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Biden Leads Trump By 9% Nationally

NBC News and The Wall Street Journal have released the General Election numbers from their latest poll and it shows Joe Biden up on Donald Trump by 9%.

PRESIDENT – NATIONAL (NBC/WSJ)
Joe Biden (D) 51%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 42%

Bernie Sanders (D) 50%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 43%

Elizabeth Warren (D) 48%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 43%

Kamala Harris (D) 45%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 44%

This poll was done July 7-9 among 800 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 10:53 am
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132 Responses to “Biden Leads Trump By 9% Nationally”

  1. NYCmike says:

    fRIST!

  2. Phil says:

    Sanders leads Trump by 7 pts?

    Wanna bet?

    if there was ever a poll that needed to be trashed this is it.

    …but hey, it gives Chuck Todd something to orgasm over on MTP which is the purpose.

  3. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    good link from Friedman. Need to watch it again.

    Always good to make sure what one thinks.

    I wonder if Friedman would have taken the same position if he was running for office.

    Again, to repeat, theoretically, and in principle, I am for free trade.

    If I was to lose an election because of that, should I stick to my principles?

    Should I stick to my principles when it comes to farm subsidies? What does Friedman say about those? Does he care about how they vote in Iowa, Nebraska, etc?

  4. NYCmike says:

    The old joke:

    A lawyer walks into a bar. The bartender says “Take this drink free and leave, it will be cheaper for me.”

    The new joke:

    A bar crashes down on a lawyers head. It doesn’t say sorry.*

    *Bitterlaw, I hope your head feels better!

  5. NYCmike says:

    And YES, technically on vacation, just checked in quick, as I am taking care of some loose ends at work,

    Cheers!

  6. jason says:

    NYC is on vacation trying to figure out how my position on trade differs from Milton Friedman’s…
    still waiting.

  7. jason says:

    4% Approval Rating in the Republican Party, an all time high. Ronald Reagan was 87%.”

    Amoral Scumbag is in Bogo Pogo trying to figure who the “alternative to Trump” might be.

  8. jason says:

    Again, to repeat, theoretically, and in principle, I am for free trade.”

    I understand.

    But if Trump is for tariffs, you are for tariffs.

    If Trump is against free trade, you are against free trade.

    So in principle, you have no principles.

  9. Phil says:

    If I thought temporary tariffs would cause the Chinese to cave and give us a more even trade playing field I could stomach them – for a short while. However, that isn’t going to happen. Chinese have no incentive to cave with the possibility that a Biden or any of the America last Democrats might be in power in another year and a half.

  10. VictrC says:

    Phil…youre correct, theyhave no incentive to move so Trump should find something small to negotiate on, claim a pyrrich victory and move on from them.

    It would help the economy and push his re-election bid to end the tariffs.

  11. John says:

    Trump leads Biden among white voters by just 7%, 50-43?
    Trump won whites by 21% in 2016, Romney won the white voter by 20% in 2012.

  12. Phil says:

    Not worried about Biden. I don’t think he makes it to the Democratic convention. Right now when it comes to the nomination it looks to me that Harris and Warren are nicely positioned. I’d rather be in their shoes than his.

  13. Phil says:

    As far as Sanders, he has about the same chance at the nomination that I have.

  14. Robbie says:

    I’m looking forward to the patriotic MAGA defenses by the HHR dunce cap brigade of Trump telling people to “go back…to the places from which they came”.

    I’m sure NYCmoron can muster up a “but muh Antifa” or Jason fraud can type “zzzzzz” as a way to defend this racist and bigoted tweet from Trump.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    ….and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how….

  15. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    July 14, 2019 at 11:42 am
    If I thought temporary tariffs would cause the Chinese to cave and give us a more even trade playing field I could stomach them – for a short while. However, that isn’t going to happen. Chinese have no incentive to cave with the possibility that a Biden or any of the America last Democrats might be in power in another year and a half.

    – Tariffs are patriotic so long as they’re applied by Trump. Otherwise, they go against long held conservative principles. Of course, the conservative movement long ago abandoned principles.

  16. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I was one of those who challenged the assumption that the Democrats would inevitably nominate Biden, because he could beat Trump.

    However, I am not writing Biden off; there is a lot of concern among Democrats that the party’s other candidates are swinging too far to the left, and Trump will be re-elected as a result. The leftist tone of the first Democratic debate may boost the chances of Biden getting the nomination.

  17. John says:

    14
    What’s left in Trump’s tweet is the last part… “then come back and show us how it is done”.

  18. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Elizabeth Warren believes Trump’s tariffs are not strong enough.

    https://reason.com/2018/11/01/elizabeth-warren-donald-trump-tariffs/

    Sanders has the same view. Biden is amorphous in his views. Believe the Democrats are likely to take a position favorable to tariffs at their convention. Since Trump has a 94% approval rating among Republicans, am not seeing him facing a strong primary challenge.

    Given the reality of the situation, do not see a benefit for the Chinese waiting until after the 2020 election to negotiate a tariff agreement.

  19. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    From an prior post:

    There was excellent article in the American Interest regarding fallacy that free trade exist between the U.S. and China:

    “In today’s world of protected markets, extorted intellectual property, and government subsidies, to continue to argue that for the past four decades we have been engaged in anything resembling the ideal of free trade is to deny reality. It is time to abandon globalist mantras that a national manufacturing base no longer matters, or that the traditional export-import calculus no longer applies.It is time to abandon globalist mantras that a national manufacturing base no longer matters, or that the traditional export-import calculus no longer applies.Otherwise America’s decline as a global power will proceed apace, and the United States will run the increasing risk of being unable to maintain those elements of our supply chain that are vital to the national security. It is imperative for the United States to onshore the critical segments of our supply chain, and to implement stringent export controls and the rudiments of national economic policy, especially in areas impacting our military strength. In short, our core strategic priority should be to disentangle our economy from China’s, to stop educating China’s future weapons designers in our premier science and engineering colleges and universities, and to restore at least a semblance of a level playing field when it comes to international trade and investment.”

  20. Phil says:

    Yep, we’re so lucky to have Omar in America. Thank God she’s here to show us the way.

    LOL

  21. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The leftist Democrats want open borders, through which millions can come into the U.S., who will all be entitled to free medical care and other social services. It will require massive taxation and bankrupt the middle class. Tech and and progressive corporations will have their funds sheltered overseas, and will gain the advantage of having more low cost labor. This is how the game is already played in California.

  22. VictrC says:

    Respectfully Robbie…I have little problem with what Trump said, especially given the last sentence.

    I’ve been to the country that America graciously allowed her to escape from and its a h3%& hole. She has some nerve coming here and attacking Americans the way she does. She’s an anti-Semite and a racist, and spits in the face of my fellow veterans who served there trying to save her and her compatriots from warlords and worse.

    She comes here and denigrates our country, our people, the open arms that we receive people trying to escape war and expects us to stand for it. She should go back to her country, fix it, and then come back and show us how its done. Until then she should tone down the hateful rhetoric she has for this great land that I, and many others, have fought for.

    I don’t often defend Trump, but on this one I will. He should have mentioned her only, instead of referring to the group, but we all know what he meant.

    He often isn’t defensible, but this time he is. I know you won’t appreciate where I am coming from, but I think you are are wrong. Respectfully.

  23. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    22. Well said.

  24. Phil says:

    Omar’s latest today – immigrants are treated worse than dogs.

    Good God.

    Yeah, well said 22.

  25. Victrc says:

    24. Well.. they are treated better than American soldiers in her country were, especially when dragged behind cars.

    She’s a word that I won’t use since I am a gentleman.

  26. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Do not assume that all immigrants oppose Trump’s immigration policies. We have a large population of Iraqi Chaldeans and Assyrians in San Diego. Here is a quote from the San Diego UT newspaper:

    “In the 1970s, Emily Salem and her eight siblings came to America with their parents to start anew. They all flourished, but the memories of being from a country that seemed to be perpetually in turmoil got under their skin and stayed there.
    Trump’s travel ban and his promise of more rigorous vetting of immigrants hoping to enter the U.S. resonated with Salem and her family. Still, she has some doubts about the particulars.
    “I voted for Trump, but at the same time, he’s banning all these countries and Iraq was one of them,” Salem said. “Well, Iraq has never done anything. None of the Iraqis. You know, they love life. Even the Muslims, Christians, Yazidis, all of them. They’re not radicals.”
    St. Peter Chaldean Catholic Church is in El Cajon, where some 60,000 Chaldeans live. Bishop Bawai Soro does not see much agitation in his congregation over Trump’s ban, and he doesn’t feel it himself.
    His people have been persecuted for centuries as their population in Iraq and Syria has been painfully losing ground, losing churches and losing people. Since the invasion of Iraq in 2003, the population of Christians living there has fallen from 1.4 million to 275,000 in 2016.
    * * *
    “Before the ban, we were stuck for years and years waiting to come here. Being delayed is not a new thing. I think no one in the Chaldean community minds being vetted. I don’t think one Chaldean in the world is a terrorist, so let them vet as much as they want,” said Soro, who came to the United States in 1973.
    “We escape for freedom, and freedom must contain security. I think Chaldeans don’t mind waiting a few months more for that.”

  27. Tom says:

    Omar, AOC, Fauxcahontis, Bernie, Kamala, Sleepy Joe, please keep talking and 2020 will be a conservative romp.

  28. Bitterlaw says:

    Driving home from Cleveland we made 2 side trips. First was a visit to Canton and the NFL HOF. Very cool. The second stop was very moving. We stopped at the Flight 93 Memorial. In the visitor’s Center, you can listen to phone calls from passengers to their families. I could only listen to a message from a pregnant woman to her husband for a few seconds before I walked away with tears flowing. The site of the crash is marked with a large stone visible fro the memorial. Only family members are allowed at the crash site. The surrounding countryside is beautiful.

  29. Victrc says:

    Bitter

    The sad thing is you still have people like Justin Amash and his band of Ron Paul followers who don’t believe 9/11 was “real.”

    They think it was some inside job with actors. They are right there with people like “the AOC group.”

  30. Bitterlaw says:

    Vic – It is a beautiful and peaceful memorial. Very few people will ever visit it since it is remote. The deniers are truly cold, pathetic people.

  31. Wes says:

    Very touching about the Flight 93 memorial, Bitter.

    9/11 was a truly horrific event. One of the few good things I can say about GWB is that he did not let that appalling act go unanswered. Attacking Al Qaeda on its own soil after the senseless murders of thousands was the highlight of his presidency. It’s a shame 9/11 occurred, but at GWB was did a great thing in uniting the country to fight back hard against those human monsters.

  32. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – People can argue legitimately about the Patriot Act, Homeland Security, NSA, etc. However, even Obama was not suicidal and he kept many of the tools and tactics in place. It is not a coincidence that the terrorists moved their focus to Europe.

  33. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    31. I don’t know of anyone who does not think GWB handled the 9-11 attack, and the subsequent war on the Taliban in Afghanistan, exceptionally well.

    It was the invasion of Iraq that created controversy. As Napoleon once said: “It was worse than a defeat, it was a blunder.”

  34. Victrc says:

    Wes, Bitter and SD….couldn’t agree more. He did a great job handling the tragedy and going after the Taliban.

    Without iraq and Medicare part D we would have viewed his presidency differently.

  35. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Claiming to be Cherokee, contractors with white ancestry got $300 million.”

    https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-na-cherokee-minority-contracts-20190626-story.html?hootPostID=6696bc80cea1396f626b187ebf9d483e

    Wonder if he is related to a certain Massachusetts senator?

  36. lisab says:

    9/11 was a truly horrific event. One of the few good things I can say about GWB is that he did not let that appalling act go unanswered. Attacking Al Qaeda on its own soil after the senseless murders of thousands was the highlight of his presidency. It’s a shame 9/11 occurred, but at GWB was did a great thing in uniting the country to fight back hard against those human monsters.
    ——————————————-

    how times have changed

    i just saw a NCIS new orleans episode where

    a young charismatic black female mayoral candidate was running against a corrupt old fat white mayor

    who had run new orleans for decades and made a government full of corruption …

    the young black female candidate was getting too close in the polls

    sooooooooooooooo … the old fat white guy

    hired white christian mercenaries

    to trick/threaten muslim refugees

    into

    blowing up the black female mayoral candidate

    in the name of isis

    of course it really was not isis

    it was the old fat white mayor and his christian mercenaries

    who … had the usa flag and a christian cross tatooed on their arms

  37. Tina says:

    More Mullah Omar, more all out commie, and more tilapia.

  38. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “China second quarter GDP growth slows to 6.2% year-on-year, 27-year low

    BEIJING (Reuters) – China’s economic growth slowed to 6.2% in the second quarter from a year earlier, the weakest in at least 27 years, as demand at home and abroad faltered as the United States ratcheted up trade pressure.”

    Add to that the demonstrations and rioting taking place in Hong Kong (could it spread?), and am not sure the Chinese want to wait until after the 2020 election to resolve the trade issue. It is in both the U.S. and Chinese interest to resolve the trade dispute now.

  39. Tina says:

    Mute 43 was a disaster.

    Botched Iraq.

    Picked Souter 2.0.

    Blew up the Middle East.

    Blew up our economy,

    In many ways, worse than Carter.

  40. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    37. “and more tilapia.”

    Sorry Tina, you cannot raise tilapia. California bans most species of tilapia, and only permits the allowed tilapia species to be raised in Southern California. Sad because they are great fish to raise and eat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDKMQSvPP6E

  41. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m heading out for cataract removal surgery. If I die from a rare complication, GFY. If I live but go blind in one eye, GFY twice.

  42. jason says:

    Bitter, please make sure I am in your will for your share of the A-hole Club.

  43. jason says:

    Elizabeth Warren believes Trump’s tariffs are not strong enough.”

    Of course not, she is bought and paid for by the unions.

    What is Trump’s excuse?

  44. DW says:

    Hillary Clinton talks like candidate at immigration rally…

    …see just last week I suggested Hillary might be waiting to see the current crop of Dem candidates implode on themselves, so she can jump in late as the savior.

  45. Messy says:

    44. She won’t run.

    27. Trump is making them look like victims. damn him!!!!!!

  46. Tina says:

    Drats will be triggered:

    The Associated Press
    @AP
    · 13m
    BREAKING: Trump administration moves to end asylum protections for most Central American migrants in escalation of battle to tamp down number of people crossing U.S.-Mexico border.
    (link: http://apne.ws/vKPbj6Y) apne.ws/vKPbj6Y

  47. Bitterlaw says:

    I lived. Vision in left eye seems much improved but will take time to know if it worked and infection. GFY.

  48. jason says:

    I am glad Bitter is ok. I didn’t want to inherit MD’s bronze bust anyway.

  49. jason says:

    MSM very offended at Trump’s tweet.

    But this is ok.

    “Freshman Rep. Ilhan Omar (D., Minn.) on Saturday questioned the patriotism of American-born citizens, claiming she “probably love[s] this country more than anyone who is naturally born” in the United States.”

    Of course, I am not offended since I am not “American born”.

  50. jason says:

    Hillary won’t run.

  51. jason says:

    If she did, she would terminate Biden within a minut of the announcement, however.

  52. dblaikie says:

    As usual, I shook my head when Trump put out his latest tweets. My immediate thought was that as usual he counter punches without thought to the negative consequences. But then this little thought occurred to me. I didn’t disagree with what he says. For example if you really think we are running Concentration Camps at the border, why are you staying? If we are running Concentration Camps isn’t time to overthrow the Government.

    Second even though I thought Trump was stupid to tweet that stuff, the truth is that he is smarter than we all think.

    And now today listening to Rush, he made the statement that contrary to the media interpretation that this tweet was a huge mistake because it reunited the Dems was exactly Trumps purpose. To make them the united party of the Green New Deal and hatred of Israel. And now low and behold Nancy Pelosi is coming out with a resolution defending her problem fascists. Maybe I am the stupid person.

  53. janz says:

    db, I’m “shaking my head too,” especially after hearing Trump ramp up his comments directed at the 4 controversial women. While his observations about these congress women may be shared by a lot of people, they still sound way too abrasive for the public forum. This is particularly true when, by saying nothing, the MSM and others were negatively speaking about them. Now, Trump has gotten his face and tweets in it (once again) and is stepping all over the backlash that was naturally evolving.

    I think it was a wrong tactic, and will do more to hurt than help him.

  54. Victrc says:

    I’m torn. I wish he had not said the comments, but reflecting on what DB said, Pelosi was pulling away from these four anti-American group, now they have t back them which will only embolden them even more.

    It might be a clever move actually. Time will tell

  55. Phil says:

    Trump’s comments won’t cut either way.

    Everyone is over analyzing this.

    Just because the MSM says it’s a big story doesn’t mean it’s a big deal to the average Joe. It isn’t.

  56. dblaikie says:

    One thing I have discovered is that we can depend on the media and the their Congressional partners to over react — because of their hatred they can’t help themselves. So in blind rage they rail at Trump over his over the top tweet and in their anger they praise and tie themselves to the very people they most need to distance themselves from — Omar and AOC.

  57. dblaikie says:

    Truthfully, I can’t believe what the Democrats have done to themselves in this election cycle. To think that their best hope is an ambitious, senile old man who is a has been if there ever was one. The only reason why old Uncle Joe is their best hope is that he might be able to come out of the primary moderate enough to give an out for Never Trumpers. Be even that is fading as Uncle Joe seems to be willing to do anything to get the nomination — even become a socialist. I will say it hear and now if Uncle Joe is not the nominee (can’t believe I am saying this) they have no chance. The truth is Uncle Joe really has no change either but at least he is a few points above zero.

    I really don’t care about polls. All over the world the polling industry is imploding with bogus national polls from the United Kingdom to Australia to Israel.

    I just wonder one thing, in their mindless rage, when will the media cross the line and make Trump a victim to folks who have doubts about his demeanor and tweets? That my fellow posters is a line that will be crossed in the next year and half.

  58. Bitterlaw says:

    It is amazing that Trump can hurt himself over stupid comments directed at irrelevant people. He basically said to naturalized citizens to shut up or leave. I think what she said was generally stupid (more on that below) but she has as much right to criticize the government as a native born citizen.

    As for her claim that she loves America more than somebody who was born here, that could be true (just not in her case). I have no doubt that Jason loves America more than Obama, Sanders, Harris, millions of Millennials, etc…

  59. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    56. “So in blind rage they rail at Trump over his over the top tweet and in their anger they praise and tie themselves to the very people they most need to distance themselves from — Omar and AOC.”

    I agree. Trump has caused the Democrats to rise to the defense of several people with very extremist views. This is a typical Trump strategy, say something bombastic — which draws attention to the extremists, and the Democratic leadership trying to defend them. It is amazing how Trump manipulates the press. If he was tame in his tweets this would not happen.

  60. jason says:

    I think Trump’s point that if you hate America as much as these people do you should find somewhere else to go is well taken. I don’t see it as racist. Is saying good riddance to people who say they are going to live in Canada if Trump is elected racist? I think he would have said the same thing if these people were white with the same rhetoric and views.

    But if you hand your opponents a loaded gun they will shoot you with it, and the MSM is happy to define his comments as racist although Omar has made plenty of really racist comments in the past and nobody in the MSM cared.

    Trump is supposed to be very good at gauging the mood of the electorate and all that. In this case, he would have been better off calling Omar and AOC America hating commies and left it at that.

  61. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    60. Here is an example of the extremism:

    WASHINGTON — An anti-Israel extremist who heads a “right of return” advocacy group — and has equated Zionism to Nazism and called Israel a “terrorist entity” — attended a Detroit swearing-in reception and dinner party for freshman Rep. Rashida Tlaib, where he posed with her for a photograph that he tweeted on Saturday.

  62. jason says:

    But let’s make clear what Trump actually said rather than what the MSM says he said.

    “He then tells them to go back and fix the problems those countries have, then come back and show the U.S. how to solve these problems.”

    So he didn’t say they should go into exile and not come back, he said why don’t you fix the problems in these countries, if you actually are problem solvers, and then come back with the solutions.

    Nothing racist about that.

    But if you trust the MSM to correctly interpret you, good luck with that.

  63. jason says:

    Lindsey Graham cleans it up for Trump, with CNN’s interpretation.

    “Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham, one of President Donald Trump’s strongest allies on Capitol Hill, declined on Monday to condemn the President over his racist tweets against several minority members of Congress, instead calling them a “bunch of communists.”
    Graham’s comments, which were later tweeted out by Trump, are the latest example of congressional Republican alignment with Trump in the face of fierce controversy.
    “Well, we all know that (New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) and this crowd are a bunch of communists, they hate Israel, they hate our own country,” Graham said during an appearance on “Fox and Friends.” “They’re calling the guards along our border, the border patrol agents, ‘concentration camp guards.’ They accuse people who support Israel of doing it for the Benjamins. They’re anti-Semitic. They’re anti-America.”

  64. DW says:

    Lindsey Granite strikes again.

  65. DW says:

    There are 435 members of the US House. AOC acts like she is the only one because she is an arrogant, ignorant clown. She should be told that she represents but one tiny district full of communists, and she and her district do not represent the values of the rest of the country. So when she has had her two minutes to speak on behalf of her constituents, she should sit down and shut up, and let the other 434 speak.

    But I am glad she continues to shove others out of the way to grab the spotlight. She is too stupid to know the damage she is doing to her own party.

  66. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    As we learned in early 20th century Germany, if you don’t call out bigoted anti-anti-Semitism early, the results can be disastrous.

    @RepJuanVargas
    “It is disturbing that Rep. Omar continues to perpetuate hurtful anti-Semitic stereotypes that misrepresent our Jewish community. Additionally, questioning support for the U.S.-Israel relationship is unacceptable.”

  67. jason says:

    I notice Amoral Scumbag, who has the moral compass of a floating turd, made a drive by because he thinks the tweets are good for the socialists.

    Just like the MSM, he calls it “bigoted and racist”.

    I don’t know why he bothered to post, he could have said “I agree with MSNBC”.

    But we know that .

  68. DW says:

    67 – exactly. Omar is the racist.

  69. Paul says:

    Graham is the pot calling the kettle black.

  70. Paul says:

    Trump should be shot for treason.

  71. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump appears to have inflamed the already raging Democratic civil war. The far left is going to demand House Democrats fully support the far left loons.

    @KarenAttiah Karen Attiah Retweeted Donald J. Trump
    “Make no mistake: Nancy Pelosi’s dogwhistling snipes at @AOC, Ilhan Omar, @RashidaTlaib and @RepPressley helped pave the way for this vicious, racist attack from the president.”

  72. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Ayanna Pressley – talk about identity politics.

    “If you’re not prepared to come to that table and represent that voice, don’t come, because we don’t need any more brown faces that don’t want to be a brown voice. We don’t need black faces that don’t want to be a black voice. We don’t need Muslims that don’t want to be a Muslim voice. We don’t need queers that don’t want to be a queer voice. If you’re worried about being marginalized and stereotyped, please don’t even show up because we need you to represent that voice.”

  73. jason says:

    Graham is the pot calling the kettle black.”

    Paul thinks Graham is an America hating communist?

    Who knew?

  74. jason says:

    It’s funny the Dems say Omar cannot be called a racist because Judaism is not a race.

    However, if you say anything negative about Muslims, THEN you are a racist.

    I hope it is clear now.

  75. Marv says:

    President Trump’s latest tweet barrage is battlefield preparation.

  76. jason says:

    For those who thought it was high crimes and misdemeanors, think again.

    “Bigotry in policy”

    Al Green:

    “I will again, this month, bring impeachment to a vote on the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives for bigotry in policy, harmful to our society,” he tweeted.

  77. jason says:

    I think Redstate said it best:

    “Trump runs naked into Democrat Civil War”

  78. Paul says:

    He’s gonna get killed running through there.

  79. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It is a strange strategy by Trump, but what he is in effect doing is making OAC and her associates the spokepersons for the Democratic Party.

  80. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    A sleeper candidate has emerged in the Democratic race, and its Tinkerbell.

    St Anselm Poll: New Hampshire
    Biden 21%,
    Harris 18%,
    Warren 17%,
    Buttigieg 12%,
    Sanders 10%,
    Yang 5%,
    Klobuchar 3%,
    Williamson 2%,
    Booker 1%,
    Gabbard 1%,
    Gillibrand 0.7%,
    Inslee 0.3%,
    O’Rourke 0%

    @SandyFi71936729
    @marwilliamson Marianne Williamson polled eighth-
    NH DEM (St Anselm) Poll
    MW Is A Rising Political Force.
    People throughout the
    United States are listening carefully to Marianne’s Ideas For A Better America-
    And they like what she is saying.
    Stay Tuned-
    She has only just begun.

  81. Phil says:

    Yes, Americans like what she is saying. Two percent of the loon party in one state is all in on her. A real American groundswell.

  82. Tgca says:

    Trump is being obnoxious and in your face but his tweet was not racist. Telling someone to go back to countries they originated from whether by immigration or ancestry and clean up the mess their 1st before criticizing the US is not racist. It is also not racist to tell someone if they don’t like it here, to leave. Trump welcomes many immigrants to the country that support his policies so how can you be racist if you support other minorities you agree with?

    It is no more racist and not even close to comments some of these folks made of Israel and the US and white Americans.

    Let the MSM run with this distraction. Most folks see through the BS. …and I believe Trump is also pigeon holeing them by forcing the Dems to support these radical CongressCritters.

    As for Joni Ernest piling on, my gut feeling is she will back track in a few days. Someone should break down the comments for her and ask her exactly what part is racist.

    According to a news report I saw today, anyone that supports Trump and his policies are racist! There is no wiggle room there. So I guess that makes Joni racist for supporting his policies and candidacy. So I’m awaiting her to admit she is a racist now and ask forgiveness.

  83. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    New Hill/Harris poll that came out today.

    Biden 29% (-4%)
    Sanders 16% (+1%)
    Harris 11% (n/c)
    Warren 9% (n/c)
    O’Rourke 3% (-1%)
    Buttigieg 1% (-5%)
    Unsure 17%

  84. Cash Cow TM says:

    Bitter,

    1. Happy to see you and your missus get away for a vaca.

    2. Glad your cataract surgery went well.

    3. Moving still sucks.
    Walt has me on the laptop trying to get the printer from being off line to make it be online. He does not know how to do that crap…(neither do I, as I am all hooves).

  85. Phil says:

    Question for San Diego. I know it’s early but your take on the California Primary and Kamala’s strength in your state. Important primary because it is early and a ton of delegates. Also, how are delegates allotted? Is it by congressional district and how are they proportioned?

  86. Tina says:

    Granite has helped a lot with his tweet.

    The commies calling Leos (border guards enablers of a concentration camp) vile and disgusting.

  87. Tina says:

    Quittens, David French Fry, the socialisft son?

    Sean Davis

    Imagine being a “conservative” who spent all day sanctimoniously defending Ilhan Omar’s virtue and courage and contributions to American democracy, only to have her hold a press conference where she refused to denounce Al Qaeda and Islamic terrorism.

  88. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    85. Hi Phil. There are 495 California delegates.

    272 delegates are picked based on who carried each of the 53 congressional districts; they are proportionally awarded based on how each candidate did. To get delegates a candidate has to get more than 15% of the vote.

    144 delegates are picked based on the total state-wide vote; its proportional and only candidates who get more than 15% of the vote get delegates.

    There are also 90 “at large” delegates and 54 party leaders and elected officials.

    Independents can vote in the Democratic Party; they will be informed by mail from the Secretary of State how to do so, and can request a ballot by mail. It will be a major voting group in the Democratic primary.

    I cannot give you even a guess who will carry the state, or how well Harris will do. It may be very close.

    Harris has most the state’s elected leaders behind her, but is not that well-know and is sort of a non-entity in many ways. Would not say she is ahead. She won her senate election almost by default without a lot of campaigning.

    There are a lot of Sanders supporters here, and he pulled 47% of the vote four years ago. But also know a lot of Democrats who are now supporting Warren. She will be a strong candidate.

    I don’t know what would be considered Biden’s base of support in California. Most the Democratic leadership is supporting Harris. That African-American population is only about 5% in California, so maybe about 10% of the Democratic primary vote. A lot of it will go to Harris, and other candidates will get some of it as well. Am not seeing how Biden could win the primary.

    Instead believe it will be very close between the four major candidates. If I was to guess, believe Warren may come in 1st.

  89. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @MittRomney
    The fault for our 2012 loss is mine alone; @SpeakerRyan was a tireless campaigner, fundraiser, and conservative champion. As the sole person who could unite the House, he acquiesced to be Speaker as a service to the country.

    Hillary needs to teach him how to blame everyone else for a bad campaign.

  90. Bitterlaw says:

    Imagine being a conservative who never ran for any office constantly trashing somebody who did run.

  91. Tina says:

    This article summarizes well what Trump “did” to Piglosi and the commies. It makes no mention of the disastrous presser by the commies:

    https://spectator.org/trump-troll-level-grand-master/#.XS26XlY_vhs.twitter

  92. jason says:

    I am glad someone finally had the guts to call it like it is.

    The “squad” is composed of America-hating communists.

    Nothing more, nothing less.

  93. Tina says:

    Time to declare Antifa as a domestic terrorist group. I know Quittens praised Antifa.

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/15/willem-van-spronsen-ice-manifesto-ocasio-cortez/

  94. Phil says:

    SD, nice comprehensive analysis and information on the California primary. Many thanks.

  95. Phil says:

    I see fat ass George Conway is at it again in the Washington Post. LOL. That guy needs therapy.

  96. jason says:

    The Drudge headlines seem unfavorable to Trump, not sure why.

  97. jason says:

    Paul says:
    July 15, 2019 at 4:18 pm

    Trump should be shot for treason.”

    Fidel Castro could not have said it better.

  98. Waingro says:

    Kamikazi Mission:

    Caitlin Byrd
    ?
    Verified account

    @MaryCaitlinByrd
    26m26 minutes ago
    More
    EXCLUSIVE AND BREAKING: Mark Sanford, SC Republican and former congressman, says he is considering a presidential run against Donald Trump http://bit.ly/2lwDnrj #scpol #politics #2020 #scnews

  99. Phil says:

    Oh no. Trump is doomed.

    Maybe Sanford can get Blasio as his running mate to add to Sanford’s massive following. Together they would be unbeatable.

  100. Wes says:

    I don’t know about unbeatable, Phil, but they’d definitely be unbearable.

  101. VictrC says:

    Ahhhh.. So Mark “Don’t Cry for me Argentina” Sanford really thinks he can make a run for President. I think Corey has a better chance of getting nominated.

    WTH are people thinking other than they are sad that their 15 mins are long gone.

  102. Wes says:

    As both Governor and Congressman, Sanford was a legitimate budget hawk. Of course in the Era of Trump, the GOP is basically the lite version of the Dems fiscally.

    Even so, Sanford is just engaging in a vanity run to boost his profile ahead of a gig as a talking head. Sad because at one point Sanford would have made a legitimate contender for President. Not now.

  103. Waingro says:

    Jake Tapper
    ?
    Verified account

    @jaketapper
    8m8 minutes ago
    More
    breaking —

    New CNN/UNH poll

    likely NH Dem primary voters
    July 8-15

    Biden 24%
    Sanders/Warren each at 19%
    Buttigieg 10%
    Harris 9%
    Booker 2%
    O’Rourke 2%

    Margin of error: +/-5.0% pts

  104. VictrC says:

    Wes… you are 100% correct about Sanford. Back in ‘09/‘10 he was actually someone I was high on. I thought he was on a good path forward, but two things. 1. he was not a great public speaker. I was at a number of events with him and he didn’t have a ton of charisma. Smart, etc. 2. he went off the deep end with the whole affair situation.

  105. Bitterlaw says:

    I will trash every poll that does not give Jason credit for his 0%

  106. lisab says:

    i would love to talk to María Belén Chapur for an hour

  107. jason says:

    I will trash every poll that does not give Jason credit for his 0%”

    Bitter is a real A-hole. Very touching.

  108. jason says:

    I used to like Sanford, but I do think he might be a few fries short of a happy mea.

  109. jason says:

    Heh, the NeverTrumpers are not going to like Susan Collins’ statement.

    “I disagree strongly with many of the views and comments of some of the far-left members of the House Democratic Caucus — especially when it comes to their views on socialism, their anti-Semitic rhetoric, and their negative comments about law enforcement — but the President’s tweet that some Members of Congress should go back to the ‘places from which they came’ was way over the line, and he should take it down,”

    After lambasting the socialists and anti-semites, she calls Trump’s tweets over the line. Nothing about it being “racist”.

    Okayyy… zzzzzzz…

  110. Wes says:

    Collins seems to be taking the reasonable position here.

  111. Waingro says:

    I can’t remember the last time I was pleasantly surprised with a Democrat politician. At this point, she seems to govern as “conservative” as McCain ever did.

    Kyrsten Sinema
    ?
    Verified account

    @SenatorSinema
    Following Following @SenatorSinema
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    We’re cracking down on human trafficking at the border. https://www.sinema.senate.gov/sinema-discusses-need-combat-human-traffickers-southern-border

    1:57 PM – 16 Jul 2019

  112. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Just when you think that the Democrats have hit rock bottom in absurdity–this is WOW!!!

    https://www.axios.com/chuck-schumer-announces-support-for-reparations-bill-e02368a4-76b0-4ee2-8a2f-1f1cee53c1c6.html

  113. DW says:

    113-McConnell should allow the vote through for full senate vote on the floor. Let all the Dems vote aye or nay on reparations.

  114. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    110. Well said by Collins.

  115. lisab says:

    st anlem’s poll of nh

    Biden 21% (-2)
    Harris 18% (+11)
    Warren 17% (+8)
    Buttigieg 12% (+1)
    Sanders 10% (-6)
    Yang 5%
    Klobuchar 3% (+1)
    Williamson 2% (new)
    Booker 1%
    Baggerd 1%
    Gillibrand 1%

  116. DW says:

    Sanders at 10% in NH means he is toast.

  117. dblaikie says:

    Well Uncle Joe has struck again. He claimed that Trump is the most racist President in history. I guess he forgot the ones that owned slaves. Such a brilliant analysis.

  118. John says:

    117
    Burned toast. Throw him out.

  119. DW says:

    Incredible. Trump wants an actual racist to go back where she came from, and Trump is the one called a racist. But we have been used to this double-standard ever since Obama approvingly quoted his pastor’s words, “White folks greed runs a world in need.”

  120. jason says:

    So only 4 Republicans plus the Paulbot decided to play the Dems game.

    I would like to sell some almost dry land in Florida to these 4 gullible morons.

  121. jason says:

    Collins really had the perfect balance.

    Make sure you condemn the socialists and anti-semites while stating Trump was over the line.

    Way over the line. Ok. Racist. No.

  122. jason says:

    This is the number of times Trump has been over the line since he announced for President.

    2,856 1/2.

  123. jason says:

    NEW YORK (Reuters) – Support for U.S. President Donald Trump increased slightly among Republicans after he lashed out on Twitter over the weekend in a racially charged attack on four minority Democratic congresswomen, a Reuters/Ipsos public opinion poll shows.”

    Are all Rs racists?

    I don’t think so, but they know how the MSM operates, and they can make their own judgments on what is racist and what isn’t.

    Telling these communists they should go back and try their ideology on where they came from and then come back is not racist.

  124. Phil says:

    House votes to condemn Trump’s for his “racist” tweets.

    Bait taken.

  125. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Considering how far the radical left has moved the goalposts, going over the line may be necessary to again balance the playing field.

  126. Bitterlaw says:

    RIP, Justice Stevens. I can’t think of any major decision where I agreed with him Both can be true.

  127. jason says:

    He voted to reimpose the death penalty, so I can agree with that.

  128. jason says:

    I would have worded it slightly differently but I think making the “Squad” the face of the Democratic party is not only good politics, it is accurate.

  129. Phil says:

    Another brilliant Supreme Court pick by a Republican President.

  130. lisab says:

    Schumer announces support for slavery reparations…

  131. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – OK. I agreed with one.