t really disagree, except she was the only one to step up to the plate. She also had the guts to take on McCain in his last GOP primary. Thanks of a grateful nation.

  517. jason says:

    “Dr. Chemtrail Ward” is a third rate deadender with the brains of a gnat.

    The woman is an absolute moron.

    Let’s get real here.

  518. jason says:

    Ward would have lost by at least 10 points, and probably taken down some other AZ Republicans with her, a la Corey Stewart.

  519. jason says:

    Bill Clinton is really pissed at this upstart….

    “Former Detroit Pistons center Jason Maxiell revealed to a national television audience that he has slept with 341 women before and during his marriage to high school sweetheart Brandi Maxiell.”

  520. jason says:

    I think this guy is a liar, the right number is 229 1/2

  521. jason says:

    Sorry, typo, 329 1/2.

  522. jason says:

    Go to Drudge if you need another example of how dishonest the left wing media is.

  523. Blobbie says:

    Trump is a bad person

    According to your own values, you should never support a bad person

    Therefore, you should all stay home this november, so that antifa can take over and impeach Trump.

  524. Wes says:

    Amazingly I’m actually harsher on GOP gubernatorial prospects than RRH. I have WI as Lean D Pickup and RI as Lean D Hold while they consider both Tossups.

    Currently I think Republicans lose NM, IL, WI, and MI and pickup AK for a net loss of three. This will take Dems to being down 20-30 in governorships, up from their current 16-33-1 status.

  525. jason says:

    that is why you cannot find posts where they criticize bill or hillary for immoral behavior … they don’t care about morality”

    Of course not, that is why Wobbie became Amoral Scumbag.

    It has nothing to do with morality. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

  526. Wes says:

    Fun fact:

    Every midterm cycle since 1994 except 2006 has featured an Indy Governor. In 1994, Lowell Weicker (I-CT) retired because of low approval ratings while Wally Hickel (I-AK) switched back to the GOP and subsequently retired. That year, current Senator Angus King (I-ME) beat current Senator Susan Collins (R-ME) for Governor.

    In 1998, King won reelection even as Jesse Ventura (I-MN) joined him as Governor. Both left office, retiring after the 2002 elections, King replaced by a Dem and Ventura by a Republican.

    In 2010, Charlie Crist (Supposedly R-FL) went Indy to make an abortive run for Senate. Republican Rick Scott replaced him. That same year, former Senator Lincoln Chafee (R-RI) became Governor Lincoln Chafee (I-RI).

    In 2014, Chafee switched to the Dems but lost the primary to current Governor Gina Raimondo. In November, Governor Sean Parnell (R-AK) lost to Bill Walker (I-AK) after former Governor Sarah Palin (Herself Ostensibly R-AK) stabbed Parnell in the back and endorsed Walker.

    2020 will be the first midterm cycle since 2006 featuring no sitting Indy Governors barring another Charlie Crist situation.

  527. Wes says:

    Gubernatorial turnovers since 1994:

    1994

    R-+12 gross

    D-+1 (offset by loss of 11)

    I-+1

    For a GOP net of 10 (30-19-1)

    1998

    GOP-+4 (offset by loss of five)

    Dem-+4 (offset by loss of four)

    Indy-+1

    For a GOP loss of one and Indy gain of one, resulting in a 31-17-2 breakdown

    2002

    GOP-+9 (offset by loss of 10)

    Dem-+11 (offset by loss of 8)

    Indy- -2

    For a 26-24 GOP breakdown

    2006

    GOP- -6

    Dem-+6

    For a 28-22 Dem breakdown

    2010

    GOP-+12 (offset by a loss of 6)

    Dem-+5 (offset by loss of 10)

    Indy-+1 (offset by loss of 1)

    For a breakdown of 29R-20D-1I

    2014

    GOP-+4 (offset by loss of 2)

    Dem-+1 (offset by loss of 4)

    Indy-+1

    For a breakdown of 31R-18D-1I

  528. jason says:

    You can make this sh-t up…

    Sexual misconduct allegations surrounding…

    “WaPo reporter Seung Min Kim & Fmr U.S. attorneys Chuck Rosenberg & Joyce Vance on the sexual misconduct allegations surrounding Brett Kavanaugh”

  529. jason says:

    Huh, can’t

  530. Messy says:

    496. There was no leak. There was, however, a filing with the court. BTW. Tina finally got something right. (512) too bad she blew it with the next post.

  531. mnw says:

    jason

    “Brains of a gnat”? Where did you get YOUR M.D., jason?

    She proved her electability by winning a seat in the AZ state senate.

  532. Cash Cow TM says:

    All these investigations….

    I am sure that someone’s goose is cooked.

    Or at least someone’s cook is goosed.

  533. Wes says:

    Then she proved her lack of electability by losing two Senate primaries by double digits and accusing McCain of announcing the end of his cancer treatment so as to damage her candidacy.

    Ward is a self-important ghoul who needs to disappear into obscurity.

  534. Bitterlaw says:

    Mnw- Did you like Christine O’Donnell? She was electable until she was a joke.

  535. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – How are you doing in the storm? Still above water?

  536. Tina says:

    Messy Lsd,

    Greg Craig was the Obumblers White House Council (sic).

    He is a Drat as are the Pedo Bros.

    If Manafort had to flip, he would have flipped well before the first trial, not the second. He has nothing to hit Trump with because Nothing exists.

    You know what is coming…

  537. Tina says:

    Nick Short retweeted
    Jake Benson Jake Benson
    @JakeBenson002
    2h
    Replying to @AndrewCMcCarthy
    The Democrats were 100% in lockstep support of Sally Yates when she mentioned the Trump administration violating the Logan Act. But what do the Republicans do when Kerry gets caught with his hand in the cookie jar… nothing to see… move along.

    Rinos got to Rino. The Cocktail circuit and the Lido Deck await.

  538. lisab says:

    Red Cross Spent Half a Billion Dollars to Build Six Homes in Haiti

  539. SoHope says:

    McSally has a clear shot to the jugular with Sinema’s anti-war past. The pink tutu followed by the 3 anti war flyers the group she founded distributed. They was seriously anti-troop (not just anti-war) in flavor.

    True she stopped be an far left anti-war activist just as soon as we got a commander-in-chief with a D after his name.

  540. Messy says:

    553. Entering into a cooperation agreement is flipping. That’s the definition of it after all, and yes I know who Greg Craig is.

  541. Chicon says:

    Anyone see evidence of a blue wave this morning?

  542. mnw says:

    “entering into a cooperation agreement” is flipping.

    Who knew three iii’s was a lawyer?

    (I’m speaking sarcasticly (sic)).

  543. mnw says:

    Chicon

    Well… if you go to The Wise Men or Drudge, you’ll see lots of chatter about it. Not sure that’s “evidence.”

    The Cards look like a spent force. Time to drop the puck!

  544. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Chicon #558-Any Blue Wave here in Western No. Carolina is from Hurricane Florence!

    #550 mnw- How dare you question the “smartest person” at HHR; maybe in the world! LOL!!!

  545. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    ALL I CAN SAY IS WOW!!! Great reporting by The Hill’s, John Solomon. You can bet that Messy will not comment about the facts in this article and then,Mr. Solomon’s closing conclusion.
    JUST WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/406881-lisa-page-bombshell-fbi-couldnt-prove-trump-russia-collusion-before-mueller

  546. Wes says:

    Thanks, Bitter. I’m actually right in the middle of this mess, but aside from the inconvenience of having to use a generator, I haven’t had many ill effects thus far.

  547. Tgca says:

    Anne Hathaway sucking up to LBGTs while receiving National Equity Award at Human Rights Campaign National dinner. Says really stoopid things (see below). Who writes this chit? Real people don’t talk like this.

    Ok. I’m probably just jealous because I’ll never get a humanitarian award and get to say stoopid gushy things I don’t really mean.

    “That myth is that gayness orbits around straightness, transgender orbits around cisgender, and that all races orbit around whiteness.”

    Hathaway said she felt better after hearing speeches from Biden and HRC’s President Chad Griffin, who spoke earlier in the evening.

    You guys just gave me my heart back,” Hathaway gushed.

    https://nypost.com/2018/09/16/anne-hathaway-denounces-white-privilege-in-award-speech/

  548. Tgca says:

    Now I know why I get dizzy spells at times. Anne Hathaway has been more help than any doctor figuring it all out. I guess it’s because I’m orbiting around all you straight people. SWOOSH!!!

    Chit! I need to slow down. Although Im Cis and white I’m not a NASCAR pro so all this spinning is making me dizzy man.

  549. Wes says:

    What the hell does any of that even mean?

    Anne Hathaway is living proof that vegetarianism destroys cognitive abilities.

  550. Wes says:

    Of course I chuckle when I point out the irony of a rich white woman’s denouncing “White privilege” while accepting an award.

  551. Messy says:

    564-66. It’s nice to agree with everyone fr once.
    Veganism is fascism.

  552. mnw says:

    I never heard of Anne Hathaway. That was Shakespeare’s wife’s maiden name. I suspect the current Anne may have changed her name to that.

    Trade Wars & the market:

    Analyst I like suggests an announcement of a trade agreement with China would cause an immediate 4% pop in the S&P. Otoh, the trade war, he says, has already sliced blue chip earnings by 1%.

    99.7% of everything written about the Lehman collapse is drizzly horse manure. Since this is the 10-year anniversary of the collapse, there’s a lot of manure out there right now.

    Articles I always skip “This expert says markets are headed [up or down]”

  553. Tgca says:

    I’m sure you’ll do fine Wes. Glad to hear you’re well. At least you got a generator! My generator arrived like 4 days after Irma hit in 2017 but I was only without power 2 days so hope your power is on soon. Good thing I spent like $800 on a generator I never used. Glad you got one though. Two days without A/C is just horrible!!!

    Be thankful for your straight, Cis gender, white privilege that you even got a generator.

  554. Wes says:

    Actually, Mnw, Anne Hathaway the actress was born with that name. She does have the look of a classic actress though, so it’s an appropriate moniker.

  555. Wes says:

    Thanks, Tg. I’m hoping the power company replaces the transformer soon.

  556. Tina says:

    Well the mistress confirms what we all knew, and what was first reported by Pete the cheat:

    No Trump/Russian Collusion.

    All a lie by fib and doj, who were weaponized to help Hillary.

  557. mnw says:

    Want evidence of a blue wave?

    A helpful poster at RRH informs us that “HMP polling shows 17 GOP House incumbents trailing and 6 others tied, & that doesn’t include open seats.”

    Since I never head of “HMP polling” before, I googled it. House Majority PAC. We’re doomed!

  558. mnw says:

    572

    Hollywood celebrities are fungible commodities.

  559. Wes says:

    If I ever see or hear the word “collusion” again I’m going to pretend I’m the agent from John Carpenter’s In the Mouth of Madness on the person saying it.

  560. Tgca says:

    HEY!!! I’m a vegetarian and I don’t speak like Anne. But I do eat eggs and all types of cheese so that may be why.

    I had some Talenti Gelato last night. It was Madagascar Vanilla Bean. Yum!

    Oops! There I go with my white privilege again eating vanilla ice cream. I should have had blueberry or raspberry to celebrate my gayness. Damn!

  561. mnw says:

    574 P.S.

    The RRH post about “HMP polling” was provided by poster GRADYDEM, btw.

  562. Wes says:

    In 2014, GradyDem was one of the RRHers spouting the same Daily Kos talking points MD was posting here about how Dems would be fine back then.

  563. Tina says:

    In Jebot World

    There is nothing faring for Francois .kerry meeting with the mullahs.

    Yet, there is something wrong with the incoming NSA head, General Flynn, taking a call from his then Russian counterpart.

    Remember Sjw Yates (loser of a 9-0 Sc Decision) stated Flynn violated the Logan Act.

  564. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #578
    Maybe you can get StrawDog to ask GradyDem to list the 23 seats the HMP identifies together with the polling data.

  565. Wes says:

    This is something Morrisey definitely needed. Can Morrisey build momentum off this, Walt?

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/congress/nra-endorses-patrick-morrisey-over-joe-manchin-in-west-virginia

  566. Tina says:

    wCMcCarthy
    2h
    Replying to @BradMossEsq @jsolomonReports
    Each application, after describing Russia’s hacking scheme, summarizes: ‘the FBI believes that the Russian Government’s efforts are being coordinated with Page and perhaps other individuals associated with [Trump’s] campaign.’ See eg Oct 2016 App, pp 8-9.
    View conversation ·

  567. Tina says:

    Follow by SMS
    Donald J. Trump Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    3m
    The illegal Mueller Witch Hunt continues in search of a crime. There was never Collusion with Russia, except by the Clinton campaign, so the 17 Angry Democrats are looking at anything they can find. Very unfair and BAD for the country. ALSO, not allowed under the LAW!

    Release the Fisa.

    Rs need to pull funding for Fuhrer Mulehead.

  568. jason says:

    Looks like the “flip” that wasn’t a flip isn’t a flip after all. And even if it was, it’s not likely Manafort brings anything to the “collusion” BS.

    Messy hardest hit.

    “It’s another dramatic development in Trumpworld: Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chairman, is now cooperating with special counsel Robert Mueller in exchange for a reduced sentence for crimes involving bank fraud, money laundering and tampering with witnesses.

    This might seem like another ominous turn for Trump, who must now contend with at least three former loyalists cooperating with federal prosecutors. But Manafort came and went quickly in Trump’s orbit, and he probably knows little to nothing about how Trump’s web of businesses otill, Manafort attended the now-notorious meeting at Trump Tower in June of 2016, when a Russian lawyer offered damaging information on Trump’s Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton. If there’s more to the story involving Trump contacts with Russian operatives, Manafort may know. But there may not be more to the story. The meeting may have been just a clumsy (and possibly illegal) attempt to gain an edge against a formidable opponent by campaign bumblers. It’s Mueller’s job to get to the bottom of it.

    Some analysts think the bigger risk to Trump involves business activities before he became a presidential candidate. Trump has sold property to Russian oligarchs and borrowed money from Russian lenders. He’s done business with Aras Agalarov, a Moscow construction tycoon close to Putin. In 2008, Trump’s son, Donald Jr., said the Trump Organization sees “a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

    The Trump Organization is a private company required to publicly disclose little about its financing, lending arrangements or creditors. And Trump has never released his tax returns. Much is unknown about the Trump’s money.

    Manafort was not a Trump confidante or insider prior to 2016, or after, for that matter. He came to the Trump campaign through the recommendation of Trump’s longtime friend Tom Barrack. And he never worked for the Trump Organization, as Cohen and Weisselberg have. If the Trump campaign conspired with Russia in 2016, then Manafort probably knows about it. But if Mueller is interested in events that occurred before 2016, Manafort won’t know.”

  569. Tina says:

    It simply makes little sense for Manafort to “flip” now, second trial, as opposed to before the first trial.
    He had nothing to flip involving trump.

    He has crooked business dealings with the pedo brothers and obamas White House “council”*

    *council is misspelled for the Jebots, messy lad.

  570. jason says:

    Entering into a cooperation agreement is flipping.”

    Huh, no, it isn’t. Manafort’s “cooperation” could have little or nothing to do with Trump. Or he might be agreeing to provide information that exonerates Trump for all we know.

    But if you would only try that remedial program, you wouldn’t be making sh-t up.

  571. Redmen4ever says:

    Polling & Research Poll: Heinrich far ahead in NM. Boomlet for Johnson, if there ever was one, has gone up in smoke.

  572. jason says:

    Ouch…

    “There was no fault to the FBI checking whether Trump was compromised by Russia; that is a classic counterintelligence responsibility.

    The real fault lies in those leaders who allowed a secret investigation to mushroom into a media maelstrom driven by official leaks that created a story that far exceeded the evidence, and then used that false narrative to set a special prosecutor flying downhill ahead of his skis.

    No matter where Mueller ends his probe, it is now clear the actions that preceded his appointment turned justice on its head, imposing the presumption of guilt upon a probe whose own originators had reason to doubt the strength of their evidence.”

  573. jason says:

    Heinrich far ahead in NM”

    I could (and did) predict that.

    Johnson is a airheaded nutcase.

  574. jason says:

    I am sure Amoral Scumbag is just outraged by this.

    Oh wait, it’s bad for Trump, carry on…

    “So, by the words of Comey, Strzok and Page, we now know that the Trump Justice Department — through Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein — unleashed the Mueller special prosecutor probe before the FBI could validate a connection between Trump and Russia.

    Which raises the question: If there was no concrete evidence of collusion, why did we need a special prosecutor?

    Page’s comments also mean FBI and Justice officials likely leaked a barrage of media stories just before and after Mueller’s appointment that made the evidence of collusion look far stronger than the frontline investigators knew it to be. Text messages show contacts between key FBI and DOJ players and the Washington Post, the Associated Press and the New York Times during the ramp-up to Mueller’s probe.

    And that means the news media — perhaps longing to find a new Watergate, to revive sagging fortunes — were far too willing to be manipulated by players in a case that began as a political opposition research project funded by Trump’s Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, and led by a former British intelligence agent, Christopher Steele, who despised Trump.”

  575. Redmen4ever says:

    CBS Battleground Tracker: MO dead heat, MT Tester up 2

  576. jason says:

    mnw says:
    September 15, 2018 at 8:38 pm

    jason

    “Brains of a gnat”? Where did you get YOUR M.D., jason?

    Oh my goodness, she “proved her electability” to federal office by winning a state senate seat in a GOP stronghold?

    WOW.

    I would respond further to this idiocy, but wes took care of it.

    Wes says:
    September 15, 2018 at 9:07 pm

    Then she proved her lack of electability by losing two Senate primaries by double digits and accusing McCain of announcing the end of his cancer treatment so as to damage her candidacy.

    ard is a self-important ghoul who needs to disappear into obscurity.”

  577. jason says:

    Btw mnw, you really don’t need an MD to determine Chemtrail Ward is a dingbat. Even Messy probably could figure it out and she didn’t even complete 5th grade.

  578. jason says:

    CBS Battleground Tracker: MO dead heat, MT Tester up 2″

    Rs will win any contests where CBS thinks it’s that close.

    You read it here first.

  579. jason says:

    Michael Moore says Trump wrote the NYT Op-ed.

    The last time he released a film trying to derail a President it didn’t work out too well for him, GWB won re-election anyway.

  580. Wes says:

    I just had to shut down a birther on YouTube of all places. He claimed at Obama’s request, the Governor of Hawaii sealed the records of the former President’s birth certificate. I found and posted the birth certificate after a quick Google search lasting about 15 seconds.

  581. Wes says:

    Tester has been losing ground ever since the Pearl Jam incident. I wonder if there’s correlation.

  582. Wes says:

    I doubt McCaskill survives.

  583. Wes says:

    I wish Renacci could gain traction against Brown.

  584. mnw says:

    A “dead heat” is NOT where an incumbent Senator wants to be a month & a half out. That’s why I think McCaskill & Heller will both lose.

    Tester may be heading there too. Wes attributes the tightening MT race to the Pearl Jam deal. I think it was the Trump’s recent MT rally, but it could be both. Tester can’t be looking forward to the Kavanaugh vote much.

    jason

    RE: Dr. Ward & Kris Kobach:

    You can have the last word ’bout this if u want:

    Obviously, your opinion that Dr. Ward has the “brains of a gnat” is meaningless, literally. She is a board certified physician in Obstetrics & Pediatrics, & she has had a successful private medical practice for a long time. (How’d YOU do on the MedCats, jason? I notice you avoid this when you call Ward stupid. I couldn’t get into med school in a million years. I suspect lisab & Tg could’ve. Could YOU?)

    Similarly, your vehement opposition to KS AG Kobach has nothing to do with his IQ, either.

    What upsets you is not doubts about the intelligence of these 2 GOP candidates. What gets you all scream-y angry is the strong POLITICAL convictions of these 2 SoCons on immigration, border security, & pro-life issues.

    Btw, have you considered that in respect to these issues, Hawley is indistinguishable? Another deadender with “the brain of a gnat,” obviously?

    Now I’m done with this.

  585. Redmen4ever says:

    I now have the Republicans at 50 Senators with AZ, FL, MO and NV in the toss-up category, in my completely mechanistic, poll-based rating scheme. I still have IN in the leans D category because of a silly Trafalgar poll. I fell confident that state will move to the toss-up category upon the next poll in that state. As of right now, I’m thinking the next Senate has 53 to 55 Republicans.

    Regarding OH: The Democrat has a huge war chest and is spending freely on the air war. The Republican is short funds, and has yet to respond. This is moving the needle something like 10 points in the Democrat direction. I don’t know if the Republican can, at this time, make the race competitive. Part of his problem is that the national Republicans have higher priorities elsewhere. Even Wisconsin and Minnesota-special may warrant funding prior to Ohio.

  586. mnw says:

    Redmen

    The new TN poll looks legit to me. I’m not familiar with Triton Polling, & I’m usually skeptical of newspaper (& college) polls, but this one is LVs & has a large sample size (1038).

    In my earlier post, I forgot to include Nelson as another incumbent I believe will lose.

    Btw, you went to St. John’s, I’m guessing? A storied hoops history there.

  587. Tgca says:

    Yum! I just had a Beyond Meat burger and a side bowl of black olives. Then finalized my Sunday brunch feast with a few yogurt covered almonds and some vanilla bean gelato.

    Life is good!

    https://beyondmeat.com/store-locator

  588. Redmen4ever says:

    2 bits, 4 bits, 6 bits, a dollar
    All for St. John’s stand up and hollar!

  589. Phil says:

    One thing you can take to the bank. With the last ten days before the Kavanaugh confirmation vote the Democrats and their MSm stooges will leak more BS “details” of Judge Kavanaugh’s “inappropriate sexual behavior”. It will be timed and well coordinated.

    Anyone care to bet against it? Anyone? I didn’t think so.

    Hide and watch.

  590. Wes says:

    What upsets you is not doubts about the intelligence of these 2 GOP candidates. What gets you all scream-y angry is the strong POLITICAL convictions of these 2 SoCons on immigration, border security, & pro-life issues.

    Jason can answer for himself, Mnw, but I’ve never seen him criticize Kobach and Ward for their conservative stances on issues but only for his perception of them as candidates Dems have at least a good shot of beating in contrast to their primary opponents.

  591. jason says:

    What upsets you is not doubts about the intelligence of these 2 GOP candidates. What gets you all scream-y angry is the strong POLITICAL convictions of these 2 SoCons on immigration, border security, & pro-life issues.

    Btw, have you considered that in respect to these issues, Hawley is indistinguishable? Another deadender with “the brain of a gnat,” obviously?”

    I guess you just destroyed your own argument, by proving it has nothing with their “positions”. If it were, I wouldn’t be sending money to Hawley.

    It has to do with the fact they are weak candidates that hurt the R party on a national stage, and risk losing seats in red states that should never be in doubt.

    I appreciate you making my point.

    And GFY.

  592. jason says:

    but I’ve never seen him criticize Kobach and Ward for their conservative stances on issues but only for his perception of them as candidates Dems have at least a good shot of beating in contrast to their primary opponents.”

    Exactly wes, thanks.

    If I was to oppose every candidate that was pro-life, I wouldn’t be supporting too many R candidates.

  593. jason says:

    um! I just had a Beyond Meat burger”

    Sometimes I really feel sorry for vegetarians.

    Poor bastards buy horrible tasting crap like Beyond Meat “burgers”, because deep down they still want meat and burgers, or why would they buy similar items.

    So why not just go ahead and enjoy the real thing, a nice juicy rare grass fed beef burger like I will be cooking on the grill soon.

    Nobody admires that sort of self-deprivation, except other self deprived morons.

  594. Wes says:

    “Beyond Meat Burger” sounds like the title of a gay porn flick. For that reason alone I could not eat it even aside from its abominable status as a vegetarian “burger.”

  595. jason says:

    Meat substitutes are beyond gross. I really don’t want to think about when I bite into the real burger.

  596. jason says:

    Btw, looks like a shot of Famous Grouse every night gets you to 112.

    I wonder what 4 shots of Grey Goose a night does…

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6173213/Britains-new-oldest-person-reveals-secret-long-life-dram-whisky-day.html

  597. mnw says:

    Wes 608

    That would hardly explain jason’s stated opposition to Kobach in the GE, would it, Wes?

    I guess you missed his posts about that?

  598. Wes says:

    Who wants to live to 112?

  599. Tgca says:

    Funny Jadon thinks that anyone eating a veggie burger deep down really wants the real thing. That’s what many gays think about Cis guys downing sausage. Just food for thought.

  600. Tgca says:

    Live to 112? No fooking way!!! I’m ok with checking out by 65 or 70. Old age is not becoming on me.

  601. Tgca says:

    I’m seriously thinking taking up smoking, drinking, and a pizza and ice cream diet when I get to the 60s. If you live that long, you should be able to let it all hang out me thinks.

  602. Wes says:

    Mnw threw out my speculation about Pearl Jam’s hurting Tester on RRH.

  603. Redmen4ever says:

    Minn Star/Mason-Dixon poll shows Wirz up 9 (numbers in Senate races presumably forthcoming)

    http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-poll-tim-walz-leads-jeff-johnson-in-governor-s-race/493386031/

  604. Tgca says:

    OMG! Drudge is so racist. They’re showing folks looting in Wilmington, NC. The city extended curfew in the looted neighborhood from 5PM to 6AM while the rest of the city is 10PM to 6AM.

    Has anyone considered that folks left money for the things they took or plan to go back and pay for them later? That’s what I would do if I needed laundry detergent and supplies were low and there was no cashier available after I climbed through the gated door and smashed the glass door to enter.

    Geez! Have some faith people.

  605. Wes says:

    The Hill has a circle jerk of cherry picked data claiming not only is Cruz-O’Rourke the same as Allen-Webb, but Texas is turning Dem as the election results will attest:

    http://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/406554-cruz-orourke-increasingly-looks-like-allen-webb

    Where do I begin?

  606. Tgca says:

    This is BullChit! Its mean and humiliating the things we guys go through. I’m still in therapy for being maimed.

    https://fox13now.com/2018/09/13/2000-pound-bull-takes-to-downtown-tooele-to-avoid-circumcision/

  607. Cash Cow TM says:

    I thought Anne Hathaway was the secretary for Mr. Drysdale (the banker) in the Beverly Hillbillies.

  608. Bitterlaw says:

    Who wants to live to be 112?

    I would ask Walt but he probably does not remember that far back.

  609. Greymarch says:

    Are we honestly at the point where we are judging our politicians by what they allegedly did as children!?!? This accusation against Kavanaugh is insane. IT NEVER HAPPENED. A democratic activist conveniently makes a claim no other person can verify at the time it happened when Kavanaugh was 17 years old, and it was presented by a democratic senator who isnt seeking re-election. Gee, that doesnt smell fishy. Unreal. All this does is further enrage the GOP base, thus hardening the position of GOP senators to vote for Kavanaugh. The age of Trump…say anything you want about anyone at any time because the ends ALWAYS justify the means.

  610. mnw says:

    GM 628

    Time to see if the GOP Senators go wobbly.

    Reminds me somewhat of Judge Moore, & that achieved the desired result.

  611. Hugh says:

    Anybody who doesn’t think the Cavanaugh is going to be confirmed has lost their mind. The Democrats really over play their hand on this one. I have found multiple articles by various news organizations that keep citing the 14% generic ballot difference in one poll. If the Robo call polls Are correct there’s going to be a lot of angry Democrats.

  612. Tina says:

    Wobbly?

    Senator planned parenthood

    Or the Maine Chicklet.

    Z

  613. jason says:

    Wes 608

    That would hardly explain jason’s stated opposition to Kobach in the GE, would it, Wes?”

    I see mnw is still digging a bigger hole.

    I think Kobach is a an ass on immigration, and his silly statement with no evidence that 3 million illegals voted in 2016 is proof.

    That being said, my opposition to him is that his stupid statements are used by the Dems and the MSM to bash Rs everywhere, and that he is no shoo-in to win in a deep red state like KS.

    Now GFY again.

  614. jason says:

    Funny Jadon thinks that anyone eating a veggie burger deep down really wants the real thing. That’s what many gays think about Cis guys downing sausage. Just food for thought.”

    Jadon? I think that would be my screen name in a Star Wars movie.

    And in my world, sausage IS the real thing.

  615. Robbie says:

    These allegations against Kavanaugh are a smear effort of the worst kind, but Democrats are pulling out all of the stops.

    This woman claims the incident happened in 1982 when she was 15 but didn’t tell anyone until 2012? And then when she did, the notes from her psychologist show a discrepancy about how many were involved?

    At least with Roy Moore and some of the other high profile #metoo stories, the accusers told their stories to friends when the actual events happened. Here, nothing of the sort happened. The woman said she told no one at the time and waited at least 30 years to speak specifically about them.

    How is Kavanaugh supposed to deal with a claim like this when he and the other man involved both vehemently deny it?

    This is why so many people hate politics.

  616. jason says:

    Greymarch manages to attack Trump after actually making the case of how corrupt and hypocritical the Dems are on their Hail Mary.

    In the end TDS prevails. It’s Trump’s fault the Dems are corrupt and hypocritical.

  617. jason says:

    t least with Roy Moore and some of the other high profile #metoo stories, the accusers told their stories to friends when the actual events happened.”

    That shouldn’t be enough to derail a career either. So you get a couple politically motivated “friends” to say “yeah, she told me 1976 that so and so looked up her skirt”.

    Zzzzzzz…..

  618. Tina says:

    The age of trump…

    Blah, blah, blah…

    They have been tryiing to Bork Republican Sc picks well since Reagan,

    Has nothing to do with trump.

    The Drats use the last minute sexual stuff (Kavanaugh had 5 or 6 fib background checks, which revealed nothing) because usually it will be enough to scare Wobbly Rs.

  619. jason says:

    I think this may come as news to Tgca, but straight guys don’t think of dicks when they eat sausage.

  620. Bitterlaw says:

    I hope that Trump leaves office on January 20, 2025 after putting 4 Justices on SCOTUS. I hope I never hear the name Trump again after January 20, 2025. Both can be true.

  621. GPO says:

    well red state dems have their reason to vote against the nomination now

  622. GPO says:

    Bitterlaw says:

    September 16, 2018 at 3:19 pm

    I hope that Trump leaves office on January 20, 2025 after putting 4 Justices on SCOTUS. I hope I never hear the name Trump again after January 20, 2025. Both can be true

    5! and a ton of circuit court judges as well

  623. Tina says:

    Looks like the accuser of Kavanaugh has come out.

    She is a leftist activist.

  624. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #640
    Exactly right!
    I do worry a bit about the scheduled Thursday Committee vote on Kavanaugh since Jeff Flake(R-AZ) is on the Committee and the Committee balance is 11(R)- 10(D).

  625. jason says:

    The only purported witness said it never happened.

  626. Chicon says:

    643 – no worries, the matter can proceed to a full vote without committee approval. There’s gonna be a vote.

  627. Wes says:

    She never mentioned the alleged incident till 29 years later and can’t remember any details of the location, nor did she specifically name Kavanaugh till the confirmation hearings. Kavanaugh has 65 women backing him. I’m calling BS. I apply the same standard to this I applied to Juanita Broderick’s allegations against Bill Clinton.

    It hasn’t enough credibility to be believable.

  628. Wes says:

    Even the RRH “Republicans” are questioning the allegations against Kavanaugh.

  629. Bitterlaw says:

    At least the Eagles don’t have the pressure of going undefeated. Bad 27-21 loss to Tampa Bay. Sucks.

  630. Tina says:

    The wp “con.” red Rubin, wants the Kavanaugh vote to be postponed.

    In the meantime, the socialist on the Lido Deck has mentioned an army of money to challenge trump in 2020. The Jebots love the socialist.

  631. Phil says:

    Well, well , did I call it or did I call it? The accuser now has provided the little details right on cue. Roy Moore all over again but in the case of Kavanaugh absolutely no pattern of behavior. none. Agree 100% with Robbie. This is EXACTLY why people hate politics.

    You could see this coming from a million miles away.

  632. Phil says:

    Expect more “details” to be released in the next coming days. Again, right on cue and according to script.

  633. Phil says:

    Will of course give red state Democrats the excuse to vote no. Why, “we are just standing up for the rights of women”

    Now, who could be opposed to that.

  634. Phil says:

    Anita Hill 2. The movie sequel. Enjoy.

  635. Tgca says:

    638 Yo Jadon

    I did not say I thought straight guys did that. Don’t misrepresent my point you swine eater.

    I do NOT associate food with sexual innuendo like some folks. However, I do recall a white trash married neighbor demonstrating to my mom and step dad how he prefers his BJs using our plastic banana in our tacky fake fruit basket on the kitchen table. I was like 7 and did not totally understand that until years later but I recall my folks laughing over it and making some comments about his wishful thinking or something to that effect.

  636. Bitterlaw says:

    How significant is the Kavanaugh story? CNN and MSNBC are reporting on….flooding from Florence.

  637. Bitterlaw says:

    That is a very disturbing story, Tgca. I am sorry you had to frow up with a fake fruit basket. I never u derstand the point of those.

  638. Tgca says:

    I’m sorry but I do not believe in protecting the identity of folks who accuse others since the accused have the most to lose. History is littered with lies and accusations that have no merit. Think Duke as a recent example.

    Any woman that accuses a man of sexual predatory behavior should stand up and be cross-examined. I don’t trust that a woman in this day and age is anymore likely to tell the truth about sex than a man. I’ve known females who have lied and made accusations so my experience tells me any accuser that wants to hide in the shadows should be considered suspect in their accusations.

    If that offends women, TOUGH! How many men have gone to jail and had their lives ruined by such accusations, specifically men of color.

  639. Phil says:

    ….and since I was was smack dab right correct about both the strategy of Democrats and the timing of that strategy on Kavanaugh let me be the first to predict the first GOP Senator to crack on the judiciary committee will be our old reliable friend Jeff Flake who will call for a delay.

    Anyone want to bet against me on that one? Anyone?

    Of course, there will be a few more “details” that will need to be leaked over the next couple of days to make that happen, but they’re coming. Stories are already written at The NYT and Washington Post.

    Anyone want to doubt me? I didn’t think so.

  640. Phil says:

    657

    Nail on head.

  641. Tgca says:

    656 Bitter

    I know. It’s awful! It’s embarrassing to explain to folks why when I see fake fruit my 1st thought is to stick the banana in my mouth and go to town on it. I thought everyone did that…but apparently not.

  642. Wes says:

    Who wants to bet Dick Wolf is overseeing a Law and Order: SVU script right now about a woman who accuses someone seeking a judicial confirmation of rape years ago and gets her previously unsullied name dragged through the mud as the sleazy rapist gets his confirmation because of the votes of useful idiot conservative women and sexist old white men?

  643. Bitterlaw says:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6173193/Jack-Rippers-victims-NOT-prostitutes-says-historian.html

    I wonder if Walt is concerned that they are still looking into the Jack the Ripper murders. There are rumors that Walt was in England in 1888.

  644. Bitterlaw says:

    Probably, Wes. I only just started watching SVU reruns. My daughter loves it. The political themed shows are lame but it is a solid show when it sticks to crimes. I really like it when Ice-T says “I don’t think so,” when the suspect is lying.

  645. Wes says:

    I used to be a big Law and Order fan till Dick Wolf decided to go overtly and repeatedly political in Fall 2004. Before that, the left-wing politics of the franchise was an afterthought rarely getting much play. After that, Wolf decided to cram as much politics into his creation as possible despite the presence of moderate-to-conservative actors in the shows.

  646. mnw says:

    Fwiw, the CBS “Battleground Tracker”* poll for MO SEN, showing a tie, was taken before the so-called debate Friday between Hawley, McC & 2 nonentities.(the debate was Friday afternoon, the last day of the 4-day poll).

    I admit that I did not expect this race to be this close at this point.

    Before I retired, I would always ask myself, “Well, warts & all, would you rather have your OWN problems, or your adversary’s problems?” The answer was always, “my own problems,”– (except a couple times when I ate NG verdicts that a child of seven could see coming from 30000 feet).

    Right now, I’d much rather have Hawley’s problems than McC’s.

    *”Battleground tracker polls”? Oh, just shoot me. Barf.

  647. Wes says:

    McCaskill’s problem is that she’s an unapologetic liberal in an increasingly conservative state. She eked out a narrow win in 2006 on a Dem wave and Rush Limbaugh’s decision to make fun of Michael J. Fox’s Parkinson’s right before the election. She then beat Akin because—well, everyone knows why.

    Hawley has the state’s partisan Lean in his favor as well as a lack of disqualifying gaffes. He should be the next Senator, beating her by 3-5%.

  648. lisab says:

    ‘Justices should not be an extension of Republican Party’ marco rubio on why he will not support kavanaugh

  649. janz says:

    #653 Phil, there’s no doubt this is yet another Anita Hill strategy being deployed, to derail Kavanaugh’s confirmation.

    Christine Blasey Ford is the newest, no-longer-anonymous “metoo” ploy of the dems, supposedly a research psychologist employed by a CA Palo Alto University. How many seconds will it now take now for Gloria Allred to appear — perhaps with a yearbook in hand — to put her perverse mark on this event? Count down begins…….

  650. dblaikie says:

    The best argument for Kavanaugh is his life for the last 30 years. Not one accusation. Dedicated family man. In his years on the bench he had all sorts of female law clerks working for him — not one charge or even hint about something untoward. Indeed the best character witness is not the 65 woman who came forward but the Judge himself. Dianne Finstein and all the other Dems can pound sand.

  651. Bitterlaw says:

    I have only seen a few Law and Order episodes (I prefer SVU). DA whomever (Sam Waterston) made the same closing argument in every episode, “If you believe in the Constitution, you must find the defendant guilty of [crime].” It rarely mentioned evidence.

  652. mnw says:

    The Kavanaugh accusation? If the DEMs go all in on it, this could be the magic talisman to end the ‘enthusiasm gap.’

  653. Phil says:

    Well, the guys at Powerline are now already talking about withdrawing the Kvenaugh nomination and nominating someone else.

    Well played Democrats. Well played.

    In the war of ideology it is not ever a fair fight. Since one side has no rules they ALWAYS win. That winning side is always the left.

  654. mnw says:

    dbl

    Absolutely. The best predictor of future conduct is past conduct.

  655. dblaikie says:

    Wes I agree. There is one fact that all the poll watchers are missing. Simply an incumbent who is below 50% is in deep trouble. Usually there approval number is there ceiling and if they can’t get that to 50% on election day they are toast.

  656. Wes says:

    For the record, I think the Trumpistas will take none too kindly to the Dem smear of Kavanaugh and will take their anger out on Dems voting against him in November.

    Nothing about this allegation passes the smell tests. All of it is significantly less serious than what respected Dems have done in the past.

    For example, I wonder how Sherrod Brown will react given the much more concrete allegations made against him by his ex-wife, who despite a number of accusations has become a Brown ally since the GOP started trying to derail him in the 1990s.

  657. lisab says:

    Last week, CNN dropped a full 41 percent in the daytime TV ratings and fell 36 percent in primetime compared to the same week last year.

    AdWeek reports, “CNN ranked No. 6 across basic cable in total prime time viewers, and No. 5 in total day this past week. Despite the top 10 finishes, the network was -36 percent in prime time viewers, and -41 percent in total day viewers vs. the same week last year.”

  658. janz says:

    “The only purported witness said it never happened.”

    However, that witness is a “man.” And in the age of overly outraged women siding with the “MeToo” movement, a male bearing witness, unfortunately, doesn’t carry much weight these days.

    Hopefully, though, what one poster said above holds true — that all these incredibly devious tactics by the dems will only anger R’s and indies, energizing them more to come out in the midterms and vote for GOP candidates.

  659. Tom says:

    The Dems know they will not be able to stop Kavenaugh’s appointment. This is about delegitimizing it. They know they will no longer be able to implement their agenda by judicial fiat with Kavenaugh on the SC, so just like with Trump, they hope to tarnish the appointment for a future impeachment proceeding.

  660. Wes says:

    Don’t give up, Phil. Anita Hill was unable to defeat Clarence Thomas with similar allegations, and even some Dems voted for him. (See Alan Dixon [D-IL].) I don’t think the Left can beat him with a last-minute, politically timed smear.

  661. mnw says:

    Phil 672

    I think you overstated the Powerline conclusion about Kavanaugh a little. It was a bit more ‘nuanced,’ as they say, imo.

  662. Wes says:

    Ironically Dems have one of the few successfully impeached and removed men in US history currently serving in their House caucus:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcee_Hastings

  663. lisab says:

    CNN: Over the next 100 years nearly ALL Puerto Ricans who witnessed Hurricane Maria will die either directly or indirectly from this administration’s lack of response.

  664. janz says:

    Phil,

    I read the Powerline article and duly noted the author was Paul Mirengoff, who is one of the most negative contributors on that blog — often criticized by other posters for his less-that-favorable take on issues and events.  Nonetheless, I didn’t see his “take” as necessarily being one of throwing Kanvanauh overboard. 

    According to Mirengoff he explained what “not to do” in this way 

    “What not to do? Delay the proceedings. Democrats will demand that the hearings be reopened so they can question Kavanaugh about Ford’s claim. But Democrats had a chance to question him about the claims and failed to do so. In any event, Kavanaugh has issued a blanket denial. We know his side and we know the woman’s side.”

    Essentially, I agree with mnw’s comment in #680.

  665. janz says:

    What dems might be tempted to do, however, once Kanvanaugh’s appointment is confirmed, is to then start impeachment hearings, just to muck up Congress’s time and energy.

  666. Wes says:

    RRH’s take on seeing sitting Dem Senators run even with lesser-known Republican challengers in states where those Dems previously won, usually by wide margins:

    GOPTARHEEL
    September 16, 2018 at 1:58 pm | In reply to cer
    Running neck and neck in R+11/R+12 States actually is a sign of a great Democratic year.
    R/NC. Waiting for a non-ossified establishment or sane populists. Not optimistic.

    ::sigh::

  667. Wes says:

    That would set an absolutely horrible precedent, Jane. I’m not sure Dems would try it given the potential ramifications against their own nominees when Republicans face a Dem President .

    This isn’t the period of the permanent Dem congressional majorities from the 1950s to the 1990s.

  668. Wes says:

    In 2010 and 2014, sitting Republican Senators running in states Obama had carried never faced competitive elections after winning their primaries. Now sitting Dem Senators in states Trump carried are facing tough reelection’s against candidates with much lower name ID. Context is an alien thing on RRH.

  669. Phil says:

    Janz

    Agree about Mirengoff and his track record. Of the three authors over there he is always the most pessimistic and most bending on issues. Absolutely right. Not as infuriating as Allah over at Hot Air, however. That guy is infuriating.

    I believe if Republicans buckle on this it will be an absolute disgrace. They need to stand firm otherwise this kind of thing will become the new norm. A line needs to be drawn.

  670. Wes says:

    2010:

    Richard Burr (R-NC) beat Elaine Marshall 55-43, trailing in only one Marshall-sponsored poll after the primary.

    2014:

    Susan Collins (R-ME) won 66-34, never trailing in a single poll.

    2018:

    Joe Donnelly (D-IN), Heidi Heitkamp (D-ND), Claire McCaskill (D-ND), Bill Nelson (D-FL), and Jon Tester (D-MT) are running neck and neck with strong GOP challengers, all having previously won. That’s something RRH seems unable to acknowledge.

  671. Wes says:

    Oops. McCaskill (D-MO)

  672. Robbie says:

    I’ve never had any problems with Flake opposing Trump because he’s always done so on philosophical grounds and temperamental grounds. This, though, plays into the view he’s just a pissy, undependable Republican. And before Trump, no one thought that.

    If this nomination is torpedoed, it will demoralize whatever portion of the party was not already having issues before the election.

    Sean Sullivan
    @WaPoSean

    NEWS: Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) tells me in an intv he that doesn’t think the Judiciary Cmte should move ahead with its Thursday vote on Kavanaugh until they hear more from Christine Blasey Ford. “For me, we can’t vote until we hear more.”

  673. dblaikie says:

    Flake is an idiot. There were only 3 people in the room and two said it never happened. What is the FBI going to do, go on a fishing expedition to see if the teenage future judge went to parties and flirted with pretty girls.

    All I can say is that if the Republicans cave on this one it will prove how pathetic they have become. The truth is that anyone Trump nominates, unless they spent their whole life in a caged room is going to be Borked.

  674. janz says:

    #686 Yes, wes, trying to impeach a newly seated jurist on the Supreme Court would set a bad precedent. However, when did such an act ever deter a dem from doing it? Dems think in the immediate, when it comes to overcoming their opponents by destroying their reputations and lives. I can’t tell you how low the dem party has sunk, in my opinion of them.

  675. dblaikie says:

    This whole thing is put pressure on Susan Collins! If she caves they have the vote anyway. Let’s just see what the red state democrats will do.

  676. Tina says:

    And it starts,

    Flakey wants a delay,.

    -compost

  677. janz says:

    “Flake is an idiot.”

    I second that, dblaikie. And, that’s also why his approval rating was so low in AZ that he dared not run again.

  678. Tina says:

    Fraud Flakey wants to be relevant. He is a member of the judiciary.

    So, Kavanaugh my not even get out of committee.

    I was not that set in favor of Kavanaug given the .bushie ties.

    But this is ridiculous.

  679. janz says:

    What I do think this new accusation might do, is give more cover for red state dems to rationalize a “no” vote for Kavanaugh, claiming a moral high ground in doing so.

    BTW, According to the Mirengoff piece, Ford supposedly passed a lie detector test.

  680. mnw says:

    Flake is a bipartisan hero. So was McCain. They are “good respectable” Republicans.

  681. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    You would think that Flake would give Grassley and his fellow Committee Members a heads-up before talking with the press. The man is evil!

    Hold the vote on Thursday and have him vote no. Then send it to the floor.

  682. janz says:

    Ah, Tina, I wasn’t aware of Flake being on the judicial committee! What a shame….

  683. Tina says:

    I really think Trump erred with Kavanaugh, by not going with
    Barret.

    Yup, Flakey upholding the bi partisan tradition.

  684. Messy says:

    If there is a government shut down, then it’s totally Trump’s fault. Here’s proof:
    https://www.newsy.com/stories/congress-agrees-on-spending-bills-delaying-shutdown/

    ..and for a bit of fun, here’s a trailer for a movie explaining why there was three Iraq wars and an impeachment: https://youtu.be/BAOYDcnVx6E

  685. Tina says:

    Yup Janz, flake is a pos.

    I guess a 10-10 tie and they still can advance it.

  686. Tina says:

    Flakey is a pos and has no class.p
    The guy disappeared and went on vacation, causing delays in judicial picks.

    If Mitxhie had something,he would have stripped Flakey of all committee assignments,

    Phuqin Rino.

  687. Wes says:

    Lie detectors are notoriously unreliable. That’s why they’re inadmissible in court.

    Ford can’t tell a consistent story. That alone impeached her credibility.

    Even if it did happen—a big if—she makes outrageous claims that Kavanaugh caused her to be unable to function in a serious relationship for five years. I know women who, despite being victims of far more serious things than Ford claims, haven’t required so much time to adjust into relationships.

    Each person is different, but if this happened and were as serious as she claims, why did she wait decades to come forth? Why also can she not remember where Kavanaugh supposedly assaulted her? That would be a significant detail to remember if she were genuinely the victim of a near rape.

  688. Wes says:

    It’s Thomas 2.0. Character counts. Thankfully like Thomas, Kavanaugh has given no possibly substantiating ammunition.

  689. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    September 16, 2018 at 6:53 pm
    Flake is a bipartisan hero. So was McCain. They are “good respectable” Republicans.

    – McCain never would have done this.

  690. Phil says:

    I called it on Flake two hours ago in post 658. You people are soooo behind the curve. You couldn’t see this coming with Flake? Have you all been living under a rock the last two years in watching this guy operate? Where have you all been?

    It’s like you never before watched the Democrats, MSM, and Flake like Republicans operate.

    Sheesh.

  691. Phil says:

    ‘McCain would never have done this”

    I was never a McCain fan, but I totally agree, Robbie. Absolutely right on here.

  692. janz says:

    One big disqualifying detail about Ford’s accusation is her poor recollection of details. The WaPo story, for instance, indicates the accuser is not even sure what year, whose house, and the names of the people around. Now, if something as “horrifying” as an almost sexual assault occurred, most women would have these details embossed in their brains. Heck, I remember an embarrassing incident in 2nd grade dealing with an insensitive boy, including where I stood in the playground when he made said remarks.

    Also, wes, good response dealing with the accuracy of lie detector tests. The only thing is that the average person sees passing such a test to raise red flags against the accused.

  693. Phil says:

    There is no disqualifying details about Ford’s accusations.

    The MSM said so.

  694. Tina says:

    At least goober statement makes a bit more sense,l
    No question flakey wants to derail this.

    Kavanaughs friend should sue the beotch.

  695. janz says:

    ‘McCain would never have done this”

    Why not? Look at his late night vote upending the repeal of the ACA. He seemed to enjoy being the deciding vote, and thus the hero-of-the-night for the dems

  696. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #709- Phil
    I beat you about Flake’s flaking out. See my post #643 at 4:00 p.m..

    Still I believe that Flake will get into line with the Lindsay Graham statement shortly.

  697. Tina says:

    Janz, correct.

    Thumbs down on it, Dramatic,

    Then went to the drat side and laughed.

  698. Robbie says:

    The propensity for own goals Republican have shown over the last year or so has been amazing.

  699. Phil says:

    Actually, Tina, the Senator from South Carolina makes perfect sense. He is simply saying to this lady “sure, we will listen to what you have to say, but we aren’t going to postpone anything on the basis of some drive by accusation”. Put up or shut up. Come to Washington and say what you want to say, but we’re going to ask you some questions. She doesn’t get to make an accusation and it immediately becomes automatically the truth.

    In other words, Judge Kavanaugh gets due process.

  700. Robbie says:

    janz says:
    September 16, 2018 at 7:19 pm
    “‘McCain would never have done this””
    Why not? Look at his late night vote upending the repeal of the ACA. He seemed to enjoy being the deciding vote, and thus the hero-of-the-night for the dems

    – Questions about policy issues is far different from federal judges. He supported Bork and Thomas.

  701. Tina says:

    Has Flakey run to cnn yet?

    Will he be on the Morning Schmoe program?

    Rino pos.

  702. Tina says:

    Yes Phil, I have no issues with Goobers statement,

    But the Drats will not produce the prof. According to her reviews, she is a nut.

  703. Wes says:

    I’m glad to know Flake has only 3 1/2 months left in the Senate.

  704. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 16, 2018 at 7:25 pm
    Actually, Tina, the Senator from South Carolina makes perfect sense. He is simply saying to this lady “sure, we will listen to what you have to say, but we aren’t going to postpone anything on the basis of some drive by accusation”. Put up or shut up. Come to Washington and say what you want to say, but we’re going to ask you some questions. She doesn’t get to make an accusation and it immediately becomes automatically the truth.

    – Be careful what you wish for. If this woman testifies, she will be turned into a national hero. Her story will be treated as gospel truth and the pressure on Collins and Murkowski will be overwhelming. One or both would buckle.

    Don’t give this woman’s story oxygen.

  705. Phil says:

    They don’t need to produce proof, Tina. Their media puppets will just repeat this woman’s statement to the Washington Post over and over and over and over again.

  706. Wes says:

    The Sixth Amendment didn’t stop applying to Kavanaugh just because Trump nominated him:

    In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.[

  707. Phil says:

    Sorry, Robbie, your MSM buds will do that regardless.

  708. Tina says:

    Phil, right, but Flakey will not vote until,she is produced.

    A 10-10 tie, and they still can move it forward.

    But then you have flakey, the Alaskan Sea porker, and the Maine Chicklet.

  709. Bitterlaw says:

    714 Correction, Janz. That bill did not repeal or replace Obamacare.

  710. Tina says:

    Looks like they scuttle him.

    Trump should have done Barret.

  711. Tina says:

    Flakey went wail for two weeks on a vacation, causing damage to votes.
    Low, flakey is causing greater damage.

    I said it earlier this year that flakey committee assignments should have been stripped.

  712. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 16, 2018 at 7:32 pm
    Sorry, Robbie, your MSM buds will do that regardless.

    – LOL.

  713. Tina says:

    The accuser is a nut.

    She is for open borders.

    Did the pink Pusey hat protests.

  714. janz says:

    Bitter,

    The bill McCain voted down was called the “Skinny repeal” Healthcare bill, which effectively ended any attempts to substantially reform the healthcare system. The vote was 51-49 with McCain casting the decisive vote to bring the bill down.

  715. Bitterlaw says:

    Janz- What the bill was called and what it would have accomplished were not the same thing. McCain was not the only GOP no vote. The bill sucked but I would have voted for it.

  716. BayernFan says:

    I’ve always believed that the biggest threat to Trump’s success are not Dems and media, but Republicans. So many of them don’t know how to really fight and win. Or simply don’t want to.

  717. Tina says:

    I guess if Flakey votes no, it’s a 10-10 tie.

    Kavanaugh cannot get out of committee.

    Flakey serials this,

  718. Tina says:

    Many wanted Hillary, bayer.

    Just look at this board,,or those here who “pretend” to be Ra.

  719. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe Flake is fooling the Dems. If she never testifies, they can make her an issue for 2018 and 2020. Have her testify on Tuesday and let her trip all over her fake story. Vote on Thursdsy and confirm Kavanaugh by the weekend.

  720. janz says:

    Apparently Ford has deleted all of her social media accounts, and her name scrubbed (as of early this AM) from the Palo Alto U. website. She is also conveniently unsure of any specifics when this incident took place. How can Kanvanaugh even sensibly respond to events that are so murky and unsubstantiated?

    It infuriates me that someone can simply lob an accusation that can completely devastate another’s reputation, one that has been positively cultivated over many years.

  721. mnw says:

    We’re in uncharted territory here. We’re also in unintended consequences territory.

  722. Todd McCain says:

    This is ridiculous; Flake is a huge POS.

  723. GF says:

    Perhaps I have missed something here, but where is the “sexual” element in this purported “assault” (if we can even call it that)? It’s not like he augmented this alleged silly prank with snapping her bra with his ruler or something.

    Beyond tedious; were I a senator on the fence, I would announce that I was immediately switching my vote to “Yea” just to punish such antics.

  724. BayernFan says:

    tear her apart in the court of public perceptions. Fight. Win.

  725. mnw says:

    Tina

    As several have posted, a nomination can be sent to the Senate floor for a vote without a recommendation. A 10-10 tie would do this.

  726. BayernFan says:

    745…. mnw…… I think that happened with Bork or Thomas. I could be wrong.

  727. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    Follow
    If GOP refuse to halt Kavanaugh process to hear from Ford, Dems will turn the issue on the GOP immediately. Republicans are worried as being portrayed as indifferent on the “Me too,” especially right before the midterms. Dems will use as a wedge to energize base in midterms
    3:51 PM – 16 Sep 2018

    This is why I wanted Barret.

  728. Tina says:

    Ok mnw, I wrote that at first too, and then read that it cannot move forward.

    But if it does move forward, flakey, Maine Chicklet, and the ak porker will have issues.

  729. BayernFan says:

    Tina…. I think people are smarter than that. A cursory review of FB comments shows that very few regular people believe this woman, given the timing. GOP needs to hold firm and shut this chit down with emphasis.

  730. Wes says:

    GF, she now says Kavanaugh held her down and tried to force himself on her. Previously she made a generic claim about some boys from a local school. Now that Kavanaugh is up for the Court, she knows he was the aggressor—despite never having singled him out before and being conveniently unable to remember the time or place or anyone else present.

  731. bio mom says:

    740

    This is the danger with the Me Too movement. It builds on itself. All men should be worried. Next will be wives against husbands. I am embarrassed to be female these days. Men abused women and so women are now justified to abuse men? Disgraceful!

  732. Wes says:

    My problem with the MeToo movement is it’s ten to take all accusations seriously regardless of merit. There are legitimately victimized women. The charlatans used for political purposes undermine legitimate claims and make a mockery of something serious.

  733. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    8m
    Replying to @RED____WAVE
    Irrelevant. This isn’t about procedure. It’s about four neverTrumpers, Corkscrewed, Flakey, Tom Collins, & MurCowSki who are looking for excuses to bail. Til now, the demands of future employment and good standing with GOP have constrained them.

  734. BayernFan says:

    This will give cover to Donnelly et al to vote No if they want to.

  735. GPO says:

    BayernFan says:

    September 16, 2018 at 8:45 pm

    This will give cover to Donnelly et al to vote No if they want to.

    Exactly- they were screwed- now they have an out

  736. Cash Cow TM says:

    Dick Wolf is a funny name.
    *******************************
    “Flake wants a delay…”
    I thought there already was someone named DeLay…
    ______________

    sate seat eats east teas

  737. Robbie says:

    Right now, I’d have to say it’s more likely than not Kavanaugh’s confirmation is torpedoed and that probably means Democrats may well succeed in preventing this seat from being filled for some time and possibly not before 2020 if they win the Senate.

    I hope I am wrong, but putting any faith in Flake, Collins, or Murkowski is a mistake.

  738. Cash Cow TM says:

    Since being sworn in as governor in Jan., 2017 WV Governor Justice (was long time R, then D in 2016, then switched to R some months after the election)…Justice has due to vacancies, deaths, resignations…

    3 of 5 members of the WV Supreme Court

    5 of 9 members of the State School Board

    3 of the 34 members of the WV State Senate

    7 of the 100 members of the WV House of Delegates

  739. Tina says:

    Quittens has sided with Goobers statement.

  740. Robbie says:

    Now Corker has called for the process to be slowed down.

    Flake and Corker are exacting their pound of flesh and it reinforces the notion Trump would be better advised to stop attacking members of his own party.

    Law of unintended consequences.

  741. Tina says:

    From Powerline:

    Despite the feebleness of Ford’s complaint, it is easy to understand why the Democrats are clinging to it like a life raft. But what could possibly prompt Jeff Flake, who ran for office and was elected as a Republican, to join in their attempt to block one of the most superbly qualified jurists ever appointed to the Court? There is only one answer: his insane hatred for President Trump.

    Flake is a never-Trumper. Like a number of others for whom I once had considerable respect, Flake has elevated his hatred for our president over every principle of politics and public policy. He would rather subvert his own allegedly conservative principles than allow President Trump to exercise his constitutional powers as president. Words can hardly express how contemptible this is.

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2018/09/jeff-flake-traitor.php

    Liked by 1 person

  742. Tina says:

    Major screw up by Mitchie for not stripping flakey.

  743. Tina says:

    Very surprised that these rinos are throwing Kavanauh overboard, despite his Bushie, Rino ties.

  744. Phil says:

    760

    Yeah, Robbie. Corker and Flake are Trump’s fault. I’m shocked you said that. Shocked I say.

    Couldn’t be exacting their pound of flesh at the expense of their conservative beliefs to say nothing of the fact that it is at the expense of a decent man who is having his reputation smeared.

    Yeah, blame it on Trump. How about these two guys do what’s right? Period. No, this reflects on these two men and these two men alone. Has nothing to do with Trump. If they are going to sink this good men based on their hatred for Trump they are small and without character.!!!

  745. Tina says:

    Corker and flakey are upset because both were likely bought off by China and/or the Iranians,

  746. Phil says:

    BTW, isn’t it interesting that this left wing Democratic professor has now scrubbed all her social media.

    I wonder what it said. Any guesses, Robbie?

  747. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    More- Washington Post
    Some more news — “multiple sources tell me Dems are not agreeing to follow up calls with Kavanaugh and Ford. @SenFeinstein tells the Post: “Staff calls aren’t the appropriate way to handle this.”

    This is looking more like a late hit attempt.

  748. Phil says:

    767

    Damn, Sheeple. Ya think?

  749. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    From the Washington Post’s Seung Min Kim

    “Technically … nomination can either be reported out unfavorably or the committee take no action at all, then subsequently discharged to send it to full floor”

    Good news in a perverse way. A way around The Flake and to the Senate floor.

  750. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #768
    Yep,Phil, the Democrats just want the ACCUSATION in the public and to have Kavanaugh twist in the wind forever,

  751. Phil says:

    Having him “twist in the wind” effectively kills the nomination, Sheeple.

  752. janz says:

    Now the accuser’s name, cell and landline numbers, street/mailing/email addresses are all being published on various sites. I bet this woman is going to get a lot of interesting feedback! She may even rival the Red Hen in all the static coming her way.

  753. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Phil
    That is why McConnell should keep to the schedule already laid out for a vote later this month. FULL SPEED AHEAD!

  754. Redmen4ever says:

    Jeff Flake seems to be proposing a preposterous standard for judicial nominees.

    Were the allegation to be accepted at face value, we have a 17 year old male, drunk at a party, groping a similarly under-aged female. If true, we have a man who, as a minor, learned a valuable lesson, and subsequently conducted himself in an exemplary manner.

    But, the allegation cannot be accepted at face value. We know that a certain percentage of persons convince themselves of things that never happened; and – were we to allow unsubstantiated allegations of behaviors in the long distant past – then everybody would be subject to harassment by such people.

    We have to have a higher standard; e.g., multiple accusers establishing a pattern of behavior that continues if not to the present, then well into adulthood.

  755. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Ford’s attorney is a real piece of work Ms. Katz,the lawyer, is a hard nosed Liberal who supported William J. Clinton against sexual allegations. Please read the last paragragh of this article to see how much she detests the GOP.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/timothymeads/2018/09/16/kavanaugh-accusers-lawyer-part-of-resistance-big-democrat-donor-and-has-trashed-paula-jones-n2519525

  756. Hugh says:

    Well. I was wrong. This will be a cluster. Beautifully orchestrated with a complicit press. Senators attack her we lose. Don’t attack her we lose. I think graham has it right make her appear this week. If we lose this trumps next appt should be young fairly short bio and very conservative

  757. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:09 pm
    760

    Yeah, Robbie. Corker and Flake are Trump’s fault. I’m shocked you said that. Shocked I say.

    Couldn’t be exacting their pound of flesh at the expense of their conservative beliefs to say nothing of the fact that it is at the expense of a decent man who is having his reputation smeared.

    Yeah, blame it on Trump. How about these two guys do what’s right? Period. No, this reflects on these two men and these two men alone. Has nothing to do with Trump. If they are going to sink this good men based on their hatred for Trump they are small and without character.!!!

    – Before Trump came along, Flake was viewed as one of the true conservatives in the Senate. Now, he has allowed his fight with Trump (both are guilty of attacking the other by the way) to potentially torpedo Kavanaugh. I think it’s petty on Flake’s part just as I think it’s petty on the part of Corker.

    However, it is also fair to say Trump has chosen to antagonize both men and, in some cases, in a very unseemly way. And now when he may need them the most, they may have allowed their disagreements and animosity to get in the way.

    Again, Flake and Corker are acting stupidly, but the law of unintended consequences stands. Had Trump not chosen to engage in stupid fights with members of his own party, it’s quite likely both may have been more willing to not engage in delaying, potentially, a SCOTUS nomination.

  758. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:16 pm
    BTW, isn’t it interesting that this left wing Democratic professor has now scrubbed all her social media.

    I wonder what it said. Any guesses, Robbie?

    – Phil, it’s sad to see you act this way. Simply because you and I do not share the same views on Trump, you have concluded I’m some sort of liberal in sheep’s clothing. It’s ridiculous and your sudden conclusion about me goes against my 14 year history of comments here.

    Of course, I’m sure you’ll follow this by yapping something about Morning Joe, a show I don’t watch.

  759. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    September 16, 2018 at 9:18 pm
    More- Washington Post
    Some more news — “multiple sources tell me Dems are not agreeing to follow up calls with Kavanaugh and Ford. @SenFeinstein tells the Post: “Staff calls aren’t the appropriate way to handle this.”

    This is looking more like a late hit attempt.

    – It was always a late hit attempt. Nothing more.

    The worst thing Republicans could do is agree to give this woman the national spotlight of a televised hearing.

    Republicans should not cave. I fear they will, though.

  760. Tina says:

    So, Mullah Corker went fetal too,

    Where at senators planned parenthood and the Maine Chicklet?

  761. CG says:

    Calm down people.

    Kavanaugh is still going to be confirmed. Flake will vote to confirm him, I am fairly certain.

    If he does not, I will disagree with the vote, while still thinking he is a billion percent better than Donald Trump.

  762. CG says:

    There is some unnecessary drama here over this. That’s what you all get for boycotting the NFL today. There were some great games.

  763. Tina says:

    Perv Biden called trump supporters the dredges of society.

    Way to go Schmoe.

  764. CG says:

    *If* she has a national spotlight, and if she comes across as non-credible, it’s going to look fairly obvious and would backfire on Democrats.

    It’s not a coincidence that Feinstein sat on this for months and then did not want her identity to even be released.

    This is a political Hail Mary.

  765. Phil says:

    No, Robbie. Flake and Corker aren’t acting “stupidly”. They are acting dishonorably. If you can’t see that I don’t know what to tell you.

    The two men are allowing an honorable man to be smeared all to get back at Trump. As I said, very small and petty men. It’s so sad.

  766. Tina says:

    Mullah corker and flakey are frauds.

    No backbones.

    All so that they can go on cnn and mslsd and be used as props.

  767. CG says:

    Has a vote been cast?

    Has a “no” vote been announced?

    Would a theoretical no vote sway the difference?

    Just calm down and stop acting like there is something to feel guilty about or be on the defensive on regarding Kavanaugh. There likely is not.

    I know that those of you who bend over backwards to defend Donald Trump on every matter and overlook everything from his past, including his admitted history of sexual assault, are sort of on reflexive mode.

    Kavanaugh is not Trump. If you want him on the Court, just calm down and trust the process.

  768. CG says:

    Focus on the North Dakota U.S. Senate race and how Republicans may actually win that one-

    http://cgpolitics.blogspot.com/2018/09/north-dakota-us-senate-race-of-day.html

  769. Tina says:

    Stfu, Clinton groupie.

    Sexual assault applies to bj, the spouse of your candidate in 2016.

  770. dblaikie says:

    It seems to me the Committee should follow Feinstein’s advice and let the FBI investigate. Give them a week to conduct interviews and establish that this bogus smear can’t be verified or proved in any way. There is no need for this woman to testify. If a member wants to talk to her let them. When the FBI issues their report in a week bring on the vote.

  771. CG says:

    Seems reasonable 790

  772. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Chinastein indicates that the witness will not appear.

    Case dismissed.

  773. Redmen4ever says:

    790. Does it also seem to you that Senator Feinstein should have brought this matter to the committee’s attention a couple months ago?

  774. Redmen4ever says:

    792. Even though my post 793 comes after yours, I didn’t know what your reported at the time. I think dismissing the matter is absolutely the correct thing to do, given what you say. The accuser didn’t want to be identified, but perhaps would have changed her mind if others came forward. I 100 percent respect that desire.

    Victims often feel alone. But, offering information in confidence enables law enforcement, school authorities and others to put together a profile, and several confidential reports or even one can amount to probable cause, or result in an informal investigation that can develop probable cause. Treating their information as confidential unless probable cause is developed, encourages victims to share the information they have.

  775. GF says:

    790 would seem reasonable, but I thought that the FBI already declined to investigate this further.

  776. Tina says:

    The fib declined to investigate “this bs.”

    Anyway, Kavanaugh has had 5 Fib Background checks.

  777. Wes says:

    An RRH Democrat (notice the lack of quotes) says, based on her lie detector testimony, Ford was definitely the victim of a sexual assault by Kavanugh. Some RRH “Republicans” (notice the quotes) have him all but convicted.

    An RRH moderator is even endorsing this kind of sleaze.

    How do you not go insane over there, Mnw?

  778. janz says:

    It’s been repeatedly said Kavanaugh has been thru 6 FBI investigations. Judge Neopolitan added that these investigations are very thorough, and he couldn’t see how such an incident could have been missed or overlooked.

  779. Wes says:

    This is from a sleazeball at RRH:

    SHAMLET
    September 16, 2018 at 10:17 pm | In reply to Izengabe
    We don’t know the details. Let a full deliberation of the allegations occur in the open, and if nothing more comes to substantiate them then confirm him.
    But I take issue with the “destroying a man’s life” line of thinking. I have very little empathy for anyone in politics. You are signing up for the potential to get your life destroyed when you step into the arena – that is in a sense the very essence of its nobility.
    R, MD-7. I’m happy with things the way they are.

    Even one of his fellow “Republicans” called him out on it. He confuses empathy with sympathy by the way. They are not interchangeable. I can’t endorse this level of sleaze for political gain. That he can be so callous to attempts to destroy a studiously crafted reputation says nothing good about him.

    This isn’t like Chappaquiddick or Tim Mahoney’s multiple affairs. This is a politically timed stunt, and we should hold this process to a higher standard.

  780. lisab says:

    wes,

    can you please explain the difference between empathy and sympathy with example(s)?

  781. janz says:

    I ran across this piece which connects the dots of these out-of-the-blue charges against Kanvanaugh into a broader picture.

    An interesting intersection in Ford’s story are the 2 dates revealed in her “remembering” process. Both 2012, when she spun her recollections out to a therapist, and 2018 when she is now aiming them at disrupting the Kanvanaugh hearings, are election years.

    In 2012, there were many who thought Romney would win the election. Speculation was that should he win, and be given an opportunity to select someone for the Supreme Court, his possible pick would be Kanvanaugh. Then as now, such a thought made dems noxious and anxious, especially since it was felt Kanvanaugh could be someone with enough conservation leanings to overturn Obamacare. Consequently, Ford’s accusation would have been just as useful and damning in 2012 as it is now in 2018.

    However, Romney did not win, and there was no need to go forward with her story. So, it sat dormant for 6 years until Ford could use it to sabotage Trump’s SCOTUS choice — Kanvanaugh who was already set up to take the fall in 2012 should it have been necessary.

    It was also woven into the linked article that being a psychologist, Ford would have been subjected to lots of classes where she herself would be undergoing self-analysis. Why then wouldn’t a past trauma have revealed itself earlier, and dealt with sometime during her training? I know in my own nursing classes, and later addiction studies, it was full of therapeutic round table discussions, papers written, journals kept all dealing with one’s own psychi. I would expect the same, if not more, would have been experienced by Ms. Ford over the last 3 decades or so.

  782. janz says:

    Lisab, interesting question in #800.

    As I see it, empathy revolves more around a personal understanding of someone’s plight.  For instance, a cancer survivor can empathize with a cancer patient undergoing treatment because they have been there themselves. 

    Whereas, sympathy is less experiential, invoked more by the innate compassion one person feels towards another’s painful circumstances, and used as a way to comfort them.  

  783. Mr.Vito says:

    You can basically derive it straight from the words…

    syn/sym meaning “together”

    as opposed to

    en/em meaning “within”

    People who empathize with someone will often have the same physiological response as the other person…

  784. GF says:

    Wes, in fairness to the Wise Guys, at least one (I think actually, two) of the moderators have admitted to being Asperger cases, and like any borderline autistic person (no matter how high functioning), are probably lucky to have ANY empathy at all.

  785. Mr.Vito says:

    Actually, only about half of people with autism are severely impaired by alexithymia (the condition you are talking about), about another third have some impairment, and 15% none at all.

  786. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    I flagged this yesterday. This should receive a lot of attention today.

    COULD THIS BE WHY SENATOR FEINSTEIN DIDN’T PURSUE FORD’S ALLEGATIONS UNTIL THE BITTER END? It’s possible that it was a purely tactical decision. But now that I’ve read the letter Ford wrote to Feinstein about Kavanaugh, one line stuck out: “I have received medical treatment regarding the assault.” Reading that, I would naturally think that the writer saw some sort of medical doctor about the assault within some short time frame after the assault. If I were on Feinstein’s staff, I would have contacted her and asked if she could provide any reasonably contemporaneous medical records. The answer, “Well, I brought it up at a couples therapy session 30 years later, without mentioning Kavanaugh’s name, and I also mentioned it to a personal therapist the following year” isn’t what we normally mean by “receiving medical treatment” after an assault.

    If the letter had been released, the first question from Republicans would have been about this “medical treatment.” Psychological counseling many years later, yes. Medical treatment, no. And Ford’s a psychology professor, so the difference shouldn’t be that obscure. Now, I’m not saying there aren’t plausible explanations for why she used the phrase “medical treatment” that would not undermine her credibility. But I am saying that if you allege sexual assault in the distant past against a Supreme Court nominee, and you claim in writing to have undergone medical treatment as a result of the assault, but you never saw a medical doctor, and didn’t even see a therapist for thirty-three years, a Senator might not want to stake her reputation on your claim.(H/T: InstaPundit)

  787. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Can the Minnesota Senate race for the Franken seat be a sleeper contest for the GOP?

    Star Tribune/MPR/Mason Dixon MN Senate Polls

    Smith (D) 44%
    Housley (R) 37%

    Klobuchar (D) 60%
    Newberger (R) 30%

    http://www.startribune.com/minnesota-senate-poll-star-tribune-mpr-news-tina-smith-karin-housley-amy-klobuchar-jim-newberger/493290421/

  788. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Here is an interesting theory about Ms. Ford:

    http://www.bookwormroom.com/2018/09/16/accusation-kavanaugh-plan-2012/

  789. Bitterlaw says:

    798. If nobody talked about it and the FBI did not interview every person who was ever at a party with Kavanaugh, it could easily be missed by the FBI. I think the story is made up but the FBI investigation line does not disprove it.

  790. Tina says:

    Ok, the accusers story is not adding up.

    She first mentioned four personss, now it is just Kavanaugh and his friend?

    It appears that her family has a history with Kavanaughs mom regarding a foreclosure in the 1990s.

  791. Tina says:

    Senator Planned Parenthood now wants a delay.

    I am sure the Maine Chicklet will request the same,

    The Rs will implode mid term if they kill Kavanaugh.

  792. Redmen4ever says:

    0ptimus battleground state poll: Trump favorability -3

    http://firehousestrategies.com/firehouse-optimus-swing-state-september-survey/

    >needless to say IVR poll, not live-caller

  793. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Gravis Marketing has the Nevada Senate race at Heller(R) 45% to Rosen(D) 47% and Laxalt(R) down 38%-50% in the Governor’s race. The PID is D+7, which seems high for Nevada.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/Nevada_(September_13_2018)_v2.pdf

  794. Tina says:

    Yeah, that is a little too drat friendly for Nevada given the party registration changes that favor Rs since 2016.

    I thinking pull the one off, it will be close, however.

  795. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Unfortunately, the GOP has caved on Kavanaugh. Kellyanne Conway said that the GOP has agreed to hold a public hearing for her.

  796. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This could help Kavanaugh at the margins.

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3688132/posts

  797. Tina says:

    ilton ?
    @alexhamilton74
    Follow
    Daily reminder to Republicans: Play by the New Rules. Don’t be cowards. Give no ground. Hit back ten times harder. Show no mercy. Eviscerate #ChristineBlaseyFord #ConfirmJudgeKavanaugh WIN
    4

    Playing by Groper 41/mute 43/gop-e rules is not helpful.

  798. Tina says:

    Norah O’Donnell “Why does your client believe that Judge Kavanaugh’s alleged behavior in high school disqualifies him from becoming a Supreme Court justice?” Accuser Christine Blasey Ford’s Lawyer: “She hasn’t taken that position” @ChuckGrassley @senjudiciary #ConfirmKavanaugh pic.twitter.com/M30dQ7uWuv
    5:06 AM – 17 Sep 2018

  799. Todd McCain says:

    CBS:

    Tester 47
    Rosendale 45

    We might just win this one.

  800. Hugh says:

    Have the hearing this week. Then vote. We know what she has to say. Let her say it and move on. Had the dems not made such as ses of themselves it would of be seen by many more as legitimate.

  801. dblaikie says:

    I believe that the Republicans now that this woman has come forward have to give her some kind of forum. Let her speak before Thursday, let the Judge respond, let the FBI try and investigate. But since the woman opened this can of worms she should be investigated too!! Who knows what will be found? At the end of the day I predict that this woman’s motives will be revealed, nothing new discovered and that we have the same story with 3 people and 2 deny anything happened.

    If public believes the process is fair and nothing new is discovered expect the background of the professor, the Dems. will be in a terrible place. If the vote is postponed because of a late bogus charge you will see the red state dems go down in flames. With an increased majority Kavanaugh will be confirmed easily.

    Of course if Judge Kavanaugh somehow has been able to cover up a problem that has eluded 6 FBI background checks (highly unlikely) well then the public needs to know it.

    Now that this woman has come forward the Republicans really can’t ignore her. What they can do is be focused and quick to do their job and still have the final vote within a month.

  802. mnw says:

    Sheep 816

    Nice catch there.

  803. dblaikie says:

    All I can say that if this turns out to be a smear, and I believe it will, it is a despicable act. To a take a fine man, a good father, and an honest citizen and drag his name through the mud is a terrible thing. This act alone should enrage the good people across this country who don’t live in California, New York, and the rest of liberal loony land.

  804. Hugh says:

    Why postpone?? She’s had 35 years to prepare. She can testify Wednesday

  805. dblaikie says:

    816 I believe that this kind of stuff will just be the beginning. In the end, we will perhaps know more about this professor than she realizes.

  806. dblaikie says:

    She should testify Wednesday. And so should the Judge.

  807. Tina says:

    Reports indicate she cannot remember when and where this occurred.

    She may have been drunk, or is a former alcoholic.

    May have had 65 sexual partners.

  808. mnw says:

    Tina said she won’t appear, but apparently she’s agreed to, from all news sources I’ve read.

    Wes

    RE: RRH

    How do I stand it? What’s my secret?

    Well…there are a lot of advantages to being a high functioning, low to mid-level sociopath.

  809. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    822-825
    Can you explain to us why Ms. Ford scrubbed all her social media accounts a few days before she went public yesterday? I have a very good idea. Her evil hate and nuttiness would have been exposed.
    Can an expert recover her files?

  810. Tina says:

    Mnw, Frankenstein said she would not appear last night.

    Maybe a change of mind this am?

  811. DW says:

    this from RRH:

    Shot: https://twitter.com/Larry_Beech/status/1041519668966645761
    Folks…Christine Ford’s mom (Paula K Blasey) and dad (Ralph G Blasey) were defendants in a foreclosure case in Maryland in 1996. Guess who the judge was? Martha G Kavanaugh, mother of Brett Kavanaugh.

  812. Tina says:

    Likewise, we have the fact that her therapist described four assailants and Ford now claims that was an error on the therapists part. Though her therapist has detailed notes, she never writes down Kavanaugh’s name. We just have Ford’s husband claiming Ford named Kavanaugh at the time, but it was apparently not a detail significant enough for the therapist to record.

  813. Phil says:

    Well, with MCCain now gone Democrats need a new Rino to parade around. Enter Jeff Flake.

  814. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    A new Emerson Poll has Manchin(D) +12 in West Virginia, 33-45%.

  815. mnw says:

    Breitbart has a nice dashboard of all the celebs who have jumped on the Kavanaugh hate train as a result of this. I never heard of any of them, except for Stephen King & Rosie O’Donnell, but other posters here probably have.

  816. Hugh says:

    Why should the judge testify?? He should not. The dems will spend hours asking him under oath everything he did in high school. I would not want to discuss everything I did.

  817. Wes says:

    I have a hard time believing Ford mentioned Kavanugh during her therapy sessions. The name of a would-be rapist would be a significant detail for a therapist to note during a session discussing the event.

    The claim that the notes are inaccurate to such a degree as not to include the alleged assailant’s name or the accurate number of people present is a rather difficult hurdle to overcome.

  818. Wes says:

    Manchin’s support may be softening, Sheep. I hope the NRA will now spend money on Morrisey’s behalf.

  819. Wes says:

    I’ve heard of most of them, Mnw. They seem to have the man convicted without trial. Can we at least weigh all known facts before declaring him a vicious predator?

  820. mnw says:

    Here’s one thing I know for sure: If the DEMs take the Senate,* do NOT look for the lame duck Senate to confirm K, after the election. That’s just not how human nature works. imo.

    * the probability of this happening is greater than zero.

  821. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    A new Hill TV Poll has the Generic Congressional Ballot at D+5, 36-41%.

    https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/406720-dem-lead-shrinks-on-generic-house-ballot

  822. Wes says:

    For all you who like to bash her, Susan Collins made a fair statement. She deserves accolades for not falling into this trap.

  823. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #838
    Just curious why you believe Manchin’s(D-WV) support is softening with a 12 pt. lead? I hope you are correct.

  824. mnw says:

    Sheep 842

    Selzer may have found something earlier, when she said D+2.

  825. mnw says:

    Btw, every time I posted about what worthless zh*ts Flake, Corker & McCain have proven themselves to be, I got hit with, “But they voted conservative 85% of the time!”

    They save their betrayals for the few genuinely crucial votes: ACA, JCPOA & Kavanaugh, to name a few.

  826. Wes says:

    He has a 12-point lead because Morrisey in the poll is in the mid 30s, Sheep. 45% for an incumbent—especially one who last won with 61%—is the cusp of the danger zone for an incumbent. Thus, one could argue West Virginians are less sold on Manchin than before but still want Morrisey to make a solid case for himself.

    This applies to Dean Heller too, who’s also at 45%though Heller was mired at this same level in 2012 but still eked our a victory.

  827. Tina says:

    Enter Jeff Flake.

    Assisted by Mullah Corker.

  828. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Wes #847
    Points well said. Thanks.

  829. Tina says:

    https://www.themaven.net/theresurgent/erick-erickson/the-washington-post-story-contradicts-christine-ford-s-lawyer-AFLVa7hSNEKYwrAtuuMB1Q/

    Erick the Red has not gone wobbly.

    He needs sun dance from Cth to better help him presemt the facts.

  830. Wes says:

    If I’m in Camp Morrisey and see Manchin at 45% I look at what issues the Senator is weak on and hammer those home while saying I personally will reflect my potential constituents’ wishes in the Senate better than Manchin.

    Since the NRA has endorsed Morrisey, they can unleash money for him that will be helpful in reaching gun-owning Manchin supporters and getting them to waver.

    The preexisting conditions clause in Obamacare seems to be what Manchin is hitting Morrisey with. Morrisey needs to counter by saying he doesn’t oppose that aspect of the law but will work hard to remove the onerous provisions of the ACA that have hurt West Virginians by driving up their insurance premiums—unlike Joe Manchin, who has done nothing on that front during eight years in the Senate.

    There are many things Morrisey can do to build his own standing in the polls and exceed Manchin’s 45%.

  831. Tina says:

    Kavanaughs “accuser has donated to Hillary, the Dnc, and Emiliys List.

    I would never have guessed this. /s

  832. Tina says:

    We went from muh Op-Ed to Muh accuser.

  833. Wes says:

    In rape and attempted rape allegations, credibility is key. Thus far, what Ford is saying Kavanugh did isn’t very credible. She looks more and more like a partisan hack trying to derail a nomination.

    It would have helped had she had any recollection of the location, time, and other people present. Kavanugh’s name on the therapist’s notes would be a smoking gun. Saying the therapist just didn’t write down the name of the would-be rapist in a session is a suspect argument. It is at best an unlikely occurrence.

    We thus have no pattern of behavior on his part versus an allegation from the Reagan Administration never verbalized—and even then not stated in concrete terms—for 29 years by by a woman with a known political axe to grind against the political Right.

    There isn’t enough of a credible allegation here to justify derailing Kavanugh in my view .

  834. Tina says:

    The accuser is no disputing details taken down by the psychiatrist. Four attackers? Now two?

    Cannot recall any details.

    Locked in a bathroom (initial claim) to an assault.

  835. Wes says:

    That to me is the weakest part of her allegation, Tina. A therapist will only write down what the patient says during a session. Ford is now claiming the notes are inaccurate. Why would they be? Ford would have to make a plausible case for their inaccuracy. Just making the claim isn’t enough.

  836. mnw says:

    A prosecutor on a rape case should look around carefully to see if other charges can be joined. See if you can find a way to give the jury a more complete look at the def, even if the additional charges are trivial in and of themselves, i.e., a misdemeanor assault on a different victim, near the time or place of the alleged rape.

    Most indicted sex offenders don’t testify because they don’t want the jury to know about their prior convictions. Criminal offenders rarely start right off with forcible rape.

  837. Tina says:

    She is done in by the notes and the second witness, Mr. judge.

  838. mnw says:

    I would ask the supposed victim, “Why didn’t you report this in 1990? Why not in 1991, then? Why not in 1992? 1993? 1994?” & so on, until the judge made me quit.

    In real life, no prosecutor ever born would indict this mess, of course.

  839. Tina says:

    The notes make no reference to Kavanaugh.

    She and her husband maintain that they told her.

  840. DW says:

    Rasmussen approval today 49/50

  841. Todd McCain says:

    I have always been skeptical of people that come out after 25-30 years and say they were groped or raped or assaulted especially when it comes out at a significant life event for the accused…..this is crazy and I hope the Dems get espoused….this individual is a contributer to progressive causes and apparently Kavanaugh’s mom ruled against her parents on some case years ago.

  842. Redmen4ever says:

    Accuser’s lawyer says accuser willing to testify under oath “if asked.”

    Either the Committee Chair or Ranking Member can ask. This puts the ball into the court of the senior Senatrix from California.

    BTW Why does California have two members of the minority on this committee?

  843. Wes says:

    The name of a would-be rapist would be a significant part of a therapy session discussing the putative attack. Why then is the name not in the notes?

    I have to think Ford is lying in this part at least, barring a credible reason for the lack of identification—which, by the way, would be enough evidence to torpedo Kavanugh—in the notes.

  844. Wes says:

    Schumer can appoint anyone he wants to any committee so long as the Dem Senators don’t exceed their allotted numbers on the committee, Redmen. That’s why.

    Grassley should ask Ford to testify.

  845. NYCmike says:

    Democrats are counting on some Republicans to act like this……notice that the “I hope I am wrong…” part comes AFTER the waffle. The best part is when he says “putting any faith in….” and then lists 2 of 3 names he has lauded countless times over the past 2 years for their “conservative” approach to governance.

    Robbie says:
    September 16, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    Right now, I’d have to say it’s more likely than not Kavanaugh’s confirmation is torpedoed and that probably means Democrats may well succeed in preventing this seat from being filled for some time and possibly not before 2020 if they win the Senate.

    I hope I am wrong, but putting any faith in Flake, Collins, or Murkowski is a mistake.

  846. NYCmike says:

    I am sorry, Robbie only put Flake in there…..I read Collins as Corker, hence the 2 out of 3.

    My error.

    1 out of 3 ain’t bad…..Meatloaf, write another song!

  847. mnw says:

    DW 863

    Hmmm…cough! Selzer may have nailed it! cough!

  848. Tina says:

    A24
    @DodgUSA24
    11m
    Replying to @LarrySchweikart
    I’m just so furious. Everyone feels the need to punch back x1000 against this nonsense. But then we have to humor the likes of Flake and Corker, two disgusting, bought and paid for, low IQ morons. Can’t wait till Trump fights back hard.
    View conversation ·

  849. Tina says:

    Everybody seems to have missed the Clinton groupies statement that trump “admitted to committing sexual assaults.”

  850. NYCmike says:

    “Can’t wait till Trump fights back hard.”

    -Not sure if I want Trump tagging in to the ring….

  851. dblaikie says:

    Collin’s statement is huge and frankly surprised me. She has gone way up in my estimation. She is a liberal Republican, but she is an honest liberal Republican. That means a great deal in the swamp world of Washington DC. With her statement Murkowski will follow suit and you will see the weasels Flake and Corker slowly craw back into their holes.

  852. NYCmike says:

    “conservative” Flake and “Hero” Corker – I am soooo surprised by their actions.

    Collins – I applaud her even-handed statement, which blamed Democrats for mistreating both the woman and Kavanaugh.

  853. NYCmike says:

    db,

    Well said! I did not see your statement until after mine dropped.

  854. Tina says:

    Well the Drats now do not want a hearing into this right away.

    They want more delays- about another month,

    THis is per Turbin Durbin,

  855. dblaikie says:

    It is not easy to get Collin’s statement on Google (big surprise). You have to google exactly “Collin’s blast dems. over kavanaugh” and then it is way down the page. So here is the link, screw you google:
    https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/406952-collins-knocks-democrats-over-handling-of-kavanaugh-assault

  856. Phil says:

    What does that tell you about Flake and Corker that Susan Collins (who has by far the most to lose since she’s the only one of the three that faces future voters)is standing up more than these two weaklings?

    It tells you exactly what we already knew about the both of them.

  857. Tina says:

    Corker and Flake are amoral scumbags.

  858. dblaikie says:

    I wonder when CNN and MSNBC will disclose the story of Ford’s parents foreclosure by the Judge’s Mom. Not very soon I imagine.

  859. Wes says:

    From RRH on the two supposedly competitive NM House seats:

    MOSHEM
    September 17, 2018 at 10:29 am | In reply to Greyhound
    Their LV screen is for voters who voted in 2014 and 2016. I would throw them out.
    30, M, R, NY-10 (Soon-to-be NY-17)

    Aren’t voters who voted in the two most recent elections the epitome of likely voters? They do have a recent pattern of voting after all.

  860. dblaikie says:

    Good for Judge Kavanaugh! A person who has integrity will fight with everything in them to protect it. I believe that at the end of this the Dems will have mud, mixed with eggs all over their faces and bodies. Here is the link about his willingness to fight:
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/17/kavanaugh-willing-talk-congress-about-allegations/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_campaign=pushnotify&utm_medium=push

  861. dblaikie says:

    882 Wes, Greyhound’s post reveals a very limited mind.

  862. dblaikie says:

    Now Google has Collin’s statement where it should be.

  863. Bitterlaw says:

    The accuser donated to Hillary? Zzzzzzzzz

    Trump donated to Hillary, Schumer, Reid and Planned Parenthood and Tina does not doubt anything he says.

  864. dblaikie says:

    I suppose bitter, the question is when she donated to Hilary and how much. After all Trump’s donations were way in the past. And, by the way, to know these things isn’t boring. She has put herself in the spotlight, and now it is the time to let it shine, let it shine, let it shine on HER LIFE. Sorry my Sunday School songs came back to haunt me.

  865. DW says:

    Evidence the WV senate poll by Emerson might be a little left-leaning…

    WV_03 subset of statewide poll:

    Ojeda (D) 36%
    Miller (R) 31%

    Siena, not exactly a right-wing pollster, had just found this race to be 48/37 with Miller +11

    This after Monmouth found it to be a margin of error race.

  866. NYCmike says:

    “The accuser donated to Hillary? Zzzzzzzzz

    Trump donated to Hillary, Schumer, Reid and Planned Parenthood and Tina does not doubt anything he says.”

    -Bitterlaw,

    Did “The accuser” donate ANY $$ to Republicans?

    “46%” of a certain political party would like to know.

  867. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – I don’t believe in redemption. I will never give Trump a free pass for his donations to Democrats. I don’t care if he puts 9 Scalias on the Supreme Court. I will never fully trust him.

  868. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    I don’t know what that has to do with a fair and equitable comparison between persons who donated.

    Name me one other “liberal Democrat”, as Trump was described in the 2016 primary season, who gave any $$ to Republicans. Trump gave almost half.

    Give me any name of a person who is a liberal Democrat who gave, say, how about, 10%?

    Anyone?

  869. Wes says:

    Bitter, has MD declared Kavanaugh to be the most evil human being since Ted Bundy yet and called for his public flaying?

  870. DW says:

    updated dashboard after a huge number of herding changes as they all try to keep pace with each other moving the rankings hard left regardless what the polling says:

    Paladin – 2018 House Dashboard
    ————————————————————————————————-
    C Dist | Cnt | Cook | Gonz. | Saba.| CNN | RCP | RRH | Kos | 538 | Poli. | Avg Scr. — Latest Poll R/D
    ————————————————————————————————-
    OH_15 R | 144 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.5 —
    PA_14* D | 145 | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | 5.5 —
    OK_05 R | 146 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 5.3 — 49/35 (Vcreek)
    OH_10 R | 147 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    CA_22 R | 148 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 — 48/43 (Tulchin-D)
    NY_23 R | 149 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Ln R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | 5.1 —
    NC_08 R | 150 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | 5.1 —
    AZ_06 R | 151 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    AK_01 | 152 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 — 40/36 (Lake Res.)
    IN_09 R | 153 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    OH_07 R | 154 | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    AZ_08 R | 155 | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.8 —
    MO_02 R | 156 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | 4.6 — 51/40 (Rem.)
    IA_04 | 157 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.6 — 41/31 (Emerson) |43/37 (D-Int)
    CO_03 R | 158 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    TX_31 R | 159 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 — 46/40 (PPP-D)
    IN_02 R | 160 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    MI_01 R | 161 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.4 —
    FL_15* R | 162 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | 4.2 — 47/48 (Dem. Corp-D)
    FL_06* R | 163 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 47/46 (D-Int)
    SC_01 R | 164 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 49/42 (PPP-D)
    CA_04 R | 165 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 —
    FL_25 R | 166 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 46/39 (St. Pete)
    TX_21* R | 167 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4.2 — 33/27 (Chg Res.)
    PA_16 R | 168 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | 4.2 — 50/44 (D-Int)
    NY_27 | 169 | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 —
    WI_06 R | 170 | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 4 —
    OH_14 R | 171 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 4 —
    MI_07 R | 172 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | 4 — 41/37 (DCCC-D)
    GA_07 R | 173 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.7 — 44/46 (Tulchin-D)
    NY_24 R | 174 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 — 54/39 (Siena)
    FL_18 R | 175 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 —
    MI_06 R | 176 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.7 — 49/44 (GSG-D) |45/41 (PPP-D)
    NY_01 R | 177 | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.5 —
    CA_21 R | 178 | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.3 —
    WA_03 R | 179 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.3 — 42/37 (Lake R.)
    FL_16 R | 180 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Sf R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.3 — 49/37 (PPP-D) | 48/44 (D-Int)
    GA_06* R | 181 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.3 — 49/47 (D-Inc)
    IL_14 R | 182 | Lk R | Sf R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 3.1 — 45/41 (PPP-D)
    PA_10 R | 183 | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 3.1 —
    NY_11 R | 184 | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | 3.1 —
    NC_02 R | 185 | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.8 — 44/45 (GQR-D) | 43/44 (SUSA)
    CA_50 R | 186 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 — 47/39 (SUSA) | 46/46 (Tulchin-D)
    AR_02 R | 187 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Sf R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2.8 — 47/42 (PPP-D) | 50/41 (Hendrix)
    VA_05 R | 188 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Lk R | Lk R | Toss | Lk R | 2.6 —
    MT_01 R | 189 | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Lk R | Lk R | Lk R | 2.6 — 43/49 (Gravis)
    IL_13 R | 190 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2.4 — 45/42 (PPP-D)
    WA_05 R | 191 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 44/38 (elway)
    NC_13 R | 192 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 2 — 40/35 (Civitas)
    UT_04 R | 193 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2 — 48/38 (Lighthouse) | 49/46 (Dan Jones) | 51/42 (Y2)
    WI_01* R | 194 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Ln R | 2 — 50/44 (Siena)
    NM_02* R | 195 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.8 — 49/35 (Carroll) | 48/41 (Res.&Poll.)
    OH_12 R | 196 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.6 — 48/44 (PPP-D) | 47/46 (D-Int)
    PA_01 R | 197 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | 1.4 — 49/42
    WV_03* R | 198 | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | 1.3 — 41/43 (Monm.) |48/37 (Siena) | 31/36 (Emerson)
    NE_02 R | 199 | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 1.3 —
    VA_02 R | 200 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Lk R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 1.1 — 48/42 (PPP-D)
    TX_32 R | 201 | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Lk R | Toss | 1.1 — 47/45 (GBA)
    IL_06 R | 202 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 0.8 — 44/37 (Victory Res.) | 39/40 (Siena)
    OH_01 R | 203 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Lk R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.8 — 43/42 (PPP-D)
    FL_26 R | 204 | Ln R | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.7 — 48/41 (DCCC-D)
    IL_12 R | 205 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | 0.7 — 44/39 (PPP-D) |44/37 (Siena)
    TX_23 R | 206 | Ln R | Tlt R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.7 — 44/43 (PPP-D) | (49/40 (Siena)
    VA_07 R | 207 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | 0.5 — 48/39 (Siena)
    ME_02 R | 208 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.5 — 40/39 (D-Int)
    NJ_03 R | 209 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Lk R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.4 — 41/40 (Monm.) | 45/47 (D-Int)
    KS_03 R | 210 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln R | Toss | 0.4 — 43/46 (GSG-D)
    NJ_07 R | 211 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln D | Toss | 0.3 — 45/47 (GQR-D)
    KS_02* R | 212 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 34/39 (Mellman-D)
    MI_08 R | 213 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 45/39 (Target Ins)
    TX_07 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.3 — 47/45 (D-Int.)
    IA_03 R | 215 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 47/31 (Emerson) | 43/46 (D-Int)
    CA_45 R | 216 | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 45/44 (D-Int) | 46/49 (D-Int)
    NY_19 R | 217 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0.2 — 49/44 (IMGE) |45/40 (Siena) | 43/45 (Monmouth)
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    MN_03 R | 218 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln R | Ln R | Ln D | Toss | 0.1 — 43/46 (PPP-D) | 40/50 (Siena)
    MN_08* D | 217 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | 0.2 — 43/42 (Siena)
    KY_06 R | 216 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Toss | Ln D | 0 — 49/45 (FLA-R) |48/43 Siena |43/50 (D-Int)
    CA_39* R | 215 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | 0 — 45/43 (DCCC-D)
    CA_10 R | 214 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.1 — 48/48 (GHY-D)
    MN_01* D | 213 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.2 — 47/33 (Harper)
    CA_48 R | 212 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.2 — 45/47 (Monm.) |39/46 (Siena)
    NY_22 R | 211 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.2 — 44/46 (Siena)
    NC_09* R | 210 | Toss | Tlt R | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | -0.3 — 43/44 (D-Int)
    CA_25 R | 209 | Toss | Tlt R | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | -0.3 — 47/47 (IMGE)
    WA_08* R | 208 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | -0.4 — 51/45 (GBA)
    CO_06 R | 207 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Lk D | Toss | -0.4 — (45/45 IMGE) | 38/52 (Siena)
    MN_02 R | 206 | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Toss | Lk D | Toss | -0.4 — 43/42 (PPP-D) |46/45 (R-Int)
    MI_11* R | 205 | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Toss | -0.6 — 42/45 (PPP-D)
    IA_01 R | 204 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln R | Toss | Lk D | Ln D | -1 — 41/43 (D Int.) | 38/43 (Emerson)
    NJ_11* R | 203 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | -1.6 — 38/40 (Monmouth)
    PA_07* R | 202 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Toss | Lk D | Ln D | -1.6 — 45/47 (Monmouth)
    AZ_02* R | 201 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Toss | -1.8 —
    VA_10 R | 200 | Toss | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | -1.8 — 39/49 (Monm.)
    CA_49* R | 199 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Lk D | Ln D | -1.8 — 46/43 (R-Int)
    NH_01* D | 198 | Lk D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | -2.1 —
    NV_03* D | 197 | Ln D | Tlt D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | -2.3 —
    PA_17 R | 196 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Toss | Ln D | Sf D | Lk D | -2.4 — 39/51 (Monm.)
    NV_04* D | 195 | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | -2.6 — 41/41 (R-Int)
    FL_27* R | 194 | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Ln D | -3.1 —
    AZ_01 D | 193 | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Ln D | -3.1 —
    PA_08 D | 192 | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.3 —
    MN_07 D | 191 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | -3.5 —
    FL_07 D | 190 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -3.7 — 46/47 (St. Pete)
    NJ_05 D | 189 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -4 — 39/36 (R-Int)
    PA_06* R | 188 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -4 —
    NJ_02* R | 187 | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | -4.2 — 39/44 (PPP-D)
    CA_07 D | 186 | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Ln D | -4.2 — 41/50 (POS)
    CT_05* D | 185 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Toss | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | -4.6 —
    AZ_09* D | 184 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -4.8 —
    NH_02 D | 183 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.1 —
    PA_05* R | 182 | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.1 —
    CA_24 D | 181 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.1 — 46/47 (Olive Tree St.)
    NY_18 D | 180 | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.1 —
    IA_02 D | 179 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.3 —
    WI_03 D | 178 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.5 —
    FL_13 D | 177 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.5 —
    MD_06 D | 176 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | -5.5 —
    NY_25 D | 175 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.7 — 31/55 (Siena)
    OR_05 D | 174 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.7 —
    NY_03 D | 173 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.7 —
    KY_03 D | 172 | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D | Sf D | -5.7 —

    *indicates open seat

  871. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Is that the best defense you have for Trump? “He gave money to the most hard-core leftists in the Senate but he isn’t that bad.”

  872. Todd McCain says:

    Collins in NY will stay on ballot…..we just cant catch a break.

  873. Bitterlaw says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/formmb?lang=en

    Wes – He is not flaying Kavanaugh. It would take time away from his collusion posts.

    I do not have a twitter account so I have to look him up online.

  874. DW says:

    So far Steve Knight (R-Inc) doing OK in Siena CA_25 poll:

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/upshot/elections-poll-ca25-1.html

    You can see above how far below the magic line it is.

  875. NYCmike says:

    “Is that the best defense you have for Trump?”

    -Statements of fact are usually a pretty high standard.

    If you think 46% is the same as ZERO, so be it.

    Pretty clear why you became a lawyer and not an accountant……well, then again, accountants really know how to manipulate numbers, so that may be a bad comparison itself.

  876. NYCmike says:

    From MD’s twitter:

    “Angry WH Staffer
    @AngrierWHStaff
    ·
    11h
    All the people who were foaming at the mouth about Franken are conspicuously “no comment” on Kavanaugh. It’s almost as if the principled conservatives were outraged based on politics, not propriety.”

    -Photographic evidence from the recent past, as well as written-out-skits, tend to give more credence to one accusation compared to another one that is decades old and has many conflicting “facts”.

    MD’s wife must have a real tight hold on him!

  877. Wes says:

    CNN has a couple of new polls out, one saying Sinema leads 50-43, the other claiming Bredesen leads 50-45.

    I have a hard time believing these. They definitely look like outliers.

  878. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – The day that Trump donated to Hillary or Schumer or Reid ended forever any pretense that he can ever be trusted by me. Donating to all 3 makes it impossible for me to ever consider him as anything but a lib who saw an opportunity to run in an extremely divided GOP primary field. If the GOP loses the House, I expect that he will veer left. I never pretended Trump was anything but a necessary evil to stop Hillary.

  879. DW says:

    Here is the standard fare at RRH this morning:

    VastBlightKingConspiracy
    September 17, 2018 at 12:16 pm | In reply to Tekzilla
    I think it’s clear that Democrats are favorites to take the Senate. Democrats poll better in Tennessee than Republicans poll in North Dakota. This going to be the last GOP trifecta in a generation, which means SCOTUS will be lost for a generation unless they can ram through a nominee ASAP.

  880. Tina says:

    Oh please Bl.

    Spare me.

    But cg takes the prize since trump admitted to sexually assaulting women,

  881. Tina says:

    https://news.grabien.com/story-8-reasons-question-veracity-kavanaughs-accuser

    Not sure if I linked this.

    12 reasons why she should be ignored.

  882. Tina says:

    This get s a Boom!

    Nick Short
    @PoliticalShort
    1h
    Two hours after Comey’s termination became public on May 9, 2017, Peter Strzok texted Lisa Page, “We need to open the case we’ve been waiting on now while Andy is acting.” foxnews.com/politics/2018/… pic.twitter.com/2uvasEzqQr
    View photo ·

  883. Robbie says:

    The last thing Republicans should do is give Kavanaugh’s accuser a public hearing. They should not validate her claims in this way. It would be a spectacle and the press would turn this woman into a martyr. Kavanaugh could not survive the fallout, regardless of the veracity of her claims.

    Having said that, I fear Kavanaugh is toast.

  884. Wes says:

    CNN’s new pollster has a 20% success rate. Their previous pollster had a 72% success rate.

    Hm.

  885. Wes says:

    Right, Robbie. We know no other Supreme Court nominee has ever survived testimony against him of sexual impropriety:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarence_Thomas

  886. DW says:

    I had to do this with NBC/Marist polls a few weeks back, so I will do the same with these CNN polls. Lets go back to 2014 to see how they did:

    CNN

    Arkansas

    Pryor 47
    Cotton 49

    Final results:

    Prior 39
    Cotton 56

    Colorado

    Gardner 50
    Udall 46

    Final results:

    Gardner 48
    Udall 46

    Georgia

    Nunn 47
    Perdue 44

    Final Results:

    Nunn 45
    Perdue 53

    Iowa

    Ernst 48
    Braley 49

    Final Results:

    Ernst 52
    Braley 44

    Kansas

    Roberts 49
    Orman 48

    Final Results:

    Roberts 53
    Orman 43

    Kentucky

    McConnell 50
    Grimes 46

    Final Results:

    McConnell 56
    Grimes 41

    North Carolina

    Tillis 43
    Hagan 46

    Final Results:

    Tillis 49
    Hagan 47

    So they got CO right…even a stopped clock gets it right twice a day.

  887. Todd McCain says:

    Not a big believer in discounting polls, but considering how horrible CNN has become and how virulently anti-GOP it is; I don’t see how Republicans can trust anything from that network.

    Re Kavanaugh, the GOP needs to stand by their man or risk losing everything. If we cave, I think it begets absolute disaster.

  888. Wes says:

    Even so, the Senate Republicans can’t afford to not have Ford testify. She made the allegation. If it stands up under scrutiny, then Kavanaugh should fall. If not, then he should be confirmed.

  889. Wes says:

    That was a different pollster, DW. The new CNN pollster has a 1/5 track record.

  890. Tina says:

    “The standard procedure for updates to any nominee’s background investigation file is to conduct separate follow-up calls with relevant parties. In this case, that would entail phone calls with at least Judge Kavanaugh and Dr. Ford. Consistent with that practice, I asked Senator Feinstein’s office yesterday to join me in scheduling these follow-ups. Thus far, they have refused. But as a necessary step in evaluating these claims, I’ll continue working to set them up.

    Grassley is fuming. “Accuser” and Chinastein are not cooperating.

  891. Wes says:

    Gallup says Trump is at 38-56.

    No es bueno.

  892. Hugh says:

    Wes. Help me understand. We already know exactly what she’s going to say. So how much veracity is going to be shed from these hearings? In my view none. However at this point they should have her testify.

  893. Tina says:

    Journal Poll: Herrell leads Torres Small in southern NM buff.ly/2D3NoET #nm2 pic.twitter.com/j7wdwzcern

    Open seat, but Muh blue wave wrote the Jebots.

  894. Tina says:

    She may not be presentable at this stage and needs “coaching.” That is why the Drats want a month delay.

  895. mnw says:

    Wes

    See 863 above.

    Muy bueno.

  896. Wes says:

    We know what she’ll say, Hugh. The point of her testimony before the committee will be to see if she can plausibly explain the inconsistencies in her story and lend a greater sense of veracity to her claims than exists.

    If she can not, then she had her day and made an unconvincing, uncorroborated allegation, and Kavanaugh should be confirmed.

    If she can, then the Senate should reject Kavanaugh.

    That’s pretty much the extent of it.

  897. DW says:

    Wes, even so, the news agency who hires a pollster often sets the parameters of what they want to see in terms of how weighting should be done, etc., no?

  898. Wes says:

    I don’t see why Grassley should delay her testimony. She had enough time to write a letter about the supposed attack. She obviously knows what her allegation is. There’s no reason for her to have to wait to testify on the matter.

  899. Wes says:

    True, DW.

  900. lisab says:

    “Btw, every time I posted about what worthless zh*ts Flake, Corker & McCain have proven themselves to be, I got hit with, “But they voted conservative 85% of the time!”

    but they were solid when it came to national pineapple day 🙂

  901. Wes says:

    Grassley should have Ford testify this week. If her story holds up under scrutiny, then so be it. If not, then she’s a partisan charlatan lacking credibility, and Kavanaugh should win confirmation.

  902. mnw says:

    If the GOP delays her testimony beyond this week, than the GOP can be rolled.

    Hardly be the first time.

  903. NYCmike says:

    “If the GOP delays her testimony beyond this week, than the GOP can be rolled.”

    -Robbie is Exhibit A, and Wes as usual looks pretty weak in the knees.

  904. Tina says:

    They will be rolled because they are caught flat footed.a

    Then, you have corker and flakey, two amoral scumbags.

  905. NYCmike says:

    It is a disgusting ploy. Ginsberg’s words should be repeated over and over, how wrong this process is.

    To think that RBG received 97 YAY votes.

  906. gameboy says:

    You have to give the Dems credit. They know how to play dirty, and the Reps let them get away with it. I’m shocked there is even a consideration of this garbage being brought up at the last second. The vote to confirm must go on as planned for this week. If there is any delay at all the resident DNC boy Robbie is correct….”He is toast”

  907. hugh says:

    922. I could not disagree more. So she weaves together a more plausible story after 35 years and lots of memory loss. So what? Without a witness collaborating her story we should ruin a man’s life? what country are we in?

  908. Wes says:

    Weak in the knees how, Mikey? I said she should testify this week. If she can make plausible sense of the numerous inconsistencies in her story, then it becomes credible, and Kavanaugh should not be confirmed. If she can’t, then Kavanaugh deserves his place on the Court.

    I give this the same standard I gave Bill Clinton regarding Juanita Broderick:

    The accuser is making serious allegations, but inconsistencies make the truth of the matter at best murky. I don’t believe this is enough to justify sinking Kavanaugh barring significantly greater credibility to the story than has surfaced.

  909. lisab says:

    every gop nominee from now on will be accused the same way

    some incident that took place decades ago

    with no contemporaneous evidence

    and no solid facts that can be checked and disproven

  910. Wes says:

    Instinctively I say this is a partisan hit job, Hugh. I can’t claim to know though. That’s why I think Ford and Kavanaugh should both testify regarding it. I don’t expect Ford to get the better of that given the nature of the story currently.

  911. Tina says:

    They need to vote him out of committee.

    This require Flakey to vote Yes, making it 11-10.

    Then, proceed with interviewing her or meeting with her, whatever is precedent and works for everybody,

    If Chinastein refuses to make the “accuser” available, then blow her off. This gives the required week after out of committee,

  912. Wes says:

    The Dems already tried and failed to derail Clarence Thomas with these tactics, Lisa. That’s why Republicans should fight now. Anita Hill testified before a Dem Senate and couldn’t convince them to defeat Thomas’ nomination. I don’t expect a different outcome here.

  913. Tina says:

    And do it quickly.

    Grassley, Cruz, and the Utah Senator can easily rip her apart.

    Not so sure about Flakey or Sassehole.

  914. mnw says:

    928 sb “then the GOP can be rolled”

    Since she did not come forward during the hearing, it’s almost beyond belief that the GOP would even consider letting HER dictate the schedule going forward NOW.

    .

  915. dblaikie says:

    This is why it is silly to trust polls. Today with Trump Rasmussen has -1 and Gallup has him -18. Both polled 1500 but Gallup was just adults Rasmussen has a likely voter screen. Which is right. I don’t know, but if forced to pick, because of their work in 2016 and because it is likely voters, I have to go with Rasmussen. But it is just this kind of crap that makes me despise all polls and not trust any of them.

  916. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    September 17, 2018 at 1:16 pm
    Right, Robbie. We know no other Supreme Court nominee has ever survived testimony against him of sexual impropriety:

    – Is this 1991 or is this 2018?

  917. Robbie says:

    I did not say the accuser’s testimony should not be taken. I said the accuser should not be given a public hearing as Anita Hill was given. Grassley should not allow this to become a public spectacle.

  918. lisab says:

    The Dems already tried and failed to derail Clarence Thomas with these tactics, Lisa.
    —————————

    true, but thomas was black. there is already a “witness” who says it did not happen.

    and

    the #metoo movement was not alive at the time

  919. Test says:

    Where’s that crazy cow?

  920. lisab says:

    if the republicans allow kavanaugh to go down without solid evidence

    then the entire november elections could be in flux, dems will come out the gop won’t

    it could get very ugly

    (i already think the dems probably win the house and impeach trump if they do, this could make the mid-terms a disaster for the gop)

  921. Bitterlaw says:

    I wish it was 1991. I would probably still finish law school but I would also get certified and look to become a high school history/law teacher by 2000. There are 2 former lawyers in my daughter’s school. They look happy.

  922. Hugh says:

    947. I agree that’s why he will get in.

  923. Tina says:

    Josh Caplan
    @joshdcaplan
    13m
    NBC: Sen. Hatch says Kavanaugh is “honest” and “straightforward,” and he thinks woman who has brought accusation is “mixed up.”
    View details ·

  924. lisab says:

    ” I would probably still finish law school but I would also get certified and look to become a high school history/law teacher by 2000. ”

    a HUGE percentage of teachers quit

    it is doubtful you would still be teaching

  925. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab – The teachers with 20 years service make more than $100k for their September to June jobs and retire before they are 60. I will never be able to retire. I think I could have done it. Too late teach now.

  926. Tina says:

    A commentator at another site sys there are now three more accusers being present on Madcows program.

  927. Todd McCain says:

    GOP waited way too long on his nomination; they should have voted him out of committee a week ago..

  928. Todd McCain says:

    If that is true, this guy is toast.

  929. Hugh says:

    Whose mad cow

  930. Tina says:

    Maddow, Rachel.

  931. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #953
    Link!
    There is nothing on Maddow’s twitter account.

  932. DW says:

    Updated Dashboard based on polling gap:

    Paladin Dashboard Sorted by Polls
    ——————————————————-
    C Dist | R/D | Recent Polling | Gap
    ——————————————————-
    OK_05 – R – 49/35 (Vcreek) | 14
    NY_24 – R – 54/39 (Siena) | 14
    MN_01* – D – 47/33 (Harper) | 11
    UT_04 – R – 48/38 (Lighthouse) | 49/46 (Dan Jones) | 51/42 (Y2) | 10
    NM_02* – R – 49/35 (Carroll) | 48/41 (Res.&Poll.) | 10
    MO_02 – R – 51/40 (Rem.) | 9
    PA_16 – R – 50/44 (D-Int) | 9
    AR_02 – R – 47/42 (PPP-D) | 50/41 (Hendrix) | 9
    TX_23 – R – 44/43 (PPP-D) | (49/40 (Siena) | 9
    IA_04 – – 41/31 (Emerson) |43/37 (D-Int) | 8
    VA_07 – R – 48/39 (Siena) | 8
    IA_03 – R – 47/31 (Emerson) | 43/46 (D-Int) | 8
    SC_01 – R – 49/42 (PPP-D) | 7
    FL_25 – R – 46/39 (St. Pete) | 7
    MI_07 – R – 41/37 (DCCC-D) | 7
    FL_16 – R – 49/37 (PPP-D) | 48/44 (D-Int) | 7
    PA_01 – R – 49/42 | 7
    FL_26 – R – 48/41 (DCCC-D) | 7
    IL_12 – R – 44/39 (PPP-D) |44/37 (Siena) | 7
    TX_31 – R – 46/40 (PPP-D) | 6
    TX_21* – R – 33/27 (Chg Res.) | 6
    WA_05 – R – 44/38 (elway) | 6
    WI_01* – R – 50/44 (Siena) | 6
    VA_02 – R – 48/42 (PPP-D) | 6
    MI_08 – R – 45/39 (Target Ins) | 6
    WA_08* – R – 51/45 (GBA) | 6
    CA_22 – R – 48/43 (Tulchin-D) | 5
    WA_03 – R – 42/37 (Lake R.) | 5
    GA_06* – R – 49/47 (D-Inc) | 5
    NC_13 – R – 40/35 (Civitas) | 5
    WV_03* – R – 41/43 (Monm.) |48/37 (Siena) | 31/36 (Emerson) | 5
    TX_07 – R – 47/45 (D-Int.) | 5
    CA_39* – R – 45/43 (DCCC-D) | 5
    AK_01 – – 40/36 (Lake Res.) | 4
    MI_06 – R – 49/44 (GSG-D) |45/41 (PPP-D) | 4
    IL_14 – R – 45/41 (PPP-D) | 4
    OH_12 – R – 48/44 (PPP-D) | 47/46 (D-Int) | 4
    ME_02 – R – 40/39 (D-Int) | 4
    FL_15* – R – 47/48 (Dem. Corp-D) | 3
    FL_06* – R – 47/46 (D-Int) | 3
    CA_50 – R – 47/39 (SUSA) | 46/46 (Tulchin-D) | 3
    IL_13 – R – 45/42 (PPP-D) | 3
    CA_10 – R – 48/48 (GHY-D) | 3
    TX_32 – R – 47/45 (GBA) | 2
    IL_06 – R – 44/37 (Victory Res.) | 39/40 (Siena) | 2
    NC_09* – R – 43/44 (D-Int) | 2
    GA_07 – R – 44/46 (Tulchin-D) | 1
    NC_02 – R – 44/45 (GQR-D) | 43/44 (SUSA) | 1
    OH_01 – R – 43/42 (PPP-D) | 44/46 (D-Int) | 1
    NJ_03 – R – 41/40 (Monm.) | 45/47 (D-Int) | 1
    NJ_07 – R – 45/47 (GQR-D) | 1
    NY_19 – R – 49/44 (IMGE) |45/40 (Siena) | 43/45 (Monmouth) | 1
    MN_08* – D – 43/42 (Siena) | 1
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    KY_06 – R – 49/45 (FLA-R) |48/43 Siena |43/50 (D-Int) | 1
    KS_03 – R – 43/46 (GSG-D) | 0
    CA_45 – R – 45/44 (D-Int) | 46/49 (D-Int) | 0
    CA_25 – R – 47/47 (IMGE) | 0
    CA_49* – R – 46/43 (R-Int) | 0
    NJ_05 – D – 39/36 (R-Int) | 0
    FL_07 – D – 46/47 (St. Pete) | -1
    KS_02* – R – 34/39 (Mellman-D) | -2
    NY_22 – R – 44/46 (Siena) | -2
    MN_02 – R – 43/42 (PPP-D) |46/45 (R-Int) | -2
    NJ_11* – R – 38/40 (Monmouth) | -2
    PA_07* – R – 45/47 (Monmouth) | -2
    MI_11* – R – 42/45 (PPP-D) | -3
    NV_04* – D – 41/41 (R-Int) | -3
    CA_24 – D – 46/47 (Olive Tree St.) | -4
    IA_01 – R – 41/43 (D Int.) | 38/43 (Emerson) | -5
    NJ_02* – R – 39/44 (PPP-D) | -5
    MT_01 – R – 43/49 (Gravis) | -6
    CA_48 – R – 45/47 (Monm.) |39/46 (Siena) | -7
    CA_07 – D – 41/50 (POS) | -9
    MN_03 – R – 43/46 (PPP-D) | 40/50 (Siena) | -10
    VA_10 – R – 39/49 (Monm.) | -10
    PA_17 – R – 39/51 (Monm.) | -12
    CO_06 – R – (45/45 IMGE) | 38/52 (Siena) | -14
    NY_25 – D – 31/55 (Siena) | -24

  933. Tina says:

    Could be bs, putting nothing past Madcow.

    Fwiw, looks like the Thursday vote is still on.

    Hatch just went off on the Drats.

    Looks like the two old Farts, Grassley and hatch, want to fight, while Mulah Corker and flakey want t surrender.

  934. GPO says:

    Paul Sperry? @paulsperry_ · 16m16 minutes ago

    ? More

    Paul Sperry

    BREAKING: Senate Judiciary Committee vote will be held regardless of accusation. Committee not delaying for testimony from accuser. Going ahead with vote on Thursday, bracing for well-organized protests from leftists at Hart Senate Office Building

  935. Hugh says:

    Really the lady who wrote the letter is from the class 2005. What bs is this? It’s sounds like it could be true so it must be true. I mean I don’t know either one but I can still write a letter

  936. Tina says:

    gram
    @ChadPergram
    44s
    Hatch spoke to Kavanaugh today. Hatch says Kavanaugh continued to categorically deny Ford’s allegations. Told Hatch he was not at a party like the one she describes & that Kavanaugh may be mistaking him for someone else.

    I think chad meant that she may be mistaking him…

    Yet, again, per the psychiatrist notes, four people were “involved.”

  937. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Hugh #963
    Agreed. Lots of nothing.
    Tina,where is the link and who is the commentator? A comment like yours in #953 can place me and others at HHR in cardiac arrest!

  938. lisab says:

    The teachers with 20 years service make more than $100k for their September to June jobs and retire before they are 60. I will never be able to retire.
    ——————

    you are assuming you could have got a job in your gated community

    first, you would not have had the connections to get that job when you were 21

    second, your starting salary 30 years ago would have been about 20k. it is doubtful you could have bought a house anywhere near a philly suburb as a teacher

  939. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    Trafalgar Polling has Josh Hawley(R) +3 in the 2018 Missouri Senate race. The PID is 45(R) and 33(D). Does that sound reasonable?

  940. Tina says:

    Sheeple, it is a commentator from Cth,

    I find no support of it anywhere else.

    it caused me cardiac arrest too.

  941. Hugh says:

    My sister has an in grad degree from Notre Dame law degree northwestern masters and PhD Indiana university. Teaches public school in Florida. About 70k a year. However it is Florida

  942. Tina says:

    And I meant a poster, not contributor.

  943. lisab says:

    A commentator at another site sys there are now three more accusers being present on Madcows program.
    ——————————-

    one of the new accusers is named jane wobbles and the other is named samantha corey

    both have written letters corroborating the iniitial accusers storey

  944. DW says:

    Sounds like McConnell taking Wes’ advice and calling the Dem’s bluff.

  945. mnw says:

    Sheep

    Yes, I think so. The R/D split may be a bit GOP-friendly, perhaps? Otoh, Trump won by 17+ points, so a 12-point model in favor of the GOP in an offyear election is certainly not outrageous.

    Thx. Had not seen the Trafalgar poll.

    McC was ranked the most unpopular incumbent up for reelection recently, although… Cruz.

  946. lisab says:

    My sister has an in grad degree from Notre Dame law degree northwestern masters and PhD Indiana university.
    —————–

    you get paid extra in most places for having advanced degrees. even illinois paid 10k more for a masters degree. i don’t know anyone that has a phD who is teaching, but i assume it is a similar bump in pay.

    most teachers with a doctorate would have an EdD not a phD

  947. Tina says:

    Trafalgar was accurate n 2016 presidential elections for the states of Mi and Pa.

    These two states that Trump and the Russians stole.

  948. NYCmike says:

    EVERY SINGLE REPUBLICAN nominee/candidate/staff member will have late allegations thrown at them like this. This is a set-up.

    If you think there is any possibility that this Kavanaugh is such a monster, you are the reason why the Democrats get away with this cr*p!

  949. Hugh says:

    You’re right sorry

  950. NYCmike says:

    “922. I could not disagree more. So she weaves together a more plausible story after 35 years and lots of memory loss. So what? Without a witness collaborating her story we should ruin a man’s life? what country are we in?”

    -Hugh is exactly right!

    Beyond disgusting!

    What type of idiots fall for this type of cr*p?

  951. Hugh says:

    A doctorate and it does pay her more but she only has 12 years seniority in Florida

  952. NYCmike says:

    One accuser, with some witnesses.

    Then a couple more accusers.

    Lather, rinse repeat.

    How hard is it to coach/pay that small amount of people, and be able to totally ruin a person’s reputation earned over a whole lifetime of work and dedication to their craft?!?!

    F*ck*ng criminal enterprise!

  953. NYCmike says:

    And then they have the nerve to compare anything to Franken, where there were PICTURES!!!!!!

  954. Wes says:

    If Grassley calls for Ford to testify and she refuses, then the Judiciary Committee should call for a vote and have the full Senate vote on his confirmation.

    Dems are in a bad position if they try to keep her from testifying when Grassley gives her her chance to air her allegations publicly.

  955. DW says:

    Wes, it is called put up or shut up. Calling the bluff just like you recommended.

  956. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab – I know you view teachers as the second most oppressed people on Earth (just after North Korean dissidents) but all of the teachers I know who teach in the Philadelphia suburbs have houses in the Philadelphia suburbs.

  957. mnw says:

    It must be made clear that the GOP senators gave her a chance to tell her story under oath, in the normal way that such things are handled, & she declined.

    Can NOT let this turn into, “They refused to even give her a hearing!”

    I woud remind the msm at every opportunity that Schumer & Feinstein have been campaigning for a delay since LONG before this new thing.

  958. DW says:

    The Phillies were in the thick of the pennant race with the Braves, and then the jinxed Mets sent them their best hitter. Now the Phillies are battling the Nats for 2nd place and the Braves are running away with NL East.

    I warned them not to touch anything to do with the Mets but they didn’t listen.

  959. Hugh says:

    Kudos to Grassley. If there are no other women who come with something tangible this circus will end. People from her high school who sign letters who were not yet born when this was supposed to happen are not credible.

  960. lisab says:

    all of the teachers I know who teach in the Philadelphia suburbs have houses in the Philadelphia suburbs.
    —————————

    which is as it should be

    teachers should be paid a wage allowing them to live in the community in which they teach

    i just doubt you would have been able to get such a job

  961. janz says:

    From what I understand Grassley is attempting to work with Feinstein to have the 2 involved parties talk — Kanvanaugh and Ford. And, apparently is not getting anywhere with this from the aggrieved party.

    Also, the polygraph taken by Ford was administered in early August by a retired FBI agent. It consisted of someone reading her account to her and then asking her if it was true. That’s it! One question, and she supposedly passes the test.

    Furthermore, a star-crossed irony to this story is that Kavanaugh’s mother (also a judge) presided over the foreclosure of Ford’s parents home back in the 90’s.

  962. Bitterlaw says:

    Ok, lisab. You don’t think my town would hire a person with a law degree to be a high school teacher. This will be shocking to the two teachers in the district who were hired as high school teachers with law degrees.

  963. DW says:

    The Drat challenger in CA_22 released a poll today showing the Republican incumbent ahead ‘only’ 6 points. I wonder how many days of polling the drat had to wait to get one even this close?

  964. Tina says:

    Peter Doocy
    @pdoocy
    Follow
    NEW: Brett Kavanaugh will speak at 5:30pm to judiciary committee staffers with new questions about allegations of sexual misconduct, per a source familiar with the confirmation process. none of the democratic members of the committee plan to participate, per statement
    1:13 PM – 17 Sep 2018

  965. janz says:

    Perhaps one of the reasons the dems aren’t jumping at the chance to have Ford testify under oath is they feel she would be less credible, having poorer, less favorable optics, than Kavanaugh. After all, there are poor reviews of her as a professor circulating around with charges that she was intolerant of students holding any conservative POVs. Plus her whole story is so vague and blurry with detail. How could she pinpoint her answers to serious questioning.

  966. Tina says:

    FOX News’ John Roberts reported Monday afternoon that the President will issue the declassification order TODAY!

    JOHN ROBERTS: Source tells @FoxNews that @realDonaldTrump will today order the declassification of certain FISA documents @DevinNunes @TGowdySC Committees have been asking for

    This kneecaps Fuhrer Mulehead and Redactstein who may have been suspended from issuing Fisas.

  967. Wes says:

    So if committee Dems are refusing to participate when Kavanaugh is slated to speak before them, are they not being derelict in their duty?

  968. Wes says:

    VASTBLIGHTKINGCONSPIRACY
    September 17, 2018 at 5:16 pm | In reply to cer
    Alternatively, these antics will guarantee that Democrats easily take the Congress, probably with 52 Senators, after Republicans set up another circular firing squad. Proving once again that right and wrong don’t exist in American politics, only power, which the Left will always monopolize because “principled” conservatives exist only to hand it over.
    I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

    And this circular firing squad exists where?

    Mnw, can you rhetorically slap this idiot?

  969. Tina says:

    SHARE:

    menuALL NEWS
    At the request of a number of committees of Congress, and for reasons of transparency, the President has directed the Office of the Director of National Intelligence and the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to provide for the immediate declassification of the following materials: (1) pages 10-12 and 17-34 of the June 2017 application to the FISA court in the matter of Carter W. Page; (2) all FBI reports of interviews with Bruce G. Ohr prepared in connection with the Russia investigation; and (3) all FBI reports of interviews prepared in connection with all Carter Page FISA applications.

    In addition, President Donald J. Trump has directed the Department of Justice (including the FBI) to publicly release all text messages relating to the Russia investigation, without redaction, of James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr.

  970. Diamond Jim says:

    M

  971. janz says:

    #999 Tina, that’s wonderful news!!!!

  972. DW says:

    Wes, that guy on RRH you quoted should seriously take up quilting or find some similar hobby if he gets that rattled by two CNN polls and gutter politics from Dems. He obviously doesn’t have the stomach for this.

  973. Robbie says:

    Terrible decision to give this claim a public show trial.

    Phil Mattingly
    @Phil_Mattingly

    Judiciary Committee will hold a public hearing re: the Kavanaugh allegations next week, per source.

  974. lisab says:

    You don’t think my town would hire a person with a law degree to be a high school teacher.
    ——————–

    no, i don’t think they would hire you

  975. Wes says:

    No, Robbie. They’re doing exactly what they should do. Now if the Dems try to weasel out, the allegations fall apart, and Dems can’t argue Republicans are trying to bury Ford.

    You think everything is bad for the GOP because JEB! lost the primaries. Giving Ford a chance to testify publicly is the only way to resolve this satisfactorily.

  976. lisab says:

    hawaiian judge orders all fisa materials classified because it is “inciteful speech”

  977. dblaikie says:

    I agree with Rush Limbaugh who is correct far more than he is wrong, the Dems. don’t want her to testify publicly. She is not a nice person.

  978. Tina says:

    23m
    Please be patient while I look up an appropriate Bible verse for how screwed I am

    James Comey parody account

  979. Hugh says:

    This nonsense with these quotes has got to stop. The supreme court needs to shut it all down.

  980. Tina says:

    James Comay James Comay
    @FiredFBIBoss
    24m
    Wait no one said Trump could release the texts I sent at work! I do not consent!

  981. Tina says:

    Cn and n melting down about the releases.

    Wonder why?

  982. Bitterlaw says:

    lisab is truly amazing. Not only is she an expert on all things, she also knows that my school district would not hire me. She gives no reason.

  983. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    September 17, 2018 at 6:11 pm
    No, Robbie. They’re doing exactly what they should do. Now if the Dems try to weasel out, the allegations fall apart, and Dems can’t argue Republicans are trying to bury Ford.
    You think everything is bad for the GOP because JEB! lost the primaries. Giving Ford a chance to testify publicly is the only way to resolve this satisfactorily.

    – Ah, yes. The “but Jeb” defense. So smart.

    You can bet your @ss the press and much of the public will find the accuser’s story believable simply because she is making it in public. The video is always far more impactful than words on a piece of paper. It will be a political show trial.

    And if Kavanaugh’s confirmation goes down in flames (which is the most likely outcome right now), it will demoralize the Republican party just ahead of an already difficult election.

    And if Kavanaugh withdraws, then what? Do you really think Republicans will try and muscle through another pick in a lame duck session after they may have lost control of the chamber? I can already hear Corker, Flake, Collins, and Murkowski throwing cold water on that now.

  984. Messy says:

    1003. The New York Times says Monday.

  985. Wes says:

    You’ve been declaring the GOP to be doomed ever since Trump beat JEB!, Robbie. Why stop now?

    There’s this thing called the Sixth Amendment, which gives everyone the right to face his accusers. Kavanaugh has that right too. It didn’t just cease applying to him when Trump nominated him.

    Obviously the Dems don’t share your optimism about how well Ford will do since it is they trying to keep her from testifying while Republicans are trying to give her a chance to air things publicly.

    Grassley has a perfect win streak going back to the Ford Administration. He knows a thing or two about politics. I’ll trust his instincts, bolstered by Dem attempts to avoid having Ford testify, over the routinely failed analysis of a disgruntled JEB! worshiper any day.

  986. Phil says:

    What difference does it make if there is a public hearing, Robbie? You’ve already thrown in the towel in any event. You stayed strong until about mid afternoon yesterday – about three hours – which IS an improvement for you.

  987. Hugh says:

    Darn autocorrect I meant judges not quotes

  988. Messy says:

    999, 1001. It is, but not for the reasons you think. Comey et al will be exonerated as the redacted documents have already proved.

  989. Tina says:

    Lol, Phil.

    Best post of the day. Time for Rottie to tag in the Clinton Groupie.

  990. Wes says:

    I’m sorry. Counting his time in the State Legislature, Grassley has a perfect win strike going back to the second worst year for the national GOP—1958–since the Great Depression.

    He might know a few things about winning.

  991. Wes says:

    Grassley has been winning consistently since 1958.

    Robbie can’t get over the fact that JEB! lost.

    Whose political instincts are likely better?

    Hm.

  992. Tina says:

    And Grassley has Hatch, who helped significantly in the Attempted lynching of Clarence Thomas.

  993. janz says:

    So, where do the Kavanaugh hearings go from here? News is mixed up with speculation making it difficult to know where Kavanaugh stands. Is the vote going on as planned because Ford seems to be shying away from publicly testifying? It’s unfortunate that everything the Dems are involved in always seem to turn into helpless disarray.

  994. Tina says:

    @ChadPergram
    17m
    Judiciary Cmte plans hrng w/Kavanaugh/Ford on Sept 24. am Monday. Open session. Note the committee says it wants to hear from Ford but does not confirm her appearance

    Wes, see above…

  995. Tina says:

    They vote out of committee Thursday.

    Have the re hearing Minday and could vote a week from the Thursaay vote out of committee.

    This is fluid though,

  996. Wes says:

    If Ford doesn’t appear, then the Committee gave her her chance, Tina. She elected to forego the invitation . At that point, Grassley should declare the matter settled and proceed with a vote.

  997. Greymarch says:

    Unreal. The committee isnt voting Thursday. So when the dems put forward several more women lying about the horrible things teenager Kavanaugh did to them, will each of them get a hearing too? Dems already have other women appearing on the MSNBC pundit shows claiming teenager Kavanaugh did unspeakable things to them. You cave once, you have to just keep caving over and over again, for every nominee you put forward. Trump’s a shmuck for not offering 110% support for Kavanaugh. https://www.wsj.com/articles/christine-blasey-ford-brett-kavanaughs-accuser-willing-to-testify-before-senate-committee-1537188729?mod=e2tw

    The dems learned their lesson on tactics back with Anita Hill…they didnt dig up enough false victims to ruin Clarence Thomas. Dems wont make that same mistake again.

  998. Wes says:

    Grassley knows what he’s doing. He’s been here before.

  999. Tina says:

    Exactly, Wes,

  1000. dblaikie says:

    I will say it again, I don’t think in the end that they want her to testify. She is no Anita Hill who came across as sweet as the day is long. She has huge holes in her story. The best thing that could happen is to put her under oath and in a respectful way make explain her parents foreclosure, her political activities, but most of all give a credible explanation for the holes in her story. I believe when you compare in an open forum, under oath, Ford and Kavanaugh there will be no contest.

  1001. Tina says:

    @ChadPergram
    29m
    Schiff on FISA release: With respect to some of these materials, I have been previously informed by the FBI and Justice Department that they would consider their release a red line that must not be crossed as they may compromise sources and methods.

    The Russian stooge is crying.

  1002. Messy says:

    No, Tina, Putin, the Russian mob and the FSB are toasting each other with vodka, after their stooge just declassified vital secrets.

  1003. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    September 17, 2018 at 6:34 pm
    You’ve been declaring the GOP to be doomed ever since Trump beat JEB!, Robbie. Why stop now?
    There’s this thing called the Sixth Amendment, which gives everyone the right to face his accusers. Kavanaugh has that right too. It didn’t just cease applying to him when Trump nominated him.

    – First, f@ck off with this Jeb nonsense.

    Second, this isn’t a court of law. There’s no Sixth Amendment guarantee in a Senate hearing.

    – Third, it’s still not 1970.

  1004. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 17, 2018 at 6:34 pm
    What difference does it make if there is a public hearing, Robbie? You’ve already thrown in the towel in any event. You stayed strong until about mid afternoon yesterday – about three hours – which IS an improvement for you.

    – If polling shows the public finds the accuser credible (and it will), do you really think Collins, Murkowski, and Flake will vote yes? I don’t.

    And more importantly, why should some random person who makes a claim about an event that may or may not have happened 36 years ago get the chance to have a public hearing in front of the Senate?

  1005. lisab says:

    yes, i do not think they would hire you

    do we not remember the number of times you have said you wanted to die?

    suicidal thoughts are not a good quality in a teacher

  1006. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    September 17, 2018 at 6:52 pm
    If Ford doesn’t appear, then the Committee gave her her chance, Tina. She elected to forego the invitation . At that point, Grassley should declare the matter settled and proceed with a vote.

    – Do you think this woman is going to pass up the chance to sink a SCOTUS nomination and become liberal hero? I don’t.

  1007. Tina says:

    STEALTH JEFF
    @drawandstrike
    6m
    Replying to @JesseKellyDC
    When she says she was assaulted in an undetermined house in an undetermined town at an undertermined calendar date in an undetermined year in front of an undetermined # of people anybody who says “I totally believe her story!” is a moron.

  1008. Messy says:

    1031. She already said she’d testify. The Dems say they want her to testify. A hearing for that purpose is scheduled for Monday.

    The Democrats know that Ms. Ford’s not testifying would be a disaster, so why speculate as to why and how the Dems would WANT such a thing?

  1009. lisab says:

    every dem senator wil say she was credible

    every hollywood actor who speaks out will say she was credible

    every cnn and msnbc host will say she was credible

    the nytimes and washington post will both have front page headlines saying something that makes kavanaugh look bad

  1010. Phil says:

    1036 Again, Robbie, you are worried about what affect a hearing will have on the votes of Flake, Corker, Murkowski, and Collins? You’ve already said the nomination is hopeless. I presume that means they’re already voting no? What’s the difference?

  1011. Robbottie says:

    I am just concerned, okay?

  1012. Tina says:

    The Jebots will say she is credible.

  1013. Wes says:

    How’d that blame the GOP was going to get for the shutdown work out for you, Robbie? How about the Hillary and Ross victories here in NC?

  1014. Wes says:

    Then why are Dems equivocating on having her testify sans an “investigation”—which will conveniently push things past the election—Mr. Ebola?

  1015. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Doj and Fib comply with presidents order to release documents Unredacted.

    The illegal Fisa warrant on page is likely first,

    There are just too many emails involving the coup plotters, comedy, McCabe, etc.

  1016. lisab says:

    i predicted that the dems were all in on stopping kavanaugh

  1017. GPO says:

    John R Parkinson??Verified account? @jparkABC

    Follow Follow @jparkABC

    .@SenBobCorker tells me he does not have any outstanding questions for Judge Brett Kavanaugh: “I’ve been impressed with all that I’ve heard about him and again it’s unfortunate. I mean I can’t imagine the horror of being accused of something like this.”

  1018. SusyQue says:

    This woman’s relative works for Fusion. She is a Democratic party hack. She is paid by George Soros and ooo. She takes orders from the Clintons. This is a sham done by obstructionists to make the handsome Brett Kavanugh look bad.

    May God bless Brett Kavanugh and Donald J. Trump! I stand with President Trump!

  1019. SusyQue says:

    Will the Tramp even show up knowing that she will be under oath, Lying to the media is a little different than Lying under oath. Then send her to prison for perjury!

  1020. SusyQue says:

    Martha G. Kavanaugh, the mother of Brett Kavanaugh was a Maryland district judge in 1996. In an amazing coincidence, Martha Kavanaugh was the judge in a foreclosure case in which Christine Blasey-Ford’s parents were the defendants. Now it all becomes clear. Blasey-Ford is going after Brett Kavanaugh, not because of what he did in high school. Instead, Christine Blasey-Ford is going after Brett Kavanaugh out of spite and revenge for a case rulled on by Brett Kavanaugh mother. Martha Kavanaugh, Brett’s mother was Montgomery County Circuit Court judge from 1993 until she retired in 2001. During a 1996 foreclosure case, Martha Kavanaugh ruled against the parents of Christine Blasey-Ford in a foreclosure case.

  1021. BayernFan says:

    I think a large majority of people in this country think that the accuser is wrong or lying.

  1022. BayernFan says:

    People didn’t believe Anita Hill either in 1991. This may be more about giving red state senate candidates some cover to vote “no”. And to gin up Dem turnout.

  1023. BayernFan says:

    The Dems will refer to her as “Professor Ford”.

  1024. Tina says:

    The “accuser” cannot get her facts straight (and neither can her attorney)

    https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2018/09/17/significant-discrepancy-christine-blasey-fords-story-literally-doesnt-add-up/

    It is also not up to the fib to investigate this since it is not a Federal crime,

  1025. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 17, 2018 at 7:23 pm
    1036 Again, Robbie, you are worried about what affect a hearing will have on the votes of Flake, Corker, Murkowski, and Collins? You’ve already said the nomination is hopeless. I presume that means they’re already voting no? What’s the difference?

    – What I’m upset about is this is about control of the Supreme Court. If Kavanaugh goes down, I see no way Trump will then be able to nominate another person and have it acted on before Congress adjourns in December. And if Democrats somehow win the Senate, that seat sits vacant until 2021.

  1026. BayernFan says:

    Dems arent winning the Senate. C’mon.

  1027. GPO says:

    call me crazy- I say she winds up not testifying

  1028. bio mom says:

    If Cavanaugh goes down the poor man could also lose his current slot on the D.C. circuit court despite a flawless record. This is not just power politics. The MeToo stuff is dangerous. I feel unbearably sad for his family no matter how this shakes out. Parents of boys, be very scared. Someone could come after them and it will be guilty without evidence, just based on an accusation. Remember the Duke lacrosse player scandal.

  1029. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – I disagree. If the GOP loses the Senate, Trump would just nominate a lib. Why not? Trump is an opportunist.

  1030. Robbottie says:

    This is all very distressing.

  1031. Bitterlaw says:

    My wife does not believe the accuser and thinks it is politically motivated. I find this significant because 2016 was the first time she did not vote for a Republican for President. She was so disgusted by Trump as a person and Hillary as a politician she left that race blank.

  1032. Bitterlaw says:

    The GM who traded Khalil Mack to the Bears should be fired. He is a monster. If Lawrence Taylor and Reggie White could have had a child it would be Mack.

  1033. Ron N says:

    I just question random 15 yrs old girl shows up in bathing suit that to my knowledge of two guys identified did not know her. To me I don’t know if it true or not but it just seems odd. How’d she get there just too many question so after she just ran home.

  1034. Tina says:

    Well amoral scumbag, flakey says he will not vote for Kavanaugh,

    It appears that Mullah Corker is now again behind Kavanaugh, at least for the moment.

  1035. Tina says:

    Well the therapist said 4 guys.

    She can remember wearing a bathing suit, but has no other details,

    Now her lawyah says it was four guys and another girl.

  1036. GPO says:

    Tina says:

    September 17, 2018 at 9:30 pm

    Well amoral scumbag, flakey says he will not vote for Kavanaugh,

    Where did u see that?

  1037. lisab says:

    “The Dems will refer to her as “Professor Ford”.”

    i will gues “Dr. Ford”

  1038. Tina says:

    Gpo, sorry, he would not vote for him without Monday’s hearing, which should have been set for Wednesday.

    Grassley messed up.

  1039. Tina says:

    Russian Sooge and Jebot Drone, Schiff for Brains, wants to try to halt trump from declassifying Fisa and texts.

    Good luck with that Schiff for Brains,

  1040. GPO says:

    Tina says:

    September 17, 2018 at 9:38 pm

    Gpo, sorry, he would not vote for him without Monday’s hearing, which should have been set for Wednesday.

    You are going to give me a heart attack! 🙂

  1041. Tina says:

    No, I called flakey an amoral scumbag.

    Try to follow along.

  1042. Tina says:

    Surely, do nuffin Jeff Sessions is not un recusing himself?

  1043. Bitterlaw says:

    Flake supports a delay in the vote. Trump supports a delay in the vote.

    Try to keep up, Tina. Too many lemoncellos tonight?

  1044. ReadyFirst says:

    If Ford doesn’t want to testify, and is squishy, then why did she have a polygraph back in August in preparation for her role as a monkey wrench?

  1045. Tina says:

    The polygraph was done by an ex fib stooge too.

    Comedy?

  1046. Tina says:

    Flake is what he is, Bl, a losah and an amoral scumbag.

  1047. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump and Flake support the same think but Tina only condemns Flake. Typical.

  1048. Bitterlaw says:

    Thing.

  1049. ReadyFirst says:

    It was a one question polygraph too btw I’ve read. Completely insufficient. Guess democrats will need to impeach Kavanaugh from the dc circuit if the nomination doesn’t go through.

  1050. ReadyFirst says:

    Green Bay should have signed Kahli Mack instead of the bears.

  1051. ReadyFirst says:

    I was surprised today by Trumps statement Bitter. What bothers me about this is there was all the time in the world to bring this up during the hearings but Dems chose not to.

  1052. Tina says:

    Trump can only nominate. He has no role in this sheot show.

    It lies with the senate and amoral scumbag,

  1053. NYCmike says:

    Patience is a virtue because it is hard.

    I was mistaken earlier, in my responses, as I allowed my anger to be expressed verbally/in writing.

    This too shall pass. Kavanaugh will need to work a bit harder to show these Democrats, and the hacks they surround themselves with, how disgusting this behavior is, and he will be confirmed.

  1054. Tina says:

    Seems like the committee vote is next wed.

  1055. Tina says:

    This per Goober.

  1056. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump gets a free pass from Tina. Got it. If this had happened during GWB’s Presidency and Bush had said he supported delaying the vote, Tina would have howled.

  1057. Tina says:

    No, I only howled when he nominated Harriet Rino.

  1058. ReadyFirst says:

    I believe it’s a mistake to delay the vote but it is what it is. Everything happens for a reason and sunlight can be a great disinfectant. Let Ford testify. Hope Collins doesn’t get weak knees.

  1059. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina deflects and dodges almost as well as lisab. Good work, Free Pass Tina.

    They should have stayed with the Thursday vote.

  1060. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Oddly enough, when Tina responds, she usually says exactly what I am thinking she will say.

    You seem to have a very different interpretation of her remarks……or Tina and I are interacting on a galactic brainwave?!?!

    Ooh La La!

    Eat your heart out, mnw!

  1061. Tina says:

    Kurt Schlichter
    @KurtSchlichter
    Follow
    I’m actually pleased by the relatively small number of submissive conservative catamites who presented the minute the liberals pulled their Kavanagh scam. Oh, there still are some, but fewer than before, and we are purging their bitch asses. Ahoy. ????????????
    7:09 PM – 17 Sep 2018

  1062. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – You also go out of your way to defend Trump. No shock that you and Tina are handing out free passes to him tonight.

  1063. Tina says:

    Bl, absent the hearing (set for Monday), Amroal Scumbag would be a no vote for getting out of committee.

    assuming no other defections, it’s a 10-10 tie.

    The nominee could still advance.

    However, if flakey defectts and say mullah CORKER, THEN WE LOSE,

  1064. Tina says:

    So, Thursday vote could have remained, if they could have scheduled her for tomorrow or Wednesday, I think you and ?I could agree on that

    If Bl were smarter, he should have acknowledged that I did not give trump a free pass. I said a Barrett pick would not have had these issues,

    We also would have gotten Drats attacking a woman and a Catholic,

    The Drats would be going to their kkk roots.

  1065. Tina says:

    And bl, could have been the blog star here, for wanting Barrett in the first place.

    With that said, good night.

    If the Fisa # 4 And emails are released tomorrow, I will be awol for a bit.

  1066. Paul says:

    Time to withdraw Kavanaugh. And nominate Hardiman.
    🙂

  1067. Wes says:

    Cute, Paul.

  1068. NYCmike says:

    It is an absolutely disgusting shame if this ploy is allowed to stand.

    But, I’ll say this: Robbie is very consistent – he is ready to sell out on Kavanaugh already.

    NO FIGHT whatsoever!

  1069. Robbottie says:

    Kavanaugh was a slam dunk until he wasn’t.

  1070. NYCmike says:

    https://nypost.com/2018/09/17/more-than-200-schoolmates-rally-around-kavanaughs-accuser/

    -If Murk, Collins, Flake and Corker fall for this crap, something needs to be done.

    This is an absolute travesty.

  1071. Hugh says:

    So what happened to the talk about additional accusers coming out tonight and msmbc. If there are no additional accusers then he will get confirmed.

  1072. NYCmike says:

    Hugh,

    ANYONE can accuse! FOR ANY REASON, maybe something like…..”Hey, I am a political tool, let’s derail this nomination by making accusation which can’t be proven, or disproven!”

    If that is the test, we lose!

  1073. Wes says:

    James has an internal saying Stabenow leads him 49-38. This was never a competitive race.

  1074. Wes says:

    When Stabenow entered Congress in 1997, the Blue Dogs asked her to join. She declined, but that the Blue Dogs would approach an unapologetic lib like her to join only proves their so-called “moderate” politics are just a facade.

  1075. Wes says:

    Although Trump carried MI in 2016, I seriously doubt he can win it again. It’s still a leftist state despite Detroi’s population decline.

  1076. Mr.Vito says:

    You would think that, at some point, these girls would have figured out not to go to these parties if this was so common.

  1077. michael corleone says:

    These Siena polls aren’t showing me a blue wave.

  1078. Bitterlaw says:

    I did want Barrett over Kavanaugh, Tina.

  1079. Bitterlaw says:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6178359/Mysterious-great-white-shark-lair-discovered-Pacific-Ocean.html

    It must be cool to have a job you like. Now we know where great white sharks do it.

  1080. Tina says:

    I did too, Bl.

  1081. Tina says:

    Lawless. He is absolutely lawless. @realDonaldTrump is the subject of an investigation. Using his power to selectively release classified information is an abuse of power. His days of unchecked abuse are numbered. Tick tock. We will just mark this as another exhibit. https://t.co/9qbxhiRY5B

    — Rep. Eric Swalwell (@RepSwalwell) September 17, 2018

    Swallow whole needs to,recognize that you cannot impeach a president for exercising his constitutional authority.

  1082. DW says:

    FL_26 – Siena poll finally complete

    Curbelo (R-Inc) 47
    Mucarsel-Powell (D) 44

    This is one of those that is just above the magic line that Dems hope to flip to make up for the ones they are losing that is just below the magic line.

  1083. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1115- DW
    Also, a new Monmouth Poll shows good news in CA CD-9. Young Kim(R) is +9.

    https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_CA_091818/

  1084. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1117
    should be Kim(R) +10(51-41). Let’s see if The Toupees move this race to the right to Likely R.

  1085. lisab says:

    cnn breaking: it’s over, new credible victim comes forward

    kavanaugh bit my breasts several times a day in 1965, says anonymous victim

    according to a shocking report from senator feinstein’s office, another victim has told the senator that kavanaugh attempted to put his mouth on her breats several times a day

  1086. Mr.Vito says:

    He also penetrated her vajayjay.

  1087. lisab says:

    He also penetrated her vajayjay.
    —————————-

    apparently only one incident of that

  1088. lisab says:

    The President has directed the FBI and DOJ to publicly release all text messages relating to the Russia investigation,

    without redaction,

    for James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, and Bruce Ohr.

  1089. lisab says:

    Rubio asks DOJ to determine if Kerry violated federal laws meeting with Iranian officials

  1090. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw, Wes, DW,dk, Todd, Corleon, Marv etc
    Nate Cohn has given away THE GAME he is playing in these Congressional district polls. This is equivalent to Zogby’s “special sauce”.To wit:

    “Earlier today, a NM-2 poll had Herrell up 7 points, 48-41.
    We’ll see what we have in the end.
    But they only polled 2016/2014 voters. We also have Herrell up 7 among those voters, but we think Torres-Small is up 15 among people who didn’t vote in one of those two races”

    Say What? He shows the Democrat one point in front in the Siena Poll. In order to get there based on the above data, “new and non-midterm” voters have to be a WHOPPING 36% of the sample.If my recollection is correct, “new” voters comprise about 15-20% of a voting class

    Maybe StrawDog can enlighten the wise men at RRH and also inquire from them if a D+17 PID as used in MN CD-3(Eric Paulsen’s seat) is reasonable.

  1091. DW says:

    Sheeple, you mean CA_39? If so that should have been reported with a BOOM! as that seat is only one of two ranked Tossup by everyone.

  1092. mnw says:

    Sheep 1124

    Yes, that does look like “special sauce” indeed.

    I already posted at RRH a couple of times about Paulsen. For my trouble, I was informed that, “in every election cycle, there’s always at least one incumbent who loses by double digits, so Paulsen losing by 9 points is very plausible.” I offered to sell them a bridge of their choice, if anyone actually believed that.

    I don’t really like posting at RRH, because I immediately get rocks thrown at me, but I might post again later. As the Stones sang, I want “to git muh fair share of abu-u-use.”

  1093. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1125- DW
    Yes, CA CD-39. Me Bad. I beg for your forgiveness. BOOM!!!

  1094. DW says:

    Sheeple, no problem at all…but we do take our BOOM! notices pretty seriously here. If someone puts out a BOOM that fails to qualify as one, then one can expect to get harshly criticized.

    My personal taste is one exclamation point for a poll like CA_39…BOOM!

    Then two exclamation points for something like the recent Selzer generic ballot showing Dems up only two…BOOM!!

    Then three exclamations for something that would be truly remarkable–something that changes the narrative entirely.

    We need Tina to write her definitive playbook for BOOM notices. The above is just how I see it.

  1095. Todd McCain says:

    God this Kav stuff pisses me off so much….When Schumer said he was going to throw everything they got at Kav, they meant it.

  1096. lisab says:

    When Schumer said he was going to throw everything they got at Kav, they meant it.
    —————————————–

    i don’t think it is over yet

    they will do something else i think

  1097. Bitterlaw says:

    Happy birthday to the oldest living thing on Earth – Walt!

  1098. mnw says:

    Sheep 1124

    Done, at RRH.

    Incoming in three, two, one…

  1099. dblaikie says:

    Well I see Dr. Ford has not responded yet to her invitation to testify. She may have too. But I am more convinced more than ever that Rush is right, they don’t want her in an open nationwide forum. It says volumes that she didn’t accept immediately. It says volumes that what the Dems want is a long protracted investigation about an incident where she can’t even remember the day or place 35 years ago. It is clear what they want is to stall until the midterms and not seek the truth or justice. No, the longer she doesn’t accept the invitation to speak, the worse it looks. If she doesn’t accept by 12 noon I can hardly wait to Rush make mincemeat out of this situation. However, with that in mind she may be forced to accept by noon.

  1100. dblaikie says:

    Of course, I am believing more and more that her hack lawyer’s statement that she wanted to testify was nothing more than a bluff. Sort of like her one question polygraph.

  1101. mnw says:

    Census Bureau: Hispanic household income hit record high in 2017. (That means record high EVER.) It was also up up 3.7% from the previous year, i.e., Zero’s last year in office.

  1102. DW says:

    mnw…already:

    MikeFL
    September 18, 2018 at 9:28 am | In reply to strawdog
    The conspiracy theorizing about every poll that isn’t Rasmussen is really getting tiresome. And it’s not that outlandish to think the Dems could win NM-2, they won it back in 2008 when it was open.

  1103. DW says:

    The clown at RRH compares the race to a POTUS turnout year when Obama ran the first time. Apples to oranges.

  1104. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1133- db
    I surmise that what Professor Ford objects to is testifying UNDER OATH!

  1105. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1136 &1137
    What MikeFl is doing is whining. He will not address the hard data presented by mnw..Why not?

  1106. mnw says:

    1139 sb “the hard data presented by Sheep.”

    MikeFL is not a frequent poster, btw.

  1107. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This is one exciting video by Project Veritas, which has just been released. There are thousands of worms like these in Federal agencies.

    https://www.projectveritas.com/2018/09/18/deep-state-unmasked-state-department-on-hidden-cam-resist-everything-i-have-nothing-to-lose/

  1108. DW says:

    mnw…well, one of the RRH moderators has spoken in response to you:

    “MosheM
    September 18, 2018 at 9:49 am | In reply to strawdog
    You are an idiot.”

    There’s a vote for diversity of thought for you.

  1109. mnw says:

    48/51

    RAS also reports that the enthusiasm gap has disappeared. DEMs & GOP are equally enthusiastic. (Actual numbers are behind a paywall.)

    39% more likely to vote for Senator who supports Kavanaugh; 34% less likely.

    Hard to detect the blue wave there.

    But, as I’m repeatedly informed at RRH: Rasmussen is “garbage”… despite having done very well in 2016.

    Those “worms in federal agencies” are placing their jobs in real jeopardy. I wonder if they considered how embarrassing a 2-week suspension would be… or how their household would do minus their paycheck.

  1110. mnw says:

    I have to be really careful at RRH. If I called another poster an idiot, I’d be gone.

  1111. jason says:

    Communist Pope discover maybe the media is not his friend…

    But, hey, Catholics are still onboard and Bitter is still going to Mass.

    “Pope Francis’s favorability down following sex abuse scandal: Gallup

    “Pope Francis’s favorability ratings in the United States are down more than 10 percent since last month as the Roman Catholic Church continues to deal with the fallout from sexual abuse allegations in Pennsylvania, according to a new poll.

    A Gallup Poll published Tuesday found that 53 percent of Americans view Francis favorably, down from 66 percent in August. Views of Francis among Roman Catholics, however, remain unchanged.”

  1112. jason says:

    I looks like I would last about a tenth of a nanosecond at RRH.

  1113. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    Geez, the Wise Men at RRH really have a glass jaw. The worse thing a poster can do is bruise their collective psyche! NATE COHN IS GOD!!!
    Ironically, in OGGrady’s reply trying to refute your data in a clinical way,which is fine, he underscores your point in his comparison to the Virginia races in 2013 and 2017. He says that the number of voters went from 2.2 million to 2.4 million, which is a 10% increase, not 36%.

  1114. jason says:

    Pope discover?

    Me furner, sorry, not Western Civilization.

  1115. jason says:

    39% more likely to vote for Senator who supports Kavanaugh; 34% less likely.”

    And remember, at lot of that 34% is conentrated in heavily Dem states where Dems will win anyway.

    It’s much more important to see how it plays in Montana and North Dakota.

  1116. jason says:

    I am the best 0-2 coach with a $100 million dollar contract in History.

    – Jon Gruden

  1117. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    So according to yesterday’s Senate polling in Arizona(CNN) and Minnesota(Mason-Dixon), the GOP stands as much chance as winning the MN seat as it does AZ. The polls both show the Gop candidates minus 7 pts.
    You gotta love the polling industry!

  1118. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Another unforced error by Democrats,which can be used by GOP Senate candidates in Red States.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/407169-hirono-dems-could-keep-scotus-seat-vacant-for-two-years

  1119. mnw says:

    I’m done at RRH for the day. I was banned a couple of years ago, & I’m out of alternate email addresses to use. Obviously they would love to ban me again.

    Several years back, there was a discussion about a former Miss America named Erica Herald. She filed to run against incumbent IL GOP Rep. Rodney Davis in the GOP primary. I called her a non-profane name of some sort (“airhead,” maybe?), & that was it. Violated their rules of decorum.

  1120. DW says:

    Even Daily Kos has NM_02 as Lean R. But the wise men at RRH would write it off as a flip, and call an idiot anyone who points out evidence to the contrary. And there was that other recent poll of that seat that has the Republican up 7 points.

    So Daily Kos is smarter than RRH it seems.

    I know I used this analogy before, but it bears repeating. The attitudes and perspectives of the RRH moderators remind me of the movie Bridge on the River Kwai, and Colonel Nicholson (same actor who later played Obi-Wan Kenobi), who was the British leader of his men held captive in a Japanese prison camp in Burma. He was perfectly content to just remain a loser throughout the remainder of the war, and follow the Geneva Convention even though his Japanese counterpart tore up the book in his face and threw it down.

    Nicholson seemed to thrive in his role as a defeated enemy, only wishing to prove to his captors that the British were intelligent and first rate men and able engineers who could build a better bridge. So the Japanese captors willingly let them build a quality railroad bridge over the river.

    So great was his achievement that Col. Nicholson was beaming with pride the day of the opening of the bridge–unknown to him was the fact that the Brits had sent spies in to blow up the bridge. Nicholson discovered the plot just before the explosion and exposed his British comrades to his Japanese captors…so great was the pride of his achievement. So he had become the enemy of what he claimed to espouse.

    Only after he was shot to pieces did he realize his treachery, and uttered “what have I done?” as he fell forward on the dynamite plunger to blow up his precious bridge.

    But that is where the analogy to the RRH moderators doesn’t fit. They would never recant and blow up the bridge they built for the Democrats.

  1121. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News- Kavanaugh once called 867-5309 to see if anybody answered. When a woman answered the phone, he asked “Is this Jenny” and then hung up.

  1122. Wes says:

    Bridge on the River Kwai starring Alec Guinness. Great movie.

  1123. mnw says:

    The River Kwai analogy works for me to this extent: the mods there SINCERELY believe that theirs is a true “red state” site, just as the Nicholson character believed sincerely in his own odd choices.

  1124. DW says:

    And Nicholson kept acting as though his enemy was following the rules of war as outlined in the Geneva Convention, when it was obvious they were going to do whatever despicable thing they wanted to achieve their end goals. Same with the RRH moderators. They respect the Dems, assuming them to play by a noble playbook. If this Kavanaugh attack doesn’t open their eyes, nothing will.

    Dems play to get and hold power. They don’t care what rules get violated along the way. RRH doesn’t get that.

  1125. DW says:

    Siena about to start polling IA_01

  1126. Todd McCain says:

    Apparently her lawyer is trying to make all these restrictive demands on her testimony…..

  1127. DW says:

    “Apparently her lawyer is trying to make all these restrictive demands on her testimony…”

    In other words, bluff was called and they are only holding a three of clubs, a five of diamonds, an eight of spades, a two of hearts and a ten of hearts. And now they don’t know if they should up the bet and draw, or simply fold.

  1128. dblaikie says:

    I see that 200 alumni of Dr. Ford’s highschool have written a letter to counterbalance all the support that has come out for the Judge. The big difference is that everyone who has come out in support of the Judge knew him well and personally. The 200 liberals are nothing more than “alumni” of her school. What a disgusting sham this whole thing is. Talk about a rotten smell in the air.

  1129. Wes says:

    They’re trying to destroy him and undermine his ability to defend himself, DB. They already have Robbie on their side walking around wearing his THE END IS NEAR sign.

  1130. dblaikie says:

    Wes, what a surprise that Robbie would cave?

  1131. dblaikie says:

    If this doesn’t energize the conservative majority in this county nothing will.

  1132. dblaikie says:

    I was right Rush is destroying this whole sordid episode.

  1133. Phil says:

    When has Robbie ever not told us the end is near? It’s been his daily drumbeat for the past two years 24/7.

  1134. mnw says:

    dbl 1166

    RAS today, as I posted above, says both parties are now “equally enthused” about the midterms. When I read that, I wondered if the disappearance of the ‘enthusiasm gap’ might be due to the Kavanaugh hearing freak show, & then this latest ambush.

    This assumes RAS is correct about the equal enthusiasm, of course.

  1135. Blobbie says:

    I only abandoned Kavanaugh when it became clear he has a pattern of sexual abuse. When the second woman came forward about Kavanaugh biting her nipples in 1965, it established a pattern of behavior.

    You Vichey Trumpsters have abandoned your principles to support a sexual molester like Kavanaugh.

  1136. dblaikie says:

    I think that now that we are past Labor Day people are paying more attention with this kind of stuff and I believe that it really is starting to enrage voters — who weren’t paying much attention a few weeks ago. To quote Rush, “I am dumbfounded that more Americans aren’t enraged about this.” Well, more and more of them are? Robbie aside, I believe that the Democrats and there media mouthpieces, in not understanding the electorate, have kicked the proverbial beehive. Now the only question is, and it is a big, will the Republicans not shoot themselves in the foot.

  1137. dblaikie says:

    I hate bad grammar. Of course I meant their and not “there media mouthpieces”. Sorry for the mistake.

  1138. dblaikie says:

    I mean typos are one thing, but bad grammar reveals a small mind.

  1139. DW says:

    Quinnipiac says Cruz ahead by 9 point–trolls hardest hit by the news.

  1140. ReadyFirst says:

    mnw, It’s what I and lots others said the day after the august primaries. The turnout numbers were up, almost equally for both sides.