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Dems Lead Senate Races in AZ and TX, GOP Leads Senate Races in FL and NV

Reuters, Ipsos and the University of Virginia have released polls for a bunch of states including these four races below that show three seats flipping, Arizona, Florida and Texas.

US SENATE – ARIZONA (Reuters/Ipsos/UVA)
Kyrsten Sinema (D) 47%
Martha McSally (R) 44%

US SENATE – FLORIDA (Reuters/Ipsos/UVA)
Rick Scott (R) 46%
Bill Nelson (D-inc) 45%

US SENATE – NEVADA (Reuters/Ipsos/UVA)
Dean Heller (R-inc) 46%
Jacky Rosen (D) 43%

US SENATE – TEXAS (Reuters/Ipsos/UVA)
Beto O’Rourke (D) 47%
Ted Cruz (R-inc) 45%

These polls were done over various periods between September 5th and 14th among likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 12:25 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (1,137)

1,137 Responses to “Dems Lead Senate Races in AZ and TX, GOP Leads Senate Races in FL and NV”

  1. Wes says:

    Eh. Weird polls all around.

  2. jason says:

    Dos, cabrones!

  3. jason says:

    I think the “basis risk” for the 2 polls where Rs are ahead is correct, but not for the 2 polls that show Ds leading.

    If you don’t agree go skew yourself.

  4. jason says:

    Redmen4ever says:
    September 19, 2018 at 11:11 am

    Donna Shalala no habla espanol? Que pasa! Espanol es muy facil. Si tu quiere representar hispanics entonces tu estudian habla espanol.”

    Dang, ole Red writes Spanish better than Messy writes English.

    Who knew?

  5. Redmen4ever says:

    Stockton U. poll of NJ02 not kind to Grossman, but suggests Huggin is competitive in Senate race. The poll says Huggin is outpacing Menendez by 10 points in the district. Two years ago, Trump beat Clinton by 5 points in the district, while losing to her statewide by 14 points.

  6. Mr.Vito says:

    yougov generic

    45-41 Dem

    Definitely vote:

    Men: 74
    Women: 64

    over 45: 79
    30-44: 57
    18-29: 39

    White: 74
    NonWhite: 53

    ClintonVoter: 79
    TrumpVoter: 78

  7. lisab says:

    if rbg dies, maybe ted cruz should be the nominee

    just to drive robbie completely crazy

  8. NYCmike says:

    On an unrelated note, I just saw the picture of Wissing and his left-handed slugger on the right side of the page – STAY WELL INDEED!

    Thanks for all of the new threads, and I hope your Trump-hatred is being alleviated by that quality time with your child.

    Cheers!

  9. mnw says:

    lisab

    That one is also funny.

    Dave W.

    I too “hope your Trump-hatred is being alleviated by that quality time with your child”…and also by reading your monthly 401k statements.

  10. mnw says:

    CA Gov. Moonbeam says, “Something has to happen to this guy [Trump]– people have just got to get rid of him.”

    That is the worst assassination porn thus far, imo. And this is not some Hollywood airhead nobody ever heard of. This is an elected official.

    Anybody think that the governor is merely calling for impeachment, or to elect a DEM in 2020?

  11. Messy says:

    from the Boston Globe:

    BREAKING NEWS ALERT
    In the first public poll of the general election in Massachusetts, Governor Charlie Baker, a Republican, had a 27-point lead over his Democratic challenger, Jay Gonzalez, who remains largely unknown to two-thirds of his party’s voters.

    The survey also showed US Senator Elizabeth Warren, a Democrat, with an even larger gap over her Republican challenger, state Representative Geoff Diehl, 54 percent to 24 percent. Independent candidate Shiva Ayyadurai received 6 percent, and 16 percent said they were undecided.

  12. Mr.Vito says:

    That isn’t news to anyone.

  13. lisab says:

    how is that breaking news?

  14. lisab says:

    you best hope warren loses

    or she runs in 2020

    and loses badly

  15. Wes says:

    Warren has all the charisma of a tree stump and has been a decidedly negative force for Dems she’s campaigned for in their Senate runs. She and Kamala Harris are great fits for their states but have shown exactly no appeal to the people they would have to win over in less liberal parts of the country to get to 270.

  16. lisab says:

    worse than having no personality

    she claimed to be a native american

    how will african americans react to a nominee who claimed minority status? at least harris will be able to claim minority status with honesty.

    the dnc should be giving money to warren’s opponent

  17. Phil says:

    Warren is a wooden left wing joke and couldn’t be elected dog catcher in any national election.

    Harris on the other hand could in fact make it to 270. She is mean, nasty, and a left wing loon but will be given all the cover she asks for by the MSM.

  18. Wes says:

    Has anyone else noticed Robbie keeps spouting his masturbatory fantasy of Ford’s bringing down Kavanaugh by testifying ? Curiously he can’t explain how Ford would scuttle the nomination. He just tosses it out there and blithely expects us to bob our heads in agreement.

  19. jason says:

    Messy has inside information and will be breaking some more news tonight…stay tuned.

    Rumor has it that it will be a blockbuster: Ted Kennedy got drunk and drove a woman off a bridge and left her to die and didn’t report it.

  20. jason says:

    Has anyone else noticed Robbie keeps spouting his masturbatory fantasy of Ford’s bringing down Kavanaugh by testifying ?”

    He is hoping that happens because it “will be bad for Trump”.

    A real conservative, I tell you.

  21. Wes says:

    She still has to campaign as the Senator from the most dysfunctional state in the nation, Phil. How exactly is she going to peel off enough voters in flyover country to win?

    Going 100% anti-white and anti-man certainly didn’t get Hillary to 270 or even close to it.

    Yes, Harris positively energized the people Hillary appealed to, but she also negatively energizes the people Trump appeals to. I don’t see how Harris fares any better barring a full-bore economic collapse, which would mean Dems could beat Trump by nominating Yosemite Sam.

  22. Phil says:

    Robbie was solid behind Kavanaugh on Sunday from noon to 3 PM until he figured out that Flake’s going wobbly could be spun as somehow Trump’s fault. Give him credit for those three hours of backbone.

  23. jason says:

    ClintonVoter: 79
    TrumpVoter: 78

    Considering Hillary had about 4 million “wasted” votes in CA and 2 million in NY those might not be bad numbers for swing districts.

  24. jason says:

    Erick Erickson, no friend of Trump:

    “The Democrats would never allow a single sourced, uncorroborated 35 year old claim from high school destroy a nominee. Hell, they championed Ted Kennedy after he killed a woman. The GOP should not cave on this.”

  25. lisab says:

    this shows why cory booker will be the nominee

    “anyone who thinks it’s nothing but teeth-grinding paranoia and rank misery in Washington these days hasn’t been to the office of New Jersey senator Cory Booker. These people are happy. Indeed, his staff are some of the cheeriest, nicest people you could ever hope to meet. When I arrive on a hot, swampy morning just before Labor Day weekend, I am greeted with hugs and candy. An exuberant woman in a dashiki sits at reception. Kristin Lynch, the communications director, greets me — okay, hugs me — and takes me to Booker’s office, where we say hello to his chief of staff, Matt Klapper, who also hugs me. Booker has not hugged me yet, but give him time. A young staffer comes in and hands Booker a brown-paper bag and tells him she managed to “score the last three” in the cafeteria. From the look of joy on his face, I imagine a bag of cheeseburgers, but, alas, it’s just celery and carrot sticks in plastic deli containers. (Booker is a vegan.) He opens one up and munches on a carrot.”

  26. Wes says:

    Phil, in 2004, Kamala Harris went out of her way to avoid seeking the death penalty for a cop killer. Dianne Feinstein and the local police unions all called for the man’s execution, and Feinstein even publicly blasted Harris for refusing to seek the death penalty.

    You don’t think Trump would cagily use something like that to say Harris was aligning herself with criminals against law enforcement. Ask Dems how siding with criminals against law enforcement worked out for them in 2014.

    That’s just one example of an issue Trump can use against her. He is a wedge-issue pol and will use any opening his opponents give him to create a schism between them and potential voters.

  27. lisab says:

    GoFundMe campaign raises over $90K to cover Kavanaugh accuser’s security costs

  28. Phil says:

    Didn’t say she would have an easy time of it, Wes. She would need a lot of help from the media which would be all in for her. You saw how they handled Rev Wright for Lefty Obama and morphed the guy into some sort of left center moderate. Harris might be the most ambitious and ruthless loon ever. Yeah, Hard to be more ruthless And ambitious than Hillary – but remember, Kamala is a fresh face unlike Hillary who people had had the good fortune to watch operate for 25 years. The mask on Hillary had been ripped off for years.

  29. lisab says:

    If Collins backs Kavanaugh, $1.4m is waiting for her next opponent. That’s not bribery, it’s politics

  30. lisab says:

    In Secret Calls, Putin Cultivated Trump’s Anger at the “Deep State”

    Yet more evidence that Vladimir Putin has continued to ply President Trump with opposition to US intelligence and the so-called “deep state” during their conversations since President Trump entered the White House. Not surprising and yet stunning passage in this excerpt from Greg Miller’s new Trump book …

    Trump’s admiration for the leader of Russia was inexplicable and never wavered after taking office. He praised the Russian leader, congratulated him, defended him, pursued meetings with him, and fought virtually any policy or punitive measure that might displease him.

    A trained intelligence operative, Putin understood the power of playing to someone’s insecurities and ego. On cue, he reciprocated with frequent praise for the president he had sought to install in the White House.

    In phone conversations with Trump, Putin would whisper conspiratorially, telling the U.S. president that it wasn’t their fault that they could not consummate the relationship that each had sought. Instead, Putin sought to reinforce Trump’s belief that he was being undermined by a secret government cabal, a bureaucratic “deep state.”

    “It’s not us. We get it,” Putin would tell Trump, according to White House aides. “It’s the subordinates fighting against our friendship.”

    Why do we think President Trump insisted on a private meeting with Putin in Helsinki, with no aides present?

  31. jason says:

    Drudge Headline: 67 million don’t speak English at home”

    NYC to announce WE ARE WINNING in 3, 2, 1…..

  32. lisab says:

    Opposition to Kavanaugh grows, support at historic low: Reuters/Ipsos poll

    (Reuters) – A growing number of Americans said they opposed President Donald Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, Brett Kavanaugh, as the candidate’s confirmation hearings took place and as he fended off a sexual assault claim, a Reuters/Ipsos poll showed.

    The Sept. 11-17 poll found that 36 percent of adults surveyed did not want Kavanaugh in the Supreme Court, up 6 points from a similar poll conducted a month earlier.

    Only 31 percent of U.S. adults polled said they were in favor of Kavanaugh’s appointment.

  33. Wes says:

    This is why Cory Booker, even if nominated, will never be President. Even Mazie Hirono couldn’t take him seriously:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEp29cF4Cls

  34. Phil says:

    A poll of “adults”?

  35. mnw says:

    lisab 35

    That’s essentially the opposite of what RAS reported a couple of days ago, but then Rasmussen doesn’t poll “adults,” like Reuters/Ipsos does, either.

    Both can be twue.

  36. lisab says:

    he’s a vegan

    he is spartacus!

  37. Wes says:

    I get what you’re saying, Phil, but Obama had a perfect storm of things that got him elected:

    1) GWB at 29% popularity

    2) Lehman Brothers

    3) a lackluster campaign by McCain

    That was a year when Dems were guaranteed to win regardless of whom they or Republicans nominated. The only way Harris replicates Obama’s feat is if Trump presides over a recession and falls to GWB levels of support.

    Otherwise given her politics and baggage, I don’t see how she has a realistic shot at beating Trump.

  38. jason says:

    Some woman now says she knew of the incident, that it was talked about for days at school.

    But Ford herself says she never told anyone before 2012.

    LOL.

  39. lisab says:

    Michael Moore: Senate Must Block Trump’s Court Picks Until After ‘Treason’ Probe

  40. DW says:

    Three Generic ballots today, D+5, D+5 and D+4.

    Close, but not quite enough to take control of the house if these are correct.

  41. jason says:

    I have seen hundreds of LOU signs, not ONE Casey sign.

    If it depended on York Co. PA Barletta would be the next senator.

  42. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #42
    Also, the alleged incident occurred during the Summer when the High School was closed.
    Lots of nonsense.

  43. lisab says:

    The US looks like the 3rd wheel after North Korea and South Korea agreed to take steps toward denuclearization

  44. lisab says:

    “Cut Bait”: As the Kavanaugh nightmare escalates, Trump is gripped with uncertainty as Ivanka suggests cutting the Justice loose

  45. lisab says:

    Former Obama aide Rahm Emanuel warns Trump may order military action in Venezuela for political gain

  46. lisab says:

    Why the GOP Is Better Off Pulling Kavanaugh’s Nomination

    Having Kavanaugh go down is probably the Republican Party’s best hope for actually getting a seated Supreme Court justice.

    By EMILY BAZELON and DAVID PLOTZ

  47. jason says:

    Actually its the opposite of escalating.

    After the claim was made, the two potential witnesses wrote letters saying they don’t recall anything like that happening.

    It is rapidly de-escalating into a situation where 3 out of the 4 people who supposedly were there stating it didn’t happen.

  48. Wes says:

    No, Lisa. It’s not. Caving on this after increasingly unbelievable allegations that are falling apart at every turn is the exact worst thing the GOP can do.

    They have to fight on at this point. They’re winning, so why quit now?

  49. jason says:

    Having Kavanaugh go down is probably the Republican Party’s best hope for actually getting a seated Supreme Court justice.”

    If they did that, they might as well disband the party.

  50. Messy says:

    48-9,51 If you go after a king you must KILL HIM. Prof. Ford has no choice but to testify.

  51. Wes says:

    This is a credibility issue. Kavanaugh has it. Increasingly Ford does not. Flake’s even on board with how Republicans are handling it. They just need to get through Monday to put this idiocy behind them.

  52. Wes says:

    Messy is now openly advocating Kavanaugh’s murder. That tells me all I need to know about how the Left thinks.

  53. jason says:

    Prof. Ford has no choice but to testify.”

    Yep.

    Now both Flake and Collins say they will vote for Kavanaugh if she doesn’t testify.

  54. mnw says:

    I expect more vague claims of contemporaneous reports by Ford, immediately followed by DEMs dialing up the “DELAY!” volume to 11.

    This is going to take GOP steel spines, & I’m not completely confident about the lame ducks.

  55. jason says:

    She doesn’t want to testify because she will be asked about specific time and date and location of the alleged assault… under oath.

  56. Wes says:

    Adding to her story at this point would be counterproductive for Ford in my view, Mnw. She put the allegations out there with already dubious statements that don’t really back her allegations up. Embellishing the story now can only hurt her.

  57. jason says:

    expect more vague claims of contemporaneous reports by Ford, immediately followed by DEMs dialing up the “DELAY!” volume to 11″

    Sure.

    But what is tough to ignore is the letters by the two other guys who supposedly were there who say it didn’t happen.

    How do you get around that?

  58. jason says:

    By saying she told nobody about the incident she already undercut anybody coming forward to say they “heard about it”, unless you want to believe Kavanaugh told them.

    I think that was a mistake, btw. At this point if she hadn’t said that she could have had dozens of friends testify that she told them all about it.

  59. Wes says:

    I have to say I doubt Kavanaugh has much to worry about. Dick Wolf will make this into a Law and Order: SVU episode wherein a character based on Kavanaugh is an unfortunate martyr defeated in her attempt to keep a racist, sexist, bigoted, homophobic, goosesteeping Nazi and rapist off the court, but I don’t see how Ford details Kavanaugh with these less-than-credible allegations.

  60. Wes says:

    Err, based on Ford, not Kavanaugh.

  61. lisab says:

    roughly half of the senators are lawyers

    perhaps a third of those will have had actual experience questioning people under oath,

    and half of those will be republicans

    sooooooooo … expect at LEAST half a dozen senators who will put dr. ford on the hot seat.

  62. Phil says:

    Guys, you cave on this and I promise you Republican voters will not turn out in November. Only a fool would believe that Republican voters are going to allow their party to get away with caving on this. You cave on this obvious smear crap and good luck getting another conservative on the Court…..because this will happen over and over and over and over again. You’re green lighting Democrats to do this every time.

    Get real.

  63. lisab says:

    No, Lisa. It’s not. Caving on this after increasingly unbelievable allegations that are falling apart at every turn is the exact worst thing the GOP can do.

    They have to fight on at this point. They’re winning, so why quit now?
    ——————————————–

    not sure which post you are referring to, but none of the posts above are my words

    they are articles on dem friendly sites

    i agree, the gop can NOT let this derail kavanaugh without actual evidence

    or they will get destroyed and every candidate from now on will be attacked the same way

    the trouble is, the dems cannot back down gracefully either, they have burned their ships and crossed the rubicon

  64. lisab says:

    Julia Louis-Dreyfus Signed Letter in Support of Christine Blasey Ford

    ————————————

    well, that seals it

  65. Hugh says:

    Phil is absolutely right

  66. janz says:

    Ford’s lawyer has said her client doesn’t want any cross-examination. The criteria being issued by the Ford team is essentially, “It’s all right for me to make vague, 35-year-old, unsubstantiated accusations, but don’t embarrass me by asking too many questions, or asking me to back them up.” IOW, she wants to be believed without any muss or fuss to her feelings! Awesome way to go!

  67. Phil says:

    The Hollywood left has signed a letter supporting Ford. Color me shocked. As Lisa says, that seals it. Kavanaugh is toast.

  68. janz says:

    “By saying she told nobody about the incident she already undercut anybody coming forward to say they “heard about it”, unless you want to believe Kavanaugh told them.”

    Jason, good point.

  69. Phil says:

    Yes, Jason’s point is spot on.

  70. mnw says:

    Wes

    I didn’t say Ford would add to her story. I said I expected more claims of “I heard about it back then,” from people other than Ford.

    One woman already posted that on Facebook, & NOT anonymously, before vanishing like a squid squirting ink.

    I would’ve much preferred that “PJ” had offered to testify under oath. I found that curious.

    You know I think this is crock. I just think there will be more coming. If she doesn’t testify, the GOP can ignore the new flack. I know the GOP senators are mightily peeved.

  71. lisab says:

    the only question is, what will the dems do next?

    and what happens if ford declines to testify?

    i think that might be the best move for both sides. the dems could claim she was being threatened so she did not testify, and the gop could claim there is no evidence and vote kavanaugh in.

    if she testifies, both sides could get hurt badly, depending on how credible she is

  72. mnw says:

    FOX has made some prediction updates. Nothing remarkable. DW may have a different view.

  73. Wes says:

    I misunderstood what you meant then, Mnw. Even so, Ford has already boxed herself in. Her testimony leaves no wiggle room for others to corroborate her account of the alleged attack.

  74. Wes says:

    I will take the word of people Ford claims were present over anything Julia Louis-Dreyfus thinks.

  75. Wes says:

    I already posted that up thread, GPO.

  76. mnw says:

    1) She’s NEVER testified!

    2) “I don’t remember telling anyone about it at the time, but I could have.”

  77. Wes says:

    I know she hasn’t testified. I should have been clearer and said her account , which indicates her first mention of it was to a psychiatrist 29 years later. That’s why her friend deleted the Tweet immediately. It conflicts directly with what Ford has said.

  78. Phil says:

    But I could have,

    I guess that will be her wiggle room. Take it to the bank. She’ll us that.

  79. GPO says:

    Sorry Wes!!! , I probably copied from your post earlier and thought I got it somewhere else lol

  80. Diamond Jim says:

    George isn’t smart enough to be a bootlegger.

  81. lisab says:

    Republican Flips Texas State Senate Seat In Runoff After Being Held By Democrats for 139 Years

    ——————————

    was this a big deal?

  82. dblaikie says:

    Yes it is. First time it has flipped in over a century. It was a San Antonio district.

  83. lisab says:

    what i mean was,

    was this a big surprise to everyone? or was the dem candidate a dingbat that everyone already knew would lose?

  84. Phil says:

    Yes, it was a huge surprise. No one saw that outcome as possible in that district. The Democrat was no more loony than any other Democratic candidate.

  85. Wes says:

    Lisa, the Dem was the former Congressman Will Hurd beat in 2014. He had high name ID and a lot of money and finished first in the jungle primary the Dems took 59% of the vote in. The Republican was never really regarded as a serious threat.

    This is not good news for Robbie’s prediction that 2018 is the GOP’s Ragnarok. Predictably RRH—which has declared every Dem victory or near victory in a special as a precursor to Gotterdamerung—downplayed the result, blaming it on low turnout and claiming Abbott helped the Republican win.

  86. Phil says:

    Wes, what a lot of people are ignoring in Texas is that Abbott is listed first on the ballot. He is extremely popular. Will win by 18-20 points. The way the Texas ballot is constructed it encourages straight party voting. The combination of the two is BAD news for Beto.

  87. Wes says:

    RIP, John Pertwee—the third Doctor Who.

  88. mnw says:

    “PJ” Judge has written extensively about his decades-long struggle with alcoholism. That is perhaps why he furnished a letter but declined to testify.

    He would spend 2 minutes saying, “I know nothing about this alleged incident,” & then probably 6 hours answering questions about being a drunk.

  89. lisab says:

    i hear ford motor company is going to stop making sedans!

    that seems like a bad idea.

  90. BayernFan says:

    Kennedy would ask Ford questions?! omfg

  91. lisab says:

    Cristina King Miranda? @reinabori

    To all media, I will not be doing anymore interviews. No more circus. To clarify my post: I do not have first hand knowledge of the incident that Dr. Christine Blasey Ford mentions, and I stand by my support for Christine. That’s it. I don’t have more to say on the subject.

  92. Tina says:

    Shannon Bream Verified Account
    @ ShannonBream
    Washington, DC
    Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. -Bonhoeffer
    twitter.com/ShannonBream

    Grassley is on top of this.

    Also, hatch just blasted Jim Sheotto for a fake news tweet.
    Does he work for cn and n?

  93. Waingro says:

    Congratulations, Senator Hawley.

    Bryan Lowry
    ? @BryanLowry3

    BREAKING: @clairecmc says she’ll vote NO on #Kavanaugh. Story at http://KansasCity.com #mosen #scotus

  94. Diamond Jim says:

    C

  95. Tina says:

    Grassley just lit in to,the Drats via letter.

    Says the “accuser” should be ready to testify since she had “council” (for the Jebots) since July.

  96. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    1h
    From colleague Shannon Bream. New letter from Grassley to Feinstein. Asks Feinstein for a copy of letter sent by Ford to Feinstein on July 30. Tells Feinstein “I must review the unredacted letter..immediately” in preparation for Monday’s scheduled hearing

  97. Wes says:

    McCaskill just willingly sealed her electoral doom. Let’s take a moment to somberly remember her Senate career—or, rather, revel in her jaw dropping stupidity.

  98. Wes says:

    Meanwhile Robbie is busy drawing a flowchart telling us how every occurrence since Ford made her allegations inevitably means the GOP is facing its electoral twilight with Kavanaugh the first victim.

  99. Tina says:

    osobiec ??
    @JackPosobiec
    24m
    Rush: According to the Left every woman’s accusations should be given the benefit of the doubt unless they’re against Bill Clinton or Keith Ellison

    Add any drat it seems….

  100. Tina says:

    Senator Hatch Office
    @senorrinhatch
    Follow
    This is not close to the offer to #ChristinaBlaseyFord. Chairman Grassley offered an open or closed hearing, reached out to discuss timing that would work for Dr. Ford, has even offered to send staff to California. This deserves a correction. twitter.com/jimsciutto/s

  101. mnw says:

    MO SEN:

    RAS said earlier this week that, according to his polling, if McCaskill voted FOR K, she loses by 1 pt, & if she votes AGAINST K, she loses by 6 pts. So, I suspect her risk calculus was wrong. She decided to stick with her base.

    So… this is good news. It comes on top of the recent “debate” where the FIRST question was “Kavanaugh?” Hawley : “Just the man MO wants & needs!” McC: “I won’t decide until I know more.” A nice contrast for Hawley, I thought.

  102. GPO says:

    I don’t understand McCaskills comment on allegations. I thought it was an easy out for red-state dems to use this accusation as to why they are not voting for Kavanaugh.

  103. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    50. “Former Obama aide Rahm Emanuel warns Trump may order military action in Venezuela for political gain.”

    Is this a joke. If Trump is going to order a military action, it should be in Chicago. Somebody has to stop the killing that Rahm has proven unable to stop. Is there a worse mayor in the nation than Rahm?

  104. Wes says:

    May I introduce you to Bill DeBlasio, SDC?

  105. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    25. “Robbie was solid behind Kavanaugh on Sunday from noon to 3 PM until he figured out that Flake’s going wobbly could be spun as somehow Trump’s fault. Give him credit for those three hours of backbone.”

    Yes, a sudden change from judicious comments to shrill troll howling “Woe, Woe, Woe Unto You” at Trump, claiming Ford’s testimony would take him down. Maybe his troll alert alarm went off, and he had to get to work.

  106. Proud Obamacon says:

    KABOOM! Wow Beto up in TX. Let’s go! It’s Beto Time.

    Outlaw BBQ yall!!!

    #Resist!

  107. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Agree Wes, DeBlasio is bad, but the body count in Chicago makes me feel Rahm is worse. As the bodies pile up, Rahm began requiring police to do more and more paperwork, which took away from their time on the street. Since it is Obama’s home city, am disappointed he has not become involved — isn’t that what community organizing his about?

  108. GPO says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:

    September 19, 2018 at 8:48 pm

    25. “Robbie was solid behind Kavanaugh on Sunday from noon to 3 PM until he figured out that Flake’s going wobbly could be spun as somehow Trump’s fault. Give him credit for those three hours of backbone.”

    The three hours of backbone are so the few that think he still is anything other than a troll will still engage him

  109. lisab says:

    when you say robbie, do you mean

    robbie
    wobbie
    wobbles
    sobbie
    blobby
    blobbie
    vichey
    or
    wormtoungue?

  110. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #107- mnw
    I think it was a Trafalgar Poll,not Rasmussen(less).

  111. mnw says:

    Sheep 116

    U r probably right. I just go by memory.

    lisab 115

    Thx for updating the list.

  112. Cash Cow TM says:

    This accuser of Kavanaugh, the Ford woman
    is turning out to be an Edsel.

  113. mnw says:

    RRH didn’t care much for my “McC a ‘no’ on Kavanaugh” posts. They all think this is good news for HER. (surprised?)

  114. jason says:

    isab says:
    September 19, 2018 at 9:20 pm

    when you say robbie, do you mean

    robbie
    wobbie
    wobbles
    sobbie
    blobby
    blobbie
    vichey
    or
    wormtoungue?”

    None of the above.

    Amoral Scumbag

  115. Robbottie says:

    What am I? Chopped liver?

  116. Robbottie says:

    This is all very worrisome.

  117. mnw says:

    MO SEN & RRH:

    The problem with RRH is that they discount Trump winning MO by 17 points– as if it were a non-recurring one-time phenomenon, like a meteor strike. The problem for them with this is that MO has been turning ruby red for two decades– long before Trump.

    Secondly, they pooh-pooh the fact that the midterm electorate is always older, whiter & more Republican than the GE electorate.

    Somehow, they put all this in the blender & conclude that McCaskill’s ‘no’ vote on Kavanaugh is… a net plus for her.

    I believe that The Wise Men just don’t know what they don’t know. If you weight “most liberal voting record” & “most conservative state” at 50% each, guess which Senator looks like the biggest misfit running this year?

    On a related topic, in announcing her ‘no’ vote, Sky Queen talked about “dark money” being her principal reason. I think she’s hung up on Citizens United. However, her multimillionaire husband has huge business dealings with China & won’t release his tax returns. Claire sees no “dark money” problem here. She giggles about how that’s her husband’s business, not hers.

    .

  118. Bitterlaw says:

    Tonight I started wearing a blood glucose monitor that sticks to my skin and I no longer have to stick my finger to draw blood several times a day. It is making me miserable. It is like a punch in the stomach hammering home that this disease ruined my life.

    If I don’t wake up, I will be lucky.

  119. mnw says:

    BL

    I’m sorry. Getting rid of the needles sounds like a good thing, but I know nothing about it. I’m sure your family loves you & wants you to wake up.

    I try to think of my kids when I get despondent.

  120. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw – Good point but I don’t much about your children so I can’t think about them.

  121. lisab says:

    i apologize …

    when you say robbie, do you mean … (now in alphabetical order for your convenience)

    amoral scumbag
    blobbie
    blobby
    robbie
    robbottie
    sobbie
    wobbie
    wobbles
    vichey
    or
    wormtoungue?

  122. GPO says:

    lol BL 127- Hang in there

  123. Tina says:

    You forgot

    ROTTIE.

    HOW CAN ANYBODY MISS MY NICKNAMES?

  124. Tina says:

    REX
    @_ImperatorRex_
    2h
    Watch : by 10am Friday, Dems will either roll out a new liar, claim the current liar is ‘suffering’ and needs more time, or lie about new ‘developments’ needing ‘investigation’. Either way, they will use lies to protect liars, to advance new lies. #ConfirmKavanaughNOW twitter.com/PoliticalShort…
    View details ·

  125. Hugh says:

    Rex has it right and the press aids and abets their behavior

  126. NYCmike says:

    “May I introduce you to Bill DeBlasio, SDC?”

    -Wes, The first few months DeBlasio was mayor, he tried, AND THANKFULLY FAILED, to change the attitude of our police force from one that was constantly monitoring to one that was constantly reacting, but much more “caring”.

    He has NOT tried again, to his credit.

    On the other hand, Rahm is in a much more difficult position, as there have not been any Republican mayors in Chicago for many years, so the heavy lifting to clean up the mess hasn’t been done yet.

    BOTH are equally terrible, but DeBlasio has the more advantageous spot.

  127. lisab says:

    updated list

    amoral scumbag
    blobbie
    blobby
    robbie
    robbottie
    rottie
    sobbie
    wobbie
    wobbles
    vichey
    or
    wormtoungue?

  128. lisab says:

    the trouble is it is hard to tell which one is the real account and which are the parodies

  129. Wes says:

    Mnw, the midterm electorate was older, whiter, and more Republican than the presidential electorate in 2010 and 2014 because an unpopular Dem President was galvanizing people he expressed contempt for to the polls.

    In 2006, when GWB has dipped down into the 30s, we saw Dems surge to the polls.

    While I do believe McCaskill will lose, I don’t stake that on the belief that the midterm composition of the Obama years will replicate itself. I chalk it up to her refusal to even try to placate the conservative voters in her state despite Hillary’s dismal showing there in 2016.

    Indeed, I believe Dems, motivated against Trump, will definitely get their voters to the polls and gain seats in the House and governorships. A good economy plus Dem shenanigans regarding Kavanaugh will, however, partly offset this. This why I think Republicans have at least a 50/50 chance to hold the House and will definitely gain Senate seats.

  130. Tina says:

    Rottie will also answer to Clinton groupie or Jebot.

  131. Bitterlaw says:

    The alarm went off on my new monitor because my blood sugar was too low. That is a major reason I got it. However, it woke up my wife. If this happens too often she will kill me so the alarm could actually prove fatal.

  132. Mr.Vito says:

    “…so the alarm could actually prove fatal.”

    Well, then that should make you happy.

  133. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I do have to give the Democrats credit. They have succeeding in botching any strategic advantage they had in the November mid-term elections. Their best strategy was to focus on Trump and his excesses. Instead, they have switched the debate to Dr. Ford and her unsubstantiated charges against Kavanaugh, Even among Democrats am seeing a strong level of discomfort with what is happening. It looks bad, and is getting worse with Ford scurrying into hiding. This is turning into the equivalent of the Salem witch trial; a mere accusation gets someone condemned.

  134. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Here are Toupee Cook’s weekly House ratings changes almost all to the Democrats. The most comical change is in the New Mexico CD-2 race. An Alberqueque Journal Poll shows the GOP candidate ahead by 7 yet Cook moves the race from Lean GOP to Toss-Up.

    More
    New at @CookPolitical: 6 House rating changes (4 towards Ds)

    #FL18 Mast (R) – Lean R to Likely R
    #FL27 OPEN (R) – Lean D to Toss Up
    #GA07 Woodall (R) – Likely R to Lean R
    #MN02 Lewis (R) – Toss Up to Lean D
    #MN03 Paulsen (R) – Toss Up to Lean D
    #NM02 OPEN (R) – Lean R to Toss Up

  135. Wes says:

    Bets on when Robbie will weigh in spinning the upcoming election as the new 1930?

  136. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Another Florida Poll–Florida Atlantic University– has Rick Scott(R) +1 in the Senate race and Ron DeSantis(R) -2 in the Governor’s race.

    https://business.fau.edu/images/business/economics/departments-economics-pages/business-economics-polling-initiative/bepi-polls/files/2018-09-18_Tight_Florida_US_Toplines.pdf

  137. Wobbles says:

    the trouble is it is hard to tell which one is the real account and which are the parodies”

    I am the real Wobbles.

  138. DW says:

    So Ford is a no-show for the Monday invite to speak?

  139. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    BayernFan
    I cannot tell you how disappointed I am in Mike Braun’s(R) Senate campaign against Sleepy Joe Donnelly(D).
    Today’s Indianapolis Star said that Braun has committed zero dollars to October advertising, refuses to self-fund although he can and spent $6.4 million of his personal fortune during the GOP primary and rarely does campaign events.
    He believes that Trump’s nod and the red nature of Indiana will carry him to victory.
    If he does not pick up the pace, Braun will be our 2012 Tommy Thompson(R-WI) who did ziltch after he prevailed in a contested GOP Wisconsin Senate primary.
    Another possible missed opportunity. SAD!

  140. jason says:

    Good question, Goober…

    “Senator Graham: Here is what I want your audience to know. If Miss Ford really did not want to come forward, never intended to come forward, never planned to come forward, why did she pay for a polygraph in August and why did she hire a lawyer in August if she never intended to do what she’s doing?… And who’s paid for it?”

  141. lisab says:

    This is turning into the equivalent of the Salem witch trial; a mere accusation gets someone condemned.
    ————————

    all of the accused have been exonerated!

  142. Bitterlaw says:

    The Salem witches should have moved to Delaware. As soon as they invented the Senate, they could have run for office. Of course, they would all be over 100 years old by then but if Walt can live that long, maybe they could, too.

  143. Redmen4ever says:

    The reason why you never make an actual accusation, don’t state a time or a place, and never, never, never present corroborating evidence:

    It’s not about justice. It’s about politics and, in particular, solidifying the man-hating women’s vote.

    Remember Anita Hill never said what Clarence Thomas did that constituted sexual harassment. It wasn’t even her word against his, because she didn’t testify to anything. It was about hating men. In Justice Thomas’ case, there was also the image of the over-sexed black man.

    The current case is the Duke Lacrosse Team redux, in that a party girl is making unsubstantiated and vague accusations. The one thing that has changed in 25 years is that now women can have white men lynched.

  144. mnw says:

    lisab 149

    RE: Salem

    Ever hear of “spectral evidence”? At Salem, the courts allowed witnesses to testify about visions of demons, & what ghosts had told the witnesses in dreams.

  145. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Marsha Blackburn(R-TN) +3 in the 2018 TN Senate race according to Triton Polling for the TN Star newspaper.

    http://tennesseestar.com/2018/09/14/tennessee-star-poll-blackburn-leads-bredesen-by-3-lee-beating-dean-by-16/

  146. mnw says:

    WSJ: Jobless Claims Fall Again to Fresh 49-year Low.

    Wes 137

    You’re not really saying anything different than what I said. The midterm electorate is ALWAYS different from a GE electorate, in the way I described. Obviously, however, sometimes the DEMs can do well with even a midterm-model electorate. Sometimes older, whiter, etc. vote for the DEMs.

    As DW & I have noted, The Wise Men furiously resist the obvious. You should have seen the rage when I posted that McC’s “no on “K vote would hurt her.

  147. mnw says:

    Sheep

    Just FYI, that TN poll was posted some days ago.

  148. Todd McCain says:

    147. Yes, he is going to need to work to beat Donnelly. I don’t think that is fair on Thompson though; the WI primary bankrupted him and he had no money for the fall campaign. That same thing is happening to Vukmir right now….These nasty WI primaries have been destroying our chances.

  149. jason says:

    Cokie Roberts at ABC is off the MSM reservation I guess:

    “But so far, they and the White House have, by and large, played it smart. They have repeatedly stated that Ford be respected and heard. They have focused their fire on Democrats — not her. And as the week has progressed, and no other woman or fellow high-school partygoer has come forward, they have renewed their support for Kavanaugh, who has unblinkingly denied the allegations.

    If Ford took this life-altering step because she believes that Brett Kavanaugh should not serve on the Supreme Court, then she must come forward to tell that to the Senate. And then it will be up to the members to decide what to do.

    As it is now, without her testimony, it is almost certain that Judge Kavanaugh will soon become Justice Kavanaugh.”

  150. Todd McCain says:

    Hearing that Donnelly is set to vote NO on Kav; this should give Braun a nice boost.

  151. jason says:

    I don’t think that is fair on Thompson though; the WI primary bankrupted him and he had no money for the fall campaign. That same thing is happening to Vukmir right now….These nasty WI primaries have been destroying our chances.”

    Yeah, but the deadenders have sent their message…by electing liberal Dems.

  152. Phil says:

    Let me get this straight. Democrats were screaming – let her tell her story. We must be allowed to hear the witness. Democrats now that she’s been given her platform by Grassley? Having her testify isn’t “fair”. The hearing is a “sham”.

    What am I missing? I can’t keep up with their changing and completely contradictory talking points. Someone explain it to me.

  153. Todd McCain says:

    Hoping Manchin also votes NO; this would be a huge boon for Morrisey.

    Looking like if nothing happens over the next two days; we got 51 votes for Kav.

  154. DW says:

    And don’t forget that Grassley went so far as to offer a private hearing. Couldn’t make it any easier. But its never been about actually testifying, it was about opening up an investigation to delay the vote.

    If this doesn’t motivate the GOP base, nothing will.

  155. Hugh says:

    The only votes gained here will be white male millenials becoming more republican

  156. Tina says:

    More Beta

    Beta tells a group of African Americans that “illegals” were needed for the cotton gin.

  157. Tina says:

    Trump, GOP regain edge in Kavanaugh battle thehill.com/homenews/senat… Pssst. Douchenozzles from the Hill: They never lost the edge. Judge K will be confirmed.
    View summary ·

  158. DW says:

    Probably when Feinstein and her ilk met in the dark, smoke filled room to assemble this scheme, they weighed the pros and cons.

    Someone spoke up and said, “Look, nothing can go wrong. The most likely GOP response will be to cry ‘Anita Hill’ and ram it through denying Ford a hearing. And if they do that, the ME TOO movement will take over and we easily win house and senate. Alternatively, if the GOP leaders just throw Kavanaugh out to try again, the GOP base will melt away and we win both house and senate easily. We cannot lose!”

    Then someone else at the table asked, “Wait…what if the GOP leaders invite Ford to testify, you know, give her a chance to speak, what then?”

    The first person responded, “Oh, come on, the GOP hates women and won’t resist the urge to just bully her into silence. There is no way that would happen.”

  159. dblaikie says:

    This drivel about needing to hear other witnesses is sickening. There are no other witnesses! The two who have been identified claim Dr. Ford’s party never happened. No one else has come forward. No one has come forward and said something like, “I didn’t go to that party. But I have seen the Judge at other parties drinking like a fish and leering at the teenage girls. My goodness in the world of DC prep schools if Kavanaugh did that, the liberal alumni would fighting to get to a microphone shouting, ME TOO!

  160. jason says:

    Phil, what you are missing is that the Dems want her to tell her story without being challenged.

    They don’t want questions like why did you delete your social media posts, what was on them? What is the address of the alleged incident? When did it happen? Who invited you to the party?

    It seems like if you were subject to some horrifying experience at somebody’s house, wouldn’t you remember the location?

    I can’t remember every party I went to when I was 15, but I think I would have remembered the location of any party where I was subject to some terrible experience.

  161. lisab says:

    dr ford may have realized that she is in actual legal jeopardy if she testifies under oath

    or

    perhaps realizes that she would be made to look a fool, as would most people under examination by lawyers that have no judge to stop them from terrorizing a witness, and does not want the pressure

    soooooooooo … she may have refused to testify

  162. lisab says:

    alternatively, the dems may be just trying to delay further, and they will say on Monday that she will testify after the elections

    which of course the gop would reject

    and that would cause a huge uproar

  163. jason says:

    Another problem is she has to remember a lot of details clearly, such as the alleged assault, but can’t remember the other details at all like where and when this happened. Selective memory.

  164. jason says:

    alternatively, the dems may be just trying to delay further, and they will say on Monday that she will testify after the elections

    which of course the gop would reject

    and that would cause a huge uproar”

    Nah, that is too obvious a political strategy.

    It basically says ok we admit this is just to stop the nomination.

  165. lisab says:

    and that would cause a huge uproar
    ————————–

    it would cause a huge uproar, but i agree it is a very obvious political strategy

    and i think the dems have seen focus group data showing they are not doing well on this

    notice the lack of trolls … the dems do not have a clear strategy on this yet

    they were hoping kavanaugh and the gop would just fold

  166. Cash Cow TM says:

    NEED YOUR HELP!

    Walt dreamed that he and his wife suddenly decided to go to Frankfort, Germany on a 3-day trip when his wife found a great price on airline tickets.

    When they got to the airport, they had one seat for $200 and the wife said she would take it and boarded the plane. Walt would wait on standby if/when a seat opened up.

    Well, one did and they told Walt it was $1,000 and Walt refused to pay that price.

    If Walt is able to get a flight out the next day, then his wife would spend one day in Frankfort alone, they would be together one day, and then Walt would be there alone for one day.

    PLUS, Walt had no details on where they were staying!
    #####################################
    WHAT DOES THIS ALL MEAN!

  167. mnw says:

    Both DOW & S&P hit all-time highs this morning.

    This is less significant to me than other data, i.e., unemployment; wage growth, etc.

    Tina

    Beto is perhaps the most forthright advocate of open borders & illegal aliens I’ve ever seen nominated for a major office.

  168. Todd McCain says:

    Juanita Broaderick back in the news blasting DEMS; they definitely didn’t want this. This is starting to turn.

  169. mnw says:

    Walt

    Just an anxiety dream. I still dream I have overdue term papers.

  170. jason says:

    “Amid allegations of sexual assault by Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh, former chief nominations counsel Gregg Nunziata is ‘deeply disappointed’ that Democrats circumvented the Senate’s bipartisan tradition of handling sensitive matters carefully and confidentially.”

    Because the objective here was never to stop Kavanaugh, it is to keep Trump from appointing a new justice before the election.

    Derailing Kavanaugh over the summer would not have accomplished the objective.

  171. jason says:

    Walt

    Just an anxiety dream. I still dream I have overdue term papers.”

    Walt won’t relate to that.

    Paper had not been invented yet when Walt was a student.

    Heck, schools hadn’t been invented.

  172. Wobbles says:

    notice the lack of trolls”

    I am on standby hoping someone else will come forward to accuse Kavanaugh of something.

    There is a rumor he didn’t recycle several items found in his trash that could have been recycled, demonstrating his desire to destroy the planet.

  173. Wes says:

    What do you mean, Lisa? Robbie told us Kavanaugh will lose because Ford will destroy him in her testimony .

  174. jason says:

    Huh, Chuckie, why did you sit on it for months then?

    “Dr Ford reasonably requested FBI bkgd check before she testifies so all the facts come out instead of just 2 conflicting stories w/o a resolution.

    GOP delayed Merrick Garland for nearly a yr & now we can’t have short pause to get the facts?Give me a break. What are they hiding?”

    And of course she is not requesting a “background check”, she wants a full FBI investigation.

  175. DW says:

    FL_06

    Mike Waltz (R) 48%
    Nancy Soderberg (D) 43%

    St. Pete polls.

    This one is ranked Lk R by most, so no ‘Boom’

  176. Wobbles says:

    Robbie told us Kavanaugh will lose because Ford will destroy him in her testimony”

    Yes, she will say she was assaulted almost 40 years ago.

    She told nobody, she doesn’t remember where it happened or when it happened.

    The purported witnesses all denied it happened.

    There is no way such a credible claim will not sink Kavanaugh.

    Oh, and did I tell you that would be bad for Trump?

  177. jason says:

    Beto is perhaps the most forthright advocate of open borders & illegal aliens I’ve ever seen nominated for a major office.

    – Jon Gruden?

  178. jason says:

    I could be wrong, but it seems like Chukie is pessimistic about her testifying….

  179. Tina says:

    So, Frankenstein sat on this for months? She failed to report.

  180. jason says:

    So, Frankenstein sat on this for months? She failed to report.”

    She probably regarded it as an ace up her sleeve.

  181. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Ugly Ohr is refusing to tstify before Congress.

    She is related to Bruce Ohr.

  182. jason says:

    Supposedly, Ford’s lawyer is not responding to Grassley, she is out doing interviews on TV.

    That says a lot.

  183. dblaikie says:

    This ought to make Tina’s day. What a big surprise it turns out that James Comey was the main advocate to use the Steele Dossier.

  184. Tina says:

    Failing to report a sexual allegation makes her complicit.

    Grasley has asked her to provide the unrdscted or original letter and she does not want to.

  185. mnw says:

    Gruden? The football coach?

    I said “that I’ve ever seen.” There are probably some others I just never noticed.

    How’d u like to be the poor cop selected to “investigate” this high school deal from 36 years ago? “I KNEW I shouldn’t have sold my boss that car!”

  186. dblaikie says:

    I think it is time to clear out the whole 7th floor of the FBI building. And that includes that weakling Ray.

  187. jason says:

    Only Messy still believes in the dossier… even Steele admits its BS…

    “In a London court, where Mr. Steele is being sued for libel, he filed a declaration that backtracked from the confidence he expressed in the dossier. He wrote of an “extensive conspiracy” between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin. But in court, he talked only of “possible” collusion and said all of his allegations needed to be verified. Some allegations were unsolicited call-ins.”

  188. jason says:

    Gruden? The football coach?”

    It’s sort of an inside joke here.

    Gruden likes to make “this is the best in History” statements about 20 times on every broadcast so we regularly parody him.

  189. jason says:

    McDonald’s customers who hung fake poster in restaurant for 51 days get $25G checks from fast-food chain.

    Jehv Maravilla, 21, and his friend Christian Toledo, 25, placed the sign in the Pearland McDonald’s after noticing a lack of Asian representation in the marketing materials.

    “We were eating McDonald’s one day and we looked around and saw there were posters around that didn’t have any Asians,” Maravilla told KHOU 11. “They had other races but no Asians so we felt like it was our duty to put ourselves up there.”

    The pair concocted a scheme that involved buying McDonald’s uniforms from goodwill and creating fake badges to have their sign placed in the store.

    Though the friends were worried about “getting in trouble,” the sign remained in the store unnoticed for 51 days – until the pair posted about their prank on Twitter, where it went viral.”

    Hmmmm….

    Has anyone seen any Incas or llamas at Wendy’s?

    If not, I am going to cash in.

  190. janz says:

    #169. The aspect of being in legal Jeopardy I’m sure factors in on professor Ford’s decision not to testify under oath. What a sham this whole event has become.

    BTW, Ford has also written 8 papers on behalf of a popular abortion drug. She seems to not only be a hard-nosed partisan, but also highly invested in abortion practices. Both are underlying motivations for her bringing such inflammatory, yet unsupported, charges against who the Dems consider to be a strong constitutional conservative.

  191. lisab says:

    “What do you mean, Lisa? Robbie told us Kavanaugh will lose because Ford will destroy him in her testimony.”
    ——————————–

    that is a possibility, it could happen. there are people who come across as very sincere and believable. kathleen willey was one of those people as is evan rachel wood. evan rachel wood being an actress, obviously knows how to play a believable character, so take her story with a grain of salt, although i believe her story myself.

    however, i am guessing that dr. ford is not such a person. perhaps she is lying and cannot do so convincingly when up against senators,

    or

    she is telling the truth, but just comes across as insincere.

    the dems will NOT let her testify if either the above are true. if she does not come across as truthful, she would harm the dems more than help

    even if her story is true.

  192. lisab says:

    i do believe the lack of trolls on this issue is because the dems themselves know this could blow up in their faces

  193. Tina says:

    https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/20/eric-swalwell-susan-collins-threats/

    Swallow whole mocks Senator Collins, who has been threatened over Kavanaugh.

    This is offensive.

  194. jason says:

    Ia lisab saying that all it takes for Ford to derail Kavanaugh is for her to be a good liar?

    If so, something is very wrong with the system.

    Ford can come through as Mother Teresa, but if she has nothing else except her word against the 3 people who say she is lying then it shouldn’t
    matter.

  195. Robbie says:

    I still think it’s more likely than not that the accuser agrees to testify by tomorrow’s deadline. I think this has all been an effort to generate drama and show she’s willing to tesify even under “unfair” circumstances. There’s no way this accuser is going to pass on the chance to be a heroine to the liberal movement.

    And if the accuser does testify in public on Monday, she will be viewed as credible by the media no matter what she says. She will be sainted by the press and Kavanaugh will be instantly branded as a devil and a monster.

    If she does testify and the press portrays her as a heroine (a good bet), my guess is Trump will throw Kavanaugh overboard by Wednesday of next week. Collins, Murkowski, Flake, and Corker will all say they have issues with the nomination moving forward.

  196. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    September 20, 2018 at 7:20 am
    Bets on when Robbie will weigh in spinning the upcoming election as the new 1930?

    – I’ve never used that year as an example and you know that.

    I have said this has the look of 2006 in the House even though that was the midterm of a second term presidency.

  197. Robbie says:

    Also, I never said the accuser’s testimony will destroy Kavanaugh. I said, no matter what she says, the press will treat her as credible and smear Kavanaugh.

  198. lisab says:

    Ia lisab saying that all it takes for Ford to derail Kavanaugh is for her to be a good liar?
    ———————————-

    yes, a good liar on national tv could derail kavanaugh

    if most of the voters believe her, kavanaugh is toast

  199. Wes says:

    That sound you hear is Robbie’s pleasuring himself to the idea of seeing Republicans take it on the chin for refusing to nominate JEB!.

  200. lisab says:

    however, if she comes across as non-credible,

    even if she is telling the truth

    kavanaugh will be confirmed

  201. mnw says:

    Vichey’s Greatest Hits Album: Hillary may carry MO too!

    Then… long cruise.

  202. Hugh says:

    Unless she has someone to collaborate her story. She can testify or not testify and BK will get in. The republicans know they will get slaughtered in the midterms if he doesn’t get through. Anyone who thinks otherwise is in another reality

  203. lisab says:

    yes, a good liar on national tv could derail kavanaugh
    —————————————-

    she would actually have to be a pretty spectacular liar

    some of the senators are practiced lawyers who make mincemeat of witnesses for a living

    my intuition tells me dr ford is very intelligent, and probably considers herself much smarter than the deplorables, but …

    that kind of thinking will get her crushed.

  204. jason says:

    if most of the voters believe her, kavanaugh is toast”

    This is not an election.

    She can come across as very credible, but if he denies it when its his turn he will still be confirmed.

  205. lisab says:

    The republicans know they will get slaughtered in the midterms if he doesn’t get through.
    ————————–

    what i was saying is,

    if most REPUBLICANS believe her, then kavanaugh is toast

    it does not matter what anderson cooper or the nytimes believes.

    she has to be believable to the bitter clingers

  206. Toast says:

    if most of the voters believe her, kavanaugh is toast

    Then do I become Kavanaugh?

  207. jason says:

    If she does testify and the press portrays her as “a heroine (a good bet), my guess is Trump will throw Kavanaugh overboard by Wednesday of next week. Collins, Murkowski, Flake, and Corker will all say they have issues with the nomination moving forward.”

    “Also, I never said the accuser’s testimony will destroy Kavanaugh.”

    Amoral Scumbag lies so much he can’t even remember what he is lying about.

  208. jason says:

    if most REPUBLICANS believe her, then kavanaugh is toast”

    That will never happen if the facts are what has been reported.

  209. lisab says:

    i give her a 1 in 10 shot tops at stopping kavanaugh if she testifies

    which is not my estimate of her being truthful

    just she could come across as really sincere and/or kavanaugh could really mess up

    and probably both would have to happen

  210. jason says:

    I do think the decision has already been made either way.

    The fact her lawyer is doing interviews instead of holding meeting about it means they have already decided.

  211. lisab says:

    That will never happen if the facts are what has been reported.
    ——————————-

    history is full of things that were never supposed to happen.

    i have less faith in sure things than most people on hhr

    just look at president hillary

  212. CG says:

    I don’t think she will testify or ever had any intention to.

    At this point, I see zero Republican Senators voting against Kavanaugh because of this uncorroborated allegation, especially if she does not testify.

    There’s no need to pull the nomination.

    The public is going to show via polling they are opposed because of the Trump Factor, and the association with him, but that’s not supposed to matter right?

    Judge Kavanaugh belongs on the Supreme Court and any decent fair-minded person should realize that he is being mistreated for political reasons. He and Clarence Thomas will have something in common.

  213. jason says:

    i give her a 1 in 10 shot tops at stopping kavanaugh if she testifies”

    Ok, I guess I can agree with those odds.

    And I don’t think Kavanaugh is going to mess up.

    He is going to come prepared.

  214. jason says:

    Corey is smarter than Amoral Scumbag. But we knew that, and of course that’s a pretty low bar, no offense to Corey.

    He may have TDS, but doesn’t feel compelled to support every Dem smear campaign because it might be negative for Trump.

  215. CG says:

    Robbie does not back Democrats. I think that is an unfair allegation against him. He does however have a very long history of always assuming the worst politically.

  216. lisab says:

    kavanaugh has proven he is cool under pressure and comes across as very sincere, and has experience at least as a judge in testimony … i happen to think he is also telling the truth

    i give the overwhelming advantage to kavanaugh

    but … the usa team also beat the soviets in the miracle on ice

  217. Redmen4ever says:

    Would it be fair if a majority of the members of the Supreme Court were unjustly accused of sexual assault?

    Shouldn’t we have representation from Americans subjected to warrantless wiretaps? Or, who had their property taken by the government without due process? Or, who were denied admission to law school because they didn’t have the correct skin color? You know, the deplorables, irredeemables, the dregs of society? The ones who they say there is no room here for them?

    Is re-education camps the “final solution” for that element? Or, will those with the will to power devise a more efficient method?

  218. Tina says:

    The accuser can have her attorney file a complaint with the Md police.

    Fib has no jurisdiction here

  219. jason says:

    Robbie does not back Democrats. I think that is an unfair allegation against him.”

    Sure he does.

    If you believe that he is not hoping the Dems win control of Congress you are smoking some good
    sh-t.

    If you don’t believe he supported Obama over Romney you are smoking some good sh-t.

    You are right about the long history though. Always the same M.O.

  220. Tina says:

    And with civil penalties, I can see why she will not.

  221. jason says:

    “The accuser can have her attorney file a complaint with the Md police.”

    I don’t know what the statute of limitation is on assault, but I am sure it has long since expired.

  222. jason says:

    In CA the complaint has to be filed before the victim turns 28 (in the case of assault against a minor).

  223. lisab says:

    Would it be fair if a majority of the members of the Supreme Court were unjustly accused of sexual assault?

    —————————————-

    this has very little to do with being fair

    even if she is telling the truth, because in that case, she was outed by the dems after she originally said she did not want to come forward, but feinstein outed her.

    it is 100% brutal politics, and the dems should be ashamed

    (i am obviously giving dr ford benefit of the doubt here — her story seems fishy to me, but i admit it could be true)

  224. jason says:

    It’s more likely Kavanaugh would sue for defamation.

  225. Tina says:

    Not if its a felony.

    No statute of limitations,

    Mnw confirmed this a few days ago.

    Bl indicate that a drat prosecutor could “open up a case.” You know something like they did with the hoax, Clinton Russian dossier.

  226. jason says:

    Even rape (certainly a felony) is 10 years in CA.

  227. jason says:

    But you are right, does not expire in MD.

  228. jason says:

    “Sexual assault victims deserve respect. And senators shouldn’t be threatened by the public. I said something stupid and minimized ugly behavior,” Swalwell wrote. “That tweet is deleted and I’m sorry for that.”

  229. mnw says:

    Tina is right. MD has no SOL for felony sex offenses. In that respect, MD is unusual. Most states limit “no SOL” to homicides only.

  230. jason says:

    There is a rumor out that Ford is finished… let’ see.

    Probably to good to be true…but fwiw

    ttps://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2018/09/20/whoa-nelly-rumor-has-it-info-has-been-obtained-that-will-100-exonerate-kavanaugh-feinstein-set-to-apologize/?utm_campaign=twitchywidget

  231. Tina says:

    Remember, she claims that “he tried to kill her.”

    Or that was added by Chinastein in the letter that she “made.”

  232. jason says:

    to good?

    More coffee.

  233. jason says:

    Remember, she claims that “he tried to kill her.”

    To be fair, she said she was afraid he would “inadvertently kill her”.

    Big difference.

  234. Tina says:

    So, “life long republican” comedy fell for the dossier?

    As did lie long commie, Brennan, and life long drat, McCabe?

  235. Redmen4ever says:

    Independent of questions of when and when, and corroborating evidence substantiating the claim, in the case of Kavanaugh, this is how one intoxicated person making advances on another person of similar age, both of them minors, becomes rape:

    1. Sexual assault takes many forms including attacks such as rape or attempted rape, as well as any unwanted sexual contact or threats. Usually a sexual assault occurs when someone touches any part of another person’s body in a sexual way, even through clothes, without that person’s consent.

    2. Outside of law, the term rape, “an assault by a person involving sexual intercourse with another person without that person’s consent”, is often used interchangeably with sexual assault.

    Thus, America has a rape epidemic. This is because a woman who has been drinking CANNOT give consent, nor can minors. Therefore, looking at a woman at a bar in a way she feels is threatening, is rape.

    The airtight defense to all this is counter-accusation, assuming the female is not a child, that if she is a minor so is he, or if he is older than 18 and she is a minor that they are within two years of each other, or if both are over 18 and neither has power over the other. You say she raped me. Then you say I didn’t tell this to anybody because I was embarrassed. When you say this, the other party has to prove she is innocent just as you have to prove you’re innocent, which is impossible for either.

  236. jason says:

    However, without a place, time and date and witnesses such a complaint would go nowhere, even in MD.

  237. jason says:

    So, “life long republican” comedy fell for the dossier?”

    He didn’t fall for it… I am sure he new it was bogus.

  238. jason says:

    new? Is Messy contagious?

  239. jason says:

    The fact the witnesses she names in the accusation deny her story pretty much precludes a complaint.

    In fact she should never have named those guys if she wanted to file a complaint.

    Kavanaugh would certainly not have identified them if he claims he was not even there.

    It would have been her word against his, now it’s 3 against 1.

  240. GPO says:

    as usual im late ! I see Jason posted earlier

  241. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    September 20, 2018 at 11:55 am
    That sound you hear is Robbie’s pleasuring himself to the idea of seeing Republicans take it on the chin for refusing to nominate JEB!.

    – Is this the best you’ve got these days?

  242. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 20, 2018 at 12:04 pm
    If she does testify and the press portrays her as “a heroine (a good bet), my guess is Trump will throw Kavanaugh overboard by Wednesday of next week. Collins, Murkowski, Flake, and Corker will all say they have issues with the nomination moving forward.”

    “Also, I never said the accuser’s testimony will destroy Kavanaugh.”

    Amoral Scumbag lies so much he can’t even remember what he is lying about.

    – Stupidf@ck who believed Roy Moore has issues with people who don’t share his views.

  243. Tina says:

    Senate Judiciary
    @senjudiciary
    5m
    Replying to @senjudiciary
    Democrats sat on Dr. Ford’s allegations for MONTHS & did nothing. They STILL haven’t turned over the original letter they received from Dr. Ford. Why would Dems sit on allegations for months and then not even participate in the Committee’s investigation? judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/rele…

  244. Tina says:

    The media hacks are mad that trump has not attacked the woman. They hope he attacks tonight in Vegas.

  245. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 20, 2018 at 12:29 pm
    Robbie does not back Democrats. I think that is an unfair allegation against him.”

    Sure he does.

    If you believe that he is not hoping the Dems win control of Congress you are smoking some good
    sh-t.

    If you don’t believe he supported Obama over Romney you are smoking some good sh-t.

    You are right about the long history though. Always the same M.O.

    – I see stupidf@ck Jason fraud is now making things up about me in order to deflect from the frustration about the political standing of the Republican Party.

    Remember. If Republicans lose the House in Novemeber, it will be my fault. That’s what Jason fraud will try and peddle.

  246. Tina says:

    Just go ahead and subpoena both ugly Ohr and the former fib counsel. If they do not comply, arrest them.

    Quit playing with these coup plotters.

  247. Robbie says:

    If the accuser decides not to testify, Kavanaugh will be confirmed with all 51 Republicans.

    If the accuser decides to testify, I think it’s more likely than not that Kavanaugh’s nomination fails (pending some new information).

  248. Robbie says:

    Ed Whelen posted those claims about Kavanaugh and Feinstein on Tuesday. It’s not new information that has broken today.

    I would be surprised if Whelen has any inside information other than the fact those who were at this supposed party claim the events did nt happen.

  249. Tina says:

    The “accusers” lawyah is now saying that she could not respond to Grassley because of yom kipur and technical issues.

    Notice, during this time, she was on cn and n and mslsd.

  250. Tina says:

    The Grassley tweet is interesting.

    Looks like they may have interviewed or were in contact with a 4th person.

    Was this the fourth boy, or another girl?

  251. Tina says:

    Schweikart is calling the “accuser”

    Balless Edsel.

  252. Tina says:

    Doug Ibendahl
    @DougIbendahl
    Follow
    Accuser’s former classmate recants what she originally claimed on Facebook, and she’s deleted that post. #ConfirmKavanaugh npr.org/2018/09/20/649…
    7:00 AM – 20 Sep 2018
    Kavanaugh Accuser Classmate: ‘That It Happened Or Not, I Have No Idea’
    After saying on social media that the incident “did happen,” a former classmate of Christine Blasey Ford tells NPR she does not have first-hand knowledge of it.
    NPR NPR @NPR

    Not looking good for the accuser. Maybe this is the person that the Rs on the committee interviewed?

  253. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    One reason the Republicans may be so anxious to ask Dr. Ford to testify is they have some incriminating evidence against her. It may explain why she avoids the press and went into hiding. She has became a tool in the Democrats effort to delay the Kavanaugh vote beyond the midterm elections. If the FBI finds nothing, the Democrats will quickly drop the issue.

    A poll done earlier in September showed Feinstein with 37% to de Leon with 29%. With 34% undecided. Given the criticism of Feinstein now, the race could become competitive.

  254. jason says:

    I would be surprised if Whelen has any inside information other than the fact those who were at this supposed party claim the events did nt happen.”

    Worried, huh?

    You would be more than surprised, devastated is the word.

  255. jason says:

    That sound you hear is Robbie’s pleasuring himself to the idea of seeing Republicans take it on the chin for refusing to nominate JEB!.”

    LOL

  256. Redmen4ever says:

    Feinstein:

    She is the moderate in a top-two run-off against a bold progressive; BUT, with the shenanigan she pulled against Kavanaugh, I doubt many Republicans will vote for her. Combine payback votes from Republicans with the bold progressive vote, and sister Diane might be spending more time with sister Christine.

  257. Robbottie says:

    “will try and peddle.”

    I meant try TO peddle.

    Very concerning. I will go pop another Xan.ax.

  258. Robbottie says:

    “Ed Whelen posted those claims about Kavanaugh and Feinstein on Tuesday. It’s not new information that has broken today.”

    I meant Ed Whelan. I’ve known about this since Tuesday, but did not post it, because I was on a nonstop flight that only permitted me time to post that Kavanaugh is doomed.

    Is it okay to mix my Kentucky Bourbon with Xan.ax?

  259. Robbottie says:

    Does stupidf@ck have one or two “@”s?

    It isn’t in my Strong’s Concordance of the Bible.

  260. jason says:

    It’s over for Kavanaugh.

    Philip Rucker
    ?
    @PhilipRucker

    During Brett Kavanaugh’s time as an undergrad at Yale, his fraternity, DKE, marched across campus waving a flag woven from women’s underwear.”

    No Kavanaugh is not even in the picture, but it was taken “during his time at Yale”.

  261. BayernFan says:

    INDIANAPOLIS (Statehouse File) — Democratic Sen. Joe Donnelly holds a slight lead over his Republican rival Mike Braun in a poll of Hoosiers over age 50 conducted by the AARP, the organization announced Wednesday.

    The poll, conducted from Aug. 17 to Aug. 28, showed that 38 percent of voters over 50 said they would vote for Donnelly while 35 percent said they preferred Braun. But nearly one in four said they were still undecided.

    The poll of 807 Hoosiers has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points, which makes the race a statistical tie as the candidates hammer each other in television ads that saturate local airwaves.

    https://www.wthr.com/article/aarp-poll-shows-close-race-between-donnelly-braun

  262. jason says:

    It appears Grassley has obtained another statement from somebody who was named to be at the party.

    I imagine it’s not good news for Ford, just guessing.

  263. CG says:

    I bet Spicoli and Brad were at the party.

  264. jason says:

    AARP is a far left arm of the Democratic Party.

    If anyone here belongs to it, you should switch to AMAC.

    https://amac.us/

  265. Todd McCain says:

    Looks like she is going to testify

  266. jason says:

    Grassley should hold firm on Monday.

    Enough is enough.

  267. jason says:

    She should not be able to dictate the terms or the dates.

  268. Hugh says:

    More of the same. She won’t testify but she will stall.

  269. CG says:

    This 1982 party may be the very reason why Judge Reinhold never made it to the Supreme Court.

  270. dblaikie says:

    Nothing much has changed until I hear what “fair” means? It is still clear to me that the dems don’t want her to testify unless there is no other alternative. I believe that she will not be credible. I have said that from the beginning.

  271. CG says:

    The hearing should not go forward until former foreign exchange student Long Duck Dong is located and can be subpoenaed.

  272. Redmen4ever says:

    Christine is waiting for Mueller to give her immunity.

  273. BayernFan says:

    278 How do you figure? Where do you see that there is a fourth person?

  274. Tina says:

    Grassley told the accuser no fib investigation.

    The fib already refused when the “letter made by Frankenstein” was turned over.

  275. Tina says:

    It is in the judiciary tweet that I mentioned up top.

    It says, they made contact with a fourth person….

    It is R nvestigators on the committee that made this contact.

  276. jason says:

    278 How do you figure? Where do you see that there is a fourth person?”

    Grassley announced it. Or the Judiciary Committee did.

  277. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    32m
    Ford counsel to Judiciary Cmte: A hearing on Monday is not possible and the Committee’s insistence that it occur then is arbitrary in any event…Her strong preference continues to be for the Senate Judiciary Committee to allow for a full investigation prior to her testimony.
    View details ·

  278. jason says:

    This last letter might be the exit strategy.

    She will make demands of “fairness” Grassley cannot accept.

    And he should stick to Monday.

  279. jason says:

    Grassley should politely say he does the scheduling.

  280. Tina says:

    2m
    I want to know what Ford’s letter to Feinstein actually said. Starting to seem like we’ll discover even more discrepancies and inconsistencies once that’s released.

  281. CG says:

    Her lawyer will produce a letter signed by the entire Breakfast Club, asking for her demands to be met.

  282. Tina says:

    Frankenstein is not providing the letter.

  283. Redmen4ever says:

    MyCatsKill – no on Kavannaugh – what the heck, I’m going to lose

    Hiddie Hiddie HideAndSeak – no announcement – she’s still in the denial phase

    Joe Donnelly – no announcement – he’s undecided as are 35 percent of Indianans over 50 according to AARP

    Joe Manchin, Joe Tesler and Joe Nelson – no announcement – this is what you call leadership when you’re a little ahead in the polls, or sort of tied

  284. Tina says:

    I head rumblings tester is losing.

    Also, in Oh, whispers are brown is going down.

  285. CG says:

    Whisper soft flushes?

  286. lisab says:

    Frankenstein is not providing the letter.
    —————————–

    i am sure the final version has not been written yet

  287. Wes says:

    Unless Brown makes a tremendous misstep over the next month Renacci is losing, Tina. The Republican has spent hardly anything and hasn’t been close in months. I see no evidence Renacci can catch up unless the OHGOP has a remarkable October surprise.

    Tester has lost ground no doubt. He went from a small lead to tied fairly quickly after the Pearl Jam incident. I think Rosendale—assuming he can avoid any other unforced errors like ducking debates—has a good chance of winning.

  288. Tina says:

    Looks like the new hearing date may be Thursday, if Grassley agrees.

  289. CG says:

    Too bad Ray Watson isn’t alive to play Grassley in the movie.

  290. Tina says:

    2m
    I want to know what Ford’s letter to Feinstein actually said. Starting to seem like we’ll discover even more discrepancies and inconsistencies once that’s released.

    Hopefully, this tweet is not correct.

  291. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    270. “Feinstein: She is the moderate in a top-two run-off against a bold progressive; BUT, with the shenanigan she pulled against Kavanaugh, I doubt many Republicans will vote for her.”

    This is a tough one. I voted for Feinstein in the primary, as her opponent is a far leftist, and sort of slimy. Also, have had dealings with Feinstein in the past and genuinely liked her. My feeling now is not to vote for either candidate. But I could still see voting for Feinstein as the lesser of two evils.

  292. Tina says:

    Chuck Ross
    @ChuckRossDC
    50m
    Kavanaugh’s accuser is for some reason consulting with Democratic operative Ricki Seidman, who helped guide Sotomayor through the SCOTUS nomination process politico.com/story/2018/09/…
    View

    They said she did not have any political bone in her body.

  293. lisab says:

    ‘No accident’ Brett Kavanaugh’s female law clerks ‘looked like models’, Yale professor told students

  294. Tina says:

    Better sources than cn and n sources.

  295. Tina says:

    Nick Short
    @PoliticalShort
    1h
    John Brennan compares Trump declassification order with … pushing the nuke button. How did Brennan ever become head of the CIA? conservativereview.com/news/john-bren…
    View summary ·

    How did a commie head the Cia? Was he also behind the Iraq had wmds?

  296. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Besides hiring a Democratic political consultant, looks like Ford’s attorneys are Democratic operatives as well:

    “Democratic Sen. Tammy Baldwin’s campaign listed Brett Kavanaugh accuser’s attorneys as headliners at a Washington fundraiser slated to take place next month, according to a copy of the invite obtained by CNN.”

    “Kavanaugh’s accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, is being represented by attorneys Debra Katz and Lisa Banks, both of whom are listed as headliners in a “cocktails and conversation” event for Baldwin, a Wisconsin Democrat who is facing re-election this fall. People are asked to contribute up to $1,000 to attend the October 1 event, and a source familiar with the matter said it is slated to take place at their law firm Katz, Marshall & Banks.

    After CNN contacted the Baldwin campaign and the attorneys, Katz called CNN to say that the event was being canceled. The invite was sent Thursday morning, but a campaign spokesman called it an “old invite” scheduled before Ford’s accusation became public.”

    The focus has shifted from Trump’s craziness to the Democrats craziness. This is blowing up in the Democrats face.

  297. Tina says:

    Byron York
    @ByronYork
    34m
    Judiciary Committee rules require one-week notice for hearings. On Sept 17, Grassley announced a Ford-Kavanaugh hearing for Sept 24. If Grassley accommodated Team Ford’s new demand, he would have to notice a new hearing, no earlier than Sept 27, unless Dems agree on earlier date.

  298. Tina says:

    #Rush: Karen Tumulty is telegraphing that another victim will be dug up before Monday.
    View details ·

    Part of the playbook.

  299. Robbie says:

    Delay, delay, delay. That’s all this recent letter from the accuser is.

    It’s time for Cocaine Mitch to end this charade and call the vote.

  300. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 20, 2018 at 1:54 pm
    That sound you hear is Robbie’s pleasuring himself to the idea of seeing Republicans take it on the chin for refusing to nominate JEB!.”
    LOL

    – This from a guy who gets moist at the thought of Marco Rubio.

  301. Robbottie says:

    I <3 "Cocaine Mitch"

    Remember when he almost lost to Allison Grimes?

    This was very concerning.

  302. Robbottie says:

    “This from a guy who gets moist at the thought of Marco Rubio.”

    For clarity, “the guy” is not me. lisab is a liar.

  303. Robbie says:

    This is an empty offer from the accuser’s lawyer. Why? Because the lawyer will not be willing to set a date for the hearing until every issue has been ironed out and you can bet the lawyer will make sure the negotiations take time. And since a meeting can’t be called without a week’s notice, who knows when a schedule meeting could occur.

    This is a charade. It’s a plot to delay indefinitely and nothing more.

  304. Tina says:

    Now Mitchie is cocaine Mitch?

    Wtf, Mitchie could do no wrong before.

  305. Robbottie says:

    Oh dear. How disconcerting.

    It is “This coming from a guy who gets moist at the thought of Marco Rubio.”

    Not: “THIS, from a guy who gets moist at the thought of Marco Rubio.”

  306. Robbottie says:

    I should not have used the word “coming.”

    I need another Xan.ax.

  307. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    321. “This is a charade. It’s a plot to delay indefinitely and nothing more.”

    Agree with Robbie on this one. The Democrats will do or say whatever they can to delay the confirmation vote.

  308. Phil says:

    Why in God’s name would Grassley negotiate a postponement of the Monday meeting to a later date?

  309. Todd McCain says:

    This is so so so so ridiculous…..call the effing vote.

  310. Phil says:

    Again, I ask – why is Grassley and the Republicans even considering agreeing to postpone Monday’s testimony?

    What a bend over and take it political party the Republicans are. Unbelievable.

  311. Messy says:

    Because if he doesn’t, then he and Kavanaugh look bad, and pooF! there goes the Senate.

  312. jason says:

    Responses to CNN report that Kavanaugh’s wife is receiving death threats.

    “My condolences to you for being married to a rapist. Although you probably deserve it,” the person wrote in an email obtained by CNN.

    Another message sent Wednesday had the subject line, “F*** YOU AND YOUR RAPIST HUSBAND.”

  313. jason says:

    Because if he doesn’t, then he and Kavanaugh look bad, and pooF! there goes the Senate.”

    I am willing to take that risk.

    Call the vote. Enough of this charade.

  314. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 20, 2018 at 5:06 pm
    Why in God’s name would Grassley negotiate a postponement of the Monday meeting to a later date?

    – Flake, Collins, and Murkowski.

    He’s got to herd those cats I get the impression Flake would be fine if his last act as a Senator was derailing a Trump nominee to the Supreme Court.

  315. lisab says:

    Christine Blasey Ford’s yearbooks describe wild sex parties, blackouts, erotic male dancers

    “Lastly one cannot fail to mention the climax of the junior social scene, the party,” reads one passage. “Striving to extend our educational experience beyond the confines of the classroom, we played such intellectually stimulating games as Quarters, Mexican Dice and everyone’s favorite, Pass-Out, which usually resulted from the aforementioned two.”

  316. jason says:

    Scrappleface:

    “Kavanaugh Accuser Says Why She May Not Testify

    (2018-09-19) — Christine Blasey Ford may not appear before the Senate Judiciary Committee to testify about her claim that she was sexually assaulted by a 17-year-old Brett Kavanaugh, because she’s not sure exactly when or where the hearing happens.

    Ms. Blasey Ford, who wrote a detailed description of the night — some 36 years ago — when President Trump’s future Supreme Court nominee assaulted her, said she knows there is a hearing, and that it’s going to change her life forever, but she can’t pinpoint the location, or even during which month it occurs.

    Speaking through her attorney, Kavanaugh’s accuser said that, even if she could get to the hearing, she doesn’t know how she would get home.

    “The Senate panel should stop everything,” attorney Debra Katz said, “and delay the confirmation vote until a full criminal investigation can be completed — or until Democrats re-take the Senate, whichever comes first.”

  317. Robbie says:

    Anyone remember what the story was two weeks ago? Probably not. It was the anonymous editorial. People have a short memories these days.

    Call the vote. There will be hemming and hawing, but it will pass just as every other Trumpovercy has passed.

    Two weeks from now, we’ll be onto some other story. If Republicans continue to dither, this issue will linger and it increases the chances something derails Kavanaugh. That, in turn, would demoralize what’s left of Republican enthusiasm to vote in November.

  318. jason says:

    This would be a huge mistake too.

    “The Judiciary Committee is exploring having an independent lawyer question Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and his accuser Christine Blasey Ford, should she agree to testify on Capitol Hill next week.

    Having an outside lawyer do the questioning would avoid the spectacle of senators engaging in a testy back-and-forth with Ms. Blasey Ford, who has accused Judge Kavanaugh of an attempted sexual assault more than three decades ago. He has vehemently denied the allegation, and so far no corroborating witness has publicly come forward to back up Ms. Blasey Ford’s account.”

  319. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    330. “Because if he doesn’t, then he and Kavanaugh look bad, and pooF! there goes the Senate.”

    Where do you come up with these off the wall comments? The whole incident is blowing up in the Democrats face.

  320. jason says:

    “Flake, Collins, and Murkowski”

    At some point they have to realize they are being played for fools.

  321. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    336. “Two weeks from now, we’ll be onto some other story.”

    Yes Robbie, and am sure your relishing the fact it will be Trump related. The Ford escapade is running interference for Trump right now.

  322. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 20, 2018 at 5:35 pm
    “Flake, Collins, and Murkowski”
    At some point they have to realize they are being played for fools.

    – Why? They haven’t yet.

    I don’t know about Collins, who is a shoe-in for victory in 2020, or Murkowski, who just won re-election, but Flake seems ready and willing to stick it to Trump and he has nothing to lose. Trump’s already run him out of the Senate.

  323. CG says:

    Be patient people.

    The vote will be called well before the midterms. We are talking about a day or day extra now maybe. Just calm down.

    Frankly, if you want to have optimum pressure on the Red State Democrats, you want the vote as close to the election as possible.

  324. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 20, 2018 at 5:37 pm
    336. “Two weeks from now, we’ll be onto some other story.”
    Yes Robbie, and am sure your relishing the fact it will be Trump related. The Ford escapade is running interference for Trump right now.

    – Huh?

    I’m relishing nothing. I’m not relishing what could be a long period of minority status in the House.

    The point is the news cycle chugs along. For instance, four weeks ago, Manafort was found guilty and Cohen pleaded guilty. Is anyone talking about that now? Nope.

  325. CG says:

    Haven’t heard anything from Murkowski but Flake and Collins seem to clearly be of the impression that if she does not want to testify, then the vote should be called.

  326. CG says:

    Oh, plenty of people in the White House and Trump’s legal team are still talking about Manafort and Cohen. Believe it.

  327. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    For a third party Liberal group, PPP has Cruz +3 in a Texas Senate Poll.

    PPP has a new TX poll out for a liberal group (so a generous helping of salt):

    Cruz leads 48%-45%

    Trump approval 47%-50%

    No numbers on Abbott. This probably means that the Q-Poll wasn’t that far off, considering the source.

    https://www.protectourcare.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/Texas-Protect-Our-Care-Sept-18-2-Results.pdf

  328. CG says:

    Have the vote in early October for all that it matters.

    If Kavanaugh truly has nothing to hide, he has nothing to fear.

    If somebody magically shows up claiming he assaulted them, it will be seen for what it is, but the only people that truly matter on this (50 out of 100 Senators)

  329. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    September 20, 2018 at 5:42 pm
    Haven’t heard anything from Murkowski but Flake and Collins seem to clearly be of the impression that if she does not want to testify, then the vote should be called.

    – But will they fall for her desire to testify under certain circumstances and not on Monday? I bet yes.

  330. CG says:

    Believe it that the Democrats are absolutely freaked out and livid that Trump is not attacking Ford on Twitter.

    They can’t believe he hasn’t done it yet.

    Do you guys trust your boy can help himself much longer?

  331. jason says:

    Trump’s already run him out of the Senate.”

    LOL

    He ran himself out of the Senate.

  332. CG says:

    They’ve given her lots of options. Public or private. DC or California.

    The ball is in her court. If they want to drag it out a few more days, fine. This isn’t some public relations nightmare. There is not a finite “election day” as it relates to this. It just sucks of course for Kavanaugh and his family. I am sure they are willing to accept it for the cost of the opportunity he has and the reality of having to have Donald Trump involved.

  333. Hugh says:

    You can delay two days and it will be something else and it starts with bet. Whenever the vote is called the republicans will be called every name in the book so let’s get it over with. The public is sick of it. I think the only impact on voters will be on millennial men. Hold tough Grassley. Diane has not even given up the letter.

  334. Robbie says:

    It sure seems like they’re going to cave to the accuser’s demands.

    Kasie Hunt
    @kasie

    Republicans are planning to hire outside counsel to lead their questioning of Judge Kavanaugh and Dr. Blasey Ford.

    They want to hire a female litigator.

    That way, it won’t be 11 men doing the questioning.

    Democrats can’t stop this plan, a Dem aide says.

  335. Hugh says:

    Murkowski will be a yes. Her state is 70% male.

  336. jason says:

    Be patient people.”

    No.

    The whole thing is a farce and a charade.

    Grassley already postponed the vote and set a date for her to testify.

    She doesn’t like the date, too bad.

    End this circus now.

  337. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Oh Robbie, anytime there is negative Trump news, you bubble up like a volcano and erupt spewing verbal lava.

    You and I both know that Trump can only hold his tongue so long. Although he is doing well now. He twitter is actually very positive now. He did make a comment: “I hope Republican Voters, and others, are watching, and studying the Democratic Playbook.”

  338. CG says:

    Stop fearing “something else.”

    I trust that it relates to Kavanaugh, there really is nothing else and he has nothing to hide.

    You guys are programmed to realize that Donald Trump has a million and eight things to hide or things you have to overlook about him on a daily basis, so you are afraid of some buzzer going off.

    Kavanaugh is not Trump. Let the vulnerable Dem Senators twist in the wind over this and explain their rationales.

  339. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    September 20, 2018 at 5:48 pm
    They’ve given her lots of options. Public or private. DC or California.
    The ball is in her court. If they want to drag it out a few more days, fine. This isn’t some public relations nightmare. There is not a finite “election day” as it relates to this. It just sucks of course for Kavanaugh and his family. I am sure they are willing to accept it for the cost of the opportunity he has and the reality of having to have Donald Trump involved

    – This is about delaying Kavanaugh so they can find a reason for him to withdraw and it is about ensuring there isn’t enough time to nominate a second person and confirm that choice in the lame duck should Democrats take over the Senate.

  340. CG says:

    Let a female lawyer handle it all then. (There was talk it may be Kelly Ayotte.)

    That’s just fine, since the GOP side of the Judiciary Committee is strictly “white men.”

  341. lisab says:

    i hope the vote is monday

    whether she testifies or not

    quicker the better

  342. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 20, 2018 at 5:50 pm
    Oh Robbie, anytime there is negative Trump news, you bubble up like a volcano and erupt spewing verbal lava.

    – So four or five days a week.

  343. jason says:

    If they postpone the vote and agree to forego questioning her they have effectively surrendered to blackmail and agreed to the charade.

    Another situation where Rs snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

  344. CG says:

    I am sure you have all heard the saying about giving someone enough rope to hang themselves with.

    By all means, bend over backwards for Dr. Ford, for now. When the time is up, it will be up.

    Stop acting like Kavanaugh has something to hide and we have to get him in before it comes out.

  345. CG says:

    He’s not going to withdraw. He is not going to be pulled, unless Donald Trump is just a madman…

    Oh wait…

  346. jason says:

    That’s just fine, since the GOP side of the Judiciary Committee is strictly “white men.”

    Let the white men question her, she is white too.

    If you cave to this kind of nonsense, that men can’t question women, you are opening a horrible precedent.

    Ridiculous.

  347. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    352. “The public is sick of it.”

    Yes, and they know the Democrats are to blame for the whole circus.

  348. CG says:

    Republicans need to be able to say, “well, we did postpone and delay x number of times, we did everything possible to make her comfortable…”

    Odds are, she will never agree to anything, but they have to at least have the narrative be that they went out of their way to try.

    Trust the process.

  349. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    September 20, 2018 at 5:52 pm
    I am sure you have all heard the saying about giving someone enough rope to hang themselves with.
    By all means, bend over backwards for Dr. Ford, for now. When the time is up, it will be up.
    Stop acting like Kavanaugh has something to hide and we have to get him in before it comes out.

    – This isn’t about whether Kavanaugh has something else to hide. This about not being held hostage by Democrats who only have a desire to delay, delay, delay.

    If Republicans agree to delay, who knows how long it might take to agree to her demands? And you can bet the lawyer won’t allow a date to be set until all of the demands are met. Who knows how long that could take.

    Democrats are playing for time and the accuser’s lawyer is coordinating with them.

  350. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “I am sure you have all heard the saying about giving someone enough rope to hang themselves with.”

    You stole the quote I was going to use just as I was typing it. Dang

  351. CG says:

    We already have horrible precedent with all of this.

    So, let the new precedent be that a lawyer can ask her the “tough questions.” (This is more about gender than race of course, but they like to throw “white men” into it.)

    Kelly Ayotte will be just fine or someone like her.

  352. Wes says:

    I don’t mind if Senate Republicans have Kelly Ayotte question Ford. Ayotte wouldn’t ask anything the sitting Senators would not ask.

    Of course then Mikey and Aaron Day will conspire to undercut Ayotte’s questioning, so maybe not.

  353. jason says:

    Stop acting like Kavanaugh has something to hide and we have to get him in before it comes out”

    Nobody is acting like Kavanaugh has something to hide.

    The hearings on Kavanaugh were over. There was no obligation to re-open them just because the Dems decided to sit on the allegations.

    Rs bent over backwards to accommodate these allegations that have absolutely nothing to them except the word of a liberal activist.

    If she won’t testify Monday, it’s on her, not Kavanaugh. He agreed to testify.

    This is a charade. End it now or Rs will live to regret it.

  354. CG says:

    They can only delay so far and so much.

    The vote will happen before Election Day 2018.

    The longer it goes on, the more sticky of a situation this is Donnelly, Tester, Heitkamp, Manchin, etc.

    Wake up people. Think of 3D Chess. Some of you were convinced Trump was a genius for kissing Kim Jong Un’s ass, but are worried now about delaying a few days?

  355. CG says:

    I am certain the Dilbert guy would agree with me.

  356. jason says:

    I don’t mind if Senate Republicans have Kelly Ayotte question Ford. Ayotte wouldn’t ask anything the sitting Senators would not ask.”

    I do. This would have long and detrimental consequences forever.

    Pretty soon a senate panel will not be able to question a minority. Or a gay person.

    This is insane if Rs agree to this stupidity.

  357. jason says:

    long and forever? That’s a long time.

  358. CG says:

    The Dem Senators won’t get to question Kavanaugh (or her) either then.

    The rules would be the same for both sides.

    If this is played right, Kavanaugh can walk away from this a frickin’ rock star. Don’t deny him the opportunity for optimum righteous indignation.

  359. Hugh says:

    He needs to be in for the start of the term.

  360. jason says:

    Rs will be making a huge mistake if they agree to another postponement.

    You read it here first.

    It’s a complete victory for the Dems.

  361. CG says:

    Nothing’s going to happen the first few days of the term.

  362. CG says:

    I think some of you are leery to admit it here, but you are scared to death that Trump is going to do something to ruin this….

  363. jason says:

    The Dem Senators won’t get to question Kavanaugh (or her) either then.”

    BFD.

    He is not the one lying here.

    Let them ask him what they want.

    And let the Rs on the panel ask her what they want.

    Anything else is a complete surrender.

  364. CG says:

    It’s not a complete surrender if the objective is to make the “enemy” coming away looking worse than they did before.

    Stop thinking so inside the box. You might as well have been a Jeb! delegate.

  365. Wes says:

    While I wouldn’t mind having Ayotte question Ford I don’t support delaying any further. Grassley has been incredibly accommodating already. Dems will only continue to try delaying the process. Schedule a hearing Monday as already planned. If Ford doesn’t show up, call for the vote and end this idiocy.

  366. jason says:

    Zzzzz… Trump has been completely supportive of Kavanaugh.

    I am not worried about Trump at all.

    What I am worried is that stupid R senators will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

    If she won’t testify, call the vote.

  367. CG says:

    Delay it until prime time Wednesday. There’s no football on.

  368. CG says:

    You guys are worried Trump is going to attack her looks on Twitter at any moment, and public sympathy for her will soar…

    I know what you are thinking.

  369. jason says:

    Schedule a hearing Monday as already planned. If Ford doesn’t show up, call for the vote and end this idiocy.”

    Yep.

    It’s already been delayed long enough.

    The vote should have been held today.

    Now time is up.

  370. CG says:

    I yield the floor.

  371. mnw says:

    Sheep 346

    RE: TX SEN:

    Agree 100% with your analysis.

  372. Wes says:

    Corey forgets a man and his family are being dragged through the mud during this. Senate Republicans need to end this unless they want to run the risk of having other potential appointees look at the handling of this and decline to accept.

  373. jason says:

    Personally, I have not given Trump a thought about this.

    I thought his interview where he said he felt bad for Kavanaugh and his family was excellent. That was the extent of any involvement by Trump I saw or considered.

    This is not about Trump.

    It’s about ending a charade orchestrated by the Dems and which the Rs seem to be accepting if they don’t put their foot down.

  374. Tina says:

    I want Trump to attack her.

    That way I will side with the accuser.

    Jebot

  375. Tina says:

    Why attack her?

    She and her attorney, who is several notches down from Allred, are destroying themselves.

  376. Tina says:

    John Cardillo retweeted
    Ryan Saavedra ?? Ryan Saavedra ??
    @RealSaavedra
    28m
    Democratic operative Ricki Seidman, who Politico reports is now advising Kavanaugh’s accuser, was recorded in July plotting a strategy to defeat Judge Kavanaugh pic.twitter.com/JHEvCfIQDe
    View photo ·

    Yikes, the plot thickens…

  377. Phil says:

    Enough is enough. The hearing is Monday. Dems were screaming about her not being heard. She has been given her chance. Take it or leave it. If she doesn’t testify Monday call the vote. Enough of this crap.

  378. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    My hunch is that the Ford will never agree to attend a hearing. Doubt she wants to be put under oath.

    But the Republicans bent over backwards to accommodate her. It is important to have the new justice approved at or near the time the Supreme Court begins its new term.

  379. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 20, 2018 at 6:17 pm
    My hunch is that the Ford will never agree to attend a hearing. Doubt she wants to be put under oath.

    – There’s a case to be made she doesn’t want to testify and she’s making requests she suspects won’t be accommodated so she can blame not testifying on the Republicans rather than backing out on her own.

    It’s possible, but I doubt it.

  380. Phil says:

    SD, she has to agree to testify. If she doesn’t Kavanaugh is confirmed. Democrats are not going to let that happen. She will be forced by the left to testify.

  381. mnw says:

    NJ-11

    The DEM nominee has invited those who favor Trump’s agenda, like her opponent, to move to Arkansas.

    the mnw corollary: or Missouri!

    You’re so condescending!
    Your gall is never ending,
    We don’t want nothin’, not from you!

  382. lisab says:

    breaking on twitter

    another student who looked just like kavanaugh may be the one she remembers

    the party may have been in his house

    ed whelan’s twitter

  383. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    September 20, 2018 at 6:27 pm
    breaking on twitter
    another student who looked just like kavanaugh may be the one she remembers
    the party may have been in his house
    ed whelan’s twitter

    – If the person Ed Whelan named wasn’t in on his tweet storm, then Whelan has opened himself up to serious charges of libel.

  384. mnw says:

    lisab

    I haven’t been impressed with Whelan, thus far.

  385. mnw says:

    Vichey:

    From His Treatise: “On the Applicability of Civil Libel and Slander Statutes to Twitter Posts.”

  386. Robbie says:

    I do find what Whelan has posted to be interesting, but that was wildly unfair to the person he has identified.

    If it was wrong to do this to Kavanaugh, it was wrong to do this to the other person.

  387. Robbottie says:

    I am concerned for experienced lawyer Ed Whelan.

    I think he should stop talking.

  388. Mr.Vito says:

    ruh roh

    https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/407677-fbi-memos-detail-partisan-axes-secret-conflicts-behind-the-russia-election

    FBI memos detail ‘partisan axes,’ secret conflicts behind the Russia election meddling assessment

  389. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    399. “SD, she has to agree to testify. If she doesn’t Kavanaugh is confirmed. Democrats are not going to let that happen. She will be forced by the left to testify.”

    She only will be prepared to testify next week if the committee agrees to “terms that are fair and which ensure her safety” This is a stalling tactic. The Democrats knew Kavanaugh was now on his way to approval, and they are trying again to delay it.This likely will all climax tomorrow.

  390. Mr.Vito says:

    Kyle Griffin
    ?Verified account @kylegriffin1

    Kirsten Gillibrand: “Who is not asking the FBI to investigate these claims? The White House. Judge Kavanaugh has not asked to have the FBI to review these claims. Is that the reaction of an innocent person? It is not.” (via CBS)

    Jake Tapper
    ?Verified account @jaketapper

    BREAKING — @SenWhitehouse, D-RI, says “as soon as Democrats get gavels“ (retake the House or Senate) they will “get to the bottom” of what happened between Kavanaugh and Ford and “why the FBI stood down” in background investigation of Kavanaugh given new allegation

  391. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Ed Whelan’s makes a compelling argument for a case of mistaken identity.

    https://twitter.com/EdWhelanEPPC/status/1042893987747713024

    He is well within his right to say it. He is not in anyway claiming that one of the home’s occupant committed any sort of sexual assault. What he is showing is that Kavanaugh was not at the house, which is verified by others.

  392. Mr.Vito says:

    Mueller will get right on this.

  393. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    September 20, 2018 at 6:53 pm
    Ed Whelan’s makes a compelling argument for a case of mistaken identity.
    https://twitter.com/EdWhelanEPPC/status/1042893987747713024
    He is well within his right to say it. He is not in anyway claiming that one of the home’s occupant committed any sort of sexual assault. What he is showing is that Kavanaugh was not at the house, which is verified by others.

    – If the person Whelan named wasn’t in on this, Whelan will find himself in court facing a libel suit.

  394. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Rather than Ford refusing to testify,Ford’s supporters are trying to change the narrative to say that Ford was willing testify, but her conditions were not met, and she did not fell safe. Her attorneys cannot risk her testifying, and her story being blown to bits.

  395. Wes says:

    Do the Dem Senators not know the FBI has no jurisdiction here? It falls under the purview of the DA in the jurisdiction where Ford alleges the incident occurred. Why hasn’t she leveled a criminal complaint there?

  396. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Whelan did not accuse anyone of wrongful conduct. It is Ford who could face a defamation lawsuit.

  397. Wes says:

    Could it be the local DA isn’t a partisan Dem hack willing to destroy his credibility on a frivolous rape claim?

  398. Wes says:

    I don’t feel like looking it up. Where did Ford say Kavanaugh supposedly tried to rape her? That should make it easy to find the DA’s name.

  399. Mr.Vito says:

    RNC Research
    ?Verified account @RNCResearch

    In July, Democratic operative Ricki Seidman was recorded plotting a strategy to defeat Judge Kavanaugh. Full Audio Here

    https://youtu.be/zRttpJxj59A

    Same “strategy” she used with Bork and Thomas, I would imagine.

  400. jason says:

    Right.

    Whelan is not accusing anybody of anything.

    I am sure the Dems want to know where the alleged attack occurred and if Kavanaugh was there.

  401. jason says:

    Supposedly Ford’s yearbooks contain a lot of unsavory st-ff.

  402. Wes says:

    I just looked it up. Montgomery County, MD, is where Ford alleges Kavanaugh assaulted her. John McCarthy is the local DA. Party registration is about 380,000D-113,000R. That probably means McCarthy is a Dem. Why hasn’t Ford contacted McCarthy’s office about filing charges against Kavanaugh ?

  403. jason says:

    What I want to know is will the Rs cave or not?

  404. lisab says:

    it is heartening to see how concerned robbie was that the lawyer might open himself up to libel

    he is always thinking of others

  405. jason says:

    Whelan actually gives Ford an honorable out if she wants it.

    But of course she doesn’t want it.

  406. jason says:

    “It is heartening to see how concerned robbie was that the lawyer might open himself up to libel”

    Yes, Amoral Scumbag is VERY concerned.

  407. Redmen4ever says:

    Why even bother with specifics like time and place? She said he did something. That used to settle it with regard to black men. So a few innocent white men are lynched along the way. And if that other white man might be the one, lynch ’em both.

  408. Bitterlaw says:

    Despite all the hatred towards him, I give Flake credit. He was the one who handed the rope to the Democrats that they are now using to hang themselves. Great strategy.

  409. GPO says:

    What did Flake do BL?

  410. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not believe accusers who cannot say when something happened, where it happened or who was there when it happened.

    I also do not believe people who say it did not happen because they would have to know when and where it happened to be credible.

  411. jason says:

    WAPO unhinged:

    “Perspective: In the ’80, boys’ prep schools like Kavanaugh’s could be bastions of misogyny.

    “I went to an elite high school down the road from his,” writes national security reporter @GregJaffe. “Here’s what I saw.”

    Here we go. Kavanaugh must be guilty because the school down the road might have been a bastion of misogyny.

  412. Bitterlaw says:

    Flake wanted to hear from her before the vote. Trump agreed with this tactic. The Dems F’ed up. She should have been in front of the Senators the next day lying her ass off and crying the whole time. Offering her the chance to testify took away the line of attack that the GOP was ignoring her.

  413. Bitterlaw says:

    In 11th grade I hooked up in a car even though the court reporter I hired to record the girl’s consent failed to appear. My shot at SCOTUS is finished.

  414. jason says:

    Feinstein accuses media of outing Ford.

    But she and her staff and a Dem congresswoman were the only ones who knew her name.

  415. jason says:

    I don’t give Flake any credit.

    I think this allegation SHOULD have been ignored.

    If the nominee was a Democrat and the Senate was Democratic they wouldn’t have given her the time of day.

  416. Tina says:

    Trump rally in Las Vegas with heller and Tarkaenian,

  417. Bitterlaw says:

    We’re still hearing bitchimg and moaning about Judge Garland not getting a vote. Not offering Ford a chance to speak would have been a big mistake. The Dems blew it.

  418. Todd McCain says:

    Looks like Monday hearing is further delayed.

  419. Robbie says:

    So it appears Grassley is negotiating with the accuser’s lawyer and Thursday is a potential hearing date.

    This is a terrible cave by Republicans. Monday or nothing, but Flake, Collins, and Murkowski are running the show.

  420. Tina says:

    The Jebot is now concerned with the 3 Cuckateers?

  421. Robbie says:

    Why would Republicans accept another delay? On top of that, she wants Kavanaugh to testify first. I thought he had a right to address his accuser?

    Manu Raju
    @mkraju

    Ford’s attorney told Judiciary staff that she is open to testifying next Thursday in a public hearing in Washington assuming her safety is guaranteed, Kavanaugh testify first and no outside counsels question her. She wants them to subpoena Mark Judge. GOP will now mull it over

  422. Mr.Vito says:

    What is he supposed to testify about if he goes first?

    Stupid.

  423. Todd McCain says:

    Subpoena for Mark Judge might be a NO GO.

  424. gameboy says:

    Hate to agree with #440, but it’s horrible news if true. WTF is the matter with the GOP senators?? If they don’t stand firm with the Monday or nothing date than I am afraid not only is Kavanaugh doomed, but Robbie will get his wish and the GOP will get trounced in the house and senate in November. Another delay shows total weakness….. Pathetic if true

  425. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    September 20, 2018 at 8:31 pm
    What is he supposed to testify about if he goes first?
    Stupid.

    – Exactly. They should say no.

  426. Mr.Vito says:

    In what bizarre world does the accuser testify after the accused?

    #bananarepublic

    #kangaroocourt

  427. Redmen4ever says:

    Ford demands that K. go first because he’s accusing her of lying. It’s her right of confronting her accuser. He’s guilty. Everything else is just details.

  428. Robbie says:

    If Republicans agree to this nonsense, I will be left to conclude they have decided saving face with female voters before the election is more important than confirming Kavanaugh.

  429. Hugh says:

    Grassley should never move the day. In the end the criticism of this will be the same when they vote. Why delay?

  430. Tina says:

    Hannity Interuptus to interview the President pre Vegas rally tonite,

  431. Mr.Vito says:

    Ben Shapiro
    @benshapiro
    How the hell is the accused supposed to testify first when he hasn’t even heard the details of the allegation from the alleged victim?

  432. Tina says:

    Kavanaugh sends letter agreeing to appear Momday.

  433. Tina says:

    Little Benji is right.

  434. Robbie says:

    She doesn’t want a lawyer asking her questions because she wants the image of 11 white men asking a woman about assault. This is a farce. Tell her no and call the vote.

    Shannon Bream
    @ShannonBream

    SOURCES: Ford team wants NO questions from lawyers, only Qs from Committee members, #Kavanaugh cannot be in the room, Kavanaugh must testify FIRST – more to come …

  435. Mr.Vito says:

    Those demands are a mockery of our judicial system.

  436. gameboy says:

    #449

    Stupid thinking by the Republicans if they really think something like this will save face with female voters. Actually it will have the opposite effect. Based on my 50 years of experience women want strong men with principles and backbone……not those who are weak, get scared and roll over.

  437. Paul says:

    Time for Trump to stop the impending nose dive, throw Kavanaugh out and nominate Hardiman.

  438. Hugh says:

    The only swing voters of consequence are male millennials and whether republicans will vote. The demands are ridiculous. Turn them down and win or you can cave and lose

  439. Tina says:

    Shannon Bream
    @ShannonBream
    1m
    Senate staffer: It only makes sense for the accused to follow and respond to the charges. Judge #Kavanaugh would obviously follow Dr. Ford.
    View details ·
    Shannon Bream Shannon Bream
    @ShannonBream
    2m
    Senate staffer: Committee doesn’t issue subpoenas in the process of considering nominations. Other alleged witnesses made clear they have no intention of testifying. #Kavanaugh

    Calm down gang. The accusers “demands” will not be agreed to.

  440. Robbie says:

    They’re going to cave. They’re being played like a fiddle and they’re too dumb to realize it. Does anyone think Chairman Leahy would agree to something like this if the roles were reversed?

    Manu Raju
    @mkraju

    MORE: Ford attorneys did NOT draw hardly any red lines in the list of requests. Those were mostly asks and appear to be negotiable, sources say. The only red lines: Ensuring her safety and making sure she’s NOT in the same room as Kavanaugh. Both sides say it was productive call

  441. Tina says:

    The “accusers” hack attorney is trying to blow this up.

  442. Mr.Vito says:

    “Calm down gang. The accusers “demands” will not be agreed to.”

    Of course they won’t.

    That were even made is outrageous.

  443. Mr.Vito says:

    “The only red lines: Ensuring her safety and making sure she’s NOT in the same room as Kavanaugh.”

    Fine.

  444. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    September 20, 2018 at 8:56 pm
    “The only red lines: Ensuring her safety and making sure she’s NOT in the same room as Kavanaugh.”
    Fine.

    – Only response should be “See you Monday or never.”

  445. Bitterlaw says:

    Where do accusers go to find lawyers who specialize in that field? I know criminal law attorneys (prosecutors and defenders), tax attorneys, litigation attorneys, real estate attorneys, etc. I have never met an accuser attorney.

  446. Mr.Vito says:

    “Where do accusers go to find lawyers who specialize in that field?”

    The DNC

  447. Mr.Vito says:

    Or you could try a Tammy Baldwin fundraiser…

  448. Mr.Vito says:

    “The Deep State opened a London office?”

    It’s where Christopher Steele works.

  449. Tina says:

    Laura Ingraham
    @IngrahamAngle
    43m
    Now Ford team doesn’t want a distinguished female attorney questioning her—how insulting to women lawyers and how obvious that this is all a set-up from Day O

  450. Bitterlaw says:

    Bert and Ernie are not gay?

    lisab hardest hit. She can still hold out hope for the Teletubbies.

  451. Mr.Vito says:

    “… this is all a set-up from Day O”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQXVHITd1N4

  452. Bitterlaw says:

    Oddly enough, the UK Deep State is conservative.

  453. mnw says:

    There is a “Wag the Dog” problem here. We, Senate! You, accuser who showed up late! FU and the horse you rode in on. That is all. We’re through with your arrogance & presumption.

    NV Trump rally:

    I love the fact that Tarkanian is on stage with Trump, as well as Heller. Let’s all get there together, or not at all.

  454. jason says:

    I am glad the outside counsel idea is being shot down, that was a really stupid idea.

    But Grassley should say no to all the demands except maybe the in the same room thing.

  455. jason says:

    I love the fact that Tarkanian is on stage with Trump”

    mnw never saw a deadender he didn’t love.

    Tarkanian is a lightweight ass not fit for dog catcher.

    Oh wait, I say that because he is a socon, not because he is a moron. I forgot.

  456. Cash Cow TM says:

    We live in a bizarr-O world.

  457. jason says:

    Let’s all get there together, or not at all.”

    OMG, that oozes hypocrisy.

    I love this fake “unity” crap from people who would rather have liberal democrats elected than evil RINO “establishment” Republicans.

  458. mnw says:

    A deadender is someone like you, who prefers to see the DEMs win the KS Governor GE. Look in the mirror, & you’ll see the only deadender who has ever posted here.

  459. mnw says:

    Name a single “evil RINO ‘establishment’ Republican” I’ve EVER refused to support in a GE.

    You can’t, because there are none. I even voted for McCain.

    Explain my “oozing hypocrisy,” pls?

  460. jason says:

    Name a single “evil RINO ‘establishment’ Republican” I’ve EVER refused to support in a GE.”

    Zzzzz…… sophomoric and idiotic straw argument.

    By the time the GE rolls around, if you nominate a deadender you can vote for him all you want, the deadender is still going to lose to the liberal Dem.

    SEND A MESSAGE, right?

  461. Robbie says:

    Maybe I’ll be wrong, but I find it hard to believe the Republicans in the Senate will hold together and say that the accuser must testify on Monday and Monday only.

    First, I think Flake will muck up the works because he’s exacting his pound of flesh from Trump over their feud. Second, I suspect Collins and Murkowski will make it clear they will not vote for Kavanaugh if the accuser isn’t given a chance to speak on her own terms.

    Again, I think, if the accuser speaks at the hearing, the chances Kavanaugh’s confirmation goes up in flames greatly increases.

    She should not be dictating terms when her allegation are almost totally unproveable.

  462. jason says:

    who prefers to see the DEMs win the KS Governor”

    LOL

    I am sure you can find a post where I said that right?

    Or did I say Kobach is a horrible candidate that puts the governorship of KS at risk and is going to be used to bash other Rs on a national scale?

  463. jason says:

    irst, I think Flake will muck up the works because he’s exacting his pound of flesh from Trump over their feud”

    Really?

    So Flake will sacrifice his conservative and Republican principles because he hates Trump.

    Now who else do we know like that?

  464. jason says:

    gain, I think, if the accuser speaks at the hearing, the chances Kavanaugh’s confirmation goes up in flames greatly increases.”

    I disagree with this earlier.

    However, if the Rs cave and accept a hearing on the Dem’s terms, I think Amoral Scumbag may be right.

    I didn’t think the Rs would actually be suicidal.

  465. Dylan says:

    What the HELL is the problem with Senators like Gillibrand and Hirono?? I have never heard such shrill mediocrity In my life. It’s amazing the GOP doesn’t really come up with superstars to challenge these awful mediocre humans.

  466. Dylan says:

    And this commercial that just got cut with the celebrities:
    “Dr Ford —-we believe your testimony!” Wtf!!! This lady HAS NOT testified yet. How shameless this whole thing is. This is truly Orwellian. And frankly Grassley at age 85 may be too old for this fight. Yes he has seniority but he may not have the fight in him.

  467. Robbie says:

    In my mind, the issue isn’t so much the terms of the accuser’s appearance. It is whether she speaks or not. I think the big danger for Kavanaugh is, in fact, her speaking in public.

    If I thought the Republicans had the backbone to push through a different nominee in the lame duck session, I might not be as worried about this, but I have no expectation the party would do that. I could easily imagine Flake and a few others saying something so significant should not be handled until the new Congress convenes.

    On top of this, I do not think the party should bank on holding onto the Senate after November. I think it’s still unlikely the chamber turns over, but I thought it was unlikely in 2006 Republicans would lose the Senate, but they did. Leaving a Supreme Court seat up to the whims of the voters when Trump’s approval remains low is way too risky.

  468. Redmen4ever says:

    Flake betraying conservatives because he hates Trump.

    McCain did that. Now, he’s dead to me.

  469. Phil says:

    Those demands are outrageous. Put them in together of course shouldn’t happen, but that was never going to happen anyway. She gets to speak AFTER he testifies? What bullsh*t! LOL Not happening, lady.

    Oh, and Robbie, your gloom and doom is typical. You don’t seem to have a lick of faith in KAVANAUGH’S testimony. I think he can handle himself just fine and will come off very credible after she goes. You know why? Because he is. Her? When did she say this happened? Oh, she doesn’t know? That’s really powerful. Where did it happen? Oh, you don’t know that either. Tell anyone? No. What about witnesses? Do they support your story? No? Uh, ok. Yeah, that’s powerful presentation. Kavanaugh is toast for sure.

  470. Tina says:

    Report from my friend at the Vegas rally. There are people everywhere, in and out. 95 degree temps.

    The crowd is electric, like 2016. Friend noticed his neighbors there. They did not vote in 2016 but will vote for the President in 2020.

  471. Tina says:

    Byron York
    @ByronYork
    Follow
    But…Team Ford demand on hearing timing–flat-out refusal to appear Monday–could put pressure on committee. To stand firm on Monday date, Grassley needs all his members to be with him. What will Sen. Flake do?
    6:17 PM – 20 Sep 2018

    Looks like flakey is flaking again.

    Amoral scumbag.

  472. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 20, 2018 at 10:25 pm
    Oh, and Robbie, your gloom and doom is typical. You don’t seem to have a lick of faith in KAVANAUGH’S testimony.

    – Phil, I’ve seen this story before. Republicans do not get the benefit of the doubt from ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, or the others. If she speaks, she will be treated as a heroine. Kavanaugh’s comments will not get the same coverage. He will be viewed as a liar and it will be tough for FoxNews to cover for him.

    I don’t, for an instant, believe Kavanaugh did this, but look at the way this has been covered. Outside of FoxNews, the coverage assumes Kavanaugh has done this. Outrageously, the burden of proof has somehow fallen on him to prove that something didn’t happen 36 years ago even though the accuser has offered nothing to suggest it has.

    I have faith in Kavanaugh. I have no faith in Flake, Collins, Murkowski, or Corker.

  473. Hugh says:

    Why does everyone think flake is caving. I have read nowhere that’s the case

  474. Robbie says:

    Hugh says:
    September 20, 2018 at 10:35 pm
    Why does everyone think flake is caving. I have read nowhere that’s the case

    – He said Sunday night he would vote against Kavanaugh had the judiciary committee not given the accuser a chance to tell her story.

    If he still feels that way, I suspect he would also say delay the hearing again to accommodate her.

  475. Tina says:

    There is a report that the R investigators got something very damaging on the accuser, if she shows Monday.

    No extension.

    Stay chill folks, her lawyah is mucking all of this up.

  476. Hugh says:

    So it’s based on Robbie’s conjecture versus what flake has said since Sunday

  477. Bitterlaw says:

    If wanting to delay the vote is the definition of an amoral scumbag, why is Trump not an amoral scumbag? He supported Flake on that move.

  478. Phil says:

    Look, Robbie. I get it. The four you mention are squishes. But what makes you think they aren’t squishes if she doesnt testify?

    I happen to believe you are right that they should give her the opportunity to testify Monday and if she refuses then Flake’s request to speak was honored. She chose not to. Vote.

  479. Bitterlaw says:

    To be fair, I always thought Trump is a s umbrage. It has nothing to with his Presidency.

  480. Robbottie says:

    “If wanting to delay the vote is the definition of an amoral scumbag…”

    It isn’t.

    He has a lower approval than Trump. What more proof do you need?

  481. Bitterlaw says:

    Damn typo. Scumbag

  482. Tina says:

    NV crowd chanting Kavanaughs name,

  483. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 20, 2018 at 10:47 pm
    Look, Robbie. I get it. The four you mention are squishes. But what makes you think they aren’t squishes if she doesnt testify?

    – I think you’re misunderstanding me. If she decides not to testify, they will vote for Kavanaugh.

    What I’m saying is if they feel the committee wasn’t flexible enough with the accuser’s demands, they will throw wrenches into the process.

  484. Tina says:

    Flakey needs a growacet prescription and the 3 Cuckateers need to vote for Kavanaugh.

  485. jason says:

    Republicans do not get the benefit of the doubt from ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, or the others.”

    LOL, from the mouths of scumbags a glimmer of truth sometimes surfaces.

    Amoral Scumbag turns on his favorite news sources.

  486. jason says:

    McCain did that. Now, he’s dead to me.”

    Me too. Brain cancer.

  487. Tina says:

    While trump declassified the Fisa and other documents, it is being delayed a bit because two foreign countries wanted to talk with trump about this.

    My belief it is England and Australia.

  488. Phil says:

    Robbie, I realize there is a fine line. Grassly has to be flexible to an extent, but geez – dictating who can question her and demanding he go first and then she goes? That’s nuts. Doubt even Flakey would expect that….simply because there wouldn’t be much support for that kind of nonsense. Ok, tell her she can testify Tuesday but you don’t give away the farm – you’ll never pacify the left no matter how much you buckle. Of course you only have to pacify the four squishes and even they aren’t going to go along with that ridiculous list of demands.

  489. Dylan says:

    It is stunning that Gillibrand is floated as possible presidential timber. She makes Hillary look reasonable. Oy. the shrillness

  490. Robbottie says:

    “While trump declassified the Fisa and other documents, it is being delayed a bit because two foreign countries wanted to talk with trump about this.”

    I am nervous that it is Russia and Kekistan.

  491. Gpo says:

    Joe DiGenova twice on Fox tonight said the entire PGA is talking about Ford. Can’t wait to hear what that is about

  492. JeffP says:

    I have NEVER been so excited to vote in a mid term. Barely hold House by a few seats …flip 5-6 in Senate.

    #REDWAVE2018

  493. JeffP says:

    #513 WTH was that about? I saw that too.

  494. ssq says:

    “Joe DiGenova twice on Fox tonight said the entire PGA is talking about Ford.”

    She’s a golfer?

  495. NYCmike says:

    “If wanting to delay the vote is the definition of an amoral scumbag, why is Trump not an amoral scumbag?”

    -Trump is.

    But he also has shown himself, in the last 2 years, to be more conservative than HHR’s “amoral scumbag”.

    Next question.

  496. Tina says:

    If he changes the date, it is one week from that date, unless both sides agree.

    It sounds like there is no deal, however.

  497. NYCmike says:

    The way this is going to boomerang, I may jump on dblaikie’s prediction of an increased majority in the House!

    The TRUTH will set some Democratic incumbents free…..from the SWAMP!

  498. Tina says:

    I think Digenova is a Bs-er.

  499. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    36m
    Latest demands from Ford’s team: Bowl of peanut M&Ms, but no blue ones. 14 bottles of Disani water, two A&W Root Beers, and an eggplant A copy of Hollywood Reporter, Hunting Today, and Creepy Perv magazines.
    View details ·

  500. Mr.Vito says:

    I’m calling for an FBI investigation of who hacked the NYTimes twitter feed.

    The New York Times
    ?Verified account @nytimes

    When Trump announced the U.S. would withdraw from the Iran deal, experts feared it would hurt the economy and leave Iran free to restart its nuclear program. But, so far, the policy has been effective without either of those consequences.

  501. Mr.Vito says:

    Maybe they decided to kneecap John Kerry’s 2020 hopes…

  502. Wes says:

    Still no chance Republicans gain seats in the House. Even so, I’m sure House Dems are probably seething because Senate Dems have now energized the GOP base, thus complicating efforts to retake the House.

    Republicans have been nothing but accommodating whereas Ford and Senate Dems have obstructed and obfuscated from the beginning. This means 2018 is significantly more likely to be like 1970 than Robbie’s wet dream of a first-midterm 2006 redux.

  503. Wes says:

    RRHers must be living in Weaveworld*. They’re declaring Dems definitely weren’t conspiring to take Kavanaugh down with their actions.

    Of course this was a Dem plot. They had to spring this to try to stop Kavanaugh on the off chance of defeating the nomination and recapturing the Senate so as to prevent Trump from filling the seat at least through 2021 (assuming his reelection).

    They just grossly mishandled things and ended up undermining their case against him. During this process, Grassley and Republicans have come across as reasonable while Ford and Dems have come across as petulant and petty.

    That’s why I believe Kavanaugh ultimately weathers the storm and becomes a Supreme Court Justice.

  504. JeffP says:

    D Senator Whitehouse is a real tool. Wow…he is so annoying when he opens his mouth and that look on his face…he has a scowl that is stuck on stupid.

  505. dblaikie says:

    519 Nycmike I am still sitting out on that limb all alone. Oh well, I have been out there before. Sometimes I have crashed. Years ago I was stupid enough to be influenced by Polaris. But in 2016 I was one of the first to say that Trump was going to win. For that MD over and over again labeled me the biggest idiot on the face of the planet. So I am happy on that limb. I still believe these polls are politically motivated and that Republican enthusiasm is far more than the media wants us to believe. Call me stupid but I believe that there are districts in California where the rage concerning immigrants is deep and broad. In short I stand by my prediction. The GOP will pick up 4 house seats. Gain at least 3 in the Senate. Now I know that Wes thinks I am nuts. But I like Wes and respect him (unlike his royal highness, the one whose brain is so big and superior to our own that it is miracle his brain doesn’t burst — MD)

    However what will suppress turnout is caving on Kavanaugh. In that sense what happen next week will have bearing on my out there prediction.

  506. Tina says:

    a ??
    @RealSaavedra
    3h
    CNN asks 5 women if they believe Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s denial that he ever engaged in any kind of sexual misconduct with Christine Blasey Ford. All 5 women say they believe him and they have no problem with him being on the Supreme Court. pic.twitter.com/mVKs0PoIgX

  507. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Dr. Ford and The PGA: Joe DiGenova Comment
    Ford’s father managed a very exclusive golf course in the Chevy Chase area during her high school years.
    Supposedly, Ford had a reputation with the golfers.
    This is from the thread in freerepublic so do not accuse me of gossip.

  508. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC can GFH but I am going to say it. Whether Ford was with the entire male population of Kavanaugh’s school or the entire PGA is completely irrelevant to this accusation. Sluts can be assaulted and I hope no GOP Senator even comes close to this story.

  509. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not believe the accusation by Ford. Her past conduct with other men is irrelevant and the GOP should stay far away from it. Both can be true.

  510. Wes says:

    Let’s not undercut Kavanaugh with an “accuse the accuser” defense. Ford made vague accusations missing many key details and has been wary of testifying despite repeated GOP attempts to reach out to and accommodate her.

    That’s enough to undermine her credibility.

    Republicans can only suffer by victim blaming.

  511. Tina says:

    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    13m
    Ford’s lawyer Debra Katz needs a law school refresher – The accuser testifies first – The accused gets to face and question their accuser – The accuser doesn’t set the ground rules for the hearing – The accused is entitled to legal representation End this, #ConfirmKavanaugh
    View details ·

    Maybe, the three Cuckateers need a refresher?

  512. Tina says:

    Ed Wheelan (sp?) may be indirectly helping her case here, He is providing details that may be true, but the “accuser” has not or cannot make.

    Stay far away from the pga claims. No doubt though the R investigators have some dirt on Her.

  513. Messy says:

    456, 534. This is not judicial in any way. This is a job interview. A lifetime job at that.

    525. What’s wrong with that? As long as doing so is within the rules of the senate and the person is credible. Then, there’s Merrit Garland. There was a successful conspiracy to deny a good man a seat on the Court by the Republicans.

  514. Hugh says:

    Messy. They faithfully followed the Biden rule. Payback is helll and dems should remember that

  515. Wes says:

    Messy officially endorses character assassination and putting a person’s life in danger for partisan reasons. He’s the prototypical liberal—a sleazy asswipe.

    For the record, Republicans didn’t assassinate Garland’s character to keep him off the court. That’s radically different from the despicable tactics Dems are employing to try to stop Kavanaugh.

  516. jason says:

    “Then, there’s Merrit Garland..”

    LOL, let’s try to say that is a typo.

    The ignorance is appalling.

  517. Wes says:

    Of course had Mikey and the Tea Party had their way in 2014, Garland would be on the Court now.

  518. mnw says:

    Vegas rally yesterday:

    95 degrees; half-mile line. Almost like…2016?

  519. jason says:

    Headline at Yahoo

    “Relative backs accuser’s claim”.

  520. jason says:

    “Of course had Mikey and the Tea Party had their way in 2014, Garland would be on the Court now”

    Yeah, but it would have sent those RINOS a message!

  521. mnw says:

    Wes

    What’s “Weaveworld*” ?

  522. mnw says:

    DRUDGE:

    RE: Kavanaugh:

    “Poll: Unprecedented Opposition”

    I guess being accused of sex crimes doesn’t help your JA at all. Who knew?

    I guess Trump will just have to throw K under the bus NOW… because poll. /s!

  523. Phil says:

    No, the poll isn’t going to move Trump, but the poll doesn’t help the nomination, mnw.

  524. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina, Wes, and I agree on the PGA issue? I don’t know if we have ever agreed on anything at the same time. Well, once the Eagles won the Suber Bowl, nothing can ever be completely unexpected.

  525. mnw says:

    I don’t think it hurts the nomination in the slightest. Not even a micro hair.

  526. Wes says:

    Mnw, I was in a hurry last night. That’s why I didn’t put the description in.

    Weaveworld is a distorted alternate world fantasy dimension in Clive Barker’s novel of the same name.

  527. jason says:

    Call for a vote NOW. End the charade.

  528. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Phil
    Toupee Cook today moved the TX Senate race from Lean R to Toss-Up. This after a Cruz +9 poll, the 3 NYT/ Siena Congressional polls showing the GOP candidates doing fine and the unexpected State Senate win on Tuesday.
    Even the RRH posters are perplexed.

  529. mnw says:

    49/50

    By comparison, Zero was -19 pts on the same day during his first term*.

    RAS says most LVs perceive the Kavanaugh fight as being “mostly about politics.”

    *Unemployment lowest in 49 years. Stocks (DOW & S&P both) hit all-time record highs yesterday… so everything is just like it was
    under Obama… right?

    Thx, Wes.

  530. Hugh says:

    A few points. I do not believe that 70% of republicans oppose him. Not a chance. Second. If he is not voted in we will lose the senate and we would be lucky to nominate and get Garland in. He’s too moderate. If we vote bk in we likely pick up senate seats but even if we lose the senate we have the court. There is no choice here but victory or defeat

  531. mnw says:

    Sheep 553

    one other thing about TX Sen:

    AND Beto saying on Wed. that “we need illegal aliens to work in cotton gins (!), because AAs won’t work there any longer.”

  532. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    5 more minutes until Cinderella Ford becomes a princess or a pumpkin!

  533. Robbie says:

    If Ed Whelan’s tweetstorm last night was as smart as I was told it was last night, why did he apologize on Twitter this morning for his appalling judgment?

  534. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 20, 2018 at 11:13 pm
    “If wanting to delay the vote is the definition of an amoral scumbag, why is Trump not an amoral scumbag?”
    -Trump is.
    But he also has shown himself, in the last 2 years, to be more conservative than HHR’s “amoral scumbag”.
    Next question

    – LOL. The lengths to which NYCmike will go to defend Trump is amazing.

    I’ve never opposed Trump’s conservative policy goals. I’ve opposed his behavior. Big difference.

  535. mnw says:

    memo to Beto:

    How to get AAs, whites AND Inuits to work in cotton gins: raise wages.

    I know that’s a bizarre suggestion for you & your supporters.

  536. DW says:

    New collection of house polls and note that all but one are campaign internals done for the Democrat. Given that, these results are not that bad, and certainly not indicative of a blue-wave:

    PPP-D*

    FL_25

    Diaz-Balart (R) 41
    Barzee Flores (D) 36

    Most have this Likely R

    FL_18

    Mast (R) 46
    Baer (D) 43

    Most have this Likely R

    FL_26

    Curbelo (R) 45
    Mucarsel-Powell (D) 46

    Most have this tossup or lean R.

    MN_02

    Lewis (R) 45
    Craig (D) 48

    Tossup to Likely D

    Survey USA:

    CA_16

    Heng (R) 40
    Costa (D) 51

    Cook has it likely D, others safe D

    GSG-D*

    NY_01

    Zeldin (R) 47
    Gershon (D) 44

    Most have this as Likely R

    *Democrat campaign internal Poll

  537. jason says:

    I’ve never opposed Trump’s conservative policy goals. I’ve opposed his behavior. Big difference.”

    This is a lie, but even if true, it shows the depth of the TDS.

    Style over substance, always.

  538. Robbie says:

    If he’s hoping to scuttle Kavanaugh’s confirmation, this is a good first step.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    I have no doubt that, if the attack on Dr. Ford was as bad as she says, charges would have been immediately filed with local Law Enforcement Authorities by either her or her loving parents. I ask that she bring those filings forward so that we can learn date, time, and place!

  539. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 21, 2018 at 10:15 am
    I’ve never opposed Trump’s conservative policy goals. I’ve opposed his behavior. Big difference.”
    This is a lie, but even if true, it shows the depth of the TDS.
    Style over substance, always.

    – It’s not a lie, but I wouldn’t expect a total fraud like you to realize that.

    How’s that praise of Ed Whelan working out this morning, fraud?

  540. Robbottie says:

    I am worried that Trump’s latest tweet may be Obstruction.

    Actually, that would be great.

  541. Robbottie says:

    In a fiery tweetstorm, Trump called the Kavanugh accuser “Dr.Ford”.

    What is with this guy and his tantrums?

  542. Messy says:

    Prof. Ford’s demands:

    Ford will not appear any sooner than next Thursday;

    No questions to be asked at hearing by any outside counsel — only senators;

    Mark Judge must be subpoenaed;

    Kavanaugh would testify first, then Ford would testify, and Kavanaugh would have no opportunity to respond or rebut;

    Deadline for her to provide written statement before the hearing would be waived;

    Provide adequate security;

    Only one pool camera in hearing room;

    Ford and Kavanaugh allotted the same amount of time to talk

    I find these all reasonable, especially the security one.

  543. Mr.Vito says:

    “I find these all reasonable”

    Even your honest fellow leftist media types don’t.

  544. jason says:

    Tell her to GFH.

    She should get to make ZERO demands.

    That’s not how it works.

    If Rs agree to this charade they deserve to lose.

    Now just say we don’t accept the demands and let’s vote.

  545. DW says:

    570 – Ford has had months to prepare, and Kavanaugh was just recently blindsided by this accusation, yet Kavanaugh is ready now to testify, and Ford claims she is not. Too bad. Call the vote on Kavanaugh and end this absurdity.

  546. jason says:

    How’s that praise of Ed Whelan working out this morning, fraud?”

    LOL

    Where did I praise Whelan?

    In fact I only mentioned him once, and said he didn’t accuse anyone of sexual assault.

    Amoral Scumbag caught lying again.

  547. Robbottie says:

    Okay, you didn’t praise him, but you mentioned him twice!

    Liar!

  548. jason says:

    None of the demands are reasonable.

    Security is always provided at hearings, so that is a red herring.

    The rest is garbage.

    And of course, there is no way Kavanaugh will testify first, completely off the wall.

    What is he going to testify about if she doesn’t go first with whatever she wants to accuse her with?

  549. Redmen4ever says:

    Messy, shouldn’t Mark Judge be able to negotiate the terms under which he testifies?

  550. DW says:

    updated Dashboard sorted by actual polling:

    Paladin Dashboard Sorted by Polls
    ——————————————————-
    C Dist | R/D | Recent Polling | Gap
    ——————————————————-
    OK_05 – R – 49/35 (Vcreek) | 14
    NY_24 – R – 54/39 (Siena) | 14
    MN_01* – D – 47/33 (Harper) | 11
    UT_04 – R – 48/38 (Lighthouse) | 49/46 (Dan Jones) | 51/42 (Y2) | 10
    CA_22 – R – 48/43 (Tulchin-D) | 50/44 (D-Int) | 9
    MO_02 – R – 51/40 (Rem.) | 9
    PA_16 – R – 50/44 (D-Int) | 9
    AR_02 – R – 47/42 (PPP-D) | 50/41 (Hendrix) | 9
    TX_23 – R – 44/43 (PPP-D) | (49/40 (Siena) | 9
    IA_04 – R – 41/31 (Emerson) |43/37 (D-Int) | 8
    VA_07 – R – 48/39 (Siena) | 8
    IA_03 – R – 47/31 (Emerson) | 43/46 (D-Int) | 8
    CA_39* – R – 45/43 (DCCC-D) | 51/41 (Monmouth) | 8
    FL_25 – R – 46/39 (St. Pete) | 41/36 (PPP-D-Int) | 7
    SC_01 – R – 49/42 (PPP-D) | 7
    MI_07 – R – 41/37 (DCCC-D) | 7
    FL_16 – R – 49/37 (PPP-D) | 48/44 (D-Int) | 7
    PA_01 – R – 49/42 | 7
    IL_12 – R – 44/39 (PPP-D) |44/37 (Siena) | 7
    TX_31 – R – 46/40 (PPP-D) | 6
    TX_21* – R – 33/27 (Chg Res.) | 6
    FL_18 – R – 46/43 (PPP-D-Int) | 6
    NY_01 – R – 47/44 (D-Int) | 6
    WI_01* – R – 50/44 (Siena) | 6
    WA_05 – R – 44/38 (elway) | 6
    VA_02 – R – 48/42 (PPP-D) | 6
    MI_08 – R – 45/39 (Target Ins) | 6
    WA_08* – R – 51/45 (GBA) | 6
    WA_03 – R – 42/37 (Lake R.) | 5
    GA_06* – R – 49/47 (D-Inc) | 5
    WV_03* – R – 41/43 (Monm.) |48/37 (Siena) | 31/36 (Emerson) | 5
    NM_02* – R – 49/35 (Carroll) | 48/41 (Res.&Poll.) |45/46 (Siena) | 5
    ME_02 – R – 40/39 (D-Int) | 46/40 (Siena) | 5
    AK_01 – R – 40/36 (Lake Res.) | 4
    FL_06* – R – 47/46 (D-Int) | 48/43 (St. Pete) | 4
    MI_06 – R – 49/44 (GSG-D) |45/41 (PPP-D) | 4
    IL_14 – R – 45/41 (PPP-D) | 4
    OH_12 – R – 48/44 (PPP-D) | 47/46 (D-Int) | 4
    TX_07 – R – 47/45 (D-Int.) | 48/45 (Siena) | 4
    FL_27* – R – 51/42 (R-Int) | 42/46 (D-Int) | 4
    FL_15* – R – 47/48 (Dem. Corp-D) | 3
    CA_50 – R – 47/39 (SUSA) | 46/46 (Tulchin-D) | 3
    IL_13 – R – 45/42 (PPP-D) | 3
    NC_13 – R – 40/35 (Civitas) | 42/46 (D-Int) | 3
    FL_26 – R – 48/41 (DCCC-D) | 47/44 (Siena) | 45/46 (PPP-D-Int) | 3
    CA_10 – R – 48/48 (GHY-D) | 3
    TX_32 – R – 47/45 (GBA) | 2
    IL_06 – R – 44/37 (Victory Res.) | 39/40 (Siena) | 44/47 (D-Int) | 2
    NC_09* – R – 43/44 (D-Int) | 2
    GA_07 – R – 44/46 (Tulchin-D) | 1
    NC_02 – R – 44/45 (GQR-D) | 43/44 (SUSA) | 1
    OH_01 – R – 43/42 (PPP-D) | 44/46 (D-Int) | 1
    MN_08* – D – 43/42 (Siena) | 1
    NY_19 – R – 49/44 (IMGE) |45/40 (Siena) | 43/45 (Monmouth) | 1
    ——–Democrats need ALL the below for control——-
    KY_06 – R – 49/45 (FLA-R) |48/43 Siena |43/50 (D-Int) | 1
    KS_03 – R – 43/46 (GSG-D) | 0
    CA_45 – R – 45/44 (D-Int) | 46/49 (D-Int) | 0
    CA_25 – R – 47/47 (IMGE) | 0
    MN_02 – R – 46/45 (R-Int) |45/48 (PPP-D-Int) | 0
    CA_49* – R – 46/43 (R-Int) | 0
    NJ_05 – D – 39/36 (R-Int) | 0
    KS_02* – R – 34/39 (Mellman-D) | 44/45 (Siena) | -1
    FL_07 – D – 46/47 (St. Pete) | -1
    NJ_07 – R – 45/47 (GQR-D) | 43/46 (Monmouth) | -2
    NY_22 – R – 44/46 (Siena) | -2
    PA_07* – R – 45/47 (Monmouth) | -2
    NJ_11* – R – 38/40 (Monmouth) | -2
    MI_11* – R – 42/45 (PPP-D) | -3
    NV_04* – D – 41/41 (R-Int) | -3
    CA_24 – D – 46/47 (Olive Tree St.) | -4
    IA_01 – R – 38/43 (Emerson) | -5
    MT_01 – R – 43/49 (Gravis) | -6
    CA_48 – R – 45/47 (Monm.) |39/46 (Siena) | -7
    CA_07 – D – 41/50 (POS) | -9
    VA_10 – R – 39/49 (Monm.) | -10
    MN_03 – R – 40/50 (Siena) | 39/52 (PPP-D) | -11
    PA_17 – R – 39/51 (Monm.) | -12
    CO_06 – R – (45/45 IMGE) | 38/52 (Siena) | -14
    NJ_02* – R – 39/44 (PPP-D) | 32/55 (Stockton U) | -14

  551. jason says:

    Okay, you didn’t praise him, but you mentioned him twice!

    Liar!”

    You are right. Guilty.

  552. DW says:

    “What is he going to testify about if she doesn’t go first with whatever she wants to accuse her with?”

    Of course. These ‘demands’ should be laughed at, not considered.

  553. Robbie says:

    The silence we’ve heard since the accuser’s demands were made suggest to me both sides are still negotiating and that appears to be the case.

    And now, it looks like Republicans may be ready to grant several of her demands. Unreal.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/21/politics/brett-kavanaugh-nomination-state-of-play/index.html

  554. mnw says:

    I’m stopped at square one by her assumption that SHE gets to set conditions on how the U.S. Senate conducts its business. How DARE she?

    This should be the end of it. Hrg Monday, as scheduled.

    I doubt the GOP can be rolled at this point. God help them if they try to negotiate on the basis of her demands.

  555. Robbie says:

    Way to go, Ed Whelan. Way to go.

    Greg Sargent
    @ThePlumLineGS

    Democrats are likely to question Kavanaugh directly at the upcoming hearing about whether he knew about or was involved in Ed Whelan’s strategy of publicly blaming someone else for the attack on Christine Ford, senior aides tell me.

  556. Robbottie says:

    The Republicans may actually grant her demand of security. WTF?

  557. Robbottie says:

    Ed Whelan better reimburse me for my trip to Walgreens this morning for Maalox, bourbon, and a Xa.nax refill.

  558. Messy says:

    570. then after the Dems take the House, they hold impeachment hearings on the subject. If there’s a delay by…three day, so what? The GOP held the Scalia seat open over a year.

  559. mnw says:

    Newt Gingrich has an intriguing analysis of the TX special election for state senate last Tues. Everything he says sounds right to me. I lost interest in him after he resigned as Speaker, but I’ve always respected him as a political strategist & tactician.

    Writing of lessons implied by the the TX special, Gingrich recommends running on 6 or so “big issues,” which he lists: border security, with MS-13 as the alternative; work v. welfare; etc.

    The GOP winner in TX apparently raised every issue Gingrich mentions, & did an unbelievable amount of one-on-one campaigning, as well.

  560. jason says:

    If there’s a delay by…three day, so what? The GOP held the Scalia seat open over a year.”

    This is not like apples and oranges.

    More like a grape and a 100lb pumpkin.

  561. jason says:

    Newt Gingrich’s expiration date has passed.

  562. jason says:

    That “assessment” is from CNN, so take it with a grain of salt.

    However, I just find it appalling the GOP is actually “negotiating” with this woman.

    Unbelievable.

  563. jason says:

    Some leftist hack comes out of the clear blue with a wild and obviously politically based accusation that has no place, time or date.

    No witnesses, except two that say she is lying.

    And she brings the whole process to a halt, and the GOP then agrees to “negotiate” with her?

    Just pathetic.

  564. Redmen4ever says:

    On a serious note, just like Democrats want to overthrow the 1st, 2nd, 4th and 5th amendments, they want to overthrow the 6th.

    The justification for overthrowing the 6th amendment is because certain people are traumatized and need to be protected from harsh interrogation. In the present case, a victim, she believes, of attempted rape. But also children who accuse their parents of abuse and neglect, whose memories are “recovered” by therapists. In general, people who have victim status. There’s probably a list somewhere of all the categories and how to rank one against another as when a lesbian makes an accusation of a tranny. This is why the Democrats on the committee explicitly state that they want jurists who have a finger on the scales of justice.

    In the present case, the accuser claims to have been, and continues to be traumatized by the incident she alleges. This trauma explains both why she didn’t report the incident in real time and why she needs special accommodation to come forward today.

    The problem with the trauma condition is that it makes a person an unreliable witness. (Ironically, some of Professor Ford’s own work speaks to this.)

    This is why it is very important to treat women and other victims who come forward with respect and confidentiality until and unless probable cause can be established. We want to protect them while maintaining due process, and only subject them to the risk of cross-examination if this serves a purpose.

    If we have only one report of sexual misconduct, and cannot corroborate it, we generally file the report and keep it confidential. Perhaps there will be subsequent reports by others. Perhaps physical evidence and third-party eye witnesses will develop. You can’t know any of this in advance. No matter how many come forward in the future, somebody has to be first.

    Now, I’ll speak to statutes of limitation: first degree murder, forcible rape, kidnapping and other such crimes often do not have statutes of limitation. Other crimes of assault and property crimes almost always have statutes of limitation, roughly proportional to the seriousness of the matter. There are very good reasons for this (see Epstein, Simple Rules for a Complex World, for a discussion of such basic elements of our law). No social purpose is/would be served by prosecuting long past, non-capital offenses, and a lot of cost, including emotion, is/would be spent on such efforts.

  565. jason says:

    I doubt the GOP can be rolled at this point. God help them if they try to negotiate on the basis of her demands.”

    I don’t doubt it because they should have rejected her demands immediately.

    The fact they haven’t means they are somehow negotiating with this despicable woman.

    I hope sanity prevails, but won’t bet on it.

  566. mnw says:

    If the GOP delays the Mon. her, after calling it a firm deadline, then the will lose all credibility.

    Luntz said yesterday that the K controversy “could be poison” for DEMs in midterms, fwiw.

  567. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 21, 2018 at 10:59 am
    That “assessment” is from CNN, so take it with a grain of salt.
    However, I just find it appalling the GOP is actually “negotiating” with this woman.
    Unbelievable.

    – Almost certainly, we’re going to find the usual suspects (Flake, Collins, and a few others) were the driving force behind capitulating and caving to the accuser and her unverified allegations.

  568. jason says:

    Also, I am afraid that the GOP senators will be afraid to tear into this lying dirtbag, because of all the MSM hype about “white men” and “bullying”.

    I hope at least one of them has some balls.

  569. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    September 21, 2018 at 11:08 am
    If the GOP delays the Mon. her, after calling it a firm deadline, then the will lose all credibility.

    – I agree completely with mnw. If you draw a red line, don’t cross it.

    And if crossing the red line eventually leads to Kavanaugh’s defeat, the demoralization within the party will be widespread.

  570. mnw says:

    592 sb “Mon. hrg”

    I disagree that “they should have rejected her demands immediately,” assuming that means the GOP should have denied her an opportunity to testify at all.

  571. jason says:

    Luntz was on national TV at 7 PM on election night declaring the election over and Hillary winning in a landslide.

    It’s not worth a damm thing.

  572. jason says:

    I disagree that “they should have rejected her demands immediately,” assuming that means the GOP should have denied her an opportunity to testify at all.”

    It’s not what it means at all.

    They scheduled a hearing on Monday. She can come or not come, she has the opportunity.

    But she doesn’t get to make any demands. None. Zero.

  573. jason says:

    She wants to have the allegations aired but she wants to decide how to air them.

    And the Senate of the United States accepts that?

    We have become a banana republic.

  574. BayernFan says:

    Man that Whelan guy is gonna get sued big time.

  575. jason says:

    Frank Luntz
    ?Verified account @FrankLuntz

    In case I wasn’t clear enough from my previous tweets:

    Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States. #ElectionNight
    3:43 PM – 8 Nov 2016 from Manhattan, NY

  576. dblaikie says:

    As far as anything concerning the Trump Presidency CNN has lost all credibility. And that includes their bogus poll of ADULTS concerning Kavanaugh. Their idiotic sample has more independents than Republicans. What a joke.

  577. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    September 21, 2018 at 11:19 am
    Man that Whelan guy is gonna get sued big time.

    – Yep and he knows it too.

  578. jason says:

    Man that Whelan guy is gonna get sued big time.”

    Not so sure. I believe (could be wrong) that he presented it as a hypothesis, not as fact. Like here is an alternative explanation. He didn’t actually accuse anyone of sexual assault. Yeah, he caused the guy’s name to become involved in the case but I am not sure that is libel.

    But I will let the attorneys here opine on that.

  579. mnw says:

    Let’s just ignore Gingrich & Luntz because they haven’t always been right.

    There may have been some pollster or prominent political analyst who thought Trump would be the next president, at 4pm on election day, but I didn’t, & I don’t recall anybody else here predicting that.

    jason apparently nailed it, though. /s

  580. jason says:

    Fortunately very few, even here, ran with the Whelan story. It was more of an Internet rumor, very little of it in the MSM.

  581. jason says:

    jason apparently nailed it, though.”

    Zzzzz…

    Actually I did give Trump a chance of winning and in fact “only” missed PA, WI and MI, I gave him every other state he won.

    I was closer than Luntz with all his polling expertise and focus groups.

    So why don’t you go jump in a lake after you GFY.

  582. Robbie says:

    Whelan’s mistake was using the person’s name. Huge mistake and he’s going to pay for it. If the person was in on it, that’s different, but that doesn’t appear to be the case.

  583. jason says:

    “Let’s just ignore Gingrich & Luntz because they haven’t always been right.”

    I make it a point of ignoring Gingrich. I used to be a great fan, but that was over 20 years ago. I think he should have retired from politics and commentary long ago.

    Luntz does a great impersonation of a jackass every time he is on TV. Feel free to be impressed. I am not.

  584. BayernFan says:

    Drudge has had it linked since yesterday. It still is.

  585. Redmen4ever says:

    Wasn’t this an episode of Perry Mason.

    Mason: And, Miss Ford, at the top of the staircase you say there was a bathroom. Would you look at the chart labelled Exhibit N., a diagram of the aforementioned home near the country club. Would you identify the room pointed out by my assistant, Miss Della Street.

    Ford: mumbles something.

    Mason: Would you speak up, Miss Ford, or must I have the judge direct you to speak up.

    Ford: It’s a bathroom.

    Man in the gallery: I did it! I did it! I just thought, after thirty-seven years, I had gotten away with it. I was just 17. I was drunk. I didn’t mean to hurt anybody. Not Professor Ford. Not my friend Brett. I’m sorry. I’m sorry.

    cue the music.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA9t1nSGXXE

  586. jason says:

    “Whelan’s mistake was using the person’s name.”

    It was a mistake, but that doesn’t mean he is legally liable in any big way. I think you have to prove malice to prevail.

    But again, I didn’t follow what he actually published, just the accounts on Instapundit.

  587. Robbottie says:

    Dean Heller totally licked Trump’s taint last night.

    I’m running out of Republicans to throw under the bus.

    Maybe I’ll run over Flake and Cocaine Mitch a couple more timse.

  588. Robbie says:

    Considering the accuser can’t say when or where the supposed assault took place, the possibility of mistaken identity is reasonable. However, Whelan’s tweetstorm did a lot to hurt that line of questioning.

  589. jason says:

    “There may have been some pollster or prominent political analyst who thought Trump would be the next president, at 4pm on election day, but I didn’t, & I don’t recall anybody else here predicting that.”

    mnw making excuses for Frank Luntz’s idiocies on election night is hilarious. He was more than just wrong on the result, he used up all his time on the networks to attack Rs and Trump.

    Watch this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-a_AlwHUas

  590. lisab says:

    Bert and Ernie are not gay?

    lisab hardest hit. She can still hold out hope for the Teletubbies.
    —————————-

    i just said there were rumors they were gay

    i did not think they were gay

    they are puppets

  591. Robbie says:

    But his tweets are so great.

    Burgess Everett
    @burgessev

    After Trump tweets, Republicans now expected to make more concessions to Dr. Ford’s requests for hearings next week: “People will go out of their way now to be much more accommodating to unreasonable requests”

  592. Robbottie says:

    I was the source.

  593. Robbie says:

    This is just too much capitulation. Monday or nothing.

    Garrett Haake
    @GarrettHaake

    Judiciary Commitee will make a counter offer to Dr. Ford: hearing on Wednesday, she goes first, committee gets to bring in an outside lawyer and no additional witnesses. The rest of her requests (on safety, TV pool, etc) will be accommodated, a GOP senator tells me

  594. Robbottie says:

    Told you. Trump’s tweet got them to cave on the TV pool.

  595. lisab says:

    Ed Whelan better reimburse me for my trip to Walgreens this morning for Maalox, bourbon, and a Xa.nax refill.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDRrjFjJ9fI

  596. Robbottie says:

    The tweet was so bad, the GOP forgot Thursday was the day they were supposed to cave in on and moved it back a day.

    This administration is in total chaos.

  597. lisab says:

    there is nothing wrong with having her testify on wednesday

    actually, every day makes it look more like a political hit and riles up the gop base

    wednesday would actually be perfect, so they could vote on friday and the dems would lose the news cycle

  598. DW says:

    My current outlook on the House:

    Dems need to flip 23 seats in the house to gain control. Here is my current expectation, of course subject to change as we have just over 6 weeks to go:

    Flips from R to D: PA_05, PA_06, NJ_02, PA_17, CA_49, VA_10, AZ_02, PA_07, IA_01, CO_06, MN_03, CA_48, KS_03, NJ_07 + 3 others and 3 surprises = 20 flips
    Flips from D to R: PA_14, MN_01, MN_08 + 1 surprise = 4 flips

    Net = D+16

    Dems 7 short of capturing control.

    I thought about leaving VA_10 as a hold, but didn’t want to spend the rest of the day interacting with my good friend Wes.

  599. lisab says:

    the danger of thursday is the dems would want the vote delayed to the next monday (or forever)

    and would hammer the news cycle all the next week

  600. lisab says:

    DW,

    i do not dispute any of your picks

    but you do understand that would be a DISASTER for the dems?

    that cannot happen. they HAVE TO take the house. if they have to accuse trump of sleeping with dead boy, they have to take the house

  601. mnw says:

    If I were Grassley & his bunch, I would NOT let this hang fire over the weekend. I would definitively resolve next week’s schedule by COB today.

    If that means “We go as scheduled Monday,” then so be it. If there’s going to be a further delay, announce it today. “She has agreed to proceed in this way [specify way], & so the hrg will be on Wed.”

  602. Bitterlaw says:

    DW – Do not give up on PA5 yet. The Dems are running a middle aged white leftist woman. The Republicans are running a young Korean-American woman with immigrant parents who prosecuted those who preyed on children.

  603. Waingro says:

    Ok, this guy is done. And rightfully so.

    Michael S. Schmidt
    ?Verified account @nytmike

    EXCLUSIVE: Rosenstein discussed invoking the 25th Amendment to oust Trump in the days after Comey was fired in May 2017. Rosenstein also discussed wearing a wire to secretly record his conversations with Trump. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/us/politics/rod-rosenstein-wear-wire-25th-amendment.html … w/@adamgoldmanNYT

  604. lisab says:

    Rosenstein Suggested He Secretly Record Trump and Discussed 25th Amendment

  605. Todd McCain says:

    Fire him after the election.

  606. lisab says:

    i think as the fisa stuff comes out

    it will get very embarrassing for the fbi

  607. Waingro says:

    This is not much of a push back. He’s not saying the story is a flat out lie. Fire him.

    Gabriel Malor Retweeted
    Jim Acosta
    ?Verified account @Acosta
    5m5 minutes ago

    Rosenstein pushing back on NYT report saying it is “inaccurate and factually incorrect,” our @LauraAJarrett reporting. WH not commenting for now.
    25 replies 61 retweets 90 likes

  608. lisab says:

    “Everything You Know About Obesity Is Wrong
    For decades, the medical community has ignored mountains of evidence to wage a cruel and futile war on fat people, poisoning public perception and ruining millions of lives.”

    great news for bitterlaw

  609. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Here is today’s Washington Post article on the No. Dakota Senate race.
    The important sentence is the last one.

    . North Dakota (D), previous ranking 4: Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D) is now Senate Democrats’ most vulnerable incumbent. While she is generally a well-liked politician, North Dakota may be too Republican a state for her to survive. There, Republicans have their top recruit, Rep. Kevin Cramer (R), who knows how to run a statewide campaign since North Dakota only has one congressional district. Private Republican polls show Cramer leading in the high single digits.

  610. lisab says:

    Rep. Devin Nunes tells Fox News unredacted FISA documents will show Obama DOJ tried to use Carter Page FISA to obtain Trump campaign strategies

  611. Robbottie says:

    Damn you, Rosenstein.

    It was in the bag.

  612. mnw says:

    Sheep 635

    Hmmm… I know ANOTHER state that is also very Republican (Trump +17)… where Republicans ALSO “have their top recruit”… “who ALSO knows how to run a statewide campaign” because he won one alrelly!*

    Guess who I am?

    * “Back to back,
    Belly to belly,
    Well I don’t give a damn
    ‘Cause I done that alrelly”

  613. NYCmike says:

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/marine-le-pen-sovietization-of-france/

    -Sharing factual evidence is now reason for being forced to undergo psychiatric testing??

  614. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Senate made a reasonable counter-offer to Ford. Ford should testify first. There should be outside counsel allowed; the Senate needs to have someone well versed in this type of law present. Likewise, Kavanaugh has a right to hear what he is accused of before responding to it. Neither of these issues are negotiable.

    The Senate Republicans bent over backward to try and accommodate Ford; but instead of a fair hearing what she wants is a circus. Time for a vote; if Kavanaugh losses the issue needs to be taken to the voters in the mid-term elections. Do you want a nation that is governed by the rule of law, our a socialist circus functioning like Venezuela?

  615. CG says:

    So, whatever the Failing New York Times says about Donald Trump is a lie but whatever they say about Rod Rosenstein is the truth.

    Got it.

  616. lisab says:

    CNN Brings On Friend Of Kavanaugh’s Accuser Who Admits Never Hearing About Alleged Kavanaugh Assault

  617. Mr.Vito says:

    Burgess Everett
    ?Verified account @burgessev

    Dr. Ford has indicated to Republicans she doesn’t want to fly, in part revealing why she doesn’t want the hearing to be on Monday

    ………………………….

    She will be walking and carrying a cross.

  618. Bio mom says:

    Per Politico, The accuser does not want to have to fly to D.C. and therefore would have to drive and could not attend before Thursday?! If true, this gal is a nutcase. Please stop this farce now!

  619. Robbottie says:

    “So, whatever the Failing New York Times says about Donald Trump is a lie but whatever they say about Rod Rosenstein is the truth.

    Got it.”

    I think it’s the opposite.

  620. lisab says:

    well the nytimes has no reason to lie about rosenstein

  621. Todd McCain says:

    She doesn’t want to fly? This is getting to be absolutely ridiculous.

  622. Robbottie says:

    Meet at O’Hare, CG. We can cry in our soy lattes.

  623. dblaikie says:

    I am no fan of Rod Rosenstein but I trust the NYT even less. The idea that man who just wrote a damning memo against Comey would want to invoke the 25th Amendment because of Trump’s behavior with Comey is silly.

    What this article tells us is that Rosenstien is too involved with this bogus stuff and needs to recuse himself or better yet resign.

  624. lisab says:

    rumor has it that they have the votes to confirm kavanaugh and the nytimes is trying to get trump to fire rosenstein to throw things into turmoil

  625. lisab says:

    She doesn’t want to fly? This is getting to be absolutely ridiculous.
    ———————–

    have you flown united recently?

  626. Mr.Vito says:

    I wouldn’t want to fly either. Have you seen the cell phone videos? She might get groped, beaten, or verbally assaulted.

  627. Mr.Vito says:

    652 Ha! YYYYYES!

  628. Mr.Vito says:

    Will she do it if Loretta Lynch meets her on the tarmac?

    ….

    ….

    NO, NO! WITHOUT BILL! WITHOUT BILL!

  629. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “She doesn’t want to fly? This is getting to be absolutely ridiculous.”

    This has gone far enough to show Ford is a loon. Time to end the discussion and vote on the nomination.

    If she drove, would expect her car to break down near someplace like Wichita. The mental stress it would cause, and rude, sexist gas station mechanic, would require at least another two week delay.

  630. Robbie says:

    Looks like Andrew McCabe is trying to exact his pound of flesh from the Justice Department for his firing.

    Could Rosenstein have been the one who wrote the NYT op-ed?

  631. lisab says:

    cnn interviewed 5 democrat women and all of them said they believed kavanaugh

    the dems must be getting nervous because there is no way they would allow cnn to show that, or ford’s friend to say she never heard anything about it.

    i think the dems may be getting ready to pull the plug on ford …

    they can NOT let her testify if she does not come across as credible. it is better to leave the questions unanswered so they can pound the table and say the republicans are meanies

  632. dblaikie says:

    I wonder if she flew out to Hawaii. Or did she take the long cruise to Oahu?

  633. Mr.Vito says:

    “If she drove, would expect her car to break down near someplace like Wichita. The mental stress it would cause, and rude, sexist gas station mechanic, would require at least another two week delay.”

    Steve Martin and John Candy will have her there in time for Thanksgiving.

  634. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    652. “She doesn’t want to fly? This is getting to be absolutely ridiculous.
    ———————–
    have you flown united recently?”

    Am sure some liberal tech billionaire in the Bay Area would offer to fly her in his private jet.

    I was all in favor of attempting to negotiate with Ford; but at this point any further attempt to do so would make the Republicans look stupid.

  635. Mr.Vito says:

    “Am sure some liberal tech billionaire in the Bay Area would offer to fly her in his private jet.”

    That’s even scarier.

  636. dblaikie says:

    Let’s get real. Senate investigators have probably interviewed lots of people who were friends of these two back in high school. They have heard testimony about lots of parties and how they behaved at those parties. I believe what this investigation is going to find is going blow this case wide open. Patterns will be revealed.

  637. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “cnn interviewed 5 democrat women and all of them said they believed kavanaugh”

    Yes, but do those five women fly in airplanes? If so, then they don’t count.

    Where is Messy? He needs to come and defend Ford; he is probably the only troll at this point senseless enough to do it.

  638. lisab says:

    i think they already know dr ford has a past …

    but slut shaming would be the worst thing the gop could do

  639. Mr.Vito says:

    Rosie O’Donnell calls on senior GOP politicians to retire: ‘We don’t let the 85 year olds carve the turkey’

    What to make of this?
    A) She is calling Dr.Ford a “turkey”?
    B) She forgot Feinstein is also 85?
    C) She is advocating for Ginsburg to retire?
    D) She doesn’t plan on sharing any turkey?

  640. lisab says:

    Hungary Bans Gender Studies From Universities

    “There is no economic rationale for studies such as these.”

  641. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    ““Am sure some liberal tech billionaire in the Bay Area would offer to fly her in his private jet.”

    That’s even scarier.”

    Gloria Allred could accompany her to protect her. She would sue if there was anything improper, real or imagined.

  642. lisab says:

    cnn breaking:

    caitlyn jenner accuses a man named “bruce” of fondling her for deacdes

  643. dblaikie says:

    After reading about the Macabe memos I can’t believe that the NYT just cooked the Deputy Attorney General. If this is just half true Trump will have the cover to fire his butt. The NYT just gave huge credibility to the President claims of the deep state.

  644. Mr.Vito says:

    “Trump had asked him to summarize the reasons he could use for firing Comey; Rosenstein reportedly never expected his response to be made public.

    As a result, Rosenstein began recruiting Cabinet members to execute on a future 25th Amendment plan and suggesting that FBI officials who were on Trump’s short list to replace Comey could make clandestine tapes of their job interviews with Trump.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6194563/Rod-Rosenstein-denies-discussing-recording-Trump-chaotic-rants-make-case-removing-him.html

    Hmmm…

    Wasn’t Mueller interviewed?

  645. Messy says:

    630. he said that sarcastically according to all reports.

    665. That’s what the GOP does best. They spent most of 1998 and ’99 doing that. Many (I’m not saying anyone here) hate women so much that they’re in favor of cervical cancer.https://www.theguardian.com/science/blog/2016/jan/11/why-is-there-opposition-hpv-vaccine-cervical-cancer

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4708146/

  646. lisab says:

    he said that sarcastically according to all reports.
    ——————————

    not according to the nytimes.

  647. Mr.Vito says:

    nor McCabe

  648. lisab says:

    this is why trump’s message that “you cannot put these people back in power” is getting crowds

  649. dblaikie says:

    I never thought that I would see it, but the circular firing squad (something Republicans are experts in) is beginning with the deep state. It appears that the Trolls true friend, Chuckie Shummer, is getting scared. This is fun to read, yet sad:

    Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, a New York Democrat, laid down a marker on Friday, warning the president in a statement not to leverage the Times story as a rationale for jettisoning Rosenstein.

    Trump has long loathed Rosenstein for appointing Special Counsel Robrt Mueller after the Sessions recusal.

    ‘This story must not be used as a pretext for the corrupt purpose of firing Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein in order install an official who will allow the president to interfere with the Special Counsel’s investigation,’ Schumer said.

  650. dblaikie says:

    If the administration is smart, they won’t fire Rosenstein, but put him on “Administrative Leave” while the serious allegations are investigated. By the way, does this stuff burn Sessions?

  651. jason says:

    “So, whatever the Failing New York Times says about Donald Trump is a lie but whatever they say about Rod Rosenstein is the truth.”

    LOL

    So you are saying the NYT doesn’t have an incentive to lie about Trump and an interest in defending Rosenstein?

    The only reason the NYT divulged this is because they probably knew it was going to be blown open anyway.

  652. jason says:

    Rosenstein pushing back on NYT report saying it is “inaccurate and factually incorrect,”

    Wow.

    Pass the popcorn.

  653. GF says:

    660- Clearly, there was just a misunderstanding at the party. The future judge Kavanugh merely thought his hand was between two pillows…

    “Those aren’t pillows!”

  654. jason says:

    Where is Messy? He needs to come ..”

    Messy had a sex change operation?

    Who knew?

    Could be our first transgender poster.

  655. jason says:

    Maybe Amoral Scumbag can take her in his crop duster.

    It’s not really “flying”.

  656. mnw says:

    Well, the substance is still the same old drizzly Ebola as always, but at least I taught three iii’s to spell “sarcastically” correctly.

  657. jason says:

    If this is true Rosenstein should be fired immediately.

    I assume even Corey would agree.

  658. Mr.Vito says:

    680 YYYYES!!

    Two in one day!

  659. Wes says:

    Messy, unless Bill Clinton has a secret sex change into Belinda in the 1990s, Republicans didn’t go after women at all in 1997 and 1998. He was their target.

    They picked the wrong strategy and tactics though and lost to him at every turn.

  660. Diamond Jim says:

    “You’re going the wrong way!!!”

  661. jason says:

    I am sure the MSM and the Dems will be jumping right on this..

    Ellison [D-MN] accuser’s doctor corroborates abuse claims

  662. mnw says:

    The NYT story isn’t sourced, & Rosenstein has denied it. I don’t see how firing Rosenstein would be any different today than it would’ve been yesterday.

  663. lisab says:

    rumor is they have the votes and are going to push kavanaugh through

    for him to be on the court in october

    (fears that if they don’t the senate could fall)

  664. dblaikie says:

    The story is now source. Mcabe’s lawyer confirms the memos were the source for the Times. Boom!!!!

  665. Mr.Vito says:

    Diamond Jim is drunk. How would he know which way we’re going?

  666. jason says:

    They could rent a bus, put a banner on it, and people could line the towns cheering for the poor victim all the way from CA to DC.

    Of course, while protecting her privacy.

  667. jason says:

    What’s in it for McCabe?

    Is he mad they fired him?

  668. Mr.Vito says:

    It may be time for Admiral Ackbar to make an appearance.

  669. lisab says:

    “You’ve watched the fight. You’ve watched the tactics, But here’s what I want to tell you: In the very near future, Judge Kavanaugh will be on the United States Supreme Court… Don’t get rattled by all of this. We’re gonna plow right through it and do our job.” marco rubio

  670. DW says:

    She doesn’t want to fly to DC?

    What’s the next demand, move DC to her? This is beyond absurd.

  671. jason says:

    Rubio didn’t say that. It was McConnell.

  672. lisab says:

    “Sorry. If some innocent men’s reputations have to take a hit in the process of undoing the patriarchy, that is a price I am absolutely willing to pay.”

  673. Diamond Jim says:

    DCC

  674. jason says:

    Liar pants on fire….

    “The National Rifle Association demanded Phil Bredesen, the Democratic nominee in the 2018 Tennessee Senate race, retract an ad touting an outdated rating from the organization.

    “Phil Bredesen is a ‘D’ rated candidate, and he will not protect our constitutional rights in Washington, D.C.,” Chris W. Cox, chairman of the NRA’s Political Victory Fund, said in a statement. “Tennesseans should not be fooled by his false and misleading campaign ads.”

    The gun-rights group called on Bredesen to retract the ad he posted yesterday touting his A rating from his time as governor.”

  675. lisab says:

    Rubio didn’t say that. It was McConnell.
    —————————————–

    true, but wobbles will hate it more if it was rubio

  676. lisab says:

    Brian Krassenstein

    There are 400,000 Americans in 900 Cities ready to take the streets should Rosenstein be fired.

    Go ahead Trump, make our day!

  677. DW says:

    Hopefully we get the best outcome. Kavanaugh gets on the SCOTUS, and GOP voters are so outraged at what the Dems tried to do that they will crawl over broken glass to get to the polls.

  678. Wobbles says:

    Lord Arsehat says Kavanaugh will not be confirmed and will be extradited to England on sex charges.

  679. lisab says:

    $209,987 of $175,000 goal

    Cover Dr. Blasey’s security costs

    https://www.gofundme.com/to-cover-dr-fords-security-costs

  680. Redmen4ever says:

    Senator Feinstein should have had somebody interview this person before betraying the person’s request for confidentiality. Feinstein should apologize to the person and to Judge K., allow somebody else to serve as Ranking Member on the committee, and withdraw from the Senate race in California.

  681. jason says:

    That’s only about 445 persons per city.

    That’s all they have?

  682. NYCmike says:

    That is NOT a good picture of her! YIKES!

  683. Redmen4ever says:

    If the Kwickie Marts and liquor stores have been re-stocked, reporting out the Kavanaugh nomination is as good a reason as any for the next Democrat riot.

  684. NYCmike says:

    She looks like a female Epstein from Welcome Back Kotter!

  685. jason says:

    It’s 200k that won’t be used on congressional candidates I guess.

  686. lisab says:

    it is over …

    kavanaugh has decided to identify as a woman

    so now we have to believe her

  687. lisab says:

    It’s 200k that won’t be used on congressional candidates I guess.
    ———————–

    there are actually a few other gofundmes for her

    the total is about $350k

  688. DW says:

    Trump approval down to just -5 on IPSOS

  689. jason says:

    Here is the offer:

    “The Senate Judiciary Committee is giving Christine Blasey Ford attorney’s until the end of the day Friday to work out terms of next week’s proposed hearing on Ford’s allegations that Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her, according to a Republican senator.

    Senate GOP is offering to hold the hearing on Wednesday after Ford asked for a Thursday hearing and is meeting some of Ford’s requests but not others, the senator said.

    “We’ll do it on Wednesday, we expect the accuser before the accused and we do intend to have the counsel do the questioning,” the senator said, summing up the Republicans’ stance. The party is OK with limiting the hearing to one camera as requested by Ford and has also “acquiesced” to Ford’s request that Kavanaugh not be in the same room as her, the senator said.

    GOP members of the Judiciary Committee held a conference call on Friday morning to discuss how to respond to Ford’s requests on Thursday. And barring new revelations, the party plans to vote on Kavanaugh’s nomination in Judiciary Committee shortly after hearing her testimony next week”

  690. jason says:

    I hate the counsel doing the question thing.

    I think that’s a huge mistake.

  691. Phil says:

    The Republicans are afraid of their own shadow. Pathetic.

  692. Wes says:

    I have no problem with it, Jason. The Senators just tell the counsel what to ask and sit back and watch.

    As for the rest, Grassley has compromised quite a bit. It’s time for Ford to compromise with the committee. If she can’t Grassley just needs to declare the issue dead and call for a vote.

  693. GF says:

    I actually don’t mind the counsel, but if we are giving in on that, MY only condition is that it MUST be a woman; Kelly Ayotte would be perfect (frankly, she should be there in place of Flake on that committee anyhow, but that’s another story).

  694. DW says:

    I don’t think Ford will agree…just my hunch, I could be wrong. This has never been about actually coming to testify as much as it has been about grandstanding and delaying the process to try and get public opinion against Kavanaugh to the point where Trump dumps him, or until after the election. This stuff isn’t hard to figure out.

  695. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 21, 2018 at 5:41 pm
    The Republicans are afraid of their own shadow. Pathetic.

    – Which is why I’ve written here since Sunday night, if she testifies, Kavanaugh’s nomination is in deep trouble.

  696. Wes says:

    Blame Mikey and the Deadenders for Ayotte’s not being there, GF. They were deadset on helping Dems elect a moonbat over Ayotte and found someone willing to split her vote and achieve that end. They got what they wanted. Now they want to bitch because Republicans have no margin for error in confirming Kavanaugh.

    They should look in the mirror and acknowledge their role in the current mess in the confirmation hearings.

  697. Wes says:

    Let’s be honest, Robbie. You’d say Kavanaugh was in deep trouble if Ford were on video saying she made this up to try to derail his nomination.

  698. jason says:

    If the Senators want to abdicate from their right to ask questions, I agree the nomination is in real trouble.

    Maybe they are proposing it because Ford is against it, but its really a complete cop-out.

    And no, the counsel will not be asking the same questions because there will be no follow-up questions to the answers. Basically its a license for Ford to answer any way she wants without fear of follow-up.

    Just really, really stupid.

  699. Robbie says:

    It was 10 AM. Then it was 5 PM. Now, it’s 10 PM. Watching Republicans bend over backwards to accommodate someone who is clearly only out to scuttle this nomination is ridiculous. She’s playing them and they seem not to care. Just give in and make Kavanaugh sit in a cage.

    Phil Mattingly
    @Phil_Mattingly

    The deadline for Christine Blasey Ford’s lawyers to respond to the Senate Republican offer re: the hearing terms has been extended to 10pm, source confirms

  700. jason says:

    I have no problem with it, Jason. The Senators just tell the counsel what to ask and sit back and watch.”

    Watch what?

    Complete surrender?

  701. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    September 21, 2018 at 5:57 pm
    Let’s be honest, Robbie. You’d say Kavanaugh was in deep trouble if Ford were on video saying she made this up to try to derail his nomination.

    – I don’t think this assault ever happened. I think Kavanaugh is being smeared.

    I also realize the video testimony given by a professor is going to be tough to refute in this day and age no matter how untruthful it may be.

    If they allow her to testify, the cat will be out of the bag. To use another metaphor, they can’t unring the bell.

  702. jason says:

    was 10 AM. Then it was 5 PM. Now, it’s 10 PM.”

    Geezus.

    Just pathetic.

  703. jason says:

    Kavanaugh “once belonged to a frat that….”

    He must be guilty of something.

  704. Wes says:

    So at the end of the day, Robbie, you can’t even come up with any original metaphors and have to post a series of cliches as food for thought while this process runs its course.

  705. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    September 21, 2018 at 6:03 pm
    So at the end of the day, Robbie, you can’t even come up with any original metaphors and have to post a series of cliches as food for thought while this process runs its course.

    – Yawn

  706. Paul says:

    if this biased jury — stacked heavily with men of a certain age — decides that Kavanaugh or his allies can cast even the smallest shadow of doubt on Ford’s story, this 53-year-old hardball political operative by way of his all-male elite prep school and beer-chugging Yale fraternity will become the 114th justice of the U.S. Supreme Court.

  707. Wes says:

    OH NO!

    Kavanaugh was a member of a fraternity with a certain reputation toward women. We haven’t even any photos of Kavanaugh’s doing anything wrong, but because of his fraternity brothers, we have to judge him guilty of trying to rape Ford.

    Even you must be smart enough to realize this is a weak case against the man, Paul.

  708. Wes says:

    A biased just in Paul’s mind is a Judiciary Committee run by Republicans.

    Wow!

    Talk about desperation.

    And I’m not referring to the Stephen King novel.

  709. Paul says:

    I have no doubt that “no means yes, yes means anal” Kavanaugh is unworthy of being on the Supreme Court.

  710. Wes says:

    We know why she’s asking for a thorough investigation , Paul: to delay the process til after the midterm.

    If she’s not lying, why hasn’t she contacted the Montgomery County, MD, DA’s office and asked them to file charges? He’s a Democrat in a Democrat-heavy county, and MD has no statute of limitations on rape or attempted rape.

    The FBI has no jurisdiction here.

  711. Wes says:

    You just made a serious allegation against Kavanaugh, Paul. Now produce your evidence against him.

  712. Wes says:

    Even Ford isn’t alleging Kavanaugh penetrated her either vaginally or anally.

  713. Paul says:

    Wes, I have a higher bar than some regarding what makes someone worthy for the Supreme Court.

  714. Paul says:

    “no means yes, yes means anal” was a slogan of his group at Yale. The “Tit and Clit” secret society.

  715. Robbie says:

    Paul says:
    September 21, 2018 at 6:18 pm
    Wes, I have a higher bar than some regarding what makes someone worthy for the Supreme Court.

    – Yes. Your bar is someone can’t be nominated by a Republican administration.

  716. Wes says:

    Considering your bar doesn’t exclude libeling someone in a public forum, Paul, I’m calling you out as a liar.

  717. Wes says:

    Even the article you linked doesn’t allege Kavanaugh did anything salacious or untoward, Paul.

  718. Phil says:

    746

    Nail on head.

  719. Redmen4ever says:

    Let’s have some confidence in Sen. Grassley. He’s dealing with the reality that we can lose at most one vote. Also, let’s consider the possibility that Professor Ford is not simply a yo-yo of Democrat plotters. Maybe she appreciates what Grassley is doing and will met him halfway.

  720. Paul says:

    Wes,
    How did I libel anyone? I didn’t accuse him of anything. I just think his associations with these groups makes him unworthy of the Supreme Court in my opinion.

  721. Wes says:

    You associated Kavanaugh with a salacious saying even the article doesn’t directly link him to. Even so, if every lawyer associated with a salacious fraternity were disqualified from being on the Supreme Court, we would have virtually no Justices meeting that impossible standard.

  722. Wes says:

    Judges and politicians are people. We can’t expect people in their teens and twenties to have lived cloistered , perfect lives—especially in college. That said, Kavanaugh is the victim of a dubious , scurrilous accusation that should not derail his nomination for the simple fact of its incredibly unlikely veracity.

  723. Bitterlaw says:

    740 and 745 is a quote from a fictional fraternity at the fictional Hudson University on Law and Order SVU.

  724. Wes says:

    Well, damn, Bitter. Paul trolled himself in an attempt to troll us. Desperation, thy name is Liberal.

  725. Tina says:

    Grassley is dealing with the three Cuckateers.

    Mitchie has not gone wobbly.

    Wobbles is wobbly.

  726. Bitterlaw says:

    I know that most of you have very low opinions of my legal ability. However, I do have a fine reputation among me colleagues. Well, I used to. Then it was discovered that in college I mastered the skill of unhooking a front close bra with 2 fingers. My dreams of being a judge died with that revelation.

  727. blobbie says:

    Trump did this to himself.

    Flake would never have insisted on a hearing for one of Hillary’s or Jeb!’s nominees.

  728. GF says:

    757- Got you beat, BL; I snapped a trainer bra in 8th grade from the seat behind the “victim” with a ruler. Oddly, she found it quite flattering (she was Australian, and I have heard that the men down under are not so pleasant to women, so perhaps that was the nicest thing a boy did to her).

    I should be permanently barred from even taking the LSAT.

  729. Wes says:

    I’m not a lawyer, but I did try to reach down a girl’s shirt while I was talking to her once. She rewarded me by lifting up her shirt and letting me fondle her. I guess I have both of you beaten.

  730. Weeble says:

    Where’s Wobbles?

  731. Robbottie says:

    I got an atomic wedgie once.

  732. GF says:

    Pics or it doesn’t count, Wes.

    Seriously, though; what age?

  733. Robbottie says:

    Okay okay. It was a lot more than once.

  734. Wes says:

    I was 29. She was 25-26.

  735. Bitterlaw says:

    I always wondered how Wes met Tink.

    Zing!

  736. Wes says:

    That was years before I met Tink, Bitter.

  737. Robbie says:

    Ugh.

    Ali Rogin
    @AliABCNews

    .@SenatorCollins says that Republicans should let Ford testify when she’s ready (unclear if Collins saw the latest note from R’s offering Wednesday). “If she can’t be there Monday then invite her for Tuesday. Invite her for Wednesday. Invite her for Thursday.”

  738. Tina says:

    The “accuser” cannot travel via plane.

  739. Tina says:

    Springfield Missouri,

    Trump Rally about to start.

    11000 in attendance and lots of peeps outside.

  740. Mr.Vito says:

    Phil Mattingly
    ?Verified account @Phil_Mattingly

    Senate Judiciary Chair Chuck Grassley says if Prof. Ford’s attorneys don’t respond to the GOP hearing offer by 10pm, the committee vote on Kavanaugh’s nomination will happen Monday.

  741. Gpo says:

    One last screw job by Anthony Kennedy for not giving a longer notice of his retirement which could caused this circus to end a month ago

  742. Mr.Vito says:

    Speaking to CNN’s Jake Tapper on Friday, Goldman — one of the two reporters who wrote the Times bombshell — said as far as he was concerned, it was not a flippant remark…

    He continued on: “But, you know, it’s important that your listeners understand something. That as I was pursuing this story for a very long time, people were reluctant to talk about it, because of the gravity of the story. There was concern that if it got out, that, you know, Rosenstein had wanted to actually, you know, wear a wire, and suggested Andy McCabe, the acting director at the time wear a wire, that Rob might get fired. People were sincerely concerned about this. Not because he made a flip remark. Because of the seriousness surrounding the remark.”

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/ny-times-reporter-stands-by-rod-rosenstein-bombshell-this-wasnt-a-flippant-remark/

  743. Tina says:

    I thought papa dope wore the wire.

    So confusing with the ny times stories.

  744. Mr.Vito says:

    “You don’t have to be a Democrat or a Republican … to say that it’s not good to pressure the attorney general or the FBI to use the criminal justice system to punish political enemies. That’s what they do in some dictatorships. That’s not what we do here in the United States of America.”

    Guess who said this today?

  745. lisab says:

    chuck schumer

  746. Robbie says:

    Does anyone really think the accuser, after all of this, is going to pass on a chance to testify? I don’t.

    Grassley should have ended this at 5 PM.

  747. SoHope says:

    I just watched most of the texas senate debate. Omg does The democrat think he is running in Vermont?!?

  748. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    723. “– Which is why I’ve written here since Sunday night, if she testifies, Kavanaugh’s nomination is in deep trouble.”

    Wrong Robbie. The Republicans want her to testify under oath. It is Ford who is desperately trying to avoid it. She will not fly, and probably will soon say she will not drive — instead use a stage coach. The Democrats strategy is to use whatever means possible to get a delay. If Ford had damaging information, the Democrats would be trying to rush her in to testify as soon as possible.
    Time to have the vote.

  749. Robbottie says:

    “Does anyone really think the accuser, after all of this, is going to pass on a chance to testify? I don’t.

    Grassley should have ended this at 5 PM.”

    Because she would have passed on it then.

  750. Mr.Vito says:

    776 Right idea lisab, but even more laughable.

  751. Tina says:

    Obumbler

  752. lisab says:

    more laughable …

    hillary

  753. Phil says:

    “Grassley shave ended this at 5PM”

    Absolutely right.

  754. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Actually, the reason Dr. Ford will not fly is the gross misconduct by airline pilots. She fears an assault. Believe your name got mentioned Robbie. Don’t bother to deny it; all accusation are deemed true. We know as a male you will just lie and hide your reprehensible conduct. You should be ashamed.

  755. Mr.Vito says:

    ““Grassley shave ended this at 5PM””

    Sounds inappropriate.

  756. Hugh says:

    She may still back out.

  757. Tina says:

    i think the obumbler credited himself for the economy today in Pa?

    He looked very thin, as if he was worried about something.

    The other day, while mentioning trump,me began stuttering,

  758. lisab says:

    dr ford has accepted on the condition there will be no questions and the hearing is on october 19th

  759. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    You should have stayed with checking out internet ladies.

  760. lisab says:

    The FBI should absolutely not be investigating sexual allegations from 35 years ago.

    bill clinton

  761. lisab says:

    dr ford to appear on 60 minutes

  762. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 21, 2018 at 8:31 pm
    Robbie,

    You should have stayed with checking out internet ladies.

    – You never should have supported so many candidates who cost Republicans safe seats in the Senate.

  763. NYCmike says:

    This Kavanaugh cr*p is sure good theater. Never-ending soap opera.

  764. Redmen4ever says:

    Report out K., give the Flake and the Weak Sisters passes; and, let Manson of WV and Tesler of MT be the deciding votes.

  765. Blobbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 21, 2018 at 8:31 pm
    Robbie,

    You should have stayed with checking out internet ladies.

    – And I do not look at ladies!

  766. Blobbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 21, 2018 at 8:31 pm
    Robbie,

    You should have stayed with checking out internet ladies.

    – And I do not look at ladies!

  767. Mr.Vito says:

    Ted Cruz has Dr.Ford’s response to the committee offer.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rO1jO0mazU&start=4&autoplay=1

  768. Cash Cow TM says:

    CCCCCCCC?

  769. Cash Cow TM says:

    BAZINGA!

  770. Cash Cow TM says:

    I heard Dr. Ford is demanding that all questions be posed in Swahili.

    And there must be bowls shaped like frogs in various places in the hearing room.

    And all the male senators must wear thongs and shave their heads.

  771. NYCmike says:

    I have a feeling that Ca$h will be posting that video of the guy dancing with the crazy legs very soon……its been that kind of week.

  772. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    CNN is reporting that Dr. Ford’s team wants an extra day to respong to Sen. Grassley. Does Grassley cave?

  773. Phil says:

    Of course they do…..and another day after that…..and another day after that…..and another day after that…….

  774. Cash Cow TM says:

    Bitter,

    Did you go see the game?

    Martinsburg high School travels a long way to Academy Park (near Philadelphia) for their 33rd straight win.

    Final score: 42-20!

  775. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Phil
    How did the Cruz/ Beto debate go?

  776. Hugh says:

    In the end we will have to stop the delaying and will take a beating. Might as well be now.

  777. BayernFan says:

    I don’t care how or when….

    The Senate GOPs job is to confirm the guy. They better do it or they’re phuqqed.

  778. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Phil
    The strategy is clear. Dr. Ford wants her say without any pushback and not under oath. “60 Minutes” will accommodate her on Sunday night.

  779. Phil says:

    Only heard half the debate. Cruz was on his game.

  780. Robbie says:

    Delay, delay, delay. First, it was 10 AM. Then it was 5 PM. Then it was 10 PM. Now the accuser’s lawyer wants another 24 hours. Notice a trend here.

    Manu Raju
    ?@mkraju

    Ford’s attorney responds to Senate GOP, arguing they’ve given her no time to respond by giving them with their counteroffer late in day. They say Ford was dealing with FBI today on death threats. “Our modest request is that she be given an additional day to make her decision.”

  781. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    https://twitter.com/PeterAlexander/status/1043312032198606849

    Dr. Ford’s reply to Senator Grassley.

  782. Tina says:

    No deal.

    But are the 3 Cuckateers on board?

    Amoral scumbag flakey, the Maine Chicket, and tSenator Planned Parenthood?

  783. Robbie says:

    I was a freshman in high school during the Thomas/Hill fiasco. I didn’t watch the hearings on that Saturday morning, but I was quite aware of what was taking place. I also remember watching the late day vote for confirmation that was 52-48.

    Here’s the thing, though. I don’t remember any talk of Thomas once he was confirmed in 1991. I know he was somewhat of an issue in the primaries, but Clinton didn’t beat Bush in 1992 because of Thomas. He won because of the economy.

    Also, I’m hard pressed to remember any person over the last 27 years saying his rulings were illegitimate. I certainly don’t remember Democrats saying the Bush vs Gore ruling was invalid because Thomas had been accused by Hill.

    If he’s confirmed, Kavanaugh will fade away once he disappears into the Supreme Court. Let’s get non with it.

  784. Phil says:

    ‘’Let’s get on with it”

    Bingo.

  785. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #815 & 816
    “Let’s Get On With It”

  786. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    I agree with you, except for the fact that you then say Kav is screwed if she testifies…..that is where I agree with “CG”, that patience is warranted…..just up to a certain point.

    I have faith in Grassley right now that he has spoken with the 3-4 sc*mb*gs in his party and is doing what he can to bring them on board.

    The process will ultimately follow thru, just stop your worrying.

  787. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #814- Tina
    I doubt that Sen. Grassley would announce such a deadline without the green light from Jeff Flake, who is on the Committee.

  788. Tina says:

    Sheeple think long ball.

    51 Rs, a handful of Cuckateers.

    The committee is not the problem, it is the full senate vote.

  789. Mr.Vito says:

    Rod Rosenstein considered lawyer to Clinton ally Sidney Blumenthal for special counsel, report says

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/rod-rosenstein-considered-lawyer-to-clinton-ally-sidney-blumenthal-for-special-counsel-report-says

  790. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #820
    Agreed, but the GOP desperately needs to move it out of Committee to the Senate floor where Mitch McConnell can do his magic.

  791. Robbie says:

    Switching subjects, the Rosenstein story smells funny to me. I think it was leaked by allies of McCabe. He wants his pound of flesh from the DOJ for firing him and I think he and/or his allies believed this story might give Trump a reason to fire Rosenstein and set off a crisis.

    I believe someone set up Rosenstein and I’m not usually one to buy such things.

  792. phoenixrisen says:

    Boom! Committee vote set for Monday. Suck it Dems. Kavanaugh will be conformed, and you will like it!

    https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/09/21/siren-senate-judiciary-committee-announces-monday-vote-for-brett-kavanaugh/

  793. jason says:

    I hope they don’t cave again.

  794. Gpo says:

    Can she still agree to show Wednesday and they will postpone Monday ?

  795. jason says:

    They caved again.

    Unbelievable.

  796. jason says:

    They gave her another 24 hours.

    I guess they can’t get everyone on board to shut the door on this charade.

  797. Paul says:

    Kreepy Kavanaugh is going down. Suck it guys.

  798. lisab says:

    Grassley says Schumer in control

  799. ReadyFirst says:

    One of the first rules any good military officer learns, never issue an order you’re not prepared to enforce. Republicans will win this one, but didn’t need to pay this price in the process. Newsflash, those who don’t want Kavanaugh won’t be won over, take the vote and stop the circus!
    https://apnews.com/8f5fc89473d8429f90af397ce0ae6b97/GOP,-Kavanaugh-accuser-in-standoff-over-her-Senate-testimony

  800. ReadyFirst says:

    669. Lisab, roflol! Funniest thing I’ve read all day!

  801. lisab says:

    ReadyFirst,

    thanks, but i think grassley may have made a big mistake

    a big unforced error

  802. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    jason
    Yes, it is frustrationg. IMHO, Grassley keeps extending the deadline due to one reason: Jeff Flake is on the Committee and is a total squish!.
    The new deadline is 2:30 p.m. today. (Actually, there is no deadline.)From Reuters:

    “Grassley gave Ford’s attorneys until 2:30 p.m. EST to negotiate the terms of her testimony to the committee next week, the Times reported, citing an email he sent to her lawyers.”

  803. Tina says:

    Amoral Scumbag Flakey is a problem.

    As is the Alaskan Sea Porker, a deadender.

  804. Bitterlaw says:

    I believe that I was the first to use the term ampral scumbag here. It was for Trump. I believe it fits him perfectly. It does not fit Flake since there is nothing in his personal life that would indicate that he has no morals. I find it interesting that Flake is condemned for being vindictive against Trump when Trump, the most vindictive politician since Nixon, gets a free pass.

  805. Bitterlaw says:

    I first used the term amoral to describe Wes’ treatment of emotionally damaged women. I do not believe that Wes is a scumbag.

  806. Tina says:

    Any new demands from the 3 Cuckateers this am?

  807. mnw says:

    Sheep 838

    I was about to tell YOU that!

    Folks, check out that crowd at John Q. Hammons Arena in Springfield! Looks like a sold out Bluz game.

    Hawley is a youthful, photogenic young man. The more lowfo voters see him on TV, the better, hopefully. I still maintain that Conor Lamb (D) won in PA because Rick Saccone (R) looked old & overweight.

  808. Mr.Vito says:

    “I first used the term amoral to describe Wes’ treatment of emotionally damaged women.”

    That’s it! 15 minutes with Wes and Dr.Ford will be putty in the GOPs hands.

  809. mnw says:

    P.S.

    2-mile long line. Appx 20000* could not get into the 11000+ sold out JQH arena.

    *this “20000” number comes from the Trump/Hawley rally organizers, so it’s undoubtedly exaggerated– but look at that crowd OUTSIDE! However, the “2-mile long line” estimate comes from the Springfield PD.

    I’d like to see another rally like this in St. Charles, closer to STL.

  810. mnw says:

    How’d you like to be the completely anonymous GOP nominee for MO state auditor? Just grinning & eating popcorn.

  811. Redmen4ever says:

    Iowa Poll, 9/17-20, shows K. with a slight lead on the “should be” or “should not be” question. Presumably, numbers in the goobernatatorium and generic versus name brand will be forthcoming.

  812. mnw says:

    I can see both sides to Grassley extending the Friday deadline. The idea is to make absolutely sure that everyone knows she had a chance to testify if she wanted to.

  813. jason says:

    I think its one of two things.

    Flake won’t vote for Kavanaugh unless Grassley keeps extending the deadline.

    Grassley is confident from the info he has that her testimony won’t derail the nomination.

    Outside of those 2 possibilities, I can’t understand why he would keep doing this.

  814. mnw says:

    RF

    That was “Iowa adults,” too: 37 yes-31 no. I expect it would be even better for K among LVs.

    (One of The Wise Men once tried to explain to me that Rasmussen was “garbage” because RAS polls LVs, & it’s “too early” for that!)

  815. dblaikie says:

    It must be obvious to any sane person that this woman does not want to testify. No one on the liberal side wants her to testify. The truth of that needs to be shown or else the Dems will be getting out their railroad whistles and their allies in the press will blow on them with all their hearts.

    Over the years I have come to admire Senator Grassley. He may talk slow but he thinks at the speed of light. In other words he is a very smart man. These extensions are just giving Dr. Ford and the Dems. more and more rope to hang themselves. When Sen. Grassley believes that it has been shown to anyone who has eyes to see that she is afraid to come and under oath tell her story, he will pull the plug.

  816. Hugh says:

    I think he does not have the votes or he’d pull the plug

  817. Bitterlaw says:

    Watching my blood sugar monitor is fascinating. It goes up and down all day. People with a working pancreas don’t have this kind of fun.

  818. jason says:

    It must be obvious to any sane person that this woman does not want to testify.”

    Two trains of thought on that too.

    1) She never intended to testify, and is just trying to damage Kavanaugh as much as possible by dragging it out as much as possible.

    2) She always intended to testify and is just trying to drag it out as much as possible before she finally shows up, and getting as many of her demands accepted as possible.

    I was leaning towards 2, but last night she did take a big gamble, she risked not testifying, which supports 1.

  819. dblaikie says:

    The best laugh of the day is that somehow Trump planted this Rosenstein stuff in order to get him. What a bunch of idiots. We already know that part of the sourcing for this cam from Macabe’s memos.

    The truth is that the circular firing squad of the deep state began to be formed when Trump ordered the declassification of the material. Also it may be that the Inspector General has found out all of this treasonous mess and it will be dumped. So like always stuff is leaked to the able and willing liberal reporters at the Times. The incredible thing is I believe in their bubble world this story hurts Trump, when the truth is if this turns out to be true it totally undercuts Mueller.

  820. mnw says:

    I suspect that she & her coterie of leftist advisors have decided that 60 minutes is a more congenial forum than those skeptical ole senytors.

  821. jason says:

    When Sen. Grassley believes that it has been shown to anyone who has eyes to see that she is afraid to come and under oath tell her story, he will pull the plug.”

    He had already done that with the 10 PM extension.

    Hugh is probably right, he doesn’t have Flake’s vote in the committee unless he keeps extending it and Flake is convinced she won’t testify.

    Or he has information that will cast doubt on her testimony and he is not afraid of it. That is possible too.

  822. jason says:

    Trump should not fire Rosenstein at this point, he should let the circular firing squad keep firing.

  823. Tina says:

    I believe Graasley and Hatch are the only two on our side with a hill hearings.

    I do not believe the Drats have anybody. Frankenstein. Was not a senator in 1991.

    No more extensions,

    You are looking weak.

  824. Tina says:

    And I do not think Grassley is a weak senator.

    Flakey, on the other hand. Is very weak.

  825. jason says:

    I hear Keith Ellison said last night in a debate that “women cook up domestic violence allegations”.

  826. dblaikie says:

    Hugh, I am not going to argue your point — because we don’t know. However I believe you are talking about Flake, and that could be true. If so, Grassley is playing him like a fish too. At some point, if she continues to refuse even our friend Floyd will have to crawl back into his hole and gnaw at the bones of his hatred for Trump.

    Jason, I am a firm believer in one. By far the best and most powerful message would have been for her to come and testify at anytime or anyplace. What they don’t see is that in their transparent effort to delay, Dr. Ford looses credibility with every new delaying tactic.

    That happened with my middle Son who is a newly minted law school grad (nervously waiting for the Bar results). He hates Trump. At first he was all on fire about this. That changed when the demand came that she should testify first. That raised all sorts of red flags for him. He still hates Trump, but now he thinks that Ford is just another political hack.

  827. jason says:

    Is there a time deadline on today’s extension?

  828. Tina says:

    Beto O’Rourke denied calling the police modern-day Jim Crow during tonight’s debate with Senator @tedcruz. So here’s the video of Beto calling law enforcement the “new Jim Crow.” youtu.be/917nXTYHY60 pic.twitter.com/aiLBWXhMni
    5:02 PM – 21 Sep 2018

    Twitter
    By: RNC Research @RNCResearch

    More Beta! After all, this race is a toss up. /s

  829. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    The other day, you were pilloried at Red Racing Horses for daringly questioning one data point in the NYT/538 poll.To wit: 36% of the vote would be from “new” voters in the New Mexico CD-2 race.
    This morning, I checked the New Mexico CD-2 voter registration statistics published by the State’s SOS and this is what I found:

    In November, 2012, the total number of registered voters were 381,500, Democrats 168,000 and Republicans 136,000.

    In August, 2018, the Total figure was 380,000, Democrats 152,500 and Republicans 137,000.

    In sum, you were correct to question the data point. The Total number of voters has remained static and the Democrat registration has dropped by about 10%,or 15,000 voters and the Republican registration is up by 1,000.

    So where does the 36% new vote come from?

  830. Tina says:

    Was Grassleys Twitter hacked?

  831. jason says:

    There could be other reasons for the delay strategy, dblaikie.

    They could be hoping someone else comes up with allegations. Or that the Rs or Trump will tire of the controversy and pull the plug on Kavanaugh. Or she needs a lot of coaching and time to prepare.

  832. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    jason: See post #837 for new deadline time.

  833. dblaikie says:

    Tina, to us they are looking weak. But we are not the ones who need to be won over. The voter who never really bother about this stuff until a week before the election are the target audience.

  834. Tina says:

    They may have Allred with another “accuser.”

  835. jason says:

    Unless the Dems had inside info that Grassley would not grant the extension, it is possible that she really doesn’t want to testify, or why would they have taken the risk once they knew what the final terms were.

    The “we were talking to the FBI about security” sounds like BS.

  836. dblaikie says:

    Jason those certainly could be good reasons. However they all point to the fact that they believe that she would be a weak (at best) to a disaster (at worst) witness.

    Frankly it says huge volumes that we haven’t heard someone come forward and say something like this: “I was not at that party, but I was at others where Judge was drunk and gave lewd looks at the teenage girls.”

  837. dblaikie says:

    Tina, the intensive, no cost too much, no bribe to great effort to find such a person began about the moment she got off the phone with Diane F. in July.

  838. jason says:

    LOL

    “When asked to say something they admire about the other:

    O’Rourke says Cruz’s sacrifice he makes with young kids, his service to country

    Cruz says he respects that O’Rourke is sincere in his beliefs “like Bernie Sanders”

  839. Mr.Vito says:

    No one cares whether she decides by 230 today instead of last night. Normal people are enjoying Saturday.

  840. jason says:

    They want to subpoena Judge to tag him as an unreliable alcoholic. That is obvious.

    They have no way of getting around the fact the 3 purported “witnesses” all deny this happened.

  841. jason says:

    Normal people are enjoying Saturday.”

    Sniff, Mr. Vito once again twists the “I have a life” knife…cruel.

    I care because I wanted Grassley to pull the plug last night.

  842. jason says:

    Frankly, I have never met a “normal” person here.

    No offense to the sock puppet.

  843. jason says:

    Actually, Dave seems like a normal person to me.

    Because he doesn’t comment.

  844. Todd McCain says:

    Theee Grassley deadlines are getting ridiculous

  845. Tina says:

    McMullin
    @Evan_McMullin
    Follow
    Some say that messages of unity don’t sell in times of polarization and tribalism like ours, but Beto is proving otherwise. There is, in fact, tremendous hunger in America for leaders who unite, not divide, and who call on us to put country before party. twitter.com/betoorourke/st…
    8:09 PM – 21 Sep 2018

    It cannot be denied, he was an insurance policy too in 2016.

    Utah remember? A drat in drag.

  846. Wes says:

    An RRH “Republican” speculated Ted Cruz is in something of a dogfight for reelection because TX is a “purple state.” (For the record, I hate the state color coding system.) That’s the level of analysis to be found there. To be fair, he also said it could be because Cruz has an unlikable persona, that being the actual reason. Nonetheless no one can look at TX objectively and consider it anything but a GOP state.

  847. Redmen4ever says:

    Let’s stop blaming Grassley. It’s the Flake. Grassley needs the Flake’s vote.

    The Flake, we now know, is one of those holier-than-thou Mormons. Really, it’s a little disgusting. Can’t support Trump because he’s nasty and now maybe can’t support K. because he might have been a prep.

    In a survey of religious tolerance in this country, the two religions that people found objectionable were Muslims and Mormons. And, what building did the Mormons ever blow up?

    The last time Mormons came to my house, I told them sorry I already belong to a cult group and handed them the a copy of Watchtower magazine that I had recently been given.

  848. Tina says:

    The leak yesterday about the 25th amendment and Redactstein is bs from McCabe,

    Over the remaining few weeks, coup plotter will attack coup plotter.

  849. Robbie says:

    So another deadline has come and gone.

    I still believe she will accept the offer to testify.

    It was a mistake to give her so many opportunities.

  850. mnw says:

    Sheep 865

    RE: NM & RRH

    You should post over there. You understand these things better than I do.

    Did you see that RRH big chief Moshe got suspended for 1 day, for calling me “an idiot,” in connection with my NM post? Which I copied verbatim from you?

  851. jason says:

    Oh God, now it’s blame the Mormons?

    Frankly, that is a disgusting post.

    Red attacks the Mormon religion using old biased clichés and claims THEY are religiously intolerant?

    I guess he can’t see the hypocrisy in that.

  852. Tina says:

    It is likely that Redactstein was joking about the 25th amendment, in response to Clinton protector, McCabe.

    The article is missing what was Mccabes response to wearing a wire?

    Maybe, the mistress knows the answer or the psycho, Pete the cheat.

  853. Tina says:

    Yes, blaming Mormon was discussed in 2012.

    Remember, it was the Genesis for the brokered convention.

  854. jason says:

    The last time I read something so religiously intolerant here was when ssq alleged Christians deserved a “real Christian” instead of Romney.

    Excluding lisab’s religious hate posts, of course.

  855. Redmen4ever says:

    Beto versus Cruz

    1. Beto doesn’t come across as Hispanic in person. Pretty much a white progressive-socialist. Cruz will make good inroads with Hispanics and other minorities.

    2. Beto was handicapped by having to simultaneously appeal to Texans and to his out-of-state bold progressive donors. Considering this, I think he did about as well as anyone could.

    3. Cruz didn’t suffer any such handicap and maybe overplayed the advantage he has being in a Red State.

    4. I thought Cruz could have handled the fleeing the scene issue better. How can Beto, being drunk, be so sure he didn’t flee the scene; and, everybody wants to have their presumption of innocence respected when they’re accused, including those who deny the presumption of innocence to the police, to Judge Kavanaugh, to President Trump and to others they don’t like.

  856. Tgca says:

    I think I’m NORMAL.

  857. Tina says:

    Matt Schlapp
    @mschlapp
    Follow
    Im told that Jeff Flake is the only Republican causing problems for Kavanaugh. He’s gone from conservative champion to roadblock.
    4:31 AM – 22 Sep 2018

    Amoral scumbag.

  858. jason says:

    Tina, I believe anything is possible, in that nest of vipers.

  859. Wobbles says:

    Amoral scumbag”

    I own the rights to Amoral Scumbag.

    And I got it the hard way, I EARNED it.

    Find something else to describe Flake.

  860. jason says:

    Calling Mormons a “cult” is the definition of religious intolerance.

  861. mnw says:

    Hard to bring pressure on a lame duck.

  862. Tina says:

    Beta is not Hispanic.

    Beta is Irish and his first name is “Robert.”

  863. Wes says:

    Claiming Flake is doing anything he’s doing strictly because of his religion is religious intolerance. He doesn’t like Trump. We all know that. His motivation is hatred for Trump. Chalking it up to his religion is both lazy and offensive.

  864. jason says:

    Beta is not Hispanic”

    I can sympathize with Beto, Robert is complicated.

    My real first names, Pachacamac Urcaguary Uturuncu Yupanqui, are hard to pronounce so it was shortened to jason.

  865. jason says:

    is motivation is hatred for Trump. Chalking it up to his religion is both lazy and offensive.”

    Exactly. Redmen is just using this to take a cheap shot at Mormons.

    While claiming Mormons are “religiously intolerant”.

  866. Robbie says:

    If Flake is doing this, it’s because he wants to get his pound of flesh from Trump.

  867. Phil says:

    What time is the next committee deadline? No, not the one today, the new, new, one they will extend her for tomorrow – followed by the new, new, new one they give her for Monday.

  868. jason says:

    Hard to bring pressure on a lame duck.”

    Yep, TDS trumps everything.

    You see it here with Amoral Scumbag and Corey.

  869. Redmen4ever says:

    Tolerance is a two way street.

    Let me give an example. When I was deployed overseas, my roommate, a Mormon, invited me to join him for his Mormon services. I have joined many of my friends at their religious services and have always enjoyed the experience.

    Soon after that, I invited him to join me in my religious services. No. He said he couldn’t. I said don’t ask me to join you in your services again and think about revealing your rule against reciprocity the next time you invite a Christian to your services.

    In 2012, I maxed out for Romney. I thought he was a fine candidate and, besides, he was my party’s candidate. I was happy to do that because he was such an upstanding man. I give props to Mormons for being such good people, even though they are cultish (technically, they’re not a cult because there are so many of them; but, their rules restricting interaction with others make them cultish).

    In 2016, Mormons in Utah backed Cruz in an effort to stop Trump, in large part because Cruz is a good man and Trump, well, isn’t as good a man as we would like. Mitt, in particular, gave a ringing endorsement of Cruz/condemnation of Trump which was helpful in winning Wisconsin. But, after Wisconsin, we were back in New York and environs, where people are kind of used to being crude, and Cruz had made a mistake in Iowa bemoaning “New York values.”

    What did Cruz (and I) do after Trump won the nomination? We supported Trump. He might be a bastard, but he was (and still is) our bastard.

    Contrariwise, we had candidates in New Hampshire and Nevada who committed political murder-suicide, disrespecting Trump too openly, costing us 10 electoral votes and two Senate seats.

    Jeff Flake has so far acted honorably, distancing himself from Trump while voting correctly. His decision to step down is also honorable. As Harry Truman said, if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Mitt, it appears, is developing a tougher, more realistic position about working with bastards who are on our side, and is going back into the kitchen.

    Maybe Flake isn’t the reason Grassley is caving on the deadline issue. Grassley in committee and McConnell in the full Senate are considering everything: the need for 11 votes to report out the nomination, the need for 50 votes for confirmation, the need to appear fair to support our candidates, and the need to be fair in treating two of our fellow Americans, K. and the Professor.

    I really don’t know what to make of Flake, but I trust Grassley and McConnell.

  870. jason says:

    If Flake is doing this, it’s because he wants to get his pound of flesh from Trump.”

    And what does that say about Flake?

    Trump will come and go, here is an opportunity to put a conservative justice on the court for 30 years.

    Of course, you would identify with that kind of thinking.

  871. Phil says:

    It says EVERYTHING about Flake. Everything. Yeah, we see what TDS does to “conservatives” here on this site every single day. It trumps everything a conservative is supposed to support. It’s a mental illness and Flake is a prime example.

  872. Tina says:

    Flake is an idiot,

    He wanted to vote on Garland,

    Pos.

    Mitchie should have stripped his committee assignment,

  873. jason says:

    the next time you invite a Christian to your services.”

    You show your bias and intolerance right there.

    Mormons ARE Christians, but of course you know that. Mormons identify themselves as devoutly Christian. That should be enough to accept them as Christians unless you are religiously intolerant.

    “Mormons affirm, however, that these beliefs do not disqualify them as Christians, but rather ground their faith in Jesus Christ and strengthen their commitment to following His example and His teachings. While acknowledging genuine differences in various doctrines with other traditional Christian churches, they identify themselves as Christians in light of their devotion to worshiping and following the Savior.”

  874. Tina says:

    Alex Pappas
    @AlexPappas
    2h
    This Washington Post lead says Christine Ford was upset when Trump won in ‘16 because Kavanaugh was mentioned as a possible SCOTUS pick. But Kavanaugh wasn’t added to Trump’s list of possible justices until November 2017… whitehouse.gov/briefings-stat… pic.twitter.com/QOMBVqB9x1

  875. mnw says:

    I saw The Omen. jason is a good screen name for that poster.

  876. Wes says:

    Contrariwise, we had candidates in New Hampshire and Nevada who committed political murder-suicide, disrespecting Trump too openly, costing us 10 electoral votes and two Senate seats.

    This is bulls hit. Trump was in trouble in both states before Heck and Ayotte said anything. Trump’s campaign hurt him in these states and took down the Republicans on the ballot with him. Even so, Kelly Ayotte would have won had her vote not been split.

    The idea that Senators or Senate candidates who spoke out against Trump cost him their states EVs and themselves the lower ballot elections is fanboy nonsense dreamed up to excuse Trump. John McCain, Rob Portman, Lisa Murkowski, and Marco Rubio were all vocal in their distaste for Trump. Each won even as Trump carried their states.

    Blaming Ayotte and Heck for Trump’s losses in their states willfully overlooks the fact that Trump was running a campaign that wasn’t popular with the local electorate and is nothing short of a vapid, fanboyish attempt to divert attention elsewhere rather than acknowledge the reality that Trump was not a good fit for either state in 2016.

  877. Wes says:

    Tina says:
    September 22, 2018 at 11:07 am
    Flake is an idiot,

    He wanted to vote on Garland,

    Pos.

    Mitchie should have stripped his committee assignment,

    Ask the Deadenders why they were so deadset on getting a moonbat elected over Kelly Ayotte, Tina. She would be on the committee now had she won and would have aided, rather than impeded, Kavanaugh’s confirmation.

    It was moonbat or bust for the Deadenders though.

  878. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    September 22, 2018 at 11:02 am
    If Flake is doing this, it’s because he wants to get his pound of flesh from Trump.”
    And what does that say about Flake?
    Trump will come and go, here is an opportunity to put a conservative justice on the court for 30 years.
    Of course, you would identify with that kind of thinking.

    – Wrong, fraud.

    I don’t agree with what he’s supposedly doing at all.

  879. dblaikie says:

    I have no desire to be counter-intuitive but it seems to me that the obvious thing is that Flake wants Ford to testify desperately so like McCain with health care, he can stick it to Trump one last time. My question is, knowing that, why not just go and testify? Flake changing his vote would be a huge victory. They could not report out Kavanaugh to the Senate with a favorable vote. Why not grab this opportunity and go forth to hitting the President with a big fat no!

    I don’t know the answer to that. I am not in the room. But I have a theory and I have been advocating to anyone who will listen. And even though I might be all wrong I don’t believe I am. SHE IS NOT CREDIBLE FOR WHAT EVER REASON!!
    If she was, Kavanaugh would have already been toast.

  880. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    September 22, 2018 at 11:07 am
    It says EVERYTHING about Flake. Everything. Yeah, we see what TDS does to “conservatives” here on this site every single day. It trumps everything a conservative is supposed to support. It’s a mental illness and Flake is a prime example.

    – And now you understand why I believe, if she testifies, Kavanaugh’s nomination is in big trouble.

    If we assume he’s the roadblock right now, it’s hard to conclude he won’t vote against Kavanaugh after the accuser testifies.

  881. Tina says:

    Flakey could just vote it out and then vote know.

    But he has his Muh principles.

  882. Tina says:

    The 3 Cuckateers are like suicide bombers.

  883. jason says:

    “If we assume he’s the roadblock right now, it’s hard to conclude he won’t vote against Kavanaugh after the accuser testifies.”

    I doubt that. He said he wanted to have the opportunity to testify.

    He might have told Grassley that if in the end there is nothing new in the testimony he will vote for him.

    Otherwise, Grassley would have already ended the circus.

  884. jason says:

    Opportunity for her to testify that should read.

  885. Redmen4ever says:

    Wes, you should contact Senator Heller. He is under the mistaken idea that we either hang together or we hang separately. Also, Congresswoman McSally. She’s under the mistaken idea that she should build a bridge to the Trump supporters of her state. These two seemingly intelligent people, playing the game with real money, have learned the wrong lesson from 2016.

  886. Wes says:

    Nice attempt at obfuscation without actually refuting any of my points, Redmen.

    When you can actually prove Heck and Ayotte we’re responsible for Trump’s lackluster numbers in their states before they ever opened their mouths after the Access Hollywood rape, then we can talk.

    After all, McCain, Portman, Rubio, and Murkowski certainly didn’t hang with Trump. The effect of their apostasy on their states was undetectable.

  887. Wes says:

    Tape, not rape. I must have hit the wrong button.

  888. Tina says:

    Looks like Grassley will have to do another extension per Chad Pergram tweet

  889. jason says:

    Looks like Grassley will have to do another extension per Chad Pergram tweet”

    Wow, he is embarrassing himself.

    Sad.

  890. jason says:

    What was the tweet?

  891. Redmen4ever says:

    Demanding reciprocity is intolerance.

    Game theory shows that optimal strategy is tit-for-tat. To return kindness for kindness, and not to return kindness for unkindness. But, there is a problem with this strategy: who will first offer kindness. The best solution we have is called “confidence building.” Offer a small kindness and see if there is reciprocation. Them build up from there.

    With this knowledge, we should have a whole new understanding of what Jesus said in the Parable of the Good Samaritan, and in its scientific validity. We are to be like the Good Samaritan who took the first step. In truth, it wasn’t a very costly step for him.

    As opposed to science and Jesus, there are the bumper stickers that promote random acts of kindness. Whom am I to argue against a bumper sticker?

  892. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    20m
    Fox is told that discussions on getting Ford to appear went deep into the night last night. Fox is told some senators prevailed upon Grassley to reluctantly grant an extension of today.
    View details ·

    Here, Jason. I read it wrong.

  893. Tina says:

    Chad also noted that fox is reporting that there will be no deal.

  894. Redmen4ever says:

    Wes, in real time, I complimented Portman for the way he handled the matter. He made his point about Trump and then focused on his race. Trump won the state with about one in five of his supporters viewing him unfavorably.

    Here’s the exit poll:

    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/ohio/president

    Notice that Trump had a much larger percentage of voters who viewed him unfavorably as opposed to the percentage of voters who voted for Clinton who viewed her unfavorably.

    Switch to New Hampshire. Trump and Clinton had about the same percentage of their votes from people who viewed them unfavorably.

    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/new-hampshire/president

    That’s the murder part. Now for the suicide part.

    Check it out: of those who viewed Clinton favorably, Ayotte only got 9 percent and “other” got zero. BUT of those who viewed Trump favorable, Clinton got 14 percent and other got 4 percent.

    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/new-hampshire/senate

    That’s the suicide part. A murder-suicide.

  895. Tina says:

    Paul Sperry retweeted
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    @paulsperry_
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    Remember Lucy & the football? Well, Lucy is now Debra Katz and Charlie Brown is Charles Grassley … yahoo.com/news/republica…
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  896. mnw says:

    I’ve always believed that Ayotte & Trump would’ve both won in NH if they had campaigned together. I still believe that. It was just my instinct. I think Trump could’ve persuaded a handful of pro-Trump/skip Senate, & Ayotte could’ve persuaded a handful of Ayotte/neverTrumpers.

    I thought AT THE TIME, before the GE, that Ayotte made a mistake because she was too risk-averse.

  897. Wes says:

    Redmen, the only problem with your argument is that Trump was trailing before Heck and Ayotte came out against him. He was never a popular figure in either state. In NV in particular, Dem turnout as a negative reaction to Trump was skyhigh. That dragged down Heck and every other Republican running downballot.

    It’s easy to try to blame Trump’s loss on other people, but then you have to account for his not holding up before Heck and Ayotte came out against. The dynamics were in place already. Given the closeness of both states despite Trump’s consistently being behind in the polls, it’s unlikely Heck and Ayotte has anything but a marginal effect on him.

    I understand the mindset of the Trump supporter is to blame everyone other than Trump for the President’s shortcomings, but a dispassionate analysis indicates Trump was hurting regardless of what Heck and Ayotte said.

    Occam’s Razor:

    Trump was not a good fit for either state. Dems rallies their base in both states and turned their voters out. Trump lost both states and dragged local Republicans down with him.

    That makes a lot more sense than your Byzantine “murder-suicide” conspiracy theory.

  898. jason says:

    He shrugged off responsibility for the extension onto the Senate’s Democratic leader, Chuck Schumer. “I feel like I’m playing 2nd trombone in the judiciary orchestra and Schumer is the conductor,” Grassley wrote in a separate tweet”

    Unbelievable.

    Why should Grassley care about what Schumer says or thinks. Geezus.

  899. Wes says:

    Ayotte ran several thousand votes ahead of Trump and lost by -1000 votes despite having her vote split by a Deadender whose stated goal was to elect Maggie Hassan and a right-leaning Libertarian.

    There’s exactly no evidence Trump would have been a help to her in any way.

  900. jason says:

    Trump was not a good fit for either state. Dems rallies their base in both states and turned their voters out. Trump lost both states and dragged local Republicans down with him.

    That makes a lot more sense than your Byzantine “murder-suicide” conspiracy theory.”

    That is exactly what happened.

    And it is clear Ayotte almost pulled Trump through, not the other way around.

  901. jason says:

    hese two seemingly intelligent people, playing the game with real money, have learned the wrong lesson from 2016.”

    I have nothing against Heller and McSally appealing to Trump supporters.

    But that was not the lesson of 2016. In 2016, with the possible exception of Heck who got like .5% less than Trump, every other R senator that opposed him did better than he did. Even Kirk.

  902. lisab says:

    Kelly Ayotte would have won had her vote not been split.
    —————————

    she also would have won if she had gone to trump’s rally the day before the election

    she insisted on making a big deal about not going, and it certainly cost her

  903. mnw says:

    Wes 937

    I think your post supports the opposite conclusion. Trump might’ve brought in the votes of the “independent” anti-Ayotte candidate– you think they were anti-Trump TOO? Some non-hardcore Libertarians, i.e., the kind who don’t go to their so-called conventions, might also have been persuadable.

    I’m sure if Trump had had an inkling that he was going to win big, he would’ve devoted more time to NH.

  904. jason says:

    “..that Ayotte made a mistake because she was too risk-averse.”

    Trump never made mistakes burning bridges with other GOP candidates and office holders. Only they made mistakes being critical of him.

    I just love the logic.

  905. jason says:

    The reason Ayotte lost was that some of the deadender “Rino hunters” wouldn’t support her, with the usual result that a liberal Dem won.

    We have seen this movie over and over.

    And yet, there is always some lame excuse for it. The deadenders are never to blame.

  906. Redmen4ever says:

    Wes, I see you now agree with me about the suicide part. Ayotte lost because deadenders who supported Trump got votes that should have gone to her instead of wasted on third-party candidates who had no chance of winning. Even if you denied the vote to these deadenders, Ayotte would have lost. She needed their votes.

    Look, I can accept that people like The Flake are too good to allow themselves to be among the deplorables. But, I want candidates who can at least pretend to not hate them when their out in public, who can kiss their babies, look into their ugly faces and smiles revealing their missing teeth and smile back, and who can eat their heart-attack inducing barbeque and say yummy, yummy.

  907. lisab says:

    ayotte was invited to trump’s penultimate rally before the election

    she refused very publicly to even send a representative. it was a big deal on talk radio all day.

    she paid for it in rural towns like derry and salem, where trump outpaced her with voters

    she of course did better in blue areas like nashua

  908. mnw says:

    I’m talking about an alternate strategy whereby Ayotte might have gotten her extra 1000 votes. jason is talking about something else, as usual. Ayotte had a problem on her right flank, which she knew about, with the supporters of the anti-Ayotte, pro-Trump (presumably) independent candidate.

    Hmmm… how to address that? How could it be remedied? Is there anyone close at hand who COULD have persuaded some of those anti-Ayotte, pro-Trump voters? Al Sharpton, perhaps, jason? Seems unlikely. Maybe Trump? Nah. Too risky! Always best to play it safe. /s

  909. jason says:

    Let me translate mnw’s logic:

    It was Ayotte’s fault she lost.

    It was somebody else’s fault Trump lost.

  910. jason says:

    Ayotte had a problem on her right flank,”

    Ah yes.

    So the “right flank” got Hassan.

    Absolutely brilliant, I am sure she will advance their “conservative” concerns.

  911. lisab says:

    had she done as well as trump in just those two towns, derry and salem, she would be senator today

    and they are not big towns, but she dropped 500+ votes each there

  912. jason says:

    she paid for it in rural towns like derry and salem, ”

    She paid for it?

    I see.

    So these deadenders in Derry and Salem got Hassan for 6 years, what a great purchase!

  913. jason says:

    had she done as well as trump in just those two towns, derry and salem, she would be senator today”

    The election was statewide, and she did better than Trump in other areas.

    So it seems like she had a better campaign than he did.

  914. Wes says:

    Mnw, when you have to put a ton of maybes and mights and like words in your argument it’s a weak one. We know objectively Trump ran well behind Ayotte in NH. We also know a right-leaning Libertarian was running. We further know an Indy ran for the express purpose of splitting Ayotte’s vote and electing Hassan.

    Given all that, attributing her loss to refusal to support Trump is at best speculation and has no basis beyond pure conjecture.

  915. jason says:

    “Is there anyone close at hand who COULD have persuaded some of those anti-Ayotte, pro-Trump voters?”

    Zzzzzz.. .the old theory that people whose only intent is to “send a message” and have zero interest in the outcome are “persuadable”.

    Any “conservative” who preferred Hassan to Ayotte was not persuadable. You read it here first.

    The answer is no.

  916. jason says:

    wes, whenever mnw talks about “GOP unity”, I don’t know whether to laugh or throw up. It’s the most one sided “unity” I have ever seen.

  917. lisab says:

    like in most of the usa, trump did better than expected in rural areas

    nh was no different.

    ayotte did better in the deep blue cities, and trump did better in the rural areas.

    and she is not a senator today because she threw the deplorable vote away

  918. lisab says:

    “Is there anyone close at hand who COULD have persuaded some of those anti-Ayotte, pro-Trump voters?”
    —————

    yes, ayotte

    all she had to do was not say anything about trump. she had already withdrawn her endorsement.

    she was invited to his rally, she could have gone and simply said, let’s defeat hillay tomorrow …

    but, that was too much for her

  919. jason says:

    Given all that, attributing her loss to refusal to support Trump is at best speculation and has no basis beyond pure conjecture.”

    It’s more than pure conjecture. It completely flies in the face of the results.

    If Ayotte’s decision to distance herself from Trump was a bad one, he would have outperformed her. He didn’t.

    The evidence is that it helped her marginally, just not enough to win.

  920. jason says:

    yes, ayotte

    all she had to do was not say anything about trump. she had already withdrawn her endorsement.

    she was invited to his rally, she could have gone and simply said, let’s defeat hillay tomorrow …

    but, that was too much for her”

    Nice fantasy, but completely contrary to the facts.

  921. jason says:

    but, that was too much for her”

    Yes, and given her prior statements, it would have been extremely hypocritical for her to go to the rally.

    I bet she would have lost a lot more votes than she gained.

  922. lisab says:

    it is exactly in line with the results,

    trump ran ahead of her in the rural areas, and significantly so in some towns

    these are small towns, running behind trump by 500+ votes in salem is tough to do.

    she lost 80 votes in northhampton alone, which only has 500+ republican voters

    she bled out in the deplorable part of the state

  923. lisab says:

    doubt it … she could have appeared before he showed up, he did not come until late

    and it was a unity rally for maine, nh and massachusetts

    so all the candidates were there or sent someone

    except ayotte … who not only did not show,

    she made a big deal about it in the press.

    she should have gone

    or

    at least said nothing.

  924. jason says:

    I know the numbers contradict all the speculation but here they are again.

    Kelly Ayotte Republican 353,632 47.84%

    Donald J. Trump Republican 345,790 46.46%

    Ayotte got 8k more votes than Trump.

    The idea she lost because she distanced herself from Trump or “didn’t go to his rally” is completely unsupported by the facts.

  925. lisab says:

    and if you check the numbers

    trump ran ahead of ayotte in rural areas

    where she pissed off his voters

    had she not made a point of insulting them, the day before the election,

    she would be senator today

  926. jason says:

    trump ran ahead of her in the rural areas, and significantly so in some towns

    these are small towns, running behind trump by 500+ votes in salem is tough to do.”

    Yeah, and she must of run ahead of him in a lot other parts of the state, right, to outpace him by 8k votes.

    So it looks like her decision to distance herself from Trump and not to go to the rally benefited her, not hurt her.

    That’s what the numbers say.

  927. jason says:

    trump ran ahead of ayotte in rural areas

    where she pissed off his voters

    had she not made a point of insulting them, the day before the election,

    she would be senator today”

    No, she would have lost by a bigger margin, as the numbers show.

    And the whole thing about “insulting them” is BS, the fact is these deadenders would never vote for her because she was a RINO.

    So they got Hassan.

  928. jason says:

    here she pissed off his voters”

    So is Hassan pleasing them now?

  929. Wes says:

    Also, if the Trumpkins were such crybabies they wanted Hassan to win to spite Ayotte, then why is the GOP trying to appeal to them anyway? They’re just a bunch of whiners willing to elect a moonbat if they don’t get their way.

  930. jason says:

    “This is a chart in the Yale study showing the range is between 16 million and 29 million undocumented immigrants, with a mean of 22 million–double the accepted estimate of 11 million. The Yale researchers had assumed it would be less than 11 million.”

    Yale study shows there might be twice more illegals as estimated previously.

    NYC to declare WE ARE WINNING in 3, 2, 1….

  931. lisab says:

    you are wrong and by your own logic

    you and bitterlaw make a big deal about how you always vote against the dem

    and the trumpsters are deadenders who will stay home if they don’t get their way

    well …

    they did stay home because ayotte insulted them the day before the election

    whereas, had she simply gone to the rally, smiled and waved

    people like you still would have voted for her

    and

    the trumpsters would have too

  932. lisab says:

    she went out of her way to insult trump supporters

    and it cost her

  933. jason says:

    Also, if the Trumpkins were such crybabies they wanted Hassan to win to spite Ayotte, then why is the GOP trying to appeal to them anyway? They’re just a bunch of whiners willing to elect a moonbat if they don’t get their way”

    Yep, Ayotte is still wealthy and has moved on to other things.

    The whining deadenders who were “insulted” have Hassan for 6 years, bent on opposing ALL their interests.

    Who paid the price here exactly?

  934. Wes says:

    Can you post the quote where Ayotte insulted Trump’s voters, Lisa?

  935. jason says:

    people like you still would have voted for her”

    Yes, but deadenders are not people like me.

    And of course, she didn’t “insult” anybody.

    They are, as wes says, whining crybabies. They weren’t going to vote for her anyway.

    Let’s get real and stop making sh-t up.

  936. jason says:

    ey did stay home because ayotte insulted them the day before the election”

    Huh, no.

    They voted for Trump and decided to send a message by not voting for Ayotte.

    As a result, the got a liberal Dem instead.

    How this is Ayotte’s fault I haven’t a clue.

  937. jason says:

    she went out of her way to insult trump supporters

    and it cost her”

    Complete fantasy. She never insulted any Trump supporter.

  938. jason says:

    So its 2:15 PM.

    Any news?

  939. Wes says:

    Without Day in the race, Ayotte would likely have netted a couple thousand votes and won. Right after the election, someone did an analysis of the Senate voting in NH in 2016 and determined Day did best in the areas where Ayotte saw her biggest dropoff from 2010, strongly suggesting his presence on the ballot as the ultimate reason for her loss.

  940. Bitterlaw says:

    Anti-Mormonism has returned to HHR. Can LaZebra be far behind?

    The few tines that Mormons or Jehovah’s Witnesses came to my house, I took their literature. We then prayed for lisab.

  941. Bitterlaw says:

    she went out of her way to insult trump supporters

    Zzzzzzzzzz. Kelly was one of the nicest and most intelligent people in our class. At 22, it was clear that she was going to succeed at whatever she chose to do. The people who voted for Day were morons who deserved electing a flaming lib to screw them over. Since Kelly received more votes than Trump, she was smart to not kiss his ass.

  942. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #976
    My guess is that Grassley and others are done negotiating with Ford’s team, but are now negotiating with the Kingmaker- Jeff Flake! LOL!

  943. jason says:

    The die is cast whatever it is.

  944. lisab says:

    she insulted them when she refused to go to several of his rallies

    do you know who notices when you don’t show up at a rally?

    the 20000 trump supporters who are there the day before the election, especially when one of the masters of ceremony is howie carr, the leading talk radio person in the area

    and he talks about it on his radio show for four hours the day before the election

    your devotion to ayotte is misplaced, she mishandled the trump voters

  945. jason says:

    she went out of her way to insult trump supporters

    Zzzzzzzzzz. Kelly was one of the nicest and most intelligent people in our class. At 22, it was clear that she was going to succeed at whatever she chose to do. The people who voted for Day were morons who deserved electing a flaming lib to screw them over. Since Kelly received more votes than Trump, she was smart to not kiss his ass.”

    Dang, I wish I had said that.

    GFY.

  946. jason says:

    “The insulted them when she refused to go to several of his rallies”

    LOL

  947. lisab says:

    Zzzzzzzzzz. Kelly was one of the nicest and most intelligent people in our class
    ——————–

    great

    and the trumpsters did not like her because she went out of her way to insult trump and them

    BL and jason yesterday: oh the trump supporters only support trump, they are loyal to only him and are deadenders

    BL and jason today: oh the trump supporters did not mind she did not show up at the rally

    in fact …

    the mainstream republicans would not have voted for her if she had played even a little nice because mainstream republicans are the deadenders

  948. lisab says:

    ayotte f-d up

    she should have gone in front of the 20,000 trumpsters and smiled

    and gone on the radio with howie carr and said, “let’s all get out and vote”

    and

    she refused

  949. jason says:

    she mishandled the trump voters”

    Completely bogus statement. Not one shred of truth to it.

  950. Robbie says:

    So the accuser has accepted the request to testify, but has not accepted the terms.

    Yet another delay tactic.

  951. Redmen4ever says:

    Jason: the theory of murder-suicide in NH is

    (1) Several percent of the voters who said they found Trump favorable didn’t vote for Ayotte, but instead either voted for Hassan or third-party candidates; and,

    (2) A different small percent of the voter who said they found Trump unfavorable either voted for Clinton or third-party candidates.

    What is easy to say is that Trump won big among people who found both he and Clinton unfavorable nationwide, but not in NH. What is not as clear is whether Ayotte could have communicated that it was o.k. to find Trump to be a bastard and still vote for him, would Trump have performed as well in NH as he did nationwide among voters who found both unfavorable. So, I think reasonable people can disagree about the murder part of the murder-suicide theory.

    Turning to the suicide part, because Ayotte disrespected Trump, a slice of his support shifted to Hassan and to third-party candidates. I quoted figures above, from the exit poll, that supports this contention. The evidence for this is actually very strong.

    Look, some people have standards. When a deadender wins the nomination, they prefer to elect the candidate of the other party. What could Ayotte be thinking when she disrespected Trump, other than it would be preferable that Hillary be elected. Obviously, this is not going to sit well with Trump supporters.

    The other side of this coin is that there are so many Never-Trumpers out there, that you’ll lose more votes by endorsing Trump, or even being seen as not sufficiently against him. In real time, POS was running polls showing that Never-Trumpers were minimizing their losses by disendorsing Trump. They were trying to save our majorities in the Senate and in the House, when it looked like Trump was going down in flames.

    Then, Trump wins big in Ohio, decisively in Florida, and ekes out wins in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan. And, our Senate candidates in Ohio, Florida, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania also win. Of the states in play, where we won one and there was a Senate race, we won the other. And, where we lost one and there was a Senate race, we lost the other.

  952. jason says:

    ayotte f-d up”

    She should have f-d up a little more then, since she got 8k more votes than he did.

    The truth is that the Day voters were deadenders that would NEVER vote for Ayotte.

  953. jason says:

    Turning to the suicide part, because Ayotte disrespected Trump,”

    Zzzzzz…

    Fake statement.

    Ayotte lost because deadenders that would never vote for her didn’t vote for her.

    They got what they deserved: Hassan.

    They sent their message.

  954. mnw says:

    You know nothing about Trump voters if you think Trump can not persuade them with a personal appeal.

    I’m done with that now.

    Patti Davis has publicly endorsed the Ford accusation. The only one of RR’s kids who WASN’T a complete mess is Mike, the one he adopted.

  955. jason says:

    Look, some people have standards. When a deadender wins the nomination, they prefer to elect the candidate of the other party.”

    Don’t you just love it here?

  956. GPO says:

    Whatever happens, every Republican in California should vote for Feinsteins opponent this November, The other guy may be more liberal but what does it really matter

  957. jason says:

    ou know nothing about Trump voters if you think Trump can not persuade them with a personal appeal”

    Zzzzzz…..

    Didn’t work too well in Alabama, huh?

  958. jason says:

    Circus is on.. she will testify.

  959. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Her statement means nothing except to Jeff Flake.
    1) She agreed to testify next week, but was silent on Wednesday.
    2) Details are to be worked out. There was not acceptance of Grassley’s specific terms.
    3) She insults Grassley

  960. Wes says:

    Trump personally endorsed Strange, Moore, and Saccone. That persuasion by personal appeal didn’t help them.

  961. GPO says:

    Paul Sperry

    BREAKING: I am told that if Rita Katz fails by 2:30 pm today to agree to a hearing –and under Grassley’s terms of 1) Kavanaugh goes after Ford, 2) no other witnesses & 3) no restrictions on who asks questions — then Grassley is going ahead with committee vote on Monday. Period.

    If true beautifully played by the dems. She will appear on some media outlet not under oath before the vote and muddy it all up

  962. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    994. “Whatever happens, every Republican in California should vote for Feinsteins opponent this November, The other guy may be more liberal but what does it really matter.”

    Feinstein’s opponent is a fringe leftist. Feinstein is 85 years of age, so this will be her last term. It will be an open seat next time. Voting for her 51 year old opponent means your likely to have a leftist who will hold the seat for several several decades.

  963. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Ford’s agreement to testify was established last Monday by her attorney. Her agreement today was nothing new.
    This e-mail is bogus and a stalling tactic.

  964. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    883. “The Flake, we now know, is one of those holier-than-thou Mormons”

    Five Republican senators are Mormon (about 10% of the Republicans in the Senate). Only Flake is causing problems for Kavanaugh. Hatch, Lee & Crapo are supportive; Heller was recently campaigning with Trump.

  965. Redmen4ever says:

    Thanks SanDiego. This needed to be pointed out. And each one of these people, and Jeff Flake too, are gentlemen. Also, it’s not bad to want to be fair, and to also appear to be fair to the accuser in this case. We’ll just have to see how this works out.

  966. mnw says:

    Wes

    To try to blame Moore’s loss on Trump is one of the few really stupid things you’ve ever posted.

    Saccone came within an eyelash of winning. How do you know that Trump DIDN”T help him a LOT? We’ve often discussed that candidate quality means everything. If u saw any of Saccone’s ads, it’s damn near miraculous he got as close as he did.

  967. mnw says:

    Flake is a genuinely worthy successor to John McCain– a true bipartisan hero who isn’t afraid to REACH ACROSS THE AISLE & PUT COUNTRY BEFORE PARTY.

  968. Wes says:

    I didn’t blame Trump for Moore’s loss, Mnw. Moore was responsible for his own loss. I pointed his loss out as a counterpoint to your contention that Trump can generate support among his followers with a personal appeal. Clearly Alabamans had no interest in having Moore represent them in the Senate even though Trump endorsed him .

  969. janz says:

    If Grassly caves on the Thursday date, it’s over for this nomination. It has to be Wednesday or forget it!

    There are Senate rules which apparently make Thursday fit nicely into Ford’s attorney’s stall-the-vote tactics, moving the process a whole week before Kavanaugh can receive a vote. This will give them extra time to create other diversions, and Kavanaugh will essentially be dead in the water.

    I can’t believe the limp spines of the republicans.

  970. janz says:

    If Grassly caves on the Thursday date, it’s over for this nomination. It has to be Wednesday or forget it!

    There are Senate rules which apparently make Thursday fit nicely into Ford’s attorney’s stall-the-vote tactics, moving the process a whole week before Kavanaugh can receive a vote. This will give them extra time to create other diversions, and Kavanaugh will essentially be dead in the water.

    I can’t believe the limp spines of the republicans.

  971. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Flake is a genuinely worthy successor to John McCain.”

    You forgot to mention Flake has all of about a 15% approval rating. Flake did not run for re-election because he knew he would lose badly. I actually believe the “holier-than-thou” statement fits Flake. He is a legend in his own mind.

  972. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Ford’s attorney’s stall-the-vote tactics.”

    Also keep in mind the “stall the car in Topeka” tactic. Ford is to traumatized to fly, so will be driving the Washington D.C.

    Being an ecologically aware progressive, she probably has an electric car like a Tesla. Finding recharging stations in some areas will really slow her down; at times her battery may run out, which requires hours waiting for a service call.

    If she agrees to testify on Wednesday, doubt she will make it on time. The Democrats are going for broke on this one.

    Grassley should have the Judiciary Committee vote on the nomination on Monday, with the condition that they can reconsider the vote after Ford’s testimony later in the week.

  973. DW says:

    she could always ride Amtrak.

  974. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “she could always ride Amtrak.”

    She would feel unsafe. They would not give her a private car.

    Given Amtrak’s record, am not sure it would get her to the hearing on time.

  975. Phil says:

    ‘’We accept to testify. can we set a time for later today to continue our negotiations?”

    What a crock. The answer should be, “we are through negotiationing. It’s Wednesday” Get your ass here.

  976. dblaikie says:

    Until they reach agreement on the terms all of this stuff is just for media experts to pontificate.

  977. mnw says:

    RRH 6 Senate changes: 5 toward DEMs; 1 (NM) toward GOP.

  978. Phil says:

    Their answer today was another non answer. They didn’t say anything about agreeing to a day, time, or conditions. They agreed to negotiate on “when” negotiations can begin again.

    ENOUGH of this Horsesh*t.

    Agreeing to testify without a when means nothing – and everyone on both sides (except Flake apparently) knows it.

  979. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Senator Orin Hatch statement at 3:15p.m. today:

    Worth noting that this is exactly where we were on Monday morning— without agreeing to a date, time, and terms we are no closer to hearing from Dr Ford then we were when her lawyers said Dr. Ford was willing to testify during their media tour

  980. Tina says:

    The accuser has a new attorney.

    Bromwich, who was Ig for the Doj.

  981. Redmen4ever says:

    I see that Princess offers an around the world cruise departing from Los Angeles and arriving at For Lauderdale three months later. From there, she could take a side trip to Baltimore, from which an urban commuter train, intercity bus, rent-a-car or limo service could get her the rest of the way to Washington. The only problem is completing Jerry Brown’s high speed rail line from San Fransisco to Los Angeles.

  982. Robbie says:

    This letter from the accuser’s lawyer is a joke. They turned down every offer the Republicans made, yet said the word “accept” precisely so the press would praise her.

    This is nothing more than another attempt at a delay. If Republicans continue to fall for this nonsense, then they deserve to lose.

  983. Bitterlaw says:

    She would already have testified if she wanted to testify. Vote.

  984. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1019. “I see that Princess offers an around the world cruise departing from Los Angeles and arriving at For Lauderdale three months later.”

    Tgca could serve as her chaperone on the trip.

  985. Tina says:

    The delay is to,get Bromwich up to speed,

    They did. It agreed to any of Grassleys terms.

  986. Tina says:

    Not agree*

  987. Tina says:

    Sean Davis
    @seanmdav
    16m
    (Amoral Scumbag) Jeff Flake, who has been going along with Democrat efforts to delay testimony from Kavanaugh’s accuser, is preparing to vote “present” on Kavanaugh when his nomination comes to a vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee, per sources.
    View details ·

  988. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Agree with Bitter. Its all delay now, and the Republicans will look weak letting the circus continue. My hunch is they are trying to placate Flake and Collins.

    A recent You Tube poll of registered voters had only 31% saying Ford was credible. 37% not credible. With 32% saying they were not sure or could not say from what they have heard.

    The 31% who gave Ford credibility were hard core Democrats.

  989. Waingro says:

    Flake is awful.

    “Jeff Flake, who has been going along with Democrat efforts to delay testimony from Kavanaugh’s accuser, is preparing to vote “present” on Kavanaugh when his nomination comes to a vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee, per sources.”

    https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1043615248190726144?s=21

  990. Tina says:

    Sean Davis
    @seanmdav
    Follow
    It’s interesting to compare the Kavanaugh confirmation efforts of Grassley, Hatch, and Cornyn, all of whom have done everything they can to get all the facts w/o needless delay, to those of Sasse (MIA, as usual) and Flake, who’s going out of his way to help Democrats delay.
    2:10 PM – 22 Sep 2

  991. Phil says:

    “If Republicans continue to fall for this nonsense then they deserve to lose’’.
    For the first time in months I agree 100% with what Robbie is saying. He is exactly right.

  992. Wes says:

    All right. I’m done with RRH. One of the resident “Republicans” just said TX is a “purple state.” That kind of thoughtless analysis kills any interest I have in the site outside the weekday roundups.

  993. Phil says:

    Ok, what is this RRH everyone continues to discuss. Honestly, I don’t know. Is it some kind of a Never Trumper site? What does RRH stand for.

  994. Robbie says:

    I’m always reluctant to Sean Davis. On top of that, the tweet from Matt Schlapp today suggests this may be a coordinated effort to influence Flake.

  995. Tina says:

    38m
    “A new poll from The Huffington Post indicates that only a quarter of women believe that the sexual misconduct allegations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh are credible.” It’s time to #HoldTheVote and confirm Kavanaugh!

    Wtf are the 3 Cuckateers doing?

  996. Wes says:

    The full name is now rrhelections.com, Phil. It was formerly Red Racing Horses. Rdelbov migrated over there in 2011. It claims to be a right-leaning site dedicated to electoral analysis , but realistically most contributors are overt or covert Dem cheerleaders. The mods are egotistical downscale Napoleons who frequently attack Trump but ban any right-leaning posters for untoward remarks while rarely doing the same to the site’s liberals.

    It does have good roundups released Monday through Friday detailing the events of various marquee races, but the analysis is frequently abysmal, consisting mostly of declarations of Dem victories regardless of the actual dynamics of the given races.

  997. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1033
    In addition to the Huffington Post data, the Selzer Co.(gold standard) just released a poll showing that in Iowa, Kavanaugh’s confirm/non-confirm percentage is 38/31.

  998. Wes says:

    One of the RRH “Republicans” was almost celebrating a Hillary victory two years ago even as Trump was racking up victories in most key states and endangered Senate Republicans were holding most of their seats .

  999. Phil says:

    Wes, thanks. Sounds like a site I’ll stay away from. Don’t need to read that crap.

  1000. Phil says:

    …and they said Texas was a purple state?

    WTF?

  1001. Robbie says:

    Why have a majority if the majority won’t act like one?

    My guess is the hearing never happens because Kavanaugh bows out before then.

    There’s no way Jeff Flake listens to her testimony and still votes for Kavanaugh.

    Phil Mattingly
    @Phil_Mattingly

    Tentative agreement on a Thursday hearing between committee and Ford’s lawyers in a call described as short but productive, per sources. More discussions set up for tomorrow.

  1002. Wes says:

    Here’s the post I referred to, Phil. Get your barf bag ready.

  1003. Wes says:

    VASTBLIGHTKINGCONSPIRACY
    September 22, 2018 at 12:58 pm | In reply to cer
    I’m honestly of the opinion that TX-Sen could be a toss-up (really on the border of toss-up and lean-R as conventional wisdom is giving Cruz a 2/3rds chance). I actually really like Shamlet’s way of thinking about the probabilities (lean = 1 SD away) and uh, that’s exactly how far Texas seems.
    Texas is a purple, maybe slightly tinted red state at best now. The Cruz campaign has known this all year, which is where my only optimism about this race comes from, because it’s actually a good sign that they’re not going to be caught unaware (contrasts greatly with say, the entirely embarrassing Georgia GOP which is barreling towards November devastation and humiliation at the hands of Stacey Abrams). Enough optimism that I think it’d be Lean-R, though just barely.
    The GOP margins in TX were never sustainable simply because they depended on monstrous Soviet-style margins among Texan whites. Which was plausible in a country where the GOP was marginalized into the regional party of (South)western whites (and no one else, as it seemed probable in 2008/2012), but ceased to be plausible once the GOP tried to actually build a national governing coalition (god damn they can be annoying).
    I am not a member of any organized political party. I am a Republican.

    Ggggrrrr…

  1004. Wes says:

    In a separate post later on, the same poster said Sanders, if nominated, would have crushed Trump and carried with him lopsided congressional majorities to do his bidding.

    While I think Trump lucked out in drawing an opponent with Hillary’s tremendous baggage, I honestly don’t see a scenario where Sanders, even if victorious, would have triggered a Dem wave and had free reign to remake the US into Venezuela North.

  1005. Robbie says:

    I would be shocked if Republicans take the accuser’s testimony Thursday and then proceed to confirm Kavanaugh days later. It’s just not going to happen. The outcry from the press will be too much for the weak kneed Republicans like Flake to take. Flake , Collins, Murkowski, and maybe Corker will all bail on Kavanaugh.

    If testimony does take place, Kavanaugh withdrawing is the most likely option.

  1006. Redmen4ever says:

    voting present works

    K. gets reported out “without a recommendation;” and then a couple, three, four Democratic Senators running in deep red states have to decide how they will vote. We could lose a nomination battle and retain control of the Senate in a tough year. Trump will then put forward another nomination.

  1007. Todd McCain says:

    Unfortunately, the Dems played this one beautifully and the GOP Senate has too many squishes.

  1008. Tina says:

    Phil, according to the 3 toupees, beta will win.

    Lol

  1009. Tina says:

    We have no margin,

    It may take the veep to cast the deciding vote, in a 50-50 tie, if we only lose Amoral Scumbag, Flakey,

    But we also have the .2 others, in addition to Maybe Sassehole.

  1010. Bio mom says:

    1043 That was the goal all along. We truly are a banana republic now.

  1011. Robbie says:

    Every bit of evidence suggests Jeff Flake has joined with Democrats to ensure the accuser gets to tell her story on the terms she and the Democrats want. He is the one who has likely torpedoed Kavanaugh, but I suspect Collins, Murkowski, and Corker will join hands to ensure he’s not on an island.

  1012. Redmen4ever says:

    Iowa Poll: Hubbell +2

  1013. mnw says:

    As I understand the process, a Th .hrg would means there wouldn’t be enough time to confirm K before the next SCOTUS term starts.

  1014. Tina says:

    Flake tweets that he will not be voting present.

    I will not link the scumbags tweet.

  1015. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    September 22, 2018 at 8:37 pm
    As I understand the process, a Th .hrg would means there wouldn’t be enough time to confirm K before the next SCOTUS term starts.

    – At this point, a confirmation is all that matters.

    This is a smear job, but preserving the seat has to be paramount.

    If that means dropping Kavanaugh, then maybe sadly.

  1016. dblaikie says:

    Frankly I tire of Robbie (and others) telling us that Kavanaugh is toast. Folks said the same thing about Clarence Thomas. I still believe that they don’t want this woman to testify. And I still wouldn’t be surprised if she doesn’t testify. But if she does and when you compare her with Brett Kavanaugh, his record and integrity, he will be confirmed. To think that he is just going to slink away without defending himself is just plain dumb.

  1017. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    September 22, 2018 at 9:09 pm
    Frankly I tire of Robbie (and others) telling us that Kavanaugh is toast. Folks said the same thing about Clarence Thomas.

    – It’s not what I want, but I think it defies reality Flake and the rest listen to this woman and then just disregard her and vote to confirm in the #metoo era. This is not 1991 when Thomas was confirmed.

    I hope I am wrong.

  1018. dblaikie says:

    Flake is not going to vote present. When will folks learn to take these tweets for others who don’t much more than you as true. He has already endorsed Kavanaugh and maybe he will change. As I posted earlier he will be tempted to pull another McCain. But we don’t know that. Again, unlike Ford, Brett Kavanaugh can hardly wait to testify. Maybe why he is fired up to do it would be a good thing for the chicken little folks to answer.

  1019. dblaikie says:

    I don’t know what Flake will do, but for the other Senator’s staying in the Senate to vote no on kavanaugh is going to bring a huge backlash. Collins may be from Maine, but conservative Republicans are still residents there by the thousands and lets not even think about Alaska. And by the way, in these red states, if Brett Kavanaugh comes across as honest and credible those Democratic candidates, especially those who voted for Gorsish are going to be in bad way. I can not imagine Joe winning if he votes against Kavanaugh in West Virginia.

    Before people start wringing their hands and yelling the sky is falling let just wait and see how this sleazy episode plays out.

  1020. dblaikie says:

    “learn not to take these tweets from others . . .”

  1021. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Jeff Flake?@JeffFlake
    Jeff Flake Retweeted Sean Davis
    Your sources are not accurate. I will not be voting “present”

    Sean Davis?@seanmdav

    Jeff Flake, who has been going along with Democrat efforts to delay testimony from Kavanaugh’s accuser, is preparing to vote “present” on Kavanaugh when his nomination comes to a vote in the Senate Judiciary Committee, per sources.

  1022. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1057. Agree. Flake has political ambitions to be a Republican alternative to Trump in the future. Voting against Kavanaugh will end any possibility of it happening.

    Republicans bent over backward to try and accommodate Ford, and what has happened made it clear she was only interested in delay.

  1023. Tina says:

    Hold on gang, if true, then the accusers credibility to another hit:

    Guy Benson
    @guypbenson
    20m
    Hearing that the other woman at the alleged party (the one missing witness, as identified by the accuser) has come forward & says she doesn’t know Kavanaugh & has no recollection of attending any party that he did. Four alleged witnesses. All four do not corroborate her story.

  1024. NYCmike says:

    “#metoo era.”

    -Robbie, once again, spouting MSM propaganda.

    Think for yourself, will you please.

    The media beats the drum – you can turn down the speakers.

  1025. Robbie says:

    I’m all in favor of primary challenge to Trump in 2020, but the idea of Jeff Flake has always been laughable to me. And if he plays a role in scuttling a Republican nomination to the Supreme Court, he would barely poll above an asterisk.

  1026. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    September 22, 2018 at 10:02 pm
    “#metoo era.”

    -Robbie, once again, spouting MSM propaganda.

    Think for yourself, will you please.

    The media beats the drum – you can turn down the speakers.

    – You can hide in the conservative echo chamber talking points all you want, but these Republican Senators are scared of #metoo, especially with an election just six weeks away.

  1027. NYCmike says:

    Robbie, Kavanaugh’s biggest proponent 2 months ago, is bailing on him.

    Then he accuses me of being in an echo chamber because I don’t think the “#metoo era” is anything other than a media creation.

    Another reason why JEB2016, and his supporters, hate Trump so much.

    Trump exposed their underbelly.

  1028. NYCmike says:

    “but these Republican Senators are scared of #metoo, especially with an election just six weeks away.”

    -Typical.

  1029. Gpo says:

    Guys I hate to repeat myself so much – do not feed the troll

  1030. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I would not bet against Mitch McConnell, he has repeatedly come through in tight situations.

    Given the polling showing only 31% of voters give creditably to Ford’s claims, am not seeing this being a strong Democratic election issue. Its taken the spotlight off Trump, and makes the Democrats look bad. If anything, it will result in an increased Republican voter turnout.

  1031. mnw says:

    SDC 1068

    I think it will energize GOP voters to turn out, to some extent.

  1032. Hugh says:

    I’m just repeating myself but he gets in the only vote swing will be millennial males to us.

  1033. mnw says:

    Hugh 1070

    Repeating ourselves endlessly is “The HHR Way”! It’s what we DO! This whole joint is like a loudspeaker on a loop.

  1034. Bitterlaw says:

    per sources = People make up what they want to be true.

  1035. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “but these Republican Senators are scared of #metoo, especially with an election just six weeks away.”

    There is a difference between caution and fear. If a Republican gets attacked on the issue during the Midterms, their response can be they bent over backwards to accommodate the Ford testimony. But it became clear she was just trying to delay the vote. Ford got something like five extensions of time, and every effort was made to get her to testify.

  1036. mnw says:

    The Ford asininity should scare Tester, Donnelly & Heitcamp,* not the GOP senators

    *(too late for McC to be scared; she ALREADY skued the pooch)

  1037. Hugh says:

    Mnw. Provided bk gets in. I think otherwise the base is so disgusted we will struggle

  1038. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1067. “Guys I hate to repeat myself so much – do not feed the troll”

    Don’t pick on our favorite troll. He livens the place up. Who can forget his epic election predictions early on election night in November 2016. Would we have ever heard of Lord Ashcroft without him? Would we know where Bogo Pogo is? Whenever he is gone, posters are always asking where he is. He is the poster the board loves to hate.

  1039. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina has never explained why she calls Flake amoral.

  1040. Tina says:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dnvqi9PU4AAeUyz.jpg

    It is over, if true.

    Fourth witness is the “accusers friend”.

    Well, the friend is calling the accuser a liar.

  1041. Tina says:

    @mitchellvii
    20m
    Ms. Keyer, whom CNN confirms is “a lifelong friend of Ford’s,” is the third named witness to deny any knowledge of the allegations. The other two, Mark Judge and Patrick Smyth, issued written statements to that effect earlier in the week.

    If the accuser goes ahea d with this, it is perjury.

    The Rs have appeared to set a perjury trap for her,

    It is Ovah!!!!!!

  1042. Tina says:

    Bl, just cut your loss with The pos and call it a day.

  1043. Tina says:

    Chuck Ross 1h
    Because you couldn’t make it up if you tried, Dr. Ford’s friend, Leland Keyser, was married to Bob Beckel.
    View details ·

  1044. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    1m
    From colleague Shannon Bream. Counsel for Ms. Leland Keyser: Ms. Keyser does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr Ford. Ms Keyser hopes this information is helpful to your investigation

  1045. Tina says:

    Senator Hatch Office
    @senorrinhatch
    1h
    These official letters from the 4 named by Dr Ford—denying any knowledge of what Dr Ford has alleged— serve the same purpose as sworn testimony. We remain hopeful we’ll hear sworn testimony from the 5th, Dr. Ford herself twitter.com/shannonbream/s…
    View details ·

    Boom!

  1046. Mr.Vito says:

    Shannon Bream
    ?Verified account @ShannonBream

    Committee source says they’ve contacted five people alleged to be at party. 4 deny any knowledge of the party and allegations. 5th person – Dr. Ford – is the only one who has not provided them a statement. #Kavanaugh

  1047. Tina says:

    Shannon Bream
    @ShannonBream
    2h
    Atty for person alleged to be at party: “Simply put, [my client] does not know Mr. Kavanaugh and she has no recollection of ever being at a party or gathering where he was present, with, or without, Dr. Ford.”

  1048. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    5m
    Multiple GOPers tell Fox they don’t think Ford is truly interested in testifying. But there is a challenge for senators of both parties: are they willing to forge ahead with a cmte vote without resolving the Ford allegation?

  1049. Tina says:

    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    42m
    I truly believe that @JeffFlake’s goal is to have the GOP lose both houses of Congress in the hopes that Dems will impeach and remove Trump from office. Blocking #Kavanaugh and suppressing R voter turnout helps that agenda tremendously.
    Viewz

  1050. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – NO DEAL! If you call Trump, who really is an am. oral scumbag, an amoral scumbag then I will let your description of Flake go. Trump is more vindictive than Flake and Richard Nixon combined but he gets a free pass from you.

  1051. Bitterlaw says:

    amoral.

    Auto correct sucks.

  1052. Tina says:

    Keep defending flake.

    More Flaking,

  1053. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Two early assumptions that a lot of us had appear to be true:

    1.) Ford wound not testify under oath; and
    2.) The Republicans had information that they had not revealed.

    Interestingly that when it appears the negotiations for Ford’s testimony finally are at an end, new information comes out.

  1054. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @senorrinhatch

    “These official letters from the 4 named by Dr Ford — denying any knowledge of what Dr Ford has alleged — serve the same purpose as sworn testimony. We remain hopeful we’ll hear sworn testimony from the 5th, Dr. Ford herself”

    Can see why Senator Flake immediately when on Twitter to say he was not going to vote “present”.

  1055. Tina says:

    Correct, the negotiations are nearing an end.

    A source (unnamed) indicates an agreement on a Thursday date.

    Yes, the infamous unnamed source.

  1056. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KimStrassel?p=s

    Kimberly Strassel has a significant Twitter thread up about Kavanaugh.

    She is blasting the wp for poor reporting,

    Imo, wp is employing the same tactics when they reported on the fake Russian dossier.

  1057. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1089. Claims are being made about Senator Flake that are not necessarily true. Its speculation. The only thing we know for sure is he went on twitter and said he is not going to vote “present.” Its entirely possible he knew about the fourth witness statement. I think he may well vote in favor of Kavanaugh. Mitch McConnell is very often successful in lining up his votes.

    Early on, a couple of us stated Ford was getting enough rope to hang herself.

  1058. Tina says:

    avis retweeted
    Phil Kerpen Phil Kerpen
    @kerpen
    38m
    Looks like WaPo knowingly reported false information. Talk about going all-in on a smear. twitter.com/KimStrassel/st…
    View details ·

  1059. Tina says:

    2h
    In the coming days, Ford’s decision to send a letter to Rep. Anna G. Eshoo, a House member with zero jurisdiction over or authority to investigate presidential nominations, rather than Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who has explicit jurisdiction, is going to get a lot more scrutiny. pic.twitter.com/oLG0IndQTL
    View photo ·

  1060. Tina says:

    And now the accusers attorney attacks the “girl witness”.

    This sheot is bizarre.

  1061. Gpo says:

    Lol- and th female is bob beckels ex wife

  1062. Tgca says:

    Once cientos uno papi!

  1063. Bitterlaw says:

    Words have meaning. Tina. Flake is not amoral. Why have you not criticized Trump for agreeing with Flake’s strategy of giving the accuser time to testify?

    By the way, the public finds her less credible every day she does not testify. You can thank Flake’s strategy for that. However, they should vote on Monday.

  1064. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Tina
    Here is the Kim Strassel twitter thread. It is da*ning to Dr. Ford. If this were a boxing match, the referee would stop it and Ford’s team would shout, “NO MAS”.
    I am now very much for the hearing so Judge Kavanaugh can clear his name.

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1043708347977949186.html

  1065. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    As an addendum to #1103, even the Wise Men at Red Racing Horses,including your favorite,Moshem, are calling this game, set and match!

  1066. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    1103 & 1104
    As addendum #2, I expect one of two things to happen:(1) a new accuser will be trotted-out anonymously or(2) Dr. Ford will never testify and her team will blame the Senate Judiciary Committee for “bullying” her.

  1067. Tina says:

    Bl, still defending flake?

    I agree with you about her approva sinking.

    I also agree with you about the vote but there is a reason why Grassley cannot.

    The latest statement may change this.

  1068. Tina says:

    Sheeple both scenarios are very possible.

  1069. Tina says:

    Also. Sheeple, this has the good cop bad cop still written in.

    Grassley we agree to Thursday, but there is no agreement.

    Hatch hits her with the 4th statement, a Moab.

    White House jumps in with a statement about the 4th witness.

  1070. Tina says:

    Erick Erickson Erick Erickson
    @EWErickson
    9h
    Ford provided 5 people who she says can corroborate her story. Smyth: Denies it under penalty of perjury. Judge: Denies it under penalty of perjury. Kavanaugh: Denies it under penalty of perjury. Keyser: Denies it under penalty of perjury. Ford: Refuses to testify under oath.

  1071. dblaikie says:

    Got to go and preach (my job) but I have said from the beginning that this woman isn’t credible. I figure we are about 80% of the for having that as proven fact. By the way, if Robbie had his way Kavanaugh would have pulled his name two days ago.

  1072. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Tina and dk:
    Here is team Ford’s reply to Leland Keyser’s affidavit. You have to love Stephen Miller’s reply to it:

    Dr Ford’s attorney to @NBCNews: “It’s not surprising that Ms Keyser has no recollection of the evening as they did not discuss it. It’s also unremarkable that Ms. Keyser does not remember attending a specific gathering 30 years ago at which nothing of consequence happened to her”

    10:42 PM – Sep 22, 2018
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    Mike Emanuel
    ?
    @MikeEmanuelFox
    “It’s also unremarkable that Ms. Keyser does not remember attending a specific gathering 30 years ago at which nothing of consequence happened to her.”-Professor Ford attorney Debra Katz 2/2

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    Stephen Miller
    ?
    @redsteeze
    Replying to @redsteeze
    Ford’s team is actually going with Leland Keyser wasn’t raped so her memory isn’t accurate. Astounding. Jaw hit floor astounding.

  1073. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Tina
    I have been scolded that women never lie about abuse matters at the hands of Neanderthal men like Justice Kavanaugh and myself.(I was a lout in High School, but since then ,I have lived a clean and remarkable life.)
    So whom should I believe since they are both female members of the human species—Dr. Ford or Ms. Keyser?

  1074. Bitterlaw says:

    While perjury is serious, it is not rare. I see it often enough in my job to know it. I do not think Ford is afraid to testify under oath at all. She will say whatever she wants and, if challenged, say it was such a traumatic experience that she remembered it inaccurately.

  1075. Tina says:

    The lawyah for the accuser is now insisting that Ms. Keyser should not be faulted for not remembering.

    Th libtards are stating that well Ms. Keyser told the wp that she finds the accuser credible.

    This statement in the wp appears deceptive (a lie by the journalist).

    Ms. keysers written statement to the committee (signed under penalty of perjury) makes no such claim.

    Keyser appears to be telling the truth and her statement is a Moab.

  1076. Tina says:

    Nobody places Kavanaugh at “the crime scene.” All 4 witness statements support Kavanaugh.

    Yet, there is scumbag Flake who wants to blow it all up because she needs to be heard. If it were up to flake, let’s keep playing the wait game and let’s have Kavanaugh go first because the accuser always goes first, well let’s just do it for this one time.

  1077. Tina says:

    The accused*

    Let’s also,take her claim very seriously, it is so important that Frankenstein will not turn over the original letter that she has from the accuser. This is the unredacted letter. The letter released is the one “made” bynFrankenstein,

  1078. Tina says:

    https://hotair.com/archives/2018/09/22/lifelong-ford-friend-potential-witness-no-idea-shes-talking/

    Lifelong Ford Frend – has no idea what she is talking about. Keyser is also a drat activist.

  1079. Tina says:

    dillo
    @johncardillo
    Follow
    Ford’s own witnesses disputing her claims means Dem SJC staff never spoke w/them. @SenFeinstein & Co. were so convinced #Kavanaugh would withdraw, they had no contingency plan if he called their bluff. So they went with these stall tactics on the fly and Grassley fell for it.
    5:58 AM – 23 Sep 2018

    I agree with this, but the part about Grassley. He tweeted about Mrs. Keyser days ago.

  1080. Bitterlaw says:

    I suspect that Dr. Ford will get over her fear of flying in time for the inevitable book tour.

  1081. jason says:

    If that means dropping Kavanaugh, then maybe sadly.”

    So Amoral Scumbag admits it’s a smear job, but he thinks the MSM and the Dems should prevail anyway, and its ok that Kavanaugh’s life and career gets destroyed by a lie.

    Is there any doubt he really is an Amoral Scumbag?

  1082. Bitterlaw says:

    I have no reason to believe that Robbie is amoral. He has given no indication that he is like Trump or Wes in his personal life.

  1083. michael corleone says:

    Per foxnews and nbc, GOP will get wiped out this midterm. Looks like both Houses are gone with this generic ballot gap.

  1084. Bitterlaw says:

    MC – Don’t post! The evil gays might track your location.

  1085. Todd McCain says:

    House I think is def gone; Senate stays GOP.

  1086. mnw says:

    My contribution to the perjury (“false statements”) discussion. Wouldn’t blame you if u stop reading right here. Anyway:

    To even get to the starting line of a prosecutable case, the alleged false statements need to be recorded by cops, or else attested to by 2 cops. These statements also have to be “material”– central to the core criminal matter under investigation. Then, the perjury suspect needs to testify in the GJ, or at trial, saying the precise opposite.

    If the prosecutor has all that, she can draft an indictment “in the alternative,” i.e., putting the first and second statements side by side, & alleging that one or the other is false.

    Judges get angry when witnesses tell obvious lies in their courtrooms. They take it personally. They LOVE false statement prosecutions, but prosecutors don’t. Because juries sitting months later are inclined to be indifferent.

    All the recent Mueller convictions we’ve seen for false statements were the result of plea bargains. These cases aren’t often charged otherwise. Why not? Because there’s always a far more serious chargeable offense available.* If a prosecutor tacks on a false statement charge, he risks giving the jury a chance to avoid convicting on the greater offense by convicting on the lesser one.

    * For example, INSTEAD of charging the false statement? How ’bout “Conspiracy to Commit Bank Fraud” (or distribute controlled substances, or whatever), “in that the defendant knowingly gave false testimony in furtherance of the charged conspiracy.” Better? Carries the same penalty as Bank Fraud, unlike the False Statement charge.

  1087. mnw says:

    1124

    I don’t think ANYTHING is “definitely gone.” There are things called “events” that often interfere with predictions.

  1088. dblaikie says:

    Fox News poll is, like most, created to make news. They make it look dark, dark, dark and dark for the GOP when the truth is that with Registered voters (not likely which at this time says a great deal) they are only behind by 6 points. Hardly a blue wave. And what the poll says about Kavanaugh reveals more about the makeup of their sample than the real feelings of people who will actually vote.

  1089. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #1124- Todd
    I agree with mnw’s #1126 post.
    Please be aware that both the NBC and FOX News’ polls released today started last Sunday when the Dr. Ford story first broke and both concluded last Tuesday at the height of the allegations.

  1090. dblaikie says:

    I wonder how many thought that we would come to today and have media outlets (Fox wants ratings just like the rest) proclaim growing support for the Judge. If you thought that I have some swamp land to sell you in Nye County Nevada.

  1091. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw
    Boy, Moshem at RRH is a real trooper today. Go Moshem!

  1092. Wes says:

    Your junior Senator from Hawaii, people!

    https://mobile.twitter.com/CNN/status/1043860851441225731?s=19

    The logical contortions made by the libs on that Twitter thread are more twisted than an H. P. Lovecraft villain. They basically say this is a job interview; ergo, the Constitution doesn’t apply to Kavanaugh. Somehow I doubt they’d apply the same standard to a Dem nominee.

  1093. Redmen4ever says:

    Being a man, I kind of like having a second member of the Supreme Court who has been falsely accused of sexual assault or sexual harassment.

  1094. Tina says:

    Julie Kelly
    @julie_kelly2
    30m
    A few weeks ago, Ben Sasse was all over the Sunday shows blasting the GOP. He’s been silent ever since. He’s made no public statement as the vicious assault on Kavanaugh continues. The guy is a wimp and a fraud: amgreatness.com/2018/09/11/the…

    Another gutless wonder. But he laughs at n word jokes.

  1095. Redmen4ever says:

    Both Fox and NBC have President Trump running ahead of Generic Republican.