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Biden Leads Sanders By 20% in SC

Monmouth University has jumped aboard the polling bandwagon that is showing Joe Biden on the verge of a huge win in South Carolina and Bernie Sanders in danger of falling into third place.

PRESIDENT – SOUTH CAROLINA – DEM PRIMARY (Monmouth)
Joe Biden 36%
Bernie Sanders 16%
Tom Steyer 15%
Elizabeth Warren 8%
Pete Buttigieg 6%
Amy Klobuchar 4%
Tulsi Gabbard 1%?

This poll was done February 23-25 among 454 likely primary voters. If this result happens, the question is whether this result coupled with the seeming collapses of Michael Bloomberg and Pete Buttigieg in national polls will sway enough of the non-Sanders supporters to jump ship from their current candidate and move over to Biden for Super Tuesday.

Posted by Dave at 11:12 am
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70 Responses to “Biden Leads Sanders By 20% in SC”

  1. mRviTO says:

    Look, fat.

  2. Phil says:

    Biden is the favorite for the nomination.

    On Tuesday, he wins

    Arkansas
    Tennessee
    Arkansas
    Oklahoma
    North Carolina
    Virginia
    Texas (not sure we Republicans can save him here)

    Sets him up for big wins in the next few weeks in delegate rich states like Ohio, Illinois, and Michigan. Biden will trounce Bernie in Florida in two weeks as well and that will be brutal. The fade of Bloomberg has really helped Biden.

    Biden is tougher in November than Sanders. Much tougher.

  3. SweatyToothedMadman says:

    Phil, my respectful dissent:

    Bernie wins:

    1. CA
    2. TX
    3. VA
    4. CO
    5. UT
    6. VT
    7. ME
    8. Democrats Abroad

    Bernie is not going away. And Pony Soldier is *BROKE*. No money to compete on Super Tuesday or sustain his campaign beyond that. The Bern has the bucks and will not go quietly into that good night. Throw in the fact that Nanny Bloomberg, Buttplug, Warren, & Klob aren’t dropping out anytime soon. A long, tough slog to the Dem nomination.

    And when we get to the fall, Trump will shred Pony Soldier in debates.

    Yes, Pony Soldier will a comeback in SC – but what he ain’t coming back from is his apparent Mad Cow and his running-on-fumes campaign.

  4. NYCmike says:

    Phil,

    I apologize, but you are getting into MD-“CG”-type-certain-to-happen-mode once again. I guess the Kamala guarantee was simply flushed down your memory hole.

  5. NYCmike says:

    https://thediplomat.com/2020/02/the-coronavirus-outbreak-how-democratic-taiwan-outperformed-authoritarian-china/

    -Personal liberty and freedom combined with a responsible government which is beholden to its constituents is the better way to go.

    Thank You Congressional Republicans, along with Republican President Trump, who look to work together with other federal and state agencies to inform the public about the dangers we may face, as opposed to casting blame at others and fomenting panic, which is how the media/Democratic Party have acted in this situation.

  6. mRviTO says:

    I survived net neutrality.

    Bring on coronavirus.

  7. mRviTO says:

    Israeli scientists: ‘In three weeks, we will have coronavirus vaccine’

    ………….

    Iran should probably hold off on wiping them from the face of the earth considering half their leaders have coronavirus now.

  8. jason says:

    I wouldn’t nominate Biden just yet. He is just one short step from a major malfunction.

  9. DW says:

    my response to Phil from thread below:

    I hate to disagree with you, but Sanders has an incredible base of supporters who will turn out in every state–that is unless there are states out there without universities. So even in losing some of these states to Biden, Bernie will still get his share of delegates.

    A few weeks ago, Biden was given up for dead, and his recent recovery is only because Bloomberg has flopped. So I would liken Biden’s current recovery to the moment the stern of the sinking Titanic broke loose, allowing the bow section to level in the water, which seemed like an improvement.

    Biden’s ongoing struggle to keep historic information from conflating with recent or current information is a classic sign of early stage dementia. This will not get better.

    The greater danger right now would have been for Biden and Bloomberg to both sink, allowing Bernie to get 50% before the convention.

    The best case scenario is for Bernie to show up in Milwaukee with 39% of the delegates, and then either a) get the nomination after messy negotiations on the 2nd ballot, or b) have the nomination stolen from him (again), resulting in his angry supporters not voting in November.

  10. jason says:

    Also Phil, remember that 2 million super Tuesday votes have been cast already.

  11. DW says:

    Marquette poll just out showing Sanders up 12 in Wisconsin–not a shocker at all. But they don’t vote until April.

  12. mRviTO says:

    Golnaz Esfandiari
    @GEsfandiari
    Iran’s Vice president Massoumeh Ebtekar has been tested positive to #Coronavirus. Ebtekar was present at yesterday’s cabinet meeting, sitting not far from President Rouhani. 2 Mps and a deputy health minister have said in past days that they have been infected.

  13. mRviTO says:

    This is gonna get blamed on mossad, isnt it?

  14. NYCmike says:

    “This is gonna get blamed on mossad, isnt it?”

    -I was going to write, in response to your comment #7, how long will it take for Israel to get blamed for the virus, if their scientists are able to come up with a vaccine before anyone else.

  15. jason says:

    I am going to be very upset.

    “DNC superdelegates warn they will block Bernie Sanders at convention and spark civil war within “

  16. jason says:

    I still think we should go through with nominating Bunu HHR Ambassador to Iran.

    Duty over viruses.

  17. Hugh says:

    DW pretty solid analysis

  18. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Have you been to Jim’s Cheesesteak in Philly? Our accountant brought some up for lunch today. Not bad.

    Not enough, either……….

  19. NYCmike says:

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=14445

    -Something about the picture in this link……leads me to believe that the “pain” which has been suffered by the “victims” can be cured with a swift kick in their arses.

  20. Phil says:

    Mikey, I have acknowledged my Harris miscalculation on numerous occasions and even made fun of it. I have never flushed that down the memory hole. The opposite is true.

    #3

    Bernie will indeed win California, Colorado, Maine, Utah, Vermont. He absolutely will. I stand on my Texas and Virginia predictions, however. It will be a big day for China Joe and the rest of the Never Trumper – establishment Democrats, however. Bloomberg, on the other hand will not win a single primary unless he eeks out a win in Oklahoma Tuesday. He will have the opposite of big Mo coming out of Super Tuesday. The only way he can maybe stop the bleeding is to somehow win Florida in a couple of weeks. Iffy at best.

    The next series of national Democratic polling out Sunday and Monday will show Bernie and Biden essentially tied nationally. A big move for Joe. Book it.

  21. NYCmike says:

    Bitterlaw,

    Actually called Jim’s South St.

  22. Phil says:

    ….and the next national polling will show mini Mike’s numbers down significantly.

  23. NYCmike says:

    LOL….Phil going full-Wes and calling me Mikey now…..I didn’t think Texans would be such sensitive folks……I’ll send you an egg creme, Phil.

  24. Phil says:

    Full Wes?

    Not sensitive at all. Would love to hear your predictions for Tuesday. Let’s have them.

  25. George says:

    And all is forgiven and forgotten already regarding Biden’s family ties to Ukraine? (Joe has certainly forgotten.)

  26. Phil says:

    25

    Just another hit piece at the Bulwark from Never Trumpers designed to scare Democrats into nominating Biden.

  27. NYCmike says:

    Tuesday predictions come on Monday.

    South Carolina

    Joe Biden 32%
    Bernie Sanders 24%
    Tom Steyer 12%
    Elizabeth Warren 16%
    Pete Buttigieg 8%
    Amy Klobuchar 4%
    Tulsi Gabbard 3%

    Bunu, bet on this!

  28. DW says:

    WISCONSIN – Marquette

    2/19-23/2020

    1000 RVs

    Trump 47
    Fauxcahontas 44

    Trump 46
    Klobber 46

    Trump 45
    Gloomberg 44

    Trump 45
    Mayor Butt. 45

    Trump 46
    Pony Soldier 46

    Trump 46
    Bolshevik Bernie 48

  29. Phil says:

    You’re behind the curve. Biden wins SC by around 20 to 22. Possible Sanders gets shut out on delegates there. He needs at least 15% in a congressional district to get delegates.

  30. Phil says:

    Tuesday predictions on Monday? Ok, better than later. Just telling early what’s going to happen. Writing is already on the wall, however.

  31. Phil says:

    All five Republicans in my breakfast group are voting for Bernie on Tuesday. We are doing what we can here in Texas to promote chaos.

  32. NYCmike says:

    “You’re behind the curve.”

    -We shall see.

  33. Phil says:

    Ok, so we aren’t going to get Trump’s dream opponent in Bernie (I was really hopeful there for a few days), but at least there will be a nice split amongst Democrats when they leave Milwaukee. That’s better than nothing.

  34. GF says:

    NYC, Jim’s is fine, but I’ve always been partial to Pat’s, across the street from Geno’s (Uncle Ralph always said to avoid Geno’s, don’t get caught up in the glitz).

  35. DW says:

    Phil, its very hard to predict today which Dem opponent would be the easiest out months from now. Maybe its Sanders. But then again, maybe not.

    But right now it is increasingly apparent that 1) no candidate will arrive in Milwaukee with more than half of the delegates and 2), Sanders likely arrives there with the most.

    This puts the Dem Party establishment in a deliciously horrible position. Trapped on the horns of the dilemma:

    1) Allow Sanders to go through and be the nominee at the risk of losing the election badly, with a down-ballot slaughter, or

    2) Take the nomination away from Sanders, and then try to ask his ticked off supporters to come out and support the candidate who just stole the nomination from him.

  36. BayernFan says:

    Looks like Steyer may be getting a serious look from voters. Makes sense.

  37. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Both Pennsylvania and New Hampshire are competitive.

    PENNSYLVANIA
    Sanders 49% (+3)
    Trump 46%

    Trump 47%
    Biden 47%

    Trump 47%
    Warren 47%

    Trump 45% (+1)
    Klobuchar 44%

    Trump 46% (+1)
    Buttigieg 45%

    Trump 48% (+3)
    Bloomberg 45%

    @mcall
    @Muhlenberg
    2/12-20

    New Hampshire
    @UNHSurveyCenter
    GE Poll:

    Buttigieg 48% (+6)
    Trump 42%

    Sanders 46%
    Trump 46%

    Trump 46% (+2)
    Biden 44%

    Trump 47% (+14)
    Bloomberg 33%

  38. DW says:

    38 – both posted on the prior thread.

  39. Phil says:

    Those NH Mayor Pete numbers in NH compared to the other matchups are just flat out weird.

  40. John says:

    36
    Now it seems that Pelosi is somewhat backtracking her statement yesterday whereas she would be comfortable with Sanders at the top of ticket to now saying something about a ‘non-menacing’ policy agenda even if contradicts her party’s presidential nominee’s platform.

  41. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This might be one of Trump’s best Rasmussen polls. Voters are focused on the Democratic race, and may be feeling its best to leave the status quo in place. They prefer the devil they know than the new ghouls the Democrats have put forward.

    Trump Job Approval:
    Approve 52%
    Disapprove 47%
    @Rasmussen_Poll
    2/24-26

  42. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    40. Mayor Peter spent a lot of time in New Hampshire during the campaign and came close to winning the Democratic primary (probably would have without Klobucher being on the ballot).

  43. NYCmike says:

    GF,

    Sounds like the accountant’s daughter lives down there, and was visiting her. She lives close to Jim’s. I guess that the Jim’s place is not that far from Geno’s and Pat’s, except that there are 4-way stop signs every block, so it takes a long time to get over there.

    I guess we aren’t his biggest client…….

  44. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The “Mike Will Get It Done” flyer I received today was about the best of his daily mailings that been sent every day for over a week. It was glossy and spoke of his accomplishments as mayor of New York City. Most his prior mailings have been in letter form and bland.

  45. Phil says:

    Yeah, I guess the Trump – Mayor Pete numbers in NH do make some sense given all the time Pete spent there and how well he did in the primary. However, all that is really relevant from this point forward is the Trump-Biden matchups and Trump plus 2 there is certainly, encouraging.

    The other Trump matchups are never going to happen.

    It’s Biden, folks. Sleepy Joe is Trump’s opponent.

  46. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Bernie is a real sleazeball:

    “(1) In 1998, then-Rep. Sanders cosponsored a bill that would allow Vermont and Maine to dump their nuclear waste in a poor and largely Latino town in Texas called Sierra Blanca.

    (2) A Texas Observer article in 1998 covered protestors from Sierra Blanca confronting Rep. Sanders and being given the stiff arm. The story’s headline was “Sanders to Sierra Blanca: Drop Dead.” Sanders even rebuffed an offer to visit Sierra Blanca, telling its residents, “Absolutely not. I’m gonna be running for re-election in the state of Vermont.”

    (3) Liberal hero Paul Wellstone—an actual progressive Democrat—gave a speech on the Senate floor calling this dump “environmental racism.” Former Texas Democratic Rep. Silvestre Reyes called Sanders actions “insanely callous.”

    (4) After Congress approved the proposal, environmental regulators rejected the Sierra Blanca site. But a different site in Andrews County, Texas gained approval a few years later and Vermont/Texas maintain an interstate waste agreement.

    (5) In 2016, Sanders’ tax returns revealed that as of 2014 Jane Sanders was still drawing a small salary as an alternate commissioner for the Texas Low-Level Radioactive Waste Disposal Compact Commission as part of the agreement with Vermont that her husband pushed.”

    https://thebulwark.com/sierra-blanca-is-how-trump-crushes-bernie/

  47. gameboy says:

    #47 We can only pray you are correct about Biden. He’ll be easy pickings.

  48. Phil says:

    This is all being dumped on Sanders now to finish him off for the nomination by the Democratic establishment, their MSM puppets, and Never Trumpers – all who want to see Trump beaten in November and who know Sanders would get crushed.

    Sanders IS a sleazeball, but it makes no difference since the Democratic November opponent to Trump will be China Joe. Bernie will be just a footnote pretty soon.

  49. Phil says:

    Biden, easy pickings? Should be….but you cannot count on it given the way the media will pull out all the stops to elect him. Would have much preferred Bernie.

  50. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    A Trump-Biden debate would be the entertainment highlight of 2020.

  51. CG says:

    Three cheers for JebBot Tim Miller and The Bulwark!

  52. CG says:

    Wait until Bloomberg airs his ads about Bernie having written that children should be encouraged to walk around naked and touch each other’s private parts..

    And yet some of you are voting for Bernie.

  53. Phil says:

    Ah, yes, Bloomberg. Half a billion so far and dropping like a stone.

  54. CG says:

    Awfully early to reach that conclusion, but if so how does that prevent Bernie from being taken down as well? It’s not like Bloomberg is going to run out of money.

  55. Phil says:

    Nope, won’t run out of money. Problem is he’s out of votes.

  56. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    See Bloomberg dropping some serious money into a negative ad campaign targeting Sanders for the Sierra Blanca and children’s touching issues, and probably more things we don’t know about yet. My impression is Bloomberg’s primary goal is to stop Sanders, and his president campaign may be secondary.

  57. CG says:

    The field cannibalizes itself and there is no one left but Sanders and… well Bloomberg still has his money.

    He just needs a better comedy writer. I am available at a mere $5 million an hour.

  58. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    55. There is no excuse under any circumstances to vote for a commie.

  59. CG says:

    Tell that to the people doing it and encouraging others.

  60. Phil says:

    Unless it is to stop another commie in November.

    Bernie isn’t any different than the others. He just doesn’t wear a mask.

  61. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    60. The crucial question is do you drink soft drinks and use straws?

  62. CG says:

    In a larger cup yes. Otherwise, straight outta the can.

  63. NYCmike says:

    “Tell that to the people doing it and encouraging others.”

    -It’s much more responsible to just stay home and allow the other commies to choose the one they want.

  64. NYCmike says:

    lisab had posted some numbers of federal judges, other than the 2 Supreme Court justices but also lifetime appointments, that have been picked in the last 3+ years by President Trump…….”CG” believes them to be inconsequential to our future…….but 8 years of a President Trump, the person picking the judges, THAT is a calamity!

    So, we must listen to him about voting for Sanders in the primary…….he is clearly a long-term thinker.

  65. CG says:

    ZZZZ… a vote for Bernie is a vote to make Bernie President. You don’t get do-overs if you don’t really mean it.

    I believe in voting for better choices than the worst options.

  66. Bitterlaw says:

    Never vote for the opponent you think will be easier to beat. Maybe you will be wrong and then have to deal with knowing you helped the enemy.

  67. Bitterlaw says:

    Republicans who voted for Obama in the Dem Primaries In 2008 own his failures and policies.

    Democrats who voted for Trump in the In GOP primaries hoping he would be easier to beat in the GE own him, too.