Biden Lead Trump in TX

Emerson College has put out a poll showing Donald Trump behind Joe Biden in a potential 2020 General Election in the state of Texas.

Joe Biden 23%
Beto O’Rourke 22%
Bernie Sanders 17%
Pete Buttigieg 8%
Elizabeth Warren 7%
Julian Castro 4%
Andrew Yang 3%
Kamala Harris 3%
Amy Klobuchar 3%
John Delaney 1%
Cory Booker 1%
John Hickenlooper 1%
Mike Gravel 1%
Kirsten Gillibrabd 1%
Tim Ryan 0%
Wayne Messam 0%
Marianne Williamson 0%
Eric Swalwell 0%
Seth Moulton 0%
Jay Inslee 0%
Tulsi Gabbard 0%

Joe Biden (D) 50%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 49%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 50%
Beto O’Rourke (D) 50%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 51%
Bernie Sanders (D) 49%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 53%
Elizabeth Warren (D) 47%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 54%
Kamala Harris (D) 46%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 54%
Pete Buttigieg (D) 46%

US Senate – TEXAS (Emerson)
John Cornyn (R-inc) 29%
MJ Hegar (D) 12%

Not sure why they push people to get the presidential race to add up to 100%, yet in the US Senate race they do the opposite and include so many undecided voters. This poll was done April 25-28 among 799 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 12:56 pm
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141 Responses to “Biden Lead Trump in TX”

  1. Tgca says:

    Dos Bebe! Dos!

  2. VictrC says:


    Look, if Robert Francis (fake Beto) couldn’t beat Cruz here in Texas, none of these candidates will beat Trump here. They are dreaming.

    Trump is far more popular here than he was in 2016, and the D’s got their maximum effort out for the midterm when lots of R stayed home (turned off a bit by Ted). Trump beats Biden by 7 here and the rest by double digits (the Beto aura has faded).

  3. Wes says:

    Wait, wait, wait, Vic.

    Mikey said Cruz was not an unlikable candidate but an evil genius for putting his seat at risk and making Republicans spend tons of money they could have used in WV, MT, and AZ last year to save him from defeat.

    Of course making Republicans decide to sit home because Cruz is about as personable as Roy Moore cost the GOP two seats in the TXCD, but that’s another story.

  4. Wes says:

    Heh. Tgca thinks we’re jealous of his rabbit food-based diet.

    How quaint.

  5. lisab says:

    However, during my unsuccessful Google search for the Playboy screen captures, I DID find full-frontal nude photos of Connors

    no one wants to see that … i’ll stick to

  6. VictrC says:


    Cruz is not likable, even in Texas his attitude doesn’t play. If Robert Francis had run against someone like Abbott he would have lost be 10%.

    The upshot is that it gave the Dems this fantasy that they will win Texas this cycle. What happened in 2018 was the perfect storm, and they still didn’t win, BUT it woke up a lot of Conservatives who didn’t vote. They won’t make 2020 like 2018.

    BTW….I thought this thread was a Connors free zone!!!!!

  7. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    7. “BTW….I thought this thread was a Connors free zone!!!!!”

    So declared.

  8. mnw says:

    6 Lisab

    That’s how you started the whole thing last night!

  9. lisab says:

    jimmy connors was an excellent tennis player …

  10. mnw says:

    Why did Stacey Abrams announce she would not run against Sen. David Perdue?

    Because she knows she would get her adz kicked, & 2 high profile losses in a row would likely be the end of her political career.

    She couldn’t win an open seat for governor in an off-year election. What chance would she have against an incumbent U.S. Senator in a year that is likely to have much higher turnout?

    GA Senate is even more of a DEM pipe dream than “turning Texas blue.”

  11. NYCmike says:

    -Came upon this somehow……I guess not everybody thought that Ryan was terrible against Biden back in 2012.

  12. mnw says:


    I was thinking the Canes would be a handful. The next one is a must win.

  13. jason says:


    Of course, anyone can allege anything against anybody, if it’s this guy’s word against Mayor Butt’s I will certainly give him the benefit of the doubt.

    “My name is Hunter Kelly. I am 21 years old. This is by far the hardest thing I have ever had to do. For the past three nights, I have not slept even a single hour. I have vomited eight times.

    I was sexually assaulted by Mayor Pete Buttigieg. I didn’t know who he was back in February, only that he told me he was an important politician. When I started seeing him on television three weeks ago as a Presidential candidate, I thought about coming forward.

    I am a gay man. I have been grappling with my identity for a number of years. I live, work, and attend college in rural Michigan. I know that by coming forward, I will make a hard life even harder. But I must do so?—?I must do so?—?for my country, for other gay men like me, and most importantly to stop a very bad man from becoming President of the United States.”

  14. lisab says:

    rosenstein is gone

  15. jason says:

    Intuitively, you would say a guy running for President is not going to be sexually assaulting anyone in February, if that is when the alleged attack occurred.

  16. jason says:

    Sad. What did he die of?

  17. dblaikie says:

    After reading the posts of the thread I only have one thing to say — I don’t care about Chuck Connors.

  18. jason says:

    jimmy connors was an excellent tennis player …”

    mnw to compare him to Michael Jackson in 3, 2, 1…

  19. lisab says:

    I don’t care about Chuck Connors.

    he had nothing but nice things to say about you

  20. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It is amazing how many millennials now seem obsessed with the sexual peccadilloes of 1960’s Hollywood actors/actresses. At the same time, sexual activity among millennials is falling — a recent headline of a news article was: “No sex please, we’re Millennial”.” Falling male testosterone rates may be a factor.

  21. jason says:

    I don’t either. I never watched any of his TV shows or movies.

    I just don’t like character assassination based on BS.

  22. jason says:

    he had nothing but nice things to say about you”

    dblaikie and Chuck Connors were an item?

    Is nothing sacred?

  23. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    14. “My name is Hunter Kelly. I am 21 years old. This is by far the hardest thing I have ever had to do. For the past three nights, I have not slept even a single hour. I have vomited eight times.

    I was sexually assaulted by Mayor Pete Buttigieg”

    Oh please. Your a 21 year old male, and Mayor Pete was able to sexually assault you? Have you looked at Mayor Pete? He couldn’t overpower a teddy bear.

  24. lisab says:

    Falling male testosterone rates may be a factor.

    and the fact that most millenial men are undatable.

    what percent of millenial men could change a tire, or build a fire without looking on youtube first

    they are MOSTLY too wimpy, out of shape, video gaming, pasty faced momma’s boys.

    when i was young, men would take their sons outside and play catch … now they play video games

    sad really

  25. lisab says:

    sexual assault could be the mayor just grabbing the hunter’s crotch

    it does not necessarily mean he was raped

  26. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    7. “BTW….I thought this thread was a Connors free zone!!!!!”

    Given the direction this thread is going; my suggestion is you give it a pass, wait until the next thread.

  27. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    25. “what percent of millenial men could change a tire, or build a fire without looking on youtube first. they are MOSTLY too wimpy, out of shape, video gaming, pasty faced momma’s boys.”

    Oh how could you say that lisab before we located a safe space where millennial could have fled to for shelter from your macro-aggressive comments.

  28. jason says:

    Right, remember, trying to kiss someone is sexual assault even if no kiss happens. Trump “tried to kiss a woman at a campaign rally”, that was sexual assault.

  29. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Hunter kid looks like a real dork. No wonder millennials are abstaining from sex. But he will share his story over the “coming weeks.” When does Gloria Allred come into the picture?

  30. NYCmike says:

    “I was thinking the Canes would be a handful. The next one is a must win.”

    -Yup. Hoping the backup goalie shows why he was a backup…….is the starter out the next game?……sometimes you need a break here or there to get by……

  31. mnw says:

    I’m done on you-know-who. I said what I had to say.

  32. mnw says:


    I dunno about the Canes’ goalie. I used to subscribe to The Hockey News, but I cancelled ’cause I never got around to reading it.

  33. NYCmike says:


    I was definitely more confident against the Penguins, as their defense and goaltending had been less than exemplary all year. The Canes really kicked it up a notch. They were close to last place in the whole league the first quarter of the season, and then something clicked. It will be tough to comeback.

    Good luck to the Bluezzzzz!

  34. lisab says:

    hunter will get little or no press unless this is a biden or sanders hit.

    a.) it is against a dem, so the press will not slam buttigieg unless biden or sanders tells them to

    2.) there is a cultural presumption that men cannot be sexually assaulted


    iii.) it is a guy assaulted by a guy, so no way this gets any press unless buttigieg is a priest

    i am not saying it is right, but compare hunter’s coverage to the kavanaugh coverage

  35. mnw says:


    The Bluezzzz! played so awful in Game 2 that I’m uneasy about their chances in the series now. Coach Berube shuffled the top line after the game AND the defensemen pairings, so he didn’t like what he saw either, apparently.

  36. Tina says:

    I think Redactstein is a nationalist. He used make America great.

    Cnn to cover at 10 pm.

  37. dblaikie says:

    Jason, my hero was Hoss on Bonanza.

  38. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    35. “hunter will get little or no press unless this is a biden or sanders hit.”

    It is interesting that the issue of Beto potentially fleeing a DUI arrest came up again; followed not that long after by a sexual misconduct allegation about Mayor Pete. Some Democratic operatives may be trying to weed out some of the lesser know candidates.

  39. jason says:

    I am sure mnw has some character assassination explanation for the reason Hoss died at 43.

  40. Tgca says:

    5. Dearest Wes

    Straight men do not use the word quaint.

  41. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    40. Yes, but lisab will know about the secret film.

  42. Tgca says:

    Ok since everyone here is sooooooo interested in my fabulous diet (see last thread 432) tonight I was very low key and simple. Beyond Meat burger with melted white cheddar cheese…no bun, and a side of artichokes smothered in a Alfredo sauce garnished with fresh black pepper and oregano. Yummeeeeeeee!

    Now eat your heart you jealous b*tches.

  43. NYCmike says:

    -Ok, it is from Huckabee, but I would like to believe it is true.

    And I also think that this sort of retribution is needed, and can be going on while President Trump campaigns on an economy that is doing pretty good.

  44. jason says:

    Trump to meet Pelosi, Schumer to discuss $1 trillion “infrastructure” plan.

    NYC to claim this is actually a good idea in 3, 2, 1….

  45. jason says:

    House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and other lawmakers are set to meet with President Trump at the White House on Tuesday to talk about infrastructure.

    Since Democratic lawmakers took control of the House in January, both parties have pointed to infrastructure as an issue on which a divided Congress could find common ground.

    “This bipartisanship is a reflection of the American people’s recognition of the need to rebuild our infrastructure to promote commerce, create jobs, advance public health with clean air and clean water, and make our transportation systems safer — indeed, to improve the quality of life of all Americans,” said Pelosi and Schumer in a letter to the president.”

    When it comes to pork spending and special interests, the Dems love “bipartisanship”.

    It will be interesting to see what NYC says of Trump joining with Schumer and Pelosi to throw a trillion dollars down a rathole, after labeling Rubio a traitor just for shaking hands with Schumer.

  46. jason says:

    Calling a fake burger “beyond meat” is truly hilarious.

    Let’s see, are compressed kale strips “beyond bacon”?

    I mean, when you go fake with food, there is no limit on how fake you can get.

  47. Tgca says:

    I think it’s great that finally the Dems will get together with Trump on infrastructure, an area of common need.

    This includes building the wall, right?

  48. Tgca says:

    It won’t be so fake when I punch you upside your fat head you PABMF!

  49. NYCmike says:


    The fact that you don’t see the difference between an immigration bill, which once signed into law will stay that way for probably decades, and a spending bill, which is usually a year-to-year proposition, then I’ll have to just let you make an arse out of yourself again.

    Also, where will the “conservatives” of the Senate end up voting on this infrastructure bill? Will they go Tea Party/HFC, or will they go Establishment/Chamber of Commerce?

    Do you want Trump to SEND A MESSAGE?

  50. Bitterlaw says:

    Now eat your heart you jealous b*tches.

    I would rather eat my own heart than Tgca’s food. I would need an artificial heart or a transplant but those are minor details.

  51. Bitterlaw says:

    Straight men do not use the word quaint.

    Or massage other dudes.

    Or look for photos of Chuck Connor’s junk.

  52. Cash Cow TM says:

    so it is


    But not Booker?
    Must be racism….

  53. jason says:

    ‘and a spending bill, which is usually a year-to-year proposition”

    Ah yes, I knew the goalposts would move quickly.

    So a $1 trillion spending bill is just a little year to year spending proposition.

    The hypocrisy, as usual, is astounding.

    And notice that Trump, who is meeting with Schumer and Pelosi, and will actually SIGN the bill, is not responsible at all for it.

    The fault belongs to those RINOS in Congress.

  54. jason says:

    NYC will twist himself into a pretzel to justify Trump’s infrastructure bill.

    It will be a joy to watch the contortions.

  55. jason says:

    or will they go Establishment/Chamber of Commerce?”

    Well, we already know which way Trump is going, don’t we?

    It will be hilarious to see the AFL-CIO conservatives become Infrastructure conservatives.

  56. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC loves tariffs and gifts to construction unions. It must be a New York thing.

    In NYC’s mind, it will not be Trump’s fault if he proposes blowing $1 Trillion on Dem projects. It will entirely the fault of any GOP Senator who votes to support Trump’s proposal.

  57. jason says:


    After all, according to NYC’s previous “explanations”, all Trump is doing is PROPOSING and SIGNING the bill, he has zero responsibility for it.

  58. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump could raise tariffs and propose blowing $1 trillion on infrastructure in the middle of 5th Avenue and get away with it.

  59. jason says:

    Worse than the skirt?

  60. lisab says:

    Democrats call for banning chess in schools.

    Elizabeth Warren and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez are two of the lawmakers who have called for the game to be banned, citing problems with white pieces moving first before black pieces. Also, chess organizations have done little to address the inequality between the king and queens represented in the game.

  61. jason says:

    NYC would be dumping ticker tape out of the windows.

  62. NYCmike says:

    I’ll like this infrastructure bill as much as I liked the ones passed by Dubya, or the ones sent to Obama by Republican congresses.

    I have a simple solution: let the bill die in the Senate.

    Fine by me.

  63. jason says:

    There are other problems with chess.

    Knights are outdated relics, used by despotic monarchs to exploit the citizenry.

    And bishops are symbols of religious oppression.

    Rooks are blackbirds from Eurasia, they prefer to be called Eurasian-Europeans.

  64. lisab says:


    yikes … he really has lost a step

  65. jason says:

    “I have a simple solution: let the bill die in the Senate.”


    So if Trump signs it, you will blame the Senate, right?

  66. jason says:

    Let’s see how this works.

    Trump sits down with Schumer and Pelosi, they come up with $1 trillion in pork barrel Dem projects.

    Trump urges Congress to pass bill.

    Congress passes bill.

    Trump signs bill.

    NYC claims Trump blameless, blames RINOS in Senate.

  67. VictrC says:


    Seems the Buttigieg sexual assault claim was a scam conjured up by some R operatives.

    That’s just heinous. Look the guy might be from the other side, and his policies bad, but there is no reason to stigmatize and ruin a life over politics. I abhor and condemn this hope all Republicans condemn this and ostracize these people.

    When will people learn that scams like this always backfire and cause harm to everyone, including those it portends to help.

  68. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Isn’t it interesting how NYC can blame Obama for Obamacare even though Obama could not vote on the bill BUT will excuse Trump for anything he proposes and signs when passed by Congress.

  69. Bitterlaw says:

    Vic – I agree. A lawsuit would likely fail because Mayor Pete is a public figure but he should sue them. Make them bleed money to lawyers until the suit is dismissed.

  70. mnw says:


    I thought the result was never really in doubt tonight (LIE!!). I wasn’t too concerned when the Blues gave up the shorthanded goal (then why did you scream ‘Motherf*c*er!!!” at the top of your lungs?)

  71. Tina says:

    Biden had a small crowd too.

    Bet he paid well for the union goons aka leadership to attend.

  72. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “The alleged smear merchants, Jack Burkman and Jacob Wohl, approached a third party in an attempt to concoct a story that the presidential hopeful had sex with the man while he was drunk, according to The Daily Beast.

    Wohl had previously been caught attempting to create a sexual harassment allegation against Robert Mueller during the special counsel office’s probe into Russia.”

    How idiotic. It was a clear scam from the beginning. An unattractive, dorky kid makes bogus allegations against a relatively bland, unassertive gay male. I thought it could be Democratic operatives, but they would have done a more professional job. This will probably help the Buttigieg campaign.

  73. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    74. Speaking of idiotic, lets talk about the U.S. taxpayers, who have poured about $5 billion in government subsidies into Tesla Motors. An example of the results, a Chinese company is putting billboards up pointed out the problems with the Tesla cars.

    “A Chinese ride-hailing company is so unhappy with its fleet of 278 Tesla cars that it bought billboards in Times Square to demand refunds

    A Chinese ride-hailing firm is demanding refunds from Tesla, saying 20% of the cars it purchased from the electric-car maker experienced mechanical problems.”

  74. Wes says:

    Let me get this straight:

    Trump proposes something he and the Dems agree on. The House is likely to pass it and send it to the Senate. Mikey then expects the Senate to defeat it—even though Trump is a Republican President, and the Senate is Republican.

    Then Mikey wonders why I call him one of the stupidest people ever to post on HHR.

  75. jason says:

    wes, I knew we were going to have fun watching NYC become a big fan of “infrastructure” (i.e. pork barrel spending on Dem projects) just like he became a huge fan of tariffs (i.e. tax hikes on the American people).

  76. jason says:

    Jason – Isn’t it interesting how NYC can blame Obama for Obamacare even though Obama could not vote on the bill BUT will excuse Trump for anything he proposes and signs when passed by Congress.”


    Maybe he is “evolving”.

  77. jason says:

    Maybe NYC will call the $1 trillion boondoggle proposal a “negotiating tactic”, so he can call $950 billion a “win”.

  78. mnw says:

    I haven’t known Trump to do anything that was politically inexcusable since he was elected. But, the astonishing ongoing discussion about raising the federal gasoline tax would ring the bell, I think. Why the hell is he even discussing that with the DEMs?

    On another subject, Mnuchin just said that the enforcement mechanism negotiation with China is “done.” He also said a May treaty signing is likely.

  79. Chicon says:

    Flyboy used to ridicule Trump for saying Trump Tower was wire tapped. Turns out Trump’s source for his allegation was none other than Admiral Mike Rogers, head of the NSA at the time. Good thing Robbie is on sabbatical…..

  80. Chicon says:

    Mnw, huge win for those Blues last night. Fun one to watch, although probably a tad tense for a fan of the team.

  81. mnw says:

    82 Chi

    U said it! See 72 above.

    I was so enraged by the short-handed goal, I about had a stroke.

    I WAS impressed by the poise the Blues displayed each of the 3 times they lost the lead.

    It was very gratifying to see the Stars finally get an embellishment penalty, btw. The Stars are renown throughout the NHL for diving like an SSN.

  82. Bitterlaw says:

    I am glad that mnw was able to stop looking at naked men long enough to watch hockey. He will now go back to putting together his Chuck Connors dossier.

  83. mnw says:

    84 BL

    My favorite part of NHL broadcasts is the locker room interviews with the guys, when they’re coming out of the showers.

  84. jason says:

    mnw doesn’t really “care” about Chuck Connors, that is why he doing all this research himself.

    If he cared, he would have hired a private investigator.

  85. jason says:

    mnw hasn’t identified the “sailor” “Chuck Connors” was with yet.

    Can’t wait to see whose character he will assassinate next.

  86. jason says:

    I haven’t known Trump to do anything that was politically inexcusable since he was elected.”


    I don’t know if that is the ostrich syndrome or the Stockholm syndrome.

    Could be a combination of both.

  87. Wes says:

    With all their top-tier recruits having bowed out, Dems are getting desperate here in NC. Schumer is now trying to lure Janet Cowell into the race. She’d be a decent B-list candidate, but any Dem would start as an underdog against Tillis because Tillis hasn’t made Liddy Dole’s mistakes, and Trump is likely to carry the state.

  88. VictrC says:

    All this Chuck Conners talk is giving the term “Rifleman” a whole new meaning.

    Wes, thats good news. We have a lot of seats to defend in 2020 so any that we can hold with relative ease will be good. What’s your outlook (as of now) for the Senate next year. I think it will be directly affected by who is on the top of the D ticket, meaning a Kamala Harris top of the ticket is going to hurt in R state Senate races, whereas a Biden at the time (if he doesn’t continue to slur his speech making his age a concern) could help.

  89. mnw says:

    I can’t connect “character assassination” with my referencing published reports that have been in existence for appx 50 years.

    The next time I’m at the library, I may ask the reference librarian if all Playboy magazine issues are archived. Certainly the article I read there in the early ’60s is difficult to find online today.


    You are a rude, arrogant little crank. “LOL” is SOOO witty & original, btw! Did you REALLY? That is troll cliche jargon, & I guess jason acquired that trite style by wasting hundreds of hours feeding his favorite trolls.

    You also spend your life every day typing nonsense here, but you tell us you never get around to organizing your financial records so that you can file your taxes on time. Have another”dirty martini,” smart boy.

  90. jason says:

    I can’t connect “character assassination” with my referencing published reports that have been in existence for appx 50 year”

    LOL (cliché)

    Is that what you do in the library, watch gay porno movies?

    You are the one who claimed to have researched the matter and seen with great detail that if was a “20 year old Chuck Connors”. “Article” my ass, you stated you saw all the pictures. Stop lying.

    Yeah, I requested an extension like over 10 million other Americans.

    But I can tell you one thing, I was doing better things than researching gay flicks so I could do character assassinations.

    Only you are moron and idiot enough to do that.

  91. Waingro says:


    The Hill
    Verified account

    Follow Follow @thehill
    #BREAKING: Pelosi, Schumer say they’ve agreed with Trump on a $2 trillion infrastructure bill

  92. jason says:

    I think mnw thinks “dirty martinis” are really like, ewwwwwwww….dirty….

    He will will assassinate James Bond’s character in 3, 2, 1….

  93. New York City says:

    Damm those Republican Senate RINOS.

    Traitors, every one of them.

  94. jason says:


    mnw is triggered by “LOLs”

    You know what to do, it’s the HHR way….

  95. Chicon says:

    Jason is without triggers….

  96. lisab says:

    james bond drinks beer now, specifically heineken

  97. VictrC says:

    Im torn on this infrastructure bill.

    On one hand we could use an upgrade in the system, but $2T, especially when most of it will just go into Dem supporter coffers (see Obama’s stimulus to nowhere).

    If they cut bloated Govt programs to pay for it, then maybe it can work, but NO NEW TAXES.

    If he agrees to a gas tax increase to pay for it he handed the 2020 election, any chance to regain the House and maybe the Senate to the Dems.

  98. VictrC says:

    How about, as a start to pay for it, they cut all government employees by 50%. Lay them all off, but then increase the pay of the remaining 50% by 25%. I would imagine that not only will we save billions, but government will become more efficient because

    A. Those remaining workers will be terrified of losing their cushy jobs.
    B. They will be getting paid more, and be more motivated to do a good job rather than the horrendous job they do now.

  99. Wes says:

    Dems just landed another recruitment fail this time in IA. It’s not looking good for them.

    To answer your question, Vic, I say +/- 1 or 2 either way.

  100. NYCmike says:

    “Mikey then expects the Senate to defeat it—even though Trump is a Republican President, and the Senate is Republican.”

    -I expect any Republican Senator to be financially responsible.

    Obviously, that is YUGE expectation for the posters at HHR who believe that an elected Republican has a lifetime appointment.

    If this bill is such a travesty, I will gladly put my voice along with all of yours on the answering machines of our elected representatives.

    If you don’t want to attempt to vote this down in the Senate, please make sure you assign blame to all parties who voted for the deal.

    At the same time, please show one statement where I supported this bill.

  101. NYCmike says:

    “believe that an elected Republican has a lifetime appointment.”

    -Speaking specifically about the Senate in this comment.

  102. Waingro says:

    This disastrous “infrastructure” bill is exactly one of things what I feared — policy wise – Trump would align himself with the left on. “Family leave” being another one.

    Let’s hope he comes to his senses. But yes, Cocaine Mitch et. al. better not acquiesce either.

  103. Waingro says:

    #106, and to be fair, health care was another I feared Trump would be terrible on in siding with the left, given his earlier support in the primaries for full blown “government run” heath care.

    He has pleasantly surprised me in that regard.

    And while I adamantly disagree with him on tariffs, I wouldn’t quite call that “left” v. “right” issue — so not quite the same.

  104. Chicon says:

    We’ll see on the infrastructure deal. Lots of angles to it, including 2020. Trump ran on this issue, and he’s been pretty steady about trying to fulfill his campaign promises, even the ones Jason gets triggered by. Infrastructure and trade are topics that brought in different voters in 2016.

  105. Wes says:

    Mikey expects me to assign blame for the infrastructure bill to anyone who voted for it—even though with Trump’s advocacy the Senate won’t defeat it.

    Of course he says nothing about blaming Trump—who is advocating and will sign the bill.

  106. Phil says:

    Two trillion bucks?

    On this one Trump is absolutely full of it. Total crap.

  107. Messy says:

    104. They weren’t LAST year. The tax cut for the rich nearly tripled the deficit.

  108. Messy says:

    the emperor of Japan has abdicated, the first time since the Monroe administration.

  109. Tina says:

    There is no deal.

    Fake news,

    (I do not support infrastructure bill)

  110. mnw says:

    WH Chief of Staff sez agreement with DEMs on infrastructure funding is “unlikely”; also says he’s quite hopeful about USMCA (the new U.S./ Mexican trade agreement) winning Congressional approval, however.

    RE: Venezuela

    The first day of an insurrection is usually the best day.

  111. Tina says:

    Guys here have to learn not to trust any statements from Piglosi and Rat Schumah.

  112. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Sri Lanka Bomber Trained in Syria With Islamic State: Investigators establish first direct links between terror group and Easter assault.”

    It is now clear the Sir Lanka attacks were linked to ISIS and the Mideast war on terrorism, not the New Zealand attack. Assume ISIS is likely planning a lot more attacks.

  113. Wes says:

    Tax cut for the rich, Messy the Moron?

    You mean the tax cut that has rich people howling in outrage because it scales down the SALT deduction and makes higher income people feel the full burden of high state and local taxes?

    THAT “tax cut for the rich”?

    Of course all the increased federal spending had nothing to do with the high deficits, I’m sure.

    By the way, I’m still waiting to hear from you when Brenda Snipes became a Republican.

  114. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Looks as if Biden made a smart move waiting to announced his candidacy. After watching the clown show taking place among the already announced candidates, Democratic voters appear to be turning to Biden as the only adult in the room.

  115. mnw says:

    118 SDC

    That’s sort of the sum of all fears. At least, my own.

  116. Wes says:

    All of the Trump supporters on here who were declaring Trump would outwork Biden clearly don’t understand Biden is a successful long-time pol precisely because he is hard working and assiduously analyzes races to learn how to farm issues in his favor.

    That’s why I have him as the favorite against Trump.

  117. Chicon says:

    118 – We’ll see if the progressives let loose with the copious amounts of opposition research at their disposal.

  118. Chicon says:

    120 – amazing such a political genius hasn’t won in his previous efforts. Does Joe have the same energy at 76? Wes is just a kid, but lots of people slow down in their late 70’s.

  119. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    120. I would agree. Believe Biden is the Democratic candidate most likely to beat Trump, and also would rate him as the favorite against Trump.

    The question if a ranting Bernie would try to defeat him by running as or supporting an independent candidate. I don’t think the doctrinaire socialists want Biden in office for eight years; they might torpedo him so than can try and take over the party. Then again they might decide defeating Trump is more important, and form a united front.

  120. Tina says:

    Massive movement to the Venezuela capitol.

    Madero may need to flee.

  121. Tina says:

    Cn and n taken off of Venezuela tv.

    Sheot is going down.

  122. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    124. For the sake of the Venezuelan people, I hope the CIA is actively involved.

  123. Wes says:

    Biden’s won nationally twice, Chicon. He’s won eight other elections besides those.

    I know, I know. Trump—who at 73 isn’t much younger than Biden—is an infallible political god whose reelection is more of a coronation since he’s invincible, but realistically I’m not seeing how a President averaging 46% approval is guaranteed to win against the pol best positioned to pick off said President’s voters.

  124. Tina says:

    Cia involved?

    Nah, could not be.

    They may still be spying on trump.

  125. Tina says:

    Funny how all of the economic data keeps being revised upwards. And polling reflects sunnier days ahead

  126. Tina says:

    Schiffty is refereeing Erik Prince to the doj.

    Good luck Schiffty. Fuhrer and Benito already questioned Prince and he was not charged.

  127. VictrC says:

    Wes et al

    I believe that as of today he has an edge on Trump, only in that I think he will take PA as it stands, plus potentially WI.

    Question is though, its 18 months out and Trump will have a lot of time to exploit those weaknesses that have come out previously. Biden has been a traditionally weak candidate given his experience and likability, never going anywhere in the D campaign before.

    Of course there is also the identity card. as the primaries move on and candidates drop out both Harris and Buttagieg (sic) should hang around because they will have the Black and Gay coalitions behind them, trust me those consituencies are not going to be that quick to give up on them, meaning the final four should be those two, Sander and Biden. Now its a different ballgame as the left coalesces behind them.

    What all that means is that I don’t think its a cakewake for Biden, especially given his propensity for gaffes, his “whiteness” and age.

    I am also not ready to count out a sitting President with a Billion to spend on a campaign and the ability to shape policy that will appeal to PA, MI, WI, MI and Ohio voters.

  128. VictrC says:

    caveat – everyone should remember that Trump was not my choice in 2016 (sadly I supported Rubio who turned out to be horrendous) so I am FAR FROM a Trump flunky.

    I cringe at his twitter rants, his crudeness and crassness, but, I am a realist. I can not fathom what it will be like with a D leftist president, D house and potentially a D congress. They will make Obama look like Coolidge.


  129. Wes says:

    Buttigieg is already being dismissed as a lightweight. Harris has sunk because she doesn’t know how to run a competitive campaign.

    A recent poll in the Dem primary electorate had ability to beat Trump as the most important thing.

    If that holds up identity politics won’t matter because Dems have one priority: take Trump out.

  130. Chicon says:

    127 – I chuckled out loud at Biden winning twice nationally. C’mon now. By that logic, so did Cheney and Gore. Biden hasn’t won squat nationally.

    I was talking about your guy, Joe, who you said in 120 is a successful long term pol. How many times has he run for President? How many times has he even been nominated?

  131. Wes says:

    Vic, PA, MI, and WI also clobbered Republicans last year as a direct indication of dissatisfaction with Trump.

    Unless Trump gets his act together AND Dems pick a disaster of a candidate Trump will have a tough time next year.

  132. VictrC says:


    Agree to a degree. 18 months out is a log way out.

    The biggest wildcard are going to be Bernie Supporters and the far left.

    I guess Biden could temper the identity politics card by naming Harris his running mate.

    At the end of the day, Biden is Trump’s worst potential opponent. Folksy, an everyday kind of guy, associated with Obama, etc

  133. Wes says:

    Twice. Never.

    How many times has he won national office though?


    That’s once more thanTrump.

    How many elections has Biden lost?

    None. Same as Trump.

    I know, Chicon. Trump is invincible—because beating an unlikable candidate who assumed she had the election won and let him outwork her means a candidate can never lose, even if that candidate is perennially unpopular.

  134. Chicon says:

    Wes, produce the post where I said Trump is invincible.

    You started with a theory – Trump will lose. Then you threw in a statement to support your conclusion – that Biden is a long term successful pol. This statement is questionable, at best.

    Trump may lose. If he does, it’ll be because of Trump, not Biden.

  135. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Biden is fully capable of doing or saying something dumb. VP candidates often do not succeed as presidential candidates — Humphrey, Quayle and Gore are examples. I am not sure Biden has the gravitas to be president. He tends to say silly things at times.

    I would rate him as the early favorite over Trump, but anything could happen. The end of the Mueller investigation, and a strong economy, will help Trump.

    However, Biden has to get through the primary first. He had a poll bounce after his announcement, but it may not last How much free stuff will he need to offer to counter the other candidates who think they are Santa Claus?

  136. NYCmike says:

    “Wes, produce the post where I said Trump is invincible.”


    Still waiting for the post where I said I approve of the infrastructure (non)bill.