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Biden Leads Trump By 13% Nationally

Public Policy Polling has come out with a new national poll showing all the Democrats tested ahead of Donald Trump nationally.

PRESIDENT – NATIONAL (PPP)
Joe Biden (D) 53%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 40%

Bernie Sanders (D) 49%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Cory Booker (D) 48%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Kamala Harris (D) 48%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Elizabeth Warren (D) 48%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 42%

Kirsten Gillibrand (D) 47%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Beto O’Rourke (D) 47%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Pete Buttigieg (D) 45%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

This poll was done March 27-28 among 846 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 1:33 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (648)

648 Responses to “Biden Leads Trump By 13% Nationally”

  1. jason says:

    I know you were waiting for it.

    Hitler finds out there was no collusion…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cVsmuxOj28

  2. lisab says:

    this seems like ppp trying to punch back at trump.

    i think biden is wounded, even drudge and cnn are reporting on his meetoo moment.

    i don’t see him being anywhere close to being up 13 outside of CA, NY, Il etc.

  3. Waingro says:

    Never change, PPP!

  4. mnw says:

    My favorite was, “Hitler Learns that USC Has Beaten Ohio State Again” (“My heart BLEEDS crimson and Gray!”)

  5. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/surprise-nyc-losing-restaurant-jobs-to-15-minimum-wage/

    -I sent this link to my liberal friends. I am hoping the Simpsons characters will help them understand the implications of their favored policies on their children about to become teens.

  6. lisab says:

    fox news: trump cuts aid to three mexican countries.
    ———–

    which three mexican countries?

  7. lisab says:

    antifa disrupts lgbt parade … for being …

    wait for it …

    anti-muslim!

  8. dblaikie says:

    How you can take a poll seriously that shows Booker ahead by 9? Totally bogus. This is the kind of stuff that will bring Wormtongue back.

  9. lisab says:

    chris wallace: kellyanne what about your marriage

    kellyanne: what are you oprah now?

  10. lisab says:

    wormtongue et al, claimed trump was down by 14

  11. NYCmike says:

    “kellyanne: what are you oprah now?”

    -She is top-rate!

  12. Tina says:

    BNL NEWS
    @BreakingNLive
    BREAKING: A Connecticut woman says former Vice President Joe Biden touched her inappropriately at a Greenwich fundraiser in 2009. She’s the second woman to accuse Biden of inappropriate behavior.

  13. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    How timely, a PPP propaganda poll. How do you post something like this without giggling?

  14. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Doubt this will become part of the sexual harassment discussion:

    “Pornography Teaches That “No” Doesn’t Really Mean “No” | Amy Rees Anderson’s Blog”

  15. mnw says:

    Tina 13

    OK, I’m convinced now that Biden’s candidacy is on life support. Wrong party to try to tough THIS kind of thing out.

  16. Tina says:

    It’s creepy, mnw. Especially the pics with the kids. Sniffing hair and touching kids.

    Their is video of Jeff sesssions slapping Biden’s hands away from his granddaughter, taken from the Senate.

  17. Phil says:

    Biden has been creepy for years, but the timing of this has been orchestrated by the identity politics candidates to keep Joe out of the race. They can’t have a white guy get the nomination so they are using the Kavanaugh tactics to dispatch Joe. Bernie will be next. That leaves Beto but he gets a pass because he’s Hispanic. The AP says he is. LOL

  18. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    19. Beto is supported by the tech and major business wing of the Democratic Party. They do not want a socialist like Sanders, and believe Beto has charisma and the ability to prevent a far leftist candidate from winning the primary.
    The media is fawning over Beto now in part for that reason.

    Biden is seen as too old and gaffe prone, and his presidential campaign might collapse, so they are hitting him now in an attempt to get him not to run. Uncle Joe does not have a high tolerance for taking political hits, like Trump, so it might work.

  19. Phil says:

    Yep. Kamala or Beto.

    The MSM loves them some Beto.

    He’s Hispanic you know.

    Thing is, have you heard Beto lately? He’s embraced the far left positions just like Bernie – even further left on gun control, all in on single payer, the green new deal, climate change, and absolutely as far left as you can get on immigration – to the point of tearing down the walls we already have. He’s not any less socialist than AOC. Not a bit.

  20. Paul says:

    O’Rourke/Harris is the ticket.

  21. Paul says:

    If Harris wins, she might pick Governor Bullock for some middle America cred.

  22. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    21. “Yep. Kamala or Beto.”

    Believe Kamala was the Democratic establishment’s first choice, She is close to tech and the Democratic power brokers in California. But her lack of charisma is hurting her candidacy.

    Yes, both Kamala and Beto warble leftist rhetoric. It is what they will actually do in office that matters. Right now tech is under fire from the far left, and the U.S. Congress. Are you hearing Governor Newsom or the Democratic California legislature joining the attack — they are nearly silent. They are not turning on one of their major funding sources. Follow the money, not the words coming out of the Democratic candidates mouths.

  23. Phil says:

    You got a lot more faith in Kamala and Beto governing anywhere close to the middle than I do. Truth is that the base isn’t going to let any Democrat even sniff the middle while in the WH…….there are no more moderate Democrats left in that Party. Biden comes closest, and you can see what they are doing to him.

    These days if you aren’t all in on remaking America you aren’t one of them.

  24. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    25. There is a difference between the left of the Democratic Party, and the hardcore socialism of Bernie Sanders and OAC.

    As example, it was well-know that Obama for all intense purposes was Google’s (and tech’s) lackey:

    https://theintercept.com/2016/04/22/googles-remarkably-close-relationship-with-the-obama-white-house-in-two-charts/

    Obama never seriously challenged tech’s tax avoidance overseas, or all the perks that got from the government. He never raised an issue about the shift of U.S. manufacturing to China and other countries. He was a corporate, cocktail liberal. He charmed the masses with his eloquent rhetoric, and in real life hobnobbed with his rich corporate donors. Bernie’s socialism is anathema to this crowd. The question is how can the Democratic establishment placate the far left; it may be impossible in 2020.

  25. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    25. “You got a lot more faith in Kamala and Beto governing anywhere close to the middle than I do”

    This is not about the “middle.” It is the corporate Democratic left vs. the socialist left. The corporate Democratic left could care squat about middle America. There focus is to protect the privileged position of “progressive corporate” America.

  26. Phil says:

    SD, I know what you are saying about a difference between the traditional corporate left of the Democratic Party and the hard core socialists. At one time there was a difference for sure. Your point about 2020 is something I agree with. It may indeed be impossible to separate the two. I’m just not sure if it’s because the socialists can’t be placated or if it is because the ENTIRE party is basically moved left ideologically. Probably both, but the result will be the same. Any Democratic President will be the most radical administration in American history with regard to how they actually govern.

  27. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    28. “Any Democratic President will be the most radical administration in American history with regard to how they actually govern.”

    Totally agree.

  28. jason says:

    LOL

    From InstapunditL

    Jake Tapper: Biden Conduct ‘Not Appropriate,’ Other Men Might Get Fired From Their Jobs For What He Did. In Biden’s defense, he doesn’t actually have a job.”

    and

    Tim Young:

    There are so many women suddenly coming out against Joe Biden that you’d think Trump had just nominated him to the Supreme Court.”

    BTW, does anyone else think maybe Biden is being sacrificed in order to attack Trump?

  29. NYCmike says:

    “BTW, does anyone else think maybe Biden is being sacrificed in order to attack Trump?”

    -Very scary, but I was just thinking that Biden is the perfect sacrificial lamb, as I don’t think he has the gut for the top job.

  30. lisab says:

    Hillary Clinton so far ahead in polls that she ‘doesn’t even think about’ Donald Trump anymore

  31. lisab says:

    Take your favorite Russian vodka, and some Kahlua, add a little flour, egg and sugar, and you get Russian Kahlusion cupcakes. Yummy.

  32. lisab says:

    “find someone who looks at you the way joe biden looks at an unattended 8 year old”

    joe is being pounded online

  33. lisab says:

    Brzezinski Sticks Up for Biden: ‘Extremely Affectionate, Extremely Flirtatious in a Completely Safe Way’

  34. phoenixrisen says:

    PPP, always good for a laugh.

  35. lisab says:

    Supreme Court rules man can be executed by lethal injection after claim it would cause ‘severe pain’…..after kidnapping, raping, and killing his victim.

  36. Bitterlaw says:

    I don’t understand the SCOTUS ruling. Roberts voted with the conservatives but Tina assured us he was a liberal. Could she have been wrong?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bW7Op86ox9g

  37. Bitterlaw says:

    The scum in that case was not opposed to being executed. He just wanted a less painful way out than lethal injection. All that time and money wasted on the case. Just shoot him.

  38. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    35. “‘Extremely Affectionate, Extremely Flirtatious in a Completely Safe Way”’

    I would find being referred to that way as offensive. Sounds pretty strange.

  39. Bitterlaw says:

    If it becomes clear that Biden has the best chance to beat Trump, they will support him.

  40. lisab says:

    i think that ship sailed …

    he was the best chance,

    beto and butt are up next

  41. jason says:

    “If it becomes clear that Biden has the best chance to beat Trump, they will support him.”

    Of course.

    The ends always justify the means.

  42. jason says:

    I have told my wife that I am “extremely flirtatious” as insurance policy for any potential future situations.

  43. jason says:

    Hmmm…

    Feinstein: Biden is a “tactile” person.

    I have told my wife I am a very flirtatious and tactile person.

    It might come in handy sometime, no pun intended.

  44. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    We need a new special council appointed; Trump has been accused of cheating at golf. Has he no shame.

    https://apnews.com/c0bf421bf00c4d6b842d3d6225dc10fb

  45. Wes says:

    Give me a black hood, an axe, and a chopping block, Bitter. I’ll save the state the time and expense of acquiring the chemicals for the lethal injection. Of course I can’t guarantee I would make things painless for such a scumbag.

  46. Bitterlaw says:

    Warden – The body has no arms and no legs and the skull was crushed. You were supposed to just chop off his head.

    Wes – The axe slipped.

    Warden – Ok.

  47. Messy says:

    Israeli poll aggregator: https://knessetjeremy.com/category/knesset/polls/ The election is in a couple of weeks.

  48. mnw says:

    34% of those attending the recent Trump rally in Grand Rapids were DEMs, according to the Trump campaign.

    They check people who request tickets against the voter registration lists, i.e., did the voter vote in a recent primary? If so, which one? Did the voter declare a party affiliation at some point?

    I thought that was interesting & surprising.

  49. jason says:

    Messy is expanding her horizons outside US fake news?

    I guess this is an improvement over “breaking fake news – Schiff verifies Steele Dossier”

    Maybe she took my advice and is trying to finish grade school.

    The difference between Messy and the other trolls is that education didn’t help them. Messy can still hope.

  50. jason says:

    What happened to spending more time with her family?

    “Baltimore Mayor Catherine Pugh is going on a leave of absence after becoming engulfed in a scandal about a series of children’s books she authored.

    The Baltimore Sun reported last month that while serving on the University of Maryland Medical System’s (UMMS) board of directors, Pugh arranged deals beginning in 2001 to sell 100,000 copies of her self-published “Healthy Holly” series to the medical system at a total cost of $500,000. There were no competitive bids for the deal, and Pugh resigned from the board last month.

    On Monday, the Sun reported that the health insurance giant Kaiser Permanente paid Pugh $114,000 for copies of her books from 2015 to 2018. In September 2017, the city’s spending board, which Pugh controls, awarded Kaiser a $48 million contract for insurance for city employees. Pugh has not said anything about a deal with Kaiser.

    Pugh initially called the investigation into her deal with the UMMS a “witch hunt,” but has refunded $100,000 to the medical system.

    “In hindsight, this arrangement with the University of Maryland Medical System was a regrettable mistake,” she said during a press conference Thursday.

    Pugh said the system then gave the books to day care programs and the city school system. As of last month, at least 8,700 books Pugh sold the medical system sat unread in a warehouse.

    Pugh’s office put out a statement Monday afternoon saying she would be taking time off for health reasons”

  51. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    jason
    With respect to Messy:
    (1) Her guy, Eric Swalwell(D-CA), has informed friends that he will announce for the 2020 Presidency next week. I bet that she cannot wait.(H/T: Politico)
    (2) Messy is still waiting for Pelosi’s plane to land in Brussels as she reported during the government shutdown.
    (3) If messy could vote in the Israeli elections, she would cast her ballot for the ultra-Left Party of Meretz.

  52. Bitterlaw says:

    Brexit does not seem to be going well. Discuss.

  53. Wes says:

    Mnw, MI has no party registration. People would have to self-identify to say they were Democrats. That being the case, I find the 34% statistic dubious.

  54. jason says:

    The problem with Brexit is that it is being scuttled by both the Euro hacks and those that think the deal to leave is too “pro-Europe”.

    There are not enough MPs left that can approve a deal to leave that includes some concessions to Europe.

    It will be a shame if the will of the voters is not respected, some in the UK want to borrow the US Dem meme that you just keep counting votes until you win, or just keep holding referendums until you win.

  55. jason says:

    “Beto is supported by the tech and major business wing of the Democratic Party. They do not want a socialist like Sanders, and believe Beto has charisma and the ability to prevent a far leftist candidate from winning the primary.”

    Beto IS a far leftist, any business who support him must have the Stockholm Syndrome.

  56. DW says:

    Once again, here is the alphabetical list of clowns:

    (i) indicates interested, and (r) indicates announced as running, or announced that they will announce:

    A: Stacey Abrams (i)
    B: Michael Bennet (i), Joe Biden (i), Cory Booker (r), Steve Bullock (i) , Pete Buttigieg (r)
    C: Julián Castro (r)
    D: John Delaney (r), Bill de Blasio (i)
    E:
    F:
    G: Tulsi Gabbard (r), Mike Gravel (r), Kirsten Gillibrand (r)
    H: Kamala Harris (r), John Hickenlooper (r)
    I: Jay Inslee (r)
    J:
    K: Amy Klobuchar (r)
    L:
    M: Terry McAuliffe (i), Wayne Messam (r), Seth Moulton (i)
    N:
    O: Beto O’Rourke (r)
    P:
    Q:
    R: Tim Ryan (i)
    S: Joseph Sanberg (i), Bernie Sanders (r), Eric Swalwell (r)
    T:
    U:
    V:
    W: Elizabeth Warren (r), Marianne Williamson (r)
    X:
    Y: Andrew Yang (r)
    Z:

  57. jason says:

    Mnw, MI has no party registration. People would have to self-identify to say they were Democrats. That being the case, I find the 34% statistic dubious.”

    No sure I understand your comment, wes. Even if there is no party registration, people will still identify as Rs, Ds, or Indies if you ask them.

    If you took a poll of attendees and 34% of the respondents said they were Dems, what is the problem?

    I might agree that 34% seems high, intuitively, but it has nothing to do with there being party registration or not.

  58. Wes says:

    My point is that without actual voter registration in the state, it’s impossible to definitively say Dems comprise 34% of attendees at Trump rallies, Jason. Personally I think the number is inflated. Most likely the Trump people randomly asked a few attendees their party affiliation and extrapolated the 34% statistic from that.

  59. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Highlight Clip – Jared Kushner with Laura Ingraham a few hours ago ‘In Florida More Ex-Felons Register as Republicans than Democrats’ Jared Kushner: One statistic that I found very pleasing is that, in Florida they passed a law that former felons can now vote. We’ve had more ex-felons register as Republicans than Democrats and I think they see the reforms… Laura Ingraham: Woah, woah… You’ve had more ex-felons register as Republicans than Democrats? Jared Kushner: That’s the data that I’ve seen. I think that will surprise a lot of people.

  60. Wes says:

    If more felons registered as Republicans than Democrats, Democrats would pull out all the stops to end felon voting.

  61. jason says:

    “My point is that without actual voter registration in the state, it’s impossible to definitively say Dems comprise 34% of attendees at Trump rallies, Jason.”

    True, but you can still say 34% of the attendees at the Trump rally polled said they were Dems.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the number was higher than expected, a lot of blue collar Dems in MI must have voted for Trump for him to win the state, still I agree 34% is too high.

    But even 20% would be good. That latest FH/Optimist poll showing Trump slightly ahead of Biden and Sanders and handily ahead of Beto in MI would indicate he has retained some of that blue collar support.

    The problem is he will have to hang on to all of it to win MI again.

  62. mnw says:

    “34% dubious”

    Really? Can’t tell which party’s primary they voted in, Wes?

    The Trump campaign said the 34% was NOT based on self-identification, but on VR records, fwiw.

  63. DW says:

    I don’t see Trump winning MI again. The margin was 10,704 votes in Michigan. You can fit that many in the trunk of any mid-sized car.

    The margin in WI was 22,748.

    In both of these states the difference was less than the number of votes Jill Stein received (51463 in MI, 31072 in WI). The only reason Stein received these votes is because the media assured them that Clinton could not possibly lose the election, so they were free to vote their hearts.

    If Trump is going to win re-election, he will need to do so without MI or WI.

  64. Wes says:

    Ugh!

    Tink just said “y’all.”

    I thought my ears were going to explode.

  65. jason says:

    Well, Gary Johnson got a lot more votes than Jill Stein, you might make the same argument that many of his voters figured Trump would lose anyway so why not vote for Gary.

    Johnson MI 172000
    Johnson WI 106000

    The truth is most of the Stein voters would never vote for Hillary and most of the Johnson voters would never vote for Trump.

  66. DW says:

    If Trump manages to hold onto ME_02, IA, OH, GA, NC, AZ and FL, which is by no means a given, that would put him at 260. To win the election he would need any one of the following:

    1) PA
    2) WI or MN (and hope all the electors stay faithful)
    3) MI
    4) NH and NV (and hope all the electors stay faithful)
    5) VA

    Option #4 may be just as valid as any of the others, given the narrow margins in 2016.

  67. jason says:

    If all the Gary Johnson libertarians and McMullin never Trumpers had voted for Trump he would have easily carried MN too.

    MN

    Hillary 1,367,000 46.44%
    Trump 1,323,000 44.93%
    Johnson 113,000 3.84%
    McMullin 53,000 1.80%
    Stein 36,000 1.26%

  68. jason says:

    Other states where Trump + Johnson+ McMullin beat Hillary + Stein

    NH
    ME
    NV
    NM

    CO would have been a tie.

  69. DW says:

    Johnson voters are much more a mixed multitude than Stein voters. Green party voters are all hard-core Marxists who would have voted for Hillary in the end, had they known how close the election was going to be. They voted for Stein to show Madam President Clinton how influential they are in the leftist movement.

    They were focused on the next kickoff before scoring the actual touchdown.

  70. DW says:

    However jason, you raise a good point with Johnson. One of the reasons I don’t hold out any hope that Trump will win is that there will be someone who wants to ‘save the GOP’ and run independent and siphon off enough votes in these key states to doom Trump. Maybe not as big as Ross Perot in 1992, but just enough to throw the election.

  71. jason says:

    MN was so close that you can make the argument enough McMullin and Johnson voters would have pulled him over had they not run. NH too.

    The others are iffier, especially NM where Johnson got almost 10%. Since Hillary got 48%, she would have won anyway.

  72. DW says:

    I expect Trump to make a major effort to pull in NV and NH.

  73. Chicon says:

    Jason bringing some solid info today. Must have had a solid breakfast.

  74. jason says:

    Green party voters are all hard-core Marxists who would have voted for Hillary in the end,”

    I don’t agree.

    Most are hard core environmentalists who think the Dems are just as corrupt as Republicans.

    They would have probably stayed home or voted for a socialist worker party or left the top of the ballot empty.

    I know a couple “green” voters. They think Obama was a war mongering corporate tool and Hillary is a an agent for Goldman Sachs. I kid you not.

  75. jason says:

    . Must have had a solid breakfast.”

    I can’t remember that far back.

    But lunch is about to be served, chicken gumbo with lots of sausage, corned beef brisket with sauerkraut braised in bacon fat with bacon chunks (not bits, puhhhleeese) and boiled potatoes. I hope I have room for the mixed salad with blue cheese dressing but if not you can’t have everything.

  76. DW says:

    I get that some Green Party voters are like that…but there would have been enough to vote for Hillary had they access to a crystal ball that showed the results as they actually happened.

  77. jason says:

    The greens are the Paulbots of the left.

    They don’t really want to vote for lesser of two evils as far as their interests go.

    They view themselves as idealists.

  78. jason says:

    I get that some Green Party voters are like that…but there would have been enough to vote for Hillary had they access to a crystal ball that showed the results as they actually happened”

    Certainly not enough to offset the portion of Gary Johnson voters with a crystal ball.

  79. Wes says:

    Johnson had a heterodox following ranging from the right to the left on the political spectrum. He was also far more critical of Trump than of Hillary. I’m not sure Trump would have attracted the lion’s share of Johnson’s voters.

  80. Chicon says:

    77 – TG just ran to the toilet.

  81. DW says:

    I continue to be amazed that neither party seems very interested in reforming their primary process. So many state GOP orgs allow Democrats to pick the GOP nominee. And the schedule seems designed to drag it out causing as much self-afflicted damage as possible.

    The Dem side is even worse, with the knowledge that the 2016 primary was completely rigged to ensure Sanders did not get the nomination. If everyone interested actually runs in 2020, the Dems would have an absurd 27 candidates vying for delegates.

  82. Phil says:

    So Trump wants to repeal Obamacare again and put off any plan replacement plan until AFTER the election.

    Having watched Democrats savage Republicans over the issue in two suburban districts here in Texas I can tell you is the most suicidal political move Trump could possibly make. Just hands the Democrats the WH.

    Well, at least this move removes any suspense from the 2020 election. All you can do is shake your head.

  83. Paul says:

    Healthcare will likely play very badly in house races. But I could see Trump somehow throwing house GOP under the bus so that he gets reelected while losing more house seats, and Dems picking up in the Senate. Makes little sense, but the cult of personality isn’t rational.

  84. dblaikie says:

    Sorry Phil but I have to disagree. Trump’s statement simply emphasizes the obvious there is no way a vote is going to take place on health care before the 2020 election because it is a political matter. Why would the dems in the House ever allow a vote before 2020 — unless it is akin to the new green deal in its sillness.

    However I would agree with you totally if Trump had said that a GOP PLAN would be revealed after 2020. Now that would be stupid! The GOP needs a plan that is serious and can be defended! If that happens (big if) then that would be good for 2020.

  85. dblaikie says:

    85 Your post makes little sense. The way for Healthcare to play “very badly” in house races is for the GOP and Trump to have no alternative to fight back with. Just to remind you it was the Legislative Branch which threw Trump under the bus over healthcare.

  86. jason says:

    77 – TG just ran to the toilet.”

    I hear he had to pay a plumber to remove the organic sugar clog. The organic maple syrup bonded with the fructose and glucose and sucrose like cement.

  87. jason says:

    Tgca should recycle his turds to the sugar industry.

  88. Wes says:

    Paul is not very smart.

  89. jason says:

    Paul is judging others on rationality?

    This is like Pol Pot giving a seminar on civility…

  90. jason says:

    He was also far more critical of Trump than of Hillary”

    Yep, Johnson did call Trump a fascist but he was very critical of Hillary too, it was his VP Weld that showed a marked preference for Hillary. Johnson’s campaign manager said Johnson cost Trump Colorado although I don’t see that in the numbers. MN, NH and ME are better examples.

    And of course, Jill Stein was on record as saying she would not sleep well at night if Hillary won and that Hillary was much more likely to start a nuclear war than Trump. Anyone who voted for her because they agreed were not voting for Hillary.

    In any case I hope Johnson doesn’t run again and that the Greens pick a strong candidate.

  91. NYCmike says:

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/45427/dahl-democratic-party-being-corbynized-ziva-dahl

    -“CG” making more sense every day…….Trump is no better than a Democrat.

  92. jason says:

    “Klobuchar Claims She Will Take on Pharma, Has Taken $400,000 From the Industry”

    What’s the problem, everyone knows its easier to make changes when you are an insider…

  93. Paul says:

    90: Wes just doesn’t like me because he’s homophobic.

  94. Corree says:

    Hey, NYC, I am not worried about anti-Semitism and hatred for Israel in the Democratic Party. They don’t really mean it, and besides, they are not attacking Jews like me, they are attacking other types of Jews.

    Did I tell you Trump is just like David Duke?

  95. jason says:

    Wes just doesn’t like me because he’s homophobic”

    Paul thinks people who abhor Marxism are homophobic.

    I would give some wes some points if he was an A-hole.

  96. NYCmike says:

    Yooooo

  97. Paul says:

    Trump’s odds for reelection go down by 2 cents while he talks to press. He could get reelected if he’d just be quiet.

  98. Wes says:

    I used to have a flaming gay roommate, Paul. Tink is bisexual. Naturally I must be homophobic. Only a homophobe would have a gay roommate and be involved with a woman who also likes women.

    You got me, man!

  99. NYCmike says:

    “He could get reelected if he’d just be quiet.”

    -Funny…..here is a loony Democrat (do I need to write “loony”?) telling a guy how to get re-elected, while still not accepting that the same guy was ever elected in the first place!

  100. Bitterlaw says:

    I saw a homeless guy sitting on the sidewalk outside a fast food restaurant. He asked me for change. I asked him if he wanted to eat inside. We went in and he ordered. I paid and gave him the change. I asked him his name. He said it is Wesley. I hope he turns his life around.

  101. Paul says:

    Wes,
    I’m just deflecting, and still recovering from my awkward flying gay fish day.

  102. Paul says:

    Bitterlaw:
    Very kind of you. Sometimes people just need a little kindness and to feel like they are human and worthy.

  103. NYCmike says:

    “Sometimes people just need a little kindness and to feel like they are human and worthy.”

    -Yet, you believe more in government to do these things, which shuts down shortly after 4 during the week and is closed on weekends and most holidays.

  104. Bitterlaw says:

    Why are the Democrat leaders so extreme? I know many Democrats who are pretty normal. They don’t freak over climate change or embrace open borders. They do think taxes should be higher to pay for better schools and aid to poor and elderly. They don’t want guns themselves but are not into seizing them.

  105. Big Joe says:

    Wow, Eric Holder is the guy that killed Nipsey Hussle. World just keeps getting stranger and stranger …

    Big Joe

  106. jason says:

    I guess Holder won’t be running for President.

    Didn’t he say he could shoot someone on the street in LA and he would get away with it?

  107. jason says:

    We have a bleeding heart A-hole?

  108. Tina says:

    Where are the jebots to front for Gaffe?

  109. jason says:

    Eric Holder claims the NRA did the shooting, he was only holding the gun.

  110. Proud Obamacon says:

    Holder can join Biden .. they cooked! eh Big Joe?

    #RESIST!

  111. jason says:

    Why are the Democrat leaders so extreme? I know many Democrats who are pretty normal. They don’t freak over climate change or embrace open borders. They do think taxes should be higher to pay for better schools and aid to poor and elderly. They don’t want guns themselves but are not into seizing them.”

    Zzzzzz….

    I don’t buy this baloney.

    Who is electing these “leaders”? And are the rank and file in Congress any less radical? If there were just a few, fine, but 90% at least of the Dem caucus are climate change alarmist, gun confiscators, soak the rich, open borders types.

    These “normal” Democrats are electing the moonbats, so the theory that they don’t really think like them rings hollow to me.

  112. jason says:

    They do think taxes should be higher to pay for better schools and aid to poor and elderly.”

    Ohhh, puhhleease tell me you don’t really believe that horsecrap.

    The Dems don’t invest in schools and the poor and elderly, they invest on pork to keep themselves in power.

    Let’s get real. The Dems don’t want good schools, they do everything they can to ensure bad schools remain bad and bad teachers stay employed.

    Republicans are the ones that support charter schools that allow students who actually want to get ahead to have an opportunity to do so.

    Anyone who really thinks the poor are being helped by handouts is a moron. The poor need economic opportunity to move out of poverty, and Democratic pork is not going to move them out of poverty.

    Democrats have a vested interest in keeping minorities voting Democratic. Anyone who denies this is a moron.

  113. jason says:

    Proud ObamaCON, one of Bitter’s “normal” Democrats I guess.

    So how are things going in your shining socialist paradise model for America, Venezuela?

  114. Proud Obamacon says:

    Jason with his usual drivel hoping that his Orange Hero can bring us back to the 1840s.. Sorry buddy! Your glory days of white domination are over. The people are woke, the countdown is on to Jan 20 2021.. the day America starts to heal!

    #NOT.MY.PRESIDENT!

  115. mnw says:

    I was honored today to receive an invitation to become a Founding Member of the 2019 Trump Coalition! They asked me to send $45 in honor of our 45th president.

    So I did.

    I guess they got my name from Hawley.

  116. Proud Obamacon says:

    House .. Senate .. WH .. Scotus – all will be ours on Jan 20, 2021.. Tick Tock yall!!!

    LOL

  117. Proud Obamacon says:

    Come on Jason, deport as many blacks to Liberia before the clock strikes midnight!

    TICK.TOCK!

  118. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Two more women have come forward with stories about uncomfortable encounters with Biden. Is not looking good for a possible Biden candidacy.

  119. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes says:

    Ugh!

    Tink just said “y’all.”

    I thought my ears were going to explode.

    Such anti-Southern bigotry is appalling. Wes should be ashamed.

  120. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    From NYT:

    “The list of women coming forward is growing. Caitlyn Caruso, a former college student and sexual assault survivor, said Mr. Biden rested his hand on her thigh — even as she squirmed in her seat to show her discomfort — and hugged her “just a little bit too long” at an event on sexual assault at the University of Nevada at Las Vegas. She was 19.

    Ms. Caruso, now 22, said she chalked up the encounter at the time to how men act, and did not say anything publicly. But she said it was particularly uncomfortable because she had just shared her own story of sexual assault and had expected Mr. Biden — an architect of the 1994 Violence Against Women Act — to understand the importance of physical boundaries.

    “It doesn’t even really cross your mind that such a person would dare perpetuate harm like that,” she said. “These are supposed to be people you can trust.”

    D. J. Hill, 59, a writer who recalled meeting Mr. Biden in 2012 at a fund-raising event in Minneapolis, said that when she and her husband, Robert, stepped up to take their photograph with the vice president, he put his hand on her shoulder and then started dropping it down her back, which made her “very uncomfortable.”

    Her husband, seeing the movement, put his hand on Mr. Biden’s shoulder and interrupted with a joke. Ms. Hill did not say anything at the time and acknowledged that she does not know what Mr. Biden’s intention was or whether he was aware of her discomfit.”

    Maybe Biden would not be so touchy feely if Anthony Weiner taught him how to use social media.

  121. Phil says:

    SD, the far leftists are indeed out to get Biden.

    I don’t know if they will succeed. After all, Joe still has a D by his name and that offers him a certain amount of protection. Although a solid majority of Democrats would prefer a more radical lefty than Joe as the nominee he’s in every poll a winner vs Trump and there may be enough Dems who want to keep him around for that reason.

    I still think the nominee is Harris or Beto regardless of what Biden does.

  122. Bitterlaw says:

    I still think the nominee is Harris or Beto regardless of what Biden does.

    Wes trashing Southern accents. Phil backing away from his guarantee that only Harris will be nominated because she is a woman AND black. Where is the HHR we all knew?

  123. mnw says:

    So we’re up to 4 on Biden, & the MSM are no longer trying to suppress the story, as CNN & MSNBC did, for the first 48 hours.

    I just intuit* that this drip, drip, drip isn’t survivable.

    *(as opposed to Inuit– they like to rub noses just like Joe, btw))

  124. Tina says:

    You cannot ignore Biden’s touching and sniffing.

    It is bad enough with the women. If he did that to me, I would take him out quickly, bad leg and all.

    It is worse with the kids. The same type of behavior.

  125. Tina says:

    Harris or beta make look like the best odds,

    Beta make prollly chooses the gay mayor as veep.

    However, if Biden is doa, then look for Mayor ?Bloomberg’s to get in,

  126. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    128. When Biden is on paw patrol, he is an equal opportunity fondler, as in the picture of the law enforcement officer I posted before:

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/pj-gladnick/2015/02/18/msm-ignored-even-creepier-joe-biden-moment

    Earlier in his life it might be considered odd behavior, but was overlooked; today it is considered creepy and unacceptable. The problem with running a very old candidate is he/she may not conform to contemporary social norms.

  127. Tgca says:

    Chicago elects AA lesbian as mayor. Really? WTF! All the lesbians are taking over. This is so wrong. I will never visit that city again. What is America coming to too I ask? I could understand if a cute gay mayor was elected but a lesbian? Argh! Shame!

  128. Bitterlaw says:

    I am going to Chicago in less than 2 weeks. Don’t have much planned except for seeing Hamilton. Maybe we will see lesbians running wild through the streets.

  129. lisab says:

    lesbians are notoriously tight with money

    not sure how that will play in chicago

  130. lisab says:

    safe to say

    lori lightfoot is not a femme

    on a scale of 1 to 10, where 1 is yay it’s college and 10 is i am going to change the oil in my ford f150

    she is more like an 11

  131. CG says:

    While Lori Lightfoot is certainly no conservative, I am very happy that she beat the detestable Toni Preckwinkle, the Cook County Board President and Chairman of Cook County Democrats.

    FWIW, Preckwinkle definitely ran to Lightfoot’s left and tried to portray her as basically a Republican. Lightfoot, while liberal, does not seem to be someone who really cares that much about partisan politics. There aren’t many Trump supporters in Chicago, but those that exist certainly preferred Lightfoot. Then again, she won just about every group imaginable today.

    She was the “outsider” and won huge. 76-24, sweeping all 50 Wards in the City. A total blowout.

  132. CG says:

    Full truth correction-

    74-26

  133. ReadyFirst says:

    GOP backed SC Judge in WI barely hanging on, with almost all the vote counted. This win would keep a conservative majority. Regardless, the vote totals seem to be a big turnaround in favor of Reps from last years midterms. Seems good news for 2020.
    https://www.wisn.com/article/april-2-spring-general-election-results/26990889

  134. Tgca says:

    MAGA!
    MAGA!!
    MAAAAAAGAAAAAAAA!!!

  135. jason says:

    Come on Jason, deport as many blacks to Liberia before the clock strikes midnight!”

    I love the sweet smell of megapoints in the morning….

  136. jason says:

    MAGA!
    MAGA!!
    MAAAAAAGAAAAAAAA!!!”

    Sugar rush…..

  137. jason says:

    The Dems will have to fine 6k votes in Milwaukee….should be easy.

  138. jason says:

    find…

  139. jason says:

    “Your glory days of white domination are over”

    I will explain it to my llamas.

    They will want to know if it means there will be less food for them.

    They will also probably spit in Proud ObamaCON’s general direction.

  140. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason is white? Like really white or just not minority white?

  141. lisab says:

    there are so many women coming out against joe biden this morning

    that for a minute i thought trump must have nominated him to the supreme court

  142. Wes says:

    Barring a major tabulation error, Hagedorn would seem to have a small but insurmountable lead in WI-SC.

    This may be the result of the politicization of the courts by the Dems—a dubious strategy that will inevitably force Republicans to fight the Devil with a conflagration by also heavily targeting judicial races.

  143. lisab says:

    Leftist with Mohawk Who Attacked Elderly Trump Supporter and Chased Him Out of Starbucks FIRED From Her Job

    “I yelled at him. Called the entire Starbucks to order and yelled at him more about how it is not ok to hate brown people,” Parker said. “He threatened to call the cops. I left after yelling at him some more.”

    Parker the Fascist wasn’t done yet, though — she said she went back into Starbucks to yell at the peaceful elderly man some more and she wanted to find out who he was and where his kids lived.

    Parker says she followed the man to the cash register and “called him more names.” She bragged about calling him a “wimp” then “chased him out of Starbucks yelling at him to get the fk out” of her town.

    Parker Mankey’s employer, Gryphon Strings in Palo Alto, California posted a note on their Facebook earlier Tuesday letting people know they were aware of an incident involving one of their employees.

    A few hours later, Gryphon Strings announced they terminated Parker Mankay. “The employee in question has been terminated,” the Facebook post said. “Gryphon does not believe anyone should be harassed or subject to hate speech no matter their beliefs.”

  144. lisab says:

    thought this was funny … tell it to russians
    ——————————

    Study: Physically Weak Men More Likely To Be Socialists

    Surprise, surprise. Men who are physically weak are more likely to favor socialist policies.

    An academic study from researchers at Brunel University London assessed 171 men, looking at their height, weight, overall physical strength and bicep circumference, along with their views on redistribution of wealth and income inequality. The study, published in the Evolution and Human Behavior journal, ?found that weaker men were more likely to favor socialist policies than stronger men.

  145. lisab says:

    millenial drops support for socialism after finding out how hard it is to get avacado toast in venezuela 🙂

  146. lisab says:

    “Contractually all I have to do is not fake a hate crime.” Tracey Morgan trashes Jussie Smollett while discussing his new role on Empire.

  147. mnw says:

    RE: GOP forced into “heavily targeting judicial races”

    Along those lines…

    From what I’ve read, when it comes to “vote harvesting” in 2020, we’re NOT going to have another war like 2018, i.e., where one side showed up & the other didn’t, either. I think that mistake cost at least 4-5 House seats.

  148. jason says:

    Jason is white? Like really white or just not minority white?”

    Well, I am between a rock and a hard place.

    According to Corey, white Hispanics are not really Hispanics, you have to be brown to be Hispanic. I have not yet seem him render an opinion of black Hispanics, not sure if they count either. And of course a lot of Central and South American Hispanics are of Amerindian descent, they are waiting for Corey to define them too.

    On the other hand, it has been said here that anyone from Latin America is not part of Western Civilization, so there is that too.

    I am thinking of writing in non-brown, non-Western Civ faux Hispanic on the census form.

  149. jason says:

    Hagedorn would seem to have a small but insurmountable lead in WI-SC.”

    Maybe, I hope you are right.

    6k would certainly not have saved Scott or DeSantis in FL.

  150. jason says:

    Shhhhhh, Chris.

    Chris Matthews warns Dems that radical positions might not play well in the general election.

    Don’t listen to him. Listen to Proud ObamaCON, all Americans want to be like Venezuela.

  151. Wes says:

    What happened in Florida, Jason, was that Republicans weren’t expecting Dems to blatantly try to steal the elections by openly manufacturing tens of thousands of votes. I doubt Dems would even attempt to try the same thing in Wisconsin since although Dems hold the governorship, Republicans hold all the judicial levers and seem poised to fight mightily to prevent a second attempt at what Dems tried in Florida.

  152. jason says:

    My thoughts on Biden…

    If he gets pushed out, its good news for Trump

    But if it means a socialist moonbat wins anyway, it’s bad news for the rest of us.

    Biden is a flaming liberal, but he is better than Harris, Beto, Sanders or the other moonbats.

    If Biden does not run, I hope Sanders gets the nomination.

    Against Sanders, I think Trump wins 40 states.

  153. Wes says:

    An irony about Sanders:

    The Socialist is leading the money chase with $28 million in his campaign coffers.

  154. jason says:

    “..that Republicans weren’t expecting Dems to blatantly try to steal the elections by openly manufacturing tens of thousands of votes.”

    I certainly don’t understand why they weren’t expecting that.

    Is the SOS in WI an R?

  155. jason says:

    The Socialist is leading the money chase with $28 million in his campaign coffers”

    Hmmm.. I guess he won’t have to sell his summer home to pay for the campaign..

    “Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is the proud new owner of a summer home in the Champlain Islands, Seven Days has confirmed.

    The Burlington resident plopped down nearly $600,000 on a lakefront camp in North Hero.

    Sanders’ new crib has four bedrooms and 500 feet of Lake Champlain beachfront on the east side of the island — facing Vermont, not New York. The Bern will keep his home in Burlington and use the new camp seasonally”

  156. Phil says:

    Democrats on Judiciary Committee vote to subpoena Mueller Report.

    Yawn

  157. jason says:

    I need to ask Amos Stoltzfuss what he thinks about a $600k “camp”….

  158. jason says:

    I bet $1000 the answer will be “the English are crazy”

  159. Wes says:

    The WISOS is a Dem—Doug LaFiollette, ironically the scion of a largely GOP family in the state. He was, however, SOS in 2011 and played it straight in that year’s judicial election.

  160. CG says:

    The SOS of WI seems to have no authority over elections in the state but for anyone wondering, the person who has held that office (save for one term) since 1974 is Democrat Robert La Follette, the scion of the Progressive movement in the Republican Party in the early part of the 20th Century

  161. Wes says:

    Usually Dems try to manufacture only a handful of votes, Jason. See WA-Gov, 2004. For them to try to blatantly create 60,000 votes was unprecedented. That’s probably why Republicans were initially caught flat footed. The sheer scale of the attempted electoral theft was unprecedented. Also, they probably didn’t want to trigger having the FLSC intervene and hand the elections to Nelson and Gillum outright.

  162. Wes says:

    Wrong LaFollette, Corey. Robert LaFollette was the name of two GOP Senators from Wisconsin. Doug LaFollette is the current WISOS.

  163. CG says:

    Sure thing.

  164. CG says:

    After 2018, all statewide executive offices in WI are now held by Democrats. It would be close to impossible for Trump to carry in the state in 2020. His picking a fight with Harley Davidson and the botched Foxconn deal really hurt his party.

  165. CG says:

    Jared Kushner is working hard to bring more immigrants to the United States.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/03/jared-kushner-expand-legal-immigration-1249950

  166. Dylan says:

    Wes—has there been an actual post-mortem in Florida after this last election to determine the scale of the attempted vote fraud the way there was a post-mortem in 2000 after Bush v. Gore?

    I will say ( and have said) that in 2020, the GOP has got to have a nationalized anti-fraud campaign ready to spring into action cause we ain’t seen nothing yet.

  167. jason says:

    It would be close to impossible for Trump to carry in the state in 2020.”

    Corey is moving the goalposts.

    In 2016 he said it WAS impossible for Trump to carry WI.

    Now its “close to impossible”.

    But maybe he means carry an AR-15.

  168. jason says:

    Usually Dems try to manufacture only a handful of votes, Jason. See WA-Gov, 2004. For them to try to blatantly create 60,000 votes was unprecedented.”

    I think they are expanding their horizons, wes.

    Look at GA…. that was 55k and the loser is still claiming she “won”.

  169. CG says:

    I probably merely said it was unlikely he would carry Wisconsin in 2016. Very few people believed he would. His standing there is worse now, perhaps more than any state, and the Democrat nominee will not ignore the state. They are even having their convention there.

  170. NYCmike says:

    McCain and Romney had no chance in WI.

    Trump wins it in 2016.

    2018 was a tough election, where Republicans lost offices. (Personally, I compare this to DeBlasio taking over after 20 years of competent rule in NYC with Rudy and Bloomie – people, mainly Democrats, just simply don’t know how to react to proposed policies being put in place and succeeding!).

    That was Trump’s fault, who wasn’t on the ballot.

  171. NYCmike says:

    ““Contractually all I have to do is not fake a hate crime.” Tracey Morgan trashes Jussie Smollett while discussing his new role on Empire.”

    -Tracey Morgan is funny.

  172. NYCmike says:

    https://spectator.us/democrats-2020-biden-hugging/

    -I want them to eat themselves so that a Republican (TrumpPence) remain in the White House.

    Stalwart Illinois conservative Republican “CG” wants Trump to lose……BUT BUT BUT doesn’t want the Democratic candidate to win.

  173. lisab says:

    Corey says:

    Trump continues to have no chance to win the general election. None.

  174. lisab says:

    Corey says:

    As of today, I think Trump takes AL, AR, ID, KS, KY, LA, MS, MT, NE (statewide), ND, OK, SC, SD, TN, TX, WV, and WY.

    That’s it. 17 states. May even wind up less. I am not going to do the math.

    Ok, I did the math 401-136. Maybe McMullin takes Utah and holds Hillary under 400.

  175. jason says:

    probably merely said it was unlikely he would carry Wisconsin in 2016.”

    LOL

    Unlikely?

    Considering you predicted Trump would only win 17 states and lose OH, IA, NC, FL, AZ and maybe UT.. unlikely my ass.

  176. NYCmike says:

    I guess I should remain happy that “CG” remains so pessimistic…….it worked wonderfully for Republicans in 2016.

  177. jason says:

    So he predicted Trump would lose GA, but now he claims he only said it was “unlikely” he would lose WI.

    Lies so much he just can’t keep them all straight.

  178. NYCmike says:

    “They are even having their convention there.”

    -Depending upon what types of policies they are pushing at that time, this may be a positive for Republicans and Trump to really highlight what the Democratic Party wants to do with our economy and foreign policy.

  179. jason says:

    Corey was only what, 168 EVs short of what Trump actually got?

    His prediction was not even HALF of what Trump actually got, but he now claims he thought it was only “unlikely” Trump would carry WI.

  180. jason says:

    Corey says:

    Trump continues to have no chance to win the general election. None.”

    Right, NONE.

    But according to the 2019 Corey, he did have some chance of carrying WI.

  181. jason says:

    Corey lost a 100-1 bet on Hillary, but no, he didn’t think it was impossible for Trump to win WI.

  182. jason says:

    Over at Kos they don’t think the Dem will prevail in WI…and they are not happy.

    “If Hagedorn’s lead holds, he will flip a seat left open by retiring liberal Justice Shirley Abrahamson and give conservatives a 5-2 majority on the bench. While conservatives will have to play defense a year from now, when conservative Dan Kelly is up for election, Hagedorn’s win ensures they’ll retain their majority heading into the next round of redistricting. And that in turn almost certainly means the Wisconsin Supreme Court won’t act as a check on the extreme gerrymanders that Republicans have perpetrated for years.”

  183. jason says:

    Over at Kos, they are attributing Hagedorn’s win to a last minute blitz in rural areas tying him to Trump.

    According to Kos, the Dem turnout was good for an off year election, but the GOP turnout was massive.

    FWIW.

  184. NYCmike says:

    “Over at Kos, they are attributing Hagedorn’s win to a last minute blitz in rural areas tying him to Trump.”

    -A little “boom” just went off in “CG”‘s cranium.

    Forget about Robbie, I think he re-located to Pogo Loco for good!

  185. CG says:

    My final predictions are all I can be judged on. I got some states wrong on the Presidential race but did great on the Congressional level.

    The people who completely blew their predictions on the 2018 midterms have absolutely no place to talk on any of this. I nailed those too.

    Whatever happens in 2020 at the Presidential level, I think I will be able to call it quite accurately when the time comes.

  186. CG says:

    As everyone knows, the weekend of the Access Hollywood tape had everyone revising their predictions because it looked far worse for Trump at the time. Of course, nobody will bother to post the full link to those days (I was mostly focused on watching the Cubs in the NLDS that weekend)because everyone will see what they were saying as well.

  187. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “What the “back to nature” green movement does not comprehend is that cannibalism is a important survival mechanism in nature. Its always interesting to take someone from an urban environment into wild an show them how nature works. It ain’t a Disney movie.

    “A jaguar ate her cub — the world’s first jaguar to be born via artificial insemination — just days after its birth.

    A team of veterinarians at the environmental organization Mata Ciliar in Jundiaí, Sao Paulo state, Brazil, hailed the birth as a scientific breakthrough for the conservation of the species.

    The majestic felines are an endangered species, with rapidly diminishing numbers surviving in limited Amazonian territory, where 90 percent of the animals are found.

    But the unexpected death of the baby, while gruesome, is not uncommon, “both in captivity and in nature, especially in the case of carnivores,” scientists said.”

  188. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    191. “Whatever happens in 2020 at the Presidential level, I think I will be able to call it quite accurately when the time comes.”

    Your a legend in your own mind. Election predictions are educated guesses, nothing more or less. For anyone one person to claim their’s are consistently accurate is nonsense. Lisab posted a lot of your inaccurate predictions for 2016. Even the political pundits have a mixed record. No one has a crystal ball.

  189. CG says:

    I have a centralized location that has all my predictions from the 2006 cycle until the present on every Gubernatorial, U.S. Senate, and Congressional race, (plus all the states at the Presidential level) and I have done very, very well.

    We all need something to brag about in life.

  190. CG says:

    Plus, as early as 2011, I predicted specifically the Chicago Cubs would win the World Series in 2016.

  191. janz says:

    I wonder how much dem fatigue is out there?

    Everyday it’s the same wailing coming from the House dems, MSM puppets, and punditry on the left. With so many serious issues facing this country their sights are only glued to pinning something, anything, on Trump. Their current obsession of picking through the bones of the Mueller report, throwing scurrilous insinuations @ Barr, threatening him with subpoenas – it’s just too much, IMO. I’m genuinely just finding them all obnoxious and unworthy of holding any public office.

    I wonder how many people – R’s, fed-up dems and independents – feel the same distaste for anyone representing the D party.

  192. CG says:

    As a Republican, I feel distaste towards many people in both parties.

    The American people certainly deserve to see the entire Mueller Report though. They can redact anything related to classified national security matters and release the rest. Anybody trying to fight that wants to hide something. That is the overwhelming viewpoint throughout the country, including among Republicans.

  193. lisab says:

    i got some states wrong on the presidential race
    ———-

    (final prediction)

    corey says:

    clinton: 341
    trump: 197

  194. CG says:

    Yes, that was my final prediction for the EC.

  195. CG says:

    I thought Lightfoot was going to win big yesterday in Chicago too but I never would have predicted 74-26 or a 50 Ward sweep.

    In all seriousness, at the time that Rahm Emanuel announced he was leaving and that it was clear there would be a wide open field (it would have been extremely competitive had he sought another term too) for Mayor, the concept that the eventual winner would do so by virtue of winning all 50 Wards (white ethnic, lakefront liberal, African-American, Hispanic, everything)would probably seem less likely than a Presidential candidate sweeping all 50 states.

  196. lisab says:

    Yes, that was my final prediction for the EC.
    ———————————————-

    and was that close?

  197. lisab says:

    Mayor Buttigieg: It’s Hard to Look at Trump’s Actions and Think He Believes in God
    —————————————–

    he’s a billionaire … and has a model wife 30 years his junior

    i think he probably believes in god 🙂

  198. CG says:

    I’ll do better next time. I will be able to do what I do for the Congressional races, where my record is stellar, and be more dispassionate about it.

    What was your final prediction in 2016?

  199. lisab says:

    now this is a half-truth coreyesque statement if there ever was one
    ———————————

    “I’m reluctant to comment on another person’s faith, but I would say it is hard to look at this president’s actions and believe that they’re the actions of somebody who believes in God,” Buttigieg said.

  200. CG says:

    Mayor Pete should hold off on trying to get in Trump’s head like that and simply focus on the thing Trump has actually said such as, “I have never felt I have needed to be forgiven for anything..”

    He’s wrong to imply that Trump is an atheist, just like all the people on the right, including those who did so on this comment section were wrong to suggest that Obama was secretly an atheist or secretly a Muslim.

  201. lisab says:

    I’ll do better next time.
    ——————————

    well …

    compared to the others on hhr who made predictions, how did your prediction stack up?

    were you among the best in your mind?

  202. CG says:

    It’s more legitimately up in the air whether or not Bernie Sanders believes in G-d (he’s given varying answers) so Mayor Pete may want to be careful of offending a lot of people in his party.

    Bill Maher will certainly be pissed that he is suggesting that being a non-believer is a bad thing.

  203. lisab says:

    He’s wrong to imply that Trump is an atheist,
    ———————————————-

    would it be wrong to compare him to … oh, i don’t a person like …

    HITLER

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cphNpqKpKc4

  204. CG says:

    In 2016 I was not among the best for the Presidential race (nor were those who insisted that Trump would easily win the popular vote), but on everything that cycle, I did great. My House results, for all 435 races, were better than any professional I found.

    In writing about the Presidential race on my blog that year, I always allowed that perhaps I just did not know what I was talking about with it or I was too personally biased against Trump not to see a shock result, but that it could happen, especially because Hillary proved to be such a horrifically inept candidate.

    But let’s be clear. Just about everyone here, except the Trump die-hards, who were also insisting he would win a clear popular vote majority (and who were the same people who said the GOP would pick up seats in 2018 or have extremely minimal losses)was under the impression Trump would lose to Hillary.

  205. janz says:

    #198. Barr said he would release what he legally could, in 2 weeks time. All the noise about “hiding” info from the public is deliberately stirring unwarranted suspicions in order to muddy the Mueller findings that cleared Trump of collusion.

    When it comes to the obstruction charges, Mueller was able to obstruct a clean exoneration by inserting innuendos in the substance of his report, and then throwing the “bottom line” onto Barr for him to make the final ruling regarding this piece of the report. One lawyer’s interpretation of Mueller’s vagueness of obstruction was that this was done when a prosecutor lost his case, delivering his report without exoneration of the accused — in other words screwing the defendant of a total victory.

  206. CG says:

    There are legitimate ways to show how Trump has things in common with Hitler and legitimate ways to show that he does not.

    That would be more fair game than trying to gage someone’s secret religious beliefs.

    But Bob Mueller is very much like Hitler though, right? That went basically unchallenged on here for two years.

  207. CG says:

    211. Release the report janz. You have to agree, right?

  208. lisab says:

    In 2016 I was not among the best for the Presidential race
    ————————————–

    were you about average?

  209. lisab says:

    First jaguar born by artificial insemination eaten by mom…

  210. CG says:

    Plus, “bunu” some insisted loved Hitler and “Hitlery” Clinton was Hitler. I guess people can have selected outrage.

  211. lisab says:

    Plus, “bunu” some insisted loved Hitler and “Hitlery” Clinton was Hitler.
    ———————————-

    isn’t that whataboutism?

    shouldn’t you be concerned about your own behavior?

  212. CG says:

    No, because I have given my reasons why Trumpism has some similarities to the populist and rhetorical tactics used by Hitler and other “strong-men” throughout history and I have also been clear how the situations are very, very different and how a Hitler-like figure could not succeed in America. But Trump is an utterly repulsive figure and I am not going to shy away from that. He may not be Hitler but I am also not going to turn the other cheek for David Duke-Lite.

    Since you did not vote for him either lisa and have said you are very unlikely to do so in the future, you must share this belief to some extent.

  213. lisab says:

    so you think it is fine to compare with hitler

    for you, that is?

  214. lisab says:

    and you did not answer … were you about average then in 2016?

  215. CG says:

    I think anybody of any ideology who ever attempts to lead people around the world should be compared and contrasted to Hitler (and others) as to best realize the true meaning of “Never Again.”

    And let’s be clear. There was certainly one person at least on here who was far more willing than I to specifically label Trump a “fascist” during the 2016 campaign, and who now posts here as one of his biggest defenders.

    Either the “fascist” part was intentional b.s. at the time from this poster, or he just no longer cares.

  216. CG says:

    I would say my 2016 Presidential prediction would be average, except for Ohio. That was the one state that I was too stubborn on. Other than that, I would have been at about the same prediction level as most others. I wanted to be predict the worst possible realistic defeat for Trump.

    Now again, what was your specific 2016 prediction? Talking about the general election. We all know you were certain Rand Paul was going to be GOP nominee before that.

  217. lisab says:

    And let’s be clear. There was certainly one person at least on here who was far more willing than I to specifically label Trump a “fascist”
    ———————————–

    so that makes it ok?

  218. CG says:

    Not ok for them if they were just lying about it at the time just to sound “tough” or believed it then and just no longer care. I’m not sure which would be worse.

    I never directly said Trump was a fascist as we know the term in our country. I do believe that he might be one if he were around at another time or place or if he could get away with it. I think he unhealthily admires fascist strong-men.

  219. NYCmike says:

    http://davidwissing.com/?m=201610&paged=2

    From October 2016, shortly after the tapes released and they had the debate.

    PRICELESS!

  220. NYCmike says:

    I’ll give kudos to janz, as she was there early, and with her trademark patience and thoughtfulness:

    • janz says:
    October 8, 2016 at 12:28 pm
    Many choices are neither easy nor clear-cut. The major candidates chosen in the primaries exemplifies such choices. The following commentary, though, gives a rational, unemotional analysis of what voters have to wade through in making such a choice: Trump’s Dirty Talk Versus Hillary’s Corruption.
    The closing paragraphs, IMO, say it all:
    “I am absolutely not defending what Trump said eleven years ago, but if bragging about conquests with women were a disqualifier, at least Kennedy and Clinton would never have been president. Hillary should be declared unfit because she lies continuously, committed perjury, has taken kickbacks throughout her public life, tried to destroy women and any other people who got in her way, violated multiple security laws and other laws, and left Americans to die. Other people have been dispensable throughout Hillary’s and Bill’s lives. Basically, everything the Clintons have done is to increase the power and wealth for themselves. They certainly have little thought for the rest of us.
    I have never seen a media so in the tank. The media show every day their bias by what they report, how they report, and especially what they choose not to report. Our freedoms are in danger, and since they have no actual accomplishments to tout for their chosen candidate, they have to destroy the other. They also sought to destroy Bush, Palin, McCain, and Romney, so they have been at the personal destruction game for a long time.”

  221. NYCmike says:

    I will also pat myself on the back for my patience and long-term thinking:

    • NYCmike says:
    October 10, 2016 at 7:11 am
    Thanks to my wife, since she is the one who made me watch the SNL clips, I will definitely vote FOR Trump.
    4 years of watching Alec Baldwin play that character will be well worth it! Laughter extends your life, medically proven fact. I may live as long as Walt after the first term is up.

    • NYCmike says:
    October 10, 2016 at 7:11 am
    SNL could not find an actress (or actor) to lie as convincingly as the real Hillary.

  222. CG says:

    Are we equating that bragging about grabbing someone’s genitals unsuspectedly is the same thing as a conquest?

    We have had hornball candidates before and perhaps even a former President who was a criminal in that regard, but none of them or nobody else who ever ran for office bragged whether simply “joking” or not about having committed sexual assault on others

  223. NYCmike says:

    Might as well get this chump out of the way early:

    • Corey says:
    October 10, 2016 at 11:34 am
    It’s definitely been an interesting few days. Sad for the country though.
    I maintain that Trump will lose by a bigger margin than anyone else is now willing to predict.

    • Corey says:
    October 10, 2016 at 12:16 pm
    The new NBC poll is making my months- long prediction of 52-38 look pretty possible.

  224. NYCmike says:

    Many comments by a poster named “John Falco” were very astute…..of course, MD, Robbie and Corey belittled him.

  225. CG says:

    janz greatest hits from that campaign would also have to include

    -anybody who does not vote for Trump is in league with the Mullahs and the desposts of the world
    – anybody who does not support Trump would have been anti-American Revolution and hated the Founding Fathers
    – something about “the Bilderbergers of the world”

    I was still trying to figure out that last one but a couple months ago she also linked to the Unz Report which is a Holocaust denying publication which upon searching also seemed to talk a lot about “Bilderbergers” and “international conspiracies.”

  226. NYCmike says:

    MORE good stuff from me:

    • NYCmike says:
    October 10, 2016 at 9:19 am
    The fact that Trump did not mention how ugly Raddatz is shows how disciplined he can be.

  227. lisab says:

    Not ok for them …
    ——————————–

    but ok for you … gotcha … whataboutism at its finest!

  228. CG says:

    I was basically right on October 10.

    It’s too bad for Hillary that the Access Hollywood tapes were not sat on longer.

    They were released and I suppose it was quite a complete coincidence that American hating terrorist Julian Assange immediately released a bunch of her emails.

  229. NYCmike says:

    #231 – notice that I posted a complete comment, along with the link to the actual thread, so that people can see the context within which a comment was made.

    “CG” doesn’t do that.

  230. NYCmike says:

    Mr. Vito gave me a “YESSSSSSS!” for this one:

    • Todd McCain says:
    October 10, 2016 at 7:23 am
    Pence isn’t leaving the ticket…..stop.

    • NYCmike says:
    October 10, 2016 at 7:40 am
    “Pence isn’t leaving the ticket…..stop.”
    -Walt,
    This was for you. Todd wanted to bring you back to the telegraph days.

  231. CG says:

    You linked to a page of archived threads, not a specific thread.

    It’s better than nothing but what should be done when you cut and paste directly from the thread is to leave a specific hyperlink to the thread.

  232. lisab says:

    you better be careful nyc

    corey may compare you to hitler!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cphNpqKpKc4

    (it’s ok if he does it … at least according to him)

  233. NYCmike says:

    “I was basically right on October 10.”

    -basically right = wrong.

  234. CG says:

    There would be no reason to compare or contrast NYC to Hitler since like bunu and 99.9 percent of everyone else on a blog, he is a “nobody.”

    Certainly not somebody vying to be leader of the free world.

  235. NYCmike says:

    “You linked to a page of archived threads, not a specific thread.”

    -I pulled from different threads.

    The date stamp should help you figure it out……..maybe……

  236. CG says:

    I have compared and contrasted NYC to the fictional character of Fredo Corleone though because I think it is more valid.

  237. NYCmike says:

    These are great!

    AuthorLMendez says:
    October 10, 2016 at 8:14 am
    Hillary won the 2nd debate.

    • AuthorLMendez says:
    October 10, 2016 at 8:20 am
    “I am happy someone finally took the fight to the Clintons directly face to face.”
    Get your little temper tantrum out, it only cost you the SCOTUS

  238. lisab says:

    he is a “nobody.”
    —————————

    so now you …

    are determining who is somebody?!!!!

    you?!!!

    mmmmmmmkayyyyyyy

  239. CG says:

    Here’s an example NYC… I just randomly picked any comment..

    117. Wes says:

    October 16, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    All right. The Saints cheerleaders seriously need implants. The NFL shouldn’t hire a bunch of LisaBs to rally the crowd.

    http://davidwissing.com/?p=24415#comments

  240. NYCmike says:

    “I have compared and contrasted NYC to the fictional character of Fredo Corleone though because I think it is more valid.”

    -And a good hearty laugh was had by all!

    Still waiting for “CG” to take the plunge and be responsible for his own business and for the people that work for him……….

  241. NYCmike says:

    It was good to point out Author’s nonsense, and my take on him from many years earlier:

    • NYCmike says:
    October 10, 2016 at 8:59 am
    Now you see why it was imperative that Author’s constant trips to Disney World were highlighted.
    He is delusional, and lives in a fantasy world, where Hillary’s motherly tone (similar to Obama’s soft-spoken, empathetic timber) is soothing to his fragile ego.

  242. CG says:

    Are you responsible or is it your brothers? I could be working for my uncle if I wanted to in the company he and my grandfather started as well.

    When you take the plunge and can get hired to a job in which your bosses are not your relatives, we can have a further comparison.

  243. NYCmike says:

    In this exchange, we see Charles, as Robbie also does, blurting out information without verifying it, and Mr. Vito promptly smacking him down:

    • Charles says:
    October 10, 2016 at 1:22 am
    4 sources confirming Pence is leaving the ticket.

    • Mr.Vito says:
    October 10, 2016 at 1:31 am
    Mike Pence
    Mike Pence? @mike_pence
    Congrats to my running mate @realDonaldTrump on a big debate win! Proud to stand with you as we #MAGA

  244. mnw says:

    welcome to the trollbooth

    maybe it can drive so many posters away, HHR will get even fewer hits than his trollblog.

  245. NYCmike says:

    “When you take the plunge and can get hired to a job in which your bosses are not your relatives, we can have a further comparison.”

    -I have had several other jobs. When I lived in San Francisco, both places I worked for asked me to go into management. I took the job with the restaurant, going from a waiter to an assistant manager to the manager of a restaurant that grossed over $2.5 million a year. I was held in high regard when I left their services to come home. I held them in high regard as well, as the owner was a wonderful person.

    Working for others has never been an issue. Hopefully, if things continue as we hope, the property we bought 4 years ago may get bought out in the next couple of years, at a substantial profit. I would then go out with my nephew and continue our business, most likely on a smaller scale to start, while the older brothers retire. Until then, the older brothers rely more on us than we do on them.

    Cheers.

  246. lisab says:

    mnw,

    half truth looks really bad above

    it is not like usual where he spouts 500 cnn talking points

    he is showing his true self

  247. CG says:

    You don’t have to defend yourself to me, unless you really feel the need to.

    It’s fine. I admire your father and brothers for starting the business (not that I really know much about what it does specifically) and if you can get paid to be on easy street and never run the risk of being let go, that’s great too.

  248. NYCmike says:

    “Until then, the older brothers rely more on us than we do on them.”

    -should clarify this: day to day is more of our responsibility, while the long-term has been more their vision, with some input from us.

    While nowhere near perfect, we have done ok. Over 50 years for any small family business is a good run.

  249. NYCmike says:

    “and if you can get paid to be on easy street and never run the risk of being let go”

    -It is these type of comments that show how much of a sanctimonious j*ck*ss you are, similar to MD.

  250. NYCmike says:

    “You don’t have to defend yourself to me, unless you really feel the need to.”

    -It is called explaining, not defending.

  251. NYCmike says:

    This is why he succeeded in NYC – he is usually correct:

    • Robbie says:
    October 8, 2016 at 7:39 pm
    Rudy is scum.
    Manu Raju? Verified account ?
    ?@mkraju
    Giuliani, leaving Trump Tower, signals Trump is ready to wage war against his party. “This is basically the insiders versus the outsiders.”

  252. NYCmike says:

    Which poster has an ego the size of Alaska?

    “You’ve lost me as an ally, Janz.
    That should cause you to reexamine your thought process when I can no longer tolerate what you’re saying about Trump.”

  253. CG says:

    They have the final say though, right?

    Except for the possibility of firing you. That can never happen, right? That’s the way it should be in families I guess.

    Over the past weekend, I met a second cousin from out of state whom I had never met before in my life (and yes he said he voted for Trump although we did not get to discuss it… his lovely wife voted for Hillary though) He apparently got very rich in business and lives quite well. He’s also somebody who has sadly had some unimaginable tragedies in his life.

  254. NYCmike says:

    YES!

    • Robbie says:
    October 8, 2016 at 1:05 pm
    Apparently, Trump’s strategy for the debate is to attack Hillary for Bill’s sex crimes. That should work, shouldn’t it?

  255. lisab says:

    so corey, what do you do?

    besides running your blog i mean

  256. NYCmike says:

    “Except for the possibility of firing you. That can never happen, right?”

    Incorrect.

    Brothers and sisters have left and/or had their job description changed.

    Getting fired? That is more for TV shows!

  257. NYCmike says:

    Next, let’s see which politicians decided to go against Trump, instead of being patient and allowing the smoke to clear, like Toomey and Johnson and others:

    • Robbie says:
    October 8, 2016 at 11:42 am
    It’s time for Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell to do what they should have done much earlier. It is time for them to call on Trump to quit.
    By the way, Ayotte just said she will not vote for Trump.

  258. NYCmike says:

    #263 – Wes, that probably had more of an affect than your friend Aaron Day.

  259. CG says:

    They left on their own?

    Are your brothers there every day or are they semi-retired at this point? Could you picture them during office hours chatting on a blog?

    Don’t be so offended. I have a cousin who works in the family business that his father and our grandfather started 51 years ago. He makes a good deal of money and I think he gets to go the gym every day. He’s never really had to worry about job security, until I guess my uncle decides he is going to retire permanently and move out of state.

  260. NYCmike says:

    Send a message!

    • Robbie says:
    October 8, 2016 at 12:46 pm
    Joe Heck pulls the plug on Trump. May cost him the Senate seat, but it’s the right move.

  261. NYCmike says:

    “Could you picture them during office hours chatting on a blog?”

    -LOL!

    When I managed the restaurant in San Francisco, I would walk the neighborhood just about every day, drinking coffee, sometimes beers, chatting up Moms, playing with kids, etc.

    Today, with email and skype-type connections, chatting on a blog can be done while speaking with customers, current ones, old ones, potential ones.

    What year are you living in?

  262. NYCmike says:

    “during office hours”

    -Even that phrase is ridiculous!

    My work is not 9-5. More like 5AM – 9PM.

  263. CG says:

    How many hours a day do you sleep? Outside of the office?

  264. CG says:

    This sounds like a restaurant Gordon Ramsay would have had a lot to say about!

    I love watching those shows..

  265. NYCmike says:

    Hmmmmm, was it Trump who attacked Mia Love first, or did Mia throw the first punch?

    • Robbie says:
    October 8, 2016 at 12:55 pm
    Mia Love dumps Trump.
    Stampede. It’s happening quickly now.

  266. CG says:

    So, NYC, theoretically you are Skyping with customers at the very moment you may genuflecting on here to DJT?

    Interesting visual.

  267. NYCmike says:

    More likely responding to emails.

    Paper trails are good.

  268. CG says:

    Everybody already knew that Mia Love did not vote for DJT in 2016. Many other Republicans did not as well.

    Trump thought that because she was a Congresswoman and he became President and her constituent was being held against his will by the Venezuelan regime, that her expressing concern for his constituent and wanting the White House to help was someone a “special political favor.”

  269. CG says:

    I hope Wikileaks isn’t watching you!

  270. CG says:

    Who is in charge of communicating with your legal immigrant warehouse workforce?

    Who gets to tell them to forget about the promise to deport half of them because Jared Kushner is now working on bringing their cousins in as well?

  271. Janz says:

    #231. Do you even know how to make an honest statement.

  272. CG says:

    Name one thing in that post that is dishonest.

  273. NYCmike says:

    “Name one thing in that post that is dishonest.”

    -Do you work for the NY Times or the WAPO?

  274. NYCmike says:

    #276 – The people who work with us would call you a sanctimonious j*ck*ss in several different languages.

  275. NYCmike says:

    “Paper trails are good.”

    -Like the archives.

  276. CG says:

    Everything I have said about what janz claimed in lengthy, rambling posts from during the 2016 campaign is accurate. Since jason attempted to go a million rounds with her over those statements, even he would have to admit she said them at the time, if she was being honest.

    I also gave janz credit later in the campaign for eventually admitting that if I did not vote for Donald Trump out of conscience, I could still be a decent American. I trust she still believes that.

    But she did absolutely say the things I mentioned.

  277. CG says:

    What do they say about you?

  278. NYCmike says:

    • Corey says:
    October 10, 2016 at 11:34 am
    It’s definitely been an interesting few days. Sad for the country though.
    I maintain that Trump will lose by a bigger margin than anyone else is now willing to predict.

  279. CG says:

    If *he was being honest, as in jason.

    Always a crapshoot, at least.

  280. CG says:

    So, I was wrong. Big deal. You said the Cubs weren’t going to the playoffs that year. That was even nuttier.

  281. NYCmike says:

    “What do they say about you?”

    -After a decade or more of working together?

    Don’t really care, as long as their work performance remains at the high standard we have come to expect.

  282. NYCmike says:

    • Robbie says:
    October 8, 2016 at 1:47 pm
    My man Jeb never endorsed Trump.

    • Robbie says:
    October 8, 2016 at 5:01 pm
    John McCain has bailed on Trump. He and his wife won’t vote for Trump.

  283. CG says:

    So, basically you know they hate you.

  284. NYCmike says:

    #288 – One more reason why neither of them will ever be called Mr. President.

  285. CG says:

    290. Do you not realize John McCain is deceased? What do you get out of trashing him at this point?

  286. NYCmike says:

    “So, basically you know they hate you.”

    -Basically, we are all one day closer to death, so worrying what other people think about me isn’t at the top of my priority list, as I know I treat them with the respect they deserve.

  287. CG says:

    Lots of people will never be called “Mr. President” including Rudy Giuliani and Chris Christie.

    Horrible people like WJC and DJT will though and possibly even a “socialist” after the next election.

    John McCain can be called “Patriot” which others will not be remembered for being and Jeb Bush, unlike others, can know that he governed a large entity for eight years and had unprecedented conservative victories and achievements.

  288. CG says:

    But they wouldn’t exactly with you a Happy Birthday, even if they know it was that day, right?

  289. NYCmike says:

    “What do you get out of trashing him at this point?”

    -Trashing them?

    They made decisions in life. It reflected on their political beliefs.

    Those beliefs, or lack thereof, are one of the main reasons their political careers only went so far.

  290. CG says:

    wish you*

  291. lisab says:

    nyc,

    you are arguing about your actual job

    with someone who has never even admitted to working

    and someone who addisontst said had never had a relationship outside of his family

  292. CG says:

    “John McCain will never be called Mr. President…”

    As if you are daring him to run from the everafter. How petty.

  293. NYCmike says:

    ” possibly even a “socialist” after the next election.”

    -Possibly, but I am positive ALL “conservative Republicans” will do everything they can to ensure that doesn’t happen.

  294. NYCmike says:

    “But they wouldn’t exactly with you a Happy Birthday, even if they know it was that day, right?”

    -You are clearly a fragile snowflake.

    Don’t melt, my precious.

  295. NYCmike says:

    “you are arguing about your actual job”

    -No.

    As I said, explaining.

  296. CG says:

    By voting to deny Trump the Republican nomination, I will be, in whatever small way I can.

    I intend to vote for a conservative one way or another next November, but the result in my state is clearly baked in anyway.

  297. CG says:

    Do they like your brothers more or is just a situation where they have contempt for all Gringos?

  298. NYCmike says:

    “Do they like your brothers more or is just a situation where they have contempt for all Gringos?”

    🙂

    Contempt? For whom?

    We are too busy working.

  299. lisab says:

    nyc,

    half truth called you a “nobody” …

    isn’t declaring someone a non-person something that hitler used to do?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1Y73sPHKxw

  300. CG says:

    They might be busy working…

    I said 99.9 percent of people on blogs are nobodies. I guess Walt comes closest since he is the only one here to have ever won an election and not had to resign because of a teenage sex scandal, but he spends most of his posts pretending to be a cow. That’s fine, adds color or whatever.

    Trump should be a nobody, but sadly isn’t. That is why he has to be watched, as anyone in power must be watched.

  301. lisab says:

    he (nyc) is a “nobody.”

  302. jason says:

    So Corey’s excuse for being VERY wrong in 2016 is that he was focusing on the Cubs?

    LOL

    I guess he was VERY wrong about Jeb Bush because he was focused on Jay Cutler’s stat.

  303. lisab says:

    actually he has not yet answered if he was “average” in his prediction yet

  304. CG says:

    I did answer. In 2016, I was slightly below average in predicting the EC and well above average in predicting Congressional races.

    2018-above average all around.

  305. jason says:

    So, I was wrong. Big deal. You said the Cubs weren’t going to the playoffs that year. That was even nuttier.”

    Actually no, your predictions were much more stupid. This is a political blog, not a baseball blog.

    They were 100% based on prejudice and emotions and zero % based on facts.

    And because you were very wrong, and your are still making asinine excuses for why you were wrong, you childishly seek “revenge” by comparing Trump to Hitler, saying Melania is a hooker, etc.

    You ooze lack of character.

  306. CG says:

    I’ve never remotely suggested that Melania was a hooker. 100 percent False.

    I have accurately stated that in the past, she has done soft-core pornography. I didn’t even criticize her for it, although I don’t think it was great aesthetically.

  307. jason says:

    d well above average in predicting Congressional races.”

    Nice red herring, but we were discussing your really stupid prediction that Trump would only win 17 states and maybe lose Utah.

  308. lisab says:

    I did answer. In 2016, I was slightly below average in predicting the EC
    ——————————-

    you were slightly below average in your mind?

    who predicted lower in the prediction contest?

  309. CG says:

    My final prediction was posted. Other than Ohio, which I admitted I remained too stubborn on, my prediction would have been in league with many others.

    What was everyone’s else prediction? Nobody seems to want to mention it.

  310. lisab says:

    What was everyone’s else prediction? Nobody seems to want to mention it.
    ———————————–

    you tell us …

    who was more wrong than you in the prediction contest?

  311. CG says:

    2018 of course is more recent than 2016 and in 2018 jason insisted that Republicans would win every close race and that from his vantage point, he sensed a massive surge for the GOP Gubernatorial candidate in PA who promised to stomp on his opponent’s face with golf spikes.

    He said that even if his candidate lost, it would probably only be by 10 points.

    Well, he was more off on that race than I was on Trump v. Hillary. Perhaps jason was just too emotionally invested.

  312. CG says:

    The person who predicted that Rand Paul would be the GOP nominee was more wrong than me. I will check to see if I can find your result later. It wouldn’t surprise me if you gave some EVs to Jill Stein. It sounds like something you might have done.

    Who was more right than me in 2018?

  313. lisab says:

    is that whataboutism again?

    it is a simple question … who did a worse job than you in the trump vs. clinton prediction contest?

    as an “expert”, you should have a long list

  314. CG says:

    Cory was worse than me in the “contest.” Many others did not participate. Those who said Trump would win a popular vote majority were definitely wrong.

    What was your prediction lisa?

  315. lisab says:

    so no one did worse than you on the hhr prediction contest?

  316. jason says:

    Zzzzz…

    Corey is lying again about what I said.

    I never said Republicans would win every close race.

    What I said was Republicans would win most races where polling showed them tied or very close because I suspected the polling was skewed towards the Dems.

    I used as an example the Scott and DiSantis races and as it turned out, I was one of the few here that consistently predicted both would win. And although polls showed close races in IN and MO I consistently said the Dems were toast in both those states.

    I was off by 6 points in the PA race, BFD, and my excuse was that I hadn’t seen a poll that showed Wagner down by 20. Saying this is as bad as predicting Trump would win 17 states and maybe lose UT is hilariously stupid.

  317. Paul says:

    Looks like Biden is back in the game and ready to whip the pussy grabber.

  318. NYCmike says:

    “Those who said Trump would win a popular vote majority were definitely wrong.”

    -Who said this?

    Where is the actual comment? I don’t recall anybody claiming he would win popular vote and lose the Electoral College.

    I know I predicted 292 or 294 Electoral Votes for Trump. I shortchanged him. Missed Wisconsin I believe.

  319. jason says:

    Cory was worse than me in the “contest.”

    LOL

    Corey beat out the Kanadian math challenged Marxist’s predictions?

    Woww…..

  320. CG says:

    My final predictions were very different than 17 states or maybe losing Utah. During the early primaries, jason insisted Trump might lose all 50 states if he were nominated, so he has no place to talk.

    Clearly, the polling in 2018 was not “biased” against Republicans. We will hear that again though on here for 2020 I am certain.

    I believe I have learned the errors of my ways in terms of Presidential predictin’ as we head in 2020 and if HHR exists, and there is a “contest” I will only be off by 2-3 states at most.

  321. NYCmike says:

    He sure is…..Robbie should know!

    • Robbie says:
    October 8, 2016 at 11:32 am
    Trump just told the WSJ he will NOT quit and the support he’s been receiving is unbelievable.
    This man is delusional.
    The House will be lost.

  322. lisab says:

    it does not sound like half-truth corey was slightly below average in the prediction contest

  323. CG says:

    I would like to see a link where jason specifically said DeSantis would win.

    The Trump die-hards, some of whom only surfaced right before the election, were predicting he would win the EC and the popular vote. Were you not among them NYC? Were you predicting a Hillary win too?

  324. lisab says:

    Cory was worse than me in the “contest.”
    ———————————————

    so one person, who is not from this country, was worse?

    and to you …

    that is slightly below average?

  325. CG says:

    jason did predict Republicans would keep the House in 2018, right?

  326. CG says:

    Other than Ohio, most others predicted Hillary would win the states I predicted. Both people on HHR and the toupees.

  327. jason says:

    I missed PA, WI and MI.

    But I correctly said a 2-3 point national lead might not be enough for Hillary to win the EC.

    Since that was more or less her lead before the election, I should have gone with my hunch and predicted Trump would win the EC.

    I believed the firewall BS, that is why I didn’t give him PA, WI and MI.

    Finally, I predicted that Trump was going to do better than Romney in PA, I just didn’t think he would be able to wipe out Obama’s 300k vote win completely.

  328. jason says:

    jason did predict Republicans would keep the House in 2018, right?”

    Still lying.

    I predicted they would lose 20 seats, GFY.

  329. CG says:

    -jason says he was only off by so much on the PA Gov race because he didn’t “see” a poll showing a 20 point margin.

    As if he would have not trashed that poll immediately.

    I believe he was also wrong on every single special House election the Democrats won as well, as well as his Roy Moore will win prediction, in addition to being wrong on VA Governor in 2017.

    So, it’s been a downhill slide for jason’s predictions since 2016.

  330. CG says:

    I don’t remember the 20 prediction. It must have come pretty late. I will take your word for it.. for now.

    They lost a lot more than 20 though. You were way more off on that than I was on Hillary vs. Trump.

  331. CG says:

    Now, let’s bet on Buttigieg. If you are so sure, why do you need odds?

    Let’s bet straight up.

  332. jason says:

    I did think DeSantis would win. I consistently argued with Amoral Scumbag who said his close ties to Trump would doom him, and I disagreed completely.

    However, what I didn’t think would happen was DeSantis actually doing better than Scott.

    I would have bet 10-1 odds that wouldn’t happen.

  333. lisab says:

    sooooooooooo … one person, who is not a usa citizen, was worse than you

    and you consider that slightly below average?

  334. jason says:

    hey lost a lot more than 20 though. You were way more off on that than I was on Hillary vs. Trump.”

    LOL

    Poor bastard is delusional.

    But tell you what.

    If I find a post where I predicted Rs would lose 20 seats, you send $100 to the York Co. dogs.

    If I can’t find it, I will send $100 to the charity of your choice.

    Deal?

  335. CG says:

    Who was the “worst” on the 2018 contest?

    I know the dblaikie originally predicted Republicans would win 5 seats, t hen said would only lose 8, then maybe changed it to losing a majority barely at the end, but I think a loss of 20 might be up there for last.

    Getting the margin is one thing and I did very well with that too, but I also predicted all 435 races. (only 434 would be determined)

  336. CG says:

    No deal.

    But saying the Republicans would only lose 20 as a final prediction was definitely being too emotionally invested and taking it personally, similar to how I may have approached the Trump thing in 2016.

    I learned from it. Will you?

    Now your Buttigieg will definitely be nominated is pretty damn bold. Just how willing are you to stand by it?

  337. lisab says:

    were you slightly below average half-truth?

    or …

    were you more than slightly below average?

  338. lisab says:

    I learned from it. Will you?

    ———————————

    today you claimed to be SLIGHTLY below average

  339. CG says:

    Find the link to the “contest thread” from 2016 (final predictions only), link it here, and as it specifically relates to the EV, we can get everyone’s data, and then plug it into a spreadsheet and see standard deviation and whatnot.

  340. jason says:

    jason says:
    November 5, 2018 at 11:01 am

    GOP will win all the very close races where they are only down 2-3 points in the MSM polls.

    + 4 in the Senate, – 20 in the House.:”

    Corey was smart not to take the bet.

  341. jason says:

    November 4, 2018 at 12:17 pm
    My gut feeling, like Brandon ask me again Tuesday.
    McSally wins
    Hawley wins
    Scott wins
    Tester wins
    Braun wins
    Cruz wins
    Blackburn wins
    Not sure about Heller.

  342. jason says:

    jason says:
    November 1, 2018 at 10:59 am
    Barletta and Wagner will probably end up losing by 10.
    They have both been outspent heavily in TV ads.
    The ads against Wagner are basically “he is evil because he is a rich businessman” and the ads against Barletta are basically “he wants all of you to die without health insurance”.

  343. jason says:

    No need to lie about anything I said.

  344. lisab says:

    Find the link to the “contest thread” from 2016 (final predictions only), link it here, and as it specifically relates to the EV, we can get everyone’s data, and then plug it into a spreadsheet and see standard deviation and whatnot.
    —————————————-

    actually it is easier than that.

    50 people made a prediction. the average person would be 25th.

    1 person was worse than you. making you 49th.

    would a reasonable person describe 49th out of 50 slightly below average?

  345. jason says:

    Buttigieg has a good chance of being nominated.

    When I first said that everyone thought it was a joke.

    Nobody is laughing now.

    “SOUTH BEND — Mayor Pete Buttigieg has surged to third place in a poll of likely Iowa caucus voters, up from last place two months ago, Emerson Polling announced Sunday.

    Buttigieg registered 11 percent in the poll taken March 21-24, leapfrogging better known Democratic presidential candidates Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker and Beto O’Rourke. He trailed former Vice President Joe Biden at 25 percent and Bernie Sanders at 24 percent. Harris, with 10 percent, was the only other candidate in double-digits.”

  346. lisab says:

    Nobody is laughing now.
    —————————–

    well … i am …

    you said butt gas … lol

    (we’ve been watching a lot of two and a half men lately)

  347. jason says:

    as well as his Roy Moore will win prediction,”

    I said I hoped Roy Moore would win by one vote.

    I believe he was also wrong on every single special House election the Democrats won as well,”

    BS… wrong on every house election Dems won? I don’t remember predicting it but maybe the one Lamb won I got wrong by a couple hundred votes.

    LOL… Rs won most of the special House elections and I probably got every one of them right, certainly I got Balderson right… and Gianforte…and Handel…

  348. NYCmike says:

    “and there is a “contest” I will only be off by 2-3 states at most.”

    -I GUARANTEE that if “CG” is off, it will be with Trump not getting the Electoral Votes he needs to win.

    “CG” will NOT EVER predict a Trump victory. He would rather be wrong than do such a thing!

  349. jason says:

    Now, let’s bet on Buttigieg. If you are so sure, why do you need odds?

    Let’s bet straight up.”

    There are 20 candidates, of course I want odds.

    You can have 10-1.

    Since you are so sure it’s not going to be him, it’s easy money for you.

    I never said I am sure it will be him, I just said I have a feeling none of the front runners will pan out and the Dems may well nominate a dark horse.

    10-1 is more than fair.

  350. CG says:

    If I think Trump will win in 2020, I will predict it, even though I will never support him. It’s going to be pretty uphill for him.

    I checked out the prediction thread. My EV total was also tied with Greymarch and I was only 1 behind Paul!

    The general consensus was that Hillary would take over 300 EV. I was slightly below average in number of EV. If I had flipped Ohio, my number would have been about the same as two dozen others.

    No prediction whatsoever from lisab there. She defaulted. Perhaps she thought Jill Stein was going to win because of something said on the Howie Carr show.

  351. CG says:

    I don’t think 10-1 is fair. I will give you time to think about if you really want to bet on this or not.

    The one caveat is that Buttigieg will have to be the original nominee. I think there might be a 10 percent chance he is someone’s running-mate and then if something happens and he gets elevated… that cannot be a factor.

  352. lisab says:

    I checked out the prediction thread. My EV total was also tied with Greymarch
    —————————–

    so you were tied for 49th?

  353. CG says:

    I finished ahead of you since you were off by 100 percent.

  354. NYCmike says:

    “The Trump die-hards, some of whom only surfaced right before the election, were predicting he would win the EC and the popular vote. Were you not among them NYC? Were you predicting a Hillary win too?”

    -Never predicted Trump would win the popular vote. jason’s reasoning about Hillary winning by less than 2% nationally would mean a Trump victory made sense to me, considering the disparity in NY, CA, MA and IL. Either way, Trump was not going to get the most vote. I don’t expect him to get the most votes this time around either.

  355. lisab says:

    so again, you were tied for 49th?

    (out of 50)

  356. Tina says:

    Yes, shut it down,

    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    Good. Wise move.

    Arizona Gov. Ducey backs Trump on ‘short as possible’ Mexico border closure https://washex.am/2IafRd9

    230
    2:05 PM – Apr 3, 2019

  357. jason says:

    Yep, Buttigieg at 10-1 is no longer fair, just checked Predictit he is at 15c.

    Ok, 7-1.

  358. jason says:

    Scary….very scary…

    CNN anchor Christiane Amanpour asked former FBI director James Comey Tuesday why he didn’t “shut down” the “lock her up” chant popular among Trump supporters during the 2016 election. Amanpour claimed the chant about jailing Hillary Clinton was potentially “dangerous” and “hate speech.”

  359. Tina says:

    In that same interview, comedy does not want an investigation of the investigators.

  360. NYCmike says:

    • Wes says:
    October 8, 2016 at 11:57 am
    We’re reaching critical mass on this. All articulate opinion has moved against Trump.
    Toast.

    -“articulate opinion”!

    I guess Wes forgot what William Buckley said about the phone book compared to Harvard professors.

  361. janz says:

    Mayor Pete is a “sleeper,” in that he sounds sane, is articulate, smart, speaks many languages etc, but is as radical as any of the current lunatics running for the dem nomination.

  362. NYCmike says:

    “Mayor Pete is a “sleeper,”

    -No way he will win the nomination then.

    One must be WOKE!

  363. janz says:

    CG is an idiot.

  364. janz says:

    I don’t call people ”idiots” lightly. But, when people twist words and intentions to pad their own narratives, like CG & so many dems do these days, then they deserve to be called out for it.

  365. lisab says:

    you say “idiot”

    but i would say he lacks character

    half-truth corey is a good monicker

  366. Bitterlaw says:

    Most of us were wrong in 2016 and admitted it. Only Corey still thinks victory for his prediction is possible.

  367. lisab says:

    The legend lives on from old Brooklyn on down
    Of the wreck of the Hillary Clinton
    The White House was hers, they had told her, for sure
    There’s no way that the orange man will get in
    With a loada donor cash many million dollars more
    Than Don Trump’s enterprise had control of
    The Clinton campaign was to suffer much pain
    When the votes of November changed motives

    Her crew was the pride of the liberal side
    Coming out from the Democrat contest
    As candidates go, she was way worse than most
    But she had on her side media broadcasts
    Concluding that she couldn’t win on herself
    She set out to tear down the Donald
    Little did she know he would go on to show
    He was more like the one they called Ronald

    When fall came around their campaigns hit the ground
    Both of them had their share of misfortune
    Hillary fell and Donald couldn’t tell
    Whether he should even try to win
    The debates were all tests of president-ness
    And most said that Hillary won them
    For in all three affairs Donald dwelt on his cares
    Plus he did have to deal with some nose phlegm

    When October came, the surprises were out
    And boy were they hard on the Trump team
    A “pussy” remark gave his party a rout
    His campaign almost lost all of its steam
    But Donald held on and refused to be gone
    Though many protested against him
    The rest of the fall he doubled down on the gall
    That had earned him his primary big win

    Does anyone know where the love of God goes
    When elections turn minutes to hours?
    The pundits had said Comey’s letter was dead
    But the night defied their guessing powers
    At first it had seemed that they’d all shout “YAAS QUEEN”
    When the exit polls presaged her victory
    Yet the Donald came through where the Great Lakes are blue
    In the states where the weather is wintry

    The pundits were told that the Blue Wall would hold
    No way the Great Lakes could become red
    But the night would go on to prove them all wrong
    On Penn, Michigan, and Wisconsin
    As farther below, the swing states would go
    The Great Lakes had pushed Trump to conquest
    They voted for him even though he had been
    Rated by most as dishonest

    In a swanky new pad in Brooklyn they cried
    For the doom of the Democrat Party
    On Twitter they wailed for their efforts had failed
    Though they thought that their base had been hearty
    The legend lives on from old Brooklyn on down
    Of the wreck of the Hillary Clinton
    Elections, they learned, must be actually earned
    Lest the votes of November go Trumpin.’

  368. Phil says:

    Oh, man. That’s genius. Gordon Lightfoot would be proud!

  369. NYCmike says:

    https://nypost.com/2019/04/02/the-slow-motion-disaster-undermining-new-yorks-economy/

    -Yup.

    One of my brothers has already told me “Get the F*CK out while you still can!” meaning sell my house to some schmuck who thinks NYC is immune to any downturns in real estate.

  370. NYCmike says:

    “Most of us were wrong in 2016 and admitted it. Only Corey still thinks victory for his prediction is possible.”

    -And then there is MD:

    • MD says:
    October 10, 2016 at 11:25 am
    The LA Times (Frank’s trusted poll above all other polls) is still hanging on! The unstable, racist, sexist, sexually assaulting POS is up 3.

  371. Tina says:

    This is dumb. Burr keeps getting pushed around by the Drat nut.

    Arthur Schwartz
    @ArthurSchwartz
    ·
    59m
    #BREAKING: Tucker Carlson reporting that GOP controlled Senate Intel committee is continuing the Russia collusion witch hunt. Burr is chairman in name only — Warner is obviously calling the shots.

  372. NYCmike says:

    “In his early years, Cuomo publicly demonized Republicans while privately using their hold on the state Senate as a shield against the spendthrift ways of Assembly Democrats. When Republicans began dying off, he hid behind the breakaway Dems.”

    -Just as I said. Cuomo hid behind the supposedly “Republican” members in charge of the State Senate, where they timidly applied the brakes to runaway Dem crazy-cars. The result? A weaker and weaker NY Republican Party, where their voters expect them to cut deals instead of standing up for small-government principles.

    NOW? Democrats will drive more and more tax-payers down to get massages from Wes in North Carolina.

  373. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    369. “Mayor Pete is a “sleeper,”

    Agree. Listening to him can put you to sleep.

  374. janz says:

    #373. Half-truth Corey is ok by me, as it fits his behavior.

  375. lisab says:

    trump ends usda practicee of deadly experiments on kittens

    kamala harris: death to kittens!

  376. lisab says:

    janz,

    confidentially … “half-truth” … may be optimistic 🙂

  377. Wes says:

    Hm. A Deadender from the Left. A former State Rep is considering a challenge to McConnell for moving too far right—in Kentucky:

    https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/congress/article228745429.html

    Up is down. Down is up. No word on whether Don Blankenship plans to move to Kentucky and throw a public tantrum after McConnell trounces him in the primary.

  378. dblaikie says:

    I knew it would only be a matter of time before the New York Times or another media Trump hating outlet would be out with a bogus news story. I get so tired with “unnamed sources” or “someone close to the investigation.” And what does “more damaging to Trump than Barr reveals” even mean? It doesn’t change the fact that no crime was committed or being charged.

    In my line of work as a Pastor I have always counseled that hatred and bitterness was horribly destructive. Well, in the world of politics, this is being shown in spades. Hatred for the President is driving our media and the democratic party into total self-destruction.

  379. Tina says:

    Three more women come forward with accusations against Biden.

    This was post creepy “apology” video.

    Jebots need to go code red and defend their Drat.

  380. jason says:

    Corey’s contortions yesterday to claim he wasn’t actually wrong in 2016 are truly hilarious.

    I don’t which is funnier, the claim that “except for Ohio” he was really on track, or the claim that my being off by 6 points on the PA 2108 governor’s election was “even worse” than his predictions for President in 2016. Or maybe the one where he claims his prediction was better than the Kanadian Kommunist. Or was it “my predictions were actually good on October 10th”? Or “well my Congressional picks were good”… so many to pick from.

    At least what, several hours lying and dozens of fake posts because he just can’t admit TDS led him to completely abandon facts and reality to the point he thought Trump was going to lose Utah and Georgia.

    Pathetic.

  381. mnw says:

    “Jobless Claims Fall to 49-year Low”

    Thank you… Barack Hussein!

    (Remember, Trump didn’t build that.)

  382. jason says:

    So maybe there is one Dem who is not a Marxist (yet?)

    “He dismissed the Green New Deal goals, such as job and housing guarantees, as economically unfeasible, saying the proponents of the deal are lying to voters.

    “There’s no need to lie to voters right now,” he said. “We don’t need the Democratic version of ‘repeal and replace.’”

    “There’s no need to lie to voters right now … We don’t need the Democratic version of repeal and replace.”
    — U.S. Rep. Max Rose, D-N.Y.

    But Rose went on to slam Ocasio-Cortez following a story that she’s compiling a “list” of Democrats that will face a primary challenge from progressive Democrats for siding with Republicans in the House on an amendment to notify the federal agency Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) whenever an illegal immigrant attempts to buy a firearm.

    “She’s going to keep a list,” Rose said, looking somewhat annoyed. “This is very simple because I’m not one to deal in subtleties. I think it’s best not to be passive-aggressive. If she wants to primary me, if the Justice Democrats want to primary me, I’ll lay out the red carpet. We can settle this at the polls.”

  383. Cash Cow TM says:

    I just checked the obituaries and am glad to report that Walt is still not dead.
    ########################################

  384. Wes says:

    After 4.5 billion years and multiple ELEs, Walt is certifiably invincible and immortal.

  385. Cash Cow TM says:

    Nice poem, lisab.

    Cow is teary eyed…

  386. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    STUDY: Gorillas Gather Around, Groom Bodies Of Deceased…

  387. Tina says:

    Breaking, Jebots Crushed

    Rasmussen Poll

    47 percent believe Her Thighness colluded wirh Russia.

    45 percent believe trump did.

    This despite two years of Russian hoaxing to shape a fake narrative,

  388. Wes says:

    Tim Ryan will run for President.

    Why not?

  389. mnw says:

    Trump’s path to victory requires the U.S. economy to be as good in 18 months as it is today.

    (mnw swallows hard. shirt collar seems a little tight. isn’t it a little warm in here?)

  390. lisab says:

    jason,

    i love how half-truth claims he was only “slightly below average” … which took him 100 posts to admit

    did anyone else here claim trump would lose utah?

  391. lisab says:

    or lose by 14 points?

  392. lisab says:

    these days if such a child was in school

    we would have a (BIP) behavioral intervention plan for him, to help him tell the truth,

    and hopefully keep him from getting beat up every day by the other children

  393. lisab says:

    well rove is signalling he wants biden

    that must be the “jebot choice”

    as an acceptable swamp leader.

    i just don’t know who they could start a war with that we haven’t already started a war with since 9/11

  394. jason says:

    did anyone else here claim trump would lose utah?”

    I think Amoral Scumbag was making the case for McMullin but not sure.

  395. jason says:

    Look, let’s be magnanimous.

    Let’s give Corey the win over a math challenged America hating Canadian Communist who actually said Hillary was a “good person”.

    I believe in giving credit where credit is due.

  396. jason says:

    or lose by 14 points?”

    Hey, that was “correct on October 10th”

    Of course, Corey was the only one making predictions
    for October 10th, the rest of us were predicting the results on election day.

  397. jason says:

    Note Corey blamed Assange for the fact his predictions sucked, and how they distracted from the Hollywood tape.

    But had he been right I am sure he would have admitted that the Hollywood tapes helped his cause.

    Hollywood tape leak of a private conversation with locker room talk a dozen years before the election: good.

    Leaks of Podesta’s emails that were real, current and exemplified how corrupt Hillary Clinton and her campaign was: bad.

  398. jason says:

    “47 percent believe Her Thighness colluded wirh Russia.”

    53% are morons.

    45 percent believe trump did.”

    45% are morons.

  399. lisab says:

    I think Amoral Scumbag was making the case for McMullin but not sure.
    ——————————————
    sure, remember this post?

    corey says:

    OMG OMG

    It would take a fascinating scenario — in which much of the technical detail of how we select presidents comes into play — for McMullin to be sworn in as the 45th president, but the chances of its happening are slim, not none.

  400. NYCmike says:

    #391 – Max Rose = Democrat who defeated Dan Donovan, in a seat which Michael Grimm had held several years earlier.

    This is one of the examples of the districts where the Dems ran someone totally at odds with their leadership, and where they had Presidential-year-election-turnout, while Donovan stayed at about the same level as previous off-year elections.

    I suspect this CD will be competitive, but if Rose keeps up his more conservative rhetoric, combined with his military background, he will prove formidable. I am not sure who will challenge him in 2020.

  401. Bitterlaw says:

    https://www.philly.com/news/pond-lehocky-law-firm-judge-andrea-mccormick-fired-tom-wolf-pennsylvania-governor-20190404.html

    I know the judge and all the lawyers involved. It is scary that s firm can take down a judge who is not biased in their favor. I am not defending the judge. She was crazy but O thought she was pretty even-handed in her craziness.

  402. Bitterlaw says:

    I thought

  403. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “did anyone else here claim trump would lose utah?”

    I may have made the claim when McMullin first announced. His candidacy promptly fizzled out.

    Trump is not popular in Utah. A recent poll indicated that Republicans in Utah favor Romney 55% to Trump 37% in a presidential primary contest between the two.

  404. Tina says:

    Karl Rove, the never trumpets, and the jebots will start fronting more for Gaffe.

  405. lisab says:

    Trump is not popular in Utah. A recent poll indicated that Republicans in Utah favor Romney 55% to Trump 37% in a presidential primary contest between the two.
    —————————-

    but the question was hillary or trump not romney or trump

    romney may want to be president, but he missed his chance

  406. lisab says:

    Karl Rove, the never trumpets, and the jebots will start fronting more for Gaffe.
    ————————————–

    they need another war

  407. lisab says:

    Pennsylvania state senate seat in Trump country
    Democrats just flipped a pro-Trump state senate district in Pennsylvania

  408. lisab says:

    President Trump set to nominate Herman Cain for a Federal Reserve seat.

  409. lisab says:

    charlize theron adopted a boy from africa

    is raising the boy as a girl

    he is 7 years old.

  410. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/democrats-propose-emergency-savings-and-retirement-plan-for-workers/

    -One more idea which will make us change the way we employ certain people. Most likely, we will hire fewer full-timers, and simply call people in for work only when we definitely have it coming.

  411. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    414. Trump will easily carry Utah against whoever the Democrats nominate in 2020.

  412. Wes says:

    Why is Biden dressed like the Joker?

  413. Tina says:

    Looks like Benito Wasserman, who was dumped from the doj by Barr, wanted to charge trump with obstruction. He is the guy that cried at Hillary’s victory party and he lost 9-0 in the Supreme Court, just like his role role model, sjw Yates.

    Obstruction based on trump firing Comedy. Now follow this, trump was not u dear investigation, per comedy. A counterintelligence investigation was opened in which the president cannot obstruct such an investigation, and if you read the above article, there was unprecedented cooperation between trumps lawyers and Mulehead,

    If the president obstructed justice by firing comedy, then so did Sessions and Redactstein for making the recommendation.

    We all know that Redactstein supervised the witch hunt.

  414. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    An Obama thought we could trust the Iranians to honor a treaty:

    “The Pentagon is upping the official estimate on the number of U.S. troops in Iraq who were killed by Iranian-backed militias, now putting that number at at least 603.

    Officials previously said that Iran was linked to the deaths of roughly 500 troops.

    That means roughly one in every six American combat fatalities in Iraq were attributable to Iran.

    The deaths are attributed to proxies sponsored by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps — Iran’s elite military force that protects the regime from internal and external threats.”

  415. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Its interesting that leftist are trying to reduce the age for voting to 16, while raising the age to buy a gun to 21.

  416. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “As Joe Biden’s allies raced to defend the former vice president in the face of a mounting political crisis, one voice has remained silent: former President Barack Obama. People close to the former president say that he is standing behind Biden amid allegations.”

    Yes, but is his nose in Biden’s hair.

  417. Ron N says:

    I am no prosecutor but if I am SDNY I would be pissed. Where did Cohen hid this drive and why was it not handed over. This could work against him. But MSM think they got trump now again.

  418. mnw says:

    416 lisab

    I’ll trade it for the WI SC seat.

    Trench warfare, anyone?

  419. Cash Cow TM says:

    Burks lifts Marshall over Green Bay 90-70 to win CIT title

    STATS AP Apr 04, 2019

    HUNTINGTON, W.Va. (AP) C.J. Burks scored 28 points as Marshall romped past Green Bay 90-70 on Thursday night for the CollegeInsider.com Postseason Tournament championship.

    Marshall University (WV) wins the CIT !!
    ********************************************
    C.J. Burks is graduate of Walt’s alma mater and where he taught for 33 1/2 years.

  420. mnw says:

    Good for u, Cow.

  421. Cash Cow TM says:

    There needs to be more candidates in the D primary.
    Cow predicts when it is all said and done, it will maybe be a hundert.

    They really need some leftist Hollywood icon to run and join the race.

  422. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt never had him as a student… but Burkes was on one of the more recent teams from HHS to make it to the state bassetball finals.

    Walt says it was 4 years ago (When Burks ws a freshman who saw very little playing time) that he went from Charleston to Huntington on legislative bidness that had to do with tha tour of the WV State Police crime lab in Huntington and they also stopped by to tour the Huntington sports facility and take in part of a bassetball game.

  423. Bitterlaw says:

    Congratulations to Walt’s student for being on the 69th best men’s college basketball team.

  424. Tina says:

    Pencil Head and Jabba work better

    Bill Mitchell
    @mitchellvii
    ·
    40m
    Schiff and Nadler are taking their song and dance act to Vegas.

    They are calling themselves, “Bobblehead & Jabba.”

    Should be a hit.

  425. Bitterlaw says:

    Oops. I misread that. It was the CIT. 133rd best college team?

  426. lisab says:

    i only watch the nfl

  427. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt wants to know if Duke is still in the NCAA playoff…and if not, who is still in it?

  428. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Tend to agree with Roger Simon:

    “The full text of the Mueller report is a booby-trap for the Democrats. And many of them not named Schiff must know or suspect it.
    Sure there will be one or two tidbits to keep the heavy breathers at CNN distracted as their ratings continue to fall through the basement, but largely the report will be four hundred pages demonstrating what we all now know did not happen — i. e. collusion between Trump or anyone on his campaign and the Russians (not that we didn’t know that over a year ago).
    The natural question will then be — what was all this for? Cui bono? A full airing of the report, what Nadler claims he wants, will instead “open the door,” as they say in court, more than ever for an investigation of why this probe was launched in the first place, by whom and for what reason. The results of that investigation will be quite scary, if not humiliating, for Democrats because they will lead close to, if not over, their highest doorstep — the portals of the Oval Office during the previous administration.”

  429. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    March, 2019 Jobs’ Report:

    Actual— 196,000 new March jobs’ created and a 3.8% unemployment rate.

  430. mnw says:

    Sheep, you lightning-fingered basturd.

  431. mnw says:

    P.S. to 440:

    “Wages are rising while layoffs and unemployment remain near the lowest levels in half a century.”

  432. mnw says:

    CNBC: “70% of Wall Street Executives Expect Trump to Be Re-Elected”

  433. Wobbles says:

    Zzzzzzz…..

    What’s new with Stormy?

    Did you hear Cohen has 14 million files, all detrimental to Trump?

    Socialist 2020!

  434. Wobbles says:

    I heard at MSNBC that at least 4 of the 14 million files might have something that might overturn the results of the election.

  435. jason says:

    Don’t you love the MSM?

    Kochs” Hagedorn…. LOL

    “The Koch brothers’ astroturf operation, Americans for Prosperity (AFP), and Wisconsin Family Action (WFA) are exuberant over Brian Hagedorn’s apparent razor-thin victory over Lisa Neubauer on Tuesday for a seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court.

    If the Kochs’ Hagedorn is elected, the Wisconsin Supreme Court will move one seat further to the right with a 5-2 majority.”

  436. jason says:

    From the mouth of idiots you sometimes get a flash of clarity…

    Piers Morgan says Trump will win in 2020:

    “Why? First, because the Democrats are being dragged so far left by ranting young firebrand socialists like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez they can’t possibly beat a guy who’s got the US economy purring, job numbers flying, Isis fleeing and China blinking. Second, because the Trump-bashing mainstream US media undermined their collective credibility with over-the-top 24/7 coverage that Special Counsel Robert Mueller would find Trump colluded with Russia to fix the 2016 election — only for Mueller to clear him. My friend Donald’s not everyone’s cup of tea. But he’s a brilliant campaigner who’s won every political contest he’s entered, and when your opponents are this prone to self-harming, it makes winning so much easier.”

    The “won every political contest he has entered” (what was that, one?) is a little hyperbolic but I agree many people are become inoculated against MSM propaganda.

  437. jason says:

    “are become”

    I blame the fact its been 5 hours since breakfast.

  438. Wes says:

    Pocahontas now wants to end the filibuster in the Senate altogether. I guess squawking about the evil of a parliamentary procedure Dems have been ruthlessly employing ever since the GWB Administration is some desperate attempt to gain traction:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/04/05/elizabeth-warren-filibuster-2020-election-1259196

  439. Cash Cow TM says:

    COW-a-bunga!

  440. Wes says:

    Trump has been in one political race in his life against a candidate with a multitude of flaws. That doesn’t indicate political invincibility. Former Senator Warren Magnuson (D-WA) had won 12 straight elections with no losses in 1980 in his bid for a seventh term in the Senate. He promptly lost.

    My point is that an undefeated electoral streak doesn’t of itself always imply political invincibility.

    Given visceral voter dislike of Trump and the fluke nature of his 2016 victory, I rather think Trump is likely to share Magnuson’s fate next year.

  441. dblaikie says:

    Wes I get it — Trump can be his own worst enemy. However even with that fact the field that the dems are putting up more than makes up for Trump’s twitter and ego. Couple with that a solid base and a good economy and a ton of money and you have a hard campaign to beat. You have made the good point that Trump has not changed since the midterms — there is some truth to that. But once again the democrats with the debacle in Virginia, the green new deal, the savaging of Uncle Joe, and there refusal to move on from this silly Russian Collusion nonsense, have gotten worse. If they could change they would have a real chance winning — but they won’t. I am looking forward to savoring that single malt my friend.

  442. dblaikie says:

    I hate bad grammar especially when I am the culprit. Of course I meant “their refusal” in the above post.

  443. Wes says:

    You’ll be savoring it in your dreams, DB.

  444. jason says:

    Given visceral voter dislike of Trump and the fluke nature of his 2016 victory,”

    I am not sure he is more disliked than in 2016, frankly. Of course the level of dislike impacts his chances just like it did in 2016. The people that hate him really hate him and won’t vote for him, but they didn’t vote for him in 2016 either.

    The question is how many other people who dislike him will vote for ANY Dem just because of that. I am not convinced that when push comes to shove, most people won’t take into account the ideology of the Dem candidate and how their policies will impact their lives. Although Bitter says he has met people like that, I haven’t. I have literally not met ONE person who voted for Trump in 2016 who says they will vote for a Dem in 2106, not one. I have, however, met other people like me who didn’t vote for him in 2016 but will support him in 2020. Certainly we have seen several such people at HHR too.

    And Trump’s win in 2016 was not a fluke, although Trump himself was a fluke. Sure Hillary was a horrible candidate, but she would have beaten any other R in the field, only Trump was able to tap into a wave of discontentment among working class voters that nobody else either saw or was able to capitalize on. For that reason I don’t consider his win a fluke, he genuinely was able to sell a vision that although I personally do not agree with entirely, certainly sold well to a lot of people.

    So I am skeptical about calling the election this early in the cycle. Contrary to wes, I think the opponent DOES matter and the economy and other factors DO matter and the election will not hinge only on Trump’s personality.

    Time will tell.

  445. jason says:

    The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Thursday shows that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. Forty-seven percent (47%) disapprove.

    The latest figures include 38% who Strongly Approve of the job Trump is doing and 40% who Strongly Disapprove. This gives him a Presidential Approval Index rating of -2.”

    If the 38% strongly approve is anywhere near accurate, it’s pretty remarkable considering the 95% bashing he gets from the MSM.

  446. lisab says:

    also, there were many voters who

    a. did not vote for trump because they were convinced he would lose, so they did not bother to vote

    b. did not vote for trump because they thought he was lying about the policies he would try to implement — now he has proven he will nominate conservative judges, lower taxes, repeal regulations etc. they may still not likehim, but they do not think he is a democrat anymore

  447. Wes says:

    Just because you say Hillary would have beaten any other candidate, Jason, that doesn’t make it true. Trump won because Hillary’s flaws gave him an opening for victory. That would have been true for literally anyone else. It’s a question of whether or not another Republican would have capitalized, but Hillary wasn’t some electoral Titan invincible to anyone but Donald Trump.

  448. jason says:

    Looks like Anthony Weiner will be running for the Presidency, with Eric Holder as VP.

    Yes, it will be the Weiner-Holder ticket.

  449. Wes says:

    By the way, Mikey, now that Dems have complete control of Albany, they’re raising taxes and fees and giving Ol’ Andy a 40% pay increase.

    Ah. One-party leftist rule. Thank God when your fellow New Yorkers migrated to NC and tried to establish the same thing here, we native Tarheels turned out and shut them down.

  450. jason says:

    Just because you say Hillary would have beaten any other candidate, Jason, that doesn’t make it true.”

    No, that is my opinion, you are free to disagree. I don’t think any other R would have won PA, MI and WI for starters. I would have given Rubio a small chance of winning by losing those and but winning CO, NM, NV, and NH, and every other state Trump won but I doubt it would have happened. Nobody else would have come close IMO. Kasich, no. Bush, no. Christie, no. I can’t think of any that didn’t run that would have beaten Hillary. Romney? No.

  451. lisab says:

    Sales of breast implants to be suspended in Canada

  452. lisab says:

    kasich might have given her a close election

  453. jason says:

    “Did not vote for trump because they thought he was lying about the policies he would try to implement — now he has proven he will nominate conservative judges, lower taxes, repeal regulations etc. they may still not likehim, but they do not think he is a democrat anymore”

    That’s not why I didn’t vote for him, but I did think that.

    I was wrong. I still don’t think he is a conservative, but I will give him credit for the judges, regulations, energy policy, and taxes.

  454. jason says:

    kasich might have given her a close election”

    No way. I doubt he would have even won FL.

  455. CG says:

    2016 exit poll- FL

    Opinion of Hillary Clinton

    45 Favorable (7% of these people voted for her)
    53 Unfavorable

    Opinion of Donald Trump

    41 Favorable (15% of these people voted for him)
    57 Unfavorable

    Is Clinton qualified?

    52 Yes
    47 No (3% voted for her)

    Is Trump qualified?

    43 Yes
    55 No (16% voted for him)

    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/florida/president

    This same dynamic can be seen in every swing state that Trump won.

    Voters liked him even less than Hillary and found him far more unqualified. Yet he still got enough votes to win because the voters that disliked both and voted for him, really, really, really disliked Hillary.

    The argument that a different mainstream Republican, such a Kasich or others, would have been so much more disliked than Trump or viewed as so much more unqualified than Trump is simply impossible to imagine.

    A look at the actual exit poll data and a bit of common sense indicates that many other Republicans would have done far better against Hillary.

  456. NYCmike says:

    “So I am skeptical about calling the election this early in the cycle. Contrary to wes, I think the opponent DOES matter and the economy and other factors DO matter and the election will not hinge only on Trump’s personality.”

    -I said this in November, right after White-Flag-Wes threw his 2020-handkerchief in for the first time

  457. CG says:

    The data for the first question should be in parentheses next to those who said unfavorable.

    Opinion of Hillary Clinton

    45 Favorable
    53 Unfavorable (7% of these people voted for her)

    Opinion of Donald Trump

    Is Clinton qualified?

    52 Yes
    47 No (3% voted for her)

    Is Trump qualified?

    43 Yes
    55 No (16% voted for him)

    41 Favorable
    57 Unfavorable (15% of these people voted for him)

  458. NYCmike says:

    “A look at the actual exit poll data and a bit of common sense indicates that many other Republicans would have done far better against Hillary.”

    -Like JEB!2016………

  459. CG says:

    Having some issues with cut and paste, but let’s take a look at MI, the biggest surprise of the cycle.
    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/michigan/president

    Clinton-
    42 % favorable
    56 % Unfavorable (11% still voted for her)

    Trump-

    39% favorable
    59 % unfavorable (17% still voted for him)

    Is Hillary qualified?

    50 Y
    48 N (5% voted for her)

    Is Trump qualified?

    40 Y
    59 N (17% voted for him)

    The idea that Trump was somehow popular in Michigan is a complete myth. He still won because he was running against Hillary.

    Is it even possible to imagine that a different Republican, including one who would have done far better in the suburbs, would have been that much more disliked than Trump? All indications are that they would have been viewed far more favorably than Trump was in all these states.

  460. NYCmike says:

    Too bad those other candidates didn’t defeat Trump in the primaries.

    Are you against the primary system?

  461. CG says:

    Kasich, Jeb, and Rubio would have won bigger than Trump, certainly nationwide. Walker too most likely. Christie too, although he might have been as unpopular personally as Trump. The one “iffy” scenario is Cruz.

  462. CG says:

    Pick any state from the 2016 exit polls and look at those questions and all the others.

    Hillary lost the election *far* more than Trump won it.

    At this point, if he is renominated, Trump’s only hope is someone even more disliked than Hillary.

  463. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “I rather think Trump is likely to share Magnuson’s fate next year.”

    Warren Magnuson lost his seat in the Reagan election landslide in 1980; 12 Democratic senators were defeated. Also Magnuson was old and clearly in bad health; his main argument for reelection was his seniority. He once stated that he might not be able to walk that fast, but “the meeting can’t start until I get there.” I don’t see any comparison between his election defeat and Trump’s reelection chances in 2020.

  464. CG says:

    MAGAnuson?

  465. NYCmike says:

    “At this point, if he is renominated, Trump’s only hope is someone even more disliked than Hillary.”

    -BUT, of course you want the Democratic candidate to lose……

  466. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Kasich, Jeb, and Rubio would have won bigger than Trump, certainly nationwide.”

    I don’t see candidates that got trounced in the GOP primarily suddenly becoming popular in the general election. The fact is Trump turned out a massive amount of voters who probably would not have turned out for a “regular” Republican. From the book “Shattered.”

    “Schale explained, Trump’s numbers weren’t just big, they were unreal. In rural Polk County, smack-dab in the center of the state, Hillary would collect 3,000 more votes than Obama did in 2012 — but Trump would add more than 25,000 votes to Mitt Romney’s total. In Pasco County, a swath of suburbs north of Tampa-St. Petersburg, Trump outran Romney by 30,000 votes.
    Pasco was one of the counties Schale was paying special attention to because the Tampa area tended to attract retirees from the Rust Belt — folks whose political leanings reflected those of hometowns in the industrial Midwest. In particular, Schale could tell, heavily white areas were coming in hard for Trump.”

  467. CG says:

    Wisconsin 2016 exit poll

    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/wisconsin/president

    Opinion of Clinton

    42 Favorable
    56 Unfavorable (9% voted for her)

    Opinion of Trump

    35 Favorable
    64 Unfavorable (21 % voted for him!)

    In this state, we can also see Opinion of Paul Ryan aka “Ryano”

    51 Favorable (32% of these voters voted for Hillary, only 63% for Trump)
    43 Unfavorable

    Clearly, Paul Ryan, a mainstream, traditional, conservative Republican was far more popular in WI than Trump

    Is Hillary qualified:

    52 Y
    47 N (6% voted for her)

    Is Trump qualified

    35 Y
    64 N (18% still voted for him)

    It is inconceivable to think that this electorate would have deemed a different Republican more unfavorable or less qualified than Trump.

    If they voted in high enough numbers for Trump, they would have voted for just about anyone with an R next to their name against Hillary.

  468. CG says:

    The general election electorate is certainly different than a primary electorate. You are comparing apples and oranges.

    After all, Trump was viscerally hated in the Republican primaries and had far more people vote against him in those that voted for him, and he still got enough votes to win the general election.

    All exit poll data indicates that Kasich for instance would have beaten Hillary in every state she lost by at least a few more points, and he would have won some other states as well.

  469. CG says:

    To look at the actual data and suggest that Trump was the most electable Republican is to claim that a large swath of voters would have determined that they really disliked Trump and found him unqualified for the job yet still voted for him, whereas someone they liked more and found more qualified for the job would have earned a no vote.

    It just doesn’t add up.

    And everything that happened with actual data and actual votes nationwide in 2018 backs it up.

  470. CG says:

    In regards to the actual electorate that elected Trump in 2016 and the exit polls a couple of other questions asked in all the states is also pretty interesting-

    Should illegal immigrants be:

    offered legal status or deported to home country?

    Do you think immigrants:

    help the country
    hurt the country

    The data from various states goes against the perceived Trump position on those questions. Deportation was considered very unpopular and voters were far more likely to say immigrants helped rather than hurt the country.

    It was not enough to cause Trump to lose the swing states he won, but among this actual electoral i.e. “Trump alone brought these people out”, the math does not add up and shows that a different Republican, who would have been more attuned with public opinion on the issue would have done a lot better even.

  471. NYCmike says:

    We have gone through this before. “CG” can think what he wants, and others can have the opposite opinion. It won’t change 2016.

    Some people are done with that election, and will now determine their vote for 2020 based on what Trump has done, as well as the realization that Hillary’s actions would have been drastically different. I see jason in that category, as well as the Redstate Erickson guy, and others.

    Then you have people like “CG”, whose brain won’t allow them to get past the guac bowls being given away in February 2016.

  472. NYCmike says:

    ““Schale explained, Trump’s numbers weren’t just big, they were unreal. In rural Polk County, smack-dab in the center of the state, Hillary would collect 3,000 more votes than Obama did in 2012 — but Trump would add more than 25,000 votes to Mitt Romney’s total. In Pasco County, a swath of suburbs north of Tampa-St. Petersburg, Trump outran Romney by 30,000 votes.”

    -This line has been posted several times in the last 2 years. “CG” simply ignores it.

    Oh well.

  473. CG says:

    It’s not so much what I “think.” It is what the numbers actually say.

    Unless one want to claim that the exit polls were all “fake news” that CNN invented out of whole cloth.

    Hillary lost far more than Trump won. Hillary was not Obama. Other Republicans would have done better.

    Yes, 2020 will be a different story but Trump is likely to be even less popular among the electorate then than he was in 2016. For one thing, as Phil reminds us, America is becoming less white by the day, and also Trump’s strongest support is among the oldest Americans, who are also statistically the most likely to have died in a four year period. Those who will be first time voters in 2020 are probably going to skew Democrat, as they typically do regardless.

    If people think the economy is great, and Trump can effectively make the case for that instead of insulting the corpses of John McCain and Barbara Bush as he seems to prefer to do, that would be a plus for him and if the eventual Democrat nominee is able to be defined as unacceptable, he will have a chance, assuming it would also be a traditional two-party race.

    In 2016 voters wanted “change” and the election was mostly a referendum on Hillary, who was seen as the functional incumbent.

    Will the 2020 electorate want “change” still or will they say they are satisfied with the way things are going in the country? Either way, it will be more of a referendum on Trump, as he is now the actual incumbent.

  474. CG says:

    There’s nothing to ignore.

    Romney ran against Obama (an actual incumbent)

    Trump ran against Hillary (and incumbent parties almost never win three times in a row)

    Romney was far more favorable with his electorate than Trump was with his (and won a higher percent nationwide)but more significantly , Obama was *far far far far* more popular than Hillary was.

    Open elections in which a new President is chosen almost always have higher turnouts, which explains that portion, and while Trump was able to dominate among sectors of the electorate, all of the data indicates that anybody who was Hillary’s opponent should have done even better.

  475. Wes says:

    You apparently missed my point, SDC. The argument for Trump was that he’s won every election he’s been in. He’s been in one. I brought up Magnuson as an example of a pol with a long record of political victories who nonetheless ultimately lost. I explicitly stated I was making the comparison to show previous political victories do not necessarily guarantee future ones.

    Maybe actually read and comprehend the point I’m making rather than going off on some ancillary tangent in an attempt to counter what I say in the future.

  476. CG says:

    We can also point to various counties/districts across the country, most of which tended to be upscale and highly educated, and show how Trump ran significantly *behind* Romney’s 2012 totals and even behind McCain’s 2008 totals.

    It definitely worked both ways in 2016.

    Then we can also see how many of those suburban Congressional districts in 2018 went even further in rejecting Trump and more towards supporting a Democrat.

  477. mnw says:

    OMG… the corree-troll hour is here again.

  478. NYCmike says:

    NOT ONE PERSON is guaranteeing a Trump victory, Wes.

    You, on the other hand, are guaranteeing a Trump defeat.

  479. NYCmike says:

    “Open elections in which a new President is chosen almost always have higher turnouts, which explains that portion, and while Trump was able to dominate among sectors of the electorate, all of the data indicates that anybody who was Hillary’s opponent should have done even better.”

    -You have said this before as well.

    Romney’s political instincts s*ck. He thought Obama could be defeated, but then let him off the canvas instead of piling on until the last hour.

    Trump ran for President of the United States, like Obama did.

    Romney ran as himself, a good person, and lost.

    Let that be a lesson, O Sanctimonious One!

  480. CG says:

    NYC, you have admitted on here, that had Trump been the 2012 nominee, he would have lost to Obama by far more than Romney did.

    And I will theorize that had Romney been the 2016 nominee, he would have beaten Hillary by a far wider margin than Trump did, including a popular vote victory.

  481. CG says:

    The conventional wisdom from 2012 is that Obama insured his win late in the game not because Romney eased up on him (although Hurricane Sandy and your boy Chris Christie throwing Romney under the bus changed the dynamics of the campaign)but because voters felt that Romney was being *too* harsh on Obama and squishy undecided voters were afraid that their friends and relatives would think they were racist if they voted against Obama.

  482. CG says:

    Firstly, during the final 2012 Presidential debate, I was about the only one on here that suggested Romney should have been more forceful. At that debate, both campaigns acted like Romney was five points ahead and he probably was that night.

    Is there something other than that though? How exactly did Romney “let Obama off the canvas?” I am not sure I get it.

    Should he have talked about a birth certificate?

  483. NYCmike says:

    Stop theorizing and trying to revise history, and just answer these questions:

    What year is it?

    Do you want a socialist to become President?

  484. Wes says:

    You’re lying, Mikey. Both Dblaikie and Phoenixrisen have declared Trump is a lock for reelection.

  485. Wes says:

    Marv also has declared Trump is guaranteed to win reelection.

  486. NYCmike says:

    No, I am not lying.

    If they have guaranteed a Trump 2020 victory, I have not seen it.

  487. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    492. What do you base your claim of that being the “conventional wisdom” on? What is your source?

  488. Wes says:

    Well, then maybe you should work on boosting your IQ past -875,000, Mikey. You really are one of the stupidest people ever to post on this blog.

    I mean, when Phoenix in particular says Dems “don’t have a snowball’s chance in Hell against Trump” that’s about as close to a guarantee of a Trump victory as possible.

  489. NYCmike says:

    “Well, then maybe you should work on boosting your IQ past -875,000, Mikey.”

    🙂

    Go take some meds.

  490. NYCmike says:

    “You really are one of the stupidest people ever to post on this blog.”

    -“CG” has called me Fredo……yet we all have one vote.

    Once again, the wisdom of the Founding Fathers astounds me!

  491. Wes says:

    I suggest ginkgo biloba, Mikey. It boosts cognition. You need a massive amount of help with that.

  492. NYCmike says:

    🙂

  493. NYCmike says:

    Wes reminds me of MD before his fall…..amazing how damaging a 4 foot plunge can be!

  494. lisab says:

    It is inconceivable to think that this electorate would have deemed a different Republican more unfavorable or less qualified than Trump.
    ———–

    you keep using that word

    i do not think that word means what you think it means

  495. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/trump-planning-to-dish-dirt-and-settle-scores-in-post-presidency-memoir/

    -“Barack Obama’s will likely eclipse that, should he ever finish his, and Donald Trump’s is sure to be a runaway bestseller as well.”

    Dubya took under 2 years from leaving office for his book to come out, and it sold like hotcakes.

    Obama already got paid $65 million, but no book yet.

    Trump will sell the cr*p out of his once he gets to that point, hopefully in like late 2025, just in time for President Pence’s First Christmas celebration.

  496. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    506. “It is inconceivable.”

    To some people it is inconceivable, as is the fact that Mueller did not find Russian collusion. Being inconceivable does not make it untrue.

  497. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    We all know what the underlying cause of global warming is — toxic masculinity.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZH4S3ISJ5M

    In watching the video, it is conceivable that Beto is not infected by toxic masculinity.

  498. Phil says:

    Saw that, Mike. Would bring the popular vote compact to 207 electoral votes – 63 short of doing an end around to the Constitution. Once they reach 270 it’s over. It’s over at some point anyway with the demographic changes. Once Texas flips Republicans aren’t gong to win the electoral college any more than they will win the popular vote. Leftist one party rule on a national basis ala California – and with it national California like policies. Lots to look forward to.

  499. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    512. Add to that allowing anyone to vote, without proof of citizenship, and reducing the voting age to 16, and the leftist dream of a socialist state becomes a reality.

  500. Phil says:

    Well, it certainly has worked out that way in California.

    Reagan looks down upon his state and just shakes his head.

  501. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Politics runs in cycles. Lets not forgot the radicals of the 1960s and 1970s thought an Age of Aquarius leftist state was on the way. Then Reagan got elected and that fantasy ended. As millennial get older, and other demographic groups realize that socialism does not work (many already understand that from their experience living elsewhere), I could see a conservative reaction. In the early 20th century, many thought the mass of immigrants from places like Ireland and Italy would result in a leftist takeover. The descendants of these demographic groups are now looked at as being conservative.

  502. Phil says:

    Beto
    Castro
    Warren
    Sanders
    Harris

    Democratic candidates on the record supporting reparations for blacks.

    I will add to the list as the rest of the Democratic dominos fall.

  503. Phil says:

    Sorry, LEGAL immigrants from Ireland and Italy readily assimilated into American culture and tradition and were encouraged to by both political parties to do so. We now have one major political party today which is encouraging just the opposite. It’s the party of identity politics and they consider the Balkanization of America to be to their advantage politically. They are doing everything they can to make sure immigrants do not assimilate.

    Totally different ball game today. Apples and oranges difference unfortunately. God help us.

  504. mnw says:

    Phil

    The OH GOP needs to wake up & bat that thing down.

    This is an existential issue, like immigration, & they are intertwined.

  505. Phil says:

    Agree completely.

  506. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    518. Up through 1924, immigrating to the U.S. pretty much involved showing up at Ellis Island on a ship (although Chinese were restricted). Tens of millions did it. There was tension over immigration; groups like the Ku Klux Klan targeted them; and friction developed, such as with the Irish settling in Boston. I don’t think you can look at the past with rose colored glasses.

    I live in a building where Anglos make up less than half of the residents; everyone seems to be assimilating just fine. A lot of the people from other countries I know came here to serve in the U.S. military. Have to also say, those who come from other countries often have a work ethic that is does not exist with younger American born youth.

  507. Phil says:

    I stand by what I said regarding the modern day Democratic Party. They have no desire whatsoever to see immigrants assimilate into American society and culture. Learn English? Hell no. You’re taking away their heritage and undermining their culture and identity. Can’t do that. The left would much prefer them to come to America legally or illegally – it doesn’t matter to them which way – and become part of their coalition of “victims”. Plays right into their identity politics. Assimilation undermines victimhood…and victimhood is the core of the Democratic Party. The more victims the more Democrats.

  508. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    522. Phil, I totally agree with you. It is complete pandering. Thankfully, I believe a lot of the successful new immigrants see through it and are better than that.

  509. Bitterlaw says:

    The prior immigrants and current immigrants are identical in their main motivation – life in their home country sucked. I am not advocating open borders but let’s not pretend that earlier generations assimilated immediately.

    The Irish and Italians refused to assimilate when it came to religion and the dominant Protestant culture despised them for it for decades. They largely attended Catholic schools to keep their identity rather than assimilate on that issue.

  510. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It is the dumb f— coastal Anglo millennials who are lazy and entitled who I find particularly irritating. As someone from China once said to me — they seem to think not having to work is a civil right.

  511. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I have friend who is part Anglo part/Asian. He is a hard worker. He told me it was because of his “Vietnamese work ethic”

  512. Phil says:

    San Diego, I agree that first generation immigrants are often hard working with a strong work ethic. They are assets to the nation. In fact, in most cases I’d hire an immigrant over a lazy ass entitled millennial any day. Of course, I want them here legally. When I was teaching I didn’t have many Asians, but most of the ones I had in class were really smart and, more importantly, really applied themselves. None felt entitled. They are no doubt successful in life and are solid contributors.

    Democrats would absolutely prefer immigrants who aren’t interesting in assimilation. They want a permanent underclass who feel they are being given the short end of the stick. Hey are easier to manipulate. Convince them along with blacks, other minorities, gays, women that America is keeping them down. Like you, I would like to believe those born outside the US would see through the left’s game.

  513. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    527. “Democrats would absolutely prefer immigrants who aren’t interesting in assimilation. They want a permanent underclass who feel they are being given the short end of the stick.”

    This is what has happen in California. I am also hoping that immigrants see through this game. In San Diego, Asians are doing well in biotech and other fields. Average Asian income is actually higher than that of Anglos. Asians vote Republican by the same percentage as Anglos. Latinos who are involved in business also are trending Republican. As new immigrants realize they are being used, like past European immigrants, their politics will change.

  514. Tgca says:

    Once Trump wins over the lesbians, he will be re-elected in a landslide.

  515. sandiegocitizen says:

    An interesting fact:

    “Indian Americans are the richest ethnic group in the United States, earning a median income of $100,547 in 2013, according to data from the U.S. Census Bureau. Compare that to $51,939, which was the median income for all Americans during the same period.”

  516. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Phil
    It appears that your girlfriend, Wendy “Abortion Barbie” Davis will run for Congress in TX in CD-21 against Chip Roy(R). Can she win?

  517. Tgca says:

    MAGA!
    MAGA!!
    MAAAAAAAAGAAAAAAAA!!!

  518. Bitterlaw says:

    I am coaching basketball and softball. Last night y girls 6/7th grade team won 32-9. They could easily have scored 50. The games are two 20 minute periods. In the last 10 minutes, I had them bring it up sloooooow and passa lot. No shots in the last 5 minutes. The girls fell back inside the 3 point arc on defense. The other team still could not score. It was not fun to watch.

    Today, my 7/8th grade softball team will probably get blown out.

  519. jason says:

    Andrew Sullivan’s take on Buttigieg.

    For one, I learned Buttigieg is gay.

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/04/is-pete-buttigieg-a-transformational-candidate.html

  520. Bitterlaw says:

    I wonder if health conscious TGca has washed down a pound of sugar with a 1/2 gallon of orange juice.

  521. jason says:

    We can also point to various counties/districts across the country, most of which tended to be upscale and highly educated, and show how Trump ran significantly *behind* Romney’s 2012 totals and even behind McCain’s 2008 totals.”

    Zzzzz…. but Romney didn’t win did he?

    Everyone knows Trump under performed Romney in a lot of suburban counties and in fact a lot of states like Texas.

    But that is leaving out more than half of the equation, which is that Trump over performed Romney in a lot of other places WHERE IT COUNTED.

    Here is where Trump won the election:

    Luzerne Co. PA

    2012 Obama 64,307
    Romney 58,325

    2016 Trump 78,688
    Hillary 52,451

    That is a huge swing, and the reason is Trump, not Hillary.

    You this across hundreds of traditional Dem blue collar counties across the country, and this was due to Trump’s strength in these areas, it wasn’t as Corey claims, just because Hillary was a bad candidate.

    No other R would have come close to these kind of numbers in these counties.

    Of course, Corey knows this, he just can’t bring himself to give Trump credit for anything, so he makes it just about Hillary.

  522. jason says:

    I wonder if health conscious TGca has washed down a pound of sugar with a 1/2 gallon of orange juice.”

    He washed it down with an organic marshmallow butterscotch smoothie.

  523. jason says:

    Tgca’s dog are used to the routine.

    Tgca gets out of bed, heads for the kitchen and eats half a pound each of glucose, fructose and sucrose and then does 6 quick shots of organic maple syrup.

    Then he tears around the house for an hour screaming MAGA, MAGAAAAAAA, MAGAAAAAAA until his blood sugar spikes down from 980.

  524. Tgca says:

    Jadon did not know Mayor Butt was gay? O Dios mio. This is what happens when you run with llamas and the Amish.

    Andrew Sullivan is a narcissistic Trump hater and the way he props Mayor Butt up is typical of many gay or AA commentary writers promoting folks based on orientation or skin color to sell their agenda. Soon you will hear many of the looney left arguing it’s time America had a gay POTUS.

    I could care less what Mayor Butt’s sexual orientation is or his happily married life or his education or whether he served in the military or if he’s on Grindr chatting with Michael about the appeal of salmon-colored jackets.

    I want to know his positions…political positions that is and what he thinks on key issues important to the nation.

    If he’s an ABORTION lover or for open borders or for an expanding welfare state or trapping minorities in bad schooling policies to protect teacher unions or doing away with the electoral college, he doesn’t interest me at all no matter how much Andrew and his ilk try to convince us he’s a transformational JFK or Obama-like cult figure we should embrace.

    It’s interesting that the pic of him in the article claims he was in West Hollywood fundraising but Sullivan tries yo make him out to be a Midwesterner unlike coastal elites.. That smacks of leftist gay agenda to me. West Hollywood is to gays what Berkeley is to the radical left so why does Mayor Butt need to go to Gay Mecca to fundraiser if he’s a non-coastal elite?

  525. jason says:

    I had them bring it up sloooooow and passa lot. No shots in the last 5 minutes.”

    Bitter just doens’t have the killer instinct, and is unfortunately succumbing to the “everyone wins” BS.

    As a Republican who believes in a merit based society, he should have shown the kids it is a competitive world, and its not fair for the losing team to think they only lost 32-9 if they should have lost 75-14.

    Humiliation is part of life and we should not shy away from it.

  526. Tgca says:

    539

    Jadon is partially correct. I only run around the house screaming MAGA because my older dog is losing her hearing so she needs to hear how great Trump is.

  527. jason says:

    I think Buttigieg is the type of DEM we don’t want running against Trump.

    I understand Sullivan’s piece is an infomercial puff piece.

    I picked him as a contender when he was at 1%, now he is at 15% at Predictit.

  528. Tgca says:

    Jadon is going on about Fake Breakfast. I’ve only had water this AM and a handful of Organic sprouted pumpkin seeds with sea salt.

    …but I do plan to do some eggs and cheese soon.

  529. jason says:

    So if Buttigieg wins we will have a first husband after all, and it won’t be Bill Clinton?

  530. jason says:

    Organic sprouted pumpkin seeds”

    I had fried scrapple with a side of slab bacon, corned beef hash and a ham and mushroom omelet, very healthy Paleo meal.

    But that was hours ago, already thinking of lunch.

  531. Tgca says:

    Mayor Butt is in a tight spot. If he runs, he will have to push away the radical left gay agenda to attract Midwest voters. If he ostracized the gay mafia, they will turn on him along with the MSM.

    Mayor Butt is not gonna attract middle of the road folks with celebs like Rosie, RuPaul, and every gay celeb endorsing him and reminding folks that his biggest cheerleaders are the Hollywood-like elites that mock and hate midwesterners for who they are…and that’s even before those on the left start attacking him for his white male privilege.

    So unless he rebuts their politics and moves to the center, he’s gonna have a hard time me thinks.

  532. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason’s need to humiliate 12 year old girls concerns me. I would expect better from an A-hole.

    My team is playing in the Spring League of the neighboring town. The other town has many Jewish residents. One of the girls was wearing a skirt that was below the knee. I assume that she is Orthodox.

  533. Tina says:

    The jebots May have a new Drat candidate for President:

    Russsian Truther, Eric Swallwwll.

  534. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This is really embarrassing for Ocasio-Cortez. It’s cringeworthy! If she wants to speak “Southern”, she should spend some time here in rural NC.

    I do not follow her antics closely, but she acts like the Make A Wish Foundation granted her wish to be a Congresswoman for a short time.

    https://twitchy.com/dougp-3137/2019/04/06/aoc-vs-hillary-who-wore-the-pandering-fake-southern-accent-better-you-make-the-call/

  535. Phil says:

    531

    Sheep, Davis would be an underdog. The incumbent, Roy only won by three points. Davis is counting on the fact that a good chunk of the district includes Austin. The fact that Democrats came up short even with the Beto turnout surge doesn’t bode well for her. Trump carried the district by nine points.

  536. Tgca says:

    Sheeple

    Stop being a southern elitist snob!

    Sometimes when we’re with our people, our linguistic roots surface unintentionally. That’s just being genuine without worrying about how people judge you me thinks.

    When I was a lil half-breed Puerto Rican-white trash welfare suckin’ yoot growing up in the northern ward in the beautiful city of Newark NJ, I used to have a genuine southern slanted northern ghetto accent being a product of the excellent Newark EDUMACATION system. I spoke with grace and charm using words and phrases like:

    dis
    dat
    baffroom
    dumber
    Is dat my baby pitcha?
    dawg
    wawder
    cawfee
    soder
    Yo!
    “you tawkin’ to me?”
    give me a quawder forda parking metah
    You motha f*kkah!
    Whaddya mean I cant buy cigarettes with food stamps?

  537. Wes says:

    Buttigieg (Buddha-jedge) won’t even be our first gay President if elected. James Buchanan already holds that distinction.

  538. Wes says:

    Two of Bitterlaw’s political heroes—Bob Menendez and Phil Murphy—are bow criticizing increased commuter fees. Of course they’re criticizing them because New York imposes them on areas used by New Jersey commuters to fund Andy Cuomo’s 40% pay raise, but, hey, it’s a start:

    https://www.northjersey.com/media/cinematic/video/3313124002/gov-phil-murphy-sen-bob-menendez-critical-of-ny-congestion-pricing-plan/

  539. Bitterlaw says:

    I wonder how many of Wes’ emotionally damaged conquests chose abortion rather than have his child.

  540. Bitterlaw says:

    I wonder what Wes’ political hero – Kay Hagan – is up to these days. She was his Senator.

  541. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Ok, I will bit — what qualifies the mayor of South Bend, Indiana to be president? Are there any actions in the private or public sector that stand out?

  542. lisab says:

    what qualifies the mayor of South Bend, Indiana to be president?
    ————————-

    well according to half-truth

    it would be better to have him than trump

  543. Wes says:

    You’re a bit behind on current events, Bitter. Hagar left the Senate on 1-3-15. Thom Tillis—for whom I enthusiastically voted—defeated and replaced her in the Senate.

    In contrast, Menendez—whose corruption and rape of underage sex slaves both you and New Jersey are fully aware of despite not caring at all—is Senator for life in that gargantuan Sewer you want to own property in.

  544. lisab says:

    ‘I am from the Bronx. I act & talk like it’: AOC denies she ‘affected’ her accent when talking to predominantly black crowd, as the freshman Democrat sparks Twitter debate over whether she is ‘real’

  545. Wes says:

    Number of NC Senators caught up in scandal while serving during my lifetime: 0.

    Number of NJ Senators caught up in scandal during my lifetime: 3.

    Harrison Williams, Bob Torricelli, and Bob Menendez are all people I wouldn’t even hold a door leading into a restaurant for because of the stench of corruption surrounding them. Bitterlaw would perfectly happy with their representing him in the Senate.

  546. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    558. “well according to half-truth it would be better to have him than trump.”

    Half truth will swoon over him. He has a resume similar to Obama. Went to Harvard; can be consider a “community organizer” as a mayor. He pushed for traffic calming and roundabouts — clearly a progressive. His record is tarnished by his military service in Afghanistan. But he can apologize to the far leftists, and condemn the war. Anyone know which special interests are funding his campaign?

  547. lisab says:

    didn’t jesse helms fake a hate crime against himself?

    two people in maga hats stole his subway sandwich or something?

  548. Butterlaw says:

    How many abortions can be traced to Wes? He won’t answer.

    Wes knows I have no interest in wanting to be represented by New Jersey politicians. I live in Pennsylvania.

  549. Wes says:

    Oops. Bitterlaw would BE perfectly happy with their representing him in the Senate.

  550. Wes says:

    You always talk about how awesome a place New Jersey would be to own a beach house in, Bitter. You have a clear fetish for political corruption.

  551. Tgca says:

    MAGA!
    MAGA!!
    MAAAAAAAAAGAAAAAAAAA!!!

  552. lisab says:

    if trump loses in 2020,

    what is the ovah undah for the number of posts half truth will make on the first discussion thread aftah the election is called by david wissing.

    i say, 300 posts

  553. lisab says:

    and then thousands upon thousands of posts every day over the following eight years

  554. SusyQue says:

    Please pray for 22 missionary families that are to be executed by moslems in afganistan. Share or like this as fast as you can so that many Christians will pray.

    In Him

  555. lisab says:

    dont worry ssq

    now we have our own moslems in the usa

  556. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    570. ssq, the claim that Afghanistan is going to execute 22 missionaries has been made for over a decade. It appears to be a hoax.

    What city or town are these supposed 22 missionaries located? Why would not Trump being doing something about it?

    Here is the hoax from 2016:

    “22 Christian Missionaries to be Executed by Afghani Islamists-Fiction!

    Summary of eRumor:
    A prayer request is circulating for 22 Christian missionary families who will be executed by Islamist Afghanis.
    The Truth:
    This prayer request for 22 Christian missionary families in Afghanistan has been circulating since 2009, but there’s never been any indication that it’s credible.
    The prayer request began circulating via SMS text message and email in November 2009. The messages simply read, “Please pray for 22 Christian missionary families that will be executed today in Afghanistan. Please spread to others fast.”
    We couldn’t find any mention of the 22 missionary families, or their execution, in any news reports or releases from Christian or human rights non-profit groups to verify that the families were actually in danger.
    Today, the prayer request occasionally resurfaces on discussion forums and social media, but it’s outdated and there’s no indication that it was credible to begin with.”

  557. CG says:

    Recent North Carolina Senator John Edwards was indicted not too long ago, for a situation that related to his having preyed on an emotionally vulnerable woman.

  558. CG says:

    Also, since Donald Trump does actually own property in New Jersey, everyone would have to agree he is even more complicit in crimes than Bitterlaw would be.

  559. CG says:

    While not Senators, two recent Republican Congressmen from North Carolina were literally engulfed in scandal this week.

    Robin Hayes was indicted for bribery and Charles Taylor saw the bank he owns in Russia lose its license for money laundering.

  560. lisab says:

    you do understand that wes is basically on your side regarding your president?

  561. CG says:

    I’ve said nothing about Wes. Just pointing out some additional facts and defending Bitterlaw because i am all about fairness.

    Jussie Smollott is basically on my side regarding Trump too and I think he should have been locked up.

  562. Wes says:

    What Edwards did related to his 2008 presidential run. That occurred three years after he left office.

    Hayes lost re-election a decade ago and is about to end his tenure working for the NCGOP. Unfortunately Republicans haven’t been able to force him from his position but at least have ensured he won’t be back after the summer.

    Taylor lost re-election in 2006 and has been a nonentity in politics since.

    That’s not quite the same as being a sitting Senator caught up in Abscam or any of the other scandals Sewer State Senators are famous for.

    It doesn’t excuse their actions, but each of the men you cited is long gone from elective office. New Jersey keeps sending its crooks back to office regardless of corruption.

  563. Wes says:

    Meanwhile, despite a hung jury in a case of clear corruption, Menendez won re-election five months ago by 10 points.

  564. CG says:

    So, they have to be incumbents at the time of the crime for Bitterlaw to be complicit?

  565. CG says:

    I guess it makes some sense since Bitterlaw used to hold me responsible for the performance of Jay Cutler on the football field.

    (the two Sundays I ever saw Cutler play in person and could possibly affect the outcome via my cheering, he was spectacular)

  566. lisab says:

    ummmmmmm … you are not at all about fairness

    not even a little bit

    it is one of the reasons why people do not like you

  567. Tina says:

    This guy continues to get more idiot awards.

    Senator Mitt Romney
    @SenatorRomney
    · Apr 5
    Border security should not be a partisan issue. There is a real crisis at our southern border. We must put aside the partisan bickering and do the right thing for our national security.

  568. CG says:

    One of the reasons I do not like you lisa, is that you do even thinly attempt to hide your racism anymore.

    Oh well. It’s not like you will be voting for Trump anyway, so we will always have that in common.

  569. Wes says:

    What’s wrong with what Romney said, Tina?

  570. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    583. Tina, what part of the Romney quote did you disagree with? It makes perfect sense to me. Shouldn’t border security be a non-partisan issue?

  571. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    584. “One of the reasons I do not like you lisa, is that you do even thinly attempt to hide your racism anymore.”

    So how is Lisab racist?

  572. CG says:

    Post 571 here is the most recent example. It was very apparent in the way she talked about the Somalian-Americans in Minnesota. Judge for yourself, as I have.

  573. mnw says:

    Chicon

    I am the world’s biggest Hawks fan tonight! Come on, Kane! Let’s go Toews!

  574. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    588, Sorry, but I don’t see Post 571 grounds for calling someone a racist, nor concerns expressed from radicals among the Somali-American community. Radical Islam in the U.S. is a valid concern.

  575. lisab says:

    we have a lot of somalian americans in southern minnesota

    you can see them in every big business

  576. lisab says:

    the somalians, in minnesota near me at least, dont seem terribly radical

    i am sure they would love to be radical, but they are too busy working

  577. Tina says:

    What is Quittens proposing to do about it?

    What will the CoC allow him to do?

  578. lisab says:

    half truth loves to call people racist

    it is part of the dem troll playbook ?

  579. mnw says:

    Lisa 594

    You said it. What a smug, preening, ignorant lil troll.

  580. lisab says:

    romney likely thinks it is trump that is not being bipartisan on the wall

    he would likely support open borders

    cheap labour

  581. Tina says:

    It is raaaaacist to defend the border from illegals.

  582. Tina says:

    Quittens voted against the national emergency declaration.

    Yet, admits there is a crisis,

    What an idiot,

  583. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    In San Diego we have a Little Mogadishu populated by Somalis. There is major friction between African immigrants and the African-American community. Somalis are socially conservative, and object to the alcohol and narcotics. They are also a patriarchal society, which offends a lot of African-American women. I have African-American women I know who rail against Somalis.

    A major problem in the local high school is the Somalis population breaks down into several clans and ethnic groups; each have their own gangs and there is fighting among them constantly.

    Lisab, do they have that type divisions in Minnesota?

  584. lisab says:

    the somalians here are rather conservative. however, not as patriarchal as say the saudis i have known. the women wear head scarves of various types, but

    they drive
    go to school & college
    work

    there is a problem with some groups and female circumcision in minnesota, but i don’t know any closely enough to know the details. it is not like i would ask.

  585. Tina says:

    You are the chief Leo. You have resources that can and should be utilized. In fact, you may want to water board and make Guantanamo a bit more fuller.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    · 7h
    …. against something I knew never existed, Collusion with Russia (so ridiculous!) – No Obstruction. This Russia Hoax must never happen to another President, and Law Enforcement must find out, HOW DID IT START?

  586. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    598. Tina, Romney has taken a hard-line regarding immigration in the past. As stated below. By the way, unlike Trump, I am not aware of Romney ever hiring any illegal immigrants at his businesses? You know, if business owners like Trump did not hire illegal immigrants, it would make controlling it a lot easier.

    “Romney added that his Republican bona fides extended to the ongoing debate over immigration, pointing to the fact that on the 2012 campaign trail he opposed the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program rescinded by Trump last year.

    “I’m also more of a hawk on immigration than even the president,” Romney said, according to The Daily Herald.”

  587. lisab says:

    from what i can see they do not hang out with african americans that were born here, but i dont see them excluding them more than others

    they hang out with other somalians for the most part

    but at work for example, one of the paraprofessionals is a somalian. she gets along at work with everyone.

  588. Tina says:

    You must have forgotten about the illegals hired at Romney’s home for lawn maintenance.

  589. Tina says:

    I guess today the jebots/drats are going full defense of ms-13.

  590. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    603. A 7-11 few blocks away has a lot of Somali on their staff. They have to deal with the homeless on a constant basis, including the ones crazy and screaming. The workers are very pleasant. The police hang out their a lot to get coffee; and they are all one a first name basis.

  591. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    604. Yikes! I may have used the same ones. However, the ones I use live across the border and come over each day to work, so likely have a work permit.

  592. lisab says:

    interesting trivia

    somalian women are generally considered very attractive, with several top models in the fashion world

  593. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Lisab, sounds like Minneapolis has a Somali gang problem too.

    http://tennesseestar.com/2019/01/02/minneapolis-little-mogadishu-sees-56-percent-increase-in-violent-crimes-caused-by-somali-gangs/

    Why can’t they be like those wonderful European immigrants, the Italians and Irish, they never had a gang problem… of never mind.

  594. Tgca says:

    579

    What does the manhood of a jury have to do with Menedez re-election in NJ?

  595. Tgca says:

    Tina is right on Romney. If this fool did indeed state there is a crisis at the border and comment it’s a security risk then why did he vote to condemn Trump’s action on the border? Typical reason why Romney can NEVER be trusted. It goes back to his days as MA gov where he will say ANYTHING to be in power. …and then how he humiliated himself by groveling for SOS position under Trump. The only sad thing is the people of UT could not find a better person to represent their state. I get it he will support the GOP on 80% of things so it’s a win for the GOP but don’t be surprised if he doesn’t come through when needed if it suits his needs. Total scum who lacks a backbone me thinks.

  596. lisab says:

    sdc,

    the twin cities probably do have some gang issues, but i dont live anywhere close by, do i would not know

  597. lisab says:

    where is jason,

    i want all the points today ?

  598. Tina says:

    Muh Avocado….

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    3h
    We have redeployed 750 agents at the Southern Border’s specific Ports of Entry in order to help with the large scale surge of illegal migrants trying to make their way into the United States. This will cause traffic & commercial delays until such time as Mexico is able to use….

  599. Bitterlaw says:

    My softball team lost 21-11. If you only count earned runs, 15-11.

  600. Tgca says:

    MAGA!
    MAGA!!
    MAAAAAAAAAAGAAAAAAAAAA!!!

  601. Tgca says:

    OMG! I finally figured out why I’m a pushy, in-your-face, obnoxious, gay man. It’s my dad’s fault! I knew there was a reason and it wasn’t my fault.

    Check out this article on how the future is bleak for boys and men. I’ve been debating for years we are destroying the male culture and sending our boys down the wrong path.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2019/04/07/males-risk-boy-crisis-identity-america-future-addiction-suicide-column/3331366002/

  602. Tgca says:

    Here’s the opposite end of the spectrum. This does not surprise me. Like our young boys, elderly are also subject to abuse, especially elderly men. This is heart-breaking. To go through a long life and then be abused where you can’t defend yourself, especially by those trusted to care for you. It’s sad.

    We must stop this! I’m concerned for some of our old people here at HHR like Jadon and Walt.

    https://www.newsmax.com/health/health-news/elder-abuse-increase/2019/04/05/id/910375/

  603. Tgca says:

    Yum! Just had 2 eggs smothered with white cheddar cheese and an iced blonde coffee roast with unsweetened chocolate almond milk. Now that’s a manly keto breakfast. Fookin’ eh!

    Jadon hardest hit!

  604. mnw says:

    Tg 619

    I’m older than either of them.

    As for elder abuse, I trust my kids. If they are brought up the right way, I think you can have confidence in doing that.

    I’ve also been VERY careful to teach them how to handle their personal finances. They are just now old enuf to drive, but… they are already approaching financial literacy.

    How is your back doing, btw?

  605. mnw says:

    Tg

    P.S. I also have long term care insurance, which includes in-home care. That should ease some of the “stress on caregivers” which the article mentions, hopefully.

    My kids will still need to keep watch on the paid healthcare workers, of course. As I did for my mother, who died at age 94. Constant monitoring is a necessity.

  606. Tgca says:

    Mnw

    I is good! How you be?

    Back and neck is fine. I’m going back for follow-up Dr visits and scans in a few weeks. No real pain when doing most activities but still intermittent nerve damage and occasional spasms, as expected which is probably now my permanent state so if you stand next to me and my hand swings up and smacks you in the head, it ain’t my fault.

    I can pretty much walk fine and briskly for short periods of time without problems too. The hard part is bending over and slight limitations using my neck in but that was expected with multi-level fusions. Getting up and down or in and out of a car is hard though so that’s where my cane comes in. Oh well, poop happens.

    So all is good as long as I don’t over do it I can lead a normal and FABULOUSLY gay life style as a MAGA supporter.

    How’s your knee?

    How’s your pooch too?

  607. Tgca says:

    Wow! Your mom lived to 94. That’s great! I hope it was a good long healthy happy life. I could not imagine living that long. I think I will check out of life with Bitter by 70 or so. I have no desire to be old, feeble, and wrinkled with all my friends dead and no heirs. My pooches will be long gone too by then.

  608. mnw says:

    Tg

    I conclude your health report is more positive than negative, which is good to hear.

    I’m closing in on 73 now. As one passes 70, the concept of continuing to live sounds a LOT better than it did when I was 35 or 45! — wrinkles & losing old friends notwithstanding.

    My mother had an excellent quality of life, thanks very much for asking. Of course, she outlived all her loved ones except me. That sort of comes with the territory if u live into your mid-90’s.

    My dog is the love of my life. I’m working with a shock collar. Her previous owner taught her her name, & figured that was enough. My knee is fine. I’m glad I had the replacement. I don’t walk very well, but so what? The idea is just to KEEP walking.

  609. mnw says:

    I thought it was funny that when Mick Jagger needed major heart surgery, he hopped a plane for New York. No NHS for him! Seems like every Brit opts out of NHS when a real crisis comes– if they can afford to do so.

    Jagger’s politics are leftish from what I’ve read, although Keith Richards’ are not.

  610. Wes says:

    Looking up the Stones, I don’t get a clear view of their political views though they don’t seem vociferously liberal. I’m guessing they’re probably somewhere around the median of British politics.

  611. Tgca says:

    73? OMG! I don’t think I ever met anyone that old. 🙂

    Your pooch is the love of your life? Hmm…I guess the wifey and kids may not like to hear that.

    A shock collar? I guess someone is hard to train.

  612. Wes says:

    Walt is 4.5 billion give or take, Tg. He’s outlasted everything from dinosaurs to Megalodons.

  613. Tina says:

    F. Mulehead is no saint, contrary to the Rinos claiming otherwise.

    Nick Short
    @PoliticalShort
    ·
    Dec 18, 2018
    Thoughts on #Flynn: Intel agencies leaked Flynn’s phone call, violated interrogation procedures, discouraged use of a lawyer, overruled agents who said Flynn didn’t lie, bankrupted Flynn, and coerced a guilty plea out of him for answering a question “I don’t remember.”

  614. Tina says:

    The socialist son has problems with the 2 nominees for Fed governor. I wonder if the. Socialist son realizes that Cain was a former Fed chairman? Ahoy!

    Bill Kristol
    @BillKristol
    · 3h
    In 2005, many of us who’d voted for George W. Bush the year before opposed his nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court, and we prevailed. Which Trump supporters will speak up against the (perhaps more egregious) nominations of Stephen Moore and Herman Cain to the Fed?

  615. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    54m
    Dems Having Trouble Recruiting Quality Candidates for Senate in 2020 (link: https://pjmedia.com/trending/dems-having-trouble-recruiting-quality-candidates-for-senate-in-2020/) pjmedia.com/trending/dems-… #Trending via
    @pjmedia_com

    Note Udall not running in NM, Jones likely a loss for them. On our side, Gardner not looking good, and McSally will have another fight.

  616. Wes says:

    I’ve noted that before, Tina. Gardner does have a singular advantage: All of his declared opponents are at best B-listers.

    That may or may not be enough to carry him to victory depending on how well Trump performs in the state .

  617. Wes says:

    To recap my current Senate projections:

    Solid R Hold-

    AK
    ID
    WY
    MT
    SD
    NE
    OK
    TX
    LA
    AR
    KY
    TN
    MS
    SC
    WV
    ME

    Likely R Hold-

    KS
    IA
    GA
    NC

    Likely R Pickup-

    AL

    Tossup-

    AZ
    CO
    NH

    Likely D Hold-

    NM
    MI
    VA

    Solid D Hold-

    OR
    MN
    IL
    DE
    NJ
    RI
    MA

  618. Wes says:

    I consider NH to be a Tossup because Sununu has polled well against Shaheen and recently expressed an interest in running. If he declines I will move the race to Solid D Hold.

  619. lisab says:

    i am kinda surprised more tds people don’t get punched

  620. lisab says:

    i do predict such incidents will get worse as 2020 approaches

    some will undoubtably be staged

    others will be violent

  621. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    By the way, the position that Romney took on the border wall was also supported by Utah’s other senator, who is generally viewed as more right wing.

    SALT LAKE CITY — Utah’s Republican senators urged the Defense Department on Wednesday to reject shifting money away from military construction projects in the state to build President Donald Trump’s border wall.

    Sen. Mike Lee and Mitt Romney expressed “significant concerns” about diverting funds from “critical” military projects in Utah as a result of Trump’s national emergency declaration, “which we believe would undermine military capabilities that are essential to our national security strategy.”

  622. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw is almost 73 and has teenage children? Playa!

    He must walk around his house in pajamas and a smoking jacket like Hef.

  623. Tgca says:

    Did Mike Lee state there was a crisis at the border and there was a national security risk? If not, then ok. But that’s what Romney was quoted as saying so he is a moron for claiming there is a crisis and national security risk but voting against doing anything about it and hoping to wait for years until the Dems are willing to compromise.

    Well, I hope if any terrorists ever sneaks over the border, the Romney family are the 1st victims of the evil deeds since he is so patient to wait when he is aware of a crisis and national security risk. It’s called common sense and Romney lacks it, if he really thinks there is a crisis and national security risk but won’t support any action.

    His comments remind me of the Benghazi debacle. People know there’s a threat but they play it down for their own political benefit.

  624. Tgca says:

    Bitter all jealous of MNW smoking jacket. So sweaters are just not enough for him anymores. Sad.

  625. mnw says:

    Wes

    I read Keith Richard’s 650-page autobiography. He’s no liberal. (I skipped the technical parts about music– i.e., the sections with pages of musical notations.)

    Jagger has allowed his name to be used by liberal/left causes occasionally. I can’t recall specifics.

    Tg 628

    RE: pooch as love of my life:

    EX-wife! She could care less.

  626. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Since Robbie has not posted for several weeks, wanted to provide a short three second message from him on YouTube.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB6V5Zbj7DI

  627. lisab says:

    cnn: trump’s use of the term “witch hunt” offends witches

  628. lisab says:

    robbie and half-truth will both be back as soon as something bad happens to trump or the country — which they will blame on trump

  629. lisab says:

    trump has been rising on predictit, as biden has fallen

    trump now is given a 40% chance of winning in 2020

  630. Tgca says:

    New thread losahs!