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Biden Leads Trump By 11% Nationally

Fox News is falling into line with just about everyone else showing Joe Biden dominating the Democratic field and well ahead of Donald Trump in the General Election.

PRESIDENT – NATIONAL – DEM PRIMARY (Fox News)
Joe Biden 35%
Bernie Sanders 17%
Elizabeth Warren 9%
Pete Buttigieg 6%
Kamala Harris 5%
Beto O’Rourke 4%
Cory Booker 3%
Julian Castro 2%
Amy Klobuchar 2%
Tulsi Gabbard 1%
John Delaney 1%
Jay Inslee 1%
Tim Ryan 1%
Andrew Yang 1%
Marianne Williamson 1%
Kirsten Gillibrand 0%
John Hickenlooper 0%
Wayne Messam 0%
Eric Swalwell 0%
Seth Moulton 0%
Mike Gravel 0%
Michael Bennet 0%

PRESIDENT – NATIONAL (Fox News)
Joe Biden (D) 49%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 38%

Bernie Sanders (D) 46%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Elizabeth Warren (D) 43%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Kamala Harris (D) 41%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%
Pete Buttigieg (D) 40%

This poll was done May 11-14 among 1008 registered voters and 469 Democratic primary voters.

Posted by Dave at 11:12 am
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439 Responses to “Biden Leads Trump By 11% Nationally”

  1. dblaikie says:

    First

  2. mnw says:

    RAS is same as yesterday: 45/53 & -11.

    That’s 4 down days in a row. Doesn’t seem like noise.

  3. Waingro says:

    Ooph that Biden-Trump HTH topline number is absolutely brutal.

  4. dblaikie says:

    As I said in the last thread the RAS numbers reflect the importance of the economy. It is no coincidence that Trump’s numbers dropped right after the break down in the China talks, the imposition of tariffs, and the 600 point drop in the stock market.

    Since then those situations have stabilized to certain degree. If my above point is correct than Trump’s numbers in the RAS poll will slowly rise once again — unless the economy seems even more unstable — than the confirmation will be a further lowering of approval numbers.

  5. dblaikie says:

    I always find fox polls interesting because the stereotype is that the network is right wing but the polls are always leaning towards the dems.

    It is my fervent hope that Uncle Joe is the nominee. But first he has to survive the onslaught coming at him from the left.

    Frankly he doesn’t seem all there. Folks may disagree with me, as they often do, but I don’t believe he has the physical energy to make a serious 18 month run at the Presidency.

  6. mnw says:

    The anxiety about Iran may play into the poor rolls also.

    I think Trump will never back down on trade issues. It’s who he is, & he’s been consistent on that one policy issue for 30 years.

  7. mnw says:

    “polls”

  8. 6. To be successful in the Chinese negotiations, Trump realizes he is going to have to stay the course despite how it affects his poll numbers.

    It is ironic that after the Mueller controversy is off the front page of the news, Tromp’s poll numbers decline. Bill Clinton had his highest polling numbers during the time he was being impeached. The Democrats needs to remember Carville’s advise: “Its the economy, stupid.” Biden focusing on bread and butter issues, instead of leftist social change, is a smart decision.

  9. mnw says:

    8 SDC

    I agree with all of that.

  10. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    A poster made an excellent observation on the RRH Elections site:

    “Biden is polling strongly now because he’s seen as a blank slate people falsely project their own ideology onto.”

  11. jason says:

    I think Trump will never back down on trade issues. It’s who he is,”

    I agree with this.

    He is an isolationist and a protectionist, he has held these positions for decades.

    That is why the “negotiating stance” argument by the AFL-CIO conservatives is a load of crap.

  12. Cash Cow TM says:

    Sad day overseas….

    DRUDGE

    “Austrians told to stop French kissing COWS…”

    Personally (or cow-ally?) I enjoy a good French kiss from humans.

  13. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    12. What’s next, are they going to tell Joe Biden he can’t blow in a cow’s ear anymore?

  14. lisab says:

    i think biden is strong now because he is getting almost all of the moderate dem vote

    the sjw vote is spread over 17 candidates.

    about 20% of sanders supporters say they wont vote for biden

    (or anybody but sanders)

    but that remains to be seen.

  15. gameboy says:

    #14 No need to fear Biden in the general. All you have to do is watch him speak. He’s slow, studders, and doesn’t make any sense. His time has long passed. There is for sure a contingent of Bernie supporters who will not vote for a Biden type. I personally know a handful of Bernie people who pulled the lever for Jill Stein as they refused to vote for Hillary. I’m sure that number will increase from 2016 as those people will feel Bernie baby was screwed over twice.

  16. Big Joe says:

    #14- That has always been Joe Biden’s path. His lane is mostly clear, the other lane is jam packed.

    Big Joe

  17. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    16. “I’m sure that number will increase from 2016 as those people will feel Bernie baby was screwed over twice.”

    Gameboy, just a warning that this type of comment drives several anti-Trump posters bonkers.

  18. lisab says:

    i was one of the jill stein voters that would not vote for hillary

    but i think a lot depends on how biden treats the others in debates

    he has a nasty temper

    he needs to keep it in check

  19. lisab says:

    Gameboy, just a warning that this type of comment drives several anti-Trump posters bonkers.
    —————-

    never trumpers to mention the 15000 close family members/or female friends they have in the pennsylvania suburbs who have who have always voted republican, but who have told them that they will 100% vote for the democrat candidate in 2020 in 3 … 2 … 1

  20. Tina says:

    Is this the final post for today from the Biden Tariffs Report?

  21. Tina says:

    Canada, USA end tariffs on steel and aluminum.

    Japan ends restrictions on us beef.

    But muh trade war @ the Biden Tariffs Report.

  22. lisab says:

    The left is starting to take aim at Democratic front-runner Joe Biden. At a conference this week, liberal activists repeatedly booed when told that Biden wanted to find “middle ground” on climate policy. When an audience member shouted “No middle ground!” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) replied, “No middle ground is right!” and declared “I will be damned if the same politicians who refused to act come back today and say we need a middle-of-the-road approach to save our lives.” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) joined in her criticism, “There is no ‘middle ground’ when it comes to climate policy.”

  23. NYCmike says:

    “Canada, USA end tariffs on steel and aluminum.

    Japan ends restrictions on us beef.”

    -I am sure Trump will try to change this, as he is a lifelong protectionist and lover of tariffs.

  24. Tgca says:

    So Mayor Butt thinks they should banish Jefferson’s name because he was a slaveholder and therefore not someone to look up to as honorable. Ha! Ha! Ha!

    1st he alienates AA by appearing to protect racist white police by demoting a well respected AA police chief. Now he wants to obliterate Jefferson from public life.

    …and folks think this Butt boy has what it takes to win independents and midwesterners on a national level because he’s a Midwesterner?

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/17/pete-buttigieg-erasing-thomas-jeffersons-name-right-thing-to-do/

  25. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisa’s apparently know more about PA voters than people who live in PA. Well, she is an expert on being a gay man even though she is not a man or gay.

  26. Tina says:

    So, Fib was investigating Flynn’s Russian ties that he cleared with the ODNI, while paying him as a consultant, per his financial disclosure report.

  27. Proud Obamacon says:

    BJ and Lisa both alleged left leaners will somehow magically find a reason to vote for the Pussy Grabber … whatever yall

    #RESIST!

  28. jason says:

    The AFL-CIO conservatives here are really in great company.

    “Earlier this week, the anti-Green New Deal American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations — otherwise known as the AFL-CIO — called for the working class to “seize the means of production.”

  29. Wes says:

    Gameboy types the exact thing about Sanders supporters I saw said about Hillary voters on here in 2008. (Remember the so-called PUMAs?)

    There’s as much evidence it’ll work out that way now as there was back then.

    It’s really quite simple:

    Trump is an unpopular President whose favorability has consistently been in the danger zone for incumbents and has rarely risen above that threshold—never for a sustained period of time.

    That’s a clear recipe for defeat.

    All of the Rube-Goldberg scenarios declaring his reelection are just as substantial as the infamous Delbov Curve was.

    It never had to be this way. Trump could have grown up and acted presidential. That would have assured his reelection. He hasn’t. He won’t. That’s why he’ll lose.

  30. dblaikie says:

    I appreciate Wes’s certainty, but I am afraid it is unfounded. Countering the question of Trump’s unpopularity is an unpopular Democratic Party lurching left and overreaching with their investigations. In addition we have a field of dem candidates who is led by a man who seems to be more senile each month. Finally we are in the midst of a good economy. That is a clear recipe for victory if things don’t change.

  31. Ron N says:

    I hate to say this but if Trump would of acted presidential. He would have been impeached if he didn’t fight back. If he was quiet like bush he would be gone or his numbers would be worst then they are now.

  32. Wes says:

    You seem to have a thing for non sequiturs, Ron.

    Bush was a faux cowboy who was incapable of fighting back.

    I was thinking of the most successful GOP President of the 20th Century—Ronald Reagan, who acted presidential and and marginalized his enemies by making it impossible for Americans to dislike him.

    Conflating being presidential with a pansy is simply a case of intellectual dishonesty.

  33. Wes says:

    DB, I have a challenge for you:

    List for me every President with Trump’s popularity level who’s actually won reelection.

    You’ll have a very short list, I can assure you.

  34. mnw says:

    Just got back from the Blues game. Play “Gloria”!

  35. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Am reminded of the Young Turk election meltdown in 2016 where they began the program proving how it was impossible for Trump to win, and then the election returns came in and the melt down began.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiWY0iRLV94&t=1245s

  36. gameboy says:

    #19 I live in the heart of the Philly suburbs….next township over from the Bitterlaw guy. I suspect walking distance from the old MD poster.
    From what I can tell in my circle of friends, folks at work, etc. Trump has picked up marginal support from 2016.

  37. Tina says:

    A lie told often enough = Russian Dossier that Comedy pushed.

    James Comey
    ?
    @Comey
    · 8h
    The president claiming the FBI’s investigation was “TREASON“ reminds me that a Russian once said, “A lie told often enough becomes the truth.” That shouldn’t happen in America. Who will stand up?

  38. Tgca says:

    MAGA,
    MAGA!
    MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

  39. Bitterlaw says:

    Gameboy – Interesting. Of the people I know, the ones who voted for Trump will vote for him again. However, I know people who did not vote for President in 2016 because they hated Trump and Clinton equally. They will all vote for the Democrat in 2020. They will also vote straight GOP in the other races.

  40. Tgca says:

    1st, I know it’s only anecdotal but folks I know that were against Trump from day one seem to have accepted him for the way he is at this point and are now used to his personality. They don’t fret over his tweeting and behavior anymore because he has normalized it, and he has picked up supporters among them, including here.

    2nd, the national polls consistently show he is where he was or above on Election Day so if he could win at that level against HRC, the current cast of Dem clowns have an uphill battle to defeat him. However, at the end of the day, it’s state by state that matters.

    3rd, I think GOP and Indy’s will look at accomplishments over personality when it comes time to vote as long as the accomplishments still keep coming and they consider the alternative Dem cast of clowns.

    4th, don’t discount the damage the Dems and MSM have done to themselves by pushing all these investigations, and the resulting DOJ investigations on the FBI and other Clinton loyalists which might just make it easier for folks in the middle to accept that Trump was a target all along.

    5th, neither party can win without moderates and I just can’t see the Dems grabbing those moderates with the cast of clowns they have running.

    6th, Trump won the white male and female vote in 2016 and I suspect that will happen again in larger numbers with all the anti-white and anti-male messages being pushed by the far left.

    7th, I believe Trump has energized his base and plus some that are very loyal to him, and even though the left was more energized in 2018, I’m not sure they will sustain that as he constantly beats them at the game.

    8th, I truly believe their is civil war on the left with all these folks fighting, and not all Bernie core voters will accept a 2nd loss and embrace the Dem candidate. I think enough of them will become unraveled if they perceive he is sidelined again. These are not the most rational folks.

    9th, it will be the economy economy economy for the vast amount of moderates, and Latinos, of whom he did well with in the last election compared to previous GOP candidates are benefiting greatly so I don’t see them abandoning him over immigration issues.

    …and just to round it out to 10th, I am never wrong on these things because I’m an expert in these matters just as LisaB is an expert in gay males so as long as the economy keeps bustling, the MSM and Dems behave the way they do, and more comes out on the DOJ and FBI behavior, anti-white messages persist with the Dem candidates, me thinks Trump is re-elected.

  41. Tgca says:

    39 Bitter

    I know it’s only anectdotsl but I’m seeing the opposite among folks I know in Jersey and CA. They include Latino, Asian, Jewish, and women and who have reluctantly come over to Trump because of where the Dem party is going.

    I question the sanity of GOP voting for Bernie or Kamala or Booker over Trump because they don’t like his tweeting and obnoxious behavior. It’s like the Jews voting for Nazis. The Dems wish to marginalize and penalize GOP constituents so if GOP folks are foolish enough to vote for folks who want to harm them, so be it. It defies logic and shows their anti-Trump hate outweighs their common sense.

    So in summary, you know STOOPID people!

  42. Tina says:

    What time do we get a new post from the admin. of the Biden-Tariffs Report?

  43. Hugh says:

    Tgca. I agree. The other day my gay brother in law who is a moderate democrat tells my wife and I he will vote this time for trump. He thinks he’s an unpresidential jerk who gets things done and the dems have become lunatics. He says the tweeting while annoying is already baked into the cake and it doesn’t matter any more.

  44. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw and ChiCon:
    Your Blues survived near death last night, but, once again, played a lousy final period. They skated like they were playing in mud.
    The team’s first post-season acquisition, win or lose, should be a Conditioning Coach.

  45. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Tgca and Hugh:
    So you know, today the Conservative Parties in Austrailia defied all pre-election polls, which showed them losing badly, to score an upset victory over the Leftist Parties.
    The Aussie political pundits are comparing the election to Trump’s surprise 2016 Presidential win. Trump has really shaken things up worldwide.
    Of course, social media platforms are full of Liberal rage. Initially, the Losers claimed they would depart Austrailia for New Zealand and Canada. An hour later, they said that Climate Denial and Racism won the day. I guess that sometime soon, we will hear about Russian Collusion and interference!

  46. Tgca says:

    43. Hugh

    Long time no see. How are Hugh. Ha! Pun intended.

    You keeping FL warm for my visit next month? I’ve not been there since late last summer.

    From what I’ve seen in people I know, they discount the Trump behavior as par for the course and tolerate it as long as he continues to have accomplishments.

    Without the MSM and Dems against him 24/7, I do believe he would be at 50 to 53 approval in this climate with a good economy but no sense in wishful thinking.

    Granted, his behavior does make him an easier target but even if he was easy going as Reagan, the MSM and Dems would behave the same because they just hate the GOP policies regardless of the personality and they abhor the success of the GOP. It’s all about votes and power.

    I’m not sure Reagan could thrive in this environment today because he just did not have the personality to deal with such hatred. But who knows, folks can adapt under the toughest situations.

  47. Tgca says:

    45. Sheeple

    Clearly the folks in Australia are racist. I was not aware the conservatives prevailed down under. I’ll have to check that out later.

  48. Just Fill Out The Census says:

    I am fortunate enough to be in Philadelphia on personal business and may have the opportunity to attend the BIDEN LAUNCH RALLY!

    The city is buzzing this morning with excitement. Based on my observations, Pennsylvania is voting blue in 2020. The election won’t even be close.

    Trump is finished here!

  49. Tina says:

    Can somebody let Comedy know that he is obstructing several criminal investigations? The Obumbler is not there to help him,

    James Comey
    @Comey
    · 11h
    The AG should stop sliming his own Department. If there are bad facts, show us, or search for them professionally and then tell us what you found. An AG must act like the leader of the Department of Justice, an organization based on truth. Donald Trump has enough spokespeople.

  50. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #47- Tgca
    I’ll save you some time. Here is the link to the Austailian election results:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d47NV6qKYAw

  51. Tina says:

    Mulehead will not testify in the House because Republicans are meanies. Prolly better luck with Da Nang Dicks Committee in the Senate and the corrupticons.

    https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/444354-mueller-mystery-will-he-ever-testify-to-congress

    “He doesn’t want to be trashed by the Republicans,” said Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.), who serves on the Intelligence Committee and is close to Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a fellow California Democrat.

    “Does anyone want their reputation dragged through the mud falsely? You’ve seen Jim Jordan [R-Ohio] in action. He can handle his own, but they’ll ask questions like, ‘Why didn’t you look at this and why didn’t you look at that?’ I mean, talk about a thankless job.”

  52. mnw says:

    44

    RE: ‘conditioning coach”

    Can’t agree with that. Agree completely, though, that Blues were out of gas throughout the second half last night.

    Here’s the thing, though. The bread & butter of this team for 97 games (so far), has been out-muscling their opponents on the boards. USUALLY, it’s been the OTHER team that looks exhausted in the third period. That’s what the Blues do.

    So I don’t think conditioning is the problem. The big weaknesses, imo, have been special teams & puck management when the other team pulls its goalie. And they need to take more low percentage shots, too.

  53. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Climate Change hysteria Down Under goes down! Poor people voted for the Party that does NOT want to spend a fortune on this matter.

    http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3750285/posts

  54. Hugh says:

    Tgca life is good in Florida. Retiring sort of in less than a year and will finally get a boat for my new dock to enjoy the good Florida life, state tax free. Hope all is well in my favorite byob town. But if I remember right you don’t drink so I have no idea why you moved there.

  55. Wes says:

    Ronald Reagan—dubbed the media an “amiable dunce,” called Ray-gun derisively because of his concern with military buildup, openly speculated as the trigger for a nuclear holocaust, repeatedly labeled “anti-poor”—lacked the personality to deal effectively with the media attacks Trump endures?

    Well, the 1984 results say otherwise.

    You really must not do a goddamn bit of research but just post whatever Trump-fluffing nonsense comes to mind, Tg.

  56. Wes says:

    As for all these anecdotes I’m seeing about how about how liberals are turning to Trump or joining some shadowy cabal intended to help Trump win re-election because only Bernie is pure enou

  57. Wes says:

    gh for them, I saw nearly identical posts with the names changed in 2008–a year also featuring a perennially unpopular GOP President.

    How’d that work out for you?

  58. Phil says:

    Depends on the economy. I think Trump beats Harris, Warren or Sanders. They are just too leftist. Biden? Very much uphill IMO.

  59. Phil says:

    Apparently the left made climate change the centerpiece of their campaign and went all in on it. Well, that didn’t work. I have always believed the climate change stuff wouldn’t fly as a big Election Day winner regardless of the country. The only people that get fired up about it are people on the fringe like AOC.

  60. Hugh says:

    Australia is much more focused on climate change America. And it was loser there

  61. Wes says:

    It was hilarious to see the environmental loons go down to stinging defeat in Australia, Phil.

    Of course the ruling conservatives have been good stewards of the country and avoided looking like jackasses, so with the added benefit of a strong economy Australians had a solid incentive to maintain the status quo.

  62. Here is the headline from CNN regarding the Australian election: “Australian PM Scott Morrison claims historic win after Labor loses ‘unlosable’ election.”

    The Australian election and the U.S. elections in 2016 are examples of why it is folly for posters to state with 100% certainty that Trump will lose in 2020.

  63. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    As in recent Canadian elections, the rejection of ecosocialist appears to be a factor in a leftist party losing.

    “It was billed as the climate change election, and the climate lost.
    Despite enduring its hottest year on record and a series of environmental calamities that have brought the climate emergency into sharp relief, Australia has voted for the centre-right Liberal party and its coalition partner, and against taking forceful action on the climate crisis.
    The ruling Coalition looks set to be returned to government, albeit possibly with the support of independents, in a remarkable victory given that the Labor opposition has won every opinion poll since mid-2016.
    The election was framed as a great climate showdown. The Coalition has held power over a tumultuous six years, during which two prime ministers have been toppled and it has suffered from catastrophic infighting, largely over energy policy, as it has has been unable to agree on taking action on the climate crisis or even agree as to its reality. The Labor party, which proposed introducing a target of reducing emissions by 45% by 2030, said the difference between the parties’ policies on the climate crisis was “night and day, black and white”.
    The Coalition has proposed a “climate solutions” fund that pays polluters to lower their emissions. Experts have questioned whether this will achieve Australia’s commitment under the Paris agreement to lower emissions by 28%. The Coalition has also said it would support new coalmines and, just two days before the election was called, pushed through environmental approvals needed to progress the controversial Adani coalmine project near the Great Barrier Reef.”

  64. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The quote in #63 is from the Guardian, which is in a state of shock. They now have likely losses in European parliament elections and Canadian national elections to look forward to.

  65. Wes says:

    As opposed to posters who say with 100% certainty Trump can’t lose, SDC?

    Conveniently your criticism goes 100% to one group.

    As for the Australian elections, Labor tried the Hillary strategy of ignoring one whole area of the country to get votes elsewhere. It worked out so well for her Labor decided to try to replicate her success. 🙄

    Also, Australia has a robust economy, and the government isn’t unpopular—certainly not the way Theresa May is in Britain. I wonder how much of the perception of Labor’s victory was herd mentality and how much was based on tangible evidence of their supposedly impending victory.

  66. Tina says:

    Does the Biden Tariffs Report have the crowd size for the philly rally?

    Looked smallish on the pics.

  67. Tina says:

    Arnold was attacked in South Africa, He is fine.

    Looks rippped for 71 years old.

  68. Tgca says:

    55. Do some history? I was there!

    I remember watching the Reagan debates.

    I remember watching news coverage of Reagan.

    I remember reading about him in The NY Times and Wall St Journal when they were actually writing informative articles.

    I remember discussing Reagan in current events in history in a very Dem town where they went against Reagan big time but teachers were not vitriolic about him as you find today.

    Reagan was made fun and mocked, yeah, like every GOP POTUS but he faced nothing like the press that GWB and Trump faced. Not even close! The press was harsh at times but they were not like the so-called journalists of today because many knew there were lines not to cross and they had some dignity to leave some of their most bias at the door and not put it in the face of the American people which was a different generation and would not have tolerated it.

    Many newscasters back in the day appeared very balanced on TV and did not show open contempt and hatred the way they do today.

    Reagan also faced a completely different demographics and was part of the greatest generation who are all but gone now and were patriotic back then and actually cared about the US over illegals, criminals, climate hypocrisy, gender-bender issues, reparations, etc. The demographics are different. Reagan would get barely 40% if even that today in his home state of CA.

    Reagan could not win any of the states Clinton won and I doubt he would have won PA, WI, and MI too which means he could not get elected today. Trump won PA, MI, and WI simply because he resonated with the angst of angry white males left behind and degraded by elite Dems. Reagan preaching a shiny city on the hill today would do nothing to win those folks over today. They did not want to hear pep talks. They wanted a fighter to stick it in the face of Dems and thats why they won the presidency for Trump. He fought for them and gave it back to the Dems and MSM unlike any GOP politician ever before, and that strategy won him the WH against all other GOP candidates, otherwise, we would have POTUS Clinton today because not a single 2016 GOP candidate could beat Hillary.

    So living history is a bit different than reading some summary embellished notes put out today.

  69. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    65. “As opposed to posters who say with 100% certainty Trump can’t lose, SDC?”

    Wes, I actually at this point would rate Biden more likely to win than Trump. However, and the point I was making against all sides, is it its too early to know for sure. The outcome is still uncertain — you say it is impossible for Trump to win. You said the same thing in 2016, and here was your election night post:

    Wes says:
    November 9, 2016 at 12:13 am
    Congratulations to all Trump supporters.
    He did the impossible.

    At this point, I don’t know who is going to win, and believe it is likely to be a close race.

  70. dblaikie says:

    33 Wes two can play at the history game. According to the Brookings Institution in the modern political era no incumbent has lost in the middle of a vibrant economy. But more than that is that Trump broke the mold for Presidential Candidates and has turned elections on their head. So frankly I don’t know for sure if a strong economy will push Trump over the finish line, but I tend to think it will. If the Economy goes south than his reelection is in serious jeopardy.

    However against this is the incredible actions of the democratic party in the last six months. I have watched with amazement how they have fallen from their strong position after the Government shutdown to what they are today. Trump derangement syndrome is a destructive force in this cycle and if they keep up illogical overreaching they will lose. More than that their field of 22 is incredibly weak. I have real doubts about Uncle Joe sharpness of mind and his energy level. The rest are pathetic candidates.

    So despite deep unpopularity along the coasts and around places like Austin I think he has the advantage. Especially when you factor in that his core of support is unwavering at about 40%. He won 2016 with 46%. In the sheme of things getting that 6 to 10 points will not be that difficult — as long as the economy remains strong.

  71. Tina says:

    Shh, do,not tell comedy that a Russian did not make this statement.

    James Comey
    @Comey
    · 18h
    The president claiming the FBI’s investigation was “TREASON“ reminds me that a Russian once said, “A lie told often enough becomes the truth.” That shouldn’t happen in America. Who will stand up?

  72. NYCmike says:

    “As opposed to posters who say with 100% certainty Trump can’t lose, SDC?”

    -I will say, with 100% certainty, that when Wes says something, he believes it with 101% CERTAINTY.

  73. mnw says:

    63

    I dunno what you’re quoting there, but it makes our MSM look like exemplars of objectivity by comparison.

  74. 74. It was a quote from the very far left Guardian newspaper, which was looking forward to a Labor victory in Australia, and their support for a carbon tax and other extreme climate-related measures. It was breakthrough moment in the crusade to save the Earth from climate change. They are devastated at the loss.

    If Trudeau is voted out later this year, it will be another major defeat in the battle against climate change. If Trump is re-elected in 2020, the planet will then be doomed.

  75. mnw says:

    The Guardian also did that disastrous thing where they asked their readers to write to OH voters in 2012, urging them to vote for Kerry.

    Dogs didn’t like that dog food at all.

  76. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The leftist climate warriors are having a complete meltdown because of the outcome of the Australian election. They thought it would prove that voters were ready to support a radical climate change agenda. Losing this one is devastating given that climate change was a major issue in the campaign.

    It is likely one reason for the results is that too much renewable energy in the South Australia, particularly wind turbines, has resulted in major power outages. Besides unreliability, it has also resulted in the state having some of the highest energy prices in the world.

  77. mnw says:

    As Booker has stated, to his credit, the only way Green renewable energy plans will ever be practical is if you add nuclear power to the mix.

    The left would drink Jim Jones’ special Kool Aid* before they’d allow THAT.

    *(I realize it was a Kool Aid knock off, not Kool Aid, but the legend has become fact.)

  78. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is a great tweet comparing Britain’s wind energy providing a week without coal, and France which gets most of its energy from nuclear power.

    @dmichie66
    “The UK’s success at going an entire week without burning coal is to be applauded, but right now France’s electricity is roughly ONE TENTH the carbon intensity of the UK, and they’ve been doing this for forty years.

  79. lisab says:

    regarding trump vs. biden in 2020

    if both are still alive and are the nominees

    and assuming there is no catastrophe on either side

    then both are almost guaranteed 40% of the vote

    they have a great shot at both getting 45% of the vote

    leaving just 10% to fight over.

    trump needs about 3 or 4% of the middle 10% to win the election given the demographics.

    it is a coin flip, with a slight edge to trump.

    i think this is one of the times when the debates will be meaningful.

    cnn: orangeman … i mean mr. trump … can you please explain the impact of government regulations … *cough* you suck *cough* … on micro and small enterprise’s performance … *cough* you suck *cough* … and the improvement of their business opportunities under obama?

    trump: blah blah blah … maga … blah blah blah

    cnn: mr. biden your holiness … what is your favourite colour?

    biden: i like orange … wait … no … ummmmm … red … i meant red

  80. lisab says:

    The UK’s success at going an entire week without burning coal is to be applauded,
    ————————————

    or we could burn coal which is one-third the cost of nuclear power

  81. lisab says:

    don’t get me wrong, i am all for the new forms of nuclear power … just don’t build the power plants next to major population centers or fault lines or oceans

  82. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    81. “or we could burn coal which is one-third the cost of nuclear power”

    Pay a visit to a major Chinese city, and you will see & taste why China is switching to natural gas as fast as it can.

  83. Here is a You Tube video of Chinese cities power by coal.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5BK9PWqdhg

  84. lisab says:

    What do we know about massage therapists? They like to rub strangers for money while they listen to the “Avatar” soundtrack. That’s a red flag. Those are the traits of a serial killer.

    I never know what to say during the massage. Sometimes I’ll try to break the ice: “Hey, you’re not allergic to leprosy, are you?”

    They never laugh. You know why? ‘Cause they’re busy imagining making a suit out of my skin. ’cause they’re murderers! They already put the lotion in the basket.

    So that’s why I still have a sore neck.

    jim gaffigan

  85. lisab says:

    here is indianapolis

    indiana is one of the heaviest users of coal 🙂

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udJX8ERecwQ

  86. lisab says:

    of course sdc does bring up a good point

    maybe it is not a good idea to offshore our factories to china …

    the chinese government is a little irresponsible

  87. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The most important environmental benefit the Earth is now experiencing, including reduction in greenhouse gases, is China rapidly replacing coal use with natural gas. And lets not forget that the reason for the China’s coal use is to supply U.S. consumers goods — we exported our pollution to China, so that liberal politicians can claim to be environmentalists.

    “A total of 4.8 million Chinese households made the switch from coal to natural gas and electricity in 2018, up from 4 million households who had switched away from coal in 2017, Reuters quoted Li as saying at a press conference on Monday.

    “The things that could easily be done have already mostly been done, and the things that need to be done afterwards are much harder,” Li said.

    In the previous winter, the coal-to-natural gas switch policy led to gas shortages in many areas in north China, but the country has managed its natural gas imports and needs much better this winter season. The policy to curb coal use resulted in China becoming the key driver on the global liquefied natural gas (LNG) market over the past few years.

    In 2018, China’s natural gas imports—including pipeline and LNG imports—soared by nearly 32 percent from 2017 to a record 90.39 million tons, solidifying China’s position as the world’s biggest importer of the fuel.”

    A total of 4.8 million Chinese households made the switch from coal to natural gas and electricity in 2018, up from 4 million households who had switched away from coal in 2017, Reuters quoted Li as saying at a press conference on Monday.

    “The things that could easily be done have already mostly been done, and the things that need to be done afterwards are much harder,” Li said.

    In the previous winter, the coal-to-natural gas switch policy led to gas shortages in many areas in north China, but the country has managed its natural gas imports and needs much better this winter season. The policy to curb coal use resulted in China becoming the key driver on the global liquefied natural gas (LNG) market over the past few years.

    In 2018, China’s natural gas imports—including pipeline and LNG imports—soared by nearly 32 percent from 2017 to a record 90.39 million tons, solidifying China’s position as the world’s biggest importer of the fuel.

  88. lisab says:

    i have more pictures of my children on my iphone,

    than my father ever looked at me

    jim gaffigan

  89. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    86. “here is indianapolis indiana is one of the heaviest users of coal”

    Sorry lisab, Indiannapolis just switched from coal to natural gas; Indiana is going in that direction too.

    “Three years ago, Indianapolis Power & Light sent a shudder through the coal industry when it converted its Harding Street Station power plant—which used to burn 2 million tons of coal a year—to natural gas, ending a coal tradition that began when the plant opened in 1931. A few months later, IPL converted the coal-fired units at its Eagle Valley power plant in Martinsville to natural gas.
    Other Indiana electric utilities are heading in the same direction.”

  90. mnw says:

    88

    Did not know that. Interesting.

  91. lisab says:

    indiana is the most coal burning state in the union by percentage

    texas is by actual tonnage

    both look spectacular!

  92. lisab says:

    One of the nation’s top coal producers, about two-thirds of the coal mined in Indiana never leaves the state. Contributing to nearly 85% of the state’s total energy, coal is disproportionately represented in Indiana’s the energy mix. In 2014, the state consumed 48.9 million tons of coal, producing a total 97.7 million MwH. As in many other states, the consumption of natural gas is on the rise in Indiana. While natural gas produced only 1.9% of the state’s energy in 2004, a decade later, more than 8% of electricity in Indiana was generated by natural gas. Texas is the only state that consumes more coal than Indiana.

  93. lisab says:

    although i have nothing against natural gas

    (except the problems from fracking)

  94. Wes says:

    Justin Amash backs impeaching Trump:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/may/19/michigans-justin-amash-becomes-first-republican-to-back-trump-impeachment

    Despite my clearly bleak view of Trump’s re-election prospects, I have never backed impeachment. Amash is a Ronulan loon. I hope to God this idiocy causes some Republican to challenge him and oust him from Congress.

  95. Wes says:

    I am pro choice. I have mixed feelings about the Alabama abortion bill. That said, I can’t fathom how stupid Bill Weld is to say this:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/HunterMw/status/1129905185424322561

    Even Donald Trump after decades of a staunch pro-choice position was smart enough to know not to say something like this in a GOP primary. This is one more reason among many Weld will lose overwhelmingly to Trump in the primaries.

  96. lisab says:

    weld is an alcoholic

    he was a great governor, but the statehouse had a two drink minimum under his administration

  97. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    97. “but the statehouse had a two drink minimum under his administration.”

    Saying good things about him will still not get me to vote for him.

  98. Tgca says:

    94 LisaB

    You have nothing against natural gas?

    Good to hear. Me neither. But I do try to limit the amount of beans I eat though especially during lunch because the afternoon meetings can be difficult then.

  99. Tgca says:

    Ciento!

  100. Tina says:

    Just Amoron is no conservative. He has voted to allow illegals to vote in municipal,elections (only 1 r in house to do so).

    Just Amoron also refused to condemn the two IEDs in congress for their anti Semitic actions. Ayatollah Tilab just reached out to him. The Palestine Wing in Congress now appears mobilized.

    Fine, he is for impeachment, but he also attacked Barr, accusing him of misleading. He cited no basis for this, along with his “points” that he tweeted,

    Finally, Just Amoron will now face some Primary challengers.

    Of further concern, is Just Amoron owns a business with operations in China that depend on importing cheap product into the US. He is clearly upset with the impact of Tariffs, (Dynamic Source International).

    He needs to

  101. Tina says:

    (Forgot to delete my last sentence and hit submit too soon)*

  102. trumpispetewilson says:

    There certainly is a moron here but it’s not who you’re referring to …

  103. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #95 & #101
    You have your wish! Amash is toast and he knows it. He will run as an Independent for President to diminish Trump’s 2020 chances in Michigan.

    https://twitter.com/RepJimLower/status/1129901705464832001?s=20

  104. dblaikie says:

    First Amash has to win the libertarian nomination, which is very possible but hardly a certainty. But even if he does I would wager he won’t get anymore votes in Michigan than Johnson got in 2016 (172,000).

    Good way to destroy a career.

  105. Wes says:

    I went to RRH to see what their “Republicans” had to say about Amash. One of the Napoleons running the site posted this Stalinesque statement on the first page:

    Be warned Sunday night Game of Throne spoilers will get you banned! Please check out our

  106. Wes says:

    Amash may run for President as an Indy, but I think he’s more likely just to leave electoral politics altogether after next year’s primary.

  107. Tina says:

    Jack Murphy
    @RealJack
    ·
    10h
    Did you know:

    Justin Amash was the only Republican in the House to vote against Kate’s Law. He also voted against the No Sanctuary For Criminals Act.

    Justin Amash supports illegal immigrant criminals more than the American people.

    Justin Amash is a disgrace to all Americans.

  108. Phil says:

    Amash? Never heard of him. Well, he’s about to be CNN’s new daily guest. Hey, they’ve been searching for a replacement for Michael Avenatti. Can’t use the porn lawyer any longer so look for Amash to be the nightly replacement. This guy is perfect. Look for this guy to be on Colbert and a guest spot on the View this week as well. Chris Mathews to hail this clown as the next profile in courage. So predictable.

  109. Phil says:

    Romney calls Amash “courageous”

    Good God.

  110. Phil says:

    BTW, who do I see to get the $600 back that I contributed to Romney’s 2012 campaign?

  111. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    55m
    Never a fan of
    @justinamash
    , a total lightweight who opposes me and some of our great Republican ideas and policies just for the sake of getting his name out there through controversy. If he actually read the biased Mueller Report, “composed” by 18 Angry Dems who hated Trump,….

    ….he would see that it was nevertheless strong on NO COLLUSION and, ultimately, NO OBSTRUCTION…Anyway, how do you Obstruct when there is no crime and, in fact, the crimes were committed by the other side? Justin is a loser who sadly plays right into our opponents hands!

  112. Tina says:

    Rep. McCarthy: on (Asquish aka Amash

    He wants to have attention… He votes more with Nancy Pelosi than he ever votes with me. It’s a question of whether he is even in our Republican conference as a whole… He wants a Sunday show to put his name forward with a question.

  113. lisab says:

    Biden rejects Democrats’ anger in call for national unity
    —————-

    he thinks he has the nomination

  114. lisab says:

    Calvin Klein is apologizing after the fashion label came under fire for a video campaign showing model Bella Hadid kissing female robot Lil Miquela.

    The 30-second ad drew backlash since Hadid identifies as heterosexual, with critics commenting, “There are plenty of real LGBTQ Models that could have been used.”

  115. Wes says:

    He’s probably right, Lisa. The Dems tapping directly into the bellicose #Resist rhetoric have all fallen back because they’re strictly reactionary and give no tangible reason to support them. Meanwhile, Biden understands the best way to beat Trump is to give people a reason not only to vote against Trump but to vote for Biden.

    Negative campaigning does work but backfires in most instances when not accompanied by any kind of positive attributes for a candidate.

    See Nelson-Hagel 1996 as an example.

    That year, Nelson started with a wide lead over Hagel. When the then-Governor realized Hagel was giving him a real race and campaigning hard for the seat Nelson dropped virtually all positive spots and went all in on attacking his opponent. This played right into Hagel’s hands he highlighted how Nelson was betraying a 1994 campaign promise not to seek a Senate seat and was trying to disqualify his opponent rather than give reasons why Nebraskans should put Nelson in the Senate. Hagel ultimately won 56-42.

    Similarly in 1980, Jimmy Carter went full negative on Ronald Reagan, who responded by highlighting Carter’s deficiencies in the White House and promised to improve Americans’ lives. Reagan won in a landslide, beating Carter in the Electoral College worse than Roosevelt had beaten Hoover.

    Biden is a savvy pol who relishes campaigning. That’s why the predictions on here that Trump will outwork him and have little problem beating him are divorced from reality. Both Biden and Trump have their flaws, but each has been successful by appealing to broad swaths of the electorate other candidates ignore. With Trump mired in the political danger zone for incumbents, Biden has a greater chance of flipping voters to him than Trump has of managing to hang on to enough voters to replicate 2016.

  116. Tgca says:

    In my view, Amash is trying to capitalize and get some name recognition. He will be invited to lefty talk shows soon…just wait. CNN is already covering it as BIG news.

    So I guess he’s tired of being a CongressCritter so I expect he will be primaried and use that as an opportunity to shop around a consultant gig with CNN, MSNBC, or other lefty outlets.

    Notice how he offers no examples of How Trump or Barr are guilty of his accusations. He just refers to a one-sided report that if presented in a court of law would be shot full of holes, especially where much of the accusations are based on well-known Trump behavior and tweets.

    The TDS is amazing. Most folks will not notice this except for the extreme NeverTrumpers who will hang on every word as Gospel like they did with Avenatti and others.

    By the way, how come CNN does not have Avenatti on as a regular guest anymore? Hmm…

  117. lisab says:

    turns out, Amash owns a company in china

  118. Wes says:

    Amash has always been a fringe loon. He’s a contrarian just for the sake of it rather than out of any genuine principle. I’ll be glad when he’s gone from Congress.

  119. Tina says:

    Yikes, no wonder asqusih and the chamber of commerce cons are throwing up bs:

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/05/19/gowdy-papadopoulos-transcripts/

  120. Tina says:

    Remember, gop-e does not want an investigation into the predicate for the Russian hoax.

    Some of them likely knew it was bs well in advance, but carried on the scam.

  121. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) endorsed President Trump’s move to further tax Chinese goods, calling it “essential to keep China from continuing to kill our jobs.”

    “The Chinese don’t write checks to the American treasury. We’re paying for the cost of the tariff. But it’s a sacrifice, I think, which is essential to keep China from continuing to kill our jobs and kill our businesses and employ people.”
    — Romney told CNN’s Jake Tapper

    The other side: Romney called going after Mexico, Canada and the European Union for steel and aluminum tariffs a bad idea. “All the focus ought to be on China,” he said.”

    Quote from Axios

  122. lisab says:

    china is not the only game in town

    in fact they are not usually the low cost provider anymore

    other countries will start filling orders, especially if it goes on a long time

    which will be very bad for china. if a company finds a quality partner in vietnam, they likely wont switch back to china.

  123. mnw says:

    Oh, wow!

    Sharks meltdown in San Hose-A!

    Play “Gloria” again!

  124. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    127. Agree. The Chinese have always thought they could get there way regardless. A prime example is how they got themselves exempted from the Paris Climate Treaty. Exempting the nation that produced the most CO2 emissions made a mockery of the claim that there was a climate emergency. It also gave them a major competitive advantage.

  125. Bitterlaw says:

    Bold Prediction- All the fans of Game of Thrones will find something to bitch about tonight.

  126. janz says:

    “Donald Trump has distanced himself from humanity’s best qualities.” Or so says Mitt Romney on today’s Sunday show. He also doesn’t seem inclined to either endorse nor vote for him in the next election.

    What a small minded man Romney has shown himself to be.

  127. mnw says:

    Saint Mitt…patron saint of vulture capitalists.

    Someone needs to insert a serving FORK in his sanctimonious, holier-than-thou hindquarters.

    “He was too good for this mean old world. And so, I sent him to a better one.” (Rich. III)

  128. Tina says:

    Quittens is an arsehole.

    Huge downgrade compared to Hatch.

    One is a statesman and the other is a shady, used car salesperson,

  129. Tina says:

    Breaking, Jebots crushed again:

    Stormy Daniels, the jebots fantasy, now admits that there was no sexual affair with trump,

    https://nypost.com/2018/01/30/stormy-daniels-now-denies-ever-having-an-affair-with-trump/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons

  130. Tina says:

    Well looks like an error from Schweikart, he tweeted this today, but the article is from 1/18. Disregard the last post,

    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    1h
    Porn star: I didn't have sex with Trump (link: https://nypost.com/2018/01/30/stormy-daniels-now-denies-ever-having-an-affair-with-trump/?utm_source=twitter_sitebuttons&utm_medium=site%20buttons&utm_campaign=site%20buttons) nypost.com/2018/01/30/sto… via
    @nypost

    Too bad Prorny, you still are gonna owe Trump a ton of money.

  131. Bitterlaw says:

    Romney is right. Trump is scum. I am still glad he beat Hillary.

    I can handle complex thoughts like that. No need to kiss Trump’s ass. Romney almost always votes for the GOP.

    The irony is that Tina was not always s fan of Hatch.

  132. Phil says:

    Mitt,

    Kindly just STFU already. You don’t like Donald Trump. We get it. We got it the last time you popped off, the time before that, and the time before that……. Kindly just go away.

  133. Tina says:

    Yes, go away, Quittens, along with your dog and your station wagon.

    In all seriousness, the obumbler must have something on him,

  134. Florida Guy says:

    You guys seem to forget Trump is at his most dangerous in the final 60 days of an election. Ask Ted Cruz how his 60 days out from May 3 in Indiana went.

    Trump was getting pounded in the MSM from the end of the GOP convention to Election Day, with many here doubting he would win.

    Then truth happened: You only need to win states, not the national PV.

    You also have to take into account the “Shy Tory” factor in polls.

    And as we saw in Florida 2018 and Indiana 2018, Trump’s GOP has PHENOMENAL power outside of the cities, especially in GOP strongholds and exurbs and rural areas.

    Fasten your seat belts, yo.

    FG

  135. Tgca says:

    The Dems are just crazy. An illegal alien rapes a dog that ends in its death and he gets 60 days in jail and they release him without contacting ICE because it’s a sanctuary state. I hope this scum dies the most horrible and lengthy painful death.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/05/19/illegal-alien-convicted-raping-dog-death-released-sanctuary-state/

  136. Bitterlaw says:

    IF (I said if) Trump pursues military action against Iran would Tina denounce him as part of the GOP Establishment?

  137. Tina says:

    Can we get an updated post for the Biden Tariffs Report?

    Bl,is boring me.

  138. Paul says:

    Looks like Trump will win in 2020. The only thing that would stop him would be a trade war and a bunch of nutty draconian abortion laws heading for the Supreme Court.

  139. Wes says:

    For those who think Trump is a political genius, his team is hoping John James WILL NOT challenge Gary Peters for Senate because Dems would then more heavily contest MI next fall—as if the Dems won’t heavily contest the state anyway.

    Here’s my alternate view: Why would Republicans not also contest MI heavily with a dynamic candidate like James running against a milquetoast backbencher like Peters?

    This is the kind of divorced-from-reality inside baseball thinking I see promulgated on here. James outperformed all expectations last year in a dismal environment when the MIGOP was wiped out—largely because of antipathy toward Trump. Having James barnstorm the state to get his vote out can only help Trump in a state Trump knows Biden is leading him in. Naturally the Trump crew wants to let Peters have a cakewalk while Trump has no strong ally trying to gin up his turnout.

    It’s just maddening and reflective of why I see small chance Trump wins next year.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/20/trump-2020-rust-belt-joe-biden-1332973

  140. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina is bored when I point out her clownish free passes for Trump? Got it.

    Maybe she should spend more time bitching about Dave posting polls she does not like and posters pointing out that that Trump is an AFL-CIO puppet on trade.

  141. Tina says:

    You defending the Rino of the day is boring.

    Bitterlaw says:
    May 20, 2019 at 10:38 am
    Tina is bored when I point out her clownish free passes for Trump? Got it.

    Maybe she should spend more time bitching about Dave posting polls she does not like and posters pointing out that that Trump is an AFL-CIO puppet on trade.

  142. Tina says:

    And most importantly, we really need a new post from the sa of the Biden Tariffs Report.

  143. Wes says:

    This is a post I had to laugh at from RRH obviously written by a Trump acolyte:

    RAYINMA
    May 20, 2019 at 10:02 am | In reply to Stephen Maturin
    It’s conceivable that the strong-on-paper Senate recruiting in 2012 ended up hurting Romney for that reason. In this case there’s the added wrinkle that if James is planning to run again on a pre-Trump GOPe platform, that takes things pretty badly off message in a direction that is a many times proven loser in MI.

    Strong on paper?

    Josh Mandel in OH trailed from beginning to end.

    Dick Mourdock and Todd Akin were second-tier candidates who disqualified themselves.

    Mack IV expected to be coronated Senator.

    Scott Brown fought valiantly but was ultimately doomed by the lean of the state.

    Heather Wilson was down the whole time but exceeded expectations because Dems had an overrated candidate.

    George Allen had willfully ended his own political career six years earlier.

    Once Olympia Snowe retired, ME went the way of the dodo.

    Only Rick Berg, Denny Rehberg, and Tommy Thompson were considered top-tier recruits. All lost, the first two because their opponents aggressively defined them and the last because the Deadenders forced a bloody primary.

    NE—the only state the GOP flipped—was one the Republicans won because Ben Nelson had made winning the seat an impossibility for his party.

    Thinking strong GOP Senate candidate’s will hurt a sitting President’s re-election bid is simply ludicrous.

  144. Tina says:

    This seems like a good idea by the Ca nut running for President- fine companies that pay men more than women.

    https://t.co/2unslu4X7w

  145. Phil says:

    Pretty much agree with Wes’ view that Trump faces a real uphill fight vs Biden. I don’t think he wins that one.

    A race vs a Kamala Harris or any of the other Democratic loons? Totally different ballgame. Totally.

    I guess what I am saying is that the whole ball game will be determined by whether or not Biden wins the nomination. A Kamala Harris type isn’t winning the Midwest IMO and she’s no threat in extending the battlefield to states like Georgia and Arizona. She also isn’t winning NC or Florida. It would take the economy really collapsing for a Spartacus, Harris type to win. I think we have another couple of cycles of changing demographics before the election of a leftist loon becomes inevitable.

  146. lisab says:

    biden is no obama, and i doubt as good as hillary.

  147. jason says:

    You guys seem to forget Trump is at his most dangerous in the final 60 days of an election.”

    To himself or to his opponents?

  148. Robbie says:

    Drive-by. It’s been a while.

    I thought the finale to Game of Thrones was absolutely terrible. I didn’t think the best show in TV history could be undone in its last few episodes, but it was. In my mind, the two showrunners gave up on Thrones once they got their Star Wars contract.

    Daenerys (my favorite) went from flawed heroine to Hitler in one episode just so she could be killed in the finale for shock value. It was an undignified end to a character that became iconic. Maybe the destination was fine, but the rushed route they took was awful to watch.

    It’s hard to believe a show that produced “The Battle of the Bastards” and “The Winds of Winter” back-to-back to end season 6 could produce a finale that was so lacking in every way. Yet, that’s what happens when the storytelling stops and it becomes all about shock value.

    Essentially, nothing in the first seven seasons mattered to the outcome. Jon Snow’s parentage, his resurrection, the night king, all those Daenerys freed in Essos, none of it mattered. Jon Snow’s love affair with Daenerys was nothing more than a plot tool to aid in driving her crazy.

    Based on the last two episodes, I had low expectations, but the finale didn’t even live up to them. So now I guess Arya is the new Christopher Columbus sailing west for the new world and Jon’s right back where he started at the Night’s watch. What a joke.

  149. janz says:

    I agree with Wes about the erroneous thinking dealing with a James candidacy. James is a powerful political newcomer, who can only add to garnering more conservative voters to the polls. Thinking otherwise is foolish.

    However, I don’t necessarily support the claim that Biden can beat Trump – hands down. With all the baggage Biden carries, most of which has not been belabored yet by naysayers, I see his road to any victory being filled with numerous potholes. Even my liberal son scoffs @ Biden’s presidential chances. He, similar to his millennial friends, highly disrespect Biden.

    Also, when one combines Biden’s proclivity for malapropism with his China and Ukrainian high jinx, there will be a lot of corruption and distasteful behavior revealed that may override his appeal to moderate voters.

  150. jason says:

    Amash is a Paulbot.

    That is all you need to know.

    Romney is an MSM sycophant scumbag.

    That is all you need to know.

  151. lisab says:

    will biden pull in as great a percentage of african americans as obama?

    will he pull in as great a percentage of women?

    will he pull in as many of the young?

    i don’t think so.

  152. jason says:

    I agree with wes on James.

    On Biden, not so much.

    He looks good on paper, and he is the best the Dems have. His BS “tack to the middle” will definitely be a plus for him, so is the “return to normalcy” pitch.

    But he is old and has a lot of baggage, not all of it out either. His potential to self destruct is huge.

    He could well be the Jeb Bush of the Democrats. Time will tell.

  153. jason says:

    Biden will get less of the AA vote than Obama, and Trump will get more of it than Romney.

    The problem is Biden might get more of the white vote than Obama did.

  154. lisab says:

    unfortunately for biden,

    he does not inspire young whites

    and his hair sniffing, won’t win him many white women

    i suppose the right vp could help

  155. Tina says:

    Jebots will cry…

    Ned Ryun
    @nedryun
    ·
    4h
    “For the first time, [Comey, Clapper, Brennan] are pointing fingers at one another, because they have come to realize that their prior criminality may not be rewarded, praised, or even excused, but rather prosecuted.” (link: https://amgreatness.com/2019/05/19/he-did-it-not-me/) amgreatness.com/2019/05/19/he-… #MAGA #tcot

  156. Tina says:

    Lol

    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    ·
    1h
    Never Trumpers can no longer even tell you why they’re Never Trump.

    In reality, they’re just in too deep to their open borders donors who will collect at rates that make loan sharks look like charities.

  157. Tina says:

    Bulwark is the next gop-e publication to collapse.

    Charlie Hillary Sykes = failure.

  158. lisab says:

    i think comey may go to prison

    no one likes him on either side,

    and i don’t think he has dirt on anyone.

    he is the perfect fall guy.

  159. mnw says:

    What Amash did was tantamount to announcing he would not run again.

    He has only ONE hope– that like McPain, he draws 3-4 credible primary opponents, & they all hang in there until Amash can win the GOP primary– with a plurality.

  160. Wes says:

    jason says:
    May 20, 2019 at 12:12 pm
    I agree with wes on James.

    On Biden, not so much.

    He looks good on paper, and he is the best the Dems have. His BS “tack to the middle” will definitely be a plus for him, so is the “return to normalcy” pitch.

    But he is old and has a lot of baggage, not all of it out either. His potential to self destruct is huge.

    He could well be the Jeb Bush of the Democrats. Time will tell.

    Jason, ever since I heard about Biden circa 1994 and started following Senate politics, I’ve been hoping he would self-destruct. He was a far less influential and important than Bill Roth, his longtime colleague. Unfortunately despite his shortcomings, he has the same kind of appeal to blue-collar workers Trump has and has never lost a general election—even when DE was a GOP-leaning state in the 1970s and 1980s.

    He knows how to campaign and has never made a campaign-killing mistake. Hoping for a meltdown is likely to be an unfulfilled wish. As for age, Trump is nearly as old as Biden. Age is unlikely to be a factor as it was for Bob Dole in 1996.

    What is tangible is that Trump is an unpopular President whose own polling says Biden leads him in key states. That’s not an insubstantial factor in this race. Trump will have to drive Biden’s negatives up—that will not help Trump’s favorable.

    Thus, we have an unpopular President facing off with a seasoned pol who’s already weathered a potentially devastating bout of credible #MeToo accusations. Unless something significantly worse surfaces Trump will have a hard time fending off Biden.

  161. janz says:

    #160 Lisab, if Biden gets the dem nomination a lot of young people will not vote for the democrats. Like you said, he doesn’t inspire them, as they see nothing but the same old, same old type of politics from a same old, same old type of politician.

  162. Wes says:

    People told me Obama didn’t inspire voters either in 2008 and would lose almost as badly to McCain as Mondale had lost to Reagan, Jane. (Remember the multiple 39% predictions?)

    That didn’t work out too well.

    Of course if Trump had spent his time in office building himself up and increasing his standing with voters he would have little to worry about in the upcoming elections. Alas, it was not to be.

  163. janz says:

    Wes, polls have not always proven to be trustworthy, either here or abroad. I certainly don’t see Trump’s candidacy as a shoo-in. However, I also don’t count him nor the size of his support out, nixing his ability to win the 2020 election. Plus, there is a lot of time for circumstances, for or against his chances, to wildly change.

  164. Phil says:

    Trump has to hope Something happens and Biden doesn’t get nominated. If Biden loses the nomination I’m not worried terribly much by any of the other loons.

  165. dblaikie says:

    Wes again, yes again, the way to increase your standing with voters is by governing in a way that the country moves forward. The main way to do that is through the economy which is booming right now. To count Trump out right now in the midst of a vibrant economy just doesn’t make sense. As I said in an earlier observation from the Brooking Institution in the modern political era no incumbent has lost in the midst of a good economy.

    Since the midterms times have changed and so has the political climate. It will change again and again. But with a strong economy, despite his unpopularity on the coast and in Great Lakes Metro areas, I like Trump’s chances.

  166. lisab says:

    People told me Obama didn’t inspire voters either in 2008
    —————

    those people were foolish

    obama was young, black and a great speaker.

    now granted, it got old after years of hope and change and nothing changed other than my healthcare getting worse

    but he was a good speaker in front of a teleprompter

    biden is no obama

  167. lisab says:

    there is just no way biden can match the excitement of obama.

    a big question is, can biden match hillary?

    that maybe he can do.

    he won’t be the first woman president, so he does not have that, but hillary was shrill at times.

    and

    the dems will have a gotv machine long after the polls have closed, so they have that too

    but if biden cannot match what hillary did in 2016, i don’t think they can steal the election. he needs 65 million+ votes

    if he pulls in 60 million, he loses

  168. NYCmike says:

    “What a joke.”

    -Was Robbie speaking about GoT, or the JEB!2016 campaign?

    The TRUTH may finally be seeping through the thick skull!

  169. NYCmike says:

    “People told me Obama didn’t inspire voters either in 2008.”

    -Which people said such a thing?

    I know most on HHR were simply flabbergasted that such an empty suit could actually be an inspiration to such a large group of people.

  170. mnw says:

    RAS is 44/54 & -12 today.

    Clearly this was not noise.

  171. NYCmike says:

    As seen on Instapundit.com:

    “I THINK OF AMASH AS THE LIBERTARIANS’ VERSION OF JOHN MCCAIN: Justin Amash’s last stand. He’s always ready to stand selflessly for principle, so long as it gets him good press.”

    HEH!

  172. NYCmike says:

    Speaking of Amash, I am gleefully waiting for Robbie and “CG” to speak kindly of him. In the past, they usually have had bad things to say.

  173. NYCmike says:

    “Unfreedom of the Press” is out today………jason, I’ll send you a Hillary mug if you buy a copy.

  174. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    166. “Thus, we have an unpopular President facing off with a seasoned pol who’s already weathered a potentially devastating bout of credible #MeToo accusations. Unless something significantly worse surfaces Trump will have a hard time fending off Biden.”

    I agree with Wes’s statement.

  175. Wes says:

    Howard Dean (The poster, not the former Governor) comes to mind, Mikey.

    There were others too whose names I have forgotten since they’ve probably long since disappeared.

    It was a never ending parade of self-serving foolishness saying Obama was a weak candidate, didn’t inspire voters, would top out at 39% of the vote, would never top 60 million votes, et al.

    Reality was much different.

  176. Wes says:

    DB, as I’ve noted previously Trump is perpetually stuck in the danger zone for incumbents.

    List for me any Presidents who’ve won re-election while mired where Trump has been for the duration of his presidency.

  177. Wes says:

    Wes, polls have not always proven to be trustworthy, either here or abroad.

    I must be in a time warp.

    This is a variant of another statement I saw in 2008 to explain how McCain would beat Obama.

  178. Tina says:

    Still no new post from the Biden Tariffs Report,

    Seems like it is a return to the several days old post,

  179. Tina says:

    Trump rally tonight in Montoursville, Pa.

    Thousands already lined up.

  180. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    At this point in time, I would not even want to guess at who would win in 2020 in a race between Trump and Biden. If it is Trump against any of the other Democratic candidates, believe Trump is a clear favorite.

  181. Tina says:

    Is this Amush a lawyah?

    A misdemeanor is a crime, dumbarse.

    You cannot impeach because you feel like it,

    Byron York
    @ByronYork
    ·
    26m
    Amash explains his impeachment position: 1) Don’t need an underlying crime to commit obstruction. 2) There were underlying crimes, and maybe Trump knew about them — who knows? 3) Don’t need a crime to impeach anyway.

  182. Tina says:

    High crimes and misdemeanors.

    Both are crimes,

    Asqusih or Amush needs to rethink point #3

  183. Tina says:

    Amush seems like a loon.

    None of his points are valid and would appear to run against the constitution.

  184. Tina says:

    Can Amush even explain what the underlying crimes were?

    I mean no collusion, no obstruction, no sheot,

  185. Wes says:

    Amash is a self-serving lunatic. I don’t think he merits a million posts though as no other Republicans have taken up his cause.

  186. Tina says:

    Amush has co oped the Drat House agenda. Led by Mullah Ohmar, piglosi, the ny blob, the banking idiot, ayataollah talipia, and others…

    Impeach for winning the 2016 Election over Jebots Hillary.

    Byron York
    @ByronYork
    ·
    32m
    Always been an option.
    Quote Tweet

    Cru Jones – CPA
    @CruJones12
    · 33m
    Replying to @ByronYork
    Then let’s impeach him if no crime is needed

  187. Tina says:

    Wh tells the house drats to pound sand,

    Mcgahn cannot testify, as a former executive per letter from doj to wh counsel,

    https://gallery.mailchimp.com/c97630621baff8c44fe607661/files/d9dcef8f-0bf9-49d2-9c14-ea84355b01ef/McGahn_Opinion_5_20_19_FINAL_002_..01.pdf

  188. lisab says:

    trump may not have been the only candidate the fbi was spying on

    Anthony Shaffer, speaking to congress

  189. lisab says:

    what was the best part of game of thrones?

    8 years

    73 episodes

    over 72 hours and 16 minutes?

    answer: robbie hated the ending

    made my day 🙂

  190. Wes says:

    The guy who finished second in ME-2 but still won won’t challenge Susan Collins. He even essentially inoculates Collins against Dem attacks by saying he “respects her.”

    On paper, Collins should be nearly as vulnerable as Cory Gardner.

    In reality, Dems have no candidate willing to challenge her. Meanwhile, in CO, Dems have B- and C-list candidates lining up against Gardner. At the same time, the NRSC has had exactly one major recruitment fail, though it’s a stinging one: NH.

    With that, I’ll post my updated Senate and gubernatorial rankings.

  191. Tina says:

    I like Gardner in Colorado.

  192. Tina says:

    Last post on asquish or Amush:

    FOLLOW DA MONEY.

  193. Wes says:

    Solid R Hold-

    AK
    ID
    MT
    WY
    SD
    NE
    OK
    TX
    AR
    LA
    KY
    TN
    MS
    SC
    WV
    ME

    Likely R Hold-

    KS
    IA
    GA
    NC

    Likely R Pickup-

    AL

    Tossup-

    AZ
    CO

    Likely D Hold-

    NM
    MI
    VA

    Solid D Hold-

    OR
    MN
    IL
    DE
    NJ
    RI
    MA
    NH

  194. Wes says:

    Solid R Hold-

    UT
    ND
    IN

    Likely R Hold-

    WV
    VT
    NH

    Tossup-

    MT
    LA
    MS
    KY
    NC

    Solid D Hold-

    WA
    DE

  195. Wes says:

    I accidentally skipped MO in the previous comment and am adding it here:

    Solid R Hold-

    UT
    ND
    MO
    IN

    Likely R Hold-

    WV
    VT
    NH

    Tossup-

    MT
    LA
    MS
    KY
    NC

    Solid D Hold-

    WA
    DE

  196. lisab says:

    hawaiian judge orders release of 8 years of trump’s financial records

  197. Cash Cow TM says:

    MONKEY NEWS!
    ***********************
    DRUDGE

    “Monkey moms set up sons with sex partners…”

    That is all…for now.

  198. Wes says:

    Apparently Kris Kobach thinks losing the governorship of a GOP-heavy state to a liberal opponent who had a split vote and lost three of four congressional districts makes him Czar of Russia:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/yashar/status/1130597356406214656?s=19

    What a diva. No wonder he lost last year.

  199. Waingro says:

    Mark Levin to have the guy planning to primary Justin Amash on in a little bit.

    Good. He needs to go. He has proven to be a Paulbot kook, and is doing far more harm than good with this grandstanding.

  200. Waingro says:

    Wes, I assume #200 is Senate races and #201/203 is for Governor races?

  201. Wes says:

    Yes, Wain.

    Since there are only three gubernatorial races this year I lumped all the 2019/2020 Governor elections together in one post.

  202. Tina says:

    Wes, the private plane is just only a little over the top, lol.

    Not good gubment btw.

  203. Waingro says:

    #210, thanks. That’s what I figured.

  204. SusyQue says:

    Such a great Church service today. Please remember. The Moslims are here to conquer America…not to assimilate! They said it themselves that they will infiltrate and then destroy from the inside. Please don’t vote for any more Moslims!

  205. SusyQue says:

    God Bless America God bless the One President Trump and his family God bless VP Pence and his family. And God bless us all! In Jesus name.

  206. Bitterlaw says:

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/conservative-scotus-justices-kavanaugh-and-gorsuch-disagreed-on-three-decisions-in-one-day/

    Tina hardest hit. Trump is a RINO with squishy SCOTUS picks.

    Actually, the issues were pretty narrow and primarily came down to backing Federal over state law.

  207. Tina says:

    Amush condemned

    The Hill
    @thehill
    · 55m
    JUST IN: House Freedom Caucus votes to condemn Justin Amash over Trump impeachment call (link: http://hill.cm/p8Kvn3W) hill.cm/p8Kvn3W

  208. jason says:

    The Moslims are here to conquer America”

    Zzzzzzz.. I am worried about the Walkers myself.

  209. jason says:

    Trump is nearly as old as Biden”

    Huh, no. Biden will be 77 before Trump is 73.

    Imagine right now if Trump was 77, the MSM would be making him older than Methuselah.

    So actually the age issue helps Trump somewhat, but still hurts Biden.

    “who’s already weathered a potentially devastating bout of credible #MeToo accusations.”

    He hasn’t weathered them, they are going to surface later again. And we probably have not seen even the tip of the iceberg.

    “Unfortunately despite his shortcomings, he has the same kind of appeal to blue-collar workers”

    Yes, this is true and it is really the only thing that Biden has going for him that could define the election if he is the nominee.

    If Biden can really pull back the blue collar vote that helped Trump win in PA, WI and MI, Trump is screwed.

    Somehow Trump’s campaign will have to find a way to discredit Biden in this voter segment.

  210. jason says:

    Biden is also not a very good debater. He didn’t do particularly well against Palin when he was expected to destroy her, and according to the CNN post debate poll he narrowly lost 44-48 to Ryan (although in the “likability” question Ryan beat him handily).

    He might not do very well in the Dem primary debates if he goes into the attack dog mode he tried to use against Ryan.

  211. jason says:

    Whoops..

    “Loretta Lynch accuses Comey of misrepresenting key Clinton probe conversation, was ‘quite surprised’ by his testimony

    Former Attorney General Loretta Lynch has flatly accused former FBI Director James Comey of mischaracterizing her remarks by claiming that Lynch told him to call the Hillary Clinton email probe a “matter” instead of an “investigation” — in the latest public dispute to break out among high-level ex-Obama administration officials.”

  212. jason says:

    Amazing… 56% of Americans have better things to do than rehash the Mueller Report.

    “Fewer than half of registered voters say special counsel Robert Mueller should testify before Congress to discuss his report on Russian election interference, according to a new poll.

    In a Hill-HarrisX survey released Monday, 42 percent of respondents said they were interested in hearing more from Mueller by having him testify before Congress. Thirty-six percent said Congress should move on to other issues, while 23 percent said they don’t care about the Mueller report.”

  213. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/who-won-the-vp-debate-why-the-polls-were-so-different/

    “According to the CBS poll, Biden delivered a decisive victory, with 50 percent of respondents electing him as the winner and 31 choosing Ryan.

    CNN’s poll, however, showed a much closer contest — with Ryan leading by four points, at 48 percent to Biden’s 44 percent.

    The CBS News Poll interviewed uncommitted voters who watched the debate -voters who are undecided in this election or pick a candidate but say they could change their minds.”

    Uncommitted voters represent about 15 to 20 percent of the electorate and are potentially up for grabs, according to De Pinto, as most do not align themselves with a political party. In fact, more than half identify as independents.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_United_States_presidential_debates#October_2:_Vice_presidential_debate_(Washington_University_in_St._Louis)

    “CNN polls found Biden won 51 to 36 …

    According to a poll of uncommitted voters conducted immediately after the debate by CBS News and Knowledge Networks, 46% thought Senator Biden won the debate, 21% thought Governor Palin had won, and 33% thought it was a tie.[50] Fox News Channel held a poll regarding the performance of each candidate, with 51% of the votes in favor of Biden, and 39% in favor of Palin.[51] The Opinion Research Corporation’s poll on the debate revealed that 51% of viewers felt Biden had won, while 36% were in favor of Palin. In the same poll, 87% said Biden was capable of fulfilling the duties of the vice presidency, while 42% said Palin was capable.”

    ***************************************

    One of many lies spot checked and easily disproven by a simple google search.

    But carry on in the echo chamber.

  214. lisab says:

    CNN’s poll, however, showed a much closer contest — with Ryan leading by four points, at 48 percent to Biden’s 44 percent.
    ———————————

    sooooooooooo … the heavily pro-democrat cnn found that ryan won?

    i think you proved jason’s point

    seriously, cnn is now pravda

  215. lisab says:

    biden is not a good debater,

    he is mean

    so, he might do ok against a bully like trump.

    ryan KILLED him on being respectful and nice, but biden was a bully.

    trump vs. biden? idk. but trump is funny, biden is not.

  216. lisab says:

    comey is dead meat.

    he is the obvious fall guy

    both sides hate him

    and he is an idiot

  217. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Biden basically filibustered the debate with Ryan by interrupting Ryan and continually talking. Trump is not going to let that happen. Trump will make himself the center of attention, and probably blast Biden with some of his scathing put downs. Am not sure Biden is adept enough to counter Trump’s abrasive style.

  218. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mwn
    FWIW:

    “Bill Mitchell tweeted today that Rasmussen has changed its polling model to be more in line with other pollsters.

    Wish they would keep the former system.

    Such a dramatic drop on the heretofore most favorable gauge of support is alarming.” (H/T: Free Republic)

  219. Bitterlaw says:

    It is Primary Day in PA!

  220. Tina says:

    Turley slams house ds. Folks are just tired of the Mulehead report. Notice how the drats witnesses stepped all over their message.

    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/444382-democrats-are-running-out-of-stunts-to-pull-from-impeachment-playbook#.XOM8pcORif4.twitter

  221. Tina says:

    I did not realize thst Scott Rasmussen does his own polling, separate from his former company.

    https://scottrasmussen.com/trump-likely-to-win-in-2020/

  222. Tina says:

    Well in the first battle of PA, Biden loses, aka the rallies.

    2000 attendees for Gaffe vs 10000 attendees for trump.

    I am sure the sa will have a post on this for the Biden Tariffs Report.

  223. Tina says:

    Folks, you should check out Human Events. Great writing.

    Better than the ex writers at the Weekly Socialist and many of the writers at National Retrest Online,

    A link is here:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/HumanEvents

  224. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    From Chad Pergram at FOX News:

    “From a senior House Democrat who has their finger on the pulse of the Democratic Caucus. The lawmaker, who asked that they not be identified, tells Fox that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) “isn’t going to be able to hold off on impeachment much longer. It is coming to a head.”

    Pelosi and other Democrats are about to reap the whirlwind that she and they created. If they go forward, bet that the House will return to GOP hands in 2020. POPCORN!!!

  225. Bitterlaw says:

    When is Tina going to post a link to her blog where nobody is allowed to discuss Trump’s tax increase (a/k/a tariffs) and she only posts polls where Trump is leading?

  226. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Trump reverses his 5 day skid on Rasmussen(less). 46% approval today; up from 44% yesterday.

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/prez_track_may21

  227. mnw says:

    Sheep

    Standing pat on need for “conditioning coach”?

    Looked to me like the other guys needed one.

  228. janz says:

    There is plenty of bad, snarky news available and going around about Trump. Tina’s posts offer a contrasting newsfeed, resulting in somewhat of a counterbalance to everyday politics. Thanks for your input Tina!

  229. Big Joe says:

    I did enjoy Joe Biden’s debate performance against his friend, the Congressman. He loves his friend.

    Big Joe

  230. DW says:

    Another rough day ahead for Democrats.

    1) 10,000+ babies will be born in the USA today instead of being killed.

    2) The babies will be boys or girls.

    3) The planet continues to defy the orders of Al Gore and other climate change doomsday forecasters.

    4) AOC continues to speak openly about the Democratic Party agenda, much like Transparent Dem Troll speaks freely on HHR.

  231. jason says:

    One of many lies spot checked and easily disproven by a simple google search.

    But carry on in the echo chamber.”

    LOL, Petewilson has to be the dumbest troll here, and the competition is fierce.

    Here is what I said:

    “and according to the CNN post debate poll he narrowly lost 44-48 to Ryan (although in the “likability” question Ryan beat him handily).”

    Here is what the stupid troll said:

    “CNN’s poll, however, showed a much closer contest — with Ryan leading by four points, at 48 percent to Biden’s 44 percent.”

    Where is the lie, moron?

  232. jason says:

    It’s primary day in PA!

    I no longer vote in the primary, but for anyone interested all the Republicans in my area who win today will win in November.

    Well, maybe not Superior Court judges. I recommend Cristylee Peck and Megan McCarthy King. Rebecca Warren is the most pro-gun of the three but also the least qualified.

  233. dblaikie says:

    233 They just can’t help destroying themselves. Trump Derangement Syndrome is the powerful antidote to Trumps own imperfections!

  234. mnw says:

    A regular poster REALLY wants to engage with TIPW?!? I mean…TIPW?

  235. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    It’s over in Australia. The conservative groups have a majority of 1 seat with 4 contests too close to call. The conservative candidates are ahead in 2 of the 4 remaining seats.

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-21/abc-computer-election-results-confirm-majority-government/11136134

  236. mnw says:

    Sheep

    ? Blues? Worn out? Or full of vim, vigor & vitality?

  237. NYCmike says:

    mnw,

    4 GAMES!

    Don’t jump ahead of yourself!

    The Sharks may get their own wake-up call after the lambasting they got the other day.

  238. mnw says:

    Mike

    Karlson & Hertl are OUT, & Pavelski is “a game time decision.”

    I was just kidding Sheep because he suggested the Bs needed a new & better ‘conditioning coach,’ after they looked exhausted in the last two periods of Game 4.

  239. mnw says:

    Karlsson

  240. DW says:

    According to Gallup poll, 4 in 10 Americans would rather give up their wealth and opportunity, and instead live in hopeless poverty, receive crumbs from a hapless government, and give up all their protected freedoms.

  241. NYCmike says:

    Yes, I saw that comment.

    I did not know about Karlsson, Hertl and Pavelski.

  242. DW says:

    Here are the current RCP standings for the 24 communists who wish to take away the rest of your wealth, health, and freedoms:

    Biden 37.6
    Sanders 18.2
    Warren 9.6
    Harris 7.4
    Buttigieg 6.6
    O’Rourke 3.2
    Booker 2.6
    Castro 1.4
    Klobuchar 1.2
    Yang 1.0
    Gabbard 1.0
    Gillibrand 0.8
    Delaney 0.6
    Ryan 0.6
    Bennet 0.6
    Williamson 0.4
    Inslee 0.0
    Hickenlooper 0.0
    Swalwell 0.0
    Gravel 0.0
    Messam 0.0
    Moulton 0.0
    de Blasio 0.0
    Bullock 0.0

    Its a two person race folks. Warren will not escape the shadow of lying about her heritage, using Native Americans the way she did. Harris is no Obama. The others are all screwballs and failures. Its Sanders vs Biden.

  243. NYCmike says:

    “Its Sanders vs Biden.”

    -Democrats must be racist misogynists!

    LOL!

  244. lisab says:

    According to Gallup poll, 4 in 10 Americans would rather give up their wealth and opportunity, and instead live in hopeless poverty, receive crumbs from a hapless government
    ——————————-

    actually 4 in 10 people in the usa have ZERO or NEGATIVE wealth

    so that is not at all surprising

  245. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    People wonder why voters in Australia and Canada rejected candidates pushing the climate change issue:

    1.) In 2016 Governor Brown of California stated California was in permanent drought caused of global warming: As the NYTs headline declared: “California Braces for Unending Drought”: Since then California has had two of its wettest years, and 2019 is one of its coldest.

    @NWSSanDiego “Big Bear Lakers are waking up to new snow this morning. Yes, snow in late May is unusual, but not unheard of. Be careful driving on mountain roads above 6,000 feet this morning.”
    ___________

    2. ) In 2006 in his film “An Inconvenient Truth”, Al Gore stated: “Within the decade, there will be no more snows of Kilimanjaro.”

    “Greatest Snowfall on Kilimanjaro Glaciers in Years
    Doug Hardy
    4 April 2018
    Authored by Doug Hardy of the Climate System Research Center at the University of Massachusetts, the following blog posts covering the March snowfall on Kilimanjaro’s glaciers were originally published on Kiboice on March 14 and 30, 2018. Kiboice is dedicated to sharing news and stories on Kilimanjaro’s summit glaciers and climate.
    The first week of March brought a net snow accumulation of nearly 50 cm to the Northern Icefield, which by any measure is a snowy interval on Kilimanjaro. This precipitation follows 25 to 30 cm of continuous ablation during February. A context for the event follows”.

  246. NYCmike says:

    https://humanevents.com/2019/05/21/judge-who-ruled-on-trumps-finances-is-an-obama-donor/

    -Personally, I have no issue with a judge who donates to either party to put forth a ruling which is seen as bad for a candidate/official from the opposition party.

    My problem would be with a judge who makes a ruling like this where the law is not clear.

    If there is a law which says “if this is the circumstance, then an American citizen must hand over his records” then so be it.

    Is that the case here?

  247. DW says:

    253 – its why I said ‘wealth and opportunity.’ Even a person in the USA who has chosen to live in a homeless tent-city still has the opportunity to earn a wage and become self-sufficient, and live a better life than someone in a socialist/communist country.

    But 4 in 10 would rather stay impoverished and throw away even the opportunity to improve.

  248. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    256. Most people in homeless camps are there because of narcotics or alcohol abuse. A must see video on the subject is “Seattle is dying.” So far, the YouTube video has 3.6 million views

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw

  249. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    May 20, 2019 at 2:15 pm
    “What a joke.”
    -Was Robbie speaking about GoT, or the JEB!2016 campaign?
    The TRUTH may finally be seeping through the thick skull!

    – When I think about a joke, I think about a moron who masqueraded for years in this forum as a Tea Party supporter, supported dead end Senate candidates, blathered about limited government, and yapped about reducing the national debt only to cast it all aside to support a unprincipled NYC liberal. In other words, you.

  250. Robbie says:

    mnw says:
    May 20, 2019 at 2:29 pm
    RAS is 44/54 & -12 today.
    Clearly this was not noise.

    – Still putting your faith in the most laughable pollster there is I see.

  251. dblaikie says:

    Oh well all things must end. Wormtongue has returned. As usual no substance mixed with negative name calling amidst a vomit meaningless posts.

  252. Tina says:

    Slob Nattler has now subpoenaed two wh officials. Including hope hicks.

    Those will be knocked down quickly.

    Nattler knows that already

  253. Tina says:

    Fuhrer Mulehead has leaked to cn and n (their favorite media) that Mulehead is afraid to appear before the House.

    Apparently, he will have to testify under oath and cannot do it without Benito Weissarse.

  254. NYCmike says:

    “In other words, you.”

    -Robbie,

    To feel your pain since November 9, 2016, I’ll have to rely on Calvin for an appropriate response:

    ““You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don’t help.””

  255. NYCmike says:

    And here is a question for Walt and Ca$h Cow:

    ““Who was the guy who first looked at a cow and said ‘I think I’ll drink whatever comes out of these when I squeeze ’em?””

  256. Tina says:

    Dow just 106 points shy of 26000.

    But muh Tariffs. We need post after post after post.

    Why hasn’t the Biden Tariffs Report not updated?

  257. lisab says:

    #260 you can take solace knowing that he spent 8 years watching game of thrones and after wasting all that time fantasizing about the dragon princess,

    she showed herself to be a mass murderer

    which was actually shown throughout the 8 years of the show.

    it illustrates how easily people like him are led

  258. lisab says:

    djia means nothing over a few days or even weeks

    what will it be in august 2020 is the question

  259. mnw says:

    Only 20 more minutes until… Play Gloria.

  260. Tina says:

    Looks like republicans did well in pa tonite.

    Huge swing to GOP in PA House special after Trump visit. U.S. House District 12 Special Election +17 District Trump won by 36 points The last GOP Rep won by 32 points.
    GOP won by 43. GOP wins 3 other PA state local elections today too;

  261. jason says:

    York County vote so far

    Rep 24,242 15% turnout
    Dem 12,295 11% turnout

  262. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag is back?

    I thought he would be mourning his hero’s legal troubles.

    It is fitting that Amoral Scumbag, who has has the moral compass of a floating turd, looks up to Michael Avenatti, accused of defrauding a mentally ill paraplegic client.

  263. Bitterlaw says:

    In Philadelphia, the Democrats won the November General Election tonight. Of course, there may be some charges of voter fraud because fraud is only necessary in the Democratic primaries. We shall see.

  264. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw and ChiCon:
    Congrats to your Blues. The team’s goalie was terrific in the last priod. Beat Boston for the Cup!
    Enjoy “Gloria”

  265. mnw says:

    Thx, Sheep!

    They are… focused! And… relentless!

  266. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Tina does not like us discussing the Trump tax hikes a/k/a tariffs.

  267. Bitterlaw says:

    Sorry. I hate all Boston teams but St. Louis does not have a real winter. It does not deserve an NHL team. Go Bruins.

  268. jason says:

    Rep vote strong in Lancaster too, better than 2-1, and the Amish are not even voting.

  269. jason says:

    Jason – Tina does not like us discussing the Trump tax hikes a/k/a tariffs.”

    The AFL-CIO conservatives should proudly declare they are pro-tax hikes, I don’t understand the reticence.

  270. NYCmike says:

    “The AFL-CIO conservatives should proudly declare they are pro-tax hikes, I don’t understand the reticence.”

    -If I choose NOT to buy something from China that has a tariff on it, do I still have to pay the tariff?

  271. mnw says:

    Shark fin soup!

    Shark curry!

    Shark kebabs!

    Shark with pineapple salsa!

  272. jason says:

    I mean, the AFL-CIO has called for “control of means of production” I am sure the HHR “brothers” are on board…

  273. jason says:

    -If I choose NOT to buy something from China that has a tariff on it, do I still have to pay the tariff?”

    Are you really that stupid?

    Tariffs are reflected on all sorts of products and services through the entire supply chain, unless you are a hermit in a cave you are paying for the tariffs in just about everything you consume.

  274. NYCmike says:

    Our largest customer moved their production from China to Turkey and Portugal.

    There was a reason why they did that. And their customers in the states responded by signing contracts that were in limbo until they made that choice.

    Are they “stupid” as well?

  275. NYCmike says:

    My company has been affected by the imposition of tariffs, which is why we have looked to find business from other sources……that must be “stupid” of us.

  276. jason says:

    ‘still putting your faith in the most laughable pollster there is I see.”

    Polls that don’t fit Amoral Scumbag’s narrative are “laughable”

    Does that do are “serious”.

    What a pathetic loser.

  277. jason says:

    My company has been affected by the imposition of tariffs, which is why we have looked to find business from other sources……that must be “stupid” of us.”

    Yeah, you are a moron.

    If you think the tax hikes can be “avoided by seeking other sources” you are seriously deluded. The tax hikes affect different companies and individuals at different rates, but the economy as a whole is paying for it.

  278. Tina says:

    Bitter is triggered thst I do not like to read post after post after post on Tariffs,

    Bitter falsely said I wanted to shut down free speech even though I encouraged highly more posts from the Biden Tariff Report.

  279. dblaikie says:

    It is almost to much to hope for that the Congressional Dems would move ahead with impeachment. Talk about wasting time and accomplishing nothing. Frankly I think Trump is the one pushing them to do this. He knows that for people with Trump Derangement his finger in their eye concerning their effort to find dirt on him, is driving them crazy — just like Dany in Game of Thrones when she goes nuts and destroys Kings Landing.

    I wonder what will happen if they start impeachment proceedings and then the ig report comes out which condemns the start of the whole Russia mess. Pass the popcorn.

  280. Phil says:

    Note to Democrats in the House – please begin impeachment proceedings. Start immediately.

    I’m sure those Democrats elected from Trump districts are thrilled about it.

    Go for it.

  281. Tina says:

    Mentally ill just praised Biden by saying that he has only a “low iq.”

    I know the Biden report groupies will be upset, but it is actually praise.

  282. Phil says:

    Pelosi in meeting with House Democratic leaders discussing impeachment.

    Pelosi getting ready to cave.

    Excellent.

  283. Wes says:

    I’m not up to speed on Tina’s nicknames. Who is Mentally Ill?

  284. Phil says:

    Mentally ill. Could be referring to any one of twenty million Democrats in this country.

    Pick one.

  285. jason says:

    “Does that do”

    I really should cut down on the martinis.

  286. janz says:

    I concur with Phil’s comment in #294. Nadler, though, is the head of the mentally ill group – fiddling around with nonsense as world problems swirl around this country!

  287. Tina says:

    Wes, NK Dictator.

    But the drats here compete well in the mentally ill department,

  288. mnw says:

    297 T

    NK dictator needs “St. Julian. Patron Saint of Those Who Have Sinned Uncommonly”

    Unfortunately for him… it’s a novel.

  289. lisab says:

    Fusion GPS set up Trump Tower Meeting.

  290. lisab says:

    Lindsay King-Miller

    @AskAQueerChick

    If you liked “billionaire pays off one graduating class’s student loans” you’re gonna love “free college for everyone by taxing the wealthy”

  291. lisab says:

    NYT Confirms Hunter Biden Bank of China Deal

  292. lisab says:

    New transcripts released by Doug Collins of Georgia show that Loretta Lynch denied telling James Comey to classify the Hillary Clinton Email scandal as a “Matter”

    James Comey testified under oath that she instructed him to do so

  293. lisab says:

    Fiat Chrysler bringing 6,400 jobs, $4.5 billion investment to Detroit area

  294. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag’s hero in more trouble.

    “Federal prosecutors are expected to charge Michael Avenatti with additional financial crimes Wednesday, sources briefed on the case told ABC News.

    According to Avenatti, however, he provided Stormy with “millions in legal fees” and she only paid him $100. The rest of the money was “expenses”.

    “The new charges will accuse Avenatti of misappropriating money that was supposed to be paid to Stormy Daniels when Avenatti was representing the adult film actress in her public battle against President Trump and his former attorney Michael Cohen, the sources said.”

  295. jason says:

    Put a gun to my head and I say Lynch is telling the truth. I don’t think Lynch would have told the head of the FBI what to call an investigation.

    Comey always blames someone else for decisions HE made. His decisions always seem to be a reaction to something, it’s how he justifies them.

    But, if you believe that he wrote the letter to Congress about Hillary because of Lynch’s comment to him (I don’t), and you believe that is the reason Hillary lost the election (I don’t), then we can thank Loretta Lynch for electing Trump.

  296. jason says:

    Above, should be millions in legal services, not fees.

  297. Phil says:

    Avenatti, CNN’s favorite nightly guest? The man that the gals on The View said was going to single handedly save the republic? Rachael Maddow’s Hero? The man Robbie thought Was going to do real damage to Trump by representing a porn star? The guy who uncovered Kavanagh’s youthful rape parties?

    Obviously more trumped up charges against this patriot. He’s innocent of these accusations.

  298. Tina says:

    The lawyah screwed the pornstar.

  299. NYCmike says:

    “The lawyah screwed the (fill in the blank).”

  300. lisab says:

    Ocasio-Cortez says growing cauliflower in community gardens is ‘colonial’

  301. mnw says:

    I wouldn’t have thought this was possible, but… Avenatti has made me feel a little sorry for Stormy.

    He is the sort of attorney I would expect someone to hire, if he/she had no contacts in the legal community to provide an assessment.

  302. mnw says:

    P.S. The amount he stole from her is small enough, appx $300000, that she can probably recover the full amount from the New York Bar Assn’s victim compensation fund, I would think.

    Same for the CA victims he defrauded.

  303. Tina says:

    Mulehead was the figurehead for Scheme Team, Inc.

    Margot Cleveland
    @ProfMJCleveland
    ·
    14m
    why the heck didn’t Mueller investigate the “elephant that’s not just in the room but sitting uncomfortably in their laps. Christopher Steele’s dossier is clearly a Russian intelligence operation.” (Or conclude it wasn’t!) 2/

  304. Tina says:

    Another incompetent Fib Director.

    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    ·
    55m
    Just a reminder that Roger Stone is accused of a minor process crime while
    @MichaelAvenatti
    is accused of defrauding multiple clients out of millions and trying to extort Nike.

    Christopher Wray’s FBI discreetly arrested Avenatti w/out tipping off CNN but sent SWAT for Roger.

  305. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    311. Missing from OAC’s lecture on which vegetables and fruit are politically correct was any discussion of the fact that many of her favored tropical food plants will not grow in New York. Sounds like she has never gotten her fingers dirty working with soil. It would improve her reputation if she stopped talking about things she knows nothing about.

  306. NYCmike says:

    Wrong Wray needs to be sent packing as well.

    Put Giuliani in there.

  307. Wes says:

    Never change, New Jersey. Never change. Bitterlaw and I won’t be able to forgive you if you do:

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/22/cory-booker-abortion-proposal-1338130

  308. Tom says:

    316. Which would mean she would have to stop talking period.

  309. Wes says:

    Ol’ Bernie knows he has literally as much chance of winning the presidency as I have. He’s using his latest vanity run as early fundraising tool for his 2020 re-election campaign. That’s why he’s already filed for reelection to the Senate.

    (Under federal law, a candidate can switch funds raised for one federal campaign to another federal campaign.)

  310. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    As Governor Brown and Al Gore have prophesied, the permanent drought caused by global warming in California continues. The science is settled — so don’t confuse us with the facts:

    @NWSCNRFC
    “Just how unseasonable has this month’s precipitation been so far? Much of CA has seen 200-500% or higher month-to-date precipitation through this morning! Additional precip is expected the next several days.”

  311. janz says:

    SanDiegoCitizen. – it poured here in the LA area this afternoon, unexpectedly – lots of thunder too. I am more fully on board with looking at our climate going into a solar minimum rather than all the predictions of the AGW crowd.

  312. NYCmike says:

    Some breaking news, from the sports world:

    Robinson Cano busted it out of the batters box this evening, hustling down the baseline trying to leg out a hustle single……..and injured his quad muscle…….

  313. Tina says:

    And still no new dams for water storage in California.

    But pot is legal,

  314. 323. “it poured here in the LA area this afternoon, unexpectedly – lots of thunder too. I am more fully on board with looking at our climate going into a solar minimum rather than all the predictions of the AGW crowd.”

    We had the same in San Diego, sudden pouring rain. Something is definitely odd with the weather. A very cold, snowy, and rainy year, even more so than two years ago.

  315. janz says:

    Tina, even the Orville Dam spillway is still under repair, as it’s almost full and ready to flood with either the ice pack melt or more rain straining it’s capacity.

    CA is so under prepared for almost anything out of the ordinary.

  316. janz says:

    BTW, the dems jumped the shark today, IMO. Their impeachment meeting, before their scheduled infrastructure one with the prez, was beneath the bar of professional decency.

    So disingenuous……

  317. Bitterlaw says:

    Of course Wes is pro-choice. I wonder how many abortions resulted from his activities.

  318. Bitterlaw says:

    The All in the Family and The Jefferson’s was very good. Marisa Tomei was too pretty to play Edith and over the top,

  319. Bitterlaw says:

    For those who saw Brexit as a good sign and a foreshadowing of Trump’s election…..Um….It did not work out well.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7060357/Tories-brace-Euro-election-wipeout-day-calamity-Theresa-saw-Andrea-Leadsom-QUIT.html

  320. Wes says:

    330 comes from a guy who wants to own property in a state represented by a corrupt Senator who rapes underage sex slaves. At least all my encounters have been consensual—I can’t say that about a certain Senator you never speak ill of, Bitter. I wonder if Menendez has ever made any rape babies and had them aborted. You clearly wouldn’t have a problem with it if he did.

    After all New Jersey has seasons! That in your mind justifies all the disgusting corruption and salaciousness coming out of that oversized sewer euphemistically called a state.

  321. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    333. You neglected to mention Tony Soprano.

  322. Bitterlaw says:

    I wanted Menendez convicted. I wanted him to lose.

    Wes did not answer. I set the over/under at 3 children Wes fathered being aborted.

  323. NYCmike says:

    #332 – Please explain your comment.

  324. Bitterlaw says:

    SDC – Wes blames me for a Senator in a state I have not lived in except for school breaks since I left for college in 1986. I have been a PA resident since 1994.

  325. Bitterlaw says:

    NYC – Sometimes popular anti-establishment movements work. Sometimes they don’t work out as expected.

  326. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    reading that article, I was confused as to what would happen.

    Was Labor taking over the government?

    Was Brexit done for?

    I have to read it again I guess.

  327. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    337. Well somebody has to take the blame — and Robbie has gone AWOL.

  328. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    338. “Sometimes popular anti-establishment movements work. Sometimes they don’t work out as expected”.

    Its not whether Brexit works; it that Theresa May has totally bobbled making it happen. That is why the Conservatives are polling at 7% and may get wiped out. By contrast the Farage’s Brexit Party is polling at 37%, and the Liberal Democrats are running 2nd. Labour is running a poor third. When you kick the voters in the teeth; they tend to not vote for you in the next election.

  329. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    339. The election is for members of the European parliament. It is not for members of the House of Commons. If May resigns, then the Conservatives could appoint a new leader, unless things break down and then a new election might be called.

  330. Bitterlaw says:

    I did not care if the referendum approved or rejected Brexit. Once the vote was to leave, I thought May could figure out a way to leave.

  331. lisab says:

    For those who saw Brexit as a good sign and a foreshadowing of Trump’s election
    ———————————-

    actually the brexit party is expecting to crush the opposition …

    which is what the tories get for trying to derail brexit

    not that i support brexit, scotland for example wants to stay in the eu — and i hope they can, but the people of england wanted out and may tried to stop them

    seems like a warning to gope more than to trump.

  332. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    343. I actually think those who suggested a second referendum make a good point. It would resolve once and for all the question over whether the British people still supported BREXIT after all the controversy. However, the European parliament elections seem be serving as a substitute for a second referendum.

  333. lisab says:

    I actually think those who suggested a second referendum make a good point. It would resolve once and for all the question over whether the British people still supported BREXIT
    ——————————————

    ummmmmmmmm … except that it would ignore the original brexit voters

    “yes, we know you voted for it, but we know more than you and you are all a bunch of stupid hillbillies, so we are going to keep voting until you agree with us … and then the matter will be settled law”
    ————————————-

    that is a nice democracy you have there … it would be a shame if something happened to it

  334. 346. It would be the same voters in the second election, they are not being ignored, they are being given a chance to reaffirm their vote based what has happened since the first vote. We don’t election politicians for life; they are elected for limited terms. People have the right to change their minds.

  335. lisab says:

    they are being given a chance to reaffirm their vote
    ——————————–

    and why do some people have to reaffirm their vote?

    who gets to decide which votes actually count, and which votes need to be reaffirmed?

  336. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    In a lot of ways, Nigel Farage is a more colorful figure than Trump. His speeches at the European Parliament are very entertaining to watch. He is witty and brutal at the same time. He enjoys ruffling the pigeons.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPzvbJrWx1s

  337. lisab says:

    We don’t election politicians for life; they are elected for limited terms. People have the right to change their minds.
    —————————–

    that would be appropriate

    had britain actually left the eu

    and then the people decided to reenter

    but that is not what has happened. the people voted to leave and the politicians and civil servants have refused to leave

  338. lisab says:

    perhaps the people of pa, wi, and mi should have had to reaffirm their votes in 2016?

  339. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    348. In the United Kingdom the Parliament is supreme; and makes the governmental decisions. The referendum was in effect an advisory vote; which the government agreed to abide by the outcome. But given all the issues that have since arisen, can see a basis for making sure there is still support for Brexit. If the voters have turned against Brexit, then there is no reason to not reconsider it. My hunch is they will still favor Brexit, and it will be reflected in the European parliament election.

  340. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    351. “perhaps the people of pa, wi, and mi should have had to reaffirm their votes in 2016?”

    Yes, and they will be able to do so next year in 2020.

  341. lisab says:

    which the government agreed to abide by the outcome. But given all the issues that have since arisen, can see a basis for making sure there is still support for Brexit.
    —————————–

    soooooooooo … we vote, but if the establishment does not like the results, they can ignore it

    and then vote again until they get the result they want?

  342. lisab says:

    Yes, and they will be able to do so next year in 2020.
    ———————–

    but the government had to abide by the vote in 2016

    hillary did not take power

    obama and his minions had to give up control

    what you are suggesting is for the government to ignore a vote and then vote again (and again and again, and again … until they get what they want)

  343. lisab says:

    much better to vote … abide by the results … and then after a period of time, vote again and see if people want a change.

    if only someone had thought of that before? oh wait … john locke

  344. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    There is not basis in the English constitutional/government system for a referendum. It was an advisory vote, which the government at the time agreed to abide by. Parliament makes the ultimate decision. They also have the right to decide to have a second advisory vote.

  345. lisab says:

    There is not basis in the English constitutional/government system for a referendum. It was an advisory vote, which the government at the time agreed to abide by.
    ———————————–

    soooooooooooo … the government agreed to abide by it …

    but since they did not get the result they wanted

    you suggest they ignore the vote by the people …

    again, that is a nice democracy you have there, it would be a shame if something happened to it

  346. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    358. If it is the will of the people, then they will vote for it again.

  347. lisab says:

    If it is the will of the people, then they will vote for it again.
    ——————————-

    why do some people need to vote again?

    and if they did vote for it again, why would you then just not say, “If it is the will of the people, then they will vote for it a third time.”

    and then a fourth time

    and then a fifth time
    ——————————————

    they people voted

    the establishment did not get what they wanted

    that should not mean you keep voting until your side wins

  348. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab is wrong. May tried again and again to get the deal to leave the EU approved. She was not a fan of Brexit but as she said “Brexit means Brexit.” It as the hardcore Brexit Deadenders who were never satisfied enough to support any deal. They did not have a plan. They just hated hers.

  349. lisab says:

    it is not results of the election that matters

    it is the people who decide if the election should count or not that matter

    just keep saying that if the people really wanted a voice in government, they would keep reaffirming their vote … until our side eventually wins

    and then and only then will we have the election count

  350. Hugh says:

    This is not a vote to reaffirm brexit though it could have that psychological impact. The problem is the eu played hardball as a warning to others for terms to leave the eu. The alternative was to just leave with no terms. The eu may have screwed up in that other populist parties and people in countries that are sick of the eu may show their anger. Truth is the uk has done far better than predicted by all the experts. Sound familiar and the next time there is an election in the uk. They should exit with no deal. Let Germany and France bail out the stinking corpse called the eu. While the uk laughs all the way to the bank.

  351. Bitterlaw says:

    High – The UK wanted all of the benefits of EU membership (access to markets, travel, residency, etc with no obligations. The EU said no deal. May and the EU worked out several compromises. Brexit Deadendrrs rejected all of them. The UK may end up better off eventually but it is a mess right now.

  352. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Did anyone watch Maria Bartolomow rip Debbie Dingell(D-MI) a new one this morning on FOX Business News? The topic was Congressional investigations of Trump. Dingell was stammering and on the verge of tears. MB’s follow-up questions were brutal.
    MB has become a terrific interviewer; she may be the best one on FOX.

    MARIA for President!!!

  353. Wes says:

    Liberals eating their own?

    The NYT takes California liberals to task for the state’s housing problem.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/22/opinion/california-housing-nimby.html

  354. Wes says:

    It’s Maria Bartiromo, Sheep.

  355. jason says:

    I know Bitter won’t try to steal my advance for my new book:

    “Dealing with trolls for Dummies”.

  356. jason says:

    I compare the anti-Brexit crowd with the Trump collusion/impeachment crowd.

    They never could accept the result of the referendum/election.

  357. jason says:

    All I know is that if I voted in Britain, I would certainly vote to leave the EU.

  358. lisab says:

    New HBO miniseries Chernobyl is forced to recast actors and rewrite scripts as it is labeled “racist, homophobic and islamophobic!! Not one black, Hispanic, muslim or gay person and no mixed race or same sex couples at all!!” by Hollywood and Democratic elites.

  359. janz says:

    Sheep, agree that Marie B. Is one of the sharpest in the interviewing business. She doesn’t smooze with people, but simply gets to substantial questions. And, if people ramble or divert their answers, she follows up to get them back on tract.

  360. Tina says:

    Maria B started at CNBC before it went commie.

    She was known as the money honey.

    She actually reports for Fox Business, not Fox News.

    Fox,News is Cn and n light. Large blocs of programming are un watchable, see Sheohardly Smith, who has lied repeatedly on his show.

  361. Tina says:

    The house of commies and jihadis will go to court asking for an injunction on trumps declaration of a national emergency for the border.

    Rememberm national emergencies only apply to the border of Krapistan.

  362. mnw says:

    RAS 47 today.

    The DEMs remind me of the great former Cubs manager Lee Elia!

    Elia was so mad he eventually started denouncing… the fans! “Who are all these people who go to day baseball games anyway? Bums who never go to work!”

    The DEMs have reached something like the same level of frustration with the gd voters!

  363. jason says:

    Fox,News is Cn and n light.”

    I don’t watch any of them any more, although I did happened to see a clip last night of Tucker Carlson interviewing Avenatti months ago and saying things like “you are exploiting your clients, aren’t you”, a great I told you so piece.

    But OAN and Newsmax should have some red meat for you, Tina.

  364. jason says:

    “A clear majority of 58 percent believe the FBI was trying to help Hillary Clinton defeat Donald Trump for the presidency. Only 42 percent believe the FBI wanted to help Trump,”

    42% still believe the narrative that Comey was trying to help Trump?

    Geezus.

  365. mnw says:

    Bloomberg (not The Onion):

    “Millenials blame climate change for their small 401(k)s”

  366. mnw says:

    The astonishing part is the 42%!

  367. jason says:

    The astonishing part is the 42%!”

    I guess that is the same percentage that believe Comey is a Republican.

  368. Wes says:

    I didn’t know Mikey ran CFG!

    https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/23/thom-tillis-2020-1340305

    Those clowns are seriously trying to force Thom Tillis to face a divisive primary. Ay Dios Mio…

    ::facepalm::

  369. jason says:

    Send a message!

  370. jason says:

    What is the matter wes, you don’t believe in primaries?

    The true conservative deadenders in NC should have the right to find a way of electing a flaming liberal to represent them. The flaming liberal will vote their interests 0% of the time, as opposed to Tillis who probably votes their interests 95% of the time, but the message will be heard loud and clear.

  371. mnw says:

    The CFG are your partners, buddies & pals!

    CFG HATES tariffs & wants immediate surrender in the dispute with China.

    Just restore the status quo ante with China, and go back to SLEEP!, the CFG advises.

  372. jason says:

    New HBO miniseries Chernobyl is forced to recast actors and rewrite scripts as it is labeled “racist, homophobic and islamophobic!!”

    I agree with this.

    I think all the black, Hispanic, gay and Muslim workers and firefighters at the Chernobyl plant in 1986 should be represented in the movie.

  373. jason says:

    The CFG is against massive tax hikes aka tariffs on the American people in the name of economic protectionism and isolationism?

    Good for them.

    But running deadenders against Tillis is still a bad idea.

  374. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I favor BREXIT, but it is such a critically important issue, and so much has happened since the 1st vote, believe a second vote would remove any doubt as to the continued public support for the decision to leave the EU. Vote and then immediately exit. May botched the situation horribly. If Farage’s party does very well in the European parliamentary elections, that may be sufficient in itself to constitute a second referendum vote to leave.

  375. Tina says:

    Yikes, Gaffe Biden and pooty Poot. Thumbs up pooty poot.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/SHEPMJS/status/1131410285095313408

  376. janz says:

    Trump has been calling congress a “Do Nothing Congress.” According to a spokesperson yesterday the current congress has passed 16 bills to the last less-than-great congress who passed 440 bills at the same juncture of their tenure.

    I guess the prez’s label of Pelosi’s Congress has merit.

  377. Tina says:

    Piglosi has not looked well,

    Her party is being shredded internally.

  378. janz says:

    Yes, Tina, IMO Pelosi is not having a fun time being Speaker this time around. Couple this with what appear to be more physical frailties, I think it will wear on her more as time goes on.

    Supposedly, within a week’s time the 1st bucket of unclassified docs are set to be unclassified and released. I’m crossing fingers they will be enlightening enough to catch the interest of ALL media outlets, embarrassing elites who have lied and obfuscated these many long months.

  379. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Victor Davis Hanson points out something that Mueller seems to have overlooked

    “As far as alleged Russian collusion goes, Hillary Clinton used three firewalls — the Democratic National Committee, the Perkins Coie law firm and the Fusion GPS strategic intelligence firm — to hide her campaign’s payments to British national Christopher Steele to find dirt on Trump and his campaign; in other words, to collude. Steele in turn collected his purchased Russian sources to aggregate unverified allegations against Trump. He then spread the gossip within government agencies to ensure that the smears were leaked to the media — and with a government seal of approval.
    No wonder that special counsel Robert Mueller’s partisan team spent 22 months and $34 million only to conclude the obvious: that Trump did not collude with Russia.
    Mueller’s failure to find collusion prompts an important question. If the Steele dossier — the basis for unfounded charges that Trump colluded with Russia — was fraudulent, then how and why did the Clinton campaign, hand in glove with top Obama administration officials, use such silly trash and smears to unleash the powers of government against Trump’s campaign, transition team and early presidency?”

    https://townhall.com/columnists/victordavishanson/2019/05/23/federal-rats-are-fleeing-the-sinking-collusion-ship-n2546735?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=05/23/2019&bcid=edff960c22cffce84726952a1ca03325&recip=25795774

  380. Tina says:

    Janz, trump is no doormat compared to Mute 43. He let her run all over him,

  381. Bitterlaw says:

    If I lived in the UK, I probably would have voted for Brexit. I also would have supported all of the deals that fell through.

  382. lisab says:

    anytime people vote differently from the way i want

    i completely support making them reaffirm their vote

    because everything i believe is really important … to me

    so of course they should revote … brexit or otherwise …

    in fact, my opponents should have to reaffirm their votes many times …

  383. lisab says:

    weinstein has reached a deal with his victims …

    44 million

  384. lisab says:

    wh to declassify spying docs against trump campaign

  385. lisab says:

    Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said Thursday he believes President Trump was correct when he suggested former secretary of state John Kerry violated the Logan Act.

  386. lisab says:

    Kamala Harris
    ?
    Verified account

    @KamalaHarris
    18m18 minutes ago
    More
    My message to corporations: Time to prove you’re paying women equally.

  387. lisab says:

    Waitresses, rideshare drivers, short order cook. Those are just a few jobs almost 1 in 5 teachers work outside the school system just to make ends meet. When I am president, teachers will be paid fairly. kamala harris

  388. Tina says:

    BOOM

    Donald J. Trump
    ?
    @realDonaldTrump
    “Today, at the request and recommendation of the Attorney General of the United States, President Donald J. Trump directed the intelligence community to quickly and fully cooperate with the Attorney General’s investigation into surveillance activities….

    25.7K
    5:19 PM – May 23, 2019

  389. Tina says:

    Spygate ismbreakimg before are eyes.

    Look for the rinos to sheot themselves.

  390. lisab says:

    Looks like Comey’s Chief of Staff was in the room when Lynch directed Comey to call the Clinton email investigation a “matter.” Someone perjured. Guess we’ll find out who soon enough.

  391. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    Chimpanzees spotted cracking open tortoises for meat..

    That is all….

  392. 405. Chimpanzees are brutal and vicious. They hunt down other monkeys and rip them apart, and engage in cannibalism.

    “Male chimpanzees at the Gombe National Park were twice seen to attack ‘stranger’ females and seize their infants. One infant was then killed and partially eaten: the other was ‘rescued’ and carried by three different males. Once several males were found eating a freshly killed ‘stranger’ infant.”

  393. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is a commentary of the Australian election. It seems very similar to the U.S. election in 2016. Anyone who thinks the election results in the U.S. in 2016, and recently in Brazil, Australia and many other places, is an aberration is fooling themselves.

    “The truly remarkable thing about the days prior to the election was the utter confidence of the inner urban cabal. They were going to win and there would be little left of the governing Liberal National Party. Breakfast TV through to evening current affairs shows – all of them hosted in well to do inner urban areas – expressed complete faith in a Labor win. One gambler was so confident he placed an AUD $1 million bet on Labor winning. To say the least, he lost big.

    The denizens of trendy inner city secondhand bookshops may have been filled with confidence, but not of suburban and regional voters. Struggling with flat real wage growth and having borne the brunt of a changing employment landscape, rising electricity bills and falling confidence in their future, this was not the time to tell them it was their duty to sacrifice even more to ‘save the planet’ by paying ever higher electricity bills, or buying an electric car they can’t afford. Especially when that message comes from smug sounding public servants or wealthy, entitled inner city residents who have been the beneficiaries of economic change, as well as overseas investors, rather than its victims.

    The conservative vote which returned Prime Minister Morrison came from working and middle class people, living in the suburbs and regions of the country. It did not come from traditionally affluent inner urban seats – many of which were once held by conservatives but which are now marginal or in the hands of Labor or left leaning independents. (The Greens hold only one Federal Parliament seat – based on the hipster inner north of Melbourne).”

  394. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    465. “Chimps have spontaneously figured out how to use a stick to mash a potato. The finding could prompt a rethink of how tool use develops in primate societies.”

    Tarzan tried to show Cheetah how to make french fries, but then Cheetah ate Tarzan.

  395. Wes says:

    If Cheetah tried that Tarzan would just lock him in a submission hold till Cheetah yelled, “Ka-goda!”. (I quit!)

  396. Wes says:

    Weld gets an endorsement in his doomed bid to unseat Trump in the primary:

    https://www.boston.com/news/politics/2019/05/20/phil-scott-bill-weld-charlie-baker-2020

    Phil Scott has nothing to lose here and probably seals reelection by endorsing Trump’s primary challenger.

  397. Tina says:

    Look for Deep state allied with the decipticons to strike back at the declassification order.

    The drats wanted full transparency.

  398. Tina says:

    According to Schiff for Brains, who should run for President, the declassification order is a cover up.

    They were out matched by Barr and now F. Mulehead won’t testify publicly because he is afraid of committing perjury.

    Will be kind of hard for Scheme Teams figurehead to explain how he was not in on the Scheme with the other coup plotters, how he handed over uranium to the Russians, how he overlooked the one offs, etc.

  399. Tina says:

    Full meltdown has begun among the coup plotters, drats, rinos, etc.

  400. Tina says:

    Scarface calls trump an autocrat for declassifying.

    But they wanted muh transparency.

    Also, mr. Mika needs to probably review the definition of an autocrat.

  401. Tina says:

    Maybe the jebots know what is wrong with dear leader?

    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    ·
    21m
    I don’t know if it’s booze, neurological, or physical, but it’s undeniable that something is wrong with Nancy Pelosi.

  402. Wes says:

    Theresa May will resign June 7:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-resigns-new-prime-minister-brexit-eu-election-results-a8928111.html

    I guess Mikey will now say May is retiring since he claimed Bob Corker resigned when announcing retirement.

  403. mnw says:

    Spygate investigation is inside baseball. It may well be needed, but the public moved on when the Mueller report came out.

  404. jason says:

    If I lived in the UK, I probably would have voted for Brexit. I also would have supported all of the deals that fell through.”

    Right. But none of the deals were good enough for the all or nothing deadenders.

    So the deadenders, who wanted everything, might now walk out with nothing.

  405. mnw says:

    This amuses me:

    The union that represents USDA employees is protesting Sec Ag’s plan to move two small USDA units out into the agricultural heartland. “This serves no public purpose,” says the union.

    On behalf of their members, the union is fighting a plan that would likely increase their members’ net worth by a factor of 2X or more, over the course of 10 years.

    Only a union would fight for the status quo– a chance to pay D.C. housing costs on a modest salary.

  406. Phil says:

    I’m confused. How does declassifying emails and FISA warrant applications become a “cover up”

    Splain it to me, Lucy.

  407. jason says:

    Only a union would fight for the status quo– a chance to pay D.C. housing costs on a modest salary.”

    There are much better examples of “fighting for the status quo” when it comes to unions.

    They are always against any efforts at modernization and to render companies more competitive.

    Then they whine when companies relocate to states with lower taxes (or tax incentives) and right to work laws or abroad.

  408. Phil says:

    Avenatti claims Trump behind his multiple indictments. LOL

    Man, I’m running out of popcorn.

    Didn’t Ana Navarro six months ago compare the porn lawyer to the Holy Spirit?

    Yep, definitely going to be a popcorn shortage.

  409. jason says:

    I’m confused. How does declassifying emails and FISA warrant applications become a “cover up”

    When is the IG report coming out?

    We keep hearing about it but it never happens.

  410. mnw says:

    I have an old buddy of mine, a career govt atty, who is in D.C. on a one-year, temporary assignment to Main Justice.

    He’s living in a colleague’s basement, & he still has two-hour+ RT commute.

  411. jason says:

    Avenatti admits Stormy was just a tool to get at Trump.

    Except that if he had passed on her, he would still be defrauding his clients, living the lifestyle of the very rich, and probably getting away with it.

    “When I met with Stormy, I saw an avenue by which I could do collateral damage to Donald Trump and those around him for what appeared to me to be illegal conduct and rigging a presidential election. I saw that as an opportunity to do something that was just, that was right, and to basically go all in.”

  412. mnw says:

    He’s going to prison for a minimum of several years; the govt will seize any assets he has left; & he’ll lose his law license, obviously.

    Basically… he destroyed himself.

  413. Phil says:

    NO NO NO

    The second coming of the Holy Spirit couldn’t possibly destroy himself could he? Say it isn’t so.

  414. Chicon says:

    “Right. But none of the deals were good enough for the all or nothing deadenders.”

    Jason can’t stand them all or nothing types. Unless they are all or nothing on tariffs. He loves them.

  415. Wes says:

    Chicon says:
    May 24, 2019 at 11:26 am
    “Right. But none of the deals were good enough for the all or nothing deadenders.”

    Jason can’t stand them all or nothing types. Unless they are all or nothing on tariffs. He loves them.

    I guess Jason likes all-or-nothing types on tariffs almost as much as Chicon hates correct grammar.

  416. lisab says:

    JEB! is now the frontrunner for prime minister in the UK

  417. jason says:

    Unless they are all or nothing on tariffs.

    Chicon might not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he is beginning to catch on.

    Tariffs should be opposed as a principle. There are no “good” tariffs.

    If you believe in free trade, you don’t believe in tariffs.

    But if the analogy works with deadenders throwing away winnable senate seats, go for it.

    I prefer the analogy of “f–king for virginity” when it comes to tariffs as a “path to free trade”.

  418. jason says:

    “He’s going to prison for a minimum of several years; the govt will seize any assets he has left; & he’ll lose his law license, obviously.”

    He is facing 404 years. He says he welcomes a jury trial but he is the poster child for a defendant the jury is not going to like from the get go. A lawyer ripping off clients and living the life of the super rich.

    I would say if they offer him 10 years he should jump at it. He will be in his mid fifties when he gets out, maybe he can get a book deal.

  419. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – Rep. Jerry Nadler had a medical episode while appearing with Mayor Bill de Blasio Friday.

    Nadler was at an event at PS 149 in Manhattan touting an increase in speed cameras near schools when he appeared to become disoriented.

    De Blasio stopped his remarks and turned to Nadler, offering him some water.

    “Jerry, take a drink, you look a little dehydrated, brother. You seem a little dehydrated. You OK? ” de Blasio said. “Jerry? How you feel man? You all right?”

    People started asking for a doctor and an announcement of a “code blue” was made over the public address system.

    Doctors rushed to his side.

    He seemed to recover his composure a short time later.

    Nadler is the chairman of the House Judiciary Committee.

  420. Chicon says:

    Jason describes all or nothing thinking well. “Tariffs should be opposed as a principle”. Substitute “open borders”, “abortion”, or many others for “tariffs”; and Jason starts foaming at the mouth about those rigid deadenders stuck on their principles. Consistent he ain’t (Wes, that’s another intentional grammar mistake for your records).

  421. Chicon says:

    The Nadler health thingy (Wes, another intentional grammatical mistake if you’re keeping score) reminds us of another Jason inconsistency. When Ginsburg missed a few days of hearings he called on her to resign because she was unable to do her job. When I suggested McCain resign when it became apparent to him that he wasn’t coming back to the Senate, Jason had the foam oozing out of his mouth (Wes, not literally) in defense of his hero.

  422. janz says:

    Schiff now claims that investigating the origins of Russiagate is “un-American.” This guy is so infuriating for his steadfastness in spreading misinformation, 24/7.

  423. jason says:

    This is what worries Schiff.

    Of course, I think the article should say after “two years of investigation”.

    After two years of conspiracy, special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation is over but the origins of the Russia-collusion probe is still unknown. However former Whitewater independent counsel Robert Ray believes judgement day is within sight.

    Former Congressman Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., told Maria Bartiromo on “Sunday Morning Futures”that Comey wrote, in an email to his staff including James Baker, the former general counsel at the FBI, former agent Peter Strzok, and former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, that Brennan insisted to include Donald Trump in the Russian meddling assessment.

    When the FOX Business host asked “how far up the ladder this goes,” Ray answered: “all the way up the chain.”

    “A day of reckoning is near,” he told Maria Bartiromo on Thursday.

    Although Ray wasn’t sure whether President Obama was involved, he does know that “with regard to leadership within the intelligence community” and also “within the higher reaches of the Justice Department there were too many people who knew about this.

    Ray believes the night before the election may uncover the most important details.

    “On the eve of the change of administrations and the eve of the election, there’s too much indication that there are games being played about what is and what is not disclosed after review by supervisors to the FISA court,” he added.”

  424. jason says:

    Substitute “open borders”, “abortion”, or many others for “tariffs”; and Jason starts foaming at the mouth about those rigid deadenders stuck on their principles.”

    LOL.

    When you resort to lying this much, you have lost the argument.

    I never called anyone who opposes abortion a deadender, never. While I personally believe abortion should be legal in the first trimester, I have always respected the views of those that believe life begins at conception or whatever other reason.

    As for open borders, nobody here is more against open borders than I am. However, I think those that think we are winning the issue by not coming to a bi-partisan comprehensive immigration deal are foolish. We are one SCOTUS judge or one election away from having de-facto open borders. We are not winning. The Dems will get their way sooner or later on immigration, time is not on our side.

    Oh, and GFY.

  425. jason says:

    When Ginsburg missed a few days of hearings he called on her to resign because she was unable to do her job. When I suggested McCain resign when it became apparent to him that he wasn’t coming back to the Senate, Jason had the foam oozing out of his mouth (Wes, not literally) in defense of his hero.”

    Wow, this is so dishonest and full of lies and falsehoods its hard to see where to start.

    In the first place, even if Chicon had correctly stated my positions, which he hasn’t, the Senate has 100 members and SCOTUS has 9, so only a moron would think the impact is the same.

    Second, what I said about Ginsburg was that a SCOTUS judge, which is not an elected position, should resign if their health issues prevented them from adequately performing their duties, I don’t think issuing opinions from a hospital bed or home on a regular basis fits the bill. I would say the same for a conservative justice too.

    As for McCain, Chicon is lying through his teeth again. His ONLY reason for wanting McCain to resign was that he didn’t agree with his votes, NOTHING to do with his health. Chicon had consistently insulted McCain’s record and honor and to pretend he was now concerned about his health is the biggest crock of crap ever.

    McCain was elected 6 times to the Senate by his constituents. He earned the right to decided when or if he wanted to resign. It was his decision, not the decision of some whining POS who probably has not done 1/1000thousandt for his country that McCain did.