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Hogan Leads Van Hollen in MD, Trump Trails Dems in VA

A Republican US Senator from Maryland? A long way away, but The Washington Post is showing in their latest poll that popular Republican Governor Larry Hogan would lead sitting US Senator Chris Van Hollen in a hypothetical 2022 match up for the US Senate.

US SENATE – MARYLAND – 2022 (WaPo)
Larry Hogan (R) 50%
Chris Van Hollen (D_-inc) 42%

This poll was done October 9-14 among registered voters. Meanwhile the the south of Maryland, a poll last week that came from Virginia Commonwealth University shows the top three Democrats ahead of Donald Trump.

PRESIDENT – VIRGINIA (VCU)
Joe Biden (D) 52%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 44%

Elizabeth Warren (D) 50%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 46%

Bernie Sanders (D) 48%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 47%

This poll was done September 23-October 4 among 800 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 5:21 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (225)

225 Responses to “Hogan Leads Van Hollen in MD, Trump Trails Dems in VA”

  1. Wes says:

    0% chance Hogan challenges van Hollen UNLESS a Dem beats Trump and utterly fails as President. That’s not an unrealistic scenario, but even then I doubt Hogan can win.

  2. Wes says:

    My, how times have changed. From 1968 to 2004, Dems lost VA every time. Even Carter and Clinton never carried the Old Dominion. GWB won the state twice by solid margins of 8% and 9% respectively. Since then, Romney has come the closest of Republicans to carrying it, losing 47-51.

    This poll is absolutely accurate.

  3. michael corleone says:

    It’s also a great poll for POTUS because unless he faces Biden, once the campaign gets going, Warren and Sander’s socialism will not play well enough to deliver the margins the Ds need in suburbs, and I fully expect a low AA turnout.

  4. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    You can see why Trump pulled out all stops to try and knock Biden out of the race.

  5. Bitterlaw says:

    MC forgets that people are willing to do terrible things when faced with bad choices. For some people, a flaming leftist President is a small price to pay for getting rid of Trump.

  6. Hugh says:

    Then again a Midwest suburban woman with a mortgage may decide voting with her hubby for a jerk who delivers on the economy versus a economic nut job

  7. Tina says:

    Here is goobers am interview with the money honey.

    This was some despite being unhinged since Thursday.

    https://youtu.be/8ZOUntMtlfo

  8. Victrc says:

    Actually encouraged by the VA poll. I believe that having trumo within MOE in Virginiabides well for how’s he doing elsewheee in the country.

  9. Tina says:

    Dang, can va be a battleground?

  10. Wes says:

    Romney got 47% in VA. McCain got 46%. I wouldn’t read too much into this poll.

  11. michael corleone says:

    I expect DJT to win the 2016 states plus MN and VA, with an outside shot at flipping NH NM NV and ME.

  12. Phil says:

    Quite frankly Trump looks to be about where he was in Va in 2016, no better but certainly no worse.

  13. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina killed the thread.

  14. Tina says:

    Pierre, where are you?

  15. Wes says:

    MC’s optimism feeds on meager fare. MN and VA are both states dominated by large Trump-hating urban and suburban areas. There simply aren’t enough people in areas Trump will carry to flip either state.

  16. Tina says:

    UPDATED: Mitt Romney’s Secret Twitter Account Discovered – Named “Pierre Delecto” — Slammed Marco Rubio, Newt, Rudy Giuliani, and ‘Liked’ Bill Kristol Impeachment Quote!

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/busted-mitt-romneys-secret-twitter-account-discovered-named-pierre-delecto/

  17. Bitterlaw says:

    MC also predicted the end of civilization if gays could get married.

  18. dblaikie says:

    You folks know that I believe that this election is Trump’s to lose. But to think that he is going to win Virginia is a bridge too far. The Trump hatred in Northern Virginia is too deep and strong. In the old days the rural Va counties could off set the DC suburb counties. Those days are over.

    Now Minnesota might be a different story. The good economy might make a difference. And he did come close in 2016. But it will be an up hill battle. I put Minnesota on the level of Nevada. Could happen, but odds are it won’t. I hate to say that because I grew up in Carson City. However the Nevada I grew up in is not the same as today. And the voting machine of the culinary workers in Las Vegas and Reno will be hard to overcome in the foreseeable election cycles.

  19. Victrc says:

    20. I have to agree with you. If Trump takes Virginia, or even comes close it’s because he’s winning in a landslide and this is just icing. I also agree that MN is much closer and he had a chance to flip it…thanks to a certain “squad” member.

    I’m happy with him holding what he has and preventing the slide to a far left version of socialism for four more years.

  20. Tina says:

    Prolly a better chance to add Minnesota than Va.

    Or getting NH.

  21. michael corleone says:

    The main reason that I think Trump has a real shot in VA is that I understand it has a very large AA voting population and it seems to me that that part of the D coalition is not going to be as energized as white liberals, especially if Pocohantas is the nominee. We shall see.

  22. Wes says:

    Although blacks make up a big part of the Dem coalition, NoVA is his problem with all its virulently anti-Trump government workers. They will have no problem turning out. Trump will carry mostly rural and exurban counties—not nearly well populated enough to flip the state. Richmond, Charlottesville, and NoVA are the Dems’ Big Three in the Commonwealth. That’s enough to beat Trump regardless of what blacks decide to do.

  23. Wes says:

    Trump may make MN close because of his popularity in the outstate area, but Hennepin County and Ramsey County—the state’s principal population centers—will vote overwhelmingly against him and almost certainly keep the state out of reach.

  24. BayernFan says:

    Trump will get more black votes than people think. Maybe as much as 20%.

  25. Wes says:

    Blacks have started a glacial trend toward the GOP ever since Romney made slight inroads among them by increasing the GOP vote share among younger blacks in 2012. They’re already factored in and are a lesser problem than before. Anti-Trump suburban and urban voters are the GOP’s problem in the Age of Trump. That’s why Trump has little if any chance of flipping any Hillary states. Even if by some miracle he pulls off a victory—and I still consider this the least likely outcome next year—he’s likely to do so with a smaller margin than in 2016 as reflected in his internal polling, which indicates MI is all but gone for him.

  26. Wes says:

    20% of the black vote?

    Let’s make a $1000 charity bet on that, Bay.

    It’s not happening.

  27. Wes says:

    If Trump manages 20% of the Black vote, he’ll win with Eisenhower levels in the Electoral College. There’s exactly a 0% chance that happens.

  28. Tina says:

    John Ocasio-Nolte
    @NolteNC
    2m2 minutes ago
    More
    “Everything about this story says so much about Mitt Romney: his pettiness, his insecurity, his lack of character, honesty, and decency, starting with how it all unraveled.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/10/21/nolte-mitt-romney-caught-with-secret-pierre-delecto-twitter-account-to-champion-himself/

  29. Robbie says:

    Bill Kristol
    @BillKristol

    55% of voters say Donald Trump should be impeached and removed from office, 37% say he should not be impeached and removed from office. In September, 50% of voters favored Trump impeachment and removal, 40% opposed Trump impeachment and removal. americanresearchgroup.com

    – It’s one poll and it’s ARG so caveats apply, but this is the first time impeachment and removal has hit 55%. To me, that’s the red line for Trump. If other polls show removal at or above 55%, then Trump’s in real trouble.

    And if Republicans in the Senate view their own chances collapsing because of Trump’s sagging numbers, they may decide they have nothing to lose by voting against him. Erick Erickson laid out that case this morning.

  30. Robbie says:

    Erick Erickson makes the case the Senate is Trump’s Achilles heel and Republicans may decide they have nothing to lose by voting against him if polling continues to show their own re-election chances falling by the wayside because of his own problems.

    This is still an unlikely scenario, but watch the removal number. If it consistently hits 55% or higher, Trump’s in real trouble.

    https://theresurgent.com/2019/10/21/preside-trumps-achilles-heel/

  31. Tina says:

    Larry Schweikart

    More
    So we have in this political age:
    *A pompous Mormon who lies while running a phony Twit account under a goofball porn name
    *A Hindu Hottie who is as far left as Lenin but looks good saying “stand them up against a wall and shoot them
    *And an aging Cankles who thinks she won 2016

  32. Robbie says:

    In the 538 adjusted polling average, Trump has fallen to 41.1%. In their computation, Trump has rarely been above 43%. RCP, which does not adjust polling based on past performance, has had Trump generally about a point higher than 538.

    I mention this because presidents running for re-election do not win with a job approval rating that low, especially when the economy is doing so well. This is not Trump’s election to lose, regardless of whom the nominee is.

    GHWB had a 70% approval rating in October 1991 and then lost in a landslide to a small state governor who admitted to pot smoking, draft dodging, an infidelity. When the country decides it’s through with a president, the opponent has a low threshold to cross. More importantly, the 10%-15% of the voters who decide elections do not vote on policy. They vote on the person.

  33. jason says:

    Heh, Romney is your crazy resistance uncle.

  34. jason says:

    RCP, which does not adjust polling based on past performance,”

    LOL, you can’t make this sh-t up.

    Amoral Scumbag moves the goalposts again, he used to like the RCP average, now it’s not “skewed enough” by a leftwing hack like Silver.

    You really have to try hard to be that much of a despicable turd of a human being.

    When compared to Amoral Scumbag, Trump is a paragon of virtue, and we know he is no paragon of virtue.

  35. jason says:

    A pompous Mormon who lies while running a phony Twit account under a goofball porn name”

    He must be a secret admirer of Carlos Danger.

  36. Tina says:

    piglosi should vote now for impeachment.

    Bring it Botoxic.

  37. Tina says:

    Prolly no difference between the 2:

    Tweets & replies
    Media
    Likes
    John Cardillo’s Tweets

    John Cardillo
    @johncardillo
    ·
    3h
    Mitt morphed info John Kerry

    Sad!

  38. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag struck out with what 20 fake scandals, now he is excited by another of his cheap little coup attempts.

    The Senate is not going to remove Trump, you read it here first.

    Of course maybe Amoral Scumbag wants to give us the names of the what 18 senators who are going to vote for a coup against Trump..

    This should be good.

  39. Tina says:

    John Cardillo
    ?
    @johncardillo
    I’m thinking Pierre Delecto and Carlos Danger hang out

    A lot

    749
    4:44 AM – Oct 21, 2019

  40. Tina says:

    The inquirer article does raise a good point about China Bidens campaign,

    He is bleeding cash and quite low based on his major competitors.

  41. Phil says:

    Yeah, I would like to see those 18 names as well.

  42. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag hardest hit.

    U.S. Supreme Court tosses challenge to Republican-drawn Michigan electoral maps”

  43. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag is so desperate his new “go to” sources are Bill Kristol and Erick Erickson.

    As they say, politics makes strange bedfellows

  44. jason says:

    ’m thinking Pierre Delecto and Carlos Danger hang out”

    LOL

  45. Phil says:

    I’m sure Manchin can’t wait to have Schumer lean on him to vote to convict Trump.

    Joe, we need you to vote aye to remove Trump.

    Are you kidding? Trump carried my state by 41 points.

    Now Joe, don’t make this hard. We need your vote to present a united front.

    Tell you what, Chuckie. How about you just mind your own business.

  46. John says:

    Question.
    Why in the world did/does Mitt Romney has a secret twitter account under the name of Pierre Delecto?
    This is bizarre.

  47. jason says:

    “Pierre Delecto”

    If you ever doubted Romney was a pompous ass, let there be no more doubt.

  48. jason says:

    Why in the world did/does Mitt Romney has a secret twitter account under the name of Pierre Delecto?”

    Huh, if you see a twitter account “Inca Amish Stud”, it isn’t me.

  49. jason says:

    Meanwhile in Proud ObamaCON’s shining beacon of light, the Socialist paradise of Venezuela…

    “In Venezuela, a crumbling economy and the collapse of even basic state infrastructure means water comes irregularly — and drinking it is an increasingly risky gamble. Venezuela’s current rate of infant mortality from diarrhea, which is closely related to water quality, is six times higher than 15 years ago, according to the World Health Organization.”

  50. Tina says:

    Romney should have named his account

    Pierre Defecto

    He defected from conservatism.

  51. CG says:

    John Baron wishes he were half the man Pierre Delecto is.

  52. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #31 & 32
    I chuckled when I read the Erik Ericson article.
    Catch the last sentence of this paragragh in the article:

    “Right now, a lot of senators are probably starting to think they have nothing to lose. Why? Because the Senate is suddenly in jeopardy. New polling shows Arizona, Iowa, Maine, and North Carolina are not going well for the GOP right now. They already expect to lose Colorado. So that’s five seats at serious risk, which gives the Democrats a healthy buffer.”

    1- So there are 5 GOP seats in play of which 4 are toss-ups and the Democrats have yet to find competitive candidates for NC and IA.
    2- Erikson neglects to mention that Alabama will likely go to the GOP giving Republicans a putative 4 seat cushion.

    So where is “the healthy buffer”?

    Anything can happen in 2020, but the Erikson article is unpersuasive.

  53. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #34- Robbie
    Why is the ARG Poll not included with the RCP Average? Could it be that:

    1- It has never had Trump’s approval above 42%.
    2- Their most current poll has a PID of D+11.
    3- Trump’s approval/disapproval for the economy is 37%/ 55%, respectively.
    4- The Impeachment yes/ no is identical to the economic numbers in above #3.

    Is ARG the new Research 2000?

  54. VictrC says:

    Sheep

    Agree with you. What a crock, the sky is falling article. You are right, Colorado is going to be almost certainly gone, but we counter that with AL.

    That leaves “us” with a four seat cushion. In ME please, she has a long history there and its tough to beat an incumbent with her profile, money and history. Not impossible, but I think she holds on.

    You’re correct with NC and IA, which leaves AZ and we can all debate how McSally is as a candidate, and her opponent, etc but that’s a 50/50 race. Soooooo. Again, never trumpers sky is falling is an overreach.

    We do need to be concerned, so lets take nothing for granted

  55. jason says:

    “And if you had doubts about Romney being a scumbag, put those to rest to.

    His account if full of likes for comments from Schiff and other moonbats.

    Although I am sure Amoral Scumbag’s account is also full of likes for moonbats.

  56. jason says:

    The Never Trumpers are “concerned” about the Senate, while they endeavor to make sure Rs lose the Senate.

    Why, because “it is bad for Trump”.

  57. Wes says:

    Remember when MC said he expects Trump to flip MN?

    Well, a poll has come out showing Trump trails in the state by 9 to 17. It’s behind a paywall, so linking would be pointless.

    The simple fact is that Trump built a coalition centered in sparsely populated areas. The bustling cities and suburbs will outvote them in states Trump didn’t carry last time. Good chance he loses at least one close state from 2016 because of that too.

  58. VictrC says:

    Jason

    They have taken the LIberal mentality…”if you don’t agree with us 100% then we are going to punish you. If the party loses and we don’t get conservative policies, its worth it because you didn’t agree with us and our candidate.”

    Look at how they join Liberals in still wanting to overturn the 2016 elections. Liberals the General, NT the primary results

  59. VictrC says:

    Wes

    If he becomes competitive in MN its gravy. It means he’s won the election and is just adding to the victory.

    It’s a long way to Election Day. What he does do with these big rallies, even if they are drawing “rural” voters, is that he is helping to at least create a competitive “narrative” to the contact anti-trump MSM meme that is saturating the airwaves each day.

    At end of the day he can afford to lose 2 of the 3 (WI, MI and PA) and still win. With a billion dollars+ to spend (when he spent what? 25% or less than that in 2016) I am venturing that he can hold on to one. I know you disagree.

  60. jason says:

    I have lost all respect for Romney.

    He is a spineless wonder who sold his soul for transient and insincere MSM adulation.

    But “liking” Schiff?

    If someone here said Romney is a Schiff admirer I probably would have replied he might be an MSM sycophant but let’s not get carried away.

    I would have been wrong.

  61. jason says:

    f you don’t agree with us 100% then we are going to punish you. If the party loses and we don’t get conservative policies, its worth it because you didn’t agree with us and our candidate.”

    That is exactly it.

    Trump will still be a billionaire, of course. The rest of us will have the nanny state, open borders, huge tax increases, loss of freedoms, you namet it.

    It’s the clearest example of cut off your nose to spite your face I have ever seen.

  62. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #60- Wes
    From behind the paywall of the MN Poll;

    http://m.startribune.com/minnesota-poll-trump-vs-democratic-candidates/563150861/

    The lead of 17 is for Klobuchar, who will not be the Dem. Presidential nominee.The others range from 9-12, which are similar to polling of the presidential race in MN in 2016.
    Trump gets killed in the Minneapolis/ St. Paul Counties, but carries all other areas including the “Metro Suburbs”.

    I hope all goes well for you and Tink.

  63. michael corleone says:

    Can I just note for the record that the Star Tribune had Clinton +8 two weeks before the election and she carried the state by a point and a half. So pardon me if I’m not super concerned about this poll more than a year out and before DJT has defined the nominee as a commie.

  64. Tina says:

    Does Quittens think he is 12 years old? What a disaster for him personally and the dc Rs.

    Larry Schweikart
    ?

    @LarrySchweikart
    16m16 minutes ago
    More
    BOOM! @rushlimbaugh “Mitt Romney is the epitome of everything that’s wrong with the D.C. Republicans”

  65. Tina says:

    Erickson May be able to give George Conway advise on the following

    Double or Triple Cheeseburger.

  66. Wes says:

    Well, Sheep, Trump is going to lose 4/5-1 in a part of MN comprising north of 30% of the electorate. He’ll have to damn near run the table by similar margins elsewhere to carry the state. (Let’s not forget Trump the Candidate didn’t generate the same level of visceral hatred as Trump the President.) Republicans were massacred in MN and VA last year because of deep-rooted antipathy toward Trump.

    Do you honestly expect that to change this time when voters can vote against Trump directly rather than by proxy?

  67. jason says:

    Look at how they join Liberals in still wanting to overturn the 2016 elections.”

    Yep, that is all that it is about.

    It’s not really about Trump per se. It’s about the fact Trump beat their candidate in 2016.

    They can’t get over it no matter what has happened since and what will happen in the future.

    In the end it is still about Jeb.

    These people are not deep thinkers. Shallow, vindictive and petty.

  68. Wes says:

    MC, the white population in MN is loaded with Scandinavians and Lutherans—both extremely liberal subsets of the electorate for whom “socialism” isn’t necessarily a negative term. Forgive me for doubting the efficacy of that line of attack.

  69. Tina says:

    1 reply 6 retweets 11 likes
    Reply 1 Retweet 6 Like 11

    Larry Schweikart
    ?
    Deplorable and despicable,

    @LarrySchweikart
    10m10 minutes ago
    More
    OMG. @rushlimbaugh “Pierre Delecto” translates into “Delightful Peter.”

    Can you say Carlos Danger?

    These people are utter corrupt sickos.

  70. Tina says:

    You mean like wire tapping trump tower?

    Targeting a presidential campaign on orders from the top?

    new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey shows that 51% of Likely U.S. Voters think it’s likely senior law enforcement officials broke the law in an effort to prevent Donald Trump from winning the presidency. That includes 34% who say it’s Very Likely. Thirty-six percent (36%) consider high-level illegality as unlikely, with 22% who say it’s Not At All Likely. Thirteen percent (13%) are not sure.

  71. John says:

    Mike Huckabee mentioned today that only ‘kids, cowards or perverts have fake twitter accounts’.
    Just learned that this Pierre Dilecto twitter praised Adam Schiff’s tweeting, Chris Murphy’s tweeting, praised George Conway and Ana Navarro, and even praised pro-abortionist Molly Jong-Fast mocking pro-lifers at a CPAC convention.
    I’ll put it bluntly. Romney is creepy.

  72. Tina says:

    The jebots 2016 candidate is sick.

    More
    “She’s accusing everyone of being a Russian agent,” says @POTUS of @HillaryClinton. “These people are sick. There’s something wrong with them.”

  73. jason says:

    Republicans were massacred in MN”

    Not in the House they flipped two Dems seats, one in the Minneapolis suburbs.

    The also lost two seats, but MN was actually one of the few places where D seats went R.

  74. Wobbles says:

    “Pierre Delecto” translates into “Delightful Peter.”

    If it was Trump, I would have a conniption AND a hissy fit.

    Since it is Romney, I don’t think he understands French or Latin.

  75. Wes says:

    They lost two staunch Trump-supporting Congressmen and picked up two open House seats for a net of O in the state. They lost every statewide race by double digits and took big losses in the Legislature. That’s still an electoral massacre. Breaking even in the House despite losing badly nationally isn’t anything but a Pyrrhic victory.

  76. John says:

    On the Fox News Sunday show Chris Wallace mentioned he talked to a GOP Senator and this GOP Senator that ‘we all know’ said that there is a 20% chance that Trump will be removed from office by the Senate.
    Hmmmmmm…..my bet that this GOP Senator is Romney.

  77. NYCmike says:

    CG says:
    October 21, 2019 at 12:05 pm

    John Baron wishes he were half the man Pierre Delecto is.

    -Is “Pierre Delecto” another name for G-D?

    Or has Trump forced “CG” into polytheism?

  78. Tina says:

    A reasonable assumption. Looks like Francois Kerry tweeted his approval to Quittens.

    Mike Huckabee mentioned today that only ‘kids, cowards or perverts have fake twitter accounts’.

  79. NYCmike says:

    “Mike Huckabee mentioned today that only ‘kids, cowards or perverts have fake twitter accounts’.”

    -Robbie, what is your fake Twitter account called?

  80. NYCmike says:

    As someone who has been fence-sitting for many years on Syria, I can attest to the fact that Tina was never FOR getting involved there, and did make comments putting down Trump.

  81. Tina says:

    I also blasted trump on the tax cuts.

    Said I was going to get killed, mainly due to the state tax limitation of $10,000.

    But watch mr. Bl move the goal post again.

  82. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/faith/aoc-bernie-made-me-recognize-my-inherent-value-as-a-human-being/

    “”It wasn’t until I heard of a man by the name of Bernie Sanders that I began to question and assert and recognize my inherent value as a human being that deserves health care, housing, education, and a living wage,” AOC explained.”

    -NeverTrumpers like Robbie and “CG” think Trump is worse than a candidate supported by this dolt of a human being.

  83. NYCmike says:

    “I also blasted trump on the tax cuts.”

    -I definitely read such comments……then again, I made such statements like “Trump was totally wrong to sign the budget bill sent to him by Congress!”, and some of the same people criticizing Tina would then say I only blame Congress for the terrible spending bills.

  84. Tina says:

    Rather than worry about hundred years of fighting between Kurds and turkey and wanting us to be in the middle or possibly take. a side, you should be more worried about our Southern Border and the fact that the Mexican Drug Cartel defeated the Mexican gubment.

    Fast and furious were the cartel.

    https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/21/a-drug-cartel-just-defeated-the-mexican-military-in-battle/

  85. lisab says:

    trump will be close in mn

    it depends who the dem candidate is

    the dems are divided here

    although strangely, warren plays well with the traditional liberals here, better than biden.

    biden of course does much better with the working class

  86. NYCmike says:

    https://claireberlinski.substack.com/p/on-mexican-state-collapse-a-guest

    -More on Mexico.

    One of our workers was very enthusiastic for the new Presidente before he was elected……now, not so much.

    I’ll wait for those who REFUSE to put a number on legal immigration per year to opine on these developments.

  87. jason says:

    jason:

    “Not in the House they flipped two Dems seats, one in the Minneapolis suburbs.

    The also lost two seats, but MN was actually one of the few places where D seats went R.”

    wes:

    “they lost two staunch Trump-supporting Congressmen and picked up two open House seats for a net of O in the state.”

    The two “open seats” were actually held by Dems.

    I know it’s a small detail, but the fact is wes confirmed exactly what I said while pretending not to.

  88. NYCmike says:

    “I know it’s a small detail, but the fact is wes confirmed exactly what I said while pretending not to.”

    -Wes had to make sure his November 2018 narrative of Trump defeat was the main point.

  89. jason says:

    ’ll wait for those who REFUSE to put a number on legal immigration per year to opine on these developments.”

    How is Cotton-Perdue coming along?

    Did they vote on it yet?

    Oh wait, maybe it’s being “negotiated”.

    Oh, and for the record, I am against ANY cuts in legal immigration.

    For NYC, who is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, “ANY” means NONE. ZERO. NADA. ZILCH.

    And of course, NYC is lying, Cotton-Perdue proposed deep cuts in legal immigration, “putting a number on it” seems more benign I guess if you are a moron.

  90. Wes says:

    Really, Jason. I thought Martians held those open seats.

    I’m not sure how great it was for Republicans to pick up two House seats while losing two House seats in the same state while taking it on the chin in every other facet of local politics.

  91. NYCmike says:

    “Oh, and for the record, I am against ANY cuts in legal immigration.”

    -Do you see the word “cuts” anywhere in my comment?

    What is your number?

    1 million?
    1.5 million?
    2 million?
    5 million?
    10 million?

    Is there ever a time when the United States is able to say “Let’s get everyone assimilated, then we can start welcoming immigrants again.”?

    OR, is America ALWAYS supposed to have its borders open for new immigrants, no matter what situation we are in?

  92. NYCmike says:

    I didn’t mention “cuts”.
    I haven’t mentioned Cotton-Perdue in what, almost 2 years?

    IF I lied about Cotton-Perdue, please show me the comment where I did so.

    I’ll say it now – you won’t find it. I NEVER denied their number was more than a 50% cut. My support of their approach, as I stated many times, was not because of that number. IN FACT, as jason alluded to, to me that number was clearly negotiable………over 2 years later, I am still trying to find out the upper number for the folks who would vote against Cotton-Perdue.

  93. NYCmike says:

    Still waitin’………..

  94. NYCmike says:

    “Really, Jason. I thought Martians held those open seats.”

    -They did go for Mondale in 1984……

  95. jason says:

    Do you see the word “cuts” anywhere in my comment?”

    I see.

    So I guess you now oppose Cotton-Perdue which does exactly that.

    Well, better late than never.

  96. jason says:

    “to me that number was clearly negotiable…”

    LOL…”to me”

    I have yet to see the authors of the bill say anything about “negotiable”. They propose 50% cut in LEGAL immigration, what is negotiable, 40%. 30%?

    In any case a cut is a cut, if you don’t believe there should be cuts in legal immigration you should not support this joke of a bill that even the R caucus doesn’t support.

  97. jason says:

    F I lied about Cotton-Perdue, please show me the comment where I did so.”

    You are lying because you are pretending that somehow this is about “setting a number”, when it isn’t.

    Cotton Perdue is about CUTTING legal immigration.

  98. NYCmike says:

    What is your upper limit?

    Stop the Cotton-Perdue distraction b*llsh*t and say your number, and answer the questions I posed.

    I am not arguing about Cotton-Perdue. You are the only one, and you are doing it to deflect from answering the questions posed.

    What is your number?

    1 million?
    1.5 million?
    2 million?
    5 million?
    10 million?

    Is there ever a time when the United States is able to say “Let’s get everyone assimilated, then we can start welcoming immigrants again.”?

    OR, is America ALWAYS supposed to have its borders open for new immigrants, no matter what situation we are in?

  99. dblaikie says:

    I would like to mention a poll that sort of went under the radar screen with all the stuff going on politically. A MRG poll only has James behind Peters by 3 points — 43 to 40. First the race is within the margin of error, but more importantly at 43 Peters is in deep, deep trouble as an incumbent. At the very least the Michigan race is a toss up, at best with that low reelect number for an incumbent Michigan leans Republican for a pick-up.

  100. jason says:

    I’m not sure how great it was for Republicans to pick up two House seats while losing two House seats in the same state”

    Did I say it was great?

    I said in the House, MN was one of the few states where Rs held their own in congressional races, picking up two Dem seats.

    May not be great, but it wasn’t massacred either.

  101. jason says:

    What is your number?

    1 million?
    1.5 million?
    2 million?
    5 million?
    10 million?”

    I think legal immigration should be expanded, not cut.

    GFY.

  102. jason says:

    James behind Peters”

    Maybe James is happy it is not Peters behind James.

  103. NYCmike says:

    “I think legal immigration should be expanded, not cut.”

    -Please replace the word “think” with “believe”, as you obviously haven’t thought about it at all, if you are unable to put a number on the maximum number per year you think is safe.

  104. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Since it is Romney, I don’t think he understands French or Latin.”

    Romney spent two years as a missionary in France, so knows the language well. It is why he used a French name.

    “Mike Huckabee mentioned today that only ‘kids, cowards or perverts have fake twitter accounts’.”

    Totally agree. It is the act of a man who is afraid to state what he truly believes, but is putting on an act. Believe people sensed this in 2012 and it was a factor in his loss. Likewise, he faced turbulence when he ran for senator in Utah, because it was felt he was not a good fit for the state. The reason Romney is constantly claiming to reflect “Utah Values” is because he is not a real Utahn.

  105. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I don’t want to be too critical of Romney, he did an incredible job of running the Utah Olympics in 2002. Romney turned what was becoming a scandal ridden fiasco into an outstanding Olympics. He was brilliant, and strong hands on leader. In one instance he drove to the location of a traffic backup, and berated the workers who caused it in salty words that would make Brigham Young proud. If he could get rid of his sanctimonious demeanor, and be the person he was during the Olympics, he would do much better politically.

  106. NYCmike says:

    ” It is the act of a man who is afraid to state what he truly believes, but is putting on an act. Believe people sensed this in 2012 and it was a factor in his loss.”

    -No doubt.

    I definitely thought he was the better choice between him and Obama……..I know many others that stayed home instead of voting for him.

  107. NYCmike says:

    “He was brilliant, and strong hands on leader.”

    -Which is why I thought he would have been a better President than Obama.

    Please note: check out the Central Park ice skating rink boondoggle…….another person with leadership abilities who has made for a better President than anything a Democrat could offer.

  108. jason says:

    Since it is Romney, I don’t think he understands French or Latin.”

    Romney spent two years as a missionary in France,”

    Hey SD, are you playing straight man for Wobbles?

  109. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    117. I was using him as a foil to answer a question that is being asked a lot; why did Romney use a French fake name?

  110. jason says:

    I don’t want to be too critical of Romney,”

    I do.

    He thinks the far leftists and the MSM are his friends. A Republican senator from Utah kissing the ass complete sleaze ball like Schiff.

    I am sure Schiff despises Romney, he is just useful idiot that will be discarded as soon as he is not longer a benefit to the cause.

    The Olympics were a long time ago. Romney is now Delightful Peter.

  111. jason says:

    Delecto is Latin. And Romney started with Peter, not Pierre. Pierre is being clever, not being French.

    It really would not surprise me that he was inspired by Carlos Danger.

  112. jason says:

    Trump similar to the 3rd Reich?

    Robbie, “CG”?”

    I am sure they are onboard.

    The ends justify the means.

  113. jason says:

    Please replace the word “think” with “believe”, as you obviously haven’t thought about it at all, if you are unable to put a number on the maximum number per year you think is safe.”

    Ok, I am comfortable with doubling the amount of legal immigrants, say from 2017 which was 1.1 million.

    Category FY 2017
    Family and Immediate Relatives 748,746

    Employment
    137,855
    Refugees and Asylees 146,003
    Diversity and Other 94,563

    Total Visas Issued
    1,127,167

    I think 2 million LEGAL immigrants would be great.

    What is your number?

  114. jason says:

    Tina to take Goober off the RINO list.

    Well, until next week maybe.

    “After spending a week railing against President Trump’s decision to pull U.S. troops out of northern Syria, abandoning America’s Kurdish allies and opening the door for Turkey’s deadly invasion, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said on Sunday that he now supports the move.”

  115. jason says:

    What is sad is that Goober knows better.

  116. NYCmike says:

    “What is your number?”

    -2 million would be fine, if the system was able to handle all of them properly, and assimilation was still the goal. We aren’t there.

    ZERO could also be an option, if the system is shown to be totally broken down. We aren’t there, either.

    500,000 – 1.1 million = acceptable number, knowing that it isn’t a full blown sheotshow right now, but mindful that there are many issues with the current system.

  117. NYCmike says:

    “What is sad is that Goober knows better.”

    -OR, there is more information available to our political leadership, and he has adjusted his opinion.

  118. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It appears that Trump changed his position, likely in part because of the opposition to the original policy of complete withdraw by Senator Graham and other Republicans. I am fine with the new policy, and want compliment Graham for his leadership. Actually, I don’t think Trump had a previous position, and created one as the crisis evolved.

    For the end the “endless war” crowd. The bottom line is the U.S. is still in Syria, and providing air cover for the Kurds (which we did before). Also we have placed an additional 3,000 troops in Saudi Arabia, and more troops in Iraq. Rather than withdraw, we have increased our military commitment.

    Trump often winds up doing the right thing for the wrong reasons, or for no reason at all.

  119. Tina says:

    What was the position change?

    I must have missed it.

    It seems like goober spoke to trump (they are golfing partners) and goober changes his opinion, I think I posted his entire interview way at top.

    If goober is pacified great,

    But goober can still do subpoenas? That is my Biggest complaint

  120. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    128. Whatever happened to the stop “endless wars” by bring all our troops home from the Mideaast rhetoric? We have now increased our military present.

  121. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is a Graham’s summary of what happened:

    “Graham said Trump was prepared to use U.S. air power over a demilitarized zone occupied by international forces, adding that the use of air power could help ensure Islamic State fighters who had been held in the area did not “break out.”
    Senator Jim Inhofe, a Republican who chairs the Senate Armed Services Committee, said on Saturday that Trump understood the need for the United States to maintain air power in the region.
    “The U.S. must retain air power to keep the pressure on ISIS, prevent our adversaries Russia and Iran from exploiting this situation and protect our partners on the ground,” he said in a statement. ISIS is an acronym for Islamic State.
    Graham also said he believed the United States and Kurdish forces long allied with Washington could establish a venture to modernize Syrian oil fields, with the revenue flowing to the Kurds. “President Trump is thinking outside the box,” Graham said of Trump’s thinking on oil.
    “The president appreciates what the Kurds have done,” Graham added. “He wants to make sure ISIS does not come back. I expect we will continue to partner with the Kurds in eastern Syria to make sure ISIS does not re-emerge.”

  122. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @realDonaldTrump Oct 20 “The ceasefire is holding up very nicely. There are some minor skirmishes that have ended quickly. New areas being resettled with Kurds. U.S. soldiers are not in combat or ceasefire zone. We have secured the Oil.” Mark Esper, Secretary of Defense. Ending endless wars!”

    The Kurds in Iraq derive a huge part of their income from oil. Looks like the Syrian Kurds might be going into the oil business as well. When ISIS ran that area of Syria, Turkey used to buy ISIS oil.

  123. Tina says:

    Air power from Iraq Into Syria

    This is consistent with what trump said previously and what is in the 2018 nsc.

  124. Tina says:

    Trump said the United States would remain in Iraq, adding, “In fact, we could use this as the base if we wanted to do something in Syria.”

    This is from 12/18, almost a year ago.

    Tee up,never mentioned an end to all me wars either.

    Referenced pulling out of Syria and ending Afghanistan.

  125. Tina says:

    Trump just said in his cabinet meeting that Schiff is the gossip blower.

  126. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    133. Here is an interview with Senator Graham. It states where we are going now.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/10/20/lindsey_graham_after_talking_to_trump_about_syria_im_increasingly_optimistic_this_could_turn_out_very_well.html

    If you want to claim that Trump’s flip-flops are based on a consistent policy, you have every right to do so. Don’t let the facts confuse you.

    My hunch is that Saudi Arabia is likely involved heavily now in support of the Kurds.

  127. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Trump should have this Ralph Waldo Emerson quote on the wall behind his desk. There are times it is applicable (and times it is not):

    “A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds. A great person does not have to think consistently from one day to the next.”

  128. Tina says:

    I already posted Graham’s interview yesterday, way at top of this thread.

    Goober was u hinged until Saturday,

    Made some sense yesterday.

  129. Tina says:

    Pierre Derelicto has mental issues.

    Thankfully, trump never offered him the sos position.

    494

    TrumpSoldier
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    Rush Buries Romney – Pierre Delecto Is Very Jealous of Donald Trump

  130. CG says:

    Where is the backup for the claim that Pierre Delecto ever Tweeted something about Adam Schiff or mocked conservatives in any way?

    “Pierre” Tweeted a grand total of 10 times, going back to 2011, and nothing at all inconsistent with what Romney would have been saying publicly.

    I imagine that just about every politician and campaign does this on Twitter.

    In an interview Romney admitted having a “lurker account” and seemed proud of it and he discussed who he was following on it, etc. When someone found out the name of the account, he admitted it. Seems like a non-story.

    But how many of you have forgotten Donald Trump’s several alter egos, including “John Barron?” Trump would pretend to be his own publicist and call up reporters (who recognized his voice and recorded the calls) bragging about how many women Trump was sleeping with or who wanted to sleep with him. These audiotapes were played publicly many times.’

    In the ’90s, while under oath, Trump admitted to doing this. When this came up during the 2016 campaign, he lied and said it wasn’t him.

  131. jason says:

    Where is the backup for the claim that Pierre Delecto ever Tweeted something about Adam Schiff or mocked conservatives in any way?

    There is a screen shot, I ssw it mysel, GFY.

    Btw, here about the guy Scumbagg Romney likes..

    Where is the backup for the claim that Pierre Delecto ever Tweeted something about Adam Schiff or mocked conservatives in any way?

  132. CG says:

    Let’s see the source

  133. jason says:

    “In a little-noticed development on Friday, all nine GOP members of the House Intelligence Committee sent a scathing letter to Democratic Chairman Adam Schiff, accusing him of withholding pertinent information and conducting impeachment-related business in a “highly irregular manner.”

  134. CG says:

    There were ten Tweets on the account and they all seem to be mentioned in the Slate story

    One Tweet was to defend Chairman Burr against claims he might be unfair on an investigation

    One Tweet was to Jennifer Rubin asking her to calm down on impeachment until the transcript was seen.

  135. CG says:

    Let’s see this “screenshot” and where it comes from.

    Remember how badly you were taken (for hours) on your inability to accurately read a story about Quincy Jones.

  136. jason says:

    Sure..

    https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/10/21/someone-found-mitt-romneys-secret-twitter-account-hes-basically-crazy-resistance-uncle/

    The screen shots are there.

    Not only Schiff, but Cris Murphy, Anna Navarro, David Axelrod.

    Romney is a scumbag.

  137. CG says:

    A third of the 10 Tweets was to Fox News asking why they didn’t have a NH poll online that showed Trump in the lead.

    Sounds like something Tina would demanded.

  138. Tina says:

    I do t use twitter.

    If I had twitter, I won’t post under my name since ima, not a pedo, a criminal, a psycho, or a child.

    Quittens could easily fit one or more.

  139. CG says:

    I can’t access Twitter entries here.

    So, they are not things he Tweeted? These are things he “liked.” (which on Twitter is not the same always as agreed with)

    Things other people said… ZZZZ

    I’d like a lot of Ana Navarro’s Tweets as well. Good for him.

    What specifically did he “like” regarding something related to Schiff?

    He was probably right to “like” it.

  140. jason says:

    Let’s see this “screenshot” and where it comes from.”

    Ah yes, because the screen shot was published in Red State it can’t be true.

    Zzzzzz…..

  141. Tina says:

    Would post not owls to post (using my name).

    Quittens is a psycho and got caught.

  142. jason says:

    He was probably right to “like” it.”

    Ahhh, goal posts have moved.

    LOL

  143. Tina says:

    Pedos often use lurker accounts, like quitten.

  144. CG says:

    Someone please copy and paste the offending Tweet that he “liked?”

  145. jason says:

    So, they are not things he Tweeted? These are things he “liked.”

    Wow, goal posts moving past

    Did I ever say they were his tweets.

    Or did I say

    jason says:
    October 21, 2019 at 12:21 pm

    “And if you had doubts about Romney being a scumbag, put those to rest to.

    His account if full of likes for comments from Schiff and other moonbats.”

  146. CG says:

    But Trump pretending to be a fake publicist to talk about his fantasy sex life and try to get it in the newspaper was totally normal.

    There’s nothing “pedo” about talking about politics on Twitter.

  147. CG says:

    Please copy and paste the Tweets he “liked” that he was wrong to like.

    In the meantime, the sitting POTUS has many times actually re-Tweeted white nationalists/white supremacists/conspiracy theorists, and when he does, it is greeted here by a zzzzz.

  148. jason says:

    So if he “likes” Schiff’s comments, why doesn’t he have the balls to do it under his own name.

    He doesn’t. Same reason he doesn’t have the balls to run against Trump.

    He is a spineless, despicable MSM toadie who sold his principles out for a little temporary adulation from those that destroyed his candidacy with lies and falsehoods.

    Schiff is probably laughing his ass off at what a moron Romney is for thinking Schiff is his friend.

  149. jason says:

    Corey endorsed a racist bigot who contrary to Trump, actually has ties to anti-semites and white nationalists.

    Now his excuse for Romney is that “Trump does it too”?

    Corey loves to dig deeper into the fetid cesspool of the Never Trumpers.

  150. CG says:

    I don’t think he said anything as Carlos that he would not say publicly.

    You are the last one to talk considering how many sock puppets and parody accounts you use for this small community.

    And whatever he “liked” on Twitter that might have been anti-Trump was nowhere near as harsh as you were on Trump when you repeatedly called him a “fascist” a “Klansman”, a “racist” and a “con-man.”

    What specifically did he like on Twitter that he was wrong to “like?” These were not even Re-Tweets or “Favorites” just “likes.” Please copy and paste the offending Tweet.

  151. CG says:

    Joe Walsh apologized for past rhetoric that could be construed as racist bigotry.

    jason apologized for formerly being offended by racist bigotry. Now, he knows he has to be on the same team as them in order to fight “socialism.”

  152. CG says:

    “Pierre” not “Carlos.”

    Dammit, Tina.

  153. CG says:

    Whatever Pierre “liked” about Schiff. (Don’t even know if it was pro or con), he was probably right to like it.

    And if he was liking comments by George Conway, he has great taste.

  154. jason says:

    Btw, many of the tweets Romney liked are there in th article I posted, including one for Schiff.

  155. CG says:

    I can’t open them here. Work filter for Twitter.

    You could very easily cut and paste them but you recognize it would hurt your cause if I saw the actual Tweets.

  156. CG says:

    Was it “one Tweet” he liked about Schiff as you just said or was his account “full of them” as you claimed previously?

  157. jason says:

    He liked a personal attack Schiff made on Trump

    “I’m always flattered when I’m attacked by someone of your character”

    I am sure he would not like on his personal account.

    Scumbag.

  158. CG says:

    Good, Schiff he was right and Mitt/Pierre was right to like it.

    Trump has no character.

  159. CG says:

    Mitt made a whole speech in 2016 saying that about Trump. It was widely covered. So, it’s not a secret he felt that way. You applauded him at the time and then went much further in saying how horrible Trump was.

  160. jason says:

    You can see if when you get home from work.

    I don’t really know how to past the screen shot, but I can paste the comment.

    I linked the article here, so obviously I don’t care if anyone saw the actual tweets.

    He also likes one where Axelrod defends Pelosi.

  161. CG says:

    Yeah, you can very easily cut and paste the words.

    When I get to a different computer, I can determine if you lied in doing so or not.

    But it’s not like he was secretly siding with Adam Schiff on some policy matter. Trump is the one more likely to be doing that.

  162. CG says:

    Axelrod defended Pelosi?

    Trump himself Tweeted that Pelosi was not a racist and that AOC was wrong to suggest he was.

    Trump has in the past Tweeted many complimentary things about Pelosi and said them publicly.

    That you were ok with though.

    Hypocrite.

  163. CG says:

    Imagine if HHR had “likes”

    I could “like” a post of jason calling NYC a moron, but it doesn’t mean that I “like” jason personally.

    I could “like” a post of NYC calling jason a liar and I would be right to do so as well.

    Then there’s the whole Bitterlaw vs. Wes feud.

  164. Tina says:

    Imagine if her had likes.

    I would fill it with “likes”. For Hillary.

    Jebot

  165. jason says:

    “was it “one Tweet” he liked about Schiff as you just said or was his account “full of them” as you claimed previously?”

    LOL, goalposts still moving. Now it was “only one tweet”.

    Sorry, here is what I wrote

    “His account if full of likes for comments from Schiff and other moonbats.”

    I don’t have all the likes, only the ones posted in the article.

    David Axelrod, Schiff, Cris Murphy, Anna , Navarro, Jeff Greenfield, Conway, McMullin, Kristol…

    About Molly Jong-Fast, the rabid pro-abortinist.

    I think this explains it best, the only thing I don’t agree is kicking Romney out of the party. I hope he loses his bid for re-election instead.

    “There’s also one like mixed in there that should bother Republicans on a more serious level, namely that he’s high-fiving Molly Jong-Fast, a rabid pro-abortionist who went to CPAC and mocked pro-lifers for The Bulwark. Nice work Senator.

    I’ll say it again. Romney is a political coward. He’s always right there to tweet at Donald Trump and express his grave moral outrage at other Republicans because there’s no risk. But he never says a word about any Democrat that steps out of line. Heck, he’s too busy liking their rantings with his burner account.

    What this should show everyone is that this is just a game to Romney. There’s no principle behind anything this flip-flopping, Roe supporting “conservative” does. He vomits about character all the time and then goes around back-slapping some of the worst people on the left without any sense of irony. Anyone that tries to push this guy in 2024 as a viable candidate needs to be summarily cast out of the party.”

  166. Tina says:

    Mullah Merkel is hideous. No wonder Mute 43 rubbed swamps shoulders.

    Larry Schweikart
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    @LarrySchweikart
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    BBC News – Merkel says German multicultural society has failed https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11559451

    Hmm. I wonder what her first clue was?

  167. jason says:

    Axelrod defended Pelosi?”

    Corey digs a deeper hole.

    Of course Axelrod defends Pelosi.

    But why would Romney like Axelrod defending Pelosi?

  168. Tina says:

    The vote to censure Russian Schiff is tonite.

    Let’s see if Rs have nuts or not.

  169. jason says:

    Mullah Merkel?

    Dang, she would get some mega point if she was an A-hole.

  170. CG says:

    I’d have to see the Tweet in question. There is no doubt that Romney is Pro-Life. I’ve never heard of Molly Jong-Fast. I know there is a lot of weirdness at CPAC in recent years.

    jason, who is openly pro-choice and said that he wanted Trump to nominate a justice that would pledge to uphold Roe v. Wade is a complete hypocrite as usual.

    The idea that if he ever agrees with or “likes” something said by a Democrat is some sort of sin is nuts considering how Donald Trump’s track record gets laughed off and how he has as President sided with Democrats over Republicans on some matters.

    And again, good for him for following Navarro, George Conway, McMullin, and Kristol.

  171. jason says:

    Let’s see if Rs have nuts or not.”

    Romney probably making calls to Rs in the House, don’t censure my friend.

  172. CG says:

    What was Axelrod defending Pelosi on specifically? It should be easy for you to explain it in a few words.

  173. CG says:

    What in the world would Schiff be censured for?

    He made up a narrative (and expressed it as such) for dramatic purpose (and took political hits for it). Trump has done this every day of his political life. His apologists suddenly see this as a problem?

  174. jason says:

    jason, who is openly pro-choice and said that he wanted Trump to nominate a justice that would pledge to uphold Roe v. Wade is a complete hypocrite as usual.”

    Why am I a hypocrite. I am pro choice first trimester, against partial birth abortion.

    What is hypocritical is for Romney to pretend he is pro-life while liking Molly Jong-Fast.

  175. Tina says:

    Good one, don’t censure my friend.

    He is an honest broker.

    The socialist son speaks highly of him.

  176. NYCmike says:

    If Pierre Delecto means “Delightful Peter”, I could understand “CG”‘s defense of his “staff”.

  177. jason says:

    What in the world would Schiff be censured for?”

    Wow.

    I think that is the end of this discussion.

    Like I said, politics sure makes strange bedfellows.

  178. Tina says:

    Crack finds crack pipe.

    What in the world would Schiff be censured for?”

  179. NYCmike says:

    “CG” could be worse off than Robbie, just sayin’.

    Obviously, as the link about Warren/Israel shows, he is willing to throw Israel under the bus in order to defeat Trump.

  180. CG says:

    Did he like a Tweet or hers? I never heard of her. I doubt Romney was following her on Twitter.

    Was he making a point about something that happened in CPAC that made conservatives look bad?Seems more like a case of “both can be true.”

  181. Tina says:

    Attempting to get neeked pics of trump from Russians.

    Friend of Ed Buck.

    Schiff’s Shady Record:
    – Fake collusion evidence claims
    – Fabricated call transcript
    – Secret dealings w/ the whistleblower

  182. CG says:

    I’m not voting for Warren.

  183. CG says:

    Schiff literally did nothing that Trump does not do all the time.

    Censure both then.

    If both resign, it will be appropriate.

  184. CG says:

    “If Pierre Delecto means “Delightful Peter”, I could understand “CG”‘s defense of his “staff”.

    Thank you Senator Sheldon Whitehouse.

  185. Tina says:

    They are getting really really really close..

    EXCLUSIVE: Internet Abuzz – Schiff’s Ukrainian Hoax Linked to Members of Obama’s NSC Including Eric Ciaramella and Charles Kupchan https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/10/exclusive-internet-abuzz-schiffs-ukrainian-hoax-linked-to-members-of-obamas-nsc-including-eric-ciaramella-and-charles-kupchan/ … via @gatewaypundit

  186. jason says:

    Corey defends Schiff, says he is like Trump.

    LOL

  187. Tina says:

    If pm blackface wins, will he lose an eyebrow giving his speech?

  188. jason says:

    Let me translate here.

    It’s ok for Schiff to be like Trump, it’s not ok for Trump to be like Trump.

    Hope it’s clear now.

  189. CG says:

    Neither should be like Trump but Schiff at least made it clear off the bat that he was going to be like Trump.

    Maybe he should have said that Trump’s father killed JFK.

  190. jason says:

    Let’s see if the polls are underestimating the conservative vote in Canada.

    It looks like their “RCP average” is Liberals 32 and conservatives 32.

  191. Tina says:

    Uh Schiffty actively sought the help of Russians.

    Fuhrer Mulehead should have investigated that, if he was napping and having trouble opening his car door.

  192. Tina says:

    Or Mukehead could have dispatched Benito Weissarse or Jeanine Commie Rhee.

  193. jason says:

    Two Corey comments

    “Schiff at least made it clear off the bat that he was going to be like Trump”

    So Schiff is like Trump. Ok

    But then:

    What in the world would Schiff be censured for?”

    So Schiff should not be censured for being like Trump, but Trump should be censured for being like Trump.

    Got it.

    Now, back to Canada election.

  194. jason says:

    John Kerry:

    Touché, Senateur!”

    Kerry likes Romney’s likes of leftwing moonbats.

    What a surprise.

  195. NYCmike says:

    “I’m not voting for Warren.”

    -You have said on this forum that you are attempting to dissuade family members from voting FOR Trump…….which means his opponent will benefit.

  196. Phil says:

    Romney and Kerry birds of a feather.

    Shocker

  197. jason says:

    What in the world would Schiff be censured for?”

    I have to admit it is hard to surprise me here, but Corey gets kudos for doing it.

  198. jason says:

    Exits in Canada say it could go either way.

  199. jason says:

    Trudeau at 83% on Predictit.

    Of course, Hillary was doing better than that at 7 PM in 2016.

  200. Tina says:

    Very strange that a “Republican” supports:

    Schiffty

    Her Thighness.

    Makes you go hmmm ..

  201. jason says:

    So far the libs are -4 seats and the conservatives +3

  202. NYCmike says:

    What did Lord Arsehat say about the Exit Polls?

  203. Bitterlaw says:

    Feeling very down today. In regard to the number I would accept for LEGAL immigration, I would accept 1 million more than the current total. I think Jason put that at 2 million. Works for me.

  204. lisab says:

    Feeling very down today. I
    =================

    don’t worry, i am here for you 🙂

  205. jason says:

    Lord Arsehat said Warren is doing well in the Inuit areas.

  206. NYCmike says:

    Liz Cheney is Trumpoglyte!

  207. jason says:

    I feel bad for Bitter. No job and the Eagles lost to the Cowboys. Plus no flower festival for months. However, some a-hole saved money with Geico, there is that.

  208. lisab says:

    spicer stayed on dwts

    christy brinkley’s daughter sent home

    trump voters

  209. Bitterlaw says:

    NT

    The Eagles beat the Packers in Lambeau but get crushed in Dallas. Makes no sense.

  210. lisab says:

    christy brinkley’s daughter, got 9 9 9 for scores

    telephone voters saved spicer

  211. lisab says:

    tough game for the patriots today