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Sanders/Biden Tied in IA, Sanders Leads By Double Digits in NH

Gravis Marketing put out a new poll for the state of Iowa for the Democratic caucuses and it shows Bernie sanders and Joe Biden in a tie for first with Pete Buttigieg 5% behind in third. Nobody else hits double digits.

PRESIDENT – IOWA – DEM CAUCUS (Gravis)
Bernie Sanders 19%
Joe Biden 19%
Pete Buttigieg 14%
Kamala Harris 6%
Elizabeth Warren 6%
Beto O’Rourke 5%
Cory Booker 4%
Amy Klobuchar 4%
John Delaney 2%
Tulsi Gabbard 1%
Mike Gravel 1%
Andrew Yang 1%
John Hickenlooper 1%
Kirsten Gllibrand 1%
Jay Inslee 0%
Julian Castro 0%

this poll was done April 17-18 among 590 likely caucus goers. Meanwhile in the other early state of New Hampshire, the University of that state has Bernie Sanders opening up a double-digit lead on Joe Biden.

PRESIDENT – NEW HAMPSHIRE – DEM PRIMARY (UNH)
Bernie Sanders 30%
Joe Biden 18%
Pete Buttigieg 15%
Elizabeth Warren 5%
Kamala Harris 4%
Cory Booker 3%
Beto O’Rourke 3%
Amy Klobuchar 3%
Andrew Yang 2%
Tim Ryan 2%
Wayne Messam 1%
Kirsten Gillibrand 1%
Tulsi Gabbard 1%
Eric Swalwell 1%
John Delaney 0%
Julian Castro 0%
Jay Inslee 0%

PRESIDENT – NEW HAMPSHIRE – GOP PRIMARY (UNH)
Donald Trump (inc) 76%
John Kasich 10%
William Weld 5%
Larry Hogan 1%

This poll was done April 10-18 among 241 likely Democratic primary voters and 208 likely Republican primary voters.

Posted by Dave at 6:30 pm
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142 Responses to “Sanders/Biden Tied in IA, Sanders Leads By Double Digits in NH”

  1. Tgca says:

    Uno Bebe! Uno!

  2. Proud Obamacon says:

    39% approval .. drip DRIP DRIPPPP

    LOL the people never bought Barr’s umm “interpretation” . Corrupt traitors all over.

    I’ll take any Dem in 2020 and maybe we can start to repair Democracy

    #WORST.PRESIDENT.EVAHHH

  3. Proud Obamacon says:

    Howdy Jason,

    How’s it like living in your fantasy America where Natives have been exterminated, Negros are enslaved, women are subservient, and White Men rule the land?

    LOL maybe yall can use a time machine invented by immigrants to travel back to 1830 and live in your utopia!

    LOL

  4. Bitterlaw says:

    Proud Obamacon is killing it tonight. Comedy gold.

  5. Proud Obamacon says:

    Thank you thank you. It’s all Jason though. I just used his style and subbed in some of my own words. Come on Jay , where’s your post about my paradise in North Korea and Venezuela? Come on sport, I’m waiting LOLLLLL Loosah

  6. Hunter says:

    Don’t tell Proud TROLL but the stock market is nearing another all-time high. It must drive TROLLS like him crazy.

    -Hunter

  7. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Tyler Diamond?@
    “If you think your vote doesn’t matter, check out the price of gas right now.

    Average Gas Prices: 22 Apr 2019
    California $4.03
    Texas $2.37
    National $2.84
    In some areas of California gas is now $5.00 a gallon

  8. Wes says:

    Part of me wants Trump to win next year to see the spontaneous combustion of liberals across the nation.

  9. Tina says:

    Looks like gaffes announcement has been delayed.

    He has to stop at a few more 7-11s and sniff women and children,

  10. Tina says:

    Source for the postponement is a staff writer for the Atlantic,

    Edward-Isaac Dovere
    @IsaacDovere
    ·
    1h
    Several sources say the Biden announcement, which had been planned for Wednesday by video, has now been pushed back

  11. mnw says:

    Many libs in Charlottesville thought it was disrespectful to use the site of the murder there as a political campaign prop, like Zero’s Greek columns.

  12. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Before you get too excited Obamaclown, in March when the Barr released his summary the Morning Consult poll showed Trump with 42% support; three points above what the poll now claims; and the poll has a 4% margin of error.

    You and other trolls predicted that the Mueller Report would sink the Trump presidency, and force him out of office. Now the only solace you have left is a change in poll numbers that is within the margin of error. The Mueller report is one of the biggest political duds of this century.

  13. Tina says:

    M.Joseph Sheppard
    @SHEPMJS
    ·
    2h
    Trump Approval got a boost (Rasmussen 53%) with Barr synopsis, getting a hit post redacted Mueller report MSM craziness. Aggregate about-2 where it was prior to Barr at 44%. Let’s see a week from now.
    Today;
    Rasmussen 47% -5
    Morning Consult 39%-5
    YouGov 44% +1
    HarrisX 45%-1

  14. Tina says:

    Plurality oppose impeachment,

    Indies breaking against. Impeaching.

    Per Harris poll

  15. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #13
    In the Morning Consult Poll, the pollster moved the PID from 36(D) to 35(R) last week to 37(D) to 30(R) this week, a net movement to the Democrats of 6 pts.
    Also, can polling over and on Easter Weekend be accurate?

  16. jason says:

    ObamaCON is hoping the US will turn into his Marxist Venezuela paradise.

    I haven’t seen him this excited since he announced Hillary was a sure thing to win Arizona and Georgia and was now fighting for Texas.

  17. Trump says:

    I’m f^&cked.

  18. jason says:

    Women are selling their hair in Venezuela to get by as Proud ObamaCON shills for Maduro.

    Socialism 2020!

    https://apnews.com/6094f864299e4a28bcaff44d023e1b32

  19. Paul says:

    Barr has screwed both Trump and himself with the smoke and mirrors bit.

  20. Proud Obamacon says:

    Jason with some really weak posts today .. come on sport, you can do better! LOL what a looosah

  21. jason says:

    One of ProudObamaCON’s sources is tanking… what a shame

    “Ever since Trump was cleared of collusion with the Russians and/or obstruction of justice, CNN hasn’t exactly had the best time. With few reasons for people to tune in anymore, the leftist cable news network has found itself in something like quicksand. The more it struggles the more it sinks.

    According to the Daily Caller, CNN has now hit a record low for the year, even with presidential town halls for Democrats being featured on the network:

    From April 8-12, the network only averaged an audience of 690,000 people and 180,000 in the key 25-54 age demographic. Their coverage last week included three presidential town halls with New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, Washington Gov. Jay Inslee and Former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Julián Castro.

    Gillibrand’s town hall only had 507,000 viewers, compared to Inslee’s 549,000 and Castro’s 654,000.

    Comparatively, last week, MSNBC’s prime time lineup averaged 1,600,000 viewers with 249,000 in the key demo. Fox News managed to beat CNN and MSNBC combined, with a total viewership of 2,438,000 and 394,000 in the age range.

    Not only does this not speak well for the network, it doesn’t speak well for many Democrats either, as the public has seemingly lost interest in what many of the candidates have to say.”

  22. jason says:

    Proud ObamaCON is most likely a blood sucking parasite that thinks he will get even more blood to suck in a Marxist society.

    Poor bastard doesn’t realize that he is too stupid to actually be part of the corrupt elite that rules in his socialist paradises, and will probably get less, not more, benefits.

  23. jason says:

    Barr has screwed both Trump and himself with the smoke and mirrors bit.”

    LOL

    You miss Eric Holder and Loretta Lynch, huh?

    Now there were some REALLY independent, non-partisan AGs….

  24. Proud Obamacon says:

    Jason, still weak bruh … Come on sport, give yourself a pep talk and let’s go! I get a Groper in Chief blow up doll for ya when you finally deliver a good post!

    LOL!!

  25. Paul says:

    Jason has his tail between his legs after the ass-kicking.

  26. NYCmike says:

    “Barr has screwed both Trump and himself with the smoke and mirrors bit.”

    “Jason has his tail between his legs after the ass-kicking.”

    -Statements like these make me think 2020 may turn out ok…..

  27. NYCmike says:

    But, let’s keep working, all of you conservative Republicans, a lot of work left to do!

    Don’t get cocky, kid!

  28. jason says:

    get a Groper in Chief blow up doll for ya”

    No thanks, you can give the Bill Clinton doll to Paul.

  29. jason says:

    ObamaCON is a more pathetic case than Amoral Scumbag.

    Amoral scumbag is still pining for Jeb, but ObamaCON is still pining for the Soviet Union.

    He has recurring nightmares about the Berlin Wall coming down.

  30. jason says:

    I am not a conservative Republican.

    Let me know when the Republican Party goes back to promoting free enterprise, free trade, limited government and personal responsibility.

  31. Proud Obamacon says:

    Weak – come on J, you need some new material bruhhh. How many times you gunna regurgitate the same $hit? ? ? ? Damn . my own fault, why do I expect more from a loooosah who thinks we should be living in 1830? ? ?

    LOL

  32. Proud Obamacon says:

    “No thanks, you can give the Bill Clinton doll to Paul.”

    Right, you already got your Orange blow up doll, did you order it from Trump TV with your Trump University degree? ? ? LOLLLL

  33. mnw says:

    Trump is trying to crack down on visa overstays– better 20 years late than never, I guess. He calls it “backdoor illegal immigration,” which is absolutely correct.

    If I were Trump, I would announce 2% RIFs (reduction in force) for ALL federal depts, both this year & next year. That could be accomplished through attrition & buyouts. Let the depts themselves decide how to absorb the cuts.

    I think federal RIFs would have astounding voter appeal.

  34. mnw says:

    P.S.

    Always remember, if you love the troll, feed the troll.

  35. Proud Obamacon says:

    But .. but.. the Wall! We need The Wall!! LOL

  36. Proud Obamacon says:

    Nice to see mnw back offering nothing as usual!

    #not.my.president

  37. NYCmike says:

    “Let me know when the Republican Party goes back to promoting free enterprise, free trade, limited government and personal responsibility.”

    -Judging by the bills and budgets signed by President Trump and the last Congress, and especially Senators who like to give thumbs-down hand gestures, we have a LOT OF WORK ahead of us.

    Unfortunately, the other major political party is too busy trying to ban skyscrapers and plastic bags.

  38. Proud Obamacon says:

    As for CNN. I haven’t watched CNN or any news channel in years. You do know that the only people watching cable news are old folk.. just pointing out the obvious to a low IQ Loosah who thinks cable news rating mean something LOL.

  39. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It appears the Mueller Report is off the front page, and is now becoming history. Your beginning to see the sense of demoralization and despair developing among Democrats. Making it worse is it appears none of the 19 or so Democratic candidates seem to excite the Democratic electorate.

  40. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @RepMarkMeadows
    “Think about this: we had a President under a constant 2 year investigation for a fabricated collusion conspiracy, and yet America is still seeing a record economy, +3% growth, a soaring job market, and the lowest unemployment in half a century. @realDonaldTrump delivering anyway.”

  41. Proud Obamacon says:

    Enjoy it while it lasts, suckah! We all know what happens to economies under ReTHUGlican presidents. Seen this story before!!

  42. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Great article by Victor Davis Hanson on the Mueller investigation fiasco:

    “For some 674 days, Donald Trump was under a cloud of a special investigator, prying into all aspects of his personal and private life, as well as the lives of his family and aides. Or to put it another way, for 83 percent of Trump’s first term, constant media announcements have blared about the “bombshell” to come as “the noose is tightening” and “the walls are closing in” — all as inaccurate as they were damaging to the efficacy of the administration.”

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/03/trump-russia-investigation-mueller-report/?fbclid=IwAR3-bkvQoR-QBQplTnH671CszscaJbckvCm9dnZP23qT0AoiqSKZJHOwdhc

  43. jason says:

    expect more from a loooosah who thinks we should be living in 1830? ? ”

    LOL, a Marxist turd distraught over the end of the Soviet Union is accusing me of living in 1830?

    Zzzzzzz….

    Poor bastard only has Venezuela, Cuba and North Korea as shining examples of socialist paradise but thinks he is a a “progressive”.

  44. Proud Obamacon says:

    This is Jason’s hero: “Alleged commander of militia reportedly said group was training to assassinate Clinton, Obama”

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/alleged-commander-militia-group-detained-185842942.html

    SICK!

  45. jason says:

    Proud ObamaCON thinks Marxism is “modern”.

    I love it.

  46. Proud Obamacon says:

    Jason a total buffoon who wishes we can all turn the clock back to 1830 and enjoy life on plantatations , aint that right sah!

  47. sandiegocitizen says:

    34. Agree.

    No point to responding to background noise.

  48. jason says:

    I can’t think of two more irrelevant politicians than Obama and Clinton.

    Of course, ObamaCON’s heroes are Maduro and Raul Castro.

  49. jason says:

    It’s obvious ObamaCON knows nothing of my background….

  50. Proud Obamacon says:

    Yup.. just background noise yall. “Patriots” wanted to assassinate Clinton and Obama? just noise…

    Orange trampling all over the Constitution? Just noise…

    Putin making us his b*tch, just background noise right?

    World laughing at us, just noise

  51. Proud Obamacon says:

    Jason’s response to an article about the Militia guy wanted to assassinate Obama and Clinton is “…irrelevant politicians … Obama and Clinton…”

    Woww

    I know we go at it but I figured he could at least his this softball. I overestimated. Jason has officially gone from Looosah to Looooooosah!

  52. jason says:

    ObamaCON’s hero Stalin killed what, 60+ million, but he is worried about some moron “militia leader”.

  53. Proud Obamacon says:

    Of course, Jason’s heroes are David Duke and Richard Spencer.

  54. jason says:

    Right, I doubt anyone is really interested in assassinating irrelevant politicians like Obama and Clinton.

    I am more worried about the people dying of hunger in your socialist paradise of Venezuela.

  55. Proud Obamacon says:

    Jason is supposedly worried about hungry people in Venezuela while proudly supporting policies that take healthcare away from millions of Americans.. hmmm

  56. jason says:

    Did you complain when Obama trampled all over the Constitution for 8 years?

    You don’t care about the Constitution, you are just a little brainwashed apparatchik turd who thinks your life as a bloodsucking parasite will get better in a police state.

  57. Proud Obamacon says:

    Jason logic: Obama trampled all over the Constitution, bad very bad! Trump tramples all over the Constitution, GREAT MAGA!!!!!!

    uh .. say wha?

    LOL complete FOOL

  58. Proud Obamacon says:

    So basically according to Jason, trampling all over the Constitution is ay-okay as long as it’s his guy doing it. So that means he really has no respect for the Constitution. He just wants his guy to do whatever he wants .. hmmmmmmmm

  59. jason says:

    hile proudly supporting policies that take healthcare away from millions of Americans..”

    Ah yes, how did “your premiums will go down and you can keep your own doctor” lie work out for you.

    But hey, let’s adopt socialized medicine…

    “In every major health indicator, the Soviet Union lags behind the United States. Life expectancy in the Soviet Union is five years shorter at birth and nearly two years shorter at age sixty-five. This difference is partially due to the Soviet Union’s high infant mortality rate: 25.1 deaths per thousand live births in the Soviet Union, compared with 10.4 in the United States. The Soviet maternal mortality rate is over six times the U.S. rate, indicating problems with quality of care in maternity hospitals.

    The overall age-adjusted death rate in the Soviet Union is 1,160 deaths per 100,000 population, compared with 821 deaths in the United States ( Soviet citizens are more likely to die from most major diseases than their American counterparts and are twice as likely to die from infectious and circulatory diseases, injury, and poisoning. Death rates for circulatory diseases are especially high, with the Soviet cerebrovascular mortality rate of 229 deaths per 100,000 population over four times the U.S. rate. Within the Soviet population, death rates for men substantially exceed those for women for most categories of disease. “

  60. jason says:

    At least ObamaCON is honest, he just admitted Obama trampled all over the Constitution for 8 years.

    His point is that it would not be ok if Trump did the same thing.

    The difference is I never said, or thought, the Trump is violating the Constitution.

  61. Proud Obamacon says:

    I will give Jason the moron credit for one thing. He has spent a lot of time and energy building up this strawman about me loving Stalin or Venezuela or whatever. This way, he doesn’t have to get into an actual debate with me which he will of course … Lose. Because he is a Looosah!

  62. Proud Obamacon says:

    And where did I saw Obama violated the Constitution. I said that the was part of your premise. Reading is not your strong suit, I get it. I’ll try to keep it simple next time, sport!

  63. Proud Obamacon says:

    And you were saying it was OK for Trump to do what he’s doing because Obama did the same thing. So you need to decide what the hell you are talking about .. Nice try backtracking though LOL

  64. jason says:

    I also thank ObamaCON for elevating me to Southern gentry status and “plantation owner”.

    I guess my erudite posts have masked my humble beginnings.

  65. jason says:

    And you were saying it was OK for Trump to do what he’s doing because Obama did the same thing. ”

    Your hatred for America is poisoning your little brain.

    I said Obama trampled all over the Constitution for 8 years and you were fine with it.

    I think Trump is respecting the Constitution just fine.

    GFY.

  66. Proud Obamacon says:

    “my erudite posts”

    uhhh looks like Jason’s gone full delusional now LOL

    Sorry to whoop your butt tonight. I’ll try to take it easy on you next time LOL

  67. Proud Obamacon says:

    Wrong. I said Trump was trampling on the Constitution. You said it was ok because Obama did the same thing.

    Just own what you said, bruh. The truth is refreshing for a change.

    I know yall MAGA freaks don’t care a lick about the Constitution. You just want your guy in power doing whatever he wants. That’s cool, we shall remember everything you were cool with once we are in power. Just yall wait. LOL

  68. jason says:

    is way, he doesn’t have to get into an actual debate with me which he will of course …”

    LOL

    Debate?

    A brainwashed moron whose only argument is socialism good free enterprise bad?

    Really?

    I bet you haven’t had an original idea your whole life. You read and repeat propaganda, that’s it.

    You couldn’t debate at a 4th grade level.

  69. jason says:

    Here is what I said, I never said anything about Trump trampling the Constitution.

    “Did you complain when Obama trampled all over the Constitution for 8 years?

    You don’t care about the Constitution, you are just a little brainwashed apparatchik turd who thinks your life as a bloodsucking parasite will get better in a police state”

  70. Proud Obamacon says:

    More strawman $hit from Jason. He doesn’t know me or my background, he’s just made up stuff about me so he can feel good attacking the fake me and avoiding actual debate. Smart move actually, since he has no chance in a real debate.

    Go on, continue debating the strawman. Must do wonders for your self esteem and confidence when you can debate someone who only exists in your imagination. Eww, does this mean Jason dreams about me? Nasty

  71. jason says:

    The point being, I know you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer, that why are you complaining about Trump supposedly violating the Constitution if you were perfectly ok with Obama doing it.

    I know, the ends justify the means.

  72. jason says:

    He doesn’t know me”

    Oh, I know you, bloodsucking parasites like you are a dime a dozen.

    I almost wish the socialists did take over just to see you treated like garbage.

    You are afraid of a merit based society and think you would be special in a Marxist society.

    You wouldn’t.

  73. Proud Obamacon says:

    And now you’re repeating yourself. What’s that strategy your hero uses, something about if you lie enough times, what happens?

    MAGA baby! LOL

  74. Proud Obamacon says:

    LOL Jason seems worried that his guy is gonna get blown out in 2020.

  75. Proud Obamacon says:

    Jason has fully consumed Putin’s talking points.. good dog!

  76. jason says:

    I wasn’t born or raised in the US, but I am very grateful for the opportunities provided me that allowed me to be successful.

    You, on the other hand, probably had all the advantages that I never had, and yet you hate your country and blame society for the fact you are a failure.

    I certainly know you.

  77. jason says:

    LOL Jason seems worried that his guy is gonna get blown out in 2020.”

    Heh, I didn’t even vote for “my guy”.

    I am certainly voting for him in 2020.

    Let’s see which of the socialists blows him out.

    In 2016 you were positive Hillary was going to blow him out.

    And you seem like the kind of guy that is almost always wrong, so…..

  78. Proud Obamacon says:

    “you hate your country and blame society for the fact you are a failure.”

    Same ole same ole.. la la la la

  79. jason says:

    Weren’t you the one berating your fellow Dem Big Joe who wasn’t buying your crap that the Marxist was going to win the GA governorship?

    How did that turn out for you?

    Oh wait, I just remembered, she still thinks she “won”

  80. Proud Obamacon says:

    She barely lost in a R+10 state where your guy running also happened to be Sec of State who personally disallowed 130,000 voter registrations from largely AA areas.

    As for the fake Dem Big Joe. Yall know he aint no Dem. He just plays one on HHR. He may say some Dem things yet magically on election day, he finds a reason to vote ReTHUG! Just like LisaB who somehow always votes RePUG! Hmmmmm hmmmmm

  81. jason says:

    “you hate your country and blame society for the fact you are a failure.”

    Same ole same ole.. la la la la”

    Truth hurts, huh?

    Hey maybe the neighborhood Kommittee will be shorthanded and will assign you to spy on your neighbors and recommend people for re-education camps.

    From your posts, it’s something you could do, although you would probably be an abject failure at that too.

  82. jason says:

    She barely lost”

    LOL, is that like barely pregnant?

    You said she was going to win.

    And Big Joe has been here for years, he is a Dem.

    The difference is that he doesn’t seem to be addicted to talking points.

  83. Proud Obamacon says:

    Again, you know nothing about me, you just assume that anyone left of center must be a Stalin loving failure who fantasizes about Venezuela. I get it, its a defense mechanism so you don’t have to get into a real debate.

    It also means you’re a … LOOOOOSAH.. LOL

  84. Proud Obamacon says:

    “he doesn’t seem to be addicted to talking points”

    You could take a lesson from BJ then and not repeat the same drivel fed to you by the Russian bots. LOL

  85. jason says:

    ho personally disallowed 130,000 voter registrations from largely AA areas.”

    Too bad all those dead people couldn’t vote, huh?

    Too bad felons couldn’t vote, huh?

    Too bad fake registrations weren’t allowed huh?

    Too bad people with 2 registrations couldn’t vote twice, huh?

    Too bad people who didn’t exist couldn’t vote, huh?

    Too bad illegals, couldn’t vote, huh?

  86. jason says:

    left of center”

    LOL

    Sounds like Corey describing Hillary Clinton as a “pragmatist”.

  87. Proud Obamacon says:

    Again, you post Putin’s talking points and miss the real point.

    Tens of thousands of voter registrations were thrown out using some “exact match” requirements like matching every hyphen and dot. Oh, and of course this all took place in predominantly AA areas exactly where Abrams had set up outreach to get low participating Americans to take part in the Democratic process. Oh right, you don’t believe in Democracy .. it’s win at all costs for you and if that mean disenfranchising Americans, MAGA!

  88. Proud Obamacon says:

    And all this took place under the watch of the Sec of State who also happened to be benefiting from his voter suppression. The only way yall win is if you suppress the vote. How Democratic of you! Hell, why even vote at all? ? ? LOL

  89. Proud Obamacon says:

    Then Big Joe’s beloved Sec of State complained that too many people were voting. He then accused the Democrats of trying to hack into the state’s voter registration system with no evidence (still no evidence provided BTW).. all dirty politics and you are perfectly ok with it.

    Voter disenfranchisement, lies, all good in Jason’s MAGA world.

  90. Proud Obamacon says:

    Looks like Jason is off to cry to mommy, sorry for having to open up the can of whoop-ass on you. Maybe you can make yourself feel better by pleasuring yourself with your orange blow up doll with a combover … NASTY!

    Bring better game tomorrow, yall. PEACE !

  91. lisab says:

    “In every major health indicator, the Soviet Union lags behind the United States. Life expectancy in the Soviet Union is five years shorter at birth and nearly two years shorter at age sixty-five.
    ———————————————-

    i actually have experienced soviet healthcare.

    i visited the ussr in the late 1980’s and sprained my ankle playing ultimate frisbee in odessa. because of my prior experience with ballet, my ankle is almost permanently sprained anyway … so they took me to the hospital.

    it was what you probably imagine … no shiny clean corridors … just people with machinery sticking out of their arms and legs lying in the corridors ….

    they did give me an xray … i still glow at night, but that just means i don’t need a night light.

    all in all, i would rate ussr hospitals in the late 1980’s as about the same as a usa hospital in the early 1960’s. just a guess.

    as far as why the soviet men died so young? they smoked like fiends and drank cheap vodka. the rule was, once a bottle was opened you finish it.

    soooooooo … i would say the ussr health care was ok … but preventive medicine, e.g. healthy lifestyles, good diets, daily exercise, was lacking.

    if you smoke 2 packs of cigarettes and drink a bottle of vodka a day, a hospital won’t save you.

  92. lisab says:

    i would also say the reason the ussr collapsed was that the number of “true believers” or what we would call patriots dropped to very few.

    in the past, few people knew what the lifestyle was in the west, and they had parents and grandparents who had fought the germans, so by comparison life was good to ww2.

    but by the late 1980’s people began to know what the lifestyle in the west was like, and the number of people from the ww2 generation had diminished

    so they fell apart

  93. lisab says:

    without a patriotic citizenry, if the police/army are not willing to shoot their own people … you cannot have marxism. thus yeltsin won

  94. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    jason
    Maybe PO and Paul should look at this just-released Economist/YouGov Poll. The President’s approval/disapproval rating for the past two(2) days with registered voters is 46/52,respectively(see Question 2) and 45/48 with All Adults.

    Polls, as usual, are all over the place.

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/r58jz3khru/tabs_Trump_Tweets_20190421.pdf

  95. Bitterlaw says:

    https://pagesix.com/2019/04/22/half-of-playboy-clubs-bunny-staff-fired-over-poor-service/?_ga=2.35450660.486983778.1556016268-1813965811.1556016268

    They could not find enough quality waitresses? I went to a Hooters once. The waitresses there managed to bring food and drinks. Maybe the ears throw the Bunnies off.

  96. Chicon says:

    So, did Jason steal one of PO’s llamas?

  97. Bitterlaw says:

    I blame Transparent Dem Troll for the antics of Messy and PO. We used to have quality trolls here. TDT just never fought for us once the budget cuts hit.

  98. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag’s favorite attorney in more trouble.

    The embattled attorney became even more embattled over the weekend when the L.A. Times reported that he took a significant portion of a $3 million settlement that was meant for one of his clients, Alexis Gardner, from her ex-boyfriend, Hassan Whiteside.

    Avenatti was entitled to $1 million of the $3 million settlement to cover legal fees. To meet the terms of the deal, Whiteside wired Avenatti the first payment of $2.75 million, which Avenatti was then supposed to pass on to Gardner. However, the settlement never made it to her. Prosecutors allege that Avenatti hid the payment and took $2.75 million to buy a share of a private jet.

    Gardner isn’t the only client from whom Avenatti is accused of embezzling. He’s also accused of stealing settlement money from a makeup artist with a large YouTube following and a mentally ill paraplegic.

    Avenatti responded to the L.A. Times on Sunday via email, saying that he’s looking forward to all the facts coming out at trial. He also said that “the clients complaining are a very small fraction of the thousands of clients I have serviced over my nearly 20-year career.”

    Only a small fraction of Avenatti’s clients are complaining, let me guess, the ones with big settlements?

    And Bitter should be able to weigh in on this, if you only steal from a small fraction of your clients, is it ok?

  99. jason says:

    Big Joe will be happy to know he is a “fake Democrat”….

  100. Bitterlaw says:

    c

  101. jason says:

    Tens of thousands of voter registrations were thrown out using some “exact match” requirements”

    Horrors.

    Let’s see, what other documents do you need an “exact match”…. birth certificates, social security cards, passports, bank accounts, driver’s licenses….

    If you are required to have your correct name on your birth certificate is that “birth suppression”. Passports? Travel suppression?

    Personally, I don’t think there is anything more Democratic than ensuring only those who are eligible can vote.

    ObamaCON’s notion that it is “Democratic” to allow those who are not eligible to vote is not “Democratic” at all.

  102. Bitterlaw says:

    I remember that on the first day of our legal ethics class, the professor said that the fastest way to be disbarred is to take client’s funds. If there is ever any doubt on whether it is your money or the client’s money, give it to the client.

  103. jason says:

    ‘Just like LisaB who somehow always votes RePUG!”

    Sorry, lisab, but your secret is out.

  104. jason says:

    Well Avenatti will probably claim he never had any doubt it was his money…

    And in any case there was a charitable motive, he was helping a private jet dealer who was really struggling to meet his quota.

  105. jason says:

    Looking over the thread to see what other idiocies ObamaCON troll said after I left… sometimes I really outdo myself…

    “You don’t care about the Constitution, you are just a little brainwashed apparatchik turd who thinks your life as a bloodsucking parasite will get better in a police state”

  106. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    There is a major hearing today at the Supreme Court which could affect redistricting next decade. To wit: SCOTUS will hear arguments as to whether a citizenship question should be added to the next Census questionnaire.
    Two District Court Judges, both appointed by Democrats, have said no mostly for administrative reasons.
    This seems like a no brainer to me in favor of the question being added.
    What say you?

    https://video.foxnews.com/v/6029010437001/#sp=show-clips

  107. jason says:

    Not bad for a non-native speaker (jason pats himself on back since nobody else will praise his eloquence).

  108. jason says:

    What is the problem with asking the citizenship question exactly?

    If you can’t ask questions, why do a census anyway?

    Will it be ok to ask the sex and age of the respondents, or is that sexist and discriminatory too?

    Income? Race? Educational level?

    Is asking how many bathrooms in the house, is that discriminatory against those with only one bathroom?

  109. mnw says:

    Jonathan Turley, no conservative he, has a good legal analysis of the intent requirement in the federal obstruction statute. The article is at The Hill.

    I commented yesterday that what Nadler said about this sounded to me like gibberish– the offhand comments of somebody who wasn’t familiar with the statute– Nadler stated that the intent requirement had been met because Trump “intended to do something wrong, and that’s obstruction right there.”

    Turley makes the obvious legal point that obstruction requires proof of CRIMINAL intent, i.e., that Trump acted “corruptly.”

    The only time I ever saw the word “corruptly” standing alone is in the obstruction statute. It’s an odd choice of words, but dozens of federal courts have construed “corruptly” in the obstruction stt to mean “with criminal intent.”

    Turley is a fine legal scholar, altho a lib political player. Nadler is just stunningly legally illiterate– & doesn’t seem to care if lawyers notice it.

  110. jason says:

    From one of Proud Obamacon’s heroes to another?

    “Venezuela’s president Nicolas Maduro sent his birthday wishes to Vladimir Lenin on Monday, the long deceased leader of Communist Russia.”

    I hope he won’t be crushed if Lenin doesn’t thank him.

  111. jason says:

    Comments from “another era”.

    “The article from The Morning News, a Wilmington, Delaware-based paper no longer in circulation, covered a September 24, 1973, meeting Biden held with members of the North Star Civic Association. One of the members, a gay-rights activist, asked Biden questions on job discrimination at the U.S. Civil Service and in the military.

    Biden’s “gut reaction” on the issue was that homosexuals were “security threats,” he said.

    “My gut reaction is that they (homosexuals) are security risks,” Biden is quoted as saying.

  112. Paul says:

    109: The question as I understand it being stated is: “Is all people in your household a US citizen?” Yes or No

    Many recent immigrants will have people in their household who are in various stages of being naturalized. But the question is presented in a way that someone might not want to submit the form for fear of having their household unfairly receiving extra scrutiny. And so recent immigrants will not be counted.

  113. mnw says:

    RAS 49/49 & -5.

    So it appears we may have reverted to mean, after the hiccup.

  114. DW says:

    “My gut reaction is that they (homosexuals) are security risks,” Biden is quoted as saying.

    This from the same guy who said that Obama was a ‘clean’ black.

  115. jason says:

    Whoops…

    ‘I ain’t ever seen the dude’ – residents of South Bend’s poor neighborhoods say Democratic presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg left them behind”

  116. jason says:

    “The question as I understand it being stated is: “Is all people in your household a US citizen?”

    One question we have answered is that we don’t want Paul writing the census questions….

  117. jason says:

    “any recent immigrants will have people in their household who are in various stages of being naturalized.”

    Huh, Paul, this may be news to you but there is no such thing as “almost a citizen”.

    “Various stages of being naturalized” means no, you are not a citizen.

    So the right answer is “no”, and then probably the follow up question is “who is not a citizen”.

    Everyone will still be counted.

  118. jason says:

    This from the same guy who said that Obama was a ‘clean’ black.

    I think he said negro, actually.

    and

    “You cannot go to a 7-11 or Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian Accent.”

  119. Paul says:

    119: I agree with you that it is perfectly fine to be a legal resident non-citizen. However, some may feel that they will get unfair scrutiny by answering the question and so will fail to fill out the census entirely.

  120. mnw says:

    Paultroll

    Say something really, really stupid, please– so we’ll know it’s actually you.

  121. Paul says:

    Biden has such a beautifully evolving gut.

  122. Paul says:

    Biden has been a caterpillar for nearly a century, now for this election season he will finally transform into a butterfly.

    How about that, mnw?

  123. jason says:

    However, some may feel that they will get unfair scrutiny by answering the question and so will fail to fill out the census entirely.”

    Zzzzzz…

    Some people refuse to answer census questions completely for a variety of reasons.

    It’s still not a reason not to have a census and not to ask the questions required.

    It would seem that knowing how many non-citizens thare are is a valid statistic for a census.

    Why don’t you GFY?

  124. Paul says:

    Jason is just a little weenie who is frightened of losing it all.

  125. Paul says:

    when the revolution comes.

  126. jason says:

    Thare?

    Yeah, we want to know how many rednecks up in thare hills too.

    And barrhhs too.

  127. jason says:

    I hope the Central Kommittee will only make me give one llama to people who don’t have llamas and let me keep one.

  128. jason says:

    “I agree with you that it is perfectly fine to be a legal resident non-citizen.”

    I said it was perfectly fine to be a legal resident non-citizen?

    I guess it’s one of the many things I agree with that I never said.

    What I said was that I think its legitimate for the census to ask how many citizens and/or non-citizens there are in a household.

    You are wasting time when you should GFY.

  129. jason says:

    Paultroll

    Say something really, really stupid,?

    I think this is an unfair burden.

    Everything he says is really stupid, but forcing himself to go beyond his normal stupidity level to really, really stupid is disrespectful in my opinion.

  130. Paul says:

    I agree with Jason that Trump is likely to lose in 2020, but I think the democrats are giving him a fighting chance.

  131. jason says:

    Because I think Obamacare sucks and a huge politically motivated fraud perpetrated on the American people, guess what?

    “Jason is supposedly worried about hungry people in Venezuela while proudly supporting policies that take healthcare away from millions of Americans..”

    I want to take health care away from millions of Americans.

    Meanwhile, in his socialist paradise of Venezuela …one bottle is shared by 30 babies..

    “The economic and political crises of Venezuela are exacerbating an aemergency. The public healthcare sector has all but collapsed: Venezuelan hospitals are suffering from shortages of basic supplies – from gloves and medicine to electricity and running water.

    One doctor showed Anelise exactly how much the Venezuelan public health sector was in need. Jose (real name withheld to protect his identity) told her the shortage is ‘from the most basic items, gauze, gloves, serum, all the way through bigger items… For example, antibiotics are not always available. So if a patient needs a determined medicine, and if it’s not available here, you have to ask the patient to go looking for it. And maybe he won’t be able to find it so we’ll have to give him something else that’s not appropriate… and maybe this medicine will also run out… and so we often run out of the most basic things…

    “Some 35 babies died here between November and December. There wasn’t enough medicine. The hospital doesn’t have baby formula.” Jose explained. “There aren’t enough bottles and so the same bottle is shared between 30 babies… “

  132. jason says:

    I agree with Jason that Trump is likely to lose in 2020, but I think the democrats are giving him a fighting chance.”

    I agree with what Paul troll thinks I agree on.

  133. Big Joe says:

    Hey Proud!

    Big Joe

  134. Big Joe says:

    Proud, I always appreciate you name dropping me but bro, you really made up some wacky shizz.

    Big Joe

  135. Big Joe says:

    Entertaining stuff so far and I’m only half way through. Let me get through some meetings this afternoon and I’ll see if I have time to respond. Rock on!

    Big Joe

  136. lisab says:

    i actually have a mixed record of voting at the presidential level.

    the republican i voted for was romney.

  137. lisab says:

    Bernie Sanders says felons, even Boston Marathon bomber, should have right to vote in prison

  138. lisab says:

    Kamala Harris open to Bernie Sanders Boston Marathon bomber vote from prison idea

  139. lisab says:

    SHOCK POLL: Trump, GOP down 35 points with Boston Marathon bombers, other domestic terrorists

  140. lisab says:

    Republican lawmakers want to make child drag shows illegal

    Republican lawmakers in Ohio have filed a bill that would clamp down on drag performances by minors as “child exploitation.”
    Ohio representative Tim Schaffer has proposed a bill in the state legislature seeking to clamp down on performances by “a child under eighteen years of age or a mentally or physically handicapped child under twenty-one years of age,” in a response to a performance by a nine-year-old drag queen.
    ?
    Offenders could face up to six months in prison and a $1000 fine, while violations of the law could lead to venues being stripped of their liquor licenses.