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Biden Leads Trump in FL/VA, Trumps Leads All Other Dems

It has been a little while and I’ve stayed mostly away from politics but the nee year is upon us tomorrow and in honor of the Orange Bowl match up between Florida and Virginia, Mason-Dixon Polling released General Election polling for both states that shows if Democrats want to win in 2020, they may need to settle for Joe Biden as their nominee.

PRESIDENT – FLORIDA (Mason-Dixon)
Joe Biden (D) 47%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 45%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 49%
Bernie Sanders (D) 44%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 51%
Elizabeth Warren 42% (D)

Donald Trump (R-inc) 49%
Pete Buttigieg (D) 45%

PRESIDENT – VIRGINIA (Mason-Dixon)
Joe Biden (D) 49%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 45%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 51%
Bernie Sanders (D) 45%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 48%
Elizabeth Warren (D) 44%

Donald Trump (R-inc) 47%
Pete Buttigieg (D) 45%

The FL poll was done December 11-16 and the VA poll was done December 12-16 among 625 registered voters in both states.

Happy New Year!

Posted by Dave at 12:45 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (1,212)

1,212 Responses to “Biden Leads Trump in FL/VA, Trumps Leads All Other Dems”

  1. jason says:

    Happy New Year!

  2. JulStol says:

    1
    Happy New Year!

  3. JulStol says:

    Damn. Jason was a little faster on the draw 😉

  4. jason says:

    I think my prediction that Trump would carry 40 states against Bernie is still on target.

  5. gameboy says:

    He’ll take 33-34 states versus Biden

  6. jason says:

    Calling terrorists “mourners” gets you results like these….

    “CNN’s beleaguered media show “Reliable Sources” with Brian Stelter hit an embarrassing new low on Dec. 22, when it averaged only 85,000 viewers among a key age group.

    Stelter regularly touts the significance of the news demographic of adults age 25-54 but the dismal performance marked his lowest viewership of 2019 in the category.”

  7. Wobbles says:

    I always think of CNN when I read the words “reliable sources”.

  8. Tina says:

    Apparently this mourner was invited to the White House;

    M. Hanif Jazayeri
    @HanifJazayeri
    · 2h
    Did you know Badr Corps chief Hadi Ameri, who led today’s raid on the US Embassy in Iraq, was once invited to the @WhiteHouse by @BarackObama?
    FYI: Ameri & the Badr Corps get their salary & orders from Iran’s dictator Ali Khamenei.

  9. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Wes:
    This is good news out of New Hampshire. Who does the GOP have in the NH Senate race to face Shaheen?

    https://www.marketwatch.com/story/corey-lewandowski-the-former-trump-campaign-manager-drops-idea-of-senate-run-2019-12-31?link=MW_latest_news

  10. New York CIty says:

    Are you guys against the primary system? Lewandowski would be sure to lose, but the message would be worth it.

  11. Wes says:

    Sheep, on paper, Bolduc looks like the best candidate. He’s a solid B-lister. Whether any Republican has a chance in increasingly liberal NH is unclear; however, Bolduc seems to have the best bio and looks like the strongest possible pick, though he’s a tabula rasa unproven in politics.

  12. Cash Cow TM says:

    BTW….

    What two teams are playing in the Hyperbole this year?

  13. Cash Cow TM says:

    CNN does not have ‘reliable sources’…
    The have ‘reliable sauces.’

  14. Tina says:

    The jebots claim that the mullahs attempting to seize our embassy in Iraq (details fuzzy) is the same as Benghazi.

    Let’s see:

    Embassy reinforced by military.

    Air power.

    No Cia running weapons into Syria

    President threatens the enemy.

    I am not sure how the Jebots are confusing the two.

  15. NYCmike says:

    “What two teams are playing in the Hyperbole this year?”

    -Trump University vs Wes-leyan

  16. Tina says:

    One big difference

    Us Embassy in Iraq asked for help and got it.

    Us embassy in Benghazi asked for help and did not get it.
    Incident blamed on you tube.

  17. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina – Given the attack on our embassy, would it be ok to use a little force in retaliation or would that warmongering?

  18. Bitterlaw says:

    Happy New Year to all. Is it 2020 for our alleged German poster who really lives in Ohio rather than Germany – Bonncaruso?

  19. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor told Fox News’ “Tucker Carlson Tonight” that Sunday’s U.S. airstrikes in Iraq and Syria are an attempt to involve American forces in another Middle Eastern war.”

    He believes it was a sinister plot that the U.S. airstrikes bombed Iranian allies command centers 250/300 miles away that have been coordinating the attacks against U.S. military targets; instead of hitting limited (and militarily insignificant) targets around Kirkuk, near where the American contractor was killed and the American troops injured. He says the Iranian supported command centers we hit were involved with destroying ISIS so we should not be attacking them, despite the fact they were planning attacks to kill Americans.

    This is utter drivel. It is ridiculous that Tucker Carlson gives this idiot credibility. 9/11 should have taught Americans that when you ignore successive terrorist attacks, it emboldens the terrorists to get more brazen.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/col-macgregor-trump-the-only-thing-standing-between-us-and-another-pointless-war

  20. Tina says:

    Bl, I think you know the answer to your question.

    May your eagles lose.

    Happy New Year

  21. Bitterlaw says:

    So Tina is once again against military force. Got it.

  22. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    21. Given Tina’s posts above, not sure your assumption is right.

  23. NYCmike says:

    Looks like in 2020, Bitterlaw will continue to make ridiculous assumptions.

    I’ll buy him an egg creme anyway!

  24. NYCmike says:

    Happy New Years to ALL!

    See you next year!

  25. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Lets not forget that it was Obama who provided significant funding to Iran after a U.S. gunboat was seized. As Pompeo stated on Fox News:

    “Pompeo criticized the Obama administration, appears to make a veiled reference to its nighttime delivery of hundreds of millions of dollars in cash to Tehran — telling Emanuel that President Trump came into office with a newly flush Rouhani government able to fund terrorism and nuclear enrichment.”

    $400 million dollars was received by Iran the day the U.S. captives were released. The Iranians boosted of receiving it as ransom for the soldiers.

  26. Bitterlaw says:

    With any luck, NYC, this will be my last New Year’s Eve.

  27. Victrc says:

    Bitter. We hopenits not. While life may seem hard some times death is forever and in it there are no chances to kiss your loved ones just one more time, And trust me, they will give almost anything to have one more day with you once you’re gone.

    Happy Nee Year to you all. May you all have a magnificent new year

  28. Tgca says:

    27. Can I have your sweaters? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeez.

  29. lisab says:

    oh … you don’t want his sweaters

  30. Bitterlaw says:

    There is one sweater in the back of my closet. It still has the store tag on it. I never wore it. It was a gift from my wife 10 years ago.

  31. lisab says:

    then there is his salmon coloured shirts

  32. Cash Cow TM says:

    HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL YOU GOOSES!

    May the new year be filled with hope, joy and nothing but pleasant surprises.

    May you each receive ten fold what you expect.

    Walt is planning to celebrate his 1.6% increase in his 2020 Soc. Sec. checks.

  33. Bitterlaw says:

    If Walt had not had not had his retirement funds seized by the Vikings, he would not be concerned about Social Security.

  34. John says:

    According to RedState this aforementioned poll done by Mason-Dixon was a ‘D+12’.
    I know that Old Dominion has turned blue but D+12 blue?
    https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/12/31/unexpected-new-poll-shows-trump-winning-in…virginia

  35. Wes says:

    I’m preemptively wishing everyone a happy New Year.

  36. Phil says:

    Exits in 2016 had it D plus 7 in Virginia. 40-33

  37. lisab says:

    Buttigieg wants to replace ‘bigoted, patriarchal’ standard alphabet with gay one He believes that, if he becomes president, he can usher in the anti-cis-heteronormative renaissance.

    “Thinking about heteronormative cis-structures that run rampant in today’s society, the kind that indoctrinates children into a world of patriarchal subjugation, it occurred to me how their first lessons in these power dynamics happen. Self-righteous, gay-hating, anti-feminist teachers since the early Christian empires have used the standard alphabet to suppress the homosexual aspirations of our anti-racist children. Furthermore, they entrap the beautiful rainbow wills of their bright adolescents and practically force them into hetero-monogamy, thus never allowing these dazzling souls to discover the lovely world of polyamorous unicorn drag. This must stop!”

    Buttigieg then advanced an education agenda that he feels certain will unleash the muzzled gayness of all the nation’s children. His campaign manager unveiled it during a town hall meeting. After careful deliberation with the nation’s progressive teachers, Mayor Pete has come to the conclusion that if we are to maximize the gayness of American kids then we must start by abolishing the standard alphabet and replace it with the ever-expanding gay one.

    Even ten years ago, this could not have even been considered since the gay alphabet contained only four dreary letters. There is no conceivable way to teach children literacy from that insubstantial letter bank, but as progress is made and more letters are added to the LGBTQRSTUVAZB+++ acronym, the much more progressive alphabet has become a beautiful (and inclusive) education option.

  38. lisab says:

    Opinion: How can I impose my values on you if you are armed to the teeth?

  39. lisab says:

    AOC demands they change Black Friday next year to ‘Friday of Color’

  40. lisab says:

    BREAKING: Rep. Omar and husband to divorce, agree to see other siblings in 2020

  41. Bitterlaw says:

    GFY*

    *First GFY of the decade.

  42. lisab says:

    Scientists baffled as to why straight men prefer biological women over trans-women

  43. PresidentPaul! says:

    Happy New Year and into 2020!
    Cam Harvey says code Red!

    “Bloomberg: It’s not that bad

    Harvey: It’s bad

    Bloomberg: So you’re saying there’s a chance it could still be good?”

  44. PresidentPaul! says:

    If war-cheerleader Hillary had won, Yellen would have been reappointed as well as her deep stage thugs. We’d already be done with QE4 official and starting on QE5 rocking and rolling into her reelection campaign to control the masses.

    What a scam.

  45. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    2020 Electoral map based on RCP average Polls:

    Biden 322
    Trump 166
    Tossups 50

    Sanders 265
    Trump 257
    Tossups 16

    Trump 257
    Warren 251
    Tossups 30

  46. Tgca says:

    Hello.

    Hello?

    Helloooooooooo?

    Anyone want to discuss ABORTION?

    So I read there were an estimated 42M ABORTIONS in 2019. *sigh*

  47. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Anyone want to discuss ABORTION?”

    Nah! We have run out of beer at my New Years Party; are heading up to a party on the rooftop that has a better supply. There are times you have to really appreciate millennials!

  48. Bitterlaw says:

    SDC – But they probably only had Blue Moon. Not worth it.

  49. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    49. Actually great time on the rooftop. We were the only gays there. Being millennials, most of them headed off to a strip club just a while ago. But one heck of a good time with them. I had Modelo beer and wine. These are people I wanted to get to know, so worked out well

  50. jason says:

    Hey, Bunu, GFY*

    *second HHR GFY of 2020, but first for me.

  51. jason says:

    Yellen would have been reappointed as well as her deep stage thugs.”

    Paulbots believe Ron Paul is a conservative, so “deep stage” is not that farfetched.

  52. jason says:

    know that Old Dominion has turned blue but D+12 blue?”

    Trump only lost it by 5, and that was with Gary Johnson getting 3 and McMullin 1.5 (150k voters between them, Trump lost by 210k). Hillary did not even get to 50%.

    And even the mother (father?) of all deadenders Corey Stewart got 41%.

    +12 seems high.
    Will be tough against Biden, but competitive against the other socialists.

  53. Tgca says:

    I don’t approve of alcohol…beer especially, it’s the Devil’s brew…designed to corrupt you. Alcohol makes people do stoopid things.

    I always let folks know up front

    Lips that touch wine shall NEVER touch mine!

    …they’re like…WHAT EVAH! *GULP! GULP! GULP!*

  54. Tgca says:

    True Confession #1

    I went on a date in San Francisco back in the day with a nice fellow who had previously been in the military. Had dinner at a nice Italian restaurant in North Beach, the Italian neighborhood of the city. Then we were looking to hang out with drinks afterwards and ended up in a strip club ….umm…or as I was raised to reference them in my classy Jersey upbringing…t*tty bar.

    It was an interesting night. We ended up each with a topless gal on both of our sides chatting the night away…and buying expensive drinks.

    Oh…to be young and stoopid again and drink alcohol, eat meat, and live in CA.

  55. jason says:

    Drinking alcohol and eating meat is stupid?

    Well, waking up after the Laphroaig, Grey Goose and champagne last night I can almost agree that… nahhhhhhhhhh.. i do feel better after a pitcher of bloody marys.

    I can see the living in CA as stupid, however.

  56. Tina says:

    What was the name of the restaurant?,tg?

  57. Tina says:

    They are triggered by Rudy insisting that he handle a Rico case against the Bidens,

    They are losing their sheot,

  58. Tina says:

    Wow take a look at legal RICO definition here: https://criminal-law.freeadvice.com/criminal-law/criminal-law/rico-cases.htm

    18 U.S. Code 1961 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1961 … The DS is screwed.

    “(1) “racketeering activity” means (A) any act or threat involving murder, kidnapping, gambling, arson, robbery, bribery, extortion…”

  59. John says:

    #53
    Thanks what I don’t understand. Remember that Hillary won Virginia in 2016 by approx. 112,000 votes out of 3,750,000 votes cast and that’s with Tim Kained (D-Senator and for D-for Governor on her ticket)

  60. Wes says:

    VA won’t be D+12, but Trump won’t carry it. The Commonwealth stampeded left starting in 2005 with Republicans last winning statewide office in 2009. Trump himself did worse than Romney in 2016 both in percentage and in numbers while Hillary gained slightly over Obama’s 2012 vote total despite garnering a lower percentage of the vote.

    NoVA and Richmond are the state’s primary population centers and loathe Trump passionately. Meanwhile Trump runs best in increasingly sparsely populated areas. (This is a companion to the problem he will face in PA, where Dem strongholds are gaining population while Trump areas are losing people.) He may make up ground there next year, but unless the Dems completely melt down, the Old Dominion is as much a lock to vote Dem as the Bay State.

  61. jason says:

    Remember that Hillary won Virginia in 2016 by approx. 112,000 votes out of 3,750,000 votes cast and that’s with Tim Kained (D-Senator and for D-for Governor on her ticket)”

    No. She won by 212k.

    Hillary 1.981 million
    Trump 1.769 million
    Johnson 118 thousand
    McMullin 54 thousand
    Write-ins 31 thousand
    Stein 27 thousand

  62. jason says:

    I am taking bets that Trump wins VA if Sanders is the nominee.

  63. Wes says:

    Trump can start packing his bags now:

    Karl Rove—he of the infamous on-air meltdown claiming Obama didn’t actually carry Ohio in 2012—has declared Trump will win re-election.

    That means Dems have a 99.999999% chance of ousting Trump in November.

  64. jason says:

    Rove has been wrong but he has also been right.

    I would worry more about Bob “May I be the first to call you Mr. President” Shrum, Dick Morris, Bunu, or Proud Obamacon predicting Trump’s win.

  65. jason says:

    I was worried Paul might win Iowa until Bunu declared “Iowa is Paul country”.

    Slept like a baby after that.

  66. jason says:

    The hurdle for Trump in VA.

    Fairfax Co.

    Hillary Clinton Democratic 355,133 64.43%
    Donald J. Trump Republican 157,710 28.61%

  67. jason says:

    Trump virtually tied Hillary in the rest of the state.

  68. lisab says:

    Hillary Clinton Slams Trump For Not Taking A More ‘Hands-Off’ Approach To Embassy Attack

    WASHINGTON, D.C—Hillary Clinton has slammed President Trump on Twitter for not taking a more “hands-off” approach to the protests in Iraq that threatened American lives at the embassy there.

    After Trump quickly sent Marines to defend Americans trapped at the embassy, Clinton immediately blasted him for taking such “rash, uncalled-for” action when he could have just “waited around a while to see what happens.”

    “If I were president, I definitely would have let things play out,” she said. “Sending American troops to protect American lives seems a little hasty. What if you need to get a little shut-eye or recharge in your lizard person spawning chamber for a few hours?”

    “I would have slept on it first.”

    She later admitted her criticisms might not matter, because, “What difference, at this point, does it make?”

    Meanwhile, Americans under siege at the embassy took a few moments to thank God that Hillary Clinton is not the president of the United States.

  69. lisab says:

    Neither “R Senator” complained about due process rights, 6th amendment violations, etc.in the house.
    ————-

    both are being targeted by the dems

  70. lisab says:

    Elizabeth Warren Opens Casino To Help Finance Campaign

    U.S.—With campaign contributions down 30% in the last quarter, you might think it’s time for Elizabeth Warren to throw in the tomahawk. But not this brave Native American warrior!

    “After spending several minutes digging deep into my rich 1/1024th Cherokee heritage, and communing with my spirit animal –you know, like we genuine Indians do all the time,” Warren announced at a recent campaign rally, “I feel the spirits of my ancestors guiding me to open a brand new casino; complete with a buffet, generous slots, and the hottest shows in history!”

  71. jason says:

    Neither “R Senator” complained about due process rights, 6th amendment violations, etc.in the house.”

    Actually, to be fair, both were quite critical of the house process

  72. jason says:

    “Collins, like Murkowski, criticized House Democrats for impeaching Trump without going through court proceedings to enforce subpoenas that the White House was blocking.”

    Collins also said the trial should follow the Clinton trial, which in fact only allowed 3 depositions and no live witnesses.

  73. jason says:

    Collins also said the trial should start Jan 2, and she is “baffled” by Pelosi’s failure to send the articles to the Senate.

  74. Wes says:

    lisab says:
    January 1, 2020 at 3:21 pm
    Neither “R Senator” complained about due process rights, 6th amendment violations, etc.in the house.
    ————-

    both are being targeted by the dems

    Murkowski is a Republican Senator in a GOP-heavy state. She’s also not up till 2022.

    The strongest Dem running against Collins has ethics issues.

  75. Tina says:

    I have no hope for Senator planned parenthood.

    Still think the Maine Chicklet is for the rule of law and hates the noted violations and defects by the house drats

  76. Tina says:

    After this, let’s cut by 3/4rds all foreign aid. I actually would be for eliminating it all, but have to keep some Rinos on board.

    NSC chief slashing Obama’s ‘bloated’ staff to create efficient, tight-lipped White House operation https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/dec/31/robert-obrien-cuts-national-security-council-staff/ … via @washtimes

  77. Tina says:

    Let’s hope for a brokered convention for the drats in 2020.

    I am sure the Jebot expert on brokered conventions will opine.

  78. Phil says:

    Collins won’t vote to remove Trump. No way. She would be DOA in November. She can’t afford to have the Republican base furious at her on Election Day. A Collins vote to convict Trump is nothing but a CNN wet dream. As far as Murkowski I could see that happening. Maybe a 40% chance. Her outrageous vote against Kavanaugh based on the non existent case against him shows what she is capable of. She hates Trump with a passion and craves the adulation of the Washington establishment and their MSM puppets. Still, the case for removal is extremely weak and she knows it.

    Back to Collins, she is trying to make noises to show how she values “a fair trial” in the senate to position herself as an “unbiased juror” to gain favor with November swing voters. It’s positioning and nothing more.

    Manchin is a no for sure. Come on. Trump carried WV by 42 points. Jones? Who knows? He knows he’s a dead man walking and now with Sessions in the race he really knows he is toast regardless of how he votes. If he figures his future in Bama politics is over anyway he is a yes to convict. If he thinks he can run for state wide office later he is a no. The senator from Arizona would like to be a no to preserve her carefully cultivated image as a bipartisan figure but the pressure from the left will be too much. She votes yes to convict in the end.

    The only drama is whether the Democrats can muster 45 or 46 votes to convict. Given that unpleasant state of affairs (from the Dems point of view at least), I could possibly see Pelosi holding the the articles for quite some time, even through the election. She doesn’t want to give Trump an acquittal. Unfortunately for her holding on to the articles would simply reinforce the Republican narrative that this whole process has, and is, nothing but a political game…..and voters don’t like that. Soooooo the Democrats are damned if they do and damned if they don’t. NICE WORK, Nancy. LOL.

  79. Will says:

    I believe Collins voted against conviction/removal in the Clinton impeachment trial

  80. jason says:

    After this, let’s cut by 3/4rds all foreign aid.”

    I think foreign aid is a good investment in most cases.

    Isolationism doesn’t work. Foreign aid in most cases is cheaper than the alternative.

    So are the “endless wars”. They are still cheaper than the alternative.

  81. jason says:

    But Tina is right about one thing.

    If Trump ever did cut foreign aid by 3/4, it would tell me he is no longer concerned about the security of the US and he wouldn’t get my vote.

  82. Tina says:

    Enema could be a no too. She seems to be more conservative than fraud Flakey on some issues.

    Schweitkart appears down on Senator McSally. She seems to be a waste.

  83. Tina says:

    Way to go for the commie pope to talk about treating women’s bodies, the day after he slapped a woman.

  84. Robbie says:

    I haven’t posted in along while and I don’t expect that to change for the time being either, but I was playing around with 270towin.com and here’s how I see things 10 months to go.

    Trump – 180
    Democrat – 229
    Toss-up – 142

    The toss-ups are NH, PA, NC, FL, OH, MI, WI, IA, and AZ. You can quibble with the toss-ups, but my view on them has as much to do with how close each has been in the last few elections as it does with how close I think they may or may not be in 2020.

    My best guess is Biden will be the nominee. His durability throughout 2019 reminds me of Trump in 2015. He’s had plenty of stumbles and taken a lot of punches, but he’s still firmly ahead nationally.

    If Biden’s the nominee, I think he’ll be the favorite and would likely win the popular vote by 4 million or so (Clinton won by 3 million) and win the electoral college by a margin somewhat smaller than the margin Obama beat Romney.

    If I had to point to a state or two that will be pivotal, I’d say it would be OH and FL. If Trump wins both, he’ll be on the doorstep of another narrow electoral college win. If he loses one or both, well….

  85. jason says:

    I give the commie pope a pass. In the video, the woman grabs his hand and pulls him towards her. I think she deserved a slap on the hand.

  86. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag drives by to declare his support for socialism?

    Zzzzzzzzz…

    GFY.

  87. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    January 1, 2020 at 6:29 pm
    Amoral Scumbag drives by to declare his support for socialism?
    Zzzzzzzzz…
    GFY.

    – Yep. That’s exactly what I did. By stating where I think the race is right now 10 months before the election, I was definitely supporting socialism. Of course by supporting Trump, you’re supporting populism and tariffs. Yay?

  88. jason says:

    I haven’t posted in along while and I don’t expect that to change for the time being either,”

    We understand. The polling has been pretty good for Trump, and you always disappear when that is the case.

    Hope springs eternal. Maybe something bad will happen to the country, and that would be bad for Trump.

  89. jason says:

    I guess Amoral Scumbag has given up on all the fake scandals he peddled here for years, if he thinks Trump will still be President in Nov 2020.

    I guess he can always hope for a recession or some other kind of bad news.

  90. jason says:

    If he loses one or both, well…”

    To think Amoral Scumbag came all the way from Bogo Pogo to share this bit of earth shattering news….

    Trump might not win if he loses OH and FL.

    Deep thinking there.

  91. Tina says:

    Maybe she did deserve a slap, but the body guards did nothing.

    The commie pope has apologized.

  92. jason says:

    Trump will be favored to win OH and IA, he won them decisively in 2016 and if they are indeed toss-ups he in trouble. He will also be favored, more narrowly, to win FL, AZ and NC too.

    The others are indeed toss-ups. Trump will need at least one of them to win.

    What is obvious here is that Amoral Scumbag is already trying to hedge his bets, after years of saying Trump had no chance.

  93. Tina says:

    Yup, all because the cia was gun running into Syria from Benghazi. Don’t forget arresting a you tuber to cover up.

    More
    That time terrorists attacked our embassy in Libya and the Obama-BIDEN administration refused to send help and launched a cover up and four Americans died and the media joined the cover up.

    Can you imagine how many Americans would’ve been left to die in Iraq w/Prez HILLARY.

  94. Tina says:

    I dont think ohio and Iowa are toss ups.

    Btw, how is muh Russia doing?

    How is porn lawyah?

  95. jason says:

    Trump won Ohio by half a million votes.

    There is very little to indicate he is in trouble there.

    Biden is sacrificing his strongest hand, which is his (fake) appeal to blue collar voters.

    By telling miners to “learn coding”, he is basically following Dukakis’ idiotic advice to corn farmers in IA to “grow Belgian endive”.

    Biden has been pushed so much to the far left that he will have a lot of trouble tacking back to the center during the GE campaign.

    I have always said I thought he would be tough to beat, but he is doing everything he can to change my mind.

  96. jason says:

    The commie pope has apologized.”

    Because he thinks that is the popular thing to do.

    He thinks it will make him more popular with people who actually hate the Catholic church.

  97. Tina says:

    The talking to walls and his poor campaigning are also not helping his campaign. Poor crowd sizes and low money are factors.

  98. Tina says:

    Crack Biden should just have done the right thing and paid up to support his child from the stripper.

  99. Tina says:

    Looks like the mourners fled from the embassy and retreated.

    Too much tear gas for the Iranians.

  100. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Btw, how is muh Russia doing?”

    I talked to muh Russia last night. He appears to be doing very well.

  101. Tina says:

    But he was not impeached for holding up $.

    Donald J. Trump
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    Obama sent weapons through Benghazi to ISIS yet he is holding up shipments to Israel. What is he thinking?
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  102. Tina says:

    #103- You also drank muh brewski.

  103. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    55. “Oh…to be young and stoopid again and drink alcohol, eat meat, and live in CA.”

    Sadly, I meet all those qualifications except one.

  104. Phil says:

    Ohio and Iowa are NOT toss ups. Of that I am sure.

  105. jason says:

    It’s ok Phil. Amoral Scumbag is now talking about a “narrow EC victory for Trump”.

    Hilarious.

  106. jason says:

    “On New Year’s Day in 1863, the Republican Party’s Emancipation Proclamation came into effect. While Republicans rejoiced, Democrat politicians and newspapers denounced President Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) for freeing slaves.

    Demonstrating their depravity, New York’s Gov. Horatio Seymour, who would be the 1868 Democrat presidential nominee, denounced the Emancipation Proclamation as “a proposal for the butchery of women and children.”

    The Louisville Daily Democrat called it “an outrage of all constitutional law, all human justice, all Christian feeling.”

  107. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag is up to his old tricks. He will ardently push for a socialist President, but if Trump wins he can say “I called the election in January”.

    You have to (almost) admire the chutzpah and hypocrisy.

  108. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag tells a lot of lies, but the one where he says I support tariffs has got to win top billing

  109. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    108. It is amazing how much Trump’s political fortune has changed over the last year. Now almost everyone is in agreement that the presidential race will be very close in 2020.

  110. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    January 1, 2020 at 6:32 pm
    I haven’t posted in along while and I don’t expect that to change for the time being either,”
    We understand. The polling has been pretty good for Trump, and you always disappear when that is the case.

    – Trump polls around 43% in the averages and has for much of the last two years. That’s a losing number since presidential approval is the best predictor of the vote share an incumbent president will receive.

  111. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    January 1, 2020 at 6:42 pm
    What is obvious here is that Amoral Scumbag is already trying to hedge his bets, after years of saying Trump had no chance.

    – Nope. Not hedging anything. I think Trump will lose and I have thought that for a long time. I don’t think it will be a blow out and that’s why I suggested the likely margin will be a bit smaller than the margin by which Obama beat Romney.

  112. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    January 1, 2020 at 6:54 pm
    “Btw, how is muh Russia doing?”
    I talked to muh Russia last night. He appears to be doing very well.

    – Have you flipped back to supporting Trump after saying this past Fall he was not mentally fit to be president anymore?

  113. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    January 1, 2020 at 6:59 pm
    Ohio and Iowa are NOT toss ups. Of that I am sure.

    – I included states like OH and IA as tossups (same for FL, PA, MI) because both states have gone back and forth over the last few presidential elections. If you pushed me to say what I expect to happen right now, I’d expect Trump to win both. That said in 2012, FL was viewed all year as a state Romney was very likely to win and we all expected that. Unfortunately, he somewhat surprisingly lost the state.

  114. Phil says:

    It would be a losing number in an election decided by a national popular vote.

    As the 2016 election shows, the electoral vote is another matter and that is all that matters.

    California and New York gave Clinton a six million vote cushion. That’s a lot of wasted votes and, again, the 2016 election shows how wasted those votes can be.

    A 43 or 44 percent approval for a Republican President isn’t what it once was. Add in Massachusetts, Illinois, and Maryland and that’s another 2.7 million votes added to the cushion. I’m saying the popularity number for the President is skewed in relation to the electoral college……and that’s the problem the Democratic nominee will have.

  115. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    January 1, 2020 at 7:03 pm
    It’s ok Phil. Amoral Scumbag is now talking about a “narrow EC victory for Trump”.
    Hilarious.

    – There’s always been a theoretical path for a narrow Trump electoral college victory. I don’t think it’s going to happen, though. I don’t think he’s going to win PA or MI again and I think he stand a 50-50 chance of losing AZ.

  116. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    January 1, 2020 at 7:07 pm
    Amoral Scumbag is up to his old tricks. He will ardently push for a socialist President, but if Trump wins he can say “I called the election in January”.
    You have to (almost) admire the chutzpah and hypocrisy.

    – I’m not pushing for Biden to win because I’m not about to vote for him. And I’m not making the case Trump will win either because I believe he’s going to lose. The same indicators that suggested Republicans were likely to lose the House badly in 2018 are suggesting the same for Trump today and they have been consistent for the last year or more (JA, right/wrong track, generic ballot).

    If Trump wins, I think it would be an even bigger upset than 2016, but I don’t think it will happen.

  117. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    January 1, 2020 at 7:11 pm
    108. It is amazing how much Trump’s political fortune has changed over the last year. Now almost everyone is in agreement that the presidential race will be very close in 2020.

    – His political fortune hasn’t changed on iota in the last year. The electoral map looked the same on January 1, 2019 as it does today. A year ago he polled around 43% in the job approval averages and he’s still around 43%. He was never going to lose 40 states anymore than he was going to win 40 states.

  118. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    January 1, 2020 at 7:23 pm
    It would be a losing number in an election decided by a national popular vote.
    As the 2016 election shows, the electoral vote is another matter and that is all that matters.

    – At some point, a 5 million national vote deficit stops being simply from states like CA or NY and becomes too much to overcome. The additional national votes Trump is likely to lose by nationally will most likely come from the suburbs that stuck with him in 2016 but abandoned the party in 2018 and appear ready to do so again based on current polling.

  119. Phil says:

    California and New York have never together been so one sided. Not even close. Normally 44% popularity would be death for a Republican incumbent. Not any longer. The California and New York political realities have Completely changed that calculation.

    Now, interestingly, 44% popularity for a Democratic nominee WOULD be death – also because of the state of electoral politics in NY and California.

  120. Phil says:

    It’s 6 million votes and it happened in 2016.

    I love Trump’s chances against any candidate outside of Biden. He’d win comfortably over Warren, Sanders, or Mayor Pete. Biden could go either way.

    As far as suburbanites go they are the primary holders of 401Ks and they are quite happy with their returns. Don’t underestimate that when you predict how the suburbs will vote in 2020.

  121. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    January 1, 2020 at 7:35 pm
    California and New York have never together been so one sided. Not even close. Normally 44% popularity would be death for a Republican incumbent. Not any longer. The California and New York political realities have Completely changed that calculation.

    – We’ll see how things go, but this line of thinking reminds me of the delbov curve, the Bradley effect, and poll unskewing.

    The difference in totals across the country will be much, much more about Independents and the suburbs turning away from Trump than mega distortions by CA and NY.

  122. Tina says:

    Here is a picture of mourners in the White House, obumbler, and the same mourners on the street of Baghdad. a fitting way to start and end the last decade.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1212410253612142592/photo/1

  123. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    January 1, 2020 at 7:42 pm
    It’s 6 million votes and it happened in 2016.

    – I was talking a bout a potential 5 million national vote win by Biden over Trump, not how much CA and NY contributed.

  124. Phil says:

    Ok….and that’s a 2.9 million vote increase over Hillary’s total margin. That would do it probably. I just don’t think Biden pushes it up to there.

  125. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    121. If you exclude the California vote, Trump received about 1,400,000 more votes nationally than Clinton in popular vote total from the other 49 states.

    National Total
    Clinton 65,853,514
    Trump 62,984,828
    Clinton received 2,868,686 more votes than Trump

    California Total
    Clinton 8,753,788
    Trump 4,483,810
    Clinton over Trump 4,269,978

  126. Tina says:

    In addition to blue state Va moving away from some drats 4 President, we need to watch Colorado and Nevada.

    Rs are plus 19k in the registration rolls per Schweikart.

  127. Tina says:

    (*in Nv, plus 19000).

  128. Phil says:

    Correction. I should have said about a 2.8 million vote difference in 2016 – not 2.1.

  129. Tina says:

    He was below 46 in early 2019 over muh shutdown. Strengthened mid way, despite muh recession and muh China, and ended well thanks to Piglosi and the wackos. Helped by the collapse of the Russian hoax and F. Ulehead debacle.

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  130. Phil says:

    Your MSM in action:

    Trump was playing golf during and in the aftermath of the attack on our embassy.

    The occupiers were “mourners”

    Keep digging MSM and watch as your credibility continues to sink. Liars and it gets more apparent by the day – if that’s even possible.

  131. Tina says:

    Guiliani a full interview last night. He drops a Moab.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHo4Joo1xdk

  132. Trump often has had a higher job approval rating than Obama had prior to his re-election, From Newsweek:

    BY ALEXANDRA HUTZLER ON 9/27/19 AT 9:05 AM EDT
    Despite a string of White House controversies, a recent poll shows President Donald Trump’s job approval rating is currently higher than former President Barack Obama’s was at the same point in his administration.

    According to Gallup, Trump’s job approval rating is at 43 percent—three points higher than Obama’s 40 percent at the same time in his presidency. The survey shows Trump only one point behind Bill Clinton and four points behind Ronald Reagan at this point in their first term.”

    A lot of voters who disapprove of Trump’s job performance, will vote for him as the lesser of two evils — particularly if the Democratic candidate is a far leftist.

  133. jason says:

    hat said in 2012, FL was viewed all year as a state Romney was very likely to win and we all expected that.

    Who is “we” Amoral Scumbag?

    You expected your candidate Obama to win.

    GFY.

  134. lisab says:

    If Trump wins both, he’ll be on the doorstep of another narrow electoral college win.
    ————–

    didn’t trump win 300+ electoral votes?

  135. jason says:

    And of course, Trump’s approval rating at RCP is actually 44.6%.

    This is only 0.4% less than the number Amoral Scumbag always claimed Trump needed for re-election, but of course the goalposts will change now that Trump got there.

    As usual, he will make up a new standard, as many as necessary because he is dishonest scum.

  136. jason says:

    And btw, IF the nominee is Sanders, I predict Trump will win around 40 states. If its Warren, he will win easily.

    If it’s Biden, and Biden does not self destruct during the campaign, I predict a close race.

    Mayor Butt is an unknown, harder to predict. He could surprise, or he could fizzle. I reserve judgment on him.

  137. jason says:

    Tulsi Gabbard: Impeachment has ‘greatly increased the likelihood’ of Trump reelection and GOP retaking House”

    So Tulsi is a lot smarter than Amoral Scumbag.

    But that is a low bar…

  138. Wobbles says:

    If Trump wins both, he’ll be on the doorstep of another narrow electoral college win.
    ————–

    didn’t trump win 300+ electoral votes?”

    That is very narrow, like my own mind.

    Of course, if Hillary had won by that much, I would have called it a landslide.

  139. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    January 1, 2020 at 8:13 pm
    hat said in 2012, FL was viewed all year as a state Romney was very likely to win and we all expected that.
    Who is “we” Amoral Scumbag?
    You expected your candidate Obama to win.
    GFY.

    – I did think Obama would win and he won by a bit more than I expected, but I also thought, along with most on this board and most political pundits, that Romney would win FL. Surprisingly, he didn’t.

    It brings me great joy, though, to see how much one post by me triggered you.

  140. PresidentPaul! says:

    Romney was a fraud that’s why he lost.

  141. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    January 1, 2020 at 8:20 pm
    And btw, IF the nominee is Sanders, I predict Trump will win around 40 states. If its Warren, he will win easily.

    – If this board existed in January 1992, Jason fraud would predict GHWB would win 40 states if Democrats nominate the philandering draft dodger Clinton.

  142. lisab says:

    If Trump wins both, he’ll be on the doorstep of another narrow electoral college win.
    —————————————-

    doesn’t this mean robbie thinks trump is in a MUCH MUCH stronger position than he was in 2016 at this time?

  143. Robbie says:

    Wobbles says:
    January 1, 2020 at 8:24 pm
    If Trump wins both, he’ll be on the doorstep of another narrow electoral college win.
    ————–
    didn’t trump win 300+ electoral votes?”
    That is very narrow, like my own mind.
    Of course, if Hillary had won by that much, I would have called it a landslide.

    – Considering Trump lost the popular vote by roughly 3 million and won the three states that put him over the top in the electoral college by a combined 70,000 votes, I’d say that’s a pretty narrow win.

  144. jason says:

    nationally will most likely come from the suburbs that stuck with him in 2016 but abandoned the party in 2018 and appear ready to do so again based on current polling.”

    LOL, what “current polling”?

    If anything, “current polling” shows quite a few of the seats Dems won in 2018 at risk.

    I am not predicting the GOP retakes the House, but I am predicting the Dems will lose seats.

    Based on “current polling”.

  145. PresidentPaul! says:

    If Trump wins, he will take the senate with him and most likely the house too.

    If it’s narrow loss there is a chance GOP could keep the senate.

  146. jason says:

    I’d say that’s a pretty narrow win.”

    Hello?

    Didn’t you say “If Trump wins both, he’ll be on the doorstep of another narrow electoral college win.”

    What was it, 306 to 232 or something like that.

    That is only a narrow EC win if you are amoral scum.

  147. Robbie says:

    PresidentPaul! says:
    January 1, 2020 at 8:45 pm
    Romney was a fraud that’s why he lost.

    – He was a good man who was a mediocre candidate, at best, going up against the nation’s first black president. He needed to run a near perfect campaign, but he didn’t. He was never able to satisfactorily explain his past more moderate positions, he was dinged up by the moron brigade in the primary, he went dark in June, had a blah convention, and picked a running mate who didn’t excite enough voters. I also think Superstorm Sandy really dealt him a tough blow. To be honest and with the benefit of hindsight, he might have done everything right and still lost. Obama was a tough, tough opponent.

  148. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    HORROR: Dozens of zoo monkeys burn alive…
    ##############################################

    In Germany…bad start of the year for the monkeys

  149. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag lies so much he cannot remember what lie he said last.

    Trump won the EC decisively, nothing narrow about it.

    And of course, Amoral Scumbag loves the MSNBC talking point about “popular vote win” as if that was relevant.

    If he wasn’t a lying POS, he would admit that a popular vote election would be completely different, and that both campaigns had strategies to get to 270, not win the popular vote.

  150. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    January 1, 2020 at 8:54 pm
    I’d say that’s a pretty narrow win.”
    Hello?
    Didn’t you say “If Trump wins both, he’ll be on the doorstep of another narrow electoral college win.”
    What was it, 306 to 232 or something like that.
    That is only a narrow EC win if you are amoral scum.

    – As much as you’d like to suggest otherwise, when a candidate loses the popular vote and wins the electoral college, it’s going to be viewed as a narrow win.

    I don’t think Trump’s going to win, but, if he does, it will be the electoral college only and it’s likely the states that put him over the top will be by narrow margins.

    Regardless of how 2020 plays out, we’ll get to do this all over again in 2024 because I think there’s a good chance Don Jr. runs with the backing of both his father and the primetime hosts on FoxNews and I’m going to enjoy watching this forum fall in line with him.

  151. jason says:

    After lying for years about Romney’s record, family, honor, business, etc. and celebrating his loss to Obama, Amoral Scumbag now pretends to like him because he wrote an despicable Op-ed against Trump.

    The hypocrisy is astounding.

  152. PresidentPaul! says:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7843659/Ghislaine-Maxwell-reportedly-foreign-spy-hiding-Israel.html

    An explosive new report has asserted that deceased sex criminal Jeffery Epstein and his alleged ‘madame’ Ghislaine Maxwell were foreign intelligence ‘assets’, and that she is currently hiding in a safehouse in Israel.

  153. jason says:

    – As much as you’d like to suggest otherwise, when a candidate loses the popular vote and wins the electoral college, it’s going to be viewed as a narrow win.”

    Goalposts moving, lying POS?

    That is not what you said.

    You said “narrow electoral college win”.

  154. jason says:

    I will let the Nazi lover and the socialist lover duke it out.

    Loser vs. loser.

  155. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    January 1, 2020 at 8:58 pm
    Amoral Scumbag lies so much he cannot remember what lie he said last.
    Trump won the EC decisively, nothing narrow about it.
    And of course, Amoral Scumbag loves the MSNBC talking point about “popular vote win” as if that was relevant.
    If he wasn’t a lying POS, he would admit that a popular vote election would be completely different, and that both campaigns had strategies to get to 270, not win the popular vote.

    – When I speak of his narrow win, I’m talking about the narrow vote margins in the states he won that put him over the top.

  156. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    January 1, 2020 at 9:05 pm
    I will let the Nazi lover and the socialist lover duke it out.
    Loser vs. loser.

    – And I’ll let you the populist nationalist Trump supporter and Tinfoil Tina duke it out over foreign aid.

  157. PresidentPaul! says:

    http://is2.4chan.org/pol/1577912501612.jpg

    It’s possible millennials, genXers, genYers, etc are staying with Bernie because of this unlike the boomers who became conservative.

  158. PresidentPaul! says:

    If it holds, we become Japan.

  159. Tina says:

    I am going to fall in line with Sanders,

    -jebot

  160. dblaikie says:

    Well I see Wormtongue is back. What a treat for those who like drivel and inane posts.

  161. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #163- db,jason,Tina & Others
    In addition, Wormtongue has become a BORE with nothing fresh to say!

  162. jason says:

    When I speak of his narrow win, I’m talking about the narrow vote margins in the states he won that put him over the top.”

    Goalposts still moving.

    What Amoral Scumbag actually wrote:

    “narrow electoral college win”.

  163. jason says:

    “He was never able to satisfactorily explain his past more moderate positions”

    Amoral Scumbag attacked Romney’s character, his wife, his business, his wealth, his father, his wife’s car, his elevator, his wife’s horse, his dog, you name it.

    But it is the first time Amoral Scumbag attacks Romney for being a “moderate”.

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  164. Tina says:

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    AND CREEPY MR. “COMPLETELY SELF-UNAWARE” TAKES IT TO A NEW LEVEL – Creepy Joe Biden to 11-Year-Old Girl: “How Old are You Honey? Talk to Me before You Leave” (VIDEO)

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/creepy-joe-biden-to-11-year-old-girl-how-old-are-you-honey-talk-to-me-before-you-leave-video/

  165. jason says:

    Did he offer her some candy?

  166. jason says:

    Chris Hayes, of all people, finally gets to the bottom of it:

    “I mean, the argument goes like this of House Republicans and Trump and his allies: Basically, the Democrats wanted to impeach Donald Trump from day one. They cast about looking for a set of facts that they could plausibly use to do it, and all of it was pretextual and reverse-engineered to get to this point, and Exhibit One: Congressman Al Green, who [has] been calling for the man’s impeachment for two years now,” Hayes said. “What’s your response to that charge?”

    “Well, the genesis of impeachment, to be very candid with you, was when the President was running for office.”

    The truth will set you free.

  167. jason says:

    Translation: to very candid with you, House Republicans and Trump and his allies, are right.

  168. jason says:

    Have Walt and Cash Cow taken up coding yet?

  169. jason says:

    “I think there’s a good chance Don Jr. runs with the backing of both his father and the primetime hosts on FoxNews and I’m going to enjoy watching this forum fall in line with him”

    If he wins the nomination and runs against a socialist, I will vote for him.

    Does that count as “falling in line with him”?

  170. jason says:

    By coming here to promote his socialist candidates against Trump in 2020 it seems Amoral Scumbag is acknowledging that his dream of a coup against Trump, be it by Mueller or a fake psychologist or Avenatti or kangaroo court impeachment or a brokered convention will not happen.

    I hope he has the suicide hotline number handy.

  171. Pgil says:

    Well, the numbers are in and Bernie continues to rake in the money. I think he got 34 mil this last quarter. That’s a lot of people throwing in money to bet on socialism.

  172. DW says:

    Wes is right about VA. It is gone. The growth of liberal/socialist/communist occupants in and around DC is overwhelming. They hate Trump. They for the most part do not need the economic good times we are in because they are either wealthy democrats or on the federal payroll.

    On election night, they will do pretty much the same thing as 2016. They will point out surprise that Trump leads in the early returns in VA. Then the clueless host will ask the ‘expert’ what this means, and the ‘expert’ will remind the host that Northern Virginia comes in strong late, after all the rural votes are counted. Trump might do slightly better than 2016, depending on who the Dems nominate. But right now I would classify VA as “Likely Dem”

  173. NYCmike says:

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/02/exclusive-the-inspector-general-missed-yet-another-lie-from-the-fbi/?utm_source=The+Federalist+List&utm_campaign=4e1da25490-RSS_The_Federalist_Daily_Updates_w_Transom&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cfcb868ceb-4e1da25490-81168121

    -Good ol’ Robbie, back to drop a deuce!

    I can’t guarantee a Trump re-election, as there are too many voters, like Robbie and “CG”, who are swayed by silly emotional issues like “Trump is mean!”.

    BUT, I can guarantee that stories like this will be ignored by those same voters, especially “conservative Republicans” such as Robbie and “CG”.

  174. NYCmike says:

    “For a third year, Trump’s administration has broken the record for issuing the fewest regulations and rules, a radical departure from the eight years of former President Barack Obama.”

    -“CG” and Robbie would rather have an Obama-type President in office.

    And YES, that is a FACT, since the election next year will be between President Trump and an Obama-type candidate from the Democratic/Socialist Party.

  175. jason says:

    I doubt Bernie would beat Trump even in VA.

    Might make an interesting bet if Bernie wins the nomination.

  176. NYCmike says:

    “I doubt Bernie would beat Trump even in VA.”

    -Suburban moms in NoVa will do all they can to make it happen!

  177. jason says:

    Of course, there IS Corey’s candidate, Joe Walsh.

    I haven’t heard anything about him since Corey breathlessly declared that even someone he previously abhorred as a racist bigot was better than Trump.

  178. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag always pretended there was an “alternative” to Trump, even though he knew there wasn’t.

    Supposedly that gave him an out for supporting a socialist.

    Now at least he admits Mueller, Schiff, Romney, Nikki Haley, Avenatti, Cohen, Stormy, bogus psychological evaluations, his MSM heroes and every other fake scandal and coup attempt he has regurgitated here for years were all doomed to failure.

  179. Tina says:

    Wtf is Pedo doing?

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    https://twitter.com/alx/status/1211699768092766210

  180. Tina says:

    Yikes, clean up in aisle 5

    17h
    Biden proclaims the ‘European’ identity of America: “Our culture is not imported from some African nation.”

  181. jason says:

    Wow, is Biden reading Michael Corleone’s posts?

  182. Tina says:

    Ok very depressing here.

    First, the skateboarder quits.

    Then Eric Holder 2.0.

    And now Fidel Castro

  183. jason says:

    Biden refuses to acknowledge the contributions of Incan peoples to our identity?

    Shameful.

  184. jason says:

    I am not quitting my quest for the Dem nomination.

    Especially now that Karl Rove has predicted a brokered convention.

    This thing is up for grabs.

  185. NYCmike says:

    https://spectator.us/trump-win-again-2020-victor-davis-hanson/

    “I take it by that he meant he and his friends are frequently embarrassed by Trump’s crudity — but not nearly so much as they are enraged by the sanctimoniousness of an Adam Schiff or the smug ‘bombshell’ monotony of media anchors.”

    -Somehow, “CG” and Robbie think Trump is worse than the alternative!

  186. NYCmike says:

    Almost forgot…..thanks to the remaining A-Holes, who never forget the important things in life, besides a clean colon…..

    GFY*

    *First GFY of the decade……for me!

  187. NYCmike says:

    And hopefully the last…..I am not vulgar like that.

  188. PresidentPaul! says:

    One thing encouraging about this economy is how little debt consumers have which surprised me. Corporate and Sovereign debt is high, but consumers, surprisingly have almost none.

    I was a bit amazed when I looked at it. Consumer debt is much lower than it was 1994 when the market was prepped for growth with much room for consumers to leverage up and it’s lower than 1984 when the same was true. It’s historically low actually.

  189. jason says:

    It bothers considerably that Trump does not believe in free trade and free markets, and that he believes in long debunked protectionist panaceas like trade wars and tariffs. It bothers me that a lot of his foreign policy views are isolationist, simplistic, naive and fail to take into account how important geopolitical factors are to our economy and our security. It bothers me that he enamored with trillion dollar infrastructure boondoggles and that he has absolutely no interest in fiscal conservatism. It bothers me that he thinks a physical wall along the Mexican border is a long term solution for the immigration issue. It bothers me that he has zero vision for the long term viability and success of the Republican Party, mostly because he never identified with a lot of its (formerly) core principles.

    However, the Never Trumpers have yet to offer a cogent argument on why it would not be in the interest of conservatives in cementing a conservative SCOTUS (which will surely happen if Trump is re-elected) for decades to come, not to mention the circuit courts and other judicial positions. They have yet to offer a cogent argument on why it would be better to have a President who will scuttle our newly found energy independence, disrupt a healthy economy by diverting trillions down the climate change rathole, and reverse the gains made in the deregulation of the economy, and lower taxes for individuals and businesses. Or a cogent argument on why it is better to have a President hostile to the 2nd Amendment and other liberties. Or a cogent argument on why we want a President basically advocating for open borders. The list goes on.

    Finally we come to the “moral argument”. That somehow it is worth having socialism as a matter of principle, Trump is just too immoral to be President. Hello? Are the Clintons more moral than Trump, although Corey once asserted they were. Adam Schiff? Nancy Pelosi? Joe Biden? Elizabeth Warren? Chuck Schumer? Corey Booker? Do the Never Trumpers really want to make the case that electing these kind of people is a moral imperative, so superior morally to Trump that socialism and the nanny state are worth the sacrifice?

  190. NYCmike says:

    Concerned about Jr?

    About what?

    I must have missed that.

  191. CG says:

    Yes, all is superior to Trump and what is worth opposing can all be opposed on principle.

    It’s about time people take their head out of the sand and accept that is how others think….. especially jason who went far further than me last time in expressing this same concept.

  192. CG says:

    I have never believed Joe Walsh is a “racist bigot.” I have known him for several years and was active in his Congressional campaign against liberal Democrats. Long before he was elected to office, he had a long history of trying to help people in inner-city communities, etc. I still disagree with many of his policy positions, but he is very consistent on the ones he has and is willing to defend them.

    To be sure, he had many faults once he found the spotlight and I was greatly turned off by his rhetoric. This was related to him deliberately saying provocative things (often taken out of context by the Left) in order to appeal to the Trumpian base that was becoming more powerful on the right. As he said, he helped create Trump.

    He is forthcoming in admitting that and expressing regret. I think people are worthy of forgiveness when they seek it and are honest about their transgressions.

    Joe Walsh will not be President but in 2020, he is the only conservative seeking the office of President.

  193. NYCmike says:

    “Joe Walsh will not be President but in 2020, he is the only conservative seeking the office of President.”

    -Once he loses the primary, will he support the nominee from his party, or the nominee from the Democratic one?

  194. CG says:

    Hopefully neither.

  195. NYCmike says:

    “Joe Walsh will not be President but in 2020, he is the only conservative seeking the office of President.”

    -Got it. He will pick up his ball and go home.

  196. NYCmike says:

    Not sure how #204 happened……

    “Hopefully neither.”

    -Got it. He will pick up his ball and go home.

  197. NYCmike says:

    “To be sure, he had many faults once he found the spotlight and I was greatly turned off by his rhetoric. This was related to him deliberately saying provocative things (often taken out of context by the Left) in order to appeal to the Trumpian base that was becoming more powerful on the right. As he said, he helped create Trump.”

    -LOL!

    Trump is to blame for Joe Walsh’s bad acts!

    Is there anything Trump can’t do!?!?

  198. CG says:

    Well, too many others are willing to lease their balls out to others so good for him.

  199. Tina says:

    Lol

    “Trump is to blame for (kkk) Joe Walsh’s bad acts!”

  200. CG says:

    You comprehend incorrectly on this NYC. What Walsh is saying is that he feels blame for Trump’s bad acts.

  201. CG says:

    For the record, he has said he might be open to voting for the Democrat. I guess it depends who it is.

    Unless it is Bloomberg, whom I would probably vote for begrudgingly against Trump, I feel differently.

  202. Tina says:

    Hawley is bad arse.

    Puts Goober et al. To shame.

    I am sure Goober will go on pawn hannitys program and waste air time.

  203. NYCmike says:

    “Well, too many others are willing to lease their balls out to others so good for him.”

    -For 4 more years, Trump (except for his ridiculous spending habit) makes much more than any Democrat running in 2020.

    Hopefully, he can get re-elected, and hopefully he can be restrained on the spending side, while still adding good judges and cutting over-burdensome regulations put in place by Obama and the administrative state, and then we can pick another good candidate in 2024.

  204. NYCmike says:

    “-For 4 more years, Trump (except for his ridiculous spending habit) makes much more **sense** than any Democrat running in 2020.”

  205. CG says:

    Is “Hope” a strategy?

    Even if all those “good” things happen, what is the other side? What else might happen? What are the costs?

    In any event you have chosen to surrender your balls to him out of “hope.”

  206. Tina says:

    All of this due to Mute 43 phuqiimg up.

    Shem Horne Retweeted

    Secretary Pompeo
    ?
    Verified account

    @SecPompeo
    18m18 minutes ago
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    Spoke with Iraqi Speaker al-Halbousi and thanked him for condemning @USEmbBaghdad attacks by Iran and its proxies. We agreed Iraq must uphold its responsibility to keep U.S. personnel safe and prevent further attacks. Building a sovereign & strong Iraq remains a shared priority.

  207. NYCmike says:

    “Unless it is Bloomberg….”

    -Seeing as how Bloomie spent about $150 million in the last month for 1% in the polls, this makes a lot of sense that you would consider supporting him.

    How many delegates will that get him in the Dem primary? More than that guy in the Republican primary??

  208. Tina says:

    China Biden just having an awful day.

    Rising serpent
    ?

    @rising_serpent
    15m15 minutes ago
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    Joe Biden calls Julian Castro “Cisneros” confusing him with Henry Cisneros, Bill Clinton’s HUD Secretary 25 years ago.
    Trump War Room — Text FIGHT to 88022

  209. CG says:

    For Bloomberg, it would obviously depend on Biden and some others imploding. I don’t really see it happening, but I think after 2016, we should all learn to never say never as to possibilities.

    Yes, I think even if he falls far short of the nomination, he will win a lot more delegates than Chris Christie did.

  210. NYCmike says:

    “Is “Hope” a strategy?”

    -When confronted with the guarantee of any Democrat being like Obama, then YES, HOPE is a strategy.

    It worked wonders in 2016!

  211. Tina says:

    Dumberg too worried about regulating Coca Cola and frito Lays missed the Nevada filing deadline.

    I would like hi. To be the Drat nominee.

    He would get his arse kicked.

  212. jason says:

    This was related to him deliberately saying provocative things (often taken out of context by the Left)”

    LOL

    This is exactly what happens to Trump… but that is ok with Corey because the ends justify the means.

  213. NYCmike says:

    LOL!

    This guy is still bringing up Christie!!

    You are going to make me laugh like Eddie Murphy laughed in The Nutty Professor!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdDxVZkytxI

  214. jason says:

    Yes, I think even if he falls far short of the nomination, he will win a lot more delegates than Chris Christie did.”

    He will certainly get a lot more delegates than Jeb Bush did.

  215. CG says:

    When Trump has been taken out of context, I have gone out of my way to defend him (such as the incident with MS-13 and the reference to “animals.”) I am very consistent in being willing to give the benefit of the doubt when facts are in evidence.

    But at least 95% of the time, Trump deserves the blame for the things he says and does.

  216. CG says:

    Jeb Bush got more delegates than Christie too, even thought the cycle began with Christie way ahead of Bush in the polls.

    At least 2016 had a somewhat fair process where candidates were able to succeed or fail on their own without the party cancelling primaries left and right and taking away people even having a choice.

  217. jason says:

    “As he said, he helped create Trump.”

    He didn’t help create Trump.

    His apologizing for “creating Trump” is like me apologizing for raising sea levels because I peed into the ocean.

  218. CG says:

    I don’t want to hear about what you and TGCA were doing together at the ocean. You two really need a private chat room.

  219. jason says:

    Bloomberg comes up with racist proposal for gun control.

    Ban guns from 18-25 black males because that is the age group/race where most murders occur.

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

    Maybe Bloomberg will propose cutting down all forests to prevent forest fires.

  220. CG says:

    Just curious, what do you folks in the bunu bunch/Trump Train think about marijuana legalization? It just became legal for recreational purposes in IL, and as a conservative I have a lot of concerns about it and potential ramifications and have been arguing about this online with leftists.

    Are you folks for it too?

  221. CG says:

    If Bloomberg actually said it (we know better than to take jason at his word), that’s pretty un-American.

    Almost as un-American as a Muslim ban.

  222. jason says:

    I guess Trump raised his kids to a much higher moral standard than Joe Biden did…but I want to thank Amoral Scumbag over his “concern” about Don Jr.

    “A lot of attention has been focused on the saga of Hunter Biden. Other than occasionally surfacing the public consciousness for some brazen act of disregard for public mores (getting commissioned in the Navy Reserve by using your father’s influence, getting booted from the Navy for cocaine use, spending the family money on hookers and blow, dumping your family, boffing your dead brother’s widow, dumping your dead brother’s widow, impregnating a stripper, having strippers use dildos on you, marrying a woman after only knowing her for a week), Hunter has led a life out of the public view.”

  223. CG says:

    I looked the story up.

    I disagree with Bloomberg’s overall gun control position.

    There is nothing to suggest he proposed a law related to a specific ban for 18-25 year old black males.

  224. jason says:

    Almost as un-American as a Muslim ban.”

    Except there was no Muslim ban.

    But maybe you can come up with something else.

  225. CG says:

    Many have said Don Jr. did a rehab stint once too. I don’t know for sure. He seems coked up to me in interviews, but I’m not an expert.

    If Joe Biden is President, we will likely never see or hear from Hunter at least and that will be for the best.

  226. jason says:

    I just quoted the article I read. I think the only way you keep guns out of a certain age group and race is to somehow ban them from owning guns.

    https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2020/01/02/michael-bloomberg-suggests-disarming-minorities-to-keep-them-alive/

  227. CG says:

    There was an attempted Muslim ban, but obviously, he couldn’t do it because it was illegal. He did openly call for one though as a candidate. At the time, you called him a “fascist”, a “racist” and a “Klansman.” But now, you share a bed with bunu.

    Bloomberg did not suggest specific legislation that would effect 18-25 year old black males and nobody else.

  228. jason says:

    Many have said Don Jr. did a rehab stint once too. I don’t know for sure. He seems coked up to me in interviews, but I’m not an expert.”

    Wow. That is great equivalency there.

    “Many said”…. “Seemed coked up”… “I am not an expert”

    Corey is a clown.

  229. CG says:

    Irresponsible journalism by a blog, if blogs are even held to that standard.

    Bloomberg, a well-known nanny statist, is running for President, not Mayor. He specifically suggests what “cities” should do. He seems to clearly be speaking in the overall context of combating illegal guns and he brings up the irrefutable fact that young black males are the most likely victims of gun violence.

    Still, that is far different than him saying the 2nd Amendment would be null and void for a group of people based on age, race, or sex.

  230. jason says:

    Still waiting for you to come up with a post where I called Trump a “klansman”.

    As well as other lies about what I have said, there are so many.

    And of course, Trump’s travel ban from several Muslim countries was upheld by SCOTUS, so I guess SCOTUS disagreed with Corey’s “Muslim ban”.

  231. jason says:

    He seems to clearly be speaking in the overall context of combating illegal guns”

    Funny, I didn’t read anything about “illegal” guns.

    Did you just make that up?

  232. CG says:

    The Muslim ban had to get severely watered down before it was “Constitutional.”

    It may be Constitutional after it was watered down, but that doesn’t mean it was good policy.

    As a candidate Trump stood up in SC and specifically said he would ban all Muslims from entering the US (not even distinguishing at the time from American citizens) until “We know what the hell is going on.”

  233. jason says:

    Illegal guns are illegal.

    Was Bloomberg just saying that we should just enforce existing gun laws?

    What a novel idea!

  234. CG says:

    You would have to assume that gang-bangers are buying guns legally then? That’s not happening.

    Some people say it is racist to point out that those being killed and doing the killing in inner city gang wars are African-American. You seem to be one of them. Typically, it’s people like Al Sharpton who say that. So, I guess you are being very PC when it suits your needs.

    Again, I would disagree with the steps Bloomberg would likely advocate on legal gun purchase, etc, but there is nothing to suggest he wants a different tiered system or separate laws for “18-25 year old black males.”

  235. jason says:

    It may be Constitutional after it was watered down, but that doesn’t mean it was good policy.”

    Ah, the goalposts are moving…

    Now we are talking about “bad policy”.

    We went from “Trump’s Muslim Ban”, which doesn’t exist, to “bad policy”.

    Actually, I had no problem with the policy myself, although I thought it should be temporary until better vetting procedures were in place.

  236. CG says:

    Yes, this is simple.

    As a candidate he proposed a “Muslim Ban.” The next day he watered down what he said it would be.

    Then, he gets sworn in as President and almost immediately put an EO into place. That gets struck down by the courts. The EO is then watered down so it gets approved by the courts.

    The courts are likely right as far as the Constitution is concerned about what is legal. Nonetheless, a lot of things that Courts have said are legal are bad policy.

  237. CG says:

    The initial proposal extended to all Muslims. As he originally read it, a natural born American citizen who went on vacation to Canada could not return. Only far later did the EO say, “these specific countries only” and then they had to make exceptions for translators and people who had worked with the military, etc.

  238. jason says:

    Some people say it is racist to point out that those being killed and doing the killing in inner city gang wars are African-American.”

    No, I don’t think that at all.

    I think it is racist to propose banning guns to a certain race, gender and age group, which is what Bloomberg is suggesting.

    If he was serious about murders in Chicago, he would look at the underlying problems and reasons, not just guns.

    But he is not serious, he just wants to cater to the nanny staters and get a headline.

    Trump, with his initiatives to promote better economic opportunities in inner cities with the opportunity zones, is doing a lot more to address the problem than Bloombeg is.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-signing-executive-order-establishing-white-house-opportunity-revitalization-council/

  239. CG says:

    The gangs are the underlying problem and reason for the murder rate in Chicago. It may be un-PC to say but almost all of them are black (with some pockets of Hispanic gang violence). Of course nearly even innocent victim caught in the crossfire of the gangs in Chicago is also black. It is a human tragedy.

    That is the underlying problem, and there are of course many societal issues at play regarding the role of the family, etc, It is also true that illegally dumped guns from Indiana are playing a part in how these gangs do the killing, not that they would be angels without them of course.

    I just want honesty about what Bloomberg actually said/proposed. There is a lot to criticize about it, but he did not propose what is being claimed.

  240. Tina says:

    Please let Dumberg be the Drat nominee.

    Pub lease.

  241. jason says:

    The initial proposal extended to all Muslims”

    That is a lie, the EO never stated “all Muslims”.

    You are watching too much MSNBC.

    As Corey just stated above:

    “This was related to him deliberately saying provocative things (often taken out of context by the Left)”

  242. CG says:

    As I said, “initial proposal” relates to what he said as a candidate. He stood at a podium in SC and read a piece of paper and then people cheered.

    In January 2017, an EO was put into place and then withdrawn to be re-written (watered down)

  243. CG says:

    A candidate cannot put out an EO. Only a President can.

    I know you once thought that it was possible that a 4 year old Michael Jackson killed JFK but I thought you were a little smarter than this to understand the differences between a campaign proposal and an EO.

  244. CG says:

    They had to add North Korea and Venezuela before the Court would concede it was not a “Muslim Ban.”

  245. jason says:

    The moonbats won’t vote for Bloomberg, no matter how left he lurches, because he was once a Republican.

    He is even apologizing for frisk and search, which was actually very successful in reducing crime.

    Bloomberg is a nanny state anti 2nd amendment moron and he has bought the climate change propaganda.

    Still, put a gun to my head, I would rather have him as President than Biden, Warren, Bernie or Mayor Butt.

    Also, I am not that convinced he couldn’t win a GE.

    I only want him to be the nominee if Trump is certainly going to lose.

    Otherwise I prefer the nominee to be Sanders or Warren.

  246. Tina says:

    Muslim ban, lol.

    Title 8 of the United States Code § 1182, which discusses inadmissible aliens. Paragraph (f) states:

    Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.[a]

  247. CG says:

    The initial statement that Trump made as a candidate was taken down from his campaign website.

    It says, “you are looking for something that does not exist” and cutely they have a picture of Hillary at the POTUS podium.

  248. Tina says:

    A Muslim ban that did not list Indonesia and included North Korea and Venezuela.

    Lots of Muslims in North Korea and Venezuela.

  249. NYCmike says:

    in regard to MS-13:

    “CG” would rather have a President who would do nothing about them instead of going after them with the full force of the state like Trump has…….BUT he will defend Trump when Democrats take him out of context in this matter.

    Oh, THANKS! What a stand up guy!

    “CG”: Screw the dead minorities that MS-13 kills, but I’ll defend Trump if the Dems misquote him.

  250. CG says:

    What was ruled as legal was the 5th or 6th version of what Trump first said he wanted as a candidate.

    He clearly said in 2016 “all Muslims” and bunu’s new friends here all bashed him for it at the time. (except for Tina and NYC of course)

  251. CG says:

    I was unaware that only Trump opposed MS-13. Gee that changes everything.

    Let’s oppose MS-13 with every tool in the arsenal while also being honest and saying that they are far from representative of non-white immigrants.

  252. Tina says:

    I heart ms 13. 5ey need to be citizens.

    -jebot

  253. jason says:

    “They had to add North Korea and Venezuela before the Court would concede it was not a “Muslim Ban.”

    Whatever, the point was there was never any “Muslim ban”.

    It was a temporary restriction on travel from terrorism sponsoring states that happened to be mostly Muslim, which is something else entirely.

    And of course, as the courts upheld, it is the prerogative of the President to do so.

  254. NYCmike says:

    “Let’s oppose MS-13 with every tool in the arsenal …”

    -If you ran for office, the media would say: “You sound like President Trump…..you must be racist!”

  255. PresidentPaul! says:

    What is going on in the repo market

    What’s missing. Why is it missing. It’s a murder mystery.

  256. lisab says:

    did trump ban indians from coming to the usa?!!!

    it has 200 million muslims

  257. Phil says:

    Republicans in the Senate should wait a week or so and then pass a resolution to dismiss if they don’t get the articles within ten days of passage of the resolution.

    It’s a political winner. Forces Pelosi’s hand. It shows Republicans are perfectly wiling to go ahead with a trial and look at the evidence, but not indefinitely wait around. Very reasonable. After all, Pelosi and Schiff rushed the articles through the House ‘because it was urgent”. Ok, Nancy. Put up or shut up. It’s either urgent or it’s not. Not sending the articles over within a ten day deadline just reinforces Republican arguments that this was nothing but a contrived political theater. Not a good look.

  258. Phil says:

    Should have said if the articles aren’t sent over by the end of the ten days as set forth by the resolution the case is dismissed.

  259. jason says:

    Finally Corey admits there was no Muslim ban in what was proposed the first, second, third, 50th EO.

    We are down now to something Trump might have said at a rally.

  260. Tina says:

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    #BREAKING: Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, Deputy Commander of Hashd al-Shaabi and Qassem Solaimi Commander of IRGC killed in Baghdad — Hezbollah’s Mayadeen says.

  261. Tina says:

    I believe the Sc (when hearing the Jebot Muslim ban) went to town on the lawfare types for using campaign statements on trump/any candidate when citing legal matters.

    In short, they cannot be used and there was no Muslim ban.

  262. Tina says:

    Looks like we took, out several high value Iranian targets in Iraq.

    Including big fish, Solaimi.

  263. jason says:

    Bunu enjoys posting links nobody is going click on.

  264. jason says:

    “Repo market explained with possible dollar collapse pending.”

    Must be fascinating.

  265. jason says:

    “Muslim ban” is a far left and MSM (I repeat myself) talking point.

    Corey is really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

    I certainly would not support a Muslim ban, but I think close vetting of travelers from countries sponsoring terrorism is a good idea. So does Trump.

  266. jason says:

    -I think jason is a “Little Women Man”.

    I didn’t waste time reading the link so I don’t know if its worth any points.

    It would be a bonus after “populist nationalist Trump supporter”.

  267. Tina says:

    Not a religious scholar?

    The Washington Post
    @washingtonpost
    · 25m
    Breaking news: Airstrike at Baghdad airport kills Iran’s most revered military leader, Qasem Soleimani, Iraqi state television reports https://wapo.st/2N5y2m3

  268. Cash Cow TM says:

    “jason says:
    January 2, 2020 at 7:07 am
    Have Walt and Cash Cow taken up coding yet?”

    ****************************************

    I know not of what you speak.

  269. Tina says:

    Jack Posobiec
    @JackPosobiec
    ·
    1m
    New reports that US Marines have arrested Qais al-Khazali and Hadi al-Ameri

    Hadi al-Ameri visited the Obama White House in 2011 and recently led a ln assault on US Embassy Baghdad with Hezbollah

  270. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “At least three rockets were fired at Baghdad International Airport Friday killing at least seven people, including Iranian Gen. Qassim Soleimani, the head of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps’ elite Quds Force, according to multiple reports early Friday.”

    Wow! This would be the equivalent of the British taking out George Washington during the Revolutionary War.

  271. jason says:

    I know not of what you speak.”

    Biden said West Virginia coal miners should “learn how to code”.

  272. jason says:

    Not a religious scholar?”

    “Revered”

  273. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    In many respects, taking out Soleimani had a more important impact than killing Ben Laden — since Soleimani was still actively involved in terror operations. This follows Trump taking out al Baghdadi.

    There are many bad guys in the world who are not going to be sleeping soundly anymore.

  274. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    All these actions against Iran are a major escalation by the USA.It sounds like US Intelligence was spot-on.
    I agree with the mission, but I also expect serious retaliation in some form by Iran. Fingers-Crossed.

  275. mR.viTO says:

    Saw some on twitter saying that the second in command of Hezbollah was also killed…

  276. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Meanwhile the U.S. continues to support our Kurdish allies.

    “ERBIL (Kurdistan 24) – The Kurdish-led Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF) announced on Tuesday that their counter-terrorism units prevented an attack in northeastern Syria by a sleeper cell of the Islamic State.
    “The cell was in preparations for carrying out suicide attacks against the civilian population with car-bombs in Qamishli, Hassakeh and Derik,” the SDF Press Office said in a statement.
    According to the SDF, as part of the operation, its units made several arrests, including an Iraqi suspect named Fourat Sultan Hussein, known as “Abu Monzer,” in the town of Shaddadi in Hasakah province.
    * * *
    In a Pentagon Inspector General report from November, the US Defense Intelligence Agency expressed worries that the reduction in counterterrorism pressure “will provide the group with time and space to expand its ability to conduct transnational attacks targeting the West.”
    After US President Donald Trump’s decision in late October to leave between 500 to 600 American troops in Syria to protect oilfields, the SDF continued counter-Islamic State operations, including those targeting the extremist group’s smuggling networks.”

  277. Tina says:

    Pretty dumb for the mullahs to be doing this in eye sight of us forces and the escalation.

  278. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    288. If they do try and retaliate, it gives the U.S. and Israel the excuse to take out Iran’s nuclear capabilities, which needs to happen.

  279. Tina says:

    He and Ben Rhodes are shook. Btw Congress has no say.

    Chris Murphy
    @ChrisMurphyCT
    · 31m
    Soleimani was an enemy of the United States. That’s not a question.

    The question is this – as reports suggest, did America just assassinate, without any congressional authorization, the second most powerful person in Iran, knowingly setting off a potential massive regional war?

  280. Tina says:

    From the looks of it, seems like we did a successful decapitation strike against Iranian terrorists.

  281. Hugh says:

    Great job Trump. Dismantling Obama’s disastrous foreign policy!!!

  282. mR.viTO says:

    (((AG)))
    @AGHamilton29
    ·
    7m
    Two days apart. It really is sad what partisanship is doing to people.

    First @ChrisMurphyCT
    complains that we are impotent and just praying for the bad guys to go away, then he declares it was wrong for us to take out the worst bad guy in the region.

    Shameless.

  283. Phil says:

    Yep. The protest by “the mourners” at our American embassy in Baghdad is Trump’s Benghazi. Same exact thing. Why, I remember when Obama immediately sent in the marines to protect our diplomats besieged in Libya…er, wait a sec. OK, maybe we didn’t do that but we immediately retaliated and took out the leaders responsible for the attack…er, hold it. Maybe we didn’t do that either. Well, it was the exact same incident, dammit! And, and, and…Trump didn’t handle the situation any different than Obama. Yeah, that’s my story and I’m sticking to it!!!

    LOL

    Trump makes the MSM look more silly by the day….or rather, they make themselves look more silly on a daily basis.

    Just to set the record straight, Trump unlike Obama immediately protected our embassy personnel with the necessary resources and then, unlike Obama, took out the leadership responsible for it all within 36 hours.

    Oh, yeah, and Trump wasn’t playing golf during it all as reported by CNN and the NYT.

  284. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    293. Senator Murphy’s text has to be the most asinine comments I have read in a long time. He most be seeking the Democratic vice presidential nomination. If the Democrats echo Murphy, Trump gets re-elected easily.

  285. mR.viTO says:

    Gee, I hope he informed Nancy.

  286. NYCmike says:

    https://www.jns.org/is-turkey-trying-to-sabotage-the-massive-new-israel-cyprus-greece-eastmed-gas-deal/

    -And then there is this with Turkey….the Middle East is one big f*cked up jigsaw puzzle!

  287. Phil says:

    Dead on, SDC.

    Democrats are really reaching here. They’ve completely lost it.

  288. NYCmike says:

    “CG” and Robbie – any thoughts?

  289. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    So after this, the Democrats are going to try and impeach Trump in the Senate? Would not surprise me if Pelosi continues to delay the process indefinitely. I still want to know why Hunter Biden was tagging along on Joe Biden’s diplomatic trips, and collecting lucrative consulting contracts along the way.

  290. Tina says:

    Soleimani is responsible for killing the American contractor; launching attacks against our forces in Iraq, and this

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/act-of-war-mattis-says-obamas-inept-response-to-cafe-milano-bomb-plot-emboldened-iran

  291. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    300. Turkey is also planning to send troops to Libya to support a faction in the civil war. Russian mercenaries, supported by Putin, are supporting another faction. Erdogen is taking on everyone.

  292. Tina says:

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    Steven nabil
    @thestevennabil
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    Sulaimani is Iran’s second most powerful man, after Ayatollah Khamenai the leader of the Iranian Islamic revolution. He is in charge of the Iranian political, economical and military influence in the entire region. Lebanon, Iraq, Syria and Yemen and Gaza strip.

  293. Tina says:

    IRCg was designated as a terrorist group by the president in April of 2019.

    To the Connecticut Drat Senator, there is your legal basis.

  294. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I hope Tucker Carlson doesn’t bring the MacGregor clown on his show to attack Trump’s actions.

  295. Tina says:

    Gee, no more pallets for cash?

  296. mR.viTO says:

    I’m liking the pallets of lead strategy better.

  297. Tina says:

    Steven nabil
    @thestevennabil
    · 26m
    Breaking: among the killed are the Iranian son in law of Qassim Sulaimani and the son in law of Lebanese commander Imad Mughnia(killed earlier) #Baghdad #Iraq #QudsForce

  298. PresidentPaul! says:

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    UK to imprison those who look at right wing websites for up to 15 years.

  299. PresidentPaul! says:

    2020 election diagram and guide
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  300. PresidentPaul! says:

    Report: Hunter Biden’s Chinese Firm Invested in African ‘Blood Mine’
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/01/02/report-hunter-bidens-chinese-firm-invested-in-african-blood-mine/

  301. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @Liz_Cheney
    Qassem Soleimani was an evil and deadly terrorist with the blood of thousands, including hundreds of Americans, on his hands. @realDonaldTrump was right to order decisive action to kill Soleimani to prevent further attacks and defend American lives and interests.

    The estimate is about 600 U.S. troops were killed by people acting under orders from Soleimani.

  302. Bitterlaw says:

    Uh oh. The newly elected Dems in my town may change the voting machines so you have to vote FOR somebody instead of AGAINST somebody. Might have to sit out the race for President. Unfortunately, that would help to elect a Dem.

  303. lisab says:

    can someone tell me why the iranian general was at the baghdad airport?

  304. lisab says:

    and why would we have to shoot a missile at the iraqi airport?

  305. lisab says:

    and yes … i think the dems are going to add this to the list of impeachable offences

  306. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    319. “and why would we have to shoot a missile at the iraqi airport?”

    The U.S. missile was part of the welcoming committee.

    “An official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told The Associated Press that Muhandis had arrived to the airport in a convoy to receive Soleimani whose plane had arrived from either Lebanon or Syria. The airstrike occurred as soon as he descended from the plane to be greeted by Muhandis and his companions, killing them all.”

  307. lisab says:

    but why the heck was he there?

  308. lisab says:

    let me clarify …

    why would the iraqis let an iranian general, especially this one, into the country?

  309. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    323. Because the Iraqi leadership are Shia Moslems that are close to Iran. Iran helped the Shia government take down ISIS. One reason there were anti-Iran riots in Iraq over the last several weeks is Iraqi citizens, including Shia Iraqis, resent their government being too close to Iran.

  310. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This all goes back to horrible blunders made by President Obama. The U.S. had strong support from the Sunni “Awakening Council” militias. Rather than help work out a sensible power sharing arrangement between Shia, Sunnis and Kurds — Obama quickly withdraw. The Iranian supported a Shia government that oppressed the Sunni. Many Sunni’s turned to ISIS as an alternative. Things go so bad, the U.S. and Europe had to intervene to put down ISIS.

    We should never had invaded Iraq to begin with. It was a major blunder. But you break it, you fix it. Also, during the last decade, because of fracking we lost the dependency on Mideast oil, so can responsibly disengage. If the Democrats ban fracking, then we probably would become dependent on Mideast oil again.

  311. lisab says:

    “i want to announce that i have found conclusive evidence that will lead to the arrest and conviction of hillary clinton”

    soleimani, 1/1/2020

  312. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “I though retaining Hunter Biden as a consultant for a million dollars a year would protect me?”

    soleimani, 1/1/2020

  313. Bitterlaw says:

    Because I am a warmonger, I am fine with the air strike (although killing high ranking military officials of sovereign countries that are not formally at war with us is a bit of a stretch), I do not like shooting up airports. Air travel around the holidays is bad enough without missiles raining down.

  314. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    328. “(although killing high ranking military officials of sovereign countries that are not formally at war with us is a bit of a stretch)”

    What piece of paper do you need to satisfy the question of whether or not we are at war with a militia that is responsible for about 600 service members deaths?

    “Mara Karlin ? a former defense official with expertise in the region who most recently served as deputy assistant secretary of defense for strategy and force development ? noted that military officers who served in Iraq during the days when Iran was supplying arms to insurgents have a dark view of Soleimani personally.

    “Don’t underestimate the hatred and vitriol that senior U.S. military officials with experience in Iraq have toward Qassem Soleimani,” she said. “He has the blood of hundreds of American troops on his hands. The consequences of killing Soleimani ? the most influential Middle East military official for decades ? cannot be underestimated. ”

    A U.S. State Department report estimated that Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps was responsible for 17 percent of all deaths of U.S. personnel in Iraq from 2003 to 2011 — roughly 603 casualties.”

  315. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is the background of the other terrorist killed:

    “In addition to Suleimani, the deputy of the militias known as the Popular Mobilization Units in Iraq, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, was also killed, according to Iraqi state television and the PMU.

    He had been accused of plotting attacks on the United States since the 1980s. He was convicted in absentia and sentenced to death by Kuwait for his role in the 1983 attacks on the U.S. and French embassies in Kuwait, in which five Kuwaitis were killed.”

  316. Tina says:

    Why was he there?

    Because Bush phuqed up, taking out Saddam under bogus claims. I don’t think he lied, but I do think the CIA exaggerated.

    With that, Iraq became an Iranian proxy.

    Bush 41 nsc head warned about this, as did Bush 41 (when he stopped in 1990).

  317. Tina says:

    Lol

    (although killing high ranking military officials of sovereign countries that are not formally at war with us is a bit of a stretch),

  318. Tina says:

    And proof that regime change and nation building are foolish.

  319. Bitterlaw says:

    I said it was a “bit” of a stretch. GFY.

  320. jason says:

    Uh oh. The newly elected Dems in my town may change the voting machines so you have to vote FOR somebody instead of AGAINST somebody. Might have to sit out the race for President. Unfortunately, that would help to elect a Dem”

    Not a problem here in my area. I will vote FOR Trump this time.

  321. jason says:

    I always supported Obama’s drone strikes to kill terrorists.

    And there is no “stretch” to kill a military officer of a “sovereign” country who is in another country fomenting terrorism against our troops and the US in general. If he was in Iran it could be a stretch, but he was killed in Baghdad, and we know what he was doing there.

  322. jason says:

    Because Bush phuqed up, taking out Saddam under bogus claims”

    There was nothing bogus about the claims about Saddam.

  323. jason says:

    Saddam started a war with Iran that killed a million people, including the use of WMD. He invaded Kuwait to try to corner the oil market and blackmail the West. He lobbed SCUDS into Israel and Saudi Arabia with the express purpose of killing civilians. He was responsible for the greatest ecological disaster of all time by purposefully setting fire to 700 oil wells. He sponsored terrorism in Israel by rewarding the families of suicide bombers. He killed thousands of his own people with WMD. He executed hundreds of thousands of his own people. He starved and denied medical care for his own people by diverting Oil for Food funds to procure more military weapons. He robbed Iraq of hundreds of millions. He refused to come clean on WMD and thumbed his nose at the UN inspectors.

    One of the smartest things I ever heard GWB say was “trusting in the sanity of Saddam Hussein is not an option”.

    Bush was right to take out Saddam, WMD or no WMD.

  324. Wes says:

    Jason is rationalizing GWB’s lies and failures again.

    Of course I guess if you’re thrilled Obama had a cakewalk of an election in 2008 and promptly implemented one of the most radically left-wing agendas in history then being a GWB bobble head makes sense.

  325. Tina says:

    Yes, saddam was no choi boy, but he stalemated the Iranians.

    The Iranian mullah gubment is our enemy.

    They seized our embassy

    Killed Americans in Beirut

    Got the obumbler regime to hand out billions in cash for them.

    Seized a us military boat, while obumbler was handing out cash to the mullahs.

    Destroyed a drone

    The Iranians were warned by trump.

  326. Tina says:

    After getting the cash, a bribe, the mullahs did not stop.

    They increased their activities in Yemen, Syria, Lebanon, etc.

  327. Tina says:

    This is funny

    LIVE Breaking News

    @NewsBreaking
    BREAKING: Sen. Schumer was not given advance notice of the airstrikes in Baghdad – CNN
    23 replies 110 retweets 353 likes
    Reply 23 Retweet 110 Like 353

  328. Bitterlaw says:

    Why does Wes always talk about Bush’s lies but never claims that Israel, the UK, France, and Germany all reached the same conclusion about Saddam’s WMD program? I guess DailyKOS does not give out talking points beyond GWB.

  329. Wes says:

    Why is Bitter upset Clinton lied about Lewinsky and triggered no deaths but completely fine with the fact that GWB lied about Saddam and got 461,000 people killed?

    Lies that result in no deaths are abominations apparently.

    Lies that kill the equivalent of the population of a medium-sized city are perfectly acceptable, I guess.

  330. jason says:

    Bush didn’t lie about Saddam.

    He acted with the information available and did the right thing.

    Of course everyone who has ever gone to jail for lying under oath will now be able to sue for damages since wes has established a new criteria for lying under oath. It is ok if nobody dies.

  331. jason says:

    Saddam started a war with Iran that killed a million people, including the use of WMD. He invaded Kuwait to try to corner the oil market and blackmail the West. He lobbed SCUDS into Israel and Saudi Arabia with the express purpose of killing civilians. He was responsible for the greatest ecological disaster of all time by purposefully setting fire to 700 oil wells. He sponsored terrorism in Israel by rewarding the families of suicide bombers. He killed thousands of his own people with WMD. He executed hundreds of thousands of his own people. He starved and denied medical care for his own people by diverting Oil for Food funds to procure more military weapons. He robbed Iraq of hundreds of millions. He refused to come clean on WMD and thumbed his nose at the UN inspectors.”

    Rationalizing…

    LOL

  332. jason says:

    Lies that kill the equivalent of the population of a medium-sized city are perfectly acceptable, I guess.”

    Zzzzzz….

    Saddam killed a million people with his unprovoked war against Iran. He killed hundreds of thousands of his own people including torture and gassing them with WMD. He was responsible for the Kuwait war which again killed thousands of innocent.

    But all that was ok. The problem is collateral damage from a war that Saddam brought on himself.

    I love it when wes tries to rewrite history. Always an epic failure.

  333. Wes says:

    Drinking the Bush Kool-Aid has warped Jason’s brain to the point of sheer lunacy.

    He refers to the deaths of almost a half million people “collateral damage.” No wonder GWB is one of the most hated Presidents ever.

    I never claimed Saddam didn’t kill all those people, but that occurred mostly a decade before we invaded.

    That’s a little factoid Jason conveniently ignores.

    Of course all the “collateral damage “ Jason sleazily rationalizes occurred on GWB’s watch. Jason doesn’t give a good goddamn about all the people ISIS killed while, according to GWB, Iraq was “welcoming us as liberators” just so long as he can get his microdick hard over a war.

  334. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Wes
    Today, a lot of people are Monday Morning Quarterbacking the decision to remove Saddam Hussein.
    We won the war but lost the post-op due to bad planning and fecklessness by the Bush 43 Administration.
    In my opinion, the Iraq incursion started a short time after the 9-11 attacks and a vast majority of Americans wanted paypack,big time, and agreed with Bush 43 that it was time “to drain the Middle East swamp”!

  335. Phil says:

    Actress Rose McGowan “begs” Iran for forgiveness.

    Hollywood and the left in general is beyond parody.

  336. Bitterlaw says:

    I rarely mention Clinton/Lewinsky. Of course, Wes never mentions the fact that Israel, the UK, France and Germany also believed that Saddam had WMDs. For some reason, Wes thinks that being wrong is the same as lying. He can’t grasp that they are different. DailyKOS only has so much room in its talking points.

    Wes’ reverence for Bill Clinton is understandable. Both are amoral. Both treat women as discardable sperm receptacles. Wes is just jealous that he doesn’t have desk for his Lewinsky actions.

  337. Wes says:

    Is McGowan also begging Harvey Weinstein for forgiveness?

    Too soon?

    I don’t care.

  338. Wes says:

    I have to admit the last line in 351 made me laugh.

    Good job, Bitter.

  339. dblaikie says:

    There is no mistake that George Bush made errors that were costly concerning Iraq. However there is no proof he was deceiving or lying. Certainly Colin Powell was persuaded by the intelligence. If he was lying or fabricating that would be worse than Clinton. Frankly I lay the blame at the feet of the Intelligence Agencies. Far more than plain deceit it is far more logical to assume they misjudged and bungled the intelligence coming in.

  340. Wes says:

    Malcolm McDowell shows us what Jason thinks of the “collateral damage” in Iraq:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GnSx7q89y1g

  341. Cash Cow TM says:

    The Iranian general killed by the missile at Baghdad airport bears some resemblance to J. Epstein who may have hanged himself in jail.

    Just saying…

  342. Tina says:

    Phil, re #350,

    Have the click or whatever they are called in the House of Reps said anything.

    Tilapia and Mullah Omar are likely in mourning.

  343. Tina says:

    Notice how trump seems to always take military actions when he is out of the White House?

    I bet he cannot trust the enemy within, the nsc leakers led by Lt Colonel Victim.

  344. Tina says:

    Whoops, there goes the idea touted by the jebots of any split between trump and Bolton:

    John Bolton
    @AmbJohnBolton
    · 4h
    Congratulations to all involved in eliminating Qassem Soleimani. Long in the making, this was a decisive blow against Iran’s malign Quds Force activities worldwide. Hope this is the first step to regime change in Tehran.

  345. Tina says:

    IRGC confirms four senior members were killed whilst accompanying Soleimani:

    1- General Hussein Jaafari Naya
    2- Colonel Shahroud Muzaffari Niya
    3- Major Hadi Tarmi
    4-Captain Waheed Zamanian

  346. jason says:

    the MSM is a joke…

    “The US killed Suleiman, but can it kill the myth?”

    Pardon me while I vomit….

  347. jason says:

    here is no mistake that George Bush made errors that were costly concerning Iraq. However there is no proof he was deceiving or lying. Certainly Colin Powell was persuaded by the intelligence.”

    If Bush was lying, here are some of the other people who were “lying” that he forgot to mention.

    Colin Powell. Hillary and Bill Clinton. John Kerry. Tony Blair. The intelligence services of the entire NATO alliance, Israel, and others.

    And even:

    “We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country.”
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

    “Iraq’s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.”
    Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

    We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass
    destruction. “[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction … So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real …
    Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

    “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
    Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

    During the 2004 campaign, John Kerry said he would still have voted Yes on the war resolution despite WMD not being found.

    According to wes, all the people must be “liars”

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  349. Messy says:

    The Daily Caller of all people has just turned on Trump. https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/03/trump-predicted-obama-would-attack-iran-to-get-re-elected/

    At least the Israelis would have been discrete about it.

  350. jason says:

    I never claimed Saddam didn’t kill all those people, but that occurred mostly a decade before we invaded.”

    LOL

    wes has a new standard for mass murder. It’s ok as long as it happened almost “a decade ago”.

    And of course, if Saddam was capable of mass murder 10 years ago, does that mean he is no longer willing to commit mass murder again.

    Geezus.

  351. Messy says:

    347. Iran had been lobbing missiles and mortar shells over the border since their was founded. It wasn’t unprovoked.

  352. jason says:

    Did Trump attack Iran?

    Messy must have inside information.

    But at least she is expanding her horizons.

    I suggest Instapundit, Redstate, Hotair and Powerline too.

  353. Phil says:

    STFU, Messy.

  354. mRviTO says:

    I don’t see a single negative comment about Trump in that article… at the end of says some Democrats are claiming Trump is trying to start a war with Iran.

  355. jason says:

    Iran had been lobbing missiles and mortar shells over the border since their was founded. It wasn’t unprovoked.”

    BS.

    Iran and Iraq had border skirmishes for years.

    But it was clear that Saddam started the war, unprovoked. He wanted to annex part of Iran, and overthrow the Iranian regime.

    Nothing to do with “shells over the border”. Your ignorance is just amazing.

    “Iraq launched a full-scale invasion of Iran on 22 September 1980. The Iraqi Air Force launched surprise air strikes on ten Iranian airfields with the objective of destroying the Iranian Air Force. The attack failed to damage the Iranian Air Force significantly; it damaged some of Iran’s airbase infrastructure, but failed to destroy a significant number of aircraft. The Iraqi Air Force was only able to strike in depth with a few MiG-23BN, Tu-22, and Su-20 aircraft, and Iran had built hardened aircraft shelters where most of its combat aircraft were stored.

    The next day, Iraq launched a ground invasion along a front measuring 644 km (400 mi) in three simultaneous attacks. The invasion’s purpose, according to Saddam, was to blunt the edge of Khomeini’s movement and to thwart his attempts to export his Islamic revolution to Iraq and the Persian Gulf states. Saddam hoped that by annexing Khuzestan, he would cause such a blow to Iran’s prestige that it would lead to the new government’s downfall, or at least end Iran’s calls for his overthrow”

  356. jason says:

    I don’t see a single negative comment about Trump in that article”

    Messy probably read some “interpretation” of Daily Caller at one of her far left wing sites.

    But you got to love the explanation that Iraq started a full scale war against Iran because of “lobbing of mortar shells” across the border.

  357. Tom says:

    The current mess in the middle east started with Iran and needs to end with Iran. And it won’t as long as the current regime is in place. Unfortunately, just like in Venezuela, no amount of internal opposition or external sanctions will accomplish this.

    I lived in Panama under Noriega. Towards the end, the country was in shambles, but with aid from Cuba, Russia, and China Noriega could have held out indefinitely. All he had to do is continue to pay his troops. It took an external invasion depose him.

  358. Wes says:

    Jason’s sexual fixation on war regardless of the specious nature of the justification is truly pathetic to behold.

  359. jason says:

    Jason’s sexual fixation on war”

    Hey, Bitter, got to be worth something…

  360. jason says:

    Adam Schiff:

    “Soleimani was responsible for unthinkable violence and world is better off without him.”

    However, he still thinks he should be left alone to continue killing Americans.

  361. jason says:

    All he had to do is continue to pay his troops. It took an external invasion depose him.”

    Yep. And the same with Saddam. Only an invasion would get rid of him. And only regime change would get him hanged.

  362. jason says:

    I supported the invasion of Grenada. Haiti. Bombing of Serbia. Panama. Afghanistan. Iraq. I probably missed a few that I supported also. It didn’t matter if it was a Republican or Democrat President. All these interventions were necessary and appropriate, whether the subsequent management was good or bad is a separate issue.

    I didn’t know it was sexual, however. So there’s that.

  363. jason says:

    Elizabeth Warren:

    “Soleimani was a murderer, responsible for the deaths of thousands, including hundreds of Americans.”

    But let’s not do anything about it.

  364. jason says:

    I admire trusting souls like wes.

    Just because Saddam had used WMD ten times since 1983, it would be crazy to think he might do it an eleventh time….

    “He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983.”
    Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

  365. Wes says:

    No one claims to have trusted Saddam, but Lt. Col. Nicholson—I mean, Jason—insists Saddam was somehow going to use weapons there’s no evidence Iraq had had for a full 12 years before the war.

    Well, his precious bridge (Iraq) blew up in his face just as was inevitable.

    That Lt. Col. Nicholson—I mean, Jason—has to cite Sandy Burger—a known liar, thief, and Clinton lackey who stole and destroyed federal documents—to make his case only underscores the weakness of his argument.

    I mean, Clinton and his cronies were pathological liars who undermined American national security, so Jason claims, but I guess when statements made by one of them help the jingoistic arguments of Bush’s sycophants, they’re 100% trustworthy and accurate in their statements.

    Who knew?

  366. John says:

    CNN just reported that Iranians in Tehran are protesting with signs “Death to America” and burning US flags.
    Analysis…this could have happened last week, last month, last year or November 4, 1979…

  367. Tina says:

    Will John Kerry give the eulogy for Salami?

  368. Phil says:

    I think Kerry would be perfect to give the eulogy, Tina.

  369. CG says:

    When will Rand Paul speak at the ceremony?

  370. Phil says:

    Right after Coongresswoman Omar.

  371. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #385- Phil
    Yes, Francois Kerry would be the ideal eulogizer for Soleimani’s farewell party, but only if he brings James Taylor with him to sing “You’ve Got A Friend”. If you remember, Kerry did this to eulogize the victims of one of the terrorist attacks in France. The man is one of the Greatest Thinkers of the 21st Century!

  372. CG says:

    Please tell me there was a typo in 387!

  373. Phil says:

    Well, Sheeple, that and bring along another sack of unmarked dollar bills – you know, for the mullah mourners in the funeral congregation.

  374. Tina says:

    Impeachment 3rd reason

    Trump ate ice cream and meatloaf during raid.

  375. NYCmike says:

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/rand-paul-denounces-trumps-attack-iranian-general-without-congressional-approval-110946

    ““If we are to go to war w/ Iran the Constitution dictates that we declare war. A war without a Congressional declaration is a recipe for feckless intermittent eruptions of violence w/ no clear mission for our soldiers.””

    -This isn’t the least bit controversial.

    And it also doesn’t show any support for the Iranians.

  376. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    On an unrelated subject, this is good news:

    Ozerdern not renominated as Circuit Judge(H/T:RRH)
    https://twitter.com/fedjudges/status/1213181897678950400?s=20

  377. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #391
    I am surprised that the so-called journalist did not mention the number of scoops consumed by the President.

    CNN has gone from the ridiculous to the sublime. It is no longer a news station, but DNC TV!

  378. CG says:

    We would need Congressional approval to stop an “imminent attack?” That seems pretty risky in terms of timeframes.

    Besides, didn’t Congress already do that after 9/11.The War is still being fought. The enemy never announced their surrender.

    Perhaps Rand Paul believes that an attack was not imminent and Trump just lied and made it all up. A lot of people probably think that.

  379. Tina says:

    The obumbler could be the alternate though. Maybe he can give some of his cash away.

    Her thighness can accompany him.

    Cn and n can video it.

  380. Tina says:

    He ate vanilla ice cream.

    This is racist and violates some religious customs of the mullahs

    Wolf Blitzkrieg cnn

  381. Tina says:

    Piglosi is obviously drunk.

    Aumf covers Iran.

    Plus one cannot sir aroubd and do nothing if an embassy is attacked unless you are Hillary and obumbler. And more so if you tube is involved.

  382. Phil says:

    Yes, vanilla is white. No chocolate? Another piece of evidence that Trump is a racist. How much proof do Americans need?

  383. Tina says:

    Yes let the lawyahs shovel papers.

    LIVE Breaking News
    @NewsBreaking
    · 32m
    BREAKING: Iranian Foreign Minister says Iran will launch “legal measures” at the international level to “hold US to account” for the killing of Soleimani. “It was clearly a terrorist action,” he said – Al Jazeera

  384. NYCmike says:

    “Trump ate ice cream and meatloaf during raid.”

    Tina,

    If he ate the ice cream BEFORE the meatloaf, he should be impeached!

  385. CG says:

    He then got confused about what job he had and “fired” Meat Loaf and Vanilla Ice.

  386. CG says:

    Tina supports the AUMF?

    OMG, is this real life?

  387. NYCmike says:

    “He then got confused”

    -Says the “lifelong conservative Republican” who prefers a socialist/Democratic candidate pick judges from 2017-2025 instead of the person currently doing a great job, at least in that respect.

  388. CG says:

    Doesn’t the Senate have the final say on the judges?

    When did a President get an automatic eight year term? Did you mean 2021-2025 in regards to the future?

    Well, as I have said before, one of my concerns is that if Trump and Trumpism somehow manages to eke out another win, a Democrat will wind up being the one appointing judges from 2025-3025 and beyond.

  389. NYCmike says:

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/03/ted-cruz-obama-rhodes-iran/

    -More “showboating” by Ted Cruz……of course, 99% of you all agree with him.

  390. lisab says:

    if Trump somehow manages to eke out another win …
    ——————————

    another narrow electoral college win?

  391. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    392. https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/rand-paul-denounces-trumps-attack-iranian-general-without-congressional-approval-110946

    ““If we are to go to war w/ Iran the Constitution dictates that we declare war. A war without a Congressional declaration is a recipe for feckless intermittent eruptions of violence w/ no clear mission for our soldiers.””

    What complete nonsense.

    Congress has already authorized military action in Iraq. Soleimani was killed in Iraq, where he had been a mercenary fighting with a Iraqi terrorist organization. He was responsible for the death of over 600 U.S. service members in Iraq. It does not matter that he was an Iranian citizen — he was an enemy combatant in Iraq.

    Rnd Paul is a fool. Hopefully he can be primaried out in the next election. Good riddance.

  392. NYCmike says:

    #405 – so much to unpack!

    JEB!2024

  393. jason says:

    Rand Paul is always shilling for the Iranians.

    What a despicable jerk.

  394. CG says:

    Rand Paul is always shilling for the Iranians when he is not shilling for Donald Trump.

    Fixed it.

  395. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Sen. Kyrsten Sinema said that Iranian “aggression should be checked” following the American drone strike against Qassem Soleimani.
    The Arizona Democrat released a statement Friday afternoon that stood in contrast to many other Democrats who have condemned the attack against the Iranian military commander as a dangerous escalation in the Middle East.
    “The country deserves, and the administration must provide, a coherent effective strategy to safeguard our national security,” Sinema said. “My highest priority is the safety of Arizona families. Soleimani was a terrorist, and I stand with all Arizonans in honoring the Americans killed and harmed by his actions.
    “Iran’s aggression should be checked, and we must protect all Americans at home and abroad,” she added.

  396. jason says:

    Trumpism somehow manages to eke out another win, a Democrat will wind up being the one appointing judges from 2025-3025 and beyond.”

    I will take that chance.

    Another 4 years of Trump will cement a conservative SCOTUS for a couple decades at least and a large part of the federal bench too.

    That is huge.

  397. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @marcorubio
    It is a FACT that #Soleimani spent the last several days traveling the Middle East coordinating imminent attacks by #Iran & its proxies against our troops. The fact that every Democrat running for President would have done nothing about it is reason alone to vote against them.

    Marco Rubio added,
    @JoeBiden
    Our world has been set on edge by an erratic, unstable, and dangerously incompetent commander in chief. The stakes could not be higher. Every day that Donald Trump directs American national security is a dangerous day for the United States and the world.

    Cannot think of anyone more erratic and unstable as Biden, and the fact his son used to follow him around and collect foreign cash makes him odious.

  398. NYCmike says:

    “CG” is worried about 3025……and preferred Hillary in 2016 and anyone running now instead of Trump, who picked Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and many other good judges.

  399. Tina says:

    crappy Groupie, the question you need to ask yourself is why did your leader, Piglosi, lie?

    CG says:
    January 3, 2020 at 3:19 pm
    Tina supports the AUMF?

    OMG, is this real life?

  400. Tina says:

    Enema is more conservative than Flakey.

    Who would have thought it?

  401. Tina says:

    We know where it is going, ice cream and meat loaf ain’t it.

    The drats will now spend weeks arguing that Salami was not a terrorist.

  402. lisab says:

    Chris Murphy
    ?Verified account @ChrisMurphyCT
    31 Dec 2019

    The attack on our embassy in Baghdad is horrifying but predictable.

    Trump has rendered America impotent in the Middle East. No one fears us, no one listens to us.

    America has been reduced to huddling in safe rooms, hoping the bad guys will go away.

    What a disgrace.

  403. Tina says:

    Basically,

    The drats side with terrorists, criminals, and illegals.

  404. lisab says:

    Chris Murphy
    ?Verified account @ChrisMurphyCT
    20h20 hours ago

    Soleimani was an enemy of the United States. That’s not a question.

    The question is this – as reports suggest, did America just assassinate, without any congressional authorization, the second most powerful person in Iran, knowingly setting off a potential massive regional war?

  405. lisab says:

    chris murphy was for attacking iranian terrorists before he was against it

  406. CG says:

    Stop insinuating that I voted for Hillary when I did not.

    Fake news!

  407. lisab says:

    rose mcgowan
    ?Verified account @rosemcgowan
    16h16 hours ago

    Dear #Iran, The USA has disrespected your country, your flag, your people. 52% of us humbly apologize. We want peace with your nation. We are being held hostage by a terrorist regime. We do not know how to escape. Please do not kill us. #Soleimani

  408. Tina says:

    Quote Tweet

    Sotiri Dimpinoudis
    @sotiridi
    · 1h
    #Breaking: Just in – Iranian state news media is telling via a defence officials that the retaliation will be “limited”, after the death of Iranian general Qasem Soleimani in #Baghdad, #Iraq.

  409. CG says:

    52%? That’s the number that voted against Hillary.

    54% is the number that voted against Trump, and she doesn’t speak for me on either count.

  410. Tina says:

    China Biden cannot remember he was against taking out the osama

    Steve Guest
    @SteveGuest
    ·
    43m
    Joe Biden is now trying to cover up his opposition to the Osama bin Laden raid.

    Moments ago, Biden says, “No I didn’t” when confronted by Peter Doocy for being against the raid.

    8 years ago, Biden said he opposed raid and told Obama, “Mr. President, my suggestion is don’t go.”

  411. Phil says:

    Senator Sinema of Arizona has proven to be an actual reasonable Democrat over the last year she has been in office. I didn’t think there were any reasonable Democrats left. I don’t expect her to be supportive of Trump policies but at least she has proven to be quite sane. Not many like her in that party any longer. Refreshing.

  412. Tina says:

    Mike morell, inept cia Chief, now states this?

    Daily Mail US
    ?
    Verified account

    @DailyMail
    Follow Follow @DailyMail
    More
    Ex-CIA deputy director warns Iran will set its sleeper cells loose to kill U.S. officials and civilians after strike

  413. Tina says:

    And, if Jello is correct, why did the obumbler stop the investigation of Hezbolllah sleeper cells in the U.S.?

    Seems like the obumbler was compromised by Iran.

    We need a special counselor to look into this.

  414. lisab says:

    Bloomberg: We Can’t Just Let ‘Average’ Americans Have Guns

  415. NYCmike says:

    “Stop insinuating that I voted for Hillary when I did not.”

    -You wanted Trump to lose in 2016. The opponent was Hillary.

    You want Trump to lose in 2020. The opponent will be a socialist/Democratic Party hack.

    You preferred/prefer the Democratic choice compared to the Republican choice for President.

    If that isn’t true, you would have voted for the Republican candidate.

  416. Tina says:

    And snacks and soda.

    lisab says:
    January 3, 2020 at 4:57 pm
    Bloomberg: We Can’t Just Let ‘Average’ Americans Have Guns

  417. CG says:

    And then NYC, you can find you can switch the words exactly around and it’s the same thing.

  418. CG says:

    David French is among my Most Admired Americans.

  419. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    428. “Senator Sinema of Arizona has proven to be an actual reasonable Democrat over the last year she has been in office. I didn’t think there were any reasonable Democrats left. I don’t expect her to be supportive of Trump policies but at least she has proven to be quite sane. Not many like her in that party any longer. Refreshing.”

    Speaking from experience, a lot of Mormons who rebel against the Mormon Church go through a “liberal” period in their younger lives, then reconnect with their heritage. This may be happening with Sinema; if so would not be surprised if in a couple of years she switched parties. She is very bright and talented, so would be good if it happened that way.

  420. CG says:

    She’s openly Agnostic I believe. The idea of her switching parties is nutty. No offense.

    (Amazing though the change in tune about her compared to what was being said about her in the last campaign)

  421. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    433. “Bloomberg: We Can’t Just Let ‘Average’ Americans Have Guns.”

    Bloomberg is arrogant and dishonest. He claimed to take the subway each day to work, and got caught in his lies:

    “He is public transportation’s loudest cheerleader, boasting that he takes the subway “virtually every day.”
    But Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg’s commute is not your average straphanger’s ride.
    On mornings that he takes the subway from home, Mr. Bloomberg is picked up at his Upper East Side town house by a pair of king-size Chevrolet Suburbans. The mayor is driven 22 blocks to the subway station at 59th Street and Lexington Avenue, where he can board an express train to City Hall. His drivers zip past his neighborhood station, a local subway stop a five-minute walk away.
    That means Mr. Bloomberg — whose much-discussed subway rides have become an indelible component of his public image — spends a quarter of his ostensibly subterranean commute in an S.U.V.
    “I never see him,” said Namela Hossou, who sells newspapers every morning at the downtown entrance to the mayor’s nearest stop, at 77th Street, four blocks from the mayor’s house. “Never, never.”
    The mayor’s chief spokesman, Stu Loeser, was asked in an interview yesterday whether being driven to an express station distanced Mr. Bloomberg from the experience of the average Manhattan subway rider. Mr. Loeser replied, “Who is the average Manhattan subway-goer? I don’t think it’s an answerable question. The mayor rides the subway like anyone else. Zips his card through, stands on the platform, and waits for a train to come.”
    A spokesman for the Metropolitan Transportation Authority chuckled when asked how common it is for Manhattan residents to be driven to the subway. “Where would you drive from in Manhattan to a subway station? That would be pretty crazy,” the spokesman, Jeremy Soffin, said. Told of the mayor’s morning routine, he added, “Most people don’t have chauffeurs.”
    And most people don’t have reporters from The New York Times watching their travels, as Mr. Bloomberg did for five weeks. Almost every morning, two Suburbans waited outside his East 79th Street town house, sometimes with engines idling and windows up, until their charge was ready to leave. Uniformed police officers and the mayor’s security detail flanked the doorway as Mr. Bloomberg emerged and ducked into one of the waiting vehicles.
    As they head to the express subway, they pass two No. 6 local stops, at 77th Street and 68th Street. They pull up to the 59th Street station, across the street from Bloomingdale’s.
    Mr. Bloomberg, who entered politics as a self-made media mogul, struck a populist note early in his mayoral campaign by pledging to use mass transit. Since starting at City Hall he has invited reporters, photographers and television news anchors to ride along with him.
    The image of the billionaire straphanger has paid enormous political dividends. One transit group designated him the “MetroCard mayor,” and Newsday lauded him as the city’s “regular Joe Commuter.” Shortly after he took office, The New York Times declared Mr. Bloomberg “the first subway-riding mayor.” And his tales from the underground — for example, getting stranded on a northbound No. 4 train for half an hour — have made for useful anecdotes at his news conferences.
    Mr. Bloomberg’s use of the subway to get to work appears to have declined over time. In January 2002, he reported taking the train all but one day of his first three weeks. Nowadays, it appears, the S.U.V. is his primary mode of transportation. Based on the reporters’ observations, the mayor took the subway to work about twice a week”

  422. Phil says:

    There was a background she had which was very left wing which is all anyone had to go on during the campaign. We now have a year of her governing in office which has been quite moderate and relatively non partisan…..hence the”amazing” “Change in tune”.

  423. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    438. She is also bisexual. Its not a religious issue, she is likely to remain agnostic, so much as in many ways she is beginning to become more conservative and reflect her upbringing. She was pretty wild when younger — remember the pink tutu incident? She is now taking a positions that differ from liberal orthodoxy.

  424. Tina says:

    Poor Piglosi

    Phil Mattingly
    @Phil_Mattingly
    ·
    51m
    A few notes from SFRC Chair Jim Risch, who has been regularly briefed and spoke to POTUS today about the Soleimani strike – said he was told legal authority was under Article II and the War Powers Act.
    Was told Admin would notify Congress in 48 hrs, as required.

  425. Tina says:

    Horrible party the drats have become:

    Shem Horne
    ?

    @Shem_Infinite
    13m13 minutes ago
    More
    The Democrats were cheering when our embassy was attacked and are furious when we killed the terrorist responsible for it. The only explanation is that they hate President Trump more than they love our country.

  426. CG says:

    She was considered a fairly “moderate” Democrat in the House too. That is how she ran her Senate campaign in AZ.Her opponent focused on her much younger years, probably to that candidate’s detriment. Enough voters decided they did not care all that much.

    However, the idea that she is about to join either the LDS or the GOP is just nutty, more so the latter.

  427. CG says:

    She’s actually staking out the same profile in the Senate that she had in the House.

  428. Phil says:

    They have indeed become a horrible party. Absolutely pathetic.

    Liberals like John Kennedy and Hubert Humphrey have to be rolling in their grave today.

  429. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    444. I never said she would become LDS again. But she may reconnect with her heritage, which often happens with gay people who are LDS. Your not from that cultural background, I am. I do see a possibility of a party switch someday. She was part of the “blue dog” caucus in the House.

  430. NYCmike says:

    “(Amazing though the change in tune about her compared to what was being said about her in the last campaign)”

    -Why is it amazing to you that people consider her a more moderate Democrat than what the 2018 campaign portrayed her as?

    Have you seen her actions ie. her votes??

    What is the mystery?

    Hopefully, for the remainder of her term, she will continue to make more prudent decisions than her Democratic counterparts.

  431. Phil says:

    Some of these tweets from the left today are an absolute disgrace….and of course the Never Trumpers have jumped in as well – predictable of course.

  432. CG says:

    I understand the LDS culture just fine. From what I know about her is that she had a very rough childhood.

  433. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    448. She has a background as a flaming liberal, and there was a question of whether she was just taking moderate positions to get elected. The fact she is becoming more moderate in her views is a surprise. She is evolving in her views.

  434. CG says:

    She is most certainly not switching parties and I am about 95% certain she will vote to convict DJT and all the new found poli-crushes on Ms. Sinema will disappear.

  435. Phil says:

    452

    Bingo.

  436. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    451. “I understand the LDS culture just fine.”

    No you don’t. You have no background or experience in it.

  437. Phil says:

    Nobody is crushing over her. Good lord.

  438. CG says:

    “But she may reconnect with her heritage, which often happens with gay people who are LDS.”

    lisab to bring up Marco Rubio in 5, 4, 3..

  439. CG says:

    If she evolved, it was years ago, when she left the Green Party. She’s still pretty liberal.

  440. NYCmike says:

    You really are delusional, “CG”.

    People made note of her votes – you then take that to mean people have a “crush” on her.

    You are a better long jumper than Carl Lewis.

  441. NYCmike says:

    “I understand the LDS culture just fine.”

    -Do you share the same G-D?

  442. CG says:

    I know Mormons personally. I am a well-read person. I voted twice for Mitt Romney to be President and I voted for David Archuleta to be American Idol.

    Goodnight

  443. CG says:

    Technically, I voted three times for Romney to be President. Two primaries and one general.

    And then I even wrote in McMullen!

  444. Phil says:

    Going from moon bat sh*t crazy to pretty liberal is an evolution in itself. Like most of us here I viewed the tapes of her pre House days that were floating around at election time. Whackoville. She’s come a long way.

  445. CG says:

    Yes, Mormons and Jews have the same Judeo-Christian heritage.

    My people just stick with the original book though and weren’t really into the two sequels.

  446. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Latest Harris/Hill poll. Will see if Bloomberg is that high in other polls:

    Biden 28,
    Sanders 16,
    Warren 11,
    Buttigieg 6,
    Bloomberg 11,
    Yang 2,
    Klobuchar 2,
    Booker 2,
    Gabbard 2,
    Steyer 2,
    Castro 2,
    Delaney 2,
    Williamson 1

  447. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    461. I am surprised CG did not mention Donnie & Marie Osmond.

  448. Tina says:

    Technically, I voted for Hillary in 2016

    -jebot

  449. Tina says:

    Wow, dumberg appears to be surging.

  450. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    460. ““I understand the LDS culture just fine.”
    -Do you share the same G-D?”

    Good point. The LDS concept of G-D is totally different from other religions. The LDS G-D is an evolved person, who has a body and a wife or wives. Under LDS belief the universe and G-d is governed by physical law. It is a totally different belief system from traditional Christianity.

  451. PresidentPaul! says:

    Which one is dumberg.

    Biden created the “no malarkey express” to compete with the MAGA slogan.

  452. PresidentPaul! says:

    Biden stole the No Malarkey bus from John McCain’s “straight talk” bus.

    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2019-12-07/joe-biden-no-malarkey

  453. PresidentPaul! says:

    https://www.facebook.com/colbertlateshow/photos/a.706301389514615/1978581022286639/?type=3

    The Jalopy driveabout. Minimal fiddle-faddle whistlestop

  454. PresidentPaul! says:

    I bloomberg. duh. 11 percent nation wide?

  455. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Quote Tweet

    The Spectator Index
    @spectatorindex
    · 21m
    BREAKING: Five leaders in Iraq’s pro-Iranian PMF militia have been killed in an airstrike on their convoy north of Baghdad

  456. Chicon says:

    Robbie escaped from the TDS asylum? He needs to return.

  457. jason says:

    I agree with those who don’t trust Sinema.

    I think she is a flaming liberal, always was.

  458. jason says:

    The only Dem I see not voting to convict is Manchin, and I wouldn’t bet on it.

    I still think it will be a party line vote, all Dems voting for conviction, no Rs voting for it.

    I don’t think even scumbag Romney will vote yes.

  459. jason says:

    Romney, Collins and Murkowski might not like Trump, but they know there is no impeachable offense here. It would be a bridge too far even for them.

    I was right in predicting 0 Rs would support it in the House, not even one of the retiring Rs who didn’t have to worry about re-election.

    And that is because there is no case for impeachment. I think the same will happen in the Senate, even if you don’t like Trump, you are not voting for “obstruction of Congress” and “abuse of power”.

  460. NYCmike says:

    “I agree with those who don’t trust Sinema.”

    -Nobody trusts her to vote the way we would want her to vote whenever we want her to.

    Several of us have made note of the fact that she has surprised with some of the votes she has taken.

    That said, they were probably NOT votes that were needed to get the desired outcome for Republicans. Most likely, she looks at the political realities of her position, and votes accordingly when there is no way to defeat the measure being voted on.

  461. jason says:

    This is a woman who protested US troops in a pink tutu.

  462. Phil says:

    Manchin will not vote to convict.

    I can tell you right now the vote will be 46 to convict 54 to acquit. They may as well go ahead and have the vote tomorrow morning.

    Acquittal is a done deal and so is the final vote count.

  463. NYCmike says:

    “Romney, Collins and Murkowski might not like Trump, but they know there is no impeachable offense here. It would be a bridge too far even for them.”

    -“CG”, the resident “lifelong conservative Republican”, would vote to convict.

    What does that say about those 3 and the rest of us?!?!

  464. Phil says:

    Easy. It says none of the rest of us have the sense of morality and ethics that CG possesses.

  465. jason says:

    -“CG”, the resident “lifelong conservative Republican”, would vote to convict.”

    He knows, just like every R congressperson from all wings of the party as well as some Dems, that there are no grounds for impeachment.

    But he thinks the ends justify the means. That is why he has gotten off his high horse and is now endorsing someone for President that said a lot worse things than Trump than whatever he criticizes Trump for saying. It is why he thinks socialism and a liberal SCOTUS and infanticide are all small prices to pay to get rid of Trump.

  466. jason says:

    Hmmm… time for another martini.

  467. Cash Cow TM says:

    Which will happen first?

    1. liberal snowflakes will now be triggered by vanilla ice cream and meatloaf

    2. Iran will ban both vanilla ice cream and meatloaf

    3. Speaker Pelosi will add ice cream and meatloaf consumption to the articles of impeachment

    4. leftist demonstrators in America will target restaurants offering ice cream and meatloaf

    5. Trump will send out a tweet about ice cream and meatloaf
    *************************
    BTW, the first five letters of demonstrators spells DEMONS!

    ALSO…who will be on the ballot in Nov for president besides the unacceptable Trump and the yet to be named unacceptable, crazy Democrat?

  468. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Former Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes criticized the airstrike as well.

    “Trump may have just started a war with no congressional debate. I really hope the worst case scenario doesn’t happen but everything about this situation suggests serious escalation to come,” Rhodes wrote on Twitter.

    Cruz replied and referenced the Iran nuclear deal, which Rhodes helped negotiate in the Obama administration.

    “Perhaps it would have been a better idea to send him $1.7 billion in unmarked bills, in pallets on planes in the dead of night, so he could kill more Americans?” Cruz wrote.

  469. NYCmike says:

    2 things:

    SDC, I referenced Cruz earlier with his response. Spot on, as always!

    Ca$h Cow – are you and your human sponsors still a “leave-it-blank” when it comes to the Presidential vote?

  470. Tina says:

    Cruz destroyed Benji Rhodes.

  471. Bitterlaw says:

    I can neither confirm or deny Wes’ accusations regarding Jason’s manhood. The locker room and showers at the A-hole Clubhouse were closed after Kim’s allegations of harassment.

  472. Bitterlaw says:

    Today is Tim’s birthday. He is the second oldest Hedgehogger after Walt. Of course, there are billions of years between them.

  473. NYCmike says:

    As seen on Instapundit.com:

    “”So far Trump has gotten the Democrats and the media (repetitive) to:

    Defend terrorism
    Defend pedophiles
    Defend rapists
    Defend blackface
    Defend mass murderers
    And
    Openly hate dogs.

    HE’S A FRICKING GENIUS!”

    Very stable, too.”

  474. NYCmike says:

    So for Tim’s birthday, we celebrate him agreeing with the political party which defends all of those items in #493.

    Happy Birthday!

  475. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/RedNationRising/status/1213232870153736192

    -“CG” stood aside in 2016 for this person…..NO, he didn’t vote for her, but thought she was the better option of the 2 people running that year.

  476. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Gold Star dad Kris Hager’s son was killed in combat with Iran. He told @johncardillo his thoughts hearing of @realDonaldTrump’s raid & Soleimani’s death: “When I got confirmation [that] they killed the man who put a bounty on my son’s head, I promise you it was a big difference.”

    https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1213209229089296389

  477. PresidentPaul! says:

    This seems like a neocon trap to me. Wonder which advisers engineered this thing.

  478. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    497. Permit me to feed your paranoia — it was Mitt Romney.

    @SenatorRomney
    Qassem Soleimani was a depraved terrorist who had the blood of hundreds of American servicemen and women on his hands, and who was doubtlessly planning operations to further harm our citizens and allies.

    @SenatorRomney
    We remember and honor the sacrifice of those servicemen & women, and we commend our brave troops & intel officers who carried out this successful mission. At this time of increased tension in the region, the US must take necessary steps to protect our personnel there and beyond.

  479. PresidentPaul! says:

    Rand Paul Warns Against War With Iran Without Congressional Approval

    https://dailycaller.com/2020/01/03/rand-paul-iran-congress-war

    Paul spoke out in a series of tweets Friday morning, saying President Donald Trump “understands that the toppling of Saddam Hussein made Iran stronger” and that though Soleimani and Hussein were both evil men, “the question remains, whether his death will lead to more instability in the Middle East or less.”

  480. lisab says:

    John Bolton Can’t Believe He Left White House Just Before War With Iran

    WASHINGTON, D.C.—According to sources close to the former national security adviser, a teary-eyed John Bolton wept in great pain and anguish that he left the Trump administration just before the war with Iran broke out.

    “Wait — what!?!” he had screamed as he saw that Trump had ordered a missile strike on Qasam Soleimani. “No… no… it can’t be true… it just can’t!”

    “At least we’re still gonna have a war, even if I missed out on my chance to partake,” he said as an aide patted his back to comfort him.

  481. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    499. “the question remains, whether his death will lead to more instability in the Middle East or less.”

    So Soleimani’s forces have already shelled a U.S. military base, killing an American and wounding American soldiers; they attacked the U.S. embassy in an attempt to create another Benghazi; and have contributed to the killing of an estimated 600 U.S. service members — but we can’t fight fight back because “it will lead to more instability in the Middle East not less.” Did you understand how stupid that statement is?

  482. Wes says:

    Trump is taking prudent action against an active and obvious threat. His detractors on this issue are morons.

  483. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Let’s not forget that Rand Paul got beaten up by his neighbor, a retired anesthesiologist who was described as a “slight man” (five feet six and 140 pounds.). He doesn’t sound like someone who would know much about battle plans.

  484. jason says:

    MSNBC:

    “Let’s assume for a minute that he was at the Baghdad airport and deserved this, okay. Let’s just stipulate that. Let’s just say maybe it was the right decision to take him out. But you have in that case right decision, wrong commander in chief.”

    Translation: If Obama killed him, we would approve.

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  485. jason says:

    Maybe Rand Paul can go to Suleiman’s funeral, and take Bunu along with him.

  486. jason says:

    One thing about Rand Paul, he never misses a chance to show what a despicable ass he is.

    When it comes to shilling for Iran and terrorists, even the Dems can’t compete.

  487. jason says:

    I can neither confirm or deny Wes’ accusations regarding Jason’s manhood.”

    Bitter is a good lawyer. He is saving his ammunition for the discovery phase.

  488. jason says:

    I understand good lawyer is an oxymoron.

    “Good” here is not in the virtuous sense, it is in the competent sense.

  489. Bitterlaw says:

    I appreciate jason’s recognition. I try to be as good at lawyering as Jason is in raising llamas. Just in a less creepy way.

  490. PresidentPaul! says:

    If senile Biden actually became president they are going to have to keep an eye on him at all times so he doesn’t go wondering around the neighborhood.

    I just can’t see that guy defeating Trump although he probably has more democrats advantage.

  491. jason says:

    Let’s not forget that Rand Paul got beaten up by his neighbor, a retired anesthesiologist who was described as a “slight man” (five feet six and 140 pounds.)”

    Didn’t he say his neighbor was not a threat?

  492. PresidentPaul! says:

    Dem primary is so boring. I miss the GOP primary.

    Kasich eating!
    https://youtu.be/guPaiTI86UM?t=192

  493. jason says:

    he question remains, whether his death will lead to more instability in the Middle East or less.”

    Let me translate for Rand Paul.

    “If we are nice to terrorists and don’t kill them, they will give up trying to kill Americans and retire as productive contributors to their communities”

  494. jason says:

    Dem primary is so boring. I miss the GOP primary.

    Me too. I enjoyed watching Ron and Rand Paul lose, what, 120 primaries in a row.

  495. jason says:

    HHR is like the Army. You can be whatever you want to be.

    Bunu can pretend he is a Republican and Amoral Scumbag can pretend he is a conservative.

  496. jason says:

    The professor will certainly appreciate the help of the Never Trumper useful idiots in bringing this about:

    “An assistant professor of urban planning at UCLA argues in the far-left magazine The Nation that California is doomed as long as people keep owning homes.

    “If we want to keep cities safe in the face of climate change, we need to seriously question the ideal of private homeownership,” says Kian Goh, who researches urban ecological design, “spatial politics” and social mobilization “in the context of climate change and global urbanization.”

    Goh considers it “news” rather than fevered speculation that “we may only have a dozen years to contain global warming,” as shown by destructive California wildfires in recent months and “precautionary power shutoffs” by utility companies.

    Proposed solutions, including a public takeover of Pacific Gas & Electric, are missing one of the most important factors in climate change-driven destruction, Goh warns: “economic development, aspirations of home ownership, and belief in the importance of private property.”

    To prevent catastrophe, Americans must reconsider their ideas about “success, comfort, home, and family,” particularly the single-family homes that followed in the wake of the Homestead Act of 1862 and federally backed mortgage insurance, the professor argues.”

  497. jason says:

    The far left will wage a war on “success, comfort and family”.

  498. jason says:

    And “economic development” too, sorry.

  499. Tina says:

    Well, when mslsd had the “right” Cic, the obumbler stopped the Israelis from taking him out. You tube now claims (falsely) that they never had actionable intelligence on Salumi.

    ary 4, 2020 at 8:59 am
    MSNBC:

    “Let’s assume for a minute that he was at the Baghdad airport and deserved this, okay. Let’s just stipulate that. Let’s just say maybe it was the right decision to take him out. But you have in that case right decision, wrong commander in chief.”

  500. Tina says:

    Has the socialist son opine? I am sure he is pro mullah.

  501. Tina says:

    More
    Abu Ali observes that it was state-of the-art American drone technology that killed Soleimani & Muhandis, and now it’s American vehicles (a Ford Super Duty & a Chevy Silverado) that carry the bodies. Trump will be pleased: More jobs for American industry. The circle is complete.

  502. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Ca$h Cow – are you and your human sponsors still a “leave-it-blank” when it comes to the Presidential vote?”

    Nay, nay NYC!

    Did not leave it blank in 2016.
    Voted for someone else other than the R and D.

    Personally, I am leaning toward writing in a vote in 2020 for Elsie, the Borden Cow.

    Or maybe the Chic-fil-A “Eat More Chikin advertising Cow.

  503. jason says:

    MSNBC 2015
    Michael Moore 2020

    “Hello fellow Americans. Do you know this man? Did you know he was your enemy? What? Never heard of him? By the end of today you will be trained to hate him. You will be glad Trump had him assassinated. You will do as you are told. Get ready to send your sons &daughters off 2 war”

    “Donald Trump fumbled his way through a lengthy foreign policy interview on Thursday, where it became clear that the presidential candidate’s understanding of the Middle East is limited.

    In an interview with conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt, the Republican frontrunner mixed up the Quds Force (an elite Iranian military unit that operates outside its borders and is accused of complicating U.S. efforts to fight ISIS) with the Kurds (the ethnic group fighting ISIS with U.S. help), and struggles to identify prominent figures in the Middle East.”

  504. jason says:

    Sorry.

    First quote Michael Moore 2020

    Second quote MSNBC 2015

  505. jason says:

    In 2015, MSNBC thought it was important Trump know Suleiman by name.

    In 2020, Moore says nobody ever heard of him.

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  506. jason says:

    Tina I beat you to it on that MSNBC quote in #505.

    jason pats himself on back and sticks tongue out at tina.

  507. John says:

    NFL Wild Card Weekend is upon us and present Americans with a little diversion from what is happening in the real world. Not going to predict any outcomes but instead is looking past this weekend to the potential games next weekend. That said, this is what most of America wants to see happen…with all due apologies to fans of the ‘other’ teams..
    Would love to see another Brady/Mahomes battle especially after the Patriots won the last won in overtime in the playoffs…could be Brady’s last game ever since he has no contract after this year…a Titan/Chiefs game just doesn’t carry the same excitement.
    Would love to see a Brees/Rodgers shootout in cold Lambeau Field…two of the greats going toe to toe. The Vikings just got embarrassed the other week at home and a Kirk Cousins reunion in Green Bay just doesn’t cut it.
    Finally, love to see the third ‘Ali-Frazier’ battle in SF between the 49ers and Seahawks. Seattle gave SF their first loss and came within inches of winning last week. Sorry, but seeing the Philadelphia travel 3,000 miles with Wentz and a bunch of substitute receivers might be somewhat like going to the Roman Colosseum and watching the lions take on the Christians.

  508. mnw says:

    Seeking Alpha:

    Wall Street Breakfast; What Moved Markets This Week:

    “Details were released on the Sino-U.S. “Phase One” trade deal, which is expected to nearly double American exports to China over the next two years. China also said it would crack down on intellectual property theft, forced technology transfers, & deepen access to its financial markets.* Both sides suspended additional tariffs, & the U.S. reduced existing levies.” **

    *”access to [Chinese] financial markets” is already under way. U.S. financial firms are now being permitted to open subsidiaries in China for the first time ever, WITHOUT being required to add Chinese directors selected by the Chinese govt. This is something new.

    ** “reduced” does NOT = “eliminated.” The U.S. retains leverage if China reneges on its commitments, as China did under the last 3 American presidents, who had no such leverage.

  509. Tina says:

    Jason, I was commenting on your post. I guess it did the fully copy over.

    Mslsd is beyond ridiculous.

  510. Tgca says:

    How surprising to see the whiny apologist “MeToo” skank who can’t get an acting job and the 25,000 daily calorie “white people are evil” morbidly obese racist sympathetically embrace the loss of a terrorist who has killed hundreds of Americans and thousands of others over the years. I look forward to Hollywood elite, MSM, and radical lefties attending this murderous scum’s funeral and offering thoughtful and memorable eulogies praising his life and the contributions he made to mankind.

    A murderous terrorist = good
    America = bad

  511. CG says:

    “One thing about Rand Paul, he never misses a chance to show what a despicable ass he is.”

    But when I suggested that Rand Paul was possibly a “bad neighbor”, we heard immense outrage at the potential and the claim that Paul was only (illegally and wrongly) assaulted because he was a good conservative Senator.

  512. Phil says:

    Leftists plan 70 demonstrations across the country this weekend to protest killing of the revered Iranian general.

    LOL. All you can do is shake your head.

  513. Tina says:

    I don’t suggest that pelosi is a bad neighbor.

    She is great in all ways.

    -jebot

  514. jason says:

    It sounds like Trump had the backing (or was even acting out of the recommendation) of senior military advisers.

    “But senior officials said the decision to target Soleimani grew out of a new stream of Iran threats to American embassies, consulates and military personnel in Syria, Iraq and Lebanon. Soleimani had just left Damascus, the Syrian capital, where he was planning an “imminent” attack that could claim hundreds of lives, officials said.

    “We’d be negligent if we didn’t respond,” Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters Friday in his Pentagon office. “The threat of inaction exceeded the threat of action.”

  515. jason says:

    But when I suggested that Rand Paul was possibly a “bad neighbor”, we heard immense outrage at the potential and the claim that Paul was only (illegally and wrongly) assaulted because he was a good conservative Senator.”

    Wow, there is a lot of BS in that load of drivel.

    First, I never ever said Rand Paul was a good conservative senator. I have always disputed he is a conservative let alone a Republican. And I have made clear the sooner he leaves the Senate the better.

    Second, you called Rand Paul a bad neighbor with zero evidence to back it up. Nada. Zilch. Zero. The guy who assaulted him was convicted of assault and sentenced to jail. An appeals court is saying he should be sentenced to even more time. To suggest that somehow the attack was justified because he is a bad neighbor is irresponsible and asinine.

    GFY.

  516. CG says:

    You seem to be taking the side of the neighbor and his assault on Paul on this thread.

  517. jason says:

    Says the guy who suggests the “bad neighbor” brought the attack on himself?

    LOL

  518. jason says:

    You seem to be taking the side of the neighbor and his assault on Paul on this thread.”

    Show me where I took the side of the neighbor and his assault on this thread.

    This should be good.

  519. CG says:

    You talked about the neighbor being a little slightly built guy (as if Paul was not blindsided) and joked about Paul not seeing the neighbor as a threat.

    There was zero evidence presented in court that Paul was attacked for political reasons, as you claimed he was.

    Maybe the neighbor was anti-Iran?

  520. jason says:

    I never liked McChrystal, and he certainly no Trump supporter, but I give him credit for saying the right thing:

    “However the lawyers rationalized it, McChrystal, who passed on taking the shot at Soleimani 13 years ago, said Trump was right to take it now. “The targeting was appropriate given Soleimani’s very public role in orchestrating Iranian attacks on the U.S. and our allies,” he said in an email.

  521. jason says:

    You talked about the neighbor being a little slightly built guy (as if Paul was not blindsided) and joked about Paul not seeing the neighbor as a threat.”

    Huh, that wasn’t me.

    You can apologize any time.

  522. jason says:

    The passage was in quotes, SDC wrote it, not me.

  523. CG says:

    Your handle was stolen in #512?

  524. jason says:

    The “Paul not seeing the neighbor as a threat” referred to the fact he doesn’t see a nuclear Iran as a threat, nothing to do with “taking the side of the neighbor”.

    Have another cup of coffee.

  525. jason says:

    Did you see the quotation mark?

  526. CG says:

    The post in 512 is yours. You did not indicate a response or disagreement with anyone.

  527. jason says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    January 4, 2020 at 6:20 am

    Let’s not forget that Rand Paul got beaten up by his neighbor, a retired anesthesiologist who was described as a “slight man” (five feet six and 140 pounds.). He doesn’t sound like someone who would know much about battle plans.”

    I copied and pasted from here.

  528. CG says:

    Did you forget to start it off in quotes? If so, that was your error, just like your insistence via lazy reading that Quincy Jones claimed that a four year old Michael Jackson killed JFK.

  529. jason says:

    No, I cut and pasted and there is a quotation mark.

    Keep digging.

  530. CG says:

    You should have put quotes in front of it then to make sure it was clear you were responding in disagreement to something.

    I just remember you as the guy who was mad that Ruth Bader Ginsburg had a will to live.

  531. jason says:

    Did you forget it ended in quotes?

    If so, will you admit you made a mistake?

    I will own up to missing the the opening quote when I cut and pasted.

  532. CG says:

    Post # 512 does not begin with quotation marks.

    Do you see them on your screen? If so, consult your physician.

  533. jason says:

    I just remember you as the guy who was mad that Ruth Bader Ginsburg had a will to live.”

    I will add bad memory to your list of faults.

  534. CG says:

    If that is a response, you are agreeing that Paul was in the wrong for being assaulted by a small man.

    Be careful if you ever run into MD at a urinal!

  535. jason says:

    “Post # 512 does not begin with quotation marks.”

    True, but they end with them, right.

  536. CG says:

    The only quote was about the description of the many physically. I assumed you got that from someone and did not personally measure him. But the post starts off as if it is your own words, clearly.

    And whether they are or nor, you agreed with the premise that Paul was somehow at fault for his assault.

  537. jason says:

    Corey just made up a bunch of lies about what I said.

    To justify it, he comes up with the fact I left out quotation marks at the beginning of the quote, but not at the end, so he knows I was quoting.

    Corey has a lot of trouble admitting he is wrong.

    But we knew that.

  538. jason says:

    But the post starts off as if it is your own words, clearly.”

    Huh, no.

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    January 4, 2020 at 6:20 am

    Let’s not forget that Rand Paul got beaten up by his neighbor, a retired anesthesiologist who was described as a “slight man” (five feet six and 140 pounds.). He doesn’t sound like someone who would know much about battle plans.”

    jason:ason says:
    January 4, 2020 at 9:42 am

    Let’s not forget that Rand Paul got beaten up by his neighbor, a retired anesthesiologist who was described as a “slight man” (five feet six and 140 pounds.)”

    What is clear is that I cut and pasted SDC’s comment.

  539. CG says:

    You forgot the quotes and are just embarrassed by it not. Even so, you deserve criticism for agreeing with the concept that a “slight” man can blindside someone and cause injury and the person injured is at fault.

    Paul may or may not be a bad neighbor. He is often a bad Senator. He still did not deserve to be assaulted. There is no evidence that he was attacked for any political reason.

    The humor is you defended him so much in an earlier discussion and now because you are mad that he had a disagreement with Trump (and I disagree with Paul too),you feel free to call him any name in the book and mock his assault.

  540. CG says:

    You forgot the quotes. Don’t a.ssume that I read all of SDC’s posts.

    Still, you agreed with it. Your cruelty on this matter is not his fault.

  541. lisab says:

    Don’t a.ssume that I read all of SDC’s posts.

    ——————

    so corey admits that it was his fault he misunderstood what jason wrote

  542. Cash Cow TM says:

    CG

    Quit being an asshat over a missing quotation mark.

  543. Bitterlaw says:

    I think we already have a strong contender for dumbest argument of 2020.

  544. Victrc says:

    Agree with 564 and 565. CG, seriously, I know you like to antagonize, but you’re just being pedantic and a bit of (insert three letter word) here.

    Returning to the point. Liberals (and Never trumpers) have lost it now. One confronted me today telling me I should go “sign up” if I’m so gun ho for war. Egg on their face when I informed them I served and fought for this country, and that I bet a majority of the men in line this morning at Marine and Army recruiters were Trump supporters like two nephews who enlisted in the last 30 days.

  545. Tina says:

    4 replies 5 retweets 14 likes
    Reply 4 Retweet 5 Like 14

    M.Joseph Sheppard
    ?

    @SHEPMJS
    3h3 hours ago
    More
    Post Impeachment Trump Approval Poll update

    Harvard University 47% Registered Voters (Economy 60%)
    Rasmussen 50% Likely Voters

    RCP Aggregate 45.3% all polls. Reached/breached only twice prior 9/24/19 and 2/21/2017

  546. jason says:

    Corey should have said “jason, sorry I thought it was your post, you left out the opening quote and I missed the closing one”.

    So easy.

    Instead he has to make an ass out of himself and write 10 posts to try to justify his mistake.

  547. mRviTO says:

    Slotkin has let the cat and a litter of kittens out of the bag.

    https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/politics/2020/01/03/michigan-rep-slotkin-ex-cia-analyst-reacts-to-death-of-irans-soleimani/

    Two prior administrations let Soleimani destabilize the region and keep killing Americans, allies, and innocent Muslims because they thought the risk was too great.

    At least the air is cleared.

  548. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    569. A very level-headed analysis by Slotkin of past policy. There was also an excellent comment to the article:

    “Reply to @John Messmer: based on what is stated here she did a lot of watching while people died.”

  549. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    570. How do you tell the Cardillo family that his son’s murderer would not be punished because government bureaucrats at their desk wanted to feel safe? Just let the soldiers continue to die.

    Gold Star dad Kris Hager’s son was killed in combat with Iran. He told @johncardillo his thoughts hearing of @realDonaldTrump’s raid & Soleimani’s death: “When I got confirmation [that] they killed the man who put a bounty on my son’s head, I promise you it was a big difference.”

    https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1213209229089296389

  550. mRviTO says:

    Sdc…

    The administrations that brought you the Iraq War, the Syrian war, and ISIS were worried about retaliation and being drawn into a protracted war.

  551. mRviTO says:

    and Benghazi….

  552. lisab says:

    so my brother-in-law just passed away. he lived a difficult life, divorce, alcohol, could not hold a job, etc. he had a stroke.

    so my hubby goes, i stay home because school has started, we can’t take the kids out for a week, etc. not a popular decision, but whatever,

    he died destitute, and this is naturally embarrassing to the family because they have lived in a small rural community all their lives and people want to come visit, have a big service etc. my hubby’s other brother and his wife are making a lot of the arrangements because they still live nearby, but they don’t have a lot of money. my hubby wants to pay for it. ok … i get it. they have a reputation, hey, when my mother died we had a very nice ceremony … i do get it.

    sooooooooo, since they have some money for the essentials, they decide to move the reception to a hotel/restaurant, because it is nicer than their house and they have 100 people coming.

    so basically i am out the cost of a new car, and just have to be supportive.

  553. lisab says:

    Returning to the point. Liberals (and Never trumpers) have lost it now.
    ————-

    not liberals, democrats and “progressives”/leftists

    although suggesting a person in favour of a war should serve in it is a completely valid argument

    a.) we are not at war
    b.) obama was drone happy and the dems never said a word about it
    c.) a classical liberal is NOT in favour of higher taxes, higher government controls, less freedom of speech, e.g. making so-called “hate speech” illegal, a government that bases laws on race or ethnicity or gender etc.

    basically we want the government to provide a safety net of food, clothes, shelter and basic medical care for everyone, break up monopolies and oligopolies, have a few regulations on things like food safety and pollution, provide
    emergency services and a strong enough military to keep us free,and otherwise leave the citizens alone to go about their lives

  554. lisab says:

    the thing about the iranian general is …

    he was a very bad guy

    and

    not in iran.

    if the top iranian general was in iran, sleeping in his house and we blew it up, i can see iran being upset, but he was out causing trouble

  555. Tgca says:

    Anyone that is tackled to the ground can suffer broken ribs, sprains, or other serious I nternal injuries whether the attacker is 4”11 inches and weighs 90 pounds or 6’4 and weighs 230 pounds. It depends on the speed of the attacker, the position the attacked person is standing, where they are hit, how they hit the surface, and whether any surface elements (rock or stair) make contact with them forcefully.

    To suggest that somehow because the attacker was small framed shows ignorance of physics, especially velocity and force. A bullet can weigh a few ounces and drop a person instantly.

    Also, an unprovoked physical attack like this suggests mental instability. Who the F*ck tackles someone to the ground over landscaping debri disagreements? The attacker had to pay out nearly $600K. Good! The dirtbag should have paid $1M and gotten 2 years in prison.

  556. Tgca says:

    576

    …and don’t forget he was one ugly mofo too. It was totally justified me thinks.

  557. lisab says:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    Iran is talking very boldly about targeting certain USA assets as revenge for our ridding the world of their terrorist leader who had just killed an American, & badly wounded many others, not to mention all of the people he had killed over his lifetime, including recently….

    ….hundreds of Iranian protesters. He was already attacking our Embassy, and preparing for additional hits in other locations. Iran has been nothing but problems for many years. Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have…..

    ….targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!

  558. Tina says:

    72 virgins

    52 targets.

  559. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab has children? Who knew?

  560. Tgca says:

    581

    Are they gaybies?

  561. Birthday says:

    Suck it, Patriots. Brady is the greatest QB ever but not tonight.

  562. Phil says:

    Soleimani: Are you going to send us pallets of cash like Obama did?

    Trump: Yeah, go wait at the airport.

  563. lisab says:

    Soleimani
    —————–

    some people did something

  564. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    As could be expected, the Kurds are affirming their partnership with the U.S., and our wonderful NATO ally Erdogan is consoling Turkey, and are now attempting to walk back from referring to Soleimani as a “martyr.”

    “Pompeo spoke to Kurdistan Region Prime Minister Masrour Barzani late on Friday to discuss the matter “I thanked him for his steadfast partnership. We agreed on the need for continued, close cooperation,” the diplomat said on Twitter. Barzani added via Twitter that he and Pompeo “agreed on the importance of deescalating tensions in Iraq through restraint and dialogue.””

    * * *
    “A Turkish official said on Sunday that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdo?an did not call slain Iranian General Qassem Soleimani a martyr during a phone call with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, TRT World reported.
    “Erdo?an offered condolences to Rouhani over military commander Qasem Soleimani’s assassination due to his official post and did not use ‘martyr’ to describe him,” TRT World said, citing an unnamed Turkish official.

    During his phone call with Rouhani, Erdo?an expressed his regret for the loss of Soleimani and calling him a martyr, according to the Russian news agency RT.

    “Turkey’s President Recep Tayyip Erdo?an, in a phone conversation with Iranian President Hassan Rouhani, said: “The absence of martyr Soleimani is deeply upsetting. Iranian people, I am aware of your and Ali Khamenei’s anger,” Iranian Embassy in Turkey also tweeted on Saturday.”

    * * *
    However, a lot of the Turkish press is celebrating the death of Soleimani:
    Writer Bülent ?ahin Erde?er wrote: “Qassem Soleimani, the butcher of Syria, was killed. A wry smile spread across my face when I heard the news. I remembered our children whom he had slaughtered in Houla, Tireymse, Bayda, and Aleppo. I wish we could have judged you for the crimes you committed against humanity. May he be in lots of fire [in h–l].

  565. jason says:

    The Cheatriots lose at home to the Titans.

    lisab has kids?

    Maybe pets that go to dog training? Or real kids?

  566. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump got hoodwinked.

  567. jason says:

    Bunu is mourning the death of his terrorist friends?

  568. Wobbles says:

    I have an important announcement.

    1) Trump’s approval rating just surpassed 45% a RCP, which as you know I have claimed to be the “gold standard”.

    2) I am on record as saying Trump would be re-elected if he got to 45%.

    So we are going to move some goalposts here, I hope everyone understands why it is necessary.

    1) RCP is no longer the gold standard, these things are dynamic and fluid. We may have to start skewing these polls to show the true feelings of the American people, who universally hate Trump.

    2) 45% is passé. These things are dynamic and fluid, so the new threshold is 50%.

    I apologize for any inconvenience. Thank you.

  569. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    I agree with Charlie Kirk on this one. It would be marvelous to see corruption exposed at the highest levels of government and industry in the Western World!

    Charlie Kirk
    ?

    Did you know:

    Iran’s Foreign Minister threatened to expose Western diplomats who took bribes to create the Iran Nuclear Deal

    RT if this is the one threat they should follow through on!

  570. jason says:

    Trump just announced he will not bomb anyone who reveals who took bribes.

  571. jason says:

    Look, if any Dems took bribes it was not for their own personal enrichment, it was to save the world.

    Sometimes these sacrifices have to be made. And all the money was donated to Greta Thunberg’s Displaced Airline Pilot Fund when the socialists ban air travel, so it was for a good cause.

  572. Tina says:

    Clean up aisle 5.

    Florian ?
    @BetaODork
    ·
    16h
    A young man tells Joe Biden that his father lost his health insurance plan and the cost doubled, even though Obama promised insurances will be cheaper. He asks if Joe was lying or if he didn’t understand Obamacare when he supported it.

    Joe’s answer: “No one understood Obamacare”

  573. Tina says:

    I am not sure Trump did not want this outcome.

    Farnaz Fassihi
    @farnazfassihi
    ·
    1h
    BREAKING; #Iraq parliament votes to expel US military from Iraq.
    PM Abdul Mahdi: “It’s time for American troops to leave.”
    Wow.

  574. Tina says:

    Well important clarification here on Iraq:

    ssan Hassan
    @hxhassan
    · 43m
    Important clarification from @hushamalhashimi for media.

    The parliament voted on a decision to end #Iraq’s membership in the international coalition to combat ISIS, nothing in the proposal about the expulsion of foreign forces or about the 2008 agreement with the US.

  575. mRviTO says:

    Brit Hume
    @brithume
    ·
    6h
    Perfect.

    Quote Tweet

    The Babylon Bee
    @TheBabylonBee
    · 23h
    Opinion: Trump Is Doing The Right Thing, But He’s Doing It As Trump, Which Means It’s Still Bad https://buff.ly/36jR8MC

  576. lisab says:

    Trump Reminds Everyone He Hasn’t Been Impeached All Decade

  577. lisab says:

    CNN: ‘Trump Voter Shoots Mentally Ill Man In Church’

  578. lisab says:

    a (now retracted) tweet, NBC conflates a man wielding a machete to iniscriminantly murder Jews with “civic sparring”.

  579. lisab says:

    Castro’s Campaign Fails As Democrats Realize His First Name Isn’t Fidel

  580. jason says:

    Trump should sign all orders as Obama.

    MSM and Amoral Scumbags will climb all over themselves to declare them the best decisions since Walt was born.

  581. jason says:

    Joe’s answer: “No one understood Obamacare”

    Worrisome. If one of the Dems starts telling the truth it could add a new dynamic to the race.

  582. jason says:

    Castro’s Campaign Fails As Democrats Realize His First Name Isn’t Fidel”

    Proud Obamacommunist crushed.

  583. Tgca says:

    If these Dem morons in Congress believe Trump has broken the law and authorized assassinations, then I suggest we arrest him and try him along with Obama who authorized drone attacks killings our enemies as well. Send both them to prison.

    Speak about traitors, the Squad, Pelosi, the radical Dems, and the MSM are protesting the death of a guy responsible for the death of American soldiers and civilians for more than a decade. Their response is yeah, so what, he killed hundreds of Americans, but Trump is evil.

    What’s next? Criticizing America for killing Germans and Japanese during WWII?

  584. lisab says:

    Sarah Sanders Alleges Tape Exists Of Trump Being Polite And Respectful To Someone

    WASHINGTON, D.C.—In a startling allegation, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders says she has knowledge of a tape in which President Trump can be heard very clearly speaking in a polite and respectful tone to another individual. “In it, he’s respectful and coherent and sounds genuinely interested in the other person,” Sanders explained. “I haven’t heard it myself, but I know from multiple sources it exists.”

  585. lisab says:

    then I suggest we arrest him and try him along with Obama who authorized drone attacks killings our enemies as well.
    ———-

    obama had the full support of the democrats in congress

  586. Florida Guy says:

    This is an amazing poll. It really is the body temperature of the swing states. It means Trump is more popular than people think, as he is now the incumbent.

    Great economy, and standing strong against terrorism. Like him or not, only Biden poses a threat. This will be a dogfight of an election but Trump could pick up VA, Minn., Colo., and more. It’s been a while since a Reagan-Nixon-LBJ type blowout. Could this be one?

  587. lisab says:

    nah … bitterlaw personally knows 17 suburban housewives that voted against hillary, that will now vote against trump

    women were far more likely to vote for trump in 2016 than they will be in 2020, blacks and hispanics too

  588. jason says:

    Saints cost me money this year.

  589. jason says:

    I will be happy if Trump loses the popular vote by 4 million votes and gets 270 EC votes. Well maybe like 273 so he can afford a couple faithless electors.

  590. Big Joe says:

    Happy New Year everyone.

    As we are now in an election year, my wish is that pollsters will focus on state polls instead of national polls. These are supposed to be professional outfits, the one lesson learned from 2016 was the lack of swing state polls. Thank you.

    Big Joe

  591. jason says:

    Thanks Big Joe, a Happy New Year to you too.

    I imagine there will be more state polls if and when it looks like there is a solid Dem front runner.

  592. jason says:

    Kaepernick says attack on Suleiman was a racist attack against brown people.

  593. jason says:

    Iran is offering 80 million dollars for Trump’s head.

    There must be a good joke here somewhere but I can’t come up with it.

    Feel free to give it a shot.

  594. Big Joe says:

    Happy New Year Jason. I hope you are right. I realized as I posted my comment that this post from Dave actually contains the very swing state polling that I said was lacking.

    Democrats appear to be prioritizing electability so seeing swing state GE polls prior/during the nomination period will be useful. Polls such as these FL and VA polls are what’s keeping Grampa Joe in the game.

    Big Joe

  595. Bitterlaw says:

    Lisab – Zzzzzzz. I said I know women who did not vote for President in 2016 who will vote for the Dem in 2020.

  596. Tgca says:

    I don’t know anyone who voted for Trump in 2016 that plans to vote for the Dem nominee in 2020. Therefore, I assume Trump will win in a landslide because I know lotsa people. Possibly he gets 700+ EV is my guess.

  597. mRviTO says:

    “Iran is offering 80 million dollars for Trump’s head.”

    It’s left over from Obama’s pallet of cash… the mastermind of how to spend the rest of it on terror was just killed.

  598. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    619. “Iran is offering 80 million dollars for Trump’s head.”

    Trump will probably counter that it is worth at least 120 million.

  599. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Should point out if this was 20 years ago, a crisis in the Mideast would have threatened our oil supply and damaged our economy. Now we are an exporter of oil, and the price of oil rising may actually be an incentive to produce more oil and create additional jobs.

    Of course the Democrats want to ban fracking in the U.S., which again could make use dependent on Mideast oil:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJ5-qyHoSk8&feature=youtu.be

  600. jason says:

    Well, considering where they were, the Eagles exceeded expectations by winning the division and making the playoffs.

  601. jason says:

    Well, according to Bitter, some people in his area are so wealthy they can afford to vote against their own interests because they don’t like Trump.

    In my area, a lot of people who don’t like Trump will probably vote for him because they can’t afford not to.

    Maybe it will be a wash.

  602. Bitterlaw says:

    Seahawks’ player Clooney will probably get a heavy fine for the hit on Wentz. He will gladly pay it as he heads to Green Bay for the next round.

  603. Bitterlaw says:

    Most of the Democrats in my town vote against their own economic self interest and do it gladly.

  604. victrc says:

    Bitter. He deserved to be tossed from the game. That was intentional use of the crown of the helmet, which merits an automatic disqualification. how the %#%$ did the refs not review that.

  605. gameboy says:

    I live in the same area as that bitter guy. I know of many who sat out in 2016 who will gladly pull the lever for Trump in 2020, and others who like Bitter reluctantly with for Trump in 2016 and are now fully on board with Trump in 2020. I do not know of any Trumpers who will pull the lever for any Dem. In fact I don’t sense any enthusiasm whatsoever among the democrats I know for any of their candidates. The only things that will tank Trump down come November will be an economy tanking or stock market crash.

  606. Phil says:

    80 million?

    My guess is the left in this country would be willing to go a bit higher, and I think the Never Trumpers would go even higher than that.

  607. PresidentPaul! says:

    Voting the troops out of iraq is the best thing about this. Even though trump refuses to move them it will help get them out faster long term.

  608. Bitterlaw says:

    Vic – I agree. The refs missed some other calls but they always do. On the other hand, the Eagles were in the red zone on their last 2 possessions and got no points. Going on 4th down is great when it works. It sucks when it does not.

    Considering how many injuries the Eagles has, it was probably to be expected that another injury finally got them.

  609. BayernFan says:

    Ricky Gervais just delivered a brutal smackdown of Hollywood at the Golden Globes.

    “You’ve spent less time in school than Greta Thunberg”!!

    lolololol

  610. Bitterlaw says:

    BF- He also called them out as hypocrites. He said that if ISIS started a network, most entertainers would call their agents and try to get a show.

  611. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #631 & 632
    The best opening statement at an Awards Show that I can remember. Ricky Garvais was on fire about Hollywood’s hypocrisy and condescension toward the viewing public. Gervais’ statement was as good as it gets if you enjoy political incorrectness!
    It’s must see TV!

  612. mRvitTO says:

    I’m really starting to hate gold.

  613. Bitterlaw says:

    Gervais is a lib but rips everybody. In some ways, Bill Maher is similar. He can rip libs in a hilarious way but Trump really pushed him over the edge. (I know his hateful views will get him no slack but he can be funny).

  614. PresidentPaul! says:

    Growing list of consequences so far:

    1)Iraq votes out US troops so it can become a Iranian proxy state (and if Iranian sanctions apply to Iraq then it could alternatively become an ISIS state)

    2)Iran Announces Will No Longer Abide By Nuclear Deal ending an accord that blocked Tehran from having enough material to build an atomic weapon.

  615. PresidentPaul! says:

    Rand should sponsor a bill to block any war or hostilities towards Iran.

  616. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump losing track of who his friends are

    Neocon Pundit Wishes Cancer on Trump, Ron Paul, and Pat Buchanan

    Neocon Pundit Wishes Cancer on Trump, Ron Paul, and Pat Buchanan | 30 Dec 2019 | Like clockwork, a neoconservative writer resorts to smear tactics to sully right wing figures who dare challenge the status quo. Shay Khatiri, a writer for the neocon outlet the Bulwark and a fan of establishment darling [Deep State dirt-bag] Nikki Haley, recently tweeted about Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, and Donald Trump and how there is “no justice in this world” because they’re alive and well. He specifically tweeted, “John McCain, Charles Krauthammer, and now John Lewis get cancer. Ron Paul, Pat Buchanan, and Donald Trump are healthy. There is no justice in this world.”

  617. VictrC says:

    Bunu you truly are a scu^bag. Paulbots like you make liberals look less slimy because Paulbots are truly the dregs of society. Stop using the moniker conservative to describe you and followers of the Pauls, there is absolutely nothing even remotely related to the conservative movement that you resemble.

  618. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “2)Iran Announces Will No Longer Abide By Nuclear Deal ending an accord that blocked Tehran from having enough material to build an atomic weapon.”

    You really think Iran was abiding by this accord? You trust their lies? That takes a special kind of stupid.

  619. jason says:

    Bunu, GFY. And take Rand Paul with you.

  620. jason says:

    I don’t wish cancer on anybody.

    Pat Buchanan is a flaming anti-semite.

    Both can be true.

  621. jason says:

    Sorry, I don’t agree that Clooney should be ejected, unless we want to make the NFL even more a game of pussies that it already has become.

    Wentz likes to push the envelope when running and his coach is ok with it. That is fine with me but it entails some risk. Same with going for it on 4th down all the time, when it doesn’t work you can’t whine. Risk/reward.

    That hit would have certainly been ok for 98 of the last 100 years of the NFL. Plus, it is just as likely Wentz was hurt by slamming his head in the ground as the helmet to helmet contact.

    Here is the explanation by the ref at the game.

    A referee from the Seattle Seahawks’ 17-9 NFC wild-card victory over the Philadelphia Eagles explained why Jadeveon Clowney avoided a penalty for a helmet-to-helmet hit on Carson Wentz.

    “He was a runner, and he did not give himself up,” NFL referee Shawn Smith said of Wentz, per the Philadelphia Inquirer’s Jeff McLane. “We saw incidental helmet contact, and in our judgement, we didn’t rule that to be a foul.”

    I agree with that. Clooney might be fined because of pressure on the league. But ejected? Let’s get real.

    IMO, a rushing QB can be treated just like an running back.

  622. jason says:

    Some of the talking heads at ESPN agree with me.

    “Ryan Clark says Seattle Seahawks DE Jadeveon Clowney’s hit on Philadelphia Eagles QB Carson Wentz should not be considered a dirty hit as Wentz was not sliding. John Fox also does not think the hit was made with intent to injure Wentz, however he expects Clowney to be fined.”

    However, I do agree with one of the comments:

    “It it was Tom Brady, there would have been more flags than at 4th of July”

  623. The Express newspaper in the U.K. polled its readers regarding whether they supported Trump’s decision to assassinate Soleimani. 10,034 responded:

    72% Agreed with Trump’s action
    19% Disagreed with Trump’s action
    9% clicked the “don’t know” option

  624. PresidentPaul! says:

    As a general rule if you want to understand what your state is doing and the general direction of things just look at California for the general idea and know that they are just 5 or 6 years ahead of you so you know what to expect.

  625. Boonu says:

    Rand should sponsor a bill to block any war or hostilities towards Iran.”

    Not only that, he should propose a bill where we would donate some our nuclear weapons to Iran so they don’t have to go through the trouble of developing their own. Because, as Rand says, a nuclear Iran is not a threat.

  626. jason says:

    Trump losing track of who his friends are”

    Ron Paul is a friend of Trump’s?

    Who knew?

    “Ron Paul’s talons were out over the weekend, slamming the decision to let billionaire mogul Donald Trump moderate the Newsmax debate in Iowa.

    Trump’s presence would create an “unwanted circus-like atmosphere,” Paul said in a biting press release that announced his intention to skip the December 27 debate. “The selection of a reality television personality to host a presidential debate that voters nationwide will be watching is beneath the office of the Presidency and flies in the face of that office’s history and dignity,” Paul said in the statement.

    Paul also appeared on CNN’s State of the Union Sunday where he called Trump’s new role as Republican kingmaker into question. “I don’t quite understand it,” Paul said, according to the Daily Caller. “I don’t understand the marching to his office. I mean I didn’t know that he had an ability to lay on hands, you know, and anoint people.”

    Trump fired back at Paul on Fox and Friends Monday morning. “He’s cutesy, he’s got some nice little slogans, but he’s not going anywhere,” Trump said.”

    Trump was sure right about Ron Paul not going anywhere.

  627. jason says:

    FOX NEWS CHRIS WALLACE:

    “Some analysts suggest that the impeachment of President Trump has emboldened enemies like Iran and North Korea – is this president is more vulnerable because of the impeachment effort?”

    POMPEO:

    “You should ask Mr. Soleimani.”

  628. Tina says:

    Iman of peace responds via twitter to Michael Moore:

    Imam of Peace / Pray for Peace… Retweeted

    Imam of Peace / Pray for Peace…
    ?
    Verified account

    @Imamofpeace
    14h14 hours ago
    More
    Imam of Peace / Pray for Peace… Retweeted Michael Moore
    You’ve just reached out to a terrorist dictator and chief financier of the largest network of Jihadists on this planet; in addition to violating the Logan Act. The part we find hilarious is that you actually think he will respond to you. That donkey thinks he’s God’s deputy on ?

    ted

    Imam of Peace / Pray for Peace…
    ?
    Verified account

    @Imamofpeace
    14h14 hours ago
    More
    Imam of Peace / Pray for Peace… Retweeted Michael Moore
    Also, Einstein, I just listened to the beginning of your message to Ayatollah Khamenai. You literally have music playing at the start of the podcast. The Ayatollah has a Fatwa against Music of all sorts. No one in the regime will even open it. A total and absolute fail.

    Imam of Peace / Pray for Peace…
    ?
    Verified account

    @Imamofpeace
    14h14 hours ago
    More
    Imam of Peace / Pray for Peace… Retweeted Michael Moore
    Also, you address your message to Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran. That guy died on the 3rd of June 1989. Your whole tweet and message is a mess from start to finish. The current Ayatollah is Khamenei and he has a Fatwa against Music—which you play for him at the start. What a fail…

  629. mnw says:

    Gold has always been an excellent hedge against capital gains.

    No wonder it’s a favorite of idiot trolls. Enjoy that cat food when you retire, fellas.

  630. Wes says:

    PresidentPaul! says:
    January 5, 2020 at 11:26 pm
    Rand should sponsor a bill to block any war or hostilities towards Iran.

    Even the Democrats probably wouldn’t agree with this, and the Senate would probably defeat it 99-1.

  631. Wes says:

    L. Ron Paul is Trump’s friend the same way James Caan was Arnold Schwarzenegger’s friend in Eraser.

  632. jason says:

    No wonder it’s a favorite of idiot trolls. Enjoy that cat food when you retire, fellas.”

    Come the zombie apocalypse cat food will be worth more than gold.

  633. jason says:

    and the Senate would probably defeat it 99-1″

    Rand Paul: who are you calling 1?

  634. Waingro says:

    Jesse Rodriguez
    ?
    Verified account

    @JesseRodriguez
    Follow Follow @JesseRodriguez
    More
    NBC NEWS EXCLUSIVE: John Bolton willing to testify in Trump’s Senate impeachment trial, if subpoenaed — @carolelee breaking on @MSNBC now

  635. VictrC says:

    What does that mean for Trump? Does Bolton hold a grudge and will testify something negative?

  636. jason says:

    I always thought Bolton was a loose cannon, so I was not crazy about Trump appointing him to a position in the WH. Of course, I said the same about Giuliani.

    It would be funny if the MSM was now a cheerleader for Bolton, after treating him as a warmongering nutcase for years.

  637. NYCmike says:

    “What does that mean for Trump? Does Bolton hold a grudge and will testify something negative?”

    -I would say “NAY”.

    I think Bolton would LOVE the chance to stick it to Democrats/media whenever he can. They have treated him like cr*p over the years.

  638. jason says:

    I am not sure why the Dems think Bolton and Mulvaney are on their side.

    Bolton has policy differences with Trump. But ideologically he is about as far away from Adam Schiff and Chuck Schumer as you can get.

    None of the people who testified in the House mentioned Bolton so I am not even sure what, if any, his role was.

  639. NYCmike says:

    Once again…..jason riding shotgun…….you better have brought your EZ-Pass this time, fella!

  640. NYCmike says:

    In regard to the Clowney-Wentz “tackle” – just saw it for the first time at real speed and in slo-mo – that should have been called a penalty – if Wentz wasn’t there, and Clowney is falling to the ground, does he put his arms out to protect himself, or does he allow his head to hit first and take the brunt of the fall?

  641. jason says:

    Once again…..jason riding shotgun……”

    The fact you think we said the same thing there is a measure of your stupidity.

  642. NYCmike says:

    The fact that you don’t think we said the same thing shows yours.

  643. NYCmike says:

    Or, it just shows how much of an A-Hole you are like MD – all hot air in a balloon, easily punctured with a little pinprick.

  644. jason says:

    Or, it just shows how much of an A-Hole you are like MD – all hot air in a balloon, easily punctured with a little pinprick.”

    Most a-holes are not easily punctured by a little pin prick.

  645. Tina says:

    I am triggered,

    The Reckoning ? Retweeted

    Breaking911
    @Breaking911
    ·
    1h
    BREAKING: US army tells Iraq it is preparing to “move out” – AFP

  646. jason says:

    In regard to the Clowney-Wentz “tackle” – just saw it for the first time at real speed and in slo-mo – that should have been called a penalty”

    No shotgun here. Clowney probably doesn’t even know where Wentz’s head is when they collided he is completely turned around. The blow is glancing rather than direct and most of the impact on Wentz seems to be hitting the ground.

  647. jason says:

    Pulling out of Iraq would be a mistake. The resolution was non-binding and for internal consumption.

    Using it to justify a pull out would be asinine.

  648. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/election/yang-gang-fails-basic-competency-test-will-not-appear-on-ohio-ballot/

    -“CG” could always say that he thought the petition was for Joe Walsh.

  649. NYCmike says:

    “Clowney probably doesn’t even know where Wentz’s head is when they collided he is completely turned around.”

    -Exactly, that’s what happens when you lead with your helmet…..your eyes lose the target.

  650. Tina says:

    I just saw that play for the first time tool. It does appear that Clowney speared him intentionally. Clearly led with head and targeted the qb.

    Should have been a penalty with ejection.

  651. NYCmike says:

    Maybe Clowney always dives towards the ground even without a helmet on……that would explain things in regard to jason as well…..

  652. Tina says:

    Nothing new with Bolton.

    He said that he would testify during the house Soviet style hearing, They refused to call him.

  653. Wes says:

    I know Bitter thinks only football players have a right to speak out on politics while fans should just shut up and say nothing, but I’m going to say this:

    Colin Kaepernick is a know-nothing anti-American Bastard.

    That is all.

  654. lisab says:

    gold vs cat food
    ——-

    actually gold is not a horrible investment, it certainly is not where you should invest the bulk of your money, but it has a somewhat low positive correlation with stocks, which makes it a somewhat useful investment. also, it is 100% liquid for any amount up to literally metric tons, so you can dump it with a phone call.

    (unlike silver or copper where you may not be able to find a buyer at industrial levels, gold has a very active market, i.e. people wont buy a ton of copper at market unless they have a use for it)

    sooooooooo, if you like coin collecting for example, investing 1 or 2% in gold coins is not a huge mistake.

  655. jason says:

    Thankfully neither NYC or Tina are NFL referees.

    Here was referee Shawn Smith’s explanation:

    “He was a runner and he did not give himself up. We saw incidental helmet contact, and in our judgement, we didn’t rule that to be a foul.”

  656. jason says:

    The NFL is completely pussified now, might as well just play touch football.

    So I certainly could see a penalty being called on the play, I don’t agree with a lot of the personal foul calls anyway.

    But ejection? Like I said that play was legal for 98 years out of a 100 in the NFL.

  657. jason says:

    Here is what NYC thought was “saying the same thing”.

    NYC:
    I think Bolton would LOVE the chance to stick it to Democrats/media whenever he can. They have treated him like cr*p over the years.

    jason:
    I am not sure why the Dems think Bolton and Mulvaney are on their side.

    Bolton has policy differences with Trump. But ideologically he is about as far away from Adam Schiff and Chuck Schumer as you can get.

    None of the people who testified in the House mentioned Bolton so I am not even sure what, if any, his role was.”

    First, I had not even read NYC’s post when I wrote mine.

    Second this is like comparing Don King to Albert Einstein because both had wispy white hair.

    (full disclosure, in this case NYC is Don King, I am Albert Einstein)

  658. NYCmike says:

    “The NFL is completely pussified now, might as well just play touch football.”

    -If they still wore the same helmets from the early NFL days, no player would tackle the way Clowney tackled him.

    Clowney hit him in the back of the helmet as the guy was already on the way to the ground.

    Runner or not, it was a dirty hit, and should have been penalized, as he used the top of his helmet to strike the opposing ball carrier. It should have been called if the ball carrier was a RB, WR, or even a lineman picking up a fumble and running with it.

  659. jason says:

    Ok, so there is some sanity left.

    “100s of US-led forces are being moved out of a base in Baghdad’s Green Zone to elsewhere in Iraq, such as Taji base, & to Kuwait (but still in theatre of ops), a coalition source says, explaining letter below?. It’s to “thin out” troops in Baghdad. “We’re not leaving Iraq”

  660. NYCmike says:

    “But ejection? Like I said that play was legal for 98 years out of a 100 in the NFL.”

    -Ejection?

    I don’t know about that.

    Penalty for sure, plus a heavy fine later on.

  661. jason says:

    as he used the top of his helmet to strike the opposing ball carrier.”

    Looks like incidental contact to me, just like it did to the ref.

    Wentz did not slide, the defender launched himself at him to stop him, but nowhere do I see the defender intentionally targeting his head, it looks like he didn’t even see what path Wentz’s helmet was taking.

    But rest assured, the way the NFL is going, it will soon be touch football between the Philadelphia Quinoa Munchers against the Seattle Sustainable Seeweeds.

  662. NYCmike says:

    Your arguing with the wrong person over the pussification of the league.

    The ticky-tack fouls they call these days are ridiculous.

    BUT, on a play where the tackler clearly aims with the top of his helmet, and as you already stated (““Clowney probably doesn’t even know where Wentz’s head is when they collided he is completely turned around.””) was not looking at his target, that is a play which should be penalized, and not just when the QB is the target.

    It was a dirty tackle all the way around, no matter who was being tackled.

  663. PresidentPaul! says:

    GoldFinger!

    It’s not stopping at $1600 folks

  664. jason says:

    Sorry, if he wasn’t intentionally trying to strike Wentz’s head, then it is incidental contact.

    “BUT, on a play where the tackler clearly aims with the top of his helmet,”

    Facts not in evidence.

    Whatever, a penalty could have been called if the ref saw it your way. He saw it my way.

    But to say it merited an ejection is patently ridiculous. And several posters above did call for his ejection.

  665. jason says:

    It’s not stopping at $1600 folks”

    Zzzzzzzz….

    Even if it went to $2000 it is a huge, monumental, catastrophic loser if you account for inflation.

    In 2018, gold was actually cheaper than it was in 1970!

    If you want gold to match its inflation adjusted price at its peak in 1980, it would have to reach
    over $12000 an ounce.

    https://goldsilver.com/blog/its-official-gold-silver-prices-now-at-inflation-adjusted-50-year-lows/

  666. Robbie says:

    The Wall Street Journal
    @WSJ

    Mike Pompeo told Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell that he wouldn’t run for Senate in Kansas, a person close to the secretary of state said

    – Just baffling to me. A dumb move that could put the seat in play if/when Republicans nominate Kobach.

  667. PresidentPaul! says:

    I bought a ton of it mid december so if it goes to $2000 that means I made a lot of money.

  668. NYCmike says:

    Bunu,

    If you are going to buy gold, make sure to buy shovels to bury it and plenty of guns with which you will need to defend your very valuable hole.

  669. NYCmike says:

    “– Just baffling to me.”

    -Why?

    He doesn’t want to be a Senator.

    Pretty clear.

  670. NYCmike says:

    How many Republican Senators have gone on to become President?

  671. PresidentPaul! says:

    The world economy is a hand grenade right now and people are realizing this. It’s Fed and other central bank supported so there is no reason to get out of risk assets, tech etc but everyone knows we’re all speeding at 300mph towards a wall in doing so.

    I expect higher asset prices this year actually but ppl know there is something wrong in the underbelly of the beast.

  672. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    685. “100s of US-led forces are being moved out of a base in Baghdad’s Green Zone to elsewhere in Iraq, such as Taji base, & to Kuwait (but still in theatre of ops), a coalition source says, explaining letter below?. It’s to “thin out” troops in Baghdad. “We’re not leaving Iraq”

    I have no problem with beginning to withdraw from Iraq. Keep in mind that the Sunni and Kurdish members of the Iraqi Parliament did not participate in the vote requesting the U.S. withdraw its troops. Also, there were celebrations in the street in Baghdad after Soleimani was taken out. There were massive anti-Iran demonstrations in Shia areas of Iraq last year, demonstrators were attacked by pro-Iran militias — who killed hundreds of demonstrators. There is a belief that Suleimani orchestrated the attacks on demonstrators.

  673. Robbie says:

    NYCmike says:
    January 6, 2020 at 6:07 pm
    “– Just baffling to me.”
    -Why?
    He doesn’t want to be a Senator.
    Pretty clear.

    – Which is an easier platform from which to run for president (he clearly wants to do that)? The Senate or as a FoxNews contributor?

    Regardless, I’m far more concerned about seeing the party nominate Kobach and then lose the seat.

  674. NYCmike says:

    “– Which is an easier platform from which to run for president (he clearly wants to do that)? The Senate or as a FoxNews contributor?”

    -Or as the valued member of a re-elected President? (Scenario: He could work for Trump until 2022, and then resign, and campaign and raise money full time after that).

  675. NYCmike says:

    “Regardless, I’m far more concerned about seeing the party nominate Kobach and then lose the seat.”

    -Those pesky primary battles again……but I am sure you, along with Wes and jason, are firm believers in the primary system…..

  676. Tina says:

    Rubio sounds reasonable for once. I don’t think the Maine Chicklet or Senator plannerd parenthood agree.

    No need for “new” witnesses,

    But we do need to hear from gossip blower plus lil Fiona for ?Hillary.

  677. Tina says:

    rco Rubio
    @marcorubio
    ·
    3h
    Worth repeating.

    The testimony & evidence considered in a Senate impeachment trial should be the same testimony & evidence the House relied upon when they passed the Articles of Impeachment.

    Our job is to vote on what the House passed,not to conduct an open ended inquiry.

  678. Tina says:

    Certainly the Rs should subpoena

    Gossip Blower

    Fat Ukrainian

    Crack Biden

    China Biden

  679. Hugh says:

    These people have lost their friggin minds. Maybe this will be a reason type landslide. Can they really think this helps them??

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/here-we-go-schiff-calls-for-congressional-hearings-into-trumps-drone-strike-that-killed-soleimani/

  680. Tina says:

    M.Joseph Sheppard
    @SHEPMJS
    ·
    8m
    Pres. Trump’s aggregate RCP Approval for January is 48%

  681. Tina says:

    They had no problem droning American citizens.

  682. Tina says:

    Schumah caught in another Jebot lie

    Chuck Schumer
    @SenSchumer
    · Jun 5, 2012
    Killing of Abu Yahya al-Libi is a huge blow to al Qaeda & evidence that President Obama’s bold & decisive drone strike policy is working

  683. lisab says:

    since 1970 the return on gold, adjusted for inflation, is about 3% per year

    the thing about gold is that it actually has intrinsic value. it is actually used by industry.

    again, not something you want to use for long-term growth, but it is a legitimate investment in a diversified portfolio of assets.

    not something we invest in personally, except perhaps through some mutual fund that might invest in a gold stock or something,

    but it is not nearly as an off the wall investment as some people make it out to be.

  684. lisab says:

    ‘We’ll Do It For Half’: George Lopez Responds To Iran Bounty On Trump With A Threat Of His Own

  685. lisab says:

    BREAKING: Hollywood saddened to hear of Ricky Gervais’s tragic suicide tomorrow

  686. lisab says:

    Democrats sue Iran over right to use ‘Death to America’ as 2020 campaign slogan

  687. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag, who wants a socialist President and the Rs to lose the House and Senate (because that would be bad for Trump), is “concerned” about the KS seat.

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  688. jason says:

    but it is not nearly as an off the wall investment as some people make it out to be.”

    Well, it is a bad investment long term.

    You measure investment returns compared to other types of investment.

    In that respect, gold has been a loser for decades.

    I understand the argument for having a small position in some gold stocks or mutual funds in the event it rises for some reason or other, but in hindsight it has not panned out.

    As far as intrinsic value, gold is not, as many people think, very liquid. It is not safe for obvious reasons to keep it under a mattress, and if you keep it at a bank or it is in the form of stock or mutual funds, you pretty much have the same risk in a crisis as any other asset.

  689. jason says:

    Bunu giving financial advice is like Messy teaching grammar.

  690. lisab says:

    BREAKING: Dozens of ugly women won’t have sex with you until you support killing babies

    Following the outrageous legislative bans on killing babies in Georgia and Alabama, many brave and entirely unattractive feminists have taken to the streets to declare a sex strike until they can have abortions.

    “We are not going to have sexual relations of any kind until these Medieval policies are reversed!” one particularly unattractive woman screamed.

    The protest took place in Birmingham, Alabama outside of the Waffle House.

    “I guess we will just be relaxing and taking a break,” Trixie Lawrence said of the sex strike. “I’ll be able to catch up on my Netflix shows and devouring gallons of ice cream at a time instead of having sex.”

    The strike was started by fearless abortion advocate Alyssa Milano, who declared that it isn’t natural to think that babies come with sex. “Until we’re able to have sex without babies, we’re not going to have sex.”

    A poll of men in their sexual prime has shown that only no one cares.

    “I thought there was a damned beached whale in the street,” one passerby said. “I thought I was going to have to drag it to the ocean. But no, I’m not too worried that I won’t be able to have sex with her.”

  691. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag hardest hit.

    “President Trump’s approval rating has hit a record high among his supporters in the latest Hill-HarrisX poll released on Monday.

    Of those surveyed, 90 percent of Republicans said they approve of Trump’s job performance, compared to just 10 percent who did not have a favorable view of the president. That is the highest favorable rating among Republicans in the Hill-HarrisX poll since it began asking the question in 2018.”

    Notable is that there are more Dems percentage wise approving of Trump (16%) than Rs opposing him (10%).”

  692. jason says:

    Breaking News:

    “Iran Declines To Sign Colin Kaepernick After Reviewing Workout Video”

  693. jason says:

    Messy will continue not to have sex by joining the movement not to have sex.

    In solidarity, Bitter will continue not to have sex with Kate Upton.

  694. jason says:

    Frankly, I doubt 90% of Rs really like Trump.

    I think 90% of Rs are smart enough to realize that if you don’t want socialism, he is the only game in town.

  695. jason says:

    I find it interesting the MSM has not released any polls regarding the strike in Iraq.

    Makes me think they don’t like the numbers.

  696. lisab says:

    actually gold is completely liquid for any reasonable amount, they actually trade it in 400 oz bars and buy and sell 100’s of tons a day

    i used to work for merrill lynch, as a mail girl, but yes, they are a market maker

  697. jason says:

    That doesn’t mean it is liquid.

    Let’s say you have a 400 oz bar at home. Or even a 50 oz bar.

    Try selling it fast without getting screwed at a pawn shop or gold dealer.

    Gold is a bad investment, has been for decades, the numbers don’t lie.

    People who hold gold because they think of it as a hedge are fools.

    Yes, you can make money on the ups and downs of the market, but that is for pros.

    The average investor who has stayed away from gold has been a smart investor.

  698. lisab says:

    if you had a 400 oz bar, you could sell it at almost spot

    it is jewelry you would get screwed on

  699. jason says:

    if you had a 400 oz bar, you could sell it at almost spot.

    Where?

  700. jason says:

    You have a 400 oz bar in your house.

    Tell me how you convert that into cash quickly without getting screwed.

  701. jason says:

    If you have gold coins, or bars, you can sell them to a dealer, but it will be discounted and there will be fees and you won’t get anything near spot.

  702. lisab says:

    if you had a 400 oz bar, you could sell it at almost spot.
    ——————-

    a gold broker.

    they would take care of the entire transaction, including freezing the spot price at the time you sold it.

    but you would not have a 400 oz bar unless you were bill gates … it would be 500k+

  703. jason says:

    Gold is a dog. Has been for decades. It can go to 1600, 2000, 3000.

    You can get lucky. Buy it today for 1500 and sell it in a month for 1600. But most people who have been holding gold hoping for the big bonanza are way underwater.

    The risk/reward sucks.

  704. jason says:

    “a gold broker”

    So you put it in your car and drive it over to the “gold broker”?

    You think he will pay you spot or “near spot”?

    Think again.

  705. jason says:

    Gold is for suckers.

    Listen to the pitch, conservative radio is full of gold dealers trying to find some Bunus

    Protect yourself from stock market crashes. From political turmoil. From terrorism. From natural disasters. From the crash of the dollar. From war.

    As pointed out in the Forbes article above, it doesn’t “protect” you from a darn thing.

  706. jason says:

    For making money, there are much better options than gold. Over the last 30 years, almost anything would have been better.

    For protection from Armageddon, buy guns and ammunition and stock up on freeze dried food.

  707. SoHope says:

    I dont know about gold but the past year I have been investing in the stock market and have grown my account to about $98k (just in the past . months I’ve made over $42k).

  708. SoHope says:

    *3 months

  709. lisab says:

    You think he will pay you spot or “near spot”?
    ——-

    they absolutely will.

    in the uk you can sell a gold bar anywhere in the country

    i don’t know if you could find a gold broker in duluth, but certainly in ny or chicago or boston

  710. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    722. Huffington Post/You Vote took a survey of their internet panel:

    “Respondents were selected from YouGov’s opt-in Internet panel using sample matching. A random sample (stratified by gender, age, race,
    education, geographic region, and voter registration) was selected from the 2016 American Community Study.”

    I don’ think they got the results they wanted from their selected panel:

    30% Strongly supported the president’s decision
    13% Somewhat approved
    12% Somewhat disapproved
    26% Strongly disapproved

    Will be interesting to see what actual polls say.

  711. lisab says:

    Gold is a dog. Has been for decades. It can go to 1600, 2000, 3000.
    ——————–

    as i mentioned above, it is about 3%+ per year over 50 years adjusted for inflation

    but it is wildly dependent on when you buy in.

  712. lisab says:

    fyi, a gold broker is NOT the same thing as a pawn broker

    they won’t buy your great grandma’s 14k gold bracelet

    they deal in american eagles, gold bars etc.

  713. PresidentPaul! says:

    #735
    What are you invested in to get >50% returns? All tech? All AAPL?

  714. PresidentPaul! says:

    Gold isn’t to “make money” btw. It’s insurance so I don’t throw up putting money in this thing. However, I do happen to think gold is in a bull right now and will continue.

  715. lisab says:

    their are funds which double up or triple up the market

  716. lisab says:

    here is a list

    https://www.thebalance.com/a-list-of-3x-leveraged-etfs-1214924

    of course if the market goes down, you lose your shirt

  717. jason says:

    fyi, a gold broker is NOT the same thing as a pawn broker

    they won’t buy your great grandma’s 14k gold bracelet

    they deal in american eagles, gold bars etc.”

    I understand. Try putting your 400 oz gold bar in your car and driving over to a “gold broker” with it and you will see what I mean.

  718. jason says:

    Gold isn’t to “make money” btw. It’s insurance”

    It’s neither.

  719. SoHope says:

    Mostly tech…day trading with margins. X2 helps a lot.

  720. jason says:

    Actually, you could go into Pawn Stars in Vegas with your 400 oz gold bar in a wheelbarrow and Rick Harrison would buy it from you at a steep discount.

    But you won’t find a “gold broker” where you could take your wheelbarrow in off the street. You would have to package it, ship it, insure it, etc. at great cost.

    Of course, you can store your 400 oz bar at a secure vault (at a cost), so when you sell it it gets shipped directly and you pocket the money… less expenses and after, say, 48-72 hours.

    So “liquid” is not really that “liquid”

  721. jason says:

    Hey SoHope, how goes it?

  722. PresidentPaul! says:

    Gold is up because there is fear.

  723. PresidentPaul! says:

    What is X2?

  724. jason says:

    “i don’t know if you could find a gold broker in duluth, but certainly in ny or chicago or boston”

    Sure, a nice office on the 42nd floor of a nice building. Where people on phones are happily selling and buying gold.

    You can park in front of the building, pull out the 400 oz bar, put in on a dolly, and tell the building security you want to put it in the elevator and go up to the office to sell it. After they threaten to call the police you go back out and the car has been towed and now you are standing in mid-Manhattan with 500k in gold on a dolly.

  725. jason says:

    Gold is up because there is fear.”

    Yes, but we already determined it is no hedge against fear.

    It actually is going up because idiots like you are buying it.

    The people that have been holding it for years and getting their asses kicked are grateful they now can unload some of it.

  726. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is an example of a tech stock giving a high return:

    “Then something unexpected happened: Contrary to Cook’s note of caution, Apple’s stock would go on a tear and have its strongest year since 2009. Its stock finished 2019 at $293.65 a share on Tuesday, making for a 89% annual gain and triple the 29% rise for the benchmark S&P 500 Index. For the entire decade, Apple’s stock rose nearly tenfold. In other words, someone who invested $10,000 in the company on Jan. 1, 2010 would have $109,627 today in stock gains and dividends.”

  727. SoHope says:

    I have margins on my account so even though I only have $98k in cash I can buy double that on margin for most stocks. I’ve bought Tesla a lot lately. If I sell at a 5% gain it is actually 10% because of the margins…same goes for losses however.

  728. lisab says:

    But you won’t find a “gold broker” where you could take your wheelbarrow in off the street. You would have to package it, ship it, insure it, etc. at great cost.
    ————–

    a gold broker is NOT the same thing as a pawn broker, they deal in gold (and silver usually)

    they will quote you the spot price and completely handle the shipping and insurance etc.

    now if you had a 400oz bar, which is a bank vault bar — it would probably have to go to ny or chicago in the usa. those are the bars you see in movies.

    but in boston they routinely trade in up to kg size with no issue. you would get 99% of the spot price. they check the price when you sell it to them.

  729. SoHope says:

    TESLA is actually up 83% in 3 months…if I were actually smart enough to keep it there at full margins instead of pulling out when I thought the run was over I would be up 166% instead of 50 something…Tesla is defying all logic

  730. jason says:

    What are you invested in to get >50% returns?”

    You didn’t get 50% return in gold.

    Gold is only up 26% in the last 5 years, not accounting for inflation.

    It is up 9% in the last 6 months, not a bad return. But so are a lot of other investments with less volatility.

    Look at SoHope.

  731. jason says:

    but in boston they routinely trade in up to kg size with no issue.”

    I am sure they do.

    But if you had one in your house, you would not get 99% of spot price.

  732. PresidentPaul! says:

    Ya, last I looked Tesla made 350K cars a year compared to ford and GM both of which make 5 million a year but for some reason Tesla is worth more than both of them.

    But they have a good brand name and its customers are cultists so maybe it will do well.

  733. lisab says:

    yes you would

  734. SoHope says:

    Tesla and GE mostly and a handful of penny stocks when I think there is upside. Hell Fitbit was bought out by google for 7.35 a share in cash. The deal is expected to close within 6 months and the stock is trading at 6.45….that is a guaranteed 12% in 6 months for goodness sakes.

  735. PresidentPaul! says:

    I don’t like stuff like that though. Too risky at this point. Same with Netflix a company that might take over the world but just loses money like Uber. No thanks. Say what you will about Apple overvalued or not it’s not going bankrupt.

  736. lisab says:

    well … technically i wouldn’t because i don’t live near boston anymore

    i would have to go to duluth or minneapolis and then it would have to go to chicago … but i would get 98%

    yes, they really do walk into gold brokers with briefcases of gold

  737. jason says:

    Try it sometime. You will get screwed. I guarantee it.

  738. jason says:

    Yeah, GE has made a nice run.

  739. PresidentPaul! says:

    I think there is fear.

  740. SoHope says:

    My plan is to get a $250,000 (50%) downpayment just in time for the real estate market drop. My guess is I have a year maybe 2.

  741. PresidentPaul! says:

    You’re buying a 500k home?

  742. SoHope says:

    The kind of house I want will be around $500k and with a 50% downpayment I should be able to get it even with my f’ed up credit from my divorce

  743. jason says:

    This is big…McConnell has the votes to tell Pelosi (and Schumer) to GFTs.

    https://www.redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/01/07/761231/

  744. jason says:

    Collins and Murkowski agree that first the House presents its case and the WH responds.

    THEN if necessary new witnesses could be called using the Clinton impeachment model, but in that case there were only 3 depositions.

  745. lisab says:

    Try it sometime. You will get screwed. I guarantee it.
    ————————-

    i have seen it done

    here is the first site in boston i checked

    https://www.bostonbullion.com/sell-to-us/

    they are buying at (spot – $20)/oz or 98.7%

    which is in boston

    in nyc you would certainly get better or if you were selling a 400oz bar you would certainly get better

    i used to work in that market

  746. jason says:

    You are missing the point.

    You won’t get that for a 400 oz bar because there is no physical way to deliver it without shipping it.

    You are better off selling chicken wings, much more liquid.

  747. jason says:

    Let’s see what Pelosi does now.

  748. lisab says:

    no they routinely ship those bars

    in the uk you will get that kind of price anywhere in the uk … that is routine, i am not sure if it is by law or not, but that is the rule … you could be in northern scotland and you would get almost spot price

    in boston it would be unusual but not unheard of …

    now in duluth a 400 oz bar would probably be sent to be sent to chicago, but they ship gold all the time.

  749. lisab says:

    in boston it would be unusual but not unheard of …
    ———————

    a 400 oz trade would be unusual, but not unheard of in boston. the broker would LOVE that, just one bar to check instead of 400

  750. lisab says:

    if you have not seen them, people usually trade 1 oz bars

    imagine checking 400 bars of gold! they have to check each one individually

    but i have only seen a 400oz bar of gold in the movies. i have held $500 million in bonds twice …

    but never seen a bank vault gold bar irl. only the small bars. but yes, they do really carry around briefcases of 1 oz gold bars.

  751. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Be cautious on Tesla stock. Tesla would collapse without government subsidies. Keep a wary eye on any changes in government regulations. The $7,500 federal tax credit for buying a Tesla has ended. There are questions about whether he can be able to continue to sell environmental tax credits to other automakers to make up for their not selling enough zero emission vehicles.

    As a Los Angeles times article once stated: Musk “definitely goes where there is government money…That’s a great strategy, but the government will cut you off one day.” When that happens Tesla is broke, and his investors much poorer.

  752. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Michael Moore
    @MMFlint
    Hello fellow Americans. Do you know this man? Did you know he was your enemy? What? Never heard of him? By the end of today you will be trained to hate him. You will be glad Trump had him assassinated. You will do as you are told. Get ready to send your sons &daughters off 2 war

    @TobiasHuch
    Replying to @MMFlint
    You are so stupid. This man was a famous Terrorist and killed thousands of people – women and children.

  753. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    SteveKornacki Jan 2
    Just four days ago, Simon Tisdall of The Guardian put Suleimani on his list of 10 movers and shakers who will shape 2020: “If anyone can stop Suleimani, it will be jealous mullahs in Tehran anxious to thwart his oft-denied political ambitions.”

    Suleimani definitely became a mover and shaker.

  754. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @Liz_Wheeler Jan 3
    Soleimani killed 603 American servicemembers. Soleimani maimed thousands more with IEDs. Soleimani approved the attack on the U.S. Embassy. He was plotting to kill more Americans. Yes he deserves to be dead. If you’re lamenting his death, you hate Trump more than a terrorist.

    @JesseKellyDC Jan 2
    If you’ve been to a VA hospital in recent years and seen a young man missing limbs, there’s a reasonable chance Qasem Soleimani is responsible for it. He’s unquestionably an enemy of America and I’m glad he’s dead and I’m bummed it was a quick death.

  755. SoHope says:

    780. Tesla has been providing a superior vehicle and are the apple of EVs. There is a cult following. The federal money was $1750 until Dec 31 and is now over. Sure they are collecting China and European subsidies. I believe they are the real deal. However I quit investing in them about 1-2 weeks ago thinking they were overbought and that a correction was coming. It hasnt come yet but it definitely cant keep this type of price growth up. Dont get me wrong we are less than 2 years from battery prices dropping to make it on parity with internal combustion engines. When that happens Tesla will be the gold standard. I get that the price is based on potential.

  756. jason says:

    I am putting lisab in charge of my gold as soon as I make enough money that I can afford to make dumb investments.

  757. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    784. You could be right, but of the 17,047,725 motor vehicles sold in the U.S. in 2019, only about 236,000 were electric (down from about 361,826 the year before). Losing the subsidy hurt. Tesla sold about 159,000 in 2019, so it is beginning to dominate the U.S. electric car market, so it might do well in the long run. I am one of those who believes there will be a breakthrough in hydrogen technology — which a lot of people are very skeptical about.

  758. DW says:

    Wow, listening to NPR radio this morning, you get the impression Soleimani was a humble, compassionate philanthropist who ran orphanages, fed the hungry and provided shelter for the needy.

  759. jason says:

    24 Australians arrested for deliberately setting fires this season.”

    I still blame climate change.

    It affected their minds.

  760. jason says:

    Proud Obamacommunist is going to have an orgasm with this. So will Stalin’s ghost.

    “She said the Congressional Progressive Caucus should start kicking people out if they stray too far from the party line. Other caucuses within the Democratic Party in Congress require applications, Ocasio-Cortez pointed out. But ‘they let anybody who the cat dragged in call themselves a progressive. There’s no standard,’ she said.”

  761. jason says:

    The far left has its own litmus testing deadenders.

    NYC is going to be jealous.

  762. SoHope says:

    The problem with hydrogen is the fueling and power conversion isnt cost effective and never will be vs electric. Charging your car overnight at home is a game changer. Tesla is also doing big things with self driving that are amazing. Government will have to get in the way to “protect” jobs however.

  763. mnw says:

    I would love to see all the trolls, who own this site now, put half their money (if they really have any, which I doubt) into gold, & the other half into Tesla.

    If there’s anything left over… cannabis stocks!

  764. mnw says:

    Oh, I forgot…

    And buy an annuity for your IRA, too.

  765. jason says:

    I would love to see all the trolls, who own this site now, ”

    Dave Wissing is a troll?

    Who knew.

  766. Tina says:

    How much more can we subsidize Tesla. I kind of like their truck, a future product offering,

    However, I cannot get past the subsidies and Chinese solar panels,

  767. Boonu says:

    I have gold, mnw can GFH.

    My parents gave me a Ron Paul Forever – 110 Straight Primary Losses Comemorative engraved bracelet that I am sure is solid gold. It has a GP marking which I think means Gold Product.

    I am thinking of having lisab sell it for me since she knows all the gold dealers from Duluth to NY.

  768. Phil says:

    In other news not related to the hot topic of gold, You Govt. Poll released today shows Americans approve of the strike on Salami by a plurality of 43-38 percent. Like every other issue these days the numbers break down completely along partisan lines. Gee, what a surprise.

    Given the fact that the left owns the airways I guess that is about the best Trump could hope for.

  769. SoHope says:

    Federal EV subsidies for Telsa are done. They tapered off after a company sales their 600000th car. Nissan and Telsa dont get is anymore….the other car companies however they spigot is wide open for a $7,500 tax credit. The fact that people are still picking Teslas without the credit over Audi or Jaguar’s EV’s that come with the full credit. Yes Musk has a hankering for industries that suckle at the federal test (Tesla & SpaceX) but you have to admit every company he has innovated.

    SpaceX pioneering reusable rockets and is what they are promising with Starship is even close to true we will be entering the space age.

    Telsa is a free market answer to climate change boogie man (which I care exactly 1.99 $hits about). The technology is here and it makes economic sense.

    But like I said earlier I’m not investing in them right now. The price seems too high right now.

  770. SoHope says:

    Dear lord I cant type

  771. jason says:

    I guess Tesla has been more successful than Solyndra.

  772. NYCmike says:

    “Dear lord I cant type”

    -HE has moved on to voice recognition software, so you are sh*t out of luck!

  773. NYCmike says:

    “I guess Tesla has been more successful than Solyndra.”

    -Solyndra investors got paid up front with no money down…..they probably made out like bandits.

  774. jason says:

    Why the Dems might be wrong that Bolton will “save” impeachment…

    https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/01/07/john-bolton-now-says-hell-testify-but-will-it-matter/

  775. Tina says:

    Barr needs to intervene in the flynn matter

    They now say he was not helpful.

    December 2018 his assistance was helpful

    The prosecutors are scum

    All for a non crime.

  776. lisab says:

    I am putting lisab in charge of my gold as soon as I make enough money that I can afford to make dumb investments.
    —————————

    i would not advise buying gold,

    but, i can attest to the fact that people do buy stupid amounts of it, particularly people from the middle east.

  777. lisab says:

    Charging your car overnight at home is a game changer.
    ————————-

    shame about those people in california without power

    “plug in the car honey, the forest fire is coming”

    “sorry honey, the electric grid is off, i told you we should have bought a ford pickup”

  778. lisab says:

    tina,

    will california’s new water restrictions affect you?

  779. lisab says:

    Bloomberg Says ‘We Can’t Let the Average American Have Guns’

  780. lisab says:

    Banal, unfunny and not as dangerous as he thinks: It’s time we stopped glorifying Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes

  781. lisab says:

    Ricky Gervais cheapened the Golden Globes – but worse he overshadowed vital political statements

  782. Phil says:

    McConnell has secured all 53 Republican votes to conduct the Senate trial under the exact rules that were used in the Clinton impeachment trial. That includes the votes of Murkowski, Collins, and Romney.

    Time to fold, Nancy. Send over the articles. it’s over.

    I suppose she could say no, and use as an excuse that the House is now considering adding impeachment articles over the legality of striking the Iranian terrorist who is responsible for killing 600 American servicemen and crippling thousands of others. Uh, I wouldn’t recommend it as a political strategy, however. LOL

  783. lisab says:

    McConnell has secured all 53 Republican votes to conduct the Senate trial under the exact rules that were used in the Clinton impeachment trial. That includes the votes of Murkowski, Collins, and Romney.
    ————————–

    why would she fold?

    they want to use the impeachment to get out the vote

  784. jason says:

    You should have addressed her as Stinky Tina.

  785. jason says:

    These people are nuts.

    Time published a “guide on how to tell your children about the death of Suleimani”.

    Michael Moore has sent a letter to the Ayatollahs begging for forgiveness.

  786. jason says:

    McConnell has secured all 53 Republican votes to conduct the Senate trial under the exact rules that were used in the Clinton impeachment trial. That includes the votes of Murkowski, Collins, and Romney.”

    Right, because the impeachment articles are so ridiculous even if you hate Trump its a bridge too far.

    I still don’t think there will any R votes to convict.

  787. lisab says:

    Michael Moore has sent a letter to the Ayatollahs begging for forgiveness.
    ————————-

    that was funny … apparently it has theme music running through it

    and the iranian leader issued a fatwa against music

    so no one in the iranian leadership can listen to it

  788. lisab says:

    7 out of 10 of the richest communities are in the dc area …

    today all non-essential federal employees are being sent home 4 hours early

    they expect ONE inch of snow

  789. jason says:

    “‘Iran’s parliament, Iran’s parliament voted to eject all Americans and coalition forces from the country,’ said Biden at a campaign stop in New York City.”

  790. jason says:

    Rand Paul just announced a victory rally to celebrate the removal of coalition forces from Iran.

  791. lisab says:

    “‘Iran’s parliament, Iran’s parliament voted to eject all Americans and coalition forces from the country,’ said Biden at a campaign stop in New York City.”
    —————-

    what country does biden mean?

  792. lisab says:

    Imam of Peace / Pray for Peace…

    SHOCKING! ‘Voice of America’ confirms that #Soleimani’s daughter that is directing suicide operations against the USA is a US citizen herself.

  793. NYCmike says:

    jason says:
    January 7, 2020 at 9:53 am

    I would love to see all the trolls, who own this site now, ”

    Dave Wissing is a troll?

    Who knew.

    -Exhibit A for next time there is a question about reading comprehension issues…….

  794. Tina says:

    Was she included in the 2500 granted citizenship by the obumbler?

    Imam of Peace / Pray for Peace…

    SHOCKING! ‘Voice of America’ confirms that #Soleimani’s daughter that is directing suicide operations against the USA is a US citizen herself.

  795. NYCmike says:

    https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/01/07/stampede-kills-56-at-funeral-for-iranian-general-slain-by-us/

    -I’ve heard of collateral damage, but the new time-delay switches are something else!

  796. lisab says:

    Was she included in the 2500 granted citizenship by the obumbler?
    ————————

    they did not say

  797. NYCmike says:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/01/07/five_states_face_federal_lawsuit_over_inaccurate_voter_registrations__142089.html

    “The four counties singled out by Judicial Watch in Pennsylvania – Allegheny, Chester, Bucks, and Delaware – have voter registration rates ranging between 96% and 98%. Judicial Watch notes that the number of voter registrations removed from the rolls in each county the previous two-year period is 72, eight, five, and four, respectively.”

    -We gotta get those old housewives off the voting rolls!

  798. lisab says:

    cnn just settled their covington catholic suit

    no word on how much they paid

    i am surprised they paid anything

  799. jason says:

    I would love to see all the trolls, who own this site now, ”

    Dave Wissing is a troll?

    Who knew.

    -Exhibit A for next time there is a question about reading comprehension issues…….”

    Hmmm……why next time? Looks like “next time” is already here.

  800. Tina says:

    Wow. The kid will be rich.

    M.Joseph Sheppard
    ?

    @SHEPMJS
    24m24 minutes ago
    More
    CNN settles $275M lawsuit with Covington Catholic student Nick Sandmann: report – Washington Times

  801. Tina says:

    The jebots just shat themselves, gossipblower and Soviet Schiffty will have to testify.

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    ·
    1h
    McConnell:
    51 senators determine what we do. But I’m sure there will be intense discussion..the people calling the witnesses won’t be us. It will be the prosecution and the defense

  802. NYCmike says:

    “Wow. The kid will be rich.”

    -Dang! Good for him!

    I knew I shouldn’t have stopped working on my sh*t-eating-grin back in college!

  803. DW says:

    “Time published a ‘guide on how to tell your children about the death of Suleimani’”.

    Did the publish guides for the despots that Obama had killed?

  804. NYCmike says:

    “Did the publish guides for the despots that Obama had killed?”

    -Obama didn’t kill anyone.

    They all killed themselves, like Epstein did.

  805. Tina says:

    He is also suing other outlets, including the compost.

  806. Waingro says:

    Meg Cunningham
    ?

    @Meg_Cunn
    3m3 minutes ago
    More
    INBOX: Rep. Duncan Hunter has submitted his letter of resignation to Congress

  807. NYCmike says:

    https://www.battleswarmblog.com/?p=43105

    -jason mentioned Solyndra earlier.

    Looks like these “investors” took the taxpayers for even more money!

  808. lisab says:

    it does not mean he will get $275 million

    that was what the lawsuit was for

    there is no word what the settlement amount was for

    it could have been $2

  809. lisab says:

    Number being thrown around on Twitter is a $25 Million Dollar Settlement

    which seems a lot

  810. lisab says:

    iran launched a bunch of missiles at bases in iraq

  811. Tina says:

    Us jets just launched from uae, per Israeli source.

  812. lisab says:

    CNN Attacks Babylon Bee: ‘The Internet Is Only Big Enough For One Fake News Site’

  813. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    837. Wow! Sounds like the SolarReserve was as bad a boondoggle as Ivanpah. Another failed component of Harry Reid’s legacy. Noticed who is on the board of Solar Reserve:

    “Are SolarReserve Inc. executives connected to the Democratic Party? And how!

    Chairman Lee Bailey donated tons of money to Democrats, including Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, John Kerry, Chuck Schumer, Barbara Boxer and (naturally) Harry Reid.

    CEO Tom Georgis has only sent money to two candidates: Barack Obama and Harry Reid.

    “Board member James McDermott? Barack Obama, Harry Reid, Barbara Boxer, John Kerry, Elizabeth Warren, Kirsten Gillibrand and Bart Stupak (remember him?).

    Yes, it’s a great mystery how SolarReserve Inc. got all those federal subsidies…”

    It was just revealed that Chelsea Clinton received $9,000,000 since 2011 from an internet company, IAC/InterActiveCorp, on whose board she served. Add Hunter Biden’s follies, and it appears the Clinton/Biden/Obama families have done well. No wonder the far left wants these people out.

  814. Bayernfan says:

    It’s been an hour… and Drudge hasn’t mentioned the rocket attack. Clearly someone else is running it….. the site has been slow to update stories for a year now.

  815. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    843. Iran is taking on the U.S. and Israel, both nuclear powers, and heavily armed. In additional Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states support U.S. bases. Iran is badly outgunned, and this will not turn out well for them. Iran is in a awful economic condition, and has recent experienced serious unrest. Add anti-Iranian riots against Iran in Shia Iraq — this is not the time to pick a confrontation with the U.S. and its allies.

    They might try and close the Straight of Hormuz, but the U.S. is self sufficient in oil and gas, and actually an exporter.

  816. Tina says:

    Reports are more than f35s are in the air.

  817. Tina says:

    IRan state media posting a hit.

    The hit occurred in Gaza years ago.

    Pray for our soldiers.

  818. Phil says:

    Very stupid of Iranians to directly attack American forces from inside Iran. Incredibly stupid actually. Let’s see, what should we hit? As SD, says, they are badly outgunned. Shall we take out command and control? An oilfield? How about a refinery? How about all of the above? So many decisions.

    I really thought they would use their proxies from outside their borders. As SDC just said, won’t end well from them.

  819. Tina says:

    The mullahs prolly left their entire navy exposed for one thing.

    And their refineries for another thing.

  820. Tina says:

    Breaking Iranian planes taken off.

    This won’t end well, if true.

  821. Tina says:

    If the mullahs took their planes into the air, they are following a 1970s strategy of war fare.

    Their planes won’t last very long.

  822. Tina says:

    Espee arrives at wh carrying large bag.

  823. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here are pictures of several dozen F-35 jets doing the “elephant walk” down the runway at Hill Air Force base in Utah. Their awesome aircraft.

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a30432841/f-35-elephant-walk/

  824. Phil says:

    Wonder if Iranians briefed Pelosi and Schumer before they launched.

  825. Tina says:

    Botoxic is likely happy.

    Nancy Pelosi
    @SpeakerPelosi
    · 8m
    Closely monitoring the situation following bombings targeting U.S. troops in Iraq. We must ensure the safety of our servicemembers, including ending needless provocations from the Administration and demanding that Iran cease its violence. America & world cannot afford war.

  826. Tina says:

    Looks like the mullahs are caught with more fake pictures or attacks

    They happened in Gaza or Syria.

  827. Bayernfan says:

    Casualties reported at base.

    General Buck Turgidsen has arrived at WH

  828. Tina says:

    Check out her twitter feed, she is showing that many of the pictures from the mullahs are fake. They are strikes that occurred years ago.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/CindyOtis_

  829. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @Jerusalem_Post
    Iranian retaliation attacks have begun with a missile attack by the IRGC on the Ain al-Assad air base in Iraq that hosts US soldiers, according to Iranian media.

    @Jerusalem_Post
    The #Pentagon confirmed that over a dozen ballistic missiles were fired at US bases in #Iraq as the #IRGC announced that the attacks were part of the retaliation for the #SoleimaniAssassination.

  830. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @Jerusalem_Post
    The #Pentagon confirmed that over a dozen ballistic missiles were fired at US bases in #Iraq as the #IRGC announced that the attacks were part of the retaliation for the #SoleimaniAssassination.

  831. Tina says:

    Piglosi is closely monitoring the situation from a party.

  832. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper said on Tuesday the United States wants to de-escalate tensions with Iran, but the country is ready to finish any war that could be started.

    “We are not looking to start a war with Iran, but we are prepared to finish one,” he said. “What we’d like to see is the situation de-escalated.”

  833. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @realDonaldTrump
    5h
    Had a very good meeting with
    @kbsalsaud of Saudi Arabia. We discussed Trade, Military, Oil Prices, Security, and Stability in the Middle East!

  834. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    What is interesting about the attacks taking place is so far there have only been reports of Iran attacking targets in Iraq. No reports of missiles hitting Saudi Arabia, Israel or the Gulf States.

  835. PresidentPaul! says:

    In the 80’s Volcker had to raise interest rates to 18.63% to fight put to bed an inflation rate of 11% meaning the only way to fight it was to not match it but push ahead of it. Inflation is actually kind of high in China at the moment and since the entire country is a debt bomb 10 times worse than the USA we know they won’t be combating that inflation. Rising oil prices now globally the same thing that contributed to inflation out of control in the 70’s.

    You sure gold is a bad “investment.”

  836. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Al Jazeera English
    25m
    Iran threatens “more crushing response” if the US launches any fresh attacks, reports Iranian state television.

  837. Tina says:

    The picture of ayatollah in their military situational room is from 2014.

  838. dblaikie says:

    All I know is that I wouldn’t want to be anywhere near an Iranian Oil Refinery tonight or in a military compound that fires missiles.

  839. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump had to disrupt the goldilocks because he spent too much time listening to John Bolton (who wants to impeach him anyways!)

  840. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump had to disrupt the “goldilocks economy” because he spent too much time listening to John Bolton (who wants to impeach him anyways!)

  841. PresidentPaul! says:

    Hope Jerome Powell will be waking up early tomorrow trying to fix this F$%^ up.

  842. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Kurdish News

    @K24English
    9m
    #BREAKING: Iraqi media reports that Iranian missile strikes at Ain al-Assad airbase only caused Iraqi security casualties. No confirmation of numbers. #Soleimani #IranUSA

    @K24English
    19m
    #BREAKING: President
    @realDonaldTrump
    expected to make an announcement soon at the Oval Office regarding Iranian missile strikes against bases in Iraq housing US and coalition force

  843. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Besides the missiles hitting the Ain al-Assad base in Iraq; only other report is missiles have hit a base near Erbil in Kurdistan.

    Either this was a limited attack, or the U.S. was able to effectively respond to prevent other attacks.

  844. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    K24English
    8m
    #BREAKING: Media in #Iran alleges that Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei is “supervising and directing” attacks on US bases at Iranian military operations headquarters. #Soleimani #IranUSA

  845. Tina says:

    876 fake photo.

  846. PresidentPaul! says:

    I don’t think the president should be able to be the “commander in chief” but that begs the question who should be the commander in chief.

    The only solution to this is that shouldn’t be one at all.

  847. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I have no problem that Nancy is now drinking at a party. I was rude for the Iranians to began a missile attack without first checking Pelosi’s schedule.

  848. Phil says:

    Shouldn’t have a commander-in-chief? It’s in the Constitution – you remember that little document don’t you?

  849. Tina says:

    Rasha Al Aqeedi
    @RashaAlAqeedi
    · 1h
    Quick note: Al Asad is an Iraqi military base hosting coalition troops. It’s not an American base. There are far more Iraqi forces at the base than American.

  850. PresidentPaul! says:

    “In politics, stupidity is not a handicap.”

    ? Napoleon Bonaparte

    And the proof is here

  851. Tina says:

    Hey bubu,

    It could be cnn that made the Iranians attack us to distract us from the Covington settlement,

  852. Tina says:

    Retweeted

    Alex Ward
    @AlexWardVox
    ·
    10m
    A CENTCOM spokesperson confirmed to me that Iran fired 15 missiles: 10 struck Al Asad airbase west of Baghdad, Iraq; one struck Erbil in northern Iraq; and four failed.

  853. PresidentPaul! says:

    Did you get that? Next time you go to an island with one of your buddies, don’t both of you go to one side of the island or it could tip over and you would go directly into the ocean. You don’t want to do that.

  854. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    884. Is this your announcement you are running for office?

  855. Tgca says:

    Ocho
    Ocho
    Nueve

  856. Tina says:

    ???? ??????? ??????
    @Mr_Alshammeri
    Reports that the U.S air force is currently hitting targets around ain Al Assad base of backed Iranian militia PMU and kataib Hezbollah.
    Which stopped the ground attack on the base by the Iranian back militias.
    The U.S forces are routing the PMU.
    #iran #Iranattack

  857. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @RudawEnglish
    14m
    #BREAKING: The United States federal aviation administration has banned flights over: Iran, Iraq, Persian gulf and gulf of Oman.

    @RudawEnglish
    39m
    #BREAKING: Iran’s IRGC warn if Iranian soil is bombed, Tehran will target the cities in Dubai, UAE, Haifa and Israel — via its affiliated Telegram channel.

  858. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @Jerusalem_Post
    22m Iran’s rockets are precise and can be deadly. But #Iran knows it doesn’t have an air force or navy that can confront the US.

  859. PresidentPaul! says:

    Wanted to share something that occurred in Britain that interests me.

    The Labor government in Britain in 1966 when the British pound was falling (currency crisis) actually blocked gold imports entirely and confiscated gold from its citizens.

    This was done by a developed country that WAS NOT on the gold standard.

    One very interesting tidbid is that none of the countries that confiscated gold never confiscated gold jewelry (workaround)

  860. BayernFan says:

    this was a show for the home crowd, nothing more.

  861. lisab says:

    Gee, i wonder where Iran got all this money for missiles.

  862. lisab says:

    I guess Michael Moore’s letter didnt work

  863. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @HayderSH
    Jan 5
    Protesters in Tahrir square in #Baghdad shouting against BOTH American and Iranian intervention in #Iraq. #IraqProtests

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/IraqProtests?src=hashtag_click

    There are anti-Iranian demonstrations in other parts of Iraq as well.

  864. lisab says:

    CNN reporting a senior White House source says there is no doubt President Trump will retaliate against #Iran after all the rhetoric of the past few days and there are fears this may spiral out of control

  865. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    We are not there yet, but what happens to the price of gold when there is a breakthrough and the world is flooded with cheap synthetic gold.

    “A team of Chinese researchers have turned cheap copper into a new material “almost identical” to gold, according to a study published in peer-reviewed journal Science Advances on Saturday.
    The discovery will significantly reduce the use of rare, expensive metals in factories, said the authors.”

  866. lisab says:

    crying more likely

    he missed it

  867. Phil says:

    CNN says……..

    I quit reading right there.

  868. Tina says:

    Looks like the mullahs did a ground attack,on the base, which failed.

  869. PresidentPaul! says:

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1578447708222.png

    Trump gets confused, goes back to bed.

  870. PresidentPaul! says:

    Iran warns not to retaliate for the two waves of attacks or it will destroy Dubei and Haifa

    http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1578446716180.jpg

  871. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @Jerusalem_Post 5h
    The Iraqi #Hezbollah militia opened fire at protesters in the city of Nasiriyah in southeastern #Iraq and burned protest tents, injuring six demonstrators. #IraqProtests

    Looks like Trump may have embolden the Iraqi Shia who dislike the Iranians.

  872. Proud Obamacon says:

    King Orange won’t address the nation tonight. Hannity must not have sent him the talking points yet. Both busy cleaning their diapers.

    Prayers for our troops who are being used as pawns by the Orange Disgrace to try to get himself re-elected. Just 10 months before this sorry failure is voted out and then it’s off to jail.

    #USA

  873. VictrC says:

    PO, did you ever volunteer and wear the uniform? Have you ever put yourself in harms way? Have you ever faced the enemy wearing the uniform of the United States?

    If not, then you have NO BASIS to whine and insinuate. I have. My fellow vets have, and to the last one of them each one of us is proud this President didn’t let an attack on our embassy go unrequited. I am getting on a plane to Kuwait in 24 hours while you sit home.

    Our troops are not pawns. We know what we sign up for and Iran is a bad actor. They are a terrorist supporting nation and everyone knows it. They export murder of our men and women. Shame on you.

  874. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump

    All is well! Missiles launched from Iran at two military bases located in Iraq. Assessment of casualties & damages taking place now. So far, so good! We have the most powerful and well equipped military anywhere in the world, by far! I will be making a statement tomorrow morning.

    Replying to
    @realDonaldTrump
    There’s no one I’d rather have making these decisions than President Trump. He may hit Iran, he may not. He may ramp up sanctions or maybe not. One thing we know FOR SURE. He won’t send billions in cash to the Mullahs in the middle of the night like the last guy did!

  875. PresidentPaul! says:

    Why do we have an embassy in Iraq to begin with…

    I can’t believe Trump is dumb enough to get dragged into essentially Bush’s mess.

  876. Proud Obamacon says:

    Spare me, VC. You have your head so far up the Orange butthole.. keep spouting your resume and talking points if that’s what makes you feel good.

    With that said, I thank you for your service and I want you to be safe. You signed up to fight for the USA, not to be used by a wanna be dictator for his own personal gain. If this was a Democratic president doing what Orange Ass is doing, you would be thinking differently, very very differently and I guaran-damn-tee that!

  877. PresidentPaul! says:

    Wait…I forgot. He hasn’t died yet even though he’s really old.
    Ron Paul 2020?

  878. Proud Obamacon says:

    “did you ever volunteer and wear the uniform? ”

    I know someone who didn’t. You’re dear leader, your chosen one. When will you be asking him to resign?

    Give me a phucking break

  879. Tina says:

    Ww 3 is canceled again.

    Obama paid for those Iranian missiles.

  880. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    RudawEnglish 37m
    #BREAKING: United States Secretary of State Mike Pompeo speaks with #Kurdistan Region’s Prime Minister Masrour Barzani, updates him on latest developments and Iranian missile attacks, both sides agree to stay in touch as situation develops — Rudaw Washington Correspondent.

    Next time someone wants to attack the Kurds, just remember they were there for the U.S. when it counted.

  881. PresidentPaul! says:

    Hillary was far more hawkish on Iran than Trump during the campaign, and don’t forget she was a strong supporter of Bush invading invading Iraq in 2003. She was also extremely corrupt.

  882. VictrC says:

    PO I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt but you are truly a scu^bag. I served two Democratic Presidents that I disagreed with a lot, but served because they were the commander in chief so spare me your sh*t about Trump.

    You are too much of a pu$$y to serve your country, but quick to criticize it if it fits your political narrative. Sit back, complain, whine, throw hissy fits, stomp your feet and let the brave go and protect Americans from terrorists like Iran.

    If anyone wanted to know what the Vichy were like, just look at PO and the left in this country.

  883. Phil says:

    Looks like Iranians may have launched Operation Symbolic Revenge tonight. Perhaps no American casualties. Good for us – and very good for their side.

  884. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Advice from the North Korean leader to Iran:

    https://twitter.com/bon_resin/status/1214741169390981123

  885. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump is coming across as erratic to me the last thing he should want going into an election year. His poll numbers have been improving. The economy most likely would have held up.

    I don’t understand why he would get involved in this other than his advisers eventually just got the best of him.

  886. Victrc says:

    For once can the left in this country put aside its partisanship and hatred and just come together. Today we should all just be Americans, standing strong together.

  887. lisab says:

    For once can the left in this country put aside its partisanship and hatred and just come together.
    ————-

    no

  888. PresidentPaul! says:

    “I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee that says, ‘Fool me once, shame on … shame on you. Fool me… You can’t get fooled again!'”

    We’ve been through this before.

  889. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    920. VictrC. Have a good trip to Kuwait, and stay safe. Have two close friends serving in area, so its tough to watch; but feel a lot better about the situation with Trump in charge than Obama.

  890. PresidentPaul! says:

    And you thought Hunter Biden was bad.
    Laughing their way to the banks
    Chelsea Clinton Has Made $9M Sitting On Corporate Board
    Notably, Chelsea joined the board of IAC the same year she joined NBC News as a $600,000 per year ‘special correspondent’ doing virtually nothing, before switching to a month-to-month contract three years later.
    While Chelsea ostensibly wasn’t hired to protect a Ukrainian oligarch from prosecution, it’s clear that those who are ‘born right’ receive dividends in spades.

  891. Proud Obamacon says:

    VC I really feel sorry for you. So full of anger and namecalling that you can’t even see. You really have forfeited your ability to think and its sad. So many have sold their soul to get on the sinking SS Orange. History (and the internet) does not forget.

    There’s a big difference between serving COC’s who you disagree with and service COC’s who will use you as a pawn for personal gain.

    Please be safe and thank you again for your service.

    And as for this: “For once can the left in this country put aside its partisanship and hatred and just come together. Today we should all just be Americans, standing strong together.”

    I think I’ll just save that and substitute “right” for “left” when yall start your whining about the next Dem president.

  892. Proud Obamacon says:

    “I don’t understand why he would get involved in this other than his advisers eventually just got the best of him.”

    Oh I dunno, maybe he thinks an election year war is good for reelection? Hell, he tweeted his famous tweets about Obama in 2011/12 remember?

    Distraction from impeachment? His removal would be a slam dunk if witnesses would do a simple thing like testify. That’s why his Rethug stooges won’t even allow testimony. No witness testimony at a TRIAL.. imagine that. The Jury collaborating with the defendant. Truly a kangaroo court in the Senate. Yall don’t care. Constitution? flush it right?

    Or maybe your question was rhetorical.

    Sad times for our nation.

  893. PresidentPaul! says:

    No, Trump was trying to uncover money embezzling done by Joe Biden and his son. The Democrats want to impeach him for it and elect the guy president who committed the crime (Biden)

    You have it backwards.

  894. Proud Obamacon says:

    A good CoC needs to be measured and deliberate, not impulsive and reckless. Now Iran is threatening to attack inside the US if the US retaliates for today’s strikes. Orange has put himself in a pickle here and all of our lives and our families’ lives are on the line. Elections have consequences after all, we get the leaders we deserve.

    In 10 months, this sorry excuse will be voted out. Then we’ll start to put the pieces back together. I pray that the nation isn’t irreparably damaged by then.

  895. Proud Obamacon says:

    VC: “You are too much of a pu$$y to serve your country…”

    So according to VC, anyone who hasn’t served in the military is a pu$$y. Good to know.

  896. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    928. Chicago style politics at its best. Enriching yourself and family while in office.

    Obama, who supposedly was not wealthy, just bought a $12 million dollar home on Martha’s Vineyard; the Clinton Foundation was notorious for its “pay for play” characteristics while Hillary was secretary of state. Then then there is what we have learned about Hunter Biden and his dealings.

    Believe the venality of these individuals played a major part in the rise of both Donald Trump and Bernie Sanders.

  897. Tina says:

    lorablySassy ?? ?? ??
    ?

    @DeplorablySassy
    Follow Follow @DeplorablySassy
    More
    BREAKING:

    The only person who actually got bombed tonight was Nancy Pelosi, after diving into 4 vodkas while “keeping an eye” on the Iran situation

  898. Victrc says:

    PO – you know what, I did get pissed off at you using this situation for political gain and crying crocodile tears for the troops, but that doesn’t warrant name calling. I shouldn’t have sunk to that level. Can’t have discourse if at least one side isn’t civil, and I usually am. I shouldn’t Have done that.

    I will say that I think you are very wrong in your assessment of teh situation. What happened, our embassy being attacked, deserved to be met with quick and a decisive response, which it was. I realize you may think the Benghazi situation was blown out of proportion and Obama did nothing wrong, so that may be your baseline for action.

    I think what is being done is right, it is just and I am happy to do my part to help protect us and our allies.

  899. Bitterlaw says:

    As a warmonger, I approve of the current state of affairs. We’ll see what happens.

    In other news, I was diagnosed with diabetes 37 years ago today. Without that diagnosis, I probably would have had a 30 year military career. I could be a military analyst on tv right now.

  900. Proud Obamacon says:

    VC, that’s all well and good. You conveniently ignore the big picture that we just entered an election year and there is an impeachment trial coming up. Since 2011, your guy has been saying that war with Iran is good for reelection. He loves distractions when narratives need to change. Do the math, sport.

    Yes a response to the embassy attack was needed. But was it proportional? What about all the bluster about attacking 52 sites, one for each hostage, including historical treasures? OK sport, Iran has made its move and also put its next move on the table (attack inside US). It’s your guy’s turn now. What’s he gonna do? He’s stuck and that is scary for the country. It’s what happens when the CoC is incompetent. That’s not a left/right thing, its just facts based on what’s happened here. If you can take off your blinders (or imagine this was 2015 under Obama), you would see it clearly.

    Look, I agree that at the end of the day we are all Americans of course. Now that Iran is saying they are ready to attack inside the US, we all should take a breath and think about why we are in this situation. We need steady and measured diplomacy, not reckless bluster. That’s my opinion and there are many many many Americans who feel the same way.

    Have a safe trip and remember all the stuff you write now can be cited years from now (as long as Dave lets us hang out here).

  901. Proud Obamacon says:

    “PO – you know what, I did get pissed off at you using this situation for political gain and crying crocodile tears for the troops”

    Not using this situation for “political gain”, just stating facts.

    “Crocodile tears for the troops? That is offensive. You don’t know me or my situation. I choose not to share my resume to impress you. That doesn’t give you the right to create a cartoon character and attack it.

  902. Bitterlaw says:

    Be safe, Vic. Thank you again for your service. I envy you.

  903. Bitterlaw says:

    PO is not a cartoon character? Who knew?

  904. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    “I am embarrassed by the kind of amoral scumbag we have as President. Many of his tweets are sad, petulant, and crude. However, I am glad every day that Hillary is not President. I hope that he wins in 2020”

    – Bitterlaw

    Probably the most cartoony thing ever written on hhr and this place is filled with morons.

    Everyone here is an amoral scumbag which is why they accuse others that disagree with them for it. The GOP is a party of hypocrites projecting their failings onto others.

  905. Proud Obamacon says:

    Funny, Bitter. And BTW, VC thinks you are a pu$$y because you didn’t serve you country. His words, not mine. VC is very angry and hateful today.

  906. Victrc says:

    PO – I’m very careful about what I put online. I understand its all written in ink, which is why I dont use Twitter, instagram et al. It’s too easy to fly off the handle and say something you regret.

    Wasn’t creating a cartoon character. I have dealt with the left enough to know that there truly isn’t a lot of love for our troops from them, in fact, most only pay lip service while mocking them behind closed doors.

    BTW I take umbrage with your quote about “imagine this was 2015 under Obama.” If it were I would be applauding his decision and backing him.Defending our interest isn’t a D or R issue. Iran has been hostile in the region for some time, this isn’t the first attack. If you had spent time in the gulf recently you’d know how on edge the nations there are about Iran, and they knew something like this was coming.

    This was the correct move. This time I urge you to do what you always tell us to do, take off the blinders. This has nothing to Do with impeachment. He was never being removed from office because he dind’t Commit a crime. This is about dealing with a serious enemy of freedom. A terrorist, and the world is better that he’s gone.

  907. Bitterlaw says:

    PO – You did not serve in the military.
    I could not serve in the military.

    Even you should be able to see the difference.

  908. Proud Obamacon says:

    VC you continue to miss the big picture. You’re looking at this from a micro angle that Iran is a bad character. I agree with that. But there’s a reason why CoC’s before your guy took a more measured approach to Iran. Now your guy is finding out why. You can’t be reckless and impulsive. It doesn’t work – and now yall finding out the hard way while the entire nation suffers.

    Zoom out just a bit and you can see how this attack is entirely consistent with wagging the dog during impeachment and reelection campaign. Yes he’ll be acquitted in the Senate only because it will be a kangaroo court where the jury is conspiring with the defendant and refusing to allow witnesses to testify. If you choose to stick your head in the sand, that’s your choice.

    As for you having “dealt with the left.” Not sure what dealings you had but i’ll remind you that there are millions of Democrats serving in the armed forces. You should be careful about labeling all Democrats the way you do if you dealt with only a couple of loons on social media or made-up cartoon character figments of your imagination. Lots of Democrats have served and died for this nation.

  909. VictrC says:

    Bitter – thank you. The military would have been better had you been able to serve.

    PO – I think cowards who attack our military or who are ok using it when it benefits them or their leader, but then don’t want it to perform its duty when its done under an R are weak people.

    Big difference.

    Anyway, I know I’m wasting my words. So be it.

  910. Proud Obamacon says:

    “PO – I think cowards who attack our military or who are ok using it when it benefits them or their leader, but then don’t want it to perform its duty when its done under an R are weak people.”

    Yeah .. who are these cowards? Are you just making this stuff up? seriously. Have a safe trip, we’ll continue this some other time.

  911. VictrC says:

    PO – if you think Obama’s policy with Iran was rational and proper then we have a very big chasm to cross. I think one of the weakest parts of his presidency was his dealing with Iran. It was weak, it embolden them, and our allies in the region were vehemently opposed to it.

    I prefer this approach. I do not think it’s reckless, I think its warranted, its the right response.

    As for dealing with Dems, LOL, I do it all the time, and I know there are Dems in the military. There are a LOT more conservatives serving my friend, though that doesnt marginalize anyone’s service. Were happy to have everyone. No one cares whose right or left when “you’re in the sh&t”

    Look, we will never agree on politics. You and I have very little in common, other than you didn’t hear me call Obama names for 8 years. He was my President whether I agreed with him or not. I think he was a mediocre to bad President, which was a shame because he had the chance to be a transformation figure in American history. He wasn’t up to that job and for that the country suffered.

  912. PresidentPaul! says:

    Kimmel covers the fake war
    Late night is back

  913. lisab says:

    CNN To Launch Real News Spinoff Site

  914. @K24English
    The Iraqi Army on Wednesday said it suffered no casualties in an Iranian missile attack on bases housing US forces early in the morning. #IranUSA #Iraq

    @K24English
    #BREAKING: The Iraqi Army says 22 ballistic missiles were fired on US bases in #Iraq—seventeen landed at the Ain al-Assad airbase and five in the Kurdistan Region capital of Erbil.

    RudawEnglish
    #BREAKING: Iraqi Prime Minister Adil Abdul al-Mahdi says United States informed of incoming attack as soon as Baghdad received verbal communication from Tehran — PM statement.

    @RudawEnglish
    #BREAKING: Iran-backed Iraqi militia commander Qais al-Khazali says Iran has completed its job, “our turn now” following Iranian missile attacks on Iraqi military base housing American soldiers — via Twitter.

  915. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    U.S. allies indicating support:

    @RudawEnglish
    ‘America does not have a better friend than #Israel, and Israel does not have a better friend than America’ — Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu pledges his country’s full support to the United States in wake of regional crisis

    @RudawEnglish
    #BREAKING: United Kingdom royal navy and military helicopters are currently on standby as tensions reach boiling point in Middle East — Defence Secretary Ben Wallace tells the British House of Commons.

    @RudawEnglish
    Germany calls on Iran to ‘refrain from further escalation’

    @RudawEnglish
    UK foreign secretary Dominic Raab condemns Iran’s “reckless and dangerous attacks” on bases in Iraq hosting Coalition (including British) troops, urges pursuit of “urgent de-escalation.” – FM statement via Sky News

  916. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Face-saving attack? Experts question whether Iran intentionally missed US targets in Iraq?”

    Not sure a non-nuclear power really wants to start a war with a nuclear power. WWIII would be a bit one-sided. Plus, Trump did basically threaten to bomb them into the stone age.

  917. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Per the new Morning Consult tracker, registered voters approve of the strike that killed Soleimani, 47-40%.

    At the same time, they feel the airstrike made the US *less* safe, 50-32%.”

  918. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    National General Election
    @MorningConsult
    Poll: Registered voters

    Biden 46 (+6)
    Trump 40

    Sanders 44 (+2)
    Trump 42

    Bloomberg 43 (+2)
    Trump 41

    Buttigieg 42 (+1)
    Trump 41

    Trump 43 (+1)
    Warren 42

  919. jason says:

    “CNN on Tuesday settled a defamation lawsuit filed by Covington Catholic High School student Nick Sandmann over its botched coverage of a viral confrontation with a Native American elder that had portrayed the Kentucky teen as the aggressor.

    Fox 19 first reported that CNN settled with Sandmann for an undisclosed amount. The $250 million defamation suit sought damages for the “emotional distress Nicholas and his family suffered” in the fallout of the network’s reporting.”

  920. jason says:

    Proud Obamacommunist was only here to divert attention from his hero Maduro and his socialist paradise of Venezuela.

    According to Proud Obamacommunist, THIS is “democracy”

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-politics/venezuelas-guaido-pushes-past-troops-to-enter-congress-after-socialist-takeover-idUSKBN1Z6174

  921. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “Anti-government protesters in Iraq have set fires and closed streets near Baghdad’s Tahrir Square during a demonstration against the Iranian missile strike that targeted two military bases in Iraq housing U.S. troops.
    The Iranian attack was in retaliation for a U.S. drone strike that killed top Revolutionary Guard commander Gen. Qassem Soleimani last week near the Baghdad airport.
    About 100 protesters took part in Wednesday morning’s demonstration near Tahrir, the epicenter of Iraq’s protest movement. The protesters carrying Iraqi flags shouted “Iran out, out!” before they were dispersed by security forces.”

  922. jason says:

    Here you go. CNN can call anybody a racist because “it can’t be proven one way or the other”.

    “Deeming someone a racist, the CNN motion says, is not actionable in a defamation case because it cannot be proved true or false.”

    No wonder they settled….

  923. jason says:

    I wrote that first line. It should not be in quotes.

  924. jason says:

    “Iranian journalist Masih Alinejad reprimanded western media for falling for such “propaganda,” explaining that Iranians are compelled to attend national public events like Soleimani’s funeral.

    “In the city of Ahvaz, where large numbers of people turned out to mourn Soleimani, the government has forced students and officials to attend,” Alinejad wrote for The Washington Post. “It provided free transport and ordered shops to shut down. According to videos sent to me by people inside the country, the authorities are making little kids write essays praising the fallen commander. First-graders who didn’t know how to write were encouraged to cry for Soleimani.”

    She continued, “I have received thousands of messages, voice mails and videos from Iranians in cities such as Shiraz, Isfahan, Tehran and even Ahvaz, who are happy about Soleimani’s death. Some complain of the pressure to attend services for him.”

  925. jason says:

    Bunu is quoting Colbert?

    Bunu and Nancy Pelosi are on the same side.

    Hilarious.

  926. Phil says:

    Boy, the thread took a real nose dive last night – turned into a running conversation between bunu and Proud Obamacan.

  927. jason says:

    Great conversation.

    An America hating holocaust denier vs. a Stalinist propagandist.

    What could go wrong.

  928. Tina says:

    The Maine chicklet has just called out lying schumah. Evidently schumah is behind attack ads against her.
    I have my disagreements with her on issues but I knew she is against the impeachment because of the soviet style house hearings. She is a stickler for process.

    So it appears that the drats “lost” her as a possible yes vote.

    We need to see how Pierre and planned parenthood feel.

  929. jason says:

    Everyone here is an amoral scumbag”

    PeteWilson troll, thank you for self-identifying, and I know you are you sincere when it comes to your opinion about yourself.

  930. Phil says:

    Iranians fire missiles like Pelosi handles impeachment – all bluster with no intention of following through.

  931. Wes says:

    Who else appreciates the irony in 942?

  932. janz says:

    Amazing turn of events following the Soleimani take down. Trump’s speech this morning was clear and tactfully scripted. The market seems relieved. I wonder how the Dems will react. They are becoming more and more the party of the negative regarding contributing to this country’s well being. I only hope the House will change speakers in 2020.

  933. mRviTO says:

    No casualties, messages of support from our allies, Iraqis protesting Iran.

    Thoughts and prayers switch to the trolls today… sorry for your loss.

  934. NYCmike says:

    “The Maine chicklet has just called out lying schumah. Evidently schumah is behind attack ads against her.”

    -After her performance during the Kavanaugh hearings, Collins deserves to be re-elected, no doubt about it. Hopefully, she prevails next November, and then remains a strong independent Maine Republican.

    Between her and LePage, both have done well for their constituents while in office.

  935. NYCmike says:

    Good speech by Trump.

    I would have liked a longer message to the Iranian people about their potential for freedom, liberty, and prosperity, but I’ll accept that the President, Vice President and their advisers are better informed about that.

  936. NYCmike says:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/democrats-grasping-at-straws-to-impeach-trump-now-regret-banning-straws

    -Love this!

    CNN just had an issue with the Bee in the past week.

    Hilarious!

  937. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/heres-a-look-inside-las-new-600000-to-700000-condos-for-the-homeless/

    -These places will probably be ruined by the time Mike Rowe is elected.

  938. jason says:

    “I could get behind him.”

    Gayest post of the day

  939. jason says:

    Between her and LePage, both have done well for their constituents while in office.”

    Zzzzz… NYC never misses an opportunity to kiss the ass of a Paulbot.

    LePage was the Matt Bevan of Maine, good riddance.

  940. jason says:

    I admire Trumpwilson’s honesty, coming here and declaring himself to be an amoral scumbag.

    Such self awareness and candor is rare these days.

  941. Tina says:

    Stock market lies the speech.

  942. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1214954104218218496

    -Robbie always made a point of ignoring him, as well as many others. Just figured I would help him keep doing that.

  943. NYCmike says:

    “LePage was the Matt Bevan of Maine, good riddance.”

    -Governors of Maine are term-limited, so now Maine has a Democratic governor, which makes jason happy…….

  944. jason says:

    Ma, that bait works…

  945. jason says:

    LePage is Paulbot ass, he only got elected in first place because he ran against two Dems that split the vote.

    That being said I supported his re-election because I felt sorry for the people of Maine, at least he kept taxes in check.

    Now I hope he is spending more time with his family.

  946. mRviTO says:

    Ben Shapiro
    @benshapiro
    ·
    23m
    The media’s narrative has been the Obama narrative for years: bribing the Iranians moderated them and neutralized their threat. This was an outright lie. That lie was proved by Iran’s escalation in recent months. So the media and Democrats had to blame that escalation on Trump.

    Ben Shapiro
    @benshapiro
    ·
    24m
    When Trump killed Soleimani, this proved the moment of truth for the media and Democrats: were the Iranians truly going to go to war because of Trump (whereas Obama bribery would have kept them in line), or were they rational actors who could have been deterred instead of bribed?

    Ben Shapiro
    @benshapiro
    The Iranians backed down. Obama’s deal was not magic. It was a basic appeasement of a terrorist regime. Trump’s strategy is not magic. It was a basic deterrence of a terrorist regime. The JCPOA narrative has been thoroughly debunked, but the media and Dems will continue to lie.

    Ben Shapiro
    @benshapiro
    ·
    8m
    So the media’s new narrative is that Iran is more rational than Trump, so no war. You are now declaring the Iranian regime, which hangs gay people from cranes, oppresses women, and pursues global terrorism, more rational than a president using basic deterrence strategy. GTFO.

    Ben Shapiro
    @benshapiro
    ·
    8m
    This was Deterrence 101. There was no indicator at any time that Trump was desperate for war. And there was very good reason to believe that Iran would back down — namely, that they would actually lose a war. The point of peace through strength is PEACE.

  947. jason says:

    LePage refused to go to the 2012 GOP convention because the GOP didn’t let Ron Paul hijack the caucus process.

    A real moron.

  948. jason says:

    Trump made a good trade. He decapitated Iran’s high command in Iraq and in exchange a few missiles damaged some warehouses while others made holes in the desert.

  949. NYCmike says:

    Shapiro was strongly anti-Trump in 2015/2016.

    He seems to be able to take in new information the last 3+ years, as opposed to people like Robbie and “CG”.

  950. NYCmike says:

    jason still yapping about LePage……Ma, looks like someone fell overboard!!…..or is he part of the chum(p)?

  951. jason says:

    The MSM is now in turmoil.

    Yesterday, Trump was bloodthirsty warmonger leading us blindly into war.

    Drudge happily obliged with IT’S WAR.

    Today, CNN has a hard hitting story “Trump says all is well when he should have addressed nation”.

  952. NYCmike says:

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/01/treasonous-or-just-stupid.php

    -Robbie and “CG” prefer that on Jan 20, 2021, the next President is someone that Rep. Omar wants instead of the current President.

  953. NYCmike says:

    “The MSM is now in turmoil.”

    -One more reason Trump deserves 4 more years!

  954. jason says:

    -Governors of Maine are term-limited, so now Maine has a Democratic governor, which makes jason happy”

    Could be the Chutzpah Award of the year, even this early.

    NYC, who has supported deadenders and willingly sacrificed a slew solid/winnable GOP seats in favor of liberal Dems for a decade in order to send a message, now says I am “happy” with a Dem governor in Maine.

    I love this place.

  955. lisab says:

    lepage was good on taxes

    he was leading the fight on the new multi-state gasoline tax the dems are trying to push through from maine to virginia

    they want a 17 cents new gasoline tax, which they are calling a “fee” so they can avoid voting for a “tax”, that is supposedly to fight co2

    it is really going to the government pension funds

    and … because it is a new program, it requires a bunch of new high paid administrators to run it, whereas if it was just an extension of the current gasoline tax, it would not require any new government employees

  956. NYCmike says:

    jason comes here with “Here is a Paulbot…..blah blah blah!”

    lisab comes here with a taxing issue that LePage fought against.

    New Year, same M.O.

  957. lisab says:

    sorry, i like low taxes

    i want to spend my money on my family,

    not on co2 elimination

  958. lisab says:

    the plane that went down was filled with iranians and iranian/canadians

    it may have been blown up by iran by mistake

    but that is just a rumor

  959. NYCmike says:

    “not on co2 elimination”

    -As long as jason keeps typing on HHR, instead of spewing in public, we are doing our part.

  960. lisab says:

    breaking: france has just surrendered

  961. lisab says:

    Omar: ‘It’s time for America to choose: are you with the terrorists or the peaceful Iranians?’

  962. lisab says:

    Arsonists blame climate change for making them set hundreds of fires in Australia

  963. lisab says:

    Iran threatens to hate America twice as much as they already did after Soleimani killing

  964. lisab says:

    Rose McGowan identifies as 72 Virgins of Paradise to marry Qasem Soleimani

  965. NYCmike says:

    And the first “M” in a long time goes to…..

    ……lisab ruined it again!

  966. jason says:

    jason comes here with “Here is a Paulbot…..blah blah blah!”

    LOL

    I love it when NYC tries to rewrite history..so easy to prove wrong.

    “Earlier today, the RNC credential committee let stand the decision by the convention that the Ron Paul delegates would not be seated in Tampa, after the Paul delegates refused to split their delegation.

    Gov. Paul LePage announced that, as threatened, he would boycott the convention”

  967. Tgca says:

    Uno
    Cero
    Cero
    Siete

    Pootahs!

  968. jason says:

    New Year, same M.O.”

    No doubt, there will be plenty of Mikey Maneuvers just like every other year.

  969. NYCmike says:

    “I love it when NYC tries to rewrite history..so easy to prove wrong.”

    -jason,

    Please show me where I said the story about 2012 wasn’t true.

    I wouldn’t say that at all, because I remember it.

    The “blah blah blah” is in reference to your inability to get past the fact that the adherents of the Republican Party are a bit wider in scope than your narrow view, BUT who don’t go as far as those who would rather have a Democratic President in 2021.

  970. jason says:

    The Ukrainian plane could have been shot down, we will see.

    I doubt it was by a missile lobbed at Iraq, they wouldn’t be leaving from Tehran, but probably missile defense system in Tehran were on high alert expecting a US counterstrike. It could have been someone mistaking the airliner for an incoming missile.

  971. jason says:

    “adherents of the Republican Party”

    Is that what Paulbots are? Adherents?

    LOL

  972. NYCmike says:

    “No doubt, there will be plenty of Mikey Maneuvers just like every other year.”

    -Hopefully my wife continues to think like jason.

  973. jason says:

    “Republican Party are a bit wider in scope”

    This is REALLY good.

    So Mr. Mikey Maneuver 100% Litmus Test Approved or You are a RINO Traitor who Deserves to be Replaced by a Liberal Democrat is now interested in “wider scopes”.

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  974. NYCmike says:

    At least we know where Robbie has been the last few days……he couldn’t get a direct flight from Pogo Loco to Iran for the funeral, so it took him a little longer each way.

  975. NYCmike says:

    “You can’t make this sh-t up.”

    -No, you are doing just fine in that department.

  976. jasonj says:

    Hey Bunu, you are an “adherent”.

    Suck it.

  977. jason says:

    Doesn’t everybody think of NYC when they think of “bigger tent” for the R party?

    No?

    Yeah, me neither.

  978. NYCmike says:

    “Yeah, me neither.”

    -Says the guy who stayed home in 2016……

  979. jason says:

    Please show me where I said the story about 2012 wasn’t true. ”

    You disputed LePage was a Paulbot.

    I proved you wrong.

    GFY.

  980. jason says:

    I didn’t stay home. I voted for every Republican on the ticket.

  981. CG says:

    Is NYC the AOC of the GOP.

    “we can’t have too big of a tent.”

    Also, I remember jason saying of LePage’s 2014 reelection that he deserved to lose.

    To the extent that LePage was a “Paulbot”, the candidate he endorsed for President last time was not Rand Paul but Chris Christie.

  982. NYCmike says:

    “You disputed LePage was a Paulbot.”

    -No I didn’t.

    I dispute that his high regard for Ron Paul/Rand Paul/libertarians should be his only distinguishing characteristic, and you should look at the rest of his record, especially when a Democrat has taken over his former office, and is trying to increase costs on taxpayers in Maine and elsewhere.

  983. NYCmike says:

    “I didn’t stay home. I voted for every Republican on the ticket.”

    -I would love to see a picture of the 2016 PA “Republican” column……something tells me jason is either lying now, or he lied earlier.

  984. CG says:

    jason is now claiming to have voted for Trump?

  985. CG says:

    He wasn’t even going to vote for Pat Toomey, unless Toomey publicly disavowed Trump.

  986. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    I am very happy that you contributed your electoral heft to President Trump’s victory in Pennsylvania in 2016, and look forward to the same in 2020.

  987. jason says:

    I said I voted for every R on the ticket.

    I am on record as saying I didn’t consider Trump a Republican.

  988. NYCmike says:

    https://donsurber.blogspot.com/2020/01/why-media-got-iran-wrong.html

    “It also showed the American media is a joke that should not cover anything more important than a PTA meeting. They were wrong in their predictions of World War 3 because they based that on a misguided belief that the president is evil, insane and unintelligent.”

    -BUT, “CG” will fall for their “reporting” any day of the week that ends with a “y”.

  989. CG says:

    Thusly, according to jason’s rules, my streak is and will likely remain intact.

    However, I will be voting in the Democrat primary this coming March for the first time ever.

  990. NYCmike says:

    Since the “(R)” column isn’t affected by your considerations about candidate Trump, I am very happy that you contributed your electoral heft to President Trump’s victory in Pennsylvania in 2016, and look forward to the same in 2020.

  991. CG says:

    I’m already on record disagreeing with the “media” on this week’s Iran stories.

  992. jason says:

    He wasn’t even going to vote for Pat Toomey, unless Toomey publicly disavowed Trump.?

    This was true, I briefly took that stance.

    But my friend Bitter convinced me that was not a good idea, and I strongly supported Toomey’s re-election and even sent him money.

    Btw, I met Toomey at a rally for Romney in 2012 at the Harrisburg Airport. As I exited the hangar, he was standing alone outside, probably to make a call. So I said hello and asked him what he thought Romney’s chances were in PA. He said polls were tightening.

  993. NYCmike says:

    “I’m already on record disagreeing with the “media” on this week’s Iran stories.”

    -Yet, you’ll want the candidate who will vow to try to sign another JCPOA-like deal with Iran to defeat President Trump in November 2020.

  994. jason says:

    Ma, that bait is really good for the NY area fish.

    Of course, they seem to be dumber fish than average, so it might not work elsewhere.

  995. jason says:

    Corey supports Joe Walsh but won’t vote for him.

    This is the opposite of Jul, who voted for Dems but didn’t support them.

  996. CG says:

    I will not vote for any candidate who supported Obama’s Iran deal.

    However, my research shows that Mike Bloomberg opposed it, so I am open to voting for him in a general election.

  997. NYCmike says:

    “He said polls were tightening.”

    -Good that he is a Senator as opposed to a pollster.

  998. NYCmike says:

    “However, my research shows that Mike Bloomberg opposed it…”

    -Once the mullahs “promise” to ban fizzy drinks, Bloomie will sign a deal.

  999. CG says:

    Joe Walsh won’t be on the IL GOP Primary ballot. If he or Weld were, I would likely take a GOP ballot to vote for them. If Walsh were slating delegates, I may have even taken on the task of running for Delegate.

    The main reason for me to vote in the Democrat primary is to vote against the incumbent Cook County States’ Attorney. While at it, I will do what I can to stop Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren.

  1000. Phil says:

    Gun grabbing Bloomberg?

    Yeah, me too. Excellent choice.

  1001. NYCmike says:

    “While at it, I will do what I can to stop Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren.”

    -Yup, that’s all a “lifetime conservative Republican” can do!

  1002. NYCmike says:

    https://freebeacon.com/national-security/biden-in-2010-said-irans-influence-in-iraq-was-greatly-exaggerated/

    -“CG” would rather have a President Biden than a President Trump in 2021.

    Mind you, I did NOT say “CG” would vote for Biden.

  1003. CG says:

    Trump was saying even wackier left-wing things than that in 2010, such as GWB was a war criminal who should be impeached.

    But if things Trump said in the past were irrelevant, then the same rules would also have to apply to Biden.

    But I won’t vote for either in a general election. (Might possibly vote for Biden in a primary if that makes strategic sense, but my first option would be Bloomberg)

  1004. CG says:

    Since 2010, Iranian influence in Iraq has greatly increased because of the actions taken by Obama/Biden and Trump to pull out American troops.

  1005. NYCmike says:

    https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/chicago-airports-add-boxes-for-travelers-to-dispose-of-marijuana

    -Smoke ’em while you got ’em!

    This may explain some opinions coming out of Illinois…….

  1006. jason says:

    “You disputed LePage was a Paulbot.”

    -No I didn’t.

    I dispute that his high regard for Ron Paul/Rand”

    LePage was not a Paulbot, he just has a “high regard” for Ron Paul.

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  1007. CG says:

    I don’t think he will be the Libertarian nominee. If he is, he would have to fit my criteria of being vote-worthy and I have a hunch he would fall short.

  1008. jason says:

    “Also, I remember jason saying of LePage’s 2014 reelection that he deserved to lose.”

    And he did deserve to lose. But I also said I hoped he would win because I felt the people of ME didn’t deserve a tax and spend Dem.

    If I lived in ME I probably would have voted for him for that reason. Only the people in Bitter’s neighborhood are so wealthy they can vote against their financial interest no problem.

    Finally, LePage didn’t support Rand Paul. But remember, a lot of hardcore Paulbots don’t like Rand Paul nearly as much as they do Ron. I think they are birds of a feather, but some hardcore Paulbots think he is too willing to compromise.

    Anyway, of the 4 Rs I least cared for in elected office, Bevan, LePage, Amash and Rand Paul 3 are gone. Progress.

  1009. Tina says:

    PPP drat has all ds trailing in Iowa to trump.

    Trump and China Biden are tied now in az

  1010. jason says:

    Chaffee is no Gary Johnson. Johnson might be a couple french fries short of a happy meal, but he isn’t a flaming liberal like Chaffee. He is liable to take away more votes from the socialists than from Trump.

  1011. jason says:

    Bloomberg is a gun grabbing nanny stater who thinks the government always knows what is best for you. When he says things like “the average American should not be allowed to have guns” and “the average American should not be able to buy a 32 oz Coke” that comes through loud and clear.

    But I won’t call him a socialist like I do every other Dem. I could be wrong, but I doubt he would go crazy against the private sector like the others. I would call him a nanny state capitalist. It is what I would have called Trump for most of his life too, btw.

  1012. jason says:

    I don’t see Trump losing IA. It seems to be trending R, and none of the Dems would seem to connect well there.

  1013. jason says:

    “After his Senate defeat, Chafee endorsed then-Sen. Barack Obama for president in 2008 and was elected governor of Rhode Island as an independent in 2010.

    He formally switched his affiliation to the Democratic Party in 2013 and sought the Democratic nomination for president in 2016, but withdrew from the race before the primaries began.”

    I don’t see this guy pulling many Republican/conservative votes from Trump.

  1014. CG says:

    Since both of my Jewish grandmothers have passed on, I can deal with Bloomberg’s nannyism. Maybe he will leave me in the will!

  1015. CG says:

    Chafee as a Libertarian does not make sense.

    The Libertarians will nominate some yahoo with way too much baggage. Why should they be any different than the major parties this cycle?

  1016. BayernFan says:

    On twitter Paul Krugman says QAnon hacked his ip and downloaded child porn.

  1017. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    It hard to believe Trump would have this type of polling numbers in a PPP poll:

    2020 Arizona GE:
    Trump 46%
    Biden 46%

    Trump 47% (+1)
    Sanders 46%

    Trump 47% (+2)
    Warren 45%

    Trump 47% (+3)
    Buttigieg 44%

    @ppppolls
    1/2-4

    2020 Iowa GE:
    Trump 48% (+1)
    Buttigieg 47%

    Trump 49% (+3)
    Biden 46%

    Trump 49% (+5)
    Sanders 44%

    Trump 49% (+5)
    Warren 44%

    @ppppolls
    12/29-31

  1018. dblaikie says:

    Lincoln Chafee is a joke. But hey, a majority of the candidates in this election cycle are jokes, so why not. He will not hurt Trump and will give the never Trumpers a place to go.

  1019. NYCmike says:

    “If he is, he would have to fit my criteria of being vote-worthy…”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfDyOyrY-zM

  1020. CG says:

    1060. You got it!

    Glad you got someone to help you with it.

  1021. dblaikie says:

    Only in today’s Trump Derangement world the Democrats seem to support and Iranian terrorist with the blood of hundreds of Americans on his hands over the American who had him eliminated.

    How well I remember my friend Wes saying that with Trumps behavior after the 2018 election there was no way he could win. Well Wes is a smart guy, but he forgot to factor in the sheer lunacy of these people.

    CG and Worm and all the other TDS posters can say whatever they want, but if this stuff keeps up Donald Trump will win by a landslide.

  1022. jason says:

    Chafee as a Libertarian does not make sense.”

    Well, he ran as Dem in 2016.

    Somebody could ask him what made him become a Libertarian in the last couple years.

  1023. NYCmike says:

    “It is what I would have called Trump for most of his life too, btw.”

    -Fine.

    And his name was under the (R) on the Pennsylvania ballot, thereby making him the Republican candidate.

    Both can be true.

  1024. jason says:

    On twitter Paul Krugman says QAnon hacked his ip and downloaded child porn.”

    Didn’t work out for Carlos Danger.

  1025. jason says:

    And his name was under the (R) on the Pennsylvania ballot, thereby making him the Republican candidate.”

    He was the Republican candidate, but he wasn’t a Republican.

    Both can be true.

    So I only voted for the Rs on the ballot.

    GFY.

  1026. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t see Trump losing IA. It seems to be trending R, and none of the Dems would seem to connect well there.”

    -We need “Nicky Numbers” Nickelodeon to check in, but I think MD may have driven him away for good.

  1027. NYCmike says:

    “So I only voted for the Rs on the ballot.”

    -jason “only” voting for the Republicans on the ballot.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A__OujlO-8o

  1028. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Democratic candidates have been personally campaigning in Iowa over the last year. The fact a poll shows the Iowa voters favor Trump is not a good sign for the Democrats.

  1029. CG says:

    dblaik,

    Please name the specific Democrats you are referring to so I may look into it.

  1030. NYCmike says:

    h/t Instapundit:

    https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/oscar-mayer-now-hiring-wienermobile-drivers-for-2020-class

    If only I was 20 years younger, not married, no children, and no mortgage……..

  1031. CG says:

    Trump won Iowa by 9 points last time. PPP (D) is PPP but those are not great numbers for Trump.

    PPP (D) is saying that the undecided vote is 85% anti-Trump. They are finding that Biden supporters won’t commit to backing Bernie in a general election, and vice versa. Obviously, that would be a problem for Democrats, but Trump does not look strong in these states.

  1032. CG says:

    The big picture is if Trump winds up losing Iowa, he will have lost in a landslide.

    If he winds up losing Arizona, it will be the first time a Republican has lost it since 1996 and the second time since 1948.

    I think Arizona would be a bigger concern than Iowa right now.

  1033. jason says:

    I already said I was wrong about Trump in 2016. I thought then he was not fit for office. It was based on what I knew about him then, so I don’t regret my decision.

    I now think otherwise based on his term in office so will no problem voting for him. He is by far better than anyone else running.

    I still don’t think he is a conservative, and he does not represent the Republican party that I joined when I came to this country (but then, most of the current Republicans don’t either).

    If that is not good enough for NYC, he can GFH.

    If it is good enough for NYC, he can GFH.

  1034. Phil says:

    Trump isn’t losing Arizona. LOL

  1035. CG says:

    Phil, aren’t you (politically) scared of all the Mexicans there?

  1036. NYCmike says:

    “The big picture….”

    -Says the guy who predicted a Hillary victory with over 300 Electoral votes…….yeah, let’s go to you for a correct prediction.

  1037. NYCmike says:

    “I still don’t think he is a conservative…”

    -I am still waiting for the first person to claim that Trump is a conservative.

  1038. Phil says:

    You mean Mexican-Americans? You mean the same ones that were there in 2016 when Trump carried the state?

    Uh, no.

  1039. jason says:

    IA will not be in play in 2020. Trump only won it by 4 in in 2016 so if the election is like I think it will be, very similar to 2016, it was close then and could be close again.

    Corey is right that if Trump loses IA, he will lose in a landslide.

    Same as if loses Texas, which he won by less than he did IA.

    The good news for Trump is that he is not losing either one.

  1040. CG says:

    I was far from the only one saying Hillary would win and my predictions have owned everyone else here ever since.

  1041. CG says:

    Trump won AZ by 4 points last time and now there are more of them, are there not?

  1042. jason says:

    Whoops, IA will not be in play in 2020.

    Trump only won AZ by 4 in 2016.

    That is how it should read above.

  1043. CG says:

    Trump won Iowa by *9* last time. Arizona was 4.

    If he loses Iowa, it will be a blowout.

  1044. jason says:

    I think its realistic to think a Dem could carry AZ.

    I just don’t think any of the Dem front runners at the moment could do it.

  1045. jason says:

    Yes, I fixed it. 9+ in IA and actually only 3.5 in AZ.

    If Trump loses IA it will be a blowout.

    But he is not losing IA.

  1046. CG says:

    He’s not going to win Iowa by 9 points either.

    So, the states that were closer, how many of them are going to be teetering?

    and I believe Biden could theoretically win Arizona.

  1047. Phil says:

    4 pts worth of voting age residents? I suppose you can always hope though can’t you. The entire increase in total voters of all demographics won’t be 4% let alone of just Hispanics. Maybe if you count the illegals but Democrats have assured us they aren’t allowed to cast ballots.

  1048. CG says:

    Democrats won a Senate seat in Arizona in 2018, which is something they had not done in generations. The polls are showing they could win the other one now.

    Arizona is not a great state for Trump. He has turned off many suburban Republicans. You should not take it for granted, as you seem to be willing to do.

  1049. CG says:

    But again, just going by the map, if Arizona winds up going down to the wire, Trump has already lost.

  1050. jason says:

    But the same argument applies to the Dems.

    Hillary only won MN by 1.5. If the Dems lose MN, a real possibility with a Warren or a Sanders, it will be a Trump blowout.

    To me, the election right now looks a lot like 2016, where small margins in 4 or 5 states dictate the outcome.

    But having said that, I think the map looks better for Trump now than it did in 2016. In 2016, nobody really saw MN, WI, MI, and PA as battlegrounds. FL, NC, and OH were the battlegrounds.

    I now see Trump at least a slight favorite in FL, NC and OH and the battlegrounds are MN, WI, MI and PA.

  1051. jason says:

    I think Trump could win IA again by 9. Or more, if its not Biden.

  1052. CG says:

    Predictions are for the future, but I think Trump loses MN, WI, MI, and PA vs a non-Bernie.

  1053. CG says:

    So, tariffs on agricultural products will have made Trump more popular?

  1054. jason says:

    Trump can still be competitive in other states too, depending on who the Dem candidate is. CO and NV for example.

    In any case, IA is not “teetering”.

    If anyone wants to place a bet on IA, I love easy money.

  1055. CG says:

    Lots of unknowns right now as the year begins

    I do think however Democrats will keep the House will Republicans will pick up some seats.

    I think Republicans will keep the Senate while Democrats will net at least one seat.

    Presidential race-

    25% Trump wins “bigger” than last time
    25% chance he ekes out a win
    25% he loses a close one
    25% chance he gets blown out

    Of course what will matter most is whom the Democrats nominate and how that person and their campaign perform when they are “sole target” of Trumpworld.

  1056. Phil says:

    I’m not running the Trump campaign but I’m Pretty sure the Trump campaign isn’t taking Arizona “for granted.” You must be thinking of Hillary and Wisconsin. LOL

    If this poll is the best hack Jensen at PPP can do then no, I’m not worried at all. He’s the lib who every four years puts his home state of N.C. in the Democratic column in his final poll.

  1057. CG says:

    Considering perceptions of the economy, this election (as a reelection) should be slam dunk for a normal Republican and would be if not for Trump.

    Considering how divisive and unpopular Trump largely is, this election should be a slam dunk for Democrats if they were smarter and less divided.

    Both parties are lucky they have each other.

  1058. jason says:

    No, tariffs are a negative, but do you think IA hog farmers are in favor of “meatless Fridays” and all the other anti-business, higher tax and more regulation rhetoric?

    And let’s not forget, tariffs were the banner of the Dems for decades.

    I hate tariffs. Still voting for Trump. A lot of other people will too.

  1059. jason says:

    Considering perceptions of the economy, this election (as a reelection) should be slam dunk for a normal Republican and would be if not for Trump.

    Considering how divisive and unpopular Trump largely is, this election should be a slam dunk for Democrats if they were smarter and less divided”

    Hmmm….. I hate to admit it, but I mostly agree with that.

  1060. CG says:

    All sorts of people ran to embrace PPP (D) as Gospel in Arizona when they did a push poll on Jeff Flake, designed to try to get him to quit a race.

    It worked for them and the seat is now held by a Democrat (although one we hear may switch parties…!)

  1061. NYCmike says:

    “when they are “sole target” of Trumpworld.”

    -Free rent for Trump.

  1062. Phil says:

    Trump wins a relatively close race, Republicans pick up 6-10 seats in the House. Democrats net one senate seat. That’s my current prediction. In other words, as of now, I don’t see the power of any branch changing in any meaningful way…..and I’d be fine with that. R President, D House, R Senate.

  1063. NYCmike says:

    How high are the tariffs? Have they been reduced at all?

  1064. CG says:

    Things I have said previously that are apparently now agreeable or “fine.”:

    A normal Republican would have won in 2016 far easier than Trump.

    In 2018, I said I did not care that much if the Democrats took the House. The Senate was more important.

    I was called just about every name in the book for the last one.

  1065. Phil says:

    I hate tariffs. Terrible policy. I’ll be voting for Trump. The Democrats leave me no choice.

  1066. jason says:

    Buy it doesn’t change my view that the election will be similar to 2016.

    Maybe there will be changes in demographics, turnout, etc.

    But Trump has retained his base. He will certainly be more competitive in money and organization.

    Like I said, nobody who voted for him in 2016 is going to vote for a socialist. Those that hated him in 2016 will vote for the Dem.

    I just don’t see where the shift would come from to make the election very different. The suburbs, I know, but 2020 won’t be 2018, I think there will be a shift back to Rs not away from them. And the exurbs are becoming redder (and more populous).

  1067. Phil says:

    I also thought a normal Republican would have done better against Hillary. It’s why I was a big Rubio guy. However, I was dead wrong. Rubio would have piled up bigger margins in Florida, Arizona and Texas, So what. He would not have pulled in white working class voters in the Midwest who had voted Obama leading to Hillary victories in Pa, Mich, and Wisconsin.

    Trump kept HILLARY out of the WH.

  1068. jason says:

    A normal Republican would have won in 2016 far easier than Trump.”

    Repeating this drivel over and over will not make it true.

    Nobody else would have beaten Hillary in 2016. Nobody. Certainly nobody Trump trashed in the primaries including my favorite candidate Rubio.

    That is why the “normal Republican” would win easily now has that caveat. No “normal R” would have won n 2016, we would have Hillary now.

    And losing the house WAS consequential. We have had 2 years wasted. And we have this impeachment circus.

  1069. Phil says:

    Agree on the suburbs. Trump will do at least as well in the suburbs as he did in 2016 and perhaps a bit better. Suburbanites like what they see in their 401K statements.

  1070. jason says:

    Hillary would have beat hapless Jeb in a landslide. Kasich too. Rubio would have been closer but would still have lost.

    I didn’t like Trump. I didn’t vote for him.

    But I have no trouble admitting that only he could have won.

  1071. CG says:

    The actual exit polls from any state you want to pick tell a completely different crystal clear different story.

    Hillary lost far more than Trump won. A different Republican would have done far, far better. That is exactly what I am saying about how a different Republican President seeking reelection with the perception of a strong economy would be headed for a slam dunk win now.

    Yes, there is the possibility that Democrats could nominate someone so far to the left that those who reluctantly voted for Hillary last time will either stay home or even vote for Trump.

    However, there is also very much a possibility that significant portions of people who voted for Trump last time will upon Trump fatigue vote for the Democrat.

    It depends whom they nominate. They have a “weak bench” to start. That is what a decade of investing in nothing other than Obama Cult of Personality Worship will do. There ought to be some sort of popular Governor in their 40s or 50s early 60s from a swing state they could have put up.

    Republicans need to start thinking about future elections along the same lines.

  1072. NYCmike says:

    “A normal Republican would have won in 2016 far easier than Trump.”

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2012/10/01/debate-fun-reagan-there-you-go-again.cnn

  1073. CG says:

    1111. Did you sleep through the 2018 midterms?

  1074. CG says:

    The exit polls more than speak for themselves. Pick any state you want.

    It’s not even a close call.

  1075. Phil says:

    This isn’t a midterm election and it certainly isn’t a midterm election after the first two years of a President’s first term. I believe we all know the history of those. Ask Obama about it. I believe he won relatively easy in 2012 after losing 62 House seats in his first midterm election.

  1076. lisab says:

    25% Trump wins “bigger” than last time
    25% chance he ekes out a win
    25% he loses a close one
    25% chance he gets blown out

    ——————————-

    i predict that there is a

    25% chance the stock market goes up a lot
    25% chance that the stock market goes up a little
    25% chance that the stock market goes down a little
    25% the the stock market goes down a lot

  1077. CG says:

    Obama’s 2012 reelection win was far more competitive and closer than his initial election.

    Can Trump afford that?

    The last incumbent before that won seats in his first midterm and then improved his victory in a reelection.

    These should be historical lessons.

  1078. CG says:

    A major difference would be that Obama remained fairly popular personally even while his policies were not.

    People may say they like some of Trump’s policies but he remains very unpopular personally.

    What is the biggest driver of voter turnout?

  1079. Phil says:

    If you want to project a presidential election on the basis of a prior midterm election than go for it. I might remind you that none of the Democrats who won their seats in suburban districts in 2018 midterms ran any where near as far left as are all the Democratic Presidential candidates in 2020. Quite the opposite. That’s a fact. I saw the 2016 ads they ran here in Texas as well as in other states. If you think that doesn’t matter you are fooling yourself.

  1080. CG says:

    The positioning of candidates is certainly something to keep in mind, but it is impossible to ignore that the suburbs are getting less Republican and this is being exacerbated tremendously by Trump.

    Now, the Democrats could nominate someone like Bernie or Warren, whom have a ton of baggage, or it could be someone else. General elections are long and they can etch a sketch many things from the primary away.

    People by and large do not associate Biden with being “far-left.”

    Irregardless, the election will be a referendum on Trump. He is the incumbent. Last time, Hillary was “closer” to being the functional incumbent and her party was seeking a third win a row.

    This time, it will be more about Trump while of course the quality of opponent matters too.

    Trump does not have good re-elect baseline numbers. It is hard to get past that. Maybe something will change, but people have been saying this about Trump since 2015.

  1081. NYCmike says:

    “CG” makes me think of this scene

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKnz-YMVWwI

  1082. CG says:

    I’ve not seen that movie, but Trump apologists like NYC remind me of this scene:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKnX5wci404

  1083. Phil says:

    Yeah, quality of the opponent does matter…. and that’s a problem for Joe. Quite a dilemma for the Democrats. Nominate Joe who is anything but a quality candidate or go with one of the other hard left socialists. I wouldn’t start throwing any victory parties if I were you just yet. The Jennifer Rubins, Max Boots, Nicole Wallaces, Morning Joes, Ana Navaros, and the rest of your Never Trumpers did that once before.

  1084. JohnQPublic says:

    CG, please go away. Your never-Trumpism is tedious and stale. You’re a hapless and hopeless bootlicker for Mitt & the feckless GOP establishment. 45 is the enemy of my enemy (Dems) so he gets my vote.

  1085. CG says:

    Funny, I wasn’t invited.

    Let me know when you guys have your “We Just Built a Wall” Party catered by Taco Bell.

  1086. NYCmike says:

    Was that the same type of missile that Trump used on salami?

  1087. NYCmike says:

    “CG”,

    You haven’t seen One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest?

    Wow!

    How old are you again?

  1088. Tom says:

    I love it. “Iran launched missiles paid for by the Barack administration.” Campaign ad writes itself.

  1089. Phil says:

    Trump is stronger with the R base than even he was in 2016. Wes, Jason, San Diego are on board this time. Evan McMullet isn’t draining votes from the R side…..no matter how hard the Never Trumpers have pushed and pulled.

  1090. lisab says:

    corey has shared his political insight

    trump might win

    and

    trump might lose

  1091. JohnQPublic says:

    Total bs to say a typical establishment GOP hack would have beaten Hillary in ’16. None of them connected w/ working class folk in Oh, MI, WI, and PA. Some of those hacks (i.e. Rubio) look even worse now. He was on Hannity last night and looked like a punk coming off a weeklong bender. Trump is flawed but he takes no prisoners – which explains his success.

  1092. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1134. “trump might win and trump might lose”

    Agree with that prediction 100%.

    Regarding which alternative — at this point it is a coin flip.

  1093. lisab says:

    Qasem Soleimani now tops democratic field

  1094. lisab says:

    sdc,

    i think you missed the brilliance …

    corey said he might win by a lot or he might win by a little

    and he might lose by a lot or lose by a little

  1095. PresidentPaul! says:

    Rand Paul: “You’d Have To Be Brain Dead” To Think Soleimani’s Death Would ‘Deter’ Iran

    During the Monday interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, Paul said that “the administration, mainly at (former national security adviser) John Bolton’s behest, tore up the Iran agreement, placed a significant and severe embargo on Iran and then killed one of their major generals.”

    “Nobody in their right mind would actually think that would lead to negotiation.”

    He further called the Republican line on Soleimani — that his assassination was justified merely because he was “an evil bastard” tantamount to thinking like “grade-school children”.

    Paul has also argued this week that the assassination of Gen. Soleimani was ultimately “an act of war” that required Congressional authorization.

  1096. PresidentPaul! says:

    Impeaching Trump for killing Soleimani would have been a reasonable course of action.

    Impeaching Trump for investigating crooked Joe Biden is just another democrat Hoax.

  1097. PresidentPaul! says:

    https://www.kitco.com/charts/livepalladium.html

    Palladium bull charges past the gold bull.

  1098. Tina says:

    Iran refuses to hand over black box of Ukrainian commercial airliner. Also, a warhead was found nearby.

    Hmmm..

  1099. PresidentPaul! says:

    Rand has stated that Trump lacked constitutional authority to murder Qasem Soleimani?

    Why are the Democrats are liars basically.

    They supported Barack obama’s right to drone bomb American citizens.

    What a worthless party.

  1100. PresidentPaul! says:

    Obama illegally authorized the murder of a 16 year old US citizen

    Kassam: Democrats Supported Obama Killing Americans With Drones, But Take Issue With Trump Killing “Terrorists”
    But what did Democrats say when President Obama used his executive powers to strike (and kill) U.S. citizens in Yemen in 2011, including a 16-year-old boy?
    Democratic Sens. Ron Wyden of Oregon, Mark Udall of Colorado, and Martin Heinrich of New Mexico said in a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder that the use of force was “legitimate use of the authority granted to the president.”
    They said Obama had met the legal standard.
    These three senators were part of the Senate Select Intelligence Committee. They went on to describe the killing of terror leader Anwar al-Awlaki:

  1101. Tina says:

    What a pos mike Lee is.

    He is an open borders wacko.

    All should vote against his foreign workers first bill.

  1102. PresidentPaul! says:

    More Fake News
    TV pundits praising Suleimani assassination neglect to disclose ties to arms industry
    SINCE FRIDAY, a loud chorus of voices has appeared in the media to celebrate President Donald Trump’s decision to assassinate Iranian Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani, a move that has sparked renewed tension in the Middle East, a new deployment of U.S. forces, and predictions of increased military spending.
    Many of the pundits who appeared on national television or were quoted in major publications to praise the president’s actions have undisclosed ties to the defense industry — the only domestic industry that stands to gain

  1103. jason says:

    Bunu, go back to Stormfront.

    Or GFY.

  1104. PresidentPaul! says:

    Rand needs to start calling this thing Trump’s assassination because this word calls attention to the illegality of the act.

    “Hawks want to make it easier for the U.S. to use force, so they need to pretend that every use of force is justified”

  1105. jason says:

    However, there is also very much a possibility that significant portions of people who voted for Trump last time will upon Trump fatigue vote for the Democrat.”

    Does anyone know ONE such person? I don’t, and I haven’t met anyone who knows of such a person.

  1106. jason says:

    Bunu never met a terrorist he didn’t like.

  1107. jason says:

    Rand Paul needs to resign and spend time with his family.

  1108. PresidentPaul! says:

    Democrats oblivious as usual

    We are 47 minutes into this Warren town hall, her first since the Souleiman killing, and no one has asked about it. Klobuchar got no Qs about it, Sanders got two over two days. Just not dominating as an issue yet.

  1109. jason says:

    Where is NYC?

    I am sure he is going to join Bunu in praising Rand Paul.

  1110. PresidentPaul! says:

    “General Suleimani was indisputably an enemy of the American people” – NYT

    The Fake News rolls on

  1111. PresidentPaul! says:

    Crisis initiation and how the president can get us to war with Iran
    Revisiting neocon Pat Clawson’s infamous remarks at WINEP can be useful from time to time

    “We couldn’t get into Vietnam we had to ‘wait’ for the gulf of Tonkin”

  1112. PresidentPaul! says:

    US media smeared the anti-war candidate Tulsi Gabbord and replaced her with Bernie the idiot and Biden the demented

    Naveed Jamali, author of a slanderous, evidence-free smear of Tulsi Gabbard, falsely identifies as an ex-“FBI double agent.” I perused his (ghostwritten) book and it’s clear he was at best a dangle. He was never an agent & only got this little league certificate for his bit part.

  1113. mRviTO says:

    The general was on a diplomatic mission to Alderan.

  1114. darthVito says:

    If it was a consular trip, then where were the ambassadors?

  1115. PresidentPaul! says:

    Silence Neoliberal!

    https://i.redd.it/300jd9uoj3e31.jpg

  1116. jason says:

    Bunu, go back to Infowars or whatever cesspool you were at.

    Nobody cares about your hate America crap.

  1117. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Nikki Haley said it best:

    “HALEY: Well, and I will tell you this. You don’t see anyone standing up for Iran.

    You’re not hearing any of the Gulf members. You’re not hearing China. You’re not hearing Russia. The only ones that are mourning the loss of Soleimani are our Democrat leadership, and our Democrat presidential candidates.

    HANNITY: That is sad.

    HALEY: No one else in the world, because they knew that this man had evil veins. They knew what he was capable of. And they saw the destruction and the lives lost based from his hands.”

    Trump was often referred to as a paper tiger because he did not respond to repeated Iranian provocations. Taking out Soleimani was a brilliant move. It is the first time an American president has militarily responded to Iranian provocation; the Iranians are in shock.

  1118. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1164. Trump’s decisiveness has reduced Bunu to incoherent rambling — it may become a form of post traumatic stress disorder.

  1119. PresidentPaul! says:

    Catholic Church Shields $2 Billion in Assets to Limit Abuse Payouts
    “The Catholic Church has behaved like a business. It hasn’t behaved like a religion that lives by the rules it espouses.”

  1120. NYCmike says:

    “1164. Trump’s decisiveness has reduced Bunu to incoherent rambling — it may become a form of post traumatic stress disorder.”

    -You could say that again!

    He is speaking fluent Gibberish!

  1121. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Maybe Pelosi and Bunu can form a support group. It would consist of people who were the victims of Trump. They could commiserate how badly the great meanie damaged their mental well-being. Mueller could join also.

  1122. Tina says:

    And the jebots…

    You’re not hearing any of the Gulf members. You’re not hearing China. You’re not hearing Russia. The only ones that are mourning the loss of Soleimani are our Democrat leadership, and our Democrat presidential candidates.

    HANNITY

  1123. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    From CNN:

    “Top Iraqi Shia cleric calls for his militias to stand down
    From CNN’s Mitchell McCluskey and Salma Abdelaziz
    “Iraq’s leading Shia cleric Muqtada al-Sadr called for his militias to stand down on Wednesday night, following President Trump’s address in which he urged for de-escalation in the region.

    “This crisis is over, especially after Trump’s speech and the Islamic Republic’s speech,” al-Sadr said in a statement posted on Twitter.”

    The bottom line is Trump saved future American service members for death and injury by taking decisive action against the terrorist Soleimani.

  1124. NYCmike says:

    SDC,

    I am trying to find the article I read about what Trump’s reasoning was behind finally getting the Salami guy…..very vell thought out, if the author has it correctly.

    Time will tell.

  1125. NYCmike says:

    https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/01/06/the-trump-doctrine-humiliates-both-foreign-enemies-and-domestic-liberals-n2558968

    -This isn’t that article I spoke of, but good nonetheless.

    I like this part, reminds me of Robbie and “CG”:

    “When the dirtbag catspaws of the dirtbag Iranian mullahs surrounded the American embassy in Baghdad, American liberals were more excited than the old Weekly Standard’s staff would have been upon discovering that it was sharing one of its cruises with a pool boy and sexy gardener convention. Libs and their Fredocon submissives were practically salivating at the thought of fellow Americans being murdered by scuzzy foreigners and the opportunity such a tragedy would present for blaming Donald Trump. This was Trump’s Benghazi test, they chortled on social media.”

  1126. Bitterlaw says:

    GFY

  1127. lisab says:

    VA to outlaw firearms “training”

  1128. lisab says:

    Man Driving Alone In Carpool Lane Informs Officer His Preferred Pronoun Is ‘They’

  1129. lisab says:

    The 5th Circuit will allow the Trump administration to transfer $3.6 billion in military construction funds to the border wall. Judges rule government is likely to win case due to the plaintiffs lacking standing.
    —————-

    ruling was on party lines

  1130. lisab says:

    Pelosi Too Busy to Take Pence’s Call…Which Was to Inform Her of Iranian Missile Attack

  1131. lisab says:

    Bill Clinton Caught In Photos On Jeffrey Epstein’s Plane With ‘Sex Slave’

    New photos published by the U.S. Sun show former President Bill Clinton standing on late sex criminal Jeffrey Epstein’s private jet, referred to as the “Lolita Express.”

    There is also a photo of Clinton standing with his arm around Chauntae Davies, referred to as a “sex slave” for Epstein by The Sun.

  1132. PresidentPaul! says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR1ol2cH-Wg

    Gundlach’s outlook podcast to his subscribers. Highly recommend a listen

  1133. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1181. VA to outlaw firearms “training”

    I am against the bill, but it contains the following exemptions:

    *”Any activity, undertaken without knowledge of or intent to cause or further a civil disorder, which is intended to teach or practice self defense or self-defense techniques such as karate clubs…”

    *”Lawful activities related to firearms instruction or training intended to teach the safe handling and use of firearms.”

    *”Lawful sports or activities related to the individual recreational use or possession of firearms.”

    The law is aimed at activities were individuals march in public with their firearms. Believe Charlottesville inspired it.

  1134. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    If Joe Biden does not get elected president, its nice to know he has potential employment:

    “The Restaurant of Mistaken Orders” is a pop-up concept born in 2017 in Tokyo from an idea by producer Shiro Oguni. As the name itself suggests, the dish you order once you sit down at a table might not be the one you end up eating – and that’s because the restaurant only staffs people living with dementia.

    * * *
    The restaurant is a stylish and fashionable place where “everything on the menu tastes delicious,” so you don’t have to worry about whether or not you’ll enjoy the mistaken order brought to you. Ever since the restaurant’s first event, staff calculated that 37% of orders are generally mistaken, but 99% of the customers “declared themselves happy,” as well as believing that this concept might really help in understanding dementia patients better.

    https://www.lonelyplanet.com/articles/restaurant-mistaken-orders-tokyo

  1135. jason says:

    I think the big risk in this case is not getting the wrong order, it’s getting no order at all and then getting the check from the big spenders at the table next to you.

  1136. jason says:

    Bunu is always ranting and raving when a terrorist dies.

    In his case, I do believe he is in mourning.

  1137. jason says:

    “A different Republican would have done far, far better.”

    I bet Corey doesn’t really believe this.

    He says “exit polls” show this to be true.

    Must be the same exit polls Lord Asshat used that showed Hillary to be an easy winner over Trump.

    If anyone here thinks Rubio, Jeb, Kasich, Christie or anyone else running in 2016 would have carried MI, WI, and PA they are smoking some good sh-t.

  1138. jason says:

    “At a press conference in Kiev, he said Tehran airport was “not a simple airport” and the pilots required several years of training to use it.”

    Dang, an airport that takes “several years of training to use it”.

  1139. Wobbles says:

    Not me. I learned how to land the crop duster at Jake Smith’s cornfield in less than 6 months, I could probably figure out Tehran in 2 years.

  1140. Bitterlaw says:

    I think Christie would have defeated Hillary, I am not smoking anything.

    GFY.

  1141. jason says:

    Grey Goose?

  1142. jason says:

    Johnny Deplorable:

    “Donald Trump has been in Politics for 3 years and is running in 2020 based off his accomplishments.

    Joe Biden has been in Politics for over 40 years and is running in 2020 based off what he wants to accomplish.”

  1143. jason says:

    Christie would not have won PA, Wi, or MI.

    Or NH for that matter.

    But I will give him credit for realizing much earlier than most that Trump was the only one that could win.

  1144. jason says:

    Huh, NJ for that matter.

  1145. Bitterlaw says:

    A-hole fight!

  1146. Bitterlaw says:

    MC(Hammer)C

  1147. Wes says:

    By 2016, after Bridgegate, Chris Christie was a toxic national figure. I’m not entirely certain he couldn’t have won because Hillary—a notoriously lazy campaigner with a grating sense of elitism and entitlement—would have been his opponent and thus given him a shot at victory. He definitely wouldn’t have been a lock to win though.

  1148. Wes says:

    Ricky Gervais calls out a bunch of sanctimonious Hillary supporters for covering up what Harvey Weinstein did:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KbqBF8FExU4

  1149. Tcga says:

    Uno
    Dos
    Cero
    Tres

    Woolly Bully
    Woolly Bully

    Hey! Wooly bully, watch it now, watch it.

  1150. Tina says:

    Looks like the hamas caucus (mullah Omar) was giggling when there was a mention of us casualties. Disgusting.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/disgusting-democrat-ilhan-omar-giggles-and-jokes-behind-liberal-colleague-discussing-us-casualties-in-iraq-video/

  1151. Tgca says:

    1200

    Can’t touch this!

  1152. Tina says:

    Trump appears to be doing better in Georgia than in 2016

    Political Polls
    @Politics_Polls
    GEORGIA
    Trump 54% (+14)
    Warren 40%
    .
    Trump 52% (+10)
    Sanders 42%
    .
    Trump 52% (+9)
    Buttigieg 43%
    .
    Trump 51% (+7)
    Biden 44%

    @MasonDixonPoll
    12/19-23
    https://realclearpolitics.com/docs/2020/Mason-Dixon_GA.pdf…
    7:46 AM · Jan 9, 2020·Twitter Web App

  1153. Tgca says:

    So Never Trumper Judge Nap, a.k.a. Eddie Munster’s great granddad, says Trump killing Iran’s General Salami was a lawless act.

    The general was not engaged in an act of violence at the time he was killed, nor were any of his companions.

    They were driving on a public highway in a van.

    He goes on to quote excerpts from an English play to justify his rationale for the unlawful act and then leaves us pondering with his final words…who will Trump kill next?

    I guess under Nap’s rationale, the Bin Laden family has recourse against Obama because Bin Laden was just sitting at home in Pakee-Stan when he was executed on Obama’s orders.

    https://www.newsmax.com/andrewnapolitano/charter/2020/01/09/id/949065/

  1154. Tina says:

    You would think that faux news would hire a judge or lawyer that knows constitutional law.

    Not a traffic court judge.

  1155. Phil says:

    Yep, Bin Ladin was just sitting in his living room not harming a soul. Obviously made that one too an illegal assassination by this moron’s logic.

    What a clown.

  1156. Joe J says:

    1206, Good. Never thought GA was in play and don’t think it will be this cycle.

    In fact, I think the battlegrounds are going to shift ever so slightly (or more depending on who the Dem nominee is) to more traditionally blue/purple states as opposed to the usual red/purple FL, NC, AZ, etc.

  1157. Tina says:

    Pretty clear from the photos it was shot down.

    There are missile fragments on the panels and the engines are intact.

    CBS This Morning
    @CBSThisMorning
    · 30m
    #BREAKING: @CBSNews has learned U.S. officials are confident that Iran shot down a Ukrainian jetliner in the hours after the Iranian missile attack on U.S. targets.

  1158. Wes says:

    Does Napolitano EVER side with the US against terrorists?

    He created some twisted logic saying Obama could kill anyone after the then-President ordered the attack on bin Laden.

    Logic doesn’t seem to be something known well to Napolitano.