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Election Night Thread

Three big elections tonight that I am watching. Can Matt Bevin keep his seat as the Governor of Kentucky. Will Tate Reeves be able to hold off Jim Hood and keep this gubernatorial seat in GOP hands. And will Virginia turn the Senate and House of Delegates in Virginia over the Democrats where Republicans currently hold one-vote margins in both houses going into this election.

Current polling on the Kentucky and Mississippi aces can be found by clicking the states under the banner above.

Posted by Dave at 6:00 pm
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807 Responses to “Election Night Thread”

  1. Wes says:

    VA Republicans are doomed. I say Bevin wins 51-48 while Reeves wins by a more substantial 54-45.

  2. Wes says:

    Beshear is up by 8.6% over Bevin in early returns. Bevin needs a major Election Day haul to overcome the Dems’ early voting advantage.

  3. Wes says:

    Oh, boy. Bevin is running well behind his 2015 showing in several early counties. He’d better make up for it elsewhere.

  4. BayernFan says:

    in indianapolis, the early vote is heavily democratic.

  5. Bitterlaw says:

    4 is why early voting is absurd. Giving Dems extra days or weeks to vote is like the Titanic backing up and hitting the iceberg a few more times hoping for a better result.

  6. Wes says:

    Beshear is up by 25,400 in Fayette County (Lexington). Conway won the county by 10,000 votes in 2015. Bevin had better hope the remaining 44% of the vote favors him enough to cut into this margin.

  7. Hugh says:

    Where can I get results

  8. Wes says:

    Click the link I posted in 3, Hugh.

  9. Blobbie says:

    If Bevin loses today it proves that Trump will lose in 2020.

  10. Hugh says:

    Wants me to set up an account

  11. BayernFan says:

    anyone have a link to results that you don’t have to register to see?

  12. Wes says:

    It’s a free account, Hugh. I just logged in with my Facebook account and started getting the results.

  13. Bitterlaw says:

    I am proud to be an American. It’s pretty stupid to waste time being proud of any race or religion since none are perfect. Nancy Pelosi is white and I take no pride in sharing a skin color with her.

  14. Tina says:

    Rand Paul says he will out gossip blower.

    Goober now says he has no jurisdiction to subpoena China and Crack Rock Biden.

  15. Wes says:

    Bevin has now cut Beshear’s margin to 2200.

  16. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Van crack admits major error in Flynn case.

    Undercover Huber
    ?

    @JohnWHuber
    10m10 minutes ago
    More
    Undercover Huber Retweeted Undercover Huber
    Looks like we have a winner: the DOJ just admitted to @SidneyPowell1 that the handwritten notes it identified as written by Peter Strzok were *actually written by Joe Pientka*. That’s cool, it’s not a major felony case against a 30 year veteran and 3 star general or anything ?????

  17. Wes says:

    Here I thought we were discussing the election returns.

  18. Bitterlaw says:

    Good for Rand Paul. Rand Paul is a RINO. Both can be true.

  19. Tina says:

    Actually, any R with balls can do it.

    No consequences either.

  20. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Tina is has been focused on one issue for almost 3 years. That is not going to change tonight.

  21. Tina says:

    Goober could also subpoena Soviet Schiffty, if he had balls.

    Elise Stefanik
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    Verified account

    @EliseStefanik
    10h10 hours ago
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    I was the first Member to ask when Adam Schiff had access to the whistleblower & it’s now clear there was significant coordination between the whistleblower and Schiff’s Democratic staff. Our 1st witness must be Adam Schiff. Watch my interview from this AM with @foxandfriends ?

  22. Wes says:

    Point taken, Bitter.

  23. John says:

    Kentucky 6% in…
    Bevin 53.1%
    Beshear 45%

  24. Tina says:

    Sorry, the mixup of 302s since 2018 by corrupt fib trumps election results at this moment.

  25. VictrC says:

    I see it at Bevin 77K. Beshear 66K

    Anyone have something more update than that

  26. VictrC says:

    Now 79K to 70K with 13% in

  27. Bitterlaw says:

    CNN and MSNBC have the best Map Guys.

    “Rachel, if you look at the 400 block of Maple Street in Louisville, you can see that Mr. Johnson, Chuck the barber, and BoBo (Chuck’s cousin) have not voted yet.”

  28. VictrC says:

    97k v 86K Bevin

    Wes, thoughts

  29. Bitterlaw says:

    27 proves 23.

  30. Wes says:

    Where are you getting this, Vic? The sites I’m checking still say Beshear is leading, although his margin is dropping.

  31. Tina says:

    You do realize that you were first to break “imaginary” thread rules?

    pm
    I am proud to be an American. It’s pretty stupid to waste time being proud of any race or religion since none are perfect. Nancy Pelosi is white and I take no pride in sharing a skin color with her.

  32. Victrc says:

    On CNN of all places, are your totals at high as I’m seeing. There it is 106K v 96K

  33. Wes says:

    Thanks, Vic.

  34. Wes says:

    Bevin is up by ~20,000. That’s certainly good for him.

  35. VictrC says:

    25% in. Bevin 52.1%. Bahsear 45.9%

  36. BayernFan says:

    Weird, bc CNN hasn’t counted Jefferson county but the other one has votes from Jefferson county.

  37. Victrc says:

    What are the numbers from Jefferson county in the other sites?

  38. Will says:

    CNN had some Jefferson co glitch. Votes went away

  39. Tina says:

    Trafslgar predicted Bevin by 7.

  40. BayernFan says:

    6700-3400 dem

  41. Tina says:

    M.Joseph Sheppard
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    @SHEPMJS
    2m2 minutes ago
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    at 25% in still early but I like it (and i suspect so do you)
    Bevin
    Incumbent
    53.1%
    131,733
    Beshear
    44.9%
    111,436

  42. VictrC says:

    147K v 125K

    What were the numbers in 2015

  43. NYCmike says:

    I thought the election night wasn’t official until Lord Arsehat tells us about the early exit polls,

  44. Wes says:

    For what it’s worth, RRH just called all KY races other than Governor and SOS for the GOP.

  45. Tina says:

    M.Joseph Sheppard
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    @SHEPMJS
    9s9 seconds ago
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    Lexington to come for Dems but still
    Bevin
    Incumbent
    53.4%
    157,944
    Beshear
    44.5%
    131,730
    Hicks
    2.1%
    6,085

  46. VictrC says:

    So in 2015 Bevin lost Jefferson county by 40K votes 112K v 74K. His lead so far is about that so he might be able to hold on if the rest of the state goes 50/50 rest of the night

  47. Wes says:

    Bevin is up by 28,000+. That’s good.

  48. NYCmike says:

    Does anyone have any experience with ranked voting?

    I voted against it in NYC today, as I can’t see how it would help the Republican/conservative candidate.

  49. NYCmike says:

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/11/poll-trump-beats-democrats-swing-state-biden-warren-sanders.html

    -I wonder if they ran into “CG” over there…..of course, since he is “white”, he would keep his head down or else be accused of being TOO PROUD!

  50. Wes says:

    No personal experience here, Mikey , but Republicans lost ME-2 last year because of it.

  51. VictrC says:

    Bevin is running substantially behind his numbers in a number of counties like Kenton Pulaski and Oldham.

    I am not sure he holds on, but if he does its going to be very very close

  52. VictrC says:

    From what I see voter turnout is way up over 2015. For instance in a small county like greenup in 2015 Bevin won 4400 – 3100. Tonight its 5900 – 5100.

    Seeing that across other counties as well.

  53. Tina says:

    M.Joseph Sheppard
    ?

    @SHEPMJS
    2m2 minutes ago
    More
    NB CNN way out ahead of all other reporting outlets-surely they are not wrong
    Bevin back up to 9 at 33% in +38000

    Bevin
    Incumbent
    53.4%
    157,944
    Beshear
    44.5%
    131,730
    Hicks
    2.1%
    6,085

  54. Victrc says:

    In Kenton country Bevin won in 2015 18,000 – 12,000 tonight, with 65% in he’s losing 17,000 – 15,000

    Not a good sign at all.

  55. VictrC says:

    Ok. Franklin county is all in.

    In 2015 it went against Bevin 9800 – 5900.
    Tonight it went against Bevin 12800 – 7500

    So Dems picked up 3000 votes and Bevin 2600. So that keeps about pace from 2015. If Louisville area holds the same as 2015 then Bevin wins. But by smaller than his 9% in 2015. Maybe by 3 – 4%

  56. JeffP says:

    Bevin has this….no problem.

  57. EML says:

    Kentucky is hard to predict. County results are mixed. Overall, turnout is way up over 2015. Bevin up in some, down in others. County results for him seem to point to a loss, but he goes up by more every time I refresh results. Louisville and Lexington will sink him in the end.

  58. VictrC says:

    Bunch came in from Louisville and just like that the margin shrinks to 5% or roughly a 32K vote lead. That’s not going to hold up.

    He’s also behind in Warren county, one he won by a healthy margin in 2015.

  59. Tina says:

    20k lead 55%in.

  60. VictrC says:

    I’m with EML. I don’t see how he overcomes Louisville and Lexington at this point. They held out their votes to see what they needed (typical Dem strategy). Going off of the difference between 2015 and 2019 he’s running about 7% behind in each location. That results in about 40K more lost votes than expected, which should be enough to make him lose given how he’s running behind in other counties.

    Did he run a bad campaign because the rest of the ticket did great.

  61. Tina says:

    Down to 6k.

  62. VictrC says:

    …and on cue Lexington’s votes are in and Bashear takes the lead. I think at this point it’s over. Not enough rural votes to beat what’s left in Louisville, this is going to turn out to be a fairly easy win for Bashear

    Wow. MSM is going to spin this despite the fact that this is a Ron Paul clone and not a real republican who should have won easily .

  63. EML says:

    Don’t understand how these easten Kentucky counties are still voting for communists.

  64. Tina says:

    Coal country sunk him?

  65. CG says:

    *clears throat*

  66. BayernFan says:

    lets just count the votes and see where things are at the end.

  67. VictrC says:

    Calling it.

    He’s down 20K with more votes still to come in from Louisville. Not enough left out there for him to make up the difference.

    Oh well. Pyrrhic victory in that we lose a Ron Paul nut job, though its a shame to a Dem which the MSM can spin.

    Let’s hope MS comes out better.

  68. BayernFan says:

    how is Virginia doing?

  69. Wes says:

    Trump went all in for Bevin at the end. Assuming current results hold and Bevin loses the Dems can plausibly spin this as a rejection of Trump.

    More concerning is that since 1991 with the exception of 1999, KY-Gov has been the bellwether for the following year’s presidential election. That doesn’t bode well for Trump.

  70. VictrC says:

    The Fat lady has sung and Bevin has lost.

    Let the Trolls and squishy R’s come in and rejoice at a Republican loss.

    No mention of the fact that the R’s swept every other race, most by a 60%-40% margin.

  71. Proud Obamacon says:

    #BLUE.WAVE.COMIN’

    Damn, a WIN in the cesspool known as Kentucky. People finally wake up to Orange’s lies about coal.

    I think we’re about to crush it in Virginia.

    Mississippi is a lost cause because of the Jim Crow laws. Yall racists can move to Mississippi and secede. Bye.

    #BLUE.WAVE.COMIN’

  72. Wes says:

    Wasserman calls it for Beshear.

  73. Wes says:

    Dems will lose MS because of Jim Crow laws, huh?

    Laws not in effect since Johnson was President will cause Hood to lose?

    Where do I even begin with this?

  74. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Laws not in effect since Johnson was President will cause Hood to lose?”

    And what happened during the Johnson administration? It’s ok, I’ll walk you through this.

    #BLUE.WAVE!!!

  75. Bitterlaw says:

    What”s up with voters who go to the polls to elect other Republicans but not Bevin?

    So, will Trump be roasting Bevin on Twitter and saying it has nothing to do with him? I say “yes.”

  76. Wes says:

    The destruction of Dem dominance in the South and the beginning of GOP electoral resurgence after a series of electoral wipeouts since the New Deal, PO.

    I’m sure you’re just going to focus on the 1964 results—which, while substantial for the Dems, set the stage for Republicans to begin winning in places they had previously never been electorally viable in.

    Just some things to think about.

  77. Tina says:

    Ryan Saavedra
    ?
    @RealSaavedra
    BREAKING: Republican Daniel Cameron has won the race to become Kentucky’s Attorney General

    He is the first Republican to be elected as Kentucky’s AG in over 70 years

    He is the first African-American to be elected to Kentucky AG

  78. lisab says:

    What”s up with voters who go to the polls to elect other Republicans but not Bevin?
    ———————-

    bevin wanted to cut government employee pensions and make them 401ks

  79. Proud Obamacon says:

    Wes, Quick history lesson for you, sport. In Mississippi, to win the governor, the candidate needs to win the popular vote AND win a majority of the over 100 house districts. This was put into the books during the 19th Century, yes Jim Crow. It was put into law specifically to disenfranchise blacks. It has worked well. You should move to your Jim Crow paradise known as Mississippi.

    #BLUE.WAVE.BABY!

  80. Wes says:

    Well, I guess now that Bevin is about to lose, Mikey can still brag Bevin lost to McConnell by ONLY 25% in 2014.

  81. Wes says:

    I’m aware of the law—which courts just struck down the portion of requiring the Governor to win most State House seats, PO. You really should keep up with current events.

  82. BayernFan says:

    Bevin behind 15,000 and closing. Louisville 96% in.

  83. Proud Obamacon says:

    “I’m aware of the law—which courts just struck down the portion of requiring the Governor to win most State House seats”

    Oh really? Alternate facts again? Wow.

    #BLUE.WAVE.BABY!

  84. BayernFan says:

    13,000

  85. Victrc says:

    Bayern

    I think he only has about 5Kmore votes left out there so the margin will be close.

    Had he done better in counties he won in 2015 like Warren he could have won

  86. Marv says:

    Hicks is the problem right now.

  87. Wes says:

    My mistake:

    https://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/politics/2019/11/01/mississippi-elections-judge-wont-block-jim-crow-era-law-hood-reeves-governor-race/4122284002/

    The judge expressed concerns about the law but said he couldn’t place an injunction against it this close to the election. However, he did advise the losing party to appeal his ruling and said he may rule against the law depending on the results.

  88. Marv says:

    Victrc,

    Nice to see you posting here again.

    I monitor the site daily, but post much less often that before.

  89. Proud Obamacon says:

    ” However, he did advise the losing party to appeal his ruling and said he may rule against the law depending on the results.”

    Dafuq? What kind of ruling is that? Only in Jim Crow country would you ever see a ruling like that.

    #BLUE.WAVE.BABY!

  90. Wes says:

    As expected, Dems are massacring Republicans in the VA Legislature.

  91. Wes says:

    He’s a federal judge, PO. I’m guessing he said he’d rule against the law if either Hood or Reeves wins the popular vote without winning a majority of State House districts.

  92. Proud Obamacon says:

    Translation: The black guy may actually win so I better keep the Jim Crow law in place. A low that I am so “concerned” about.

    What a disgrace.

  93. BayernFan says:

    9000

  94. Proud Obamacon says:

    … A LAW …

  95. Wes says:

    When did Jim Hood become black?

  96. VictrC says:

    so the election in KY was lost in Louisville. Bevin has about the same vote total he had in 2015. 83K this year. 78K in 2015, Bashear though has more than 60K more votes than the Dem did in 2015,

    That is the election right there. That makes up 60% of the difference from the two years

  97. CG says:

    “And Down the Stretch they Come!”

  98. Wes says:

    Damn! PO is right!

    Jim Hood can pass for Stevie Wonder’s twin brother:

    https://ballotpedia.org/Jim_Hood

  99. BayernFan says:

    absentees and military maybe?

  100. Wes says:

    Bevin ran behind his previous showing in the rurals, Vic. That did him in.

  101. Proud Obamacon says:

    “When did Jim Hood become black?”

    The overwhelming choice of black voters is what i should have said.

    #BLUE.WAVE!

  102. VictrC says:

    Wes. What results in VA do you see.

    Right now it looks like 52-48 D in the state house.

    They are leading in 8 fo the 10 tossups as of now, and overall vote total is 665K – 609K

  103. Wes says:

    I’m going by what RRH just posted, Vic. They said Dems are continuing to expand their majorities in the legislature. That implies to me the chambers have already flipped and are only going further to the Dems.

  104. Wes says:

    How ironic is it that both PO and MS blacks support a guy named Hood for Magnolia State Governor?

  105. CG says:

    Remember, Robbie said he thought Bevin would win by three and you all were hoping he would be right..

    There was only one person who dared to predict…..

  106. dblaikie says:

    Still two counties have not reported — Ballard and Grayson. Difference is less than one point — recount coming.

  107. Bitterlaw says:

    IF Bevin loses, can we conclude he sucked as a candidate or will it be because of fraud (even though the GOP romped in other races in KY)?

  108. Proud Obamacon says:

    ” or will it be because of fraud”

    Obviously fraud. Didn’t you see the millions of illegal hispanics being bussed in from California? LOL

  109. CG says:

    Trump will blame McConnell

  110. CG says:

    Tina will blame McConnell

    NYC will blame McConnell

  111. Wes says:

    It’s clearly because of fraud, Bitter. No Republican can ever lose legitimately by a point or less.

  112. Tina says:

    He sucked, Bl, since the Rs won the other my races, including the historical Ag race.

    32 percent approval?

    Is that true?

  113. Marv says:

    Politics and sports are quite similar.

    Sometimes your team loses, so you just suck it up and try to win next time.

  114. VictrC says:

    CG

    Only one to blame is Bevin himself. Some polls had him down 8 earlier in the cycle so obviously he was a flawed candidate. Have to admit, after seeing Louisville come in I thought it would be a blowout, but now looks like a couple thousand votes.

    Wes is correct, it wasn’t just the extra 60K votes in Louisville, it was his underperforming in counties he won in 2015,

    The good news is it looks like the bench is deep for 2023.

  115. BayernFan says:

    7000 Ballard left

  116. Marv says:

    Hey Tina,

    Trip to HI any time soon?

  117. BayernFan says:

    6000 everything pretty much in

  118. Tina says:

    No Marv, foot issue .

    I cannot make it, maybe in the spring.

  119. CG says:

    Also looks like a much bigger than expected turnout, and much like 2018, a very bad result for Republicans in the white-collar suburbs.

    Bevin was always a bad candidate. But his win four years ago foreshadowed something. Now, the same can perhaps be said with his apparent defeat.

    And again, I am the only one who went out on the limb to say he would lose. (Don’t worry I also predicted Reeves would win.) I also won here with 2018 predictions. So, I am sure this will all be kept in mind for when I predict next year.

  120. CG says:

    Bevin really tried to nationalize this. Trump was there of course last night talking about impeachment and himself. He said if Beshear lost, it would be the “worst thing in the world” for Trump.

    Bevin has been going around calling Beshear the “Hunter Biden of Kentucky.”

    Well, it’s more like the George W. Bush of Kentucky now.

  121. VictrC says:

    Yeah,.,. It looks like at the end of the day that it will be a 5,000 or so vote differential. I don’t know if all the military vote is counted, that might be his saving grace for a close victory.

    Anyone know what’s the deal with absentee and military votes?

  122. Marv says:

    Tina,

    Mai Tais at the Royal Hawaiian will help solve your foot problem.

  123. Wes says:

    I actually expected Bevin to win since he had exploited Beshear’s lazy campaign and pulled even or ahead in late polling. Clearly Bevin engendered strong dislike in voters and couldn’t overcome it.

  124. CG says:

    Come on Robbie! I hope you make an appearance soon, even if you were wrong on this.

    This is the election that you (or an imposter) should have said you would show up to gloat about!

    And yeah, maybe Beshear will suck as a Governor, but at least he’s not JB Pritzker.

  125. Tina says:

    I heard that one, Marv. I just cannot make the trip though.

  126. Wes says:

    I predicted Dems would go to 56-44 in the VA State House and 21-19 in the State Senate. I nailed the State Senate and came close in the State House. It went Dem 54-46.

  127. CG says:

    Apparently Fox News has forgotten there was an election tonight.

    Relaxing night for the correspondent they sent to Bevin HQ. I hope he can enjoy some Mint Juleps.

  128. Tina says:

    Maybe Soviet Schiffty would go to Court to try to endorse his “subpoena.”

    Quote Tweet

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    · 8h
    NEW: The House committees overseeing Trump’s impeachment inquiry have requested a Nov. 8 interview from acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney. https://axios.com/mick-mulvaney-donald-trump-impeachment-interview-request-39a713e3-d538-4a02-9712-dc9176f28ebc.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic

  129. Tina says:

    ·
    10h
    ABC News had everything on Epstein *three years ago* and spiked the story… including stuff on the Clintons.

    And
    @ABC
    ‘s chief political news anchor is George Stephanopoulos, former advisor to Clinton.

    Not a great look for ABC News. #EpsteinCoverup

  130. Tina says:

    He and his brother, Fidel, need to be in jail.

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    NEW: Julian Castro lays off teams in several states
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  131. CG says:

    So, will Trump cancel his visit to Louisiana now?

    Their party is already behind the 8 ball there…. He doesn’t like to be blamed..

  132. CG says:

    I know this…. KFC is dead to Trump.

  133. BayernFan says:

    GOP is getting CRUSHED in Indianapolis. With 76% in, GOP mayor candidate is mustering only 28% of the vote. GOP is also losing 5 seats (including the minority leader) to go from 11 to 6 in the 25 seat Coity-County Council. Yikes.

  134. Robbie says:

    How’s Trumpism working for Virginia, Trumpaloos?

    As for Bevin, he spent four years mimicking Trump on issues (gun, abortion, much socialism) and four years mimicking Trump’s jerk-like behavior. And he lost.

  135. Robbie says:

    The regular Republican Party (ie the normal Republicans) won every statewide race in Kentucky. The one Republicans running on Trumpism lost.

  136. CG says:

    There’s Robbie!

    Yes. These Trump apologists needs to learn some hard lessons tonight and think very long and hard about what next year might look like… that anecdote from Indianapolis ought to be pretty chilling too regarding all sorts of urban/suburban areas.

    Plus Robbie, I predicted your Governor race correctly.

  137. VictrC says:

    Wes

    Are those results final in VA. I see it as 22-18 in the Senate. Maybe I’m missing something

    What do you make of the fact that there were more votes for Republicans than Democrats? anything to be drawn from that?

  138. CG says:

    So much winning…

    Under Trump, Republicans have lost the Governorships of Kansas, Nevada, New Mexico, New Jersey, Illinois, Maine, Wisconsin, Michigan, and now, Kentucky.

    But yes to be fair, Republicans did get Alaska and got the weird dude in WV (according to Cash Cow) to switch parties.

  139. Phil says:

    Our two Never Trumpers are giddy.

    Congrats guts on the Democratic Victory.

  140. Tina says:

    Giddy indeed.

    Do you get a free cruise ship with the socialist son?

  141. CG says:

    Allison Lundergan-Grimes (remember her?) on CNN now in her official role as SOS to call the race and trash talk Trump.

  142. Phil says:

    Yeah, I remember her. She got mud stomped by 20 pts by the turtle. She also gets to turn over her office to a Republican. What about her?

  143. CG says:

    Seriously, not a word on Fox News about Kentucky since Special Report went off the air three hours ago.

    They seem to be under the impression that Trump might be watching them and they don’t want to upset him.

  144. Phil says:

    Yeah, that’s it.

  145. CG says:

    I’m saying she went on CNN and went full party hack. She explained the recount process but basically said there would not be much that could be done. She pointed out the Bevin initially won the nomination for Governor four years ago by 85 votes, so he is familiar with what is close and what is not.

  146. CG says:

    Beshear is declaring victory looking like a Smurf.

    Weird lighting there. Bluegrass or bluelights?

  147. Phil says:

    Bevin lost. 5000 votes might as well be 50,000. Thought he might pull through even with a 30% approval rating. Good riddence.

  148. Tina says:

    I am celebrating like its 2008 all over again.

    -Jebot

  149. Tina says:

    Impeachment support collapses in Monmouth poling

    At this time, 44% of Americans feel that Trump should be impeached and compelled to leave the presidency, while 51% disagree with this course of action.

    Trust in the Soviet inquiry is:

    24% a lot of trust
    29% a little trust
    44% no trust

  150. Tina says:

    Is this attorney threatening a senator? Gossipblower has no right to privacy.

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  151. Phil says:

    I would say one result of the Va returns is you can now expect Va to join the popular vote state compact.

  152. Tina says:

    Basically no to little trust in the Soviet inquisition willl cause support for peach ent to fall further.

    That is why the subpoenas are a sham and Botox ic refusing to vote.

  153. lisab says:

    did ap just reverse its call on bevin

  154. lisab says:

    what is the difference between california and the titanic?

    the titanic had its lights on when it sank

  155. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    You can kiss a frog, but it still has warts. If Kentucky voters really did not want Bevin re-elected, a visit by Trump would not change their minds.

    Trump meet with Kevin Faulconer, the Republican mayor of San Diego recently, who I dislike. If Trump endorsed him in a political race, I still would not vote for Faulconer.

    The Republicans appear to have won the other political races in Kentucky. The problem was Bevin.

  156. Bitterlaw says:

    Democrats are about to take over the Delaware County Council (PA) for the first time in history. Tell me again how the Democrats’ rage in the suburbs is not real. Delaware County was a bastion of the GOP.

  157. Bitterlaw says:

    Doesn’t Trump have any advisors who could tell him that Bevin sucks and he should not go to his rally?

  158. lisab says:

    Democrats are about to take over the Delaware County Council (PA) for the first time in history. Tell me again how the Democrats’ rage in the suburbs is not real. Delaware County was a bastion of the GOP.
    ——————————-

    well i hear that these days a lot of people in delaware county are unemployed

  159. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Speaking of San Diego, the response to this city proposal is hilarious:

    “City of San Diego Seeks Local Tech Startups to Solve Civic Challenges
    INNOVATIVE PROGRAM LOOKING FOR BEST AND BRIGHTEST PARTNERS
    SAN DIEGO – Primed for innovation, the City of San Diego is currently accepting applications for the 2019-2020 Startup in Residence (STIR) program, a collaborative process that enables government agencies and emerging tech companies to co-develop and share solutions to the most pressing challenges.

    __________

    Citizen response

    “Ladies and gentlemen,
    I eagerly await the tech-based solution to the trash piles in our alleys, canyons, open spaces, and parks. I eagerly await
    the tech-based solution to adding housing that’s affordable to San Diego’s residents. I eagerly await the tech-based solution to repairing pot holes and damaged streets. I eagerly await the tech-based solution to our intense shortage of code enforcement staff. I eagerly await the tech-based solution to
    getting long-distance commuters out of their motor vehicles and onto bicycles. Or, do I have it all wrong?

    Are the things I eagerly await not among the “most pressing” of our “civic and operating challenges”?

    Your eagerly awaiting constituent,”

  160. Tina says:

    Yeah, so Bevin could lose by double digits, as was projected by one of the polls.

    Bitterlaw says:
    November 5, 2019 at 10:53 pm
    Doesn’t Trump have any advisors who could tell him that Bevin sucks and he should not go to his rally?

  161. lisab says:

    Are the things I eagerly await not among the “most pressing” of our “civic and operating challenges”?
    ———————-

    i think we have more important things to worry about … like the number of genders and sexual preferences

  162. Bitterlaw says:

    I’m glad that what makes me suicidal gives you such joy. It reinforces my believe that you would make a great A-hole.

  163. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    164. “Democrats are about to take over the Delaware County Council (PA) for the first time in history. Tell me again how the Democrats’ rage in the suburbs is not real. Delaware County was a bastion of the GOP.”

    Agree Bitter. If the Democrats had any sense and nominated a moderate candidate, then Trump likely would be a one term president. However, if they nominate a far left socialist, then a lot of use will end up holding our noise and voting for Trump as the lesser of two evils.

    Even many of those who might reluctantly vote for Trump will vote for Democrats in other offices to try and create a check and balance system to try and reign in Trump’s arbitrary impulses.

  164. Bitterlaw says:

    Of course, lisab would have time for the A-hole meetings since she is childless.

  165. BayernFan says:

    all in all not a good night for the GOP.

  166. VictrC says:

    Looks like MS will make it a wash tonight as we will pick up that state. Sorry CG 😉

    Hood is running well behind his numbers in 2015 in most counties, and he doesn’t have close to enough out to win. Right now Reeves is up by 9%, final tally may make it about a 7% win, which is an 18% swing in one election for a sitting Gov. towards the R.

    In VA I’m still wondering where the trouncing is. Yes, the D’s now control both the Senate and House, but realistically its a two seat swing in the Senate and a three to four seat swing in the House. Not exactly overwhelming and in the House the R’s carried three lean D seats and one solid D seat (according to the Wapo “guide”). I know its not great to lose control, but a few votes in a couple of districts could have left them with the razor thin majority they had.

  167. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – Can you take off your Trump goggles for one second? If Trump had stayed away and Bevin lost, the story would be Bevin sucked. Trump going to the rally hands the MSM the story that Bevin’s Loss was a referendum on Trump. You are very intelligent. How can you not see that?

  168. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    173. The Tucson vote may be the most significant election outcome of the night.

  169. lisab says:

    I’m glad that what makes me suicidal gives you such joy.
    —————

    you were suicidal before, so it isn’t like i’m hurting anything

    but you need to tell us when you get a job

    so we can mock you for something else

  170. lisab says:

    Trump going to the rally hands the MSM the story that Bevin’s Loss was a referendum on Trump. You are very intelligent. How can you not see that?
    ————————-

    and romney constantly criticizing trump hands the msm a story …

  171. Bitterlaw says:

    I was not suicidal then. I was indifferent to death. Very different.

  172. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump deserves to be criticized at times. Republicans should never by zombies like Democrats.

  173. Bitterlaw says:

    not be zombies

  174. dblaikie says:

    The race in Mississippi is looking good for the GOP.

  175. NYCmike says:

    Trump does get criticized, plenty.

    BUT then you realize he isn’t perfect, just like Dubya, GHWB, and even Reagan……and also, and more importantly, you realize he isn’t Obama, Bubba, or Hillary……and the ones running for 2020 are worse than them!

  176. NYCmike says:

    For Ca$h Cow – hockey players know how to celebrate victory, glad they are showing the Nationals how it is done!

    https://sports.yahoo.com/best-of-the-washington-nationals-world-series-celebration-at-the-washington-capitals-game-033500702.html

  177. NYCmike says:

    “The race in Mississippi is looking good for the GOP.”

    -That is expected.

  178. NYCmike says:

    It’s ok to be a man.

  179. Bitterlaw says:

    Trump is criticized at HHR? Other than by me, SDC and Jason (Robbie and Corey have their own category), who does that? Certainly not you, NYC.

  180. lisab says:

    romney can pick up the phone and criticize trump privately

    instead of on cnn

  181. lisab says:

    Trump is criticized at HHR? Other than by me, SDC and Jason (Robbie and Corey h
    —————-

    so by most of the regulars then

  182. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here are some good election outcomes mentioned on RRH:

    “Some good news for Republicans: With 47% reporting, Texas’s ban on a state income tax looks well on its way to passage, 77–23%.”

    “Another call – Mike Coffman wins the Aurora mayor’s race. This despite over $100,000 in spending against him from Sierra Club and @ConservationCO and $50,000 from Giffords.”

  183. lisab says:

    you know … there are plenty of stores hiring for christmas

    i myself will be soon working at the french store

    targét for christmas

  184. VictrC says:

    Bitter. I think if you would go back to my posts you can see a lot of criticism of Trump. I think most of us on here would have rather had someone else in 2016, and know he’s a flawed candidate in 2020, but:

    He’s governed better than I expected. He has his faults (tariffs, spending, etc) and his rhetoric over the top at times, he also has a penchant for doing something silly to overshadow when he does good, but on the other hand he does take on tough issues, and gives it right back to the left. That’s why they don’t like him. They can’t stand to be stood up to.

    Anyway, there are others who criticize him on here

  185. lisab says:

    Texas’s ban on a state income tax looks well on its way to passage, 77–23%.”
    ——————————

    i imagine the dems will raise the minimum middle class tax to 50%

    with the ability to deduct state income taxes

    so that there will be no benefit for living in a no income tax state

  186. Bitterlaw says:

    I named 3 critics, lisab. There are more than 3 posters here. Prey and Robbie don’t count.

    Where is the criticism from you, Phil, NYC, Tina, Marv, Walt, Cash Cow, Janz, Big Joe, Hugh, John, and occasional posters?

  187. lisab says:

    Marv, Walt, Cash Cow,big joe, hugh, wes, and john also criticize trump a lot

    not sure about phil though

  188. michael corleone says:

    Bitter talks about the Philly suburbs as if it’s the only part of the state that matters. Bitter, the west and NE parts of PA are reddening as the SE is blueing. Its a tight state.

  189. Phil says:

    I’ve been critical of his tariff policy on multiple occasions and his Syria pullout…..and you’re right, the never Trumper twins don’t count.

  190. Bitterlaw says:

    The sun will rise in the East in the morning. 2+2=4.

    Lisab to refute me in 3…2…1…

  191. lisab says:

    from me?

    ummmmmmmmm … he’s a pig?

    but he is not warren so i don’t care.

    actually, i am very ambivalent about trump as president. he has not started any wars in the middle east, is trying to do something about illegal immigration, cut my taxes a lot, and my family’s income has doubled since he got in … and … as a bonus he makes corie/robbie crazier than usual which is fun …

    however, i REALLY dislike his son if that helps. WAY WAY WAY worse a person than donny

  192. lisab says:

    by which i mean don jr

  193. lisab says:

    ‘We Are Not The Enemy Of The People,’ Say Press Who Intentionally Deceive The People To Protect The Political Elite

    NEW YORK, NY—Various news outlets reminded the American people Tuesday that they are not their enemy, despite intentionally deceiving the people in order to protect the political elite.

    The media who literally allowed the people to be preyed upon by the rich and powerful rather than run information that might harm their elite buddies assured the people they are on our side.

    “We are not the enemy of the people,” said a spokesperson for ABC News, waving his hands in the air as though trying to perform some kind of Jedi mind trick. “Yes, I know it may seem that way when we cover up damaging information to protect the rich and powerful, but trust us when we say we know better than you.”

    “We are your friends,” he added in a hypnotic voice while swinging a stopwatch back and forth. “Say it with me: we are your friends. Yes, yes, gooooood.”

    CNN’s Brian Stelter agreed, saying that though he calls out the president for lying all the time, it’s different when the press does it. “Our lying is democratic lying,” Stelter said. “It’s for your own good.”

    “Also, Epstein definitely killed himself, and we don’t have any other information on that.”

  194. lisab says:

    ABC News Claims Story On Epstein Was Accidentally Thrown Out Then Shredded Into Tiny Pieces And Incinerated

    NEW YORK, NY—An ABC News spokesperson claims the story on Epstein they sat on for three years was accidentally tossed out with some old paperwork, then shredded into tiny pieces, and then finally incinerated into a pile of ash.

    “There was some kind of mix-up with the papers,” said one man standing out by ABC News’s official incinerator. “A janitor must have tossed it out while he was cleaning. Then, I guess it got fed through a paper shredder somehow, fed through a second paper shredder by mistake, and finally incinerated at 4,000 degrees.”

    “These kinds of things just happen sometimes, you know,” he added, shrugging.

    Station representatives also believe the pile of ashes was then pulled out of the trash, stuffed into a briefcase, set inside a block of solid concrete, and dropped off the end of the docks near a seedy warehouse.

    ABC News assured everyone the janitor has been fired, his mop has been confiscated, and he’s been tossed outside like a bag of moldy tangerines.

  195. lisab says:

    Medicare-For-All Worries Seniors Who Want To Keep Medicare’s Quality And Efficiency All To Themselves

    WOODLAWN, MD—According to a recent survey, seniors across the nation are worried that a new “Medicare-For-All” healthcare plan would force them to share the incredible efficiency and top quality medical care they currently enjoy while Medicare is limited to senior citizens only.

    “This Medicare for all business really irks me,” Eleanor Henderson of Hoboken, NJ told sources. “With Medicare, I get high-quality, cost-efficient, problem-free healthcare whenever I want, with no restrictions or rationing at all. Why should I have to share that with some young whippersnappers?”

    “I’m perturbed,” said Charles Montgomery of Boca Raton, FL. “I instantly receive everything I ask for through Medicare, with no reimbursement denials or delays in paperwork. And every physician accepts Medicare because they pay doctors so well. No way I want to share this best-kept secret with the rest of the country.”

    At publishing time, senior citizens were seen mailing strongly worded letters to their congressional representatives, demanding an explanation for why younger citizens might be given access to their highly efficient, perfectly operated Medicare system.

  196. lisab says:

    Millennials Wish There Were Some Historical Examples Of Socialism We Could Study To Have Some Idea How It Might Turn Out

  197. lisab says:

    regarding the “it’s ok to be white” posters

    i just read the

    FBI

    is investigating … ummmmmmmmmmmm … don’t they have more important things to do?

  198. lisab says:

    hillary2020
    @hillaryclinton

    i am saddened to hear about the sudden suicide of amy robach

  199. janz says:

    #188 Bitter, why should I criticize Trump? His mistakes, faux pas, imperfections have been examined, ad nauseam, by several posters here, as well as a multitude of others in the MSM, resist movement, random anti-Trumpers and elite establishment politicians. Also, what I have consistently not liked about Trump – his caustic tweets and alienating remarks — are more back-seat kind of distastes versus the positive additions of various policy decisions, judicial influences, and standing up for the common worker.

    Furthermore, I think Trump has experienced an unfair share of unwarranted investigations and dishonest evaluations of his presidency, that would drive most people up the wall, acting out with defiance rather than dignified restraint. So, I just leave all the hostile venting and abundance of criticism to others.

  200. Tina says:

    The win by Cameron ag is historical for a couple of reasons.

    First time thst seat has gone r in 70 years and first AA.

    He also got 120,000 more votes than Bevin.

  201. Wes says:

    Had Trump not held a rally for Bevin and declared a vote for the Dems was a vote for impeachment then the Dems and MSM wouldn’t have a talking point against him. That Trump did that though only to see Bevin lose is concerning. There were other factors of course, but Trump suffered a clear defeat here.

    Dblaikie will be here soon, I’m sure, to do his Leslie Nielsen impersonation and declare “Nothing to see here!” as explosions take place behind him.

    This isn’t an outright disaster for Trump, but it’s hard to argue it’s not a clear loss with potential implications for next year.

  202. Wes says:

    Fairfax County, VA, now has no Republicans representing it above the county level. That’s only the biggest county in VA. Trump is a lock to carry VA next year though, right, Phoenix and Gameboy?

  203. Wes says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    November 5, 2019 at 11:10 pm
    164. “Democrats are about to take over the Delaware County Council (PA) for the first time in history. Tell me again how the Democrats’ rage in the suburbs is not real. Delaware County was a bastion of the GOP.”

    Agree Bitter. If the Democrats had any sense and nominated a moderate candidate, then Trump likely would be a one term president. However, if they nominate a far left socialist, then a lot of use will end up holding our noise and voting for Trump as the lesser of two evils.

    Even many of those who might reluctantly vote for Trump will vote for Democrats in other offices to try and create a check and balance system to try and reign in Trump’s arbitrary impulses.

    Um, no. People aren’t going to vote for Trump on one hand and Democrats on the other to check him. There’s exactly no evidence of this. They’ll simply vote for or against Trump—most likely against as election results since 2017 have made abundantly clear.

    This Rube-Goldberg analysis of how Trump is going to win simply has no basis in any results we’ve seen since 2017.

  204. Wes says:

    Dems landed haymakers on the GOP in SEPA. PA was noteworthy for flipping to Trump in 2016. It’s gone pretty much 99% the opposite way since. Trump’s still a lock to carry the Commonwealth though.

    I want to emphasize KY-Gov is a bigger loss for the GOP than the slender margin suggests for two reasons:

    1) Trump linked a vote for Beshear to a vote for impeachment, yet Bevin still lost. In one of his friendliest states, Trump couldn’t rally the troops for a symbolic victory over an unashamedly liberal Dem with a rallying cry against impeachment. That’s an unequivocal loss for Trump.

    2) Since 1991, KY-Gov has been the bellwether for the following year’s presidential election except in 1999 when Republicans didn’t seriously contest the office. That’s another bad sign for Trump based on historical data.

    Basically I can’t spin this as good for Trump even though Bevin ultimately was the primary factor in his own defeat.

  205. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – It is a complete disaster here in PA. Delaware, Chester and Bucks County are now blue. I have lived in Philadelphia or Delaware County since law school in 1990. Even during the Clinton and Obama terms, these counties were red at the local level.There are many factors but Trump is the main cause. People I have known for decades as solid GOP voters are voting for Dems now as the only way to protest Trump. They tell me it is against their financial interest but they will pay it to be rid of him.

    Jason’s 217 family members in York County are not going to offset this. Things can change but I think Trump is going to lose PA.

  206. Tina says:

    Daniel Cameron seems like a new rising star.

    Will combat opioid and illegal immigration.

    Very historical win.

  207. Tina says:

    Is romney related to Pierre Detestable?

    Q: “Who is your favorite Democrat??” @DonaldJTrumpJr: *laughs* … @MittRomney is my favorite Democrat, how about that?”

  208. Tina says:

    Desantis more popular with Hispanics than whites. He outlawed sanctuary cities and is for e verify. Very conservative on illegal immigration as opposed to the bush Bama Republicans

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/04/florida-huge-majority-of-hispanics-support-desantis-mandatory-e-verify/

  209. jason says:

    Looks like Bevin is 5k votes short out of 1.4 million votes cast.

    Blaming Trump is stupid. Bevin is a horrible candidate. If not for Trump, he would have lost by a wider margin. Trump almost dragged him across the finish line.

    Also stupid is Amoral Scumbag’s contention that “normal Rs” won all the other state races.

    Zzzzzz……

  210. jason says:

    Desantis more popular with Hispanics than whites”

    Ah yes, Desantis. Isn’t this the guy Amoral Scumbag predicted would lose big because he was a “Trump clone”?

  211. Tina says:

    Yes, the jebots wanted desantis to loss.

    Much like they wanted the obumbler to win over Pierre

  212. Tina says:

    Bevin was a horrible candidate.

    32 percent approval rate?

    Was down 19 in one poll and tied in mason dixon.

    Compared to the black Ag candidate, he lost about 120000 votes.

    But let’s blame trump.

  213. jason says:

    Delaware county has been trending blue for a long time now, and Bitter’s 217 friends that “vote against their interests” hardly represent the entire state.

    Let’s see if Bitter’s “solid GOP friends” are going to vote for Elizabeth Warren.

    Here in “normal PA”, Republicans won everything as usual by big margins.

  214. Bitterlaw says:

    Delaware County was owned by the GOP for almost a century longer than the Democrats have owned Philadelphia. Now I get a DA who was funded by Soros. The

  215. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Many of those friend will either not vote President or will vote for the Dem and mostly Rs down ballot. They want Trump gone and losing money to do it does not matter to them.

  216. Tina says:

    I want trump,gone too.

    -jebot

  217. Wes says:

    I don’t know if anyone has blamed Trump for Bevin’s loss, Tina and Jason, but Trump interjected himself into the race and outright claimed a vote for Beshear was a vote for impeachment. Bevin Lost. That’s in no way a good sign for Trump.

    Sorry for acknowledging reality.

  218. Tina says:

    Yes, Bevin lost, but all other r candidates won, including the first African American for ag, a position not held by a r in 70 years.

  219. jason says:

    The point I made, wes, is that I think Trump helped Bevin. He was down significantly, had horrible approval rating, was a horrible candidate, and yet it seems the big rally with Trump almost pulled him through.

  220. jason says:

    hey want Trump gone and losing money to do it does not matter to them.”

    That is nice, when you can afford it.

    Here in my area, working class people will vote for Trump to keep more of their money.

  221. jason says:

    On Drudge, two headlines that should worry Trump more than Bevin or Delaware Co.

    1) US trade deficit widening despite Trump’s trade wars

    2) Manufacturers in the Rust Belt struggling.

  222. Wes says:

    On the Apprentice, regardless of the closeness of a loss, Trump was unforgiving of the team captain and fired mercilessly any member he felt owned most responsibility for the failure.

    Applying Trump’s own logic to KY-Gov, the President doesn’t deserve the sugarcoating you’re trying to give Bevin’s loss, Jason.

  223. jason says:

    York County Treasurer Results

    Ryan SUPLER
    DEM
    18,008
    Barbara BAIR
    REP
    44,158

    Republican for Register of Wills won big too.

  224. jason says:

    Sorry, wes, blaming Trump for Bevin’s loss is asinine.

    And the Apprentice was basically a game show, so trying to extrapolate it to the KY race is asinine too.

    Bevin lost because he was a weak candidate with low approval ratings. Trump tried to help him, almost succeeded.

    That is not sugarcoating, those are the facts.

    Had Bevin been a better candidate and lost, yeah, Trump could have been a factor. If all the other statewide R candidates had lost, yeah, Trump could have been a factor.

    Bevin lost because of Bevin. Period.

  225. jason says:

    Bevin almost succeeded in doing what I wanted him to do. Win by one vote.

    He gave it the college try.

  226. jason says:

    I saw this Inquirer headline but can’t read it because I don’t have a subscription. Bitter, did the Rs pick up seats in NJ?

    “Democrats suffer a setback in New Jersey as Republicans win battleground legislative districts”

  227. Wes says:

    Ah, yes. Here we go. You can’t actually refute what I said, so you have to lie about it to make a point.

    I thought only the media engaged in yellow journalism. Clearly the more rabid Trumpkins do as well.

  228. jason says:

    So wes, is Trump to blame for Bevin’s loss.

    Yes or No?

    We will make it simple.

  229. jason says:

    , so you have to lie about it to make a point.”

    Where is the lie exactly?

  230. jason says:

    Did wes just call me a rabid Trumpkin?

    Thanks for the points.

    Don’t tell anybody about my post above

    “On Drudge, two headlines that should worry Trump more than Bevin or Delaware Co.

    1) US trade deficit widening despite Trump’s trade wars

    2) Manufacturers in the Rust Belt struggling.”

  231. Bitterlaw says:

    https://election.co.delaware.pa.us/eb/November_2019/36S.html

    Delaware County Republicans had owned this County since Grant was President.

    One of my wife’s friends from college was elected as a Judge in Montgomery County. 10 year term at $183k per year for a flaming liberal. My wife is happy for friend and also suggested that I send a resume to her firm since she now has to quit.

  232. jason says:

    See, there is a silver lining.

  233. Bitterlaw says:

    https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/new-jersey-election-results-legislative-democrats-20191106.html

    The Inquirer gives you 10 free views a month so most here should be able to read it. The GOP did pick up some legislative seats in South Jersey – more rural than the rest of the state.

  234. Bitterlaw says:

    I have friends who won as Democrats. I did not vote for them. I told my wife that if she ever ran for office as a Democrat, I would not vote for opponent but I could not vote for her, either.

  235. Hugh says:

    Jason. Why suffer the aggravation of looking at the Drudge Report

  236. Tina says:

    Bevin can still claim he won since Stacey Abrams still claims she won.

  237. Wes says:

    Here are my exact words on the issue, Jason. I’m not sure you will be able to understand what I said, but I clearly never said Trump caused Bevin to lose:

    1) Trump linked a vote for Beshear to a vote for impeachment, yet Bevin still lost. In one of his friendliest states, Trump couldn’t rally the troops for a symbolic victory over an unashamedly liberal Dem with a rallying cry against impeachment. That’s an unequivocal loss for Trump.

  238. Bitterlaw says:

    Not everybody hides from bad news, Hugh. Are the stories that Jason referenced untrue?

  239. Paul says:

    With the possibility of PA and MI leaning blue, particularly if Biden heads the ticket, you end up with the very real possibility of a 269/269 result. That would be really fun!

  240. Wes says:

    Here is the further statement I made on the issue:

    Basically I can’t spin this as good for Trump even though Bevin ultimately was the primary factor in his own defeat.

    Now tell me where I said Trump was responsible for Bevin’s loss.

  241. Wes says:

    Oh, and I can use The Apprentice as a benchmark for Trump since wins and losses with no in between were his personal standard. Since he applied the same standard to the losing GOP Congressmen last year there’s nothing asinine about citing his own standards regarding wins and losses.

  242. michael corleone says:

    Bitter please stop – the sky isn’t falling. Delaware and Chester are big liberal counties and have been for some time. They were in 2016. Bucks not as liberal because bigger white working class population but Trump lost it narrowly too. Rest of PA is rocketing to the right.

  243. Tina says:

    L c Kruschev laughed at rednecks and spoke highly of the obumbler.

    Gee, maybe we can have Pete the Cheat and Vindman meet. They seem to hate rednecks and Walmart shoppers.

  244. Bitterlaw says:

    MC – You are a moron. Delaware and Chester counties were not big liberal counties. They were owned by the GOP for more than a century. Where do you live? I live here and Trump is toxic.

  245. Paul says:

    Tina: Everyone hates rednecks and Walmart shoppers. That is totally meaningless.

  246. Wes says:

    So, MC, have gay marriage and Latinos destroyed western civilization yet?

  247. Tina says:

    When will the pot smiler join the skateboarder?

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    The shift intends to fix the misalignment of the traditional school day and work day, a gap experts say contributes to $55 billion in productivity losses each year.

  248. jason says:

    Now tell me where I said Trump was responsible for Bevin’s loss.”

    Ok, so we agree Trump did not cause Bevin’s loss.

    The rest is fluff.

    I am glad it’s settled and we agree.

  249. jason says:

    The VA results are a disaster, before wes says I am ‘sugarcoating” them. And they are a disaster because Dems now control both houses and the Governorship.

    But it wasn’t exactly a wipe out either. It is still very much divided at 21-19 in the Senate and 54-46 in the House. A lot of the races were close enough that some of the Dems might not want to go too crazy and overreach.

    Or maybe we should hope they do.

  250. jason says:

    KamalaHarris has a new a bill to stretch the school day from 8 am to 6 pm.”

    That is so they can have a 3 hour brainwashing session each day.

  251. jason says:

    Rest of PA is rocketing to the right.”

    I am looking at some of the county results.

    The good news is that Rs actually increased margins in many counties so the point that parts of PA are getting redder is true.

    The bad news is they are small in population compared to Monto, Delco, Bucks and Chester.

    I will have to agree with Bitter its probably not a good trade.

  252. Paul says:

    School hours should always be micromanaged at the national level.

    Big Sister Kamala always knows best.

  253. Paul says:

    I’m looking forward to the 269/269 tie that happens when Buttigieg wins PA and MI but loses WI.

    Buttigieg (chosen by House) and Pence (chosen by Senate) will make a nice pair.

  254. Big Joe says:

    Well for most people, election night is exciting. For us junkies, the day after is more exciting because we get to dissect the numbers to glean insights.

    At first glance, it looks like enthusiasm is up for both Dems and GOP and the suburbs continue to move towards the Democrats. More later.

    Big Joe

  255. Big Joe says:

    #265 Paul-

    The House will not choose Mayor Pete. Each state delegation gets one vote, so CA and WY get one vote each.

    The Republicans control more state delegations. A tie means President Trump will be re-elected. Dems need 270, GOP just needs 269. Call it home field advantage.

    Big Joe

  256. jason says:

    Big Joe is a lot smarter than your average Democrat.

  257. Paul says:

    Big Joe,
    Thank you! I had forgotten that very important part. Oh well.

  258. Wes says:

    Joe assumes Republicans wouldn’t factor in the 2026 midterm when making their presidential vote. If the presidency came to a House vote I’m not sure Republicans wouldn’t remember 2018 and vote for the Dem to be President so as to set themselves up for 2022.

  259. Robbie says:

    We don’t need no stinking suburbs. We have the common folk on our side.

    Last year, super Trumper mnw said Republicans lost all across the country because they didn’t act enough like dear leader Trump.

    This year, Mat Bevin mimicked Trump in every way and he still lost.

  260. janz says:

    It’s hard to spin Bevin’s defeat as nothing but a loss. Being “close,” within the margin of error, is nothing more than a variable of size. However, the results remain the same —-> the republican candidate did not win. What is to be gleaned from the Kentucky election, though, is that healthcare remains a top issue. And, feuding with a teacher’s union is risky.

    I also believe that how much Bevin’s defeat will reflect on Trump depends on the outcome of Louisiana’s governor race. If the R wins, it will buffer what happened in Kentucky. However, if the incumbent dem pulls it out these losses will be viewed more as a negative pattern trending against the Rs.

  261. Tina says:

    Looks like her Thighness is thinking about running.

    Bnl news

  262. Wes says:

    Bevin’s loss tarnishes Trump regardless of LA because Trump heavily interjected himself into the race and made it a referendum on impeachment. Once Trump did that and Bevin Lost, the Dems had their talking point. Had Trump not been heavily invested in the race at the end Dems couldn’t claim the results as a rebuke of Trump.

  263. Robbie says:

    I have two thoughts about Bevin’s loss. First, Bevin was a uniquely unpopular person in Kentucky. He spent the last four years being a jerk and picking senseless fights (that’s why he was a hero to so many Trumpers). Even Republican members of the state house hated him and I suspect McConnell was glad to see him go. If politics is about addition, Bevin spent four years making it about subtraction. Every other Republican but one won by 10 or more points.

    Second, Trump’s in no danger of losing KY, but Bevin embraced Trump in every way possible in this campaign. I saw it first hand. His messaging was straight out of a Trump rally. He claimed Democrats were socialists, he featured AOC in his ads, and he said Democrats would take away guns and legalize abortion if they won. On top of that, he mimicked Trump’s combative and fact free style on the campaign trail and featured Trump in many of his ads.

    Bevin made himself a stand-in for Trump and Trumpism. He tied himself to Trump in every way. And in the areas where the 2020 campaign will be fought and won, the suburbs, Bevin was crushed. Suburban Louisville, Lexington, and Bowling Green were disasters for Bevin. That should scare the crap out Trump because he’ll need the suburbs in PA, MI, OH, WI, NC, FL, and AZ if he wants to win.

  264. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    November 6, 2019 at 10:29 am
    Bevin’s loss tarnishes Trump regardless of LA because Trump heavily interjected himself into the race and made it a referendum on impeachment. Once Trump did that and Bevin Lost, the Dems had their talking point. Had Trump not been heavily invested in the race at the end Dems couldn’t claim the results as a rebuke of Trump.

    – I watched the race up close and personal since I live in KY. It’s hard to over emphasize how big of a role Bevin chose to make Trump, especially in the last three weeks. As I wrote in post 276, Bevin made himself a stand-in for Trump and Trumpism. And in the areas where 2020 will be fought, the suburbs, Bevin got crushed. Regardless of Democrat talking points, that’s the big takeaway.

  265. Wes says:

    Robbie, Bevin lost by running behind his 2015 margins in the rurals. The suburbs didn’t help, but Bevin would have won had he held his previous margins in the exurbs and rurals.

  266. janz says:

    Wes, the Dems always manage talking points from any win. And, when they lose, Dems simply don’t talk about it, and move on.

    Regarding VIrginia flipping over to the Dems, the 2 reasons given for this change of political fortunes is gerrymandering favoring the Dems, and the disparity of R & D monies funneled into the races. Money poured into dem candidates coffers, with Soros heavily contributing to people reflecting his own far left mindset.

  267. Tina says:

    In va, they are reporting that 25 percent of the races were not even contested by an R.

  268. Tina says:

    JohnWickofPolitics
    @Gingrich_of_PA
    Southeast Pennsylvania is sinking into a Philly abyss. Our strongholds are gone. Delaware, Chester, Montgomery counties are history. Bucks is hanging by a thread. Eye-opening results. No State is changing century old demos quicker than PA. We’re adding NE & SW, losing all of SE.

  269. Wes says:

    That’s any political party, Jane. My point is that Trump made this a referendum on impeachment and saw Bevin lose. He gave them a talking point and a victory against him by doing that.

  270. Phil says:

    Virginia and Colorado have been gone since 2008 which predates Trump. The suburbs of Denver and Washington DC voted overwhelmingly against McCain and Romney. That’s just a fact. Same with the Philly suburbs.

    Trump is weak in the suburbs. That is an absolute fact. It’s also true that the suburban flip flop started well before Trump.

  271. John says:

    Trump is off for another rally tonight in Monroe, LA at the Monroe Civic Center to gin up support for Rispone in the Louisiana gubernatorial general election on Nov. 16.

  272. michael corleone says:

    Bitter,

    I live in CA but am from NJ and follow politics closely. First, as for NJ, the GOP held up well there gaining some seats. I would note that the entirety of NJ is a suburb and the Southern portion of the state is reddening. Morris County looked pretty red last night too.

    As for Delaware county, the GOP hasn’t carried it at the Presidential level since 1988. That hardly qualifies as GOP stronghold. Kerry and Gore had pretty good margins there, so that’s not GOP leaning. I will partially cede your point on Chester County, given than Romney carried it (but not McCain), but it still had been trending D for before Trump. Obama carried it by 10 points in 2008, so it certainly is no “conservative” bastion.

    As for the local results, what was the spending differential? And why is South Jersey moving more R if Trump is so toxic?

    Finally, I will leave you with this – it clearly shows that the state is moving to the right, but there is no comfort to be taken here I admit.

    https://www.phillytrib.com/news/state_and_region/how-the-pa-electorate-has-changed-since-and-what-that/article_5fb115b5-b881-5c6f-95a4-63eff4b4dc4c.html

  273. janz says:

    FWIW: the latest poll has Edwards leading Rispone 48/46 in the upcoming election for gov in LA.

  274. Robbie says:

    Jim Geraghty
    @jimgeraghty

    No, it’s not all Trump’s fault, but he’s far from blameless, too. He helps shape the national political environment, and right now he’s just nuking the GOP in the suburbs.

  275. Phil says:

    I continue to think the most fascinating and salient question revolves around who the Democrats nominate, Nominate a radical like Warren and they open the door for Trump’s re-election. Nominate someone perceived as somewhat of a centrist and they win. Here lies the rub. Who? The only one who remotely has that perception is Biden. Biden is a crap shoot given his age and senility. Anyone think he’s going to get anything but older and more out of it over the next twelve months? The guy is a rolling disaster on the stump.

    Where is their centrist savior? Certainly not among their current leaders. It’s a problem.

  276. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 6, 2019 at 10:46 am
    Virginia and Colorado have been gone since 2008 which predates Trump. The suburbs of Denver and Washington DC voted overwhelmingly against McCain and Romney. That’s just a fact. Same with the Philly suburbs.

    – I disagree. If those states had been gone since 2008, then why did R’s do so well in VA in 2009? Why did Gillispie nearly win in 2014 with an underfunded campaign? In CO, had R’s nominated anyone other than Ken dumbBuck in 2010, they’d have won the Senate race.

    Obviously, those states are gone now, but I think the trend was energized by Trump’s brand of politics that caused moderate Republicans to become former Republicans. The difference from 2014 to today in the suburbs is striking and sad.

    The suburbs were the home of the Republican party since the 1970’s. Now, there a killing field.

  277. John says:

    Economy news just released (October)…

    The Institute for Supply Management Non-Manufacturing Index came in at a higher than expected 54.7% for October

    The Business Activity Index rose 1.8% to 57% indicating growth for the 123rd straight month

    New Orders Index came in 1.9% higher at 55.6%

    Employment Index rose 3.3% to 53.7%

  278. Phil says:

    I was a strong supporter of Rubio. I firmly believed he was the Republicans best hope in 2016. I believed Trump would be a disaster. I was wrong. Rubio would have not have carried the rust belt.

  279. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 6, 2019 at 10:59 am
    I continue to think the most fascinating and salient question revolves around who the Democrats nominate, Nominate a radical like Warren and they open the door for Trump’s re-election. Nominate someone perceived as somewhat of a centrist and they win.

    – I don’t disagree with this view, but a president with a 41% approval rating is in a position to lose to just about anyone the Democrats nominate. If Trump was more consistently around 45% or 46%, I think the opponent would matter a lot more.

    If the voters decide they’ve had enough, and Trump’s approval rating suggests that might be the case, the other side can almost win by default. That’s what happened with GHWB in 1992. After 12 years, R’s had just run out of steam and the public was ready for a change.

  280. Phil says:

    Hey, you get no argument from me about Ken Buck. Jane Norton would have won that senate seat by a solid margin….but the suburbs have been trending away from Republicans. Trump accelerated the trend but it was still the trend predating Trump.

  281. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 6, 2019 at 11:05 am
    I was a strong supporter of Rubio. I firmly believed he was the Republicans best hope in 2016. I believed Trump would be a disaster. I was wrong. Rubio would have not have carried the rust belt.

    – Few disliked Rubio more than I did, but he absolutely would have performed better than Trump in 2016. If you suggest otherwise, then you’re saying no Republican could’ve gotten more than 46% of the national vote. I completely disagree with that.

    Romney got 47% of the vote in 2012 in a year that was far more favorable to Democrats than 2016 was. Rubio, before he dropped out of the race, was consistently polling head of Clinton when Trump never was. Right there, the difference between the two in polling, shows the margin of those willing to vote for a Republican who ultimately didn’t. It was about 5%-6%. Maybe even higher.

    And let’s not forget, Clinton was the most unpopular politician of the last 30 years in this country. She carried with her baggage that no national candidate had in decades. It’s why she nearly lost to Bernie in the primary and that’s why Trump ultimately squeaked out a win. The country decided it just didn’t want Hillary as president.

    Rubio absolutely would have performed just fine in the Rust Belt and he would have performed far better than Trump in places like the southwest. On top of that, Rubio would have done very well in the suburbs, a place where Trump showed weakness due to his myriad of scandals. The Access Hollywood tape turned off women in the suburbs. Rubio wouldn’t have carried that burden with him as he has been scandal free.

  282. BayernFan says:

    Hillary would have destroyed Rubio. No candidate other than Trump could have beaten her.

  283. Phil says:

    I believed that at one time. However, on election night I saw how Trump performed in Places like Scranton and Erie County. Did it surprise me? Absolutely. But it was quite a contrast to the way Romney performed in white working class areas. It’s what carried Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pa. Rubio would have come up short in those states. The Romney experience in those places tells me so.

  284. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 6, 2019 at 11:13 am
    Hey, you get no argument from me about Ken Buck. Jane Norton would have won that senate seat by a solid margin….but the suburbs have been trending away from Republicans. Trump accelerated the trend but it was still the trend predating Trump.

    – I’ve looked at the exit polls going back twenty years and there was really no sign of weakening for Republicans through 2014. Bush crushed Kerry in the suburbs in 2004. In 2006, the suburbs were a bastion of strength for Republicans in an otherwise dismal year. There was certainly a blip in 2008, but that was hope and change. Romney performed quite well in 2012 in the suburbs and Republicans crushed it everywhere in 2014.

    The sharp decline in the suburbs started in 2016 and accelerated in 2018. My hope is it’s just a backlash against Trump that will revert to normal once he’s gone. If he happens to win in 2020 though, they’re gone for a generation or more.

  285. Robbie says:

    BayernFan says:
    November 6, 2019 at 11:26 am
    Hillary would have destroyed Rubio. No candidate other than Trump could have beaten her.

    – This is wrong. End of story.

  286. jason says:

    Hillary would have destroyed Rubio. No candidate other than Trump could have beaten her.”

    Rubio would have come the closest, IMO, but still would have lost.

    Only Trump would have won PA, WI, MI.

    Anyone who thinks any other R would have broken this firewall is delusional.

  287. John says:

    Trump rally tonight in Louisiana.
    Trump to be at the big LSU-Alabama game on Saturday.
    Trump to speak at the Veterans’ Parade in NYC on Monday.
    Meanwhile, Joe Biden is in Iowa but tells people he’s in Ohio.

  288. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    November 6, 2019 at 11:26 am
    I believed that at one time. However, on election night I saw how Trump performed in Places like Scranton and Erie County. Did it surprise me? Absolutely. But it was quite a contrast to the way Romney performed in white working class areas. It’s what carried Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pa. Rubio would have come up short in those states. The Romney experience in those places tells me so.

    – You’re assuming that it could only happen with Trump because it did happen with Trump. Don’t forget, the country was ready to change the party in power because the Obama presidency had been an unpopular one. It had been eight years of middling economic growth and Obama, right until the end, consistently polled below 45%. The party out of power is almost always the strong favorite to win after an eight year presidency.

    Do you really think a Rubio/Haley ticket, with no scandal attached to it, would have only gotten 46% of the national vote against the most unpopular national candidate of the last generation? Do you really think Rubio/Haley would have underperformed in the suburbs? Do you really think a youthful ticket like Rubio/Haley would have underperformed against an older politician whose claim to fame was she married a president?

    I get it. Trump won when he wasn’t supposed to win so many think he has some mystical power, but he doesn’t.

  289. Wes says:

    You keep ducking me on my offer of a charity bet about Trump’s getting 20% of the black vote, Bay.

    Why is that?

  290. jason says:

    Rubio would have a a chance of winning NV and even CO.

    He would have done better than Trump in the south, in Florida, and in the southwest. He would have lost by smaller margins in CA and IL. But none of these differences would have resulted in beating Hillary.

    He would not have done as well as Trump in OH, WI, MN, PA, or even IA.

  291. jason says:

    He is waiting for better odds, wes.

    I am giving him 3-1, you are only offering 2-1.

  292. Phil says:

    As I’ve said many times it doesn’t really matter in the long run. The Republican Party is doomed anyway due to demographics. Trump or no Trump it’s simple math. In twenty years it won’t matter if Republicans are stronger in the suburbs or not. It’s math and the white demographic that makes up the bulk of Republican strength will simply be outvoted. It happened in California and it will happen nationally. Simple math. Add to that leftist control of the MSM and the education system and the deck is stacked. The trend will only accelerate. See polls of young adults and their love of socialism. Trump will be gone in a year or five years. Demographic trends will continue unabated.

  293. jason says:

    Do you really think a Rubio/Haley ticket, with no scandal attached to it, would have only gotten 46% of the national vote against the most unpopular national candidate of the last generation? Do you really think Rubio/Haley would have underperformed in the suburbs? Do you really think a youthful ticket like Rubio/Haley would have underperformed against an older politician whose claim to fame was she married a president?”

    Yes, yes and yes.

    That ticket would not have breached the firewall.

    And of course, Amoral Scumbag would not have supported that ticket anyway.

  294. Phil says:

    As far as odds I will continue the bidding at 10-1.

  295. jason says:

    Rubio would not have won Erie, PA in a million years.

    And winning in places like Erie is what gave Trump PA.

    Rubio would have lost PA by 300k votes just like Romney did.

  296. Hugh says:

    291. More bad news for all the Trump hating economists which is about all of them. Economists are worse than weatherman and even more on accountable.

  297. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    November 6, 2019 at 11:41 am
    Do you really think a Rubio/Haley ticket, with no scandal attached to it, would have only gotten 46% of the national vote against the most unpopular national candidate of the last generation? Do you really think Rubio/Haley would have underperformed in the suburbs? Do you really think a youthful ticket like Rubio/Haley would have underperformed against an older politician whose claim to fame was she married a president?”
    Yes, yes and yes.
    That ticket would not have breached the firewall.
    And of course, Amoral Scumbag would not have supported that ticket anyway.

    – Jason fraud challenging NYCmoron for the stupidest poster at HHR.

  298. Wes says:

    Jason ignores the fact that Trump or no Trump, Hillary would still have been Hillary—an entitled, out of touch, elitist bitch with a poor campaign work ethic who would still have been under FBI investigation a week before the election while denigrating people who voted for her opponent. I like the GOP odds for any non-JEB! candidate in that situation.

  299. Phil says:

    309

    Yep.

    Trump pushed Democratic control of the WH back four years…but he only pushed it back a bit.

    How’s that song go? Oh yeah, California here we come….

  300. BayernFan says:

    Idk if he will get 20%. He might. I’m not gonna bet on it. Like I didn’t bet on trump winning. The satisfaction of being right (and you wrong) was then, and would be next year, reward enough.

  301. jason says:

    I was a strong supporter of Rubio. I firmly believed he was the Republicans best hope in 2016. I believed Trump would be a disaster. I was wrong. Rubio would have not have carried the rust belt.”

    Exactly.

    And of course Amoral Scumbag, a lying POS, is now pretending he liked Rubio, when in fact he trashed him for the whole campaign and regurgitated every talking point against him here for months.

    Amoral Scumbag would never have voted for Rubio. Not after Rubio beat Jeb in 9 debates in a row and got the most epic takedown of the season when Jeb tried a sophomoric attack on Senate attendance.

  302. Robbie says:

    It shows how fall down the Trump hole Jason fraud has fallen that he thinks a Rubio/Haley ticket would have gotten fewer votes than the scandal plagued Trump ticket got in 2016. Trumpism is a cult and Jason fraud is gulping down the Kool aid.

  303. jason says:

    I think Trump might well do better with blacks and Hispanics than he did in 2016.

    But 20% of the black vote? No.

  304. Wes says:

    In other words, you’re too much of a pussy to commit to your own prediction, Bay. Good to know.

    Of course you lost our one bet decisively, so I’m sure that has nothing to do with your refusal to bet now.

  305. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    November 6, 2019 at 11:47 am
    And of course Amoral Scumbag, a lying POS, is now pretending he liked Rubio, when in fact he trashed him for the whole campaign and regurgitated every talking point against him here for months.

    – Are you stupid or just unable to comprehend what you read?

    In 295, I wrote, “Few disliked Rubio more than I did”.

    How does that imply I liked Rubio, you stupid idiot? I think he is one of the worst Republicans in the Senate. I wish he’d resign and go sell reverse mortgages.

  306. Phil says:

    They would have gotten more votes? Perhaps. Rubio would have carried Texas by twelve instead of nine. So what? Romney carried Texas by 15. He lost the electoral college because he got killed in the rust belt. Rubio would not have been any different.

  307. jason says:

    t shows how fall down the Trump hole Jason fraud has fallen that he thinks a Rubio/Haley ticket would have gotten fewer votes”

    I didn’t even say fewer votes. I said Rubio would have done better than Trump in Texas, Florida, and any other states. But he certainly wouldn’t have won Ohio by half a million votes like Trump did.

    The distribution of those votes matter. What good would it be for Rubio to lose CA by 3 million instead of 4 million, if he still was not going to win the EC?

    Rubio would not have won PA, WI, or MI. Not even close. The math to winning without at least one of these states is daunting. Maybe NH,, VA, NM and NV and all the other states Trump won.

  308. Phil says:

    Trump was stronger in the rust belt. No Republican has carried those states since the 1980s including Bush in 1984. That’s just a fact. Looking at those numbers and concluding that Trump was unique in that he switched working class rust belt voters enough to flip those states doesn’t make you a “Trump cultist”

  309. Phil says:

    Yep, it was the distribution of the electoral votes that enabled Trump to win and it’s that distribution that would have done Rubio in.

  310. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag would have been here touting Hillary against Rubio/Haley the same way he shilled for her against Trump (and for Obama against Romney).

    A leopard never changes his spots, certainly not a scumbag leopard.

  311. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag would sell his sister and mother to ISIS in a heartbeat if he thought it was bad for Trump.

    Everything he says here is a lie. It’s been lie after lie after lie for over a decade.

  312. jason says:

    Congrats Phil.

    “According to KSAT-TV, Texans were overwhelmingly in agreement and Prop 4 passed with 75 percent of Texans in favor and a ban on state income tax is now part of the state’s highest legal document.”

  313. jason says:

    Hey Bitter, looks like the Dem is ahead in the Superior Court race by 6k votes out of 2.5 million cast?

    Still 1.5% to be counted but that is mostly Philly Co. so not optimistic.

    Too bad.

  314. jason says:

    Ok there are two seats.

    So the GOP might win one, but it will be close

    Daniel Mccaffery D 1,238,499
    Megan King R 1,232,073
    Amanda Green-Hawkins D 1,200,943
    Christylee Peck R 1,147,843

    I voted for Peck, sorry she won’t make it.

  315. Phil says:

    Yep. No income tax is now codified in the State constitution. It means no matter how many Californias move to Austin the state is guaranteed to be income tax free.

  316. Tina says:

    Yes, public impeachment hearings begin next week.

    I am sure the ratings will be through the roof.

    Taylor is the first witness for the Soviets.

    Happy hunting grounds Republicans.

  317. Robbie says:

    Never forget that Jason fraud hated Trump every day of the campaign, refused to vote for Trump, and left the party over Trump. On top of that, he loved him some Rubio. Now because Trump accidentally won, he loves him some Trump and doubts Rubio could have won. That’s what a cult does to a person.

  318. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    November 6, 2019 at 12:30 pm
    Yes, public impeachment hearings begin next week.
    I am sure the ratings will be through the roof.
    Taylor is the first witness for the Soviets.
    Happy hunting grounds Republicans.

    – What happened to that Andy McCabe indictment you and Jim Hoft were promising a couple of months ago?

  319. dblaikie says:

    The reason why Bevin lost is because he was the lowest rated Governor in the country. If Trump pays a price for a little while so what. The race was close, in the end Bevin lost by a less than a point. There was nothing wrong in trying to get him over the top. Trump simply couldn’t over come that unpopularity.

    No one seems to want to talk about Mississippi where the GOP did better than expected. Trump rally worked there.

    Virginia has made its transition to blue state America. That is sad but we knew it was coming.

  320. Tina says:

    When will little Erica come?

    The Reckoning ? Retweeted

    Carter Page, Ph.D.
    ?

    @carterwpage
    47m47 minutes ago
    More
    Carter Page, Ph.D. Retweeted Adam Schiff
    More to come?
    Open?

    When will Eric Ciaramella be openly coming, @RepAdamSchiff?

  321. jason says:

    and left the party over Trump”

    Nice Goebbels impersonation.

    Amoral Scumbag has probably repeated this lie 1000 times now, but guess what, still a lie.

    90% of Rs approve of Trump. Trump is a symptom of today’s R party, not the cause.

  322. jason says:

    hat happened to that Andy McCabe indictment you and Jim Hoft were promising a couple of months ago?”

    Amoral Scumbag shilling for Andrew McCabe?

    Now THAT is TDS for you.

  323. jason says:

    Now because Trump accidentally won, he loves him some Trump and doubts Rubio could have won.”

    Zzzzzz….

    I would take Rubio for President over Trump any day of the week.

    But would he have beaten Hillary? No.

    Both can be true.

    Accidentally won? LOL

  324. BayernFan says:

    Well Wes I never “predicted” trump will get 20%. He might. I don’t think I predicted Trump would win in 2016. I said he might. You were convinced he would lose. As for 2010… you relive that past glory. St. Judes thanked ME, not YOU.

    I don’t think you have $2000 to your name anyway.

    You still working at Chili’s?

  325. jason says:

    The KY results compared to 2015.

    Governor: R+9 -> D+1
    Sec. of State: D+2 -> R+4
    Attorney General: D+0 -> R+15
    Auditor: R+4 -> R+14
    Treasurer: R+21 -> R+21
    Comm. of Ag: R+20 -> R+19

  326. Tina says:

    The ky libertarian party is happy with Bevin losing. I did not realize that Bevin raised sales taxes (if their statement is true). If true, sounds like Bevin governed more like a Bushie or the Schwarznkennedy wing.

    https://twitter.com/AdrianNormanDC/status/1192102901222539264/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1192102901222539264&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com%2F2019%2F11%2F06%2Fnovember-6th-2019-presidential-politics-trump-administration-day-1021%2F

  327. Tina says:

    More
    Last night for @GOP

    ?First African-American elected statewide in KY
    ?First woman elected AG in MS
    ?GOP WIN in NH district that went 62-30 for Hillary
    ?Largest GOP pickup in NJ since 1991

    ?Voters rejected tax hikes, sanctuary city ballot initiatives

  328. NYCmike says:

    Wes never mentioned a Libertarian angle for KY………odd……..

    Bevin down by 5100 votes.
    Libertarian candidate garnered over 28K votes.

    Wes silent……priceless.

  329. NYCmike says:

    Very odd that Robbie or “CG” didn’t find that statement from the Libertarian Party either…….they just blamed Trump.

    Looks like Bevin should have done more outreach.

    Oddly enough, if the Libertarians put such emphasis on the issues they listed, Trump will get their support on many of them.

    Not sure if I agree with it all, but next year will be interesting in places like NH, NV, NM…….

  330. Wes says:

    I have plenty more than $2000, Bay. I never worked at Chili’s. I have no idea where you got that, but, hey, you’re still a pussy who won’t commit to his own statements.

  331. Wes says:

    All right, Mikey, so Trump couldn’t help Bevin overcome Beshear despite framing a vote for Beshear as a vote for impeachment in a state Trump carried by double digits. It was the Libertarian’s fault Bevin lost though.

    I’m surprised your arm isn’t dislocated from all the reaching you just did.

  332. NYCmike says:

    Who is the one with the dislocation?

    I didn’t blame the Libertarian Party. I stated “Looks like Bevin should have done more outreach.”.

    My comment was made because you are the one who can never blame your preferred candidate, instead needing to find someone else to blame.

    Try to be consistent.

    If Aaron Day was responsible in New Hampshire, you would have blamed Hicks in Kentucky.

  333. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Sessions seeking Alabama senate seat (sources).

  334. Tina says:

    So, the Ky sales tax increase impacted 95% of the residents.

    No wonder Bevin had a 32 percent approval rate.

  335. Tina says:

    Ratcliffe destroys Taylor

    GOP TX Rep Ratcliffe to Taylor: And to your knowledge, nobody in the Ukrainian Government was aware of the hold?
    Taylor: That is correct. Ratcliffe: Great. Thank you for clarifying.

  336. NYCmike says:

    Sessions time has come and gone.

  337. Bitterlaw says:

    Sessions time has come and gone but there is always time for Roy Moore.

    I fixed it for NYC.

    I do not blame Libertarians for Bevin losing. They are Libertarians who only want to cast protest votes. They would never have voted for Bevin and would have stayed home if they did not have a candidate.

  338. Bitterlaw says:

    352 Probably. Not everybody is as crazy as I was to run in unwinnable races.

  339. Tina says:

    I disagree, nyc. He can win the seat back easily.

    I think he was a terrible ag though. Got intimidated by McCabe and the Drat plants.

  340. Wes says:

    Mikey, as I recall, after you and Aron Day finished going ass to mouth following Kelly Ayotte’s concession speech, Day actually bragged about having succeeded in his goal to help Maggie Hassan win. I can hardly fail to blame the guy who ran for the sole purpose of helping a Senator with a 60% approval rating lose for causing her to lose.

    As far as the Libertarian in KY, usually that party has little or no effect on races there. It depends on what kind of campaign the Libertarian ran. Even so, the critical factor in Bevin’s defeat was how far he ran behind his previous showing in 2015. The Libertarian may not have helped, but Bevin picked too many fights with too many people and became too unpopular to be viable for reelection.

  341. CG says:

    2016 PA Presidential exit poll:
    https://www.cnn.com/election/2016/results/exit-polls/pennsylvania/president

    Opinion of Hillary

    42 Fav (2% voted for Trump)
    57 Unfav (10 percent still voted for her)

    Opinion of Trump
    42 Fav (4% voted for Hillary)
    56 Unfav (17 PERCENT STILL VOTED FOR TRUMP)

    (Please note that this is actually the closest this question appears of *all* swing states. In the others, Trump is more unpopular than Hillary)

    Is Trump honest and trustworthy?

    38 yes (5% voted for Clinton)
    60 no (21 % STILL VOTED FOR TRUMP, 5 % voted other)

    Trump qualified to serve?

    43 yes (5% voted for Clinton)
    56 no (17 % STILL VOTED FOR TRUMP, 5 % voted other)

    Trump have temperament to be President?

    37 Yes (2 % voted for Clinton)
    62 No (21 % STILL VOTED FOR TRUMP, 5 % voted other)

    70% said Trump’s treatment of women bothered them and yet 30% still voted for him.

    Trump’s signature issue- Illegal immigrants:

    67 legal status (33% voted for Trump, 4 percent voted other)
    31 deport (14% voted for Hillary)

    The numbers are clear from PA (and even more clear in the other swing states Trump got more votes than Hillary in…)

    She lost PA far more than he won it.

    It is unimaginable that a different Republican would have had worse numbers on the questions cited above or had the issues Trump had. Yet, he still got enough votes to carry the state.

    Is someone actually going to suggest that a different Republican, who was more favorable, deemed more honest, more qualified, without the problem of temperament or the treatment of women and without so many disagreeing on the immigration issue would have done WORSE? Not a chance.

    Check out the voting numbers for yourself and check them out in any of the states, red, blue, or purple.

  342. NYCmike says:

    Tina,

    He could probably win it back, but I would rather a younger, more aggressive candidate win the Republican primary.

  343. NYCmike says:

    Wes, all those words (shocker!) and all you needed to say was “I agree with you, NYCmike. It was Bevin’s fault.”

  344. CG says:

    In 2015, an Independent candidate got 4 percent of the vote for Kentucky Governor (double the amount this year) and Bevin still won by 9.

    Bevin lost the election yesterday. Facts are facts.

  345. NYCmike says:

    “Bevin lost the election yesterday. Facts are facts.”

    -Another person who agrees with me.

    Thank you!

  346. NYCmike says:

    The increased amount of total votes from 2015 to 2019 is pretty amazing.

  347. CG says:

    NYC, four years ago, when most of us were surprised at Bevin’s margin (if not the win itself) you were saying you knew it all along and you thought he was the future of the party.

    That turned out not to be the case. He turned out to be a political disaster once given a chance to hold office because he was much like Trump, and had been even before Trump ran (although with a more noble background as a family man and before he entered politics)

  348. Bitterlaw says:

    My wife, Jason and MD would have voted for Rubio or any other Republican in 2016. Would some other candidate have been able to capitalize on the anti-Hillary mood without Trump’s baggage? I think it is possible but it is pure speculation at this point.

  349. CG says:

    362. There is much desire to vote against anything Trump wants.

    That is a sign that Democrat turnout (in swing states) should be expected to be way up from 2016.

    Would Bevin have lost had Trump not gone to Kentucky? Almost certainly and probably by a somewhat wider margin.

    Did the Trump rally drive out the anti-Bevin vote as well? Yes. This is a case of
    “Both Things are True.”

    When a race is close, everything makes the difference.

    Considering Trump won KY by 30 points, the race should not have theoretically even been close.

  350. CG says:

    This “only Trump could have won” nonsense that jason and some others push is really nothing but a manifest of guilt. They have to convince themselves that because deep down supporting Trump tears them up inside.

    Even right before the election, jason was saying “well if Trump wins, that means anyone would have won too.”

  351. NYCmike says:

    “and you thought he was the future of the party.”

    -I did think he would win in 2015, and the little I read about him was good news. I don’t think I ever called him “the future of the party”. I would LOVE to see where I made that comment.

    I readily admit that I heard ZERO about an increased sales tax (Robbie, nothing on this?), and the Libertarian Party clearly had issues with him, as shown by the statement linked to above.

    In a race where the other side was energized to a Presidential level, Bevin should have done more outreach and been more accommodating to other political factions that usually would support the Republican candidate.

  352. jason says:

    Is someone actually going to suggest that a different Republican, who was more favorable, deemed more honest, more qualified, without the problem of temperament or the treatment of women and without so many disagreeing on the immigration issue would have done WORSE? ”

    In the first place, there was no such fictional Republican.

    None of the Rs running would have won PA. At best they would have matched Romney’s performance, not bad, but still 300k votes short.

    But of course, Corey knows that. TDS has completely fogged his brain.

    In my area, Trump out performed Romney by huge margins. It was this more rural, more blue collar voter that didn’t click with Romney that gave Trump the win. This despite the fact Hillary actually did better in the Philly and Pittsburgh burbs than Obama, and the half a million vote head start in Philly.

    These people were not anti-Hillary, they were Pro-Trump.

  353. NYCmike says:

    “Even right before the election, jason was saying “well if Trump wins, that means anyone would have won too.””

    -Link to that comment please.

    I would LOVE to see that one as well.

    If you don’t link to it, I will assume you are going Schiff-ty on us….just making crap up.

  354. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    are you unable to cut and paste these comments people supposedly made at some time in the past?

  355. CG says:

    For every one person in PA who voted for Trump that would not have voted for a different Republican, there were *at least* two statewide, who did not vote for Trump that would have voted for a different Republican.

    jason is even one of them himself, but refuses to admit they exist. Weirdness.

    The numbers speak for themselves.

    Trump was very much disliked in PA (and it’s even worse in other states he won) and yet he still won.

    Why? The answer is Hillary, not Trump.

  356. CG says:

    jason said it specifically about Jeb Bush, whom he always said was the least electable and I have posted it here before. jason knows he said it. He says now that he never meant it.

  357. CG says:

    I’ll check in the archives from four years ago to see what some of things said about Bevin were right after he won.

  358. Tina says:

    China Biden, fourth in Iowa, per latest Quinn poll

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  359. CG says:

    In one part of the state Trump outperformed Romney. The numbers indicate that anybody else, including Romney himself, would have outperformed Romney against Hillary than against Obama.

    jason has to tie himself into a pretzel by insisting that Hillary 2016 was a stronger candidate than Obama 2012. It’s beyond laughable.

    but what about all the parts of PA where Trump vastly underperformed Romney? Those votes count too of course.

    He admitted today that in the numbers game, there are more people who live where Bitterlaw lives than where he lives.

  360. jason says:

    In fact, I came close to predicting a Trump win in PA (remember I said he would do better than Romney but didn’t actually say he would win, only that he had a chance) based on anecdotal evidence.

    At the time, I said the wealthier suburbs of Harrisburg, which had a lot of Romney signs, now had no Trump yard signs. On the other hand, in the surrounding less affluent towns, Trump signs has sprouted like mushrooms, whereas there were few for Romney four years earlier.

    It told me that IF those R suburbs voted for Trump similar to what they did for Romney, albeit without enthusiasm, the added vote from the blue collar areas could make up for that 300k gap.

    And that is exactly what happened. It was a massive pro-Trump vote, not as Corey claims, an anti-Hillary vote.

    Plus, we know the CNN exits were complete trash, they predicted Hillary to win.

  361. Tina says:

    Yotobeotch got a copy of the trump Ukraine call when she was not even on the job any longer.

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  362. CG says:

    For every one person in PA who voted for Trump that would not have voted for a different Republican, there were *at least* two statewide, who did not vote for Trump that would have voted for a different Republican.

  363. Tina says:

    Rand Paul shuts down senate resolution.

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    GOP KY Sen Paul objects to unanimous consent request by Dem HI Sen Hirono for Senate to approve on the spot resolution protecting whistleblowers.

  364. Tina says:

    Impressed with Rand on the latest Soviet Schiff hoax.

    Goober is not fighting. He just wants to go on hannity.

  365. CG says:

    Rand Paul was on Special Report yesterday saying how much he still likes Edward Snowden. Snowden is a terrorist who has likely gotten Americans killed.

    This “whistleblower” might be a Democrat? Hello? What do you expect? Both parties are out to get the other party. Welcome to Politics101.

    In any event, this whistleblower is irrelevant. Trump and his people admitted he did what he did that is going to get him impeached. It’s not a contested case.

  366. Tina says:

    If true, then file.

    Bleed the coup plotters. Entrapment, 6th amendment violation, lying to fisa court. Charge all of them.

    Update: Fox News Reporting John Durham Knows The Crimes That Were Committed, What Group Was Involved, And What Charges to File https://www.waynedupree.com/john-durham-russia-hoax-fisa/ … via @WayneDupreeShow

  367. CG says:

    The Election Night 2015 thread is fun! I’m still going through it. (Amazing we all used to be on the same “side.”)

    It started off with a completely irrelevant but still funny discussion about the number 2,000.

  368. CG says:

    Wow, Robbie did a lisab that night.

    Robbie says:
    November 3, 2015 at 7:49 pm
    Looks like Jack Conway can go back to his sexually ambiguous lifestyle. In Louisville, that’s no secret.

  369. CG says:

    MD, Author, and I were all happy about Bevin….

  370. CG says:

    And four years later, we still are!

    *Rimshot*

  371. CG says:

    Prophetic words:

    Corey says:
    November 3, 2015 at 8:01 pm
    This looks like it is going to turn into a sizable win too.

    Anytime the Democrats lose, it’s great, but this is going to get so much talk about, “we need to go with someone who is a total outsider and never held any office. Look at what happened in Kentucky..”

  372. CG says:

    There are a handful of posts by NYC accusing me and others of being “biased” against Bevin, in not thinking he could win big and how it meant we had it out for conservative politicians.

    No, it just means that Bevin was a dude who got lucky. The night before the election, the outgoing Governor Beshear offered a love poem to Obamacare or something like that.

  373. CG says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 3, 2015 at 8:44 pm
    Author,

    I am not looking to be divisive. I am pointing out that many posters tonight have called Bevin a weak candidate, yet the number of votes keep showing that characterization is wrong.

    I think the bias against more conservative, grassroots-type candidates at HHR is really starting to affect you all emotionally, and it shows in the predictions, and in the words you all use to describe specific candidates.

  374. CG says:

    jason says:
    November 3, 2015 at 8:48 pm
    Bevin is a crappy candidate that happened to have won.

    NYC Moron sees that as an invitation to nominate crappy candidates.

    It isn’t.

  375. jason says:

    “Even right before the election, jason was saying “well if Trump wins, that means anyone would have won too.””

    So, I have admitted here that I was wrong about that, just like I was wrong the Trump would never get the nomination.

    The results speak for themselves. Trump got over 200 counties, mostly in the heartland and mostly in blue collar ares, to switch from Obama to him.

    That is why he won. It was a pro-Trump vote, not an anti-Hillary vote.

  376. CG says:

    Counties don’t vote. People vote. (I have seen elections in IL where the Republicans wins every county but 1 and still loses.)

    I repeat…

    For every one person in PA who voted for Trump that would not have voted for a different Republican, there were *at least* two statewide, who did not vote for Trump that would have voted for a different Republican.

  377. CG says:

    How many towns, counties, etc switched from Romney to Hillary?

    Way too many.

    How many House districts switched from R to D last year?

    Way too many.

    Republicans have a toxic problem in the suburbs as long as DJT is leading the party.

    But yeah, Hillary was stronger than Obama. Right?

  378. Phil says:

    ….and I thought people (voters) lived in counties. Silly me.

  379. Tina says:

    Peach ent is not going well for the Soviets:

    Mark Meadows
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    Just finished with Ambassador David Hale’s testimony, the number 3 at the State Department and a distinguished public servant.

    He made a compelling case that there was absolutely no linkage between suspension of military aid and political investigations.

  380. Tina says:

    Arrogant swamp rat Taylor is an embarrassment as a witness.

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    Star witness? Taylor said in depo he believed reason POTUS wanted Ukraine to investigate Ukrainians’ interference w/ the 2016 election & Burisma was just to get dirt on Biden. He later admitted to me his sole source of info was…wait for it…The NY Times.

  381. NYCmike says:

    2015: Bevin wins by a good amount running as a conservative.

    2019: Bevin trails by a small amount, after pushing a sales tax INCREASE and pissing off Libertarians, and the Democratic candidate gets Presidential year participation.

    “CG”: different facts don’t matter.

  382. CG says:

    The counties with the most people are voting against Trump, (including places that had been very Republican) It’s simple math.

    Trump does better in counties with the most Cows, although I hear Cash Cow still won’t vote for him.

  383. Tina says:

    The reason to investigate was due to Ukrainians interference in the 2016 election on behalf of Hillary.

    This is mentioned in the Mukehead report, Senate investigstion and a Ukrainian Court determination from 2018.

    After all, aren’t we supposed to look at foreign interference?

  384. CG says:

    This “sales tax” thing is not really getting talked about. Bevin didn’t even run on his record or plan for the future. He ran on “I’m Trump’s guy” Period.

    And if Trump came out for a tax increase, you would be all for it.

  385. NYCmike says:

    “After all, aren’t we supposed to look at foreign interference?”

    Only if it helps Trump.
    -Jebot

  386. Tina says:

    First I heard that a “Republican” pushed a sales tax increase, so large that it impacted 95 percent of the people.

    This sounds a lot like read my lips, no new taxes, when 41taxed the sheot out of everybody.

  387. Phil says:

    I’d say those cow counties did Hillary in. They must have been just a tad relevant. Seems to me that McCain and Bush could have used them.

  388. Tina says:

    And a likely reason why begins had a 30:something approval rate.

    Not even the resident Jebot mentioned the tax increases.
    Very curious.

  389. CG says:

    NYCmike says:
    November 4, 2015 at 12:43 pm
    “He picked her as a running-mate before the primary.”

    -Thanks.

    The more I hear and read about Bevin, the less I think the words “weak” and “idiot” apply to his candidacy.

    NYC was impressed then with Bevin’s black female Lt. Governor running-mate. But not a word when he dumped her for a white guy this cycle.

  390. Phil says:

    His source was the NYT? He said that?

    This just keeps getting better and better.

  391. CG says:

    Any Republican would have beaten Hillary in the Cow Counties.

    What about the counties filled with rich people like Bitterlaw’s friends and neighbors who used to vote Republican and now revolt at the thought of DJT?

  392. CG says:

    Monday night, DJT, “Bevin is my guy. He is exactly what Kentucky needs. A vote against him is a personal insult to me that will look very, very bad.

    Wednesday afternoon- DJT acolytes- “Bevin… nothing more than a tax hiking RINO. Glad he lost!”

  393. Tina says:

    Yup, from his deposition. No wonder the Rs were giddy after Taylor’s

    Taylor never met trump.

    Taylor never sat in on any calls.

    Taylor basically knew nothing

  394. NYCmike says:

    “And if Trump came out for a tax increase, you would be all for it.”

    -Why say such a stupid thing?

    If Trump came out for a tax increase, I would speak out against it, and look for a Republican Senate to not even give it a vote.

  395. NYCmike says:

    “NYC was impressed then with Bevin’s black female Lt. Governor running-mate. But not a word when he dumped her for a white guy this cycle.”

    -The link to the KY Libertarian Party guy mentioned that. I was ignorant of that fact.

    One more reason to blame Bevin, as I have since the beginning.

    He was stupid to get rid of her.

  396. CG says:

    No, you would blame the Republican Senators and call for them to be primaried.

    You would say Trump has the right to raise taxes because Ronald Reagan did it in California.

  397. Tina says:

    And Yokopsychobeotch needs to see a shrink.

    She also knows nothing.

    Appears to have targeted republicans by illegal wiretapping.

    She basically admits she did it in her depot

    These freaks are playing with fire.

  398. CG says:

    Ok, NYC, you have turned on Bevin. But you were in love with him (politically) four years ago right after he won.

    It’s good you saw the light. One day you will deny that you ever cared for Trump at all.

  399. CG says:

    Why was he “stupid” to get rid of her?

    Might he have had a legitimate reason?

    Is it not “ok to be white?”

  400. Tina says:

    I did not follow the my race or blevin.

    Ex post facto, I wanted to know why his counterparts for office did well, including the Vlack American AG.

    LOSING 120000 votes is eye opening

    Pissing off republicans with tax increases may be a reason, in addition to others.

    Being down 17/19 points 2 weeks before the election is also a concern

    Just saying.

  401. NYCmike says:

    What else you have, “CG”?

    Bevin made smart moves in the run-up to his 2015 victory.

    Since then, although I would rather have seen him win than Beshear, it is obvious he made stupid political moves.

    The link to that Libertarian Party is pretty clear. Bevin screwed the pooch, and is to blame for the loss.

    I appreciate the fact that you and Wes agree with me on this.

  402. CG says:

    The whole argument in 2015 was that Bevin did not make any smart moves but simply got lucky.

    He won a primary by 83 votes because the opponents were attacking each other.

    Then, he ran against proven loser Jack Conway.

    And people in Kentucky were just mad as hell at Obama. The race was nationalized and the Republican won. (The night before Gov. Beshear spoke positively about Obamacare)

    He nationalized the race this time as well (really has no other choice) and the Republican lost.

  403. NYCmike says:

    “Why was he “stupid” to get rid of her?”

    -He may have had a legitimate reason, but the Libertarian Party didn’t think so, and you haven’t provided any reason either.

    Self-inflicted wound by Bevin, and it looks like it bit him in the arse.

  404. Tina says:

    Bevin appears to be Bush 41 redux.

  405. CG says:

    The Libertarian Party is not an excuse.

    Four years ago there was a center-right (I think) Independent on the ballot who was polling at about 8 percent.

    On Election Day, that total fell to four and Bevin still won comfortably.

    Bevin lost not because the Democrats beat him.

    I think Rocky Adkins, the more conservative Democrat who had lost in the primary (a third candidate was considered the most liberal) would have beaten Bevin even worse.

  406. NYCmike says:

    “Is it not “ok to be white?””

    -As I already said, I didn’t realize the former Lt Gov got replaced.

    If the new pick was white, so be it. I hope they don’t feel guilty about it like you do.

  407. Tina says:

    Looks like they are trying to move Jordan, zeldin, and Ratcliffe to open session.

    The Rs have not yet made that request.

    The soviets, headed by Botox ic, could prevent the move,

  408. CG says:

    I mean Bevin lost because the Democrats beat him.

    Blaming the Libertarian is dumb. It’s like blaming the Electoral College. Everyone knew the rules and the players going in.

    Libertarians have cost Republicans many Senate races over the past several cycles perhaps because of people wanting to “send a message.”

  409. NYCmike says:

    “The Libertarian Party is not an excuse.”

    -I didn’t say they were.

    I specifically said ” “Looks like Bevin should have done more outreach.”. (This is the 3rd time I posted this same statement).

  410. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    Who blamed the Libertarians?

  411. Tina says:

    Maybe Bevin should have done more outreach and vetoed any tax increases.

    I suppose that a good, Republican Governor would do that. Not do a massive George Bush like tax increase.

    Wtf.

  412. CG says:

    Why was the Lt. Governor replaced?

    He never really gave a reason. She openly said she was surprised though. Apparently, he filed with the other guy on the paperwork and she had no idea.

    Rick Scott had a falling-out with his first Lt. Governor (a black woman) and he managed to win a second term.

  413. NYCmike says:

    “Why was the Lt. Governor replaced?”

    -No idea.

  414. Phil says:

    The counties that Trump flipped weren’t “cow counties”. They were white working class counties like Erie and Lackawanna just like Macomb County is hardly some rural county in Michigan. Feel free to look up how MCCain and Romney did in those counties. There were 200 of them almost all in the rust belt plus Minn and Iowa. You can add the gains Trump made in Ohio as well.

  415. CG says:

    What more outreach could Bevin have done unless Bevin completely changed who he was the past four years?

    Trump won KY by 30 points. Bevin ran as “Trump’s guy.” Why wasn’t that enough to win easily? Trump came in for him on Election Eve. They all said Beshear was a “Hunter Biden.” Shouldn’t those hits have reached the top of the charts?

  416. Tina says:

    I don’t know this person, if he has a job, he should not have one. Again, no wonder the Rs were giddy after Taylor. Ratcliffe and others destroyed ambassador pompous.

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  417. NYCmike says:

    You need to start reading other people’s comments.

    “What more outreach could Bevin have done unless Bevin completely changed who he was the past four years?”

    Tina says:
    November 6, 2019 at 1:29 pm

    The ky libertarian party is happy with Bevin losing. I did not realize that Bevin raised sales taxes (if their statement is true). If true, sounds like Bevin governed more like a Bushie or the Schwarznkennedy wing.

    https://twitter.com/AdrianNormanDC/status/1192102901222539264/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1192102901222539264&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconservativetreehouse.com%2F2019%2F11%2F06%2Fnovember-6th-2019-presidential-politics-trump-administration-day-1021%2F

  418. jason says:

    I always called Bevin a Paulbot moron, that is why I wanted him to win by one vote.

    He was only 5001 votes short of that.

  419. CG says:

    Yes, Trump won some counties that Obama had won (though the evidence in 2018 and 2019 seems to indicate problems there now) and also lost a lot of places where Romney and McCain had won.

    A vote is a vote.

    I think it is pretty obvious that *almost* all of the the people who switched from Obama to Trump would have also voted for a different Republican while many McCain/Romney voters abandoned Trump and aren’t ever going to vote for him.

    Look at the exit polls. It’s crystal clear. Pick. any.state.

  420. Tina says:

    There are strong rumors that the Gossip blower is the anonymous book writer.

    It’s no wonder that the lawyah does not want his name released.

    He gets a financial benefit if the book is published.

  421. jason says:

    I am sorry that the people of ME and KY have to pay higher taxes, but not that LePage and Bevin are gone.

    Now if we can only get rid of Rand Paul.

  422. CG says:

    Trump didn’t call Bevin a tax raiser. Trump said he agreed totally and completely with Bevin as Governor.

    So, was Bevin a Socialist after all?

  423. Wes says:

    Bevin ran in the suburbs about where he’d run in 2015. He lost significant ground in the rurals and exurbs because of his proposals for tax increases and toll roads. That made the difference.

    Suburbs are still a concern for the GOP in the Age of Trump as evidenced by VA and PA. Hell, in MS, Jim Hood ran decently in the suburbs, though of course MS won’t be a battleground state next year.

    Suburbs were not, however, the reason Bevin lost. He made a series of boneheaded mistakes that undermined his standing with voters.

    That said, Trump, while not the reason Bevin lost, suffered a defeat here as well. He went all in for Bevin and said a vote for Conway was a vote for impeachment. Well, Bevin lost, and Trump put himself in a precarious position by framing the issue that way because now Dems can say Trump compared their election to impeachment and lost on his own turf.

  424. CG says:

    Apparently, Rand Paul can be expelled from the Senate or indicted if he names the “whistleblower” or something like that.

    Who replaces him though? Bevin or Beshear?

  425. Tina says:

    Raising taxes is not Republican.

    Raising sales taxes adversely impacts the poor and the middle class.

    He gave away tax cuts for the rich doing this, but adversely impacting 95% of the residents.

    This is not conservative.

    This is Drat

  426. jason says:

    “Even right before the election, jason was saying “well if Trump wins, that means anyone would have won too.”

    Wrong. Most of these were Democrats from places like Erie, PA and Youngstown, OH.

    They weren’t going to vote for Rubio or Kasich, let alone for Jeb.

    That is crystal clear.

    Only Trump would have carried these areas, and only Trump will carry them again.

    Haley? No. Pence? No.

  427. Tina says:

    No, the whistleblower law does not apply to congress,

    The whistleblower statute also cannot trump the constitution.

    Next.

  428. CG says:

    Rand Paul said on tv yesterday that he was the victim of two acts of political violence.

    Yes, he was at the baseball practice. Had to have been scary for anyone. He was not hurt.

    The thing with his neighbor? I am sorry it happened to him. It was clearly illegal and uncalled for, but there was no evidence it was politically motivated. His neighbor attacked him because Rand Paul is apparently a bad neighbor.

  429. jason says:

    Wrong quote.

    That was in response to:

    I think it is pretty obvious that *almost* all of the the people who switched from Obama to Trump would have also voted for a different Republican”

    Absurd. Delusional. TDS.

  430. CG says:

    Are putting in place tariffs a Republican idea?

    I don’t know the minutia of KY government but nobody here said a word about Bevin and raising taxes until after he lost and if he had won, nobody here would be criticizing him for it now.

  431. Wes says:

    Raising taxes is not Republican.

    Tina should have put the caveat “unless Trump wants to raise tariffs” on this since HHR has made raising tariffs a cause celebre.

  432. CG says:

    For every voter in Pennsylvania who voted for Trump but would not have voted for a different Republican, there were two that did not vote for Trump that would have.

  433. jason says:

    His neighbor attacked him because Rand Paul is apparently a bad neighbor.”

    And you know this how?

    You really are a joke.

    Not that being a bad neighbor would justify such an attack anyway, but nobody here knows what kind of neighbor Rand Paul is.

  434. Tina says:

    The whistleblower cannot remain anonymous.

    He has rights of protection from retaliation.

    This assumes that the person is even a real whistleblower.

    His lawyer needs to quit threatening.

  435. CG says:

    The testimony in the trial was all about years worth of arguing over leaves and whatnot.

    The guy who attacked Paul deserved to go to prison. He was guilty.

    There is no evidence though that it was a “political attack.”

  436. Tina says:

    Maybe, at a trump rally, they will chant:

    Out the whistleblower.

    Triggering the bots.

  437. Phil says:

    Paul was attacked because he was a bad neighbor?

    I’ve heard it all now. I have had some bad neighbors. It never even occurred to me to physically attack any of them.

    The guy was a leftist moonbat. Like most of those he was out of his mind with rage.

  438. jason says:

    For every voter in Pennsylvania who voted for Trump but would not have voted for a different Republican, there were two that did not vote for Trump that would have.”

    Facts not in evidence and we know this is not true by the results.

    Trump lost some votes in the Philly burbs, true, but he more than made up for it in rural/blue collar areas.

    The Pro-Trump vote in Pennsylvania was absolutely spectacular. It trumped any “anti-Trump” vote that would have voted for a different R by a huge margin.

    Trump won by like 60k votes. So he made up a 360k deficit Romney had. Even more considering he had to make up a bigger deficit than Romney coming out of Philly and its burbs.

    This was not anti-Hillary. It was Pro-Trump. Only the Never Trumpers will not admit it.

  439. jason says:

    The testimony in the trial was all about years worth of arguing over leaves and whatnot.”

    That makes Paul a “bad neighbor”.

    One thing about Corey, when he starts digging a hole, he won’t stop.

    Just admit you don’t know what kind of neighbor Paul is or isn’t, and certainly the neighbor who attacked him saying that doesn’t mean it’s true.

  440. CG says:

    As I said clearly, the guy who attacked Rand Paul belongs behind bars.

    Where is there any evidence though that he was a “leftist?”

  441. Phil says:

    As far as an ongoing “feud”. They had spoken exactly one time and it was months before the “incident”.

    As far as expelled from the senate that’s a lefty wet dream. Never Trumpers and Moonbat seem to share the same wet dreams these days.

  442. jason says:

    The neighbor evidently was a leftist.

    I don’t know why he attacked Paul, maybe it was political, maybe it wasn’t.

    Corey doesn’t know either.

    We don’t know if Paul is a good or bad neighbor, or neither.

    Corey doesn’t know either.

  443. CG says:

    jason has called Rand Paul every horrible name in the book but takes umbrage at the term “bad neighbor.”

  444. CG says:

    See 438 Phil.

    Sounds like jason’s wet dream.

  445. CG says:

    Where is the evidence the neighbor was a leftist?

    Anything at all? Donations? Public statements? Manifestos? Anything?

    Far more evidence that Rand could be a lefist with some of his positions.

  446. CG says:

    For every voter in Pennsylvania who voted for Trump but would not have voted for a different Republican, there were two that did not vote for Trump that would have.”

    jason- “facts not in evidence.” Says it all.

  447. CG says:

    Prosecutors never claimed the attack on Rand Paul was politically motivated. If that was something they had evidence on, they could have gotten a much steeper conviction or it would have been referred to the Feds

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/prosecutors-reveal-why-rand-paul-was-attacked-neighbor-n839366

  448. CG says:

    Correction-

    It was a federal case because of who Paul is.

    No evidence was presented in court to claim that Paul was attacked for political reasons.

    And are all people who find Rand on Ron Paul’s politics bad a leftist? If so, what does that make jason?

  449. Tina says:

    2 replies 11 retweets 11 likes
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    Trump Approval today
    Rasmussen LV 46%
    Economist RV 45%

    RCP aggregate right back to where it was on 10/2 after MSM has done its worst including WashPost 39% Fox 42% “polls”

  450. jason says:

    Boucher is a registered Democrat. He is shown through Facebook postings to be highly critical of President Donald Trump, Boucher is also an advocate for gun control and healthcare reform.”

    His neighbors say he is a socialist, but maybe just because he is a Dem.

    But in any case leftist seems fair.

    Still doesn’t mean that is why he attacked Paul, but it certainly is possible.

  451. CG says:

    MSN is now doing daily Presidential tracking polls.

    Today have Trump rising from 41 yesterday to 42 today, so rejoice!

    However, they also have remove from office going from 50 to 51 today.

  452. Tina says:

    This is gossip blowers attorney weeks before trump even took office:

    https://twitter.com/MarkSZaidEsq/status/826261939235979265

  453. CG says:

    468. Link please?

  454. Tina says:

    Your brother will be exonerated very soon,

    Joseph J. Flynn ?? ?? ??
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    @JosephJFlynn1
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    Joseph J. Flynn ?? ?? ?? Retweeted JustJim
    We have an Army of #DigitalSoldiers… they have no idea who they are dealing with @BarbaraRedgate @SidneyPowell1 @GoJackFlynn @flynn_neill

  455. jason says:

    I am not a Dem, and I don’t favor gun control or socialized medicine.

    I don;t think Rand Paul is a R or a conservative.

    I am not a leftist.

  456. Tina says:

    When will the jebots recycle this?

    CNN Business
    “Recession fears are receding”
    3 replies 9 retweets 24 likes

  457. Tina says:

    Laughing my arse off. Is Botoxic trying to reign in the Nuts?

    Elma Aksalic
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    @ElmaAksalic
    Follow Follow @ElmaAksalic
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    BREAKING: House impeachment investigators have withdrawn a subpoena for a top aide to former national security adviser John Bolton.

  458. jason says:

    “Jim Bullington, a former city commission member who knows both men, told the Post that the two, who live next to each other in their gated community, often engaged in heated exchanges about politics; Boucher is a vocal anti-Trump socialist, according to Bullington, while the libertarian Paul voted against an Obamacare repeal attempt because it didn’t go far enough in severing federal aid.”

  459. NYCmike says:

    “Are putting in place tariffs a Republican idea?”

    -Founding Fathers weren’t Republicans, but Reagan and Dubya were, according to posters here.

    Does that make it “a Republican idea”, or just a different way to approach a problem that may or may not work?

  460. CG says:

    Link?

    After years of attacking Ron and Rand Paul you are ashamed to admit you are turning to pro-Paul sources to back up the claim that was never presented in court.

    And if they had not talked in “years”, as Rand Paul claims, how did they get into a fight over Obamacare?

  461. CG says:

    Many of the Founding Fathers also owned slaves?

    Does that make it a good idea?

  462. Tina says:

    Eric Ciaramella Attorney, January 2017: “Coup Has Started” – July 2017: “We Will Remove Him”…

  463. jason says:

    The attacker is a leftist.

    We don’t really know why he attacked Rand Paul.

    We don’t know if Rand Paul is a good or bad neighbor.

    Corey is full of crap.

    All these are true.

  464. Phil says:

    Screen shots of anti Trump quotes that Boucher later deleted and testimony of neighbors regarding Boucher’s politics.

    Evidence it wasn’t political? We have Boucher’s denial. Period. In fact, the behavior seems rather consistent with throwing Trump administration officials out of restaurants and, should I dare say, shooting up Republican soft ball practices.

    Of course, it could just be the very common violent physical attack on a “bad neighbor”.

  465. CG says:

    Where is the evidence he is a leftist?

    You even admit you do not believe that is why Rand Paul was attacked. Rand Paul is claiming he was attacked for political reasons.

    They both were bad neighbors. Only one deserves to go to jail though.. .unless Paul breaks the law as a Senator.

  466. jason says:

    Boucher is a registered Democrat. He is shown through Facebook postings to be highly critical of President Donald Trump, Boucher is also an advocate for gun control and healthcare reform.”

    I don’t know of any Pro Paul sources except maybe Daily Paul, don’t even know if it still exists.

    I googled “Rand Paul attacker a leftist” and that came up in several articles, but I don’t know which one is the original.

    Look it up yourself. I quoted it verbatim, no editing. You can find it if you cut and paste.

    GFY.

  467. CG says:

    Boucher theoretically being anti-Trump doesn’t make him a leftist. Rand Paul had many bad things to say about Trump too.

    Nobody has has worse things in the past to say about Rand Paul than Trump himself.

    This is all ridiculous. If there was a political angle, it would have easily been part of the charges.

    Rand Paul claims he did not speak to Boucher for years.

    Is he lying?

    The one guy you are using to claim that Boucher is a “socialist” says they fought about politics all the time.

    It can’t be both.

  468. CG says:

    You are cutting and pasting directly from Paul sources, the same ones you said made bunu a Nazi when he posted them here.

    Complete hypocrite.

  469. Bitterlaw says:

    Maybe Bevin should have done more outreach and vetoed any tax increases. I suppose that a good, Republican Governor would do that. Not do a massive George Bush like tax increase.

    Maybe Tina should be worried that Bevin was Trump’s guy AFTER such a tax increase.

  470. jason says:

    and Paul is claiming he was attacked for political reasons.”

    I don’t believe anything he says.

    I just took issue with your categorical statement “he was attacked because he was a bad neighbor”.

    And I took issue with the “neighbor is not a leftist” or something like that, because I had remembered reading the guy was a moonbat.

    But feel free to keep digging.

  471. CG says:

    “I can’t believe anything he says.”

    But “bad neighbor” is a blood libel!

  472. CG says:

    Yeah, you read it in Ron Paul blogs or newsletters and are ashamed to admit it because you probably don’t even believe it.

  473. CG says:

    I think jason would be a bad neighbor.

    Wakes up way too early and I heard he shot his dog.

  474. CG says:

    I am sure jason will also tell us that he believes Clarence Thomas should have resigned from the Supreme Court when he recently missed a couple of sessions due to illness.

  475. Phil says:

    Given the absolute nutty behavior of leftists over the last three years I’m not giving this guy any benefit of the doubt.

    Anyway, it cost the guy over half a million he had to pay up after the lawsuit and the 30 day jail sentence was overturned by a higher court as too lenient. At last report it was still being adjudicated.

    I hope it was worth it to him. My guess is he’d think twice about doing it again.

  476. jason says:

    You are cutting and pasting directly from Paul sources, the same ones you said made bunu a Nazi when he posted them here.”

    Here is where I got it. Doesn’t look like a Paul site to me, pretty balanced account.

    I guess you never tire of being wrong.

    https://heavy.com/news/2017/11/rene-boucher-rand-paul-assault/.

  477. CG says:

    Ok, so because some leftists have acted nutty, you are automatically going to assume that was the motivation here.

    Gee Phil, I hope you don’t ever get accused of doing something because of your politics, simply because other Trump supporters have committed high profile crimes.

  478. jason says:

    am sure jason will also tell us that he believes Clarence Thomas should have resigned from the Supreme Court when he recently missed a couple of sessions due to illness.”

    No, but I sure think Ginsburg, who has pancreatic cancer, should resign.

  479. CG says:

    Heavy.com is apparently the best you can do. Fitting.

    So, it says the FBI investigated if there was a political connection. Apparently, none was found.

    Do you not believe the FBI? Did you not believe them when they exonerated Bret Kavanaugh? You sound like a typical political conspiracy nutjob now.

    If your neighbor ever gets attacked, we can be sure to tell the media that you are the suspected leftist since there are literally hundreds of posts of you calling Donald Trump a “racist” a “fascist”, a “con-man” and a “Klansman.”

  480. Bitterlaw says:

    This was not anti-Hillary. It was Pro-Trump.

    Not in Radnor, mf-er.

  481. Phil says:

    No more than you categorically saying this happened because of “bad neigboring”

  482. jason says:

    But “bad neighbor” is a blood libel!”

    Good, so you admit you have no basis for saying that.

    The truth will set you free.

    It’s funny you attack Phil for saying it was political, because of lack of evidence, yet you are comfortable saying it happened because Paul was a bad neighbor.

    You really ooze hypocrisy.

  483. CG says:

    Why should Ginsburg resign over health? She has been able to do the work required and has attended the vast majority of court proceedings, just like Clarence Thomas who due to an illness also missed a small amount of time.

    Nobody should resign because of cancer. And nobody should be denied their “will to live” as you said.

  484. Bitterlaw says:

    Wakes up way too early and I heard he shot his dog.

    I heard the dog’s name was Greedo and he shot first.

  485. CG says:

    I have no idea what kind of neighbor either was. Some of you took that way too seriously. I clearly and obviously said the attacker was wrong and deserved to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

    But there is *zero* evidence the attack had political motivation, as Rand Paul claimed on tv yesterday. The FBI looked into that and found none. But I suppose Rand Paul might think the FBI are a bunch of jack-booted thugs, like many of his acolytes do.

  486. jason says:

    This was not anti-Hillary. It was Pro-Trump.

    Not in Radnor, mf-er.”

    Correct, I already stated Trump did worse than Romney there.

    The pro-Trump vote in the rest of the state trumped that.

    When Trump had a rally in Hershey, it blocked traffic for 10 miles in every direction, if not more.

  487. Phil says:

    Corey, I’m perfectly happy to let John Durham sort out what was and what wasn’t a conspiracy. How about you?

  488. CG says:

    Do you people think Rand Paul might be a good neighbor?

    It’s a gut call. Think what you will.

    All I know is either they didn’t talk at all for years as Paul said (even though their kids were friends on Facebook per jason’s source)or they “argued about politics all the time” as the Rand Paul supporter who called Boucher a “socialist” claims.

    It can’t be both.

  489. CG says:

    505. No disagreement

  490. jason says:

    I have no idea what kind of neighbor either was.”

    Bingo.

    20 posts later, after failing miserably to wiggle out of it, he admits he was wrong.

    Now how about apologizing for saying I cut and paste from pro-Paul sites?

    Nahhh….

  491. Bitterlaw says:

    When Trump had a rally in Hershey, it blocked traffic for 10 miles in every direction, if not more.

    Zzzzzzzzz. Country roads. A tractor with a flat tire can block those roads for miles, too.

  492. jason says:

    Do you people think Rand Paul might be a good neighbor?”

    It’s entirely possible.

    I know he sucks as a senator.

  493. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    BREAKING:
    “New from
    @jeffzeleny
    : Jeff Sessions will jump into the Alabama Senate race tomorrow, a GOP official familiar tells CNN. Sessions reached his decision over the last several days and hired a consulting firm today, the official said.”

  494. CG says:

    Bitterlaw, do you agree or disagree with this statement?

    “For every person statewide in PA who voted for Trump that would not have voted for a different Republican, there are two people who did not vote for Trump that would have voted for a different Republican.”

  495. Bitterlaw says:

    I had a neighbor who was a flaming liberal. She was a teacher who made certain to tell me that she did not vote for me when I ran for the School Board. She was mad at me when my cat killed a bird. Her 2 year old grandson liked to play in my yard and pet the cat.

    There was no violence.

  496. Phil says:

    Tough break for Tommy Tuberville.

    Either way Doug Jones is going bye bye and the Republican Senate is safe until at least 2020 – unless you are delusional enough to think Guys like Cronyn in Texas are going to be taken out.

  497. Tina says:

    I know Hillary is a great Neighbor.

    -Jebot

  498. CG says:

    If Sessions is nominated, the Trump rally for him will be hilarious.

  499. Phil says:

    He won’t need a rally, Corey.

  500. CG says:

    Would Trump support him in the general?

    And are you sure?

  501. Bitterlaw says:

    Bitterlaw, do you agree or disagree with this statement?

    “For every person statewide in PA who voted for Trump that would not have voted for a different Republican, there are two people who did not vote for Trump that would have voted for a different Republican.”

    I won’t put that kind of number on it. I know Republicans who left the Presidential vote blank who would have voted for any other Republican. I have no idea what those upstate hicks or central PA rednecks would have done. I don’t speak Deplorable. Ask Jason.

  502. Phil says:

    What’s he going to do, endorse Jones?

    Probably won’t do anything. It’s a Presidential year. The entire R slate in Alabama will sweep into office.

  503. CG says:

    Well, jason is actually one of the people I am describing (as well as several of his family members) yet he wants to pretend like they do not even exist.

    I am saying that nearly everybody who voted for Trump against Hillary would have voted for a different Republican against Hillary.

    So, moving on beyond that, there would also have been many people who did not vote for Trump but would have voted for someone else (we can leave Ted Cruz out of it).

    The exit polls speak for themselves in PA and every other state.

    Trump’s numbers were horrible. People thought he was unqualified and unworthy, yet many held their noses and voted for him.

    Any other Republican would not have had that much baggage. They would have gotten more than enough votes in enough states to get well over 270 and nobody would even be talking about the popular vote since it would have easily gone Republican against Hillary.

  504. CG says:

    We just know that if Trump Tweets that Alabama Republicans should oppose Sessions in the primary, that NYC and Tina and jason will go along with that.

    So, it’s not a given Sessions will be nominated.

    No, he probably doesn’t need Trump to win, but there will be a lot of Trump die-hards who know exactly all the horrible things Trump has said about Sessions and how he blames him for what happened to him. So, still plenty of unknowns.

  505. Tina says:

    Read the transcript of the scam artist Taylor

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EIt_X0aWkAELW2N.jpg

  506. CG says:

    Can someone really suggest the “hicks” and “rednecks” (Bitterlaw’s words) were going to vote for Hillary if they couldn’t vote for Trump?

    Does anybody actually believe that Hillary’s 2016 campaign was stronger than Obama running as the incumbent in 2012 as jason has stated he believes?

  507. CG says:

    If Sessions is getting in, then a whole bunch of the other Republicans already in the field better get out, or you are looking at a high probability of Roy Moore getting to a runoff again.

  508. Tina says:

    Breaking. This may be important to the Flynn case.

    Follow Follow @arelab13
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    ??John Solomon on Hannity radio says although IG report shd be out just b4 Thanksgiving, there is another coming out next wk. It was under the radar and involves abuse of FBI sources ie: Steele and Ohr, and others. Says it will be explosive. He’ll reveal more tonight on Hannity

  509. Tina says:

    Gossip blowers attorney also likes young Disney stars and claims he is non partisan.

  510. Bitterlaw says:

    I said hicks and rednecks to poke my A-hole friend.

  511. CG says:

    An attorney who likes young Disney stars?

    Hmmm.

  512. CG says:

    Literally the only Pennsylvanian I can think of who fits jason’s theory is Jul.

  513. CG says:

    Rush Limbaugh claimed today that Bevin lost in Kentucky because “he’s not a nice guy” and that people found him “arrogant.”

    But yet, Trump is cruising to reelection!

  514. CG says:

    Did dblaikie go off to start the recount on his own? Odd he hasn’t posted today..

  515. NYCmike says:

    Will the ABC/Epstein whistleblower be treated the same way as the Democrats whistleblower?

  516. Tina says:

    Retweeted

    Dave Wasserman
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    3h3 hours ago
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    Dave Wasserman Retweeted Jeff Ditzler
    Interesting: GOP actually flipped more county commissions than Democrats in Pennsylvania last night.

  517. Victrc says:

    Well…that was a waste of time reading the last 300 posts.

    Sad to see how some rejoice in seeing Republicans lose.

    Let’s hope LA results mirror MS and we take that Gov. race.

  518. lisab says:

    CNN Criticizes Pregnant Woman For Shooting Poor, Defenseless Man Who Was Simply Seeking Asylum In Her Home
    ATLANTA, GA—After a woman in Florida defended her home from intruders with an AR-15, CNN quickly criticized her for murdering a “poor, defenseless refugee who was probably just applying for asylum in her house.”

    “While many people have heralded this woman as a hero, she is actually a bigot,” said CNN’s Brian Stelter. “A poor, defenseless refugee enters her home seeking asylum, and she responds by shooting him? Definitely a Trump voter.” Stelter pointed out that she used the AR-15 to carry out her murder, the chosen weapon of alt-right radicals who watch Jordan Peterson and Ben Shapiro videos on YouTube.

    Stelter also criticized the family for having walls around their home instead of an “open border” policy where people desiring to immigrate to their home can just come and go as they please.

    “This is Trump’s America,” Stelter concluded, wiping tears from his eyes.

    CNN also criticized her for not aborting her child, pointing out that since she was still pregnant she is likely a pro-life bigot.

    The station has published her home address and is encouraging people to attack her. They are currently looking through her old tweets.

  519. jason says:

    Stivers said he thought Bevin’s speech declining to concede to Beshear was “appropriate.” He said believes most of the votes that went to Libertarian John Hicks, who received about 2% of the total vote, would have gone to Bevin and made him the clear winner.”

    Hello? So fricking what?

    I agree that might be the case, but outside of Maine there is no second preference vote in the US, so you can’t “transfer” any votes.

    Bevin has the right to ask for a recount. But if the votes aren’t there that’s it.

    The “legislature can decide”? No.

  520. lisab says:

    Elizabeth Warren’s Plan To Pay For Medicare For All: Spend So Much The National Debt Clock Rolls Over To Zero

  521. jason says:

    Interesting: GOP actually flipped more county commissions than Democrats in Pennsylvania last night.”

    Right. I made this point earlier today.

    Looking at the county votes, Rs improved in a lot of them.

  522. jason says:

    Does anybody actually believe that Hillary’s 2016 campaign was stronger than Obama running as the incumbent in 2012 as jason has stated he believes”

    The York Co. dogs are salivating at this one.

    Can Corey find a post where I ever said that?

    $1000 for his charity if he does. $1000 for the dogs if he doesn’t.

    Deal?

  523. lisab says:

    Rand Paul, and Fox News should not say the whistleblower’s name Eric Ciaramella, that is not who we are as Americans, we should let Eric Ciaramella stay anonymous.

  524. lisab says:

    Rand Paul blocks Senate push to protect Trump whistleblower Eric Ciaramella

  525. NYCmike says:

    Whistleblowers do not get anonymity.

    They get protections from being fired from their jobs for telling the truth about what happened…….if the employer doesn’t want the information to be public.

    In the case with Trump and the phone call, Trump already released the transcript, and has nothing to hide.

    “CG” to say he is guilty of transparency and should be impeached.

  526. jason says:

    “Mark Zaid, one of the attorneys representing the intelligence community whistleblower at the center of the Democrats’ ongoing impeachment inquiry, tweeted conspicuously in January 2017 that a “coup has started” and that “impeachment will follow ultimately.”

    Then, in July 2017, Zaid remarked, “I predict @CNN will play a key role in @realDonaldTrump not finishing out his full term as president.” Also that month, Zaid tweeted, “We will get rid of him, and this country is strong enough to survive even him and his supporters.”

    Amid a slew of impeachment-related posts, Zaid assured his Twitter followers that “as one falls, two more will take their place,” apparently referring to Trump administration employees who defy the White House. Zaid promised that the “coup” would occur in “many steps.”

  527. jason says:

    I agree we should not expose Eric Ciaramella.

  528. jason says:

    The only thing Trump is actually involved in this whole episode is the phone call.

    We have the transcript. Nothing impeachable or illegal.

    All the rest is opinions, speculation and hyperbole.

    Basically these ambassadors and envoys and NSC people disagreed with Trump’s foreign policy.

    Tough sh-t. The President is the one that decides foreign policy.

    Biggest crock of crap I have ever seen, the rest of the world must think we are morons.

  529. lisab says:

    The media is so committed to protecting this whistleblower, you’d think he was a billionaire pedophile with dirt on Bill Clinton.

  530. lisab says:

    actual headline

    Feinstein Lashes Out at Rand Paul – Warns Him Not to Reveal Name of Anti-Trump CIA ‘Whistleblower’ Eric Ciaramella

  531. lisab says:

    Joe diGenova: I would say explosive and I would say for people at the highest levels of the FBI and at the highest levels of the Justice Department, more important at the Justice Department, it’s going to be devastating. It’s going to ruin careers, it’s going to make people have bar problems… What’s clear now we know is that the senior levels of the Obama Justice Department were complicit in knowingly submitting materially false applications to the FISA Court for an illegitimate counterintelligence purpose. Not for a legitimate purpose but to spy on Americans for political purposes. And it really will end up being the beginning of the greatest political scandal in history. And it’s being held up partially because of John Durham’s new grand jury exists for one reason and one reason only – because people are going to be indicted.

  532. lisab says:

    partisan mix of the district courts

    court, appointed by reps, appointed by dems, open

    # R D O
    1 2 4 0
    2 5 6 2
    3 8 6 0
    4 6 9 0
    5 11 5 1
    6 11 5 0
    7 9 2 0
    8 10 1 0
    9 13 16 0
    10 5 7 0
    11 6 6 0
    dc 4 7 0
    fed 4 8 0

    sooooooo … the districts will now be evenly split once the two new judges are appointed for the 2nd district

    in 2016 9 courts were majority dem appointed judges

    the most notorious was the 9th circuit which was

    7 rep to 18 dem appointed judges

  533. lisab says:

    sorry, circuit courts not district

  534. lisab says:

    in the district courts the partisan split is

    270 rep 320 dem 89 open

    trump will have appointed 200 of the 350 republican appointed judges by the end of his first term

  535. lisab says:

    the next president will appoint approximately

    2 scotus
    40 circuit judges
    150 district judges

    interestingly obama appointed 50 circuit judges over two terms

    trump in his first term will have appointed 47, assuming there are no more retirements

  536. dblaikie says:

    CG I flew to Nevada to visit family. I said there would be a recount last night.

  537. Bitterlaw says:

    I think it is time to stop posting Eric Ciaramella’s name.

  538. Messy says:

    528. Hannity and his guests are never right about these things. If Sean said “2+2=4” I’d have to count my fingers because his credibility is soooo damn low.

  539. jason says:

    Bitter is violating HHR policy by giving out the name of Eric Ciaramella.

  540. jason says:

    If Sean said “2+2=4” I’d have to count my fingers”

    Nah.

    You have to count fingers because your math skills probably rival your English skills.

  541. jason says:

    From Taylor’s testimony.

    “Taylor also testified that his knowledge of the phone call between Trump and Ukrainian president Volodymr Zelensky wasn’t first-hand knowledge.

    “And this isn’t firsthand. It’s not secondhand. It’s not thirdhand,” Rep. Lee Zeldin, R-N.Y., said to Taylor. “But if I understand this correctly, you’re telling us that Tim Morrison told you that Ambassador Sondland told him that the president told Ambassador Sondland that Zelensky would have to open an investigation into Biden?”

    “That’s correct,” Taylor admitted.”

  542. jason says:

    It gets better:

    So do you have any other source that the president’s goal in making this request was anything other than The New York Times?” Zeldin asked.

    “I have not talked to the president,” Taylor said. “I have no other information from what the president was thinking.”

  543. jason says:

    And better:

    “Under questioning from Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, Taylor also testified that the Ukrainian government wasn’t aware U.S. military funding had been temporarily suspended until late August, and then only after the information was leaked to the news media, meaning an alleged quid pro quo would have been impossible.

    “So, if nobody in the Ukrainian government is aware of a military hold at the time of the Trump-Zelensky call, then, as a matter of law and as a matter of fact, there can be no quid pro quo, based on military aid,” Ratcliffe, a former federal prosecutor, said. “I just want to be real clear that, again, as of July 25th, you have no knowledge of a quid pro quo involving military aid.”

    “July 25th is a week after the hold was put on the security assistance,” Taylor testified. “And July 25th, they had a conversation between the two presidents, where it was not discussed.”

    “And to your knowledge, nobody in the Ukrainian government was aware of the hold?” Ratcliffe asked.

    “That is correct,” Taylor responded.”

  544. jason says:

    But this guy is going to be Schiffs first witness.

  545. jason says:

    Joe diGenova: I would say explosive and I would say for people at the highest levels of the FBI and at the highest levels of the Justice Department, more important at the Justice Department, it’s going to be devastating. It’s going to ruin careers, it’s going to make people have bar problems… What’s clear now we know is that the senior levels of the Obama Justice Department were complicit in knowingly submitting materially false applications to the FISA Court for an illegitimate counterintelligence purpose. Not for a legitimate purpose but to spy on Americans for political purposes. And it really will end up being the beginning of the greatest political scandal in history. And it’s being held up partially because of John Durham’s new grand jury exists for one reason and one reason only – because people are going to be indicted.”

    Let’s see. diGenova is no Judge Napolitano. But we heard the Mueller Report was going to be “devastating” too and the volcano spewed out a pebble.

  546. Bitterlaw says:

    Bitter is violating HHR policy by giving out the name of Eric Ciaramella.

    GFY. There has never been a tradition or formal policy of not posting the name Eric Ciaramella. I am sure that if you asked Eric Ciaramella about this, even Eric Ciaramella would admit that there is no policy at HHR regarding Eric Ciaramella.

  547. Tina says:

    Trump hits 50% approval in Rasmussen

  548. Phil says:

    We must keep the whistle blower’s name, Eric Ciaramella, under wraps and out of the public domain. That includes the internet and this site. To state the name Eric Ciaramella on a public forum would be outrageous and inappropriate. The whistle blower, Eric Ciaramella, deserves his privacy and no one needs to reveal his name, Eric Ciaramella.

    Thank you.

  549. Wes says:

    First rule about Eric Ciaramella:

    Do not discuss Eric Ciaramella.

    Sorry. It was the obvious joke to make.

  550. Phil says:

    I knew that one was coming, Wes.

  551. jason says:

    I demand a full investigation on whether Bitter is right that there is no HHR rule regarding disclosure of Eric Ciaramella’s name. Personally, I think we should vote on whether divulging Eric Ciaramella’s name is appropriate. I want to be on record that I don’t think Eric Ciaramella’s name should be released.

  552. jason says:

    I guess those who say impeachment is a political, not a legal process are certainly right.

    “But if I understand this correctly, you’re telling us that Tim Morrison told you that Ambassador Sondland told him that the president told Ambassador Sondland that Zelensky would have to open an investigation into Biden?”

    “That’s correct,” Taylor admitted.”

  553. jason says:

    Now I know how Corey determined that Rand Paul is a bad neighbor.

    Evidently, the mailman for the neighborhood heard from a housekeeper on the next block that she heard from the paper boy that the cousin of Rand Paul’s neighbor said the neighbor said Rand Paul let his dog pee six inches into the neighbor’s property.

  554. Pitchaboy says:

    The markets are laughing at this democrat fiasco. They have factored in a Trump triumph next year.

  555. Pitchaboy says:

    Only an economic/ market downturn will stop him. His conversation with other heads of state, while producing orgasms to dems, is looked at as Trumpian bravado by a majority. Nobody will have the guts to remove him especially after Ukraine got their money and some arms to boot.

  556. Wes says:

    You also said Republicans should strategically let Dems hold the Senate in 2010 to maximize their chances of beating Obama in 2012, Pitch. Then you declared Obama was a guaranteed loser in 2012. As of his last post, MD said you’d never paid up on your bet with him.

    I’m not exactly sure your rosy analysis is the most accurate on this blog.

  557. jason says:

    Ten years since the Ft Hood attack.

    That is when Knova left, after ranting that we were al Islamophobes for calling it a terrorist attack.

    “Obama initially called the Fort Hood attack “tragic events” and “violence in the workplace.” Words matter. Obama insistently ignored evidence indicating that violent Islamic dogma spurred Hasan. It took Obama six years — till 2015, well after the 2012 election — to call the massacre a terrorist attack on U.S. soil.”

  558. jason says:

    I think Pitch is right that the markets don’t think Warren will be President.

    In fact, the markets probably do reflect a consensus, that if not certain, at least Trump has a reasonable chance of prevailing.

    But the market consensus has been wrong before.

    In April, Barron’s “Big Money” survey of investor’s indicated a majority thought Trump would win, this is of course before impeachment. Still, Trump’s numbers were not any better then either, and in fact Biden looked like a stronger candidate at the time.

    “Sixty-seven percent of Big Money respondents think Trump will be re-elected in 2020, against 28% who expect a Democrat to win and 5% who picked neither party. Fifty-six percent expect former Vice President Joe Biden to be the Democrats’ nominee; Biden officially announced his candidacy on Thursday. Seven percent see Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders getting the Democrats’ nod.

    The managers’ had a somewhat different view about who should become president: 40% think Trump ought to win; 31% picked the yet-to-be-named Democratic candidate, and 13% favored Starbucks former CEO Howard Schultz, who is mulling an independent run, for the job”

  559. jason says:

    I should have said money managers, not investors.

  560. jason says:

    It is interesting that a portion of the money managers that don’t like Trump still think he will win.

    Money talks.

  561. jason says:

    Nobody will have the guts to remove him especially after Ukraine got their money and some arms to boot.”

    With the current information available, I would predict 0 defections in the Senate. Even scumbag Romney will not support this charade, even if he would like to.

  562. Pitchaboy says:

    Of course Wes conveniently forgets that I was the first guy here to predict Scott Brown victory; send MD my contact info and he never responded and said DJT will carry the election in 2016 early that evening as everybody was writing his obituary. Most people vote their pocket books Wes. And they are a lot fatter now than 2016

  563. pitchaboy says:

    I was a very reluctant Trump voter in 2016. I felt he would be a foreign policy disaster. Turns out, his FP choices are better than all his recent predecessors and he beats them hands down in economic policy. As far as trade goes, the jury is still out but my gut says he will sew up agreements with China and get the NA agreement passed by Congress. What are the dems going to run on: that he brags and boasts to foreign heads of states and therefore does not deserve re-election? Without an economic/market downturn, the dems are burnt toast and that is why they are trying to tarnish him with this drama.

  564. Tina says:

    Well Schiffty released the name of the gossip blower in the transcript.

    What a Russian stooge.

    I believe Schiffty is compromised in many ways.

  565. Pitchaboy says:

    The man loves being with regular folks and they respond. His events are like a rock concert. Biden and Warren events: funerals. For raw political genius he is on a par with Regan and Clinton. His tweets drive me crazy but that is how he goes over the heads of the biased media. But, most of all, he will show up in KY even though he knew it is a likely loss. To the elite, it looks stupid; to his base, that is the reason they love him.

  566. Wes says:

    Actually, Pitch, Hellbelly was the first person to predict Brown would win. Nice job patting yourself on the back with an unearned accolade though.

  567. Wes says:

    Of course those fat pockets haven’t translated into support for Trump even in his internal polling. He couldn’t even get his guy across the finish line first in a state he carried by 30 points against a liberal Dem whose election Trump framed as a vote for impeachment. I’m voting for Trump next year, but I’m under no illusions about the slender likelihood of his victory next year.

  568. jason says:

    Maybe. There has to be a reason he has a 45% approval rating despite the relentless war the MSM has waged on him for 3 years.

    I certainly have supported his war on the partisan, dishonest and fake news MSM, and firmly believe if he not done that his approval would be in the low 30’s.

    That being said, he has made a lot of unforced errors that has prevented him to ever sustain something closer to 50%.

  569. Pitchaboy says:

    If that is so, I apologize Wes. But stop your oft repeated nonsense that I did not pay up for a lost bet. MD can collect it anytime. I need no accolades as I do not purport to be a great historian or political pundit. I just call it as I see it: get it right sometimes. Get it wrong, the rest. Peace

  570. jason says:

    That comment was in response to Pitch, not wes.

  571. Pitchaboy says:

    He will never get to 50 except in RAS. The 45 is who vote for him with enthusiasm. The remaining do so with trepidation. There is a significant minority especially in the financial industry that will profess to hate him but will pull the lever for him as his policy has fattened them up.

  572. Wes says:

    You were also part of the cadre who told me how much more you knew about NC than I and claimed Romney would crush Obama here. I said Romney would win by two only. Well, I was right. At least Howard Dean had the guts to lay $1000 down on it and donate to St. Jude’s.

  573. Pitchaboy says:

    Ok Wes. You are the greatest. Now, get over it.

  574. Wes says:

    No. I’m not the greatest. I’ve had my share of missed calls—saying Hillary would beat Trump for instance—but when people with spotty predictive records start claiming to have superior knowledge of future events I’m willing to question the likelihood of their predictions.

    You can do the same with me if you like. The archives are full of bad predictions I’ve made.

    As for your tete-a-tete with MD, I went only off his own claims. He repeatedly called you out for not honoring your bet. If you actually followed through he never said it on here.

  575. Bitterlaw says:

    It is sad to see Pitch and Wes fight. They both help people. Pitch cures cancer. Wes rubs people. They have a lot in common.

    Pitch is right. MD had his contact info and did not follow up on that bet.

  576. Wes says:

    Well, fair enough, Bitter. That’s not how MD framed it, but if what you say is true then MD should never have claimed Pitch refused to pay up.

  577. Pitchaboy says:

    BL, we are not fighting. I like Wes’ historical analysis. At times, we don’t see eye to eye and that is life. We have a difference in opinion on DJT’s chances and perhaps got a bit emotional about it

  578. Wes says:

    I did come across as snippy with you, Pitch. I apologize for that. All of us have made right and wrong predictions on here. I just think it’s unwise to go into 2020 declaring Trump is a lock for re-election when empirical evidence indicates he’s going to struggle to hit 270 again. I’m not worried about my own state, which Trump will carry by about 49-47, but those narrowly decided industrial and Midwestern states are going to be tough. Republicans have done little but take it on the chin in PA, MI, and WI since Trump took office. That hardly bodes well for his chances at reelection.

  579. jason says:

    Put a gun to my head right now and I give Trump 50% odds of winning.

    But it depends on who he runs against. Against Sanders I think his odds of winning are 90%. 60% against Warren. 40% against Biden.

  580. Pitchaboy says:

    Apology accepted Wes. Trump is much like Obama Wes. He has no great coat tails. His voters come out for him. A chunk of his base does not trust the R establishment candidates. When I voted in 2016, I was no 266. In 2018, no. 21. In 2019, no. 2. My gut tells me he carries PA narrowly unless Biden is the candidate., which he will not be. But, as they say, we live and learn. If this economy and markets holdup, and he loses, it will be his UE as Jason puts it.

  581. Tgca says:

    602. Bitter

    Does Wes rub people the wrong way though? That is the question.

    Maybe not, if you asked the hundreds of guys he enjoys giving massages.

  582. Tina says:

    This seems like where the soviets are going with peach mint.

    That and bogus obstruction, even though the subpoenas are not valid and any dispute would require court intervention.

    Rep. Eric Swalwell: “It’s an abuse of power to remove an ambassador for political reasons because you don’t like what they’re doing.”

  583. Tina says:

    Behar and the view hosts triggered by applause for trump jr

    Behar, “this is not a trump rally.”

  584. dblaikie says:

    For those who still communicate with MD tell him dblaikie says hello.

  585. dblaikie says:

    Respectfully Wes, you are guilty of the same thing only from the other direction. You claimed, perhaps still claim, that Trump is a lock to lose.

  586. Wes says:

    Guilty as charged, DB. I would rather expect a loss based on the evidence I see and be surprised than expect a victory and be disappointed though. If I genuinely thought Trump was on track to win re-election I would tell you.

  587. lisab says:

    I think it is time to stop posting Eric Ciaramella’s name.
    ———————————-

    i posted Eric Ciaramella’s name by accident.

    i will be more careful to not mention the whistleblower’s name, Eric Ciaramella, in the future

  588. Tgca says:

    For those who still communicate with MD tell him TG says GFY you $#@& POS…and give him a big hug from me too.

  589. dblaikie says:

    Well I pay any bets I lose. If Trump doesn’t win I will send that wine he likes. However I am feeling pretty good about getting my bottle of Scotch.

  590. lisab says:

    “It’s an abuse of power to remove an ambassador for political reasons because you don’t like what they’re doing.”
    ———————————-

    actually would not that be the best reason to remove an ambassador?

    sec. of state: mrs. president lisab, the ambassador to the ukraine, Eric Ciaramella, is running naked through kiev waving a ussr flag

    lisab: well … fire Eric Ciaramella

    sec. of state: you cannot just fire Eric Ciaramella because he is doing something you don’t like

  591. jason says:

    It’s an abuse of power to remove an ambassador for political reasons because you don’t like what they’re doing.”

    Ridiculous. Ambassadors are mostly political appointees. Appointed for their partisan activities especially donations. You don’t need any reason to get rid of ambassador, you can hate his tie.

    What is an abuse of power is trying to remove a President because you don’t like what he is doing.

  592. lisab says:

    ‘She’s not fooling anyone.’ Ilhan Omar lives a double life of secret hookups and romantic vacays to Jamaica with her married aide, as they live together ‘on and off’ and even talk of MARRIAGE (once their divorces are finalized)

    DailyMail.com can now disclose that Omar and Mynett are not only dating, but living together ‘on and off’ at a secret DC apartment, while plotting romantic vacations to Jamaica and making plans for a long-term future together.

  593. lisab says:

    i would not hear of any dem scandals if it were not for the daily mail

  594. Phil says:

    I just want to again remind everyone to please quit posting Eric Ciaramella’s name as the whistle blower. Eric Ciaramella deserves his privacy. Eric Ciaramella should not be punished for doing his patriotic duty. So, again, please do not use Eric Ciaramella’s name on future postings.

  595. lisab says:

    they have photos of omar with her bf

    they spent a week watching them

    washington post? nytimes? nada

  596. lisab says:

    also from the daily mail … lol … shatner was born in 1938

    It’s OK to be a boomer!: William Shatner takes ‘entitled’ millennials to task in heated Twitter exchange, calls one a diva and corrects her grammar after she blamed his generation for the ‘hardships’ she faces

    His Twitter row erupted on Wednesday after he had sent a mocking tweet to another user in a separate conversation.

    One user, going by the name of Billie E, responded with the clapback: ‘OK Boomer’.

    ‘Sweetheart, that’s a compliment for me,’ he wrote, triggering a largely supportive response from his followers.

    Billie E defended herself, saying she was ‘not really into pejoratives, but what’s the term for people when they can’t interpret a joke?’.

    Shatner could not resist another dig at that, answering: ‘Millennials?’.

  597. Wes says:

    Shatner was born in 1931.

  598. lisab says:

    oh … not a star trek fan … but he is even more not a boomer

  599. lisab says:

    of course the daily mail also has stories like

    Kylie Jenner’s best friend ‘Stassie Baby’ Anastasia Karanikolaou peels a banana as she poses in yellow bikini after launching her TJ SWIM

  600. lisab says:

    actually … that article is nsfw

  601. Tina says:

    Meadows response to Swallowhole.

    Mark Meadows
    ?
    Verified account

    @RepMarkMeadows
    1h1 hour ago
    More
    Mark Meadows Retweeted The Hill
    This statement inadvertently gives you an inside look at how unserious and utterly baseless the Democrats’ impeachment case against @realDonaldTrump is. They think it’s an “abuse of power” to remove someone who explicitly serves at the pleasure of the President.

  602. NYCmike says:

    Looking at all of the headlines, I may have to watch the View later on.

    DT Jr is a good interview.

  603. Pitchaboy says:

    The raging bull in Wall Street should tear down the Dims.

  604. Tina says:

    The view crew is upset.

    Too much applause for Donald trump, jr.

    Too much booing of the hosts.

    Whoopie and behar melted down,

  605. Tina says:

    Oh and 2 more points on the View

    Behar lied about not doing blackface. There is a pic.

    Whoopie lies about not calling for trumps impeachment on 11/9/16 (days after the election). There is also tape of her doing that.

    Not a good day for the view less

  606. jason says:

    Swallowhole?

    Nobody can compete with Tina on nicknames.

  607. jason says:

    Evidently Trump Jr. got criticized for saying the name which I won’t repeat here, Eric Ciaramella.

    He said well I saw it posted on Drudge, which gets what, a billion hits a day, so I didn’t think it was a secret.

  608. jason says:

    The Stalinists are alive and well, Proud Obamacommunist will be proud of this.

    Schiff says questions can only cover 3 topics.

  609. Tina says:

    Soviet Schiffty has the right to cancel all Republican witnesses.

    This is a sheot show and highly illegal.

  610. jason says:

    Your friend Goober should then call these witnesses and have his own hearing.

  611. jason says:

    Whoopi to Trump Jr.

    “A lot more people know you than they do the Drudge Report”.

    Huh, no.

  612. Tina says:

    Your friend Goober cannot.

    He says he lacks “jurisdiction.”

    Kind of like, it was not in Muleheads purview.

  613. lisab says:

    Evidently Trump Jr. got criticized for saying the name which I won’t repeat here, Eric Ciaramella.
    —————————————–

    who is this Eric Ciaramella?

    and why is it bad to mention Eric Ciaramella?

  614. Wes says:

    Remember the first rule about Eric Ciaramella, Lisa:

    Do not talk about Eric Ciaramella.

  615. Tina says:

    I thought “republicans ran this committee,”

    More
    BREAKING: Democrat Sen. Mark Warner, vice chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, is holding up release of findings of panel’s investigation into allegations of Trump-Russia “collusion.” Report, which had been due for release in Sept, is said to fully exonerate Trump,advisers

  616. lisab says:

    lol … which poster once wrote:

    “People on the right need to stop acting like they are better than the Republican Party and accept that we live in a two party system.”

  617. lisab says:

    roman polanski did not participate in “rape rape” … the view

  618. lisab says:

    “We did photos with me drinking champagne,” Geimer says. “Toward the end it got a little scary, and I realized he had other intentions and I knew I was not where I should be. I just didn’t quite know how to get myself out of there.” In a 2003 interview, she recalled that she began to feel uncomfortable after he asked her to lie down on a bed, and described how she attempted to resist. “I said, ‘No, no. I don’t want to go in there. No, I don’t want to do this. No!’, and then I didn’t know what else to do,” she stated, adding: “We were alone and I didn’t know what else would happen if I made a scene. So I was just scared, and after giving some resistance, I figured well, I guess I’ll get to come home after this”.

    Geimer testified that Polanski provided champagne that they shared as well as part of a quaalude,and despite her protests, he performed oral, vaginal, and anal sex acts upon her, each time after being told ‘no’ and being asked to stop.

  619. lisab says:

    ** CBS ** Allegedly Fires Former ** ABC ** Employee Who Had Access To Amy Robach Video. No Protection Provided to Whistleblower Who Exposed ABC for Corruption.

  620. lisab says:

    i didn’t know cbs had an extradition treaty with abc

  621. Phil says:

    I just wanted to stop by to remind everyone not to refer to the whistle blower as Eric Ciaramella. The whistle blower, Eric Ciaramella deserves to be anonomous.

  622. Waingro says:

    Bloomberg entering the Dem Primary Clown Car. Good grief.

  623. NYCmike says:

    Bloomberg?

    Robbie and “CG” must be ecstatic!

  624. NYCmike says:

    Trump will start carrying around a 64oz Big Gulp with a big Trump straw in honor of Bloomberg.

  625. lisab says:

    bloomberg will divide the biden vote

    but

    will this also trigger hillary?

  626. lisab says:

    bloomber will EASILY carry both coasts, especially above the mason dixon line

  627. lisab says:

    hawaian judge has ruled

    that the government must provide mental health services to thousands of migrant parents and children who experienced psychological harm as a result of the Trump administration’s practice of separating families.

  628. lisab says:

    bloomberg is worried about the warren and sanders wealth tax

  629. Tina says:

    Yes, dumberg is in.

    Jebots are happy.

    They are booking their cruise ship tours with the socialist son to discuss how “brilliant” dumberg is.

  630. lisab says:

    why would the jebots be happy?

    bloomberg likely cannot win the dem nomination

    but he could hurt warren and sanders as well as killing off biden’s run

    if he ran as an indy, then sure, but as a dem i think he helps trump

  631. VictrC says:

    So wait, a nearly octogenarian gun grabbing New York Billionaire is going to appeal to Trump voters in PA, WI and MI?

    So lets look at the top four candidates in the Dem primary

    Sanders, 78
    Bloomberg, 78
    Biden, 77 (and an old 77 at that)
    Warren, 71

    That’s the kind of new blood America is looking for.

  632. Tina says:

    They are hapoy because they did not like the other candidates, unless Hillary gets in. Dumberg is the male version of her Thighness.

  633. lisab says:

    i completely get why they think he could win against trump

    i just don’t think he can win the dem nomination

  634. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    Orangutan granted human status settles into new home…

    I am sure voting rights will be next to be granted.

  635. Messy says:

    Bloomberg’s illegal third term is a dealbreaker.

  636. Tgca says:

    Another NY billionaire entering the race is not going to appeal to the Warren and Sanders voters and to the growing hateful anti-Semitic wing of the Dem party so not sure he could get the Dem nom.

    He’s also not going to appeal to the vast majority of the GOP because of his gimmicks of being a party switcher and taking away guns and running as a NYC lib.

    If he runs as an Indy, he may peel off some indies from both sides but not enough to win me thinks but let’s see how this plays out. I would think he would be more attractive to moderate Dems than moderate GOP so expect the left to go after him as he could hurt their chances the most.

    Is he willing to divest himself of control of his empire and spend potentially hundreds of millions of his own money? It also might trigger some other wanna-be billionaires to enter as indies as well so this could very well become a 3-party circus.

    We shall see how this plays out.

  637. Tgca says:

    Ewww….666!

    My name ain’t Damian!

    I will now Cross myself with my Holy Water.

  638. Messy says:

    …And no person shall be convicted without the concurrence of two thirds of the members present.

    I heard a nifty scenario about the above section of the constitution: The Republicans will stage a walkout, leaving the Democrats and a few “RINOs”who vote to remove Trump without their having to vote for it.

    Ten to one this is what’s going to happen.

  639. Wes says:

    Case in point of how Messy the Moron earned his sobriquet.

  640. Tina says:

    Messy lsd,

    It is,more likely that the senate dismisses it outright.

    Mitchie is po’d, given the Soviet inquisition by Schiffty.

  641. Tina says:

    Sessions is officially in. He praised trump.

    Tucker Carlson

  642. lisab says:

    i think there are a few people here who would take those odds

  643. Tina says:

    Gossip blower was an invited guest to a China Biden dinner.

    Gossip blower and yo-yo beotch appear to be both fixers for China and crack rock,

  644. Cash Cow TM says:

    Eric Ciaramella
    Eric Ciaramella

    I are lilac cream
    a rice camel liar
    air lace miracle
    real CIA miracle
    I, a clear mail cereal
    a real Cali. crime

  645. Tina says:

    This is too funny. The gossip blowers attorney is triggered:

    @Breaking911
    Follow Follow @Breaking911
    More
    BREAKING: Lawyer for Ukraine whistleblower sends White House cease and desist letter to stop Trump’s attacks – CNN
    5:42 PM – 7 Nov 2019

  646. Phil says:

    Twitter is suspending people who name the whistleblower. Another reason not to name Eric Ciaramella as the whistleblower especially on twitter.

  647. NYCmike says:

    https://nationalfile.com/teenage-girl-suspended-from-school-for-refusing-to-wear-pro-lgbt-remembrance-day-item/

    “CG” will ignore, as the media didn’t make this into a white supremacy issue.

  648. NYCmike says:

    Heh!

    Bloomberg slogan will be “Make America One Giant Bike Lane!”.

  649. Wes says:

    First rule about Eric Ciaramella:

    Do not talk about Eric Ciaramella.

  650. Tina says:

    Seems like recalled ambassador yoyobeotch committed perjury on the stand. Let’s see if there is a referral to justice and see if justice asks.

  651. Tina says:

    Justice charges her criminally.

  652. VictrC says:

    Interesting tidbit for all the handwringers:

    “To put the political consequences of the Trump presidency into perspective, since Trump was elected, Rs have lost 329 seats in state legislatures. At the same point in the Obama presidency, Ds lost 768 seats… A little perspective is needed.”

  653. Tina says:

    Sheeple, it’s worse than whatever Roger Stone did. I mean stone is clearly a person who wants to be in the action.

    But, it’s evident that his lie (If he even lied) was not material. It’s also apparent that he testified before congress voluntarily and the record shows some confusion as to what the senate was seeking from him.

    Hers is material. She also leaked her testimony to the compost and appeared with 3 lawyers there. Each lawyer paid $500 plus an hour.

  654. Tina says:

    I a, also very for sessions getting his seat back.
    No problems there. He made a very compelling case, even more compelling last night on Tucker’s program.

  655. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #686- Tina
    Sessions is a very decent man, but it’s time for him to leave the stage and give someone new and younger a chance.

    #685
    Add General Flynn to the list!

  656. jason says:

    Democrats Liken Republican Promise to Subpoena the Bidens to ‘Rolling a Grenade Down This Aisle'”

    Well, yeah, so?

  657. jason says:

    Where is Proud Obamacommunist?

    Let’s see if he trusts Bloomberg as a Dem.

  658. jason says:

    Mark Halperin’s New Anti-Trump Book Barely Sells 500 Copies.”

    I am posting this for Corey and Amoral Scumbag so Mark can get to 502.

  659. jason says:

    Sessions is a weak and spineless man who put us through 3 years of the Mueller BS unnecessarily.

    But he fits in with the Senate, where there are other plenty of weak and spineless people.

    If I lived in AL, I would only vote for him if it was to keep Roy Moore from making the run-off.

  660. jason says:

    I do give Sessions credit for endorsing Trump early in the campaign. At the time I thought he was nuts, and probably skewered him here for it. Evidently he saw the potential in Trump way before 99% of other elected Rs did.

  661. jason says:

    Stone seems like he is one FF short of a Happy Meal. He practically begged to be indicted.

    But as we saw from the Mueller Report, he really didn’t have any role or influence, as Tina says, he just wanted to be “part of the action”.

  662. jason says:

    Drudge still regurgitating MSM headlines. No balance whatsoever. Of course the first thing a socialist President will do is to try to put further restrictions on conservative media.

  663. Phil says:

    I have absolutely no idea what happened to Drudge. I used to go there three or four times a day. No more. It’s not because I don’t like his new point of view. He’s free to go full moonbat which he obviously has. It’s just that I don’t need his links to all the anti Trump MSM sites. They are all over the air. If I wanted to read the NYT I would go there.

    Again, it’s a mystery as to the transformation of the Drudge Report.

  664. Tina says:

    Pierre Detestable is prompting some climate change hoax bill. I am not worried about sessions going rino like quittens.

  665. Joe J says:

    If you’re a Trump supporter like myself, you should be absolutely rejoicing about Bloomberg jumping in. It shows several things, 1st, it confirms how weak Biden is of a candidate and siphons the most votes from him by far. 2nd, Warren has another billionaire to run against and she probably firms her support and potentially increases her standing. Her 20% or so now will look more formidable when Biden drops into the low 20s or even below depending on the state. 3rd, does Bloomberg decide to go 3rd party eventually pending the verbal lashing he’s about the get at the next debate (if he qualifies)?

    Overall, there’s no coherency in the Dem field right now. They have a few months to figure it out and consolidate but the division in their party has only gotten deeper with Mike jumping in.

  666. Phil says:

    Yeah, Bloomberg getting in hurts Biden in the Democratic Primary. Just splits the Democrats who would go Biden out of fear of electability of Warren and Sanders. He has money and Biden doesn’t.

  667. Bitterlaw says:

    Sessions was a potential witness/target of the probe. If had shut the investigation down, Dems could scream that Trump had something to hide. Instead, after 3 years of the investigation it was obvious he had nothing to hide.

    Sessions was right to recuse himself. Suck it.

  668. janz says:

    I concur with Phil’s remarks about Drudge. His blog used to be my first “go to” in the morning, as it gave me a general flavor of what was the reigning news of the day. However, for the past several months I have entirely skipped Drudge. It’s turned into an “Inquirer” type of rag, hyped with negative drama directed at the current administration. There is so much of that in the media already. So, who needs to add the Drudge Report!

  669. Bitterlaw says:

    DCC

  670. Robbie says:

    Manu Raju
    @mkraju

    Trump tells reporters this morning that he’s considering visiting Russia in May. Putin invited him to the May Day parade; Trump is thinking about going

    – Jason fraud- “May Day is the greatest parade ever. I am proud to support a president who has the courage to attend a Soviet era military parade that celebrates communism. Only cucks have a problem with this.”

  671. jason says:

    LOL

    “Soviet era military parade that celebrates communism”

    Poor Amoral Scumbag is really unhinged. The Soviet Union ended in 1989 and Russia hasn’t been communist since then.

    Of course, Amoral Scumbag never had a problem when his hero Obama went to Cuba to kiss Castro’s ass, now there was actually a murderous communist regime.

  672. jason says:

    Maybe Schiff can impeach Trump for attending a May Day parade.

    I am sure Amoral Scumbag will be all for it, considering the present cheap little coup attempt is going to fail.

  673. jason says:

    Corey said “Trump was a friend of ISIS” for pulling troops from Syria.

    Now Amoral Scumbag is going to make Trump into a Marxist too.

    The Never Trumpers have gone completely batsh-t nuts.

  674. Messy says:

    681. the daily wire is full of fake news.

  675. jason says:

    Sessions was a potential witness/target of the probe. If had shut the investigation down, Dems could scream that Trump had something to hide.”

    Garbage.

    Nobody said anything about shutting down the investigation.

    What was unnecessary, and would not have happened had Sessions not stupidly caved in to “Democrats screaming”, was the appointment of a special prosecutor.

    There was zero reason for Sessions to recuse himself, the “conversation with Russian ambassador” (and a lot of other ambassadors) was certainly no reason. And Sessions was never the “target” of any probe.

    GFY.

  676. jason says:

    Messy decrying fake news is like Hitler decrying genocide.

    The hypocrisy is astounding.

  677. Phil says:

    I see the MSM finally found a whistleblower it doesn’t like.

    ABC: That guy you hired made us look bad
    CBS: Yeah, we know. We fired his ass.

  678. Bitterlaw says:

    If Obama went to a May Day parade in Russia, HHR would have howled. Robbie is still suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Both can be true.

  679. pitchaboy says:

    Politico/MC poll: 56% expect DJT to be re-elected. 85% of R, 51% of I and 35%(!) of D. Keep the impeachment going boys.

  680. jason says:

    If Obama went to a May Day parade in Russia, HHR would have howled.”

    Not me. I would have had zero problem with the trip or attending the parade, but probably a lot of problems with what Obama said there, which is different.

    Nixon went to Mao’s China and was considered a great statesman. Nobody thought he was a Commuist.

    The idea that by attending a May Day parade in Moscow means Trump is somehow endorsing a system Russia abandoned in 1989 is ridiculous.

  681. Wobbles says:

    Obama showed great statesmanship going to Cuba and groveling before Fidel Castro.

    If Trump goes to Russia, it means he is a diehard Marxist, disciple of Lenin and Stalin. And Trotsky.

  682. lisab says:

    there is a victory day parade every year in moscow

    which commemorates the fall of berlin and the defeat of the nazis

    but i guess robbie is against that

  683. lisab says:

    the “may day” or international workers’ day parades that were on may 1st, ended 30 years ago

  684. jason says:

    “Soviet era military parade that celebrates communism”

    You really have to be completely deranged to write something that stupid.

    https://www.telesurenglish.net/multimedia/Russia-Celebrates-Victory-Day-Defeat-of-Nazis-at-WW2-20190509-0011.html

  685. NYCmike says:

    “Well, yeah, so?”

    -I love it when an A-Hole is straight and to the point!

  686. NYCmike says:

    Robbie couldn’t post a story about the stock market going down, so he found the May Day parade link instead.

  687. jason says:

    I think this sums it up:

    “The Democrats have decided not so much that Trump committed a crime as that he is a crime; his very existence is criminal”

  688. Tina says:

    I cannot keep up with the jebots.

    They want the president to meet with the ukranian pm. When he refuses they want to impeach him.

    When he wants to meet with poor poot they say he should not and it’s impeachable.

    Their foreign policy is strange.

  689. Tina says:

    Breaking.

    Congressman @Jim_Jordan has been moved to the House Intelligence Committee, the panel that will conduct initial impeachment inquiry in public hearings.

  690. Tina says:

    Kash is King.

  691. NYCmike says:

    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2019/11/08/virginias-democratic-government-announced-will-begin-confiscating-guns-law-abiding-gun-owners/

    -Oftentimes, a good housecleaning allows the owners (Virginia residents) to see all the crap they have up in the attic (Democratic heads).

    Is the problem not enough Republican voters in VA?

    Or is the problem that there is disunity in the Republican Party of VA?

    Time will tell.

  692. NYCmike says:

    https://arstechnica.com/science/2019/11/the-white-house-puts-a-price-on-the-sls-rocket-and-its-a-lot/

    -Congress wants the overpriced SLS.

    White House, with a “free spending, liberal Democrat” Trump at the helm, wants the cheaper commercial options used.

    Odd how the labels don’t apply so often……..

  693. NYCmike says:

    What information does Senator Warner have on Senator Burr?

    I am sure Burr, coming from the great, incorruptible state where Wes resides, doesn’t have any skeletons to hide………..like a Sen Menendez…….

  694. jason says:

    I love it when an A-Hole is straight and to the point!”

    Sounds like you are confused and like something else.

  695. NYCmike says:

    Heh!

    I guess I need to preview my comments a little better! Yikes!

  696. jason says:

    The problem with Burr is that he goes to a gunfight armed with a pocket knife.

  697. Victrc says:

    Where is everyone

  698. jason says:

    I am always here, even when I am in Amoral Scumbag’s head.

  699. jason says:

    Only 5 1/2 hours to breakfast. Tomorrow is Saturday, which means scrapple, slab bacon, sausage AND corned beef hash, most days I only get 2 out 4. I get high cholesterol special dispensation on Saturdays.

  700. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason is remarkably healthy since he cut back on guinea pig and apple butter.

  701. jason says:

    Cuy is delicious.

  702. Victrc says:

    Lol. That’s one heck of a breakfast.

  703. Bitterlaw says:

    Lol. That’s one heck of a breakfast.

    Or an autopsy report.

  704. jason says:

    Well, that wasn’t the whole breakfast. Had a 3 egg mushroom (got to have veggies), bacon and cheese omelet also. But because I am on a low carb diet, only 2 biscuits. And coffee.

  705. jason says:

    Now that picture made me hungry for lunch. No cuys available but I am working on a whole pork shoulder, slow cooked in beer. Goes well with some Amish sauerkraut braised in bacon fat and a baked potato loaded with butter, sour cream, cheese and real bacon bits. I know, potatoes have carbs, but it is Saturday.

  706. jason says:

    Or an autopsy report.”

    Probably. I can’t get my cholesterol down even with a statin.

    In the Army whenever someone hesitated on doing something dangerous, some a-hole would always yell “whats the matter, you bastards want to live forever?”. At the time, I used to think, well, yeah.

    Now not so much.

  707. mnw says:

    NYCMike

    Astonishing that the Isles won 10 in a row… & that’s good for second place in their division.

  708. NYCmike says:

    Glad it’s over, mnw.

    Too early in the season for such a streak.

    Let’s get back to basics…..I’ll take 6 out of 10 games any day of the week…….and then get hot at playoff time.

  709. jason says:

    Should we paint a mural of Trump like this one on the side of the HHR clubhouse?”

    There is already a proposal for a mural depicting grazing llamas, but maybe for the building expansion.

  710. NYCmike says:

    Capitals are playing well.

    Ovechkin is superb!

    The video with them and the Washington Nationals was great!

  711. jason says:

    WTF is an “Isle”?

  712. NYCmike says:

    “WTF is an “Isle”?”

    -My apologies to Bitterlaw, but your fellow A-Hole deserves an answer

    https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xtq1o9

    *Amazing how much slower the game was 40 years ago. Athletes today are ridiculous.

  713. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    Agreed.

    ““The support we’re getting from the African American community has been overwhelming,” Trump told the crowd, which included supporters wearing red “BLACK LIVES MAGA” hats.”

  714. NYCmike says:

    Last but not least:

    “Epstein didn’t kill himself.”

  715. John says:

    This whole ‘impeachment inquiry’ process is starting to resemble a ‘pissing’ contest or perhaps a ‘he said/she said’ divorce drama.
    I’m thinking that the Dems, contrary to their public statements, will try to drag this inquiry well into 2020 but as the general election approaches stop short of an impeachment vote because they won’t have the votes but instead will vote for a ‘censure’ just before November 3, 2020.

  716. jason says:

    Evidently Trump met with 200 (another 200 could not get in) black entrepreneurs small business owners for the Black Voices Coalition who are going to try to divulge the fact black unemployment has dropped to historic lows and the enterprise zones established in black areas have received over $100 billion.

    These black small business owners are smarter than Paul, albeit a low bar.

  717. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    “Monkeys share human bed, wear clothes and live in house like married couple…”

  718. jason says:

    AOC in IA to support Bernie Sanders…”we have to stitch ourselves together”.

    “So here’s the deal. I, you know, and what it also — and so the deal is — sorry. And here’s the deal. The deal — I’m like, I got so much going on in my mind because I’m just talking to you all this evening,” she said, clearly struggling for words.

    “I was, like, trying to prepare some remarks on the plans, I was like, I’m just going to talk to them, okay,” she said, clearly referencing Sanders’ various controversial plans, like his newly-released immigration plan.

    “And so here’s the deal: is that we have to stitch ourselves together,” AOC explained. “We have to connect ourselves to one another. I came here today from the Bronx and the thing is is that our destinies are tied and there’s so many folks that want to say what do Iowans believe, what do New Yorkers believe, what do — “

  719. Cash Cow TM says:

    This afternoon, I am getting ready to sit on the deck and watch Walt finish building a long-assed flower bed, and moving the rest of the dirt from the previously existing flower bed.

    I am glad Mrs. Walt does not use that long whip on me….but she knows I would have the SPCA down on her in a hearbeat.

  720. lisab says:

    Eric Ciaramella did not kill Epstein

  721. jason says:

    Walt helped Hercules clean out King Augeas’ stables, so the long assed flower beds will be a piece of cake.

  722. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – While searching for the real killer of Ron and Nicole, OJ discovered that the real killer of Epstein was…Epstein.

  723. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag is still searching for Jeb’s real killer. Hint, read Bitter’s post.

  724. Bitterlaw says:

    Epstein killed JEB!’s campaign?

  725. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag is going to to have an orgasm.

    His heroine and go to source when he was was all about Alzheimergate, the psychologist who diagnosed Trump without ever meeting him, is volunteering to testify for Schiff at the impeachment hearings.

  726. jason says:

    Three rings are not going to be enough for the circus, they are going to need more.

  727. jason says:

    “Lee and her group of experts, which she calls the “Independent Expert Panel for Presidential Fitness,” would like to appear at next week’s impeachment inquiry hearings. She told the Examiner’s Kimberly Leonard, “We think that hearing about mental health aspects in the context of the impeachment hearings is critical, partly because, for the past 2.5 years we have been very deeply concerned about mental instability of the president, and pretty much all that we have said has born out to be true.”

    Leonard asked her about the fact that neither she nor her fellow “experts” have every met Trump, and Lee assured her “there is enough information from the president’s public appearances, tweets, interviews, and also from special counsel Robert Mueller’s 448-page report, to make the determination that the president lacks the mental capacity to fulfill the duties of his office…There is very little that a personal examination will add.”

  728. jason says:

    Epstein killed JEB!’s campaign?”

    Epstein killed Epstein.

    Jeb killed…..

  729. Phil says:

    Are you serious, Jason, about Kimberly Leonard possibly testifying? These people are truly insane. Please Please have her testify! The Never Trumpers and Democrats are making complete fools out of themselves.

  730. Phil says:

    Looks desperate.

  731. Tina says:

    Maybe Porn Lawyah can testify too.

  732. Phil says:

    I meant Lee.

  733. Phil says:

    ..and all the late night hosts can testify as well.

  734. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    772. Robbie and Messy need to testify also.

  735. Phil says:

    ….and Corey. He can point out all Trump’s moral and ethical shortcomings…plus the fact that Trump’s whiteness makes him racist.

  736. Tina says:

    LC Vindman actually helps trump in the Soviet hearing.

    Remember when the drats, accused trump of hiding the transcript in a secret system?

    Vindman says this is common and not a concern.

    Vindman also claims to be the “sole Ukrainian expert.” He incorrectly states that javelin missiles were given to the Ukrainians by the obumbler. The Obumbler refused to provide them.

  737. Tina says:

    inned Tweet

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    Adam Schiff now has more failed hoaxes than Jussie Smollett.
    620 replies 10,645 retweets 34,149 likes

  738. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag hardest hit. Not that he would ever vote for her anyway.

    excerpt of a @CBSSunday interview to air tonight on @CBSEveningNews, former UN Amb @NikkiHaley ridicules notion of impeaching Pres Trump. “On what? You’re going to impeach a president for asking for a favor that didn’t happen and – and giving money and it wasn’t withheld?”

  739. Phil says:

    I thought Nikki Haley was the kind of Republican Robbie could get behind (assuming there is one of those that actually exists). I guess this for sure bounces Haley off his list.

  740. Tina says:

    In Soviet Schifftys inquisition, hearsay is allowed. Just look at this example from Taylors opening statement, who was well destroyed by the Rs:

    Morrison told Taylor that Sondland told Morrison that POTUS told Sondland, etc

  741. jason says:

    I thought Nikki Haley was the kind of Republican Robbie”

    Well, there is Mitt Romney, the last elected R supporting impeachment.

    You know, the one Amoral Scumbag spent 2 years attacking and lying about his record, his family, his honor, his horse and his dog and then celebrated his loss to Obama. Yeah, that Romney.

    Amoral Scumbag will certainly support him (unless, of course, he actually got nominated).

  742. jason says:

    and Corey. He can point out all Trump’s moral and ethical shortcomings…plus the fact that Trump’s whiteness makes him racist.”

    Actually, we need to be careful here.

    Corey has information on Trump that nobody else does, so he could be very dangerous.

    He will out Trump as a “friend of ISIS”. He will say the fact Trump expelled ISIS from 99% of the territory they once held while killing thousands of members and most of their leaders is a red herring to cover up the truth…he is actually a “friend”.

  743. Tina says:

    Looks like credic, a witness for the Gubment, May have helped Stone:

    https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/09/randy-credico-roger-stone-dog/

  744. jason says:

    The Dems poker hand…

    “We will fold on Russia, but raise you on the Ukraine”.

  745. jason says:

    Why Hillary lost?

    Credico testified that he knew Stone to be a “dog lover,” which counters prosecutors’ allegations that Stone threatened to steal Credico’s dog, Bianca.”

  746. Tina says:

    If stone lie, was it a material lie to the “investigstion?”

    His interview with the congress was voluntary.

    Unlike others, he was given no chance to correct his testimony.

    Question at the center of his lying charges dealt with Muh Russian not Wikileaks

  747. Tina says:

    He could be the jebots replacement for the porn lawyah:

    Mark S. Zaid
    ?
    Verified account

    @MarkSZaidEsq
    Follow Follow @MarkSZaidEsq
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    Replying to @McAdooGordon @parrostroika and 2 others
    I’ve gotten clearances for guys who had child porn issues
    8:02 PM – 10 Feb 2018

  748. Tina says:

    Breaking

    LlC Khrushchev advised Ukrainians that the presidents policy was wrong and to ignore it. I did not realize that Khrushchev was elected President:

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/11/huge-schiff-witness-vindham-testified-that-he-thought-presidents-policy-was-wrong-so-he-advised-ukrainians-to-ignore-the-president/

  749. Wes says:

    I just wanted to remind everyone of the first rule about Eric Ciaramella:

    Do not talk about Eric Ciaramella.

    Thank you.

  750. jason says:

    If wes says don’t mention Eric Ciaramella who am I to mention Eric Ciaramella.

  751. jason says:

    Ratcliff really nailed Vindaman there.

    It’s pretty clear that Vindaman is merely disagreeing with President’s policy and even he cannot come up with anything illegal or impeachable.

  752. jason says:

    They are showing Giants vs. Jets here.

    I would rather watch Hillary’s stump speech from 2016.

  753. jason says:

    Trump gets thunderous standing ovation at Alabama/LSU game.

    Corey to say they are all white supremacists in 3,2, 1….

  754. Bitterlaw says:

    GFY, Jason. The Jets and Giants are fighting with the Dolphins and Bengals for the number 1 draft pick.

  755. lisab says:

    “So here’s the deal. I, you know, and what it also — and so the deal is — sorry. And here’s the deal. The deal — I’m like, I got so much going on in my mind because I’m just talking to you all this evening,” she said, clearly struggling for words.

    “I was, like, trying to prepare some remarks on the plans, I was like, I’m just going to talk to them, okay,” she said, clearly referencing Sanders’ various controversial plans, like his newly-released immigration plan.

    “And so here’s the deal: is that we have to stitch ourselves together,” AOC explained. “We have to connect ourselves to one another. I came here today from the Bronx and the thing is is that our destinies are tied and there’s so many folks that want to say what do Iowans believe, what do New Yorkers believe, what do — “

  756. lisab says:

    Nikki Haley says former Trump aides John Kelly and Tillerson tried to recruit her to ‘save the country’ by undermining Trump. She Refused to undermine Trump

  757. lisab says:

    ‘Black trans and cis women, gender-nonconforming, and nonbinary people are the backbone of our democracy’

    ———————

    go big or go home

  758. jason says:

    GFY, Jason. The Jets and Giants are fighting with the Dolphins and Bengals for the number 1 draft pick.”

    Yes, but I want the Broncos to have the number 1 draft pick.

  759. Wobbles says:

    She Refused to undermine Trump”

    Can you send me Weld’s resume again?

  760. jason says:

    Yeah, lisab, that quote did not improve since I posted it above.

    The woman is a dingbat.

  761. jason says:

    The Jets vs. Giants game should be subject to mercy cancellation.

  762. lisab says:

    russia and ukraine are opening an investigation to see if the democrats have any connection to the united states

  763. lisab says:

    Rebecca Traister, writer at large for New Yorker Magazine, shared her feelings on being confident about a Clinton victory and how she subsequently felt “so alone” when it was apparent that Clinton would lose. She also observed Clinton supporters throwing up and crying on the floor, according to Esquire, which recounted the progression of her thoughts throughout the night.

    They were serving, like, $12 pulled pork sandwiches [at the Javits Center]. It was nuts, people were bouncing off the walls. Everyone genuinely believed she was going to win. I don’t know if it made me feel more confident or not.

    I felt so alone, I knew it was done. I was by myself on the floor. I started to cry.

    I was thinking everything from, “I’m gonna have to rewrite my piece” to, “Can we stay in the U.S.?” I texted my husband, “Tell Rosie to go to bed. I don’t want her to watch.”

    People were throwing up. People were on the floor crying.

    In the cab home, the cabbie had on the news, that’s when I heard his acceptance speech, and I said, “Can you turn it off?” I couldn’t hear his voice. I was like, “I can’t listen to his voice for the next four years.”

    I got back to Park Slope, I went to check on the girls. When I went to say goodnight, I looked at Rosie, and I had this conscious thought that this is the day that will divide our experience of what is possible. This is the day where a limitation is reinforced for her.

  764. lisab says:

    Jelani [Cobb] and I spoke around midnight. We were both, let’s put it this way, in the New Yorker mode of radical understatement, disappointed. Jelani’s disappointment extended to his wondering whether he should actually leave the country. He wasn’t kidding around. I could tell that from his voice.

    We agreed that night, and we agree today, that the Trump presidency is an emergency. And in an emergency, you’ve got a purpose, a job to do, and ours is to put pressure on power. That’s always the highest calling of journalism, but never more so than when power is a constant threat to the country and in radical opposition to its values and its highest sense of itself.

  765. Tina says:

    Senator Kennedy, LouIsiana

    More
    (Pelosi & Schiff’s)decision to “prevent the Republicans from calling their own witnesses in the live testimony” of the #impeachment probe is “just doubling down on stupid.”
    “I get it….they’re going to give the President a fair & impartial firing squad”

  766. Tina says:

    Adios Khrushchev.

    Alex Salvi
    @alexsalvinews
    · 15m
    #NEW: NSA Robert O’Brien says Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a top witness in the House impeachment inquiry, will be removed from his post at the White House National Security Council.

  767. Tina says:

    Salvis tweet is not correct. Disregard.

  768. Tina says:

    That Michael Caputo ????
    @MichaelRCaputo
    ·
    3h
    Replying to
    @ChuckRossDC
    and
    @Isikoff
    As Credico blew up this bogus charge (“I never felt threatened… Roger loves all dogs”) I watched closely prosecutor, Mueller investigator and assistant US Attorney Aaron Zelinsky. He closed his eyes; he pursed his lips; his cheeks flushed. His face fell like a cake.