Biden/Trump Tied in AZ

We got more numbers from that Arizona poll I posted earlier in the week from OH Predictive Insights. The additional numbers show Donald Trump with a decent lead unless Joe Biden becomes the Democratic nominee.

Donald Trump (R-inc) 46%
Joe Biden (D) 46%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 49%
Kamala Harris (D) 40%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 49%
Elizabeth Warren (D) 38%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 49%
Bernie Sanders (D) 37%

This poll was done February 12-13 among 600 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 10:49 am
Filed under: General | Comments (50)

50 Responses to “Biden/Trump Tied in AZ”

  1. Tgca says:

    Dos Bebe! Dos!

  2. jason says:

    Dos, amigos, dos!

  3. jason says:


    Quatro, cabrones, quatro.

  4. jason says:

    At “listening session” in Portland the black female police chief was shouted down by people advocating the end of the police force.

    “Woman started off by saying we are on “stolen land.” Crowd claps. She stops & tells them to snap their fingers instead. She wants police to be disbanded. “Blue lives do not matter because they don’t exist.” She calls @ChiefDOutlaw a race traitor of black & brown people.”

    Loony is becoming mainstream.

  5. Tgca says:

    I disagree Jadon! I’m not so sure Loony is becoming mainstream. I think it’s more like the squeaky wheel gets the oil. All these activist have not much better to do with their lives so they come out in numbers for political events because it’s like entertainment for them and something to do to get together with their kinfolk.

    While the rest of society is working or doing family or other meaningful extracurricular activities, these folks live for opportunities where they can congregate like roaches in a damp dark area.

    They are no where near a majority. They just use social media and the MSM to gain attention. If it were not for social media and the MSM, most would not even know of their existence.

  6. jason says:

    The difference is that in the past the MSM had its limits on what was considered loony tunes.

    No longer.

    On CNN and MSNBC there are people talking about the “pro-Trump Chicago police” framing Jussie. I kid you not.

    The MSM is making the radical left mainstream.

  7. jason says:

    Looks like Sanders will have problems with AAs again…

    “Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-NY) told CNN’s Poppy Harlow Thursday morning

    “Bernie Sanders is not a Democrat,” Meeks said. “I don’t understand why Bernie Sanders, who does not want to become a member of the Democratic Party… [would] run as a Democrat. We’ve asked him on a continuous basis, if in fact, you want to be the Democratic nominee, you should be a Democrat. If you’re not a Democrat, you should not run. You should run as an Independent. He is not a Democrat.”

    “To me, I would not allow a Republican to run as a Democrat for the Democratic nomination,” he added.”

  8. jason says:

    But I certainly endorse Meeks’ suggestion:

    Sanders should run as an Independent.

  9. Bitterlaw says:

    I saw on the last thread that Wes must think I still live in New Jersey and influence it’s politics. I left New Jersey for college and law school from 1986 to 1993. I moved to Philadelphia in 1994 and have lived in PA for 25 years.

    For an intelligent person, Wes can really be a moron.

  10. Wes says:

    I know where you live, Bitter. I also know SEPARATE is nearly as bad as New Jersey with its corruption and activist judges. I also know you want to own a beach home in the Sewer State. Because of that and your seething anti-Southern bigotry, I delight in tying you to that ethical abattoir you want to own property in.

  11. Wes says:

    One of two Senators only Bitterlaw can love received the endorsement of a bunch of inmates-in-waiting, including the other Senator only Bitterlaw can love:

  12. Tgca says:



    Wes just threatened Bitter with “I know where you live” remark.

    In NJ, that is code for “you’re dead mothaf…”

  13. Tgca says:


    …well, at least in northeast Jersey. South Jersey folks task a little differently than we northereastern Jersey dudes.

  14. Tgca says:


    Clark Gable died yesterday. I did not see that with all this free Jussie coverage.

  15. Wes says:

    Heh. I just realized my phone autocorrected SEPA to separate.

  16. Wes says:

    Not a threat as written, Tg, since I was referring to knowledge of general area rather than specific location.

  17. jason says:

    wes, the Amish Mafia can handle your needs here in PA.

  18. mnw says:

    I still can’t figure out why all those superrich guys went to a strip mall Asian massage parlor for the $79 special.

  19. jason says:

    Rich people are often cheap. I remember playing poker with a guy that was worth over $100 million a few times. You could get him to fold on a $5 raise if he thought he didn’t have the cards. He didn’t believe in throwing money away even if it was $5.

  20. jason says:

    So in other words, if you can get a BJ for $79 bucks, why pay $250.

  21. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Donald J. Trump
    ?”Highly respected Senator Richard Burr, head of Senate Intelligence, said, after interviewing over 200 witnesses and studying over 2 million pages of documents, “WE HAVE FOUND NO COLLUSION BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA.” The Witch Hunt, so bad for our Country, must end!”

    Trump has a point. After an investigation lasting two years, where is the collusion? It now appears the release of the Mueller report has now become almost a non-event.

  22. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Sonny Perdue
    “BREAKING: In Oval Office meeting today, the Chinese committed to buy an additional 10 million metric tons of U.S. soybeans. Hats off to @POTUS for bringing China to the table. Strategy is working. Show of good faith by the Chinese. Also indications of more good news to come.”

    If Trump successfully enters into a trade agreement with China, and also there is progress at the summit with the North Korean leader, Trump will be going into 2020 with two major diplomatic achievements. This will happen while the Democrats continue to disintegrate into factions, many of which are controlled by crazy leftists.

  23. jason says:

    Maybe Trump will eventually get the Chinese to buy almost as many soybeans as they would have bought without the stupid trade war.

    Then the AFL-CIO conservatives can declare victory.

  24. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    25. It appears the U.S. economy is doing just fine despite Trump’s tariffs on China. This from AP News, which usually has a strong anti-Trump bias:

    “WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump will enjoy the backdrop of a mostly solid economy as he delivers his second State of the Union address Tuesday night, though questions about its sustainability linger.

    Trump will likely tout the latest signs of strength: Friday’s jobs report showed that employers added the most jobs in January in nearly a year. The proportion of Americans working or looking for work reached a roughly five-year high. And a separate report showed that factory output rose at a healthy clip in December.”

    China is actually the economy now that is showing signs of hurting; but once they agree to real free trade and drop their protectionists policies, things will get better for them.

  25. jason says:

    but once they agree to real free trade”


    F–king for virginity!

  26. jason says:

    The idea that Trump is for “real free trade” might just be the most delusional thing I have read here, and it has a lot of competition.

  27. jason says:

    Trump has been selling economic protectionism and isolationism for decades. He is for “real free trade” as much as Bernie Sanders is for real free enterprise.

  28. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    So Jason, are claiming that prior to Trump the U.S. and China were engaged in free trade?

  29. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Great article in the Washington Post from last month:

    “Actually doing anything that could alleviate these misdeeds was beyond the pale. Americans were making money, and nothing ought to disturb the gravy train that was funding so many Wall Street and CEO bonuses.
    I have a saying when it comes to any type of negotiations: If you can’t walk away, you will overpay. For nearly 20 years, American leaders of both parties had shown they were not willing to even contemplate walking away. Is it any wonder that for decades, many Americans overpaid in terms of lost jobs, declining wages and crumbling communities?
    Trump seems to be willing to walk away from bad deals. He knew we were overpaying, and he knew that quiet efforts to cajole better behavior had largely fallen on deaf ears in Beijing. So he turned the tables and started to walk away.
    That’s all the tariffs were ever meant to do — serve as the stick that would push China to the bargaining table. Trump had to be willing to follow through if that tactic failed, and for the better part of a year he held firm. But in Argentina last month, the Chinese, faced with data showing that their economy was slowing down as ours roared ahead, asked for a truce. Trump accepted, and that’s where we stand.
    This should serve as a wake-up call to business leaders, economists and politicians. Tough talk backed by tough action can get results. A nation does have to worry about the distributional effects arising from market transactions. It’s good business to pay attention to your home country and its citizens, even if the shareholders might get a slightly smaller return.”

  30. jason says:

    So Jason, are claiming that prior to Trump the U.S. and China were engaged in free trade?”

    Nice red herring.

    All the AFL-CIO conservatives love this fake argument.

    We should not pursue and promote free trade because there are others that don’t engage in free trade.

    Would you use this argument about communism? We can’t promote capitalism and free enterprise because some countries are communist?

    Let’s face it, just admit this ridiculous argument is just an excuse to ensure there is never any free trade.

  31. jason says:

    So the WAPO, a leftist rag, supports the AFL-CIO agenda of the last 40 years?

    Wow, what a surprise!

  32. jason says:

    Let’s stop the BS that Trump was using tariffs as a “negotiating tool”.

    The reason he was using tariffs is that he is a protectionist that believes in economic isolationism.

    This is not a negotiating strategy. This is dogma.

  33. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    32. “We should not pursue and promote free trade because there are others that don’t engage in free trade.”

    It takes two to tango. Its not something you can do solo.

  34. jason says:

    If you believe in free trade, you don’t support tariffs.

    If you support tariffs, you don’t believe in free trade.

    It’s really not rocket science.

  35. jason says:

    It takes two to tango. Its not something you can do solo.”


    Translation: nobody can ever support free trade.

    How convenient for the AFL-CIO conservatives.

  36. jason says:

    Here is the message from the AFL-CIO conservatives.

    Unless every country in the world is for free trade then nobody can advocate for free trade.

    What a brilliant argument!

  37. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Afraid the possibility the Democrats will be singing kumbaya and nominating Biden is diminishing. Latest New Hampshire poll from Emerson:

    Sanders 27%
    Biden 25%
    Harris 12%
    Warren 9%
    Klobucher 8%

    18-34 year old voters are 44% behind Sanders.

  38. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Meanwhile Republican meanies are planning to create divisions on leftist policy issues among Democrats:

    “Democrats’ embrace of sweeping progressive ideas like Medicare for All and the Green New Deal is about to get its first reality check on Capitol Hill — as both parties make huge bets about which message will sway voters in 2020.

    For liberal Democrats, proposals to provide universal health care, combat climate change and create a fairer economy represent the kind of bold agenda they will need to unseat President Donald Trump, a candidate unafraid to make his own brash moves on trade and immigration. But Republicans are seizing on the same proposals to paint Democrats as socialist radicals, while trying to widen the ideological splits already emerging among Trump’s would-be challengers.

    Senate Republicans plan to force a vote as early as next week, S.J. Res. 8, on progressives’ Green New Deal climate resolution, which has drawn support from almost all of the chamber’s declared and potential Democratic presidential hopefuls. House Democrats, meanwhile, are set to unveil legislation guaranteeing government-funded health care for all Americans — amid conflicting poll numbers about voters’ willingness to upend the existing health insurance market.”

  39. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    38. “Unless every country in the world is for free trade then nobody can advocate for free trade. What a brilliant argument!”

    Thank you! It is a great argument. Lets have all the countries of the world get together and agree to adopt free trade policies. Unless a country agrees to the polices, they won’t be part of and get the benefits of the agreement.

  40. Wes says:

    I like how SDC likes to pretend 1930 was not an actual year to justify this trade war nonsense.

  41. jason says:

    SDC should be honest and admit he hates free trade just as much as Trump.

    Then we wouldn’t need the charade of “unless every country is for free trade” we shouldn’t promote and support free trade.

    Because the contortions and convoluted arguments are hilarious.

  42. jason says:

    “Let’s have all the countries of the world get together and agree to adopt free trade policies”


    Let’s get together and adopt capitalism and free enterprise!

    Let’s get together and support human rights!

    Let’s get together and end all conflicts!

    Let;s get together and love puppies and kittens!

  43. jason says:

    I like how SDC likes to pretend 1930 was not an actual year to justify this trade war nonsense.”

    Hey, trade wars are the way to prevent trade wars.

    Tariffs are the way to promote free trade.

    When you are in the pretend world, anything is possible!

  44. jason says:

    NYT already has a hit job on Klobuchar.

    They are probably worried the big field will hurt the Dems for the GE.

  45. jason says:

    Where is NYC?

    He is against tariffs, unless Trump implements them.

  46. Tgca says:

    New thread you MAGA racists!

    Justice for Jussie!

    He’s been framed by Nigerians and Chicago police.

  47. Bitterlaw says:

    I wonder if being with Wes only caused one woman to be beaten by her boyfriend or others, too.

    I wonder if Wes is pro-choice because the emotionally damaged women he preys upon have needed that service.

  48. NYCmike says:

    “Where is NYC?”

    -Were you looking for the latitude and longitude, or a link to Google Maps?

    It hasn’t moved in a while……..