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Biden Leads Dems Nationally By 7% and in SC By 21%

NBC News and The Wall Street Journal have a poll out today showing Joe Biden holding onto a 7% lead over Elizabeth Warren with Kamala Harris and Bernie Sanders tied for third place.

PRESIDENT – NATIONAL – DEM PRIMARY (NBC/WSJ)
Joe Biden 26%
Elizabeth Warren 19%
Kamala Harris 13%
Bernie Sanders 13%
Pete Buttigieg 7%
Andrew Yang 2%
Beto O’Rourke 2%
Everyone Lese 1% or less

This poll was done July 7-9 among 400 Democratic primary voters. Meanwhile in South Carlina, Biden still holds a dominating lead on the field according to a new poll from Fox News.

PRESIDENT – SOUTH CAROLINA – DEM PRIMARY (Fox News)
Joe Biden 35%
Bernie Sanders 14%
Kamala Harris 12%
Elizabeth Warren 5%
Cory Booker 3%
Pete Buttigieg 2%
John Delaney 1%
Marianne Williamson 1%
Andrew Yang 1%
Everyone Else <1%

This poll was done July 7-10 among 801 registered Democratic primary voters.

Posted by Dave at 8:56 pm
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66 Responses to “Biden Leads Dems Nationally By 7% and in SC By 21%”

  1. jason says:

    So Warren is back as flavor of the week?

    Zzzzzz…

  2. jason says:

    “I put that term in quotes, as I am still trying to figure out how you define that term. Your definition seems different from how Milton Friedman describes it.”

    I am fine with Milton Friedman. Are you?

    “The proponents of quotas say, “Free trade is fine in theory but it must be reciprocal. We cannot open our markets to foreign products if foreigners close their markets to us.” Japan, they argue, to use their favorite whipping boy, “keeps her vast internal market for the private domain of Japanese industry but then pushes her products into the U.S. market and complains when we try to prevent this unfair tactic.”The argument sounds reasonable. It is, in fact, utter nonsense. Exports are the cost of trade, imports the return from trade, not the other way around.”

    https://miltonfriedman.hoover.org/friedman_images/Collections/2016c21/NW_08_17_1970.pdf

    https://fee.org/articles/in-1970-milton-friedman-called-for-unilateral-free-trade-rather-than-retaliation-we-still-haven-t-learned-that-simple-lesson/

  3. jason says:

    These are not good numbers for Biden. His national numbers are slipping.

    And 55% of SC Dems are black, presumably Biden’s strongest demographic so Biden should actually do better than 35% there.

  4. Phil says:

    Yeah, if there is any state Biden should do well in it is SC with its black Democratic electorate.

    Shortly after SC is California. Different electorate all together. I could easily see it becoming Biden’s Waterloo.

  5. Tgca says:

    Cinco Bebe! Cinco!

  6. jason says:

    NYC could learn a lot from Milton Friedman, so could Trump.

    I am not optimistic either will, alas.

  7. Wobbles says:

    I am beginning to think the Dems will be so fragmented that they will have a brokered convention, which could be an opportunity for Jeb!

  8. Tina says:

    The executive order requires the entire gubment to count illegals.

  9. Tina says:

    Breaking Ice raids going down in the Sf ay Area.

    Kron

  10. jason says:

    So NYC, watch this and tell me where my views differ from Milton Friedman.

    Be honest.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urSe86zpLI4

  11. mnw says:

    Did Milton Friedman favor ignoring unfair trade practices even AFTER the WTO has made a final decision that these in fact occurred, & authorized tariffs as the appropriate remedy? YOU DO.

    Unilateral disarmament, here we come!

    Intellectual property? Who needs it! Take it all, friend. It’s yours. Nothing to fear from us if you do.

  12. jason says:

    Did Milton Friedman favor ignoring unfair trade practices even AFTER the WTO has made a final decision that these in fact occurred, & authorized tariffs as the appropriate remedy?”

    Read his article and listen to the tape and you will have your answer.

    And still waiting for NYC to explain how my views differ from Milton Friedman’s.

    But, hey, keep shilling for the AFL-CIO while they spend a few more hundred million to defeat conservatives.

  13. jason says:

    “unfair trade practices”

    Here is what Milton Friedman said about “unfair trade practices”.

    “Japan they argue, to use their favorite whipping boy, “keeps her vast internal market for the private domain of Japanese industry but then pushes her products into the U.S. market and complains when we try to prevent this unfair tactic.”The argument sounds reasonable. It is, in fact, utter nonsense. Exports are the cost of trade, imports the return from trade, not the other way around.”

    Now China is the favorite whipping boy of the AFL-CIO conservatives.

  14. Phil says:

    Mayor Pete announces Marshall Plan for blacks. Guess He had to top Kamala’s $25,000 per black family.

    Ok, Elizabeth Warren, what is your bid?

  15. jason says:

    She can top that by offering Native Americans their choice of 25 states.

  16. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The President at 49%/48%, approval/disapproval, in the most recent Economist/ You Gov Poll(Question 2).

    https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/l69si61xzl/tabs_Trump_Tweets_20190710.pdf

  17. Tgca says:

    Why you stoopid people all quoting Milton Friedman as if he is the know all on economics? The House has its own economics expert, Ocasii-Cortez will school you all with her degree in economics.

  18. Tgca says:

    OMG! I just saw this. Terrible!

    You all right Wes?

    http://thesmokinggun.com/buster/florida/things-got-slashy-305628

  19. Wes says:

    Every now and then, RRH posts something amusing and insightful. This appeared in the current roundup regarding Amy McGrath’s barrel roll on Kavanaugh:

    Rumors are that McConnell has been hysterically laughing for hours on end over this candidacy.

  20. jason says:

    You learn so much here at HHR.

    Last night we learned Milton Friedman was a “Code Pink Conservative” and in favor of “unilateral disarmament”.

    Who knew?

  21. jason says:

    This McGrath woman seems even more ditzy than Amoral Scumbag’s “formidable candidate” sure to take down McConnell. Remember her, the Democrat who wouldn’t state if she voted for Obama or not because her vote was “private”?

    Of course this won’t prevent Amoral Scumbag from predicting again that McConnell is going to “have a hard time” because he is so unpopular in KY.

    Maybe he can show up here the weekend before the election to tout some poll where McConnell is in trouble right before he wins by 15 or 20.

  22. jason says:

    Just in case they didn’t read the article I posted above, the AFL-CIO conservatives might want to read this passage that specifically addresses the “unilateral disarmament” nonsense.

    “China does impose numerous restrictions on trade—though in recent years she has been reducing them. Those trade restrictions hurt China and they hurt us—by denying them and us mutually profitable trade. In China no less than in the U.S., concentrated producers exert a greater influence on government than widely diffused consumers and are able to persuade the government to fleece the consumer for the benefit of the producers.

    However, we only increase the hurt to us—and also to them—by imposing additional restrictions in our turn. The wise course for us is precisely the opposite—to move unilaterally toward free trade. If they still choose to impose restrictions, that is too bad but at least we have not added insult to injury.

    This is clearly the right course for action on economic grounds. But it is also the only course of action that is in keeping with our political position in the world. We are a great nation, the leader of the free world. Yet we squander our political power to appease the steel, aluminum and washing machine industries! We should instead be setting a standard for the world by practicing the freedom of competition, of trade and of enterprise that we preach.

    While the protectionists’ favorite whipping boy today is China and not Japan and today’s politically favored domestic industries receiving trade protection are steel, aluminum, and washing machine producers and not textile and footwear producers, Milton Friedman’s economic logic and wisdom about trade are just as relevant, cogent, and convincing today as they were almost half a century ago in 1970.

    Unfortunately, nearly 50 years after Friedman’s op-ed in Newsweek, in addition to thousands of other articles, books, essays, and op-eds about trade written by him and others, America still suffers from a pervasive and serious national deficit of clear thinking and elementary understanding of trade, starting at the top of the current administration’s team of mercantilists/protectionists/scarcityists.”

    And btw, NYC still hasn’t explained on how “my definition of free trade” is different from Milton Friedman’s. The silence is deafening.

  23. jason says:

    “We should instead be setting a standard for the world by practicing the freedom of competition, of trade and of enterprise that we preach.”

    Dang, that sounds a lot like what I have been saying here for years myself…..

    Basically, that we should be the leaders in promoting free trade, not sitting around waiting for everyone else to adopt it first.

  24. jason says:

    Too bad Acosta resigned, I guess Trump withdrew his support because of the fallout.

  25. mnw says:

    I typed a long response & the moderation just ate it.

    I’m going to take a week long break from here, starting now. Talk to your troll friends!

  26. Bitterlaw says:

    mnw – You should copy your post before you hit submit. If it does not go though look for possible words that set it off

    Je nna

    St uff

  27. jason says:

    It’s ok, we know what it was going to say.

    Free trade – bad
    AFL-CIO tariff agenda – good

  28. jason says:

    Where is NYC?

    Yesterday he said my positions were different from Milton Friedman’s.

    I have quoted Milton Friedman himself and stated I am ok with his positions.

    Anxious to know where I differ from Milton Friedman, who I consider an icon of sound economic theory.

  29. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – You ignorant slut. You need to understand.

    Tariffs – Bad
    Trump’s tariffs – Brilliant

    Obama’s Executive Orders – Bad
    Trump’s Executive Orders – Perfect

  30. jason says:

    Ok, ok, I am learning… no need to pile on.

    Let’s see:

    Shaking hands with Schumer – RINO traitor
    Funding Schumer for decades – Understandable

    Obama raising debt limit – big spending liberal
    Trump raising debt limit – innocent bystander

    Obama shovel ready infrastructure projects – Pork
    Trump 2 trillion infrastructure projects – Honey

    How am I doing?

  31. jason says:

    Another howler by McGrath.

    Now she claims she will “work better with President Trump than McConnell”.

    Okayyyy……

  32. jason says:

    Since her term in the Senate would start in 2021, I am sure the moonbats are going to be thrilled that she thinks Trump will win the election.

  33. VictrC says:

    Ouch., This is almost painful to watch as Biden stutters and slurs his way through a speech.

    I still believe he will be the nominee, but am beginning to wonder if he will beat Trump. It’s still a year before he takes him on head to head. What will a year of non stop campaigning, grueling days and nights, endless plane travel do to him.

    http://www.theamericanmirror.com/video-shaky-joe-biden-stumbles-slurs-coughs-through-major-speech/

  34. jason says:

    Weaponized corruption….proliferation of nuclear security….

  35. jason says:

    This was the first video I watched of Biden.

    He is using the wrong word frequently, catching it, and correcting it. But sometimes he is not catching it.

    And is not making up for it in delivery. Basically a boring monotone.

    Vic is right that this is not going be better next year.

  36. DW says:

    Biden will not be the nominee…he had his one shot at it, 2016, but passed on it.

  37. Phil says:

    Does anyone believe Biden will get anything but less mentally sharp as the months drag on? He will be even less coherent 14 months from now when the fall GE campaign begins. This has got to be weighing some on Democratic primary voters already.

    Harris and Warren are licking their chops IMO.

  38. DW says:

    Update on RCP over the 24 communists and jason all trying to win the Democrat nomination. I now include in parenthesis the change from the last report.

    1 – Biden: 26.8 (-0.3)
    2 – Sanders: 15.2 (-0.1)
    3 – Warren: 15.2 (+1.5)
    4 – Harris: 15
    5 – Buttigieg: 5.3 (+0.3)
    6 – O’Rourke : 2.2 (-0.4)
    7 – Booker: 2.1 (-0.3)
    8 – Gabbard: 1.3 (-0.1)
    9 – Castro: 1.3
    10 – Yang: 1.3 (+0.2)
    11 – Klobuchar : 1.2 (+0.1)
    12 – Inslee: 0.7 (+0.3)
    13 – Hickenlooper: 0.7 (+0.3)
    14 – Bullock: 0.5
    15 – Bennet: 0.5 (+0.1)
    16 – Williamson: 0.5 (+0.2)
    17 – de Blasio : 0.3 (-0.1)
    18 – Delaney: 0.3 (+0.2)
    19 – Gillibrand: 0.2 (-0.1)
    20 – Ryan: 0.2 (+0.1)
    21 – jason: 0
    22 – Moulton: 0
    23 – Sestak: 0
    24 – Gravel: 0
    25 – Messam : 0
    26 – Swalwell: Dropped out
    27 – Ojeda: Dropped out

  39. DW says:

    Far be it from me to forecast who will win the Dem nomination. I just don’t see Biden making it to the finish line any more than I see Chuck standing up.

    Similarly, I just don’t see Sanders getting there either. The primary voters that want to go full socialist have the younger Warren or Harris to choose from. I suppose either of those two could make it to the nomination. There could be a push for Booker as sort of the Obama third term idea, but not sure.

    One thing that is clear to me, if all of the candidates continue to fail to gain any sort of consensus, I expect someone else to jump in as the ‘savior’ role later on in the pre-primary process. Don’t dismiss Hillary–she has to want it bad.

  40. John says:

    39
    That’s just about how the bettors (Vegas, UK and online) see it from what I’ve heard…more and more money (and I mean large sums) coming in for Trump’s re-election while almost nothing going against him.
    FYI-you might be onto something with the Hillary angle from what I’ve also heard…stay tuned.

  41. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Another Ninth Circuit victory for the Trump Administration today. This one involves the government’s ability to withhold funds from santuary cities. The 2-1 decision pitted 2 GOP-appointed Judges against an Obama-appointed Judge.The Donald has done agreat job in reconstituting the Ninth Circuit, but there is more to go.

    https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/452862-9th-circuit-rules-in-favor-of-trump-admin-in-sanctuary-city-case

  42. lisab says:

    Ok, Elizabeth Warren, what is your bid?

    ————————————

    700% increase in refugee immigration — which means they get welfare even before veterans

    that is, public housing goes to refugees before homeless veterans

  43. lisab says:

    biden is now tied

    for second

    on predictit

    harris is in the lead

    harris 25 cents
    biden & warren 21 cents
    sanders 12 cents

    and the worst part is … there are many rich dems who could buy enough on predict it to swing the site to biden …

    but they haven’t

    biden is done

    the money is just not there

  44. John says:

    43
    Not just a reality on how ‘the real bettors’ feel.
    Google betting sites on how the the bettors with real money feel…fyi…harris is now down to a point to 4.50-1 while Trump is still even or less….translation…as does DW think…Trump is at a very good situation at this point…despite polls.

  45. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    39. “Don’t dismiss Hillary–she has to want it bad.”

    I thought there was a chance of her seeking the nomination again too. But Bill Clinton appears to have had a major involvement in the Epstein scandal. Add Anthony Weiner to the mix, and I think Hillary becomes too toxic to be a candidate. She has long served as Bill Clinton’s enabler.

  46. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Democratic candidates seem to all be check-mating each other. Believe Trump now has the best chance ever of being re-elected. However, Trump has one horrible political enemy that could sink his candidacy — his name is Donald Trump.

  47. lisab says:

    i actually think one reason epstein came out is to keep clinton from even thinking of running

    and

    to keep both clintons away from the convention

  48. Bitterlaw says:

    First impressions of Cleveland:

    Small

    Clean

  49. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    48. Are you talking about the Cleveland in Ohio or Tennessee?

  50. Bitterlaw says:

    Ohio. The center city/business district/baseball park is very clean. This is my first time here. I am very impressed as I expected the “mistake on the lake” stereotype.

  51. jason says:

    Hey, Bitter, go to the West Side Market. I recommend a bratwurst sandwich at Frank’s Bratwurst or some of the empanadas at Orale Mexican Food (yes, I know, empanadas are Argentinian), GFYs.

    http://westsidemarket.org/vendors/

  52. ssq says:

    actually think one reason epstein came out is to keep clinton from even thinking of running

    and

    to keep both clintons away from the convention”

    Wow, what a patriotic guy.

    And I don’t even think he is gay.

  53. jason says:

    Wow, NYC is taking a vacation from here too just so he doesn’t have to answer my question on where I differ from Milton Friedman on trade.

    Maybe he is visiting Amoral Scumbag in Bogo Pogo.

    mnw said he was taking a vacation too, send pictures.

  54. jason says:

    Hillary won’t run.

    Unless she want to bring out the “vast right wing conspiracy” to explain Bill Clinton’s 26 trips with Epstein.

  55. jason says:

    Bitter probably has an entourage of Black Panther bodyguards from Philly as he tours “clean” Cleveland.

    Zzzzzz…..

  56. Bitterlaw says:

    It is clean whereveecate. I am sure there are bad areas.

  57. Wes says:

    What is whereveecate, Bitter?

  58. Bitterlaw says:

    Where I am at.

    I tripped and hurt my foot this morning. I am not going to take off my shoe to look until tonight. My wife is in HOF heaven right now and would kill me if I made her spend a day in the ER. I guess if I can walk without passing out from the pain I am ok.

  59. jason says:

    Bitter, the “hurt foot” strategy usually doesn’t work, try something more creative.

  60. Wes says:

    That’s just painful. Bitter commits a cardinal sin in English of using at at the end of a clause starting with where.

    I cringed.

  61. Wes says:

    Bitter, since you’re at the R&R HOF, ask why Judas Priest and Iron Maiden still aren’t inductees.

  62. Bitterlaw says:

    I asked. The Induction Committee said they don’t want their fans coming here. Sorry.

  63. jason says:

    “The Induction Committee said they don’t want their fans coming here. Sorry.”

    Not bad.

    Let’s see if Wes can come up with something.

  64. Bitterlaw says:

    Sorry about the at at the end. I’m grinding it out today.

    Creative? Coming out of the hotel garage yesterday….We could not get the toll bar to ride with our room key. I got out and figured out how to do it. When the bar went up I told my wife to drive and I would meet her on the sidewalk. I did not walk far enough to the side so the bar hit me on the head on the way down. No concussion but considerable embarrassment.

  65. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    There was excellent article in the American Interest regarding fallacy that free trade exist between the U.S. and China:

    “In today’s world of protected markets, extorted intellectual property, and government subsidies, to continue to argue that for the past four decades we have been engaged in anything resembling the ideal of free trade is to deny reality. It is time to abandon globalist mantras that a national manufacturing base no longer matters, or that the traditional export-import calculus no longer applies.It is time to abandon globalist mantras that a national manufacturing base no longer matters, or that the traditional export-import calculus no longer applies.Otherwise America’s decline as a global power will proceed apace, and the United States will run the increasing risk of being unable to maintain those elements of our supply chain that are vital to the national security. It is imperative for the United States to onshore the critical segments of our supply chain, and to implement stringent export controls and the rudiments of national economic policy, especially in areas impacting our military strength. In short, our core strategic priority should be to disentangle our economy from China’s, to stop educating China’s future weapons designers in our premier science and engineering colleges and universities, and to restore at least a semblance of a level playing field when it comes to international trade and investment.”

  66. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    More signs of the Democratic civil war, the Justice Democrats and Black Caucus are going at each other.

    “Congressional Black Caucus members are furious at Justice Democrats, accusing the outside progressive group aligned with firebrand Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) of trying to oust lawmakers of color, specifically African American lawmakers.
    Justice Democrats is backing primary challengers to eight-term Rep. Henry Cuellar (D-Texas), a Hispanic Caucus member, and 10-term Rep. Wm. Lacy Clay (D-Mo.), a member of the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC). The insurgent group also made noise this year about challenging Democratic Caucus Chairman Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.), a CBC member seen as the heir apparent to Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).
    And CBC leaders are fretting that Justice Democrats may target other black lawmakers in the coming weeks and months, including Reps. Yvette Clarke (D-N.Y.), Joyce Beatty(D-Ohio), Emanuel Cleaver (D-Mo.) and Anthony Brown (D-Md.). Brown said the group has been making calls in his district, actively trying to recruit a challenger to run against him — something that Justice Democrats denies.”

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