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Biden Leads Democratic Field By 6% in IA

Contradicting the poll from yesterday from The New York Times showing Bernie Sanders with an 7% lead over Pete Buttigieg and an 8% lead over Joe Biden in Iowa, USA Today and Suffolk University are showing a completely different race claiming it is Joe Biden who has a 6% lead on his nearest Democratic challenger.

PRESIDENT – IOWA – DEM CAUCUS (USAT/Suffolk)
Biden 25%
Sanders 19%
Buttigieg 18%
Warren 13%
Klobuchar 6%
Everyone Else 3% or less

This poll was January 23-26 among 500 likely caucus goers.

Posted by Dave at 6:53 pm
Filed under: General | Comments (400)

400 Responses to “Biden Leads Democratic Field By 6% in IA”

  1. Tgca says:

    Uno Bebe! Uno!

  2. Victrc says:

    Put* madre tgca you beat me to it

  3. John says:

    “Kobe Bryant was a miserable SOB on and off the court.”
    Please keep your hatred to yourselves at this time.

  4. Bitterlaw says:

    He was a miserable SOB. He was an amazing basketball player. Apparently, he was a great dad. Not such a great husband. It is very sad that he died. It is tragic that his daughter died.

  5. jason says:

    That wasn’t hatred, he was just stating his opinion on the person.

  6. jason says:

    I hope that poll is wrong, I am rooting for Bernie.

  7. VictrC says:

    Jason. Seems like a rescue poll as no other poll has anything close to that

  8. lisab says:

    Why Democrats Still Have to Appeal to the Center, but Republicans Don’t

    Polarization has changed the two parties — just not in the same way.
    Source The New York Times
    18 hours ago

    In Opinion ‘Put simply,’ Ezra Klein writes, ‘ Democrats can’t win running the kinds of campaigns and deploying the kinds of tactics that succeed for Republicans .’

    Polarization has changed the two parties — just not in the same way.

    But in recent decades, the two parties have been changing, and fast. Those changes are ideological — the Democratic Party has moved left, and the Republican Party has moved right. But more fundamentally, those changes are compositional: Democrats have become more diverse, urban, young and secular, and the Republican Party has turned itself into a vehicle for whiter, older, more Christian and more rural voters.

    Let’s start with diversity. Over the past 50 years, the Democratic and Republican coalitions have sorted by ideology, race, religion, geography and psychology. Not all sorting is the same. Sorting has made Democrats more diverse and Republicans more homogeneous. This is often played as a political weakness for Democrats. They’re a collection of interest groups, a party of list makers, an endless roll call. But diversity has played a crucial role in moderating the party’s response to polarization.

    The Democratic Party’s informational ecosystem combines mainstream sources that seek objectivity, liberal sources that push partiality and even some center-right sources with excellent reputations. On any given question, liberals trust in sources that pull them left and sources that pull them toward the center, in sources oriented toward escalation and sources oriented toward moderation, in sources that root their identity in a political movement and in sources that carefully tend a reputation for being antagonistic toward political movements.

  9. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    This is REALLY, REALLY Bad News for Team Trump. The Impeachment Trial will now continue “forever”.John Bolton is a total “piece of sh-t”.

    Of course, the timing is impeccable.

    https://www.axios.com/john-bolton-book-donald-trump-ukraine-24b80e2b-4460-4550-9c2d-333b9821d5dc.html

  10. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #10
    Add: The Democrats are all over this releasing statements now that Bolton MUST testify. This is Kavanaugh Part II!

  11. Tina says:

    Magggie hack originated that story, sheeple.

  12. Phil says:

    If that’s true then:

    1) the votes will be there to have Bolton as a witness.
    2) Senate votes will now likely be there for the other three witnesses desired by the Democrats.
    3) the defense presentation over the next two days will likely be overshadowed by this news (explains the timing).
    4) this impeachment trial goes on and on with the MSM having a field day at Trump’s expense.
    5) Trump is still aquitted but likely won’t get all 53 Senate Republicans.
    6) Trump badly weakened and probably finished in November.

    All the above are predicated on sheeple’s news being true – except for numbers 2 and 3 which will occur true or not.

    Perfect timing. Kavanaugh timing all over again.

  13. Phil says:

    The Kavanaugh script to a tee. Timing is everything. Should have expected this.

  14. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #12- Tina
    I know that Mag Hag authored the story. That said, this is the Kavanaugh moment in the Impeachment saga.
    If you read the NY Times article in full, Bolton claims that Barr has lied and that Pompeo and Mulvaney know the true story.

  15. jason says:

    “MSNBC’s Sunday anchor Alison Morris made easily the worst reporting gaffe in 2020.

    While interviewing sports journalists about the tragic and untimely death of Kobe Bryant, Morris somehow mixed up the “Los Angeles Lakers” with what sounded to viewers like the “Los Angeles N*ggers.”

  16. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    The Bolton camp has released a statement, not denying the story, but claiming that the only transcript release was to the NSC/White House.
    Although the Times’ sources are hidden, the detail in the article is robust.
    I agree with Phil’s thinking in above #13.

  17. Phil says:

    If true, Pompeo and Mulvaney will be called. No way around it outside of Bolton issuing a statement denying the story. That won’t happen. Bolton wants to sell his book. My guess is the story isn’t true but the timing is such as to be able to throw the trial into chaos and at the very least wipe Trump’s defense presentation right off the map.

    Kavanaugh take two. Exact same timing and exact same script.

  18. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #18
    AG Barr has already denied Bolton’s claims about him.
    Can you imagine the “fire” this story would produce if Kobe’s sad and unfortunate passind did not occur and consume a lot of media time?

  19. Phil says:

    Don’t count on the Kolby story consuming anything, sheeple. The MSM will go with this 100% now. Book it.

  20. Tina says:

    Seems like coordination between Maggie hack and drats, to scare the Rinos.

  21. Phil says:

    Like I said, I don’t think what’s in the transcript is what is being reported. Of course, does anyone think for a second there aren’t individuals in the NSC and even in the WH that hate Trump and wouldn’t wouldn’t leak this if they could? Anyone who has been awake over the last three years would have to be brain dead to believe it could easily happen.

  22. Phil says:

    of course it is designed to scare the RINOs, however, it even scares me and I’m no RINO.

    ….and of course it is coordinated.

  23. Tina says:

    Phil, it is aimed at the Maine Chicklet, planned parenthood, and Pierre.

  24. Phil says:

    I know, Tina…but they have Romney and Collins anyway. It’s designed to get two more votes.

    You have to admit, however, the timing is brilliant….convenient but brilliant.

  25. Tina says:

    It was telling that after two hours, Quittens wanted witnesses.

    Prior to this, he said that he would decide after.

  26. jason says:

    Let’s wait for the whole story here.

  27. Phil says:

    Bolton will testify, Tina. This hatchet job report guarantees that. Just like the Kavanaugh last minute rape story threw the Kavanaugh nomination into chaos at the last minute.

    Sneaky? unethical? Dirty coordination? Sure. But it worked and it will work now.

    I hate Democrats. They are ruthless but they play to win….and they’ll do anything.

  28. Tina says:

    The leak is suspicious.

    The manuscript goes to the wh for review first. It’s executive privilege. It would not go to nsc, until after.

    I say fake news from the Queen of Fake News

  29. Tina says:

    Phill I agree and our side will bend, like usual.

  30. Phil says:

    Agree, let’s see how it all unfolds.

  31. jason says:

    Bolton would be a fool to release this kind of information, if true, for “free” before anyone buys his book.

  32. SweatyToothedMadman says:

    Phil, chill! You’re wrong – you said it worked with Kavanaugh. If it had, he wouldn’t have been confirmed.

  33. Phil says:

    Jason, Bolton didn’t release it. If it got out it was leaked by Never Trumpers in the WH. We’ve seen this movie again and again.

  34. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    We need more denials like this one:

    “Among other names Mr. Bolton referenced in the manuscript: Attorney General William P. Barr. Mr. Bolton wrote that he raised concerns with Mr. Barr about Mr. Giuliani’s influence on the president after Mr. Trump’s July 25 call with Ukraine’s president. That call was a critical piece of the whistle-blower complaint that prompted the impeachment inquiry. Mr. Barr on Sunday denied Mr. Bolton’s account through a spokeswoman.”

  35. Phil says:

    Worked in the sense that it turned a smooth confirmation of Kavanaugh into a nightmare hearing – for Kavanaugh and his family and for the country. He was cruising to a confirmation and then got confirmed by one vote. Same script here.

  36. Tina says:

    The statement again makes no sense.

    A request to look into Russian investigations does not equate to looking into Hillary or Biden.

    This is bs.

  37. jason says:

    ason, Bolton didn’t release it. If it got out it was leaked by Never Trumpers in the WH.”

    Maybe.

    And actually the timing is not that good. The best timing would be AFTER Trump’s defense and before the votes to call witnesses.

  38. Big Joe says:

    Iowa polling is all over the place. A Biden win and he can run the table (minus NH perhaps). A Bernie win means he easily takes NH which is usually a great sign historically for a Dem nominee.

    Iowa is looking very very important.

    Big Joe

  39. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Here’s a take from a liberal blogger:

    Also, read even more closely, note the word “preferred” here. That Trump “preferred” that Ukraine do something is far different than saying, as Dems allege, that Trump *conditioned* it. I don’t think Bolton is helping Dems here (what a shocker, I know). pic.twitter.com/Wi4iDJBZK0— Aaron Maté (@aaronjmate) January 27, 2020

  40. Phil says:

    ‘’A Biden win and he can run the table”

    Very possible. Maybe even probable depending on NH.

  41. jason says:

    Yeah, I noticed “preferred” too…. and what is the deal with “Russian investigation”.

  42. Tina says:

    Like I said, White House gets first crack, then nsc.

    Any cionversati9ns between Bolton and trump are privileged.

    The statement connecting Russian investigations with Biden and Hillary make no sense.

  43. Tina says:

    It could make sense to say that the obumbler Biden spied on my campaign

  44. Tina says:

    We also know that Hillary paid for the dossier.

    That is why I claim fake news

  45. jason says:

    Caucuses are notoriously hard to poll, because you don’t really know who is going to actually attend.

    If you put a gun to my head, I would say Bernie probably has the most committed voters, but also younger and less likely to go to a caucus.

  46. jason says:

    I listened to the MSNBC tape. The anchor definitely said Los Angeles Ni–ers, not “Nakers”.

    Imagine if a Fox News anchor had said that.

  47. jason says:

    If this manuscript has been around the WH for weeks, then the defense team probably knows about it and has had time to prepare for it.

  48. Phil says:

    49

    That makes sense. Can’t imagine this legal team blindsided.

  49. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    Bolton’s team indirectly confirms the accuracy of the leak by not denying the story.They blame the NSC!!! This is well coordinated.

    “Cooper continued: “A copy of my December 30 letter is attached. It is clear, regrettably, from The New York Times article published today that the prepublication review process has been corrupted and that information has been disclosed by persons other than those properly involved in reviewing the manuscript.”

    Bolton resigned last September. His team declined to “speculate” to Fox News as to how a description of his manuscript might have leaked to the Times.

    Additionally, Bolton’s representatives made clear he was not denying the Times’ claim concerning the Ukraine aid holdup and the possible investigation of the Bidens.

  50. Phil says:

    Yeah, that ain’t good.

    Sounds like Trump might have made one too many enemies. First MCCain and now Bolton with both coming back to bite him.

  51. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This reminds me of the panic attack that took place on the board in September 2018 during the Kavanaugh hearings. Will say now what I said then; wait until all the facts are out.

  52. Victrc says:

    Ok, say it’s true that Trump said I’m holding aid until they investigate this, no offense, but there appears to be a very serious problem with Biden’s son.

    If they subpoena Bolton, for sure they are going to have to bring Biden and his son is because we need to know if there was corruption with Hunter or not which justified the investigation requested.

    the American public is going ot hear, finally, all about his Million dollar a year salary in a country where $2.000 a month makes you live a good life, especially in the time frame when Burisima was being investigated, and then of course his china dealings etc

  53. Skippy says:

    https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/iowa-2020-sanders-solidifies-frontrunner-status-in-iowa-while-klobuchar-nears-viability

    Klobuchar up to 13% in Iowa. Gaining among older voters…starting to take away from Mayor Pete.

    I told you all Amy Klobuchar will get to 15% in precinct delegates on Iowa Caucus night. It’s happening.

  54. Big Joe says:

    Best play for the Bern may be to attack Warren, hold her to below 15%, and gain her supporters. Probably won’t happen but it makes plenty of sense.

    Big Joe

  55. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #53
    Agreed, but it would be nice to hear some denials from the White House, Mulvaney etc. in addition to Barr’s.

  56. Phil says:

    Notice how this didn’t come out until it was time for the Trump team to present their case.

    Absolute brilliance by the Democrats in the timing. Regardless of “the facts” the timing really blunts anything coming out of the Trump presentation over the next two days.
    Face it guys, Democrats and their MSM allies know how to play the game and they play it well. Republicans are No match. Never have been.

  57. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    57. It would be inappropriate for Bolton to comment on the contents of his book since it is currently under national security review.

  58. Phil says:

    Agree that at this point It becomes vital that Hunter Biden be called and America hear all about the corruption. Unfortunately, Lindsey Graham says he will vote against any witnesses on our side. See what I mean by one side plays to win and then there is our side. LOL

  59. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    #59- SDC
    Agreed, but that is why Bolton’s team is agressively pointing the finger at the NRC. They want to stay out of trouble.

  60. VictrC says:

    To be honest I am glad this Bolton stuff is happening now, rather than after an acquittal. That would have given the Dems a lot of fodder heading into the election about corruption. At least now its going to be addressed, dealt with and we will move on.

    I stand by the fact that the Biden’s and the whistleblower need to be heard from. This is nothing short of a coup d’etat and a concerted effort to influence the 2020 election.

    Everyone knows that this, even if it occurred, is not an event that should result in the removal of a president. It is solely meant to keep Trump from winning in 2020, though, I still see this as having the converse effect. I think it will galvanize his support.

  61. Dylan says:

    Bolton is a known neo-con axe grinder He’s the quintessential deep state operative Nothing he says is gonna move any needle

  62. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The bottom line is there still will not be enough votes to impeach, and the seediness of the process will add more support for Trump in the November election.

    Bolton was very happy that Trump took out Soleimani; he had previously been concerned that Trump had abandoned the Kurds and was was going to abandon our allies in the region. He is not going to testify in favorable manner for the Democrats whom he loathes, and who would placate the Iranians.

  63. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    For weeks now, Pelosi,Schiff,Schumer etc have stated that there was “a lot more evidence to come.”
    They knew this was coming and could have been a reason why the transfer of the articles to the Senate was delayed by a month.

  64. Phil says:

    62

    Well, I agree Hunter Biden and the whistleblower need to be called. Tell it to Lindsey Graham.

  65. Phil says:

    64

    Good point, SDC on Bolton. You’d think he’d be reluctant to want to give testimony damaging Trump and giving aid and comfort to Schumer and company and Democrats in general. After all, aren’t they likely to bring back the Iran deal which Bolton despised if they get back in the WH?

    None of this makes sense to me.

  66. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    #67
    Money is a great motivator. Bolton wants to sell books.

  67. Phil says:

    So if he makes money, he doesn’t really care if Iran gets a nuclear weapon? Hard to believe that. Besides, he isn’t going to make much on this book anyway. Doubt this is about money.

    BTW, I remember Democrats in the Senate voting as a block to block Bolton’s nomination as UN Ambassador during the Bush Administration. Now he’s going to do Chuckie and the libs a solid? Kind of hard to believe if you ask me.

  68. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    #69
    Just this morning, I thought about the toxic way Bolton,especially by Biden, was treated when Bush 45 nominated him for UN Ambassador.
    Republicans like being punching bags. Look at the instant forgiveness Murkowski and Collins gave the House impeachment managers after all Republicans were called traitors and rubes.
    As you say, the Democrats play to win.

  69. VictrC says:

    I agree with Jason, let’s wait for it all to come out.

    I am sure that they released the best of what they had today, and to be frank, if that is all the book said, then they really have nothing.

    I also agree that for Bolton the worst thing that could happen is for a Dem to become President as they are the antithesis of what he believes in foreign policy. He absolutely abhors the Dems.

    Kavanaugh is sitting on the bench. Trump won’t be removed. I believe that this may even come back to hurt the Dems in the long run. Americans are getting sick of these dirty tricks they are pulling. This might play in NYC and CA, but I don’t know how it plays with the blue collar voter in PA, MI and WI.

  70. Tgca says:

    Bolton is not going to make tons on this book. Most folks don’t know who he is and most folks don’t buy books from policy staff. If he goes in and sinks Trump, he will sink himself worse, and he opens the doors to sink Biden as well. I just don’t see him being that dumb. Imagine if this caused Trump to lose the election, Bolton would be as welcomed in the GOP as a bad case of genital herpes.

    Also, I doubt Barr would lie about anything to protect Trump or anyone knowing all the spotlight on these issues. He has a long respected and distinguished career, whereas, Bolton has been known to be difficult within those that follow politics, and he’s trying to sell a book like many in DC do after they’re out of power.

    I think as usual, some here are over-reacting without seeing all the info. This is a cycle here where some go off the deep end every time some negative news comes out. Get on some meds dammit!!!

  71. michael corleone says:

    Can someone explain to me why a quid pro quo is wrong even if there was one? Biden’s son engaged in prima facie corrupt behavior. The President could not trust the DOJ careerists to investigate fairly any matter touching a high profile Dem, as the entire civil servant leadership has proven corrupt and willing to lie to courts and manufacture evidence to harm Trump associates.

    The corrupt activity of Hunter took place in Ukraine. Trump has an obligation to investigate corruption under treaty obligations and may condition aid on foreign actors’ behavior pursuant to his Article II powers.

    The only way ANYONE would ever get information about Biden’s corrupt behavior would be from the Ukraine, and one of the only pieces of leverage to get the Ukrainians to provide such information would be to withhold aid. So I don’t see an issue here at all – and we know if the shoe was on the other foot and DJT’s son engaged in similar behavior, the MSM would be demanding the President withhold aid in order to get information.

    This is very different from Trump cold calling a foreign adversary to get information on an opponent, which is how Schiff makes it sound. But we know only the Ds did that — see Steele dossier.

    The point is no one gives a s__ about this story and certainly don’t think we should impeach the President because Biden was corrupt.

  72. jason says:

    Anyone think Trump will be convicted can make a fortune at Predictit…

    Odds are 92% no, 8% yes. It actually dropped from 9% to 8% in the last hour.

  73. Tgca says:

    The GOP is not sitting back idle on the impeachment. They are taking the right route and not being hysterical and blatantly overtly histrionic as the Dems were because the GOP thinks this will contrast them with the Dems lunacy, and make them look more calm and adult-like to indies.

    Also, Collins and Murkowski are just trying to show they’re being open-minded and well aware that the Dems are slime so I don’t see this as anymore than them trying to show they take the higher road. My gut tells me they already know how they will vote. Now Mitt is another story. He wants to just be relevant and playing like Mac used to do to get favoritism and attention from the MSM and Dems but will also end up being a useful idiot because they will trash and discard him like they did Mac later but it probably feels good for the moment so Mitt can’t help himself.

    Mitch McConnell plays to win and generally outwits the Dems on most days so again, I would not fret over this unless a real bombshell appears later.

  74. lisab says:

    Hillary Clinton slams Mark Zuckerberg as ‘Trumpian’ and ‘authoritarian,’ says Facebook ‘intends’ to reelect Trump

  75. Phil says:

    My question, who are the eight percent? Would love to meet them. They are probably going heavy on the Orioles to win the WS next season too.

  76. lisab says:

    apparently the quote is”

    President Trump told his national security adviser in August that he wanted to continue freezing $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine until officials there helped with investigations into Democrats including the Bidens, …

    because the president had evidence Kolomosiky, a Ukrainian oligarch, connected to Burisma, Hunter Biden and PrivatBank responsible for billions in missing Obama backed IMF Aid, was donating to and influencing Zelensky.

  77. lisab says:

    the second paragraph is being omitted from most of the reports

  78. jason says:

    because the president had evidence Kolomosiky, a Ukrainian oligarch, connected to Burisma, Hunter Biden and PrivatBank responsible for billions in missing Obama backed IMF Aid, was donating to and influencing Zelensky.”

    Sounds like corruption to me…..

  79. Tina says:

    “Stormy Bolton Omarossa.”

  80. Phil says:

    Sounds like corruption to me too.

    Too bad Lindsey Graham and his Republican pals in the Senate are determined to protect the Biden’s by leaving Hunter Biden off the witness list. Love the Republican strategy here. God, what a bunch of stupid wimps.

  81. Tina says:

    Goober has been goobering for a while.

    He has promised to haul all sorts of people in.

    He publicly complemented Schiffty on his “presentation”

    Drats call Rs traitors and other names, and they just take it.

  82. PresidentPaul! says:

    More Bush war crimes coming to light.

    CIA Waterboarding Architect Confirms Sadistic Role Of ‘The Preacher’

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/cia-waterboarding-architect-confirms-sadistic-role-preacher

  83. jason says:

    Drudge is not only anti-Trump, it is pro-Bernie.

    Go figure.

  84. jason says:

    I support waterboarding for terrorists.

    Don’t you, Bunu?

  85. Phil says:

    Hope he helps Bernie secure the nomination.

  86. PresidentPaul! says:

    I don’t believe the government should be able to use the designation of “terrorist” or “terrorist organizations” actually.

  87. Phil says:

    What a shock.

  88. PresidentPaul! says:

    Possibly rumor but wuhan officials may have held a mass buffet for 40k after the virus started…

  89. GF says:

    55- But, is it real, and is it happening?

    I forgot, who was the excitable poster who used to use that phrase? And wasn’t that about McDaniel unseating Cochran in MS?

  90. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    78.” apparently the quote is”

    President Trump told his national security adviser in August that he wanted to continue freezing $391 million in security assistance to Ukraine until officials there helped with investigations into Democrats including the Bidens, …

    because the president had evidence Kolomosiky, a Ukrainian oligarch, connected to Burisma, Hunter Biden and PrivatBank responsible for billions in missing Obama backed IMF Aid, was donating to and influencing Zelensky.”

    Lisab, do you have verification for the second part of the quote? It is damming if it is true. If it is correct, Biden may be out of the race, and Trump was correct to withhold aid. I had had a feeling that Bolton was gaming the Democrats. Will see if this did in fact happen.

  91. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    As for the Bolton story, last night after the NY Times article was published, Bolton’s team set-up the Amazon page for his new book.

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1221646196705378304

    The book’s cover looks like a toilet bowl cover.

    Additionally, Bolton’s advisors are the same ones James Comey used.

    IMHO, the leak came from Bolton’s team and not the NSC. Is there a legal issue with that?

  92. PresidentPaul! says:

    https://news.yahoo.com/proposed-hong-kong-virus-quarantine-building-firebombed-during-135157233.html

    Proposed Hong Kong virus quarantine building firebombed during protest

  93. PresidentPaul! says:

    Get ready to invade Iran!

    Woke wonk Elizabeth Warren’s foreign policy team is stacked with pro-war extremists

    With her new list of foreign policy advisors, Warren unveiled a cast of pro-war think tankers, Cold Warriors and corporate careerists united in support of the Beltway consensus. So much for “big, structural change.”

  94. PresidentPaul! says:

    You’d have to be an idiot to actually be paying on any student loans right now. Even if there is a 10% chance that all of it is forgiven, you would be kicking yourself for wasting all your money on paying it off if that happens.

  95. PresidentPaul! says:

    9-14 day incubation period for this corono so likely there are people all over the world infected with this thing right now.

  96. Big Joe says:

    Apple and Tesla among big names to announce earnings this week. Will the rally continue, stall, or are we headed down. It is still the economy stupid, so this could be a telling week.

    Big Joe

  97. PresidentPaul! says:

    The Neocons strike back!

    BOLTON: Trump Tied Ukraine Aid to Inquiries on Biden…

    Remember the snake speech during the campaign. Why did Trump hire the snake?

  98. Messy says:

    26. It doesn’t matter why or who leaked the material. All the publishers need do is to say that it’s real. They can denounce the leaker to high heaven if they want to. So can Bolton and Fox News. no one would blame them for doing so.

    But Trump has denounced BOLTON for saying what he allegedly said, not the Times for making it up. That should tell you all you need to know!

    The one thing I”m afraid of is that Pence would wipe the floor with Sanders.

  99. jason says:

    Messy Moron hasn’t been back seen she said Robertz would be voting with the Democrats.

    Maybe she was reading up a little before saying something stupid again.

    Nahh…

  100. jason says:

    on’t believe the government should be able to use the designation of “terrorist” or “terrorist organizations” actually”

    Of course not, they are your friends…

  101. Tina says:

    Will the Rino losses call for gossipblower and Schiff to appear as witnesses.

    I earned you that without a dismissal, the Rinos would back stab.

  102. PresidentPaul! says:

    #100 Seems to be risk off.

  103. jason says:

    Bonchie at Redstate thinks the Bolton quotes are being taken out of context,’

    “You want to know how I know this isn’t that big of a deal? Because the Times chose not to actually quote the manuscript directly. That tells you a lot about what is or isn’t actually in it given that the Times felt they needed to keep a certain level of ambiguity to maintain their narrative.”

  104. jason says:

    The problem with dismissal was there weren’t 51 votes to dismiss. So it was moot.

  105. jason says:

    Also, according to the Redstate article:

    “What appears to have happened is that Trump told Bolton that he preferred to not send the aid to Ukraine until they turned over materials dealing with the Russia investigation. Let me repeat that: the Russia investigation.

    While the Times then desperately tries to tie that to Biden to push the favored political narrative, it’s clear by how this is written that there’s no actual mention of politically targeting the Bidens. If that were in the manuscript, they would not have left it so ambiguous.”

  106. Tina says:

    They also report that he has sent the manuscript to several players.

    Bolton disputes this.

    I have a feeling this is b.s. with the timing.

    Bit Rinos don’t care about the rule of law.

  107. jason says:

    The Russia Investigation is separate from Burisma. It relates to Biden and Hillary’s involvement in anti-Trump activities in the Ukraine for the 2016 election.

    After all, the Dems are all about investigating “interference in 2016” right?

  108. jason says:

    Maybe the defense will address this today. Let’s see.

    As I wrote above, I am not sure the timing of this was that great. The shock value had to compete with Kobe’s death. And if this was released right after the defense made their case, it would have put more pressure on R senators to vote for witnesses.

    Now there will be a couple days to get to the bottom of it.

    You can bet it was presented in the most damaging way to Trump, but there is probably more to this.

  109. Sheeple, Jr. says:

    #102- Messy The Moron
    This is who the Bolton team is appealing to to purchase the Book. Messy–have you bought it yet at the full retail price?
    By the way, you are fibbing again. In a tweet, Trump firmly denies what Bolton said. How is that inculpatory against The Donald?

    Lastly, Fiona Hill was Bolton’s top Deputy. Why was this never mentioned in her deposition and testimony? As far as I know, Bolton has ZERO corroboration for what was said.

  110. Big Joe says:

    So Tina, what are we doing in today’s market? Sitting on cash? I’d love a 10% correction, cash has been building up. I’ll DCA a little bit (Dollar Cost Average) but would rather throw in lump sums at the right prices.

    Big Joe

  111. Tina says:

    Big Joe, I a, retired, so I don’t buy as much as I used to.

    I think the corona virus is the excuse for any sell offs.

    Btw, a great time to refinance if needed.

  112. Tina says:

    It’s well past time for Trump to enforce a travel ban on China re the corona virus.

  113. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    There is a lot of sadness in this write-up about the head-to-heads in the new Washington Post/ABC Poll showing dramatic movement toward Trump since their last poll.

    https://www.langerresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/1210a32020GeneralElection.pdf

  114. PresidentPaul! says:

    I sold a decent amount on friday. Think I’ll sell a bit more today and buy some more gold…

  115. Tina says:

    Looks like Rasmussen will have trump at or over 50 today, based on their tweet.

  116. jason says:

    “It’s well past time for Trump to enforce a travel ban on China re the corona virus.”

    Corey will call it a “Muslim Ban” in 3, 2, 1…

  117. jason says:

    Betting markets were unmoved by the “bombshell”.

    Zero R senators to vote to convict still at 73%.

  118. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    #121-Tina
    Rasmussen(less) Poll: 50/49 approval/disapproval. The Intensity Index is -0-.

  119. Hugh says:

    The Bolton impact will not change the end result but getting there will no be much more difficult. Very depressing I wanted this to end and it would have by end of week without this. The dems having the media in their hip pocket makes everything so unbelievably unfair.

  120. PresidentPaul! says:

    You think the NeverTrumpers will go all out for Bernie for president to defeat their nemesis Trump?

  121. Tina says:

    Translated Goober, let all Drat witnesses in.

    Lindsey Graham
    @LindseyGrahamSC
    ·
    29m
    If there is a desire and decision by the Senate to call Democratic witnesses, then at a minimum the Senate should allow President
    @realDonaldTrump
    to call all relevant witnesses he has requested.

  122. Big Joe says:

    “Btw, a great time to refinance if needed.”

    #117- Yeah refinance to a low rate, cash out a chunk, invest it all LOL. Good long term strategy, very risky short-term though. We could go down 20%-40% and it wouldn’t really be abnormal.

    #120- Bunu, I’ve been selling too. But I’m skeptical of gold. Seems there are a lot of gold pushers out there and I question their motives. I’d rather evaluate individual stocks based on return on capital and earnings yield. But that’s time consuming and requires constant monitoring.

    Big Joe

  123. jason says:

    The “fake progressive” is smarter than the fake conservative.

    Who knew?

    Me.

  124. jason says:

    I can see Bunu venturing out into the deserted streets in the midst of the flu epidemid, wearing a face mask, begging people to trade a gold coin for a can of tuna.

  125. Tina says:

    Big joe, I meant solely rate and term refinance, on another note, if neeedd.

    I dont believe in cash out refinancing

  126. jason says:

    Gold is for suckers.

    The poor bastards that have been holding gold for decades looking for a way to cut their losses are unloading it onto the Bunus.

    The time to sell gold is now, not to buy.

  127. Tina says:

    While Bolton, like other so called neocons, have been wrong, I do not think he would leak a passage.

    If he is called as a witness (queuing Pierre Detestsble), his entire book needs to be turned over.

    He would lose $.

  128. Tina says:

    I am surprised that a house R does not just leak this.

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    8m
    Schiff must release the IG report, without changes or tampering, which is said to be yet further exoneration of the Impeachment Hoax. He refuses to give it. Does it link him to Whistleblower? Why is he so adamant?

  129. Big Joe says:

    “Who knew?

    Me.”

    You are a wise man, Jason. 😀

    Big Joe

  130. jason says:

    Morons who bought gold in 2012 for $1790 an oz are ecstatic to sell it to Bunu for $1560 now, after years in the $1000-$1300 wilderness.

  131. jason says:

    Big Joe, don’t get too much of a big head being smarter than Bunu….?

  132. jason says:

    Ok, so I don’t know how to do a smiley face.. sue me.

  133. Big Joe says:

    #131- Tina:
    “I dont believe in cash out refinancing”

    Agreed. It’s irresponsible. Yet it’s happening. I fear the market has entered “irrational” territory and a major correction is inevitable. Just not sure if it will correct from $30,000 to $27,000 or $40,000 to $36,000. This is a tough one right now.

    Big Joe

  134. jason says:

    am surprised that a house R does not just leak this.”

    Maybe the defense is just waiting for the opportunity.

  135. Big Joe says:

    “Big Joe, don’t get too much of a big head being smarter than Bunu….?”

    I still haven’t fully recovered from being denied entry into the A-hole club. So I’ll take the small victories 😀 😀 😀 😀 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 😛

    Big Joe

  136. jason says:

    Big Joe is putting dollar signs in front of the Dow Index?

    Give the man a cup of coffee.

  137. Tina says:

    In summer of Last year, I did a gnma fund, big joe.

    Felt that rates were too high. It has done ok.

    It’s been several years since I invested in stocks though,

  138. jason says:

    If it not that you were denied.

    It is just that there is no room for more A-holes at the moment, it is a tight fit as it is.

    We could certainly entertain your application should we be able to wedge another A-hole in, especially since we are trying to be more diverse.

    We certainly don’t have any “fake progressives” yet.

  139. Phil says:

    Hmmmm.

    Looks like you can add two or three weeks to this so called trial.

    Based on Graham’s tweet he seems resigned to Democrats now getting ALL of their witnesses. At least he is now realistic enough to know he can’t get away with his original idea to block any witnesses from the Trump side. Trump will get all of his now. No way rank in file Republicans will settle for anything less. It’s now the circus Democrats wanted just like the Kavanaugh hearing. No way around it. All this will add a couple of weeks at a minimum to the trial.

    It’s nuclear war on both sides. Not responding with our own witnesses would be equivalent to the Soviet Union launching a nuclear strike on the US and our nukes being ordered to stand down. Senate Republicans like Graham may not have wanted to unleash witnesses, but they have no choice now. No way the Republican base will stand by and let Schiff have it one sided on witnesses – unacceptable in a Republican Senate.

  140. Big Joe says:

    “It is just that there is no room for more A-holes at the moment, it is a tight fit as it is.”

    Uhhh… I’m good.

    Big Joe

  141. Phil says:

    So Bunu says he opposes the government labeling any individual or group as “terrorist”

    I’m so sick of his crap on here. He makes Omar look like a moderate.

  142. Tina says:

    Well Phil, it’s acceptable, if the Rinos have dirty laundry regarding the Russian Hoax and Ukraine.

    I am sure they had relatives do the sa,e thing as crack rock Biden.

  143. Phil says:

    It’s not acceptable to me, Tina and I know not to you as well….and to the 90 percent plus of Republicans who are tired of seeing our elected Republicans constantly try to “fight” with one hand tied behind their back.

  144. jason says:

    Well, Trump will invoke executive privilege so maybe we will only get the Republican witnesses.

    I am somewhat surprised nobody at the NSC has yet come forward to dispute some of these partisan hacks that testified for the Dems. Could they all be Democrat holdovers from Obama. If so, it was a serious mistake not to make changes.

    Vindaman’s brother is in charge of reviewing Bolton’s book? Really?

  145. jason says:

    Let’s no panic yet.

    Who is the 4th vote for witnesses, even admitting Murkowski, Scumbag Romney and Collins will vote for them?

    Alexander? He might still want to live in TN after he retires.

  146. jason says:

    Not panic.

  147. Phil says:

    Vindaman’s brother is in charge of reviewing Bolten’s book?

    Jason, please tell me you got that from the Babylonian Bee.

  148. jason says:

    Let’s see what case the defense makes today and tomorrow.

    That is more important than what the MSM says.

  149. Phil says:

    Agree. The case the defense makes is the thing to watch here.

  150. Tina says:

    Pierre Detestable back at it:

    Quote Tweet

    Geoff Bennett
    @GeoffRBennett
    · 25m
    NEWS: Romney says it’s “increasingly likely” that there will be enough Republicans to vote in support of calling John Bolton as a witness. He wouldn’t say specifically who.

  151. Tina says:

    Anyone not predict this?

    Rinos going all in for dr at witnesses.

    No requests for gossip blower and Schifty .

    No concern for the rule of law.

    No concern about being called names by the house managers

    All ready to comply..

  152. jason says:

    Pretty measure response, for Trump. However, Giuliani lit into Bolton a lot harder.

    “I NEVER told John Bolton that the aid to Ukraine was tied to investigations into Democrats, including the Bidens. In fact, he never complained about this at the time of his very public termination,” the president tweeted. “If John Bolton said this, it was only to sell a book. With that being said, the transcripts of my calls with President Zelensky are all the proof that is needed, in addition to the fact that President Zelensky & the Foreign Minister of Ukraine said there was no pressure and no problems.

    “Additionally, I met with President Zelensky at the United Nations,” he continued. “(Democrats said I never met) and released the military aid to Ukraine without any conditions or investigations – and far ahead of schedule. I also allowed Ukraine to purchase Javelin anti-tank missiles. My Administration has done far more than the previous Administration.”

  153. PresidentPaul! says:

    TBH Trump kinda deserves all of this for appointing John Bolton in the first place.

  154. DW says:

    “MSNBC’s Sunday anchor Alison Morris made easily the worst reporting gaffe in 2020.

    While interviewing sports journalists about the tragic and untimely death of Kobe Bryant, Morris somehow mixed up the “Los Angeles Lakers” with what sounded to viewers like the “Los Angeles N*ggers.”

    What probably happened here is the journalist has only a loose knowledge of NBA team names, specifically the ones in the big markets on the east coast and a few on the left coast. While the phrase was being spoken, After “Los Angeles” was said, “Knicks” came to mind but while saying “Kni-” she realized that was wrong and it was the Lakers, so she tried to fix it and said “-kers” which together came out as “knikers” and with the starting k being silent and the middle k easily sounding similar to a g, it was a very unfortunate gaffe.

  155. PresidentPaul! says:

    ” We could go down 20%-40% ”

    That would be recession level. I think pullback maybe a prolonged pullback but not that much.

    I’m a big believer in that we have never had a recession while the Fed is easing. We would have to have tightening to have that much of a pullback and I’m certainly not selling everything.

  156. jason says:

    Taking financial advice from Bunu is like taking cooking classes from Jeffrey Dahmer.

  157. Tina says:

    The Maine Chicklet wants Bolton now.

    So, it’s Pierre ans Chicklet and planned parenthood.

    I warned about the “only” witnesses they “wanted.”

  158. jason says:

    John Kerry admits what we all knew…

    “John Kerry on Ukrainian Prosecutor Viktor Shokin’s ousting: “I know what happened with respect to that crooked prosecutor in Ukraine because all of us in the Obama administration were making the calls & telling them he’s got to go… Joe Biden just happened to be capable.”

  159. dblaikie says:

    Another nothing burger. It is in the transcript of the call. Trump was concerned about corruption in Ukraine and suspected the Biden’s were involved.

    However witnesses don’t scare me. If Pierre has his way bring them on. All of them.

  160. SweatyToothedMadman says:

    Phil, you claimed yesterday that Kavanaugh’s nomination was going “smoothly” before last-minute chaos. NO SCOTUS nomination goes smoothly anymore – chaos or not.

  161. Phil says:

    So we get four witnesses from their side and we get none. That scares me plenty.

  162. SweatyToothedMadman says:

    Trump is to blame for his predicament in this respect: his utter failure to quickly replace Obama holdovers. Hell, the whistleblower is a Dem hack who was running around the Trump WH two years into his admin??!! Epic fail!

  163. Phil says:

    Smoothly is the sense that it was a done deal after the usual noise from Democrats on the Jusiciary Committee – and then the last minute rape allegations and all hell broke loose which meant we had to rely on one shaky Jeff Flake to get him confirmed by one vote. It changed everything.

  164. Phil says:

    168

    You are absolutely right about keeping the Obama holdovers. What a mistake!

  165. dblaikie says:

    If Bolton testifies than Biden will have to. Frankly I get tired of “the sky is falling in” kind of thinking. For goodness sake think. Senator Collins needs her GOP base to have a chance. If she votes only for Dem. witnesses she will lose her base. Please remember this whole sham is political.

    I am sure the that Trump’s lawyers will have plenty to say about all of this. So far we have only been in the wind tunnel of the media.

  166. SweatyToothedMadman says:

    171

    I concur.

  167. Phil says:

    171

    Good point about Collins needing her base forcing her to vote in favor of Trump witnesses.

  168. Tina says:

    Rinos got to rino.

    Lawless r.

  169. Tina says:

    And mitchie May have screwed the pooch.

    Clinton imoeachment allowed no new witnesses.

    While witnesses were called, they were not new ones.

  170. jason says:

    Also in Clinton trial no live witnesses, they were deposed.

  171. dblaikie says:

    I bet the same thing will happen here — if there are witnesses. They will be taken in deposition. Neither side, nor those who believe in the decorum of the Senate will allow the spectacle of live witnesses.

    One other thing to consider — if the Senate overrides executive privilege than that will open the door to people who support Trump in the Administration. Pompeo and Mulvainy need to testify if Bolton is called. So does Biden. So does Hunter. So does the whistle blower.

  172. Phil says:

    …yeah, Jason, but that was a trial. This is a circus. Not sure how Schiff got control of the Republican Senate but that’s exactly where we are.

  173. dblaikie says:

    I would offer this one crumb of comfort for the hand wringers like Tina. Today we are going to hear a ton of why Trump believed that the Bidens were involved in corruption. That has always been the Achilles heal of the Dems. If there is evidence of this the whole house of Impeachment collapses.

  174. dblaikie says:

    Schiff doesn’t have control of the Senate. Today the Trump lawyers have control. People need to take a deep breath.

  175. dblaikie says:

    One more thing, why do folks continue to treat stuff given by “anonymous sources” to the NYT as fact. How many times have they been proved as inaccurate about what is really going on?

  176. dblaikie says:

    Finally, it is my belief that at least three moderate Senators want to have a reason not to call witnesses. Today will be an interesting day.

  177. dblaikie says:

    This is interesting. Rather than calling in Bolton they will call in his manuscript. Sort of makes sense.

  178. SweatyToothedMadman says:

    179-182, correct.

    Chill, Phil.

  179. Phil says:

    Executive privilege won’t be overridden by the Senate. No way courts are going to allow executive privilege to be done away with and that’s not going to happen.

    Trump will invoke it and the Democrats will be able to claim that he’s using it to cover up. It gives them the campaign issue. That’s what all this is all about.

  180. Tina says:

    It never ends…

    Richard Baris
    @Peoples_Pundit
    ·
    5m
    John Bolton’s lawyer Chuck Cooper is an ally of Rod Rosenstein, who approved one of the illegal FISA warrants to spy on Team Trump.

    Lol.

    You cannot make this stuff up, folks.

  181. PresidentPaul! says:

    Feel the Bern

    The Hill discusses.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFMlxMgfTDM

  182. Tina says:

    And dog on station wagon

    Larry Schweikart Retweeted

    Speak out omaha
    @OmahaSpeak
    ·
    1h
    Surprise, Mitt Romney, the hated one term Massechusets Governor, the resident of California with the elevator in his home’s garage and the carpetbagger senator from Utah will do anything to harm Trump and damage the United States!

  183. Messy says:

    111. that’s the crowdstrike hoax.

    185. Not in Impeachments. US v. Nixon (1974).

  184. Messy says:

    Nadler won’t be showing up. His wife is dying. He wasn’t there when the Rules committee met last December (I was there).

  185. Tina says:

    Goober folds.

    Emma Dumain
    @Emma_Dumain
    ·
    1h
    .
    @LindseyGrahamSC
    tells reporters he might decide he needs to hear from John Bolton but underscores if they hear from Bolton they’ll have to hear from everyone — including the Bidens and the whistleblower

  186. Tina says:

    Different executive privilege claim by Nixon.

    Nixon’s was a personal claim.

    This is a national security claim (if trump goes that route).

  187. Tina says:

    Mark Meadows
    ?
    @RepMarkMeadows
    7/25: Trump/Zelensky phone call
    7/26: Volker & Taylor meet Zelensky
    8/27: Bolton meets Zelensky
    9/1: VP Pence meets Zelensky
    9/5: Sens. Johnson, Murphy meet Zelensky

    In all 5 meetings: ZERO discussion or evidence of linking aid and political investigations#GiveMeABreak

    11.2K
    4:15 AM – Jan 27, 2020

  188. dblaikie says:

    More overreacting. Graham said, “IF (I repeat if) there is a desire for the Senate to call witnesses.” “If” does not mean I want to call Bolton.

  189. Tina says:

    Quittens and goober raised the white flag.

    Goober will say, we tried and we could not get witnesses for trump, but we got Bolton. See this is a great deal because they originally wanted 5 witnesses against trump.

    (Preview of script before Pawn Hannity)

  190. Phil says:

    Tina

    LOL

    Yep. Sadly, sounds like something Republicans would try to say.

    Pathetic.

  191. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    Great polling numbers(excluding Biden) for Trump in 3…2…1… DELAWARE. Gonzales is the pollster and his polling is considered the Iowa Selzer Poll in Maryland and Delaware. Trump’s DE approval is 45%!

    https://twitter.com/mmurraypolitics/status/1221842905813352451

  192. DW says:

    I did say some time back that Trump could flip Delaware. But that doesn’t mean he holds Michigan or Wisconsin. I had pointed out that Delaware has never been as deep blue as many of the other northeastern states.

  193. PresidentPaul! says:

    Rand opposed any Bolton nominations. He warned Trump not to hire this guy.

    Trump deserves this.

  194. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    BREAKING: Denial Statement from Mick Mulvaney:

    https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/1221848531545264128/photo/1

  195. PresidentPaul! says:

    corona

  196. PresidentPaul! says:

    ‘He’s a disgruntled employee with an ax to grind’: Rand Paul opposes calling Bolton to testify

  197. PresidentPaul! says:

    How they gonna stop the Bern?

    Glenn Greenwald
    @ggreenwald

    ·
    23h
    “I think it’s outrageous that Bernie would associate himself with someone with a history of bigoted statements such as Joe Rogan. Now excuse me for my hit on the great Joy Reid’s show alongside Rick Wilson, Bill Kristol, Jen Rubin & some random CIA/FBI operative.” #Resistance

  198. NYCmike says:

    So much hyperventilating, so little time.

  199. NYCmike says:

    “Real Republicans” like Collins, Murkowski, Romney, etc should listen to the person who jason/Bitterlaw/etc call “not a Republican”.

    Once again, Rand Paul is on the mark, when it comes to Bolton and witnesses.

  200. Wes says:

    DW, Hillary won DE by the same margin as she won NJ and CT by (13%) and by only slightly less than she won RI by (14%).

    The problem Trump or any Republican will have in DE is as follows:

    Republicans control the state’s sparsely populated two southern counties while Democrats have a decisive advantage in the vote-rich nothern most county, New Castle.

    Aside from that, Christine O’Donnell did massive damage to the GOP brand in the state a decade ago in her ill-fated final Senate run. The DEGOP has been a running joke in the state ever since. There’s no significant party infrastructure, and the high black population coupled with the yuppie white liberals thriving in New Castle makes it unlikely Republicans will win anything of note in the state in the near future.

    I’m sorry, but I have to strongly disagree with your analysis on this one.

  201. Wes says:

    How are Senators Buck, O’Donnell, Mourdock, Hovde, Moore, and Morissey likely to vote, Mikey?

  202. Tina says:

    Maggie Hack walks it back:

    Maggie Haberman
    @maggieNYT
    · 2h
    Bolton left the White House on terrible terms and was not always seen as a reliable narrator by colleagues. The he said/he said of him versus Trump on tying the aid to investigations is testing that in a pronounced way.

  203. Tina says:

    Ken Starr laying into drats for sham peachment.

    It’s a bit dry, but effective,

  204. dblaikie says:

    Old Judge sure stared slow, but wow how he caught fire in the end.

  205. Tina says:

    Db, agreee, he started slow and ended with fire.

  206. Tina says:

    She slams Pierre Rino.

    Senator Kelly Loeffler
    @SenatorLoeffler
    After 2 weeks, it’s clear that Democrats have no case for impeachment. Sadly, my colleague
    @SenatorRomney
    wants to appease the left by calling witnesses who will slander the
    @realDonaldTrump
    during their 15 minutes of fame. The circus is over. It’s time to move on! #gapol

  207. Tina says:

    Puporo (sp) is just destroy8 f the drats.

  208. GF says:

    Wes, you forgot Senators Angle and Akin on that list.?

    I’m at a VA hospital and just got an enema during the sham impeachment coverage; I somehow feel that is metaphorically appropriate. Does the follow on sigmoidoscopy procedure reinstate my dormant A-Hole account?

  209. Bitterlaw says:

    GF -Once an A-hole, always an A-hole. Getting those procedures and tests is just running up the score.

    Get well soon.

    GFY

  210. Wes says:

    Akin was in my first draft of that post, GF, but I removed him in favor of Moore because Hawley holds that seat.

    As far as Angle, I didn’t put her on the list because all Republicans who ran in that primary were lightweights Reid probably would have beaten.

    I’m hoping whatever health problems triggered your enema are quickly resolved.

  211. Tina says:

    Schiffty quid pro quo has been destroyed.

  212. Tina says:

    Pierre Detestable is getting smashed:

    Sean Davis
    ?
    @seanmdav
    Real profile in courage right here. Mitt Romney says Bolton must testify, but refuses to say whether he’d also compel the testimony of the anti-Trump whistleblower, Adam Schiff, or Joe or Hunter Biden, all of whom are material witnesses. What a coward. https://thefederalist.com/2020/01/27/after-urging-bolton-testimony-romney-refuses-to-say-if-he-supports-calling-biden-schiff-whistleblower-as-witnesses/

  213. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Below is a poll of registered voters:

    National GE:
    Biden 50% (+4)
    Trump 46%

    Bloomberg 49% (+3)
    Trump 46%

    Sanders 49% (+2)
    Trump 47%

    Klobuchar 48% (+1)
    Trump 47%

    Warren 48%
    Trump 48%

    Trump 48% (+3)
    Buttigieg 45%
    @ABC/@washingtonpost, RV, 1/20-23

  214. NYCmike says:

    https://sports.yahoo.com/why-chiefs-len-dawson-was-smoking-at-halftime-of-super-bowl-i-and-how-it-became-immortalized-010008031.html

    -jason should love this picture from BEFORE football became “pussified”!

    Could you imagine the uproar if this was taken now!

  215. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

    A lot of articles this morning about the DNC collectively sh*tting their trousers over Bernie’s surge. Delicious

  216. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    From Jack Posobiec:

    Hundreds and hundreds in line outside Wildwood, NJ convention center over 30 hours before the rally.

    Democrat nightmare …

  217. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    A quote from a recent Salt Lake City Tribune article:

    “A Morning Consult poll shows an 18 percent drop of Romney’s approval rating among Republicans in the last four months of 2019 as compared to the quarter before that. And 9% of independents swung to disapproving of Romney quarter over quarter, the poll found.
    A majority of Utah Republicans still back Romney — 57% in the last four months of 2019 — but that’s down from 65% the prior quarter.
    Romney, a freshman, got a bump with Democrats late last year, with 46% of them approving of him in the fourth quarter compared to 42% the months before.”

    Religion is a major factor in political party divisions in Utah. Hillary carried the non-Mormon vote in Utah in 2016. About 2/3 of Utah voters are Mormon, and they vote heavily Republican (often 80% and over). If Romney’s poll numbers among Republicans is falling that much, he likely is losing a lot of LDS support — he is beginning to alienate his political base. Being wishy-washy on impeachment may hurt him further.

  218. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

    Wow @223. 175k RSVPs for a convention center that holds 7500

  219. Tina says:

    Jonathan Turley
    @JonathanTurley
    Philbin’s argument on obstruction is devastating for Article 2. His history of other administration’s raising the same immunity arguments is quite compelling. White I disagree with the immunity theory, this is a tight, unadorned, and persuasive case against Art. 2

    1,038
    1:02 PM – Jan 27, 2020

  220. lisab says:

    “A Morning Consult poll shows an 18 percent drop of Romney’s approval rating among Republicans in the last four months of 2019 as compared to the quarter before that.”

    i don’t think romney cares

  221. NYCmike says:

    “i don’t think romney cares”

    -Who let the dogs out?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDwwAaVmnf4

  222. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/neil-gorsuch-issues-savage-rebuke-to-activist-judges-and-nationwide-injunctions/

    -Gorsuch is a good one!

    Just to remember, MD, Author Mendez, “CG” and Robbie would have preferred Hillary picking Justices instead of Trump.

  223. lisab says:

    uh oh …

    breaking: apparently trump chose pence as vp

    when the democrats wanted him to choose john kerry

  224. dblaikie says:

    Pam Bondi is just hammering the Biden’s with a sledgehammer. I knew this would happen today.

  225. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

    Worried Democratic Operatives Scramble to Fund a Network to Take Down Bernie Sanders

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/worried-democratic-operatives-scramble-to-fund-a-network-to-take-down-bernie-sanders

  226. dblaikie says:

    If Biden survives this he is the true Teflon man!!!

  227. Hugh says:

    Biden is receiving quite a beat down. Seems to me it needed to be investigated

  228. dblaikie says:

    This is Joe Biden’s worst nightmare!!

  229. NYCmike says:

    Is anyone actually watching this “nightmare”?

  230. Proud Obamacon says:

    Starr laments that impeachments have become “all to frequent” in America. LOL, yeah this is actually a real quote. Wow the level of stupidity! LOL

    #RESIST!

  231. CG says:

    I don’t know what’s going on in the trial at the moment, but somehow I think Joe Biden has faced worse in his life.

  232. Proud Obamacon says:

    LOL the pussy grabber is on trial and all anyone can talk about it Joe Biden? LOL WTF.. I don’t even like Joe, and this is actually going to strengthen him which is not really what I want.

    Still, yall have no clue what yall doing. And it’s damn beautiful to watch. LOL. Please PROCEED!!!

  233. Phil says:

    I’m watching and I imagine it’s not a highlight. LOL

  234. CG says:

    Claim: this is just like Kavanaugh

    Hilarious.

    The Kavanaugh allegations were completely unproven. Nobody was ever able to place him in a room with his accuser at any time at any place in his life. The evidence indicated that there was no case against Kavanaugh.

    With Trump? The facts are not in dispute. He admitted what he did. We also know who the people were who were “in the room” with him and who had direct knowledge. John Bolton is certainly one of those people. So, if he speaks, and if Trump did nothing wrong, he would exonerate Trump right?

    Somehow though, you folks know that is not what will happen which is why you want to hide him away.

    Thank goodness for Mitt Romney, the leader of the real Republican Party.

  235. NYCmike says:

    “but somehow I think Joe Biden has faced worse in his life.”

    -Yes, he should have a lifetime of jobs in high political office due to family tragedies.

    And any material benefits due to those political jobs that have gone to his family, we must overlook, the same way “CG” would overlook them if Trump’s children were the beneficiaries.

  236. dblaikie says:

    Well PObamacon has lost it. Things must be getting tough with his warped worldview!

  237. Phil says:

    Romney? The leader of the Republican Party?

    Yeah, ok buddy.

  238. NYCmike says:

    “Thank goodness for Mitt Romney, the leader of the real Republican Party.”

    -When the trial comes and the jury has to decide who the “deadender” is, this statement will be Exhibit A.

  239. CG says:

    Everyone with a brain in their head knows that Hunter Biden is a ne’er do well and embarrassment to his father. By his own admission, he made a huge mistake taking the job at Burisma. He is correct. If someone wants to use any of this as a reason why Biden should not be President, that’s fair game.

    However, none of that is an excuse for the current President of the United States to abuse his office and endanger national security and the very survival of an ally while they are in war with an adversary to dig up “dirt” strictly for political reasons.

    If there was any indication that either Biden had done anything remotely illegal though, our own Justice Department could have looked into it. Instead, he called on Rudy Giuliani as an unaccountable secret agent. Many around Trump knew this was a big problem and they sought to hide it away as soon as he got off his “perfect call.”

    Remember, Trump said the Ukranians did not actually have to investigate anything, they just had to “announce” they were. He cared about politics, not corruption, and in doing so, corrupted his own office.

    It is still quite likely that he will be acquitted of course. With each passing day a Censure probably becomes more likely though. That will not please him. Trump is very much in danger for reelection, but if the Democrats are dumb enough to nominate Bernie, he may very well win again.

    Irregardless, history will not be kind to Trump and those who enabled him.

  240. NYCmike says:

    Romney doesn’t know who let the dogs out.

    “CG”: Woof.

  241. CG says:

    Who Let the Dogs Out… memories of another failed Mets season.

  242. Tina says:

    I think bondi and the following lawyer just wrecked China Biden.

    No way will they call witnesses without those two.

    This is scorched earth. A MOAB.

  243. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Well PObamacon has lost it. Things must be getting tough with his warped worldview!”

    Say wha? Yeah yup, I’m the one that has lost it. The irony.. LOL PLEASE PROCEED!

  244. NYCmike says:

    “Irregardless, history will not be kind to Trump and those who enabled him.”

    -I love that he keeps repeating this!

  245. Tina says:

    This is just a serious beat down of the corrupt drat managers and Soviet Schiffty

    Scheme team is being pounded.

  246. NYCmike says:

    “However, none of that is an excuse for the current President of the United States to abuse his office and endanger national security and the very survival of an ally while they are in war with an adversary to dig up “dirt” strictly for political reasons.”

    -“CG”,

    Did you ever make a comment on HHR about Obama’s aid package to the Ukraine?

  247. Tina says:

    They hit Biden so hard that Pierre Detestable aka Amoral Scumbag was collateral damage.

  248. CG says:

    I don’t recall that being an issue.

    I certainly agreed that Obama was not nearly tough enough on Russia and that Mitt Romney was absolutely right when he said that Russia was our biggest geopolitical foe. People like John McCain spent years standing by Ukraine and asking for the U.S. to do more to help it.

    Now, you have a current Secretary of State who is having temper tantrums and saying “who cares about Ukraine?”

  249. Tina says:

    Boom!!!

    “I looked at them and said, ‘I’m leaving in six hours,” Biden recounted. “If the prosecutor is not fired, you’re not getting the money.’ Well, son of a b—-. He got fired.”

    All while his son was on the board of Ukraine’s most corrupt company.

  250. Tina says:

    Do Pierre and the Maine chicklet want the Bidens as witnesses?

  251. CG says:

    The facts are that the prosecutor that everyone wanted fired (including Congressional Republicans) was not going after corruption. That is why he got fired.

    They wanted someone to indeed go after corruption. So, if Hunter Biden was doing something illegal (beyond merely cashing big checks for a job he had no business holding) keeping that prosecutor in place would have been exactly what they wanted.

  252. Tina says:

    Can schiffy explain. Why he flew on the same plane with the Russian ambassador in 2016?

  253. Phil says:

    Quit reading after “Mitt Romney the real leader of the Republican Party”

    I know he’s trolling but I wonder if he’ll still be saying that after Mitt votes to acquit. I guess we will have to stay tuned.

  254. Hugh says:

    This will be brutal after the Bolton distraction. Unfortunately for cg Europe loved Obama and Biden. Doesn’t change how corrupt Burisma and Biden are and were. The globalists stick together

  255. CG says:

    Next, I am still very saddened about the entire Kobe Bryant tragedy, especially the loss of three young people.

    I saw the clip of the anchor mixing up Lakers and Knicks. She definitely said “Knackers” or “Nackers.” It did not remotely sound like anything else. A minor embarrassment for her. perhaps? SportsCenter might not be in her future, but someone has to have a sick agenda to claim she said something different.

  256. Proud Obamacon says:

    Yall got Biden Derangement Syndrome! LOL

  257. CG says:

    By the way, the very helicopter was once owned by the State of Illinois and used to fly the then Governor around.

    Bruce Rauner sold it after becoming Governor and somehow it wound up with Kobe who re-painted it with his Mamba logo, etc.

  258. Phil says:

    So was the helicopter owned by kobe? I had just assumed he chartered it for the trip. This part was new to me.

  259. CG says:

    It was his. Totally re-designed with his name and logo on it. He flew it everywhere to avoid traffic. Apparently though he had a deal with his wife that they would never fly on a helicopter together.

  260. Tina says:

    This is a savage BEAT DOWN.

    14 replies 88 retweets 224 likes
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    Joel B. Pollak
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    “The case against Obama would have been far stronger than the case against Trump. … Where were the House managers then?” Herschmann notes Obama sold out defense for the benefit of his re-election. Incredible … Democrats forced to face their Russia hypocrisy! #ImpeachmentTrial

  261. Tina says:

    The pilot appears to have made an error. The fog down to the Central Valley and s California is horrible at this time of year.

    Yesterday was so bad that even police helicopters were grounded

    I never drive down south at this time of year.

  262. Tina says:

    Looks like the presstitutes went to media black out.
    Good little commies:

    Paul Sperry
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    BREAKING: All Big 3 networks ABC, CBS, NBC blacked out Trump defense lawyer Pam Bondi’s presentation this afternoon of Ukraine corruption related to Joe Biden, son Hunter Biden & Burisma. In contrast, Big 3 carried Schiff’s p.m. presentations live, preempting regular programming

  263. Tina says:

    This is another Kill shot:

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    Herschmann just played video of @BarackObama asking Russia for more “flexibility” on missiles until after the 2012 election. He noted that under Democrats’ standard for “abuse of power,” they should have impeached Obama too. One rule for Democrats, one for Trump #ImpeachmentTrial

  264. Proud Obamacon says:

    Yall triggered. Yeah let’s talk about Obama. Hell , maybe yall can even bring up the emails!!! LOL PLEASE PROCEED!

  265. CG says:

    Regarding the 2012 campaign, it would be a nice move if all the House managers and the Senate Democrats stood up and bowed in the spirit of asking for the forgiveness of Senator Romney.

  266. CG says:

    But as lousy as President as Obama was, compared to what Trump did on that call… no comparison.

    Trump broke the law. Trying to muddy the waters in that way just makes the Trump team look weak.

  267. Tina says:

    China and crack Biden need to lawyer up.

  268. Phil says:

    Yeah, the Kobe death along with his daughter and the others is really sad. No doubt the helicopter should not have flown in that kind of fog. In a way it reminds me of the John Kennedy plane crash where he should not have been flying without being instrument certified. Both these should not have happened and were caused by unfortunate judgements.

  269. Tina says:

    Can anybody cite a court case, investigation, anything where Biden’s quiid pro quo was debunked?

    Raheem Kassam
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    .@jaketapper on Bondi/Herschman performance: “This was red meat”.

    .@wolfblitzer: “If the President was watching, he was very pleased”.

    That’s how you KNOW this was a great performance.

    183
    3:04 PM – Jan 27, 2020

  270. Tina says:

    Now it’s a 2 for 1 beat down:

    Shem Horne
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    The President’s legal team is now playing the video of President Obama mocking Mitt Romney for saying Russia was the biggest threat to the US, WITH ROMNEY IN THE ROOM! ???

  271. Tina says:

    Lawyer up crooks:

    Joel B. Pollak
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    Eric Herschmann follows up on Pam Bondi’s excellent presentation on the Bidens and Burisma, noting that then-VP @JoeBiden was willing to risk the fate of the Ukrainian economy for the sake of replacing the prosecutor with jurisdiction over Hunter Biden’s Burisma #ImpeachmentTrial

  272. Phil says:

    What law exactly did Trump break?

  273. NYCmike says:

    Trump gave the Ukraine an aid package.

    Romney said nice words in a debate.

    Guess whom “CG” is more happy about…….

  274. CG says:

    JFK Jr was flying with a cast too. He definitely had the Kennedy gene for recklessness.

    Yeah it’s very unfortunate they decided to try to fly that helicopter yesterday

  275. Tina says:

    Apparently faux news cut away too:

    TheLastRefuge
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    Quite stunning how National MSM doesn’t cover the full defense after covering the full prosecution.

    A visible and alarming precursor for the scale of their manipulative intent and bias in the 2020 election.

  276. CG says:

    Trump should Tweet “Romney was right!”

    But no, he is too afraid of getting on Putin’s bad side.

  277. NYCmike says:

    “CG” has now informed us how empathetic he is about the Kobe Bryant tragedy…….add another foot on to the moral high ground please.

  278. NYCmike says:

    “But no, he is too afraid of getting on Putin’s bad side.”

    -Yup, that must be the same reason he makes fun of Merkel signing those gas deals with Russia.

  279. Tina says:

    So three of the commie house managers voted against any Ukrainian aid.

    Impeach

  280. Tina says:

    And trump sent javelins, the jebots obumbler sent blankies.

  281. Tina says:

    Barrasso just said the four Senators whose eyes were open the widest listening to the Biden information were Sanders, Warren, Bennett and Klobuchar.

  282. Phil says:

    Uh, hate to tell you but I think he’s already “gotten on Putin’s bad side” with his energy policies making America energy independent, sanctions imposed on Russia, to say nothing of pressuring Germany to stop their proposed natural gas pipeline with Russia…all 180 degrees from his predecessor.

    But, yeah, keep up the Trump is a Russian stooge Talking point. Nice slogan, but facts clearly point in the opposite direction. Right up there with ‘Trump broke the law”. Both patently false.

  283. Phil says:

    Oh, and arming the Ukraine with tank buster missiles. Another way he didn’t want to get on Putin’s bad side I suppose.

    Yep, Putin’s puppet all the way.

  284. Hugh says:

    I will start sending money to sanders. It’s my hedge bet to make sure trumps reelection

  285. Phil says:

    I may write Bernie a check myself. Certainly a helluva lot better investment than the one I wrote to Mitt in 2012.

  286. Tina says:

    They just don’t know what hit them.

    etweeted

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    Great point by Eric Herschmann

    The House managers say Trump jeopardized our national security with a temporary delay in aid AND at the same time they say it was official U.S. policy for Biden to withhold a billion dollars in loan guarantees unless one individual was fired.

  287. Hugh says:

    Phil. So true. My wife and I gave 5k to that as s. I have worked with a number of Mormons and have much respect for them as people though reading about their faith it seems a bit of a cult. Mitt does not fit the mode. In open primaries reps should go in mass to vote for Bernie. Time to play like dems play. To win.

  288. Phil says:

    Former Senator Barbara Boxer just on Fox praising the integrity of John Bolton and describing him as a “straight shooter” Want a laugh? Go back and look up some of the things she had to say about him while she was in the Senate.

    You can’t make this stuff up.

  289. Tina says:

    Faux news has Barbara boxer on to praise Bolton.

    Lol, what a sheotty network they have.

  290. Phil says:

    Boxer and Chris Wallace ought to get a room.

    Charge it to Fox News.

  291. Tina says:

    enny
    @bennyjohnson
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    CNN’s Chief Legal Analyst Jeffrey Toobin: Pam Bondi “did an effective job of showing how sleazy the hiring of Hunter Biden was.”

    “The only reason he got” the job “is because he was the Vice President’s son”

  292. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    Does anyone here disagree that Pam Bondi always looks good, but today she looked particularly “hot”?!!! (She also did a great job.)

  293. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    WINNING on immigration reform!!!

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/01/scotus-trumps-immigration-public-charge-rule-is-good-to-go-pending-appeals/

    Neil Gorsuch’s opinion is brilliant. He assails the use of Nationwide Injunctions by District Courts.

  294. Victrc says:

    Dershowitz for the win

    Wow. He is absolutely hitting it out of the park. How can the Dems counter this. He’s stating facts, has done the research back 240 years, and making a clear case that there is no way Schiff could counter.

    Just wow. I love constitutional law so this is like crack!

  295. Robbie says:

    Greg Bluestein
    @bluestein
    Breaking: Rep. Doug Collins is expected to run for US Senate in Georgia. #gapol #gasen

    – This is why we can’t have nice things. This worked so well when good ole Roy took on Luther Strange in 2017.

    Sadly, people who never would’ve supported a retrograde like Collins before Trump, will prefer his mouth breathing nonsense because he offers nothing but over the top praise of Trump.

  296. Robbie says:

    Victrc says:
    January 27, 2020 at 8:03 pm
    Dershowitz for the win

    Wow. He is absolutely hitting it out of the park. How can the Dems counter this. He’s stating facts, has done the research back 240 years, and making a clear case that there is no way Schiff could counter.

    Just wow. I love constitutional law so this is like crack!

    – This kind of crack aided nonsense is why I still occasionally check this forum. This place was once a bastion of center right discussion about candidates who can actually win, but now it’s a forum that praises Jeffrey Epstein’s chief defender.

  297. jason says:

    Mulvaney shreds Bolton. Or his lawyer does, anyway.

    “The latest story from the New York Times, coordinated with a book launch, has more to do with publicity than the truth. John Bolton never informed Mick Mulvaney of any concerns surrounding Bolton’s purported August conversation with the President. Nor did Mr. Mulvaney ever have a conversation with the president or anyone else indicating that Ukrainian military aid was withheld in exchange for a Ukrainian investigation of Burisma, the Bidens, or the 2016 election. Furthermore, Mr. Mulvaney has no recollection of any conversation with Mr. Giuliani resembling that reportedly described in Mr. Bolton’s manuscript, as it was Mr. Mulvaney’s practice to excuse himself from conservations between the President and his personal counsel to preserve any attorney-client privilege.”

  298. Tina says:

    We are winning on twitter.

    The jebots have been destroyed today.

    Notice jebots fronting for Biden.

  299. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag thinks he is center right and Bunu thinks he is a conservative.

    I love this place.

  300. Tina says:

    Nobody is backing up Bolton, the War Monger.

    The way they kneecapped the Biden’s, I don’t think there will be any stomach for witnesses.

    Burisma will hit Rome y, through Coffer black and other family members.

  301. Phil says:

    So Collins is going to run. Great, a divisive Republican primary opening the Door to a Democratic win in November. We’re trying to throw away the Kansas seat. Hey, why not toss the Georgia seat too. Schumer says thank you very much!

  302. jason says:

    Trump broke the law”

    LOL

    Corey is alleging something even the bogus impeachment articles don’t allege.

  303. jason says:

    Amoral Scumbag and Adam Schiff are on the same “center right” page.

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  304. Phil says:

    Corey was on a roll today, Jason.

    Romney was the real leader of the Republican Party.

    Trump broke the law.

    Trump afraid to cross Putin.

    I guess Corey was high this afternoon, but you couldn’t make up three more patently false statements…not even if you tried.

  305. jason says:

    This place was once a bastion of center right discussion about candidates who can actually win,”

    This from someone who supported Jeb for President.

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  306. Tina says:

    Cg was pretty much a hit and run poster.

    Time for new Cn and n talking points

  307. NYCmike says:

    “Sadly, people who never would’ve supported a retrograde like Collins before Trump, will prefer his mouth breathing nonsense because he offers nothing but over the top praise of Trump.”

    -I have forgotten…….is Monday one of the days at HHR where most of you don’t support the primary system?

    It is tough to keep track of the “not fascists”.

  308. NYCmike says:

    “You can’t make this sh-t up.”

    -Phil, jason,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wujVMIYzYXg

  309. Tina says:

    Joel B. Pollak
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    Dershowitz: #impeachment requires “criminal-like conduct akin to treason and bribery…This is the key point in this impeachment case: purely non-criminal conduct including abuse of power and obstruction of Congress are outside the range of impeachable offenses

  310. Tina says:

    Dershowitz does not look 81 and he is sharp as a tack.

  311. jason says:

    Romney is a complete media whore unprincipled scumbag. He is the leader of nothing except maybe MSM sycophants.

    There is no “real” Republican party. The Never Trumpers are at most 5% of the party, you need more than that to be “real”.

    The Never Trumpers have sold out their principles, if they ever had any, in a short sighted effort to get rid of Trump, who will be gone in a year or 5 years.

    The consequences of electing a socialist will probably last for decades, if not forever.

    If they were really conservatives, they would realize that is not a good trade off.

  312. Victrc says:

    Re Dershowitz, regardless of the ignorant and uninformed comment of Robbie, he has done a brilliant job. Anyone who views this argument from both its legal and academic perspectives can come away nothing less than impressed.

    He has done what Robbie’s close Dem friends have not been able to do, argue based on legit, legality and the Constitution. He is 100% correct and this impeachment would do exactly what Madison was afraid of, making the chief executive serve at the pleasure of the legislative.

    This trial, if it weee a fight, would be called right now by the referee in a TKO, keeping the opponent from getting his brains beat in.

  313. Victrc says:

    Legit should be logic.

    What he has done is presented the law, presented facts free from emotion backed up with precedent, scholarly review and text from the founders. The Dems argument had none of this, it was pure emotion because it was nothing more than a political ploy to influence the next election.

  314. Big Joe says:

    #303-
    “Breaking: Rep. Doug Collins is expected to run for US Senate in Georgia. #gapol #gasen”

    To the surprise of absolutely no one here in Georgia. Sen. Loeffler (appointed) spoke out against Mitt Romney trying to get on the President’s good side. The potential primary will be a battle to see who is the most Trump-like candidate.

    Georgia electorate is changing. Sen. Perdue is pretty popular. I can’t see a scenario where the senate seats are split. That would be a strange outcome.

    Big Joe

  315. lisab says:

    the dems must have lost big today

    the 3 musketrolls showed up

  316. lisab says:

    who says global risk of Wuhan virus is ‘high’

  317. lisab says:

    should be, WHO says global risk of Wuhan virus is ‘high’ 🙂

  318. VictrC says:

    I know I keep harping on it, but what an amazing job Dershowitz did. I don’t see how they can vote for witnesses after listening today. He completely blew away the premise for the entire Impeachment. There is no high crime and he clearly stated how what is in the articles fails to meet the standard for impeachment. If there is no high crime or misdemeanor then there is no need for witnesses. The articles of impeachment are not high crimes. Period. You can not find new crimes to “impeach” during the process. If they wanted to charge him with a high crime or misdemeanor they should have done that. They did not.

    There is no such crime as obstruction of Congress and he clearly and succinctly laid out why. He was prepared with precedent, with scholarly writings dating back to the 1500’s to demonstrate what the words meant. He used the Framers (he was careful not to call them the Founding Fathers. I wonder if anyone noticed that) own words and how they argued about what should rise to the level of impeachment, even pointing to text and writing where a number of the Framers didn’t even want impeachment because they thought it was a tool.

    The most important argument he made was based on Madison, the Father of the Constitution himself, who stated that he didn’t want impeachment for such things as “abuse of power or obstruction of Congress….I’m paraphrasing” because then the Presidency would be minimized and be nothing more than someone who served at the “legislatures” will.

    There is a distinct separation of power for a reason and the only abuse of power is that being wielded by Pelosi and her pens!

  319. lisab says:

    Island resort offers guests copious amounts of cocaine, free alcohol and ‘unlimited sex’ with male prostitutes
    ————————–

    pago pago?

  320. GF says:

    322- Big Joe, I could be wrong, but I think the last time a pair of Senate seats split was South Carolina in 1966; Thurmond won handily, but Gov. Fritz Hollings managed to hold the other seat for the Dems by just 3 points, 51-48.

    Even Blue MN saw both seats go Red in the infamous Dem massacre in ‘78 (and TN in 1994; CA saw both go Dem in ‘92 even though many thought that the parties would trade seats ie Feinstein would grab Wilson’s in the special, and Herschensohn would take Cranston’s for the full term).

  321. phoenixrisen says:

    #326 — The President’s legal team was surgically lethal today, not just Dershowitz. I thought Bondi was particularly incredible. The way she laid out the prosecution on Biden while demonstrating Trump did nothing wrong using effective comparison, strong and clear evidence, and argument clarity was first class.

  322. VictrC says:

    Phoenix – I agree with you. The entire team did great today. Biondi, the lawyer who laid out the corruption of the Biden’s, did great as well. But Dershowitz was the cherry on the cake. How can you vote for more witnesses when the charges they submitted clearly do not meet the constitutional level of impeachment.

    You can’t add charges. If they want to go back, do more investigations and submit other articles with actual crimes, they should do that. They won’t because there was no high crime or misdemeanor. period.

  323. NYCmike says:

    “How can you vote for more witnesses when the charges they submitted clearly do not meet the constitutional level of impeachment.”

    -Since our moral superior, “CG”, deemed Romney “the leader of the real Republican Party.”, whatever Romney chooses to do is what us lesser beings must abide by.

  324. Hugh says:

    I feel much better tonight. What a beat down.

  325. lisab says:

    Camping at the NJ rally. Reports say there’s already 1500 – 2000 people here, and the rally is still 22 hours away!

  326. NYCmike says:

    Jersey rally – Rumors that Tink is performing tonight….

  327. Tina says:

    I am not a troll. I am “center right.”

    -Jebot

  328. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The irony of the impeachment is that its main political victim is likely to be Joe Biden. Voters are now focused on the Burisma scandal, and the Biden sleaze associated with it. Its inexcusable for Hunter Biden to end up on the board of one of the Ukraine’s largest, and most corrupt, companies. Then to have Joe Biden personally intervene to get a prosecutor fired who was investigating Bursima, which was paying millions to his son, is just shocking. But then again we saw the same type of corrupt cronyism with Clinton Foundation, the Anthony Weiner caper,.. and the list goes on. Its time for the whole Clinton, Obama, Biden clown cabal to go away.

    Once the impeachment hearings are over, expect some of the other Democratic candidates to attack Biden based on the Bursima scandal. For Bloomberg or a “moderate” to win, they need to get Biden out of the race.

  329. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Camping at the NJ rally. Reports say there’s already 1500 – 2000 people here, and the rally is still 22 hours away!”

    Must be nice when you live in your parent’s basement. Rest of us have jobs and support your ass watching Faux news creaming about Orange rallies LOL

    #RESIST!

  330. Phil says:

    Hard not to agree with My friend, San Diego on this one. In an effort to kill or at least wound Trump, they’ve really screwed Biden. The defense team brought out the entire Biden Ukrainian saga from top to bottom and it stinks to high heaven. It’s out there front and center now. No way The MSM can now put this genie back in the bottle. Democrats can get Bolton, but he comes tied with Hunter, and Joe is going to be heavy collateral damage.

  331. jason says:

    Proud Obamacommunist still has to work?

    I am sure once the Marxists take over that terrible injustice will be remedied.

  332. jason says:

    Corey, Amoral Scumbag and Proud Obamacommunist have the same talking points.

    Politics makes strange bedfellows….

  333. DW says:

    Still waiting for data from RCP and 538, but the three toupees all have their POTUS rankings out. Gonzales laughably has forgotten that ME and NE break out EVs by congressional district.

    2020 Paladin POTUS Dashboard
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    ST | RCP | 538 | RCP | Sabato| Cook| Gonz || Evs
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    TX | TBA | TBA | Ln R | Lk R | Sf R || 163
    IA | TBA | TBA | Ln R | Ln R | Ln R || 169
    NE2 | TBA | TBA | Toss | Ln R | Sf R || 170
    ME2 | TBA | TBA | Ln R | Ln R | Ln D || 171
    OH | TBA | TBA | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R || 189
    GA | TBA | TBA | Ln R | Ln R | Lk R || 205
    AZ | TBA | TBA | Toss | Toss | Tlt R || 216
    NC | TBA | TBA | Ln R | Toss | Toss || 231
    FL | TBA | TBA | Ln R | Toss | Toss || 260
    PA | TBA | TBA | Toss | Toss | Tlt D || 280
    —^—above states needed for Trump to win—^—-
    WI | TBA | TBA | Toss | Toss | Toss || 290
    MI | TBA | TBA | Ln D | Ln D | Tlt D || 306
    NH | TBA | TBA | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D || 232
    MN | TBA | TBA | Ln D | Ln D | Lk D || 228
    NV | TBA | TBA | Ln D | Lk D | Ln D || 218
    ME | TBA | TBA | Ln D | Ln D | Ln D || 212
    CO | TBA | TBA | Ln D | Lk D | Sf D || 210
    VA | TBA | TBA | Lk D | Lk D | Sf D || 201
    NM | TBA | TBA | Lk D | Sf D | Sf D || 188

  334. jason says:

    Rest of us have jobs and support your ass watching Faux news creaming about Orange rallies LOL”

    Translation: I am jealous as hell the socialists can’t get any crowds at their rallies.

  335. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Translation: I am jealous as hell the socialists can’t get any crowds at their rallies.”

    Says Jason, the guy posting from his parent’s basement all day fantasizing about a threesome with his Orange SEX fantasy and a fill in the blank third. Who is it today? The carnival barker, Doug Collins? LOL sick!

    Jason to respond with his usual drivel about gulags, Soviets, NK, etc etc.. yada yada

    #RESIST!

  336. Proud Obamacon says:

    I’m at work so I won’t be responding. Could check in at lunch to see what nonsense Jason has posted. LOL!

    #resist!!!

  337. Phil says:

    So I come back to this site this morning to see if anything is new and all I can find is the same usual nonsense from bunu direct from his lair in Tehran plus more of the same old tired drivel from the troll. As least nothing snarky from sanctimonious Corey – not yet but it’s early.

  338. jason says:

    The Marxist Leninist turd is pretending to have a job.

    This is after getting fired from his volunteer job chopping down sugar cane to help the Cuba dictatorship.

    I know what Proud Obamacommunist thinks is a dream job. When the Marxist take over, he thinks they will assign him to some neighborhood to report on suspicious anti-communist activities. For every name he turns in for re-education camps he will get a Ruble. Currently 62 names will equal a dollar.

  339. jason says:

    I’m at work so I won’t be responding”

    LOL

    He can post at work but he can’t respond?

    Obviously not from the top of the troll gene pool//

  340. jason says:

    I feel kind of sorry for Corey. The poor bastard has so debased himself by endorsing a racist bigot for President and now repeating the talking points of a despicable cad like Adam Schiff and saying things like “a far leftist would be better than Trump” that he has effectively become an object of pity rather than derision.

    When you lie in the cesspool with Joe Walsh and Adam Schiff and still pretend that somehow you are taking a moral high ground on anything it shows a degree of delusion that requires professional help.

  341. jason says:

    Whoops..

    “While the Department of Justice has not reviewed Mr. Bolton’s manuscript, the New York Times’ account of this conversation grossly mischaracterizes what Attorney General Barr and Mr. Bolton discussed. There was no discussion of ‘personal favors’ or ‘undue influence’ on investigations, nor did Attorney General Barr state that the president’s conversations with foreign leaders was improper. If this is truly what Mr. Bolton has written, then it seems he is attributing to Attorney General Barr his own current views — views with which Attorney General Barr does not agree.”

  342. Chicon says:

    343 – seems that Trump needs one of PA, WI, MI or MN; if he wins FL and above in your chart.

  343. jason says:

    -Let’s see who “CG” and Robbie back up on the Bolton issue.”

    It is actually hilarious. John Bolton was always regarded as a kooky loose cannon by the R establishment (me included) and of course by the left.

    But now, all of a sudden, he is their national hero, his views and opinions are golden and cannot be challenged (as long as they are opposed to Trump).

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  344. NYCmike says:

    “You can’t make this sh-t up.”

    -Here he goes again…..

  345. NYCmike says:

    I am pretty confident that both “CG” and Robbie would prefer someone like John Danforth to John Bolton……that was BEFORE THE LAST 24 HOURS, of course.

  346. DW says:

    Chicon, yes, that’s correct. As long as AZ and GA hold, and I think they should, and if the trio of NC, OH and FL all hold, then yes, it needs to be one of the states you mentioned, and it wouldn’t surprise me if its Minnesota.

    But I don’t think Trump can win with 270. Dems will find some dirt on one of the 270 electors and then use blackmail to get the elector to flip to the Dem and throw the election.

  347. NYCmike says:

    Wouldn’t Trump win with state delegations right now? Or do I have the process wrong?

  348. Phil says:

    DW, and Democrats would find something on that 270th elector at the last minute. The Kavanaugh script calls for perfect last minute timing. They did it with kavanaugh, they’re doing it with impeachment this week, and they’d do it to kill the 270th elector. No doubt in my mind.

  349. Dylan says:

    360–This is why on a very broad level, the GOP HAS to have an anti-fraud, anti-shenanigan fully staffed and deployable strike force to prevent this type of thing. I predict we are going to see Brenda Snipes style non-sense X 1000 this cycle. Lord I hope the GOP is ready for trench warfare.

  350. Chicon says:

    360 – President Harris will do anything to win.

  351. Tina says:

    Very bad day for scheme team.

    Notice about the trolls came here when crack
    Rock and China Biden were thrashed.

    Day 2 was awesome. Dershowitz ended quite well.

  352. Tina says:

    Looks like there are not enough votes for the rinos to have the moustache be a witness.

    Phuq the rinos on this one.

  353. NYCmike says:

    Supposedly, from that video, Rick Wilson is a “Republican”.

  354. NYCmike says:

    https://freebeacon.com/politics/dem-voters-dont-want-defund-charter-schools/

    -Wasn’t Bloomberg the sole Democrat touting charter schools? He might be onto something.

    Best to re-elect Trump, and know that charter schools will not be pushed down.

  355. jason says:

    But I don’t think Trump can win with 270. Dems will find some dirt on one of the 270 electors and then use blackmail to get the elector to flip to the Dem and throw the election.”

    The delegates have to be well vetted this time. In PA the campaign committee for each candidate chooses the electors, so faithless electors are presumably more difficult to happen.

    On the other hand, the majority of convention delegates are elected. Of the 71 PA delegates, only 17 are bound to vote for the primary winner. I remember trying to vote for anti-Trump delegates, but they lost in my area to pro-Trump delegates. Most people who vote don’t realize you have to vote for 3 convention delegates that support your candidate in each congressional district.

    I won’t be voting this time around, although I am sure pro-Trumpers will win all the delegate slots.

  356. jason says:

    How do get off the Avenatti jury.

    “Avenatti is a notorious scumbag who is willing to do anything, including lie and cheat in order to enrich himself and gain public attention,” one potential panelist wrote. “He should already be in prison.”

    “He started to believe his own hype and thought he was above the law,” wrote another.”

  357. lisab says:

    I feel kind of sorry for Corey.
    ————————

    have you ever seen his blog?

    it is like in the movies when the cops go into a suspects house, and everything seems fine, and then they open a door to a room …

    and they see a shrine to the murder victim with thousands of pictures of the victim everywhere and the pycho’s mother’s severed head on a table.

    he literally has hundreds and hundreds of essays … which no one has ever read or commented on.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TUeUL7EW9M

  358. NYCmike says:

    “have you ever seen his blog?”

    -Yes.

  359. PresidentPaul! says:

    Did Trump plan on hiring Bolton so he could write books about his great experience there?

  360. mnw says:

    RE: Avenatti’s jury questionnaires:

    Years ago, I had a minor role in prosecuting a corrupt physician who bilked the govt out of a lot of money.

    One of the written voir dire questions our side submitted was, “Have you or any member of your family ever been treated by [Dr. John Doe], or received medical treatment at the [Dr. John Doe] Family Clinic in [Anywhere, USA]?”

    One venireman wrote, “No. I’d rather go to the vet.”

  361. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    Look at how positive Trump’s numbers are in New Hampshire in this U of NH Poll. Start at page 15.His Job Approval is 50% and Removal from Office is a NO by 13pts.

    http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/01/26/top1_nh.pdf

  362. Hugh says:

    Great finish. If not for the Bolton distraction this would be done. And what is graham and other republicans doing talking about reading the transcript as if it somehow matters? It doesn’t. It makes it seem as if it could.

  363. jason says:

    Big earthquake in Jamaica.

  364. jason says:

    Well reading the transcript could be a bone thrown to Romney and Collins.

    But I think the defense did a good job in making the point that Bolton’s policy differences with Trump are irrelevant.

    I only watched this part of the trial. I think it is like an NBA basketball game, usually the last 2 minutes are what matters.

  365. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    A follow up to my post yesterday stating Utah voters, particularly Mormons, are not supportive of Romney’s actions regarding the impeachment inquiry.

    A Utah poll came out today showing Utah registered voters opposed removing Trump from office by 53% to 39%, and Mormons are more strongly against removing Trump from office than voters of other religious affiliations.

    Romney really is going out on a limb with what is increasingly appearing to be a personal vendetta.

    “Though Utah voters reluctantly elected Trump in 2016, a new Deseret News/Hinckley Institute of Politics poll shows 53% oppose the president losing his job, and 40% do so strongly. The survey, conducted by pollster Scott Rasmussen, showed 39% favor removal from office, while 8% are unsure. Trump won Utah with only 45% percent of the vote.”

    “The partisan breakdown, though, is the biggest indicator in the poll of where Trump sits among Utah voters. The survey shows 76% of Utahns who identified themselves as Republicans are sticking by Trump, while 83% of Democrats want him out. Independent voters are split, but leaning a little against having him removed.”

    “Women and voters under age 35 were more inclined toward removing Trump than were men and older voters, according to the poll. Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are more opposed to removal than were Protestants and Catholics.”

    https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/1/27/21083891/poll-trump-impeachment-trial-john-bolton-mitt-romney-deseret-news-hinckley-institute-rasmussen

  366. hugh says:

    378. Then dems leak and they ask for more. It will never end. Let Susan vote for witnesses and a couple others. Get Murkowski who it wont hurt politically to vote no. its then over.

  367. jason says:

    Never seen Corey’s blog.

    But if he has written hundreds of essays, good for him.

  368. Hugh says:

    Schumer says no to just looking at the manuscript.

  369. jason says:

    The Rs in the Senate should meet.

    The wavering Rs should be told look, there are not 67 voters to impeach, do we want to drag this out for the same outcome, when we know the Dems only want this delay to try do damage Trump?

    Now maybe that IS what Scumbag Romney wants, to damage Trump, in which case it will fall on deaf ears.

    But McConnell should give it a shot.

  370. jason says:

    Schumer says no to just looking at the manuscript.”

    Zzzzzzzz….

  371. Big Joe says:

    Looking forward to Apple’s earnings report soon. Could be just as important as any primary results.

    Big Joe

  372. jason says:

    LOL..

    Breaking: Warren admits there is no evidence against Trump!

    “Try as they might, the White House should know that the evidence against Donald Trump will not be hidden forever. On day one as president, I will order the release of every document related to this impeachment inquiry. The American people deserve to know the truth.”

  373. jason says:

    I agree with Warren, the evidence against Trump is hidden.

  374. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

    test…

  375. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

    New Hampshire
    Likely Democratic Primary Voters
    Jan 2020
    ARG

    Bennet 1%
    Biden 13%
    Bloomberg (write in) 2%
    Buttigieg 12%
    Gabbard 8%
    Klobuchar 7%
    Patrick 2%
    Sanders 28%
    Steyer 2%
    Warren 11%
    Yang 5%
    Other 3%
    Undecided 6%

  376. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

    It’s happening people ^^^

  377. jason says:

    Reports there are 100k requests for the NJ rally tonight and the venue holds 7.5k.

    I guess people aren’t worried about the flu.

  378. NYCmike says:

    “I guess people aren’t worried about the flu.”

    -Democrats are scarier!

  379. NYCmike says:

    https://www.bostonherald.com/2020/01/27/five-ways-to-protect-yourself-from-coronavirus/

    -In regard to Democrats, for 2020, the only way to protect yourself is to Vote For Trump!

  380. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

    Los Angeles Times
    @latimes

    Breaking: Sen. Dianne Feinstein became the first Democrat to suggest that she could vote to acquit President Trump despite serious concerns about his character.

    https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1222278899121508355

  381. Scooterboy says:

    Alan Dershowitz ripped Elizabeth Warren a new A-hole on his twitter page.
    “If Warren knew anything about criminal law she would understand the distinction between motives-which are not elements of crime, and intent, which is.”
    “It’s the responsibility of Presidential candidates to have a better understanding of the law”

  382. NYCmike says:

    Feinstein?

    Wow!

    “CG” and Robbie will seek to have her primaried!!