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Biden Within 2% of Trump in IA

Public Policy Polling released a new poll for the state of Iowa today that shows Donald Trump, while ahead, struggling to maintain the same margin he had four years ago when he nearly won Iowa by double digits.

PRESIDENT – IOWA (PPP)
Donald Trump (R-inc) 48%
Joe Biden (D) 46%

US SENATE – IOWA (PPP)
Joni Ernst (R-inc) 43%
Theresa Greenfield (D) 42%

The above also represents yet another US Senate seat in danger. This poll was done April 30-May 1 among 1222 registered voters.

Posted by Dave at 10:15 am
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691 Responses to “Biden Within 2% of Trump in IA”

  1. Tina says:

    PPP drat?

  2. jason says:

    I agree with this.

    “Oh bye the way, I appreciate the message from former President Bush, but where was he during Impeachment calling for putting partisanship aside.” @foxandfriends He was nowhere to be found in speaking up against the greatest Hoax in American history!”

  3. jason says:

    If that is the best PPP can do for IA I don’t think Trump or Ernst have to worry there.

  4. jason says:

    GWB would have a lot more credibility if he had come out strongly against Schiff’s kangaroo court impeachment.

  5. Phil says:

    W hasn’t gotten over his brother not being handed the nomination. It was Jeb’s turn, damn it!!

    He’s about as nonpartisan as his aide Nicole Wallace.

  6. Phil says:

    In fact, I’m surprised Bush isn’t a regular writer for the Bulwark. Hell, he kind of is – It full of Bush supporters.

  7. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

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    And so it begins…

  8. janz says:

    I put GWB in the same category as Romney – an establishment politician with weak, politically correct core values.

  9. dblaikie says:

    New study from China is out about HCQ. Here is the conclusion: “Hydroxychloroquine treatment is significantly associated with a decreased mortality in critically ill patients with COVID-19 through attenuation of inflammatory cytokine storm. Therefore, hydroxychloroquine should be prescribed for treatment of critically ill COVID-19 patients to save lives.”

  10. jason says:

    GWB was a fine President.

    He hasn’t gotten over the fact Trump easily destroyed his brother’s candidacy. Instead of blaming the real Jeb killer, Jeb, he still holds a grudge against Trump.

    Nobody is perfect.

  11. Phil says:

    Uh, yeah, we can all agree GWB wasn’t perfect.

  12. jason says:

    W hasn’t gotten over his brother not being handed the nomination. It was Jeb’s turn, damn it!!”

    Jeb didn’t wanted it handed to him, he wanted to be crowned with it.

    His strategy was look, I have the name, the money, the organization, the endorsements. Let’s just forego this pesky nomination process and move straight to the fall campaign. Thank you very much.

    Trump said “wait a minute”. Is the “front runner” really this guy who hasn’t been off the R country club speaker circuit for over a decade, has the body language and the energy of a warmed up corpse, is about as prepared for the debates as his dog Barney, is completely out of touch with the R base with “illegal immigration is an act of love”. “I will respect conservatives and “let’s join the Dems on common core”? Where is that escalator?

    The rest is history.

  13. jason says:

    ‘through attenuation of inflammatory cytokine storm.”

    Funny, I was just thinking that this morning.

  14. DW says:

    Dave W, if you cannot see the difference between PPP-D and the Des Moines Register poll, I cannot help you.

  15. jason says:

    I have certainly made some bad predictions here.

    But pointing out from the get go that Jeb’s candidacy was going nowhere was not one of them.

  16. jason says:

    This will put some pressure on Wolf.

    Delaware County asks Pa. to count COVID-19 cases in nursing homes separately from general population

    Delaware County officials are asking Gov. Tom Wolf to separately assess new coronavirus cases in the nursing-home population against those among the rest of the population as the county looks to reopen.

    The county council noted that for Delaware County to reach Gov. Tom Wolf’s benchmark for reopening, it would have to record an average of 20 new cases per day for two weeks. Last week, the county averaged 139 new cases per day. But 70% of deaths and 20% of all positive cases are from long-term care facilities, the council said.

    “Council views our current situation as two separate challenges that require separate approaches,” councilman Kevin Madden said at a news conference Monday, reading from a statement prepared by the council.

    The Democratic-controlled body said if Wolf, a fellow Democrat, would assess the cases in the community outside nursing homes, the county may begin to at least partially reopen “before too long.”

  17. jason says:

    Nursing home are relatively easy to isolate and contain.

    The Delco Dems actually have a great idea here which could be exported.

  18. DW says:

    I mean it was only back in March the Des Moines Register said Trump was up 10 points in IA. If they release a new poll and say Trump is up only 2, then its true. But I am not going to believe PPP-D.

  19. Phil says:

    After Watching Wolf from a distance over the last number weeks Wolf does whatever the hell he wants. There is no push back on whatever he does…..and why would there be? There is no credible or significant opposition to Democrats in that or any other blue state. If there was, a clown like Wolf wouldn’t have been elected to begin with. All of them, governors of the United Blue States of Coronavirus, face no effective opposition. Why else would a governor of a state like Oregon with 20 whole new cases a one death a day be able to lock down the state until July 6th?

  20. Phil says:

    Our golf course was closed down for one whole day during all of this. The county judge ordered it and backed off the next day. Why did he back off? There was pushback. Seems some around him explained to him he couldn’t pull that authoritarian crap and get reelected – not in this state. That’s not the case in blue states. No electoral pushback in blue states – and the people in those states suffer economically. It’s their own fault for tolerating any of it, however. It’s why I don’t feel sorry for the people living there.

  21. NYCmike says:

    “Nursing home are relatively easy to isolate and contain.”

    -If you can, take me through this isolation and containment.

    In my opinion, and also through my recent experience with my parents, it is pretty hard to do, as the employees at each facility are among the lowest-paid and least affluent workers out there. They usually do not have access to separate housing to isolate themselves when off work, and they are oftentimes dependent on mass transit, at least in the NYC metro area.

    I guess the workers in your area probably have different circumstances.

  22. jason says:

    Italy
    1221 cases down from a peak of 6557
    195 deaths down from a peak of 919

  23. Tina says:

    Jordan Schachtel
    @JordanSchachtel
    ·
    8m
    The public health bureaucrats who advised the president that social distancing (lockdown) would *stop* the virus have only one thing left to do at this point: have some dignity and resign from your post.

  24. Tina says:

    What if you are the venthoarder and send coronavirus patients to the nursing homes?

  25. jason says:

    In my opinion, and also through my recent experience with my parents, it is pretty hard to do, as the employees at each facility are among the lowest-paid and least affluent workers out there. They usually do not have access to separate housing to isolate themselves when off work, and they are oftentimes dependent on mass transit, at least in the NYC metro area.

    I guess the workers in your area probably have different circumstances.”

    No, not really. Yes, the workers here are probably marginally more affluent than those in your area but the challenges are the same.

    What you say is correct, but the cost of mitigating those risks pale in comparison to the cost of not doing it.

    Like I said yesterday, you could allocate hotel rooms and other facilities. You test them continuously along with the people in their household. You have stringent PPE regulations when handling patients. You can even arrange for special transportation.

    Cumbersome and expensive, but not as expensive as the shutdown.

  26. jason says:

    The public health bureaucrats who advised the president that social distancing (lockdown) would *stop* the virus have only one thing left to do at this point: have some dignity and resign from your post.”

    Oh puhhhleeeze, what dishonest claptrap.

    If there is one thing I never saw Fauci or Birx say is that social distancing would stop the virus.

  27. NYCmike says:

    https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/02/why-i-didnt-rat-on-my-neighbor-for-cutting-hair/

    -I wish he would have given the number for the barber in the story. I could use a haircut.

  28. Tina says:

    Trump owns this one and he will likely lose re election because of it.

    Jordan Schachtel
    @JordanSchachtel
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    31m
    I was told shelter in place would solve the problem. Is this an admission that the Birx/Fauci “social distancing” strategy has failed? Or will they instead use this to lecture Americans that they are not sufficiently complying?
    Quote Tweet

    The Hill
    @thehill
    · 50m
    JUST IN: Trump admin is projecting up to 3,000 daily coronavirus deaths by June: report http://hill.cm/4Sr66DM

  29. NYCmike says:

    “Cumbersome and expensive, but not as expensive as the shutdown.”

    -Agreed.

    We tried to organize some help for the workers, in terms of trying to food shop for them and other things, but it proved to be too hard AFTER the crisis was already upon us. I guess for the fall we will have the summer to try and plan some things out for them.

  30. jason says:

    There is no push back on whatever he does…”

    Well, not exactly correct, there is pushback. We had 10k protesters at the Capitol and he go the message.

    Had there not been, he would be just playing metoo with Cuomo like he did in the beginning.

    While not doing nearly enough, he is opening up half the state (in territory, not population), allowing construction statewide to resume, etc. He is probably going to reopen other areas on May 15th.

    But your point is well taken, in general too many people are way too acquiescent about losing their rights, businesses and way of life.

  31. jason says:

    The projections show the U.S. reaching 200,000 new cases daily by June 1 with a daily death toll of roughly 3,000″

    Zzzzzzz… I bet that is fake news.

  32. jason says:

    Cases are going to increase by 10 times in the next 3 weeks?

    Zzzzzzzz……

  33. Country Dick Montana says:

    “But your point is well taken, in general too many people are way too acquiescent about losing their rights, businesses and way of life.”

    That is the thing that has bothered me the most about this.

  34. jason says:

    nternal Trump administration projections estimate that about 3,000 Americans will die from the coronavirus every day by June 1, according to CDC documents obtained by the New York Times.”

    I bet this will debunked pretty soon.

    It is probably not a current projection and it was probably illegally leaked to the NYT.

  35. pitchaboy says:

    I am noticing a lot of hysteria on this site. By most counts, the numbers are headed downwards and once they get on the slope, it quickly starts going down. Calm is requested. Most states should get open by the end of this month except the idiot Governor Nuisance in CA and maybe NY and NJ.

  36. NYCmike says:

    “Trump owns this one and he will likely lose re election because of it.”

    -Tina,

    What do you mean by this?

  37. jason says:

    It is obvious Phil has his operatives at the CDC trying to ensure he wins his bet.

    But it won’t work. Deaths will be 1000 or less a day by May 15th. .

  38. jason says:

    JUST IN: Trump admin is projecting up to 3,000 daily coronavirus deaths by June”

    If you read the article, this is BS.

    Evidently someone at the CDC leaked a “projection” to the NYT, but we don’t know anything about it or when it was made. For all we know, it could be a contingency projection or an alternate scenario.

    I bet it will be denied at the presser today, assuming there is one.

  39. jason says:

    The numbers don’t add up by the way.

    If we are at 1500 deaths a day with 30k cases, with 200k cases we would have like 10k deaths a day.

  40. Cash Cow TM says:

    According to the inards of the PPP (Pretty Pitiful Polling)…

    49% approve of the job DJT is doing, but
    only 48% would voter to keep him in office.

    Those polled say they voted 49 Trump and 40 Hillary, yet Trump won Ioway by double digits?

    AND…PPP polling inards also say Ernst (R) is significantly behind her D challenger.

  41. Tina says:

    Ny, by dong the mitigation, trump crashed the economy. The mitigators were wrong policy wise, They are Russian Hoaxees 2.0.

    I don’t see how he wins now.

    Hope I am wrong

  42. Country Dick Montana says:

    44 – By running against China, who started this mess. By asking if citizens enjoyed an economy run by their DEM governors, especially if they drag their feet on opening up. Finally, by running against Biden.

  43. Country Dick Montana says:

    Trump had np authority whatsoever to make people stay indoors. That was on the Governors.

  44. Tina says:

    We are lucky to be going against the candidate that is corrupt as China Biden and has memory issues.

  45. Chicon says:

    I go away for awhile and everything is upside down. Robbie sounds like a normal- even intelligent- human. And it’s now accepted that the wizard picks and chooses the polls to write about.

  46. Country Dick Montana says:

    Let me preface this by saying not all Women are like this, especially on this site, however:

    One fear that I have is that Trump has issues with women, especially educated suburban women. Recent polling that I have seen, looks like men are more concerned about finances and want to open up, while women are more concerned about safety and are just fine being shut down.

  47. Phil says:

    The only half way encouraging numbers are out of Europe.

    Spain, italy, Holland, Belgium all show very appreciable progress with their daily case counts.

    Why does this matter? Because we are two weeks behind them. Two weeks behind the first case. Two weeks behind the beginning of the steep rise. Two weeks behind the beginning of the long month long plateau. Bodes well for our numbers towards the end of May.

    Now, let’s see what the governors of the blue states allow to open up at the end of May even with significant improvement. First they will fudge the numbers as long as they can. Lastly, if the governor of Oregon is any clue (July 6th with currently 20 cases a day?) then it won’t matter. They aren’t going to open up and will have to be dragged to do so kicking and screaming.

  48. Country Dick Montana says:

    https://triblive.com/local/pittsburgh-allegheny/no-new-coronavirus-deaths-in-allegheny-county-for-second-consecutive-day/

    Allegheny County is the Pittsburgh region. The County Executive (a DEM) was disappointed that the County was not able to open on May 8. Like Delaware County, there is likely to be some behind the scenes negotiating going on.

    We just had our second long term (60 years) restaurant close its doors for good.

  49. NYCmike says:

    #44 – Agree with C D M more than you, Tina.

    The economy will be an issue, as will China, as will open borders.

    I don’t see how Trump gets blamed for what has happened, and I don’t see people looking to Biden and/or a Democrat to deal with those issues better.

  50. dblaikie says:

    I agree with Pitch. People need to just calm down. States are starting to open up. Govs in states that stay closed as time goes will pay a price politically. There has been good news on the medical front. The heat of summer is coming.

    And Tina, sorry, but social distancing has been good. The curve has been flattened. That is what I thought this was about in the first place. Why do we let power hungry creeps move the goal posts? In fact this should become the mantra across the fruited plain — the curve has been flattened. Our health care system held up splendidly.

  51. dblaikie says:

    Well we now see the new media spin. If we open up deaths will soar to 3000 per day. If that doesn’t take hold their is the new study out of the Univ. of Minnesota which claims that the next wave of virus will be even worse. What a bunch of clap trap. The trouble is that it is going to panic a bunch of people.

  52. Tina says:

    Breaking from the KKK

    Zeke Miller
    @ZekeJMiller
    ·
    12m
    RICHMOND, Va. (AP) — Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam said that he anticipates that business restrictions to ease on May 15.

  53. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    May 4, 2020 at 1:40 pm
    The projections show the U.S. reaching 200,000 new cases daily by June 1 with a daily death toll of roughly 3,000?
    Zzzzzzz… I bet that is fake news.

    – I suspect if we’re seeing 30,000 identified cases a day, we’re probably getting 300,000 cases a day if we figure we’re missing about 9 cases for every one we find. To me, that is a good thing because it shows how the mortality rate is very small. It could be this projection is about the real number of cases each day, but 3,000 deaths a day seems like more scare tactics from the portion of the government which believes we should all stay inside for a couple of years until there’s a vaccine.

  54. Robbie says:

    I’d like to think we’re headed for a downward slope in cases. If this upper respiratory virus is like every other respiratory virus, it will be seasonal and warmer more humid weather will make transmission more difficult (not impossible mind you).

    If we don’t see a downward slope by the end of the month, then a couple of things are possible. 1.) Because of the size of the US, the peaks in different regions will occur at different times. 2.) Governors and mayor who want their emergency powers to continue will purposefully mine target rich locations like nursing homes and prisons to find cases that will make things appear worse than they are.

  55. Scooterboy says:

    Not sure if this has already been posted, but the New York Times published an op-ed Sunday evening arguing that the Dems should consider dumping creepy Joe,

    “ Believing women, that oft-rehearsed exhortation, must mean taking action if it’s to mean anything. A thorough and fully transparent investigation is critical, but nothing produced by any inquiry will entirely settle the question. It is still possible — if not likely — that all of this will simply fade away, and that Mr. Biden will continue his campaign without ever submitting to a full accounting, precisely the sort of thing #MeToo was meant to prevent.

    But it is also possible that this won’t just go away, and that it will demoralize voters and place Mr. Biden at a disadvantage against Mr. Trump in the general election, despite the fact that Mr. Trump has a damning list of accusers alleging sexual offenses. For a candidate mainly favored for his presumed electability and the perception of empathy and decency, that’s a serious liability. To preserve the strides made on behalf of victims of sexual assault in the era of #MeToo, and to maximize their chances in November, Democrats need to begin formulating an alternative strategy for 2020 — one that does not include Mr. Biden”

  56. Robbie says:

    I’ve been following the Singapore model that pitch directed us to last week. Initially, it suggested we’d be done with 97% of our cases by May 11. Now after a week of stubbornly high daily totals, it shows May 21. Ok. Not the end of the world.

    What I find interesting is how well most countries have moved along the predicted path of the curve while the US hasn’t. The easy answer is those countries are much smaller geographically so the outbreak is in a more defined area. Here, we clearly had an outbreak in NY that peaked about 10 or more days ago, yet the cases haven’t fallen because the outbreak has really only slowly moved its way across the country.

    My guess is we’ll see what amount to a double top or peak in the US. One peak for New York and another peak for the rest of the country where the outbreak has been more diffuse. In the stock market business a double top is a sign a downward trend is about to begin whereas a double bottom is a sign an uptrend is about to begin. Hopefully, the rest of the country is about to peak and we’ll see cases start to drop over the next week or so.

  57. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    From Carl DeMaio:

    I just wrapped up a call with the media to unveil the results of Reform California’s statewide poll showing voters strongly oppose a number of Governor Gavin Newsom’s Coronavirus mandates. The full findings are below but here are the highlights.

    • 72% of California voters overwhelming support reopening the state’s economy now by simply requiring businesses to adhere to strict sanitation and social distancing standards
    • 59% of Californians overwhelmingly oppose Governor Gavin Newsom’s decision to offer $1000 taxpayer-funded Covid-19 payouts to illegal immigrants
    • 58% of voters oppose any attempt to arrest protest organizers and any imposition of $1000 fines on protest attendees.

    In stark contrast to the media’s daily love-fest with Gov Newsom, Reform California is using this scientific polling to expose the growing voter opposition to Newsom’s policies and to push for more reasonable approaches.

    The public is on OUR SIDE and we have to keep the pressure on!

  58. Robbie says:

    One other piece of good information. I have a friend who is a management pilot at JetBlue. He told me this morning their load capacity bottomed in April at just 8%. Over the last week, their load capacity has increased to 25%. That matches what Southwest’s Gary Kelly said over the weekend.

    The bad news is United is preparing on October 1, to furlough 4,000 thousand of its 16,000 pilots. The number of flight attendants will be much higher. Without another payroll bailout by October 1, the airlines industry in the US is going to shrink by 25% or 30%. That would be a very tough news item for Trump just 30 days before the election.

  59. Scooterboy says:

    I wouldn’t read too much into polls released in May. The campaign hasn’t even begun yet.

    One GOP strategist- “ From June to August when Biden is broke, you savage him,” the strategist said.

  60. Robbie says:

    Scooterboy says:
    May 4, 2020 at 3:32 pm
    I wouldn’t read too much into polls released in May. The campaign hasn’t even begun yet.
    One GOP strategist- “ From June to August when Biden is broke, you savage him,” the strategist said.

    – I don’t think the polls right now matter much either. I do think Trump is the underdog, but I think we’re underestimating how much a potential vaccine approval announcement could scramble the race in September.

  61. Country Dick Montana says:

    https://triblive.com/local/pittsburgh-allegheny/pittsburgh-argues-it-has-legal-authority-to-regulate-use-of-firearms/

    In addition to Governor Wolf, we residents of Pittsburgh have to put up with an even more idiotic Mayor.

  62. Phil says:

    I’m still not convinced They nominate Biden or if they do he makes it on the ballot to November.

    You think Biden will be any sharper next month? In three months? In October?

    Dementia doesn’t get better over time. It gets worse.

    He won’t get the luxury of hiding out in his basement for that much longer. At some point this summer he will have to start campaigning. The Democratic higher ups know this and they are terrified.

  63. Phil says:

    I might add that I hope the Democrats roll the dice wth Biden.

  64. Country Dick Montana says:

    https://triblive.com/news/world/white-house-disclaims-projection-showing-surge-in-virus-outbreak-by-june/

    Bloomberg reported article on the leaked CDC report saying that there will be 200,000 cases and 3000 deaths a day. The final paragraph is telling:

    “There is a history of the CDC overestimating disease outbreaks. In 2014, the agency said that in a worst case, there might be more than half a million cases of Ebola from an outbreak that began in West Africa. The actual number of total cases in the outbreak ended up being about 28,600, according to the CDC.”

    That’s how you keep your government job, scaring the beejezus out of people, and being wrong pretty much all of the time.

  65. Tgca says:

    11

    GWB was a fine President.

    Both me and my good friend Wes wholeheartedly agree with you on this Jadon. One of two best GOP presidents in last 20 years.

  66. Tina says:

    Nuissance s polling probably took a bit by closing Orange County’s beaches while all other beaches are open.

    A dumb decision just to punish.

    Plus he had his Swat members out to protect the capitol from old people demonstrating.

  67. Tina says:

    I am not a big fan of the CDC.

    They foolishly trusted the Chinese commies lies on the XI VIRUS.

  68. NYCmike says:

    “One of two best GOP presidents in last 20 years.”

    -Heh!

  69. Tina says:

    The Bush Center is at it again. They kissed the arse of Xis WHO a few weeks ago.

    Now, they want more illegals.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/03/bush-center-slams-trump-we-want-more-migration/

  70. NYCmike says:

    #72 – really tone-deaf. Almost worse than Romney.

  71. Tina says:

    Wrong Wray is a disaster. Comeys chia pet.

    weeted

    Techno Fog
    @Techno_Fog
    ·
    18m
    5/4/20 House Republican letter to FBI Director Wray:

    Produce all documents on the operation against Flynn, including the Flynn/Kislyak call.

    Provide Pientka and Priestap for interviews.

    Explain the FBI’s conduct in targeting Flynn and hiding the evidence.

    ht
    @gregg_re

  72. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-o-neil/2020/05/02/387677-n387677

    -Wanted to post this link, it is Scott Adams (Dilbert) once again lauding Trump. In the past, Robbie (and “CG”) have scoffed at his opinions.

    Will the new Robbie have a different take?

  73. Tina says:

    I listened to Scott Adams “grades” on handling coronavirus.

    He seemed reasonable.

    First time I listened to his show.

  74. PresidentPaul! says:

    Q1 almost done and on to Q2. USA did well but covid came here last among the group.

    Jeffrey P. Snider
    @JeffSnider_AIP

    US GDP for Q1 advance est. was -4.9%. Likely to be revised to -8% or so. Europe -14.4%. China -6.8%. Only 1 left is Japan. When it reports, clean sweep of fragile across the world – in the *first* quarter.

  75. PresidentPaul! says:

    and on to Q2

    Jeffrey P. Snider
    @JeffSnider_AIP

    ·
    1h
    We knew Q2 would be 1930’s levels. But Q1 is turning out to be 2008 levels already. The US/global economy was in very bad shape to begin this dislocation. This shocking (to anyone following Jay Powell) fragility is important for understanding potential.

  76. NYCmike says:

    https://hotair.com/archives/ed-morrissey/2020/05/04/snitches-get-glitches-facebook-post-exposed-900-missouri-lockdown-tipsters/

    -I had a neighbor about a week ago who was blasting music until about 1:30AM. I didn’t think at all about calling the cops. I did grab a hockey stick at one point, but then realized I wasn’t about to club anyone over the head for playing loud music, IF my actions had lead to a confrontation, so that idea was squashed rather quickly.

    After thinking about it, I choose to live in a place that has people stacked right up on top of each other, so I will deal with it. Hopefully will meet the people and be friendly enough with them that next time I could prevail upon them with a short conversation to finish up earlier.

  77. PresidentPaul! says:

    CCP’s first and only (and recently christened) aircraft carrier returns from its first month of training aimed at threatening the US protected Taiwan of course.

    “The Liaoning would play a major role in the PLA’s plan to unify Taiwan by force, so it’s necessary for the aircraft carrier strike group to get back to operations, step up training and send a warning to Taipei,” he added.
    Lu Li-Shih, a former instructor at the naval academy in Taiwan, said the PLA Navy had regularly held drills in the waters east of the island in recent years to avoid surveillance by Taiwanese radar systems and US satellites.

  78. Cash Cow TM says:

    I thought the Q2 was a ship.

  79. jason says:

    Dishonest MSM strikes again:

    The Trump administration on Monday pushed back against an internal government report, obtained by the New York Times, that predicts the daily coronavirus death toll could nearly double in the United States by early June.

    The Times story cites an internal CDC update, acquired from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, that predicts the number of deaths per day from COVID-19 will reach about 3,000 by June 1.

    More than 68,000 people in the United States have already died from the coronavirus pandemic, summarily eclipsing an earlier estimate of a total U.S. death toll of 60,000 lives lost from the virus.

    “This is not a White House document nor has it been presented to the coronavirus task force or gone through interagency vetting,” White House spokesman Judd Deere said in a statement.

    The internal document obtained by the Times also suggests that by the end of the month, the country would likely experience 200,000 new cases a day, up from a current rate of about 25,000 a day.

    “This data is not reflective of any of the modeling done by the task force or data that the task force has analyzed. The president’s phased guidelines to open up America again are a scientific driven approach that the top health and infectious disease experts in the federal government agreed with. The health of the American people remains President Trump’s top priority and that will continue as we monitor the efforts by states to ease restrictions,” Deere said.

    Justin Lessler, an associate professor of epidemiology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, who reportedly created the model reported by the Times, told the Washington Post that the work contained a wide range of possibilities and modeling was not complete.”

  80. jason says:

    I am prescient…

    This is what I said when this garbage came out:

    “If you read the article, this is BS.

    Evidently someone at the CDC leaked a “projection” to the NYT, but we don’t know anything about it or when it was made. For all we know, it could be a contingency projection or an alternate scenario.

    I bet it will be denied at the presser today, assuming there is one.”

  81. PresidentPaul! says:

    #65
    Biden can’t even read a speech let alone give a speech at the DNC convention.

    Pretty sure he died months ago.
    https://youtu.be/-XoqHFawOoQ

  82. Tina says:

    I am sure the gubment docs will poo poo this

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  83. jason says:

    Ronna tells it like it is. I like the idea that none of the MSM people that failed to ask Biden about Tara Reade be allowed on a debate panel.

    MCDANIEL: I’m going to take issue with the media ignoring this. It has been appalling the hypocrisy, as to how Brett Kavanagh was treated versus Joe Biden. Brett Kavanaugh, every accuser was put on TV, it was wall-to-wall coverage. They went into his high school yearbook. They said he needed an FBI investigation. Michael Avenatti was on TV accusing him of gang rape from an accuser who never even met Brett Kavanaugh.

    And then you go to Joe Biden, five weeks of silence. 19 interviews without a single question. He won’t let people go into his records in the University of Delaware. They’re calling on the DNC to do the investigation. It from #MeToo, #MeToo, #MeToo to move on, move on, move on in a nanosecond because he’s a Democrat.

    And the hypocrisy is appalling and it’s not just from the Democrats, it’s from the media. And I’ll tell you, I think any outlet that conducted those 19 interviews and didn’t ask a single question should be disqualified from conducting any part of a presidential debate.”

  84. PresidentPaul! says:

    #85
    Read that report this morning. It worked in a lab not in humans (yet, if)

    This is the same as people getting excited over producing “neutralizing antibodies” without knowing if those antibodies protect against actual disease.

  85. jason says:

    Chris Murray model now predicting 134k deaths.

    But they have 2200 deaths yesterday and 2200 deaths today and 2300 on Saturday, none of which happened.

    Anyway, it is a completely new model, let’s see how it does. It seems to be already wrong for the first three projections.

    But even if it is true, sorry, Phil, you don’t win the bet, since deaths are estimated at 1500 at day on May 15th.

  86. Robbie says:

    I’ve been reading about the claim made by the Israelis they made a breakthrough on an antibody treatment. Quite a few companies have been working on this very treatment and it would be, in the short term, far more beneficial than a vaccine. However, the story isn’t getting any traction which is a shame.

  87. jason says:

    I read the explanations of the new model.

    “Based on our updated model and latest available data, a projected 134,475 cumulative COVID-19 deaths (estimate range of 95,092 to 242,890) could occur in the US through August. These projections are considerably higher than previous estimates, representing the combined effects of death model updates and formally incorporating the effect of changes in mobility and social distancing policies into transmission dynamics.”

    It is now no longer a straight projection of the cases and deaths based on what has happened, it now tries to incorporate things like “mobility” and the effects of reopening and it now uses hospitalization rates to try to project deaths.

    It is now much more subjective and hypothetical than just trying to extrapolate the cases/deaths as before.

    Like the previous model, I think the first thing that will happen with this one is that the projections will be revised downwards.

    The new model estimates 62k more deaths than the previous model.

    But again, about half of them are from the usual suspects, NY, NJ, IL, MI, MA, although strangely it projects almost 10% of the new deaths from IN.

  88. Wes says:

    Heh.

    Jason says GWB was a fine President.

    If the OED now defines “fine” as “utterly disastrous and failed,” then I can’t help heartily agreeing.

  89. PresidentPaul! says:

    “A masked Senator Kyrsten Sinema identifying herself here by pointing at her purple-pink hair was a moment. Watch:”

    https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1257432551683231759?s=20

  90. Tina says:

    Where are the gubment doctors?

    Hydroxychloroquine News
    @niro60487270
    ·
    1h
    BREAKING: New study (n=373) shows treatment with chloroquine reduces SAR-CoV-2 viral loads significantly faster than non-chloroquine therapies.

    H/T
    @YVRlawyer

    https://medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.26.20081059v1.full.pdf

  91. Phil says:

    IHME Model a total joke. It’s been a joke for the last three weeks. Anyone could look at the the daily numbers each day and see his numbers were BS.

    But hey, maybe Dr No Sports for a Year Fauci will get his wish.

    Open the GD thing up you morons! You are going to get the same number of deaths regardless. You want it over sooner with a lesser damage to the economy or do you want to drag it out and take the whole fricken economy down the toilet over the next year. Remember, the economy is another word for people’s lively hoods.

  92. Pitchaboy says:

    Non randomized study using historical controls. As useful as Aesop’s fables.

  93. Phil says:

    So Murphy’s model says 1500 dead on the 15th? After observing the actual results compared to Murphy’s predictions why on earth would you attach any credence whatsoever to what that idiot says?

  94. Pitchaboy says:

    All models are turning into jokes. We will know the real score when the last person drops dead, it appears.

  95. jason says:

    Number of states with fewer than 10 deaths today: 33

    States reporting 0 deaths: 18

  96. jason says:

    So Murphy’s model says 1500 dead on the 15th? After observing the actual results compared to Murphy’s predictions why on earth would you attach any credence whatsoever to what that idiot says?”

    Not me. I intend to win the bet with less than 1,000 on the 15th.

  97. jason says:

    Don’t jump out of windows just yet:

    “Bloomberg) — Goldman Sachs Group Inc. and Morgan Stanley economists said there is evidence the world economy is starting to recover from the coronavirus and the restrictions placed on businesses and consumers.

    “Economic activity has probably bottomed now,” Jan Hatzius, chief economist at Goldman Sachs, said in a report to clients on Monday. “Lockdowns and social distancing are starting to diminish as many countries are cautiously reopening their economies.”

    Goldman Sachs predicted advanced economies will contract an average 32% in the current quarter before growing 16% in the next three months and 13% in the final quarter of the year.

    At Morgan Stanley, chief economist Chetan Ahya said in a report on Sunday that “a number of the high-frequency indicators we track suggest that the global economy is in the process of bottoming out.”

    Consumers’ expectations have improved, mobility trends have risen from their troughs and household spending is contracting more slowly than in the early weeks of the outbreak, he said.

    “Our read is that China’s economy bottomed in February, and we think the euro area has likely troughed in April with the U.S. following suit from late April,” Ahya said”

  98. Phil says:

    I would be more than happy if you are correct about the 1000 number bet or no bet. It would be very good news.

  99. jason says:

    Phil, I am sure anybody would be happy to buy me some tacos and margaritas, especially a budding A-hole.

  100. jason says:

    -How much ca$h are these “Republicans” getting from China?”

    The ends justify the means.

    Nothing is ever too low for the Never Trumpers.

  101. Tina says:

    On the economic news, I posted a few days ago,about airline travel.

    Tsa counts were at their highest level since 3/25.

    Maybe at bottom or start of rebound in the economy in general?

  102. Robbie says:

    Pitchaboy says:
    May 4, 2020 at 7:30 pm
    All models are turning into jokes. We will know the real score when the last person drops dead, it appears.

    – This is my uneducated hunch, but I suspect many of the problems we see with the modeling are our entire pandemic knowledge set is based on something that happened 102 years ago when the Spanish flu hit.

    I don’t think this point is really debatable, but there’s really no comparison between the economy of 1918 and today nor is there really any comparison between the health care available in 1918 and today.

    Also, much of the discussion is based on a second wave that’s worse than the first, but, again, that’s based on 1918 and a flu epidemic. I’m sure we’ll see coronavirus in the late Fall, but we’ll likely be more prepared and have quality antibody treatments available by then.

    Long story short. I think trying to fit coronavirus into the template of Spanish flu is not working.

  103. jason says:

    Number of counties in Texas with zero COVID-19 cases today: 202

  104. Tina says:

    The 1918 recession lasted seven months. It ended in March of 1919. By 1920, we were in a severe recession (depression). ,

    It is good to note that Goldman and Morgan indicate a bottoming about a week ago.. TSA Stats suggested a rebound in airline travel (domestic).

  105. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    May 4, 2020 at 8:17 pm
    On the economic news, I posted a few days ago,about airline travel.

    Tsa counts were at their highest level since 3/25.

    Maybe at bottom or start of rebound in the economy in general?

    – April was almost certainly the bottom, but whether we’re going to see a rebound is another question. Yesterday, the TSA screened about 175,000 people which is basically twice the low point from early April.

    As I noted earlier, my management pilot friend at JetBlue said over the last week or so seat capacity has increased to 25% in bookings. Hardly great on a 90% reduced schedule, but better than nothing. Southwest has reported something similar.

    There are approximately 16,000 US passenger planes currently parked around the country.
    Basically, there are no widebody planes flying in the US (767, 777, 787, or A330).

    Maybe we can get passenger daily totals back 1,000,000 a day by the end of the year, but we should be doing 2,500,000 a day right now. The hit has been cataclysmic.

  106. Tina says:

    It is also critical to note that pre Covid lockdown we were growing in the 2 to 3 percent range.

  107. jason says:

    The second wave, IF it really happens, will be a lot easier to contain/deal with.

    1) There will be a large number of immune people, especially in densely populated areas and among health care/nursing home workers.

    2) There will be a lot more testing/tracing available.

    3) There will be at least some treatment options.

    4) The medical community will have more experience dealing with the virus.

    5) There will be a lot more PPE available.

  108. Tina says:

    These are the Tsa passenger count stats.

    Total Traveler Throughput
    (1 Year Ago – Same Weekday)
    5/3/2020 170,254 2,512,598
    5/2/2020 134,261 1,968,278
    5/1/2020 171,563 2,546,029
    4/30/2020 154,695

    https://www.tsa.gov/coronavirus/passenger-throughput

  109. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    May 4, 2020 at 8:32 pm
    The 1918 recession lasted seven months. It ended in March of 1919. By 1920, we were in a severe recession (depression). ,

    – I think we should be cautious about comparing the 1918 economy with today. In 1918, only 10% of roads were paved, most people still road horses, and much of the economy was agricultural.

    I think we’ll see slow, grinding improvement, but I think the hit to the psyche of the public is going to take a long time to overcome, especially since governors are likely not to give up their emergency powers any time soon.

  110. Tgca says:

    So Don Lemon thinks Obama is cuter than Trump. Smarter. He thinks Michelle is more accomplished than Melania too.

    Sounds like lil gay Donny boy got a man crush on Obama. Now we know who he’s thinking about in those lonely nights stuck at home during the lockdown.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cnns-don-lemon-unleashes-anti-trump-diatribe-saying-obama-is-smarter-and-better-looking

  111. Tina says:

    They are not comparable.

    We were coming off of a major War, which was unpopular at return.

    While we have a pandemic now, we have no major war aftermath.

  112. Country Dick Montana says:

    Wow – Veterans Affairs had 184 deaths recorded today. That’s almost 15% of all of today’s deaths.

  113. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1256946068622913538

    -How is Florida doing?

    Desantis going off here!

  114. jason says:

    I have a couple friends who are contractors/installers that started working again today in York County. You definitely see more traffic on the roads.

    Hopefully most of the economy is on hold rather than killed.

    We will see.

  115. jason says:

    Wow – Veterans Affairs had 184 deaths recorded today. That’s almost 15% of all of today’s deaths.”

    Probably accumulated.

  116. NYCmike says:

    Definitely more traffic around NYC last couple of days. Unfortunately, there have been several more accidents already……bad drivers seem to be the least worried about the Wuhan.

  117. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    May 4, 2020 at 8:48 pm
    I have a couple friends who are contractors/installers that started working again today in York County. You definitely see more traffic on the roads.

    Hopefully most of the economy is on hold rather than killed.

    We will see.

    – My guess is we’ll see an initial sharp rebound just because things restart in manufacturing and construction. After that, things will probably go sideways for a good long while as the service economy struggles to regain its footing. Like Jaws, I think it will take a while for people to think it’s safe to get back in the water. It will happen over time, but probably only gradually.

    However, I have been impressed by the pictures and video I’ve seen across Europe and even here in the US at how many people seem ready to get back to normal.

  118. Tina says:

    Desantis and the Sd Governormhave to rate the best.

    Whitler and venthoarder the worst.

  119. Tina says:

    It’s also apparent that most of the protests appear to be in blue states.

    Ca, Nv, Mi.

  120. NYCmike says:

    Another question: Georgia?

    How is Kemp doing? Are numbers spiking or tailing off?

  121. NYCmike says:

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/04/investing/fed-junk-bonds-etfs-debt/index.html

    -I don’t like the looks of this.

    If there isn’t transparency, there must be something not right going on.

  122. Country Dick Montana says:

    1324 Deaths today

    Rolling 7 Day Average Deaths

    4/20 – 2137
    4/21 – 2174
    4/22 – 2154
    4/23 – 2178
    4/24 – 2095
    4/25 – 2124
    4/26 – 2066
    4/27 – 1987
    4/28 – 1959
    4/29 – 1966
    4/30 – 1946
    5/01 – 1938
    5/02 – 1884
    5/03 – 1884
    5/04 – 1875

    Slow Steady decrease. Tomorrow is the key. Last Tuesday’s numbers were 79% higher than Monday’s. The average is 58%.

  123. jason says:

    Pretty obvious since they have 298 cases and 184 deaths.

    Yesterday they had 90 cases and 10 deaths.

    Closed at 24.7k (Michigan is under reported, so we will see a big number tomorrow) and about 1324 deaths.

    That makes it 4 days is row under 2k deaths, 3 days in a row of decreased cases.

  124. Tina says:

    According to the ministry of pandemics, beaches are worse than subways.

  125. Tina says:

    Pretty informative timeline by Tucker on the China Virus:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1257474291114758145

  126. jason says:

    At the moment the Chris Murray model is off as follows:

    Projected Actual
    May 1 2343 1897
    May 2 2276 1691
    May 3 2265 1153
    May 4 2205 1324
    May 5 2180
    May 6 2143

  127. jason says:

    So unless something changes their next total death projection should be lower.

  128. jason says:

    This is from prepared notes?

    “So workers don’t have to leave work to get uh, to be fired in order to — when they get sick to be able to continue to live,” said Biden as he read from prepared notes.”

  129. Country Dick Montana says:

    He will not make it to the convention. Its going to be a matter of how big a house they give to Bernie to keep the bros in line.

    https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/10-Thayer-Beach-Rd-Colchester-VT-05446/220851216_zpid/

  130. Tina says:

    I don’t follow the models (sick of them though), but those are 4 bad days for them.

  131. Cash Cow TM says:

    WV CV-19 stats:

    …50 TOTAL DEATHS (33 of these in nursing homes)
    1,224 TOTAL CONFIRMED CASES (320 nursing homes)
    (177 Nursing hoe residents+ 143 staff there)

    So…

    –66% of WV deaths are of nursing home residents
    –26.1% of WV cases are in nursing homes in WV
    (177 residents plus 143 staff of nursing homes)
    ___________________________________________
    *******************************************

    Of 521 active cases in WV:

    12 in Hosp. ICU (on ventilators), plus
    11 in Hosp. ICU, plus
    41 Hospital (a non-ICU room)
    ____
    64 total in hospitals
    114 at long term care facility
    343 At home

    So…
    WV Hospitals have not been overwhelmed.
    _____________________________________________
    **********************************************
    4.15% WV case fatality rate (U.S. avg. 5.27%)

    0.068 % population positive (U.S. avg. 0.348%)
    ***********************************************

    2.27% % of Tests Positive (U.S. avg. 16.32%)
    ***********************************************

    2.994% % of population tested (U.S. avg. 2.13%)

    Beat those numbers, ‘Merica!

  132. Tina says:

    Thao Nguyen
    @helloitsthao
    ·
    3h
    26% of democrats say that biden should be replaced as the nominee after hearing about the tara reade case, including 40% of dems under 45, in a new morning consult poll

    biden will be the nominee but this certainly doesn’t inspire confidence in him

  133. jason says:

    Security guard father of 9 shot for trying to get woman to wear mask in Dollar General store in Michigan.

    Woman left and came back with husband and son, who shot the security guard.

    The guard is dead and the 3 perps face life in prison. All over a stupid mask.

    https://www.wlox.com/2020/05/04/charged-murder-family-dollar-security-guard-over-face-mask-dispute/

  134. Tina says:

    Her tweet was cut off:

    biden will be the nominee but this certainly doesn’t inspire confidence in him
    https://morningconsult.com/2020/05/04/after-watching-biden-deny-reades-claims-1-in-4-democrats-want-a-different-nominee/

  135. Phil says:

    VA hospitals dumped in 184 at the tail end of the day. It was a total that had accumulated over who knows how many days. They just dumped them all in there at once. Also, who knows how many of those were actually exclusively corona deaths and they weren’t passing away because of pre-existing conditions.

    My point is that these stats are hard to extrapolate as far as day to day trends. Kind of like France although not as bad. They sometimes just throw 4 days to a week’s worth from a certain category in on a single day.

    What you need to watch is the European numbers posted in the mornings. Spain, France, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Portugal…..they are a couple of weeks ahead and, therefore, give us an indication of what our trend will look like within the next month. Russia, disregard as they are like a month BEHIND us and tell us nothing about FUTURE trends. UK also disregard as no one knows what the hell is going on there.

    In the meantime let’s open up this MF!

  136. ???? says:

    ????????????

  137. Phil says:

    Ladies and gentlemen, we have reached a new milestone.

    China reports only one case and zero deaths.

    LMFAO!!!!!!

  138. jason says:

    Unfortunately, I am not convinced 95% of the Dems will not vote for him anyway.

  139. jason says:

    Phil is definitely a strong A-hole contender.

  140. Tina says:

    Paging gubment docs

    Reid Wilson
    @PoliticsReid
    · 1h
    French scientists have identified a 42-year old fish monger as the earliest known #COVID19 case in Europe. He went to the ER on Dec 27, four days before WHO id’d cluster of atypical pneumonia in Wuhan. Virus has been circulating longer than we think — https://thehill.com/policy/international/europe/496075-french-hospital-discovers-it-treated-coronavirus-patient-in

  141. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil – PA pretty regularly swaps parties in the Governor’s chair. PA also went for Trump narrowly. The GOP also controls the state Senate and House. It would be nice if they told Wolf to F off but he has broad emergency powers.

  142. jason says:

    “Philadelphia reported no new deaths caused by COVID-19 on Monday and just 186 new cases.

    City officials say it’s a hopeful trend.

    “We’ve been through some tough times in this epidemic, but over the weekend the situation here in Philadelphia is starting to look better,” said Philadelphia Health Commissioner Dr. Tom Farley.

    Hospital numbers are largely holding steady, Farley added, indicating that the worst of the surge may be over.

    As testing capacity expands, Philadelphia has also loosened some of its criteria for getting a coronavirus test. The city is now recommending that anyone exhibiting systems get tested — not just those over 50.”

  143. Phil says:

    Pennsylvania is salvageable. It’s the fricken women in the Philly suburbs that are taking the state down the toilet electorally. Moronic suburban women who are guided by emotion instead of common sense. We have our share of them in the suburbs of Dallas and Houston but fortunately not nearly in the numbers that surround Philly.

    Yankee suburban women are just a different animal.

  144. jason says:

    Did Phil just call Bitter’s wife a moronic suburban woman?

    I think we can do away with the preliminary A-hole evaluation and move to Phase 2.

  145. Phil says:

    Now you’re talking!

  146. Scooterboy says:

    153. I veto that motion !!!!

  147. mRviTO says:

    Hey! That’s my job!

  148. PresidentPaul! says:

    Bernie bros hate Warren so she will actually hurt the dems

  149. PresidentPaul! says:

    Biden needs to bring back the mullet!

    https://i.imgur.com/VWAmc0c.jpg

  150. Tgca says:

    Hola papis!

    Feliz cinco de Mayo!

    Arriba! Arriba!

  151. dblaikie says:

    Good morning fellow posters. In looking over at RCP I see a real dichotomy between the polling average and the odds on who will win the Presidency in betting sites. The polling average is Biden plus 5, the betting average is Trump plus 8. So the question is what figure is more in line the with reality?

  152. DW says:

    Trump needs be careful with Biden. If Joe makes it as far as the debates, Trump needs to handle Joe’s dementia carefully. It might work to make fun of it on Saturday Night Live, but in a debate Trump doesn’t want to be in the position of piling on. Would be better to make your points, give your stump speech to answer the questions, then just get out of the way and let Joe do his thing.

  153. jason says:

    Biden-Warren

    150 years of experience!

  154. dblaikie says:

    How about this: Biden/Harris a combined IQ of 150!!

  155. Tgca says:

    Wow! This is what the new workplace will look like in Great Britain, and then inevitably come to Amerika, land of the un-free and home to the cowards of COVID-19.

    No cafeteria
    Bring your own packaged lunch
    Eat alone
    Go to bathroom before and after work at home
    No sharing office supplies
    Pregnant women and fat people should stay working at home

    I can see it now.

    No! You cannot borrow my pen you fat a$$. Now get away from me or I’ll report you for violating safety procedures.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8286345/UKs-work-blueprint-Hot-desking-banned-no-sharing-pens-canteens-closed.html

  156. wvally says:

    The state of California has now provided a list of things you can do outside.

    WTF is singles volleyball?

    https://twitter.com/claytravis/status/1257617489984454656?s=21

    https://covid19.ca.gov/stay-home-except-for-essential-needs/#top

    Badminton (singles)
    Throwing a baseball/softball
    BMX biking
    Canoeing (singles)
    Crabbing
    Cycling
    Exploring Rock Pools
    Gardening (not in groups)
    Golf (singles, walking – no cart)
    Hiking (trails/ paths allowing distancing)
    Horse Riding (singles)
    Jogging and running
    Kite Boarding and Kitesurfing
    Meditation
    Outdoor Photography
    Picnics (with your stay-home household members only)
    Quad Biking
    Rock Climbing
    Roller Skating and Roller Blading
    Rowing (singles)
    Scootering (not in groups)
    Skateboarding (not in groups)
    Soft Martial Arts – Tai Chi, Chi Kung (not in groups)
    Table Tennis (singles)
    Throwing a football, kicking a soccer ball (not in groups)
    Trail Running
    Trampolining
    Tree Climbing
    Volleyball (singles)
    Walk the dog
    Wash the car
    Watch the sunrise or sunset
    Yoga

  157. wvally says:

    Crabbing made the cut but not fishing

  158. Phil says:

    Just looked at the stats from Minnesota.

    There have been a grand total of 428 total Coronavirus fatalities out of the state.

    428 total deaths
    345 of these in long term care facilities

    That’s over 80% of fatalities in long term care or nursing home facilities. Average age of that group 83 years old. Right at 95% of those had at least one pre existing condition. Most of those with multiple conditions.

    For this we have locked down the entire economy and destroyed hundreds of thousand of lively hoods throughout the state. Millions nationwide. This lockdown is insane. We have committed economic suicide for no reason at all.

    I hope Dr No sports for a year Fauci is happy.

    Open the F en thing up. NOW!

  159. Scooterboy says:

    Rasmussen

    Trump

    Approve 47%
    Disapprove 52%

  160. Phil says:

    I guarantee you the goal of blue staters is to keep the economy locked down through however long it takes to produce a vaccine. A year minimum. Bend the curve my ass.

  161. Scooterboy says:

    Andy Lack, the chairman of NBC news and MSNBC is stepping down.

  162. Tina says:

    What the heck?

    Quote Tweet

    Zeke Miller
    @ZekeJMiller
    · 1h
    NEW YORK (AP) — New York state reports more than 1,700 previously undisclosed deaths at nursing homes and adult care facilities.

  163. Phil says:

    175

    These MFs are NEVER going to open up the economy. Whatever numbers they have to find they’ll find to justify an endless lockdown. They aren’t giving up control. Ever. Perpetual lockdown. Sorry, the “numbers” dictate it.

    Oh, and need an elective surgery? A colonoscopy? Cancer checkup? Forget it. Cardio Procedure? Out of luck, pal.

    Suicides, depression, deaths due to lack of medical care for conditions not corona related? Just live with it….and then die.

    Got a business going under? Too F en bad. No job? Tough.

    Have the general population be exposed and create the antibodies to create some sort of herd protection? Nope. Can’t have that. Lockdown forever. Any sort of freedom to actually live your life if you are under 65 and healthy? Hell no. The state will tell what activities you can engage in and when.

    Oh, and the economy in general? LOL Double the national debt over the next year? Not a problem.

    Oh, you don’t like any of this? You don’t care if people die so just shut up.

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  165. Wifey says:

    Call it a divorce. A case of “irreconcilable differences” perhaps, but we’re gone. Splitsville. Outta there.

    We left the GOP at different times for sure, but for the same reasons: We watched a party that we both put decades of our professional lives into as young women coming of age in the mid-1980s through 1990s, slowly but surely become a party hostile to women, minorities and any group but white men, rural and rust belt voters.

    We watched the party of Abraham Lincoln, Frederick Douglass, Teddy Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower, Margaret Chase Smith, Everett Dirksen, Ronald Reagan, Sandra Day O’Connor and Jack Kemp turn into a party of aggrieved, angry, anti-immigrant Trumpites.

    We’ve watched the party move backward in recent years, as fewer GOP women serve in Congress, and the women who do “make it” too often must stand idly and silently by men like Donald Trump when they get caught openly disrespecting women. As women, our perspective and experiences within the party are in stark contrast to those of the men, many of whom are still comfortably and unapologetically snug in the sexist practices, attitudes and general nincompoopery that have long plagued the GOP, and which has snowballed under Trump.

    This doesn’t even begin to address the corruption of historical proportions by Trump and his many jailed former associates. He is, after all, an impeached President, only the third in American history. This so-called “Republican” president has destroyed the GOP, cratered the rule of law, and is an open racist and misogynist.

    And if the past week of political headlines is any barometer of where the GOP is headed in the 2020 election, it’s not a good place. President Trump has failed horribly in his duties to protect the nation during the coronavirus pandemic. Over 67,000 Americans are dead from the virus in just six weeks. Over 1.1 million Americans are infected. The economy has lost 30 million jobs. And polling data shows Trump trailing Joe Biden nationally and in key battleground states. The Republican-controlled Senate is now also in play.

    None of this is a surprise to us. The alleged “pro-life” party now sees GOP governors caving under Trump’s demands to re-open their states by this weekend, essentially risking thousands of more largely preventable deaths by COVID-19, all in service to Trump. Then there are the militia-men protestors, who stormed the statehouse in Michigan last week with weapons drawn, hurling violent taunts. How do pro-life conservatives square that circle as thousands will be exposed to and needlessly die from the virus?

    The Republican Party we once knew and served is gone. Pipe dreams that we can somehow save that party are just that. Donald Trump is now the Republican Party. Trump’s GOP base’s allegiance is bizarre considering he has destroyed every traditional Republican issue they could claim to be their reason for supporting him.

    One of us has been investigative counsel to the Republican Majority House Oversight and Investigations Committee and worked under the RNC Counsel. The other was a legislative aide for former House Republican Leader Bob Michel (R-IL), communications director for the House Education and Workforce Committee, and RNC spokesperson. We’ve each logged in hundreds of cable TV pundit hours.

    We should be, as many of our former colleagues who are women should be, at the table advising, and helping the party to expand. To bring women into the fold. Build the bench. But conservative men in the party do not allow women to rise or thrive. Don’t take our word for it, just look at the numbers aforementioned. Trump and his band of angry men hate Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.), Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.), Hillary Clinton, Sen. Elizabeth Warren not just because they are Democrats; they despise them because they are women out of their place, women who have gained great influence and great power.

    Republican women can no longer ignore the stark contrasts between the two parties in terms of how women are perceived and treated, supported or not supported. In the headlines right now are the sexual assault allegations against former vice president Joe Biden. He addressed the allegations on live television Friday and called for an investigation of the Senate personnel papers to uncover any complaint against him by Tara Reade. Donald Trump has yet to answer dozens of sexual assault and even rape allegations made against him by multiple credible women. He ignores, denies and smears, while his largely Christian base says nothing about his conduct with porn-stars, adultery and the like.

    The question on the table now is can the GOP survive largely with just white men and a handful of women who ignore the misogyny?

    The short answer is no. Because this election, just like every election since 2016, has turned on the female vote. Take Virginia, which has moved from red, to purple, to blue; it now has women lead both its legislative chambers, thanks in large part to the gender revolt against Trump in the 2017 state elections.

    Simply put: Women, particularly suburban women, reject Trump and Trumpism in greater numbers than do men: As a Gallup poll shows, men —largely white men — approve/disapprove of Trump 49/47%. While 37% of women (almost exclusively white women) approve, 60% disapprove.

    But how many of them have one foot off the Trump train for the very reasons we left the GOP?

    With presumptive Democratic nominee Biden copiously vetting women for the vice-presidential spot, it’s imperative that all women are attuned to the language of bigotry, misogyny, double standards and pressuring to “know your place” — not as victims, but as citizens, leaders, and with the responsibility of writing this part of the history books in our voice.

    Because it’s coming — big time. Hang onto your bonnets, ladies, because things are about to get interesting.

  166. Phil says:

    179

    Paid troll

    GFY

  167. Country Dick Montana says:

    Them be a lot of big words. We be but humble pirates.

  168. Tina says:

    They need to investigate the venthoarder and de blah.

    The finding of 1700 nursing home deaths exceeds Florida’s total numbers.

    Remember the presstitutes gaslighting desantis?

    They are now moot.

    But did you know the venthoarder is an eligible batcheloeL

  169. jason says:

    Hey Wifey, Biden didn’t address a darn thing, not only Tara Reade but all the other women who have accused him of inappropriate behavior, not to mention his disgusting propensity for fondling minors.

    But feel free to adopt socialism as part of your “divorce”.

    And Trump, Republicans, conservatives despise Maxine Waters, Pelosi, AOC, and Fauxcahontas not because they are women, but because they represent an completely different ideology.

    And don’t forget, GFY.

  170. jason says:

    Phil told the troll to GFH before I did?

    Great A-hole in progress.

  171. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    May 5, 2020 at 10:05 am
    I guarantee you the goal of blue staters is to keep the economy locked down through however long it takes to produce a vaccine. A year minimum. Bend the curve my ass.

    – This has been apparent since early April. I think governors were fairly surprised how willingly Americans accepted lockdowns. Recognizing they had a unique opportunity to gain control over every aspect of life, governors took the baton and ran with it.

    I’ve said this before, but bears repeating. How often have leaders given emergency powers during a crisis given them back once the crisis is over? Not often.

    Watch for data tracking apps to become a toll governors use to prevent all sorts of things. Could be flu or even whether someone was at a rally that governors don’t like.

  172. Phil says:

    185

    Nailed it.

    Perfectly stated. Leaders don’t give up powers once they get them.

  173. Tina says:

    Just look at the performance of the corrupt SSIC at Ratcliffes hearing,

    The corrupt Rs ans Ds are triggered

    Most corrupt senators on the planet. .

  174. Tina says:

    Another reason, they need to have Fauci stop these interviews.

    He cannot dodge the stupidity of the presstitutes. He feeds them because he wants to answer. Question, like he is turning in a term paper.

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/fauci-pompeo-contradicts-wuhan-coronavirus-lab

  175. Phil says:

    Fauci said no sports for a year.

    I’m done with this guy. that did it for me.

  176. Tgca says:

    Fauci has time and time again shown himself to be a useful idiot. 1st to China. Then to WHO. …and routinely to the MSM.

    He has qualified credentials, training, and subject matter expertise but he lacks the ability to consider inquiries and know his audience. Is he the absent minded professor or what? He’s like Mitt Romney. Being knowledgeable is not enough, you need to know when you’re being played for as a fool.

    Pure gubbermint bureaucrat! If he were in corporate America, he would have been demoted or fired already for many of his missteps.

  177. Tina says:

    He should not even be commenting on the origins. This is now an investigations (intelligence) issue.

    There are also potentially criminal and liability issues involved here

  178. jason says:

    The Fauci haters can keep hating him.

    Trump is dammed lucky to have him, and so are we. Without him, Trump would have zero credibility.

    Saying he is a useful idiot for China and WHO is just stupid character assassination, it reflects a lot worse on Tgca than it does on Fauci. Fauci does not have to prove anything to anybody.

  179. Wifey says:

    At first I thought the pandemic was analogous to global warming, but on a much accelerated time frame. People will deny the science until they personally feel the results. But I now I wonder if the pandemic is more analogous to gun violence. We know what has to be done. Every developed country has done it already. But a minority group of people refuse to give up on their vision of what freedom is. And so we continue and accept a death toll that other nations would never accept. When the death toll from this pandemic climbs, we will just do the thoughts and prayers thing and move on, knowing much of it was preventable.

  180. Wes says:

    Wifey might be more believable without the obvious cut-and-paste talking points.

  181. Phil says:

    3000 dead a day and 200000 new cases a day by June 1st.

    Anyone believe that drivel?

    YOU BETTER NOT OPEN UP!…..because we got this new model we suddenly pulled out our ass showing the death count per day doubling in 25 days and the daily new cases increasing by a factor of ten. Also over 25 days.

    None of this “study” was presented to the Corona Council, but was conveniently presented to the NYT.

    Yeah, YOU BETTER NOT OPEN!

  182. Country Dick Montana says:

    PA goes from 19 to 162 Deaths in a day.

  183. DW says:

    Wifey gives herself away claiming in one post to have been a Republican, then in another post admits (s)he is a left-wing nut who wants to take away guns from law-abiding citizens so only violent criminals will have them.

  184. Country Dick Montana says:

    194 – This one is good. In two posts she has hit on a couple of biggies: misogyny and science denial. What will the next one have?

    I love this one:

    “But a minority group of people refuse to give up on their vision of what freedom is”

    Tells you everything that you need to know.

    Sad person. See them all the time, unattractive and obese, colored hair shaved on one side a tatted up from head to toe. She has as much chance of being a wifey as CM does to being a brain surgeon.

  185. Phil says:

    He might also be believable, Wes, if you didn’t click on his name and have it take you directly to the Joe Biden campaign site.

  186. Country Dick Montana says:

    Wifey is a drive by bot. Doesn’t even see our comments

  187. phil says:

    197

    Thanks, Wolf. You’re doing your share today, buddy. Kudos.

  188. Wifey says:

    Law-abiding citizens should keep their guns. I want guns taken away from violent criminals so that there are fewer thoughts and prayers moments.

    Many Republican women feel the same way.

  189. Robbie says:

    This seems like good news. The same mutation that signaled the end of the 2003 SARS outbreak has appeared in Covid19.

    https://t.co/qEsWkNKuYL?amp=1

  190. Phil says:

    203

    I thought we told you to GFY.

  191. Tina says:

    Here is a chart of our testing explosion for covid. Look at the numbers recently. Look how they dwarf the other countries.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1257714716492722176/photo/1

  192. VictrC says:

    Good to see how the left is going to structure its attack on Trump in the fall. Obviously they are going to try to pin the deaths on him, and say no other country has these amount of fatalities.

    Spain – 25,613
    Italy – 29,315
    UK – 29,427
    France – 25,201
    Germany – 6,993
    Holland – 5,168
    Belgium – 8,016

    Total deaths – 129,733
    Total population – 348M

    US deaths – 70,749
    Population – 345M

    enough said.

  193. wvally says:

    Country Dick Montana says:
    May 5, 2020 at 12:53 pm
    PA goes from 19 to 162 Deaths in a day.

    Was this part of the count?

    Coronavirus In Pittsburgh: Researcher Killed In Apparent Murder-Suicide Was Close To ‘Making Very Significant Findings’ Related To COVID-19, Pitt Says

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/05/04/ross-township-apparent-murder-suicide/amp/

  194. Country Dick Montana says:

    Saw that. Would guess that it is a crime of passion.

  195. Robbie says:

    The best evidence the lockdowns are starting to crumble is the amount of fear porn that has suddenly made an appearance. The LA Times claims coronavirus has mutated into a deadlier form even though a Harvard scientist said the study was wrong. The gangsters at the WHO claimed there is no immunity even after infection. Well if that’s the case, then why has convalescent plasma worked? And more importantly, if there is no anti-body immunity, then what’s the point of a vaccine? Tell those rhesus monkeys that were given the Oxford University vaccine and haven’t gotten sick anti-bodies don’t work.

    The lockdowns were started with the best of intentions. I thought a two or three week slowdown was the appropriate thing to do. Clearly, I was wrong because I naively believed China’s data. But what started with good intentions, has morphed into a power grab and an effort to permanently alter how society functions.

    One reason governors don’t want to end the lockdowns is they want to blow massive holes in their state budgets. Then they can cry about how they need a federal bailout to plug the holes. Illinois wants this so they can fix their corrupt pension plan. Same for other states.

    The lockdowns have also morphed into a desire for a police state. Even if a vaccine was delivered tomorrow, do you see some of these governors giving up on their social distancing statutes? I don’t. Gavin Newsome issued a list of acceptable activities yesterday. Andy Beshear says Kentuckians are prohibited rom traveling to Indiana or Tennessee to eat at their restaurants. Are these people just going to give in and give up their power over our lives without a fight? Of course not.

    This will go down as the greatest bait and switch in American history. What started as “flatten the curve” has become “stay home until we say it’s safe”. My guess is even five years from now, we’ll be dealing with the offshoots of this.

  196. jason says:

    PA goes from 19 to 162 Deaths in a day.”

    So like 90 a day, that seems right.

  197. jason says:

    On May 2, police said 37-year-old Bing Liu was found dead in his home on Elm Court from apparent gunshot wounds to his head, neck and torso. Investigators say they now believe his death is a homicide.”

    These investigators are positively brilliant, I tell you.

  198. jason says:

    I guess it could have been suicide.

    Guy shoots himself a couple times in the chest, doesn’t die.

    Shoots himself in the neck, doesn’t die.

    Goes for kill shot in the head.

  199. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    May 5, 2020 at 1:31 pm
    I guess it could have been suicide.
    Guy shoots himself a couple times in the chest, doesn’t die.
    Shoots himself in the neck, doesn’t die.
    Goes for kill shot in the head.

    – It’s just a flesh wound.

  200. jason says:

    NJ reports 322 deaths vs. 65 yesterday. But around 200 average is about right.

    But with NY + NJ reporting less than 5000 new cases, we might not get any big spike in cases today.

  201. jason says:

    I am through with this turd, but I commend him for saying this.

    “Chris Christie pushes reopening: ‘There are going to be deaths no matter what’

    Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie thinks its important to loosen coronavirus restrictions and reopen the country, even if that means more Americans die as a result of the current pandemic.

    “Of course everybody wants to save every life they can, but the question is towards what end, ultimately?” Christie said Monday during an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash on The Daily DC Podcast.”

  202. NYCmike says:

    Maybe “Wifey” is the other part of Robbie’s psyche that was detached from him several weeks ago.

  203. jason says:

    You could probably save 50000 lives a year if you closed down the country during flu season, right?

    But nobody ever proposed that.

  204. NYCmike says:

    “Many Republican women feel the same way.”

    -Although, I do wonder if this comment of his/hers was correct.

    Unfortunately, I do see the more fragile sex as being more open to the fear-mongering Fauci-types……3….2…1……

  205. jason says:

    I think Wifey is Paul’s guru.

  206. jason says:

    “fear mongering Fauci types”

    LOL

  207. Tina says:

    Have the presstitutes even asked the Venthoarder about the 1700 more deaths from nursing homes? That number alone eclipses all of Florida’s coronavirus numbers.

    Or are they triggered by trump calling a blimp, moon face, or trump re tweeting a picture of him eating a taco bowl?

  208. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    May 5, 2020 at 1:42 pm
    You could probably save 50000 lives a year if you closed down the country during flu season, right?
    But nobody ever proposed that.

    – Not yet, but don’t be surprised if we see people suggest it in the future.

  209. jason says:

    Fauci and his team have probably saved hundred of thousands of lives, and I give him credit for that. I hope he and Birx gets the Medal of Freedom, they deserve it.

    But from the beginning, that very first graph he and Birx put up, which showed a steep mountain superimposed on a flatter smoother hill, the objective was not to bring the cases/deaths to zero, but to flatten the curve so the health care system could handle it.

    And that was done. We avoided a catastrophic scenario of doctors deciding who lived or died in hospital hallways and waiting rooms, maybe even the sidewalk outside. Trump would not have survived that scenario btw.

    So now Fauci and Birx want to keep the cases/deaths as low as possible, and I don’t blame them. They are doctors. They are doing their jobs. It is not their role to save the economy.

    Don’t blame them for decisions politicians make. Trump and all these governors have the facts now. Even the IHME model with 134k deaths still shows we are over the peak and going down, it shows less than 1000 deaths a day in the US in 3 weeks.

    Saying oh well, we are not reopening because of Fauci is a cop-out. We are not reopening because most of the governors are afraid to do so or think it is politically expedient to do so.

  210. jason says:

    About 70% of the new cases in Spain are now among health care workers.

    “But he said infections among healthcare workers had been ‘less serious’ than cases in the general population, which he attributed to the fact they were generally much younger.

    Among healthcare workers, the mortality rate was 0.1 percent compared with 7.8 percent in the general population”

  211. NYCmike says:

    “But from the beginning, that very first graph he and Birx put up, which showed a steep mountain superimposed on a flatter smoother hill, the objective was not to bring the cases/deaths to zero, but to flatten the curve so the health care system could handle it.”

    jason –

    Fine, in regard to Fauci and Birx.

    BUT, why is Fauci commenting on where the virus came from? Where is he getting his information? Is that part of his job as a doctor, to give his OPINION on where this originated?

    Instead of giving these interviews where he answers questions better suited for intelligence specialists like Pompeo, or for the politician like Trump, who has to face the voters, why doesn’t he go volunteer at a hospital to work a night shift, or at a soup kitchen to see all of the people his policies are destroying more and more with each passing day?

  212. NYCmike says:

    “Fauci and his team have probably saved hundred of thousands of lives, and I give him credit for that. I hope he and Birx gets the Medal of Freedom, they deserve it.”

    -March 9th he said it was OK to take a cruise.

    If he had sounded the alarm a month earlier, when the number of cases was 15, then I would put him up for sainthood.

    OR, better yet, sounded the alarm when the original Chinese optometrist died after being forced to give a public apology.

  213. Paul says:

    Jason,
    I agree. The point was to flatten the curve, not to achieve zero cases. I think it is inevitable that a large chunk of the population will get COVID and a certain number will die. Getting to that point slowly just keeps the hospitals from being overwhelmed. I also don’t see anyone making the point that the US is a bunch of curves and not one big curve. All of the curves together could look like a plateau.

  214. Phil says:

    Fauci wants to take our sports away for a year.

    He needs to STFU.

    he should resign and run for governor of some blue state – Pennsylvania, Illinois, Connecticut. He’d be an electoral shoe in and once in could then rule people’s lives with an iron fist. Win Win Easy election win and then unlimited power once in office. He’d love it.

  215. Pitchaboy says:

    Dr. Fauci missed the boat totally. Everyone did. The worst offenders were Dumb and Dumber in NY. However, there is no doubt, he has given Trump credibility

  216. jason says:

    Clinton-Obama in 2020? One former White House official says it’s possible”

    NYC would have his wish. I would go back to where I came from.

  217. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    May 5, 2020 at 2:23 pm
    Fauci wants to take our sports away for a year.

    – He said this last week to the NYT. Did he say it again?

  218. jason says:

    Fauci wants to take our sports away for a year.”

    Zzzzzz…

    Does he have the power to do that?

    If he does, certainly not his fault.

  219. NYCmike says:

    https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/05/pataki-slams-cuomo-calls-for-investigation-in-nursing-home-deaths-amid-coronavirus.html

    -Looks like Pataki understandably went after Cuomo for certain actions (non-action?) during this Wuhan pandemic.

  220. jason says:

    Dr. Fauci missed the boat totally. Everyone did.”

    Ok but this is like blaming the captain of a boat for missing a storm if the weather report said there was no storm.

  221. Phil says:

    OMG

    I agree with Paul.

    What’s this world coming to?

  222. NYCmike says:

    “However, there is no doubt, he has given Trump credibility.”

    -Agreed.

    But that should not grant one hero status, especially as the economy has been ground to a halt due to the lateness of the prescriptions for the Wuhan.

  223. jason says:

    Paul agreed with me in an obvious attempt to sully my reputation.

  224. NYCmike says:

    “Ok but this is like blaming the captain of a boat for missing a storm if the weather report said there was no storm.”

    -Ok.

    So when asked where the disease originated from, either state FACT or say “I don’t know.”.

  225. Robbie says:

    There’s lots of fear porn out there today.

    LA Times says there’s a new mutated strain that’s far more contagious even though most agree the story is bogus.

    Imperial College is out with a new prediction that the second wave will be even deadlier than the first in Italy.

    DailyMail has a story that says not everyone get immunity from coronavirus and it may only last two weeks.

    To my eye, this is a sign the lockdown proponents realize they’re losing their grip on the agenda.

  226. jason says:

    But that should not grant one hero status,”

    He gets hero status for being instrumental in saving hundreds of thousands of lives, and maybe Trump’s presidency.

    That is plenty hero for me.

  227. Pitchaboy says:

    Not a good analogy Jason. When a President is dealing with a once in a century pandemic, he has to rely on his best medical man’s advice. And that advice was muddled, without question. Dr. Fauci did okay cruises on March 9. I am a fan of Fauci, but he gave muddled advice at the start.

  228. jason says:

    DailyMail has a story that says not everyone get immunity from coronavirus and it may only last two weeks.”

    Funny that so far there really have been no credible reports of people getting it twice. While there have been a few, they have been attributed to false-positive results the first time around.

    In the US there are already over 200k reported recoveries, we would certainly know by now if people were getting reinfected.

  229. jason says:

    Not a good analogy Jason. When a President is dealing with a once in a century pandemic, he has to rely on his best medical man’s advice. And that advice was muddled, without question. Dr. Fauci did okay cruises on March 9. I am a fan of Fauci, but he gave muddled advice at the start.”

    Sorry, that dog won’t hunt as we say in Texas.

    He was certainly given “muddled” information, so I give him a pass on any “muddled” advice.

  230. jason says:

    And let’s be honest, he didn’t exactly “ok cruises on March 9”.

    He specifically said elderly/at risk people should not go on cruises, but he thought the risk was low for younger, healthy people.

    It was not good advice because of the risk these people posed to others, but everyone was somewhat evolving on that issue too.

  231. Phil says:

    He hasn’t said it again, Robbie but once was enough for me.

    He doesn’t have to have the power to order it, Jason. His power to advocate for it and pressure Trump, governors, the sports leagues, NCAA etc accomplishes the same thing.

    No one takes away my guns or my sports.

  232. Robbie says:

    Imperial College lockdown fanatic resigns from government advisor position after violating lockdown. Fraud.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/05/exclusive-government-scientist-neil-ferguson-resigns-breaking/

  233. NYCmike says:

    Pitch,

    Don’t bother trying to reason with jason. We have seen this before.

    The A-Hole knows only one thing…..and never changes its mind. Fauci is now chiseled in next to Corker.

  234. Pitchaboy says:

    The heroes are the gutsy Swedes. They picked a route and stuck with it despite worldwide criticism. And now, Mr. Friedman is singing their tune. As for the lockdown, it is a done deal and Trump will not go back there. This country never valued safety over liberty in the long run. And there is no such things as total safety from a virus short of solitary confinement. There will be small to medium waves and we will adapt and learn to live with it until a cure or vaccine or both.

  235. NYCmike says:

    “To my eye, this is a sign the lockdown proponents realize they’re losing their grip on the agenda.”

    -Come on, man!

    What did you do with the real Robbie, and are you allowed to get discounts when staying at Pogo Loco with him?

  236. NYCmike says:

    “The heroes are the gutsy Swedes. They picked a route and stuck with it despite worldwide criticism.”

    -Agreed!

  237. jason says:

    He doesn’t have to have the power to order it, Jason. His power to advocate for it and pressure Trump, governors, the sports leagues, NCAA etc accomplishes the same thing.”

    Oh, I see.

    “His power to advocate” is the problem.

    This sounds a lot like NYC’s theory that Trump is never responsible for any bills because he “just signs them”.

  238. Pitchaboy says:

    Dr. Fauci cannot recommend locking down the young saying they could spread it to their grandparents and kill them, while telling them to cruise around. Inherent contradiction in advice. If they could not leave home, they sure as hell don’t belong on a ship.

  239. Robbie says:

    Pitchaboy says:
    May 5, 2020 at 2:41 pm
    The heroes are the gutsy Swedes. They picked a route and stuck with it despite worldwide criticism. And now, Mr. Friedman is singing their tune. As for the lockdown, it is a done deal and Trump will not go back there. This country never valued safety over liberty in the long run. And there is no such things as total safety from a virus short of solitary confinement. There will be small to medium waves and we will adapt and learn to live with it until a cure or vaccine or both.

    – Trump will never go for another lockdown, but don’t be surprised if Biden does, assuming he wins. It would certainly be a much harder sale the second time, though.

  240. jason says:

    The A-Hole knows only one thing”

    Hmmmm….

  241. jason says:

    f they could not leave home, they sure as hell don’t belong on a ship.”

    Yep, I said it was bad advice, but the fact is he didn’t exactly tell everyone it was ok to go on cruises. But hindsight is always 20/20.

  242. Robbie says:

    Coronavirus may have arrived in Sweden in November: Public Health Agency.

    And yet they somehow managed to live without disastrous results from November to March.

    Honest question. If the pictures from Italy hadn’t been as bad as they were in the first week of March, would we have ever done this? I say no.

    https://t.co/m3rrvpBz78?amp=1

  243. NYCmike says:

    “This sounds a lot like NYC’s theory that Trump is never responsible for any bills because he “just signs them”.”

    -If anyone can find this “theory” in the Archives please let me know……..put your boots on, kids.

  244. Chicon says:

    244 – not only that, Jason, but immunity lasting two weeks means that the antibody study cited by Cuomo suggests that 20% of NYC residents were exposed to the virus in the past two weeks. Sure.

  245. Phil says:

    Advocate or not. I have no use for Fauci and his lock down forever BS.

    Millions out of work Millions more to follow. Not a big deal with Fauci. I get it. Screw him.

  246. Chicon says:

    251 – Mike, the conversion therapy succeeded. This Robbie makes a lot of sense and I am glad to read his posts

  247. jason says:

    Millions out of work Millions more to follow. Not a big deal with Fauci. I get it. Screw him.”

    Zzzzzz… a complete and utter misrepresentation of anything Fauci ever said.

  248. jason says:

    If anyone can find this “theory” in the Archives please let me know”

    LOL

    I could find dozens of posts where you blame the big bad RINOs in Congress for “making” poor helpless Trump sign their bills.

  249. jason says:

    Fauci and his lock down forever BS.”

    And of course, Fauci never proposed any such thing.

  250. Pitchaboy says:

    Italy was the selling point for the lockdown. I think Mr. Trump seriously wanted the Swedish approach. Two things happened: the Imperial College model and the overwhelming of health services in Italy. Trump and BoJo capitulated. Sweden did not.

  251. jason says:

    Ah yes…. the magic word “probable”
    NOTES:

    In accordance with new CDC guidelines:

    New York: the numbers shown below include probable deaths (and, consequently, probable cases for the same number) as reported by New York City
    Maryland: includes probable deaths, as reported by the Department of Health (Section: “COVID-19 Statistics in Maryland”)

  252. jason says:

    Soon we will go to possible, then remotely possible, then finally “knew somebody with COVID”.

  253. NYCmike says:

    “251 – Mike, the conversion therapy succeeded. This Robbie makes a lot of sense and I am glad to read his posts”

    -LOL!

    Let’s see what he is saying on Monday, November 2nd.

  254. Pitchaboy says:

    Had the boys from Stanford advised him, Trump would have pulled a Sweden. We would have probably had around 300 to 400k deaths. Of course, the dems would have said he picked money over lives. He was between the rock and the hard place.

  255. Phil says:

    The policies Fauci advocates mean the lockdown goes on and on and on…..with no end in site. Until there are no cases, which aint going to happen. So it never ends, does it.

    We just want to “bend the curve” my ass. He sold us a bill of goods. Now he has moved the goal posts. Well, we bent the curve. Now, no sports for a year? Uh, yeah, doc. Let’s just bend the curve a little.

    The curve was bent, crushed and obliterated. Now the goalpoasts are moved.

    Great.

  256. jason says:

    At this rate, Russia will soon be vying with the UK to see which country will come in second to the US in the number of cases.

  257. Phil says:

    “Fauci never proposed such a thing”

    Naw, he just wanted to bend the curve. So now that he’s bent the curve he wants to open things up. Right? Uh, nope. No sports for a year. All part of just bending the curve I guess.

  258. NYCmike says:

    “I could find dozens of posts where you blame the big bad RINOs in Congress for “making” poor helpless Trump sign their bills.”

    -LOL! You “could”, if they were there!

    I have always blamed Trump for signing the ridiculous spending bills given to him by Congress.

    In your world, does the President write the bills/budget by himself and simply sign it, or are there other actual branches of government in your made-up fantasy?

    Where does “legislation” come from, in your world?

  259. Phil says:

    Hey, Democrats have a new whistleblower.

    Here is my shocked face!

    Same playbook over and over and over.

  260. Tina says:

    Is the new whistleblowers fat like the other one?

  261. jason says:

    I read Fauci’s interview, and I think it is very different from the simplistic version Phil is giving here. It seems perfectly reasoned and nowhere does he say absolutely no sports for a year. He gives some ideas on what it would take to resume and he says he is working with the various leagues on ideas that could be tried.

    “Sports, in the end, are entertainment. How far down the line should they be in the country’s reopening? Do more essential businesses need to come first?

    I don’t think it’s either or. I think, clearly, essentially services are a high priority. No doubt about it. You don’t want the economy to completely crumble. But sports are important also for the well-being and the mental health of the country. So I don’t think you can say, “You go before I.” I think you can do some things simultaneously and you can do prioritizing some ahead of the other.

    Obviously professional sports are more equipped financially to come back. But there’s also high school sports and youth sports. How can they monitor all of the things you’re talking about?

    It’s still going to be the physical separation, where you might have teams playing essentially with no, or very physically separated, spectators. You could have a lottery. Instead of allowing 5,000 people into a high school or into a college gym if it holds 20,000 or 30,000, you do a considerably lower number if they’re physically separated. You wouldn’t do that now. You have to do that when the infection rate gets so low that when somebody does come up with infection, you can stop it from turning into an outbreak.”

  262. Tina says:

    Thank you Paulo 2.0

    d

    Phil Mattingly
    @Phil_Mattingly
    ·
    50m
    McConnell, re: additional Covid legislation, says Senate Rs are not “ruling that out, but we think a pause here” is necessary to see how the money goes out/bill is implemented

  263. NYCmike says:

    “Had the boys from Stanford advised him, Trump would have pulled a Sweden. We would have probably had around 300 to 400k deaths.”

    -Is this another projection from IHME, or wherever?

    Those projections haven’t been very accurate.

  264. Tina says:

    Looks like Fauci also went against the veep on disbanding the task force.

    Veeps say to disband it

    Fauci says no.

    They need to stop his interviews.

  265. dblaikie says:

    The one thing that is certain is that we cannot undo the past. If we had followed Sweden we would have sizable additional fatalities but we would be far better economically. What we can do now is to open up.

    Frankly I can’t believe how this has become a political issue? The stupidity of states like Oregon and Maine is stunning. They will turn reliable blue states into red if the numbers in states like Texas and Florida have no great spike in fatalities. They have made a bad bet!

    One more thing the best way to know that the Democrats don’t believe these polls is to read what Plouffe and Axelrod wrote about Biden needs to do to win. Those aren’t the words of confident people.

  266. Tina says:

    They need to do the following in phase 4

    Capital gain elimination

    Payroll tax cut.

    Infrastructure

    Limited liability protection,

    Surely, Mitchie and the gang can do it.

  267. Phil says:

    I’m not even advocating fans in the stadiums.

    But there needs to be sports and there isn’t a damned reason not to have them.

  268. NYCmike says:

    https://www.americanheritage.com/madisons-radical-agenda

    -Something different.

    By the way, Madison may have some ideas about Trump writing and signing his own bills into law……..jason, let me know what he says about that.

  269. jason says:

    About that “200k a day” forecast:

    Johns Hopkins issued its own statement following The Times report, saying the data results were preliminary and it was “not accurate to present them as forecasts.”

    “The information released in the leaked Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) slide deck published by The New York Times included preliminary analyses developed by researchers at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health,” the statement said. “These preliminary analyses were provided to FEMA to aid in scenario planning – not to be used as forecasts – and the version published is not a final version.

  270. Pitchaboy says:

    300 to 400k based on the numbers coming out of Sweden and transposed to our population. We will do worse than Sweden due to obesity, diabetes and nursing homes.

  271. Phil says:

    …but they got the 200,000 a day number to the NYT and out to the public and that was their objective.

    Mission accomplished.

  272. jason says:

    I certainly agree.

    But surely you agree contact sports present a risk even to the players, coaches, refs, staff, etc. Pointing that out would be Fauci’s job.

    Other people should decide on what risk level is acceptable.

  273. Pitchaboy says:

    NFL players will get antibody screening. They will have a rapid swab test and temperature done an hour or so before game. Then, GAME ON!

  274. Robbie says:

    I think, like many people in DC, Fauci became infatuated with the sound of his won voice. He’s done a whole lot of free lancing the last two months. As a result, he spread a lot of contradictory information.

  275. NYCmike says:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/05/exclusive-government-scientist-neil-ferguson-resigns-breaking/

    -I am sure they maintained social distancing……she must really know how to talk dirty!

    “Hey baby, I didn’t use soap…….you wanna lick my finger….?”

  276. NYCmike says:

    “I think, like many people in DC, Fauci became infatuated with the sound of his won voice.”

    -Who is this new guy??

    What a wonderful addition to HHR!

  277. Tina says:

    3000 attend movies over weekend at San Antonio movie chain. Additionally, oil is moving up.

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  278. lisab says:

    I don’t want an investigation. I want a coronation of Joe Biden. Would he make a great president? Unlikely. Would he make a good president? Good enough. Would he make a better president than the present occupant? Absolutely. I don’t want justice, whatever that may be. I want a win, the removal of Donald Trump from office, and Mr. Biden is our best chance.

    Suppose an investigation reveals damaging information concerning his relationship with Tara Reade or something else, and Mr. Biden loses the nomination to Senator Bernie Sanders or someone else with a minimal chance of defeating Mr. Trump. Should we really risk the possibility?

    Martin Tolchin

  279. Pitchaboy says:

    Jason is correct that Hinduism 20/20. Hindsight is what most of us non experts possess in a situation like this. Dr. Fauci was in a position where most physicians dream of being: the lead advisor in a once in a lifetime pandemic. We needed foresight from him. He could have hit a home run. Instead he hit a single. We are lucky he did not strike out.

  280. Pitchaboy says:

    Hindsight is, not Hinduism. Damn autocorrect

  281. jason says:

    I think Fauci hit at least a triple.

  282. jason says:

    think, like many people in DC, Fauci became infatuated with the sound of his won voice.”

    Zzzzz.. I doubt it.

    This guy doesn’t need any more accolades. He is more than accomplished. He didn’t even need to do this, at 79 I imagine he is doing it with a great deal of personal sacrifice and a for a profound sense of duty and patriotism.

    The idea that he is doing anything for personal aggrandizement is frankly ridiculous.

  283. Tgca says:

    Again, Fauci’s qualifications and education are not the issue here. It’s his communication! People expect politicians to say dumb things but not the medical experts.

    China and WHO misled him and he should have known better. The MSM is not his friend. They are using him but he gets suckered into answering gotcha questions. Dr. Birx is clearly more savvy in dealing with the MSM.

    If Fauci was in the private sector, they would remove him from the face of the public and keep him in the background. Anyone with half a brain that works in politics and Corporate America knows the MSM is looking to push a story over facts any day so you have to be on your guard at all times. I know all the Fortune 500 companies I have worked for make sure folks are trained to speak to the MSM before putting them out there because they can cause great reputational damage if they get suckered.

    Fauci is naive! Many equally qualified medical professionals could do his job and bring just as much credibility without the naïveté.

  284. Tgca says:

    295

    Agree with Pitch! Fauci hit a single at most. Nothing above that.

    I think he’s been a bureaucrat too long. Many very talented industry folks who can easily step in for him, if needed.

  285. NYCmike says:

    “I think Fauci hit at least a triple.”

    -And those pallets of cash never arrived in Iran because Corker……..

  286. NYCmike says:

    Let’s not forget, that under Fauci, the federal labs in charge of infectious disease were ordered to stop the work they were doing because of their shoddy workmanship, and then Fauci made a grant to the Chinese lab in Wuhan for them to continue the work.

  287. NYCmike says:

    https://www.city-journal.org/should-identity-politics-dictate-vaccine-research

    “The National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) are not taking the coronavirus epidemic seriously, to judge from their funding priorities. On April 20, those two agencies announced the availability of grants to increase the “diversity” of biomedical research labs. Academic virologists working on respiratory failure, say, could receive hundreds of thousands more taxpayer dollars if they could find a “diverse” student to add to the project. No scientific justification for the new diversity hire is needed; indeed, high school students are eligible, despite the virtual certainty that they will contribute nothing of value. To the contrary, such new hires will be a drag on any medical advance, since the scientists must pledge to mentor the students, taking time and attention away from their scientific research. Those mentees will be chosen not because of their science skills—they need present none—but because of their group’s underrepresentation in STEM.”

    -Read that paragraph.

    Fauci, in charge of the NIH, for how many years now, is at the head of an organization supposedly devoted to “health” but which has, as one of its priorities, increasing their “diversity”.

    Yup, no politics whatsoever.

  288. Country Dick Montana says:

    “State officials on Tuesday said coronavirus case numbers in care facilities and prisons will continue to be a part of a county’s total case count despite some calls for those numbers to excluded.

    Both Gov. Tom Wolf and Secretary of Health Dr. Rachel Levine said those cases are an important part of county totals, particularly as cases in those types of congregate living situations continue to rise locally and statewide.

    “Whether it is a long-term care facility, whether it is a correctional facility, whether it is a food processing or manufacturing facility – they are all part of the county,” Levine said during her daily press briefing. “They all have employees that work in those counties and live in those counties and could contribute to possible community spread in those counties.”

    This is why we can’t have nice things in PA.

  289. Country Dick Montana says:

    PA dug hard today and found 346 deaths. I am beginning to side with Phil. That 11% off all of their deaths and 18% higher than their previous high day. PA government workers can’t count, at least on the weekends.

  290. Country Dick Montana says:

    Over 2/3’s of all PA deaths in Philly Metro area. Less than 7% in Pittsburgh Metro. Let’s punish most of the state because of Philly

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  292. jason says:

    Looks like new cases will be really low today, only 21500 so far with few states to report.

    Deaths at +2123, but that includes over 250 deaths in PA from up to 2 weeks ago. PA is showing 362 deaths, but today’s count is 105. Also it is the third day in a row the cases in PA are less than 1000.

    Will compare with the model when final results in.

  293. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Fauci’s main distinction is being in the federal government so long. He knew how to be part of a bureaucracy in which you do not make waves. During the AIDS epidemic, he was competent, but did not particularly distinguish himself. Unfortunately government bureaucrats tend to be isolated from the real world, and do not understand economic issues.

  294. jason says:

    Fauci made a grant to the Chinese lab in Wuhan for them to continue the work”

    He used his own money?

  295. jason says:

    Unfortunately government bureaucrats tend to be isolated from the real world, and do not understand economic issues.”

    Fauci is not there for economic issues.

  296. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    May 5, 2020 at 5:54 pm
    Fauci’s main distinction is being in the federal government so long. He knew how to be part of a bureaucracy in which you do not make waves. During the AIDS epidemic, he was competent, but did not particularly distinguish himself. Unfortunately government bureaucrats tend to be isolated from the real world, and do not understand economic issues.

    – He’s 79 years old. He’s been riding the gravy train for quite some time.

  297. jason says:

    ut which has, as one of its priorities, increasing their “diversity”.”

    Horrors!

    How terrible!

  298. Phil says:

    Not only do they not understand economic issues they don’t care about them.

  299. Phil says:

    Fauci is not there for economic issues.

    Yeah, you can say that again.

  300. jason says:

    A dug hard today and found 346 deaths.”

    At least they admit they are spread over 2 weeks.

  301. jason says:

    I am glad that Trump is smarter than all the Fauci critics.

    He seems to understand he needs Fauci a heck of a lot more than Fauci needs him.

  302. PresidentPaul! says:

    Peak unemployment during great depression hit 24.9% vs what the Chicago Fed Economist estimate for April 2020 of 34%.

    Not to mention the differences in the way unemployment was calculated in the 30’s which included those not looking for work vs today that does not include this.

  303. Phil says:

    The ideal solution would be for NY, Pa, NJ, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Michigan, and Illinois to form their own nation. They could lock down forever and their elitist leaders could control every aspect of their citizens’ lives for all eternity. Perhaps make the authoritarian governor of Michigan their president. She’d be perfect. Make Fauci minister of health. Run it like China. No economic or political freedom. Of course the Yankees, Phillies, Giants, Lions, Patriots etc would all have to relocate to free America in order to ever play again but we in sane America would find a city for all of them.

  304. Country Dick Montana says:

    The ideal solution would be for NY, Pa, NJ, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Michigan, and Illinois to form their own nation.

    In PA it is said that outside of Philly, Harrisburg and the City of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is actually Alabama. I am sure the same can be said of Upstate NY, downstate IL and the UP of Michigan

  305. Phil says:

    322,

    Yeah, those people are trapped behind enemy lines. I feel sorry for them, but there is nothing we in free America can do for them. It’s unfortunate.

  306. pitchaboy says:

    It is becoming increasingly clear that this infection is an innercity and immediate suburban nightmare. Rest of the country is licked while these areas are bitten. Tale of two Americas. The strategy has to be tailored accordingly for opening.

  307. jason says:

    I think the task force has been brilliant, especially Pence, Fauci and Birx.

    It doesn’t mean that I think their views should always prevail.

    Trump has to balance their advice against what it means for the economy.

    Whether is doing that correctly or not is a different issue.

  308. jason says:

    “I feel sorry for them, but there is nothing we in free America can do for them.”

    Sniff, that really hurts.

    Of course, I think I am closer to living in free America here in Amishland than anyone in NYC, but each to his own.

  309. Phil says:

    Texas opens hair salons and barbershops Friday.

    Oh my God. Texans are going to die by the tens of thousands!

  310. Country Dick Montana says:

    Judging by the 100 2A sanctuary counties in VA, the Governor Blackface is really only the Governor of the DC suburbs, and maybe the college towns.

  311. Country Dick Montana says:

    “Tale of two Americas. The strategy has to be tailored accordingly for opening.”

    But that wouldn’t be FAIR. And FAIRNESS is what is important. DEMS love shared misery, because it is FAIR.

  312. Tgca says:

    Seems like it is nearly unanimous here. Fauci is an absolute failure and needs to be unmercifully punished. Fire his a$$ and send him off to a retirement home and let him manage COVID from there. That is my recommendation for this useless bureaucrat who has given bad advice from day 1 and is too stoopid and egotistical to realize the attention he gets from the MSM and Dems is not genuine but to use him as the useful idiot he is to get at Trump and the GOP.

    Hope that does not come across too harsh, as otherwise I have the utmost respect for this f&#$ POS!

  313. Phil says:

    OMG

    Trump thinking about closing down the Coronavirus task force as early as June.

    DOCTORS TERRIFIED OF THE DECISION headlines in Politico, the NYT, LA Times, Washington Post and in all the usual media suspects. What is worse.says sources is that Dr Fauci was not informed this was even under discussion. Not informed? I thought Trump needed Fauci’s OK.

    Who the hell does Trump think he is anyway? He’s going to do this when we are going to have ten times the daily new cases that we have now? I know that stat is true because I read it in the NYT.

  314. VictrC says:

    Get this. In California Los Angeles county has the same number of cases as the next 13 counties COMBINED. And no other county in California has more than 550 cases total.

    It also he more deaths by 30% than all the rest of California…COMBINED!!

    This is aa tale of two America’s as someone said above. We are letting a few places in the country dictate how the rest of it acts. ITS ABSURD

  315. Robbie says:

    It’s interesting how the US cases count always seems to grow by several thousand just before the cutoff for the day comes.

  316. Phil says:

    You and I know the answer to your question, Robbie. Because they have to keep those numbers up to justify locking down the economy.

    A particular shout out goes to Governor Wolf and his blue state bureaucratic pals in Pennsylvania for finding 360 deaths in a single day. Would have come in under 2000 dead for the third straight day if Pa hadn’t responded. High fives all around for Governor Wolf from Governor Cuomo and his blue state governor colleaugues. Nice work, guys!

  317. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    Tina & SDC
    If you were to bet, will CA CD-25 go to Republican Garcia or Democrat Smith next Tuesday?

  318. PresidentPaul! says:

    “Great Depression: 10 years
    Great Depression 2020: 19 trading days “

  319. Country Dick Montana says:

    OT – Is it just me or does the picture that Foxnews uses for MI Governor Wretched Gretchen have uncanny resemblance to the Caitlyn, formerly known as Bruce Jenner?

  320. jason says:

    At the moment the Chris Murray model is off as follows:

    Projected Actual
    May 1 2343 1897
    May 2 2276 1691
    May 3 2265 1153
    May 4 2205 1324
    May 5 2180 2321
    May 6 2143

  321. jason says:

    It should be the 5th day under 2k but PA saved the day.

  322. Tgca says:

    341

    It should be the 5th day?

    It is Papi!

    It’s Cinco de Mayo!

    Arriba! Arriba!

  323. Country Dick Montana says:

    2329 Deaths today, a 76% increase over yesterday. H/T to my home state of PA for the good work in getting those number up. But still a 6% decrease from last Tuesday. 11 of the last 14 days have seen decreases in deaths from the same day the previous week

    Rolling 7 Day Average Deaths

    4/20 – 2137
    4/21 – 2174
    4/22 – 2154
    4/23 – 2178
    4/24 – 2095
    4/25 – 2124
    4/26 – 2066
    4/27 – 1987
    4/28 – 1959
    4/29 – 1966
    4/30 – 1946
    5/01 – 1938
    5/02 – 1884
    5/03 – 1884
    5/04 – 1875
    5/05 – 1855

    Again, a steady decrease in deaths.

  324. jason says:

    We do have 4 straight days below 30k, 2 days below 25k cases.

    Will be interesting to see what the Chris Murray model update will shown considering that May 1 through 5 the actual death average is 1677 vs their average prediction of 2253.

  325. jason says:

    PA and NJ today were 30% of all deaths.

    PA+NJ+MA+NY 46%.

  326. Bitterlaw says:

    I am comforted by knowing that the lockdown in PA will end. Phil will stay have to live in Texas. I love history. Pennsylvania has Independence Hall, Gettysburg, Valley Forge, etc. Texas has the Alamo – best known for having its defenders massacred.

  327. Phil says:

    Ah, yes. The massacre at the Alamo…followed by the glorious victory at San Jacinto giving us our independence.

    BTW, if I remember my history, Valley Forge didn’t go a lot better than the Alamo.

  328. Bitterlaw says:

    The reason Texas joined the US was because it failed as an independent country.

  329. Bitterlaw says:

    How can Independence Hall ever hope to compete with…um…the Dr. Pepper Museum?

    To be fair, my family liked their trip to Texas. I stayed home.

  330. DW says:

    IPSOS – National Matchup – May 4-5

    Trump 41
    Biden 43

  331. Phil says:

    I had not heard that one, bitter and I taught Texas History in the public schools for twenty years.

  332. Phil says:

    Actually, my wife lived in the Philly area three years before I met her and she says she liked it.

  333. Bitterlaw says:

    I remember hearing it on the History Channel. Back when it had shows about history rather than fishing.

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  335. Phil says:

    Damn, a history video on Texas I didn’t show to my classes. I prided myself on showing every Texas History video I could get my hands on. I won the Cecil B Demille award at my school five years running.

  336. Phil says:

    Give it a rest Susy.

  337. Phil says:

    Newsflash – the number of new corona cases in China doubled overnight…..from one to two. No new deaths.

  338. PresidentPaul! says:

    Crazy never-Trumpers want to give Thomas and Ginsburg court seat to the bernie bros.

  339. Bitterlaw says:

    Looking back, I wish I had become a teacher. Too late now.

  340. Phil says:

    Funny. I tried to get into law school. After crashing and burning on my LSAT it was a no go. It seems there wasn’t a big demand in law schools for applicants scoring in the 23rd percentile.

  341. Bitterlaw says:

    Too bad, Phil. Some of the dumbest lawyers I know are very successful.

  342. PresidentPaul! says:

    Coronavirus infects more than 1,600 workers at four Iowa meatpacking plants

    https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/health/2020/05/05/coronavirus-infects-thousands-iowa-meatpacking-plant-workers-covid-19-waterloo-perry/5170796002/

    “That means that 58% of the workers who were tested at the plant had the virus, Deputy Public Health Department Director Sarah Reisetter said at the state’s daily news conference about the pandemic.”

  343. Cash Cow TM says:

    OK, so in November on election day, if we all vote for Biden (or whoever is the D candidate) will the rainbow appear and the country magically reopen?

    ***********************************
    Or will we have to wait until the D is inaugurated in January, 2021?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Or are we screwed and will be in perpetual lockdown for all eternity as the power hungry Dem controlled House, Senate and White House will use the CV-q19 to “remake Amerykka” into their imaginary never-never land, loony-toon utopia?

  344. jason says:

    PA Health Director:

    “Levine said it was promising that the numbers of new cases was lower over the last several days. The number of deaths does not represent the number of people who died in a 24 hour period. It is just when the data gets reported to the state.”

  345. jason says:

    he number of new corona cases in China doubled overnight…..from one to two”

    MSNBC Headline

    Trump proceeds with reopening despite 100% spike in cases in China shows second wave already here.

  346. jason says:

    I am too lazy to make margaritas to celebrate 5 de Mayo, just drinking straight tequila.

    Sue me.

  347. Robbie says:

    I have to give credit to Nate Silver for this, but I had not thought about the time frame for infection to test result like this.

    – The time from infection to symptoms is generally 5 days.

    – The time from symptoms to a test is another 5 days.

    – The time from test to result is 1 to 5 days.

    Effectively, that means the 24,5000 or so cases we saw announced today were most likely infected about 12-15 days ago. If true, then we’ve probably been declining nationally since April 20 or so, right? Theoretically, we could be in a far better place right now than we think if the decline is real.

  348. jason says:

    Well the 3 day moving average on April 24 was 35000. The 3 day moving average on May 4 was 25000.

  349. jan says:

    I’ve enjoyed reading pitchaboy’s comments. He make a lot of sense. I also agree with his opinion about Dr Fauci – that he was perfectly aligned to be a governing voice in a once in a life time event. Instead of hitting a home run, though, he hit a single. I’m personally glad the tsk force will be phased out.

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  351. jason says:

    Some of the details of that IPSO poll.

    “POLL-Biden’s edge evaporates as Trump seen as better suited for economy, coronavirus response
    Chris Kahn
    ReutersMay 5, 2020, 7:59 PM EDT

    By Chris Kahn

    NEW YORK, May 5 (Reuters) – Joe Biden’s advantage over President Donald Trump in popular support has eroded in recent weeks as the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee struggles for visibility with voters during the coronavirus pandemic, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Tuesday.

    The opinion poll conducted on Monday and Tuesday found that 43% of registered voters said they would support Biden in the Nov. 3 presidential election, while 41% said they would back Trump. That makes the contest essentially a toss-up, as the results are within the poll’s credibility interval.

    Biden led by 6 percentage points in a similar poll last week and by 8 points in a poll that ran April 15 to 21.

    The former vice president has been forced to run his presidential campaign from his Delaware home in keeping with restrictions aimed at combating the virus, which has killed more than 70,000 people in the United States and put 30 million people out of work.

    By contrast, Trump has put himself at the helm of the U.S. pandemic response, with regular White House briefings until recently.

    Some of Biden’s most dominant recent headlines focused on a former U.S. Senate aide’s allegation that he sexually assaulted her in 1993. Biden said last week the alleged assault “never happened” and asked the Senate to make public any documents related to the accusation by Tara Reade, who worked as a staff assistant in Biden’s Senate office from December 1992 to August 1993.

    The political impact of the situation was not yet clear in the Reuters/Ipsos poll, which showed 53% of the American public said they were “somewhat” or “very” familiar with Reade’s allegation.

    According to the poll, 45% of Americans said Trump was better suited to create jobs, while 32% said Biden was the better candidate for that. That pushed Trump’s advantage over Biden in terms of job creation to 13 points, compared with the Republican president’s 6-point edge in a similar poll that ran in mid-April.

    Thirty-seven percent said Trump was better leading the country’s coronavirus response, while 35% preferred Biden. A similar poll in mid-April showed Biden had a slight edge over Trump when it came to the nation’s response to the disease.”

  352. jason says:

    And Trump can thank Fauci for the fact he has some credibility on handling the coronavirus response.

    Due to this poll, I am moving Fauci up to home run from triple.

  353. Tina says:

    Pretty consistent stats for trump on who do you trust on the economy and jobs.

  354. BobbyBus says:

    New search engine. – 1000 000$

    The only personal property his wife owned were various stacks of garments she had purchased at Wal-Mart. There is hardly anyone I know who can create without money. Smurfing money furthermore known as structuring.

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  355. mRviTO says:

    Breaking911
    @Breaking911
    · 1h
    JOE BIDEN: “The pandemic is that this President has no intercourse whatsoever with the rest of the world.”

  356. Scooterboy says:

    378. Lol……what a disaster.

  357. lisab says:

    “The pandemic is that this President has no intercourse whatsoever with the rest of the world.”
    —————-

    well … melania

  358. Melania T. says:

    Somebody help me please

  359. SusyQue says:

    We need your help! Ruth Ginsberg is still in the hospital. This is a prayer request for all American Christians who love freedom and hate socialism! May she pass soon. Amen.

    Please SHARE this post with all true PATRIOTS!

    Dear Hedgehogreport.com, we need your prayers. Please pray for our country and our one President Donald J. Trump. I stand with President Donald J. Trump!

  360. Phil says:

    382

    Just stop it.

  361. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    382. So American Christians should pray that someone should die because they disagree with them regarding legal theory. Where in the New Testament did you get this idea from?

  362. VictrC says:

    SDC and Phil. That is a parody account meant to make Christians and Conservatives look bad.

    It’s done by one of teh left wing trolls who think Christians are just hicks, Ignore.

  363. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    “NEW YORK (Reuters) – Joe Biden’s advantage over President Donald Trump in popular support has eroded in recent weeks as the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee struggles for visibility with voters during the coronavirus pandemic, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Tuesday.
    The opinion poll conducted on Monday and Tuesday found that 43% of registered voters said they would support Biden in the Nov. 3 presidential election, while 41% said they would back Trump. That makes the contest essentially a toss-up, as the results are within the poll’s credibility interval.
    Biden led by 6 percentage points in a similar poll last week and by 8 points in a poll that ran April 15 to 21.”

  364. Country Dick Montana says:

    I see that worldometers has added a 7 day moving average (after ditching the useless 3 day average) to their graphs. Wonder what took them so long. CDM has been doing that for weeks.

  365. PresidentPaul! says:

    It’s just Bernie bros being like hell no to Biden when someone calls them.

    But once they have to choose between Trump and Biden most of them will probably go back to Biden (although not all just like Hillary lost a good bit)

  366. DW says:

    Change Research now has it…

    Trump 44
    Biden 47

  367. jason says:

    I think Bunu should marry SusyQue as long as they were both castrated.

  368. jason says:

    Russia seems to have plateaued around 10k cases a day for the last 3 days.

  369. DW says:

    now…Civiqs

    Trump 44
    Biden 47

  370. Scooterboy says:

    According to James O’ Keene on Twitter. This was posted yesterday.

    Tomorrow is going to be a big day. Expect big reactions from “The Powers That Be” #COVID #ExposeCBS ExposeCBS.com

  371. Scooterboy says:

    CBS News This Morning’ Aired Faked COVID-19 Drive-Through Testing Site Line of Cars

    https://www.projectveritas.com/news/cbs-news-this-morning-aired-faked-covid-19-drive-through-testing-site-line/

  372. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    #395-DW

    now…The Economist/ YouGov PID D+5

    Trump 42%
    Biden 46%

  373. jason says:

    The drive-thru testing facility near me closed down. The first couple weeks there was a line of cars, but the last couple weeks hardly any.

  374. jason says:

    Delaware to open curbside on Friday. But how do you buy “used merchandise” curbside.

    Retailers allowed to reopen Friday include:

    Clothing stores
    Shoe stores
    Sporting goods, hobby, musical instruments
    Book, periodical, music stores
    Department stores
    Tobacco and vape stores
    Other general merchandise stores
    Office supply, stationery, and gift stores
    Used merchandise stores
    Consumer goods rental

  375. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    now… Rasmussen(less)

    Trump Approval- 49%
    Trump Disapproval-49%

  376. dblaikie says:

    At RCP the average of betting sites puts Trump at +8.2 over Biden. Quite a difference from these polls. The people who are actually putting money down on this race must have a different idea of the state of the race than Ipsos or YouGov.

  377. jason says:

    Too bad… I think she would be a great pick.

    “No one takes Stacey seriously. And her public campaigning for the job seems more like a hostage negotiation than an actual attempt to get the job,” a Biden insider told The Post. “Biden is an old school guy and will always be. Picking Stacey would be like picking [Sarah] Palin. He doesn’t need to throw a Hail Mary. He wants a good governing partner.”

    Internally, her star has fallen with the onset of the coronavirus as concerns grow about her preparedness.

    “Stacey isn’t ready on day one. Even she knows that and it’s why she’s engaging in this dance. She might get perfunctorily better, but she’s not a serious pick for him. And her campaign is viewed as much as promotion for her book as it is for being chosen as Biden’s VP,” the insider continued, referring to Abrams’ forthcoming book “Our Time Is Now.”

  378. dblaikie says:

    We have heard nothing but that the virus will come back this Fall even stronger. Part of the campaign to scare Americans. However now a new study out of the University of Arizona has found evidence that the virus is muting and weakening just like Sars. That should send chills down the spines of the poor people stricken with TDS. Here is a link to the study: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/early-research-indicates-the-coronavirus-has-mutated-similar-to-sars-2020-05-05

  379. jason says:

    Don’t put too much stock on betting sites. Like polls, they are a snapshot of the moment, they are not predictive.

    Most of the bets there are not long term, people try to make money on the ups and downs as impacted by current events.

    At one point on Predicitit, Bloomberg was like a 60% favorite to win the nomination. Bernie too.

  380. dblaikie says:

    In further bad news for people who want to instill panic and fear Israel claims that it’s Institution of Biological Research has a had a big breakthrough by isolating an anti-body to treat Covid. Probably won’t make the news so I will provide you with a link:https://www.forbes.com/sites/sethcohen/2020/05/05/israel-just-announced-a-major-coronavirus-antibody-breakthrough-heres-why-thats-reason-to-be-optimistic/#7ce6e2215ba4

  381. dblaikie says:

    Jason no argument from me. I don’t claim that betting sites are accurate, anymore than these polls. But I do prefer them because they are not trying to drive an anti Trump narrative, they are just people trying to make some money. So in that sense, for me, they give a more accurate snap shot.

  382. jason says:

    Viruses do mutate, and sometimes the mutate to more dangerous rather than less dangerous strains.

    And even though the MSM is discarding the notion, the anecdotal evidence seems to bear out the idea that hot humid weather lessens the spread.

    Otherwise, some of these countries in the tropics would have a lot more cases. Everyone says well it just didn’t get to Africa yet, and that might be true, a lot of African countries did not have a lot of air travel into them before they shut them down.

    Nigeria has 3k cases, 100 deaths. You would think a populous, poor, crowded, ill equipped country like that would be overrun by now.

  383. dblaikie says:

    For Ras to make that big a jump with in a moving average shows that they must have changed their voter model.

  384. jason says:

    I have been hearing about various “breakthroughs” in Israel since all this started.

    I hope one of them actually happens. I get the feeling some of them so far have been more to get free media exposure to some of the companies there.

  385. Tina says:

    This is unethical that the Cn and n “reporter” is even interviewing his bro. And no questions about the subway and nursing homes.

    Christopher C. Cuomo
    @ChrisCuomo
    · 11h
    You’re feeling pretty good about yourself these days, aren’t you @NYGovCuomo ?

  386. dblaikie says:

    Yes Jason I have read about those “breakthroughs” too. That is why I linked the article from Forbes which I believe, hopefully, puts an extra veneer of credibility to the news.

  387. Tina says:

    The venthoarder has dodged this question for weeks.

    Imagine if it were Trump. I am sure Acosted would not be silent

    https://nypost.com/2020/05/05/this-nursing-home-disaster-is-on-you-gov-cuomo-goodwin/

  388. Tina says:

    We are now tops in The China Virus recoveries

    navirus total recoveries by country:

    USA Flag of United States – 190,000
    Germany Flag of Germany – 137,400
    Spain Flag of Spain – 123,500
    Italy Flag of Italy – 85,200
    Iran Flag of Iran – 80,500
    China Flag of China – 78,800
    Turkey Flag of Turkey- 73,200

    (source
    @JohnsHopkins
    )

  389. Cash Cow TM says:

    Remember the old TV show “Lost”?

    I used to watch taped versions of it out in the barn during milking.

    Anyway…on that show there was some guy who sat at a computer all day and every so many minutes would have to type in a series of numbers due to fear that if they did not, terrible things would happen and the island would implode.

    And it turned out all that typing of numbers didn’t really matter.

    ****************************
    Fast forward to today’s NATIONAL lockdown due to fears of CV-19.

  390. NYCmike says:

    https://www.thecollegefix.com/professor-sues-university-for-defamation-retaliation-in-response-to-his-pro-israel-views/

    -I hope this professor gets million$ from Depaul University.

    This cr*p has to stop! And the students littering in those videos should be fined and made to clean up after themselves! Especially the fat protesters.

  391. NYCmike says:

    NY Times running stories about the Wuhan spiking in rural communities with a relaxation of social distancing requirements.

    Has anyone seen evidence of this? Are any medical facilities being overrun in rural areas?

  392. jason says:

    PA _+888 cases and +94 deaths.

    Fourth day in row under 1000 cases.

  393. jason says:

    The MSM is hilarious.

    If a location had 10 deaths yesterday and reopened yesterday, and there are 12 deaths today, the headline reads “big spike in deaths after reopening”!

  394. jason says:

    We are now tops in The China Virus recoveries

    navirus total recoveries by country:

    USA Flag of United States – 190,000″

    Tina, this is grossly understated. Many states like PA don’t report recoveries.

    Since we have been getting 20k+ cases a day for weeks now and at least 95% survive, we are probably “recovering” people at this same rate, but it doesn’t get reported.

    We probably have closer to 400k recovered, not 200k.

  395. jason says:

    If Israel comes up with a cure or a vaccine, Bunu will be here telling us to boycott it.

  396. Tina says:

    Jason, I agree it’s understated.

    We have the best medical in the world.

  397. Robbie says:

    Which blue state governor will come in at the wire and deliver a cache of deaths and cases to boost the totals so the press can cheer?

  398. NYCmike says:

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/05/03/coronavirus-still-with-us-be-patient-save-lives-mitch-albom/3074299001/

    -I wonder if Mitch Albom would give up 1/2 his salary to support others who are out of work, while he pontificates from home about the dangers of opening up the economy.

  399. NYCmike says:

    In Mitch’s world, fear of bankruptcy is not allowed, but fear of the Wuhan virus MUST be heard!

  400. NYCmike says:

    https://www.pix11.com/news/coronavirus/health-workers-that-volunteered-to-come-to-ny-during-pandemic-have-to-pay-state-income-tax-cuomo

    -Phil,

    I’ll sacrifice for you and keep this a-hole in NY, so he can’t f*ck up more than 1 state!

  401. NYCmike says:

    https://alphanewsmn.com/barber-walz-shutdowns/

    -I will investigate a little more, but if this story is true, I’ll make a small donation to this guy.

  402. Robbie says:

    Andrew Cuomo announced the death toll in New York would probably be revised upward because coronavirus was probably here in late 2019.

    When some of us suggested this early on, we were mocked by the holier than though press and told to shut up.

    And somehow, we survived December, January, and February without a soul crushing lockdown. Open the country now.

  403. NYCmike says:

    Faux-Robbie,

    Stop this now!

    What did you do to the Mayor of Pogo Loco?

    Have you no shame, man?

  404. Tina says:

    Wtf?

    Retweeted

    Matt Wolking (Text TRUMP to 88022)
    @MattWolking
    ·
    16m
    Joe Biden: “I’ve done some dumb things. I’ll do dumb things again.”

  405. NYCmike says:

    #433 – he ain’t lying!

  406. jason says:

    Which blue state governor will come in at the wire and deliver a cache of deaths and cases to boost the totals so the press can cheer?”

    That will depend on whose turn it is to step up.

    NY and NJ have unimpressive numbers so far that will not help the cause. We know PA won’t be much help either.

    So the responsibility is going to lie heavily on MI and IL and maybe VA, CT and LA.

  407. jason says:

    Ok, I confess.

    I stole Robbie’s handle while he was in quarantine in Bogo Pogo and have been trying to rehabilitate him ever since.

    How am I doing.

  408. Chicon says:

    436 – this is a relief, if true.

  409. Phil says:

    My guess is Illinois comes in big today. Their time to step up. Their governor is a real dick.

    My prediction is they find a huge stash of bodies even if they are make believe. Governor Tyrant out of Michigan will also contribute heavily. She will be holding back numbers unti much later to see what they need. Sort of how Mayor Daley used to do with phantom Cook County votes on election nights.

  410. DW says:

    NEVADA – ALG Research*

    Trump 45
    Biden 49

    APR 27-30, 2020

    763 LVs

  411. Robbie says:

    What I find interesting is some can’t see that it’s possible to separate my views about Trump from how the media is covering coronavirus.

    Do I think Trump has been particularly good during this crisis? Nope, but I also don’t think he’s been awful. I think his daily press conferences in April were detrimental to him. People want numbers, useful info, and optimism. Not battles with the press.

    Regardless, none of that has anything to do with the press or governors who clearly want to exploit this tragedy for their own gain. They want to create a sense of panic to drive ratings. They think they know better than you or I do.

    I wish at the start Trump had had more credibility with the public and been able to provide context about what coronavirus was and wasn’t. Even when he tried, his message got lost in his sparring with the press.

    I’m pulling for Trump right now, though. If he succeeds, the country succeeds and we get our lives back. If he can announce a threptic that works close to 90% or better or a vaccine by late September, it will be a game changer for his reelection chances and the country.

  412. Robbie says:

    An absolutely brutal takedown of the code written by Neil Ferguson of Imperial College. His model sent the world into lockdown.

    “Conclusions. All papers based on this code should be retracted immediately.”

    https://t.co/Fdubul9vYs?amp=1

  413. NYCmike says:

    “What I find interesting is some can’t see that it’s possible to separate my views about Trump from how the media is covering coronavirus.”

    -Ridiculous.

    ANY Republican would have been treated like this, and any Democratic President would be calling for more lockdowns, of which you say you are opposed to.

    The simple fact is that you are willing to have a Democratic President because you personally don’t like Trump, as opposed to not liking the majority of his policies.

  414. Jason says:

    I suck cheesy dicks and I like them.

  415. NYCmike says:

    #445 – cheddar cheese or parmigiana?

  416. Tina says:

    Boom

    Benny
    @bennyjohnson
    · 7m
    Gov. DeSantis on PPE: “China had known what was going on; they specifically bought up a lot of this stuff, really to try to screw over the rest of the world, which they’re going to need to pay for doing that.”

  417. Tina says:

    Somebody needs to arrest this Russian hoaxer.

    Sidney Powell ?????
    @SidneyPowell1
    · 1h
    The liar and leaker #AdamSchiff is now hiding evidence and obstructing justice to protect himself.
    https://justthenews.com/accountability/russia-and-ukraine-scandals/adam-schiff-may-be-biggest-loser-russia-probe…
    @realDonaldTrump
    @jsolomonReports
    @Techno_Fog
    If any of the transcripts he is hiding discuss @GenFlynn, it is likely Brady evidence & must be produced now

  418. Country Dick Montana says:

    https://triblive.com/local/regional/rats-are-eating-each-other-in-pittsburgh-amid-waste-shortage-caused-by-coronavirus-closures/

    There is a silver lining to the shutdown.

    Of course Wolf and other blue state governors would be wise to consider this quote from the article:

    “Hunger and lack of food sources will cause any mammal to “lose it,” he said.”

  419. Country Dick Montana says:

    https://triblive.com/news/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-set-to-hire-civilians-to-ramp-up-coronavirus-contact-tracing/

    “The group, called the Commonwealth Civilian Coronavirus Corps, will “serve as a public service program that will expand our ability to conduct contact tracing and testing and mobilize Pennsylvanians to contain covid-19,” Wolf said.”

    More government employee union dues for Wolfie. I bet that they will have really cool uniforms with a cool insignia and salute.

  420. DW says:

    Breaking:

    The Pennsylvania Governor’s office has announced that a full review of all the Battle of Gettysburg casualties cannot fully rule out the cause of death being Covid-19, so these will be added to the daily numbers.

  421. jason says:

    We are in real trouble with the case number today. With only NY of the heavy hitters to report the count is only at 17000.

    I hear they have put in a call to the Navajo Nation but the best they could do was 85 cases. Northern Marianas could only muster 1 case.

    All hopes are with NY, VA and LA now or it could be a debacle.

  422. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    May 6, 2020 at 4:57 pm
    We are in real trouble with the case number today. With only NY of the heavy hitters to report the count is only at 17000.
    I hear they have put in a call to the Navajo Nation but the best they could do was 85 cases. Northern Marianas could only muster 1 case.
    All hopes are with NY, VA and LA now or it could be a debacle.

    – I suspect a number of states are holding a cache of positives in their back pockets to dole out when necessary.

  423. George says:

    Kayleigh hits it out of the park again. You go girl!

  424. Phil says:

    New York has not reported. They are good for three thousand cases easy, Jason. They will be able to improve on yesterday’s case numbers easily.

    Always remember they control the statistics. The blues will get their numbers – every time.

  425. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    May 6, 2020 at 5:12 pm
    New York has not reported. They are good for three thousand cases easy, Jason. They will be able to improve on yesterday’s case numbers easily.
    Always remember they control the statistics. The blues will get their numbers – every time.

    – It’s like waiting for Chicago to report once it knows how many votes the Democrat needs to win.

  426. Cash Cow TM says:

    Sung to the tune of
    “We Gotta Sink The Bismark”

    *********************************
    In January twenty-twenty
    Pres. campaign had just begun
    Trump the R in white house sat
    Three years ago he won.

    Biden (D) the creepiest dude
    You would ever see
    He groped and fondled little girls
    And shook them like a tree

    Out of the cold and foggy night
    Came the virus from Wuhan
    And every TDS liberal fool
    Got it in his head
    We gotta crash the economy
    And politically Trump is dead.

    We found a nasty China virus
    That’ll create quite a fuss
    We gotta use it to sink Trump
    For us libs it is a must.

    So close the country, crash the stocks
    Corona invades us like a Hun
    Crash the economy, win the GE
    And then we’’ have some fun.

    We found a way to beat ol’ Trump
    We’ll lock the country down
    So what if we also have
    To drive our economy in the ground.

    We’ll close things down and drive unemployment
    Numbers through the roof
    And Joe Biden cruises in
    Even though he is a goof.

  427. Country Dick Montana says:

    Gotta love them old Johnny Horton Songs. Can you do one for Battle of New Orleans or North to Alaska?

  428. Phil says:

    Robbie, yep, just like 1960 when Daley delayed Cook County vote dump until 6:00 the next morning. Waited until all the Republican down state votes were in to see how many votes Kennedy needed to carry Illinois – then, presto. Just enough votes “appeared” to give Kennedy the presidency.

    Same Democratic playbook except now we get to see it on display daily.

  429. jason says:

    Three thousand won’t help, they need like 6500 to get to 25k, let alone the goal of 30k.

    They still have VA, CO and WA in reserve, but they only got about 1300 combined yesterday out of those 3.

    CNN and MSNBC have called, and they are saying “you want the headlines, we need the numbers”.

  430. jason says:

    The PA health director yesterday used the IHME model as a reason not to reopen, because it predicted 8k deaths in PA by August.’

    Funny she never wanted to reopen when the original IHME model showed PA virtually at zero cases by May 1.

  431. jason says:

    Cuomo says most cases now are people who are sheltering at home.

    If that is the case then why are we sheltering at home.

  432. Cash Cow TM says:

    (By Request)

    SUNG TO THE TUNE OF BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS
    *****************************************
    On January fourteen
    I took a little trip
    and in Wuhan I musta caught
    what I though was just the ‘grippe’

    We rushed the stores
    and cleared the shelves
    of TP, bread and beans
    Then others caught the bloody virus
    Down in New Orleans…

    We wore our masks
    but the virus kept a coming
    Even twice as many cases
    as there were a while ago.
    We closed our schools
    and we all began to running
    But everything was closed
    we had no-place to go.

    We looked across the ocean
    and we seen the virus come
    Felling ‘talians by the thousands
    MSM was beating on the drums
    Media hype so high
    “You’ll all die soon” they sing
    Trump stood by Dr. Fauci
    And then he said some things….

    Well…we….
    closed our stores
    And the virus kept a coming
    More ‘n more CV cases than there was the day before.
    We closed more stores
    and retreat in isolation
    Watch TV about the virus
    and the Spanish flu lore.

    Old Trump, he said
    it won’t take us by surprise
    He banned Chicom air flights
    Told them to kiss his thighs.
    We heard about death models
    that made us poop our pants.
    And then we watched the ultra right
    rant and give their chants.

    Yeah, CV ran through the cities
    and it ran through the suburbs
    and it ran through the country
    Where rabbits run fast to and froe
    It ran so fast Birx and Fauci couldn’t stop it
    From sea to shining sea to the Gulf of Mexico.

    We practiced social distance
    ’til our patience it wore down
    Restaurants were closed and bars were too
    So we couldn’t buy a round.

    Everybody got laid off
    and turned to D.C. for some aid.
    Pelosi said that at Trump’s feet
    the blame can sure be laid.

    (chorus)

  433. Robbie says:

    Cuomo must be hunting for a big batch of cases since NY hasn’t posted yet.

  434. jason says:

    LOL

    NY came up with 500 deaths at the last minute to save the day.

    These deaths have nothing to do with today, which was only like 230.

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  435. Robbie says:

    I was right. Cuomo came in under the wire with 3300 cases to boost the nationwide total to 25,000.

    Anyone who doesn’t think blue state governors are gaming the system hasn’t been paying attention.

  436. Ron N says:

    You can make this shot up if you are Cuomo he is god just listen to MSN and liberals. My guess is more nursing home death so no question will be asked. To bad this wasn’t happening in FL or the MSN would do a investigation.

  437. Country Dick Montana says:

    466 – CC you have a hit on your hands. Find a band and make a video of that one!!!

  438. Country Dick Montana says:

    NY is just flat BS now and Trump or someone needs to call them out on it. Add 500 in one day.

  439. Country Dick Montana says:

    NY is a disaster. Feds should just close it off for the good of the country and flat our call Cuomo and idiot mayor for what they are…totally incompetent. Only with our MSM is the guy who is presiding over 1/3 of the death in the entire country considered Presidential material. If NY was its own country it would have the worst deaths per million BY FAR of anywhere in the world (San marino doesn’t count, landlocked City/State in Italy population 30,000)

  440. Country Dick Montana says:

    474- There should be indictments for those actions.

  441. NYCmike says:

    “Kayleigh hits it out of the park again. You go girl!”

    -Now that I saw the clip, I agree wholeheartedly.

    Of course, “People want numbers, useful info, and optimism. Not battles with the press.”

    Robbie, should she have allowed the media to get away with carrying on their narrative, or should she (and the whole Trump administration) respond in kind, to make sure they don’t allow what happened to the Bush Administration in 2005-08??

    I say Great Job! to her, as the media seems to be an agent of the CCP, as well as the Democratic Party.

  442. NYCmike says:

    “474- There should be indictments for those actions.”

    -Agreed.

    Cuomo and Deblasio have been terrible the more that comes to light.

  443. jason says:

    But even the 25k cases is not much consolation for the lockdown forever crowd.

    It is 25k new cases on 1.25 million total cases which is a 2% increase.

    Two week ago we had 39k cases on 800k total cases, an increase of almost 5%.

    The curve is flattening despite the creative accounting.

    It is the 5th day in a row under 30k so the 7 day average continues to go down.

  444. Country Dick Montana says:

    Barr should announce a federal investigation. Cll it a civil rights case, because all of those dead seniors certainly lost theirs.

    This has to be made big enough that the MSM can’t possibly ignore it.

  445. Country Dick Montana says:

    Even with NY shenanigans, the rolling 7 day has only moderate damage.

    Rolling 7 Day Average Deaths

    4/20 – 2137
    4/21 – 2174
    4/22 – 2154
    4/23 – 2178
    4/24 – 2095
    4/25 – 2124
    4/26 – 2066
    4/27 – 1987
    4/28 – 1959
    4/29 – 1966
    4/30 – 1946
    5/01 – 1938
    5/02 – 1884
    5/03 – 1884
    5/04 – 1875
    5/05 – 1858
    5/06 – 1878

  446. lisab says:

    I’m pulling for Trump right now, though. If he succeeds, the country succeeds and we get our lives back.
    —————————–

    translation: flight attendants are not getting paid these days

  447. Phil says:

    I’m done with NY. We’re supposed to close the whole country because of NY’s BS? Cuomo and Deblasio’s incompetence? Add to that the constant juicing of numbers by blue states, NY today being the most flagrant example.

    Seriously, folks. Enough is enough. It’s time the rest of the country just open up and live our lives. Use common sense but open up. The media is using these blue states, especially New York as justification to take down the rest of the United States economy. I’ve had enough and more and more are coming around to my way of thinking every day.

    Today was the last straw for me. Seriously, if blue states want to wallow in their economic misery indefinitely let em. Shut down forever for all I care. Oh, and they better not expect the rest of us to bail them out economically. The responsible red states have huge holes in our budgets as well because of the shutdowns over the last six weeks – shut downs initiated by what has gone on in NY, NJ etc.

    Screw NY.

  448. Phil says:

    …and another thing. I’m sick of the BS coming out of the elitist blue states ragging on the rest of us for opening up. They can stick their holier than thou lectures up their collective asses. I’m getting a haircut Friday and I don’t care if it hair lips any of the blue state elitists pointing fingers at Texans, South Dakotans, Arkansas, or any of the rest of us who refuse to buy into this BS kill the economy road they want us all on.

    Wallow in it NY, but the rest of us are done with you and your sorry ass game – and that’s what it is – a game.

  449. Scooterboy says:

    Civiiqs Poll

    Opinion of Donald Trump:
    Favorable 43% (-12)
    Unfavorable 55%

    Opinion of Biden:
    Favorable 34% (-22)
    Unfavorable 56%
    _______
    2016 Exit Polls

    Opinion of Trump:
    Favorable 38% (-22)
    Unfavorable 60%

    Opinion of Clinton:
    Favorable 43% (-12)
    Unfavorable 55%

  450. Cash Cow TM says:

    Phil,

    My friend “Yan Bleevabil” in NY tell me that tomorrow Cuomo plans to add the 146 dead from the 1911 Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire to the coronavirus deaths since had they not died in the fire or from jumping out of windows, they probably would have died from the CV-19.

    Same with the dead from various plane crashes in th past in NY state.

  451. Cash Cow TM says:

    Maybe Trump ought to build a wall around NY?

  452. Phil says:

    No wall.

    Nuke it. It’s the only way to be sure.

  453. Bitterlaw says:

    You seem to be incapable of grasping a simple fact. You act like there was an election and people voted to shut down the economy in places like NY, NJ, PA…We did not choose this. Nobody saw this coming.

    By the way, is that salon owner in Dallas still in jail for opening her salon during the shutdown? How could such a thing happen your wonderful Texas?

  454. Phil says:

    Jason, China figures in. China has apparently plateaued at two cases. Two nights in a row. Up from one case two days ago. No deaths of course.

  455. Phil says:

    Don’t start in on me tonight, bitter.

    Not in the mood.

  456. Bitterlaw says:

    If I am responsible for the shutdown because I live in PA, then Phil is responsible for illegal immigration because he lives in a state that shares a border with Mexico.

  457. Phil says:

    As far as the woman sentenced to seven days in jail by the Democratic judge, in case you haven’t heard our AG and Abbott ripped him.

    Your governor would have thrown the guy a ticker tape parade. That’s the difference.

  458. Bitterlaw says:

    She’s still in jail, right? I guess the tough talk from a Texas Republican is just talk.

    I did not vote for Wolf. You suffer from Wes Syndrome that causes him to blame me for every New Jersey politician even though I have not voted in New Jersey since 1990.

  459. Victrc says:

    Bitter, with all due respect, the rest of the country is paying a deadly price economically because of NY, Philly, Boston and Detroit (with an assist from LA)

    They account for the majority of deaths, the majority of cases, and are the ones (and the media located in those places) keeping the rest of America locked up. And whenever someone tries to come out from under this lockdown in order to ensure that people can work, pay their bills, feed their kids, they are marginalized, attacked and berated.

    Everyone knows that the lockdowns are nothing more than the latest ploy to gain power. Win the Presidency, win the Senate and enact Liberal policies.

    Americans have had enough of being dictated to by the Northest (AND IM A NY-er Born and bred). Enough is enough.

    I think that is the point that Phil is trying to make

    As for the poor woman who was just trying to feed her kids, the judge is a racist democrat who released criminals from jail so they wouldn’t get COVID yet jailed this woman. Why do you think that is?? Democrat. Minority. Sending a message to Trump and his supporters.

    Abbott should pardon her immediately and I suspect he will.

  460. Phil says:

    One other thing about the lady in jail. The judge also hit her with a $7000 fine. Our Lt. Governor Dan Patrick just announced he is personally covering it….so a little more than “just tough talk from a Texas Republican”

  461. Bitterlaw says:

    Please find a post where I supported shutting down the country or jailing that woman. I will wait. It will be a very long wait.

  462. MichiganGuy says:

    Kristin Cavallari divorcing ‘lazy’ Jay Cutler because he was ‘unmotivated’
    .
    https://pagesix.com/2020/05/06/kristin-cavallari-jay-cutler-split-a-result-of-his-refusal-to-get-a-job/?_ga=2.95918364.1616255743.1588323515-1342795989.1588323515
    .
    There’s no way I will ever believe the greatest Quarterback in NFL history is lazy!

  463. mRviTO says:

    The Lt Gov also offered to serve the woman’s sentence.

  464. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    May 6, 2020 at 9:52 pm
    She’s still in jail, right? I guess the tough talk from a Texas Republican is just talk.

    I did not vote for Wolf. You suffer from Wes Syndrome that causes him to blame me for every New Jersey politician even though I have not voted in New Jersey since 1990.

    Well, Bitter, when you can’t extol your loathing for Southern accents enough but refuse to criticize New Jersey for knowingly electing a corrupt child rapist to the Senate you pretty much earn the treatment I give you.

  465. lisab says:

    i need a hair cut urgently! …

  466. Phil says:

    Lisa, you sound like my wife over the last two or three wks.

  467. MichiganGuy says:

    Donald Trump Jr. offers to walk woman down wedding aisle after liberal parents’ snub
    .
    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/may/6/donald-trump-jr-offers-to-walk-woman-down-wedding-/
    .
    Phil, don’t be an a-hole and help the girl out. 🙂

  468. PresidentPaul! says:

    Lots of credit card changes under way if anyone is interested
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nEihOY5nJ8

  469. lisab says:

    Lisa, you sound like my wife over the last two or three wks.
    ——————

    it is urgent!

    stylist 1: what are her vitals?!
    stylist 2: her hair is dry and frizzy
    stylist 1: damn it, i told them not to close the spas
    stylist 2: she ha split ends!!!
    stylist 1: we are losing her … hot oil … stat!

  470. Bitterlaw says:

    Wes – Did you condemn slavery as evil yet? You know I wanted Menendez to lose AND go to prison.

  471. Wes says:

    You still haven’t condemned New Jersey or Menenddz, Bitter. You say that because it’s easy to say when I call you on it.

    You readily tell us you hate Southern accents. You don’t readily tell us you hate New Jersey’s odious senior Senator.

    Why exactly is that?

  472. Country Dick Montana says:

    Fighting the civil war again?

    I grew up and have lived most of my life in the TX, OK and LA. Being in SW PA is just because of my area of expertise and when I retire its back to the ranch.

    As Ben Stiller said. The North won, the South got Lynyrd Skynyrd. So we have that going for us.

  473. Country Dick Montana says:

    “Civil war dudes… You guys are brothers, for God’s sake… You gotta stop fighting… North wins… Slavery is bad… Sorry… Don’t want to burst your bubble but South, you guys get Allman Brothers …and… Nascar. So just chill!”

  474. jason says:

    Ok dammit, Bitter gets a mother lode of points for being responsible both for the shutdowns AND the corruption in New Jersey.

    I don’t care how many times I get called La Raza Pimp today, it is a lost cause.

  475. jason says:

    Speaking of being called La Raza Pimp, where is “Trump”?

    Not that I miss him.

  476. jason says:

    Country Dick, we regularly “re-fight” the Civil War here.

    I mean, some people object when I say Sherman was right to burn down Atlanta.

  477. jason says:

    Bitter being responsible for the shutdowns and the corruption in New Jersey really sucks.

    After being called a “Confederate and slave owner wannabee” by Roadkill Maggot I thought I was the clear points leader at least until June.

  478. Phil says:

    Jason, I’m calling off our bet. After watching what the blue states are doing with their numbers (see yesterday in NY) you never had a chance. It’s not a fair fight, and I don’t want to win that way.

    Will buy you a margarita anyway if you ever get down here to Texas. As far as the A-Holes, I’ll just take my chances on my own with the membership committee.

  479. jason says:

    Thanks Phil, but I doubt by May 15 it will be 1800 a day, it is more likely neither of us will win.

    Let’s see how it plays out.

  480. Country Dick Montana says:

    A little analysis shows that 8 of the top 10 in deaths/million are all northeast/I95 states. The top 4 are NY, NJ, CT, MA. Then 7-10 are DC, RI, PA and MD. 18% of the US population and 64% of the deaths. 790 deaths per million. If they are their own country they would be the worst in the world.

  481. Phil says:

    Ah yes, Jason. Judge Lena Hidalgo. Piece of work. Just elected county judge in Harris County. Radical Democrat. Originally proclaimed that any Houston resident who didn’t wear a mask would be fined a thousand bucks. The governor shut that down real quick, but that tells you all you need to know about her. She’s a loon as is the county judge in Dallas county (he’s just as radical) – also in Dallas County you have the hack judge that put the salon owner in jail.

    How did these moonbats get elected in Texas? Simple. Demographics. Dallas and Houston are now way over half minority. Totally changed since you lived down here. Fortunately, the state remains red although Dallas, Houston, San Antonio, Austin, and El Pasoare rapidly becoming Philly.

    Illegal immigration, something the Bushes and guys like Robbie like to poo poo has changed the lay of the land even in Texas – to go along with California, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico – and even to a lesser extent in states as far away as Georgia, Virginia and other states as well.

    A blue curtain is descending. Dallas and Houston are exhibit A….hence we get Lena Hidalgos that wouldn’t even sniff office ten years ago.

  482. jason says:

    Phil, sounds like a good argument to bring legal Hispanics to the Republican Party.

  483. Phil says:

    521

    Resentment is building down here as people continue to see the numbers out of the blue states in the NE….something I didn’t see the first three or four weeks of all this.

  484. Country Dick Montana says:

    One of the most disappointing things to me is the cops. I always saw them on the side of the people. I am not so sure anymore going along with arresting people for trying to run a business. Just following orders doesn’t cut it.

  485. Phil says:

    Great theory, Jason…but how do you out Raza Unida Democrats? You can’t. Democrats now playing the race card with Hispanics just like they have with blacks. Why? Because it works.

    The Democratic message is that if you are not in favor of open borders you are racist. Even Robbie (who claims to be a Republican) regularly all but calls me a racist. Why? Because I favor border security. Close the border? Why, you obviously hate Mexicans. Imagine how that argument actually plays with Hispanics? It works.

  486. jason says:

    Phil, West Virginia was a solid Dem state.

    Bill Clinton beat Bob Dole there in 1996 by almost 100k votes.

    It went for a Boston ultra-liberal like Dukakis in 1988.

    The idea that ANY demographic/regional/ethnic group cannot be convinced to switch parties is not borne out anywhere in the history of this country.

  487. Country Dick Montana says:

    sounds like a good argument to bring legal Hispanics to the Republican Party

    Always thought that we Republicans missed the boat on this one. I work with a lot of them given my business and geography. Most are religiously conservative and most work very hard, and are the last people to be looking for a handout.

  488. jason says:

    One of the most disappointing things to me is the cops. I always saw them on the side of the people. I am not so sure anymore going along with arresting people for trying to run a business. Just following orders doesn’t cut it.”

    Well, the problem is the leadership.

    Left wing mayors dominate the cities, and they appoint left wing police chiefs. The rank and file would have to rebel and lose their jobs, no doubt some do.

    Everything is on camera now, remember.

  489. jason says:

    Always thought that we Republicans missed the boat on this one. I work with a lot of them given my business and geography. Most are religiously conservative and most work very hard, and are the last people to be looking for a handout.”

    Yep, and that is why I am critical of the “we are winning” on immigration crowd.

    We are not winning, and people who think we are by not having comprehensive immigration reform will be suddenly surprised when we do get open borders and citizenship and voting rights for all illegals.

  490. Phil says:

    There is West Virginia. That is true…….but then there is California. Moonbat gone forever, California. Home to Ronald Reagan. Reliably Republican in Presidential elections 1968-1988. Gone. Demographics.

    Joe Manchin says hi, BTW.

  491. dblaikie says:

    I believe we are going through a transition that if continued will be terrible for the Democratic Party. When this unfortunate chapter in our history began most Americans viewed the guidance and stay at home orders as needed and helpful. And so we put our jobs and our freedom on hold and empowered our Government both locally and nationally.

    However as Lord Acton states, “power corrupts”. Because of that many of our Governors have moved from being seen as helpful to being oppressive. Unfortunately for the Dems this appears to be a blue state phenomenon. The people, even suburban women, will not tolerate it for long. They will express their anger at the ballot box.

    Keep your eye on Georgia and Florida. Both Governors took big heat and derision. But if there is no huge spike in Covid cases in their states it is going to start a huge fire in the country against those who want to keep America locked up.

  492. DW says:

    At least Biden isn’t Al Gore. Gore would have claimed that he not only campaigned in 1918, but that he was responsible for winning WWI.

  493. DW says:

    Rasmussen Trump Job Approval

    49/48

  494. Phil says:

    Comprehensive Immigration sounds good….until you realize it includes a path to citizenship (let’s face it. That’s all about a path to voting). Democrats absolutely love that one – for obvious reasons.

    So Republicans face a stark choice. Stop the illegal flow of immigration or give in and let them become citizens and vote for Democrats.

    Welcome to lose lose.

  495. jason says:

    I guess Roadkill Maggot won’t be mentioning RAS anymore.

  496. Phil says:

    Oh, and don’t kid yourself. Democrats will never agree to outlaw catch and release, and voting rights for illegals that suddenly become citizens.

    Chuck Schumer would just laugh at us if those two little items were included in any comprehensive immigration bill.

  497. jason says:

    Comprehensive Immigration sounds good….until you realize it includes a path to citizenship (let’s face it. That’s all about a path to voting). Democrats absolutely love that one – for obvious reasons.

    So Republicans face a stark choice. Stop the illegal flow of immigration or give in and let them become citizens and vote for Democrats.

    Welcome to lose lose.”

    That is why it is better to strike a deal now. You can offer a path to citizenship but stretch it out so when they eventually gain citizenship they will be more vested in society than they are now.. many will be small business owners by then.

    What is wrong in your premise is the “vote for Democrats”. That does not have to be a given. But if Republicans just let the Dems fulfill their agenda, no doubt that WILL happen.

  498. jason says:

    Chuck Schumer would just laugh at us if those two little items were included in any comprehensive immigration bill.”

    Well, we could have had a much better deal, I agree.

    But remember, NYC was here calling Rubio a RINO traitor for even shaking hands with Schumer (but it was ok for Trump to fund Schumer for decades, no problem there).

    By doing nothing, now the Dems pretty much are just one election away from fully implementing citizenship and voting rights for illegals and virtual open borders.

    But remember, WE ARE WINNING!

  499. Chicon says:

    Phil, California proves Jason’s point – things change in politics. The deep south was always Democrat back in the day. Now, not so much.

  500. Phil says:

    Not opposed to an immigration deal….but you are dealing with snakes on the other side of the aisle. Call me, uh, skeptical you will ever get Pelosi and Schumer to deal in any kind of good faith.

  501. Phil says:

    …and I agree, Democrats are indeed just one election away from enacting their entire radical agenda. Not just immigration but across the board. It’s bleak.

  502. Country Dick Montana says:

    “It’s bleak.”

    It is just a matter of time. I stated before that if on 1/20/2021 Dems are in control, I retire and become part of the problem. If people will be paid not to work, then why work. Welcome to food shortages and power outages.

    My kids will have to go through some awful, possible even violent times, but as I told them, that will be their fight. Of course when that starts, those in power will request the UN/Chinese come and police the country.

    “Atlas Shrugged” was a silly book, poorly written with awful characters. It also seems to be pretty much on the mark.

  503. DW says:

    I tell some people that, you know, we are one election away from Democrats outlawing homeschooling. The reply is usually denial, “Oh they would never do that!” and the suggestion is made that I am too conspiratorial, etc.

    But here’s how it works:

    1. Dem elected president.
    2. Dem president appoints a fellow communist to Secretary of Education
    3. Secretary of Education issues a new rule that if you wish to home-school, you will be required to hire a full-time proctor who will certify examinations and do all the record-keeping and complex new reporting requirements issued by same Department of Education.
    4. Home-schoolers give up because they cannot afford to pay the bills along with paying a full-time employee.

    Done. Homeschooling effectively banned.

  504. dblaikie says:

    So much negativity today! You know folks you could argue the other way. We are one election away from making the Supreme Court Conservative for at least 20 years and transforming the Judiciary across the land.

    But either way you want to go — positively or negatively — this all leads up to the most point: elections matter.

  505. jason says:

    Not only homeschooling. Charter schools too.

  506. dblaikie says:

    the most important point

  507. Phil says:

    543

    Yep

  508. jason says:

    Sorry dblaikie, a conservative Scotus could delay the complete nanny state for awhile, but unless we find a way to reverse the way kids and college students are being educated the nanny state is inevitable.

    Look at the polling. People want the nanny state, they want the government to make decisions for them, they are willing to sacrifice their individual liberties in exchange for “social benefits”.

    My kids don’t. But many of their peer do.

  509. Country Dick Montana says:

    https://triblive.com/news/pennsylvania/gov-wolf-signs-order-granting-civil-immunity-to-health-care-providers-during-covid-19-pandemic/

    This is the problem. While I totally agree with the results here, I disagree with the process. This is legislation by fiat. If the Governor can order this, he can order anything.

  510. DW says:

    549 – yes, they want the nanny state, and they have a well-taught entitlement mentality. They are entitled to be provided for, and its only evil, greedy, racist, hate-filled Republicans who are trying to stop the government from giving everyone everything they are entitled to receive.

  511. dblaikie says:

    Not going to argue with you Jason but I can’t help but be a hopeful person. Like I said in the above post perhaps as this pandemic plays out and these big government people try to hold on to power that is oppressive that may bring it own kind of education. As for our kids I hope Churchill’s observation is true, “If you are young and not liberal, you have no heart. If you are old and not conservative, you have no brain.”

  512. Phil says:

    Control of the MSM

    Control of the education system – not just universities but K-12

    Demographic trends

    Bleak. Trump’s surprise election delayed the inevitable transformation of America. Maybe, and it’s a big maybe, we can delay it one more election cycle – but that’s it.

    As the song says, California here we come.

  513. Country Dick Montana says:

    Interesting poll in Ras about Comey and whether or not laws were broken to keep Trump from becoming President. What is interesting is NOT that 63% of Republicans think senior government officials broke the law, but even 39% of Dems and 43% of independents believe that.

  514. jason says:

    Russia over 11k cases today now more than France and Germany. At this rate in 2 weeks they will overtake the UK, Spain and Italy

    They either have a very mild strain of the virus or they are lying about the mortality.

    They claim to have 180k cases but only 1625 deaths, no other major country comes even close to 0.9% mortality.

  515. jason says:

    I should say more total cases than France and Germany.

  516. jason says:

    Not going to argue with you Jason but I can’t help but be a hopeful person. ”

    I believe in hope when there are reasons to hope.

  517. Country Dick Montana says:

    Hope is not a strategy.

  518. Phil says:

    Well, the Chinese have actually reported a doubling of their number of cases over two days ago. Massive percentage increase there.

  519. DW says:

    “Hope is not a strategy.”

    Don’t tell never-Trumpers. I know someone in 2016 who wrote in Jeb Bush in the general election hoping that God would somehow use it to stop both Trump and Hillary.

    There is a quip that comes to mind from an old John Wayne western: “Faith can move mountains…but it can’t beat a faster draw.”

  520. jason says:

    “If you are young and not liberal, you have no heart. If you are old and not conservative, you have no brain.”

    Maybe, but I was never a liberal. Of course, I didn’t grow up in America so it would be hard to compare with someone who did, the society I grew up in was very different.

    I have become more liberal on issues like gay marriage and abortion, but I can’t really think of any issues where I have become more conservative.

  521. jason says:

    Don’t tell never-Trumpers. I know someone in 2016 who wrote in Jeb Bush in the general election hoping that God would somehow use it to stop both Trump and Hillary.”

    What a moron. Jeb?

    In 2016 I was all in for Daffy Duck.

  522. jason says:

    Faith can move mountains…but it can’t beat a faster draw.”

    Reminds me of one of my favorite movie scenes of all time.

    In an Indiana Jones movie, some guy with a sword jumps in front of Indiana Jones and threatens him with a great show of sword handling prowess. Indiana Jones watches for a moment, then with a disdainful look pulls out a big gun and shoots the swordsman.

  523. jason says:

    Good.

    “The Supreme Court threw out fraud convictions on Thursday against two New Jersey officials involved in the “Bridgegate” political scandal, the George Washington Bridge traffic jam that rocked the administration of then-Gov. Chris Christie.
    Writing for a unanimous court, Justice Elena Kagan said that “for no reason” other than “political payback” the aides “used deception” to cut access lanes from Fort Lee, New Jersey, to the bridge.
    The move “jeopardized the safety of the town’s residents,” Kagan wrote, but concluded that “not every corrupt act by state or local officials is a federal crime.”
    The ruling is the latest example of the court narrowing the type of conduct by public officials that can be considered fraud under federal law.

    Christie’s aides argued that they were wrongly convicted and that prosecutors overreached when they charged them under various federal fraud statutes.

    Kagan added that the aides scheme did not aim to obtain money or property, and therefore they could not have violated wire fraud laws.”

  524. jason says:

    Bridgegate was always a mountain out a molehill type of case. The “crime” was basically closing a couple lanes on a bridge for a few hours.

    In this case it was “political payback” but let’s say the traffic jam was caused by another reason later discovered to be bogus. Someone closed down an exit somewhere because he wanted his uncle’s funeral procession to flow more smoothly.

    Would it be a federal crime?

    The real political payback here was charging all these people and trying (successfully) to derail Christie’s presidential campaign.

  525. jason says:

    What is interesting is NOT that 63% of Republicans think”

    What is scary is that 37% of Rs don’t think the law was broken?

  526. Country Dick Montana says:

    https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-llama-treatment-study-20200506-p3gzj7scyjasvpu4uzhsxtxcne-story.html

    Belgian llama could help with coronavirus treatment, study says

    Anyone have any expertise in this matter?

  527. jason says:

    You rannnnngggggggg?

  528. Cash Cow TM says:

    By Request

    SUNG TO THE TUNE OF “NORTH TO ALASKA”
    **************************************
    Are you sick…then, wear a MASK-ah…
    Are you NOT…still, wear your MASK-ah…
    Always wear a MASK-ah, even if you stay at home.

    Big Fred caught the Wuhan
    —he was ninety-two
    The CV got George Skinner
    and his sister Peggy Sue.
    They crossed over the East River
    to New York City—so bold
    And spread the corona virus
    to everyone there we’re told.

    Fred went down to the WalMart
    In the valley far below
    He sneezed on a clerk at the checkout
    coughed on a lawn guy as he mowed
    With the virus now a running wild
    In the land where old glory flew
    Unwittingly Fred was a carrier
    And sickened two thousand and two.

    Where corona is spreadin’,
    and everyone’s dreadin’
    Please, wear your MASK-ah–
    the pandemic, it is on.

    If you’re sick—wear a MASK-ah;
    if you’re NOT—wear a MASK-ah
    ALWAYS wear a MASK-ah
    even if you’re all alone.

    Fred talked to Sam,
    and then he shook Sam’s hand
    Said Sam “Fred, you look like
    a very healthy man.
    But the CV virus a-spreading
    throughout this frightened land
    Now I have to sanitize my face
    and my big old fat right hand.

    Cause a guy needs his good health
    –worth far more than a dime
    Social isolate and shelter in place
    should be practiced all the time.
    Gotta go ransack the grocery shelves
    To stock up on ‘basic needs’
    No job, no pay, now unemployed—
    Mortgage unpaid, can’t even buy seeds.

    Now the virus is a spreadin’
    and everyone’s dreadin’
    PLEASE—wear your MASK-ah,
    the pandemic it is on.”

  529. DW says:

    When Biden campaigned in 1918 for senate, he was hoping to win and use it to get enough national attention to run against Warren Harding in 1920. But the real goal was to be able to run for president in 100 consecutive years of presidential elections, culminating in 2020.

  530. Country Dick Montana says:

    https://triblive.com/local/regional/pennsylvania-reports-jump-of-310-coronavirus-deaths-as-it-continues-to-catch-up-with-data/

    The 310 new deaths, which occurred over the course of several weeks rather than one day, brings the statewide death toll to 3,416.

    She has also said the department is not including probable deaths in its official count. Probable deaths are those in which an individual had symptoms of the virus, close contact with a confirmed case and covid-19 is included on their death certificate but they were never tested for the virus.

    Probable death numbers have not been included in the state numbers for weeks. Confirmed covid-19 deaths are those of individuals who tested positive and died from the virus.

  531. Country Dick Montana says:

    571 – The sad thing is many people here probably don’t know a thing about Johnny Horton or the great songs that he sang. He also married Hank Williams widow.

  532. jason says:

    Yep, Worldometer already has PA at +225 for today when actually it is at most half of that.

  533. jason says:

    Stacey Abrams thinks it would be a disservice to all young women of color if she didn’t try to become VP.

    “My responsibility is not to question what journalists think is a valid question, but to answer for the audience that they’re speaking to. And as a woman, as a person of color, as a woman of color, it is my responsibility to answer honestly and forthrightly. And if the question is about whether I am competent and qualified for the job, my answer must be unequivocal, because I’m not simply speaking for myself. I’m also speaking to that young woman of color who is thinking about what is in her future. And if I deny her, and deny myself, then I’m doing a disservice to women, to communities of color, and to any disadvantaged community that does not see themselves as the face of leadership.”

  534. jason says:

    “The coronavirus crisis in Philadelphia is getting “better in several ways,” Health Commissioner Thomas Farley said Thursday as he reported a drop in new cases of the virus, cases in the city’s prisons and nursing homes, and hospitalizations.

    The slowing of new cases is “picking up speed,” Farley said, as he reported 350 new confirmed cases of COVID-19.

    The city’s jails were in their fourth day in a row of no new cases, Farley said, with 23 inmates currently testing positive.

    Farley said the number of deaths reported per day are also on a downward trend, with 13 new deaths confirmed to be caused by the coronavirus in the past day. A total of 816 Philadelphians have died of COVID-19 since the beginning of the pandemic, he said.

    The number of patients hospitalized with the virus was 10% lower Thursday than it was at its peak, Farley said. As of Thursday, 911 patients with the virus were hospitalized in Philadelphia, and 1,677 were hospitalized in Southeastern Pennsylvania, Farley said.”

  535. Phil says:

    Good information coming out of Philly. Too bad none of that will ever be reflected in the top line daily numbers. Wolf and company have an agenda and the and the numbers will be shaped to fit the agenda.

  536. Phil says:

    …..and the Texas Supreme Court has ordered the release of the salon owner.

  537. Phil says:

    …..and the Texas Supreme Court has ordered the release of the salon owner.

    Yes, that’s how it is done.

  538. Chicon says:

    And in Philly, they boo Mike Schmidt and throw snowballs at Santa.

  539. VictrC says:

    What Pelosi is asking for in her latest bill, which will be more than $2.5T more

    * Money for mandatory national mail in voting in November
    * $2000 a month per individual for illegal immigrants and $1000 per kid
    * $4B for the Met in NYC (It has a $3.6B endowment)
    *$10.5B for the arts
    * Money for Broadway
    * Money for expanding Broadband access
    * Billions for the Post Office
    * More money for unemployment benefits that pay more than working
    * Guaranteed Federal Paycheck for all
    * Guaranteed reduced working hours for all those returning to work
    * Forgive $30,000 per person in Student Debt
    * Ban all rental payments for one years
    * Release Criminals from Jail to protect them from COVID
    * Expand Paid Sick Leave by businesses and take away any hardship exemption from businesses
    * Ban voter ID
    * same day voter registration in all states

    And the kicker

    $1T for the states and cities – want to guess which?? Hint..BLUE

  540. mRviTO says:

    RBG just blasted the ninth circuit in another opinion for ruling a case based on third party briefs they solicited on a question they manufactured, rather than the actual arguments made before the court.

  541. dblaikie says:

    558 Sorry but that was a silly post. Of course hope is not a strategy! Hope is a state of the soul and heart. Having hope is an act of faith. For me, call me stupid, is that the ultimate power in this cosmos of ours is not humanity, praise God. My hope is grounded not in a false liberalism that was discredited over century ago argued that humanity was good and would usher in utopia. The Socialists and Communists believe still in that nonsense.

    My hope is grounded in the fact that God is in charge. And because of that, like Martin Luther King claims, “The arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice.”

  542. NYCmike says:

    ““Atlas Shrugged” was a silly book, poorly written with awful characters. It also seems to be pretty much on the mark.”

    -Yes.

    Read this book about 10 years ago……I could have substituted names from the pages of the NY Times, as the administrative state apparatchiks who were being interviewed were saying the same exact things as what was said in book.

  543. Tina says:

    Corrupt prosecute van crack removed from all cases. Not sure if he is thrown out the door.

    He framed General Flynn.

  544. Tina says:

    CNBC- change poll

    Trump +3(48 to 45) over China Biden

    Approval 49%

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/14AxOfpIzQKU3Uedq2D6tMovRFQCcnjPE/view

  545. wvally says:

    https://twitter.com/natesilver538/status/1258404881347510272?s=21

    Not providing context on the increase in testing is such a basic error, and has been so widespread, that it’s revealing about the media’s goals. It’s more interested in telling plausibly-true stories (“narratives”) that sound smart to its audience than in accuracy/truth per se.

    ***
    Kudos to Nate Silver for his intellectual honesty, and calling out the media for pushing misleading narratives. I know jason’s been pointing this out.

    He’s getting push back from his lib followers:

    Nate, there’s clamoring for accuracy, and then there’s accusations that toe right up to the line of “fake news.”

    I’ve lost a LOT of respect for you over the course of this pandemic, and I know I’m not alone. I’ve tried to bite my tongue, but I just can’t any more.

  546. Tina says:

    BOOOOOOOM

    rt Retweeted

    Julie Pace
    @jpaceDC
    ·
    6m
    BREAKING……WASHINGTON (AP) — Justice Department is dropping criminal case against ex-Trump adviser Flynn, according to court filing obtained by AP.

  547. Tina says:

    I told you they have to drop the case for a long time

    Missing original 302

    Falsified 302 by Pete the cheat, mistress, McCabe

    Illegal targeting and entrapment by Comedy (civil rights violation

    Illegal phone intercept

    Corrupt Fib leaders after Flynn because he testify against McCabe.

  548. Tina says:

    The commie and the penguin and Obama after Flynn for telling the obumbler that his ISIS STRATEGY sucked.

  549. Tina says:

    Hope Flynn can sue the gubment and r3covery damages.

    He also needs to sue Eric Holder/Covington law firm.

    https://apnews.com/ae1ad252bb13490db2ceffc5d17b6d92?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP

  550. Tina says:

    They are opening fire really soon.

    Saagar Enjeti
    @esaagar
    · 9m
    “Senior Republicans have been polling possible lines of attack against Biden. They say his relationship with China, his son’s dealings with Ukraine, and his oversight of the 2009 financial crisis are some of the most potent avenues.” https://politico.com/news/2020/05/07/trump-campaign-to-unload-on-biden-with-negative-ad-onslaught-242976

  551. Tina says:

    I knew trump would not need to pardon Flynn,

    The case would be tossed by the Doj or by the judge.

  552. Tina says:

    Jebots crushed

    In court documents being filed Thursday, the Justice Department said it is dropping the case “after a considered review of all the facts and circumstances of this case, including newly discovered and disclosed information.” The documents were obtained by The Associated Press.

    The Justice Department said it had concluded that Flynn’s interview by the FBI was “untethered to, and unjustified by, the FBI’s counterintelligence investigation into Mr. Flynn” and that the interview on January 24, 2017 was “conducted without any legitimate investigative basis.”

    The U.S. attorney reviewing the Flynn case, Jeff Jensen, recommended the move to Attorney General William Barr last week and formalized the recommendation in a document this week.

    “Through the course of my review of General Flynn’s case, I concluded the proper and just course was to dismiss the case,” Jensen said in a statement. “I briefed Attorney General Barr on my findings, advised him on these conclusions, and he agreed.”

  553. Tina says:

    Shem Horne Retweeted

    Catherine Herridge
    @CBS_Herridge
    ·
    1m
    #FLYNN Court Docs “The United States of America hereby moves to dismiss with prejudice the criminal information filed against Michael T Flynn pursuant to federal rule of criminal procedure 48(a)…”
    @CBSNews

    @ClareHymes22

  554. wvally says:

    The libs in the MSM threads are completely dumbfounded re:Flynn. Has the MSM not been reporting this case falling apart over the last 2 weeks? I would assume so but don’t really know, I haven’t watched them in years.

    Do any hedgehoggers ever watch MSM?

  555. mRviTO says:

    Thanks, NYC.

    ……………….
    NYTimes

    Travel From New York City Seeded Wave of U.S. Outbreaks

    The coronavirus outbreak in New York City became the primary source of infections around the United States, researchers have found.

  556. BayernFan says:

    Lol no red siren

    I bet page strok and maybe Comey will be inducted.

  557. NYCmike says:

    “Thanks, NYC.”

    -Yup, being the center of the universe sometimes has its drawbacks!

  558. NYCmike says:

    Mr Vito,

    My wife’s good friend moved down to St Augustine area last year. Wife was just on a Zoom call with her and other friends. The friend who moved down to St Augustine was all tan, very relaxed, going out every day.

  559. wvally says:

    DOJ: Interview by FBI agents of @GenFlynn “conducted without any legitimate investigative basis”

    @Comey: “I sent them”

    https://twitter.com/johnwhuber/status/1258468837017759744?s=21

  560. Tina says:

    Steven Portnoy
    @stevenportnoy
    · 39m
    In Oval, Trump suggests he was not aware DOJ would move to dismiss Flynn’s case today, but “felt it was going to happen.”

    Per pooler @awzurcher, Trump says: “I hope a lot of people are going to pay a big price. They’re scum.”

  561. Tina says:

    The jebots are queued

    (((Rep. Nadler)))
    @RepJerryNadler
    · 24m
    This is outrageous!

    Flynn PLEADED GUILTY to lying to investigators. The evidence against him is overwhelming. Now, a politicized DOJ is dropping the case.

    The decision to overrule the special counsel is without precedent and warrants an immediate explanation.

    1/2 https://twitter.com/politico/status/1258470974330155010

  562. Chicon says:

    Awesome news for Flynn and America. Just delicious to see the socialists go nuts.

  563. Tina says:

    The doj filing hits comedy, mccabe, Pete the cheat, and the mistress hard.

    What a disaster for them.

  564. Chicon says:

    Tina, hopefully the criminal justice system hits them hard, too.

  565. mRviTO says:

    There really should be an investigation into the investigation of the investigation. I suggest the investigators investigate how they are being investigated.

  566. mRviTO says:

    Megyn Kelly has interviewed Tara Reade. There are clips online.

  567. PresidentPaul! says:

    The problem with Ayn Rand and Atlas shrugged is she was a big government totalitarian\militarist. yet she frames her beliefs in libertarian rhetoric.

  568. PresidentPaul! says:

    Essentially a neoconservative before the term even existed.

  569. Tina says:

    Yup, mistress called Pete the cheat a poor writer.

    tweeted

    Margot Cleveland
    @ProfMJCleveland
    ·
    7m
    Another point re the DOJ’s motion: The summary they provide of the interview and
    @GenFlynn
    responses proves
    @SidneyPowell1
    was accurate in explaining how the 302 was re-written in material ways to make Flynn say something he didn’t.

  570. mnw says:

    Tina

    I knew Jeff Jensen when we were both state prosecutors, although we were never employed in the same federal office at the same time.

    I always liked him, & I hope he gets a judgeship out of this eventually– assuming he wants that.

    What a great day! Long overdue!

    Roll the stone away. Let the guilty pay. It’s Independence Day.

    I’m celebrating by making yet another online contribution to Mr. Orange.

  571. Tina says:

    Mnw, can the judge throw a monkey wrench into this?

    I presume when doj dismissses, Judge backs down.

    It’s ovah.

  572. VictrC says:

    Gov Pritzker – IL – D has just announced that churches will not be allowed to have services with more than 50 people until there is a vaccine or elimination of cases over a sustained period of time.

    So no Church if there isn’t a vaccine that’s being given out, or there are 0 cases for an extended period.

    I imagine that will be challenged.

  573. NYCmike says:

    Pritzker shouldn’t be allowed to have dessert until there is a vaccine.

  574. Tina says:

    Pritzker is a prick.

  575. NYCmike says:

    Why is it that Flynn pleaded guilty to anything?

  576. Tina says:

    He pleaded because they threatened his kid whose wife had a newborn son at the time.

  577. DW says:

    621 – these morons have no concept at all about matters of faith and religion. He obviously thinks church is stupid, and therefore totally optional. And so here is his chance to prove it.

    There will be push back.

  578. Tina says:

    Mnw, I guess the judge will sign off? Crazy so many motions and filings

    Darren Samuelsohn
    @dsamuelsohn
    ·
    5m
    Flynn’s lawyers file a motion withdrawing all of his current motions in the case, including his own request to withdraw his guilty plea.

  579. Tina says:

    We are getting closer and closer to the Obumbler on the Flynn. Pretty clear, Obama hatched this one.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1258490130211442690/photo/1

  580. Big Joe says:

    Well folks, the NASDAQ is in positive territory for the year. Big tech is where it’s at.

    Big Joe

  581. jason says:

    I bet page strok and maybe Comey will be inducted.”

    Hall of shame?

  582. Tina says:

    Breaking

    “De Niro: Cuomo Is a ‘Very Capable Backup’ If ‘Something Would Change’ with Biden, ‘God Forbid’

  583. Phil says:

    1992 deaths. Set to cross 2000 any moment. Should end with about 2200 or so by the end of the day although a big late blue state dump is always a distinct possibility. Could hit 25000 again and wouldn’t bet against it.

    The blue ribbon today goes to Cuomo and Wolf. The two came up big. Congrats especially to Wolf. He’s really stepped up his game of late providing steady high numbers which he’s produced from God only knows where. Pennsylvania has become a solid source of dead people. You poor people (who are left) will live in a dead economy forever along with the other blue states. You may as well forget about ever opening up. It just won’t be allowed.

  584. Tina says:

    M.Joseph Sheppard
    @SHEPMJS
    ·
    2h
    YouGov; “Do you believe Biden assaulted Reade” Yes 30% No 28% Dont Know 42%

    Satisfied with his denial
    Women No 50% Men No 49%
    Joe has a problem

  585. Robbie says:

    I see the blue states are dumping their cache of cases and deaths into the mix today. Disgusting.

  586. Phil says:

    Joe will only remain the nominee if his poll numbers vs Trump hold up. That’s all he’s got. Slippage there (and he’s beginning to see some) and it’s so long Joe. The battleground Poll released today showing him trailing Trump by three pts in swing states isn’t exactly good news for him. The higher ups no doubt are monitoring the polling very closely.

  587. dblaikie says:

    Here is the best response to stupid, putrid, power hungry Governor Pritzker:

    “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

  588. Phil says:

    Robbie, I don’t mind if they juice their numbers and never open their blue states up but those numbers are affecting people in Kentucky and Texas because their numbers influence overall policy and keep the policy of perpetual lockdown in place. That hurts those of us in places that don’t have a problem.

  589. Tina says:

    Last two head to head

    Biden. Up 3 (you gov)

    Trump up 3. (CNBC-change)

    Disastrous weeks for China Biden.

    Falling asleep while Queen B was endorsing him, does not help and the disastrous interview with Mika Scarfarce surely did not help.

  590. Phil says:

    Trump has clearly helped himself by not being on tv fighting the press 7 days a week. Helping his poll numbers.

  591. Pitchaboy says:

    The Rs should leave Biden alone. He will be beaten like an old mule in November. You don’t want the guy replaced by, say, Klobuchar. This guy will lose bigly to DJT.

  592. Phil says:

    2100 deaths with another hour or so to go.

  593. Tina says:

    None of these are valid justIfications of the coup plotters:

    Undercover Huber
    @JohnWHuber
    · 3h
    Here’s the 2 page “justification” for opening a full CI case against a 30 year combat veteran, general and former Director of an intelligence agency

    1. Foreign policy advisor to Trump
    2. Unspecified “ties” to “various” “state-affiliated” entities of Russia
    3. Travelled to Russia

  594. Tina says:

    Matt Fountain
    @MattFountain1
    · 1h
    Exclusive: Court docs from 1996 show @ReadeAlexandra told ex-husband about sexual harassment in @JoeBiden’s Senate office. Story @SLOTribune https://sanluisobispo.com/news/politics-government/article242527331.html

  595. Tina says:

    The Russian hoaxers:

    Brooke Singman
    @BrookeSingman
    ·
    15m
    NEW:
    @brhodes
    when asked whether he had evidence of collusion, conspiracy,coordination btwn Trump camp & #Russia:
    “I saw indications of potential coordination, but I did not see, you know, the specific evidence of the actions of the Trump campaign”- per House Intel transcript
    26
    143
    280

    Brooke Singman
    @BrookeSingman
    ·
    19m
    NEW: Former AG Loretta Lynch was asked whether she had evidence of collusion, coordination or conspiracy.
    She said that she did “not recall that being briefed up to me.”
    “I can’t say that it existed or not,” Lynch said,according to House Intel #Russia transcripts #LorettaLynch
    7
    63
    81

    Brooke Singman
    @BrookeSingman
    ·
    41m
    NEW:
    @AmbassadorRice
    when asked whether she had evidence of collusion, conspiracy, coordination: ““I don’t recall intel or evidence to that effect,” House Intel #Russia transcript shows
    10
    127
    149

    Brooke Singman
    @BrookeSingman
    ·
    42m
    NEW:
    @SamanthaJPower
    , when asked if she had evidence of collusion,coordination, conspiracy btwn Trump camp & Russians:“I am not in possession of anything-I am not in possession and didn’t read or absorb information that came from out of the intelligence community,transcript shows
    22
    146
    255

    Brooke Singman
    @BrookeSingman
    ·
    1h
    NEW: former DNI James Clapper says : “I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/ conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election.” — in transcript of interview with House Intel during its Russia probe.

  596. Phil says:

    Agree with pitch.

    Keep him Democrats.

  597. mRviTO says:

    Katie Pavlich
    @KatiePavlich
    ·
    59m
    I’m also told Schiff originally planned to release selected transcripts individually, rather than all at once, to drive a narrative in the media ahead of full release of all transcripts. He ran out of time.
    Quote Tweet
    Katie Pavlich
    @KatiePavlich
    · 1h
    Acting DNI Grenell planned on releasing these transcripts tomorrow at 10 a.m. Schiff then had no choice but to get ahead of it by releasing them today. ODNI also has them up now. https://twitter.com/odnigov/status

  598. wvally says:

    From the article lisab linked above, which has testimony from Tara Reads ex-husband in a 1996 court filing from their divorce:

    “On several occasions petitioner related a problem that she was having at work regarding sexual harassment in US sen Joe Biden’s office. Petitioner told me she eventually struck a deal with the chief of staff of the senators office and left her position. I was sympathetic to her needs when she asked me for help and assisted her financially, and allowed her to stay at my apartment with my roommate while she looked for work. It was obvious that this event had a very traumatic effect on petitioner, and that she is still sensitive and effected by it today.”

    Pretty damning. Will the #Ibelievebiden crew re-evaluate?

    No more than the Russian collusion crew will re-evaluate in the face of every single person interviewed by the house saying they saw no evidence of collusion.

  599. jason says:

    LOL

    “AOC on Biden sexual assault allegations: “Frankly, this is a messy moment, and I think we need to acknowledge that — that it is not clear cut … [Tara Reade] has never explicitly said, ‘Don’t vote for Joe Biden'”

  600. jason says:

    + 2126 deaths

    7 states NY NJ MA, IL, CA, PA, MI….1360

    64%

    The other 43 states, territories, Navajo Nation, Veteran Administration…. 36%

  601. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Dni Grennell carrying satchel full,of Russian hoax documents fo be released tomorrow.

  602. Country Dick Montana says:

    A few fewer deaths than last Thursday. IF PA and NY weren’t adding old cases we would be trending very nicely in the right direction. Nonetheless we are still headed down. And states are saying screw it to the northeast and opening up. At the end of the day it is those Governors who look incompetent.

    Rolling 7 Day Average Deaths

    4/20 – 2137
    4/21 – 2174
    4/22 – 2154
    4/23 – 2178
    4/24 – 2095
    4/25 – 2124
    4/26 – 2066
    4/27 – 1987
    4/28 – 1959
    4/29 – 1966
    4/30 – 1946
    5/01 – 1938
    5/02 – 1884
    5/03 – 1884
    5/04 – 1875
    5/05 – 1858
    5/06 – 1878
    5/07 – 1867

  603. Phil says:

    Like I said the other day, Jason, you never had a prayer winning our bet. Not because you didn’t have a reasonable chance of winning if things were on the level, but because the numbers are being fudged daily. Deck is stacked. The juicing won’t end May 15th either. It will go on throughout the summer. In fact, it will most certainly get more egregious.

  604. Tina says:

    This Russian hoaxer is not taking it well.

    would never leave office.
    Quote Tweet

    Joe Lockhart
    @joelockhart
    · 5h
    For anyone who thinks @realDonaldTrump will leave when he loses is kidding themselves. Today confirms that He owns the DOJ and the Judiciary. He’ll spill blood if he needs to

  605. jason says:

    Like I said the other day, Jason, you never had a prayer winning our bet.”

    Don’t count your chickens before they hatch.

    The Chris Murray model has it at +2097 today, came in at +2125, not much difference.

    We still have 8 days.

  606. Tina says:

    M.Joseph Sheppard Retweeted

    IT Guy
    @ITGuy1959
    Police cars revolving lightPolice cars revolving light

    Damn, what a news day.

    Tara Reade’s ex-husband in a 1996 court filing from their divorce.

    https://sanluisobispo.com/news/politics-government/article242527331.html

  607. jason says:

    “Mixed reaction” my ass.

    If it was a Republican, the headline would be “81% of public not very satisfied with response”

    “After nearly a month of silence on former Senate staffer Tara Reade’s allegations of sexual assault against him, presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden appeared on MSNBC on May 1 to publicly deny those claims for the first time. His response found a mixed reaction among the public.

    According to the latest Yahoo News/YouGov poll, nearly half of respondents — 49 percent — were “not satisfied” with Biden’s response to Reade’s allegations. Only 19 percent said they were “very satisfied”; the remaining 32 percent were “somewhat satisfied.”

  608. Cash Cow TM says:

    “Congrats especially to Wolf. He’s really stepped up his game of late providing steady high numbers which he’s produced from God only knows where.”

    ******************
    Phil,

    My friend in PA, Shirley U. Jest, told me that today’s PA CV-19 deaths included:

    –23 aborted fetuses

    –39 soldiers in the continental army who died at Valley forge during that cold winter.

    –a meth lab exploded in a trailer in central PA, burned the mobile home to the ground. Two bodies they found inside were classified as CV-19 deaths.

    –two PA guys got in an argument over the virus State shutdown. One shot and ki.lled the other. Then he committed soo-I-cide. Both deaths listed CV-19 related.

    –woman helping an elderly neighbor sheltering in place. she got hit buy a truck while doing the neighbor’s grocery shopping.

    –Small plane carrying CV-19 PPEs crashed. Two more CV deaths.

  609. Phil says:

    Yeah, Jason, you got 8 days but you are also up against phony numbers. Manipulated by partisan blue state governors who tag team their dumps each and every day.

    You think these pukes are going to suddenly stop doing what they are doing?

    Have you been watching these people over the years?

  610. Tina says:

    I don’t think Mulehead knows what day if the week it is.

    e.
    Quote Tweet

    Susan Hennessey
    @Susan_Hennessey
    · 6h
    Will Bob Mueller have anything to publicly say anything about this? Will Chris Wray?

  611. Cash Cow TM says:

    DRUDGE

    MONKEY ROBS BANK…

    Wonder if it was the same one that kidnapped that child a few days ago….

  612. Phil says:

    Cuomo added several hundred Revolutionary War deaths from the Battle of Saratoga. It was determined that all had tested positive for the corona virus.

  613. mnw says:

    Tina

    In answer to your question about whether Judge Sullivan could “throw a monkey wrench” into the govt’s attempt to dump the Flynn case:

    Here are my thoughts.

    1) I’m 74. I can remember exactly ONE TIME in my life that a judge refused to grant a govt motion to dismiss a pending case. (That was a state case in CA 35 years ago.)

    2) If the judge is hostile to the govt motion/dismiss, here are the practical considerations:

    A) Who exactly is going to prosecute the Flynn case, if the judge denies the motion/dismiss? Is the judge going to appoint a special prosecutor from outside DOJ? Really? Who is going to fund that?

    B) BOTH parties (defense & govt) have moved to dismiss. Uh… who is going to argue against it?

    C) Prior to the govt motion/dismiss, the sentence recommendation was… probation!

    3) Would a mere district court judge REALLY want to ignite a judicial World War III over such a petty case?

    I think it’s over.

  614. Robbie says:

    So 29,000 cases today. It’s almost as if Cuomo and the gang realized the national totals were dropping too much for comfort you they decided to goose the numbers by hunting for cases at nursing homes and jails. That’s fine and needed, but now they’re using it to say the cases are surging. It’s disgusting.

  615. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    May 7, 2020 at 6:33 pm
    Trump has clearly helped himself by not being on tv fighting the press 7 days a week. Helping his poll numbers.

    – This. This. This.

    Do staged events highlighting success stories as the economy reopens.

    Let the campaign use all of the money they’ve raised to attack Biden through TV and digital ads.

    I think Biden remains the favorite, but Trump can help himself immensely if he stops trying taking the bait from the press.

  616. mnw says:

    P.S. The govt motion/dismiss cited “new evidence” as one of the reasons for seeking dismissal. That is one of the most routine justifications for dismissing a pending case. Since the govt is charged with evaluating & presenting evidence, I have never known a judge to go behind the govt’s decision on an evidentiary issue.

    Hope this is useful.

  617. Tina says:

    Thanks mnw. The lawfare types were holding out great hope that the judge would stop this.

  618. Tina says:

    VICE News
    @vicenews
    ·
    2h
    Joe Biden tried to host a ‘virtual town hall’ tonight and looked less like the 2020 Democratic frontrunner and more like a candidate for condo board president in Fort Lauderdale attempting Zoom for the first time.

  619. Tina says:

    And pretty evident that the hoaxers, including Mulehead, new well before the 2018 mid terms that there was no collusion.

  620. Tgca says:

    663

    Damn! All I can say is mnw is old!!!

  621. Marv says:

    #670 Tgca,

    mnw is not old!

  622. Tgca says:

    671

    74 is not old? Oh dear.

    I remember when I was like 22 and someone that was 27 showed interest in me and all I could think is, Damn 27! That’s too old.

  623. Bitterlaw says:

    GFY.

  624. MikeKS says:

    Unpopular opinion:

    I think Reade is full of crap. Her story is a disaster and I think it’s not credible. Something happened but not what she said.

    I think the longer we push it, the more likely it is Biden is dropped from the ticket, which would be a bad idea as Biden cannot beat Trump.

  625. Wes says:

    Mnw may be old, but he can’t compete with Walt’s 4.5 billion years.

  626. jason says:

    Troll alert!

  627. jason says:

    Her story is a disaster”

    Zzzzzzzz….

    Worried, huh?

  628. jason says:

    This would be good news:

    “A bipartisan delegation in Congress is showing support for the Australian government’s call to investigate China over its cover-up of the coronavirus pandemic, according to a letter sent Thursday to the Australian ambassador.

    China has already threatened to boycott Australian goods and take other punitive measures against the country after Prime Minister Scott Morrison called for an independent investigation into the Communist Party’s efforts to censor information about the virus and destroy medical samples that could have been used in research. Australian leaders have also pressed for an investigation into the World Health Organization and its top officials over its alleged collusion with China.

    Chinese officials are using their state-controlled press organs to discredit Australia and accuse the country of being part of a U.S. plot to undermine Beijing. The statements include calls for boycotts of Australian foods and other products.

    In a sign of a growing consensus in Congress that China must be held accountable for its behavior, a group of more than 20 congressional leaders, in a letter sent to Australia’s ambassador to the United States, rejected Beijing’s intimidation tactics and vowed to back Australia’s tough stance. Members of both parties in the House and Senate signed on to the letter, including Sens. James Risch (R., Idaho), Robert Menendez (D., N.J.), Ben Cardin (D., Md.), Marco Rubio (R., Fla.), and Reps. Mike Gallagher (R., Wis.), Liz Cheney (R., Wyo.), and Ted Lieu (D., Calif.), among others.”

  629. jason says:

    Germany active cases April 7 72600
    Germany active cases May 7 22100

  630. jason says:

    NYT OP-ED

    Weakening the voice of future survivors worth it to elect Joe Biden.

  631. Chicon says:

    Yep, go after China hard. Just don’t impose tariffs, the price of sneakers might go up.

  632. jason says:

    “Nevada

    Gov. Steve Sisolak said May 7 that the state’s stay-at-home order will end in two days rather than May 15.

    “I’m able to move up this announcement because, as a state, we have met our gateway benchmarks for starting reopening,” Sisolak said.

    Starting Saturday, restaurants will be able to open for dine-in services with social distancing, and customers waiting for a table will stay outside. Most retail establishments will be able to open, including hair salons, by reservation only. Retail businesses are limited to 50% of normal capacity.”

  633. DW says:

    The biggest poll of the week was the one showing Trump down only 4 points in Nevada. This suggests to me the weakness shown in Arizona in other polls is suspect, and that Biden, when he is not drooling on himself trying to read prepared notes, plays better on the east coast than out west.

  634. jason says:

    Just don’t impose tariffs, the price of sneakers might go up.”

    YES, Chicon finally gets it.

    Tariffs are a tax hike on the American consumer.

    Excellent!

  635. jason says:

    Maybe, with that kind of breakthrough we can even move further in understanding tariffs.

    If you raise the price of “sneakers”, fewer “sneakers” will be sold. Fewer will be transported. Fewer stores will be needed to exhibit them. Fewer people will be needed to sell them. Fewer taxes will be collected on their sales.

    Eureka!

  636. MichiganGuy says:

    “AOC on Biden sexual assault allegations: “Frankly, this is a messy moment, and I think we need to acknowledge that — that it is not clear cut … [Tara Reade] has never explicitly said, ‘Don’t vote for Joe Biden’”
    .
    Biden sex assault accuser Tara Reade calls for him to drop out of 2020 presidential race.
    .
    https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/05/07/biden-accuser-tara-reade-hires-lawyers-who-handle-harvey-weinstein-victims.html?recirc=taboolainternal

  637. Chicon says:

    Alas, Jason still doesn’t get it. The tariff will cause the shoe manufacturer to shift production to Indonesia. Economic damage to China, and Jason will not have to bear any burden of confronting Communist China. Win-win.

  638. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

    20.5 million Jobs lost.

    Trump is gone. Democratic super-majority coming, probably for a generation.

    Good riddance to you ignorant echo chamber goons.

  639. dblaikie says:

    We have just read the most ridiculous post of the year in 689. The stupidity of TPW is almost breathtaking. Lets see, we shut down our economy for 2 months, close every restaurant, hair salon, flower shop and on and on and you expect that unemployment wouldn’t be touched!! Even more crazy you blame Trump for Covid19 coming to America.

    Sorry TPW but a red wave is coming on the crest of blue state Governors abusing their power. The only way that is going to change is if we have a huge spike in covid fatalities as we open up thereby giving those nanny state Gov. cover as well as the whole dem party.

  640. jason says:

    My brilliance is now being shown on the new thread.