Trump Trails All Democrats Nationally, Biden Leads by 12%

Public Policy Polling released a new national poll that shows basically Donald Trump not getting much higher than the roughly 41% of the population that approves of his job.

Joe Biden (D) 53%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Bernie Sanders (D) 51%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Kamala Harris (D) 48%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Beto O’Rourke (D) 47%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Elizabeth Warren (D) 48%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 42%

Cory Booker (D) 47%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 42%

Kirsten Gillibrand (D) 47%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 42%

Chuck Schumer (D) 46%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Nancy Pelosi (D) 47%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 44%

This poll was done January 19-21 among 760 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 11:59 am
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163 Responses to “Trump Trails All Democrats Nationally, Biden Leads by 12%”

  1. Wes says:

    Schumer? Really?

  2. dblaikie says:

    Leave to PPP . . .

  3. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    ..and the top of the next thread should announce that the Martians have landed. About as accurate information as a PPP poll.

  4. Tina says:

    Had no clue that this drat polling firm was still in business.

  5. Victrc says:

    Total balderdash. No one, in this day and age of ultra partisan politics is losing a presidential election by 12%. Too many from each side who will vote for the candidate just because of the affiliation.

    Plus… down to Warren? Give me a break.

  6. NYCmike says:

    “Senator Joni Ernst(R-IA) has filed for divorce.”

    -When will she have sex with a porn star?

  7. NYCmike says:

    “197. Actually, it’s because of Obama’s policies….”


    The economy is “because of Obama’s policies”??

    Then why would Democrats want him removed, if he kept all of Obama’s policies in effect? Why the uproar?

    Trump has totally changed Obama’s policies towards business and our economy at large. Tax policy has been changed, regulatory burden has been altered, the bully pulpit has been used by Trump to call out the success and dynamics of the American economy, as opposed to Obama’s lectures about the evil of profit.

  8. NYCmike says:

    Quick note about the Covington High School kerkuffle……once again, “Republicans” at NRO and people like Bill Kristol (who reminds me A LOT of our fellow HHR posters “CG” and Robbie) IMMEDIATELY fell for the MSM narrative……then tried to simply delete the evidence (Kristol)

    Or in the case of “CG”, try to downplay the situation as nothing major…..meantime, a high school is closed today due to threats from those on the left. That is not surprising to me.

    BUT, to “CG”, that is no big deal.

  9. Tina says:

    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    National Review will never fully recover from this.

    Not when Rich Lowry was right there in the mob, puffed up in his own Never Trump sanctimony…

    Thanks to guys like French and Goldberg, NRO’s been a self-righteous garbage fire for years, but this feels entirely different.


  10. jason says:

    I guess the good news of the day is that Messy, Proud ObamaCON, and Amoral Scumbag only have 12 years to live.

    The bad news is Walt might only survive another 200 years in 250 degree weather.

  11. jason says:

    Those polls look remarkably like the ones showing Hillary winning in 2016.

  12. jason says:

    “October 26, 2016

    Hillary Clinton has widened her lead over Donald Trump, polling 14 percentage points ahead nationally, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll, which comes 12 days before the presidential election.

    Conducted after the final presidential debate, the poll finds the Democratic nominee leads Trump among likely voters 51% to 37%, a significant lead over the Republican candidate.

    According to the poll, Clinton has support of 90% of likely Democratic voters, as well as support from 15% of moderate Republicans. Of the Republicans surveyed, 79% said they would vote for Trump.

    The poll finds that Clinton has consolidated the support of her party, while even managing to draw Republican voters.

    The margin of error for the AP-GfK poll, conducted between Oct. 20-24, is plus or minus 2.75 percentage points.”

  13. Tina says:

    Ryan Saavedra
    Ryan Saavedra
    Whoopi Goldberg on the media smearing the Covington Catholic boys: “So many people admitted they made snap judgments before all these other facts came in. … Why is that? Why do we keep making the same mistake?”

    Joy Behar: “Because we’re desperate to get Trump out of office.”
    Embedded video

  14. jason says:

    They must have polled “moderate Republicans” Corey and Amoral Scumbag.

  15. Tina says:

    Wp has issued another correction,

    The Native American never served in Vietnam.

    He is a veteran, however.

  16. jason says:

    BUT, to “CG”, that is no big deal.”

    Corey has long ago abandoned any pretense of fairness or balance and has adopted the “ends justify the means” meme of the Democrats.

    Smearing the students is ok because it helps the cause.

    He and Behar are on the same page.

  17. jason says:

    I am sure Amoral Scumbag and Corey will be here soon to defend this guy.

    “Digital company INE Entertainment has fired a journalist who publicly wished for the death of several Covington Catholic High School students and their parents in a pair of tweets over the weekend. Aside from his job as a post-production supervisor at INE, Erik Abriss is a contributor to New York Media’s pop culture site Vulture. “We were surprised and upset to see the inflammatory and offensive rhetoric used on Erik Abriss’ Twitter account this weekend. He worked with the company in our post-production department and never as a writer,” the company said in a statement to TheWrap on Monday.

    Abriss was one of the hundreds of adults on Twitter calling for the deaths of children for the crime of wearing MAGA hats and smiling in public. Lashing out on Twitter, Abriss expressed his deep wish that the children and their parents would die.

    “I don’t know what it says about me but I’ve truly lost the ability to articulate the hysterical rage, nausea, and heartache this makes me feel,” typed Abriss. “I just want these people to die. Simple as that. Every single one of them. And their parents.”

  18. Tina says:

    Several attorneys are working on a libel lawsuit.

    The students school was also closed due to threats.

    It is a very big deal.

  19. Tina says:

    Alyssa Milano
    Let’s not forget—this entire event happened because a group of boys went on a school-sanctioned trip to protest against a woman’s right to her own body and reproductive healthcare. It is not debatable that bigotry was at play from the start.

  20. Tina says:

    Chuck Ross
    Chuck Ross
    Lanny Davis told Congress that Cohen’s testimony will likely be “unsatisfying” because he will not discuss the topics everyone cares about. Instead, he’ll share anecdotes about time w/ Trump. Cohen did not want to testify, but Davis pushed him to.

    Russian Stooge, Schiff for Brains, is reallynwasting time.

  21. Tina says:

    Looks like drats starting to fracture over shutdown

    Rep. Collin Peterson (D-MN) today: “Give Trump the money” for the wall. “I’d give him the whole thing…and put strings on it”

  22. Wes says:

    Wrong interpretation, Tina. Peterson comes from a Trump-friendly district and has been losing ground against underfunded challengers lately. He’s trying to align himself with Trump to avoid defeat.

    Most of the rest of the Dems aren’t in the same position as Peterson.

  23. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    As I have been saying, the the Democrats may help Trump get re-elected. The attack on the Covington Catholic boys is an example of leftist stupidity that the liberal wing of the Democratic Party excels at.

  24. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This is from AP News. Even Twitter reacted against the attempts to slander the Covington Catholic boys:

    “Twitter, meanwhile, has suspended an account that helped the video go viral. Twitter prohibits the creation of “fake and misleading accounts,” and the encounter once again demonstrated the power of social media to not just amplify but manipulate narratives, aided by bots and malicious actors out to shape public discourse.

    A Twitter representative wrote in an email that “Deliberate attempts to manipulate the public conversation on Twitter by using misleading account information is a violation of the Twitter Rules.” It didn’t elaborate.

    Kentucky’s governor also weighed in, saddened by what happened.

    “It was amazing how quick those who preach tolerance and non-judgment of others were to judge and label some high school students based on partial information,” Gov. Matt Bevin tweeted. “In a world where we have a wealth of information at our fingertips, we have increasingly little discernment and wisdom… Facts matter…The truth matters…Context matters… A little more genuine caring for one another and a little less digital vitriol would be good for all.””

  25. Tina says:

    Wes, there are actually some house members that are also drafting a letter to Pelosi asking that she compromise, I do not know whether trump run won or lost those districts,

    I look at it as there are some cracks forming forming in the no deal, $1 for the wall position.

  26. Tina says:

    Piglosi has confirmed no SOTU, denies president access to the people’s house,

  27. Tina says: “I think the Democrats are as much to blame right now as the Republicans are,” Brokaw said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “They’ve got control of the House, but they’re mostly just, ‘yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we’re not going to do what you wanna do.’ I haven’t seen a grand plan.”

    “You’ve got the young people running through the halls, who are the new members of Congress, who are conducting pep rallies every day instead of getting together with the more moderate people,” he continued. “They’re being driven hard from the left. It’s a time of great chaos I think.”

  28. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    26. Trump can schedule the SOTU at another venue, and invite Congress to attend. Assume Republicans would show up.

  29. Tina says:

    The Daily Caller
    The Daily Caller
    Trump Jr. Says There’s a ‘99.9% Chance’ Rep. Adam Schiff Leaked His Intel Committee Testimony (link:

    Lock Schiff up.

  30. Messy says:

    10. I plan to die sometime around 2051….

  31. Messy says:

    29. The “I refuse to answer due to white privilege” stuff wasn’t leaked, it was formally released.

  32. Messy says:

    27. Ryan did the same thing to Obama in 2017, Barack didn’t mind at all.

  33. Messy says:

    11,12. They were before the Comey letter, though. She dropped ten points after that.

    …and she still won the popular vote.

  34. Messy says:

    Trump just added a poison pill to restrict further immigration from central america without mentioning it.

  35. Proud Obamacon says:

    Just swinging by the LooosahLand LOL.. same old drivel. McTurtle now wants to bring up a vote for something that will never become law. What a flip floppin’ LOOOOSAH

    President Anne Coulter already vetoed this anyway. Back to the drawing board yall! What does President Sean Hannity have to say?


  36. Proud Obamacon says:

    Yall had complete power for two years .. no wall. Now Dems take over, and all of the sudden we have an emergency… looosah please.

    Yall can’t even agree. Actually yall did agree on no wall. Now, you wanna shut it down and blame the Dems. People see right through yalls bull$hit. We got a blue tsunami forming.. beware!


  37. lisab says:

    actress Fan Bingbing was ordered to pay about $129 million in overdue taxes and fines

  38. lisab says:

    to put ppp in persective …

    he was down 20+ points to hillary in 2015

  39. lisab says:

    “Clinton’s clearest advantage, however, is over Donald Trump, 59% say they would vote for Clinton if the 2016 match-up were between her and Trump, 34% say they would back Trump.” july, 2015 cnn

  40. lisab says:

    Gov. Edwards writes, “While it certainly would be within your powers to determine that the missed call was so out of bounds that it affected the fundamental fairness of the game (and, without a doubt, it was), I do recognize that you are unlikely to change the result of the game. However, at a minimum, you and the other team owners should make sure that by next season, there is some recourse on the field when such a clear error is made.”

  41. Wes says:

    I doubt Dems will have a tsunami, but PO is right to think Trump will lose.

    The federal employees not receiving pay know Trump started this and won’t forget. It’s just another unforced error by Trump. This tangibly hits people directly in their wallets and pocketbooks. That’s going to have a much greater impact than any shenanigans the Dems engage in.

  42. Tina says:


    Native American never served in Vietnam

    Went awol 3 times.

  43. lisab says:

    study finds people having viwpoints different than yours causes no harm

    robbie and cg distraught

  44. NYCmike says:

    “The federal employees not receiving pay know Trump started this and won’t forget. It’s just another unforced error by Trump. This tangibly hits people directly in their wallets and pocketbooks. That’s going to have a much greater impact than any shenanigans the Dems engage in.”

    -Imagine having to depend on Wes to back you up in a really tough situation……might as well commit hara-kiri.

  45. NYCmike says:

    -I would be interested to know if Trump knew who Breitbart was……Breitbart would have definitely been helping out the Covington kids.

  46. Tina says:

    Dan Crenshaw indicates the house failed to pass a bill paying federal workers, despite the shutdown.

    Normally, a furloughed worker is paid when gubment re opens.

  47. Tina says:

    Ilhan Omar
    -The boys were protesting a woman’s right to choose & yelled “it’s not rape if you enjoy it”
    -They were taunting 5 Black men before they surrounded Phillips and led racist chants
    -Sandmann’s family hired a right wing PR firm to write his non-apology

    She has moved on from the Jews to the Catholics.

  48. Tina says:

    t Retweeted
    ???? ????????
    ???? ????????
    “After growing up in the same tribe as Elizabeth Warren, Mr Phillips served in Vietnam with Richard Blumenthal and came under fire in Bosnia with Hillary Clinton”

    Fake but Accurate.

  49. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    41. “The federal employees not receiving pay know Trump started this and won’t forget.”

    Am curious the percentage of federal employees who voted for Trump in 2016.

  50. lisab says:

    as Tina pointed out,

    the federal employees will almost certainly all be paid, so it is just inconvenient for them

    i am a state worker now, but if the same situation was happening at the state level i could easily last a full year — so long as i would be paid later

    the people suffering are new federal employees without spouses with jobs, no savings and no resources to borrow.

    sooooooooo, yes, it is inconvenient, but not horrible. the number of employees really affected will go up monthly.

  51. jason says:

    Trump just added a poison pill to restrict further immigration from central america without mentioning it.”

    Messy forgot to put the word “illegal” in front of immigration and to capitalize Central America, but then again she IS functionally illiterate.

  52. jason says:

    After growing up in the same tribe as Elizabeth Warren, Mr Phillips served in Vietnam with Richard Blumenthal and came under fire in Bosnia with Hillary Clinton”

    Also John Kerry remembers seeing him in Cambodia over Xmas 1968 and Al Gore says they were in combat together in Vietnam.

  53. jason says:

    I hear Walt is being asked if he saw Phillips at Little Bighorn.

  54. Wes says:

    Hey, Mikey, had Trump given me something to work with I’d defend him on this as I did on the previous shutdown.

    He chose to pick the fight when Dems were irrelevant to the process and give them a talking point placing all blame on him. I have nothing to work with, so I have no defense.

    For some master negotiator, Trump has handled this incredibly poorly. That’s on him. I’m not going to make Trump look as if he’s walking on water unless he gets his feet wet at least.

  55. Wes says:

    SDC, I can guarantee Trump will get a lower percentage of federal workers in 2020 than in 2016. Beyond that, they’re motivated against him. Equally relevant is that they disproportionately live in the very suburbs where the GOP suffered its greatest backlash against Trump in 2018–and will have him on the ballot as the object of their ire next year.

    Not all of them are getting backpay either.

    Even putting them aside, contractors whose livelihood depends on federal contracts aren’t getting jobs they were relying on and are beginning to grouse about that. I live in a community with a large number of those. The same displeasure I saw present among those I deal with against Obama three years ago is manifesting against Trump now.

    Once people start losing money because of a tangible government action they take notice. That’s why I doubt Dems will have too much to worry about. When it comes down to it personal economics trumps all else.

    Trump wanted to engage in self-inflicted wounds. That’s on him. He’ll be conceding in just over 21 months because of his own actions. Even if I felt motivated to sugarcoat things for him that would not change reality.

  56. Messy says:

    The WH deliberately got poison pills inserted in Senate GOP bill reopening govt, NYT confirms.

    “WH officials conceded privately they had tacked on controversial proposals anathema to Dems that would block many migrants from seeking asylum”

    This White House is inscrutable in its stupidity. Why put poison pills into its “compromise” offer? According to NYT they were added because Dems were going to reject anyway, but why make it easier for Dems to hang tough?

    Logically this seems to indicate WH thinks they’ve now got a winning hand and will start to benefit from the shutdown going on. But logic is not their strong suit so who knows.

  57. Messy says:

    51. Are you saying he DIDN’T? Are you saying that LEGAL immigration from Central America is really ILLEGAL?

    Are you saying that the late, odious, amendments to the wall-funding bill were meant to entice Democratic Senators to vote yes?

    Jason, DO you want the shutdown to go on forever?

  58. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #56- Messy
    Maybe the GOP is moving toward having a winning hand.

    If not, please explain this result from the just-released Emerson College Poll;

    “The country is also split on leadership in Congress with 52% saying they would vote for a Democrat if the election was held today, and 48% saying they would vote Republican. In an Emerson poll prior to the midterm elections, Democrats led the hypothetical ballot test by 8 percentage points.”

    Also, the Emerson Poll shows that the president’s approval rating remains unchanged since just prior to the 2016 midterms although his disapproval rating has risen. Other polls have shown the same.

    What you and your ilk will never understand is that approximately half the Country does not think like you. We consider you uninformed and misguided. You find conservatives EVIL!!!

  59. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Look on the bright side if you are capable of doing so.
    The President just announced the re-nomination of 51 candidates for Judges in the various federal courts. They were leftovers from the last Congress due mostly to Mr. Wonderful–Jeff Flake(R-AZ).

    Would Mrs. Clinton have nominated these candidates? Just think how many more conservative Judges would be had if Mr. Trump wins a second term.

  60. Messy says:

    58. So you ARE enjoying the suffering of the furloughed and TSA, Coast Guard members who are victims of involuntary servitude as mentioned in the 13th Amendment.

    BTW, CBS has Trump down to 36% and that Emerson poll has him at 42%. The shutdown is not helping Trump at all.

  61. Wes says:

    Judges are a separate issue entirely, Sheep. I’ve consistently said Trump is good on that issue. I understand you want me to be a pollyannish Trump supporter and claim the President is doing everything right and cruising to reelection. It isn’t so though.

    If it’s any consolation Trump will carry NC. He’ll have to spend money here he didn’t have to spend in 2016, but he will carry the state. Making Trump compete for the state rather than cruise will probably be a boon for Republicans downballot, particularly Dan Forest, but won’t be much of a boon for him nationally.

    I’m any event Trump has mismanaged this shutdown by any objective measure. Since he wants to motivate people against him and do anything possible to compromise his own reelection I’m not interested in contorting myself into a pretzel to defend him.

  62. jason says:

    Are you saying that LEGAL immigration from Central America is really ILLEGAL?”

    Zzzz….. I support LEGAL immigration. So does Trump btw.

    You support illegal immigration.

    Unfortunately, you are a brainwashed moron that doesn’t know the difference.

    As far as the shutdown goes, I never supported either a physical wall for the entire border or government shutdowns as political ploys.

    That being said, the MSM is grossly exaggerating the consequences of the shutdown and I think the biggest fear of the Dems and the MSM is that people will say “hey, maybe we can live without a lot of government we have been brainwashed into thinking is “essential”

  63. Tina says:

    Lisab, they will be paid when gubment re opens.

    Dan Crenshaw, however, tweeted that last week, most Rs voted to pay federal workers their first check for 2019, despite the shutdown,

    This bill did not pass the house. Most Ds were opposed to it.

    This got,little press.

  64. Tina says:

    Rep. Dan Crenshaw
    Rep. Dan Crenshaw
    Big deal that never got reported:

    Last week, House GOP voted to pay federal employees their 1st paycheck of 2019, despite shutdown. Only 6 Dems voted with us. It failed.

    Dem priority is not paying workers or opening gov’t. It is opposing Trump.

  65. jason says:

    Wes, I have consistently opposed a physical wall on the entire border because I think the same purpose can be achieved by other means.

    However, you say Trump has mismanaged the shutdown. How do you propose he get funding for the wall?

    I am going to hazard a guess that Trump will end up getting more for the wall than he would have gotten without the shutdown.

    I will also guess in the end it might be a wash in public opinion, I think Trump has other issues he is more vulnerable on than the wall. If you add those that support the wall to those that want something done about illegal immigration, you still have a majority of Americans.

  66. jason says:

    Dem priority is not paying workers or opening gov’t. It is opposing Trump.”

    Exactly. The Dems could care less about government employees, except as useful pawns and propaganda tools.

  67. jason says:

    So you ARE enjoying the suffering of the furloughed and TSA, Coast Guard members who are victims of involuntary servitude as mentioned in the 13th Amendment”

    Seems like it’s the Dems that are enjoying it more, they are telling all these people we care a lot more about illegal aliens than we care about you.

  68. Bitterlaw says:

    When he met with Schumer and Pelosi at the White House, Trump said to blame him for the shutdown. NYC forgets that.

    You can blame Dems now for continuing it, but Trump owns the start of it.

  69. Wes says:

    Jason, Trump gave the Dems the talking points to attack him on. He is getting the lion’s share of the blame. This is all on him.

  70. Tina says:

    Seems like these same democrats could have voted to pass paying federal workers their first checks,but they blocked it in the house last week.

    Republicans overwhelmingly voted for it,

    This would have been paying workers, despite the shutdown,

  71. Tina says:

    In 2013, when furloughed, I was not paid until the gubment reopened,

    The house bill would have changed that, granted for only the first check owed in 2019.

    Time for Mitchie to bring it up on his side.

  72. Messy says:

    62. the MSM is grossly exaggerating the consequences of the shutdown</b

    So you are enjoying the suffering of innocent people!!!!!

    So does McConnell.

  73. Tina says:

    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    Never Trump went from…

    “Standing up for conservative principles” to…

    “Joining the online media lynch mob to destroy children cuz they’re wearing MAGA hats.”

    Of course, we always knew who they really were and none of this is a surprise.

  74. jason says:

    “You can blame Dems now for continuing it, but Trump owns the start of it.”

    More or less. He made a demand for $5 billion for the wall which would have avoided a shutdown. So if you want to equate the demand to “owning the shutdown” ok.

    The Dems opted for a shutdown rather than approve it.

    They have opted to continue the shutdown rather than approve the funding.

    IMO the Dems are just as responsible for the shutdown as Trump is.

    Whether it’s worth shutting down the government over $5 billion in wall funding is an entirely different issue.

  75. jason says:

    So you are enjoying the suffering of innocent people!!!!!”

    The Democrats must be enjoying using people as props and propaganda tools.

  76. jason says:

    Messy the brainwashed moron thinks using bold type makes her drivel somehow more relevant.

    Believe me, when you are that ignorant you don’t really want to emphasize anything.

  77. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Trump said to blame him. People are blaming him. Not shocking.

  78. Robbie says:

    Wrecking the economy to own the libs.

    Jim Sciutto

    !!: “We could end up with zero growth” in first quarter “if shutdown extends for the whole quarter” says WH economic adviser Kevin Hassett on @CNNnewsroom just now.

  79. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    January 23, 2019 at 9:22 am
    Jason – Trump said to blame him. People are blaming him. Not shocking.

    – It’s no use. You can’t reach him. He’s got late-stage Trumpism.

  80. Robbie says:


    dblaikie says:
    January 18, 2019 at 4:43 pm
    Trump has totally destroyed Nancy with this stuff with the SOTU and her trip to Europe. No one, I mean no knew that she was going to leave the country for seven days while 800000 furloughed people would have to miss another paycheck. But the brilliant move was for Trump to cancel the trip he was going to take to the Party (I mean Summit) in Davos. Because of her overreach over the speech, have revealed themselves to be like the Emperor with no clothes. I look for the polls, at least the honest ones to change in the next week about who is to blame for the continued Shutdown.

    Chaser –

    Josh Jordan

    CBS Poll: Trump job approval falls to 36-59, with just 77% of the GOP approving and 34% of independents.

  81. Robbie says:


    Maggie Haberman

    Having lost DACA as a bargaining chip thanks to SCOTUS, White House is now considering offering DACA recipients green cards. Okay.

  82. dblaikie says:

    I generally try not to engage with Wormtongue because he gets down into the gutter with people rather than engaging them on the facts. But in 83 he actually sticks to an issue. Unfortunately in true Wormtongue fashion he is rather selective with his facts. 1 CBS’s poll is of adults. 2. There is a registered voter poll from Emerson which is 6 points higher on Trump approval and 7 points lower on disapproval. And we won’t even mention Rasmussen and give Wormtongue the opportunity to skip the facts by a harangue about Rasmussen’s likely voter poll.

  83. Tina says:

    Are there any current polls on who gets the blame, dblaikie?

    I have not seen anything since early last week, and I think it was also a poll of adults.

  84. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    We know you have a big crush on Maggie, but Axios debunked the green card story.

  85. Tina says:

    Maggie Hack, Hillary’s favorite reporter, is an idiot. The fact remains that Daca is still before a lower court, specifically Judge Hanen.

    He could issue a ruling which may make the sc take up the case even sooner, or go before an appeals court,

  86. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie – You are just as biased as everybody else. If Trump cured cancer and started raising the dead, you would immediately condemn him for the damaging impact on the healthcare and funeral industries.

  87. dblaikie says:

    Trump made an error when he said that he would be proud to “own” the shutdown. However my faith in dem overreach continues to grow. I stand by my earlier post that Trump turned the corner with his proposal. And the results are starting to show. Steny Hoyer is saying that a wall isn’t immoral and that it is negotiable. 30 centrist dems in the House have written to Nancy saying that she needs to get off her frozen cut in stone position and start negotiating.

    This has all been under girded by three dem mistakes outside of the shutdown. The first was the buzzfeed story. The second was the Covington story where young teens are smeared by the left. And the third is the gift that will keep on giving, Ms. Cotez, with her rant about the world ending in 12 years.

    This is all starting (in my view) to have a very unlikely result — the only person who is sounding logical and sane is Donald Trump. And, yes, Wormtongue, it may take time, but the polls are going to start to reflect this.

  88. Bitterlaw says:

    DB – I know you are the Trump Whisperer. He should hire you as communications director. However, I think there is more anti-Trump sentiment out there than you believe. I know Federal workers who supported Trump in 2016 who will not do so in 2020.

  89. Phil says:

    Punch a Covington kid in the face and get a free blow job from a buxom Saturday Night Live comedy writer.

    Hey, is this not truly the land of opportunity or what?

    Love the left in this country. Just keeps getting better and better.

  90. gameboy says:

    Robbie, Wes and the other Trump haters declaring it is the end for him. Don’t celebrate too soon. It was at this point in Reagan’s first term where his job approval was at 35% per Gallup (Jan. 1983) as we were at the tail end of a painful recession. We all know what happened two years later!! I’m shocked anyone really believes the 2020 election will be decided by some stupid government shutdown almost two years prior to the vote. BTW Robbie….thanks for popping in today with the daily DNC talking points. Do you have the ability to think for yourself?? You sound like the MSM robots who just echo each other.

  91. CG says:

    I love the comparisons to 1983-1984, as if the differing factors have not been discussed repeatedly.

    Perhaps if Democrats nominate the 92 year old Walter Mondale in 2020 and he promises to raise taxes, Trump might have a slight chance of reelection, assuming he is even still President then.

  92. CG says:

    If Mondale runs, he can turn on the debate stage to his left-wing primary opponents and ask them, “where’s the tofu?”

  93. Wes says:

    Game boy is just a brainwashed fanboy. I don’t hate Trump, and I never have. If I felt Trump was doing anything that made sense for his reelection I’d say it. I see no evidence of it, so I give my genuine assessment. You just don’t like what I’m saying, so you have to go out of your way to denigrate me and disparage my remarks.

    That says much more about you than about me.

  94. Bitterlaw says:

    The names Trump and Reagan should never be posted together. Reagan was a god. Only Trump thinks he is a god.

  95. Wes says:

    Game boy also forgets Reagan was coming off a brutal recession in early 1983. Trump is this unpopular both personally and professionally with a strong economy Obama is trying to take credit for. That says a lot.

    This litany of self-inflicted wounds isn’t helping things.

    Keep setting yourself up for disappointment though.

  96. CG says:

    The NYCMike Award for Knowledge of U.S. History goes to Rep. Peter Welch!

  97. Bitterlaw says:

    I hate Trump. I hope he wins again in 2020. Both can be true.

  98. jason says:

    Jason – Trump said to blame him. People are blaming him. Not shocking.”

    Zzzzzzzz… and so what?

    Trump will be blamed for everything from CA fires to hurricanes to floods to droughts to blizzards and volcanic eruptions. Not shocking.

    Saying Trump is “to blame” for the shutdown is ok Saying the Dems “are to blame” for the shutdown they have chosen to keep in place is ok too.

    The Dems have decided the shutdown benefits them politically. Maybe it does.

    But pretending they “care about Federal workers and those suffering, blah blah blah” is unmitigated horse crap. They don’t care about anybody “suffering” from the shutdown, these people are props and propaganda tools.

    The reason they don’t give in to the $5 billion, which is peanuts and won’t build any wall, is because they are held hostage by the far left moonbats who expect them to come through on their promise to oppose Trump no matter what.

  99. jason says:

    We could end up with zero growth” in first quarter “if shutdown extends for the whole quarter” says WH economic adviser Kevin Hassett on @CNNnewsroom just now.”

    Wow, Amoral Scumbag really excited about prospects of a bad economy, because that would be bad for Trump.

    Amoral Scumbag would not only sell his mother and sister into slavery if it was bad for Trump, he actually hopes the economy will tank because Trump kicked Jeb Bush’s ass.

  100. Wobbles says:

    Robbie….thanks for popping in today with the daily DNC talking points. ”

    No need to thank me.

    I am a professional.

  101. Tina says:

    Trump sends a letter to piglosi, SOTU is on, unless she refuses access to the house chamber.

  102. jason says:

    I hate Trump. I hope he wins again in 2020. Both can be true.”

    Here is how I look at it.

    I hate socialism.

    If avoiding it or delaying it means I have to vote for Trump, I will do it and never regret it.

  103. jason says:

    I suppose he could deliver SOTU from the senate floor.

  104. Tina says:

    Jon Levine
    Jon Levine

    “The Black Israelites, they were saying some harsh things, but some of it was true, too,” Phillips said

    Native American leader of Michigan: I saw ‘mob mentality’ in students

    Keep talking “Vietnam Veteran”. Would it be too much trouble to ask for your tribal cards showing that you are a member of a state or federally recognized tribe?

  105. dblaikie says:

    Bitter, believe me I know that there is plenty of anti-Trump sentiment out there over the shut down. Any time you do something controversial there will be some who will be angry and some who will support what you do. However the point of my post was that after making a bad unforced error Trump has turned the corner because dem overreach is bailing him out. That is hardly the thoughts of a “Trump whisperer.”

  106. jason says:

    Trump should take it and declare victory. A smart wall is better than no wall and also better than a physical wal..

    “WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The No. 3 Democrat in the U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday raised the possibility of approving $5.7 billion in funding to secure the U.S. border though various means but not by building a wall.

    Referring to Republican President Donald Trump’s demand for $5.7 billion to build a barrier along the U.S.-Mexico border, U.S. House Majority Whip James Clyburn told reporters, “We see ourselves fulfilling that request” with a “smart wall.”

    Clyburn, at a news conference, said the $5.7 billion that the House could consider would be used to fund more drones, X-rays, sensors and border patrol agents but could not be used to build Trump’s wall.”

  107. Tina says:

    Rep. Ilhan Omar deletes tweet attacking Covington students, after backlash (link: #FoxNews

    And the sheot show continues,

  108. dblaikie says:

    The next step for Trump recovering from this chapter of his tenure is for Nancy to answer his letter by saying she will not let him come for the SOTU speech. And the truth is with his letter saying he is coming is that there is no way out for her.

  109. Tina says:

    What is a smart wall?

    Last week, piglosi mentioned a smart dog.

    Notice how more and more drats appear to be moving away from the no wall, $1 for a wall?

    Why is that?

  110. Tina says:

    She can deny him.

    Then, he takes it to the people at a different site.

    Gives congress a copy of it.

    His constitutional duties are then fulfilled.

  111. Weeble says:

    Wobbles rocks!!!!!

  112. NYCmike says:

    “When he met with Schumer and Pelosi at the White House, Trump said to blame him for the shutdown. NYC forgets that.”

    -When did I forget this?

    Trump is to blame. Fine.


    Let it play out. I support the effort so far, hopefully the Republicans won’t waffle.

  113. NYCmike says:

    “Wrecking the economy to own the libs.”

    -Robbie is worried about ZERO percent growth for the 1st quarter……which I assume he will blame on Trump’s policies/actions.

    Robbie, did you like the prior 3-4% growth quarters, and did Trump’s policies/actions have anything to do with that?

    Will you support the Republican candidate in 2020, or stand on the sideline for the Democratic candidate, who will try to re-institute the 1% growth policies of President Obama?

  114. lisab says:

    “So you ARE enjoying the suffering of the furloughed and TSA, Coast Guard members who are victims of involuntary servitude as mentioned in the 13th Amendment”

    since the WILL be paid,

    and since their service is voluntary — they can quit after all

    it is not involuntary servitude

  115. Wes says:

    It doesn’t look as if Dems are bailing Trump out. By a 57-35 margin, voters blame Trump over congressional Dems:

  116. NYCmike says:

    #120 – You are a fragile individual.

  117. Wes says:

    Mikey defines realistic as fragile.

    You may need a suicide hotline in your caller ID to cope with November 2020.

  118. NYCmike says:

    “Mikey defines realistic as fragile.”

    -Realistic? It is January 2019.

    These polls do NOT matter.

  119. lisab says:

    if trump gets his money

    the dems likely lose in 2020

    it will shatter the dem party

  120. NYCmike says:

    “You may need a suicide hotline in your caller ID to cope with November 2020.”

    -Let’s not bring something like this into the mix, unless you want to bring up fragile mental states.

    Suicide isn’t a joking matter.

    And a President with a different economic policy outlook is definitely NOT a reason to commit suicide.

  121. lisab says:

    also, if howard shultz runs

    the dems might be done anyway

  122. Wes says:

    They didn’t matter early last year either, Mikey. I heard that anyway. How’d that work out in November?

  123. lisab says:

    i don’t think the trolls mentioned this, i am surprised

    Gay Valedictorian Banned From Speaking At High School Graduation Not Shocked At Video

  124. NYCmike says:

    “How’d that work out in November?”

    -Just like Robbie wanted it to…..DANG IT!

    Not sure what your point is.

    Trump is a j*ck*ss. He is a better President than anyone running as a Democrat.

    I’ll throw in the towel on the day AFTER the 2020 election, if it goes against my choice.

  125. CG says:

    Why not be open to the idea of a different Republican. Do you think it is possible a different Republican would be a stronger candidate and a better President?

    Why be OnlyTrump?

  126. Tina says:

    Piglosi states SOTU is off.

    Per cnn,

    She fell into a trap.

  127. Tina says:

    She says house will not pass a resolution, so no SOTU.


    This is just wonderful.

  128. CG says:

    I would put the number of Americans who care whether or not the State of the Union program airs on January 29 at about 15% and none of them are a persuadable voter.

  129. Tina says:

    President Trump was speaking with reporters at the White House when he was informed about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s letter informing him that the State of the Union won’t happen on Tuesday at the House.

    “I’m not surprised,” Trump said when a reporter told him about the news. “It’s really a shame what’s happening with the Democrats. They’ve become radicalized.”

  130. CG says:

    Anthony Scaramucci quit the Celebrity Big Brother house.

    He lasted far shorter there than he even did in the White House.

  131. Wes says:

    Trump can just do what every President from Jefferson to Taft did and send a letter to Congress for his address to the nation.

  132. CG says:

    He should Tweet the SOTU from the White House john at 4 am. Would be a perfect representation of his Presidency.

  133. Paul says:

    I think Nancy is likely gaining in popularity for putting Trump off. Upsetting only for the Trumper diehards.

  134. Wes says:

    Mikey says polls for Trump’s re-election don’t matter now. I said I heard the same thing about polls last year regarding the midterms. Mikey doesn’t understand my point. He wonders why I call him stupid.

  135. Wes says:

    I highly doubt Pelosi will ever have any popularity outside her gerrymandered district, Paul. She needs the kind of foil Trump provides to avoid being a lightning rod. That won’t be the case after 1-20-2021.

  136. Tina says:

    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    ‘Sources Say’ is Greek for ‘Fake News’
    If you had done that 48 hours ago, you might still have a reputation.
    Quote Tweet
    Kirsten Powers
    Every day I get up and say “no more Twitter” and somehow end up back here. I always regret it.

    Deleting the app now.

    Bye Felicia.

  137. NYCmike says:

    #131 – more evidence that “CG” does NOT read what others write.

  138. CG says:

    You didn’t answer the questions.

    And new thread

  139. Tina says:

    I need to be more open to another candidate other than Hillary in 2020.


  140. jason says:

    Why not be open to the idea of a different Republican. Do you think it is possible a different Republican would be a stronger candidate and a better President?

    Why be OnlyTrump?”

    A lot of people might be better Presidents, but first you have to win.

    Only Trump would have won in 2016.

    I don’t see anyone who could beat him at the moment for the nomination. That means that any attempt to primary him by someone who has no chance at the nomination would just be divisive and a waste of resources and a big help to the socialists running on the Dem side.

    I understand that a divided party does not make for good prospects of winning a GE, but I don’t see how a divisive primary is going to improve the odds. Ideally the party would unite behind Trump… it won’t happen but it won’t unite behind anyone else either.

    As an independent who does not want a socialist President, I think Trump is still the best option to avoid that. Everything is relative. But the candidates being talked about, Haley, Romney, etc. are not going to unite the party, far from it.

    Any third party run by someone like Kasich will only ensure victory for the socialist.

    If Trump does not run, different story. If he runs, I will support him because I don’t see a viable alternative.

    He is definitely better than any socialist.

    I don’t disagree he has an uphill climb. I just don’t agree there is any better climber than him.

  141. CG says:

    Any Republican alternative looks more viable at this point, not to mention far more worthy.

    But it is hypocritical for people to say “ignore the polls. No matter what they say, Trump can definitely win” while at the same time saying “no other Republican can win. Not a chance. Forget about it.”

    People’s loyalties seem to be far more to Trump personally than to any party, ideology, or purpose.

  142. jason says:

    It doesn’t look as if Dems are bailing Trump out. By a 57-35 margin, voters blame Trump over congressional Dems”

    I think this is misleading. “Blame” might not necessarily mean disagree with Trump’s argument that we need to have control over our borders.

    It’s possible that 80% will say Pelosi will be to blame if there is no SOTU. But that doesn’t mean 80% will disagree with her motives.

  143. jason says:

    eople’s loyalties seem to be far more to Trump personally than to any party, ideology, or purpose.”

    Zzzzz… what garbage.

    I have no loyalty to Trump, I didn’t even vote for him.

    However, I am not so consumed by sour grapes and blind hatred that I have to deny nobody else would have won in 2016 and that he is by far the strongest candidate to win the R primary.

    Show me the candidate that can beat Trump in a R primary. Tell me its Haley or Romney and I will LMAO.

  144. CG says:

    You are so beholden to him, you do not even realize it. He owns you like Ricardo Montalban owned Reggie Jackson in the Naked Gun.

    Truly sad.

  145. CG says:

    A R primary is irrelevant. Trump should not run in an R primary. He is a failed leader and a weak candidate.

    He also has tremendous legal problems at the moment, which complicate things further.

    Anybody who actually cares about preventing a liberal Democrat from being President should at the minimum hope that Trump decides not to run again.

  146. CG says:

    Certainly nobody thought Trump had a prayer of being nominated in January of 2015 and certainly many people do not think that a nonTrump has a prayer of being nominated as we sit here in January of 2019.

    Yet, the latter happened and those who want to point to Trump’s surprise 2016 win as proof of “anything is possible”, need to not be hypocrites and admit we do not know what might potentially happen.

  147. NYCmike says:

    “Would be a perfect representation of his Presidency.”…….which is, even from his commode, a YUGE improvement from his predecessor and/or the alternative if he had lost the 2016 election.

  148. jason says:

    You are so beholden to him, you do not even realize it.”


    This from someone who wants the country to fail just because it might be bad for a candidate he doesn’t like because he can’t get over the election results.

    Really sad.

  149. CG says:

    I don’t want the country to fail. I want better for my country than the unending shame and disgrace of Donald J. Trump.

  150. jason says:

    Nah, you don’t give a damm about the country.

    You are a close minded, petty, bitter, revengeful little sh-t that cannot get over the fact that you were wrong about 2016 and about your failed, pathetic loser of a candidate.

    You have no altruistic motives. To the contrary, you are a selfish self loathing spiteful person who cannot deal with reality.

    How is that for “psychological analysis”.

  151. CG says:

    Very weak of course, but expected from someone who has become a true cultist.

  152. Wes says:

    Mikey has already tipped us off to the meme progression on HHR for the next 21 months:

    1) It’s too early. Polls don’t mean anything.

    2) Polls are sampling too many Democrats.

    3) Ignore the polls.

    4) Only Rasmussen is right.

    5) The media are trying to depress Republican turnout with their polls.

    6) I don’t believe the polls.

    7) The polls were wrong in 2016.

    8) The only poll that matters is on Election Day.

    9) Trump proved the polls wrong before.

    10) These polls don’t account for Dem overreach.

    Finally when Biden wins and Trump launches into a meandering nonconsession babbling about fake news and how voters didn’t love him enough, we’ll get this from his supporters as they go full Polaris:

    11) The polls were wrong. The voters just didn’t follow that.

  153. lisab says:


    Gay valedictorian banned from speaking at Covington graduation

  154. lisab says:

    Finally when Biden wins

    not sure he will be able to get the nomination

    i doubt he is the second choice of many dems

    i think the far left will dominate this time

  155. lisab says:

    trump has been invited to give the sotu in several state legislatures …



  156. lisab says:


    “We are now a state recognizing the non-binary designation as a gender,” Jackson said. “We are using the phrase they and replacing other designations so that it’s a gender neutral designation of they. Basically that’s the primary reforms and revisions to the committee rules.”

    “We are using what my grammar teacher would have heart attack over. We are using the phrase they. My grammar teacher’s long gone. And I won’t be hearing from her. If any of you — ”

    She was cut off mid sentence from several people in the audience who corrected her and insisted she use the words them or they.

  157. Wes says:

    With friends like his Commerce Secretary, Trump doesn’t need enemies:

    Let’s just all make every unforced error possible.