Sanders Leads Dems in NH in Two New Polls

Hope everyone is having a good start to the Thanksgiving week. This week we have received two new Democratic primary polls in New Hampshire, one from Suffolk University and The Boston Globe and one from Emerson College and WHDH.

Sanders 16%
Warren 14%
Buttigieg 13%
Biden 12%
Gabbard 6%
Yang 4%
Harris 3%
Steyer 2%
Booker 2%
Everyone Else 1% or less

Sanders 26%
Buttigieg 22%
Warren 14%
Biden 14%
Gabbard 6%
Yang 5%
Harris 4%
Steyer 3%
Booker 2%
Klobuchar 2%
Everyone Else 1% or less

Emerson College also gave us some General Election numbers.

Biden (D) 52%
Trump (R-inc) 48%

Sanders (D) 52%
Trump (R-inc) 48%

Buttigieg (D) 53%
Trump (R-inc) 47%

Trump (R-inc) 51%
Yang (D) 49%

Trump (R-inc) 51%
Warren (D) 49%

The Suffolk poll was done November 21-24 among likely Democratic primary voters. The Emerson poll was done November 22-26 among likely voters for both the primary and general.

Posted by Dave at 12:24 pm
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570 Responses to “Sanders Leads Dems in NH in Two New Polls”

  1. jason says:


    “A federal judge on Wednesday once again delayed the criminal sentencing of Michael Flynn, President Donald Trump’s first national security advisor.
    Flynn’s sentencing hearing had been scheduled for Dec. 18 — a year after he had first appeared in U.S. District Court in Washington to be sentenced on a charge of lying to FBI agents.The court filing notes that a report from the DOJ’s Office of Inspector General, expected to be publicly released within the next several weeks, is expected to “examine topics related to several matters raised by” Flynn.”

  2. jason says:

    Can someone click on the magoo porn link on the other thread?

    I would do it myself but here in Amish country I don’t want to get into trouble with the Bishop.

  3. jason says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    November 27, 2019 at 10:33 am

    With the return of Mr. Vito and Scooter, we can now convene the Tribunal. Time to seize MD and spin the Wheel of Sorrows. This year we added Thanksgiving Dinner with Elizabeth Warren to the Wheel.”

    Yes, it’s always nice to have a quorum for weighty decisions.

  4. Big Joe says:

    Looks like we are down to the Final 4. Good polls for the Bern, Mayor Pete holding his bump, Avuncular Joe Biden holding steady, and Warren returning to the pack.

    Hopefully the also-rans will start dropping out and it will be interesting to see where there support goes.

    Big Joe

  5. jason says:

    “Quinnipiac University poll, released Tuesday, found support for the president’s impeachment had dropped from 48% in late October to 45% a month later. The poll surveyed 1,355 registered voters from Nov. 21-25, with a margin of error of +/- 3.2 percentage points.”

    So basically everyone who hates Trump wants him impeached.


  6. jason says:

    Final four?

    Two eighty year olds, one a communist the other senile, fake Indian Lieawatha and someone whose claim to fame is a mediocre stint as mayor of South Bend, IN.

    Heck of a Final Four!

  7. Big Joe says:

    where *their* support goes

  8. jason says:

    I remember at the start of all this when I picked Mayor Butt as the Dem nominee and Corey laughed at me.

  9. Sanders will not get the nomination. Obama has already said he’ll speak up if Bernie gets too much support.

  10. jason says:

    Sanders will not get the nomination. Obama has already said he’ll speak up if Bernie gets too much support.”

    And they call it the “Democratic Party”.

  11. Wes says:

    Well, China is the People’s Democratic Republic of China.

    The term has little if any meeting.

  12. Wes says:

    Save the taxpayers money and just shoot him.

    Oh, wait. Liberals consider his life sacred. I don’t get why liberals consider murderers’ lives sacrosanct. Thus, he gets to live out his natural life.

  13. lisab says:

    what could possibly go wrong?

    MA town launches experiment to give 16 year olds the vote

    This should be interesting. If the state gives its approval, the town of Brookline, Massachusetts will gain a lot of new voters in the future. At a town meeting last week, residents voted to extend the right to vote in municipal elections to 16 and 17-year-olds. The vote wasn’t even close either, with the measure passing by a two to one margin. The reasons given by supporters are a bit on the dodgy side, but we’ll get to that in a moment. (CBS Boston)

  14. lisab says:

    100 Machete Wielding Muslims Storm UK Theater, Attacking Both Movie Goers & Cops

    100 Machete Wielding Muslims Storm UK Theater, Attacking Both Movie Goers & Cops (Video)

    Written by: Dean Garrison

    Published on: November 27, 2019

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    Thankfully there are no guns allowed in The UK, or one of these Muslim Gang Members may have been hurt.

    We need to pay close attention to these stories coming from Europe because these are the results of open immigration policies.

    These are the scenes from a glorious Sunday afternoon in the UK…

    A shocking photograph showing a young gang armed with a machete outside a cinema complex has been circulated on social media after a brawl broke out and police officers were attacked.

    Pockets of fighting erupted in a 100-strong crowd at Star City cinema in Birmingham this afternoon after a ‘group of people arrived with machetes’.

    Several arrests were made and police officers were assaulted as they descended on the scene armed with guard dogs at 5.30pm. It has also been alleged that they were carrying tasers.

    Families and young children were at the cinema to see Frozen 2.

    Pictures from the scene show police cars blocking access to the area as a policeman is seen standing with a guard dog.

    Shocking footage shows young women appearing to push each other as officers try to get control of the situation.

    Flashing blue lights are also seen as a group of at least eight officers stands on the pavement outside in front of a large crowd.

  15. NYCmike says:


    I don’t think “CG” and Robbie will approve of you besmirching the “religion of peace” adherents in such a vile and bigoted manner.

  16. lisab says:

    well … you really cannot blame the muslims …

    elsa and anna were showing their hair

  17. lisab says:

    Actress Jennifer Agostini, friends attacked leaving Midtown bar: court papers

    But on their way out of the West 40th Street club, they got jumped and beaten to the ground by a group of 10 to 15 people who were yelling “white motherf—ers,” “dirty white b—-es” and “f—k those white b—-es and their money,” the court papers say.

  18. lisab says:

    Ohio district says it will stop allowing white students to leave district, citing ‘racial balance’

    An Ohio school district with a growing proportion of minority students says it will stop allowing white students to attend a neighboring district through open enrollment and take public funding with them because it wants to avoid becoming segregated.

    The Liberty Local Schools board just north of Youngstown unanimously backed that resolution this week, stepping into the knotty intersection of education funding and race. It cited a nearly 30-year-old state law that districts can object to students enrolling elsewhere tuition-free “in order to maintain an appropriate racial balance.”

    The situation is an unusual reversal of how racial issues typically play out in disputes over inter-district open enrollment, said University of Oklahoma professor Deven Carlson, who has studied such enrollment. Those disputes tend to be about affluent, mostly white districts trying to exclude students, Carlson said, not about lower-income, more diverse districts trying to retain them, as in this case.

  19. mR.viTO says:

    The Washington Post
    ?Verified account @washingtonpost

    Trump tweets doctored photo of his head on Sylvester Stallone’s body, unclear why


    Why would Trump tweet a doctored photo of himself as Rocky?

    These are the people who call themselves DC intellectuals?

  20. mR.viTO says:

    Contrary to popular belief, the former White House counsel has been ordered to show up, not to testify — and even that is being appealed.

  21. Tina says:


    “Impeachment Proceedings Are Making President’s Re-election More Likely, Not Less” – Michael Bloomberg’s Campaign Manager Drops a Bomb on CNN

  22. dblaikie says:

    20 It is amazing what Trump Derangement Syndrome will do to your mind.

    By the way for us Hedgehoge people the best proof that impeachment is a dud is the absence of Wormtongue (Robbie) droning on and on.

  23. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Happy Birthday to Tina Turner! She turned 80 today.

  24. mR.viTO says:

    Guy Benson Retweeted
    Tom Harwood
    MRP: 68 seat majority for Tories.

    Although two weeks out so no one should count their chickens

  25. Tina says:

    So, according to the Ny Slimes, spies were placed in and around the Trump Campaign, but “did not” target Trump.

  26. jason says:

    False but credible.

    GPS Fusion clowns on Cohen’s non-visit to Prague.

    “Asked if they are sticking by the Cohen-Prague allegation, Fritsch said that “we’re sticking by the credibility of Chris’s reporting” — a reference to Steele. “We believe it’s credible. Whether it’s true or not is another matter,” said Fritsch.

  27. jason says:

    Oh well, maybe not such a great idea to testify in the charade.

    “Three women have accused Gordon Sondland, a key witness in the impeachment inquiry against President Trump, of sexual misconduct in the years before he was nominated to serve as the ambassador to the European Union.”

  28. JulStol says:

    Happy Thanksgiving & cream soda to all…even Corey G.

  29. Cash Cow TM says:

    Over a foot of snow here in Northern Wisco. today….

    Walt’s leg is doing better…

  30. Bitterlaw says:

    Happy Thanksgiving, Jul. GFY.

  31. lisab says:

    happy thanksgiving julstol!

    could you get bitterlaw a job at teavana?

  32. JulStol says:

    Teavana’s been out of business for a couple years now. Seems to happen to a lot of my former employers. Odd.

    I probably make more $ than MD these days. Thanks, Trump!

  33. Victrc says:

    Happy Thanksgiving to all of you…even our resident Liberals and quasi conservatives.

    May each of you and your family have a truly blessed day. I know I’m thankful for Dave creating this place, and for it being the haven for me to come to when I’m far away, and for all of you who honestly care enough to post here year after year.

    Have a wonderful holiday…and good to see some old timers returning!

  34. Tgca says:

    Hello. Helloooooo?

    Anyone there?

    Anyone want to discuss ABORTION?

  35. Victrc says:

    TGCA … only on tuesdays. Sorry 😉

  36. lisab says:

    “I probably make more $ than MD these days. ”

    selling drugs?

  37. lisab says:

    they closed teavana?

    those barbarians!

  38. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Has politics now become one big Scandal Sheet? It seems so!Today, H. Biden and G. Sondland walk the plank of sleaziness!


  39. Messy says:

    On this thanksgiving day, be thankful that it’s them instead of you.

  40. jason says:

    Happy Thanksgiving to all A-holes and a-holes!

    If I left anyone out it was not intentional.

  41. Tgca says:

    Finally a day off from work after nearly 27 days nonstop including weekends.

    Time to start preparing the annual TGCA TG feast.

    Need to mash up the tofu and chick peas then roasted to perfection with toasted almonds into an awesome vegan turkey delight.

    I think only two healthy veggie side dishes this year to reduce all the leftovers. Roasted brussel sprouts with cayenne pepper doused with lime juice and boiled beets cubed and drenched in Apple Cider Vinegar and slivered white onions.

    Of course, a seaweed salad with sesame oil and Parmesan cheese will start the feast as well as an appetizing egg and yogurt soufflé with minced garlic and chives.

    Healthy servings of extra fermented cucumber and lemon Kombucha tea to accommodate the meal is a must.

    And to top it all off, a wonderful green tea and wheat grass coconut milk pudding sprinkled with cinnamon.

    Hmmm…I wonder if anyone will stop by this year to share a bite.

  42. SusyQue says:

    Not only has Chick-fil-A abandoned donations to Christian groups including the Salvation Arm and Catholic Charoties it has donated to one of the most extreme anti-Christian groups in America SPLC. It has donated to pro-abort and pro-Muslim groups all in the last year!

    The Devil has taken over and us White Ameican Christians need to always be vigilant. Friends become enemies in blinks of eyes!

    We must bring down Chick Fil A! Boycott in the name of the Lord!

  43. dblaikie says:

    Happy Thanksgiving to one and all.

  44. Cash Cow TM says:


  45. Wes says:

    I feel my stomach churning whenever I read one of TGCA’s meal posts.

  46. SusyQue says:

    White Christian America is under attack! God is on our side. Without God there would be No Thanks. The election of His Chosen President Donald J. Trump was all about Good vs. Evil. We will not let the Muslims and Gays and Pro-Aborts destroy our White Christian Values! We must pray.

    Give thanks unto the Lord, call upon his name, make known his deeds among the people.

    1 Chronicles 16:8

    In Him

  47. lisab says:

    Hawaiian Judge Blocks President Trump’s Turkey Pardon

  48. lisab says:

    ‘Lap dancers used a sex toy on Hunter Biden at a New York club’ and his baby mama Lunden Roberts ‘was a stripper named Dallas he met in a club in Washington that he frequented after dating his brother Austin’s widow, named Paris, who he met in Delaware.’

  49. SusyQue says:

    Rest in Peace, RBG. You are the enemy. Our Chosen One Donald J Trump will live. RBG dies and I pray.

    Eternal rest, grant unto her) O Lord and let perpetual light shine upon her). May she) rest in peace (Amen) May her dark soul and the souls of all the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace. Amen.

  50. lisab says:

    ICE arrested 250 foreign students at fake university in metro Detroit

  51. lisab says:

    Recently Pardoned Turkey Found Dead After Claiming To Have Dirt On Hillary Clinton

  52. lisab says:

    Virginia Senate Bill No. 64 – Declaring Tactical Training Illegal: “A person shall be is guilty of unlawful paramilitary activity, punishable as a Class 5 felony if he: Teaches or demonstrates to any other person the use, application, or making of any firearm…”

  53. lisab says:

    Trump makes surprise visit to troops in Afghanistan

  54. jason says:

    mmm…I wonder if anyone will stop by this year to share a bite.”

    Huh, might not be a good idea, I almost threw up at the description of the meal.

  55. jason says:

    I think Susyque and PeteWilson are the same person.

    Two people can’t be that moronic.

  56. jason says:

    I never ate at Chick-fil-a, but I am tempted to go there after reading the moron’s post.

  57. jason says:

    I guess heads are going to roll at the Cowboys.

    Jerry Jones warns coaches and they respond by getting destroyed by the Bills.

  58. Bitterlaw says:

    The Cowboys losing made my day.

  59. jason says:

    A feast fit for kings made my day.

    No, there was no tofu or fermented cucumber.

  60. Phil says:

    Just watched ending of Ole Miss-Miss St game. Now that’s what I call pissing a game away. LOL

  61. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Just a brief California weather report. As everyone knows, the prophet of global warming doom, Governor Brown stated California was now in “permanent drought” and he refused to build any more dams (which we badly need) because there would not be enough future rainfall to fill them.

    Today California is receiving heavy rainfall, and snowfall at higher elevations. I-5 is closed going over the Grapevine, and at the border of Oregon, because of heavy snow. I-15 going over Mountain Pass into Nevada also is experiencing heavy snow, and may soon be closed. Areas in the Sierra Nevada are having record snow. Snow is falling at elevations as low as 2500 feet.

    Records cold days were recorded in Newport Beach, Santa Ana, Anaheim and much of Orange County, as well as Palm Springs, Big Bear and Borrego, and elsewhere. Many streets in Los Angeles and San Diego have turned into rivers.

    This is 3rd year of cold and very wet winters in California. It seems to go against the climate change narrative. Its definitely not weather that Prince Harry should stroll around barefoot in.

  62. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Snow down to 2,000 feet in some places; falling in higher elevations of Los Angeles metro area.

    @NWSSanDiego heavy snow beginning again in Beamount just abv I-10. Flakes the size of quarters!

  63. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    As millennial age, they seem to be becoming more mainstream. Its likely, as with past younger generations, their politics will change as well.

    “Last week, the National Christmas Tree Association released findings from its latest consumer survey. The trade group, which represents thousands of Christmas tree growers nationwide, hired Nielsen/Harris researchers to interview 2,020 US adults last January, just as the holiday season ended.
    Their study found a 20% spike in the purchase of real Christmas trees — evergreen pine trees — and a 12% rise in artificial tree purchases in 2018.
    The association’s study found that last year American adults bought about 5.4 million more real Christmas trees and 2.5 million more artificial trees than they did in 2017. NCTA seasonal spokesperson Doug Hundley said most of those new purchases were made by Millennials, adults born between the early 1980s and the mid 1990s.
    “The Millennial generation is now of the age where they’re settling down, getting married, having kids and turning to real trees to build their own family traditions,” Hundley told CNN Business. “We’ve been looking at that demographic for some time and expecting this to happen.””

  64. Bitterlaw says:

    Stay thankful, mf-ers

  65. jason says:

    I am thankful for turkey sandwiches. Less so for turkey hash. Even less so for turkey soup.

  66. Wes says:

    I’m thankful I don’t eat that slop Tgca enjoys.

  67. NYCmike says:

    I’m thankful to be back at work after dealing with some kind of flu/virus all day yesterday. I am waiting to be thankful to find out if my sister kept some turkey dinner leftovers for me.

    I do wonder if Tgca’s dinner menu contributed to my malady……

  68. lisab says:

    Is Impeachment of a Duly-Elected President a Small Price to Pay to Preserve the Institutions That are Never Mentioned in the U.S. Constitution?

  69. lisab says:

    The Hallmark Channel’s Under Fire: It’s Far Too White and Christmasy During the Holiday Season

  70. lisab says:

    MSNBC compares Trump supporters to followers of terror group ISIS

  71. lisab says:

    1 out of 4 supporters at huge Trump Florida rally were Hispanic, Democrat, or both

  72. lisab says:

    NY Times’ Goldberg: ‘The First Big Lie Is That the People Elected Trump’

  73. lisab says:

    Woman who regrets becoming a transgender male 17 years ago says medical professionals should NOT have helped her to transition

    well duh … she transitioned to a white male 17 years ago! talk about choosing wrong … she should have at least transitioned to being a gay white male

    “suddenly i was expected to get a job, keep quiet and pay large amounts of taxes, and people said all my achievements were because of my white male privilege instead of my work ethic. it sucked! so i went back to being a woman.”

  74. lisab says:

    Super PAC Backing Cory Booker’s Presidential Bid Shuts Down

  75. BayernFan says:

    someone on twitter is claiming that a Marist poll has trump at 33% among blacks. if true that would be three.

  76. NYCmike says:


    I won’t make a difference in NY, but I can’t wait to vote next year. I hope people in about 28 states or more feel the same way I do, and for the same candidate.

  77. lisab says:

    “austere scholar with fake explosive device killed by uk police in isolated incident. no motive has been found.”

  78. lisab says:

    Strzok-Page Texts Were Not Unearthed by Sharp FBI Investigative Work – Strzok’s Angry and Scorned Wife Turned Him In After Finding Texts on His Phone!

  79. lisab says:

    Hunter Biden’s $130 MILLION Bailout Loan for Rosemont Capital While VP Daddy was handing out TARP CASH

  80. lisab says:

    Three Minors Wounded In Stabbing At Shopping District In The Netherlands, Police Say

    austere scholar suspect still at large

  81. lisab says:

    Trans Woman Smashes Four World Records and Wins Nine Events in Women’s Weightlifting Tournament

    Mary Gregory smashed four women’s weightlifting records and won nine out of nine events at a single tournament—as fresh a male-to-female transgender. But not everyone was so happy with that.

    Gregory competed as a recently transgendered female at the 100% Raw Weightlifting Federation competition in Zion Crossroads, Virginia on May 27, and crushed four records in Masters world squat, open world bench press, masters world deadlift, and masters world total, Yahoo Sports reported.

    She jubilated her victory on Instagram last Monday, and thanked the organization for its leniency as it comes to adhering to fair-play regulations.

  82. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    85. “leniency as it comes to adhering to fair-play regulations.:

    Yeah right. What a total joke. Has society really gone this insane.

  83. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is the headline from a TV story from San Diego’s NBC television station:

    “San Diego’s Dream of a White Thanksgiving Comes True.”

    Its snowing in places that it has never snowed in people’s lifetime. Think how much worse it would be if we weren’t experiencing global warming.

  84. janz says:

    #65 SDC, the CA weather pattern is certainly far afield from what global warming alarmists stress is happening. We had heavy rain here for Thanksgiving. A friend in Palmdale, a high desert community, experienced 4” of snow. The Grapevine has been snowed in, with temps reaching a 27 degree low tonight.

    As for N. CA’s North coast region, rain is predicted for at least 9 out of the next 15 day forecast. And, because of all the bureaucratic, environmentally endorsed water management of this state, most of this rainfall will be swept out to the ocean, not made available when the next cycles of drought recycle through the state again.

  85. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    88. Agree Janz. It is insane to let all that water just run into the ocean. Trump in October overruled the crazy restrictions on water being used by farmers in the Central Valley because of the delta smelt fish; we now will get higher food production in the western part of the San Joaquin Valley. Governor Newsom postured on the issue, but in reality is not going to do anything. the delta smelt in not endangered; it is being breed very successfully in captivity, and is thriving.

    One of my sisters married into a Japanese family that are major growers in the Fresno area. They were interned in WWII, but came out of it and thrived. But the potential water restrictions are a concern. California agriculture is some of the most productive in that nation.

    The California Democratic establishment, Newsom, Feinstein, Boxer, Harris and others, is from San Francisco. I firmly believe that eventually they will be pushed out by a coalition of Latino and Asian working class voters, centered on the Central Valley and Southern California.

  86. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not think I have ever eaten any of the foods listed by Tgca.

  87. janz says:

    SDC, I hope you’re right about an eventual transition of power from the insanity of SF liberals to the more common sense Central Valley leaders. Nunes represents that area of the state, and Victor D Hansen writes about historical and political pragmatics that are so refreshing in this day and age of ideological drivel and BS.

  88. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    90. I do not think I have ever eaten any of the foods listed by Tgca.

    Agree, the guy needs some serious beef. Some churrasco would do him good.

  89. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    91. Janz, I see it eventually happening. But I am going to be blunt — Latinos are the working class in California. Republicans need to embrace them, and accept they represent the future. They are the ones being screwed by elite Anglo liberalism in California.

  90. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I anyone has not seen it. President Trump went to Afghanistan and served dinner to the troops. God please him.

  91. janz says:

    Doug Weed just finished a book on Trump and his WH. He gave a 55 minute interview with the Epoch Times about his on-the-record conversations he had directly with the president, his family, close associates etc. It was simply fascinating!

    Weed seems like a humble, honest historian who has written books on 6 presidents, with the goal of depicting and preserving long term historically accurate accounts of each leader. His perspective on Trump is very different from the public image portrayed by the press and those opposing him. In fact, it’s eye-opening, quite encouraging without any dramatic, hyperbolic flourishes, which may account for the death threats this biographer has received, warning him not to publish the book. It’s the first time in 40 some years that he has experienced such threats, but was undeterred in not pulling the book, which came out a few days ago.

    I will try to post the link to this interview later when I can, as it is well worth the listen.

  92. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “London Bridge terrorist, 28, was jailed for eight years in 2012 for plotting to BOMB the London Stock Exchange and build an Islamic terror camp – but was RELEASED last year and had an ankle tag on when he stabbed a man and a woman to death
    The Met Police have named the London Bridge terrorist as Usman Khan, 28
    The knife-wielding terrorist had been released from prison in December 2018
    He was jailed for a minimum of eight years having been convicted of terrorism
    Police have raided an address in Staffordshire linked to the slain terrorist.”

    How long due we have to support these weak European pussies in their inability to accept that fact the Islamic terrorists want to wipe them out?

  93. lisab says:

    “for plotting to BOMB the London Stock Exchange and build an Islamic terror camp”

    camp for austere scholars

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  95. jason says:

    Drudge determined to portray economy as bad since his impeachment push fizzled.

  96. jason says:

    Some churrasco would do him good.”

    Preferably rodízio.

  97. VictrC says:

    So this guy wants to be President and thinks that even joining the race late, he’s the guy to beat Trump.

    Watch this please, he states:

    A. People can’t be trusted enough to decide for themselves what they should drink
    B. People who are worried about coal miners should get over it, they’ll find other jobs to do when we shut down all coal
    C. You need to tax the poor so that they can live longer; see A

    Yes, Bloomberg should carry PA easily after these comments

  98. Tina says:

    I am freezing in n. ca.

    40 degrees where I am at (not in sf today).

  99. lisab says:

    “The View” co-host Whoopi Goldberg on Wednesday said a possible Donald Trump presidency signals that “maybe it’s time” for her to move out of the country.

    Ms. Goldberg was responding to a claim by fellow co-host Joy Behar that the Republican presidential front-runner “has a lot of Democratic tendencies, if you look at his record.”

  100. lisab says:

    U.S. Posts First Month in 70 Years as a Net Petroleum Exporter

  101. lisab says:

    We have to take away your freedom of speech, or else society won’t be free. merkel

  102. lisab says:

    Recently Pardoned Turkey Found Dead After Claiming To Have Dirt On Hillary Clinton

    WASHINGTON, D.C.—A turkey recently pardoned by President Trump was found dead after claiming to have dirt on the Clintons, sources at the FBI confirmed today.

    The official cause of death was suicide, though the bullet wounds were in the back of the turkey’s head and the bird lacked opposable thumbs with which to operate a firearm.

    The turkey had been publicly pardoned for the crime of being delicious and set free by Trump in a popular White House Thanksgiving tradition. Shortly after being released, the turkey confirmed its possession of “credible” information that would lead to the indictment of Hillary Clinton, posting on the bird’s social media account that it was a good thing Trump had pardoned the turkey, so the world could find the truth out about the Clintons.

  103. lisab says:

    20+ Virginia Counties Become 2A Sanctuaries Overnight

  104. lisab says:

    Muslims in Britain offended by bomb sniffer dogs. “We are not supposed to have dogs. It is against our religion.”

  105. lisab says:

    Alarmists Propose Rebranding ‘Climate Change’ for Greater Shock Value

    ‘Climate Collapse’ is the new word of the day

  106. Victrc says:

    What is considered left on that chart? Engles? Trotsky?

  107. lisab says:

    well … as you can see … there are two moderates, sanders is slightly to the left, and warren is slightly to the right

    and everyone else is pretty much conservative and authortarian

  108. lisab says:

    the london bridge attacker was stopped in part by a polish guy with a narwhal horn

    you don’t see that everyday.

    he was charged with carrying a bladed weapon btw

  109. janz says:

    Here is a link to the Doug Wead interview done by OAN which I thought was so informative. I’ve always liked Wead as a factual presidential historian who sought accuracy over flamboyancy in his writing.

  110. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Amy Coop
    “A guy who was with us at Fishmongers Hall took a 5’ narwhale tusk from the wall and went out to confront the attacker. You can see him standing over the man (with what looks like a white pole) in the video. We were trying to help victims inside but that man’s a hero #LondonBridge.”

    Amy Coop’s twitter account of the attack is insightful, and well worth the read.

  111. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Oh wonderful, the attacker was a paroled terrorist who the parole board found was no longer a threat:

    “Metropolitan Police in London have confirmed that 28-year-old Usman Khan was the attacker who killed two people and wounded three others with a knife on London Bridge Friday before police shot and killed him.

    Khan had been living in the Staffordshire area, north of Birmingham, police said. They said Khan had been known to authorities in Britain, having been convicted in 2012 of “terrorism offenses.”

    According to a 2012 article in The Guardian, Khan had been part of a nine-person plot to bomb the London Stock Exchange and build a training camp for terrorists. Although he had originally been sentenced to prison for public protection — an indefinite term until a parole board decided he was no longer a threat — his sentence was revised in 2013 to 16 years with an eight-year minimum, The Guardian reported.”

  112. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    National @Reuters/@Ipsos Poll:
    Biden 21%
    Sanders 17%
    Warren 11%
    Buttigieg 7%
    Yang 5%
    Harris/Klobuchar/Steyer 2%

    Warren has a plan for everything except how to win an election.

    Harris needs to pull out now; before she embarrasses herself in the California primary.

  113. Tina says:

    Folks, 3 polls show Trumps approval rate over 33 percent with Black Americans,

    Rasmussen, Ermerson, and NPR.

    In one of these polls, he also reached 40 percent with Hispanics.

  114. jason says:

    Conservative wins Uruguay presidential race, ending 15 years of leftist rule.

  115. lisab says:


    trump is going to lose utah, just like in 2016

  116. jobiden says:

    trump is going to lose utah, just like in 2016″

    It’s spelled Idaho.

  117. jason says:

    Dang, Phil, what happened to can’t lose Harris?

  118. Phil says:

    Turned out to be a lousy candidate and even worse camoaigner.

  119. jason says:

    Hey spellcheck, GFY, weeds.

  120. lisab says:

    the betting sites are showing a huge weakness for the dem candidates, but not huge strength for trump

    i read it as the markets/bettors don’t think any of the current candidates are favourites to beat trump

    but …

    they think that if the dems had a strong candidate, trump could be taken down

  121. Tgca says:


  122. Tgca says:

    So all you folks were jealous of my posted holiday meal in 42 I see. Well…FAKE MEAL. Gotcha!!!

    I actually just had a few helpings of spicy cornbread stuffing from Whole Foods, as I was too lazy to cook. My pooch did enjoy some carved turkey and mashed potatoes from WF though, if that counts as a traditional holiday meal.

  123. Tgca says:

    92. SDC trying to hit on me, as if he has some serious beef to offer. Whatever! At least Wes is more subtle and just offers a relaxing rub. Southern men are just so more polite I tell ya.

  124. Bitterlaw says:

    The Eagles lost to the Dolphins. GFY.

  125. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The latest RCP averages. Warren sinking like a rock. Buttigieg leads in Iowa and New Hampshire. Harris needs to bow out before she embarrasses herself.

    RCP National Average (Change since last month):
    Biden 27.0 (-0.5)
    Sanders 18.3 (+0.6)
    Warren 15.8 (-5.9)
    Buttigieg 11.0 (+3.8)
    Harris 3.8 (-1.5)
    Yang 3.3 (+0.8)

    RCP NH Average (Change since last month):
    Buttigieg 20.0 (+11.0)
    Sanders 17.0 (-0.8)
    Warren 14.3 (-10.7)
    Biden 13.3 (-8.1)
    Gabbard 5.0 (+3.2)
    Yang 3.3 (+0.4)
    Harris 2.7 (-1.6)
    Steyer 2.3 (+0.8)
    Booker 2.3 (-1.4)

    RCP Iowa Average (Change since last month):
    Buttigieg 24.0 (+7.7)
    Sanders 18.3 (+5)
    Warren 17.7 (-5)
    Biden 16.3 (-1.4)
    Klobuchar 5.3 (+2.6)
    Harris 3.3 (+0.6)
    Yang 2.7 (-)
    Steyer 2.3 (-4)
    Booker 1.7 (-)
    Gabbard 1.7 (-0.6)

  126. lisab says:

    The Eagles lost to the Dolphins.

    wasn’t that expected?

  127. lisab says:

    if buttigieg is the nominee,

    trump might actually get 20% of the black vote

  128. lisab says:

    one of the people murdered on london bridge

    wrote his master’s thesis on letting people out of prison

    people like his murderer

  129. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    139. Islamic terrorists hold in contempt people who they view as weak and decadent:

    ““Jack was an intelligent, thoughtful and empathetic person who was looking forward to building a future with his girlfriend, Leanne, and making a career helping people in the criminal justice system,” the family said. “We know Jack would not want this terrible, isolated incident to be used as a pretext by the government for introducing even more draconian sentences on prisoners, or for detaining people in prison for longer than necessary.”

    The assailant, identified by authorities as Usman Khan, 28, was attending an event hosted by Learning Together on Friday when the attack occurred. He had been released from prison 11 months earlier after serving less than half of a 16-year sentence for a terrorism conviction.”

  130. Tgca says:

    Despite the terrible tragedy of innocent life lost in the London attack, hopefully the one good thing that might result is that the govt will think twice before letting these terrorist scum out early and questioning the value of these idiotic programs to help the most heinous and vile criminals.

  131. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I do not often agree with Bill Maher, but he is correct about radical Islam. He is outrageously right in the video below:

    “On the Friday broadcast of his HBO show Real Time, Bill Maher told liberals see the world the way they want it rather than the way it is when it comes to the threat of Islam and Islamic terror. Maher, a religious critic, told his fellow liberals he wishes they would have the same “intolerance” for Muslim-related terror around the world that they do for Christians and Christian fundamentalists at home.”

  132. jason says:

    The Eagles lost to the Dolphins. GFY.”

    Old Chinese proverb:

    No use rooting for the Cowboys to lose if you can’t beat the Dolphins.

  133. jason says:

    Well…FAKE MEAL. Gotcha!!! ”

    So the fake meal was fake?

    Who knew?

  134. Wes says:

    The Texans’ defense is on fire.

  135. Cash Cow TM says:

    Flew home from MSP yesterday with Walt and his Missus. (I flew free, as Walt’s service animal–two whole seats for me!)

    We got out before the next snow storm hit norther Wisco….more than 20 inches on top of the 13 they had while we were still there.

  136. Wes says:

    We can safely say Tom Brady is human now.

  137. jason says:

    Rumor is a lot of the Cheatriots were sick. I don’t know about Brady.

  138. jason says:

    as Walt’s service animal”

    Hey Cow, from what I see Walt works like a mule and you don’t do sh-t.

    The airline got conned.

  139. jason says:

    “Former Haitian Senate President Calls Clintons ‘Common Thieves Who Should Be in Jail’

  140. jason says:

    So the Dolphins evidently ran the trick play of the year against the Eagles? A “goat fake field goal”.

    I just watched it but I don’t really get it. There was no kicker lined up on the play so the Eagles knew it was going to be a trick play right?

    What am I missing?

  141. jason says:

    Elizabeth Warren should consider him for VP…

    “Spent the morning at the Indigenous People’s Sunrise Ceremony on the 50 year anniversary of the Occupation of Alcatraz,” Kaepernick tweeted on Thanksgiving day.

    “The US government has stolen over 1.5 billion acres of land from Indigenous people. Thank you to my Indigenous family, I’m with you today and always.”

  142. jason says:

    I will ask Amos Stoltzfuss if he thinks he should give his land back to the Susquehannock tribe. I know what the answer will be; the English are crazy.

  143. jason says:

    The US is 2.4 billion acres… so if you gave the Indians 1.5 billion there would still be 0.9 billion acres left.

    Oh wait, the French, Mexicans and Russians want their land back too. Not to mention the rising seas, that will claim its share…

    NYC might get his wish, I may have go back where I came from.

  144. Tina says:

    The mistress says she is non partisan.

    She wanted an investigation into trump in June of 2016.

    Referred to trump Walmart shoppers as smelly.

    She lied about editing Flynn’s 302 and was caught.

  145. Tina says:

    I think the ticket should be

    Buttplug and Joe the N word Walsh,

    The jebots would love this ticket.

  146. Phil says:

    Yes, Lisa was and is nonpartisan. Isn’t that obvious to everyone?

  147. Phil says:

    Nominating Mayor Pete doubles Immediately Trump’s share of the black vote from 8 to 16 percent. You can argue all day that black men are being homophobic but that won’t change those percentages in the general.

  148. Tina says:

    Look how Scarfarce are accusing the Rs of being Russian assets for not buying the impeachment hoax.

    Are the indies also Russian assets?

  149. Wes says:

    For a keen political observ

  150. jason says:

    For a keen political observ”

    Thanks, wes.

  151. Wes says:

    For a keen political observer, Mnw is certainly out of touch in his RRH incarnation. He’s comparing the impending appointment of Kelly Loeffler to Senate in GA to the Roy Moore debacle in AL, citing her supposedly pro-choice views.

    This of course ignores the fact that Johnny Isakson has been a largely pro-choice Republican. That may have hurt Isakson in the 1996 primary but did exactly no damage to him subsequently.

    GA Republicans are notoriously pragmatic, and there’s no evidence they prefer a Dem to someone they regard to be an impure conservative.

  152. Wes says:

    Sorry, Jason. I accidentally cut myself off and had to restart.

  153. Wes says:

    Of course Mikey is actively hoping Loeffler will be Roy Moore Gender Switch so Schumer can get another lapdog in the Senate.

  154. Wes says:

    Stocks slide after Trump announces tariffs on Brazil and Argentina.

    Tina to declare the selloff a “jebot” conspiracy in 3…2…1…

  155. Wes says:

    I guess Mnw should have done his research because the charge that Loeffler is pro choice (my position) rather than anti choice seems a tenuous one at best unsupported by actual facts:

  156. jason says:

    Mnw whined because people here objected when a deadender like Kobach threw away the KS governor’s race, because according to MNW some Rs in KS refused to support him.

    Is he refusing to support Kelly Loeffler?

  157. jason says:

    I would love to see a pro-choice R being appointed to the senate in GA. But Loeffler isn’t pro choice.

  158. Wes says:

    Of course Kobach was such a bad candidate he carried three of the state’s four CDs against a Dem whose vote Orman split and still lost by five points.

    Looks to me as if Kobach cost himself the election by failing to give voters a reason to back him.

  159. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Hey Cow, from what I see Walt works like a mule and you don’t do sh-t.”



    Awe Con’t Rare!

    I sh-t like there is no tomorrow.

  160. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Good news for Thom Tillis’ NC Senate reelection bid in 2020. Tucker did the right thing and I hope he remains in NC politics.
    NC-SEN: Tucker drops out.

  161. Charles says:

    Keep America Great!


  162. Wes says:

    I was just about to post that, Sheep. I guess Mikey is sad to know the Mikey Maneuver won’t be an option in NC to help Schumer get another vote for Majority Leader.

  163. jason says:

    There is still time for NYC to recruit another deadender. Someone that will vote his issues 100% of the time instead of only 99.4% like Tillis.

  164. jason says:

    Charles is ssq’s transgendered alternate personality.

  165. Charles says:

    Huh? Whats that supposed to mean?
    This site is 100% trash now. Yes we got a couple of good justices and tax cuts. In any sane year, we would be cruising towards a landslide win. Instead, we are going to lose. And we’ll lose to Marxists. Only the Orange Fat Man can take certain victory and turn it into a phucking disaster.


  166. Phil says:

    Yeah, let’s run Romney again. He was a winner….or clone another McCain and run him or her. Another winner.

  167. Charles says:

    Clever. Fact is that no one in the Republican party can win in 2020 besides possibly Pence. The Orange Fat Man has ensured that. We have a few wins but in the long run, we lose big time because no conservative president will be winning the White House anytime soon. The Marxists will have their way and the Republican will die. Hope you enjoyed your Orange Juice, azzholes!

  168. dblaikie says:

    179 Charles, are you a new incarnation of Wormtonge? Or are you just the average troll whose IQ is around 46?

  169. Phil says:

    My My. Seems we hit a nerve with Charles.

    I’ll go with the 46.

  170. Trump says:

    I am a fuçking moron.

  171. NYCmike says:

    Yes, yes you are.

  172. Charles says:

    I have no idea what you mean by Wormtonge. And since you want to talk about IQs, lets talk about IQs. You are the one with an IQ of 46. You think your Orange Fat Man is going to win next year? What a joke.

    How quickly we forget. Reagan took a win in 1980 and reached out to the people. He communicated and led like a true visionary. People flocked to him and he won a landslide in 1984. What has the Orange Fool done? He’s alienate everyone. He’s down to the KKK and HHR and a few friends and family. What a wasted opportunity. Best economy in decades, we should be converting people to our conservative way of thinking. Conservatism, free markets, freedom WORKS! Instead, these people are fleeing and embracing Marxism. It’s sad and it’s maddening and it’s sickening! I fought for my country and I’m watching it die.

  173. Charles says:

    #182 still cruisin’ to reelection?

  174. NYCmike says:


    You were calling for Trump to lose by how many electoral votes in 2016?

  175. Charles says:

    I wasn’t the only one, idiot. We would be better off if he lost. I said it then and I believe it now more than ever.

  176. jason says:

    Charles doesn’t believe in conservatism, free markets or freedom.

    But I will go with the IQ of 46 (on a good day).

    Another moron who can’t accept the result of the election.

  177. jason says:

    He’s down to the KKK and HHR”

    Ok, all the A-holes get points.

    The rest of you get a commendation.

  178. jason says:

    The Marxists will have their way”

    And Charles will be there on the front line helping them.

  179. Charles says:

    Charles doesn’t believe in conservatism, free markets or freedom.

    Phucking moron. You think Trump is a conservative? You think we have free trade? The Republican Party is not the party of conservatism anymore. It is the party of Populism and Nationalism. There is no conservative party. It’s Populist Nationalists vs Marxists. The Republic is collateral damage. Its really sad that you so called conservatives are the ones party to the destruction of the Republic.

  180. jason says:

    Charles using the name of Reagan is like Pelosi quoting Milton Friedman. And Charles calling himself a conservative is like Hitler calling himself a Zionist.

  181. Phil says:

    Yeah, Charles we would have been better off if Trump had lost. Democrats would have been in control of the Supreme Court 6-3.

    Yep, you’re a real conservative alright.


  182. jason says:

    Phucking moron. You think Trump is a conservative? You think we have free trade?”


  183. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @Harris_X_/@thehill Poll:
    Biden 31% (+1 since last week)
    Sanders 15% (-3)
    Warren 10% (-5)
    Buttigieg 9% (+2)
    Bloomberg 6% (+3)
    Harris 2% (-2)
    Yang 2% (-)
    Klobuchar 2% (+1)
    Castro 2% (-)
    Steyer 2% (+1)

    As it gets closer to the election, Democratic voters appear to be tuning in more, and are realizing how far left Warren and Sanders are. More “moderate” Demmocrats are gaining support, and Warren, Sanders and Harris losing it.

  184. jason says:

    I have never called Trump a conservative and nobody here has attacked his idiotic trade policy more than I have.

    So Charles, do me a favor and GFY.

  185. jason says:

    So Charles, by saying you prefer Hillary to Trump or any of the socialists to Trump we already know where you are coming from.

    Thanks for the input and now go back to whatever fetid cesspool you came from.

  186. Charles says:

    Yeah, Charles we would have been better off if Trump had lost. Democrats would have been in control of the Supreme Court 6-3.

    Yep, you’re a real conservative alright.

    Yes I am a real conservative. The 2016 election had no conservatives running in it. Phucking idiots post here.

    Hope you’re enjoying your tarrifs and protectionism.. All things you all railed AGAINST before .. remembers when we conservatives actually liked free trade? Remember that?

  187. Phil says:

    We would be better off had Trump lost because Trump isn’t 100% pure conservative.

    That’s some great logic there.

  188. Phil says:

    Charles I guess headed conservatives for Hillary 2016!

  189. Charles says:

    So Charles, by saying you prefer Hillary to Trump or any of the socialists to Trump we already know where you are coming from.

    Wrong I don’t prefer one over the other. They are both poison to our Democracy. Thighness, well no one will argue. Dear Orange Leader, he is proving every day that he will destroy Democracy.

    And who’s fault is it? Morons like you who thought it was a good idea to nominate a Populist Nationalist over some really good conservatives and gave us a choice of two poisons in the general.

  190. Phil says:

    Taxes, judges, Iran deal, climate change, Government regulation Trump is doing just fine thanks.

  191. Tina says:

    Shem Horne Retweeted

    Byron York
    Verified account

    1h1 hour ago
    One possible measure of anxiety among Resistance/NeverTrump types is the frequency with which they label fellow Americans ‘Russian assets’ or ‘Kremlin propagandists.’

  192. Tina says:

    3rd Jebot here:

    ar Orange Leader, he is proving every day that he will destroy Democracy.

  193. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Since a lot of the trolls are missing, I will have to fill in. Today I got notice from the California registrar of voters that since I am a non-party registered voter, I could chose to vote in the Democratic, American Independent or Libertarian parties primary. The Republican and Green parties do not allow non-partisan voters to participate. I chose Democratic (as usual).

    Am not sure who I will end up voting for; but if I had to vote now it would be for Buttigieg. General election still lean towards Trump.

  194. Phil says:

    Or the latest talking point, Tina. Anyone who does not Go along with impeachment is a Trump cultist. I believe that’s the newest talking point.

  195. Phil says:

    In Texas we don’t have party registration and can vote in either party primary. I believe I will pick up a Democratic ballot and also vote for Mayor Pete. He would be the weakest candidate in the general. I think it’s called strategic voting.

  196. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Was told in 2016 that Trump’s tariffs and trade restrictions on “free trade” would result in the U.S. economy tanking. How is that going? It appears instead that the Chinese economy is the one that is tanking.

  197. Tina says:

    Phil, cultist and Russian plant.

    They are back to muh Russia.

    I am sure they are really pissed because without war, they get no $$$ from military contracts.

    Just sayin’

  198. Charles says:

    Just a reminder, the market has barely budged in 2 years. Remember “slow growth” during Obama’s time, or you forgot that too? Remember how low interest rates were keeping the economy propped up? Remember that?

    Bottom is about to fall out. I’m glad my investments are in cash and gold. Rest of you can enjoy the crash.

  199. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    208. There are a lot of things I like about Buttigieg, such as the way he has challenged the socialists in the debates. If Buttigieg were to somehow get the nomination, believed the socialists would support a third party socialist candidate (who very well could be Sanders).

    As has been pointed out by Wes and others, if the Democrats focused on nominating an electable candidate, they would very likely beat Trump. Instead they have gone into an ideological civil war — it makes no logical sense, but we are experiencing an insane episode in the nation’s history.

  200. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    211. “Bottom is about to fall out.”

    Have been hearing that since 2016 from the Democrats. Even the New York Times now acknowledges we have the lowest unemployment rate in half a century, and steady economic growth (though they predict it will now slow). You going to have to sing a new song of doom.

  201. Charles says:

    Oh yeah, when it all come crashing down, it will be anybody but Orange Leader’s fault. Probably the fed, that’s who he’s blaming because they won’t go down to 0% or negative rates. What the phuck? Since when do conservatives want negative rates. Phuck you all.

    This is not the Republican party. This is not conservatism. This frankly is banana republic tactics. I know the Marxists have no problem with this, but so called conservatives calling for negative rates and protectionism? Phuck you

    And anyone with conventional conservative points is automatically ostracized.

    My country is unrecognizable.

  202. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Least we forget, at the beginning of November NBC and the Democrats were sure the impeachment hearings would doom Trump.

    “Democrats are betting the reality-TV presidency of Donald Trump will begin to short-circuit Wednesday when they start putting names and faces to the bureaucrats who collectively contend he placed his own gain above American national security interests.

    Democrats are confident enough that House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., upped the ante on the eve of his panel’s first publicly televised hearings by teasing the possibility that Trump will face impeachment on charges of bribery as well as high crimes and misdemeanors in an interview with NPR.

    “I don’t think any decision has been made on the ultimate question about whether articles of impeachment should be brought,” Schiff told the public radio network. “But on the basis of what the witnesses have had to say so far, there are any number of potentially impeachable offenses, including bribery, including high crimes and misdemeanors.”

    In other words, Democrats think they’re about to nail Trump to the wall.”

  203. Phil says:

    Bottom is fixing to fall out? That’s what Krugman has been saying ever since Trump was elected. Great company there, Charles. I guess you and Krugman are all in together in the gold market. How’s that worked out for you during the Trump administration?

  204. Charles says:

    I’m perfectly happy being in cash and gold. You’ll wish you were too.

  205. dblaikie says:

    214 All I can say is “Delta is ready when you are!”

  206. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Charles sounds like he needs a holiday trip to Bogo Pogo in the South Pacific. He and Robbie could commiserate over coconut liqueurs about the pending doom of the world. These guys can out doom even Al Gore.

  207. Wes says:

    To anyone offended by profanity on here, just scroll past what I’m about to say:

    F uck the NC courts.

  208. Charles says:

    Here’s the problem this time. Recessions happen and the people turn to the other party. Who’s the other party? Marxists and they are ready for a bigger greater newer New Deal .

    Enjoy it

  209. NYCmike says:


    Negative rates and protectionism has not been called for by Republicans at HHR. If you have seen otherwise, please copy and paste those comments.

    Yes, Tariffs have been put in place by Trump. They have been, for the most part, targeted tariffs and an attempt to get better agreements for free trade. You can disagree with the reason for doing them, but so far it hasn’t hurt the overall economy. And, it looks like they may have had some affect on China.

    Also, did you have the same strong feelings against Reagan and Dubya when they instituted tariffs?

  210. Wes says:

    You’re an idiot, Mikey.

    The Dem-dominated courts made the Assembly redraw the districts on specious state constitutional grounds to ensure Dems could gain seats.

    Do the courts in IL, MD, and MA Force their respective Legislators to redraw the egregious Dem gerrymanders in those states so Republicans can gain seats?


    This puts Republicans at -2 already in their bid to recapture the House. They start out in negative territory and have to dig out of a preexisting hole to get to 218.

    This is nothing but a Dem powergrab initiated by leftist autocrats in black robes who are overturning the district lines drawn by the constitutionally elected Assembly so as to benefit Nancy Pelosi.

    The one silver lining is that these partisan Dems masquerading as judges have outed themselves and may lose reelection because of their excesses.

    Regardless, despite the fact that Republicans got the best they could get out of this nakedly partisan powergrab, it is still the result of a despicable ruling by Dem lackeys in robes.

    As I said, f uck the NC courts.

  211. jason says:

    “He’s down to the KKK and HHR and a few friends and family.”

    So Charles moron, if that is the case, surely you can tell us of someone that could easily beat him in the primaries for the nomination.

    Who are you supporting, Walsh, Sanford or Weld?

  212. Charles says:

    Jason Schmuck, Trump will be the GOP nominee because the GOP is a Nationalist Populist party and he is their candidate. LIke I said, there is no viable conservative party anymore. Conservatism in the USA is dead. Now do you get it, azzhole?

  213. jason says:

    Jason Schmuck, Trump will be the GOP nominee because the GOP is a Nationalist Populist party and he is their candidate. ”

    Ah, so the goalposts are moving. Polls show Trump has the support of 90% of the GOP, showing that GOP voters are smarter than you are.

    I thought you said he was down to friends and family, HHR, and the KKK.

    So you are the only one who is right, everyone else is wrong.

    Gold? LOL. How has that worked out for you? If you really believe in a crash, stock up on ammunition and freeze dried food. You at least will have somethign to trade with. No, nobody will want gold.

    The rest of will continue to enjoy more record highs, even a moron like you could make money. Will it eventually go down? Sure.

    Probably with one of the socialists you want so much to replace Trump.

  214. jason says:

    Who’s the other party? Marxists and they are ready for a bigger greater newer New Deal .”

    And they sure appreciate the help of useful idiots like you.

  215. jason says:

    because the GOP is a Nationalist Populist party”

    Actually, I don’t disagree, I left the party for that reason. But that is not Trump’s doing, he is a symptom of it, not the cause.

    But to deny Trump has appointed conservative judges, lowered taxes, refused to spend trillions down the climate change rathole, implemented business friendly policies including deregulation, fostered energy independence and domestic drilling, provided some level of border security, etc. is stupid.

    But then, you are stupid.

  216. jason says:

    So Nadler’s “witnesses” are four liberal law professors.

    Each GOP questioner should start with “have you actually witnessed anything to do with this impeachment process?”


    “do you have ANY knowledge of anything to do with this impeachment process that you didn’t read in the media or see in the hearings”

  217. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #224- Wes
    I agree with your facts, observations and sentiments regarding the NC redistricting Courtmander.

  218. Charles says:

    You say “90% of the GOP” supports Trump. Well schmuck, of course they do. The GOP is a Nationalist Populist (Statist!) party and so is Trump.

    The conservatives have no party.

    Conservatism is dead in America.

    Anyone saying GOP = Conservatism is completely wrong.

  219. Charles says:

    And actually, you’re the useful idiot who the Marxists are thanking. They will be thanking Trump and all you supporters of his for turning off common sense suburban conservatives and sending the to the Dems. He will be followed by a series of Marxist presidents and the USA will become another European style socialist country.

    Cash and gold.

  220. Charles says:

    You got phucking Marxists winning in Kentucky and Louisiana of all places. And you think everything is great. What the phuck. You might want to pay attention to what’s happening in the suburbs. The GOP is reduced to a bunch of Nationalist Populists and some conservatives who don’t know really have a home anymore. This is not a good recipe, schmuck.

  221. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    AG Barr and Horowitz at odds over Horowitz’ conclusion in the IG Report about whether there wa s sufficient information for the DOJ/FBI to file for a FISA Application.
    Horowitz seems to be a loyal soldier of the Deep State.

  222. jason says:

    Charles has to be the stupidest “conservative” in the history of the Republic.

  223. jason says:

    The Marxists LOVE useful idiots like Charles.

  224. ??? says:


  225. jason says:

    The conservatives have no party.”

    Don’t worry. When the Marxists take over, I am sure they will allow you to have a party.

    They will be so grateful they will rent out a ballroom for you to celebrate.

  226. jason says:

    You got phucking Marxists winning in Kentucky and Louisiana of all places. And you think everything is great.”

    Bevan is a Paulbot moron. Bel Edwards is an incumbent first elected before Trump became President.

    I left the party because I agree most GOP voters don’t share my views. But it doesn’t mean I want a socialist president.

  227. Tina says:

    Looks like Piglosi is nervous. Time for some Botox.

    Chad Pergram
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    11) A member of Pelosi’s leadership team today told Fox that the backlog of bills up this month in the House “works against” a December impeachment vote. And the Democrat noted that impeachment “doesn’t fit the holiday spirit.” That means impeachment could wait until 2020.

  228. lisab says:

    one of the reasons china has not crushed the hong kong protests is that it would destroy their economy.

    it would immediately wipe out over a trillion dollars in just the hong kong banking sector

    that does not even include what would happen to the mainland banks and issues from countries putting trade restrictions on them

    the tarriffs have hurt them a lot. you know it is bad when the chinese wont shoot protesters

  229. lisab says:

    Why Gulags Aren’t as Bad as You Thought

    A short explanation: I know the gulags were bad to an extent. People should not be forced into labor to the extent of death nor should they be starved. That’s inhumane. I think that, in peacetime, you can do collectivized labor like that to industrialize without committing the aggressions the USSR did on the prisoners they used for labor.

    Yes, people absolutely died in mines just like they did in capitalist countries (especially if they decided to strike), except they were prisoners of a Soviet state rather than wage laborers “voluntarily” killing themselves in mines to enlargen shareholders’ profits over a mine. Let us remember, the USSR had to fight a civil war against the White Army to establish itself as a nation right after coming out of WW1 with massive losses to the population, the economy, etc. Then the Soviets had to fight to help Chinese communists gain sovereignty in the late ‘20s so they wouldn’t face invasion from the East by the White Army in China (not to mention the other constant conflicts they fought in Asia in decades prior and to come), and anticommunist movements were propping up on the USSR’s other borders and worldwide.

    They knew they’d probably eventually be invaded by Germany with the Nazis rising to power and spewing anticommunist rhetoric and threats of expansion for Lebensraum in the ’30s or ‘40s, and the 5 year plan under Stalin was brutal for that reason. They had to go from a small, backwards peasant economy to being able to compete with Germany militarily (and potentially other European countries at least economically) and so they resorted to extreme measures.

    As for the Holodomor, it wasn’t a deliberate genocide in the sense that Stalin went “reEeeEeEE private landowners/ethnic minorities >:(( time to die,” it was because of the fact that when the agriculture system collectivized and were part of the USSR ,they were requisitioned to give grain to the government to help sustain the whole USSR, and there were shortages due to a poor land use system and massive crop failures that were particular to Ukraine.

    To pin all that blame on Stalin and to insist he deliberately wanted to starve the Ukranians when they were his Western front against the Germans and when he talked about strengthening Ukraine to paint him as a madman is historically ignorant. There have been instances of countries practicing capitalism that have starved much more people and been drug out over more time.

    How many Indians were starved to augment the British Empire? There has been massive famine in India attributed to capitalist policies to withhold grain from famine-stricken areas so prices (and therefore, capitalist profits) would increase. A good source on this:

    How many slaves and sharecroppers were killed in the US to augment our agriculture? How many factory workers, including children, died or were severely injured in the Guilded Age and after to increase economic productivity?

    Is a rush to industrialize to compete with imperialist nations a peaceful process? No. Stalin knew this and he knew there would be no Soviet sovereignty if they were too weak to compete with other Western economies. The gulags declined in the ‘50s and ended officially in the ‘60s when the Soviet Union no longer saw any further use in them, and they were never intended to be a sustainable form of socialist economic practice.

  230. lisab says:

    Not to mention that only a few million people served time in gulags, over 80 percent of gulag prisoners were genuine criminals like thieves, rapists, murderers, and counter-revolutionaries. Also not to mention that the average prisoner served 8 years or less in gulags, prisoners were paid very fairly by modern day standards, and were allowed visitation rights and food and water and better labor conditions than modern prisons. The Soviet government granted amnesty to hundreds of thousands of low-crime sentence prisoners at one point, though 70 percent of them ended up back.

  231. Tina says:

    I don’t think Horowitz has purview to look at the predicate. He can only look at Fisa abuses.

    I would be careful with what the wp reported.

  232. Tina says:

    You got to be kidding?

    Joel B. Pollak
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    Democrats’ star legal witness: a professor who actually argued Trump could be impeached for “defaming” Barack Obama.

  233. Bitterlaw says:

    Just checking in. GFY.

    Stand up, Chuck!

  234. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    243. Its interesting that people who are accused of holocaust denial are thought of as completely evil. Should’t the same apply to the Ukrainian genocide under Stalin, and the millions who died in the Gulags?

    I agree with the Wall Street Journal headline from 2017: “100 Years of Communism–and 100 Million Dead: The Bolshevik plague that began in Russia was the greatest catastrophe in human history.”

  235. lisab says:

    and the millions who died in the Gulags

    the average prisoner served 8 years or less in gulags …

    for example of the 90,000 german soldiers who were captured at stalingrad only 5,000 were kept in prison for 12 years and released in 1955

  236. lisab says:

    Mike Bloomberg has instructed his third rate news organization not to investigate him or any Democrat, but to go after President Trump, only.

  237. lisab says:

    Elizabeth Warren
    ?Verified account @ewarren

    My goal is to get elected—but I plan to be the last American president to be elected by the Electoral College. I want my second term to be elected by direct vote.

  238. lisab says:

    Police in England, as well as Canada and Germany, have started arresting narwhals, charging them with islamophobia.

  239. lisab says:

    Zack Kanter

    One huge drawback of nuclear power is that it doesn’t dismantle systems of oppression – it only produces clean energy. This makes it unsuitable for solving the climate crisis, which isn’t just about the environment.

  240. lisab says:

    Jessica Yaniv

    Gynaecologists form a part of the multidisciplinary team who engage with transgender and non?binary patients, either as part of the transition stage performing surgery or managing pre? or post?transition gynaecological problems.

    So a gynaecologist office that I got referred to literally told me today that “we don’t serve transgender patients.”

    And me, being me, I’m shocked.. and confused… and hurt.

    Are they allowed to do that, legally? Isn’t that against the college practices?

    Ok so @Fraserhealth
    needs to stop hiring employees who are discriminatory towards the #LGBTQ and use their bul$hit excuses on why they can’t see you even though you have a referral from the emergency department and live in the Fraser Health area!! I want help and can’t get it!!

  241. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    249. According to William Craig in ‘Enemy at the gates’, over 500,000 Axis (German, Hungarian, Romanian and Italian) soldiers were captured throughout the entire Stalingrad campaign (including the 91,000 captured at the end of the battle). More than 400,000 of these perished within the 3-month period from February, March to April 1943.

    The causes of death were manifold.

    Some were simply too weak and too malnourished when they were captured. Nothing could be done to help these.
    Diseases, mostly typhus, typhoid, diphtheria and dysentery swept, the PoWs’ ranks.
    Many PoWs were simply shot to death by Soviet guards. This phenomenon was confirmed in Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev’s memoirs published after the war. Khrushchev had served as the political commissar of the Stalingrad Front during the ferocious battle in 1942–43 so we have to assume he knew what he was talking about.
    A lot more were starved to death. At many camps such as Tambov, Susdal and Vladimir, Soviet trucks only arrived once every three days delivering rotten cabbage, frozen bread and even garbage for the PoWs to eat. The bad food was certainly not enough to help them survive the bitter winter cold and prisoners often beat each other to death for tiny scraps. Many, however, never reached PoWs camps as they were starved to death in trains where they only received teensy bits of food once every two days.
    Many were worked to death. Some were put to work retrieving boats and crafts sunk by the German airforce (Luftwaffe) and Army during the battle. One Russian shipyard manager was so shaken by the number of prisoners who died on this work that he swore his daughter to secrecy before telling her about it. Other prisoners had to work to rebuild Stalingrad itself. Soviet Foreign Minister and Politburo member V. M. Molotov once declared that no German prisoners would see their homes until Stalingrad had been rebuilt. At night, despite the biting cold, these slave laborers had to stay in roofless remains of buildings and their Soviet guards, not without a sense of irony, were quick to remind them that it was their mighty Luftwaffe that destroyed these buildings only months before.
    At first, the Soviets thought they had neither the resource nor – more importantly – the inclination to take care of these defeated Fascist invaders of the Motherland. As time went by, however, they realized that Stalingrad was their greatest and most heavily-propagandized victory, they had bragged to the entire world about the staggering number of divisions destroyed and PoWs taken captive. If none of these PoWs survived their camps, that would reflect kind of bad on the Soviet Union’s image. Therefore by May 1943, they began to treat the PoWs better, which was the only reason why 6,000 prisoners lived to return home after the war.

  242. lisab says:

    “More than 400,000 of these perished within the 3-month period from February, March to April 1943.”

    so you agree that on average they spent less than 8 years in the gulag

  243. lisab says:

    #254 i should perhaps clarify

    Jessica Yaniv,

    the woman who wants to go to the gynecologist

    has a penis and was born with one

  244. lisab says:

    jessica: dr. lisab, i am having issues with my vajayjay

    dr lisab: well go ahead and put your feet up in the stirrups and we will take a look

    (sees jessica has a penis)

    dr. lisab: well … there’s your problem …

  245. lisab says:

    Trump just signed a bill making animal cruelty punishable by up to seven years in prison.

    democrats oppose

  246. jason says:

    lisab, read “One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn for a great perspective on what Gulags were like.

  247. jason says:

    The gynecologist should examine him/her/it and give him/her/it the good news.

    You don’t have cervical or ovarian cancer.

    That will be $400, pls reschedule with the nurse for another check-up in 6 months.

  248. jason says:

    Charles seems dumber than the average troll here.

    Not an easy feat. Let’s make sure we recognize him when we give out our year end awards.

  249. jason says:

    democrats oppose”

    Someone suggested Trump come out for impeachment so the Dems can immediately oppose it.

  250. jason says:

    In Appeal to Hard Left, Bloomberg Praises Chinese Communism.”

    You got to do what you got to do….

  251. dblaikie says:

    Wes that is good news. It leaves me with two questions. The first is I wonder what percentage James will get of African American vote? The second question how many of those will split their ticket and vote GOP for Senator but Democrat for President?

  252. Wobbles says:

    Trash that poll.

    Doesn’t fit my narrative.


    Btw, here in Bogo Pogo it is 95 degrees and sunny.

  253. jason says:

    One huge drawback of nuclear power is that it doesn’t dismantle systems of oppression – it only produces clean energy. This makes it unsuitable for solving the climate crisis, which isn’t just about the environment.”

    Any solution that doesn’t impose Marxism is not an acceptable solution.

  254. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Comedienne Betty White has passed at 97. Her happy attitude was contagious. RIP

  255. jason says:

    I don’t think Horowitz has purview to look at the predicate.”

    This is why I come here.

    Supreme erudition.

  256. lisab says:

    read “One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn for a great perspective on what Gulags were like.

    do we really need to read a long boring book to know gulags were bad?

    did we learn nothing from footloose?

  257. lisab says:

    Kamala Harris Forced To Rely On Prison Labor For Struggling Campaign

    U.S.—Kamala Harris, California’s most famous cop, is reportedly watching her campaign completely unravel; she is plunging in the polls, and her aides are resigning. Unable to find anyone to work for her (and anyone she can afford), Harris has turned to something she has always relied on in the past: prison labor.

    “Using prison labor just shows how resourceful I am,” Harris said as she monitored a man in an orange jumpsuit and shackles stuffing envelopes. “Prison labor is great. It’s like slave labor in that they have no choice, but legal!”

    Many of those working for Harris despise her — which makes it similar to her previous situation — but now they are unable to resign. “If you didn’t want to work on my campaign,” Harris said in a pep talk, “you shouldn’t have smoked marijuana.”

  258. Wes says:

    Rest well, Betty White.

  259. NYCmike says:

    Betty White, enjoy an endless supply of Snicker bars! GODspeed!

  260. jason says:

    do we really need to read a long boring book to know gulags were bad?”

    Actually it is quite short and fascinating.

  261. CG says:

    Fake news!

    Betty White is alive.

    However, Kamala Harris’s Presidential campaign has passed on.

  262. jason says:

    Phil’s pick for the Dem nominee is out, RIP.

    On the other hand my pick, Mayor Butt, is alive and kicking.

  263. jason says:

    Wikipedia still has Betty White as alive.

    We know they are never wrong.

  264. jason says:

    Maybe Bernie can appoint her as AG if he wins.

  265. CG says:

    The Democrats should nominate Betty White for President.

    She is about the right age. The animal rights people would be all for her. Her will to live and online rumors of her death rival RBG. She is a national treasure and would likely beat Trump in a landslide.

    NYC would have to embrace, “It’s ok to be White.”

  266. jason says:

    I think Corey has a great idea.

    But in the interest of bi-partisanship, she should pick Trump as VP.

    That way she will get 100% of the vote.

  267. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Kamala Harris is ending her presidential campaign.

  268. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    271. “read “One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” by Alexandr Solzhenitsyn for a great perspective on what Gulags were like.
    do we really need to read a long boring book to know gulags were bad?”

    Its actually a pretty short.

  269. Wes says:

    Damn racist, sexist Democrats don’t want a black woman in the White House:

  270. lisab says:

    soooooooooo …

    we are down to the two moderates warren and sanders


    the two conservatives buttigieg and biden


    the uber right winger bloomberg

    we are gonna need more popcorn!

  271. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

    Sayonara Kamala. Back to arresting children and sleeping with other women’s husbands

  272. jason says:

    We should be thankful there are not more Dems like this guy.

    Rep. Jeff Van Drew (D-NJ) sat down with USA Today to discuss, among other topics, the impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump’s dealings with the Ukrainian government.

    The congressman expressed a sentiment that more and more Americans seem to share: Trump’s behavior in relation to Ukraine and potential investigations into former Vice President Joe Biden’s son might not have been handled perfectly, but his overall conduct does not rise to the level of impeachment. As the inquiry proceeds in Congress, it is becoming more apparent that a declining number of Americans still support an attempt to remove Trump from office.

    “While he considers the president’s actions on Ukraine ‘unsavory,’ the congressman said he has yet to learn of anything that would persuade him Trump did something to warrant removal from office,” USA Today’s Ledyard King wrote. “No president has ever been removed from office, Van Drew, 66, points out. And to have a ‘small, elite group’ of lawmakers do so when an election is less than a year away seems to him to be not only unfathomable but un-American.”

    He continued, explaining that he dislikes Trump’s “rudeness,” but also saying that his “job isn’t really to like or dislike him.” He went on to say that his job “is to exact as much goodwill and help for my district and for this nation and for this world that I possibly can while he’s president.”

  273. jason says:

    Let the excuses begin, you can count at least five in one paragraph…

    “Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-HI) has been credited – even by some Harris aides – of accelerating her decline, which is a claim that has some merit, considering Gabbard’s torching of Harris’ criminal justice reform record at the second debate in late July. Her supporters and fans, and even other candidates, are also blaming her campaign’s freefall on “sexism”, her being a WOC, and the fact that she can’t compete with “billionaire candidates.”

  274. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

    It would be magical if the Democrats’ 2020 candidate is an old, straight, white, Republican billionaire

  275. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

    (and male)

  276. Hugh says:

    As lying Adam shiff prattles on I can almost hear the cash flowing into trump and the rnc. I’m so sick of that csjdydgd succker

  277. Tina says:

    Keep cutting them.

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  278. Tina says:

    Soviet Schifftys report represents the work of a basement blogger.

    – Press sec

  279. Tina says:

    No Kamala out. Nuisance was coming to campaign for her.

    First the skateboarder and now Giggles?

  280. Tina says:

    Schiffty. The president subverted foreign policy.

    No constitutional expert is he.

    The president embodies foreign policy.

  281. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Harris was the political tool of tech special interests. All she had to do was chirp progressive values (like tech does) and then once elected quietly preserve tech’s privileged position of paying almost no taxes and importing cheap Asian labor. Her hypocrisy shined, and her candidacy bombed.

    Here is how Harris rose in California politics:

    “By the time Harris ran for the Senate, she could count on massive support from Bay Area law firms, real-estate developers, and Hollywood. More important, she appealed, early on, to tech mavens such as Facebook’s Sheryl Sandberg and Sean Parker, Marc Benioff of Salesforce, Yahoo’s Marissa Mayer, venture capitalist John Doerr, Steve Jobs’s widow Laurene Powell, and various executives at tech firms such as Airbnb, Google, and Nest, who have collectively poured money into her campaigns. Their investment was not ill-considered. Harris seems a sure bet for the tech leaders. Her husband, attorney Doug Emhoff, was a managing partner with Venable Partners, whose clients include Microsoft, Apple, Verizon, and trade associations opposing strict Internet regulations.
    This year, Harris keynoted the Joint Venture Silicon Valley conference, and she is once again reaping large donations from tech and media giants. As the most significant California candidate in the race, she has a big advantage in harvesting the lion’s share of these riches: California donors collectively contributed over $500 million to the 2016 campaign. The largest benefactors so far to Harris’s 2020 campaign include employees at Alphabet (the parent of Google)—including its former chairman, Eric Schmidt—Cisco, and Apple, as well as many prominent media and entertainment interests. For these companies, with few non-Asian minorities or women in senior positions, and some executives implicated in #MeToo infractions, Harris offers a low-impact way to connect to contemporary progressive concerns.”

  282. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

    TV ad spending by 2020 Democrats (thru 12/3)
    Steyer: $63.4 million
    Bloomberg: $37 million
    Sanders: $6.7 million
    Buttigieg: $5.1 million
    Yang: $2.9 million
    Biden: $1.7 million
    Klobuchar: $1.3 million
    Bennet: $1 million
    Gabbard: $1 million
    Warren: $926k
    Delaney: $662k
    Harris: $576k

  283. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Texas General Election:

    Trump 45% (+1) Biden 44%
    Trump 46% (+5) Warren 41%

    No results for other candidates
    @Beacon_Research / Democratic Policy Institute Poll

  284. dblaikie says:

    As I have posted several times, Adam Schiff is a blessing to the GOP.

    On another matter Harris officially began her campaign today for the Vice Presidential nomination. Only trouble is the only place she is liked is California.

  285. NYCmike says:

    I would think Klobuchar is more likely VP than Harris. Harris is just not likable.

  286. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    299. “Only trouble is the only place she is liked is California.”

    Harris is not liked in California either. She had only 7% support in the state according to polls, and most Californians wanted her to withdraw. From the Los Angeles Times:

    “Sen. Kamala Harris’ decision to drop out of the 2020 presidential race came as a new poll showed a majority of California Democrats wanted Harris to exit the race.

    The poll, conducted by the Berkeley Institute of Governmental Studies for The Times, showed that by 61% to 24%, likely Democratic primary voters in California thought Harris should quit the race.

    A large majority of Harris’s own supporters wanted her to stay in the race, but her support in the state had steadily slipped, and she was the first choice of only 7% of the state’s Democratic primary voters, according to the poll, which was conducted Nov. 21-27.”

    Powerful business and tech special interests in California keep control by supporting “woke” candidates who they know will focus their progressive rhetoric, excessive taxes, and regulatory zeal on the middle class and mainstream businesses, while leaving the elites alone. Billionaires who shelter their money and manufacture their products off-shore at low wages are immune from the far leftist policies advocated by the candidates they support in California.

  287. Wes says:

    I find it interesting despite her woke progressive values, Kamala Harris is married to a white man.

  288. Tina says:

    I am hitting the limoncello

    Governor Nuissance was supposed to help her in Iowa. He was heading out there. No concern about the high gas prices and storms. Then she quits. And you know the jebots and the ahoy gang wanted her.

    It’s very sad. First the skateboarder and now her. Who is next?

  289. lisab says:

    klobuchar is not liked either

    although i guess most people dont know her outside of minnesota

    she is known to be mean to her staffers

  290. Big Joe says:

    The road to the final 4 continues. Two new national polls show Biden hanging tough. I don’t see a path for Bloomberg as he’s skipping the first 4 states. Rudy strategy does not work.

    Big Joe

  291. Wes says:

    RRHers are now complaining because Kelly Loeffler donates—only to Republicans. I guess donors who don’t give to Christine O’Donnell and Dick the Misogynist Bastard Mourdock aren’t pure enough for these clowns.

  292. Wes says:

    I mean, I guess if Dave Perdue, Elise Stefanik, Johnny Isakson, and Jerry Moran get money from a donor, that contributor may as well go the Mikey route and support Chuck Schumer.

  293. Big Joe says:

    The upcoming senate appointment has been big news here in GA lately. GA Gov Kemp really seems to want someone who will appeal to minorities and suburbanites. The Trump wing wants Collins.

    A Loeffler appointment would likely mean a primary challenge from the Trump wing next year. Ironically, just last year, it was Kemp vs Cagle in the GOP primary with Kemp being the Trump-like candidate and Cagle being a conventional Republican.

    Also, Karen Handel made a play for the seat which went nowhere (not surprising). She obviously made the calculation that the GA state-wide electorate would be friendlier than the GA-6 electorate.

    Big Joe

  294. Wes says:

    Karen Handel is a weak, underwhelming candidate who fundraisers poorly and managed to lose a seat no Republican had lost since Ford was President.

    No wonder Kemp overlooked her.

  295. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil is a great poster. His pick of Harris getting the nomination because she won the identity politics lottery – black and female – was wrong. Both can be true.

  296. jason says:

    Here we go.. you have to love the MSM. Lobbyist “close to Trump” indicted for illegal contributions to Hillary.

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

    “A lobbyist known for his ties to the inner circle of President Donald Trump has been indicted on campaign finance charges for allegedly using straw donors to conceal contributions to Trump’s 2016 rival, Hillary Clinton, the Justice Department revealed on Tuesday.

    The lobbyist, George Nader, a Lebanese-American businessman, has acted as an informal conduit between Trump’s top advisers and various Middle Eastern interests. He also served as a witness in special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into election interference.

    The Justice Department refers only to an unidentified 2016 presidential candidate, but campaign finance records make clear that the candidate was Clinton.

    Nader embarked on the scheme in a bid to gain influence in Clinton’s circle while reporting to a foreign official, according to the Justice Department.”

  297. jason says:


    “He is well-known on the air waves as “Bo Snerdley,” the senior producer for Rush Limbaugh’s daily talk radio show, heard by an audience of 14 million. His real name is James Golden, however — and he is now on a mission to “make Black Americans Republican again.”

    With fellow black conservative Autry Pruitt, Mr. Golden has founded New Journey PAC, a political action committee which promotes conservative values among black Americans — and everyone else for that matter. The organization includes MAGA.BLACK, a new online destination for one and all, they say.

    “For 80 years, the Democratic Party has taken the black vote for granted. Under the leadership of President Trump, Black-Americans enjoyed the lowest unemployment rate ever recorded. The Trump approach has produced an economy that works for all Americans, yet Democrats are promising more of the same — votes for crumbs. It is simply not enough to stand on the sidelines and hope for the best,” the two founders say in their mission statement.

  298. jason says:

    You have to love the MSM.

    Drudge has headline “51% of FL voters disapprove of Trump”. That is also the headline of The Hill article on the poll.

    But then when you read it you see approval went from 40 to 45 and disapproval from 55 to 51 from their last poll.

  299. Phil says:

    Drudge is a lost cause. Not sure why he has felt the need to jump in and reinforce the Trump hating MSM. Did he think they needed his help? The whole thing is just plain weird.

  300. jason says:

    One of the professors is not going to be part of the charade.

    “President Trump will not be our last president and what we leave in the wake of this scandal will shape our democracy for generations to come,” Turley plans to say. “I am concerned about lowering impeachment standards to fit a paucity of evidence and an abundance of anger.”

    He added: “If the House proceeds solely on the Ukrainian allegations, this impeachment would stand out among modern impeachments as the shortest proceeding, with the thinnest evidentiary record, and the narrowest grounds ever used to impeach a president.”

    “If we are to impeach a president for only the third time in our history, we will need to rise above this age of rage and genuinely engage in a civil and substantive discussion,” he said.

  301. Wes says:

    Drudge wanted Trump to destroy the eeeeeeeeeeeevil GOP “Establishment.” Of course as President, Trump is the epicenter of the eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeevil “Establishment.”

    Once Trump decided to act like what a GOP President should be, Drudge turned on him.

  302. Tina says:

    Nader is a pedo and he is a lobbyist for Hillary and used by a witness by Mulehead. Mulehead loves pedos.

    He is one of 8 arrested by the Fib yesterday with ties to Hillary.

    One could re write the news as the “walls are closing in on Hillary.”

    We may hear from the jebots later.

  303. VictrC says:

    Wes, you hit the nail on the head. Drudge is, and always has been, a Paulbot. Like all the other losers he pushed Trump in the primaries after /Rand Paul predictably flamed out because he thought Trump would cause the most damage to the GOP and they would then be able to set the direction of the party, which for them centers around Weed and anti-semitism.

    When that didn’t happen, and when his approval with GOP members rose to 90+% he turned. Problem is, the Pauliacs have no savior. Gary Johnson is gone, Rand is never advancing in politics, heck their savior now is the American hating, rabid anti-Semite Amash.

  304. Phil says:

    Drudge may not like what fills the void if he and his new MSM friends succeed in taking down Trump in 2020. Will he be happy with a leftist in the WH? On the other hand, maybe he will. Rush seems ok with giving Trump a pass by attributing it to Drudge just wanting clicks. Problem with that is Drudge’s traffic is down something like 15 percent in the last three months. Drudge can do whatever he wants, but conservatives like me don’t need to give him clicks. If I want to hear or read Orangeman bad I can just turn on CNN, NBC, CBS or read the Washing to Post blah blah blah.

  305. Tina says:

    Yesterday, he did 125 minutes of bilateral pressers. Now, he may not doing a presser today and Un msm are not happy

    Bret Baier
    Verified account

    2h2 hours ago
    Bret Baier Retweeted Zeke Miller
    To be fair -he’s answered more questions from reporters than we’ve seen any President answer at any summit or conference – essentially answering all of the q’s at every bilat meeting. Even frustrating other world leaders – as evidenced by the Trudeau gaggle caught on cam

  306. Phil says:

    Rush giving Drude a pass I meant to say.

  307. jason says:

    Bernie Sander’s surrogate Linda Sarsour.

    Translation: if you support Israel, you must be a white supremacist.

    “How can you be against white supremacy in the United States of America and the idea of living in a supremacist state based on race and class, but then you support a state like Israel that is built on supremacy?”

  308. Paul says:

    Robbie has been gone for quite awhile. He always livened up this place a little.

  309. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

    Does Polaris still show up for elections or am I dating myself?

  310. jason says:

    “Robbie has been gone for quite awhile. He always livened up this place a little.”

    Translation: Paul needs someone to come up with left wing talking points so he can agree with them.

  311. Poul Harris says:

    I will be here.

    – Poul Harris

  312. mnw says:


    That’s also a college poll of 500 “respondents,” which I take to mean any adult who would answer the pollster’s questions. Certainly not “registered voters,” or they would’ve stated that.

    RAS is 49/50 today, btw.

  313. jason says:

    Whatever, I am not disputing the poll results. My point is the headline is written so as to imply Trump’s approval in FL is going down, when in fact the poll shows the opposite.

  314. jason says:

    I don’t have the stomach for the hearings, but I am glancing at a live blog.

    Evidently the female far left professor is yelling at everybody?

  315. jason says:

    She donated $1000 to Elizabeth Warren in July.

  316. Phil says:

    Yeah, the far left woman is really a piece of work. what a loon. She indeed is yelling. Very annoying. We have it on in the den and after listening to her my wife told me to go to the computer and send another hundred to the Trump campaign. I suspect Trump’s fund raising is quite brisk today, and will be throughout this entire process.

  317. dblaikie says:

    I have to wonder what the ratings will be for this agonizing hearing? I must say that Jonathan Turley hands down would be the Professor who could hold your attention for an hour lecture. As a public speaker I liked the way he set down the predicate that he didn’t support Trump but then went on to trash the whole proceeding. The others, particularly the guy from Chapel Hill, were dry, boring and partisan. But not even Turley’s eloquence will be able to hold Americans from switching this debacle off out of sheer boredom.

  318. jason says:

    Kangaroo Court?

    “The refusal of Democrat counsel to ask Professor Turley questions, keeping him silent and only allowing three far left professors to answer questions about impeachment is a perfect example of academic group think and quashing discussion of different ideas.”

  319. VictrC says:

    Jason, you are 100% correct. The three leftists are only allowed to talk, not even when the other professor has a salient point.

    I mean, is this serious? You have liberal college professors saying there should be impeachment when they have absolutely no role at all in the event that is supposed to be impeachable.

    And now she is saying it will kill the country if political opponents use events like this (what Trump supposedly do) to thwart democracy!!!

    Hypocrit – they are using the impeachment process to overturn a duly elected President and cancel out 65,000,000 votes

  320. Phil says:

    I sent the $100. Happy wife, happy life.

  321. VictrC says:

    So Democrats, asking other Democrats who has no knowledge of the situation, if Trump should be impeached, who affirm that Trump should be impeached, is now enough to be impeached.

    It is absolutely absurd, and they can not even see how wrong they are. They have been trying to find a crime since the day he was elected, and in absence of a crime, still decided that they had to remove Trump from office because they don’t like him and believe Americans were wrong by electing Trump and they need to be taught a lesson.

    This is typical Liberal philosophy. The rest of the people are not smart enough to know whats good for them, so we need to step in and fix their mistakes.

  322. dblaikie says:

    Once again Trump Derangement Syndrome strikes. This dummies can’t see that they are making Turley look like the only one who is non-partisan. The Dems are in process of making Turley both the star and the victim of this charade.

  323. Hugh says:

    I refuse to watch this charade. The dems are too stupid to understand that by trying so hard to script the process they are so obviously being unfair that if they had a good point no one will pay attention but their partisan base. That was a perfect run on sentence

  324. jason says:

    Very good:

    “The French parliament approved on Tuesday a resolution that recognizes and condemns anti-Zionism as a form of antisemitism.”

    The caveat is that it was approved 154 -72, which means most of the 577 members did not vote or abstained.

  325. jason says:

    The Rs and the R counsel should only ask questions to Turley, what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

  326. jason says:

    Willie Nelson, 86, says he’s no longer smoking marijuana due to breathing issues.”

    Maybe he should start drinking.

  327. jason says:

    Prof. Turley: “Even if the ‘official act’ were clear, any bribery case would collapse on the current lack of evidence of a corrupt intent.”

    I feel sorry for Turley.

    He is trying to argue legal precepts at a kangaroo court.

  328. Wes says:

    I believe Franz Kafka wrote a book about something similar to what the Dems are trying here. Orson Welles and Anthony Perkins starred in the brilliant film version:

    “Kafkaesque” is not too strong a word for this charade.

  329. Wes says:

    One would think Trump is Peter Lorre’s character from M the way the Dems are trying to railroad him

  330. Wes says:

    On another note, at RRH, Mnw has become a Collins fanboy and declared the fact that Loeffler plans to spend $20 million on the race a good talking point for Collins.

    I highly suspect Mnw has done little research into Georgia politics and his promulgation yesterday of the lie that Loeffler is pro choice.

  331. Tina says:

    Why does every leftist woman look like Purfessor Karla?

    All have the same hair style and glasses.

    Purfessor can run for office and conduct foreign policy as she chooses.

  332. Tina says:

    Turley just destroyed the soviets, who want to use going to the court as an obstruction.

    Mark Meadows
    Verified account

    16m16 minutes ago
    Jonathan Turley, not a Trump supporter, looks at Democrats and delivers one of the most powerful quotes of the hearing so far:

    “If you make a high crime and misdemeanor out of going to the courts, it is an abuse of power. It’s YOUR abuse of power.”

  333. Tina says:

    Rep Andy Biggs
    “If you were going to make a case to George Washington that you could impeach over a conversation that he had with another head of state, his hair – his powdered hair – would catch on fire.” – Jonathan Turley

  334. Hugh says:

    Sounds like turley May lose his cnn gig

  335. jason says:

    Yahoo headline:

    Witness steals spotlight”

    Yep, you guessed it, Karlan

  336. jason says:

    Even Chris Wallace slamming the Dems for not asking Turley questions.

    “Dems not searching for justice or wisdom”

  337. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    President Trump’s Approval:

    Economist/YouGov Approve 46%, Disapprove 52%
    Rasmussen Approve 49%, Disapprove 50%

    After weeks of Democratic attacks during the Impeachment hearings, Trump’s poll numbers continue to hold.

  338. Tina says:

    One of the Drat “experts” says that bribery is defined in the constitution.

    I think he needs to re read it.

  339. Tina says:

    Purfessor Karlan also attacked trumps son, baron.

    What a pos she is.

    Charlie Kirk
    Verified account

    Follow Follow @charliekirk11
    This is all you need to know about Democrats’ “Star Witness” Pamela Karlan

    She hates Trump so much that she has to cross the street to avoid walking by any of his hotels

    This is the “fair, unbiased” expert making the case for impeaching Trump?

  340. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

    Noah Feldman looks like he was stuffed into a lot of trash cans back in grade school

  341. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Since the two leading Democratic candidates are approaching 80 years of age, and one has recently had a serious heart attack (past age 65 the chance of him dying in eight years is between 50-66%), there needs to be a reality check.

    “But feel free to question Sanders’ capacity to judge the status of his own health—if only because he does. “I must confess, I was dumb,” Sanders said on Tuesday. “I, in the last month or two, just was more fatigued than I usually have been. And I should have listened to those symptoms.”
    Now that Sanders is listening to his symptoms, he should let us eavesdrop, too, or at least get a full readout of his health from his doctors so his supporters can glean a stronger sense of whether he’ll survive his potential term in office or whether his health will trigger 25th Amendment action should heart disease strike him again.
    Sanders isn’t the only elderly presidential candidate who needs to answer the public’s questions about his health. Joe Biden, who will be 78 on the next Inauguration Day, has suffered two brain aneurysms and is given to rambling when answering questions or giving speeches. Donald Trump, who will be 74 on Inauguration Day, has been opaque about his health, as the Washington Post editorial board complained in 2018.
    But for the time being, Sanders remains the leading candidate for increased medical scrutiny. He’s old and getting older, and we all know where that goes. He’s a sick man. But we don’t know how sick and he refuses to tell.
    Perhaps the most damning thing about Sanders’ behavior over the past week is that it gives us a preview of how he might behave should illness strike him after he takes the presidential oath. Would he and his people deflect questions, postpone disclosure, and then blame the press for making a big deal about his health?
    I’d like to say Bernie Sanders is better than that. I will, too, but first he must give me a good reason to do so.”

  342. jason says:

    Tina, according to the Marxists, the Constitution is a “living document”.

  343. jason says:

    Bernie seems less senile than Biden.

    I am thinking of sending him a check.

  344. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Speaking of health issues, where is the Concerned Troll?

    This should be the climatic moment for him — Trump finally gets impeached by Congress. For over three years Concerned Troll has anticipated this moment. He should be blathering the board with “I told you so” and that Trump is evil and is about to get his just deserts (and is also lousy golfer). Instead he has gone missing. Have evil doers done Concerned Troll in? Someone needs to check if Guiliani made an unscheduled visit to Bogo Pogo.

  345. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    361. Considering Bernie’s radical views, it would be better if Bernie was more senile than Biden.

  346. Tina says:

    Ususalky, said concerned troll is busy flying to England.

  347. jason says:

    Georgia Senate appointee Kelly Loeffler: I’m pro-life, pro-military, pro-wall and pro-Trump”

    Sorry, that won’t be enough for the deadenders.

  348. jason says:

    Considering Bernie’s radical views, it would be better if Bernie was more senile than Biden.”

    Don’t be fooled by the “Biden is more moderate” BS.

    There would be very little difference in what they could actually get through Congress and by executive order.

  349. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag only shows up when he sees some “gotcha” left wing talking point.

    But I am sure he considers Turley, a registered Dem who did not vote for Trump, some kind of white supremacist Trumpist robot.

  350. dblaikie says:

    Matt Gaetz just tore them apart in the chamber. It was a great pass the popcorn moment.

  351. NYCmike says:

    -Billed as a substitute to Drudge…….3….2….1…..until Bongino is called a Paulbot……….??

  352. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #368- db
    Here is the link to the Gaetz/ Karlan exchange. THAT WOMAN is insufferable!

  353. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Here is a Melania Trump tweet about the Karlan dig at Baron Trump:

    “A minor child deserves privacy and should be kept out of politics. Pamela Karlan, you should be ashamed of your very angry and obviously biased public pandering, and using a child to do it.”

  354. DW says:

    Update on the status of the 29 communists who want to take away your remaining freedoms:

    1 – Biden: 27.8
    2 – Sanders: 15.6
    3 – Warren: 14.2
    4 – Buttigieg: 11.4
    5 – Bloomberg: 4
    6 – Yang: 2.6
    7 – Klobuchar : 2.4
    8 – Booker: 2
    9 – Castro: 1.4
    10 – Steyer: 1.4
    11 – Gabbard: 1
    12 – Bennet: 1
    13 – Williamson: 0.4
    14 – Delaney: 0.4
    15 – Patrick: 0.4
    16 – Harris: Dropped out
    17 – Bullock: Dropped out
    18 – Sestak: Dropped out
    19 – Messam : Dropped out
    20 – O’Rourke : Dropped out
    21 – Ryan: Dropped out
    22 – de Blasio : Dropped out
    23 – Gillibrand: Dropped out
    24 – Hickenlooper: Dropped out
    25 – Inslee: Dropped out
    26 – Moulton: Dropped out
    27 – Gravel: Dropped out
    28 – Swalwell: Dropped out
    29 – Ojeda: Dropped out

  355. DW says:

    So Bloomberg spent 57 million so far, and is up to 4% in the polls. He might even do as well as Jeb!

  356. NYCmike says:

    Between him and Steyer, JEB!2016 will turn back into the conservative who governed Florida!

  357. NYCmike says:

    “him” = Bloomberg

  358. CG says:

    Forget all about the conventions this summer…

    Motley Crue/Def Leppard/Poison/Joan Jett Stadium Tour!

  359. Tina says:

    Matt gates destroyed professor beotch.

    Crude that she targeted his 13 year old s9n.

  360. Tina says:

    This has to be the worst day for the impeachment hoaxers.

    Nobody will listen to a mean Purfessor and unconstitutional experts, excluding Turley.

    Turley is not boring to listen to.

    Another good point too many people are working and have no time for hoaxes.

  361. Tina says:

    Barr needs to quit this sheot.

    John Solomon

    35m35 minutes ago
    Adam Schiff arbitrarily releases my phone records as a 1st Amendment protected reporter. State Department bureaucrats reportedly monitored my social media. A witness gratuitously drags a 13-year-old boy into impeachment. Whatever happened to civil liberties, privacy and decency?

  362. Tina says:

    Where is Botoxic?

    M.Joseph Sheppard

    4h4 hours ago
    December Trump Approval Aggregate 46% LV/RV

    Rasmussen 49%
    Economist 46% +2
    YouGov 45%

  363. Tina says:

    133 replies 4,215 retweets 5,574 likes
    Reply 133 Retweet 4.2K Like 5.6K

    Jack Posobiec ??
    Verified account

    3m3 minutes ago
    Pamela Karlan is a great reminder of who is educating your children inside colleges

  364. Tina says:

    So, the left rules are as follow:

    Don’t attack Camera Hogg, don’t attack crack Rock Biden, and don’t attack Greta Thunberg.

    Do attack Baron trump and the Covington kids.

  365. Tina says:

    What a loon.

    Chad Pergram
    Verified account

    Follow Follow @ChadPergram
    Stanford prof Pamela Karlan: I want to apologize for what I said earlier about the president’s son. It was wrong of me to do that. I wish the president would apologize, obviously, for the things that he has done that’s wrong but I do regret having said that.
    3:29 PM – 4 Dec 2019

  366. Victrc says:

    How about that for an apology/non-apology


    Doesn’t this truly expose her as a partisan hack. This is who they get to testify, someone who has a preconceived notion about the President? How is this a credible witness at something that is as important as overturning the will of the American people through an impeachment of a sitting President.

  367. Phil says:

    Boy that Professor Karlan a real riot. She is sooooo clever and funny. The Barron joke didn’t exactly help her case, but I bet it kills on the DC cocktail party circuit. Yuk Yuk No doubt she now has an invitation to the next Georgetown dinner party at Peggy Noonan’s house.

  368. VictrC says:

    Even the premise of the joke exposes her. When has Donald Trump claimed to be a King? Why would a witness at an impeachment hearing bring up Donald Trump thinking he’s a king and using that as a Segway to joke about his son who is a minor.

    Again, I ask, how is this a credible witness in an impeachment hearing.

  369. Phil says:

    It just made her look petty and small, but I’m sure it killed in the faculty lounge.

  370. Victrc says:

    Further evidence of the partisan bias of the Democrats ster witness. I ask again, how was this woman brought I. To testify in an impeachment hearing and why should we remove a President based on anything she says?

    “The rich, pampered, prodigal, sanctimonious, incurious, white, straight sons of the powerful do pretty well everywhere in the world, and they always have.

    “But what about us? Snarky, bisexual, Jewish women who want the freedom to say what we think, read what we want, and love who we do.”

  371. Phil says:

    Nothing is more persuasive than a leftist lawyer yelling at you for eight hours.

  372. Scooterboy says:

    Finding a winner among the Democrat primary candidates, is like trying to find a tootsie roll in a septic tank.

  373. Tina says:

    Hopefully, there is a criminal referral formNoah Feldman.

    He lied to Congress about not wanting impeachment until now.

    He is a leftist lunatic that wrote sharia law is superior to our law.

  374. NYCmike says:

    #391 – “CG” didn’t say anything about him, so he must be ok.

  375. jason says:

    -Billed as a substitute to Drudge…….3….2….1…..until Bongino is called a Paulbot……….??”

    Didn’t know Bongino was a Paulbot… I will take NYC’s word for it.

  376. lisab says:

    Drudge is, and always has been, a Paulbot. Like all the other losers he pushed Trump in the primaries after /Rand Paul predictably flamed out because he thought Trump would cause the most damage to the GOP and they would then be able to set the direction of the party

    i knew the gop was ripe for an outsider, i thought it was going to be rand paul who would lead a rebellion against bush and change the direction of the party

    i did not think trump would run

  377. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    National @ChangePolls/ @ElectionScience Poll:
    Warren 23%
    Sanders 23%
    Biden 22%
    Buttigieg 14%
    Yang 4%
    Klobuchar/Gabbard 2%
    Booker/Castro/Bloomberg/Patrick/Bennet/Williamson 1%

    Change since their last poll in Sep:
    Warren -6
    Sanders +1
    Biden +3
    Buttigieg +5
    Yang +2

  378. VictrC says:

    Alls quiet on the western front this morning.

  379. dblaikie says:

    Well folks here we go. It is a tragedy that the Democratic Congress is putting our Country through this bogus exercise. But now that we are here. I would like to say that I believe that today was the day when Donald Trump won reelection for a second term — baring some unforeseen bombshell that Trump is really a Russian asset or something like that. Today the Democrats put their majority at grave risk.

    For me, the only reason why the Democrats would do this is because their candidates are so terrible. At least now during the campaign Warren, Uncle Joe, Sanders, and Pete can say, “Look he was impeached. You can’t vote for him!”

    So now that we are sadly at this point, bring on the Senate Trial. Put Roberts in his fancy robe and lets go! Even though this is a tragic day for our democracy, as Jonathon Turley said it is the Congress who is abusing its power and that is sad for us all. So with sorrow in my heart when this goes to Senate, I say pass the popcorn.

  380. Phil says:

    I’m still in awe of the absolute comedy genius of Professor Karlan. What a delightful and clever sense of humor this lady has. Her charm and wit is bound to have moved the needle on public opinion with regard to impeachment. LOL

    Nothing says compelling and persuasive like testimony for ten hours with a stick up your butt.

  381. BayernFan says:

    DC!!! lol

  382. jason says:

    i knew the gop was ripe for an outsider, i thought it was going to be rand paul who would lead a rebellion ”

    So did Bunu.

    But I always said that would never happen. Rand Paul is a mini-me of the real thing Ron Paul, and Ron Paul never got more than 10% of the GOP primary vote. That is because his hatred of the military and Israel, his disgusting blow back theory blaming the US for 9/11 and terrorism, his addiction to pork barrel spending, etc. had littel appeal outside the Paulbot faction of the GOP.

    And of course, neither one of them are outsiders. They are opportunists scamming the system and using the GOP to get elected under false pretenses, nothing more “insider” than that.

    Trump of course, IS an outsider, at least to the GOP. A Democrat most of his life, big contributor to Democrats and a record of supporting Democratic economic policies, the AFL-CIO agenda, abortion, big government, socialized healthcare, amnesty, etc.

    Outsider certainly fits.

  383. jason says:

    littel? Spell check is on vacation.

  384. jason says:

    Maybe Amoral Scumbag will get his wish for a brokered convention.

    But it will the Dem convention, not the GOP.

    I think is entirely possible that Biden, Sanders, Mayor Butt, Warren and maybe even Bloomberg will split the delegates so that none has a majority before the convention.

    In that case, Jeb might have a chance.

  385. jason says:

    16 – Harris: Dropped out
    17 – Bullock: Dropped out
    18 – Sestak: Dropped out
    19 – Messam : Dropped out
    20 – O’Rourke : Dropped out
    21 – Ryan: Dropped out
    22 – de Blasio : Dropped out
    23 – Gillibrand: Dropped out
    24 – Hickenlooper: Dropped out
    25 – Inslee: Dropped out
    26 – Moulton: Dropped out
    27 – Gravel: Dropped out
    28 – Swalwell: Dropped out
    29 – Ojeda: Dropped out

    I have outlasted all of these candidates.

    Who wouda thunk?

  386. jason says:

    Biden says he won’t testify in the Senate trial.

    I am sure CNN will call it “obstruction” in 3, 2, 1….

  387. Phil says:

    Texas Democrats are frantic to get Beto to run for the senate. Filing deadline is In three days.

    John Cornyn isn’t Ted Cruz and Beto knows it. On the other hand, Beto LOVES the spotlight and I’m sure he’s tempted to run and have the National left slobber all over him again. He’d lose and knows it but he’s such an egomaniac the lure of the campaign trail might just be too much for him. Born to run, baby. Born to run.

  388. VictrC says:

    Phil. Agreed. He made an ass of himself on the presidential stage. Last time no one here knew any of his positions, he was just a guy who was young cool with a co-opted Latino name.

    Now we know he’s a gun grabbing Irishman. No need to look past that one policy for him to be a big loser here, even with centrist (LOL) dems. Best he’d do against Cornyn would be 55-45, and I don’t think it would be that close.

  389. Phil says:

    8-10 pts. Beto would still raise a lot of Hollywood money and that’s a good thing. It’s leftist money down a rat hole that will be diverted from possibly winnable races. Run Beto, Run.

  390. Phil says:

    So Nancy says draft the articles of impeachment and full speed ahead.

    Reminds me of the final scene in the movie Thelma and Louise where the girls decide to gun the engine as they approach the cliff.

    Love it.

  391. jason says:

    I think Turley hit the nail on the head yesterday when he said this would open a horrible precedent.

    Even IF impeachment was good for Trump, I would still prefer it didn’t happen.

    Basically, as Turley says, you are impeaching a President because “you don’t like the guy”.

    We are becoming a banana republic.

  392. jason says:

    I agree. When Beto ran against Cruz, he was saying if you own an AR-15 you can keep it.

    Now he wants to confiscate them.

    He won’t sell as well the second time around.

  393. jason says:

    It is a measure on how deluded the Dems are if they think a woman on record as saying she has to cross the street so she doesn’t have to walk in front of a Trump hotel is a credible witness on impeachment.

  394. mnw says:


    May we have some more impeachment, please?

  395. VictrC says:

    What would be amazing is if Trump finally dug down deep and found a way to act Presidential during impeachment. Lay off the snark, limit the name calling, just stick to facts and even ignore it altogether.

    That would send his approval rating higher than ever and ensure re-election.

    He won’t, but we can dream.

  396. Phil says:

    yes. More More More!

  397. jason says:


    “This has absolutely nothing to do with politics,” she said.

  398. Phil says:

    Nope, it’s about the Constitution!!

    I’m sure the 5 Democrats who won in 10 pt plus Trump districts and that won by less than a point like SC 1, NM-2, and SC-1 are absolutely thrilled today.

    So long guys!

  399. jason says:

    Comment on Twitchy:

    “They should just vote to impeach him for defeating Hillary and get it over with.”

  400. Messy says:

    410, 413, etc. The Democrats have some astoundingly good prosecutors in the caucus, and Schiff has managed two previous impeachments.

    This will destroy Trump.

    410. Turley has argued that a Federal Judge stealing money isn’t impeachable. He also said in his testimony the subpoenas would take merely a couple of weeks. No.

  401. jason says:

    What would be amazing is if Trump finally dug down deep and found a way to act Presidential during impeachment. Lay off the snark, limit the name calling, just stick to facts and even ignore it altogether. ”

    I used to believe that, but my thinking on it has evolved somewhat.

    I am convinced that if Trump had not engaged in his war with the corrupt MSM, his Presidency would have been toast long ago.

    I disagree with some of his tweets and statement, don’t get me wrong, many of them have been self-defeating.

    But I don’t disagree with his overall strategy of giving as good as he gets.

  402. jason says:

    This will destroy Trump.”

    So Messy, do you want to make a bet on whether Trump is acquitted or not.

    How about $1000?

    If you win, I will send a check to the charity of your choice.

    If I win, you send a check to the York Co PA ASPCA.

    To make it interesting, you can have 2-1 odds.

    If Trump is convicted your charity gets $2000.


  403. Phil says:

    Yes, Messy. Schiff is a genius. You are right. He will destroy Trump.

  404. BayernFan says:

    so he should have remained silent like GWB did and just absorbed the attacks from the media?

    Trump didn’t start a war with the media…… they attacked HIM.

    He responds. Bigly. Effectively.

    Everyone knows this is a charade.

  405. jason says:

    Messy Moron missed Turley’s best statement of the day:

    Jonathan Turley tells lawmakers if they impeach Trump, ‘It’s your abuse of power’

  406. jason says:

    Btw, Turley was the only non-biased person on the panel.

    He is a registered Democrat and he didn’t vote for Trump.

  407. jason says:

    The other 3 are big contributors to Hillary, Obama, Warren and completely partisan.

    If they had any integrity, they would have recused themselves.

  408. Phil says:

    Jason, not only was Turley persuasive, unlike the other three smug witnesses he was actually likeable.

  409. BayernFan says:

    Trump fighting back the way he does is the reason he was nominated by rank and file GOP voters.

    It is the reason those voters came out of the woodwork to elect him.

    Who is he fighting back against? That alone should make you cheer him on and join him.

    All those idiots….Pelosi, Schiff, the media, those moron “scholars”….. Romney, Sasse, etc etc

    they deserve all the chit and mocking that comes their way.

    Trump will win this. Bigly.

    And next year, too.

    Don’t get all weak kneed and wobbly and think that being “nice” is gonna get us anywhere with these jerks.

    Phuq em.

  410. jason says:

    aetz: Thanks, I appreciate your testimony. Professor Karlan, you gave a thousand bucks to Elizabeth Warren, right?

    Karlan: I believe so.

    Gaetz: You gave twelve hundred bucks to Barack Obama?

    Karlan: I have no reason to question that.

    Gaetz: You gave two thousand bucks to Hillary Clinton?

    Karlan: That’s correct.

  411. jason says:


    “This has absolutely nothing to do with politics,” she said.

    This is like Hitler making a speech outside the gates of Auschwitz:

    “This has nothing to do with anti-Semitism”

  412. BayernFan says:

    Seriously, which Dem is gonna beat Trump?

    Biden? lol

    Warren? C’mon

    Pete…. nope

    Sanders? oh ok.

    Trump is presidential next to those morons.



    Trump has been eating pompous self important bozos like that for lunch his whole life.

  413. jason says:

    Gaetz: Well, those aren’t the only folks you’ve been giving to. Have you ever been on a podcast called “Versus Trump”?

    Karlan: I think I was on a live panel that the people who ran the podcast called it “Versus Trump.”

    Gaetz: Do you remember saying the following. “Liberals tend to cluster more. Conservatives – especially very conservative people – tend to spread out more, perhaps because they don’t even want to be around themselves.” Did you say that?

    Karlan: Yes, I did.

  414. Victrx says:

    Bayern et al

    Y’all are right. I did get a bit weak knees and wanted to appeal to the mushy suburbanites who will probably never vote for him anyway

    You’re also right that it was time for a fighter. For someone to give it back after GWB laid down and took it time after time

    That’s why they want to impeach him. They can’t stand that he fights back

    I think this seals WI maybe Mi. I don’t know about PA but I think maybe it does bring into play some other close states. NH? They can’t like this in the live free or die state.

    And what about Schiff getting phone records of other congressmen without warrants. This should scare every single American about the kind of state that would come from the left being in power.

  415. jason says:

    Gaetz: Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Feldman wrote articles entitled, “Trump’s Wiretap Tweets Raise Risk of Impeachment.” He then wrote, “Mar a Lago Ad Belongs in Impeachment File,” and then Mr. Flanagan (opinion) wrote that, “A Harvard Law Professor Thinks that Trump Could be Impeached over Fake News Accusations.” My question, Professor Feldman, is since you seem to believe that the basis for impeachment is even broader than the basis that my Democrat colleagues have laid forward, do you believe you’re outside of the political mainstream on the question of impeachment?”

  416. jason says:

    I wonder if Feldman thinks saying “if you like your doctor you can keep him” and “if you like your plan you can keep it”? is impeachable?

  417. jason says:

    I think Biden could be competitive against Trump.

    I think Trump wins 40 states against Sanders.

    That is why my candidate is Sanders.

    Sue me.

  418. Phil says:

    Move begins by students to pressure George Washington University to terminate Turley. No, I’m not making this up.

    These people are nuts.

  419. BayernFan says:

    The ONLY Dem candidate that could beat Trump is Tulsi Gabbard. She is smart, populist, tough, and likable. You can see her as commander in chief.

    Other than that, no chance.

    Biden would melt as his dementia and Parkinson’s become more and more obvious.

  420. Wes says:

    Messy the Moron says Schiff managed two previous impeachments.

    Let’s see.

    Schiff entered Congress on 1-3-2001. That was almost a full two years after the only other presidential impeachment since Schiff has been alive.


  421. BayernFan says:

    I think Hillary will run, btw. How is HER health these days? What more will come out about Epstein?

  422. jason says:

    I think Trump gets 45% of the vote in CA against Sanders.

  423. jason says:

    “Biden would melt as his dementia and Parkinson’s become more and more obvious.”

    So that is why I think he has the highest risk/reward for the Dems.

    I think he has the best chance of the viable candidates, I am assuming Bloomberg and Gabbard are not viable.

    He also has the highest risk of self destructing.

  424. jason says:

    I don’t think Hillary will run.

    Maybe the Dems would draft her in a brokered convention if her poll numbers looked good.

    Her problem is that 60% + of voters see her as corrupt. That hasn’t changed.

  425. BayernFan says:

    Look…the Dems are FREAKING about the fact that Trump is polling well among blacks. If they don’t turnout, and/or vote more for Trump than they have for GOP candidates in the past, they will have a hard time winning Michigan and Pennsylvania, Florida, Wisconsin, etc.

    Lots of blacks (especially men) like Trump for policy, AND he talks chit. Don’t underestimate Kanye either.

    So they don’t want Pete, Warren, or Sanders. Dems told Deval Patrick to get in. Dems are worried about no blacks in the debates.

    They are worried.

    They’d rather run against President Pence.

    They don’t want to risk not only losing, but also losing their monopoly on black voters in elections to come. They think Pence would stop that possibility, and get things back to “normal”.

  426. Tina says:

    I also heart Schiff.


  427. Tina says:

    Speaking of mentally unfit anybody catch Botoxics prese!

  428. jason says:

    Do you really think the Dems think the Senate will convict Trump?

    This is all charade and Kabuki Theater.

    The objective was to try to use smoke and mirrors to get Republicans worried enough to try to get Trump to resign.

    It was a gamble that probably won’t pay off.

  429. jason says:

    Pelosi calls McConnell a “rogue Senate leader”?


    Dang, too bad he isn’t an A-hole, it would be worth some points.

  430. Wes says:

    I guess Pelosi wasn’t paying attention when Harry Reid was Senate Majority Leader.

  431. dblaikie says:

    This is just breaking from Paul Sperry. It turns out that another FBI lawyer will be referred for prosecution in the IG’s report. It all goes to show it will be best to wait for the report to come out before folks start droning that the report is a whitewash. Here is the tweet: BREAKING: “A second Comey FBI agent in addition to FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith will be cited for misconduct in the Russia “collusion” probe, making it more implausible that their supervisor Strzok was unaware of their conduct and that they were rogue agents operating on their own.”

  432. Scooterboy says:

    Biden calls an Iowa voter a liar during a Town Hall today. Pass the popcorn.

  433. Messy says:

    A christmans gift for all of you:

  434. jason says:

    So Messy, do we have a bet?

    Surely Trump will be removed from office, after all there is sooooo much evidence.

  435. jason says:

    Messy is giving out garbage for Xmas?

    How un-Christian!

  436. jason says:

    Messy the Moron says Schiff managed two previous impeachments.

    Let’s see.

    Schiff entered Congress on 1-3-2001. That was almost a full two years after the only other presidential impeachment since Schiff has been alive.”

    Rumor has it Schiff was twice seen in peach, but he has since retired that shirt.

  437. Tina says:

    Botoxic also called trump illegitimate

    She is either too stupid for pushing this or gears that she will be replaced by the Aoc types

  438. Messy says:

    455. Judges Thomas Porteous and Samuel B. Kent for bribery and sexual assault respectively. Who’s the moron now?

  439. jason says:

    A Xmas present for Messy Moron, who said the fake dossier was “corroborated”.

    “The Justice Department’s inspector general has concluded that the FBI omitted crucial details in its requests for warrants to surveil Trump campaign associate Carter Page, saying the agency neglected to mention that some of the information the warrant applications were based on was shaky.

    Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s yet unpublished draft report found that the FBI did not inform the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court that the controversial Steele dossier, cited in applications to spy on Page, was unreliable, according to the Washington Post.”

  440. jason says:

    Judges Thomas Porteous and Samuel B. Kent for bribery and sexual assault respectively”

    Judges? LOL

    Messy Moron will bring out Schiff’s perfect attendance certificate in 3rd grade next?

  441. Victrc says:

    Love or hate ted Cruz it’s going to be awesome seeing him question Schiff, Taylor, the fired ambassador, the whistleblower etc

  442. jason says:

    Yes, I will enjoy grandstanding Ted destroy Schiff.

  443. Wes says:

    Messy the Moron is desperate. He’s comparing bribery and sexual assault to a phone call.

  444. jason says:

    Portheous was a Louisiana district court judge impeached by a 423-0 vote in the House and 96-0.

    Schiff was one of the 4 managers of the trial.

    Rumor is that without Schiff’s stellar involvement, the vote would have been 422-0 in the House and 95-0 in the Senate.

  445. jason says:

    Has Messy transgendered?

  446. jason says:

    Wes, it was obviously a tough case to prove.

    But Schiff came through, it looks like Portheous would have been acquitted had not Schiff cried during the trial.

  447. jason says:

    Thankfully nobody will listen to him.

    Andrew Yang: “Not a single Republican has given any indication that they’re in fact-finding mode. They’re all in defend-the-president mode. You need literally dozens of Republican senators to switch sides when the trial starts, which we’ve gotten zero indication is going to happen. The more this drags on, the more danger there is of two things: Number one, Donald Trump comes out of this and is vindicated, totally exonerated. Number two, we are wasting precious time where we should be creating a positive vision that Americans are excited about solving the problems that got Donald Trump elected, and beat him in 2020. If all that happens is all of the Democrats are talking about impeachment that fails, then it seems like there is no vision. It seems like all we can do is throw ineffective rocks at Donald Trump, and then it ends up leading unfortunately toward his re-election.”

  448. Scooterboy says:

    Wes, do you see the Dems in real jeopardy of losing the majority due to their insistence on pushing forward with this impeachment fiasco?
    My opinion is that they have backed themselves into a corner that they can’t get out of. If they drop impeachment, their base will crucify them. If they carry on with impeachment, they will end up looking like idiots when the Senate trial shows this was all just political Hackery by the Dems. Those 31 House Dems in districts carried by Trump have got to be asking themselves, “what the hell are we doing “.
    Sorry if you’ve already discussed this at length here, I haven’t been around much. Still working hard with my defense team to clear my good name in the case that Kim is trying to bring against me.
    Thanks to Jason.

  449. NYCmike says:

    Wes DECLARED on the day after the election in Nov 2018 that Trump would lose the 2020 election.

  450. NYCmike says:

    -Robbie and “CG” may use this as another reason to not vote for the presumptive Republican candidate for President in 2020.

  451. VictrC says:

    If Trump is re-elected and the Dems hold the house I am willing to wager a small sum that he becomes the first President ever impeached twice (at least, they may try again if they gain the Senate in 2022 as well).

    they will not stop until they remove him.

    The problem is does anyone actually think this would be any different if Pence were President? If someone else had defeated Hillary in 2016. They same exact thing would be happening, and will happen to every Republican President going forward.

  452. CG says:

    The presumptive 2020 Republican nominee for President is not worthy to a Deputy Sewer Commissioner in the swampiest town in America.

    And you boys seem to be in quite a bubble in terms of the potential politics of all this.

  453. CG says:

    Yes, I think it would be different. Nobody else is Donald Trump.

    However, Ted Cruz would probably be quite unlikable still as President too.

    Anybody else would be able to take advantage of a decent economy and would be pretty well approved of and a solid favorite headed into a reelection year.

    Hopefully, our future Presidents, of whichever party they might be, will be nothing like Donald Trump.

  454. CG says:

    Now, had Hillary won, would she have been impeached by now? (for something likely from before becoming President)

    Probably, and with the strong support of the people here, although there probably would not have been enough votes to convict her in the Senate.

  455. jason says:

    Corey only comes here to repeat Democrat talking points but we are in a “bubble”.


  456. CG says:

    Democrats and Republicans both have pretty lousy talking points these days. I speak for myself.

    What I would like to see is any evidence whatsoever that an impeachment vote is likely to imperil any number of House Democrats. Yes, some might vote against it or at least against some of the Articles, but the data shows that the only people really “angry” about Donald Trump being impeached are his core base and they aren’t voting for those Democrats anyway.

  457. jason says:

    The problem is does anyone actually think this would be any different if Pence were President? If someone else had defeated Hillary in 2016. They same exact thing would be happening, and will happen to every Republican President going forward.”

    Of course it would be, that is what the Never Trumper morons refuse to admit.

    It was never about Trump.

  458. Tina says:

    Maybe we can impeach the ex president that used the irs to go after conservatives, lied about Benghazi, and did pallets for cash.

    Said president also begged the Russians for flexibility.

  459. CG says:

    If any other President, at any time, of any party, had done what Trump did on the “perfect” phone call, they would have already been forced to resign from office.

    Hopefully, the lesson of all of this is that no President will ever do it again.

    Maybe I am being too optimistic though. The excuses and justifications of Bill Clinton’s illegal and immoral behavior as President and the partisan defense of him by his party, merely normalized this entire situation to an effect.

    All the more reason why it is important to take a stand now against a scumbag like Trump.

  460. Tina says:

    When do we get the arguments from
    The jebots and the ahoy gang that surveillance is not spying.

  461. Tina says:

    Yes he needs to resign for doing nuffin.

    Bring on impeachment britches.

  462. Tina says:

    I can see Schiffty being called to the stand

    Why are you photographed with pedos

    What is your relationship to Ed buck.

    Why did you illegally obtainphone contacts from the president and a member of Congress.

    How many times did you meet with gossip blower.

    How much $$$ did you get from the ukranian arms dealer.

    Yes bring it.

  463. Hugh says:

    If trump is re-elected take it to the bank the gop will take house easily. Independents who vote for trump will not vote for the person who tried to impeach trump. If the dem does not vote for impeachment enough of the nutjobs will sit home and again the dem loses. The crazy left has doomed their party for 2020

  464. Tina says:

    Mark Meadows
    Amidst all the impeachment noise… a new Economist/YouGov poll out yesterday asked registered voters: “Are you better off now than you were four years ago?”

    Yes – 50%
    No – 32%

  465. dblaikie says:

    If the DOJ report was a nothing burger Pelosi wouldn’t have scheduled an impeachment hearing. But she has. I have a sense that this report is going to begin as a nothing burger but as people begin to read the 500 pages it is going to get worse and worse. It seems that right as of now, there is already two criminal referrals for FBI Attorney’s. Wouldn’t be surprised at all if that number goes up.

  466. dblaikie says:

    An impeachment hearing for Monday. Going out on a rather strong limb, I bet the deeply Catholic, pro late term abortion Speaker will make sure there is another hearing on Wednesday.

  467. Phil says:

    Yeah, WE are the ones in a bubble.


    The three “experts” from academia yesterday looked like they were very reflective of public opinion……found in the faculty lounge. Their testimony was absolutely a game changer.

    Really, that’s the best judiciary committee Democrats could come up with in the way of witnesses? Seriously? I’m sure Cunningham in SC-1 and Horn in Ok-5 now feel great about voting to impeach. Nancy to members – “walk that plank, b*tches”

  468. CG says:

    As I said, a few Democrats will vote no. We will see who. Their votes will not be needed.

    Trump will be impeached in the House.

    I just see zero evidence that House Democrats who might vote yes are going to suddenly lose their seats. I think the Dem majority is such that it would be highly unlikely they lose the majority in 2020 regardless of if Trump is reelected or not.

    The people who have to worry about this most politically at the moment are likely Susan Collins, Cory Gardner, and Republican Senators in states where Trump is not popular.

    House districts, by and large, tend to already be pretty polarized ideologically.

  469. CG says:

    And I think Doug Jones (unless he gets to face Roy Moore) is gone one way or another anyway most likely in AL. He will likely vote to convict.

  470. CG says:

    Kendra Horn specifically is someone who was a “fluke winner” who faces an uphill battle completely irregardless of any of this impeachment business.

    So, Republicans will probably take her seat, however she votes too, but there is a long way to go from knocking her off and winning 218 seats, especially with all the GOP retirements.

  471. Waingro says:

    Uh oh:

    Verified account

    Follow Follow @bennyjohnson

    Democrat Jeff Van Drew says he plans to vote against all the articles of impeachment “unless there’s something that I haven’t seen, haven’t heard before.”

  472. Phil says:

    Small NM-2 can now be added to Cunningham, and Horn as one of Pelosi’s sacrificial lambs.

    Gardner is the same dead man walking as Jones. He’s a no.

    Hillary lost WV by 42 pts. Manchin is an obvious no.

  473. Waingro says:

    #491, Phil: are these just your predictions, or are you getting this info from somewhere?

  474. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Bill Clinton had some of his highest poll numbers when he was being impeached. The same may be happening with Trump. He is at 52% in Rasmussen; higher than his usual level of support in that poll.

  475. Phil says:

    All Republicans in the House will vote no. Half a dozen Democrats will join them.

    Impeachment will pass the House. I’m all for it. Outside of making Ana Navarro feel good about herself I’m not sure the point.

    There is no chance a single Republican votes to convict in the Senate. Add Manchin and probably Jones at a minimum and that’s 45 votes for conviction – not even close to even a majority and 22 short of conviction. Hell, that’s not even as many no votes as Clinton got in 98.

    but yeah, Nancy. Full speed ahead, baby.

  476. Waingro says:

    #494, I think Sinema is the real wild card. The libs already kind of hate her now anyway and she would still have almost 5 years left on her term.

  477. CG says:

    I feel sorry for those who feel like they have to live and die on the Rasmussen Rollercoaster. Seems to be a clear pattern. Trump will be down to 46% there in a few days and it won’t get mentioned. Then it inches back up and goes back down. It’s the same ride. Take it for what you will.

    The only other daily tracking poll appears to be MSN, which has been at it for a few months now. They have about 41-43 every day. Not great numbers for an incumbent seeking reelection.

    Clinton, when he was justifiably impeached was not seeking reelection, but the American people did oppose his impeachment. It still needed to be done.

    All indications are that a slight majority, not an overwhelming majority, but a slight majority, of American voters think Trump should be impeached and removed from office. So, that’s a pretty bad place to start. I do not think it is going to serve him well as a candidate.

    The people who thought Republicans would survive the VA Governor election of 2017 and thought the 2018 midterms would be much better than they were and thought that KY and LA were in the bag for Republicans should be a bit more mindful that there are a ton of people who simply want to get rid of Trump.

    Now, to be fair, the Democrats have a ton of problems themselves and are likely to have a flawed nominee, so no outcome is written in stone. Let’s just be clear about that, but Trump is *not* in a good place politically and neither is his party with him at the helm.

  478. CG says:

    Justin Amash is certainly going to vote to impeach Trump in the House.

    Predictions are just a game at this point, but I feel pretty confident that Romney, Collins, and Murkowski will vote to convict. There may be other Republicans, but that’s hard to see at the moment.

    All Democrats will vote to convict with the possible exception of Manchin. He will be a wildcard.

    We can see in due course who turned out to be correct.

  479. Phil says:

    Waingrow, Small, Horn, and Cunningham are all from Trump plus 10 districts and all won by a point or less. They are not going to cut their own throats. Van Drew from NJ is an announced no. He’s in a R+6 district and thinks a no gives him a shot at reelection. He may be right. Peterson is from a Trump plus 30 district in Minn and didn’t even vote for the impeachment inquiry to begin with. There are probably a couple of other defections from R+6 or R+7 districts who will try and save themselves. In any event that won’t be a good look for Democrats. Well, Nancy said she wanted a bipartisan vote. She is going to get one although not the kind she wanted.

    The senate is a foregone conclusion. Trump is acquitted overwhelmingly and raises tens of millions of campaign bucks in the process.

  480. CG says:

    His “getting away with it” will raise a lot more money too.

    Face it. The Trump “haters” are larger and more numerous and more motivated that the Trump “lovers.”

    This election ought to be a slam dunk for Democrats, but they are dealing with a myriad of their own issues that could bite them them in the end in a pretty dramatic way.

    Still, they have a clearer path as of now than Trump does to be sure, and deep down I think people here know that. It’s just tough to own up to.

  481. Phil says:

    Manchin is not wildcard, but dream on. I suppose there is always a chance Murkowski could defect. I doubt it seriously.

    Romney and Collins won’t vote to convict.

  482. CG says:

    I should point out that while only a “slight majority” (say 50-53% of Americans think Trump should be removed from office via impeachment), a whole lot more than that think that what Trump did was not a “perfect” phone call.

    But Trump will keep insisting it is.

    The House will vote. The Senate will vote. Ultimately, America will vote. The first two are easier to predict.

  483. CG says:

    I’m often right on these things Phil. You were quite certain about Kamala I recall.

    Time will tell. You can tell me I am wrong if I wind up being wrong, but I will get to do the same.

  484. Phil says:

    How about a little wager on Manchin. Pick your favorite charity.

  485. Hugh says:

    499. Really?? On what basis

  486. dblaikie says:

    Romney and Collins will not vote to convict. Believe it or not there are Republicans in Maine and sense Independents are against Impeachment Collins is a no. Romney will not vote yes in the end. Murkowski would like to vote yes, but she won’t. She will only push the GOP base so far in Alaska.

    You do have it right, Manchin will vote no. It is an easy vote for him since the issue is not in doubt. Jones if wants to have any chance needs to vote no. And Krysten Sinema in Arizona is on the fence right now.

    By the way Cory, do you remember what Trump’s percentage of the vote was in 2016? The answer is 46%. Right now the RCP average is at 44%. Seems to be a decent number to me.

  487. CG says:

    Small wager only. As I said, he’s a “wildcard.” Let’s revisit right before the trial starts.

  488. CG says:

    I’m not Cory. (One of the reasons I switched to CG), but whatever…

    Will 46% be enough this time? Quite a tightrope.

    AS I said, it is not for certain he loses, but he is the underdog. There is a chance he loses substantially.

    Gotta go.

  489. Phil says:

    Any of your facorite charities except Planned Parenthood.

  490. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    #California @UCBerkeley/@latimes Poll (11/21-27):
    Sanders 24%
    Warren 22%
    Biden 14%
    Buttigieg 12%
    Harris 7%
    Steyer 1%

    There is a 15% threshold for a candidate to be awarded delegates in California. Biden may not meet it. Believe Buttigieg support is rising, so will get over 15%.

  491. CG says:

    I’ve been Pro-Life since I was a child Phil.

    Have you been?

  492. Phil says:

    Your thought on those numbers, SDC? Do they sound about right to you? I’m a little surprised at Biden’s low number. What is the percentage of blacks that generally vote in the Democratic primaries?

  493. dblaikie says:

    Sorry your leaving. Trump is an underdog only in your mind. Go watch the tape of Uncle Joe today. He is your front runner. Say what you want about Trump, but he gets stuff done. Good economy. Well you all know the list. If anything 46% will be more than enough. Take out California and the North East and Trump is probably 6 or 7 points in front.

  494. Phil says:

    Pro life here.

  495. Tina says:

    its Been a horrible two days for the drats.

    So bad that the ny fat pad fell asleep.

    Professor nasty Imploded.

    The other expert lied and hopefully a criminal referal,is sent.

    And Piglosi imploded today,

  496. Tina says:

    China Biden is bleeding so many states.

    Every time he is Iowa he implodes.

  497. Tina says:

    Andrew Clark
    · 5h
    In just one event, Joe Biden:

    ? Called a voter “fat” and “jack.”

    ? Said he was Vice President in 1976.

    ? Told voters in Iowa that they were all in Ohio.

  498. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    511. “Your thought on those numbers, SDC?”

    I believe they sound about right. I have always questioned whether Biden had a constituency in California, and was surprised at the polls that showed him higher. The black population of California is only about 5%.

    Believe Sanders may carry California, and Warren will do well. But Buttigieg might also be a top finisher. Some leftist friends of mine have turned solidly against Warren — one refers to her now as “Mommie Dearest”.

  499. Phil says:

    Thanks, SD.

    Hmm, I thought the black population of California was larger hence I believed Biden would be stronger there. At 14% of the total vote he must not have a lot of Hispanic support in California.

  500. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is a poll from October 2019 that showed Biden was getting about 30% of the black vote in California.

    African-Americans in California tend to be more independent than in other states. In several past mayor’s races in San Diego black voters actually supported the Republican candidate, a former police chief, over the trendy coastal liberal Democrat.
    Change Research California Poll: October 15-October 18, 2019

    Key Takeaways: ??

    Elizabeth Warren (28%), Bernie Sanders (24%), and Joe Biden (19%) lead among Democratic primary voters in California after the October Democratic primary debate.

    Sanders leads among 18-34 year-old voters and 35-49 year-old voters;
    Warren leads among 50-64 year old voters and 65 years and older voters.
    Biden (30%) has a 10-point lead over Sanders (20%) among black voters,
    while Warren has a strong lead among white voters with 34%, followed by Sanders (21%) and Biden (16%).
    US Senator from California and former California Attorney General Kamala Harris has 8% of support in her home state.

  501. jason says:

    Corey predicted there would R votes for the impeachment inquiry.

    There were none.

    I predict zero R votes in the House and zero R votes in the Senate.

    Yes, I don’t even think scumbag Romney will vote to convict.

    He knows there is no case for impeachment and even though he would love to have the MSM herald him as the only R vote to convict I think its a bridge to far even for him.

    But I could be wrong, I have been very wrong about Romney before. I used to think he had some integrity.

  502. jason says:

    If any other President, at any time, of any party, had done what Trump did on the “perfect” phone call, they would have already been forced to resign from office.

    Hopefully, the lesson of all of this is that no President will ever do it again.”

    Drivel. These conversations are held by EVERY President hundreds of times during their terms.

    There was NOTHING wrong with that conversation, but of course Corey knows that.

    And the proof is in the pudding, the Dems have come up with all these “witnesses” and the whole kangaroo court charade exactly because they know the conversation was completely innocuous. If the conversation was in any way impeachable they wouldn’t need the circus.

  503. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Barack Obama just bought a seafront Martha’s Vineyard mansion for $11.75 million. It sits close to sea level, and according to those concerned about climate change, it will be underwater in the not too distance future. Al Gore bought beachfront property near Santa Barbara in California several years ago. And we are supposed to take these prophets of sea level rise doom seriously?

  504. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    521. Oh give them some slack. After Mueller bombed out with his report, the Democrats only had a matter of months to create a new narrative to drive Trump from office. So you have to use the mystery whistle blower, and witnesses who were told that somebody heard Trump say so-so on the telephone to another person. It does not matter if the person who was actually on the telephone says that it did not happen.

    By the way, there is a reason the concerned troll has disappeared. He may be the mystery whistle blower.

  505. NYCmike says:

    “CG” is pro-life…….yet wants the Democrat to defeat Trump…….looks like we changed the meaning of “pro-life” here at HHR.

    CALL THE PRINTER, we need a new dictionary again, and I can’t even get the Jason-discount on this one!

  506. NYCmike says:

    “If any other President, at any time, of any party, had done what Trump did on the “perfect” phone call, they would have already been forced to resign from office.”

    -Still haven’t seen the law that Trump broke on that phone call.

    It’s illegal for a President to want to make sure there isn’t state-sanctioned corruption going on which may affect how United States foreign policy is carried out? Who knew?

  507. Bitterlaw says:

    To sum up. People who hate Trump think impeachment is great. People who support Trump think that impeachment is a joke and completely unjustified.

    As for the alleged Independents, has anybody considered that some of them (or more than some), May support impeachment just so they will never have to hear about Trump again?

  508. jason says:

    “Minnesota Rep. Collin Peterson, the other Democrat who also opposed the inquiry, said this when I asked if he’d vote to impeach: “I don’t have an idea what they’re doing.” And he walked on the floor.”

  509. NYCmike says:



    What did Trump do that was illegal? What did he do that was a high crime and misdemeanor?

  510. jason says:

    As for the alleged Independents, has anybody considered that some of them (or more than some), May support impeachment just so they will never have to hear about Trump again?”

    Don’t think so.

    I think the vast majority of Indies know Trump is not going anywhere.

    In fact, most Democrats probably know that too.

    So that is not the criteria for whether people support or don’t support impeachment.

  511. Victrc says:

    That mansion, the book deals, the speaking engagements are exactly the reason why Michelle Obama won’t run. If she runs the money stops flowing. No more $11.5m mansions for them until after office as Barack won’t be able to charge for speeches as the First Lady…I mean first husband.

  512. jason says:

    People who support Trump think that impeachment is a joke and completely unjustified.”

    You missed Turley’s testimony yesterday.

    He is a Dem who didn’t vote for Trump.

  513. Victrc says:

    That guy in the video was awesome. We need to that more to these pithy people who think there are no repercussions for their actions.

    Little leftist was going to the bathroom in his pants when the guy got up to take him outside and see if he was man enough to tell him to get out again!

  514. jason says:

    Justin Amash is certainly going to vote to impeach Trump in the House.”

    Wow, Corey really has some strange bedfellows as a result of his TDS.

    Endorsed a racist bigot for President. Said why should Schiff be censured. Now a sycophant for Paulbot Amash.

    No Republican is going to vote for impeachment in the House. Are they all wrong but Corey a “Republican” is right?

  515. CG says:

    Yep, I am a Republican and you are not. However, *if* Trump is reelected, I will probably cease to consider myself a Republican.

    On another note, Bears!

  516. NYCmike says:

    “However, *if* Trump is reelected, I will probably cease to consider myself a Republican.”

    -Well, since you want the Democrat to win, that makes sense.

  517. jason says:

    Corey is a Pelosi/Schiff/Amash Republican.


  518. NYCmike says:

    Trump cut $$ from Planned Parenthood, and “CG” is pro-life……….Bitterlaw, can both be true?

  519. CG says:

    Stupid argument. I have immense problems ideologically with all three of those people. (Nonetheless, Justin Amash was elected many times as a Republican and is acting on principle in this matter.)

    It’s a shame that Trumpists are so intellectually bankrupt that they have to create alternative narratives such as I am a liberal or aligned with the views of Justin Amash.

    Trump is the one who is much like Amash on foreign policy.

  520. jason says:

    Corey is a Republican who thought the 3 partisan hacks on the panel were right, but Turley was wrong.

    Btw, I am willing to bet Murkowski, Collins and scumbag Romney will not vote to convict.

    The ASPCA dogs are salivating…..

  521. jason says:

    and is acting on principle in this matter.”

    or aligned with the views of Justin Amash.”


  522. CG says:

    I could care less about anything on any panel yesterday. The whole thing was a waste of time.

    We all know what Trump did. He has admitted what he did. Either one cares and disapproves or they do not.

    To be accurate though, Turley said that Trump acted very inappropriately on the phone call and that if a couple conditions could be met, he would be willing to support impeachment. Who cares either way as far as I am concerned. Law professors are not any more American than anybody else.

    Get on with the vote and let the chips fall where they may.

  523. jason says:

    According to Corey, Pelosi and Schiff and CNN and MSNBC are right on impeachment but EVERY Republican in the House (and Senate too, since no R in the senate has voiced support for impeachment) is wrong.

    But the problem is with the “Trumpists”.

  524. CG says:

    We will see in the near future what the votes are, but if that is the case (and I do not think it will), then yes, I am still correct.

    However, the “problem” goes far beyond Trumpists. Tribalists on all sides bear blame. I have pointed many times to those who chose to make excuses or look the other way as Bill Clinton abused his powers to trample on the Constitution.

    There are more hypocrites in both parties on Capitol Hill than you can shake a stick at but I remain consistent (and humble.)

  525. jason says:

    We all know what Trump did. He has admitted what he did. ”

    Drivel straight out of the MSM cesspool of lies.

    Trump admitted to nothing. Nada. Zilch.

    There are no grounds for impeachment, no high crimes or misdemeanors.

    Inappropriate? Zzzzzzzzz…..

  526. CG says:

    He released the “transcript.” Case closed. Guilty.

    If it were a Democrat President who said those exact words to a foreign leader, everyone on HHR who leans right would have said so right from the start.

  527. jason says:

    and I do not think it will”

    So you are willing to bet?

  528. NYCmike says:

    What did Trump do wrong? What was illegal? What was a high crime and misdemeanor?

    Stop accusing us of being in a “tribe”.

    What laws were broken?

  529. CG says:

    Tell me the terms and how I can verify you pay up if you lose.

  530. NYCmike says:

    If we find out that Donald Jr is getting $83K a month from a foreign nation, I want to know why!

    “CG” would simply look the other way……YEAH RIGHT!

  531. CG says:

    The law that says you cannot accept something from a foreign national for the purposes of a political campaign.

    If you Google, you can probably even find the exact statute in the U.S. Code.

  532. jason says:

    f it were a Democrat President who said those exact words to a foreign leader, everyone on HHR who leans right would have said so right from the start.”

    Garbage. You can bet Obama had hundreds of similar conversations.

    And of course, nobody in the MSM would care if a Dem President said the same thing, it would never come to light.

    There is nothing incriminating in the transcript. That is why the Dems say the transcript doesn’t matter, and they have instituted the kangaroo court.

    As soon as the transcript was released, the goalposts moved.

  533. jason says:

    The law that says you cannot accept something from a foreign national for the purposes of a political campaign. ”

    The law? Even most Dems admit no laws were broken, that is why they say impeachment is a “political”, not legal process.

    If it was a legal process, the case against Trump, which is 100% hearsay with no material witnesses, would be laughed out of court.

  534. VictrC says:

    CG – I dont consider you a troll, I am perplexed by a number of your positions especially when you claim to be conservative, but your rhetoric says different.

    My guess is we would agree on at least 80% of the issues, maybe even more, which leaves me wondering how you could ever prefer a Democrat like the group running would be preferable over Trump.

    Remember that most here didn’t support him in the primaries in 2016, I certainly was very vocal against him, and didn’t vote for him in the General, but voting in Texas it didn’t matter.

    Since the election the actions of the Democrats and his policies have led me to vote for him in 2020. I don’t like some of the things he’s done, but I like the fact that he governs as a fairly good conservative (save Tariffs which I hate) and is amazing on judges which are key to maintaining some semblance of sanity after he’s gone.

    I have two young children, the alternative being offered is awful for them.

    Anyway, he won’t be convicted, he will run for re-election and I hope he wins. Not because I think he’s an amazing human being, but because he;s the best that is running.

  535. jason says:

    he law that says you cannot accept something from a foreign national for the purposes of a political campaign”

    And btw, there was never any investigation of the Bidens and the Ukranians got the meeting and aid anyway.

    So Trump didn’t “accept anything”.

    You have been watching too much MSNBC.

  536. jason says:

    Anyway, he won’t be convicted, he will run for re-election and I hope he wins. Not because I think he’s an amazing human being, but because he;s the best that is running.”


  537. CG says:

    No, Barack Obama, for as bad as a President as he was, did not ask a foreign government to go after Mitt Romney’s kids. Had he done so, he should have been impeached.

  538. CG says:

    It’s interesting that the quid pro quo was not that Ukraine had to investigate the Bidens but just to announce they were.

    That proves that anything about “corruption” was just bs and it was merely a political matter.

    Trump is corrupt as hell. Either someone cares or they do not. We are a divided country.

  539. CG says:

    “My guess is we would agree on at least 80% of the issues, maybe even more, which leaves me wondering how you could ever prefer a Democrat like the group running would be preferable over Trump”

    As always, I will preface by saying that I am almost certainly not voting for a Democrat to be President in 2020. I have never voted for a Democrat in any partisan election in my life (and only passed over the R nominee once).. but I will consider Bloomberg if he is nominated.

    But to answer that question, I have quoted Alexander Hamilton on here before.

    “Any nation that can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one.”

  540. NYCmike says:

    “Trump is corrupt as hell.”

    -Yes, the preponderance of your evidence is damning!

    “CG” said it, it must be true!

  541. NYCmike says:

    ““Any nation that can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one.””


    What has Trump done AS PRESIDENT that is disgraceful?

    You may be more of a snowflake than the kids who want Turley fired!

  542. CG says:

    Either you see it or you do not. Even your allies here concede that you personally will never find any fault with him.

    You can have your views and I can have mine. Being expose to alternative opinions seems to bother you. It’s the price you have to pay in a free society though.

    If you prefer an online echo chamber on Trump, there are other moderated sites, where I would certainly be banned after one post.

  543. NYCmike says:

    “Even your allies here concede that you personally will never find any fault with him.”

    -I have found fault with him, on numerous occasions.

    Every fault must be evaluated as to what the opposition would have done differently.

    Compared to the Democratic Party policies as pushed by Obama from 2009-2016, Trump has been fantastic!

    And, as both you and Robbie have attested to, has done things that ANY REPUBLICAN would have done, had they been able to win the Presidential election.

  544. NYCmike says:

    “Being expose to alternative opinions seems to bother you.”

    -Yes, living in NYC, “alternative opinions” bother me!!

    L O L ! !

  545. CG says:

    You just are a cheaper conquest than I.

    I find it harder to get over the things the does that no other Republican would do or no other American for that matter.

    But if he makes you happy and fulfills your political needs, G-d bless.

  546. CG says:

    You may strut the streets of Bay Ridge like a 77 Travolta but on here, you bitch and moan more than anyone.

    How bout them Cowboys!

  547. NYCmike says:

    “I find it harder to get over the things the does that no other Republican would do or no other American for that matter.”

    -What AS PRESIDENT has he done that is so immoral that you are unable to consider that Trump is better for this country than any Democrat running?

  548. CG says:

    Many things, but to name just one, I will say using pressure to try to get a foreign government to do something unwarranted for his own political benefit.

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