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Biden Leads Democratic Race in SC By Either 4% or 28%

Change Research and The Post and Courier have come out with a poll for the race in South Carolina that goes against the idea that joe Biden is running away with things on Saturday.

PRESIDENT – SOUTH CAROLINA – DEM PRIMARY (Change)
Joe Biden 28%
Bernie Sanders 24%
Tom Steyer 16%
Elizabeth Warren 12%
Pete Buttigieg 11%
Nobody Else Mentioned

This poll was done February 23-27 among 543 likely primary voters. Meanwhile, some polling outfit called Starboard Communications (linked in the article above) throws their lot in with the “Biden in a landslide” narrative by showing Biden hitting 40%.

PRESIDENT – SOUTH CAROLINA – DEM PRIMARY (Starboard)
Joe Biden 40%
Tom Steyer 12%
Bernie Sanders 11%
Elizabeth Warren 9%
Pete Buttigieg 9%
Amy Klobuchar 6%
Tulsi Gabbard 2%

This poll was done February 26th among 1102 likely primary voters.

Posted by Dave at 4:22 pm
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202 Responses to “Biden Leads Democratic Race in SC By Either 4% or 28%”

  1. Wes says:

    Biden needs a big win to stop Sanders’ momentum.

  2. Big Joe says:

    Next buy order triggers at Dow 25,500 despite Proud O’s proclamations.

    Big Joe

  3. Phil says:

    Sanders has no momentum.

  4. PresidentPaul! says:

    It’s ridiculous that we allowed this stuff into the US when we could have blocked these people from entry.

    I don’t we have the will to force them into quarantine either. We’ll just let it spread instead.

  5. PresidentPaul! says:

    Notice how the sp500 just noisedived before close. No one wants to hold equities over the weekend corona news drops so they plan on selling off on friday, but of course the market anticipates this so it sells of thurs afternoon.

    It was doing this in early january too to avoid weekend news the first corona scare (when the market decided to ignore things)

  6. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Super Tuesday state.
    #Arkansas @OurProgressHQ Poll:
    Sanders 19%
    Buttigieg 18%
    Biden 17%
    Bloomberg 17%
    Warren 12%
    Klobuchar 6%
    (Conducted Feb 21-25) http://OurProgress.org/polls

    Arkansas head-to-heads with Trump
    Trump 58% (+22) Biden 36%
    Trump 58% (+22) Buttigieg 36%
    Trump 58% (+22) Sanders 36%
    Trump 58% (+23) Bloomberg 35%
    Trump 59% (+24) Warren 35%
    February 21-25, 2020 / 4.9% MoE / 643 sample

  7. CG says:

    For way ties in Arkansas must be decided via a hog wrestling Round-Robin.

  8. mRviTO says:

    Political Polls
    @Politics_Polls
    ·
    9m
    South Carolina
    @EmersonPolling
    /
    @NXSTMediaGroup
    Poll (2/26-27):
    Biden 41%
    Sanders 25%
    Buttigieg 11%
    Steyer 11%
    Klobuchar 6%
    Warren 5%
    Gabbard 2%

  9. CG says:

    All of Tulsi Gabbard’s SC support are due to billboards that lead confused people to think that Nikki Haley changed her name.

    Biden is polling very well there since he recently announced he was a candidate for the U.S. Senate.

  10. Victrc says:

    So it appears as if Bloomberg’s first debate performance will rival Jeb Bush’s as the most campaign deflating in history, though Bloomberg will get more than the 3 delegates Jeb got.

    Still, the move out of Bloomberg and to Biden has been insane. It could now be that sanders and Biden get to the convention with nearly the same amount of delegates.

    I wonder if Biden et al still want to see how it plays out at the convention anymore. My bet is not…hypocrites

  11. NYCmike says:

    #6 – Sell everything!

    Looking at my 401K, it is off less than 5% since the beginning of the year. It has run up about 50-60% since Trump took over. I am fine with buying more shares each week. Bunu, I am here for you!*

    *Of course, that would mean you are selling shares of a company that is actually making a profit.

  12. CG says:

    Doesn’t your dad sign your check though?

  13. CG says:

    “Like millions of Village People fans worldwide, the President and his supporters have shown a genuine like for our music..”

    First-rate trolling.

  14. dblaikie says:

    Either Bernie or Biden would be fine with me. Both are going to lose, unless they can convince us that the world is about to end with a pandemic and it is Trump’s fault. In my view that is the only possibility to bring about Wes’s bold and certain prediction that Trump was toast after 2018. On the RCP average Trump is now above 46.

  15. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Sanders has no momentum.”

    Phil, help!!! LOL

    #RESIST!

  16. Proud Obamacon says:

    “Next buy order triggers at Dow 25,500 despite Proud O’s proclamations.”

    BJ, its not too late to cancel that buy order! Like I’ve said, this is a falling knife that is only falling faster and faster.

    Science denier Pence in charge of the response? Pathetic and markets agreed today.

    #BLUE.WAVE.COMIN

  17. SweatyToothedMadman says:

    Phil, we agree that Mad Cow Joe will enjoy a comfortable SC win on Sat.

    But you seem to minimize or overlook the fact that Pony Soldier is *BROKE*. His campaign is running on fumes and cannot sustain a national campaign. He’s not on the air ANYWHERE.

    Not so with The Bern and Nanny Bloomberg. They got the $$$. And Warren, Buttplug, & Klob aint gonna get out in the short-term

    So I advise holding off on the coronation of Mad Cow Joe in Milwaukee. He is not well (perhaps in the early stages of dementia).

    His health, the fact that Bernie will be there to the bitter end, and that most probably no one has a majority of delegates going into the convention make it more likely that Pony Sodlier will *NOT* be the nominee.

  18. Cash Cow TM says:

    I know the market is in a coronavirus-related downward spiral right now, but I got a peak at the paperwork that Walt and his Mrs. got recently about their community foundation scholarship fund they set up about 12 years ago.

    In 2019, the fund had a rate of return on investment of 19.7%.

    Not bad…

  19. Phil says:

    Sorry, can’t help him, PO. The guy is just too blatant commie to sell even to the leftist Democrats….and ain’t that saying something.

  20. Tina says:

    Don’t know why China Burisma Biden is attacking Haley.

    Haley ripped him good.

    Btw, China is now under criminal investigation in Ukraine.

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/02/27/nikki-haleyjoe-biden-n2561994

  21. Paul says:

    8: Pay-per-view that to raise money for the General.

  22. Phil says:

    20

    I hear you. The guy is flawed as hell. The fact that they are counting on Joe just shows how shallow their bench is.

  23. Tina says:

    Conversation

    SandpiperCrownLatin crossStar of davidDogCatRed heart
    @darhar981
    Haley Hits Back After Biden Reportedly Criticizes Her Brains
    Clearly, Haley wasn’t going to just let that jab go.??

    “Hold up Joe,” she said on Twitter. “I will put my brain up against yours anytime. Bring it.”

  24. NYCmike says:

    “Doesn’t your dad sign your check though?”

    -No, he just collects dividends.

    Well deserved.

  25. Paul says:

    I liked Mike Bloomberg briefly, but I’m reluctantly coming around to Bernie Sanders.

    I think he will be the smarter option for the Democrats because it is really about getting base turnout. Here’s my basic math from people in my community and church. All the old Democrats (most of my church) will vote. They won’t stay home just because Sanders is the nominee. AND, they most certainly will vote for any Democrat over Trump. Younger people I meet will vote if it is Sanders but less likely to be motivated if it’s not. African Americans that I talk to say they won’t vote for Bloomberg at all. So, my calculation is that there is more “base” voter gain with Bernie than “swing” voter gain with Mike Bloomberg.

  26. Phil says:

    As usual, the Fox poll has every Democrat beating Trump by 6-9 points.

    Lol

    Junk

  27. Tina says:

    Fox is sheot.

    But I do think cccp is leading nationally vs China and the others.

  28. Tina says:

    Viva Fidel Sanders

    At least until he gets the nomination.

  29. NYCmike says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsDGv2V9tEE

    “I was so poor, when it was my birthday, my father showed me a picture of a cake.”

  30. NYCmike says:

    “As usual, the Fox poll has every Democrat beating Trump by 6-9 points.”

    -Don’t get cocky, kid!

    Get out and vote, even twice! Don’t let the Democrats be the only ones using that method!

  31. Paul says:

    And Trump has taught us that people like bad simple lies over good complicated truths. Bernie’s ideas are simple even if they are bad and unworkable in reality. Simple wins.

  32. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Our troll are so gloomy now. Concerned troll needs to come back and tell us that Trump is doomed.

  33. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Victor Davis Hanson – “Trump’s Chances for Re-Election Are Looking Better and Better”

    https://pjmedia.com/victordavishanson/trumps-chances-for-re-election-are-looking-better-and-better/

  34. mRviTO says:

    “Bloomberg has been more reckless in speech than even Trump. Almost daily, an embarrassingly crass quote pops out of his past.” —VDH

  35. mRviTO says:

    M. Hanif Jazayeri
    @HanifJazayeri
    Look how widespread #CoronaVirus is in Iran. 23 of 31 provinces have officially recorded cases of #COVID19. Bear in mind, the regime is trying to minimize the crisis to cover up its dissemination of misleading info & inaction that multiplied the scale of damage & human loss. @WHO

  36. Tina says:

    Interesting tweet on the faux poll

    Drat +12?

    https://twitter.com/jacktcnd/status/1233172110408912896

  37. mRviTO says:

    See new Tweets
    Conversation
    BNO Newsroom
    @BNODesk
    BREAKING: Iran’s former ambassador to the Vatican, Hadi Khosroshahi, has died of coronavirus – IRNA

  38. mRviTO says:

    Has John Kerry or Chris Murphy been quarantined yet?

  39. Phil says:

    42

    Good question.

    LOL

  40. Phil says:

    According to the monthly FOX joke polling all Democrats have huge leads over Trump.

    Biden up over Trump by 9 and Bernie by 8.

    Good God. I have seen two different polls of Wisconsin in the last two days showing Trump either leading there or, at worst dead even.

    Now, given all that, who could possibly believe Trump is down by 8 or 9 points nationally?

    I don’t take FOX polls seriously.

  41. Tina says:

    Phil, looks like, according to the tweet, it’s a Drat plus 12 poll.

    Gallup has it R plus 3

  42. Phil says:

    Yeah, Tina. The FOX numbers made no sense.

  43. mRviTO says:

    According to Fox poll

    “Getting rid of private health insurance and moving to a government-run health care system for everyone”?

    42% favor, 49% oppose.

  44. Phil says:

    Right. Anyone really believe that there is a just a 7% plurality of registered voters who would prefer to keep their private insurance?

    Tells you plenty about their sample.

  45. Hugh says:

    Fox polls are a joke. It’s obvious yet they don’t change it. Fox thrives because the other news outlets are insane. They should be careful. The fan loyalty is thin if they had any reasonable alternative

  46. Victrc says:

    It’s a quiet night before the Saturday storm here at HHR

    Funny how the dynamic of this race has changed in just a few days due to the last two debates. Mini Mike doesn’t seem to be that formidable even with his billions…and the establishment is terrified of Bernie.

    It will be interesting to see what next Tuesday brings. I still say Texas is the key. If Bernie wins there he rolls, if Biden recovers, then its anyone’s ballgame. He could actually get the nomination for Senate…I mean the other Biden, wait, I mean the Democratic Nominee for President. Stand up Chuck

  47. Phil says:

    Agree, Victrc that if Sanders were to somehow hold off Biden here in Texas that would be significant. Not counting on it, but we crossover Republicans will do our best. Sadly, probably won’t be enough, but we can probably add a point or two to Bernie’s total.

    I, too, don’t know which Biden Texas Democrats will go for. Maybe they will split the Biden vote between the two Bidens. LOL.

  48. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    Only thing holding Trump up was the economy.

    It’s over even if Sanders is the nominee.

    Hasta La Vista Orange Man. Have fun in the upstate New York prison you’re going to.

  49. BayernFan says:

    The Dems should put COV19 on its ticket. It’s their only hope of winning.

  50. DW says:

    four new polls this morning in Dem primary:

    the Bolshevik is…

    +8 in Massachusetts
    +2 in Massachusetts
    +9 in Utah
    +17 in California

    So much for Fauxcahontas winning her own state

  51. Phil says:

    Yeah, her losing her own state is as bad as it gets. If that doesn’t dry up her $$ I don’t know what will. She’ll have to get out, and withdraw to the reservation. On the other hand, with her ego, Maybe not.

  52. DW says:

    How quickly things change. Just a few weeks ago, Fauxcahontas was pushed as having a revival due to her takedown of Bloomberg. Bloomberg was the rising star, but now has exploded like a meteor instead. Biden was it, until he collapsed. The flavors of the day keep changing because they are all CLOWNS.

    Sanders is the only one with staying power, so he will get the nomination.

  53. SweatyToothedMadman says:

    Notwithstanding a double-digit victory in SC tomorrow, Pony Soldier is *BROKE* and MIA in the Super Tues states… Dems going feel The Bern like they have V.D.

    #KAG2020!

  54. DW says:

    Phil’s worries about Sanders not making it are needless.

  55. Phil says:

    Maybe, DW. Maybe.

    I know one thing. If, and I do mean IF he shows up at the convention with the most delegates but his lead is only 300 or so delegates…..the Super delegates, Bloomberg, Biden etc will get together and pull out all the stops to take it away from him on the second ballot. A Bernie nomination will be Pelosi’s worst nightmare as far as keeping the House.

  56. SweatyToothedMadman says:

    #59, and Phil, if that happens, Bernie and his bros will raise hell and split the party… I agree w/ you, the Dem establishment will screw Bernie and his supporters out of the nomination. Then – whoever their nominee is – is screwed for Nov. with an alienated Bernie and his base taking a walk.

    The Dems have a Hobson’s choice:

    1. They may not win with Bernie
    2. They cannot win without him

    Good times!

  57. Tina says:

    Political Polls
    @PpollingNumbers
    · 40m
    #Massachusetts @MassINCPolling
    (Change from Oct 20)

    Sanders 25% (+12)
    Warren 17% (-15)
    Buttigieg 14% (+7)
    Bloomberg 13% (New)
    Biden 9% (-9)
    Klobuchar 6% (+5)
    Steyer 2% (+1)

    (Poll Conducted Feb 23-26)

  58. DW says:

    Yesterday on RRH they were talking about the Dem convention throwing their hands up, and pulling a Senator, like Sherrod Brown from OH, out of the crowd and making him the nominee.

    Yeah, right. Invalidate every single vote cast in the Dem primary and give nomination to someone else? That stuff might have worked in the late 19th century, but not today.

  59. Phil says:

    For you numbers junkies, Silver’s got a neat spreadsheet showing projections of delegates won based on three scenarios out of S.C.

    A Biden blowout win – Sanders comes out of Super Tuesday with 39%, Biden 29% of delegates chosen so far.

    A Biden relatively close win – Sanders 42, Biden 24

    Bernie win – Sanders 50, Biden 15

    Check it out. Interesting state by state numbers breakdown for each state by candidate,

  60. DW says:

    63 – That 39% of delegates for Sanders after ST is the number I had come up with, given a big SC win for Biden. That’s why I was glad for those polls yesterday. If Sanders gets a knock-out punch to the field on ST, then the chaos is over. Good to drag this out. Force them to bloody each other up some more.

  61. VictrC says:

    For everyone, 270towin has a great delegate tracker and potential delegate distribution which is based on the average of all the polls. They update the polls daily so you get a good look at where each state race is.

    they still have Bernie going to the Convention with a 300 delegate advantage over Biden.

    I still say Bloombergs strategy is that he is going to be better positioned because of money to win, and that he should be the consensus candidate. I can still see that as an option

    No way, even with a blowout win Saturday, does Biden get to the convention with enough delegates to win, and looking at the states, I don’t see him having more than Sanders, but it could be closer.

    https://www.270towin.com/2020-democratic-delegate-calculator/

  62. jason says:

    Biden admits he lied about being arrested in South Africa.

    MSM will give him a pass.

  63. Phil says:

    Biden lied?

    I’m shocked.

  64. DW says:

    VIRGINIA – Dem primary

    Christopher Newport U.

    Feb 3-23

    Biden 22%
    Sanders 17%
    Bloomberg 13%
    Buttigieg 8%
    Warren 8%
    Klobuchar 5%

    A three-week long poll, so hard to say how accurate.

  65. jason says:

    “Even as new outbreaks are reported around the world and we edge towards pandemic levels, the situation is stabilizing in some areas where infections were first detected and people are starting to return to normality.
    In China particularly, there has been a major drop in the number of new cases reported in the past week, particularly outside of Hubei, the province where the outbreak began. This has led some areas to lower travel restrictions and begin the slow process of getting back to work.

    Liaoning, a province in northeastern China that borders North Korea, was the first to downgrade the coronavirus emergency response level from the highest level — Level 1 — to Level 3 on Saturday, according to a statement by the provincial government. This was followed by Shanxi, Guangdong, Yunnan, Gansu and Guizhou, accounting for some 305 million people.
    In Hong Kong too, where actions taken by the semi-autonomous Chinese city appear to have avoided an outbreak on the scale of the 2003 SARS crisis, there is a sense of very gradual relaxation. Although two people have died from the virus and the number of confirmed cases continues to rise — it is now more than 90 — an increasing number of the city’s residents are beginning to slowly venture back out and about again. Some are even dispensing with face masks, previously a rare sight.”

  66. BayernFan says:

    Proof that the virus will Peter out and that things will be fine is that the Dems are going all in on it.

  67. SweatyToothedMadman says:

    I agree with this morning’s analysis here. The Dems are screwed.l Pony Soldier is broke and addled. Mini Mike is arrogant and without a base constituency.

    If Crazy Bernie gets screwed again – Katie bar the doors in Milwaukee! Total sh*t show coming…

    I love it!

    #KAG2020!

  68. dblaikie says:

    Jason I read the news about a vaccine coming out of Israel. It seems heartening. It reminds that the answer to this virus will be driven by the power of Capitalism. There is a pot of gold for the company who can develop an effective vaccine and get the glory of saving many lives. I am confident that when a vaccine is discovered the testing will be accelerated.

    I wonder how long it will take for the truth to come about this virus. One just has to look at the stats to see that if the virus is treated quickly, at an early stage the mortality rate will drop. The sad truth is that there is a great difference between China’s healthcare and Korea’s or Japans or Europe or the good ole US.

  69. dblaikie says:

    I get tired of the people who like to drone on about the 50 million who died during the Spanish flu. That was in 1918 for goodness sake. I believe our ability to treat the complications from a virus have improved in the last 100 years!

    Another fact that no one wants to report is that a huge percentage of people who get this virus have very mild symptoms or no symptoms at all. In fact it those folks who are spreading the virus.

  70. John says:

    Here’s the good, the bad, and the ugly (so far) for today…
    Bad
    According to CNN at least five have died from the coronavirus that was aboard the Diamond Princess
    First case of coronavirus has been detected in Mexico
    Ugly
    Dow Jones has lost about 1000 already today
    Trump’s approval in Ras poll has gone from 52-47 yesterday to 47-52 today
    Good
    US trade deficit posted first annual decline in 7 years

  71. Phil says:

    Wow, that Rasmussen poll ain’t good. Three day polling average – yesterday’s numbers must have been brutal to pull it down like that. The Democrats are drawing blood with the virus. Appears to be doing the damage the Russian hoax couldn’t. We will see. Could be a statistical one day fluke.

  72. dblaikie says:

    Phil, this story is going to be a long and winding one, with lots of twists and turns.

  73. John says:

    According to the BBC the coronavirus, according to who thinks of it, is either a ‘Epidemic or an infodemic’
    The report says Italy’s both Foreign Minister and Prime Minister are saying ‘stop the panic’ while France’ President Macron is beginning to freak out.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-51658511
    Meanwhile, the Japan government has declared a state of emergency for the island of Hokkaido (about 6 million residents)…which might/probably lead to the cancellation of the 2020 Summer Olympics.

  74. gameboy says:

    The Chinavirus stuff will be all but forgotten by summer.

  75. Big Joe says:

    Another buy order triggered. I don’t like buying on Fridays, but oh well.

    Biden now expected to win SC. However he needs momentum heading out of SC and to do that he needs to exceed expectations. So I think he needs a 15 point win to accomplish that feat.

    Still it will be tough. There’s really no precedent for a comeback after weak showings in IA, NH, and NV.

    Big Joe

  76. DW says:

    Phil, further reason not to worry about Sanders getting nomination. Two new polls of TX just dropped, Bernie +9 and +6.

  77. NYCmike says:

    #76 – Oh Lord!

    Now Phil is going to start predicting Trump doomsday scenarios……..”CG” will be thrilled!

    Phil, you are a bit of a reactionary type, aren’t you?

  78. NYCmike says:

    Revised – mainly lowered Warren and raised Steyer:

    South Carolina

    Joe Biden 35%
    Bernie Sanders 25%
    Tom Steyer 16%
    Elizabeth Warren 10%
    Pete Buttigieg 7%
    Amy Klobuchar 4%
    Tulsi Gabbard 3%

    Bunu, bet on this!

  79. Victrc says:

    Question

    Has Biden ever won a primary before?

  80. NYCmike says:

    “Has Biden ever won a primary before?”

    -I believe jason stated that Ron Paul (0-150) has a better record than Biden.

  81. Phil says:

    Thanks, DW. Had not seen those. Bernie must be killing it with Hispanic Democrats. I know he’s been in El Paso and San Antonio multiple times. Biden? Yet to appear in Texas anywhere.

  82. Tina says:

    Biden doing horrible in California.

  83. Tina says:

    Political Polls
    @PpollingNumbers
    · 4h
    #California UC Berkeley Poll
    (Change since last month)

    Sanders 34% (+8)
    Warren 17% (-3)
    Bloomberg 12% (+6)
    Buttigieg 11% (+4)
    Biden 8% (-7)
    Klobuchar 6% (+1)
    Steyer 2% (-)

  84. Tina says:

    While China may win sc he cannot recover in time for ca.

  85. Phil says:

    Mike, always liked you but you’re starting to Really annoy me.

    I commented that Trump had a really bad day on a three day rolling average which is obviously true. I also said it could be a statistical quirk.

    Now, as bitter would say, GFY.

  86. Victrc says:

    Tina

    That’s because outside of the AA vote he does horrible. If it weren’t for the AA vote he’d be out already. They are literally the only ones voting for him in some sort of nostalgia for a return to Obama and because they know he will bring an AA on to the ticket and nominate one for the SC.

    Is that enough to get him the nomination and win in November?

  87. Tina says:

    China is wrecked if this ca poll is correct.

  88. Phil says:

    How much tv advertising by Bloomberg are you seeing out there, Tina? It’s wall to wall here, but not helping the guy.

  89. Tina says:

    It could be a quirk that he went up to 52 and back down.

    It has a lot to do with the market.

    They need to put back in the pre 2007 market sales hold.

    Fed also needs to cut.

  90. Tina says:

    Phil I don’t know.

    I don’t watch tv.

    And don’t listen to much radio.

  91. Phil says:

    You haven’t missed much, Tina.

  92. Cash Cow TM says:

    Coronovirus…

    LOOK AT ALL THE POSITIVE WAYS THIS HAS INFLUENCED GLOBAL WARMING…

    –reducing CO2 breathing humans
    –reducing jet air travel
    –China pollution belching factories shut down

  93. NYCmike says:

    “Now, as bitter would say, GFY.”

    -Well done, Phil!

    I continue to like you, but I notice your commentary has become like when I was a child on a see-saw, and the person opposite me was my very fat friend, Steve C.

    First, he would get on and then make me going flying up, then he would get off and make me go flying down to the ground.

    That said, since I am “starting to Really annoy me (you)”, I will back up, offer you an egg creme, and simply laugh at the emotional rollercoaster, and concentrate on joining forces with you to continue the REIGN (word used for “CG”) of President Trump!

  94. Wes says:

    Mikey is so stupid and annoying he even pissed Phil of all people off.

    Wow.

  95. BayernFan says:

    Trump will be fine, most likely. This virus scare is no different than the dozen or so scares we’ve had since Y2K. It’s mostly media driven, given the explosion of cable news and Social Media.

    As for SC Primary, I will be interested in how Steyer does. Should he finish a strong third or even second, he may be positioned to take Bernie supporters who are afraid of his goofiness, Biden supporters who are afraid of his dementia, and Bloomberg supporters who like Steyer for his money and height.

    Where is Tulsi? Now that people are actually voting and paying attention, I’d think that she would be doing better. Is it a rule that she is not allowed in the debates?

  96. mRviTO says:

    BBC Breaking News
    @BBCBreaking
    At least 210 coronavirus patients have died in Iran – far more than officially admitted – Iranian health sources tell BBC

    Latest: http://bbc.in/38bmfKm

  97. Tina says:

    I am not sure what more trump could have done regarding media corona.

    He shut the border and implemented travel restrictions.

    All of this in late January or early feb.

    He should allow for antibiotic and mask production be here and not in China.

  98. mnw says:

    NYCmike

    I thought the Isles looked really strong last night. Best defense I’ve seen this season, & a lot of speed on offense. I’m very glad the Isles are in the other conference!

    Imo, they lost because they were too conservative in the second & third periods. I blame the Isles coaches for that. You can’t sit on a one goal lead & play rope-a-dope against a good team– at least that rarely works.

  99. NYCmike says:

    mnw,

    I hope you are correct, and “too conservative” is their problem.

    Not sure if you recall, I was worried at the beginning of the year, because they had such a hot start. It’s tough to maintain that all year.

    By the way, your Champs look pretty solid themselves! They know how to win!

  100. mnw says:

    mike

    From what I saw, I’m confident the Isles will be in the playoffs. I don’t understand why they took their foot off the gas last night. They DOMINATED the 1st period.

    I see now why one of the Isles won “fastest man in the NHL” at the All Star game. I didn’t know that until last night. They’re going to be a handful for somebody in the playoffs.

  101. NYCmike says:

    “They’re going to be a handful for somebody in the playoffs.”

    -Here’s hoping to have a nice series versus the Blues in June!

  102. NYCmike says:

    FISA about to be reauthorized?

  103. DW says:

    Interesting…YouGov out with a poll that seems designed to help Biden…

    Trump 42
    Sanders 48

    Trump 41
    Biden 50

    Polls are beyond absurd now. Trump running neck and neck with Dems in NH, PA, WI, VA, etc, but trailing nationally by 9 points.

  104. Tina says:

    The Rinos and drats will combine corona and fisa and other goodies into one single bill.

    Watch.

  105. jason says:

    February 28, 2020 at 1:40 pm

    Mike, always liked you but you’re starting to Really annoy me.

    I commented that Trump had a really bad day on a three day rolling average which is obviously true. I also said it could be a statistical quirk.

    Now, as bitter would say, GFY.”

    Hey, Phil this is a guy who gave Trump a pass on financing Harry Reid for decades.

    You think he is going to allow you to point out Trump had a bad polling day?

  106. jason says:

    Dang, I have heard of packing the Supreme Court but it is the first time I have heard of packing the Senate.

    I hear Fauxcahontas already let Biden know if he wants to appoint a Native American woman she is available.

    She can wear two war bonnets so to speak, and she promises they won’t collude.

  107. NYCmike says:

    “Hey, Phil this is a guy who gave Trump a pass on financing Harry Reid for decades.”

    -Bitterlaw,

    You want to help me print the revised idiom directory……it looks like your fellow A-Hole is branching out….this could be a very lucrative endeavor! I’ll share the proceeds if you share the work!

  108. jason says:

    Hey, Phil this is a guy who gave Trump a pass on financing Harry Reid for decades.”

    Anyone think this is not 100% accurate?

  109. NYCmike says:

    “Anyone think this is not 100% accurate?”

    -Whom did I vote for in the NY primary?

    Thanks.

    Pass not given.

    Did you even vote in the 2016 PA primary, Mr. Not A Republican?

  110. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    There are at least two companies in the U.S. rapidly working on a vaccine for the coronavirus. The question is how long government regulators will do their usual footdragging.

    “An American biotech company says it created a coronavirus vaccine three hours after getting access to the virus’ genetic sequence in mid-January, and now scientists are racing to get the vaccine on the market in record time.
    Inovio Pharmaceuticals is based in Pennsylvania, but scientists in its laboratory in San Diego made the discovery.
    “We were able to rapidly construct our vaccine in a matter of about three hours once we had the DNA sequence from the virus available because of the power of our DNA medicine platform,” Dr. J. Joseph Kim, Inovio’s president and CEO, told FOX Business. “Our goal is to start phase one human testing in the U.S. early this summer.”

    https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/california-lab-coronavirus-vaccine-3-hours

    https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/business/nation/story/2020-02-25/drugmaker-readies-possible-coronavirus-vaccine-for-testing

    Virulent influenza epidemics have higher death tolls than what we are seeing with the coronavirus.

    For those who thrive on doom and gloom scenarios; you will have to settle for global warming.

  111. NYCmike says:

    jason,

    I feel like Larry David…..”not a pass, not a pass!”.

  112. Hugh says:

    Between the msm news and these polls no one will believe anything the press puts out.

  113. jason says:

    Did you even vote in the 2016 PA primary, Mr. Not A Republican?”

    I voted for Kasich in the 2016 GOP primary, GFY.

    And what does this have to do with you giving Trump a pass on his decades of funding Harry Reid, including $5000 in 2010 to help defeat Sharron Angle and the letter he sent the day after the election to Reid.

    “You are amazing”

  114. jason says:

    Whenever I read NYC’s posts, it reminds me of why I am not longer a Republican.

  115. DW says:

    Now Morning Consult out with national matchups against 6,117 RVs:

    Trump 43
    Fauxcahontas 42

    Trump 42
    Mayor Butt. 43

    Trump 42
    Gloomberg 43

    Trump 42
    Biden 46

    Trump 41
    Sanders 47

    Seems like a lot of undecided.

  116. NYCmike says:

    “I voted for Kasich in the 2016 GOP primary”

    -Yikes.

    No wonder why you are so sensitive!

  117. jason says:

    Supposedly you were anti-Trump at the time too, who did you vote for?

    Grandstanding Cruz?

  118. Tina says:

    Market recovered

    Fed chair hinted at rate cuts.

  119. Tina says:

    Was down a lot, only loses down 350.

  120. jason says:

    “I voted for Kasich in the 2016 GOP primary”

    -Yikes.

    No wonder why you are so sensitive!”

    Sensitive?

    Zzzzzz….. another doomed to fail attempt to besmirch my character.

  121. jason says:

    Despite all the hand wringing, all we are doing on the Dow is going back to like October 2019.

    This is not 1929.

  122. Tina says:

    This guy gives me fits. Why even say anything? He had no problem with the Russian hoax helping Russia.

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/02/americas-dumbest-senator-warned-gop-senators-that-biden-crime-family-probe-could-help-russia/

  123. Tina says:

    Can China Biden explain how, as a person running for Senate, how can he appoint a senator?

    I don’t know what is sadder, Biden or the group of 30 folks that cheered for him when he said it.

  124. Tina says:

    Only one American with corona virus is still hospitalized, per VP.

  125. jason says:

    US offers to help Iran.

    CNN to call Trump a traitor in 3, 2, 1…

    “The United States stands with the people of Iran during the public health crisis caused by the outbreak of the novel coronavirus (COVID-19). The U.S. Government is prepared to assist the Iranian people in their response efforts. This offer of support to the Iranian people, which has been formally conveyed to Iran through the Government of Switzerland, underscores our ongoing commitment to address health crises and prevent the spread of infectious diseases.

    The United States calls on Iran to cooperate fully and transparently with international aid and health organizations. We will continue to work closely with countries in the region to help address unmet needs in response to the virus.

    Persons interested in providing support to the Iranian people should note that certain donations to Iran intended to relieve human suffering, including the donation of medicine, are exempt from U.S. sanctions”

  126. Tina says:

    Trump wins big victory against the commies in the house:

    Darren Samuelsohn
    ?
    @dsamuelsohn
    · 31m
    BREAKING: President Donald Trump scored a major legal victory on Friday a federal appeals court panel ruled Democrats have no right to hear testimony from former White House counsel Don McGahn.

  127. NYCmike says:

    #130 – Wes may be the prototypical NC voter, so Burr knows he has a lifetime “appointment” if he wants it.

    Wes motto: “Once elected, your seat until death.”

  128. Wes says:

    Mikey, I already know you’re an idiot. You needn’t reinforce that knowledge literally every time you post.

    Burr has already announced his retirement from the Senate in 2022. He will be moving on to other things in just under three years.

  129. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Here is a link to an article about the coronavirus in Wuhan by someone from China. It is a good read, and gives a good view of the intelligence and endurance of the Chinese people in the face of a rotten political system.

    https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n05/wang-xiuying/the-word-from-wuhan

  130. NYCmike says:

    “…if he wants it.”

    -Yup, these words do mean something.

    We’ll excuse Wes this time…..his head is probably stuck in another doorway.

  131. jason says:

    Wes, NYC is desperate for a Mikey Maneuver in NC.

  132. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Morning Consult
    #National GE: Registered Voters

    Sanders 47% (+6)
    Trump 41%

    Biden 46% (+4)
    Trump 42%

    Bloomberg 43% (+1)
    Trump 42%

    Buttigieg 43% (+1)
    Trump 42%

    Trump 43% (+1)
    Warren 42%

    @MorningConsult
    2/23-27

  133. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Republican Primary
    @YouGovUS @ElectionsCenter
    Poll (2/11-20),

    MICHIGAN:
    Trump 97%
    Walsh 1%
    Weld 0%

    WISCONSIN:
    Trump 93%
    Walsh 0%
    Weld 0%

    PENNSYLVANIA:
    Trump 87%
    Walsh 2%
    Weld 2%

    When does the nation’s one true conservative Republican return from Bogo Pogo and turn the tide?

  134. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @skoczela
    Our new MA Republican Primary poll is now posted. Trump leads former MA Governor Bill Weld 83-14. Weld, who won the 1994 Gov election in one of the largest wipeouts in state history is viewed favorably by just 24% of R primary voters, 55% unfavorably.

    The horror!!!

  135. jason says:

    Our independent media…is devastated

    “Devastating Court Ruling Allows White House To Block Testimony From Former Counsel Don McGahn”

  136. Tina says:

    The Rinos will have a fit in the senate:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    · 2h
    I am pleased to announce the nomination of @RepRatcliffe (Congressman John Ratcliffe) to be Director of National Intelligence (DNI). Would have completed process earlier, but John wanted to wait until after IG Report was finished. John is an outstanding man of great talent!

  137. jason says:

    97% of distilleries in Scotland view Weld favorably.

  138. jason says:

    Just saw a Bloomberg ad here, calling the US “unprepared for Coronavirus because of Trump”.

    He has just advanced himself to scum.

  139. Wes says:

    Don’t insult scum by comparing it to Bloomberg, Jason.

  140. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I just got an E-mail from my congressional representative, Susan Davis. It asked all sorts of questions regarding my feelings about the coronavirus. Assume she realizes that several San Diego biotech firms are working hard on a vaccine — its all over the local press. My hunch is this is a prelude to an attack on Trump.

  141. Phil says:

    Count on it.

  142. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    This from the Washington Post:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2020/02/28/i-have-coronavirus-so-far-it-isnt-that-bad/

    1. The U.S. has about 65,000-70,000 drug deaths every year — mostly from opioids, often legally prescribed.

    2. The U.S. has had about 70,000 flu deaths since last October.

    3. The U.S. has had zero deaths from coronavirus.

    But lets panic over number 3.

  143. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I’m doomed. I was in St. George, Utah last week, and they now have coronavirus cases.

    https://www.ksl.com/article/46723709/st-george-man-being-treated-for-coronavirus-at-utahs-intermountain-medical-center

    “Hospital officials assured that Jorgensen, who was diagnosed with COVID-19 outside of Utah, does not pose a public health threat. Jorgensen arrived at the facility Friday evening from Travis Air Force Base in California. “Jorgensen was one of three Utahns aboard the Diamond Princess cruise ship who has been diagnosed with COVID-19.
    At a Friday news conference, officials said Jorgensen has not displayed any symptoms of the disease so far and felt “perfectly normal,” according to Dr. Todd Vento, infectious disease physician with Intermountain Healthcare”

    “Jorgensen’s wife, Jerri Jorgensen, is also being treated for COVID-19. She tested positive for the disease before she displayed symptoms.
    Several days after her positive test, she developed symptoms and was taken from the cruise ship to Japan where she remained hospitalized on Friday.
    The couple has been dealing with the ordeal for weeks but good news came this week — Jerri Jorgensen has tested negative for the illness and is awaiting more test results before she is able to return home to Utah”.

  144. Bitterlaw says:

    I rank coronavirus ahead of rabid squirrels but behind spiders on my list of things to worry about.

  145. Bitterlaw says:

    The Philadelphia Fliwer Show is starting. I am not going.

    Tgca hardest hit.

  146. jason says:

    Zzzzzz…

    You always say you are not going, but then you fold.

    Better get the sweater out.

  147. jason says:

    I’m doomed. I was in St. George, Utah last week, and they now have coronavirus cases.”

    We are sorry.

    But don’t forget HHR in your will.

    The money will be well spent, feeding the lla…., huh, promoting conservative causes.

  148. jason says:

    Actually, my wife said the other day “did you see they are offering free bus rides from York to the flower show””

    While my blood curdled and trying hard not to choke, I said those people are crazy, I read where flowers are one of the main carriers of Coronavirus.

    Hasn’t been mentioned since, but I am prepared now with much better excuses just in case.

  149. Bitterlaw says:

    I do not own a sweater. Jason will be at the flower show. Both can be true.

  150. jason says:

    Bitter is in denial. I don’t blame him.

    Have fun at the show and don’t spill coffee on the sweater, you will need it next year.

    Say hi to Tgca for me.

    Better yet, buy him a 32 oz triple chocolate fudge brownie marshmallow butterscotch maple syrup milk shake and put in on the A-hole Club entertainment account.

  151. jason says:

    Turley on the McGhan decision:

    “The DC ruling further demonstrates that Article 2 on obstruction of congress was premature, as I testified. The White House is vindicated in showing that it had valid constitutional arguments to make — arguments ridiculed at the Senate trial”

  152. Messy says:

    150. The Republicans were for opioid addction before they were against it. ALEC was very big on it in the 1990s and 2000s.

    Deaths from ‘flu are 0.1% of cases. Deaths from Coronavirus are 2.0%. Deliberate incompetence by the Trump administration unleashed Corona into teh general population only a few days ago.

  153. Messy says:

    159. vindicated? Wait until the S-at-A is sent out to arrest peop;le.

  154. Phil says:

    ‘’Deliberate incompetence”

    We’ve all seen examples of incompetence somewhere along the way.

    Apparently Trump is so bad he not only is incompetent, but he does it on purpose.

  155. Tina says:

    Afghanistan peace treaty signed

    Withdrawal likely in 14 months.

    Jebots triggered.

  156. Greymarch says:

    My South Carolina prediction:
    Biden 28%
    Sanders: 22%
    Steyers 18%
    Buttigieg 10%
    Warren 9%
    Amy Klobuchar 6%

  157. Tina says:

    How many deaths in the U..s from muh corona?

  158. Tina says:

    Does Pierre Half Witt realize that his side lost in the appeals courtier Mccahn?

    (His side = drats side)

  159. Tina says:

    4
    14
    45

    The Reckoning Collision symbol
    @sethjlevy
    ·
    1h
    Democrats are going to try to sell:

    Tax cuts aren’t really tax cuts

    Renegotiated NAFTA isn’t really…

    Defeated ISIS isn’t really…

    Withdrawal from Afghanistan isn’t really…

    Building the wall isn’t really…

    All to say Trump didn’t keep his promise.

    #NeverEndingHoaxes

  160. Phil says:

    164

    That would be a horrible result for Biden in a primary with 61% of the Democratic electorate black. The state is made for him.

    Highly doubt it’s that close. Most polls are coming in now at an average of around a 15 point spread.

    The Never Trumpers will spend the next two days hyping the “Biden comeback” but given the demographics of that primary electorate it’s hard to be impressed by that kind of showing.

  161. Phil says:

    I’ll say tonight comes in at around 38-20 Biden – something close to that. Also, not only are the demographics of the SC electorate made for Biden, you have to remember there is no Bloomberg on the ballot to cut into Biden’s total. Remember that even if Biden hits the low to mid 40s tonight.

  162. PresidentPaul! says:

    I prefer Biden to Bernie.

  163. Phil says:

    I prefer they both go away.

  164. Cash Cow TM says:

    Bitter,

    Walt’s wife and gal pals (Gang of Four) will be coming to the Philly Flower show.

  165. Cash Cow TM says:

    Walt and I will be here at home handling chore lists.

  166. Cash Cow TM says:

    Here is the mind of VERY rich and VERY famous entertainment/Hollywood people in America…

    I am super rich…

    I have opinions on many things.

    My opinions on many things have helped to make me rich and famous…

    I must use my wealth and fame to make America think like me….

    Hence, I will go out run for office and/or spend lots of $$$ and microphone time to get people elected and buy elections favoring candidates who think like me on issues…

    Then the world will be perfect, like ME!

  167. Just Fill Out The Census says:

    Trump is a Disgusting President!

  168. Phil says:

    FiveThirtyEight has released their final projection on South Carolina.

    Biden 40 – Sanders 21

    That looks about right to me.

  169. DW says:

    the early, early, pre-jason early exists of SC show Biden way ahead of the field.

  170. Tina says:

    Julie Kelly
    @julie_kelly2
    · 53m
    Things not discussed at #PrinciplesFirst: Losing foreign wars, lousy trade pacts, illegal immigration, 2A, a rogue administrative state, activist judiciary, abortion. (One mention by Ponnuru.)

    Many mentions: Principles, rule of law, Bad Orange Man, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, CPAC.

  171. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    174. Were you referring to Ronald Reagan?

  172. Bitterlaw says:

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

    I wonder if the regular flu is jealous about the coronavirus coverage.

  173. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Do people remember the bird flu epidemic in 2008? — it killed millions, or at least was projected to do so. I attended several meetings where public health officials claimed there would be massive illness and death.

    “The H5N1 influenza virus, also known as “bird flu,” may well be more prevalent and less deadly than health officials had thought, according to a new study published online today (Feb. 23) by the journal Science.

    The World Health Organization (WHO) reported 586 human cases of the H5N1 flu since 2003, and notes that as of Feb. 22, 59 percent (346 individuals) of those people had died.

    But this 50-percent-plus mortality rate may be misleading, according to the new study led by Peter Palese, chairman of the department of microbiology at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York. That’s because the cases reported by WHO include only people who were sick enough to go to a hospital and be laboratory-tested for the virus. For WHO, to get counted, a person must have an acute illness and fever within a week and test positive for exposure to the H5 protein that gives the virus part of its name.”

  174. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    182. It is competition. Plus public health officials are telling people to treat coronavirus as you would the flu. Their both viral infections that affect the respiratory system. If you have pre-existing health issues, both can be fatal.

    What’s most disturbing about what is happening now is a political party is trying to politize a respiratory infection.

  175. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Apple factories in China are resuming production:

    Apple (AAPL) – Get Report CEO Tim Cook told Fox Business Network on Thursday that he’s optimistic that China has gotten the coronavirus outbreak under control, and said that its factories in China that were shut down were getting closer to normal production.

    “When you look at the [iPhone] parts that are done in China, we have reopened factories so the factories are working through the conditions to open, they’re reopening,” Cook told Susan Li in an interview in Birmingham, Alabama. “They’re also in ramp. So I sort of I think of this as the third phase in getting back to normal, and we’re in phase three of the ramp mode.”

  176. Tina says:

    Katie Pavlich
    @KatiePavlich
    ·
    1h
    Reporter to President Trump: Why have you been muzzling Doctor Fauci?

    Dr. Fauci: I’ve never been muzzled and I’ve been doing this since Reagan.

    Oof.

  177. Messy says:

    165. One so far, there will be more now that it’s out and about.

    “muh corona” has killed 2,942 people. the death rate has gone from 2% to 3% and in other countries, the percentage is higher.

    For more information, go here: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

    182.4,800 people had died and 87,000 people had been hospitalized from flu in the USA. Don’t juke about people’s suffering.

  178. Phil says:

    ‘’Don’t joke about people’s suffering”

    …..but it’s ok for Democrats to root for it, right, moron Messy?

  179. PresidentPaul! says:

    If Hillary were in she would have had Janet Yellen doing MMT for her about now.

  180. lisab says:

    just went to costco

    people are crazy buying … lines to the back of the store

    looks like our economy will be fine

  181. PresidentPaul! says:

    If there is anything to learn from Wed don’t catch the falling knife. We probably rally Tues after the monday fall but be leery of it.

  182. Phil says:

    BTW, did Krugman celebrate when the DOW hit 25,000 on the way up? Naw, only when it hit 25,000 on the way down.

    Don’t you just love Democrats?

  183. Tina says:

    Lisab.

    I went out shopping today.

    Nobody is worried about the corona virus.

    People were shopping.

    Btw, just saw gas near my neck of the woods below $3 (cheap for sf Bay Area)

  184. lisab says:

    you know it is bad when a major party in the usa is rooting for a pandemic

  185. Tina says:

    Biden is in the state of North South Carolina.

  186. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    195. So true.

  187. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    196. Biden needs to campaign in West Carolina too.

  188. Tina says:

    Biden did get a cash infusion of $2 million. But he was running low and Super Tuesday is just a few days away.

    According to a local ca paper, cccp will win by 2 to 1.

  189. Marco Rubio says:

    Nanthy Pelothi can thuck my dick!

    Thank you for your thupport, Fwiends!!

  190. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    South Carolina exit polls. Voters 55% African-American; 29% over age 65; 47% say Clyburn’s endorsement was an important factor. Sounds good for Biden.