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Biden Leads Dems in IA, NH and SC, Leads Trump By 10% Nationally

Fox News released a new poll this morning that show Donald Trump now down by double digits to Joe Biden nationally.

PRESIDENT – NATIONAL (Fox News)
Joe Biden (D) 49%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 39%

Bernie Sanders (D) 49%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 40%

Elizabeth Warren (D) 43%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Kamala Harris (D) 42%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 41%

Pete Buttigieg (D) 41%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 40%

PRESIDENT – NATIONAL – DEM PRIMARY (Fox News)
Joe Biden 32%
Bernie Sanders 13%
Elizabeth Warren 9%
Pete Buttigieg 8%
Kamala Harris 8%
Beto O’Rourke 4%
Cory Booker 3%
Amy Klobuchar 2%
Andrew Yang 2%
John Delaney 1%
Julian Castro 1%
Tulsi Gabbard 1%
Kirsten Gillibrand 1%
Tim Ryan 1%
Steve Bullock 0%
Jay Inslee 0%
Mike Gravel 0%
John Hickenlooper 0%
Eric Swalwell 0%
Michael Bennet 0%
Marianne Williamson 0%
Bill de Blasio 0%
Seth Moulton 0%
Wayne Messam 0%

This poll was done June 9-12 among 1001 registered voters. CBS News and YouGov released a new group of polls for the early Democratic primary states of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina showing Joe Biden leading in all three.

PRESIDENT – IOWA – DEM CAUCUS (CBS/YouGov)
Joe Biden 30%
Bernie Sanders 22%
Elizabeth Warren 12%
Pete Buttigieg 11%
Kamala Harris 5%
Amy Klobuchar 4%
Beto O’Rourke 4%
Cory Booker 3%
John Delaney 2%
Kirsten Gillibrand 1%
Tim Ryan 1%
Steve Bullock 1%
Tulsi Gabbard 1%
Jay Inslee 1%
Mike Gravel 0%
Julian Castro 0%
John Hickenlooper 0%
Eric Swalwell 0%
Michael Bennet 0%
Andrew Yang 0%
Marianne Williamson 0%
Bill de Blasio 0%
Seth Moulton 0%
Wayne Messam 0%

PRESIDENT – NEW HAMPSHIRE – DEM PRIMARY (CBS/YouGov)
Joe Biden 33%
Bernie Sanders 20%
Elizabeth Warren 17%
Pete Buttigieg 10%
Kamala Harris 7%
Beto O’Rourke 4%
Cory Booker 3%
Amy Klobuchar 1%
Kirsten Gillibrand 1%
Andrew Yang 1%
John Hickenlooper 1%
John Delaney 0%
Tim Ryan 0%
Steve Bullock 0%
Tulsi Gabbard 0%
Jay Inslee 0%
Mike Gravel 0%
Julian Castro 0%
Eric Swalwell 0%
Michael Bennet 0%
Marianne Williamson 0%
Bill de Blasio 0%
Seth Moulton 0%
Wayne Messam 0%

PRESIDENT – SOUTH CAROLINA – DEM PRIMARY (CBS/YouGov)
Joe Biden 45%
Bernie Sanders 18%
Elizabeth Warren 8%
Kamala Harris 7%
Pete Buttigieg 6%
Beto O’Rourke 4%
Cory Booker 4%
Amy Klobuchar 1%
Kirsten Gillibrand 1%
Andrew Yang 1%
Wayne Messam 1%
Mike Gravel 1%
John Hickenlooper 9%
John Delaney 0%
Tim Ryan 0%
Steve Bullock 0%
Tulsi Gabbard 0%
Jay Inslee 0%
Julian Castro 0%
Eric Swalwell 0%
Michael Bennet 0%
Marianne Williamson 0%
Bill de Blasio 0%
Seth Moulton 0%

These polls were done May 31-June 12 among likely primary voters or caucus goers in each state.

Posted by Dave at 9:31 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (130)

130 Responses to “Biden Leads Dems in IA, NH and SC, Leads Trump By 10% Nationally”

  1. Wes says:

    If Biden wins both IA and NH I don’t see how he loses the nomination.

  2. jason says:

    The owners of the Trump Report will be here soon to whine about more polls showing Biden ahead.

    Meanwhile, Trump shoots the messenger, fires his pollsters that, guess what, showed Biden ahead.

  3. Tina says:

    More illegals please.

    The gop e loves them illegals.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1140459780332560384

  4. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Don’t ignore us on the West Coast; here is a California poll.

    “California Democratic 2020 presidential primary is a wide-open race, — Los Angeles Times”

    California Democratic Primary/LA Times/Berkeley IGS
    Biden 22,
    Sanders 17,
    Harris 13,
    Warren 18,
    Buttigieg 10,
    O’Rourke 3,
    Booker 1,
    Klobuchar 1,
    Castro 1,
    Yang 1,
    Inslee 0

    https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-2020-california-democratic-primary-poll-20190613-story.html

  5. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1. “If Biden wins both IA and NH I don’t see how he loses the nomination.”

    If Biden wins IA and NH, and loses California — its a competitive race.

  6. Wes says:

    Do you really think that’ll happen, SDC?

    If Biden wins the initial two contests he’ll have a ton of momentum. As a favorite daughter of the state, Harris should be cleaning house. She would be his most formidable opponent there—at least nominally. Of course her campaign is nearly moribund, so Biden will almost certainly be the frontrunner in Cali if he takes NH and IA and keeps momentum going in the other early states.

  7. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    8. Wes, its an interesting question I understand your point on momentum. But California is a long way from NH and IA, and assume the other candidates will have active campaigns. I am also surprised that Harris is not doing better — her campaign is moribund. She just does not have any charisma or personality to her.

    There are a lot of active Bernie supporters here. But there were last time, and Clinton still won the primary. A lot will depend on Latino voters; who went heavy Hillary last time. If they go Biden, he could win. The African-American population is only about 5% in California, but it could have an impact in a tight race. Biden might carry it as well. So it is possible that momentum could result in a Biden winning.

  8. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    10. However, I would not rule out Warren winning. She could appeal to a lot of California liberal boomer types. In a tight race between several candidates its hard to predict.

  9. Bitterlaw says:

    https://www.inquirer.com/crime/philadelphia-shootings-crime-south-street-20190616.html

    I am sure that the DA, who was supported and funded by Goege Soros, will dedicate himself to prosecuting those who committed these crimes. Well, maybe after he is done prosecuting cops.

  10. lisab says:

    has anyone here actually seen biden speak recently?

    he is a has been

    he has not lost a step … he has lost a dozen steps

    he is NOT the biden that ripped ryan to shreds … he is really showing his age

    i feel sorry for him. even if he won, i am not sure he’d last a full term … he has gone down a lot since the loss of his son. the only question is will the other dem candidates take him down?

    i’d say he is 25% of what he was in 2012

  11. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    13. Watched Biden’s Iowa speech (it is now on YouTube). It was not a good performance, and Biden clearly appeared old and rambled. It could catch up with him in the campaign. A gaffe or two, and voters may think he is over the hill.

    Trump is clearly focused on Biden, questioning Biden’s mental capacity. Many people question Trump’s mental stability. So voters have a choice, which mental defect would they least like a president to have.

  12. jason says:

    I would rather discuss the Trump Report polls showing Trump ahead.

  13. jason says:

    Don’t ignore us on the West Coast;”

    Why?

  14. jason says:

    Oh, West, I read Left…

    Oh, wait… both can be true.

  15. dblaikie says:

    Leaving the political analysis for a moment, I would like to recommend a great book — Spearhead by Adam Markos. The way the media spins the story of American GI’s in Europe the war was basically won by George Patton’s 3rd Army and the 101st Airborne Division. Now understand that those who fought in 101st and the 3rd Army were great Americans with great achievements.

    However I am glad that the truth is now being told about the Spearhead Division — the 3rd Armored. They did not arrive in Normandy with that nickname, they earned it from the breakout at St. Lo to Mons to bloody Aachen to holding the line on the northern shoulder of the Bulge, to Cologne, and to the huge achievement of encircling the Ruhr where they lost their great General Maurice Rose. With the iron of tanks and the guts and heart of great men this division was the iron fist that indeed became the “Spearhead” for our forces. It is about time that this story is told.

    And importantly it is told through the eyes of a tanker from rural Pennsylvania. He and his crew would eventually be given the first Pershing Tank to take into battle. I won’t give anymore away.

    Do yourself a favor and get the book!!

  16. jason says:

    No MAGAAAAA this morning?

    Tgca must be sleeping late and did not have 15,000 calories of sugar yet.

  17. jason says:

    Thanks for the book review dblaikie, sounds like the kind of reading I would enjoy.

    Sounds like it would make a good History Channel series too.

  18. jason says:

    Tgaca’s dogs did not have their bowl of sugar and sugar bones yet either, or they would be running around barking their heads off and waking him up.

  19. Chicon says:

    For the resident prognosticators…

    https://www.redstate.com/joesquire/2019/06/17/really-really-stupid-assume-trump-will-lose-2020/

    Money quote…”You can’t say that Trump’s in trouble. Not definitively – or near definitively, as Harwood does – and not without considering all of the above issues and more. To try and be so certain about this right now is a stupid practice, lazy and completely devoid of intellectual integrity.”

    Well said.

  20. Bitterlaw says:

    I searched the Archives. Even though Dave reported polls showing candidates leading at different times,Tina never referred to HHR as:

    The GWB Report
    The Kerry Report
    The Clinton Report
    The Obama Report
    The McCain Report
    The Romney Report
    The Clinton Report (again)
    OR
    The Trump Report

    She will never explain why.

  21. jason says:

    Trump is clearly focused on Biden, questioning Biden’s mental capacity.”

    Let me give Trump some free advice. No, no need to thank me, its what I do.

    Painting Biden as a doddering old fool is not really a good strategy, the MSM will cover for him. Trump needs the senior vote so its dangerous to attack Biden on age.

    I would run against Biden by trying to destroy his “blue collar” image, which I view as Biden’s greatest asset and the greatest threat to Trump.

    Trump should show how the Dems economic policies, especially in the energy sector, will cause massive loss of jobs and return us to an era of dependency on foreign energy.

    He should make a deal with China, declare victory, pretend tariffs won like he did with Mexico, and move on before the trade wars do irreversible damage to the economy.

    He should frame the election as a referendum on socialism, not on himself.

    He should launch a series of economic initiatives targeting blacks and Hispanics with the goal of getting a minimum of 10% of the black vote and 35% of the Hispanic vote. He should specifically target these minorities in Nevada, Colorado, Florida, and North Carolina.

    He should focus on border security, not a wall, and have a virtual wall as an integral part of a border security strategy. He should make a deal on Daca, any deal will be better than the one the Dems will implement.

    Meanwhile, the GOP should invest every cent they have in securing a Senate majority, because if Trump loses, the Senate will be only thing that will prevent a complete disaster.

  22. Tina says:

    Bl wasting time looking at the archives.

    Life must be easy when you chase ambulances.

  23. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Limbaugh questions the Drudge Report.Finally. It’s hard to disagree with Rush on this one.
    Also, if you open the Drudge Report and scroll to the bottom right, you will see how Drudge’s ratings have trended down for some time.

    http://dcwhispers.com/rush-limbaugh-blasts-drudge-report-for-its-depressing-take-on-current-day-america/#6GwmK3hFhhH08qg5.97

  24. Tina says:

    I still like drudge a lot . But his site is click bait,

  25. Tina says:

    Beta male:

    I promise I’ll let boys compete in girls’ sports (link: https://hotair.com/archives/2019/06/15/beto-promise-ill-let-boys-compete-girls-sports/) hotair.com/archives/2019/…

  26. Chicon says:

    “He should focus on border security, not a wall, and have a virtual wall as an integral part of a border security strategy.”

    Just did exactly that with the deal with Mexico (I know, it’s all phony, even the 800 the Mexican military just picked up at their southern border). Doesn’t count, though, given that he threatened tariffs to accomplish what was recommended.

    Remember, Trump really wanted Mexico to do nothing about immigration so he could implement the tariffs. I read it here.

  27. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina still won’t explain her criticism of Dave when he has done the same thing for 15 years – post polls. Maybe she could send him the polls where Trump is leading and he can post them for her.

  28. Tina says:

    The explanation you seek needs to come from the site administrator, not me.

    And you still wasted time “extensively” looking at the archives?

  29. dblaikie says:

    Jason, it sure would make a great series.

  30. Bitterlaw says:

    I lied. I never look at the Archives. I just know you never went on a crusade like this before. Dave can’t explain why you are triggered. Only you can do that. This site has not changed since the beginning when it comes to posting polls.

  31. Tina says:

    I lied…

    You should have stopped after those words.

  32. jason says:

    Maybe she could send him the polls where Trump is leading and he can post them for her.”

    I still think she should have her own site, the Trump Report.

    Dave won’t post fake polls showing Trump leading, but Tina will be able to do that on her own site, the sky will be the limit.

  33. jason says:

    Chicon is very upset Trump failed to impose another tax hike on the American people.

  34. jason says:

    I think Tina’s site will be very therapeutic.

    Whenever you see a real poll showing bad news for Trump you can go to her site and see a fake poll showing him way ahead.

    I might check in once in awhile myself so I can feel better.

  35. Phil says:

    Yep, old Joe has really lost a step….actually a lot more than that. My prediction? He doesn’t make it through his first term. Whatever raving leftist he decides to put on the ticket – Beto, Harris, Warren, etc gains the WH through the back door and the transformation will be complete.

    Surprised this scenario hasn’t at least been mentioned. Highly possible and given Joe’s state even probable. Take a look at Joe – and we’re still a year and a half away from the GE itself. project, say, three years from now. It ain’t a pretty picture.

  36. jason says:

    Just did exactly that with the deal with Mexico (I know, it’s all phony, even the 800 the Mexican military just picked up at their southern border). Doesn’t count, though, given that he threatened tariffs to accomplish what was recommended.”

    Reminds me of:

    “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people”

  37. mnw says:

    Without Drudge, how could I keep up with the latest developments in sex robots?

  38. Wes says:

    Tina calls HHR “the Biden Report “ because Dave posts polls Biden leads in. Mikey calls the Trump internals shoeing Biden ahead “fake news” because a source antipathetic to Trump broke the story. This is no longer HHR. It’s now Bizarro World:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LR8_nlmo1Ec

  39. Phil says:

    By the time Biden takes office he will be older than Ronald Reagan was when Reagan left office! Let that sink in for a minute.

  40. Tina says:

    Yup bizarro world when real republicans

    Are pro China.

    Pro Mexico and pro illegals/open borders.

    Further investigation into muh Russia (despite Mulehead final word-see the SSIC).

    For “reparations”

    For obumbler care (see Senate no name)

    Bizarro world indeed

  41. Bitterlaw says:

    The Trump Report will be great. Only polls showing Trump leading will be posted.

    Utah and Alabama will be thrilled. Dave never found their polls as compelling but Tina will highlight them every day.

  42. jason says:

    The Biden Report is contagious..

    Drudge Headline

    FOX SHOCK POLL
    BIDEN LEADS BY 9
    CBS: BIDEN DOMINATES BATTLEGROUNDS

    Tina better get her site up and running soon before this epidemic spreads further.

  43. mnw says:

    RAS 48/51 & -7 today.

  44. jason says:

    I think bizarro world is where real Republicans, traditionally supporting the party for free enterprise, free markets and free enterprise, is now pro-tariffs, pro isolationism and pro-protectionism, a platform that used to be confined to Democrats and the AFL-CIO.

    I think it is bizarro world where real Republicans call those who are for free trade “pro-China”.

    I think it is bizarro world where if you are against tariffs, protectionism and isolationism, you must be “pro open borders”

  45. Chicon says:

    Jason holds tight to the “Tariffs Are Never Useful” mantra, just like a true deadender. The fervor makes me wonder if the position has ties to McCain.

  46. Tina says:

    I don’t do blogs anymore. The last time was with poster Md, a decade or so ago.

    Maybe you can do a blog with “I Lie?”

  47. jason says:

    I think Phil’s scenario is entirely credible.

    The Dems put a moonbat in as Biden’s running mate, use Biden to win the election, and then force him out as unfit in order to install the moonbat.

  48. DW says:

    Optimistic prediction for next 17 months:

    House Democrats continue to overreach and thereby push independents in the GOP direction. Trump matures a bit helping to bolster his numbers, and the economy roars along. The Dem primary process turns into a bloodbath as each candidate tries to be the furthest left believing the country is demanding socialism/communism, and in so doing, push most of the battleground states into the Trump column. As a result, Trump wins re-election with about the same numbers he got last time, and immediately Ruth Bader Ginsburg retires, and Trump replaces her with a young conservative female judge.

    Pessimistic prediction for the next 17 months:

    Trump’s numbers continue sagging due to the mixed results from the tariffs and his ongoing bombastic temperament, along with the fueling of hatred from the media. This causes Trump to continue to go off the rails until he is right out there with Alex Jones. By election day he is a total laughingstock, and the with the media getting 90% of millennials to believe Trump hired Russia to give him the 2016 win, Trump loses 2020 in a landslide that loses the senate as well as strengthens Pelosi’s grip on the house. Immediately, the new communist government awards citizenship to all illegal entrants into the country, and they make DC the 51st state ensuring they will forever hold the senate. Then they raise the number of SCOTUS members from 9 to 15, and the communist president appoints six communists to the SCOTUS, rendering the conservatives there helpless to stop anything. Then to further consolidate their power, they use ‘hate-crime’ laws to strip Christians of their voting rights, saying basically, that anyone not willing to cheer for a mentally challenged man who pays a surgeon to cut off his piece to help him pretend he’s a woman, is someone guilty of felony hate-crime and not eligible to vote. Then to raise their AA support from the 90% it already is, the communist government passes reparations laws, requiring every white household to fork over a quarter of all their assets to be distributed to impoverished African-Americans living in urban slums.

  49. jason says:

    Jason holds tight to the “Tariffs Are Never Useful” mantra,”

    Chicon holds tight to the “Tariffs are just a useful tool” mantra, instead of acknowledging what they really are, a massive tax on those who can least afford them.

    Chicon thinks that only he knows about this sneaky, secret, strategy, the Chinese and Mexicans are too stupid to have thought of the “useful tool” idea themselves.

    But rest assured, I will keep this well guarded secret here.

  50. Bitterlaw says:

    I searched my memories of 15+ years. Nearly as accurate as the Archives. I said “ lied” to get the attention of Tina through the pain meds or lemoncellos or whatever has caused her Wissing Derangement Syndrome.

  51. jason says:

    At the moment I say the pessimistic outlook is about a 3-1 favorite.

  52. Phil says:

    Yep. Biden gets the moonbats in the back door electorally. The image of VP Elizabeth Warren taking the oath of office a year after the election scares the ever living hell out of me.

  53. jason says:

    I don’t do blogs anymore.”

    It’s never too late.

    I think you will have several readers right away for the Trump Report.

    You can market the site with several catchy phrases

    “Where Trump is Always Ahead”

    “RINO/Jebot free zone”

    “Uncontaminated by real polls”

    “Reality free zone, indulge in your fantasies”

  54. Tina says:

    Trust and verify the narco state:

    Mexican authorities say they intercepted four tractor-trailers packed with nearly 800 migrants. (link: https://abcn.ws/2XPexRO) abcn.ws/2XPexRO

  55. jason says:

    The fervor makes me wonder if the position has ties to McCain.”

    I am happy to have “ties” to John McCain, a true patriot and hero with an extraordinary record of public service.

    You can have “ties” to the 60-yr old AFL-CIO big labor fat cats and their agenda of tariffs, tax hikes, protectionism and isolation.

  56. jason says:

    Stone will have trouble disproving the Russians hacked the DNC, that is the problem with his strategy. That is because the DNC never really allowed FBI access to their servers (and here you might wonder why).

    My theory is that they didn’t want the FBI uncovering other things as part of their investigation.

  57. jason says:

    Mexican authorities say they intercepted four tractor-trailers packed with nearly 800 migrants.”

    Breaking news: they didn’t intercept 25,000 other “migrants”.

  58. jason says:

    BTW, I misquoted Drudge above.

    Bernie leads Trump by 9.

  59. Phil says:

    Yeah, the Democrats could go the Bernie route – but why risk it? Nominate Biden to get the sure win and then swear in moonbat VP when President Biden croaks.

  60. Chicon says:

    Look, ma, caught another big one….

    Lol, Jason wants Trump to run on immigration, but doesn’t really want Trump to actually do anything about immigration. Use tariffs to get Mexico to actually act as a third state safe place, as required under international law? No thanks. Build a wall? No thanks.

  61. janz says:

    No matter how much you believe or disbelieve poll numbers, it’s discouraging to view numbers with such a big spread between the side you want to win and the opposing team. Consequently, it does make one wonder if there is some psych-ops quietly in play to suppress/depress DJT enthusiasm.

    In the meantime, there is the Fl rally tomorrow, kicking off Trump’s reelection campaign. With a 22,000 capacity stadium venue on hand, over a 100,000 requests for tickets, and almost 800 side events planned all around the country, it will be interesting to see what kind of a splash is created on such a well planned entry into the presidential race.

  62. Bitterlaw says:

    Janz has locked down the first All the Polls are Wrong posts of the 2020 Election.

  63. Chicon says:

    Has Bitter locked down the “Pollsters Are Just Scientists Who Would Never Try To Shape Public Opinion” posts of the 2020 election cycle?

  64. jason says:

    se tariffs to get Mexico to actually act as a third state safe place, as required under international law? No thanks. Build a wall? No thanks.”

    No thanks indeed.

    I thought you said tariffs were a needed “tool” to keep the Chinese from abusive trade practices and intellectual property theft.

    Now they are going to be used for immigration? What else do you think they could be “useful” for?

    The wall? Will never happen, at least not the way Trump is envisioning it. So if it’s not going to happen, why waste time, effort and political capital on it?

    Why not focus on border security instead, building a wall in urban areas where it is strictly necessary, and using manpower, sensors, drones, satellites and other surveillance methods in more rural areas (where the wall would not be effective anyway, it would be climbed or tunneled under without the surveillance anyway).

    So yes, Trump should run on immigration, of which border security, virtual wall, bi-partisan agreements, etc. would be part of the strategy.

    A wall or nothing will get you nothing.

  65. dblaikie says:

    Like I have said for the past few months I through trying to debunk polls I find troubling. Fox News polls go very much against the grain of the stereotype of Fox News and more often than not are depressing for the GOP. But I am realist now. If the election were held today I think that Biden win. I don’t believe by 8 points but I am not going to dismiss the poll.

    But having made Wes happy, I also need to say that I believe they are meaningless right now. Unlike some I think that Trump’s chances, if the economy remains strong are quite good. For me (poll junkies get ready to throw your tomatoes) the election models for 2020 that take into account economic factors speak to me more than the polls right. Of course that will change as 2020 grows closer and the polls can be used to either refute or begin to confirm the models. But that day is far down the road.

    But it is not just the models that give me hope just as important, is the weakness of the Dems. Even the most por dem pundits on TV claim that it is good for him to be in hiding because of his gaffs. And Elizabeth Warren! She is the modern day female Dr. Faust she would sell her soul to be President. But even worse her programs will not survive in the light a general election. Indeed I am rather optimistic when I think that Dems are about to put their hopes on Uncle Joe or Pocahontas.

  66. dblaikie says:

    I hate typoes “even the most pro dem pundits”

  67. jason says:

    onsequently, it does make one wonder if there is some psych-ops quietly in play to suppress/depress DJT enthusiasm.”

    I have no doubt some polls are designed for this purpose, certainly PPP has in the past used this strategy.

    But are you discouraged by Dave posting the available polls?

    This is a polling site, and Dave has been posting in the exact same manner for 15 years.

    So I think if you want to be “protected” from discouraging polls, maybe either find somewhere else to go or start your own blog where you can just post the encouraging ones.

    Trying to discourage Dave from posting the available polls because you don’t like the results is asinine, sorry.

  68. dblaikie says:

    More corrections: “think Biden would win”
    “good for Biden to be in hiding”

  69. jason says:

    Lol, Jason wants Trump to run on immigration, but doesn’t really want Trump to actually do anything about immigration.”

    Hello?

    This is hilarious.

    Chicon belongs to the “WE ARE WINNING by doing nothing on immigration” team here, and accuses me, who for years has proposed exactly the opposite, of not wanting to do “anything” on immigration?

    I love this place.

    The WE ARE WINNING strategy is doing just wonderful, isn’t it?

    Let’s see, record numbers of illegals crossing the border.

    Increasing number of sanctuary cities and even states.

    Increasing benefits for illegals…. driver’s licenses, housing, health care, you name it.

    Increasing number of favorable court rulings benefiting illegals.

    WE ARE WINNING!!! STAY THE COURSE!!!

  70. janz says:

    Bitter, you’re repeating posts. As for what I said….polling so far out from the election is not really very relevant as to actual outcome. Too much can happen in the long intervening time.

  71. NYCmike says:

    “Meanwhile, the GOP should invest every cent they have in securing a Senate majority, because if Trump loses, the Senate will be only thing that will prevent a complete disaster.”

    -Civics 101 is catching on……

  72. Chicon says:

    Jason speaking gibberish again. He recognizes that there’s an immigration problem. Sweet.

    Does he want to change that? Trump used tariffs to get more action out of the Mexican government than in the last 25 years. Jason’s happy, right? Nope. Trump wants to build a wall. Jason’s happy right? Nope. His main idea? A “virtual wall”. Yep, that’s it. He’s really interested in addressing the huge immigration problem. Maybe next he’ll suggest nation building in Mexico and Central America so nobody will want to come here.

  73. Wes says:

    Of course Mikey isn’t interested in a GOP Senate majority. That’s why he wanted Republicans to nominate Christine O’, Ken Buck, Todd Akin, Dick the Misogynist Bastard Mourdock, Matt Bevin, and Marlin Stutzman among many other Deadenders.

  74. NYCmike says:

    #79 – LOL!

    Your marital status has really fried your brain!

  75. Wes says:

    What my marital status has to do with anything I have no clue.

    You’re the one who frequently advocates having Republicans engage in the Mikey Maneuver™?—that is, the intentional nomination of the least electable available candidate in a competitive race.

  76. Messy says:

    Clarence Thomas and Niel Gorsuch just saved American Democracy….who’da thunk?
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/supreme-court-virginia-racial-gerrymandering

  77. Chicon says:

    Yep, a ruling that one side of the state legislature, acting alone, does not have standing to sue is certainly saving democracy.

  78. Wes says:

    In other words, Messy the Moron, on a technicality the Supreme Court let lower-level judicial tyranny overrule the constitutional power given by the people to a state legislature.

    Welcome to the Village. Who is Number One?

  79. NYCmike says:

    Oh Wesley, you slay me!

    Stop talking nonsense.

    If you are against primaries, just say so.

  80. Wes says:

    Actually, Mikey, unlike you and your buddy Mike Lee, I’ve repeatedly said voters should be able to choose their nominees in primaries. That doesn’t mean I can’t criticize voters for engaging in the Mikey Maneuver, but I absolutely believe they should have the right to go to the polls to select their nominees.

  81. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    16. “Don’t ignore us on the West Coast;”

    Why?”

    I don’t know Jason. Could it be because California has 495 delegates, versus New Hampshire having 33 delegates?

    Here is a poll from Texas done by the UT-Austin/Texas Tribune. It has the second highest number of delegates at 262, so feel free to ignore it.

    Joe Biden 23%
    Beto O’Rourke 15
    Elizabeth Warren 14
    Bernie Sanders 12
    Pete Buttigieg 9
    Kamala Harris 6
    Julián Castro 4
    Tulsi Gabbard 4
    Cory Booker 1
    John Delaney 1
    Kirsten Gillibrand 1
    Jay Inslee 1
    Amy Klobuchar 1
    Eric Swalwell 1
    Michael Bennet 0

  82. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t know Jason. Could it be because California has 495 delegates, versus New Hampshire having 33 delegates?”

    -jason didn’t know there would be any math on this test.

  83. NYCmike says:

    Wes is for the primary system……when he agrees with the candidate who has been chosen by the voters…..GOT IT!

  84. Tina says:

    Egypt’s ex president Morsi has died.

  85. dblaikie says:

    Not claiming it is a huge deal, but I find it fascinating that people are already lining up for the Trump election announcement tomorrow. All sources say it is going to be a huge crowd.

    In 2016 I was one of the first people to predict a Trump win. For me, stupid like some claim me to be, it seemed that a candidate that could attract thousands to a rally in a state had an enthusiasm advantage over the opposing candidate who could only attract 500 in the same state. Of course all through the election cycle people would lecture and deride me for finding news in crowd size. Over and over I was told it didn’t matter.

    Well it looks like the same scenario is happening at least for now. Biden is lucky to get 200 to a rally in Florida. Trump is going to get at least 100000. But I know, it means nothing, unlike polls it isn’t valid data.

    Despite the unimportance of crowd size — I can’t help but smile.

  86. Chicon says:

    DB, crowd size would matter to many, including some posters here, if Trump were drawing hundreds of people and Biden were drawings thousands.

  87. NYCmike says:

    Oh, forget that about the name….the way the first story wrote it, I thought Cdebaca was her first and only name

  88. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    91. “Biden is lucky to get 200 to a rally in Florida. Trump is going to get at least 100000. But I know, it means nothing, unlike polls it isn’t valid data.”

    You have a point; I was one of those smug people in 2016 who did not think Trump stood a chance of winning. Its why I don’t now go along with those who say Trump is totally doomed.

  89. NYCmike says:

    ” Its why I don’t now go along with those who say Trump is totally doomed.”

    -I would say the more important reason why Trump isn’t doomed is because of the Founding Fathers, and their idea about the Electoral College.

    I would bet that Trump will lose the popular vote again. In fact, I would probably give odds that he will lose the popular vote again.

    BUT, I give him at least a 50/50 chance to win the Presidency…..and I will feel that way most likely up to the day before the election, at which time I will make my prediction right here on “The Biden Report”. 🙂

  90. DW says:

    30% of the voters could be 100% enthusiastic about voting for their candidate. It doesn’t get them any more votes against the 70% of voters.

  91. janz says:

    There are times I would like to glue trump’s twitter fingers behind his back & put duct tape over his mouth. But, then I look at his domestic/foreign policy decisions, loosening of stifling regulations, stances on some social issues and I just put my irritation with his mouth & Twitter indulgences behind me.

    Also, when I analyze the sad sack lineup comprising his opponents in 2020, I double down in my hopes that trump will be successful in his re-election.

  92. Wes says:

    Once again you prove you’re a moron, Mikey. I’m always for primaries. I can criticize outcomes though too. Saying I’m against the primary system for criticizing the nomination of weak candidates is like saying people who criticize the election of politicians they don’t like. Like me they’re criticizing the set of circumstances that led to a less-than-desirable outcome, not the existence of the process.

    Of course being an idiot, you’re far too stupid to understand that.

  93. Tina says:

    Good move here:

    POLITICO
    @politico
    · 46m
    The @StateDept said no additional foreign aid will be provided for Honduras, Guatemala & El Salvador until they take “concrete actions to reduce the number of illegal migrants coming to the U.S. border.”

    “Working with Congress, we’ll reprogram those funds to other priorities”

  94. NYCmike says:

    Go ahead, Wesley-MD.

    Keep working on that name-calling! You are getting better at it.

    BUT you have a long way to go to get A-Hole status!

  95. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/mcconnell-explains-congress-stuff-to-jon-stewart-regarding-9-11-victims-fund/

    -I have to admit….the Turtle has grown on me.

    Between him and Lindsay Granite, they are doing good work!

  96. Wes says:

    Calling Mikey an idiot—which he is—is namecalling now.

    Fate forfend!

  97. NYCmike says:

    (Sticks tongue out at Wes)

    PFFFFFFFttttttttttt!

    (I loved kindergarten!)

  98. Tina says:

    Turtle is good on judges, but his response to Stewart is dumb.

    He should have told Stewart to check first with Piglosi, whose group wasted 6 months on nothing.

    I am not sure why Mitchie wants to argue with Stewart about this bill that everybody supports.

    Really dumb move.

  99. Wes says:

    Kindergarten is above your mental level, Mikey.

    You’re more on the newborn chimp level of intelligence.

    To be fair, that may be marginally higher than where most West Virginians are.

  100. janz says:

    When Normality Became Abnormal is another good read by Victor Davis Hanson.

    And, Here’s an optimistic POV, via Breitbart, regarding the 2020 election.

  101. NYCmike says:

    Tina,

    I don’t see where he argued. He said they would get it done.

  102. NYCmike says:

    Wes,

    And I get the same amount of votes that you do!

    I love this system!

  103. dblaikie says:

    DW my friend, it all depends upon how much the 70% percent are motivated to vote. In any event I think you are a touch stingy about Trump’s base — I think it is between 40-45%. But I bet were just using 30 as an example. Point taken, though, crowd size is unscientific.

    But in my earlier post I used Florida as an example. 100000 verses 500 in the same area. Maybe apples to apples crowd size comparison is a good unscientific data point.

  104. DW says:

    112 – my point is the 30% are going to vote for Trump no matter what. The 70% include those who will definitely vote Dem and those who could go either way, but aren’t strongly committed.

  105. dblaikie says:

    DW my point is that 40% or more will vote for Trump no matter what. His base is much larger than 30%.

  106. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The biggest opponent Donald Trump has in getting re-elected is Donald Trump.

  107. DW says:

    I don’t see any evidence at all that Trump’s hard-core base is any bigger than 30%. I am talking about the people with the red hats standing in line for hours to see him speak.

    Trump did not get 50% of the popular vote and still won due to EC. There were a lot of people who held their noses and voted Trump because Hillary was even more odious.

  108. Wes says:

    Easiest way to win re-election: Don’t get in your own way.

  109. Tina says:

    Look what came out of the rat nest:

    Hillary Clinton
    ?
    @HillaryClinton
    On the one hand, the president makes nonstop outlandish claims in his recent @ABC interview about my campaign and Russia. On the other hand: Paul Manafort, Michael Cohen, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, George Papadopoulos, and the entire Mueller report.

    35.3K
    7:59 AM – Jun 17, 2019

  110. Wes says:

    Trump has a flamboyant persona that attracts many and repels probably just as many. By assuming victory ahead of time, Hillary gave Trump the opening he needed to win.

    That said, Trump has not grown as President and has not persuaded new voters to his cause while simultaneously emboldening his opposition and strongly motivating them to turn out. We saw this reflected last year when although Republicans turned out, Dems swamped them with presidential year-level turnout.

    This portends bad things because Trump epitomizes the saw “Familiarity breeds contempt.” People weren’t strongly motivated against Trump when he was a glorified carnival barker hosting The Apprentice. His brash, confrontational style has routinely drowned out his Administration’s successes and put him in a weaker position than an incumbent President with his level of success should be.

    His supporters are desperately hoping House Dems will save him by their antics, but realistically Trump has not benefited from having Pelosi serve as his fool. The House is unpopular, but Trump is too. We could thus see a double voter backlash in the country next year with voters in right-leaning districts revolting against House moon bats while Trump is swept from office because he’s still playing his character from The Apprentice rather than acting like a President.

    This repeated talking point I see about “power of incumbency “ doesn’t take into account all the people who lost precisely because they were incumbents who either stayed too long or failed to conform to the kind of officeholder voters wanted.

    Unless/until Trump drops the reality show act and begins acting like a President he will be an underdog against all but the weakest potential Dem nominees for President.

    Just to head off the inevitable straw man, I’m not suggesting Trump shouldn’t fight back against his opponents. GWB did that and decimated his own party because of his weakness. On the other hand, Ronald Reagan knew how to pick his fights and always looked presidential when engaging in political battles. That’s the middle ground between himself and GWB Trump should be seeking.

  111. Tina says:

    I read here at the Biden Report that Mexico’s enforcement efforts were just a “show.” Trust but verify.

    https://apnews.com/26d89734513e4e1cb9e97cfc12ee4708

  112. Tina says:

    Oh and looks like the “threat of tariffs” worked against Mexico,

    This was not my first option, but the Chinese and Mexican .chamber of Commerce, along with Quittens, caused this,

  113. Wes says:

    Woo-hop! Dems got another C-List candidate into their primary for the right to lose to Thom Tillis.

    Last seen losing a runoff to Elaine Marshall by 22 points in 2010, Cal Cunningham now jumps into the clown car.

    RRH still counts this race as Tossup or at best Lean R. For some reason, RRH constantly salivates over predicting the political demise of NCGOP Senators.

  114. Phil says:

    ‘’Until Trump drops the reality show act he will be the underdog”

    I can agree with that one…..and I don’t mean he shouldn’t fight back. He just should pick his shots. I don’t even mind that he stays on Twitter. It’s his tool for bypassing the MSM filter. I do think he should drop the more outrageous tweets and tone it down some.

  115. NYCmike says:

    https://www.thefire.org/texas-governor-signs-unconstitutional-bills-into-law/

    -Phil, any info on this?

    The person who put it on Instapundit thinks it was a big mistake for Abbott to sign it into law.

  116. Chicon says:

    Odds that Abbott runs for President in 2024?

  117. NYCmike says:

    Not if Costello has anything to say about it!

  118. NYCmike says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0YLLkr7VfU

    -Here is Abbott, and Costello, in a debate against the Democratic candidates!

  119. Phil says:

    not really, Mike…..except to say they have gotten exactly no coverage down here whatsoever.

  120. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    127. ” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0YLLkr7VfU

    -Here is Abbott, and Costello, in a debate against the Democratic candidates! ”

    The slow tall one is Biden.
    The well dressed on is Sanders
    The hairy one is Beto

  121. jason says:

    16. “Don’t ignore us on the West Coast;”

    Why?”

    I don’t know Jason. Could it be because California has 495 delegates, versus New Hampshire having 33 delegates?”

    Wow, Ma, I didn’t think that Obvious Brand Bait worked…..