Biden Leads Trump By 11% Nationally

Fox News is falling into line with just about everyone else showing Joe Biden dominating the Democratic field and well ahead of Donald Trump in the General Election.

Joe Biden 35%
Bernie Sanders 17%
Elizabeth Warren 9%
Pete Buttigieg 6%
Kamala Harris 5%
Beto O’Rourke 4%
Cory Booker 3%
Julian Castro 2%
Amy Klobuchar 2%
Tulsi Gabbard 1%
John Delaney 1%
Jay Inslee 1%
Tim Ryan 1%
Andrew Yang 1%
Marianne Williamson 1%
Kirsten Gillibrand 0%
John Hickenlooper 0%
Wayne Messam 0%
Eric Swalwell 0%
Seth Moulton 0%
Mike Gravel 0%
Michael Bennet 0%

Joe Biden (D) 49%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 38%

Bernie Sanders (D) 46%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Elizabeth Warren (D) 43%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Kamala Harris (D) 41%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%
Pete Buttigieg (D) 40%

This poll was done May 11-14 among 1008 registered voters and 469 Democratic primary voters.

Posted by Dave at 11:12 am
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140 Responses to “Biden Leads Trump By 11% Nationally”

  1. dblaikie says:


  2. mnw says:

    RAS is same as yesterday: 45/53 & -11.

    That’s 4 down days in a row. Doesn’t seem like noise.

  3. Waingro says:

    Ooph that Biden-Trump HTH topline number is absolutely brutal.

  4. dblaikie says:

    As I said in the last thread the RAS numbers reflect the importance of the economy. It is no coincidence that Trump’s numbers dropped right after the break down in the China talks, the imposition of tariffs, and the 600 point drop in the stock market.

    Since then those situations have stabilized to certain degree. If my above point is correct than Trump’s numbers in the RAS poll will slowly rise once again — unless the economy seems even more unstable — than the confirmation will be a further lowering of approval numbers.

  5. dblaikie says:

    I always find fox polls interesting because the stereotype is that the network is right wing but the polls are always leaning towards the dems.

    It is my fervent hope that Uncle Joe is the nominee. But first he has to survive the onslaught coming at him from the left.

    Frankly he doesn’t seem all there. Folks may disagree with me, as they often do, but I don’t believe he has the physical energy to make a serious 18 month run at the Presidency.

  6. mnw says:

    The anxiety about Iran may play into the poor rolls also.

    I think Trump will never back down on trade issues. It’s who he is, & he’s been consistent on that one policy issue for 30 years.

  7. mnw says:


  8. 6. To be successful in the Chinese negotiations, Trump realizes he is going to have to stay the course despite how it affects his poll numbers.

    It is ironic that after the Mueller controversy is off the front page of the news, Tromp’s poll numbers decline. Bill Clinton had his highest polling numbers during the time he was being impeached. The Democrats needs to remember Carville’s advise: “Its the economy, stupid.” Biden focusing on bread and butter issues, instead of leftist social change, is a smart decision.

  9. mnw says:

    8 SDC

    I agree with all of that.

  10. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    A poster made an excellent observation on the RRH Elections site:

    “Biden is polling strongly now because he’s seen as a blank slate people falsely project their own ideology onto.”

  11. jason says:

    I think Trump will never back down on trade issues. It’s who he is,”

    I agree with this.

    He is an isolationist and a protectionist, he has held these positions for decades.

    That is why the “negotiating stance” argument by the AFL-CIO conservatives is a load of crap.

  12. Cash Cow TM says:

    Sad day overseas….


    “Austrians told to stop French kissing COWS…”

    Personally (or cow-ally?) I enjoy a good French kiss from humans.

  13. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    12. What’s next, are they going to tell Joe Biden he can’t blow in a cow’s ear anymore?

  14. lisab says:

    i think biden is strong now because he is getting almost all of the moderate dem vote

    the sjw vote is spread over 17 candidates.

    about 20% of sanders supporters say they wont vote for biden

    (or anybody but sanders)

    but that remains to be seen.

  15. gameboy says:

    #14 No need to fear Biden in the general. All you have to do is watch him speak. He’s slow, studders, and doesn’t make any sense. His time has long passed. There is for sure a contingent of Bernie supporters who will not vote for a Biden type. I personally know a handful of Bernie people who pulled the lever for Jill Stein as they refused to vote for Hillary. I’m sure that number will increase from 2016 as those people will feel Bernie baby was screwed over twice.

  16. Big Joe says:

    #14- That has always been Joe Biden’s path. His lane is mostly clear, the other lane is jam packed.

    Big Joe

  17. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    16. “I’m sure that number will increase from 2016 as those people will feel Bernie baby was screwed over twice.”

    Gameboy, just a warning that this type of comment drives several anti-Trump posters bonkers.

  18. lisab says:

    i was one of the jill stein voters that would not vote for hillary

    but i think a lot depends on how biden treats the others in debates

    he has a nasty temper

    he needs to keep it in check

  19. lisab says:

    Gameboy, just a warning that this type of comment drives several anti-Trump posters bonkers.

    never trumpers to mention the 15000 close family members/or female friends they have in the pennsylvania suburbs who have who have always voted republican, but who have told them that they will 100% vote for the democrat candidate in 2020 in 3 … 2 … 1

  20. Tina says:

    Is this the final post for today from the Biden Tariffs Report?

  21. Tina says:

    Canada, USA end tariffs on steel and aluminum.

    Japan ends restrictions on us beef.

    But muh trade war @ the Biden Tariffs Report.

  22. lisab says:

    The left is starting to take aim at Democratic front-runner Joe Biden. At a conference this week, liberal activists repeatedly booed when told that Biden wanted to find “middle ground” on climate policy. When an audience member shouted “No middle ground!” Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) replied, “No middle ground is right!” and declared “I will be damned if the same politicians who refused to act come back today and say we need a middle-of-the-road approach to save our lives.” Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) joined in her criticism, “There is no ‘middle ground’ when it comes to climate policy.”

  23. NYCmike says:

    “Canada, USA end tariffs on steel and aluminum.

    Japan ends restrictions on us beef.”

    -I am sure Trump will try to change this, as he is a lifelong protectionist and lover of tariffs.

  24. Tgca says:

    So Mayor Butt thinks they should banish Jefferson’s name because he was a slaveholder and therefore not someone to look up to as honorable. Ha! Ha! Ha!

    1st he alienates AA by appearing to protect racist white police by demoting a well respected AA police chief. Now he wants to obliterate Jefferson from public life.

    …and folks think this Butt boy has what it takes to win independents and midwesterners on a national level because he’s a Midwesterner?

  25. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisa’s apparently know more about PA voters than people who live in PA. Well, she is an expert on being a gay man even though she is not a man or gay.

  26. Tina says:

    So, Fib was investigating Flynn’s Russian ties that he cleared with the ODNI, while paying him as a consultant, per his financial disclosure report.

  27. Proud Obamacon says:

    BJ and Lisa both alleged left leaners will somehow magically find a reason to vote for the Pussy Grabber … whatever yall


  28. jason says:

    The AFL-CIO conservatives here are really in great company.

    “Earlier this week, the anti-Green New Deal American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations — otherwise known as the AFL-CIO — called for the working class to “seize the means of production.”

  29. Wes says:

    Gameboy types the exact thing about Sanders supporters I saw said about Hillary voters on here in 2008. (Remember the so-called PUMAs?)

    There’s as much evidence it’ll work out that way now as there was back then.

    It’s really quite simple:

    Trump is an unpopular President whose favorability has consistently been in the danger zone for incumbents and has rarely risen above that threshold—never for a sustained period of time.

    That’s a clear recipe for defeat.

    All of the Rube-Goldberg scenarios declaring his reelection are just as substantial as the infamous Delbov Curve was.

    It never had to be this way. Trump could have grown up and acted presidential. That would have assured his reelection. He hasn’t. He won’t. That’s why he’ll lose.

  30. dblaikie says:

    I appreciate Wes’s certainty, but I am afraid it is unfounded. Countering the question of Trump’s unpopularity is an unpopular Democratic Party lurching left and overreaching with their investigations. In addition we have a field of dem candidates who is led by a man who seems to be more senile each month. Finally we are in the midst of a good economy. That is a clear recipe for victory if things don’t change.

  31. Ron N says:

    I hate to say this but if Trump would of acted presidential. He would have been impeached if he didn’t fight back. If he was quiet like bush he would be gone or his numbers would be worst then they are now.

  32. Wes says:

    You seem to have a thing for non sequiturs, Ron.

    Bush was a faux cowboy who was incapable of fighting back.

    I was thinking of the most successful GOP President of the 20th Century—Ronald Reagan, who acted presidential and and marginalized his enemies by making it impossible for Americans to dislike him.

    Conflating being presidential with a pansy is simply a case of intellectual dishonesty.

  33. Wes says:

    DB, I have a challenge for you:

    List for me every President with Trump’s popularity level who’s actually won reelection.

    You’ll have a very short list, I can assure you.

  34. mnw says:

    Just got back from the Blues game. Play “Gloria”!

  35. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Am reminded of the Young Turk election meltdown in 2016 where they began the program proving how it was impossible for Trump to win, and then the election returns came in and the melt down began.

  36. gameboy says:

    #19 I live in the heart of the Philly suburbs….next township over from the Bitterlaw guy. I suspect walking distance from the old MD poster.
    From what I can tell in my circle of friends, folks at work, etc. Trump has picked up marginal support from 2016.

  37. Tina says:

    A lie told often enough = Russian Dossier that Comedy pushed.

    James Comey
    · 8h
    The president claiming the FBI’s investigation was “TREASON“ reminds me that a Russian once said, “A lie told often enough becomes the truth.” That shouldn’t happen in America. Who will stand up?

  38. Tgca says:


  39. Bitterlaw says:

    Gameboy – Interesting. Of the people I know, the ones who voted for Trump will vote for him again. However, I know people who did not vote for President in 2016 because they hated Trump and Clinton equally. They will all vote for the Democrat in 2020. They will also vote straight GOP in the other races.

  40. Tgca says:

    1st, I know it’s only anecdotal but folks I know that were against Trump from day one seem to have accepted him for the way he is at this point and are now used to his personality. They don’t fret over his tweeting and behavior anymore because he has normalized it, and he has picked up supporters among them, including here.

    2nd, the national polls consistently show he is where he was or above on Election Day so if he could win at that level against HRC, the current cast of Dem clowns have an uphill battle to defeat him. However, at the end of the day, it’s state by state that matters.

    3rd, I think GOP and Indy’s will look at accomplishments over personality when it comes time to vote as long as the accomplishments still keep coming and they consider the alternative Dem cast of clowns.

    4th, don’t discount the damage the Dems and MSM have done to themselves by pushing all these investigations, and the resulting DOJ investigations on the FBI and other Clinton loyalists which might just make it easier for folks in the middle to accept that Trump was a target all along.

    5th, neither party can win without moderates and I just can’t see the Dems grabbing those moderates with the cast of clowns they have running.

    6th, Trump won the white male and female vote in 2016 and I suspect that will happen again in larger numbers with all the anti-white and anti-male messages being pushed by the far left.

    7th, I believe Trump has energized his base and plus some that are very loyal to him, and even though the left was more energized in 2018, I’m not sure they will sustain that as he constantly beats them at the game.

    8th, I truly believe their is civil war on the left with all these folks fighting, and not all Bernie core voters will accept a 2nd loss and embrace the Dem candidate. I think enough of them will become unraveled if they perceive he is sidelined again. These are not the most rational folks.

    9th, it will be the economy economy economy for the vast amount of moderates, and Latinos, of whom he did well with in the last election compared to previous GOP candidates are benefiting greatly so I don’t see them abandoning him over immigration issues.

    …and just to round it out to 10th, I am never wrong on these things because I’m an expert in these matters just as LisaB is an expert in gay males so as long as the economy keeps bustling, the MSM and Dems behave the way they do, and more comes out on the DOJ and FBI behavior, anti-white messages persist with the Dem candidates, me thinks Trump is re-elected.

  41. Tgca says:

    39 Bitter

    I know it’s only anectdotsl but I’m seeing the opposite among folks I know in Jersey and CA. They include Latino, Asian, Jewish, and women and who have reluctantly come over to Trump because of where the Dem party is going.

    I question the sanity of GOP voting for Bernie or Kamala or Booker over Trump because they don’t like his tweeting and obnoxious behavior. It’s like the Jews voting for Nazis. The Dems wish to marginalize and penalize GOP constituents so if GOP folks are foolish enough to vote for folks who want to harm them, so be it. It defies logic and shows their anti-Trump hate outweighs their common sense.

    So in summary, you know STOOPID people!

  42. Tina says:

    What time do we get a new post from the admin. of the Biden-Tariffs Report?

  43. Hugh says:

    Tgca. I agree. The other day my gay brother in law who is a moderate democrat tells my wife and I he will vote this time for trump. He thinks he’s an unpresidential jerk who gets things done and the dems have become lunatics. He says the tweeting while annoying is already baked into the cake and it doesn’t matter any more.

  44. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    mnw and ChiCon:
    Your Blues survived near death last night, but, once again, played a lousy final period. They skated like they were playing in mud.
    The team’s first post-season acquisition, win or lose, should be a Conditioning Coach.

  45. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Tgca and Hugh:
    So you know, today the Conservative Parties in Austrailia defied all pre-election polls, which showed them losing badly, to score an upset victory over the Leftist Parties.
    The Aussie political pundits are comparing the election to Trump’s surprise 2016 Presidential win. Trump has really shaken things up worldwide.
    Of course, social media platforms are full of Liberal rage. Initially, the Losers claimed they would depart Austrailia for New Zealand and Canada. An hour later, they said that Climate Denial and Racism won the day. I guess that sometime soon, we will hear about Russian Collusion and interference!

  46. Tgca says:

    43. Hugh

    Long time no see. How are Hugh. Ha! Pun intended.

    You keeping FL warm for my visit next month? I’ve not been there since late last summer.

    From what I’ve seen in people I know, they discount the Trump behavior as par for the course and tolerate it as long as he continues to have accomplishments.

    Without the MSM and Dems against him 24/7, I do believe he would be at 50 to 53 approval in this climate with a good economy but no sense in wishful thinking.

    Granted, his behavior does make him an easier target but even if he was easy going as Reagan, the MSM and Dems would behave the same because they just hate the GOP policies regardless of the personality and they abhor the success of the GOP. It’s all about votes and power.

    I’m not sure Reagan could thrive in this environment today because he just did not have the personality to deal with such hatred. But who knows, folks can adapt under the toughest situations.

  47. Tgca says:

    45. Sheeple

    Clearly the folks in Australia are racist. I was not aware the conservatives prevailed down under. I’ll have to check that out later.

  48. Just Fill Out The Census says:

    I am fortunate enough to be in Philadelphia on personal business and may have the opportunity to attend the BIDEN LAUNCH RALLY!

    The city is buzzing this morning with excitement. Based on my observations, Pennsylvania is voting blue in 2020. The election won’t even be close.

    Trump is finished here!

  49. Tina says:

    Can somebody let Comedy know that he is obstructing several criminal investigations? The Obumbler is not there to help him,

    James Comey
    · 11h
    The AG should stop sliming his own Department. If there are bad facts, show us, or search for them professionally and then tell us what you found. An AG must act like the leader of the Department of Justice, an organization based on truth. Donald Trump has enough spokespeople.

  50. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #47- Tgca
    I’ll save you some time. Here is the link to the Austailian election results:

  51. Tina says:

    Mulehead will not testify in the House because Republicans are meanies. Prolly better luck with Da Nang Dicks Committee in the Senate and the corrupticons.

    “He doesn’t want to be trashed by the Republicans,” said Rep. Jackie Speier (D-Calif.), who serves on the Intelligence Committee and is close to Speaker Nancy Pelosi, a fellow California Democrat.

    “Does anyone want their reputation dragged through the mud falsely? You’ve seen Jim Jordan [R-Ohio] in action. He can handle his own, but they’ll ask questions like, ‘Why didn’t you look at this and why didn’t you look at that?’ I mean, talk about a thankless job.”

  52. mnw says:


    RE: ‘conditioning coach”

    Can’t agree with that. Agree completely, though, that Blues were out of gas throughout the second half last night.

    Here’s the thing, though. The bread & butter of this team for 97 games (so far), has been out-muscling their opponents on the boards. USUALLY, it’s been the OTHER team that looks exhausted in the third period. That’s what the Blues do.

    So I don’t think conditioning is the problem. The big weaknesses, imo, have been special teams & puck management when the other team pulls its goalie. And they need to take more low percentage shots, too.

  53. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Climate Change hysteria Down Under goes down! Poor people voted for the Party that does NOT want to spend a fortune on this matter.

  54. Hugh says:

    Tgca life is good in Florida. Retiring sort of in less than a year and will finally get a boat for my new dock to enjoy the good Florida life, state tax free. Hope all is well in my favorite byob town. But if I remember right you don’t drink so I have no idea why you moved there.

  55. Wes says:

    Ronald Reagan—dubbed the media an “amiable dunce,” called Ray-gun derisively because of his concern with military buildup, openly speculated as the trigger for a nuclear holocaust, repeatedly labeled “anti-poor”—lacked the personality to deal effectively with the media attacks Trump endures?

    Well, the 1984 results say otherwise.

    You really must not do a goddamn bit of research but just post whatever Trump-fluffing nonsense comes to mind, Tg.

  56. Wes says:

    As for all these anecdotes I’m seeing about how about how liberals are turning to Trump or joining some shadowy cabal intended to help Trump win re-election because only Bernie is pure enou

  57. Wes says:

    gh for them, I saw nearly identical posts with the names changed in 2008–a year also featuring a perennially unpopular GOP President.

    How’d that work out for you?

  58. Phil says:

    Depends on the economy. I think Trump beats Harris, Warren or Sanders. They are just too leftist. Biden? Very much uphill IMO.

  59. Phil says:

    Apparently the left made climate change the centerpiece of their campaign and went all in on it. Well, that didn’t work. I have always believed the climate change stuff wouldn’t fly as a big Election Day winner regardless of the country. The only people that get fired up about it are people on the fringe like AOC.

  60. Hugh says:

    Australia is much more focused on climate change America. And it was loser there

  61. Wes says:

    It was hilarious to see the environmental loons go down to stinging defeat in Australia, Phil.

    Of course the ruling conservatives have been good stewards of the country and avoided looking like jackasses, so with the added benefit of a strong economy Australians had a solid incentive to maintain the status quo.

  62. Here is the headline from CNN regarding the Australian election: “Australian PM Scott Morrison claims historic win after Labor loses ‘unlosable’ election.”

    The Australian election and the U.S. elections in 2016 are examples of why it is folly for posters to state with 100% certainty that Trump will lose in 2020.

  63. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    As in recent Canadian elections, the rejection of ecosocialist appears to be a factor in a leftist party losing.

    “It was billed as the climate change election, and the climate lost.
    Despite enduring its hottest year on record and a series of environmental calamities that have brought the climate emergency into sharp relief, Australia has voted for the centre-right Liberal party and its coalition partner, and against taking forceful action on the climate crisis.
    The ruling Coalition looks set to be returned to government, albeit possibly with the support of independents, in a remarkable victory given that the Labor opposition has won every opinion poll since mid-2016.
    The election was framed as a great climate showdown. The Coalition has held power over a tumultuous six years, during which two prime ministers have been toppled and it has suffered from catastrophic infighting, largely over energy policy, as it has has been unable to agree on taking action on the climate crisis or even agree as to its reality. The Labor party, which proposed introducing a target of reducing emissions by 45% by 2030, said the difference between the parties’ policies on the climate crisis was “night and day, black and white”.
    The Coalition has proposed a “climate solutions” fund that pays polluters to lower their emissions. Experts have questioned whether this will achieve Australia’s commitment under the Paris agreement to lower emissions by 28%. The Coalition has also said it would support new coalmines and, just two days before the election was called, pushed through environmental approvals needed to progress the controversial Adani coalmine project near the Great Barrier Reef.”

  64. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The quote in #63 is from the Guardian, which is in a state of shock. They now have likely losses in European parliament elections and Canadian national elections to look forward to.

  65. Wes says:

    As opposed to posters who say with 100% certainty Trump can’t lose, SDC?

    Conveniently your criticism goes 100% to one group.

    As for the Australian elections, Labor tried the Hillary strategy of ignoring one whole area of the country to get votes elsewhere. It worked out so well for her Labor decided to try to replicate her success. 🙄

    Also, Australia has a robust economy, and the government isn’t unpopular—certainly not the way Theresa May is in Britain. I wonder how much of the perception of Labor’s victory was herd mentality and how much was based on tangible evidence of their supposedly impending victory.

  66. Tina says:

    Does the Biden Tariffs Report have the crowd size for the philly rally?

    Looked smallish on the pics.

  67. Tina says:

    Arnold was attacked in South Africa, He is fine.

    Looks rippped for 71 years old.

  68. Tgca says:

    55. Do some history? I was there!

    I remember watching the Reagan debates.

    I remember watching news coverage of Reagan.

    I remember reading about him in The NY Times and Wall St Journal when they were actually writing informative articles.

    I remember discussing Reagan in current events in history in a very Dem town where they went against Reagan big time but teachers were not vitriolic about him as you find today.

    Reagan was made fun and mocked, yeah, like every GOP POTUS but he faced nothing like the press that GWB and Trump faced. Not even close! The press was harsh at times but they were not like the so-called journalists of today because many knew there were lines not to cross and they had some dignity to leave some of their most bias at the door and not put it in the face of the American people which was a different generation and would not have tolerated it.

    Many newscasters back in the day appeared very balanced on TV and did not show open contempt and hatred the way they do today.

    Reagan also faced a completely different demographics and was part of the greatest generation who are all but gone now and were patriotic back then and actually cared about the US over illegals, criminals, climate hypocrisy, gender-bender issues, reparations, etc. The demographics are different. Reagan would get barely 40% if even that today in his home state of CA.

    Reagan could not win any of the states Clinton won and I doubt he would have won PA, WI, and MI too which means he could not get elected today. Trump won PA, MI, and WI simply because he resonated with the angst of angry white males left behind and degraded by elite Dems. Reagan preaching a shiny city on the hill today would do nothing to win those folks over today. They did not want to hear pep talks. They wanted a fighter to stick it in the face of Dems and thats why they won the presidency for Trump. He fought for them and gave it back to the Dems and MSM unlike any GOP politician ever before, and that strategy won him the WH against all other GOP candidates, otherwise, we would have POTUS Clinton today because not a single 2016 GOP candidate could beat Hillary.

    So living history is a bit different than reading some summary embellished notes put out today.

  69. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    65. “As opposed to posters who say with 100% certainty Trump can’t lose, SDC?”

    Wes, I actually at this point would rate Biden more likely to win than Trump. However, and the point I was making against all sides, is it its too early to know for sure. The outcome is still uncertain — you say it is impossible for Trump to win. You said the same thing in 2016, and here was your election night post:

    Wes says:
    November 9, 2016 at 12:13 am
    Congratulations to all Trump supporters.
    He did the impossible.

    At this point, I don’t know who is going to win, and believe it is likely to be a close race.

  70. dblaikie says:

    33 Wes two can play at the history game. According to the Brookings Institution in the modern political era no incumbent has lost in the middle of a vibrant economy. But more than that is that Trump broke the mold for Presidential Candidates and has turned elections on their head. So frankly I don’t know for sure if a strong economy will push Trump over the finish line, but I tend to think it will. If the Economy goes south than his reelection is in serious jeopardy.

    However against this is the incredible actions of the democratic party in the last six months. I have watched with amazement how they have fallen from their strong position after the Government shutdown to what they are today. Trump derangement syndrome is a destructive force in this cycle and if they keep up illogical overreaching they will lose. More than that their field of 22 is incredibly weak. I have real doubts about Uncle Joe sharpness of mind and his energy level. The rest are pathetic candidates.

    So despite deep unpopularity along the coasts and around places like Austin I think he has the advantage. Especially when you factor in that his core of support is unwavering at about 40%. He won 2016 with 46%. In the sheme of things getting that 6 to 10 points will not be that difficult — as long as the economy remains strong.

  71. Tina says:

    Shh, do,not tell comedy that a Russian did not make this statement.

    James Comey
    · 18h
    The president claiming the FBI’s investigation was “TREASON“ reminds me that a Russian once said, “A lie told often enough becomes the truth.” That shouldn’t happen in America. Who will stand up?

  72. NYCmike says:

    “As opposed to posters who say with 100% certainty Trump can’t lose, SDC?”

    -I will say, with 100% certainty, that when Wes says something, he believes it with 101% CERTAINTY.

  73. mnw says:


    I dunno what you’re quoting there, but it makes our MSM look like exemplars of objectivity by comparison.

  74. 74. It was a quote from the very far left Guardian newspaper, which was looking forward to a Labor victory in Australia, and their support for a carbon tax and other extreme climate-related measures. It was breakthrough moment in the crusade to save the Earth from climate change. They are devastated at the loss.

    If Trudeau is voted out later this year, it will be another major defeat in the battle against climate change. If Trump is re-elected in 2020, the planet will then be doomed.

  75. mnw says:

    The Guardian also did that disastrous thing where they asked their readers to write to OH voters in 2012, urging them to vote for Kerry.

    Dogs didn’t like that dog food at all.

  76. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The leftist climate warriors are having a complete meltdown because of the outcome of the Australian election. They thought it would prove that voters were ready to support a radical climate change agenda. Losing this one is devastating given that climate change was a major issue in the campaign.

    It is likely one reason for the results is that too much renewable energy in the South Australia, particularly wind turbines, has resulted in major power outages. Besides unreliability, it has also resulted in the state having some of the highest energy prices in the world.

  77. mnw says:

    As Booker has stated, to his credit, the only way Green renewable energy plans will ever be practical is if you add nuclear power to the mix.

    The left would drink Jim Jones’ special Kool Aid* before they’d allow THAT.

    *(I realize it was a Kool Aid knock off, not Kool Aid, but the legend has become fact.)

  78. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is a great tweet comparing Britain’s wind energy providing a week without coal, and France which gets most of its energy from nuclear power.

    “The UK’s success at going an entire week without burning coal is to be applauded, but right now France’s electricity is roughly ONE TENTH the carbon intensity of the UK, and they’ve been doing this for forty years.

  79. lisab says:

    regarding trump vs. biden in 2020

    if both are still alive and are the nominees

    and assuming there is no catastrophe on either side

    then both are almost guaranteed 40% of the vote

    they have a great shot at both getting 45% of the vote

    leaving just 10% to fight over.

    trump needs about 3 or 4% of the middle 10% to win the election given the demographics.

    it is a coin flip, with a slight edge to trump.

    i think this is one of the times when the debates will be meaningful.

    cnn: orangeman … i mean mr. trump … can you please explain the impact of government regulations … *cough* you suck *cough* … on micro and small enterprise’s performance … *cough* you suck *cough* … and the improvement of their business opportunities under obama?

    trump: blah blah blah … maga … blah blah blah

    cnn: mr. biden your holiness … what is your favourite colour?

    biden: i like orange … wait … no … ummmmm … red … i meant red

  80. lisab says:

    The UK’s success at going an entire week without burning coal is to be applauded,

    or we could burn coal which is one-third the cost of nuclear power

  81. lisab says:

    don’t get me wrong, i am all for the new forms of nuclear power … just don’t build the power plants next to major population centers or fault lines or oceans

  82. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    81. “or we could burn coal which is one-third the cost of nuclear power”

    Pay a visit to a major Chinese city, and you will see & taste why China is switching to natural gas as fast as it can.

  83. Here is a You Tube video of Chinese cities power by coal.

  84. lisab says:

    What do we know about massage therapists? They like to rub strangers for money while they listen to the “Avatar” soundtrack. That’s a red flag. Those are the traits of a serial killer.

    I never know what to say during the massage. Sometimes I’ll try to break the ice: “Hey, you’re not allergic to leprosy, are you?”

    They never laugh. You know why? ‘Cause they’re busy imagining making a suit out of my skin. ’cause they’re murderers! They already put the lotion in the basket.

    So that’s why I still have a sore neck.

    jim gaffigan

  85. lisab says:

    here is indianapolis

    indiana is one of the heaviest users of coal 🙂

  86. lisab says:

    of course sdc does bring up a good point

    maybe it is not a good idea to offshore our factories to china …

    the chinese government is a little irresponsible

  87. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The most important environmental benefit the Earth is now experiencing, including reduction in greenhouse gases, is China rapidly replacing coal use with natural gas. And lets not forget that the reason for the China’s coal use is to supply U.S. consumers goods — we exported our pollution to China, so that liberal politicians can claim to be environmentalists.

    “A total of 4.8 million Chinese households made the switch from coal to natural gas and electricity in 2018, up from 4 million households who had switched away from coal in 2017, Reuters quoted Li as saying at a press conference on Monday.

    “The things that could easily be done have already mostly been done, and the things that need to be done afterwards are much harder,” Li said.

    In the previous winter, the coal-to-natural gas switch policy led to gas shortages in many areas in north China, but the country has managed its natural gas imports and needs much better this winter season. The policy to curb coal use resulted in China becoming the key driver on the global liquefied natural gas (LNG) market over the past few years.

    In 2018, China’s natural gas imports—including pipeline and LNG imports—soared by nearly 32 percent from 2017 to a record 90.39 million tons, solidifying China’s position as the world’s biggest importer of the fuel.”

    A total of 4.8 million Chinese households made the switch from coal to natural gas and electricity in 2018, up from 4 million households who had switched away from coal in 2017, Reuters quoted Li as saying at a press conference on Monday.

    “The things that could easily be done have already mostly been done, and the things that need to be done afterwards are much harder,” Li said.

    In the previous winter, the coal-to-natural gas switch policy led to gas shortages in many areas in north China, but the country has managed its natural gas imports and needs much better this winter season. The policy to curb coal use resulted in China becoming the key driver on the global liquefied natural gas (LNG) market over the past few years.

    In 2018, China’s natural gas imports—including pipeline and LNG imports—soared by nearly 32 percent from 2017 to a record 90.39 million tons, solidifying China’s position as the world’s biggest importer of the fuel.

  88. lisab says:

    i have more pictures of my children on my iphone,

    than my father ever looked at me

    jim gaffigan

  89. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    86. “here is indianapolis indiana is one of the heaviest users of coal”

    Sorry lisab, Indiannapolis just switched from coal to natural gas; Indiana is going in that direction too.

    “Three years ago, Indianapolis Power & Light sent a shudder through the coal industry when it converted its Harding Street Station power plant—which used to burn 2 million tons of coal a year—to natural gas, ending a coal tradition that began when the plant opened in 1931. A few months later, IPL converted the coal-fired units at its Eagle Valley power plant in Martinsville to natural gas.
    Other Indiana electric utilities are heading in the same direction.”

  90. mnw says:


    Did not know that. Interesting.

  91. lisab says:

    indiana is the most coal burning state in the union by percentage

    texas is by actual tonnage

    both look spectacular!

  92. lisab says:

    One of the nation’s top coal producers, about two-thirds of the coal mined in Indiana never leaves the state. Contributing to nearly 85% of the state’s total energy, coal is disproportionately represented in Indiana’s the energy mix. In 2014, the state consumed 48.9 million tons of coal, producing a total 97.7 million MwH. As in many other states, the consumption of natural gas is on the rise in Indiana. While natural gas produced only 1.9% of the state’s energy in 2004, a decade later, more than 8% of electricity in Indiana was generated by natural gas. Texas is the only state that consumes more coal than Indiana.

  93. lisab says:

    although i have nothing against natural gas

    (except the problems from fracking)

  94. Wes says:

    Justin Amash backs impeaching Trump:

    Despite my clearly bleak view of Trump’s re-election prospects, I have never backed impeachment. Amash is a Ronulan loon. I hope to God this idiocy causes some Republican to challenge him and oust him from Congress.

  95. Wes says:

    I am pro choice. I have mixed feelings about the Alabama abortion bill. That said, I can’t fathom how stupid Bill Weld is to say this:

    Even Donald Trump after decades of a staunch pro-choice position was smart enough to know not to say something like this in a GOP primary. This is one more reason among many Weld will lose overwhelmingly to Trump in the primaries.

  96. lisab says:

    weld is an alcoholic

    he was a great governor, but the statehouse had a two drink minimum under his administration

  97. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    97. “but the statehouse had a two drink minimum under his administration.”

    Saying good things about him will still not get me to vote for him.

  98. Tgca says:

    94 LisaB

    You have nothing against natural gas?

    Good to hear. Me neither. But I do try to limit the amount of beans I eat though especially during lunch because the afternoon meetings can be difficult then.

  99. Tgca says:


  100. Tina says:

    Just Amoron is no conservative. He has voted to allow illegals to vote in municipal,elections (only 1 r in house to do so).

    Just Amoron also refused to condemn the two IEDs in congress for their anti Semitic actions. Ayatollah Tilab just reached out to him. The Palestine Wing in Congress now appears mobilized.

    Fine, he is for impeachment, but he also attacked Barr, accusing him of misleading. He cited no basis for this, along with his “points” that he tweeted,

    Finally, Just Amoron will now face some Primary challengers.

    Of further concern, is Just Amoron owns a business with operations in China that depend on importing cheap product into the US. He is clearly upset with the impact of Tariffs, (Dynamic Source International).

    He needs to

  101. Tina says:

    (Forgot to delete my last sentence and hit submit too soon)*

  102. trumpispetewilson says:

    There certainly is a moron here but it’s not who you’re referring to …

  103. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #95 & #101
    You have your wish! Amash is toast and he knows it. He will run as an Independent for President to diminish Trump’s 2020 chances in Michigan.

  104. dblaikie says:

    First Amash has to win the libertarian nomination, which is very possible but hardly a certainty. But even if he does I would wager he won’t get anymore votes in Michigan than Johnson got in 2016 (172,000).

    Good way to destroy a career.

  105. Wes says:

    I went to RRH to see what their “Republicans” had to say about Amash. One of the Napoleons running the site posted this Stalinesque statement on the first page:

    Be warned Sunday night Game of Throne spoilers will get you banned! Please check out our

  106. Wes says:

    Amash may run for President as an Indy, but I think he’s more likely just to leave electoral politics altogether after next year’s primary.

  107. Tina says:

    Jack Murphy
    Did you know:

    Justin Amash was the only Republican in the House to vote against Kate’s Law. He also voted against the No Sanctuary For Criminals Act.

    Justin Amash supports illegal immigrant criminals more than the American people.

    Justin Amash is a disgrace to all Americans.

  108. Phil says:

    Amash? Never heard of him. Well, he’s about to be CNN’s new daily guest. Hey, they’ve been searching for a replacement for Michael Avenatti. Can’t use the porn lawyer any longer so look for Amash to be the nightly replacement. This guy is perfect. Look for this guy to be on Colbert and a guest spot on the View this week as well. Chris Mathews to hail this clown as the next profile in courage. So predictable.

  109. Phil says:

    Romney calls Amash “courageous”

    Good God.

  110. Phil says:

    BTW, who do I see to get the $600 back that I contributed to Romney’s 2012 campaign?

  111. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    Never a fan of
    , a total lightweight who opposes me and some of our great Republican ideas and policies just for the sake of getting his name out there through controversy. If he actually read the biased Mueller Report, “composed” by 18 Angry Dems who hated Trump,….

    ….he would see that it was nevertheless strong on NO COLLUSION and, ultimately, NO OBSTRUCTION…Anyway, how do you Obstruct when there is no crime and, in fact, the crimes were committed by the other side? Justin is a loser who sadly plays right into our opponents hands!

  112. Tina says:

    Rep. McCarthy: on (Asquish aka Amash

    He wants to have attention… He votes more with Nancy Pelosi than he ever votes with me. It’s a question of whether he is even in our Republican conference as a whole… He wants a Sunday show to put his name forward with a question.

  113. lisab says:

    Biden rejects Democrats’ anger in call for national unity

    he thinks he has the nomination

  114. lisab says:

    Calvin Klein is apologizing after the fashion label came under fire for a video campaign showing model Bella Hadid kissing female robot Lil Miquela.

    The 30-second ad drew backlash since Hadid identifies as heterosexual, with critics commenting, “There are plenty of real LGBTQ Models that could have been used.”

  115. Wes says:

    He’s probably right, Lisa. The Dems tapping directly into the bellicose #Resist rhetoric have all fallen back because they’re strictly reactionary and give no tangible reason to support them. Meanwhile, Biden understands the best way to beat Trump is to give people a reason not only to vote against Trump but to vote for Biden.

    Negative campaigning does work but backfires in most instances when not accompanied by any kind of positive attributes for a candidate.

    See Nelson-Hagel 1996 as an example.

    That year, Nelson started with a wide lead over Hagel. When the then-Governor realized Hagel was giving him a real race and campaigning hard for the seat Nelson dropped virtually all positive spots and went all in on attacking his opponent. This played right into Hagel’s hands he highlighted how Nelson was betraying a 1994 campaign promise not to seek a Senate seat and was trying to disqualify his opponent rather than give reasons why Nebraskans should put Nelson in the Senate. Hagel ultimately won 56-42.

    Similarly in 1980, Jimmy Carter went full negative on Ronald Reagan, who responded by highlighting Carter’s deficiencies in the White House and promised to improve Americans’ lives. Reagan won in a landslide, beating Carter in the Electoral College worse than Roosevelt had beaten Hoover.

    Biden is a savvy pol who relishes campaigning. That’s why the predictions on here that Trump will outwork him and have little problem beating him are divorced from reality. Both Biden and Trump have their flaws, but each has been successful by appealing to broad swaths of the electorate other candidates ignore. With Trump mired in the political danger zone for incumbents, Biden has a greater chance of flipping voters to him than Trump has of managing to hang on to enough voters to replicate 2016.

  116. Tgca says:

    In my view, Amash is trying to capitalize and get some name recognition. He will be invited to lefty talk shows soon…just wait. CNN is already covering it as BIG news.

    So I guess he’s tired of being a CongressCritter so I expect he will be primaried and use that as an opportunity to shop around a consultant gig with CNN, MSNBC, or other lefty outlets.

    Notice how he offers no examples of How Trump or Barr are guilty of his accusations. He just refers to a one-sided report that if presented in a court of law would be shot full of holes, especially where much of the accusations are based on well-known Trump behavior and tweets.

    The TDS is amazing. Most folks will not notice this except for the extreme NeverTrumpers who will hang on every word as Gospel like they did with Avenatti and others.

    By the way, how come CNN does not have Avenatti on as a regular guest anymore? Hmm…

  117. lisab says:

    turns out, Amash owns a company in china

  118. Wes says:

    Amash has always been a fringe loon. He’s a contrarian just for the sake of it rather than out of any genuine principle. I’ll be glad when he’s gone from Congress.

  119. Tina says:

    Yikes, no wonder asqusih and the chamber of commerce cons are throwing up bs:

  120. Tina says:

    Remember, gop-e does not want an investigation into the predicate for the Russian hoax.

    Some of them likely knew it was bs well in advance, but carried on the scam.

  121. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) endorsed President Trump’s move to further tax Chinese goods, calling it “essential to keep China from continuing to kill our jobs.”

    “The Chinese don’t write checks to the American treasury. We’re paying for the cost of the tariff. But it’s a sacrifice, I think, which is essential to keep China from continuing to kill our jobs and kill our businesses and employ people.”
    — Romney told CNN’s Jake Tapper

    The other side: Romney called going after Mexico, Canada and the European Union for steel and aluminum tariffs a bad idea. “All the focus ought to be on China,” he said.”

    Quote from Axios

  122. lisab says:

    china is not the only game in town

    in fact they are not usually the low cost provider anymore

    other countries will start filling orders, especially if it goes on a long time

    which will be very bad for china. if a company finds a quality partner in vietnam, they likely wont switch back to china.

  123. mnw says:

    Oh, wow!

    Sharks meltdown in San Hose-A!

    Play “Gloria” again!

  124. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    127. Agree. The Chinese have always thought they could get there way regardless. A prime example is how they got themselves exempted from the Paris Climate Treaty. Exempting the nation that produced the most CO2 emissions made a mockery of the claim that there was a climate emergency. It also gave them a major competitive advantage.

  125. Bitterlaw says:

    Bold Prediction- All the fans of Game of Thrones will find something to bitch about tonight.

  126. janz says:

    “Donald Trump has distanced himself from humanity’s best qualities.” Or so says Mitt Romney on today’s Sunday show. He also doesn’t seem inclined to either endorse nor vote for him in the next election.

    What a small minded man Romney has shown himself to be.

  127. mnw says:

    Saint Mitt…patron saint of vulture capitalists.

    Someone needs to insert a serving FORK in his sanctimonious, holier-than-thou hindquarters.

    “He was too good for this mean old world. And so, I sent him to a better one.” (Rich. III)

  128. Tina says:

    Quittens is an arsehole.

    Huge downgrade compared to Hatch.

    One is a statesman and the other is a shady, used car salesperson,

  129. Tina says:

    Breaking, Jebots crushed again:

    Stormy Daniels, the jebots fantasy, now admits that there was no sexual affair with trump,

  130. Tina says:

    Well looks like an error from Schweikart, he tweeted this today, but the article is from 1/18. Disregard the last post,

    Larry Schweikart
    Porn star: I didn't have sex with Trump (link:… via

    Too bad Prorny, you still are gonna owe Trump a ton of money.

  131. Bitterlaw says:

    Romney is right. Trump is scum. I am still glad he beat Hillary.

    I can handle complex thoughts like that. No need to kiss Trump’s ass. Romney almost always votes for the GOP.

    The irony is that Tina was not always s fan of Hatch.

  132. Phil says:


    Kindly just STFU already. You don’t like Donald Trump. We get it. We got it the last time you popped off, the time before that, and the time before that……. Kindly just go away.

  133. Tina says:

    Yes, go away, Quittens, along with your dog and your station wagon.

    In all seriousness, the obumbler must have something on him,

  134. Florida Guy says:

    You guys seem to forget Trump is at his most dangerous in the final 60 days of an election. Ask Ted Cruz how his 60 days out from May 3 in Indiana went.

    Trump was getting pounded in the MSM from the end of the GOP convention to Election Day, with many here doubting he would win.

    Then truth happened: You only need to win states, not the national PV.

    You also have to take into account the “Shy Tory” factor in polls.

    And as we saw in Florida 2018 and Indiana 2018, Trump’s GOP has PHENOMENAL power outside of the cities, especially in GOP strongholds and exurbs and rural areas.

    Fasten your seat belts, yo.


  135. Tgca says:

    The Dems are just crazy. An illegal alien rapes a dog that ends in its death and he gets 60 days in jail and they release him without contacting ICE because it’s a sanctuary state. I hope this scum dies the most horrible and lengthy painful death.

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