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Sanders Leads Trump By 1% Nationally

Rasmussen Reports released a new poll on Friday showing Bernie Sanders leading Donald Trump by a single percentage point nationally.

PRESIDENT – NATIONAL (Rasmussen)
Bernie Sanders (D) 46%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 45%

This poll was done July 21-August 1 among 5000 likely voters.

Posted by Dave at 1:16 pm
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317 Responses to “Sanders Leads Trump By 1% Nationally”

  1. Bitterlaw says:

    First

  2. Wes says:

    I know. Standard caveats about the timing of the election apply. Still, Rasmussen was Trump’s Last Redoubt for popularity. If Sanders is leading Trump despite Sanders’ overt radicalism that’s not a good sign for the President.

    Trump had better hope Dems go as far left as possible next year and run a campaign of Christine O’Donnell-level ineptitude.

  3. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes- Trump will win because his supporters want him to win. That’s all you need to know.

  4. Wes says:

    I’m aware of the psychology, Bitter.

    It reminds me of 2008 when I saw about 400 million scenarios telling me how Obama could never hope to beat McCain. Of course Obama ultimately did win a not-close election over McCain.

  5. Hugh says:

    But for Great Recession who knows what would have happened

  6. Wes says:

    Well, McCain trailed in virtually every poll. Bush was sitting at 30% in polls. Obama outspent McCain sharply and organized one of the best GOTV operations in recent memory.

    It’s pretty clear what would have happened without the Great Recession, Hugh.

    Let’s not kid ourselves and try to rewrite history.

  7. Wes says:

    Wes says:
    August 4, 2019 at 12:37 pm
    There’s no single causal answer, Janz, as each person will have individual psychology, background, and motivation, but I would suspect press sensationalism plays a big role.

    Our media flock to these kinds of things and give a kind of antiheroic Natural Born Killers-style notoriety to the events. Thus, people suffering from mental illness or feeling suicidal may decide to “go out with a bang,” so to speak and lash out at the life they feel has failed them while attaining a brief fame that would have eluded them had they continued being nondescript and not committed such a heinous act.

    Obviously this wouldn’t apply to all for the reasons I stated at the beginning of my post, but I would bet it’s a factor in many of the shootings.

    I would point out Finland once had a similar problem but cracked down on press coverage of mass killings and saw a large decrease in the number of incidents as a result.

    Maybe a similar reaction here would have a similar salutory effect since Finland has already provided us the template.

  8. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    7. Wes, you beat me to using Finland example. Its time for the American press to adopt the “No name, no photo, no notoriety” policy. After it was adopted in Finland, there has not been another mass shooting.

    FINLAND PROVIDES A MODEL THAT THE AMERICAN MEDIA MIGHT TAKE NOTE OF. AFTER TWO SCHOOL SHOOTINGS IN THE TOWNS OF JOKELA (2007) AND KAUHAJOKI (2008), MEDIA ORGANIZATIONS EXAMINED THEIR PRACTICES AND MADE SOME CHANGES. THE FINNISH MEDIA HAD PUBLICIZED THE PERPETRATORS’ MANIFESTOS — WHICH, NOT SO IRONICALLY, REFERENCED THE COLUMBINE ATTACKERS — AND PROVIDED WALL-TO-WALL COVERAGE OF THE KILLERS. IN THE END, FINNISH JOURNALISTS ADOPTED A POLICY SIMILAR TO THOSE PROPOSED IN THE NO NOTORIETY CAMPAIGN. SOME JOURNALISTS PROTESTED, BUT THE CHANGES HAVE LARGELY STUCK.

    NO NAME. NO PHOTO. NO NOTORIETY.
    IT’S A MATTER OF PUBLIC SAFETY
    The quest for notoriety and infamy is a well known motivating factor in rampage mass killings and violent copycat crimes. In an effort to reduce future tragedies, we CHALLENGE THE MEDIA – calling for RESPONSIBLE MEDIA COVERAGE FOR THE SAKE OF PUBLIC SAFETY when reporting on individuals who commit or attempt acts of rampage mass violence thereby depriving violent like minded individuals the media celebrity and media spotlight they so crave.

    https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2018/2/22/17041382/school-shooting-media-coverage-perpetrator-parkland

  9. Tina says:

    Anna Giaritelli
    @Anna_Giaritelli
    ·
    59m
    BREAKING: Sister of alleged Dayton shooter and her boyfriend found shot dead in a car; authorities probing connection to massacre – WNBC

  10. lisab says:

    CHICAGO (CBS)– At least three people were killed and 37 were wounded in weekend shootings across Chicago.

    This weekend total includes four shootings on August 2, 12 shootings on August 3 and five shootings on August 4.

    There were two mass shooting overnight in Chicago.

  11. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The shooters in all the incidents of mass shooting seem to share one trait, they are deeply troubled individuals who are looking for their moment of fame. They know that their horrible act of shooting a large number people will make them media stars.

  12. lisab says:

    tina,

    the ohio shooter was engaged within 1 minute

    the el paso shooter had 20

    and it was not like the el paso shooter was in the boondocks

  13. Tina says:

    Lisa, the Gilroy ca shooter (my backyard) was engaged in a minute.

    I noted the 20 minute response in the other thread.

  14. lisab says:

    this is very sad but also very funny

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryJteQTPBlU

    (these are NOT utopian socialists btw)

  15. lisab says:

    did the el paso cops stop for donuts?

  16. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    In another part of Texas, there was a strong possibility the shooter would have been taken down by a civilian. The store the shooter targeted has a customer base consisting of Mexicans nationals, who are unlikely to be armed. However, I am still surprised their was not some sort of armed security in the store — perhaps there was, and we will learn they did not engage the shooter.

    The Mexican nations are mostly from neighboring Juarez, which is subject to strong Mexican gun laws. Juarez had 1247 murders in 2018, mostly people who were shot. Criminals don’t seem to obey gun laws.

  17. Tina says:

    Chuck Ross
    @ChuckRossDC
    ·
    24m
    Days ago, Barr directed DOJ to resume executions in federal cases, after 16 year hiatus. 1 of the 5 scheduled for death is a white supremacist who murdered three people.

  18. Tina says:

    Evidently no police near a shopping area?

  19. lisab says:

    Evidently no police near a shopping area?
    —————————————–

    that was what i was thinking …

    i got ticketed for stopping and picking up a person in front of a department store … because it was a yellow zone …

    i was there for no more than 60 seconds …

  20. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    As a resident of California, can say I am proud of how California law enforcement quickly reacts to mass shootings. They go in immediately after the shooter. In Thousand Oaks a sheriff’s officer lost his life doing so.

    About a mile away from where I live in San Diego, a man with a AR-15 started shooting into an Asian restaurant. Police were there within a couple of minutes. The shooter had run away, but they tracked and found him within 20 minutes.

  21. lisab says:

    CNBC
    ?
    Verified account

    @CNBC
    Follow Follow @CNBC
    More
    She has $500,000 in student loans, as more borrowers are saddled with six-figure balances.

  22. Tina says:

    Yup, In Ca, the cops will engage, Many times, the suspect won’t live.

  23. lisab says:

    Elisha Bokman has been out of school for eight years. Still, her student loan balance is half a million dollars.

    Today, for her doctorate degree in naturopathic medicine and master’s in acupuncture from Bastyr University, she owes $499,322.69.

    She and her husband struggled to buy a house because of her debt. Eventually, the financial stress led them to a divorce. “He felt like he couldn’t live his life or do the things he wanted to do,” Bokman, 38, said. She wanted to open her own medical practice, but she said her student debt prevents her from getting a business loan.

    “It really effects the remainder of your life,” Bokman said. “There’s no out.”

  24. Tina says:

    Maria B., the money honey, reports that the Maine Chicklet was one of the Senators against Ratcliffe.

    Who predicted this?

  25. Victrc says:

    Why was there so much opposition to Radcliffe. I have to admit ignorance on this, hence why I ask

  26. Tina says:

    Ratcliffe destroyed Mulehead during his testimony,

  27. Tina says:

    Here is the gp article on Ratcliffe (Bartiromo video is imbedded)

  28. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    August 4, 2019 at 3:34 pm
    Ratcliffe destroyed Mulehead during his testimony,

    – When do Ratcliffe’s confirmation hearings begin?

    Oh, that’s right. He didn’t even last five days because he was totally unqualified for the job and he lied on his resume. But, but, but he was so good on Maria Trumpirono’s show.

    By the way, sorry your outlandish BS lie that the shooter’s manifesto was a fake proved to be BS just like every other BS conspiracy you push here.

  29. Tina says:

    All because Ratcliffe was “too tough” on Fuhrer, per the Maine .chicklet and two senior gopwrs refused to meet with him.

    Swamp dwellers.

  30. Tina says:

    Here is the video from Mulehead debacle. Ratcliffe destroys him.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BEIN_Y_ftfI

  31. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “More than 20% of millennials surveyed in a YouGov poll released this week claimed that they don’t have a single friend. And less than a third of Millennials said they have double-digit friends, according to the data, culled online in early July.”

    * * *

    “a 2018 study out of the University of Pennsylvania linked usage of apps like Facebook and Instagram to social isolation. “Using less social media than you normally would leads to significant decreases in both depression and loneliness,” the study’s author, psychologist Melissa Hunt, said at the time.”

    It used to be that when you went into a coffee house you would see young people being gregarious and talking. Now they are staring at computer screens like zombies; there is little conversation going on.

  32. Wes says:

    Tina, Ohio has had no voter registration since 2003. The Dayton shooter may have voted in a Dem primary, but since he would have first been eligible to vote in 2013, he couldn’t have been a registered Dem.

  33. Wes says:

    I just checked the OHSOS website. He must have voted in a Dem primary, which for that cycle would have classified him as a Dem.

  34. Tina says:

    If it’s him:

    Party:
    DEM
    Voting History (up to county’s last 20 elections):
    Voted:X – 05/07/19 Special
    Voted:X – 11/06/18 General
    Voted:D – 05/08/18 Primary
    Voted:X – 11/07/17 General
    Voted:X – 11/08/16 General
    Voted:D – 03/15/16 Primary
    Voted:X – 11/06/12 General

  35. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Mexico on Sunday threatened to take legal action against the United States for failing to protect its citizens after this weekend’s mass shooting in the border city of El Paso.
    Of the 20 people gunned down at a Walmart at the Cielo Vista Mall, at least three were Mexican citizens, and Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard promised Mexico City will act.
    Ebrard called Saturday’s shooting an “act of barbarism.”
    “The president has instructed me to ensure that Mexico’s indignation translates into … efficient, prompt, expeditious and forceful legal actions for Mexico to take a role and demand that conditions are established that protect … Mexicans in the United States,” Ebrard said in a video posted on Twitter.
    Of the 26 injured in the attack, at least nine were Mexican nationals, according to the government.”

    They should build a wall. Am sure El Paso residents will begin fleeing into neighboring Juarez, where there were about 1250 murders last year.

  36. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “MEXICO CITY (Reuters) – Murders in Mexico jumped in the first half of the year to the highest on record, according to official data, underscoring the vast challenges President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador faces in reducing violence in the cartel-ravaged country.
    There were 14,603 murders from January to June, versus the 13,985 homicides registered in the first six months of 2018, according to data posted over the weekend on the website of Mexico’s national public security office.
    Mexico is on course to surpass the 29,111 murders of last year, an all-time high.”

    Sounds like they need some tough gun control laws — oh wait, they already have them.

  37. Tina says:

    I think there needs to be an investigation as to why the El Paso Pd did not apparently engage the killer.

    It is and was a big issue in Florida with the Firing of Sheriff Drat.

    Will be a big issue here.

  38. Tina says:

    A statement from the oh shooter confirms that he is a leftist:

    Heavy.com
    @HeavySan
    In his Twitter profile, Connor Betts, the 24-year-old suspected gunman in the Dayton mass shooting, wrote, “he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i’m going to hell and i’m not coming back.” (link: http://bit.ly/2KpcrCL) bit.ly/2KpcrCL

  39. lisab says:

    More than 20% of millennials surveyed in a YouGov poll released this week claimed that they don’t have a single friend.”

    have you read anything that robbie\corey has posted

    the bodies were not cold and he was trolling

  40. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Papa D transcript will show hi rejecting halpers help. It would be treason. This is further proof that the Mulehead investigation was a hoax. Weissmanarse et al never identified any exculpatory papa d info,

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/gowdy-calls-for-papadopoulos-halper-transcript-to-be-released-says-there-are-going-to-be-others-video/

  41. Tina says:

    Jebot is Mute.

    Ryan Saavedra
    @RealSaavedra
    ·
    59m
    Reminder that just a few weeks ago a left-wing domestic terrorist that attacked an ICE facility used Ocasio-Cortez’s “concentration camp” rhetoric in his manifesto and AOC repeatedly *refused* to condemn the attack

  42. Bitterlaw says:

    Now they are reporting a 6 minute response in El Paso. Shouldn’t this be easy to track down?

  43. Robbie says:

    Bruce Poliquin not running for re-election in ME2.

    The bottom is falling out of the Republican Party.

  44. Robbie says:

    I think it’s cute conspiracy theorist Tinfoil Tina quotes a reporter who was fired from of all places Breitbart.

  45. Tina says:

    Cute conspiracy theory = your Russian hoax.

    How is porn lawyah doing?

  46. Tina says:

    Leftist shooter in oh, vote blue for gods sake. Will piglosi condemn him? What about the squad?

    https://heavy.com/news/2019/08/connor-betts-twitter-politics-social-media/

  47. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Ohio shooter said ICE agents weren’t human. He parroted the squad,

    The Dayton Ohio shooter was far left wing, his social media account confirms.

  48. janz says:

    El Paso shooting in a “gun free” zone. Don’t know if that helped the gunman in targeting a more vulnerable location, much like the Aurora, CO theatre shooting, years ago.

  49. Tina says:

    I will bet that the leftist shooter was pro Antifa, or sympathetic to it.

  50. Phil says:

    Has Avenatti decided whether he’s running yet? I know he’s been mulling it over for a couple of days. I’m interested in knowing if he’s still, what’s that the gals on the View said? Oh yeah, whether he is still going to save our Republic. I guess we’ll know for sure if he starts showing up on CNN again five nights a week.

  51. janz says:

    Tina, as dems always use identity politics to subsist on, they will continue to preach the white supremacy theme, even though voter rolls or a shooter’s rhetoric may say otherwise.

  52. Tina says:

    He also appears to be a Bernie bro.

  53. dblaikie says:

    2 Glad to see my friend Wes is moving (albeit glacially) towards my position. A couple of months ago Trump was a slam dunk loser in 2020. Now he says, “Trump had better hope Dems go as far left as possible next year and run a campaign of Christine O’Donnell-level ineptitude.” So Trump has, for my fellow poster, has gone from the election is already over to a slim chance. That is progress.

  54. John says:

    Trying hard to understand the El Paso shooter’s manifesto. Here’s what I come with…

    1) Wanted universal income
    2) Wanted unisersal healthcare
    3) Had a problem with the environment (global warming – I don’t know)
    4) Hated big corporations
    5) Denied being a white supremacist
    6) Wrote that Trump was not to blame

    https://drudgereport.com/flashtx.htm

  55. Tina says:

    The Gilroys political leanings/motives are still not known.

    While he had a book about white supremacy, he had books on. Radical Jihadism.

  56. janz says:

    #58. John, those were pretty much the major points of that manifesto.

  57. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    59. The Gilroy shooter was part Iranian. Not that this means anything; the Iranian population in California is successful and patriotic. But it refutes the idea of him being a white supremacist.

  58. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    58. “Trying hard to understand the El Paso shooter’s manifesto.”

    How to understand it — he’s totally nuts!

  59. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    56. “He also appears to be a Bernie bro.”

    Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!

    Radical Marxists killing people? What a novel thought.

  60. Tina says:

    Well, the Ohio shooter was also against gun violence and wanted guns banned.

    He also made satanic remarks in a few of his tweets.

  61. janz says:

    From all the remarks posted here about the Shooters, I agree with SD regarding the “nuts” diagnosis.

  62. janz says:

    As Bett’s profile unfolds he apparently hated Trump, Republicans, supported Warren for president, liked the squad, and had Antifa leanings. This doesn’t sound like a conservative lackey.

  63. Bitterlaw says:

    Watching Serengeti on Discovery Channel. Amazing footage.

    So far, baboons are jealous of each other. Lions are slut shaming.

  64. Victrc says:

    Bitter

    Had to take my mom to the hospital and watching the same show in the waiting room. It truly is amazing. See. Even baboon makes will go to extremes to impress women…taking on a Jaguar lol

  65. Bitterlaw says:

    Vic – I hope things go well for your mom.

    Animals are d-bags, too.

  66. Bitterlaw says:

    Bad news. A mother baboon and a mother hyena got zipped on Serengeti tonight. Father animals – useless jerks except for the elephants.

  67. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    70. If God made this world, then I would not want to be the God. It is full of misery and distress that it breaks my heart.

    Schopenhauer

  68. Tina says:

    Breaking

    The Dayton mass shooter’s alleged account followed an Antifa group called the Central Ohio Social Rifle Association, a chapter of the nationwide SRA

  69. Proud Obamacon says:

    I can only imagine what kind of police state we would be living in if all the terrorist attacks in the last few weeks were perpetrated by brown people with or without accents. We are apparently very tolerant of radical ultra-conservative terrorism. Rhetoric has created a war that people have started to fight. A sad chapter in our history.

  70. Tina says:

    The Washington Times
    @WashTimes
    ·
    55m
    Ohio gunman Connor Betts described himself on social media as a pro-Satan “leftist” who hated President Trump and law enforcement and hoped to vote for Sen. Elizabeth Warren for president.

  71. Victrc says:

    Bitter

    thanks, shes doing better.

    PO… I don’t know of one person who isnt disgusted, outraged and saddened by the tragedies committed this weekend. Odd…you don’t want people characterized, marginalized or generalized by the color of their skin…yet you do exactly that.

    White Terrorists, Brown Terrorists, Black Terrorists, Male Terrorists, Female Terrorists all share one thing in common. They are terrorists and the scourge of the world. We condemn them all the same.

  72. lisab says:

    po … over 1500 people were shot in chicago alone this year, many fatal and largely by “brown” people

    which is significantly down since 2016, but still …

  73. Proud Obamacon says:

    76 yes it’s tragic, why are you bringing up Chicago? Is it to minimize the shootings of the last few days?

  74. lisab says:

    I can only imagine what kind of police state we would be living in if all the terrorist attacks in the last few weeks were perpetrated by brown people
    —————————————-

    because you said the above … and chicago has this type of shootings every week

  75. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This weekend in Chicago, 47 people were shot, 4 of whom were killed. This happens every weekend. So far 1,517 people have been shot this year in Chicago. This is less than the 1,646 in 1998. Why is this being ignored? It should be front page news all the time. To sweep it under the rung because it cannot be politicized is bull.

  76. lisab says:

    sdc,

    fortunately the violence in chicago has gone down a lot since 2016 …

    probably due to the better economy

  77. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    When Trump directed his attorney general to “help straighten out the terrible shooting wave” in Chicago, the AP headline was:

    “Trump blast “terrible” Chicago crime, but figures are down.”

    Its all about twisting headlines to attack Trump.

  78. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    80. Anywhere else in the country if 4 were killed and 42 wounded in shootings, it would be front page news. The media seems not to want to cover the slaughter in Chicago.

  79. Tina says:

    Gaffe Biden has no clue where the shootings occurred, per the twitter feed of this politico reporter:

    Christopher Cadelago
    @ccadelago
    ·
    1 godz.
    Also, this: “Biden almost immediately spoke of the two recent mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton, Ohio, at first referring to them as “the tragic events in Houston today and also in Michigan the day before” but later correcting himself.”

  80. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I don’t know what would be worse — being a Trump supporter afraid of what Trump will say in his next tweet; or a Biden supporter afraid of Biden saying something incoherent.

  81. Phil says:

    Yeah, Amen to that one.

  82. Big Joe says:

    Heartbreaking last few days made even worse by the fact that the first thing people want to do is to blame the other side.

    Folks, when a crazed lunatic is spraying gunfire, there are no sides, there is only one side. As long as our first instinct is to blame the president or blame the media or blame a particular political party, then nothing will be done to address this very serious problem that we are facing.

    Big Joe

  83. Big Joe says:

    What’s happening in Chicago is tragic. But it doesn’t inspire the fear and horror of the mass shootings in El Paso, Vegas, schools, etc …

    I can choose to not go to Chicago on my next vacation or business trip. But I go to Walmart all the time. I have three kids in school. I go with my family to festivals. movies, restaurants, regularly. It’s different. It’s horrifying knowing that any moment can turn into sheer terror. I can not imagine what the victims went through and what their families are going through right now.

    Big Joe

  84. Robbie says:

    Sean T at RCP
    @SeanTrende

    People grossly oversold GOP vulnerability in TX pre-Trump and are grossly underselling it now. Texas is an overwhelmingly urban/suburban state, so GOP weakening in the suburbs is felt disproportionately in TX. It could go blue, quickly, under this current configuration

    – MAGA! MAGA! MAGA!

  85. Phil says:

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  86. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie:
    After 2018, Sean Trende’s predictions took a fairly significant hit.
    Just a few weeks before election day in 2018, Mr. Trende predicted a Democrat Senate with No. Dakota being the only GOP Senate pick-up and the Democrats gaining Arizona, Nevada and Tennessee and possibly Texas.
    So it is Trende’s contention that Texans want a bunch of Socialists representing the State on the Federal level? His claim is similar to the conventional wisdom after the 2008 election results in Indiana. It did not happen. It’s too early to tell anything about 2020.

  87. Robbie says:

    CNBC Now
    @CNBCnow

    Dow extends drop in early trading to more than 500 points or nearly 2%

    – Time for more patriotic tariffs.

  88. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 5, 2019 at 9:45 am
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    – Don’t worry, Phil. I know it Trump somehow loses TX next year (he won’t), you’ll blame “muh illegals” rather than accept that the fact Trump has completely wrecked the Republican Party’s image, especially in the suburbs.

  89. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    August 5, 2019 at 9:48 am
    Robbie:
    After 2018, Sean Trende’s predictions took a fairly significant hit.

    – By all means, continue to cover your eyes and believe everything is fine. It worked so well in 2018, didn’t it?

  90. Big Joe says:

    Just a few miles from my home. Very scary. We visit this Walmart regularly.

    “Knife-Wielding Suspect Causes Marietta Walmart Evacuation”
    https://patch.com/georgia/southcobb/s/gsvcu/knife-wielding-suspect-causes-marietta-walmart-evacuation

    Big Joe

  91. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Robbie:
    Be a man and address the #2 and #3 points in my #90 posting above.
    If you do not, you will have once again earned your moniker as “Half-Truth Robbie”.

    On a personal level, why is bad news such a turn-on for you?

  92. Robbie says:

    Even the WSJ is going hard on Trump. “These columns have long warned Mr. Trump about the divisive tone of his public rhetoric. He should separate himself forcefully and consistently from alt-right and white-supremacy voices.”

    But muh invasion.

  93. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    August 5, 2019 at 9:56 am
    Robbie:
    Be a man and address the #2 and #3 points in my #90 posting above.
    If you do not, you will have once again earned your moniker as “Half-Truth Robbie”.
    On a personal level, why is bad news such a turn-on for you?

    – Let me be clear. I don’t give a rat’s rear end what an avowed and moronic Trumper like you thinks. You unabashedly support a bigot who is destroying the Republican Party.

  94. Phil says:

    I am very well versed on Texas and well aware of the political and electoral landscape of my state – more than you will ever be.

    It’s a combination. Weakening of Republican strength in the Dallas, Austin, and San Antonio suburbs (surprisingly not Houston suburbs), California move ins bringing their leftist politics with them and, mostly, the continuing demographic changes.

    The demographic changes will make Texas blue. That is inevitable. The suburban erosion is indeed speeding up the what will be happen. The only unknown is exactly when – probably fairly soon. Once Texas is gone Republican\s will never again sniff the White House. Happy?

  95. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #97
    A typical Robbie unhinged reply. Name calling is the best he can do when challenged.

    Most people at the HHR including myself would like to see Trump “turn down the heat” and stop using Twitter as a site to brawl with his adversaries. He hurts himself politically with his combativeness.
    That said, he is “the straw thar stirs the drink” in Washington and will receive my vote, unequivocably, in 2020.

  96. janz says:

    Robbie only comes around to rub in caustic commentary & berate those who see things differently than he does. There is literally no benefit derived from him other than being a divisive annoyance.

  97. Phil says:

    Sheeple – Trump needs to STFU with the petty stuff on Twitter and focus on the booming economy. Not sure he’s capable of it, however. Right now he is the only thing standing between the USA and a socialist future advocated by a a political party gone insane. He will thusly have my vote.

  98. Phil says:

    Janz

    On the money, my friend.

  99. janz says:

    Whatever reservations I have with Trump’s tweets and overall in-your-face behavior is overturned by the destructive responses of fringe dems and anti Trump people like Robbie. Basically, the mostly unfounded rhetoric of the latter creates wounds rather than heals them, accelerating partisan riffs, acting more like stumbling blocks than antidotes to productively solving our current problems.

  100. janz says:

    Phil, Trump needs to achieve a better balance on when to hit back and when to hold his fire.

    Like you and sheeple, though, I will most likely vote for him in 2020 as it is still a binary decision (much like with HRC) between voting for a free market vs society being controlled by a central government.

  101. VictrC says:

    The irony is that people like Robbie, who rail against Trump supporters for being stubborn and not accepting of any criticism, are EXACTLY the same. They want and believe that only Rockerfeller Republicans (who I have dealt with in NYC for many years and are basically one skip right of Democrats) and their mantra is how the R party should be. They claim to want a big tent, but only if those who enter the tent believe exactly as they do, nominate squishy “conservatives” and vote for the same squishy.

    They think we win by becoming the other party lite rather than standing strong in Conservative principles. They are also just as dead-Enders as dead-endears as they also agree in “sending a message” by not voting for the Republican nominee (just like dead-Enders) or worse, voting Democrat to really send a message that they won’t tolerate anyone who believes differently than they do.

    Is Trump a true Conservative. NO. Are his twitter rants and some of his rhetoric defeatists and make it difficult for other candidates. Absolutely. Are his tariffs insane and hurting the economy. 100%. Would I rather have seen a different candidate as our nominee. Absolutely. Did I vote for Trump in 2016. No.

    Is Trump better than Hillary on EVERY single issue. 1,000,000,000%. Has Trump been Conservative on a number of issues. Absolutely. Judges – this alone is worth his election as hes been great on judges. Economy – other than tariffs hes been great. Military – been fantastic. I was impressed with his Iran response as he controlled his bombastic character and did the right thing. Our Allies – he’s brought back our traditional allies that were disregarded/ignored under Obama.

    Real Republicans understand its better to have him in the White House than a leftist Democrat and anyone who votes differently is no better than the deadenders they rail against.

  102. Proud Obamacon says:

    Big Joe, good thing crazy dude had a knife and not a gun. The gun people will say there’s no difference, but there’s a huge difference. A knife wielding loon might lunge at a few and hopefully not do much damage. A body armor wearing assault weapon firing loon can kill quite a few before anyone even knows where the bullets are coming from or can do anything about it.

    #RESIST!

  103. Robbie says:

    On March 2, 2018, economic wizard Donald Trump tweeted “trade wars are good and easy to win”.

    Tell me Trumpers, can you point me to the bank account that shows China is paying tariffs directly to the US as economic wizard Trump claims.

  104. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 5, 2019 at 10:05 am
    The demographic changes will make Texas blue. That is inevitable. The suburban erosion is indeed speeding up the what will be happen. The only unknown is exactly when – probably fairly soon. Once Texas is gone Republican\s will never again sniff the White House. Happy?

    – Ah, yes. Phil once again goes with the view demographics will kill the Republican Party.

    Here’s a wild thought. How about the party reach out to the growing demographics rather than hold political rallies where the crowd chants “send her back” or talk about immigration as an invasion just as the El Paso shooter called it.

  105. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    August 5, 2019 at 10:11 am
    #97
    A typical Robbie unhinged reply. Name calling is the best he can do when challenged.
    Most people at the HHR including myself would like to see Trump “turn down the heat” and stop using Twitter as a site to brawl with his adversaries. He hurts himself politically with his combativeness.
    That said, he is “the straw thar stirs the drink” in Washington and will receive my vote, unequivocably, in 2020.

    – Unhinged is people who continually excuse Trump’s outright bigotry and stupidity. Imagine if the party had pushed back on Trump’s bigotry two years ago after Charlottesville rather than yelling “but muh Antifa” or deciding Confederate statutes were worth defending.

    You and many like you have ignored every warning sign that Trump is crushing the party and have chosen to stick your head in the sand and pretend Trump is playing 87 dimensional chess. I’ve got some bad news for you. There is no strategy with Trump. He’s like a cornered animal lashing out. That’s why the dunce has never had an approval rating higher than 45% with a roaring economy.

  106. Phil says:

    Hey, Robbie. Ever hear of Ray Teixeira? Wrote The Emerging Democratic Majority? Ring a bell? How about David Plouffe? Ran Obama’s two presidential campaigns. Both extreme leftists. Have said the same thing I have. Perhaps they too are xenophobic white racists like you claim I am. Closet Trumpites both of them. Damn, who knew?

  107. VictrC says:

    Robbie

    So how do you talk to the changing demographics. Remember that here in Texas (as I live here now) Hispanics are not the monolith that they are in NYC, Chicago and CA. Here many Hispanics vote Republican and are very conservative. They also despise illegal immigration into their Texas (Texans are Texans first, then Americans).

    Should Conservatives pander to them, tell them the things that Democrats do…that they are victims, that white people are bad, promise them more government spending on programs they want, etc? You would think that most Hispanics would gravitate towards Conservatives values (God, Family, Work), but if you look at whats happened in Latin America, especially Mexico where many traditionally marginalized economic groups are voting in larger numbers, you see a marked shift left with the election of AMLO.

    As for the invasion comment that is pure BS that came from a lunatic. No one here has ever said that, the President has never called it that, and I don’t hear any commentators calling immigration an invasion. Please be intellectual honest and realize that there is a difference between legal immigration that is the cornerstone of our country, and ILLEGAL immigration which is a strain on our economy, our resources and our sense of community.

    “Send her back”. – you conveniently forget the rest of the quote which said “then come back and show us how its done.” I remember when I was young my dad and grandfather used to say that if you don’t love America get out. That is what the comment was referring to. Four anti-American haters. And make no mistake, they HATE America. To make those four victims is absurd.

  108. Robbie says:

    janz says:
    August 5, 2019 at 10:26 am
    Whatever reservations I have with Trump’s tweets and overall in-your-face behavior is overturned by the destructive responses of fringe dems and anti Trump people like Robbie. Basically, the mostly unfounded rhetoric of the latter creates wounds rather than heals them, accelerating partisan riffs, acting more like stumbling blocks than antidotes to productively solving our current problems.

    – Yeah, it’s anti-Trump Republicans like me who are the problem and not the bozo who in the White House who is a bigot and uses his Twitter feed and his public rallies to attack his opponents as scum.

    Who has the bigger megaphone, dummy. Me in this forum, or Trump as the president?

  109. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 5, 2019 at 10:58 am
    Hey, Robbie. Ever hear of Ray Teixeira? Wrote The Emerging Democratic Majority? Ring a bell? How about David Plouffe? Ran Obama’s two presidential campaigns. Both extreme leftists. Have said the same thing I have. Perhaps they too are xenophobic white racists like you claim I am. Closet Trumpites both of them. Damn, who knew?

    – Demographics is not destiny. For whatever reason, you treat Hispanics and African Americans as incapable of accepting conservative views. I don’t. I believe with the right message they can become Republicans. You just want to throw your hands up in the air and say we’re doomed. That’s defeatist.

  110. Robbie says:

    VictrC says:
    August 5, 2019 at 11:01 am
    As for the invasion comment that is pure BS that came from a lunatic. No one here has ever said that, the President has never called it that, and I don’t hear any commentators calling immigration an invasion

    – As recently as May, Trump referred to immigration as an invasion. But since you sound like a FoxNews conservative talking point generator, I’m not surprised you wouldn’t know that.

    Also, defending “send her back” chant really does show that you’re in the sewer and there’s literally nothing Trump could do that would bother you.

    I know it’s really hard for some of you to accept that the country isn’t as white as it once was, but that’s just tough.

  111. VictrC says:

    Robbie. – What is the right message to bring Hispanics and AA into the fold. Democrats and squishy R have done their work and have used race baiting (which Obama was a master at) to turn politics from the left – right paradigm to be completely about race. White people bad, brown/black people victims. You see it with the gang. Every single issue to them is seen on the brown/white spectrum and no other.

    How is that overcome? How do we get past that? Rather than just name calling lets offer real solutions.

  112. Phil says:

    You’re right, Robbie. Let’s reach out.

    Decriminalize illegal immigration
    Open the borders and let the good times flow. Borders are immoral
    Offer free health care to everyone who comes across at tax payer expense
    Free education as well at tax payer expense
    Food stamps and perhaps throw in free subsidized housing at tax payer expense
    Make them voting citizens because they are now residents

    Is that enough to do the trick? Feel free to add to my outreach list. Of course it will never be enough because your lefty buds in the Democratic Party will always move the goal posts and have something else. The permanent underclass is what they need for power, but of course you can’t see that. Actually, you can, you just choose to ignore it because it’s inconvenient.

  113. Victrc says:

    As expected you offer no solutions, just name calling at me. You obviously don’t know what you are talking about. Send her home chants are AWFUL. I complete renounce them and also you must have missed two years of posts by me railing against Trump and advocating for anyone.

    You might have missed the fundraisers Ive held for Romney, for Rubio, and even your man Jeb…but yes, I am just a Fox News Talking point.

    You must have missed me going on TV and speaking in Spanish appealing to Hispanic voters that the R party is about God, Family and Work…just like Hispanics.

    But yes, you go on believing what you do, and railing against anyone who doesn’t think like you, talk like you and act like you. For 14 years I’ve been posting here and have only had negative statements about two people Bunu being one of them. I even try to engage the leftists.

    You keep believing what you believe. You are as much a deadender and responsible for the Party demise as ten Christine O’Donnell (sic).

  114. Phil says:

    Yep, we’re all Hispanic hating white racist Xenophobes. Especially me. I guess I was just too stupid to realize Marco Rubio wasn’t Lilly white when I voted for him in the primary and cut him two checks. My wife is obviously a dimwit as well because she also supported him….but hey, we favor locking down the borders. We’re Not as enlightened as St Robbie. We’re RACISTS. Bigots I tell ya!

  115. Victrc says:

    Phil

    No kidding. Same here, I was a Rubio guy. Was very disappointed in his performance. At the end of the day I don’t think he was ready, but Ive supported him, including financially since his run in ‘10.

    People like Robbie will never be happy until weve moved so far left we are not recognizable from the D party…or worse yet (better for him) we are recognizable because they become full socialist and we become what the D party is today.

    It’s vey sad.

  116. dblaikie says:

    The upshot of all Wormtongue’s posts is quite simple. He is a hopeless bigot. Now Worm I not calling you a racist, but you are a bigot filled with hate if your posts are a true picture of you. You’re hatred of people who support Trump borders on the point where you need professional help. Please go and visit your Pastor or Rabbi! If you don’t have one find a good counselor who can help you with a problem, if your posts truly reflect your opinions, that will eat you up. Quit being a worm and seek help!!!!

  117. Phil says:

    First of all, Vic, Robbie is not a Republican. He’s a lefty troll. You need to understand that. He doesn’t give a flying F about the fortunes of the Republican Party. Have you ever seen a Republican spew left wing talking points non stop like that guy? Me neither. He’s never seen a Republican retirement, bad Republican poll, that he doesn’t gleefully run over here to gloat about. It’s like clockwork. All you have to do is scan his posts.

  118. Phil says:

    Hopefully, the morning drive by has ended – til next time.

  119. janz says:

    “Unhinged is people who continually excuse Trump’s outright bigotry and stupidity. Imagine if the party had pushed back on Trump’s bigotry two years ago after Charlottesville rather than yelling “but muh Antifa” or deciding Confederate statutes were worth defending.”

    Robbie, thought it might be enlightening for you to review Steve Cortes’s factual news report regarding Charlottesville and the Robert E. Lee statue removal protest.

    BTW, Lee was far from being a racist, decrying slavery even more than Lincoln. Loyalty to Virginia is why he remained in the confederacy.

  120. janz says:

    Robbie is simply a reminder – a prime example — of how distasteful and politically dishonest someone can be.

  121. Cash Cow TM says:

    It is always interesting to see the profile of who recent shooters were…

    From Red State…after publishing various things about the Dayton shooter social media:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    “This all leaves very little question about who Betts really was. He was absolutely a far leftist. He was not a white supremacist and hated religious people. He repeated antifa, as well as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez talking points on his social media. He was a global warming enthusiast and an avowed socialist. Every piece of evidence we have points to his radicalization coming via the left, not the right.”

  122. janz says:

    From El Paso to Antifa to LA: America the Insane | Roger L. Simon

    Not that the politically blind-sighted, motivated gadfly will read nor try to understand the underlying reasons behind some of these violent incidents, but Simon does give it a try…..

    ” if you read the gunman’s manifesto, you would find the murderer as much in agreement, possibly more so, with Elizabeth Warren and O’Rourke himself than with Trump. The shooter wants universal healthcare and a guaranteed income. He also wants to kill Mexicans and to partition the country into equal race-based sections, a kind of identity politics taken to the nth power, not that any of this matters. The man is clearly insane, as was the now-deceased Dayton killer who was reportedly a Democrat and a Satanist, planning on voting for Warren, as well as, of course, being mentally ill. (“I want socialism, and i’ll [sic] not wait for the idiots to finally come round to understanding,” the Dayton shooter tweeted.)”

  123. Victrc says:

    Points taken.

    As I said, I’ve never responded to his thread killing posts, and usually scan past them since they contain more vitriol than anyone who isn’t a Ron Paul supporter.

    Unfortunately I know his kind, and they would like nothing more than to see the R party be a thing of the past.

    Phil, it’s going to be interesting to see what happens here in Texas. I think more than demographics changing it’s the influx of Californians to both Dallas and especially Austin. Go to westlake Hills and you’d for sure think you were somewhere in LA. It’s crazy.

    I have a home in Hurd’s district as well and think that one might be tonight to hold….except that the leftist mayor Nurenbirg almost lost (51%-49%). I’m hoping a large turnout for trump here will propel an R victory in the district

  124. Proud Obamacon says:

    Janz continues to try to pin the mass shooting on Democrats. Quite sad. Janz working overtime to protect her Orange Hero. Really pathetic.

  125. Paul says:

    111: Victr said: As for the invasion comment that is pure BS that came from a lunatic. No one here has ever said that, the President has never called it that….

    Trump has called it an invasion.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/06/24/trump-invade-country-immigrants-667191

    https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/413624-trump-calls-migrant-caravan-an-invasion

  126. Victrc says:

    Paul

    Thank you for the quotes. I read them carefully and after reading them I stand by my assertion. He was specifically referring to illegal immigrants when talking “invasion.” The caravan people were trying to enter the US illegally.

    With that said I do agree he should have used different words to describe the circumstance and using rhetoric like that doesn’t help us win over Hispanics, but to be clear, he was (rightly or wrongly) referring to those coming illegally.

  127. Robbie says:

    Kevin Corke
    @kevincorke

    #UPDATE The #Dow is down 700 points at 12:51 pm ET.

    – The patriotic tariffs just got larger.

    Really can’t wait to see the photo op of Trump receiving a tariff check from China.

  128. Phil says:

    Reaching out to Hispanics isn’t a winner for the Republican Party. Want absolute proof? I give you Exhibit A – the late, Honorable John McCain. No one “reached out” more over his career. He got the lowest percentage of Hispanic Vote for a Republican presidential candidate in presidential electoral history – 27%. A full eight percent less than that hateful, xenophobic, Donald Trump….because you see, no matter how much you “reach out” it’s never going to be enough. Take a long hard look at Exhibit A and get back to me.

  129. Victrc says:

    Phil

    I have to agree with you. The left and squishy’s have done enough of a job vilifiying conservatives and the AOC types who’ve turned it into a brown v White issue have driven enough of a wedge to make it difficult to overcome.

    All of this is brought to you by Obama. I think many truly have no idea of how horrible an influence he had on this country and how much he did to divide the country. He’s Trump on super steroids.

    The thing with Trump is that despite his rhetoric I believe he actually does care about the AA community and lifting it up, about getting people to work et al. It’s really a shame he can’t stop tripping over himself. Take away the two T’s from him. Twitter and tariffs.

  130. lisab says:

    What’s happening in Chicago is tragic. But it doesn’t inspire the fear and horror of the mass shootings in El Paso, Vegas, schools, etc …

    I can choose to not go to Chicago on my next vacation or business trip. But I go to Walmart all the time. I have three kids in school.
    ——————————

    Big Joe,

    the problem is … YOU can choose not to go to chicago

    but 5 million people live there

    and for them it does inspire fear and horror every day

    but their leaders don’t care

  131. Robbie says:

    James Pethokoukis
    @JimPethokoukis

    Patriotic Consumers | “The tariffs will have the same effect as a tax on the US consumer” – Moody’s

    – It’s patriotic so it’s no biggie. This is all part of Trump’s amazing 87 dimensional chess game where protectionism is actually free trade.

  132. Proud Obamacon says:

    I see Tina is quick to report that Biden misstated the location of one of the shootings, but simply forgot to report that Orange also misstated. I’m sure it was an honest oversight.

    Orange: “May God bless the memory of those who perished in Toledo, may God protect them.”

    #RESIST

  133. Big Joe says:

    #135 Lisa-
    Of course Chicago is absolute hell for the poor souls who live there, all 3 million of them who live in fear every day that it will be their last.

    But my point is that it doesn’t cause the same fear in people across the country. When we have random mass shootings in random places across the country, it creates incredible fear in all 300+ million residents of the US that the next random shooting will be in their walmart or school , etc.

    Big Joe

  134. lisab says:

    But my point is that it doesn’t cause the same fear in people across the country.
    ———————————

    but it should … because the people of chicago live their every day …

  135. Robbie says:

    amy walter
    @amyewalter

    The collapse of GOP in suburbs has been remarkable. 1) It’s no longer about region of the country, suburbs in Dallas/Houston behaving like suburbs in Denver, Chicago, Philly etc… (1)

    amy walter
    @amyewalter

    3) The ‘good economy’ isn’t enough to overcome the dislike these voters have for Trump’s rhetoric & behavior. And, the shootings in Dayton/El Paso only help make D’s case that the country can’t afford 4 more years of this kind of divisiveness.

    – Good thing patriotic tariff loving rural voters are all that matter.

  136. lisab says:

    But my point is that it doesn’t cause the same fear in people across the country.
    ———————————

    that people don’t care about chicago (and other inner cities)

    because it is not the white suburbs

    is not a good colour on anyone

  137. Big Joe says:

    “but it should … because the people of chicago live their every day …”

    It *should*, but it doesn’t.

    Big Joe

  138. lisab says:

    It *should*, but it doesn’t.
    ——————————–

    because inner city children, of all races, don’t matter

  139. Robbie says:

    John Harwood
    @JohnJHarwood

    if Trump follows through on next round of threatened China tariffs, independent economist Mark Zandi tells me, US economy is likely to slip into recession in 2020

    – This will be the first patriotic recession in the history of the country. Future generations will sing songs about the dear leader’s patriotic tariffs.

  140. NYCmike says:

    I heard on the news that the DOW had fallen – I figured Robbie would definitely be here, along with blaming Trump for the actions perpetrated by the sick individuals in Texas and Ohio – TYPICAL.

    Also, Robbie, like Bill Maher, WANTS a recession, so as to make it more likely that Trump, the Republican candidate, loses in 2020.

    AND, he still thinks that Trump is worse than any of the Democratic candidates. That says A LOT!

  141. Phil says:

    The guy has never had a negative thing to say about any Democratic candidate – ever. All the while reciting Democratic talking points on a daily basis.

    Democratic troll through and through, Mikey. Nothing more, nothing less.

  142. lisab says:

    I heard on the news that the DOW had fallen – I figured Robbie would definitely be here, along with blaming Trump for the actions perpetrated by the sick individuals in Texas and Ohio
    ————————-

    NYC,

    well can you blame him? with the 800 point drop the dow is only up 13% this year

    and robbie did strongly criticize obama for the

    geneva county shooting
    carthage nursing home shooting
    bingingham ny shooting
    the pittsburg police officers shooting
    the collier township shooting
    the fort hood shooting
    the abb plant shooting
    the appotomax shooting
    the university of alabama shooting
    the hartford beer shooting
    the safeway shooting
    the grand rapids shooting
    the copley township shooting
    the carson ihop shooting
    the seal beach shooting
    the edison shooting
    the chardon hs shooting
    the oikos university shooting
    the seatle cafe shooting
    the aurora movie theater shooting
    the wisconsin temple shooting
    the college station shooting
    the empire state shooting
    the accent signage shooting
    the azana spa shooting
    the clackamas shooting
    the sandy hook shooting
    and
    the webster shooting

  143. lisab says:

    of course those shootings don’t include the shootings by gangs

  144. NYCmike says:

    https://monsterhunternation.com/2015/06/23/an-opinion-on-gun-control-repost/

    “No. Hear me out. The single best way to respond to a mass shooter is with an immediate, violent response. The vast majority of the time, as soon as a mass shooter meets serious resistance, it bursts their fantasy world bubble. Then they kill themselves or surrender. This has happened over and over again.”

    Any update on the 20 minutes for the El Paso cops to respond?

  145. lisab says:

    however, regarding china

    their reaction today shows they are being hurt by the tariffs and they are, wisely, trying to hammer trump so that trump backs off

    it is the only thing they can do other than give in.

    they are losing billions … they just dropped behind canada and mexico as the usa’s top trading partner

  146. NYCmike says:

    Has it been mentioned that the El Paso Walmart was in a Gun-Free Zone?

    Has Robbie sought to have those federal laws rescinded so that more innocent people can defend themselves?

  147. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The leftist Atlantic magazine has an article entitled:

    “Why No One Wants to Talk About the Booming Economy” Democrats don’t want to help Republicans, and Republicans don’t want to sound like Keynesians.”

    It points out how well the U.S. economy is doing.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/08/whys-it-so-awkward-to-say-the-economy-is-great/595408/

  148. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Utah has issued 662,720 concealed carry licenses. In any public place, such as a Walmart, you can assume people are packing. Often will see rifle racks in cars and trucks, and even ARs. The only mass shooting I can recollect in Utah was at Trolley Barn Square Mall, in a liberal area of Salt Lake City — the mall was posted as a “Gun Free Zone.”

  149. NYCmike says:

    The economy, in my opinion, is a big balloon, getting ready to burst.

    We should have passed “The Penny Plan” over a decade ago, but it was pushed by a “Paulbot”, so “supposed conservatives” couldn’t stomach it.

    Trump has been as bad as Bush and Obama on spending, and Congress hasn’t put up any roadblocks in that regard, either.

    That said, I trust capitalism far more than any other system. When the bubble bursts, I personally hope I have enough years left before retirement to recover, OR I have already adjusted my holdings to deal with a shortened time horizon.

  150. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The movie theater in Aurora, Colorado where the shooting took place was a posted “Gun Free Zone.”
    There were other movie theaters closer to where the shooter resided that were not gun free zones.

  151. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I remember a well-known Oklahoma sports writer commenting after the Aurora shooting, that if anyone tried that at a theater in his area, he would have been quickly aerated.

  152. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    153. The most important thing Trump has done is to remove a large amount of the regulatory burden that inhibited business growth.

  153. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    As a “conservative Republican”, do you believe in the 2nd Amendment?

    https://www.rollcall.com/news/whitehouse/trump-opts-call-gun-control-bill-dayton-el-paso-shootings

    Trump seems to.

  154. NYCmike says:

    “153. The most important thing Trump has done is to remove a large amount of the regulatory burden that inhibited business growth.”

    -BUT, like Robbie and “CG” say, he is no better than any of the Democratic candidates.

  155. NYCmike says:

    “Heartbreaking last few days made even worse by the fact that the first thing people want to do is to blame the other side.”

    -Hi Big Joe,

    I have to vigorously disagree with you here.

    Republicans, well, I guess I will have to say “MOST” Republicans, blame the individual who did the shooting, and not “the other side”.

  156. NYCmike says:

    Big Joe,

    I disagree with how Democrats think they can fix the problem, with good reason.

    I do NOT think they are responsible for the carnage, in most cases.

  157. Waingro says:

    Political Polls
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    @Politics_Polls
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    2020 National GE:
    Biden 54% (+13)
    Trump 41%

    IBD/TIPP 7/25-8/1

  158. lisab says:

    that is a big change from the emmerson poll that had biden and sanders both at +2

    which was 7/27 – 7/29

  159. lisab says:

    soooooooo … the currency move by china hurt big tech badly

    it seems that their factories in china leave them open to the currency move

  160. Robbie says:

    Zeke Miller
    @ZekeJMiller

    WASHINGTON (AP) — US names China a currency manipulator after Beijing pushes down the yuan.

    – Prepare for a patriotic selloff as the patriotic trade war continues.

  161. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    August 5, 2019 at 5:42 pm
    Political Polls
    ?
    @Politics_Polls
    Follow Follow @Politics_Polls
    More
    2020 National GE:
    Biden 54% (+13)
    Trump 41%
    IBD/TIPP 7/25-8/1

    – Clearly, not a patriotic poll.

  162. Phil says:

    Oh goody. CNN To host another town hall on guns. Yea!! Surprised? Chris Cuomo to host. Can’t wait.

    Wonder if they’ll have ex sheriff Scott Israel on again to contribute moral guidance on the subject.

    Which Republican lawmaker wants to go on and be heckled and called a murderer by CNN’s “concerned and serious” hand picked audience. The last one was such a help.

    This is CNN.

  163. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #162 & 163
    In the same poll, the polling Company had Trump’s approval/ disapproval at 40/56, respectively,which is way over the current RCP net disapproval of 10.5%.
    Do either of you have the PID for this poll?

  164. Big Joe says:

    NYCMike,

    I dont know man, I’ve heard and read some very disheartening things from otherwise reasonable folks (on both sides). The left and right are growing further and further apart and it’s pretty scary.

    Big Joe

  165. Robbie says:

    The Dow futures are down about 425 points on the news the patriotic dear leader has declared China a currency manipulator in the latest move in his patriotic trade war.

    MAGA!

  166. Robbie says:

    It’s the ultimate 87 dimensional chess move for Trump to wreck the stock market and provoke a worldwide recession just as his re-election year begins. But at least trade wars are good and easy to win.

  167. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    August 5, 2019 at 3:23 pm
    I heard on the news that the DOW had fallen – I figured Robbie would definitely be here, along with blaming Trump for the actions perpetrated by the sick individuals in Texas and Ohio – TYPICAL.
    Also, Robbie, like Bill Maher, WANTS a recession, so as to make it more likely that Trump, the Republican candidate, loses in 2020.
    AND, he still thinks that Trump is worse than any of the Democratic candidates. That says A LOT!

    – Whole lot of lying going on by NYCmoron here.

    I blame it on Antifa super soldiers.

  168. lisab says:

    well since robbie thinks the stock market is so important

    he must be really happy with trump so far, the djia being up 25% since trump took office

  169. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 5, 2019 at 3:37 pm
    The guy has never had a negative thing to say about any Democratic candidate – ever. All the while reciting Democratic talking points on a daily basis.
    Democratic troll through and through, Mikey. Nothing more, nothing less.

    – This is so hilarious it’s sad, but it’s become par for the course for poor old Phil. Now a days, Phil believes that disagreeing with dear leader Trump means you’re a liberal. So sad. So laughable. So HHR.

    I guess Phil didn’t take my advice and have a good cry over the fact the country doesn’t look like it did in the hay day of his life.

  170. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    August 5, 2019 at 3:53 pm
    Has it been mentioned that the El Paso Walmart was in a Gun-Free Zone?
    Has Robbie sought to have those federal laws rescinded so that more innocent people can defend themselves?

    – Poor NYCmoron. As always, it’s “Must protect the Trump”, or “But muh Antifa”.

  171. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    August 5, 2019 at 4:34 pm
    Robbie,
    As a “conservative Republican”, do you believe in the 2nd Amendment?
    https://www.rollcall.com/news/whitehouse/trump-opts-call-gun-control-bill-dayton-el-paso-shootings
    Trump seems to.

    – The only thing in which Trump believes is tariffs and cheating on his wives.

    The only thing in which you used to believe was the Tea Party, but then Trump came along and exposed you as an intellectual fraud who now support tariffs as long as they’re patriotic ones proposed by Trump.

  172. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    August 5, 2019 at 6:23 pm
    well since robbie thinks the stock market is so important

    – You know who else thinks the stock market is important? Your hero Trump. He loved to tweet about it when it was reaching new highs. Now, crickets. Sad.

  173. Phil says:

    No doubt that noted fire arms authority and pillar of morality David Hogg will be featured prominently in any CNN townhall. Probably so since they can’t very well use Scott Israel who has been about as scarce as Michael Avenatti on that network since they’ve both become such a liability to the left’s agenda. Yeah, David will surely make it since he’s never missed an opportunity to mug in front of a camera. Can’t wait for David’s pearls of wisdom. Is he still surrounded by bodyguards?

  174. lisab says:

    You know who else thinks the stock market is important? Your hero Trump.
    ———————

    so you think he is doing a great job then!

    good to know 🙂

  175. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Peter Navarro made some good points regarding the current tariffs with China:

    “NAVARRO: False, Chris. What we’ve seen clearly is that China has strategically gamed the tariffs by slashing their prices and by devaluing their currency. Since the tariffs were put in place back in 2018, the Chinese yuan fell by almost 10 percent. So they have offset virtually all of these tariffs and the consumers are not seeing any price hikes in any significant way and it’s not showing up in the data. We have care inflation at 1.5 percent, well below the Fed target. So the answer to that is false. We could have a bigger question about whether tariffs in general might cause a rise in consumer prices, but not in this case. And you notice that people cheered when the president said get tough on China. I’m looking at Capitol Hill right there. It’s one of the few things we have a bipartisan consensus on, sir.
    WALLACE: But, Peter, the — the industries that make these goods say that because of the president’s tariffs, that the price of consumer goods goes up to customers. I want to put up a couple of statistics.
    The Consumer Technology Association says with this new round of tariffs, which are going to be overwhelmingly on consumer goods, not things that — like steel or whatever that — that would be parts of products created by American manufacturers, the price of laptops and tablets will rise $50 to $120. Smartphones will cost $70 more.
    The Tax Foundations as a typical family of four is paying $850 a year more already for the current Trump tariffs and will pay another $350 more for these new — this new round of tariffs.
    You can argue that the pain is worth it to straighten out our very bad trade relationship with China, but you listen to those statistics, it doesn’t seem like you can say that there’s no pain, sir.
    NAVARRO: Chris, if you and I were sitting here over a year ago when the tariffs were put in place, you’d be saying the exact same things, quoting the exact same people. These people who are putting out this information are the same multinational corporations that have shipped off our jobs to China, we’ve lost over 70,000 factories to China, over 5 million manufacturing jobs. I’m just telling you, we’re not seeing this in the data.
    China devalued their currency over the — over — since we put the tariffs in place by almost 10 percent. We’re talking about putting 10 percent tariffs on the remaining $300 billion of goods. We’re just getting back to where we were before China started manipulating their currency.”

  176. lisab says:

    it will be interesting to see what the fed does

    treasury vs. fed fight

  177. Phil says:

    Wow, Robbie forgot to take his meds today. The Democratic troll is really triggered. Truly epic….but entertaining.

  178. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Note the troll evades the question of whether he believes in the 2nd Amendment. That is an issue a conservative Republican would be readily willing to talk about.

  179. Hugh says:

    The fed will lower the interest rate and the market will go right back up. The power in China comes from their middle class willing to Put up with corruption and oppressive govt for new wealth. They lose that support and watch out. This is a high stakes game. If they can they will hold out for a dem because they know that can keep on ripping us off. However no one in their right mind can say our economy is hurting right now. We added 500k manufacturing jobs and they’ve lost millions. Anyone who believes they r growing at 6% are fools. I have experience dealing with the Chinese their word means nothing. Win now or slow death.

  180. Phil says:

    SD the troll evades ALL conservative positions and issues but he’s a Republican. Has to be. He says so. Lol

  181. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The reason troll is back is were approaching election season, and funding is available for his sort of activities.

  182. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    184. Excellent comments. And will add the civil unrest in Hong Kong has to be a major concern.

  183. Dylan says:

    Phil–what is your TX take o the announced retirements of numerous TX GOP House members? easy to recruit replacements that can win or is this a problem?

    I would say that the NRCC chair seems to be asleep at the when just like in 2018 but perhaps there is something benign at play.

  184. lisab says:

    robbie would be entertaining

    except that if trump loses

    which is a coinflip

    someone like robbie will be working for the fbi, irs, doj and their equivalents in every blue or purple state

    then it wont be funny

  185. Tina says:

    Maybe McCabe and comedy can do segments for the cn and n gun program on Wednesday

  186. lisab says:

    i get concerned when there seems to be at least two sets of laws in the usa

    being a bi-woman may not be enough anymore

    i may have to be a trans bi wowan to stay out of jail and keep my wealth

  187. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 5, 2019 at 6:39 pm
    Note the troll evades the question of whether he believes in the 2nd Amendment. That is an issue a conservative Republican would be readily willing to talk about.

    – 1. I support the 2nd amendment 100%.

    2. Cry more.

  188. Bitterlaw says:

    https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2019/08/03/patrick-buhler-terroristic-threats-temple-university-bucks-county-walmart/

    This hit close to home. My son will be a Senior at Temple. His girlfriend and many students from my town go there. I support the 2nd Amendment but it is scary that this mf-er had guns. Thank God the store clerk called the cops.

    The scumbag had trouble in high school because he was caught with lists naming the girls he wanted to rape and/or kill. Somebody dropped the ball watching him.

  189. Tina says:

    The Columbia Bugle ??
    @ColumbiaBugle
    ·
    44m
    Government: “Hello there! I know we haven’t secured the border and we’ve lied to you about the wars we send you off too, buuuuuuuut can you please just give us your guns and sorry but you can’t play video games, and if you complain about it online, well that’s a red flagggggg!”

  190. Phil says:

    Dylan, Hurd’s West Texas district is probably gone in the next cycle. It was going to be hard to hold in the long run anyway given the demographic trends which is probably why Hurd threw in the towel. It’s already 70% Hispanic and he won by less than a thousand votes last time.

    Pete Olson is retiring in his Galveston county suburban district but that will remain R so at worst it’s a D+1 gain in the Texas Congressional delegation. Any other R retirements would be in safe R districts and Ds have to hold the two suburban districts they picked up last cycle. Those are the two districts that Pelosi would lose if she green lighted impeachment.

  191. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 5, 2019 at 6:34 pm
    Peter Navarro made some good points regarding the current tariffs with China:

    – Pete Navarro is an economic idiot who is reviled by both conservative and liberal economists. He’s a joke who doesn’t understand what he’s doing. I guess you’re willing to look past the fact he was a big Bill Clinton supporter in 1996. By the way, his views were garbage then as well. Just because he’s part of Trump’s three ring circus doesn’t mean he knows his butt from a hole in the ground.

  192. Tina says:

    And trust professionals like comedy, Mulehead, the Bushes, and Obama,

    The Columbia Bugle ??
    @ColumbiaBugle
    ·
    35m
    Government: “But don’t worry! Just trust the plan! We promise we won’t abuse all these new laws like we have in the past! Trust the plan!”

  193. Tina says:

    I propose we just shut the damn border. No lectures from a commie who is willing to send his people here because his country is a sheot hole.

    The Hill
    @thehill
    · 5h
    JUST IN: Mexico’s president calls for US to revisit gun laws after El Paso shooting (link: http://hill.cm/19lizT7) hill.cm/19lizT7

  194. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 5, 2019 at 6:37 pm
    Wow, Robbie forgot to take his meds today. The Democratic troll is really triggered. Truly epic….but entertaining.

    – Strange. What I funny (or maybe it’s just plains sad) is watching a supposed lifelong conservative like you toss aside your long held conservative principles to support, almost unanimously, everything the moral blackhole conman from NYC.

    Trump’s a scumbag who doesn’t know what he’s doing, yet, like NYCmoron, you always find a way to excuse his worst moments and ideas.

  195. Tina says:

    Muh video games is the answer.

    Where is ripper gore?

  196. Phil says:

    No, the reason troll is back is because he’s been watching His buds on CNN nonstop since the shooting. Apparently that has triggered his Trump rage. As far as his accusing anyone of “crying” I only see one person doing that. He needs to look in the mirror.

  197. lisab says:

    soooooooooooo … cops are evil

    and trump is a nazi

    but …

    you want the only people with guns to be the cops and the government?

  198. Tina says:

    Looks like mslsd cannot determine that the Dayton shooter had ties to Antifa, devil worshipping, Bernie bro, and Pocahontas.

  199. Tina says:

    I guess the Mexican president is unaware of the surge in gun violence on his side of the border.

    The drug cartels control a lot of Mexico.

  200. lisab says:

    robbie is 100% 2nd amendment

    which is why he wants the dems to take over

    they will return the guns to an organized militia

  201. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 5, 2019 at 6:44 pm
    SD the troll evades ALL conservative positions and issues but he’s a Republican. Has to be. He says so. Lol

    – I guessing Phil’s advanced boomer age is the reason he has forgotten all of the times I have clearly and unequivocally stated my hold held conservative positions. Go back to the 2012 campaign in this forum when Jason fraud leveled this pathetic accusation at me because I had the audacity to state that Romney was running a crappy campaign and was likely to lose.

    Of course, maybe the problem is Phil no longer remembers what conservative positions actually are since he decided to slap on the red hat just go with whatever the dear leader says.

    But just to calm boomer Phil and Rasmussen advocate SDC, I am 100% pro-life, I support low tax rates across the board, I support low taxes on investments, I support orginalist judges, I support a large, strong, and well funded military, and healthcare coverage that relies on the market forces rather than government oversight. I also support leaders who practice the conservatism in their private life that they preach publicly.

  202. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    August 5, 2019 at 6:59 pm
    Maybe McCabe and comedy can do segments for the cn and n gun program on Wednesday

    – Remember Sunday when you said the manifesto was proven to be a fake? I do you lying conspiracy theorist.

  203. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    206. What about the Second Amendment?

  204. Tina says:

    How is porn lawyer doing?

    Is Mulehead ok?

    How is your Russian hoax?

  205. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 5, 2019 at 7:17 pm
    No, the reason troll is back is because he’s been watching His buds on CNN nonstop since the shooting. Apparently that has triggered his Trump rage. As far as his accusing anyone of “crying” I only see one person doing that. He needs to look in the mirror.

    – LOL. I watch CNN as much as you do which is to say never. The only time I see what’s happened on CNN is when one of their clips makes it Mediaite.

    But by all means Boomer Phil, just keep making it up as you go along. You’re becoming a great Hannity monologue talking point generator. I wish I had been around when the crowd was chanting “send her back” so I could see how you defended it.

  206. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    August 5, 2019 at 7:18 pm
    Looks like mslsd cannot determine that the Dayton shooter had ties to Antifa, devil worshipping, Bernie bro, and Pocahontas.

    – BUT MUH ANTIFA!

  207. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    August 5, 2019 at 7:21 pm
    robbie is 100% 2nd amendment
    which is why he wants the dems to take over
    they will return the guns to an organized militia

    – Local HHR idiot forgets there’s a constitution.

  208. lisab says:

    robbie is 100% pro-life

    so he works very hard to see the dems win the congress and white house … because he is 100% pro life

    ok ok maybe just as long as the dems keep the abortion clinics publically funded

    but he is personally pro-life

    just as long as the government is not

  209. Tina says:

    Dayton happened. Your collusion and obstruction did not,

    but carry on really fake Republican.

  210. lisab says:

    poor robbie …

  211. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 5, 2019 at 7:26 pm
    206. What about the Second Amendment?

    – Hey, dipsh!t. Read comment 192.

  212. Phil says:

    Just out of curiosity, Robbie, which Trump policies are you opposed to outside of tariffs (I’m on record opposing them BTW and have, unlike you, made that clear multiple times in the past. Wes tried to tell you that yesterday). Which of his following policies do you object to?

    Guns
    Deregulation of business
    Border security
    Conservative judges
    Opposition to Medicare for all.
    I ask because i’ve Never heard you specifically mention any of those. You avoid them like the plague. Well, I know border security since you think that’s just xenophobic but what about the others?

  213. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    August 5, 2019 at 7:30 pm
    poor robbie …

    – Never forget lisab accused me of being gay because she didn’t like my views about Trump and then spent weeks trying to claim she didn’t mean it as a slander when she clearly did. I think she also accused me of being anti-Semitic.

  214. Tina says:

    Never forget, I really fell for collusion and obstruction.

    Jebot

  215. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    196. “Pete Navarro is an economic idiot who is reviled by both conservative and liberal economists.”

    Dr. Peter Navarro received his MPA and Phd from Harvard University, and his BA from Tufts. He has taught economics at UCSD and UCI.

    He has challenged traditional economics on trade issues with China, and rightly so. After the 2008 economic collapse, and the export of much of the U.S. manufacturing base to places like China, standard economic theory of the Clinton/Bush administrations is now discredited.

  216. lisab says:

    i did not accuse you of being gay,

    i thought you were gay

    now i think you are an incel

  217. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 5, 2019 at 7:31 pm
    Just out of curiosity, Robbie, which Trump policies are you opposed to outside of tariffs (I’m on record opposing them BTW and have, unlike you, made that clear multiple times in the past. Wes tried to tell you that yesterday). Which of his following policies do you object to?

    – In terms of policy, tariffs, his coddling of North Korea, his coddling of Putin, his coddling of Erdogan, his view that the American military should be treated by the world as some sort of gun for hire.

    But see Phil, my objection to Trump has rarely centered on policy. It’s always been about his scummyness and the fact his awful behavior would do seriously electoral harm to key voting blocks in the Republican coalition like suburbian women.

    We could have gotten all of the conservative policy you and I like without the scummy porn star screwing Twitter nonsense. And had we gotten that, Republicans would still have the House, 55 or more Senate seats, and be cruising to re-election in 2020.

    Instead, Trump’s scummy behavior and erratic leadership is going to lead to a sizable 2020 loss.

  218. lisab says:

    i have no idea if you are anti-semitic

    not being jewish, it is not really my area

  219. Tina says:

    Yes. I think comedy and Mulehead and McCabe should do segments,

    They did really well handling the anthrax and pulse night club matters, Mulehead stood out with the uranium one

    Mulehead really knew the ins and outs of “his” report too.

    Hopefully, maybe Cuomo can personally drive him to cn an hq.

  220. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 5, 2019 at 7:35 pm
    196. “Pete Navarro is an economic idiot who is reviled by both conservative and liberal economists.”
    Dr. Peter Navarro received his MPA and Phd from Harvard University, and his BA from Tufts. He has taught economics at UCSD and UCI.

    – So. Having a college degree from Harvard matters? Does that mean Obama was great and new what he was doing? Nope.

  221. Phil says:

    Yeah, Robbie. How is that Russian collusion thing going? You were all over it for over a year. Something happen there? How about Stormy? That was your thing for about a good six months as I recall. Is the porn lawyer making any headway with that one? …..and that Trump Tower meeting with the Russian lawyer – the one you reported breathlessly on over here when your media friends broke the story. Anything new on that one?

  222. Tina says:

    Commie China cannot continue. their Yuan burn rate is greater than the influx of higher valued dollars needed to hold their position.

  223. lisab says:

    #226 again … poor robbie

  224. lisab says:

    Tina,

    their government has a trillion dollars in treasuries, so they can burn for a while

    their problem is their companies … they are losing billions

    how powerful are their billionaires compared to the communists these days? it is fair to say many of the lower level communists are taking bribes and may get angry if the businesses stop paying

  225. Tina says:

    Remember, senile Mulehead did not examine the scam at trump tower with Vida and fusion.

    Now, why did the obumbler administration allow Vida (an alleged Russian spy) into the country to participate at the trump tower set up?

    Why did Vida sit behind the then Russian ambassador Mcfail during a congressional hearing.

    I know he said it’s “behind his purview”

  226. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    226. It was totally laughable. Think people enjoy his raging posts for their entertainment value.

  227. Bitterlaw says:

    I thought lisab only said Robbie’s boyfriend was gay.

  228. Bitterlaw says:

    Even though a lunatic thought about shooting up Temple University, it is pretty safe. One student was murdered last year by a guy she met in a bar. Unfortunately, there were at least 2 suicides.

  229. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    So the president of Mexico demands the U.S. enact gun control laws, just like Mexico has. Lets compare the murder rate in San Diego versus Tijuana, Mexico.

    The murder rate in Tijuana is 180 per 100,000; in San Diego 34 per 100,000. There were 2506 homicides in Tijuana in 2018; and 86 in San Diego in 2018. Chicago had only 530 homicides in 2018. We don’t need a lecture from the Mexican president regarding gun control.

  230. lisab says:

    i don’t think robbie could get a boyfriend

    he is pmsing every day

  231. NYCmike says:

    “– In terms of policy, tariffs, his coddling of North Korea, his coddling of Putin, his coddling of Erdogan,….”

    -Trump hasn’t gone to war with these guys…….which means he is “coddling” them.

    No mention by Robbieof how these same people have been around for years, sometimes decades before Trump got elected, and that time included 2 Bush’s.

    No mention, either, of how we stopped the sale of F-35’s to Turkey due to their alliance with Putin/Russia and their use of anti-aircraft systems made by Russia.

    No mention of arms sales to Ukraine and Poland which Russia was against.

    North Korea is whole different story. To blame Trump for trying a new approach is totally ridiculous, considering the decades long situation he was confronted with.

  232. Phil says:

    234

    Thanks for researching that, SD. You always seem to provide good information. Besides the fact that nobody in the US elected the president of Mexico to make US policy, those numbers further infuriate me regarding his comments.

  233. Tina says:

    Maybe the president of ?Mexico can do a better job securing his side of the border.
    .

  234. lisab says:

    so i live in a luxury apartment building right now

    it is really nice and safe and everything, which is nice because my hubby is running all over the state these days

    but … it has a lot of older people in it … women with little dogs and half of them have walkers or carriages as they move around, so they are slow.

    until … you press the elevator button … old people with walkers can move faster than usain bolt when you press the elevator button …

    and then you have to talk to them and their little dog too 🙁

  235. lisab says:

    and of course they always seem to get on the elevator with me just when i get back from costco … with the 6 liters of bourbon and rum

  236. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 5, 2019 at 7:39 pm
    Yeah, Robbie. How is that Russian collusion thing going?

    – Bless your heart, Boomer Phil.

    As I wrote many, many times in this forum I didn’t believe Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia. I did write that it was clear Trump wanted help, but simply saying so didn’t mean they did anything. Most of the time his campaign couldn’t coordinate with itself.

    As for obstruction, I wrote I thought it was clear Trump sought to interfere with the investigation into himself and his campaign, but I was never sure it rose to the legal definition of obstruction because that required criminal intent and I doubt your MAGA god even knew that was a crime.

    Nice try, Phil.

  237. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    August 5, 2019 at 7:57 pm
    i don’t think robbie could get a boyfriend
    he is pmsing every day

    – I heard you stopped hooking when even offering your services for free didn’t get you and takers.

    Two can play your game, you nasty gutter snipe.

  238. Tina says:

    Maybe we should threaten legal action against Mexico for sending us their illegals..

    Or send them a bill.

  239. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    235. “i don’t think robbie could get a boyfriend”

    lisab, there is no proof whatsoever that Robbie is gay. Frankly given his abrasive personality, it is hard to imagine he has any normal sort of social relationships at all. Its why I think he is a troll; normal people don’t act like that. Even Proud Obamacon showed a human side when we chatted with him once.

  240. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 5, 2019 at 7:47 pm
    226. It was totally laughable. Think people enjoy his raging posts for their entertainment value.

    1. Read post 241.

    2. What’s laughable were your repetitive posts that Rasmussen was a credible poll and not a hunk of garbage.

    In 2018, their final generic ballot average had Republicans +1. How’d that work out?

  241. Tina says:

    Lou Dobbs: Perhaps the Department of Justice should sue the Mexican government. We might consider that for the loss of American lives as well. 67 Americans have been murdered in Mexico over the past year. The Department of Justice should also sue for loss of human resources, American potential, collect on the cost of illegal immigration, drug smuggling that results in tens of thousands of drug overdoses, the devastation of so many young lives. Mexico and Lopes Obrador may want to rethink their grand idea.

  242. Tina says:

    And tax the sheot on their remittances.

  243. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 5, 2019 at 8:12 pm
    235. “i don’t think robbie could get a boyfriend”
    lisab, there is no proof whatsoever that Robbie is gay. Frankly given his abrasive personality, it is hard to imagine he has any normal sort of social relationships at all

    – I’m only abrasive to Trump loving sycophants in this forum who threw away whatever conservative principles they claimed to have in order to defend and support Trump day in and day out.

  244. lisab says:

    sdc,

    yes i agree … i think he is an incel

    incel: someone who is involuntarily celibate

  245. lisab says:

    jason,

    robbie called me a gutter snipe

    i get all the points for 2019 🙂

  246. Tina says:

    Lisab, commie China (bush 41 really enabled them btw) need dollars. They are running out quickly as they continue to hemorrhage.

  247. Robbie says:

    Ben White
    @morningmoneyben

    Cumberland’s David Kotok tells me: “Peter Navarro is responsible for a looming national catastrophe.”

    – This isn’t going to make SDC happy. I mean Navarro got a degree from Harvard so he has to be smart, right?

  248. lisab says:

    sdc,

    but i think you can see what initially threw me off

    gutter snipe … my fair lady … show tunes …

  249. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    250. Then again this could be something akin to scream therapy for Robbie. In his regular life he might be a perfectly normal guy.

  250. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    August 5, 2019 at 8:18 pm
    jason,
    robbie called me a gutter snipe

    – There are plenty of other things I’d like to call you, but the words are banned here.

  251. Bitterlaw says:

    I believe Robbie is a Republican. He is just horrified that Trump could be President. I am, too. Of the 17 who ran in the GOP primaries, Trump as my 417th choice. However, I accept that the alternative, President Hillary, was worse.

  252. Tina says:

    And we only know what the commie Chinese say.

    They lost 6 million jobs.

    It is probably double.

  253. lisab says:

    Tina,

    yes they are bleeding

    but i think they figure they can run out the clock until they get biden in

    his son would be great in china

  254. Tina says:

    Anybody notice that when commie China gets panda mad, mentally ill pops off a few firecrackers?

  255. Robbie says:

    Scott Lincicome
    @scottlincicome

    The guy who lost money selling steaks, vodka, gambling & football may soon be piloting a global currency war I’m sure it’ll be fine.

    – But Navarro went to Harvard.

  256. lisab says:

    anyone can sign up to be a republican

    that is how trump is a republican

    robbie is just the kind of republican that wants the dems to run the government

  257. Phil says:

    Nice try?

    You mean right on don’t you, troll?

    You don’t remember how excited you were when you heard about the “collusion meeting” in Trump Tower and breathlessly posted about it? We do. Man, you were absolutely giddy and particularly snarky with that one. Same with Stormy crap. The porn lawyer was going to get him! You stayed on that one for months. We well remember that as well so don’t even try to cover your tracks on any of that.

  258. Tina says:

    Yes let’s send the cartel government a demand letter for their illegals.

    That would be great if Bolton personally provides the letter to the socialist gubment.

  259. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    August 5, 2019 at 8:21 pm
    I believe Robbie is a Republican. He is just horrified that Trump could be President. I am, too. Of the 17 who ran in the GOP primaries, Trump as my 417th choice. However, I accept that the alternative, President Hillary, was worse.

    – That was the choice in 2016. Now, the choice is Trump or some other Republican. I’d run, not walk, to support Pence, Haley, Romney, and many others in 2020.

    If we renominate Trump, he’ll very likely lose and bring down a lot of other candidates who otherwise would have won were it not for him.

  260. lisab says:

    – There are plenty of other things I’d like to call you, but the words are banned here.
    ———————-

    yeah … robbie is straight /s

  261. Tina says:

    It’s beyond my purview to investigate why Vida was at Trump Tower.

    I don’t know who fusion is

    -Fuhrer Mulehead

  262. Tina says:

    I do know what brandy is. I drink my fair share.

    Btw, I was in Vietnam and I am not John Kerry.

    -Fuhrer Mulehead

  263. lisab says:

    tina,

    have you considered that mueller may just be over the hill? and incompetent?

  264. Tina says:

    I do not know how to open a car door.

    I was Fib Director. I got sued and lost a big anthrax suit.

    I also gave away uranium to Russians, when they were nice guys,

    Who am I?

  265. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 5, 2019 at 8:24 pm
    Nice try?
    You mean right on don’t you, troll?
    You don’t remember how excited you were when you heard about the “collusion meeting” in Trump Tower and breathlessly posted about it?

    – Oh, I was excited, but it caught Trump in yet another lie. Remember, he said the meeting was about adoption. Donnie Jr. had emails saying he was excited to get dirt from the Russians.

    The meeting confirmed once again what I knew and many of you refused to acknowledge. Trump was a lying scumbag who lies and lies and lies even when the truth would be good for him.

    And just to be clear, I want Trump gone. I want him to quit tomorrow so Pence can take over and we can rid ourselves of this awful period. He’s an idiot and you got to bat for him every time.

  266. Tina says:

    Lisab, I said that since Day 1.

    He is also a dirty cop.

    Pretty evident when Ratcliffe destroyed him.

    Remember, the Maine Chicklet said he was too hard on Mulehead. I guess the Maine Chicklet likes fake legal standards and corruption in gubment.

  267. Phil says:

    Yeah, Robbie would “run, not walk to support Pence”

    If you believe that I have some swampland to sell you. Republican my ass. Pence is opposed to open borders. Robbie couldn’t have that. Racist.

    Republican my ass. LOL

    Good one, bitter.

  268. Tina says:

    I also said that Vida/trump tower plant was a hoax too.

    Why would the obumbler let a Russian spy in on a special visa?

    Who was she screwing around with?

  269. lisab says:

    brandy is nice …

    when i was in ny we could get laird’s applejack brandy

    arguably my favourite drink

  270. Tina says:

    Yes, gaffes son and Gaffe will continue to make out well with Ukraine and China, if he wins,

  271. Tina says:

    Why would Mulehead not even know who Mifsud is?

    If Mifsud was a Russian spy (per Coemdy), why was he in the country in early 2017 at the state department?

  272. lisab says:

    Tina,

    mueller is considered pretty evil in boston because he tried to keep those innocent men in prison for life even when he knew they were innocent

    but i think now he is just an old man trying to go out with some respect

    he failed in that … the dems hate him now

    but i think that was his intent

  273. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    257. Sorry Bitter, Republicans do not spend all their time quoting Democratic talking points. He is a troll.

  274. lisab says:

    that is, i think mueller is a few cards short of a full deck

    old age has taken its toll

  275. Phil says:

    Just sorry Jason wasn’t around to watch Robbie’s all day Trump tantrum. Missing out on some great fun today.

    Well, it’s been swell guys. Got to go. All the entertainment I can take for one day.

  276. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m serious, Phil. Once we let Trump call himself a Republican after supporting Reid, Schumer, and Hillary for years, the bar was lowered.

  277. Tina says:

    Mueller should never have taken the job, given his state, Lisab.

    I think republicans need to interview Redactstein,

    This is serious. I do not know what is worse, a sick man taking a job, a supposedly bright man offering said position to a sick man,

  278. lisab says:

    Republicans do not spend all their time quting Democratic talking points. He is a troll.
    ————————————-

    hillary clinton could sign up as a republican tomorrow … there is no litmus test … and she could immediately troll the democratic public line

    so you see sdc … he can be a republican and a dem troll

    both can be true 🙂

  279. lisab says:

    Just sorry Jason wasn’t around to watch Robbie’s all day Trump tantrum. Missing out on some great fun today.

    Well, it’s been swell guys. Got to go. All the entertainment I can take for one day.
    ——————————/

    just so long as we all remember robbie called me a gutter snipe and i get all the ponts 🙂

  280. Wes says:

    One of our regular posters is a Schumer constituent who claims to be a conservative but has never said a single critical word about Schumer while rarely if ever saying anything good about McConnell.

  281. lisab says:

    if you ever watch the history channel

    sometimes they show things like

    iwo jima, guadalcanal, okinowa etc.

    gutter snipe was a word those marines used a lot … of course they bleeped it out for tv

  282. lisab says:

    i was a schumer constituent …

    and never said anything against him

    he was kind of absent … sort of like markey in massachusetts

    he kind of doesn’t exist in ny … more national than actually doing something for ny

  283. Tina says:

    Guttersnipe is also the name of one of Winston Churchill’s famous speeches.

    Hitler the bloodthirsty guttersnipe, 1941.

  284. lisab says:

    now ted kennedy otoh

    and tip oneill

    were omni present in massachusetts

    if you needed something, you could actually call their office and someone would answer

  285. Tina says:

    My reps are:

    Piglosi

    Eric holder 2.0.

    Frankenstein

  286. lisab says:

    did robbie leave?

    i will feel awfully bad if tomorrow i see in the paper that a man in pogo loco ran out into the street naked witn an ar-15 yelling

    gutttttttttttterrrrrrr-snippppppppppppppe!!!!!!!!!!!

    well … i will laugh first

    but then i will feel bad

  287. NYCmike says:

    “One of our regular posters is a Schumer constituent who claims to be a conservative but has never said a single critical word about Schumer while rarely if ever saying anything good about McConnell.”

    🙂

  288. NYCmike says:

    A statement like the one Wes just made is more evidence that any state licensing law does nothing to increase competence. It is only for revenue purposes and/or to stifle competition.

  289. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    291. To have Pelosi as your congress person you must live in San Francisco.

  290. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Yes, no Jason, or mnw telling us not to feed the troll. I was going to do so, but then decided to join in the fun. The level of sputtering rage the troll has is amazing.

  291. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Remember elisab, you not just a plain gutter snipe, your a NASTY gutter snipe. There is a difference.

    Actually San Diego neighborhoods & parks are full of gutter snipe, but it is not politically correct to call them that.

  292. lisab says:

    Girl, 5, fined £150 for lemonade stand

  293. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – NYC has a complex relationship with Schumer. He condemned Rubio for talking with Schumer about immigration. He excused Trump for donating to Schumer’s campaigns

  294. Tina says:

    Don’t worry i am sure rottire will send in reinforcements,

    Don’t be surprised if the Clinton groupie appears.

  295. Tina says:

    Yes, Sdc I live in sf.

    I also have a home outside of Reno.

  296. Tina says:

    I may be one of the last conservatives in Sf.

    Rs do not exist. Most are ds anyway, kind of like the jebots.

  297. VictrC says:

    Tina

    I lived in SF on Lombard right at the bottom of the crooked street (my apt was where everyone gathers). In 2010 I had a big sign in my window that said Fire Pelosi and on election night kept a 5 foot by 5 foot running tab in my window for all the tourists to see as they took pics!!!! That was fun.

    LisaB – Hey, Robbie even called me a name today. Something to do with Sewers….

    The irony is that I think 90% of this board would be ecstatic with Pence, Haley or some other good Conservative as President (Not Romney, he’s proven himself to be what he always was, a Dem Lite whose more interested in self-promotion). But the fact of the matter is that isn’t going to happen. Trump is the horse we have to ride, and he’s absolutely better than any Dem out there….by FAR. Just because of judges and taxes alone.

  298. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    302. A very close friend of mine moved to San Francisco to take a job with a tech firm. He tends to be conservative, but keeps quiet about it. There are a lot of people like that — but they tend to be lukewarm about Trump. Many will hold their nose and vote for him because of his economic policies, but they would never openly support him.

  299. Tina says:

    Victrc, yes, I remember you mentioning that story awhile back.

    Thanks for sharing it again.

  300. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Dayton gunman Connor Betts shot and critically injured his best friend when he killed nine victims including his own sister, Megan, 22.
    DailyMail.com has exclusively learned that Charles ‘Chace’ Beard, 24, was the man who was in the car with Betts and Megan when they drove to the Oregon District where Betts carried out the second mass shooting of the weekend.
    And Beard was among the first victims to be shot by 24-year-old Betts in his so-far motiveless massacre conducted in the early hours of Sunday morning.
    He and Megan Betts appear to have been standing outside Ned Peppers Bar when Betts opened fire.”

    Appears to be a total loon. Wonder if narcotics use was a factor.

  301. NYCmike says:

    Trump donated to Schumer.

    Trump has governed more conservatively, for the most part, than “conservative Republicans” like George HW Bush and George W Bush.

    Both can be true.

    As for Rubio, he wasn’t “talking” with Schumer, Rubio was attempting to write legislation with that weasel! YUGE DIFFERENCE!

  302. Tina says:

    Jebots force ny times to change their headline about trump.

  303. lisab says:

    VictrC,

    i hope he did not call you a

    rapscallion

    or a

    scalawag

  304. Tina says:

    CNN Breaking News
    @cnnbrk
    · 1h
    A Twitter account that appears to belong to the Dayton gunman re-tweeted extreme left-wing posts as well as tweets supporting violent protest group Antifa (link: https://cnn.it/2GOP2d0) cnn.it/2GOP2d0

  305. janz says:

    A positive story that probably won’t be picked up by any MSM site:

    Republican activist picked up 12 tons of trash in Baltimore, working from 8am to 8pm.

  306. janz says:

    A positive story that probably won’t be picked up by any MSM site:

    Republican activist picked up 12 tons of trash in Baltimore, working from 8am to 8pm.

  307. Latest Morning Consult poll of early primary voters:

    Biden 33%
    Sanders 19%
    Warren 15%
    Harris 9%
    Buttigieg 6%
    Booker 3%
    Beto 3%
    Yang 2%

  308. Wes says:

    To be fair, Bitter, Mikey has done everything in his power to help Schumer become Majority Leader. Christine O’Donnell, Dick the Misogynist Bastard Mourdock, Eric Hovde, Matt Bevin, and Pat Morrissey—all disastrous candidates for Senate with only one not costing Republicans a Senate seat—were just some of his preferred candidates for Senate.

    Since Mikey has never expressed any dissatisfaction with what Schumer does in Washington (though McConnell frequently elicits Mikey’s verbal barbs), one can only speculate on why Mikey invariably supports the Senate primary candidate Schumer would also like to see Republicans nominate.

  309. Bitterlaw says:

    The Mayor of Philadelphia blames Trump for the shootings in El Paso and Dayton. However, he never blames himself for the shootings in Philadelphia.

  310. Tina says:

    Ny times changes headlines after the leftists complain about the headline:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1158584283742605313

  311. Tina says:

    I did not realize that the drats were fundraising over the shootings.

    Disgusting.