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Dems Lead US Senate Races in AZ, TN, NV, WV, GOP Leads in MO

CNN apparently released a couple new US Senate polls for Tennessee and Arizona that show Democrats up in both by the mid-single digits.

US SENATE – ARIZONA (CNN)
Kyrsten Sinema (D) 50%
Martha McSally (R) 43%

US SENATE – TENNESSEE (CNN)
Phil Bredesen (D) 50%
Marsha Blackburn (R) 45%

Both polls were done September 11-15 among likely voters. Meanwhile, Gravis Marketing has a third Republican-held seat showing a Democrat in the lead in the state of Nevada.

US SENATE – NEVADA (Gravis)
Jacky Rosen (R) 47%
Dean Heller (R-inc) 45%

This poll was done September 11-12 among 700 likely voters. One of hte GOP hopes for a pick up was in West Virginia, but that is looking more and more unlikely according to Emerson College.

US SENATE – WEST VIRGINIA (Emerson)
Joe Manchin (D-inc) 45%
Patrick Morrisey (R) 33%

This poll was done September 13-15 among 825 likely voters. One bright spot for Republicans, a new poll from Trafalgar Group shows a potential pick up in Missouri.

US SENATE – MISSOURI (Trafalgar)
Josh Hawley (R) 47%
Claire McCaskill (D-inc) 44%

This poll was done September 11-13 among likely voters.

Tomorrow we are supposed to get a new General Election match up poll for my home state of Maryland from Goucher College.

Posted by Dave at 12:37 pm
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237 Responses to “Dems Lead US Senate Races in AZ, TN, NV, WV, GOP Leads in MO”

  1. NYCmike says:

    Drop a deuce!

  2. NYCmike says:

    I can work with these numbers.

    Full speed ahead!

  3. GPO says:

    Larry Schweikart? @LarrySchweikart · 51s51 seconds ago

    Ruh roh.

    NRCC says Barbara Comstock in VA is up in some polls. If this is true, Ds are finished. This is by far our most vulnerable non-redistricted seat

    Would explain the big spend someone here mentioned a few days ago

  4. Redmen4ever says:

    Half the polls are wrong … but which half?

  5. dblaikie says:

    Poll 101 Manchin is a well known personality. Because of that no one is torn about him. Therefore as of today his roof of support is at 46 or 47%. The rest of the undecided will break for Morrissey or they won’t vote. Upshot is that this is a very close race — if, a big if, the poll is an accurate snapshot. The same rule needs to applied with McCaskill. As of today, if you take this poll seriously, her roof is 44-46% the rest belong to Hawley. If this poll is to be believed Hawley has a healthy lead. As for the CNN polls, they aren’t worth the paper they are written on.

  6. dblaikie says:

    If posters, if you are going to take these polls seriously please remember an incumbent is never safe until they are safely over 50%. Now in Nevada , if the poll is accurate, both Heller and Rosen are well know especially in Clark County, reveal a close race with Rosen slightly ahead as of today.

  7. ReadyFirst says:

    mnw, It’s what I and lots others said the day after the august primaries. The turnout numbers were up, almost equally for both sides. No blue wave. CNN LV models aren’t worth even reading.

  8. Redmen4ever says:

    Yesterday a rescue poll from Monmouth. Today a rescue poll from Quinnipiac.

  9. mnw says:

    RF 8

    I disagree to this small extent: I think there really WAS an enthusiasm gap at one point, but I believe (& hope, full disclosure) that it has either narrowed substantially or disappeared.

    Redmen 9

    If Q’pac is rescuing Republicans now, then that would be the first time in recorded history.

    (St. John’s forever)

  10. ReadyFirst says:

    Schedule the vote then, bluff called. At this point, nobody’s mind is going to be changed. Quit dragging this out, just vote.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-court-kavanaugh/trump-court-nominees-accuser-has-not-agreed-to-testify-senator-idUSKCN1LY2E4

  11. DW says:

    VA-10: “I’m not going to cut off somebody who’s winning,” said Rep. Steve Stivers, chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee. He boasted that Comstock “will win this race,” and noted that the committee has boosted spending to help Comstock and tackle Wexton.
    And for good reason. According to the Comstock campaign, she leading in their internal polls.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/gop-speaker-ryan-go-all-in-for-barbara-comstock-in-embattled-nova-race

    And of course RRH posters are all eager to mock–they have already thrown Comstock out, and aren’t going to be embarrassed by her winning.

  12. ReadyFirst says:

    Earlier in the year there was a gap, when republicans didn’t have any of this on their minds and Dems were seething 24/7. Now, it’s after labor day. People are watching, and one party is deranged. Nice AVGO day mnw, congrats.

  13. mnw says:

    RF

    Thx. AVGO: blind pig, acorn thing.

    DW

    Moshe got his knuckles rapped.

  14. janz says:

    If the nonsense of the Kanvanaugh hearings and postponements don’t rile the opposition to the opposition, getting them to the polls to vote the dems down, nothing will.

  15. Wes says:

    I hope reports that Comstock is leading are true. I’ll gladly admit I was wrong to advocate her triage if she is genuinely competitive for reelection.

    I want to see the polls referenced before I make an assessment though.

  16. BayernFan says:

    Whu on earth would Republicans not have any women on the Judiciary Committee?

  17. Wes says:

    New WI poll:

    Baldwin up 53-42; Walker down 44-49.

    I expect Dems to go 4 of in those upper Midwestern governorships, holding MN, knocking off Walker in WI and Rauner in IL, and picking up MI, while Dewine holds OH for the GOP.

  18. mnw says:

    BF

    Fair point. You’d think they would after Clarence Thomas.

    What did you think of that CBS poll showing Braun slightly ahead? I’m very skeptical.

  19. BayernFan says:

    I think the media, Dems, and even the GOP are underestimating the sentiment of a large majority that this woman and the way this unfolded is BS.

  20. BayernFan says:

    Donnelly has been running a lot of ads saying that he works with Trump. Maybe Dem voters are non-plussed. Braun is getting hit with negative ads about his business/employee practices ala Romney.

  21. mnw says:

    Perhaps the recent Trump rally in Terre Haute helped.

  22. Wes says:

    QU has a new poll saying Cruz leads O’Rourke by nine. I never thought Beto would actually win, but this seems to indicate the race is reverting to the mean here—i e, supporting the Republican.

    If Dewhurst has won in 2012, likability would never have been an issue, and Dems wouldn’t even have been able to dream about winning a TX Senate seat.

  23. mnw says:

    As I posted a couple of days ago, Ralph Reed described DEM talk about taking out Cruz as “a crock”

    Among other things, I’ve always thought Reed was a shrewd observer.

  24. Wes says:

    A Dem internal says Scott Taylor trails by two. The caveat about internals is that they show the best case scenario for the campaign. Even so, that they were able to get such a large lead portends poorly for Taylor. He needs to campaign hard for the next several weeks.

  25. Wes says:

    Reed is a brilliant strategist. He organized GA in 2002 and converted the Peachtree State into a GOP bastion despite the Dem organizational advantage in place at the time.

  26. Wes says:

    Err, Taylor trails by eight in the Dem internal.

  27. Tina says:

    More beta.

  28. Tina says:

    Josh Cornett, Twitter, claims that Gorsuch received the same letter from the “accuser.”

    Fwiw, I do not know if true, but Cornett claims that is why Chinastein hid the letter.

  29. DW says:

    538 just cannot believe Quinnipiac would show Cruz ahead…they ‘accidently’ put Cruz in blue

    https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

  30. Tina says:

    Robert Costa
    @costareports
    Follow
    NEWS: Top Senate Republican raises sharp questions about the account of Judge Kavanaugh’s accuser. “The problem is, Dr. Ford can’t remember when it was, where it was, or how it came to be,” Sen. John Cornyn (Texas) says. “There are some gaps there that need to be filled.”
    8:20 AM – 18 Sep 2018

    Cn and n Chris. Cilizia? Finds this talk dangerous.

  31. mnw says:

    WSJ: Investors Load Up on U.S. Stocks While Growing Cautious About the Rest of the World, Survey Shows

    I don’t understand this! Tariffs! Trade war!

    cough! Trump! cough!

  32. Hugh says:

    29. Sounds fake to me. Did she live near Gorsuch also

  33. DW says:

    Cook jumped right in today to move NY_27 from Likely R to Lean R, but seems blind to the Monmouth poll showing the Republican up ten points in CA_39–nope that stays ranked Tossup.

  34. ReadyFirst says:

    “Polling is showing that educated suburban women like Trump’s policies, but not his tweets,” said Sarah Chamberlain, CEO of Republican Main Street Partnership. She believes suburban women could be won over if Trump would “put down his phone, be less negative and talk about his accomplishments.”

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2018/09/18/electorate_makeup_will_be_key_to_midterm_outcome_138090.html

  35. Mr.Vito says:

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/09/18/residents-complain-about-smell-after-157-unidentified-bodies-discovered-in-morgue-trailer-in-mexico.html

    “State and local authorities have struggled as an unprecedented number of bodies pile up from Mexico’s rising tide of violence. “

  36. Waingro says:

    I can’t really stand Flake anymore, but this is a BOOM as far as I’m concerned. Libs and concern trolls have been hoping and expecting him and Corker to blow the Kavanaugh nomination up.

    Jim Acosta
    ?Verified account @Acosta
    24m24 minutes ago

    Jim Acosta Retweeted Jim Acosta

    Flake called me to apologize for missing the interview. He said he would support GOP push to move forward with Kavanaugh nomination if Ford does not appear at hearing. “I think we’ll have to move to the markup,” he said. “I hope she does (appear). I think she needs to be heard.”

  37. Waingro says:

    Ooph. Just saw that Marquette Wisco poll. Walker is in big trouble. That will be depressing if he gets knocked off.

  38. DW says:

    “I think she needs to be heard.”

    yeah, everyone needs to see she is a clown.

  39. Tina says:

    There *aren’t* more witnesses. It’s starting to look a little like Feinstein just assumed the allegations themselves would shuttle Kavanaugh’s nomination and she’d never have to sit through an actual investigation. twitter.com/CBSEveningNews…
    View

    Yikes and The “accuser” will not return Grassleys calls and messages.

  40. Waingro says:

    The concerned folks at RRH are predicting DOOM for the GOP in the midwest for the foreseeable future.

  41. Tina says:

    Amoral scumbag does not need to be heard.

    Mr 18 %.

  42. Wes says:

    Most Governors not subject to term limits retire after two terms for the same reason Walker is struggling, Wain: Voters get tired of them after awhile.

    Governors are like the President on a smaller scale. They’re usually the most visible pols in their states. They tend to fatigue voters after awhile—even accomplished ones such as Walker—for that reason.

    There are exceptions—Terry Branstad, John Hoeven, and Rick Perry for example (though in his last two bids for office Perry began to grate on voters—but most Governors head for the exits after two terms.

    Walker probably should have followed suit or run for Senate.

  43. Mr.Vito says:

    “… If Republican Senators Jeff Flake and Bob Corker think a hearing will satisfy Mr. Schumer, they are right to retire from politics.”

    GOP Senators should understand that the political cost of defeating Mr. Kavanaugh will likely include the loss of the Senate. Democrats are already motivated to vote against Donald Trump, and if Republicans panic now their own voters will rightly be furious. They would be letting Democrats get away with the same dirty trick they tried and failed to pull off against Clarence Thomas.

    It would also be a serious injustice to a man who has by all accounts other than Ms. Ford’s led a life of respect for women and the law. Every #MeToo miscreant is a repeat offender. The accusation against Mr. Kavanaugh is behavior manifested nowhere else in his life.

    No one, including Donald Trump, needs to attack Ms. Ford. She believes what she believes. This is not he said-she said. This is a case of an alleged teenage encounter, partially recalled 30 years later without corroboration, and brought forward to ruin Mr. Kavanaugh’s reputation for partisan purposes.

    Letting an accusation that is this old, this unsubstantiated and this procedurally irregular defeat Mr. Kavanaugh would also mean weaponizing every sexual assault allegation no matter the evidence. It will tarnish the #MeToo cause with the smear of partisanship, and it will unleash even greater polarizing furies.”

  44. Wes says:

    By the way, I think Walker is hurting Vukmir by running again. He’s a lightning rod who guns up the Left. That was no problem when voters weren’t fatigued by his presence in Madison. Now that he’s struggling, he’s making Vukmir’s race that much harder.

  45. Robbottie says:

    I’m even more concerned than yesterday, but less concerned than I will be tomorrow.

  46. Tina says:

    Chris Cillizza
    @CillizzaCNN
    Follow
    No big deal: Just the president telling the FBI to ignore an allegation of sexual assault twitter.com/markknoller/st…
    9:45 AM – 18 Sep 2018

    Cnns crappola lies with this tweet.

    Presidentt made no such statement.

  47. DW says:

    I have been tracking the changes of house rankings and notice a distinct pattern. Most of them are making their changes based on large-scale ups and downs, the generic ballot in particular. But as I have said earlier, they always jump in for a round of changes when the generic ballot pushes in the Dem direct, but they never correct when it shrinks tight again.

    As to polls of individual races, they will move a ranking in the GOP direction if its something like a Safe D to Likely D. But they won’t touch it if it involves moving something Lean D to Tossup, or Tossup to Lean R. Those are off limits.

    And there is still a high degree of herding, where none of them want to look foolish being off from all the others.

    As such, this bunch is largely an echo chamber of what they want to see happen. It is why I am starting to put a lot more confidence in the dashboard sorted by actual polling, where the internals are weighted 3 points to the opposing party, and recent polls are averaged:

    Paladin Dashboard Sorted by Polls
    ——————————————————-
    C Dist | R/D | Recent Polling | Gap
    ——————————————————-
    OK_05 – R – 49/35 (Vcreek) | 14
    NY_24 – R – 54/39 (Siena) | 14
    MN_01* – D – 47/33 (Harper) | 11
    UT_04 – R – 48/38 (Lighthouse) | 49/46 (Dan Jones) | 51/42 (Y2) | 10
    NM_02* – R – 49/35 (Carroll) | 48/41 (Res.&Poll.) | 10
    CA_22 – R – 48/43 (Tulchin-D) | 50/44 (D-Int) | 9
    MO_02 – R – 51/40 (Rem.) | 9
    PA_16 – R – 50/44 (D-Int) | 9
    AR_02 – R – 47/42 (PPP-D) | 50/41 (Hendrix) | 9
    TX_23 – R – 44/43 (PPP-D) | (49/40 (Siena) | 9
    IA_04 – R – 41/31 (Emerson) |43/37 (D-Int) | 8
    VA_07 – R – 48/39 (Siena) | 8
    IA_03 – R – 47/31 (Emerson) | 43/46 (D-Int) | 8
    CA_39* – R – 45/43 (DCCC-D) | 51/41 (Monmouth) | 8
    SC_01 – R – 49/42 (PPP-D) | 7
    FL_25 – R – 46/39 (St. Pete) | 7
    MI_07 – R – 41/37 (DCCC-D) | 7
    FL_16 – R – 49/37 (PPP-D) | 48/44 (D-Int) | 7
    PA_01 – R – 49/42 | 7
    IL_12 – R – 44/39 (PPP-D) |44/37 (Siena) | 7
    TX_31 – R – 46/40 (PPP-D) | 6
    TX_21* – R – 33/27 (Chg Res.) | 6
    WA_05 – R – 44/38 (elway) | 6
    WI_01* – R – 50/44 (Siena) | 6
    VA_02 – R – 48/42 (PPP-D) | 6
    MI_08 – R – 45/39 (Target Ins) | 6
    WA_08* – R – 51/45 (GBA) | 6
    WA_03 – R – 42/37 (Lake R.) | 5
    GA_06* – R – 49/47 (D-Inc) | 5
    NC_13 – R – 40/35 (Civitas) | 5
    WV_03* – R – 41/43 (Monm.) |48/37 (Siena) | 31/36 (Emerson) | 5
    ME_02 – R – 40/39 (D-Int) | 46/40 (Siena) | 5
    TX_07 – R – 47/45 (D-Int.) | 5
    AK_01 – – 40/36 (Lake Res.) | 4
    MI_06 – R – 49/44 (GSG-D) |45/41 (PPP-D) | 4
    IL_14 – R – 45/41 (PPP-D) | 4
    OH_12 – R – 48/44 (PPP-D) | 47/46 (D-Int) | 4
    FL_26 – R – 48/41 (DCCC-D) | 47/44 (Siena) | 4
    FL_15* – R – 47/48 (Dem. Corp-D) | 3
    FL_06* – R – 47/46 (D-Int) | 3
    CA_50 – R – 47/39 (SUSA) | 46/46 (Tulchin-D) | 3
    IL_13 – R – 45/42 (PPP-D) | 3
    CA_10 – R – 48/48 (GHY-D) | 3
    TX_32 – R – 47/45 (GBA) | 2
    IL_06 – R – 44/37 (Victory Res.) | 39/40 (Siena) | 2
    NC_09* – R – 43/44 (D-Int) | 2
    GA_07 – R – 44/46 (Tulchin-D) | 1
    NC_02 – R – 44/45 (GQR-D) | 43/44 (SUSA) | 1
    OH_01 – R – 43/42 (PPP-D) | 44/46 (D-Int) | 1
    NJ_03 – R – 41/40 (Monm.) | 45/47 (D-Int) | 1
    NJ_07 – R – 45/47 (GQR-D) | 1
    NY_19 – R – 49/44 (IMGE) |45/40 (Siena) | 43/45 (Monmouth) | 1
    MN_08* – D – 43/42 (Siena) | 1
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    KS_03 – R – 43/46 (GSG-D) | 0
    CA_45 – R – 45/44 (D-Int) | 46/49 (D-Int) | 0
    CA_25 – R – 47/47 (IMGE) | 0
    CA_49* – R – 46/43 (R-Int) | 0
    NJ_05 – D – 39/36 (R-Int) | 0
    FL_07 – D – 46/47 (St. Pete) | -1
    KS_02* – R – 34/39 (Mellman-D) | -2
    NY_22 – R – 44/46 (Siena) | -2
    MN_02 – R – 43/42 (PPP-D) |46/45 (R-Int) | -2
    PA_07* – R – 45/47 (Monmouth) | -2
    NJ_11* – R – 38/40 (Monmouth) | -2
    MI_11* – R – 42/45 (PPP-D) | -3
    NV_04* – D – 41/41 (R-Int) | -3
    CA_24 – D – 46/47 (Olive Tree St.) | -4
    IA_01 – R – 41/43 (D Int.) | 38/43 (Emerson) | -5
    NJ_02* – R – 39/44 (PPP-D) | -5
    MT_01 – R – 43/49 (Gravis) | -6
    CA_48 – R – 45/47 (Monm.) |39/46 (Siena) | -7
    CA_07 – D – 41/50 (POS) | -9
    MN_03 – R – 43/46 (PPP-D) | 40/50 (Siena) | -10
    VA_10 – R – 39/49 (Monm.) | -10
    PA_17 – R – 39/51 (Monm.) | -12
    CO_06 – R – (45/45 IMGE) | 38/52 (Siena) | -14

  48. Robbottie says:

    If I had known there was vague, unsubstantiated sexual assault in Kavanaugh’s past, I would not have lobbied so hard for him.

    Now he’s toast.

  49. DW says:

    51 – no need to lampoon. He is his own parody.

  50. mnw says:

    MT SEN:

    This is funny. Tester has sent out fliers showing himself in hunting clothes, holding his trusty rifle, & talking about how he “KNOWS hunting,” etc.

    FOX News reports that Tester hasn’t had a MT hunting license in 12 years!

    Rosendale (R) has pounced on it.

    As an aside, I took my kids fishing for ONE DAY in MT & had to buy two, expensive state fishing licenses.

    About the only thing worse than a gaffe is being laughed at.

  51. Wes says:

    A new poll says Kaine leads Stewart 52-36. Basically VA Republicans flashed the voters the middle finger and are getting their comeuppance for it. I have no sympathy for your state party, DW. Sorry.

  52. Wes says:

    That and Pearl Jam may be why Rosendale is catching up to Tester, Mnw.

  53. lisab says:

    so now we have

    Robbottie
    Wobbles
    Blobby
    and
    Blobbie

  54. Wes says:

    We used to have Sobbie, Lisa.

  55. Wes says:

    Robbie really went unhinged after JEB! lost. It’s been pathetic to watch.

  56. Robbottie says:

    If Jeb had hijacked the convention in 2012, like I wanted, we would have reelected him in 2016; now we would only be debating the magnitude of increase in our majorities in both houses.

  57. hugh says:

    So here is what I think is most convincing that this did not happen. BK said he was never at that party. He did not say I don’t recall, per hatch he was emphatic. Since we know by her account there were at least 4 guys there and its unclear to me if any other women. Now when BK said I was not there versus hedging it, he clearly is not worried about others coming forward and saying he was there. We only know of the other witness, so the other two could be anybody.

  58. Mr.Vito says:

    So Hatch knows when and where this alleged party happened?

  59. Wes says:

    In one succinct sentence, an RRHer perfectly describes the VAGOP:

    ELECTION BROWN
    September 18, 2018 at 4:52 pm | In reply to Izengabe
    Most incompetent state party

  60. lisab says:

    Now when BK said I was not there versus hedging it, he clearly is not worried about others coming forward and saying he was there.
    ———————–

    i saw him there … (i want to work for cnn)

  61. Wes says:

    Well, if Kavanaugh as a 17-year-old either went to no parties or attended none in the area mentioned, then he clearly wasn’t there to try to rape Ford.

  62. Wes says:

    For the record, I find Ford to be less and less credible the longer this drags out.

  63. dblaikie says:

    I am tired of all this tiptoeing around this Dr. Ford. One of worst is Sean Hannity. Even though my opinion means little to nothing let me just say I believe that this woman is lying and engaging in a smear.

    The reason I believe this has nothing to do with politics, but everything to do with my vocation as a clergy person. In my over 30 years as a minister I have counseled with many of both sexes who had dastardly things done to them; who were abused; several who endured rape or attempted rape. In every case what happened to them was tragically clear. They had no trouble remembering where it took place. They all new the day it happened them, most of them knew the hour. The clarity of the event haunted their minds and hearts. Now we have a person who comes forward with this claim of attempted rape and she can’t remember the place or the day. If she came into my Pastor’s study for counseling and said that I would turn the session into a search for honesty and what was really behind the person making this kind of accusation.

  64. DW says:

    65 – the bluff was called. I expect Ford will slither away back into the shadows and Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

  65. Mr.Vito says:

    Fun?

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7287268/sesame-street-bert-ernie-gay-speculation-over/

    “He added: “I remember one time a preschooler [in San Francisco] turned to her mum and asked, ‘are Bert and Ernie lovers?’ and that, coming from a preschooler, was fun.”

  66. Mr.Vito says:

    The only correct adjective to describe a preschooler asking if puppets are lovers is “disturbing.”

  67. lisab says:

    dominoes pizza had a special in moscow where if you got a tattoo of dominoes pizza — on a prominent place on your body, you could get free dominoes pizza for life

    they had to end the two-month long promotion after two-days because too many people were getting tattoos

    sooooooooo … how many people here, besides robbie, would get the tattoo?

  68. Tina says:

    Yup, the bluff was called.

    Frankenstein just admitted that “she does not know how truthful the accuser is.”

  69. Wes says:

    When I was a kid I didn’t look for sexual innuendo—especially of the gay variety—in everything. I just thought Bert and Ernie were friends. I never saw them as lovers and thought the idea was overplayed when I heard indications of their putative sexuality later in life.

  70. Mr.Vito says:

    I really don’t like their pizza. I don’t want any tatoos, so that works out.

  71. Wes says:

    You can’t post 71 without a citation, Tina.

  72. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    9m
    From colleague Connor Marley. Feinstein on Ford. Says Ford “is a woman that has been, I think, profoundly impacted, on this..I can’t say that everything is truthful. I don’t know.”
    View details ·

  73. Tina says:

    I cannot say everything is truthful.

    LOL

  74. Wes says:

    If what Pergram posted is true, Ford is done. That may be why Feinstein was reluctant to release the letter.

  75. Mr.Vito says:

    Hopefully they used a rubber duckie.

    …………………..

    Rubber Duckie you’re the one
    You make bath time lots of fun
    Rubber Duckie I’m awfully fond of you

    Rubber Duckie joy of joys
    When I squeeze you, you make noise
    Rubber Duckie you’re my very best friend it’s true
    I find a little fellow who’s cute and yellow and chubby
    Rub a dub dubby

  76. DW says:

    Wes deserves credit for being the first here to argue that the GOP should call Ford’s bluff.

  77. GF says:

    I’ve been thinking that Feinstein’s hand was either forced on this i.e. it was going to be leaked, so she had to get out in front of it. I don’t make excuses for her, but differences aside, she’s always been by the book even if she was a Pinko. If she’s expressing doubts, the rug may be about to be pulled from Ms. Ford.

    WRT Bert and Ernie, let me get this straight. A writer who came to the show some fifteen years AFTER it was launched took it upon himself to hijack two characters and morph them into caricatures of his relationship, and that suddenly means that they were gay all along? What about the Bert and Ernie (who were named for two supporting characters in “It’s a Wonderful Life” – the taxi driver and the police officer) of 1969-83? Does their relationship mean nothing? I mean, even the honchos at Sesame Street insist that they are just friends; it says so in the article.

    And what kind of parent has already exposed their four year old to the concept of lovers? Clearly, that child has some concept of cohabitating partners having a sexual involvement. Stop the world, I want to get off this sh*tty bus…

  78. Wes says:

    Thanks, DW. I was criticized for that stance because I took the evenhanded approach that Ford could benefit if she could explain her story’s inconsistencies. I never believed she could, but if the alleged incident had happened she could have boosted her credibility by testifying.

    Now with all the hedging and vacillating on the part of the Dems, I expect Kavanaugh to sail through more likely than not.

    Dems threw a Hail Mary that looks likely to be caught for an interception and run back by the other team for a touchdown.

  79. DW says:

    Wes, this could be a ‘pick-six’ for the GOP. If the GOP doesn’t get angry over these sewer tactics and rush to the polls then they deserve to lose. I expect that it will boost GOP turnout, unless the Dems can bury this quickly and move on.

  80. Wes says:

    By the way, I trusted Chuck Grassley, who in 60 years and 18 elections has never lost an election and may know a little about how to overcome political odds.

    Robbie thought he was smarter than Grassley. It wasn’t the first time he was wrong.

  81. Redmen4ever says:

    My inner Trump says on Monday the Duke Lacrosse team should be in the audience.

  82. Mr.Vito says:

    Put Clarence Thomas in there, too.

  83. Hugh says:

    Vito. I am not sure what you’re saying. Let me clarify my statement. Hatch was simply saying that BK told him that he was never at that party.

  84. Mr.Vito says:

    “…he was never at that party.”

    To establish one was not at “that” party (a specific word), then they must have established the details of the event, which people here keep saying no one knows.

    I am trying to establish whether it is now known that a party occurred, and perhaps this event, but Kavanaugh wasn’t there. That would match with Hatch stating that he thought the accuser was confused.

  85. Hugh says:

    Or hatch never went to a party in that area. Or he knows this girl and never was at a party with her. He is a brilliant guy and to cite case law as he did he probably as a file cabinet memory.

  86. Hugh says:

    Ugh not hatch but bk

  87. Hugh says:

    Btw I think it’s possible she believes or partially believes what she is saying.

  88. bio mom says:

    This woman is either a set up or perhaps unstable since she is afraid to be asked questions from a man, if that is accurate. But the judge also cannot know he was not at that party if she does not say when and where such party was. Unless he never attended any parties! This is all a tactic to get past the election without a confirmation, hope they win both houses, prevent any R from going on the court, even for 2 years. My take.

  89. lisab says:

    Clearly, that child has some concept of cohabitating partners having a sexual involvement.
    ————————————————

    well … sometimes mistakes are made, doors that should have been locked are not locked …

  90. DW says:

    If someone hit me with a vague accusation like that about a party, I could absolutely deny that I was ever at such a party. I grew up on a farm, and had to work every night. There was no time for any parties of any kind.

  91. Mr.Vito says:

    “Or hatch never went to a party in that area. Or he knows this girl and never was at a party with her. He is a brilliant guy and to cite case law as he did he probably as a file cabinet memory.”

    So, then, you don’t know whether Hatch found out any specifics of the party. That would have answered the question I asked.

  92. NYCmike says:

    “If Dewhurst has won in 2012, likability would never have been an issue, and Dems wouldn’t even have been able to dream about winning a TX Senate seat.”

    -Let them dream, and spend LOTS of $$$.

    In my opinion, Cruz keeps it close so as to benefit other races where the Democrats don’t send as much money, because they are too busy in Texas.

  93. mnw says:

    lisab 56

    You left one off:

    VICHEY

    Wes

    I’ve always been impressed w/ Grassley. Reminds me of that actor in the Farmers Insurance commercials– the claims agent who is never surprised by anything.

  94. Hugh says:

    No idea. I am simply saying if bk is saying he did not attend when he might have been there he’s at great risk because she says there were at least 2 other people. I’m saying if bk is lying he would have said he had no memory of being there.

  95. Hugh says:

    She gave a neighborhood and he knows her name. That could easily be enough for someone with a great memory to know that he was not at that party.

  96. mnw says:

    Kavanaugh:

    I’ve watched POTUS long enough now to say with certainty that: Trump. Can. Not. Be. Rolled. He. Does. Not. Go. Wobbly.

    Senate GOP? Kinda the opposite.

  97. mnw says:

    Hugh 97-98

    I think you make a good point.

  98. Tina says:

    The jebots need to run to cn and n. They are discussing trumps piece.

    Stormy says it is smaller but not that small.

    The mushroom is big.

    I am sure Schiff for brains and swallow whole want pics.

  99. Wes says:

    In my opinion, Cruz keeps it close so as to benefit other races where the Democrats don’t send as much money, because they are too busy in Texas.

    No. The reality is that Cruz is an unlikable jackass benefits from the partisan lean of his state just as the equally unlikable Bob Menendez does. That’s why both are in worse positions than should be the case in their states.

  100. Tina says:

    Stealthjeff Twitter has picked up on the same “accuser” sending a letter to Gorsuch.

    Gorsuch and Kavanaugh went to the same school,

    Sources are trying to piece this together better and they are working on it.

  101. Wes says:

    Trump doesn’t back down, Mnw. He does, however, lack a sense of which fights to pick and which to leave alone. The latter skill is just as important as the former as Sun Tzu can tell you.

  102. Tina says:

    Techno Fog
    @Techno_Fog
    1h
    About that letter by Kavanaugh’s accuser. What the letter omits is extremely important. 1) No mention of saying “no” 2) Does not say she fought him off 3) Never tried to scream Serious Q. Is that strange for someone who feared she would be killed?
    View details ·

  103. mnw says:

    Wes 104

    Both can be twue!*

    * “Is it twue what they say about you people? It’s twue! It’s twue!”

  104. Wes says:

    I have to disagree with that Tweet, Tina. She says he threw her down and tried to take her clothes off. That implies lack of consent. Kavanaugh already has a strong case by claiming not to have done anything like this but claiming the woman is mistaken in her accusation as to the perpetrator.

    Arguing about the semantics of what she did or didn’t do can only hurt Kavanaugh.

  105. Tina says:

    She says she did not yell or scream, Wes.
    Pthis, despite her claim that he was trying to “kill” her.

    I think she added details from one statement to the next?

    I am really lost by 4 dudes, 2 dudes, 2 dudes and another girl, and 4 dudes and a girl.

  106. Tina says:

    *the differing statements are between her sjw attorney, herself, and the psychologist.

  107. Wes says:

    In other words, let’s not be Clintonian and accuse the accuser but focus on the strength of what Kavanaugh has already said and done to inoculate himself against the charge.

  108. Mr.Vito says:

    105 That is a really dumb tweet.

    The LAST thing the GOP should do is question those kind of details when Kavanaugh said he wasn’t even there.

  109. Wes says:

    The inconsistencies are the strong point, Tina. Arguing over whether Ford said no when she claims her attacker covered her mouth to keep her from crying out detracts from that. A woman needn’t say no to express a lack of consent.

    Let’s just not go down that Clintonian rabbit hole and split hairs over whether she claims to have said no or not.

  110. Tina says:

    IN a followed tweet, Frankenstein declares that she is credible.

    I guess the previous Chad tweet did not go over too well.

  111. Mr.Vito says:

    Because no woman that ever feared for her life was unable to scream or feared doing so would escalate the situation, right?

  112. Tina says:

    Follow
    Cruz: Dems will ban barbecue across Texas if Beto O’Rourke wins hill.cm/JzmCjta pic.twitter.com/Mh3cy9tiGk
    3:28 PM – 18 Sep 2018

    Cruz is just toying with Beta.

  113. Wes says:

    Thank you, Vito.

    I know a woman who was raped at knifepoint. She didn’t tell me she said no when confiding in me, but the fact that her assailant put a knife to her throat makes it clear she wasn’t consenting.

  114. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    21m
    Feinstein on Ford: I believe that she is credible..what we wanted was investigation carried out to look at the facts before there was a hearing..I hope people will let her be and her lawyers will let her come back and straighten this out.

    Here is the follow up tweet. The investigation before a hearing part is a lie.

  115. Mr.Vito says:

    Clearly this woman is a sl*t that sought psych help for her nymphomania rather than an assault.

    The GOP should go down that road.

    Geezus.

  116. Tina says:

    There is nothing stopping the “accuser” and her attorney from filing a complaint with the Maryland authorities.

  117. mnw says:

    I can think of almost nothing that would hurt the GOP in the midterms more than letting K go down. Talk about re-creating the enthusiasm gap. (Another poster made this same point earlier.)

    Time to act like you gotta pair, fellas. This is the Super Bowl. Think they’ll like you, or something, if you… cave?

    The danger here is that it only takes One* Great Bipartisan American Hero like McCain, to cross the aisle & Put Country Before Party.

    *one or two.

  118. Wes says:

    Kavanaugh has made a strong argument. The women who’ve worked with him bolster his credibility. The inconsistencies and lack of specifics along with waiting 29 years to say anything and not apparently mentioning Kavanaugh then hurt what Ford is saying.

    Implying she may have been consenting because she didn’t claim to have said no undercuts all of that.

  119. Wes says:

    There is probably a statute of limitations on rape and attempted rape in Maryland, Tina.

  120. lisab says:

    drudge has the headline

    FEINSTEIN FLUBS: CAN’T SAY EVERYTHING TRUTHFUL
    ————————————————

    the dems must be “all hands on deck”

    because they cannot let that become the narrative

  121. mnw says:

    Tina 119

    Statute of Limitations (SOL) ran about 35 yrs back.

  122. Mr.Vito says:

    Matthew Dowd calls Clarence Thomas a sexual predator on Twitter…

  123. Tina says:

    I read no sol in Maryland.

    Is that wrong?

  124. mnw says:

    Oh, God. Legal research assignment. Stay tuned.

  125. Tina says:

    *if a felony….

    No homework assignment for mnw. You are retired. Retirees do not work,

  126. Tina says:

    Let mr. Bl handle this one.

  127. Wes says:

    Lawyers.com says MD has no statute of limitations on rape. She can file charges, but what DA would take such a vague case without any evidence at all beyond the vague generalities of a house she doesn’t remember on a night she doesn’t remember with differing numbers of people alleged to be present and a supposed perpetrator never named until now?

  128. mnw says:

    Tina is right! Wes & I were wrong. There is no SOL for felony sex offenses in MD.

  129. mnw says:

    No prosecutor, no matter how new or congenitally stupid, would waste even 5 minutes on this.

  130. BayernFan says:

    Ford will say that she never meant this To be a public circus. She will not testify publicly but will be happy to talk to investigators.

  131. Messy says:

    “Republicans wondering why they haven’t heard from Brett Kavanaugh’s accuser about the Monday hearing they scheduled without even contacting her might find some insight in this: She and her family have been forced out of her home due to the threats she’s received. The New York Times writes of Prof. Christine Blasey Ford:

    Dr. Blasey, thrust suddenly into a spotlight that she never sought, has been inundated with vulgar email and social media messages, and even death threats, according to a person close to her, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a private matter. “From what I’ve heard you have 6 months to live, you disgusting slime,” one message said.

    Dr. Blasey, who has two teenagers, has moved out of her house, is arranging for private security for herself and her family, and is effectively in hiding, the person said. But Dr. Blasey has also been buoyed by a flood of supportive messages from friends and strangers.

    The article goes on to say, “Her worst fears are coming true.”

  132. mnw says:

    I blame Ebola.

  133. Mr.Vito says:

    All that 134 means is Feinstein is scum for putting them both in the middle of this.

    (as though Kavanaugh and his family aren’t receiving death threats)

  134. Bitterlaw says:

    Sorry I did not get the assignment, Tina. As far as no DA taking this case, I disagree. Some Democrat in MD would love to do it. There is nothing to lose. Win and you have a bright future in Dem politics. Lose? The case sucked and you tried to fight the patriarchy on behalf of a victim.

  135. Wes says:

    I call BS on that, Messy. Even if Ford did receive such threats, her lawyer has her contact information. That’s enough of a point of contact for Grassley to arrange her testimony before the committee. I have no doubt some lowbrow threats have been levied against her, but I don’t for a second believe that’s her reason for not agreeing to go before a committee in a room filled with well-armed security personnel.

    The NYT is just trying to cover for her.

    Kavanaugh has been a member of the federal judiciary for over a decade. She could have accused him then. Now she’s the focal point of a last-minute attempt by the Dems to derail Kavanaugh. She just doesn’t want to have to explain the discrepancies in her story and is using this as an excuse.

    People threatening her should be prosecuted, but I in no way believe online threats are her reason for ducking Grassley.

  136. Wes says:

    Is the DA where Ford alleges Kavanaugh attacked her a partisan liberal Dem though, Bitter, or a guy who puts his job above partisan politics or, worse (from the Dem perspective ), a Republican?

    Those are factors to take into account.

  137. Mr.Vito says:

    “I call BS on that, Messy.”

    Well, she clipped it from Daily Kos, which then goes on to say Republicans are misogynistic scum.

    Yeah, they are really concerned about death threats.

  138. Wes says:

    If the local DA isn’t a Ronnie Earle* type, then Ford likely has no chance of having charges filed?

    *Earle was a rogue Texas prosecutor who tried to derail Kay Bailey Hutchison’s 1994 re-election bid for US Senate by filing last-minute charges against her. When asked to present his case, Earle sat silent, thus effectively causing Hutchison to be acquitted and win reelection in a landslide.

  139. Tina says:

    Messy lsd, why did she or her attorney do a wp interview?

    It seems to me that Frankenstein felt that the allegation from the “accuser” would derail Kavanaugh.

  140. lisab says:

    Lisa Page reading the declassified FISA application

    http://i.imgur.com/I9OB8Or.gifv

  141. lisab says:

    “1,000,000 women per year will die in America if Kavanaugh is appointed to Justice! – Diane Feinstein

  142. lisab says:

    Breaking: Justice Ginsburg accuses former President of sexual misconduct!

    “Abraham Lincoln grabbed my ass in 1862”

  143. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt’s birthday today.
    Yeah, yet another one….

    Made me mow the lawn instead of him having to do it.
    _________________________
    He has had a good day.
    came in third at bridge today and won some money!

  144. mnw says:

    lisab

    Those are both funny!

  145. Redmen4ever says:

    Goucher College Poll: Hogan 64-17 Job Approval; horse race numbers tomorrow

    PS new Roger Williams College/Fleming poll for RI tomorrow.

  146. Tina says:

    Did Frankenstein create the “accusers letter.”

    In a fox interview, she steps, I made the letter.

    This was the same interview from the Chad tweets.

  147. Tina says:

    https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/18/lawyer-kavanaugh-accuser-not-prepared-to-testify-on-monday-before-fbi-investigation/

    Breaking, accuser “not prepared” to testify.

    Wants fib investigation.

    Toots, the fib passed on your letter for a reason.

  148. Cash Cow TM says:

    On the WV Senate race

    Bottom line is Morrisey is behind.

    Why?

    Joe is well known in WV–state legislator, WV SOS, 2 term governor, U.S. Senator….and a likeable and personable fellow.

    Yes, he flip flops and when the chips are down will be a reliable D soldier and vote with Chuck Shumer. But in WV politics, people vote for someone they personally like. Even when they disagree with their politics.

    Morrisey’s is very bright and in the past has been proven to be a hard campaigner, but his down side is that:

    –he does not have the personal charm of Joe Manchin…comes across more as a technocrat.

    –Morrisey got on the bad side of the teacher and school employees during the WV teacher strike…as AG he came forward and offered to take legal action against the strikers….

    –Morrisey is being hammered by lots of negative ads (“He is a carpetbagger from NJ”, “prior to his becoming AG, he worked for big pharma and is personally responsible for the opioid crisis in WV”, etc).

    –Morrisey campaign backed out of the first of two debates (scheduled for September) with Manchin

    I say right now Morrisey is 10 points behind.

  149. NYCmike says:

    “I say right now Morrisey is 10 points behind.”

    -Any chance, in your mind, to surpass when the votes are tallied?

  150. Cash Cow TM says:

    “I say right now Morrisey is 10 points behind.”

    “-Any chance, in your mind, to surpass when the votes are tallied?”
    *******************
    who knows in this topsy turvy political climate…
    Maybe if pictures surface of a certain candidate having his way with small goats?

  151. Mr.Vito says:

    So she won’t appear without a full FBI investigation being done? Let me guess… one that takes months.

    Time to vote.

  152. Phil says:

    Let me get this straight. She wants the FBI to investigate this…..from 35 years ago? ……….doesn’t know exactly when or where it happened? Claims there is a witness but the witness says it didn’t happen?

    Yeah, the FBI will get right on it, honey.

  153. Bitterlaw says:

    Good point, Wes. I do not know the party IDof the DA. The state attorney general could file charges but I don’t feel like lost King up their ID, either.

    Since she can’t prove any of it, maybe she could “remember” it happened in a Dem DA’s jurisdiction.

  154. Robbie says:

    Now Kavanaugh’s accuser says she won’t testify until the FBI has conducted and investigation of her claims. Yesterday, her lawyer said she would testify anytime. Newsflash to the accuser. The FBI doesn’t conduct criminal investigations into what did or didn’t happen at a high school party 36 years ago.

    As has always been the case, this late hit was always about delaying the process and potentially pushing off confirmation until Democrats potentially took over the Senate.

    It’s time to end this charade now. Call the vote for tomorrow and end this. If Republicans allow this smear effort to work, Democrats will use on every future Republican nominee.

  155. Tina says:

    Fib says no investigation,

    They passed on the letter (which may have been made by Frankenstein) and said no,again today.

  156. Mr.Vito says:

    “They passed on the letter (which may have been made by Frankenstein) and said no,again today.”

    NO MEANS NO!

  157. Tina says:

    Maybe Fuhrer Mulehead will file charges.

  158. mnw says:

    GOP Senators:

    Bite the bullet. Do it. Or lose both House & Senate in November.

    In the internals of the most recent McC/Hawley poll, it said McC loses by 1 point if she votes for K, but loses by 6 pts if she votes against. This is VERY consistent with RAS this morning saying that 39% more likely to vote for a Senator who votes for K, & 34% less likely. You would expect MO to be much more pro-K than the national sample… and so it is.

  159. Robbie says:

    Kavanaugh’s accuser calls the FBI.

    – Hello, please investigate the attempted rape of me?

    -Ok. What are the details? When and where?

    -It was 36 years ago at a high school party.

    -Ok. Where did it happen and when did it happen? Who was there?

    -I don’t remember where it happened, when it happened, or exactly how many people were there.

    -Is this a joke?

  160. Tina says:

    I am sure that “Andy” at Fib Hq can take the report.

    Opps, he gone.

    Maybe, Pete the cheat, who s reported to have tried to destroy fib records, can take the report.

    He gone too.

  161. Robbie says:

    Senator Bob Corker
    @SenBobCorker

    After learning of the allegation, Chairman @ChuckGrassley took immediate action to ensure both Dr. Ford and Judge Kavanaugh have the opportunity to be heard, in public or private. Republicans extended a hand in good faith. If we don’t hear from both sides on Monday, let’s vote

  162. Tina says:

    Tx 19 is a distinct that her thighness won by 12 in 2016.

    Muh blue wave.

  163. Mr.Vito says:

    Democrats would never try to politicize the FBI.

  164. Tina says:

    Eyebrow Truedope is under intense pressure to do a new Nafta deal.

  165. NYCmike says:

    “It’s time to end this charade now. Call the vote for tomorrow and end this. If Republicans allow this smear effort to work, Democrats will use on every future Republican nominee.”

    -THIS is my kind of echo chamber!

  166. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1042235565423448064

    Grassley says the accuser must appear Monday or we move on.

    Notice how Grassley and Hatch are not quaking like flakey the amoral scumbag.

    They are doing an alternate good cop, bad cop routine,

  167. NYCmike says:

    “If we don’t hear from both sides on Monday, let’s vote.”

    -Corker is still wrong.

    Get on the Robbie-plane, VOTE TOMORROW!

  168. Tina says:

    TELL ME I’M NOT FROM THE FUTURE: Ford’s lawyer just said this: “She is not prepared to talk with them at a hearing on Monday and can’t focus on having a hearing after receiving ‘death threats’ and ‘harassment’ in recent days.” This morning, I tweeted THIS… pic.twitter.com/bZooldbRhV
    View photo ·

    Will she submit to drug testing?

    Just asking.

  169. NYCmike says:

    “They are doing an alternate good cop, bad cop routine,”

    -OOOhhh, role-playing!

    Dirty b*st*rds!

    They must have been crazy in high school!

    Sen Feinstein: “We need an investigation!”

  170. NYCmike says:

    Tina,
    \
    That picture didn’t go thru either time.

  171. NYCmike says:

    “TELL ME I’M NOT FROM THE FUTURE:”

    -mnw told us you are from way in the past!!

  172. Wes says:

    Earlier today I analogized Ford to a Hail Mary intercepted and returned for a touchdown. It looks to be exactly that.

  173. Tina says:

    STEALTH JEFF
    @drawandstrike
    14m
    Replying to @ThomasWictor
    What is there to investigate? She can’t remember the 1) location 2) date 3) year that this alleged assault took place. Grassley is going to tell her to pound s

    2 boys, 4 boys, 4 boys and a girl.

    All conflicting statements between the accuser, the made letter of Frankenstein, the lawyah, and the shrink.

  174. Robbie says:

    This has been a well orchestrated plan by Feinstein and the accuser’s lawyer the two hatched out this Summer. Otherwise, why did the accuser take a polygraph test?

    I think the accuser’s letter is not her real position. She wants to make it seem as though this is so difficult for her and then, at the last moment, she decides to accept the unfair conditions by Grassley and testify. The media will canonize her as a Saint.

    Grassley is making a mistake by saying the offer to testify still stands. He should call her bluff now before she changes her mind and decides to show up.

    End this charade now.

  175. Wes says:

    Robbie essentially declared Kavanaugh to be DOA yesterday. I trusted Grassley to have the political instincts to maneuver through this.

    Thank God Grassley met my expectations.

  176. Mr.Vito says:

    I don’t understand why the FBI doesn’t think this isn’t a matter of national security.

    How long before some Russian connection is invented, and they call for Mueller to intervene?

  177. Tina says:

    And a horrible day for Frankenstein with her interview

    Her challenger is targeting her for “botching” thiis.

  178. NYCmike says:

    Got it now – Thanks Sock.

  179. Tina says:

    Her challenger believes she held on to the letter too long and should have released it much earlier,

    Now there are questions as to what she meant bye making the letter. It sounds like she had a baking disaster in the kitchen,

    And then her statement that the “accuser” is not telling the truth in all cases.

    Senile beotch, who I met in the 1970s.

  180. Mr.Vito says:

    Mike and DW, you can vote for who should be card numbered #1 in the set next year.

    http://2019cardno1.hscampaigns.com/#rulesprizes

    I wrote in Justin Verlander.

  181. Mr.Vito says:

    *Topps set

  182. Tina says:

    Replying to @drawandstrike
    “Trump said he had not read the documents he ordered declassified but said he expected to show they would prove the FBI case started as a political “hoax.””

    Huge problem with the Carter page Fisa warrant, With that, fib was able to tap trump tower in January of 2016, months before trump,became the nominee.

    I still believe (and my opinion) that we will find out that the obumbler kept,tabs on trump since 2011.

  183. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    September 18, 2018 at 10:43 pm
    Robbie essentially declared Kavanaugh to be DOA yesterday. I trusted Grassley to have the political instincts to maneuver through this.

    Thank God Grassley met my expectations.

    – If she testifies, his nomination will probably fail.

    I think this letter was ploy to see if they could get any Republicans to bite.

    Now that none have, I think she’ll still show up.

    He’s in better shape today, for sure, but five days is an eternity.

  184. Wes says:

    I guess Ford didn’t gin up Dems in a Hillary-won district where Dems took 59% of the vote for a former Congressman who had previously won the district.

    That’s not a good sign for them for November despite all the caterwauling at RRH about abysmal turnout.

  185. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/vjeannek/status/1042239584707534848/photo/1

    Here is the fibs response.

    They call a request to nvestigate inappropriate and state why.

    And with the purge of the Obama drones in fib, nothing will be done.

  186. Tina says:

    James Comay
    @FiredFBIBoss
    Sep 17
    Please be patient while I look up an appropriate Bible verse for how screwed I am
    View details ·

  187. Wes says:

    That’s BS, Robbie, and you goddamn well know it. If Dems really thought Ford would torpedo him by testifying, they wouldn’t be playing games with this and would be eager to see the testimony.

    She would have to tell a consistent story to take him down. That doesn’t exist, so this theater is essentially over .

  188. Phil says:

    Oh, I agree with Robbie that she’ll probably show up. She has to or Republicans including Even Flake will just insist on going ahead and have the committee vote. Game over. She and the Democrats won’t have a leg to stand on.

    Her fall back position of waiting a month or two for “the FBI to investigate” isn’t going to fly with the public BTW. The FBI doesn’t do investigations of he said she said teenage groping from 35 years ago that she never mentioned and in which she isn’t sure where or when it happened. That’s insane.

  189. Tina says:

    3h
    A new report by Cheryl Chumley in The Washington Times links the accusations against Judge Brett Kavanagh to hard left groups funded by George Soros. The article points out that the accuser’s activist lawyer is also involved with a Soros group. twitter.com/ckchumley/stat…

  190. Phil says:

    BTW, boys and girls, I see golden boy Beto is down 9 in the latest polling. Quick, Hollywood, shovel in some more money. Beto is going to romp on Election Day in Texas.

  191. Wes says:

    Supposedly Ford sent a similar letter about Gorsuch to Feinstein. If true, that completely impeached her credibility, for it shows a pattern of accusations of an unlikely nature conveniently levied against two Supreme Court nominees on the cusp of their confirmations.

  192. jason says:

    Looks like the Hail Mary is going to be batted down in the end zone.

  193. Tina says:

    Wes, I mentioned that earlier.

    If verified, it totally discredites her.

    I read that G and K went to the same school.

  194. Wobbles says:

    I am sending Beto another check.

    If he wins it will be bad for Trump.

  195. Tina says:

    Katz, the attorney, is very political. in March 2017 Katz declared via Facebook that, “These people are all miscreants. The term ‘basket of deplorables’ is far too generous a description for these people who are now Senior Trump advisors,” townhall.com/tipsheet/timot…

  196. Tina says:

    More Katz:

    5. In defending Dem Al Franken, Katz said “Context is relevant, he did not do this as a member of the U.S. Senate. He did this in his capacity of someone who was still functioning as an entertainer.” foxnews.com/politics/2018/…

  197. jason says:

    This is unreal….

    “So she’s been spending her time trying to figure out how to put her life back together, how to protect herself and her family.”

  198. BayernFan says:

    That Gorsuch angle was sarcastic. Not true.

  199. Tina says:

    Joe diGenova: This is utter nonsense. This is another delaying tactic. She really doesn’t want to testify because when she does she’s going to look like the loon that she is. She may very well believe everything that she’s saying and that is one of the signs of lunacy, believing something that isn’t real. But her lawyer is even loonier. The FBI is not going to investigate a non-federal matter of an alleged assault that is unconfirmed by even the witness herself. She’s not sure when it happened, where it happened, who else was present. She never reported it to anybody.

  200. dblaikie says:

    I said this two days ago and I repeat it now. The Democrats don’t want her to testify. Why? She will not be credible. So they are going to ride this FBI nonsense and just pray that Flake or someone else will agree.

  201. Mr.Vito says:

    “PYONGYANG, North Korea – North Korean leader Kim Jong Un agreed to permanently dismantle his main nuclear complex at Nyongbyon if the United States takes corresponding measures, South Korean President Moon Jae-in said Wednesday after the two leaders held summit talks in Pyongyang…

    The Korean leaders also said the North would dismantle a missile engine test site and launch pad in the presence of outside inspectors, and would seek to host the 2032 Summer Olympics together. Moon also said Kim would try to visit Seoul sometime this year.”

    http://www.foxnews.com/world/2018/09/18/kim-agrees-to-dismantle-main-nuke-site-if-us-takes-steps-too.html

  202. lisab says:

    the usa is not going to dismantle its nuclear complex

  203. lisab says:

    the dems will go all in on ford if they think it might work … with full cnn support

    how fast can they put together mass protests?

  204. CG says:

    As I said on Sunday, everybody needed to calm down. Unless there is something major we do not know, Kavanaugh will be confirmed.

    Each passing hour shows this a cheap, cynical, political ploy by Democrats and the left. (and those who rightly attack them for it should also reconcile the fact that they feel the need to defend a President from another party who constantly engages in cheap, cynical, political ploys and whose entire political career is built on mountains of dishonesty on matters big and small.)

    But on *this* matter, Democrats are the ones who are beclowning themselves. When all is said and done, I think it will be Jeff Flake and Bob Corker who should be considered the “heroes” of all this because they were the first ones out in front of a strategy that has exposed the Democrats on this for what it is, and despite all the initial hysteria on here about what they said, was quickly embraced and utilized by everyone on Kavanaugh’s side from the Trump White House on down.

  205. Mr.Vito says:

    “the usa is not going to dismantle its nuclear complex”

    Yeah… that’s not what they meant, though.

  206. lisab says:

    ” North Korean leader Kim Jong Un agreed to permanently dismantle his main nuclear complex at Nyongbyon if the United States takes corresponding measures,”

    what did they mean?

  207. Mr.Vito says:

    Other measures.

  208. lisab says:

    other measures like …?

  209. lisab says:

    sooooooooooo … the way i see it

    the gop cannot afford to let kavanaugh be taken out by these accusations from 35 years ago, or their voters will abandon them

    otoh, the dems cannot afford to allow kavanaugh to be seated, or the millenials will abandon the Deme

    so … what happens now?

  210. Mr.Vito says:

    “other measures like …?”

    Measures that make him believe the US is not going to kick his ass the moment he gives up his nukes.

    The probable first step would be a formal end to the Korean War, which is mentioned in the article… and some sort of good-faith draw down of the military on the peninsula.

  211. Mr.Vito says:

    I’m pretty sure you don’t need me to tell you these things… but hey, I had a few minutes to waste.

  212. MichiganGuy says:

    Flashback: Clarence Thomas responds to Anita Hill
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=ZURHD5BU1o8

  213. Bitterlaw says:

    I agree with CG. I said 2 days ago that Flake was giving Dems the means to destroy themselves by delaying the vote for Ford to testify. If she does not testify then Flake’s move succeeded.

  214. Bitterlaw says:

    Given the stakes, I think she will testify. Dems, Trump-hating Independents, and Never Trumpers will believe her. Republicans and Trump-supporting Independents will not believe her.

    I wish Kelly Ayotte was still in the Senate. She would be perfect to question Ford.

    Is it possible that something happened 35 years ago? Yes. Is it provable? Only to people who want to believe it and that is not enough to stop the confirmation of Kavanaugh.

  215. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    8h
    The Supreme Court is one of the main reasons I got elected President. I hope Republican Voters, and others, are watching, and studying, the Democrats Playbook.

  216. Tina says:

    Trump cuts the number of refugees allowed entrance into the us to 30,000. This number is down from 110,000 under the obumbler (FY 9/30/17).

  217. Tina says:

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/18/politics/pj-smyth-brett-kavanaugh/index.html

    2nd Kavanaugh classmate denies the vague claim of the “accuser.”

    He and Judge have provided statements to the committee.

  218. Hugh says:

    The only possible defector is Collins. However more than any other senator she has been harassed and threatened by the left. She strikes me as not a person who does not like to be threatened.

  219. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not believe the denials by classmates or the accusation. If you asked me if I remember a party 35 years ago, I would probably say no. That does not mean that the party did not happen or that bad things might have happened at the party. They should just vote and end this circus.

  220. Tina says:

    The letter was wrong or incomplete on a number of points. Grassley first asked to have a private phone interview with Ford. After he agreed to Democrats’ demand for a hearing, he also offered to hold it behind closed doors — no television coverage at all. In addition, there was never a committee plan to have Ford and Kavanaugh testify side-by-side. On the other hand, the lawyers were correct that some senators appear to be skeptical about Ford’s story. But it seems unreasonable for a witness to demand to appear only before lawmakers who support her, especially when she is part of an effort to bring down a Supreme Court nomination.

    Shortly after 10 p.m. Tuesday, Grassley responded to the Katz-Banks letter. He offered nothing new. “Dr. Ford’s testimony would reflect her personal knowledge and memory of events,” Grassley said. “Nothing the FBI or any other investigator does would have any bearing on what Dr. Ford tells the committee, so there is no reason for any further delay.”

    Late last night, on cn and n, the “accuser’s lawyah,” slammed the door completely on the Monday hearing.

    To be continued…

  221. Tina says:

    Those classmates were named directly or indirectly by the “accuser.”

    So, to me, they add further proof that she is lying about Kavanaugh

  222. Bitterlaw says:

    Time to vote.

  223. Tina says:

    So far though I place the great weight on the counselors notes. However, there are too many inconsistencies between her statement, her lawyer, and that counselor.

  224. Tina says:

    Yes, time to vote.

  225. Bitterlaw says:

    There are three possible reasons they are denying it happened:

    1. It did not happen.

    2. They do not remember anything happening.

    3. Something happened but they are protecting Kavanaugh/themselves.

    I suspect the correct reason is 1 or 2.

  226. lisab says:

    they both said they do not remember such a party

  227. lisab says:

    the dems cannot let the vote go forward without some kind of play now

    had they let the vote happen, they could have said, “see! see! you dems have to come out to vote so things like this don’t happen.”

    but that ship sailed, and they have upped the stakes. now if they back down it will likely hurt if not crush their chances in november … depending on how outraged the young turks get ….

    you cannot tell your supporters the guy is a rapist and then just let him get confirmed without doing something major.

    at the very least — and if they were smart — they should turn their backs (symbollicly walk out) and not vote. but they are not smart and will probably do something really stupid.

    “was it over when the republicans bombed pearl harbor?

    no … and it is not over now …

    I think this situation absolutely requires…
    a really futile and stupid gesture…
    be done on somebody’s part
    We’re just the guys to do it.”

  228. lisab says:

    they obviously cannot really walk out, because the senate would be called into session and the republicans would push through a whole bunch of judges, a quorum is only 51.

    but unless the dems totally back down, and say something totally reasonable — like, there is just no evidence at all and we cannot hold a judge up based on 35 year old accusations without evidence

    their supporters will not stand for the dem senators backing down after this letter. they will have to pound the table and accuse the republicans of supporting rapists

    and … that is a great way to get on the good side of a scotus judge who will be on the court for the next 25 years!

  229. Tina says:

    Shannon Bream Verified Account
    @ ShannonBream
    Washington, DC
    Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Bonhoeffer
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    A continuation of the good cop, bad cop by Grasley.

    Also, Hatch just unloaded on Jum Sheotto, cnn for tweeting fake news,