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Trump Leads Biden By 3% in OH, 6% in TX, Biden Dominates in CA

Yesterday we got three new state polls from Emerson College showing Donald Trump with leads in OH and TX and Joe Bidn is dominating in CA.

PRESIDENT – OHIO (Emerson)
Donald Trump (R-inc) 46%
Joe Biden (D) 43%

PRESIDENT – TEXAS (Emerson)
Donald Trump (R-inc) 47%
Joe Biden (D) 41%

PRESIDENT – CALIFORNIA (Emerson)
Joe Biden (D) 59%
Donald Trump (R-inc) 29%

These polls were one May 8-10 among 725 registered voters in OH, 799 registered voters in TX and 800 registered voters in CA.

Posted by Dave at 9:08 am
Filed under: General | Comments (1,118)

1,118 Responses to “Trump Leads Biden By 3% in OH, 6% in TX, Biden Dominates in CA”

  1. MichiganGuy says:

    First!

  2. Tina says:

    So are the names of the unmaskers out yet?

  3. Paul says:

    Tina,
    Masks are required now. Anyone who removes one will be sent to the FEMA camps.

  4. jason says:

    If Trump get 2/3 of the undecided in CA he will be at 37%, much better than he did against Hillary.

    If he gets half of the undecided he will do better than against Hillary.

  5. jason says:

    I hate wasting comments on a dead thread.

    jason says:
    May 12, 2020 at 8:49 am

    Bitter, Tgca is an expert in so many fields that maybe he can help us out with the backing up problem at the A-hole Clubhouse.

    jason says:
    May 12, 2020 at 8:54 am

    Tgca says he has now learned to use Excel, I think that is very commendable, it is a very good program I have been using for over 30 years. I hope he likes it better than Lotus 1-2-3 and VisiCalc.

  6. jason says:

    May 12, 2020 at 8:59 am

    Coronavirus Update

    Percentage of Americans who have not reported having COVID 19 99.60%

    Percentage of Americans who have not died of COVID 91 99.9975%

  7. jason says:

    The Chinese haven’t invented COVID-91 yet but they .

  8. jason says:

    Messy Moron hasn’t been seen in awhile.

    I guess she is still in shock the Steele Dossier was shown for the 847th time to be a complete hoax.

  9. jason says:

    The Chinese haven’t invented COVID-91 yet but they .

    will

    I give up.

    Will load up on coffee and come back later.

  10. wvally says:

    #NEW Battleground States* @ChangePolls/@CNBC Poll (5/1-3):

    Trump 48% (+3)
    Biden 45%

    *Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin
    doc-04-98-docs.googleusercontent.com/docs/securesc/…

    https://twitter.com/politics_polls/status/1258253668543016960?s=21

  11. janz says:

    Although I don’t consider myself a “Fauci Hater,” I’m a huge skeptic of the reliability of his COVID predictive analysis, as well as the professional guidance he gives the WH. Like Country Dick, in the prior thread (#634), Fauci seems to be the constant purveyor of negativity towards less expensive drugs (hydroxochloroquine), and instead puts weight behind a drug, remdesivir, an expensive IV disbursed drug, having conflict of interest connections with members of the CDC.

    Fauci will be giving remote testimony to the Senate today, supposedly throwing lots of fears into current attempts to open and save our economy. Such a worst case scenario POV is exactly what he employed in advising POTUS, using the now discredited Imperial College model predicting 2.2 million deaths. Why should we give this guy so many try’s in getting it right, when he has been wrong so many times in the past?

  12. wvally says:

    That’s not actually “NEW” anymore, I just copied the tweet. From Last week.

  13. jason says:

    Russia still at 11k cases a day, seems to have stabilized somewhat.

    But still on track to pass Spain as the country with the second most cases.

  14. Wes says:

    Wes says:
    May 12, 2020 at 10:29 am
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-deaths-mount-trump-tries-to-convince-americans-its-safe-to-inch-back-to-normal/2020/05/09/bf024fe6-9149-11ea-a9c0-73b93422d691_story.html#click=https://t.co/RuYDF6k4nM

    I’ve been saying since 2018 Trump didn’t have a coherent for reelection following the 2018 midterms. This confirms what I was saying.

    Trump is just now realizing he can lose. In contrast, Obama and Clinton both realized that immediately after their midterms and began laying the groundwork shortly thereafter. Trump clearly missed a chance to define himself positively after the midterm, and Covid-19 hasn’t provided many opportunities for him to correct this oversight.

    The President had better hope Tara Reade’s allegations significantly damage Biden’s public standing.

  15. Phil says:

    …..and Tillis better get his campaign in gear. That seat could easily cost us the Senate. Democrats have outraised him 2-1.

  16. MichiganGuy says:

    Wes, don’t be all doom and gloom like the trolls. Trump is in a lot better position to win than Biden. Even CNN has his approval #’s at the highest it’s been for them in a long time.
    .
    Trump Job Approval
    .
    Approve 46%
    Disapprove 51%
    .
    https://t.co/q86uBQiQF3

  17. Wes says:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/12/donald-trump-haters-joe-biden-clinton-244629

    Trump won people who hated him and Hillary. He is losing them currently to Biden.

    Once again, Trump had better hope Tara Reade damages Biden. He missed his chance to define himself positively. The only option remaining is the Bush-Obama strategy of disqualifying his opponent rather than providing a positive reason for his re-election.

    This suggests the “hold your nose and vote for the lesser of two evils” crowd has concluded Biden is that option.

    I know, I know. Anything negative about Trump is fake news. I read that meme on the internet, so it must be true.

    Trump needs the country to reopen soon so he can campaign. He also needs to disqualify Biden or hope Biiden disqualifies himself. You rarely get a chance to make up for a wasted opportunity in politics.

  18. Wes says:

    I’m being realistic, Elmer. Read the article I posted. Even Trump has finally realized he’s in danger. It only took him 18 months to acknowledge reality, but better tardy than not at all, I guess.

  19. wvally says:

    This POS.

    ***

    John Scott Moretti, 58, the former special agent in charge of U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry’s protective detail is jailed without bond on charges of sexually assaulting a girl in Prince William County between 2011 and 2013.

    The victim knows Moretti and reported the incidents to police in September 2019. Moretti is charged with indecent liberties and forcible sodomy.

    Until 2018, Moretti was the state department’s Deputy Assistant Secretary and Assistant Director for Training for the Bureau of Diplomatic Security.

    https://www.insidenova.com/headlines/former-state-department-official-charged-with-sexual-assault-in-prince-william-county/article_108a8850-90b5-11ea-8c1b-538dfab9c8fe.html

    He’s the one who denied Ambassador Chris Stevens’ request for more security as per Rep. Duncan during Hillary Clinton’s testimony on Benghazi.

    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CHRG-113hhrg78250/html/CHRG-113hhrg78250.htm

  20. MichiganGuy says:

    Little wesley, don’t get your panties in a bunch. Calm down, you can come out of the basement now. Put on a mask if that helps.Go outside and get some fresh air.

  21. Marv says:

    Good morning……

    Janz, nice post in #11.

    Wes, or anyone else…..what’s your opinion about the CA CD25 special election today. Mike Garcia (R)
    is a strong candidate and could flip the district.

  22. jason says:

    I don’t dispute that Trump needs to run like he is behind, he might well be.

    I don’t agree Tara Reade is “Trump’s last hope”, I don’t think she will be a big factor in the election.

    What she does is inoculate Trump somewhat from one of the weapons the Dems were sure to use against him.

    I also don’t give the WAPO the final say on Trump’s chances, the article Wes posted is long on TDS and short on facts.

    But at the end of the day Wes is correct on this:

    “Trump needs the country to reopen soon so he can campaign. He also needs to disqualify Biden or hope Biiden disqualifies himself.”

  23. Wes says:

    I didn’t make any personal attacks toward you, Elmer, but since you felt the need to fire a salvo, how’d that “unstoppable” pedophile from Alabama you were jerking off to in 2017 work out?

  24. Phil says:

    Trump needs the country to reopen……which is why it won’t.

    Democrats know it and that’s why it won’t.

    Can you imagine Trump calling Wolf up and asking him to reopen Pa?

    Wolf ain’t doing it…….not until we have a Democratic President.

    My heart would go out to those in Pa, Illinois, etc who are trapped in a perpetual economic shutdown…..except it doesn’t. Voters in states like Pa voted for dicks like Wolf – twice even. You reap what you sow.

  25. dblaikie says:

    My response to my friend Wes is to remind him of our bet made right after 2018. Back then he came out saying that Trump had absolutely no chance. Wes has a fine mind and a keen eye for politics. However, and he knows I am saying nothing new, I believe he went out on a limb way too early.

    My prediction of November is quite simple. If Trump is able to get the Country moving again without a huge spike of Covid fatalities, he will win. Conversely if that spike comes Trump will be in trouble. If that happens his only hope will be that in the end we cannot vote for a senile person. However when I look at the data coming out of Georgia, Texas and Florida I believe that the Dems are in big trouble.

  26. jason says:

    janz is long on baseless attacks and really short on facts.

    “Fauci will be giving remote testimony to the Senate today, supposedly throwing lots of fears into current attempts to open and save our economy.”

    I guess we don’t need any testimony, the haters have already decided what Fauci will say.

    Not to mention the outright lies:

    “Such a worst case scenario POV is exactly what he employed in advising POTUS, using the now discredited Imperial College model predicting 2.2 million deaths. Why should we give this guy so many try’s in getting it right, when he has been wrong so many times in the past?”

    I have NEVER seen Fauci tout the Imperial College model in ANY press conference. The model he and Birx have referenced is the IHME model, which at worst predicted 240k death.

    And of course “wrong so many times in the past” is complete BS.

  27. Wes says:

    Hoping Garcia wins, Marv. He seems like a slight favorite at this point.

  28. MichiganGuy says:

    Wes, you call me Elmer and then say you didn’t personally attack me. LOL And since you want to start a war. How is your stripper girlfriend who you forced to kill her unborn baby? Oh nevermind, I forgot after you took advantage of her like you do too all vulnerable girls you meet you dumped her and moved on to your next victim.

  29. jason says:

    Obviously a pro-Trump PAC agrees with me and disagrees with Jason.”

    Not at all.

    I think Tara Reade is telling the truth, and I am glad that the PACs are running ads on it.

    As I said above, it inoculates Trump from one of his vulnerabilities.

    But do I think it will be a major campaign issue in the Fall?

    No.

  30. Robbie says:

    One area where I think Republicans could help themselves right now is to make “challenge trials” a public issue. A few weeks ago, a group of 30 House members, including many Democrats, sent the FDA a letter requesting they use challenge trials. So far, nothing has come from that letter even though one website has had more than 9,000 people sign up to participate in the trials knowing what the risks are.

    I think the party that shows the most concern for the both the economy and health together will benefit. Right now, Democrats have basically decided the economy can die a slow death so long as people don’t get coronavirus. On the other hand, Republicans have prioritized the economy (as I would), but they have left themselves open to criticism about health concerns.

    It seems to me urging for challenge trials is the best of both worlds. It places health as the paramount way to quickly reopen the economy quickly. Waiting 12-18 months is not the definition of quickly. My understanding is we could basically know which vaccines work by July if we started these trial today. Wouldn’t that change the entire outlook for everyone?

    I bring this up because Fauci is out making the rounds again. He told the Senate this morning 8 vaccines are in various stages of development and we should know maybe by late Fall or Winter what works. Well, that’s better than 12-18 months, but let’s be honest for a second. We’re in a presidential campaign and everything is an issue. If Trump can announce a vaccine emergency approval by Labor Day (just picking a day), that would benefit him and Republicans greatly.

    I think Republicans are missing the boat and I think the FDA is not an organization set up to handle an acute crisis like this. You can already feel the country fraying at the edges and I’m just not sure we can wait until Christmas to learn if one of the 8 vaccines works. What if none do? Better to learn now than then, right?

  31. Marv says:

    Wes,

    Yes, Garcia appears to have the lead based on the returned ballots. Given that it is mostly a mail-in ballot election, we probably won’t know the results for several days.

  32. Chicon says:

    The high end IHME model had an update on May 10. This update predicted with 95% confidence that the US would have between 1346 and 2617 deaths on May 11 (one day later, PO), with 1789 the most likely outcome. Actual was 1008. Better do another update, stat.

    Complete trash from day 1.

  33. Chicon says:

    23 – no personal attacks, other than calling him Elmer…

    I love this place.

  34. Phil says:

    Garcia is a great candidate.

    Hope he wins. The question is, who counts the mail in ballots?

  35. Marv says:

    Robbie…..how’s it going for you? Do you remain on furlough?
    I sympathize with you, I was furloughed 4 times from various airlines before the big airline based in Dallas hired me.

  36. Country Dick Montana says:

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/cdc-director-coronavirus-cases-stabilized-peak-soon

    “I think we’ve really stabilized across the country,” Redfield said on Monday. “We’re still seeing a small rate of increase in the range of 5 to 6 percent, as opposed to where we were before when it was 20 percent, 30 percent per day; but we are close.”

    That is just a baldfaced lie. The rolling 2 week average of day to day increase in MINUS 1%. we haven’t seen an average of 6% since April 9. These Government guys, even the ones that are appointed are just snakes.

  37. Marv says:

    Hey Phil,

    How are you and Mrs Phil doing?

  38. Phil says:

    Doing well, Marv. Hope you are well.

  39. hugh says:

    17. Couple things. I disliked trump and hillary and voted for trump. Today I like trump. So we are not dealing with the same groups of people who like trump and don’t like trump. Second. If true, then biden would be doing much better in the polls. in the end when peoples k plans are down, some no longer have a job who will they vote for? Trump the businessman or biden the idiot.

  40. jason says:

    The high end IHME model had an update on May 10. This update predicted with 95% confidence that the US would have between 1346 and 2617 deaths on May 11 (one day later, PO), with 1789 the most likely outcome. Actual was 1008. Better do another update, stat.

    Complete trash from day 1.”

    Not a fair assessment. If you read the notes you will see they say you can’t rely on the day to day stats as they fluctuate greatly depending on the reporting.

    However, IF today and tomorrow are under the curve, I believe they will revise the numbers.

    But their projection of at least 100k deaths seems hard to argue with, given that we are over 80k now.

  41. wvally says:

    Fauci: US COVID-19 deaths likely higher than reported

  42. Robbie says:

    Anthony Fauci is now all but telling the Senate it’s too dangerous for kids to return to school this Fall without a vaccine or treatment.

    Fauci is a prime example why we shouldn’t put a lab doctor in charge of economic or societal policy. Under his leadership, everyone would on house arrest until there’s a vaccine given to all 330 million people. Industry would fail, the airlines would fail, universities would fail, and, eventually, the banking industry would fail. And once that happens, we’d all be broke.

    It’s easy for Fauci to tell everyone to stay home since he’s a government worker whose job will never be in danger. But for the rest of the country, life would all but grind to a halt and society would begin to crumble in ways Fauci seems to not realize.

    At this point, I’d rather hear from Dr. House than Dr. Fauci because Fauci seems to think he can put the economy on ice for a couple of years and nothing will go wrong.

  43. jason says:

    Couple things. I disliked trump and hillary and voted for trump. Today I like trump.”

    I disliked Trump and Hillary and didn’t vote for Trump.

    Today, I still don’t like Trump, but will vote for him.

  44. jason says:

    nthony Fauci is now all but telling the Senate it’s too dangerous for kids to return to school this Fall without a vaccine or treatment.”

    I listened to him, he didn’t say that. He said students will need to be tested which makes sense to me.

    “At this point, I’d rather hear from Dr. House than Dr. Fauci because Fauci seems to think he can put the economy on ice for a couple of years and nothing will go wrong.”

    Again, he never said that.

    I am listening to the testimony. Sanders and Murray are just using it as a platform to attack Trump.

    I don’t see anyone taking the bait. Sanders tried to come up with a doomsday scenario for the Fall and Fauci calmly said that IF that happened, we would be better prepared.

    I have heard nothing from Fauci that I disagree with so far.

  45. Robbie says:

    Marv says:
    May 12, 2020 at 11:14 am
    Robbie…..how’s it going for you? Do you remain on furlough?
    I sympathize with you, I was furloughed 4 times from various airlines before the big airline based in Dallas hired me.

    – No, I’m not furloughed right now. That will likely change on October 1 when the government payroll money runs out. I did fly an empty flight last month, though. Anecdotally, flights are fuller now, but we’re on a 90% reduced schedule so it’s hardly happy days are here again.

    I went through a furlough in 2008 and 2009 when I flew at a regional, but we always knew things would turn around. Now, I have no idea what to expect post September 30. The CEO of Boeing was on the Today Show this morning and said he expects one of the majors to cease operations after October 1. If that’s true, well, I don’t even want to think about it.

    I’m in the bottom 15% of the seniority list so it’s hard to see how I don’t get furloughed. We have lots of age 65 retirements coming, but who is going to be flying so long as Anthony Fauci tells the world leaving your house can cause imminent death?

  46. jason says:

    But for the rest of the country, life would all but grind to a halt and society would begin to crumble in ways Fauci seems to not realize.”

    I am sure he realizes it, but it is not his job to point that out.

    Again, people here want Fauci to be a political animal and advocate for opening the economy.

    Not his job. His job is to give the best advice he can on minimizing the number of deaths. I think he is doing that.

    It is up to Trump to consider that and decide what trade offs should be made.

  47. jason says:

    I don’t think the government will allow any major airline to fail by October 1.

    There may be a merger, but I don’t think Delta, United, American or Southwest are gong under just yet.

  48. hugh says:

    is birx going to testify? Far better spokesperson than fauci. If not what are the republicans who control the senate thinking?

  49. Wes says:

    Well, Elmer, you should at least know what you’re talking about when making personal attacks. My girlfriend had the baby. I’m not sure where you get the idea I forced her to have an abortion.

    Then again you were hoping Alabama would elect a pedophile to the Senate simply because he’s a theocrat. I really should not be surprised.

  50. hugh says:

    Again, people here want Fauci to be a political animal and advocate for opening the economy.
    Not his job. His job is to give the best advice he can on minimizing the number of deaths. I think he is doing that.
    It is up to Trump to consider that and decide what trade offs should be made.

    It is exactly what I want competent and political. I am sure if Hillary was president it is exactly what fauci would be doing. Career bureaucrats love democrats

  51. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    May 12, 2020 at 11:30 am
    But for the rest of the country, life would all but grind to a halt and society would begin to crumble in ways Fauci seems to not realize.”
    I am sure he realizes it, but it is not his job to point that out.

    – Except he is the only person the press and many people are listening to right now. If he gave the “all clear”, people would stream out of their homes to stores, restaurants, and everything else.

    If he would simply say publicly that health has to be balanced against economic concerns, I would be less aggravated at him. He’s not doing that even though he has the biggest megaphone in the country.

  52. Wes says:

    Wow!

    From the histrionics Chicon and Elmer Gantry are engaging in, you’d think I called Elmer a kind of word Dave’s filter wouldn’t like.

  53. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    May 12, 2020 at 11:33 am
    I don’t think the government will allow any major airline to fail by October 1.
    There may be a merger, but I don’t think Delta, United, American or Southwest are gong under just yet.

    – I agree with you, but I think speculation by Boeing’s CEO was completely unnecessary and unneeded. He needs to focus on getting the MAX flying, not offering commentary on the Today Show.

  54. jason says:

    Dr Fauci to Rand Paul.

    “I only give advice on public health issues. I don’t give advice on economic issues”.

    Perfect.

    I actually thought Rand Paul’s comments were good, btw, he brought in Sweden’s policy and gave some good numbers.

  55. jason says:

    Is Elmer an insult?

    I want to know in case someone call me that and I can get points.

  56. Tina says:

    Daily Caller
    @DailyCaller
    · 6h
    Dr. Birx Reportedly Believes Coronavirus Death Toll Inflated By Up To 25%. https://dailycaller.com/2020/05/11/doctor-deborah-birx-coronavirus-covid-19-death-toll-inflated-numbers-cases-cdc-white-house-meeting-report/

  57. jason says:

    I agree with you, but I think speculation by Boeing’s CEO was completely unnecessary and unneeded. He needs to focus on getting the MAX flying, not offering commentary on the Today Show.”

    He is looking out for his bacon. If an airline fails, he wants a bigger bailout.

  58. Phil says:

    Fauci gloom and doom. Expected. Paul gave Fauci a chance to walk back his comments about school. He clearly didn’t do so. Instead, spent the time instead going on and on about how we don’t know everything about the effect on children. The wife and I had to turn it off.

  59. jason says:

    Ok I finally disagree with something Fauci said.

    Sanders got him to say that maybe the deaths have been under reported rather than over reported, especially in NYC.

    I think it is the opposite.

  60. hugh says:

    kids will be back in school or parents will revolt. there may be some modifications and protections, but they will be back.

  61. Chicon says:

    53 – use of the word “histrionics” in regard to my earlier post is, well, histrionic.

    I still love this place.

  62. Joe J says:

    I have a hard time thinking Trump is in trouble due to the early tea leaves we’re seeing in some of these mostly flawed polls. Reasons for optimism…

    1. Low to mid 90s approval from Rs
    2. Higher minority approval, especially from hispanics.
    3. A weak D candidate. Let me clarify, a VERY weak candidate.
    4. Swing state D governors are growing more and more unpopular as they try to keep their states closed for longer than necessary. Trump wins any of WI, MI, PA and it’s game over for Biden. I’m not buying Trump is in trouble in AZ, NC and especially FL.
    5. For all intents in purposes, April was probably Trump’s low point as far as public opinion which was still well above his late 2017 numbers.

  63. Robbie says:

    Jake Sherman
    @JakeSherman
    Fauci to Rand Paul: “I dont give advice about economic things.”

    – Baloney. We shutdown the American economy based on his advice.

  64. jason says:

    Baloney. We shutdown the American economy based on his advice.”

    No. Trump shut down America to avoid half a million deaths or more.

    Blaming Fauci for the shutdown is stupid. Not that I think he gave bad advice, he didn’t.

    But the economic issues have nothing to with Fauci.

  65. Wes says:

    So basically if we ignore actual data and arbitrarily refuse to acknowledge clear warning signs present for years now, we can conclude Trump is in no danger, Joe.

    Fair enough.

  66. jason says:

    Swing state D governors are growing more and more unpopular as they try to keep their states closed for longer than necessary.”

    I hope you are right, but is there any evidence of this?

  67. Tina says:

    Savage

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    ·
    27m
    Paul to Fauci at hearing: The history of this will be wrong prediction after wrong prediction after wrong prediction..And as much as I respect you Dr Fauci, I don’t think you’re the end-all..

  68. Phil says:

    So what do we have out of Fauci this morning?

    Making the argument against going back to school in three or four months.

    CoronaVirus deaths under reported in direct contradiction to what Dr Blix has said.

    This MF needs to shut the F up.

  69. jason says:

    I am not doom and gloom on Trump’s chances but:

    1.1. Low to mid 90s approval from Rs. DOES NOT WIN ELECTIONS
    2. Higher minority approval, especially from hispanics. ONLY RELEVANT IF IN SWING STATES
    3. A weak D candidate. Let me clarify, a VERY weak candidate. HILLARY WAS WEAK, ALMOST WON
    4. Swing state D governors are growing more and more unpopular as they try to keep their states closed for longer than necessary. Trump wins any of WI, MI, PA and it’s game over for Biden. I’m not buying Trump is in trouble in AZ, NC and especially FL. EVIDENCE?
    5. For all intents in purposes, April was probably Trump’s low point as far as public opinion which was still well above his late 2017 numbers. PURE SPECULATION

  70. jason says:

    Paul to Fauci at hearing: The history of this will be wrong prediction after wrong prediction after wrong prediction..And as much as I respect you Dr Fauci, I don’t think you’re the end-all..”

    I despise Rand Paul, but it was a fair comment.

    And Fauci did not take offense “there is a lot I still don’t know about this virus”

  71. Joe J says:

    Wes,
    I agree we shouldn’t ignore the real data but what’s happening is happening no matter what. Who gets the blame is what will determine what happens in November. If you’re referring to electoral danger, of course there is some. But the first thing I look at when I see new polls, whether they are D+10 or D+1 is what’s Trumps economy/jobs numbers. So far, he’s in good shape. He and his administration is not being blamed for it, yet. That could change. If I’m missing the point of your rebuttal, please reel me back in.

  72. jason says:

    Making the argument against going back to school in three or four months.

    Not what he said. He said to go back you need to test every student. I think he is right.

    CoronaVirus deaths under reported in direct contradiction to what Dr Blix has said.”

    I am with Birx. But Fauci is entitled to his opinion, we don’t really know if he is wrong, do we?

  73. Phil says:

    Fauci is entitled to his opinion and we don’t really know if he’s wrong.

    Ok, I’m sold.

  74. Joe J says:

    Jason,
    Whitmer, Wolf, etc all seem to be in positive territory on approval at last check but it’s been a downward trend. There are enough voters willing to give them a pass for now but even they will being to grow angry if this gets pushed out any longer than it needs to be.

    I can’t see someone like Whitmer staying in the positive if her state refuses to more fully open in the coming weeks. We’re not talking about Obama’s blue double digit win Michigan anymore.

  75. Tina says:

    Phil, is that true, he contradicted dr. Birx?

    Wtf is he doing?

  76. janz says:

    The NYT reporter, before Fauci’s senate testimony, that he would be warning about too early of an economic re- entry without enough satisfactory data behind It.

    It was the Imperial College dire prediction model that both Fauci and Birx walked into the Oval Office with to convince POTUS into applying more stringent guidelines. The INME model came into play only after Ferguson massively walked back his Imperial model numbers.

    Jason, you are blinded by your Fauci-is-a-wonderful-guy vision, and discredit those who read and see how damaging his expert advice has really been.

  77. Phil says:

    He’s doing what he always does. Tina.

    Gloom and doom. Spouting worst case scenario and plowing the ground for perpetual lockdown.

    What else is new.

  78. janz says:

    Also, I don’t believe it will be a cake walk for Trump in his bid to be re-elected. The dislike for him personally is huge and will be difficult to overcome, even when diluted by his many policy successes. However, I also see Tara Reade as being a passing distraction too. Her own story has many potholes in it, mired in a bias supporting Sanders earlier for president.

  79. Tina says:

    I am glad I am not watching. My blood pressure is high enough.

  80. Wes says:

    Well, Joe, I don’t think Trump gets blame for Covid-19 outside partisan liberal Dems who will literally find any way to blame him for all evils in the world.

    That’s not the point though. Trump has been a perennially unpopular President both as registered by polling and as indicated by the hard data of election results each year since he took office. He’s definitely in trouble. All polls indicate this—even his internals.

    The thing is that Trump missed many chances to ingratiate himself with the masses and missed them. Dems threw him a lifeline with impeachment, but Covid-19 has mitigated his benefits from that and frozen the race.

    It’s hard to argue Trump isn’t in danger.

    You based your argument on subjective refusal to acknowledge data in states Trump and Biden need to win, misrepresentation of the standings of certain Governors, and a belief that Biden is a weak opponent—a supposition not supported by his standing in polls or his electoral history.

    Trump is obviously in deep danger of losing, and self-gratifyingly saying he’s not in real danger is the surest way to ensure his loss.

  81. Tina says:

    Goal,is,to keep everything shut down. No debates. Nothing.

    Quote Tweet

    Rosie memos
    @almostjingo
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    Are there any Democrats that want America to get well?

  82. Hugh says:

    I think the betting sites are pretty on the money at this point. Trump barely ran a campaign last time and on a financial shoe string compared to Hillary. Biden may be more likable than Hillary but he has turned into buffoon. Hillary was coherent.

  83. Hugh says:

    Oh and Biden is in deep danger of losing to trump.

  84. Tina says:

    Not the brightest bunch here

    Shem Horne
    @Shem_Infinite
    ·
    12m
    Murkowsi, Sanders, Warren, Kaine, Murphy, and Burr are all on the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee. No wonder our country is struggling to figure out how to deal with the virus outbreak. What a pathetic group.

  85. Wes says:

    Biden can certainly lose, Hugh, but right now Trump is the one in the precarious position.

    Trump needs to define Biden negatively quickly. That’s why I’d hype what Tara Reade says relentlessly right now. She’s his best shot at making voters wary of Biden as a viable alternative.

  86. Tina says:

    China Biden is very weak among Latinos.

    And no excitement.

    This looks like a high single to low double digit lead, Phil?

    Thao Nguyen
    @helloitsthao
    new emerson poll of texas shows trump surging among latinos

    biden leads trump by 7% among texas latinos

    clinton won them by 27% in 2016 according to exits

    another poll showing a huge shift

    topline is trump+6 and that’s without a likely voter screen

  87. jason says:

    It was the Imperial College dire prediction model “that both Fauci and Birx walked into the Oval Office with to convince POTUS into applying more stringent guidelines. The INME model came into play only after Ferguson massively walked back his Imperial model numbers.”

    That is a lie. The guidelines are based on the IHME model, if at all, not the Imperial College mode. I watched all the initial pressers, Imperial College NEVER mentioned.

    Jason, you are blinded by your Fauci-is-a-wonderful-guy vision, and discredit those who read and see how damaging his expert advice has really been.”

    His expert advice saved hundreds of thousands of lives, that is how “damaging” it was.

  88. jason says:

    His expert advice may have saved Trump’s presidency too.

  89. Joe J says:

    Wes,
    I disagree that he’s in deep danger. I think he’s probably a slight favorite right now due to those reasons I mentioned, as well as another one I forgot to mention, money and organization. Biden’s campaign, technology, organization, anything right now is a disaster. This could and probably will change over the next 5.5 months but right now, Parscale is eating their lunch on that front.

    The data we’re seeing in the polls is that yes, Trump is behind in the former blue wall states by a few. I can pull out the old “Hillary was ahead by 10 at this same point in 2016!” but we already know that here. Biden has had success in DE but not nationally. His primary journey this year was an orchestrated attempt to play keep-away from Bernie. Plus, this isn’t the 1990s or even the 2008 Biden. He has MAJOR issues as a candidate. Democrats are about to nominate the most Pro-China candidate in the most anti-China year where you have large % of democrats who have a negative perception of the regime. And yes, Tara Reade may shape up to be 2020’s version of Swift Boating, a slow but steady drain on his coalition throughout the year. I may be wrong about these observations but it’s only May.

    As for Trump, I see the next 6 months going this way.. a slow but steady stream of good economic and health news starting soon but ramping up throughout the summer into Sept. Trump will look like a virtual shoo-in right before the debates. Then you will have the media start overhyping the coming of the new Fall-Winter strain of the virus and re-reminding everyone what happened this spring and asking them a question, who do you trust to handle wave 2? Trump will have an improving economy at his back so dems will look to take the focus off that and win on virus/healthcare issues. The debates will define the rest of the race and who can get their message to the masses over the final 5 weeks.

    Sorry for the novel.

  90. jason says:

    Jason, you are blinded by your Fauci-is-a-wonderful-guy vision”

    Zzzzzz… I have no idea how wonderful a guy he is.

    All I know is that he is the foremost authority in his field and he has provided credibility and gravitas to Trump throughout this whole episode.

    As such, IF Trump survives, he should get a lot of credit.

    And you know this is true from the untiring efforts of the MSM to drive a wedge between Fauci and Trump.

    The MSM understand how important Fauci is to Trump’s credibility. That is why they want to get rid of him.

  91. janz says:

    As I see it Fauci is a “showboater,” one who likes to be at the front of the line in taking credit for successes he didn’t necessarily earn, while being vague and diplomatically smooth on everything else. Case in point is how he demanded the notes on Dr. Ruscetti’s HIV research, developing those papers and presenting them 6 months later as his and another cohort as being their own research work.

    Fauci is simply a uncanny piece of work, kind of like Hillary (who he adores) and Obama. However, if he was fired, it would only stoke unnecessary negative chatter from the MSM and the Dems.

  92. jason says:

    Fauci is simply a uncanny piece of work, kind of like Hillary (who he adores) and Obama.”

    LOL

    That’s what all the lies are about huh?

    At least the truth comes out.

    Facts don’t matter. What matters is that Fauci might be a Democrat.

    Unbelievable.

  93. jason says:

    Like I said, the attacks on Fauci are mostly just cheap partisan BS.

    But at least janz admits it.

  94. jason says:

    Joe J, nice analysis.

    I think it is too optimistic, but I hope I am wrong.

  95. Pitchaboy says:

    The CDC guy should not be talking. He stinks. Romney and Fauci are helping the democrats today. Where is Birx when you need her.

  96. Phil says:

    No you can’t politically fire the guy. Trump is stuck with him.

    His gloom and doom hardly makes him an asset toward Trump reelection.

    Jason believes we need to open the country. Fauci (like today) makes statements making it harder for Trump to get that done. (kids in danger going back to school in four months in spout of clear stats on child deaths, his statement that deaths are unreported, and God knows whatever he spouts before the day is over). Democrats can get this guy to say anything they want.

  97. Robbie says:

    I also believe Fauci is a showboater. The most dangerous place to be in Washington DC right now is between Fauci and a TV camera.

    You can believe Fauci is a showboat and it’s also worth hearing from him. But we need to recognize Fauci is not the be all end all.

    Let’s not forget this is the guy who said last month it was still ok to have sex with someone you meet up with on Tinder if you’re willing to take the risk.

    So it’s ok for a Tinder hookup, but maybe not ok for football or school?

  98. Country Dick Montana says:

    “The CDC guy should not be talking. He stinks. Romney and Fauci are helping the democrats today. Where is Birx when you need her.”

    I will go with the Good Doctor’s (Pitch) on this one.

  99. Phil says:

    Romney and Fauci are helping the Democrats today.

    Thanks, Pitch. Someone finally stating the obvious.

    …and yeah, where is Blix when you need her?

  100. Joe J says:

    Jason, thanks. I have Trump around a 60/40 favorite so maybe I am a little on the optimistic side but until I see either Trump’s economic/jobs approval dip and/or Biden closing the enthusiasm gap, I will maintain that it’s still Trump’s election to lose.

  101. Phil says:

    Not a fan of Rand Paul but he was good today. Gave Fauci a chance to walk back his remarks about school openings. Fauci didn’t take advantage of the opportunity. Telling.

  102. janz says:

    Facts: the Imperial College Model was released March 16th, the same day that the Trump Administration issued lockdown guidance for schools, churches and nonessential services – under the advice of Trump’s chosen experts, Fauci & Birx. This model, not the IHME model was the one referenced all the way into at least early April, after which the Washington one slipped into the daily briefings as the model being followed.

    These aren’t cheap shots, Jason, as you would like to believe. Just looking at the timeline of what occurred when. Also, reviewing some of the claims made about Fauci’s work in his much acclaimed participation in HIV.

  103. Country Dick Montana says:

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/michigan-barber-defying-coronavirus-lockdown-judge

    “I’m going to stay open until Jesus comes,” Manke pledged.

    And this is Wretched Gretchen’s answer:

    “I also know a lot of people who could use a haircut, yours truly included as well as my husband. … I expect people to follow the law,” Whitmer said. “These executive orders are not a suggestion. They’re not optional. They’re not helpful hints.”

    Screw her.

  104. Tina says:

    I am not an impatient any hearings,

    Unless you consider goober appearing on hannity.

    Emerald Robinson ??
    @EmeraldRobinson
    · 1h
    Lindsey Graham on calling Barack Obama to testify under oath on Obamagate:

    August 2019: Yes. “Absolutely.”

    May 2020: “I’m not anticipating calling President Obama.”

  105. Pitchaboy says:

    Kids are barely touched by this virus. A rare one gets it and all the hooplah about post COVID Kawasaki disease in kids is anecdotal. It would be stupid to cancel school. Shelter the old goats, start sending them to school and practice hand wShing, social distancing and mask. The key number is overall mortality numbers in the US is no worse than the yearly average over the last 5 years. In other words, if COVID don’t get ya, something else will when you hit 75.

  106. Joe J says:

    106, Michiganders are going to grow tired of this real quick. If not, they deserve what they get.

  107. Pitchaboy says:

    Rare one dies, it should read.

  108. Phil says:

    They elected her so in my mind they already deserve it.

  109. Tina says:

    Quittens on there committee too? Ugh.

    Shem Horne
    @Shem_Infinite
    ·
    17m
    Mitt Romney just asked Director Redfield to tell him how Congress should do their job and Redfields mic was muted and then the stream was buffering and that about sums up how this hearing has gone Face with tears of joy
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    Shem Horne
    @Shem_Infinite
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    Oh great Mitt Romney is on this committee, just when I thought it couldn’t get any more pathetic.

  110. Robbie says:

    Here’s a story in today’s WSJ about human challenge trials. What I don’t get is the article says we would need to develop a virus to administer to those who’ve been given the vaccine. Why not just give them the same thing the Oxford group gave to the rhesus monkeys?

    I think challenge trials are the only quick way out of this, assuming the vaccines work. Yet, the FDA doesn’t seem all that interested. Obviously, it’s not an organization set up to handle an acute crisis.

    If I were Trump, I’d tell the head of the FDA to start them and, if he won’t, then Trump should find a new head of the FDA who will.

    Pitch, thoughts on the story?

    https://t.co/HQUPLjnZAA?amp=1

  111. Tina says:

    So, the only good Rs up there are Rand and Scott?

  112. Pitchaboy says:

    Neutralizing antibody works Robbie. Therefore challenge trials are not required. If they can show me a brisk IGG response to the vaccine in the trial, I will roll my sleeve up without hesitation. We should know this summer.

  113. jason says:

    Facts: the Imperial College Model was released March 16th, the same day that the Trump Administration issued lockdown guidance for schools, churches and nonessential services – under the advice of Trump’s chosen experts, Fauci & Birx.”

    Zzzzzzz… how dishonest can you get?

    To say the lock down occurred because of the Imperial College model is a despicable lie.

  114. janz says:

    Jason, you’ve become moronic in your responses. It seems better for you to save face, than entertain an open mind.

    zzzzzzzzzzz

  115. jason says:

    The lock down was enacted because of a global pandemic, just like it was done in every other country before and after the Imperial College model.

    Which by the way, was too conservative in its revision, they estimated 20k deaths and the UK is now at 32k and climbing.

    The measures and guidelines the taskforce has been using for the US are not based on the original Imperial College model.

    But of course janz knows that. She just chooses to keep lying about it.

  116. NYCmike says:

    “Zzzzzzz… how dishonest can you get?

    To say the lock down occurred because of the Imperial College model is a despicable lie.”

    -Let’s see……janz is saying 1 thing, and jason is saying the opposite. Instead of getting the facts to prove his point, jason is calling janz names.

    This movie has played before. Last time, jason was joined by MD.

    I’ll say with 75% certainty that janz is correct. Let’s see if jason’s 25% can show any evidence of him being correct, and hopefully he can avoid name-calling as his evidence.

  117. jason says:

    Still here, janz?

    You already said everything you needed to say when you said “Fauci loves Hillary”.

    The truth came out whether you intended it or not.

    I got it.

  118. Robbie says:

    Pitchaboy says:
    May 12, 2020 at 1:18 pm
    Neutralizing antibody works Robbie. Therefore challenge trials are not required. If they can show me a brisk IGG response to the vaccine in the trial, I will roll my sleeve up without hesitation. We should know this summer.

    – But isn’t it true that what works in monkeys doesn’t always work in humans?

    Also, I’ve been following the development of monoclonal antibody treatments. I know DistributedBio in San Francisco has produced one that’s been tested by the military at one of their labs.

    I was hopeful this type of treatment would be a shot, but apparently, it will be an IV. Does an IV treatment that’s close to 100% effective change the game even if it’s only in IV form?

    I don’t know.

  119. NYCmike says:

    Yesterday, I asked if Fauci received $$ for patents.

    jason claimed that was an “attack”.

    Today I will ask this: “Why did Fauci email the NY Times LAST NIGHT, so they could write a story, with his testimony for today?

    Also, why did the Senate agree to have Fauci and Redford, and not Birx?

    How is that Redford always gets these great parts? He is so old now. Newman already passed, and Hoffman is washed up.

  120. jason says:

    So NYC, you really think the corona virus task force recommendations and guidelines in place the last two months are based on the original Imperial College model showing 2 million deaths in the US?

    Or are they somewhat based on estimates that have been shown at just about every presser, an estimate of between 100k and 240k deaths?

  121. jason says:

    Also, why did the Senate agree to have Fauci and Redford, and not Birx?”

    I thought Rs controlled the senate?

  122. jason says:

    Yesterday, I asked if Fauci received $$ for patents.

    jason claimed that was an “attack”.”

    Have you uncovered anything yet that he did anything illegal or unethical regarding, or is just a baseless and unwarranted attack?

  123. NYCmike says:

    “I thought Rs controlled the senate?”

    -Exactly.

    That is why I am asking why they didn’t have Birx, and only the other 2.

  124. NYCmike says:

    “Have you uncovered anything yet that he did anything illegal or unethical regarding, or is just a baseless and unwarranted attack?”

    -Got it.

    A FACT that he received $$ for patents is now, IN YOUR WORLD, “a baseless and unwarranted attack”.

    Sounds like you are defending someone who doesn’t need to be defended………..ODD……..

  125. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    May 12, 2020 at 1:31 pm
    So NYC, you really think the corona virus task force recommendations and guidelines in place the last two months are based on the original Imperial College model showing 2 million deaths in the US?

    – I don’t think there’s any doubt the Imperial College model is what caused Trump to ask for governors to shut down the economy.

    However, I think Trump and his advisors latched onto the IHME model because they felt 100,000 deaths over a period of months was a much easier sell to the American public.

    The truth is everyone got caught flatfooted. In early March, no one thought coronavirus was widespread in the US. Well, just yesterday Oho announced they confirmed 5 deaths from January were from coronavirus. It was here long before we realized, but we didn’t know it and panicked.

  126. NYCmike says:

    #123 – I am waiting to see conclusive evidence from either one of you or janz as to which method was used.

    I am basing my prediction on past events, as well as your tendency to call people names when your opinion is incorrect.

    Prove me wrong. Show your evidence.

  127. NYCmike says:

    And again, why would Dr Fauci, supposedly a non-partisan player, email the NY Times THE NIGHT BEFORE?

  128. jason says:

    I think the evidence is that the task force has worked with a projection of 100k to 240k deaths for months, and that is what the numbers seem to point at.

    If the task force was working with a projection of 2.2 million deaths, the guidelines would be very different.

    It stands to reason that Trump would certainly have ordered a shutdown with a prediction of 100 to 240k deaths.

    Nobody was willing even to admit there would be that many deaths, I certainly didn’t.

  129. Tina says:

    Too many different motives, too many sucky models, and too many conflicting viewpoints by the star qb, who has been wrong,

    Laura Ingraham
    @IngrahamAngle
    ·
    2h
    2 months ago: “Can’t open until we flatten the curve to save our healthcare system.” One month ago: “Can’t open until we have a vaccine.” A few days ago: “Can’t open until we have multiple vaccines.” Today: (Essentially) Can’t open until Biden wins.

  130. jason says:

    “I thought Rs controlled the senate?”

    -Exactly.

    That is why I am asking why they didn’t have Birx, and only the other 2.”

    I don’t know. But I don’t see why that is Fauci’s fault, that R senators didn’t call Birx.

    What do you think is the reason?

  131. jason says:

    2 months ago: “Can’t open until we flatten the curve to save our healthcare system.” One month ago: “Can’t open until we have a vaccine.” A few days ago: “Can’t open until we have multiple vaccines.” Today: (Essentially) Can’t open until Biden wins.”

    This is true.

    But it is not up to Fauci to change the narrative, it is up to Trump, the Republican leadership, and the R governors.

  132. jason says:

    Today I will ask this: “Why did Fauci email the NY Times LAST NIGHT, so they could write a story, with his testimony for today?”

    Zzzzzz….

    What is the problem exactly?

    I see Fauci on Fox news too. He seems to be widely available for interviews, with no objection from the WH.

  133. NYCmike says:

    “I don’t know. But I don’t see why that is Fauci’s fault, that R senators didn’t call Birx.”

    -I didn’t blame this on Fauci.

    I do wonder why Fauci emailed the N Y Times.

    Am I correct in saying that, or is my information incorrect?

  134. jason says:

    I would assume the NYT ASKED Fauci to email them with information on his testimony. This is routinely done, news outlets often get prepared testimony (or info about them) notes in advance.

    I don’t see what the issue is. If it has appeared on Fox, would you object. WSJ?

    I don’t see anything “partisan” here, sorry.

  135. jason says:

    Regarding what models are used, lots of information here.

    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/covid-data/forecasting-us.html

  136. dblaikie says:

    The truth is that Dr. Fauci, like him or hate him, said nothing new. And Jason is right, it is up to Trump to fashion the narrative concerning these issues. I think he will.

  137. NYCmike says:

    “If it has appeared on Fox, would you object.”

    -Has this happened?

    If it has, YES, I would object.

    Give it to all outlets, or none.

    He is going before a Senate committee as a government employee, not granting an exclusive interview.

  138. jason says:

    Ok, trying to read the tea leaves here with the data so far today.

    NY seems to be late with their initial data dump.

    But we have NJ, PA, FL, MD, GA and a few others.

    I am going to stick my neck out based on these that there will not be a huge spike today. FL seems the only one with a significant spike in cases.

    But it is early and we still have MA, IL, MI, NY…any one of them could come out with a huge number.

  139. Tina says:

    I am glad I did not watch the sheot show.

    Nothing worse than two gubment doctors and a group of Dumbarse Senators, except for Scott and Rand, and whomever this one is.

    Shem Horne
    @Shem_Infinite
    ·
    18m
    Senators Paul & Scott did great, talking about realistic expectations and moving goalposts. And I missed her name but the Senator that asked Fauci and the rest to dispel the media narrative that there is a confrontational and chaotic relationship with the President was great too.

  140. Tina says:

    Kayleigh Wh presser to start.

    Beat the Press episode 3

  141. jason says:

    He is going before a Senate committee as a government employee, not granting an exclusive interview.”

    He has given a huge number of exclusive interviews, I still don’t see the problem.

  142. jason says:

    And I missed her name but the Senator that asked Fauci and the rest to dispel the media narrative that there is a confrontational and chaotic relationship with the President was great too.”

    Didn’t see that.

    What did Fauci say.

  143. jason says:

    And the Fauci haters are forgetting something.

    All Fauci is saying is the states should follow the WH GUIDELINES.

    In other words, Trump’s own guidelines.

  144. Tina says:

    Jason, I don’t know. I did not watch it.

    I am only watching Beat the press.

  145. jason says:

    Ok, will be back later when we have more Worldometer numbers. Should be interesting to see if we keep to the downward trend.

  146. Tina says:

    Jason, it was loeffler that asked the question about trump,and faucis relationship.

  147. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1260203080076931072

    -This is in response to Wes and his comments saying earlier “Trump is just now realizing he can lose. In contrast, Obama and Clinton both realized that immediately after their midterms and began laying the groundwork shortly thereafter. Trump clearly missed a chance to define himself positively after the midterm, and Covid-19 hasn’t provided many opportunities for him to correct this oversight.”.

    It is ridiculous to say this. Trump had been campaigning and sending a clear message (Keep America Great!) up until late February when this pandemic became a clearer issue. Up until that point, Trump was running on the great economy (which Robbie refused to give him credit for).

    NOW, Trump has to redefine himself over the next 6 months, as the person to get the economy back on its feet (we shall see if Robbie gives him credit now), and hopefully his strategy is more successful than the Democratic crash-and-win-the-White-House strategy.

    Personally, I expect Wes to throw in the towel too early at 7PM, like last time, and then Trump, and Tillis, to make their comeback surely and steadily during the night. Fingers crossed the same happens in PA, WI, MI, etc (at least 270 Electoral Votes).

  148. janz says:

    Interesting anecdotal story: my husband’s friend has a brother who was part of Trump’s secret service detail during his earliest days of being president. This man’s description of Trump was that he was a “wonderful man” to work for. Such words are similar to other people’s comments, after having personal contact with Trump. In contrast, secret service people hated being around HRC, because of her uncouth conduct towards them. Ironic, isn’t it, the difference there often times is between someone’s private and public faces!

  149. NYCmike says:

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/bryan-adams-instagram-apology-1.5565996?cmp=rss

    -I would have bought a ticket to one of his shows, but now I see he is too busy apologizing.

  150. NYCmike says:

    ” Ironic, isn’t it, the difference there often times is between someone’s private and public faces!”

    -Not that ironic.

    The MSM is still very powerful in certain ways.

  151. Tina says:

    I hope he can benefit from an economy recovering.

    I spoke to a realtor and he says the market is still pretty good.
    He has seen worse.

    Also, in my locals, gasoline prices are up 10 cents.

    I think it is showing that the economy is reigniting,

  152. jason says:

    Bonchie at Redstate has what I would consider a fair criticism of Fauci. I don’t quite agree, but it is not over the top.

    I especially agree that at the end of the day, it is Trump’s job to decide how much of Fauci’s advice he wants to take.

    “If I had to summarize the issue, Fauci comes across as wanting to treat the entire country like New York City, whether he means for that to happen or not. That’s not a sustainable strategy, and in the absence of an alternative to a total economic meltdown, his statements aren’t helping with clarity regarding a legitimate path forward.

    Unfortunately, like all things in politics, this discussion has become polarized on the right, to the point where any criticism of Fauci results in charges of conspiracy theories and wanting people to die. That’s nonsense. It’s possible to believe Fauci has overstepped and/or been too loose with his pronouncements without believing he’s working for Bill Gates or any other such lunacy.

    At the end of the day, hard decisions have to be made by the President and the governors throughout the country. Those decisions can’t be made in the vacuum Facui resides in and speaks from.”

  153. Robbie says:

    dblaikie says:
    May 12, 2020 at 1:59 pm
    The truth is that Dr. Fauci, like him or hate him, said nothing new. And Jason is right, it is up to Trump to fashion the narrative concerning these issues. I think he will.

    – This is a good point. Whatever I think of Trump, he’s been very good at driving a message. Unfortunately, he’s spent much of the last two months being reactive rather than proactive. I understand why that is, but he really needs to develop a proactive message of hope and optimism and just push it over and over.

  154. jason says:

    I think things like home repair, real estate, construction can recover quickly.

    I worry more about the hotel, travel, entertainment, cruise, airline and restaurant/bar business.

  155. jason says:

    Fauci probably thinks every optimistic statement he makes kills people.

    It is a a hard burden to shoulder.

  156. Tina says:

    Shh, don’t tell you tube that China is the greatest thread.

    Jack Posobiec
    @JackPosobiec
    ·
    8m
    Who assassinated our CIA sources?

    Who hacked OPM?

    Who covered up COVID19?

    Who infiltrated DiFi’s Seante office?

    It wasn’t Russia

    It was China

  157. NYCmike says:

    “It is a a hard burden to shoulder.”

    -For such a “smart, intelligent” person, the fact that he doesn’t understand his pessimistic statements also kill people shows that you put way too much value in his supposed “intelligence”.

  158. Tina says:

    Kayleigh slams Pocahontas

    Blames Pocahontas for putting out false numbers at senate Fauci hearing.

    Says it impacts people getting treatments

  159. Tina says:

    If this amendmet does not pass, trump,should veto this.

    Chad Pergram
    @ChadPergram
    · 12m
    GOP KY Sen Paul on amdt to FISA bill: The amdt mendment says the (FISA) court should not surveil Americans..if you want to surveil an American, you go to a regular court, you get a regular judicial warrant, but you shouldn’t use secret ones on Americans

  160. NYCmike says:

    “If this amendmet does not pass, trump,should veto this.”

    -Definitely agree.

    There has too much documented abuse which can’t be ignored anymore.

  161. Tina says:

    Keyleifh kicking the arses of the presstitutes.

  162. Tina says:

    Yup, can fix a sheotty bill without that amendment.

    Also, there was too much Abuse by the Obumbler.
    #obamagate

  163. NYCmike says:

    https://9to5mac.com/2020/05/11/iphone-production/

    -jason,

    Is this good or bad, IN YOUR WORLD?

  164. NYCmike says:

    More important question for jason: If llama antibodies are shown to help reduce the affect of the Wuhan virus, will the A-Holes receive any future patent $$?

  165. NYCmike says:

    https://reason.com/2020/05/12/cops-arrest-brooklyn-rabbi-for-letting-kids-ages-11-8-and-2-walk-to-the-store/

    -Looks like the emergency situation in NYC has reduced far enough that the police have time enough to act like jack*sses.

  166. jason says:

    Maybe wes is right…

    “The slide resulted in Biden’s net favorability among women falling underwater for the first time since the nadir of his primary campaign in February, with 46 percent viewing him unfavorably and 44 viewing him favorably. Taken together, it marks a 6-point drop in net favorability among women since the April 20-26 poll, driven by women ages 30 to 65 — the voting bloc that strategists on either side of the aisle credit with fueling Democratic victories in 2018 House races.”

  167. jason says:

    Biden will not win the election if a majority of women view him unfavorably.

    You read it here first.

    But I still doubt that will be the case in November.

  168. jason says:

    I praised Rand Paul earlier.

    Now that he is standing up for terrorists again, things are back to normal.

    We need a FISA court. Even if it was abused in the past.

  169. jason says:

    https://9to5mac.com/2020/05/11/iphone-production/

    -jason,

    Is this good or bad, IN YOUR WORLD?”

    Neutral. I would say it was bad if the production was being brought back to the US because of the AFL-CIO agenda.

    If it is being shifted to India for the same reasons it was shifted to China, solid economic reasons, then I have zero problem.

    I am for free trade with India too, not just China.

  170. jason says:

    More important question for jason: If llama antibodies are shown to help reduce the affect of the Wuhan virus, will the A-Holes receive any future patent $$?”

    Yes, because A-holes are immune to conflict of interest issues.

    We put it in the By-laws so there would be no doubt.

  171. NYCmike says:

    “I am for free trade with India too, not just China.”

    -I hope India is for FREE TRADE with us as well, unlike China, which has plenty of barriers in our way.

  172. Robbie says:

    Los Angeles extended its stay at home order THREE MONTHS!

    We’ve lost our minds.

  173. Phil says:

    Jason. How are we going to handle this after Friday’s bet? Will you submit an actual letter of recommendation to the to the A-Hole membership committee? Make a sweeping message of endorsement or what is the process you intend to use to make your support known. All of the above are perfectly fine to me.

  174. lisab says:

    LA county to stay closed through july

  175. Phil says:

    “We” haven’t, Robbie. Don’t be so quick to throw us all in there. You should say “they”.

  176. Robbie says:

    Looks like Pritzker got the memo. Illinois reported 4000 new cases today.

  177. Tina says:

    And Nuissance won’t fight la la land.

    Watch the fascist mini me in Sf do the same sheot.

  178. NYCmike says:

    “LA county to stay closed through july”

    -Why wouldn’t they?

    They received authorization from Fauci this morning.

    ALL citizens MUST be tested before reopening, just like ALL KIDS must be tested before school starts up.

  179. NYCmike says:

    Somehow, jason can’t see the connections between what Fauci “innocently” says and what the blue-state politicians do.

  180. Country Dick Montana says:

    When you have lost the surfers…

  181. Robbie says:

    Anyone who thinks Fauci wasn’t sending a thumbs up message to “shutdown forever” crowd this morning hasn’t been paying attention. No sooner than Fauci spoke, Los Angeles County announced a three month shutdown and the California University system announced it plans to scrap most in-person classes and go online. There goes Pac12 football and basketball. Just give Newsom a bit more time and he’ll find a way to scuttle the NFL as well.

  182. Tina says:

    Nuissance just allowed reopening of all restaurants in Ca.

    Of course, many sf Bay Area countries will not reopen sheot.

    (Only take out was allowed)

  183. NYCmike says:

    “Looks like Pritzker got the memo. Illinois reported 4000 new cases today.”

    -Robbie,

    Isn’t it so shocking to see these Democratic elected representatives acting in these ways?

    They are a breath of fresh air, compared to that neanderthal living in the White House, aren’t they?

  184. Wes says:

    You and I will disagree on your analysis, Joe.

    You’ve concluded a perennially unpopular President currently trailing his expected rival in both national polls and those for critical states is in no serious danger of losing reelection.

    I’ve concluded he’s very much in danger of losing reelection precisely because he’s an unpopular President trailing his opponent.

    I guess we’ll find out who’s right in six months.

  185. lisab says:

    Biden will not win the election if a majority of women view him unfavorably.

    You read it here first.

    But I still doubt that will be the case in November.
    ——————————————-

    biden’s problem is enthusiasm

    there were a LOT of women who would have crawled through broken glass on fire to vote for hillary

    biden does not have that

    he does not have the enthusiasm of the bernie bros either

    the dnc’s fundraising was pathetic, even with bloomberg giving them $18 million and he has said he will NOT donate $500 million to biden, as he said he would in the primary

    the dnc does not even have money to run the dnc convention — virtual or not

  186. Joe J says:

    Wes, We will soon enough. There will be a lot of twists and turns in the meantime.

    I just happen to think his perceived unpopularity is a bit overstated, just enough to throw another narrow win in his direction, as of now. It can all turn on a dime.

  187. lisab says:

    i mean that the dnc convention fund is less than $1 million

    a lot less

    the dnc WILL and have been paying the payroll of the convention

  188. lisab says:

    if california and ny and other blue states remain closed

    a lot of big businesses will move to texas and the southern states

  189. Pitchaboy says:

    Dr. Fauci can even tank the markets. Powerful for a tiny guy.

  190. DW says:

    My take on the race is fairly simple, and not far off from Wes’ take.

    The 2018 mid-term contained a huge anti-Trump element that I don’t think has evaporated. The GOP has lost its fair share of special elections as part of that hatred for Trump.

    Trump has committed a number of unforced errors, but that’s what loose cannons do. Its why I wasn’t for Trump in the 2016 GOP primary. One thing that helps him a bit is his transparency–some young people like the fact that he has no filter.

    But when the dust settles, Trump is in fact in danger of losing. I would put it at 50/50 right now, with a slight edge perhaps being against him.

    If the Dems had a strong candidate, it would be all but over.

    One important point. Last time, 2016, Clinton and the party powerbrokers didn’t bother to cheat, lie and steal. They didn’t have to and didn’t want to risk any sort of scandal because they had the election in the bag. They were a self-obsessed echo chamber. They couldn’t lose, until they lost.

    Dems won’t make that mistake this time. They will lie. They will cheat. They will steal. They will commit every illegal act possible to ensure Trump does not win. They will play dirty, then dirtier.

    The media will overlook it all to give them cover.

    Biden is the one thing that can rescue Trump. I believe the dementia is real, and it won’t get better. To win, Trump will have to once again do better among hispanics and black, and somehow improve his standing among among suburban women.

    Ok, that wasn’t short after all, but that’s where I think it stands now. 50/50 at best.

  191. Country Dick Montana says:

    a lot of big businesses will move to texas and the southern states

    Unfortunately that leaves a lot of people on the lower end of the wage scale (wait staff, retail, etc) in those blue states without jobs.

  192. Robbie says:

    Wes says:
    May 12, 2020 at 4:07 pm
    You and I will disagree on your analysis, Joe.
    You’ve concluded a perennially unpopular President currently trailing his expected rival in both national polls and those for critical states is in no serious danger of losing reelection.
    I’ve concluded he’s very much in danger of losing reelection precisely because he’s an unpopular President trailing his opponent.
    I guess we’ll find out who’s right in six months.

    – Surprisingly, I think Trump’s better positioned today because of coronavirus than he was before it. I’d don’t think he’s the favorite and I think he’s likely to lose, but this outbreak affords him an opportunity. If the number of cases goes down substantially over the Summer, some of the jobs return, and, most importantly, he can announce a vaccine emergency approval, it would scramble the race to his benefit. I think he’d have a good chance of winning if he can announce an emergency approval of a vaccine.

  193. Wes says:

    I don’t buy the idea that Trump’s unpopularity is some kind of overstated meme. We see repeated evidence of it not only in polling but in actual election results.

    Trump has done a good job of making his supporters believe any unfavorable news is fake news. The problem is that that perception then distorts their worldview and makes them blind to everything happening around them.

  194. Big E says:

    Everybody is assuming that Biden is above water in approval. I do not believe that he is. If he is even or underwater then Biden will get crushed. The ads that he struggle to reply to over the summer will define him since it has been peaches and cream from the media. What is left will be destroyed during the debates, as Biden is guaranteed to be a gaffe or optics failure. His only hope is that the media will claim that he did better than anticipated. Don’t forget that their convention will likely be a disaster as the Bernie bros will go off the deep e d.
    Does anybody believe that Biden can give a thirty minute speech. He can’t give a 5 min speech with a teleprompter. The media will not be able to cover for him. Polling now means nothing. Let the events unfold before making predictions.

  195. DW says:

    Its interesting Wes, I have had BOTH a hardened Never Trumper as well as a flag-waving long-time fan of Trump tell me that he absolutely has no chance of losing. His re-election is just above 99.9% sure.

    I think they are both wrong and both miss what is actually going on. Obviously we know what is going to happen in most states. Right now it comes down to 13 states to decide who wins. These include AZ, FL, GA, IA, ME, MI, MN, NC, NH, NV, OH, PA, and WI.

    If we wish to narrow it down further it is probably these states: AZ, FL, MI, NC, OH, PA and WI.

    AZ: Can Trump hold on once more against a demographic shift?

    FL: Will the I-4 corridor go enough Trump’s way?

    MI: Starting to look like a long shot for Trump.

    NC: After OH, probably Trump’s most sure state in this collection.

    OH: Trump probably wins it, but he absolutely must.

    PA: Could easily go either way.

    WI: Will the same demographic turn out again for Trump?

    So it matters little if small clusters of Trump fans in Alabama are even more excited this time around. It matters little if San Fran bay area Dems hate him even more than 4 years ago.

    Its all decided by small pockets of voters in those key states.

  196. Joe J says:

    Maybe I’m the cockeyed optimist and I will have no shame in adjusting my outlook as time goes on and this election season unfolds and more facts present themselves, either way.

    However, I live in blue NJ and am immersed with NYC media elitism constantly on the news so I understand the hatred runs deep in these parts. Although, living in one of the reddest parts of the state, it does take the edge off, thankfully.

    I can’t and I wont argue with Trump’s unpopularity. It’s stubbornly high and will remain there. There is about 42-43% of the electorate that will vote Biden as a big “F you” to Trump. They would vote for bag of sand if it had a D next to it.

    I just do not think Biden will prove himself to be a viable alternative. The senile is most definitely real. He has a small but steady advantage nationally and in most of the swing states due to him not being out and campaigning. The Reade issue isn’t going away though and I do think it will be a slow drain on him all summer/fall.

    Dems may go overboard with a divisive VP pick, think Warren or *gulp* Harris, neither of which I think helps the ticket. Warren would be better than Harris but both are deeply flawed and easy for the Trump campaign to define negatively. Klobuchar is a safer pick but then again, so was Kaine…

    Hillary WAS a shoo-in and dems thought they had it in the bag, yes. They will not underestimate the election this time, agreed. But Trump’s ground game was a joke in 2016, not so in 2020. Plus he will not be outspent like he was in 2016.

    I do agree with DW though, if the dems had a stronger candidate (not sure who), Trump would be toast and I’d be the first to admit it.

  197. jason says:

    -I hope India is for FREE TRADE with us as well, unlike China, which has plenty of barriers in our way.”

    Sighhh….. this the favorite AFL-CIO conservative talking point.

    “Barriers”.

    There are always going to be “barriers”. There are always going to be isolationist and protectionists. There are always going to be cheaters and intellectual property issues.

    But if you are going to forego the principle of free trade and wait until every country is barrier free, not protectionist, not communist, and not this and not that (the list is endless) you are never going to have free trade, are you?

    But I guess that is the idea.

  198. jason says:

    I do agree with DW though, if the dems had a stronger candidate (not sure who), Trump would be toast and I’d be the first to admit it.”

    I actually don’t agree with this, unless you mean someone who was not running or not a contender. I always thought Hickenlooper and Bullock might be more dangerous than the front runners.

    I think Kamala Harris, Bernie Sanders, and Elizabeth Warren are much weaker than Biden. I would trade for any of them.

    The strongest of the contenders was Klobuchar, not because she is a formidable candidate, but because she was able to sell herself as a “moderate”, when really she is a radical leftist.

    Biden is high risk/high reward. If he can run out the clock on his dementia, he could win by winning PA and MI. He could also self destruct.

  199. jason says:

    Let the events unfold before making predictions.”

    Hello??

    That is NOT the HHR way, man.

  200. Joe J says:

    Jason,

    Definitely not one of the 2020 dem flunkies. It would have to be someone out of that group. Not sure who.

    Agreed on Klobuchar. Heck, As a Trump voter, if Trump loses and Klob is on the ticket as VP, I wouldn’t feel that she would try to utterly destroy the country at once. Should would be your typical do-nothing liberal generic D which sadly, would be better than some of those even further left radicals.

  201. Robbie says:

    The number of new cases today would have likely been in the high teens again were it not for fat Pritzker goosing the totals in Illinois.

  202. jason says:

    Well, Klobuchar is a committed socialist, don’t be fooled. I don’t really think she is “better” than anybody except maybe Sanders. These people are all radical leftists with only small degrees of separation. On every major issue, they think alike. One might spend a trillion more down the climate change rathole than the other, but they will all spend trillions.

  203. Joe J says:

    We should still be thankful they weren’t even higher, Pritzker looks like he ate a few of the victims.

  204. jason says:

    But even so we are at less than 20k cases today, even with a 4000 IL dump.

    Deaths lag cases, so the steady drop in cases will reflect in the death numbers sooner or later.

  205. Joe J says:

    She sure is. I just don’t think she has that “killer” drive to push her radical agenda as far as some of the others would. I see her as being a bit of a squish from time to time. Hopefully we never find out.

  206. jason says:

    The benchmark for today is May 5, one week ago.

    Deaths 2350
    Cases 24798

    We want to be under for both numbers.

    The states still out will report small numbers. The question is will one of the “heavy hitters” come through for the team like IL did.

  207. jason says:

    “I see her as being a bit of a squish from time to time.”

    Not so sure.

    Her reputation is that she is a real ball buster.

  208. NYCmike says:

    “But if you are going to forego the principle of free trade and wait until every country is barrier free, not protectionist, not communist, and not this and not that (the list is endless) you are never going to have free trade, are you?”

    -Not the case at all.

    It’s been about 50 years since Nixon went to China, where as India has had a functioning democracy for more than that.

    I believe there is a “small” (not sure of how you define words, so in this case I mean BIG, like in YUGE!) difference between the 2 countries, when it comes to working within an international framework of nations.

    You disagree?

  209. jason says:

    The IHME model upped the deaths to about 147k, a 7% increase.

    But their daily death numbers are not jiving with the actual, so it seems subjective based on what they think reopening WILL cause.

    They did not update the actual curve, it is still “projected” from May 8, although they could have used real numbers.

    Hard to fathom.

    https://covid19.healthdata.org/united-states-of-america

  210. jason says:

    I believe there is a “small” (not sure of how you define words, so in this case I mean BIG, like in YUGE!) difference between the 2 countries, when it comes to working within an international framework of nations.

    You disagree?”

    No, but to me it is completely irrelevant.

    That is because free trade should be the governing PRINCIPLE of OUR country.

    Your theory that “I prefer to trade with India because at least they are not communists” is exactly the kind of thinking I criticized above. It has nothing to do with the principle of free trade. It only means trading with China might be more challenging than trading with India. But there are of course other considerations. China might be a bigger market than India. It might have more skilled labor availability, or more natural resources, or better infrastructure.

    Once you get into the game of “I only want free trade with X, Y and Z because they do X, Y and Z” then that is not free trade.

  211. Phil says:

    California set to deliver a big number of cases today when their numbers are finally delivered. 950 cases from LA alone with none of the other top 10 metro counties in yet.

  212. Robbie says:

    We are committing cultural, societal, and economic suicide. Unless we pull a rabbit out of the hat with a treatment or vaccine soon, there will be no getting out of this death spiral we’re in and that precisely what it is.

    I’d wager we’ll be living with social distancing guidelines well into 2022, maybe even 2023. Governors and their health advisors are never going to give up the power they gained in March.

    I really don’t think people are adequately pricing in just how perilous this moment in our history is. A year from now, we could be out of this, but we might also be just 15 months into an era of persistent misery where schools haven’t been open the entire time, sports have all but ceased, and unemployment sits at 20% or so.

  213. Tina says:

    eeted

    Political Polls
    @PpollingNumbers
    ·
    1h
    Trump Job Approval:

    Approve 51%
    Disapprove 49%

    @Harris_X_
    /
    @thehill
    Poll

  214. NYCmike says:

    “That is because free trade should be the governing PRINCIPLE of OUR country.”

    -A stated goal?

    Yes.

    A Governing Principle, with no regard for reciprocal action?

    No, I disagree. You must be a big Kool-Aid drinker.

  215. NYCmike says:

    “I really don’t think people are adequately pricing in just how perilous this moment in our history is.”

    -This coming from the guy who would rather have Hillary telling us what to do right now!

  216. Robbie says:

    I’ve chosen not contemplate the worst case scenario, but I think it’s on the table now. LA will remain closed for months and California universities aren’t going to be in-person this Fall. Does anyone think Newsom will allow grade schools and high schools to open right now? California’s shuttered economy will play a huge role in any economic rebound. Newsom knows that so he’s going for the kill shot on Trump’s presidency.

    The big fear, clearly one dunces like Newsom haven’t figured out yet, is the wave of bankruptcies that come from the depression Fauci gave us is banks will begin to fail once their bad loans can’t be repaid. At first it will be small, regional banks, but eventually that will bleed over to the big banks. And when that happens, the market will nose dive waiting for TARP II.

    There are some smart economic advisors around Trump. Hassett is one and so is Joe Lovergna who works for Kudlow. I imagine they realize how desperate the moment is, but it’s not easy to make these fears known in an election year.

    Social distancing and irrational fear are doing tremendous harm to our way of life. There’s time to forestall the damage, but we’re probably talking months at the most.

  217. NYCmike says:

    I must have missed that line in the Constitution…..maybe it was in the Penumbra…..”we must have FREE TRADE with countries who wish to destroy us, as it is one of our Governing Principles!”

  218. Phil says:

    Flattening the curve got the foot in the door.

    Now it’s “let’s not open until it’s safe.”

    LOL. Here’s a hint. It will never be “safe”

    See how this works.

    Agree that we are committing economic and societal suicide…..and it will never end.

  219. Phil says:

    Sorry. It will never end until Trump is driven from the WH.

  220. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    May 12, 2020 at 6:14 pm
    Sorry. It will never end until Trump is driven from the WH.

    – I don’t know. The people around Biden are more pro-lockdown than President Fauci. I think we could see an even more restrictive lockdown imposed in late January 2021 if Biden wins. Moreover, watch for Biden to say we can’t get our country vaccinated first. We need to share our doses with other countries. Maintaining the control over our lives is paramount to them. The longer it lasts, the more they assume we’ll come to accept it. We’re at very important inflection point right now.

  221. Tina says:

    With the abuses, they don’t need it for sure.

    This was another Bush era dumb program.

    Adam Housley
    @adamhousley
    ·
    56m
    I’m told the
    @fbi
    is terrified about losing its FISA capabilities. That was the word to me “terrified” and many are pissed at what they call the “Comeyites”

  222. Tina says:

    DONALD TRUMP’S APPROVAL RATING REACHES HIGHEST POINT SINCE 2017 AS ADMINISTRATION BATTLES CORONAVIRUS, NEW POLL SHOWS
    BY EDDY RODRIGUEZ ON 5/12/20 AT 4:45 PM EDT

    https://t.co/DaaOAHecKi?amp=1

  223. Tina says:

    It’s enough spoke piglosis poodle.

    Daily Caller
    @DailyCaller
    · 1h
    Sen. Chuck Schumer says it is time to move on from the Tara Reade sexual assault allegation against Joe Biden:

    “I’ve heard Joe Biden’s explanation, I think it’s sufficient. I think he will be a great candidate.”

  224. Tina says:

    Translated

    We lose Ca 25 due to voter fraud.

    M.Joseph Sheppard
    @SHEPMJS
    ·
    36s
    Weep
    “CA25 officials are required to accept ballots received up to 3 days after Election Day postmarked/mailed by Election Day.Significant share of votes will not be tallied until days or possibly even weeks post election. Late vote has strongly favored Democrats in recent years,

  225. NYCmike says:

    I should point out, so that jason doesn’t make it up – NOWHERE did I mention tariffs.

    I believe in free trade with countries who also want to participate in free trade. I know that there will be some occurrence of less-than-free-trade, as we are the United States, and other countries do NOT have our economic clout.

    BUT, when countries like China, who are in many ways our equal, refuse to abide by the same rules as the rest of the (industrially) developed world, it is wise and prudent to look to find other trading partners, or to bring some industries home (such as specific items needed for defense purposes).

    I see no reason not to actively search for newer trade partners, and also to re-evaluate ALL of the costs, especially those not apparent in normal times, associated with trading with a country like China.

  226. Country Dick Montana says:

    I personally have no problem with China providing iPhones, appliances and other “want” trinkets. I don’t want to depend on them for anything related to medical/health care or a single component that goes into our military capabilities or essential infrastructure, those things that we absolutely need.

  227. NYCmike says:

    “We need a FISA court. Even if it was abused in the past.”

    -FISA Court established in 1978.

    Before that, the United States was a 3rd World country.

    Also, disregard that the “F” in FISA stands for Foreign…….

  228. Tina says:

    Bush started the corruption in fisa.

    Blame it in Mukehead and then his protege, comedy.

  229. Tina says:

    Holy sheot, Rico violations?

    Adam Housley
    @adamhousley
    · 30m
    Remember….things start as a query. Then spins up to an investigation with power to compel. Then to a Grand Jury for marginal indictments. Then Grand Jury indictments put forward in RICO type prosecution. I am told we are near the end. It’s a matter of who and when?

  230. jason says:

    I must have missed that line in the Constitution…..maybe it was in the Penumbra…..”we must have FREE TRADE with countries who wish to destroy us, as it is one of our Governing Principles!”

    I never said it was in the Constitution.

    You really are a moron.

  231. jason says:

    We need a FISA court. Even if it was abused in the past.”

    -FISA Court established in 1978.”

    Yep. but things changed, and the world changed on 9/11.

    We need surveillance, and we need a FISA court.

    If it is corrupt, it needs to be fixed, not eliminated.

  232. Pitchaboy says:

    Rumors from inner circles of Wolf: No plan to go to green phase in PA until after Jan 2021.

  233. Pitchaboy says:

    Trump numbers are up because he is not arguing with morons daily and his opponent frankly scares a lot of people. I am going out on a limb and predicting Dopey Joe will lose suburban white women and the election

  234. jason says:

    I believe in free trade with countries who also want to participate in free trade. ”

    Stop lying.

    You don’t believe in free trade, stop pretending.

    Why not just be honest about it instead of “I believe in free trade but, but, but, but, but, but”.

    If you think you can have free trade but, but, but, but and but, you don’t have free trade.

    A lot of people are protectionists and isolationists and believe in the failed AFL-CIO agenda of the last 70 years.

    I left the party because the Republican Party is no longer the party of free trade. Or free markets. Or free enterprise. Or small government.

  235. jason says:

    No plan to go to green phase in PA until after Jan 2021.”

    Elections have consequences.

  236. Phil says:

    Not only did Pa voters elect that nitwit, they re-elected him by double the margin he was elected by in the first place.

    Unfortunately, Pa voters brought this on themselves….punishment is thus justified.

  237. NYCmike says:

    jason: Good evening Chairman Xi. Can we get a deal on some rope?

  238. Robbie says:

    Funny how Wolfe’s plan coincides with inauguration day.

  239. NYCmike says:

    “I left the party because the Republican Party is no longer the party of free trade. Or free markets. Or free enterprise. Or small government.”

    -Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, and this last part happened more after 1988 than the last 3 years, although Trump’s refusal to veto spending bills was a lost chance. Bush Senior never really believed in Reagan’s ideas about governance.

  240. NYCmike says:

    “Funny how Wolfe’s plan coincides with inauguration day.”

    -I was under the impression that date was a joke.

  241. Country Dick Montana says:

    No plan to go to green phase in PA until after Jan 2021.”

    He is going to have to come up with a lot more dead people than he is getting now. The “T” will eventually rebel. The repercussions may cause that idiot Conner Lamb to have to find new work.

  242. jason says:

    Trump is an isolationist and protectionist who has been against free trade for at least 40 years, it is the one thing he has been absolutely consistent on. If you research it, you can find his position has never wavered. He believes in a trade policy based on tariffs. Not only China of course, with everyone from Europe to Mexico to South America and Asia. Pretending it is otherwise is just ludicrous. That is a core belief and he has stuck with it for decades.

    And most of Republican voters now share that view, you can see it here on HHR. There are maybe 3 or 4 of us that believe in free trade, the vast majority don’t. I am not talking about the Dems and trolls, I am talking about people who state they are conservative.

    It is unfortunate, and it is a big reason why I no longer feel comfortable in the Republican Party.

    The dominant wing of the Republican Party of today is opposed to free trade, free markets and free enterprise, and enamored with big government. Trump was never a small government guy, and he still isn’t.

  243. Country Dick Montana says:

    Perhaps Pitch can answer this. One of the things that I am starting to see is that the percentage of CONFIRMED cases that eventually become deaths is decreasing. Comparing the number of new deaths on a particular day to the number of cases 14 days earlier was resulting in about 8% death rate 3 weeks ago. It has consistently dropped and is now down to less than 5.5%

    SO. We are seeing cases dropping (based on the 7 day rolling average) and the percentage of deaths also dropping. Hopefully if this continues daily deaths will decrease dramatically.

  244. jason says:

    As an independent, I no longer feel obligated to vote in primaries for Republicans that no longer share the ideals that first attracted me to the party when I moved to this country.

    I will vote for Trump in the fall because I don’t want my kids to live under socialism, and I see Trump as a temporary buffer against it. But I am under no illusions that Trump has any interest in limited government and free markets and free enterprise.

  245. jason says:

    that idiot Conner Lamb to have to find new work.”

    Remember when Lamb was supposedly a moderate who wanted to reach across the aisle?

    That lasted about 10 seconds and now he is Pelosi’s lap dog.

  246. Pitchaboy says:

    As testing expands to include less severe cases the percent with adverse outcomes will start to fall. All indications are we are in the later stages of the epidemic. Believe Oxford said that UK are out of epidemic stage and now in sporadic/endemic status

  247. Pitchaboy says:

    Agree with Jason. We have a Big Government party and a Bigger Government party.

  248. Robbie says:

    Pitchaboy says:
    May 12, 2020 at 7:39 pm
    As testing expands to include less severe cases the percent with adverse outcomes will start to fall. All indications are we are in the later stages of the epidemic. Believe Oxford said that UK are out of epidemic stage and now in sporadic/endemic status

    – I’ve been following an account on Twitter called @ethicalskeptic. He’s been making this point for a while. States have the money to test enough to make it appear as though there is still a crisis.

    I would encourage everyone to take a look at the account. He was in naval intelligence and is a numbers guy who provides planning for hospitals. He’s followed by Sean Trende and Brit Hume.

    Every day based on the Covid19 tracking project he provides charts to determine how many have really been infected, what the mortality rate is (.25%), and whether or not we are increasing or declining.

    The best chart is the one where he compares the daily fluctuations of this outbreak to SARS in 2003. I went back and read every tweet of his since February 1. His insights and general accuracy has been really impressive.

  249. jason says:

    I don’t know why NYC is whining?

    His view has prevailed. Should be celebrating. Tariffs have made their biggest comeback since 1930. Rejoice.

  250. jason says:

    Poor ole Goober has made Tina’s RINO list, poor bastard.

  251. NYCmike says:

    “Trump is an isolationist and protectionist who has been against free trade for at least 40 years, it is the one thing he has been absolutely consistent on. If you research it, you can find his position has never wavered. He believes in a trade policy based on tariffs. Not only China of course, with everyone from Europe to Mexico to South America and Asia. Pretending it is otherwise is just ludicrous. That is a core belief and he has stuck with it for decades.”

    -Bullsh*t.

    Trump does believe in using tariffs as a negotiating weapon to get better deals where the other side has kept in place their own trade barriers. As we have often seen (note: I didn’t say ALWAYS) the last 3+ years, threatened tariffs are most often not implemented as the 2, or more, parties reach a mutually agreeable deal.

  252. NYCmike says:

    “We have a Big Government party and a Bigger Government party.”

    -Also agree with this.

    Too many “Republicans” like jason not willing to fight for smaller government.

  253. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Los Angeles County’s top health offical came out and said they may continue the stay-at-home order for three months. It set off a fire storm. Mayor Garcetti clarified her statement, saying what she meant was the Los Angeles would not fully reopen, not that the lockdown would stay the same.

  254. Country Dick Montana says:

    260 – They keep that up it is going to be a long hot summer in CA. Rioting eventually.

  255. Wes says:

    NYCmike says:
    May 12, 2020 at 8:31 pm
    “We have a Big Government party and a Bigger Government party.”

    -Also agree with this.

    Too many “Republicans” like jason not willing to fight for smaller government.

    Christine O’Done’ll, Aaron Day, and Dick the Misogynist Bastard Mourdock are all really fighting for small government right now, aren’t they, Mikey?

  256. Wes says:

    O’Donnell*

  257. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Great Comment from a resident of Los Angeles:

    “I’m done. Sorry, but I gave covid 19 the last 3 months of my life. I just don’t care anymore. I’m going out, I’m visiting (willing) friends. Not going to live my life inside for a virus that 99% survive. If I get it, fine. If I die, fine. This needs to stop.

  258. Robbie says:

    Anthony Fauci is the embodiment of the tyranny of the unelected bureaucrat.

  259. Robbie says:

    I’ve been in and out of LA, San Diego, and San Francisco plenty of times. I love the weather in San Diego. But outside of the weather in Southern California, why would anyone live there unless it’s been a your lifelong home?

  260. Tina says:

    Sidney Powell files motion against judge Obama Emmetts order for amicus briefs.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1260365744333893641/photo/1

  261. jason says:

    Too many “Republicans” like jason not willing to fight for smaller government.”

    LOL

    This is the guy who fought to elect “small government” senators like Coons, Bennett, Reid, Jones, Donelly, McCaskill…

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  262. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    I spend a considerable part of every other week in southern Utah. Few restrictions; very few people wear face masks. State parks and outdoor areas open — national parks beginning to open. Returning to California is like a trip back to prison.

  263. Tina says:

    Judge Obama Sullivan previously refused amicus briefs

    Of note is Judge Sullivan’s prior denial of amicus briefing:

    “Options exist for a private citizen to express his views about matters of public interest, but the Court’s docket is not an available option.”

    Read the full motion here:

    https://scribd.com/document/461154903/US-v-Flynn-Motion-opposing-Amicus…

  264. Country Dick Montana says:

    1630 deaths today, a 62% increase over Monday but following the typical pattern. 31% decrease from last Tuesday.

    Another week of this and I will be a believer.

    Rolling 7 Day Average Deaths

    4/23 – 2178
    4/24 – 2095
    4/25 – 2124
    4/26 – 2066
    4/27 – 1987
    4/28 – 1959
    4/29 – 1966
    4/30 – 1946
    5/01 – 1938
    5/02 – 1884
    5/03 – 1884
    5/04 – 1875
    5/05 – 1858
    5/06 – 1878
    5/07 – 1867
    5/08 – 1837
    5/09 – 1799
    5/10 – 1741
    5/11 – 1696
    5/12 – 1593

    Last 6 Tuesdays

    4/7 – 1970
    4/14 – 2407
    4/21 – 2665
    4/28 – 2470
    5/5 – 2350
    5/12 – 1630

  265. Country Dick Montana says:

    And for those interested in cases. A continued slow steady decline in the face of increased testing. While there are those worried that Dem governors will continue to use cases as the standard, it has always been my belief that the PEOPLE will follow deaths.

    Rolling 7 Day Average Cases

    4/20 – 28863
    4/21 – 28726
    4/22 – 28673
    4/23 – 29010
    4/24 – 29928
    4/25 – 30865
    4/26 – 30960
    4/27 – 30256
    4/28 – 30174
    4/29 – 29953
    4/30 – 29797
    5/01 – 29427
    5/02 – 28585
    5/03 – 28709
    5/04 – 28926
    5/05 – 28838
    5/06 – 28414
    5/07 – 28215
    5/08 – 27515
    5/09 – 26652
    5/10 – 25645
    5/11 – 24714
    5/12 – 24429

  266. Phil says:

    Hey, was this guy Fauci that testified today that we should all be wearing masks the same guy who I just saw on a clip from March 8th in which he poo pooed the idea?

    Just wondering.

  267. Bitterlaw says:

    24. Zzzzzzzzz

    Phil thinks that people who did not vote for Wolf deserve the shutdown? Fine.

    The next time a hurricane or tornado or flash flood kills people in Texas I won’t feel bad for them. They chose to live there. As Phil said, you reap what you sow.

  268. jason says:

    Trump does believe in using tariffs”

    You could have stopped there.

    “Weapon” my ass.

    For him, tariffs are the beginning, the middle and the end.

    He has believed that for 40 years or more.

  269. Tina says:

    There is tape of Fauci saying masks are no good, Phil.

    This was a few years ago.

  270. NYCmike says:

    “He has believed that for 40 years or more.”

    -I guess we will ignore the agreements signed in the last 3+ years.

  271. jason says:

    IHME Model

    Projected Actual
    May 1 2343 1897 – 446
    May 2 2276 1691 – 585
    May 3 2265 1153 -1112
    May 4 2205 1324 – 881
    May 5 2180 2350 + 170
    May 6 2143 2528 + 385
    May 7 2097 2129 + 32
    May 8 2039 1687 – 352
    May 9 1971 1422 – 549
    May10 1921 750 – 1171
    May11 1898 1008 – 890
    May12 1803 1630 – 173

  272. Tina says:

    Add ventilator, ventilator, ventilator.

    Larry Schweikart Retweeted

    StopTheMadness ??????
    @pudelzrock
    ·
    1h
    Replying to
    @LarrySchweikart
    New list of phrases I never want to hear again:

    Flatten the curve
    Mitigation
    Social distancing
    New normal
    Testing testing testing

  273. Tina says:

    A presstitute mentioned ventilators today.

    Specifically, one Russian ventilator blew up in another country.
    Russia apparently donated some of us,

    But we have 100,000 ventilators now in 100 days. American made

  274. Phil says:

    They chose to give him the power, bitter – twice.

    Their choice.

  275. jason says:

    New cases May 12 22,802
    New cases May 5 24,798

    Deaths May 12 1630
    Deaths May 5 2350

  276. Wes says:

    Bitterlaw says:
    May 12, 2020 at 9:00 pm
    24. Zzzzzzzzz

    Phil thinks that people who did not vote for Wolf deserve the shutdown? Fine.

    The next time a hurricane or tornado or flash flood kills people in Texas I won’t feel bad for them. They chose to live there. As Phil said, you reap what you sow.

    You said you intend to be the bitch of anyone elected in PA, Bitter. That’s on you.

  277. Phil says:

    The Illinois dick did his part. Wolf was a disappointment today. I’m sure he will make up for it tomorrow…….for the voters of Pa of course.

  278. Phil says:

    Elections have consequences.

  279. Country Dick Montana says:

    Common Phil, you’re hurting old County Dick here. I’m just an old oil patch guy up here in the Texas part of PA. I didn’t vote for Wolf and I certainly don’t want to be his bitch.

  280. jason says:

    “He has believed that for 40 years or more.”

    -I guess we will ignore the agreements signed in the last 3+ years.”

    Why?

    They all involved tariffs. They all restricted trade, increased barriers.

    For the AFL-CIO conservatives, win-win.

  281. Country Dick Montana says:

    Did you know that in Southwest, PA you are more likely to see white pick ups with Texas plates than you are to see PA plates. Same with WV and Southeast Ohio.

  282. jason says:

    Phil is right that the people of PA deserve Wolf.

    It is sad but true.

    No free lunch.

  283. jason says:

    There is tape of Fauci saying masks are no good, Phil.

    This was a few years ago.”

    Horrors!

    Is there one of him jay walking in 1967?

  284. Bitterlaw says:

    I can’t believe I wasted money donating to flood relief charities in Houston. Won’t make that mistake on Texas again.

    Wes and Phil think people deserve bad things because of where they live. Fair enough. Hurricane season is coming and I don’t care what happens in the Gulf of Mexico or Outer Banks.

  285. jason says:

    There is tape of Fauci saying masks are no good, Phil.”

    Yes, probably a different time, different disease, different context, different scenario.

    But if it can be used to slime Fauci, nothing is too low.

  286. jason says:

    Bitter, Phil isn’t going to win his bet, but I am going to sponsor him anyway, he certainly has A-hole tendencies.

  287. Bitterlaw says:

    2 points – Criticizing Wes for being critical of Trump’s chances is b.s. I could fill an entire thread with posts critical of Wes for many reasons. However, his analysis on political issues (except regarding GWB) is detailed, substantive and well thought out. He is right more often than he is wrong.

    Regarding Fauci – He is a doctor. It is not his job to open the economy. If I was ill, I would go to see Pitch because he is a doctor. I would not ask him about my stock portfolio or what car to buy.

  288. Bitterlaw says:

    Jason – Isn’t amazing that Trump is an infallible political genius AND he keeps a hack like Fauci around? Both can not be true.

  289. Phil says:

    The tape of Fauci poo pooing the masks was from two months ago.

    All l’m saying is too many people put their faith in what this guy says we should do in the future. He has a very mixed record.

  290. Bitterlaw says:

    Breaking News – When he as 7 years old, Dr. Fauci ran away from girls because they had cooties.

  291. Bitterlaw says:

    CCC

  292. jason says:

    Jason – Isn’t amazing that Trump is an infallible political genius AND he keeps a hack like Fauci around?”

    Astounding.

    Trump is obviously smarter than the Fauci haters, but admittedly it is a low bar.

  293. Phil says:

    I don’t hate him, but I don’t want him determining my economic future. Whereas, I don’t think Jason does either but there are plenty on the left who actually do.

    That’s my beef.

  294. jason says:

    The tape of Fauci poo pooing the masks was from two months ago.”

    This is more BS.

    The issue was should everyone wear a mask everywhere considering a mask does not protect you from COVID. It can, however, protect a person from getting COVID from you IF you are infected.

    It was finally decided that this benefit might be worth the implementation of a new policy.

    How this somehow reflects negatively on Fauci would be a real mystery.

  295. Pitchaboy says:

    Two months ago it was important for sick people to wear a mask to decrease viral shedding and cut down R 0. Once a respiratory infection sets in big time in a community; then asymptomatic people wearing masks in crowded places is reasonable approach. Your chances of running into the virus decreases somewhat and more so if you also keep a distance . It is all about population density. Even now, there is no need to wear a mask in the boondocks in Idaho.

  296. Tina says:

    Right Phil, it was months ago (March) and he said it in reference to the coronavirus,

    I am not listening to gotteslob or Fauci.

    Phuq them all, including the vaccinator and the venthoarder.

  297. jason says:

    but I don’t want him determining my economic future”

    If that happens, blame Trump, not Fauci.

  298. wvally says:

    Fox News reporting that Brennan held back intel that Russia wanted Hillary to win. Docs to be declassified

  299. Tina says:

    I think trump mentioned this months ago.

    Los Angeles Times
    @latimes
    · May 11
    The economic devastation the pandemic wreaks on the ultra-poor could ultimately kill more people than the virus itself. https://latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-05-11/more-than-a-billion-people-escaped-poverty-in-the-last-20-years-the-coronavirus-could-erase-those-gains

  300. jason says:

    Regarding Fauci – He is a doctor. It is not his job to open the economy. If I was ill, I would go to see Pitch because he is a doctor. I would not ask him about my stock portfolio or what car to buy.”

    Exactly.

    The Fauci haters can’t seem to understand that.

    But that is their problem, not Fauci’s.

  301. Pitchaboy says:

    In high risk situations like in the ER or ICU; I wear a N95 mask. On top of it goes a surgical mask and on top of it a face shield. I wear a disposable gown and double glove my hands.

  302. Tina says:

    The commie held back intel.

    I still don’t know how a commie became CIA Director.

    Way to go Rs.

    He also spied on congress and media.

    But the Rinos don’t care. Orange man bad.

  303. Tina says:

    Done with his show.

    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    15m
    The fact that
    @seanhannity
    perpetually has on Linda Graham, who never does ANYTHING, should tell you about Hannity’s ability to get guests.

  304. Pitchaboy says:

    Different situations call for different approaches. Give the doc a break. I agree he is over cautious but he is looking at it through a medical prism. The politicians have to temper that with economic and political calculations

  305. Tina says:

    Tom Tiffany wins Wi 7.

  306. Hugh says:

    Here is the deal if Hillary was president and fauci was behaving the same way and hurting Hillary politically he’d be gone. And the press would treat him like a moron. That is a fact. He is not in my view helpful as a public figure talking with the press. He is a net liability but politically trump does not have the luxury of being able to fire him.

  307. Bitterlaw says:

    Tina gave it all away months ago when she criticized Fauci because of Hillary. Janz followed the script today.

  308. Phil says:

    If you don’t buy into everything Fauci spouts you’re a Fauci hater.

    Man, I love this place.

  309. wvally says:

    CNN’s @brianstelter Accuses Conservative Media of ‘Obsession’ With Russia Probe

    Oh that’s rich.

  310. Phil says:

    Saw that, wvally

    Priceless.

  311. Bitterlaw says:

    Fauci is a political liability? The things you learn here.

    Trump can’t fire Fauci? Trump fires people like Wes dumps women. When did Trump ever hesitate to fire somebody?

  312. Chicon says:

    Fauci is God-like. I mean, the guy hasn’t screwed up one patient in 20 years!

  313. MichiganGuy says:

    jason says:
    May 12, 2020 at 11:40 am
    Is Elmer an insult?

    I want to know in case someone call me that and I can get points.
    .
    Elmer Gantry- Acclaimed drama about a charlatan who teams up with an evangelist to sell religion to 1920s America, in a provocative indictment of religious corruption.
    .
    What do you think?

  314. Tina says:

    Don’t worry about coronavirus (January)

    There is no reason to wear a mask (3/8)

    Go travel on a cruise (3/8)

  315. VictrC says:

    Fauci

    – He’s not a politician. He’s a doctor who specializes in epidemics and pandemics. He sees things in that vein.

    – He’s valuable to the Trump team because he demonstrates bi-partisanship on Trump’s part by having him, lends credibility to the Trump policies he is laying out (such as the guidelines to opening up)

    – He will always only say things in the vein of public health, not related to how that relates to economic matters

    – To demonstrate how valuable he is to Trump’s credibility he hasn’t fired him, even when he has gone off script

    – Dems and the press will use every statement he makes to paint Trump bad, to keep the country closed, and to hurt at=risk Republicans

    – his presence today was to serve one purpose, hurt Trump. The media and Dems will spins his words that way even though he said, as long as states go by Trump;s own policies, they are fine.

    – Brix should have been there, but Dems would have tried to crush her, the press would have painted her as unknowledgeable

    All can be true

    Lastly, how does WI-7 only being won by 14% rather than 22% in the last election relate to the upcoming election. It was a special with no incumbent, so I would think that this large victory is fine, but…I’d like to hear y’all’s take

  316. jason says:

    The LA lockdown into July didn’t go over well.

    “This comes after a day of conflicting signals from elected officials.

    First, California Governor Gavin Newsom announced that restaurants could reopen for dine-in service, so long as they follow guidelines.

    Newsom also said that malls and strip malls could reopen for pickup service.

    Then, Dr. Barbara Ferrer, the Director of the L.A. County Public Health Department said safer at home restrictions would go on until August.

    Shortly thereafter, Garcetti called in to CNN, telling Jake Tapper, “I think there was a lot of panic suddenly the headlines said we’re all going to stay exactly as we are for three more months when that is not the case.” Garcetti insisted that Ferrer simply meant that the county would not “fully reopen” by August.

    Later in the afternoon, Ferrer issued a press release clarifying her remarks. “While the Safer at Home orders will remain in place over the next few months,” she said, “restrictions will be gradually relaxed.”

    Finally, Garcetti made a second appearance on CNN, telling Anderson Cooper that, despite the seemingly conflicting messages, “It’s important not to overreact…to not freak out.”

  317. VictrC says:

    One last thing about Fauci, he’s a net asset. NOT PERFECt, but a net asset because as long as he’s there Dems can not say Trump or the GOP is ignoring science.

    The numbers will validate the Gov’s individual approaches, like WISC not seeing a bump in cases after in-person voting, no spike in GA numbers, same with FL and TX. As long as that stays the case it will be blue state Dems that look bad.

  318. Bitterlaw says:

    If the only reason for the continued shutdown is to hurt Trump, why is LA extending the lockdown? Are they worried Trump might get 10% of the vote in Los Angeles unless the lockdown is extended?

  319. jason says:

    Tina gave it all away months ago when she criticized Fauci because of Hillary. Janz followed the script today.”

    The truth comes out eventually.

  320. Tina says:

    ?
    @theconservador
    ·
    41m
    ?Big Breaking.

    It will specifically the people in the Obama administration
    that
    @RichardGrenell
    will unmask between Election day 2016 and inauguration 2017.

  321. jason says:

    Dr Fauci wrong on everything”

    Dang, Trump must be really dumb to have a guy like that on his team.

  322. jason says:

    theconservador”

    I hope he is more accurate than Lord Asshat…

  323. jason says:

    Nice analysis on Fauci, Vic.

    Exactly right.

    The Fauci haters should read it, might learn something.

  324. VictrC says:

    WI-7

    Tiffany 57%
    Trump 2016 58%
    Duffy 9 term incumbent 60% in 2018

    In 2012, Duffy only got 52% of the vote

    Just some comparables

  325. Tina says:

    Doesn’t matter what Nuissance wants.

    The counties will,simply refuse and he won’t press it,

    See Musk (Tesla) vs Alamaeda County, which has 2,101 cases and 71 deaths. Population of 1.6 million.

  326. Hugh says:

    He is only a net asset if you believe in a slow opening of the economy with a minimal risk from the virus. If you believe as I do that a quicker opening while to the extent possible in a once free society focus on protecting the most vulnerable is best he is a net liability. Until we we see a spike in death rates year over year did we save net lives for the incredible suffering we are going to incur? How many lives could we save spending prudently the trillions we will spend to come out of a self induced depression? And if fauci has his way it will be a depression. Trump would fire him but it would be political suicide at this point which for once trump sees and is showing a little self restraint. I grant that if you think a major recession/depression is worth the lives saved than fauci is an asset.

  327. Bitterlaw says:

    A recession/depression is not worth saving lives. Unless, of course, it is your life or the life of somebody in your family.

  328. Tina says:

    Here is the Fox News report on the commie suppressing Russian intelligence thst wanted Her Thighness to win the election,

    Pooty Poot viewed the jebots’ Hillary as weak vs trump, who Pooty Poot viewed as unpredictable.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKB9t-_5UlY

  329. Bitterlaw says:

    How things have changed. Trump used to be an infallible political giant. Now he is being held hostage by an incompetent Democrat doctor. It must be hard reconciling those thoughts.

  330. Tina says:

    Fauci is not worth my time.

    Just ignore him.

    He has been wrong, just like Comedy.

  331. jason says:

    If the only reason for the continued shutdown is to hurt Trump, why is LA extending the lockdown?””

    What other possible reason can there be? This is national strategy, it doesn’t matter how dumb it is.

    California is the most populous state in the Union.

    It has 10% of the deaths NY has. Deaths per 1M population is 73 vs. 1397 for NY. It has done 1 million tests.

    There is no reason for a lockdown other than to damage Trump by damaging the economy.

  332. Tina says:

    Just stfu and continue with your therapy sessions with hannity.

    Lindsey Graham
    @LindseyGrahamSC
    ·
    1h
    I would urge Rich Grenell, who has done a terrific job, to release the names of the people who made the unmasking request.

  333. jason says:

    Fauci is not worth my time.”

    LOL

    Is that why you have 1000 posts attacking him?

    Is that why you must spend hours researching every kooky conspiracy site that has some idiotic “nugget” against him from 30 years ago?

  334. Hugh says:

    Bitterlaw really? Your argument is that any precaution is worth it to save someone you know. Society makes decisions about the risk of death all the time. Driving speeds, healthcare laws, etc etc. under that very simple logic let’s lock down schools in flu season. Many more children will die from the flu than this. I could have sworn when I read your post it was from Elizabeth warren. It’s the same tired argument democrats use to shut down republicans.

  335. jason says:

    A recession/depression is not worth saving lives. Unless, of course, it is your life or the life of somebody in your family.”

    The lives to be saved were already saved. The curve was flattened, the number of deaths doesn’t really change, it gets spread out more. That is good, kept the health care system from being overwhelmed.

    Now we are trading some lives for others. Suicides. Depression. Crime. Destroyed businesses, careers and lively hoods.

    The “saving lives” now is an MSM talking point. We are not saving any more lives by the lock down.

  336. jason says:

    And of course, anyone who thinks the Dems want lockdowns forever to “save lives” is an idiot.

  337. Tina says:

    Thao Nguyen
    @helloitsthao
    ·
    2h
    you can’t help but love the 404 error page on the trump campaign’s website
    https://donaldjtrump.com/404

  338. Tina says:

    Donald J. Trump
    @realDonaldTrump
    ·
    5m
    Shifty Schiff exposed!
    Quote Tweet

    Kimberley Strassel
    @KimStrassel
    · 3h
    Newly released documents show Adam Schiff knew all along that there was no proof of Russia-Trump collusion. https://wsj.com/articles/all-the-adam-schiff-transcripts-11589326164

  339. MichiganGuy says:

    #349 Tina, that is funny.

  340. Bitterlaw says:

    Hugh – You must have skipped all of my posts saying to reopen the country. I even said I would be a test subject if they needed a 52 year old diabetic. My point was not to continue the shutdown. It was to point out that sometimes we forget these numbers are people.

  341. lisab says:

    If the only reason for the continued shutdown is to hurt Trump, why is LA extending the lockdown?
    ————————

    LA is 5% of the usa’s gdp

    california is about 14%

  342. wvally says:

    I agree w everything Vic said in 327, especially that Fauci has lent Trump credibility, which I think is borne out in his increasing approval rating.

    But I HATE the approach we’ve taken to this crisis. I don’t believe it’s based in good science. I think we have instilled irrational fear, turned “social distance” into the new norm, and have given up an incredible amount of ground to the left. While we may claw some of it back so much has been lost.

  343. Tina says:

    ? Retweeted

    Political Polls
    @Politics_Polls
    ·
    2m
    #CA25 (71% Reporting)
    Garcia (R) 55.7% (+11.4)
    Smith (D) 44.3%

  344. Scooterboy says:

    Looking really good for Republicans in the CA 25 special election so far.

  345. MichiganGuy says:

    Oregon Governor sets 10 p.m. curfew.
    .

  346. wvally says:

    It was to point out that sometimes we forget these numbers are people.

    ***
    I agree Bitter but what’s f*cked up beyond all measure is that while the lockdown of *everyone* was supposedly to protect the old, we managed to completely screw over nursing home patients despite locking everyone down.

    We should have focused our attention and resources on protecting the vulnerable. Instead we’ve made the entire country vulnerable to all kinds of negative consequences for many years to come, and failed to protect the blue state seniors most at risk.

  347. MichiganGuy says:

    These dem governors are really smart. I didn’t know the coronavirus goes into overdrive after 10p.m.
    .
    https://www.oregonlive.com/dining/2020/05/oregon-restaurant-bar-owners-arent-happy-with-gov-kate-browns-10-pm-curfew.html

  348. Big E says:

    Garcia up 11% with 76% reporting. Looks good so far. 16000 vote lead. Hopefully that is greater than the MOF

  349. Tina says:

    Dave Wasserman
    @Redistrict
    ·
    1m
    If Mike Garcia (R)’s lead over Christy Smith (D) in #CA25 holds, and chances look pretty good it will, he’ll become the only House Republican from a district Hillary Clinton won with more than 50% of the vote.

  350. Tina says:

    Mike Garcia wins

  351. Tina says:

    The Election Center
    @ElectionCenter_
    Projection:
    Republican Mike Garcia is the Projected Winner in the #CA25 Special Election. He will defeat Democrat Christy Smith.

    GOP Gain

  352. Big E says:

    Canary in the coal mine. This could be a harbinger on things to come. Backlash against st authoitaian state policies. A rebellion is brewing.

  353. Big E says:

    Look for Newsome to open up more of state this week. First evidence that people are blaming dem’s not Trump.

  354. wvally says:

    Kinda makes you wonder if “68% of Americans” really want these lockdowns to continue.

  355. Scooterboy says:

    Andrew Clark- “Did…did Joe Biden just suggest that Democrats are the only one suffering from the coronavirus?”

    BIDEN: “The people that are getting hurt are Democrats. Hard-working people.”

  356. MichiganGuy says:

    Tina, where are you getting your information. This guy is saying the democratic candidate is going to win.

    https://twitter.com/ElectionCenter_/status/1260412006424698880?s=19

  357. MichiganGuy says:

    Unless that is a typo and meant to say Republican pickup?

  358. Scooterboy says:

    Garcia is winning Independents by 22%. But the question is, can he hold the seat in November?

  359. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Lets not forget that only about 45% of the 25th Congressional district is Anglo. Hispanics make up 35%; and Asians about 9%; African-American 9%. To be competitive in California; this is the type of district that Republicans need to win.

  360. Marv says:

    #370 MichGuy,

    Tina is correct. Garcia wins and it is a GOP pickup. The seat was in Dem hands before Katie Hill (D) resigned.

  361. Scooterboy says:

    Has anyone else called the race yet?

  362. Scooterboy says:

    M. Joseph Sheppard

    Three from 3 tonight ? California state Senate District 28 special election results. 2018 GOP 51% Dem 49% Two Hispanics here and a GOP win. Garcia & Melendez as well

    GOP
    Melendez, Melissa
    95,378
    55.9%

    Dem
    Romero, Elizabeth
    75,248
    44.1%

  363. Hugh says:

    Garcia appears to be ready to win in a landslide.

  364. MichiganGuy says:

    Marv, I didn’t say she wasn’t correct. I was asking her where she got her info. I went to @electioncenter_ Twitter account and I didn’t find the information Tina is giving. But now he is saying GOP candidate won but still calls it a democratic pickup.

  365. Big E says:

    If Biden does poorly in the southeast, midwest and atlantic states it will suppress vote in California and Nevada. It will help recapture some house seats.

  366. Big E says:

    People were saying if Garcia won it would only be by 1 or 2 points. Big win

  367. Marv says:

    MichGuy,

    Looks like the @electioncenter folks need a mug of coffee or something to get them to pay closer attention to what they post.

  368. Scooterboy says:

    M. Joseph Sheppard- “Clearly, Christy Smith has to hope for a massive amount of ballots in the mail, given her current disadvantage of roughly 16,000 votes. It’s not completely without precedent, but only a cheerleader would think it more likely than not”

  369. Tina says:

    Mg, I don’t see how the Drat wins Ca 25.

    Media
    Likes
    Thao Nguyen’s Tweets

    Thao Nguyen
    @helloitsthao
    ·
    14m
    garcia’s lead in los angeles is somehow still increasing

    he’s up by 11 points there now

  370. MichiganGuy says:

    Marv,that might explain why he only has 301 followers. LOL I haven’t heard any credible outlet call the race yet. Los Angeles county is still out so, I wouldn’t count my chickens before they hatch.

  371. Tina says:

    Matt Whitlock
    @mattdizwhitlock
    ·
    6m
    Today was a good reminder why they’ve kept Biden in hiding.

    His media appearances did far more for Republicans than Democrats.

    ? Flubbed major Flynn Qs
    ? Announced new move to the left with AOC and Bernie
    ? Technical/staffer issues
    ? Suggests COVID only hurting Dems

  372. Tina says:

    An r can win tonite and lose it in the days ahead.

  373. wvally says:

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/two-special-elections-on-tuesday-could-hint-at-another-blue-wave-in-2020/

    MAY 11, 2020, AT 1:29 PM
    Two Special Elections On Tuesday Could Hint At Another Blue Wave In 2020
    By Geoffrey Skelley and Nathaniel Rakich

    Filed under Special Elections

    ****
    So, do R landslides portend a red wave?

  374. MichiganGuy says:

    Marv, thanks for the update. What counties are left? The mail in ballots are still out too. Looks like Garcia will win but, I don’t trust the Democrats especially in California so, I will wait for the official results before I celebrate.

  375. Marv says:

    GOP is 3 for 3 so far tonight. WI CD7, CA CD25, and CA State Senate District 28.

  376. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    389. “So, do R landslides portend a red wave?”

    For some reason, fivethirtyeight is not providing much coverage of the two special elections tonight.

  377. Phil says:

    Hold on fellows. Ballots by mail are allowed to come in for three more days and final results won’t be known for several wks.

    You DO remember the four Republicans that all led their Southern Californian congressional races in 2018. All were leading on election night and for several days after – until the mail in ballots chipped away and did them in.

    All lost.

    Maybe it’s different this time with the virus limiting ballot harvesting somewhat but I think you are getting ahead of yourselves. Take a step back. Be hopeful but keep the above in mind.

  378. Phil says:

    Am I right to be cautious, San Diego? You were there at ground zero in 2018.

  379. Marv says:

    MichGuy,

    Only LA and Ventura Counties are involved. According to the CA SOS website linked above, both counties have 100% of their precincts reporting at least partial results. GOP won the mail in ballots and appear to have edged out the DEMs today in booth voting.

  380. jason says:

    They are not happy over at Kos…

    “but..they MAILED PEOPLE BALLOTS. how f’ing hard is it to fill out a form & mail it? you don’t even have to put a stamp on it! this, right here, is why we can’t have nice things. or even competently run things…”

  381. jason says:

    Is the lead above the MOF?

  382. Marv says:

    Phil,

    The CA special election was primarily a by mail election.
    I don’t think ballot harvesting works in that kind of election.
    The ones we lost in 2018 were close on election night and stolen over the next several days.

    This time our team has a much bigger lead at the half.

  383. jason says:

    16k lead, might be hard to make up.

    Phil, they accept ballots for 3 days, but they HAd TO BE POSTMARKED BY TODAY.

  384. wvally says:

    WATCH: PA Secretary of Heath admits own mother left senior facility while coronavirus swept nursing homes. Gov Wolf nowhere to be found.

    https://twitter.com/jackposobiec/status/1260426635058319362?s=21

    God, this lady (!) is a piece of work. 2/3 of PA deaths have been in nursing homes.

    My Philly A-holes are telling me Fauci done good. Well then tell me that your fellow Pennsylvanians realize how badly Wolf & Levine screwed this up.

  385. wvally says:

    https://twitter.com/doclancep/status/1260416847167414272?s=21

    @Parscale @GOPChairwoman @DonaldJTrumpJr @EricTrump
    Let the Garcia race settle it, the message is:
    WORKING-CLASS, MULTI-RACIAL COALITION.

    Suburbs are important, but messaging to “Carlos” (who doesn’t want illegal immigration either, BTW) is more important than “Karen”.

  386. Phil says:

    Granted, Garcia is sitting much better tonight numbers wise than the Republican candidates were on election night 2018 in their races.

    I’d be really surprised if he didn’t hang on. Let me put it this way, with numbers like Garcia has tonight if Democrats win this one they can steal anything.

  387. Marv says:

    Phil,

    You might be right about not celebrating too soon.

    2017 Texas A & M @ UCLA

  388. Phil says:

    Marv,

    Good one. That was a body blow. Didn’t realize it at the time but it was the best thing that could have happened – it was the final straw and resulted in A&M getting rid of Kevin Sumlin.

  389. Marv says:

    Phil,

    I think the Aggies can win the SEC West within a year or two.

    That will make Rick Perry very happy.

  390. Phil says:

    And me too. Lol

  391. Marv says:

    Good night folks. Be back tomorrow.

  392. jason says:

    It is tomorrow here.

  393. PresidentPaul! says:

    Indians make a human venus fly trap to use on those violating social distancing guidelines.

    https://twitter.com/DgpChdPolice/status/1254016219834916866?s=20

  394. PresidentPaul! says:

    I really dislike the “let’s intubate all the nursing home patients” attitude some have here.

    After 90 year grandma with azheimers who doesn’t even know her own name gets all 24 of her ribs broken during the CPR so she can get vented up even though she has 00.01 percent chance of survival and the tax payer will be on the hook for a $50,000 ICU stay before the family finally decides to extubate her when she dies a week later. Mission accomplished!

    But wait there’s more!. During the code since there was such a rush 20 people ran in the room without any PPE to do CPR and they spread coronavirus all over each other and the doors were left open so they then ran out into the hallway and spread it all over the nursing stations too in this extraordinaire extravaganza.

  395. PresidentPaul! says:

    One more cool third thing in this magnificent ordeal. Grandma sh1t all over everyone during the CPR compressions before they were able to bring her back and save a life.

    And we know what covid-19 causes right? Yes it causes severe diarrhea meaning there is now poop all over the room, and poop that probably aids in the spread of covid-19.

  396. PresidentPaul! says:

    S&P loves smashing into that 61.8% fib retracement at 2930. Doesn’t seem to want to go above it.

  397. PresidentPaul! says:

    “Paul Schatz
    @Paul_Schatz
    ·
    14h
    Did Powell say $750 billion?
    He meant $750 trillion”

  398. PresidentPaul! says:

    Jeb BNush promoter Nicki Haley used unsecured emails for classified information.

    lock her up! lock her up! lock her up! lock her up!

    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/2019/11/nikki-haley-used-unsecured-emails-for-classified-info.html?__twitter_impression=true

  399. Wes says:

    Yesterday the Republicans had their first good election night since Trump took office. The Dems saw their House majority reduced from 234-200-1 to 233-201-1. (Although California is effectively a banana republic, I doubt Garcia will fall behind.)

    Psychologically this is a big boost to the House GOP as Garcia flipped a Hillary district by a comfortable margin. Of course standard caveats about special elections apply; nonetheless that Garcia won a high-profile contest on hostile ground is impressive. This will be a likely fundraising boost for the NRCC and RNC.

    The GOP also held a CA legislative district and a WI House seat by comfortable margins. As a result, I’m less pessimistic about GOP chances in November than before. Trump certainly isn’t out of danger yet; however, these elections give me reason to be more optimistic than I have been for years.

  400. Phil says:

    Worried about Tillis. Trailing in polls and if we lose that seat we lose the senate.

  401. DW says:

    I don’t see how Garcia can hold on to a mere 16,000 vote lead. We have seen this movie before. It always ends the same way. They keep finding ballots and harvesting ballots until they get what they need and then they shut it down because they have their winner.

    I admit it stretches their skills a bit, but this is Kalifornia and we will sit here over the next three days and watch the movie again:

    Day 1: lead shrinks to 13,000
    Day 2: lead shrinks to 9,000
    Day 3: Lead shrinks to 6,000

    Then there is some unknown accounting error that drops it to 2,500

    Day 4: I know there isn’t supposed to be a day 4, but they do it anyway, even though the ballots are not postmarked in time, they will argue these people have a right to vote, so they take in another 4000 ballots and the lead shrinks to 600 votes.

    Recount triggered.

    Two weeks of re-counting ensue, and lo and behold they find more ballots and Garcia loses the election by 237 votes.

  402. Phil says:

    DW, doubt it happens to that extent in this case. Garcia should hang on but I get your drift. The fact that we’re even having to talk about this kind of scenario tells us how rigged California is.

  403. dblaikie says:

    Wes, please take this with the humor that is intended. But your post can only bring to my mind the Hank Williams (Luke the drifter) song:

    “Just like a blind man I wandered along
    Worries and fears I claimed for my own
    Then like the blind man that God gave back his sight Praise the Lord I saw the light

    I saw the light, I saw the light
    No more darkness, no more night
    Now I’m so happy no sorrow in sight
    Praise the Lord I saw the light”

  404. dblaikie says:

    DW, if Garcia was ahead by only 5000 votes I would be pessimistic. And who knows the lengths of voter fraud that the dems will try? But even with that, I am feeling good about CA 25.

  405. DW says:

    What’s to stop them and hold them accountable? The media? The communist judges in CA?

    Don’t forget that Dems donated millions toward the efforts of overturning margins of 10k – 50k in MI, WI and PA in 2016.

    16k in Kalifornia is nothing.

  406. DW says:

    NYT site just updated…

    Garcia 80,337
    Smith 62,998

  407. DW says:

    So a 17,000+ vote lead. Maybe their strategy this time is to get everyone to stop following the results to make it easier to reverse it. Still only 76% reported in…

  408. MichiganGuy says:

    #420 Don’t think wesley will ever see the light. Maybe, some fire and brimstone. LOL

  409. MichiganGuy says:

    Well, DW I’m guessing they won’t cheat this time. The dems want vote by mail in November. They know if they cheat now that will not happen. Besides, they can get the seat back in December with an all mail in election.

  410. MichiganGuy says:

    November ^

  411. dblaikie says:

    Even though I continue to be leery of dem voter fraud unless the only votes left are from Lancaster and Palmdale, Garcia will pull this out.

  412. dblaikie says:

    I don’t know about the AP but Trump has called the election for Garcia in a tweet: “Big Congressional win in California for Mike Garcia, taking back a seat from the Democrats. This is the first time in many years that a California Dem seat has flipped back to a Republican. Also, Tom Tiffany beat his Democrat rival BIG in Wisconsin. Two great Congressional WINS!”

  413. dblaikie says:

    Uncle Joe is officially bringing in OAC to be an official advisor on Green New Deal policies. So much for moving toward the middle.

  414. Wes says:

    DB, I’ve repeatedly said if I saw any actual evidence Republicans could win, I’d acknowledge it. The anecdotes and refusal to acknowledge the implications of polling and election results weren’t what I was looking for.

    Here, we FINALLY have evidence Republicans MAY have turned the corner. I’m willing to acknowledge electoral reality when it’s in front of me.

    I’m still not subscribing to the rosy analysis of Trump as prohibitive front runner or saying he’s likely to win at all.

    Garcia’s victory is a sign of the potential beginning of a reversal of the electoral malaise Republicans have been in since Trump took office. It’s too soon to say the trend will continue, but I’m definitely pleased with the start.

  415. Phil says:

    Wes, you have been VERY quiet about Tillis’ prospects.

    Not a good sign.

  416. Wes says:

    I don’t usually say this, Phil, but I don’t believe the polls in that race. Tillis has done nothing to infuriate voters, and Cunningham is basically invisible.

    I believe the Civitas poll showing a fairly modest Tillis lead. That’s the feel of the race I get.

    On the other hand, I think Dan Forest has virtually no chance of winning a promotion against Roy Cooper.

  417. Phil says:

    Wes, thanks. I have been trying to draw you out on this one. Highly respect your opinion about all things political in your home state.

  418. jason says:

    I really dislike the “let’s intubate all the nursing home patients” attitude some have here.”

    Paulbots are delusional.

    Unless Bunu can come up with exactly which of us have been advocating for that here.

  419. Tina says:

    eeted

    Political Polls
    @PpollingNumbers
    ·
    6m
    #CA25 Special Election (100% Reporting)

    Mike Garcia (R) 56.05% ??
    Christy Smith (D) 43.95%

    @DecisionDeskHQ

  420. jason says:

    Well, another day has dawned.

    Some predictions just to get things rolling.

    1) Tina, who won’t waste time on Fauci, will discover that as a toddler, he had more poopy diapers than the average toddler. She will also add a few more RINOS to her blacklist, which now contains almost 68,000 names.

    2) NYC will declare that he is against tariffs, unless Trump implements them, in which case they are transformed into the greatest idea since 1930.
    He will also declare he is for free trade, and then list 857 conditions under which it would actually be ok to have free trade.

    3) Phil will let everyone know he is auditioning for A-hole member by making a series of A-hole sounding statements during the day.

    4) Tgca will come up with a new field in which he is an expert in and declare that the lesser beings here cannot opine on any subject within the scope of said field until they attain his same level of greatness.

  421. wvally says:

    5) jason will continue his reign as HHR’s most prolific A-hole

  422. janz says:

    Tina, now the Dems will pull out their ballot harvesting and granny farming tactics to overturn Garcia’s numbers. They have until this Friday to “fix” the election results.

  423. Phil says:

    Yes, and Jason is sponsoring my entry into the club. A powerful ally. It’s looking good.

  424. MichiganGuy says:

    #436 @decisiondeskhq has not called that race yet.
    .
    https://twitter.com/DecisionDeskHQ/status/1260574886973583360?s=19

  425. Country Dick Montana says:

    If I were the GOP I would be running Spanish language ads proclaiming Garcia the winner, then insinuating that the election may be stolen.

  426. Tina says:

    So, the gubment docs were wrong about Fl and Ga.

    Julie Kelly
    @julie_kelly2
    ·
    45m
    And another Fauci/Birx/Team Lockdown warning goes poof. “Florida’s new cases have actually declined by 14% compared to the previous week, and Georgia’s fell by 12%.”

  427. Tina says:

    Yup, Janz, they do have until Friday to “harvest.”

  428. jason says:

    I wouldn’t use those numbers as definitive. It is possible that cases in FL and GA will eventually rise as the result of the reopening, so we don’t want to get boxed into the narrative that well now we have to lock down again.

    The point is that if we can reopen AND the cases are manageable then that is the right path to take.

  429. jason says:

    Let’s see how we do today vs last week

    May 6
    Deaths 2528
    Cases 25459

  430. jason says:

    And another Fauci/Birx/Team Lockdown warning goes poof.”

    What about Trump?

    Didn’t he slam Kemp for reopening too early too?

    I am sure it was an oversight so I will take care of it

    ANOTHER TRUMP LOCKDOWN WARNING GOES POOF.

  431. MichiganGuy says:

    CIA Report Says China Threatened WHO Against Declaring Coronavirus A Global Pandemic
    .
    https://www.ibtimes.com/cia-report-says-china-threatened-who-against-declaring-coronavirus-global-pandemic-2975334
    .
    What? No way! I can’t believe China would do anything like that.

  432. jason says:

    “We don’t comment on specific discussions with member states but we can say that at all times during the pandemic WHO has acted in accordance with its mandate as an evidence-based technical organization focusing on protecting all people, everywhere. WHO bases its recommendations on science, public health best practices, evidence, data, and the advice of independent experts.”

    I understand now.

    WHO is focused in protecting all people everywhere.

    China has more people, and their government is by the people.

    Ergo……

  433. janz says:

    Tina, do you get the feeling there are some people kind of hoping Fl and GA will spike, proving the experts were right.

    Also, bringing Trump into the fray, for rebuking Kemp’s early opening, is pathetic. Trump was irritated with Kemp for simply not following the administration’s guidelines. There were no predictions of doom and gloom from him accompanying his disagreement with Kemp’s decision. In fact, the president has hung in there with his support of federalism, rather than pursuing central government mandates over states rights.

  434. janz says:

    Ah, too much Fauci-love can lead to tunnel vision.

  435. wvally says:

    If you look at page 27 of this CNN poll (5/7-5/10), you see that registered voters in Battleground states favor Trump to Biden 52 to 45.

    http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/05/13/rel5c.-.2020.pdf

    Article on CNN says “tilt” but doesn’t state battleground percentages. National result was 51-46 for Biden

    CNN Poll: Biden tops Trump nationwide, but battlegrounds tilt Trump

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/politics/cnn-poll-2020/index.html

  436. Robbie says:

    CA25 proves a simple point. Never bet against a pilot.

  437. MichiganGuy says:

    US federal agencies warn that Chinese hackers are targeting COVID-19 research on vaccines and treatments
    .
    https://www.businessinsider.com/us-warns-that-chinese-hackers-are-threatening-covid-19-response-2020-5
    .
    Ugh,I’m so sick and tired of all these lies about sweet innocent China.

  438. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    May 13, 2020 at 10:58 am
    And another Fauci/Birx/Team Lockdown warning goes poof.”
    What about Trump?
    Didn’t he slam Kemp for reopening too early too?

    – Yes, but who do you think put it in his ear that Kemp was rushing?

  439. Chicon says:

    452 – A-holes by definition have tunnel vision.

  440. Chicon says:

    455 – Bash China all you want, just be sure Jason’s Nike shoes don’t cost 10 cents more than today.

  441. Robbie says:

    BBC News (World)
    @BBCWorld
    Primary schools reopened in France on Monday, and striking pictures of children practising social distancing are now being shared on social media

    – Guess they didn’t consult with President Fauci.

  442. MichiganGuy says:

    Chicon, don’t want to upset the little shepherd. LOL

  443. Chicon says:

    Happy to be on the same side as Robbie for this one.

  444. janz says:

    #456. Good point, Robbie.

  445. Chicon says:

    456 – I think it was Seth Rich…..

  446. janz says:

    #457. Another good point, or maybe it should be called a good observation.

  447. Phil says:

    CNN Poll – pretty good for Trump

    Wait you say. He is trailingy nationally 51-46. Well, peak under the hood. This required a D+8 Party ID. It was D+3 in 2016.

    Trump holding 95% of Republicans (in spite of the efforts of “Republicans” like Kristol, Conway, and all the other Trump haters. They are loud but have zero pull. Pisses them off and just makes them louder.

    Trump up 4 pts with indies. Same margin he had with that group in 2016.

    Up 6 pts in the battleground states.

    Look, because of California and NY no Republican will ever lead a national poll ever again. Bush in 2004 was the last one to ever do so. I couldn’t care less that Biden, like Hillary piles up a 4.5 million vote lead in nutty California or another 3 million vote lead in NY. Means not a damned thing.

    Happy with this poll.

  448. wvally says:

    Comment from Thai Nguyen

    i’m seeing a poll from cnn / ssrs circulating that shows trump up by 7 in battlegrounds but losing to biden by 5 nationally

    something has to be wrong with their battleground sample bc that doesn’t make sense

    throw it in the trash (even if it looks good for trump)

    https://twitter.com/helloitsthao/status/1260600485767192581?s=21

  449. Robbie says:

    Chicon says:
    May 13, 2020 at 11:57 am
    Happy to be on the same side as Robbie for this one.

    – I have no doubt Fauci is a fine man who is giving the best medical advice he knows. However, he personifies the tyranny of the unelected bureaucrat. He can claim he’s not offering economic advice, but the medical advice he’s offered and continues to offer has played a massive role in our economy. It was one thing to listen to him in March, but the facts today don’t match what we feared then. Yet, he continues to offer a strategy that differs little from what he proposed then.

  450. Tina says:

    This is funny

    Larry Schweikart
    @LarrySchweikart
    ·
    2h
    Street Artists Hijack Barack H. Obama Highway Sign with Banner Highlighting #ObamaGate Scandal (VIDEO) https://thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/street-artists-hijack-barack-h-obama-highway-sign-banner-highlighting-obamagate-scandal-video/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=PostTopSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons… via
    @gatewaypundit

  451. Scooterboy says:

    Not good news today for Dems. First the results from California last night, and the CNN Battleground poll today. I know it’s already been posted, but…..
    CNN Key Battleground State* Poll:

    Trump 52%
    Biden 45%

    (*AZ, CO, FL, GA, ME, MI, MN, NV, NH, NM, NC, OH, PA, VA, WI):

  452. Chicon says:

    467 – couldn’t agree more.

  453. NYCmike says:

    “5) jason will continue his reign as HHR’s most prolific A-hole”

    -wvally,

    We were looking for predictions, not certainties.

  454. DW says:

    469 – the one that captures my attention there is Minnesota. Cannot seem to get any pollster to just give us a likely voter sample of Minnesota.

  455. hugh says:

    Ventura County will be releasing today’s in-person and mail-ballot votes tomorrow at 4 PM PST. And as long as they were postmarked today, mail ballots are accepted up until Friday.

  456. janz says:

    Robbie you are making so much sense these days. – common sense stuff!

  457. janz says:

    #471. Good one, NYC!

  458. janz says:

    Sonoma county is now changing it’s postings for beaches. They will be closed 11am to 5pm, and only open in the morning and evenings for people to take walks. I guess the thinking is they don’t want too much of that virus-killing UV lighting to get on beach strollers. Go figure….

  459. DW says:

    Of course the entire sample of that CNN poll is 1001 registered voters. So how many of the voters were from those 15 states combined? 300? Out of those, how many, from say, Wisconsin? 30? Not exactly a strong sample size.

  460. jason says:

    Ma, you were smart trying all those different baits, some good nibbles.

  461. jason says:

    Also, bringing Trump into the fray, for rebuking Kemp’s early opening, is pathetic.”

    We reeled in a janzfish, Ma.

  462. jason says:

    Yes, but who do you think put it in his ear that Kemp was rushing?”

    I put the Trump thing in as bait to see who would bite. It reeled in janz and got a nibble from Robbie. I commend Kemp for reopening and as I posted before, I think Trump privately supported him.

    I actually don’t even think it was Fauci that told Trump to criticize Kemp, as I posted before I think it was his own political instincts.

    There was little downside in admonishing Kemp, but a lot of upside if it went wrong. Since Kemp was going against Trump’s own guidelines, he couldn’t openly support him.

  463. jason says:

    -What happened to Stern?”

    I guess he is so rich now he no longer cares what he pays in taxes.

  464. jason says:

    Smart to declare victory. If the Dems try to steal the election, it is a harder sell.

  465. NYCmike says:

    In regard to legislation, I would hope that the Senate ignores any huge bill from the House, and insists on legislation which takes on 1 item at a time. Each and every line item needs to be thrashed out in the public forum. I believe that Republican ideas about what is needed will be more popular than Democratic ideas, and also less harmful long-term.

  466. Victrc says:

    NYC – it will be done piecemeal, one bill at a time. Dems are already aware of that outcome but needed to put that bill out there for their base. They know there is a lot they won’t get.

    They tabled the $2000 a month payment to all Americans regardless of immigration status because they would have gotten skewered in the media and they would have lost the rest of what they wanted.

    Expect the payments to Americans, (this time $1200 a person including up to 3 kids) to be first on the list of things to pass.

  467. Robbie says:

    I’m not a Rush fan, but my Dad told me a point he made today on his show and I think it’s correct.

    Fauci wants to see schools closed in the Fall because he realizes the economy can’t fully reopen without them. Without schools and daycare, parents may have to stay at home rather than work.

    Effectively, Fauci’s desire to see schools closed keeps his shutdown going.

  468. NYCmike says:

    Fauci mentioned a 2nd wave having a disastrous affect on the economy…….I thought he didn’t worry about economic issues……

  469. jason says:

    “CNN’s ‘Expert’ Coronavirus Panel Is a Must See and Will Have You Laughing Out Loud”

    Yep, Greta is one of the 3 “experts” on the CNN townhall.

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  470. Phil says:

    A second wave disastrous affect on the economy?

    Damn, Doctor Fauci. If you haven’t noticed the economy is already a disaster. Twenty five million have lost their jobs with a good chunk of those never coming back because we closed it all down.

    Better not open up. A second wave will be a disaster. Hey, Fauci. We’re already there and will never get out of it until we open up. The guy needs to get out of his bubble.

    Good God.

    This guy needs to get out of his bubble.

  471. jason says:

    Fauci has not said schools cannot reopen.

    What he said was that a vaccine won’t be available by then, so that is out of equation. He also said testing and contact tracing will be important for reopening schools.

    “Parents seeking comfort and reassurance that it will be safe to send their children back to school and college in the fall will have to wait, the country’s top medical experts said – though that doesn’t mean some schools and colleges shouldn’t reopen, especially in places where community spread of the coronavirus is limited.”

    I think Fauci is ok with reopening schools where the pandemic is under control, I have not seen anything that contradicts that.

    I think the theory that he will purposefully advise against schools reopening because “it will extend the lock down” is fake news.

  472. Chicon says:

    491 – So, how often do you and your idol demand the Utes be tested? Once? Once per semester? Monthly? Weekly? Maybe daily?

  473. jason says:

    So, how often do you and your idol demand the Utes be tested? Once? Once per semester? Monthly? Weekly? Maybe daily?”

    I imagine it would depend on the numbers.

    Most important would be that in the event of positive cases, they could move quickly to contain and isolate it.

    In any event, there are not many Utes around. About 7000 total in 3 reservations.

  474. jason says:

    Russia still at 11k cases a day, will move into second place in cases by the weekend.

    At less than half the US population, per capita they are running about the same number of cases as the US now.

  475. Chicon says:

    If you test monthly, the Red Death will be running wild between tests. Can’t have that. Similar story with weekly. Fauci and the Doomers will demand daily tests for every kid in America.

  476. Tgca says:

    In between meetings so just getting caught up on the news the last 2 days.

    Did Fauci say anything stoopid today?

    I heard the MSM favorite useful idiot sank the market a bit after he was suckered in to answering questions by leftie senators. But maybe that’s fake news I’m reading on more conservative the sites. If I want real facts I should go to MSNBC or CNN or Jadon.

  477. NYCmike says:

    Heavy

  478. Tina says:

    US Supreme Court Rules with President Trump – Reinstates Law Making It a Felony to Encourage or Help People Come or Stay in US Illegally

  479. Tgca says:

    This is soooooo sad. *sniffles*

    Anderson Cooper feeling so wonewee raising his newborn son all by his wonesum self so he’s reaching out to his cheating ex to help raise his son since he has no other family left. He doesn’t want to be the like his mom, who he says was not the most parental mom. Nice way to honor your dead mom shortly after Mother’s Day.

    I think Anderson should just spend the time counting his $100M+ fortune to pass the wonewee hours.

    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2020/05/13/anderson-cooper-asked-ex-boyfriend-to-help-raise-newborn-son-i-dont-really-have-a-family/

  480. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Biden was an unmasker of Flynn.

    Yesterday, he said he knew nothing about it.

    This is a lie and a criminal felony act.

  481. Tina says:

    Biden committed a felony by unmasking Flynn.

    Jebots need to go code red.

  482. Tina says:

    BREAKING.

    Undercover Huber
    @JohnWHuber
    ·
    5m
    Obama’s chief of staff, James Comey, Joe Biden, Clapper, Brennan and more identified as principals requesting
    @GenFlynn
    “unmasking” Police cars revolving light

  483. jason says:

    Fauci and the Doomers”

    Kewl. Could be the name of new rock group.

  484. jason says:

    Did Fauci say anything stoopid today?”

    He said you could have the floor as that is your expertise.

  485. Tgca says:

    492

    Uh oh! My friend Wes will not approve.

    The Sewer State of NJ getting something right.

    Yes!

    Go Sewer State! Go!

  486. DW says:

    Tina, Biden will be cleared…you cannot hold someone criminally liable when that person has dementia.

  487. jason says:

    Actually, colleges would be the best places to build “herd immunity”. You have a universe of people that are low risk for serious complications.

    You could leave a large dorm empty, and since most cases will be mild you can quarantine all positives there for 2 weeks. Eventually you would have a large population of immune students.

    Obviously, students with pre-existing conditions would be handled differently.

    And faculty members are older and more at risk. You would have to limit their close interaction with students, which should not be impossible.

  488. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    For those concerned about ballot harvesting in the California 25th congressional race, it is important to remember that because of the lockdown party operatives were not able to go door-to-door to collect ballots.

    Also, California law changed so that absentee and mail-in ballots come with a postage prepaid envelope. So voters can easily mail them. The Republicans did an excellent job on contacting their voters by internet, social media and mailers educating and encouraging them to return their ballots by mail.

    In 2018 there was a massive door-to-door campaign by Democrats; who provided absentee ballot application forms for people to use; and later returned to collect the ballots. A friend of mine who was active in collecting ballots told me she was surprised how many people did not mail their ballots in because they had no postage stamps.

  489. jason says:

    Tgca, NJ has almost 10k deaths.

    It remains to be seen how many are from nursing homes that could be avoided.

  490. Tina says:

    #SubpoenaObama

  491. jason says:

    Tina, Biden will be cleared…you cannot hold someone criminally liable when that person has dementia”

    Biden just said unmasking in the midst of a pandemic is a capital offense.

  492. Tina says:

    Jeff Carlson
    @themarketswork
    ·
    19m
    Biden unmasked Flynn on the day of the Ignatius WAPO article

    McDonough did so on day of Oval Office meeting

    A very large number of unmaskings on Dec 15, 2016. Why is this significant?

    Clapper signed off on Section 2.3 on this same day.

  493. Tgca says:

    437

    I see my expertise and credentials are making Llama Boy Jadon feel a bit insecure and prone to just plain stoopid comments again. Clearly, he has no idea what skill sets financial professionals have and use in their work, and never heard of financial or mathematical modeling and how they are used in economic decisions and business practices daily. I guess all those folks working in economics, operations research, and actuarial sciences just push buttons on a computer and bam!…results spit out magically. I guess I should tell our CEO to get rid of all our data scientists, economists, and FP&A teams because they’re not needed.

    Fun fact for Jadon: economists with advanced degrees often have some level of training in advanced mathematics and programming because many economic models use math beyond his wee lil llama brain’s comprehension.

    Oh the simple life of a llama lover.

  494. jason says:

    Ma, we got a Tgca fish.

    I know, they think they are a lot bigger than they are, but a catch is a catch.

  495. jason says:

    Philly reopening?

    “In Philadelphia, the criminal gangs have clearly had enough of this business as well and are heading back out to the streets to ply their trade. Shootings and murders are once again on the rise, with five people being shot and another stabbed just over Mother’s Day weekend.”

  496. Tina says:

    Joe Biden could have replaced the sign with “ima, not a crook.”

  497. Tina says:

    “I know nothing about those moves to investigate Michael Flynn,” Biden said in an interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America” on Tuesday.

    https://nypost.com/2020/05/12/joe-biden-denies-he-was-involved-in-michael-flynn-probe/

  498. wvally says:

    Florida Governor opens state to ANY pro sports team

    “What I would tell commissioners of leagues is, if you have a team in an area where they just won’t let them operate, we’ll find a place for you here in the state of Florida.”

  499. Tina says:

    I am not a crook

    -China Biden

  500. Tgca says:

    This is exactly what I’ve been thinking in my very very BIG brain. Obama and his sycophants are getting nervous about all the dirt that is coming out on Obama that will tarnish his so-called squeaky clean image.

    I noticed some in the media are trying to head this off with folks like Don Lemon, the fudge packing left winged Obama-lusting CNN host making silly statements like Obama is renting space in Trump’s head or saying Michelle is prettier and more accomplished than Melania.

    This tells me they are worried that folks will now see documents showing Obama and team not only lied and misled but tried to cripple an incoming president using gubbermint agencies.

    Obama will lose a public fight with Trump so the more he and his backers whine, the more attention the issue gets. This is not a good position for Obama to be in with constant trickling of wrongdoings being released.

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/05/12/bennett_former_president_obama_rattled_big_time_as_declassified_documents_start_to_come_out.html

  501. Tgca says:

    512

    Duh! That was sarcasm! I know it makes my friend Wes’ day when he can skewer the Sewer State of NJ…and actually I agree with him mostly on this but it does hurt Bitter’s feelings.

    Growing up in Essex and Hudson counties in da ghetto communities, I did not have the pwivawiggis that my friend Bitter had in snobby white Bergen County.

  502. Tina says:

    D Matthew Stewart
    @dmatthewstewart
    Even Joe Biden disagrees with what Joe Biden did to
    @GenFlynn

    #BidenKnew & he should suspend his campaign for president.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/dmatthewstewart/status/1260648769076383745

  503. wvally says:

    https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2020/05/12/fox-news-john-brennan-russia-hillary-clinton/

    House Intelligence Committee staff told me that after an exhaustive investigation reviewing intelligence and interviewing intelligence officers, they found that Brennan suppressed high-quality intelligence suggesting that Putin actually wanted the more predictable and malleable Clinton to win the 2016 election.

    Instead, the Brennan team included low-quality intelligence that failed to meet intelligence community standards to support the political claim that Russian officials wanted Trump to win, House Intelligence Committee staff revealed. They said that CIA analysts also objected to including that flawed, substandard information in the assessment.

  504. wvally says:

    The guy who unmasked Flynn the day of the Jan 5, 2017 briefing with Obama, Rice, Clapper, Biden when Obama told Yates and Comey about Flynn-Kislyak call?

    Obama’s COS Denis McDonough:

    https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1260639442236252161?s=21

  505. jason says:

    IL couldn’t match the 4k cases yesterday, came in with 1677. Pritzker said in presser “I can’t shoulder all the work, I did what I could yesterday”.

    With all the heavy hitters in, might be hard to get to 20k cases today.

  506. jason says:

    Pelosi’s bill has

    “Prohibiting identification requirement as condition to obtain ballot”

  507. lisab says:

    the pandemocratic party is panicking over biden trending on twitter … in a negative way …

    FROM THE LEFT!!!

  508. Phil says:

    Naw, they we reach 2000 cases easily. Almost all of California to come in. That’s another 1200 cases for sure and they’ll get 900 out of LA alone. Connecticut is always good for a thousand. Then there’s the DeBlazio 6:00 dump.

    The Illinois dick did come in big on deaths today. Got to give him that. Oh, and speaking of California, looking at their county by county numbers they brought in 55 dead from a category labeled “unassigned”. Pennsylvania does the same thing. What, is that a new county or something or just another phantom category to bring in some numbers from nowhere/

    Honorable mention to Wolf BTW. He came in with a big death number from Philly and the Philly suburbs. Congrats. At this rate southeast Pa can remain shut down forever. Hope MD enjoys living in a perpetual economic black hole. I’m sure his new hero Governor will be happy to keep him there.

  509. wvally says:

    Modeling paper, so take it with a grain of salt. Still, the Lancet is one of the top medical journals in the world.

    Between 250,000 (low model) and 1.2 million children (high model) under the age of 5 and 12,000 to 60,000 pregnant women may die worldwide from the effects of shutdowns over COVID-19.

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/langlo/article/PIIS2214-109X(20)30229-1/fulltext

  510. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    From Washington Post — Garcia’s opponent conceded:

    “Republican Mike Garcia has won the competitive special election to replace a Democrat in California’s 25th congressional district, handing the GOP back one of the seats it lost in the 2018 midterms.

    His challenger, Democratic state Assemblywoman Christy Smith, conceded defeat Wednesday afternoon even as thousands of mail-in ballots were still uncounted.

    “While it’s critical that we ensure every vote is counted and recorded, we believe that the current tally shows Mike Garcia is the likely victor in the May 12 special election. As such, I’d like to congratulate him,” Smith said in a statement posted on her campaign’s Facebook page.

    Garcia held a comfortable 12-point lead over Smith with 76.3 percent of precincts reported at the time she conceded. Hours earlier, Republicans were already celebrating victory.”

  511. jason says:

    Naw, they we reach 2000 cases easily. Almost all of California to come in. That’s another 1200 cases for sure and they’ll get 900 out of LA alone. Connecticut is always good for a thousand. Then there’s the DeBlazio 6:00 dump.”

    CA is basically in now. CT also. NY cases have dropped dramatically, not much hope there.

    This is what we are comparing with, should be way under on both stats:

    May 6
    Deaths 2528
    Cases 25459

  512. jason says:

    The problem with any Biden scandal is that whenever he says “I don’t recall” he probably isn’t lying.

  513. Phil says:

    California is basically in now?

    Nope. LA and the big California counties have not reported a lick. The number of cases you are looking at from California came from the category “Unassigned‘. They just dumped that in there fifteen minutes ago – 1500 of the from out of thin air. What is unassigned? Hell, you tell me.

    Friday is the 15th, Jason. Through no fault of your own you never had a chance.

  514. wvally says:

    Little nugget from a former PA Hedgehogger:

    Increases in PA voter registration from 2016 to 2020 (out of 8.5 mil):

    Democrat +20k
    Republican +150K

    Ds still outnumber Rs 4.08M to 3.27M

    https://twitter.com/B_M_Finnigan/status/1260679665242509314

  515. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The Atlantic angrily claimed that Georgia ”was about to find out how many people need to lose their lives to shore up the economy.”

    “@boriquagato
    May 12
    now we can look at effects. GA started re-opening on 4/24 and were already moving that way before the law changed. that was 18 days ago.

    are the hospitals overwhelmed? nope.
    new hospitalizations are in serious downtrend. this is through may 11.
    no human sacrifice so far…

    @BrianKempGA looks to have gotten it right.
    how long will it be before your governor does?
    #DemandBetter

    @mrkramer391
    Replying to @boriquagato and @RMConservative

    We voted for the right candidate for Governor. Otherwise we would most likely be in absurd lockdown unsupported by science. You get what you vote for. We got a smart, principled conservative.

    @Beavis103
    Replying to
    @boriquagato
    Seems a lot of governors are really vested in the lockdown. Not sure why…

    @boldinventions

    Replying to
    @boriquagato
    “You obviously don’t care about people and you want them to die so your rich business owner friends can get a tiny bit richer.”

    J/K Just practicing my Libtard emulation skills.”

  516. Phil says:

    After researching it I found that “unassigned” means confirmed cases that have not been assigned a county. I suspect that’s how the Illinois dick got to 4000 cases yesterday.

    Now, why they wouldn’t have a county I have no idea but this is a tad suspicious. Gives Governors like Wolf another tool in his toolbox to infallible numbers.

  517. NYCmike says:

    A lot of stories in the NYC area about this Kawasaki disease…….BUT, I can’t find any context in regard to how many children are affected by this in previous years, so as to compare the current numbers to those.

    Does anyone have that information? Typing into Google, for some reason not getting any answers.

  518. Wes says:

    It’s over. Smith conceded. Garcia declared victory. Dems have no path to steal this one now.

  519. Tina says:

    Well trump just responded about a certain gubment doctor.

  520. Phil says:

    No problem. They’ll steal it back in November.

  521. NYCmike says:

    I did find a story from 2019 about a Kawasaki outbreak in San Diego, but no fatalities.

    The news in NYC, ever since Fauci recommended schools must test before re-starting in September, has been broadcasting this Kawasaki news non-stop.

    More fear tactics.

  522. NYCmike says:

    “how the Illinois dick”

    -Now that I think of it, has anyone heard from “CG”?

  523. DW says:

    The Dem shouldn’t have conceded. The lesson from 2016 is don’t concede until Wolf Blitzer says its over.

  524. Phil says:

    CG

    Mr Holier than thou….good question. I had forgotten about him.

  525. Tina says:

    Jamie Dupree
    @jamiedupree
    · 41m
    White House Pool relays Trump comments about Fauci testimony.

    Q: Do you have concerns about reopening like Dr. Fauci?
    “He wants to play all sides of the equation.”

    “I was surprised by his answer … To me it’s not an acceptable answer especially when it comes to schools.”

  526. NYCmike says:

    I hope he is healthy. He had alluded to a serious health issue a year or so ago, when we were speaking about investing and 401k’s, or his lack thereof. I never knew what the issue was.

    Either way, I hope he is well and breathing freely up on the moral high ground……while reading the released transcripts from Grenell.

  527. Tina says:

    Axios
    @axios
    ·
    1h
    Joe Biden’s presence on the list could turn it into an election year issue, though the document itself does not show any evidence of wrongdoing.
    Richard Grenell
    Republicans release list of Obama officials who requested “unmasking” in Flynn reports
    Trump’s allies claim that the Russia investigation was a political hit job by the Obama administration.
    axios.com

  528. wvally says:

    I am told…Flynn is the tip of the iceberg…this gets worse. “Adam you are looking at the foyer of a house that is a 20 bedroom mansion”

    https://twitter.com/adamhousley/status/1260658218461585409?s=21

    In lots of different threads the hinting is that loads of Rs were spied on throughout Obama years, along with SC justices.

  529. Tina says:

    Breaking

    Steve Herman
    @W7VOA
    · 2m
    #Wisconsin supreme court declares @GovEvers administration exceeded its authority by extending a stay-at-home order amid the #coronavirus pandemic. twitter.com/WiStateJournal…

  530. jason says:

    Friday is the 15th, Jason. Through no fault of your own you never had a chance.”

    LOL. Good A-hole comment.

    You have already lost the bet, the question is only whether I have won it.

    We haven’t been at 1800 (yeah, that was a gift since you were betting on 2000) for like 6 days in a row unless we get a late dump today.

    On the other hand, I have had at least one day at under 1000 so at the moment I am the moral winner.

    As for CA, there were only 1700 new cases yesterday so the current number of 1568 is probably pretty close. The LA county cases (1181) are already included in the “not assigned”.

  531. NYCmike says:

    “In lots of different threads the hinting is that loads of Rs were spied on throughout Obama years, along with SC justices.”

    -Hmmmmm…..Chief Justice Roberts…….??

  532. Tgca says:

    Looks like Pennsy Guv Wolf was right all along. Pennsy folks are cowards, or as we would say in the Sewer State of NJ, …felines…um…or another 7 character plural word for felines that starts with a “p” that is not appropriate language on HHR and that a decent Christian gentleman like me would NEVER use.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/13/report-capital-county-in-pennsylvania-backs-down-as-gov-wolf-threats-scare-citizens/

  533. NYCmike says:

    “Estimates indicate that at least 3,000 cases of Kawasaki disease are diagnosed each year in the United States. Males appear to be affected more frequently than females by a ratio of approximately 1.5 to 1.”

    -Ok, finally found something.

    Average is 3,000, or about 250 per month.

    Right now, I am seeing reports of about 150 cases across the United States.

    WHY IS THIS A STORY!?!?

  534. wvally says:

    MSM will try to downplay, obfuscate, but it’s a losing battle. How did Biden’s numbers drop after Tara Reade when networks didn’t cover it til AFTER his poll numbers started dropping?

    130 m voters in 2016

    About 40m daily tv news viewers
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/network-newscasts-keep-up-ratings-momentum-pandemic-1291263

    330 m active users on twitter, 145 m on a daily basis.

    Trump has 80 m Twitter followers.

    Facebook 1.73 billion daily users

    Random people can sometimes get as many impressions as cable news networks.

  535. Tgca says:

    Ouch! Radical right Trump butt licker IN senator Braun on Fauci supports Rand’s viewpoint.

    So Braun thinks the DC bureaucrats are out of control. Hmmm…I wonder who else has been preaching that around here.

    Fauci said recently that if the country reopens too soon during the coronavirus outbreak, it will bring “needless suffering and death.”

    Braun said that the reliance on Fauci as the primary source for the coronavirus response is symbolic for what is wrong with Washington, DC.

    He told Breitbart News, “I think that it shows what is wrong with this place over decades where you have had liberal politicians, many so-called conservatives, end up rolling over and allowing the bureaucracy to get that strong.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/13/mike-braun-establishment-infatuation-with-fauci-shows-whats-wrong-with-d-c/

  536. wvally says:

    Trumps numbers are dropping w seniors, probably legacy media having the greatest impact there.

  537. Tina says:

    Trump on Maria’s show tomorrow

    Here is an excerpt

    https://mobile.twitter.com/LizRNC/status/1260681317043372035

  538. Tina says:

    Obama Sullivan is making some crazy decisions,

  539. Tgca says:

    562

    I note Braun is a Harvard Business School masters degree alumn who also was an undergrad Econ major that graduated summa cum laude.

    I wonder if he knows how to do financial or economic modeling? I should email him to see what advanced math classes he took and if he knows advanced Excel or R?

    It would be nice to find other like-minded trained folks.

    I bet he likes to discuss ABORTION too!

    Ooooh! I’m feeling like Chris Matthews. I get that same thrill up my leg when I read about Senator Braun. My new hero.

  540. Tgca says:

    Over 50% of COVID-19 deaths come from 3 northeast liberal states per article below. Interesting…

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/13/controversial-decisions-governors-ny-nj-pa-criticized-factors-high-level-covid-19-nursing-home-deaths/

    Table 2
    Ten States With Most COVID-19 Deaths
    As of May 12, 2020
    (Source: Worldometers)

    State Deaths
    New York. 27,166
    New Jersey 9,532
    Massachusetts. 5,141
    Michigan 4,674
    Pennsylvania 3,917
    Illinois 3,601
    Connectict 3,041
    California 2,847
    Louisiana 2,347
    Florida 1,782

    Total US 83,231

  541. wvally says:

    Libs on twitter screeching that Flynn’s “illegal” call triggered the unmasking. They haven’t even read the docs. Tons of unmasking requests before that. They have a few people who give them talking points but they don’t have time to keep up.

    They will not be able to stop what’s coming. Massive declassification of Obama activities. Not just spying on republicans (and some dems). Remember the IRS targeting conservatives? Cash for Iran? Gun running in Mexico?

    Don’t think Trump won’t pull out all the stops.

  542. Robbie says:

    I’m starting to wonder if the blue state governors are going to have to ask Newsom to double up on his duties. It seems clear he was assigned the task of ruining the sports seasons by prohibiting play in California. But since the others are falling short on their case numbers, will they ask him start producing bigger cases numbers? If Cali starts producing 3,000 plus days soon, we’ll know the answer.

  543. Tina says:

    Well the deep state Judge Obama Sullivan is not helping.
    He is so out of bounds.
    Kyle Cheney
    @kyledcheney
    · 48m
    BREAKING: Judge SULLIVAN has appointed retired judge to argue against the government’s motion to dismiss the charge against Flynn.

  544. Tina says:

    The entire trump transition team was illegally surveilled.

    There is no way trump was not surveilled

  545. Tina says:

    46
    325
    1K

    Undercover Huber
    @JohnWHuber
    ·
    9m
    OLD AND BUSTED: We didn’t spy on the Trump team, no sir

    NEW HOTNESS: Of course we were spying on the Trump team. It was a routine thing. Hell, we were obligated to spy on them every minute of the day and if you disagree, well, you’re a Russian asset and we’ll spy on you too

  546. Tina says:

    Wow, Obama Sullivan appointed a retired judge John Gleeson to argue against the gubment emotion to dismiss.

    The only problem is Gleeson has already judged the case

    eeted

    Techno Fog
    @Techno_Fog
    ·
    7m
    Former Judge John Gleeson – the amicus appointed by Judge Sullivan – has already judged the case.

    “The [Flynn] record reeks of improper political influence.”

    Seems to say a lot about Judge Sullivan’s motives.

    Even his amicus is biased.

  547. jason says:

    If today closes out at around 20k cases we are about at half of the peak of 39k on April 24. And on April 24th we had 925k cases, so that was over a 4% daily increase.

    20k cases on 1.4 million cases is a 1.4% daily increase.

    And yesterday for the first time we had fewer active cases than the day before 1028000 cases vs 1041000 cases.

  548. Tina says:

    Judge Obama Sullivan needs to be removed from the bench.

    Victoria Toensing
    @VicToensing
    · 10h
    Does Judge Sullivan read SupCt decisions? Last week SupCt held using amici was “drastic departure” and “abuse of discretion.” Why amici for @GenFlynn now when Judge refused Flynn friends amici 24 times. Judge shld be removed from case…then from Bench. #obamagate #maga

  549. Tina says:

    This is a kangaroo court. Judge Hillary Gleeson is corrupt.

    Sydney Powell needs to put an end to this sheot show.

  550. Phil says:

    No, John Roberts needs to step in.

  551. Robbie says:

    There’s a big protest scheduled for tomorrow in Lansing, Michigan. I hope it’s large and rowdy. Whitmer is the face of the American police state.

  552. Robbie says:

    Maryland announces it’s reopening at 50% occupancy. Wisonsin’s throwing the door open on Friday. Meanwhile, Comrade Beshear has us at 33% occupancy until the sun rises in the West and sets in the East. Even better, Comrade Beshear, after wrecking our economy, is now demanding Mitch McConnell give us a federal bailout.

  553. lisab says:

    hate to tell you the obvious …

    but the dems don’t think it was at all wrong for obama to spy on the incoming trump people

    indeed, they probably think it was necessary surveillance given trump’s support from the russians

    i mean, if trump was helped by russia to beat the obviously more qualified and more deserving hillary … don’t you think obama et al. should have been investigating them?

    it stands to reason …

  554. Phil says:

    No worse than the governors of Illinois, Maine, Pa, NY, California, Oregon, Robbie. From what you have shared with us about your own Governor he’d be joining them if he thought he could get away with it in a very red state.

    They are pretty much all the same. Same authoritarian mentality.

  555. Ron N says:

    Don’t leave out my idiot Governor from WA. He’s trying to destroy the state.

  556. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    May 13, 2020 at 8:30 pm
    No worse than the governors of Illinois, Maine, Pa, NY, California, Oregon, Robbie. From what you have shared with us about your own Governor he’d be joining them if he thought he could get away with it in a very red state.

    They are pretty much all the same. Same authoritarian mentality.

    – Two thoughts.

    First, how often do we see leaders given emergency powers in a crisis give them back when the crisis has passed? Not often.

    Second, I think these blue state governors were shocked at how willing the American people were to stay home for a period in an effort to do our part. And now that they’ve seen how easy it was to do this, they just want to push it and push it figuring we’ll continue to believe the fear.

  557. Robbie says:

    Ron N says:
    May 13, 2020 at 8:37 pm
    Don’t leave out my idiot Governor from WA. He’s trying to destroy the state.

    – What’s amazing is Inslee, Pritzker, Newsom, and the rest will win easily in 2022.

  558. Phil says:

    Not amazing. One party states. These governors can do anything they want.

    What is sad is to see a competitive state like Pennsylvania elect an authoritarian leftist like Wolf and then overwhelmingly re-elected him. That’s why I have no sympathy for the electorate there.

  559. PresidentPaul! says:

    FBI ‘Mistakenly’ Releases 9/11 Bombshell In Court: Key Saudi Diplomat Who “Tasked” Hijackers Named

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/fbi-mistakenly-releases-911-bombshell-court-key-saudi-diplomat-link-hijackers-named

    “A Yahoo News exclusive reveals, based on what has since been admitted as “a giant screw-up,” the identity of “a mysterious Saudi Embassy official in Washington who agents suspected had directed crucial support to two of the al-Qaida hijackers.””

  560. Country Dick Montana says:

    1772 deaths today vs.2528 last Wednesday

    Rolling 7 Day Average Deaths
    4/20 – 2137
    4/21 – 2174
    4/22 – 2154
    4/23 – 2178
    4/24 – 2095
    4/25 – 2124
    4/26 – 2066
    4/27 – 1987
    4/28 – 1959
    4/29 – 1966
    4/30 – 1946
    5/01 – 1938
    5/02 – 1884
    5/03 – 1884
    5/04 – 1875
    5/05 – 1858
    5/06 – 1878
    5/07 – 1867
    5/08 – 1837
    5/09 – 1799
    5/10 – 1741
    5/11 – 1696
    5/12 – 1593
    5/13 – 1485

    Last 6 Wednesdays

    4/8 – 1947
    4/15 – 2482
    4/22 – 2341
    4/29 – 2390
    5/6 – 2528
    5/13 – 1772

  561. Country Dick Montana says:

    Rolling 7 Day Average Cases

    4/25 – 30865
    4/26 – 30960
    4/27 – 30256
    4/28 – 30174
    4/29 – 29953
    4/30 – 29797
    5/01 – 29427
    5/02 – 28585
    5/03 – 28709
    5/04 – 28926
    5/05 – 28838
    5/06 – 28414
    5/07 – 28215
    5/08 – 27515
    5/09 – 26652
    5/10 – 25645
    5/11 – 24714
    5/12 – 24429
    5/13 – 23894

  562. jason says:

    May 6
    Deaths 2528
    Cases 25459

    May 13
    Death 1772
    Cases 21712

  563. jason says:

    Dang, if the bet with the aspiring A-hole was decided today I would have escaped by 28 deaths.

    Too close for comfort.

  564. PresidentPaul! says:

    CCP demands Daryl Morey be “properly handled” before NBA will air in China despite the fact that Michael Ma – the son of CCTV co-founder Ma Guoli – was appointed as CEO of NBA China.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-still-bitter-wants-houston-rockets-gm-properly-handled-over-hong-kong-support


    On Tuesday, China’s state mouthpiece the Global Times published an article saying that Ma’s appointment was nice, but the NBA needs to ‘properly handle’ Morey over his support of the Hong Kong protests last year.”

  565. wvally says:

    “5) jason will continue his reign as HHR’s most prolific A-hole”

    -wvally,

    We were looking for predictions, not certainties.

    ***

    Looks like I blew my own prediction today unless jason’s about to let it rip.

  566. jason says:

    Another reopen rally in Harrisburg at the Capitol at noon on Friday. I will be there.

  567. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump should put the tariffs back on China.

    It’s such a trash can country.

  568. jason says:

    I wasn’t the most prolific just because I am an A-hole.

  569. jason says:

    Trump should put the tariffs back on China.

    It’s such a trash can country.”

    Paulbots and AFL-CIO conservatives…strong coalition.

  570. jason says:

    Question:

    Is the fact that the NBA is China’s b-tch the fault of China or the fault of the NBA?

  571. Tgca says:

    Interesting point of view from Dr. Marc Siegel who knows Fauci and has written books on epidemics and pandemics in the past. For what it’s worth, he points out three areas where Fauci and folks were wrong and suggests it made the pandemic worse and gave examples to support his view.

    1. Fauci and company believing China was being transparent
    2. The lockdown came too late
    3. Closing schools

    Fauci is on video saying on Jan 22nd with his exact words being:

    China is much much more transparent
    China is really transparent now

    This goes to the argument that Fauci and W.H.O. were hoodwinked by China and then influenced political leaders when they should have known better. This is not about their knowledge, credentials or pedigree which is not in dispute, it’s about their bad judgment and how the reliance on them as the experts badly influenced gubbermint leaders.

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/sometimes-hes-absurd-tucker-carlson-hits-fauci-again-slams-him-over-january-comments-about-china/

  572. PresidentPaul! says:

    China does this to every country and every organization.

    That’s why huawei gets to lay the 5g infrastructure in Britain so that the CCP will have its spy apparatus embedded within core infrastructure.

    That way whenever push comes to shove it can do even more blackmailing.

  573. PresidentPaul! says:

    Trump blocks dollars headed to the CCP abyss

    #Trump blocks $4.5bn headed for China This “money [federal government’s retirement savings fund] would have gone to companies that violate U.S. sanctions and assist the Chinese Regime’s efforts to build its military and oppress religious minorities.” -in a letter to the managers

  574. Tina says:

    Jason, where are your numbers compared to the models?

  575. jason says:

    IHME Model

    Projected Actual
    May 1 2343 1897 – 446
    May 2 2276 1691 – 585
    May 3 2265 1153 -1112
    May 4 2205 1324 – 881
    May 5 2180 2350 + 170
    May 6 2143 2528 + 385
    May 7 2097 2129 + 32
    May 8 2039 1687 – 352
    May 9 1971 1422 – 549
    May10 1921 750 – 1171
    May11 1898 1008 – 890
    May12 1803 1630 – 173
    May13 1774 1772 – 2

  576. janz says:

    Tgca, Fauci also said face masks only made people feel good and actually were not imperative to wear, until all of sudden they were. Then there was that money that was given to the Wuhan lab. Oh yes, while Trump says Fauci is a good man, he told Marie Bartiromo this morning that he doesn’t agree with him about school closures. Finally, Trump is separating himself from one of the experts.

  577. lisab says:

    closing the schools, even next fall

    is having some good effects … not enough to balance the negatives

    negatives:
    obviously children are at home and need supervision, which they are not getting in many cases — many children are just skipping classes

    many children have lost access to friends, and socialization

    some children are missing food
    etc.

    positives:
    suddenly the IT in schools is being shown to be very bad in many cases. until now the administrators usually had no IT problems that messed them up, so they did not care if things for teachers did not work … now they are being not just inconvenienced, but high up people are asking questions, like why cannot any of the teachers use zoom?

    i think that going forward IT people in schools will be hired based more on skills than in the past

    and teachers will get more IT training

  578. lisab says:

    he told Marie Bartiromo this morning that he doesn’t agree with him about school closures
    ———————————

    he is correct from an education point of view

    i advise everyone who does not educate their children to sign up for a home school online program … that is, and internet based school specifically used by home schoolers.

    why? because they are set up to do lessons online.

    most brick and mortar schools are almost dead in the water. children are getting a LOT more homework, but very little learning.

  579. PresidentPaul! says:

    Our education system is joke anyways.

    The way you teach English class is by sentence diagramming and word parsing.

    You can’t go on to teach writing when they don’t know the basics of where commas are supposed to go.

    But that hasn’t been taught in 100 years or so.

    Hence the only students who actually learn english are those that read tons of books at a young age and just naturally figure these things organically rather than being taught it. But even the A students usually have a very weak understanding of the language.

    That’s why they get butchered when they take the ACT exam (if they take it) even though the content on the test is grade school level.

  580. janz says:

    Lisab, Trump feels if schools remain closed in the Fall, it will make it impossible to get the economy on track. Also, read a joke where teacher unions want the schools to open up before students learn to critically think for themselves.

  581. jason says:

    he told Marie Bartiromo this morning that he doesn’t agree with him about school closures”

    Zzzzzz…. no mention that Fauci didn’t actually say schools could not reopen.

    Fauci also said face masks only made people feel good and actually were not imperative to wear, until all of sudden they were”

    Dishonest, lying BS, and repeating this canard does not make it true. The change in policy had nothing to do with whether ordinary masks prevented the virus, but whether more people wearing masks might reduce the spread from infected people.

  582. jason says:

    Finally, Trump is separating himself from one of the experts.”

    Fake news.

    Trump has never liked some of the task force recommendations, and has made that clear. But he has been smart enough to follow them.

    Trump understands what Fauci is about. He knows he needs Fauci a lot more than Fauci needs him.

    As we evolve more towards managing the pandemic rather than just trying to mitigate it, the task force will become less visible, and Fauci and Birx will have different roles.

    But fortunately, at least so far, the efforts of the MSM and the Fauci haters to “separate” Trump and Fauci have not really worked.

  583. Phil says:

    Jason, you will lose Friday.

    I have the blue state governors on my side. They control the numbers. Governor Wolf and company will deliver on Friday. Like all Democrats they play to win. I’m sorry.

    If by chance, however, my blue state governors slip up (they NEVER slip up on weekdays, only on weekends), I will gladly pay up. I’ll even pick you up at the airport. Order anything you want… However, I’d hope you have already started to write that letter of recommendation to the membership committee. You underestimate yourself as far as being an A-Hole. You are not just one of a group. In fact, you are Mr. A-Hole, sir. Your sponsorship carries incredible weight. I will be proud to have your sponsorship.

  584. Janz says:

    Fauci’s remarks were taken from a live earlier interview, and repeatedly referenced in numerous commentaries. It’s more about saving face than defending Fauci to go through the nonsense some people go through to make a pointless point.

  585. Phil says:

    Trump should not separate himself from Fauci. That’s what the media and the left wants. That would be bad politics. Instead just let him talk – then open the schools, let sports come back, and follow his inclinations. If there are hot spot that come up he can pull back. Listen to Blix. Give lip service to Fauci.

  586. jason says:

    Phil, I would certainly rather lose a bet for the first time ever at HHR to you than to any other A-hole or a-hole.

    Hopefully, such a crack to A-hole reputation will not happen.

    Friday will tell, you do have some powerful allies in those blue state governor frauds.

  587. jason says:

    and repeatedly referenced in numerous commentaries”

    LOL

    Goebbels would be proud.

  588. Bitterlaw says:

    Ignorant Phil seems to think PA only elects Dems as Governor. It pretty much alternates between parties going back to the 60s.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_governors_of_Pennsylvania

    Wolf won in 2018 in an anti-Trump wave election. Of course, he did not run as an authoritarian. Most voters could not name anything he did in office before this year.

    Ignorant Phil should show more respect to the voters of PA since they were critical in electing Trump – something Ignorant Phil said would never happen.

  589. jason says:

    “Trump should not separate himself from Fauci. That’s what the media and the left wants.”

    Yep, they know Trump would be very vulnerable if they are able to get rid of Fauci.

    But yes, Trump needs to take into account other factors, and I think he is doing that.

  590. jason says:

    Phil, Bitter is a hard hitting A-hole.

    Don’t expect preferential treatment if you become an A-hole, he will still call you Ignorant Phil.

  591. hugh says:

    Jason has backed fauci from day one and can never back off of it. Phil is right. Trump has to keep the nerd, but just keep moving forward. If hilary was pres and fauci was acting like this he would be gone and destroyed by the media. they have an advantage trump does not. but that is not my evening rant.

    Here is my evening rant Burr abdicated to Warren and snubbed the gop and trump for three years. So lets see if his buddies on the left defend him for his inside trading, because us on the right could care less if he rots in prison. and yes I want to keep the senate, but he is the most worthless republican other than romney. hey mitt please give me back my campaign contribution.

  592. jason says:

    Of course, he did not run as an authoritarian”

    Right, and I am sure he was surprised he could actually turn into one, given that most of the time he tries to explain away his failure to do anything on the Republican legislature.

    He looked around and saw a bunch of Dem fascist Governors and said “hey, me too”.

  593. jason says:

    ‘defend him for his inside trading”

    Zzzzzz… more fake news. I doubt any “insider trading” would ever stick, and frankly, I doubt there was any illegality on what he or any of the other senators did.

    Romney IS a scumbag, but I don’t regret voting for him over Obama. He is second on my list of senators I would get rid of after Rand Paul.

  594. Bitterlaw says:

    Phil- Don’t be fooled by Jason. A-holes have a great capacity to bury things. He is just looking to gain you as an ally. He loves to create fissures in the A-holes.

  595. jason says:

    Jason has backed fauci from day one and can never back off of it.”

    Yep, I think Trump put together a great coronavirus task force. Pence, Birx, Fauci, the Surgeon General, etc. I think they give Trump tremendous credibility that he would not have without them.

    It doesn’t mean that I think their view should always prevail to the exclusion of anything else.

  596. jason says:

    He loves to create fissures in the A-holes.”

    Very unfair. I have always advocated the A-holes hang tight.

  597. jason says:

    You underestimate yourself as far as being an A-Hole.”

    I think that deserves points.

  598. Phil says:

    Lay into me, bitter. I would expect no more nor no less from you. You are a true A-Hole all the way. I’m just a beginner but I hope to be there some day. Keep it coming.

  599. Bitterlaw says:

    I respect somebody who asks an A-hole to spew at him.

  600. mRviTO says:

    IMPORTANT THREAD

    Jonathan Turley
    @JonathanTurley
    Judge Sullivan has now appointed a retired judge to look into “whether the Court should issue an Order to Show Cause why Mr. Flynn should not be held in criminal contempt for perjury.” Thus, the court is not only considering denying an uncontested motion for dismissal but…

    …considering a new charge based on Flynn’s effort to withdraw his plea. Consider the implications for many cases where defendants seek to withdraw pleas due to prosecutorial abuse. It would create a threat of a judicial charge even when prosecutors agree with defendants.

    Judge Sullivan was previously criticized for suggesting that Flynn could be charged with treason. He is now allowing third parties to make arguments in a criminal case on an unopposed motion. In addition, he is exploring a charge that he might be able to bring against Flynn…

    …These extraordinary moves by the court are increasingly discomforting. This is a single charge where significant jail time was neither warranted nor expected. The Court’s effort to import arguments and explore new charges could be raised on appeal given the prior record…

    …there comes a point where the Court appears too invested in the punishment of a defendant and too active in creating alternatives to dismissal. As a criminal defense attorney, I find these moves unnerving, particularly when prosecutorial abuse has been raised by DOJ and others.

  601. janz says:

    Rebecca Ballhaus
    @rebeccaballhaus
    Trump to Fox Business News on Fauci: “So Anthony is a good person, a very good person, I’ve disagreed with him. When I closed the border to China he disagreed with that and then ultimately he agreed. … I totally disagree with him on schools.”
    2:10 PM · May 13, 2020

  602. Tina says:

    Burrs brother in law appears to have benefitted from insider trading.

    This is not good, if true.

    In all fairness, they need to look at the other drats that did the same, ie frankenstein.

  603. Hugh says:

    So Jason. Burr is an expert or is just a very lucky senator with inside information who sold at the right time. That’s how Harry Reid came to the senate with little wealth and retired as a
    Multi millionaire even though he never came close to my annual earnings. Yet I ever made a killing on a timing trade. I hope burr roasts. I am pretty sure he was not lucky or smart. He cheated.

  604. VictrC says:

    So far 62,885 out of the 85,197 deaths in the USA, or approx 75% are in 8 states. NY, NJ, CT, MA, PA, MD, IL, MI and CA.

    The other 42 states, 31 of which has less than 550 deaths total, have 22,312,

    26 of those states are beginning to open up responsibly. GA has been open three weeks and no surge. Likewise in TX, nearly 2 weeks and no surge.

    Testing is better and increasing daily. The hospitals system did not get stressed to its max and can now manage hot spots.

    The left doesn’t like this as it wants the US to state closed as long as it can to inflict as much damage on the administration, so their latest “marketing ploy” is a little survey they are promoting on facebook, twitter and other social media asking:

    “Do you feel confident that it is safe to return to normal activities”

    This misleading question is designed to make people think that Red state Gov’s (because that is who is opening up) and the President are being irresponsible and want everyone to return to NORMAL ACTIVITIES right now. Which of course, is a flat out lie and misleading. These Gov’s are advocating for a slow, measured and careful three stage opening up, as written in the Presidents guidelines, and must meet criteria to advance further.

    Normal activities are far off, even in states like GA, TX, FL, OK, et al.

    It is sad how this pandemic is being politicized and how citizens are being misled into being scared instead of being presented the facts.

  605. Country Dick Montana says:

    https://triblive.com/news/pennsylvania/a-pressure-cooker-gov-wolf-aims-to-contain-gop-revolt-in-pennsylvania/

    This is what passes as “straight” news from the Associated Press:

    “By many accounts, Gov. Tom Wolf has helped mitigate Pennsylvania’s coronavirus outbreak and avoided the full-blown disasters seen elsewhere. His success in the next challenge — containing the growing resistance to his efforts — is to be determined.”

    Nothing here about 70% of deaths in nursing homes due to his orders to send sick people back.

  606. dblaikie says:

    Would not be surprised if DOJ files a writ of mandamus to throw out Judge Sullivan.

  607. PresidentPaul! says:

    #633
    You mean Pelosi’s husband?

  608. dblaikie says:

    BOOM! New Reuters poll on generic ballot has the GOP +3! In the wake of the victory in CA 25 this many not be an outlier. We began this week with 538 predicting the “hint” of a blue wave with the special elections this week because supposedly the electorate is mad at Trump over the Coronavirus. And now this poll.

    I have held back slightly about this but I believe that these Democratic Governors and the media complex have made a terrible mistake in supporting prolonged shut downs for weeks and weeks. The final shoe to drop was Fauci words about school not starting in the fall. That did not sit well with the majority of Americans.

    These Governors with the support of the media have put the brutal foot of unrestricted power on the necks of millions of folks who are dependent on small businesses. These people vote. And many of them have voted blue in the past. Not anymore!

    I never thought that California would turn purple in my lifetime. But now I am not so sure. Between Gavin Newsome and the Mayor of LA anger at their refusal to open up is going to boil over. The same is true in PA, Maine, NJ, VA, NY and other places.

    538 has been turned on is head. The special elections of Tuesday give a big hint that their is red wave coming.

  609. jason says:

    I am pretty sure he was not lucky or smart. He cheated.”

    Zzzzzzzz…..

    You don’t know that. You don’t like Burr because he doesn’t meet your partisan litmus tests, so you feel free to condemn him without knowing any of the facts.

    So far there is no evidence whatsoever that Burr was privy to any non-public “inside information”, let alone that he engaged in insider trading.

    There were millions of trades from people worried about the effects of the pandemic, and Burr had the same right as every other stock holder to sell his stocks. So did Infofe, Loeffler and Feinstein, the latter two allegedly didn’t even control their portfolios and weren’t even aware of the transactions.

    IF it is determined that Burr was privy to non-public information (and the existence of the virus was certainly public) AND used it for personal benefit then that is another story. But that story has not been written yet.

    Until it is, Burr should be given the benefit of the doubt.

  610. jason says:

    I like coming here to read dblaikie’s alternate reality.

    His posts are like my dream list of what I would like to happen.

    So far I see no evidence there is majority support in the blue states to go against their governors. The pushback I see, and that I support (going to the reopen rally tomorrow) so far seems limited to a rather small minority.

    I hope this changes. But the fact is, poll after poll, more people believe in their governors in these states than they do in Trump. I don’t understand why the MSM has been so successful in making it so, I would expect people to be less acquiescent about losing their lively hoods, but those are the facts.

    It is one of the reasons why I think Fauci is important. Without him, that number would be even smaller.

  611. dblaikie says:

    Turns out I jumped the gun. I thought the Rueters poll was current. I was wrong. Teach me to read twitter more carefully. However I stand by what I said in the above post. And the special elections of last Tuesday under gird my argument. Sorry about the mistake.

  612. DW says:

    The communist reporter at the NY Times reaction to Smith conceding defeat in CA_25:

    “Though officials have not yet completed the count in California’s special election, Christy Smith has announced she is conceding the race to Mike Garcia.”

    You can tell the disappointment that there wasn’t any effort made to steal it.

    Sounds just like Wolf Blitzer on election night 2016…Why did Clinton concede? CNN has not yet called it!

  613. jason says:

    The special elections of Tuesday give a big hint that their is red wave coming”

    I don’t see it. I hope it is the case, but one special election does not a wave make.

    To play devil’s advocate here, Rs won the CA election for other reasons besides a “red wave”

    1) This is a former R district, it is not very “blue” to start with.
    2) Rs had a good candidate. Hispanic. Military.
    3) D incumbent resigned after sex scandal.
    4) Special election with lower turnout.

    The important thing about this election was that it did put a dent in the “blue wave” narrative. It might also help the fundraising efforts of other Rs in CA trying to win back some seats.

    But harbinger of “red wave”? No.

  614. DW says:

    “In lots of different threads the hinting is that loads of Rs were spied on throughout Obama years, along with SC justices.”

    We knew that Obama had something on John Roberts.

  615. dblaikie says:

    Why Jason that you always like to read my alternate reality has always touched me. And as for the current polls (sorry about the rueters mistake) the elections both national and for state offices fly in the face of them. Alternate reality or not, bogus polls or not, I believe that this nation has had enough of these power hungry blue state leaders.

    Call me crazy, call me a dreamer, call me whatever you want. But I believe that the longer this forced shutdown continues in blue states the more people are going to turn against their leaders and they are blue.

  616. DW says:

    Ha…a new poll for CA_25:

    DCCC Targeting and Analytics Department
    MAY 6-10, 2020

    Smith 48
    Garcia 46

    Of course the actual results were Garcia 56 / Smith 44.

  617. jason says:

    Why did Clinton concede? CNN has not yet called it!”

    Right, I thought MSNBC was going to cut from Trump’s victory speech to a Kornacki segment where he would say “Lebanon Co. still out in PA” (went for Trump 66-30).

  618. Country Dick Montana says:

    I remember seeing a poll in Ras a few weeks back. There is a real gender divide on the issue of opening up. Men are more likely to be concerned about the economic issues related to a continued shutdown, while women overwhelmingly support shutdowns if they lead to a perceived safer environment.

    Why women, especially educated suburban women want a more intrusive government is beyond me, and quite frankly frightening. This is how we get full blown socialism in January 2021

  619. jason says:

    We knew that Obama had something on John Roberts.”

    I never knew that.

  620. dblaikie says:

    Sorry Jason, you know how much I respect you, but the turnaround in CA 25 was well over 20 points!! Your four listed reasons can’t explain that great a turn around. In addition, a state senate and a state representative seat also flipped on Tuesday.

    However, we are close, the distance between putting a dent in the blue wave narrative and the believing that the results hint to a red wave are not that far apart.

  621. DW says:

    Talk to me about a red wave when Trump’s approval consistently holds at 58%. Right now we jump for joy when it gets up to 49%.

  622. PresidentPaul! says:

    Sp500 hit the 61.8% fib retracement during the first bear rally after the 2008 crash, and when sp bounced to 2930 this time the same thing occurred.

    Coincidence or just the gold ratio rules the world again?

  623. jason says:

    To be fair to Kornacki, when it was pointed out to him that Lebanon was still out, he did say “if Hillary hopes to be saved by Lebanon Co. I am afraid she is out of luck, this county went big for Romney”(63-35)

  624. jason says:

    Well, Trump wins with an approval of 50% on election day, doesn’t need 58%. That would be enough to carry almost all the swing states.

  625. jason says:

    In addition, a state senate and a state representative seat also flipped on Tuesday.”

    Are you sure?

    I thought the senate seat was held by a R who resigned.

  626. jason says:

    Coincidence or just the gold ratio rules the world again?”

    Speaking of alternate reality….

  627. dblaikie says:

    DW there is no way on God’s green earth that the media would ever release a poll showing Trump at 58%! They would trash it.

    I am sorry to say, but at least in the realm of Presidential politics polls are no longer made to reveal an accurate picture of the electorate they are made to support the media narrative. If they reveal something they are buried in page 35 next to the obituary section in the paper.

    However, not to be a total cynic, I do believe that state polls are more revelatory and honest than national polls.

  628. Tina says:

    eckoning Collision symbol Retweeted

    Saagar Enjeti
    @esaagar
    ·
    37m
    .
    @POTUS
    said this morning we may cutoff all trade with China: “We could cut off the whole relationship. If we did, what would happen? You’d save $500 billion”

  629. jason says:

    If Trump cut off all trade with China I would vote for Biden.

  630. jason says:

    But I don’t think that will happen.

  631. Country Dick Montana says:

    “If Trump cut off all trade with China I would vote for Biden.”

    Again, let them make and sell to us iPhones and other trinkets. Necessities like medicine, chips for our military and infrastructure, etc, the things that we can’t do without make here.

  632. Robbie says:

    Delta has 15,000 pilots. Today, there pilot group was told Delta will be overstaffed by 7,000 pilots in the Fall. A complete catastrophe for the industry.

    On April 1, Anthony Fauci called the shutdown and unemployment a minor inconvenience.

  633. Phil says:

    Trump needs to stay stay quiet about threatening China trade although I’m fine about him staying critical of China. They deserve it. They deserve every word. I’m also fine with him openly disagreeing with Fauci about opening schools in the fall and opening sports. Fauci is wrong plus both those positions are out of the mainstream. More importantly, they are nuts.

    It’s an election year. Trump needs to be smart.

  634. Tina says:

    Sounds like if we cut off.

    Not we will cut off.

    And we need to see the entire interview.

  635. Tina says:

    I presume this is from Maria’s show this am.

  636. Tina says:

    I am waiting in my car for a doctors appr. I have mask gloves and a gallon of purell.

    Listening to 2 rinos on the radio upset with China Biden lying about the unmasking of Flynn and how he walked right into it on stephejatevers interview.

  637. Phil says:

    I fear it will be a tough road back for the airline industry along with many others.

    Exactly what Democrats and Never Trumpers want to see. Crash the economy through and through. Who cares what happens to people’s lively hoods. It’s all about getting Trump. These people are eaten up with it. There are just some things far more important than a presidential election. They know this but just don’t care. Ends justify the means. To them, whatever it takes.

  638. Tina says:

    Get it out from judge Obama Sullivan. He gets the amici’s judge who is biased against Flynn. North Korea and cccp would be proud.

    Margot Cleveland
    @ProfMJCleveland
    ·
    1h
    Last night I said DOJ needs to file a writ of mandamus & seek reassignment on remand. I lawsplain what that means and why it is appropriate today
    @FDRLST

  639. Phil says:

    Here’s the problem for Democrats.

    Refuse to open up and and crash the economy. Scream about how bad “Trump’s economy” is. Ok.

    Problem is advocating keeping everything closed plays against an improving economy.

    Trump advocating getting the economy opened up is a position for an improving economy. Everyone knows those two are are tied together. Democrats want to go on the campaign trail and argue to keep it closed and the economy in a depression like state? Have at it. Might play in the blue states – for another month or two even….but in the swing states? It’s an out and out dead loser.

  640. Robbie says:

    I haven’t taken a position on this until now, but Trump should either fire Fauci or layer him over with other doctors who can drown out Fauci’s shutdown focused prescription.

  641. Phil says:

    Layer him over, Robbie.

  642. Country Dick Montana says:

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/wisconsin-bar-crowds-stay-at-home-order-supreme-court-coronavirus

    “Today, Republican legislators convinced four members of the state Supreme Court to throw the state into chaos,” Evers said in a Wednesday evening press conference. “They have provided no plan. There’s no question among anybody that people are going to get sick. Republicans own that chaos.”

    Translation: I want my unlimited, tyrannical power back before people realize this is not the end of the world.

    Of course all of the Dem counties shut the bars back down

  643. janz says:

    My dismay with Fauci, as being a negative COVID advice-giver, has only grown. However, to fire him would only add more deleterious Dem spin to how the pandemic is being handled. So, like Robbie and Phil have posted, adding more sensible task force medical advisers would crowd out and dilute the extremism Fauci seems to always be injecting into pandemic conversations.

  644. NYCmike says:

    #674 – Ok, now I understand what is going on.

    Reverse psychology!

    Robbie is prescribing common sense solutions in the hope that there is a future spike of cases, which will have nothing to do with the common sense solutions, but which the media can blame on Trump, thereby getting Biden elected and Trump thrown out of the White House.

  645. NYCmike says:

    jason says:
    May 14, 2020 at 8:58 am

    “(fill in the blank).”

    “I never knew that.”

    -Another one for the list……we will need another carton of 5000 sheets of paper.

  646. MichiganGuy says:

    jason says:
    May 14, 2020 at 10:02 am
    If Trump cut off all trade with China I would vote for Biden.
    .
    Let that sink in folks. Shepherd boy would rather vote for Biden. His love for China the country that: manipulation its currency, forces political prisons to work in their factories, building up its military in the south china sea that will be used to block trade routes, steals our intellectual property and spreads propaganda against the US. They are now telling the world that the US army started the coronavirus. Chinajason now wants to join chinabiden. Surprise, surprise well not really. MD and Author came out of the closet so to speak. I knew it wouldn’t be long for chinajason.

  647. Wes says:

    Burr is stepping down as Intelligence Chair.

  648. NYCmike says:

    Oh boy, here we go.

    I’ll check back in later.

  649. NYCmike says:

    “Burr is stepping down as Intelligence Chair.”

    -Who is in line to replace him? Hopefully not another “jason-hero-type”.

  650. NYCmike says:

    I see Tom Cotton on that committee, but I believe several others are senior to him……unfortunately.

  651. NYCmike says:

    Then again, is it determined by seniority or other factors??

  652. NYCmike says:

    On the website, they are listed in this order:

    Republicans

    James Risch Idaho
    Marco Rubio Florida
    Susan Collins Maine
    Roy Blunt Missouri
    Tom Cotton Arkansas
    John Cornyn Texas
    Ben Sasse Nebraska

  653. Paul says:

    NYCmike: Trump should fire Fauci. He has usurped Trump’s authority. Trump’s knows how to handle COVID better than most.

  654. NYCmike says:

    https://twitter.com/MiamiHerald/status/1260739555797409793

    -There is nothing quite like being publicly employed when it comes to job accountability.

  655. NYCmike says:

    Paul – it is you who have called for it, not I.

    Thankfully, Trump doesn’t employ people who think like you.

  656. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2020/05/13/obamas-n390379

    -The Archives may be of use in the coming weeks…….or maybe Robbie can apologize to Tina for making fun of her supposedly crazy comments about the amount of spying, and who was involved…..

  657. Tina says:

    Burr steps aside from “chairing” the SSIC, the most corrupt committee.

  658. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Twitter has indicated its employees can work permanently from home. Many are now talking about leaving the Bay Area. If this became a trend among tech workers, California will take a huge financial hit:

    “Joseph Flaherty, a director at the VC firm Founder Collective, told BuzzFeed News he could see tech workers leaving the Bay Area for more affordable cities if they no longer have to be physically in their offices.
    “The average call center manager in Houston, probably has a higher material quality of life than does a director-level executive in Boston or certainly in San Francisco,” Flaherty said. “If there’s an arbitrage opportunity, at least for a while, where you could get the San Francisco salary and live in Nashville or Minneapolis, or any of these cities that have a cool cultural vibe, but extraordinarily affordable housing — it doesn’t strike me as implausible.”

    * * *

    After Twitter’s news, people on Hacker News, a forum popular among tech workers, spoke about their desire to leave the Bay Area. “If I could keep my current compensation and move to the low cost of living area where my family is located, I would reach financial independence 10-15 years ahead of my current trajectory with Bay Area rents/costs,” one said. “I’ll settle for the minor inconveniences of WFH any day in order to get a decade of my life to spend with family or to work on my own projects.””

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alexkantrowitz/coronavirus-san-francisco-twitter-techies-leaving

  659. Tina says:

    The SSIC went AWOL during the Russian Hoax.

  660. Country Dick Montana says:

    This is for Phil

    https://triblive.com/news/pennsylvania/pennsylvania-coronavirus-death-toll-tops-4000-as-state-adds-275/

    Although worldometers already has logged some of these.

  661. Victrc says:

    Ruh Roh. – seems our favorite Ukrainian ambassador actually met with Burisma…despite testifying she knew nothing about them.

    One wonders just how deep this entire scandal goes.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/state-dept-emails-yovanovitch-met-with-burisma-despite-testifying

  662. NYCmike says:

    https://www.pennlive.com/news/2020/05/reporter-calls-pa-health-secretary-sir-multiple-times-in-phone-interview.html

    -Pennsylyvania, where the health secretary is more worried about being “misgendered” than he/she/they is about nursing home fatalities.

  663. NYCmike says:

    YYYOOOOO!

  664. NYCmike says:

    DCC

  665. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    689. Lets also not forget the Orlando nightclub massacre, where the police remained outside for several hours while the shooter continued to kill people inside.

    It is the reason the Second Amendment is one of the most important provisions of the U.S. Constitution.

  666. Phil says:

    Burr steps down as chair of the intel committee?

    LOL

    With Burr, Warner was chairman.

    Couldn’t give one about Burr.

    He’s been worthless over the past three years. Totally worthless.

  667. Country Dick Montana says:

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/michigan-barber-defying-gov-whitmers-coronavirus-shutdown-has-license-stripped

    It is smaller acts than these on which true resistance is built.

    Not a good optic taking away a 77 year old’s license. He should just continue working, who in his area is going to enforce it? Licensing for barbers, beauticians, manacurists and that type of thing is all about limiting the competition anyway.

  668. jason says:

    Phil is in cahoots with Wolf, where is the outrage?

    Actual deaths in PA today: 44.

  669. jason says:

    Chinajason?

    Bitter, gimme the points.

    And Ma, we reeled in a big Michigan fish, although I was disappointed, only the really dumbass went for it. I thought I would catch at least something from NY.

  670. NYCmike says:

    #705 – I was working in the garden this morning, and still had my boots on…..so I was prepared for you.

  671. NYCmike says:

    https://ewerickson.substack.com/p/where-does-brian-kemp-go-for-an-apology

    -The last 2 paragraphs just about sums up how biased the media is:

    “I talked to someone in the know yesterday after the IHME modeling revised downward. I was told that after the last IHME model revisions, which occurred after Kemp’s reopening and revised upwards the number of people projected to die, both the Governor and his team were flooded with media inquires to demand an accounting for all the blood on Brian Kemp’s hands.

    When the IHME model revised downward yesterday, washing all the metaphorical blood off Brian Kemp’s hands, no reporters called.”

    I know the media will simply extend the time for the “spike” to occur…..and if it never does, they will just move on to a different story.

    Robbie, I appreciate you NOT LETTING THE MEDIA GET AWAY WITH THAT APPROACH ANYMORE!

  672. NYCmike says:

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/richard-burr-steps-down-as-senate-intelligence-chairman-amid-insider-trading-investigation

    -Has jason started to lobby to place Senator Burr on Mt. Rushmore yet, along with fellow “heroes” Corker and Fauci?

  673. Hugh says:

    Only Warner will mourn burr stepping down. Except for Romney any republican will be far better. I hope burr rots in jail. No one can time stock sales that well.

  674. jason says:

    #705 – I was working in the garden this morning, and still had my boots on…..so I was prepared for you.”

    Too bad, that was good bait.

    Sorry it got wasted on small fry.

  675. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    @BrianKempGA
    Encouraging data as we battle COVID-19 in GA:
    ? Lowest # of COVID-19 patients hospitalized (1,203)
    ? Lowest # of ventilators in use (897)
    ? 110k tested in the last 11 days w/ testing available for all Georgians
    ? Declining percentage of Georgians testing positive (14%)

  676. jason says:

    Has jason started to lobby to place Senator Burr on Mt. Rushmore yet, along with fellow “heroes” Corker and Fauci?”

    Nah.

    I have nothing against Burr, he is certainly “conservative” enough for me, if that was the standard I would get rid of fake conservative Rand Paul before I got rid of Burr, and I think the “insider trading” charge is most likely a crock of crap.

    But he is hardly a favorite of mine either, he let Warner eat his lunch for the most part. I was against his retirement because I was afraid it would put a safe seat at risk, but now I am glad he is not running because the trading allegations, real or not, would probably be fatal.

    Contrary to Hugh, I wish him well and hope he is cleared.

  677. NYCmike says:

    “? Lowest # of COVID-19 patients hospitalized (1,203)
    ? Lowest # of ventilators in use (897)”

    -75% of patients hospitalized are on ventilator??

    YIKES!

  678. Tina says:

    It was not just Barr. They also reached out to Frankenstein and Loeffler.

    Loefflers excuse seems the weakest.

  679. Chicon says:

    Xi Jasonping is really not all in for China – he wants them confronted, as long as his Nikes stay the same price.

  680. NYCmike says:

    “I have nothing against Burr, he is certainly “conservative” enough for me, if that was the standard I would get rid of fake conservative Rand Paul before I got rid of Burr, and I think the “insider trading” charge is most likely a crock of crap.”

    -I never saw anyone say anything about how “conservative” he is…..and what Burr has to do with Senator Paul only jason’s mind can make that connection.

  681. NYCmike says:

    “But he is hardly a favorite of mine either, he let Warner eat his lunch for the most part.”

    -Exactly!

    This is why Tina has railed against Burr for 3 years, why I agreed, as did many others, with Tina, and finally we see that jason agrees as well.

    There was no need whatsoever for the previous paragraph jason wrote, except for him to cover up his cowardice in not agreeing with Tina years ago.

  682. Tina says:

    Criminal

    John Solomon
    @jsolomonReports
    · 5h
    Pennsylvania made nursing homes accept COVID patients, but health secretary’s mom was moved to hotel | Just The News https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/pa-forced-nursing-homes-take-covid-patients-health-secretarys-mother

  683. Phil says:

    Burr voted fine. He let Warner call the shots on committee’s looking into the Russian hoax for over three years.

    No excuse for that.

    Screw him.

  684. jason says:

    Xi Jasonping?

    I like it. Chinajason is kinda mundane.

  685. jason says:

    except for him to cover up his cowardice in not agreeing with Tina years ago.”

    Zzzzzz… I disagree with Tina on lots of st-ff.

    The Mueller investigation/Russia collusion hoax was not one of them.

    GFY.

  686. jason says:

    never saw anyone say anything about how “conservative” he is”

    Good to know you think he is a conservative,

    You are right.

  687. jason says:

    and what Burr has to do with Senator Paul only jason’s mind can make that connection.”

    YOU made the suggestion I want him on Mt. Rushmore.

    I don’t.

    The Rand Paul comment was to illustrate Burr is not my favorite senator, but not my least favorite either.

    That would be “a nuclear Iran is not a threat” Rand Paul.

  688. NYCmike says:

    “Good to know you think he is a conservative,”

    -1 of many in North Carolina.

    Let’s elect one who won’t carry water for the Democrats, Warner, and the media.

  689. NYCmike says:

    Did Senator Paul support the Iran Deal?

  690. Tina says:

    There are massive crowds outside of Allentown, pa for trumps speech at a medical supply company,

  691. Tina says:

    This is a cool video of Air Force One, Allentown:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/PBS39Channel/status/1260998732545392641

  692. Robbi says:

    I may have already written this, but it’s worth repeating. Social distancing, specifically the 6ft rule, is the single most destructive thing society has ever done to itself. It has made people suspicious and fearful of those they don’t know. We are committing societal, cultural, and economic suicide.

    The longer this goes on, the more broken society will be when this terrible era is over. Not only will we emerge financially broken, but we’ll emerge psychologically broken. The complete lack of focus on the mental health aspects of this crisis by the press and political leaders is a far bigger crime than the number of tests available or any other stupid statistic the press decides to tout on a given day.

    Already, I fear a potential vaccine will have minimal effect on how society operates once it is found. We are engraining destructive habits in the minds of the average person. We are teaching people the only way to remain safe is to remain huddled and isolated form others. Eventually, society will recover, but in how many years? Four or five? A decade?

    Trump should make this a prime talking point going forward.

  693. Robbie says:

    730 is a post by me. I’m not sure why my name got cut off.

  694. NYCmike says:

    Robbie,

    Have faith.

    Once the immoral Trump is removed from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, ALL will be well!

  695. mRviTO says:

    The 6ft rule is the single most destructive thing society has ever done to itself.

    neat.

    The five-second rule must be a close second.

  696. jason says:

    Robbi says:
    May 14, 2020 at 3:29 pm”

    We have had Wobbie, Wobbles, Wobble, Robbie, etc but this is the first Robbi.

  697. jason says:

    730 is a post by me”

    I write all of my own posts too.

  698. Phil says:

    When we were told at the end of March that we needed to all shutter up to “flatten the curve”… How many thought we would be more than a month?

    Well, boys and girls it’s now been over six weeks with no end in site in the blue states….And the curve has been flattened. Hospitals are fine with plenty of bed space and health workers furloughed due to all the prohibitions on elective and diognostic procedures. Mission accomplished.

    Ok, so Apparently the new goal is shut down until there aren’t any cases. How convenient. Millions more continue to be layed off and the economy crumbles. What happens if there finally aren’t any new cases? I guarantee the new moving goal post will be keep it shut down because “it might come back.’’

    See how this works?

  699. Tina says:

    Wisconsin bars flooded after governor loses Court case

    https://fxn.ws/2WSDo8g

  700. Wes says:

    NYCmike says:
    May 14, 2020 at 2:52 pm
    “Good to know you think he is a conservative,”

    -1 of many in North Carolina.

    Let’s elect one who won’t carry water for the Democrats, Warner, and the media.

    So unlike Schumer, Gillibrand, Hassan, Manchin, Masto, Jones, and Rosen.

    Too bad you were eager to see those particular Senators in office, Mikey.

  701. jason says:

    With Burr temporarily stepping aside as chairman, it is not immediately clear who will take over to helm the intelligence panel.

    Sen. James Risch of Idaho is the next in line, but South Dakota Sen. John Thune told CNN that Risch is likely to stay on as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. Others who could get the nod are Sens. Marco Rubio of Florida or Sen. Susan Collins of Maine.”

    Give it to Collins. I prefer Rubio but it will be fun to see the RINO hunters meltdown.

    Oh wait, Rubio is a RINO too….

  702. Chicon says:

    Wait, a NC politician tied up in corruption? What the….. I thought that was limited to Jersey, and Illinois of course.

  703. Wes says:

    Oh, no!

    Burr traded stocks a month after receiving information!

    That’s right up there with raping underage sex slaves in the Dominican.

  704. jason says:

    Too bad you were eager to see those particular Senators in office, Mikey.”

    I am sure he eager for Burr to resign to we can send a message and get a liberal Dem instead.

  705. jason says:

    Burr traded stocks a month after receiving information!”

    It was top secret information too. Only about 200 million people were aware of it. The rest don’t watch TV, use the Internet, or read newspapers.

  706. Robbie says:

    jason says:
    May 14, 2020 at 3:49 pm
    730 is a post by me”
    I write all of my own posts too.

    – When I wrote in my name, the e didn’t register and I hit post before I realized it.

  707. Wes says:

    NC state law has you covered, Jason:

    If Burr resigns Cooper has to appoint a Republican.

  708. NYCmike says:

    “Of course Chicon was curiously silent on this:”

    -Wes,

    You haven’t denounced slavery today.

    Hmmmm, “curiously silent”?

  709. Wes says:

    Going by that logic, I guess you must be a staunch advocate of slavery, Mikey, since you haven’t denounced it lately either.

    You not only refused to condemn but actually DEFENDED Dick the Misogynist Bastard Mourdock’s abominable statement declaring God intends pregnancy by rape, so I guess you must be a rape advocate.

    Oh, by the way, Menendez was a major topic on here once his sleazy dealings came to light. All of a sudden, Chicon comes on here to highlight what Burr did despite not crowing about Menendez’ corruption.

    As I noted, one can but wonder why.

  710. Wes says:

    Opening fire when your opponent is not only ready but willing to fire back isn’t exactly the smartest move, Mikey.

    You were too stupid to realize that though.

  711. Phil says:

    Just looking over the numbers just now and it’s not looking good for you, Jason. We will easily be back up to 25000 today in total cases (Illinois is on a roll courtesy of Gov Dick. He’s becoming blue state MVP) Of course our bet involves daily deaths and we break 1800 today rather easily. The trend for tomorrow is not your friend.

    How are you coming on that written recommendation and when do you plan to forward it to the membership committee? No hurry. I want you to draft a masterpiece.

  712. Wes says:

    New Jersey is in the middle of an election fraud fiasco right this moment.

    Chicon and Mikey say nothing.

    Richard Burr steps down from a chairmanship because of an investigation into stocks he sold.

    Chicon and Mikey can’t rush to HHR fast enough to extol it.

    Hm.

  713. Tina says:

    The Dow stages 835-point U-turn, leading to the sharpest reversal from an intraday slump in 2 months

  714. NYCmike says:

    Looks like Wes was triggered!

    Keep rambling.

  715. Tina says:

    Gowdy says trump family was unmasked on Inauguration Day. The faux news reporter does not follow up.

    https://youtu.be/pcB5-i1nE3U

  716. NYCmike says:

    Of course, that would necessitate getting good information so that those who are most susceptible to the virus will know it, and take precautions.

    With all of the information given out by Cuomo, there have not been breakdowns in regard to the underlying factors of those who died from the Wuhan.

  717. Wes says:

    Just using your own argument against you, Mikey. I know how upset you were when Greg Brannon failed to create a successful Mikey Maneuver against Tillis in 2014 and Burr in 2016.

    Now you get to feel upbeat because Burr is under investigation.

  718. jason says:

    Well, yeah, but there are Republicans like Michael Steele.

    “Grown ass black man”

    As Biden would say, come’on man…

    “I’m sure Mitch is aware that a grown ass black man who happens to be a former president has agency to speak his mind on how his successor is managing this crisis,” Steele said Tuesday on Twitter. “Especially since his successor has yet to ‘keep his mouth shut’ about him.”

  719. Robbie says:

    Looks like fat boy Pritzker has taken the baton from Cuomo to provide a high case load. More than 3000 new ones today. They’re gaming the system and the Republican Party ought to start forcefully calling it out.

  720. Phil says:

    Michael Steele can kiss my ass.

    Is he writing for the Bulwark these days?

  721. NYCmike says:

    “Now you get to feel upbeat because Burr is under investigation.”

    -Wes,

    I am NOT upbeat about Burr being under investigation for insider trading.

    I am upbeat about him stepping down as the head of that committee.

    I would expect that a “man” like you, so credentialed and licensed as you are, could understand the difference.

    Judging by your other comments, I may be giving too much weight to your self-proclaimed intelligence.

  722. Phil says:

    As I said earlier, the Illinois Dick has become the blue governor MVP.

  723. NYCmike says:

    “I know how upset you were when Greg Brannon failed to create a successful Mikey Maneuver against Tillis in 2014 and Burr in 2016.”

    -You do? Seriously?

    Show one comment to back these statements up, about “how upset” I was.

    I’ll wait.

  724. Waingro says:

    “NC state law has you covered, Jason:

    If Burr resigns Cooper has to appoint a Republican.”

    But a special election has to occur if he resigns outside of 60 days withing the next election.

    I hope Burr simply goes into hiding and waits until he is within the 60th day before resigning.

    We can’t afford what could be a very vulnerable seat to be the Dems for the taking this cycle, particularly with Tillis also up. Let’s put off until 2022, please.

  725. jason says:

    Just looking over the numbers just now and it’s not looking good for you, Jason. We will easily be back up to 25000 today in total cases (Illinois is on a roll courtesy of Gov Dick. He’s becoming blue state MVP) Of course our bet involves daily deaths and we break 1800 today rather easily. The trend for tomorrow is not your friend.”

    Nice pep talk, but there hasn’t been an 1800 day since May 7th.

    If MA comes in big, there is a chance it could just get there.

    But PA shot its wad today, so unless some other state makes up some numbers, you are going to be toast tomorrow.

    You were lucky the 15th didn’t come in on a Sat or Sun, we will probably be under 1000 on one or the other.

  726. jason says:

    “Let’s put off until 2022, please.”

    What?

    And waste an opportunity for a Mikey Maneuver that will SEND A MESSAGE?

  727. Hugh says:

    I hope Rubio gets it. Susan Collins would have to bow to the dems in order to get re-elected. I like Susan Collins. She’s as good as we would get from that state. Rubio is safer than safe and in my view would be perfect for that job.

  728. Robbie says:

    Phil says:
    May 14, 2020 at 5:04 pm
    As I said earlier, the Illinois Dick has become the blue governor MVP.

    – And waiting in the anchor position when Pritzker can do no more is Gavin Newsom. With the population California has, he can name the daily number.

  729. Tina says:

    Good move here, get it out of the bureaucracy.

    Chanel Rion OAN
    @ChanelRion
    · 7m
    #OperationWarpSpeed’s Mission:

    1. Accelerate Covid-19 Vaccine Development (led by Dr. Slaoui)

    2. Distribution; ensure smooth, swift distribution after vaccine identified (led by General Perna)

    – 14 vaccines currently being watched

    @jennfranconews @OANN

  730. jason says:

    NYCmike says:
    May 14, 2020 at 2:55 pm

    Did Senator Paul support the Iran Deal?”

    He certainly opposes pulling out of it. And he certainly opposes any tough stance against Iran.
    Remember, he doesn’t think a nuclear Iran is a threat.

    “Washington (CNN)Republican Sen. Rand Paul is criticizing President Donald Trump’s actions toward Iran, saying his decision to withdraw from the Iran nuclear agreement and last week’s drone strike that killed the country’s top military general have made the US less safe.”

    Plus, he called killing the Iranian terrorist “an act of war”.

    But I am sure you will find some way to give him a pass no matter how stupid he is, you always do.

  731. jason says:

    NYC to say he supported pulling out of the Iran deal until Rand Paul opposed it 3,2,1….

  732. jason says:

    Rubio is safer than safe and in my view would be perfect for that job.”

    I don’t know.

    NYC considered him a RINO traitor for shaking Schumer’s hand, might not pass the litmus test for the position.

  733. Tina says:

    Wow judge obama Sullivan created a mess

    Former Judge Gleeson, tapped by Judge Sullivan to help the court go after Flynn, in a previous case said denial of move to dismiss charges would be “abuse of discretion.”
    https://justice.gov/sites/default/files/usao-edny/legacy/2015/04/06/HSBC%20Memorandum%20and%20Order%207.1.13.pdf

  734. jason says:

    1400 deaths so far today (not really, most of the PA deaths are from up to 2 weeks ago) but whatever, NY, NJ, MI, PA, CA and IL account for about 800.

  735. NYCmike says:

    Ok, I’ll answer for jason, and then go further than he is ever capable of when discussing any of his “heroes”:

    “Did Senator Paul support the Iran Deal?” – Originally, he did not support the Iran Deal put forth by Obama.

    Did he support Trump withdrawing from the Iran Deal? NO, he did not. I disagree with him.

    “Plus, he called killing the Iranian terrorist “an act of war”.” – I believe he did say this.

    Technically, if a war had broken out after that happened, he may have been correct that it was “an act of war”.

    Would I still have supported President Trump’s decision to kill Salami in Iraq? DEFINITELY.

    I don’t always agree with Senator Paul. I do not believe he has that position for life, no matter how he votes in the Senate. I do believe he is better than any Democrat (like Burr is, and Tillis), and until further notice, I see no reason to replace him in Kentucky.

  736. NYCmike says:

    “Rubio is safer than safe and in my view would be perfect for that job.””

    -I would prefer Senator Cotton to Rubio, but will gladly have Rubio take over, and then proceed to watch either of their actions while the leader.

    Isn’t that usually how things work? Trust, but verify?

  737. NYCmike says:

    Baseball season must be starting soon, because it feels like every pitch jason throws is a meatball!

  738. Country Dick Montana says:

    Last Thursday had over 29000 new cases. They are going to have to work hard to get that today, so the rolling 7 day will continue down.

    Likewise with deaths. Last Thursday was 2126. Unless someone dumps something out of the blue, 7 day averag will go down by a lot

  739. Country Dick Montana says:

    Of course in Dem states the dead can vote. Does that mean that they can die again?

  740. Chicon says:

    Wes is triggered because he blames voters in other states when their politicians break the law; but doesn’t like it when its someone he voted for.

  741. NYCmike says:

    “Does that mean that they can die again?”

    -If they can die twice, can they vote twice?

    Country Dick, DON’T GIVE THEM ANY IDEAS!!

  742. Tina says:

    China Biden malfunctions

    Millions of lives lost and 85,000 jobs lost.

    https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1261050311671767047

  743. Country Dick Montana says:

    Last 2 days have gotten spam texts from an area code 855 toll free number with derogatory statement about Biden and a “link” to some kind of Sleepyjoe website. Be careful with that one as I think it is phishing.

  744. mRviTO says:

    News12NJ
    @News12NJ
    · 5h
    #BREAKING: Gov. Phil Murphy says the #JerseyShore will be open in time for Memorial Day Weekend, with social distancing guidelines in place

  745. nnkrasoyye says:

    Thank you so much
    _________________
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  746. mRviTO says:

    Paul Kane
    @pkcapitol
    ·
    6h
    Risch is next in line to chair Intel, but would likely stay on as chair at Foreign Relations.
    This will enable Rubio to become Intel chair.
    Burr was term limited out at Intel at end of year and smart insiders expected Rubio to take Intel in January anyway.

  747. Wes says:

    Well, let’s compare states, my friend from the Land of Capone:

    https://www.illinoispolicy.org/reports/2019-illinois-corruption-tracker/

    Meanwhile my Senator sold stocks a month after getting information readily available to the American public.

    I’ll take that comparison any day.

  748. Wes says:

    Just remember, though, Richard Burr is evil for trading stocks a month after viewing publicly available information.

  749. NYCmike says:

    #792 – Heh!

    Dead horse, meet Wes.

    Wes will disturb you for the next 12 years, at least. So buy lots of hay.

  750. Chicon says:

    Yep, Wes is triggered. Squirms when caught in hypocrisy.

  751. mRviTO says:

    Unicef warns lockdown could kill more than Covid-19 as model predicts 1.2 million child deaths

    ‘Indiscriminate lockdowns’ are an ineffective way to control Covid and could contribute to a 45 per cent rise in child mortality

    ………………….

    “According to a stark report published in Lancet Global Health journal on Wednesday, almost 1.2 million children could die in the next six months due to the disruption to health services and food supplies caused by the coronavirus pandemic.”

    “Dr Peterson warned that these trends have resulted in a reduction in the “effective utilisation of services” – a shift which, in some places, could be more dangerous than the virus itself. And lockdowns have a heavy economic toll, which could trigger a rise in poverty and malnutrition.”

  752. Charlesmek says:

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  753. jason says:

    Rand Paul is a disgrace, saying that a nuclear weapon Iran is not a threat is so stupid it should disqualify him from the Senate forever. But of course saying we brought 9/11 on ourselves because of Ron Paul’s disgusting “blowback theory” was even worse.

    And I don’t agree that he is “better than any Democrat” considering he is not a Republican and not a conservative.

  754. jason says:

    Benchmark for today:

    Cases May 7 29531
    Deaths May 7 2129

  755. NYCmike says:

    Yooooo!

  756. NYCmike says:

    DCCC

  757. jason says:

    Not very aggressive but let’s see…

    “Our first phase will deal with the government’s decision to dismiss the Flynn case as well as an in-depth analysis of the unmasking requests made by Obama Administration officials against General Flynn. We must determine if these requests were legitimate,” Graham released in a statement. “Our next area of inquiry, later this summer, will be oversight building upon the Horowitz report about FISA abuses against Carter Page. My goal is to find out why and how the system got so off the rails.”

    “Finally, we will look at whether Robert Mueller should have ever been appointed as Special Counsel. Was there legitimate reason to conclude the Trump campaign had colluded with the Russians?” he continued.

  758. Tina says:

    Vincent Lee
    @Rover829
    ·
    2m
    Reuters: TSMC SAYS IT ANNOUNCES INTENTION TO BUILD AND OPERATE AN ADVANCED SEMICONDUCTOR FAB IN THE U.S.; FACILITY WILL BE BUILT IN ARIZONA, AND WILL UTILIZE ITS 5-NANOMETER TECHNOLOGY FORSEMICONDUCTOR WAFER FABRICATION

  759. Country Dick Montana says:

    Barring a late change looks like 1703 new deaths vs. 2126ast Thursday, a 20% decrease.

    Rolling 7 Day Average Deaths

    4/23 – 2178 Peak

    4/30 – 1946

    5/01 – 1938
    5/02 – 1884
    5/03 – 1884
    5/04 – 1875
    5/05 – 1858
    5/06 – 1878
    5/07 – 1867
    5/08 – 1837
    5/09 – 1799
    5/10 – 1741
    5/11 – 1696
    5/12 – 1593
    5/13 – 1485
    5/14 – 1425

  760. Country Dick Montana says:

    Last 6 Thursdays

    4/9 – 1903
    4/16 – 2174
    4/23 – 2342
    4/30 – 2200
    5/7 – 2126
    5/14 – 1704

  761. jason says:

    Melania beats out Donald.

    “LJUBLJANA (Reuters) – The Slovenian government late on Thursday called an official end to its coronavirus epidemic, becoming the first European country to do so, after authorities confirmed less than seven new coronavirus cases each day for the past two weeks.

    People now arriving in Slovenia from other European Union states will no longer be obliged to go into a quarantine for at least seven days as was the case from early April, the government said in a statement.

    The country of 2 million people, which borders Italy, Austria, Hungary and Croatia, has so far reported 1,464 coronavirus cases and 103 deaths. It declared an epidemic on March 12.”

  762. Country Dick Montana says:

    Rolling 7 Day Average Cases

    5/01 – 29427
    5/02 – 28585
    5/03 – 28709
    5/04 – 28926
    5/05 – 28838
    5/06 – 28414
    5/07 – 28215
    5/08 – 27515
    5/09 – 26652
    5/10 – 25645
    5/11 – 24714
    5/12 – 24429
    5/13 – 23894
    5/14 – 23472

  763. jason says:

    Cases May 7 29531 May 14 26461
    Deaths May 7 2129 May 14 1704

  764. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    Now California faces the fiscal reality of the indefinite lockdown:

    “California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Thursday proposed cutting $6.1 billion from the state’s budget to alleviate the financial hit from coronavirus pandemic.

    The governor’s budget through next year forecasts unemployment to climb to nearly 25 percent and for overall tax revenues to drop by about a quarter. It also calls for a 10 percent pay cut for all state workers.”

  765. Tina says:

    “Um, and uh, and I’m not, and I, I have a, I have a uh, like all of you but every day I get between an hour & an hour & a half brief with um, uh, the former head of, our former surgeon general, anyway, with docs across the country”

    Biden

  766. jason says:

    I am going to have another martini and then reread that to see if it makes more sense.

  767. jason says:

    States with 15 deaths or less today: 29
    States with 5 or fewer deaths today: 16

  768. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    811. That sounds like a good beginning to a legal pleading – no more of this “Comes now the plaintiff” legalese nonsense.

    Lets go with: “The plaintiff um, and uh, and I’m not, and I, I have a, I have a uh.”

  769. Phil says:

    What’s the IHME model forecast for tomorrow?

  770. Phil says:

    Never mind – its 1703.

    Jason, you could come in just under the wire. On the other hand, just one Cuomo dump from hitting the over.

    Dangerous. Cuomo has been quiet of late. He’s due. A 400 or 500 “back log” dump is Very possible.

    He’s done it before.

    Be very nervous, Jason.

  771. Phil says:

    China reports zero deaths for the 16th consecutive day.

    If only the Chinese were doing the counting tomorrow, Jason…..

  772. jason says:

    What is the problem, these guys are bored and have to do something.

    “The New York Giants’ Deandre Baker and Seattle Seahawks’ Quinton Dunbar are each facing four counts of armed robbery with a firearm, while Baker is facing an additional four counts of aggravated assault with a firearm, after the two allegedly robbed guests at a party in Miramar, Florida, the Miramar police department said on Thursday”

  773. Tina says:

    Geoffrey Ingersoll
    @GPIngersoll
    Oh nothing much, just Joe Biden trying to converse with a pre-recorded question

    https://twitter.com/GPIngersoll/status/1261130477160800260

  774. lisab says:

    It also calls for a 10 percent pay cut for all state workers.”
    ———————

    that is not happening!!!!

  775. Wes says:

    These are Mikey’s kind of Republicans:

    They’re spending money to try to help Democrats win the Senate so Schumer can become Majority Leader.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MadelainePisani/status/1260965992613756932

  776. PresidentPaul! says:

    https://youtu.be/9OXbfo3Mbx0?t=76

    New mask for going to wallmart

  777. jason says:

    Phil will do anything to try to win a bet. He is enlisting allies everywhere.

    “This week, San Diego County Supervisor Jim Desmond announced that, having looked deeply into the issue, he believes only 6 of SDC’s 194 reported coronavirus deaths were actually caused by the virus.”

    What an aspiring A-hole!

  778. jason says:

    Dangerous. Cuomo has been quiet of late. He’s due. A 400 or 500 “back log” dump is Very possible.

    He’s done it before.

    Be very nervous, Jason.”

    How many tacos are you offering him, aspiring A-hole?

  779. jason says:

    The fact the reopen rally at the Capitol will be held today is mere coincidence.

    “HARRISBURG, Pa. (KDKA) — Pennsylvania Governor Tom Wolf will announce Friday that additional counties will be moving to the ‘yellow’ phase of his reopening plan amid the Coronavirus pandemic.”

    Zero deaths in Allegheny Co yesterday, btw.

  780. MichiganGuy says:

    China threatening U.S. politicians.
    .
    “We must resolutely hit back at those politicians who, for no reason, undermine China-US ties for their own political benefits. For those who promote anti-China legislation, we need to find out what the business ties are between those officials or their families with China,” one research fellow at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences told the paper. “We can’t just strike back symbolically, but should impose countermeasures that could make them feel the pain.”
    .
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/leahbarkoukis/2020/05/15/china-threatens-gop-lawmakers-crenshaw-says-bring-it-n2568863
    .
    chinajason responds- I agree with China! I will never vote for any politician who attacks the CCP.

  781. jason says:

    If York doesn’t reopen I will ignore the governor’s orders and start selling “SEE THE LLAMA” tickets again.

    Albeit I admit business was slow even before the pandemic when it got around that Lupita was spitting on the kiddies.

  782. jason says:

    chinajason responds- I agree with China!”

    Zzzzzzz…

    Is that your reason # 28753 on why you are an AFL-CIO “conservative”?

  783. jason says:

    “one research fellow at the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences told the paper.”

    Horrors…this is SOOOO significant.

    It could be worse though. It could be two research fellows”.

  784. Phil says:

    Georgia came in at only 4 deaths today after 27 yesterday. Gonna need a nice number from Wolf today to make that up. He’s clutch in these situations. Definitely deserves a third term from bitter’s fellow Pa voters.

    The blackface governor also came up a little short in Virginia.

    Gonna need the Illinois dick to come through like he has all week.

    Cuomo is going to come through big time I just know it. Stuffing all those infected seniors back in those nursing homes has got to be paying dividends soon.

    Finally there is Newsome. He’s had solid numbers out of LA this week, half of which I’m hearing ACTUALLY DID die of the virus.

    Look for the half wit out of Michigan to actually put me over the top, Jason. She’s poised to deliver around 250. Half made up out of thin air but, hey, Orange Man has got to go, right?

    You are looking at about 2150 when the dust clears by 8 tonight, Jason. I’m betting big on Cuomo today.

  785. MichiganGuy says:

    “Is that your reason # 28753 on why you are an AFL-CIO “conservative”?
    .
    My political ideology align with most Republicans yours don’t that is why I’m still a Republican and you are an Independent or have you gone full Never Trump and joined the Democrats?

  786. jason says:

    We have to cut off trade with Australia too. I hear there is a homeless person on the streets of Sidney with a sign that says “F-ck America”.

    This cannot be tolerated, I hope Crenshaw is on this outrage too.

    But you are right. Although I will vote for Trump despite his isolationist and protectionist policies, since I am no longer a Republican I don’t feel compelled to vote for candidates that don’t support free trade.

    Fortunately we have a strong supporter of free trade in Senator Toomey. He voted against the “new NAFTA”, which was basically the old NAFTA but
    with more AFL-CIO protectionist garbage thrown in.

    “President Trump and House Democrats managed to bridge their differences on a new trade deal with Mexico and Canada, but Republican U.S. Sen. Pat Toomey said he’ll vote against the deal.

    Even though many Republicans have embraced the deal, Toomey, R-Pa., said the new agreement is going to hurt free trade.

    In an interview with CNBC Wednesday, Toomey said, “They’ve passed an agreement that’s meant to restrict trade.”

    “We shouldn’t be going backwards on trade,” Toomey said. “We should go forward.”

    The 25-year-old NAFTA eliminated many tariffs, while the new agreement includes tariffs on manufactured goods. Toomey contends that’s a mistake. Under NAFTA, Pennsylvania exports to Mexico have surged by more than 500 percent, he said.”

  787. Wes says:

    MichiganGuy says:
    May 15, 2020 at 9:48 am
    “Is that your reason # 28753 on why you are an AFL-CIO “conservative”?
    .
    My political ideology align with most Republicans yours don’t that is why I’m still a Republican and you are an Independent or have you gone full Never Trump and joined the Democrats?

    Is that why you backed a pedophile who lost to a Schumer clone in Alabama, Elmer?

  788. Phil says:

    Navajo nation came up 8 short of yesterday. Damn Indians. They’re going to blow any chance of a casino when Biden enters the WH if they don’t step it up.

    I’ll be back around lunch to assess the mid day numbers. RINO Hogan ought to have some hefty numbers in by then.

  789. Tina says:

    So, China Biden is blaming a journalist on the Flynn unmasking.

    While, Biden personally unmasked Flynn for political purposes.

  790. jason says:

    My political ideology align with most Republicans”

    That is correct, it is why I left the party.

    As I often say, Trump is a symptom of the “new” Republican Party, not the cause.

    I fully understand that most Republicans now align with the failed AFL-CIO agenda of the last 70 years.

  791. jason says:

    Damn Indians”

    Like a true aspiring A-hole, Phil already has a scapegoat in case he doesn’t win the bet.

  792. jason says:

    I have to get ready to go to the rally.

    Any messages for Wolf?

  793. Phil says:

    Yeah, tell him he can count on the brilliant Pennsylvania voters to give him a third term. He’s doing a heck of a job.

  794. jason says:

    and you are an Independent or have you gone full Never Trump and joined the Democrats?”

    Zzzzzzz… that dog won’t hunt.

    Nobody is more critical of the Never Trumpers here than I am.

    GFY.

  795. jason says:

    Yeah, tell him he can count on the brilliant Pennsylvania voters to give him a third term.”

    Wow, Phil is trying to get me killed at the rally so he won’t have to pay up?

    Definitely A-hole material.

  796. jason says:

    Sorry Phil, Hogan is -12.

    But not let your heart be troubled, we still have Wolf, Dimwhit, Cuomo, Murphy, Newsome…

  797. MichiganGuy says:

    Little wesley trying to have a conversation with the grownups. LOL Wesley, where is your proof that he is a pedophile? Oh you don’t have any just the hit job that the WP did on him? Let’s see he has been married for the last 35 years without any accusations of him sexually harassing anyone. You probably believe Judge Kavanaugh is a rapist too. Coming from someone who preys on vulnerable girls like you do that is rich.

  798. Tina says:

    Lol

    Walter Shapiro
    @MrWalterShapiro
    · 57m
    Kudos to @jmartNYT for pointing that Biden’s chances in November do not pivot on putting out compelling social media content from his basement in May. And that many Democrats are over-reacting and shell-shocked from 2016. twitter.com/katieglueck/st…

  799. Tina says:

    Nuissance has opened things up.

    But the stupid counties have halted him.

    For example, Santa Clara county won’t move until there is a vaccine.

  800. Tina says:

    Spoke to an undertaker. In Napa county, there is not much going with covid 19.

    The individuals picked up 15 bodies in the past month due to suicide, which is higher than normal.

    Trump warned about the suicides, drug use, etc.

    Media laughed

  801. Wes says:

    MichiganGuy says:
    May 15, 2020 at 10:12 am
    Little wesley trying to have a conversation with the grownups. LOL Wesley, where is your proof that he is a pedophile? Oh you don’t have any just the hit job that the WP did on him? Let’s see he has been married for the last 35 years without any accusations of him sexually harassing anyone. You probably believe Judge Kavanaugh is a rapist too. Coming from someone who preys on vulnerable girls like you do that is rich.

    Heh, Elmer. These allegations are a lot older than what WaPo reported. Luther Strange tried to put it out, but the media weren’t interested till Moore became the nominee.

    Of c

  802. Wes says:

    …ourse Moore was already in a dogfight before the allegations.

    As far as Kavanaugh, you really should have paid attention, Elmer. I always questioned the allegations against him and never believed his accusers.

    I’m glad the Senate confirmed him.

  803. MichiganGuy says:

    Exactly, little wesley. Very old allegations. And by the way you can check the archives most people in here was supporting Moore too.

  804. Tina says:

    Two rose garden events today.

    One Beat the press and 2 est

  805. Tina says:

    Joe Biden:

    “If they believe Tara Reade, they probably shouldn’t vote for me. I wouldn’t vote for me if I believed Tara Reade.”

    https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1261123464569765891

  806. Tina says:

    Jebots should listen to this as to why the unmasking of Flynn was wrong.

    https://twitter.com/ClaremontInst/status/1261299662511800322

  807. PresidentPaul! says:

    Hurray Chicago pensioners

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/fed-takes-next-step-toward-135413850.html

    (Bloomberg) — The Federal Reserve took another step toward launching an emergency lending program for state and local governments, publishing an online document on Friday for would-be borrowers.

  808. jason says:

    Ouch….as Instapundit puts it, harsh but fair…

    https://twitter.com/DynastyDriven/status/1261047711329107973

  809. Wes says:

    Consistency isn’t your thing, is it, Elmer Gantry?

    You mention the WaPo story but then admit the allegations predated that. In other words, they’d been around for awhile, but news outlets ignored them because Moore was never a nominee for Senator or Governor till 2017.

    Then it became convenient to reveal Moore’s sleazy past. He was already in trouble anyway because of his sanctimonious theocratic way of acting in previous offices. This just did him in.

    Well, thankfully, Elmer, Alabama Republicans weren’t willing to let Moore throw away the seat a second time and kept him away from the teens in March.

  810. jason says:

    And by the way you can check the archives most people in here was supporting Moore too.”

    Actually, no. Most everyone here, like Trump, supported Strange.

    Even Mr. Mikey Maneuver supported the Mo Brooks moron (yes, that did help Moore).

    My problem with Moore was actually not the 40 year old charges, I think I was fair to him on that.

    My problem with him is that he is a despicable ass who has no respect for the Constitution and was twice removed from the Alablama Supreme Court for failing to adhere to it.

  811. Tina says:

    This needs to be done ASAP

    CNBC: Get Ready For New Trump EO To Force Essential-Drug Production In US

    https://twitter.com/hotairblog/status/1261295787000111111

  812. dblaikie says:

    Well so far today, I don’t know if it is the final number, there has been 4, yes 4 fatalities in Georgia the state where the media and experts warned us three weeks ago that by now it be awash with Covid death. Anger at these continued strong arm lock downs is going to at some point boil over. The media can’t suppress the news forever.

  813. Wes says:

    If you go back to the archives, Jason, initially I disbelieved the allegations against Moore as a political hit job. Then they began piling up with consistency, and—unlike Kavanaugh a year later—Moore wasn’t entirely credible in his denials.

    That’s what sank him.

    He couldn’t take the fact that Jones beat him though and tried every means necessary to try to overturn the election. So much for Christian humility. Republicans were probably glad about his loss so they can nominate someone who won’t be a national embarrassment this year.

  814. Tina says:

    Joe Biden’s “new” ad:

    Don’t vote for me.

    https://twitter.com/MatthewFoldi/status/1261312041589051392

  815. MichiganGuy says:

    Chinajason and little wesley, like I said, check the archives.
    .
    jason says:
    November 12, 2017 at 11:49 am
    Moore should go because he has no respect for the rule of law.

    Nothing to do with these allegations which I am now convinced are just a political hit job.
    .
    NYCmike says:
    November 13, 2017 at 4:45 pm
    “– So are you still going to bat for Moore because of the liberal media?”

    -Is the accuser going to press charges?

    If the Governor has the power, let her delay election. That gives the accusers time to press charges, at the least. If the accuser is willing to go that far, that would make me re-think this media abuse.

    If the accuser is NOT going to press charges, then it is more b*llsh*t, in my humble opinion.*

    *Correct me if I am wrong, but didn’t Bubba get sued?
    .
    Redmen4ever says:
    November 13, 2017 at 5:01 pm
    Moore should demand that this accuser present her case to a District Attorney so he can defend his name. Just as she deserves to be taken seriously, he deserves due process.

    He can then say that it is unfair to the voters of Alabama that an election be held when such accusations haven’t been presented, when they should have, a long time ago, or at least earlier this year, and ask the Governor to postpone the election until a competent authority such as a grand jury can determine if there is probable cause, in which case he would withdraw and his party can name a replacement candidate.
    .
    BayernFan says:
    November 13, 2017 at 5:05 pm
    Refusing to seat a duly popularly elected Senator on the basis of allegations like these would not go over well. Moreover, it would set a horrible precedent.

    My hunch is that the Swamp is going to have to come up with something more recent (a lot more recent) than 19 frikkin 77.

    The guy may be a yahoo….. but this looks more and more like a ham handed hit job.

    If the people of the state of Alabama agree, the Senate would have to have a lot of gall refusing to seat him, especially with the crooks that are serving in there now. Unless they’re OK with facing a backlash and all that being pointed out. It would be a one-sided meme war.
    .
    I’m sure I could find many more but, I’m not going to waste my time.

  816. Wes says:

    None of that refutes anything we said, Elmer.

    You may have missed that tiny detail.

  817. dblaikie says:

    What is really going to make people boil over is if HCQ with zinc and the antibiotic I cannot spell is effective given early. Right now there is huge antidotal evidence that it is. If that is borne out in a test there will be thousands who lost loved ones that could have been saved due to the tragedy of making an established drug political. In addition there are many places where the Walgreens of the world are making it very difficult to get this medication. If this combination of medicationS is shown to be effective with early treatment the rage in this country is going to be huge.

  818. MichiganGuy says:

    Little wesley, like I said, you have no proof just old allegations. Now, isn’t it time for you to go rub some guy down or are you still out of work? LOL

  819. Cash Cow TM says:

    First, I do not know what had happened to DRUDGE.

    Day after day, almost no stories on monkeys.

    ******************
    Second, I got an email about buying an acre of land on Mars. Was seriously considering it, but they I figured the federal, state and local governments would start to tax my Mars acre so I backed off.

    *******
    Third, pretty pitiful that all the D candidates running for POTUS got creamed by dementia Joe Biden….so who will the Dem big wigs actually pick to replace Joe once they wheel him out the door?

  820. Wes says:

    That’s a weak argument, Elmer. Moore was not credible in his denials, and Alabamans passed judgment on him in 2017.

    (Hint: He lost. Ssssshhhh.)

    Meanwhile Kavanaugh was credible and earned his way onto the Supreme Court.

    Beyond his salacious behavior, his theocratic sanctimony was an obvious turnoff to voters that put him in a precarious position long before the allegations about his past came out. He’s so full of himself he still hasn’t conceded or acknowledged Jones beat him.

    Thankfully AL Republicans saw through this charlatan a few months ago and sentenced him to much-deserved political obscurity.

  821. DW says:

    Wes, back in February East Carolina University had Biden leading Trump in NC 48/46.

    They just released a new poll with Trump leading Biden 46/43

  822. mRviTO says:

    Just saw a CDC flowchart on what schools have to do to reopen…

    You can probably google it if you want to see it.

  823. mRviTO says:

    Started teaching my daughter by Florida Virtu al School in late November before this mess started. It is pretty good.

  824. Wes says:

    That’s great to hear, DW.

    It aligns with what I’ve been saying about NC.

  825. mRviTO says:

    This week I taught her about Federalism, Anti-Federalism, and the sharing of powers.

  826. NYCmike says:

    “It aligns with what I’ve been saying about NC.”

    -Sorry, but didn’t you just warn about Tillis the other day?

    Or was it someone else?

  827. janz says:

    #870. The problem with HCQ is not that it’s not effective, it’s that it’s cheap. A therapeutic round of this drug, orally taken, is about $12. A therapeutic round of the CDC/Fauci-endorsed remdesivir drug, given by IV in the hospital, is around $1200. As is often said, just follow the money…..

  828. Tina says:

    Fauci is masked behind trump, as are some of the others.

  829. Wes says:

    You’re an idiot, Mikey. I’ve consistently said Cunningham isn’t an impressive candidate, and Tillis will beat him by about 4-5%.

    Forest is the one I’ve said is a likely loser against Cooper.

  830. Tina says:

    Fauci has been pushed aside for vaccine.

    There is a new doo toe a signed to the vaccine and a general for its distribution (logistics).

  831. Tina says:

    The new Dr has seen good results from an early study on vaccine,

  832. janz says:

    Tina, is Fauci even going to give any remark? He wasn’t named by Trump to come to the microphone and talk.

  833. Pitchaboy says:

    Trump gets a vaccine: Slow Joe can concede before election

  834. jason says:

    So Michigan Moron checked the archives:?

    jason says:
    November 12, 2017 at 11:49 am
    Moore should go because he has no respect for the rule of law.

    Nothing to do with these allegations which I am now convinced are just a political hit job.”

    ok

    jason says:
    May 15, 2020 at 11:06 am

    My problem with Moore was actually not the 40 year old charges, I think I was fair to him on that.

    My problem with him is that he is a despicable ass who has no respect for the Constitution and was twice removed from the Alablama Supreme Court for failing to adhere to it.”

    So where exactly is the discrepancy?

  835. jason says:

    Fauci has been pushed aside for vaccine.”

    Fake news.

    This is not a coronavirus task force meeting.

  836. NYCmike says:

    #883 – You really are short-tempered.

    I’ll take from your answer that it wasn’t you who expressed worry about Tillis in the past several days.

    Thanks for answering, little man. Cheers.

  837. jason says:

    Finally!

    The Associated Press has learned that Wolf is planning to announce Friday that effective May 22, Adams, Beaver, Carbon, Columbia, Cumberland, Juniata, Mifflin, Perry, Susquehanna, Wyoming, Wayne and York will be the next batch of counties moving to the “yellow” phase of his reopening plan.

  838. Tina says:

    Janz, no, he is not speaking,

    There is a new doctor who is the lead in the vaccine.

    He spoke and said that an early result is promising.

    The General also spoke on distribution

  839. Chicon says:

    Wes is just trying to deflect attention from the news that a guy he supports is dirty.

  840. Tina says:

    Here is cnns article

    Dr. Slaoui has gravitas.

    The army general is very good.

    (CNN)President Donald Trump, whose prediction of a coronavirus vaccine by year’s end outpaces the outlook given by most health officials, announced the two men leading his “Operation Warp Speed” development effort during a noon event in the Rose Garden on Friday.

    “We’d love to see if we could do it prior to the end of the year,” Trump said as he unveiled the project. “Operation Warp Speed,” Trump said, “means big and it means fast.”
    CNN reported earlier this week that Trump was naming Moncef Slaoui, the ex-head of GlaxoSmithKline’s vaccines division, to lead the effort alongside four-star Army General Gustave Perna.

  841. Tina says:

    Look today or soon for executive orders on pharma drugs produced here.

    Also look for a tightening of the executive order granting foreigners work opportunities here.

    Trump needs to push back on Apples Ceo.

  842. mnw says:

    Some of the most vulnerable DEM House incumbents* want no part of Pelosi’s Xmas tree Covid relief bill. I suspect the special election in CA concentrated their minds wonderfully.

    *Cunningham in SC.

  843. NYCmike says:

    YOOOOOO

  844. NYCmike says:

    mnw snuck in there!

    Go Bluezzzzzz! They may be Champs for 2 years instead of 1!

  845. NYCmike says:

    NYC today, humid as all heck!

    Hope that helps in combating the spread of the virus, and people realize they should ignore Cuomo and Deblasio when it comes to going to parks and beaches.

  846. NYCmike says:

    https://cordair.com/

    -This is the gallery that opened in NAPA. Took a chance and called, had a wonderful conversation with a person there, and she was thankful for all of the support from around the globe.

    Be smart, stay safe, live your life!

  847. jason says:

    Dang, now Devin Nunes is a RINO?

    The last true blue (red) 100% litmus tested conservative pls turn off the lights

  848. Robbie says:

    I watched Trump’s press conference on Operation Warp Speed. I think people are underrating how much a positive vaccine announcement in September or October could scramble the race in Trump’s favor.

  849. jason says:

    Wes is just trying to deflect attention from the news that a guy he supports is dirty.”

    This from someone who purports to oppose kangaroo courts by the Dems.

  850. jason says:

    Yep, the vaccine doesn’t have to be widely available yet in September or October.

    Just an announcement that it exists would transform the economy and possibly the election.

  851. Robbie says:

    It certainly seems as though the Democrat governors got the message after we had an 18,000 case day earlier in the week. There’s been a steady rise back into the md 20,000 range. That’s better than the 30,000 cases we were racking up, but fat boy Pritzker, Wolfe, and Newsom got the memo.

  852. mnw says:

    Hi, Mike

    A weird NHL season is better than no season at all. Last I heard, they were planning to resume the regular season, but play all the games in just 4 venues, in front of empty stands.

  853. Chicon says:

    Jason, do you believe Republican congressmen should have publicly exposed the testimony of the Obama people who swore under oath there was no evidence of collusion? Do you think they should be asked why they didn’t?

  854. Tina says:

    Fed chairperson Powell to appear on 60 minutes in Sunday.

    Another gubment guy (quasi).that loves to wreck things.

  855. jason says:

    Wow, CA moron actually calls gig jobs “lollipops”…

    Californian independent contractors and freelancers got quite a shock Thursday evening when a state senator compared lost jobs to “lollipops.”

    Senator Hannah-Beth Jackson represents the 19th District in western Ventura County and Santa Barbara County. In a Senate Labor, Public Employment and Retirement meeting officials heard arguments for and against pushing forward SB 806 and SB990. The bills — put forth by Republican senators John Moorlach (R-Costa Mesa) and Shannon Grove (R-Bakersfield) — aimed to immediately suspend and amend the disastrous AB5 legislation that killed independent contracting/freelance jobs across the state. Moorlach and Grove have been two politicians at the forefront of pushing back against the behemoth job-killer, alongside other Republicans in the assembly, like Kevin Kiley (R-06). Even before the coronavirus caused state leaders to close businesses and end millions of jobs, hundreds of thousands of jobs across over 150 job designations had been lost overnight to the bill meant to only affect Uber and Lyft. The state was already facing massive unemployment and the bill’s author, Lorena Gonzalez (D-80), has been under fire ever since.

    Jackson’s comments came following the public comments portion of the meeting, and the level of dismissiveness of the plight of thousands of honest, hard-working, self-employed Californians was shocking.

    “I appreciate that some independent contractors are upset. AB5 took away their lollipop.”

  856. Chicon says:

    906 – I have no clue what you are referring to, which is not all that unusual.

  857. jason says:

    Jason, do you believe Republican congressmen should have publicly exposed the testimony of the Obama people who swore under oath there was no evidence of collusion? Do you think they should be asked why they didn’t?”

    Devin Nunes has been at the forefront to expose the Mueller Investigation charade and Schiff’s lies. He has been tireless in uncovering the rot behind all this.

    So I am skeptical about the way this is being framed, that somehow he deliberately withheld something that would be damaging to the Dems considering that for years he has done the opposite.

    So yeah, at the moment, intuitively, I think this is probably BS because it doesn’t really make sense.

  858. jason says:

    I have no clue”

    Yes, that is not unusual for you.

  859. NYCmike says:

    #914 – skeptical! EXACTLY!

    Which is why I linked to it, so that I could have more people trying to find out whether TRUE or FALSE.

    For people that liked Reagan, his Trust But Verify statement seems to be anathema to how you deal with politics!

  860. Chicon says:

    Nice evasion try.

    The transcripts are now available and show that the Obama people were lying to the public about Russia collusion. The Republicans on the committee were aware that their testimony put the lie to their public comments. Yet none of them said a word. Should they have? Should they be asked why they didn’t?

  861. NYCmike says:

    “Should they have? Should they be asked why they didn’t?”

    -Yes…….and YES.

    OMG! That is enough hard word for today!

  862. NYCmike says:

    jason must be too busy swallowing more beef.

  863. Chicon says:

    Sorry, I don’t speak llama. Try some English.

  864. jason says:

    Rep LaMalfa D-CA on the House floor opposing “proxy voting”

    “The Constitution did not catch the virus”

  865. Tina says:

    Beat the press is 2:30 with Kayleigh.

    Stock market is up in afternoon trading.

  866. jason says:

    Yet none of them said a word.”

    I guess we need to add them all to Tina’s RINO list.

    Now at 68,747 names.

  867. jason says:

    “Should they have? Should they be asked why they didn’t?”

    Here at HHR we are always good at speculating without the facts.

    So what do you guys think the reason was?

    1. They are all secret Dems/RINOS
    2. Schiff had compromising info on all of them
    3. Another reason

  868. jason says:

    Now that Devin Nunes is a RINO, who is the new 100% litmus tested conservative to be trusted?

  869. Tina says:

    Chicon, a better question is why didn’t the House Rs subpoena the crooks.

    Who told them not to subpoena?

    This, of course, was when the Republicans had control of the House under the regime of Paolo Ryan.

    Drats don’t waste opportunities like the Rs.

  870. NYCmike says:

    ONLY ONE PERSON has claimed Nunes is a RINO.

    And someone still hasn’t answered the questions.

    They happen to be the same person.

  871. NYCmike says:

    Tina,

    In that link about Nunes, the writer actually wants to find out if someone else kept Nunes from doing that.

  872. NYCmike says:

    STILL only one person has labeled Nunes a RINO……

  873. NYCmike says:

    jason says:
    May 15, 2020 at 2:20 pm

    Now that Devin Nunes is a RINO……

  874. Chicon says:

    Another evasive answer by Jason. Must be a tough one for him. Why is it so difficult?

  875. jason says:

    I think this “proxy vote” thing is blatantly unconstitutional and should get more blowback from the conservative press.

    I think most people will take a dim view of 174k a year Reps staying home and send messages for others to “proxy vote” for them.

    I just saw Bost from IL say his 720000 constituents are not going to be represented by a proxy.

  876. Tina says:

    Ny, I don’t know what article, I presume you linked something and will check it out .

    But Nunes was removed Temporarily from the committee for some “bs investigstion.”

    We know who removed him.

    Nunes is not a Rino.

  877. jason says:

    jason says:
    May 15, 2020 at 2:20 pm

    Now that Devin Nunes is a RINO……”

    Sounds to me like the author of the article is suggesting that… did you read it?

  878. jason says:

    Nunes is not a Rino.”

    If it is from Tina, it is definitive.

  879. Tina says:

    Here is an article on Nunes stepping downs

    I believe the rooster took over.

    So, rooster gives you smoke or a sound bite, but nothing much,

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/06/us/politics/devin-nunes-house-intelligence-committee-russia.html

  880. jason says:

    I know NYC is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but it sure sounds like I don’t think Nunes is a RINO.

    “Devin Nunes has been at the forefront to expose the Mueller Investigation charade and Schiff’s lies. He has been tireless in uncovering the rot behind all this.

    So I am skeptical about the way this is being framed, that somehow he deliberately withheld something that would be damaging to the Dems considering that for years he has done the opposite.”

  881. Tina says:

    The same thing can be said about Goober.

    Talks a good game, but no subpoenas.

    Since the end of Mulehead in May of 2019, he has done nothing

    Drats would not be doing the same, if the shoes were reversed.

  882. Chicon says:

    Jason is clearly a hypocrite. He alleges he left the party because he doesn’t like some of the current platform. Yet he chastises those who want accountability from their leaders.

    Reminds me of the McCain/Ginsburg hypocrisy.

  883. jason says:

    Speaking of evading questions, still waiting for NYC and Chicon to answer MY question:

    So what do you guys think the reason was?

    1. They are all secret Dems/RINOS
    2. Schiff had compromising info on all of them
    3. Another reason

  884. Tina says:

    Nunes is the one that stopped the coup imo.

    He went out there while the other weak kneed Rs did sheot.

    And I said this since day 1.

    Go back to the archives.

  885. NYCmike says:

    “Sounds to me like the author of the article is suggesting that… did you read it?”

    -“suggesting”? I thought he wrote it to get information. Here is the last paragraph:

    “Why didn’t Nunes step up and do what he should have done? Why did he let Schiff and the Democrat-media complex get away with their lies when he had the goods on them? Was he fully on board with the Ryan agenda, or did Ryan prevent him from doing his duty? Or was he perfectly happy to see the President and the country put through the Mueller-Democrat-media wringer these past three years despite his many public statements on Fox News and elsewhere to the contrary? Someone needs to ask him a few direct questions about that. He has some answering to do.”

  886. Tina says:

    Ok done for now. Time to watch beat the press.

    I dont agree with Nunes being called a Rino.

    He got screwed because he was forced to step down as chairperson temporarily due to a complaint that was false.

  887. Tina says:

    Nymike, the author is wrong.

    Nunes saved trump.

    He came out and gave them everything.

    For doing that, he was removed from the committee temporarily.

    He shed light on the coup.

  888. jason says:

    He alleges he left the party because he doesn’t like some of the current platform. Yet he chastises those who want accountability from their leaders. ”

    Huh? What platform?

    And who did I “chastise for wanting accountability”

    You are an idiot.

    I have no problem with accountability from leaders.

    My problem was specifically with the article posted and the following statement:

    “unless their ulterior motive was in fact to lose the House and their chairmanships to the Democrats as part of a plan to impeach the President.”

    I think it is ridiculous to suggest Nunes wanted to lose the House and impeach Trump.

  889. NYCmike says:

    Tina,

    I posted a link. The writer thinks that Nunes could have put some information out to the public back in 2018.

    He is asking why Nunes didn’t.

    I believe Nunes did all he could……and if he did, those questions won’t be hard to answer at all.

    I don’t think Nunes is a RINO, but if given new information, I would have to change that opinion.

    Hopefully, the questions by the author of the link will be answered soon, and it will confirm what I originally thought of Nunes, that he did everything possible to expose Democratic lies.

    Is it incorrect to keep trying to find out things? That is an odd way to inform yourself.

  890. jason says:

    Tina says:
    May 15, 2020 at 2:36 pm

    Nymike, the author is wrong.”

    Nah, he just wants “accountability”.

    That is why he accuses Nunes of purposefully losing the House so Trump could be impeachede.

  891. NYCmike says:

    #945 – Fine. If Nunes was unable to do anything, he could easily prove the writer incorrect.

  892. NYCmike says:

    “I think it is ridiculous to suggest Nunes wanted to lose the House and impeach Trump.”

    -As do I.

    Which means that the questions could be answered quite easily!

  893. jason says:

    I don’t think Nunes is a RINO, but if given new information, I would have to change that opinion.”

    LOL

    The guys spends years of tireless efforts trying to uncover the truth about the Mueller charade and Schiff’s lies.

    But “new information” makes him a RINO.

    You can’t make this sh-t up

  894. Tina says:

    Ny Mike, He could do all he could do.

    But, he was removed for a bit. I bet that author forgot about it.
    Months were lost.

    Also, he was not allowed by Ryan to subpoena.

    The author should look at Ryan.

  895. NYCmike says:

    If jason thinks it is ridiculous, it must be wrong.

    For those who thought Trump could win in 2016……it really didn’t happen, as jason thought the idea of Trump winning was ridiculous.

  896. jason says:

    Personally, I don’t think Nunes should respond to someone accusing of giving away the House to try to impeach Trump.

    Well, maybe, he should tell him to GFH, I take that back.

  897. NYCmike says:

    “But “new information” makes him a RINO.”

    -Repeat: ONLY ONE PERSON has said this!

    And it isn’t me, or Chicon, or Tina.

  898. Chicon says:

    941 – Jason is not brightest bulb. If we knew the answer we wouldn’t have to ask the question, eh?

    Keep squirming.

  899. Tina says:

    Mike, the author should note that Nunes on April 6, 2017, temporarily stepped aside from leading that investigation while the Office of Congressional Ethics investigated allegations (which Nunes denied) that he had improperly disclosed classified information to the public.[3][4] In December 2017 the Republican-majority U.S. House Committee on Ethics closed its investigation without taking any action against Nunes.

    That is almost six months that he was knocked out.

    Wikipedia

  900. jason says:

    I said the chance of him winning the nomination was ridiculous, you probably did to at first.

    Actually, if you were honest, even though I was anti-Trump, I did give him a chance of winning the GE.

    I just didn’t give him 3 states that he narrowly won, PA, WI, and MI, although I did say I thought he had a chance at PA.

    So GFY.

  901. jason says:

    “But “new information” makes him a RINO.”

    LOL

    “I don’t think Nunes is a RINO, but if given new information, I would have to change that opinion”

  902. jason says:

    If we knew the answer we wouldn’t have to ask the question, eh?”

    I don’t know the answer to this.

    Have you stopped beating your wife?

  903. jason says:

    Frankly, I don’t think any R on the committee wanted to lose the House.

    I think Nunes released all the information he thought was relevant and contrary to Dem/MSM narrative at the time.

    Nunes repeatedly said Schiff was lying about having proof of collusion and repeatedly said ther was zero evidence of collusion.

    I assume that was because nothing in the testimonies indicated that.

  904. Chicon says:

    961 – did you eat too much tofu today? The fact is that none of the Republicans on the relevant House committee said something anywhere near this, “Power, Brennan, Clapper, et al, have testified to the house that they have no evidence of collusion.” For the 3rd time…why not?

    The question deserves an answer.

  905. NYCmike says:

    #957 – Tina,

    The only one calling Nunes a RINO is jason.

    I am sure the questions posed by that writer could easily be answered by Nunes.

    I am not sure why jason is so worried that Nunes won’t be able to answer them.

  906. Phil says:

    Sitting at 861 for the day.

    Gone to be close, Jason.

    Illinois Massachusetts Michigan Forida Tx all still out.

    Almost all of California plus Philly

    I’d say you are 50-50

  907. Phil says:

    …plus the NY dump

  908. DW says:

    Trump at 49% approval in Gallup

  909. jason says:

    Sitting at 861 for the day.

    Gone to be close, Jason.

    Illinois Massachusetts Michigan Forida Tx all still out.

    Yeah, but actually none of the numbers in so far would support 1800, you are going to need a big dump.

    As an A-hole, I know these things happen.

  910. jason says:

    I am not sure why jason is so worried that Nunes won’t be able to answer them.”

    LOL

    I am not worried, I could care less, water under the bridge. I think Nunes should tell the “questioners” to GFTs, but that is up to him.

    Btw, I am no great Nunes fan, his memo was wrong when it stated the Steele Dossier was not material to a lot of the investigations, we know now that is not true. I always thought that despite his dogged determination, a lot of his interviews lacked the “beef”.

    But I know a hit piece when I see one. And claiming Nunes wanted to throw the election to impeach Trump is a hit piece.

  911. jason says:

    Nobody asked me about the rally.

    Well, because I was there, Wolf liberated York Co from red to yellow.

  912. mRviTO says:

    Nicole Saphier, MD
    @NBSaphierMD
    ·
    May 14
    Researchers at NYU found patients given hydroxychloroquine along w zinc sulphate & azithromycin were 44% less likely to die from the coronavirus, contradicting earlier JAMA study. One theory is that hydroxychloroquine may aid to absorb zinc (know antiviral properties).

  913. DW says:

    Vitamin D also good for you

  914. mRviTO says:

    Peter J. Hasson
    @peterjhasson
    ·
    55m
    BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: New York Admits Knowingly Undercounting Nursing Home Deaths After Quietly Changing Reporting Rules. @AndrewKerrNC

  915. NYCmike says:

    “One theory is that hydroxychloroquine may aid to absorb zinc (know antiviral properties).”

    -This would back up what Dr. Zelenko said back in March during the Rudy Giuliani interview.

  916. NYCmike says:

    “Vitamin D also good for you”

    -Blue state governors: “Close the beaches!”

  917. jason says:

    Looks like I am not going to get an answer to:

    1. They are all secret Dems/RINOS
    2. Schiff had compromising info on all of them
    3. Another reason

    So let me pose another one, might be easier for the “RINO hunters” to answer:

    Aside from giving NYC a reason to now call Nunes a RINO, what does the answer to the questions Should they have leaked the testimony and Why didn’t they leak the testimony change?

    Of the many questions still out there regarding the Mueller witch hunt, the collusion hoax, the impeachment charade, etc. that would be on the bottom of my list.

  918. jason says:

    Ok Phil, congratulations, we are at 1100 so you don’t lose the bet.

    If I was a betting man I would say your chances of winning the bet are slim, however.

    Only CA can save you at this point.

  919. Robbie says:

    Pritzker is really pulling his weight with case load. More than 7,000 cases this week. The DNC will be happy.

  920. jason says:

    New York Admits Knowingly Undercounting Nursing Home Deaths After Quietly Changing Reporting Rules. @AndrewKerrNC”

    What? Phil gimme my tacos back.

    Oh wait, undercounting?

  921. jason says:

    Pritzker is really pulling his weight”

    Literally…

  922. NYCmike says:

    https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/megan-fox/2020/05/14/neurosurgeon-says-face-masks-pose-serious-risk-to-healthy-people-n392431

    “But now, there’s another doctor weighing in—besides Dr. Fauci, bonafide sex god and ruler of us all, who also said face masks are largely security theater and of no use to the healthy. Dr. Russell Blaylock, a neurosurgeon, has written an editorial saying that “masks pose serious risks to the healthy.””

  923. Phil says:

    1176 deaths with four hours to go and the only big states left and not in are California and Texas.

    Congrats, Jason Barring a ridiculous dump out of nowhere it appears we finish somewhere under 1600 when the smoke finally clears at the end of the day – well below 1800.

    I concede. You remain undefeated. Quite an achievement considering I had the entire blue state force behind me.

    Kudos.

  924. jason says:

    Phil, nobody won the bet.

    If its any consolation, you will probably be closer to 1800 than I am to 1000.

  925. jason says:

    I read the mask story. Seems to be well supported.

    My only reservation about it is the fact it says sick people should still wear masks, healthy people don’t need to

    Since the disease can be asymptomatic and we don’t KNOW who is healthy it seems to me that only the “recovered” population would not need to wear one.

  926. Phil says:

    Yeah, a push, Jason …..but you still have the distinction of never having actually lost a bet. I thought for sure with Cuomo and Illinois Fats working in tandum 2000 a day through the end of May was a foregone conclusion.

  927. Tina says:

    M.Joseph Sheppard
    @SHEPMJS
    ·
    36m
    As I was saying;
    Trump Appro Gallup 49% Rasmussen 49% Economist 47%

    The two California results didn’t happen in a vacuum

  928. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    989. “didn’t happen in a vacuum”

    Actually that may describe Joe Biden’s thinking process. If the Democrats don’t get a better nominee, they are in trouble.

  929. Robbie says:

    Tina says:
    May 15, 2020 at 4:45 pm
    M.Joseph Sheppard
    @SHEPMJS
    ·
    36m
    As I was saying;
    Trump Appro Gallup 49% Rasmussen 49% Economist 47%
    The two California results didn’t happen in a vacuum

    – I think the evidence is pretty clear the more Trump stays out of the news and refrains from sparring with the press, the better his approval rating does.

  930. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    The more Democrats are viewed as the “lockdown “party”, the better Trump’s chances. The Democrats, in their regulatory zeal, do not realize how angry people are even in blue states.

  931. jason says:

    think the evidence is pretty clear the more Trump stays out of the news and refrains from sparring with the press, the better his approval rating does.”

    I never agreed with this theory.

    I think the only reason Trump is competitive and even why he is still in office is that he understands the MSM is at war with him and he can’t afford to let them have free reign.

    I might not agree with some of Trump’s tweets, or the content of some of his comments, but I think they have saved his Presidency.

  932. Phil says:

    Yeah, Trump Is ABSOLUTELY better off when he lays low. Those press conferences he was having daily made me grimace. The combative, bragging Trump needs to save it for the rallies. It didn’t play well in the press briefings. Glad those around him convinced hem to abandon those,

  933. Phil says:

    I don’t mind him pushing back, but he tends to over do it sometimes.

  934. Hugh says:

    Here is a switch. I generally agree with Jason over Phil on this one. I do think trump is better off with fewer briefings than daily.

  935. Chicon says:

    994 – Jason sounds more rational now. He was suffering from Bidenitis earlier.

  936. NYCmike says:

    I thought it was RINO-itis, as he was the only one using that word!

  937. Robbie says:

    SanDiegoCitizen says:
    May 15, 2020 at 5:22 pm
    The more Democrats are viewed as the “lockdown “party”, the better Trump’s chances. The Democrats, in their regulatory zeal, do not realize how angry people are even in blue states.

    – I completely agree. It would totally be in keeping with Trump’s populist message to make an issue of Democrat governors who won’t ease any of their lockdown restrictions. Saying that they’re trying to steal our civil liberties would be a powerful message, especially when coupled with an anti-China message.

  938. lisab says:

    i don’t think the democrats’ bill is big enough

    i want $5000 a month minimum

    who can live on less than $60000 a year these days?

  939. lisab says:

    and … i want a pet monkey …

    a capuchin or squirrel monkey, not one like robbie

  940. Robbie says:

    I don’t think there’s any doubt Trump’s daily press conferences in April hurt him. His approval rating dipped and there’s a reason he stopped doing them. Sparring with the press may make him and many who like him feel good, but it really doesn’t accomplish much or move the needle with those outside his committed base.

    On the other hand, his event today is exactly what he should be doing for the time being. Rose Garden events with a defined message (written text) allow him to use the trappings of the presidency to his advantage. If he sticks with this for the next month or so, he’ll be in very good shape.

  941. Chicon says:

    1005 – I think the thing that has helped most is that Trump successfully put the opening of the economy on the governors. The rallies are all about the Dem governors acting like tyrants – he’s out of the fray.

  942. jason says:

    Well, I didn’t mean Trump has to have daily COVID briefings.. they were more important in the beginning… now they should only be done when there is something more important like the Warp vaccine thing.

    I meant the tweet war with the press and the attacks on the press at his rallies. Once he gives up on fighting back he is screwed.

    Of course, some tweets are better than others, but in general he has no choice but to fight back.

  943. jason says:

    who can live on less than $60000 a year these days?”

    But did you add in no rent, no mortgage, no credit card payments?

    That will push it up to like $100k.

    I know, still low, maybe free cruises/vacations to sweeten the deal.

  944. jason says:

    He was suffering from Bidenitis earlier”

    Hot diggity dog!

    Tina, take me off the RINO list.

    I know, only temporary.

  945. jason says:

    Phil, we are at 1484.

    You are only one big dump away from taco heaven.

    But only WA, ID, NE, and NH out.

    I think DeBlasio is your only hope. A 250 death dump at 8:30 PM could put you over.

  946. lisab says:

    I know, still low, maybe free cruises/vacations to sweeten the deal.
    —————————————

    and a monkey

    don’t forget the monkey!!!

  947. Chicon says:

    Non-Republicans, by definition, can’t be RINO’s.

  948. Tina says:

    Good move

    Jack Posobiec
    @JackPosobiec
    ·
    5m
    BREAKING: DNI Grenell removes FBI from candidate election security briefings

  949. Tina says:

    Garcia’s lead is down to 16,850 votes after some final votes.

  950. jason says:

    Non-Republicans, by definition, can’t be RINO’s.”

    Good point.

    Take Rand Paul off the list too.

  951. NYCmike says:

    Barbers rule!

    Liberty Haircut or Death!

  952. Tina says:

    Democrat Joe Biden on President Trump correctly blaming China for lying to the world about coronavirus:

    “And so, I, I just don’t, and now he’s trying to play this China card, I mean, I don’t know wh-, I don’t know wh-, eh, eh this is an usual president”

    https://twitter.com/KingsleyCortes/status/1261122122551885831

  953. jason says:

    May 15 Cases 26,692
    May 15 Deaths 1595

    May 8 Cases 29,162
    May 8 Deaths 1687

    IHME Model
    Projected Actual
    May 1 2343 1897 – 446
    May 2 2276 1691 – 585
    May 3 2265 1153 -1112
    May 4 2205 1324 – 881
    May 5 2180 2350 + 170
    May 6 2143 2528 + 385
    May 7 2097 2129 + 32
    May 8 2039 1687 – 352
    May 9 1971 1422 – 549
    May10 1921 750 – 1171
    May11 1898 1008 – 890
    May12 1803 1630 – 173
    May13 1774 1772 – 2
    May14 1740 1715 – 35
    May14 1703 1595 – 108

  954. jason says:

    For the RINO hunters…

    “We’re doing a large criminal referral on the Mueller dossier team that put together a fraudulent report — that knew there was no collusion the day that Mueller walked in the door,” the California Republican added. “They set an obstruction of justice trap. There’s no doubt in my mind that we will make a conspiracy referral there.”

    Nunes has long maintained that Mueller knew from the day he became special counsel in May 2017 that there was no coordination between the Trump campaign and the Kremlin. He says the House Intelligence Committee, which conducted its own Russian interference investigation when he was chairman, determined there was no collusion by early 2018.”

    Yilek’s bombshell came from an interview with Devin Nunes during which he said that the GOP Minority Members on the House Intelligence Committee would be making criminal referrals to the Department of Justice on individual members of the Special Counsel’s Office headed by Robert Mueller.”

  955. jason says:

    Not an impressive result for the Dems

    “House passes $3T coronavirus relief — the most expensive bill in history

    The record-breaking bill narrowly passed by a 208-199 vote. Fourteen Democrats defied their party and voted “no,” while one Republican, Rep. Pete King of New York, broke with the GOP and voted “yes.”

  956. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1025. Add the two Republicans who just got elected to congress, but have not been sworn in yet — and the vote would have been 208-201

  957. Tina says:

    The NIH just began this trial? WTF.

    l E T 17
    @Inevitable_ET
    NIH begins clinical trial of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin to treat COVID-19

  958. lisab says:

    harris is rumored to be the favorite for vp

    biden likes a little something-something on the side! 🙂

  959. lisab says:

    i thought of running for vp like harris …

    but you just don’t know if biden likes pineapple 🙂

  960. Sheeple,Jr. says:

    Now this would go viral!!!!

    “Aides who worked on the Kavanaugh nomination are considering dropping an oppo file on Ford because of this
    @politico
    piece. Sources tell me.”(Henry Rodgers at the Daily Caller)

    The Politico piece was a total smear job!

  961. Tina says:

    Hand of Dark Sister
    @EsquireTargary1
    · 8h
    Crunching the numbers, @MikeGarcia2020 won:
    45.58% in heavy Dem LA
    55.68% in suburban Santa Clarita
    49.2% in heavily Dem, heavily Hispanic Palmdale (2-1 Dem!)
    52.72% in heavily Dem, heavily Hispanic Lancaster!
    Garcia killed it.
    https://twitter.com/kkrz1211/status/1261512071205838849?s=20

  962. jason says:

    Spain 104 deaths.

    Lowest since March 16.

  963. Tina says:

    BREAKING: Pennsylvania House Rep Proposes Impeachment of Gov Tom Wolf over Nursing Home scandal and abuse of office

    State Representative From Butler County Proposes Impeachment Legislation Against Gov. Wolf
    A Butler County state representative is seeking to pose legislation calling for the impeachment of Governor Tom Wolf.
    pittsburgh.cbslocal.com

  964. PresidentPaul! says:

    If we calculate unemployment data as it was in years past we have 39.6% unemployment vs the great depression 25%.

    http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/unemployment-charts

  965. Bitterlaw says:

    Ocean City, NJ beach and boardwalk open – mostly. The virus won’t bother you if you buy pizza. If you buy a t-shirt, you will be dead before you leave the store.

    After 2 months locked down, we are going for a few hours. Menendez is scum but I didn’t vote for him. I have not lived in NJ even part time since 1994.

    Wes to post something that merits a Zzzzzz in 3…2…1….

  966. PresidentPaul! says:

    1027
    I wouldn’t hold my breath for double QT prolongation remedy…

  967. Tina says:

    Impeach

    Whitler

    Wolf

    Venthoarder

  968. jason says:

    US active case increase

    Week May 1-8 110,000
    Week May 8-15 63.000

  969. jason says:

    Bitter is trying to pretend he is not responsible for over a century of rampant corruption and sewer politics of NJ again?

    And of course, instead of spending his money touring the gorgeous Amish countryside of his home state of PA, he chooses to help the economy of New Jersey, while millions of fellow PA residents go hungry.

    Sad.

  970. jason says:

    If we calculate unemployment data as it was in years past we have 39.6% unemployment vs the great depression 25%.”

    Of course I never click on any of Bunu’s links, I could end of at the American Nazi Party site, but the fact the link says “Shadow Stats” gives you an idea of its reliability.

  971. jason says:

    “Impeach

    Whitler

    Wolf

    Venthoarder”

    Tina doesn’t have a nickname for Wolf yet?

    Sleeping on the job or resting on her laurels.

  972. Bitterlaw says:

    Unfortunately, the Atlantic Ocean has not reached Lititz yet. Maybe global warming will fix that.

  973. jason says:

    I asked Amos Stoltzfuss once if he ever went to the beach. He asked what do you do there. I said well you sit on the sand and look at the ocean. He said what do you see in the dark? I said this is during the day. He said “who is plowing the fields”?

  974. jason says:

    Did you invite Tgca to go to the shore?

    For a sugar junkie like him it would be heaven, from cotton candy to fudge to salt water taffy to ice cream the poor bastard will go crazy.

  975. mnw says:

    San Diego

    U know I always like your posts.

    However, it’s naive to think the vote on Pelosi’s stimulus bill was actually “close.”

    She gave “Get Out of Jail Free” cards to 14 endangered House DEMs facing unusually tough reelection fights, i.e., Cunningham in SC; the freshman DEM in UT (Adams?), etc.

    Look at the supposed DEM “no” votes. It’s a who’s who of endangered DEMs. Their “no” votes are boob bait for the locals they consider STOOPID. If she really had to have them, she would’ve, of course.

    On another topic, Gallup has Trump JA at 49 2day, tied for best ever. That’s “adults,” too.

  976. janz says:

    I would add to any impeachment list Gov. Newsom & Mayor Garcetti of CA.

  977. janz says:

    mnw, agree that Pelosi governs the house vote – giving those permission to opt out when they have more vulnerable districts, as long as their No vote doesn’t compromise the way she wants the bill to go. She did the same thing when the health care act was voted on.

  978. PresidentPaul! says:

    https://twitter.com/McClellanOsc/status/1261480087972573184?s=20

    Wonder how Corona tower is going now days.

  979. PresidentPaul! says:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mW4Fbt-BWs

    Danielle DiMartino Booth end of week take

  980. Tina says:

    I think Giriard, who is a pediatrician, and dr. Birx should lead this. End Fear porn by Dr. Fauci

    https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/author-dr-andrew-bostom-americans-must-disregard-dr-faucis-pediatric-panic-porn/

  981. jason says:

    “fear porn by Dr. Fauci”

    I love it here.

  982. jason says:

    I was wondering what I would prefer to do today.

    Watch Danielle DiMartino Booth end of week take or have a barium enema.

    Tough choice.

  983. Phil says:

    Anyone notice that the number of tests went up to 460,000 yesterday?

    The average was about 130,000 a month ago.

    ….but yeah, Democrats. We don’t have enough tests.

    Just like Trump didn’t give us enough ventilators.

  984. jason says:

    “The law firm of the retired judge who will argue against dismissing the case of Michael Flynn is a hotbed of Democratic Party financial supporters, Federal Election Commission disclosures show.

    Employees at ex-judge John Gleeson’s New York firm, Debevoise & Plimpton, have contributed $240,000 in the 2019-20 election cycle, almost all to Democrats or left-leaning causes, the filings show.”

  985. DW says:

    Its begun. Now the lead for Garcia in CA_25 is reduced to just 55/45. Still 18% of precincts to report. Its not over.

  986. jason says:

    Dodged a bullet by one vote.

    “The Senate voted against an amendment on Wednesday sponsored by Sens. Steve Daines (R-MT) and Ron Wyden (D-OR) that would curb law enforcement agencies’ ability to obtain web browsing and Internet search data without a warrant.”

    It got 59 votes, but fortunately 27 Rs and 10 Dems voted against it.

    The 27 Rs that stood up against terrorism were:

    John Barrasso (R-WY)
    Marsha Blackburn (R-TN)
    Roy Blunt (R-MO)
    John Boozman (R-AR)
    Richard Burr (R-NC)
    Shelley Moore Capito (R-WV)
    Susan Collins (R-ME)
    John Cornyn (R-TX)
    Tom Cotton (R-AR)
    Deb Fischer (R-NE)
    Lindsey Graham (R-SC)
    Cindy Hyde-Smith (R-MS)
    James Inhofe (R-OK)
    Ron Johnson (R-WI)
    James Lankford (R-OK)
    Mitch McConnell (R-KY)
    David Perdue (R-GA)
    Rob Portman (R-OH)
    Pat Roberts (R-KS)
    Mitt Romney (R-UT)
    Marco Rubio (R-FL)
    Richard Shelby (R-AL)
    John Thune (R-SD)
    Thom Tillis (R-NC)

  987. jason says:

    In fairness congratulations to the 10 Dems who stood up against terrorism:

    Thomas Carper (D-DE)
    Bob Casey (D-PA)
    Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)
    Margaret Wood Hassan (D-NH)
    Doug Jones (D-AL)
    Tim Kaine (D-VA)
    Joe Manchin (D-WV)
    Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)
    Mark Warner (D-VA)
    Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI)

  988. Chicon says:

    Yeah, it’s not like there could be any abuses without warrants.

  989. jason says:

    Most dishonest headline of the month?

    ABC:

    “Texas cases up by thousands since reopening”

    Well yeah, so what.

    Texas (no total lockdown) deaths 1308
    New York (total lockdown) deaths 27704

    New York population 19.4 million
    Texas population 29 million

  990. Robbie says:

    Yesterday during his daily propaganda session, Comrade Andy Beshear said he can’t make decisions based on economic hardships. He can only make them based on health concerns. Apparently, America’s dumbest governors doesn’t realize that anxiety, depression, alcoholism, and suicide all stem from economic hardships. The man’s an idiot and Kentucky now has an unemployment rate over 30%, yet this is the tripe we get from him. And what has the response been from the state Republican Party? Crickets other than to say they will address Beshear’s overreaches when they are allowed to return in January. What point is there in having supermajorities in both chambers if the party is unwilling to use them?

  991. jason says:

    Amash drops out.

    Biden must have bought him off, maybe offered him Ambassador to Burkina Faso.

  992. jason says:

    Yeah, it’s not like there could be any abuses without warrants.”

    There can be abuses with warrants too.

    The way to curtail abuses is to prosecute them.

    It is not to unilaterally surrender surveillance.

    Ending FISA courts because of “abuses” is throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

  993. jason says:

    Or maybe the Libertarian Party came to its senses and realized Amash is not Libertarian.

  994. jason says:

    The Final Solution:

    Dr. Carol Baker, who has chaired the National Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices for the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), participated in a panel discussion sponsored by the National Meningitis Association on May 9 in New York City:

    “So I have the solution. Every study published in the last five years, when you look at vaccine refusers. I’m not talking about…well, hesitance, most of them we can talk into coming to terms. But refusers. We’ll just get rid of all the whites in the United States.”

  995. jason says:

    Benchmarks for today:

    IHME Projection: 1662 deaths

    May 9 deaths: 1422
    May 9 cases: 25524

  996. jason says:

    Phil is a lucky bastard.

    This could have happened yesterday, dammit.

    “New York City Health has reported a decrease of 254 probable COVID-19 deaths with respect to yesterday. The overall total death change for the state of New York for today is therefore negative”

  997. jason says:

    Worldometer seems almost disappointed:

    “We can only work with what they report, and this is what they report”

  998. MichiganGuy says:

    Boom! Number of Joe Biden’s Sexual Misconduct Allegations Rises to 10
    .
    With the new revelations about Joe Biden allegedly exposing himself to female Secret Service agents, on top of newly uncovered incidents of alleged unwanted and inappropriate touching…
    .
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/05/16/number-joe-bidens-sexual-misconduct-allegations-rises-10/

  999. Victrc says:

    With respect to Texas the reason for the increase in cases?

    Well. Could be the fact that they did 45,000+ tests yesterday, and 35,000+ the previous two days. Before they were averaging about 7-9,000 a day.

    Increased 5x over previous testing

    Also, of the cases yesterday 650 were in potter county. A small county in the panhandle which was 50% of their entire total to date previously.

  1000. jason says:

    The MSM is now targeting the governors of all the states (Republican) that are reopening.

    Yahoo has a “internal Trump administration report (obtained under condition to not divulge leaker) says hotspot in Florida Palm Beach County”

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  1001. Tina says:

    Justine Amess won’t run

    Quote Tweet

    Justin Amash
    @justinamash
    · 1h
    After much reflection, I’ve concluded that circumstances don’t lend themselves to my success as a candidate for president this year, and therefore I will not be a candidate.

  1002. Phil says:

    Yeah, the deal with Potter County (Amarillo) is they have a Tyson processing plant where there has been a large infection. They decided to test everyone connected to the plant all at once. It’s similar to the outbreak they had at the meat packing plant in SD last month. There, Governor Noem isolated things and took care of the problem. Same will happen here.

  1003. Tina says:

    Notice how proactive the governors of Florida and Texas are, in comparison to Wolifie and the Venthoarder

  1004. lisab says:

    kathmandu:

    The tweet of Beijing’s state-run media agency – China Global Television Network (CGTN) – on May 2 claiming that the Mount Everest is on its side of the border has drawn wide criticism in Nepal with the people reacting aggressively to the post.

  1005. jason says:

    After much reflection, I’ve concluded that circumstances don’t lend themselves to my success as a candidate for president this year, and therefore I will not be a candidate.”

    I understand. His chances of success were a lot greater when he announced.

  1006. jason says:

    They must have showed him a poll where he was taking more votes from Biden than Trump.

  1007. jason says:

    Tina says:
    May 16, 2020 at 3:15 pm

    Justine Amess won’t run”

    Sorry, I already posted that scoop in #1063.

    Oh wait, Amess…

  1008. jason says:

    “GREENVILLE, N.C. (AP) — A federal judge in North Carolina on Saturday sided with conservative Christian leaders and blocked the enforcement of restrictions that Gov. Roy Cooper ordered affecting indoor religious services during the coronavirus pandemic”

  1009. Tina says:

    McCarthy appears right here.

    There was no Flynn unmasking,

    There was illegal surveillance and, IMO, it goes straight to China Biden and the obumbler.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/05/michael-flynn-unmasking-real-story-is-when-he-was-not-masked-in-the-first-place/

  1010. Victrc says:

    450,000 tests yesterday

    700,000 tests today!!!

    1.15M in two days
    3M tests this week

    So yeah…tests are becoming the new ventilators. We don’t hear about them anymore do we?

  1011. Tina says:

    Ventilator, ventilator ventilator is still an issue.

    One Russia. One used in Krapistan blew up. So, according to the presstitute, it’s a problem here.

    Tests, tests, tests.

    Why are we competing against the world in testing wrote the presstitute that took off her mask after the presseR?

  1012. jason says:

    The moving goal posts on tests are hilarious.

    I saw one “expert now saying 24 million a day are needed.

    Soon it will be unless everyone can have 3 tests a day we won’t be able to reopen anything.

  1013. Tina says:

    Santa Xlara County

    No vaccine, no reopening.

  1014. Victrc says:

    And when the vaccine comes then it won’t be reopening until everyone is vaccinated and registered in the system

  1015. Tina says:

    Yup no trump,rally’s

    Quote Tweet

    LORI HENDRY TEXT TRUMP TO 88022
    @Lrihendry
    · Apr 30
    Having a 10 person limit for gatherings is not fair.

    That means Biden can hold his rallies but .@realDonaldTrump can’t!

  1016. Tina says:

    See new Tweets
    Conversation

    Breitbart News
    @BreitbartNews
    Rep. Maxine Waters: “I want black people, my people, to keep your ass at home, and don’t be out on the street.”

    Maxine Waters on Lockdowns: ‘Keep Your A** at Home’
    Waters urged people to “keep your ass at home” and wear a mask upon leaving your home to prevent the spread of the coronavirus.
    breitbart.com

  1017. Tina says:

    Charlie Kirk
    @charliekirk11
    ·
    May 14
    Leftist logic:

    CNN said Dr. Rand Paul wasn’t qualified enough to question Fauci in the senate

    …And then named Greta Thunberg to their coronavirus “expert” panel

  1018. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1057. Its begun. Now the lead for Garcia in CA_25 is reduced to just 55/45. Still 18% of precincts to report. Its not over.

    Garcia is being sworn in on Tuesday; his opponent conceded. !00% of the precincts have reported; mailed ballots had to be received by yesterday.

  1019. dblaikie says:

    Today South Carolina and Georgia had a combined total of four fatalities. Both states are open. Worst hit blue state power hungry Governors.

  1020. Marco Rubio says:

    Nanthy Pelothy can thuck my dick!

    Thank you for your thupport, my fwiends!

  1021. janz says:

    SanDiego, glad to hear that Garcia’s win is finalized.

  1022. jason says:

    U.S. District Court Judge James C. Dever:

    “There is no pandemic exception to the Constitution of the United States or the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment.”

  1023. jason says:

    I hope there is a challenge to Pelosi’s “vote by proxy” bill.

    I find it hard to believe that it is constitutional for 1 congressman to have 10 votes by “proxy”.

  1024. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    In California the recent all mail-in ballot election might have helped the Republicans, and might likewise do so in the future.

    +Republicans can reach their voters through social and mass media, and encourage them to vote by mail, and do the same with independent voters. A lot of older voters who cannot get to the polls on election day, and vote Republican, would find it easier to vote — not having to go throught the process of obtaining an absentee ballot.

    +The Democratic ballot harvesting operation would be damaged. Rather than have someone pick up their ballot (and potential know how they voted), a Democrat who wanted to vote for Republican candidate(s) can just mail their ballot in using the postage prepaid envelope. There is no point giving a ballot to a ballot harvester when you can put it in the mail yourself.

    It would not surprise me if Democrats start to oppose all mail elections in the future.

  1025. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1098. Given the ease of use of mail-in ballots, and the potential of undue influence over a voter when there is ballot harvesting – it makes sense that ballot harvesting be banned in mail-in ballot elections.

  1026. Phil says:

    850,000 tests today….up from 650,000 yesterday….500,000 the day before.

    4 wks ago it was an average of between 130 and 140K

    Prediction: It’s not enough progress for Democrats.

  1027. jason says:

    89,596 deaths

    NY+NJ+IL+MA+CA+PA+MI

    60251

    67%

  1028. jason says:

    When it was 140k a day the NYT thought it should be tripled. I am sure the goalposts have moved, that was April 17.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/04/17/us/coronavirus-testing-states.html

  1029. jason says:

    These people are beyond shameless.

    “In a report titled “Roadmap to Pandemic Resilience,” released on Monday morning, a blue-ribbon panel of thought leaders across the political spectrum called COVID-19 “a profound threat to our democracy, comparable to the Great Depression and World War II.”

    Test producers will need to deliver 5 milliond tests per day by early June to safely open parts of the economy by late July, according to the report. To “fully re-mobilize the economy,” the country will need to see testing grow to 20 million a day, the report suggests.

    “We acknowledge that even this number may not be high enough,” according to the report.

    Some experts, including Nobel laureate economist Paul Romer, who did not assist in the report but has a similar approach, estimate the country may need more than 30 million tests per day.”

  1030. jason says:

    Blue ribbon panel of “thought leaders” across the political spectrum.

    You can’t make this sh-t up.

  1031. Robbie says:

    When I see test totals as high as they are today, I get the sense some of it is clearing a backlog. Maybe I’m wrong though.

    I have noticed this week Pritzker and Newsom have really upped their case counts. They saw how detrimental that 18,000 case day was to their cause.

  1032. jason says:

    We really need to obey the “thought leaders”.

  1033. jason says:

    Even at 2k cases a day Newsome can’t do very much from a “scare standpoint”.

    CA has 82 deaths per 1M/population, NY has 1417, a rate 17 times higher.

  1034. Tina says:

    Breitbart News
    @BreitbartNews
    ·
    7h
    Secretary of State
    @MikePompeo
    told Breitbart News that President Donald Trump is “committed” to holding the Chinese Communist Party accountable for the coronavirus pandemic and will be considering options on how to do so in the near future.

  1035. jason says:

    NY managed to come up with 3 deaths at the buzzer.

  1036. Robbie says:

    I hadn’t checked the RCP job approval rating for Trump in a while, but it stands at 46.2% today. Considering all of the stuff that’s happened, that’s reasonably good. That’s especially true since he’s spent so much of his first term around 43%. I’ve always felt if he got above 47% in the RCP average, he had a decent shot at winning. I still think Biden has the edge, but Trump has the benefit of news on his side. If he can announce a therapeutic cure or a vaccine September or early October, it can have a big effect.

  1037. jason says:

    So they put 172 deaths back for NY at 9:18 PM.

    Unbelievable.

    IHME Model
    Projected Actual
    May 1 2343 1897 – 446
    May 2 2276 1691 – 585
    May 3 2265 1153 -1112
    May 4 2205 1324 – 881
    May 5 2180 2350 + 170
    May 6 2143 2528 + 385
    May 7 2097 2129 + 32
    May 8 2039 1687 – 352
    May 9 1971 1422 – 549
    May10 1921 750 – 1171
    May11 1898 1008 – 890
    May12 1803 1630 – 173
    May13 1774 1772 – 2
    May14 1740 1715 – 35
    May15 1703 1595 – 108
    May16 1662 1218 – 444

    May 14 cases 23488
    May 14 deaths 1218

    May 9 deaths: 1422
    May 9 cases: 25524

  1038. jason says:

    Since May 1 the IHME projection is over by 6161 deaths.

    Let’s see if the total projection changes at the next update, should be on Monday.

  1039. jason says:

    ’ve always felt if he got above 47% in the RCP average, he had a decent shot at winning.”

    Nah, for a long time you were at 45%.

    But that was when Trump was in the high 30’s.

  1040. Phil says:

    So NY, NJ, Ill, Ca, Ma, Pa, Mich are at 67% of all deaths?

    I’ve changed my mind again. Nuke the MFs. Nuke em til they glow.

    Those states are beyond help as long as guys like Cuomo, Wolf, Illinois fats and Michigan nitwit are running up the numbers. Blue states are worthless.

    This country needs to formally split in two.

    So someone picks up the phone in NY, makes a phone call and presto, a magical 180 dead bodies suddenly show up? Well, numbers show up anyway. Probably are not any bodies.

    You can’t make this sh*t up.

  1041. Phil says:

    What’s the IHME model number for Sunday?

    Wolf wants to know so he can start fixing the numbers.

  1042. SanDiegoCitizen says:

    1114. The lesson to be learned from this is your chances of dying of CORVID-19 are much higher if you have a Democratic governor. Elections have consequences.

  1043. Tina says:

    Nu thread

  1044. Big E says:

    One of the main reasons testing has gone up is because elective procedures are now being done. The requirement to get the elective procedure is to be Covid negative. The testing location near my work has seen a 25 fold increase in testing since Gov Abbott allowed these procedures to move forward. There is also increased testing of medical professionals.