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Biden Leads Trump By 10% in CO, 6% in NV

It has been a busy week for me so I have missed a few polls, so I will take the time I have and focus on some General Election polling from earlier in the week. We’ll start with Emerson College in Colorado where Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders and Petey Buttigieg all have a double-digit lead over Donald Trump.

PRESIDENT – COLORADO (Emerson)
Joe Biden (D) 55%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 45%

Elizabeth Warren (D) 53%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 46%

Bernie Sanders (D) 55%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 45%

Kamala Harris (D) 51%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 48%

Pete Buttigieg (D) 55%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 45%

If John Hickenlooper were smart enough to abandon his race for President and drop down to the US Senate race, he could give Democrats an easy pickup opportunity.

US SENATE – COLORADO (Emerson)
John Hickenlooper (D) 53%
Cory Gardner (R-inc) 40%

This poll was done August 11-13 among 1013 registered voters. Meanwhile in Nevada, Gravis Marketing shows Trump does better against the top five Democrats than he does in Colorado.

PRESIDENT – NEVADA (Gravis)
Joe Biden (D) 49%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 43%

Bernie Sanders (D) 47%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 44%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 45%
Kamala Harris (D) 45%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 47%
Elizabeth Warren (D) 46%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 46%
Pete Buttigieg (D) 42%

This poll was done August 14-16 among 926 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 9:20 pm
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138 Responses to “Biden Leads Trump By 10% in CO, 6% in NV”

  1. Big Joe says:

    The Avuncular Joe Biden’s biggest differentiating factor has been electability. In Colorado anyway, this poll suggests others have possibly caught up.

    Big Joe

  2. VictrC says:

    Third!!!

  3. VictrC says:

    Hickenlooper is not going to be the nominee, so it will be interesting to see if he does make the run at Senate.

    Don’t count on Gardner losing by that much, even in Hick jumps in. I think no matter what it will be a close race.

  4. Wes says:

    If Hick jumps in Gardner will lose. If not Gardner has a chance though Trump May doom him by running well behind the Dem nominee.

  5. Proud Obamacon says:

    Yup BJ, your boy Biden is toast. Other Dems are just as electable and in reality, more electable!!

    As for Hick, he can retire. We have a good bench in CO. Don’t need Hick. Hick and Biden go fishing LOL

    #BLUE.WAVE.COMIN’

  6. Cash Cow TM says:

    Bitter,

    Special election in PA for 85th district of PA House…

    The D candidate Jennifer Rager Kay was a former student of mine. She is a medical doctor.

    She lost, getting about 1/3 of the votes.
    Nicd person, but too liberal for a conservative district.

    She also lost a state senate race during 2018…

  7. Bitterlaw says:

    Cash Cow was a teacher? Who knew?

  8. lisab says:

    Elizabeth Warren Promises To Cure Smallpox

  9. lisab says:

    dnc is falling apart in their fundraising

    not sure why that is, but they are not getting money

    donations going to the presidential candidates perhaps?

  10. VictrC says:

    WOW how about those Mets.. Win again in extra innings after being down.

    Watch out for them!!

    Alonso
    Conforto
    Davis
    McNeil

    degrom has a 1.00 ERA his last 7 starts
    Syndergaard 2.09 ERA last 7 starts
    even Wheeler and Matz are pitching well.

    Going to be an interesting end to the season with the Nats, Phils, Mets, Cards, Cubs, Brewers and even AZ and SF on the periphery all fighting for two WC spots.

  11. Bitterlaw says:

    Vic – I hate the Mets but they turned it around. Harper is heating up for the Phillies but their pitching sucks except for Nola. How inconsistent are the Phillies? They just swept the Cubs in 3 games at home and the Red Sox in 2 games at Fenway. In between, they went 1-2 against the Padres.

  12. VictrC says:

    Bitter

    Phils have come on hard, and Harper is a big reason. I fear them grabbing a wild card the most as they have the easiest schedule of all the contenders. They might be able to hit themselves into the post season.

    Nats are also a solid squad, the Cubs hand around, the Cards are playing well and you can’t count out the Brewers, so its really going to be a fun race

    The good thing is they all play each other. Mets – Phils Mets – Nats, Mets – Cubs Cubs – Phils Cubs – Nats Nats – Phils

    crazy

  13. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    2. “In Colorado anyway, this poll suggests others have possibly caught up.”

    But the Nevada poll, and many other polls, indicate Biden has a clear lead over Trump. The other Democratic candidates are in close races with Trump, and in many polls Trump is ahead.

    At this point, I still believe that in a Biden vs. Trump race, Biden would be favored; but Trump has a good chance of winning against any other Democratic candidate. And Trump will defeat the candidates advocating socialism.

  14. VictC says:

    SDC

    interestingly I think if the election were held today Trump would lose the popular vote by a lot, but win the EC by a 270-268 margin. I think he loses MI and PA, but holds on to WI. Call it a hunch, but I think he can still carry WI.

    I think if its anyone else, he wins handily. Sanders? No way he wins PA, MI, etc and might lose some states.

    Warren. Please, she is no way carrying PA, WI, MI, etc

    Buttageig. Worse

    Harris? She wins 14 states only

  15. John says:

    A betting site called “Lines” is throwing out ‘what to look for’ and some predictions…

    The economy will be everything come 2020:

    Horrible/recession economy look for a Warren/Buttigieg Democratic ticket to beat Trump

    Just a ‘down’ economy look for Trump to squeak by Biden or Sanders

    Anything better than a ‘down’ economy Trump wins

    Warren/Buttigieg?

  16. Bitterlaw says:

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-created-500000-fewer-jobs-since-2018-than-previously-reported-new-figures-show-2019-08-21

    I am not an economist.or financial expert. I will defer to those with knowledge in those areas. This seems to be a troubling report IF true. Maybe it is proof that the economy is not as strong as believed OR it is part of a MSM plan to undercut Trump’s strongest argument for re-election. Please share your insight.

  17. Wes says:

    We can kiss Cory Gardner goodbye, I guess, since Hickenlooper is running against him.

    Too bad.

  18. DW says:

    The Mets still don’t have a solid closer. Lugo has been OK, otherwise, its a roll of the dice.

    The Mets’ schedule is brutal coming up.

    After one more game with Cleveland, they have:
    Atlanta (H) for three games
    Chicago (H) for three games
    Philly (A) for three games
    Gnats (A) for three games
    Philly (H) for three games
    Arizona (H) for four games
    L.A. (H) for three games

    Then the schedule gets a bit easier:

    Colorado (A) for three games
    Cincy (A) for three games
    Miami (H) for four games

    Then season closes with 3 games at home against Atlanta.

    Hard to say how its going to turn out.

  19. Phil says:

    Add Colorado to Va as states we no longer have a real shot at sending a Republican United States Senator to Washington. You can forget Nevada as well

  20. Robbie says:

    CNBC
    @CNBC

    Manufacturing sector contracts for the first time in nearly a decade, according to IHS Markit

    – I was assured tariffs were patriotic and trade wars were good and easy to win.

    Of all the self-inflicted wounds Trump has done to himself, his trade war will be the one that costs him re-election because it has torpedoed the one good thing he had going for him: the economy.

  21. Wes says:

    That’s impossible, Robbie. Chicon told me Trump’s tariff threats would have no negative effect on the economy because it’s not 1930.

  22. Robbie says:

    I want to see a Republican win in 2020. Haley, Romney, Rubio, Kasich, and a few others like Christie or Cotton could probably win as well. I’m less sure about Pence because he’s so identified with Trump now, but I think he would have, at worst, a 50/50 shot at winning.

    The same can’t be said about Trump. He’s basically never polled above 44% in any polling average even with a good economy. And now that parts of the economy seem to be slowing, it’s hard to see how he goes from 44% to 49%. Most importantly, the last month has shown that Trump fatigue is real.

  23. Wes says:

    Trump is averaging 44% in AZ’s current round of polling.

    Since AZ became a state in 1912, no Republican has won the White House without carrying it. Trump is a lock to hold those Midwestern states and win re-election though. I read it here on HHR.

    Here’s a thought:

    Maybe instead of engaging in asinine trade wars and actively trying to piss off everyone in the country with his puerile tweets, Trump should start trying to raise his favorable ratings and start appealing to those suburban who are massacring the GOP because of detestation of him.

    He’s not Harry Truman though, and the Dems aren’t going to be kind enough to give him a Tom Dewey as an opponent.

  24. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    August 22, 2019 at 10:19 am
    That’s impossible, Robbie. Chicon told me Trump’s tariff threats would have no negative effect on the economy because it’s not 1930.

    – Chicon also spent much of the last two years believing the DNC had Seth Rich murdered.

  25. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    August 22, 2019
    Maybe instead of engaging in asinine trade wars and actively trying to piss off everyone in the country with his puerile tweets, Trump should start trying to raise his favorable ratings and start appealing to those suburban who are massacring the GOP because of detestation of him.

    – This is sound advice and advice Trump’s been given constantly since day 1, but there’s zero evidence he’ll ever take it. And at this point, you’d have to wonder if anyone would believe his change of heart given his behavior since he rode down the escalator.

    If the last month is any indication, Trump has decided to turn up the crazy to 11. That seems to be his go-to method when he feel boxed-in. Clearly, he feels boxed-in by the downturn in some portions of the economy, the decline in the stock market, and his continued low polling both in approval and against 2020 Democrats.

    We’ll see how things look in October, but this moment seems a bit different for Trump than other moments when he acted more wacky than usuual.

  26. Wes says:

    I know inevitably Trump is going to get comparisons on here to Clinton and Obama because of their first midterms, but that’s a superficial comparison at best.

    By this time in their first terms, Clinton and Obama were on the upswing and became clear front runners early in their reelection years. Trump is now where he was before the midterm, and his strategy of offering a choice rather than a referendum not only reveals his weak position for reelection but also works only if most people don’t decide to tune him out and vote for his opponent just to get rid of him.

    His best strategy is to quit making distractions with his trade wars and attempts to buy an island he has no chance of acquiring while going into the areas where he’s struggling to attract voters most—the all-critical suburbs—and detail how he will keep people working.

    Unless he does that, the anti-GOP suburban revolt will continue, and no one will care if the Dems nominate Karl Marx to take him on—just as no one cared how radical Obama was in 2008 because GWB was the focal point of Americans’ire.

  27. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Have Robbie and Wes formed an alliance? Both seem to be hoping for an “I told you so” moment.
    The “flash” manufacturing index is 49.9, which is .1 from showing growth and a shade below last month’s 50.6 marker for the index.
    If you guys would do your homework, most of the decline has been attributed to Boeing’s problems.

    Wes, sometimes you surprise me with your nonsense.You are light years more informed than Robbie. Robbie has the moniker “Half-Truth” for a reason.

  28. Robbie says:

    Sheeple, Jr. says:
    August 22, 2019 at 10:45 am
    Have Robbie and Wes formed an alliance? Both seem to be hoping for an “I told you so” moment.

    – I think you were saying the same things about me in September 2017 when I suggested Republicans were in line to lose as many as 40 House seats. By the way, how many House seats did Republicans lose in November 2018?

    But by all means, bathe yourself in the warm caress of Rasmussen polls and killer monologues by Sean Hannity.

  29. Wes says:

    Robbie isn’t the first person to post something negative about the economy, Sheep. Bitterlaw—who is voting for Trump next year—already posted a link about the economic slowdown yesterday. I’m voting for Trump next year, but I’m not going to wear rose-colored glasses and say everything is fine when clearly it’s not.

    I gave Trump two years to get his act together and build up his standing with the American people. He couldn’t even wait a whole day after the midterms before underscoring exactly why he’s one of the least popular Presidents of the last 50 years. Every day he doubles down more on the things people don’t like about him.

    I saw people like you living in an alternate reality 12 years ago, pretending an increasingly unpopular President would somehow not lead his party to electoral defeat. I’m not even worried about it anymore. I’m resigned to it because Trump has never shed his reality star persona and become presidential in office. He’s done in just over 14 months, and I know all his supporters from Tina on down are going to blame the shadowy “GOPe” rather than the man himself for the defeat he’s bringing on himself.

  30. Robbie says:

    Rich Lowry
    @RichLowry

    It’s not Trump Derangement Syndrome that endangers Trump but Trump Fatigue

    – I should have copyrighted the phrase “Trump fatigue” last August when I said it would become an issue for Trump by mid 2019.

  31. Phil says:

    Trump lives in his rally bubble.

  32. NYCmike says:

    It would be interesting to see when else there were a decline in the manufacturing index to compare it to this decline…….has the only reason, historically, been tariffs?

    Or were the other times when a contraction occurred, there were no tariffs in affect??

  33. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    August 22, 2019 at 11:05 am
    I’m resigned to it because Trump has never shed his reality star persona and become presidential in office. He’s done in just over 14 months, and I know all his supporters from Tina on down are going to blame the shadowy “GOPe” rather than the man himself for the defeat he’s bringing on himself.

    – Surprisingly, I’m optimistic about the day after 2020. The loss is going to suck at all levels, but, until I see otherwise, I think the results will be totally about the public’s disgust with Trump. Trump fatigue (the tweets, the idiotic comments, the erratic behavior) is real.

    I think the loss, ultimately, will serve a good purpose. It’s going to discredit the nativist ethnonationalist populism that currently holds the party captive. Hopefully, the party can get back to where it was in November 2014 when the Senate Tea Party candidates had been vanquished in the primaries and Republicans achieved their largest House majority since 1928.

    If Trump is defeated by a margin similar to Romney’s 2012 defeat, it’s hard for me to see how the people like Tucker “white power” Carlson, Sean Trumpity, Rush Limbaugh, and the rest will still control the direction of the base. It’s no secret Murdoch’s sons want to move away from the harsh rhetoric that dominates FoxNews and I suspect they’ll use Trump’s likely loss to revamp, at least, the tone of their network.

  34. NYCmike says:

    “– Surprisingly, I’m optimistic about the day after 2020.”

    -BUT, he doesn’t want the Democratic candidate to win………

  35. janz says:

    Trump’s reelection depends more on the state of the economy and how much benefit people see in their own lives from Trump’s presidency, than on how popular he is in polling.

    Even in this blog’s small sampling of posters, who don’t like his personality and day-to-day tweets/conduct, there are admissions of voting for Trump in 2020. While such support is far from binding, it will only change if someone better floats on the scene, or if Trump’s effectiveness and policy choices crashes and burns. The continuation of his verbal crustiest, though, will in all likelihood never change.

  36. janz says:

    I will add that the radical proposals put forth by opposing candidates, alone, provide a lot of cover for Trump’s polarizing behavior.

    Even Trump’s most recent idea of being interested in purchasing Greenland – met with overwhelming derision – has some articles and people now saying it’s not such a bad idea. Tom Cotton is one such person seeing the merits in acquiring this Arctic island

  37. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag, who has the morals of a floating turd, wants a socialist to win in 2020 so he can be optimistic?

    LOL

    And of course, he knows Trump has 90% R support and will be the nominee for 2020, so talking about other candidates is the same old BS like “brokered convention” and “convention revolt” and the rest of his cuckoo theories.

    Trump is the only option for 2020, and Amoral Scumbag knows it. So he can have Trump or he can have a socialist. There are no other options.

    If we get Trump, we might get some more SCOTUS seats and ensure a conservative majority for another generation. Even if you hate Trump, any conservative would see the benefit in that. We will also probably avoid open borders for a least awhile, we will avoid spending trillions down the climate change rathole, and we will put off the nanny state for at least another 4 years.

    But Amoral Scumbag wants a socialist. Saying you would prefer another R is BS, because there is not other R. And if there was, you can be sure Amoral Scumbag would still vote for the socialist. End of story.

  38. Phil says:

    Yep. Nothing says optimism like President Elizabeth Warren.

  39. jason says:

    Bitter, did you see this in the article?

    “This makes some sense, as the 223,000 average monthly increase in 2018 seemed too good to be true in light of how tight the labor market has become and how much trouble firms are said to be having finding qualified workers,” said chief economist Stephen Stanley of Amherst Pierpont Securities.”

    So the reduction in jobs has less to do with a bad economy, and more to do with a good one, if that makes any sense.

    In other words the jobs were there, they just couldn’t all be filled.

  40. jason says:

    And before Amoral Scumbag brings up again about how I only oppose Trump on trade, which is a lie, let me say again what I support him on and what I don’t

    Support:
    Judicial appointments
    Tax cuts
    Energy independence
    Refusal to be sucked into climate change alarmism
    Border security
    Peace initiative with North Korea
    Rebuilding military
    Deregulation
    War against the partisan, corrupt, dishonest MSM

    Don’t support:
    Physical wall
    Trade policy based on tariffs
    Protectionist rhetoric
    Rhetoric against NATO and allies
    Deficit spending
    Boondoggle pork ridden infrastructure projects
    Gratuitous attacks on fellow Rs

  41. janz says:

    When you hate someone as much as Robbie hates Trump you’ll willing to ignore reality and cut off your nose to spite your face. The choices in 2020, much like 2016, are between whose policies are better for the country, and not who has the best presidential demeanor.

  42. lisab says:

    the winner of 2020 is likely to pick two supreme court justices

  43. janz says:

    The physical wall is proving to thwart those wanting to climb it – video of migrants going home.

    As for the tariffs – it’s too early to see if applying them is folly or useful in rebalancing trade practices between countries.

    Pressuring NATO allies to participate with the percentages of GDP agreed upon is bringing in more money to support this alliance. Such support only makes it stronger in what it was originally intended to do – as a deterrent to another country’s aggression.

    Deficit spending takes bipartisan cooperation.

  44. NYCmike says:

    Good lists, jason.

    We both have minor disagreements on several issues, but none so great as to rather have the Democratic candidate win in 2020.

  45. NYCmike says:

    Robbie, “conservative Republican”: “I think the loss, ultimately, will serve a good purpose.”

    lisab, “utopian socialist”: “the winner of 2020 is likely to pick two supreme court justices”

  46. lisab says:

    the issue with scotus is you cannot easily predict which two justices will be replaced

    but the likelihood is two will either retire or die

    obviously ginsber and breyer are the favourites especially if a democrat wins

    but there is a good 20% chance a republican justice will go every year

    (everyone over 50 has at least a 5% chance of dying or having a major health problem that would make serving on scotus difficult or impossible, e.g. heart attack or stroke)

  47. lisab says:

    just to be clear … about age 50% you have a 1% chance of dying, and a much larger chance of getting seriously ill or having an accident

    that goes up dramatically at age 80

    two justices are over 80

  48. lisab says:

    obviously ginsber and breyer are the favourites especially if a democrat wins
    ——————————–

    because presumably they would retire to allow the dem president appoint replacements

  49. NYCmike says:

    https://quillette.com/2019/08/19/how-the-hong-kong-protestors-tactical-brilliance-backed-beijing-into-a-corner/

    -Really remarkable what is happening over there, I hope they all stay safe.

    I do find it odd though – the leader of China doesn’t say “mean” things on Twitter, and he hasn’t been affiliated with any dime-store hookers……I wonder why the Hong Kong people are so mad at him for….

  50. NYCmike says:

    “Deficit spending takes bipartisan cooperation.”

    -And it is certainly NOT a recent phenomenon!

  51. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie always wants a Republican to win the White House. He just never wants the Republican who has the nomination to win the White House.

  52. NYCmike says:

    “In other words the jobs were there, they just couldn’t all be filled.”

    -Certain jobs are very tight.

    Trying to hire CDL drivers has been a real pain, and the salary requirements for them have gone up steadily last 3 years.

  53. lisab says:

    trump has certainly been active on judges

    the appeals courts are just about to become 50% republican

    even the 9th circuit is about to become 55-45% dem

  54. lisab says:

    he has appointed more appeals judges in one term than any president since reagan

  55. John says:

    “Jobless claims fall 12,000 to 209,000 in mid-August, back near half century low”

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/jobless-claims-fall-12000-to-209000-in-mid-august-back-near-half-century-low-2019-08-22

    Recession? What recession?

  56. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    August 22, 2019 at 12:05 pm
    Amoral Scumbag, who has the morals of a floating turd, wants a socialist to win in 2020 so he can be optimistic?

    – Sometimes, bad losses can have positive effects.

    * The hard right got what it wanted with Goldwater in 1964, but the predictable landslide loss he suffered put them back in the corner and it led to big gains in 1966 and an era of Republican White House dominance starting in 1968.

    * GHWB’s loss in 1992 was a major disappointment brought on by Newton Leroy Gingrich and the rest of the hard right revolting over the budget deal. Still, that loss paved the way for the Republican revolution in 1994.

    * Obama’s victory and the large Democrat majorities were a tough pill to swallow, but it led to the massive 2010 victories in the House, Senate, governorships, and the statehouses.

    I suppose the mistake I made was assuming a fraudulent Trump ball licker like you would understand I was trying to find a silver lining in a looming debacle.

  57. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 22, 2019 at 12:08 pm
    Yep. Nothing says optimism like President Elizabeth Warren.

    – First, why is the hard right convinced Warren is going to be the nominee when she trails Biden badly in the national polling? Is this the “Rubio moment” of 2020? For months and months, every conservative pundit predicted Rubio would be the nominee even though he polled in the single digits for most of 2015.

    Second, see my response to Jason fraud in 59. I’m talking about finding a silver lining in the looming debacle.

  58. Robbie says:

    lisab says:
    August 22, 2019 at 12:26 pm
    the winner of 2020 is likely to pick two supreme court justices

    – Then you best find a Republican who can win in 2020 because if you support Trump you’re all but guaranteeing a Democrat will fill those two seats.

  59. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    August 22, 2019 at 12:41 pm
    Robbie, “conservative Republican”: “I think the loss, ultimately, will serve a good purpose.”
    lisab, “utopian socialist”: “the winner of 2020 is likely to pick two supreme court justices”

    – Add NYCmoron to the list of people who are too simple to understand I was trying to find a silver lining in a looming debacle.

    Of course, why should I be surprised. NYCmoron has spent the last decade in this forum touting the virtues of Tea Party economics (balanced budgets, free trade, etc.), but as soon as a charlatan conman from NYC comes along blows out the budget with deficits not seen before and institutes anti-free trade tariffs, he swoons and falls in line with the whims of the erratic charlatan.

  60. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    August 22, 2019 at 1:14 pm
    Robbie always wants a Republican to win the White House. He just never wants the Republican who has the nomination to win the White House.

    – Not true. I wanted GWB to win in 2000 and 2004. I wanted McCain to win in 2008. Yes, I wanted Romney to win in 2012. In the case of Romney, though, I wasn’t afraid to write he was running an awful campaign destined to lose what I felt was a winnable race against an weakened incumbent. Sadly, snowflakes like Jason fraud simply couldn’t handle hearing that Romney wasn’t running a quality campaign.

    Every criticism I had of Romney’s 2012 campaign stills holds up well today. He was an amazingly good man who oversaw a crappy campaign.

    * He allowed himself to get dragged too far to the right on immigration in the primaries.
    * He repeatedly stuck his foot in his mouth (47% comment).
    * He allowed his primary campaign to run out of money in late May and went dark on TV during June (a month when Obama creamed him).
    * He made Stuart Stevens his top strategist, a good man who misread the general election electorate.
    * He settled on a default strategy which was based on the erroneous view the public had already decided to vote of Obama. He just had to show the public he was a credible CiC.
    * He oversaw an ad buying strategy that waited until the week before to reserve time which doubled or tripled the rates Obama paid since he locked in his ad buys early.
    * He didn’t do multiple campaign events in the general election until late September.
    * He made a tactical error in the third debate not attack Obama as he had in his first debate.
    * He picked a rather bland VP who brought next to nothing to the campaign.

    Despite all that, Romney may well have won were it not for Super Storm Sandy.

  61. Robbie says:

    And by the way, I think Trump’s behavior, the last few days especially, has been the very definition of erratic and concerning. Whether it’s quote tweeting a conspiratorial loon who claims Trump is the “King of the Jews”, Trump suggesting he’s the “chosen one” to take on China, or his bizarre attacks on the Danish prime minister over not wanting to sell Greenland, Trump appears to be freaking out over the realization his re-election campaign is off to a horrible start and there are few, if any, avenues for him to use, especially since parts of the economy appear to be slowing thanks to his ill conceived tariffs and moronic trade war.

  62. Waingro says:

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    AZ WH’2020 poll from @OHPredictive:
    Biden 45, Trump 43
    Trump 44, Warren 43
    Trump 43, Buttigieg 38
    Trump 45, Harris 36
    Trump 44, Sanders 34

  63. NYCmike says:

    #64 – will we start seeing roundtables of psychiatrists on MSNBC AGAIN, telling us how CRAZY!! the President is?!?

  64. NYCmike says:

    Trump is DEFINITELY going to lose AZ with those numbers…….and take down McSally with him!

  65. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    66. Speaking a about needing a psychiatrist; troll should seriously give it some thought.

  66. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie wanted Romney to win? Interesting claim since he also planned on celebrating a Romney loss.

  67. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    67. When you poll Trump against an actual Democratic candidate, who is advocating socialist policies, then the presidential race becomes competitive. The presidential race may come down to choosing between the lesser of two evils. I will take Trump, who I don’t like, versus a socialists like Sanders or Warren.

  68. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    69. Its like a broken record, repeating the same posts as in 2016, and even in 2012. He’s the most virtuous conservative Republican in the world, but no candidates are up to his high standards — and quoting leftist talking points to explain why.

  69. Waingro says:

    #70, Pocahontus is competitive in that AZ poll though, relative to all the other non-Bidens.

  70. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Bernie Sanders has just come out with his “Green New Deal” Plan. Cost of $16.3 trillion through 2030. Since we need a livable planet, how we pay for it is not an issue.

  71. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It is like the McGovern campaign in 1972; during the primary he enjoyed a lovefest. Then the Republicans challenged how he was going to pay for his grand plans in the general election, and McGovern lost badly.

  72. NYCmike says:

    People may not care about $$ tags, as long as they are told the correct people will pay for it.

  73. janz says:

    Approval of anything usually depends on whose ox is being gored. If it’s somebody else’s than they’re fine with a policy, no matter the expense. If it causes them any fiscal grief, then they’re against it.

  74. CG says:

    Robbie has actually been quite consistent since he first started posting here in 2004, far more consistent than most.

    He has consistently expressed conservative views and a desire for Republicans to win. At the same time, he has always been very pessimistic about Republicans winning various races. Sometimes he has been right, sometimes not. Sometimes I have agreed, often I did not.

    He certainly wanted Romney to win though and even as I feel like much of his criticism of Romney’s campaign is irrelevant or off base now, he long ago (as in during that campaign) sought to clarify his comments about “celebrating.”

  75. CG says:

    Cubs win!

    Last night, 12-11 on 14 hits
    Today, 1-0 on 2 hits

    Talk about diversity

  76. Phil says:

    ‘‘He has consistently expressed conservative views”

    No he hasn’t.

  77. janz says:

    Phil, I agree…..

    If I could choreograph political dynamics over the next 5 plus years, I would have Trump win the 2020 election by a comfortable, non-controversial margin, spending his second and last term mopping up the Obama years, win back the House, hold onto the Senate, nominate more conservative jurists, including one more to the Supreme Court, have a fair trade deal with a China, pass the USMCA, and stabilize the border…..for starters.

    One can only dream….

  78. NYCmike says:

    “conservative view” = desire to see the Republican incumbent defeated by the Democratic candidate who has promised Medicaid For All.

  79. CG says:

    You will enjoy it!

  80. CG says:

    After all, Joe Walsh is an actual conservative, a genuine “Tea Partier”, like you once claimed to be who has always fought against the “evil establishment.”

    Seems like someone you should be supporting if you weren’t just blindly loyal to Trump. You have also expressed a preference for candidates who do not “play nice”, and you like “disrupters” so Walsh is saying he is going to be hitting Trump in the face every day (rhetorically)

    It’s going to be a lot of fun.

  81. CG says:

    “We need someone who could stand up, look the president in the eye and say: “Enough, sir. We’ve had enough of your indecency. We’ve had enough of your lies, your bullying, your cruelty, enough of your insults, your daily drama, your incitement, enough of the danger you place this country in every single day. We don’t want any of this anymore, and the country certainly can’t stand four more years of it.”

  82. Wes says:

    The same person who posted 81 wanted Christine O’Donnell, Ken Buck, Dick the Misogynist Bastard Mourdock, Eric Hovde, Matt Bevin, and Pat Morissey—guaranteed losers all—to win Senate primaries.

    Of course I’m sure he’s happy with the results in all the above but the seat Bevin ran for.

  83. Wes says:

    I’m sure Mikey and Elmer Gantry are upset to know Roy Moore has dismal 31-56 favorables and looks unlikely to come close to the runoff:

    https://yellowhammernews.com/tuberville-has-seized-the-momentum-internal-polling-shows-16-gap-in-u-s-senate-primary/

  84. Phil says:

    Yeah, Alabama has had just about enough of Moore. That’s good, because with The Colorado seat a goner and McSally’s seat in Arizona shaky at best, we will need that seat back.

  85. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 22, 2019 at 2:45 pm
    66. Speaking a about needing a psychiatrist; troll should seriously give it some thought.

    – I’ll give it a thought as soon as the guy who thinks Rasmussen is a credible poll and thinks Peter Navarro is a respected economist does the same.

  86. Robbie says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    August 22, 2019 at 2:46 pm
    Robbie wanted Romney to win? Interesting claim since he also planned on celebrating a Romney loss.

    – A comment for which I apologized not long after I wrote it in March 2012 and a comment which I noted was made out of frustration because I felt Romney was the wrong person to take on Obama.

    Romney is a good man who would have made a very good president, especially in comparison to the mentally unwell buffoon we have now.

  87. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 22, 2019 at 2:56 pm
    69. Its like a broken record, repeating the same posts as in 2016, and even in 2012. He’s the most virtuous conservative Republican in the world, but no candidates are up to his high standards — and quoting leftist talking points to explain why.

    – This is cute coming from someone who has been all over the map on Trump the last eight months. Last December, you wanted Trump removed from office because he wanted to unilaterally pull out troops from Syria. Now, you’re back to fluffing him and taking up for his idiot economic advisor Peter Navarro.

  88. Robbie says:

    Waingro says:
    August 22, 2019 at 3:05 pm
    #70, Pocahontus is competitive in that AZ poll though, relative to all the other non-Bidens.

    – What we’re likely to find going forward is most of the Democrat candidates will be competitive because presidential re-elections are referendums on the incumbent. Right now, the public seems tired of Trump and ready to get rid of him. Because of that, people who don’t look credible become credible. The perfect example is the pot smoking womanizer Bill Clinton. He could only be elected because the public was ready to “fire” GHWB.

  89. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    August 22, 2019 at 3:17 pm
    It is like the McGovern campaign in 1972; during the primary he enjoyed a lovefest. Then the Republicans challenged how he was going to pay for his grand plans in the general election, and McGovern lost badly.

    – Of course what this history lesson from SDC forgets is Nixon was very popular during his first term. He often polled above 55%. Trump has never cracked 45% in any average.

  90. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    August 22, 2019 at 4:55 pm
    ‘‘He has consistently expressed conservative views”
    No he hasn’t.

    – BS you cranky old boomer. I have expressed my conservative positions in this forum hundreds of times. You have just chosen to ignore them because you would rather cry like a baby with a dirty diaper that I don’t offer rosy outlooks about certain candidates.

    I’m sorry the country doesn’t look like it did during the hayday of your life and I’m sorry you’re not getting your wall, but stop lying.

  91. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    August 22, 2019 at 5:57 pm
    “conservative view” = desire to see the Republican incumbent defeated by the Democratic candidate who has promised Medicaid For All.

    – I see NYCmoron’s red MAGA dunce cap must be on too tight. I want a Republican to win in 2020 and that’s why I want to see Trump booted from the ticket so an actual Republican can replace him and win you, nimrod.

    I would run, not walk, to vote for Pence, Haley, Romney, Rubio, Kasich, or several others. I’m not the least bit interested in voting for a charlatan conman from NYC who is mentally unwell like you are. But then again, I didn’t trade in my principles like you did for Trump.

  92. lisab says:

    Federal Court: State Cannot Bind Presidential Electors
    Ruling could impact liberal efforts at Electoral College workaround

  93. lisab says:

    OBAMA JUDGE RULES MEDICAID MUST PAY FOR TRANSGENDER SEX REASSIGNMENT SURGERY

  94. Bitterlaw says:

    Robbie/CG – Trump wins or a hard leftist wins in 2020. Trump is not a conservative but he is not a hard leftist, either. Choose one winner or the other.

  95. VictrC says:

    Bitter

    Couldn’t have said it better. If a leftist wins in 2020 then both Breyer and Ginsburg are replaced with 40 year old judges to the left of them. If one Originalist judge goes (Thomas anyone?) then another 40 year old ultra liberal judge is on the SC and then, yes, for sure this country as we know it is toast.

    So please, if you think that getting Trump out is more important than a far leftists being President you have officially become the worst of the worst deadender.

    No one here really likes Trump BUT they don’t like an ultra Liberal socialist in his place making decisions on judges, spending, national security, 2nd amendment, abortion, taxes, and the list goes on and on and on.

    Get your head out of wherever you have it. NO ONE LIKES TRUMP, but he WILL BE THE NOMINEE. Deal with it. And like it or not, those deplorable you hate, and you know who you are, vote and are sick of being marginalized by the left and some on this site.

  96. jason says:

    would run, not walk, to vote for Pence, Haley, Romney, Rubio, Kasich, or several others.”

    That is why he was here celebrating Obama’s win over Romney.

    That is why he trashed Rubio and Kasich non-stop during the entire 2016 campaign.

    He wouldn’t vote for Pence or Haley in a million years.

    This guy is an amoral, despicable, lying POS.

    Anyone that believes anything he says is a gullible idiot.

  97. lisab says:

    San Francisco Changes Term ‘Convicted Felons’ To More Politically Correct ‘Elected Officials’

  98. Phil says:

    I’m not lying you POS. You NEVER have a damned thing to say about issues period. All you ever do is run over here with the latest MSM talking points. Oh yeah, I stand corrected. You did once say you didn’t care about the border. I guess that’s an issue. Told us how you stand on that one didn’t you, Mr Conservative. Like that one was a secret. Other than that, not a word about “issues.” Now, as bitter would say, GFY.

  99. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Am afraid troll’s favorite Republican may not even make it through the Alabama primary:

    “The polling memo details, “The data have been weighted to reflect expected turnout demographics for the 2020 primary election.” “Tuberville leads all candidates with 33%, with support for both Congressman Bradley Byrne (17%) and former Chief Justice Roy Moore (15%) in the mid-teens,” the memo states. According to the survey, Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill, at 13%, barely trailed Moore. State Rep. Arnold Mooney (R-Indian Springs) came in at 1%.”

  100. lisab says:

    After Epstein Sea Level Rises Hundreds Of Feet Due To Sweat From Celebrities Waiting To Be Outed As Perverts

  101. lisab says:

    White Privilege Card Now Good For 10% Off At Whole Foods

  102. lisab says:

    Nation Touched By Joe Biden

    well … at least the girls

  103. lisab says:

    Elizabeth Warren Changes Twitter Profile To Include Authentic Indian Name

    “Panties in a Twist”

  104. lisab says:

    Kamala Harris Polling Poorly Among Unborn Babies

  105. lisab says:

    Elizabeth Warren Offers Fur, Corn, and Wampum In Exchange For Votes

  106. Wes says:

    This is an internal, so add all the salt you want. I certainly hope it’s not accurate:

    http://democraticags.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Clarity-DAGA-Kentucky-poll-memo-Aug-2019_final.pdf

  107. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Wes’
    I worry about you and your new affiliation with Robbie.
    Only Robbie would post such garbage as you do in #112. There are no crosstabs–I wonder why? When did you start posting unverifiable internals?
    Your disclaimer means nothing. Do better because you are better.

  108. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – All the polls are wrong unless the Republican is leading. Please stick with the approved HHR guidelines.

  109. Wes says:

    Sheep, this is a polling site. I posted a poll. I’m sorry you’re offended I posted a poll on a polling site, but such is the nature of the site.

    Personally I usually discount internals, but if I see one I’ll post it unless it’s already been posted.

    That is the principal reason for this blog after all.

  110. NYCmike says:

    “That is the principal reason for this blog after all.”

    -I thought the principal reason was to keep up to date on the escapades of the one-and-only “Ca$h Cow”…..

    https://images.app.goo.gl/zRBRgbVqUSdufFey8

  111. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Wes
    Since you have no qualms about posting Democrat push polls, please start posting Polaris Polls since their accuracy is worth more than the spit of the poll you posted and HHR is a polling aggregator,don’t you know.
    I think most of us on HHR know that you posted the poll to inflame, that you cribbed it from GradyDem on RRH and that you wanted to burnish your “sky is falling” meme. Admit!
    Whenever you now see a GOP internal regardless of its absurdity, I will expect you to post it here within a few hours.

  112. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    China announced $75 billion of new tariffs on American products.. The market has gone south about 200 points.
    China’s announcement claims that this action is not a result of the “trade war”, but of the USA’s sale of billions of dollars of military weaponry to Taiwan.

  113. Wes says:

    You obviously haven’t been very observant, Sheep. If I see polls that haven’t been posted I’ll post them regardless of source. I’ve done that going back to 2010. I always post similar disclaimers about internals—which I advise caution with as I did here because they seek out the most favorable outcomes for the campaign paying for them—for the simple fact that they are internals.

    Had it been a GOP internal I would have posted the same disclaimer but said I hope it’s right.

    I’m sorry you’re upset I posted a poll you don’t like, but I’m not here to please you. I’ll post any previously unposted polls I find regardless of source. If I feel reservations about the source I will note them—as I did with this poll.

  114. Wes says:

    I just heard a semi humorous ad supporting Dan Bishop attacking Democrats for all the gender bending nonsense. I’m not sure that’s a hugely salient issue, but the approach is novel and may energize socons in support of Bishop.

  115. jason says:

    “Bitterlaw says:
    August 22, 2019 at 1:14 pm

    Robbie always wants a Republican to win the White House. He just never wants the Republican who has the nomination to win the White House.”

    Perfect, I could not have said it better.

    Amoral Scumbag has the same M.O. every election. He would never have supported Rubio or Kasich or Christie or any other against Hillary, he was here every day with all the same MSM talking points and lies against them too, nothing was ever too low, too over the top or too much character assassination for him to regurgitate it here, just like he did with Romney.

    Anyone who believes he would really support some fictional R candidate against any of the D socialists is smoking some good sh-t. He would be here posting every MSM hit job against any other R the instant another candidate was nominated.

    Like I said, it was never about Trump, just like it was never about Romney. Amoral Scumbag wants a socialist in 2020 because somehow that would vindicate the fact nobody here except maybe Corey buys his BS.

  116. jason says:

    Sheep, this is a polling site.

    wes clearly indicated he was posting an internal poll, and said take it with a grain of salt.

    What is the problem exactly?

  117. jason says:

    China’s announcement claims that this action is not a result of the “trade war”, but of the USA’s sale of billions of dollars of military weaponry to Taiwan.”

    They are learning from Trump, who threatened to impose tariffs on Mexico for immigration issues that had nothing to do with trade wars.

    I am sure the AFL-CIO conservatives here will applaud the Chinese for borrowing such great ideas from Trump.

  118. jason says:

    Wes’
    I worry about you and your new affiliation with Robbie.”

    Dang, if wes was an A-hole I would have given him some points.

    Maybe at the next A-hole board meeting we can create an Honorable Mention category that doesn’t award points but gives recognition anyway.

  119. Bitterlaw says:

    This stopped being just a polling site when Kate Upton was on the cover of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue.

  120. jason says:

    Oh, I agree it is more than a polling site.

    It is also the fabric that connects the A-holes.

  121. Phil says:

    Would run, not walk, to vote for Rubio.

    LMAO

    Yeah, he spent nine months trashing Rubio at every turn. It’s like he thinks we never read his posts – dozens and dozens of them…..yep, but WE are the liars.

  122. jason says:

    Elizabeth Warren Offers Fur, Corn, and Wampum In Exchange For Votes”

    I am afraid of what wampun might be so I will take door 2 please, Guadalupe likes corn.

    Reminds me of the nursing home where a 90 year old woman had the habit of jumping in front of the old men and pulling up her skirt and yelling “Super Sex”!

    She did it in front of a new arrival, who took a quick look and said:

    “I’ll take the soup”.

  123. jason says:

    Would run, not walk, to vote for Rubio.”

    Right, Amoral Scumbag is just the kind of guy that would forgive Rubio for daring to run against his “clear the field, suck up all the money, juggernaut front runner” Jeb, and then kicking Jeb’s ass in 8 debates straight, and turning out to be what, 100 times better a candidate than Jeb, who spent over $200 million for 4 delegates.

    When it comes to burying the hatchet and doing what is best for the party and the country, doesn’t Amoral Scumbag’s name always come to mind?
    Don’t you always think of him as someone willing to look at the big picture instead of petty concerns?

    Amoral Scumbag would have crawled naked over broken glass to vote for Hillary over Rubio, just so he could come here to celebrate and chastise everyone for not supporting Jeb.

  124. jason says:

    I am actually surprised wes beat out Amoral Scumbag in posting that poll.

    It is exactly the kind of poll that Amoral Scumbag would usually step on his mother’s head to rush to the computer to post so he can do a re-run of his “McConnell is doomed” spiel last time around, when McConnell trashed Amoral Scumbag’s “formidable candidate” by what, 15 points.

  125. jason says:

    BTw, those are pretty decent numbers for Trump in Nevada.

  126. lisab says:

    Lori Loughlin’s daughters Olivia Jade, 19, and Bella, 20, are ‘laying low’ while their parents face up to 40 years behind bars in college admissions scandal
    ———————————–

    sooooooooo … if you cheat to get your children into college … you get 40 years behind bars …

    but

    if you are an illegal alien, your children get college for free?

  127. lisab says:

    Breaking: LAPD looking for a male and female suspect in park shooting

  128. lisab says:

    Breaking: LAPD spokesperson has been fired for assuming shooters’ gender

  129. Wes says:

    Ironically Sheep just commented on the same poll I posted when an RRHer reposted it but failed to put the contempt and disdain for its existence into his comments.

  130. lisab says:

    Obama’s buy $15 million dollar on coast of island

    and plan to host fund raising parties to fight climate change and rising sea levels …

    (seriously … it is right on the water)