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Post Election Day Thread

Election Night is over
Democrats win the US House
Republicans gain in the US Senate
Villanova beats Morgan State 100-77
Larry Hogan easily wins a second term in Maryland although it seems like the rest of the Republican Party in Maryland got wiped out

I’ve said it many times over the past couple years, but I hope this upcoming cycle to get much more engaged on this site than I have been over the past few years and get back to what it was in the past.

Posted by Dave at 6:20 am
Filed under: General | Comments (662)

662 Responses to “Post Election Day Thread”

  1. Tgca says:

    Uno Bebe! Uno!

  2. Tgca says:

    Ok. My final predictions is

    Senate 54R 46D/I
    House 227D/I 208R
    Gov 26R, 24D/I

    Let’s see how close I get.

  3. Wes says:

    Nevada clearly hates Trump. It sucks Heller lost.

  4. Tgca says:

    Did Dave W. just dis us?

    I’ve said it many times over the past couple years, but I hope this upcoming cycle to get much more engaged on this site than I have been over the past few years and get back to what it was in the past.

  5. Wes says:

    Renacci held Brown to a 53-47 victory. Had Renacci not been declared DOA early on he might have won.

  6. Wes says:

    I’m surprised Donnelly lost so easily.

  7. marc says:

    I predicted 54 GOP Senators in the new Congress and it looks like it will be 55. A solid majority that is now out of the thumb of Murkowski and Collins. Executive/judicial confirmations can now sail through the Senate will breeze. First thing up for McConnell in the new Congress will be to get rid of the 36 hour wait time to have confirmation votes, that will be a day one reform.

  8. Wes says:

    Like Obama before him and to a lesser extent GWB before that, Trump is a wedge-issue pol with a specific constituency that irritates those outside it. Last night’s mixed bag of results shows Trump has work to do to ensure his reelection in 2020 though he clearly has a path to victory if he can be like Clinton in 1996 and peel off voters antipathetic to him.

  9. marc says:

    My state of Florida once again proves to have the best GOP organization in the country. Out massive GOTV effort gets out every single vote to spare and we can thank that for come from behind upset victories in the Gov and Senate races. No Democrat has been elected Gov since 1994, a full generation ago.

    The GOP also sweep all the statewide elected office once again from AG Ashley Moody who replaces Pam Bondi, CFO Jimmy Patronis won his race and Matt Caldwell beat Dem super candidate Nikki Fried for Ag Com.

  10. Tgca says:

    The election reflects the nation. Divided govt. The GOP has the power where it counts most though. They will pack the courts, hopefully, to level the playing field to offset the radical left.

    House Dems willl want to go further left. No meaningful immigration reform any time soon. Trump will use ex orders to trump the Dems on certain issues.

    Dems will try to roll back taxes and impeach Trump because they hate his Tweets. Competing investigations in House and Senate.

    If economy stays on track and House Dems go bonkers,Trump benefits for 2020. House diffetential is not great since many seats Dems won are GOP retirements. Expect GOP to win back many in 2020 and pick up AL Senate too. Expect Pelosi to resign because she will now be deemed too moderate for the leftward lurch.

    Trump will take advantage of this and use it to his benefit, as he always does.

    2020 is very competitive for House and Senate looks solid through at least 22.

  11. Tgca says:

    I think many on left are still frustrated and will continue to be so with this outcome. They expected to take over and blunt Trump’s agenda. Ain’t happening.

    Van Jones is upset because he expects nothing to change. I for once agree with him.

    Expect 2 years of media drama. Trump will continue with large rallies and tweets and get most of his agenda through.

    I see him working with Dem Hoyse on infrastructure, nothing else. I for one think we need it.

    MAGA 2020!

  12. Wes says:

    Stewart lost by only 16. I’m shocked.

  13. Tgca says:

    Given the nonstop media bashing of Trump with often absurd stories, it’s amazing he has stayed focus on his agenda. I don’t think any other recent POTUS could bear that. I think its because of his his narcism. He does not care what they say and just keeps pushing.

    MSM has been exposed and hurt tremendously. I doubt they will recover. Most see them as just another partisan group so their influence will continue to wane.

    The next 2 years will NOT be boring folks.

  14. marc says:

    Ohio was another bright spot for the GOP, along with Mike DeWine winning the Govenorship the GOP also swept all the statewide offices. Florida and Ohio are solid red.

  15. Tgca says:

    …and off to work I go.

    I’m feeling pretty good today. Not as good as in 1994, 2000, 2010, and 2016 after Election Day but god enough.

    …now let’s see what Ginsberg does.

  16. Wes says:

    Handel lost. She clearly wasn’t the “darn good” candidate Jason thought. I always questioned her weak fundraising and bland campaign skills.

  17. Wes says:

    The good news is that Dems picked up several seats for two-year rentals. Republicans need to start recruiting candidates now for those races.

  18. marc says:

    The most shocking losses last night was the Oklahoma City and Staten Island districts and SC-1 to the Democrats.

  19. jaichind says:

    Going off current leads in House races the Dems are on track to capture 35 seats to make it 230-205. That is a few more than I thought they would take. Oh well.

  20. SoHope says:

    Hopefully the GOP replaces Thomas with Amy Barrett on the SCOTUS and we protect our majority there. I dont see us keeping the white house in 2020. We keep the Senate til atleast 2022 and maybe get the house back in 20/24…depend on redistricting. Trump helps in rurals and hurts in suburbs and urban. Overall its a negative unless you are in a very rural state. I am ok with the results. MT stays blue (sucks) +3 aint bad.

  21. jaichind says:

    I think losing NY-11 is also a shock

  22. Wes says:

    Supposedly FL-Sen will go to a recount. Why? That’s far too many votes for Nelson to make up.

    By the way, Florida is the last Southern state not to have had a GOP Senate duo till now.

  23. Redmen4ever says:

    Ds did a lot better in House races than I thought they would. Rs did the most in Senate races than I thought they could.

    There was a time Rs knew how to be effective in the minority in Congress. But, that was when there were a bunch of Blue Dogs. The Rs and Ds are more polarized than ever. And, with the turnover we just had, the composition of the caucuses are even more ideologically pure. The betting line now favors legislative gridlock and fiscal brinkmanship.

  24. marc says:

    It’s a law that there be a recount at a certain %, Nelson is suppose to concede today though.

  25. Wes says:

    Tester is down, SoHope.

  26. jaichind says:

    I think FL recount threshold is 0.5% which Scott’s lead of 0.4% is within

  27. Wes says:

    Thanks, Jaichind. I figured it was something like that.

  28. jaichind says:

    Scott has a 33K vote lead which should stand the test of the recount. I am just fearful of all sorts of boxes of uncounted votes and coming out of nowhere which all conveniently have Scott losing 99%-1%.

  29. jaichind says:

    If you look at the House exit polls it seems the GOP lost the Congressional vote by 7%-8%. If so then the fact we got above 200 seats is pretty good. What is confusing is that means all those D+7 D+8 D+9 GCB were accurate. How can that be when all sorts of Senate polls were off.

  30. Messy says:

    The indictments in NY should be announced within the month. Meuller and Rosenstein will announce indictments of some Americans (probably Stone and his cronies, and maybe Don Jr.) and then we’ll have Trump trying to end the investigation which will lead to impeachment in the spring.

    Happy happy joy joy!!!!!

    I was surprised and disappointed about Beto and Florida, though….but hey, we got KANSAS!!!!!

  31. Wes says:

    Noteworthily Republicans have their first Senate duo in ND since 1960. This completes the GOP sweep of the Dakota congressional delegations that began in 2010.

  32. marc says:

    7 Chambers Flipped blue last night.
    CO Senate
    MN House
    NH House
    NH Senate
    ME Senate
    NY Senate

    New supermajorities:
    OR Senate
    OR House

    Broken supermajorities:
    NC Senate
    NC House
    MI Senate
    PA Senate

  33. jaichind says:

    Looks like outside CA the GOP only won 2 Clinton districts. On the other hand it seems the Dem will most likely have won 30 Trump districts. It does mean that 2020 will be vulnerable to GOP retaking the House if Trump wins re-election.

  34. Dylan says:

    We can just never pull a surprise senate steal in any blue state anymore. And Lordy——the Pacific Northwest….

  35. jaichind says:

    Very sad that NY Senate is lost since I live in NY. Who knows what sort of new taxes they will impose on us. Cuomo wanting to run for Prez might actually be a mitigating factor since his strategy must be to be the moderate candidate so he will not back any radical agenda the Dems come up with.

  36. SoHope says:

    Arent there a lot of tester precincts out Gatlin co and Missoula co…i would think that eats a 2k lead.

  37. jaichind says:

    @ SoHope 36 … good point. A quick math of those 2 counties and Cascade indicates that Tester could gain around 5500 votes. And the lead is only around 2K. Yeah .. seems like we will miss this one.

  38. SoHope says:

    Montana Republicans and West Virginia Republicans get a big middle finger from me for their ticket splitting BS

  39. Wes says:

    Well, I’m not going to call MT for Tester till he actually obtains a lead.

  40. Avi says:

    Messy,
    More likely Gestapo Chief Müller will get investigated for prosecutorial abuse and will be shipped to Nuremberg where he belongs.

  41. Bitterlaw says:

    I told my daughter that I am seriously considering running for Congress in PA-05 in 2020. She begged me to not do it because she will be a Senior in high school and does not want to draw attention to her or see negative ads about me on tv. I explained that if I don’t run in 2020 the woman holding the seat will be entrenched for years and I will have no chance to ever win. Stay tuned….

  42. jason says:

    Bitter, you need to start funding your campaign now.

    I will start the HHR PAC for you as soon as authorized.

  43. jason says:

    but hey, we got KANSAS!!!!!”

    Don’t forget to thank mnw and NYC!

  44. Todd McCain says:

    Looking at the House it appears that the folks that didn’t adequately prepare lost and those that worked for it won; Def some surprises sad Curbelo lost. Crazy on that OK race and the Sanford district; but they were really the only true surprises — Fitzpatrick winning in PA was huge. Rosendale ahead by 2000-3000 votes. Can he hold?

  45. Gpo says:

    What is consensus on Montana at the moment ?

  46. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The GOP has just declared victory in the MN CD-1 House seat by 1500 votes.This is a switch from D to R; one of the few.

    Election results
    Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
    50.3% Jim Hagedorn GOP 145,813
    49.7% Dan Feehan Dem 144,258
    99.7% of precincts reporting (696/698)
    290,071 total votes

  47. MichiganGuy says:

    With all things considered not to bad of a night. We knew if, we didn’t get the Indies on our side we would lose the House. I thought they would vote Republican do to the great economy but, I was wrong and unlike MD I will not have a midlife crisis over it. That is also why we lost Nevada. I knew we would lose Michigan Gov. & Senate races plus SOS and probably the AG too. At least Republicans still control both House and State legislatures. We will have either 54 or 55 Senate seats so, bring on the conservative Judges! I like to say a special goodbye to the following Senators not in any particular order. BYE Corker, Flake, Heitkamp, McCaskill, Donnelly, Nelson, and hopefully Tester too.

  48. jason says:

    From Instapundit:

    “US Senate for Texas

    2012, Paul Sadler
    Raised: $705,027
    Votes: 3,194,927
    $/Vote: $0.22each

    2018, Beto O’Rourke
    Raised: $69,240,350+
    Votes (11:33pm ET): 3,413,259+
    $/Vote: $20.29 each

  49. MichiganGuy says:

    The counties that are left to count in the Montana Senate race are:
    .
    Cascade County – county 83% in
    Gallatin County – county 81% in
    Hill County – county 88% in
    Missoula County – county 73% in
    .
    All these Counties have gone for Tester so, it looks like Tester will win.

  50. Tom says:

    So now we have “Sanctuary County” Calvin Ball as county executive in Howard Co., MD. God help us.

  51. dblaikie says:

    I am not an expert in Montana voting but Rosendale’s lead according to the Sec. of State is still around 3000 votes. Now in a state like Florida that doesn’t mean much. But in a state where there is probably more deer than people that may be harder to overcome than folks realize.

    By the way the worst thing, personally, last night was to admit that I had egg on my face concerning the House. But the best thing was that this morning Donald Trump will soon have a justice department that works. Sessions will be gone. The Senate will have the votes to replace him with a well qualified nominee. Rosenstein will no longer be over Mueller. In fact watch him produce his report very quickly.

  52. Bitterlaw says:

    Losing the House sucks. No way to spin it. Trying to say it could have been worse is like saying at least nobody was eaten by sharks when Titanic sank.

  53. jason says:

    I don’t see where Tester gets 5500 votes.

    In Cascade he managed a 2000 vote lead with 83%. He could get another 250 there. Or not, there were a lot of Rosendale precincts in that county.

    Gallantin was a 60-40 split for Tester there are about 4k votes outstanding. Tester could net another 800 there.

    Missoula is the 800lb gorilla. There could still be 7500 votes there, and Tester is winning 2 to 1. That would give him another 2400.

    So I estimate Tester could net another 3450 votes and he is down 2000.

    Certainly close enough for a recount.

  54. dblaikie says:

    Michigan, don’t want to argue with you. But as someone from the area where the buffalo roam. 83 percent in Cascade County only means a couple of thousand votes. The big dog in the fight is Missoula County it 109000 people (not registered voters but everyone), 27% of that is around 27500. Now subtract all those under 18, and then subtract those who aren’t registered, then subtract the registered who don’t vote. Oh well, you get the picture.

    Bottom line this thing is going to be very close. But I wouldn’t count Rosendale out.

    One more thought, have you considered that the City vote is in, and the 27% are mainly in more red areas. Just food for thought.

  55. dblaikie says:

    Sorry for the poorly written post. Up most of the night — a little groggy.

  56. MichiganGuy says:

    BL, I’m not trying to spin anything. I’m just saying it’s not a big surprise. Also, if all the dems do is try to impeach Trump we will get the House back in 2 years. I’m happy with the Senate. The whole reason I voted for Trump was to appoint conservative Judges.

  57. jason says:

    I didn’t notice Hill county.

    But it won’t give Tester much.

    Tester got 1000 votes more than Rosendale over 90%, he could net another 100 there.

    At this point it could make the difference but in my view if Tester wins it won’t be by much more than 1500.

  58. MichiganGuy says:

    dblaikie, you maybe right. I just hope the dems don’t find a truck load of votes some where.

  59. Bitterlaw says:

    Dave wants to get us back to the early days of HHR? Cool. I really lost touch with the intrigue of Howard County zoning meetings and local library committees.

  60. jason says:

    We don’t know where the outstanding precincts are, to dblaikie’s point. For all we know they could all be Rosendale precincts even in counties where he lost.

    It looks like Tester will eke out a narrow win, but we should wait for the results before declaring him the winner.

  61. Big Joe says:

    Do it Dave. I want to re-live the days of the delbov curve, ahistoric elections, and Eph Rove chasing chubbies.

    Big Joe

  62. jason says:

    So CA was a bust for Dems in House races?

    As far as I can see they got Rorhbacher and that’s it.

    Is Kim a flip to the GOP?

  63. BayernFan says:

    Why has Arizona not been “called”? Politico shows 99% in.

  64. jason says:

    Hey Big Joe, has your Marxist candidate for Governor conceded yet?

  65. Wes says:

    Unsurprisingly RRH is already declaring 2020 to be a loss for the GOP.

  66. Todd McCain says:

    CA 48 and CA 49; other than that a bust.

  67. jason says:

    CNN only shows 75% in.

    McSally 850k
    Pink Tutu 834k

    what are the Politico numbers?

  68. dblaikie says:

    The troublesome thing about some these ultra rural states it is hard to know where the votes are. According to the Washington Post counties like Yellowstone, and Flathead counties still have votes out. Those are Rosendale counties with lots of votes.

  69. Tina says:

    At Marketwatch,

    Drats flip House, Rs “appear” to have strengthen themselves in the senate.

  70. jason says:

    Maybe they got 3, I see 25 looks like it flipped too.

  71. Big Joe says:

    I don’t think so, Jason. GA is a runoff state and when I checked in this morning, Kemp was above 50% but not by much so the race was not called.

    Also watching GA-6 (Handel v Osoff district) which appears very close. Handel was ahead by a few hundred votes with 99% in last night. But this morning, McBath was ahead with 100% in. Not sure what (if anything) is outstanding but it would be a satisfying consolation prize for GA Democrats.

    Big Joe

  72. Big Joe says:

    I see no path for the Democrats to re-take the Senate unless they move to the center. The built-in advantage is too great.

    Proud O, talking to you bro.

    Big Joe

  73. Wes says:

    In my gubernatorial predictions, I went 32-4. I had the GOP winning KS and NV and losing FL and IA.

    In Senate predictions pending the MT results , I have gone 32-2, calling NV and FL wrong. I hope Rosendale hangs on in MT and makes me 31-3.

  74. jaichind says:

    @53 jason. I think where we differ is Missoula. The lead is 19843 to 10360 with 27% left. So (19843-10360)*(.27/.73) = ~3500 . Hopefully the rest of Missoula is a lot more pro-Rosendale

  75. Tina says:

    So the House Drats will issue subpoenas to the Preisident for his tax returns and Muh Russian matters,

    Good way to provoke a constitutional crisis.

    I just love their “new” tone.

  76. jason says:

    Those counties show 100% on CNN.

    Of course CNN showed the R with a 10k lead with 99% in CT last night which was BS.

  77. dblaikie says:

    71 They want to force a runoff in the courts. That is what that screechy speech was about last night. The dems know they can’t get the votes for an automatic runoff. You can bet that they have already begun the judge shopping.

  78. Wes says:

    GA has runoffs ONLY if no one gets 50% or higher. Abrams can’t force one—which she would lose anyway.

  79. dblaikie says:

    The precincts are in for Arizona. Provisional, Military and absentee ballots need to counted. McSally should win.

  80. Big Joe says:

    dblaikie, I don’t know what you mean by “force” a runoff.

    Regardless, Abramas can not win a runoff as the Libertarian will no longer be on the ballot in that case.

    Big Joe

  81. Tina says:

    Big Joe, I queried Tim about this last night,

    Where is the New Black Pantherd in all of this?

  82. dblaikie says:

    Oh how I hope the Dems will once again overreach with their new very slim majority. That is just what the nation wants a bunch of Kavanaugh hearing type stuff going on all the time. If they do that, the House will flip bright red in two years.

  83. marc says:

    Just hearing about Montana, last time I check Rosendale was up 7,000 votes. What a bummer, how does that liberal fat pig Tester keep getting elected and for the third time. Ugh I’m disgusted. President Trump worked so hard on that race too.

  84. BayernFan says:

    didn’t nelson concede last night? I know gillum did.

  85. Big Joe says:

    Hey Tina,

    I’m thinking of selling a bunch of investments and pouring the money into real estate.

    I haven’t kept up with the New Black Panthers or the Georgia Militia. Apparently, that will be the first battle of the 2nd American Civil War. Rumor has it that if Hillary won, the GA Militia was ready to “act,” whatever that means.

    Big Joe

  86. dblaikie says:

    She is going to claim that there was corruption in the vote because Reid is Sec. of State. Racism, racism, racism is going to be their mantra. I tell you, she plans to take the election returns to court and have them declared bogus thus forcing a runoff.

  87. jaichind says:

    @85 BayernFan, I think FL laws are even if Nelson concedes by law there must be a recount given the size of victory is less than 0.5%

  88. Big Joe says:

    OK dblaikie.

    Big Joe

  89. Wes says:

    Good luck, DB. She has no chance with that strategy.

  90. Robbie says:

    The election was NOT good for the Republican Party. I know that’s not what many in this forum think, but it was a really bad night. Republicans were routed in the House and the suburbs were, as I suspected, a killing field. On top of that, Republicans lost six governorships including Wisconsin. And worst of all, it appears Republicans lost more than 330 state legislative seats (that number includes the special elections over the last two years).

    Yes, the surprise gubernatorial wins in FL and OH were great and the wins in the Senate wins were as well. Republicans can now continue to confirm judges, but Senate races are not spread out evenly over the country. Had the 2016 class been up last night, the result would have been far different. Thank your lucky stars this group of Democrats was up this year.

    The beatdown in the House and, just as importantly, the losses in the state legislatures signal a country that has moved away from Trump and the Republicans. As I repeatedly noted for 18 months, Trump’s low approval rating was a flashing red light that bad news was on the way. He was a lead weight around the necks of House Republicans and many others. And if Trump’s approval rating does not improve, it will signal bad things for 2020. That’s just the way it works.

    Again, it is great Republicans held and even gained in the Senate and I hope Clarence Thomas sees the writing on the wall and retires while they have this sizable majority. It won’t take the votes of Murkowski or Collins to confirm Amy Coney Barrett. Regardless, the Senate was the only bright spot.

  91. dblaikie says:

    Marc, don’t count Rosendale out yet. Jason is right, just wait for the whole vote. We don’t know what precincts are left. If they are around Montana State then Tester could win very easily. But maybe they are in the farming and ranching areas of Missoula County (It is a big county) then Rosendale will win. Just be patient.

  92. Tina says:

    Big Joe,myou may have missed the real estate boom.

    2010/2011 were the lows.

    Not sure of your locale.

    It seems like the market is due for a correction.

  93. Tina says:

    So, was Az called?

  94. Tina says:

    Trump will do a presser today.

  95. Tina says:

    Looks like some voter fraud in Texas.

    Governor is looking into it,

  96. Big Joe says:

    Yes Tina, yes would have been nice to get into real estate earlier, but oh well, the market hasn’t been too bad so no biggie.

    Going forward, I see the stock market coming down but real estate holding steady.

    Plus, kids are bigger now and wife wants to move, so I kinda don’t have a choice. 🙂

    It’s been a fun market ride, but I think we are now due for a correction/recession.

    Heading to the Atlanta suburbs, probably to GA-6.

    Big Joe

  97. Todd McCain says:

    So much for Ralston doesn’t know what he’s talking about….that was a good one!

  98. Robbie says:

    Robbie says:
    November 5, 2018 at 10:15 am
    House – Democrats gain 30-40 seats
    Senate – Republicans gain 0-2 seats
    Governors – Democrats gain 8-11
    State legislatures – Democrats gain 250 seats across the country

    – This was my election eve prediction.

    In the House, I was on the mark as it appears Republican lost 35 seats or so.

    In the Senate, it appears Republicans will gain 3 seats. Sadly, I think Tester will catch Rosendale. I expected wins in IN, MO, and ND and losses in one or both of AZ and NV. I did not expect Scott to win.

    In the gubernatorial races, I expected Dewine and DeSantis to lose and I thought Kim Reynolds might lose as well.

    In the state legislatures, the number I see so far is 333 gained, but that includes about 50 or so picked up in special elections so it appears Democrats gained about 280 seats yesterday. That’s bad news for future races as they are the farm team for future bigger races.

  99. sandiegocitizen says:

    I found the comments in RRH this morning to be on the whole positive. They were expecting a much worse outcome.

  100. jaichind says:

    91 Robbie. I guess my response is, Trump/GOP post 2018 election is in a much stronger position than Obama/Dem post-2010. This is true for Senate, House, Governors and State Houses.
    I agree if a 2018 Dem Congressional vote share lead of 7.5% is imposing. But GOP won the 2010 Congressional vote by 6.2% and yet Obama won re-election.

    Assuming the current leads in the House holds. Then the Dems would have gained 35 seats for 230-205. BUT, now they are vulnerable in 2020. The GOP is down to only holding 6 Clinton seats while Dems now will hold 30 Trump seats. With Trump on the top of the ticket and assuming the economy is in reasonable shape, Trump will win re-election and gain a bunch of House seats, if not recapture the majority.

    I had hoped that we could have kept the Dem majority to something like 220-215 but I guess you cannot win them all.

  101. EML says:

    Robbie says:
    November 3, 2010 at 10:55 am

    Last night was a really good night, but it wasn’t a great night.
    ====

    You’re a clown.

  102. marc says:

    I agree with some of what’s Robbie said but thankfully the opposition party are the Democrats who have just elected a slate of the most far left candidates to Congress. Yes lots of voters are tired of Trump, but just wait til they see the Democrats, they never disappoint.

    The Clown caravan that will be the Dem 2020 presidential field will be mana from heaven for Republicans.

  103. Tina says:

    If your area did not go up much, it should remain strong,

    The stock market is overdue for a correction, you are right, Bigjoe.

  104. Tina says:

    @johncardillo
    2h
    – Obama lost 63 House seats in his first midterm (2010) – Bill Clinton lost 53 in his (1994) – In comparison, as of this morning’s tallies, Trump lost only 26 The historic average is around 37 Again, with the Senate pickups, historically not a bad night at all for the WH.

  105. sandiegocitizen says:

    As midterm elections go, this was a fairly decent result. Compare it with Clinton’s first midterms, which were a GOP wave.

    Republicans gaining at least 3 Senate seats is impressive. In the House the Democrats with only a 10 or so seat majority. The actions of the crazy leftists in the next two years may threaten that in 2020.

  106. Cash Cow TM says:

    BITTER FOR CONGRESS, 2020!
    #####################################
    Cow will volunteer to help run your campaign!

    Your elected, scandal-free stint as HHR governor should help you a lot in the 2020 GE!

  107. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 10:37 am
    Robbie says:
    November 3, 2010 at 10:55 am
    Last night was a really good night, but it wasn’t a great night.
    ====
    You’re a clown.

    – No, you’re a clown.

    You know why 2010 was only a good night and not a great night, dumbsh!t. Because the moron Tea Party candidates that you supported lost. We blew gimmie races in DE, CO, and NV because of the moron Tea Partiers. And do you know what would have happened had they not blown those races, idiot? The Senate would have been 50-50 rather than 53-47 Democrat.

    Take your stupid dunce cap off. It’s cutting off circulation to your brain. Blow me.

  108. Todd McCain says:

    CNN is stating that 95% is in in MT and Rosendale has a 2000 vote lead; I did read somewhere though that CNN has a reporting error.

  109. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    ?
    @realDonaldTrump
    According to NBC News, Voters Nationwide Disapprove of the so-called Mueller Investigation (46%) more than they Approve (41%). You mean they are finally beginning to understand what a disgusting Witch Hunt, led by 17 Angry Democrats, is all about!
    7:39 AM – Nov 7, 2018

  110. marc says:

    They elected Keith Ellison in Minnesota Robbie. Trust me they will unravel themselves.

  111. Robbie says:

    Another post election thought.

    Stop posting Rasmussen polls. They’re garbage.

    Trump’s approval rating in the FoxNews Voter data survey was 44%. Rasmussen had it at 51%. Laughably wrong.

    Rasmussen had their final generic ballot poll as Republicans +1. Republicans got crushed in the House vote. Again, laughable.

  112. Phil says:

    It’s all about demographics people. Look, America will be one big California in twenty years.

    Not a thing that can stop that.

  113. jackj says:

    It took six years, but the GOP finally picked up the seats that Akin and Mourdock blew.

  114. sandiegocitizen says:

    105. Agree Tina, the Clinton and Obama midterms were wave elections; the 2018 election was a split decision. The one long-term result is the Senate will stay Republican until at least 2022. Also the leftist marquee candidates in Florida, Texas and Georgia went down. The Democrats did not pick up a lot of California House seats from Republicans either — many were predicting 9 seats.

  115. EML says:

    – No, you’re a clown.

    You know why 2010 was only a good night and not a great night, dumbsh!t. Because the moron Tea Party candidates that you supported lost. We blew gimmie races in DE, CO, and NV because of the moron Tea Partiers. And do you know what would have happened had they not blown those races, idiot? The Senate would have been 50-50 rather than 53-47 Democrat.

    Take your stupid dunce cap off. It’s cutting off circulation to your brain. Blow me.
    ===========================
    Blobbles, you are just an absolute piece of sh!t. You come on here and claim to be a Republican, but all you ever do is post negatively about Republicans. Everybody has had enough of your trolling.

    The election in 2010 was the best ever. Republicans had historic highs in House seats, in legislative seats, and in governorships. Yet you mention none of that. You do not mention the damage Obama did to the Democratic party like you mentioned about Trump.

    Seriously, GFY. You’re a piece of garbage. Off yourself already. Nobody likes you.

  116. Robbie says:

    marc says:
    November 7, 2018 at 10:46 am
    They elected Keith Ellison in Minnesota Robbie. Trust me they will unravel themselves.

    – This is a bad take. In a presidential year with an incumbent president, the incumbent president is the focus. Who the AG of Minnesota doesn’t matter nor does the extreme left of the House Democrats matter anymore than Louie Gohmert matters.

    Republicans were smoked everywhere but the Senate. It’s fantastic and amazing what happened in the Senate, but the House is more representative of where the country is.

    And unless or until Trump figures out how to stop pissing off suburban woman and get his approval rating above 44%, he will be the issue. President’s with a job approval rating that low lose re-election unless there’s a weird extenuating circumstance like a credible third party effort.

    The nuttiness of Democrats won’t matter in 2020 if Trump is closer to 40% than 50%.

  117. Redmen4ever says:

    I’ve been thinking about the definition of a wave election. The Wikipedia definition requires at least net 1 in Senate seats. What if that definition were widened to encompass Governors. Democrats met the mark in Congress seats, and have (with some early morning tabulations) more pick-ups in Governors than the Republicans have pick-ups in Senators. Both of these are “top-of-the-ticket” in mid-term elections. Winning control of state legislative chambers should also count in some way.

  118. Tina says:

    Yup, Sdc, I agreed with your and Frank’s numbers.

    Split decision

    A historical midterm because, I believe, it is the fifth time a split has happened in x of years. I read the article but cannot find it now for the exact date, but I think it was 1948?

  119. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 7, 2018 at 10:48 am
    It’s all about demographics people. Look, America will be one big California in twenty years.
    Not a thing that can stop that.

    – I totally disagree with this. If that were the case, why do Republicans continue to win in FL and TX? In my view it’s because they took an entirely different path with Latino voters than the one Pete Wilson did in the 1990’s. Wilson, like Trump, fearmongered and it turned Hispanics against Republicans there permanently. In contrast, GWB, Perry, Jeb, Crist, and Scott brought Hispanics into the fold.

  120. EML says:

    Robbie says:
    November 7, 2018 at 10:47 am
    Another post election thought.

    Stop posting Rasmussen polls. They’re garbage.
    ==========================
    There you go again. How about not posting NBCNews polls? They off by double digits in Indiana, Missouri, Tennessee, and I’m sure more. But you got nothing to say about that, do you, a$$clown?

  121. RB says:

    Concur with Rasmuusen…but on the same token same with NBC/Marist State level polling…They had Donnelly, McCaskel and Nelson up…Braun won easy…Hawley won by 6 and FL was essentially a tie but they had Nelson +5

    They also only had Blackburn up only 5…thier State polls were off(the last batch anyway) by about 4 -6 points infavor of the Dems.

    AZ they also had Siema up 3…

    CNN and FOX state polls werent much better

    NBC/WSJ and ABC national polls seemed most accurate

  122. Tina says:

    And there is no moderating

    Banking queen,

    Piglosi,

    Schiff for Brains.

  123. EML says:

    Robbie says:
    November 7, 2018 at 10:55 am

    – I totally disagree with this
    ===========================
    Nobody cares. You’re a Democrat a$$clown who doesn’t know his a$$ from a hole in the ground. F off.

  124. sandiegocitizen says:

    108. Robbie, you really go over the top some times. Assume the reason you post here is you would be banned on other boards.

  125. JeffP says:

    Post election…House and Trump should have added health insurance reform and alternative to Obama care that made sense to their agenda. They had already dropped the ball on not addressing it.

    Many of the lost seats were very close margins. Who knows…

    Overall I won $500 on the Senate. That will cover Christmas presents.

  126. marc says:

    Does this make a good point?
    Charleston
    Salt Lake
    Okla City
    KC
    Atlanta
    Richmond
    Va Beach
    Houston
    Dallas
    Des Moines
    The OC

    The House GOP majority collapsed Tues bc even conservative-leaving metros can’t abide Trump Republicanism

  127. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 10:52 am
    – No, you’re a clown.
    You know why 2010 was only a good night and not a great night, dumbsh!t. Because the moron Tea Party candidates that you supported lost. We blew gimmie races in DE, CO, and NV because of the moron Tea Partiers. And do you know what would have happened had they not blown those races, idiot? The Senate would have been 50-50 rather than 53-47 Democrat.
    Take your stupid dunce cap off. It’s cutting off circulation to your brain. Blow me.
    ===========================
    Blobbles, you are just an absolute piece of sh!t. You come on here and claim to be a Republican, but all you ever do is post negatively about Republicans. Everybody has had enough of your trolling.
    The election in 2010 was the best ever. Republicans had historic highs in House seats, in legislative seats, and in governorships. Yet you mention none of that. You do not mention the damage Obama did to the Democratic party like you mentioned about Trump.
    Seriously, GFY. You’re a piece of garbage. Off yourself already. Nobody likes you.

    – Blow me. What you want is reflexive happy talk. Well, go somewhere else then as you apparently did for the last few years because you’ve been MIA.

    Knowing that you’re a Tea Party guy, I’m not surprised you weren’t upset that Buck, COD, and Angle blew unlosable races in 2010. That’s why 2010 was really good and not great. When you leave three big Senate races on the table because of own goals, it’s not great.

    Regardless, stick it up your a$$. It’s been just a few days since you’ve been back and I’ve had enough of your crap too. Get some thicker skin, crybaby. I’ve posted negatively about Republican chances going into this election because the signs all indicated things were negative. And you know what? They were.

    If you’re unhappy about what I’m saying about Republicans, figure out a way to get the Republicans to stop doing stupid crap.

  128. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 10:55 am
    Robbie says:
    November 7, 2018 at 10:47 am
    Another post election thought.
    Stop posting Rasmussen polls. They’re garbage.
    ==========================
    There you go again. How about not posting NBCNews polls? They off by double digits in Indiana, Missouri, Tennessee, and I’m sure more. But you got nothing to say about that, do you, a$$clown?

    – Good lord, you’re stupid. Since you haven’t been around, you don’t know I am the one here who advocates using the RCP average precisely so I don’t get caught worshipping one pol. And I this forum, Rasmussen is treated as the gold standard by several. It’s not. It’s crap.

  129. sandiegocitizen says:

    126. Trump has to focus on suburban Republicans and tone down some. After Clinton’s awful midterms losses, he changed his message and was able to easily win re-election.

  130. Redmen4ever says:

    Robbie, somebody is posting Trumpy language and worse and using your handle. They’re making you look like somebody who lives in a van covered in provocative stickers.

  131. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 10:56 am
    Robbie says:
    November 7, 2018 at 10:55 am
    – I totally disagree with this
    ===========================
    Nobody cares. You’re a Democrat a$$clown who doesn’t know his a$$ from a hole in the ground. F off.

    – Ah, poor little crybaby. You don’t like what I have to say so I must be a Democrat. Seriously, cry more.

    I’ve been a part of this forum since 2004. I’ve voted straight party Republican in every race since 1996 with the exception of 2016 where I voted for every Republican on the ballot except Trump.

    I’m not going to sugar coat things. If you don’t like what I have say, tough. Go somewhere else or ignore me.

  132. EML says:

    Robbie says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:01 am

    – Blow me. What you want is reflexive happy talk.
    ============================
    No, what I want is for an a$$clown troll to off himself. You claim to be a Republican, but you can anything unequivocally positive. If you say something positive, you always follow it up with a BUT…it should’ve been better and the Republicans really screwed up. Even on the greatest election night Republicans ever had, you are negative.

    But what’s the real tip off is that you never, ever, ever say anything negative about Democrats. You have nothing to say about SJWs or identity politics or the rhetoric leading to the Scalise shooting. Nothing negative about Democrats. Ever.

    I understand you are lonely because in real life you are also a piece of sh!t who nobody likes, but GTFO of here too. Find some other place to troll.

  133. EML says:

    Robbie says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:07 am

    Blah blah blah
    ==============================
    I can’t hear you, Wobbles. Please take Jeb’s d!ck out of your mouth before speaking.

  134. Robbie says:

    sandiegocitizen says:
    November 7, 2018 at 10:57 am
    108. Robbie, you really go over the top some times. Assume the reason you post here is you would be banned on other boards.

    – LOL. I go over the top? I respond in kind to what is thrown my way. Also, I’ve never posted on another board.

    I’m guessing you’re upset because I mocked the laughably bad Rasmussen poll that you think is good.

  135. Cash Cow TM says:

    “AS A RESULT OF THE ABOVE POLL, I HAVE MADE MY FINAL PREDICTIONS:”

    [SO HOW DID COW DO?]
    ######################################
    CHECK! AZ—R, McSally
    CHECK! FL—R, Scott
    CHECK! IN—R, Braun
    CHECK! MI–D, Stabmenow
    CHECK! MN, D, Smith
    CHECK! MO—R, Hawley

    xxxxx MT—D, Tester Apparently R, not predict D

    CHECK! NJ—D, Menendez

    xxxxx NV—R, Heller Apparently D, not predict R

    CHECK! ND—R, Cramer
    CHECK! OH–D, Brown
    CHECK! TN—R, Blackburn
    CHECK! TX—R, Cruz (Cruz cruises)
    CHECK! WI—D, Baldwin
    CHECK! WV—D, Manchin
    *********************************
    U.S. House of Rep final
    D 221 [APPARENT ACTUAL: 227 ]
    R 214 [APPARENT ACTUAL: 208 ]
    ____________________________
    (SO COW WAS OFF -6 in House)
    **************************************
    What do I win?
    A bale of hay or sumthin’?

  136. sandiegocitizen says:

    132. The police need to pay a visit to the van and confiscate any guns. However, those responding to him with inappropriate language need to stop it as well.

  137. Hugh says:

    Looking at county by county in MT I’m feeling a bit better.

  138. Robbie says:

    sandiegocitizen says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:05 am
    126. Trump has to focus on suburban Republicans and tone down some.

    – Gosh, who’s been saying this for 18 months.

  139. EML says:

    Robbie says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:07 am

    I’ve been a part of this forum since 2004.
    =================================
    If you weren’t so ugly and not such a piece of sh!t excuse for a human, you could get a girl and wouldn’t have to spend all your free time here.

  140. Robbie says:

    Redmen4ever says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:05 am
    Robbie, somebody is posting Trumpy language and worse and using your handle. They’re making you look like somebody who lives in a van covered in provocative stickers.

    – No, it’s me. After years and years of being attacked, I’ve decided to fight back.

    Some people in this forum are just thin skinned crybabies who don’t want to hear anything that wouldn’t come from the lips of Sean Hannity.

  141. Wes says:

    Robbie is reduced to fantasizing about how Republicans would have lost Senate seats had Class 3 been up to bolster his doomsday scenario.

    ::facepalm::

  142. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:08 am
    Robbie says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:07 am
    Blah blah blah
    ==============================
    I can’t hear you, Wobbles. Please take Jeb’s d!ck out of your mouth before speaking.

    – Oh, that’s original. Another shot at Jeb.

    And for someone who can’t stand what I write, you sure are spending a lot of time focusing on me.

  143. sandiegocitizen says:

    The Mia Love race will not be finally decided for a couple of days. A lot of votes in Republican Utah County still need to be counted. There are more votes to count from Salt Lake County as well.

  144. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:11 am
    Robbie says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:07 am
    I’ve been a part of this forum since 2004.
    =================================
    If you weren’t so ugly and not such a piece of sh!t excuse for a human, you could get a girl and wouldn’t have to spend all your free time here.

    – Ah, somebody needs his diaper changed.

    Poor EML has never seen a picture of me and knows nothing about my girlfriend, but he goes with the grade school taunt.

    Dude, go take a walk on your lunch break and calm down.

  145. EML says:

    There are plenty of people who post negative things. I posted a few times yesterday that there was too much optimism here. But you are the only one who claims to be a Republican and only posts negativity.

    You seem to think really highly of yourself, but you have accomplished nothing here or in life that warrants how highly you think of yourself. You are a loser and get no respect because you deserve no respect. You are as dumb as a box of rocks and are always wrong.

  146. Robbie says:

    sandiegocitizen says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:10 am
    132. The police need to pay a visit to the van and confiscate any guns. However, those responding to him with inappropriate language need to stop it as well

    – Meanwhile, Rasmussen needs to be blocked form your computer.

  147. Phil says:

    Wes, what is your early assessment of Tillis’ re-election prospects in 2020. He along with Gardner would seem to be the only real available Democratic targets.

  148. EML says:

    Wow, first girlfriend in your 40s. Congrats, loser.

  149. EML says:

    It appears we’re not the only ones who can’t stand you. Women can’t either.

  150. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:13 am
    Robbie is reduced to fantasizing about how Republicans would have lost Senate seats had Class 3 been up to bolster his doomsday scenario.
    ::facepalm::

    – 1970! clap, clap, clap, clap, clap

    1970! clap, clap, clap, clap, clap

    1970! clap, clap, clap, clap, clap

    1970! clap, clap, clap, clap, clap

  151. Brandon says:

    Looks like my House prediction was pretty spot on and my Senate prediction was pretty awful. As Meatloaf would say, 1/2 is almost mediocre.

  152. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:18 am
    Wow, first girlfriend in your 40s. Congrats, loser.

    – LOL. I think I broke EML. He’s regressed to grade school taunts.

  153. Wes says:

    NC was a bright spot for the GOP, Phil. The GOP successfully defended all vulnerable seats and limited losses in the General Assembly. Dems won the judicial races because of split GOP votes.

    I think Tillis will be fine. There seem to be no major Dems on the horizon to challenge him after yesterday.

    NC-Gov will be the highlight race when Forest challenges Cooper.

  154. Wes says:

    It was half 1970 and half 1982, Robbie. Now go f UCD yourself, you pathetic twerp.

  155. EML says:

    Nah, I just figured you out, Wobbles. You are a loser at life and come here to troll to take out all your frustrations at being such a loser. Here, you think you’re somebody while in real life, you are a loser nobody.

  156. Tina says:

    Interesting tidbit

    Per the exits

    70 percent oppose impeaching trump.

    It will,not stop Russian Stooge, the banking queen and Piglosi.

    This is an early Christmas gift for us.

  157. mnw says:

    Guys (not trolls)

    WHY is it taking so long to count the votes in MT? That’s nuts.

  158. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:19 am
    It appears we’re not the only ones who can’t stand you. Women can’t either.

    – Oh yeah. Well, you’re ugly! Oh yeah. Well, you can’t get a date! I never thought I’d see pathetic grade school taunts, but this is HHR!

    God I love this place.

  159. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:23 am
    It was half 1970 and half 1982, Robbie. Now go f UCD yourself, you pathetic twerp.

    – Yet another person who loves to dish it, but can’t take it.

    What? No “but Jeb” jibes, Wesly?

  160. Wes says:

    I’m guessing the MTSOS hasn’t finished passing out abacuses to the vote counters, Mnw.

  161. BayernFan says:

    somebody please give Robbie a cookie!!! lol

  162. EML says:

    Nobody likes you, nobody respects ypu, cares what you have to say because you are wrong about everything. What kind of a moron keeps coming back to a place like that? You have to be the King of Stupidity. Here’s your dunce cap, King.

  163. MichiganGuy says:

    Montana Senate race.

    “Early Wednesday morning, Rosendale held a slight lead with possibly 70,000 votes left to count, according to some estimates. The race is still too close to call.

    Rosendale held 49 percent of the vote, or 202,262 votes, to Tester’s 48 percent, or 199,175 votes, according to data from the Secretary of State’s office just before 7 a.m.
    .
    However, in several key counties such as Missoula and Gallatin, absentee voting data shows there are still thousands of ballots left to count. In Missoula, for example, there were 48,706 absentee ballots cast. But the county had reported counting only 30,842 total votes by 7 a.m. Wednesday, leaving a gap of at least 17,864 ballots not yet tallied. And that’s only accounting for absentee voters.”
    .
    https://billingsgazette.com/news/government-and-politics/rosendale-holds-thin-lead-over-tester-as-thousands-of-votes/article_a15847ab-90c5-54f3-ade9-aa04d67a2ec6.html

  164. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:23 am
    Nah, I just figured you out, Wobbles. You are a loser at life and come here to troll to take out all your frustrations at being such a loser. Here, you think you’re somebody while in real life, you are a loser nobody.

    – I love it. I’m ugly, I can’t get a date, and now I’m a loser. Is this recess at grade school?

  165. Wes says:

    It’s Wesley, and, yes, JEB! worshipper, you got the House right. Everyone makes mistakes in life. Yours came yesterday in actually calling part of an election cycle correctly.

  166. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:28 am
    Nobody likes you, nobody respects ypu, cares what you have to say because you are wrong about everything. What kind of a moron keeps coming back to a place like that? You have to be the King of Stupidity. Here’s your dunce cap, King.

    – Oh, darn. I guess that’s one less Christmas card I’ll have to send.

  167. EML says:

    King Stupid just calls every election a failure and pats himself on the back afterwards. Can’t be much dumber than him.

  168. Wes says:

    Robbie is euphoric about finally seeing JEB! partially vindicated.

  169. Wes says:

    I bet after last night Robbie no longer needs tacks to keep his JEB! poster on the wall.

  170. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:29 am
    It’s Wesley, and, yes, JEB! worshipper, you got the House right. Everyone makes mistakes in life. Yours came yesterday in actually calling part of an election cycle correctly.

    – And yet that didn’t stop you from repeatedly attacking me for my 2016 predictions. In fact, you were doing that just yesterday two years after the fact.

  171. EML says:

    Jeb would’ve lost 80 seats but King Stupid would’ve called it a grand victory.

  172. Todd McCain says:

    Tester just took the lead; shame. Still 3 seat pickup insulates us for 2020 and Alabama is a slam dunk pickup.

  173. BayernFan says:

    Tester now ahead by 2000

  174. Wes says:

    And I will continue to do it, JEB! worshipper.

  175. EML says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:32 am
    I bet after last night Robbie no longer needs tacks to keep his JEB! poster on the wall.
    ============
    Then what would he jack off to?

  176. Wes says:

    It’ll still be there, EML. It’ll just be stuck on the wall.

  177. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:31 am
    King Stupid just calls every election a failure and pats himself on the back afterwards. Can’t be much dumber than him.

    – Bless your heart. I was on the mark in 2004, 2006, 2008, 2010, 2012, and 2014 as well.

    In fact, I got called the same names by the usual suspects in 2006, 2008, and 2012 for daring to say Republicans were doing poorly. Jason fraud, MD, and even Phil were often on my case in 2012 when I wrote that Romney was running a mediocre campaign in the Summer of 2012 and he was letting the race slip way.

  178. BayernFan says:

    Umm…Arizona? why aren’t you counting votes?

  179. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:31 am
    Robbie is euphoric about finally seeing JEB! partially vindicated.

    – Ah, yes. We finally get back to Jeb. Is saying “Jeb” a safe mode function for you?

    Hopefully, my safe mode function won’t be 1970.

  180. DW says:

    Obviously the house results are disappointing. Even so, many of these races that flipped were within just a small percentage of the vote. Also down about losing WI gov race as Walker had taken lead when I went to bed.

    But obviously great news in regards to FL, ND, IN, MO, and AZ. Sad that we didn’t work harder to get OH and WV, but at least we know now why Trump was in OH and not MI the last day there. OH was the sleeper race, not MI.

    It doesn’t look good for MT if all those ballots are still out there to be counted. CNN shows just under a 2000 vote lead for Rosendale, and I don’t know how that can hold up with remaining ballots from Tester counties.

  181. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:32 am
    I bet after last night Robbie no longer needs tacks to keep his JEB! poster on the wall.

    – I gave up on Jeb in February 2016 when he dropped out after the SC primary. I would encourage you to do the same.

    My new poster is Nikki Haley.

  182. EML says:

    King Stupid’s posts from the day after the election:

    2004: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2006: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2008: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2010: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2012: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2014: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2016: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2018: Last night was bad for Republicans

    We get your schtick, King Stupid. You can go away now.

  183. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:34 am
    And I will continue to do it, JEB! worshipper.

    – Well, then I guess I’ll have to continue to say 1970.

  184. MichiganGuy says:

    Arizona Senate race:
    .
    McSally-Sinema Senate winner might not be decided for days
    .
    “We’re expecting approximately 500,000 to 600,000 (early ballots to be counted), most of them being in Maricopa County,” Garrett Archer, senior analyst with the Arizona Secretary of State’s office, told KTAR News 92.3 FM. It could take the rest of the week or longer.
    .
    http://ktar.com/story/2297210/mcsally-sinema-senate-winner-might-not-be-decided-for-days/

  185. DW says:

    and there goes MT…Tester up

  186. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:39 am
    King Stupid’s posts from the day after the election:
    2004: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2006: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2008: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2010: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2012: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2014: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2016: Last night was bad for Republicans
    2018: Last night was bad for Republicans
    We get your schtick, King Stupid. You can go away now.

    – Bless your heart. Didn’t your mommy tell you it not nice to lie?

  187. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:36 am
    It’ll still be there, EML. It’ll just be stuck on the wall.

    – Man. Wes gets part of an election wrong an he immediately goes to nasty smears like this. Sad.

  188. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:36 am
    Umm…Arizona? why aren’t you counting votes?

    – They have a lot of mail in votes. This could take some time.

  189. Redmen4ever says:

    Somebody said this was a D+7 election. Compare to:

    Raz R+1 Raz gets the Razzie
    LAT D+14 Dishonorable Mention
    CNN D+13 ”
    Ipsos D+11 “

  190. Tina says:

    Baris has tweeted that the infamous thumbs down vote on obumblercare ruined it for us. It became a 7 year lie and handed healthcare to the Drats.

  191. Tina says:

    Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    4m
    Replying to @Peoples_Pundit
    3. Second, the infamous “thumbs down” ? moment broke apart the indy coalition that powered GOP wins in D+Not Enough electorates. That coalition + Trumplicans + Base = D+Who Cares? But you cannot break a 7-year promise and not expect them to be pissed. Democrats took the issue.
    View conversation ·
    Richard Baris Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    9m
    Replying to @Peoples_Pundit
    2. First the infamous “thumbs down” ? moment absolutely devastated GOP enthusiasm. Tracked in the 80s post-2016 and crumbled afterward. Donald Trump addressed this first problem. No one juices GOP enthusiasm like Donald Trump, the campaigner…
    View conversation ·
    Richard Baris Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    11m
    1. I’m going to show you the impact healthcare had on this vote. I’m going to show you the trends I’ve been talking about all year. And I really don’t care if it is insensitive. The infamous “thumbs down” ? moment did in people like Pete Sessions. It did two things…

  192. Waingro says:

    Tester takes the lead. It’s ovah.

  193. DW says:

    The house races show that

    1) Candidate quality matters.
    2) Incumbents must work hard for re-election and be willing to take off the gloves.
    3) There is no substitute for hard work.

    Look at NC_09 where Harris worked like crazy and seems he will be able to hold this seat once all the votes are counted even though this was at one point considered an easy flip.

    Had all the GOP candidates worked this hard, we would be talking about a different outcome this morning.

    In VA_02 I e-mailed the campaign asking to sign up as a foot-soldier to volunteer for them. They never replied. Taylor proved to be a very poor campaigner and was unwilling to do what needed to be done. He wanted to be the Mr. Nice Guy. He lost.

  194. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:51 am
    Tester takes the lead. It’s ovah.

    – I believe early voting saved Tester. Had there only been election day voting, I think Rosendale would have won.

  195. Marv says:

    Regarding AZ……we’re waiting for Absentee Ballots.
    I thought the GOP has the advantage there. Is that not the case?

  196. CG says:

    Amid all the fights, battles, and name calling that goes on here, all posters should at least be able to agree on one thing–

    I won the predictions contest.

  197. Robbie says:

    DW says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:52 am
    The house races show that
    1) Candidate quality matters.
    2) Incumbents must work hard for re-election and be willing to take off the gloves.
    3) There is no substitute for hard work.

    – I think all of these points are correct, but a bad environment will almost always swamp the party that faces the tough election. We saw that in 2006, 2010, 2014, and last night. That’s why I focused so much on Trump’s approval and why I focused so much on the suburbs where Clinton had defeated Trump.

  198. EML says:

    DW – I will just about guarantee that my state Senator Fref Akshar will run and beat Anthony Brindisi in NY-22 in 2020. Talk about a quality candidate. He will want to grab a seat before upstate NY loses a seat in redistricting.

  199. CG says:

    Assuming that recounts do not overturn them, I will have gotten every single Gubernatorial and Senate race correct, except for … Florida

    I should have put more faith in Jeb!’s ability to get them over the finish line.

  200. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:59 am
    Assuming that recounts do not overturn them, I will have gotten every single Gubernatorial and Senate race correct, except for … Florida
    I should have put more faith in Jeb!’s ability to get them over the finish line.

    – I got FL and OH wrong.

  201. EML says:

    Robbie says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:56 am

    Blah blah blah
    ==========================
    King Stupid, nobody cares what you have to say. Go away.

  202. lisab says:

    my prediction was

    -31 house
    +3 senate

    statistics wins again 🙂

  203. Tina says:

    What happened to the sc house seat, Dw?

    The r candidate had that serious car accident.

  204. Tina says:

    Lisab, you were right.

    Average midterm loss for the incumbent too.

    Not rocket science.

  205. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 12:00 pm
    Robbie says:
    November 7, 2018 at 11:56 am
    Blah blah blah
    ==========================
    King Stupid, nobody cares what you have to say. Go away.

    – What time is nap time? You need one.

    And you should have cared what I said because I was right. And in Internet forms, that’s what matters.

  206. Wes says:

    The thing is, DW, that I think Harris realized after a competitive primary he would have to work hard to win the seat. He canvassed early and absentee voting by sending out young, attractive women—including the one living with me—to talk to people and get them committed to voting for him. At the same time he barnstormed the district and had a solid airwave presence.

    The results speak for themselves.

  207. lisab says:

    my review is that it was a draw

    the dems HAD TO win the house by 29+ and they did

    but -3 in the senate is a high price, which will mean trump appoints all the judges he wants

    the dems lost florida gov, which was the biggest prize of the night, (and beto lost)

    but … they knocked off walker, which they needed to do for union reasons

    soooooo … a draw. if another scotus retires, or if the house investigations find something big, will be the story going forward

  208. CG says:

    Trump is now mocking Republicans Congressmembers by name who lost for not embracing him. Classy as always.

  209. lisab says:

    you were right.

    Average midterm loss for the incumbent too.

    Not rocket science.
    —————————–

    math don’t lie !!! 🙂

  210. Robbie says:

    It’s so smart of Trump note those House member who lost because they didn’t embrace him. Petty much?

    PARTY UNITY!

  211. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    November 7, 2018 at 12:07 pm
    Trump is now mocking Republicans Congressmembers by name who lost for not embracing him. Classy as always.

    – PARTY UNITY!

    I’m sure we’ll hear from the usual suspects this all part of his 3D chess game.

  212. Tina says:

    Jim Jordan to challenge gope McCarthy for minority leader.

  213. CG says:

    He is behaving in this statement exactly as expected, i.e., the world’s smallest, most fragile person.

    He looks and sounds extremely old though. Very low-energy.

  214. lisab says:

    had the dems won florida governor

    they would have had a clear victory

    that would have been catastrophic for the gop

    my understanding is the next governor will reshape their court

  215. BayernFan says:

    meh…..those GOP congressmen can’t complain….they dissed him. they are now immune from criticism? gtfo

  216. lisab says:

    i predict 2020 will be a brawl

    my voting place was very full

    i had to fill out my ballot on an open table, all the voting booths were full

  217. Robbie says:

    This press conference is Trump at his worst. Small, petty, and vindictive.

  218. EML says:

    Not sure how someone who once predicted a brokered convention where Jeb Bush would emerge victorious can pat himself on the back about almost being right. But he is King of Stupidity.

  219. John says:

    Yesterday was old news. Today begins the first day for the 2020 presidential race.

  220. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    November 7, 2018 at 12:12 pm
    meh…..those GOP congressmen can’t complain….they dissed him. they are now immune from criticism? gtfo

    – It just shows Trump is, as always, a jerk, but populists find that appealing.

  221. Tina says:

    TRUMP: The voters have clearly rebuked the Democrats handling of the KAVANAUGH hearings
    9:05 AM – Nov 7, 2018 · Washington, DC

    Boom

    He is not going to do a Mute 43 and bow down to Piglosi.

  222. Tina says:

    Trump called the r losahs in the house bad candidates.

    Got to run better ones,

    Exactly.

  223. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 12:13 pm
    Not sure how someone who once predicted a brokered convention where Jeb Bush would emerge victorious can pat himself on the back about almost being right. But he is King of Stupidity.

    – Not sure how a Tea Party supporter like EML can claim he’s got sense to speak on anything, especially since he got so pissy that he claimed I was ugly and couldn’t get a girlfriend because he didn’t like my analysis.

  224. BayernFan says:

    is he saying anything not true? phuq em

  225. Wes says:

    Hey, Bay, they lost in part because Trump infuriated the opposition party’s base. Maybe the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES can be an adult and not insult people whose defeats he was a factor in.

  226. CG says:

    Trump mocked Mia Love for losing because she had asked for his help regarding her constituent who was being held hostage in a foreign country.

    Isn’t that her job and his job to try to help that person? He thinks she owed him an embrace politically for it and takes delight that she lost?

    Says all there is to say about DJT.

  227. lisab says:

    i would say

    beto
    warren
    harris
    bernie
    biden

    are all in for 2020

  228. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    November 7, 2018 at 12:15 pm
    Trump called the r losahs in the house bad candidates.
    Got to run better ones,
    Exactly.

    – And Tinfoil is back to hating every Republican but Trump.

  229. EML says:

    Tell me again brokered conventions and how Jeb is going to win. Lol, dumbest thing ever said on this forum. Congratulations, that’s quite an achievement with some of the others we have around here. Absolute moron.

  230. lisab says:

    Maybe the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES can be an adult and not insult people whose defeats he was a factor in.
    —————————–

    that would be the gracious thing to do, but

    trump is a yankee’s fan

    if you think of him that way, it explains a lot of his behavior

  231. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 12:17 pm
    Tell me again brokered conventions and how Jeb is going to win. Lol, dumbest thing ever said on this forum. Congratulations, that’s quite an achievement with some of the others we have around here. Absolute moron.

    – Poor, fella. Nap time can’t come soon enough.

  232. CG says:

    He mocked Carlos Curbelo, from the White House podium, for losing in a district that Trump only got 40% of the vote in two years ago and not embracing him.

  233. EML says:

    beto – he lost, he’s out of the spot light for the next 2 years, not gonna happen.
    warren – fauxcahontas would be a dream come true for Trump
    harris – maybe
    bernie – too old
    biden – too old

    Spartacus has also disqualified himself. Gillibrand/Klobuchar would be an almost sure win, which means Dems will not choose this route.

  234. Tina says:

    “The Democratic Congress] can play that {Trump investigation] game, but we can play it better. We’ve got the Senate.”

    Yes, and you have a Justice Department that can enter the equation too.

  235. Tina says:

    Please say that you are going to Redact all of Fisa.

    That program should be shut down for abuse.

  236. EML says:

    King Stupid doesn’t want to own his brokered convention prediction, dumbest thing ever said here. Sad.

  237. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    November 7, 2018 at 12:21 pm
    “The Democratic Congress] can play that {Trump investigation] game, but we can play it better. We’ve got the Senate.”
    Yes, and you have a Justice Department that can enter the equation too.

    – After years of claiming Obama used DOJ politically, now Tinfoil calls for Trump to use DOJ against his enemies.

  238. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 12:22 pm
    King Stupid doesn’t want to own his brokered convention prediction, dumbest thing ever said here. Sad.

    – I certainly wanted one Tea Party clown, but I’m pretty sure I didn’t definitely predict one. Maybe I did, but I don’t think I was definitive.

    But sure, use that as a way to ignore how badly things went last night in the House.

  239. sandiegocitizen says:

    203. Hi lisab, had almost the same prediction as you. 2-3 GOP Senate pick-up; 20-30 Democrat pick-up for House.

    A split decision. No wave of any kind, unlike past Midterms. Plus Democrats lost a lot of marquee races. May impression is voters don’t like the extremes of either parties.

  240. EML says:

    Please regale me with stories of Jeb Bush and brokered conventions.

  241. lisab says:

    beto – he is also a billionaire
    warren – she probably won’t get the nomination
    harris – maybe
    bernie – he won’t be supported by the party, but he will have the young vote
    biden – he could win. but the young won’t like him.

  242. sandiegocitizen says:

    Nice to know DW going to get more engaged with this website. It needs the oversight.

  243. CG says:

    This press conference for Trump went off the rails very quickly, but his defenders will still defend him.

  244. sandiegocitizen says:

    242. It is ironic that Bernie who is about 80 will get the youth vote. But still hearing young people swoon over him.

  245. lisab says:

    i think it was a draw,

    but in the sense of leonard v. hearns 2

    a lot of hurt for not much gain

  246. BayernFan says:

    Trump is right to call out the GOP losers who stubbornly refused to stand with Trump. Robbie would have done the same and lost too.

    and it’s time to realize that Mia love isn’t all that. thanks for playing, Mia.

  247. Tina says:

    AP Politics
    @AP_Politics
    Follow
    BREAKING: Trump says if House Dems flood him with subpoenas, ‘we’re going to do the same thing’ and government will come to a halt.
    9:27 AM – 7 Nov 2018

    Bots triggered.

  248. lisab says:

    my prediction is that 2020 will be a lot worse than some people here think

    even if the candidate is bernie or harris

    the dems will just vote straight ticket

  249. Marv says:

    I liked the President’s news conference.

  250. Tina says:

    He is not kissing the ring of Piglosi, like Mute 43 did.

    Basically, he told her to phuq herself.

    You subpoena me beotch, and I Subpoena you back.

  251. Mr.Vito says:

    I wrote that the best GOP could possibly hold the house if the likely voters were D+5 if they kept independents close.

    The exits are D+4 with independents breaking 54-42 for the Democrats, so they got one but not the other.

    Good GOP turnout, but not close enough with independents.

    3 point swing with independents and GOP holds the house, and probably saves Nevada.

  252. CG says:

    Trump just said it was better for him that the Democrats won the House. Says it means he will be able to get more of his agenda done. Says it is a victory for him that Democrats won the House.

    So much for being “unhappy.”

    And he is obsessed with bringing up the fact that Oprah campaigned in Georgia.

  253. BayernFan says:

    252…. gayest post of the day

  254. Tina says:

    Bitter, I thought you had a colonoscopy. Your ahold will not be your friend.

  255. Mr.Vito says:

    And there is no doubt the GOP lost the house on health care…

    Needs major changes: 69% (Ds won 55-43)
    Most important issue: 41% (Ds won 75-23)

  256. CG says:

    I thought Obama was delusional and in denial in his day after press conference in 2014 but this just takes it to new levels….

    This is the person and the message that people want to run in 2020. Goodluck.

    You can try to rely on the fact that the Democrats have so many problems and can theoretically lose the EC again, even if they get millions more votes next time. All you need to do is win Texas by one or two points, right? It all counts the same.

  257. sandiegocitizen says:

    California voted by 55% to keep its gas tax increase. Utah voted against a proposal to increase the gas tax by 66%. Gas cost about $3.90 in San Diego and about $2.90 in Utah. California taxes itself to death, then wonders why it is so unaffordable to live in the state.

    (As Tina has stated, the language of the gas tax proposal in California was worded in a manner to not clearly say it was a gas tax repeal)

  258. Mr.Vito says:

    Who would better protect pre-existing conditions?
    57% said Democrats, 35% said GOP…

  259. Tina says:

    ed if China or Russia interfered with midterm elections, Trump said: ‘We’re going to make a full report. And unlike the previous administration, we’ve done a lot of work on that issue.’
    9:42 AM – Nov 7, 2018

  260. Tina says:

    Sucks that it went down, Sdc.

  261. CG says:

    There will be a lot of ex-felons voting in Florida in 2020 that did not vote in 2016 or 2018.

    Maybe the ex-felons will decide Trump is their guy and he can keep those EV’s.

  262. lisab says:

    losing (or winning) the florida governorship may very well come back to haunt both parties

    if desantis sucks as governor, kiss florida goodbye

    or

    if he does well, the dems have just given trump a huge gift

    if florida is safely red, the dems have a real problem.

  263. EML says:

    Maybe we’ll have a brokered convention in 2020 and Jeb will emerge victorious.

  264. NYCmike says:

    “I liked the President’s news conference.”

    -Can you elaborate, Marv?

  265. BayernFan says:

    omg the media is so rude and childish.

  266. Tina says:

    Trump told Acosta to sit your rude butt down.

  267. Mr.Vito says:

    Some people posted some Ks that the election was about.

    Looking at the exits, it was about Kavanaugh, Kimmel, and Kooks (recent violence).

  268. lisab says:

    Maybe we’ll have a brokered convention in 2020 and Jeb will emerge victorious.
    ——————————-

    hmmmmmmmm … i sense a pattern here 🙂

  269. Tina says:

    Nymike,

    Acosta tried to hijack the presser.

    He was told to sit down,

    Acosta finally complied.

    The Jebots wanted trump to kiss piglosis arse, like bushie Woosie did.

  270. Mr.Vito says:

    Kavanaugh won the Senate.

    Health Care set the tone in the house.

    The bomber and PA pushed the indies over a bit too far.

  271. CG says:

    Trump just implied that if Pelosi is short of votes in her Conference to become Speaker, he will supply Republican votes on the floor for her to be Speaker.

  272. Mr.Vito says:

    I think two to three weeks ago, the GOP would have held.

  273. Marv says:

    #266 NYCMike,

    President Trump dislikes the same people I dislike and he displayed that in the presser.

  274. lisab says:

    Maybe the ex-felons will decide Trump is their guy and he can keep those EV’s.
    ——————————

    strangely one of the biggest issues felons have

    is the 2nd amendment

    you would think they would all vote straight D, but the dems don’t actually help ex-felons

    (neither do the r’s for that matter)

    but most ex-felons end up liviing in bad neighborhoods, and … cannot legally carry a gun

  275. BayernFan says:

    still no more votes counted in Arizona

  276. Mr.Vito says:

    And for all his antics, most of you will recall that even Robbie clearly thought they could as well.

  277. Tina says:

    Yes, pig lost for speaker.

    It has to be.

    Add in the banking queen with her #s and Russian Stooge, Schiff for brains.

    Who could ask for anything more?

    The president will not back down from the 3 stooges.

  278. Tina says:

    Arizona has a ton of mail in. It could be days before a winner is declared.

  279. lisab says:

    Trump just implied that if Pelosi is short of votes in her Conference to become Speaker, he will supply Republican votes on the floor for her to be Speaker.
    ————————–

    this could happen

    there are about 10 to 20 dems who have implied or stated they won’t vote for pelosi

    there could be some gamesmanship

    it depends on whether someone important in the dems does not get the position they want

    especially someone who wants to run as senator or even president in 2020 — then there could be a revolt

    i’d say 10% chance of a revolt

  280. NYCmike says:

    “Who would better protect pre-existing conditions?
    57% said Democrats, 35% said GOP…”

    -This is a direct consequence of Congress NOT sending a bill to Trump, in the first 2 weeks of his Presidency, which would have completely and totally ripped Obamacare out of the law books, and then a replacement could have been debated.

    Legislating around the edges (socialism-lite) does NOT work, which is why once you start down that path, you can only delay the inevitable, which is never-ending government power.

    If you don’t believe this, compare Chile with Venezuela.

  281. CG says:

    So basically, whether he is serious or not, Trump said he would work to elect Pelosi as Speaker on the floor, over a divided Democrat vote, which could theoretically make McCarthy or Jordan or whomever Speaker.

    On a couple of occasions in this press conference, he implied that he is glad the Democrats won a House majority and that he is very pleased Pelosi may be Speaker.

    jason needs to have a talk with him,.

  282. Marv says:

    280 Tina,

    Is it your understanding that those AZ mailed in ballots favored the GOP? That was the general thinking during the early voting process.

  283. lisab says:

    nyc,

    i just had a blood test here in minnesota, i am a public employee

    $80 co-pay, $700+ dollars! my insurance is knocking it down to about $360 (not counting the copay)

    in ny as a public employee i would have had a $20 copay and probably nothing else … maybe another $20 from the hospital

  284. Mr.Vito says:

    Vote by area:

    Suburbs 49-49

    Enough to expand the Senate in Red areas, but not keep the house.

  285. CG says:

    Since Tester has now been declared the winner and months ago Trump said that he had “information ” on Tester that would absolutely prevent him being elected, does Trump deserve criticism for sitting on this information and not releasing it?

  286. BayernFan says:

    trump wants Pelosi to be speaker…. but he’s doing what he does….a little trolling and sewing chaos on the Dem side….

    to see what happens….

    and if there is enough chaos, he may be able to strike a deal with a Dem speaker candidate over something…. but he’ll need GOP support, but the GOP will probably be too stupid (as usual) to understand it.

  287. Diamond Jim says:

    Who would better protect pre-existing conditions?
    57% said Democrats, 35% said GOP…

    Probably what cost Governor Walker his job

  288. Mr.Vito says:

    289 Yup.

    And the expectation that the GOP would do something about it saved Johnson in 2016…

  289. Tina says:

    If thought the Drats said no Piglosi.

    Yes,me want Piglosi as speaker (given the situation).

    Piglosi today, Piglosi tomorrow, and until the next election,

    We also want Schiff and the banker.

  290. Tina says:

    We also want Swallow whole in leadership.

    Basically, every Drat freak front and center.

  291. Tina says:

    Looks like

    Illegal daca goes before the Supremes.

    And Obumbkercare.

  292. lisab says:

    well it will be an interesting two years.

    what would you rather have?

    a.) republican judges

    b.) a do-nothing house

    not that you have a choice, but unless they make peace, it will be a do-nothing house for two years

  293. Tgca says:

    Robbie is the one of very few in the US who think GOP got devastated last night. He is to the left of Dems in his thinking. Most acknowledge that Dems performed as expected and about average for midterm losses. Most also acknowledge, many of the Dem pickups can easily revert back because they were GOP retirements that the GOP did not plan or fund well enough.

    We’ve ran divided govt throughout US history, and it will happen again. The GOP is in a good spot for 2020 with the House and Senate. As long as the economy stays well, the GOP is very competitive.

    Remember, this outcome is with 24/7 MSM acting as an arm of the liberal Dems. This is unprecedented in history.

    The good news is that the MSM is losing influence and soon they will be a much less factor as the GOP has the courts to balance the bias in the future.

  294. lisab says:

    house: we want a 300% income tax
    senate: no
    house: we want all white men imprisoned
    senate: no
    house: we want to close texas, except to illegals
    senate: no
    house: we invited venezuela to dinner
    senate: no

    etc.

  295. phoenixrisen says:

    Wes, gotta give props to you. You nailed the Senate again.

    Pelosi has a big problem right off the bat. A lot of Democrats are on record stating they will not vote for her to be Speaker, including a lot of incoming freshman. Kendra Horn’s newly gained office in OK-5 will be tested right off the bat. There is going to be a leadership fight in the Dem caucus. Break out the popcorn.

  296. NYCmike says:

    lisab,

    The high costs for simple things like blood tests are the exact reason why Obamacare should have been completely gutted, and taken off the books, and new legislation debated on.

    The system is so complex now that cost will not be brought under control, except thru rationing.

    It will become even more of a system where there will be 2 health systems, the public health places for the poor and middle-class, and the private places for those who can afford it.

  297. Mr.Vito says:

    Turns out, when you run on fixing healthcare for 8 years and don’t deliver, people don’t like that.

  298. lisab says:

    Robbie is the one of very few in the US who think GOP got devastated last night. He is to the left of Dems in his thinking. Most acknowledge that Dems performed as expected and about average for midterm losses.
    ———————–

    nah … he is just trolling you

    he gets off on trying to make people feel bad

  299. Tgca says:

    I also think Pelosi will want to get some legislative accomplishments so I think if she decides to stay, she will work with Trump where she can, otherwise, she may be known for losing the Dem majority more than once in her tenure.

    Again, I’m feeling ok with the results and focused on moving forward. The Senate gains are huge and show there was no big wave, otherwise, the Senate would have been lost and no surprise GOP House flips that occurred.

  300. NYCmike says:

    “Probably what cost Governor Walker his job”

    -Will McCain still maintain his “great Republican” status?

  301. BayernFan says:

    what will Pelosi give to the gop in return for its votes for speaker?

  302. phoenixrisen says:

    #282 — Agreed Mike. There have been a lot of replacement bills that the GOP could have brought to the floor. Cowardice is costly. Three takeaways:

    1) The GOP lost big with indies as the GOP voters turned out big
    2) Health care is the biggest issue with Americans right now.
    3) The economy stays humming along through 2020 and Trump will be re-elected easily. I don’t see any Democrat that could upend him.

  303. NYCmike says:

    “Turns out, when you run on fixing healthcare for 8 years and don’t deliver, people don’t like that.”

    -A clean slate was possible…..but those most susceptible, in the suburban Hillary districts, didn’t want to be BOLD.

  304. lisab says:

    nyc,

    #298

    i don’t disagree something should be done.

    when i was between jobs in massachusetts, after i left illinois,

    i had free healthcare!

    bloodtests for eveybody!

    now i work and i cannot afford to go to the doctor

  305. NYCmike says:

    “3) The economy stays humming along through 2020 and Trump will be re-elected easily. I don’t see any Democrat that could upend him.”

    -Not so sure about this.

    Tariff threats are one thing, when a more balanced free trade is the result.

    If Trump goes too far left, he may bleed support on the right.

  306. phoenixrisen says:

    One Democrat senator up for re-election in 2020 whom I know is chewing his nails off: Gary Peters in Michigan. If John James runs for Senate again in 2020, he probably wins.

  307. NYCmike says:

    The healthcare issue reminds me – Mr. Vito, did you ever join the Medi-share program?

    If so, how is it working out?

  308. lisab says:

    to be clear

    i had a close to $800 blood test, where i will pay approximately half

    and i am a public employee

    with Blue Cross/Blue Shield!

    it is not like i have mom and pop’s insurance

  309. Tina says:

    Hagedorn wins mn cd 1

  310. Tina says:

    Baris tweeted about the 7 or 8 year Republican lie on Healthcare.

    The thumbs down moment.

    Cost us the House.

  311. phoenixrisen says:

    Baris is right Tina. Lots to be learned from this election. It was quite an interesting one.

  312. lisab says:

    i voted for Hagedorn!

    i had no idea who he was, but i did vote for him

  313. Tina says:

    The whole Repeal and Replace Obumblercare was a lie.

    It was repeal now, replace down the road. It was not a concurrent action, until the Rs got both houses.

    Lie on top of lie on top of lie.

  314. Mr.Vito says:

    Immigration did not cause this.

    46% said Trump is too tough: voted 90-8 D

    50% said not tough enough: voted 86-14 R
    or about right: voted 85-13 R

    So Rs lost the extra 6% crossover for other reasons.

  315. lisab says:

    mccain,

    gotta love him … (or people will yell at you)

  316. Tina says:

    Trump can be blamed for some things.

    Maybe he did not invest enough time with the house races.

    But he did mention the thumbs down by a senator many times during the election.

    I think he knew we were phuqee in the house for failing to,deliver.

  317. Cash Cow TM says:

    Sadly, it looks like Tester eeked it out in MT…so Cow DID get that prediction right.

    Only missed one senate seat out of 15.
    I will no longer trust the f-king cows in NV who STEERED me wrong.
    (get it…”STEERED” me wrong…)

    HA HA HA!
    _________________________________________
    WHICH OF YOU MOFOs DID BETTER?

  318. phoenixrisen says:

    2020 Senate Map:

    Dem most vulnerable seats:

    AL — Doug Jones
    MI — Gary Peters (If John James runs)
    VA — Mark Warner (If Barbara Comstock runs)

    GOP most vulnerable seats

    ME — Susan Collins
    CO — Cory Gardner (Colorado has been trending blue)

  319. lisab says:

    the only people i was hoping for yesterday were

    desantis, because i though the other was a disaster

    mcsally, because she is actually a pretty cool person

    and

    the guy who ran against the nj pedophile, i don’t even know his name

  320. Mr.Vito says:

    Russia did not hurt the GOP.

    53-41 people said it was politically motivated.

    Again, the extra crossover is from the politically motivated group… they crossed over for other reasons.

  321. Mr.Vito says:

    5% more crossover for Trump approval voters than for Trump disapproval… so more than just Trump approval.

    So the GOP could have held the house at the 45% approval Trump had if they had won on health care and/or the attacks had not happened.

  322. lisab says:

    well … gotta get back to work

    but

    all in all, not the blue wave that was predicted.

    2020 will be bad though — not sure who will win, but it will be bad.

    i wonder if md will figure out that as a white middle class man, he has no place in the democrat party by then.

    unless the dems grow up, and i don’t think they will, i think they are going to go full venezuela by 2020

  323. Mr.Vito says:

    Summary:

    Going into 2020, the GOP needs

    Economy to stay strong.
    Hold the line on immigration.
    Keep the current view on Russiagate.

    One or more of:
    Close the perception gap on health care.
    Not have a shooting the week before the election.
    Keep Trump approval going up.

  324. Mr.Vito says:

    “i voted for Hagedorn!”

    holy smokes…

  325. janz says:

    Another contentious news conference between the prez & the media. I agree with Trump that the press is overly rude – especially CNN’s darling Acosta. However, Trump’s own self-centered rhetoric does little to ease the hostility between him and them.

    I also think it would have been beneficial, without losing face, if POTUS had omitted personal slams to R House members who lost, and instead chosen to be more gracious with hints of genuine corrective self reflection.

    With that being said, here we go with yet another election cycle within sight……

  326. marc says:

    It’s way to early to talk 2020 but any senate race will of course depend upon the Presidential race.

    Maine Colorado, Georgia, North Carolina, Iowa, Arizona and now Texas will all be states that will be contested and all held by GOP both on the Presidential level and Senate level.

  327. marc says:

    The President is who he is, he’s not gonna change. Republicans have had gracious and respectful like Bush and Mitt Romney and the media savage them call them sexist racist etec.

    So it doesn’t make a damn difference if you are nice to the media they will treat any republicans with hatred and hostility

  328. ReadyFirst says:

    Dang, I missed the Senate by one. I thought Tester would win but I had hope at the end that Heller would hold. Still, not a bad night. I nailed FL along with my FL peeps. WoooHoooo….Reps get THREE SUPREME COURT APPOINTMENTS. Who’s your daddy in redistricting now baby?!

  329. lisab says:

    “i voted for Hagedorn!”

    holy smokes…
    ————————-

    hubby told me to, i did not become a republican or anything

    i had zero investment in any candidates this time. they actually had “legalize marijuana” candidates here!

  330. jaichind says:

    In the Senate if GOP holds AZ and FL then my projection would be off by 1. I missed FL but got everything else correct.

  331. lisab says:

    and … i voted against Ellison

    but he won

  332. ReadyFirst says:

    331. lisab. That was very Utopian of you. I think I hear John Lennon singing.

  333. Mr.Vito says:

    “The healthcare issue reminds me – Mr. Vito, did you ever join the Medi-share program?”

    Yes, it worked great… certainly better than the Obamacare plans I looked at. I had to go to the hospital two days after signing up and the people were great and easy to get answers from.

    Over the course of the year, we saved over choosing an Obamacare plan.

    Each month, they tell you how much would be needed for each member to pay to meet all the needs for a month… it was usually between 1-5 dollars, so we always gave it.

    They don’t cover everything preventative you might want to get done, so you need to look at it first.

    We are ending our partnership with the program after a year because my wife has gotten a good plan as an employee this time around.

  334. lisab says:

    That was very Utopian of you. I think I hear John Lennon singing.
    —————————

    sometimes i listen to my husband … it has happened …

    i just had no dog in the race

  335. Messy says:

    330. He DID.

    325. Won’t happen. Trump said no investigations, Pelosi said, that’s our job.

    According to the exit polls, Trump’s approval was 44%. Ras had him at 50.

  336. Mr.Vito says:

    Florida was R+4.

    geez.

    Rick Scott is Houdini.

  337. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag should stop pretending he is a Republican or conservative and admit he is a Nancy Pelosi loving clown. He has completely lost it after predicting a blue wave that never happened.

    He would sell his own mother and sister into sexual bondage if he thought it was bad for the GOP, I don’t even say Trump anymore.

    His ruse is up, it was never very good to start with.

    From now on he deserves to be treated as a troll.

  338. lisab says:

    funny thing was, corey AND nyc both told me to vote against ellison, so i figured … how can i go wrong …

    and then ellison won … thanks a lot /s

  339. lisab says:

    Amoral Scumbag should stop pretending he is a Republican
    ——————-

    anyone can be a republican, it is in their bylaws

    he and corey are just republicans that think you guys should embrace the democratic platform

  340. jason says:

    For years I called him Wobbie Troll, I should never have stopped.

  341. ReadyFirst says:

    339. Jason, couldn’t agree more. I have much more respect for Messy and Obamacon because at least they have the honor not to lie about what they are.

  342. phoenixrisen says:

    Rick Scott is now a legend in Florida politics Vito. Quite remarkable.

  343. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Over the next two years, we get to witness the civil war among the Democrats. Who runs the party; will it be the far left?

    One reason there was not a blue wave was the Kavanaugh hearings — the crazy leftist rhetoric turned off a lot of people. If the House Democrats go into the crazy mode, they will all but guarantee Trump’s re-election.

    Move over Trump, there is going to be a second political circus.

  344. phoenixrisen says:

    If Trump can hold indies to a split between him and his Democrat opponent in Florida in 2020, no way the Dem wins Florida in 2020. Same goes for the Midwest.

  345. phoenixrisen says:

    Losing indies by 54-42 this midterm should be a shot across the bow to the GOP. Better get that shored up in a hurry.

  346. Mr.Vito says:

    There was no difference in the splits for GOP men and women… they went 94-6 for the GOP.

    Dems held slightly more. Independents leaned Dem.

  347. phoenixrisen says:

    Definitely can gather that the Democrats are very upset about what happened in the Senate and in Florida. They had a lot of indie support and the GOP turnout prevented House losses from being catastrophic and held some very important governorships.

    Nelson talking about a recount now but that is futile. Just sour grapes.

  348. lisab says:

    losing the florida governorship was a big deal

    it was probably worth 20 house seats, maybe more

    and worth probably 2 senate seats

    imagine if florida became a sanctuary state? it would go blue overnight

  349. GPO says:

    jason says:

    November 7, 2018 at 2:07 pm

    Amoral Scumbag should stop pretending he is a Republican or conservative and admit he is a Nancy Pelosi loving clown.

    That’s what trolls do- do not feed

  350. jaichind says:

    @ phoenixrisen 347. I hear you. It is not insurmountable. In 2010 GOP won Indy vote 56-37 and Obama still came back to win in 2012.

  351. Mr.Vito says:

    So, good news:

    -the GOP is happy with the party
    -the party ID in the U.S. is manageable
    -the GOP doesn’t need to win over that many independents to win back the house

  352. phoenixrisen says:

    You guys catch Trump delivering a beatdown to Acosta at today’s press conference when Acosta was acting up again? HOOOOOOOO!!!

  353. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – Colonosvopy is scheduled for December 28th. Joy.

  354. ReadyFirst says:

    353. Vito. Bingo, which is why I’m so happy with the senate results.

    Senate seats, those last close to forever it seems.

  355. Marv says:

    ReadyFirst,

    I am still extremely pleased with FL.

    All GOP candidates on the statewide ballot won.

    Also, the GOP remains in firm control of the state legislature.

    Gov DeSantis will appoint THREE Florida Supreme Court judges.

    US Senate will be 54R-44D-2I……more Fed Judges and Supreme Court Justice.

    Not upset about the US House…..we’ll take it back in 2020.

    The only downer over the last few days was when Army beat Air Force 17-14.

  356. CG says:

    I cannot help myself from this brief moment of self-reflection.

    Looking at all the results, with the possibility that some could still change, but if the way things stand right now hold-

    my predictions

    Governor- 35-1
    (DeSantis R)

    Senate 34-1
    (Scott R)

    Congress 419-16 (10 wrong GOP predictions, 6 wrong Democrat predictions)

    (Denham- R, Walters-R, Murcasel-Powell D, McBath D, Watkins-R, Hagedorn R, Herell R, Rose D, Delgado D, Harris R, Horn D, Cunningham D, Allred D, McAdams D, Luria, D, Schier D)

  357. CG says:

    Jeff Sessions has been fired.

  358. Cash Cow TM says:

    Voters ‘eating’ at the “Election Resturant” on election day:
    ###########################################
    SERVER: And what would you like?
    (to represent you in government)

    CUSTOMER: Bring me a big slab of “conservative R governor”, cover it with a “Conservative R Legislative Candidate”, and throw in a side order of “Conservative R Congressperson”.

    SERVER: Anything else.

    CUSTOMER: Yes. last time I was here I chose to have the “Conservative R U.S. Senator” and was quite satisfied with that.

    SERVER: So you would like one more serving of “Conservative R Senator”?

    CUSTOMER: No. I think this time I would like the “Moonbat Liberal D Senator” you got on the menu. I saw lots of ads for it on TV and they made it sound so delicious!

    SERVER: You realize that does not really pair well, nor go with, the rest of what you are ordering?

    CUSTOMER: Yeah, I know…but bring it anyway…like I say looks and sounds great!

    SERVER: You do realize that the “Moonbat Liberal D Senator” is one of the most expensive things on the menu?

    CUSTOMER: I’ll charge THAT.

    And also bring me a big glass of “Nutjob Liberal Koolaid”–but bring it in a “Less Government Is Better” glass, please.

  359. Cash Cow TM says:

    CG,

    looks like you–like me–had a very good election prediction.

    If they give me a bale of hay as a prize, I will share it with you.

  360. CG says:

    Thank you Cow.

    If I only I needed a toupee, I could be making a lot of money doing this.

  361. phoenixrisen says:

    359 — Hope Trump appoints Trey Gowdy to replace him.

  362. Tina says:

    Boom!!!!

    Sessions resigns.

  363. Messy says:

    Sessions is gone. Some guy named Matthew G. Whitaker, is replacing him and will probably fire Rosenstein and Meuller within a day or two.

  364. Tina says:

    Muh Russian is coming to an end,

    Now, let’s have Redactstein resign.

    And No Rooster.

  365. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    356. Agree on the Senate. A 54-seat majority will all but assure that Trump’s nominees will go through quickly. There will be no more ability of one or two Senators to block nominations.

    Also if the Senate stays Republican after 2020, the Senate can block any bad nominations if a Democratic President is elected.

  366. GPO says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:

    November 7, 2018 at 3:05 pm

    356. Agree on the Senate. A 54-seat majority will all but assure that Trump’s nominees will go through quickly. There will be no more ability of one or two Senators to block nominations.

    Also if the Senate stays Republican after 2020, the Senate can block any bad nominations if a Democratic President is elected.

    Yup- can stop all circuit court nominees

  367. Cash Cow TM says:

    ELECTION THOUGHTS–WV RESULTS

    1. The Rs lost their #2 guy in the State Senate.

    2. The Rs lost their announced #2 guy in the House of Delegates.

    3. About 30 ‘new’ people elected to 100 member H of D…but about 5 of those are former members of the H of D…Some incumbent Ds got voted out and some incumbent Rs too. A number of the R incumbents got beat due to big push by teachers unions who painted the Rs as being opposed to and voting against the 5% teacher pay raise which passed nearly unanimously. The Ds wanted a tax increase to pay for the 5% pay raises for teachers, state police, correctional officers and all other state government employees. But the Rs found a way to give the 5% pay rises without increasing taxes.

    4. Rs retain control in both State legislative bodies.

    5. In this area, 2 incumbent Rs got beat bad (due to the teacher opposition to all Rs vote [leftover anger from the statewide teacher strike this Spring], PLUS an uproar (fueled by left wing) over a new industry that is coming to Jefferson county that will create 150 good paying jobs. Opponents say [I am exaggerating here] that it will kill everybody within a 10 mile radius (even though it won’t harm anyone) and targeted legislators (even though they had no vote on this) and anyone else who favored this economic development.

    The casualties included the 2 R state H of D legislators mentioned above, one R H of D member challenging a D in the Senate, and one county commissioner–and did no help for Morrisey in the U.S senate race (his home county is Jefferson, but he lost it to Manchin something like 10,000 to 11,000). [but lost statewide by 20K)

    6. I think Manchin failed to reach 50%…got like 49.79% or some such…

    7. Manchin’s importance in the U.S. Senate will actually DECLINE since the Rs GREW their numbers there.

    8. The two WV SC justices appointed by Gov. Justice (Jenkins and Armstead) to fill vacancies won handily in two very crowded races over better judicial candidates.

  368. CG says:

    Manchin really went after Trump in his victory speech. (He also took a shot at the Governor)

    He was finally free to do so.

  369. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt got a phone call from Trump offering Sessions job to Walt.

    Walt told Trump to take a hike.

  370. Messy says:

    366. You really want Trump impeached after every committee in the House to issues subpoenas?

  371. Cash Cow TM says:

    MORE ELECTION THOUGHTS–U.S.

    1. We will have divided government–get ready for more of what we have had for the last munch of years.

    2. If Pelosi is Speaker, Trump will make her his foil for everything that does not get accomplished in congress.

    3. Presidential appointments for judges, cabinet will be become a little easier for Trump.

    4. What lisab said….about the House of Rep. passing all kinds of foolishness and the U.S. Senate smacking them down and saying no.

  372. ReadyFirst says:

    357.Marv, lol! Next year is another chance. Go Army!

    On everything else we agree! Today is a good day!

  373. Cash Cow TM says:

    Two of Walt’s good friends in the state legislature won their respective races for county commission in another part of the state, and the WV CD3 race.

  374. Cash Cow TM says:

    Actually, COW was the one that took the call from Trump.
    It was me who told him to take a hike.
    #######################################
    Do you think I should mention this to Walt?

  375. CG says:

    If everything holds as currently expected, here is a breakdown of how states voted for Governor and State based on if they were Red or Blue in 2016

    Blue State Governor races
    6 Democrats
    4 Republicans (3 of which were NeverTrump in 2016)

    Blue State Senate races

    16 Democrats
    0 Republicans

    Red State Governor Races

    16 Republicans
    4 Democrats

    Red State Senate Races

    6 Democrats
    11 Republicans

  376. BayernFan says:

    Bitterlaw….

    As a three time veteran of the procedure…..I have some serious advice. First, schedule it for first thing in the am. Second… get some A&D ointment and apply after EVERY TIME during the prep (which will be 20-50 times during the entire sleepless evening). If you don’t, you will REGRET IT BIG TIME.

    Finally…. and I’m serious here…..swallow your pride and by adult depends. If you don’t, you will struggle with embarrassment as you show up leaking in your sweatpants.

    You will thank me for this advice. Or rue that you didn’t take it.

    I also recommend beef broth. Good flavor that got me thoughtthe hunger pangs.

  377. Marv says:

    Counting underway in AZ again.

    McSally picked up a few hundred votes and now leads by 15,953….49.3% to 48.4% with 99% of precincts reporting.

    Standing by for mailed in ballots.

  378. Tina says:

    Schumah wants he acting AG to recuse himself from the Russian hoax.

    Lol

  379. Wes says:

    I guess I’ll post my preliminary 2019/2020 Senate and gubernatorial rankings now:

    Solid R Hold-

    ID
    WY
    SD
    NE
    OK
    TX
    AR
    LA
    KY
    TN
    MS
    SC
    WV
    ME

    Likely R Hold-

    AK
    KS
    IA
    GA
    NC

    Likely R Pickup-

    AL

    Tossup-

    CO

    Lean D Hold-

    MI

    Likely D Hold-

    VA
    NH

    Solid D Hold-

    OR
    NM
    MN
    IL
    DE
    NJ
    MA
    RI

    Solid R Hold-

    UT
    ND
    MO
    IN
    KY
    WV

    Likely R Hold-

    VT
    NH

    Tossup-

    MT
    LA
    MS
    NC

    Solid D Hold-

    WA
    DE

  380. Cash Cow TM says:

    “I also recommend beef broth.”

    SAY IT AIN’T SO!
    Not BEEF broth….

  381. Tina says:

    Make sure you have your own bathroom.

    No kids, spouse, etc.

    Space must be free and clear.

    Leave no obstacles in bathroom.

    Make sure you can make it to the bathroom in time,

    When you poop “clear”, you have prepped well.

  382. Wes says:

    MT is a Likely R Hold for Senate as well.

  383. Cash Cow TM says:

    In PA, one of Walt’s former students (now a medical doctor) ran for the state house (Distr. 85) in Union and Snyder counties.

    Good gal, but quite liberal…

    She lost 14K to 7K.

  384. Wes says:

    Walt, why are West Virginians collectively the stupidest people in history? I’m sorry, but there’s simply no other way to explain Manchin’s victory.

  385. phoenixrisen says:

    Completely agree with your projection Wes. Quick question, what is your justifying thoughts regarding classifying Susan Collins as safe in Maine?

  386. Cash Cow TM says:

    In MT, Tester won by about 7K votes.

    He ran up big number in each of Missoula, Gallitin, Silver Bow and Lewis and Clark and I think in each of these his margin of victory was more than 7K.

  387. jaichind says:

    @ CG 358.
    My predictions were pretty close to yours
    Senate: missed 1 (FL)
    Gov: missed 2 (FL KS)
    House: Missed 15 of them

  388. Tima says:

    Breaking

    Redactsteins reign handling Muh Russian is over.

    The new acting ag is in charge.

    Absent a recusal, which will not happen, Muh Russian is Ovah.

    No wonder crying Schumah is crying,

  389. Wes says:

    Collins has been waveproof, Phoenix. She won by 23 and carried every county in the state when Obama ran for his first term in 2008. She is a solid constituent servant and has the advantage of a CD trending right in the state. Unless Collins makes a major misstep or retires, I fail to see how Dems can make this race competitive.

  390. walt says:

    Bitter,

    I have been through that procedure a number of times. Take the advice of others.

    Also, do NOT eat a 1/2 can of cashews the day before your procedures.

    I speak from experience.

    Cash Cow says for me to tell you to demand that they give you any polyps they might find so you can put them in a glass jar and display them…but I am not going to tell you that.

  391. walt says:

    Wes,

    Don’t know what to tell you that I have not already told ya….
    ###################################
    See what Cow wrote in #360 above…

  392. Tina says:

    Cannabis stocks are spiking following resignation of anti-pot U.S. attorney general
    12:43 PM – Nov 7, 2018

  393. phoenixrisen says:

    Good enough for me Wes. Tester and Manchin are becoming to us what Susan Collins has been to Maine.

  394. Tina says:

    Matt Whitaker, new Ag acting:

    Matt Whitaker ??
    @MattWhitaker46
    Follow
    Worth a read. “Note to Trump’s lawyer: Do not cooperate with Mueller lynch mob” philly.com/philly/opinion… via @phillydotcom
    6:06 PM – 6 Aug 2017
    Note to Trump’s lawyer: Do not cooperate with Mueller lynch mob
    Even if the prosecutor can’t prove that your client committed the crime supposedly being investigated, he will be charged with obstruction of justice or some similar offense for providing false…
    Philly Inquirer Philly Inquirer @PhillyInquirer

  395. Tina says:

    Whitaker referred to Fuhrer Mulehead as the lynch mob.

    Whitaker will move quickly to end Fuhrer reign of terror,

  396. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    23m
    Schumer: Given his previous comments advocating defunding and imposing limitations on the Mueller investigation, Mr. Whitaker should recuse himself from its oversight for the duration of his time as acting attorney general.

    Too bad, too sad.

  397. Robbie says:

    I see President Loco is back to being President Loco.

  398. Wes says:

    So Jeff Sessions—whose seat Doug Jones now occupies—has resigned as AG at Trump’s request. The GOP would have 55 Senators if not for the CF caused by this appointment. It was stupid and anticlimactic.

    By the way, after seeing Trump give his smarmy speech today, I’m now leaning against voting for him in 2020. I leaned toward supporting him before. I don’t think I can support in good conscience a petulant overgrown five-year-old for President now though. Trump is a petty human being who, I now believe, is seriously going to hurt his own reelection chances as his pomposity wears thin with people.

  399. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 12:56 pm
    Maybe we’ll have a brokered convention in 2020 and Jeb will emerge victorious.

    – Maybe we can nominate some more of your Tea Party idiot Senate candidates and lose unlosable Senate seats.

  400. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    November 7, 2018 at 2:10 pm
    Amoral Scumbag should stop pretending he is a Republican
    ——————-
    anyone can be a republican, it is in their bylaws
    he and corey are just republicans that think you guys should embrace the democratic platform

    – And you’re a dummy who will excuse and defend anything any everything Trump does.

  401. Wes says:

    I don’t believe EML was ever a Tea Party Guy, Robbie.

  402. Cash Cow TM says:

    Trump is a proven idiot.

    just saw him on TV where he said VA congresswoman Barbara Comstock got beat because she did not embrace Trump.
    ################
    Holy moley–the guy is clueless as to understanding the inner dynamics of specific CDs.

  403. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    November 7, 2018 at 2:07 pm
    Amoral Scumbag should stop pretending he is a Republican or conservative and admit he is a Nancy Pelosi loving clown. He has completely lost it after predicting a blue wave that never happened.

    – Well, if anyone would know how to stop pretending to be a Republican it would be a major fraud like you who left the party over Trump and then defended Trump every day.

    You should stop pretending to be remotely smart. Get an IQ test. The results will allow you to murder someone and still not get the death penalty.

  404. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    November 7, 2018 at 2:07 pm
    Amoral Scumbag should stop pretending he is a Republican or conservative and admit he is a Nancy Pelosi loving clown. He has completely lost it after predicting a blue wave that never happened.

    – For more than a year, I’ve called you Jason fraud. I should have been doing that since 2008.

  405. Robbie says:

    ReadyFirst says:
    November 7, 2018 at 2:12 pm
    339. Jason, couldn’t agree more. I have much more respect for Messy and Obamacon because at least they have the honor not to lie about what they are

    – I’m crushed. I really am. I’m sorry I was unwilling to take a blood oath for a life long scumbag from NYC like you were.

    When this horrific presidency is over, I’ll be here still rooting for the sane Republicans. Will you?

  406. Wes says:

    I know, Walt. Comstock lost for two reasons:

    1) NoVA hates Trump.

    2) Corey Stewart galvanized voters against all VA Republicans.

    Comstock was a fine Congresswoman who was usually loyal to her party. Her loss is a detriment to the party and a microcosm of the damage done to the GOP in the suburbs.

    That Trump would be a dick to her after her loss reveals him for the small-minded solipsistic he is.

  407. Tina says:

    Before being hired by Sessions, Whitaker wrote an op-ed saying the Mueller probe had gone too far cnn.com/2017/08/06/opi…

  408. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2018 at 4:03 pm
    I don’t believe EML was ever a Tea Party Guy, Robbie.

    – Back in 2014 he was quite the defender of some of those oddball morons who tried to blow all of those races.

    Of all things, Jason fraud and I fought with him as a team.

  409. Wes says:

    If Trump loses in two years—as is highly possible, especially now that he’s burning bridges within his own party in attempt to absolve himself for any blame for the House loss yesterday—I wonder if his sycophants will defend other Republicans for treating Trump the way he treated his defeated party members today.

  410. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Media is reporting that Rdactatein is on his way to the White House.

    With the acting Ag, there Redactsteins role over Mulehead is done. Doubt that he is also fired.

  411. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2018 at 4:08 pm
    I know, Walt. Comstock lost for two reasons:
    1) NoVA hates Trump.
    2) Corey Stewart galvanized voters against all VA Republicans.

    – Corey Stewart was cyanide to Republicans in VA.

    He’s a disgusting human being. The VA Republican Party should be blown up.

  412. Wes says:

    I don’t remember that, Robbie. I remember when EML criticized fools such as Christine O’Donnell.

  413. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2018 at 4:11 pm
    I wonder if his sycophants will defend other Republicans for treating Trump the way he treated his defeated party members today.

    – I think you already know the answer to that question. Trump could switch parties, perform abortion in the Oval Office, and have dinner with ISIS members and they would defend him.

  414. Tina says:

    Breaking

    OAN is reporting that Redactstein will resign.

    Let’s see if this happens.

  415. CG says:

    jaichind, do you have a way to itemize the 15? Did you post them here? Thanks.

  416. Wes says:

    I wasn’t upset at Trump for being a factor in the loss of the House—though he clearly was—however, his insipid denigration of people who lost in part because of him rather than correcting his own failings that contributed to their defeats incenses me.

    He is an utter scumbag. He’d better pray to God Dems overreach too after this election, or he may well be giving his own concession speech in 24 months.

  417. Robbie says:

    As far as 2020 goes, last night’s results in the Rustbelt and in the suburbs suggest to me Trump enters the race as a significant underdog. I don’t care who the opponent is. If an incumbent president has a job approval rating in the low 40’s as Trump has perpetually had, that incumbent will lose unless there is a credible third party candidate who receives a sizable vote.

  418. CG says:

    We can wait to see if this Whitaker move is actually indicative of something happening, which will turn out to backfire badly on Trump.

    However, this might be a matter for Constitutional experts. Can Trump appoint someone to be Acting Director who is not Senate confirmed? (and the Congress is not in recess so this is not a recess appointment.) He skipped over the Senate confirmed deputies to pick Whitaker and obviously there is a reason for that.

    He obviously is within his right to fire Sessions and would be within his right to fire the deputies as well, but it might be up to the Courts to decide if he can place someone without Senate confirmation into an acting role.

  419. Tina says:

    Emerald Robinson
    @EmeraldRobinson
    27m
    BREAKING: Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein has been called to a 4pm meeting today at the White House. Will arrive shortly. Sources tell me that Rosenstein will also resign “within next 48 hours.” #OANN

  420. Wes says:

    I’m beginning to think MD was right:

    Trump lacks the temperament to be President.

    We are due for a President to lose reelection. If today is any indication Trump is doing what he can to be the first of the millennium.

  421. CG says:

    “Trump is a petty human being who, I now believe, is seriously going to hurt his own reelection chances as his pomposity wears thin with people.”

    Post of the Day

    I know Wes will be upset that I am praising him in any way and might run from the association…

  422. Tina says:

    Eric Holder melting down on Twitter.

    He is going Code red.

  423. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2018 at 4:16 pm
    I wasn’t upset at Trump for being a factor in the loss of the House—though he clearly was—however, his insipid denigration of people who lost in part because of him rather than correcting his own failings that contributed to their defeats incenses me.
    He is an utter scumbag. He’d better pray to God Dems overreach too after this election, or he may well be giving his own concession speech in 24 months.

    – Everyone has their breaking point. I thought what Trump said about Mia Love was abhorrent.

  424. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Fisa warrant on page to be released.

    Also, somebody in Justice or Mulehead will need to explain how or why Papadope was given $10000.

  425. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    November 7, 2018 at 4:20 pm
    “Trump is a petty human being who, I now believe, is seriously going to hurt his own reelection chances as his pomposity wears thin with people.”
    Post of the Day
    I know Wes will be upset that I am praising him in any way and might run from the association…

    – I coined the phrase “Trump fatigue” a few months ago. I think it will become more and more of a factor with each passing day.

    I’ll be very interested to see where Trump stands a year from now.

  426. CG says:

    Trump was a piece of garbage today to several Republican Congressmembers who lost seats, while faring better in the districts yesterday than Trump did there in 2016.

    However, his attack of Mia Love today was especially disgusting.

    He seemed to criticize her for reaching out to him, in his role as President, in an appeal to free her constituent who was being held against his will in Venezuela.

    She owed him a campaign trail embrace for that? That’s how he views the role of the Presidency and how he should deal with hostages?

    Any person who could talk like that is just a horrific human being, and beyond small.

  427. Marv says:

    Maricopa Co finished.

    99% percent of all precincts in with 8 precincts left to report….1 each in McSally counties of Yavapai, Yuma, Greenlee, and Pinal……4 in Sinema county of Pima.

    Fighter jock leads by 15,403 votes/49.3% to 48.4%.

  428. Wes says:

    Had Trump simply said, “We all made mistakes that led to yesterday’s results in the House. I take my share of responsibility and will work hard to better the lives of all Americans going forward,” I could have respected that and seen a reason to continue drifting toward him going into 2020.

    He chose to be a kindergartner though and smarmily batter people who were generally loyal to his agenda despite the electoral complications inherent in associating with him. He’s an overgrown child, and I can’t support him after that barring a major change in attitude.

    I doubt I’m the only one on the bubble offput by his stupidity and petty egoism.

  429. lisab says:

    I doubt I’m the only one on the bubble offput by his stupidity and petty egoism.
    ————————

    well you have yet to see the behavior of the dems 🙂

    it will be a fun two years!

  430. lisab says:

    Fisa warrant on page to be released.
    ———————

    heard that too

  431. lisab says:

    Rosenstein will also resign “within next 48 hours.” #OANN
    —————–

    also heard that, must be similar sources

  432. NYCmike says:

    Can’t dispute the things said about Trump in regard to his need for approval from the congressmen that lost. It is not helpful, it is petty, it is below the office, it is simply wrong. Just shut up and/or wish them well.

    Will it make me NOT VOTE for him in 2020? That will, of course, depend on who his opponents are.

    I don’t see how petulant and petty outweighs liberal socialist, if that is once again the other choice.

  433. Wes says:

    Dems aren’t what Americans will be voting on in 2020, Lisa. Trump is. Today indicates they have a good shot at beating him because he’s his own worst enemy. It’s easy to tune out a nuanced candidate’s shortcomings when the incumbent is absolutely abhorrent.

    Trump should have learned that in 2016 when Hillary disqualified herself for similar reasons.

  434. CG says:

    434. There will be a primary first.

  435. NYCmike says:

    I would also say to Jeff Sessions – what the heck were you thinking taking the job if you were going to recuse yourself? And what has been going on there for 2 years?

  436. lisab says:

    oh i think the dems are releasing the dogs of war

    unless they calm down,

    they are about to lose their minds

  437. DW says:

    The R has taken the lead in ME_02.

  438. lisab says:

    behar today said the gop won the senate because of gerrymandering

  439. NYCmike says:

    One more: if the Democratic House starts pushing out legislation on its own, without input from the “stupid, petty” person in the Oval Office, will someone let me know why the 2017/18 Republican Congress could not have done the same?

    Thanks in advance.

  440. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    November 7, 2018 at 4:35 pm
    434. There will be a primary first.

    – A primary will only matter if the opponent is a legitimate option. In other words, not Kasich.

    If Nikki Haley or Mitt Romney ran (they probably won’t), Trump could be in serious danger.

    If the opponent is Flake, Corker, or some other person who is little more than an outcast in today’s party, it will be a roadbump.

  441. CG says:

    Trump didn’t seem to have any criticism for Dan Donovan, who lost big yesterday, in a district that Trump easily won in 2016, and whose constituents include NYCMike.

    Trump went out of his way to endorse Donovan in the primary. Donovan welcomed his support for that.

    How did he now suddenly lose? Did he need to embrace Trump even more? Would the ex-felon Michael Grimm have done better?

    Grimm is smiling somewhere today.

    and so is Mark Sanford…a rock-ribbed Southern Republican district, where Trump got involved in the primary and endorsed a nominee who promised complete loyalty to Trump. Mark Sanford is a member of the Freedom Caucus and very, very conservative, but had words of criticism for Trump. When Sanford lost, Trump kicked him publicly and privately every chance he got.

    Now, that seat is going to a Democrat. Upscale, wealthy Republicans in the Deep South are that turned off by Trump’s act, and the same was shown yesterday about all sorts of upscale traditionally Republican districts, including places in Georgia and Texas.

  442. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 7, 2018 at 4:35 pm
    I would also say to Jeff Sessions – what the heck were you thinking taking the job if you were going to recuse yourself?

    – When he accepted the job, the concept of a Russia investigation was nill. He had no way of knowing in November 2016 what would transpire in February and March of 2017.

  443. Waingro says:

    #430, pretty much where I stand at this point, Wes. I had to just shake my head in disgust.

    And now with Senate likely safely within GOP control through 2020, one of the main reasons I was going to bite the bullet this time and vote and/or openly support him — preventing the Dems from getting total control — has been lessened in urgency.

    I remain on the sidelines for now, as a skeptic, but open to changing my mind.

    Having said that: to be clear: I will NEVER vote for a liberal Democrat. Never.

  444. CG says:

    No Dem legislation will become law unless Trump wants it. Same as when the Republicans controlled the House and Trump was calling the health care bill “mean.”

    It will either fail in the Senate or if it somehow reaches Trump, he can veto it. That’s why I said nothing will really change dramatically in terms of legislation if Democrats win the House.

    The caveat is if Trump decides he wants to work with Democrats to move the country left. Several times in his remarks today he implied he was happy they won the majority and that it would make it easier for him to get things done.

    He’s either stupid of a con-man.

    I think we know which one is closer to the truth.

  445. Waingro says:

    Anyone who tries to primary Trump will simply be on a suicide mission and will be humiliated.

    I think Kasich is eyeing a 3rd party run — if anything. He has been very coy in his approach these past few weeks of interviews.

  446. CG says:

    Whether the primary is merely a symbolic exercise or not, it’s still going to be there for Republicans to vote their conscience. It may be Jeff Flake. He’s not my ideal President, and I think he lacks a whole lot in terms of political skills, but he is a solid conservative and a moral person.

    I very much believe Kasich will run in the general election as an Independent if Trump remains the GOP standard bearer.

    He’s more conservative than a Charlie Baker at least, the landslide reelected GOP Governor of deep Blue Massachusetts, who might be another option.

  447. Waingro says:

    #448, does Flake have any base of support within a Republican primary though? He’s hated virtually across the spectrum right now in Republican circles, except for maybe like Bill Kristol, who is on an island.

    Most other TDS Never Trumper “Republicans” like Navarro, Rubin, Boot etc. want to vote for Democrats.

  448. CG says:

    Sessions was a top campaign surrogate for Trump from very early on in the campaign. It was very unorthodox for any President to appoint someone to be AG with whom they were so politically connected. (Obama and Holder might be close.) He should have thought about this before picking Sessions.

    Any AG of any party would have found the ethically correct thing to do would be to recuse themselves from an investigation of a campaign in which they themselves had played a major role.

    To his credit, Jeff Sessions, whom I am not a huge fan of, showed ethical responsibility in doing so.

    Now that he is fired, he may have a lot to say publicly.

  449. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    November 7, 2018 at 4:44 pm
    Anyone who tries to primary Trump will simply be on a suicide mission and will be humiliated.
    I think Kasich is eyeing a 3rd party run — if anything. He has been very coy in his approach these past few weeks of interviews.

    – Right now, you’re right. But we don’t know what will happen over the next 10-12 months. If Trump’s approval slips into the mid 30’s (not saying it will) and looks like a sure loser who will cause more House losses in 2020, I think someone with credibility might do it.

    I absolutely believe “Trump fatigue” is going to become an issue over the next year. The question is whether enough Republicans get tired of this. The daily freak show is a grind.

  450. CG says:

    When Trump announced for President, nobody assumed he had a chance in hell of being the nominee and was going to embarrass himself.

    You just never know these days. The option for Republicans needs to be there though.

    Trump will be starting a reelection campaign in worse shape politically than any President since Jimmy Carter.

    Eventually, Republican primary voters will have to consider the electability question.

  451. Phil says:

    Between Acosta and Trump I don’t know which was the bigger clown today. Trump pretending yesterday was a huge success and acting like defeated GOP congressmen from suburban districts would have won if they had just embraced him (laughable) or Acosta. A self important reporter who believes it’s his job and his right to deliver lectures and rudely argue with a POTUS.

    I thought I was at the circus. Insanity.

  452. lisab says:

    Most other TDS Never Trumper “Republicans” like Navarro, Rubin, Boot etc. want to vote for Democrats.
    —————————–

    i think you have not seen anything yet

    if the FISA warrant is published you will see that the dems were spying on a candidate for president!

    they are going to COMPLETELY lose it now

    especially since they KNOW the most outrageous stuff cannot pass the senate …

  453. Waingro says:

    “. If Trump’s approval slips into the mid 30’s (not saying it will) and looks like a sure loser”

    I think the only way that happens is if the economy craters.

  454. lisab says:

    I think the only way that happens is if the economy craters.
    ——————

    gridlock is usually good for the markets

  455. Waingro says:

    #452, maybe Egg McMuffin will rise to the occasion.

  456. Marv says:

    So, President Trump fired Jeff Sessions and named an interim replacement. That is probably the least surprising event of Trump’s presidency. I anticipate that the Dems go to DEFCON 1. I hope so. President Trump will lure them into a fight that the Dems can’t win.

  457. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    November 7, 2018 at 4:48 pm
    #448, does Flake have any base of support within a Republican primary though? He’s hated virtually across the spectrum right now in Republican circles, except for maybe like Bill Kristol, who is on an island.
    Most other TDS Never Trumper “Republicans” like Navarro, Rubin, Boot etc. want to vote for Democrats.

    – This hits the nail on the head. If someone wants to primary Trump for the sake of primarying Trump (Flake, Corker, Kasich), then ok. But that person will be little more than a bump in the road for Trump.

    The only way a primary can be successful is if it comes from someone who has genuine support in the party as Nikki Haley does. Right now, I see little to no chance someone like her would try it. But in another 10 months if Trump’s approval has crashed? Who knows.

  458. RB says:

    I think RFK was close to JFK

  459. lisab says:

    I anticipate that the Dems go to DEFCON 1
    ————————-

    i anticipate DEFCON STUPID

    it will be glorious!

  460. CG says:

    Yes, Trump and Acosta both acted foolishly today. And both knew exactly what they were doing and are very happy with how it went. They got what they wanted.

    The major difference is only one of them is President of the United States.

    Even worse for Trump was his calling the question from an African-American reporter, who was merely asking a question and not even stating it as her own opinion “racist.”

    If Trump is going to fire back by calling other people “racist”, that might not be something that he finds a lot of support for in the country.

  461. NYCmike says:

    I am not in Donovan’s district anymore, but judging by the last 6 months, Max Rose outworked him handily, combined with the fact that there were 50K less voters, which is a little less than the number of votes Donovan lost from his 2016 totals.

  462. Wes says:

    Marv, at this point Trump is marginalizing himself . Dems might just have to show up to win.

  463. BayernFan says:

    OMG it’s a constitutional crisis!!! Wednesday afternoon massacre!!!

    Let’s all die on the Mia Love Hill!!!

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  464. CG says:

    Yes, JFK picking RFK is worth the mention. That should never have been allowed to happen.

  465. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    November 7, 2018 at 4:52 pm
    “. If Trump’s approval slips into the mid 30’s (not saying it will) and looks like a sure loser”
    I think the only way that happens is if the economy craters.

    – Well, he was polling in the mid 30’s for much of the second half of 2017. After the tax cuts were passed, he bumped into the low 40’s in January.

    If the economy slows, his approval will slip. If he become engulfed in scandal, his approval will slip. Neither looks likely right now.

    As we saw with Wes in 418, everyone has a breaking point. It just depends on how quickly a good number of Republicans get there. And they may never.

  466. CG says:

    Haley is not going to run against Trump, minus some major development.

    If that major development were to ever occur, the best bet would be someone who did not support Trump at any point (Romney or Sasse)

    If Trump is somehow gone as the head of the GOP, then it might be a crowded field.

  467. CG says:

    What district are you in NYC?

  468. Phil says:

    Even if someone were to successfully primary Trump (one in a million chance it would work) that person would then have to get the Trump supporters on board against the Democratic nominee and win a general election. Trump himself would sabotage whoever it was.

    No, we’re stuck with Trump.

  469. Robbie says:

    CG says:
    November 7, 2018 at 4:58 pm
    Haley is not going to run against Trump, minus some major development.

    – I agree. I was using her name because she is so widely liked in the party.

  470. CG says:

    People who like Trump would have to decide if they want a socialist like Elizabeth Warren or not to appoint the Supreme Court Justices..

    Binary choices, etc.

  471. NYCmike says:

    “No Dem legislation will become law unless Trump wants it. Same as when the Republicans controlled the House and Trump was calling the health care bill “mean.””

    -I did not say anything about it becoming law.

    The point, as it is now, and it should have been in 2017, was for the party in power to assert its Constitutional powers (in this case, the House of Representatives) and put forth legislation, and let the other chamber and the Executive make a decision to pass it as well and/or sign it into law.

    Trump’s “mean” words MEAN NOTHING.

    House Republicans had a GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY to set the agenda, and they punted because of “mean” words from Trump.

    And “CG” doesn’t fault them……sad.

  472. lisab says:

    OMG it’s a constitutional crisis!!!
    ————————————-

    lol

    oh let the trolls have fun!

    the bigger issue is who is going to emerge as the dem challenger

    warren is kneecapped

    beto has money, but lost

    harris is a longshot

    hillary is considering running

    and

    biden knows it is his last shot

    it could be a biden/hillary/bernie runoff

  473. NYCmike says:

    10 – Nadler

  474. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 7, 2018 at 4:59 pm
    Even if someone were to successfully primary Trump (one in a million chance it would work) that person would then have to get the Trump supporters on board against the Democratic nominee and win a general election. Trump himself would sabotage whoever it was.
    No, we’re stuck with Trump.

    – This is a good point. The counter would be 2016. Republicans, who never really liked Trump in the leadup to the election, decided to vote for him because they wanted to win.

    If Haley (as an example) beat Trump and was the nominee and looked like a winner, I have a hard time believing Republicans wouldn’t vote for her.

  475. Phil says:

    We have a roaring economy and have for two years now. With that Trump is sitting at 44 percent. What does that tell you about re-election prospects?

  476. CG says:

    ughhh. I lost a post..

    It was about health care. I can’t re-create it now. Too bad.

    I should get on with my day off…

  477. Marv says:

    #464 Wes,

    I’m pretty sanguine about the events of the day. President Trump seems to thrive in this environment, I think he enjoys it.
    It’s all rather entertaining to be honest about it.

    Anyway, tomorrow something else will come up. My formative years were in the 1960’s……now that was a wild ride. Stuff going on now is fairly mundane, if you want to know the truth.

  478. lisab says:

    the only way trump is not the nominee is if he withdraws his name

  479. Waingro says:

    Now stuff like THIS, on the other hand, is what could bring me back to the tribe. This would be monumentally stupid for the Dems to use their newly won capitol on this:

    “Incoming Democrat Chairman: Dems Will Go ‘All-In’ On Russia, Impeach Kavanaugh For ‘Perjury’”

    http://thefederalist.com/2018/11/07/incoming-democrat-chairman-dems-will-go-all-in-on-russia-impeach-kavanaugh-for-perjury/

  480. lisab says:

    With that Trump is sitting at 44 percent. What does that tell you about re-election prospects?
    —————————-

    i’d say 60-40

    but … the dems have no one right now

    it would be different if they had someone good

  481. Waingro says:

    #481, you beat me to it, Mike. What a moron Nadler is. Can’t even keep his mouth shut for 24 hours.

  482. NYCmike says:

    Spooky!

  483. CG says:

    I’ll try.

    I wanted to say that Republicans in Congress are responsible for what you guys see as the good things that have come from the Trump Admin so far, ie tax cuts, regulatory reform, Supreme Court confirmations.

    It makes no sense to suggest people voted Democrat in House races because Republicans did not completely dismantle Obamacare. It’s quite the opposite. They voted Democrat because they believed with Trump that the GOP bill was “mean” and that the Republican Party had made them fearful of losing Obamacare protections for pre-existing conditions.

    There could have been a compromise on that issue that protected those, but Trump did not get on board. Had he, it could have passed Congress, provided the Freedom Caucus in the House did not stand in the way.

    For the most part, Ryan and McConnell have done good work these past two years, but when Trump decides to personally be involved, messages have been mixed like crazy and efforts have fallen apart.

  484. Phil says:

    Most Republicans would vote for Haley, but there would be enough deadenders to blow her chances.

  485. Marv says:

    #482 Waingro

    See #479

  486. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 7, 2018 at 5:04 pm
    We have a roaring economy and have for two years now. With that Trump is sitting at 44 percent. What does that tell you about re-election prospects?

    – That they’re not good right now.

    The presidential approval rating is the single most important number in all of polling.

  487. lisab says:

    “Incoming Democrat Chairman: Dems Will Go ‘All-In’ On Russia, Impeach Kavanaugh For ‘Perjury’”
    —————-

    impeachment is almost a sure thing

  488. CG says:

    Whatever Nadler is saying, they are not going to be that stupid regarding Kavanuagh.

    Mollie Hemingway may be trying to divert the conversation away from a bad result for Trump.

  489. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 7, 2018 at 5:08 pm
    Most Republicans would vote for Haley, but there would be enough deadenders to blow her chances.

    – Yes, there would be some defections, but the I bet Independents would swing back to Republicans in a strong way and so would suburban women.

  490. CG says:

    In regards to potentially impeaching Trump (which may very well happen), I found it interesting to hear McConnell term the phrase “Presidential harassment” this morning and he said repeatedly that Senate Republicans were involved in “Presidential harassment” when it came to Bill Clinton.

  491. Phil says:

    Trump, Acosta, Nadler. Etc …

    Clowns all. You couldn’t script a more insane situation with more lunatics….

  492. Marv says:

    #490 lisab

    I hope the Dems try that. The rough equivalent of that would be when General Custer ordered his men to dismount and fight on foot.

  493. CG says:

    The Alt-right would never support Haley for fairly obvious reasons, but the second she would say a critical word about Trump, her standing in the party would fall very quickly.

    Right now, maybe not forever, but right now, the Republican Party is wedded to Trump Cult of Personality.

  494. Phil says:

    496

    Couldn’t agree more with this take.

  495. Robbie says:

    The alt-right is a myth. It’s people like Tinfoil. They’re an asterisk and have been greatly inflated by the press.

    Once Trump is gone, the loony bins will be as well. He is their pied piper and they will disappear when he finally does.

  496. EML says:

    Maybe we can get a brokered convention in 2020.

  497. Phil says:

    Nope. The only way out for Republicans in 2020 is for Trump to decide not to run. With his ego?

    Not a chance.

  498. Robbie says:

    EML says:
    November 7, 2018 at 5:16 pm
    Maybe we can get a brokered convention in 2020.\

    – If it stops Trump and gives us a candidate who can win in 2020, I’m all for it.

    #Brokeredconvention2020

  499. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 7, 2018 at 5:17 pm
    Nope. The only way out for Republicans in 2020 is for Trump to decide not to run. With his ego?
    Not a chance.

    – I think the way it would work is someone makes clear they are ready to challenge him and he decides to bow out and claim he’s already accomplished everything he wanted to accomplish.

    I don’t see a man to man primary fight.

  500. Waingro says:

    ” The only way out for Republicans in 2020 is for Trump to decide not to run.”

    Agreed.

  501. BayernFan says:

    sold my parking pass for 70 bucks

  502. BayernFan says:

    sorry…wrong forum…. lolol

  503. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 7, 2018 at 5:17 pm
    Nope. The only way out for Republicans in 2020 is for Trump to decide not to run.

    – Also, I think the only way out is losing with him in 2020 and hoping to rebound in 2022 and 2024.

  504. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    November 7, 2018 at 5:20 pm
    sorry…wrong forum…. lolol

    – But did you make money on it?

  505. BayernFan says:

    lol…. a little…… but will take a bath on the game tickets… (Indiana football….lolol)

  506. CG says:

    It is hard to deny that there is an aspect of Trump’s base (which eluded other recent Republican nominees) that is white nationalist and focused on identity politics and “blood and soil” matters.

    So, that would make it hard for a racial minority woman like Haley to ever win those people over.

    Now, there are certainly enough others out there who dislike Trump she could theoretically get, but it’s definitely a trade-off with the most odious pieces of the Trump base.

  507. Phil says:

    I keep hoping Trump will make a national television address in which he announces that the last three years have just been his own little reality show prank and that it’s all been nothing but a game……and that he’s leaving the stage now that he’s bored with it all….that’s it has just been his own little theatre of the absurd.

  508. CG says:

    If Trump has to make a choice between keeping his son or son-in law or both out of prison or doing something that will make it impossible to win if he runs again, he may not run and go back to his life in NYC. He will he happier.

  509. Redmen4ever says:

    Trump is an offensive person. Generic Democrat could beat him. But, an actual Democrat will be nominated. Could be an even more offensive person, like in 2016.

    In the meanwhile, we have Nancy Pelosi.

  510. Marv says:

    There’s a lot of Trump angst going on here today.

    This, too, shall pass.

  511. Mr.Vito says:

    Yesterday showed Trump still has a path to 270 even in D+4 and losing independents by 12.

    FL, OH, NC, AZ…
    Iowa, Wisconsin, and the single districts in NE and ME.

    It’d be easier for the GOP to just meet, bury the hatchet by tomorrow, and move on….

    But none will.

  512. Phil says:

    So Nadler is going to impeach Kavanaugh?

    He’s every bit the idiot Trump is.

    Simply put, is there anyone in Washington on either side that is sane? Anyone?

  513. EML says:

    Just Jeb

  514. NYCmike says:

    “I’ll try.”

    -Terrible. More of the same.

    The point in doing it right away, in February 2017, is that you then have 1-1/2 years to craft your own legislation. At the same time as the bargaining with the opposition goes on, the free market would have come up with some solutions. The country needed BOLDNESS. We got politicians trying to keep their jobs, or others who retired to make more money as lobbyists.

    In regard to pre-existing conditions, shouldn’t that term be defined first?

    If I choose not to have insurance right now, and then something happens, either it be an accident or a disease, should I then be guaranteed insurance at the same rates as the people who were responsible and got it when they didn’t need it?

  515. CG says:

    What yesterday showed was that Georgia and Texas are no longer sure things.

    There will be a lot of new voters in Florida in 2020. I know some think that the meeting with Kanye is going to make African-American males new Trump supporters, but that’s quite a gamble.

    Yesterday, Republicans clearly went backwards statewide in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania, (plus very bad House results in Iowa.)

    On the other hand, Democrats struck out for the most part in Florida and Ohio.

    Again, it’s a good thing for all Republicans that Democrats do not have their act together nationally.

  516. Wes says:

    It will pass when Trump acts like an adult, Marv. He hasn’t demonstrated that ability.

  517. Robbie says:

    Marv says:
    November 7, 2018 at 5:28 pm
    There’s a lot of Trump angst going on here today.
    This, too, shall pass.

    – Marv, I doubt it. This is who Trump is. It will only get worse. But it, sadly, may take him losing in 2020 to get past this period in Republican politics.

  518. Robbie says:

    Mr.Vito says:
    November 7, 2018 at 5:29 pm
    It’d be easier for the GOP to just meet, bury the hatchet by tomorrow, and move on….
    But none will.

    – Has Trump ever shown he’s willing to bury the hatchet with anyone? He’s still goes after Rosie 12 years later.

  519. Wes says:

    Vito, in a D+4 environment losing Indies by double digits Trump isn’t going to be carrying at least some of those states.

  520. Mr.Vito says:

    Apparently TX and GA are still sure things in D+4 and -12 with independents.

  521. CG says:

    Maybe I was wrong, but when I read “bury the hatchet”, it came across to me that Republicans should bury the hatchet with Trump and stand by him, come hell or high water.

    This will all be discussed over the next year plus.

    Goodnight.

  522. Wes says:

    Vito, maybe if Trump hadn’t been a child today Republicans would meet with him and bury the hatchet .

  523. Waingro says:

    #518, I quibble with Michigan a little bit, CG. Firstly, John James ran an incredible grass roots campaign only lost by 6 points, and Dems only gained a few seats in state legislature with both House and Senate in GOP control.

    Michigan still holds upppppside promise for the GOP.

  524. Phil says:

    Perhaps we should just all sit back and let President Kamala Harris take office in January 2021 She’ll turn us into California but we’re going to get there anyway. Why wait?

  525. Paul says:

    As a leftward moderate, I have to admit to finding a lot more hope here than on Liberal sites today. Liberals are lamenting their losses and are very worried that Trump will still pass an Enabling Act for him to become dictator. I think those on the left don’t know how to handle it when they win.

  526. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 7, 2018 at 5:34 pm
    It will pass when Trump acts like an adult, Marv. He hasn’t demonstrated that ability.

    – This really is the key point. Just stop the nonsense and many of the problems solve themselves.

  527. Mr.Vito says:

    521 Trump showed he was willing to bury the hatchet with Ryan and McConnell after the 2016 election… so were they.

    Some people obviously are not.

  528. CG says:

    It’s harder to win a state in a Presidential election when the Governor is of another party. Michigan now has a Dem Governor.

    Yes, Gov. Snyder did not support Trump in 2016, but this new Governor is actually going to be pushing for the Democrat.

  529. CG says:

    WI now has a Dem Governor. That’s going to make it tougher to win.

    The next Dem nominee is not going to take PA, MI, WI for granted I assume.

    Gotta go. Happy Early Holidays to all.

  530. Mr.Vito says:

    “Vito, maybe if Trump hadn’t been a child today Republicans would meet with him and bury the hatchet .”

    So I was correct. The GOP will not meet and bury the hatchet.

    Trump is part of the GOP leadership, is he not?

  531. Phil says:

    ….oh, and don’t count on Texas much longer. I looked at the numbers yesterday.

    I could detail them for you, but there is no reason to depress any of you.

  532. Tina says:

    Yup, sloppy Nadler is going to impeach Kavanaugh.

    And Trumps tax returns are fair game,

    Maybe, Harry Reid has them, since he had Quittens,

  533. Waingro says:

    “The next Dem nominee is not going to take PA, MI, WI for granted I assume.

    Gotta go. Happy Early Holidays to all.”

    Good point. Same to you, CG.

  534. Tina says:

    Whitaker has triggered them

    I will indict Thighness.

    Release all Fisa.

    Redactstein must be sheltering in place, if he is not gone in 48 hours.

  535. Tina says:

    There is no need to bury the hatchet.

  536. Tina says:

    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    49m
    Acosta forcibly refusing to return WH property (mic) when the staffer tried to grab it could actually be charged as felony robbery in many jurisdictions.
    View details ·

    Is there tape?

  537. Mr.Vito says:

    “Vito, in a D+4 environment losing Indies by double digits Trump isn’t going to be carrying at least some of those states.”

    Yesterday was a referendum on Trump… yes or no?

    The path is still there… I did not say he would win them all today.

    I made detailed posts above about all of this with actual data above and how to turn it around.

    As I said… the GOP would rather squabble.

  538. Tina says:

    Jack Posobiec ?? Jack Posobiec ??
    @JackPosobiec
    18m
    Jeff Sessions out Trusters, Truthers, and Adam Schiff hardest hit
    View

  539. Mr.Vito says:

    539 that’s an asinine idea

  540. Tina says:

    Dow likes the split decision,

    +545

  541. NYCmike says:

    Mr. Vito,

    YES, thanks very much earlier, for both the posts about the Republican President still having a path to victory against a liberal socialist Democrat, and for the info about Medi-share.

  542. Mr.Vito says:

    You are welcome, Mike.

    I will probably be checking out for a while like I do from time to time here.

  543. Tina says:

    Thanks for your number crunching Vito.

  544. NYCmike says:

    Gives credence to what Mr. Vito had said earlier:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/the-shameful-election-coverage-by-fox-news/

    “In 2018, the Republican base was energized by their president, despite Democrats coming to the polls saying they were voting because they didn’t like Trump. This is no surprise. They didn’t like him in 2016, so they’re not going to like him two years later. As for Obama, his track record remained the same. No one he campaigned for won.

    Trump, on the other hand, was a successful campaigner. Though more than two-thirds of voters said they voted for the Senate specifically because of Trump, with 38 percent of that number saying they opposed Trump, the Republicans gained in the Senate. This is hardly an indictment of Trump’s performance. As for the Democratic win in the House, voter turnout by Democrats was the key, not Republican disillusionment with Trump. Independents also played a role, flipping from Republican to Democrat by 12 points.”

    “While Obama lost his core constituency in 2010, the Democratic Party found them again in 2018. Young voters turned out for Democrats by 67 percent, blacks by 90 percent, Hispanics by 68 percent, and women by 59 percent. Keeping healthcare was the voters biggest concern by a wide margin — 40 percent compared to immigration (23%) and the economy at (21%). Love of socialism seemed to have win the House, not so much hatred of Trump.”

  545. Tina says:

    ING: Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein will no longer oversee the Mueller investigation; Acting Attorney General Whitaker will take over in his place – NBC News

    Thank you nbc, so insightful.

  546. lisab says:

    Yesterday showed Trump still has a path to 270 even in D+4 and losing independents by 12.

    FL, OH, NC, AZ…
    ———————————

    trump is the odds on favorite for 2020

    if no strong dem emerges

  547. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    528. “As a leftward moderate, I have to admit to finding a lot more hope here than on Liberal sites today. Liberals are lamenting their losses and are very worried that Trump will still pass an Enabling Act for him to become dictator”

    Paul, that is because those liberals are in reality, except for the silliness about Trump becoming a dictator.

    Your seeing a few trolls on this board who are bouncing off the wall, creating their fantasy world. The fact is the election was a split decision, both sides had wins and losses. Liberals expected a huge blue wave that would sweep away most Republicans; the Republicans expected voters to re-elect most of their incumbents. The voters did neither.

    The electorate is notorious for not wanting one party to control both the Presidency and Congress. Given the potential for abuse of power if only one party is in government, having both parties control a branch of government serves as a check on each party’s actions.

  548. lisab says:

    “In 2018, the Republican base was energized by their president, despite Democrats coming to the polls saying they were voting because they didn’t like Trump. This is no surprise. They didn’t like him in 2016, so they’re not going to like him two years later.”
    ————————————

    trump is very abrasive,

    i would 1000000000000000000000000 times rather have him as president than hillary

  549. Tina says:

    @MittRomney
    Follow
    I want to thank Jeff Sessions for his service to our country as Attorney General. Under Acting Attorney General Matthew Whitaker, it is imperative that the important work of the Justice Department continues, and that the Mueller investigation proceeds to its conclusion unimpeded.

    This guy is an idiot. The and that… Part is not necessary.

    Why doesn’t one of these R Senators demand a full accounting of the expenses rung up by Fuhrer.

  550. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    535. “Yup, sloppy Nadler is going to impeach Kavanaugh.”

    That is like a dog going back to its vomit. The Kanvanaugh fiasco badly hurt the Democrats. Health care was a major issue with voters; it is an issue the Democrats might get traction on.

  551. lisab says:

    Paul, that is because those liberals are in reality, except for the silliness about Trump becoming a dictator.

    Your seeing a few trolls on this board who are bouncing off the wall, creating their fantasy world.
    ————————-

    sandiego,

    nah, the trolls just saw a few people like wes disgusted with trump’s … ummmmmmmm … non-gracious news conference

    and are trying to get those posters to go full md.

    that is a troll’s job.

    as you say, the dems know they lost their best chance to beat trump last night. beto would have been a formidable opponent had he won — actually he might still be.

    plus they lost in florida, which is a tough loss for the dems.

    they were told a blue wave was coming and they did not get it.

    they know they have no one good yet for 2020.

    bernie is still their best candidate of the ones who will run.

  552. lisab says:

    romney still wants to be president

    if trump does not run in 2020, he could have a shot, but i think his expiration date is past.

  553. NYCmike says:

    Why will beto be a formidable opponent?

    What has he done?

  554. NYCmike says:

    Rommney should have been President……but he was unwilling (or unable) to humble himself to the stature of a snake to do what was necessary to defeat Obama.

  555. lisab says:

    if their was a dem candidate like jfk or rfk today

    someone who looked good, spoke well and talked tough

    and was not a total loon

    i think they would beat trump in 2020, and pretty handily

    instead it looks like it will be bernie and kasich

  556. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    474. “lol oh let the trolls have fun!”

    I am sorry lisab, your right. Will not interrupt the troll fest.

  557. Dylan says:

    Ted Cruz will be past his expiration date if he decides to run again in 2024. He will be that cycle’s Scott Walker. he need’s to really consider another line of work.

  558. Big Joe says:

    Awright .. some 2020 discussion. Good stuff! President Trump has shown that you don’t need to have done anything politically in order to attract support and win.

    As they say, Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line.

    I fully expect all 2016 Trump voters to vote for him again. Some of those 2016 voters were Obama voters who fell in love. Who can the Dems put up that these voters would fall in love with? Beto? Harris? Michelle Obama?

    Big Joe

  559. lisab says:

    Why will beto be a formidable opponent?

    What has he done?
    —————————

    wrong question.

    he looks like rfk’s son
    and
    can sometimes talk without falling down

    the people who don’t like trump, who are legitimate republicans, don’t like him because he is boorish, and he is a nationalist.

    a big part of the republican party want a bush-3 type republican

    someone who is very pc, is globalist in outlook and unlike trump, plays by marquis of queensbury rules.

    beto could potentially be a contender, if he keeps away from loonies

    he would have to run as a moderate

  560. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    556. “Why will beto be a formidable opponent? What has he done?”

    What had Obama done prior to becoming present? The Democrats are not big on resumes.

  561. Messy says:

    Under the Vacancies act, Whitaker’s position is extremely tenuous.

  562. 563. “president” not “present.” Freudian slip.

  563. Marv says:

    Pinal County is 100% in and McSally added another 435 votes and now leads by 15,838 with 7 precincts left to report.
    3 are McSally precincts and 4 are Sinema precincts.

  564. lisab says:

    I am sorry lisab, your right. Will not interrupt the troll fest.
    ————————-

    you could not if you tried.

    think about it, if the dems had their blue wave,

    they would be doing everything they could to prop him up for 2020, because he would be a sure losah

    instead they are fishing for third party runs from haley.

    the dems just don’t have a sure winner yet.

  565. Tina says:

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    39m
    Fmr AG Sessions has lots of allies in the Senate who are upset at how Trump has treated him. Unclear if that could have an impact on potential legislation to protect Mueller, which bipartisan lawmakers are pushing. We could hear a lot about that legislation in the lame duck
    View details ·

    His allies are the ones who turned in Sessions,

  566. lisab says:

    Under the Vacancies act, Whitaker’s position is extremely tenuous.
    —————————–

    i am sure the senate will get right on that messy

  567. Tina says:

    Yeah Muh Haley is mentioned.

    2016 was funny though. They tried to prop up Her Thighness

  568. Big Joe says:

    I agree Lisa. Recent presidential elections show that the candidate with more experience and longer resume loses.

    The candidate that generates the most excitement and enthusiasm wins. Likability and enthusiasm carry the day.

    Big Joe

  569. Tina says:

    Messy Lsd, you should ask for the senate to bring up the protect Fuhrer Mulehead act, or whatever it is called.

  570. lisab says:

    Likability and enthusiasm carry the day.
    ——————————-

    it has been true for a long time

    both jfk and rfk were pigs in their personal life

    we named an aircraft carrier after jfk

  571. Big Joe says:

    It also helps to have the political wind at your back. At first glance it would appear that the Dems have the wind at their back in 2020. It’s early, of course.

    Big Joe

  572. Wes says:

    Vito, yesterday was definitely a referendum on Trump in part. The suburbs turned decisively against him. Meanwhile on the macro level, GOP-trending states mostly became tired of duplicitous Dem Senators in Washington much as in 2014.

    As for having Republicans kiss and make up, that would start at the top given the fact that Trump fired the opening salvo against his outgoing congressional allies.

    He’s too puerile, sanctimonious, and petty for that. Sadly that means it’s unlikely to happen because he is too self-absorbed to initiate detente with the people he needs for reelection.

    That’s why I’m expecting him to fail. He set the tone for his relationship with his own party today. It wasn’t pretty. Worse, it was a foolhardy unforced error.

  573. Tina says:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1060312909195198464/photo/1

    I like Sessions, but he seemed unable to handle Justice.

    Classy guy. Here is a picture of him leaving today and shaking Whitakers hands.

    Whitaker is from Iowa and is friends with Grassley.

  574. RB says:

    The GOP in 1994 and 2010 had massive wins but any wind they had at their backs were quickly snuffed out in 1996 and 2012.

  575. Wes says:

    What Republicans need is someone with Trump’s pugilistic spirit and Ronald Reagan’s charm and charisma.

    Unfortunately Donald Trump is what they have.

    That worked against an entitled opponent facing investigation for violating national security. It’s unlikely to work given Trump’s present public persona against a more competent, less galling opponent.

  576. Big Joe says:

    Very true, RB. Let’s not forget 2006 and 2014 where big mid-term wins were followed by wins at the presidential level.

    I do concede that 2006 and 2014 were in their respective presidents’ second terms.

    Big Joe

  577. Wes says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 7, 2018 at 6:16 pm
    Rommney should have been President……but he was unwilling (or unable) to humble himself to the stature of a snake to do what was necessary to defeat Obama.

    With the illusory perception of a strengthening economy and Obama hovering at 50% throughout 2012, Romney was never going to win. His closest approach to victory came after he obliterated Obama in the first debate.

    Once Candy Crowley ran interference for Obama in the second debate, Romney saw his chances inevitably fade to the respectable loss he received.

  578. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    November 7, 2018 at 6:43 pm
    https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1060312909195198464/photo/1
    I like Sessions, but he seemed unable to handle Justice.

    – This is so stupid. The only reason you wrote this is because you parrot what Physco Don says.

  579. Robbie says:

    I know because is in the NYT many will refuse to accept it is real.

    Charles Gasparino
    @CGasparino

    Good analysis on how trumps volatile and capricious behavior destroyed any chance of the GOP keeping the house even w 3 plus percent Econ growth

    https://t.co/z68vD26djZ

  580. BayernFan says:

    ok so the dems and media can call Trump every toxic epithet in the book (you know what they are) 24/7 for 2 years while he’s trying to do a good job for the country as he sees it….

    but he makes a few throwaway lines at a couple of losing gop candidates…

    and THAT’S where you draw the line?!?!

    lololol

  581. Wes says:

    BayernFan is such a Trump sycophant he seems to want to be Donald Trump. Trump is Exhibit A of why I will be writing in a candidate or leaving the presidential line blank again in 2020.

    His sycophants such as BayernFan are Exhibit B.

    Good luck winning when the NC suburbs start acting like those in other states, Bay.

  582. Wes says:

    In other news, RRH is declaring McSally and Scott to be DOA.

    Typical of those bedwetters.

  583. Tina says:

    Doa in what sense. I do not go to that site.

  584. Tina says:

    Nope, Jebot, I agreed with what Grassley and Graham said.

    It doesn’t make. Sesssions a bad person.

    In fact, you conveniently left out his gesture to his successor.

  585. Wes says:

    They’re saying absentee ballots will give the elections to Sinema and Nelson, Tina.

    ::sigh::

  586. Tina says:

    33000 recount is not a manual one. Not much change going to happen.

    Skeletor is an arse. He should just say, while a recount is state mandated (assuming that this is the case), I do,not want one, Lets come together

  587. Tina says:

    Wes, that site seems quite loony.

  588. Tina says:

    11h
    Time to declassify everything @realDonaldTrump Let’s blow open #SpyGate #WednesdayWisdom
    View details ·

    Bull Whitaker wants declassification.

    That guy has b*lls.

  589. jaichind says:

    The FL Senate Scott lead is down to 26K. Hopefully there are not more batches of votes like the ones that came in.

  590. Scooby77 says:

    Marv,

    The four Sinema precincts, how big are they and what was their previous percent breakout? Same for the three McSally precincts…any idea? If not, no worries, but you seem all over this.

    Wondering just how good a shot Sinema has at overtaking McSally. That would be a real bad development.

  591. jaichind says:

    I may be wrong but I am pretty positive on McSally’s chances. If most of the outstanding votes are EV then if I recall the AZ EV vote leaned GOP so McSally’s lead is more likely to grow.

  592. Dylan says:

    589–Wes–you have to admit it is concerning that such a large volume of uncounted ballots were “found” that now need to be tabulated. I don’t visit RRH but I am quite concerned about this. It still seems like our election systems are living/functioning in an very “analog” era.

  593. Phil says:

    Wait a minute. The lead shrunk to 26K? Uh, why is that?

  594. jaichind says:

    @ 597 Phil. I assume because more uncounted ballots comes in. Of course there are also overseas ballots which should also help Scott. I recall back in 2000 Prez race in FL all these sources of vote ended being a wash.

  595. Tina says:

    How large was the “found ballots.”

  596. Phil says:

    Hold on. Uncounted ballots? From where exactly?

  597. Phil says:

    Excuse me. “found” ballots?

    What kind of BS is this?

  598. Phil says:

    Uncounted ballots “just came in”?

    What does that mean” “Came in”? from where exactly? The tooth ferry?

  599. Dylan says:

    602–Details are unclear. It seems to me that they are referencing absentee/mailed in ballots. It is reportedly a very large quantity—six figures worth. Google it.

  600. Scooby77 says:

    I saw 34k go to 30k, but didn’t find an article where it’s less than that.

    Probably Broward.

  601. jaichind says:

    I check the cnn site once in a while to get the latest count for FL and AZ.

  602. jaichind says:

    DeSantis lead down to 47k. Main risk here if this goes on ia even that race will be in recount territory.

  603. Phil says:

    Well, I think we can all see where this is going.

    I’ve seen this movie before.

  604. Dylan says:

    why on earth cant we develop a frigging system where all absentee ballots are tabulated in advance of or no later than close of business on election day? this is such low tech bs. you would think after Florida 2000 we would have a better system. I’m sure the “winners” are on this but it is frustrating to watch what seems like a slow mo train wreck

  605. Phil says:

    Slow but steady, Dylan. Like I’ve said. I’ve watched this before.

  606. Dylan says:

    doesn’t GOP control vote counting infrastructure in both AZ and FL via the SOS office?

  607. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Jim Acosta wh press pass suspended.

  608. BayernFan says:

    good

  609. jaichind says:

    Looking at the ap site which has earlier data it seems scott gained 4k and Nelson gained 8k so the lead went from 30k to 26k. The 8k to 4k clearly means these votes are from SE FL. Hopeflully there are no more batches like this.

  610. mnw says:

    I guess Sky Queen has worked her last AA church.

  611. Tina says:

    I don’t care much for the exchange.

    However, he was physical against the poor woman aid who was trying to get the mike.

  612. Phil says:

    I think you can safely say that, mnw.

  613. MichiganGuy says:

    Michael Moore: ‘We will lose in 2020’ with Cory Booker, Kamala Harris
    .
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/nov/7/michael-moore-we-will-lose-2020-cory-booker-kamala/

  614. Bio mom says:

    Found ballots cannot go all in one direction unless they are fraudulent.

  615. mnw says:

    I’m taking a sabbatical. I am NOT doing a Maxwell. I’m sure I’ll be back intermittently.

    The trolls wore me down. You guys can feed them 24/7 now. You must love it.

  616. Scooby77 says:

    There are around 634,000 early and provisional ballots still outstanding in the Arizona race. 450,000 in Maricopa Co alone.

    What the hell?

  617. Bio mom says:

    Let us apply this to those contests on the other side equally close. Perhaps Tester actually did not win? Heller did not actually lose? Why only always in one direction?

  618. MichiganGuy says:

    mnw, I will probably do the same. It has been good conserving with you.

  619. MichiganGuy says:

    SB conversing

  620. mnw says:

    MG

    And with you also, MG. See u down the road.

  621. NYCmike says:

    mnw,

    Maybe you can start up the HOBOS again??

    Good luck, see you soon.

  622. NYCmike says:

    http://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/536/

    -So, a debate about limiting immigration, legal or illegal, is not up for discussion among Republicans?

  623. lisab says:

    mnw,

    please don’t go

  624. Cash Cow TM says:

    “if their was a dem candidate like jfk or rfk today

    someone who looked good, spoke well and talked tough

    and was not a total loon”
    ______________________
    lisab,

    Those folks do no exist in today’s D party.

    And if one DID exist and emerge, they would get creamed in the D Primaries.

    Oh,…Cow inadvertently made another funny…”CREAMED” !

  625. Cash Cow TM says:

    Another coupe [points of the outcome of the election if it stands as it is currently (without new found ballots or recounts changing things)

    1. Taylor Swift and Oprah take a hit.
    the “Hey, I write great songs…” or “I am a successful TV personality who many people like me…and THEREFORE I am all wise and omnipotent in my political leanings and musings was ‘all hat and no cattle’.

    2. Obama went all in on the close FL election (and GA?) and came away empty.
    Little compensation that he and Tim Kaine did bring donuts to the Wexton campaign headquarters just before the election–but just about EVERYBODY knew that Comstock sas a marked wonman and in deep doo-doo in that NOVA district.

  626. Tina says:

    “President Trump believes in a free press and expects and welcomes tough questions of him and his Administration. We will, however, never tolerate a reporter placing his hands on a young woman just trying to do her job as a White House intern. This conduct is absolutely unacceptable. It is also completely disrespectful to the reporter’s colleagues not to allow them an opportunity to ask a question. President Trump has given the press more access than any President in history.”

    Acostas press pass was suspended because he made physical contact with a young intern.

  627. Tina says:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ix5NK5sDH1g

    The you tube clip shows his aggressive, physical contact against the intern.

  628. Cash Cow TM says:

    Here is what the animals are saying out in the barnyard:

    And in hindsight, Trump picking Sen. Sessions (or any sitting U.S. senator who was an R) to be his AG was a horrendously stupid idea.

    Whoever Trump tagged as AG, I think Trump expected them to pull the plug on any investigation into Trump, and to begin investigations that would hopefully lead to indictments against Hillary (remember all the campaign stop chants of “Lock Her Up!”).

    Obama politically weaponized many government agencies (which was wrong) and Trump wanted to do tit for tat, same thing (which is wrong).

  629. GPO says:

    MNW cant blame you – don’t understand the people that think Robbie is anything other than a troll

  630. Cash Cow TM says:

    OK.
    Felt the need to repost this from the election eve thread. It gains more gravitas after seeing Trump’s press conference today.

    Jimmy Carter or Ronald Reagan could have pulled off the “you are being rude” thing…but not DJT.
    He just can’t help making himself into a caricature or a lightning rod.
    ###########################################
    “…Yes, Trump being POTUS is 1000x better than corrupt Hillary being POTUS.

    ‘BUTT’…

    Here are the biggest ‘BEEFS’ Cow has with Trump.

    l. TRUMP is an imbecile and a boob lacking ‘BRAINS’. He says outrageous things that are easily proven as not factual, false, bombastic, etc. that kneecaps his credibility. He serves up material for the TV talk show and late night comedians to become the ‘BUTT’ of their jokes. [TRUMP: I am thinking of dealing with the Birthright Citizenship of illegal through an E.O.”–unaware of the little matter of the 14th Amendment.]

    2. He thinks it is all about him. And that EVERYONE who voted for him LOVES him as a person and embraces everything he says and does. He is as narcissistic as Obama. [I could not bring myself to vote for him and wrote in McM, but I do wish him to have a successful presidency, and will say he has had more successes than I thought he would. there are a number of thing he has done like SCOTUS appointments that I stand ‘SHOULDER’ to ‘SHOULDER’ with DJT.]

    3. He cannot stop harmful tweets that often boomerang and become net negatives to the conservative agenda and the GOP in general. He tries to “MILK’ some minor issues to death. Always trying to poke someone in the ‘RUMP’ over something. Some of his tweets are ‘UDDERLY’ ridiculous.

    4. His personal life (background, multiple marriages, hookups with porn stars, etc., etc., etc.) is a mess. He was a D, then an R, then an Indy, then nothing, did not vote for a long stretch, then an R. Was for the war…was against the war. Just as WJC will go down in history as ‘BJ Clinton’, DJT will go down in history as reprehensible ‘President crotch-grabber’ or ‘President Tweeter’ (even though all of his womanizing crotch-grabbing was apparently done prior to his being in the White House.

    5. Unlike Reagan, DJT has no moral or well thought out, articulated and long-held ideological compass, and instead facts show he changes views like a chameleon. [Gave big money to liberal Ds, gave big money to conservative Rs,…all over the place…]

    6. He is less articulate than a 6th grader, suffers from ‘HOOF’ in mouth disease…and a HORRIBLE public speaker…pity the fool who tries to coach him on public speaking, to lose his smugness and looks and smiles of “the Joker”, to show some visible signs of empathy, (and those various repetitive hand motions he always uses when he speaks drive me crazy). Good conservative Rs everywhere have to defend themselves and explain to press and public the statements of DJT where he talks about some conservative R policy and screws it all up…The press is always trying to ‘ROAST’ Republicans over some controversial comment DJT made.

    7. He engages his ‘TONGUE’ before his brain kicks in; he lets the press bait him, falls for their stupid questions and is too dumb to give an intelligent answer; he trips over his ‘TONGUE’ too many times and makes unforced errors and creates controversies and raises his negatives [and this helps to throw cold water by association on ‘conservatives’, and all GOP where there should not be any. [“PRESS: Hey Pres. Trump. Nikki Haley has announced she will be stepping down as amb. to U.N. Do you think you will appoint your daughter to replace Haley? TRUMP: “My daughter would make a great amb. to the U.N.!” –What Trump SHOULD have said, was “Don’t be silly. At the appropriate time I will appoint someone that is ever bit as good as Haley has been.”; PRESS: “Pres. Trump, will you order the troops you are sending to the border to fire on the illegals?” TRUMP: “Well if they throw rocks, then the troops will fire on them.” Any of us here could have given a better response than that…]

    8. He makes public war on HIS own appointees (like AG Sessions or his 1st SOS, etc.) and on the rest of GOP even AFTER the primaries and his election (Ryan, Romney, any R official who raises questions about or contradicts the direction / statements or rightly takes issue with what DJT does or says.)

    9. He comes across as a bully, a sexist and a despicable person. President Reagan would kid and, dare I say ‘RIB’, his political opponents in a way that Reagan came out on top…but Trump lacks that ability.

    10.DJT made some good choices in his cabinet and who he brought into the White House, but made some bad choices as well. Bigger turnover in first 2 years when comparing presidents. Has created turmoil and glitches in accomplishing more.

    11. Does not understand and refuses to learn how his role as elected POTUS is different from “campaign mode Donald”. You undercut your degree of success by throwing hand grenades publicly at leaders in your own party.

    12. He does not understand how to / or refuses to modify behavior as POTUS to be more likeable and to show he is trying to be president of all Americans. He does not try to appeal to people on the ‘FLANK’. I hope he grows into the job eventually…
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    Cow felt the above had to be said.”

  631. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Acostas press pass was suspended because he made physical contact with a young intern.”

    Anyone else…when you read this…think of President Bill Clinton?

  632. Just Fill Out The Census says:

    Mark my words: SCOTT WILL LOSE THE RECOUNT AND THE RACE!

    He was at 45000 votes last night and now it’s 26000. Follow the pattern!!

  633. michael corleone says:

    Based on what I read, Broward was supposed to finish tabulating today. If that was the last Broward drop, Scott should be ok but it’s certainly annoying.

  634. Tina says:

    @JuddLegum
    Follow
    Hours after the polls closed: 1. Trump fired Jeff Sessions 2. Removed Rosenstein from overseeing the Russia investigation 3. Installed Matt Whitaker to replace Sessions and oversee the Russia investigation. Whitaker has publicly stated that Mueller has exceeded his authority
    12:15 PM – 7 Nov 2018

    Redacstein was supposed to be in SF tomorrow for an event, but he has canceled it.

  635. Tina says:

    ian Vermeule
    @Vermeullarmine
    16h
    Young Kim (R-CA). First Korean-American woman in Congress. Haven’t seen major profiles and adoring thinkpieces yet, but I’m sure they’re on the way. pic.twitter.com/7YjI4hammX
    View photo ·

    No mention of her. Just Beta male, golloon, enema, etc.

  636. Tina says:

    Cn and n is stupid.

    They came out with a presser saying that Acosted an Intern did “touch” her, despite video and still photography indicating otherwise.

  637. Dylan says:

    It truly is a miracle bush won Florida In 2000. The Dems vowed “never again” and so here we go again

  638. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – BF will excuse everything Trump does because is trying to do a good job for the country as sees it. Using that logic, we really should never criticize anything any President does. Every President from Washington to Trump tried to do a good job for the country as they saw it.

  639. Bitterlaw says:

    I did not always agree with mnw but I hope he returns soon.

  640. Paul says:

    Whitaker to recuse himself. Rosenstein remains in charge of Mueller.

  641. Paul says:

    sources in white house say Trump is furious.

  642. John says:

    640.
    Absolutely true. The tape clearly shows Mr. Acosta fending off the young intern in order to keep the mike.

  643. Bitterlaw says:

    I wish Trump would hire me and then fire me. I would just laugh in his face. It would be fun.

  644. MichiganGuy says:

    Jamie Weinstein
    ?
    Verified account

    @Jamie_Weinstein
    2h2 hours ago
    More
    Whatever else he is, Trump is a media genius. In the last 24 hrs:

    1) GOP lost the House
    2) Trump fired Sessions & installed a temporary AG who will also oversee the Mueller probe.

    And yet, we are all talking about, myself included, Jim Acosta.
    .
    https://twitter.com/Jamie_Weinstein/status/1060364383832997888

  645. MichiganGuy says:

    BL is such a tough guy. lol

  646. Cash Cow TM says:

    NOW you see why when I took the phone call from President Trump, it was a wise move by the COW to (in Walt’s best interests) tell Trump take a hike, Walt was not interested in the AG job.

  647. dblaikie says:

    It looks like the McSally increased her lead slightly today. Now a little over 17000 votes.

  648. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    647. “I wish Trump would hire me and then fire me. I would just laugh in his face. It would be fun.”

    And I thought Robbie was bad.

    Some night why don’t you ring Trump’s doorbell and run.

  649. Paul says:

    I’ve got a bag of poop that he can drop off at Trump’s house.

  650. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    In California there are probably about two million ballots that have not been counted. You can mail in an absentee ballot the day of the election as long is it is postmarked on that day. Likewise, you can turn in your absentee ballot in at a polling station.

    “Several of the Orange County Congressional districts are very close, and the winners may not be know for weeks.

    In the 49th, Democrat Mike Levin held 53.5 percent of the vote late Wednesday, enough that the Associated Press declared him the winner over Republican Diane Harkey. The seat has been held by GOP Rep. Darrell Issa, who is retiring.

    In the 25th, Democrat Katie Hill held 51.3 percent of the vote late Wednesday, enough that incumbent Rep. Steve Knight, a Republican, conceded.

    Both seats were two of several targeted in California by Democrats in their successful effort to take control of the House of Representatives.

    “We’re thrilled. It’s really a victory for so many people who have worked incredibly hard to flip this district,” said Levin, a San Juan Capistrano environmental attorney, referencing the scores of protesters who for more than a year rallied outside of Issa’s office every Tuesday.

    But in Orange County, home to four closely-watched House races, 420,000 ballots still aren’t counted, amounting to nearly 40 percent of all votes cast. Similar proportions of uncounted ballots exist in Los Angeles, Riverside and San Bernardino counties.

    Those backlogs of uncounted ballots prompted candidates in some close contests to say little Wednesday afternoon, not wanting to concede or declare victory too early.

    Republican Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-Costa Mesa), a 30-year incumbent, trailed first-time candidate Democrat Harley Rouda by 2,682 votes in Orange County’s coastal 48th Congressional District, a one-time Republican stronghold. The congressman’s campaign spokesman, Dale Neugebauer, said the tally was so close that they wouldn’t be issuing another statement until the vote count was completed.”

    Two years ago, Daryl Issa was behind in votes on election night, but as the absentee votes were counted he came out on top.

  651. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The irony is that after Trump had one of the better midterm election results of any first term president; Trump had the most disastrous news conference of his presidency. Taking shots at so many members of his own party is a new low.

    There are still a lot of Republican precincts in Utah County that have not been counted, so the outcome of the Mia Love race is uncertain. Romney is close to Mia Love, and I imagine is not a happy camper now.

  652. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    555. “Romney still wants to be president if trump does not run in 2020, he could have a shot, but i think his expiration date is past.”

    Romney would be too young and inexperienced. Keep in mind Sanders and Biden are nearly 80.

  653. phoenixrisen says:

    Something seriously shady is going on in Broward County regarding this depleting margin of victory for Rick Scott. Here is what I am finding:

    https://www.politico.com/election-results/2018/florida/

    Using that link, if you hover over Broward County, you will see that the total is 643,546 total votes cast with 100% of precincts reporting.

    https://www.browardsoe.org/votersonthego

    Click on the box that says voter turnout.

    You will see as of right now, Broward County shows total votes cast of 716,257.

    Where did this additional 72,711 votes come from. For a visual reference, lets look at Lee County.

    Hover the mouse over Lee County on the Politico website and it shows 288,849 votes cast with 100% of precincts reporting.

    Now we go to the Lee County website:

    https://www.lee.vote/Current-Election-Statistics

    It shows as of right now, 293,996 votes case for a net change of 5,147.

    See the anomoly between the counties? This is smelling of provisional ballot vote fraud here.

  654. michael corleone says:

    I think a good chunk of the Broward gap is due to people not voting in the Senate race. Look at the votes cast in the gov race and the total is about 30k votes higher. The ballot was apparently confusing and disenfranchised voters… or something. Google it.

  655. Tina says:

    Kurt Schlichter
    @KurtSchlichter
    12h
    It’s really amazing how Mitt was abused and humiliated by the elite and the media and how he now sucks up to them. It’s really kind of creepy. twitter.com/MittRomney/sta…
    View details ·

  656. MichiganGuy says:

    NT

  657. sane_voter says:

    Broward ballot
    https://twitter.com/browardpolitics/status/1060300392960004096

    They call it the Butterfly ballot Effect

  658. Phil says:

    Ok, the countdown continues. Snipes has twenty and a half hours left to come up with another 15K votes.

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