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Edwards Leads Rispone By 2% in LA, Buttigieg Leads Dems in IA

We have new poll for the gubernatorial race in Louisiana that shows Democrat John Bel Edwards hanging on to a 25 lead over Republican Eddie Rispone as Republicans try to avoid losing a second gubernatorial race this year. This poll comes from Mason-Dixon.

GOVERNOR – LOUISIANA (Mason-Dixon)
John Bel Edwards (D-inc) 48%
Eddie Rispone (R) 46%

This poll was done November 5-7 among 625 likely voters. Here is a listing of all the public polls I am aware of for this race.

Meanwhile in Iowa, a new poll from Monmouth University has Pete Buttigieg leading the Democratic field with Joe Biden in second.

PRESIDENT – IOWA – DEM CAUCUS (Monmouth)
Pete Buttigieg 22%
Joe Biden 19%
Elizabeth Warren 18%
Bernie Sanders 13%
Amy Klobuchar 5%
Kamala Harris 3%
Tom Steyer 3%
Andrew Yang 3%
Cory Booker 2%
Tulsi Gabbard 2%
Everyone Else 1% or Less

This poll was done November 7-11 among 966 likely caucus goers.

Posted by Dave at 5:04 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (135)

135 Responses to “Edwards Leads Rispone By 2% in LA, Buttigieg Leads Dems in IA”

  1. Bitterlaw says:

    Second place is first loser and I own it, bitches. Own it!

  2. Tgca says:

    Tres Bebe! Tres!

  3. jason says:

    Quatro, cabrones.

  4. jason says:

    Edwards is in big trouble.

  5. Tina says:

    Looks like Warner and Burr are doing the Potomac 2 step.

    Peach ent hearings 6/8 weeks, dec thru feb.

    While goober does Pawn Hannity.

  6. lisab says:

    seems like corey will vote against trump

  7. Phil says:

    shocking

  8. lisab says:

    and … he thinks we don’t like or respect him

  9. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    She’s back!!! The pressure is enormous. The trolls are crying tears of joy.

    “On Tuesday, Clinton told a BBC interviewer that she was under “enormous pressure” from supporters to jump into the race for the party’s nomination, and declined to rule out the possibility when pressed. Still, Clinton said, “As of this moment…that is absolutely not in my plans.””

  10. Tina says:

    Also, look for the “repubblicrats” in the senate to insist on a secret ballot.

    Prepared for the Rs to get rolled like usual.

  11. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here it is. Hillary’s announcement:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-42jNCcLY4

  12. NYCmike says:

    “Also, look for the “repubblicrats” in the senate to insist on a secret ballot.”

    -Pretty sure Rand Paul would be against this…….does that mean jason is FOR it?

  13. Phil says:

    Yes Hillary. ENORMOUS pressure to see you on the ballot again. Absolutely ENORMOUS.

    Pathetic. She doesn’t even believe this drivel and yet she somehow expects the rest of us to.

  14. Phil says:

    If there is one thing I’m sure of it’s that there won’t be a single Republican vote in the Senate to have a secret ballot.

    Romney and Mirkowski are slithering snakes, but they aren’t suicidal politically. It’s the ultimate Never Trumper wet dream but the Ana Navarro’s and Joe Scarborough’s of the world will have to be content with their fantasies.

  15. lisab says:

    She’s on board! Nikki Haley says US must ‘get to the bottom’ of Joe Biden, Hunter Biden allegations

  16. Phil says:

    Well, it’s a good bet Nikki isn’t Robbie’s golden girl any longer. Another Republican on Robbie’s rather extensive list of Republicans he could never support.

  17. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Haley is lining herself up as a possible future Republican presidential candidate. If Pence were to decide not to run again as the VP nominee in 2020, then could see Haley replacing him.

  18. Victrc says:

    The irony is that a Republican could be the first female President, the first Asian American President and the first woman of color President.

    Yalk about blowing Liberals mind

  19. John says:

    Huge early voting for Louisiana governorship…according to JMC Analytics Edwards leads Rispone 50-46%…hence the reason Trump is having a huge rally Thursday night at the CenturyLink Arena (14,000) and expecting 40,000.
    Will see if Trump can pull a rabbit out of his hat for Rispone…
    https://winwithjmc.com/archives/8835

  20. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Rumor is that reality finally hit Senator Romney with a thump. His recent polling is awful:

    “The Utah Republican is looked at positively by just 18% of Americans, according to an NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released on Sunday. His favorability has dropped from 43% since October 2012, prior to losing his presidential bid to then-President Barack Obama.
    Romney is viewed very positively by 2% of Americans, somewhat positively by 16%, neutrally by 37%, somewhat negatively by 19%, and very negatively by 19%, according to the poll.”

    Supposedly Romney now realizes he needs to be a more loyal Republican and focus on taking on the Democrats. Here are some of his latest tweets:

    @MittRomney
    While Warren and Sanders push Medicare for All, they apparently haven’t noticed that Medicare for Some is about to go bankrupt. Instead of fairy tale proposals, we should take bipartisan steps toward making sure current programs are around for the long-haul.

    @MittRomney
    Prof. Warren’s Medicare for All fails the test: Countries with socialized medicine make their numbers work through limits on care, cost sharing, and higher middle class taxes. Pretending otherwise is inauthentic and disingenuous.

    I doubt he would vote for impeachment,

  21. jason says:

    Just like my prediction that no R would vote for the impeachment resolution and none will vote for impeachment in the House, I predict no R will vote for it in the Senate either.

    Not even Romney, who will still be a scumbag.

  22. jason says:

    Hello? I am sympathetic to the Dreamers, but before Obama invented DACA, were their lives “destroyed”?

    “Some liberal justices seemed to endorse Trump’s authority to end the program, but said he needed to embrace the consequences, rather than pawning them off on a disputed legal memo from Attorney General Jeff Sessions that concluded DACA was both illegal and unconstitutional.

    “Where’s the political decision that was made that this not about the law, but about our choice to destroy lives?” Justice Sonia Sotomayor asked.”

  23. jason says:

    If the Dems really cared about the Dreamers they would trade their right to stay for the wall.

    But they won’t. They want open borders or nothing.

  24. jason says:

    Romney is viewed very positively by 2% of Americans, somewhat positively by 16%, neutrally by 37%, somewhat negatively by 19%, and very negatively by 19%, according to the poll.”

    You don’t make yourself more popular by selling out to the MSM, you just make yourself (fleetingly, in Romney’s case) more popular with the MSM.

    The guy was the R nominee in 2012, now is viewed very favorably by 2% of Americans? He has only himself to blame.

  25. Phil says:

    I’ve maintained all along there won’t be a single Republican Senator who votes to convict. Democrats on the other hand will lose a minimum of two votes – Manchin (Trump carried WV by 42 pts.) and Jones of Alabama won’t vote to convict either. He would go from decided underdog to dead man walking in November. Also the D Senator from Arizona is no sure bet or even Tester from Montana. Even with those two votes the number of guilty votes has an absolute ceiling of 45 votes to convict – not exactly impressive.

    It is very possible Pelosi shifts gears just after Thanksgiving and drops impeachment for censure. A straight party line vote in the House gets her nowhere. She knows it. Why put her members from Trump districts in that kind of bind for nothing?She also knows that Democrats don’t control the process in the Senate trial. Unlike the House, Republicans will subpoena their own witnesses and be able to cross examine. Could get very ugly for Democrats – – especially with the IG report released and hovering in the background.

  26. Bitterlaw says:

    I was not polled but place me very solidly in the 2% who view Romney very favorably. Suck it.

  27. Phil says:

    I might add that the current idea being floated of a secret ballot to convict in the Senate just confirms the absolute desperation of the Never Trumpers.

  28. Phil says:

    Good, bitter. It would appear Mitt could use all the support he can get.

  29. NYCmike says:

    So far, the Trump administration has been the most transparent since…….1801?

    Wes, what do you say?

  30. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – How is your wife doing? How are you doing?

  31. Phil says:

    Doing ok, bitter. My wife is still in remission but somewhat weaker these days – results of all the chemo and all the radiation treatments she has been through. It has just taken a physical toll over these last years. Never complains a bit, however. She’s a really a tough one. The loss of eyesight is by far the worst of the health problems. We soldier on and are thankful for every good day. I appreciate you keeping tabs.

  32. lisab says:

    Phil,

    i am sorry your wife is sick. i wish you both well.

    out of curiosity, has she tried cannabis for her chemo? i ask not because i support that drug, actually i am against it in almost all cases …

    but chemo would be one of those exceptions

  33. lisab says:

    corey will NOT like this …

    Nikki Haley: We need to look into President Obama’s role in the Russia situation

  34. lisab says:

    Trump gets standing ovation at Orthodox Jewish fundraiser in NYC

    Worst. Hitler. Ever.

  35. lisab says:

    EPSTEIN MEDICAL EXAMINER DROPS AUTOPSY BOMBSHELL; No DNA Test Conducted to Confirm Epstein’s Identity!

  36. Phil says:

    Lisa, no, she actually tolerated the chemo relatively well. They have come so far with medication for pain and nausea. Still had some rough days. Infections were our biggest side effect. Mainly, we have had problems with the long term effects of the treatments – fatigue mostly. We’re very lucky to have been so close to MD Anderson Hospital in Houston. They are pretty cutting edge.

  37. lisab says:

    that is good to hear.

    i really distrust cannabis, but i have heard it has helped some with nausea and pain

  38. Wes says:

    In unrelated news, Mikey and Julian mourn the failure to even attempt the Mikey Maneuver in Arkansas.

    On the bright side for them, Deadenders are going all in on trying to help Dems win in AZ and NC.

  39. Bitterlaw says:

    If science supports the safe use of medicinal marijuana, I am fine with it. Of course, science also supported the safe use of opioids and that worked out well. Except for creating a bunch of addicts.

  40. Messy says:

    27. Why do you say that? The “preliminary hearing” phase of the impeachment hasn’t started yet and the witnesses are going to have to testify two more times: ONce now and once during the Senate Trial. It’s possible that they could convince even Tina.

    Are any of you going to watch the first hour when the two are testifying in a nonpartisan way?

  41. Big Joe says:

    Fascinating Iowa poll which follows up nicely on the Q poll that I posted about yesterday. What makes this even more crazy is Bernie sitting at 13%. If he’s truly anywhere near 15%, it means he is NOT VIABLE and his voters will have to support another candidate.

    Warren stands to benefit here big time.

    Big Joe

  42. Wes says:

    Deval Patrick May enter the race, Big Joe. That would limit the chances Warren benefits from Sanders’ diminution of support.

  43. Phil says:

    And the clownshow/circus begins…..

  44. Big Joe says:

    #25 Jason-
    DACA for the wall is a perfectly reasonable trade to me.

    Big Joe

  45. Big Joe says:

    #45 Wes-
    True, Patrick may run, Hillary might, my run ..

    It’s tricky enough to analyze Iowa with the announced candidates. But trying to factor in any potential future candidates would be near impossible.

    I’ll have to stick with the announced candidates. I also don’t think anyone new will run (including Bloomberg). It’s simply too late.

    Big Joe

  46. Paul says:

    24: Before DACA, their lives were not destroyed. But in order to be a part of DACA, they needed to make themselves and their families known to the authorities. So ending DACA puts them in a more difficult position than before DACA ever existed.

    47: I disagree with Big Joe.

  47. jason says:

    Are any of you going to watch the first hour when the two are testifying in a nonpartisan way?”

    LOL

    There is more chance of watching pigs fly than “testifying” in a non-partisan way.

    And btw, the witnesses in the Senate won’t necessarily be the same as in the House.

    Bet on it.

  48. Paul says:

    47: I think the wall is a waste of a lot of money that only causes environmental destruction and isn’t effective. I would trade DACA for border security (wall in some places, and electronic surveillance and manned surveillance elsewhere).

  49. jason says:

    The proceedings are being run by Stalinist Schiff.

    Non-partisan is hilarious.

  50. jason says:

    I would trade DACA for border security (wall in some places, and electronic surveillance and manned surveillance elsewhere).”

    Wow, I finally agree with something Paul wrote.

    It was bound to happen considering thousands of posts, I don’t think I will be permanently emotionally scarred.

    Will take a few showers, sprinkle some Holy Water on myself, and soldier on.

    These things happen in life, even if you can’t prepare for them.

  51. Paul says:

    Schiff is doing a good job. Jason just has his panties in a wad.

  52. Big Joe says:

    #51 Paul-
    Fair enough.

    Big Joe

  53. VictrC says:

    Wow, thats the best that they have? You would have imagined that Schiff would have something more than inuendo and their own conspiracy theories as his opening statement.

    This is, again, what a coup d’etat looks like in the USA.

  54. VictrC says:

    So Schiff lies, flat out lies, immediately into the hearing by saying he doesn’t know the identity of the whistleblower. He, of course, didnt say that his staff hasn’t coordinate with the whistleblower.

  55. dblaikie says:

    Schiff has been shaken already.

  56. Paul says:

    Devin came across as a partisan hack.

  57. VictrC says:

    Paul… and Schiff? You can honestly say he didn’t come off as a partisan hack?

    This whole thing is an attempt to ensure that Trump doesn’t get re-elected. They know he will never be removed, especially not for this. Instead its a concerted effort to ensure that people view him as being impeached and therefore do not vote for him in 2020.

  58. dblaikie says:

    Paul, what a joke! The very definition of a political hack is Adam Schiff!!

  59. VictrC says:

    ummmm. do you think Kent has a Never Trump t-shirt under this suit.

    The two “witnesses” today both served under Bush “king of the Never Trumpers” and Obama, Yes, they are impartial. LOL

  60. William says:

    #26 Edwards only being up 50-46 does not bode well for him. Election day turnout will be much more republican and a 3-5% gap will be made up on election day vote in Louisiana

  61. VictrC says:

    William et al…how do we know that it is only 50-46? Also, how can it be 50-46 when they are the only two in the running?? where are the other 4%

  62. Wes says:

    I don’t know, William. Black turnout is soaring up there. That’s a benefit to Edwards.

  63. VictrC says:

    LOL Ambassadors using whatsapp thinking its secure.

    Let me summarize Taylor’s testimony.

    a. I am upset that someone else was working on this, even though the President is the one who sets policy.

    b. I heard someone say that someone said xyz. I then heard that someone else said that someone else said, drug deal.

  64. jason says:

    Devin came across as a partisan hack.”

    I read his opening statement.

    Excellent.

    Exposes the Dems for what they really are, cheap little coup advocates.

  65. jason says:

    MSNBC re: whitleblower bias:

    If you find a house full of cocaine, does it matter if the cop is biased?”

    Hmmmm, I thought in the past their point was always that if the cop is biased, there is no case.

    How things change…

  66. mR.viTO says:

    Drug deals and houses full of cocaine?

    Is Hunter Biden testifying already?

  67. Tina says:

    The Rs are lighting pompous Taylor up.

  68. Phil says:

    They are? I have been watching for an hour and a half and they’ve not been able to ask a single question. All I’ve seen is a rehearsed dog and pony show between the Democrats, their counsel, and their stooge witness. It’s a fricken script.

  69. VictrC says:

    Yes, the Dem counsel stooge is making misleading statements and no one can object. Trump, nor any of his “people” once mentioned a re-election campaign, it is the Democrats who invented this.

    The upshot is that the President is in charge of foreign policy. What I see is someone who disagreed and believe they know better.

    What a slime ball their attorney and Schiff are.

  70. VictrC says:

    Havent they gone way past their 45 mins?

  71. Phil says:

    This Taylor guy is one self important, pompous ass. Geez.

  72. VictrC says:

    Did yall see the smug look on Kent’s face when Nunes (who sounds like a robot) just skipped over him because they know its useless, he’s a never tumper lifer.

  73. Janz says:

    Nunes is the only one who seems factually honest. His opening statement was brilliantly stated.

  74. Tina says:

    Taylor imploding won’t answer about 2016 ukranian interference. Why?

  75. Chicon says:

    Bitter’s guy, Gabe Kapler, has been hired to manage the Giants.

  76. Tina says:

    Jim Jordan is just crushing him. Taylor is done.

  77. Chicon says:

    Ginsburg is home sick today.

  78. Trump says:

    I’m screwed.

  79. NYCmike says:

    “Jim Jordan is just crushing him. Taylor is done.”

    -I thought Republicans weren’t allowed to ask questions?

  80. Tina says:

    CBS Evening News
    @CBSEveningNews
    · 45m
    George Kent: “To summarize, we thought the [CEO of Burisma] had stolen money. We thought a prosecutor had take an bribe to shut the case.”
    GOP counsel: “Are you in favor of that matter being fully investigated and prosecuted?” https://cbsn.ws/2Qf0y71

  81. Tina says:

    Breaking.

    Barr says ig report imminent

  82. VictrC says:

    Jordan just crushed Taylor. Not only did he get him to admit that everything he said was heresay and he didn’t have 1st hand knowledge but that also that he could have been mistaken.

    WOW

  83. Chicon says:

    Tina, where did you see the “imminent” report?

  84. NYCmike says:

    Can’t we just wait for the IG Report to drop?

    That way, it can be a B O M B S H E L L ! !

  85. Paul says:

    Drudge says IG Report has fizzled and might be delayed until January.

  86. Chicon says:

    Mike – the coup plotters will seek justice right after they find the big treasure on Oak Island.

  87. Tina says:

    BARR on IG Report: “It has been reported, and it’s my understanding that it is imminent. That people who are mentioned in the report are having an opportunity right now to comment on how they were quoted in the report”

  88. Tina says:

    Arrival may be a week or two.

  89. Chicon says:

    90 – meant to say the coup plotters will see justice right after they find the big treasure on Oak Island.

  90. Tina says:

    Brutally true.

    Matt Gaetz
    ?
    @mattgaetz
    House Democrats are having such a bad day they might want to invite Mueller back.

    6,201
    11:38 AM – Nov 13, 2019

  91. Tina says:

    Yikes.

    “Heresay can be much better evidence than DIRECT EVIDENCE” Dem Rep Mike Quigley.

  92. Victrc says:

    Recap of testimony

    1. Neither witness has first hand knowledge of anything.
    2. Neither witness has ever met the Oresident
    3. The President has the right to fire Ambassadors
    4. The President has the right to make foreign policy.
    5. None of the aid held up was even scheduled to reach the Ukraine during the 55 days it was held
    6. Trump has given exponentially more aid, especially necessary military weapons than Obama.
    7. The Ukrainian President said he was never pressured, there was no quid pro quo and that their calls were normal.
    8. Ukraine didn’t know the aid was being help up until about two weeks before it was released
    9. The whistle blower is tantamount to a saint and will not be revealed or forced to testify
    10. The whistleblower has no first hand knowledge
    11. Schiff’s Team talked to the whistleblower before the complaint was filed
    12. None of today’s testimony would have been admissible in a court of law.
    13. None of the Democrats false characterizations would have been allowed to stand in the record in a court of law.
    14. There is no evidence of wrong doing.
    15. The Democrats are shifting from quid pro quo to extortion and bribery because they know there was no quid pro quo

    And finally…

    16. Democrats and Never Trumpers will still believe he’s guilty of being a bad guy and should be impeached so as to either remove him, or ensure he loses next year, and today’s hearing will not have changed their minds

    17. Republicans and Conservatives will see this for what it is, a coup d’etat because Democrats and NT still can’t accept the results of the 2016 election, and todays hearings will have not changed their minds

  93. NYCmike says:

    #97 – Victrc,

    We await the opinion of our #NeverTrumpers to tell us what really happened today

  94. Phil says:

    If Pelosi had any brains she’d pull the plug on this right now and go fo something face saving like censure. It’s probably what her gut is telling her.

    Unfortunately, she probably feels trapped and feels she’s too far down the road to u turn now. An off ramp to censure allows her, House Democrats, and their media puppets some face saving cover. My guess is that the Democrats from Trump districts are livid.

  95. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    YouGovUS/@TheEconomist Poll:
    Warren 26%
    Biden 23%
    Sanders 17%
    Buttigieg 9%
    Harris 5%
    Yang 4%
    Klobuchar/Gabbard/Castro2%
    Delaney/Booker/Steyer/Bullock 1%

    @MorningConsult
    NEW 2020 tracking data is live:
    Biden: 32%
    Sanders: 20%
    Warren: 19% (-1)
    Buttigieg: 8% (+1)
    Harris: 5%
    Booker: 3%
    Yang: 3%
    Bloomberg: 2%
    Klobuchar: 2%

    The polls are all over the place.

    When everyone had a landline, polling was relatively straightforward and usually accurate. Now trying to determine what is a representative sample is a guessing-game of computer modeling and utilizing various forms of communication. It is hit and miss; if you guess right twice your an expert.

  96. Chicon says:

    Mike – it is a hard truth to acknowledge that elements within the US government actively sought to change the outcome of a Presidential election.

  97. Paul says:

    103: That’s why we need Trump removed.

  98. Chicon says:

    104 – yeah, that’s the ticket…..

  99. Paul says:

    105: Trump is not above the law.

  100. Phil says:

    Call me when he actually breaks the law.

  101. dblaikie says:

    Tell what law Trump has broken? And please supply evidence that meets the standard of “innocent until proven guilty.”

  102. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    102. Here is a quote from the article; whatever Trump’s faults, this attempt by the bureaucratic gnomes to preserve their fiefdoms has to be defeated:

    “Vindman’s Testimony Gives the Game Away

    They began with a “whistleblower,” but it was quickly shown that this person was nowhere near any of the events in question and likely colluded with Democrats prior to even filing the complaint. They needed a better front man, and Vindman was perfect: a military officer with a Purple Heart and privy to all the requisite details as the Ukraine desk lead for the National Security Council. Who would dare impugn his honor?
    But Vindman gave the game away with his prepared testimony. He believes the permanent bureaucracy should reign supreme, and if some elected politician gets crosswise with the solons of the state, then they must act. So he did, as he detailed in his prepared statement and testimony to Congress. From the statement: “In the Spring of 2019, I became aware of outside influencers promoting a false narrative of Ukraine inconsistent with the consensus views of the interagency. This narrative was harmful to U.S. government policy.”
    There is a lot of wrong in those two sentences, which profoundly illustrate the fundamental flaw Vindman and his fellow Deep Staters operate under. The interagency he mentions is a collection of staff from the major agencies like the State Department, Department of Defense, and intelligence agencies, who meet to coordinate and plan implementation of policy. They most certainly are not supposed to decide what policy the United States will follow. That is 100 percent the purview of the president.”

  103. Tina says:

    Jebots had a very bad day today, they lost cn and n.

    The Reckoning ? Retweeted

    Steve Guest
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    Adam Schiff has lost CNN:

    CNN’s Toobin: neither witness “had direct contact with the president…that’s a problem”
    RNC Research

  104. NYCmike says:

    “CNN’s Toobin: neither witness “had direct contact with the president…that’s a problem””

    -Not for Paul….

  105. NYCmike says:

    “105: Trump is not above the law.”

    -Correct.

    That is the reason why he doesn’t break the law. He values hi freedom to torture the likes of you more than taking advantage of his political position to enrich himself, like the Bidens and the Clintons have done.

    I’ll leave the Bush family and the Obama’s out of this, as both of them were smart enough to figure out they needed legit businesses to attain their wealth.

  106. NYCmike says:

    “hi freedom” = his freedom

  107. Tina says:

    Perry Mason moment here when Ratcliffe takes down dumb and dumber, from a picture:

    https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2

  108. Tina says:

    Rep. Chris Stewart
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    @RepChrisStewart
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    Can you give me an example, anytime, where the Vice President shows up and demands that a specific prosecutor be fired & gives them a 6 hour time limit to do so? Are you aware of that ever happening in any other place?

    *SILENCE*

    I guess the answer is no…

  109. Tina says:

    Undercover Huber
    ?

    @JohnWHuber
    6m6 minutes ago
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    The only way this impeachment hearing could have gone worse would have been to have Bob Mueller testify again

  110. Phil says:

    I kept hearing this was going to be Schiff’s biggest day.

    He better hope it wasn’t.

  111. Pitchaboy says:

    They spent two years trying to prove Trump did what HRC actually did. Now they will spend 2 trying to show DJT did what Biden actually did.

  112. John says:

    Looking at this it has to be a disappointing day for Democrats. Way too much hearsay, conjecture and outright bitching about a foreign policy that some people disagree upon.
    I’m looking at this to sour on the American public soon and Pelosi/Schiff cutting their loses and calling a ‘censure’ vote.

  113. Phil says:

    My view as well, John. It’s their only off ramp. Nancy has to protect her 31 Members elected in Trump districts. Those members gave her the majority. She’s not stupid. The proceedings today aren’t going to give those 31 the cover to go along with this impeachment and not be damaged in the fall.

  114. VictrC says:

    The Dems are running with the extortion and bribery meme now.

    Quid pro Quo didn’t work
    Mueller didn’t work
    Collusion didn’t work
    Russia didn’t work

    BTW, how do you extort and bribe someone at the same time?

  115. Bio mom says:

    Reading politico and drudge headlines it would seem Trump was devastated today. Here, the dems failed. I think I will just read novels on my Kindle from now on.

  116. Bitterlaw says:

    I read 102’s opinion piece. Zzzzzzzz. If there really was a Deep State, we would never hear about Deep State.

    I did not see the Hearing. From reading different biased sources, it was a great day for Dems (according to Dems) and a terrible day for Dems (according to Republicans.)

  117. Tina says:

    “…the low-key testimony given by the two witnesses may have fallen short of giving the Democrats the ammunition they need to advance their argument.”

    Reuter’s

  118. Tina says:

    And when the cabbage patch Vindman appears, no mercy Rs.

    He leaked classified info,

    Happy hunting grounds.

  119. jason says:

    In a nutshell

    Taylor: My understanding is only coming from people that I talked to.”

    .@Jim_Jordan: “We got that.”

  120. jason says:

    The stock market doesn’t like uncertainty.

    It closed at a record high.

    Translation: the market doesn’t think Trump is going anywhere.

  121. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1194715834092019712

    -Why am I not surprised that this guy comes from the same “state” as “CG”?

  122. Cash Cow TM says:

    Out in the barnyard today, me ands some of my peeps (and moos, and baas) listened to a bit of the impeachment hearing.

    Even the dumb sheep and chickens could see thru the D contrived bull crap.

    ****************************************
    Not a good day for Shiff and “Pee-Loosey” when they lose the sheep and chickens.

  123. Cash Cow TM says:

    Say….did I see post on here from Mr. Vito, the long lost sock??

  124. jason says:

    Neither of these guys ever met Trump. They didn’t hear Trump tell anybody anything.

    Taylor today said he heard that someone heard someone talking to Trump on the phone and that Trump “asked about Ukraine investigations”.

    Schiff has turned the US into a banana republic and the MSM is letting him do it.

  125. jason says:

    Can you give me an example, anytime, where the Vice President shows up and demands that a specific prosecutor be fired & gives them a 6 hour time limit to do so?”

    Worse than that. If you don’t fire him in 6 hours you don;’t get $1 billion in loan guarantees.

  126. Cash Cow TM says:

    From testimony today (and cross examining of the star witnesses)…

    The woman ambassador to the Ukraine was fired weeks before Trump’s phone call to the Ukrainian president.

    When asked, the witness agreed that all ambassadors serve as at will employees and can be legally removed by a president at any time.

    When asked, “so removing an ambassador in your opinion would not be an impeachable offence?”

    Witness: I am here to testify and answer questions on what I saw and heard. It is up to you all to weigh the facts.

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    TRANSLATION: UNLESS YOU ARE A BABBLING IDIOT, NO…A PRESIDENT FIRING AN AMBASSADOR IS NOT AN IMPEACHABLE OFFENSE.

  127. Tgca says:

    new thread LOSAHS!