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Warren Leads/Biden in 4th in IA

We have another poll for the Democratic caucus in Iowa that shows Joe Biden mired in fourth place. This latest poll comes from The New York Times and Siena College.

PRESIDENT – IOWA – DEM CAUCUS (NYT/Siena)
Elizabeth Warren 22%
Bernie Sanders 19%
Pete Buttigieg 18%
Joe Biden 17%
Amy Klobuchar 4%
Kamala Harris 3%
Andrew Yang 3%
Tom Steyer 2%
Tulsi Gabbard 2%
Cory Booker 25
Everyone Else 1% or less

This poll was done October 25-30 among likely caucus goers.

Posted by Dave at 12:25 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (134)

134 Responses to “Warren Leads/Biden in 4th in IA”

  1. Tina says:

    What China Biden in fourth?

  2. Paul says:

    Come on, Iowa! Your corn-feed salt-of-the-earth folk are supposed to bring some sanity to my party.

  3. Paul says:

    They’d be throwing Sherrod Brown in about now if it didn’t mean sacrificing a senate seat.

  4. lisab says:

    “Biden 41, Trump 36
    Sanders 39, Trump 37
    Warren 35, Trump 36
    Harris 31, Trump 36
    Buttigieg 29, Trump 35”

    Can’t believe there can be so many undecideds.

    Big Joe
    ——————————–

    a huge number of trump supporters will not publicly say so.

    at a conference i was at last weekend, an hr lawyer openly said she would fire anyone that wore a maga hat

  5. Hugh says:

    So true lisab

  6. Tina says:

    Is ciaobrutta a cia spy?

    Is he the person referred to as Charlie the ci guy in the Pete the cheat mistress text message?

  7. VictrC says:

    Paul. Do you think Sherrod Brown would play nationally? Do you consider him a centrist. He calls himself a progressive populist and is pretty far left on a number of issues including tax, guns and healthcare. He was an early backer of Sanders before switching support to Clinton in 2016

    I went to school with his daughter who is now in politics .

  8. VictrC says:

    NYC

    I say 4 am because no matter if the election is over by 9pm they won’t call it because a. They want the ratings and b. They will never be able to admit it.

    You thought calling SC, GA and Ohio took a long time, wait till 2020. They will wait to call Alabama and Mississippi until midnight.

  9. NYCmike says:

    “Remember when they waited to call SC.. GA…Ohio,etc”

    -Point taken, Victrc.

    That wait actually made it even sweeter……knowing that there were libs hanging on, hoping THEIR GOD could make it right!

  10. NYCmike says:

    “They will wait to call Alabama and Mississippi until midnight.”

    -Heh!

  11. Paul says:

    8: VictrC, I think he would appeal to a more everyday folk and centrists. And he has really ripped apart “medicare for all.” For many progressives, that makes him “far right.” 🙂

  12. Paul says:

    I am the polar opposite of Robbie. He’s the eeyore of conservatives that is certain the sky is falling. I’m the eeyore of the Democrats. I think they are completely screwing up things. The impeachment will only make Trump stronger. And then they are fighting over who can be the most crazy of leftists, calling anyone who wants to keep private insurance around as a sellout.

    I would love a normal candidate to rise to the top besides the one who is nearly 80 and can’t quite remember which state he’s in. Either, we get the old Socialist, the School Marm, the smart gay guy, or grandpa.

  13. Paul says:

    I think the Dems best shot is with the smart gay guy. But I’m not hopeful.

  14. CG says:

    Would that be Kasich, Rubio, or Cruz?

    (According to lisab)

  15. VictrC says:

    PAul

    I think most on this board would agree that a truly centrist Dem would probably win, unfortunately most are gone and those that remain, Bullock (sic) et al have not chance at the nomination.

    Heck…the most centrist besides the one who is unfortunately losing his facilities (because he is a genuinely nice guy) is Buttigieg. Let that sink in.

    130M voters + will go to the polls in November, 120M+ will hold their nose and vote for someone. Because of how far left the D’s have gone (A socialist sectagenerian, a woman who wants to spend $52T on healthcare by adding a massive tax on employers and put a 6% special tax on the rich after raising their rates to a min of 40%) That is the reality of the situation which is why Trump has a chance of winning.

  16. Paul says:

    15: 🙂

  17. VictrC says:

    CG. I am sorry to say that the fantasy of Kasich (the Republican Vichy) Rubio or Cruz being the R nominee would mean a historic R defeat.

    You have to be joking if you think kicking Trump off the ticket is going to get an R elected President. I personally backed Rubio in 2016 and think Cruz is a smart man (albeit not likable) but you will disenfranchise so many voters in swing states that you will have no chance of carrying them…plus you bring the Carolinas, Florida, Georgia, TN, TX and more into play because of sheer anger.

  18. CG says:

    I was merely making reference to the 2016 GOP candidates whom the resident gayness expert said were gay.

    Trump was the weakest possible Republican candidate in 2016 and remains in an incredibly weak political position.

  19. Big Joe says:

    #4
    “a huge number of trump supporters will not publicly say so.

    “at a conference i was at last weekend, an hr lawyer openly said she would fire anyone that wore a maga hat”

    But they can tell a pollster, no? Are they afraid that a pollster will rat them out to their employer. Unfortunately, polls like these don’t tell us much unless there’s some insight on who the undecideds are and how they lean.

    Big Joe

  20. CG says:

    Apparently, in 2018, there was a massive amount of Trump supporters so fearful of losing their jobs at the hands of vengeful liberals that they voted Democrat in the midterms, just to be safe….

  21. Paul says:

    Lisab will be warning us about the White House foam parties that Buttigieg will be throwing for his Episcopalian Men’s prayer group.

  22. VictrC says:

    CG.. Gotcha. Though I disagree that Trump was the weakest candidate for us in 2016. I didn’t support him AT ALL but he proved to have an ability to talk to the disenfranchised blue collar worker in WI, PA and MI that many others in the field couldn’t. Kasich may have carried those states (but lost Florida and other close red states) Cruz? No, Jeb? Hell no. Marco? 50/50

    Paul
    I didn’t realize Buttigieg was an Episcopalian. Now it makes sense. They are one tick right of Unitarian.

  23. Paul says:

    21: Plus the socialists are a known quantity so their number is locked in place. For Trump, it is still unknown regarding how crazy he can get. 🙂

  24. CG says:

    I think just about any Republican would have wound up being Hillary in those states that she took for granted. The exit polls clearly back that up. Trump was very unpopular in those states, yet he still managed to win them because people were voting against Hillary.

    There were other states that would have been in play with a more mainstream Republican (Bush, Rubio, Kasich). Needless to say, Republicans lost a ton of their typical voters in 2016, mainly upscale suburbanites. By 2018, it had gotten even worse for Republicans due to Trump as many of those voted Democrat.

    Check out the 2016 exit polls from those states for yourself. I have referenced them directly at great detail on here. People just do not want to deal with the reality of them.

    For example, you can look at Wisconsin, where Trump won in an upset and see in terms of favorability, approval, etc, how much more unpopular Trump was there than the specific example given on the exit poll in the person of Paul Ryan.

    All data indicates that a more traditional mainstream Republican would have fared far better nationwide than Trump did then and needless to say would be in a much better position than Trump is now.

  25. Proud Obamacon says:

    BJ,

    LB wants us to believe that her Orange Dildo is getting 60-70% of the vote. That’s what’s claiming and of course it’s ludicrous. Then these Orange Worshippers never cease to surprise me with their drivel.

    You are absolutely right. The poll is trash. If anything, it is in fact absolutely devastating to the Orange Worshippers cos it shows their hero getting support only in the 30%s!! Leave it to Orange Worshippers to turn that into a win LOL What a bunch of Loooooooosahs

    #BLUE.WAVE.COMIN

  26. lisab says:

    warren’s $52 trillion plan will luckily not cost anyone any money … just the rich

  27. lisab says:

    But they can tell a pollster, no? Are they afraid that a pollster will rat them out to their employer. Unfortunately, polls like these don’t tell us much unless there’s some insight on who the undecideds are and how they lean.
    ——————————-

    no …

    there are just too many people who would love to identify trump voters and get them fired if they could

    you would have all kinds of harassment, from getting your car keyed to people actually accusing you of sexual assault, aka kavanaugh.

    it would be foolish for anyone in a purple or blue state to tell anyone you were voting for trump

  28. lisab says:

    Lisab will be warning us about the White House foam parties
    —————————-

    i would be all for him throwing a foam party

  29. Phil says:

    Yep, the Warren tax plan looks solid to me.

    In all seriousness though, it didn’t take more than a couple of hours for Biden to rip it. It’s total fantasy and even all but the most extreme leftist radicals know it.

    Liz can’t sell that BS. It’s just not believable. She’s blowing it.

  30. lisab says:

    Robert F. Kennedy’s granddaughter, Saoirse Kennedy Hill, died of accidental overdose

    she took methadone, alcohol and a handful of other drugs

  31. lisab says:

    Yep, the Warren tax plan looks solid to me.
    ——————-

    if you don’t pay taxes …

    it looks fine

  32. Phil says:

    Beto drops out of the race.

    Terrible news. LOL

  33. lisab says:

    Beto drops out of the race.

    ————————

    didn’t he just revitalize his campaign last week?

  34. CG says:

    Beto discovered yesterday on Halloween that he has new career options as “Slenderman.”

  35. Big Joe says:

    #26 Proud-
    “You are absolutely right. The poll is trash. If anything, it is in fact absolutely devastating to the Orange Worshippers cos it shows their hero getting support only in the 30%s!! Leave it to Orange Worshippers to turn that into a win LOL What a bunch of Loooooooosahs”

    Not sure, Proud. With that many undecideds, it’s really hard to draw any conclusions. This is poor polling in my opinion. There are very few undecideds out there, polls should show that.

    Big Joe

  36. CG says:

    Maybe “other” was an option in the poll cited and people responded as I would.

  37. Phil says:

    Who is now going to save us from the AR-15s.

    I now feel so scared and vulnerable.

  38. lisab says:

    I now feel so scared and vulnerable.
    ——————

    don’t worry, every dem candidate will take away the ar-15’s

  39. lisab says:

    as i said an HR lawyer openly said she would fire anyone she saw wearing a maga hat …

    she said that there are no protections for political beliefs so it is not illegal to fire someone for that

  40. CG says:

    Just about any major company would prohibit an employee from wearing any sort of political hat, regardless of candidate or cause while at work. And most companies probably prohibit hats in the office in general.

  41. Big Joe says:

    Nice, Beto’s out. Hopefully we are on track to be down to the Elite 8 by Iowa and Final 4 post-SC.

    Big Joe

  42. Proud Obamacon says:

    Aight Beto, there’s big a Senate race in Texas we need to win!

    #BLUE.WAVE.COMIN’

  43. Big Joe says:

    #43 Proud-

    Not seeing it. A Senate loss last year, a failed POTUS campaign this year, another potential Senate loss next year probably ends his career.

    Beto’s young and maybe has a future. I don’t think he takes the chance at going 0 for 3.

    Castro, on the other hand …

    Big Joe

  44. Big Joe says:

    LisaB,
    I don’t think employers would masquerade as pollsters trying to find Republicans. But that’s just my opinion. It’s a strange world so I guess anything is possible.

    Big Joe

  45. Phil says:

    Yep. Beto shot his wad. Senate candidate in Texas? Yeah, right.

    If he ever had any hope the extreme positions he’s taken over the last six months ended that dream. Cronyn would beat him like. Drum. Maybe if he rides his skateboard to California or Massachusetts he could win a senate seat from one of those states.

  46. Messy says:

    31. So what? Yes, it’s sad, but not newsworthy. Except for the one that was elected to congress, the Kennedys of that generation are all obscure as are the grandchildren of any other attorney general…or president for that matter.

    A tragedy in a family is a private thing and not something to gloat over.

  47. lisab says:

    So what?
    ————–

    she was well liked in massachusetts

  48. Proud Obamacon says:

    LB thinks Hillary killed the RFK granddaughter to keep the Kennedy congressman from running for President. That Hillary, such a Kold Blooded Killah!!

    #IMPEACH.DA.MFer

  49. lisab says:

    I don’t think employers would masquerade as pollsters
    —————————-

    no, but it would not be inconceivable for someone to call people and post trump supporters on social media

  50. Proud Obamacon says:

    Actually it was Hillary and Chelsea both killing the granddaughter so the granddaughter couldn’t run against Hillary in 2048 for President.

    Yaah, I heard it on Hannity. Chelsea takes out the 2048 ticket Seth Rich/RFK granddaughter . Only on Hannity! LOL

    #IMPEACH.Da.MFer

  51. Proud Obamacon says:

    correction ..
    so the granddaughter couldn’t run against Chelsea in 2048 for President.

    BLUE.WAVE.COMIN’!

  52. Hunter says:

    Lisa is right. There was a clear and definite Shy Tory effect in 2016. It will happen again in 2020. You can bet that almost all undecided voters are Trump voters who will vote for him.

    The Marxists already know they’re not voting for Trump. They are responding to polls with a lot of emotion and that means they are actually over-represented in polls.

    Tack on 5-10% to Trump’s number in any horse race poll.

    -Hunter

  53. lisab says:

    unless there is a major scandal or a major third party candidate

    trump will get over 45%

    and over 63 million votes

  54. Big Joe says:

    “trump will get over 45%

    and over 63 million votes”

    I would hope so if I was him. When accounting for population growth, that bar is very McCain-esque.

    Big Joe

  55. lisab says:

    McCain 59,948,323 votes

  56. Big Joe says:

    Repasting from my last post: “When accounting for population growth”

    Big Joe

  57. Proud Obamacon says:

    “that bar is very McCain-esque.”

    LOL !!!! LB is such a moron, she is gloating over her Orange God performing at McCain levels! What a fool.

    And BJ, truth be told, that 63 million would actually be under McCain levels. So delicious. The morons here just crack me up LOL

    #IMPEACH!

  58. Paul says:

    We’ll see which candidate gets most of Beto’s 1% of voters.

  59. lisab says:

    Trump 62,984,828 votes

  60. VictrC says:

    I expect Trump to come close to 65M votes. The amount is not really relevant. Where they occur is. Will they be in WI, PA, MI et al

  61. jason says:

    think just about any Republican would have wound up being Hillary in those states that she took for granted. ”

    Delusional drivel.

    Only Trump would have won PA, WI and MI. None of the other R candidates would have come close, not even my candidate Rubio.

    Of course, Corey knows that, he still thinks Jeb was a viable candidate. Yeah, the guy that spent 200 million for 4 delegates.

  62. Big Joe says:

    #58 Proud-
    “And BJ, truth be told, that 63 million would actually be under McCain levels.”

    Yeah you’re right.
    2008 population: 300M
    2020 population (projected): 330M

    So 10% population growth. This means 60M 2008 votes are equivalent to 66M 2020 votes.

    Voting age population would be more accurate than total population. I just did a quick Google search on total pop. Someone with more time is welcome to do a voting age pop. check. Not me though, I’m out for the night.

    Also, Vic you are right also. The distribution of the votes matter and that is an important lesson for Democrats.

    President Trump won Wisconsin with fewer votes than Romney got in 2012. Peace out.

    Big Joe

  63. jason says:

    Meanwhile, in the how to be spectacularly wrong category.

    @JRubinBlogger

    Beto fundraising number suggests Bernie now officially yesterday’s news, faces stiff competition for youth vote
    6,588
    8:49 AM – Mar 18, 2019 · Reston, VA

  64. jason says:

    Have a good evening Big Joe.

  65. VictrC says:

    Big Joe

    thanks for the input and being part of this blog and the conversation. We don’t agree on some things (damn yankee fan) but you are always well thought out and respectful. Thank you!!

    With regard to tying the number of votes to an increase in population you should be careful not to fall into that trap. The figureyou are looking for is eligible voters. A big portion of that growth will not be eligible to vote as its tied to immigration and not so much direct population growth from those born here. Eligible Age Voters is what you are looking for if you did a search. It will grow, just not at the numbers you might expect.

  66. lisab says:

    66M 2020 votes.
    ———————–

    if that is what you think, then you know the poll you mentioned is garbage

  67. VictrC says:

    Jason

    You are 100% correct. Like him or hate him he got a lot of disenfranchised voters out to the polls, ones ignored by the D’s.

    Now they wont make that mistake this time, but from what I have read WI is trending R, which bodes well for him. PA, you guys know better than I do. Michigan worries me, but James seems to be holding his own, so who knows.

  68. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Messy says:
    November 1, 2019 at 6:37 pm
    oh, by the way….India was really cool.”

    See!

    No global warming in India.
    Is cool there.

  69. Cash Cow TM says:

    “shot his wad”

    this shadow
    sh.!t show ad
    had to swish
    host wish ad

  70. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    “Violent and drunk monkeys attack tourists in paradise beach in Thailand”

  71. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    John Moon, believed to be the oldest living surviving marine from the Battle of Iwo Jima just died. He was 103 years of age. Last year, he sang the Stars Spangled Banner at a sports event at Western Illinois University. He did pretty well for a 102 year old.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=107&v=aFTlNuEzHS8

  72. lisab says:

    i don’t think the current dem candidates support john moon

  73. Paul says:

    The dem candidates who are veterans would disagree.

  74. Tina says:

    Oh no.

    The skateboarder has ended his run.

  75. dblaikie says:

    Just heard on Fox News that on the day they voted on their so-called partisan impeachment inquiry the Trump Campaign raised 3 million dollars online. In fact in the impeachment month of October the Campaign has raised 19 million dollars just online. That doesn’t include other streams of contributions.

    If they don’t take Trump out, all they have done is create a monster. By the time of the Iowa Caucus I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump had over 200 million cash on hand. Unlike most politicians like Jeb Bush, Donald Trump will know how to put that cash to maximum effect. And of course this will carry over into the Republican Party.

    Looking back, I wouldn’t be surprised for future historians to claim that the best thing the Democrats did for Donald Trump and the GOP was to try and impeach him in a totally partisan procedure.

  76. dblaikie says:

    It gets even better. At the end of the third quarter the Democratic Party had 8.2 million on hand while the GOP had 53.8 million. In fact since Trump had 156 million on hand at the end of the third quarter I am going to up my estimate to 250 million cash on hand for the Campaign by the Iowa Caucus.

  77. Wes says:

    Beto drops out.

    Next stop: MSNBC.

  78. dblaikie says:

    It turns out that Lt. Col. Vindman was making anti-American statements way back in 2012. So much so that he was reprimanded by his superior officer Jim Hickman. Vindman is guy who no one should question because he has a Purple Heart. Here is what Hickman heard Vindman saying: “He was apologetic of American culture, laughed about Americans not being educated or worldly, & really talked up Obama & globalism to the point of uncomfortable. He would speak w/the Russian Soldiers & laugh as if at the expense of the US personnel.”

    What an impartial guy!

  79. Phil says:

    Is there not anyone (friends or family members) that can talk to Joe and get him out of the race? He’s making a fool out of himself.

  80. mnw says:

    I started to type that you guys had a trifecta of trolls here, & only 80 posts in!

    However, on further cursory inspection, it’s even worse. You seem to have a troll quadrafecta.

    This is a troll-friendly site, that’s for sure. You guys have now lured back trolls who haven’t posted here in some time.

    Continue enjoying your constant interaction with these giants. I’m sure you learn SOOO much from messy, paul, TIPW, CG, & Proudobama. /s

    I’ll say this for RRH, trolls are gone forever after one post. It all depends how you want to invest your leisure time. And it has some effect on… site traffic, perhaps?

  81. Messy says:

    69. Typical response from the alt right hoaxers. Out of context and deliberately misunderstood.

  82. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    80. We are now in November 2019, and the primaries are about to begin. The Democrats are in complete disarray. The former frontrunner talks to blank screens, and the other leading candidates are so left wing that they might be unelectable. No one is in charge in the Democratic Party; its leadership is fractured and heading in different directions.
    It might be Trump’s race to lose, but he is totally capable of doing so.

  83. Tina says:

    The former front runner talks to blank screens,

    Lol, but so true.

    All they need to add is that the Russians made him do it to get the jebots fully in board.

  84. Wes says:

    The Advocate demands Eddie Rispone apologize for something Rispone didn’t do:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/opinion/our_views/article_e472fb60-fce1-11e9-b35a-4bc356e5fbb0.amp.html

    It claims Rispone demeaned Edwards’ military service when in fact Rispone explicitly said Edwards demeaned service at West Point by becoming a trial lawyer.

    Was it a gaffe?

    Perhaps a minor.

    Did Rispone say something tasteless?

    That’s arguable.

    It was NOT, however, an attack on Edwards’ military service.

    The Advocate should apologize to Rispone for yellow journalism.

  85. Phil says:

    Come on, Tina. Everyone give speeches to blank screens. Perfectly Normal.

  86. Victrc says:

    It’s ironic and sickening to see how all of a sudden liberals are worried about some members of the military and care about the constitution when they have loathed both forever.

    It’s like Russia. They loved it when it was communist and when Obama was president

  87. Victrc says:

    So have you seen the latest tweets and article by the Post and independent in London. Now they are saying that Trumo is trying t discredit the Mueller report by investigating the genesis of the 2016 Russian hacking, therefore they admit that Russia helped Trump, thereby solidifying the need to impeach.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

    What he’s investigating is the role the previous admin and DNC had in creating false information which led to the investigation of wrong doings that never occurred. It’s maddening

  88. Big Joe says:

    #66 Vic-
    Yes you’re right. You are referring to the “VEP” (Voting-eligible population) and I did acknowledge that it’s a better metric than total population, though total population does allow for general trend analysis.

    So looking at VEP, here’s what I found:
    VEP 2008: 213M (source: http://www.electproject.org/2008g)
    VEP 2012: 222M (source: http://www.electproject.org/2012g)
    VEP 2016: 231M (source: http://www.electproject.org/2016g)
    VEP 2020 (my projection): 240M (seems VEP goes up by 9M every cycle so 240M seems reasonable)

    Simple cross-multiplication tells us that 60M votes in 2008 would be equivalent to 67.6M votes in 2020.

    Interestingly, it appears that VEP is increasing at a faster clip than Total Population.

    Just for kicks and giggles, an Obama ’08 Dem turnout in 2020 would be equivalent to 77.7M.

    Of course, this is a national figure. Individual state-specific VEP’s would vary and offer greater insights. But ain’t nobody got time for that!

    Draw whatever conclusions you like. Cheers! 😀

    Big Joe

  89. Tina says:

    M.Joseph Sheppard
    ?

    @SHEPMJS
    50m50 minutes ago
    More
    From the Harvard Uni. Poll

    “Approve Trump’s Economy 57% Approve his job stimulation 58%”

    “Personal Finances 73% (Improved 38% As before 35%)

    D+5 Poll “Impeach & Remove 45%”
    1 reply 8 retweets 13 likes
    Reply 1 Retweet 8 Like 13

    M.Joseph Sheppard
    ?

    @SHEPMJS
    53m53 minutes ago
    More
    Update;
    Harvard University Trump Approval 46% in D+5 poll

  90. Tina says:

    Yes, the big Ugly has begun,

    Steve Herman
    ?
    Verified account

    @W7VOA
    Follow Follow @W7VOA
    More
    Asked if he regrets calling Lt. Col. Vindman a “Never Trumper,” @POTUS replies: “You’ll be seeing very soon what comes out. Then you can ask.”
    4:38 PM – 2 Nov 2019

  91. JeffP says:

    94 Tina…I am thinking Spy Gate is of such corrupt magnitude and whistleblower hoax so obviously a deep state effort to Barr that He has to give updates to Trump to help protect him and prepare for the fall out that is coming,

  92. JeffP says:

    Joe just needs to go home to spend time with his family. Just saw a video of him speaking to a big screen with his back to the crowd…he could not tell the difference…OMG….poor guy.

  93. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Al-Baghdadi’s last works: “Do you guys hear a dog barking or is it just men?”

  94. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    98. “me”

  95. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Pelosi:”Why didn’t Trump tell me about the plan to kill Al-Baghdadi?”

    Al-Baghdadi: “Same reason he didn’t tell me.”

  96. Bitterlaw says:

    Deep State? Zzzzzzzzz

    If there was a Deep State, we would not know about it. That is the point of a Deep State.

    I had a more interesting night at The Hooters concert.

  97. lisab says:

    the deep state is not mossad …

    it is just government employees who do what they want instead of what the current administration wants them to do

  98. lisab says:

    comey is case in point

    he had the choice of treating hillary’s emails as a serious breach of security

    or

    as a non-serious threat that did not deserve to be investigated thoroughly

    he chose the latter

  99. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Sen. Marsha Blackburn@MarshaBlackburn Oct 31

    @HouseDemocrats have been holding a closed-door investigation in @RepAdamSchiff’s basement. After facing intense flak, their #KangarooCourt has now turned into a full-fledged fishing expedition to find any reason to mask that the American people duly elected @realDonaldTrump.

  100. Tina says:

    Per Mark Halperin, he has interviewed many Drat operatives, who indicate that they cannot beat trump in 2020.

    FWIW.

  101. Tina says:

    Hmm, great point.

    Matt Taibbi
    ?
    Verified account

    @mtaibbi
    Follow Follow @mtaibbi
    More
    “[Vindman] told lawmakers that he was deeply troubled by what he interpreted as an attempt by the president to subvert U.S. foreign policy.” Doesn’t the president set U.S. foreign policy?

  102. Bitterlaw says:

    If there is a Deep State, it sucks. We deserve a better Deep State with enough professionalism to not be discovered.

  103. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe Transparent Dem Troll was running Deep State.

  104. Wes says:

    Any predictions for Tuesday?

    I’ll give mine:

    Bevin-51; Beshear-48

    Reeves-54; Hood-45

    Republicans win all other statewide offices in both states by double digits—except KYAG. They win that 52-47.

    Dems complete their domination of VA on Tuesday by going to 56-44 in the State House and 22-18 in the State Senate. The VAGOP is rapidly becoming as irrelevant to state politics as it was from the end of Reconstruction till 1969.

  105. Wes says:

    I almost forgot about the cesspool euphemistically called a state known as New Jersey.

    Liberal corruption continues to dominate the epicenter of world corruption as more corrupt Democrats enter the state legislature. I don’t really care about specific numbers because they’re irrelevant. Voters will continue to vote for big-spending, high-taxing corruption and like it. Honestly we should just launch a few H-bombs at the Land of Corruption and be done with it. Irradiating that corrupt Sewer would actually be an exponential improvement.

  106. John says:

    With September’s numbers revised higher wages has now increased at ‘least 3% for 15 straight months’
    And ‘more moderate gains reported for the tenure under Barrack Obama were further revised down.
    https://www.peoplespunditdaily.com/news/economy/2019/11/01/wages-have-increased-by-at-least-3-for-15-straight-months-october-revised-higher-september/

  107. John says:

    Speaking of upcoming elections – Louisiana’s gubernatorial general election (Edwards/Rispone) is slated for Nov. 16 but early voting started yesterday (Nov. 2)

  108. Tina says:

    Maybe, Bl, comedy, Mulehead, McCabe, Pete and the mistress, were not orofessi9mal.

    Multiple parties screwed the other, literally and figuratively.

  109. Tina says:

    Every time he speaks he messes up, but at least he did not speak to walls this time:

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    While in Iowa, Joe Biden says he is in “Ohio”
    https://youtu.be/3MHFZMLyNwg

  110. Phil says:

    The impeachment stuff is designed to erode Trump’s numbers among independents. Nothing more and nothing less. And, of course, everyone knows he won’t be convicted in the Senate. He won indies 45-42 in 2016 over Hillary according to the exits. That’s the Democrats’ and their media stooges’ target. Impeachment won’t effect Democratic or Republicans either way. In fact, it will only serve to harden and drive up Republican turnout and juice Trump’s fund raising numbers…and I mean REALLY juice them. Democrats were already juiced due to Trump Derangement. They won’t benefit nearly as much.

    Look for the impeachment vote to take place in the House around Christmas. Expect Republicans to vote 100% against and on the actual vote to impeach…and the Democrats voting no will rise from two to 6-8. I see no Republican defections in the Senate to actually vote to remove and that includes Romney. There will be at least two certain Democratic defections in Manchin and Jones with a possibility of one more in the senator from Arizona. That’s an absolute max of 45 votes in the Senate to remove. 45-55 or 44-56 won’t be very impressive when the trial ends in late February or early March. Impeachment will have served Trump’s purpose in the long run – Because of it he will have a pissed off angry base that will crawl over broken glass to support him.

    Either the left hasn’t fully gamed this out or they are so enraged that it has totally warped their political judgement.

  111. Phil says:

    Will someone who is close to Biden please pull Joe aside and talk some sense to him to get him out of the race? This is sad.

  112. Hugh says:

    New fox poll has crazy joe blowing out trump. Fox News needs to rethink their business model. I barely watch them anymore and no longer go to their website. Their true colors are coming out as they move left.

  113. Phil says:

    The Fox polls are always D+8 and this one is no exception, D+8 right on the money. The Party ID in 2016 according to the exits was D+3.

    I’m not a big fan of reweighting polls but this one doesn’t pass the smell test. It also has Sanders blowing out Trump. That to me is just confirmation to me that the poll is hot garbage.

  114. Bitterlaw says:

    Nobody pulled Trump aside when he talked about building a wall on the Colorado/Mexico border. Nobody is talking Biden out of running. Republicans think Biden is old and losing it. Democrats think Biden occasionally makes poor statements because he is passionate and tirelessly working to save the country.

  115. John says:

    And according to this poll ‘across 6 battleground states voters oppose impeaching and removing Trump from office, 52-44%’
    https://scri.siena.edu/2019/10/30/across-6-battleground-states-voters-oppose-impeaching-removing-trump-52-44/

  116. Phil says:

    Biden talking to a screen because he was tirelessly working to save the country.

    Hmmm. Not how I’d choose to go about saving the country but sure, let’s go with that one.

  117. Tina says:

    Yeah talking to wall and mentioning how a border wall in az by extension. helps folks in other states is comparable. Lol.

  118. Tina says:

    How many are in Chiba Bidens crowd in Iowa uh Ohio or wherever he is in his mind.

    Maybe 20 including 12 press and a screen

  119. Bitterlaw says:

    Nice revisionism, Tina. Trump put the wall on the Colorado border. It was a mistake. Not a huge deal but you can’t admit any Trump error.

  120. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes said I am right? That is a rare thing indeed.

  121. Wes says:

    I know, Bitter. It is rare when you’re right. That’s why I rarely acknowledge your being right.

  122. Bitterlaw says:

    I already made the joke, Wes. Keep up.

  123. lisab says:

    don’t forget this scandal

    Trump’s driver’s license casts doubt on height claims

    Donald Trump and his doctor claim he’s 6-foot-3, but his New York driver’s license says he’s actually an inch shorter.

    A copy of Trump’s license, obtained by POLITICO through an open-records request, lists the president-elect at 6-foot-2.

  124. lisab says:

    Modern Warfare 2019 censoring players now by claiming “republican” is profanity.

  125. lisab says:

    Ronan Farrow: Bill Clinton ‘credibly accused of rape’ by Juanita Broaddrick

    and just like that ronan farrow decided to commit suicide

  126. Wes says:

    You were vague, Bitter. I had to clarify. I guess English is a secondary language for Northeastern lawyers.