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    Biden Leads Dems in IA

    Joe Biden leads Bernie Sanders by a single percentage point in the the state of Iowa according to a new poll from Emerson College.

    PRESIDENT – IOWA – DEM CAUCUS (Emerson)
    Biden 23%
    Sanders 22%
    Buttigieg 18%
    Warren 12%
    Klobuchar 10%
    Booker 4%
    Steyer 3%
    Bloomberg 2%
    Yang 2%
    Gabbard 2%
    Everyone Else 1% or less

    PRESIDENT – IOWA (Emerson)
    Trump (R-inc) 46%
    Buttigieg (D) 45%

    Trump (R-inc) 49%
    Biden (D) 45%

    Trump (R-inc) 50%
    Sanders (D) 43%

    Trump (R-inc) 50%
    Warren (D) 43%

    This poll was done December 7-10 among 325 likely Democratic caucus voters and 1043 likely voters.

    Posted by Dave at 10:21 pm
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    425 Responses to “Biden Leads Dems in IA”

    1. Scooterboy says:

      First

    2. jason says:

      Ay caramba, todo rojo!

    3. jason says:

      Hey A-hole, you must have beaten me by seconds.

    4. Tgca says:

      Cuatro Bebe! Cuatro!

    5. jason says:

      Trump at 44.3 in the RCP average.

      After years of a relentless, partisan, dishonest, despicable MSM campaign to undermine his presidency, Trump has just about the same support he had when he was elected.

      The election is looking a lot like 2016 to me.

    6. Tgca says:

      Just to annoy Jadon, I’ll repeat this post.

      Impeachment. *rolls eyes*
      IG report. *yawwwwwwwwn*

      In other important news of the day, I had a tasty veggie lunch from the cafe consisting a grilled asparagus, polenta, and spanish onions. Yummy!

    7. Cash Cow TM says:

      Walt has a nephew who lives in South Central PA and who went to the Trump rally at Hershey, PA.

      Packed Hershey Arena!

    8. jason says:

      I had braised short ribs, man those are really meaty. I thought of having a side or vegetable but I had so many ribs it just wasn’t necessary.

    9. Cash Cow TM says:

      abuse of power

      a wee sub proof

    10. Cash Cow TM says:

      impeachment

      phat mice men
      ten chime map
      imp men teach
      me pine match
      ‘e meant chimp

    11. Cash Cow TM says:

      “I had braised short ribs, man those are really meaty.”

      You talking pork ribs.
      Right?

    12. jason says:

      Huh…. hmmmm….taking the 5th.

    13. jason says:

      “Senate confirms openly gay Trump nominee to 9th Circuit.”

      Corey will find a way to spin it as “white supremacy”

    14. VictrC says:

      Jason. You left out the most important part, is the person a conservative, because, to be honest, despite what Liberals think, that’s the only thing we care about when considering a person’s fitness for the bench.

    15. Hugh says:

      Tgca. So again. Why did you leave paradise for philly? Hope all is well with you

    16. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The Emerson poll provided even more bad news for the Democrats.

      “With the impeachment investigations reaching a boiling point in D.C., opposition to impeachment in the Hawkeye state sits at 50% while 38% are supportive of it. 12% of Iowans still have yet to make up their minds about the issue. Despite the recent hearings and pressure from the House Democrats, support for impeachment has dropped slightly since the last Emerson Iowa poll in mid-October when 48% opposed impeachment, 42% supported it, and 10% were unsure.”

      “Spencer Kimball, Director of Emerson Polling said, “one potential explanation for Trump’s improvement in Iowa is the Democrats’ inability to make the impeachment issue resonate more with voters as we saw a drop in both importance and support since October”.

      * * * *

      President Trump leads all potential Democratic opponents in head to head matchups in Iowa. The President leads Buttigieg by a point 46% to 45%. Against Biden, he leads 49% to 45%, and against Sanders and Warren he leads 50% to 43%. This is a shift from the previous Emerson Iowa poll, in which Sanders lead Trump by a point, and Biden and Warren trailed Trump by two points.

      In the latest Emerson Poll, 45% approve and 46% disapprove of the job Donald Trump is doing as president.

    17. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Tgca continues to astonish us with his amazing story of survival despite his appallingly awful diet. Its a harrowing tale of the will to live despite inconceivably unpalatable food choices.

    18. NYCmike says:

      “In other important news of the day, I had a tasty veggie lunch from the cafe consisting a grilled asparagus, polenta, and spanish onions. Yummy!”

      -I just ate at Sparks Steakhouse last Friday. Fantastic!

      Along with the steak, we ordered asparagus and sauteed onions.

      Polenta would have been fine as well as an side dish.

      I guess I am more well-rounded than the rest of you.

    19. lisab says:

      new “peleton lady” commercial has been released

      for Aviation Gin

      it is hilarious, and very familiar 🙂

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=40&v=H2t7lknrK28&feature=emb_logo

    20. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @SteveKornacki
      Favorable/Unfavorable
      Monmouth
      Biden: 43/50%
      Trump 46/52%

      Quinnipiac
      Biden 44/47%
      Trump 40/57%


      2016 exit poll
      Clinton: 43/55%
      Trump 38/60%

      Among voters who had an unfavorable view of *both*, Trump beat Clinton by 17 points nationally, 21 in MI, 25 in PA & 37 in WI

    21. lisab says:

      i think you guys are missing the fact that corey

      **WANTS**

      trump to lose

      so the polls don’t matter

    22. lisab says:

      so when the jebots impeach trump

      hillary becomes president right?

      … right?

      (seriously, i wonder how many of the snowflakes realize that trump will still be president after he is impeached …

      i think a fair number of them think he will be out of the white house if he is impeached)

    23. lisab says:

      one thing is for sure about the polls,

      trump is doing far better this time around than he was doing against hillary at this time

      he will also have a LOT more money than the dem candidate while hillary had almost a 2 to 1 advantage

      finally, the dems don’t have a candidate yet. by this time trump was way ahead of the gop pack

    24. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The Democrats have imploded in 2019. Instead of focusing on grooming a candidate who could defeat Trump; they have let the crazies in the Democratic Party run wild. The impeachment debacle has just strengthened Trump (did the same for Bill Clinton). By showing they are too incompetent to govern, the Democrats have strengthened Trump –who is his own worst enemy.

    25. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      According to Emerson College Polling, Trump is doing well in Iowa. Support for impeachment has sunk(down to 38%) and is underwater in 3 of the 4 Congressional Districts, two of which are represented by Dems(the 1st and 3rd).
      Trump leads all Dem. candidates in head-to-heads.

      http://emersonpolling.com/2019/12/11/iowa-2020-warrens-support-drops-while-sanders-rises/

    26. Tina says:

      Dang, sheeple, it appears that Scampeachment is hurting the drats.

      Everybody said Piglosi aka Botoxic is so smart.

    27. Tina says:

      Data from the largest campaign rally that Katy Turd has ever seen:

      Brad Parscale
      ?
      Verified account

      @parscale
      Follow Follow @parscale
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      Big Rally tonight in Hershey, PA! Strong data ?.

      ? 23,207 voters identified (82.5% from PA)

      ? 20% have only voted in 1 of last 4 elections (9% in zero)

      ? 20.3% Democrats

      ? 18% non-white

      This data will propel @realDonaldTrump in Pennsylvania in 2020!

    28. dblaikie says:

      This is an amazing article because of where it was written. Rolling Stone is coming out saying how bogus the Steele Dossier was and how Devin Nunes has been totally vindicated and the press totally shamed by defending Schiff and the Dossier. We live in interesting times. For us political junkies this hearing with the IG may be a popcorn moment. Oh well, here is the link: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/horowitz-report-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

    29. jason says:

      “Everybody said Piglosi aka Botoxic is so smart”

      In her defense she didn’t go for the Mueller bs, but she was not able to thwart her caucus on the Ukraine bs.

      Still, she resisted adding “bribery” and “treason” and other charges that would have made the articles even more ridiculous.

      I say she is still smarter than the average Dem.

    30. jason says:

      Jason. You left out the most important part, is the person a conservative, because, to be honest, despite what Liberals think, that’s the only thing we care about when considering a person’s fitness for the bench.”

      Good point. Actually this gay judge, Patrick Bumatay, is also Filipino, meaning 40 Dems voted against a gay man of color because, hmmm, he was appointed by Trump.

      He is rated “qualified” by the ABA. He earned his Bachelor of Arts, cum laude, from Yale University, and his Juris Doctor from Harvard Law School. After graduating from law school, Bumatay served as a law clerk to Judge Sandra L. Townes of the United States District Court for the Eastern District of New York and Judge Timothy Tymkovich of the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit.

      Bumatay has served in various positions at the United States Department of Justice, including the Office of the Attorney General, the Office of the Deputy Attorney General, the Office of the Associate Attorney General, and the Office of Legal Policy. He serves as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Southern District of California in the San Diego office, where he is a member of the Organized Crime and Drug Enforcement Task Forces Section.”

      Feinstein and Harris, however, say he is not qualified because he advised Trump on immigration policy and supported Gorsuch to SCOTUS. Horrors!

    31. jason says:

      Smart…

      “Perrine said Tuesday’s rally is more than a one-day, once and done event. Rather, it allows the campaign to connect with people, and gather data, that will enable Trump to expand his Pennsylvania base. Supporters attended the rally for free but first had to sign up online, giving the campaign mobile phone numbers and email addresses. As people walked to the rally, volunteers asked if they were registered to vote, ready to register any who aren’t. People who registered were also asked whether they want to become a local team leader.”

    32. jason says:

      I remember when the MSM told us in 2016 Trump could not win because he had no “ground game”.

      I think he is going to have a heck of ground game this time around.

    33. jason says:

      In the Quin poll, Rs oppose impeachment by 95-3.

      But Schiff Republican Corey says we at HHR are living in a “bubble”.

    34. jason says:

      So who does everyone else here want to be the Dem nominee?

      I want Bernie. If not Bernie, Warren.

    35. VictrC says:

      Judging by their performance so far, I’d say Warren. She is full batsh*? crazy, and not likable while doing it. Sanders, on the other hand, at least keeps his young base engaged. I don’t know how and why other than all the free stuff and taking away from others which they love.

      Still, I think Warren implodes easier and has the unlikeable Hillary-esque personality.

    36. dblaikie says:

      I want Uncle Joe! Maybe we will be able see him challenge a ninth year old woman to a push-up contest.

    37. Tina says:

      Let’s see who is living in a bubble;

      The jebots fell for Hillary

      The jebots fell for the Russian hoax/Steele dossier.

      The jebots fell for porn lawyah

      The jebots fell for scampeachment

      The jebots fell for the Schiff memo.

    38. VictrC says:

      Dbl. dont underestimate the sympathy vote for ol’ joe.There may be a lot of people who vote for him because they see him like their grandpa and think he’s a nice guy and its ok for him to be President because of the people he surrounds himself with.

      I’m still wary of him in a General election. The others, no. Not Sanders, Warren, Bloomberg or Buttigieg.

    39. jason says:

      Biden is more high risk high reward IMO. He is the most likely to beat Trump, and also the most likely to self destruct.

      I can’t see Sanders getting to 270. I think he puts CO, NM, NV, NH, VA, MN, ME all in play for Trump in addition to what he got in 2016.

    40. dblaikie says:

      VictrC you make a good point but I agree with Jason and I am a high risk, high reward type of person. Besides I can’t overstate it — I want to see Joe have a push-up contest,

    41. jason says:

      Remember when Amoral Scumbag was lecturing us on “Trump’s diminishing mental faculties”?

      The silence on Biden is deafening…

    42. Paul says:

      Trump is looking like he doesn’t know what’s going on anymore. Do we really want someone this unstable with the nuclear codes?

    43. lisab says:

      oh he knows …

    44. jason says:

      LOL

      Graham: Is it fair to say Christopher Steele had a political bias against Trump?

      Horowitz: “He was desperate to prevent Mr. Trump’s election.”

    45. lisab says:

      however, when you are likely losing in poker against one opponent …

      that is, you have a pair of sixes and the flop hits AKJ so you are pretty sure you are chasing …

      your only moves are to fold or raise big. You have to make your opponent think you have trips. if you just call the chance of hitting another six is small

      i don’t think the dems will fold

      i think they will come up with even a bigger accusation … or play a wild card (aka hillary)

    46. lisab says:

      maybe this time the accusation will be on trump jr.

      well known friend of epstein

    47. jason says:

      Do we really want someone this unstable with the nuclear codes?”

      You are talking about Biden, right?

      No.

    48. jason says:

      Why Joe?

      I am sure the vast majority of your constituents are not “torn”.

      “Sen. Joe Manchin, the moderate West Virginia Democrat, told CNN that he’s “very much torn” about whether to vote to convict President Trump on both counts.”

    49. DW says:

      I remember well the early election night coverage all pushed the talking point that part of the reason Trump was headed to defeat was the lack of a ground-game. As the night wore on, the conservatives who got onto the panel discussions mocked it saying the Dem’s ground game had to bribe voters with a cigarette, sandwich, shot of whiskey and a ride to the polls. All Trump’s supporters needed to know was when election day was.

    50. jason says:

      Ouch

      GRAHAM asks if @comey is vindicated by IG report, as he’s claiming.
      HOROWITZ: “The activities we found here don’t vindicate anybody who touched this.”

    51. jason says:

      CNN did not air Graham’s opening statement.

      Pravda would be proud.

    52. NYCmike says:

      “Pravda would be proud.”

      -Along with the #NeverTrumpers.

    53. NYCmike says:

      Amazing that “CG” and Robbie remain so silent/ambivalent about the actions taken by the Democrats/media the last 3 years (if not more than that!), even as their souls are consumed with hatred for Trump.

    54. mRviTO says:

      Steven Cheung
      @CaliforniaPanda
      ·
      1h
      Sen. Lindsey Graham on FBI surveilling the Trump campaign: “Let’s put it this way, if you don’t have a legal foundation to surveil somebody and you keep doing it is that bad?”

      IG Michael Horowitz: “Absolutely.”

      Graham: ”Is that spying?”

      Horowitz: “It’s illegal surveillance.”

    55. mRviTO says:

      Sean Davis
      @seanmdav
      ·
      1h
      GRAHAM: The FBI used a defensive counterintelligence briefing to spy on Trump. The FBI even wrote up 302s on the meeting. The Senate is being defensively briefed tomorrow. Is the FBI going to be spying on us and writing up our conversation?
      HOROWITZ: I’m concerned about that.

    56. mRviTO says:

      Chuck Ross
      @ChuckRossDC
      ·
      1h
      Horowitz says he would not have submitted FISA renewal applications with the information that FBI used.

      “I would not have submitted the one they put it. No doubt about it. It had no business going in.”

    57. mRviTO says:

      Nick Short
      ??
      @PoliticalShort
      “A lawyer (Clinesmith) supervising the FISA process at the FBI doctored an email from the CIA to the FBI, he’s being referred for criminal prosecution.” Doctored email altered the fact that Carter Page was working as source for CIA, not for the “Russians”.

    58. dblaikie says:

      I shouldn’t have done it, but I did, I went to Drudge to see what he was posting about the hearing. I couldn’t find a mention of it. Talk about Pravda. Matt must love his new life as a never Trumper. No more going on his site.

    59. mRviTO says:

      Chuck Ross
      @ChuckRossDC
      Significant takeaway from the IG report and Horowitz’s prepared remarks — the Steele dossier was the *entire* basis for FBI’s belief that Carter Page was coordinating with Russia.

    60. mRviTO says:

      Chuck Ross
      @ChuckRossDC
      ·
      1h
      Lindsey Graham: @carterwpage
      should “sue the hell out of” the FBI and DOJ.

    61. Cash Cow TM says:

      DRUDGE
      Monkeys with best friends have better survival rates…

    62. Phil says:

      I have made it a point over the last month to not give any clicks to Drudge. Period.

    63. mRviTO says:

      Did Isikoff just get red-pilled?

      He practically started this mess.

      Michael Isikoff
      @Isikoff
      Horowitz: “We were surprised to learn” that confidential human sources were used against members of a major party presidential campaign without approval of DOJ lawyers.

    64. Messy says:

      55. Page stopped working for Trump well before that and had nothing to do with the campaign. So going after Page (who was working to spy on the Former KGB, apparently), had nothing to do with spying on Trump. The other three people either are in jail, have been in jail, or are going to jail.

    65. Messy says:

      54s. But they did. So there.

      48. His constituents have nothing to do with this. He’s supposed to be an impartial juror.

    66. jason says:

      Messy Moron has to be a parody.

      I don’t think anybody could really be that stupid.

      HOROWITZ: I’m concerned about that.”

      Horowitz calls Messy Moron a liar. Oh, well.

    67. jason says:

      He’s supposed to be an impartial juror.”

      Well, in that case he will be a certain vote for acquittal.

      Sometimes even morons come up with a flash of lucidity.

    68. jason says:

      Yesterday Messy Moron said Trump would “barely” survive conviction in the Senate.

      So Messy Moron, how many votes do you think there will be to convict?

      This should be good.

    69. jason says:

      His constituents have nothing to do with this.”

      There you have the Democratic party in a nutshell.

      They always know what is best for you.

    70. jason says:

      BMG’s latest Westminster voting intention poll on behalf of The Independent sees a small increase in the Conservative Party lead over the Labour Party.

      CON: 41% (+2)
      LAB: 32% (-1)
      LDEM: 14% (+1)
      GRN: 4% (-1)
      BREX: 4% (-)
      Chgs. w/ 1 Dec.

    71. Annie says:

      dblaikie #58…Evidently, Drudge’s advertising is now handled by Google, which has a say in the site’s content. Hence, the obvious lean leftward.

    72. Annie says:

      Particularly, Drudge’s site is now controlled by Margaret Otto, whose husband is Adrian Otto, the technical director of Google Cloud.

    73. BayernFan says:

      Since 2017, Drudge is edited by Daniel Halpern, 33 year old former editor of Weekly Standard online. So there you go.

    74. Phil says:

      All starting to make sense now.

    75. dblaikie says:

      Thanks for the info on Drudge. Now it makes sense. The Drudge Report is an official member of the Trump derangement media.

    76. jason says:

      Lindsey Graham:

      If you got a guy who hates Trump’s guts from day one, thinks Pence is stupid and everybody who voted for Trump is an idiot and you give him power over Trump maybe you’re making a mistake.”

    77. jason says:

      There was no spying. It was just illegal surveillance.

      Move along, nothing to see here.

    78. mRviTO says:

      Forgive messy jason… she has trouble synthesizing data.

      “Horowitz says he would not have submitted FISA renewal applications with the information that FBI used.

      “I would not have submitted the one they put it. No doubt about it. It had no business going in.”

      I.e. He does hot believe there was a legal foundation for any of the renewals, but they kept doing it anyway.

    79. jason says:

      Hey Annie, long time no see…welcome back.

    80. mRviTO says:

      “So going after Page (who was working to spy on the Former KGB, apparently), had nothing to do with spying on Trump. The other three people either are in jail, have been in jail, or are going to jail.”

      None of them went to jail for anything related to what was the alleged reason. One served 14 days.. wow… for jeopardizing the republic? Flynn may walk, and Page probably has a gigantic settlement coming. Great work.

      I’m sure the FBI was totally incompetent in the Page FISA process by insisting he coordinated with Russians despite having exculpatory evidence… but everything was totally legit with the other investigations, amIright?

    81. jason says:

      Forgive messy jason… she has trouble synthesizing data.

      What was your first clue?

      “going after Page (who was working to spy on the Former KGB, apparently)”

      Page was working to spy on the former KGB…

    82. mRviTO says:

      “The activities we found here don’t vindicate anybody who touched this.”

      How many of those people touched everything else?

    83. mRviTO says:

      “working to spy on the Former KGB”

      I thought it wasn’t spying if there was a legal basis?

      How many apologies has Carter Page received from the people who trashed him?

    84. mRviTO says:

      Well, don’t forget, jason… messy said the Schaffer impeachment hearings might even convince Tina.

      Turns out they didn’t even convince all the democrats…

    85. mRviTO says:

      *schiff impeachment hearings

    86. mRviTO says:

      Nathan Brand
      @NathanBrandWA
      ·
      1h
      ? Ted Cruz summarizes it perfectly: “A lawyer at the FBI creates fraudulent evidence, alters an email that is in turn used as the basis for a sworn statement for the court that the court relies on. Am I stating that accurately?”

      Horowitz: “That is correct. That’s what occurred”

    87. Messy says:

      83. Yup. it’s in the report. He was an informant. why they didn’t tell the other guys is a mystery.

      As to the FBI meddling in the 2016 election, they did. The Comey letter. Without that, Hillary would have won in a landslide. We were all there at the time, remember?

    88. lisab says:

      you mean the comey investigation that found hillary did nothing wrong when she sent government documents over unsecure email?

    89. Messy says:

      79. There was no spying in the Trump campaign. The people they were investigating were, except for Page, all criminals. Papadapolos went to jail. Manafort is IN Jail, and Flynn is going to go to jail.

      Comey got Trump elected by his letter to Congress that he knew would be leaked.

    90. lisab says:

      hillary should be in prison …

      and possibly comey

    91. lisab says:

      and the dems better pray to allah they win in 2020 because otherwise they are going to have even a bigger war in 2024

      the leftists will be fully in charge next time

      biden and bloomber will look like center right candidates compared to what the dems run in 2024

      buttigieg will probably be the early frontrunner

    92. Annie says:

      Jason #81…I’ve been checking-in from time to time, reading what everyone has been debating. I’ve been very busy these days, but it’s always fun to come visit the comments here.

    93. mRviTO says:

      If Comey got Trump elected, it was by hijacking the email investigation with his presses, removing the term “gross negligence” and injecting intent into a statute that has none, thereby allowing Hillary to cheat Sanders out of the primary and put in place one of the worst candidates that the Deomocrats could have put up.

      Hillary lost because she was so grossly negligent that her emails ended up on Carlos Danger’s laptop and the FBI was too busy pretending Carter Page was Russian spy, because they believed Hillary’s dossier, to take care of the problem until a couple weeks before the election.

    94. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      89. “The Comey letter. Without that, Hillary would have won in a landslide. We were all there at the time, remember?

      Are Dorothy and Toto also part of your fantasy?

    95. Tina says:

      Ig is not a white wash.

      He referred everybody in it (fib and justice) for further criminal review.

      Says that there was surveillance aka spying. No difference between the 2

    96. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Texas General Election:

      Trump 48 (+1)
      Biden 47

      Trump 50 (+7)
      Buttigieg 43

      Trump 50 (+7)
      Sanders 43

      Trump 51 (+7)
      Warren 44

      CNN Poll
      http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2019/images/12/11/rel1_tx.pdf

    97. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Have to be impressed by the Democrats; it was hard, but they found a sure path to defeat. Put on a bigger clown shown than Trump. “Hey, you think Trump is a wacko, look at us!”

    98. mRviTO says:

      Horowitz agrees this was incompetence or intentional misconduct or a combination (begins to say gross negligence), that people must be fired and the culture must change.

      Says “I think it is fair for people to sit there and look at all 17 of these events and wonder how it could be purely incompetence.”

      Watch the clip on this tweet

      https://mobile.twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1204871171314987008

      IG Horowitz: Andy McCabe “handpicked” the agents involved w/ FISA misconduct.

      Says he “agrees completely” that “somebody has to be fired” over what he’s uncovered.
      2:02
      15K views
      Embedded video

    99. mRviTO says:

      Now think back on all the schmucks who called anyone a threat to the republic for questioning the intelligence agencies…

    100. lisab says:

      sdc,

      the dems forgot pandering 101, of playing to the hardcore supporters but governing towards the middle like the gope did for 40 years

      somehow they made the mistake of actually doing and saying what their base wants them to do and say

      it would have been so easy to do exactly what they are doing now EXCEPT as a censure investigation

      and then all made a HUGE deal about how bad censure is and how trump is the only president to be censured etc.

      and most of their base and the press would have gone along with it … even saying, “if the gop didn’t hold the senate he probably would have had to resign or be impeached”

      instead they actually went for impeachment and will look bad to their base when 90% find out that the senate has to convict

      it will actually demoralize the far left … the same happened with clinton,bthey had a huge party when the senate did not convict

    101. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      102. Totally agree. The Democrats are pandering to their base, at the expense of putting together a winning coalition.

    102. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      FiveThirtyEight.com
      ?@perrybaconjr

      “We think if the removal vote in the Senate happened today, there would about 44 votes for removal, 56 against. Of course things can change. But it’s hard to see anything emerging that would meaningfully affect the calculations of any of the 100 senators.”

      They are not going to remove Trump, so the only reason to move forward with impeachment would be if it was helping the Democrats politically. It is clearly not doing so.

      The Democrats are being consumed by their civil war. I was predicting they were heading into one last year, and it happened. The Democratic focus, as lisab points out, is to placate their radical base.

    103. mRviTO says:

      “It is clearly not doing so.”

      Unclear… the calculation has to be if it worse to lose some votes, or lose them anyway now AND lose the base.

    104. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @NateSilver538

      “People love thinkng about the more exotic scenarios but Biden would likely be a quite heavy favorite to win the nomination if he wins Iowa (not at all out of the question) and then still would have some pretty decent chances if he doesn’t (depending on a lot of things).”

      Pretty good for a candidate who during his campaign events in Iowa often thought he was in another state.

    105. mRviTO says:

      What if Biden says it is okay to lose Iowa, but he was thinking of Montana.

    106. mRviTO says:

      So, when does the Horowitz impeachment start?

    107. John says:

      Just releashed…Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday will be interviewing both Adam Schiff and James Comey.

    108. mRviTO says:

      Rich Lowry
      @RichLowry
      ·
      4h
      Lesson to law enforcement agencies is that if you’re going to abuse your powers, be sure to do it against a hated Republican presidential campaign–that way almost all your traditional critics from the last half-century will provide cover for you

    109. mRviTO says:

      Another media narrative bites the dust…

      Ken Dilanian
      @KenDilanianNBC
      · 6h
      This is noteworthy. Horowitz is NOT saying he has ruled out political bias in the FBI’s 17 Carter Page FISA errors. Q: “Can you say it wasn’t because of political bias?” A: “I do not know.”

    110. lisab says:

      Just releashed…Chris Wallace on Fox News Sunday will be interviewing both Adam Schiff and James Comey.
      ———————————–

      soooooooo … will it be a

      what kind of tree would you be?

      or

      why did you lie to the fisa courts?

      type interview?

    111. Tina says:

      Lol, a parody.

      Messy says:
      December 11, 2019 at 3:53 pm
      79. There was no spying in the Trump campaign. The

    112. jason says:

      Messy is right.

      By failing to indict Hillary the FBI interfered with the election.

    113. jason says:

      Kimberly Strassel:

      “Report is a devastating indictment of Steele, Fusion GPS and the “dossier.” Report finds that about the only thing FBI ever corroborated in that doc were publicly available times, places, title names. Ouch.”

      Remember when Messy Moron told us the fake dossier was “corroborated”?

    114. PresidentPaul! says:

      https://summit.news/2019/12/10/parents-lose-custody-of-15-year-old-daughter-for-refusing-to-allow-sex-change

      Parents Lose Custody of 15-Year-Old Daughter For Refusing to Allow Sex Change
      “It is as if they had killed our child.”

    115. PresidentPaul! says:

      Don Lemon having a mental breakdown live on air. Great Job President Trump!

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsrWwmywoXQ&feature=youtu.be

    116. jason says:

      Hey Bunu, GFY.

    117. NYCmike says:

      jason,

      I agree with your statement towards bunu, but the link is pretty funny!

      The fact that CNN pays that guy a lot of money to anchor a show…..WOW! Terrible.

      And of course, Kasich had to go on there.

    118. PresidentPaul! says:

      Pretty sure Kasich is filled with formaldehyde and they just bring him out of the CNN backroom for interviews.

    119. PresidentPaul! says:

      http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1576115413357.jpg

      Privilege. Does she make more than Hunter though?

    120. jason says:

      Anyone clicking on Bunu’s links is crazy.

    121. jason says:

      Senator Hawley:

      “The DNC pays for the Steele dossier, solicits the Steele dossier, and then gets the Federal Bureau of Investigation to go get FISA warrants, surveil an American citizen, and surveil a presidential campaign all on the basis of this manufactured garbage that they paid for. I mean that’s extraordinary,” he complained. “That has got to be a first time in history. In fact, let me just ask you, Mr. Horowitz, are you aware ever of another presidential campaign being targeted by the FBI like the Trump campaign was?”

    122. jason says:

      Btw, Horowitz answered “no”.

    123. PresidentPaul! says:

      And Graham doesn’t want any of these ppl testifying why. Protecting McCain?

    124. Tina says:

      I said the report was bad.

      It is even worse.

      Comedy lied.

    125. jason says:

      For those that call Murkowski a RINO, here is an in interesting statistic.

      Votes with Trump:

      Murkowski 74%
      Ultimate RINO Rand Paul 69%

    126. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The British election is tomorrow, and Lord Ashcroft is out with his predictions. Hopefully, unlike 2016, he is right that the Conservatives will win:

      Lord Ashcroft: Labour support solidifies as expectations grow of a Tory win. My final election dashboard.
      By Lord Ashcroft

      “The final round of my general election polling dashboard, based on 4,046 interviews between 5 and 9 December, shows clear Conservative leads on most measures – but with Labour support continuing to harden at the expense of the Liberal Democrats as polling day approaches.”

    127. PresidentPaul! says:

      Obama lied, FBI spied, and they try to impeach Trump who was the victim for the whole thing.

    128. Tina says:

      Goober may have become Granite

      He is requiring Redactstein to testify.

      No way Redactstein gets a pass.

    129. jason says:

      I hope Lord Asshat’s prediction doesn’t sink Johnson like it did Hillary.

    130. jason says:

      FLASHBACK: James Comey, December 2018

      “I have total confidence that the FISA process was followed and that the entire case was handled in a thoughtful, responsible way… I think the notion that FISA was abused here is nonsense.”

    131. jason says:

      Maybe Chris Wallace can read that back to him and ask him if still thinks that.

    132. Tina says:

      Thought the goober hearing was informative.

      He should have waited a few more days though.

      Some senators admitted to not being able to fully read it,

      The report is damaging to the drats and Jebots, who lies,

    133. Tina says:

      Chuck Ross
      ?
      Comedy “ I don’t do weasel moves.”

      Verified account

      @ChuckRossDC
      20m20 minutes ago
      More
      Comey has done this repeatedly. In every 50-50 situation, where he doesn’t know one way or the other if an allegation about Trump is true, he’s chosen to advance the innuendo rather than say he doesn’t have evidence one way or the other. It’s completely a “weasel move.”

    134. BayernFan says:

      128… there was no national election in the UK in 2016. Other than Brexit. There were elections in 2015 and 2017.

    135. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      136. Was referring to Lord Ashcroft’s 2016 prediction that Clinton would win, which Robbie used to taunt the board prior to Trump pulling off the upset:

      Robbie says:
      November 8, 2016 at 7:17 pm
      Lord Ashcroft has the exits posted on his twitter. Basically, they show an easy Clinton win, but not a landslide.

    136. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The HHR archive from election night, November 8, 2016, is an entertaining read. Major meltdown.

    137. jason says:

      Final UK poll, this would give Conservatives a solid majority.

      **Survation Final Call**
      GB VOTING INTENTION

      CON 44.5
      LAB 33.7
      LD 9.3
      GRE 3.2
      SNP 4.0
      PC 1.4
      AP 0.9

    138. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Far leftist Bernie Sanders is a strong supporter of far leftist Corbyn. Both Bolsheviks have big plans

      “Labour’s election campaign received rousing support from American progressive champion Bernie Sanders on Thursday at the start of a three-day UK speaking tour .

      Ridiculed, reviled, resurgent … Is Corbyn’s campaign beginning to #feeltheBern?

      Drawing parallels between anti-establishment anger at both ends of the political spectrum in Britain and the US, the former candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination also applauded Jeremy Corbyn’s efforts to reshape the Labour party.

      “What has impressed me – and there is a real similarity between what he has done and what I did – is he has taken on the establishment of the Labour party, he has gone to the grassroots and he has tried to transform that party … and that is exactly what I am trying to do,” said Sanders.

      “I am also impressed by his willingness to talk about class issues,” he added during a sold-out speech promoting his book at the Brighton festival. “Too many people run away from the grotesque levels of income and wealth inequality that exist in the United States, the UK and all over the world. We will never make the kind of changes we need unless we take on the levels of inequality that exist.”

    139. PresidentPaul! says:

      Stopping McCain and Romney. Mission accomplished.

      http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1576121923937.jpg

    140. Hugh says:

      Chris Wallace gets comey and shiff because they know he will kiss their buttts lake the progressive Trojan horse he’s been at fnc. Fox needs to watch themselves. Though hemmler will be an improvement

    141. Cash Cow TM says:

      Has Trump STILL not been driven out of the White House by the pitchfork carrying demoncrats?

    142. Bitterlaw says:

      Checking in after a long day working for the disorganized controlling boss. It pays bills but I am still looking for another job.

      I am not a wealthy gentleman farmer like Jason.

    143. NYCmike says:

      #127 – I would like to see the side-by-side votes for those 2 where they went against Trump, instead of percentages. That might be a useful tidbit of information.

    144. jason says:

      Here we go, I warned that Bunu would be posting links to Nazis.

    145. jason says:

      I would like to see the side-by-side votes for those 2″

      Translation: when Rand Paul votes against Trump he is my hero, when Murkowski votes against Trump she is a RINO.

      But I give NYC a pass, he is hard hit that Roy Moore is in 4th place in AL.

    146. Bitterlaw says:

      At least he dropped the Paul handle.

    147. mRviTO says:

      Paul Sperry
      @paulsperry_
      ·
      8h
      BREAKING: IG Horowitz testified FBI case agent who misled DOJ re Carter Page’s prior cooperating role w the CIA–otherwise exculpatory evidence in FISA wiretap process–is STILL WORKING at the FBI, along w other agents cited for misconduct. Why? “You’ll have to ask director Wray”

    148. Bitterlaw says:

      NYC still remains enameled with Rand. He was his first refuge after the Tea Party.

    149. Bitterlaw says:

      Enamored.

    150. NYCmike says:

      “NYC still remains enameled with Rand.”

      -I thought he was an eye doctor.

      He does teeth as well??

    151. NYCmike says:

      “remains enameled”

      -No wonder your new boss is a control freak!!

    152. NYCmike says:

      “Translation:”

      -There was some snow today, and thankfully I am wearing my boots!

    153. jason says:

      Hard to figure what NYC likes most about Rand Paul. His hatred for the US military and Israel, or his naive views on terrorism and Iran.

    154. mRviTO says:

      Matt Taibbi
      @mtaibbi
      · 3h
      This is why the Horowitz report is about more than the FISA application. Anonymous law enforcement sources were leaking major news stories they must have known were not reliable. Reporters who ran this stuff should be furious, and they don’t seem to be. https://washingtonpost.com/world/national

    155. mRviTO says:

      Eli Lake
      @EliLake
      ·
      16h
      It’s unpresidential and dangerous for Trump to attack the FBI director the way he did. That said, Chris Wray was also insisting that the Nunes memo on FISA abuse and Carter Page was inaccurate in 2018. Horowitz proved Wray’s objections were false. He needs to explain himself.

    156. Hugh says:

      trump should fire Wray tomorrow. It will put even more focus on fbi corruption and send a message if you’re not going to try to vigorously fix the problem you’re gone.

    157. dblaikie says:

      It is always nice to get clarity and to know where folks stand. Last night or tonight(not sure which) Chris Wallace said this:“I believe that President Trump is engaged in the most direct sustained assault on freedom of the press in our history.”

      No wonder Comey and Schiff have agreed to go on his show. Sunday will be the test. Tim Russert was a Democrat but he was fair and balanced when he was on Meet the Press. We know that Wallace doesn’t like Trump — but will he be fair. We will see next Sunday?

    158. PresidentPaul! says:

      Sen. Hawley on Horowitz: ‘The Collusion Here Was Between the DNC and the FBI’

      “The DNC pays for the Steele dossier, solicits the Steele dossier, and then gets the Federal Bureau of Investigation to go get FISA warrants, surveil an American citizen, and surveil a presidential campaign all on the basis of this manufactured garbage that they paid for. I mean that’s extraordinary,” he complained. “That has got to be a first time in history. In fact, let me just ask you, Mr. Horowitz, are you aware ever of another presidential campaign being targeted by the FBI like the Trump campaign was?”

      Hawley then grilled Horowitz about why the criminals at the FBI involved in this are still employed. No one knows. Hawley closed with this bombshell: “I think the collusion here was between the DNC and the FBI.”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zy2V4Amd_Q4

    159. PresidentPaul! says:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SZKLvEOp9c

      Ron Paul: It’s time to cut the funding for the FBI and CIA

    160. PresidentPaul! says:

      FBI is in charge of fixing elections and the CIA is charge of warcrimes and torture dungeons.

    161. John says:

      Just released….next Trump rally will be next Wednesday (Dec. 18) or exactly one week prior to Christmas in Battle Creek, Michigan at the Kellogg Arena (6,000 capacity) and the Trump campaign has notified local authorities that a crowd of well over 10,000 is expected and to open up the adjacent Festival Market Square for an overflow crowd…

    162. lisab says:

      FBI is in charge of fixing elections and the CIA is charge of warcrimes and torture dungeons.
      ——————————

      that is not fair …

      the cia has fixed many elections … just not that many in the united states

    163. PresidentPaul! says:

      Brennan is a member of the communist party and he ran the CIA. It’s all a scam.

    164. lisab says:

      the fbi is actually a good idea in theory

      it is only the implementation that has sucked for the last 70 years

    165. lisab says:

      the cia has actually been relatively effective compared to the fbi … except for cuba …

    166. Hugh says:

      161. He’s a hack like his old man.

    167. lisab says:

      He’s a hack like his old man.
      ——————————–

      respectfully disagree

      trump is a populist as was obama and would-be presidents warren and sanders

      now, one could argue trump is relatively well behaved as a populist, but …

      there is 2000 years of history suggesting populists are inherently dangerous

      (not that i am saying a bought and paid for press is not dangerous)

    168. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      160. “trump should fire Wray tomorrow.”

      Trump is only allowed to fire one FBI director for each term of office he serves. Special counsels are too expensive.

    169. PresidentPaul! says:

      Gina Haspel is head of the CIA. She is the lady that illegally destroyed all torture tapes and was rewarded for it by promotion to director.

      Brennan was the leader for the CIA before her who by his own admission is a Russian Communist.

      Comey ran the FBI and was in charge of cooking US elections.

      Ron Paul was absolutely right in campaigning on defunding these organizations.

    170. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Since the trolls are missing, I will have to substitute in an denounce Trump’s economic record. People may think the U.S. economy is booming, but compare it with liberal and enlightened Germany.

      “Trading Economics here states that German GDP “rebounded” to a growth of 0.1% in the third quarter, after a decline of 0.2% in the second quarter of 2019. Congratulations!”

      Also gasoline prices in Germany are at $5.80 per gallon. And improvement from when they were over $6.00 a gallon.

      Such a record of economic success. Can see why Bernie wants us to move the U.S. towards European socialism.

    171. lisab says:

      you really can’t compare us to germany

      no matter how much they they suck up to the un

      they are a bunch of fking nazis

      and really cannot be admitted back into he human race until at least 2045

    172. lisab says:

      don’t get me wrong

      i love oktoberfest

      german beer and peasant blouses are really good

      they are still fking nazis

    173. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      1-From the Washinton Post:

      “House Democratic leaders are bracing for defections among a group of moderate Democrats in swing districts who are concerned a vote to impeach President Trump could cost them their seats in November.”

      2- The House Impeachment vote will probably occur next Thursday, the 19th. December 19th is the same day that Clinton was impeached in 1998(?). The Donkeys just love symbolism!

    174. Messy says:

      167. please provide documentation.

      162. Yeah, the Comey letter that elected Trump. That was Republican collusion with the FBI.

      158. They were doing that with the Hillary email crap too.

    175. Messy says:

      Remember in 1968, Richard Nixon colluded with the South Vietnamese Government to influence that year’s election. We know this because the FBI was wiretapping his campaign.

      Except for carter page, everybody investigated was guilty.

    176. Wes says:

      This is just amazing:

      Messy the Moron actually thinks Republicans “colluded” with the FBI to get Comey to reopen an investigation into the national security-breaching crime Hillary clearly committed.

    177. Wes says:

      At this point, the Left has used the word “collusion l” so much the term has lost any actual meaning.

    178. Messy says:

      no, Wes the Weasel is wrong again. The Republicans colluded with the FBI to force Comey to send a letter to Republican congressmen who promptly leaked it.

    179. Messy says:

      col·lu·sion
      /k??lo?oZH?n/

      noun
      noun: collusion

      secret or illegal cooperation or conspiracy, especially in order to cheat or deceive others.
      “the armed forces were working in collusion with drug traffickers”

    180. Wes says:

      Of course, Messy the Moron.

      Republicans forced the FBI DIRECTOR UNDER BARACK OBAMA (D-IL) to release a letter regarding a legitimate investigation into Hillary’s breach of national security.

      That makes perfect sense.

      By the way, when did Brenda Snipes become a Republican?

    181. Wes says:

      Messy the Moron is so stupid he doesn’t understand what I meant in 181.

    182. Messy says:

      184-85. Well, it’s true. the case was closed, and the letter was unnecessary.

      https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/02/james-comey-fbi-director-letter

    183. jason says:

      Comey saved Hillary from being indicted like she was supposed to, with the BS “extremely reckless” definition that Lynch told him to use.

      And of course, the reason Hillary lost had nothing to with the letter, the fact she was regarded as dishonest and untrustworthy by 70% of the population was baked in long before that.

      Polls show that Hillary was already losing ground before the letter and the polls were already tightening.

      Comey saved Hillary, not the other way around.

    184. jason says:

      Ron Paul was absolutely right”

      Bunu comes up with best oxymoron of the day.

    185. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      Wes
      1- Messy is a she
      2- Does Messy also claim that the GOP forced her to lard-up Anthony Weiner’s hard drive with SOS Clinton’s e-mails?
      3-In #179, Messy claims that “everybody” investigated were guilty of crimes. Wormtongue uses a similar method of the half-truth. No one was indicted or convicted of Russian collusion crimes, but process or non-related crimes and many, like members of the President’s family were untouched.
      4- Please thank Messy for the definition of the word “collusion”. That’s a word I have never heard or seen in my 6 decades on Earth(sarc.).

    186. jason says:

      The FBI letter is excuse 1278-B of why Hillary lost.

      Hillary is corrupt, dishonest and trustworthy.

      That is why she lost.

      The other 1277 excuses are MSM propaganda.

    187. jason says:

      Didn’t Messy tell us the fake dossier had been “corroborated”?

      Even CNN and MSNBC don’t claim that anymore, now they just claim it “was never used”.

      She also told us Trump would be “barely” acquitted in the Senate.

      Still waiting for her to tell us how many votes she thinks there will be to convict.

    188. Wes says:

      I actually disagree with Jason to a degree on this. While polling showed Hillary was losing ground it’s doubtful she would have lost without the reopening of the investigation. It was the final straw for an arrogant, corrupt , megalomaniac candidate.

    189. jason says:

      Sorry wes, I just don’t see anyone coming to the conclusion that Hillary was corrupt based on that letter, these perceptions were baked in long before that. It could have reinforced the perception, but that doesn’t change votes

      And in fact, she was actually on an upward trend the weekend before the election, so you could argue that the Comey letter “clearing” her helped her in the end.

      I think at most it was a wash.

    190. jason says:

      Boris at 86 cents at Predictit.

    191. Phil says:

      Should be interesting to see how many Democratic defections there are on the House impeachment vote. We already know there will be a minimum of two. My final prediction is 5 or 6 hence the opposition will be bipartisan.

      Ok, Nancy, there you have your bipartisan vote….against. Nice work, girl.

    192. Paul says:

      Amash (i) is voting for it.

    193. jason says:

      US team almost got skunked last night at the President’s cup, down 4-1.

    194. jason says:

      Amash is not a Republican, he is a Paulbot.

      I think only 2 or 3 Dems will vote no on both counts, but I expect more will vote no on the obstruction of congress article just so they can protect themselves in Trump districts.

    195. jason says:

      Paul is so stupid he thinks an independent voting for impeachment makes it bipartisan.

    196. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      Phil and jason:
      Let’s start a prediction thread for the two Articles of Impeachment and the Democrat crossovers. My prediction is:
      1- Abuse of Power- 5 Democrats
      2- Obstruction- 9 Democrats.
      Pelosi will not allow the crossovers to go into double digits.

    197. Wes says:

      I didn’t say people concluded Hillary was corrupt based on that, Jason. I said having the FBI announce an investigation of a candidate during an active voting period was the final thing that cost Hillary the election.

      It was clear Hillary was going to have a closer election than anticipated before the announcement. That was just the final push fence sitters needed to break for Trump.

    198. dblaikie says:

      Don’t want to be accused of plagiarism so let me say I did not think of this, but found it on twitter. But I find it a little amusing as the Nero Democrats move forward with Impeachment today with two very important articles:

      1. They lost the election in 2016
      2. They will lose the election in 2020

    199. Paul says:

      We need reduce the presidency, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub.

    200. Paul says:

      Grover Norquist paraphrase

    201. dblaikie says:

      It all depends on what these people are hearing from their home districts. At the end of the day if they feel they are going to lose their seat they will crossover, unless they are willing to walk the plank for Nancy.

      In addition there might be some who have the clarity to see that if Impeachment is passed there is a huge chance that they will lose the majority and Nancy will lose her gavel. If so come to this logical conclusion they will be willing to buck Nancy and crossover.

      However not many are that smart and wary and strategic. So my prediction is that 7 will crossover on abuse of power while 15 dems will vote no on Obstruction. I know that this is a pie in the ski prediction and most likely it will be to generous in thinking folks will come to their senses. But being a positive person I continue to hope.

    202. Paul says:

      There are two new Democrats in previous Republican districts in my neck of the woods–Casten and Underwood. I have no doubt that they are both voting for impeachment. It actually makes more sense to keep their bases supporting them than to try to get Republicans that will likely not support them either way.

    203. Phil says:

      205

      Yes, that’s a bit generous on the vote totals. However, I do agree there will be more no votes on the obstruction article. As absurd as the first article is, the second goes beyond that and is laughable on its face.

      Many of the Democrats from Trump districts will vote aye on impeachment and try and derive comfort by telling themselves that their vote will be long forgotten by constituents come November. I think they are whistling past the graveyard.

    204. Tina says:

      If it passes the house, I wonder if trump takes it to the Supreme Court and challenged spampeachment.

      This is interesting, if he does it,

    205. Phil says:

      This impeachment is a sham, but it’s not unconstitutional. It’s explicitly enumerated in the Constitution. Trump would lose 9-0 in the Supreme Court.

      Impeachment is not going anywhere. It’s a complete overreach politically. Trump doesn’t have to do anything.

    206. mnw says:

      174 SDC

      The trolls are NEVER “missing” at HHR.

    207. BayernFan says:

      Supreme Court wouldn’t touch it.

    208. dblaikie says:

      If Slotkin from Michigan and Horn from Oklahoma cross over then the Impeachment vote will be interesting. Oh it will pass but if they go the crossovers may be higher than expected.

    209. Tina says:

      They are unconstitutional as is sham peach ent

      Chad Pergram
      @ChadPergram
      · 40m
      Pelosi on why there was not an article of impeachment on bribery:
      I myself am not a lawyer..the articles are what they are. They are powerful very strong.

    210. NYCmike says:

      “They are powerful very strong.”

      -Is Pelosi starting to sound like Trump, or is Tina just drinking early?

    211. Hugh says:

      Nadler looks like he ate some bad oysters on tv. He knows this is going badly. And it is. The dems look like they don’t want to be there.

    212. Tina says:

      Turns out that Paul Ryanomalso has egg on his face.

      He made Nunes step down temporarily. The Nunes memo was correct.

      Notice how Botoxic never made Soviet Schifty step down for lying.

    213. jason says:

      Tlaib posted this morning, in which she wrote, “This is heartbreaking. White supremacy kills”

      As we know, the perpetrators were black…

      Corey to sat they were influenced by white supremacists in 3, 2, 1…

    214. jason says:

      Why is Trump being impeached again?

      “OMB general counsel Mark Paoletta issued the memo as a response to a request for information on why the aid was withheld, a request that came from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

      In the memo, Paoletta wrote: “For decades, OMB has routinely used its apportionment authority to prevent funds from being used. Often, in managing appropriations, OMB must briefly pause an agency’s legal ability to spend those funds for a number of reasons, including to ensure that the funds are being spent efficiently, that they are being spent in accordance with statutory directives, or to assess how or whether funds should be used for a particular activity.”

      The memo reportedly stated that the aid was put on hold due to an administration directive “pending a policy decision,” and discussions about how to proceed with the aid were set for mid-June.

      The Post added, “The memo says that ‘at no point during the pause’ did Defense Department attorneys tell OMB the Ukrainian funding would be prevented from being spent before the end of the year.”

    215. jason says:

      Drudge is pumping up the Marxist anti-semite Corbyn.

      A new low.

    216. Messy says:

      218. There’s the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, which was violated.

    217. jason says:

      Grassley takes a well deserved victory lap after having been criticized for referring Steele for criminal prosecution.

      “FISA report shows Steele dossier built on lies&rumor Graham/Grassley crim referral of Steele Jan 2018 looks like tip of iceberg compared 2details exposed by IG re politically motivated Steele dossier. FBI fed FISA court a bunch of hogwash knowing Steele dossier had NO credibility
      3:58 AM – 11 Dec 2019

    218. jason says:

      There’s the Impoundment Control Act of 1974, which was violated.”

      LOL

      I bet Messy Moron does not even know what “impoundment” means.

    219. mRviTO says:

      222 Some of the weakest sauce in the whole thing… was passed because Nixon was cancelling congressional appropriations by delaying them until they couldn’t be spent. The President still can delay the money if it allows time for it all to be spent by the end of the fiscal year… there are conditions under which congress does not need to be notified.

      Of course, Ukraine received all the money, and before the end of the fiscal year, so… well… it’s pretty weak.

      I read a politifact article where they said they couldn’t tell whether the law was broken.

    220. Wobbles says:

      Here in Bogo Pogo there is no Twitter, but messengers are running from beach to beach with news about how “violating the Impoundment Control Act of 1974” is an impeachable offense, and this will finally “get” Trump.

      Very exciting.

    221. jason says:

      Trey Gowdy:

      “I don’t know what report Comey read. This is the third IG report that has found his conduct to be substandard … if he wants to take a victory lap because he not indicted, more power to him,” Gowdy said before addressing Comey directly: “Don’t write any more books on ethics… Don’t tell me what the ethical standard is if you think this report vindicates you.”

    222. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      From Barron’s.

      What a contrast to the Democratic romper room.

      “The U.S. and China May Actually Have an Interim Trade Deal. Get Ready for a Market Rally.
      Reshma Kapadia
      Dec. 12, 2019 2:55 pm ET

      The U.S. has reached a phase-one trade deal in principle with China, according to reports, with the deal awaiting President Donald Trump’s signature. Global markets could get an even bigger shot in the arm on the news—but certain sectors and markets could get a bigger lift than others.

      Bloomberg reported Thursday afternoon that a deal had been reached in principle. Earlier, The Wall Street Journal had reported that U.S. negotiators have said they would cut existing tariffs on as much as half of roughly $360 billions of Chinese-made goods and cancel the round of tariffs set for Sunday in return for agricultural purchases and other commitments as the two sides continue to work toward an interim trade pact. Such an agreement could keep the up-and-down relationship from going off the rails and avert another economic hit.”

    223. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      224. Bogo Pogo may not have Twitter, but it certainly has a twit.

    224. jason says:

      Alan Dershowitz thinks the Senate has a dilemma…he thinks both articles are bogus.

      “If the House votes to impeach President Trump on grounds not authorized by the Constitution, its action, in the words of Hamilton, is void. As he put it in the Federalist Papers, “no legislative act, therefore, contrary to the Constitution, can be valid.” If this is indeed the case, then the Senate will be confronted with a constitutional dilemma, if and when it will receive a void and invalid impeachment. It will have to decide whether to proceed with a trial of charges that are unconstitutional and therefore are void.”

    225. Chicon says:

      226 – it was not worth the serious damage done to the US economy by the tariffs. Oh, wait….

    226. Wobbles says:

      I am not a twit…

      I just miss Avenatti. My man. My idol. My hero.

    227. jason says:

      it was not worth the serious damage done to the US economy by the tariffs.”

      It never is. The US should be the champion of free trade and free enterprise instead of trying to kill it.

      The AFL-CIO conservatives celebrating a “deal” here is akin to rebuilding one building after an earthquake destroys a city and claiming to have erased all the damage.

      But claiming victory and moving on is the smart thing to do, I have been recommending it for months.

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    230. Chicon says:

      234 – Hi, Robbie.

    231. jason says:

      Carter Page is going to come up with some serious lawsuits.

      And that should bring about some interesting discovery.

    232. Wobbles says:

      That wasn’t me, it was a friend.

    233. jason says:

      Posted at Predictit, have no idea if it is fake or real.

      But right now Johnson is at 83 and Corbyn at 15.

      EXIT POLL PROJECTIONS

      Conservative: 341
      Labour: 225
      SNP: 45
      Lib Dems: 16
      Plaid Cymru: 4
      Brexit Party: 0
      DUP: 10
      Sinn Fein: 6
      SDLP: 2

    234. jason says:

      Posted by a Labour supporter, so there is that.

    235. jason says:

      In any event BBC will release their exits in 45 minutes.

    236. jason says:

      Considering the DUP is the Northern Ireland version of the Conservatives, this would give Boris a solid majority to push Brexit through once and for all.

    237. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Great article by Victor Davis Hanson entitled: “Is Trump the Only Adult in the Room?”

      https://townhall.com/columnists/victordavishanson/2019/12/12/is-trump-the-only-adult-in-the-room-n2557834?utm_source=thdaily&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&newsletterad=12/12/2019&bcid=edff960c22cffce84726952a1ca03325&recip=257957

      It is ironic the petulant Trump is now actually coming across as the adult the political craziness taking place, which the Democrats come across as whinny children.

    238. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      231. “The US should be the champion of free trade and free enterprise instead of trying to kill it.”

      Free trade is like dancing. It takes both dancers to make it work. China was not engaging in free trade with the U.S., it was predatory protectionism. Thanks to Trump, we may get actual get real free trade, instead of just getting screwed.

    239. jason says:

      ree trade is like dancing. It takes both dancers to make it work. ”

      Zzzzzz…

      This asinine argument, a favorite of the AFL-CIO conservatives who parrot it constantly, is the biggest crock of crap.

      This is like saying we cannot promote capitalism, because some countries are communist. It means you cannot take the leadership on free trade, free market and free enterprise principles because some people do not agree.

      Thanks to Trump, we may get actual get real free trade,”

      Ah yes, the old, tired, hackneyed “fu-king for virginity” argument, “TARIFFS FOR FREE TRADE”.

      Geezus…

    240. Victrc says:

      Bitter – Off topic but I’m flying through your hometown airport and I have to say I’m impressed. I normally avoid philly when flying as it’s too short a flight to Europe to get rest and to close to flying direct to nyc or dc…but today I had to. Saw the eagles paraphanilia and thought of your suffering.

      On topic – a university professor from Temple was sitting next to me and posting messages to his friends who all love in a bubble. They honestly think Trump is going to be removed and only a matter of time before they implicate Pence in all Trumos crimes. I kid you not. He was posting grades for his kids in his class as well.

      Liberals are completely separated from reality and now it’s easy to see why that lunatic professors last week blathered what they did.

    241. jason says:

      Wow

      Conservative 368 Labor 191

      Landslide

    242. dblaikie says:

      Boris wins big 368 seats.

    243. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Exit polls showing an 86 Conservative majority in British election. If happens is biggest majority since 1987 (from RRH live coverage).

    244. Victrc says:

      Lmao. Just two hours ago I read the N.Y. Times article on how Corbin could be the PM in short order.

      I don’t think anyone predicted a conservative majority of 85+!!!!

      Last poll I saw said around 35.

    245. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Bernie’s Bolshevik twin is going down. The Democrats should be watching these results and realizing they may be looking at the same type of disaster in 2020 if they nominate a far leftist.

    246. Hugh says:

      And for more good news dems look ridiculous at today’s hearing

    247. Tina says:

      Yes, just minor slip ups and a “doctored” document,

      NBC News
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      NEW: In testimony before US Senate, US Justice Dept. IG Horowitz discussed a litany of embarrassing slip-ups by the FBI, including a “doctored” email made to seem like Carter Page was not a CIA source, when in fact he was.

    248. Victrc says:

      No wonder the media is pushing the “centrist” meme in the last couple hours

      Their idea of “centrist” is Buttageig who is:

      Pro-abortion
      Pro-gun control
      Pro-public option
      Anti fracking
      Pro amnesty
      Pro open border
      For tax increase to 49%, including tax hikes on business, capital gains and estate taxes

      That’s centrist?

    249. jason says:

      LOL

      “The Conservative Party would like to thank Labour for thinking national socialism was a winning platform in 2019”

    250. jason says:

      This is why I want Sanders as the nominee.

      If Britain is not ready for full blown socialism, probably neither is the US.

    251. dblaikie says:

      Once again the polls were totally wrong in the UK. The big important always accurate MRP YouGov poll only had a Conservative majority at around 30 the exit poll has it at 86.

    252. NYCmike says:

      Is that number according to exit polls?

      Or real numbers?

    253. NYCmike says:

      “Trade involves the transfer of goods or services from one person or entity to another………”

      -Now, add the word “FREE”.

      Somewhere, in a Quechuan dictionary, the word “FREE” is defined with a picture of an ostrich with its head buried in the sand.

    254. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Worst labour defeat since since World War II.

      This is happening at a time when Trump’s polling has risen at least in part because the Democratic Party is seen as heading too far to the left. Socialists are sure stupid.

    255. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      257. They are exit polls, but they have a record in England of being extremely accurate.

    256. Phil says:

      Eric Holder says Barr is too political to be AG.

      How rich is that? LOL

    257. Victrc says:

      Sheep

      Dems night see the writing on the wall tonight with UK elections and know the only way to win is to stigmatize him with impeachment with no defections.

    258. jason says:

      How rich is that? LOL”

      Amazing.

    259. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The Conservatives are doing very well in northern working class areas that strongly favored Brexit. These areas normally go heavily for Labour. It is somewhat similar to Trump’s success with Midwest blue collar voters.

    260. janz says:

      #242, SDC, I read the VDH piece this morning, and enjoyed it, as I always do when I peruse his articles. One comment Hanson made was one I’ve also observed, that Trump seems calmer these days, despite all the obnoxious events swirling around him. It’s as if he feels more comfortable and confident in his own skin these days. And, that it’s the Dems who appear unhinged and out of control, as time goes on.

    261. Hugh says:

      261. They will lose either way so might as well stay with your friends.

    262. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Nigel Farage’s decision that his BREXIT party would not contest the over 300 seats held by Conservatives contributed to the Tory victory. And lets not forget that Donald Trump was very active pushing Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage to work together to become an “unstoppable force.” He strongly advocated for the alliance right before it was actually agreed to.

    263. Tina says:

      Janz, a further take, he seems most presidential.

      Breitbart s Nolte tweeted this a few days ago.

      Hopefully, you are staying dry from all of the rain.

    264. janz says:

      My fingers continue to be crossed that Johnson and the Conservatives win what they need to in order to pass Brexit. If this happens I think it will mirror what may happen in the upcoming 2020 election. If history repeats itself, UK’s Brexit vote seem to lead the way for the working class vote going to Trump. I also think there is a legitimate possibility of a blowout minority vote being transferred from the Dems to Trump too.

    265. Tina says:

      Omg, representative guam will tip over wants to impeach trump because he is bigger than the Ukrainian president and had a bigger chair.

      https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1205251185839681542

    266. mRviTO says:

      268

      Well there has already been one seat where Tory plus brexit would have beat Labour substantially…

      Houghton and Sunderland South

      Tory 13095
      Brexit 6165

      Labour 16210

      So maybe they should have withdrawn from all of them.

    267. janz says:

      Tina drove up from S CA yesterday to the North Coast area in soggy conditions. Our place is covered in needles, the sky is only starting to clear a bit, but with days of rain still predicted thru Christmas, It doesn’t look good for getting much outside work done. Your place, I think, is more inland in Sonoma. Ours is right on the coast, 5 miles south of the Mendocino County border where rain is plentiful.

    268. Hugh says:

      Janz. Tories took a surprise seat already. 368 may be the floor.

    269. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      #272- mRv
      In this Country, the Libertarians have been doing this and costing the GOP for decades.
      Brexit= Libertarians

    270. PresidentPaul! says:

      Well thank god that the libertarians, constitution party voters, etc cost the GOP in 2008 and 2012 so we didn’t have the risk of a McCain or Romney presidency.

    271. Hugh says:

      Without the brexit party the tories were going to sell brexit voters out. I’m guessing the tories who ran would have been sellouts in those districts. Farage changed the dynamics totally

    272. PresidentPaul! says:

      Nigel Farage
      @Nigel_Farage
      ·
      29m
      This victory for Boris was hugely helped by us and is far better than the Marxist Corbyn and a second referendum.

    273. PresidentPaul! says:

      McCain would have dumped Dumbass Palin right away anyways and put Kennedy on as his running mate if could get away with it.

      Not sure why she was on that ticket to begin with.

    274. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      272. The alliance only applied to seats the Conservatives held at the time, not to seats held by other parties. BREXIT contested Labour seats. A lot of working class Labour supports would vote for the BREXIT Party, but not the Conservative Party.

    275. PresidentPaul! says:

      What happens to Merkel now? Can’t imagine the Germans like that lady much.

    276. jason says:

      Farage is a moron and has become irrelevant. Good riddance.

      Supposedly he will be used now to warm up some Trump rallies.

      Not too many I hope.

    277. jason says:

      Brexit Party are the British deadenders of this election. The only effect they will have is cost the Tories a couple dozen seats.

    278. jason says:

      Well thank god that the libertarians, constitution party voters, etc cost the GOP in 2008 and 2012 so we didn’t have the risk of a McCain or Romney presidency.”

      This is how these people think.

      But we still have NYC carrying water for the Paulbots here.

    279. Hugh says:

      Jason without the brexit party the conservwould have sold out brexit. They’d been doing it for three years.

    280. jason says:

      BS.

      The Brexit party would never have been able to push Brexit through, the tail doesn’t wag the dog.

      Farage is a deadender moron. He is the Ron Paul of the UK.

    281. jason says:

      Ok President Cup on.

    282. Hugh says:

      I never said they could but they were enough of a threat to the elites in the Conservative party that now there will
      Be a brexit.

    283. jason says:

      Nazi supporter and holocaust denier Bunu can have the floor.

    284. jason says:

      I never said they could but they were enough of a threat to the elites in the Conservative party that now there will be a brexit”

      Sorry, we will have to disagree on that.

      Boris has always been Brexit. He ran on getting Brexit done. He will get it done. I give him the credit, not Farage, a moron.

    285. PresidentPaul! says:

      Hillary Clinton, Chris Steele Allege that, much like Tulsi Gabbord who is charge of trolling Kamala Harris for the Russians, Boris Johnson Is actually A Russian Stooge as well.

      https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/11/hillary-clinton-chris-steele-allege-boris-johnson-is-a-russian-stooge/

    286. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Nigel Farage was the hero of BREXIT. He made it happen, and was the driving force in the 2016 referendum. His speeches at the European Parliament are great entertainment to watch. Johnson would not have become prime minister if Farage had not cleared the path for him.

    287. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Here is Farage at his best speaking at the European Parliament:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDnsbz3wJpY

      Johnson rode into power on a path that Farage created.

    288. lisab says:

      If Brexit wasn’t enough of a blow out slaughter for you, the Ravens are playing the Jets tonight.l

    289. BayernFan says:

      So far it looks like a huge LAB to BRX swing.

    290. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “These are from Matthew Goodwin, a politics professor who specialises in explaining the rise of populism.”

      @GoodwinMJ
      The realignment of Britain’s Conservative Party was an inevitable by-product of the vote for Brexit. Perhaps no other party in the Western world has been as successful at achieving power or adapting in order to return to power. Another example tonight

      Farage opened the door for Johnson. In 2016 Farage spoke at Trump rallies during the election campaign. The three of them actually get along very well.

    291. NYCmike says:

      https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/12/corbynistas-react-to-the-exit-poll-result/

      -Between the clips and the Twitter remarks, it is like “CG”, Robbie, and the rest of the leftist American media are all in England tonight.

    292. NYCmike says:

      Trumps’s tariff/desire for free trade with China stance had nothing to do with an impending deal.

      Farage and the Brexit Party had nothing to do with the large Conservative victory tonight.

      What other pearls of wisdom will jason divulge tonight?

    293. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Watching the election returns in Britain now are as enjoyable as watching the U.S. election returns in November 2016.

      Here is an example of the leftist panic:

      “Ian Murray, who again may end up the only Labour MP in Scotland, has told Jeremy Corbyn to consider resignation, saying Labour lost the election because it had ignored the voters “and delivered the most rightwing Conservative prime minister this country has ever seen.”

      In what is predicted to be a near rerun of the 2015 general election when the SNP won 56 of Scotland’s 59 Westminster seats, Scottish Labour appears on course to lose nearly all the seven seats it won in 2107.

      Murray is expected to retain Edinburgh South, with some party insiders predicting a reduced majority of 6,000, and again sit as the sole Labour MP in Scotland. Speaking before his seat was declared he said:

      The buck always stops with the leadership. I knocked on 11,000 doors [in Edinburgh South] and he has been the problem, and we either acknowledge that and reflect on that and do something about it, or we don’t deserve to be in power. What we have delivered is a majority Tory government.

      We either listen to the public or we lose. We didn’t listen and we’ve lost.”

    294. Tina says:

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      A new Monmouth poll, has @realDonaldTrump’s favorability among independents is double digits higher than any Democrat:

      Trump: 49/48
      Sanders: 39/56
      Biden: 38/57
      Buttigieg: 34/33
      Warren: 32/55
      Bloomberg: 25/56

      This is why they wanna impeach him

    295. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      What is happening in Britain is a preview of what will happen in the U.S. in November 2020. Once the voters understand how radical the Democrats are, they will stay with the devil they know.

    296. Tina says:

      The jebots are starting up in England with the Russian hoaxing

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    297. Bitterlaw says:

      Listening to Corbin. He will continue to support Socialism. Good. Labour can remain a failed party.

    298. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      310. They certainly do need Mueller. It was Trump who interfered in the British election by encouraging the electoral alliance between Johnson and Farage. And if Trump is involved, then Putin must be also. Clearly collusion.

      Also, Pelosi needs to make it a third impeachment charge.

    299. PresidentPaul! says:

      OMFG what is that guy standing behind Johnson looks liek something from sci fi movie.

      They call him lord buckethead. idk who that is.

    300. Bitterlaw says:

      I watched an interview with voters on the BBC. 2 black voters and a white woman who had always voted for Labour, said they voted for the Tories because Corbyn was so repulsive.

    301. BayernFan says:

      Official Monster Raving Loony Party

    302. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Corbyn is refusing to resign. He wants to lead the Labour Party through a period of “reflection.”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxIE5DVIkAI&feature=emb_logo

      Old Bolsheviks never resign — Stalin had to liquidate them. Sanders will be the same way in 2020. He may run as the socialist candidate –particularly if Biden or Buttigieg is the Democratic nominee.

    303. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @SamCoatesSky
      Sky News
      UPDATED FORECAST:

      CON Majority
      Con seats 363-369 (midpoint 366).
      LAB 193-199 (midpoint 196)
      MAJORITY 76-88 (midpoint 82).

      *Labour would have worst result in seats since 1935.
      *Con maj would be bigger than Blair in 2005 and Thatcher’s in 1979

      This is a historical blowout election. The Democrats need keep it in mind when they vote tomorrow on impeachment.

    304. Phil says:

      Looks like Conservatives went in and flipped a bunch of working class districts. Huge inroads there….just like a certain Republican Did in 2016 and will do again in 2020. The similarities of what happened in England and what is happening in the US are hard to ignore.

    305. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      280. “A lot of working class Labour supports would vote for the BREXIT Party, but not the Conservative Party.”

      Nigel Farage?@Nigel_Farage
      Tonight you are going to see lots of seats that the Conservatives will win because we’ve taken the Labour vote that would never vote Tory.

      Nigel Farage?@Nigel_Farage This victory for
      Boris was hugely helped by us and is far better than the Marxist Corbyn and a second referendum.

      Nigel Farage Retweeted
      Richard Tice? @TiceRichard
      The BXP has clearly played a massive role in reducing Labour votes and seats, thus changing the course of political history. Sky already recognise this.

      Keep in mind that Trump played a role in getting Johnson and Farage to cooperate.

    306. lisab says:

      scotland looks like it will want to leave the uk

      the snp crushed the election

    307. lisab says:

      it was so bad on the uk social sites that people were making

      jeb bush jokes

      about labour

    308. John says:

      Trump has now jumped to 47.4% in John Stossel’s Electionbettingodds website to win the 2020 presidency:
      Trump 47.4%
      Biden 12.8%
      Sanders 8.3%
      Buttigieg 6.8%
      Warren 6.5%

      https://electionbettingodds.com/

    309. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      The NY Post becomes the first newspaper to identify the so-called “whistleblower” by name in an editorial.

      https://nypost.com/2019/12/12/heres-the-likely-whistleblower-and-the-questions-he-should-answer/

    310. Bitterlaw says:

      Unless Brexit, Scottish Independence, and Corbyn’s anti-Semitism are huge issues in America next year, last night’s UK results are not predictors of Trump’s re-election.

    311. Hugh says:

      BL. Anti Semitic I think we got that one covered. America First mmmm that’s about like like brexit. UK first. Scottish independence hurt the conservatives as it cost them 7 seats.

    312. jason says:

      Unless Brexit, Scottish Independence, and Corbyn’s anti-Semitism are huge issues in America next year, last night’s UK results are not predictors of Trump’s re-election.”

      Well, you can make a case for “anti-semitic” being very much an issue with the Democrats.

      But even if you ignore that, you left out the far left “manifesto” issued by Labour, full of promises of tax increases, nationalizations, climate change expenditures, and entitlements in general.

      Many commentators mentioned that Labour’s promises of free goodies without the means to pay for it beyond “soak the rich” were not realistic.

      So there ARE parallels. So predictor might not be the right way to put it, but it certainly sounds warning bells for the Dems.’

      Hopefully they are not listening.

    313. jason says:

      All the leftists are talking about how the UK is over and Scotland will be independent.

      Actually, the SNP won a lot of seats in Scotland, but they got 45% of the vote, so it’s not a given they could win a referendum even if Johnson allowed one (he opposes it).

      There may be a second referendum, but it won’t be soon and it will be on Johnson’s terms, not the SNP.

    314. jason says:

      Just because Farage, a moron and pathological liar says something, doesn’t mean it is true.

      He admitted he “ate” his ballot rather than vote Conservative, which is something Bunu would say here.

      As was pointed out last night, he no longer has any role or mandate of any kind and has become irrelevant.

      His role now will be to warm up some Trump rallies.

    315. jason says:

      Trumps’s tariff/desire for free trade with China “stance had nothing to do with an impending deal.”

      Trump wants free trade with China? LOL.

      Farage and the Brexit Party had nothing to do with the large Conservative victory tonight.

      Right. As Mr Vito pointed out, the conservatives lost several seats because of the Brexit party dedenders. The “cooperation” was quite limited. They did help screw the Lib Dems out of some seats by standing down in a few constituencies. So probably was a wash as far as how many seats the Conservatives would have won. To credit Farage and his deadenders with the Conservative victory is pure intellectual dishonest.

      What other pearls of wisdom will jason divulge tonight?

      Stay tuned.

    316. jason says:

      Biden didn’t get Bitter’s message that there are no parallels between the UK and the US election.

      He already announced that the UK election results indicate “only a centrist can win”.

      Of course, describing Biden as a “centrist” is like describing Lenin as “left of center”.

    317. jason says:

      I am sure NYC will condemn Trump for being in collusion with Schumer regarding the AFL-CIO agenda.

      “Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer accuses President Trump of caving to China with the phase one trade deal.
      After Schumer’s comment, Beijing officials announced that the U.S. and China have reached an agreement on text of the preliminary deal and will now move toward signing a deal as quickly as possible.
      Schumer is one of Trump’s biggest Democratic supporters in his efforts to crack down on Chinese trade abuses.”

    318. Hugh says:

      Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer John McDonnell admitted that Labour lost votes because left-wing Leavers switched to the Brexit Party.

    319. jason says:

      “There is no question, of course, that this trade agreement is much better than NAFTA,” Pelosi said, announcing her caucus’ support of the agreement.”

      Well of course it is, Nancy.

      It gives the AFL-CIO a lot of what they want, and it restricts free trade.

      The AFL-CIO conservatives here think Pelosi support this because, hmmm, “Trump is for free trade”.

      The new “Nafta” is the same as the old Nafta, with some of the AFL-CIO agenda thrown in to make it more palatable to the protectionists and isolationists.

    320. Wes says:

      Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer

      After reading this, Mikey had a wet dream.

    321. jason says:

      Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer John McDonnell admitted that Labour lost votes because left-wing Leavers switched to the Brexit Party.”

      They might have lost votes, but they didn’t lose hardly any seats because of the Brexit Party.

      The Brexit Party cost the Conservatives a few seats which went to Labour, but helped the Conservatives win about the same number by shafting a few of the Lib Dems.

      Yes, the Labour Party got punished for trying to straddle Brexit, many of the leave voters in Labour areas felt their wishes were not being respected and voted in largen numbers for Conservatives and in small numbers for the Brexit Party.

      But in the end, the Brexit Party got 2% of the vote, less than the Greens.

      Btw, I saw an interview with Farage yesterday. He said he didn’t support Johnson, he doesn’t agree with the Brexit Johnson is proposing, and the only reason he didn’t want Labour to win was because he didn’t want a second referendum.

      The guy is a complete moron and why some people here want to follow Bunu in praising him is a mystery to me.

    322. jason says:

      Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer

      After reading this, Mikey had a wet dream.”

      Yep, the same Mikey who deemed Rubio a traitorous RINO for shaking Schumer’s hand.

    323. Messy says:

      The first vote is over, The Rules committee will vote tomorrow evening, and according to NBC, the actual impeachment of the President (!) will take place on Wednesday.

      Y’all have been ragging me for years over this,and here we are.

    324. jason says:

      You have been ragged for being an illiterate moron.

      Please get your facts straight.

    325. jason says:

      LOL

      “Rep. Ted Deutch (D-FL) admitted to CNN Friday morning that one of the reasons why Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee decided to delay voting on the impeachment articles is because it was getting too late for people to stay up watching on television.”

      Most people were watching the President’s Cup, including some of the Dems on the committee.

      Democrat Representative Cedric Richmond provided unintentional commentary on the absurdity of the House Judiciary Committee markup sessions yesterday by mentally checking out and watching a golf tournament on his laptop computer as the endless session droned on and on.

      “Democrat Representative Cedric Richmond provided unintentional commentary on the absurdity of the House Judiciary Committee markup sessions yesterday by mentally checking out and watching a golf tournament on his laptop computer as the endless session droned on and on.”

    326. jason says:

      So Messy Moron, still waiting for your prediction on how many votes there will be to convict in the Senate.

      You said Trump would “barely” be acquitted.

      You need 67 to convict if the full senate is present.

      How many will the Dems get?

    327. jason says:

      Y’all have been ragging me for years over this”

      Ahhh, for “years”.

      So it is obvious you were being ragged for predicting Trump would be impeached due to the Mueller hoax investigation.

      After all, Ukraine has only been a few months.

      You are so dumb you can’t keep your lies straight.

    328. Wes says:

      Messy the Moron, when did Brenda Snipes become a Republican?

    329. Scooterboy says:

      337. “Here we are”….Lol

      Here we are, is going nowhere. It’s nothing but a sham.
      1. Trump will not be removed from office
      2. According to the polls, the public is tuning out, and the one’s who are paying attention are turning on the Dems.

      I predict this is going to end up being a massive political blunder by the Dems.

    330. lisab says:

      and messy just admitted the dems have been planning this for years …

      and thus is purely political based on the dems are snowflakes and butthurt because hillary lost in 2020

      we already knew this … but at least now messy admits it

    331. mRviTO says:

      Pretty sure everyone here has said the Democrats have been trying to force this through sine 2016…

      “So here we are.”

      Unfortunately, “impeachment” no longer means anything… it would have if it were bipartisan.

      Now it is like getting overcharged by an idiot prosecutor only to have the case thrown out.

      The only people for these articles are the same ones who just got embarrassed by the IG report.

    332. mRviTO says:

      The only question will be whether McConnell holds a vote to throw it out on the merits, or allows the Democrats to embarrass themselves with a trial.

      He said he will defer to the President’s lawyers.

    333. jason says:

      Some in the MSM are criticizing Trump for “not getting enough” out of the trade war.

      Not me.

      Since I am for free trade, the less he and the AFL-CIO get the better.

    334. jason says:

      55-45″

      I assume that if 55 against, 45 for impeachment.

      Since you need 67 votes, how is that “barely”?

    335. jason says:

      Or do you think 55 for impeachment, meaning 8 Rs will vote for it and no Dem against.

    336. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      Messy
      Please name the eight GOP Senators who will vote to remove Trump on at least one of the Impeachment Articles. With great anticipation, we await your reply.

    337. jason says:

      My doorknob is smarter than Messy.

      But in all fairness, my doorknob is smarter than most doorknobs.

    338. Tina says:

      But the federal bureau of incompetence is so smart

      @ChuckRossDC
      NEW: Crossfire Hurricane team, which kicked over every rock to find evidence of Trump campaign links to Russia, didn’t know that Chris Steele was himself working for a Russian oligarch.

    339. Tina says:

      Seems like Obama’s fib colluded with the Russians

      The fib interfered in our elections.

      Their interference was greater than the Russian bots in their tidy whities doing Facebook ads that nobody saw.

    340. jason says:

      Biden said: “Look what happens when the Labour Party moves so, so far to the left. It comes up with ideas that are not able to be contained within a rational basis quickly.”

      So why have you embraced every kooky idea proposed so far….

    341. PresidentPaul! says:

      The left is doing all day rallies against the Tories in London today.

      Seems like the scheduled the rallies for the incorrect day.

    342. Victrc says:

      Seems like the NeverTrump crowd is just as moronic as the left in this country

      Weld is now saying that there are six gop senators for convicting Trump, and if that’s not enough, he’s claiming Ukraine call was treason and Trump should receive the death penalty. I kid you not!

      https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5df34c1ce4b0ca713e5d0fb5

    343. Phil says:

      I see Weld is still drunk.

    344. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      BREAKING: This is a smart move by SCOTUS in order to let things come down after the impeachment travesty.

      https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2019/12/13/breaking-scotus-will-decide-on-the-release-of-president-trumps-financial-records/

    345. John says:

      I’m actually looking forward to the State of the Union by President Trump probably sometime in February and what will he say to the House Democrats in front of their faces and in front of the whole country.
      More popcorn please.

    346. NYCmike says:

      He should turn around and mimic Pelosi’s sarcastic clap from last year.

      And tell her to make him a sandwich.

    347. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Wisconsin General Election:

      Biden 47 (+1)
      Trump 46

      Trump 45 (+1)
      Warren 44

      Trump 44 (+1)
      Buttigieg 43

      Trump 44 (+1)
      Booker 43

      Trump 47 (+2)
      Sanders 45

      @MULawPoll

    348. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @RyanGirdusky
      Dec 10
      According to new Monmouth poll, Trump’s favorability among independents is double digits higher than any Democrat:

      Trump: 49/48
      Sanders: 39/56
      Biden: 38/57
      Buttigieg: 34/33
      Warren: 32/55
      Bloomberg: 25/56

    349. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Global warming and sea level rise has become a real problem in Bogo Pogo, and there are reports that concerned troll has floated away.

    350. lisab says:

      nah … it is just the dems don’t have a coherent message these days

      once the talking points come out they will be back

    351. mRviTO says:

      Nah… it’s just the talking points are so ridiculous that only trolls like messy could be dumb enough to repeat them.

    352. Cash Cow TM says:

      I, the Cow, got a phone call today from someone I did not know.
      THEM: “Hally Frickin-Looyah!
      They just voted to impeach Trump.”

      COW: “I’m sorry, you must have the wrong number.
      Hally Frickin-Looyah does not live here.
      Just me, the cow.”

    353. Tina says:

      Thinking the Supreme Court will slap down the Drats big time regarding trumps taxes. The house request must be predicated on a legit legislative purpose. There there are only two valid purposes, both constrained to legislative powers:

      1. An inquiry into making, repealing, or amending an A1§8 law.
      2. Oversight of executive administration of an existing law.

    354. lisab says:

      Poll: Most people would rather be annihilated by a giant tidal wave than continue to be lectured by climate change alarmist

    355. NYCmike says:

      lisab,

      Babylon Bee, correct?

      Please add the link so people can check out for themselves.

    356. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Former Daily Mirror editor Piers Morgan warned also about the Twitter bubble, and that Democrats should be careful about picking someone too far on the fringes.
      “Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren both share Jeremy Corbyn’s socialist agenda and both appear to be as popular as him on Twitter,” Morgan said in an op-ed. “But Twitter’s not the real world.”
      He also drew comparisons between the British Left’s effort to thwart Brexit and the Democratic push to impeach Trump, rather than beat him at the ballot box.
      “Those who voted for Brexit and Trump don’t take kindly to their democratic vote being abused in this way and their retribution comes at the ballot box,” he said. “If people think Boris Johnson’s earthquake was big, just wait until the Senate acquits President Trump and he uses that victory to storm to re-election.””

    357. lisab says:

      Democrats vow to not allow American voters to ever interfere in elections

    358. lisab says:

      Dems Vow To Learn From Labour Party’s Mistake Of Not Going Far Enough Left

    359. lisab says:

      ‘You Have Stolen My Dreams And My Childhood,’ Says Girl Currently Gracing Cover Of Time Magazine

    360. lisab says:

      House Dems Unveil Surefire Plan To Get Trump Reelected

    361. lisab says:

      Wise Man Who Brought Myrrh Thought They All Agreed On A Spending Limit

    362. lisab says:

      Historians Now Believe King Solomon Gave Each Of His Wives, Concubines A Peloton Exercise Bike

    363. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      Of the 31 Democrats in Districts carried by Trump, a number of them last night came out in favor of both impeachment articles. They are:
      O’Halleran -AZ
      Rose- NY
      Lamb- PA
      McBath- GA

      No one has come out Against.

      What a surprise__NOT_ especially when Madam Pelosi wants us to believe that she is NOT whipping the vote!

    364. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      #381
      Add: Susie Lee- NV

    365. Tina says:

      The obstruction of congress impeachment charge was very weak to begin with. There is no such thing.

      According to professor D, this charge is voided by the Sc decision to take up the matter in March of 2020. Trump will prevail for the reasons I outlined about,

      Seems like the executive going to the judiciary branch in a dispute is proper and correct, and not “obstruction.”

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/breaking-supreme-court-removes-second-house-impeachment-charge-against-president-trump-harvard-lawyer-alan-dershowitz-explains-video/

    366. Hugh says:

      The 31 dems will likely lose their jobs no matter what. Do they want ant to lose staying friends with their liberal friends or lose and be hated. In surprised two of them will vote no. Maybe a couple others who have true character which politicians are not known for might vote no as well.

    367. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      Wes and So Hope:

      The Wall Street Editorial Board confirms my conclusion that Sen. Burr “surrendered” the Senate Intelligence Committee to Dem. Senator Mark Warner during the Mueller investigation.

      A Burr in Nunes? Saddle: The North Carolina Senator was wrong about the FISA order.

      It seems obvious to me that Burr is headed for retirement and is just winging it right now.

      We,Tar Heels, can do better than him–Tillis is OK– just like our State neighbor, TN, replaced the insufferable Bob Corker with the dynamic Marsha Blackburn.

    368. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      #384
      Good analysis, Hugh. The only two Democrat Congresscreatures who could vote AGAINST impeachment are Horn in OK and Cunningham in SC. If either or both vote yes, they will have forfeited any chance of winning statewide office in their Red States.

    369. dblaikie says:

      Here it a bit of information — in the last 4 months Drudge has hemorrhaged 28% of it’s readers.

    370. PresidentPaul! says:

      If it’s that close it will come down to organization and students etc since Iowa is a caucus. Same thing that happened when Obama won there over Hillary and other caucuses.

    371. dblaikie says:

      I have always believed in Free Trade and still do. Tariffs are a definite drag and negative for economic growth. But I believe that Trump has taught us something. If one economy is stronger than another and the two have trade issues the stronger economy can weaponize it’s economic strength through tariffs. That doesn’t change the fact that the stronger econ. will have negative consequences, but it will do far more damage to the economy that is weaker. Somehow I think Trump saw that China was vulnerable in this regard and he hit them hard.

      I would like to have Jason’s view on this since I think he is the most passionate Free Trader on this site. Frankly, as a Free Trader myself I am just trying to get my head around this and would be very interested in a critique of the above paragraph. So Jason I look forward to your argument telling me your current thinking.

    372. dblaikie says:

      For what it is worth Hannity said that he has heard that there could be 8 votes. However Sheeple makes a valid point.

    373. dblaikie says:

      If she had her way Nancy wouldn’t want to lose no more than the two original votes that voted no to proceed with Impeachment articles. Will see if any of those others will have the guts to vote no?

    374. Wes says:

      Sheep, Burr announced his retirement about the time he won re-election. He hasn’t had any further electoral ambitions for awhile now.

    375. Phil says:

      Besides Peterson there are four Democrats from districts won by Trump by double digits. It may just be that all four come to the conclusion that they are dead men walking anyway and might as well walk the plank. Depends on how much they are being offered by their liberal friends for their post political careers.

    376. PresidentPaul! says:

      China is more vulnerable economically, but Trump is up for reelection next year. Xi is not up for reelection or reappointment until 2024. Not only that but he is not politically accountable for anything. He could kill 50 million ppl and he probably would not be accountable or “lose reelection.”

      https://chinatribunal.com/

      China Tribunal who was involved in convicting slobodan milosevic recently found that China is guilty of forced and live human organ harvesting. They in fact have mass graves outside these internment where they dump the dead muslims after they finish the harvesting for weathy chinese recipients.

    377. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      #390-dbl
      Add Democrat Ben McAdams(UT-4) to my list in #386. I believe he carried his District in 2018 by about 700 votes against Mia Love.

    378. PresidentPaul! says:

      If they weren’t already in semi recession along with total chaos in Hong Kong they probably would have ignored entirely.

    379. jason says:

      Alan Dershowitz”

      “Look, the most important development happened today. The Supreme Court of the United States absolutely pulled the rug out of part two of the impeachment referral by granting certiorari, by granting review in a case where Trump challenged a congressional subpoena. And the Supreme Court said we’re going to hear this case.…Think of what that message is – It’s Trump was right.

      You don’t have to comply with a subpoena of Congress unless a court tells you you have to comply. Now, we don’t know how the Supreme Court is going to come out, but they made it clear that’s a viable issue. So that charge, that ground of impeachment, should be immediately removed by the House and not sent to the Senate. There’s nothing to it anymore after the Supreme Court today said you’re entitled to a review on an issue when the President challenges the subpoena power of Congress. It’s all done. It’s over.”

    380. jason says:

      Bunu, go back to Stormfront or whatever Nazi cesspool you were hiding out at for the last couple years.

      Thanks.

    381. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      Senator Josh Hawley(R-MO) is truly someone to watch as a future Presidential candidate. Watch his questioning at the Horowitz hearing–incisive and flawless!

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/must-watch-senator-josh-hawley-calls-out-the-fbi-over-their-collusion-with-the-dnc/

    382. Tgca says:

      Cuatro Cientos.

      Aye un papi!

    383. jason says:

      estas loco… es cuatrocientos uno

    384. PresidentPaul! says:

      I’m seeing a major fracturing within the democrat party so that there is basically two parties at this point the socialists and then the old guard put the genie back in the bottle Biden.

      I’m thinking Biden might be the weaker direction since I don’t think he will be able to excite the base much like Hillary was not able to.

    385. Hugh says:

      393. Completely correct

    386. Tgca says:

      Callate la boca…pootah!

    387. lisab says:

      moves like bloomberg

      https://twitter.com/bradfordevans/status/1205532878035025921

      bloomberg is washing this from the internet as quick as he can

    388. lisab says:

      Dems Warn Virginia Sheriffs Refusing To Enforce Gun-Control Laws: We’ll Send In The National Guard

    389. lisab says:

      Hunter Biden’s Wife Melissa Cohen Is Pregnant

    390. mRviTO says:

      “My opinion is that as more info comes out it’ll become increasingly clear that the target was the 50 children at the Yeshiva attached to that store,” the mayor wrote on Twitter just after 8 a.m. “We will never know 100% but the doorway to the yeshiva was 3 feet away (and) it seems he goes in that direction 1st.”

      https://www.nj.com/news/2019/12/shooters-were-targeting-50-children-in-yeshiva-next-to-grocery-store-jersey-city-mayor-speculates.html

    391. lisab says:

      Greta Thunberg Says We Will ‘Put World Leaders Against the Wall’

      Greta Thunberg told cheering protesters today ‘we will make sure we put world leaders against the wall’ if they fail to take urgent action on climate change.

      The Swedish teen activist was addressing the crowd at a Fridays for Future protest in Turin, Italy.

      She arrived there from Madrid where she had been attending the UN climate summit but said she feared the event would not lead to change.

    392. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      BREAKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Republicans to gain a House seat. Jeff Van Drew(D-NJ) intends to switch Parties to the GOP.

      http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3800902/posts

    393. Bitterlaw says:

      Congratulations to Navy. Army-Navy game is the best college football game of the year. Better than watching NFL minor league teams than Alabama, Ohio State, etc.

    394. BayernFan says:

      411….

      Drudge of old would have been all over that.

    395. Wes says:

      Van Drew’s switch is the first unalloyed victory Republicans have had under Trump. I can only hope it’s the first of many.

    396. Phil says:

      Drudge? Oh yeah, I remember him. He’s the guy who runs the site that has lost 28% of his traffic since the summer.

    397. Bitterlaw says:

      Maybe if Drudge pretended that Trump is not going to be impeached the 28% will come back. He doesn’t realize he needs to be the Pro-Trump Pravda.

    398. Phil says:

      More like anti Trump Pravda. As if the MSM needed any more help. No doubt his marketing strategy since August is pure genius.

    399. Bitterlaw says:

      At least Phil has dropped the call for “balance.” He wants a right wing MSNBC.

    400. lisab says:

      Bernie Rescinds Endorsement Of Dem Candidate After “Legalize Bestiality” Video Resurfaces

    401. Tina says:

      Soviet Schiffty encounters some upset Ca Trump voters. Looks like his speech to his fellow commies was interrupted:

      https://twitter.com/lawyer4laws/status/1206038277138063360

    402. Tina says:

      Who cares about Sludge. There are better sites than his,

      He will continue to bleed his audience.

    403. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      Democrat Congressman Colin Petersen of Minnesota confirms that he is a NO vote on impeachment. He claims that up to 5 more Democrats will do likewise.

      https://www.wctrib.com/news/government-and-politics/4823607-Barring-new-information-Rep.-Collin-Peterson-will-not-vote-for-impeachment

    404. Wes says:

      Colin Peterson knows his CD is trending out from under him. Pelosi will let him vote nay because no other Dem has a chance in Hell of winning that seat. That Dems are doing this may doom him anyway. I expect Peterson to be the Chet Edwards of a cycle in the none-too-distant future.

    405. lisab says:

      check the “woman’s” name
      ——————————————
      Lawrence woman accused of sexually exploiting 4-year-old

      BOSTON (WHDH) – A Lawrence woman was arrested Wednesday night after authorities say she sexually exploited a 4-year-old and sent obscene material via an instant messaging app.

      Jakob Nieves, who also goes by Dakota, was charged in federal court in Boston on one count of sexual exploitation of a child and one count of distribution of child pornography, according to the U.S. Attorney’s Office.

      An undercover federal agent allegedly communicated with Nieves via Kik messenger as part of an investigation into the use of the app for the trade of child pornography.

      Over the course of those conversations, Nieves sent the agent images and videos that show her sexually abusing a child, officials said.