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    COVID-19 Open Thread

    I’ve had a few people ask for a new thread as I am falling down on the job these days. So here you go…blame COVID-19.

    You’d think pollsters would be having the highest response rate ever these days with so many people stuck in their houses desperate to talk to anybody who is willing to talk to them….

    Posted by Dave at 1:56 pm
    Filed under: General | Comments (1,249)

    1,249 Responses to “COVID-19 Open Thread”

    1. NYCmike says:

      F R I S T ! !

    2. NYCmike says:

      Jeez, now I look at the name of this thread…….hope that isn’t a foreshadowing of future events……

    3. Tina says:

      China Biden’s presser online has only 4,000 viewers.

      Wants a new green deal next round.

      It’s pathetic.

    4. jason says:

      At least the new thread will keep NYC from whining.

      I know, not for long..

    5. DW says:

      Even if the Dems and their accomplices in the media cheat and give Biden the debate questions, like they did for Hillary, it still won’t help him because he would have to remember all that information and still be able to articulate it. He can’t.

      Here would be Joe at the debate:

      Chris Wallace asks a question:

      “Thank you Curtis, that’s a great question. We have to get right on the … uhm, right on that. I have spoken a great deal on that already. So let me say, instead, I want to be clear that as Senator, I will go to work for the American people and for…for the other people.”

    6. jason says:

      Dow up 900 points.

      We definitely won’t see Roadkill Maggot.

    7. VictrC says:

      Jason et al – Fox reports deaths over the previous 24 hour period, meaning they update based on the previous day at the same time.

      The official total runs from 8pm to 8pm (resetting at 00:00 GMT)

    8. lisab says:

      yeah, i am reporting the fox news numbers”

      They are reporting more than 225 deaths today?

      no, i think they are a day behind your numbers

    9. Pitchaboy says:

      Italy has turned the corner unless they get stupid again and go on a “hug and kiss” spree. We will turn the corner next week it looks like. Rate of increase is definitely down and today may turn out to be a down day

    10. lisab says:

      imagine pelosi et al. during ww2

      “we condemn the president for declaring war against japan, this is obviously racist. we want to instead focus our spending on diversity quotas in boardrooms”

    11. lisab says:

      Italy has turned the corner unless they get stupid again and go on a “hug and kiss” spree.

      actually, the wikipedia numbers have them up over 700 deaths again

    12. lisab says:

      Italy has turned the corner unless they get stupid again and go on a “hug and kiss” spree.

      actually, 683

      canadian math

    13. jason says:

      States Say Doctors Are Stockpiling Trial Coronavirus Drugs — For Themselves”

      And guess what, they are hoarding the drugs that the MSM says don’t work.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    14. lisab says:

      usa shutdown

      lisab’s reaction: ok … time to fix up the house

      lisab’s husband’s reaction: time to order a crapload of new beer making equipment and mess up the kitchen

      this won’t go well

    15. jason says:

      Italy has turned the corner unless they get stupid again and go on a “hug and kiss” spree.

      actually, the wikipedia numbers have them up over 700 deaths again”

      Dr. Brix said the Italy numbers looked better and they do. Even better today.


    16. Victrc says:


      Italy +5,210 +683
      Italy +5,249 +743

      USA +6,225 +61
      +11,075 +225

      Spain +5,552 +443
      +6,922 +680

      Germany +4,107 +46
      +3,935 +36

      Iran +2,206 +143
      +1,762 +122

      +2,448. +240

      Switzerland +1,020 +31
      +1,082 +2

      S. Korea +100 +6
      +76 +9

      UK +187. +13
      +1,427. +87

      Netherlands +852 +80
      +811 +63

      I don’t know if all the numbers are all in yet, but the trend from yesterday to today looks good.

      Obviously the USA numbers are not all in for the day, Louisiana just did a big dump with 19 dead, so we shall see.

    17. jason says:

      Italy deaths today lower than yesterday, and number of cases too.

      This is great news because as Pitch says the trend is definitely on a downward slope.

    18. jason says:

      As I reported on the other thread, the Europe numbers look better.

      Not Iran though.

    19. PresidentPaul! says:

      These covid numbers actually make no sense. We USA have virtually same number of cases as Italy yet dramatically less deaths.

      USA deaths: 7,503
      Italy deaths: 859

      So essentially I think when comparing countries looking at deaths is the most useful number since some countries test less or more or use different kits or different criteria for when they use the kit or whatever.

    20. PresidentPaul! says:

      err had that reversed obviously.

    21. jason says:

      Again, don’t look at absolute numbers, look at the rate of increase.

      In the US we want to see less than 13,700 new cases and less than 350 deaths today.

      We won’t know until about 10 PM

    22. PresidentPaul! says:

      Main reason I’ve always said this could never be #justtheFlu is because of the r0.

      Assume an r0 of 4 (it might be 5) and over 10 generations one person will infect over 1 million.

      Now compare that to an r0 of 1.3 and I’m guessing that one person would infect more like 14 people after 10 generations.

      14 vs over 1 million is the difference there.

    23. PresidentPaul! says:

      r0 1.3 being the flu of course.

    24. Pitchaboy says:

      Mr. President Paul:
      1. Mortality numbers are a reflection of demographics of infection, quality and accessibility of health care
      2. New infections are a measure of the speed of spread. In a pandemic that is winding down, rate of new infections start to fall before total new infections start falling.
      3. Number of deaths today reflects state of the disease 2 weeks ago.

    25. lisab says:

      so do the dems want more or less deaths than the swine flu?

    26. jason says:

      So essentially I think when comparing countries looking at deaths is the most useful number”

      No, you have to report it as a percentage of cases recorded or as deaths per million in population.

      Italy has 60 million people, the US 330 million.

      Italy is running close to a 10% mortality rate vs. 1.3% in the US.

    27. VictrC says:

      A true comparable is to look at the following top 6 countries mortality totals as their population combined parallels the USA:

      Nether. 356
      UK. 435
      Italy. 7503
      Spain 3434
      France 1100
      Iran. 2077
      Total. 14,905

      USA. 841

      I think Trump should be sharing this number with the rest of the country

    28. lisab says:

      except for iran

      i bet those countries all rank higher than the usa on healthcare

    29. jason says:

      Obviously this is not the flu.

      We have 20000 deaths worldwide so far from COVID-19.

      The flu has killed between 400000 to 600000 worlwide in the 2019/2020 season (not over yet), over 20000 in the US.

    30. jason says:

      bet those countries all rank higher than the usa on healthcare”

      If you want to believe the rankings, which I don’t.

      The criteria is bogus, designed to conclude that “universal coverage” provides better healthcare, which it doesn’t.

    31. dblaikie says:

      I thought that my old home state of Nevada was going to blue for good, but then we have the loony actions of their crazy Gov. He signed an executive order not allow Doctors to prescribe Chloroquine in the state. Can anyone here spell recall.

    32. jason says:

      A true comparable is to look at the following top 6 countries mortality totals as their population combined parallels the USA”

      No, that is not a fair analysis.

      We are behind them on the curve, we are going to have a lot more deaths before it is over.

      But the US mortality RATE should be lower.

    33. Country Dick Montana says:

      I look at deaths per million of population. Top 10 countries in deaths have the following death/million

      Italy 113.7
      Spain 73.1
      China 2.3 (if we believe that they counted all the deaths)
      Iran 25.0
      France 16.4
      US 2.6
      UK 6.6
      Dutch 19.8
      Belgium 15.5
      Germany 2.5

      NY 14.7
      NYC 22.9

    34. Brandon says:

      Hey guys. I’ve really enjoyed the robust discussions that go on here on this site over the years. Are there other sites that people go to to have discussions like this?

    35. lisab says:

      that “universal coverage” provides better healthcare

      often it does

      if you sprain your ankle or need an anti-biotic, univeral healthcare is great

      that is why we have free/low cost clinics in poor neighborhoods

    36. lisab says:

      usa updated to 100 deaths from 79 btw

    37. lisab says:

      usa updated to 101 deaths

      they updated again

    38. Victrc says:

      Jason, respectfully, we are not behind the curve with regards to Spain, France, UK or Netherlands. If you look at when deaths began to increase there, they were all around March 10, which is the exact date we began to see increases.

      I will give you Italy and Iran, but we will never reach the number of deaths per M, or on a percentage rate as they do.

      I feel, when all is said and done, I bet we do not get to 30% of what these countries combines will have.

      Respectfully 😉

    39. dblaikie says:

      For me the most interesting number in the world is India. High population density in the world with over a billion people. Yet only have 606 cases with 11 deaths. What they do have is hot weather!

    40. Pitchaboy says:

      Multiple issues with India(my country of birth):
      1. Average age close to 40
      2. Very hot from March to May
      3. Mortality numbers from villages lag behind: but population density in villages low.

      I do believe they were noticing an upward trend which led to the drastic measure of a 3 week shutdown.

    41. jason says:

      Sorry Vic, you can’t look at absolute number of deaths because Europe is ahead of us on the curve by 10 days at least. Only the UK would be comparable But even under your argument you included 2 countries that are not even under dispute as being ahead in the curve like Italy and Iran.

      So you are comparing apples and oranges.

      Now, I agree our total number of deaths at the end could lower than a universe of other countries totaling 330 million people if they include Italy, Spain, France and Iran. But you could also mix and match other countries, say Germany and Austria and Russia and others and come up with 330 million people with a lower combined death total than the US.

    42. Phil says:

      Pitch, do you think the hot weather makes a difference? I have read articles both ways.

    43. jason says:

      usa updated to 100 deaths from 79 btw”

      Let us hope it is less than 350 by the end of the day.

      If it is, the rate of increase will be lower than yesterday.

    44. Pitchaboy says:

      I think it does. Traveling through hot, humid air is tough on viruses. And when they fall on hot surfaces it disrupts their protein structure. I don’t think there is much of a difference between 50 and 70 degrees. But 90 degree weather, yes.

    45. jason says:

      France’s numbers are in, they don’t look too bad either.

      More cases but slower rate of increase, fewer deaths.

      Yesterday + 2448 + 240
      Today + 2929 + 231

    46. jason says:

      It is 86F today in Houston!

    47. NYCmike says:

      Hope it continues for India – i read an article somewhere that leads me to believe their numbers may skyrocket shortly.

    48. NYCmike says:

      Pitchaboy chimed in before me – hope you are correct.

    49. VictrC says:

      90 here in Austin/SA. Which is good.

      I was going to play golf today in a group we have here and was heading there, but then realized that many of the guys are seniors (group has players who are +3 all the way to 20 handicap). Anyway, I thought better of it. Why be selfish and take the chance….so back to painting the spare room LOL

      Jason. Fair points, though if I were Trump I would still play that up. With regards to Germany they immediately isolated those over 60 and I think that was absolutely brilliant. I think we could have done there here, in say Louisiana where there is an outbreak and it would have helped. Washington was too early for us to have done that.

      NYC, who knows.Someplace that dense combined with stubbornness was bound to become a hot spot

    50. Cash Cow TM says:

      “…If we get a big dump from NY later it could…”

      You did get a “big dump” from Cash Cow this morning..
      (it was steamy)

    51. NYCmike says:

      “NYC, who knows.Someplace that dense combined with stubbornness was bound to become a hot spot”

      -Unfortunately – density, stubbornness, and a huge reliance on social welfare, instead of family – I am close to Newark, NJ, and we are hearing sirens all day and night long.

    52. Country Dick Montana says:


      Louisiana is a hot mess right now 65 deaths, 34 of them 70 and older. 44 of them in New Orleans metro area.

    53. Big Joe says:

      Awright, Dave is alive!

      Big Joe

    54. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      On https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

      If you go to the country page above- its a real time view of the day so far – updates constantly. It rolls over at midnight GMT (8p Eastern).

      If you go into the countries, at least the charts, they are 1 day behind

    55. NYCmike says:

      “44 of them in New Orleans metro area.”

      -Yup, same situation as in NYC area.

    56. NYCmike says:

      “NYC, who knows.Someplace that dense combined with stubbornness was bound to become a hot spot”

      -Oh, were you speaking TO ME?

      Or about NYC?

      Either way, I answered about NYC

    57. Big Joe says:


      Nice move scooping up Boeing. It’s been too risky for me, but it’s a classic high risk – high reward play. I do see some down pressure on the broader market coming though in the short term. I think we re-test the lows over next week or two.

      As a long term play, you really can’t go wrong on any high quality low debt company.

      Big Joe

    58. VictrC says:

      Big Joe

      Boeing was/is a no brainer. It was trading above 400, the 737 Max will get recertified shortly and deliveries will start. That combined with an injection from the Federal government means they won’t have to rely as heavily on the $15B they have access to.

      There is no way that the government lets the lone commercial aircraft manufacturer in the USA falter. Forget about all the military work they do and it adds up to a great long term buy.

      As well, I’d rather fly on a Boeing jet any day rather than an Airbus which just waits to see what Boeing does, then tries to copy it…poorly. 😉

    59. lisab says:

      Sorry Vic, you can’t look at absolute number of deaths because Europe is ahead of us on the curve by 10 days at least.


      but we had our first reported case BEFORE France or Italy did

    60. Victrc says:

      Nice, so it appears that the Dems slipped in a provision that means that anyone making less than about $25 an hour or less will actually make more on unemployment, meaning they have no incentive to return to work for the next…wait for it….9 months (right after the election).

      You can’t make this crap up. And of course Sanders has said if they revise that then he is going to hold up the entire bill and ask for more restrictions on corporations.

      Talk about buying votes.

    61. Tina says:

      And the sheot show continues….

      Brent Scher
      · 3h
      The @JoeBiden campaign disabled the comments section on his ongoing livestream, which has thus far failed to get more than a few hundred viewers.

    62. jason says:

      but we had our first reported case BEFORE France or Italy did”

      Doesn’t matter.

      What matter is when it started to increase exponentially.

      Look at the Daily Case Graph for Italy and the US. You can see Italy starting an exponential increase around Feb 29. For the US around March 10.



    63. Tina says:

      They need to strip funding from them

      Erick Erickson
      Told y’all this would happen and it has everything to do with the President’s approval rating doing up and not what he’s saying. They put up with the President saying stuff for weeks till the polling came out.
      Quote Tweet

      Reid Wilson
      · 5h
      Seattle’s NPR station won’t air White House briefings because of “a pattern of false or misleading information” https://twitter.com/KUOW/status/1242576246271119360

    64. Tina says:

      Yes, another leftist rule collapses.

      · 41m
      BREAKING: Massachusetts governor bans the use of reusable shopping bags and mandates stores do not charge for plastic or paper bags – WCVB

    65. jason says:

      Italy now has 4 days of new cases below the peak of March 21.

      If we are 10 days behind, this means maybe in 6 days we could peak.

      Yeah, a lot of variables, but it might be something to look for.

    66. Victrc says:

      64, Yet Democrats wanted to give stations like NPR $300,000,000. The true Pravda

    67. Tina says:

      Trumps pressers are not ratings.

      12.2 million vs a few hundred for chuck.

      6.2 million on Fox News alone.

    68. Tina says:

      Hot ratings*

    69. jason says:

      What time is the briefing?

    70. Tina says:

      Sorry, the 12.2 million figure is just the cable audience.

      You have to add a few more million wi5 the alphabet channels.

    71. jason says:

      But if he mentions the “incredible hospital ships” one more time I will have to jump off the barn

    72. NYCmike says:

      “You have to add a few more million wi5 the alphabet channels.”

      -A few million? I thought the network ratings are at the least double the cable channels?

    73. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The Nevada governor needs to realized its one thing to listen to rhetoric, but you do not act on it. Cuomo is making experimental treatments readily available.

    74. Tina says:

      Ny, I got it from this tweet and it does seem low.

      So 15 million+ vs 400 for China Biden, who closed his comment board.

      Michael M. Grynbaum
      Cable news viewership for the daily Trump briefing is eye-popping: 12.2 million on Monday, with 6.2 million watching on Fox News *alone.*

      Millions more are tuning in via ABC, CBS, NBC, and online streaming sites.

    75. NYCmike says:

      Trying to get some comparative numbers, found this from 12/28/19:


      “At least 300 people died from the flu in the week ended Dec. 21.”

    76. NYCmike says:

      Thanks Tina.

      Odd wording.

      I’ll try to find that info better written out.

    77. NYCmike says:

      ““At least 300 people died from the flu in the week ended Dec. 21.””

      -Believe that is a national number, not NYC alone.

    78. PresidentPaul! says:


      Ca says 1 million have filed for jobless claims if this hints at what it will be tomorrow for the country as a whole.

    79. Tina says:

      Coronavirus taskforce stadting now.

    80. PresidentPaul! says:


      Bumbling Joe Now Claims He Was Ivy League Professor After Leaving Senate, Forgetting 8 Years of Being VP (VIDEO)

    81. NYCmike says:


      That isn’t surprising at all.

      The number is going to be huge.

    82. lisab says:

      PR Disaster: President Xi Forgets To Remove ‘Made In China’ Tags From Coronavirus

    83. PresidentPaul! says:

      BREAKING: Ford Motor Company’s credit rating cut to junk by S&P.


      (And the Unions are insisting on not working right now to help them out.)

    84. Tina says:

      Ny, put another way:

      Michael M. Grynbaum
      · 3h
      NEW: Trump’s virus briefings are scoring “Monday Night Football”-level ratings. But should TV networks be covering them live? https://nyti.ms/39dZPJ2

    85. jason says:

      “Get a grippe America. The flu is a much bigger threat than Coronavirus for now”


    86. jason says:

      The Daily Beast

      Coronavirus, with zero American fatalities, is dominating headlines, while the flu is the real threat

    87. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      This from a member of AOC’s staff:

      Saikat Chakrabarti
      I helped write the #GreenNewDeal and I think this is ridiculous. The tiny little emissions standard increase doesn’t even do anything meaningful to stave off climate change and gives the @GOP leverage to get rid of real help for working people. Solve the problem at hand.

      Speaker Pelosi: “There is a whole concern in our country that if we’re giving tens of billions of dollars to the airlines, that we could at least have a shared value about what happens to the environment.”

    88. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      A succinct quote:

      “At some point we need to stop delaying the curve and start building herd.”

    89. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      If you search for Biden on Twitter right now, the first suggestion is “biden dead”. Probably not a good sign

    90. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      It would not suprise me that once the primaries end, and Biden has a lock on the nomination, Biden indicates he no longer wants it. This will be after the Democratic power brokers have agreed to a replacement.

    91. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Kathy Griffin, 59, is rushed to the ER with chest pains but says she is not allowed to get tested for COVID-19 before blaming Donald Trump


      We may have a woman for Proud Obamacon – assuming he’s into that

    92. PresidentPaul! says:

      This video of Biden saying he became a professor is nuts


    93. Tina says:


      How many deaths are acceptable, mr President?

    94. jason says:


      These people are completely unhinged.

    95. Tina says:

      Trump to presstitute

      None, if that is your question.

      Also, checks to be mailed out in 3 weeks.

    96. Phil says:

      That’s probably pretty close to what the Biden bow out will look like, SD…..and yes, it will not happen until a replacement is agreed on. The finding of a replacement process behind the scenes has already begun. Biden will be gone by the convention.

      The MSM will hold off on any discussion of this until their Democratic puppet masters have the orchestrated roll out ready to go, and then, and only then, at the most advantageous time possible, Joe will announce his “sudden” bow out.

      Anyone with half a brain can see this coming. Joe’s mental behavior has become apparent to everyone and, with the virus crisis front and center, Democratic heavy hitters know they can’t sell a senile elder as someone who can be POTUS. It has become obvious he’s too far gone. Joe’s out whether he knows it or not. Every reason to believe the process has already begun.

    97. jason says:

      I am optimistic we won’t get to 13700 new cases and 350 deaths today. But a few more hours to go.

    98. jason says:


      Joe Lockhart:

      Another day and another day @realDonaldTrump has not left the White House to see first hand what’s going on in the country. No visit to see first responders or ER docs or nurses. No visit to a small business that’s repurposing to help the cause. King in the Ivory Tower.”

      Anyone want to bet that if Trump went anywhere they would accuse him of campaigning or hindering?

    99. jason says:

      Maybe he should go to an ICU in a hospital and walk around shaking hands.

    100. Cash Cow TM says:


      Penn paid Biden north of $700,000….”but he did not teach a class…but one of his duties was to expand their “global outreach’?

    101. NYCmike says:

      “Anyone with half a brain can see this coming.”


      Messy was here earlier pushing for Joe to keep on keepin’ on!

    102. Tina says:

      We must ban these pressers.

      Gabriel Sherman
      · 48m
      Trump is literally turning all 3 cable news networks into State TV. Live daily campaign rallies for the president to strengthen his hold on power. Unprecedented departure from American norms.

    103. Tina says:

      On second thought, wouldn’t the presstitutes love state tv?

    104. NYCmike says:

      “On second thought, wouldn’t the presstitutes love state tv?”

      -Of course they would…..IF someone like Obama was President.

      These *sswipes would leave the camera on the whole time, with music playing, and a notice saying “___ more hours until President Obama speaks THE TRUTH to us once again. Please prostrate yourself until HE speaks.”

    105. Tina says:

      M.Joseph Sheppard
      Update#3 RCP Trump Approval Highest Ever
      Recent Aggregate 48%

      Harris Poll (AV) 54%
      HarrisX 50%
      Gallup (All Voters) 49%
      Monmouth 48%
      Economist 47% +3
      YouGov 46%
      GBAO (Dem +6) 46%
      Rasmussen 46%
      Emerson 46%

    106. Phil says:

      Joe tells Bernie no more debates.

      In fairness to Joe, he is consistent. He won’t want any debates with Trump either. Hide, Joe.

      Of course, he will never set foot on the debate stage with Trump anyway. He will have long since have been given the hook so it’s all academic.

    107. jason says:

      Birx agrees with me on Italy!

      “We’re looking at the Italy data. I think we’re — we’re encouraged over the last few days to watch the number of deaths starting to decline,” Birx said. “That will be our first indicator that what we put in place and what they put in place in Italy three weeks ago is starting to have — or two weeks ago is starting to have an impact now. Because deaths are a measure of what you did two and three weeks ago, not what you did now.”

    108. jason says:

      Can you imagine someone from the MSM ever asking Obama “how many deaths do you find acceptable”?

    109. VictrC says:

      So the press continues to denigrate Trump’s response, especially the higher his poll numbers get.

      The question is will they cover the fact that he was very conciliatory and willing to give the Democrats credit for getting this done, or will they only report that it was becuse of the Dems that this got done and that Trump is still awful.

      I’m guessing the latter.

    110. George says:

      What’s more likely?
      1. In the near future Cuomo greets Trump at the NYC Airport thanking him warmly for all the support he has given to New York? (ala Christie and Obama)
      2. Hell freezes over.

    111. jason says:

      Pravdas now will decide what a lie is…

      “NBC and CNN producers say they’re through airing Trump’s virus pressers. “We might take it from the top and then cut away after the first lie, and return when the lies stop.”

    112. jason says:

      I am sure if it was Obama they would be checking for “lies”.

    113. Phil says:

      No more pressers for Trump’s task force on CNN and NBC because they aren’t truthful. Got it. That’s because both networks have been about nothing but the truth over the last three years. They value the truth alright.

      To be fair, however, we can expect both networks to shy away from covering Joe’s briefings as well. Why? I think we all know why.

      BTW, where’s the commie troll today? Oh yeah. He’s “working”.

    114. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil – Is Biden being replaced as inevitable as Harris…then Warren….then Sanders being the nominee?

    115. Scooterboy says:

      113. If they quit carrying the pressers, it’s their loss. From what I’ve seen the ratings have been very high.

      The public wants information. They’ll just seek out another network.

      NBC & CNN’s loss will be someone else’s gain.

    116. Bitterlaw says:


      Scooter is just happy that there are no cars to park since the A-hole Clubhouse was shut down.

    117. jason says:

      CNN calls today deadliest day but actually fewer deaths than yesterday.

      164 today vs. 225 yesterday


    118. jason says:

      I don’t think Biden will be necessarily replaced before the election unless he really implodes.

      I don’t think there is any more doubt he is impaired however. The problems are just too many.

      If you can’t even do a scripted event from you own library with a teleprompter….

    119. jason says:

      I hope Trump is right and we can open the A-hole Clubhouse for the traditional Easter celebration.

    120. jason says:

      hil – Is Biden being replaced as inevitable as Harris…then Warren….then Sanders being the nominee?”

      Phil tell Bitter to GFH, that you have to right sooner or later.

    121. lisab says:

      164 today vs. 225 yesterday


    122. Phil says:

      I don’t know, bitter. You tell me. You’ve seen Joe in action. We all have. Do you think Democrats are going to stay with someone who is showing more mental deterioration with each passing day? Do you believe they think voters are going to not notice his clear decline over the next seven plus months and if they do they are still going to put him in the WH?

      I don’t. Democrats don’t prioritize anything but winning. Once someone looks like a loser they no longer have any use for him or her. They must be removed for the good of the cause…always it is about the cause.

      Unless Joe somehow miraculously shows actual decent cognitive function over the next 230 days (dementia gets worse with the passage of time, never better) then he gets thrown under the bus.

      Maybe Joe rebounds from his mental fog in which case Democrats decide to stay with Joe. However, you have to ask yourself, how likely is that?

    123. jason says:

      I take it back, just updated

      245 deaths today vs. 225 yesterday

      + 13347 cases vs. + 11075 yesterday

      However, that is a drop in the rate of increase for both stats.

      And in NY

      + 5473 cases vs. +6618 today

      + 114 deaths yesterday + 95 today

    124. Bitterlaw says:

      People see what they want to see, Phil. I don’t see Biden having dementia. I see an old, uncool dude who gets spooked by technology and slips up when he speaks too fast. He is not like my aunt was with dementia. It is a waste of time trying to predict what Democrats think or will do because are not Democrats. Always play like you are 10 points down in the 4th quarter. If Trump’s team thinks the key to victory is to treat Biden like a senile old man, Trump loses. Fortunately, they don’t seem to be following that strategy.

    125. Phil says:

      Let’s face it, there isn’t going to be much if any change in the trajectory US infections and deaths for the next couple of weeks if you go by the time lines of what we’ve seen in Italy, Spain etc. A couple of possible threads of hope, however – warmer weather and possible drug treatments. Those are just maybes as of right now, however.

    126. Phil says:

      For whatever reason we do have a much lower death percentage than almost all of the other countries. That’s certainly something to be thankful for.

    127. jason says:

      I don’t particularly “want” to see Biden have dementia, but I don’t see how you can ignore the evidence.

      And his slips up have nothing to do with speaking fast, his speech is actually halting, not fast.

      Anyway, I think it will just get worse, Biden is actually benefiting from the opportunity to be out of the limelight and hidden.

    128. Bitterlaw says:

      I do not want anybody to die. I just thought that if I was going to be trapped at home for weeks, more hell would be breaking loose around me. The apocalypse is so…..boring.

    129. jason says:

      THat is one stat that actually looks worse tonight.

      The mortality rate is 1.5% now. Possibly due to the cluster in Louisiana.

      Let’s see tomorrow if it improves.

    130. Paul says:

      Iceland has tested the largest percentage of their population. There findings showed that half of the people who were positive for COVID19 had no symptoms at all. If you look at Iceland’s total of cases and total deaths, you end up with 0.2%. Overall, they have too small number to read that much into it. But, it suggests that the death rate is much lower. And the number of people infected considerably larger. There is a colorado county that will be testing everyone for the COVID19 antibodies. That will give a good idea of what we are dealing with.

    131. Scooterboy says:

      Yes, I’m thankful I don’t have to park cars. But making me completely sanitize the clubhouse? Seriously? You Bastards haven’t even been in there in over two weeks. GFY’s !!!!

    132. Messy says:

      Thanks Dave.

    133. Country Dick Montana says:


      PA Governor Wolf allows gun stores to open. This was even after the PA Supreme Court threw out a lawsuit against the Governor, (which apparently was done on procedural grounds.)

      Justice David Wecht and 2 other justices dissented the opinion:

      Wolf’s order amounts to “an absolute and indefinite prohibition upon the acquisition of firearms by the citizens of this commonwealth — a result in clear tension with the Second Amendment” and the state constitution.

      So, I wonder what made him change his mind?

    134. Country Dick Montana says:


      400K jobless claims in PA. If this is true it is going to be absolutely bloody when the national numbers are released.

      Civil disobedience and unrest coming if the Dems don’t allow people to go back to work. Quarantine the elderly and sick, but let the US get on with its work.

    135. Country Dick Montana says:

      From what I can see this morning NYC has 2580 of NY 366 deaths. NYC has a death rate of 33.3/million. As comparison Iran is 26.9/million. Italy is 114/million and Spain is 87/million.

      US is at 3.1/million. All areas out side of NYC are 2.3/million.

    136. Country Dick Montana says:

      NYC has 280 deaths, not 2580

    137. Hugh says:

      138. True

    138. BayernFan says:

      3.82 million

    139. jason says:

      PA Governor Wolf allows gun stores to open.”

      It was stupid to start with. The gun stores were already taking precautions like limiting access to one person at a time.

    140. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #143: Not that it matters with these high numbers, but the correct figure is 3.28 million.

    141. jason says:


      “The Morning Briefing: Senate Unanimously Passes Coronavirus Relief Bill—Someone Should Check on Granny Boxwine”

    142. jason says:

      Hopefully Italy will see the same trend today as the last 4 days.

      We are roughly ten days behind Italy. If Italy really did peak 5 days ago, we might see the same pattern here soon.

      Dr. Birx seemed to imply that yesterday.

    143. jason says:

      The luster of Biden as “THE” electable Dem might be coming off a bit.

    144. jason says:

      You Bastards haven’t even been in there in over two weeks. GFY’s !!!!”

      Scooter has certainly become a real A-hole.

      Yes, I take part of the credit.

    145. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Interesting counterpoint from WSJ:

      Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say?


      The epidemic started in China sometime in November or December. The first confirmed U.S. cases included a person who traveled from Wuhan on Jan. 15, and it is likely that the virus entered before that: Tens of thousands of people traveled from Wuhan to the U.S. in December. Existing evidence suggests that the virus is highly transmissible and that the number of infections doubles roughly every three days. An epidemic seed on Jan. 1 implies that by March 9 about six million people in the U.S. would have been infected. As of March 23, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there were 499 Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. If our surmise of six million cases is accurate, that’s a mortality rate of 0.01%, assuming a two week lag between infection and death. This is one-tenth of the flu mortality rate of 0.1%. Such a low death rate would be cause for optimism.

    146. jason says:

      According to Italy’s public health research agency, 60% of coronavirus cases and 70% of deaths in the country so far have been in men.”

      You would think it should be the other way arount.

      Since women live to be older there are probably a lot more 70+ aged women in Italy than men, and since most of the fatalities are 70+ there should be more women dying than men.

    147. Pitchaboy says:

      Even in the US more men are dropping dead. While smoking was blamed for the disparity in China and Italy, other factors may be in play. The rate of increase in hospitalization is down 50% in NY. Rate of doubling of new cases also slowing down. Cautious optimism. Nobody knows what the true denominator is and therefore, all models are conjecture for now. Watch the rate of rise in hospitalization and new cases and deaths for now.

    148. dblaikie says:

      Good morning folks. I am still amazed by the numbers coming out of India. Only 59 new cases. Now I know that they are under lock down, but in a country with 1.4 billion people and when I consider the slums of Dehli and Mumbai a lock down can’t be that effective. So unless they are lying about their cases, I have to conclude that the virus is sensitive to heat and malaria drugs, which are common in India is having an effect.

      And I find it reasonable when that fellow who won the Nobel Prize from Stanford says that the Diamond Princess was a great study of the effects of the virus. 4000 were together for a number of days with virus going through the ship. 712 were infected and there were 10 deaths. About 1.2 percent. However the average of the folks on the cruise was quite high. By the way, as of today India has had only 4 more cases than the Diamond Princess.

    149. dblaikie says:

      average age of the folks on the cruise was quite high.

    150. dblaikie says:

      The Media is in huge trouble in this country. If Chorolquine mixed antibiotic is even mildly effective the media will implode. Too many people are tuned into the briefings.

      I thought it was huge when Dr. Fucci (spelling) claimed that he would prescribe this medicine for himself or his family. I also find it telling that Physicians all across the fruited plane are stocking up on this medicine for themselves and for their families.

      Frankly I don’t believe that CNN or MSNBC or the NYT’s will be able to survive under their current leadership if the medicine is proven even mildly effective. In addition the Nevada Gov. will be toast and Nevada will turn red.

    151. Pitchaboy says:

      As I said yesterday, India is a young populace and reliable data from the 40 pct that live in the villages is hard to come by. They cannot get away with lying as the Prime Minister is a conservative who is hated by the rabid Indian media more than Trump out here(if that is possible). If their numbers hold up the next couple of weeks, Mr. Modi has pulled off a miracle. More than the warmth the UV radiation from the summer sun kills the bug. And most Indians don’t wear sun block

    152. Pitchaboy says:

      The chief of diabetes epedemiology at Emory is my classmate from medical school and he is on the advisory panel of public health in India. They are developing a cheap “test at home” kit and India has banned export of chloroquine

    153. dhblaikie says:

      But Dr Pitch (I say that with respect) the media still tells that this drug is harmful and Trump is killing people with it through false hope.

      And thanks for the info on India. If the virus has community spread in a place like Mumbai and if it wasn’t sensitive to heat can you imagine the number of cases?

    154. Pitchaboy says:

      I have any number of patients with rheumatoid arthritis and lupus that take HCQ 400 mg daily for their disease. We keep a close watch on their eyes for toxicity. Giving it over 5 to 10 days should be fine. When you combine it with Z pack, you keep a watch n ECG of cardiac patients

    155. Pitchaboy says:

      Media in communist countries are state run. Media in democratic countries like US and India are way out left. They have become biased and useless.

    156. Tgca says:

      This bill doesn’t go far enough folks. Sorry! We need more spending. Much more. The grand kids can pay for it so let’s not miss this opportunity to make a difference now.

      Where’s the money for replacement Obama phones?

      Where’s the money for transgender reassignment surgery?

      Where’s the money to guarantee a living wage for everyone, regardless if you work or not?

      This is the time for reparations to fuel economic spending so where’s that money?

      Where’s the money for Hollywood now that movie and TV filming is halted?

      I’m afraid the GOP Senate is out of touch.

      Blue wave coming folks. BLUE WAVE!!!

    157. Tgca says:


      Yo Jadon. I will trade you a pint of organic maple syrup for a box of bullets. I only have a box of 100 left over here in the sewer state. Ruger SR9 here.

      Damn! I should have gone to FL as I planned a few weeks back. Now I’m stuck here.

    158. Tgca says:

      I think I may need to give up the veggie diet for a bit and start hunting for food if the stores run out of essential necessities like tofu, sprouts, and wheat grass. Lots of squirrels and rabbits around here.

      I took an archery class once but forgot to get archery supplies so have to use my gun range skills.

    159. Victrc says:

      I just watched the Pelosi news conference and the amount of lies and distortions is absolutely scary.

      If CNN and MSNBC cur away from Trump because they say he lies then what the hell will they do with Pelosi. I don’t even know where to start.

      She took credit for every provision in the bill that was written way before her obstruction. She actually took credit saying her members wrote the small business provisions. Yes. They reduced it from 4 months with expenses to only 2.5 months of payroll coverage for small businesses!!!

      She had the audacity to say Republicans wanted to take away the $600 extra unemployment when all they wanted was for workers to get what they were making before NOT A FRIGFIN RAISE TO NOT WORK!!! Goes to show their priorities.

    160. dblaikie says:

      Nancy has truly become the “Emperor without clothes.”

    161. Marco Rubio says:

      I made Nanthy Pelothy my bitch last night.

      Fwiends, thank you for your thupport!

    162. Tina says:

      5 pm est presser.

    163. VictrC says:

      BTW for anyone who thought Bernie wasn’t a full on Communist, that’s been put to rest. He specifically put in the bill the clause to get people paid MORE to not work than to work.

      He is the Liberal dream. More money to sit on my ass and let others pay me to not work is exactly what his base, the AOC of the world want. Money for nothing. So you can bet that unemployment numbers will stay high until July 31 because the Dem base will be sitting on their ass making more in unemployment than going to work.

    164. Bitterlaw says:

      Day 8 working from home. Still sucks,

    165. Bitterlaw says:

      NYC – Are you able to make deliveries? Is your business on the essential list? I hope so. There must be almost no traffic in the city now.

    166. Country Dick Montana says:

      169 – Did they really leave that in? I thought that several senators were trying to get rid of it, calling it a “drafting error.” I know Bernie threatened to hold the bill up if it wasn’t in there.

    167. NYCmike says:

      “NYC – Are you able to make deliveries? Is your business on the essential list? I hope so. There must be almost no traffic in the city now.”

      -Hey Bitterlaw,

      Appreciate you asking, that is very thoughtful.

      YES, we are essential! Actually delivered medical supplies to the Javits this morning. FIRST TIME we didn’t wait for hours trying to make a delivery to that convention center.

      Our drivers, ALL of them, look to have gained 10 years of youth, as the absence of traffic has made their jobs 100% easier than before.

      They almost, ALMOST, feel guilty about it!

      We have been very lucky, and hope it stays that way…..but then again, we are a very small firm, so the chances are better that we are unaffected.

      We didn’t make many changes, but we did give all of the drivers gloves & chlorox wipes for the past 3 weeks. We also started taking pictures of the delivered freight instead of getting signatures, and then emailing the pics to the interested parties, to limit interactions.

      So far so good!

    168. NYCmike says:


      How is your wife feeling? Just a cold?

    169. DW says:

      I like how the VA page works for corona data…helps people put it into perspective:

      People tested: 6,189
      Number of cases: 460
      Number of hospitalizations: 65
      Deaths: 13

      So what this means is there were over 5,500 people who have a cold or flu and so they got tested but did not have Carona.

      Then of the 460 that do have it, only 65 had to go to the hospital. 13 of those have died, no doubt due to pre-existing complications.

    170. NYCmike says:

      “Day 8 working from home. Still sucks,”

      -My wife is loving it! She has always been a bit of an introvert. She loves conversation, but prefers individual chats, or small settings, compared to large gatherings, so she is thriving in this new reality.

      Funny thing though today – school she works for had a meeting this morning, all of the teachers and aides were on the zoom chat, started 7:30AM.

      She listened to others speaking for the first 89 minutes and 50 seconds, then the principal got around to her, as she is just a part time counselor. She said “Good morning. Well, I have been preparin…” and then the feed went dead.

      The meeting had been scheduled for 90 minutes.

    171. DW says:

      I wish that the pages that show the running count of corona diagnoses, hospitalizations, and deaths, would also show influenza diagnoses, hospitalizations, and deaths, as sort of a side-by-side.

    172. Phil says:

      Yeah, DW. Me too. It would be enlightening and no doubt serve to put a lot of this in perspective.

    173. VictrC says:


      It was 100% left in there. On the floor Bernie said that hwy are Republicans against the poor making a few extra “bucks” an hour when were giving them $500B in giveaways for CEO bonuses. I kid you not.

      Afterwards Democrats said it wasn’t a drafting error, they put it in there to protect the working class. BS, it was a drafting error and the Dems took advantage of it.

      so now, if you were making $10 an hour ($400 a week), you will now get about $250 a week in unemployment plus $600 a week extra, so more than double your salary ($850 a week to stay home even after the crisis is over) until July 31. So you can expect unemployment numbers to stay high until August becuse anyone making less than $25 an hour has no incentive to go back to work.

      Now you will be rolling the dice because businesses will find someone to take your place if you don’t come back.

      But this is what the AOC crowd wants, no work, make $40K a year or more to stay at home and talk about how bad people who are successful are and how to take it away from them.

    174. Country Dick Montana says:

      179-Unbeleivable. Hopefully when a company calls someone back and they refuse to work then they will lose their unemployment. I have been on it once and I had to keep looking.

    175. VictrC says:

      And this peach was just found in the language

      $350M for illegal aliens. You got that right, $350M to help illegal immigrants un the guise of “Migrant and refugee assistance”. I kid you not

      $15M for Vets which the Dems pushed down from over $100M to this amount in order to get their other projects in, but they made sure to get money in for illegal immigrants.

      It’s shameful

    176. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      The Babylon Bee

      Pelosi Delays Stimulus Package Until Her New Souvenir Pens Come In https://buff.ly/2UAD2BY

    177. jason says:

      This sums it up:

      “Senate Passes Coronavirus Bill, Proving Pelosi Gambled With Americans’ Lives and Lost”

    178. Tina says:

      Spain bought 675000 tests for coronavirus from China.

      They don’t work.

    179. jason says:

      Yo Jadon. I will trade you a pint of organic maple syrup for a box of bullets. I only have a box of 100 left over here in the sewer state. Ruger SR9 here.”

      No deal.

      What else ya got?

    180. jason says:

      Ruger SR9 here.”

      One Ruger and 100 rounds? In Philadelphia?

      Man, you aren’t going to last long are you?

      Save at least one round, and maybe one for the dog.

    181. Paul says:

      Pennsylvania had gun stores close!!!

      Even the socialist state of Illinois hasn’t gone that far. Liquor, guns, food and petcare are essential.

    182. BayernFan says:

      When we are finally allowed to get out will everything be in Chinese?

    183. jason says:

      They weren’t closed.

      Wolf is a moron, has been forced to backtrack on several stupid decisions.

    184. jason says:

      · 20h

      I hear that Fake News CNN just reported that I am isolated in the White House, wondering out loud, “when will life return to normal?” Does anybody really believe that? There was no leak, they made it up – they are CORRUPT & FAKE NEWS….

      ….I have been packed all day with meetings, I have no time for stupidity. We’re working around the clock to KEEP AMERICA SAFE!

    185. jason says:

      When we are finally allowed to get out will everything be in Chinese?”

      Heavens, no, what a thought.


    186. NYCmike says:

      I am beginning to believe that the head of CNN actually WANTS Trump to remain President another 4 years…….there are not that many other explanations for how bad they look and how good they make Trump look.

    187. Victrc says:

      Funny comment about everything being in Chinese reminds me of how things are in Africa right now.

      I was in Zambia recently (literally the middle of Africa) and on the way into town from the airport most signs were in Chinese. No joke. And we passed new village/compound after compound of Chinese nationals with walls around the villages/compounds. This is repeated time after time all over Africa as the Chinese colonize it and steal the natural resources by making the countries dependent on them for money.

      The oddest thing ever, and saddest.

    188. Phil says:

      Thinking the same thing, Mike. CNN’s credibility is shot.

    189. Tina says:

      Matt Batzel
      · 15m
      Hearing a New Wisconsin Poll will be released by Restoration PAC tomorrow showing Trump’s lead growing on Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders. Trump’s job approval continues to rise in recent days as he shows leadership in handling coronavirus and holds daily briefings #wiright #maga

    190. Tina says:

      Has China Biden did his presser today? Or is it canceled?

      Making he can top 2000 viewers today?

    191. Pitchaboy says:

      The Belt and Road Initiative has made China the new colonial power

    192. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Trump 47% (+4)
      Biden 43%

      Trump 47% (+2)
      Biden 45%

      Trump 45%
      Biden 45%

      Biden 47% (+5)
      Trump 42%


    193. SoHope says:

      Now that an congressional aid has accused Biden of sexually assaulting her are we still supposed to “Believe all women”?

    194. jason says:

      Unbelievable.. guy partly responsible for the panic who forecast 500k deaths in the UK now revises estimate to 20k and says 10k were going to die anyway by the end of the year due to serious medical conditions.

      Should be executed after a fair trial.


    195. Phil says:

      I’ve written a lot of posts recently predicting Joe won’t be the nominee.

      What I haven’t stated is how badly I want to be wrong. He is an extraordinarily weak candidate and getting weaker by the day. People watching this crisis can’t help but visualize him trying to manage something like this and no amount of soft ball interviews from the likes of hacks like Nicole Wallace are going to change that.

    196. Hunter says:

      So Pelosi did a great thing of Marxifying the bill.

      The Obama troll was right. Pelosi does not get intimidated.

      Amazing that she got her Communist provisions into the bill.

      We just bent over for Nancy Pelosi.

    197. Phil says:

      All of a sudden the media is on a story about Joe sexually abusing an aide? LOL.

      He’s been a candidate for a year and nothing. Why now?

      The powers that be in the Democratic Party want him gone. This “sudden” story is just the beginning of the effort to get him out.

      Expect more of this stuff until Joe agrees to leave quietly. This sort of stuff isn’t being leaked out there by the Republicans. Too early for that. Democrats at the top are behind this and it will only get worse for Biden.

      You may as well go quietly, Joe. The Democratic Party has ways and means. Ha.

    198. mRviTO says:

      A daily reminder that PO has been caught going by Suzyque, Charles, hunter, and greymarch among others.

    199. DW says:

      Put another way, the corona virus is the huge plane crash that consumes all the news and has people saying they will never fly again, while influenza is no-news every day car crash that kills 3 here, 2 there, 4 in this town, 1 in that town, day after day, and over time accumulates to far more deaths than the annual plane crash that has everyone worked up.

    200. DW says:

      206 – no doubt there are burial plots available right next to Vince Foster.

    201. jason says:

      So my number for today is 16,370 in the US.

      Anything lower would be a drop in the rate of increase.

      But we are already at +10800.

      On the other hand deaths so far at +116 for today at 3PM.

      It was +245 yesterday.

    202. jason says:

      I’m going to, Barack, significantly increase the number of pell grants that are out there. A pell grant is a family basically less than $50,000 you’re able to get at the time, it was less than six but it raised it to $6000,” said Biden.

      Bitter to say he is talking too fast in 3, 2, 1..

      Seriously Bitter, read that and tell me there is no problem.

    203. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      206. Agree, the Democratic establishment is in the process of pushing Biden out, but they also want to make sure they have enough delegates to prevent Sanders from getting the nomination. Cuomo may be in the bullpin.

    204. NYCmike says:

      Netanyahu back in?

    205. jason says:

      Here are the details on the purported Biden assault.

      I will say what I always say. You can’t destroy someone’s career based on one uncorroborated account, or even more than one. It would just be too easy to find politically motivated people to lie.

      I think you have to just admit sometimes you will let guilty parties slip through in the interest of not destroying a lot more lives with bogus charges.

      This not a novel concept btw. We allow a lot of rapists and murderers to get away with their crimes in the interest of not condemning innocent people.


    206. jason says:

      This is not to say I don’t think Biden is a creep. I think he is.

      But his candidacy should not be derailed by this one account.

    207. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      217. “When a woman alleges sexual assault, presume she is telling the truth” Joe Biden

    208. NYCmike says:

      “217. “When a woman alleges sexual assault, presume she is telling the truth” Joe Biden”

      -My sister used to say to me, “If I ever get attacked, search the hospitals for a man without any eyeballs, because my nails will be aimed right for them!”.

    209. jason says:

      Proud Obamacommunist, aka Roadkill Maggot, hardest hit:

      “Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro was charged with federal drug trafficking crimes as part of a far-reaching U.S. investigation involving prosecutors in New York, Washington and Miami, officials said Thursday.

      Attorney General William Barr announced the extraordinary action Thursday, saying charges were filed against more than a dozen other current and former Venezuelan officials, including the country’s Supreme Court chief justice and the minister of defense.”

    210. PresidentPaul! says:

      “Former prime minister Gordon Brown has called for the creation of a temporary form of global government to be assembled to provide a unified body to tackle coronavirus.

      Such an organisation could tackle the spread of the virus, coordinate production and distribution of essential equipment, and help deal with the economic fallout from the pandemic, he said.

      Mr Brown’s suggestion comes ahead of an emergency video conference of the G20 countries, which even before it has begun has already seen a standoff between the US and China over responsibility for the virus.”

      (we already do have a WTO for this though but)

    211. Robbie says:

      See, Jason fraud. This is why it was wrong for Trump, as president, to promote a super-small study of hydrochloroquine and a Z-pack (six whole patients) as a miracle cure for coronavirus. Providing false hope is a terrible thing to do in a panic.

      EXCLUSIVE: ‘Gift from God’ coronavirus ‘cure’ touted by Donald Trump is promoted by a FAKE Stanford University ‘researcher’ who is actually a cryptocurrency-hustling Long Island lawyer whose bogus science paper was removed by Google


    212. Scooterboy says:

      The problem for Dems is , can any other Candidate turn out the AA vote like Biden can? During the primaries, Biden won because of AA vote. I’m not saying that the AA vote will go to Trump,(although I do believe it will increase), however, will they turn out if it’s not Biden? Can Cuomo turn out the AA vote? I have my doubts. They can’t beat Trump without a significant AA turnout.
      You all know a lot more about this stuff than I do, but those are my thoughts. I think it presents a dilemma for the Dems.

    213. Country Dick Montana says:

      Wall Street Journal announces Shortest Bear Market Ever. Market up 20% since low 3 days ago. Glad I got back in before waiting to “dip my toe at 18000.”

    214. Country Dick Montana says:

      Thats not to say it won’t go down 10% again, but who knows.

    215. jason says:


      Nothing was done based on “gift from God”.

      And of course since the actual results from using it on patients has been good. And it is being used with CDC approval.

      Now take your lying ass back to Bogo Pogo and GFY.


    216. jason says:

      “Gift from God”?

      “Chloroquine, which has been used to prevent and treat malaria since 1944, has shown promise in treating COVID-19 in many patients outside the US. The drug, which is already FDA-approved to treat malaria, will be used in a clinical trial, according to FDA Commissioner Stephen Hahn, MD, to test for efficacy in patients with COVID-19. Currently, physicians can use the drug off-label to treat COVID-19 patients.

      Due to its effectiveness during the SARS outbreak, some investigators have been focusing on chloroquine as a potential treatment for the current virus.

      “The way that it worked against SARS was by preventing the attachment of the virus to the cells. Chloroquine interfered with the attachment to that receptor on the cell membrane surface,” Len Horovitz, MD, a pulmonologist at Lenox Hill Hospital in New York City, told ABC News. “So it’s disrupting a lock and key kind of mechanism of attachment.”

    217. Victrc says:

      Amoral scumbag. Most appropriate name ever.

    218. jason says:

      Amoral Scumbag is just worried sick that a drug Trump said “may show promise” actually does help.

      Why? Because if it does, maybe Trump gets some credit.


      This guy is sick, his TDS is all consuming.

    219. NYCmike says:

      Is that Robbie person for real?

    220. jason says:

      There are trials going on right now in NY sanctioned by Cuomo.

      And of course they are being done by serious people in serious hospitals.

      Not based on anything any crypto currency lawyer said of course.

    221. Scooterboy says:

      Like I said the other day, Robbie should worry less about the Corona Virus, and more about his own TDS Virus.

    222. jason says:

      So I read the assault description carefully.

      I don’t find it credible, which is not to say it isn’t true. It is not convincing to me.

      It takes place in a public area, we know that because she says other people were with Biden and moved off. She says he backed her up against a wall in a public area of the Capitol, this wasn’t an office, and obviously not secluded.

      Frankly, I don’t see why she could not have evaded him. What if she sat down or screamed or ran?

      I know, she will allege he was a powerful (politically) man and she was intimidated. That may well be. Still, I would have been more convinced if she said he put the moves on her and she scrambled away.

      I don’t buy it. Sue me.

    223. Tina says:

      Boeing stock closed at 180.55 today.

      I think you could have bought it for 98.75 on 3/23.

    224. Tina says:

      Even Dr Fauci indicated that he would pr3scrive the anti malaria drug to treat coronavirus.

      Jebots need to stop falling for conspiracies and hoaxes and trust the doctor.

    225. Tina says:

      According to politico, Trump is an “authoritarian weakman.”

    226. Tina says:

      And in more news, Mexico wants the border closed with the U.S.

      Trump should take them up on that offer since it is an emerging hotspot.

    227. Victrc says:

      Tina. Actually it was at 89 and got a bunch of friends in around that price. They all wanted to sell today I told them it’s a great long term hold. It was over $400 recently and will be again

    228. Phil says:

      I don’t find it credible either,, Jason. However, I believe it is the first of negative things to be released Designed to chip away at Biden before the convention…and I don’t thing Republicans are behind this. Democratic leaders have seen enough of this guy. They want him out. They don’t believe he can win a GE. Three weeks ago many thought he could. After the last three weeks, they don’t believe that any longer. They’ve seen what we have seen.

    229. jason says:

      The idea that this drug is being used all over the world and the US is based on some Long Island lawyer is so ridiculous only a despicable ass like Amoral Scumbag could think of it.

    230. Tina says:

      Victorc, I should have bought some that low.

      I think we are up almosr 4000 points since Monday?

    231. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The comment in #223 is one of the stupidest comments I have ever read on this board. Even Dr. Fauci has stated he would recommend using a chlororoquine derivative drug in patients with coronavirus. Here is Dr. Fauci in a radio interview:

      “And, on AM 990 in Philadelphia, he talked with Townhall columnist and morning host Chris Stigall about the very real hope in the hydroxychloroquine drug that has been the buzz recently.
      “If you’re a doctor listening to me right now and a patient with coronavirus feels like they want to try that,” Stigall asked, “and you’re their doctor, you’re not Anthony Fauci the guy running the coronavirus task force, would you say ‘alright, we’ll give it a whirl’?”
      “Yeah, of course, particularly if people have no other option,” Fauci said. “These drugs are approved drugs for other reasons. They’re anti-malaria drugs, and they’re drugs against certain autoimmune diseases like lupus. Physicians throughout the country can prescribe that in an off-label way. Which means they can write it for something it was not approved for.”

      I strongly suspect that “Robbie” is a trollbot.

    232. jason says:

      I strongly suspect that “Robbie” is a trollbot.”

      That really WAS one of the most idiotic posts in the history of this blog.

    233. Tina says:

      Presser to start soon.

    234. jason says:

      Betting market didn’t like the Biden charge…


      Trump 50 (+1)
      Biden 41 (-1)

    235. NYCmike says:


      How about Cuomo having a chance in 2015 to buy all of those ventilators at a cheaper price, but choosing death panels instead?

      How about Obama/Biden failing to replace the ventilators taken from the national reserve during the 2009 Swine Flu epidemic?

      How about Obama/Biden not following up on the recommendations given by the task force overseeing the Swine Flu epidemic aftermath, who said the United States should have many more than we did have in reserve?

    236. NYCmike says:



      Read this thread, and smile a little bit.

      R E L A X.

      2024, Trump’s last year, will be here for you soon enough!

    237. Tina says:

      Jim Hoft
      Hmm… SEIU Union in California Suddenly Finds Mysterious Stash of 39 Million Face Masks — 3 Days After AG Bill Barr Announces They’re Going After Hoarders https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03

    238. lisab says:

      The idea that this drug is being used all over the world and the US is based on some Long Island lawyer is so ridiculous only a despicable ass like Amoral Scumbag could think of it.

      Feb 23, 2020 10:51 PM EST
      (a month before what robbie was talking about)

      Chloroquine phosphate, an antimalarial drug, is shown to have yielded positive data against COVID-19 associated pneumonia in multicenter clinical trials conducted in China.

      It is slated to be included in the next version of the Guidelines for the Prevention, Diagnosis, and Treatment of Pneumonia Caused by COVID-19 issued by the National Health Commission of the People’s Republic of China.

      Chloroquine is under assessment in more than 100 infected patients at over ten hospitals in Beijing and Guangdong province. Plans for an additional study in Hunan province are in progress.

      According to Sun Yanrong, deputy head of the China National Center for Biotechnology Development under the Ministry of Science and Technology (MOST), experts suggested that the drug be used in the next type of treatment guidelines and included in wider clinical trials as soon as possible.

      Chloroquine phosphate has been used for more than 70 years. It was selected from tens of thousands of existing drugs after several rounds of screening. The results showed a certain curative effect and fairly good efficacy.

      Patients treated with chloroquine required a shorter time to recover, exhibited a better drop in fever, and had improvement of lung CT images, compared to parallel groups

    239. jason says:

      New Orleans mayor blames Trump for the fact Mardi Gras was not cancelled.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    240. DW says:

      Robbie was just testing his connection to make sure it still worked so he can come here and gloat when the March job numbers come out. Incredible what a hate-filled person he has become.

    241. lisab says:

      triscuit was made in niagra falls, who knew …

    242. Tina says:

      Emily Larsen
      · 43m
      Pretty intense statement here from Biden.

      Joe Biden blames record unemployment surge on President Trump:
      “The harsh reality is that at least 3 million people now don’t have jobs because our president didn’t do his job when it mattered.”

    243. lisab says:

      Incredible what a hate-filled person he has become.

      pretty sure that was always true about corey/robbie

      they have always looked down on the hhr hillbillies

    244. VictrC says:

      Biden has become completely irrelevant right now.

      The longer this goes on the less chance he has of becoming relevant.

    245. jason says:

      Things move fast..

      Biden goes from washed up to sure winner in 2 weeks and now to “electoral disaster”.

      Roger Simon:

      “As for defeating Trump, Cuomo will have an uphill struggle. As I was reminded in a phone call by American Enterprise Institute economist Benjamin Zycher, the governor successfully helped to prevent fracking in needy upstate New York. He might be able partially to walk this back by claiming an economic emergency, but whether the voters will believe him is moot. In the long run, this knee-jerk liberal viewpoint could cost him dearly in the coveted swing states.

      Another problem for Cuomo will be garnering the support of the Bernie Bros, but that would be a problem for Biden as well. It’s anecdotal, but an Atlanta CEO told me his perusal of the Bernie Sanders forum on Reddit showed many of the Bros already washing their hands of the entire election. Worse, several of them were deliberately refusing to observe the guidances we all follow regarding the virus, now that it is looking like their hero is being denied the nomination.

      In any case, though I doubt Cuomo could defeat Trump, my guess is he would ultimately fare better than the increasingly hapless Biden, who might be headed for electoral disaster.”

    246. jason says:

      Fracking alone won’t defeat Cuomo. But he has taken extreme positions on guns and on abortion too.

      Biden was supposed to be electable because he was “moderate”.

      Now Cuomo is electable because he is “competent”.


    247. Tina says:

      Thao Nguyen’s Tweets

      Thao Nguyen
      trump’s popularity among farmers has leaped to all-time highs according to the latest agri-pulse poll

      72% of farmers are now willing to re-elect trump, up from 45% in spring 2018

    248. jason says:

      pretty sure that was always true about corey/robbie”

      Corey is a sanctimonious ass. He does look down on the great unwashed. He can never be wrong. He is certainly willing to have a socialist President to get rid of Trump. I think he is going to wake up one day and say hey, I AM a Democrat, there is no reason to pretend I am a conservative anymore. But I think he believes what he says, and being misguided is not a crime. That is why, much to his chagrin, because he wants to be victimized, I don’t call him scum.

      I don’t see him as “hate filled” like Amoral Scumbag. He hates Trump, yes. I hate organic maple syrup.

    249. Victrc says:

      Dr. Birx is the rockstar. Way to answer back too. Reporters trying to corner her on the potential new guidelines. They ask “why do you think that could work here when thats not what we are hearing”. “Becuse I’ve done it in sub Saharan Africa, and if I can do this kind of thing there, I can do it here”


    250. VictrC says:

      Dr. Birx again.

      “I’d like it for a change if it was reported what the real situation is. I get up this morning and hear sensationalist numbers and it’s scary, but we aren’t close to making DNR type recommendations. There are still beds in NY, there are still 1 -2,o00 ventilators not being used in NY.”

      She basically castigated the media for not reporting accurately and for trying to scare Americans.

    251. jason says:

      Trump at 48% Fox Poll

    252. Tina says:

      I love Dr. Birx.

      She is the rock star and why they want to end the pressers.

      She is an excellent communicator.

    253. Phil says:

      Dr Birx is brilliant. Knowledgeable beyond belief. Also, so well spoken. I see why she has the confidence of the President. I suspect she has cultivated quite a bit of confidence among the American people.

    254. Tina says:

      Jebots crying.

      Joe Lockhart
      · 25m
      Dr Birk has drunk the Kool Aid

    255. jason says:

      Maybe the Dems will finally say ok we have had enough of fake scandals, coups and false narratives against Trump.

      Let’s try doing it the hard way, winning the election.


    256. Tina says:

      Tom Elliott
      · 1h
      New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell blames Trump for her not canceling Mardi Gras: “When it’s not taken seriously at the federal level. It’s very difficult to transcend down to the local level in making these decisions.”

    257. lisab says:

      Plurality of Dems prefer Warren for VP: Poll

      Eighty percent of Democratic voters surveyed said they supported Mr. Biden’s decision to pick a woman. A plurality of Democrats, 27%, said they want Ms. Warren as his running mate when presented with five different potential nominees, a ‘someone else’ option, and an unsure option.

      Sen. Kamala Harris received 18% support for her potential vice-presidential candidacy, followed by “not sure” at 14%, Sen. Bernie Sanders at 13% support, and Sen. Amy Klobuchar at 10% support.

    258. Phil says:

      Hmm. Surprised Klobuchar is so far down the list at 10%.

      She’’s not the electoral powerhouse some have portrayed her to be. Democrats would certainly embrace her ok but doubt she’d add much to the enthusiasm. Of course, VPs seldom do.

    259. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      RCP averages:
      Trump Approval
      Approve 47.1%
      Disapprove 49.6%

      Didn’t one of the trolls once claim that Trump could not win re-election unless he had higher than a 45% approval rating?

    260. Tina says:

      Oh no, jebots to implode:

      Jack Posobiec Retweeted

      Mike Davis
      “Italy got hit very badly because they had a large number of importations from China by Chinese tourists.” – Dr. Fauci

      ‘s early, bold, controversial, and correct decision to restrict travel from China saved many American lives.

      Fauci: Italy ‘Hit Very Badly’ By Coronavirus Due to Prevalence of Chinese Tourists
      Fauci said that Italy has been impacted particularly badly by the coronavirus because the country hosted a high number of Chinese tourists in recent months.

    261. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      275. Oh no, Trump has infected Fauci with “Make America great” virus

    262. Tina says:

      Dr. Birx must be a russian asset.


    263. Wobbles says:

      Didn’t one of the trolls once claim that Trump could not win re-election unless he had higher than a 45% approval rating?”

      Who you calling troll?

      That was me, but I have moved the goalposts since.

      There is no way Trump can win unless he is at 50% in Vermont.

    264. Tina says:

      But China Biden said it was stupid to do and racist.

      John Binder Extraterrestrial alien
      · 1h
      Pew Research: 95 Percent of Americans Say Trump’s Travel Bans ‘Necessary’ to Stop Coronavirus

    265. Tina says:


      Greta Ocasio-Nolte
      There is no way in hell
      is going to be able to explain away his opposition to Trump’s travel ban, which saved this country.

      He’s doomed.

    266. Tina says:

      Larry Schweikart
      Obama’s ’08 campaign manager warns Biden: Up your game! http://a.msn.com/01/en-us/BB11KKn5?ocid=st2…
      Souffle Pouffe warns Biteme he’s about to get crushed.

    267. Tina says:

      Jordan Schachtel
      Dr. Birx update:
      -Says early models (from Imperial College UK) were emphatically wrong (ahem, doomsday preachers)
      -No health care system in US right now is overwhelmed. Pros are handling it.
      -No exponential/rapid growth.
      -55% of cases in NYC metro area.

    268. Phil says:

      I have been saying that Democratic strategists and leaders have come to the conclusion that Joe isn’t going to be able to cut it. David Plouffe just confirmed that. He is saying what other Democratic operatives have been saying it for several weeks behind the scenes. He will have to be replaced.

      Joe will have to go. He will be “persuaded” to bow out. Yeah, “persuaded”. LOL The when and how is being worked out.

      So long Joe.

    269. NYCmike says:

      “-55% of cases in NYC metro area.”

      -This time, I would have liked to NOT be the center of the universe!

    270. Phil says:

      I suspect that the Bernie campaign knows what is happening behind the scenes. It’s why he hasn’t dropped out.

    271. jason says:

      Paul asked me the other day why I don’t like Planned Parenthood.

      “Planned Parenthood affiliates and other abortion facilities filed a lawsuit against Gov. Greg Abbott (R-Texas) and other Texas officials demanding relief from an executive order barring non-essential surgical procedures during the coronavirus pandemic.”

    272. lisab says:

      well … waiting a month or two to have an abortion

      seems counterproductive

    273. lisab says:

      Hillary and Bill Clinton sent over 400 pizzas to New York hospitals fighting against coronavirus

      please god … not hillary

    274. Phil says:

      Democrats will have to move fast. Between them, Joe and Bernie have just over 53% of the total delegates that will attend the Democratic Convention – meaning it’s a mathematical impossibility for Cuomo or anyone else to get a first ballot majority. Joe has 1216 pledged delegates. Bernie has 914. This is with just 1991 or so necessary to secure the nomination. Add in future delegates from primary rich states like NJ, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia NY, Connecticut etc and the two candidates build on their delegate totals leaving not nearly enough delegates to give a Cuomo a majority on even subsequent ballots – even if you throw in super delegates.

      LOL This is delicious. Democrats stuck with demented Joe – unless they somehow decide on commie Bernie. What a choice! It’s too late for anyone else.

      Only solution is to “CONVINCE” Joe to bow out “VOLUNTARILY” but even then it has to be soon.


    275. VictrC says:

      Watched the CBS video with Biden and listen to the commentators, as well as clicked on a couple of links where Obama era adminstration people were all saying its going to be months before we get back to work. A big spike is coming in eight weeks from now, Trump bad this and Trump bad that, his response is awful, he needs to get off the air.

      They are openly rooting against America, it is not even overt anymore.

    276. Phil says:

      I’m shocked.

    277. Cash Cow TM says:

      Dr. Birx has been very good at communicating.

      WV ha a female (Dr.?) who is also doing a very good job at daily pressers on TV.

      Women’s calming voices do a good job, especially when they are spot on on the facts.

      Walt’s missus quickly noted that Dr. Birx speaks without any notes.

      Walt said when he was in the legislature they gave training on how to handle big crises like tornados, floods, etc. The presenters said the best thing for elected officials to do is to not hog the spotlight and let the professionals explain things to the public..elected officials should mainly say thing to reassure folks, but not try to be the “stars” art press conferences.

    278. Tina says:

      Cash cow, thank you for making my point.

      Nothing against dr. Fauci,

      But dr.brix is a better communicator and is more soothing,

      She has a better voice for tee vee.

      She is soothing

    279. VictrC says:

      If you were wargaming a scenario to test whether the Left’ and Never Trumpers hatred of Trump was more important than anything else- including the lives and futures of their fellow Americans- you couldn’t create a situation that would show more clearly than this that their Trump hatred is supreme

    280. jason says:

      I like Birx.

      But the person that really lends credibility to the team if Fauci.

      This is not a “communication” contest.

    281. jason says:

      well … waiting a month or two to have an abortion

      seems counterproductive”


      Waiting for a lot of elective surgeries is counterproductive.

    282. VictrC says:


      Why do you think Fauci has more gravitas than Birx. She has led the crusade against AIDS for decades, knows how to battle a pandemic, has worked in the worst hell holes on earth, all while being one of the most respected names in infectious diseases, while also being a Colonel.

      Honest question

    283. Hugh says:

      Fauci is a smart guy but he spread a lot of panic which we can now see was grossly overstated. Birx was able to have balanced perspective. As the worlds economy tanks we need to ask ourselves how many lives 4 trillion could have saved. What if we focused on the vulnerable population and kept our businesses open? How many suicides divorces ruined financial lives we could have saved? But no the panic mongers did care or lacked the perspective to understand the full picture. Fauci is one of them. Most of the people who will die from this had a very short life span and many more who will die or suffer for years indirectly are much younger. If fauce was in charge of transportation in the USA our speed limits would be 20 mph lower. Sorry Jason can you just once back off one position you take?

    284. Hugh says:

      Oops. Did not care

    285. lisab says:

      Waiting for a lot of elective surgeries is counterproductive.

      but waiting makes the child more developed

      we don’t want women aborting at 3, 4, 5 or 6 months

    286. lisab says:

      usa had 268 deaths yesterday

      already 5 for today

    287. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – Dr. Fauci committed a grave sin in Tina’s eyes. He did not hate Hillary. Once that became known, she turned on him. The problem is that he is brilliant and Tina can’t deny it. So she praises Dr. Birx to knock him down a bit.

      Tina is a top poster here. She is one of the best. However, once somebody fails the ideological purity test, they are dead to her.

    288. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil – Here is a charity bet. I predict that Joe Biden will be the Democrat nominee on Election Day. $100 to your favorite charity if I am wrong.

      Jason – I am not betting you. Sorry, dogs.

    289. Victrc says:

      Bitter – Fauci is awesome. Birx is awesome. The Surgeon general is awesome. Pence has been impressive throughout the crisis (BTW he is a genuinely nice man. He sat down with me twice for interviews for a book I never finished and gave me over an hour each time.)

      Trump has definitely been a good figure head and leader. He’s provided good leadership, has not had too many head scratching moments and is handling this like a CEO.

      As for how to handle this, I am all for a protect the vulnerable and let others go out AFTER another 15 days once the first 15 days ends. Anyone over 60, anyone with a pre existing condition that makes them vulnerable, quarantined for 30 more days past that, meanwhile parts of America can work and start to bring us back to normalcy.

      It’s not either or, its this and that.

    290. VictrC says:

      Bitter – on the bet, I might take you up, if only because I think a charity would benefit from $100 right now and I don’t mind giving (and to spice things up a bit here). I honestly believe he will be the nominee, but I’m begging to wonder.

    291. Bitterlaw says:

      Vic – Sorry. I don’t have money to bet everybody at HHR. Now, if your company had a job for a bitter lawyer looking to change careers….

    292. Tina says:

      Bl go back 10 days or so agoI said that he needs to make her the spokesperson.

      Like in late January I said that we needed a travel ban on the commie Chinese.

      2 for 2.

    293. Cash Cow TM says:

      Today, Walt labeled with pick and shovel the dig the hole for the preformed fish pond.

      He is lobbying to only dig the hole deep enough to but the first or two levels under ground level, and then build up soil around it to the higher level.

      Mrs. Walt vetoed that idea.

      She said preformed pond needs to be deeper. She said both levels need to be deeper so the top edge is as ground level.

      Guess what Wal will be doing tomorrow?
      Poor Walt…

      His idea of digging only 3 wheelbarrow loads of shale has now bloomed into at least 8 wheelbarrow loads.

      Say…anybody here need any shale?

    294. Bitterlaw says:

      You were the one who brought up Fauci’s link to Hillary, Tina. I never knew about it until you posted it. You obviously thought it was relevant for some reason.

    295. Bitterlaw says:

      Does anybody else see that Mrs. Walt is setting up an “accident” for Walt to be found facedown in a fish pond?

    296. MichiganGuy says:

      WHO chief praises Trump’s coronavirus ‘leadership’
      Trolls and msm hardest hit.

    297. VictrC says:

      Bitter – what kind of law do you practice?

    298. Bitterlaw says:

      I defend employers and insurance companies in workers compensation cases. I also have years of defending civil cases in car accidents and premises liability cases.

    299. Victrc says:

      Ok deal, if we ever need help with workers comp cases, you are the man I am coming to!

    300. Bitterlaw says:

      Thanks, Vic. Looking back, I should have been a history teacher or a meteorologist.

    301. Victrc says:

      Meteorologist is the best job if you can get it. Youre wrong more than half the time and no one complains and you don’t get fired!

    302. Trump says:


      Great ad by the Trump campaign. It’ll really get voters revved up.

    303. Phil says:


      It won’t work.

    304. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Recently, Neil Ferguson of the Imperial College predicted 500,000 would die of coronovirus in the U.K.; he now predicts it will be less than 20,000, because of the social containment policies that have been recently adopted. Some are skeptical of his revised numbers

      “UK just started social distancing…you can’t seriously claim that a couple days of social distancing changes the number that much.”

      @- “Oh, come on. It is being “walked back”. When you make sensational predictions like he did and then say “nevermind” a few days later then you are “walking it back”. Which, I hasten to add, is not a bad thing. He was honest enough to reassess his data and revise his predictions accordingly.
      But it’s yet another data point supporting my contention that NO ONE really knows what is going to happen; everyone is just guessing based on their models, assumptions, and political leanings. Everyone is going to end up with a little egg on their faces when this is all said and done.”

    305. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      From the recent Gallup poll: Note the news media’s popularity is at the bottom.

      “Approve or disapprove of the way each of the following is handling the response to the coronavirus in the U.S.?

      U.S Hospitals: 88% approve; 10% disapprove
      State Government:82% approve; 17% disapprove
      CDC, NIH Gov Health:80% approve; 17% disapprove
      Vice Pres. Pence: 61% approve; 32% disapprove
      President Trump: 60% approve; 38% disapprove
      Congress: 59% approve; 37% disapprove
      The News Media: 44% approve 55% disapprove

    306. Messy says:

      288. Why not? Pizza is good.

    307. jason says:

      Fauci is a smart guy but he spread a lot of panic which we can now see was grossly overstated”

      BS and cheap character assassination.

      This is bigger than idiotic litmus tests.

    308. jason says:


      Why do you think Fauci has more gravitas than Birx”

      I love easy questions. Fauci is regarded as “the leading expert in infectious diseases in America”

      I would call that gravitas.

      Birx has a great resume and career as a physician and diplomat and a relevant role in combating Aids. She has described her role as “ambassador”.

      But she doesn’t compare to Fauci who has over 50 years exclusively dedicated to research in infectious diseases in general

      Anthony Stephen Fauci is an American physician and immunologist who has served as the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) since 1984. Since January 2020, he has been one of the lead members of the White House Coronavirus Task Force addressing the 2019–20 coronavirus pandemic in the United States.

      As a physician with the National Institutes of Health (NIH) of the United States, he has served public health in various capacities for over fifty years. He has made contributions to HIV/AIDS research and other immunodeficiencies, both as a scientist and as the head of the NIAID at the NIH. The New York Times called Fauci “the nation’s leading expert on infectious diseases”.

    309. jason says:

      Jason – I am not betting you. Sorry, dogs.”

      In any case, I like bets I see as sure things or close to it.

      Or where the odds are so good that I can’t pass it up as when Corey offered me 100 to 1 Trump would lose.

      I am not betting Biden is not the nominee because the MSM could very well give him a pass all the way to the nomination.

      I put it at 50-50 he won’t self destruct by then so badly that even the MSM can’t save him.

      I don’t like 50-50 bets.

    310. jason says:

      Hard to see how weather doesn’t impact the spread of the virus when you look at the map of which states have shut down non-essential businesses.


    311. jason says:

      A source has told Fox News that Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY), who is adamantly opposed to a voice vote on the Coronavirus Stimulus bill, is threatening to object, which could cause an unnecessary delay in the House vote.”

      Not surprised. Massie is a Paulbot.

    312. DW says:

      Trump approval now at 48/46 in…..
      …..The Washington POST/ABC News Poll.

      Hate-filled deranged people hardest hit.

    313. DW says:

      Hodas and Associates –


      Trump 49
      Biden 45


      Trump 47
      Biden 45


      Trump 44
      Biden 50

    314. Wobbles says:

      Hate-filled deranged people hardest hit.”

      Who, me?

    315. jason says:

      Those numbers are all close, but like last time, I think those states will all go one way.

      I don’t see Trump winning PA and losing MI.

    316. jason says:

      But those polls might make the Dems more likely to dump Biden.

      He is a senile quasi 80 year old with a lot of baggage.’

      If he not clearly electable, what does he bring to the table?

    317. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      BREAKING:UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson tests positive for the Kung Flu.

    318. jason says:

      Bloomberg has disappeared from the news.

      He spent half a billion for the nomination, crashed and burned, then said well at least it damaged Trump.

      That may not have happened either, but he has one claim he can make.

      He spent twice as much as Jeb for the same result.

    319. jason says:

      Did he get if from Prince Charles?

    320. jason says:

      2000 recovered in the US. In about 10 days we will see a larger “herd immunity” number that will increase by the day.

      In 2 weeks we will have tens of thousands of people immune to the disease that can go back to work.

    321. Country Dick Montana says:


      Well at least if you have toothache in PA our fantastic Governor Wolf now allows your dentist to fix it. Closes everything in a panic then says “oops.” The guy is a tool.

    322. jason says:

      Wolf has for years done nothing so he can hide the fact he is incompetent.

      It took the coronovirus to start bringing it out.

    323. jason says:

      Comment on twitter:

      will be sorely disappointed when he finds out “leading with science” does not mean standing behind Greta and massaging her shoulders while sniffing her hair.

    324. DW says:

      There was a note from the Hodas polls I posted above:

      POLLSTER’S ANALYSIS: We were in the field in Michigan right before the pandemic-coverage started dominating the news and you could see the data start to move. The President’s job approval rating started to climb, presumably as a result of his lengthy and live daily coronavirus briefings, mirroring other national polling. The trend continued through our testing in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania. It will be interesting to see how this trend plays out. Another obvious trend mirroring 2016: Trump is doing well in rural areas and Biden in urban locales. The suburbs are split: No doubt, the battle lines are drawn for a real knife-fight there.

    325. jason says:

      Wolf was hoping to retire after 8 years of nobody ever noticing he did nothing.

      This virus is a real inconvenience.

    326. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      New FOX News Poll. The pollster continues to beclown itself by using a sample that is 49% Democrat(40% GOP). Nevertheless, Trump’s approval/disapproval is 48/51, respectively.


    327. jason says:

      The President’s job approval rating started to climb, presumably as a result of his lengthy and live daily coronavirus briefings”

      Nah, it is not the briefings, that is lazy analysis.

    328. jason says:

      I think 49% is high for Dems, but 40% is high for Rs too, does that include leaners?

    329. jason says:

      Germany now has 48000 cases and 285 deaths.


      Spain has 64000 cases and 5000 deaths.

      Not impressive.

    330. jason says:

      US 86000 cases 1300 deaths.

    331. BayernFan says:

      333. How’s Betty? He sees her more that Chuck does.

    332. jason says:

      Lindell is a Trump supporter and his pillows are great. I haven’t tried his other products.

      “CEO Mike Lindell says about 75% of MyPillow’s production will now be making cotton face masks for health care workers. He says about 90% of the company’s sewers will be working on the masks.

      “We have capacity to make a lot of things at big rates and we’re going to be going hopefully from 10,000 units a day to 50,000 units a day in a very short period of time,” said Lindell.

      Lindell says it took about three weeks to shift production as it was difficult at first to get a supply of elastics needed to create the masks. At this time, he says components are not available to make other types of masks, so his company focused on making the 100% cotton masks. He says MyPillow worked with a coalition from President Donald Trump’s administration to get the proper design.

      “Something is better than nothing to get [health care workers] through,” he said.

    333. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #344- jason
      Yes to your question. It is the 9 pt. gap between the Parties that is absurd.

    334. PresidentPaul! says:

      If a Democrat were in office I would be 100% opposed to even a single bailout, check sent, etc.

      But the way I see it, everything will be 10X worse if Biden ends up in charge and probably 1000X worse if Bernie somehow manages to get control of things.

    335. jason says:

      New York to perform massive real-time “experiment” with hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus patients”

      Must be on the advice of that “Long Island cryptocurrency lawyer”.

    336. PresidentPaul! says:

      The fact that a democrat might end up in the WH is just hostage taking frankly so we have to take extreme measures to keep the economy going to prevent the worst case scenario (bernie or to a lesser extent Biden)

    337. jason says:

      The idea that Biden is only 1% as bad as Bernie is something only a Paulbot could entertain.

      There is very little difference in what they would successfully implement.

    338. jason says:

      he fact that a democrat might end up in the WH”


      The Paulbots were ok with Obama winning the WH, why worry about Bernie or Biden.

    339. PornDodo says:

      May the world be free from disease

    340. Country Dick Montana says:


      3 Million newly unemployed may disagree with this.

      Many studies keep pointing to what several Asian countries did to contain the virus. SK and Taiwan are Democratic countries that used quasi-totalitarian means to slow things down. Also, those countries are culturally homogeneous with shared values and ultimately a deep regard for obedience to authority.

      I don’t know how we pull this type of thing off in the US.

    341. jason says:

      You have to love CNN:

      “On Thursday, White House Trade Advisor Peter Navarro appeared on CNN. Hosting the show was Brianna Keilar.

      As the clip begins, Navarro is saying,”We all, as a country, got dealt a bad hand by China.”

      It takes a second for Keilar to absorb Navarro’s comment. Then, she puts her hand up and tells him, “Uh, Peter, that is just a waste of time to say that. I’m gonna leave it there. Peter Navarro.”

      Navarro is gobsmacked. He interrupts, “No, hang on, wait a minute. Why is that a waste of time to say that?”

      Keilar ignores him. “We’re just trying to get our hands around it. No. Peter Navarro. That’s it. We’re out of time. We’re out of time. And that’s just, that’s ridiculous. Peter Navarro. Thank you so much.”

      As she continues speaking, Navarro says, “Good to talk to you. I’ll come back anytime.”

    342. jason says:

      Navarro is probably my least favorite person in the administration, a tariff loving isolationist and protectionist moron. I certainly could care less what he thinks.

      But if you invite him on, you should let him talk.

    343. mRviTO says:

      “He says about 90% of the company’s sewers will be working on the masks.”

      That doesn’t sound sanitary.

    344. jason says:

      I had to read that twice myself.

    345. DW says:

      “He says about 90% of the company’s sewers will be working on the masks.”

      359 – I understood it perfectly the first time I read it….that the factories making these masks are in Chicago, Detroit, and Baltimore.

    346. jason says:

      Destination America Channel has a show on now called Bacon Paradise.

      Touring the country to find out the best places to eat bacon.

      I am drooling all over the computer.

    347. Bitterlaw says:

      I thought the same thing when I read sewers. Maybe stitchers would be a better title. Or seam-fitters.

    348. jason says:

      Actually My Pillow makes everything in MN.

    349. Phil says:

      50-50 that Democrats decide to stay with Biden.

      IMO, waaaay worse odds than that. After what they have seen over the last several weeks with Biden, they can’t possibly believe they can cover for seven plus months with this guy. They have to be terrified with what they have seen. His only attribute was electability. They are watching that one attribute disappears every time he opens his mouth.

      The only way they can stay with him is if it’s too late or too messy to remove him. They are Democrats so winning is all that matters so my guess is he is pressured to bow out. They just need to access how to do it. They are no doubt working the problem behind the scenes. How to get him to agree to bow out, who to get, and how to actually do it.

    350. mRviTO says:

      “Actually My Pillow makes everything in MN.”

      Dayum… how big is that factory?

    351. Phil says:


      95% agree with travel band.

      Democrats poll too. Obviously, that’s why we haven’t heard any woke talking points from Democrats about Trump’s xenophobia in a couple of weeks.

    352. jason says:

      Two years ago it was 70000 sq ft and 1600 employees, might be more now, in Chaska, MN.

    353. jason says:

      Chaska is also the home of NordicTrack.

    354. jason says:


      “Soccer player Gary Lineker once famously said “football is a simple game – 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes and at the end, the Germans always win.” More than one political commentator tweeted on Thursday afternoon that Israeli politics is a simple game and, you play for 90 minutes and Bibi always wins.

      The political “wizard,” as Netanyahu is often nicknamed, has done it again, and this time he has the coronavirus to thank for putting is political career on a respirator that could keep it alive for years to come, even when the crisis passes.”

    355. dblaikie says:

      Once again the basic stupidity of the media continues to meet my expectations. For weeks I have heard that we need to “test, test, test.” That when do that cases will spike way up. But that is good. So we do that and then as soon as we get one case above China they start wringing their hands.

    356. jason says:

      Joe Rogan on Joe Biden: “Trump is going to eat him alive. He’s going to eat that guy alive. The guy can barely remember what he’s talking about while he’s talking. … His skin is all pulled tight like a lizard.”

    357. dblaikie says:

      India continues to amaze! Only 160 new cases. Iceland has more cases than India. Bring on the tropical heat.

    358. jason says:

      So India is just behind the curve or it is something else. Ethnicity? Climate? Diet?

      Maybe spicy curries protect you somehow?

    359. dblaikie says:

      Dr. Birix’s has become the wicked witch according to the media.

    360. dblaikie says:

      Nothing like a good curry! It has to be the climate. Imagine one case in Mumbai. It is impossible to practice social distancing. It would be impossible not to stop it from spreading like fire.

    361. Tina says:

      China Biden is given a Cn and n townhall tonite.


    362. Tina says:

      Looks like trump invoked the defense protection act on gm for not producing ventilators, or threatened to.

    363. Tina says:

      Wtf is ny state doing.

      2,000 ventilators are just sitting in storage

    364. pitchaboy says:

      A good lot the cases in India came from Indian people that were traveling there from US and Europe. Apparently they were not following the 2 week self quarantine leading to the lockdown. If the virus lets loose there, all bets are off.

    365. jason says:

      Cuomo at least is not trying to spread panic.

      “New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said hospitalizations from the coronavirus are now doubling every four days. However, he noted that this is a decrease in the rate of hospitalization from earlier this week, when it was doubling every two or three days.

      Cuomo said this was “good news” that the rate of hospitalizations is slowing. But he reiterated that rate of new cases of coronavirus is still going up in the state.”

    366. jason says:

      Dr. Birix’s has become the wicked witch according to the media.”

      The fact she is so popular here would be your first clue.

    367. Phil says:

      2000 ventilators in storage?

      They are waiting for Trump to personally arrive and move them from the warehouse to the hospitals.

    368. PresidentPaul! says:

      “… His skin is all pulled tight like a lizard.””


    369. jason says:

      The MSM will have something to bash Trump every day.

      “Travel ban”, “hoax”, “fighting with Fauci”, etc.

      “Ventilator” will be used until they find the next thing.

    370. PresidentPaul! says:

      Rep Massie will be requiring inperson voting.

    371. phil says:


      That’s great, you Ron Paul nuts ought to be boiled in oil.

      Massie is a POS in addition to being a moron.

    372. NYCmike says:

      “2,000 ventilators are just sitting in storage”

      -Do you have a link?

      I would think they are in storage, being prepared for use as needed. I assume that the hospitals would keep a running tally, and when certain low numbers are hit, have more delivered as soon as possible. There are space issues that are being dealt with, in the city anyway.

    373. Tina says:

      They only indicated that it was part of a federal,delivery a day or so ago.

      Hopefully, Ny mismanagement does not equal Puerto Rico 2.0.

    374. Tina says:

      In all fairness though, Ny may not need those ventilators.

      I was trying to probe if there are any successes with the anti malaria trial in Ny, which started on Monday?

      This could be a reason why they are in storage.

    375. Tina says:

      Dr. Birx referenced the 2000:ventitaltors yesterday.

    376. NYCmike says:

      Just heard parts of an interview from 01/26, John Katsimitidis (spelling) with Dr. Fauci.

      Fauci said there was nothing to worry about.

    377. Phil says:

      The anti malaria trial started Tuesday, Tina. I, too, haven’t heard anything yet. Probably a little early to tell anything.

    378. jason says:

      I told you Massie was a Paulbot moron.

      Never trust a Paulbot to do the right thing.

    379. Phil says:

      Kerry says Massie ought to be quarantined for stupidity.

      I agree with Kerry. That’s a first.

    380. PresidentPaul! says:

      I think slowing the whole thing down is fine since no one has probably read it anyways and Pelosi has no doubt snuck goodies into it.

    381. jason says:

      Italy numbers in.

      Fewer cases than yesterday, now 6 straight days below peak.

      Yet deaths spiked to 912.

      Could suggest the current cases are heavily skewed to the more vulnerable population.

    382. jason says:

      I think slowing the whole thing down is fine since no one has probably read it anyways and Pelosi has no doubt snuck goodies into it.”

      No surprise, all Paulbots think alike.

      Pelosi could not “sneak anything into it” at this point, the bill is being passed as is (not that it doesn’t have Dem pork in it, it does).

    383. Phil says:

      396- The bill has been read and it’s the senate bill they are voting on. Pelosi hasn’t redone anything. What the hell

    384. jason says:

      “Trump calls for ousting GOP congressman from party ahead of coronavirus relief vote”

      Do a twofer and get rid of Rand Paul too.

    385. jason says:

      If the outcome of the vote was in doubt, Massie could certainly demand a debate.

      But it isn’t, it is pure grandstanding a la Romney/Ted Cruz just to get some headlines.

      I hope they primary his ass out of congress.

      Meanwhile he can join fellow Paulbot Amash as an Independent.

    386. jason says:

      Understatement of the year?

      “There’s so many things we didn’t get in … that we need to,” Pelosi told reporters Thursday.

    387. lisab says:

      But those polls might make the Dems more likely to dump Biden.

      that might be why we are seeing those polls

      so the dems will dump biden

    388. Phil says:

      Bingo, Lisa.

    389. PresidentPaul! says:

      By the end of next week, certain areas are not going to have enough beds or vents. I mean significant shortages not just we need an extra 100 vents.

      By end of next week ppl are going to be sent going to get a cot in a stadium instead of icu care.

    390. jason says:

      By end of next week ppl are going to be sent going to get a cot in a stadium instead of icu care.”

      Is that what Ron Paul is telling you?

    391. jason says:

      Dems never waste an opportunity to attack their own country:

      “As Number of Confirmed COVID-19 Cases in US Surpasses China’s, GQ Writer Asks, ‘Who’s the S***hole Country Now?”

    392. lisab says:

      By the end of next week, certain areas are not going to have enough beds or vents. I mean significant shortages not just we need an extra 100 vents.

      they just move/send the patients outside the city

    393. Wes says:

      Keep in mind Massie and Amash are the kinds of people JulStol wants Republicans to nominate.

    394. lisab says:

      usa might be level today on deaths

      we are slightly better than yesterday at this time

    395. jason says:

      If you think Cuomo will run in 2020, you can get 10-1 odds at Predictit.

      Not bad odds IMO.

    396. lisab says:

      there are many people who actually want society to fall into chaos … mostly because they cannot do well in today’s society

      some, like gender studies and poli-sci majors, want a bernie sanders because they see that a euro-type socialism rewards people with degrees, which they have.

      others, like preppers and survivalists feel vindicated

      but the worst of all are those basement dwellers who could not hold do well in society and always dreamed that they could have done well if only they had been born 200 years ago when society was “more free, and men were men”

      and now they are realizing that they don’t even have the social skills to buy toilet paper in this situation, never mind carve a farm out of the wilderness

    397. dblaikie says:

      406 You need to stop fear mongering for about 30 minutes and read Dr. Fauci’s article in the New England Jour. of Med. In he states that of those getting tested (THOSE WHO HAVE SYMPTOMS) the mortality rate is currently 1.5%. However when you factor the huge number of those whose symptoms were mild and didn’t warrant a test and especially those who are asymptotic, the mortality rate will be like “a bad flu”. Those are not my words they are the words Dr. Fauci the person in this country who has been in forefront of stopping deadly viruses since the AIDs break out in the 1980’s.

      Frankly I am amazed at the number of people who don’t want to listen or consider news that might be good. Why in the world do people like you give into fear and panic? Someone who loves you needs to give you a kick in the you know where and tell you to buck up and grow up.

    398. lisab says:

      Why in the world do people like you give into fear and panic?

      see #413

      they want society to fall apart because today’s society does not reward them the amount they think it should

    399. lisab says:

      the thing is …

      the people who cannot make it under today’s system

      will definitely not make it under either

      total chaos (they will be the first eaten)


      a bernie-styled socialist society (which actually requires social connections to get items you need because everything is rationed)

    400. jason says:

      we are slightly better than yesterday at this time”

      I expect an increase. But any increase below 25% would be a drop in the rate of increase.

      That is around +21530.

      As for deaths if it is less than 295 it is also a drop in the rate of increase.

      However, if the theory that we are 10 days ahead of Italy on the curve is right, it will be another 4 days before the rate stabilizes in NY.

    401. lisab says:

      if you have ever lived in a primitive society

      they do not allow weirdos to stay in their society

    402. jason says:

      Bunu is a Paulbot and a Holocaust denier, so nothing he writes here is a surprise.

    403. lisab says:

      I expect an increase. But any increase below 25% would be a drop in the rate of increase.

      they just updated — 178

      looks like we will break 300

    404. jason says:

      they do not allow weirdos to stay in their society”

      Good news, I guess the A-hole Club members are safe.

    405. jason says:

      In the end Massie the Paulbot wasn’t able to delay help to the American people.

    406. PresidentPaul! says:


      I’m not posting it here, but I’ve actually read state bed projections.

      By April 7th you’re going to see extreme bed shortages and vent shortages. Not everywhere….yet, but in certain hard hit areas yes.

    407. jason says:

      looks like we will break 300″

      That would be about the same rate of increase as yesterday.

      New deaths in NY are +53 so far, even if it doubles it will still be the same as yesterday.

      Let’s see.

    408. dblaikie says:

      I am not into forecasting concerning this except for one thing. In six months the scientific oommunity will be discussing how they got the models wrong.

    409. DW says:

      Where this is headed is places (south?) in the USA that get back to normal while other places (liberal northeast states?) continue to suffer from corona and the left will have a fit that the corona recovered areas don’t continue to suffer the same way, because its not fair.

    410. lisab says:

      Not everywhere….yet, but in certain hard hit areas yes.
      which is why they will move patients

    411. Wes says:

      I’m guessing Ron Paul told Bunu Covid-19 would only worsen because the Fed hasn’t been audited.

    412. jason says:

      France, Germany and Spain have better numbers than yesterday.

    413. jason says:

      I’m guessing Ron Paul told Bunu Covid-19 would only worsen because the Fed hasn’t been audited.”

      That is 50%.

      The other 50% is because Guantanamo wasn’t closed and the terrorists released.

    414. lisab says:

      France, Germany and Spain have better numbers than yesterday.

    415. Tina says:

      But Jebot said she is a Russian Asset.

      Dan Diamond
      White House coronavirus coordinator DEBORAH BIRX touts Trump’s response in Q&A yesterday on Christian Broadcasting Network.

      CBN HOST: How would you describe the job President Trump is doing?

      BIRX: He’s been so attentive to the scientific literature and the details and the data.

    416. lisab says:

      France, Germany and Spain have better numbers than yesterday.

      germany looks like it will increase, but not by much

    417. Phil says:

      Oh, hell. A WH bill signing without Pelosi and Schumer present.

      The MSM is going to go crazy.

      Get ready.

    418. jason says:

      Yes but the same number or a number that represents less of an increase than the day before is good.

      The WA numbers usually come in around 6, let’s see what they say.

    419. jason says:

      No pens?


    420. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      The Troll Train hasn’t made its stop here today despite the market taking a dump. I guess watching Chuck and Nancy get humiliated was too much to bear

    421. jason says:


      “The Road to Coronavirus Hell Was Paved by Evangelicals”

    422. jason says:

      “Trump’s response to the pandemic has been haunted by the science denialism of his ultraconservative religious allies.”

      Dr. Birx describes herself as Evangelical Christian. Is she “anti-science”?


    423. jason says:

      “The Troll Train hasn’t made its stop here today”

      They are in triple shock:

      – Pelosi didn’t implement socialism without an election.

      – Trump poll numbers are good

      – The stock market came back up from the lows and millions have not died yet

    424. Tina says:

      Presser should be starting soon.

    425. jason says:

      Wolf issues stay at home order for York Co. from tonight until April 6.

      York Co. has 29 cases and zero deaths.


      “But for the first time in about two weeks, since hospitals and commercial labs began picking up the burden of testing from the state, the day-to-day number of new cases dipped slightly: There were 531 new cases in Pennsylvania reported Friday, down about 30 from the day before”

    426. lisab says:

      At least since the 19th century, when the proslavery theologian Robert Lewis Dabney attacked the physical sciences as “theories of unbelief,” hostility to science has characterized the more extreme forms of religious nationalism in the United States. Today, the hard core of climate deniers is concentrated among people who identify as religiously conservative Republicans. And some leaders of the Christian nationalist movement, like those allied with the Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation, which has denounced environmental science as a “Cult of the Green Dragon,” cast environmentalism as an alternative — and false — theology.

    427. lisab says:

      weren’t the pro-slavery people democrats?

    428. Tina says:

      Sounds like Fredos brother is hoarding.

    429. lisab says:

      “This denial of science and critical thinking among religious ultraconservatives …”

      as opposed to the scientific geniuses in hollywood and those with mfa degrees?

      now i am personally for a secular government but …
      these are the same people that said guam would tip over …

    430. jason says:

      The MSM is conflicted.

      They criticize Trump because although the US has conducted more tests than anybody South Korea conducted more tests PER CAPITA.

      However, when it comes to cases PER CAPITA, and deaths PER CAPITA, no, no, no… you have to use ABSOLUTE numbers.

    431. Tgca says:

      So Jadon, if you’re not interested in trading organic maple syrup for bullets, how about tofu? I got 4 containers with expiration dates in late April and May? I’m sure Mrs. Jadon can whip you up a nice vegan meal with this trade.

      Let’s deal dude!

    432. jason says:

      as opposed to the scientific geniuses in hollywood and those with mfa degrees?”

      Was the guy in Italy that said “hug a Chinese tourist” a religious conservative?

    433. jason says:

      WTF is tofu?

      I have few suggestions, very wide ranging.

      Beef, lamb, veal, goat, pork, duck, goose, venison, bear, and llama are all acceptable, so you can see I am VERY flexible.

    434. jason says:

      Bacon, I forgot bacon.

    435. lisab says:

      what is tofu?

      “Tofu, also known as bean curd, is a food prepared by coagulating soy milk and then pressing the resulting curds into solid white blocks of varying softness”

      the tough part is milking soy

    436. lisab says:

      “Two review studies found that men consuming higher amounts of soy, especially tofu, had a 32–51% lower risk of prostate cancer”

      of course what they don’t say is that soy does this by increasing the amount of estrogen in your body, turning you into a woman, and wtf is a prostate anyway?

      i think you guys just made that up

    437. jason says:

      “Tofu, also known as bean curd, is a food prepared by coagulating soy milk and then pressing the resulting curds into solid white blocks of varying softness”

      Sounds positively disgusting.

      I like food that you can just cut out of a slaughtered carcass, which dispenses coagulation and pressing, although aging is a desirable enhancement.

    438. mRviTO says:

      “wtf is a prostate anyway”

      a little ticking time bomb that kills you if all the other crap you’ve had to put up with hasn’t already

    439. jason says:

      That link between soy consumption and lower prostate cancer has been around for decades. Prostate cancer rates are lower in Asian countries. There could be other factors of course.

    440. jason says:

      Hey Bunu go tofu yourself.

    441. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Coronavirus may have infected up 50% of U.K. population according to the Oxford study. Herd immunity is building.

      GOOD NEWS about the #coronavirus:

      Oxford & Stanford Epidemiologists concur that millions have already been affected by the #Coronavirus with little or no symptoms.
      They say we’ve ALREADY developed herd immunity, and the virus is in it’s later stage. https://www.ft.com/content/5ff6469a-6dd8-11ea-89df-41bea055720b

    442. jason says:

      A lot of people got tofued in the stock market the last couple weeks.

    443. jason says:

      I am skeptical.

      If that were true, the testing wouldn’t be 90% negative.

    444. Tgca says:


      Herd? Like f*cking mooooo mooooo.

      Maybe CashCow but not moi.

    445. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Is the UK close to developing herd immunity? That’s the potential conclusion of an exciting study by a group of Oxford academics. The term herd immunity has been widely misused and condemned in the last few weeks, but if large numbers of Britons have developed Coronavirus and suffered very few symptoms it could – could – suggest that the death rates in the more apocalyptic modelling published last week might not come to pass.

      The latest modelling produced by the group of Oxford academics indicates that the Coronavirus may already have infected as many as half of the UK population.

      The Oxford’s Evolutionary Ecology of Infectious Disease group uses a “susceptibility-infected-recovered model”. Published today, it takes into account initial underreporting and the vulnerability of the general population to hospitalisation from respiratory illness.”


      We well may have been lowering the curve and raising the herd at the same time.

    446. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      464. Important to point out this is a model, and has yet to be proven as actually happening. In the meantime, social distancing remains a must.

    447. jason says:

      Well, as I stated above, I am all for building herds and it will increase the odds of Tgca being able to offer something edible in exchange for ammunition.

    448. Tina says:

      Steve Guest
      · 1h
      Joe Biden says he’d allow travel to & from countries that don’t have coronavirus under control?

      “Once we get this under control, there’s still going to be nations around the world that don’t… we’re going to have to make sure that travel to those countries two & from CAN occur”

    449. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Besides tofu tasting awful, it also has a side effect which result in a negative impact to something I do as a male. Am not going to eat edible estrogen

    450. Tgca says:


      How does tofu impact you bottoming? I don’t get that.

    451. Tgca says:


      Ok. We can exchange bullets for toilet paper. I’m down to 50 rolls so I will drive a hard bargain here.

      Same with water. Down to 60 gallons so don’t expect an easy deal.

      Perhaps I’ll be more flexible on organic canned beans, veggies or veggie soup in non-BPA cans since I’ve got about 120 of those.

      Let’s deal dude!

    452. NYCmike says:

      “Same with water. Down to 60 gallons so don’t expect an easy deal.”

      -Reservoirs are full. NYC tap water is, up to this point, THANKFULLY, flowing.

    453. Tgca says:


      Ewww. But how are those NYC pipes? I don’t worry about the water source but the contamination in pipes, especially in older buildings. I fill up water in large containers using reverse osmosis and other processes that remove impurities, and always have a few gallons of distilled water on hand too. My time in FL dealing with hurricanes taught me well. I can taste the difference between filtered and tap water.

    454. PresidentPaul! says:

      New Marvel heroes: snowflake and and safespace (not a spoof)


      Snowflake, a hero who joins the New Warriors following Outlawed, is Marvel’s first non-binary superhero.

      Snowflake’s twin, Safespace, is also one of the newest New Warriors. “Snowflake is the person who has the more offensive power, and Safespace is the person who has the more defensive power. The idea is that they would mirror each other and complement each other,” he added.

    455. jason says:


      Can’t make this sh-t up.

      “As the coronavirus rages, Americans’ views of President Trump have risen slightly to reach record highs, polls show. But he remains polarizing.”

      So all it took was a “slight rise” to reach record highs.

      But still polarizing.

    456. Tina says:

      Phil, did you see this?

      Bill Maher
      · 2h
      As today shld be the start of baseball, let me offer an analogy: let’s take out a tired starter who’s been wobbly through 4 and is gonna get shelled in the later innings. Let’s go to the bullpen and bring in a real ace. Biden should step aside and let @NYGovCuomo be the nominee!

    457. jason says:


      Ok. We can exchange bullets for toilet paper. I’m down to 50 rolls so I will drive a hard bargain here.”

      No deal. We have plenty of corn husks.

    458. Tina says:


      Donald J. Trump
      I love Michigan, one of the reasons we are doing such a GREAT job for them during this horrible Pandemic. Yet your Governor, Gretchen “Half” Whitmer is way in over her ahead, she doesn’t have a clue. Likes blaming everyone for her own ineptitude! #MAGA

    459. Tina says:

      Scott Gottlieb, MD
      · 1h
      This is GAME CHANGER. Abbott to market, starting next week, a fast point-of-care #coronavirus test, delivering positive results in 5min and negative results in 13min. Will deliver 50K tests/day to start. Kudos to Abbott and FDA’s Jeff Shuren and team at CDRH who are in the fight.

    460. jason says:

      I was looking at to where Biden could have flights to.

      Libya only has one case. Papua New Guinea has one.
      Timor Leste 1. Guinea-Bissau 1.

    461. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Horrible thing to ask, but looking at the numbers we seem to see a spike in deaths but a deceleration of new cases day over day. Anyone seen any stats on how long fatalities come after infection?

    462. Tina says:

      Gretchen Half Whitaker.

    463. jason says:

      Dan Crenshaw crushes Paulbot

      “Sloganeering is a convenient mental shortcut, but it’s not the same as actually thinking through the policy.

      This is not “corporate welfare” for poorly performing industries. These are great American companies that were told to stop doing business and taking in revenue.”

      Paulbot Amash:

      “Ah, yes. I’d forgotten these are *great* American companies. The millions of American companies facing the same plight that won’t be getting money from this fund must not be great, right? That would explain the different treatment. You’re good at thinking through the policy.”


      This would be a good point, if it were true.

      This bill helps businesses of all sizes, and smaller businesses especially. Small business loans get FORGIVEN. We’re helping businesses keep Americans employed.

      You’re lying to get attention, and you know it.”

    464. Phil says:

      Run out the clock, Joe. Get to the convention and then it’s too late. Democrats will then be stuck with you.

      Yep, the one attribute has been Biden was more electable than Bernie…but what happens when Democrats wake up and realize Joe is so out of it he isn’t electable after all? Answer – they already realize it.

      Better get moving Democrats. Time is a wasting.

    465. Country Dick Montana says:

      It does indeed look like there was a significant uptick in deaths in the US. The top 5 states(NY,WA,LA,NJ and CA) account for 65% of the deaths (1102 of 1695)for a death rate of 13.8/million. The rest of the country is 2.4/million. New York alone is 36% of all deaths in the US (31.2/million) with NYC about 2/3 of them for which calculates out to 55 deaths/million.

      New York and Louisiana and it appears have become big problems with NJ and Michigan accelerating.

      Of the large states CA, FL,and TX are all under 1 death/million.

    466. Phil says:

      CNN tonight announces that Joe Biden will hold a townhall meeting on CNN next weak.

      The nation breathlessly awaits.

      It will last an hour. Yikes.

    467. Country Dick Montana says:

      Of the large states CA, FL,and TX are all under 1 death/million.

      Actually CA is 2.4. FL is 2.1 and Texas is 0.9 in deaths per million.

    468. jason says:

      Very small (10%) increase in new cases from Thursday to Friday but spike in deaths (265 to 400).

      2/3 of the deaths were in 5 states, NY, NJ, MI, LA and WA.

      10 states reported no new deaths today, 12 reported only 1 death.

      Bright spot was NJ, significant drop in new cases.

    469. Cash Cow TM says:

      Is it true that Iceland has tested everyone in their country…and found 40 strains of COVID-19?

      Can the virus exist on money (coins and paper) and be transmitted that way?

      Can people test positive for CV-19 but never show any symptoms, never get sick, hospitalized or die (from CV-19)?

    470. Country Dick Montana says:

      489 – You must be using the same spreadsheet as me 🙂

    471. jason says:

      NJ not accelerating, at least not today. Yesterday almost 2500 cases, 1949 today.

    472. jason says:

      Inslee and Whitmer are jerks. But Trump should not call them out on the presser, or say he won’t call them. Saying he won’t call them undermines his argument that he is working with bipartisanship.

      “That Michigan woman”. Dumb.

    473. Country Dick Montana says:

      I am looking mostly at the deaths. NJ is looking a bit like LA was a few days before. NYC is a $ht show right now, no telling where that stops.

    474. jason says:

      Is it true that Iceland has tested everyone in their country…and found 40 strains of COVID-19?

      Probably. They only have a couple hundred thousand people.

      Can the virus exist on money (coins and paper) and be transmitted that way?

      Yes, it is possible. But you would still have to transfer it to your face.

      Can people test positive for CV-19 but never show any symptoms, never get sick, hospitalized or die (from CV-19)?


    475. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      California is up to 94 deaths, but that is in a population of 40,000,000. A total 4,657 people have been diagnosed with the virus, about 1600 in the Bay area.

    476. jason says:

      I stand corrected

      “So far, the country has tested 11,727 people—about 3.2% of its population of 364,000.”

    477. jason says:

      “Amid the fraught debate over self-quarantining, Iceland has remained curiously calm. It has no lockdown laws in place, simply urging people to remain at home if possible. Elementary schools remain open.”

    478. jason says:

      3.2% of the US population would be like 10 million, so they did do a lot of testing.

      But the US is doing 100k tests a day and that number is rising.

    479. Bitterlaw says:

      I just watched the first 2 episodes of The Plot AgainstAmerica. I never heard of the 2004 novel. HBO is trying to compare the premise of Nazi-friendly Charles Lindbergh to Trump but the book was written when Trump was a Democrat.

      The premise is that Lindbergh beat FDR in 1940 and laid down for the Nazis and Japan. It follows a Jewish family in Newark, NJ. I like it so far.

    480. Paul says:

      Bitter: I looked into getting HBO just to watch that. I might wait for the whole season to be out. It did send me down a rabbit hole of research into Charles Lindbergh the other night.

    481. jason says:

      Bunu will find a lot to like in Charles Lindbergh’s pro-Nazi ideas.

    482. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Before we go too far on talking about Lindbergh being pro-Nazi, lets not forget that once the United States went to war, Lindbergh volunteered and flew aircraft against the Japanese in New Guinea. He bombed targets and shot down a Japanese fighter. Lindbergh logged more than 25 combat missions, and close to ninety hours of combat time.

      He did this despite being only an aircraft consultant, but a Marine officer told Lindbergh: “it would be ok for him to engage in target practice on his way home.”

      He also figured out a way that combat airplanes could go farther on their existing fuel. He actually ended up meeting with General McArthur, who sent him back to New Guinea to teach pilots the method. In short, he made a major contribution to the U.S. war effort in WWII. He also reputated Hitler and Germany after the war, and confessed he was mistaken.

      Scott Berg has a great bio of Lindbergh.

    483. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      A quote for Berg’s bio: after Gen. MacArthur asked Lindbergh to go back and instruct the New Guinea squadrons in the method of fuel economy:

      “MacArthur also said Lindbergh could do any kind of flying in any plane he wanted. He showed Lindbergh his map of the South Pacific and outlined his general plan of action — the immediate steps, the future steps, “and the limitations which were imposed by present fighter combat radii.”

    484. lisab says:

      the joe biden town hall discussion thread on reddit r/politics

      is a virtual civil war between biden and bernie supporters

    485. VictrC says:

      Lisa, can you post the link

    486. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      How can Bill Gates’s hold himself out as an expert in controlling coronavirus; when his record of controlling virtual viruses was not very good?

    487. VictrC says:

      SDC – ouch, but true. Microsoft is the Chinese Military, Russian hackers and nigerian cons best friend.

    488. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      India and France onboard with use of chloroquine for treatment and prevention of coronavirus. Rachel Maddow and trolls outraged.

      @MichaelCoudrey BREAKING: French government reverses earlier ban on hydroxychloroquine for treating COVID19 patients in light of successful clinical studies showing significant efficacy against the virus.

      Hydroxychloroquine may now be prescribed to treat COVID-19 in France.

      “Amid rising coronavirus cases in the country, the national task force for Covid-19 constituted by Indian Council for Medical Research (ICMR) has recommended hydroxy-chloroquine as a preventive medication for high-risk population.

      According to the advisory, it should be given to high risk population — asymptomatic healthcare workers involved in the care of suspected or confirmed cases of Covid-19 and asymptomatic household contacts of laboratory confirmed cases.

      The protocol recommended by the National Task Force has been approved by the Drug Controller General of India (DGCI) for restricted use in emergency situations.”

    489. John says:

      Just released….
      University of Washington’s Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation predicts 81,000 deaths from the coronavirus in the next four months.

    490. Tina says:

      RNC Research
      · 9h
      Asked about the Obama administration’s pandemic preparation failures, Biden claims “I was not part of it”

    491. Tina says:

      From this Cn and n video, they gave him the questions in advance, that is why he keeps looking down at his notes.

      Biden still botched his responses.

    492. Hugh says:

      512. I’ll take the under. But if correct it was not worth tanking the country. There will be more collateral health issues and death from the cure.

    493. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Ex-LA Dodger broadcaster Vin Scully is simply the best. Check out his tribute to the USA and its citizens as we battle the coronavirus. The man is a national treasure and a true patriot.


    494. Phil says:

      Fox Poll

      Biden 49 – Trump 40.

      Their last poll had it 49 – 41.

      The one before that in January had it 51 – 39

      Hoping Democratic power brokers believe the Fox polls. Just as long as they believe them through the convention…..then it will be too late. I fear they know better, however, and will try and bump him off the ticket. After all, the DNC has their own polling.

      At least the Fox polls are consistent. Whether it has been on impeachment and removal from office, approval ratings, or head to head with Democrats, you can always count on these Fox polls to be the negative outliner when it comes to Trump.

    495. PresidentPaul! says:

      The herd immunity idea is probably how this ends rather than any medicine or vaccine.

      It’s spreading too fast for anything else. Hopefully keep as few heath systems from being overwhelmed as possible in the mean time.

    496. Hugh says:

      Those fox polls are amazing. I do not understand retaining incompetent service providers. It does not speak well for fox or their brand. However fox has been sliding for a long time. So long as they stay right of msm which is very easy to do they can’t lose. Well unless someone with deep pockets out flanks them.

    497. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Urns in Wuhan far exceed death toll, raising more questions about China’s tally

      Urns are reportedly being distributed at a rate of 500 a day at the mortuary until the Tomb Sweeping Day holiday, which falls on April 4 this year.

      Wuhan has seven other mortuaries. If they are all sticking to the same schedule, this adds up to more than 40,000 urns being distributed in the city over the next 10 days.


    498. Phil says:

      The Fox polls for the last decade have skewed way left. The polling they used in 2004 (Opinion Dynamic) skewed left as well. I believe their last poll in 2004 had Kerry up over Bush by a point. Bush won by 3.

      I don’t really get it. They always have a huge percentage of their sample as independents. The independents must skew waaay left s they claim the party ID is pretty even.

    499. jason says:

      Key part of that U of Washington “prediction”

      “But according to Murray, these numbers aren’t concrete.

      “It’s early in the epidemic so it’s pretty hard to know what’s going to happen,” Murray said.”

      The MSM was using the UK study of 500k deaths in the UK and 2 million in the US until it got revised to 20k and “maybe much lower”.

      To get 81k deaths (which would be about double what the flu kills each year) at a 1.2% mortality rate you would need approx. 7 million cases.

      We are not seeing that kind of curve in any other country so far.

    500. jason says:

      Personally, I think the theories that the Chinese are hiding a lot of new coronavirus cases are BS. They have opened up Wuhan and Hubei provinces and if there were indeed still huge amounts of cases it would be fairly easy to document.

    501. jason says:

      Before we go too far on talking about Lindbergh being pro-Nazi, ”


      We can never go “too far” on talking about Lindbergh being Pro-nazi.

      He WAS a flaming anti-semite pro-Nazi.

      As a racist, he probably didn’t like Asians either, so saying he was willing to bomb the Japanese hardly excuses his Nazi sympathies.

      There really is no “excuse” for being a Nazi anyway,sorry.

      “Lindbergh wasn’t shy about his white supremacist and anti-Semitic beliefs. In 1939, he wrote for Reader’s Digest that Americans “can have peace and security only so long as we band together to preserve that most priceless possession, our inheritance of European blood, only so long as we guard ourselves against attack by foreign armies and dilution by foreign races.” According to him, Hitler “accomplished results (good in addition to bad) which could hardly have been accomplished without some fanaticism.”

      His wife was a fan of Hitler, too, writing in a letter home that the dictator was “a very great man, like an inspired religious leader—and as such rather fanatical—but not scheming, not selfish, not greedy for power, but a mystic, a visionary who really wants the best for his country and on the whole has rather a broad view.”

      “A few Jews add strength and character to a country, but too many create chaos,” Lindbergh wrote in a 1939 diary entry. “And we are getting too many.”

      (When asked what they talked about during Lindbergh’s visits to Ford’s plant, the automaker reportedly replied, “When Charles comes out here, we only discuss the Jews.”)

      In early 1941, Lindbergh testified before Congress in opposition of the Lend-Lease Act, which eventually passed and allowed the US to offer aid to Allied nations. In September of that year, Lindbergh delivered an infamous speech in Des Moines, Iowa. In the deeply anti-Semitic speech, Lindbergh blamed American Jews for the tilt towards war. “Their greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our government,” he said. Even by the standards of the day, the remarks were considered outrageous. The Des Moines Register condemned it as being “so intemperate, so unfair, so dangerous in its implications that it cannot but turn many spadefuls in the digging of the grave of his influence in this country.”

    502. Phil says:

      I don’t know what to believe about the Chinese. My gut says they are lying their rears off. A county that densely populated which has been reporting like only 150 cases a day and just a handful of deaths per day over the last three or 4 weeks – just a little too good to be true IMO……that just doesn’t jive with the timeline in Italy where there doesn’t seem to be any end in sight. Even with the lag in timeline between the two countries if China was that over the hump you’d think we would have seen at least somewhat of a slowdown in Italy by now.

      I pray the numbers from China are somewhat correct because that is light at the end of the tunnel for us. The discrepancy of their numbers with Europe and them leads me to believe we can’t rust the numbers from the Chicons.

    503. jason says:

      Too bad about Tom Coburn. Great conservative leader.

      Of course, the deadenders elevated him to RINO later in his life because he correctly pegged Ted Cruz as a grandstander for trying to shut down the government over Obamacare funding.

    504. jason says:

      hat just doesn’t jive with the timeline in Italy where there doesn’t seem to be any end in sight.”

      Actually, Italy has had 6 straight days of cases lower than the peak on March 21.

      Yesterday, deaths spiked for some reason, let’s see today.


    505. Phil says:

      I think if there isn’t some sort of a CONSISTENT at least beginning of a decline in cases from Italy in the next 7 to 10 days it will be safe to conclude the Chines are falsifying their number.

      We will see.

    506. jason says:

      Excusing Lindbergh of being a Nazi sympathizer by saying he “bombed the Japanese” is somewhat akin to excusing Mussolini from being a fascist because the “trains ran on time”.

    507. jason says:

      I think today’s number in Italy will be important to see if the downward trend continues.

      But even if it doesn’t we still have South Korea, they have definitely flattened their curve.

    508. Phil says:

      True about S Korea. I hadn’t thought of that country….and they DO have credibility. Seems their timeline is two or three weeks pre Italy. South Korea IS a cause for hope alright.

    509. jason says:

      Ok, I get it now about China, we are talking about that they maybe under reported the number of cases and deaths, not that there still is a raging epidemic there.

      I can buy that.

    510. jason says:

      Speaking of fascists, KY governor establishes hotline for you to snitch on your neighbors. CA has a similar hotline but you would expect it there.

      “Unfortunately, the snitching virus managed to spread 3,000 miles across the country to Kentucky, where the state’s government recently set up a hotline for the express purpose of allowing residents to rat out their coughing neighbors. On Monday, Democratic Governor Andy Beshear announced the creation of the hotline, which allows residents to report individuals and businesses who they believe to be violating the state’s social distancing orders.”

      Elections have consequences.

    511. jason says:

      Don’t laugh, it is sad. KY actually has public employees who should be doing other things tied up in this idiotic hotline.

      “On the recording, the governor also tells the caller, “if you are aware of an establishment or gathering that isn’t complying with the state’s orders, work from home instructions, or social distancing procedures, please stay on the line to speak with an employee in our labor cabinet.”

      The hotline will be open from 7:30 am to 9:30 pm for your snitching pleasure, but if you prefer to do your tattle-telling late at night, you can leave a message. According to the report, a Labor Cabinet employee will be present to answer each call.

      However, it appears that the state is having trouble fulfilling its promise. How do I know? Because I tried calling the line myself, hoping this was just some brilliant display of mass trolling. But when I called, I got a message informing me that all of their agents were busy serving other stool pigeons. That’s right, dear reader, there were enough coronavirus narcs in Kentucky to tie up the line used for squealing.”

    512. Phil says:

      If you look at the South Korea graphs it is VERY encouraging.

      They had their first handful of cases around six weeks ago (Feb 14th or so).

      Cases began to double daily around Feb 20th. The line tracks way up for the next 18 days when it reaches its plateau on March 8th. They stay at that consistent plateau for one week exactly until March 16th when the line drops consistently from that day forward. They are now in very good shape.

    513. Phil says:

      Looking at the Italy graph I was surprised to see they were only five days behind South Korea on reporting their first case. Obviously their graph has looked a lot more drawn out.

      I guess their “hug a Chinaman” policy was less than successful.

    514. Wobbles says:

      I just called in the hotline to report my neighbor for wearing a MAGA hat in his yard.

    515. jason says:

      I asked Amos Stoltzfuss what has changed for him since the coronavirus crisis.

      He said it is getting warmer.

      However, I did hear the bishop has imposed a 3 week moratorium on barn building.

    516. Pitchaboy says:

      1.6% vs. 4.6%. US vs World current MR. Demographics and quality of care likely. Unknown is strain variation. Do we have a less virulent strain?

    517. Phil says:

      Just another question we have no idea about.

      Let’s face it, when it comes to this virus no one knows squat.

    518. Nancy Phucking Pelosi says:

      Donald Trump rode me hard and put me away wet. AND IT WAS MY BIRTHDAY

    519. Tina says:

      No doubt China is hiding its numbers. Also, their tests are questionable. They are junk.

      There is a massive protest going on and so far, the cops appear to be backing down.

    520. Phil says:

      No doubt they are lying – big time, Tina. You can’t look at their reported numbers and help but laugh….of course, it isn’t funny.

    521. Tina says:

      The presstitutes love the commie Chinese.

      As Trump’s Poll Numbers Rise, Media Begin Censoring Press Conferences https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/26/as-trumps-poll-numbers-rise-media-begin-censoring-press-conferences/#.Xn05js_WWy8.twitter

    522. Tina says:

      Also, the faux news poll is garbage.

      So, if trump is at 49 percent approval, he only gets 40 percent against China Biden, who had a disastrous week?

    523. dblaikie says:

      543 The huge amount of testing is an important reason.

    524. jason says:

      MI governor wants to make this about politics… a real moron.

      Now claims Trump told vendors not to supply MI…


    525. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      According to the Guardian, unlike other countries, China does not count include asymptomatic infections in its reported cases:

      “Some of the concerns about China’s reporting stem from how Beijing classifies patients. While the World Health Organization and South Korea consider anyone who has tested positive for the virus as a confirmed case, China does not include asymptomatic infections in its final tally.

      Late on Monday night, Wuhan’s health commission published a Q&A explaining how asymptomatic cases are dealt with. On why such cases are not included as confirmed cases, the commission said that patients were quarantined for 14 days and if they began to show symptoms they would be designated as confirmed and that data would be published.”

    526. Phil says:

      Yeah, totally believable Trump cut off supplies to one of the most important states in his re-election.


    527. John says:

      Not really. I live in King County. The coronavirus is out of control.
      ….”hundreds of new cases in Washington and 28 deaths just on Friday…”

    528. Victrc says:

      Any coincidence that the DNC had the Mi Gov give the response to the State of the Union and now she is in the super minority of Gov’s complaining about the response from the Feds.

      I think not. She was given instructions from the DNC to make it political to ensure that Trump loses MI in November. Remember, its all about the election for them, people be damned. Who cares if they are suffering, if we can win the state and hold what is now a competitive Senate seat, then forget the people. They are expendable, plus, they are Trump voters anyway right, seniors.

    529. jason says:

      John is the brainwashed MSN spokesman here, propaganda over facts

      What we are interested here are trends and a reduction in the rate of increase.

      WA could have “hundreds of cases and 28 deaths” and still show a flattening of the curve.

    530. Country Dick Montana says:

      556 – “Who cares if they are suffering, if we can win the state and hold what is now a competitive Senate seat, then forget the people.”

      That is my thinking with all of the stay at home and non-essential business rulings. Primarily Dem governors, albeit there are a few Republicans doing so. Easy way to tank the economy.

      I had a discussion with a friend today about this, concerned that unemployment may reach depression levels. I mentioned that the Depression and Great Recession may have had roots in some capitalistic excesses (exacerbated by the actions and Policies of the Government.) This time it is not a “failure of Capitalism” but entirely on government actions at the state and local levels to stop people from working. A quasi-totalitarian command economy now in some places and we can see the results. Unemployment and shortages of goods.

    531. Tina says:

      Out of all the leftist governors, I think my governor, who I despise, Gadfly nuisance, is doing the best,

      Michigan Governor is a disaster.

      Cuomo got caught horsing supplies, those same he refused to buy years ago.

      Washington state Governor needs to see a shrink.

    532. TinaIsMentallyIll says:

      Tina drenched in irony. But malignant narcissists are often completely lacking in self awareness,

    533. John says:

      Sure I am. My only point is that hundreds of new cases and 28 deaths in just one day is not the trend I see as very positive.

    534. GoalpostMoversINC says:


      from “out of control”

      to “not very positive”


      Please make check payable to GMI.

    535. mRviTO says:

      WAPO Rome bureau chief:

      New official data from Italy, looking at first 6,801 people who have died here from covid-19.

      * Of those, 84 people (1.2%) are younger than 50.

      * 70.4% of dead are men

      * ~88% had pre-existing conditions

    536. Tina says:

      Trumps mini presser today:

      1. We’ll have enough ventilators. 100,000 to be made here after calling out Gm.

      2. Says he may quarantine off the New York City metro area for 2 weeks. Sounded like a strong likelihood this would happen.

    537. Tina says:


      Rebecca Ballhaus
      · 17h
      Trump has told people he wants his signature to appear on the direct payment checks that will go out to many Americans. Normally, a civil servant—the disbursing officer for the payment center—would sign federal checks. ?@AndrewRestuccia? scoop: https://wsj.com/articles/house-lawmakers-race-to-washington-to-ensure-coronavirus-stimulus-passes-11585318472?shareToken=st7c0c092e225c44fc8112495294363ed3&reflink=share_mobilewebshare

    538. PresidentPaul! says:

      Hospitals getting 1 hour tests today, and this solves a lot of problems.

      This means instead of a wasting gowns and masks on someone for days (sometimes a week) waiting they can clarify quickly whether this needs to continue or whether they are negative.

    539. PresidentPaul! says:

      Dems are obsessed with Cuomo now.

      Imagine having such a bad candidate demented Joe that all we talk about is how to get him replaced by the convention.

    540. PresidentPaul! says:

      The cringe candidate.

      Demented Joe debating lying Paul Ryan


    541. mRviTO says:

      Fox has Trump winning no college whites by 13 while Monmouth has him up by about 30.

      So yeah… if Fox is right then Trump will lose.

      Fox also has Trump losing people 65+ by 20 points.
      Monmouth says he’s losing 55+ by 4.

    542. Big E says:

      Not sure getting rid of Joe will be that easy. He will probably have enough delegates to win the nomination. That means that he will have to bow out before he has enough delegates. In either case it will result in complete chaos. It will be impossible to unite the party. The Bernie bros will feel like Bernie was screwed again and will therefore just not vote in the general. Independents will be completely turned off. Cuomo would not be able to unify the party. That still won’t take into account the violence that is sure to happen at their convention. The DNC will stick with Biden and pray for a miracle.

    543. PresidentPaul! says:

      I enjoy watching these Europe presidents, mayors, US officials threaten ppl with jail for violating quarantines and then 5 min later they are always talking about how they plan to release everyone from jail because of coronavirus risk.

    544. jason says:

      Italy numbers in.

      7th straight day of cases under peak. Fewer deaths than yesterday.

      Spain and Germany fewer cases and deaths from yesterday.

    545. jason says:

      Fox also has Trump losing people 65+ by 20 points.”

      Is that right?

      He beat Hillary in this group 52-45.

    546. Phil says:

      Dems obsessed with Cuomo.

      The big wigs in the Democratic Party certainly are – because they understand how far gone Joe is. The rank in file Democrats? Still behind the curve on just how far gone Joe really is. The Party Elders are scared silly, however. They know Joe can’t survive on the campaign trail without embarrassing himself and getting beaten soundly on Election Day. You can’t hide dementia. Certainly not for seven months.

      Hopefully, Joe can hide out until the July convention and secure the nomination. Would be good for Trump, bad for Democrats. The party powers that be better get cracking if they are going to somehow elbow Biden out.

    547. Country Dick Montana says:

      565 – Rebecca Ballhaus is a young,never trumper graduate of Columbia, twit mascarading a legitimate journalist. Between her and the woman they brought in from the NYT run their mobile/social media operations, Louise Story, a lot of people dropped their subscriptions. Shame too. Their newsroom is nothing but younger NYT wannabe’s

      BTW, they changed their commenting section primarily because too many people we criticizing the reporters and they wanted “more diversity” from “unheard voices” in the comments section. I learned more from people commenting than the articles themselves.

    548. PresidentPaul! says:

      Two of the possible scenarios that end this thing
      1)herd immunity. If pharmaceuticals are too slow and this goes on for a couple months well then most everyone has it to the point it can’t spread anymore and we just did Darwinism basically
      2)The pharmaceuticals seem to think the monoclonals should be easy to make for this thing but it’s going to take a few months.

    549. Tina says:

      And this nut job indicated that supplies were being withheld.

      She is a disgrace.

      u apologize for creating a hoax about supplies being withheld?
      Quote Tweet

      Governor Gretchen Whitmer
      · 4h
      This morning we received 112,800 N95 masks in our shipment from the strategic national stockpile w/8k more on the way. Great news for our health care workers. We’ll keep working hard along with FEMA and the White House to get more of the PPE we need to keep Michiganders safe

    550. Country Dick Montana says:

      This what happened to the WSJ. Classic “safe place” thinking. There were a couple of trolls and since everyone was a subscriber and had to use their real names, most of the comments were incredibly articulate and very rarely abusive.


      “Indeed, when we looked at the demographics of our heavy commenters, we found they don’t represent the Journal as a whole. That led us to focus on the people who are not commenting as much. Women and younger people have been less represented among our commenters than they are among our subscribers, so we took a look at what was keeping them away. What we heard was they want to feel safe from bullying and share their comments in a forum in which they won’t be attacked. This is important feedback that led us to look at workflow changes that would enable us to better enforce our existing commenting policies.”

    551. Phil says:

      According to China, they have had less than 100 new cases and 8 deaths over the last two days.

      You know, when you lie, you need to make it at least half way believable.

    552. mRviTO says:

      Apparently kicking out the mainstream press is the key to controlling the coronavirus.


    553. jason says:

      A positive trend result today in total cases would be less than + 21000 new cases.

      We are at 12000 with about 8 hours to go (stats close at 10PM Eastern).

      A lot of states have not reported yet and there will be another NY dump later so hard to predict.

    554. jason says:


      Is what is good for a Michigoose good for a Michigander?

    555. mRviTO says:

      Is China using the same “tests” they sent to Europe that don’t work?

    556. jason says:

      Biden is really a lowlife…

      “If the administration had reacted to the ventilator shortage in February, a private sector effort starting now might have made lifesaving equipment in mid- to late April. Now it is unlikely to be before June.”

      Donald Trump’s inaction will cost lives.”

    557. jason says:

      Same guy who said banning flights from Wuhan was racist and xenophobic.

    558. jason says:

      3200 recovered in the US.

      This number will be increasing exponentially as the people that got sick at the beginning of the curve recover.

    559. Tina says:

      Melti down Cuomo

      hem Horne Retweeted

      Chuck Ross
      Cuomo on Trump’s possible quarantine/travel restrictions on New York: “From a medical point of view I don’t know what you would be accomplishing.”

      Not sure what he’s not understanding. Dr. Fauci said cutting travel from China helped limit spread. Same applies to NY now.

    560. Tina says:

      So, ny has 4000 plus ventilators.

      Only 1500 patients on them.

    561. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      jason says:
      March 28, 2020 at 2:46 pm

      Same guy who said banning flights from Wuhan was racist and xenophobic.
      No that was Luhan. Totally different situation

    562. mRviTO says:


      Tom Elliott
      Mar 27
      NYC “health commissioner” on March 2nd: “We know that there’s currently no indication that it’s easy to transmit by casual contact … We want New Yorkers to go about their daily lives, ride the subway, take the bus, go see your neighbors.”


      De Blasio on [March]10th: “We want to encourage” NYers going out. “If you’re under 50 & you’re healthy, which is most NYers, there’s very little threat here. This disease, even if you were to get it, basically acts like a common cold or flu. And transmission is not that easy.”

    563. jason says:

      No that was Luhan. Totally different situation”

      Right, there really was no need to ban flights from Luhan.

    564. mRviTO says:

      Maybe he was thinking of the New Mexico rep.

    565. Tina says:

      Luhan Virus.

      Said a week ago that he fought against n1h1.

      Yesterday, he said he had no input on combatting h1n1.

      In other words, he cannot remember being veep.

    566. Big E says:

      Cuomo will have great trouble being the democratic nominee. He will appear to be leaving NY during their period of need. He will look opportunistic and shallow. It will diminish his ability to look like a leader.

    567. Tina says:

      Ezra Cheung
      · 7h
      It is an embarrassing scene. @WHO Director General, Bruce Aylward, hangs up in an interview with RTHK when he is asked about reconsidering Taiwan’s membership. Ironically, despite being so close to China, Taiwan manages to keep the #coronavirus infection and fatality rate low.

    568. jason says:

      NYC “health commissioner” on March 2nd: “We know that there’s currently no indication that it’s easy to transmit by casual contact … We want New Yorkers to go about their daily lives, ride the subway, take the bus, go see your neighbors.”


      De Blasio on [March]10th: “We want to encourage” NYers going out. “If you’re under 50 & you’re healthy, which is most NYers, there’s very little threat here. This disease, even if you were to get it, basically acts like a common cold or flu. And transmission is not that easy.”

      But Trump was “downplaying” the virus…..

    569. jason says:

      The Dems don’t need Cuomo.

      Biden is beating Trump 49-40 according to the Fox Poll.

      All is good.

    570. jason says:

      Trump basically said the same thing but was attacked incessantly by the MSM.

      “If you rethought that or had time to analyze that public health strategy, I don’t know that you would say quarantine everyone,” Cuomo said during a press conference in Albany. “I don’t even know that that was the best public health policy. Young people then quarantined with older people was probably not the best public health strategy because the younger people could have been exposing the older people to an infection. “

      Cuomo said the smartest way forward would be a public health strategy that complemented a “get-back-to-work strategy.”

      “What we did was we closed everything down. That was our public health strategy. Just close everything, all businesses, old workers, young people, old people, short people, tall people,” said Cuomo. “Every school closed, everything.”

      Cuomo stressed the need for both public health and economic growth. “We have to do both,” said the governor. “We’re working on it.”

    571. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      This is odd.

      Trump Job Approval:
      Approve 48%
      Disapprove 51%

      National GE:
      Biden 49% (+9)
      Trump 40%

    572. Tina says:

      Barks pointed that out yesterday, sdc.

      Says that a president cannot be at 48 pe4cdnt approval, and only gets 40 percent of the vote.

      Faux polls also changed their pollster again.

    573. Tina says:


    574. Phil says:

      Yes, Biden up 9 in the Fox Poll.

      This is fantastic news, Democrats.

      No need to change horses. Stay with Joe. Smooth sailing to the WH.

      Trust me.

    575. Phil says:

      Never Trumper AB Stoddard has published an article in the Bulwark calling on former presidents Obama and Bush to construct a ‘national plan of action” on the ongoing crisis going forward and “force” Trump to enact it.

      You can’t make this crap up.

      These people are truly insane.

    576. PresidentPaul! says:

      Lots of ppl talking about numbers on here but with this new insta one hour test available USA numbers going to go up rapidly but that’s bc were getting test results instantly.

    577. PresidentPaul! says:


      Was approved a week ago but hospitals are just starting to implement it this weekend really.

      This means some of these hospitals have entire floors sitting waiting anywhere from 3-7 days for a test to come back before they can get things moving vs now having things instantly.

    578. PresidentPaul! says:

      I think 1 hour tests are going to reduce the covid pressure on hospitals at least 50% in the short term.

      Imagine having 100 people on isolation all waiting around for tests wasting all the PPE for days. Now instead you have an instatest where you know only 30 of them are positive and you can quit wasting time on the other 70.

      Not only that but now the ER’s will have an answer for every admission before they even get admitted going forward.

    579. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      It needs to be remembered that the vast majority of people who carry coronavirus do not get sick. It looks like at first they will be using the test to determine if someone with symptoms has the virus.

    580. Tina says:

      Yeah, Obama did well on h1n1 and bush did well on Katrina.
      Other than that stupidar has a great plan.

    581. Tina says:

      Aaron Rupar
      · Mar 27
      “[Trump is] so attentive to the scientific literature & the details & the data. I think his ability to analyze & integrate data that comes out of his long history in business has really been a real benefit” — this is shocking, hackish stuff from Dr. Birx.

    582. Tina says:

      TheLastRefuge Retweeted

      Michael Coudrey
      BREAKING: French government reverses earlier ban on hydroxychloroquine for treating COVID19 patients in light of successful clinical studies showing significant efficacy against the virus.

      Hydroxychloroquine may now be prescribed to treat COVID-19 in France.

    583. Phil says:

      So I kept hearing from the MSM that W totally mismanaged Iraq and Katrina. Now the media hacks want the same guy to ride to the rescue over this crisis.

      I just love the media.

    584. Tina says:

      He continues to be a day late and a $ short.

      Shem Horne Retweeted

      Matt Whitlock
      Worth noting that Congress passed legislation to make Coronavirus testing free for everyone 10 days ago.
      Quote Tweet

      Joe Biden
      · 2h
      Let me be clear: No one should have to pay for coronavirus testing or treatment.

    585. Tina says:

      Adrian Zenz
      The Dutch government has launched a recall of 100,000s of masks purchased from China because they do not meet quality standards and offer inadequate protection.

    586. Tina says:

      Idiotic comment to make.

      Chuck Ross
      Andrew Cuomo just now on CNN pushing back on measures against New York, defends his lockdown of New Rochelle saying it wasn’t to contain the people, “it was to contain the virus.”

    587. Tina says:

      Patrick Moore
      NY City political establishment has a lot of explaining to do. They encouraged large gatherings into early March & downplayed the danger. Now they have 50% of all US cases. Ignorant, pompous, pig-headed idiots. & they say it’s ?
      ? fault. ??

    588. jason says:

      Good news if you live in RI

      “Rhode Island Gov Re-Opens Gun Ranges After Discussions With 2A Group”

    589. jason says:

      Never Trumper has a meltdown:

      Anna Navarro:

      “Who are these 51% of Americans who approve of the way this lying, narcissistic, science-denying, petty, partisan, infantile, intellectual wasteland, lame excuse for a President with the vocabulary of a 4 year-old (apologies to 4 year-olds), is mishandling this crisis? Really.”

    590. Bitterlaw says:

      A few days ago, left columnist Richard Reeves died. When I was in college, I was invited to have dinner with him as part of a group of students (in a history honor fraternity). He was a flaming liberal but we a good debate/discussion over Reagan’s foreign policies. RIP, Mr. Reeves.

    591. jason says:

      Was there a presser today?

    592. jason says:

      Bitter had dinner with a flaming liberal?

      I would call an emergency meeting of the A-hole Club but due to the health crisis we will have to postpone any hearings.

    593. Tina says:

      Yes, she has a meltdown.

      The Golden Corral is closed.

    594. Tina says:

      No presser.

      Only a trump tarmac presser and speech in Virginia.

      In the meantime, meltdown cuomo is threatening to sue Rhode Island and Texas for a travel ban. He also wants no federal quarantine. Calls it a declaration of war.

      Also, Mayor Da Blahsio was caught walking in a closed park and people are still going to Central Park.

      This on top of the nyc epicenter and cuomo hoarding ventilators.

    595. Phil says:

      Sooo, the left has another issue to hit Trump on. We have gone from ventilators yesterday to today Trump bad because he is trying to quarantine NY. The new new issue of the day vs Trump. He is always doing too much for the left to be happy……unless of course he is doing too much.

      It will never end will it?

    596. jason says:

      So far only 500 more cases than yesterday, that is the good news.

      The bad news is with the second NY dump and 277 deaths in NY alone the toll today is 506 so far, 101 higher than yesterday.

    597. jason says:

      I was expecting the mortality rate to continue to decrease but actually it increased to 1.7%.

      Maybe Pitch can explain.

    598. dblaikie says:

      I feel putting a quarantine on NY and NJ and CONN is good policy. Pour supplies in there, make that area the center for controlled study of promising medicines but in addition contain the spread.

    599. Tina says:

      The issue is ny let nyc do its own thing.

      Ny was already weeks late in the self isolation.

      NYC is even worse.

    600. Bitterlaw says:

      It was 1988 or 1989. F off, jason

    601. Tina says:

      Reports suggest that disgusting and vile Michigan Governor is auditioning for Vice President.

    602. Ron N says:

      I am starting to think it’s time before the left brings it up. That Trump should order Marshall law and cancel the election until 2024. Because of the virus and the first 3 years lost to the fraud Russian investigation. I am just kidding but it will be a storyline soon I will put money on it. He’s is getting to much power the DPA, and maybe activating the reserves, and closing states. The media has brought all these events on and soon he will use them.

    603. Phil says:

      The Never Trumpers are completely out of their heads and getting worse every day. Full out and out rage. Pop a blood vessel rage. Navarro, Stoddard today. Should have got an inkling their rage was out of control Thursday when Robbie dropped by to blow up about, of all things, the malaria drug.

      They are all nuts. Stark raving mad.

    604. jason says:

      Total cases in NY are still lower so far than yesterday, if it holds would be good news.

    605. jason says:

      It was 1988 or 1989. F off, jason”

      Yeah, you are off the hook.

      I checked the by-laws regarding A-holes fraternizing with a-holes.

      There is a 10 year statute of limitations.

    606. jason says:

      12 states, DC and PR reported no deaths today, 12 states reported 1 death.

    607. Scooterboy says:

      I vote to kick Bitter’s azz out of the club.

      If you do….can I have his desk near the front?
      I’m hearing impaired and currently can’t hear chit while sitting in the back.
      My request for an interpreter has been denied 3 times also. You cheap Bastards !!!!!!

    608. lisab says:

      I was expecting the mortality rate to continue to decrease but actually it increased to 1.7%.

      Maybe Pitch can explain.

      statistically it is easy to explain

      new deaths is increasing at 130% a day, and this has been stable for a while

      new cases discovered is increasing at 102% a day

      now, that could be because the number of tests available is limited


      the people getting tested are self-selecting, i.e. only those who are really sick bother to get tested


      perhaps the rate of the number of new infections is decreasing, but since it takes a while to actually die, the rate of deaths has not gone down

      it is simply easier to count the number of people who die than testing people, they would have to increase the number of people actually tested — by 30% every day to keep the mortality rate the same

      but there is simply a limit to how many people can be tested

    609. lisab says:

      imagine if you had 100 people testing people today and they were fully employed

      tomorrow you would have to have 130 people testing

      and 169 people the day after tomorrow

      since that won’t happen, you will focus tests on the sickest people

    610. Pitchaboy says:

      The people dying today were infections from 3 to 4 weeks ago. The rates came down as screening increased cases. Mortality lags for the reason described above. So expect mortality rate to go up. Understand that calculating mortality rate when a pandemic is in a growth phase is fallacious because growth is exponential and not linear. This will be the sequence if things come under control
      1. Rate of rise of new cases will decrease
      2. New cases will plateau and then start to fall
      3. Mortality will go up and start to fall after fall of new cases

      Of course, true mortality rates will be known after antibody screening.

    611. jason says:

      new cases discovered is increasing at 102% a day”

      Totally wrong…

      17k on Thursday, 18.6 k yesterday, 19K+ today.

      Less than 10% increase a day.

    612. jason says:

      1. Rate of rise of new cases will decrease”

      Hopefully we are seeing this already.

    613. lisab says:

      Less than 10% increase a day.
      yes, today’s new cases # is 102% of yesterday’s new cases

      but new deaths is 130% of yesterday’s deaths

    614. jason says:

      I don’t know if we will get new case numbers yet from NY before 10PM but there are 7131 new cases so far vs 7285 yesterday.

    615. Pitchaboy says:

      Rate of rise in many places has flattened out. For instance in PA, it is flat. NY ruins it and they are paying the price for the stupidity of their Mayor in the first 2 weeks of March. The combination of higher numbers of infected and higher population density means NY takes a bit longer to flatten out

    616. jason says:

      Less than 10% increase a day.
      yes, today’s new cases # is 102% of yesterday’s new cases”

      You said

      New cases discovered is increasing at 102% a day”

      A 102% increase would mean a doubling in the number of new cases.

      If you have 10k cases and it increases 100% you have 20k cases.

      But if we are talking the same numbers, no problem.

      About a 10% increase in the number of new cases from Thursday to Friday, maybe less Friday to Saturday.

    617. Tina says:

      Yes China, we get it,


      Ryan Saavedra
      WHO in January: The coronavirus is not contagious

      WHO in March: “The time to act was actually … two months ago”

    618. Pitchaboy says:

      1. We need continued stay at home for 2 more weeks
      2. Movement out of areas with lot of infections should be curtailed
      3. Social distancing should continue

    619. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Some good news: Total cases for USA grew 18.5% day-over-day. That’s the first time I’ve seen it under 20% since before it started taking off

    620. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – Scooter’s request to have me kicked out of the club AND take my desk has lead me to the only possible conclusion…

      SCOOTER IS A TRUE A-HOLE. He is no longer responsible for parking.

    621. lisab says:

      Total cases for USA grew 18.5% day-over-day. That’s the first time I’ve seen it under 20% since before it started taking off

      yes, but that COULD be because the testing centers can only process a certain number of tests


      because the areas in question are shut down, so people are not going out to get tested


      it could be because the social distancing is working

      we don’t know

    622. Pitchaboy says:

      I feel optimistic. We shall watch over the next few days.

    623. lisab says:

      well … tomorrow would be about 660 to 680 deaths if the pattern holds

    624. jason says:

      Wow, Scooter IS a true A-hole.

      What balls, as a relatively new A-hole he thinks he would get your desk??

      You are right, he can be moved up, maybe we can put him charge of food and beverage.

    625. jason says:

      Ok Worldometer closed out the US new cases at 19372.

      That is only a slight increase from yesterday at 18600.

      Good news.

    626. VictrC says:

      Switching gears back to the election, and the bill that passed.

      Anyone who has any doubt that Sanders and AOC are not compete communists need only look at the unemployment clause he swung his hands around and made the claim “OMG poor people are going to make a couple more bucks!! It’s the end of the world because the people who make you money are going to make a small bit more. end of the world.” Then he threatened to torpedo the whole bill if they took out the clause where his constitutuents will make more money without working than if they do (WHICH IS ALL HE AND AOC AND THE LFT CARE FOR – not having to work and having someone else pay for it)

      Example. I met a cashier the other day, she makes $11 an hour and is going to get laid off Monday. She is ecstatic. She make $440 a week before, with unemployment in Texas she will now be collecting $865 a week.

      That’s more than a few bucks. She’s planning on traveling until August since she will get that money until July 31. DOUBLE HER SALARY.

      It’s a plan to ensure unemployment stays high until the summer so it a. Makes all those workers want to have government handouts because they make more money than they did, getting previously gainly employed people to get on the government dole. B. Makes Trump look bad because people wont return to work.

      That is their utopia.

      Btw works for someone making $20 an hour too..

      Before, $800 a week, now, in Texas $1100 a week.

    627. Country Dick Montana says:

      656 – One rule of unemployment is that they have to be looking for work and cannot turn down work if offered. Simple solution is that when the job comes back you call the employee back to work. If they refuse to return to work that is the end of unemployment. I think a lot of companies will be reporting those who do not return when called back.

    628. VictrC says:

      Country good to know, but I will check the language of the bill because Lord only knows what they slipped in.

      Ugh I just watched that moron AOC complain about the “bailout” to the corporations. What a lunatic. Who on earth does she employees Millions upon Millions of people. If those “corporations” go under so do the workers. PLUS, most of the “bailouts” are loans and will be repaid with interest.

      She has no business being in Congress. She’s wholly unqualified.

    629. jason says:

      Senator Chris Murphy

      “Michigan is the new Ukraine”

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    630. jason says:

      PA new cases 533 today, 531 yesterday.

    631. jason says:

      MSM hardest hit.

      “On the recommendation of the White House CoronaVirus Task Force, and upon consultation with the Governor’s of New York, New Jersey and Connecticut, I have asked the @CDCgov to issue a strong Travel Advisory, to be administered by the Governors..”

    632. jason says:

      No quarantine.

      MSM will have to go with Michigan, the new Ukraine.

    633. Country Dick Montana says:

      658-VC – Now one thing iI do remember is that they can and are encouraged to work. If it is less that UE they get the difference, i.e. $1000 for UE and paid $600 for work. UE would pay $400. I have to believe that this is a play on the “Universal Basic Salary” fantasy that Yang and some of the other Dems were pushing.

    634. Victrc says:

      Jason, how is Michigan the new Ukraine?
      What are they using to make this comparison other than the Governor complaining that the Fed govt wasn’t sending her anything, only to get a big shipment of stuff she was complaining they dind’t have?

    635. lisab says:

      $1000 for UE and paid $600 for work. UE would pay $400.

      why not stay home and make the full $1000 from UE?

    636. Wes says:

      6-6-6–the Number of the Beast.

    637. jason says:

      Jason, how is Michigan the new Ukraine?”

      Supposedly John Bolton was on the phone with an old friend in the WH and overhead Trump telling private companies they shouldn’t sell to Michigan.

    638. Tina says:

      The mi Governor is a loon.

      She made it up.

      She is also going after doctors for the Anti malaria drug.

    639. jason says:

      Schiff says a whistleblower heard that companies that withheld sales to Michigan would be exempt from federal taxes for 10 years, so the quid pro quo is clear.

    640. VictrC says:

      Ugh. I don’t even want to comment on it, other than she’s lost her mind. he wants to win the state. I guarantee he would carry supplies there on his back if he could

    641. Wes says:

      Whitmer won because of deep-rooted anti-Trump sentiment in Michigan in 2018 and some since-broken campaign promises. I don’t know if Trump can carry the state again given his narrow 2016 win there and the ramping up of antipathy toward him there since, but I certainly hope Whitmer fails in her 2022 re-election bid.

    642. Phil says:

      Trump’s best shot out of Michigan, Wisconsin and Pa is Wisconsin.

    643. Phil says:

      BTW Trump can lose Michigan and Pa and get to exactly 270 if he carries everything else he carried in 2016.

    644. Victrc says:

      Please don’t forget Trump will have an opponent and while there’s a chance he could lose Mi and PA the voters would have to be ok with Joe Biden who has been HORRIBLE through this crisis.

      A long way to November. Let’s not write off any states just yet, not celebrate victory in any either

    645. Wes says:

      I wasn’t saying anything about writing off a state, Vic. I was just pointing out the reality of the situation from 2016 to now. Trump certainly can carry MI. Whether he will is a different story altogether. Recent electoral results in the Wolverine State would seem to indicate Trump is at best tentative to repeat his upset victory for its electoral votes.

    646. Victrc says:

      Wes. I wasn’t countering your assessment if Michigan. I actually think it’s spot on. I think with Biden on the ticket, especially if he adds an AA woman, will bring out the AA vote in Detroit and it may be enough for him to carry the state.

      I was a bit encouraged by the Senatorial polling which showed James neck and neck. Wouldn’t it be ironic if James carried Trump across the finish line.

      My comment was more of a general comment, more to cast a question on whether Biden will end up being a drag on the ticket given his comments, his poor reaction to the crisis and some of the really bad comments he’s made (like today).

      Overall I think MI will be tough for him, same with OA. I think WI is solid red for him, and I’d venture to say he wins NH as well.

      Let’s hope he contributes to do more good than cringeworthy during this crisis and the economy (with $6T of money pumped into it) takes off starting in July (when I think we’ll really start to return to normal)

    647. lisab says:

      the economic problems could sink trump, i think it is biden’s main chance (there could be other trump scandals or missteps between now and november, but i tink the economy is the big item)

      is trump weaker or strnger than in 2016, i think stronger.

      1. he now has experience, that is no longer an argument against him

      2. he is the incumbent

      3. he won’t be outspent 2 to 1 this time, unless bloomberg coughs up a billion, he will likely outspend the dems 2 to 1

      4. biden does not have the blind loyalty of a large percentage of dems the way hillary did. no one will cry if biden loses. there will be people who cry in anger if trump wins, but not because biden lost.

      5. trump, as president, has some control on the news-cycle

      biden’s one weapon is that he is not trump … but … he is not bernie either, and that could be a problem

    648. lisab says:

      oh … and

      6. for good or bad, trump has certainly delivered on judges

      the never trumpers always said, “trump will appoint liberal judges”, but they were wrong

      and the “oh crap, trump is the nominee” republicans always said … well .. at least trump will appoint gop judges, were right

      trump has appointed MORE circuit court judges than obama did in 8 years

    649. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Utah has 602 coronavirus cases, and no deaths. Utah is also the youngest state, with the average age of 30.

    650. MichiganGuy says:

      March 29, 2020 at 12:22 am
      Whitmer won because of deep-rooted anti-Trump sentiment in Michigan in 2018…
      Um no. Yes, Trump is unpopular to some degree according to polls but, the reason Whitmer won was because she tied Schuette who was the Attorney General at the time to the highly unpopular Republican Governor Snyder. Look up Flint water crisis. That is the main reason she won. There was other reasons too but, that was the big one.

    651. Country Dick Montana says:

      “why not stay home and make the full $1000 from UE?”

      Most states require the recipient to be actively looking for work. If a job is offered and refused, the person can be reported to the state and lose UE benefits.

    652. hugh says:

      If the democrats want to lose all but ny, MA and California than try another impeachment hoax regarding MI. Nobody wants to hear it even their own partisans and nobody but their own partisans will believe it at this point. Even if true most of the country could give a rats *&^&(*). Keep it up dems you are setting up a running of the table that no one dreamed possible a few weeks ago.

    653. Tina says:

      Sounds like de blah was promoting WHO (China).

      Matt Wolking (Text TRUMP to 88022)
      · 15h
      De Blasio 3/10: “We want to encourage” NYers going out. “If you’re under 50 & you’re healthy… there’s very little threat here. This disease, even if you were to get it, basically acts like a common cold or flu. And transmission is not that easy.”

    654. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      ABC/WaPo Poll: “15% of Bernie supporters will vote for Trump as Biden faces “massive enthusiasm gap” in general election Sunday, March 29, 2020 at 9:30am
      “Indeed, strong enthusiasm for Biden among his supporters – at just 24% – is the lowest on record for a Democratic presidential candidate in 20 years of ABC/Post polls. More than twice as many of Trump’s supporters are highly enthusiastic about supporting him, 53%.”(H/t: Legal insurrection)

      Of course, the new FOX News poll shows Biden +9 nationally and +25 in Swing Counties.

      Which do you believe?

    655. Tina says:


      Trump presser 5 pm est.

    656. Tina says:

      Kellie Meyer
      · 42m
      CNN @jaketapper asks NY Mayor @BilldeBlasio why he urged New Yorkers to continue “going about their lives” showing video clips through March 13.

      He responds, “we should not be focusing on looking back.”

      Doesn’t admit any fault.

    657. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      The ABC/WaPo poll above is 49/47 Biden among registered. It was Biden +7 in February. Considering everything, that’s a pretty bad trend for Biden, especially this far out.

    658. PresidentPaul! says:

      Yesterday I warned everyone that cases were going to go parabolic now that hospitals were getting this one hour test over past 24 hours.

    659. jason says:

      You can’t make this sh-t up.


      “The coronavirus recession is exposing how the economy was not strong as it seemed”

    660. John says:

      I’m starting to having nightmares about the movie “the Wizard of Oz”….
      Pelosi coming out and blaming Trump for people dying ‘because of the way he’s led the country’?
      I’m starting to hear again the wicked witch of west saying…”I’ll get you my pretty, and you’re little dog too!”

    661. Phil says:

      Washington Post now saying the sudden decline in the economy is proof the economy wasn’t nearly as strong as Trump had been saying prior to the crisis.

      Got it.

      Stupid me. I thought the sudden crash in the economy was because we deliberately turned off the faucet and thus there is suddenly no demand for goods and services. Apparently, according to the Washington Post if you turn off the water and thus water no longer flows out of the garden hose it means there wasn’t really any water pressure to begin with before you turned the valve.

    662. Wes says:

      WaPo is an uberliberal media rag. I’m not at all surprised the writers would stoop so low.

    663. jason says:

      Yesterday I warned everyone that cases were going to go parabolic now that hospitals were getting this one hour test over past 24 hours.”

      Jury still out about “going parabolic”

      As of 6:0 PM the numbers are +16728 new cases and + 237 deaths.

      NY will have another dump before the day “closes” which will significantly alter these numbers.

      But anything under about 22000k new cases and +600 deaths would not be a “parabolic” increase as yesterday we had about +20000 new cases and +500 deaths.

    664. jason says:

      Btw, Fauci tempered that 100k prediction.

      “The director tempered his prediction by pointing out that models typically have a “worst-case scenario” built into the projections. “Generally, the reality is somewhere in the middle. I’ve never seen a model of the diseases that I’ve dealt with which the worst-case scenario actually came out. They always overshoot,” he clarified.”

      I don’t see the 100k deaths with the numbers shown so far.

      You would probably need 10 million cases to get that many deaths.

      The country with the highest number of cases per million is Spain at 1700 cases per million.

      If we had that many cases per million we would have 561000 cases.

    665. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Those who will get sick, will do so regardless if testing exists. We will learn a lot more about those who get mildly sick or are asymptomatic with testing. Those individuals can be quarantined to protect others, and may be given medicines like chloroquine as a preventive measure.

    666. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      694. Fauci is learning that anything he says will often be distorted by the liberal press to attack Trump.

    667. lisab says:

      did a bunch of posts get cut?

    668. jason says:

      Trump takes too many questions.

      They are all “gotcha” questions, so he should limit them.

    669. jason says:

      “Did you threaten states with quarantine?”


    670. jason says:

      News every A-hole could use.

      “Uranus has started leaking gas, NASA scientists confirm”


    671. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Level of Enthusiasm:

      Among Trump supporters:
      Very enthusiastic 53%
      Somewhat enthusiastic 32%
      Not so/not at all 14%

      Among Biden supporters:
      Very enthusiastic 24%
      Somewhat enthusiastic 49%
      Not so/not at all 26%


    672. Phil says:

      Not at all surprising numbers on Biden, SD.

      His numbers in Iowa, NH, and Nevada were lousy even though he was the presumed front runner. His primary run after Nevada consisted of southern state primaries like SC and Alabama loaded with black voters and a sudden uptick in other primaries among white voters suddenly scared that Sanders might be nominated and drag the party down to defeat.

      In short,there has been no enthusiasm for Biden whatsoever. There is nothing inspirational about Joe. He’s a 78 year old gaff machine. I pray he hangs on long enough to get the nomination.

    673. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      I spoke too soon on saying Utah had no coronavirus deaths; they now have three – all with existing health conditions. Two senior citizens. A 78-year old who just died was very prominent in the state, a former State legislative speaker.

    674. Country Dick Montana says:


      NY – 1026 deaths. An increase of 143.
      NYC – 776 deaths.

      Coronavirus is overwhelming some of New York City’s poorest neighborhoods, according to new data released by the city.

      Queens accounts for 32% of the city’s more than 30,000 confirmed cases as of Saturday — more than any other borough.

      Neighborhoods such as Jackson Heights, Elmhurst and Corona, which are generally poor, densely packed and have large non-English speaking populations, have been among the hardest hit, according to a city map showing percent ranges of people testing positive for the disease. In those areas, between 69% and 86% of the tests done have come back positive.

    675. Ron N says:

      I was just joking but CNN just ask the question can president trump delay the election. You can’t make this shi? Up

    676. jason says:

      NY – 1026 deaths. An increase of 143.”


      It was +277 yesterday.

    677. jason says:

      That would be half the number as yesterday if true.

    678. Country Dick Montana says:

      708. It was in the article. AP sourced and was posted at 7:22 CST. Waiting to see what worldmeters says.

    679. Country Dick Montana says:

      In reading it a little more carefully if was sayign as of Sunday morning. So it may be a off by half.

    680. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Ive been keeping Worldometers data in a spreadsheet. I have:

      * 6255 new cases today vs 7131 yesterday
      * 82 deaths today vs 277 yesterday

    681. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Sorry – that is for New York State. It rolls over at 8p ET so it should clear any moment. Sometimes they will update one last time then clear it out.

    682. Country Dick Montana says:

      Worldmeters generally has a final tally around 9:30 EDT. The numbers can go up a lot between 8 and 10 PM

    683. Pitchaboy says:

      As we go from 5 day test to 5 minute test, numbers could get dicey for a few days. But it is clearly slowdown in NY. It is picking up in LA and MI. Don’t get too carried away with mortality numbers. They will be all over the place. But, if they make a clear downward turn and maintain it in the upslope of a pandemic, it signifies effective treatment.

    684. jason says:

      Yes, numbers will still go up before it switches over.

      But most states are in, and there are some good numbers.

    685. jason says:

      Outside of NY there are plenty of bright spots in the state totals.

      Quite a few states with lower totals than yesterday.

    686. Victrc says:

      So what happens to the left and media’s argument that Trump won’t listen to/doesn’t listen to the scientists…when he listens to the scientists?

      Will they do what Pelosi did and said he should have done more early on, etc etc when the mayor of nyc was telling people to go out and have fun 19 days ago, I guess that was Trump’s fault as well.

    687. lisab says:

      So what happens to the left and media’s argument that Trump won’t listen to/doesn’t listen to the scientists…when he listens to the scientists

      i was listening to pbs radio … i’m probably the only one on hhr to do so … but yes they are still blaming trump

      basically it was “see! see! he said by easter this would be over, but now 2 million people will die and it is all trump’s fault”

      i’m paraphrasing, but that is essentially the message

    688. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Looks like it just updated. Not much change- NY State numbers unchanged – big drop in deaths, but its just one day

    689. jason says:

      “Two coronavirus patients in New York City are off ventilators and out of intensive care after they received an experimental drug to treat HIV and breast cancer.

      As the skyrocketing number of cases stretches city hospitals to the limit, doctors are racing to find out which drugs on the market or in development might help in fighting the infection.

      The drug, leronlimab, is delivered by injection twice in the abdomen, the Daily Mail reported.

      Of seven critically ill patients who received the drug in New York, two were removed from ventilators and two showed significant improvement.”

    690. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Footage from China’s Hubei province appears to show residents attacking police officers and vehicles on a bridge as they attempt to access neighboring the Jiangxi region. The unrest follows weeks of lockdown in Hubei, the epicentre of the coronavirus outbreak, the Hong Kong Free Press reported.
      This week, the province began to relax many travel restrictions to and from the area. The Hubei Health Commission announced on Tuesday that it would lift curbs on outgoing travelers starting March 25, if they had a health clearance code. In the provincial capital Wuhan, where the virus originated, travel restrictions will be lifted on April 8. The city has been in total lockdown since January 23.


    691. lisab says:

      oh … and they took a shot at reagan too …

      the … “scariest words in the world, i am from the government and i am here to help you”

      “well now this happens and suddenly they want two trillion from the government after four decades of belittling our governmental institutions and defunding them”

      first, it is NOT two trillion from the government … it is OUR money

      second, name one time the federal government has actually cut spending

    692. jason says:

      The NY numbers did not update yet.

      But hopefully we will be under the 501 deaths nationwide yesterday.

    693. lisab says:

      according to the trend of the last week we should have had about 700 deaths today

      either something big is changing, but would not have trump known that before the presser?


      the deaths were just not recorded today, e.g. “record it tomorrow mary, take the night off. they will be just as dead on monday”

      this would be a HUGE drop in deaths if true

    694. Pitchaboy says:

      Leronlimab is also used in cancer. Binds a protein called CXCR5 and prevents exhaustion of the immune system. This is being seen in severe COVID cases. It cuts back on the cytokine storm that kills. It could get combined with another drug called Tocilizumab

    695. Phil says:

      I don’t know if this is significant but the US number of recoveries suddenly jumped 40 percent today. They have been rising very slowly until today. I presume it makes sense as the new infections jumped quite a bit two weeks ago. Still, after a slow daily rise that’s a pretty large jump for one day.

    696. Pitchaboy says:

      Recovery numbers are not that important as they are predicated on test turning negative. Typically we wait 2 weeks after positive test and do it I. Those people who have clinically recovered

    697. Pitchaboy says:

      In those patients

    698. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Its time to stop referring to Wuhan as a success story, and to accept the fact that no one should believe anything the Chinese government says:

      From a March 10th Los Angelese Times article:

      “Xi said the coronavirus had been “basically curbed” in Wuhan and the surrounding Hubei province, announcing that China had succeeded in stabilizing the situation and “turning the tide.”

      * * *
      It was a moment of relief for many as Xi’s appearance bolstered citizens’ hopes that China may be able to return to normal in coming weeks, but tension for others as the party tightened its grip on China’s coronavirus narrative.
      Wuhan residents shared videos and photos on social media Tuesday morning of police entering apartments in the compound Xi visited and allegedly telling residents not to make trouble.Two police entered each home, the residents claimed, posting photos of officers in protective medical suits that said “Wuhan Public Security” on the back, sitting on their balconies under racks of drying laundry.

      Last week, Wuhan residents had screamed out of their apartment windows at Vice Premier Sun Chunlan while she was inspecting a compound. “Fake! It’s all fake!” they shouted, exposing that the disinfection and food delivery arrangements for the quarantined residents were a setup pulled together right before Sun arrived.
      “There’s no way to describe the kind of anger in our hearts,” said a Wuhan resident, a businessman living close to the compound Xi was inspecting, who asked not to publish his name for protection.”

    699. Phil says:

      Well, yeah. Just the ridiculous numbers they spit out on a daily basis is living proof the Chinese are absolute liars.

      Their stats are a complete joke. Nobody could possibly buy the numbers they are selling. Hard to believe anyone even bothers to print them.

    700. Tina says:

      Sorry, last post is mine.

    701. jason says:

      The worldometer site switched over, but the NY numbers did not update for the last 4 or 5 hours so I don’t think they are accurate.

      But in any case there was no exponential increase from yesterday.

    702. jason says:

      The NY government site is still showing 3:38 PM numbers


    703. phoenixrisen says:

      Yeah, that Fox News poll showing Biden +9 is totally legit. Party ID is 49D/40R/11I. D+9. Sure, that is what it will be in November.

    704. Phil says:

      Yep. 2016 exit polls had it D+3. Let’s hope Democrats believe this type of fantasy methodology long enough to actually nominate Joe in July. The DNC has their own polling so they actually know better than to buy this garbage. Hoping they choose to actually ignore their internal numbers and just go with Biden anyway.

    705. Phil says:

      The Chinese numbers just posted. Another batch of good news. Only 31 new cases and only 4 new deaths. Man, how do they do it? These Chicons really have a handle on things!

    706. jason says:

      Never let a crisis go to waste…

      “Bill de Blasio Threatens to ‘Permanently’ Shut Down Churches and Synagogues”

    707. Bitterlaw says:

      I never saw The Godfather. I know. I should have watched it years ago. The verdict? I thought it was very good. I have no idea why critics say it is one of the best movies ever made.

    708. jason says:

      Never saw the verdict.

      Godfather was good but not among my favorite 10 movies.

    709. Bitterlaw says:

      I meant my verdict on The Godfather.

    710. jason says:

      My favorite Paul Newman movies were Absence of Malice and The Sting.

    711. jason says:

      LOL, I certainly read that wrong.

      I had to look up The Verdict to see what it was about.

    712. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      738. “Man, how do they do it? These Chicons really have a handle on things!”

      They have an amazing expertise in fakery.

    713. VictrC says:

      LOL Bitter, you must not be Italian. My father turned over in his grave just from me reading that comment.

      If you grew up in an Italian NYC metro area family there are so many things in the movie that hit home (not so much the gangster stuff, but just the way they talk, the traditions, etc)

      I love the movie. And part II. Part III is an aberration.

    714. Big Joe says:

      Good 3-day rally last Tues-Thurs followed by a down day on Friday. Technicals are mixed with some projections showing that there’s still room for gains while others show a resumption of selling.

      Overall trend is still down. Current overhead resistance is in the 2,550 area and we are already there. If we break higher, the next resistance level is 2,700. If we resume going down then I’m afraid we will retest the recent lows.

      Good time to take profits on short term trades. And look to buy in again as we approach the recent lows.

      This can all change of course depending on incoming news.

      Big Joe

    715. jason says:

      I guess as a parody or quasi documentary as Vic suggests maybe it was great.

      As drama it was just ok.

    716. jason says:

      The MSM is doing what they to instill panic and crash the market.

      They jumped on Fauci’s statement that there could be 100k deaths by the end of the year like Roadkill Maggot does at any hint of bad news.

      But the virus numbers are going to improve sooner than later, and probably within 2 weeks.

      The market will respond accordingly.

    717. lisab says:

      when i wake up
      well i know i’m gonna be,
      i’m gonna be here stuck inside this house with you

      i can’t go out
      but i’ve got a lot of things,
      a lot of things that i could teach myself to do

      kids need a haircut
      well i guess that i could try
      and be the mom who gives a haircut to her kids

      i’ll learn a language
      ‘cause it’s among the many things,
      the many things that i have on my bucket list

      ‘cause i can’t fly 500 miles
      no i can’t walk outside my door
      so i will learn 1,000 things
      and i will learn 1,000 more

      i started knitting
      so if you’re running out clothes,
      just let me know,
      and i’ll make a sweater just for you

      i’m learning guitar
      i can only play one song
      i play it wrong, but i will practice and get good

      and now i garden
      because i bought a lot of seeds
      so many seeds that i will grow some food for you

      and i’m a cook now
      i’m collecting recipes
      from all my friends who post their dinner on facebook

      ‘cause i can’t fly 500 miles
      no i can’t walk outside my door
      so i will learn 1,000 things
      and i will learn 1,000 more

      ‘cause i’m inside!
      i’m inside!
      and i’m done driving, done driving to my work

      get inside!
      get inside!
      don’t spread the virus, please don’t be a jerk

      ‘cause we can’t fly 500 miles
      no we should all just stay in doors
      we could learn 1,000 things
      and we could learn 1,000 more

    718. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      #Wuhan residents estimate, based on calculations of cremations and urns now being returned to families, that between 42k-46k (!!) died in city + surrounding areas in the 2.5 months of lockdown. Far more than official figure of 2535 deaths. #COVID19 http://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/wuhan-deaths-03272020182846.html

    719. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “China has exonerated late whistleblowing doctor Li Wenliang, who was hauled in for questioning by police, who accused him of “spreading rumors” when he tried to alert the authorities about the emerging coronavirus epidemic in the central city of Wuhan.

      Police in Wuhan revoked a reprimand they issued to Li, who has since died from COVID-19, and apologized to his family for their treatment of him, official media said.

      Li, an ophthalmologist at Wuhan Central Hospital, had shared information from a patient’s medical records in a WeChat group on Dec. 30, showing signs of infection with a SARS-like coronavirus, the report said.

      Detained and reprimanded by police on Jan. 3 for spreading rumors, Li was among eight people to be detained and questioned in Wuhan over “rumor-mongering” around the new disease.”

    720. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      BREAKING: The United States FDA has issued an emergency authorization of anti-malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine to be prescribed to COVID-19 patients.

      Previously the drugs prescription to treat COVID-19 was considered “off-label” use.

    721. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Here is the FDA letter which authorizes the emergency use of hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19.


    722. jason says:

      After their attempt to pit Trump against Fauci failed, Birx is the new target.


    723. jason says:

      “The United States FDA has issued an emergency authorization of anti-malaria drug Hydroxychloroquine to be prescribed to COVID-19 patients.”

      Was that because some Long Island cryptocurrency lawyer recommended it?

    724. jason says:

      Amoral Scumbag hardest hit:

      “Based on the totality of scientific evidence available to FDA, it is reasonable to believe that chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate may be effective in treating COVID-19, and that, when used under the conditions described in this authorization, the known and potential benefits of chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate when used to treat COVID-19 outweigh the known and potential risks of such products”

    725. jason says:

      I am sure Amoral Scumbag will be here to admit he was wrong in 3, 2, 1…..

      Nahh, but he will probably be here to attack Dr. Birx for praising Trump.

    726. jason says:


      “Based on the totality of scientific evidence available to FDA, it is reasonable to believe that chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate may be effective in treating COVID-19”

      Amoral Scumbag:

      “Robbie says:
      March 26, 2020 at 4:07 pm

      See, Jason fraud. This is why it was wrong for Trump, as president, to promote a super-small study of hydrochloroquine and a Z-pack (six whole patients) as a miracle cure for coronavirus. Providing false hope is a terrible thing to do in a panic.

      EXCLUSIVE: ‘Gift from God’ coronavirus ‘cure’ touted by Donald Trump is promoted by a FAKE Stanford University ‘researcher’ who is actually a cryptocurrency-hustling Long Island lawyer whose bogus science paper was removed by Google”

    727. Pitchaboy says:

      Based on available evidence positive patients in the high risk group should get this drug at diagnosis. It may well reduce hospitalization and mortality. (Data preliminary)

    728. PresidentPaul! says:

      Hospitals have already been giving hydoxychloroquine for weeks now.

      I don’t know why these news articles keep saying to give it with azithromycin though bc that’s seems trolly. Maybe add some zofran to that toxic mix.

    729. Country Dick Montana says:


      According to this article NY has 1176 deaths and NYC has 776.

    730. Messy says:

      750. I’m stealing this…I hope it was you who wrote it.

    731. jason says:

      The US daily case curve seems to be flattening out.

      I think the total death number from yesterday failed to include about 200 deaths, but that would still put it lower than the 501 from Saturday.


    732. dblaikie says:

      If hydooxycholoquine is found efficient in treating covid19 it will effectively kill the main stream media. It will be the straw that broke the camels back.

    733. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Stephen Koukoulas

      US Presidential election betting:

      Donald Trump $1.90
      Joe Biden $2.40
      Andrew Cuomo $23.00
      Bernie Sanders $34.00
      Hillary Clinton $41.00
      Mike Pence $41.00

    734. jason says:

      The coronavirus COVID-19 is affecting 199 countries and territories around the world and 2 international conveyances”

      At every presser Trump marvels that the virus is in “150 countries” and who knew there were so many countries.

      I wish someone would tell him he can skip that.

    735. jason says:

      I have learned that a cruise ship is an “international conveyance”.

    736. NYCmike says:

      “It will be the straw that broke the camels back.”

      -How high can they stack it without it tipping over? AMAZING balancing by these loaders!

    737. jason says:

      I don’t have any loose cash or I would put $1000 on Cuomo at 8 cents.

      If he is the nominee I would cash out at $12k.

      Certainly better bet at this point than Bernie at 7 cents and Hillary at 6 cents.

    738. jason says:

      I bet you are going to be able to get some great deals on international conveyances when this is over.

    739. Phil says:

      Will the Commie Troll be here today? It’s been five days now. He was here nonstop for a month and then poof. I want my commie troll!

    740. jasonj says:

      Ok, Worldometer finally updated the NY, US, and death toll numbers for yesterday.

      Deaths were 362, a significant drop from 501 on Saturday.

      Total cases were only slightly higher at 19,913.

      NY cases were + 7286 and deaths were 180.


    741. jason says:

      Nice little rally on the Dow, so we probably won’t see Roadkill Maggot.

    742. jason says:

      I doubt Trump at this point would say this will peak in 2 weeks if Fauci and Birx were not onboard with the prediction.

      I still don’t see where the 100k deaths are coming from unless it is very long term.

      So I am cautiously optimistic.

    743. Phil says:

      I don’t care! I want my commie troll….now!

    744. jason says:


      “During a Thursday appearance on CNN, New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell blamed the federal government for giving her “no red flag” ahead of the coronavirus outbreak in their city. Passing the buck to Homeland Security, the FBI, and the CDC for not advising her to stop the Mardi Gras celebrations out of fears over the novel virus.”

    745. jason says:

      I am sure the FBI gave a lot of thought over sending “red flags” to NO.

      I am surprised she didn’t blame the Secret Service too.

    746. Phil says:

      Ah, yes. Another in a long line of Democratic hack mayors elected by the moronic voters of New Orleans. At leas this one hasn’t gone to prison – yet. Give her time.

    747. jason says:

      The worst outbreaks are in two cities run by Dems who didn’t heed any warnings but want to blame Trump.

    748. jason says:

      I have to give Mike DeWine in OH some credit. I thought originally he had somewhat jumped the gun on closing schools but the OH numbers are pretty impressive so far.

      1623 cases as of yesterday and 29 deaths.

    749. Phil says:

      She is a worthy successor to the likes or Ray Nagin….currently serving his ten year sentence in federal prison for 21 counts of graft and bribery. He was another master of passing the buck during Katrina. He was another beauty.

    750. NYCmike says:

      “I have to give Mike DeWine in OH some credit.”

      -Can’t disagree with this.

    751. dblaikie says:

      I don’t blame the health folks in talking about 100000 deaths. They need a number to sober people that this is serious and need to follow the guidelines. In addition it is setting the stage to declare victory by the end of April with far fewer fatalities than expected.

      So far Trump has been effective in his imperfect Trumpian way. A little less ego. A little less talk about Governors he doesn’t like. But Trump will be Trump. But his call with China and Europe. His leadership with Industry. And his work with the Congress have been exemplary.

      And his enemy’s in the media seem uglier and smaller every day.

    752. Tina says:

      The media could help a lot In the trump pressers by only sending in business and health reporters. Stop sending in 5e millennial political drat apologists. This is not even a controversy because cuomo is investigating it.


    753. Tina says:

      Case in point, this reporter is nothing more than a commie Chinese apologist.

      Yamiche Alcindor
      · Nov 19, 2018
      China has risen so quickly that your chances of improving your station in life there vastly exceed those in the United States. https://nyti.ms/2DtMtMv

    754. jason says:

      McCabe lawyer thinks Fox can be sued for “misleading” the public.

      Damm, DeBlasio is screwed.

    755. jason says:

      China has risen so quickly that your chances of improving your station in life there vastly exceed those in the United States.”

      Why is he still here?

    756. jason says:

      NYCmike says:
      March 30, 2020 at 11:38 am

      “I have to give Mike DeWine in OH some credit.”

      -Can’t disagree with this.”

      NYC is trying to besmirch my reputation again by agreeing with me.

      Others have tried this lame tactic with the same epic failure.

    757. PresidentPaul! says:

      Will the 25th amendment apply to demented Joe?

    758. lisab says:

      I’m stealing this…I hope it was you who wrote it.

      no … i modified a few words, it is one of the coronavirus spoofs going around

    759. Phil says:

      No. 25th only applies to those with an R by their name.

      Confirmed by Chuck Todd.

    760. lisab says:

      “During a Thursday appearance on CNN, New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell blamed the federal government for giving her “no red flag” ahead of the coronavirus outbreak in their city.

      did she not watch cnn news?

    761. Wes says:

      You literally can’t make this up:

      CFG says AOC is more conservative than Mitch McConnell.


      No wonder most of their candidates are jokes and losers.

    762. Country Dick Montana says:


      SO PA Governor Wolf lays off the lowest part time employees. How’s that extra $600 a week for UE sounding now to these guys. Dems are just snakes.

      In the mean time while those in provate sector are getting laid off, the government workers are still getting a paycheck for staying home. It has always been my opinion that when UE goes up in the private sector, then non-essential government employees should also feel the pain. After all their salaries are paid, ENTIRELY by private sector workers.

    763. jason says:

      Italy numbers in.. 9th day of cases below the peak on March 21st.

    764. dblaikie says:

      I have a question. Will Rachel Maddow apologize and say she was wrong when she said that it was nonsense and the Navy Hospital Ship Mercy wouldn’t arrive for weeks?

      If the past is prologue she won’t! What astonishes me about the media is that they utter lie and falsehood over and over again and then when they are caught, they just move on to the next thing as if it doesn’t matter what the truth. If they say it, is must be true! Damn the facts.

    765. Tina says:

      Can this guy stfu?

      US House candidate, CA-33
      · 14h
      Replying to @martfluck @PrakritiGaba and @Fxhedgers
      Regarding hydroxychloroquine, it has not been successful everywhere. There was a controlled study in China showing there was no difference. Also, combining it with Z-pak can cause irregular heartbeat & death in some people.

    766. jason says:

      Lowest number of new cases in the last 13 days (since March 17)
      Highest number of new recoveries (1,590) since the beginning of the epidemic

    767. jason says:

      it has not been successful everywhere.”

      This guy wants to hold public office? Geezus

      Chemo is not successful on everyone. Should we not treat anybody with it?

    768. PresidentPaul! says:

      He’s actually dead on. I’ve been saying combining that with z-pac is troll stuff for a while now.

    769. jason says:

      These people who are deathly afraid of using drugs that might help people because they see it as a threat to their political views are absolute scum.

    770. jason says:

      “troll stuff”

      You would know…

    771. Tina says:

      They are like members of the flat earth society.

    772. PresidentPaul! says:

      Zpac+hydroxychlorquine is troll.

      It’s a been a troll thing, and everyone knows it. That’s why I said add some zofran to the mix!

    773. jason says:

      Bunu giving out medical advice is like Bunu lecturing on anti-Semitism.

    774. PresidentPaul! says:

      Take all three for triple QT prlongation meds and send them right to the morque.

      Might as well have been the dude who drinks chloroquine phosphate from the pet store because he can’t read a label.

    775. PresidentPaul! says:


    776. Phil says:

      China continues to lead the world in containment of virus. Only two deaths per million. The US is up to 7. Clearly, Trump is screwing this up. He needs to be removed. Now.

      Rick Wilson tweets impeachment not enough. He now wants show trials.

    777. Tina says:

      Doj investigating the Congress critters that sold stock.

      Burr retains Legal Counsel.

    778. Tina says:

      Interesting on China,

      There are reports from others, that reinfection rates are rising in China,

    779. Phil says:

      NYT with big news – China to the rescue. Plane full of medical supplies from China arrives in NY.

      Thanks, NYT. Thank God for China.

      Got it.

    780. Pitchaboy says:

      Who is President Paul and why does he write ignorant things. Zofran is an anti emetic and for some reason he seems to love it.

    781. Phil says:

      WJ reports Cuomo approval skyrockets.

      The switcheroo begins.

      So long, Joe. It was nice knowing you. About to tossed into the trash heap along with Senator Torricelli.

      Electability made Joe the useful nominee. Now that has faded. What else does he have? Nothing. So long, Joe.

    782. DW says:

      Cuomo has nothing to offer but northeast socialism, delivered by someone with the charisma of a mortician. He would not be able to flip WI, FL, OH or NC.

    783. PresidentPaul! says:

      What was ignorant? I spoke only truths.

    784. Country Dick Montana says:

      819 – I think that was only in NY where 9/10 think he is doing a good job.

      But it is interesting that Trump is already saying out loud that Cuomo will be a better candidate.

    785. Phil says:

      Agree, DW….but My point is that Democrats on the inside know what a disaster Biden is. They are terrified. Rank in file Democrats haven’t quite got the word on Joe yet. They will be given the word at the proper time. Count on it

      BTW, Cuomo is giving quite a speech during his daily news conference as we speak. Talking almost exclusively about national unity and national policy. LOL

      Good lord, people. You can see this coming a mile way. No, Cuomo wouldn’t be a great candidate….but who else the got. Answer? Nobody.

    786. VictrC says:

      For anyone who wants to know just how much Democrats/Liberals hate businesses please see the following (which should also serve as a guide for anyone applying for the 7(a) SBA payroll loans for their small business:

      The original GOP bill had the following:

      The Total of your monthly average of Payroll, Rent/Mortgage. Health insurance, and interest on all your debt payments multiplied by 4

      After Pelosi came in it was changed to the following:

      The average monthly payroll, less all payments for employees who make more than $100,000 a year multiplied by 2.5

      So Pelosi and Schumer, who claim to care for the little guy, reduced the amount a small business could get by nearly 50%, then limited how much they could borrow to nothing more than payroll, and then totally screwed over tech companies, et al, by limiting the total compensation per month you could borrow for to $8,333 a month (as an example almost every engineer I have makes more than $100K per year. You can not hire one for less than that, SUBSTANTIALLY more than that.)

      Thanks Pelosi and Schumer. They really want to keep people unemployed and would rather they collect UE than work or get paid by employers.

    787. Scooterboy says:

      New You Gov Poll

      Biden: 46%
      Trump: 40%

      Was Biden + 9 last month

    788. PresidentPaul! says:

      Biden died like 6 months ago though

      Biden dancing

    789. jason says:

      PA + 668 yesterday

      PA + 668 today

      What are the odds….

    790. Phil says:

      Cuomo’s news conference continues….still hammering national unity theme over and over. There are no blue states or red states blah blah blah….remind anyone of another such speech from the past? LOL

      The guy is now running for President. The only stumbling block now is how to cast Joe aside.

      Insiders working on it. Only way is for Joe to “voluntarily” bow out. Logistics on that have to be worked out.

    791. jason says:

      PA +7 deaths yesterday + 7 today

    792. Joe J says:

      825, You Gov poll is trash. D+10 sample. 30% not even registered to vote and 13% that don’t even identify as a D, R or I. Sounds fishy to me.

    793. jason says:

      What time is Trump’s presser?

    794. Phil says:

      Believe me, Democrat insiders have real polling behind the scenes. They know these Biden polls are not only trash but way behind the curve.

      They are “working on things”

    795. jason says:

      Trump should run like he IS 10 pts behind.

      He knows he can overcome that.

      “Hillary Clinton has widened her lead over Donald Trump, polling 14 percentage points ahead nationally, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll, which comes 12 days before the presidential election.

      Conducted after the final presidential debate, the poll finds the Democratic nominee leads Trump among likely voters 51% to 37%, a significant lead over the Republican candidate.”

    796. Phil says:

      French numbers finally in. Very disappointing. All the other European numbers were very encouraging. France appears to be bucking the trend on the continent.

    797. Tina says:

      China Biden has 20 million viewers to his you tube, corona virus pressers.

    798. jason says:

      That poll also had Hillary getting 1 in 6 Republicans.

    799. Phil says:

      Is that a typo, Tina?

    800. Tina says:

      Phil. He is claiming that.

    801. jason says:

      Phil, I think that is a reporting anomaly in France.

      The drop in cases yesterday was just too dramatic to be real from 4500 Saturday to 2500 yesterday.

      So today it is back to + 4300.

      Let’s see tomorrow.

    802. Wobbles says:

      Well, I watched it 593 times.

    803. Tina says:

      Russian Hoaxer, Madcow, said that the naval ships would not arrive in L.a. and Ny for a couple of weeks.

      The naval ship for Los Angeles arrived on Friday and the one for Ny arrived today.

    804. Tina says:

      I have been following this tweeter feed. The guy is an obgn and his predictions have been correct vs the imperial model.


    805. Phil says:

      Has to be, Jason. Those are going to happen. Like the European trends in general. Those appear to be real.

    806. lisab says:

      the big trouble is that if biden drops out

      the bernie bros will want the prize

      not giving the nomination to bernie will start a war

    807. lisab says:

      “the first thing we have to do is depend on what the President is going to do right now” biden

      sooooooooooooo … we can oppose it?

    808. PresidentPaul! says:

      Biden died 6 months ago quit being mean to him.

      It’s a dead body like the weekend at bernie’s movies that the campaign workers keep taking out on these public outings.

    809. lisab says:

      biden touched his eye during his presser

    810. Tina says:

      Here is Biden captured today on a twitter feed.

      He is reading from notes. They probably gave him the questions in advance.

      But this is just awful.


    811. Tina says:

      David Catanese
      · 41m
      . @JoeBiden struggled mightily at the top of his @msnbc interview where he looked to be reading from notes to answer a question.

      “We have to depend on what the president’s going to do right now. And first of all he has to tell, wait til the cases…”


    812. Country Dick Montana says:


      Interesting last line from Cuomo:

      “My only goal is to engage the president in partnership. This is no time for politics,” Cuomo said. “I’m not running for president; I was never running for president. … I just want a partnership to deal with this.”

    813. Country Dick Montana says:

      Another article from Yahoo News (yes, I know – might as well quote HuffPo) states that all but 13 deaths in NYC the deceased had underlying conditions. That’s 98%.

    814. jason says:

      “ZURICH (Reuters) – Novartis Chief Executive Vas Narasimhan said his Sandoz generics unit’s malaria, lupus and arthritis drug hydroxychloroquine is the company’s biggest hope against the coronavirus, Swiss newspaper SonntagsZeitung reported on Sunday.

      “Pre-clinical studies in animals as well as the first data from clinical studies show that hydroxychloroquine kills the coronavirus,” Narasimhan told the newspaper.

    815. Wobbles says:

      What does this guy know?

      He wants to sell drugs.

    816. jason says:

      “Novartis has pledged to donate 130 million doses and is supporting clinical trials needed before the medicine, which U.S. President Donald Trump also has been promoting, can be approved for use against the coronavirus.”

    817. jason says:

      The stream of “anecdotal evidence” has become a river.

      Maybe this is not the miracle drug we want, but it is clear that it does help at least some people.

    818. jason says:

      Novartis is a mega pharma company.

      Their CEO is not going to come out and say the drug is their best hope against coronavirus if they are not pretty sure it has benefits.

    819. Country Dick Montana says:


      PA Governor Wolf shuts Pennsylvania down indefinitely and issues stay at home order. I really can’t see people putting up with this for a real long time.

    820. Phil says:

      As Lisa says, Bernie and his followers will want the prize once Biden, uh, “voluntarily” bows out. They won’t like it when it’s AWARDED to someone else out of the blue. Bernie will have to be, uh, “CONVINCED” to stand down.

      They have ways and means. Horses heads, anyone? Just ask Senator Torricelli. LOL

      I’ve seen this Democratic movie before.

    821. jason says:

      Some people are just lucky I guess.

      “An execution previously scheduled for this week in Texas has been stayed for 60 days by the state’s Court of Appeals as a result of the coronavirus health crisis.

      John Hummel, 44, was scheduled to be executed on Wednesday for the 2009 triple murder of his pregnant wife, his 5-year-old daughter and his father-in-law.”

    822. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      In San Diego the coronavirus restrictions are turning into a joke.

      The mayor closed the parks after there were problems with crowds on beaches. This may be right for some areas, but in urban parks this has pushed people walking and running, who were abiding by social distancing, onto crowded sidewalks — where they are passing close to dozens of people.

      Meanwhile construction projects are exempt, so in neighborhoods where businesses are closed and any social interactions are restricted, you have construction workers working in close contact with each other (violationg social distancing rules) not wearing face masks or other protection.

    823. jason says:

      Wolf is an absolute moron, geezus.

    824. Tina says:

      Got it just a little editing mistake.

      Daily Caller
      · 1h
      CBS News Says ‘Editing Mistake’ Led To Misleading Video Showing An Italian Hospital During Segment On New York’s Coronavirus Crisis https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/30/cbs-news-editing-mistake-video-italian-hospital-new-york-coronavirus/

    825. Phil says:

      Come on Tina, we ALL make mistakes.

    826. Tina says:

      · 32m
      Woman Who Ingested Fish Tank Cleaner Is Prolific Donor to Democratic Causes https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/woman-who-ingested-fish-tank-cleaner-was-prolific-donor-to-democratic-causes/

    827. Tina says:

      When will be there a “mistake” in favor of Republicans?

    828. DW says:

      Cuomo “I’m not running for president; I was never running for president…”

      Interpretation: I am not running because I don’t have to run, I will be appointed.

    829. Proud Obamacon says:

      Wow!!! Trying to catch up on some comments here and I keep throwing up my chips LOL .. The delusion and conspiracy believing here is off the rocks! I love it. Keep up the good work!

      Who needs to pay for comedy central when yall here providing free comedy!


    830. Tina says:


      : “There’s also no doubt the rate has slowed. We now have a doubling of cases every 6 days.”

      Folks, that’s great news if that holds.

    831. Proud Obamacon says:

      Captain Dick,
      “PA Governor Wolf shuts Pennsylvania down indefinitely and issues stay at home order. I really can’t see people putting up with this for a real long time.”

      Huh, what are you trying to say? People are going to riot? People are going to congregate. PA is gunna be the next NYC?


    832. Tina says:


      Us surpasses 1 million tests completed.

    833. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Here is a link to a document entitled “National Coronavirus Response: A roadmap to reopening”; by Dr. Scott Gotlieb, of the American Enterprise Institution. Have heard Pence and the Coronavirus Task Force are heavily influenced by it. Here is its recommendation regarding moving to “Phase II.”

      “State-by-State Reopening in Phase II. Individual states can move to Phase II when they are able to safely diagnose, treat, and isolate COVID-19 cases and their contacts. During this phase, schools and businesses can reopen, and much of normal life can begin to resume in a phased approach. However, some physical distancing measures and limitations on gatherings will still need to be in place to prevent transmission from accelerating again. For older adults (those over age 60), those with underlying health conditions, and other populations at heightened risk from COVID-19, continuing to limit time in the community will be important.

      Public hygiene will be sharply improved, and deep cleanings on shared spaces should become more routine. Shared surfaces will be more frequently sanitized, among other measures. In addition to case-based interventions that more actively identify and isolate people with the disease and their contacts, the public will initially be asked to limit gatherings, and people will initially be asked to wear fabric nonmedical face masks while in the community to reduce their risk of asymptomatic spread. Those who are sick will be asked to stay home and seek testing for COVID-19. Testing should become more widespread and routine as point-of-care diagnostics are fully deployed in doctors’ offices.”


    834. Proud Obamacon says:

      I see VC is whining about poor people getting a few extra bucks that will barely help their situation. Sickening.

      All while he’s perfectly ok with Billions in handouts. But give the people a few extra dollars and he gets triggered!!! Maybe they’ll be able to pay their rent now or feed their kids, horrible!!!

    835. Nancy Phucking Pelosi says:

      Can someone get Proud Obamacon to stop dry humping my leg? I just had them waxed

    836. dblaikie says:

      Looking at the Stats I don’t see having 150000 or 100000 deaths with. Instead I see cases starting to flatten out. In the next two weeks watch some Governors start to remove the strict stay in shelter orders.

    837. Paul says:

      The couple who drank the fish tank cleaner were Democratic paid crisis actors. The husband gave his all. But it was for a good cause.

    838. Paul says:

      Thankfully, we aren’t relying upon dblaikie for expertise on pandemics.

    839. Jan says:

      In Los Angeles Mayor Garcetti is threatening to cut off water and electricity to any non-essential business showing signs of business activity. Some of these officials are becoming minor dictators in mandating compliance with their strict shelter in place orders. Coastal areas here, like San Diego, are also
      restricting walking along the beach, surfing etc. It’s amazing how fast life has changed and closed down in a relatively short period of time.

    840. Phil says:

      Nancy’s leg getting quite a workout.

      BTW, she will NEVER be intimidated.

    841. Paul says:

      By end of day, we’ll be close to passing China in number of deaths. Of course, china’s numbers are becoming a bit meaningless.

    842. Phil says:

      A bit?

    843. VictrC says:

      Yes, VC was complaining about making people make more money by NOT working, than by working. VC thinks workers should get 100% of their pay until their employers call them back, but not make 200% of their pay to NOT work. Novel idea huh?

      As well, VC doesn’t want there to be 20% unemployment because people don’t want to go back to work when they can live the Bernie Sanders style, paid by the govt to do nothing.

      Ah, Billions in Bailouts huh. Why don’t you look at the use of funds, it is for business to …wait for it…keep workers hired and paid so they DON’T go on unemployment.

      But I can see how people like Sanders want them to go on UE, make more money than they were being paid for not working becuase then they will vote for more government handouts so we become just like

    844. Proud Obamacon says:

      I see yall still not posting Rasumussen approval numbers. How long before Tina starts posting memes about Rasmussen? Did Rasmussen join the Deep State ? LOL

    845. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil- Did you respond to my bet? If Biden is not the Dem nominee on Election Day in November, I will donate $100 to your favorite charity.

    846. Phil says:

      Yeah, but we’ve been posting most polls including Biden’s blowout lead of 9 points in the Fox poll. Living proof that Joe’s got this. Feel free to share that one with your Democratic friends.

    847. Proud Obamacon says:

      VC is either naive or purposely misleading. You really think corporations are going to use the Billions on workers and their interests? Of course not. They’ll retain workers up to the minimum required, and will look for loopholes to layoff as many as possible.

      I find it funny that VC gets triggered over giving the poorest people a few hundred extra bucks. Really perplexing that that’s the one thing he really really hates in this bill. Very telling. You do know those same people still have to abide by Unemployment requirements like actively looking for work and taking a job offer no matter how bad it is? Give me a break.

    848. Phil says:

      You’re on, bitter.

    849. Proud Obamacon says:

      Why yall dump Rasmussen for ABC? LOL

    850. Phil says:

      St Jude’s, bitter. What’s yours?

    851. Bitterlaw says:


      Some people can’t handle staying at home. I hate it, too, but I haven’t snapped.

    852. janz says:

      Phil, I think you’ll win that bet.

    853. Tina says:

      The presstitutes do not like the my pillow guy, who is making 50000 masks a week.

      They are triggered

    854. Nancy Phucking Pelosi says:

      Sorry I humiliated you in front of your friends here, Proud Obamacon. Trump owns me like Sigfried owns Roy.

    855. Proud Obamacon says:

      So.. UNLIMITED quantitative easing! Nice. Where is Jason to profess his love for venezuela LOL

    856. dblaikie says:

      It is a little sad bad PObamacon’s post lack much conviction. Instead they are sort of pathetic and mean spirited. So let me provide the passion!


    857. Proud Obamacon says:

      Good one DB.

      So DB, tell me why you think unlimited QE is a great idea? You like adopting Venezuela monetary policies? Do you?

    858. Bitterlaw says:


      Lauren Hill dreamed of playing college basketball. It was cut short when she was diagnosed with brain cancer. But she did play one game before she died.

    859. NYCmike says:

      I(remmaH) CM

    860. NYCmike says:

      Heh – put the I in the wrong place!

    861. Nancy Phucking Pelosi says:

      Proud Obamacon’s pillow was covered in bitemarks and tears Saturday morning.

    862. Proud Obamacon says:

      Well DB?

      And DB, you know the airline execs completely mismanaged their companies. They took the tax cut and bought back stock, they spent they profits on stocks, they BORROWED MONEY and bought back stock with it. Why should they be rewarded by being allowed to keep their lush jobs making $425K or whatever obscene amount they make? Why should they get BILLIONS when they’ve already shown they never took Finance 101? Why DB Why?

    863. Nancy Phucking Pelosi says:

      @904 Because Trump rode me and Chuckie like a pair of cheap tricycles, you dumb ass.

    864. PresidentPaul! says:

      Proud Obamacon

      Is Joe Biden dead or you think he’s actually alive?

    865. Proud Obamacon says:

      LOL no response or troll responses.

      LOL yall a bunch of frauds. Yall claim to be conservatives but you perfectly ok with Venezuela level spending. Yup no problem, its very conservative isn’t it!

    866. Proud Obamacon says:

      Well, DB ran away. Turned out to be a complete lightweight. I feel bad now for using facts and logic with him. I hope he’ll be ok.

      Sorry to pour some truth on yall.


    867. VictrC says:

      PO. I have no problem with the extra money if they have to give it up when offered their jobs back. What I am against is creating a permanent unemployed class that makes more money by staying home than working. Forget about the political theory (socialist, capitalist, etc) applications, creating a permanent class of people who don’t want to work always ends up poorly.

      As for Airlines, so basically you are saying that all airlines should just go out of business because of a crisis that is not of their making. Even with not purchasing stock back with their own money (because a reduction of taxes means you keep more of YOUR OWN MONEY, the government doesn’t give you anything, it just takes less from you) they still could never have been prepared for six months of zero passenger revenue.

      So therefore are you suggesting we let them go under, the hundreds of thousands of jobs that go with them are gone, and there are no flying airlines in the USA?

      come on now, even you don’t advocate for that…I hope

    868. Nancy Phucking Pelosi says:

      @907 You’re wasting more energy than Hugh Jackman’s wife

    869. Proud Obamacon says:

      Permanent? I think I missed the part in the law that says these poor people get benefits for life. Maybe you can point me to it. LOL

      As for the airlines, I was talking about the execs. Read my post again. Get rid of the morons who drove our great companies into the ground.

      Stop building strawmen thanks pal.

    870. Country Dick Montana says:


      This could become very bad being in a nursing home, but it also lends a little bit to the “just how bad is it” theory. 2 people died, a tragedy for them and their loved ones. They had advanced dementia and were already in hospice. Are these really Covid 19 deaths? I wonder how many are Covid deaths are like these.

    871. Proud Obamacon says:

      “Good time to take profits on short term trades. And look to buy in again as we approach the recent lows.”

      You right about that. This is a textbook sucker’s rally. I’ll nibble at 18,000 as I been saying.

    872. dblaikie says:

      Why DB? Why? First stock buy backs are nothing new. It is a valid business practice. If any CEO was unethical they should be fired. Second we need a vibrant airline industry.

      What we don’t need is a loon like Pobamacon. He needs to in shelter his mind.

    873. VictrC says:

      You know PO I give you the benefit of the doubt and try to engage with you civilly, and you can not do the same. The demonstrates more about you than I.

      As for the permanent class, trust me, four months of double pay is going to create havoc in the unemployment market and create people who will demand that “basic monthly income” after this is over. We know that is Bernie’s crowds demand, same with Yang, and here it comes to fruition. If there wasn’t a clause that they would lose it and UE if they dind’t go back to work when offered a job many would just ride out the four months.

      As for Airline “executives,” first and foremost they are now having their pay capped at $425K, that includes all options, stock grants, etc etc etc.

      If youre proposal is to just fire them them all becuase there was an unexpected calamity that has never been seen before because some did stock buybacks in order to help the shareholders, many of whom were teachers, police, first responders pension funds, workers 401K’s etc, then you are just either ignoring what it takes to run a company of that size, or just committed to this concept that no one should be rewarded for running large corporations despite the complexity of it.

      Go ahead, fire all executives of AA, DL, SW, UA. See how long the airline operates for. I will tell you, a week. For you to ignore that there is skill involved in managing and running a large,. Complex company is downright negligent.

    874. Tina says:

      Tweet of the day

      Joel B. Pollak
      Can’t blame CNN for refusing to advertise a rival sleep aid
      Quote Tweet

      Oliver Darcy
      · 2h
      CNN cuts away from the White House coronavirus briefing when Trump invites the My Pillow guy up to the podium to talk.

    875. Nancy Phucking Pelosi says:

      Proud Obamacon says:

      This is a textbook sucker’s rally. I’ll nibble at 18,000 as I been saying.

      The only thing you’ll be nibbling on is Robbie’s ear.

    876. Proud Obamacon says:

      Oh DB. Good response. LOL. I’ll take it easy on you from now on.

      And VC, if you have use most/all of your profits to buy back stock, you should be fired. If you actually borrow money to buy back stocks, you should be fired. That’s just incompentence.

      And they get their pay capped at $425K. Oh those poor poor babies. They get to keep their lush jobs while the actual hard working people who keep the companies afloat get told to bend over.

      As for your permanent unemployed class, so you’re saying that its not permanent after all. You just made it up and got called out on it. Thank you.

    877. Cash Cow TM says:


      “Rampaging monkeys launching attacks sign of biblical plague, claims rabbi…”


    878. Proud Obamacon says:

      Where’s Jason to cut and paste ‘Venezuela” over and over? Oh yeah, he’s creaming his keyboard at the thought of unlimited money printing and unlimited QE, “whatever it takes” (Munchin).

      Yeah baby JASON <3 Venezuela. Who knew?


    879. jason says:

      Roadkill Maggot is back?

      What is the bad news? Did the Dow crash? Millions of deaths?

      It’s easy to wish for economic disaster when you are a despicable blood sucking parasite who probably has never made a single contribution to the country.

    880. Proud Obamacon says:

      LOL weak reply. Still jerking off to Chavez? LOL

    881. Cash Cow TM says:

      Random thoughts of social changes due to coronavirus and the new 6 foot rule…

      –Due to the 6 foot social distancing rule… going forward, Boy Scouts will never earn a badge for helping old ladies across the street.

      –At a bar, the new come-on line be:
      “Hey baby, You are getting me MAJORLY revved up…unless you want to get into trouble, you better move back another 8 inches.”

      –Basketball games can be easier for refs to call the game, since all players must stay 6 feet away from their opponents–AND personal fouls and trips to the foul line will be as rare as conservative Democrats and flying pigs.

      –subway cars and buses will be redesigned and be WAY longer.

      –All taxicabs will be as long as stretch limos.

      –Panhandlers will start using those expandable, extendo devices to collect change from passersby.

      –pickpockets will be as extinct as dodo birds.

      –At weddings, the presiding minister will end the service by saying to the groom, “you may now wave at the bride over there and blow her a kiss”.

      –the Armed Forces will ban hand-to-hand combat

      –the boyz in the ‘hood will have to retire their complex hand shaking maneuvers…

      –fights will break out because some dude in standing 5″ 10″ away from another dude and “invading his space”.

      –the numbers of pedestrians arrested for jaywalking will be HUGELY surpassed by those pedestrians arrested for “tailgating” (following behind someone else by closer than 6 feet).

    882. Nancy Phucking Pelosi says:


      Better than the thought of you jerking off to me

    883. Proud Obamacon says:

      Jason and Maduro sittin’ in a tree

      Wow Jason sure had us all fooled. He’s the biggest commie of them all!!! Amazing!

    884. jason says:

      Biden is scary now..

      He is actually reading this.

      “We have to depend on what the president’s going to do right now. And first of all he has, uh, .to tell…uh…uh…wait til the cases before anything happens — look, the whole idea…he’s got to get in place things that were shortages of.”

    885. Tina says:

      China Biden also says that it is a conspiracy theory for trump to say that people are stealing mask.

      This, despite, hospitals locking up those supplies because of theft.

      Also, cuomo on or around 3/6 indicated that he was investigating it.

    886. jason says:

      Who is Roadkill Maggot going to praise today?

      A. Stalin
      B. Castro
      C. Mao
      D. Lenin
      E. All the above

      Hint: not rocket science.

    887. PresidentPaul! says:

      Biden died.

      It’s weekend at bernie’s campaign. He’s filled with formaldehyde and now some sort of mechanized robot

    888. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “We’re taking a look” at a proposal by @ScottGottliebMD, McClellan, Lauren Silvis et al’s at @AEI to have everyone wear masks, Trump says. “I could see something like that happening for a period of time, but I hope it would be for a limited period of time.”

      Sounds like Trump is deferring to the experts on a lot of decision-making.

    889. Country Dick Montana says:

      There will probably be some changes (Washington is only reporting at 11:59 PM PT) but roughly what we are seeing is that NY has 5.9% of the US population and 42.6% of the deaths. They bare up to 69 deaths per million. NYC has about 913 which is 29% of the US total and 109 deaths/million.

      The top 5 states for deaths (NY,WA,NJ,LA and MI) account for 67% of all deaths but only 15% of the US population.

      For all the criticism of the US response take away the top 5 sates and we have a death rate of 3.7/million. Take away the top 10 states (81% of deaths/43% of population) and the rate the remaining 40 states is 1.9/million.

      Again, I have to be impressed with CA. 2 times the population of NY and about 11% of the deaths. Texas is even better with 50% more people but only 3% of the deaths.

      And Michigan is overtaking Louisiana as the next $ht show.

    890. jason says:

      +19,999 new cases today. Same as yesterday.

      However deaths were +565.

      I think some were from yesterday when NY numbers were delayed.

      In any case there is a definite drop in the rate of increase in new cases.

    891. jason says:

      If we are truly 10 days behind the Italy curve it should show in the next few days.

      We need a day with fewer cases than the previous day.

    892. Proud Obamacon says:

      Damn really weak game here today yall. Must be depressing having to champion venezuela like monetary policy, defend criminal execs, and attack single mothers just trying to feed they kids.

      Bring better game next time.

      Dow going up and then diving in mid-April, BJ Big Joe, the only sane poster on this site (besides me!)


    893. Nancy Phucking Pelosi says:


      Proud Obamacon says:

      Bring better game next time.


      Translation: I need to go jerk off to Stalin but I’ll be back later.

    894. PresidentPaul! says:

      “He doesn’t know what he’s talking about when he’s talking,” Rogan said. “He doesn’t look good, either. And they got makeup on him. His skin is all pulled tight like a lizard.”

      That’s because he’s dead Joe!

    895. Scooterboy says:

      938. Lol

    896. mRviTO says:

      “Bring better game next time.”

      Hold the cock and poulet… and no more bull.

    897. mRviTO says:

      Hopefully the kiddos have all gone to bed.

    898. Cash Cow TM says:

      Mr. Vito,

      I got it.

      An old barnyard joke… 🙂

    899. lisab says:

      so i looked at the financial statements on marketwatch for

      united, american and delta airlines

      and in the last five years they have invested heavily in assets

      and except for delta, paid for it by borrowing

      delta, invested their profits into assets, and kept debt level. delta actually invested the least in assets.

      sooooooooo … they invested heavily in new planes

      they did NOT just borrow and buy back stock.

      they bought assets.

    900. lisab says:

      as for buying back stock …

      that is completely fine.

      you understand that when a company sells stock, investors pay money that is then invested in assets


      sometimes they cash investors out

      in this case the three major airlines actually bought new equipment

    901. lisab says:

      adjectives, absolutely have to be in this order: opinion-size-age-shape-colour-origin-material-purpose

      so you can have

      “a lovely little old rectangular green french silver whittling knife.”

      but not

      “a whittling silver French green rectangular old little lovely knife”

    902. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Whoever said one person cannot change the world never ate an undercooked bat.”

    903. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “The truth is, it’s not boring at home. But its interesting how one bag of rice has 7,456 grains, and another 7,489”

    904. Phil says:


      Bored silly. Just laying around. My dog is thinking “welcome to my world”.

    905. MichiganGuy says:

      Brooks Brothers to commence manufacturing
      up to 150,000 surgical masks per day
      at its own U.S. factories.

    906. jason says:

      Damn really weak game here today yall.”

      Proud Obamacommunist is upset the stock market is not doing worse and more people are not dying.

      He is looking for a more “exciting” day.

    907. jason says:

      Brooks Bro has a US factory?

      Who knew?

    908. jason says:

      Why nobody with half a brain trusts the MSM.

      “On Jan. 29, Farhad Manjoo published a column in the New York Times with the headline “Beware the Pandemic Panic.” Manjoo downplayed the danger of the virus and instead cautioned, “What worries me more than the new disease is that fear of a vague and terrifying new illness might spiral into panic, and that it might be used to justify unnecessarily severe limits on movement and on civil liberties, especially of racial and religious minorities around the world.” One thing we can never expect from elite journalists is accountability. Rather than admitting his own errors, Manjoo simply pivoted to blaming Trump: “Coronavirus Is What You Get When You Ignore Science” was the headline on his March 4 column, in which he asserted that the president had “gut[ted] the United States’ pandemic-response infrastructure.”

    909. jason says:

      Amos Stoltzfuss seemed worried this morning. He said Gertrude, Brunhilde and Lotte were a little off on the milking, could it be something to do with the English Virus.

      I said no, maybe the change in weather?

      He considered that for a moment, then nodded.

    910. jason says:

      AOC worried some people are still employed.

      “One of the best ways to thank essential workers is to support the fight to improve their lives.

      Instacart & Amazon workers are on strike for:
      – Safer working conditions
      – Paid leave 4all
      – Hazard pay

      You can help. Skip your order today..

    911. Florida Guy says:


      Oh, grow up. Accept the fact Obama had the weakest economic recovery since WWII. He was a weak leader.


    912. Proud Obamacon says:


    913. Proud Obamacon says:

      LisB, here’s some real data:
      “As a group, the six airlines spent 96% of their free cash flow on stock buybacks over the past 10 full years through 2019.

      Boeing’s free cash flow for 10 years totaled $58.37 billion, while the company spent $43.44 billion, or 74% of free cash flow, on stock repurchases.”


      How about that, spending 96% of your free cash flow on buy backs.

      Nothing wrong with buy backs, but not 96% of your free cash flow. Pure Greed and incompetence. And now they get Billions more of OUR TAX MONEY! MAGA!! Lol

    914. jason says:


    915. jason says:

      “And now they get Billions more of OUR TAX MONEY! ”

      Blood sucking parasite who never paid taxes in his life talking about “our tax money”.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

      I am surprised Roadkill Maggot is here.. are the Dow futures down?

    916. jason says:

      When a Marxist Leninist starts talking about “our tax money” we really have reached a new level of surrealism.

    917. Proud Obamacon says:

      When Jason has no response, he posts his made up lies as usual. yawn.

    918. Proud Obamacon says:

      Good to know that Jason approves of his tax money going right into the pockets of incompetent execs and to bail out Trump Properties! Hey, maybe he can even help bring back Trump University! LOL

    919. jason says:

      Ahhh, market down 89 points.

      No wonder Roadkill Maggot is here to celebrate.

      Maybe we will see him later if some state reports a higher death toll than yesterday.

    920. jason says:

      I am glad you brought that up.

      Excluding Trump properties from any benefits that similar properties get was a cheap political stunt that I am sorry spineless Rs went along with.

      But hey, if Trump Properties layoff any employees due to the same lack of business affecting other hotel properties, OMG, the Marxist Leninist and the MSM will be on it like flies on horsecrap, oh the inhumanity.

    921. jason says:

      See, because Trump’s properties belong to the Trump family, their employees should not benefit from any bailouts or incentives.

      That is how these scumbags think.

    922. jason says:

      The Dems want Trump property employees to be laid off without benefits, presumably because, horrors, they work for a company owned by the Trump family.

    923. Proud Obamacon says:

      Loosah please, Trump properties was going to lay off employees and pocketing bailout money . Money should be going to the laid off employees directly. But Jason would rather send it to the greedy execs who are going to pocket it and lay off employees anyway. Jason is not bright.

      Well I gotta get to work, might check back in later. Thanks for the early morning entertainment! LOL

    924. Nancy Phucking Pelosi says:


      Translation: Roadkill Maggot is going to cash in more food stamps to leach off the government

    925. jason says:

      Money should be going to the laid off employees directly.”


      Money needs to go to the companies that employ people so their jobs are secure long term. You reward companies that will keep paying their employees through the crisis, that way both the companies and the employees survive it.

      Give a few handouts to employees so they can stay afloat a month or two is a very short term (30 /60 day) solution.

      I know. Keeping companies viable is a capitalist thing, we don’t want that.

      We want the communist solution, everyone employed by the state.

    926. SoHope says:

      96% of free cash flow went to stock buybacks…you mean 96% of profits after subtracting investments in working capital and capital expenditures….you know like buying new planes giving raises taking on new routes ect

    927. jason says:

      Translation: Roadkill Maggot is going to cash in more food stamps to leach off the government”


      Since he doesn’t work, he could care less about jobs.

      All he wants is a government check paid with other people’s money directly to him.

    928. jason says:

      Loosah please, Trump properties was going to lay off employees”

      Maybe Roadkill Maggot will invest in remedial English classes with his check…


    929. SoHope says:

      NC has $350 max minimum wage. The feds are adding $600 on top of that. Small businesses employong entry level workers like me cant compete with $950 to do nothing. High unemployment benefits like that will kill the engine of our economy during a recovery. My ex did 99 weeks on unemployment in 2008.

    930. Phil says:

      If Democrats can’t get Joe to.quit (it’s the only mechanism they have to replace him) they know they are going to need a lot of help.to get Biden over the finish line. That’s an understatement. Look for them to launch a Hail Mary investigation in the House this summer accusing Trump of acting “too little and too late” on the virus. They are snakes. It will be the grounds for another eventual impeachment inquiry.

      I still think Biden is “convinced” to bow out. They will probably launch the investigation anyway. It will be along the lines of “media questions” ala the Russian hoax with the usual subjects – Washington Post, NYT, CNN etc using the usual daily anonymous sources. We all know the drill. The media will go full throttle. Actual formal impeachment won’t be formalized until next year.

      I know, I know….it’s a bridge too far you say. It’s a bridge too far to actually work but not one to prevent these insane with Trump hate crazies to try. A perfect mechanism to harass Trump next term.

      Personally, I think it will backfire.

    931. jason says:

      After Complaints, Trump’s DHS Says Gun Stores Are ‘Essential’ Businesses.’

    932. Country Dick Montana says:

      Steven Moore’s article at Rasmussen compares some of the stimulus package and other policies that Federal, Local and State governments are doing during the pandemic and comparing them to “Atlas Shrugged.” Without agreeing or disagreeing with what he states he did mention something interesting. The 2 Trillion stimulus is about equal to the total individual and corporate income taxes for a year. I suppose the problem is that businesses and many people aren’t producing any income to tax.

    933. DW says:

      “I still think Biden is ‘convinced’ to bow out”

      If this happens then look for the Dems to reverse course from hiding Joe, to over-exposing him.

      Suddenly he will appear everywhere and the Dem establishment will allow nature to take its course, so that everyone will see clearly that he is not up to the task.

      Then Biden will drop badly in the polls, and it will be this drop that they use when they pull Joe aside and say, ‘Look, Joe, you have served your party well, you have been a faithful foot-soldier, senator, vice-president, and the final thing you helped us with is stopping Bernie. We need you now to go out and announce your withdrawal from the race due to medical concerns.’

      In reply, Biden will say, “What was the question again?”

      But they have to wait to launch this plan, because if they did it now, Bernie would demand to be the nominee. They have to wait until Bernie drops out, so this could be all the way to the convention. If Bernie was smart, he would suspend his campaign, not drop out entirely. This would force the dems to wait until after the convention they they are past the nuisance of delegates and they could then do whatever they want…and introduce Cuomo as their nominee after Joe bows out.

    934. Big Joe says:

      #913, Proud O.-

      “You right about that. This is a textbook sucker’s rally. I’ll nibble at 18,000 as I been saying.”

      Careful, Proud. We are in what looks like a “Bull Trap,” but you won’t really know until the next month or two plays out. The current chart also looks somewhat like Dec 2018 so there’s that too. At that time, a “Bull Trap” looked to be forming except we just kept going higher and higher.

      I think Dec 2018 may not be a good match for today’s charts because volatility was much lower in Dec 2018, but again it’s just one data point.

      Jobs numbers come out Friday. Earnings start flowing in. We will get some hard data very soon which will tell us how well the market priced in bad news. The news will be bad, but if it’s better than expected, markets will rally.

      Big Joe

    935. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Fredo Cuomo test positive for COVID

    936. jason says:


      “A 108-year-old British woman who survived the 1918 Spanish Flu succumbed to the coronavirus, according to a report.

      Hilda Churchill died in a Salford nursing home on Saturday, hours after testing positive for COVID-19 — and just eight days before her 109th birthday, The Guardian reported”

    937. Phil says:

      Fredo positive?

      Guess he will be sidelined while in quarantine. How will we go on for the next two weeks without such a pillar of journalism. Guess Don Lemon will have to pull double duty.

    938. Cash Cow TM says:

      News in Numbers
      The number of newly designed ventilators that the vacuum company, Dyson, has promised to the U.K. National Health Service. “This new device can be manufactured quickly, efficiently and at volume.”
      March 28, 2020

      53 million
      The number of U.S. students that are affected by school closures during the COVID-19 outbreak. To slow the spread of the virus, 118,000 schools in the U.S. have closed.

    939. Phil says:

      I would like to see some numbers on ventilators as to a timeline for actual manufacturing….as in exactly when we can expect them to start rolling off the assembly lines. Lots of talk about which company is promising to manufacture but zero, and I mean zero, information on any timeline. The infection numbers are looking very rough today and it’s going to be a very rough wk or two as the infections increase daily. This means the crunch is going to really hit in ten or 12 days. Will we actually have any rolling out by then?

    940. Tina says:

      Breaking all fisa applications were poorly done and riddled with errors


    941. Tina says:

      Catherine Herridge
      #FISA BREAKING: IG Horowitz on FBI FISA applications and supporting docs, so-called Woods File “As a result of our audit work to date…we do not have confidence that the FBI has executed its Woods Procedures in compliance with FBI policy.”

    942. Tina says:

      To minimize errors, Joe is doing a podcast so he can delete his errors. However, the podcasts are 6 days old.

    943. Tina says:

      Comedy and McCabe told us that everything done on a fisa warrant was above board.

      More lies from two psychopaths.

    944. jason says:

      Italy new case numbers down to 4053 today, 10th day below peak.

    945. jason says:

      PA numbers stable for the 4th days in a row, between 600-750 new cases a day.

      Wolf will say something inane before the day is out, and add one or 2 more counties to his blacklist of counties where you basically can do anything you can do in the non-blacklisted counties.

    946. Phil says:

      Good news. Spain numbers indicate the same. Good news because we are in for some rough numbers over the next 10 days here.

    947. Country Dick Montana says:

      Wolf is the only Governor that is NOT allowing construction, even though it is on the federal essential list. Lot’s of union workers do not like this.

    948. dblaikie says:

      I am no scientist so I am not an expert but just plain logic in looking at the numbers if this virus is going to reach its apex in two weeks — it seems their projection on 100000 to 200000 for this virus seems way off.

      Hopefully this isn’t true. But have our top folks on this task force succumbed to media politically correct models? We will see what the numbers bring this next seven days.

    949. NYCmike says:


    950. NYCmike says:


    951. NYCmike says:

      9-9-9 ! !

    952. jason says:

      Depends. If we are really 10-12 days behind Italy on the curve we may see the new case numbers flatten out in the areas first hit soon. That may be happening in WA already. Yesterday WA had 354 new cases and 10 deaths.

      Because it is a much bigger country, the new cases will be “rolling”, subsiding in some areas and growing in others, in essence we may have several “Italys”.

      In any event it is likely that NY/NJ will be the most serious “.Italy”

    953. dblaikie says:

      Any number is rough! But I can’t help but notice that I have been hearing that same line — we are in for tough numbers — and yet the numbers though tragic and growing seem to be leveling off.

      Going back to the beginning of this the purpose was to flatten the curve so we could avoid being like Italy. Well today Italy has had 106000 tested cases and we have had 176000 tested cases. So far our fatalities have 3431 while Italy has had 12428. Like I say I am not an expert. But so far I think we have been successful. It would be nice for someone who is an expert to say that.

    954. jason says:

      Darn, I almost succeeded in snatching the M from NYC by accident.

    955. jason says:

      Wolf is just a useless turd. I notice Trump never mentions him.

    956. Country Dick Montana says:

      1002 – Perspective based on deaths per million under the Italy model the US would have 61820 deaths. Per Spain it would be 57760. China would be 775 (like we really believe China). Iran would be 11463. France would be 14818. UK – 8899. Netherlands – 18950. Belgium – 20126 and Germany would be 2698.

      In other words our 3400 deaths compared to the rest of the civilized world is not that bad. Take out NYC and we are below where would be under the German model.

    957. dblaikie says:

      I also wish an expert would come out and say that warm, humid weather effects this virus. Look at India, Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia, the Philippines, and even Los Angeles. So far they have had 2474 cases in Los Angeles County and 44 fatalities. Like NYC, LA is a huge port and an international hub with a huge population. And then there is San Diego County, once again millions of people, where there are 603 total cases and only 7 fatalities.

    958. jason says:

      dblaikie, we can’t compare absolute fatality numbers with Italy because we are at different points in the curve.

      That should not be the success criteria, because unfortunately we will eventually pass Italy in the absolute number of fatalities, especially since we have 6.5 times the population.

      But the mortality rate will remain way under Italy and that certainly is a fair comparison.

    959. NYCmike says:

      All reports I hear on the radio is that NYC will continue to be the hotspot, as for some reason, people are still packing themselves on trains!!


    960. jason says:

      Take out NYC”

      Nahh, somebody has to be Chuck Schumer’s b-tch.

    961. jason says:

      as for some reason, people are still packing themselves on trains!”

      Well, people have to get to essential work and there is no other alternative is there?

    962. NYCmike says:

      “Like NYC, LA is a huge port and an international hub with a huge population. And then there is San Diego County, once again millions of people, where there are 603 total cases and only 7 fatalities.”

      -NYC is pretty unique in its small land area compared to those 2 locales. My prior comment about the subway, which LA and San Diego don’t have, all the more reason why the numbers are higher.

    963. Country Dick Montana says:

      1007 – That is what I was trying to pint out above. Apples to apples is deaths/million. If the US had Italy’s death rate we would have 62,000 not 3400. On an absolute basis we will probably pass everyone “officially,” as I don’t believe China’s numbers. Our rates are pretty transparent.

    964. Phil says:

      Take Houston for example. We don’t use subways. We have some limited light rail in downtown Houston but we commute mainly by car. Some limited busing from suburbs.

      Totally different from NYC. Makes a huge difference.

    965. Big E says:

      Phil. Nobody in Houston right now. My 1 hour 15 min commute from The Woodlands is now 35-40 minutes. Everyone is driving 70 mph through downtown. It is very strange.

    966. Phil says:

      BTW, it would be helpful for Trump to get into the weeds this afternoon in his news conference. Enough of the vague comments from company CEOs. If companies are helping name them and give specifics as to what and when they will contribute. No more Pillow guy speeches. Turn most everything in the news conference over to Pence and both doctors and let’s hear some specifics – particularly, projections on cases expected, when specifically we can see ventilators rolling off the supply lines and how that matches up with the apex of the virus. Also some indications as to what we have or have not leaned so far about the various drugs in the NY trials or at least some indication as to when we will hear something.

      I wasn’t impressed with anything we got yesterday. That isn’t going to cut it. Also, a little less bragging about what a great job we’re doing. Humility might be beyond Trump’s capability but a little is called for now.

    967. Phil says:

      Dr Birx indicated they would be back with charts and graphs today regarding stats. That would be a step in the right direction.

    968. Wes says:

      jason says:
      March 31, 2020 at 1:43 pm
      Take out NYC”

      Nahh, somebody has to be Chuck Schumer’s b-tch.

      Well, Mikey has been happy to fill that role for the last decade, Jason.

    969. dblaikie says:

      NYC I grant you the points you have made. The New York City is more crammed than LA and the mass transit is a breeding pit for the virus. But my question is does warm and humid weather affect the spread of the virus? In my looking at the cases around the world, including LA, I think it does. The only possible exception to this is New Orleans. But despite that one example, around the world, the warmer, more tropical places don’t seem to have the vast spread of other places.

    970. Big Joe says:

      Hey, anyone know when today’s press conference is? I haven’t watched any yet but think I should.

      Big Joe

    971. dblaikie says:

      Jason your point, which I agree with, still under girds my argument. If the hope of this time in shelter was to keep us from being like Italy, than so far we have been successful. In fact mortality rate is a much better barometer of that.

    972. Big E says:

      The weather differences may be real. We are seeing more reports from Australia and South America of an increase in cases. Since they are in southern hemisphere they would be starting the fall season. Something to watch.

    973. Phil says:

      Pressers usuall start around 4 central I think

    974. Phil says:


      Presser at 4 central

    975. Big Joe says:

      Thanks, Phil.

    976. Tina says:

      The pressers are at 5 pm est.

      Sometimes they are delayed.

      The media is playing gotcha, trying to blame trump for the virus.

      The companies mentioned yesterday all gave specifics on how they are helping. This includes the my pillow guy, Hanes, and united tech. They also showed the new abbot 5 min test, which is now “obsolete” since a company has a 2 minute test.

      I only listen to these pressers and ignore all media questions, including the hack for Faux News.

    977. Big Joe says:

      Thank you, Tina 🙂

      Big Joe

    978. Tina says:

      The political prestitures should no longer be asking the questions.

      The business and health reporters should be asking the questions,

    979. jason says:

      Hey, anyone know when today’s press conference is? I haven’t watched any yet but think I should.

      Big Joe”

      Are you sure you want to take the chance Big Joe?

      I know you are a Dem who thinks for himself, but the MSM is worried you might be corrupted and turn into a MAGA zombie as a result.

      You might want to watch it on CNN or MSNBC because they will cut out of anything they think might be particularly harmful to you, like yesterday when they cut somebody off for mentioning God.

    980. lisab says:


      we have been through this before, although you seem to not want to hear it.

      stock companies are not allowed to sit on large piles of cash, although some tech companies have been able to argue that they need the cash for investments, old line companies cannot do this.

      why? it is called suppression of dividends, and in the past has been used to entrench the executives, but their fiduciary duty is to give profits to the stockholders.

      that is, as a regular person i can put cash into a checking account just as easily as Delta, so if they are not going to invest the money into new business, they need to give it back to me the investor, (or pay off debt).

      Total Assets = Total Liabilities plus Owners’ Equity

      that is, assets either come from the stockholders or bondholders.

      in United’s case they increased total assets from a mix of liabilities and equity. that is, they did buy back stock, but not with all their profits, owners’ equity went up by billions over the last five years.

      Delta was worse for the stockholders, they increased assets, but not debt. that is, they used the stockholders’ money to buy new equipment, by about 4 billion dollars. if i was an investor i would have wanted some of that money.

      only american has been questionable. they basically lost all their owners’ equity, they have $60 billion in assets and $60 billion in debt. their executives will be looking for new jobs i imagine.

      but the idea that companies should build up huge cash reserves is ludicrous. that cash is the stockholders’ (or bondholders’) money. if the company cannot invest it, they are required to give it back in the form of dividends or stock buybacks.

    981. lisab says:

      the short answer:

      stock companies’ duty is to give profits to the investors

      not sit on large cash reserves.

    982. Tina says:

      I don’t see how the Flynn charges stand up, especially with the missing 302 (tampered) and the fact that Van Hack had a conflict of interest since he was charging Flynn, while also investigated the leak.

      Chad Pergram
      · 25m
      Grassley on FISA: Not a single application from the past 5 yrs reviewed by the IG was up to snuff. That’s alarming..The IG’s decision to bring these failures to the director’s attention before its audit is even completed underscores the seriousness of these findings

    983. Phil says:

      Only 70 new cases in China and 5 new deaths. Terrific job by the Chicons. Tremendous job by that nation.

    984. Tina says:

      Trump War Room – Text TRUMP to 88022
      On March 22, the Trump Administration announced it was partnering with IBM to deploy the power of supercomputers to fight the #coronavirus.

      On March 27, Joe Biden called for using supercomputers and implied the Trump Administration wasn’t doing so.

      Try to keep up, Sleepy Joe!

    985. lisab says:

      it is very difficult to explain owners’ equity to democrats

      lisab: sooooooo … we made a billion dollars profit this year, yay!!!!

      democrat: so that all goes to the green new deal right?

      lisab: ummmmmm … no …

      democrat: well to general taxes then … new government bureaucrats, government pensions etc.

      lisab: ummmmmm … no …

      democrat: right … right … some goes to taxes and the rest goes to the employees …

      lisab: ummmmmm … no … we pay the employees salaries and benefits and we pay taxes … but the left over money goes to the stockholders

      democrat: fascist!!!!!

    986. Tina says:


      Matt Wolking (Text TRUMP to 88022)
      Joe Biden was supposed to be on CNN 15 minutes ago.

      There’s no sign of him.

      Caught sleeping again?

      #whereisjoe #whereisbiden

    987. Phil says:

      Ah, the Clintons knocked off another one. Guess Joe wouldn’t go quietly.

    988. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Did they give up on Joe’s daily virus pressers? I need my daily cringe fix and PO’s D-level trolling aren’t enough

    989. Tina says:

      They gave up on them to do a podcast.

      It takes them six days to release the podcast

      But they can edit out the gaffes, touching of face, lost thought, etc.

    990. jason says:

      lisab you really want to argue with a diehard communist?

      It would be like trying to explain hydroponics to a tiger.

    991. Tina says:

      China Biden must have been asleep.

      Private companies are producing those items. Hanes mentioned it yesterday.

      My pillow will do 1.5 million masks

      GM also will do the same.

      Matt Whitlock
      Biden on CNN attacks Trump for not using the Defense Production Act on PPE —

      “What about the gowns? The face shields? The masks?”

      Gotta wonder if he watched yesterdays event where companies announced they were stepping in to make those three things specifically.

    992. jason says:

      This MIT guy says the curve is already flattening in NY.

      I opened the article, it is not easy reading, but the graphs are clear enough.


    993. Big Joe says:

      #1030 Jason-

      “I know you are a Dem who thinks for himself, but the MSM is worried you might be corrupted and turn into a MAGA zombie as a result.”

      No chance of that happening, sorry. I don’t have TV service so will try to find a stream online. I’d like to hear from the experts and want specific numbers, trends, and forecasts. There is no room for politics here even if it’s instigated by the reporters. President needs to rise above all that and be the Comforter-in-Chief.

      I did catch parts of one of the first pressers led by VP Pence. I was very impressed. He did a great job of leading humbly while deferring as much as necessary to the experts. I can do without the random “Thanks to the great leadership of Pres. Trump …” though I think that phrase was meant for an audience of one only.

      Big Joe

    994. jason says:

      Obama Takes a Cheap Shot; ‘We’ve Seen All Too Terribly the Consequences of Those Who Denied’ Pandemic Warning”

      Yeah, not nice to talk about DeBlasio that way.

    995. Tina says:

      5:15 est start time.

      I have my Doritos ready.

    996. NYCmike says:

      ““Thanks to the great leadership of Pres. Trump …” though I think that phrase was meant for an audience of one only.”

      -Heh….I tend to agree with this…..

    997. lisab says:

      It would be like trying to explain hydroponics to a tiger.
      it bugs me that so many people do not understand basic economics or basic information about what companies do.

      this is why we cannot have nice things in this country. they think themselves well educated with their poli sci, gender studies, art history degrees, etc., and $200,000 in student loans … and wonder why the government doesn’t just give them free everything … and also why only other people with expensive poli sci, gender studies and art history degrees take them seriously

    998. jason says:

      Thanks to the great leadership of Pres. Trump”

      I agree.

    999. jason says:

      Oh, noooo…..NYC had the same thought I did?

      I have to go wash my hand for the 10th time today lest I too become Chuck Schumer’s b-tch.

    1000. Big Joe says:

      On a lighter note, these past few weeks I’ve had the cleanest hands I’ve ever had in my life.

      Big Joe

    1001. Tina says:

      So, Andrew cuomo now indicates that people ain’t stealing mask and gloves.

      Yet, on 3/6, he launched an investigation into it.

    1002. jason says:

      I have my Doritos ready.”

      I am going with homemade habanero chicharrones (very hot fried pork rinds)and tequila shots since it is officially happy hour.

    1003. jason says:

      On a lighter note, these past few weeks I’ve had the cleanest hands I’ve ever had in my life.”

      Very good Big Joe, stay away from those left wing websites.

    1004. lisab says:

      remember when obamakare was going to let people who don’t work or pay taxes have the same premium upscale hlth koverage that middle class people paid a lot of money for

      but everyone’s costs were going to go DOWN …

      supply and demand people!

    1005. lisab says:

      looks like we will hit 700 dead today

    1006. jason says:

      Obamacare was essentially a Ponzi scheme.

      Keep dumbing down the quality, reducing the benefits, and raising the prices for the healthcare of the 85% of Americans that had good healthcare they liked in order to fund mediocre healthcare for everybody.

    1007. Big Joe says:

      Coronavirus Daily Briefing Live stream on Youtube:


      Big Joe

    1008. jason says:

      65% of the 632 deaths so far today are in 4 states.

    1009. jason says:

      Amazing.. CNN has a positive headline.

      Dr. Fauci:


    1010. jason says:

      I must be hallucinating.

    1011. lisab says:


      they mean that they think they can hurt trump with this

    1012. NYCmike says:

      “looks like we will hit 700 dead today”

      -What were previous totals?

    1013. Tina says:


      John Solomon
      About face on chloroquine. Nevada governor reverses decision, allows anti-malarial drugs for coronavirus inpatients

    1014. Wes says:

      It’s all right, Joe. Mikey has a monopoly on being Schumer’s bitch.

    1015. jason says:

      So Fauci thinks the tide is already turning, but it will be awhile before we see it.

      Good news.

    1016. jason says:

      So the 100k number is somewhat of a worst case scenario.

      It sounds to me like they really think it will not get to that.

    1017. jason says:

      Much better format than having Trump drone on for an hour and answer questions before Pence and the experts.

      Best presser to date.

      Big Joe lucked out.

    1018. Big Joe says:

      I’m watching, Jason. I’m very impressed with the subject mastery backed by data, and overall somber tone. Horrified by the numbers too. 100k-200k possible dead, horrible.

      Big Joe

    1019. jason says:

      The press WANTS more deaths.


    1020. George says:

      Why doesn’t somebody ask why NY’s numbers are so out of line with the rest of the US?

    1021. jason says:

      Horrified by the numbers too. 100k-200k possible dead, horrible.”


      But remember we will certainly have about 60k deaths to the flu in 2020.

    1022. Paul says:

      Why do you say that, Jason?

    1023. Paul says:

      1074: NY’s numbers really aren’t that high. They are fake numbers and crisis actors are being used to fill their ICUs. All in a lame effort to make Trump look bad.

    1024. Big Joe says:

      “But remember we will certainly have about 60k deaths to the flu in 2020.”

      Yeah, but at least there’s Tami flu and the flu vaccine, granted it’s not 100% effective but at least it’s something.

      I think all press questions have been professional and respectful.

      Big Joe

    1025. Big Joe says:

      Interesting. Remove the space between “Tami” and “flu” and your post won’t go through. 😀

      Big Joe

    1026. jason says:

      I am sure NYC is going to be onboard with 2 trillion worth of pork because Trump is proposing it in 3, 2, 1….

    1027. mRviTO says:

      “fake numbers and crisis actors”

      The ICUs are full of journalists?

    1028. jason says:

      Yeah, but at least there’s Tami flu and the flu vaccine, granted it’s not 100% effective but at least it’s something.”

      No, the 60 k is WITH tami flu and the vaccine.

      I think all press questions have been professional and respectful.”

      They have been just slobbering over themselves about 100k deaths, they just can’t accept when the experts say it might not come to that.

    1029. Big Joe says:


      I’m saying that Tami Flu and the flu vaccine are available for those that want them. Yes, 60K still die but surely you’re not suggesting those 60K were vaccinated and treated with Tami Flu?

      I know it’s anecdotal, but I personally know a lot of otherwise well educated people who absolutely refuse the flu vaccine.

      Big Joe

    1030. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Take any claim by the Chinese government about the impact of the coronavirus with a grain of salt. The best independent estimates are about 40,000 have died in Wuhan alone.

      This is what happens if you do disagree with the offical Chinese government propaganda.

      “Whistleblowing Wuhan doctor Ai Fen is currently incommunicado, believed detained after giving media interviews about her initial concerns over the coronavirus, according to an Australian media report.

      “Just two weeks ago the head of Emergency at Wuhan Central Hospital went public, saying authorities had stopped her and her colleagues from warning the world,” flagship investigative show 60 Minutes Australia reported on Sunday.

      “She has now disappeared, her whereabouts unknown,” the show reported, also tweeting photos of Ai.”


    1031. Tina says:

      The my numbers are out of line because they did the self mitigation too late.

      They were a week to 10 days.

      Dr. Bird or Fauci answered that.

    1032. Tina says:

      New York numbers*

      See the teeers by duh Blasio in early to mid March,

      Compare that to ca

    1033. Victrc says:

      Why, on such a somber day, is this reporter trying to pin the virus on the administration not acting earlier. FAuci put him in his place by sayin there was nothing there to mitigate, yet he still pushed his meme that Trump is to blame for not acting as soon as China and S Korea, well, they had the disease way before us and in teh case of Korea, it was centrally located and the people there listen to the govt and when you say stay inside, they stay inside period.

    1034. jason says:

      Yes, 60K still die but surely you’re not suggesting those 60K were vaccinated and treated with Tami Flu?”

      Most of them.

      You know the vaccine is not very effective, right?

      “According to data from the U.S. Influenza Vaccine Effectiveness Network on 4,112 children and adults with acute respiratory illness during October 23, 2019–January 25, 2020, the overall estimated effectiveness of seasonal influenza vaccine for preventing medically attended, laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infection was 45%.”

    1035. jason says:

      MSM loves the 100-200k number and they will refuse to report the 800-lb gorilla.

      Dr. Fauci: “I think we can do a lot better than that”.

    1036. jason says:

      I know it’s anecdotal, but I personally know a lot of otherwise well educated people who absolutely refuse the flu vaccine.”

      I never got it until last year because I was going to working with a person with low immunity and wanted to reduce the risk of contaminating him.

      But not for any conspiracy theory reason, my doctor does not think its very effective so he doesn’t pressure his patients to get it. Most don’t.

    1037. jason says:

      “Going to working”


    1038. Tina says:

      Steve Guest
      , Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci just gave the most thorough 2 hour 12 minute briefing on any subject in the history of White House press briefings.

      America is blessed to have this great team fighting for us right now.

    1039. dblaikie says:

      My understanding of the briefing was that if we can avoid the replication of the NY and NJ lines in the graph we will be successful. Only time will tell what the final fatality rate will be.

      The most important part of the briefing was from Pence, “Now you have seen what the President has seen.” We needed that information.

    1040. Pitchaboy says:

      If we had done nothing: 2 million
      If all states are as stupid as N.Y.: 240000
      If the rest of us use some brains: far less than 80000

      How low we go depends on how well we mitigate.

    1041. Pitchaboy says:

      Preliminary info from Europe suggests 3 silent infections for each documented one. Mortality appears to be 0.6 pct. 6 times worse than seasonal flu.

    1042. Big Joe says:

      #1088 Jason-
      Yes, very much aware that the flu vaccine is only somewhat protective and that the effectiveness varies season to season. Hopefully a future coronavirus vaccine will be more effective.

      Big Joe

    1043. Tina says:

      Fauci, knocks down a Drat hoax: “We started very early”.

      Birx: “Based on China’s Numbers, we thought we were seeing another SARS.”

    1044. Tina says:

      Mi governor, Dim Whit, allows for the anti malaria drug.

    1045. Pitchaboy says:

      Big difference between the two vaccines. Seasonal flu vaccines are decided upon using surveillance studies and predicting the dominant strains. The 2020 viral strains will be picked in February 2020(already done). Sometimes they pick the wrong strain or a new one emerges in early spring and makes the vaccine not very effective
      COVID is a unique strain of Coronavirus family and effectiveness or not will depend on factors like dose and antigenicity. This is why they run pilot trails in September.

    1046. Big Joe says:

      #1093 dbiase-

      Yes it sounded like the projections were at least somewhat based on the recent trends in NY/NJ/CT. So there’s an assumption that future outbreaks will follow those trends.

      There’s also an assumption that the entire country will be abiding by the mitigation strategy (staying at home, social distancing, etc).

      Neither assumption is a safe bet at all.

      I want to see how the next 3-5 days unfold so we can see if the data supports their projections. 100k-200k sounds like a lot but who knows.

      It’s March 31 and currently approx 3,000 dead. projections for April 30 are approx 60,000 dead (cumulative). That seems outrageous but the model says what it says.

      Big Joe

    1047. Pitchaboy says:

      We are running a mortality of 12/1million population now. To get 60000 dead, we have to get to 200/million. In short, Italy. Don’t see it happening. If it does, DJT is toasr

    1048. Tina says:

      I think dr. Birx said that they modeled after Italy.

      My internet was not working well so I missed parts. I will try to listen to the 2 hour presser again.

    1049. Country Dick Montana says:

      1102 – Exactly Pitch. I posted this earlier this morning:

      1002 – Perspective based on deaths per million under the Italy model the US would have 61820 deaths. Per Spain it would be 57760. China would be 775 (like we really believe China). Iran would be 11463. France would be 14818. UK – 8899. Netherlands – 18950. Belgium – 20126 and Germany would be 2698.

    1050. Pitchaboy says:

      We would have tracked closer to Germany, but for one terrible decision. Keeping schools and bars and residents in NYC until 3/20. This put NY/NJ on a very steep curve. There is irrefutable data on this now and their Mayor needs to resign.

    1051. Pitchaboy says:

      Bars and restaurants, not residents.

    1052. Country Dick Montana says:

      We had about a 21% bump in cases today after running 4 straight days of low single digit percentage increases. Wonder if this is a function of actual new cases or more comprehensive testing.

    1053. Pitchaboy says:

      1. More testing
      2. Disturbing trend I’m Miami and Detroit.

    1054. Country Dick Montana says:

      Detroit is getting worse. 79 in the city and over 200 in the 3 county metro area.

    1055. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      This is going to get much worse before it gets better, and a six figure death toll is not out of the question. Trump is right that the next two weeks will be painful.

    1056. lisab says:

      if the death rate keeps going up at the current rate

      roughly 20,000 total dead after one more week

      if it continues like this for two weeks, there will be roughly 125,000 dead

    1057. Big Joe says:

      I just downloaded the Covid-19 data (actuals and projection). I’ll try posting something but I have a feeling it’s going to be ugly.

      Big Joe

    1058. Big Joe says:

      date deaths_mean totdea_mean
      2/6/2020 0 0
      2/7/2020 0 0
      2/8/2020 0 0
      2/9/2020 0 0
      2/10/2020 0 0
      2/11/2020 0 0
      2/12/2020 0 0
      2/13/2020 0 0
      2/14/2020 0 0
      2/15/2020 0 0
      2/16/2020 0 0
      2/17/2020 0 0
      2/18/2020 0 0
      2/19/2020 0 0
      2/20/2020 0 0
      2/21/2020 0 0
      2/22/2020 0 0
      2/23/2020 0 0
      2/24/2020 0 0
      2/25/2020 0 0
      2/26/2020 2 2
      2/27/2020 1 3
      2/28/2020 2 5
      2/29/2020 1 6

    1059. Country Dick Montana says:

      1113 – Would it be easier to give us a link?

    1060. Big Joe says:

      There’s a massive spreadsheet here with very raw data:

      I’m going to extract pertinent info and post that here. Anyone with advanced Excel skills or experience with statistical analysis programming (R or Python / Pandas data science) could have a lot of fun with this data.

      Big Joe

    1061. Bitterlaw says:

      I never get the flu vaccine. My doctor said the risk of getting the flu is worse from the vaccine for me as a diabetic. I am not sure if I ever had the flu.

    1062. Bitterlaw says:

      I am getting very worn down by working from home. I know. everybody feels the same. Except Walt. Poor bastard. Mrs. Walt declared him an essential employee. He gets no break.

    1063. Big Joe says:

      Source: https://covid19.healthdata.org/

      This is the model referenced by Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci during today’s briefing.

      The 3/30 data represents actual data through that date.
      The 3/31 – 4/30 data are projections.

      The model is predicting that deaths will peak on 4/15 at 2,214 deaths on that date (29,098 cumulative).
      The model is predicting 83,967 total deaths with the last deaths occurring on 7/15.

      My first observation is that their own model is projecting 84,000 deaths, however they referenced a window of 100,000 – 240,000 deaths as a best case scenario today.

      I’m only posting 3/30 – 4/30 to keep Dave from banning me. Spreadsheet contains data through 8/6.

      date deaths_day deaths_cumulative
      3/30/2020 518 2991
      3/31/2020 718.996 3709.996
      4/1/2020 831.757 4541.753
      4/2/2020 967.513 5509.266
      4/3/2020 1109.172 6618.438
      4/4/2020 1254.869 7873.307
      4/5/2020 1400.881 9274.188
      4/6/2020 1545.286 10819.474
      4/7/2020 1682.459 12501.933
      4/8/2020 1810.284 14312.217
      4/9/2020 1921.069 16233.286
      4/10/2020 2015.033 18248.319
      4/11/2020 2091.833 20340.152
      4/12/2020 2148.442 22488.594
      4/13/2020 2186.972 24675.566
      4/14/2020 2208.403 26883.969
      4/15/2020 2214.376 29098.345
      4/16/2020 2204.782 31303.127
      4/17/2020 2183.623 33486.75
      4/18/2020 2153.007 35639.757
      4/19/2020 2114.906 37754.663
      4/20/2020 2071.594 39826.257
      4/21/2020 2025.078 41851.335
      4/22/2020 1976.435 43827.77
      4/23/2020 1925.784 45753.554
      4/24/2020 1875.139 47628.693
      4/25/2020 1823.893 49452.586
      4/26/2020 1772.189 51224.775
      4/27/2020 1720.181 52944.956
      4/28/2020 1666.963 54611.919
      4/29/2020 1612.945 56224.864
      4/30/2020 1558.208 57783.072

      Big Joe

    1064. Big Joe says:

      Folks, I need to clarify that the model above is *one of the models* that Dr. Birx referenced. It’s note the *only* model.

      She referenced it as the “Chris Murray model.” She referenced a couple other models as well. So please let’s be clear that this is just one of several models being used.

      Big Joe

    1065. Proud Obamacon says:

      Complete BS number. It’s already happening. Yall hear how King Orange said he saved the country from 2.2 million deaths with the great job that he’s doing?

      Now it’s gonna be how he saved the country from hundreds of thousands of deaths.

      Once again, setting expectations low so he can later say how great he is. If 40,000 die, he’ll claim models predicted 240,000 and he single handedly saved 200,000 lives. It’s all a set up. Watch.


    1066. Paul says:

      I saw that as well. April 15 is the peak. But the down slope of the curve doesn’t come down as fast as the rise. With that the total numbers of deaths easily ends up in the 100,000 range.

    1067. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      There has been recent controversy over Gilead Sciences questionable attempt to obtain “orphan drug” status for its drug remdesivir, which is a reformulation of a now generic HIV drug named tenofovir. The broader question is why isn’t generic tenofovir being studied for use against coronavirus? Saw one study from the Mideast saying there had a benefit. It appears some individuals have benefited in California from using tenofovir. Testing and use of effective generic drugs could save the taxpayers billions of dollars.

    1068. Big Joe says:

      “With that the total numbers of deaths easily ends up in the 100,000 range.”

      That’s not true, Paul. Projection of total deaths is 83,967. This is shown in the graph as well as the downloadable raw data.

      It is true that the curve is less steep after the peak than before peak. It is also true that more deaths are predicted to occur after the peak than before. 29,028 before peak and 54,939 after peak.

      I realize I’m referencing very exact figures here. Of course, these are mean figures within confidence intervals.

      Big Joe

    1069. gameboy says:

      #1121 I don’t agree with any of the nonsense you spew on this website, but I do agree with your analysis of the expectations game. Indications are the real death toll in China is in the 40,000 – 50,000 range. It would be shocking if the toll in the USA was higher than where the thing originated, with less than a quarter of the population.

    1070. Cash Cow TM says:

      Hope all Hedgehoggers are being as safe as possible, and employing safe and sanitary procedures.

      So far, this household has been spared.

      Walt’s youngest son is still working every day at the warehouse facility loading and unloading trucks and helping to keep trucks moving.

      Mrs. Walt is still doing shopping for elderly couple, and we here are financially supporting various relief/help efforts locally.

      Walt and a hired hand yesterday dug out the rest of the shale and installed the ground level fish pond yesterday. (Walt had previously dug out the first four wheelbarrow loads..). He still has to run the electric line, secure pump etc.

      In the past two or three days the grocery stores and Lowes have installed plastic shields and only opening every other checkout line to help protect their checkout people. The local community is pulling together to combat the spread.

      About 18 people in this county have tested positive. Zero deaths thus far.

      Looks like we will have to deal with this for at least 30 more days. About a dozen states have moved their primary elections to June 2.

      Stay safe, peeps. Keeping you all in my prayers.

    1071. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Is important to remember we are trying to slow the spread of the virus; it cannot be stopped. At this point we don’t want the medical system overwhelmed. Newsweek had a good quote about herd immunity:

      “According to DeFelice, the virus that causes the disease appears to have a reproductive number of around 2.5, meaning every person who contracts the virus will pass it on to roughly 2.5 people. For the outbreak to peak, we need to bring that down to fewer than 1. Once 60 to 70 percent of the population has developed immunity to COVID-19, we will “begin to see” herd immunity, as people become less susceptible to infection and the outbreak dies down.


      Even with vaccines being constantly developed for different strains of the flu, we still have a large yearly death toll each year from the it — about 60,000 for this year.

    1072. Country Dick Montana says:

      Overnight adjustments to worldmeters resulted in 915 death yesterday for a total of 4053. NY has 1714 or 42% of the total. NYC has 1096 for 27% of the total.

      The top 5 states (NY,NJ,MI,LA and WA)have 67% of the deaths (2704)but only 15% of the population of the US.

      While CA has been impressive in its control of the virus news out of Los Angles is that cases are starting to spike. MI and NJ are the new problem areas.

    1073. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #1130- CDM
      Please add and I am sure it’s coincidental that the five States you name have Democrat Governors and Mayors in their largest cities.

    1074. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Here is a just-released Selzer Co. National Poll. The PID is D+8.
      The President’s approval/disapproval is 48/48 among Likely Voters.


    1075. Country Dick Montana says:

      1131 – Trying to keep politics out of it. There will be time for that later.

    1076. Big Joe says:

      #1130 Dick, yes numbers through 3/30 slightly adjusted and new numbers in for 3/31 which are worse than predicted.

      My quick analysis: 874 actual deaths vs 718 predicted deaths. Results in a total death projection change of approx +10,000. Total predicted deaths now approx 94,000 (Up from 84,000) yesterday.

      Here’s the update:

      Deaths today: 718.996
      Cumulative deaths: 3709.996

      Deaths today: 874
      Cumulative deaths: 3,867

      Updated forecast
      The model is predicting that deaths will peak on 4/16 at 2,607 deaths on that date (35,048 cumulative).
      The model is predicting 93,765 total deaths with the last deaths occurring on 7/15.

      Source: https://covid19.healthdata.org/

      Big Joe

    1077. Big Joe says:

      “1131 – Trying to keep politics out of it. There will be time for that later.”

      Agreed. More likely explanation is that the outbreaks are occurring in the more populated areas which ar also transportation hubs with diverse populations. Population congestion results in quicker spread.

      Big Joe

    1078. jason says:

      if the death rate keeps going up at the current rate

      roughly 20,000 total dead after one more week

      if it continues like this for two weeks, there will be roughly 125,000 dead”

      Nah, one day does not a trend make, just like we could not extrapolate from the 3 previous days when the death rate was essentially flat.

      For there to be 20k deaths in the next 7 days you would need almost 3k deaths a day average.

      If you look at the other countries, you don’t see that kind of a curve.

      Btw, Spain looks like it is flattening out too.


    1079. DW says:

      careful about one day trends. One day Sanders was a safe bet to be the nominee, and the next day it was Biden.

    1080. jason says:

      My quick analysis: 874 actual deaths vs 718 predicted deaths. Results in a total death projection change of approx +10,000. Total predicted deaths now approx 94,000 (Up from 84,000) yesterday.”

      874 actual deaths vs 718 predicted deaths.
      Based on one day.

      But if you had based your prediction on March 29 data, when the rate was a lot LESS than predicted, you probably have come up with 25,000 deaths.

      This is not the way it works.

    1081. Country Dick Montana says:

      1135 – Doesn’t explain NYC as opposed to CA and TX. In 1105 above Pitch (IIRC is a Doctor in NYC)probably has a better explanation. Don’t necessarily blame it on a Dem, but lay that $ht show at the feet of Mayor Warren Wilhelm.

    1082. jason says:

      careful about one day trends.”


      And remember, Fauci and Birx said several times that the 100k to 200k figure assumed a lot of other “New Yorks”.

      The said if a lot of other New Yorks did not happen, those numbers would be lower.

    1083. Country Dick Montana says:

      1138 – I have been tracking this for the last 3 weeks and trying all sorts of models (weird hobby for an old energy guy.) At this time tomorrow I am saying 215220 cases total (26691 new) and 5120 deaths (1067 new.) The cases may change as it seems that testing is accelerating, so we might expect verified cases to do so also.

    1084. Phil says:

      Again, my guess is that the difference between California and Texas is that in Texas no crowded subways.

    1085. Phil says:

      I meant the difference between NY and Texas. Sorry.

    1086. Big Joe says:

      Just reading the published data, Jason. 🙂
      I agree that the model seems to have had a wild reaction to yesterday’s data. I don’t believe the projection algorithm is publicly available so can’t tell how the model is set up.

      My observation is that the model does seem to accept the latest day’s data as truth. I would hope the model would be *smart* enough to wait for supporting data in future days before adjusting predictions. We’ll see how this goes …

      Big Joe

    1087. Country Dick Montana says:

      1142 – If that were the case wouldn’t we a;so be seeing mini NYC’s in Philly, Boston, Metro DC and Atlanta, all of which have significant public transit systems.

      One article that I read mentioned that in NYC it was disproportionally affecting poorer and non-English speaking neighborhoods.

    1088. Country Dick Montana says:

      So much for those “Greedy executives”


      The pay of Chief Executive Vicki Hollub, who championed the Anadarko acquisition and convinced Berkshire Hathaway Chairman Warren Buffett to invest $10 billion in the deal, will fall 81 per cent. Salaries of other top executives will be reduced by an average of 68 per cent, the memo said.

    1089. Phil says:

      Passed my usual gas station this morning. The sign said $1.68 a gallon. I would have filled up but I already have a full tank since like everyone else I haven’t been driving anywhere other than the grocery and drug stores. Streets were devoid of any traffic whatsoever.

    1090. Phil says:

      Looks like the UK is really taking a hit. Cases went up 25% yesterday. Hopefully that was just a one day statistical hiccup.

    1091. jason says:

      “Passed my usual gas….”

      I think Phil wants to be an A-hole.

    1092. jason says:

      My observation is that the model does seem to accept the latest day’s data as truth.”

      Birx and Fauci said that is the problem with models.

      It also accepted that other urban areas would be “New Yorks”, but we don’t really know if that is true.

    1093. jason says:

      The UK is behind the Germany, Italy and Spain curve.

      Btw, the Iran curve seems to be flattening out too. We may not be able to trust their reporting, but it is consistent from a timeline basis with other countries.


    1094. jason says:

      Germany’s numbers look really good today, but probably not complete yet.

      Let’s see what Italy reports around 1 PM. After 11 days below the peak number of cases, we should see the death rate start declining soon also.

    1095. Paul says:

      I see no reason that other areas won’t be “New Yorks” in a week or so. There are a lot of southern states, Florida and Texas who are still not taking this very seriously.

    1096. jason says:

      see no reason that other areas won’t be “New Yorks” in a week or so.”

      Translation: Paul is hoping there are more New Yorks.

      Despicable turd.

      But he might be disappointed. The other cities don’t have the same population density or the international travel influx NY had from Asia and Europe, so the pattern may not be the same.

    1097. Paul says:

      Jason (Chief Turd):
      Influx is meaningless at this point.

    1098. Country Dick Montana says:

      Texas has been shutdown since March 19. Florida has targeted specific areas and making all non-resident quarantine. I would say that they are taking it seriously.

    1099. jason says:

      What passes for journalism in NY:

      Cuomo’s perfectly weathered face.

      “Like a velveteen gravity blanket for my soul, the second I see this man’s perfectly weathered face and tousled curls, the moment his Pacino-like accent fills my living room with its mafia-like authority, my blood pressure drops, my breasts seem to perk up on their own, and a tingly feeling of optimism washes over my imprisoned body as I think to myself… I think we’re gonna be okay….”

    1100. Paul says:

      The despicable turds are those governors in red states who are choosing not to do “shelter in place”. They are creating the potential for deaths.

    1101. Paul says:

      Country Dick. You are wrong as usual.

    1102. Paul says:

      Country Dick,
      Neither Texas or Florida have statewide “Shelter in place” happening.

    1103. jason says:

      Influx is meaningless at this point.”


      Sure it does. NYC had a large influx in a short period of tie into a high density area. You are seeing the results today.

      If the spread in other areas with lower density is due to influx of cases on a much less concentrated level AND after social distancing was implemented, of course the results will be different.

      I know, for a despicable turd like you the more deaths the better. You really are a low life.

    1104. Paul says:

      Jason (despicable turd):
      Social distancing is not in place in many Red States. If the virus is already spread to several thousand in a state, influx is meaningless.

    1105. jason says:

      Shelter in place might not be necessary for all of Texas with wide expansions of rural areas. However, individual cities do have them as deemed necessary.
      In any event so far Texas, the second most populous state ranks 13th in the number of cases, so I am sure they are taking it “seriously”.

      “MARCH 31 10:21 p.m. — The Stay Home Work Safe order for Harris County has been extended through April 30 and Houston-area schools will be closed until at least May 4.

    1106. jason says:

      Social distancing is not in place in many Red States”


      Name ONE state where social distancing is not in place.

      This should be good.

    1107. jason says:

      f the virus is already spread to several thousand in a state, influx is meaningless.”

      The voice of ignorance….

      If that were the case they wouldn’t be recommending people leaving NYC to self quarantine for 2 weeks.

      Influx IS key.

      Are you really that stupid?

      Huh, no need to answer.

    1108. jason says:

      Maybe in Paul’s state of stupidity social distancing is not in place.

    1109. Phil says:


      Schools closed here a full two wks before NY closed theirs.

      Eating establishments closed to indoor dining two wks ago

      My dental appointment three wks ago was cancelled because my dentist closed his office.

      My gym closed over two wks ago.

      We redid our will 8 days ago. Had to correspond by computer as our attorney was not taking in office appointments.

      Enough of the “Texas isn’t taking this seriously”. You don’t know what you are talking about.

    1110. jason says:

      I am waiting for Paul’s list of red states where social distancing “is not in place”.

    1111. Phil says:

      Our air conditioner went out. The technician arrived Last Saturday wearing a mask and latex gloves.

      Yeah, it’s been taken seriously.

    1112. jason says:

      According to Paul turd, if 100k New Yorkers of which 25k are infected with coronavirus left NY and went to Florida, that would be “meaningless”.

      This would be news to everyone that doesn’t have an IQ less than 50.

    1113. Wes says:

      Social distancing—a term I’m rapidly becoming tired of hearing—is in place here in NC. I can’t speak for other states, but I do know NC has it.

    1114. jason says:

      Social distancing is not in place in many Red States.”

      Where is the list? We are all waiting for it.

    1115. jason says:

      Could it be Wyoming which is 49th in number of cases with ZERO deaths?


      “If Wyoming wants to limit the spread of coronavirus and “flatten the curve,” its residents must remain steadfast and continue to keep their distance from one another for at least several more weeks.

      “We’re looking at continuing social distance aggressively for the next six weeks or so,” said Dr. David Wheeler, a neurologist from Casper, at Gov. Mark Gordon’s press conference Monday afternoon.

      He said social distancing is especially important when the number of cases starts to decline, because if Wyoming starts to relax, the coronavirus could come back, and “all the hard work will be lost.”

    1116. Paul says:

      Jason (despicable turd):
      Mississippi (tops the list)
      Texas–no statewide order
      Florida–no statewide order
      Georgia–no statewide order
      Alabama–no statewide order
      Tennessee–no statewide order

      There are also many states with no orders in place at all out west which are more rural.

    1117. Country Dick Montana says:

      I try not to attack anyone here. Said earlier that I wanted to keep politics out of it for a while. Solicited input from another of our progressive leaning contributors.

      Somebody once said that Paul (and some others) had been outed as someone else. Is that true?

    1118. Paul says:

      Jason (despicable turd),

      You appear to not understand the difference between a strongly worded letter encouraging social distancing and legally enforcing social distancing.

    1119. Paul says:

      Country Dick,
      I didn’t insult you. I just said you were wrong. Which I have been proven correctly.

    1120. jason says:

      Jason (despicable turd):
      Mississippi (tops the list)
      Texas–no statewide order
      Florida–no statewide order
      Georgia–no statewide order
      Alabama–no statewide order
      Tennessee–no statewide order”


      We already know that is BS about TX.


      “NASHVILLE, Tenn. — The state of Tennessee has launched a campaign that urges all Tennesseans to adopt preventive health measures to slow the spread of coronavirus.

      “Do your part, stay apart” features Governor Bill Lee, First Lady Maria Lee and Tennessee celebrities, according to a press release.

      Dozens of music artists, athletes and sports organizations who collectively reach millions of Tennesseans will join the campaign via social media

      “COVID-19 is a serious threat to the health and livelihood of our state that must be treated seriously by Tennesseans so that we can slow the spread of this virus, keep our people healthy and get our lives back to normal as soon as possible,” Lee said. “Involving influential Tennesseans will help us reach more of our citizens to drive home the message that the only way to beat the virus is to stop it from spreading.”

      The participants have recorded messages from the safety of their homes to emphasize that Tennesseans should stay home as much as possible and avoid gathering with friends, at church or in any unessential activity.”

    1121. Country Dick Montana says:

      Shelter in place is pretty extreme. Shutting down of essential businesses and activities can go a long way to mitigating the problem. And those states are doing just that.

    1122. jason says:

      “Lee has closed bars and restaurants except for take-out and delivery. He also closed gyms, barred most visitors to nursing homes, and prohibited social gatherings of 10 people or more.”

    1123. Paul says:

      Jason (despicable turd):

      Texas has no statewide “Shelter in Place”

    1124. Paul says:

      Country Dick.
      “Shelter in place is pretty extreme.”

      Clearly Red States aren’t taking this seriously by statements like that.

    1125. jason says:

      EVERY state is following the federal guidelines on social distancing.

      Paul is a lying POS.


      “Social distancing violators at Georgia state parks and lakes could face citation, arrest”

    1126. Paul says:

      Jason (despicable turd):
      Why are those state parks remaining open in Georgia?

      Red States aren’t taking this seriously.

    1127. Paul says:

      I understand that even churches are staying open in some states.

    1128. Country Dick Montana says:

      The other thing is that in the US, “shelter in place” while being an order or a “strong suggestion” is pretty much dependent on the voluntary compliance by the citizens. While the most egregious offenders (60 person bonfire parties, 47 people in a 500 sf apartment for a “Corona Party”)might get a slap on the wrist, unlike China, we aren’t going to be thrown in jail or disappeared.

      I for one am proud of the people (not politicians) for trying to do the right thing, without coercion.

    1129. Paul says:

      Country Dick,
      People are foolish

    1130. jason says:

      PA has a Dem governor.

      Less than half of PA counties are under the “stay at home” order.

      But social distancing has been in place for weeks.

    1131. Paul says:

      Pennsylvania governor has dropped the ball. He should be removed.

    1132. Country Dick Montana says:

      Many are, I can agree with that. Still what we are being asked to do goes against who we are culturally. As Americans do in nearly all cases of disaster we are coming together for the good. Not because our government forces us to, but because it is the right thing to do.

      There will be plenty of time after this fades to go back to hating each other.

    1133. Country Dick Montana says:

      PA governor is the only one in all of the US that is not allowing construction projects. PA Senate and House are putting together legislation to force him to put our $40/hour union worker back on the job.

      Thank goodness the beer distributors are still open. Now if we could just find some toilet paper

    1134. jason says:

      So have we debunked ALL of Paul’s lies?

      Oh wait.. Mississippi…


    1135. jason says:

      Plenty of toilet paper around here but you have to buy the big packs with like 36 rolls.

      So the supermarkets have a sign that says you can “share with your neighbors”.

    1136. jason says:

      The “statewide order” BS is a red herring.

      EVERY state has implemented social distancing, but some use their health departments to do so.

      Hey Paul, GFY.

    1137. Country Dick Montana says:

      So the supermarkets have a sign that says you can “share with your neighbors”.

      I did say that we all come together for the overall good…but there are limits. In this case what’s mine is mine.

    1138. jason says:

      Btw, I have not figured out anything in PA you can’t do in the “stay at home” counties vs. the “not stay at home” counties in PA.

      If you read the list of exceptions, there doesn’t seem to be any difference.

    1139. jason says:


      “Justin Penn, a Pittsburgh voter who calls himself politically independent, favored Joe Biden in a matchup with President Donald Trump until recently. But the president’s performance during the coronavirus outbreak has Penn reconsidering.

      “I think he’s handled it pretty well,” he said of the president, whose daily White House appearances Penn catches on Facebook after returning from his job as a bank security guard. “I think he’s tried to keep people calm,” he said. “I know some people don’t think he’s taking it seriously, but I think he’s doing the best with the information he had.”

      Although Penn, 40, said he did not vote for Trump, his opinion of the president has improved recently and he very well might back him for a second term.

      Across the country, the coronavirus has sickened more than 150,000 people, cost millions their jobs and tanked the stock market. Yet the president’s approval ratings are as high as they have ever been, despite what most agree to be his slow performance dealing with the crisis, as well as his record of falsehoods about the virus, his propensity to push ideas and treatments that contradict expert advice, and his habit of lashing out at governors on the front lines.

      While public perceptions are fluid in a crisis, a notable twist in polling at this point is that independents are driving Trump’s bump in approval, and some increased Democratic support is a factor as well. Gallup called that “highly unusual for Trump” in reporting its latest survey, which was released last week a”nd showed Trump’s approval rating at 49%, equal to the best of his presidency.

    1140. Paul says:

      Jason (despicable turd):

      You haven’t shown me one of those states that has a state-wide “shelter in place”. I guess Red States don’t care about deaths as usual.

    1141. Paul says:

      Country Dick,
      I hate you. Go f&ck yourself.

    1142. Country Dick Montana says:

      “his propensity to push ideas and treatments that contradict expert advice”

      I am sure that Drs Fauci and Birx might disagree with that statement. Typical NYT.

    1143. Country Dick Montana says:

      1200-Can you tell me what I said to deserve that?

    1144. Paul says:

      Country Dick,
      They stay in line so that they don’t get fired by the Traitor Trump.

    1145. jason says:

      “Interviews with about two dozen independent and Democratic voters, most of whom said they “somewhat disapproved” of Trump in a poll last year by The New York Times and Siena College, showed that some now expressed more positive views of him. Their numbers were small, consistent with what pollsters say is by historical standards a modest bump in approval for a commander-in-chief during an emergency.

      Kathleen Mathien, an independent in Maricopa County, Arizona, said that she did not vote for Trump, but that her opinion of him had risen during his White House appearances to talk about the virus.

      “He’s not one to be bullied,” she said, adding that she also saw flashes of empathy, a trait many critics find lacking in Trump.

      Mathien, 64, a designer of cabinetry, explained that she doesn’t closely follow politics and finds it difficult to get a true understanding of candidates beyond the “smoke and mirrors” they project. “It’s so hard sometimes to vote if you don’t know who the real person is,” she said. Undecided as of now, she said Trump has a chance to win her vote….

      Robert Taylor, 31, a computer programmer in York County, Pennsylvania, wants Sen. Bernie Sanders to be the Democratic nominee and is unsure if he will vote for Biden in a contest against the president.

      “I’m not one of those people who hate Trump and thinks everything he’s done is wrong,” he said. He could vote for Trump if the president successfully leads the country through the coronavirus crisis, Taylor said. “We’ll see how he handles everything from here on out.”

      Two months ago, Neil Ferguson of Earling, Iowa, stood in a corner for Sen. Amy Klobuchar at Iowa’s Democratic caucuses. But he is displeased today by Democrats criticizing Trump’s leadership and wants the country to rally around the president at a time of national emergency.

      “At some point we’ve got to get behind this together,” he said. “Every step of the way he’s criticized,” he said of the president. “I know a lot of voters out here that say yeah, had they given the guy a chance, maybe things would have been a lot better.”

      Ferguson, 67, who is retired from the military, regularly watches the White House briefings, and though he sometimes winces over the president’s rambling delivery, he is impressed with Vice President Mike Pence and with Trump’s responses to reporters.

      “When he gets to the question-and-answer period, he is pretty point-on,” he said. Four years ago Ferguson voted for a third-party candidate, but this year he has decided to vote for the president.

      Among voters already supportive of Trump, recent polling shows their enthusiasm to support him in November is running well ahead of the enthusiasm of Biden backers. Janice Friedel, a professor in Des Moines, Iowa, and a Democrat, liked Trump before the virus hit, and now her support has grown stronger.

      “I thought President Trump was doing OK, but this really has brought out his strong leadership, his ability to bring people together across the aisle,” she said. “I am a Democrat, but I am going to vote for him. I don’t see leadership on the Democratic side. But I certainly will vote for Trump.”

    1146. Paul says:

      Country Dick,
      You are an idiot. Despicable turdface.

    1147. Paul says:

      Jason (despicable turd) has still not answered any of my questions. He’s got nothing. Run along, turdface.

    1148. Country Dick Montana says:

      1205 – Bless your heart.

    1149. jason says:

      “You haven’t shown me one of those states that has a state-wide “shelter in place”.


      Did the goalposts just move?

      Here is what you wrote:

      Social distancing is not in place in many Red States.”

      Social distancing is in place in all 50 states and territories.

      “Shelter in place” is not, but it has nothing to do with red or blue states, and instead on what is deemed necessary.

    1150. jason says:

      jason (despicable turd) has still not answered any of my questions.”

      What is the question?

      I just proved you wrong on every state you mentioned as not having social distancing. They all do.

      Next question?

    1151. Paul says:

      I’ll go take my antipsychotic meds and watch some WW2 documentaries.
      Take care you all,

    1152. Paul says:

      Country Dick Montana,
      Sorry for the name-calling. I have psychotic breaks every once in awhile. I’ll be better later.

      take care everyone and don’t leave your houses.

    1153. jason says:

      It is strange, but some of the Bernie Bros do see Trump as an anti-establishment figure like Bernie, while they see Biden as 100% establishment.

    1154. Country Dick Montana says:

      I get it now, Paul is a parody poster. Cool.

    1155. Tina says:

      Jeff Carlson Retweeted

      BREAKING: China has concealed the extent of the coronavirus outbreak in its country, under-reporting both total cases and deaths, the U.S. intelligence community concluded in a classified report https://trib.al/m5xhKRh

    1156. VictrC says:

      I know this has probably been beaten dead by now, but its obvious that the poster doesn’t understand the dynamics of the Midwest, Rocky Mountain states or the West.

      Here in Texas Dallas was one of the first cities in the country that had a shelter in place order. Houston (thanks Phil) followed, and I can tell you here in Austin and San Antonio (we are in both) Shelter in place has been in place since before Spring break (we are going on week 3.5 here.

      As for the rest of Texas, shelter in place to avoid contact with others is a way of life. I don’t think you need a statewide shelter in place in Comanche, Monahans, Iraan (yep, its really a town) etc. because people out there live in big ranches and its sparsely populated.

      Same goes for Wyoming, Nebraska, Kansas, Montana, Idaho, etc etc etc

      The big cities in each will most likely put a shelter in place in effect whereas the rest of the state will abide by the regulations to avoid contact, which in many cases, isn’t very hard.

    1157. Paul says:

      1214: China has concealed the extent…
      Gee willikers. That’s a bit of a shock.

    1158. Cash Cow TM says:

      WV is a very red state.

      Schools closed statewide early on in this crisis.
      Even though we have an big elderly and poor health population, we have no deaths so far.

      No church services have been held for at least a month.

      Social distancing in place.
      Pharmacies are drive through only.
      Bars, restaurants, Movie theatres, beauty parlors, barber shops, gyms, etc, etc., etc. closed.
      Ban on gatherings of more than 10 people.

      SEVERLEY limited visits at hospitals and no visitors at nursing homes.

      Gov. ordered essential only travel outside the home. Basically, shelter in place.

      Gov. has ordered people traveling to WV from states with CV-`19 outbreaks to self quarantine for 14 days (or face arrest and fines and possible jail).

      Gov. has closed all state park lodges, cabins, campgrounds. Has also ordered closed all private campgrounds. […ACLU is having a snit fit over this and the one above about travel bans from states that have CV-19 outbreaks].

    1159. Paul says:

      1215: That probably is true for states out west. I do think Florida should have done a bit more…. Mostly I was messing with Jason.

    1160. jason says:

      Italy numbers in. 11th straight day under peak. Slight fluctuation in new cases but fewer deaths. They have turned the corner.

    1161. Victrc says:


      Florida and de Santis have overall done a good job, but a glaring mistake was allowing spring break to happen. That should have been shut down without a doubt, and if any area in Florida should have had a shelter in place it should have been Miami area, as they have lots of international visitors, as well as Ft. Lauderdale, Palm Beach all the way up to Jupiter because of the influx of Ny area people coming in. Same for Tampa Bay and Orlando.

    1162. Cash Cow TM says:

      WV local residents responses to CV-19 epidemic:

      Facebook friends have been sewing masks and sending them to local hospitals, nursing homes, fire and police and ems workers.

      Local county school system sending 30 3-d printers to Shepherd University to make masks for health care, EMS, etc. workers.

      Local fund established to allow people to donate $$$ for relief efforts.

      businesses and restaurants (still opened if they have curb side only or drive through) have been making meals to give to school children at no cost.

      Local restaurants have been making and sending food for free to EMS, hospital staff, etc.

      People being EXTRA courteous and appreciative of staff at grocery stores, truck drivers, etc. for their work and efforts during this time of trial and tribulation. Some drive through and curb side only restaurants offering truckers 40% discounts.

      Someone organized a drive in last week at the local hospital where the parking lot was full of cars with their 4 way flashers on to show support for the hospital staff.

      Some folks offering free child care for hospital staff.

      Mrs. Walt is cooking a big pot of soup as I type to take to various people who are shut in.

      People are looking after neighbors and friends every way they can.

      That is the WV way.

      Walt opined that the CV-19 epidemic is yet another reason why he is relieved that his parent, brother, other loved ones passed away many years ago and do not have to go through all this…

      Watery stuff coming out of my eyes as I type this…must be allergies…

    1163. Cash Cow TM says:

      Maybe Bloomberg ought to redirect his $500 Million he is giving to Joe Biden campaign and give instead to relief efforts to fight the virus…

    1164. DW says:

      How can it be that WV can be so smart about Coronavirus, and be so absolutely retarded about Manchinvirus?

    1165. jason says:

      Yahoo fake news headline…

      “White House dashes hopes of uninsured Americans”

    1166. Nancy Phucking Pelosi says:

      Paul makes me appreciate what a genius Proud Obamacon is

    1167. jason says:

      Trump just announced he is postponing the election until Nov 5, 2021.

      I think it is a good move.

    1168. Pitchaboy says:

      Why does China’s dishonesty matter?

      The official numbers look more like a virus which is not easily transmissible and more like SARS-1. This led to CDC recommending centralized testing and shutting out private labs. This set testing back by 4 weeks here.

    1169. jason says:

      Almost everyone killed by this virus has underlying conditions.

      “The city reported the death of its first patient under the age of 18 on Monday. Like the vast majority of patients who have passed away, the city reported that the minor had an underlying condition. Of the 790 deaths in the city, 777 patients had underlying conditions, which, according to the city’s definition, include diabetes, lung disease, cancer, immunodeficiency, heart disease, hypertension, kidney disease, and asthma.

    1170. jason says:

      Nobody went for my April Fool’s above?


    1171. jason says:

      Why does China’s dishonesty matter?

      The official numbers look more like a virus which is not easily transmissible and more like SARS-1. This led to CDC recommending centralized testing and shutting out private labs. This set testing back by 4 weeks here.”

      On Jan 8, NYT:

      China Identifies New Virus Causing Pneumonialike Illness

      The new coronavirus doesn’t appear to be readily spread by humans, but researchers caution that more study is needed.”

    1172. jason says:

      January 20, NYT:

      China Confirms New Coronavirus Spreads From Humans to Humans.

    1173. jason says:

      January 14:


      Preliminary investigations conducted by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of human-to-human transmission of the novel #coronavirus (2019-nCoV) identified in #Wuhan, #China

      January 31:

      Trump suspends flights from China.

    1174. lisab says:

      Country Dick Montana says:
      April 1, 2020 at 12:00 pm

      1205 – Bless your heart.

      ok … let’s all just calm down,

      no need for any of that “bless your heart” language here

    1175. jason says:

      3 weeks would have made a world of difference:

      “The pandemic originated in Wuhan & was initially covered up by Chinese authorities. University of Southampton study found there would have been a 95% REDUCTION in cases & less spread if Beijing intervened 3 wks sooner.”

    1176. jason says:

      Hey Country Dick, I AM ALWAYS CALM, stop telling me what to do and go jump in a lake.

    1177. jason says:

      All the other countries should send China a bill for the cost of all this.

      The MSM and the Marxists will howl, but I don’t see why the Chinese can’t be billed and sued.

    1178. Scooterboy says:

      Proud Obummercon is the smartest poster on this blog.

    1179. Scooterboy says:

      Is it true that Bitter has never seen The Godfather?

      That would definitely be grounds for kicking his azz out of the A-hole club.

    1180. dblaikie says:

      1237 Happy April Fools day!

    1181. jason says:

      Could rival Wolf for most clueless governor….

      “Michigan Governor Who Banned Anti-Coronavirus Drug Touted by Trump Now Asking for Shipments of It”

    1182. jason says:

      That would definitely be grounds for kicking his azz out of the A-hole club.”

      Bitter, Scooter really wants your desk….

    1183. jason says:

      Proud Obummercon is the smartest poster on this blog.”

      He would be here to take the award, but he put the finishing touches on the Nicholas Maduro statue he is placing in front of his parent’s house. He positioned it so he has a good view of it from the basement window.

    1184. jason says:

      We are starting to build the herd immunity, about 9000 recovered in the US as of today, this will increase dramatically soon as the first wave of big case numbers that started around March 20 recover.

    1185. Scooterboy says:

      1239. Back at ya !!!!

    1186. NYCmike says:

      “This led to CDC recommending centralized testing and shutting out private labs. This set testing back by 4 weeks here.”


      Was reading about the German health system a little bit yesterday, and the story said their system is more decentralized then ours, which surprised me.

      Do you know anything about their system?

    1187. NYCmike says:

      “Is it true that Bitter has never seen The Godfather?”

      -Saw that, and was SHOCKED!

      Bitterlaw, you need to watch Godfather Part II as well, to get the full story.

    1188. mRviTO says:

      DeSantis has issued a stay at home order.

      This will not change our routine at all… wife continues to be an essential worker, I will continue teaching my daughter by virtual school, and I will continue to only go out for food and supplies. Church has been online for weeks.

      When this over, everyone please continue to remain six feet away from me at all times, just like before it began.

    1189. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Drug-maker donates 600,000 doses for treatment of COVID-19 in NC hospitals

      Six hundred thousand doses of a drug used to treat COVID-19 patients could be in North Carolina hospitals this weekend after a whirlwind effort by a pharmaceutical maker, state officials and two men from north Mecklenburg County.

      This week the New Jersey-based Amneal Pharmaceuticals donated the drug hydroxychloroquine to the N.C. Department of Health and Human Services.


      I thought this drug was a hoax pushed by grifters?