Sanders Leads Biden By 5% Nationally

Most national polls seem to agree with other that Joe Biden holds a lead over Bernie Sanders, but it appears Emerson College sees a different Democratic electorate and has Sanders with a 5% lead over Biden.

Bernie Sanders 29%
Joe Biden 24%
Pete Buttigieg 9%
Bet O’Rourke 8%
Kamala Harris 8%
Elizabeth Warren 7%
Julian Castro 3%
Andrew Yang 3%
Cory Booker 2%
Eric Swalwell 1%
Amy Klobuchar 1%
Mike Gravel 1%
Tulsi Gabbard 1%
Tim Ryan 1%
John Delaney 1%
Jay Inslee 0%
Wayne Messam 0%
John Hickenlooper 0%
Marianne Williamson 0%
Kirsten Gllibrand 0%

Joe Biden (D) 53%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 47%

Bernie Sanders (D) 51%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 48%

Beto O’Rourke (D) 51%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 49%

Kamala Harris (D) 50%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 50%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 51%
Pete Bbuttigieg (D) 49%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 52%
Elizabeth Warren (D) 48%

This poll was done April 11-14 among 914 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 6:57 pm
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684 Responses to “Sanders Leads Biden By 5% Nationally”

  1. GPO says:

    repost from last thread

    2nd Circuit will now flip 7-6 R!!!!!

    Droney to take senior status

  2. Tina says:

    I think drats go with Cccp bernie since he was robbed the last time by Her Thighness.

  3. jason says:

    Fine with me.

    Let’s decide if we are going full blown socialist or not.

    My early prediction would be that Trump wins 40 states against Sanders.

    He would have a much harder time against Buttigieg.

  4. jason says:

    “Democratic Minnesota Rep. Ilhan Omar gave multiple interviews to a fringe Arab-American television host, Ahmed Tharwat, who calls Israel the “Jewish ISIS” and has compared the terrorist group Hamas to Holocaust victims.

    “Omar blamed “our involvement in other people’s affairs” for terrorism in a 2013 interview with Tharwat.

    “When are we gonna decide or realize that terrorism is a reaction? It’s an ideology, it’s a means of things, it’s not an entity, it’s not a place, people. It’s a reaction to a situation,” Tharwat said in the interview, which Fox News uncovered Monday.”

  5. Tgca says:

    Cuatro bebe! Cuatro!

  6. Tgca says:

    …or Cinco

  7. Tina says:

    Mullah Omar just tweeted that the Notre Dame Cathedral and it’d relics are just art and architecture.

  8. Cash Cow TM says:

    Ex MA governor William Weld has announced he will enter the R primary for POTUS on the R side.

    …waiting for lisab’s views on Weld….

  9. Cash Cow TM says:

    There are a mere 20 D candidate in the D clown car for POTUS.

    I am hoping for 50-60 or more.

  10. Tgca says:

    I still think Mayor Butt is the shiny new toy and flavor of the month. I don’t think Mayor Butt will give Trump a run for his money. He is lurching looney leftward on policy already and doing the gay circuit to raise money. Let’s see how being a pawn of West Hollywood will help him in the Midwest when he is forced into advocating many of the ideas of the radical gay left to keep the donations coming.

    Also, he was accused of racist policies towards AA, including by a Dem AA city councilwoman in his city who wants an investigation why he fired the city’s 1st AA police chief. I doubt this is coincidence and it is now getting traction and attention. It seems planned timing to release this all now so I bet there are political interests behind this that don’t want to see him outshine other Dem candidates.

    Like Chicago, there have been accusations of brutality and targeting AA by police in his small city (100k people) with a high poverty rate (nearly 27%, Newark is 28% as a reference point). A judge is reviewing tapes surreptitiously recorded of white police that supposedly document racist actions by them. Mayor Butt refuses to release the tapes saying he would rather it be court ordered which is funny when you compare how they want everything released about Trump.

    AA are not going to embrace a gay white male who is seen as protecting white police in his city and firing the city’s AA police chief from his job that resulted in city settlements. He had to fight off impeachment calls by Jesse Jackson and friends too.

    If he becomes the nominee or a top candidate, this spreads quickly through the AA community and he will have to go into damage control. The real facts won’t matter, it’s the perception. Gay men are not widely embraced in AA culture, especially one that is seen as harming AA interests. My gut feeling tells me he will hurt in the polls among AA.

    Time will tell but I don’t think Mayor Butt is threat to Trump at all at this time.

  11. jason says:

    Tgca has obviously researched Mayor Butt more than I have so I will accept his view that he is not a threat to Trump.

    I still think he is a threat to the nomination. I just think he is the only real outsider here whose baggage may be hidden, at least until now.

    I think the fact he is gay is really not a help, except maybe for fundraising, but the fact he is young, from the Midwest, a mayor, not hostile to religion, etc. is a help.

    Of course, these meteoric rises have a way of crashing, certainly on the R side we have wavelets for candidates like Cain, Newt, Carson, etc. that faded.

    I think Mayor Butt will not fade so quickly unless there really are damming tapes.

  12. Tgca says:

    Ha! Go for it Weld! I think he will have a very rude awakening and see how fast he becomes hated and ridiculed like Flake. Trump generally hovers at 90% GOP support. The MSM and the Dems just lost a major battle on Russian collusion and it looks like POTUS was correct all along about many things regarding the investigation…and now Weld thinks he can take on Trump as folks are starting to move on, and that is even before the IG and AG investigations results regarding DOJ and FBI unethical and illegal behavior is released.

    What is Weld’s rationale for primarying a sitting POTUS who has been the most successful of any GOP POTUS in his 1st 2 years going back at least 50 years. Not even Reagan has racked up the level of successes Trump has in such a short time. Maybe it’s luck or timing but Weld has to explain why he is needed to unsit the GOP leader. This is just another form of attempted impeachment by the Never Trumpers and it will fail. Weld will not win a GE and I bet will not carry MA either, and he will destroy his reputation in the process.

    There are still some with TDS who can’t let go.

  13. Wes says:

    Weld was actually a successful Governor of Massachusetts. If not for his social liberalism he would have been a solid contender for President or at least Veep 20 years ago. That time has passed, and Trump will crush Weld easily in the primaries.

  14. Tgca says:


    I just got wind of all these tapes this weekend. Never heard of it before but many articles on it as it goes back to 2012. Apparently, this goes back to Butts 1st term. He has been stonewalling their release for years, and that has not sat well with AA leaders, especially after the AA police chief filed an EEOC complaint and was relieved of his duties. The judge is supposed to decide shortly whether to release the tapes. The 4 white officers involved have tried to sue to stop it. The FBI got involved at the push of AA leaders after they felt Mayor Butt was not doing much.

    The AA chief of police was supposedly widely respected and a 30 year veteran of the force. He supposedly threatened to fire some of the 4 white officers after listening to the secretly recorded tapes so he knows what’s on them. Once the tapes are released, it will tell a story, and if there truly is racist comments and actions by officers on them, Mayor Butt is going to have a serious issue with AA voters across the US. It is highly unlikely a Dem can win the presidency without 90% of the AA vote, and I think no matter what, Mayor Butt is going to be damaged with many AA voters who will not forget a gay white man using his power to keep hidden racist actions by city employees.

    Factor that, and the fact he will have to challenge Kamala and Corey in debates with large AA audiences watching. The AA community is not ready to let a gay white man outdue someone they consider well respected like Kamala Harris or Booker.

    …and like him or not, but many AA see Booker as someone who gave up a lot to help the people of Newark when he could have prospered in Corp America.

    What has Mayor Butt done for AA?

    And on religion, Mayor Butt is going to have to take positions on the CO Baker. Is he going to say the baker is wrong and a bigot? So much for freedom of religion or speech because he does not like the outcome. If he sides with the baker, he is seen as a threat to religious freedom. If he sides with SCOTUS, he is seen as a traitor by the gays whilevtaking their money.

    Again, the shiney new coin looks good but there appears to be a lot going against him that folks have not seen yet, and that’s even before ya lking about the issues with his high poverty city where it’s hard to make a case his policies have improved it dramatically.

    Finally, I think the Dem party desperately wants to put a woman in the White House and doubtful they want to see many more qualified and older women step aside for a young gay white man.

    I think certain Dems will be out for him but time will tell.

  15. Tgca says:

    I agree with Wes the Masseuse on Weld.

  16. Tgca says:

    Lastly, Mayor Butt has been hiding his sexuality for years. What happens when it comes out he was secretly hooking up on Grindr with young guys? Didn’t Michael say he was visiting IN on spring breaks? Hmm…

  17. lisab says:

    …waiting for lisab’s views on Weld….

    he was a great governor back in the day

    best known for instituting the statewide two drink minimum in massachusetts.

    he was literally drunk every day for his entire second term, figuratively speaking

  18. lisab says:

    I agree with Wes the Masseuse on Weld.

    a masseuse is female

  19. lisab says:

    he will destroy his reputation in the process.

    his reputation is that of a raging alcoholic

  20. lisab says:

    It appears Donald Trump did not appreciate Bill Weld comparing his immigration plan to the Holocaust.

    Asked about the Kristallnacht comparison the former Massachusetts made when talking about Trump’s proposal to deport an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants from the country, the Republican candidate responded in true Trump form.

    “I don’t talk about his alcoholism, so why would he talk about my foolishly perceived fascism?” Trump told The New York Times through a spokeswoman. The comment appeared as part of article published Saturday about the rise of right-wing nationalism in other countries amid his campaign’s success.

  21. Wes says:

    A masseuse is also a prostitute. My kneading of others is separate from my sensual liaisons. The former is a compensated service provided within a legal framework. The latter is a nontransactional act of pleasure.

  22. NYCmike says:

    Every time Wes feels the need to explain “masseuse” he reminds me of ‘Francis’:

  23. Tgca says:

    Wes my friend. I knew that would get a reaction from you. Could not help myself. 🙂

    Evidently LisaB read it literally.

    …and just because a compensated service is provided within a legal framework does not mean one can’t enjoy the work perks, after all how many gym trainers don’t enjoy eyeing up some gym candy? 🙂

  24. Wes says:

    Tg, one of the first things I learned was to dissociate myself from my work. I regard clients as bodies to provide therapeutic touch to and quite honestly make as much effort as possible to avoid seeing any part of a person I shouldn’t see outside an intimate encounter.

  25. Wes says:

    I have had gay men proposition me for happy endings. Well, after that, I was happy to end the session by telling them to get dressed and informing the front desk of the need to terminate their patronage.

  26. Tgca says:

    Gay men ask you for happy endings?

    Omg! Was that you? I had no idea. Sorry!

  27. Tgca says:


    It is funny how social interactions are different between the breeders and the sausage jockeys. For example, a straight guy who hardly knows you would generally not start getting into detailed conversations about sex with you whereas, often, gay men see nothing with asking or talking to you about detailed sex within a minute of 1st meeting you even in a social setting, as opposed to trying to pick you up. I’ve had male gay professionals just assume they can make comments because they assume you’re thinking similarly. It just seems odd to me but it is quite common in the gay world. I once remember being in a Starbucks predominantly frequented by gay men and this guy is just politely making small talk and then pulls out porno DVDs and offers them to me since he has extra copies. I was astonished he would do such a thing as generally if a straight guy did that to a woman or another straight guy, people would say that’s perverted and creepy.

    Of course, I did not want to offend his generosity so I accepted the gift, and they have subsequently been worn down from extensive viewing so I thought to myself…cheap @$$…he should have used better quality DVDs to mass copy.

    …and that’s one reason how breeders and sausage jockeys are very different.

  28. jason says:

    I guess Weld was successful in the sense he was able to win as a Republican in MA.

    But from what I read his claim to being a “fiscal conservative” has to be taken with a grain a salt.

    I am sure its difficult to govern as a fiscal conservative in MA, but his fiscal record there is not that great.

    On the other hand his claim to be a “social liberal” is well documented.

    In any case his time has passed, of course the MSM will tout him as the conscience of the Republican Party any time Romney gets off the stage to go to the toilet, and his virtues as a “fiscal conservative” will be heard ad nauseam during the primaries.

  29. Bitterlaw says:

    While Wes constantly disparages both my profession and my ability to practice it, I will not return his scorn.

    I personally think that Wes’ job is a waster of time and money with no value, I believe that he is honest and professional in his conduct.

  30. jason says:

    “I will not return his scorn”

    “I personally think that Wes’ job is a waster of time and money with no value”

    Hmmm….. okay, Bitter, no scorn there.

    My view of massage therapists is the same as my view of chiropractors. I am skeptical of the benefits myself, which could be easily explained by the fact I never used either one. However, I know enough people who claim they do wonders for them to be convinced they do help at least some of the clients/patients.

    I compare it somewhat to going to church. I don’t go myself, but I am sure those that do go derive a lot of benefit.

  31. jason says:

    How is this for chutzpah?

    “I think that what we saw in Congress, with the attorney general’s presentation in both the House and the Senate, is someone who considers his principal duty to be protecting Donald Trump, not protecting the rule of law and the democracy that the Justice Department should be defending,” said Clinton”

    I guess she never heard of Eric Holder or Loretta Lynch.

  32. jason says:

    Pelosi takes another shot at AOC…

    “A glass of water with a D next to it would have won that district”.


  33. jason says:

    Wake up you lazy bastards.

    I know Tgca is chowing down on a breakfast of s’mores dipped in a combined chocolate and caramel sauce washed down with six double shots of organic maple syrup, but what is the excuse for the rest of you?

  34. mnw says:

    My take on Weld:

    Trump will ignore him & have no joint appearances (“debates”) with him.

    Republicans will not turn out to see Weld. Neither will Democrats.

    He can’t raise money, but the MSM will keep him supplied with plentiful free airtime to bash Trump.

    So here’s the totality of his campaign: cable TV appearances. Period.

  35. jason says:

    Of course.

    They will give him endless interviews to bash Trump.

    They will ask him questions like:

    “So what brought about this incredible devotion to civic duty that compels you to sacrifice yourself in this manner for the good of the nation”?

    “Do you think Trump is a common criminal or merely insane”?

    “Do you think your stellar record of fiscal responsibility and bi-partisan accomplishments will contrast well with Trump’s record of stealing from the poor to give to the rich”?

    “Do you think Trump’s policy of killing immigrant children at the border is correct”?

  36. jason says:

    Someone should do a welfare check on Tgca, I think he might be in a sugar induced coma.

  37. Wes says:

    How bad a position are Arkansas Dems in?

    They’re reduced to trying to recruit failed House candidates to challenge Cotton.

  38. jason says:

    Kerrey may be irrelevant, but he is right…

    “Former senator Bob Kerrey (D., Neb.) said that Democrats are suffering from a “delusion” and that President Donald Trump would be right to pardon anyone indicted in the two-year-long investigation conducted by Special Counsel Robert Mueller.

    “If there is a man or woman who was convicted and sentenced for not telling the truth about a collusion that never happened, I’d like them to be pardoned,” Kerrey told The Washington Times in an interview.

    Kerrey called out in particular Rep. Adam Schiff (D., Mass.), a frequent and vocal supporter of continuing and expanding the investigation into the possibility of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

    “Personally, I would love to hear Schiff say, ‘Enough. There are other committees that can look at this, and we need to get back to the committee’s mission of making sure the Department of Defense is spending its money correctly,'” Kerry said. “He could gain a lot of credibility with the American people if we go back to the time when that committee was nonpartisan.”

    Kerrey added that Democrats alleging there is clear evidence that Trump obstructed justice because of the number of indicted people who lied to the prosecution is unfair to the nature of high profile cases.

    “I know what kind of power a prosecutor has,” he told the Times. “They have a gun to your head, and they know most of these cases never go to trial. So you have a choice of spending the rest of your life in prison or pleading guilty and maybe doing a year.”

  39. jason says:

    I hear several glasses of water are upset about Pelosi’s comment on AOC.

  40. DW says:

    Another frustrating and disappointing day for Democrats. There will another 10,000 or so babies born alive today, rather than being aborted, and the attending doctors will declare each one a boy or a girl.

  41. jason says:

    If I was Trump I would pardon Flynn, Stone and Papadopoulos, I really don’t see what they did wrong, the “lying” evidence is very weak and unrelated to any of the original mandate of the SC.

    I would commute, not pardon, Manafort’s sentence under the condition he make restitution on the tax evasion and let whatever other fines stand. He would never have been prosecuted were it not for his involvement in the Trump campaign, and I don’t think that is reason to spend 10 years in prison.

    I expect that win or lose the election, that will happen.

  42. Corree says:

    Like I said yesterday, when it comes to Trump “everything falls by the wayside”.

    So I am ok with killing some of these babies if “that is the price we have to pay”.

  43. Wobbles says:

    Miss me?

    I have been trying to recover here in the calm waters of Bogo Pogo from the emotional trauma of Barr’s report that there was no collusion and no grounds for obstruction into the investigation of no collusion. Plus my hero Michael Avennatti will now never be President, this was my go to anti-Trump source, I always checked his tweets before even moving on to Daily Kos and MSNBC.

    I am hopeful I can check in with some nuggets that prove Barr, Rosenstein and Mueller are very wrong and that the report indeed shows there was collusion, obstruction and child molesting. My new hero Adam Schiff, will make sure this gross injustice is rectified and maybe finally we can overturn the results of the election.

    Ta-ta, see you soon.

  44. Marco Rubio says:


    Thank you for your thupport!

  45. lisab says:

    People are losing their mind over 2020 candidate Pete Buttigieg speaking perfect French in a tribute to Paris following the devastating Notre Dame fire

    perfect french?

    yup … he’s gay.

  46. lisab says:

    there is a pudgy pasty faced little white guy that owns the company that was renovating notre dame

    they are going to crucify him

    they cannot even mention the word arson, so they need a fall guy

    he should run to switzerland

  47. jason says:

    Could have been a lit cigarette…

  48. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart
    Wait, so Betamale has raised $9.4m but only has $6.3m left?

    What’s he spending on? Skateboards?

    That’s a burn rate faster than a Disney movie.

  49. jason says:

    Somebody screwed up on the response too..

    “PARIS—An alarm was raised at Notre Dame at 6:20 p.m. on Monday night—23 minutes before the structure was engulfed in flames—but officials found no sign of a fire.

    Firefighters who responded to a second alert raced to the scene but were unable to tame an inferno that ripped through the 12th century cathedral for the next 9 hours”

  50. jason says:

    perfect french?

    yup … he’s gay.”

    Uh oh….

    Houston, il y a un problème..

  51. jason says:

    Maybe that only holds true for native born Americans… foreign born Americans get a pass for speaking other languages.

  52. jason says:

    That’s a burn rate faster than a Disney movie.”

    C’mon man, that’s antiquated talk.

    Now you say faster than Notre Dame cathedral.

  53. mnw says:


    Disney (DIS) is up appx 15% over the last few days. My kind of “burn rate,” altho I don’t own any. One of my kids does.

  54. jason says:

    Maybe Messy can explain how the surgeon analogy fits in here…

    “WASHINGTON — Marianne Williamson, a 2020 Democratic presidential candidate, has proposed the creation of two new federal agencies: the Department of Peace Creation and the Department of Children and Youth.

    Williamson was asked how the Department of Peace Creation would differ from the State Department.

    “Well, the State Department works with international issues and I do believe that we need a far more robust relationship between the State Department and the Defense Department. I have great respect for the U.S. military. We all should and must. My father fought in World War II and as I said, you know, you’re the president. You’re the commander-in-chief but I see the military like the surgeon. If you’re going to have surgery, you want to have the best surgeon,” Williamson said during a CNN town hall on Sunday evening.”

  55. jason says:

    I might have to send her a check…

  56. jason says:

    I wish someone would propose the Department of Wealth Creation.

  57. jason says:

    -Not so sure about this.”

    Right. Me neither. Corey will probably say the destruction of Israel might just be “the price we have to pay” to get rid of Trump.

  58. Tina says:

    Mnw, bought a lot of Disney shares in 2010.

  59. jason says:

    Predictit now has Mayor Butt tied with Bernie at 21 cents each for the nomination.

    For President:
    Trump 40 cents
    Biden 15
    Butt 14
    Sanders 14
    Harris 10
    Yang 7
    Beto 5

    No bargains here
    Warren 4%

  60. jason says:

    Huh, the no bargains comment was supposed to come after Warren.

  61. jason says:

    I should have bought Butt at 4 cents and sold him now for 21.

    Missed oppty.

  62. NYCmike says:

    “I should have bought Butt at 4 cents and sold him now for 21.”

    -You sound like a “masseuse”.

  63. Victrc says:

    Had to spend the day with Dems in DC and of course, msnbc was playing in every office.

    They were all reveling (sic) in the applause Sanders received for the midicare for all speech on Fox. They take it to mean that there is now universal support amongst republicans for not only Medicare for all, but all their proposals (open borders, gun control, higher taxes, etc)

    It amazes me that people either are oblivious to, or refused to acknowledge, the fact that Fox let a decent sized contingent of Bernie supporters into the “town hall” as part of the agreement he made to come on the show.

    They biggest factor we, and most, are overlooking is that the attitude on the D side hasn’t changed in 3 years. They are absolutely and totally convinced that Trump can not win at all and that Americans are 100% behind their proposals. They can not fathom any American (besides r acist s) will vote for him,

    That arrogance is how you lose elections.

  64. Bitterlaw says:

    Chicago was great. I thought it was clean but there more homeless than I have seen in NYC, DC, or Philadelphia. It is a bigger city than DC and Philly but seemed to have more homeless than I expected.

  65. jason says:

    Don’t worry. With Bernie as President they will all be given houses and the current occupants will become homeless instead.

  66. jason says:

    Omar reduces Notre Dame to “art and archictecture”..

    The response is hilarious

    “Art and architecture have a unique ability to help us connect across our differences and bring people together in important ways. Thinking of the people of Paris and praying for every first responder trying to save this wonder.

    Harry Khachatrian


    Did something happen to some building?”

  67. Robbie says:

    Breaking my hiatus for this.

    I bet Jason fraud and NYCmike are high fiving at the chance to support Good ole Roy who likes to troll the local malls for fine looking teenage girls.

    David M. Drucker

    NEW: Roy Moore is poised to jump into Alabama Senate race in bid to earn rematch w/ @SenDougJones, the Democrat who handed former judge a stunning defeat in 2017 special election. @dcexaminer #ALSEN

  68. Tina says:

    Cccp Bernie has big mo.

  69. Tina says:

    The jebots love aoc.

  70. Phil says:

    Jason and Mike support Roy Moore?

    Guess I missed that one.

  71. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    April 16, 2019 at 12:39 pm
    Miss me?
    I have been trying to recover here in the calm waters of Bogo Pogo from the emotional trauma of Barr’s report that there was no collusion and no grounds for obstruction into the investigation of no collusion. Plus my hero Michael Avennatti will now never be President, this was my go to anti-Trump source, I always checked his tweets before even moving on to Daily Kos and MSNBC.
    I am hopeful I can check in with some nuggets that prove Barr, Rosenstein and Mueller are very wrong and that the report indeed shows there was collusion, obstruction and child molesting. My new hero Adam Schiff, will make sure this gross injustice is rectified and maybe finally we can overturn the results of the election.
    Ta-ta, see you soon.

    – No, Jason fraud. Wrong as usual.

    After five years straight of participating almost daily in this forum, I decided in late January it was a great time for a break. I was spending too much time here and I became increasingly disgusted with the populist opinions that came to dominate each thread.

    Other than the occasional drive-by posts, I’ll be back early next year when the primaries heat up. Until then, I wish you continued success twisting yourself into a pretzel supporting the person who made you leave the party.

  72. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    April 16, 2019 at 7:25 pm
    Jason and Mike support Roy Moore?
    Guess I missed that one.

    – Go back to December 2017. It’s there to read.

  73. jason says:

    I decided in late January it was a great time for a break”

    Translation: despite regurgitating MSM lies here for years, “we” are still not any closer to overturning the results of the election.

  74. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag could not resist one last lie.

    He knows nobody opposed Roy Moore here more than I did.

  75. jason says:

    the person who made you leave the party.”

    And Amoral Scumbag know I never said I left the party because of Trump.

    I guess he can find a post where I ever supported Roy Moore or said I left the party because of Trump in the same place he will find Jeb’s real killer.

  76. jason says:

    I give Amoral Scumbag’s a ZERO on the scale….

    It’s obvious he just can’t deal with the fact his last hope to overturn the results of the election with some kind of coup didn’t work out.

    He must be devastated his hero Avenatti, his standard go to when it came to anti-Trump propaganda, is an amoral scumbag just like him.

    Amoral Scumbag is a miserable, pathetic excuse for a human being, with the moral compass of a floating turd.

  77. Tgca says:

    73 Robbie

    The person who made me leave the GOP? Considering I left it in disgust in 2006 to become an independent. Hmmm…who was POTUS during that dark period of lies about WMD, perverted CongressCritters molesting boys, misleading the public about Iraq, etc. Was Trump POTUS then? Hmmm…

  78. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag’s goodbye it should say.

  79. Tina says:

    I supported Hillary.


  80. NYCmike says:

    I think Robbie is really mad that out of all the people who would have him fly a plane, it had to be President Trump asking him to water-bomb the Notre Dame Cathedral yesterday.

  81. Tina says:

    I was praised by the Clinton groupie, when I was house speaker.

    Pedo Blob

  82. Phil says:

    Anyone who specializied in constant nonstop blasting of Trump’s character while at the same delighting in Trump attacks from a scum like Michael Avenatti absolutely needed to leave.

  83. jason says:

    populist opinions”


    I hope I get some points for being called a “populist”.

    That makes about as much sense as saying I supported Roy Moore.

  84. jason says:

    Avenatti was stealing from paraplegic, mentally ill clients.

    This was Amoral Scumbag’s paragon of virtue.

  85. Tina says:

    Yup, no taint..

    Yahoo News
    · 2h
    Pelosi: ‘No taint’ of anti-Semitism in Democratic Party (link: by @writerknowles

  86. Tgca says:

    Jadon is going to be sooooooo jealous.

    TGCA’s Fabulous Dinner Tonight:
    Broiled to perfection Beyond Burger sprinkled with Chipotle Smoked Jalepeno Seasoning with melted Gouda cheese garnished with fresh black pepper accompanied by quartered artichokes and arugula smothered in a creamy Alfredo sauce infused with fresh basil, cilantro, oregano, black pepper, and Parmesan cheese culminated by an absolutely delectable Greek yogurt blueberry bar and a palate titilating iced green and white tea flavored very delicately with a smidgen of maple syrup.

    All organic and freshly made of course. Yummy!

  87. Wes says:

    The jalapeños are the only thing in that meal I can imagine eating—and I can’t even eat those now because I have a serious case of ulcers.

  88. Tgca says:

    Jadon’s dog and cat are soooo jealous.

    TGCA’s Canine Children’s Dinner Tonight:
    A delectable homemade doggie stew of boiled cubed chicken breast in a garlic basil broth with sweet potatoes, cauliflower, broccoli, spinach, and carrots accompanied by super green multi chew tablets, Pet-Tinic palatable liquid vitamin-mineral supplement, chlorophyll tablets, and Omega 3 oil soft gels served warm in Martha Stewart fine dining canine slow feeding bowls followed by a gourmet peanut butter and banana treat and bio active fresh oral greenies made with coconut oil for a natural after dinner teeth cleansing. Woof!

    All ingredients organic of course and stew made with bottled water.

  89. Tgca says:

    Wes’ ulcers are from poor eating habits which can be attributed from not taking the time to lovingly prepare fresh organic diverse meals because of his busy schedule as a masseuse.

  90. lisab says:

    The jalapeños are the only thing in that meal I can imagine eating—and I can’t even eat those now because I have a serious case of ulcers.

    have you been tested for h. pylori?

    it is a common bacteria that causes ulcers. it is common to test for it in other countries, but some places in the usa do not test for it, because it is not as common in the usa.

    if you have h. pylori, you can be cured of ulcers in 4 months. if you have it, and they do not test for it, nothing the doctors do will work.

    the test for it is … ummmmmmmm … not so pleasant

  91. lisab says:

    because of his busy schedule as a masseuse.

    that would be masseur … masseuse is feminine

  92. NYCmike says:

    I am positive that Wes has a certificate for his ulcers, and worked very hard to get them.

    DO NOT minimize his struggles!

  93. Tgca says:

    93 LisaB

    We know the difference but evidently you are NOT following our discussions on Wes’s chosen occupation as a MASSEUSE

  94. Tina says:

    You guys are cruel. I like my cmt. I have back, hip, and leg pain. The cmt I use is much better than a pt and dr. Pills.

    Just my 2 cents.

  95. jason says:

    I don’t get ulcers, I give them.

  96. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    73. “Other than the occasional drive-by posts, I’ll be back early next year when the primaries heat up.”

    Sorry you got laid off Robbie. This is a doldrums period for trolling. The Mueller report was a dud, so Trump will not be driven out of office. Funding sources are now focused on the Democrat primary. Keep cutting and pasting your anti-Trump talking points, and see you next year.

  97. Tgca says:


    I have nothing against a good therapeutic massage, deep tissue conditioning, and electrical stimulation. After my cervical spine surgery, I went a few times weekly for months to loosen muscles up because I had spasms, extreme tightness, and limited mobility and the treatment helped as the nerves came back from a dormant stage they went into after the surgery. My massage dude was a nice friendly middle-aged married Latino guy and we chatted about many events of the day…he was a Trump supporter too!

    He did not offer, and I did not seek happy endings which clearly seems to be something confined to practices in North Carolina. -:)

  98. jason says:

    I didn’t read past “Jadon” because I don’t want to upchuck my 14 oz ribeye steak dinner, perfectly cooked rare.

  99. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag will drive-by whenever Rachel Madcow gets excited about something.

  100. jason says:

    If Tgca lived in York County I would report him to the ASPCA for feeding his dogs sweet potatoes and spinach.

    They would throw his ass in jail for animal cruelty.

  101. jason says:

    My dog will an occasional carrot if bacon or marrow bone treats are not available.

    He would probably kill me in my sleep if I fed him broccoli and spinach.

  102. Tina says:

    I wonder if Jebots basement was converted into a bunker, post F. Mulehead?

  103. lisab says:

    i don’t get why weak men like robbie and half-truth want to collapse the system, which a coup would do (or the dems winning by 14 points as half-truth wanted)

    can they possibly think they would be better off in a system that came after the election being overturned? they would be the first eaten on the life boats

  104. Wes says:

    I knew Mikey was stupid. He doesn’t realize ulcers are a medical condition rather than a licensing certification.

  105. Wes says:

    As for my condition, Lisa, the hospital was unable to determine a cause. However, I have stopped drinking and eating spicy food to give them time to heal ahead of my follow-up appointment later this month to see if any further action like surgery is needed.

  106. Wes says:

    Tgca, I would strongly advise against ever asking an LMBT in NC for a happy ending. You’ll make your therapist happy because he or she will then be able to end the session early and keep the money you’ve already paid while informing you you are no longer welcome at the spa.

  107. Tgca says:

    108 Wes

    LMBT? Is that like LGBT?

    I can’t figure out what the M stands for. Hmmm…

  108. Bitterlaw says:

    I am glad that Tina derives benefit from massage therapy. I just know that as an attorney, when that is all the treatment that the injured person receives, even their attorney knows the case is over.

  109. Bitterlaw says:

    It is very ironic that Wes has ulcers and I do not. Wes takes care of myself, exercises, and eats a healthy diet. My 2 main food groups are soda and salt. I am never relaxed and sent Almaty as many e-mails on vacation as I do in my office. I also refuse to put an “out of office” message on my phone or e-mails. I just call or e-mail the person back right away.

    Yet, I do not have ulcers. Maybe the difference is that Wes drinks wine and preys upon emotionally damaged women.

  110. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca’s starvation diet for his dogs is just mean. The only reason they have not eaten him is that there is no meat on his bones, either.

  111. jason says:

    I wonder if Tgca forces his dogs to be gay too, not just vegetarian.

  112. jason says:

    I feel kind of honored that Amoral Scumbag’s goodbye was about my “support for Roy Moore”.

    The fact the poor bastard couldn’t even stop lying on his last (kind of) post is testament to how addicted he is to fake news.

  113. jason says:

    i don’t get why weak men like robbie and half-truth want to collapse the system,”

    Corey already explained that.

    Whatever it takes. Remember his post a couple days ago “when it comes to Trump, everything falls by the wayside”.

    He already threw 9-month old fetuses, Israel and capitalism under the bus, you think he cares about the consequences to the system if the election results are overturned?

  114. DW says:

    Today looks like it will be another rough day for Democrats as another 10,000 live babies will be born today in the USA, and nothing was done to kill them. And adding insult to injury, the attending doctors will announce each one as a boy or a girl.

  115. DW says:

    And never forget jason that Corey thinks a three-year old should be taken seriously when same three year old announces interest in changing genders.

  116. mnw says:

    lisab 105

    How about this? Jealousy & nihilism

    They’re not making it in America, while a lot of their peers are.

    The trolls do NOT reason that, “My neighbor has a cow, & I don’t. I will work hard & buy a cow myself one day.”

    Trolls like corree reason that, “My neighbor has a cow, & I don’t. I want my neighbor’s cow to die!”

    (sincere apologies to our own Mountaineer Cow, btw.)

    Btw, going only by memory, I think RAS has had Trump at 50 or over for all but one of the last 10 days. It’s 52/48 today.

  117. jason says:

    More bad news for Trudeau

    “The right-leaning United Conservative Party (UCP) has taken power in the oil-rich Canadian province of Alberta, routing the left-leaning NDP.

    The UCP won 63 of the 87 seats of the legislature, provisional results say.

    Leader Jason Kenney, a former federal cabinet minister, will be the next premier of Alberta.

    The win could reverberate beyond Alberta, setting the party on a collision course with PM Justin Trudeau’s Liberals over climate change.

    Mr Kenney has vowed to do away with a provincial carbon levy and to join four other provinces – including Ontario, Canada’s most populous province – in fighting the federal government in court over its carbon tax.”

  118. mnw says:

    How Trump can make certain he won’t be re-elected?

    A gas tax increase!

    And of course, that’s “under discussion” & “hasn’t been ruled out.”

    It’s always easy to get a bipartisan consensus for a tax increase.
    If you watch the signs at the filling stations every day, as I do,* the price of gas has gone up dramatically since New Years. Where I live, from appx $2.10 to appx $2.75.

    *investment research

  119. DW says:

    mnw…great illustration. Expanding it further:

    Capitalist neighbor: “My neighbor has a cow, & I don’t. I will work hard & buy a cow myself one day.”

    Socialist neighbor: “My neighbor has a cow, & I don’t. I want government to give me a cow!”

    Communist neighbor: “My neighbor has a cow, & I don’t. I want government to shoot my neighbor and give me his cow!”

    Marxist neighbor: “My neighbor has a cow, & I don’t. I want my neighbor and my neighbor’s cow to die!”

    Social Justice neighbor: “My neighbor has a cow, and I don’t. I want my neighbor to die, and government to give me one cow for every year my neighbor had a cow and I didn’t.”

    Abortion/Trans-gender activist neighbor: “My neighbor has a cow, and I don’t. I want all calves born to my neighbors cow to be aborted, and I want surgery scheduled on my neighbor’s cow to turn it into a bull.

  120. DW says:

    One more…

    Walt has a cow, and I don’t. Hurray for Walt!

  121. mnw says:


    That’s very good.

  122. CG says:

    Your neighbor is Donald Trump- “My neighbor’s cow is so ugly and fat….. (continues this for days)”

  123. jason says:

    Amish neighbor – my neighbor has 107 cows

  124. Chicon says:

    And a bunch of llamas.

  125. jason says:

    jason’s neighbor – the English have funny looking cows

  126. jason says:

    How Trump can make certain he won’t be re-elected?

    A gas tax increase!”

    Yep, we saw this movie before.

    The Dems were all for a tax increase, and “read my lips” decided to go along with it for bi-partisanship.

    Later the same Dems hung him with it, and they will do the same to Trump.

  127. jason says:

    I am down to 2 llamas, Guadalupe (Lupita) and Pachacutec. Lupita is getting a little old for breeding, but maybe one more cria before she retires.

  128. jason says:

    I see this Anna Wintour woman will not put Melania Trump on the cover of Vogue even though every other first lady was on including Michelle Obama 3 times because “we have to take a stand”.

    Since its a fashion magazine, one can only surmise that the “stand” is that Michelle is more fashionable than Melania.

  129. jason says:

    Of course, when Trump was a Democrat and Hillary sat in the front row of the wedding, Vogue didn’t “take a stand”.

  130. DW says:

    there is so much bias out there, open for all to see. Last night my phone google news feed had a story about Beto O’Rourke, so I clicked the option to pull up the menu where I could select, “I am not interested in Beto O’Rourke.” But the option was not there. Google would not allow me to block O’Rourke, because I MUST be interested in him by their demand. Most any other person I can choose the option to remove from the feed news stories about the person.

  131. NYCmike says:

    “Yet, I do not have ulcers. Maybe the difference is that Wes**preys upon emotionally damaged women.”

    **Took out the wine part……no need to join him in Beat-Down-Town.

  132. jason says:

    I hope they throw him in jail for a long time.

    I am frankly surprised at how many conservatives want to give Assange a pass, including Glenn Reynolds at Instapundit. I find the argument that he was just a “journalist” doing his job by encouraging Chelsea Manning to commit treason very very weak. The fact is he offered to help him/her break codes to gather classified information.

    I know some of the moonbats who thought he was a hero when he was publishing classified information are now angry at him for releasing Podesta’s emails, but I have consistently labeled Assange a criminal who should be prosecuted.

    “A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 61% of Likely U.S. Voters think it’s likely that WikiLeaks’ release of classified documents has hurt U.S. national security, with 30% who say it’s Very Likely. Twenty-nine percent (29%) consider that unlikely, but that includes only 7% who say it’s Not At All Likely.”

  133. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    120. “If you watch the signs at the filling stations every day, as I do,* the price of gas has gone up dramatically since New Years. Where I live, from appx $2.10 to appx $2.75.”

    Gas prices in California now are well over $4.00 a gallon. The gas prices in my area are at about $4.35 a gallon. This is the price throughout California now. Just over the border in Oregon you can get gas for $3.25 a gallon. Unfortunately, I just completed a trip from Seattle to San Diego, and throughout California gas is well over $4.00 a gallon. In Utah, by contrast, the gas price is about $2.30 a gallon.

    California requires a special blend for gasoline, which requires it to be imported and processed at a limited number of refineries on the coast. When one of the refineries is down for maintenance, gasoline prices skyrocket. As with all socialist systems, shortages creates high prices. Those hurt the most are the poor; yet the social justice advocates are silent?

  134. jason says:

    While Corey compares Trump to Nazis…

    “Democratic Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib met with members of the anti-Israel organization American Muslims for Palestine during an advocacy event they hosted on Capitol Hill.
    Tlaib was photographed after sitting down with Joe Catron, an extreme anti-Israel activist and outspoken terrorist supporter.

    Democratic Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib met with another extreme anti-Israel activist and terrorist-supporter in her Capitol Hill congressional office during American Muslims for Palestine Advocacy Day in mid-April.

    American Muslims for Palestine (AMP) hosted the annual advocacy and training event, which was open to all adults who “seek justice in Palestine.” Additional criteria for participation includes supporting the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) movement, which seeks to punish Israel by economically depriving the country for its alleged mistreatment of Palestinians living in the Gaza =
    The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) describes the BDS movement as “the most prominent effort to undermine Israel’s existence” and has further criticized AMP for promoting anti-Semitism under the guise of educating Americans. AMP hailed the ADL’s anti-Israel description of its organization.”

    Corey to say since I am not Jewish I should not comment on anti-semitism in 3, 2, 1….

  135. CG says:

    There are many things you shouldn’t comment on because you have no actual values or convictions. You just worship power for power’s sake.

    One can be both opposed to the anti-Semitic associates of people like Tlaib on the Far Left as well as those on the Alt-Righ.t who have found a savior in in Donald Trump, aka Duke-Lite.

    Complexity of thought should not be that beneath us.

  136. NYCmike says:

    “Complexity of thought should not be that beneath us.”


    The Force (of 2016) is strong in this one!

  137. Phil says:

    Yeah, Corey. You are the only one with any “values or convictions”

    Typical. Corey issuing another sermon from the mount to the unwashed masses on this site.

  138. CG says:

    I was speaking specifically to jason but I suppose if people think the shoe fits..

  139. dblaikie says:

    Frankly I think that all efforts of people (like Corey) try to draw parallels between Trump and Nazis dishonors the millions who died in Auschwitz and the other death camps that were pure evil. It also belittles the sacrifice of the thousands of WW II veterans, like my Dad (36th armored infantry regiment of the 3rd armored division) who liberated death camps like Nordhausen. For Dad that action helped to justify weeks of hand to hand combat because he helped to stop a great evil.

    So Corey you don’t have to like Trump but just shut the hell up with comparing him to Hitler!! Donald Trump is nothing like the Nazis. To be fair neither is anyone else in American politics. Quit trying to compare what is going on at the border with what happened at Bergen Belsen.

  140. Phil says:

    I don’t think you ought to be laying that crap on anyone here. It’s way beyond tiresome.

    You may be the most sanctimonious ass I’ve ever encountered. James Comey might give you a run for your money, however. It would be close.

  141. CG says:

    I have never, ever said Trump was a Nazi.

    I have said he is a bigot, which nobody has ever really disagreed with and I have said he is “Duke-Lite.” That was clear during the campaign.

    As a Jew, I was brought up to care about bigotry and injustice and unfairness to not only Jews.

    -jason is the one who said directly that Trump was a “racist” a “fascist” and a “Klansman” and since he refuses to claim he was wrong to say any of the these, we just have to conclude that Trump’s power and the validation it gives him makes all the rest irrelevant now.

  142. mnw says:

    SDC & jason

    RE: gas tax increase:

    No matter where one lives, I’m certain gas prices have increased markedly since Jan. 1st– in my area by +26%. And that’s the SAME filling station, so there’s no statistical noise. That station, btw, usually has the cheapest gas in my area.

    Why is a gas tax increase a particularly dreadful idea right NOW?

    1) Inflation has been mercifully tame, with just ONE exception– gasoline.

    2) Gasoline demand is “inelastic,” as the economists like to say. That means, everybody has to buy it, no matter what it costs.

    3) U.S. economic growth has been slowing. Not contracting, but the trend is obvious both to economists, and to anybody who reads WSJ; CNBC; etc.

    How can we give the economy a little push away from slow growth, & toward recession? Why, a gas tax increase, of course– because that would increase the price of EVERYTHING– possibly excepting free love.

    Who would be most alarmed about a big, sudden jump in the price of a gallon of unleaded? The folks who voted for Trump! They don’t ride the subway, & they didn’t buy a Prius.

    jason is right (an opportunity for a rare photo) about the DEMs supporting “Trump’s gas tax proposal,” & then driving it right up his wazoo in Nov. 2020.

    And in conclusion… yellow vests.

  143. dblaikie says:

    73 Robbie (Wormtongue) please take as long a vacation as you like.

  144. CG says:

    “Quit trying to compare what is going on at the border with what happened at Bergen Belsen.”

    I would welcome anyone to find one example of where I have done anything remotely like this.

    However, I can say that the Trump Administration policy at the border is very wrong, even as it is not Bergen Belsen.

    Or does it just have to be one or the other in the mind of a Trump Apologist?

  145. dblaikie says:

    Corey that is pure drivel. No you don’t call Trump a Nazi but you have no problem insinuating that is just who he is. Just drop the Nazi comparisons.

  146. CG says:

    149 is really an example of sort of crazy logic. There is no way an educated person could actually say something.

    It’s basically, “no you don’t say it but because I want to think you say it I am going to pretend you say it.”

    I have never said Trump is a Nazi. I have said many times that Trump is a horrible human being and a terrible President.

    Since nobody bothers to even defend him on those fronts, they just attack the messenger. Apparently, anything sort of being a Nazi is ok and fair game to distort the concepts of his critics.

  147. NYCmike says:

    “As a Jew, I was brought up to care about bigotry and injustice and unfairness to not only Jews.”

    -What horsesh*t!

    If that is truly the case, you have an odd way of going around showing it.

    Trump is a saint compared to people like Tlaib, Omar, and just about any other Democrat, who only see people as a member of specific minority groups to be offered goodies derived from their positions as elected officials.

  148. CG says:

    dblaikie, is that how you interact with your parishioners? Must one be a Trump fan to have your counsel or even respect? How would you react to someone in your congregation who did not share your political beliefs?

  149. mnw says:

    corree? Go FY, you perma-troll.

    Everybody else? Feed the troll if you love the troll.

  150. dblaikie says:

    I am glad I have touched a nerve. How many times have we had to endure that the Trump caged children and put them in concentration camps just like the Nazis. I tire of this effort to turn him into a monster.

    And I am not a Trump apologist. He puts his foot in his mouth all the time. However I do like his policies.

  151. NYCmike says:

    “However, I can say that the Trump Administration policy at the border is very wrong, even as it is not Bergen Belsen.”

    -Which policy would that be?

    NOT ALLOWING non-citizens into the country without having the proper paperwork, along with plans on going back to their home country?

  152. CG says:

    Since I have never expressed admiration or support for Tlaib, Omar, et al, I fail to see how that should cause me to not be critical of Trump.

    I just think many of you all are carrying a heavy burden on your hearts and souls every day having to defend such an unworthy person and it causes you to lash out. It’s ok. I can take it. I even enjoy it. If it prevents you from doing worse out there in the “real world”, it’s a good thing.

  153. CG says:

    “How many times have we had to endure that the Trump caged children and put them in concentration camps just like the Nazis.”

    Maybe you are talking about someone else, but that is never a comparison I have made and you know it.

    Like many other conservatives and many other Republicans, I believe the Trump Administration policy of separating children from their parents at the border was a huge mistake unworthy of our country.

  154. jason says:

    -jason is the one who said directly that Trump was a “racist” a “fascist” and a “Klansman”


    I already said IF I ever called Trump a Klansman I owe him an apology.

    I also said I should not have called him a fascist, there is no basis for that.

    As for racist, I thought his comment on the Mexican judge was racist, I don’t apologize for that.

    I also called him a liberal Democrat, based on his previous comments. While I don’t think he is really a conservative, I have been forced to admit that except for some aspects of trade and foreign policy, he has not governed as a liberal Dem.

    And of course, as I have said many times, my comments on Trump were based on the record of his comments on the Internet and his campaign rhetoric during the primaries.

    That being said, since he has been President, I have seen nothing racist or fascist that he has said or done. Stupid, yes. Racist no.

    So since I am “transactional”, I have changed some of my views of Trump based on his record as President for over 2 years now.

    I maintain that is a much more logical and sensible approach than still being stuck in the 2016 primaries which have been over for 2/12 years.

  155. CG says:

    The only people on HHR who are talking about “concentration camps” and comparing Trump to Hitler are his supporters/apologists.

    Since one is unable to defend him on the merits, they must try to find the most extreme example of possible criticism in order to try to render what they cannot defend moot.

    We saw this for eight years with the Obama apologists too.

  156. NYCmike says:


    As long as Trump gets your constant drumbeat of criticism while you barely mention the antics of these others, YES, your silence is tantamount to support for them and their policies.

  157. dblaikie says:

    Get real, if one of my parishioners starts trying to label people into monsters I will tell them that is wrong.

    Just so you in my ministry I have always served in churches that were split along political lines. I never mention politics in the pupit, even though I keep my integrity in personal conversation. Liberal or conservative, black or white, straight or gay, the people I minister too in my congregation have all my prayers and support. So drop saying I am biased in my career. Corey, believe it or not, I don’t believe in identity politics.

  158. CG says:

    I can’t open a Twitter link where I am, so I do not know what it says, but that is of course dumb logic on your part NYC

    One can be opposed to extremists on all sides and to extremism in general. To me, that is what America is about. One does not have to pick and choose between extremists.

  159. NYCmike says:

    “Since one is unable to defend him on the merits,”

    -More horsesh*t.

    Separation policy, in my book, is fine. The fact that you are swayed by the emotional media broadcasts give more evidence as to why you are still unable to move on from JEB!2016.


  160. CG says:

    db- So, it’s good that you get it out of your system here instead of in your actual job.

    It’s an odd place to choose to do it, but so be it. You are not exactly a fair person here though by claiming someone has said something that you know they have not said.

  161. CG says:

    We can disagree then on separation policy NYC. Many agree with you. Many, including a great many on the right, also agree with me.

    But that does not mean I have said anything about “concentration camps” or comparing the act to what occurred in Nazi Europe. I have said nothing of the sort.

  162. mnw says:

    Anybody REALLY think that POS was EVER going to leave?

  163. NYCmike says:

    “One does not have to pick and choose between extremists.”


    How is Trump an “extremist”?

    Because he believes NON-CITIZENS do not have the same rights as citizens?

    Because he believes, correctly, that these “parents” who drag their children into dangerous situations are foolish, and also sometimes fake.

    The law is the law. We either have a sovereign country, with borders, or we don’t.

    Which one do you prefer?

  164. jason says:

    Corey, as a pathological liar, gets caught in lies all the time.

    He has indeed compared Trump to Nazis, does it all the time, just compared him again on immigration, even though he never complained when Obama “separated children from parents” in exactly the same manner.

  165. CG says:

    I believe we can have a country in which borders are enforced and which children are not separated from their parents.

    There have been many suggestions put forward to make this possible, including increasing the number of immigration judges to deal with what is a humanitarian crisis at the border.

    When deportations are necessary, as they often are, parents and children should be kept together and deported together.

    Trump has made recent statements in which he lamented the whole concept of immigration judges.

    He wants a problem more than a solution.

    Trump is an extreme person in general though. It’s not specifically about his horrible (and thoroughly inconsistent) immigration statements/proposals.

    He is extreme in his worship of self. That is not a good thing in a leader. You are the one who says you ignore him up to 99% of the time. That’s definitely not a good thing in a leader either, but I suppose it somewhat eases your guilty conscience.

  166. CG says:

    I have never said Trump was a Nazi. I do believe anybody in power, from any country, and from any ideology, can and should be compared to the horrible figures from the past, to show if there are similarities and how there are differences in order to never repeat the horrific lessons of history. That should not be remotely controversial.

    The Obama Admin did not have a policy of separating children from parents. They considered it, but did not do so. That is a fact. The photos of “children in cages” during the Obama Admin are those of unaccompanied minors. There were no parents to separate them from as would be the same case as those who came that way under Trump.

  167. NYCmike says:

    I guess “CG” is correct……Trump is extreme.

    Moved embassy to Jerusalem.
    Recognized the Golan Heights as part of Israel.
    Asked the NATO countries to pay more for the common defense.
    Ripped up the Iran deal.
    Nominated hundreds of conservative justices.
    Got rid of thousands of rules and regulations which were handcuffing businesses, mainly smaller ones.
    Pushed for Eastern European allies to have better equipment to deter Russia.
    Has promoted pro-life policies in the US and abroad.

  168. dblaikie says:

    There is nothing to get out. However I do tire of people who attack Trump by labeling him. I think it is wrong to say he hates hispanics, or african americans or women or anyone else. I do apologize for lumping you in with these nuts in every instance. Maybe I have been too hard, but I am angry at the level of discourse in our country

  169. CG says:

    171. You are a far cheaper date than I.

    I care about far more.

  170. dblaikie says:

    170 There you go again! And just when I said I was sorry. Sad.

  171. CG says:

    “However I do tire of people who attack Trump by labeling him.”

    Definition of a snowflake db.

    Trump labels people all the time. You never complain about that. But he cannot be labeled?

    Just be accurate in how I label him. You already admit that I have never said he was a Nazi but feel you have the right to claim I have. It doesn’t work that way.

    Try harder to defend him using actual facts.

  172. NYCmike says:

    “You are the one who says you ignore him up to 99% of the time.”

    -Why do you keep lying about this?

    I have repeatedly corrected you on this issue.

    I stated that I ignore 90-99% of what ALL POLITICIANS say.

    I like to look at the actual actions taken by a politician in determining their position on a specific issue.

  173. CG says:

    There is also rank hypocrisy from those who suggest that people have unfairly compared Trump to Hitler, which is certainly not something I have done, but openly called other former posters here Nazis, embraced references to Hillary Clinton as “Hitlery”, and most recently stood completely silent and moot for two years while Robert Mueller, a decorated war hero, and thoroughly respected public servant was referred to as “Fuhrer” literally hundreds of times.

    I repeat that the *only* Trump support/apologist to ever express a single word of disagreement with labeling Mueller that way was Bitterlaw.

    Anybody here complaining today about people being “unfair” to Trump really needs to take a long look in the mirror about what you have tolerated.

  174. dblaikie says:

    No Corey I said you like to compare him to the Nazis which you have admitted. I say it again, drop the Nazi analogies.

  175. NYCmike says:

    “I care about far more.”

    -Make your list.

    Let’s see which line items have to do with actual policy versus your personal opinion on President Trump’s morality.

    I would also ask that when you make your morality (immorality) list, you put a date next to it, to show when Trump’s personal actions were such an issue.

  176. CG says:

    Anybody who honestly believes they live in a country where every politician lies up to 99% of the time should want to find a better country to live in stat.

    I don’t believe for a second that NYCMike actually thinks that. It just gives him leeway to shrug his shoulders about Trump.

  177. CG says:

    I have not compared Trump to Nazis. He is very different than Nazis. I have said he is also very complimentary of strongmen leaders and despots. That is troubling enough.

    That is very different from what I said about how every world leader of every ideology should be able to be held up to what we have seen throughout history.

    There seems to be nobody willing to defend Trump’s attitudes towards Putin, Kim Jong Un, etc and the way he kisses up to them. You just think it should be overlooked. No other “leader” would get such a pass.

  178. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t believe for a second that NYCMike actually thinks that.”

    -You don’t believe I place more importance on ACTION versus TALK?

    Please tell me why you think that.

    Also, please tell me why you think TALK is more important than the actual ACTION TAKEN.

    It does explain why you still like Bush 41……he did once SAY “No New Taxes!”.

    His ACTIONS in that regard were quite different.

  179. CG says:

    Well, besides Jews, I also care about Christians, and I care about African-Americans, Hispanics, immigrants, refugees, Mormons, Muslims, and anybody who faces persecution or injustice anywhere in the world.

    Just because Trump may admire us Jews for our money making ability and deal-making skills over say the Central Park Five, whom he called animals and called to be executed, even after DNA evidence and somebody else’s confession, proved they never raped the woman in question, does not make me feel any better about what kind of person he is.

  180. NYCmike says:

    “Well, besides Jews, I also care about Christians, and I care about African-Americans, Hispanics, immigrants, refugees, Mormons, Muslims, and anybody who faces persecution or injustice anywhere in the world.”

    -Has everyone gotten in their virtue-signaling speech for the week?

    “CG” is getting in a month’s worth all in one day!

    What a tool!

  181. CG says:

    Now, since the report is coming out tomorrow, who here is willing to stand by a comparison of Robert Mueller to Hitler?


    If not, just about every one of you sure choose to be silent about that for a long time.

    Any reason why?

  182. CG says:

    I consider myself a tool for good, in whatever small way I can. As “my people” say, it’s about Mitzvot.

    Why should I care about what some dude in NYC thinks?

  183. mnw says:

    The loooong goodbye.

    This is the little geek whose boss took his iPhone away, as I recall. I sometimes confuse this one with Wobbles-the-pilot, though.

  184. NYCmike says:

    “Any reason why?”

    -Saint Mueller could have asked the majority of the people on this board, even Robbie, about collusion, or lack thereof, almost 2 years ago, and saved a heck of a lot of $$, newspapers, and media air-time.

    BUT, Saint Mueller didn’t.

    Tina made a comparison of Mueller to Hitler in terms of him leading a fascist undertaking to get rid of a duly elected President, with tactics worthy of a strongman from a dictatorship. It was over the top.

    BUT, Tina isn’t a host on CNN or MSNBC, who made the Trump/Hitler comparison on national media airwaves. (same they did to Bush, McCain, Romney by the way)

    If you don’t see the difference, tough to help you.

  185. CG says:

    I am quite consistent in maintaining that while I thoroughly despise Donald Trump claiming that he is a Nazi or resembles the horrific action of Nazis is completely without merit. I have never said anything different and have argued about this with leftists both in person and online.

    I can also be just as consistent in saying while I revile the politics and apparent personal attitude of someone like Ilhan Omar, and do not find her worthy of holding any office, claims that she hold any culpability for the actions committed on 9/11/01 are also completely without merit.

    But Trump will simply play the political game and claim she has blood on her hands for it.

  186. CG says:

    So, in other words, it was ok that Mueller was called by Hitler’s title literally hundreds of times because it made you feel better.

    It is beyond stupid to suggest that Mueller should have been interviewing people on a political blog. He had people who were actually involved in relevant matters to interview, etc. I have no reason to believe he did his job inappropriately.

  187. CG says:

    And when have I ever been a host on CNN/MSNBC, etc?

    You snowflakes literally freak out at *any* criticism of Donald Trump. Anything. Total freak outs.

    So, since I am not a cable news host, why don’t I have the same freedom as Tina?

    And this is with the admission that none of you can find anything in which I have ever suggested Trump was Hitler or a Nazi, which is far different than the very specific word used by Tina perhaps thousands of times and which not a single Trump supporter/apologist (except Bitterlaw) ever as much lifted an eyebrow about.

  188. Wes says:

    I’ve never seen so much meandering double talk since I read Kafka’s The Trial.

  189. NYCmike says:

    “I consider myself a tool for good, in whatever small way I can.”

    -YET, despite over 2 years of evidence which shows otherwise, you think Hillary would have governed better than Trump, who has governed overwhelmingly in a fashion more typical of a conservative Republican than a Democrat.

  190. NYCmike says:

    “because it made you feel better.”

    -Did I mention feelings?

    I stated “It was over the top.”.

  191. CG says:

    Totally irrelevant.

    Trump would have been better in some areas. Hillary would have been better in some areas. I wanted anyone else than either.

    Who cares? He won, he “governs”, he is the one who has to bear the burden of scrutiny.

  192. NYCmike says:

    -YUP, Trump is more of a long-term issue than the “objective” media stewards of our time.

  193. NYCmike says:

    “Hillary would have been better in some areas.”


    Also, noticed that you didn’t list anything from earlier.

    You could also answer this: “Also, please tell me why you think TALK is more important than the actual ACTION TAKEN.”

  194. CG says:

    Yes, in my view the Presidency of the United States is a “bigger deal” than the Time 100 List or any list in any magazine.

    To Trump, they may be one in the same. He made the list too, sadly. You didn’t mention that.

    And the people on the left freaking out about Brett Kavanuagh also making the list look just as foolish.

  195. NYCmike says:

    Where would Hillary have been better than Trump?

  196. CG says:

    Even jason said throughout the campaign that Hillary would make a far better President than Trump on foreign policy.

    I tend to agree. I think she would have governed differently than Obama in the realm of foreign policy to a certain extent. I would likely have had much to criticize her for across the board, but I do not think she would have instituted tariffs (despite her desperate campaign rhetoric) nor do I feel she would have kissed the ass of Kim Jung Un in what turned out to be such a humiliating failure (at least for now)

    It’s all irrelevant though. She lost. She has no power. The person who won has the responsibility.

  197. CG says:

    And I think she would have been tougher on Russia. Perhaps that is most important.

    Hillary has many many flaws, but I think she is tougher and more of a realist than Obama.

  198. CG says:

    Can the St. Louis Cardinals *ever* beat the Milwaukee Brewers?

    What a worthless franchise.

  199. NYCmike says:


    So you will ignore the actions taken by the United States to help defend the countries on Russia’s western border, while ignoring Hillary’s past actions (the Staples re-set button).

    You will ignore the actions in Syria dealing with Russian mercenary forces, and the fact that Russia has not been left alone, but has to contend with factions backed up by the United States military.

    You will continue to blather on about “humiliating failure” while ignoring the problem is over 60 years old, and has been punted by two Bush Presidencies, as well as others.

    You will ignore that troops have NOT been put in danger except when totally necessary, and in those situations, the military has been instructed to destroy, not do pin-prick attacks (Thank You, Secretary Mattis!).

    You will ignore this administrations attempts to get the European allies to put more money towards the common defense of the treaty area.

  200. NYCmike says:

    You will also ignore the attempt by Trump, not sure if finalized, to get Germany to buy more natural gas from us, as opposed to getting it from Russia.

  201. CG says:

    I said she would be better in dealing with Russia (especially after they tried to screw her over-and in this case would have failed) than Trump (or Obama). I didn’t say she would be better than Mitt Romney in dealing with them.

    And why was Mattis fired?

    Was that a mistake?

    Oh yeah, you don’t think Trump ever makes mistakes.

  202. NYCmike says:

    “And why was Mattis fired?

    Was that a mistake?

    Oh yeah, you don’t think Trump ever makes mistakes.”

    -I’ll take them one at a time:

    Not sure.

    Not sure, time will tell.

    More b*llsh*t from you.

  203. CG says:

    I can “remember” all those things and also remember the completely embarrassing display put on while standing next to Putin in Helsinki.

    That you will choose to forget.

    I will also not forget that Trump has excused Putin by saying “America does a lot of killing too.” Wrong. Completely outrageous. Imagine if Obama had said that…

    Now, just in the past few days, Trump has denied any knowledge of Wikileaks. This is despite his own Justice Department doing the right thing on the matter, he is claiming complete ignorance as to the Russian owned, terrorist nature of Julian Assange and Wikileaks. Of course, Trump was on tape several times in the campaign saying how much he “loved” Wikileaks and how “great” Wikileaks was. Now, they “are not my deal in life.”

    To this day, Trump has never said one critical word about Vladimir Putin. Why is that? He has had plenty bad to say about virtually everyone else.

    If Hillary told him to GFH with the cameras rolling, he would deserve it, would he not?

  204. NYCmike says:

    “I didn’t say she would be better than Mitt Romney in dealing with them.”

    -Who mentioned Romney?

    Trump has acted pretty similar to how I thought Romney would have in the foreign policy sphere.

  205. jason says:

    Even jason said throughout the campaign that Hillary would make a far better President than Trump on foreign policy”


    Actually what I said was “I prefer Hillary on trade and some aspects of foreign policy”.

    But I made clear I preferred Trump’s policies on just about everything else.

    But again, why are we still talking about what I thought about Trump in 2016 when he has been President for 2 + years.

    I think Trump’s rants about NATO and “paying for your fair share” are idiotic, it completely ignores the fact NATO is out interest too, in many cases more in our interest than some of the other members.

    Outside of that, I am fine with most other aspects of Trump’s foreign policy. Hillary would never have done two things that I consider important, the N Korea and the Iran deal policies.

    Every morning I wake up and thank God Hillary is not President.

    And the fact Trump has turned out to be a much better President than either me or Corey thought he would be (even if I am the only one to acknowledge it) makes me even more thankful

  206. NYCmike says:

    “To this day, Trump has never said one critical word about Vladimir Putin. ”

    -Will it make you “feel” better if he did?

    Is that the goal when dealing with leaders of foreign countries with nuclear weapons and weapons which can take out satellites?

  207. CG says:

    Not at all how Romney would act. Certainly not in regards to a worldwide trade war or coddling Russia publicly or humiliating the country before Kim Jong Un. Laying out a public time table to withdraw troops?

    Remember, the appeal that the die-hard Trumpists always claimed is how *different* he would be on foreign policy than Romney and “the usual Republicans.”

    To them, it was a good thing that Trump opposed Iraq and that he supposedly opposed going into Afghanistan, in which he and Barbara Lee of Oakland were literally the only smart people on.

    You don’t even have your talking points straight.

    On foreign policy, Trump is a by the book Daily Kos leftist.

    The difference is that he has people who work for him who are thankfully not.

    So, either Trump is weak enough to just let people roll over him for the most part and do their own bidding or he, like jason, is completely transactional and will just go along with whatever strokes his ego. It’s probably a bit of both.

  208. CG says:

    Yes, it would make me feel better if Trump would actually say something nasty about Putin. After all, he says something nasty about everyone else. He has spent the past several days fighting with Cher on Twitter.

    That he doesn’t ever say anything negative about Putin stands out especially and makes it seem as if Putin does have something over Trump’s head, which by extension means over our entire country.

  209. jason says:

    To this day, Trump has never said one critical word about Vladimir Putin.”

    That is a complete lie, straight out of the MSM fake news dept.

    “President Donald Trump on Sunday strongly condemned what he described in tweets as a “mindless CHEMICAL attack in Syria” that allegedly left women and children dead.

    He laid the blame squarely at the feet of Russian President Vladimir Putin, Russia and Iran for backing resident Bashar al-Assad, who he called an “animal.” Trump also warned, “Big price to pay.”


    Donald Trump may have stood up Vladimir Putin once too often. After the U.S. president snubbed the Kremlin leader twice in less than a month, Russia is finally losing faith in Trump’s promise to improve relations and bracing instead for increased tensions.

    Feted by Russian lawmakers with applause and champagne after his election in 2016, Trump’s mercurial decision-making is increasingly seen as a liability in Moscow. Russian officials were taken aback when Trump tweeted that he was canceling talks with Putin at the Group of 20 summit in Argentina hours before they were due to meet last week, a decision one of them called really bad. Since then, Russian frustration has steadily grown, according to four senior officials, who asked not to be identified discussing internal matters.

    “This is a signal for us that it’s difficult to deal with this person, that he’s unreliable and unsuitable as a partner,” said Andrey Kortunov, head of the Russian International Affairs Council,”

  210. CG says:

    Again, he has never named Putin as the source of any problem.

    He has gone out of his way to say that Putin is not the problem.

  211. jason says:

    On foreign policy, Trump is a by the book Daily Kos leftist.”

    Complete BS.

    What is straight out of the Daily Kos book is your talking points about Trump.

  212. CG says:

    If someone can find one example of Trump on camera making a negative comment about Putin and linking it here or something clearly attributed to Trump personally in writing in which he directly criticizes Putin by name, I will retract.

  213. lisab says:

    dblaikie says:
    April 17, 2019 at 3:23 pm
    Corey that is pure drivel. No you don’t call Trump a Nazi but you have no problem insinuating that is just who he is. Just drop the Nazi comparisons.

    Coree says:

    It’s basically, “no you don’t say it but because I want to think you say it I am going to pretend you say it.”

    ummmmmmmmmm …

    Corey says

    I have compared Trump and Hitler in other ways, before, today, and will do so again.I have still maintained that Trump is “not as bad” as Hitler, since that makes people feel better about Trump.

  214. jason says:

    Again, he has never named Putin as the source of any problem.”

    LOL, even the moving goal posts are wrong.

    “Again, he has never named Putin as the source of any problem…”

  215. jason says:

    I have compared Trump and Hitler..”

    He lies so much he just can’t keep the lies straight.

  216. CG says:

    I have compared Trump to Hitler in which I have said the ways he is not Hitler.

    Clearly, I have consistently said Trump is “not as bad as Hitler.” So, rejoice Trumpsters.

    I haven’t even said Trump is as bad as David Duke. I just say he is Duke-Lite.

    What I was accused of doing is saying that Trump is Hitler or as bad as Hitler or engaged in specific policies in which I have used terms like “concentration camps” or “Bergen Belsen.”

  217. lisab says:

    Corey says:

    The only people on HHR who are talking about “concentration camps” and comparing Trump to Hitler are his supporters/apologists.

    again …

    Corey says

    I have compared Trump and Hitler in other ways, before, today, and will do so again.I have still maintained that Trump is “not as bad” as Hitler, since that makes people feel better about Trump.

  218. CG says:

    Trump has bent over backwards to avoid saying the name Putin in association with anything bad.

    Others in his Administration have said it and he has begrudgingly admitted that Russia tried to interfere in the election but he has said nothing to indicate he holds Putin responsible.

  219. lisab says:

    Corey says:

    The only people on HHR who are talking about “concentration camps” and comparing Trump to Hitler are his supporters/apologists.
    just wow!

    Corey says

    I have compared Trump and Hitler in other ways, before, today, and will do so again.I have still maintained that Trump is “not as bad” as Hitler, since that makes people feel better about Trump.

  220. lisab says:

    “As a Jew, I was brought up to care about bigotry and injustice and unfairness to not only Jews.”
    Corey says:

    dblaikie, is that how you interact with your parishioners? Must one be a Trump fan to have your counsel or even respect? How would you react to someone in your congregation who did not share your political beliefs?

  221. CG says:

    Some people apparently do not understand the concept of “compare and contrast.”

    Sure, I have compared and contrasted them. I think every world leader should be, as I have said, including those that I hold in great affection.

    It is simply untrue though, as db would go on to concede, that I ever said that Trump engaged in opening “concentration camps” or used the tactics of Nazi Europe.

    So, I am not even sure what you are all so bent out of shape over unless there are guilty consciences involved.

    From Day 1 I have said Trump is not as bad as Hitler while virtually nobody ever took issue with Robert Mueller literally being called Hitler.
    NYC defended the very comparison today.

  222. CG says:

    Also, “not as bad as Hitler”

    Rashida Tlaib, Ilhan Omar, bunu, and Hillary Clinton?

    Does anyone wish to disagree?

    Far better than Hitler and far more honorable than Donald Trump= Robert Mueller

  223. lisab says:


    the ONLY people comparing trump to hitler are trump supporters …

    now compared to hitler trump ….

  224. CG says:

    When “concentration camps”. etc are referenced, yes.

    Now we can definitely have a discussion in which comparisons can be made to how Hitler and Trump both used the politics of grievances and scapegoating in the pursuit of power.

    And the same discussion can be held regarding the rhetoric used by Hitler and the rhetoric used by many on the Far Left for a long time.

    There would be similarities and there would be differences in all cases.

  225. lisab says:

    Just because Trump may admire us Jews for our money making ability

    first … oy vey

    second … YOU have money making ability?!!!

  226. CG says:

    Jump in Robbie. I know you want to. I have to leave soon…

  227. CG says:

    Well, I’m no George Soros but I live comfortably.

  228. lisab says:

    “Well, besides Jews, I also care about Christians, and I care about African-Americans, Hispanics, immigrants, refugees, Mormons, Muslims, and anybody who faces persecution or injustice anywhere in the world.”

    -Has everyone gotten in their virtue-signaling speech for the week?

    did anyone here not laugh at the above?

  229. CG says:

    Well, I stand by what I said. It’s better than pretending to have once been in the Peace Corps.

  230. lisab says:

    Coree says:

    I consider myself a tool …


    i can see that

  231. CG says:

    If Trump were a tool, he’d be either a hammer or a sickle. Which one?

  232. NYCmike says:

    “If someone can find one example of Trump on camera making a negative comment about Putin and linking it here or something clearly attributed to Trump personally in writing in which he directly criticizes Putin by name, I will retract.”

    -The goal of “CG”, “conservative Republican”, is to have our current President make a negative comment about the leader of Russia, Vladimir Putin.

    And he thinks Trump’s foreign policy goals are bad…….

  233. lisab says:

    Yes, it would make me feel better if Trump would actually say something nasty about Putin. After all, he says something nasty about everyone else. He has spent the past several days fighting with Cher on Twitter.

    cher doesn’t have nuclear weapons

  234. CG says:

    Yeah, Putin’s going to nuke us. That’s really likely to happen if Trump says something bad about him.

    How come Ronald Reagan had no qualms in calling out an Evil Empire?

    Y’all sound wimpier than Obama’s apologists could ever dream.

  235. lisab says:

    Donald J. Trump
    Many dead, including women and children, in mindless CHEMICAL attack in Syria. Area of atrocity is in lockdown and encircled by Syrian Army, making it completely inaccessible to outside world. President Putin, Russia and Iran are responsible for backing Animal Assad. Big price… ….to pay. Open area immediately for medical help and verification. Another humanitarian disaster for no reason whatsoever. SICK!

  236. CG says:

    I supported the action Trump’s Administration took to react to the Syrian gassing but the statement as it related to Putin was very weak.

    Everyone appointed on Trump’s team responsible for that action has since been fired or quit.

  237. lisab says:

    How come Ronald Reagan had no qualms in calling out an Evil Empire?


    perhaps because gorbichev was promoted through the ranks of the pioneers to the komsomol, the soviet equivalent of working your way up through the boyscouts to eagle scout

    putin was promoted by the kgb …

    kgb … boyscouts … big difference

  238. CG says:

    If you are honestly suggesting that Russia is going to launch a nuclear attack on the United States if Donald Trump criticizes Putin personally, and that is what Trump fears, you are even goofier than I thought.

  239. lisab says:

    “If someone can find one example of Trump on camera making a negative comment about Putin and linking it here or something clearly attributed to Trump personally in writing in which he directly criticizes Putin by name, I will retract.”

    Corey says:

    i lied

  240. CG says:

    I guess I need to remember you are a lifelong “Utopian Socialist” who voted for Jill Stein.

    Jill Stein loves Putin more than Trump does.

  241. lisab says:

    i am suggesting trump should not antagonize either putin or xi

    since both are world leaders that can and have every reason to damage the united states through their actions

  242. CG says:

    So the trade war about China is ok, but just say nothing bad about them on Twitter or they make nuke us?


  243. CG says:

    If Robert Mueller has indeed concluded that Trump did not personally conspire with Vladmir Putin in regards to the election, I will be happy to hear that and more than willing to take Mueller at his word.

    However, there seems to be all sorts of evidence that Trump is personally bamboozled/indebted to Putin over something.

    He thinks they can be “best friends.”

  244. lisab says:

    i voted for jill stein,

    but unlike what some said a few weeks ago, i did NOT vote for her because i would never vote for the democrat party

    in fact, my uncle was a bundler for the democrats and i used to work for him at political dinners and such.

    i voted for jill stein, as many did, specifically so the dems would know that they could have gotten our votes, but we refused to vote for hillary

  245. NYCmike says:

    “He thinks they can be “best friends.””

    -And you eat it up as the Gospel TRUTH!

    Maybe Trump saw into his soul?

  246. CG says:

    And you have said that you will probably vote for the Democrat for President in 2020.

    But for some reason will still defend everything Donald Trump says and does because the boys here will high-five you or something.

  247. lisab says:

    i voted for nader too for the same reason

  248. CG says:

    Of course to be fair, I voted for Evan McMullin for basically the same reason lisab states was hers, as a Republican who could not vote for Trump.

  249. lisab says:

    And you have said that you will probably vote for the Democrat for President in 2020.


    although i might vote for the democrat. depends who it is.

    i 100% will not vote for any ticket that contains warren.

  250. CG says:

    You were cool with Obama though twice, right?

  251. CG says:

    Noted lisa, but it’s not looking good for Warren now.

  252. lisab says:

    actually … biden is probably out too … the groping thing is pretty bad

  253. CG says:

    Under what scenario would you actually vote for Trump. Or will you just vote Green or for some other party again, as you have a history of doing?

  254. CG says:

    As of today, if the “frontrunners” are indeed DJT and Bernie Sanders and that is what we wind up with, I imagine a whole lot of Americans will be looking for other choices.

  255. lisab says:

    You were cool with Obama though twice, right?

    no, i was a romney supporter.

    he was from massachusetts, was a good governor, and i had met him.

    i had A LOT of respect for him for his gay marriage position. i supported gay marriage since i ever thought about issues.

  256. CG says:

    Who faced longer odds?

    A “centrist” who might run for President as an Independent against Trump or Sanders or the Columbus Blue Jackets had of sweeping Tampa Bay after being down 3-0 in Game 1?

    Gotta give Author credit. He saw this happening months ago!

  257. CG says:

    You voted for Romney for President? I thought you said otherwise right before the 2018 midterms when you stated your ambivalence about voting in your new state.

    Who did you vote for in ’08? Nader ran in ’00 and ’04.

  258. CG says:

    As Governor, Romney actually opposed same sex marriage in his state quite strongly at the time. He was in the national forefront of that effort. Somehow there is some confusion there, but I suppose you can look it up.

    Just about the only now-major politician who supported same sex marriage over a decade ago was Bernie Sanders.

  259. lisab says:

    Under what scenario would you actually vote for Trump.

    1.) if the dem ticket contains warren — who i dislike more than i disliked hillary

    2.) if the dem candidate actually proposes reparations

    3.) if the dem candidate supports a huge tax increase

    4.) if the dem candidate supports a war in the middle-east (or basically blowing up another third world country for fun)

    5.) if the dem candidate has a serious and believable #metoo issue

    6.) i am sure a few others

  260. GF says:

    As a Jew, I was brought up to care about bigotry and injustice and unfairness to not only Jews.


    Sorry to burst your bubble, Corey, but perhaps you should stay caring more about fellow Jews than other minorities because, I hate to break it to you, most of them don’t care much for you. Muslims as a whole outright hate you (many would be happier if you didn’t exist at all), blacks as a group don’t trust you and sympathize with the former group who would rather see you dead. Hispanics are neutral at best (I see this in my own family and in the churches), and Asians are apparently too busy trying to become upscale Marxist whites if their voting patterns and online presence means anything. I guess you still have the Mormons, though.

    As for Trump, I do my best to ignore him. I’m not happy he’s POTUS, but I’m thrilled that a Democrat isn’t occupying the same position. They have chosen to mark themselves the enemies within, and whatever his flaws, Trump will not get us killed (unlike the Dems who hate us and could care less if the a$$holes they let into this country kill us all). He is an embarrassment in many respects, but then, I could give two bowel movements what snotty Euro-Marxist trash think about our country anyhow; they are everything they claim to hate, close-minded, judgmental, and frankly, not that intelligent (just like their Dem counterparts here); they all can GFT as far as I’m concerned.

    (Don’t worry, Jason, my wife and her family are Jewish, so I have at least a partial claim to be able to respond to this.)

  261. lisab says:

    As Governor, Romney actually opposed same sex marriage in his state quite strongly at the time. He was in the national forefront of that effort. Somehow there is some confusion there, but I suppose you can look it up.

    no …

    what i respected about him was that he GREATLY opposed the issue, even spent a couple of million of his own personal money fighting it

    yet he followed by the court ruling and did not try to stall to wait out the issue.

    as a lockean, i respect those who abide by elections and judicial decisions.

    this is also why i mock you and other “resisters” and have no real problem with trump being president.

    he won, the next election is in 2020. we will vote again then.

  262. lisab says:

    somehow i doubt half-truth understands the concept of not throwing a tantrum when his side does not get his way

    you have an election
    win or lose you abide by the election
    and then you have an election again

    or … you can compare the opposition to hitler like half truth does

  263. mnw says:

    The unique thing about corree is his grandiosity & self-importance.

    The only other people I’ve ever interacted with who had that were criminal defendants who weren’t well-grounded in reality– they fascinated themselves endlessly.

  264. Tina says:

    So did Fuhrer, Benito, or Grand Ayatollah write the report?


    Mulehead, Weissarse, or Hillarhee

  265. Tina says:

    Another good Trump Approval day still 46% aggregate;

    Rasmussen 52% N/C (Only “Likely Voters” Poll rest are RV))
    HarrisX 46% +1
    YouGov 45% +1
    Fox 45% -1
    Politico/Morning Consult 44% +4
    Economist 43% N/C

  266. Hugh says:

    So Obama who was Russia’s but t boy for 8 years and did nothing to stop Russia’s interference in our election or in the Ukraine or Syria was less beholdened to Russia than trump who took more action to stop their aggressiveness in 2 years than Obama in 8? Sounds logical to me. Brilliant posts by CG.

  267. lisab says:


    as i said, robbie and half-truth would be the first eaten on the life boats

    why they would want to throw our system into anarchy when they are the least capable people even in our current stable system is beyond me.

    they were the children who ate lunch alone and got punched every day in school

  268. Tina says:


    Coup plotter, Weissarse, is under investigation,

    Weissarse is part of scheme team,

  269. jason says:

    I don’t think Corey is as bad as John Wayne Gacy.


  270. Tgca says:

    113 GFY Jadon

    My dogs are not lesbians! Just because they have short hair and are a bit furry does not mean anything.

  271. mnw says:

    Another interesting thing about correee is that, the HHR posters come from a million different political angles & frequently fight like hell among themselves, but… libertarian, arch-conservative, or maverick DEM, EVERYBODY hates corree’s guts.

    Has any normal person in the history of mankind on earth ever before typed, “I consider myself to be a force for good”? I mean, Mother Teresa herself would have been too modest to post such grandiose, narcissistic BULLZH*T!!!

  272. NYCmike says:

    I brought Mother Teresa up about a week or so ago in a conversation with “CG”……..and I just then started to consider if I could actually “consider myself to be a force for good”.

  273. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt has been in the dumps lately.

    He says he:

    “…now realizes that he controls very little in his life. We are at the mercy of systems, and service providers, and other people…and …Gadgets run our lives…”(at least what is left of our lives that his wife doesn’t not run)…

    “Life has become a constant losing battle with gravity, mother nature, physical things wearing out and breaking down (and a constant losing battle to repair those things), the aging process….”
    And since the world has moved at warp speed to become an increasingly complex and irrational thing, Walt says has given up even pretending to make an effort to try to understand it.

    But he did tell me to say “Hi” to everyone.
    I think that was the meaning of the hand sign he gave me…
    Maybe he was saying “he is Number 1?”

  274. Tina says:

    Will Barr expose Scheme Team origins in the Obumbler White House?

    Stay tuned…

  275. lisab says:

    Parenting Magazine Warns ‘Blond, Cheerful’ Families Dangerous, Likely Right Wing

  276. lisab says:

    Executives and top associates of the Albany-based NXIVM group – along with their family members – donated $29,900 to Clinton’s presidential campaign, according to federal records.

  277. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    273. “as i said, robbie and half-truth would be the first eaten on the life boats.”

    Disagree. They would have been thrown overboard prior to anyone getting hungry.

  278. Bitterlaw says:

    I will always consider calling Mueller Fuhrer idiotic.

    I resent being called a Trump supporter/apologist. I hate the man and have criticicized him for years. However, Hillary had to be defeated and I am glad Trump defeated her.

    I do not know if I will vote in the Presidential primary in 2020. Trump will easily win the nomination without me. I never vote for a challenger in a primary.

  279. janz says:

    I can’t believe how the dems are constructing their own narrative about the Mueller Report. The summary by Barr acknowledged there were no Trump Administration indictments in the offering. There was no Russian Collusion with anybody in this country. And, the obstruction charge, IMO, was deliberately left for Barr to interpret, leaving an opening for the resistance to pout and cry foul, like they’re doing.

    Basically, the dems want to extend the Mueller misery as long as possible in order to keep feeding the hatred of their base.

    They’ sick!

  280. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Looks like China is feeling the heat.

    “U.S. trade deficit hits eight-month low on weak Chinese imports

    WED, APR 17 2019 • 1:18 PM EDT

    The trade deficit tumbled 3.4 percent to $49.4 billion in February, the lowest level since June 2018. Economists polled by Reuters had forecast the trade shortfall widening to $53.5 billion in February.
    The politically sensitive goods trade deficit with China – a focus of the Trump administration’s protectionist trade policy – decreased 28.2 percent to $24.8 billion in February as imports from the world’s No. 2 economy plunged 20.2 percent. U.S. exports to China jumped 18.2 percent in February.

  281. Bitterlaw says:

    Why did George Soros donate more than $1 Million to help get this DA elected? To help prepare the way for a cop-killer to go free. The DA hates the police and openly campaigned on it in a large field of Dems in the primary. Winning the primary meant he was destined to win the general.

  282. Messy says:

    testing, one two three.

  283. Chicon says:

    SDC – makes sense the trade deficit would narrow with the tariffs. Prices of Chinese stuff has gone up, allowing the buyers to choose American stuff to a certain degree. This is probably good for some American workers. However, it also means higher prices for American consumers, who in the end pay the tariff.

    If this narrowing results in China changing their ways, it will have been worth it. If not, the result is shifting some pain from American workers to the broader economy.

  284. Bitterlaw says:

    Chi- I give very marks to Chicago. I was very impressed with the city. Philadelphia needs to get a Great Lake.

  285. Chicon says:

    Glad you enjoyed your visit, Bitter. It is a great city to visit. It does have a cool lake without dangerous animals. It doesn’t have the history of Philly, which I’ve visited often back in the day.

  286. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #288- Messy
    After dozens of predictions like today’s, you believe that today will be the day that President Trump goes down.

  287. jason says:

    ‘libertarian, arch-conservative, or maverick DEM, EVERYBODY hates corree’s guts.”

    Corey says Trump is “not as bad” as the guy who slaughtered 6 million Jews and started a war that killed over 60 million people.

    He claims that is not a comparison.

    Then he says that “makes people at HHR feel better” about Trump.

    I guess the chutzpah here is that he actually wants to be taken seriously.

  288. jason says:

    I think Corey is not as disgusting as Jeffrey Dahmer.

  289. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News- Everybody already has their talking points ready to go for when the report is released.

  290. Tina says:

    Jebots to be triggered.

    Laughing my arse off at their stupidity.

    All because Hillary ain’t President (or the latest Drat soup of the day special).

  291. Tina says:


    When it’s ever again stated that 17 intelligence agencies determined x….

    Notice how these same intelligence communities failed to stop 9/11, where wrong on Iraq and WMDs, and failed with the trump coup?

  292. Tina says:

    Cn and n still pushing hoaxes. When all else fails go to the transcript

    Jason Beale
    currently pushing the thoroughly-debunked “Trump told Lester Holt he fired Comey to end the investigation” hoax. If you needed a clue about how they’re going to handle the report today, there’s one.

  293. Phil says:


    Democrats are not liking this news conference.

    So sad.

  294. Bitterlaw says:


  295. Tina says:

    I need a re order on my meds.


  296. Phil says:

    Wow. Robbie and Corey’s friends at CNN are going berserk. A tantrum for the ages this morning. I can only imagine what is going on over at MSNBC. Geez.

  297. Tina says:

    He cannot obstruct a counter intelligence investigation. The president is the consumer. See scope memo from Redactstein.

    He never exerted executive privilege.

    If he tweeted 17 angry drats or was “upset” over the investigation, that is not obstruction.

    Poor Benito Weissarse.

  298. Tina says:

    The Faux reporter asked how did this all start?

    Barr that is a matter for another day.

  299. Tina says:

    Barr flattened the obstruction hoaxes by Fuhrer Mulehead.
    This was a lawyah yoda beating down weissarse.

    Epic beat down.

  300. Tina says:

    Barr basically mocked Fuhrer and Benito on obstruction.

  301. Tina says:

    Barr, your theories are ridiculous even if I accept your theories.

  302. Tina says:

    Cari Kelemen
    Reporter: You have remarks that are quite generous to the president including his feelings… this is unprecedented information.
    Barr: Is there another precedent for it?
    Reporter: No.
    Barr: Okay, then unprecedented is an accurate description, isn’t it?

  303. mnw says:

    M Report:

    All week the financial press has been running stories along the lines of, “Hang On to Your Hats! What Will the Mueller Report Mean For YOUR Portfolio?”

    Answer: Absolutely nothing. Just a dull, light volume trading day before the holiday. Exactly what you’d expect if there was no Mueller Report.

    Honest to God, I must’ve seen 25 of those “Whoa! Mueller! Look Out Below!” stories.

  304. Tina says:

    Looks like the financial press is wrong about 1st quarter gdp.

    Remember, the sky is falling,

    Yesterday, some banks raised their 1st # to 2.4.

  305. Tina says:

    Undercover Huber
    “The President took no act that in fact deprived the Special Counsel of the documents and witnesses necessary to complete his investigation”

  306. mnw says:


    I maintain that the financial press is every bit as full of leftwing horsezh*t as the non-financial press is. It’s a tie.

    One of them, I think CNBC, now posts some sort of “climate change” number every day, right alongside the market averages. Swear to God.

    As for being wrong a lot? You betcha. I never read any story that starts out “Experts Say the Economy May Be….” Because NOBODY knows.

  307. Tina says:

    Fox business is better, mnw.

    CNBC still has some good reporters, such as faber and Kernan.

  308. jason says:


    The Dems want to transform Mueller “looked into 10 possible instances of obstruction” without recommending charges for any of them into “Trump committed 10 instances of obstruction of justice”.

    And of course he was obstructing an investigation in which he knew he was innocent.

    Let’s see what side the Never Trumpers come down on this idiocy.

  309. Tina says:

    So, he tweeted 10 times, “witch-hunt.”

    That is obstruction in bizarro world.

  310. mnw says:


    I don’t watch TV at all. Literally never turn it on, except for Blues hockey games. I read FOX News online, & several financial sites online.

    The most valuable info I get comes from a free investor site called

  311. DW says:

    Yet another challenging day for Democrats. Another 10,000+ babies will be born alive in the USA today, and nothing was done to abort them before it was too late. Then adding insult to injury, they all turned out to be boys or girls. Democrats will hope for more palatable results tomorrow.

  312. jason says:

    I like seekingalpha too.

  313. jason says:

    The fact neither Amoral Scumbag or Corey are here to herald the overturning of the election is probably significant.

    I am surprised they don’t think calling the investigation a witch hunt is obstruction of justice though.

  314. jason says:

    Mueller: Trump “wanted” to obstruct justice but was unsuccessful.

    Actually he doesn’t even say obstruct, he says “influence”.

    What BS.

  315. jason says:

    I expect some of the people named in the report to question Mueller’s “interpretation”.

  316. Tina says:

    Chuck Todd, says the doj briefing trump on f Muleheads report is collusion.

    They are melting down.

  317. Chicon says:

    Jason, I think Mueller’s selection of his team was very telling and underreported. He hired a lawyer from the Clinton Foundation. The lead prosecutor was at Clinton’s campaign party on election night. Strock (sp?) was on the team. No surprise they concluded that Trump did not succeed in proving his innocence. Opens the door to allegations that the investigation was part of coup.

  318. Chicon says:

    Tina, what’s the word on the IG report?

  319. jason says:

    Right Chicon, contrary to mnw’s view, I think the strategy now should be to pursue a no holds barred scorched earth counter offensive on how this all started based on false pretenses.

  320. NYCmike says:

    “Breaking News- Everybody already has their talking points ready to go for when the report is released.”


    Looks like most here are using the words straight from the report…….hence, they were not “ready to go”.

  321. NYCmike says:

    “Right Chicon, contrary to mnw’s view, I think the strategy now should be to pursue a no holds barred scorched earth counter offensive on how this all started based on false pretenses.”

    -VERY SCARY this is, the similar thought processes that are happening since Trump was elected!

  322. mnw says:

    My feelings about pursuing a “counterattack” investigation are mixed. I see it as a political liability for Trump & the GOP, but I can see the merits of exposing all of it to the cleansing sunlight, too.

    Btw, I hate the chant “Lock her up!” Foreigners call using criminal law as a political weapon “the American disease,” I’ve read. Netanyahu accused his opponents of contracting “the American disease” during the recent campaign.

  323. Chicon says:

    Word of the day – predicate. Barr used it when he talked spying in front of Congress recently. In order to surveil, there needs to be a predicate – some evidence that a crime may be underway. What was it in this case? Mueller found zero evidence of any collusion. So, what’s the predicate for the investigation? The Steele dossier? Mueller found it is fake.

  324. jason says:

    “Breaking News- Everybody already has their talking points ready to go for when the report is released.”

    Yep, that is Bitter with his fake equivalencies again.

    The people with the talking points stating the fact there was no collusion and no obstruction are somehow lumped into the fake news group.

  325. jason says:

    I see it as a political liability for Trump & the GOP”

    Why exactly?

    Let’s get to the bottom of this, I don’t see how exposing all this crap hurts Trump.

    If anything, it vindicates him and exposes the lying, dishonest MSM.

  326. Tina says:


    Ig report soon. About 3/4 weeks away.

    Then indictments.

    They wasted $25 million, plus diverted fib resources on this?

  327. jason says:

    I guess I am guilty of obstruction of justice too.

    I talked myself blue in the face here that there was ZERO reason for Sessions to recuse himself, he was a weakling that bowed to the MSM pressure, and the fact Trump tried get him to reconsider was not obstruction, it was common sense.

  328. NYCmike says:

    I was guilty of thinking Sessions knew what he was doing.

  329. mnw says:


    The playoffs have turned into a tense event here in STL. The Blues have not played a good game yet– including the 2 that they won. The first line has been missing in action, & the special teams have been stinking the joint out.

    Miller’s Pub is a place I like, next door to the Palmer House Hilton. It’s just a pub, though. I remember the Berghof well. I hadn’t heard there was a new one.

  330. mnw says:

    The best thing Trump could do is just to ignore all this crap & talk about ‘jobs, jobs, jobs!”– the public is BORED with it. And the Trump base doesn’t require any MORE red meat than it already has.

  331. NYCmike says:


    Will you come by and admit the following:

    Trump = NOT GUILTY


    Also, let me know how many abortions he paid for, and link to the evidence.


  332. NYCmike says:

    “The best thing Trump could do is just to ignore all this crap & talk about ‘jobs, jobs, jobs!”– the public is BORED with it.”

    -I agree with this too.

    BUT, let the investigations go on, with Trump using his twitter feed at key times to publicize the findings…….is that discipline possible?

    OK, OK – that is asking A LOT!

  333. lisab says:

    Coree says,

    Trump did not collude with Russia as much as Hitler did

  334. Messy says:

    315. A formal impeachment investigation is now certain. Meuller demanded it. That the rules said that a president cannot be indicted and that it was a matter for Congress adjudicate.

  335. Phil says:

    ‘’ Mueller demanded it”. Oh no!


    Messy, you are as stupid as Corey is sanctimonious, and that’s saying a mouthful.

    Mueller demanded it. Hilarious.

  336. Waingro says:

    What an epic FAIL and waste of time and resources the Mueller report was. Dems and media hyperventilating is hilarious.

  337. Waingro says:

    ” A formal impeachment investigation is now certain. Meuller demanded it.”

    Link? Wait don’t even bother. You are a liar.

  338. NYCmike says:

    Messy and the Democrats = Trump’s best friends, long-term.

  339. NYCmike says:

    I may have to voluteer to make sure people like AOC keep their elected positions. The Crowley guy she defeated in the primary was much more low-key than her, which wasn’t a good thing politically for Republicans.

  340. Chicon says:

    I always read here that Trump is really a Democrat. Look what his own side is trying to do to him……

  341. Messy says:

    342. then how else would you explain the statements?

    298. it’s on tape, tina, he’s on tape and it’s been played a zillion times.

    330. Where in the report does it say the Steele dossier was fake?

    305-7. The report says the opposite of what Barr said it did.

    292. No, that’ll be in a couple of months.

  342. Phil says:

    Mueller demanded it.

    Even if that was true, so?


  343. mnw says:

    Phil 342

    You SAID it!

    Stupid & sanctimonious ought to get married & breed drooling troll children.

  344. Waingro says:

    #348, I notice how you didn’t address my question in #344. Says it all. Now:

  345. Waingro says:

    #352, not one word or even reference to “impeachment” in that article — never mind Mueller, as you stated “demanding” it.


  346. lisab says:

    the quicker the dems move on from this the better

    they are setting themselves up to get blown out in 2020

    the people have already decided this is nothing

    and they have already stopped watching cnn in droves

    they have to start talking about kitchen table topics or lose.

  347. Tina says:

    The nbc tape was edited. NBC took out trump saying in effect that if I fire Mulehead, the investigation extends.

    You have to go to the transcript.

  348. Tina says:

    And Mulehead, stupidly or not, really is leaving a big opening for the predicate to all of this.

    Somebody be lying to the fisa court.

    Carter page and the Russians, a complete lie

  349. Tina says:

    I think it’s time for trump to pardon Flynn and papadope.

    Papadope was clearly framed.

    Time to arrest Steele and Mifud.

  350. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “315. A formal impeachment investigation is now certain. Meuller demanded it. That the rules said that a president cannot be indicted and that it was a matter for Congress adjudicate.”

    I assume that on occasion reality intrudes into this sort of inanity.

  351. NYCmike says:

    “305-7. The report says the opposite of what Barr said it did.”

    -If that is the case, Mueller is allowed to speak publicly about the deception.

    He does not have to remain silent if false statements are being made……..and I am sure the MSM would provide a platform 24/7……”CG” and Robbie are waiting patiently……

  352. NYCmike says:

    More for Messy:

    “One of the Democrats’ basic problems is that “attempting” to obstruct the investigation doesn’t make a lot of sense. If Trump had really wanted to obstruct the investigation, he could simply have terminated it. And Mueller acknowledges that the administration fully cooperated with the investigation in every way. So the “attempts to obstruct” come down to Trump expressing outrage at the fact that a baseless, partisan investigation was hampering his administration. Arguably Trump should have brought the Mueller farce to an end, but he didn’t.”

  353. mnw says:


    Didn’t know until today that he was a regular on a CBS morning show.

    Flake says he could support Biden, Booker, Klobuchar, & others against Trump. I bet he ends up addressing the DEM natl convention before he’s done. Just as “Ron” Reagan did.

    I don’t ever again want to hear that we deadeners should never primary some azalea like Flake.

    Flake is a Jim Jeffords Republican. Just watch & wait for it.

  354. mnw says:

    sb “deadenders”

  355. Tina says:

    I think she knows the answer

    MEDIA MELTDOWN: MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace Loses It – Wonders if She’s Crazy After Watching Barr Presser, “Am I Nuts?” (VIDEO)
    MEDIA MELTDOWN: MSNBC’s Nicolle Wallace Loses It – Wonders if She’s Crazy After Watching Barr Presser, “Am I Nuts?” (VIDEO)

  356. mnw says:

    Jobless claims slipped again, for the 5th week in a row. We’re back to levels last seen when Richard Nixon was sworn in, & 500,000 “workers” were employed in Viet Nam.

    See, if we weren’t talking about the big witch roundup, & this new investigation that the good guys are whomping up, maybe more voters might NOTICE that jobless claims are down agin.

  357. Tina says:

    Lots of Jebots in that office.

    John Cardillo
    The DOJ Office of Legal Counsel is full of registered Democrat career bureaucrat lawyers, and they too found no evidence of obstruction of justice.

  358. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    362. “Flake: Didn’t know until today that he was a regular on a CBS morning show.”

    The liberal press will use Flake for a couple of years, then toss him aside like refuse. Believe he has been what amounts to a political functionary for most his life, so does not have private sector experience. He was once a member of the congressional “Liberty Caucus”, and now he is considering supporting Democratic candidates who support socialist policies. That is pathetic; and he wonders why his polling in Arizona was so low? Arizona voters saw through his shallowness.

  359. Chicon says:

    Is Flake a pilot? He and Flyboy seem very similar.

  360. NYCmike says:

    “That is pathetic; and he wonders why his polling in Arizona was so low? Arizona voters saw through his shallowness.”

    -BUT he was able to win elections…….SEND A MESSAGE!

  361. mnw says:


    I agree with all that.

    Watching him during the Kavanaugh hearings was excruciating.

  362. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    369. It was after Trump’s election that he made his turn into irrelevance.

  363. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I come from the same cultural background as Flake, and did not vote for Trump in 2016. But once Trump was elected you have to pick sides in the battle, and it was between Trump and the leftist abyss. Flake tried to stay on the side lines waving pom poms — his lack of private sector experience may have contributed to his indecisiveness.

  364. Tina says:

    I like Barr, a lot.

    Was nervous a bit that he came from Bush. I forgot he came from Reagan.

    Groper 41 had some better cabinet picks than Mute 43.

  365. Tina says:

    Sure, trumps polling approval aggregate is 47%. Ds need to back off after 3 years of sheotl

    Manu Raju
    · 1h
    “Based on what we have seen to date, going forward on impeachment is not worthwhile at this point. Very frankly, there is an election in 18 months and the American people will make a judgement,” House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer told @DanaBashCNN .

  366. SusyQue says:

    President Trump issued this tweet. Why isn’t the media covering it? Instead they cover the other one where he’s just trying to help. Please help spread the beautiful words of our One President Trump!

    “Art and architecture have a unique ability to help us connect across our differences and bring people together in important ways. Thinking of the people of Paris and praying for every first responder trying to save this wonder.” – Donald J. Trump

  367. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Messy and CG:

    A few months ago, you stated with certitude that Jared Kushner and DJT Jr. would be indicted.What happened?!

    As for AG Barr, Pres. Obama said that his AG, Eric Holder, was his “wingman”. Personally, I think that Barr is a straight shooter and Obama’s AG’s(Holder and Lynch) were sleazy and corrupt.

    IMHO, the #1 unanswered question in the heavy-handed two year Mueller investigation is : “When did Mueller conclude that the whole collusion hysteria was bogus?”
    This investigation had the same pungent stink to it that the Patrick Fitzgerald one did. Fitzgerald knew from day 2 of his investigation that “there was no there. there” regarding the Plame affair, but continued on and on and on trying to find “process” crimes.

    Sorry that your high hopes of dispatching Trump have been dashed, but reality prevailed at the end and he is YOUR President for another 18 months at a minimum!

  368. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – Jason and NYC can F off. People see what they want to see in this report.

  369. NYCmike says:

    ” People see what they want to see in this report.”


    Conservatives look at the words and realize they have meaning.

    Liberals look at the words and realize their lives have no meaning, so they decide the words don’t mean anything and they will make up their own story.

    Similar to the Constitution in that respect.

  370. dblaikie says:

    Since when it is it a prosecutor can exonerate a person? A jury does that. Mueller’s job was to charge or not to charge. Game over.

  371. SusyQue says:

    Inspiring words from our One President Trump! Please LIKE and SHARE

    “Art and architecture have a unique ability to help us connect across our differences and bring people together in important ways. Thinking of the people of Paris and praying for every first responder trying to save this wonder.” – Donald J. Trump

  372. Messy says:

    376. HE didn’t. He had a mandate to find if Trump or the campaign engineered the hacks or paid for them. The chairman of the campaign giving a Russian agent detailed polling data was collusion.

    Gates telling Trump that the next Wikileaks document dump was imminent was collusion.

    379. As a President cannot be indicted while in office, a report such as this is to inform Congress whether or not there is grounds for impeachment.

  373. NYCmike says:

    Messy says there was collusion, Mueller says there wasn’t.

    Ok, glad that was resolved.


  374. Messy says:

    376. According to the report, there are at least 14 referrals to other prosecutors.

  375. lisab says:

    Following discussion of her “Jewish colleagues,” Omar stated that “I want to talk about the political influence in this country that says it is okay to push for allegiance to a foreign country.”

    — Ilhan Omar

  376. lisab says:

    “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.” — Ilhan Omar

  377. Messy says:

    361. He tried that several times, according to the report, but the White House staff refused to follow his orders an did what they think is right.

    That’s also why the economy is doing well.

    382. Collusion is not a crime, nor is it a legal term. Criminal conspiracy is. Meuller said that the campaign didn’t pay the internet Research agency to hack the DNC. Thus no criminal conspiracy. The Campaign colluded but didn’t pay Wikileaks.

  378. Messy says:

    384-85. So Omar’s a racist cow. Big deal. Most of us know that already.

  379. Tina says:

    cnn is now attacking Redactstein for having a conflict. This was predictable.

  380. jason says:

    MSM is desperate…

    “What was it”… LOL

    MSNBC’S Nicolle D Wallace says, “We know it wasn’t a criminal conspiracy with the Russians, but then what was it? Because Robert Mueller spent 22 months looking at it, and if there was nothing, I’m pretty sure it wouldn’t have taken 22 months to say nothing.”

  381. mnw says:


    I guess the Mueller report ‘disintigrated’ (sic), huh 3iii’s?

  382. Bitterlaw says:

    Messy has posted here for years to say nothing.

  383. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Why is Messy babbling incoherently?

  384. mnw says:

    SDC 392

    Because it’s the only way he CAN babble.

  385. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Messy says:
    April 18, 2019 at 8:33 pm
    384-85. So Omar’s a racist cow.”
    Leave my relatives out of it.

  386. Cash Cow TM says:

    If the Mueller Report had three words redacted,
    the outrage from the leftist whackadoodles would be the same as 300 pages redacted.

  387. jason says:

    Messy is blithering idiot.

    She is upset she wrote 1000 posts claiming there was collusion and the fake Steel Dossier was “verified”.

    In the end the fake dossier was a load of garbage that even scumbag Cohen said was a crock, he had never been to Prague. It was composed of crap he read on fake news networks like CNN that he sold to the FBI and DNC.

    There was no collusion unless they can nail Hillary and the DNC for paying a foreign agent to smear the Trump campaign.

  388. jason says:

    Huh, mnw, Messy is not a “he”, although these days you never know.

    And she is A blithering idiot.

  389. jason says:

    Breaking News – Jason and NYC can F off. People see what they want to see in this report”

    Wow, this is deep sh-t. Really?

    Really brilliant.

    Now is Bitter going to admit a lot of them like Messy are seeing what is NOT in the report?

  390. Cash Cow TM says:

    My news reporter friend, Jack Schmidt, say one of the things redacted in the Mueller report is that Trump does not put the toilet lid up before he RUSHES his pees.

    Rushes is very close to RUSSIANS!

  391. JulStol says:


  392. mnw says:

    Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure (FRCP) Rule 6(e) requires that Grand Jury testimony shall remain secret, i.e., because it is compelled testimony.

    What the leftists are urging Barr to do is to make the entire report public, including the 6(e) material, which would be a violation of federal law.

    Nobody cares, but… that would be a VERY odd thing for the Attorney General of the United States to do!

  393. Wes says:

    I gave Messy the sobriquet “the Moron” for a reason. His utterly inane posts on this thread fully illustrate why.

  394. Tina says:

    Mnw, great point and Barr will not break the law and release it.

    Messy and the jebots that fell for the hoax will be triggered by this:

  395. Messy says:

    404. From the Boston Globe:

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report laid out multiple episodes in which President Trump directed people around him to try to influence or curtail the Russia investigation after the special counsel’s appointment in May 2017.

    That’s obstruction of justice under the law. Pleae explain how that never happened. HOAX my ass.

  396. Tina says:

    Fuhrer Mulehead and the angry drats tried to argue obstruction on
    18 USC 1512(c).

    This. Citation cannot apply to,a counter intelligence investigation.

    Barr said, even if he accepted it, it the 10 hoaxes are sheot.

  397. Tina says:

    Even if SCOTUS reversed the 5th and 9th (unlikely), according to the DOJ Justice Manual again, 1512(c) requires the defendant to intend “specific results, for example, preventing a witness from testifying at an official proceeding” – essentially, a form of specific intent.

    So, asking sessions to un recuse himself, is not an example.

  398. Tina says:

    A fib investigation is not an official proceeding. Pretty easy to see why Benito Weissarse’s 10 hoaxes fail.

    Apr 17
    §1512 requires an “Official Proceeding” for the crime to even apply (DOJ JM: “Congress limits the coverage of § 1512 to official proceedings”), with Section C the only part even theoretically applying to an FBI investigation which the DOJ agreed with in the 9th Circuit (Ermoian)

  399. Tgca says:


  400. Messy says:

    1. Russia interfered
    2. They did it to help Trump
    3. Trump wanted their help
    4. Trump’s campaign met with the Russians to seek out that help
    5. Trump and his campaign repeatedly lied about those contacts
    6. Trump fired the FBI Director to stop an investigation into the matter

    410.In order to do that, we must get rid of Trump ASAP.

  401. Tgca says:

    Messy is STOOPID!. Influence or asking questions or stating things out of anger and frustration (as Mueller acknowledged in his report) is not obstruction. That’s no different when Messy’s boss is mad at Messy for screwing up and says to HR “I’m tired of this, I should fire Messy for being so stupid” and HR says that “you could fire Messy for any reason but you should not fire Messy for being so stupid because it could be perceived as being unfair, especially since there’s nothing in our policy about an employee being stupid and the optics are bad and could impact employee morale.” The boss then says “OK, but Messy is an idiot” and HR response “ that is a given.”

    The point is that asking about doing something, tweeting about it, yelling about it, etc with no actual action of doing it is not a crime. Seeking counsel and having thoughts is not a crime in AMERICA!

    …and finally, POTUS can fire most administrative personnel at any time for any reason, and does not even have to give a reason because they work for POTUS. Just like POTUS can ask for specific investigations be done even though that may not be good optics, it is a legal right if POTUS.

    Get it Messy!

  402. Tgca says:


    That’s what the Dems and Clinton did. Get the assistance of a foreign agent (a.k.a. British spy) to pay Russian folks for dirt on Trump, then submitted the fake dirt to the FBI and used it you’re mislead the FISA court. Much of this is known fact and after the IG and DOJ investigations we will know more. That why certain folks in Justice already Demoted and fired.

  403. Tgca says:


    You guys Very bigly lost. It’s over! America has moved on. History will make a mockery of Mueller and his 10 Clinton lawyers with the MSM who tried to bring down POTUS over fake claims because they could not accept the results of an election.

    PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! Spend the next 1.5 years on impeachment hearings and the American people will respond accordingly in 2020 re-electing Trump, expanding the Senate, and giving the House back to the GOP, not to mention significant losses at the state level.

    Suck it up and move on!

  404. Tgca says:

    Well off to work I go on this bee-yo-tee-ful Good Friday. I can finally go back to my carnivorous diet of chocolate bunnies and peeps after abstaining for Lent.

  405. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Messy #381
    You try to make your case that Manafort’s sharing polling data with the Russkies proved collusion.What a dollup of dung! Read the Mueller Report about this. It is complete exoneration. Liberal journalist, Michael Tracey, concludes:

    “Remember when Manafort sharing polling data with Kilimnik was supposed to be the lynchpin of the Trump/Russia conspiracy? Mueller says this event had zero bearing on any broader “collusion” scheme.”

    We know that delusion is the partner of desperation, but #411 is one of your silliest posts ever and there are scores that would qualify.
    (1) your summary is an amazing stretch with no context or facts whatsoever.
    (2) your conclusion is that 2+2= 22. Ridiculous.Laughable!

    You need to share a room in a locked sanitorium with George Conway. Both of you should be started on high dosagesof Thorazine and Haldol!!!

  406. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Are there any Nets fans outside of Brooklyn? Are there any in Brooklyn? The Knicks suck so maybe the Nets picked up some stray fans.

  407. Messy says:

    The hearings will start in a couple of weeks.

  408. jason says:

    . Trump wanted their help

    Lie. It was clear nobody in the campaign sought ANY help from Russia and in fact did not pursue any offers. Unless you think Hillary, Podesta and DNC would not have welcomed a public release by Wikileaks of emails that showed the Trump campaign to be dishonest. Remember why the impact of the emails was considered to be NEGATIVE to the Clinton campaign….nobody disputed their accuracy… they showed the campaign ripped off Sanders AND was colluding with the media.
    4. Trump’s campaign met with the Russians to seek out that help

    5. Trump and his campaign repeatedly lied about those contacts
    Trump and his campaign were 100% vindicated, none of these “contacts” were in any way related to collusion. Oh yeah, Kushner admitted to shaking the hand of the Russian Ambassador at an

    6. Trump fired the FBI Director to stop an investigation into the matter

    BS. The investigation was not going to be stopped by firing Comey, was it? Mueller made clear in his report that the WH cooperated fully with his investigation. In the end, Trump never needed any motive to fire Comey, he could have fired him if he didn’t like the color of his tie.

  409. Bitterlaw says:

    The Yankees are ditching Kate Smith? The Flyers Have used her version of God bless America for decades. The Yankees can’t steal a song from the Broad Street Bullies.

  410. jason says:

    “Trump’s campaign met with the Russians to seek out that help”

    Never happened. Pure fantasy.

    Even the vaunted Trump Tower meeting didn’t yield any information, Kushner is on record in an email saying it was a waste of time and asking to have an excuse to leave it.

  411. Bitterlaw says:

    Will the investigation of the 2016 election conclude befor the 2028 election? Discuss.

  412. jason says:

    The hearings will start in a couple of weeks.”


  413. dblaikie says:

    If the dems go further down this road on investigations they will lose any hope they have in 2020. Instead they should use all their rhetoric into trying to stop further investigations into how this whole Russia garbage started! But they won’t! Barring Trump doing something incredibly stupid (always a fear) I am growing more confident for the whole GOP with each day.

  414. jason says:

    Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report laid out multiple episodes in which President Trump directed people around him to try to influence or curtail the Russia investigation after the special counsel’s appointment in May 2017.

    That’s obstruction of justice under the law.”

    Mueller didn’t think so.

    And let’s not forget he was completely innocent, so wouldn’t it make sense his motive for curtailing the investigation was political, he didn’t want his Presidency mired in the investigation for years.

    If he was “curtailing” it because he was guilty, it could be maybe interpreted a different way.

    Didn’t Obama do all he could to “curtail” investigations into his administration? Didn’t Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch run interference for him countless times?

  415. jason says:

    Trump knew there was no collusion so it makes perfect sense it would try to limit the SCOPE of the investigation.

    The “I am f–ked” statement says it all. We now know he didn’t say it because he thought he was guilty of collusion, we know he said it because it was politically very damaging to have a SC appointed.

    He was certainly right.

  416. jason says:

    Howard Kurtz has it right. In the end, the volcanic eruption spewed out a pebble.

    “What is muting the report’s impact, in my view, is that expectations were so sky-high. The media, having invested so much capital in this probe for two years, only to be let down by the lack of criminal charges, were betting that the actual report would be explosive. And yet it was more popgun than big-time bomb.”

  417. DW says:

    Democrats clobbered again today. Another 10,000+ babies will be born in the USA today and nothing will be done to kill them. Making matters worse for Democrats, these babies will be boys or girls.

  418. mnw says:

    I agree with Tg & others here that the best thing that could happen for Trump in 2020 would be for the DEMs to string this out every week for the next 18 months– interminable & inescapable, thanks to the MSM megaphone.

    Pew recently reported that impeachment loses by 12 points, 56-44.

    Pelosi & Stoyer know that going down the impeachment trail would lead to disaster for them.

    So, I hope that 3iiii’s gets exactly what he wants– DEM chances in 2020 will be ‘disintigrating’ (sic) soon if he does.

  419. mnw says:

    429 sb “Hoyer”

  420. Phil says:

    So Kellyanne Conway’s husband has thrown Another Trump tantrum publishing an op ed in the Washington Post today calling for his impeachment and removal from office. Obviosly triggered by the fact the Mueller report didn’t turn out the way he wanted to. That marriage is beyond bizarre. I’ve never seen or heard anything like it. The guy is just another lawyer and yet the Washington Post gives him space for op Ed’s? Who is nuttier? This guy or the Washington Post? Coin toss.

  421. jason says:

    Wow, so what?

    “Throughout 2016, the Trump Campaign expressed interest in Hillary Clinton’s private email server and whether approximately 30,000 emails from that server had in fact been permanently destroyed, as reported by the media,” wrote the Office of Special Counsel in its report, released Thursday.

    The report states that “Trump asked individuals affiliated with his Campaign to find the deleted Clinton emails.” While the investigators did not find coordination between Russians and Trump officials in finding the emails, or any evidence of success in uncovering them, the report concludes that some of those efforts “were pursued to some degree.”

    Typical MSM drivel. If you read the article, you will see Trump asked his aides to find the emails, BFD.

    I wish he had found them.

  422. Messy says:

    425. No, he didn’t. The investigations were all about Hillary’s emails and the Benghazi conspiracy theory.

    BTW, Meuller never said that there was no obstruction, just that it would require a trial and that was Congress’ job.

  423. Phil says:

    Congresswoman Rashida Tlaib went off on the House leadership for not supporting the abolition of ICE. Say citizens should go on hunger strikes to push the issue. No word on whether she herself will quit eating.

    These people are nuts.

  424. mnw says:

    Three iii’s is RIGHT!

    It IS Congress’ job to find out exactly what Pappadpoulos said to Col. Mustard in the ballroom with the candelabra… because the voters are just fascinated by that & want more of it.

  425. sandiegocitizen says:

    433. Messy were you born stupid or do you have to practice every day?

  426. jason says:

    TW, Meuller never said that there was no obstruction,”

    Actually yes, because he did not establish Trump committed any crime and he did not accuse Trump of any crime. If he had a case for obstruction, he would have made it, the burden is on the accuser. And he was clear that intent was an important part of the equation.

    He didn’t accept the premise that the President cannot be charged with obstruction, and he still didn’t charge him with obstruction.

    And as Barr said, with Rosentein’s concurrence, none of the 10 instances investigated amounted to obstruction, and there was no underlying collusion of ANY type anyway.

    And Mueller did not say anything about “requiring a trial”, BS.

  427. jason says:

    425. No, he didn’t. The investigations were all about Hillary’s emails and the Benghazi conspiracy theory.”


    Are you really that ignorant?

    What about the IRS targeting scandal?
    VA waiting list scandal?
    GSA spending spree scandal?
    Remember Fast and Furious? (AG found in contempt of Congress?)
    Solyndra Subsidies?
    Buying off Joe Sestak?

    Didn’t Obama’s AG protect him during all these scandals?

    Yes or no?

  428. Wes says:

    When I read what Messy posts I can literally feel my brain cells dying from trying to process so much stupidity at once.

  429. Phil says:

    Messy is killing it today.

    All we need now is some Corey sanctimonious half truth action. My day will then be complete.

  430. phoenixrisen says:

    I have enjoyed watching Messy in full blown TDS the last couple days. Highly entertaining.

  431. lisab says:

    If the dems go further down this road on investigations they will lose any hope they have in 2020.

    it is over for the dems, they need to move on.

    i fully expected that mueller would throw trump under the bus, but he didn’t. why didn’t he? i have no idea.

    mueller will pe persona non grata on both sides now, he could have been president of an ivy league school had he made the report damning.

  432. lisab says:

    the bottom line is, there was no collusion

    politically that is the end of it.

    the electorate just does not buy the dems argument. it is only one day later and already the news media is shifting to other stories.

    no doubt this is why biden will announce soon. he will be the “reasonable democrat” among the crazed bug eyed candidates.

  433. lisab says:

    to show how bad it is

    on the biggest news night since the mueller report was released

    cnn did not break a million viewers last night. anderson cooper did not even break 900,000. he was cnn’s top guy. by comparison tucker carlson had 3 million+ viewers (fox news) and hayes had 1.7 million+ viewers (msnbc)

    it is ovah

  434. DW says:

    Biden will be very formidable. Despite the gaffes. Despite the fact that Chuck still hasn’t stood up.

    Acting like a typical marxist, AOC thinks she is queen of the world, when in fact she is one of 435 representatives and comes from a district where a Dead Cat (D) could have won against the Republican. The fact that she doesn’t get that only adds to her value to the GOP.

  435. lisab says:

    #445 yes, i am not saying the dem’s chances in 2020 are ovah

    just the collusion witch trials

  436. lisab says:

    biden is now tied with sanders on predictit btw

    butt is a close third now

    harris still in striking distance at fourth

    everyone else has dropped back out of the race

  437. lisab says:

    beto has even dropped behind yang!

  438. Phil says:

    Beto behind Yang? Say it isn’t so.

  439. lisab says:

    Barr Is Right About Everything. Admit You Were Wrong.


    (ouch, that had to hurt)

  440. lisab says:

    yup, beto has dropped below yang

    but the ny times article is even more surprising.

  441. Messy says:

    438. None of those scandals were real. Happy Easter.

  442. CG says:


    The Flyers have now dumped Kate Smith too.

  443. Phil says:

    Sorry, Beto. The MSM has a new heartthrob and he’s younger plus he’s gay. Can’t top that. So long, Beto. Nice knowing ya.

  444. NYCmike says:

    “NYC – Are there any Nets fans outside of Brooklyn? Are there any in Brooklyn? The Knicks suck so maybe the Nets picked up some stray fans.”

    -The NETS went and made their colors white and black, so because of that, their fandom is wider than most people think.

    In Brooklyn, they have a good number of fans. The arena is GREAT FOR BASKETBALL, it is very accessible, there are several locations where they practice where fans are able to watch, and they do a lot of community work.

    And, the Knicks ARE HORRIBLE, and have been for some time.

  445. NYCmike says:

    “The Flyers have now dumped Kate Smith too.”

    -Racism has now been eradicated in Philadelphia and the Bronx!

  446. CG says:

    *****Trumpist Trigger Warning*****

    “It is good news that there was insufficient evidence to charge the President of the United States with having conspired with a foreign adversary or with having obstructed justice. The alternative would have taken us through a wrenching process with the potential for constitutional crisis. The business of government can move on.

    Even so, I am sickened at the extent and pervasiveness of dishonesty and misdirection by individuals in the highest office of the land, including the President. I am also appalled that, among other things, fellow citizens working in a campaign for president welcomed help from Russia—including information that had been illegally obtained; that none of them acted to inform American law enforcement; and that the campaign chairman was actively promoting Russian interests in Ukraine.

    Reading the report is a sobering revelation of how far we have strayed from the aspirations and principles of the founders.”

    Sen. Mitt Romney

  447. lisab says:

    well somebody won’t be getting a christmas card

  448. lisab says:

    Noam Chomsky Calls Dem Focus on Russia a ‘Huge Gift’ to Trump: ‘They May Have Handed Him the Next Election’

  449. Tina says:

    Quittens went off reservation.

    What an idiot.

  450. Phil says:

    Romney enters sanctimonious sweepstakes with Corey and Comey.

    Quite the competition.

  451. NYCmike says:

    “Sen. Mitt Romney”

    -Enough said.

  452. CG says:

    My views are actually a bit closer to George Conway’s than Mitt Romney’s on this matter, but I think Romney put out a fine statement. The angry-left will give him no credit for it. Romney, the man who should be President, put out a fine statement.

    Being compared to him, as Phil has done, has literally made my weekend and has filled me with pride this Passover.

    I wish everyone a meaningful and peaceful Holiday weekend.

  453. Tina says:

    Section l of the report has many glaring omissions.

    Sector 2 is just pure bs. Thank goodness, scheme team failed.

    ources Say ‘Build the Wall’
    “Bottom line: Just like his best pal Comey, Robert Mueller is a dirty cop who failed to frame Trump so on his way out the door he bitterly lashed out with lies, ad hominem, false accusations, and total blithering, blathering nonsense.”

  454. Tina says:

    Fuhrer hired 18 angry drats.

    He kept Benito Weissarse on staff.

    Lied about Pete the cheat and the mistress.

    Destroyed Pete the cheats phone.

    We do need an investigation of the coup plotters

  455. Tina says:


    Quittens will surrender when charges are brought against scheme team,

    Donald J. Trump
    ….big, fat, waste of time, energy and money – $30,000,000 to be exact. It is now finally time to turn the tables and bring justice to some very sick and dangerous people who have committed very serious crimes, perhaps even Spying or Treason. This should never happen again!

  456. Tina says:

    If this happened to Quittens, who had business ties to Muh .russia, he. Would have quit,

    Piece of garbage that he is,

  457. NYCmike says:

    LOL at “Being compared to him, as Phil has done, has literally made my weekend and has filled me with pride this Passover.”!

    Enjoy your holiday, “CG”. Peace be upon you.

    To those who believe in Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, Happy Easter!

  458. Tgca says:

    452 Stoopid Messy said the scandals were not real. See summary below of each where folks generally resigned or were fired but no scandal since people resign under pressure, get investigated, or get fired for no reason. I guess because Nixon resigned and was never convicted or impeached, Watergate was not a scandal either.

    Also, I guess the folks that died in some of these scandals were not real either. The fact that the FBI and DOJ turned blind eyes to these does not make the not real you twit.

    I did not even include Benghazi where more folks died and POTUS and his team (think Susan Rice) lied about a tape causing the incident and then leaving Americans to die when they could have intervened and saved them.

    What about the IRS targeting scandal?
    Lois Lerner was placed on leave, resigned during her leave because it appeared she would be fired, was admonished for her dept’s behavior and leadership for which she apologized, and was found in contempt of Congress. DOJ did a review and decided not to prosecute because she was forced to resign.

    VA waiting list scandal?
    Nearly 40 veterans died in VA while awaiting care. Top leadership in VA resigned. Investigation found negligence. The FBI opened a criminal investigation.

    GSA spending spree scandal?
    GSA top leadership resigned and others fired over corruption and inappropriate spending and top leadership admitted to egregious behavior.

    Remember Fast and Furious? (AG found in contempt of Congress?)
    AG Holder 1st to ever be held in contempt of Congress. Tried to stall investigation (speak about obstruction) and an American agent was killed along with approx 100+ Mexicans. At AG Holders request, Obama invoked executive privilege in his election year and refused to turn over documents to Congress and investigators. Is that obstructing an investigation?

    Solyndra Subsidies?
    Obama tried to prop up his green energy program and forced approval of a $500M loan that gov folks did not want to make and subsequently gov auditors found should not have been made. The company shut down and all 1,100 employees lost their jobs with no benefits and taxpayers got stuck with $500M. Subsequent review determined the govt should never had made them a loan due to faulty financials that were brought to Obsmas team attention but they forced the loan so he could do photo ops.

    Buying off Joe Sestak?
    Obama folks tried to buy off Sestak not to run in dem primary by offering a job. That is a bribe under federal law.

  459. Tina says:

    And the obumbler did nothing about pooty poot. Remember, when Mute 43 chauffeured him around his ranch?

    John Cardillo
    The #MuellerReport clearly states that Russia began interfering in the 2016 election in 2014.

    The Obama administration did nothing.

  460. DW says:

    470 – you forgot to include the revelation that the 2016 “Democratic” primary process was rigged. I know its not necessarily criminal, as a party can pick their candidate however they want, but when the name of your party is “Democratic” it is scandalous to pretend it is so when in fact that the nominee was appointed irrespective of their voters.

  461. Tina says:

    Dear diary,….
    Quote Tweet

    Senator Mitt Romney
    · 2h
    I have now read the redacted Mueller report and offer my personal reaction:

  462. Tgca says:

    I hope there is a stroke waiting around the corner for Mitt Romney. This guy is such a useful idiot. How can they stand him in Utah?

  463. Tina says:

    Lol they just realized this?

    Chuck Ross
    · 2h
    NYT’s piece on Steele dossier says investigators are increasingly considering whether it was product of Russian disinformation. We addressed that a few weeks back too: (link:…

  464. lisab says:

    the fake indian is the first democrat candidate to call for trump’s impeachment.

  465. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    As a past Romney supporter, let me lay it on the table.

    After the 2012 election, I was at a meeting in Utah where it was discussed why Romney lost the presidential race. The consensus was the Romney came across as too self-righteous and sanctimonious; which seriously contrasted with his “vulture capitalist” business practices. The Democrats in 2012 pounded him with instances where he had bought companies, “looted” them, and made profits while workers ended up losing their jobs. This contrasted with Romney’s attempt to project an imagine of sainthood. Several attendees referred to him as an “easterner”, which means the equivalent of alien from another planet in Utah. Trump readily admits and boosted about his sharp business practices, so people knew, for better or worse, who he was. Romney’s persona confused people and made them uncomfortable.
    The over-the-top self-righteousness coming from Romney now is getting creepy.

  466. mnw says:

    5 seconds after Romney won the GOP nomination in 2012, there was a full court press from the MSM about whether Romney was likely to go to prison for the complex financial transactions his companies had conducted abroad– shifting money to foreign soil to avoid taxes.

    And I mean, a FULL. COURT. PRESS.

    The MSM had Romney branded as a probable felon before he even knew what hit him, & he never got past that. They had him DEFINED.

    Somehow, he doesn’t seem to notice any similarities between his experience & Trump’s.

    And yes, his moral posturing makes me puke, too.

  467. Phil says:


    I think your characterization of Romney’s behavior as “creepy” hit the nail on the head, SD. I too heavily supported him and gave money to his campaign in 2012. He’s become nothing less than the left’s useful idiot. I really misread the guy.

  468. Phil says:

    Romney has decided to become the next Flake.

  469. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Like SOS Clinton, Romney is outraged and bitter that a fellow like the Donald J Trump made it to the Presidency and he did not.
    Do you remember his outrageous Washington Post op-ed in January of this year days before he took the oath of office for his Senate seat? If not, open the below link for a summary:

  470. Bitterlaw says:

    Happy Passover to Corey.

  471. Tina says:

    Cn and n let this get through?

    Actually Obama should have been investigated in 2012 when he was caught on tape with potty’s stooge.

  472. Bitterlaw says:

    So Tina continues to call somebody who had the balls to run for office “Quittens” when she collected a government paycheck and never ran for anything. What a joke.

    She also went back to using the idiotic term Fuhrer.


    Love you, Tina..

  473. Cash Cow TM says:

    walt and his missus have made an offer on a house–moving looks closer than ever.

    The sellers want to close in mid-July.
    Which gives Walt sufficient time to do all the crap that needs to be done at current house to get it ready to be put on the market.

    The grass at this other home is lush, lush lush!
    If this goes through, EVERYONE* IS INVITED TO WALT’S NEW HOUSE!

    Bitter, bring your photos of your recent Chicago trip!

    [*Everyone invited except Messy, ProudObamaConMan, Paul,…who am I missing?]

  474. Cash Cow TM says:

    I would still vote for Romney over a number of other candidates–R and D.

  475. lisab says:

    Ben Carson To Kick Illegal Immigrants Out Of HUD Housing

  476. lisab says:


    Brian Williams: “Where did the attorney general get off with that characterization this morning, including four mentions that there was no collusion? What document was he reading, compared to the one we’re left with?”

    Jay Sekulow: “Well, page two of the document says, ‘The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump campaign coordinated with the Russian government in its election of interference activities.’ So it’s right from the document itself.”

  477. lisab says:

    David Hogg

    More David Hogg Retweeted Mei-Ling Ho-Shing
    White people genuinely think that police make kids safer when in reality at most schools the police ARE the threat.

    This is why we continue to say. #BlackLivesMatter

  478. NYCmike says:

    “Edelweiss” is racist!

    So says Robbie’s favorite NY Times reporter, Maggie Haberman!

  479. NYCmike says:

    “Ben Carson To Kick Illegal Immigrants Out Of HUD Housing.”

    -Yikes, “CG” will have to add him to the deplorable list.

  480. NYCmike says:

    “I would still vote for Romney over a number of other candidates–R and D.”

    -Agree with this, although I would not look to replace Trump with Romney at all.

    Will you, Walt and Miss Daisy give the current President another look-see in 2020??

  481. mnw says:

    I would say the hate-o-meter hit a new high today, for both sides!

    “Oh, it’s up in Balegey.
    That’s where I want to be,
    Lyin’ in the dark,
    With a Provo company,
    With a comrade on me left,
    And another on me right,
    And a clip of ammunition
    For me little Armalite!”

    Hang on to your hats, everybody. It’f going to be a bumpy ride.

  482. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    490. “David Hogg. More David Hogg Retweeted Mei-Ling Ho-Shing White people genuinely think that police make kids safer when in reality at most schools the police ARE the threat.”

    If the police are the threat, does that mean he believes the police acted appropriately when they stayed outside while a crazy man was shooting up his school and killing his classmates?

  483. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Will you, Walt and Miss Daisy give the current President another look-see in 2020??”

    Walt says he “D.N.G.A Good S.”

    And further,
    “None of the Ds currently running deserve the white house.
    Neither does Trump.”
    I will add that regardless of who wins in 2020:
    birds will still poop on the cars…and gravity will make trees fall down.

  484. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    497. “..and gravity will make trees fall down.”

    Sounds like the excuse that George Washington would have made if he were a millennial.

  485. JulStol says:

    Of course the song referenced by MNW in 495 isn’t about the well known Armalite AR-15/M16, but the less famous AR180/AR18, a piston driven system the legacy of which can be seen in the modern FN SCAR and the HK G36.

    Brownell’s is making modernized repros of the AR180 that can be put on any AR-15 style lower if you feel the need to LARP the IRA.

    There, that’s a thing you know now.

  486. JulStol says:


  487. Bitterlaw says:

    Although I think Romney would be a better Presidentthan Trump, it is irrelevant. I also think the 1929 Philadelphia Athletics were better than the 1927 Yankees, they are not playing each other so it is also irrelevant.

    Just as in 2016, the choice in 2020 will be Trump or the Democrat’s nominee.

  488. jason says:

    When I said Romney was a scumbag whose only motive was to ingratiate himself with the MSM there were some who disagreed.

    Few will disagree now.

  489. Bitterlaw says:

    I disagree.


  490. janz says:

    Jason, I agree with your comment about Romney. And, to think how excited and supportive I was of him during his 2012 run. I still like his wife, Ann.

  491. jason says:

    The goalposts are still moving.

    “Unwitting assets”… “passive collusion”


    ANDERSON COOPER: But Mueller determined that no one from the Trump campaign coordinated or conspired with Russia, but didn’t determine whether or not members of the Trump campaign may have been unwitting assets of the Russian government

    JAMES CLAPPER: I think, if there wasn’t active collusion proven, then I think what we have here is a case of passive collusion, where, in some cases, unwittingly — to include candidate Trump himself, who retweeted messages that had been planted by the Russians in social media, and so, that’s a small, but important example of how members of the campaign were used and manipulated by the Russians.’

  492. jason says:

    I think your characterization of Romney’s behavior as “creepy” hit the nail on the head, SD. I too heavily supported him and gave money to his campaign in 2012. He’s become nothing less than the left’s useful idiot. I really misread the guy.”

    I don’t regret voting for him over Obama.

    I certainly regret ever supporting him for the nomination or for ever defending his character.

  493. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    499. To be fair, the initial Armalite rifle was substantially modified when Colt took over the company, and eventually became the military M16. Its adoption was one of McNamara’s positive legacies. Civilians can own the semi-auto AR-15 which is the civilian version of the M16 — enjoy taking mine to the shooting range.

  494. Tgca says:

    Romney is a POS! The guy has no allegiance and will go with any way the wind is blowing. He would sell out his wife to become a media fav. He doesn’t realize what a useful idiot he is because they only give him attention to further their agenda. I just hope after a few years the people of Utah give him the boot or a stroke is awaiting him. He is the politician I’ve despised the most the last couple of years. His groveling for SOS job from Trump only weeks after criticizing shows the guy is a wolf in sheep’s clothing and has no commitment to anything but to be in power. He strongly supported ABORTION while running for MA gov and his strong support is on YouTube for all to see. True scum!

  495. mnw says:


    He stinks on ice!

    Everything good with you?

  496. jason says:

    Elizabeth Vaughn at Redstate has a good “note to Mitt”

    “Note to Mitt:

    There are many reasons to be upset about the Mueller Report, but the actions of President Trump and the members of his campaign are not one of them.

    Can’t you put your personal animosity for Trump aside for once and look at the facts?

    Officials at the top levels of the Obama administration, including the FBI, the DOJ, the CIA, the DNI and the Obama White House, horrified by the prospect of a Trump presidency, conspired to undermine his candidacy. The Obama FBI infiltrated the campaign with spies. Officials from the FBI and the DOJ knowingly used an unverified dossier of false stories about Trump, which was commissioned and paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the DNC, to obtain a FISA court warrant to spy on Carter Page. Although Page was merely a low level advisor, access to his communications provided a window into the rest of the campaign. They also leaked stories to the media when it suited their purposes.

    When the unthinkable happened and Trump won the election, their “insurance policy” went into effect. The FBI counterintelligence investigation which began before the election ultimately turned into a special counsel investigation. There was no evidence of a crime at the inception of either probe. Both were initiated for one political purpose, to delegitimize Trump’s presidency.

    The special counsel investigation has crippled Trump’s presidency and it has damaged our country. It has also ruined the lives of several Trump associates, including General Michael Flynn, who served this country well for over 30 years.

    This criminal conspiracy is unprecedented and it will be remembered as the biggest political scandal in U.S. history.

    And Donald Trump and his campaign staff were its victims.

    Does any of that sicken you Mitt?

    PS: Calling law enforcement would have been a really bad idea in this case Mitt.”

  497. mnw says:


    The only thing I know about the Armalite is from the old IRA song:

    “A brave RUC man came walkin’ down the street,
    600 British soldiers was standing’ at his feet.
    ‘Come out ya cowardly Feinian,
    Come on out and fight!’
    But he hollered, ‘I was only jokin’!’
    When he heard me Armalite!”

  498. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Tgca, I can understand you do not like Romney, but
    believe it is over the top to hope for anyone to have a stroke.

  499. mnw says:

    “A British soldier hit me,
    He said, ‘You are a swine!’
    He knocked me to the ground,
    And he kicked me in the groin.
    I begged him not to hurt me.
    All me manners were polite.
    But all the time I’m thinkin’
    of me little Armalite!”

  500. Tgca says:

    I don’t dislike Romney. I despise him. The sight of him makes me sick.

  501. Wes says:

    SDC, is it wrong I can’t wait for GWB to die so I can dig him up, piss on him, and rebury him upside down?

  502. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “If dozens of Federal prosecutors spent two years trying to charge you with a crime, and found they couldn’t, it would mean there wasn’t any evidence you did it – and that’s what happened here – that’s what we just learned from the Mueller Report.” @TuckerCarlson

  503. lisab says:

    as a lockean,

    how many people could be examined by the full force of the government and not be discovered to have crossed the law? now imagine you are a billionaire doing business in places like nyc and chicago.

    the government acting as a prosecutor in the best of times is scary.

    acting with the intention of overturning an election is very scary.

  504. Tina says:

    Huckabee slams Quittens, who had business ties to Russia.

    Gov. Mike Huckabee
    · 11h
    Know what makes me sick, Mitt? Not how disingenuous you were to take @realDonaldTrump $$ and then 4 yrs later jealously trash him & then love him again when you begged to be Sec of State, but makes me sick that you got GOP nomination and could have been @POTUS (link:…

  505. Tina says:

    Pretty accurate.

    Patrick Howley
    I can speak fluent BS, so I’ll translate: I’m Mitt Romney and I do the bidding of corporations who want to keep our border open, flood country with illegals, crushsmall business and outsource jobs. Thus, I am against Trump and Middle America. Does the media love me now?

  506. Messy says:

    And now for something completely different:

    Mel Gibson is working on The Passion of the Christ II, which is a cinematic account of the so-called “harrowing of hell” as mentioned in the so-called “apostle’s creed.”

    Happy Easter for those who want one.

  507. mnw says:

    Go away, three iii’s. No-one here needs holiday greetings from an illiterate troll.

  508. Bitterlaw says:

    So HHR now wants Republicans to act like zombie Democrats and never say a bad word about somebody who pretends to be in their party.

    I will never regret voting for Romney in 2012. I would have voted for him over Trump if he had run in the primaries in 2016. Trump is a bitter, vindictive mf-er who rips everybody regardless of party. No need to kiss Trump’s ass as long as Romney votes the right way.

  509. Tina says:

    I withdraw my vote for Romney in 2012.

  510. Bitterlaw says:

    To be fair, bitter and vindictive are two of the traits I respect in Trump.

  511. Tina says:

    Quittens = deadender

    Diguisting pos.

    Begged for the sos job and was not given it,

  512. mnw says:

    Good article at Powerline blog, “How Giuliani Saved Trump”

    I recall several posters here dismissing him as incompetent, & perhaps senile. OH SO WRONG.

    I’m not sure Trump’s presidency would’ve survived Mueller absent Giuliani.

  513. Tina says:

    Giuliani was great. I did not have a problem with him

    The jebots disliked him.

    I thing the appointment of Barr, who appears to have dispatched Benito Weissarse, quickly put an end to the sheot show.

  514. Tom says:

    Will the lawyers here explain to me how these prosecutors can be launching investigations into Trump’s business dealings without probable cause? If they have any, I haven’t heard a read about it anywhere.

  515. Tgca says:

    …and if Bitter voted for Romney in the primaries and he won, we would be looking at President Clinton and the USSC would be on its way to 7 liberal justices, possibly 8 or 9 by 2024.

    Biting off you nose to spite your face really works well I see.

  516. Cash Cow TM says:


    a dell, Pa!
    lap deal
    leap lad
    pale lad
    lad plea
    lead pal

    plad ale?

  517. mnw says:


    Probable cause is the standard for obtaining a search warrant. There is no such standard, or indeed ANY standard at all, for initiating an investigation. For example, the FBI can open a preliminary investigation based on reasonable suspicion– as determined by one agent and one supervisory special agent.


    It wasn’t just the jabots here who casually suggested Giuliani wasn’t up to the job, was it, jason?

  518. Tgca says:

    So I got through the detailed summary findings in the obstruction of justice case of the S.C. Report.

    I thought when I saw a clip of Mark Levine ranting and raving it was an op-Ed that was just his right-centered bias and showmanship. But this far, except for one item, it seems Mueller got all these summaries from CNN or MSNBC. He is referring to comments made publicly by Trump and seems to be suggesting he was sending secret signals to folks. He also notes that Trump was essentially asking others who work for him to basically do damage control to offset media leaks. He believes asking Sessions to re-consider un-recusing himself and taking charge of the investigation and do what he believes is right without interference must be a horrible thing. Really? These constitute obstruction? I guess every politician would be in jail based on these types of items. These actions are normal political ways politicians operate. I saw no statement where he made clear POTUS broke the law or intimidated witnesses.

    The one area where I could see someone might construe and whether it was proper is his discussion with McGahn where he asks him to tell others to fire the S.C., of which McGahn immediately refused and that was the end of that. Mueller states that McGahn did not back down from POTUS and told Mueller he felt POTUS was testing his mettle which I read as POTUS seeing if he is strong enough to operate under pressure or someone who is not going to support aggressive defense of POTUS, which clearly I would want my attorney to do, otherwise, hire Sessions.

    Other than that, at least in the summary, I see not one iota of evidence outlined that we have not seen in the MSM that folks cannot attribute to his belligerent style. Now I can see why Mueller did not conclude because he would probably be laughed out of court.

    I will continue to read this and see if there really is any juicy bits to cling too but thus far in the detailed summary, I see nothing that was not already being said in public by or about Trump.

    …oh, and if POTUS lied or misled to media is obstruction, guess what, the prosecutors in DC are going to be busy with 535 prosecutions.

  519. Tina says:

    Be careful of the trump upset with Don Mcgahn, ex why counsel.

    Trump 2020 still employs mcgahns law firm.

  520. Tgca says:

    After reading this, I truly believe Mueller’s intent was to set the stage for impeachment because he could not find a crime. It makes sense why he hired aggressive Dem lawyers, including ones that were on Hillarys payroll which I still can’t believe he did.

    By making suggestive statements, Mueller probably knew it would be red meat but I don’t think the American public will bite. I just hope Barr and Trump’s counsel are equally aggressive and dismissing each of these items so the country can move on. Otherwise, we will have 2 more years of this in Congress. Not that it’s a bad thing for the GOP because I believe that will cause the Dems to lose the House, lose Senate seats, lose states, etc. because the country does not want to see constant bickering and do-nothing but investigate politicians. If the DOJ decides there’s nothing there, how can the Dems move on without attacking Barr, who was well-respected. In addition, the IG reports should help dissuade Congress but for the most liberal ones in safe districts. The Dems will have a lot to fight and they will lose the Indys and elections.

  521. mnw says:

    number to ponder:

    There are 30 DEM Congresspersons representing districts which Trump carried in 2016. The vast majority of those 30 are first-termers.

  522. Messy says:

    521. Then have a LOUSY Easter, then mnw.

    “The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in a sweeping and systematic fashion.” Part I, page 9

  523. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    537. Shouldn’t the focus of the Mueller report have been a detailed investigation of how the Russians interfered in the 2016 election, and who were the Russians who lead and directed it? Instead, Mueller ended up indicting a bunch of low level Russian flunkies who worked in want amounted to tech call centers. Mueller made getting Trump the focus of his investigation.
    He spent two years, and $30 million dollars, trying to find enough dirt on Trump to drive him out of office. He failed. History will not treat him kindly.

  524. Tgca says:

    537 Messy

    …and the SC report talks about attempts to influence US elections as far back as Jan 2015 when the IRA was making posts on Facebook and eventually made 80,000 posts reaching 136M folks between Jan 2015 and Aug 2017.

    Who was president in 2015? 2016?
    Didn’t Romney warn Obama in 2012 about Russian influence in 2012 debates and was mocked by media and Obama for it?
    Didn’t Obama team tell folks to play nice with Russia so he could get the Iranian deal, the reason no investigations were done into Russia meddling for the most part until he left office.

    Facts! Messy! Facts!

  525. Messy says:

    It was, and it’s in there. There wasn’t just a bunch of low-level flunkies, who were indicted, there were some oligarchs as well.

    okay, let’s look at this article from the Daily Caller (

    “Special counsel Robert Mueller’s report on the now-completed Russian investigation redacted virtually all of the content explaining the structure of the internet troll farm accused of interfering in the 2016 U.S. election.”

    In other words, they Did, but they were redacted to hide sources and methods.

    Not only that, thanks to the Meuller team, the US Cybercommand was able to launch a military cyberattack on the IRA last year!!!!(

  526. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Here is the intellectual depth of a top notch NY Times journalist and Robbie’s girlfriend, Maggie Haberman. This is unbelievably asinine:

    Clearly, the best scene in “The Sound of Music”.

  527. Tina says:

    The report says the Russians interfered since 2014.

    The obumbler did nada. I linked to a times or cnn report.

    So, we launched a cyber strike under trump? Further proof of no obstruction.

  528. Messy says:

    539. Yeah, Obama made some bad mistakes. ALL presidents do. But he never denied them once they were discovered. Trump says that the attack on America was a hoax and so do lots of people here like you and Tina.

  529. Messy says:

    Tina, how is a counterattack against the IRA (which Trump may not have approved, as it wasn’t necessary), proof of no obstruction?

    Obstruction of what? Everyone but Trump said the cyber-attacks happened, so there was no controversy.

  530. Bitterlaw says:

    Lent ended at noon. I can now go back to calling Trump scum.

    I am also relieved everyday that he beat Hillary.

  531. lisab says:

    But he (obama) never denied them once they were discovered.


  532. lisab says:

    Carl’s Jr. is debuting a weed burger for 4/20, and hopes are high

  533. lisab says:

    what is the opposite of a mermaid?

    a land ho

  534. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    543. Russian trolling existing long before 2016. The American energy industry was constantly the subject of Russian interference. The issue is a lot broader than just one troll farm in Russia.

    “But there is plenty of evidence in the form of a tangible money trail that links Vladimir Putin’s Russian government with U.S. environmental groups. In fact, the source of this funding has been subject of two congressional committee inquiries. Most recently, Rep. Lamar Smith, R-Texas, who chairs the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee, released a report in March that explores Russia’s motives for disrupting America’s energy sector.
    “Russia benefits from stirring up controversy about U.S. energy production,” Smith said in a press release. “U.S. energy exports to European countries are increasing, which means they will have less reason to rely upon Russia for their energy needs. This, in turn, will reduce Russia’s influence on Europe to Russia’s detriment and Europe’s benefit. That’s why Russian agents attempted to manipulate Americans’ opinions about pipelines, fossil fuels, fracking and climate change. The American people deserve to know if what they see on social media is the creation of a foreign power seeking to undermine our domestic energy policy.”
    Smith’s report describes the Russian scheme to use nonprofit entities to influence and sway U.S. public policy and public opinion against fracking. The evidence in the report shows that Russia has been using U.S. environmental groups to spread what Smith aptly describes as “propaganda” to undermine America’s natural gas revolution.

  535. Tina says:

    so we had a military cyber attack againsmt pooty poot, sanctions, and a strike against them in Syria,

    But trump has done nothing, compared to the obumbler, who allowed this to occur in the first place.

  536. Bitterlaw says:

    Tgca can save his lecture for Jason. He was the one willing to let Hillary win by sitting out the election. I played my part in defeating her in PA.

  537. Tina says:

    And trump was so in bed with the Russians leading up to the 2016 election, that pooty poot had no ways of contacting him or any campaign folks.

    Notice how Fuhrer makes no mention of pooty poot ability to contact Her Thighness and the rapist.

  538. Tgca says:

    544. Messy

    Obama made some mistakes? Oh, like Benghazi?

    Agreed, hindsight is 20/20 and all leaders err but to suggest Trump was in the pockets of the Russians while Obama ignored intelligence information and had his team purposely stand down to get the Iran deal when he was fully aware that Russians were interfering in the elections going back to 2014 takes brass balls. It’s like a hooker being virtuous and accusing someone of being a slut or whore.

    That’s what irritates us. Not that Obama made mistakes, but that others turned away from those serious lapses of judgments but try to pin much lesser mistakes on Trump as if t 1st started under Trump when they know that was not the case.

    We can’t wait for the IG report and DOJ investigations that will provide a much more detailed narrative than Mueller’s selective reporting.

  539. Tgca says:


    GFY Bitter. Don’t give me your heroic crap about saving PA. You know you want to own a house in south Jersey and evidently you’re ok with child molestor Menendez being re-elected as NJ senator.

    I know this is true because I read it in the past here on HHR by reliable sources.

  540. Bitterlaw says:

    I still have PTSD from the 2016 Battle of Radnor at the polls.

  541. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Obama and Clinton share the blame for the Ukraine disaster. Putin knew that Obama would stand aside and do nothing as he annexed the Crimea and supported pro-Russian groups in a civil war in the eastern Ukraine. Obama was a paper tiger, and Putin knew it.

  542. mnw says:

    The Yellow Vests, when wearing their helmets, look an awful lot like… cops. Can’t tell the players without a scorecard.

    Kind of like the Bluz & the Jets– each team’s home jersey looks like the other team’s road jersey.

  543. Tgca says:


  544. lisab says:

    So HHR now wants Republicans to act like zombie Democrats and never say a bad word about somebody who pretends to be in their party.

    people have not been allowed to complain about romney, mccain, flake, collins, or murkowski for a very long time

    especially mccain or romney

  545. Tina says:

    Dan Bongino
    Mitt Romney is the Lisa Murkowski of Jeff Flakes.

  546. lisab says:

    Dutch politician wants halal beach in The Hague – says “Muslims feel uncomfortable with scantil

  547. lisab says:

    School district that forced girls to shower with boys can’t get out of title ix lawsuit

    A federal court permitted a lawsuit to proceed against an Illinois school district that allows high school boys to use girls’ locker rooms, restrooms and showers in order to accommodate transgender students.

    But girls who don’t want to be seen naked by boys got bad news: The judge ruled that they have no right to “visual bodily privacy” if the government says so.

    Dozens of families sued the Chicago-area Township High School District 211 three years ago due to its policy letting students as young as 14 choose to use the locker rooms of the opposite sex.

    “All the students must use the restroom with the knowledge that someone of the opposite sex is present or could walk in at any time,” their lawyers at the Alliance Defending Freedom wrote in a background document on the case.

  548. lisab says:

    from half-truth news

    breaking: trump and melania were caught on camera this morning hiding children’s easter eggs! rather than simply giving the chocolate eggs to the children, trump and melania seemed to take great joy in hiding the candy from the children

  549. lisab says:

    if you hold the mueller report up to your ear,

    you can hear the sound of half-truth and other snowflakes screaming when hillary lost in 2016

  550. NYCmike says:

    Giuliani saved NYC, then saved the NYC-boy-turned-President!

  551. NYCmike says:


    Still won’t vote for Trump?

    WOW, you have a very high standard to meet.

  552. NYCmike says:

    5 6 7 !

  553. lisab says:

    speaking of snowflakes i ran into a coree-ish snowflake today at lunch

    (lisab enters sandwich shop section of grocery store and has to wait five minutes to get waited on even though she is the only customer)

    lisab: i’ll have a veggie sandwich, on marble rye, with chedder cheese, toasted, please?

    snowflake: starts looking in a book of recipes, and has to ask for help making the sandwich.

    snowflake: you don’t want sour dough?

    lisab: no, marble rye please (keep in mind the ingredient choices, for type of bread, fillings and toppings are listed on a big menu board)

    snowflake: do you want it toasted?

    lisab: yes please

    snowflake looks in ingredient book some more, begins to get harvarti cheese.

    lisab: cheddar please

    snowflake: you don’t want harvarti?

    lisab: no, cheddar cheese please.

    snowflake consults book again, eventually puts rye bread with cheddar cheese into toaster oven.

    snowflake: what kind of meat do you want?

    lisab: none, just veggies

    snowflake looks in book again

    lisab: i’ll have spinach, tomatoes, pickles, onions, black olives, yellow mustard, jalapenos, and banana peppers please

    snowflake: those are not the choices in the book

    lisab: i’m getting the toppings from the menu board there (pointing at menu board) where it says “choose your toppings”

    snowflake: those are not the same choices as in the book.

    (keep in mind this is now approaching a 15 minute operation)

    lisab: i am not choosing from the book, i’m reading there, where it says, “choose your own bread, cheese, and toppings” on the menu behind you.

    snowflake: oh … you want to choose your own toppings?!

    lisab: yes, i’ll have spinach, tomatoes, pickles, onions, black olives, yellow mustard, jalapenos, and banana peppers please

    snowflake: so you want spinich not the standard lettuce?

    lisab: no, i’ll have spinich

    snowflake: do you want tomatoes?

    lisab: yes, i’ll have spinach, tomatoes, pickles, onions, black olives, yellow mustard, jalapenos, and banana peppers please

    snowflake: you like purple onions on your sandwich? (clearly surprised)

    lisab: yes please …

    and then it took another few minutes for him to price it and bag it …

    then i went to the coffee bar, that had an open sign, and no one was there.

    so how was your day?

  554. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    568. Brutal. The comments below were also. As example:

    “Mitt Romney is a loser. Losers spend all their time complaining about the winner.”

  555. lisab says:

    “losers spend all their time complaining about the winner.”

    not true, sometimes they talk about the chicago bears

  556. Cash Cow TM says:

    It has come to my attention that “appalled” has TWO “p”s.

    So what I posted earlier in rearranging letters was incorrect.


    apple lad
    papa Dell
    a pal pled
    Dapple Al
    lapel pad
    led a Lapp

  557. JulStol says:

    If there’s one thing Tgca, LisaB, and I can agree on, its that the sandwich Lisa ordered sounds delicious, though I might have opted for brie instead of cheddar, and hold the olives…

  558. Bitterlaw says:

    I just watched Black Klansman. It was a tropical Sike Lee movie. Very good movie. Sledgehammer political ending for the last 10 minutes.

  559. Bitterlaw says:

    Typical Spike Lee

  560. lisab says:


    brie was not a choice

    american, cheddar, harvarti, shredded mozzarella, or pepperjack

  561. JulStol says:


    Of those choices, cheddar does make the most sense. With veggies I’d be tempted to opt for havarti but you need the sharpness of cheddar to complement the acid and heat from the pickles, banana peppers, yellow mustard, and jalapenos.

  562. lisab says:

    no argument

  563. mnw says:

    Let’s go Bluz. Bye-by, Winnipeg. Some of the Jets fans showed no class, altho their conduct wouldn’t even register on the Phillyfan rude-o-meter.

  564. Bitterlaw says:

    He is risen! Happy Easter.

    For those who do not celebrate Easter, have a good Sunday.

  565. Tgca says:

    Happy Easter y’all!

    For those who do not celebrate Easter, you wil suffer an eternity of damnation in the red hot blazes of Hell. But no judgment here.

  566. Tina says:

    Dr.Darrell Scott
    The Left is upset because @realDonaldTrump WANTED Russia to have something on Hillary that would help him win the 2016 electon, but they fail to mention that Hillary THOUGHT Russia had a dossier on Trump that would help HER win the election,& she paid for it like a sucker!

    7:18 PM – Apr 20, 2019

  567. dblaikie says:

    Bitter, my feeling exactly! For those of us who are Christian. Christ is risen. For those who are not, enjoy this celebration of pastel colors, bunnies and Spring. Either way have a wonderful day.

  568. mnw says:

    Since my kids were born, I’ve played a little game with them, in which they know my preferred answers to these questions:

    “What does Santa Claus have to do with Christmas? What does the Easter Bunny have to do with Easter?”

    Answer: “Absolutely nothing!”

  569. Bitterlaw says:

    While he is correct from a religious sense, mnw demonstrates why men should not start families in their 70s. He probably puts Easter eggs in his yard just to yell “Get off my lawn!” at children trying to collect them.

  570. mnw says:

    I started a family in my mid-50’s actually, BL. My kids are into cars, girls & sports now. I think Easter eggs are no longer of much interest to them– but we did the egg hunt thing for years.

    Anybody in Philly remember former Flyers head coach (& player & asst coach) Craig Berube? The Chief is having second innings as head coach for the Blues now.

  571. lisab says:

    “Some people” did something again…churches and hotels targeted leaving 138 dead in Sri Lanka

  572. lisab says:

    ‘Whiteness Studies’ Professor Says White People Who Treat All Races Equally Are ‘Dangerous’

    By Michael Lee | Apr 19, 2019

    “I’d like to be a little less white, which means a little less oppressive.”

    A guest lecturer at Boston University said last month that white people who judge others as individuals instead of by their skin color are “dangerous,” according to a report in the College Fix.

    The lecture, entitled “What Does It Mean To Be White,” was given by University of Washington Professor Robin DiAngelo, a white woman.

    DiAngelo, who according to her website specializes in “whiteness studies,” added that people who say they’ve been taught to treat everyone the same deny black people their reality.

  573. lisab says:

    Government school officials in California think it is “really important” to teach children about pedophilia and pederasty in the classroom because it is a “sexual orientation.” That is according to a top official for California’s Brea Olinda School District, who admitted to parents that it was being done — and that it would continue, despite the outrage. The implications are mind-blowing.

    The stunning admission came after a parent-information meeting last month for the Brea Olinda Unified School District (BOUSD). Stephanie Yates, founder of Informed Parents of California, asked school officials why they were “teaching pedophilia in school to 9th graders.” But instead of a denial that such an atrocity was taking place, a top school official confirmed it was happening and acted like there was nothing wrong with it.

    “This is done because we are talking about historical perspectives of how gender relations and different types of sexual orientations have existed in history,” said BOUSD Assistant Superintendent of Curricula Kerrie Torres in a matter-of-fact way, sounding almost oblivious to how the bombshell might sound to normal people.

  574. lisab says:

    Man who killed Ottawa cyclist obstructed justice because he feared racist police, avoids jail time

    An Ottawa landscaper who covered his tracks and hid from police after a deadly hit-and-run has been spared jail time by a judge who accepted his explanation that a fear of turning himself in was heightened because he’s a “man of colour” afraid of racist police.

    In 2015, Andy Nevin, 39, was cycling along Leitrim Road when Deinsberg St-Hilaire’s pickup truck smashed into him. St-Hilaire was found not guilty of dangerous driving causing death in 2018, but pleaded guilty to obstruction of justice.

    During his trial, court heard that St-Hilaire went to substantive lengths to hide his involvement in Nevin’s death.

    The maximum penalty for obstruction of justice is two years in prison, but Ontario Superior Court Justice Catherine Aitken instead sentenced St-Hilaire to 100 hours of community service. In the conditional sentence, delivered Wednesday, the judge also gave St-Hilaire a curfew of 10 p.m. for one year, unless it’s snowing. (She wanted to accommodate his winter snow plow job.)

    The judge noted that St-Hilaire’s fear of racist police was connected to past traffic stops where he said he’d been treated unfairly.

  575. lisab says:

    Democrats have seen the strong diversity in their field — with candidates like Senators Elizabeth Warren and Kamala Harris reflecting the multiracial and largely female base of the party — become somewhat overshadowed by white male candidates.” ny times

    senator pocahontas is multi-racial?

  576. jason says:

    senator pocahontas is multi-racial?

    Fauxcahontas could be 1/1000 American Indian, don’t forget.

  577. jason says:

    But he never denied them once they were discovered.”

    Obama never denied his errors?


    Did he ever apologize for buying off Ben Nelson to approve Obamacare.

    Did he ever apologize for selling Obamacare under completely fake pretenses, that it would reduce premiums and “you could keep you own doctor”. With those lies he accomplished a big government intervention in 1/6th of economy, destroying a system 85% of Americans were happy with.

    Obama has a lot of scandals, real ones, not fake ones like “collusion” and he never admitted to any of them.

  578. jason says:

    He is risen! Happy Easter.

    For those who do not celebrate Easter, have a good Sunday.”

    Easter has no religious significance to me but I celebrate it anyway.


  579. jason says:

    Trump is a bitter, vindictive mf-er who rips everybody regardless of party>

    Yeah, so what else is new?

    Romney is a bitter, vindictive unprincipled scumbag who has decided to be a patsy and a sycophant for the same MSM who destroyed him in 2012. A clear victim of the Stockholm syndrome.

    I prefer a genuine and authentic bitter, scumbag vindictive m-fer.

    I would have crawled through live machine gun fire to vote for Romney over Trump in 2016.

    Now I would donate to a Democrat running against him for dog catcher.

    He has turned out to be a completely disgusting, contemptible excuse for a human being.

  580. jason says:

    Carl’s Jr. is debuting a weed burger for 4/20, and hopes are high”

    If its served on a sugar bun Tgca will go for it.

  581. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw – Good for Berube. I remember him more as a coach. Typical Flyers move – hire a former player as a coach and not win a Stanley Cup for 44 years.

  582. jason says:

    Ukraine elects first Jewish President.

    A real breakthrough for a country associated with a lot of anti-semitism.

  583. jason says:

    So HHR now wants Republicans to act like zombie Democrats and never say a bad word about somebody who pretends to be in their party.”


    I say plenty of bad words against Trump here, I never hold back from attacking policies or comments I think are asinine, of which there are many.

    But Romney’s attacks have nothing to do with disagreements on policy, its just gratuitous personal attacks designed to incur favor with his new found MSM friends.

    The fact he thinks they admire him shows the depth of his delusion.

    He wants socialists to win in 2020 because somehow that will be “bad” for Trump. Just like Amoral Scumbag and Corey.

  584. lisab says:

    Corree says,

    the new jewish ukrainian president is like a nazi because he is like trump

  585. jason says:

    “Trump says that the attack on America was a hoax”

    What he said was the investigation into collusion with the Russians by him or his campaign was a hoax.

    He denies that the Russians actually swayed the election, and I agree with him. But he accepts that the Russians tried to meddle.

    “While Russia’s actions had no impact at all on the outcome of the election, let me be totally clear in saying — and I’ve said this many times — I accept our intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia’s meddling in the 2016 election took place,” he said.”

  586. Cash Cow TM says:

    Seems like the Dems are gonna pick an old, odd rich white guy for the top slot.

    So…which of these is really angling for the VP slot?

    Pete Buttigieg 9%
    Bet O’Rourke 8%
    Kamala Harris 8%
    Elizabeth Warren 7%

    Who brings the most to the table politically?

    (women’s vote and all that..)

  587. Cash Cow TM says:

    A shame Booker is not doing better.

    He could pick a running mate named
    “T and The MGs”

  588. lisab says:

    harris has failed

    i would choose the lady from hawaii

  589. jason says:

    The Washington Post reported last week that Perkins Coie, an international law firm, was directed by both the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton’s campaign to retain Fusion GPS in April of 2016 to dig up dirt on then-candidate Donald Trump. Fusion GPS then hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy, to compile a dossier of allegations that Trump and his campaign actively colluded with the Russian government during the 2016 election. Though many of the claims in the dossier have been directly refuted, none of the dossier’s allegations of collusion have been independently verified. Lawyers for Steele admitted in court filings last April that his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public.”

    Steele admitted his work was not verified and was never meant to be made public.

    Messy, however, still won’t admit it is just pure, unadulterated garbage.

  590. jason says:


    No chance.

    The moonbats won’t forgive her involvement in efforts to “reverse being gay”.

    I wouldn’t spend a dime trying to get Tgca to become straight, but I would send $100 to a program to wean the poor bastard off organic maple syrup, pumpkin seeds and bunya nuts.

  591. jason says:

    Not that the Mueller report is out, the NYT finally admits the Steele Dossier is probably fake.

    Romney, Amoral Scumbag and Corey should be really proud of their sycophantic devotion to the MSM.

  592. Tgca says:

    Jadon is gonna be so jealous.

    Tonight I had a Superfood veggie burger (no bun) with melted Gouda cheese garnished with Chipotle Jalapeño seasoning. The burger is mostly quinoa and very high antioxidants veggies. I accompanied this with fresh artichokes smothered in an Alfredo sauce mixed with fresh ricotta and Parmesan cheeses and delicately seasoned with fresh black pepper and oregano. Of course everything was organic and fresh.


  593. Tgca says:

    Oh…and the canine children had their daily homemade chicken stew with tenderly prepared chicken breast, broccoli, cauliflower, sweet potatoes, arugula, spinach, and carrots in a delicately flavored garlic and basil broth garnished with some blueberries and chewable doggies multivitamins. For dessert they will have a carob covered peanut butter pup cup made especially for canines….and of course everything is naturally homemade with organic ingredients.


    Jadon’s dog and cat hit hardest! They want to come live with Tgca!

  594. jason says:

    Poor suffering bastard, still yearning for burgers but forcing himself to eat a fake burger.

    Quinoa burger.. geezus.

    Easter lunch was good here, I grilled some huge 16 oz T-bone steaks.

  595. jason says:

    Tgca should be arrested for giving his dogs garlic and sweet potatoes.

  596. Tgca says:

    MAGA B*tches!


  597. jason says:

    Notwithstanding Dershowitz’s theory that a President could not commit obstruction in this case, I read the 10 instances where Mueller investigated for possible obstruction of justice (not, as the MSM reports, 10 cases of obstruction of justice).

    I tried to keep an open mind on each of them. Some are patently ridiculous, such as where he wanted to “limit the scope of the investigation” (duhhh) or where he was trying to put a political spin on the Trump Tower meeting (duhhh, nothing happened at the meeting so whether he characterized it correctly or no doesn’t matter, and Mueller said as much). In the firing of Comey, Mueller said he didn’t think Trump was trying to impede the investigation, but he “might” be trying to keep “something” else (he doesn’t say what) embarrassing from coming out (zzzzzz).

    The only instance that IMO could be interpreted as obstruction was telling McGhan to fire Mueller, but even that is very murky. In the first place, Mueller wasn’t fired, and McGhan says Trump never followed up and asked him why. Second, Trump didn’t really need McGhan to fire Mueller, he could have fired him any way he wanted to. Third, Conway has a different recollection of the event.

    At the end of the day, even Mueller is clear that the investigation was really not impeded in any way, the WH cooperated with all the documents, and executive privilege was never exerted. The theory that “maybe” Trump “intended” the investigation to be impeded even though it never was is very iffy, and certainly the Senate would never convict him of obstruction if that all the Dems have.

  598. Wes says:

    Since Walker passed his sell-by date Johnson is considering running again.

  599. jason says:

    Btw, remember all the hoopla on how Flynn, Papadopoulos, Cohen, etc. were “cooperating” and in each case the MSM declared it was the end of the Trump presidency.

    It doesn’t look like any of the them provided anything of value to Mueller because not only did Mueller clear Trump of collusion, and the possible obstruction cases don’t seem to have much to do with their “cooperation” except the “well, he tried the carrot and stick approach with Cohen”.

  600. jason says:

    Wes is talking about sin this early in the morning?

  601. jason says:

    The only sin I have committed so far today is gluttony. If I had shared my breakfast with the homeless in York at least five of them would have eaten well.

    “Gluttony means over-indulgence and over-consumption of food, drink, or wealth items, particularly as status symbols. In Christianity, it is considered a sin if the excessive desire for food causes it to be withheld from the needy.”

    My only out here is that I don’t consider myself a Christian. Also in my defense, I don’t consider bacon a status symbol.

    And of course, if Tgca shared his breakfast, at least 5 of homeless would have gone into a diabetic coma and another five would have been arrested for public disturbance resulting from the sugar high.

  602. jason says:

    Tgca says:
    April 22, 2019 at 8:50 am

    MAGA B*tches!


    I think organic maple syrup should come with a warning label and overdose instructions.

  603. Tina says:

    Mcgahn apparently made three (varying) statements on the issue and nobody confirms this. We do not criminalize thought, Trump could have fired Mulehead, and Mcghans role in it is a non factor. But he never did.

    Remember, this is the same Mulehead trump met with 4 hours the day before Redactstein appointed him as Sc. The same Mulehead who trump has a business dispute with. The meeting was supposedly over the fib chief position, the replacement for Mulehead,

  604. Tgca says:

    Ah! Starting the day with two eggs (perfectly rounded egg whites) drizzled with fresh black pepper and layered with Jarlsberg cheese sprinkled Chipotle Jalapeño seasoning and melted to perfection and topped with a delicately tasty cream sauce garnished with fresh basil and oregano.

    …this is how we do it in South Jersey.

    Jadon hit hardest!

  605. jason says:

    This guy really a moron.

    ‘Not ruling out impeachment, Rep. Jerrold Nadler, who chairs the House committee that would hold impeachment hearings, said he remained puzzled why Mueller did not bring charges of criminal conspiracy against those in the Trump Tower meeting.

    “All you have to prove for conspiracy is that they entered into a meeting of the minds to do something wrong and had one overt act. They entered into a meeting of the minds to attend a meeting to get stolen material on Hillary (Clinton). They went to the meeting. That’s conspiracy right there,” said Nadler, D-N.Y.”

    Tina is wrong. We do criminalize thoughts.

    Entered into a meeting “of the minds to…”

  606. jason says:

    Of course, there was no evidence the Russian woman had any “stolen Russian material” or even “promised any stolen Russian material”. Even if she offered dirt on Hillary, dirt is not necessarily “stolen”.

  607. jason says:

    And if I remember correctly, what was supposedly offered was info on campaign violations, nothing to do with Wikileaks.

  608. Tgca says:

    Clearly Jadon is guilty of perjury after I summarized the 10 instances in 533. That, or either small minds think alike.

  609. jason says:

    “… delicately tasty cream sauce garnished with fresh basil and oregano.”

    Gayest post of the day, but it’s early.

  610. jason says:

    Clearly Jadon is guilty of perjury after I summarized the 10 instances in 533.”

    Sugar destroys the mind.

    I think you mean plagiarism.

  611. Tina says:

    This must be the meeting that discussed Russian adoptions?

    Is that what Nadler is referring to?

    Yes, the same meeting attended by Russian, Vida something.

    Vida so happened to get a special visa to be in country, by an Obama politico.

    The same Vida who met with Fusion before and after the meeting.

  612. Tina says:

    Remember how one sided the witch hunt was:

    Simpson says he never met her. Yet he did. Is he charged with perjury or obstruction?

    The Benito Weissman report (Mulehead report) also notes that “Russian” Mifsud lies several times.

    Is he charged? Oh wait, I forgot papadope prevented him somehow from being charged.

    The same papadope who was basically charged with lying about the date he joined the trump campaign and met with Mifsud.

  613. Tina says:

    Funny how woodworm now admits the dossier was fake and Mulehead knew it.

    Woodworm alsomadmits thst the dossier was put in an intelligence briefing by the cia. What he means, is the commie, Brennan, put it in an Intelligence briefing for the obumbler.

  614. mnw says:


    Nadler’s comment on federal conspiracy would embarrass a pre-law undergrad.

    “do something wrong”? Really? Doesn’t have to be, like… a CRIME?

  615. Tgca says:


    Got you! That was entrapment. I tricked you into admitting plagiarism. This is why I advised that Trump should not have responded to Mueller’s requests.

    You can now be indicted on HHR by fair-minded people like Corey, Robbie, and Messy.

  616. Tina says:

    Chuck Ross
    falsely claimed that
    was offered stolen info at Trump Tower meeting.
    failed to correct him. In truth, Don Jr. was offered info collected by Fusion GPS. (link:…

  617. jason says:

    Right, besides Nadler, I haven’t read anywhere that this Vida woman had any “stolen Hillary information”.

    Of course, as Giuliani made clear yesterday, information is not exactly like jewelry, it’s not a crime to use information even if it is “stolen”. The Wikileaks info was hacked and used in Trump’s campaign, that wasn’t a crime.

    Even though it didn’t happen, if the Russian woman had divulged anything about Hillary’s campaign violations in the meeting, there would not be a crime in using it unless something was promised or paid in return for it. And even then, it was never completely shown this woman was a Russian agent acting in an official capacity, and certainly that was not how she sold herself to get the meeting.

    The DNC was paying a foreign party like Steele for dirt on Trump, right? Was that a problem?

    Nadler is an idiot.

  618. jason says:

    Digging up dirt on Trump: opposition research.

    Digging up dirt on Hillary: conspiracy and treason.

  619. Tgca says:

    …and to be honest, Jadon is guilty of perjury too. I just chose to focus on the more proveable point to his plagiarism.

    Ask Robbie, he has all the details of Jadon’s perjury since I don’t recall the specifics but Jadon trashed Trump during 2016 but is now a Trump sycophant. We must consider Jadon’s intent over his actions when considering perjury.

  620. jason says:

    “They went to the meeting. That’s conspiracy right there,”

    Is Nadler a lawyer?

  621. Tgca says:

    You guys are just too blind to see the evidence. You have to understand how the Dems see it. They do have a point. Some people did some things. What they did or whom did it does not matter. It’s all impeachable.

  622. jason says:

    Ask Robbie, he has all the details of Jadon’s perjury since I don’t recall the specifics but Jadon trashed Trump during 2016 but is now a Trump sycophant. We must consider Jadon’s intent over his actions when considering perjury.”

    Right, but Corey had the right charge for this crime.


  623. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #617- jason
    I agree with your analysis including the McGahn statement potentially being legally and politically troubling.
    Ex- Trump personal attorney,John Dowd, was interviewed on FOX News this morning and took issue with the veracity of the McGahn claim. Here is Dowd’s 3 1/2 minute interview on the subject. Let us/me know what you think.

  624. jason says:


    Got you! That was entrapment..”

    Did Tgca just admit to entrapment?

    Good, because the HHR trial would have and been open and shut case anyway

  625. mnw says:

    RAS 47/51 & -8 today. That is consistent with an Ipsos poll over the weekend showing some deterioration since the redacted report was released.

    A federal criminal conspiracy is a combination of two or more persons working together to accomplish an unlawful purpose.

    I prosecuted conspirators for 27 years, but I feel as if I’ve fallen down the rabbit hole into Wonderland now. What the hell?

  626. Tina says:

    Donna Brazil’s continues to like on cn and n lite aka faux news:

    “I think they did everything they could without sounding all of the alarm bells,” Brazile said during an appearance on “The Daily Briefing” with Dana Perino.

    Brazile claims that the Obama administration did everything in their power but were ultimately hamstrung about public perception. She maintains that he didn’t have a handle on his Justice Department because he was afraid it would look like he was helping Crooked Hillary’s presidential ambitions.

    “He was in a box,” Brazile said about Obama. “Perhaps President Trump is in a box.”

    Yes’m now the obumbler did not have control over his justice dept.

  627. Tgca says:


    Is that like existentialism?

  628. Tina says:

    Mcgahn made three different statements on the matter.

    Yes, three different ones. I bet Benito Weissarse took the statement that is most damaging.

    Also, continue to note that Trump 2020:continues to employ Mcghanns law firm.

  629. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Bitter, jason and Other NHL fans:
    Comcast owns the Philadelphia Flyers. Here is their disgraceful, mealy-mouthed and cowardly statement on the Kate Smith situation:
    The Flyers released the following statement on Sunday:

    “The Flyers have enjoyed a long and popular relationship with ‘God Bless America,’ as performed by the late Kate Smith, a woman who was awarded the Presidential Medal of Honor for her patriotic contributions to our nation.

    “But in recent days, we learned that several of the songs Kate Smith performed in the 1930s include lyrics and sentiments that are incompatible with the values of our organization, and evoke painful and unacceptable themes.”

    The Flyers quoted team president Paul Holmgren as saying: “The NHL principle ‘Hockey is for Everyone’ is at the heart of everything the Flyers stand for. As a result, we cannot stand idle while material from another era gets in the way of who we are today.”

    I hope they never win another game!

  630. Tina says:

    Yes, trump wanted to get rid of F Mulehead. So much som that he sent Mulehead words of encouragement to Mulehead.

  631. Tina says:

    Sheeple very short interview and he contradicts Mcgahn, at least the statement attributed to him in the Weissman report.

    Faux should have had him on longer.

    Brilliant lawyer.

  632. jason says:

    644. Hey, Sheep, good link, thanks.

    Several takes:

    1) Dowd is giving McGhan an out here, “misunderstanding”. But in any case, Dowd would be a powerful witness for the President if it comes to that. And I like the part where Mueller supposedly understands that Trump’s tweets are “political”, which is the truth.

    2) Dowd is also giving Mueller an out when he testifies. When I read the report, I got the feeling a lot of it was written either by underlings or by the some of the more partisan players on Mueller’s team. It’s possible that Mueller will give Dems less rather than more, than what is on the report. I don’t think Mueller wrote this report himself, or most of it. I think he signed off on it as a consensus document. I could be wrong but I think he is not going to go to Congress and go beyond his report, he is going to say this is it, and I don’t think he is going to dispute Barr’s interpretation.

    3) It would be dangerous to throw McGhan under the bus and call him a liar. But it’s very strange that if Trump REALLLY wanted Mueller fired, it wouldn’t have happened. We already know him better than that.

  633. jason says:

    “But in recent days, we learned that several of the songs Kate Smith performed in the 1930s include lyrics and sentiments that are incompatible with the values of our organization, and evoke painful and unacceptable themes.”

    I see.

    Well, let’s see what the Dems do about Exalted Cyclops Robert Byrd.

    In 1944 he wrote:

    “I shall never fight in the armed forces with a negro by my side … Rather I should die a thousand times, and see Old Glory trampled in the dirt never to rise again, than to see this beloved land of ours become degraded by race mongrels, a throwback to the blackest specimen from the wilds.”

    In 1946 he wrote:

    “The Klan is needed today as never before, and I am anxious to see its rebirth here in West Virginia and in every state in the nation.”

    Was that “material from another era”?

  634. jason says:

    Yes’m now the obumbler did not have control over his justice dept.”

    Not to worry.

    According to Messy, Obama will be admitting this right away, because he never denies a mistake “once it is discovered”.

  635. Phil says:

    Russia, Russia, Russia……

    It never ends.


  636. Tgca says:

    Why don’t we remove every monument of the Founding Fathers as well because many were racist and owned slaves. Better yet, the Declaration of Independence should be invalidated because so many white racist men signed it…and what about #MeToo. How come we don’t have Founding Mothers or women signing the Declaration?

    FDR supposedly made known racist remarks including Elenor’s and her n*ggers. LBJ repeatedly used inappropriate language against AA. We won’t even get into the KKK loving Senator Byrd. Justice Thurgood Marshall in his biography quoted Robert Kennedy making derogatory remarks about AA…and we also have the Camelot 1st Lady Jackie Kennedy on tape making despicable racist comments aimed at MLK.

    What hypocrisy! All these folks came after Kate Smith’s 1932 song so why aren’t they being criticized and shunned. Simple! Racist commentary does not apply to Dems or their heroes and the times in which they occurred seem to apply.

  637. Wes says:

    Let’s not forget Woodrow Wilson (D-NJ) was a virulently racist President who pushed blacks out of civil service during his time with in the White House.

  638. mnw says:


    The Yankees & the Flyers banished Kate Smith. With lots of AA players in MLB, & surprisingly many AC (Afro-Canadians) in the NHL, sports teams are easy targets for pressure groups. Just banning the song was the path of least resitance.

  639. jason says:

    “Ask Robbie, he has all the details of Jadon’s perjury since I don’t recall the specifics but Jadon trashed Trump during 2016 but is now a Trump sycophant. We must consider Jadon’s intent over his actions when considering perjury.”

    Yes, in 2016 I said I thought Trump would be much better than Hillary regarding judicial appointments, energy policy, deregulation, strengthening the military, climate change policy, taxes, and helping small businesses. I had reservations about his trade policy, foreign policy, building a wall and attacks on fellow Rs. I was on record as saying I thought the “sexual predator” charges were a bunch of garbage, especially when compared to Bill Clinton.

    In 2019, I support Trump on judicial appointments, energy policy, deregulation, strengthening the military, climate change policy, taxes, and pro-business agenda. I have reservations about his trade policy, foreign policy, building a wall and attacks on fellow Rs.
    I still think the “sexual predator” charges are a bunch of garbage especially when compared to Bill Clinton.

    See the perjury? No?

    How about the transactionalism? Surely that is there.

  640. Chicon says:

    Mnw, nicely done by those Blues. A little rest before the next series will be nice. Any big injuries in round one?

  641. Bitterlaw says:

    Sheeple – I doubt that you wanted the Flyers to win any games before the issue with Kate Smith.

  642. NYCmike says:

    “Easter has no religious significance to me but I celebrate it anyway.”

    -One more excuse to kill a lamb, as if jason needed another one!

  643. NYCmike says:

    Screw the Flyers and the Yankees!

    They should have simply just stopped using the recording of her singing, and left it at that.

    To take it further and do this virtue-signaling b*llsh*t is ridiculous!

  644. NYCmike says:

    As for hockey, congrats to the Bluzzzz, LET’S GO ISLANDERS, and for the Canadian fans still around, their only hope rests with the Toronto Maple Leafs, who face a 7th game against the Boston Bruins.

    My bro-in-law is from Toronto area, so I will root for the Maple Leafs in Game 7. He also had lived with my sis in the San Jose area, so I will have to root for the San Jose Sharks in their Game 7, although I really do love what Las Vegas has done with their franchise!

    Playoff Hockey is AWESOME!

  645. Tina says:

    Biden is dropping…

    Political Polls
    · 53m
    2020 Iowa Democratic Caucus:
    Sanders 19%
    Biden 19%
    Buttigieg 14%
    Harris 6%

  646. Tina says:

    Hey they said Fuhrer Mulehead did not leak.

    Elisabeth Bumiller
    · Apr 20
    If much of the Mueller report sounds familiar, it’s because much of it appeared in exclusives in The Times and other media in the past two years (link:…

  647. Bitterlaw says:

    Fuhrer? Zzzzzzzzzz

  648. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    667. “Biden is dropping…”

    Biden is reportedly planning to announce this week. Once he starts actively campaigning, will see if his poll numbers rise.

  649. Waingro says:

    Wow, this Buttigieg rise is legit! Beto plummeting.

    New UNH NH poll:

    Sanders 30
    Biden 18
    Buttigieg 15
    Warren 5
    Harris 4
    Beto 3
    Booker 3
    Klobuchar 2
    Yang 2
    Gillibrand 1
    Gabbard 1

  650. Tgca says:


    Of course Jadon will deny perjury charges. When do unsavory characters ever admit their crimes? I think Jadon may need some legal representation. Bitter? MNW?

  651. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    671. Looks like Warren is falling even though she is promising every freebie imaginable. She needs to up her game; its time her campaigned offered voters eternal life.

  652. NYCmike says:

    All Gillibrand has to do is get her relatives from that NXIVM company out and about, and she will start RISING IN THE POLES…….err, polls.

  653. Tgca says:

    Post 666

    Bitter associated with post 666. Hmmm… That has meaning to us Catholics. Is Bitter known by the name Damian as well? Is anyone in Bitter’s family named Rosemary? Bitter coaches teenage girls basketball team…though they never win. Has Roman Polanski ever attended any of Bitter’s games.

    These are important questions that must be answered as there appears to be unexplained coincidences here.

    I’m sure they can be addressed once HHR assigns Corey, Robbie, or Messy to investigate whether or not Jadon committed perjury and plagiarism. As Jadon’s legal counsel, why stop at Jadon. Bitter should be subject to investigation as well. I’m sure the HHR final report on Jadon and Bitter will be fair and balanced, just like FOX News.

  654. Bitterlaw says:

    I welcome the investigation. I will also beat anybody who seriously accuses me with a 33 inch softball bat.

  655. mnw says:


    No injuries at all, as far as I know. There is one defenseman who doesn’t play that much named Bortuzzo, but it’s unclear if he’s injured or a de facto healthy scratch. Injury-wise, that’s about as good as it’s ever been.

    The Blues really only played 2 good games– 5 & 6, though.


    I didn’t make the connection that you were an Isles fan.

  656. DW says:

    Unless one or both of them drop dead from old age, it appears Biden or Sanders will be the Dem nominee.

  657. DW says:

    As of today, 20 clowns crammed into the Dem party primary circus car.

  658. Tgca says:

    Beyond Meat is going public and Tyson Chicken is a backer, along with Bill Gates, and ex McD CEO. Besides being sold in many national chain stores, it’s on the menu at TGIF and A&W soon to expand to many other restaurants. Major Wall Street and IPO backers too. This is only the beginning!



    Jadon hardest hit!

    It’s been a bad week for Jadon. His dog and cat are looking to move in with TG in south Jersey to enjoy delicious homemade meals and live more healthy and extended their lives…and now this.

    Rumor has it Mrs. Jadon will be sneakin’ in Beyond Meat burgers into Jadon’s meals. He’ll never know the difference and continue to compliment Mrs. Jadon on her fine meal preparations.

  659. NYCmike says:

    “I didn’t make the connection that you were an Isles fan.”

    -Since they picked a kid named Mike Bossy with their #1 pick in 1977, after being passed over by 12 teams, including the Rangers and Maple Leafs twice!*

    *I will note that I do not like how Bossy has attempted to downplay the brilliance of a man named Wayne Gretzky, aka “The Great One”. Seems like sour grapes to me.

  660. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw plans to bring a softball bat to a gun fight. That can’t end well—for him.

  661. Tgca says:

    New thread Ladies!