Dems Leads Trump in WI, Trump leads Dems in MI, Split in PA

This apparently came out over the weekend from Firehouse Strategies and 0ptimus. We have a set of polls for the three states of Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan that show Trump still in decent positions of holding both Michigan and Pennsylvania where Wisconsin might be getting away from him a little.

Joe Biden (D) 53%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 40%

Bernie Sanders (D) 48%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Beto O’Rourke (D) 45%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 42%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 46%
Joe Biden (D) 45%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 46%
Bernie Sanders (D) 45%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 48%
Beto O’Rourke (D) 39%

Joe Biden (D) 50%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 43%

Bernie Sanders (D) 44%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 44%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 47%
Beto O’Rourke (D) 40%

These polls were done March 19-21 among 616 likely voters in WI, 632 likely voters in PA and 530 likely voters in MI.

Posted by Dave at 11:09 am
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96 Responses to “Dems Leads Trump in WI, Trump leads Dems in MI, Split in PA”

  1. mnw says:

    Booker: “If we’re going to have a carbon-free future, nuclear power has to be part of the equation.”

    Uh-oh. I find myself agreeing with… Cory Booker!?! I may be in big trouble.

  2. janz says:

    With those good numbers in MI, it’s no wonder Trump is heading there this Thursday for a rally.

  3. CG says:

    All charges dropped against Jussie Smollett.

    I guess he can claim to be the victim of a “witch hunt.” His legal team is already claiming total vindication.

    Something sure stinks about this. Lots of unanswered questions. From what I can gather immediately, it sounds like the Cook County States Attorney, Kim Foxx, who had previously recused herself on the case, decided to do him a favor. The Chicago PD are likely outraged and this is going to be quite a situation countywide.

  4. CG says:

    Smollett is maintaining he was the victim of a crime and has been completely honest about the entire situation.

    Unless there is something dramatic to be revealed later today, there is a mountain of evidence to suggest otherwise.

    But when a prosecutor decides to give you a break or cut you a sweetheart deal, you get to claim to be totally innocent..

  5. janz says:

    Police in Chicago are furious about the reversal on they should be.

  6. janz says:

    Miscellaneous tidbits:

    Michael Jordan has turned his back on dem party – no longer affiliated with it.

    Yesterday freshmen dems boarded a bus and took a field trip to hear “The One” politically school them. Perhaps a Plan B was even in the offering, given the disappointment of Mueller’s Report in putting down Trump.

  7. lisab says:

    I guess he can claim to be the victim of a “witch hunt.” His legal team is already claiming total vindication.

    bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    somebody is still sore

  8. lisab says:

    soooooo half-truth corey …

    do you see russian collusion in the room with you now? 🙂

  9. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    From the last thread:

    “So unbelievably f*cking stupid. Hopefully SanDiegoRetard becomes SanDiegoObituary soons enough.”

    Trolls on the board can sure be slimy sometimes.

  10. Phil says:

    SD, what do you expect. They are butt hurt. When the left gets butt hurt they drop the mask and get ugly. Can’t help themselves. Don’t forget, it’s a leftist who shot up a Republican congressional softball practice because he was pissed about the election. It was a leftist who tackled Senator Paul from behind and broke four of his ribs.

    They are loons. Angry loons.

  11. CG says:

    “Mr. Smollett is still saying that he is innocent, still running down the Chicago Police Department. How dare him?” “Is there no decency in this man?” – Mayor Rahm Emanuel

  12. Big Joe says:

    Polls seem inconsistent. I’m not understanding how the avuncular Joe Biden can be blowing out the Donald in WI while losing in MI. Seems odd.

    Big Joe

  13. Chicon says:

    The Smollett and Trump cases are identical to half-truth Corey.

  14. CG says:

    No, not identical although Donald Trump and Jussie Smollett are both entitled scumbags.

    I have made it very clear that I have full confidence in the decision reached by Robert Mueller.

    I have zero confidence in what the Cook County States’ Attorney’s Office did today. It reeks of corruption and is a stark demonstration of miscarriage of justice.

    The only way to defeat State’s Attorney Kim Foxx is probably going to be in next year’s Democrat primary. A lot of Republicans throughout Cook County may have to take a Democrat ballot just to do that.

  15. CG says:

    Foxx is the political protégé of Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle, the current “boss” of Cook County Democrats and a desperate Mayoral candidate as polls show her way behind.

    Over the weekend, Congressman Bobby Rush (who had supported Bill Daley in the first round) said that anybody who votes for Lori Lightfoot will have “blood on their hands” the next time a black or brown person is killed by the police. Despicable statement and Preckwinkle refused to denounce it. Rush, who has a long history of saying racially inflammatory things, said something exactly the way Donald Trump would say it, although Trump would be talking about immigrants perhaps.

    I hope to see Lightfoot trounce Preckwinkle a week from today.

  16. NYCmike says:

    “I have made it very clear that I have full confidence in the decision reached by Robert Mueller.”

    -Supposedly, Mueller left open the idea that Trump obstructed justice.

    What “justice” does Saint Bob think Trump obstructed?

  17. CG says:

    He punted on that issue and left it up to Trump’s AG. I don’t know why he did that but I trust he thought he was doing the right thing. We should see the entire report. The House voted 420-0 to do so and Trump said he has no objections. That should be done quickly.

    Other prosecutors would not have punted on the obstruction issue. Ken Starr certainly would not have. Starr would have probably fought to the end to subpoena Trump as well. So, Trump should consider himself very lucky that Robert Mueller, the man you said reminded you of a “Fuhrer” was the person in charge of all of this. It seems like he bent over backwards to be fair.

  18. NYCmike says:

    Ken Starr is the bogie-man again!

  19. NYCmike says:

    I said Mueller reminded me of a “Fuhrer”?


  20. Phil says:

    Collusion. Total hoax. The end.

    Predictably, The left already started beating up on Barr. Seems he is not impartial….unlike those pillars of impartiality at the FBI who conducted the investigation of Hillary Clinton and decided not to recommend charging her with anything. Comey, McCabe, Smirk, Paige…now that’s the standard.

    I look forward to the inspector general’s report. Gonna be fun.

  21. CG says:

    You sure did NYC. You said that while it was Tina’s term, you could understand where she is coming from because….. power of the state.. using the resources of the government…. things like that.

  22. CG says:

    I will repeat that for well over a year now, as long as Mueller has been called “Fuhrer” on here, the *only* Trump voter/apologist to express one word of disagreement with the term has been Bitterlaw.

  23. NYCmike says:

    “You sure did NYC. You said that while it was Tina’s term, you could understand where she is coming from because….. power of the state.. using the resources of the government…. things like that.”

    -Ok, so I never said he reminded me of a “Fuhrer”, but that the tactics being used reminded me of those used in a police state.

    This is a good reason why they ask a person to “Do you swear to tell the WHOLE TRUTH……”.

  24. CG says:

    You more than proved my point. You said you agreed with the characterization and gave reasons why.

    If not, it is very simple to say, “I do not believe Robert Mueller resembles a Fuhrer.”

  25. CG says:

    If this were a “police state” the outcome would have been a foregone conclusion.

    Clearly, that canard has been disproven. The system worked, did it not? Now, let’s see the full report.

    And for the story that interests me far more today, let’s unseal the Jussie Smollett proceedings. Now, that the case is sealed, the evidence cannot be presented. Sources say that more than 80% of the evidence against him was never made public.

  26. Phil says:

    Flynn is is in debt for almost five million in legal fees. He’s bankrupt because of a phony investigation based on nothing but a fake dossier bought and paid for by a political campaign and then used for the sole purpose of trying to take down a duly elected president.

    I think Mueller will survive being referred to as Fuhrer or anything else for that matter.

  27. CG says:

    It is beyond contention that Flynn lied to the FBI about his contact with Russians. Not even a question about that. It is a fact.

    If Trump thinks he should be pardoned, it’s in his power to do so. Let’s see if he wants to do that.

  28. NYCmike says:

    Transparency all around – fine with me.

  29. NYCmike says:

    “If this were a “police state” the outcome would have been a foregone conclusion.”

    -Nobody said it was a police state.

    Arresting people in the middle of the night instead of doing it in the middle of the day should be reserved for certain types of behavior…….if it isn’t necessary, why put any innocent lives in jeopardy?

  30. CG says:

    Phil was the one saying on here who occasionally said the fix was in and that Mueller would charge Trump with a crime and that Trump would be driven out of office because of it.

    Certainly would be deserving of a high seed in the March Madness competition.

  31. NYCmike says:

    “Clearly, that canard has been disproven. The system worked, did it not? Now, let’s see the full report.”

    -The system worked?

    What crime was committed which precipitated this whole soap opera?

  32. Phil says:

    The whole investigation was a put up job. Nobody did squat. That is also “a fact”.

  33. CG says:

    Who was arrested in the “middle of the night” besides Roger Stone, (outside of Robert Mueller’s investigation anyway) who also had his house raided at the same time because he was considered a risk to destroy evidence and who had also talked about shooting law enforcement.

  34. NYCmike says:

    Oh right – achieving the double whammy of potentially ending BOTH the Bush and Clinton holds on the White House and assorted levers of power.

  35. Phil says:


    That was the plan. Sorry it didn’t work out for you. Maybe next time.

  36. Chicon says:

    28 – half-truth strikes again. Strock and other agents did not believe Flynn had lied. He plead guilty to protect his family.

  37. CG says:

    The crime was committed by Russia. They tried to interfere in our election. Do you still dispute that? People have been charged.

    There never would have been a special counsel if Trump had not fired Comey. He had the right to fire Comey but on at least two occasions he claimed it was because of Russia, so there was a lot of smoke there. Trump should be a whole lot more careful in the things he said. He is his own worse enemy and has himself to blame. Steve Bannon even warned him against firing Comey and told him this is exactly what would happen. He did it anyway.

    Mueller has now determined that Trump himself and some others around him who were under suspicion did not work with them to do so. As much as I dislike Trump and his posse, I am happy to hear that. Both things can be true. Now, what will Trump do to stand up to the Russians so they do not continue their crimes?

    It’s also pretty telling when the biggest fans of the current President feel the need to celebrate when their guy is cleared of a felony. Even Rudy Giuliani said he was surprised everyone was cleared.

  38. Phil says:

    Chicon, forgot about that. I remember that testimony now.

    Good ol Saint Half-truth strikes again.

  39. CG says:

    Being called “half truth” by those who deliberately go Four Pinnochios at every turn is actually a great compliment.

    Since NYC says the POTUS himself is only “1-10%” truthful, I would be too honest for the job.

  40. Chicon says:

    40 is an admission.

  41. Phil says:

    Nobody has disputed the Russians tried to sew chaos in the election. Nobody. That’s not what CNN has been pushing for two fricken years. They were pushing that Trump was in on it. Of course, you know that….

    I see Zucker is proud of their coverage BTW. The MSM is truly amazing.

  42. CG says:

    If I make a factual error, I would welcome it being pointed out. Everyone occasionally is wrong about something but I always try to be completely honest.

    For some though in the realm of political discourse, a disagreement is equivalent to a “lie.”

  43. CG says:

    Trump disputed it for a long time. Said it could be them, could be the Chinese, could be a 400lber.

    He said in Helsinki, well over a year into his Presidency, he took Putin at his word that he did not interfere. Then he walked that back amid an uproar.

    Just like he said he took Kim Jung Un at his word that he had nothing to do with what happened to Otto Warmbier.

    Trump seems to think he needs to take murderous dictators at their word. To me, that’s even wore than a “bow.”

  44. Chicon says:

    Anyone think that Corey would love the approach to Russia if it were being administered by President JEB!?

  45. CG says:

    Jeb Bush made it clear during his campaign and afterwards how differently he would have treated Russia and approached the U.S. relationship with Russia.

    Of course Mitt Romney did that in 2012 as well. He should be President today. Obama and Biden should also apologize to Mitt Romney and admit how right he was. Both Obama and Trump have been shockingly weak on Russia.

  46. mnw says:

    I see we’re back to the all-troll site now. Ugh.

    How’s “Navy vet” & “terrific fundraiser,” ” formidable prosecutor” Brendan Ryan doing today?

    Still gaining on “very controversial” Congressman Bost, is he?

  47. CG says:

    I can talk about Trump another time. I’m off because I am more interested today, (perhaps just because I am a resident of Cook County) with this Jussie Smollett craziness. I think what happened today is a travesty and in saying so, I believe I am defending the rights of red-hat wearing MAGA bastards everywhere to not be falsely accused of crimes, and that should be appreciated.

    Bye for now.

  48. Phil says:

    I think we all know what the Deep State, Never Trumpers, Democrats, and their MSM puppets we’re pushing over the last two years – it was a little deeper than just the Russians interfered. The left never gave a Sh*t about the Russians. It was about removing the guy who had the audacity to deny Hillary the WH….and that portion was based on a complete hoax.

  49. NYCmike says:

    “Since NYC says the POTUS himself is only “1-10%” truthful, I would be too honest for the job.”

    -I believe I said I ignore 90-99% of what ALL POLITICIANS say.

    Me deciding to “ignore” is quite different from deciding who is “truthful”.

    Thanks again, Half-Truth.

  50. CG says:

    The guy who lost to Bost, the one-time dog shooter, did precisely what I said he would do, and nothing more. He came several points closer than Bost’s previous opponent in the previous cycle had.

  51. NYCmike says:

    “and that should be appreciated.”

    -Shall we also sacrifice the fatted calf for you?

  52. CG says:

    As long as it’s not my fellow non-Trump voter, “Cash Cow.”

  53. J. Cutler says:


  54. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    53. “As long as it’s not my fellow non-Trump voter, “Cash Cow.””

    Can cows vote?

  55. Trump says:

    I really did collude with Russia and am a traitor to the United States. I don’t give a f%ck about any of your lowlifes.

  56. lisab says:

    Everyone occasionally is wrong about something but I always try to be completely honest.

    bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha !

  57. lisab says:

    dems vote present on the green new deal!

  58. lisab says:

    i thought the world was going to end in 12 years?!

    and the dems vote present!!!!!

    where is paul where is tipw!?

    why one might almost think the dems are trying to hide their true intentions

  59. Phil says:

    Twelve years left to save the planet and they vote present.

    Guess they don’t really care about saving the planet after all.

    At least not as much as winning the next election.

  60. lisab says:

    you know
    i wish that i had jussie’s girl
    i wish that i had jussie’s girl
    where can i find a lawyer like that

    i play along with the charade
    there doesn’t seem to be a reason to change
    you know, i feel so dirty when they start talking cute
    i wanna tell her that i’m maga
    but the point is probably moot

    you know
    i wish that i had jussie’s girl
    i wish that i had jussie’s girl
    where can i find a lawyer like that

  61. Tina says:

    He is triggered.

    CG says:
    March 26, 2019 at 3:08 pm
    I will repeat that for well over a year now, as long as Mueller has been called “Fuhrer” on here, the *only* Trump voter/apologist to express one word of disagreement with the term has been Bitterlaw.

  62. Tina says:

    More losing for the jebots today

    Green deal goes down. You know this would have been flubs signature issue, or expanding epa, education and the scope of gubment,

    Trumps veto is not overturned in the house,

  63. Phil says:

    Yes, Tina. Saint Half-truth came by today to tell us all how he ‘“always tries to be completely honest”…..just before he dropped another half truth on us.

    When he’s not lying he’s constantly patting himself on the back and bragging about his own benevolence.

  64. Tina says:

    Why yes, Phil, of course he is more honest, than Honest Abe.

  65. Bitterlaw says:

    It’s not my fault that Corey recognizes that I am a man of integrity and that I reject stupid comparisons of Mueller to a mass murderer and war monger.

  66. Tgca says:

    For what it’s worth, I’ll say it again. I think Mueller probably regretted taking the job. I think in the beginning he thought it may have been a slam dunk but as it unfolded, I think he realized it was not going to be an open and shut case, and he especially got cornered because Trump fought back and kept the spotlight on all the dirty tricks some people on his team did and his staffing decisions, especially Clinton lawyers and devoted supporters. Polls showed Mueller took a steep hit in his reputation from day 1, and I don’t think he expected that, especially that Trump would so brazenly challenge his investigations legitimacy.

    Two things stick out to me:

    1st, I think he realizes that a lot more is coming out on DOJ and FBI behavior so it would be hard for him to defend a collusion case when the collusion might end up being between selected DOJ and FBI personnel after the IG reports come out. The 1st IG report already did damage.

    2nd, he did not have the courage to make a decision either way on obstruction and pushed it to the AG so he can claim it was not his decision to make. Either way, he’d be heavily scorned so he did not do his duty. He took the easy way out.

  67. Phil says:

    I’m looking forward to the next IG report, Tgca.

  68. NYCmike says:

    I’m looking forward to the next time “CG” has to compliment Bitterlaw!

  69. Cash Cow TM says:



    Pne justice for regular folks
    and a different justice for the rich and famous?

    If the facts were as stated, J. Smollett’s arse belongs in jail.
    Now don’t play the race card and accuse me of being racist.
    I have many friends who are Black Angus.

  70. Cash Cow TM says:

    Now I am beginning to wonder is all the rich movie starts who got their idiot kids into prestigious colleges by bribing people and cheating will wlk away scot free.


  71. lisab says:

    Game of Thrones ‘ Sophie Turner Says She’s Experimented with Women

  72. Tina says:

    Jebots lose again. Nobody has had a sheotier week than them.

    Judge Jeanine returns to Faux News aka cn and n light,

    I am sure Shep Smith is happy,

  73. NYCmike says:

    “Game of Thrones ‘ Sophie Turner Says She’s Experimented with Women”

    -The experiment failed…..they are still talking!


  74. lisab says:

    not to you 🙂

  75. lisab says:

    Corey says:

    Utah, Georgia, Arizona, and Texas are now the battlegrounds thanks to “Donald J. Trump.”

  76. lisab says:

    Corey says:

    The national popular vote margin is going to be closer to 14 than it will be to 4, which was the margin between Obama and Romney.

    Several polls are already showing a double digit Clinton national lead. My theory is that in the final week to final few days, the reluctant left-leaning “undecideds” in the polls will “come home” to Hillary, Trump will be lashing out even more frantically, and her massive, beyond words, organizational advantages will translate to a popular vote margin of about 14.

    But as we all know, the popular vote does not decide things.

    Maybe Trump will get blown out in the states he doesn’t need but squeak thru where it matters thanks to all those people who never get polled!

    Keep hope alive!

  77. Phil says:

    Popular vote margin of 14? Damn. I didn’t remember that one. Yikes.

  78. lisab says:

    Corey says:

    I’ve been saying 52-38 for months now.

  79. lisab says:

    Corey says:

    As of today, I think Trump takes AL, AR, ID, KS, KY, LA, MS, MT, NE (statewide), ND, OK, SC, SD, TN, TX, WV, and WY.

    That’s it. 17 states. May even wind up less. I am not going to do the math.

    Ok, I did the math 401-136. Maybe McMullin takes Utah and holds Hillary under 400.

  80. Phil says:

    Yeah, Trump ended up taking 30 states I believe.

  81. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    78,81. Good grief. There is a difference between striking out, and showing up at the plate with a ping pong paddle.

  82. lisab says:

    i’m a naughty girl

    those kind of posts go on for months 🙂

  83. Tgca says:

    Rahm says Smollet getting off is a “whitewash of justice.”

    This is totally racist comment by a white guy to use against a black man.

    If Mueller can find no guilt on Trump, why can’t Chicago prosecutors find no guilt on Smollet. Isn’t that the way it works? Tit for tat.

  84. Tgca says:

    Justin for Jussie has prevailed!!! YES!!!

    Save America!
    Protect the Constitution!
    IMPEACH Trump for being a meanie!

  85. Tgca says:


    Justice dammit! Not Justin. Stoopid Siri.

  86. Tgca says:

    What a fookin’ hypocrite! Buden is a coward groveling to the latest trend of “white male” bashing. My suggestion to Biden is if you’re uncomfortable with the “white male” culture and privilege, do the noble thing and step aside for a qualified minority to run because you are the epitome of white male privilege and guilty of the concerns you voice.. Be honorable and ask of yourself what you ask of others.

    I don’t want candidates running on their skin color or culture. I want candidates running on the issues.

  87. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca – Is one of the issues ABORTION?

  88. mnw says:


    three iii’s is back to share his erudition with us, I see.

    I had hoped for awhile that he had ‘disintigrated’ (sic)

  89. Cash Cow TM says:


    I do not know that cow.

  90. jason says:


    Stenny Hoyer:

    “Democrats elected 62 freshman congressmen, not 3”

  91. jason says:

    A relatively small hole sank the Titanic and the Costa Concordia, Stenny.

  92. jason says:

    “Buden is a coward groveling to the latest trend of “white male” bashing.”

    Trying to think of something clever but it’s just not coming to me….

  93. NYCmike says: