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Buttigieg hits 3rd Place in IA and NH

We have a new poll from Saint Anselm College for the state of New Hampshire that shows Pete Buttigieg moving into third place among Democrats.

PRESIDENT – NEW HAMPSHIRE – DEM PRIMARY (Saint Anselm)
Joe Biden 23%
Bernie Sanders 16%
Pete Buttigieg 11%
Elizabeth Warren 9%
Kamala Harris 7%
Beto O’Rourke 6%
Cory Booker 4%
Amy Klobuchar 2%
John Delaney 1%
Kirsten Gillibrand 1%
Tulsi Gabbard 1%
John Hickenlooper 1%
Jay Inslee 0%

This poll was done April 3-8 among 698 registered primary voters. Meanwhile in Iowa, Monmouth University shows Buttigieg hitting there as well.

PRESIDENT – IOWA – DEM CAUCUS (Monmouth)
Joe Biden 27%
Bernie Sanders 16%
Pete Buttigieg 9%
Kamala Harris 7%
Elizabeth Warren 7%
Beto O’Rourke 6%
Amy Klobuchar 4%
Cory Booker 3%
Julián Castro 2%
John Delaney 1%
Kirsten Gillibrand 1%
Tim Ryan 1%
Eric Swalwell 1%
Andrew Yang 1%
Steve Bullock <1%
Bill de Blasio <1%
Tulsi Gabbard <1%
Jay Inslee <1%
Michael Bennet 0%
John Hickenlooper 0%
Terry McAuliffe 0%
Wayne Messam 0%
Seth Moulton 0%
Marianne Williamson 0%

Do they actually read off everyone of those names in each poll? This poll was done April 4-9 among 351 likely caucus goers.

Posted by Dave at 8:02 pm
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276 Responses to “Buttigieg hits 3rd Place in IA and NH”

  1. Wes says:

    This is the appropriate music for the Dems running for President:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1D5Sa2Yq-2g

  2. Tom says:

    Didn’t say first, so first!

  3. lisab says:

    corey says:

    … and you were deflating Jews in America with the specific instance of very rigid Orthodox Jews in Israel who now will have more political influence than ever before.

    There have been issues of personal safety for Jews (not to mention the assassination of a Prime Minister in 1995) in Israel because of the actions of extreme sects.
    ———————————

    jason was deflating jews?

  4. lisab says:

    imo this is the appropriate music for the Dems running for President:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9RUoExrTsg

    and if they win

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bzWSJG93P8

  5. Wes says:

    This is more likely to be the Dems’ theme when they beat Trump*:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gIbhpGcRlm0

    *because it’s from a movie about vampires who suck the life out of and zombify everything.

  6. lisab says:

    because it’s from a movie about vampires who suck the life out of and zombify everything.
    ———————————

    good call … similar to why i went with the theme from

    the empire strikes back

  7. lisab says:

    the last 85 half-truth posts of the last thread may be the most pathetic half-truth has ever been

    (on hhr)

  8. Tina says:

    Do not worry, drats. The “Rs” will help derail any such investigation of the investigators.

    Byron York
    @ByronYork
    ·
    12h
    Ferocious pushback after AG Barr said ‘spying did occur’ on Trump campaign during 2016 campaign. Only problem: It’s true. Link: ‘Barr is right; spying on Trump campaign did occur.’

  9. Tina says:

    Yikes, the rooster admitted on Faux news that somebody wore a wire while spying on trump.

    Jeff Carlson
    @themarketswork
    Gowdy: If you’re a law enforcement officer wearing a wire-which also happened in this case…What was the factual predicate for US govt to monitor the conversations & activities of 2 campaign officials?

    Wearing a wire?? Believe this is new.

    At ~2:20 markhttps://video.foxnews.com/v/6025338575001/#sp=show-clips …

    562
    4:50 PM – Apr 11, 2019

  10. Tina says:

    Maybe the “Rs” could point me to when FISA could be used for a “counter intelligence “ investigation.

    FISA=criminal activity

  11. NYCmike says:

    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2019/04/09/watch-no-one-problem-watching-man-get-beaten-pulled-gun/

    -The carnage continues…….NOPE!

    Good guy with a gun somehow makes things not so bad…..there is a lesson to be learned, but I think I need a lawyer to help me figure it out.

  12. Bitterlaw says:

    The Democrats should use this song.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J-gYJBsln-w

    Why? Because it is awesome.

  13. Bitterlaw says:

    I am sure that is a dig at me by NYC. Not sure why since I have always said people should buy as many guns as they want and I oppose new gun laws, I also am resigned to accept shootings of innocents will continue unabated.

  14. lisab says:

    bitterlaw thinks that is a good song

    i guess he is just a sensitive new age guy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYuDoXOOTrs

  15. Wes says:

    You could at least TRY to listen to good music, Bitter:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0gUyvyquLXQ

  16. Tgca says:

    MAGA!
    MAGA!!
    MAAAAAGAAAAA!!!

  17. Tina says:

    Herman Cain pulls his nomination thanks to “Rs” that refused to support them. I won’t name those folks here.

  18. Phil says:

    Georgetown University students overwhelmingly vote for a resolution calling for a $27 per semester slavery reparations fee.

    Brilliant. People who never owned slaves paying people who were never slaves. That ought to bring the country together.

    Insanity. I see Saint Mayor Pete has come out for some sort of reparations to “address the stain on our history”. Good luck running on that with rust belt white working voters. That will get those voters back in the Democratic fold. Brilliant. Right up there with late term abortion. All brought to you by your new and improved Democratic Party.

  19. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – I think the idea of reparations at this point is absurd. However, at least the students are paying their own money and not taking mine.

  20. Phil says:

    Well, bitter, you do have a point there. If they want to hand over their $$ let them knock themselves out. Obviously it’s worth it to them to help alleviate their white guilt. It’s nuts for sure, but as you say, as long as they don’t have their hands in our pockets more power to them.

  21. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – I don’t feel guilt about the past but I do feel rage at times. The treatment of the Tuskegee pilots when they returned from the war (forced to disembark from troop ships in segregated lines and not acknowledged in white media for years) was a disgrace.

  22. Phil says:

    Agree. I just don’t want anyone sending me a bill for it.

  23. Tina says:

    The Penguin said there was no spying on Trump in 2018.

    Now, the Penguin claims he is not sure.

    Penguin was the nsa Director under obumbler.

  24. mnw says:

    RAS is 49/50 today. First time below 50 in over a week, I think.

    Tina 10

    That’s not what I recall about FISA. I never had personal experience with it, altho I heard about it at seminars. I believe it was designed specifically for use against suspected agents of foreign powers. I may be wrong. I recall hearing that it was designed to AVOID the criminal standard in such cases.

  25. Phil says:

    The Washington Post reports the Trump administration discussed sending the illegals pouring over the border to sanctuary cities. Absolutely brilliant!

    LMAO

    Hey, you libs want them? You get them. I’d add Kentucky to the list so that Robbie can get his share. Wouldn’t want him to miss out doing his part to lend a helping hand.

  26. Waingro says:

    Left’s heads about to explode…

    Donald J. Trump
    ?
    Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump
    Following Following @realDonaldTrump
    More
    Due to the fact that Democrats are unwilling to change our very dangerous immigration laws, we are indeed, as reported, giving strong considerations to placing Illegal Immigrants in Sanctuary Cities only….

    11:38 AM – 12 Apr 2019
    2,912 Retweets 9,935 Likes ThumperAmerican KateMattjoan gravinaHelen LentzCarla GraciaSilvio MORO DainezAudrey GreeneBlackened
    2,314 replies 2,912 retweets 9,935 likes
    Reply 2.3K Retweet 2.9K Like 9.9K Direct message
    Cory MTweet text

    Donald J. Trump
    ?
    Verified account

    @realDonaldTrump
    8m8 minutes ago
    More
    ….The Radical Left always seems to have an Open Borders, Open Arms policy – so this should make them very happy!

  27. lisab says:

    NY Dems block bill expanding college tuition for Gold Star families after approving $27M in tuition aid for illegal aliens

  28. Tina says:

    I am triggered by the illegals being sent to amnesty cities.

    -jebot

  29. Chicon says:

    This sanctuary cities idea is a beauty. It’s the type of thing that is most attractive about Trump. He’s not afraid to call out the idiots.

  30. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Gallup has Trump’s approval/ disapproval at 45/51, respectively.

  31. lisab says:

    Herman Cain to Withdraw from Fed Board Consideration.

    Sens. Mitt Romney of Utah,
    Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,
    Cory Gardner of Colorado
    and
    Kevin Cramer of North Dakota

    have all said they would not support Cain, sinking any chance he would be confirmed by the Senate.

  32. lisab says:

    “I don’t think Herman Cain would be confirmed by the Senate, and I think the president would be wise to nominate someone who is less partisan and more experienced in the world of economics,” Romney said. “I would anticipate voting no if he were nominated.”

  33. NYCmike says:

    Wasn’t Herman Cain on the Federal Reserve in the 90’s?

  34. Wes says:

    All of that was true last year too, Chicon. How’d that work out?

  35. NYCmike says:

    Wes soooooooo wants to be right, especially after his embarrassing prediction in 2016.

  36. Tina says:

    Regarding Herman, yes, he was.

    Look at the 4 or 5 “Rs” that are against him.

    One is known as Quittens,

    Quittens has had a disastrous roll out as Senator.

    Not as big as a disaster as The Jebots in the house, however.

  37. Tina says:

    And this person was head of the Fib,

    He also plays no weasel games.

    @tomselliott
    · 21h
    James @Comey: “I’ve never thought of” electronic surveillance as “spying”

  38. Tina says:

    Are the “Rs” against Herman racist? I mean do they have any valid reasons why he is not qualified?

  39. Wes says:

    You mean my split prediction, Mikey—on which I was half right and half wrong?

    You really are incredibly stupid. Are you sure you’re not a Native West Virginian? They’re the only people I know to be capable of competing with your stupidity.

  40. Tina says:

    Yikes…

    ted

    Chuck Ross
    @ChuckRossDC
    ·
    5h
    EXCLUSIVE: FBI lawyer told Congress that bureau used Bruce Ohr as a contact to Christopher Steele in order to gain “clarity” into his “reliability.” This was *a month* after using Steele’s dossier in FISA, which claimed Steele was reliable. w/
    @lukerosiak

  41. NYCmike says:

    How I read #42:

    “You really are incredibly…….capable…….”

    The rest of it was just mean-spirited garbage from a guy (?) who needs to be right, at any cost, and can’t handle it when he isn’t.

  42. jason says:

    jason was deflating jews?”

    The problem with calling Corey “half-truth” is that it is way too generous.

    Somehow because I supported Netanyahu I am deflating jews in America?

    Of course, this is the same moron that has said voting for Trump means you support David Duke.

  43. NYCmike says:

    “I am sure that is a dig at me by NYC.”

    -Yes, I did use your “the carnage continues” to get in a little dig, but you can handle it.

  44. Wes says:

    44 just proves how stupid Mikey is.

  45. jason says:

    Frankly I think Trump can appoint a better name than Herman Cain.

    He just has too much baggage, and while that may be unfair to Cain, it’s a political consideration for Trump.

    IMO, it’s just not worth wasting that much political capital since there are many other qualified names.

  46. jason says:

    Are you sure you’re not a Native West Virginian?”

    Cash Cow, wes means no offense by this, it was purely directed at NYC.

    He has told me privately that he thinks you are smarter than the average bovine.

  47. lisab says:

    The problem with calling Corey “half-truth” is that it is way too generous.
    ———————————————

    yeah, i have mentioned that before too.

    but in your last “discussion” with him, he was unhinged. he may be mentally ill

  48. jason says:

    It’s possible. He remembers things I wrote (mostly incorrectly) 10 years ago and brings them up as fact, when they were probably wrong interpretation at the time and 10 years has not made them more accurate.

    His irrational defense of Jeb Bush’s failed campaign shows he really has not come to terms with the results of the 2016 primaries or the election. He really thinks a front runner with all the advantages Jeb had in terms of money, endorsements, name, and organization and only got 4 delegates after spending 200 million, ran a good campaign.

    I don’t know about mentally ill, but there is definitely a coping problem there.

  49. CG says:

    The “deflating” comment was part of a conversation I was having with NYCMike and not Transactionaljason.

    I said “deflated” instead of my intended word “conflated.”

    I will now go to serve my HHR grammar prison term for the rest of the weekend. Carry on.

  50. Tina says:

    Good answer Rubio.

    Manu Raju
    @mkraju
    Rubio on Trump calling Mueller probe “treason” and “attempted coup:” “I think he feels vindicated, and frankly, I know he’s very angry about what he’s been through … I imagine if I were accused of something like that I would be pretty angry myself.”

  51. Tina says:

    Happy hour in the Star Wars cantina

    Ilhan Omar
    @IlhanMN
    · 7h
    “The people — and the people who knocked these buildings down will hear all of us soon!” President George W. Bush

    Was Bush downplaying the terrorist attack?

  52. lisab says:

    I said “deflated” instead of my intended word “conflated.”

    I will now go to serve my HHR grammar prison term for the rest of the weekend.
    ————————————–

    that was a grammar mistake?

  53. jason says:

    that was a grammar mistake?”

    Well, Messy would have called it a “typo”.

  54. lisab says:

    new jersey strikes again

    Girlfriend sent home in taxi after threesome admits to police she set boyfriend’s house on fire, displacing 7

    A South Jersey woman charged with torching her boyfriend’s house and displacing seven people told police she set the blaze because she was upset following a threesome she had with him and a second woman.

    Young told police she was in a relationship with a man and that they had a sexual encounter with another woman on Saturday at his apartment.

    When it was over, he summoned a cab for Young, but remained at his apartment with the other woman.

    Young had been “going through a lot” and grew upset about her relationship, ultimately deciding to “burn his house down,” she told police.

    She purchased lighter fluid and matches from a gas station on Sunday and traveled to the house, where she emptied the entire contents of the Zippo lighter fluid container on and under the front door. She lit a match, set a tissue on fire and tossed both on the lighter fluid.

    Young told police she believed the other woman from the threesome was still in the apartment with her boyfriend at the time, though the report makes no mention of anyone else being in the apartment.

  55. lisab says:

    Trump must release his tax returns or be barred from state’s 2020 ballot, Illinois senate votes

  56. Phil says:

    Good luck wth that one Illinois. The Supremes will chew that up and spit it out.

  57. lisab says:

    Ninth Circuit rules sanctuary cities too dangerous for illegal immigrants.

  58. lisab says:

    Man lights himself on fire outside of White House

  59. lisab says:

    Kamala Harris Says She Owns A Gun

  60. Phil says:

    Does she know which end to use?

  61. Tgca says:

    48 Trump can do better than Cain?

    Clearly Jadon is a RACIST and hates all minorities.

  62. NYCmike says:

    “Man lights himself on fire outside of White House”

    -You’re fired!

  63. lisab says:

    Comey: ‘We Did Not Spy—We Just Observed And Reported Secretly Without The Subject’s Knowledge Or Consent’

  64. Tina says:

    Got to love Comedy.

    Keep talkin’

  65. lisab says:

    Man, 24, is arrested for throwing a stranger’s child, five, off a third-floor balcony at the Mall of America in Bloomington, Minnesota

  66. lisab says:

    Scientists Recommend Reducing The Number Of Democratic Presidential Candidates To Help Fight Climate Change

  67. NYCmike says:

    Is the baby OK?

  68. lisab says:

    San Jose to Hang Rainbow Flags at SJC’s Chick-fil-A

  69. lisab says:

    Is the baby OK?
    ———————-
    corey? “ok” is not the word i would use

  70. JulStol says:

    Corey calling out Bitter for having undiagnosed clinical depression might have been the clearest example of his lack of self-awareness to date.

    Bitter failing to make a joke at my expense in reference to the Jersey Girl setting her boyfriend’s house on fire after a 3some was kind of disappointing.

  71. Wes says:

    Jul, Bitter would probably rather direct that joke my way since he thinks I’m an amoral predator of emotionally damaged women.

  72. mnw says:

    Chicom

    If u have your ears on, the Bolts are in a mess o’ trouble.

    What to do about corree: never mind whether “half-truth” is too mild a name, or not. He’s a vicious, malignant assclown troll! Always & forever.

    Pretend he doesn’t exist for 3 months, & he’ll vaporize himself due to oxygen starvation.

    So obvious.

  73. Cash Cow TM says:

    Cow is demanding reparations from colleges that for centuries served steak, beef, ham(beef)burgers.

    THEY ATE MY ANCESTORS!

  74. lisab says:

    and stole your cow bell

  75. lisab says:

    Kamala Harris comes out as a gun owner: “I am a gun owner, and I own a gun for probably the reason a lot of people do — for personal safety”

  76. Phil says:

    Kamala already trying to phony it up and pretend she is one of us. Already campaigning for Michigan and Pennsylvania.

    Pathetic.

  77. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – I don’t think it. I know it.

    Jul- I only have 11 out of 12 signs of depression. Since it is not unanimous and I don’t believe in depression, Iam fine.

  78. lisab says:

    if illinois does not allow trump on the ballot,

    he will surely lose the popular vote

    and therefore will lose the states that pledge their votes to the popular vote winner

  79. lisab says:

    catherine herridge just mentioned the ‘2 hop’ under a FISA application

    this suggests that the fbi could have been allowed to spy on trump directly

  80. Phil says:

    Lisa,

    Illinois, New Jersey, Hawaii and whatever other blue states that want to play that game have as much chance of keeping Trump off their ballots as I have of being president – namely, exactly zero.

    Trust me….you are looking at even the lefties on the Supreme Court not buying that one. 9-0 if it even gets that far. States can’t impose conditions beyond those already spelled out in the Constitution. 35 Yrs of age, natural born citizen, and live in the US for 14 years. That’s it. However, I am glad they are pulling this. Just further evidence to the American People that Democrats are stark raving mad. Love it.

  81. lisab says:

    phil,

    you might be interested to see the conversations about this topic
    ——————————————–

    DaoFerret:
    More likely I’d expect an appeal to federal court saying the states simply don’t have the jurisdiction to force a candidate to reveal their federal taxes, only a federal law should be allowed to do that. (or can they appeal straight to the Supreme Court on the theoretical unconstitutionality?)
    ———————————————
    drysart
    That’s a hard sell; the Constitution explicitly grants state legislatures the sole right to determine how their state allocates electors for presidential contests.

    etc. etc.

  82. jason says:

    Straw argument, this has nothing to do with allocating electors.

  83. lisab says:

    jason,

    i think you have dealt with half-truth enough to imagine the thousands of posts arguing otherwise

  84. Tgca says:

    MAGA!
    MAGA!
    MAAAAAAAGAAAAAAA!!!

  85. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    https://civiqs.com/documents/Civiqs_DailyKos_monthly_banner_book_2019_04.pdf

    Poll done April 6 to 9, 1,584 registered voters, sample 31R/37D/32I

    Trump 44, Bernie 45
    Trump 45, Warren 43
    Trump 45, Harris 44
    Trump 45, Biden 45

  86. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2020/white_house_watch_apr12

    Trump +3 over “Millionaire Kremlin” Bernie according to Rasmussen(less)

  87. Tina says:

    Dan Bongino
    ?
    @dbongino
    With the exception of FISA warrants, the use of human intelligence assets, the use of national security letters, & the unprecedented abuse of the unmasking process, the liberal media is absolutely correct, there’s “no evidence” for Obama administration spying. Thx guys, great job

    26.8K
    5:45 PM – Apr 10, 2019

  88. Wes says:

    This is the part where I go full Robbie on this poll:

    It is accurate ONLY if Trump is lowballed in another demographic since Trump is getting nowhere near 18% of the black vote.

  89. DW says:

    Its morning in America–roughly 10,000 babies will be born in the USA today, and much to the frustration of the left, they were not aborted, and are born boys or girls.

  90. jason says:

    Because donuts don’t have enough sugar, Tgca is now just licking the frosting off 6 dozen donuts before a well balanced breakfast consisting of 40% glucose, 40% fructose, and 20% sucrose.

  91. jason says:

    Alan Greenspan says economy will start to fade ‘very dramatically’ because of entitlement burden”

    It’s ok, Alan, the Dems have the recipe fix that.

    More entitlements.

  92. Tina says:

    Lol, when will the socialist son chime in. We need real Rs to opine.

    Byron York
    @ByronYork
    · 3h
    NYT conservative columnist David Brooks supports reparations. Did not support in past, but now says election of President Trump has made reparations necessary. From @theMRC (link: http://ow.ly/u1u550q4mgH) ow.ly/u1u550q4mgH

  93. Tina says:

    The jebots 2nd favorite politician is not looking so good.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JohnKStahlUSA/status/1117045304312774656/photo/1

  94. mnw says:

    “the election of Trump has made reparations necessary,” huh?

    SOOOO many liberals to hate– I don’t have enuf hate to go around. The demand exceeds the supply. I may have to establish hate quotas.

  95. mnw says:

    Uh-oh!

    USA Today: “As the Mueller Report Looms, Democrats Find That Voters Would Rather Talk About ‘Kitchen-Sink’ Issues”

    I see! “Kitchen-Sink” issues, is it? … like, for example, “How’s my 401k doing?” and, “Are my real wages increasing, or decreasing?” and, “Did my ne’er-do-well brother-in-law finally find a JOB?”

  96. jason says:

    I think I am entitled to reparations.

    White people like NYC said I “should go back from where I came from” and Corey said I wasn’t brown enough to be an Hispanic. Others have made offensive comments about an animal that has deep cultural significance to me, the llama.

    These things have had a profound detrimental effect on my psyche. Money probably won’t mitigate this long lasting trauma, but I am willing to try anything.

  97. Tgca says:

    Ditto Jadon. My people from Puerto Rico have been used, misused, abused, and enslaved in this white patriarchal society. My great grandpapi was of the colored persuasion I’m told and my DNA shows like 10% African blood.

    Where’s my reparations?

  98. Bitterlaw says:

    I am in Chicago. I will look for a man carrying a lighted lamp seeking an honest Republican voter. I will say hi to Corey for all of you.

  99. jason says:

    I don’t think we should be supporting the sugar industry by giving reparations to Tgca.

    We must think about the health of America.

    Tgca, it’s for your own good, I hope you understand.

  100. lisab says:

    as a bisexual woman …

    i should get the most reparations

  101. Tgca says:

    Jadon is clearly showing his racist side again. Puerto Rico gave up on the sugar industry in the early 60s. Cuba still is a significant producer of sugar. Perhaps Jadon thinks all us island folks look alike. That’s not racist. Hmmm…

  102. jason says:

    I can already see this reparation thing is going to be a dogfight.

    We might consider an HHR class action suit to recover the funds. So far we have the Andean Quechua immigrant, the semi Puerto Rican gay, and the bisexual utopian socialist groups vying for the cash. There will probably be others.

    I think we should hire Bitter to make sure we get our fair cut. If he does workers comp, he is probably experienced in getting money for people who shouldn’t be getting it, not that we fit that description.

  103. lisab says:

    During a guided tour of Mount Vernon last April with French president Emmanuel Macron, Trump learned that Washington was one of the major real-estate speculators of his era. So, he couldn’t understand why America’s first president didn’t name his historic Virginia compound or any of the other property he acquired after himself.

    “If he was smart, he would’ve put his name on it,” Trump said, according to three sources briefed on the exchange. “You’ve got to put your name on stuff or no one remembers you.”

    The president’s disinterest in Washington made it tough for tour guide Bradburn to sustain Trump’s interest during a deluxe 45-minute tour of the property which he later described to associates as “truly bizarre.” The Macrons, Bradburn has told several people, were far more knowledgeable about the history of the property than the president.

    A former history professor with a PhD, Bradburn “was desperately trying to get [Trump] interested in” Washington’s house, said a source familiar with the visit, so he spoke in terms Trump understands best — telling the president that Washington was an 18th century real-estate titan who had acquired property throughout Virginia and what would come to be known as Washington, D.C.

    Trump asked whether Washington was “really rich,” according to a second person familiar with the visit. In fact, Washington was either the wealthiest or among the wealthiest Americans of his time, thanks largely to his mini real estate empire.

    “That is what Trump was really the most excited about,” this person said.

  104. lisab says:

    mt vernon’s response to the above story
    —————————————–

    Mount Vernon has a firm, long-standing policy of not commenting on the details of high-profile visits to the home of George Washington. However, we believe in the importance of ensuring that reports about events that take place at Mount Vernon are accurate. As such, we are concerned that the third-party accounts of the Trump-Macron visit released by several media outlets today do not correctly reflect the events that transpired nearly a year ago.

    Mount Vernon President Doug Bradburn and Regent Sarah Coulson escorted the presidents and first ladies on a tour of the Mansion on April 23, 2018. During the tour, all parties were interested and engaged in the story of George Washington and his beloved home. Conversations touched on topics like business dealings, real estate, and related matters that were of relevance and interest to the touring parties, and questions were asked by both leaders with curiosity and respect. Comments pulled from sources who were not present for the tour do not properly convey the tone and context in which they were delivered.

    For more than 200 years, Mount Vernon has welcomed heads of state and world leaders, offering them a place to find inspiration in Washington’s example of servant leadership. The Mount Vernon Ladies’ Association is proud to have carried on that tradition of diplomacy during last year’s state visit, and we look forward to welcoming similar delegations for generations to come.

  105. jason says:

    Bitter, if you see Corey ask him about which one is it… I might have to adjust my behavior accordingly”

    “being a horrible person is just par for the course for jason’s internet persona.”

    “you just want to get along with others”

  106. Wes says:

    Wait!

    I’m the real oppressed minority here. I’m a cisgender straight White male in a nation where such a thing is anathema.

    Where’s my check?

  107. lisab says:

    you will be paying the check

  108. lisab says:

    The ninth circuit court of appeals has ruled unanimously in favor of staying an earlier ruling from Federal Judge Richard Seeborg which blocked President Trump from returning illegal aliens (economic migrants) to Mexico pending their asylum hearing.

    The repatriation/deportation program can continue. A major win for President Trump.

  109. lisab says:

    and just like that …

    the democrats did not want illegal immigrants shipped to american cities

  110. Tina says:

    I am partially disabled and voted for trump.

    My relatives came here in the 1920s.

    Do I have to pay reparations to people who have no association to Africa?

    Maybe they should ask Hillary about the slave trade. I mean the obumbler and Hillary did a great job in Libya with reopening one,

  111. Tina says:

    POTUS Is too effective sometimes.

    Dinesh D’Souza
    ?
    @DineshDSouza
    Trump’s juxtaposition of Ilhan Omar’s comments with the images of the Twin Towers collapsing is one of the most devastating political commercials of the current era. This bodes well for 2020! Our side is learning how to treat Democrats as they have been treating us

    18.8K
    8:04 PM – Apr 12, 2019

  112. Tina says:

    Is D Souza saying that it takes a Drat (trump) to beat a Drat?

  113. lisab says:

    My relatives came here in the 1920s.

    Do I have to pay reparations to people who have no association to Africa?
    ————————————–

    were lgbt people discriminated against in the 1920’s?

  114. lisab says:

    5-Yr-Old Boy Thrown Over 3rd Level Balcony In Mall Of America…24-Yr-Old Male Arrested

    Please pray for a little 5-year-old boy who was pushed or thrown from a 3rd-floor balcony at the Mall of America. Bloomington Police have arrested a 24-year-old man, but remain tight-lipped about his identity.
    According to the Star Tribune – Bloomington police said, with the child suffering “significant injuries.”

    A 24-year-old man was arrested and is being questioned about the incident, Bloomington Police Chief Jeff Potts said. The suspect’s name has not been released.

  115. lisab says:

    A New Jersey high school has come under fire for its decision to suspend two students over their decision to post photos from a gun range on their Snapchat account.

    The ACLU has filed a complaint against a New Jersey high school that suspended two students over their decision to post photos from their weekend trip to a gun range. Lacey Township High School in Lanoka Harbor, New Jersey, decided to suspend the two male students after someone reported that they had posted photos of guns on Snapchat. Each boy received a three-day suspension and a weekend detention session.

  116. lisab says:

    you know the school district effed-up if the aclu is against them

  117. jason says:

    The guy who threw the kid off the balcony has a record of problems at that mall.

    Sounds like a nutcase.

  118. jason says:

    Tina and wes are already trying to horn in on the reparations?

    Somebody has to pay the check, so let’s not get carried away.

    There is an African proverb, each monkey to his own branch.

    Corey to “interpret” I called Tina and wes monkeys in 3, 2, 1…

  119. jason says:

    I’m a cisgender straight White male in a nation where such a thing is anathema.”

    Huh, you are a highly endangered species, no doubt.

    But remember Darwin, such things happen, it’s a natural process, no reparations apply.

  120. dblaikie says:

    I believe that the ansestors of the Scottish Covenanters who endured oppression in Colonial America as indentured servants deserve reparations. It would help with my retirement.

  121. lisab says:

    that is alleged oppression

    sarah norman and mary hammon — both bisexuals — were prosecuted for sampling each other’s apple dumplings in 1649 in plimoth massachusetts

    soooooo you owe me for 370 years of actual oppression

  122. lisab says:

    the transcript of the trial still exists:

    Hear Ye, Hear Ye. At the General Court of Our Sovereign Lord the King, Holden as Plymouth Aforesaid, the Sixth of March (1648)

    We present the wife of Hugh Norman, Sarah Norman and Mary Hammon, both of Yarmouth, for lewd behavior each with other upon a bed.

    Lord Prosecuteure: Sarah Norman, descrybe for His Majesty’s Courte what transpyred betwitx you and Mary Hammon this Saturday night past.

    Sarah Norman: Our husband’s being away hunting, Mary and I decyded to hold a lingerie party … having finished long past night fall, we decided it would be best if she slept over in my bed.

    Lord Prosecuteure: More details if you please and slower … what were you wearing at the time of the incident?

    Sarah Norman: Do you mean during the pillow fight or when the pizza delivery girl came?

    etc. etc.

    Mary Hammon cleared with admonition.

  123. jason says:

    soooooo you owe me for 370 years of actual oppression”

    Not me.

    I am going to be gorging myself at the trough like all the other victims.

  124. lisab says:

    hillary clinton: game of thrones best represents my life in politics

    ben macdonald: you mean the show where the evil queen kills all her political opponents?

  125. jason says:

    My relatives came here in the 1920s.

    Do I have to pay reparations to people who have no association to Africa?”

    Of course.

    The only reason they did well was because they oppressed somebody.

    The cutoff is about 1978 or so, don’t ask me why I picked that year.

  126. jason says:

    Cut-off for having to pay reparations, of course, not for receiving them.

  127. lisab says:

    cory booker promises to fight nra and enact strong gun laws across the nation.

  128. lisab says:

    soooooooo …. is half-truth preparing to share his mother’s basement with an illegal alien family from guatemala?

  129. lisab says:

    little boy thrown from 3rd floor of moa was seen lying in a pool of blood while police performed cpr

    the sun

  130. jason says:

    I think anyone who throws a kid off a balcony should be executed right after a fair trial.

    Sue me.

  131. Chicon says:

    And it is okay with me if the execution is painful.

  132. Wes says:

    I’m willing to provide state-ordered execution services of murders free of charge.

    I can think of one particular killer I’d like to get my hands on.

  133. jason says:

    Ok? Mandatory.

  134. Tgca says:

    MAGA!
    MAGA!!
    MAAAAAAAGAAAAAAAA!!!!

  135. Bitterlaw says:

    Hold on, mf-ers. As a diabetic denied the opportunity to serve in the military because of discrimination and hatred of insulin deprived individuals, I demand to be paid.

  136. Bitterlaw says:

    Tomorrow in Chicago – We will see Hamilton. It will also snow several inches. Pretty cool.

  137. lisab says:

    sounds like the guy will get 5 months in a psych ward

    i am guessing he was off his meds

  138. lisab says:

    Hackers publish personal data on thousands of US police officers and federal agents

    A hacker group has breached several FBI-affiliated websites and uploaded their contents to the web, including dozens of files containing the personal information of thousands of federal agents and law enforcement officers, TechCrunch has learned.

    The hackers breached three sites associated with the FBI National Academy Association, a coalition of different chapters across the U.S. promoting federal and law enforcement leadership and training located at the FBI training academy in Quantico, VA. The hackers exploited flaws on at least three of the organization’s chapter websites — which we’re not naming — and downloaded the contents of each web server.

    The hackers then put the data up for download on their own website, which we’re also not naming nor linking to given the sensitivity of the data.

    The spreadsheets contained about 4,000 unique records after duplicates were removed, including member names, a mix of personal and government email addresses, job titles, phone numbers and their postal addresses.

  139. Bitterlaw says:

    https://www.yelp.com/biz/the-berghoff-restaurant-chicago-2?hrid=HKhi2shcXNQwjQhXpsw9HQ&utm_medium=reroute&utm_source=apple_maps

    Chicon/Corey- I really liked this place. I’m curious what real Chicago residents think.

    Also, where do you recommend we try deep dish pizza in the Loop?

  140. Chicon says:

    Bitter – used to go to the Burghoff bar during law school. Great selection.

    Lou Malnati is a solid pizza choice.

    https://www.loumalnatis.com/chicago-river-north

  141. Tgca says:

    Bitter

    Check this place out in Chicago. It’s a neighborhood fav and unlike any experience you’ve probably had before.

    https://foursquare.com/v/deli-king/4f1f48a5e4b053ed99dddac1?openPhotoId=5251d8e111d2990a14bfe11b

  142. jason says:

    It’s Berghoff….not only the bar is beautiful the corned beef sandwich is excellent.

  143. jason says:

    Bitter, deep dish pizza sucks.

  144. CG says:

    I’ve never been to the Berghoff. It was an historic place around forever, then closed several years back. Some time after, it quietly re-opened amid some controversy.

    I would suggest Lou Malnati’s or Giordano’s for Deep Dish.

    There is a blizzard in Chicago this morning. I’ve never seen it snow this much this time of the year. Hopefully, Hamilton will survive Brrr.

  145. CG says:

    The Lou Malnati’s on State Street is probably a bit closer to where he want to be in the Loop.

    https://www.loumalnatis.com/chicago-south-loop

  146. bio mom says:

    I grew up in Chicago. Loved the old Berghoff. Have never been to the new one.

  147. Tina says:

    So, sanctuary cities are dangerously
    Who would have thunk it?

  148. Tina says:

    *Are dangerous.

  149. lisab says:

    Rashida Tlaib claims Dem leadership uses party’s minority members as tokens of diversity

    The message appeared to be triggered by a California Muslim activist’s assertion that Democratic leaders hadn’t been adequately supportive of U.S. Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn., who has been accused of trivializing the 9/11 terror attacks as “some people did something.”

    “They put us in photos when they want to show our party is diverse,” Tlaib wrote. “However, when we ask to be at the table, or speak up about issues that impact who we are, what we fight for & why we ran in the first place, we are ignored. To truly honor our diversity is to never silence us.”

  150. Phil says:

    Congrats to Tiger. Unbelievable comeback. Four back surgeries and three knee surgeries. Amazing.

  151. lisab says:

    who is this fica guy and why did he take so much of my money?

  152. lisab says:

    Cory Booker says Trumps stoking of fear would “make us less safe” with sanctuary cities idea

    but … releasing them into non-sanctuary places is ok?

  153. lisab says:

    i thought these illegal immigrants committed less crimes than citizens

    shouldn’t this make sanctuary cities safer?

  154. Tina says:

    Molds headline, masters hacked by Russia.

    Jack Posobiec ??
    @JackPosobiec
    ·
    1h
    Tomorrow on CNN:

    “Why Tiger Winning is Problematic for America”

  155. lisab says:

    Man sues parents over trashed porn collection

    GRAND HAVEN, Mich. — A man now living in Indiana is suing his parents after he says they destroyed his valuable porn collection.

    The case dates back to October 2016 when, according to a lawsuit filed this week, Charlie moved into his parents’ home in Grand Haven after going through a divorce from his wife. Charlie apparently stayed for 10 months in their home, doing housework in lieu of paying rent. He was asked to leave after police had to be called to the house in August of 2017 for a domestic situation.

    His parents allegedly traveled in November 2017 to his new place in Indiana to drop off possessions he had left at their home.

    Allegedly missing from the items they brought: Charlie’s massive pornography collection.

    Charlie says his parents told him that they destroyed the entire collection. A collection that consisted of over 12 moving boxes full of movies.

    The case dates back to October 2016 when, according to a lawsuit filed this week, Charlie moved into his parents’ home in Grand Haven after going through a divorce from his wife. Charlie apparently stayed for 10 months in their home, doing housework in lieu of paying rent. He was asked to leave after police had to be called to the house in August of 2017 for a domestic situation.

    His parents allegedly traveled in November 2017 to his new place in Indiana to drop off possessions he had left at their home.

    Allegedly missing from the items they brought: Charlie’s massive pornography collection.

    Charlie says his parents told him that they destroyed the entire collection. A collection that consisted of over 12 moving boxes full of movies.

    The Ottawa County Sheriff’s Office was eventually called about the destroyed items. Charlie filed a police report estimating the value of his collection to be $28,940.72. The prosecutor’s office declined to file charges against his parents.

    Just a month after filing a police report, Charlie apparently began corresponding with his father via email. Telling him in part, “If you had a problem with my belongings, you should have stated that at the time and I would have gone elsewhere. Instead you choose to keep quiet and behave vindictively.”

    His father, according to the lawsuit, responded, “Believe it or not, one reason for why I destroyed your porn was for your own mental and emotional heath. I would have done the same if I had found a kilo of crack cocaine. Someday, I hope you will understand.”

    Charlie’s father said in one email that his son was allegedly kicked out of high school and college for selling porn to other students. Saying in the documents, “I also warned you at that time if I ever found pornography in my house again, I would destroy it.”

    Charlie, apparently feeling the situation unresolved, reached back out to investigators — allegedly sending one officer 44 emails’ worth of movies he says were destroyed, listing many as valuable out-of-print films, writing, “Not Just Out of Print. But the entire studio making it dissolved, and that was 20 years ago.”

    The prosecutor’s office again declined filing charges.

    Charlie is now suing his parents for a total of $86,822.16 in damages.

  156. Cash Cow TM says:

    DOING TAXES FOR WALT TODAY!

    This is re-dick-o-loze!
    ##########################
    (Hope nobody goes to j.a.i.l.–especially Cow.

  157. Cash Cow TM says:

    lisab is BI?

    Does she know Juls GF/wife?

  158. lisab says:

    for purposes of government records, yes, yes i am

  159. lisab says:

    no i do not know julstol’s wife

    it is not like every bi person knows each other … tch

  160. Tgca says:

    164 it’s not like every bi person knows each other? Hmmm…

    I know every gay man I come across. It’s called GAYDAR!

  161. Bitterlaw says:

    Hamilton was awesome. Snow was also cool to see.

  162. Bitterlaw says:

    My thoughts on deep dish pizza:

    It is good. It is more like a calzone or Stromboli than pizza.

  163. Bitterlaw says:

    Had dinner at Pisano’s on Madison.

  164. Tgca says:

    I’m disappointed Bitter did not try Deli King in 145 post . Great sandwiches and interesting ambiance. 🙁

  165. jason says:

    Yeah, I haven’t been to the original Berghoff’s in years.

    But they have a branch at O’Hare and I have a beer and a corned beef sandwich whenever I am there.

  166. jason says:

    Deep dish pizza is dough with a real pizza on top. I can skip the dough.

    Corey to say I am telling Chicagoans how to eat pizza in 3, 2, 1…

  167. jason says:

    So the PGA rigged the Master’s so Tiger could “win” by 1 stroke, maybe ratings will rise?

    Don’t like my conspiracy theory?

    GFY.

  168. jason says:

    I just did what I do every year.

    Started the taxes too late, can’t finish, asked for an extension until October, and made a dirty Martini.

  169. Bitterlaw says:

    I agree with NYC. Send Jason back to his home country. At least until he pays his taxes. With real money. Not llamas.

  170. lisab says:

    got was boring

  171. jason says:

    Bitter shows his cultural insensitivity by stating llamas are not real money.

    They were around long before paper was even invented and used as currency since pre-Colombian times.

    There are now over 160,000 llamas in the US, taking over their rightful heritage (llamas originated in the central plains of North America around 40 million years ago).

  172. jason says:

    A little bit of history about Berghoff, until 1969 women were not allowed in the bar area. Gloria Steinem “invaded” it one day that year, and that was it.

  173. Bitterlaw says:

    The llama is a fine animal. Not as magnificent as the alpaca but pretty good.

  174. Tina says:

    Introducing the newest Republican Cher:

    Cher
    @cher
    · 9h
    I Understand Helping struggling Immigrants,but MY CITY (Los Angeles) ISNT TAKING CARE OF ITS OWN.WHAT ABOUT THE 50,000+??Citizens WHO LIVE ON THE STREETS.PPL WHO LIVE BELOW POVERTY LINE,& HUNGRY? If My State Can’t Take Care of Its Own(Many Are VETS)How Can it Take Care Of More

  175. Tgca says:

    MAGA!
    MAGA!!
    MAAAAAAAAAGAAAAAAAAA!!!

  176. Tgca says:

    Don’t forget you all need to pay Da Gubermint your taxes today. No one here is paying enough. Damn white privilege. Da Gubermint needs more to fund socialist programs.
    Free education!
    Free housing!
    Free healthcare!
    Free WiFi! It’s a basic civil right!
    We got illegal immigrants to support too dammit!

    Pay up B*TCHES!

    Make
    America
    Poor
    Again

    MAPA!
    MAAAAAAPAAAAAA!

  177. jason says:

    I would argue that the Dems have been making “reparations” for decades, and we have been paying for them.

  178. jason says:

    The llama is a fine animal. Not as magnificent as the alpaca but pretty good”

    More cultural insensitivity, no mention of the vicuñas and the guanacos. And huarizos, which is what you get when a male llama gets frisky with a female alpaca.

  179. mnw says:

    Drudge: “Millions did not get tax refunds– and may not get them next year either”

    That damn Trump!

    How DARE he let us keep more of our own money, in the form of bigger paychecks?

    I want my tax refund! To hell with that!

    Economic literacy. Who needs it, anyway? (Obviously not Drudge)

    Elecy a leftist & I gare-un-tee you’ll get your tax refunds again.

  180. jason says:

    I am applying for an extension today, hoping to get a refund tomorrow.

  181. jason says:

    Drudge seems enamored with Buttigieg….

  182. jason says:

    I went out to the barn to tell Lupita (short for Guadalupe) and Pachacutec that I had defended their honor against sordid attacks by elitist suburban Philly lawyers (ok there was only one attack, sort of, and only one lawyer, but I had to embellish it a little).

    They seemed more interested in the bag of feed in my hand than anything I had to say.

    Llamas are materialistic. Who knew?

  183. lisab says:

    Drudge seems enamored with Buttigieg….

    —————————————–

    the dems have a problem.

    harris has fizzled.
    warren too.
    all the other women are too much of a gamble after hillary.
    booker is a clown.
    beto is very strange.
    biden was the chosen man, but he is on video groing girls … too rich a target.
    sanders is the only one left, but how to ay for his programs?

    thus buttigieg is being given a chance

  184. lisab says:

    dallas: no more rosecuting petty crime

    shoplifting? noooooo problem.

    what could possibly go wrong?

  185. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    46m
    Before Nancy, who has lost all control of Congress and is getting nothing done, decides to defend her leader, Rep. Omar, she should look at the anti-Semitic, anti-Israel and ungrateful U.S. HATE statements Omar has made. She is out of control, except for her control of Nancy!

  186. Tina says:

    This will trigger somebody….

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    25m
    THEY SPIED ON MY CAMPAIGN (We will never forget)!

  187. mnw says:

    Govt: “How about I take $500 more out of your paycheck? And 12 months later, I’ll send you a check for $100?”

    We the People: “Great! How do I sign up?”

  188. jason says:

    Govt: “How about I take $500 more out of your paycheck? And 12 months later, I’ll send you a check for $100?”

    Well, the $500 that didn’t come out of the paycheck is already gone and forgotten where is my $100.

    We the people are like llamas.

    If I give Lupita and Pachacutec double feed rations today, they are still expecting to be fed tomorrow.

  189. janz says:

    Buttigieg is getting a boost from someone in the political background. Horowitz just wrote an opinion piece saying he was the most insidious candidate of them all. I concur.

  190. jason says:

    Emerson

    Biden 53%, Trump 47%
    Sanders 51%, Trump 48%
    O’Rourke 51%, Trump 49%
    Harris 50%, Trump 50%
    Buttigieg 49%, Trump 51%
    Warren 48%, Trump 52%

  191. mnw says:

    Soros got the Dallas County, TX DA too:

    Shoplifting will not be prosecuted at all. First-time drug dealers will not be prosecuted.

    Can feces & used syringes on the sidewalks be far behind?

    Soros always gets what he pays for.

  192. Phil says:

    Mueller report to be outTursday morning.

    We have to wait three whole days?

    This is outrageous. Trump must be impeached!

  193. jason says:

    I feel reassured now, because Nancy Pelosi is committed to “holding the center” and “going down the mainstream.

    What could go wrong?

    On “60 Minutes” Pelosi said her Democrats weren’t fractured by those loud voices on the left.

    “By and large, whatever orientation they came to Congress with, they know that we have to hold the center. That we have to … go down the mainstream,” Pelosi said.

    When asked by Stahl if they really know that, Pelosi answered in the affirmative.

    “They do,” she said.

  194. Tina says:

    Chuck Ross
    @ChuckRossDC
    ·
    2h
    Millions of Americans are not sending their tax returns to Congress.
    Quote Tweet

    Hillary Clinton
    @HillaryClinton
    · 2h
    Millions of Americans will put tax checks in the mail today. Meanwhile, the secretary of the treasury and head of the IRS continue to refuse to turn over Trump’s tax returns to Congress for reasons even they can’t clearly articulate. #TaxDay

  195. dblaikie says:

    Today is a sad day for anyone who loves history, art, and architecture as the great Cathedral of Paris, Notre Dam, burns.

  196. NYCmike says:

    Just going to remark on that, db.

  197. Cash Cow TM says:

    Got Walt a $1700 tax refund from the feds and $1600 tax return from the State.

    Suck it, government.

  198. Cash Cow TM says:

    Paris’ Notre Dame Cathedral–big fire, roof collapsing.

  199. dblaikie says:

    I have visited and seen most of the great Cathedrals of Europe and they are all great treasures but Notre Dam is special as it dominates downtown Paris on its island in Seine.

  200. janz says:

    Trumps New AG launches fresh changes to the immigration courts

    It’s about time! I’m becoming more impressed with Barr as time goes on.

  201. Tina says:

    Cccp sanders has taken the lead for the Drat nominations

    Gaffe has fallen due to touching and sniffing. Also, there is a report out that he helped his son do something illegal in the Ukraine. Ukraine officials want to present evidence of this matter to Barr.

    https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/april-national-poll-bernie-takes-lead-for-democratic-nomination-mayor-pete-on-the-move

  202. jason says:

    dblaikie, Notre Dame is fabulous, but my favorite cathedral is the one in Strasbourg.

    It started being built in 1015, almost 500 years before Columbus even set foot in the New World. For over two hundred years it was the tallest structure in the world.

    Absolutely stunning.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strasbourg_Cathedral#/media/File:Strasbourg_Cathedral_Exterior_-_Diliff.jpg

  203. mnw says:

    If the fire was in the attic & burned through the roof, as reported, the actual historical damage may not be as bad as feared– hopefully.

  204. jason says:

    Got Walt a $1700 tax refund from the feds and $1600 tax return from the State.”

    I have seen jails for cows.

    It ain’t pretty, the prisoners are treated like hunks of meat and made mincemeat of.

  205. lisab says:

    Coree says:

    jason lies again, columbus got to the new world in 1492! not almost 500 years.

    and it was not the new world either

  206. jason says:

    Even if the fire did not reach the artworks directly, I am sure there will be a lot of smoke and water damage, and the heat might have destroyed some stained glass windows which are priceless.

  207. lisab says:

    If the fire was in the attic & burned through the roof, as reported, the actual historical damage may not be as bad as feared– hopefully.
    —————————————

    hopefully, but unfortunately it will almost certainly be catastrophic.

    i had a professor that had been up to the attics of european cathedrals, and he said they were tinderboxes, and much of the metal used in the roof and windows is lead, which the fire will melt and rain down on the interior

  208. jason says:

    Right, let’s see, 1492-1015 is only 477 years, he will take issue with “almost”

    He will also whine that since I am not Catholic, I cannot express an opinion as to the best cathedral.

  209. lisab says:

    one small thing, which is not even a good thing

    but much of the cathedral had been looted during the french revolution, and the relics had been destroyed at that time

    so many of the artifacts in notre dame were relatively new

  210. lisab says:

    and don’t forget calling it the new world …

    people were already living there

  211. jason says:

    He will probably take issue with tallest structure too, since Mount Everest was taller.

  212. jason says:

    I am fine with New World, the revisionist aholes can GFTs.

    It was certainly new to the old world.

  213. Tina says:

    Have they ruled out “some people doing something” to the cathedral?

  214. lisab says:

    no, they have not ruled it out, but they at least unofficially have said it may be from renovations that were going on

    of course, they cannot possibly ever say it was a terrorist attack. that would cause paris to explode, given the yellow vest protests. i expect paris will have protests this weekend.

    as a side-note, when i was there in 2008, they shut down the towers BECAUSE there was a terror threat — i am not sure about what, but they did close the towers.

    i just hope the terrorists do not decide these cathedrals make good targets

  215. jason says:

    From what I can see, the spire collapsed and at least one dome.. the damage is catastrophic unfortunately.

  216. jason says:

    A “stray flame” has been blamed.

    Of course, a “stray plane” destroyed the WTC.

  217. Tina says:

    Looks like a jihadimwas arrested for trying to bomb the cathedral a week ago.

    Hopefully, just a renovation accident.

  218. lisab says:

    they could not say it was a terrorist unless it was a white nationalist

  219. jason says:

    It wouldn’t be a terrorist anyway, it would be a “militant”.

  220. lisab says:

    “What a tragedy, where will the fighting Irish play next year?” AOC

  221. jason says:

    The crown of thorns worn by Jesus has been saved.

  222. dblaikie says:

    Jason, Strasbourg is stunning— no argument there. It is like trying to choose between the Pieta and the David by Michelangelo. Both are priceless.

  223. Chicon says:

    228 – of course, Robbie’s wearing it.

  224. lisab says:

    it is official, william weld has announced he is running

    he has pledged to visit every liquor store in new hampshire

  225. lisab says:

    cnn broke away from the notre dame coverage to announce about weld

  226. Chicon says:

    So, is Weld a deadender?

  227. lisab says:

    no weld is a dipsomaniacal objector, and all republicans should vote for him because he would easily beat the democrats in 2020,

    half-truth said so

  228. jason says:

    I am glad Weld is running, it will keep Trump in the news cycle as he trashes Weld in state after state during the primaries, mobilizes GOP voters and raises cash for the party.

    Trump would be wise not to trash Weld too much, but that is probably wishful thinking.

    Weld has no credibility as a Republican anymore, have run as VP for a nutcase like Gary Johnson.

    He probably already has 3 assured votes in the primaries, scumbag Romney, Amoral Scumbag and Corey.

  229. jason says:

    Chicon says:
    April 15, 2019 at 5:28 pm

    So, is Weld a deadender?”

    Absolutely.

    He will do his best to fit the true purpose of a deadender, which is to try to ensure a winnable race goes to the Dems.

    The first thing Trump should do is say if Weld wins the primaries and the nomination he will endorse him, and then say he hopes Weld will do the same.

  230. jason says:

    Did Corey really say Weld would win a GE?

    I know he is delusional, but I didn’t think THAT delusional

    Next he would call Weld a conservative….

  231. GF says:

    230- Post of the Day!

  232. jason says:

    Yep, a real Republican…

    “When he officially switched to the Libertarian Party in 2016, Weld said he felt “free.”

    “I’ve been running for office for 20 years carrying around the Republican Party’s social policies like a 30-pound weight on my back.”

    Not only was Weld openly pro-Hillary during the 2016 campaign (despite the fact that he and Gov. Gary Johnson were theoretically running against the Democratic ticket, too) he also bragged afterwards about the damage the Johnson-Weld ticket did to the Trump campaign.”

  233. jason says:

    We have a motive..

    “I assume Weld is running in hopes that a Democrat beats Trump in the general election and he is appointed as ambassador somewhere,” says Spencer Kimball, executive director of the Emerson poll. “Maybe New Zealand. Isn’t that where Trump sent Scott Brown?”

  234. dblaikie says:

    If Weld gets 2% of the vote in New Hampshire the media will declare it a great victory and that Trump is no longer viable!

  235. jason says:

    Corey is very critical of my pro-choice position that first trimester abortions should be legal.

    I am sure he gives Weld a pass, however:

    “Weld said he would allow women to terminate pregnancies through the ninth month, calling late abortions “a price I would pay in order to have government stay out of the thicket.” (Boston Herald, 5/6/92)”

    It’s ok to kill viable fetuses about to be born “as a price to pay:.

  236. lisab says:

    Did Corey really say Weld would win a GE?
    ———————

    i think he just said he would vote for weld and that it is better to have the democrat win than to have trump win.

  237. DW says:

    Every abortion wipes out, on average, about 70 years of civil liberties.

  238. lisab says:

    If Weld gets 2% of the vote in New Hampshire the media will declare it a great victory and that Trump is no longer viable!

    ————————————

    weld will probably do relatively well in nh

    i think a lot of people, i.e. democrats, will cross over and vote for him.

    unless something bad happens it will still be a small percentage

  239. CG says:

    If transactionaljason were a sole option to Trump, I would consider voting for him, then again probably not. If he is Trump’s only opponent, I may vote for Weld if he is on my state’s ballot. I may write someone in. It all depends.

    I think if Trump supporter would not be deadenders that Weld could beat far-left Democrats. He would stand a better chance of Trump doing so. I am hoping for an even better Republican option to emerge and especially an even better Independent option for the general election.

  240. DW says:

    Isn’t Weld a year older than Trump?

  241. CG says:

    I want some clarification on Weld’s views were on the Obama Iran deal at the time of implementation. That would be the litmus test for me. Against Trump, everything else sort of fall by the wayside.

    Right now, I just know Weld is the only person with the guts to actually do something other than talk.

  242. Tina says:

    Lil Benji has deleted a tweet after slurring Catholics.

  243. NYCmike says:

    “CG” doesn’t want the Democratic nominee to win in 2020……I just want to make sure everyone knows where his true beliefs are as a “lifelong conservative Republican”.

  244. CG says:

    I forgot that it may also be very possible that March of next year, I for the first time ever, request a Democrat ballot, for the main purpose of taking part in the effort to vote out Cook County States’ Attorney Kimberly Foxx, of the Jussie Smollett fiasco. (Lots of other reasons to want her gone as well, and the only place that is going to happen is in the Democrat primary.)

  245. CG says:

    If I do vote in the Democrat primary, I will write in Theo Epstein for President…. assuming the Cubs manage to make the playoffs this year.

  246. NYCmike says:

    “Right now, I just know Weld is the only person with the guts to actually do something other than talk.”

    -Heh.

    “CG” finally realized why JEB!2016 never took off.

    Not even Romney is foolish enough in a political timing sense to take on Trump in the primaries.

  247. Tina says:

    No more Bush’s please.

    He does seem to be the most conservative one, however, and is attractive,

  248. Tina says:

    Mullah Omar is not tweeting today?

  249. Wes says:

    Trump has a 0% chance of losing the primary. Winning re-election is a completely different story.

  250. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #249
    Why is the Iran Nuclear Accord a litmus test for Mr. Weld?
    Do you support or oppose the Agreement?
    For which Party would you have voted in last week’s Israeli elections if you were eligible?

  251. CG says:

    Opposed the agreement.

    Would have voted for the Blue and White Party

    Bye.

  252. Tina says:

    Weld is the front runner. He personally vouched for clint9n.

    -Jebot

  253. jason says:

    “Against Trump, everything else sort of fall by the wayside.”

    That’s fine. I admire pragmatism.

    But don’t give us that BS about being concerned about abortion when Bill Weld has exact position as Northam on partial birth abortion.

  254. Tina says:

    Yes, another “r” in favor of the Mullah treaty.

    On June 14, 2016, Weld appeared on Bloomberg Politics “With All Due Respect.” He was asked about President Obama’s greatest foreign policy achievement. Weld said he believed it was the Iran nuclear deal and said it was “worth the candle” because 10 years is a long time. Weld added, “A few years ago I had lengthy conversations with former President Khatami of Iran and I became persuaded by him that the people of Iran really do want to tilt Western.” Weld also said that he is likely the only Republican or former Republican in the U.S. who thinks this.[47]
    In his first interview as the 2016 Libertarian Party vice presidential candidate, Weld told The New York Times he supported the Iran nuclear deal that is criticized by many Republicans. Weld said, “I thought the game was worth the candle there, and that’s politically incorrect in almost all circles—certainly in Republican circles—but I think I do feel that way, and I followed that closely.” Weld added, “I know John Kerry quite well and I saw his going back and forth, and rather admired it.” Kerry prevailed over Weld in the 1996 U.S. Senate race in Massachusetts.[48]

  255. jason says:

    Corey would have supported the socialists in Israel just like he supports the socialists here.

    Like he says, when it comes to Trump everything “falls by wayside”.

    Especially his principles, not that he actually has any.

  256. jason says:

    Tina says:
    April 15, 2019 at 6:01 pm

    No more Bush’s please.

    He does seem to be the most conservative one, however, and is attractive,”

    I think he would an excellent choice for TX governor.

    Sue me.

  257. Tina says:

    Caveat, no more Bush’s for president.

    Carry on.

    Sue me for omitting.

  258. jason says:

    I forgot to ask Corey if he still thinks my prediction that Buttigieg will be the Dem nominee sucks.

    Of, course even when I offered a generous 7-1 he didn’t take it,

  259. jason says:

    President is a stretch for George P., but I think he can make Governor.

    Maybe he can govern as a conservative like his father did in FL before becoming shocked and awed by Obama.

  260. jason says:

    It’s also possible that George P. is dark skinned enough that Corey will allow him to call himself Hispanic, so there is that.

  261. jason says:

    I think if Trump supporter would not be deadenders that Weld could beat far-left Democrats.”

    But, he, Corey, is ok with far-left Democrats winning against Trump.

    You have to admire the hypocrisy.

  262. jason says:

    The MSM will immediately label Weld as a conservative, bet on it.

    A guy who said he was “more like an urban Democrat than a suburban Republican”

  263. jason says:

    Before attacking the pork roast, let me just leave you with this:

    “I have a lot to say about Mrs. Clinton that has not been said by others recently and that I think needs to be said. I mean I’ve known her for 40 years. I worked with her, I know her well professionally. I know her well personally. I know her to be a person of high moral character.”

  264. Bitterlaw says:

    April 15th is a bad day. Lincoln died. Titanic sank. Notre Dame burned.

  265. Tina says:

    New thread,

  266. Messy says:

    Where’s John Delany in the Monmouth Iowa poll? It has all the OTHER backrunners…

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