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    Trump Trails Biden and Warren in FL

    We had a new poll from the University of North Florida today that shows Donald Trump trailing both Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren.

    Joe Biden (D) 48%
    Donald Trump (R-inc) 43%

    Elizabeth Warren (D) 46%
    Donald Trump (R-inc) 43%

    Donald Trump (R-inc) 44%
    Kamala Harris (D) 41$

    Donald Trump (R-inc) 43%
    Pete Buttigieg (D) 42%

    Joe Biden (D) 49%
    Mike Pence (R) 38%

    Elizabeth Warren (D) 46%
    Mike Pence (R) 40%

    Interesting that Bernie Sanders was not included at all. This poll was done October 14-20 among 669 registered voters.

    When Donald Trump is paired against Joe Biden, 43% of respondents indicated they would vote for Trump and 48% indicated a vote for Biden. When paired against Elizabeth Warren, Trump had 43% while Warren had 46%. Against Kamala Harris, 44% indicated a vote for Trump and 41% a vote for Harris. Lastly, Trump had 43% of the vote when paired against Pete Buttigieg, who had 42%.

    Posted by Dave at 11:04 pm
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    306 Responses to “Trump Trails Biden and Warren in FL”

    1. VictrC says:

      First Baby

    2. VictrC says:

      IF the election were today Trump wins Florida. Against all three of these candidates.

    3. VictrC says:

      Democratic presidential hopeful Pete Buttigieg said over the weekend that he would consider using American military aid to “leverage” Israel to change its policies toward the Palestinians.

      Wait….arent they trying to impeach Trump for exactly the same thing?

    4. Victrc says:

      It should be noted that UNF had, in their final poll desantis at 43%….he won the race with 49.6%.

      Just for information and perspective

    5. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      3. Romney’s popularity may be down. But the Y2 analytics survey is not a poll, its a survey of a previously selected group of voters. It respondents tend to be much more liberal than the voters of the state.

      Here is an explanation how they do their survey.

      “The surveys are administered to a sample of active registered voters in Utah taken from the publicly-available registered Voter File. An equal proportion of residents are sampled from each congressional district. We work with a third-party vendor to match the names of registered voters to email addresses. The overall response rate for the surveys after accounting for bounced or otherwise invalid email addresses is reported in the Survey Response Rate section within each report’s topline. Our panelists receive an email invitation and two reminders to participate in the survey from Y2 Analytics.”

    6. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      3. The same Utah Policy Y2 Analytics poll also claims that Mike Lee’s approval level is at 43%, and 47% don’t approve. He gets this low approval rating despite 72% approval among Republicans, who dominate the state. It gives you a good idea of the politics of its survey panel. The University of Utah, which the Hinckley Institute of Politics is affiliated, is extremely liberal — its California style liberalism.

    7. Bitterlaw says:

      4 Not the same thing. Using leverage to influence policy is ok. Using leverage to take down a political rival is not ok. Neither is an impeachable offense in my opinion.

      Tina to call me a Jebot in 3…2…1…

    8. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      Compare this just-released Quinnipiac Poll with the Zogby and Emerson polls.
      The Quinn poll has Pelosi’s approval/ disapproval at 45%/47% with Indies at +2 in approval.It has the President underwater with Indies by 30% and an overall approval/ disapproval at -20(38/58).
      Has the Quinn Poll ever found a so-called Independent that supports a Republican candidate or GOP policy?


    9. Wes says:

      The UT poll has all Republicans down and all Dems up in the state. I wouldn’t exactly cite it as a way to say Romney is hurting himself by attacking Trump. If accurate, (it’s not) the poll would indicate Trump is dragging down the entire UTGOP.

    10. Bitterlaw says:

      On October 23, 1993, Joe Carter tipped out my heart. The 1993 Phillies were my favorite team even if they did not win it all. They played hard, had fun and drank a lot of beer. No sports science smoothies or conditioning for them.

    11. Victrc says:

      In Utah they are unfortunately also feeling the California effect. Like a virus that has infected Washington, Oregon, New Mexico, Nevada and Arizona, Californians who voted for extremist policies have fled when they have felt the direct results of the policies and gone to states where economies were booming and housing prices cheap, better schools.

      Yet it is killing these states and soon they will be high tax, low moral standard states, where people will have to flee to escape the policies they, knowing the future effects, still implemented.

    12. Tina says:

      Looks like Taylor’s testimony was a flop.

      He knows nothing.

      Saw nothing,

      Was out of the loop.

      Disagree with the president on foreign policy, if so, run for President,

    13. Tina says:

      Looks like China Biden apologized for using political lynching in 1998.

      But he blames trump.

      He is weak and he is becoming more and more like Flub.

    14. Wes says:

      On RRH is a new poll saying Reeves leads Hood narrowly. I can buy that:


    15. Hugh says:

      Biden up 10 points now for nomination in cnn poll. Look who the so called pollsters called.

      The CNN Poll was conducted from October 17-20 by SSRS of 1,003 adults, 424 registered voters who identified as Democrats or Democratic-leaning independents. The margin of error among potential Democrat voters is +/- 5.8 points.

    16. Robbie says:

      Ryan Browne

      Kremlin spokesman on recent US actions in Syria: “The United States has been the closest ally of the Kurds in the past few years but the States abandoned the Kurds and, in fact, betrayed them.”

      – Thank you, President Trump!

    17. Robbie says:

      Tina says:
      October 23, 2019 at 9:40 am
      Looks like Taylor’s testimony was a flop.
      He knows nothing.
      Saw nothing,
      Was out of the loop.
      Disagree with the president on foreign policy, if so, run for President,

      – Bless your heart.

    18. Robbie says:

      Remember, Trumpers. Things will only get worse. There is no better version of Trump. He will force you to defend the indefensible and you’ll get nothing from it but more frustration and pain. Pretty soon, MAGA will require you to argue a quid pro quo is akshully a good thing and abuse of power is not a crime as the former hot tub salesman Matt Whitaker argued on Laura Ingraham’s howl at the moon hour last night.

      Trump’s flailing and he’s sinking in the polls. Support for removal from office now polls at 50% in the 538 tabulation and Republican Senators are already starting to see their own polling suffer because of Trump’s problems. Gardner is toast, McSally isn’t in much better shape, Tillis is sagging, and even Ernst now sees her own support sliding. The Senate is play.

      I don’t often agree with Erick Erickson, but I think he’s right on this point. If McConnell sees his Senate majority going under because of Trump’s problems, he won’t hesitate to cut him loose. In fact, we may have seen the first instance of that yesterday when McConnell said he never had a conversation with Trump saying his call with Ukraine was perfect.

      Trump’s almost certainly not going to win a second term. Pence, Haley and a few other can win next year against any Democrat, though. At some point, Trumpers will have to decide whether they want to continue to support Trump knowing he’ll almost certainly lose, or back someone else who has a very good chance of winning.

    19. Robbie says:

      Catherine Kim

      Impeachment, meet government shutdown.
      nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/will-trump-shut-down-government-fight-impeachment-n1070106… via

      – I’m not sure NYCmike could contain his joy at the thought of another government shutdown in the midst of impeachment. I’m sure this is just the way for Trump to bounce back in the polls. Shut down the government.

    20. Phil says:

      How about Romney, Robbie?

    21. jason says:

      Poor Amoral Scumbag…

      His latest cheap little coup will fail too.

      But of course we could still have a brokered convention.

    22. dblaikie says:

      Robbie cracks me up. First he simply just regurgitates what MSNBC reports and expects us to be swayed by this partisan nonsense. He expects us to simply ignore the naked, unjust partisan propaganda getting spoon fed to the media and thinks we are going to believe it.

      In response I would like to offer one fact concerning his viewpoint. If Mitch the turtle turns on Trump he will lose his seat in Kentucky. That is just the truth.

    23. jason says:

      I don’t often agree with Erick Erickson,”

      Zzzzzz… .you would agree with Adolf Hitler and sell your mother into sexual bondage if somehow you thought it was bad for Trump.

    24. Tina says:

      Radcliffe is reported to have destroyed Taylor.

      House Rs in the farce hearings were quite happy.

    25. jason says:

      “Robbie cracks me up. First he simply just regurgitates what MSNBC reports”

      Let’s be fair to Amoral Scumbag.

      He did quote the “Kremlin spokesman”

    26. Tina says:

      Forget Pierre Quittens, how about Porn Lawyah?

    27. VictrC says:

      dbl — youre 100% correct. If the Senate were to ever “convict” Trump they wouldn’t just lose the Senate, they would be decimated.

      The Never trumpers are insane if they think they would be “saving” the party, they would be insuring its final demise. What are the estimates on the losses in the Senate 8 seats? 10 Seats? and the House??

      It’s as if they don’t realize that 65million Americans voted for Trump and more will vote for him in 2020 than they did in 2016.

    28. jason says:

      When push came to shove, Taylor could not come up with one case of where anyone told him to do any quid pro quo, and when he brought it up, he was specifically told there was none.

      In a non-partisan environment, that would be enough to end this charade. But we don’t live in a non-partisan environment.

    29. Tina says:

      Is lord Arsehat the kremlin spokesman?

    30. dblaikie says:

      In fact all gop senators up for re-election would imperial their prospects if they turned on trump. You have to confront TDS with the simple truth.

    31. Tina says:

      Looks like the house republicans hav derailed the Schiffty fiction this am.

      Testimony delayed.

    32. Phil says:

      So Robbie will support Pence if it were to come to that? Who believes that one? Once Trump was gone he’d begin regurgitating CNN talking points, and he’d be over here screaming Jesus Freak.

    33. Tina says:

      Warren up 15 over China in Ma.

      The hill

    34. VictrC says:

      Jason…you are entirely correct. Any non-partisan would see this as a charade and move on, but when you have the press constantly peddling that Trump is guilty, well you know.

      In my morning reading of Bloomberg they had “article after article, which were actually opinion pieces masquerading as news” which stated over and over again that Trump was guilty and that McConnell was ready to convict (hmmmm sound familiar).

      This is what people are getting spoon fed.

      The sad part is that this is an actual coup d’etat happening in America, not a third world banana republic, and the press is complicit.

    35. Tina says:

      A brave house r member should start releasing the transcript.

      Frankenstein did it, nothing happened to her.

      Schifftys move is illegal.

    36. Tina says:

      Laughing my arse off:

      Bridge 2 Freedom
      · 1h
      Replying to @mitchellvii
      Numerous GOP lawmakers in the hearing said Bill Taylor admitted during testimony his claims were based on hearsay including 2nd, 3rd and even 4th hand accounts. Taylor also admitted he had no direct knowledge of any quid pro quo’s

    37. Tina says:

      This is why the jebots are panicking:

      Here we go:


      Starting to smear the DOJ because they’re looking into the FBI, DOJ and CIA trying to undermine an election.

    38. Paul says:

      40: I agree. Trump’s weaponizing of the DOJ is disgraceful.

    39. Tina says:

      Yes, for now at least, the Schiffty Schiff investigstion has been halted

      Rep. Matt Gaetz
      BREAKING: I led over 30 of my colleagues into the SCIF where Adam Schiff is holding secret impeachment depositions. Still inside – more details to come.

    40. jason says:

      So Robbie will support Pence if it were to come to that?”


      Amoral Scumbag would be here regurgitating every MSM scurrilous attack on Pence from Day 1.

      I can see it now. “Religious zealot” “Extreme Right Winger” you name it.

      Nothing would be too low for him. Never is.

    41. Tina says:

      You should cry to Pete the cheat and the mistress

      Paul says:
      October 23, 2019 at 12:26 pm
      40: I agree. Trump’s weaponizing of the DOJ is disgraceful.

    42. John says:

      Dozens of GOP members of Congress ‘stormed’ three doors to the close-door hearing to protest the impeachment inquiry’ and carrying cell phones to video the interview?
      And we have a little more than a year to go before the 2020 election.
      Time to store up on more popcorn.

    43. jason says:

      I agree. Trump’s weaponizing of the DOJ is disgraceful.”

      But weaponizing Congress with a disgraceful impeachment charade, that is ok.

    44. jason says:

      Some good news.

      Dick’s CEO thinking of running third party.

      Will split the gun grabber vote.

    45. Paul says:

      Amoral scumbag Jason says something dumb about weaponizing Congress. He doesn’t believe in the normal process of congress, I guess because he is really stupid.

    46. Paul says:

      Trump’s stormtroopers being obnoxious. Sounds like Republicans are running scared.

    47. Paul says:

      Tina, the ignorant bitch.

    48. Paul says:

      And Jason, the ignorant dick.

    49. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – Don’t even ask for the points. Paul’s effort was not deserving of the A-hole trophy case.

    50. Paul says:

      I was just testing to see if bitch and dick could get through the blog’s system. Perhaps defenses are down.

    51. Proud Obamacon says:

      ReTHUGS as usual no respect for the rule of law. No respect for the Constitution. Just little children with they temper tantrums while worshipping the Orange Fuhrer.


    52. Tina says:

      Gen Mazloum praises trump and the permanent, case fire. He


      3. President Trump promised to maintain partnership with SDF and long-term support at various spheres.
      95 replies 178 retweets 342 likes
      Reply 95 Retweet 178 Like 342

      Mustafa Bali

      54m54 minutes ago
      2. We THANK President Trump for his tireless efforts that stopped the brutal Turkish attack and jihadist groups on our people.
      258 replies 1,241 retweets 3,262 likes
      Reply 258 Retweet 1.2K Like 3.3K

      Mustafa Bali

      56m56 minutes ago
      1- I just spoke with President Trump and explained to him the Turkish violations of the truce that would not have been possible without his great efforts

    53. Tina says:

      Scif has been taken away from the Commies.

    54. Paul says:

      57: Repuglicans are getting desperate.

    55. Paul says:

      Sgt of arms called in to remove the rethuglicans.

    56. Tina says:

      Goober, you need to start issuing subpoenas.

      Run your version of the house sheot show, publicly.

      You can do it, goober.

    57. Waingro says:

      Good #’s for Trump here in Wisco.


      30m30 minutes ago
      In new poll, 44% of WI voters say Trump should be impeached and removed from office, 51% say he should not be impeached and removed from office. #mulawpoll

    58. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      #58 & 59- Paul and PO
      You guys are pathetic hypocrites unless you denounced in real-time this Democrat sit-in on the House floor!


    59. Tina says:

      Looks like battleground stateds are against. Thought I saw a recent poll on that.

      But go ahead Piglosi.

    60. Tina says:

      Donald J. Trump
      The Never Trumper Republicans, though on respirators with not many left, are in certain ways worse and more dangerous for our Country than the Do Nothing Democrats. Watch out for them, they are human scum!

      10:48 AM – Oct 23, 2019
      Twitter Ads info and privacy

    61. CG says:

      All the points! All the points!

    62. Tina says:


      Italian PM testified to Parliament that he set up the Barr meeting with Italian officials. And that meeting expanded the Durham probe

      (Via Fox News)

    63. Proud Obamacon says:

      Sorry but its finally office, it’s the ReTHUGS who are the enemy of the rule of law.
      They are the enemy of Democracy.
      Enemy of the Constitution.
      And yes, the Enemy of the People.

      All ReTHUGS should be ashamed. It was obvious yall never really believed in Democracy. Now yall don’t even hide it any more. Pathetic.


    64. Phil says:

      Wake me up when we have a true impeachment. Schiff taking secret testimony in the House basement excluding Republicans and not sharing transcripts of that testimony is not impeachment.

      It’s a sham.

    65. Tina says:

      The need to interview the penguin and the commie for potential criminal violations.

      Herridge reporting Italian Prime minister confirmed meeting with Barr and Durham under oath in front of Parliament in August and September- that these meetings were the cause of the expanding investigation and the need to speak with Brennan and Clapper. breaking

    66. Tina says:

      Way to go Louie, keep it up shut Schifty and the Soviets down.

      Congressman Gohmert is still in the SCIF; the following is a message he relayed to staff via secure line: “I am currently in the SCIF with my colleagues, w/out our phones. We plan on staying here until we negotiate a resolution. (1/3)

    67. Tina says:

      I have to pukl away a bit.

      There is a lot of Italian news coming out today regarding Durham and Barr in Italy and criminal violations by the coup plotters.

    68. janz says:

      #50. I didn’t see republicans storming the secret, improperly-run impeachment hearings as being “scared,” but rather frustrated with the Dems inane, obstructive tactics.

    69. NYCmike says:

      “I was just testing to see if bitch and dick could get through the blog’s system.”

      -Once MD left, HAL decided that he wouldn’t bother banning these sophomoric words anymore, as he figured their use would drop precipitously…….he was correct……until you showed up.

    70. NYCmike says:

      “I have to pukl away a bit.”


      Is that what they do in the SCIF?

    71. NYCmike says:

      Rumors around that a brokered Democratic convention will lead to the nomination of………wait for it…….MICHELLE OBAMA!!!

      Robbie & “CG”, your prayers will be answered!

    72. NYCmike says:


      -Just started viewing this, but the first 15 seconds were good enough to share…..especially with our resident #NeverTrumpers!

    73. janz says:

      Lots of FOIA requests finally materializing, mostly by delayed court actions.

      #1. It took only 5 years (asked for in 2014) to get some of the emails and memos – 20,000 pages -requested from the F & F scandal, showing massive cover-ups by the Obama Justice Dept.

      #2. Additional court ordered Clinton emails are coming out, dealing with obscured Benghazi info, misrepresenting how the attack really happened.

      I wonder if or when more details will be revealed about a number of unexplained, under-investigated events that occurred in the Obama Administration, like the IRS targeting abuse.

    74. NYCmike says:

      Trump releases a transcript from a phone call that happened in July.

      It takes 5 years to get Obama’s people to release an email.

      Paul views Trump as an enemy of the American people.

      Paul must not like transparency.

    75. Proud Obamacon says:

      Clinton, Obama, Emails, Benghazi? LOL you can always tell when the ReTHUGs have nothing, they bring up good ole Benghazi and Emails. Just making sure JanZ saw that Hillary was exonerated when it came to emails. You saw that report just a few days ago, right JanZ? LOL

    76. NYCmike says:


      ““We’ve made clear that your leaks will backfire and your sabotage will fail, and we’ll simply implement the policy doubly,” he said. “Not only will you not change the outcome, but the more that you try to leak and disrupt, the more determined the president will be in his course to accomplish that which he was sent here to do,” said Miller.”

      -Great job, Miller!

    77. Proud Obamacon says:

      Orange Fuhrer and his puppy Stephen Miller sic little orange foot soldiers on the legal and constitutional hearing today. More OBSTRUCTION! Add it to the articles of impeachment list. This is too easy. What morons!


    78. janz says:

      PO. Although HRC will probably never be indicted for her misdeeds, she certainly has not been exonerated, except in her own mind!

    79. NYCmike says:

      Release the transcripts = OBSTRUCTION!

    80. janz says:

      NYC, I think it’s a great idea to spread these departments around the country where “real” people live. DC is simply one big bubble of robotic political-thinking.

      I also support the R’s interrupting the impeachment hearings, on a daily basis!

    81. NYCmike says:


      Considering the fact that Republicans (most of them anyway, except for real “conservative” ones like Robbie, “CG” and Max Boot) are fighting to get all of the information out to the voters, I agree with any interruption to those sham proceedings as well.

    82. Paul says:

      Rethuglicans are idiots violating the law and causing disruption. Immature brats who need a lesson in due process.

    83. Paul says:

      PragerU needs to be lynched.

    84. janz says:

      Paul, it’s about time the Republicans are getting into the mix of thwarting deceptive and contemptuous behavior of Democrats, who do nothing but create chaos and division in the country. Bravo for finally putting a stop to their craziness!

    85. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      13. “In Utah they are unfortunately also feeling the California effect. Like a virus that has infected Washington, Oregon, New Mexico, Nevada and Arizona, Californians who voted for extremist policies have fled when they have felt the direct results of the policies and gone to states where economies were booming and housing prices cheap, better schools.”

      See some of it in Utah, but not as much as in other states. The migration into the Utah has declining recently, and the Mormon population has a high birthrate. A lot of people who came were conservative Californians who vote Republican.

      The Democratic vote has stayed about the same in the what is now Romney’s senate seat:

      2006 31.1%
      2012 30.2%
      2018 30.0%

      Salt Lake County has some very liberal areas, and the county is only about 50% Mormon, but fast growing, techie Utah County (85% Mormon) and most the rest of the state is still very conservative.

    86. VictrC says:


      Good to know. I was fearing that it would turn into CA lite as it is an attractive place to live. I used to have an office in Lehi.

    87. Tina says:

      Goober has lost it. Write your stupid resolution, which won’t get past the required number. Goober should be issuing g subpoenas.

      iec ??
      Verified account

      3m3 minutes ago
      BREAKING: Senator Lindsey Graham just slammed the House Freedom Caucus and Matt Gaetz and called them ‘nuts’ for storming the SCIF today. Then he went back to writing strongly-worded letters to the Democrats and preparing for his next TV hit

    88. jason says:

      Corey, Amoral Scumbag and Proud Obamacon have the same talking points.

      No, not a coincidence.

    89. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      96. I have feared the same, and expressed it. But it appears at least for now it is not happening.

      Don’t know how long ago you were in Lehi, but it is urban now. There is a lot of new development on the west side of Utah Lake. Read a prediction that Utah County was growing so fast that it would have the same population as Salt Lake County in the future.

    90. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      95. This ain’t the Utah anymore I grew up in:

      “Lehi (News4Utah2018) – Adobe held a groundbreaking ceremony for the expansion of their Lehi office building Wednesday. The expansion will nearly double their size by adding 160,000 square feet and expected to bring in 1,000 jobs during the next 20 years.”

      “Tech companies in Utah directly and indirectly supported more than one in seven Utah jobs and over one-sixth of a nearly $30 billion state gross domestic product. In-state spending by tech companies and workers also supported nearly 186,000 Utah jobs outside the tech industry, and the tech sector contributed almost 15 percent of the state’s over $20 billion earnings.”

    91. jason says:

      If I was Pence, I would call a news conference and say I want to announce that if the Democrats impeach the President my first act in office will be to pardon him.

      Then we could watch the Dems and the Never Trumpers jump off tall buildings.

    92. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      98. in 98 Mean a reply to 95 and not 96.

    93. NYCmike says:

      Dang – jason is starting to act like a New Yorker!


    94. jason says:

      w that Hillary was exonerated when it came to emails”

      The Proud Marxist Leninist turd is pushing fake news?

      What a surprise.

    95. jason says:

      ang – jason is starting to act like a New Yorker!”

      Bitter wouldn’t give me points earlier today, now he has to come up with a double award. Suck it.

    96. NYCmike says:

      Points? For reaching the Big Leagues of A-Hole-dom…….hey, wait a minute…….

    97. janz says:

      SDC, having lived in CA my entire life I am beyond disappointed how far over the edge their politics have gone.

      Unfortunately, this state also has the tarnished honor of having corrupt election policies, especially dealing with their lenient scrutiny over non-citizens from voting, being the only state where ballot harvesting is legal, no Republican presidential primary, elections based on 2 candidates with the highest votes rather than one from each major party facing each other in the GE – with a weak, almost impotent GOP as the Dems only opposition. With so many obstacles it seems impossible to even dream of anything changing in either the near or distant future.

    98. jason says:


      Sorry, small a a-holes don’t decide points only capitalized A A-holes have that honor.


    99. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      107. Agree, Janz. I have lived half my life in California. Its gone into a tailspin and I think it is going to crash soon. There seems to be no accountability anymore — the public employee unions and extreme leftists run the state. The voters here are like sheep now.

    100. Proud Obamacon says:

      “PO. Although HRC will probably never be indicted for her misdeeds, she certainly has not been exonerated, except in her own mind!”

      Sorry JanZ but you’re wrong. I know you have your head up the Orange Butt, so let me get you up to speed. Actually, I’ll just quote the article “The state department has completed its years-long internal investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of private email and found “no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information”.


      Check and Mate, JanZ. Don’t cry though, you can still bring up emails, Benghazi, whatever to make you feel good with your HHR delusional buddies! LOL


    101. Proud Obamacon says:

      How cute.. Zuckerberg and Orange sittin in a tree…. Zuck has chosen his side. It will not end well for him. Facebook was on the decline anyway, it will spiral to nothing now. Way to go Zuck! YET ANOTother corporate whore choosing money over the truth!


    102. Tina says:

      Is he that dumb or aloof?

      Lindsey Graham

      I was initially told House GOP took the SCIF by force – basically like a GOP version of Occupy Wall Street.

      Apparently it was a peaceful protest. Big difference.

      I understand their frustration and they have good reason to be upset. https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1187093612363997184

    103. Proud Obamacon says:

      “dealing with their lenient scrutiny over non-citizens from voting”

      LOL reaching for straws now, but yeah yall can always talk about the 10 million or what was it 50 million illegals who voted? Proof please? And don’t be sourcing Not-so-Brietbart neither! LOL

      Just lies lies lies is all yall can muster up. SAD!

    104. BayernFan says:

      So basically trump is on track to win Florida. Again. As in like last time.

    105. jason says:

      Hillary was exonerated in the email scandal wins the “HHR Lie of the Week”.

      I know it’s only Wednesday but I am calling it.

    106. jason says:

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

      Biden says contrary to him, Trump chooses his words carefully, as explanation for calling the Clinton impeachment proceedings a lynching.

    107. Phil says:

      Well, Joe, that’s the first time I’ve ever heard ANYONE ever make the case that Trump chooses his words carefully. LOL. But, hey, whatever is convenient. Right, Joe?

    108. NYCmike says:

      #116 – that is great!

      Afterwards, I wonder if he said “…….hey, wait a minute…….”

    109. jason says:

      Screw Rand Paul.

      Did he say a nuclear Iran was not a threat?

    110. jason says:

      NYC, who never saw a deadender he didn’t like, probably won’t mind if I hope someone who is actually a conservative and a Republican primaries Rand Paul.

    111. Tina says:

      The jebots gossipblower is done.

      BuT mUh LynCHinG ? Retweeted

      Ryan Saavedra
      Verified account

      17m17 minutes ago
      BREAKING: The whistleblower at the center of Democrats’ impeachment inquiry acknowledged to the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) that bias against President Trump might be alleged them for a third, previously unreported reason

    112. Tina says:

      First it was Corn Pop.

      Now, it’s the muh Russians coming after China Biden.

      You cannot make this sheot up.

    113. Tina says:

      Paging Goober.

      4m4 minutes ago
      MATT GAETZ: We Gotta Stop Thinking We Can Use Marquis of Queensbury Rules Against Angry Pack of Rabid Hyenas

    114. Bitterlaw says:

      I hate to be fair but if you laughed at Obama’s 57 states and the Congresswoman who thought Guam could flip over, you have to laugh at Trump’s Colorado/Mexico border.

      Of course, politicians are human and make mistakes when caught up in a speech but what’s the fun in thinking that?

    115. Tina says:

      So, since the Soviet Schiff won’t use rules, Rs will make their own rules,

      I am sure the Rinos in the Senate will beotch, but phuq them and the corrupt SSIC.

      Btw, there are pictures of two R senators getting medals from the former and corrupt Ukrainian PM.

      Who are those 2?

    116. Tina says:

      Does Goober just go on Pawn Hannitys tv program?

      What about subpoenas.

      Act like a man,

    117. Bitterlaw says:

      How is the recovery going, Tina?

    118. NYCmike says:

      “NYC, who never saw a deadender he didn’t like, probably won’t mind if I hope someone who is actually a conservative and a Republican primaries Rand Paul.”

      -I wouldn’t have any issue with a primary on Rand Paul.

      I am sure Rand Paul wouldn’t change his approach to governance, like a John McCain type would every 6 years, and the citizens of Kentucky would decide what they want in a Senator.

    119. janz says:

      PO reread that guardian link you provided. There was no hint of “exoneration” noted, just that there was not found any “deliberate mishandling” of her emails. IOW, the state Dept again leaned on “intent,” in giving HRC a pass – something she doesn’t deserve considering how many violations by other government officials were cited in the emails examined.

    120. Bitterlaw says:

      I would break my not voting against an incumbent in a primary rule if Rand Paul was my Senator.

    121. Bitterlaw says:

      The citizens of Arizona sent McCain back to the Senate every 6 years so he clearly represented the views of a majority of his constituents. NYC can suck it.

    122. Tgca says:

      The citizens of PA have elected Casey senator 3 times in near to landslide range victories of 8% to 17% while Toomey has won 2 elections in the 1% to 2% range so clearly Casey represents the views of the vast majority of PA constituents and Toomey is losing ground.

      As for its neighboring sewer state NJ – who coined that phrase?…hmmm …with Booker and Menendez, they represent the majority of views of their constituents too.

      …and this all means what?

    123. Bitterlaw says:

      It means that voters in PA are conned by the Casey name into thinking the son is a moderate. He is also so boring they don’t know he is a typical Dem. it means voters in NJ are libs. It means Toomey appeals to smart suburbanites.

    124. Tina says:

      Doing well, Bl.

      Thanks for asking.

    125. jason says:

      I am sure Rand Paul wouldn’t change his approach to governance”

      I certainly would want a senator with a different approach to governance than Rand Paul.

    126. jason says:

      I hate to be fair but if you laughed at Obama’s 57 states and the Congresswoman who thought Guam could flip over, you have to laugh at Trump’s Colorado/Mexico border”

      He is being forced to reshape the border. The way things are going, the wall might have to be on the Mason Dixon line.

      That is less than 30 miles from here.

    127. Bitterlaw says:

      Breaking News – Trump vows to withdraw troops from the Colorado/Syria border.

    128. John says:

      Looks like the housing market has suddenly caught fire again…

      Recession? What recession?

    129. CG says:

      A Sharpie solves that border gaffe very easily.

    130. Victrc says:

      So I keep reading at Bloomberg and CNN about how Taylor’s testimony ensures impeachment and demands that because of it R’s senators have to convict.

      I’ve read the testimony. It’s all heresay and none of it first hand. It was rebuked immediately in subsequent testimony. And more than this, it’s not impeachable.

      If Dems set this as the standard to remove a president then going forward no President will go through their term without threat of removal.

      I stand by my assessment, we are viewing what a bloodless coup looks like, being aided by a complicit media.

    131. jason says:

      It IS an attempted coup.

      I bet you have hundreds of instances of the same types of conversations and exchanges for every President before Trump.

      If Rs had any balls they would issue a statement right now, none of us are going to cooperate, entertain, or vote for this type of charade.

      Unfortunately too many are cowed and shocked by the MSM, which had already decided Trump should be impeached before he even took office, and have supported dozens of purported impeachable offenses since then.

      Plus, as I said yesterday, Pence should say make me President and the first thing I will do will be to pardon Trump.

      That would set the tone for any cheap little coups.

    132. jason says:

      I’ve read the testimony. It’s all heresay and none of it first hand. It was rebuked immediately in subsequent testimony. And more than this, it’s not impeachable.”

      There is not one instance where anybody tells Taylor to engage in an quid pro quo. In fact, when he suggests that could be the case, he is specifically told that is NOT the President’s position.

    133. Tina says:

      China Biden now trailing nationally among drats

      China Biden now Fourth in Iowa.

      Source: Political polls

    134. jason says:

      I would break my not voting against an incumbent in a primary rule if Rand Paul was my Senator.”

      You would certainly be acquitted in any HHR impeachment trial for doing so.

    135. jason says:

      I actually prefer Biden to be the nominee for 2 reasons:

      1) He is the most likely Dem to self destruct in the GE campaign, outside of Beto.

      2) If he wins, he is the least crazy of the socialists, although it probably won’t matter, he will be beholden to the far left.

    136. VictrC says:

      Jason… exactly on both posts. They have wanted to overturn the results of the election since the day of the election because they think the American people are stupid. Literally, that is what Liberals think. You can see it on the posts here from the leftists and NT crowd.

      And correct. The MSM is not reporting that Taylor was specifically told this was not a quid pro quosituation at all. Literally that is the only first hand piece of information that he has, or offered, that it was NOT the President’s position.

      It’s hard to believe that they think this is the standard for removing a duly elected President of the USA. Going forward, I honestly believe the same tactic will be used for any Republican President who ever gets elected again until we stand up and stop letting this tyranny of the Obama coalition dictate the direction of the country.

      BTW, speaking of that, did anyone see that MLB is investigating an umpire because of pro-Trump posts on his twitter. I kid you not.

    137. jason says:

      I know, I agree Warren is probably less likely to win the GE than Biden, but IF she wins I will have to convert to Amish.

    138. jason says:

      LA ranked 2nd most rat-infested city in US.“

      Not only that, I hear they have a severe rodent infestation problem.

    139. Tina says:

      If Taylor knew why would be have to ask sunkind several times if it were true.

      You can say It’s a he said he said situation

      Yet sunkind wrote the same via text messages

    140. jason says:

      Media showing ‘strange new respect’ for Mitt Romney after his anti-Trump Twitter account surfaces, Howard Kurtz says”

      Nah, yah thinks, Howard?

      But that is not strange. What is strange is Romney actually thinks the MSM likes him.

      In the newsrooms across the country, I bet they start the meetings with “what did the useful idiot say today?”

    141. Tina says:

      Every witness has testified that there was no quid pro quo

      The ukranian president also said the same.

    142. jason says:

      Yet sunkind wrote the same via text messages”

      Yeah, but the Dems say well “Sunkind talked to Trump before he wrote that”.

      Hello? Why is that a problem? It should actually be the crux of the matter, since it is not even Sunkind’s opinion there was no quid quo pro, he heard it from the horse’s mouth himself.

    143. Tina says:

      Hopefully the house Rs shut the Scif down.

      Btw why did her thighness keep a black berry in a scif in her own home?

      Why was it ok for drats to take cell phone pics of Taylor’s opening statement?

    144. Tina says:

      In the chick fil a revolution, house Rs stopped Schiffty and the stalinists

    145. jason says:

      Why was it ok for drats to take cell phone pics of Taylor’s opening statement?”

      Of course it was.

      You know they would never share it with the MSM.

    146. Phil says:

      Never in a million years.


    147. Hugh says:

      Other than its unseemly I do not understand the problem with a quid pro quo if the intent is to get to the bottom of corruption in the Ukraine. You will never know intent. The vp’s son was on the board of a very corrupt company. The hypocrisy is what’s so frustrating. The other doesn’t even know the counter arguments because of the media. Actually they could watch most of the non opinion people on fox and hear the same thing. I have largely stopped watching them. My hope is that the people owe are not partisans have largely tuned it out. Or decided they don’t care.

    148. VictrC says:

      So, by virtue of the rhetoric of Democrats in Congress and the media, you can now remove a duly elected President of the United States, who actually won by a decent margin in the Electoral College, on the testimony of one person who has second, third and fourth hand knowledge of a situation, a whistleblow account of a situation that was second hand, of an event that does not qualify as a high crime or misdemeanor, because….you didn’t like the results of the past election.

      So, once impeached and removed, how long do you think it will be before they impeach and remove Pence for the crime of being Trump’s VP? Should Trump be removed how long do you think the Dems will filibuster the confirmation of a new VP in order to ensure that if Pence is removed that Pelosi becomes President.

      Worst of all, how is the above scenario so plausible in America.

      Why? Because we are witnessing a coup d’etat.

    149. Robbie says:

      Trump has slipped to 40.7 job approval in the 538 adjusted average. It’s the first time he’s dropped below 41% since his shutdown fiasco in January. The drop below the 41% mark appears to be due to Trump’s drop in Rasmussen which has him at 43%.

    150. Robbie says:

      VictrC says:
      October 24, 2019 at 11:38 am
      Why? Because we are witnessing a coup d’etat.

      – This is so ridiculous. The Constitution provides for impeachment and removal. Therefore it is not a coup unless you think the impeachment and removal statute in the Constitution is unconstitutional.

      And more to the point, how is it a coup if Trump is removed and replaced by Pence? Some of you act as if this is all a plot to make Hillary president. A coup happens when we go to bed one night with one leader and wake up the next morning to learn the military has installed a new leader.

      This coup nonsense is just Pizzagate level lunacy.

    151. Phil says:

      Democrats don’t want impeachment. Just want the illusion of impeachment. Impeachment would require an opportunity for Trump to get a defense – cross examination in public House hearings. They prefer things done behind closed doors and selective leaks. Besides, impeachment requires a trial in the Senate with an actual defense – calling witnesses, subpoena power, public cross examination by the Presidents lawyers, and, of course, would result in an ultimate aquital.

      Can’t have that now, can we?

    152. VictrC says:

      With all due respect Robbie, I am the furthest from a conspiracy theorist, nor do overreact to situations. Ive been posting here 15 years and I would ask you to review my posting history which is quite thoughtful and not reactionary.

      The Constitution absolutely provides for the impeachment and approval, but sets quite a high standard. There are also norms and precedents to follow. None of which are being followed here.

      Since the day of his election the left and others have been looking to overturn the results because they a. don’t like Trump because of his personality and b. Because they can not fathom that a Republican beat a Democrat, and even more so, a woman. Therefore they have been manufacturing crisis after crisis, trying to get the President impeached. This latest one is just that.

      As I stated above, not one first hand account of the situation has been heard where Trump was accused of quid pro quo. In fact, the first hand accounts of the event state the exact opposite, including that of the other party, the President of Ukraine. One would think that first hand accounts that state that it was specifically not a quid pro quo situation, and the words of a President of a foreign country would be enough to derail this charade. Instead, via secret hearings in the SCIF room under the Capital, here say is being used to prepare an impeachment to get rid of the person that the opposing party does not want to hold office. Nothing meets the criteria of high crimes or misdemeanors. That is the definition of a coup d’etat.

      And, it is both Bloomberg and the Washington Post, in articles dated October 4, 2019 and September 30, 2019 respectively, that have floated the scenario where Pelosi becomes President. Those are two “respected” main stream media outlets who have now jumped on that bandwagon. To quote the Bloomberg piece:

      “A Republican wouldn’t have to be paranoid to imagine the Democrats trying to maneuver past Pence, especially now that Pence’s name has come up as a possible character in the drama at the heart of the impeachment inquiry — the effort to press the president of Ukraine to dig up dirt on Trump’s leading Democratic rival, former Vice President Joe Biden.”

      So please, spare me the twisted logic. Three is a foundation in what I say, and in why I call this what it is.

    153. John says:

      Myself, I don’t like the word coup or coup d’etat defining what the most of the Democrats and the liberal elite media ‘seem’ like they are doing.
      It’s more like an attempted ‘oust’.
      Translation…they just want Trump gone, come hell or high water.

    154. Paul says:

      If you think the Republican Senators will simply go along with removing their president and vice president on flimsy grounds, you are terribly mistaken. You’d have to have pretty low opinion of Republican Senators to actually believe that possibility.

    155. VictrC says:

      Paul. I do not believe that they will vote for removal, especially on such flimsy grounds. I think it the Democrats know that it would be the death knoll to their 2020 hopes as well if they did for reasons stated above by Phil.

      Now, I do think that the Squad and others on the far left actually want an impeachment vote, but I think Pelosi, Schiff et all real strategy is to carry this impeachment scenario out until the election, giving the impression that Trump was, or was about to be, impeached to the average voter. Their belief is that if the voters hear it enough, and there is no actual vote, no real evidence to the contrary submitted into open hearings, then they will believe Trump was guilty and not vote for him in 2020.

      The question is can she keep the squad and the far left members of her caucus (and never trump crowd) happy enough with the SCIF room charade, or will they have to have an actual inquiry and vote.

    156. VictrC says:

      To clarify

      Republicans besides Romney would not vote to remove for peril of their own seats which they would be swept from in the primary or General if they voted to remove for this farce of a charge.

      Democrats know even holding a hearing where witnesses could be called and questioned would be their death knoll because the country would then learn this is a farce and an attempt to overturn the will of the people and an election (ironic isn’t it since they claim Trumpstole the election) so I agree with Phil that as long as Pelosi keeps the squad in line, there will never be a hearing or vote in public.

    157. Tina says:

      Goober is still goobering

      Senator @LindseyGrahamSC will be holding a press conference to introduce the Graham-McConnell resolution condemning the House of Representatives’ closed door, illegitimate impeachment inquiry at 3pm EST. @OANN

    158. Paul says:

      I agree with you. I think actual impeachment has the very real possibility of backfiring on the Democrats. They may end up creating a victorious and more defiant Trump who wins in a landslide in 2020. My concern (call it conspiracy theory if you’d like) is that Trump may feel more free to use (abuse) his power in his second term. And if he does something truly unconstitutional, the Democrats have already shot their impeachment wad and no one will want to go through that again. Sort of like the “Dems crying wolf”.

    159. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      What is happening on the ground in the Kentucky Governor’s race?

    160. Paul says:

      And I do not mean to minimize the possibility that Trump did hold back military aid as leverage to get Ukraine to dig up dirt on his rival. That I do believe is impeachable if the evidence becomes clear.

    161. janz says:

      Paul, if you think trump committed a constitutional sin, by inferring withholding aid to Ukraine if they did not comply with some request, then you must also say the same thing about Biden’s public boosting about his earlier threat to Ukraine, along with 3 dem senator’s letter blatantly threatening to deny aid if info on Trump was not given to them.

      BTW, I’ve read the transcript, alleging Trump’s abuse of power, and could only find introductory pleasantries between two leaders, both who seemed concerned about cooperating and correcting past corrupt behavior exercised by the US and Ukraine.

    162. Hugh says:

      Paul. There is no way to ever know his motive. He has every right to look into corruption in the Ukraine which I think by all accounts Burisma falls with in that. He has every right looking at potential corruption related to Americans operating in the Ukraine. In this case Biden is a candidate but he was also the vp and there is at least the appearance he threatened funding to protect his son and his sons company. We know Obama had concerns about his son taking that position. So quid pro quo or not. It could be completely legit or not but no way to prove it one way or the other. But I am sure if the situation was reversed nothing would be happening even if we were in charge of the house.

    163. janz says:

      Also, Paul, what about Obama withholding promised and already funded military armaments to Ukraine? Why isn’t that being analyzed and questioned regarding the lack of needed assistance to thwart Russian aggression? Then there is the Crimean takeover by Russia, without even a hiccup of resistance from the Obama Administration! Where is your criticism about these awful judgment calls, yielding to the aggressive actions of a country we think of as our enemy?

    164. Tina says:

      Rudy said to watch Romania and China and crack rock Biden.


    165. Tina says:

      What a web of corruption

      Ivan Pentchoukov’s Tweets

      Ivan Pentchoukov
      Thomas Eager (Schiff’s staff) traveled to Ukraine Aug. 25 – 31.

      During the trip, he met with William Taylor, the key impeachment witness.

      Atlantic Council sponsored the trip.

      Atlantic Council is an official partner of Burisma.

      Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma.

    166. John says:

      Nationals for the second night in a row beat another Astros ace to go up 2-0.
      Houston, we have a problem.

    167. Hugh says:

      177. Of course no proof pales in comparison to the trump kids who made even more. Same old garbage. Yes it looks bad but is not wrong. Trump is much worse. Progressive’s feel better because nbc looked at it and it all ok but the trumps are bad

    168. Phil says:

      Naw, Wes. Come on. She’s a Democrat. You know how this works. Nothing to see here.

    169. NYCmike says:

      What is happening on the ground in the Kentucky Governor’s race?”

      -Last I checked, Matt Bevin had caught up in polling and looked to be overtaking Beshear……so Robbie probably put that race in his IGNORE pile……

    170. NYCmike says:

      Katie Hill – between her and the “Squad” ladies, I appreciate all of the hare work they are doing to help Republicans.

    171. Bitterlaw says:

      Thanks to Wes, I now know the word “throuple.”

    172. NYCmike says:

      “– This is so ridiculous. The Constitution provides for impeachment and removal. Therefore it is not a coup unless you think the impeachment and removal statute in the Constitution is unconstitutional.”

      -It would be much better for Trump to be “Presidential”…….we all recall how well the media treated GWB…….

    173. Tina says:

      Katie Hill is a victim.

      -Jebot has

    174. CG says:

      They better check Katie Hill’s High School yearbook!

    175. NYCmike says:

      “They better check Katie Hill’s High School yearbook!”

      -Don’t worry, Robbie will give the internet a fine-tooth-comb-search for more pics!

    176. CG says:

      Yeah, what happened to GWB?

      He got reelected.

    177. CG says:

      Matt Gatez, typically a Trump acolyte, has been defending Katie Hill strongly on this.

      I suppose he knew about her tattoo and approved?

    178. NYCmike says:



      Gaetz went on MSNBC, aka “hostile territory”, yesterday…….surprised you didn’t point that out to HHR.

    179. NYCmike says:

      “Matt Gatez, typically a Trump acolyte, has been defending Katie Hill strongly on this.”

      -Most likely, his defense is due to the nature of the problem……has he defended any statements she made about Trump?

      Or did he defend her right to have some privacy in her life?

    180. CG says:

      Is entering “hostile territory” being celebrated today?

      I accept all sorts of tribute.

    181. NYCmike says:


      -No mention of Trump here…..wondering why “CG” would include “typically a Trump acolyte” in his comment?

    182. NYCmike says:

      You consider HHR “hostile territory”?

      You really are a snowflake.

    183. CG says:

      Well, generally speaking these days, Members of Congress are not supposed to have sexual relationships with subordinates in her office, so that led to this Ethics investigation. (I guess it would be best if she simply paid hush money to adult film stars)

      If her estranged husband illegally leaked photos of her, he should be prosecuted, (and so should the woman who had to sicken the civilized world with the Joe Barton photo.)

    184. NYCmike says:

      TDS on display.

    185. CG says:

      Every political place I go online is “hostile territory” but that’s ok. I am used to it.

      Only here though will people approve of the President calling me “scum of the Earth” and “more dangerous than Democrats.”

    186. Tina says:

      The jebots are mad that Stalin was shut down. We need more shutdowns of Soviet schifty.

      No rules means no rules.

    187. NYCmike says:

      Got it.

      “CG” considers name-calling worse than baby-killing.

      According to “CG”, Trump is worse than any of the Democratic candidates, who ALL support legislation which would allow a child to be aborted even after being born alive.

    188. CG says:

      They don’t all support that, and I am not voting for them anyway, so it doesn’t matter.

      Trump is the one who has wanted women to have abortions and I believe likely coerced them to do so.

      But yeah, it’s totally cool that a President calls Americans “scum of the Earth.”

    189. CG says:

      If Trump came out tomorrow for taxpayer funding abortion on demand, NYC would support him for it or say it’s not a big deal because Ronald Reagan did something pro-choice as Governor of California once..

    190. NYCmike says:

      “If Trump came out tomorrow”

      -You keep saying this.

      Something tells me you like your fantasy world better than the real world.

    191. NYCmike says:

      “If Trump came out tomorrow for taxpayer funding abortion on demand,”

      -Wasn’t Congress and/or Trump able to cut some funding for Planned Parenthood?

    192. Tina says:

      I like a world with Hillary in charge best.


    193. CG says:

      yeah, and Trump was funding protection for the Kurds at one point too.

    194. Tina says:

      Trump also did away with federal agencies buying the compost and the slimes.

      And he is hollowing out the department of commie state.

    195. CG says:

      Trump can call me “the scum of the Earth” if he wants and I can exercise my right to not vote for him. Seems like a fair trade to me.

    196. CG says:

      Hillary Clinton just demanded to know if Tulsi Gabbard has a Hammer & Sickle tattoo.

    197. VictrC says:

      Scum of the earth comment was WAY WAY over the line.He should apologize.

    198. CG says:

      I misquoted him I guess. He said “human scum” (as well as being “more dangerous than the Democrats”)

      Human scum is at least above canine scum and all that. We know how much he hates dogs.

    199. John says:

      I’m actually starting to believe that impeachment was never the goal for Pelosi in the first place hence the non vote for an official vote for an inquiry, but was always a vehicle to damage Trump among independents going into the 2020 election.
      This resolution signed by at least 44 GOP Senators basically sending a ‘cease and desist’ letter makes it almost impossible for conviction in the Senate with at least 67 Senators needed to vote yea.

    200. lisab says:

      there is a rumour that hillary was close to announcing

      but the reaction to her attack on tulsi has her reconsidering

      at least on her timing

      and that the dems support of tulsi was exactly to stop hillary

    201. dblaikie says:

      Graham’s resolution now has 47 signatures and I would suspect at the end of the day only Murkowski, Romney, Collins, Gardner and maybe Alexander won’t sign.

      I don’t think that Pelosi has the votes without twisting arms and making members walk the political plank. As usual the reality that the media puts out is fantasy. I firmly believe that the dems have backed themselves into a corner.

    202. Tina says:

      This is not troupie. Seems like the jebots need to explain the anti Semitism and behavior of their members.

      Ryan Saavedra
      Verified account

      Follow Follow @RealSaavedra
      BREAKING: Another House Democrat Is Under Investigation For Allegedly Sleeping With Staffer

    203. Tina says:

      In a rreversal, China Biden will accept $ from a super pac.

      He is cash strapped.

    204. Phil says:

      That’s interesting on Hillary, Lisa. Don’t know one way or the other but it’s certainly possible. On the other hand, do you really think she’s that out of touch that she thinks there is an appetite, or any appetite at all for that matter to see her back again?

    205. Tina says:


      Justice Dept. Is Said to Open Criminal Inquiry Into Its Own Russia Investigation
      44 minutes ago

    206. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Iowa Democratic Caucus:
      Warren 28 (+4 Since last Month)
      Buttigieg 20 (+7)
      Sanders 18 (+2)
      Biden 12 (-4)
      Klobuchar 4 (+1)
      Harris 3 (-2)
      Steyer 3 (+1)
      Gabbard 2 (-4)
      Yang 2 (-1)
      Everyone else 1% or less
      Iowa State University/@Civiqs Poll

      If this poll is correct, it is a game changer.

    207. Tina says:

      Gloves are off, Russia hoax is now a full criminal investigstion into the coup plotters.

    208. Tina says:

      Sdc, Biden also trails nationally.

      Political polls.

      I also mentioned your poll and this one earlier.

    209. Tina says:

      As I indicated, they will play the penguin against the commie.

      All roads go to China Biden and the Obumbler.

    210. Tina says:

      And just look how the jebots are reacting. We do not know the predicate because F. Mukehead said it was not his purview.

      We do have two fib agents mentioning an insurance policy.

      We do have Andy and Yates entrapping Flynn.

      We do have Nadjia who just happened to be in trump tower and met with fusion before and after her visit on adoption.

      We do have a so called Russian spy possessing two gubment blackberries.

      We do have wire tapping trump tower.

      We do have President zero saying keep me in the loop.

    211. lisab says:

      do you really think she’s that out of touch that she thinks there is an appetite, or any appetite at all for that matter to see her back again?


    212. Tina says:

      This is laughable. The ny slimes first said this was all unfounded.

      Now, they claim that the Italian gubment “set up” papadapolous


    213. NYCmike says:

      Paul Rosenzweig didn’t mention the actual laws that Trump has broken.

      Again, this is how #NeverTrumpers, like him and “CG” must think: Having a potty mouth is worse than being in favor of abortion at any time during a pregnancy.

    214. Tina says:

      There is a lot of incoming news on Flynn, per his lawyer.

      Will be gone now to review it.

    215. lisab says:

      a recent Rasmussen poll of Republicans finds precious little support for the Romney, according to The Washington Times.

      In a survey taken Oct. 15 and 16, Rasmussen found that 63 percent of likely Republican voters think the party should be “more like Trump than like Romney,” the newspaper reported Wednesday.

    216. NYCmike says:


      -Interesting that guy who wrote that piece for The Atlantic.

      Works for the Chertoff Group, as in Michael Chertoff.

      They leveraged their government positions to now be consultants.


    217. NYCmike says:


      -Paul Rosenzweig was upset when Mueller…..nevermind that there was nothing there.

    218. NYCmike says:

      “CG” also has not said much about William Barr, who worked for the Bush family.

      Somehow, Barr convinced Barr to work for him.

      “CG”, Is Barr “breaking laws” like the President?

    219. Tina says:

      Sean Langille
      Verified account

      Follow Follow @SeanLangille
      NEW: Sources tell @edhenry the long-awaited Justice Dept IG report will shed light on why the John Durham-led investigation is now officially a criminal probe
      6:12 PM – 24 Oct 2019

    220. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “GOP voters still side with the president and think Romney is hurting their party,” said a new Rasmussen Reports poll released Wednesday.

      It found that about two-thirds of likely Republican voters —63% — think the GOP should be “more like Trump than like Romney.”

      Thirty percent say the GOP should be more like the freshman senator from Utah.”

      Given that it is often stated, and some poll have indicated, that 90% of Republicans support Trump. The 30% of Republicans who though the GOP should be more like Romney is higher than would have been expected.

    221. Tina says:

      Jebots in panic. Now want Barr to be impeached.

    222. dblaikie says:

      Boy is Rachel Maddow ever howling to the moon tonight!

    223. Tina says:

      Oh, and one more thing.

      The investigation did not just become criminal.

      The investigation has been a criminal one since around 10/18.


    224. Hugh says:

      Slowly but surely I am eliminating Fox News shows I’ll watch. Cavuto Wallace Baer anyone bringing out the judge. I can get the dem side 24 7 anywhere. But if fox thinks they can crap all over their viewers and be popular with their other media buddies and keep their audience good luck. Great opportunity for some money to come in and be the next fox.

    225. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      ? NEW POLL: Michigan U.S. Senate race tied
      James: 39%
      Peters: 39%

    226. lisab says:

      Hillary Clinton Accidentally Posts Condolences For Tulsi Gabbard’s Suicide One Day Early

    227. Tina says:

      I cannot stand incompetano.

      I mean not for federal issues.

      He may know no traffic law.

    228. Tina says:

      Horrible impeachment numbers for the drats:

      Jack Posobiec ?? Retweeted

      John McLaughlin

      12h12 hours ago
      52% majority says impeachment is political to stop @realDonaldTrump reelection only 36% legal 47%-33% say @POTUS shudn’t cooperate n 59%-33% say it’s a waste n Dems need to work w/ Reps to solve nations problems. https://mclaughlinonline.com/2019/10/24/national-survey-impeachment-related-issue-results-10-24-19/

    229. Tina says:

      Yah think….

      John Ratcliffe
      Verified account

      Oct 23
      Unlike reporters writing headlines based on Taylor’s opening statement, I was in the room for his testimony yesterday. He provided no evidence that the Ukrainians were aware that military aid was being withheld during the July 25 call. That makes Quid Pro Quo legally impossible.

    230. Tina says:


      News Breaking LIVE

      Follow Follow @NewsBreaking
      NEW: President Trump says that he will attend the World Series on Sunday, if the series reaches Game 5; when asked if he will throw the first pitch, Trump says “I don’t know. They got to dress me up in a lot of heavy armor. I’ll look too heavy – I don’t like that.” – Bloomberg
      2:16 PM – 24 Oct 2019

    231. Tina says:


      BREAKING – new @SidneyPowell1 filing in the Flynn case.

      Lisa Page edited the Flynn 302.

      James Clapper told WaPo reporter Ignatius to basically “take the kill shot on Flynn”

    232. dblaikie says:

      You can’t make this stuff up. Schiff and Nadler are claiming that the Durham investigation is bogus. Can you image the bellowing of the media when their friends are called into the Grand Jury. Pass the popcorn!

    233. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      251. That is among the most awful adds I have seen. He even has some mentally weak moments where he got his words confused. I like this response to it:

      “This this a commercial for burial services at Shady Acres??”

    234. Tina says:

      The trump campaign has been able to tag China Biden.

      Many times, China Biden walked right into it.

      This is not the same guy thst beat Paolo Ryan

    235. Tina says:


      IG finds campaign abuses against the Trump Campaign.


    236. Tina says:


      The mistress, at the instructions of Pete the cheat, edited Flynn’s 302.

      The mistress initially said she made no edits to it, but she was confronted with text messages,

      The mistress and Pete the cheat are in deep criminal trouble.

      Obstruction, evidence tampering, civil rights violations, 6th amendment violations.

    237. Tina says:

      Flynn filing here, it is a blockbuster and shows malfeasance by the fib.


    238. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Here is an excellent rebuttal to Trump’s comment when he withdraw from Syria that it was “7.000 miles away.”

      “we are 7,000 miles away” — an odd statement for someone who went to Lower Manhattan just days after Sept. 11.”

      Ben Laden and his terrorist network were about 7,000 miles away too.

    239. Phil says:


      Holy cow, Tina. I just read the filed legal document of Flynn’s attorneys. The FBI’s conduct is outrageous. Pete, Lisa, and McCabe are in deep deep doo doo. Good grief!

    240. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      David Victor Hanson has been an articulate defender of Trump, but he has not use for Trump’s “appeasing” Turkish policy

      “During the Obama administration, Erdogan snubbed the obsequious American attempts to promote Turkey as the cornerstone of America’s Middle East policy. President Trump should remember that and perhaps reconsider his own sometimes appeasing outreach to Erdogan.
      Turkey opposes, if not detests, almost every American ally in the region, and befriends almost every U.S. enemy.
      It despises Israel, aids its enemies and hopes for its dissolution. Turkey is currently attacking the U.S.-allied Kurds in Syria. It works against the pro-American Sisi regime in Egypt. Turkish violations of Greek airspace in the Aegean are a common occurrence, as are aggressive simulated attacks on Greek aircraft.
      Turkey has frightened and alienated most NATO allies. The European Union has limited arms sales to Turkey. Germany has pulled its small forces out of the country. Recently, Turkish forces “accidentally” shelled a U.S. Special Forces peacekeeping outpost on the Turkish-Syrian border.
      Russia sold Turkey a $2 billion, state-of-the-art S-400 anti-aircraft missile system designed to shoot down the latest NATO aircraft. Yet the U.S. is contracted to sell Turkey F-35 fighter aircraft, the cornerstone of the next-generation air defense of America and NATO. Given that some of the plane’s assemblage was outsourced to Turkish companies, it’s conceivable that on-site Russian technicians could build into the S-400 system ways to down F-35s.

    241. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      259. I am waiting for some nitwit poster to reply to Hanson’s comments by stating: “but their still our NATO ally.”

    242. lisab says:

      turkey controls one of the most important seaways in the world

      given the choice of being the ally of one of the most important countries on earth

      or the kurds

      turkey is BY FAR the correct choice

      and only a nitwit would say otherwise

    243. dblaikie says:

      I agree Lisab, the major thrust of Russian Foreign policy since Peter the Great has been to have access to a year round warm water port. Turkey has always been the block to that. We need to keep Turkey as close as possible. How does the old saying put it, keep your friends close and your friends closer.

    244. dblaikie says:

      Enemy’s closer

    245. jason says:

      given the choice of being the ally of one of the most important countries on earth

      or the kurds”


      Straw argument since that is a fake choice.

    246. jason says:

      Meanwhile…in news that really matters.

      WASHINGTON ? Senate Republicans voted Thursday to confirm Justin Walker to a lifetime seat on a federal court, despite the fact that he earned a rare and embarrassing “not qualified” rating from the American Bar Association.

      Every Republican present voted to put Walker, 37, onto the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Kentucky. Every Democrat present voted no….”

      “This is unquestionably the most outstanding nomination that I’ve ever recommended to Presidents to serve on the bench in Kentucky,” McConnell tweeted in July, just a day after the ABA issued its rating of Walker’s qualifications.”

      The most hilarious part of the article is where the ABA is called “non-partisan”.

    247. jason says:

      I am waiting for some nitwit poster to reply to Hanson’s comments by stating: “but their still our NATO ally.”

      You have a couple so far, there will be more.

    248. jason says:

      I am sure Amoral Scumbag will be outraged…

      James Clapper told WaPo reporter Ignatius to basically “take the kill shot on Flynn”d

    249. Tina says:

      The gubment cannot produce the original 302.

      Edited final 302 by mistress, Pete the cheat, and McCabe, which is contradicted by the agents notes.

      Nobody knows what uh happened to the original 302.

      Yates (an incompetent buffoon) objects to Flynn being interviewed. Says interview is fatally flawed.

      They have no crime that Flynn committed. (Talking to the Russians and other foreign countries was his job).

      Van Clack has hidden discovery.

    250. Tina says:

      Looks like the Ny Fat Pad and Soviet Schiff are upset.

      (((Rep. Nadler)))
      Verified account

      Follow Follow @RepJerryNadler
      If the Department of Justice may be used as a tool of political retribution, or to help the President with a political narrative for the next election, the rule of law will suffer new and irreparable damage.

      Joint statement w/ @RepAdamSchiff

    251. Tina says:

      Breaking in a footnote to the filing, Powell notes the following:

      ONA Director Col. James Baker “is believed to be the person who illegally leaked the transcript of Mr. Flynn’s calls to Ignatius”

      This was given to the penguin.

      IF TRUE, both the penguin and Baker committed felonies.

    252. Phil says:

      Man, if you read that filing by Sidney Powell, attorney for Flynn, it will make your blood boil. McCabe, Pete the Cheat, Clapper, Lisa Page, the whole lot of them set Flynn up good. Wow. Openly discussed how to interview Flynn without him thinking he was a target and how to get around his having counsel during his interview, altering 302 forms, Clapper deliberately leaking selected information on Flynn to their friends in the MSM to destroy Flynn, and much much more.

      The man had his life and finances completely destroyed by these people for the sole purpose of obtaining one goal – get Trump. They are scum.

    253. Phil says:

      These people are in deep doo doo.

    254. jason says:

      Mr. Barr’s reliance on Mr. Durham, a widely respected and veteran prosecutor who has investigated C.I.A. torture and broken up Mafia rings, could help insulate the attorney general from accusations that he is doing the president’s bidding and putting politics above justice.”

      Respected? Not for long.

      Durham will soon be taken apart by the MSM as a Trump toadie.

      Bet on it.

    255. jason says:

      If the Department of Justice may be used as a tool of political retribution, or to help the President with a political narrative for the next election,”

      Hello, Loretta, what say you?

    256. Waingro says:

      So Graham’s resolution is at 46 votes. But my guess at best will fall one vote short. Would be shocked to see Gardner, Collins, Murk or Romney sign on.

      Frank Thorp V
      Verified account

      12m12 minutes ago
      MoreFrank Thorp V Retweeted Lindsey Graham
      And Sullivan has also signed on, so there are SEVEN republicans who have not yet cosponsored the Graham/McConnell resolution condemning the House impeachment inquiry process:

    257. lisab says:

      CIA ‘rattled’ by DOJ inquiry into Russia investigation origins

      “It’s really not clear where he’s going with this, but a lot of people are very rattled. Those CIA analysts I mentioned had to hire their own lawyers because no one’s even sure whether this is a criminal investigation or not. And if it is a criminal investigation, what is the allegation of wrongdoing? No one I talked to can answer that,” Ken Dilanian said on Monday’s episode of Morning Joe on MSNBC.

    258. lisab says:

      Durham’s investigation into FBI misconduct is now criminal probe

    259. lisab says:

      The GOP senators who are looking to impeach President so far include, Sens. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), Susan Collins (R-Maine), Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), Cory Gardner (R-Colo.), Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.), Mike Enzi (R-Wyo.), Johnny Isakson (R-Ga.), Dan Sullivan (R-Alaska) and Rob Portman (R-Ohio).

    260. Waingro says:

      #280, Lisa: Sullivan and Portman have signed onto the Graham resolution.

    261. lisab says:

      #280, Lisa: Sullivan and Portman have signed onto the Graham resolution.

      i am not sure when the article was posted

    262. lisab says:

      Impeachment deal in the works?

      A deal may have been reached in the ongoing impeachment crisis. The deal consists of President Trump and VP Mike Pence either being impeached or stepping down voluntarily. In exchange, a consensus ticket of Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney would take over as President and Vice President respectively.

    263. Waingro says:

      #283, I assume that’s from an Onion article or something?

    264. lisab says:

      Kellyanne Conway, in heated clash with reporter: “You’re really going places, let me tell you something, from a powerful woman — don’t pull the crap where you’re trying to undercut another woman based on who she’s married to. He gets his power through me, if you haven’t noticed.”

    265. lisab says:

      I assume that’s from an Onion article or something?


    266. lisab says:

      Breaking: Hawaii Judge rules DOJ criminal investigation unconstitutional.

    267. lisab says:

      House of Representatives


      Impeaching Donald J Trump for the following crimes and misdemeaners:

      1. He hurt our feelings.
      2. He violated Facebook’s community policy

    268. lisab says:

      $ 1,200 Brand new Lebron James’ Nike prototype sneakers contain actual imprisoned souls of Chinese child labourers

    269. lisab says:

      Revenge porn is being used to smear and discredit a sitting congresswoman
      Moira Donegan

      Katie Hill may not be a perfect victim, but posting a naked photo of her in retaliation is a rightwing smear campaign

    270. BayernFan says:

      Change mueller to impeachment.

    271. BayernFan says:

      The iron cross above her snatch is hilarious. Yet another Dem hypocrite.

    272. BayernFan says:

      278….. Umm yeah……people aren’t entitled to a road map from prosecutors and investigators. You have a choice…. either tell the truth or plead the fifth.

    273. jason says:

      what is the allegation of wrongdoing? No one I talked to can answer that,”

      It never bothered the MSM and the moonbats that it could not be answered during the Mueller investigation either.

    274. jason says:

      Portman is not seeking to impeach Trump.

      Fake news.

      “The American people want us to get things done for them rather than focus on more and more partisan investigations,” Portman said in a statement. “The Democrats’ impeachment inquiry will distract Congress from the bipartisan legislative work we should be doing to find solutions and deliver results for the American people.”

    275. jason says:

      consensus ticket of Hillary Clinton and Mitt Romney would take over as President and Vice President respectively.”

      However, articles of impeachment will be filed against Romney on their first day in office.

    276. jason says:

      Katie Hill may not be a perfect victim, but posting a naked photo of her in retaliation is a rightwing smear campaign”

      The vast right wing conspiracy is alive and well.

      However, you can bet that whomever released the photos was someone in her inner circle, most certainly another Democrat. Maybe even her husband or the girlfriend.

    277. dblaikie says:

      BOOM! And I don’t boom much. Graham now has 50 signatures to his resolution. Alexander, Enzi and Isakson have signed. Now that 50 has been reached Collins and Gardner will have huge pressure since they will need Trump voters in Nov.

    278. Bitterlaw says:

      Rep. Hill is certainly an interesting person but if everything was legal/consensual…Zzzzzzz. Not sure about the bong (legal where she was?) and I think non-medicinal pot is for losers but that is her choice. She just issue a statement and say GFY.

      On a side note, this is why taking photos was banned at the A-hole Clubhouse. Nobody wants to see A-holes cut loose.

    279. dblaikie says:

      Gardener already signed. That leaves Collins, Murkowski and Mitt. He must be crushed.

    280. dblaikie says:

      I wonder if Jones or Mancion will sign on. The Senator from WV has a habit to do this once 50 is already reached.

    281. Tina says:

      Let’s see

      Maine Chicklet

      Pierre Rino

      Planned parenthood (Drat in drag)

    282. Tina says:


      President @realDonaldTrump says we have a great attorney general and they’ve been looking at this for a very long time. He can’t tell us what’s happening but he does think we will see a lot of bad things.

    283. jason says:

      Elizabeth Drew in USA Today article title:

      “You don’t have to break a law to be impeached. Trump’s defenders need a better argument.”

      Ok, I am glad we took care of that.

      Now we can move on to what non-crime Trump should be impeached for.