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    Biden Either Leads Dems in IA or is in 4th Place, It Depends on Who is Asking.

    The polling in Iowa seems to be all over the place as today we get two new polls from two universities, one in-state from Iowa State University and one from out-of-state Monmouth University.

    PRESIDENT – IOWA – DEM CAUCUS (Monmouth)
    Joe Biden 23%
    Bernie Sanders 21%
    Pete Buttigieg 17%
    Elizabeth Warren 15%
    Amy Klobuchar 10%
    Tom Steyer 4%
    Andrew Yang 3%
    Everyone Else 1% or less

    PRESIDENT – IOWA – DEM CAUCUS (ISU)
    Bernie Sanders 24%
    Elizabeth Warren 19%
    Pete Buttigieg 17%
    Joe Biden 15%
    Amy Klobuchar 11%
    Andrew Yang 5%
    Tom Steyer 4%
    Tulsi Gabbard 2%
    Everyone Else 1% or less

    Both polls were done January 23-27 among 544 likely caucus goers from Monmouth and 655 likely caucus goers from Iowa State University.

    Posted by Dave at 9:50 pm
    Filed under: General | Comments (610)

    610 Responses to “Biden Either Leads Dems in IA or is in 4th Place, It Depends on Who is Asking.”

    1. jason says:

      Bernie!

    2. Skippy says:

      Skippy warned you all 1 week ago about Klobmentum.

      Skippy told you all Klobmentum was going to get 15% of the precinct delegates on Iowa Caucus night.

      It’s happening.

      Skippy says goodnight.

    3. Tina says:

      Souter 2.0 strikes again:

      Sean Davis
      @seanmdav
      ·
      6m
      Earlier today, Chief Justice John Roberts refused to read a question from Sen. Rand Paul that named the anti-Trump whistleblower. Sources say Roberts, at Democrats’ urging, had previously vowed to ban any questions about the whistleblower whatsoever, named or not. Developing…

    4. jason says:

      Well, Klobuchar doesn’t have 15% in either poll.

    5. Tgca says:

      Cinco Bebe! Cinco!

    6. jason says:

      Zero Rs to vote to convict at 82% at Predictit.

    7. Phil says:

      Only 82%? I guess 18% still holding out hope for Romney. I guess considering what a POS Mitt is you should never count him out.

      BTW, did you know Mitt is the leader of the REAL Republican Party?

    8. jason says:

      Mitt to vote to convict is at 23%.

      So bettors think it is likely he will vote to acquit too.

    9. jason says:

      Maybe Biden is the safer opponent…

      “Later, Biden appeared to suggest that an admitted foreign national could run for president and beat Trump.

      “I think you could beat him,” Biden said to the man.

      The man responded, “I don’t think I could, I’m not an American citizen.”

      Biden responded, “Well, you might be able to, who knows.”

    10. jason says:

      Scumbag Romney gets what he wants.

      His picture on Drudge and a big headline.

    11. Phil says:

      Mitt will vote to acquit, but then spend twenty minutes In front of reporters asking the MSM to forgive him and then going on about ‘how wrong Trump’s phone call was, but just not impeachable”. Book it. I know this turd.

    12. lisab says:

      i don’t think romney would vote to convict alone

      i think he will wait until the other two vote and then vote to convict only if they also vote to convict first

      if three or more vote to convict, i think romney will definitely convict

    13. Phil says:

      If Romney is counting on cover from other Republican senators to be able to vote guilty he’s out of luck. There is zero chance any other Republican Senator votes guilty. Plus, there will be at least one Democrat voting to acquit in Manchin and with a 50-50 chance that there is at least one more voting no guilty on at least one of the other two articles. If Romney votes to convict he’s going to be very lonely.

      My prediction of 54-46 or even 55-45 looks pretty good now. Of course I need to be right at least once after my massive failure predicting Kamala Harris winning the Democratic nomination. Epic failure on my part.

    14. lisab says:

      House Democrats Release $760 Billion Green Infrastructure Plan

      $760 Billion Green Infrastructure Plan released. The “Moving Forward Framework” would invest $329 billion in transportation systems, $105 billion for transit agencies and maintenance, $55 billion in railways including Amtrak, $21.4 billion to ensure clean drinking water

    15. lisab says:

      i cannot see romney having the guts to stand alone

    16. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      No wonder the trolls have gone into hiding — even Chris Matthews thinks Trump may be re-elected:

      “MSNBC host Chris Matthews claimed that President Trump has a “good shot” at being re-elected on Wednesday evening.

      During the network’s impeachment coverage, Matthews took a moment to “put it all together” between the ongoing Senate trial and the 2020 presidential race, pointing to the recent surge of Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., in the latest polls out of Iowa and New Hampshire.

      “Bernie’s rising. Bernie’s gonna do very well — I’ve been saying this for two weeks. He’s gonna win the first couple. He’s rising,” Matthews began. “That’s telling the Republicans they’ve got a good shot at re-electing this president whether they like him or not. They’re facing a future of hell if they go to war with Trump right now.”

      The “Hardball” host then pointed to the “20,000 people” who attended Trump’s rally in Wildwood, New Jersey, on Tuesday night, which he called “some incredible show.””

    17. lisab says:

      Klobuchar Called On To Suspend Campaign As Questions Swirl Around Myon Burrell Case

      Members of Black Lives Matter Twin Cities, Minneapolis NAACP, Communities United Against Police Brutality and other groups held a news conference Wednesday morning, calling for Klobuchar to suspend her campaign and focus on social justice in the Twin Cities. They say because Klobuchar was the first prosecutor and because she has brought it up on the campaign trail, she should step aside.

      “We are here today to call on Amy Klobuchar to immediately end her campaign for president,” Nekima Levy Armstrong said.

      Burrell, now in his thirties, is still behind bars and maintains his innocence. He’s rejected all plea deals. His father, Michael Toussaint, also blames Klobuchar.

    18. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Romney better watch his back:

      “SALT LAKE CITY — A Utah lawmaker has filed a bill to allow Utahns to recall an elected United States senator.
      The lawmaker, Rep. Tim Quinn, R-Heber City, told the Deseret News in an interview Wednesday shortly after the bill was made public that it’s not meant to target any specific sitting Utah senator — but it comes amid heightened national attention on Sen. Mitt Romney, who has been among the few Republican senators publicly critical of President Donald Trump.”

    19. lisab says:

      so even the vp choices are getting problematic

      buttigieg and klobuchar are both turnoffs to the black vote, and therefore cannot be vp

      cory booker is a fool

      warren is a liar

      and kamala harris is a whoah

    20. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      One final poll from Utah.

      Hillary Clinton was in Park City, Utah at the premiere of her documentary “Hillary.”

      “A new Deseret News/Hinckley Institute of Politics poll shows 53% of Utah residents say the United States would be worse off if Clinton occupied the White House instead of Trump. Only 24% say the country would be better, while 13% don’t think things would be much different.”

      By the way, polls by the Hinckley Institute of Politics tend to have a liberal bias.

    21. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      20. “and kamala harris is a whoah.”

      Exactly what the Democrats are looking for. She got the VP slot in the bag.

    22. PresidentPaul! says:

      I expect Tesla to get a Bernie bounce on Tuesday after Iowa since he will try to bankrupt ICE auto companies as well as oil and gas along with subsidizing Tesla.

    23. PresidentPaul! says:

      What they should do doesn’t matter just what they do.

    24. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      23. I realize you may not have a total grip on reality; but electric cars run on electricity that is produced by fossil fuels that the oil and gas companies produce. Electricity production in the U.S. in 2020 is expected to be generated:

      39% natural gas
      22% coal
      20% nuclear
      7% hydro
      a little over 1% will be solar

      Am sure Ron Paul and his son are not great fans of providing government subsidies to Tesla (according to the LA Times, they have totaled about $5 billion dollars), so you might consider changing your screen name.

    25. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      As a good Bolshevik, am sure Sanders will be happy to continue to provide subsidies to high income Tesla buyers:

      “According to Prenzler’s study, Tesla owners make around $271,000 a year on average. TMC survey (informal) suggested 140-300K.”

    26. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Tesla received a 1.3 billion subsidy package from Nevada to built their battery plan near Reno, and then fell delinquent in their unemployment and payroll taxes:

      “Conservative opponents of selective tax breaks weren’t the only critics. Former Sen. Sheila Leslie, D-Reno, also took issue with the company’s late payment.
      “For them not to pay their unemployment taxes, their payroll taxes, so disrespectful after all they’ve been given,” said Leslie, who was among the more liberal members of the Democratic caucus during her time in office. “It is just proof of that adage, it is never enough, they are always going to want more.”

      https://www.rgj.com/story/news/2018/10/15/teslas-california-tax-error-rankles-subsidy-critics/1643802002/

    27. Tgca says:

      VEINTI OCHO!

    28. jason says:

      “BetMGM didn’t want to move the Super Bowl LIV line. But money talks.

      And it was a lot of money that moved the betting line. Jeff Stoneback, director of trading operations for MGM Resorts International, said a bettor put $550,000 on the Chiefs as a 1-point favorite to win $500,000.

      And with that, MGM moved the line to the Chiefs being a 1.5-point favorite over the San Francisco 49ers.”

      Ok, I admit it was me.

      If the Chiefs win and Bitter comes here to say “jason hardest hit” I will say, huh, not quite.

    29. Big Joe says:

      “Biden Either Leads Dems in IA or is in 4th Place, It Depends on Who is Asking.”

      😀 😀 😀 😀 Great title, Dave. Let’s vote already.

      Big Joe

    30. jason says:

      I am trying to think if there are any posts that I am less interested in than Bunu’s Tesla/Gold/War Crimes nonsense.

      Hmmm….. no.

    31. jason says:

      I would drive to IA to vote for Bernie if I could.

    32. DW says:

      jason, I am still waiting to decide on which dem I will vote for in the Virginia Primary. Much will depend on who drops out and therefore what the status of the race is by Super Tuesday. I still wrestle with which candidate would be the easiest out in the general election.

    33. dblaikie says:

      Me too Jason. I feel the burn for Bernie.

    34. jason says:

      I could register as a Dem in time to vote in the Dem primary here in PA I think.

      Or as an R to try to stop Corey’s candidate Joe Walsh from winning the R nomination, according to Corey he has a lot of momentum.

    35. dblaikie says:

      But when I do vote in the SC primary I will vote for Yang. He needs to be rewarded for supporting Nuclear power!

    36. jason says:

      Even a moron like Rand Paul finds an acorn once in awhile.

      Don’t like the mixed metaphor? GFY.

      “Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., gave voice to GOP pique about Bolton’s revelations in an interview with Fox News. He said Bolton had long argued for expansive executive powers to protect a president’s conversations with his advisers but “now he’s going to argue that no, no, no, now that I have a book deal for a couple of million bucks, that it’s OK for me to say and spill the beans on everything the president’s said to me privately.”

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    38. jason says:

      Pravda would be proud.

      “MSNBC cut to a commercial break as soon as President Trump’s legal defense team took the microphone to answer a question about how the Framers would view partisan impeachment.

      Reading a question from Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) and some of his colleagues, Chief Justice John Roberts said: “How would the Framers view removing a president without an overwhelming consensus of the American people and on the basis of articles of impeachment supported by one political party and opposed by the other?”

    39. rich_polaris says:

      wonder what the margin of error is for monmouh vs isu?

    40. DW says:

      its extremely easy in VA where there is no party registration. When I walk up to the table, they will ask me if I want the GOP ballot or the Dem ballot.

      I will ask for the Dem ballot to try and do as much damage to them as I can. I am open to hear your arguments as to which candidate would be the easiest out in the general election.

    41. jason says:

      Polaris got rich?

      Who knew?

    42. jason says:

      Game. Set. Match:

      “Sekulow: “After 31 or 32 times you said you proved every aspect of your case… [pauses for response] That’s what you said.”

      Schiff: “We did.”

      Sekulow: “Well then I don’t think we need any witnesses.”

    43. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #41- DW
      Warren! She’s unlikable with lots of baggage.

    44. jason says:

      “Jill Biden plays to tens next to pool table in Des Moines gay bar”

      She told the small gathering that “this is my first time in a gay bar”!

      I am sure the gay patrons were impressed.

    45. jason says:

      Bernie at 62% odds to win IA. Biden 29%.

    46. DW says:

      Sheep, I would agree on Warren, but I expect she will have dropped out by Super Tuesday. My guess is that by that date its going to be down to Biden, Sanders, Bloomberg and 1 also-ran candidate. The others will all be out.

    47. PresidentPaul! says:

      If ppl think Bernie will win, they would have to be a fool to be paying anything on their student loans.

      In fact maybe they should be leveraging up with more student loans so they can buy crypto with the money.

    48. Poul Harris says:

      I am the real Poul Harris.

      – Poul Harris

    49. jason says:

      I have an idea most people voting for Bernie don’t actually think he will be President.

    50. DW says:

      I actually know someone who took out the subsidized loans to the max. This is the loan that doesn’t have any interest that starts until 6 months after ending being a full time student. The student in question has the money to pay the costs of college but took out the full loans as an investing hedge, just in case Sanders wins the election and wipes it all out. Would be stupid not to take out the loans.

    51. PresidentPaul! says:

      Elon explains the TESLA flamethrower

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfqtKPP2_6M

    52. Bitterlaw says:

      New PA poll

      https://lancasteronline.com/news/local/f-m-poll-of-pennsylvania-voters-oppose-trump-re-election/article_9fe8187a-42de-11ea-9225-475f7890b0aa.html

      The bad news is 57% want Trump re-elected. The good news is that it was 59% a few months ago.

    53. Bitterlaw says:

      Oops. 57% do NOT want Trump re-elected.

    54. Tina says:

      Does Cross Fire Hurricane ring a bell?

      Phil Kerpen
      @kerpen
      · 19h
      Shorter Schiff: No matter how corrupt you are, if you file to run for president you can’t be investigated by anyone

    55. Tina says:

      Souter 2.0 supports the drats and censures Rand from naming the gossip blower.

      Byron York
      @ByronYork
      · 2h
      The Rand Paul-John Roberts fight over whistleblower identity stems from one basic fact: Democrats are demanding Senate remove the president but insisting that precise origins of impeachment inquiry remain secret. Astonishingly brazen. Roberts supports. http://ow.ly/Bqgo50y8XLD

    56. Big Joe says:

      Commentary on Bernie seems very similar to commentary on Trump in 2016. Not saying anything other than it’s becoming eerily weird 😀

      Big Joe

    57. Bitterlaw says:

      Roberts is a conservative. He made a bad decision on Obamacare. Both can be true.

    58. jason says:

      Big Joe has a point. The comments are similar.

      Still, I think Bernie is more of a McGovern or a Mondale than a Trump.

    59. jason says:

      Also, not wanting Trump re-elected doesn’t mean wants x, y or z on the Dem side elected.

    60. jason says:

      “Roberts is a conservative. He made a bad decision on Obamacare. Both can be true.”

      Yep, he is no Souter 2.0.

    61. jason says:

      I actually liked Paul’s comment on the issue, I even posted it above.

      Having said that, I am not sure a big fight over the whistleblower is what we want.

      Ideally, tomorrow the Senate votes to bar witnesses, Saturday they acquit Trump, and we move on.

      Anything that is a distraction to that goal should not be entertained.

    62. Phil says:

      My guess is the Trump “do not want to elect” number in Pennsylvania was well above 50% in 2016. Same in Michigan and same in Wisconsin. In fact, I’d wager he ran better than whatever that number was in just about every state.

      Democrats should gain comfort at that 57% number at their own peril.

    63. Chicon says:

      Bitter, I’d add “judicial” to conservative. He’s a judicial conservative a high percentage of the time, and certainly nothing close to Souter. Not sure – and don’t care – if he’s a political conservative.

    64. Phil says:

      Agree that we should now just get this over by the weekend. Now if Democrats somehow got enough votes to call three or four of their witnesses then yeah, don’t just limit our witnesses to Hunter. In that case then hell yeah, bring on the whistleblower….but there is virtually little or no chance Democrats have the votes to get even one witness, let alone multiple.

      One thing, however – wouldn’t be surprised and even expect one more “bombshell” to be released today or tomorrow to try and change the witness vote tomorrow. We’ve seen this script before, have we not?

    65. PresidentPaul! says:

      Corona is proving once and for all that the Trumpers are racist.

      “Racist” Video Shows Commuters Covering Their Faces Near Chinese Woman in twitter controversy.

    66. lisab says:

      And with that, MGM moved the line to the Chiefs being a 1.5-point favorite over the San Francisco 49ers.”

      Ok, I admit it was me.
      ————————————

      jason … you are agreeing with corey

      maybe you should lay off some of that bet

    67. lisab says:

      Activists call on Amy Klobuchar to suspend her campaign as it turns out she may have imprisoned an innocent teenager.

    68. lisab says:

      Joe Biden, Hunter Biden named as Defendants in Ukrainian Court Criminal Complaint by Ukrainian Prosecutor Shokin Filed on January 28, 2020

    69. lisab says:

      regarding romney and his willingness to shill for the democrats in exchange for media attention

      vs.

      what his constituents want.

      i’ve done the math … i don’t think he gives a fk

    70. John says:

      Looks like Democrat candidate Mike Bloomberg is paying $11 million for a 60 ad during the Super Bowl on Sunday.
      As I gather President Trump is going to be interviewed by Fox’s Sean Hannity just prior to the kickoff to tout his achievements meaning Trump another perhaps $500-600 million in free advertising.
      Nice.

    71. DW says:

      Bloomberg graduated magna-cum-laude from the Jeb Bush School of Wasteful Campaign Spending

    72. Skippy says:

      Lisab,

      You sure are leaving out a lot of the Klobuchar, “she may have imprisoned an innocent teenager” story.

      This “innocent” teenager’s case was reviewed long after Klobuchar left her office as Hennipen County prosecutor and it concluded that the teenager was guilty…same result.

      This is just another example of how Democrats/Liberals eat their own in their constant search for purity in their hellacious environment of identity and grievance politics.

    73. Tina says:

      Souter 2.0 again denies Rand Paul.

      I guess knowing “all the facts” is not a criteria.

    74. Tina says:

      This was the question denied by Souter 2.0

      RP: “My question today is about whether or not individuals who were holdovers from the Obama National Security Council and Democrat partisans conspired with Schiff staffers to plot impeaching the President before there were formal House impeachment proceedings.”

    75. Hugh says:

      Roberts behavior guarantees that republicans will not risk agreeing to witnesses since Roberts cannot be trusted to allow republican witnesses

    76. DW says:

      Roberts cannot be trusted at all. Apparently he thinks one is guilty unless he can prove he is innocent, and prove it without being allowed any witnesses. Leonid Brezhnev would be proud.

    77. BayernFan says:

      https://apnews.com/4daf1b154eeff75b97b886e2fe8c1d29

      On the verge of the first votes being cast in a primary contest with no clear leader, 66% of Democrats report anxiety about the election, compared with 46% of Republicans. Democrats are also more likely to feel frustration. Republicans, meanwhile, are more likely than Democrats to declare excitement about the race, and the share of enthusiastic Republicans appears to be rising.

    78. Bitterlaw says:

      Absent an offer of proof, the question in 77 is prejudicial and speculative. I would not allow it either.

    79. NYCmike says:

      “Bloomberg graduated magna-cum-laude from the Jeb Bush School of Wasteful Campaign Spending”

      -Trump should thank Bloomberg for doing his part in making sure the American economy continues to expand, helping his re-election bid.

    80. Tina says:

      Roberts must know that Ec is the gossip blower.

      Why did he allow questions with Hunter Biden’s name mentioned?

    81. Tina says:

      Maybe in a real court, but not here.

      Bitterlaw says:
      January 30, 2020 at 1:56 pm
      Absent an offer of proof, the question in 77 is prejudicial and speculative. I would not allow it either.

    82. Tina says:

      ALX ??
      @alx
      · 25m
      How does Chief Justice Roberts know the identity of the Whistleblower but Adam Schiff claims he doesn’t?

    83. jason says:

      I agree with Bitter. That is a grandstanding question, its only objective is to promote Rand Paul than actually assist in the process.

      If he was serious, he would have mentioned a specific case of alleged “conspiracy”, an alleged meeting, a corroborating statement of some kind.

      Absent that, he is just engaging in the same kind of speculation the House managers are engaged in when trying to assign motives to Trump’s actions.

    84. NYCmike says:

      One more reason to make sure Trump gets re-elected: make sure we get 1-2 more justices like Gorsuch so that there are more options when trying to attain the 5th vote.

    85. Tina says:

      Souter 2.0 purposefully ousted the gossip blower.

      Eric Ciambella is the gossip blower.

    86. Tina says:

      It’s a relevant question. It names holdovers, not whistleblowers, and is the missing (18th) testimony. It has Ig Atkinson in it.

      It’s fair game. Goes to motive and intent of the holdovers.

    87. NYCmike says:

      “Absent an offer of proof, the question in 77 is prejudicial and speculative. I would not allow it either.”

      https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1222958195179769861

      -Bitterlaw, and Chief Justice Roberts, seem to pick “certain” moments to speak about “prejudicial and speculative”.

    88. Tina says:

      Piglosi cancels SOTU.

      SHE IS A PSYCHO PATH.

      Take away her plane.

    89. Tina says:

      And, why is Souter 2.0 allowing questions about the Russian hoax? It’s a resolved matter.

    90. Tina says:

      Souter 2.0 is a disgrace

      Bryan Dean Wright
      @BryanDeanWright
      ·
      50m
      America is being told that a CIA officer with documented political bias who lied on his whistleblower complaint to kick of the impeachment of a duly elected president is somehow beyond questioning.
      Quote Tweet

    91. NYCmike says:

      SOTU is cancelled??

      Seriously?

      I was hoping to avoid taking any sleeping pills that night!

    92. jason says:

      It’s a relevant question. ”

      No it is not.

      Rand Paul is trying to pull the same garbage the House Managers are doing.

      He should ask questions such as “in Atkinson’s unreleased testimony, how does he describe the process by which the whistleblower interacted with the House Intelligence Committee staff”.

      “whether or not individuals who were holdovers from the Obama National Security Council and Democrat partisans conspired with Schiff staffers”

      Zzzzzz… that is speculative trash. Who were the holdovers? What Democrat partisans?

      This was not a question. It was a “look at me, I am Rand Paul and I want to be on TV” statement.

    93. Phil says:

      Pelosi cancelling the SOTU? On what basis exactly? This ought to be good.

    94. jason says:

      Bitterlaw, and Chief Justice Roberts, seem to pick “certain” moments to speak about “prejudicial and speculative”.

      Probably because they understand what it means a lot more than you do.

    95. NYCmike says:

      jason says:
      January 30, 2020 at 11:09 am

      “I actually liked Paul’s comment on the issue, I even posted it above.”

      jason A-hole,

      which comment of Rand Paul’s did you refer to in your comment earlier?

    96. jason says:

      Looks like Skippy is already making excuses for Klobuchar.

      I remember the last time Skippy had a “sure thing”. Some SCOTUS pick was “already on the tarmac waiting for a flight to DC”, done deal.

      Skippy, who do you think will win the 7th race at Penn National tonight? It’s always good to eliminate at least one horse from contention.

    97. NYCmike says:

      “Probably because they understand what it means a lot more than you do.”

      -Oh yeah, justices and lawyers are “much more smart” than anyone, and they definitely are like totally impartial in everything they do.

      They can read “penumbras” and the rest of the masses are unable to.

    98. jason says:

      which comment of Rand Paul’s did you refer to in your comment earlier?”

      Post 37 I believe:

      “Even a moron like Rand Paul finds an acorn once in awhile.

      Don’t like the mixed metaphor? GFY.

      “Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., gave voice to GOP pique about Bolton’s revelations in an interview with Fox News. He said Bolton had long argued for expansive executive powers to protect a president’s conversations with his advisers but “now he’s going to argue that no, no, no, now that I have a book deal for a couple of million bucks, that it’s OK for me to say and spill the beans on everything the president’s said to me privately.”

    99. GF says:

      SOTU isn’t cancelled…yet (that I know of). But the Boston Globe and arsehat John Brennan have suggested that it ought to be.

      It’s a shame to see how Mitt has gone downhill; he was a neighbor of mine in La Jolla for seven years, he and Ann were just lovely people in an area full of entitled and unpleasant cranks (irrespective of party affiliation, those folks are just awful).

    100. jason says:

      I give credit where it is due. I think he made a good point.

      Sue me or GFY.

    101. jason says:

      -Oh yeah, justices and lawyers are “much more smart” than anyone, and they definitely are like totally impartial in everything they do.”

      Nobody said they were impartial.

      What I said is they understand what “speculative and prejudicial” means a lot better than you do.

      GFY.

    102. NYCmike says:

      Got it, thanks.

    103. jason says:

      “America is being told that a CIA officer with documented political bias who lied on his whistleblower complaint to kick of the impeachment of a duly elected president is somehow beyond questioning.”

      BS. In the first place, the question was not addressed to the whistleblower.

      I will have no problem if they fire him and/or throw him in jail for false statements, perjury, or whatever.

      Rand Paul’s question still should have been denied.

      Both can be true.

    104. Phil says:

      So the latest spin from the MSM is that we’re looking at a 50-50 tie and Roberts will assert himself into the process and break the tie in Schumer and Schiff’s favor. Then, in this fairy tale, Robert’s only allows Bolton to testify and excludes Hunter Biden.

      Sound about right? Chuck Todd thinks this is a real possibility.

      Lol

    105. NYCmike says:

      “It’s a shame to see how Mitt has gone downhill;”

      -Agreed.

      Leading up to the 2012 election, I had liked him more and more……then, it became pretty clear that he doesn’t have enough fight in him to defeat the Democrats.

      NOW, he has just rolled over like their biatch!

    106. jason says:

      It’s a shame to see how Mitt has gone downhill;”

      Yep, he got seduced by the likes of that Maddow mermaid, ready to shower him with accolades if he only would dump on Trump. The fact she and the MSM despise him and will discard him like a soiled diaper is irrelevant to him. Give me the bright lights and the applause now!

      The sad thing is, he didn’t fall off the turnip truck yesterday. He should know better.

    107. Phil says:

      Democrats don’t have the votes.

      Therefore, Democrat Senator to introduce a motion to have Roberts be the decider on witnesses.

      This never ends, does it.

    108. jason says:

      From what I know, a 50-50 vote is not a tie, the motion fails.

      I doubt Roberts will/wants/can change that.

    109. lisab says:

      You sure are leaving out a lot of the Klobuchar, “she may have imprisoned an innocent teenager” story.
      —————————-

      i was only quoting a post from reddit politics

      i assume there is not much there

    110. lisab says:

      Apparently he thinks one is guilty unless he can prove he is innocent, and prove it without being allowed any witnesses.
      —————————-

      nah … he just does not like trump

    111. Tina says:

      Update It should have been a question as to SOTU is canceled?

      I think it is still on.

      Found nowhere else reporting this.

    112. jason says:

      Ma, no bites yet.

    113. Tina says:

      Pierre and Souter should get a room.

    114. Phil says:

      Jason, agree….. but the strategy is designed to have the squishes vote for the motion in the “name of fairness”

      Pretty sure Roberts doesn’t in any way want that thrown in his lap and will somehow signal that to Murkowski and company.

      It will just end up being another vote designed to portray the Republicans as unreasonable and have that amplified to the public by their MSM stooges.

    115. Tina says:

      Shem Horne
      @Shem_Infinite
      ·
      25m
      Pat Cipollone calls out Adam Schiff and says that he has learned that whenever Schiff says a witness is irrelevant it only means that the witness is bad for the Democrats lol.

    116. lisab says:

      pretty sure romney is just being a pain because he does not like trump

      not really for the publicity

    117. lisab says:

      the sotu will be given, it is required

      it just might not be in the house

    118. jason says:

      Romney wants to be loved by the left wing media first and foremost.

      He knows Trump will not be convicted, so it is not about Trump. Last night he got his picture on Drudge and a headline, that is what he lives for.

      When he wrote that stupid self serving Op-Ed trashing Trump, it was all about him.

    119. NYCmike says:

      #124 – I can’t disagree.

      A-Holes know a-holes.

    120. jason says:

      Blumenthal and Casey agree with me… a 50-50 tie fails.

      “I think the likelihood is — strong likelihood — is he would not break a tie and I would respect his position if he didn’t,” Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut said of the chief justice.
      Democratic Sen. Bob Casey of Pennsylvania said, “I’m assuming that on something that fundamental, he’s gonna make — he’ll have the Senate make the determination.”
      Asked then if a 50-50 vote would fail, Casey responded, “That’s my understanding.”

    121. jason says:

      A-Holes know a-holes.”

      Have we met?

    122. Phil says:

      At this point the Democrats are just using the witness vote as a talking point. Now that they know getting Bolton without Hunter is impossible they aren’t in favor of wanting more witnesses. They just can’t say so. This is done.

    123. NYCmike says:

      “Have we met?”

      -We’re tight!

    124. Tina says:

      They are re asking the gossip blower question. Let’s see how FISA Souter blocks the question.

    125. Hugh says:

      Dems getting crushed today. Worse than yesterday

    126. Tina says:

      Big error.

      Shem Horne
      @Shem_Infinite
      ·
      8m
      Woah Elizabeth Warrens question says Americans have lost faith in our government and asks if the Chief Justice presiding over this trial that may not allow witnesses will cause them to lose faith in the Chief Justice and the Supreme court. Big mistake. Huge.

    127. NYCmike says:

      Warren is odious.

      She might be able to give Hillary a real battle.

    128. Skippy says:

      Elizabeth Warren has some serious mental issues. A true nut job.

    129. Hugh says:

      Thank you Elizabeth. R they purposely sabotaging getting witnesses. The dems could not do worse then they r doing today

    130. Tina says:

      The house managers are getting mauled:

      Shem Horne
      @Shem_Infinite
      ·
      1m
      Sekulow “I guess you can buy foreign interference and it’s ok?” Lmao
      1
      13
      36
      Show this thread

      Shem Horne
      @Shem_Infinite
      ·
      2m
      Lmao the House Manager Jefferies just said Clinton hiring Steele wasn’t an issue cuz she paid him. You can’t make this up.

    131. Tina says:

      Likes
      Shem Horne’s Tweets

      Shem Horne
      @Shem_Infinite
      ·
      6m
      Sekulow “I guess you can buy foreign interference and it’s ok?” Lmao

    132. Victrc says:

      Schiff really is a piece of work. Wants witnesses but only ones he seems relevant.

      Wants to tell the Senate how to run the trial, make them do the investigation he wouldn’t

      Then has the audacity to berate Sen Johnson when confronted about his staff talking to the whistleblower

      He has no credibility, nor scruples

    133. PresidentPaul! says:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFR9ZcfFsDo

      Finance Media Finally Starting To Realize Tesla Has No Competition

      Joe Rogan famously said of his model 3 that it crushes his 1/2 million dollar porsche that quote “sounds like a dragon.” 0-60 in 3 seconds and even though top speeds is a weakness of EV’s it at least goes 162 mph.

    134. PresidentPaul! says:

      Joe Rogan’s New Tesla is Preposterous!

      Model 3 about two seconds faster than is 3000 lbs porsche

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8VmbxdbG7o

    135. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      @139. I am on my second Tesla now – you’re not going to try to hump my leg, are you?

    136. GF says:

      Seeing how laughable the Schiff show has been, this cover did not age well at all!

      https://www.lamag.com/issue/december-2019/

    137. Scooterboy says:

      I have a question.
      Some reports suggested that Adam Schiff asked Chief Justice Roberts to not disclose the identity of the Whistleblower during Senate questioning, even though Schiff states he doesn’t know who the whistleblower is.
      How did Justice Roberts know that Rand Paul’s question contained the whistleblowers name, if no one is supposed to know who he is?

    138. PresidentPaul! says:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4u5Ns4bdTYE&t=29s

      Deutsche Bank Suffers Catastrophic Losses

    139. lisab says:

      Democrats Warn That American People May Tamper With Next Election

    140. lisab says:

      Warren: ‘Bernie Once Told Me In Private That ‘The Princess Bride’ Is A Garbage Movie And Those Who Enjoy It Are Human Trash’

    141. lisab says:

      Elizabeth Warren Announces Her Presidency Will Include Free Year Of Disney+, ESPN, And Hulu

    142. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Unfortunately, Murkowski(R-AK) appears to be a YES for witnesses according to Sara Carter:

      Lisa Murkowski says
      @AmbJohnBolton
      dispute ‘weighs’ in favor of calling #witnesses.

      “Why should Senate not call Amb. Bolton?”

      Words cannot express how much I detest this woman!

    143. Hugh says:

      Not so fast on murkowski. Did you see the last question she was part of??

    144. Phil says:

      Ok then, that makes it 50-50 IF Alexander announce no to witnesses. He says he announces right after questions wrap up tonight – within the hour. If he surprises and says yes, we get Bolton. Will the four traitors then give us Hunter too? Yep, they have to give us 51-49 on Hunter although Murkowski and Romney cannot be counted on for anything. Alexander will definitely be a yes to Hunter and Collins doesn’t dare vote for Bolton and be a no on Hunter. Her base in Maine would walk in November.

      In that case we get Bolton AND Hunter. Then, does Schumer push for the other four

    145. Hugh says:

      Not so sure Phil. I have doubts now on murkowski

    146. Phil says:

      other three I should say….and if so does the Republican side get their other three? Who knows? We are talking Murkowski, Collins and Romney. How reliable are they? Not very.

    147. Phil says:

      Oh, believe me, I have zero faith in Murkowski. ZERO! She’s a snake. See Kavanaugh vote. That one was unbelievable.

    148. Hugh says:

      Different issue she is very pro abortion. In this case there is 0 political reason to vote for witnesses

    149. Tina says:

      No murkowski and Alexander asked assuming we get Bolton to testisfy..,, it’s still not impeachable.

      Mitchie looked very happy coming from dinner.

    150. jason says:

      “In January 1999, then-Sen. Joe Biden argued strongly against the need to depose additional witnesses or seek new evidence in a memo sent to fellow Democrats ahead of President Bill Clinton’s impeachment trial.

      Biden circulated the four-page document, titled “Arguments in Support of a Summary Impeachment Trial,” on Jan. 5, 1999. In his memo, obtained by POLITICO, Biden cited historical precedents from impeachment cases going back to the establishment of the Senate and asserted “The Senate need not hold a ‘full blown’ trial.

      “The Senate may dismiss articles of impeachment without holding a full trial or taking new evidence. Put another way, the Constitution does not impose on the Senate the duty to hold a trial,” Biden wrote at the time.

      The Delaware Democrat added later: “In a number of previous impeachment trials, the Senate has reached the judgment that its constitutional role as a sole trier of impeachments does not require it to take new evidence or hear live witness testimony.”

    151. Phil says:

      Hey, wonder what time tomorrow the Democrats release their final “surprise” bombshell? Notice I said when, not if it happens.

    152. dblaikie says:

      Lamar, bless his heart, is a no on witnesses.

    153. jason says:

      Looks like Alexander is no on witnesses.

    154. jason says:

      Dammit, dblaikie beat me by seconds…

    155. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Elizabeth Warren: “‘I’m going to have a Secretary of Education that this young trans person interviews on my behalf.’ “

      Warren’s poll numbers are falling, probably because voters are realizing see is a full-blown loon.

    156. Hugh says:

      Collins is traitor one. Romney number 2. However her best political move is to vote for witnesses then acquit. Not sure what murkowski and Romney get out of calling for witnesses. Lamar is no so unless murkowski votes yes and Roberts inserts himself it’s over.

    157. Proud Obamacon says:

      Thank you Alexander!! Yall had me worried there for a while . whew!

      Now you will go down as the party that conspired with the defendant, refused to hear testimony, and fixed the trial. LOL.. you own this! LOL I love it!

      #RESIST!

    158. jason says:

      Roberts is not going to insert himself.

    159. Hugh says:

      165. I agree

    160. JulStol says:

      Impeachment bollocks end tomorrow as Britain leaves the EU
      1/31/2020 is going to be a great day in history seasoned by salty LibTears.

    161. Hugh says:

      Warren insulting scotus didn’t help.

    162. Phil says:

      Fixed the trial. LMAO

    163. jason says:

      ‘Refused to hear testimony, and fixed the trial”

      Huh, that was despicable Schiff.

      The kangaroo court bogus charges have failed.

      Let the Marxists pretend the trial was not legitimate.

      The important thing is Trump will be acquitted, probably with 1 or 2 Dem votes just to make it special.

    164. jason says:

      This was a cheap little partisan coup attempt.

      But of course the Marxist Leninist knows that.

    165. Proud Obamacon says:

      Best possible outcome! The ads will write themselves. What a gift. Thank you looooosahs! LOL

    166. Tina says:

      Lamar is a no.

      Pierre Detrestable is a yes.

      I will primary his arse when he is up.

    167. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      IOWA
      Trump 45% (+1) Buttigieg 44% .
      Trump 46% (+2) Biden 44% .
      Trump 46% (+5) Klobuchar 41% .
      Trump 47% (+5) Warren 42% .
      Trump 48% (+6) Sanders 42% .
      Trump 47% (+8) Bloomberg 39%
      @SienaResearch

      Trump Job Approval:
      Approve 50%
      Disapprove 49%
      @Rasmussen_Poll

    168. Tina says:

      Pierre Destetsable has to protect his Burisma friends.

    169. Proud Obamacon says:

      So now yall agree that a president can basically do anything to ensure his re-election. yall’s lawyer said it and yall agree. This could come in handy someday LOL!

      And that’s just the tip of the iceberg too!!

      #RESIST!

    170. Phil says:

      Hunter Biden and daddy Joe breathing a sigh of relief. LOL

    171. Bitterlaw says:

      Even though it is stupid and Jason called her on it, Tina continues to compare conservative Roberts to liberal Souter.

      As for Romney, I respect his Trump hatred.

    172. Tina says:

      Looks like .soviet Schifty tried to pull Nattler away from answering the final question.

      Cn and n says it was a disaster for the drats.

    173. Tina says:

      And we know the witnesses that Quittens wants to hear from.

      They are the same witnesses as Schiffty

    174. Tina says:

      Detestable wants Drat witnesses. His approval in Utah will continue to drop.

      Sen. Lamar Alexander
      @SenAlexander
      · 27m
      I worked with other senators to make sure that we have the right to ask for more documents and witnesses, but there is no need for more evidence to prove something that has already been proven and that does not meet the U.S. Constitution’s high bar for an impeachable offense.1/15

    175. Phil says:

      Hey, PO. You’ve finally swayed me. In Texas, we don’t have party registration and after talking it over with my wife we’ve decided to vote in the Democratic Primary for Bernie. Gonna try and persuade some of my Republican friends to do the same.

      You and I are now on the same team! How about them apples?

    176. Tina says:

      This is a picture of the outside of trumps Iowa rally tonight.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/CauciHawkeye/status/1223075939380289536

    177. Tina says:

      The socialist son is sad. Maybe his inter socialist is still against the tax cuts.

      Bill Kristol
      @BillKristol
      · 1h
      Lamar at the Bat

      The outlook wasn’t brilliant for the rule of law that day;
      The votes for witnesses stood at two with an hour yet to play.

      But there was ease in Lamar’s manner as he stepped into his place;
      There was pride in Lamar’s bearing and a smile on Lamar’s face…

    178. Proud Obamacon says:

      LOL be careful what you wish for Phil!

      #FEEL.DA.BERN!

    179. Tina says:

      TheLastRefuge
      @TheLastRefuge2
      ·
      33m
      Unfortunately,
      @SenatorCollins
      is incorrect.

      In the Clinton impeachment, no witnesses that did not previously testify in the House assembly of the articles was considered. Her statement is patently untrue/false.

    180. jason says:

      As for Romney, I respect his Trump hatred.”

      It’s not about Trump, it’s about him.

      He has sold his principles so he can be a hero of the left wing media.

      All he deserves is derision and disdain.

    181. jason says:

      ProudObamacommunist is actually right.

      Maybe Americans want communism, in which case Bernie wins.

      But maybe they don’t, and he loses.

      We might as well decide now.

    182. Proud Obamacon says:

      Good night yall, Thanks for the gift. Yall so nice LOL!!

    183. Phil says:

      Yes, PO, Feel Da Bern!

      Now, let’s work hard for Bernie and get that nomination!

    184. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Nigel Farage was at his best in his final speech at the European Parliament. He also made a good point about the battle between globalism and populism. The British delegation left the meeting waving the Union Jack.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIgmfpHBiDw

    185. Phil says:

      Funny you should bring that up, SD. I was just looking at that. It was epic!

    186. jason says:

      I made the mistake of hoping the glorified community rabblerouser would win the Dem nomination in 2008. I figured the most unqualified candidate in my lifetime couldn’t win.

      Now maybe I am making a mistake in hoping Bernie wins the nomination, under the theory an old bolshevik can’t win.

      I will take the chance on being right this time.

    187. jason says:

      Farage is an absolute moron, “Farage at his best” is an oxymoron. He is the Ron Paul of the UK.

    188. Phil says:

      Bernie will get off to a great start but he can’t win in November and for that reason the Democratic voters and Democratic establishment will probably be able to stop him. They will do so on the issue of electability. Kind of what happened to Howard Dean in 2004.

      Won’t stop me from voting in the primary for Sanders just the same.

    189. Tina says:

      Fair enough.

      2
      8
      36

      Will Chamberlain ??
      @willchamberlain
      ·
      5m
      The alternative to Susan Collins is a Democrat

      The alternative to Mitt Romney is an actual Republican

      Susan Collins cast a crucial vote to confirm Kavanaugh, I haven’t forgotten that and you shouldn’t either

      And with Lamar going the right way her vote is for show

    190. Tina says:

      The alternative to Pierre in Utah is an actual conservative

    191. dblaikie says:

      As usual the Turtle is in control. I believe if there is any question about Roberts inserting himself into this Murkowski will be a no. Who here doubts that Mitch hasn’t ascertained from Judge Roberts what he would do in case of a tie? I have been wrong before but I believe that you can stick in fork in this Senate horror show and declare it dead.

    192. jason says:

      “And while some Democrats are calling on Roberts to break any 50-50 ties, Sen. Chris Murphy, a Connecticut Democrat, said that he is uncomfortable with the idea given the potential repercussions and precedent it would set.

      “I don’t want Roberts voting,” he said. “That to me is pretty clear that the Constitution specifically gives the power to the vice president to break ties, it’s silent on that matter in an impeachment trial. Which leads me to the opinion that he’s not supposed to vote.”[….]

      As for the question of whether the chief justice could break a tie if it were to occur, a report from the Congressional Research Service put it this way: “The Chief Justice, when presiding over an impeachment trial, would not be expected to vote, even in the case of a tie. If a vote on a question results in a tie, the question is decided in the negative.”

    193. jason says:

      Messy hardest hit.

    194. dblaikie says:

      It was fun to watch CNN for a while after the Alexander text. Talk about rage and anger.

      The truth is that I am a bit sorry that there will be no witnesses. Bolton would have been a nothing burger, but the whistle blower’s testimony would be real trouble for the Dems. However I am not that sorry.

    195. Wes says:

      VA, IL, and NV go woke:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/era-lawsuit-herring/2020/01/30/027eb956-42dc-11ea-aa6a-083d01b3ed18_story.html?utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&utm_medium=email&utm_source=alert&wpisrc=al_politics__alert-politics–alert-local-politics&wpmk=1

      Of course since the ERA itself requires passage within seven years of its congressional passing (with no extension since Congress extended the time in 1979, I fail to see how this lawsuit can go anywhere.

    196. jason says:

      I don’t normally agree with Slate, a far left rag, but I agree with them on Sanders.

      https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/trump-bernie-sanders-socialism.html

    197. lisab says:

      John Roberts’ Moment of Truth
      The chief justice has a duty to break any ties in the impeachment trial in favor of witnesses.

      John Roberts is facing a moment of truth. It appears increasingly possible that the Senate will split 50–50 on calling witnesses to testify in the trial of President Donald Trump. While Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has done all he can to get Republicans to toe the party line, Sens. Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski, and Mitt Romney are raising conscientious objections that may lead them to join 47 Democrats to call for witnesses, which would result in a tie vote.

      It would then be up to Roberts to decide whether, as presiding officer, he will break the tie. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi on Thursday called on Roberts to fulfill his constitutional role and obligation to the rule of law. “I would hope that the Senators—if it comes to a tie, or if there’s a question of hearing testimony or receiving documents—would leave it up to the chief justice of the Supreme Court,” Pelosi said. “I would think that they would have confidence in the chief justice of the United States.” In fact, the decisive precedent for such a tie-breaking vote was established during the impeachment trial of Andrew Johnson. As presiding officer, Chief Justice Salmon Chase broke ties at two turning points in the proceeding.

    198. Phil says:

      Does anyone think for one minute that any of those four Democratic senators running for President really want this trial to go beyond tomorrow night witness or no witness? They want to get on a plane early Saturday and get to Iowa.

      As far as Roberts saving Schiff’s bacon on calling more witnesses forget it. One, Roberts doesn’t want that decision in his lap. He has always been for the Supreme Court being as non political as far as upsetting the apple art as possible. As Supreme Court Chief Justice he doesn’t want to be a political lightning rod. Two, even if he were so inclined to rule any senator could object forcing a vote as to whether Roberts had that power to arbitrarily rule and who among the 50 Republicans is going to suddenly break and hand that power to Roberts? The answer is nobody. Finally, don’t think for a moment that Democrats want to see Hunter Biden deposed…let alone Joe and let alone Schiff or the whistle blower.

      This thing is over. Look forward to Trump’s SOTU speech Tuesday night. It should be quite a soap opera as to what he says and as to how Nancy and the Democrats behave. Because of all that, ratings ought to be pretty high.

    199. lisab says:

      i think warren would love to see hunter as a witness

      and sanders might too

    200. Bitterlaw says:

      Romney is an “actual” Republican and conservative. Trump is an opportunist. Of course, Tina is not an actual Republican so she worships Trump.

    201. Hugh says:

      Bitter. Maybe he’s a true conservative and maybe trump isn’t. However since Reagan trump has delivered more than any republican on conservative objectives. He has also well represented the people who elected him in terms of fighting for what they wanted. Do you for one second think Romney is representing the people who voted for him on this issue or just representing his bruised ego?

    202. Messy says:

      207. Bitter and I agree on something!!!!! (sorry Bitter)

      204. I agree with LisaB on that one too.

      200. Nope. the Country as a whole would be the hardest hit. Patriotism is not the flag, but what it stands for.

    203. DW says:

      Ah, the trip down memory lane, 2004 and Howard Dean…”we’re going to South Carolina, California, Washington, and Michigan, then we’re going back to WASHINGTON, DC AND TAKE BACK THE WHITE HOUSE!!! AUUUUGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!”

    204. Wes says:

      John Roberts has an obligation to sit at the Senate President’s desk and preside over the trial. Only the Vice-President has the ability to break ties in the Senate; thus Robert is not—and should not be—a participant but a disinterested spectator.

      Even one Dem Senator acknowledges Roberts has no role in the voting but only in overseeing.

      Of course if Roberts did try to vote on the proceedings that would damage his credibility as an objective observer.

    205. Skippy says:

      New Park Street Strategies poll of Iowa finds…

      Biden 20
      Sanders 18
      Buttigieg 17
      Warren 17
      Klobuchar 12
      Yang 5
      Steyer 4

    206. jason says:

      204. I agree with LisaB on that one too. ”

      LOL

      Messy Moron forgot lisab rarely uses quotes.

    207. Wes says:

      Former Virginia North Congressman John Delaney (D-MD) exits the presidential race.

      I’m sure his supporter is heartbroken.

    208. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Very sad news! Delaney(D-MD) exits Democrat Presidential campaign.

      http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3812445/posts

    209. jason says:

      Romney is an “actual” Republican and conservative. Trump is an opportunist.”

      Romney is also a scumbag opportunist willing to sell out his principles if it gets him a headline.

      I have given Romney credit when he has served the party and conservative causes well. Nobody has spoken up for Romney more than I have here on this forum. And if someone still wants to attack him as the “father of Obamacare” or “vulture capitalist” of some other BS I will still speak up for him.

      It doesn’t mean I have to keep doing in when he doesn’t, and he certainly is not serving either the party or the cause of conservatism well as a media whore.

      Pretending otherwise is somewhat akin to judging Trump based on the 2016 campaign rather than how he has governed since.

      The facts have led me to change my views on both Trump and Romney.

      Sue me.

    210. jason says:

      Former Virginia North Congressman John Delaney (D-MD) exits the presidential race.”

      Who?

    211. jason says:

      Over at DKos they are asking for money to “Jail Trump Staffers who Refuse Subpoenas”.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    212. jason says:

      Klobuchar told by MN NAACP and Black Lives Matter to drop out.

    213. jason says:

      The article Messy Moron “agreed with” was a Slate article written by Bruce Ackerman.

      Messy Moron makes an ass out of herself here at least once a day.

    214. dblaikie says:

      Here is my first thoughts of the state of the Senate races as we move towards a vote. First of all, I would like to begin with GOP pickups. Jones only won in Alabama because of the stupidity of having Moore win the primary. Alabama will go red. Second I believe that James is the perfect GOP candidate for Michigan. If the polls are right and Trump has shaved off some points of the African American vote. Then James will be hard to beat. In my view Michigan is slightly leaning GOP.

      That means the Dems will have to pick up six seats to get a majority — if Trump wins, five if he doesn’t (I believe he will). Frankly I think Collins has come out of this basically the same when she votes to acquit. In other words Maine is a toss-up. If for some reason she votes guilty she will lose. McSally has strengthened herself with GOP base. Before Impeachment to me she was the most vulnerable GOP Senator. But in showing she had a spine she moves from Arizona leaning blue to toss-up. Gardener is now the most vulnerable GOP Senator. His race is a toss up to slightly lean Democrat. Finally if Trump performs as well in Kansas, Georgia, and North Carolina they will remain red. They lean GOP.

      Bottom line is that the Senate is in play but it leans red.

    215. PresidentPaul! says:

      Farage brings the house down.

      Nigel Farage’s final speech to European Parliament cut short after he waves flag

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBMvZRf9Scs&feature=youtu.be

      “If you disobey the rules, you get cut off, could we please remove the flags,” said McGuinness.”

    216. jason says:

      Manchin up to 78% to acquit on Predictit.

      Jones 53%. Sinema 40%.

      To convict Romney is at 18%, Collins 14%, Murkowski 12%.

      Frankly I wouldn’t take any of those bets. Because if you vote to acquit/convict on one count it counts as if you voted to acquit/convict, I think Manchin will probably vote to acquit on the obstruction charge at least. But I wouldn’t risk 78 cents to get a dollar.

    217. jason says:

      Screw Nigel Farage.

    218. Skippy says:

      Jason,

      Klobuchar story won’t hurt her because the case was reviewed again long after she left her office as Hennepin County Prosecutor and it was same result, the man was found guilty.

      It definitely won’t hurt her momentum in Iowa going into Caucus night. Amy will get her 15% of precinct delegates at the end of the night as I told you all she would get 9-10 days ago.

      Let’s face it. You all need Skippy in your life to tell you what’s about to happen.

    219. Chicon says:

      Oh, Jason, why so hard on Mitt? He was treated like dirt by Trump and is rightfully seeking revenge. Understandable, no?

    220. DW says:

      1 – Biden: 28.5
      2 – Sanders: 23.3
      3 – Warren: 15.5
      4 – Bloomberg: 8.2
      5 – Buttigieg: 7
      6 – Yang: 4.8
      7 – Klobuchar : 4.3
      8 – Steyer: 1.8
      9 – Gabbard: 1.6
      10 – Bennet: 0.4
      11 – Patrick: 0.4
      12 – Delaney: Dropped out
      13 – Williamson: Dropped out
      14 – Booker: Dropped out
      15 – Castro: Dropped out
      16 – Harris: Dropped out
      17 – Bullock: Dropped out
      18 – Sestak: Dropped out
      19 – Messam : Dropped out
      20 – O’Rourke : Dropped out
      21 – Ryan: Dropped out
      22 – de Blasio : Dropped out
      23 – Gillibrand: Dropped out
      24 – Hickenlooper: Dropped out
      25 – Inslee: Dropped out
      26 – Moulton: Dropped out
      27 – Gravel: Dropped out
      28 – Swalwell: Dropped out
      29 – Ojeda: Dropped out

    221. jason says:

      “Klobuchar story won’t hurt her because the case was reviewed again long after she left her office as Hennepin County Prosecutor and it was same result, the man was found guilty.”

      Zzzzzzz….

      Tell me, does this Hill story help or hurt her campaign? I have yet to see a case where when fellow liberals ask you to quit, that is a positive. Could be the first time.

      “Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) is being called to suspend her presidential campaign after an Associated Press story published Tuesday offered a critical account of her handling of a case while she was Hennepin County’s district attorney.

      As the county DA, Klobuchar led the case against Myon Burrell, who was a teenager at the time and was sentenced to life in prison for the 2002 murder of 11-year-old Tyesha Edwards. The AP story revealed that Klobuchar prosecuted Burrell, now 33, despite there being little evidence and even though his co-defendant confessed to the crime and said Burrell wasn’t there.

      Though Klobuchar was not the county’s top prosecutor the second time Burrell was convicted after filing an appeal, she reportedly denied his request to attend his mother’s funeral, claiming he was a threat to society.”

    222. jason says:

      Oh, Jason, why so hard on Mitt? He was treated like dirt by Trump and is rightfully seeking revenge. Understandable, no?”

      Actually, no.

      If this is some kind of dumb analogy to McCain, you are an idiot. If it is not, I stand corrected.

      Nothing Trump ever said about Romney would compare to telling someone that spent years being tortured in a POW camp that you aren’t a war hero because you were captured. Nothing.

      Romney and Trump have traded barbs, yes. Trump said he “choked like a dog” in 2012. But actually Trump endorsed Romney in 2012, and Romney accepted just like he accepted Trump’s endorsement in his senate race. Romney being “mistreated” by Trump is somewhat BS.

      Finally, I have plenty of criticisms of Trump myself, and I don’t care if Romney attacks him on policy differences. My objection is that Romney has gone way beyond disagreeing on policy for no other reason to ingratiate himself with his fawning friends in the left wing MSM.

      And now he wants to drag out the impeachment trial that he knows is not going to result in conviction just to garner some headlines, knowing full well that all he is doing is helping the Democrats. When you align yourself with Adam Schiff for personal vanity, you are a scumbag.

    223. dblaikie says:

      Jason I agree with you totally concerning Romney.

    224. Skippy says:

      Jason,

      Again, Burrell was convicted a 2nd time long after Klobuchar left office.

      Are there activist rallying against Klobuchar at this time to ihelp Biden with the moderate vote in the Iowa Caucus?

      Yes. This is not bean bag. But Klobmentum won’t be stopped in Iowa because of this story which Amy has answered many times in the past.

      Klobuchar will get to 15% of the precinct delegates on Iowa Caucus night. No National Pundit has told you this…..but I did 9-10 days ago.

      Your welcome.

    225. Chicon says:

      Skippy, you’re point would have Moore wait if you used proper American.

      You’re welcome.

    226. Chicon says:

      Mitt took a beating by Trump. Trump was mean to him in public. Then humiliated him with the dinner. Why would Trump be surprised Mitt would twist the knife when given the chance?

      Kind of the A-hole code, no?

    227. Chicon says:

      Wait, now that you bring up McCain, your position on him getting “revenge” on Trump was just a tad different than your stance on Mitt.

    228. Chicon says:

      Klobmentum will get to 15% of the precinct delegates on Iowa Caucus night.

      Skippy 1
      National Pundits 0

      You are welcome.
      You’re welcome.

      No need to thank me.

    229. Tina says:

      cccp sanders takes national lead among drats in Mac poll

    230. Tina says:

      NBC poll*

    231. Chicon says:

      Skippy, use your own handle…

    232. jason says:

      Mitt took a beating by Trump. Trump was mean to him in public. Then humiliated him with the dinner.”

      Actually, facts not in evidence. Trump invited Romney to dinner and hosted him at his club. Romney accepted the invitations and “was humiliated” is an exaggeration.

      In any case, like I said, nothing Trump ever said to Romney comes even close to telling someone who was maimed, tortured and imprisoned for years in a hellhole POW camp in the service of their country that they are not a war hero because they got captured. Nothing. Nada. Zilch.

      So the analogy is asinine.

    233. Tina says:

      Scheme team lost badly.

      Now nuttler and Schiffty are fighting.

      Earlier they said that foreigners could interfere in an election if its paid opposition research. (Even though Hillary paid her attorney who paid for the research).

      Scheme Team and their law fare allies called senators all kinds of names and Schiffty dodged answering questions

    234. Tina says:

      A fraud.

      C3
      @C_3C_3
      · 1h
      Mitt Romney was always going to vote whichever way hurt Trump.

      He didn’t need to listen to the week long trial.

      He was always voting to stab Trump in the back.

      Romney speaks about “character” but he has NONE.

      I wonder what blackmail they have on Mitt.

      It must be really sick.

    235. Chicon says:

      Jason, Mitt saved the Olympics. He deserves a coveted HHR Get Out of Jail Free card.

    236. jason says:

      ait, now that you bring up McCain, your position on him getting “revenge” on Trump was just a tad different than your stance on Mitt.”

      Stop digging.

      I never advocated for McCain to get revenge on Trump. And I disagreed on his Obamacare vote.

      As far as passing the dossier on to the FBI, I think McCain did the right thing.

      But with McCain, Trump made his own bed, and he can’t complain if McCain held a grudge. He should have apologized. Since it is not in his nature, he should be willing to live with the consequences.

      Romney is free to disagree with Trump. But joining in with Adam Schiff to prolong a trial where he knows the outcome just to get some headlines is petty and self serving. And Romney has turned out to be a very petty man.

    237. Phil says:

      Jennifer Rubin is going nuts last night and this morning. For fun just looked at her tweets last night and this morning. Wow. She is furious at the Republican Senate and in particular, Lamar Alexander. In summation, she believes the Republican Senate has made a mockery of justice, Schiff has “proven” beyond all shadow of a doubt that Trump is a “criminal”, now believes Trump should be indicted while in office and certainly when he leaves office, and, oh yeah, Trump’s lawyers are clowns and should lose their law licenses.

      This all from the Washington Post’s resident “conservative”. LOL. Quite a tantrum even for Jenny. Someone get this woman a straight jacket.

    238. jason says:

      Mitt did a great job with the Olympics. He was a successful businessman. He was a good governor of MA. He has a great family. He was the best candidate the Rs could field in 2012. He would have been a much better President than Obama.

      He is still a scumbag MSM toady who sells out his principles for a headline.

    239. Chicon says:

      Tina, Mitt is simply angling for the same treatment McCain got. He’s getting it. He learned well from Senator McCain.

    240. Chicon says:

      Jason, you’re right about Mitt. Just write a similar post about McCain and you’ll be onto something.

    241. jason says:

      This is what Romney lives for. Adulation from the NYT. Reporters running after him. Praises from Democrats

      “You could always recognize Romney, R-Utah, racing around the Capitol. He drew big press scrums and wore a bemused grin — a face to indicate that he had seen some things in a career that has taken some unforeseen turns, particularly now.

      Romney is the rare Senate Republican — actually the lone Senate Republican until late Thursday — who is vocally pushing for witnesses to be called in President Donald Trump’s impeachment trial. He is also the only Senate Republican who is seen as a possible vote to convict the president, an added distinction since Trump got every House Republican to fall in line.

      All of which places upon Romney a level of curiosity that goes beyond the quasi-celebrity treatment he already receives as the last pre-Trump standard-bearer of a Republican Party that feels about 80 years removed from the party that nominated him eight years ago.

      “Hey, it’s Mitt Romney!” …. “One question, senator!” …. “Sen. Romney! Sen. Romney!”

      As Romney was beating a brisk retreat from the Senate floor during a break in the trial Wednesday afternoon, a small pack of reporters yelled after him like kids chasing an ice cream truck. He ended up in his hideaway office tucked into the entrails of the Capitol.

      Romney has also become a magnet for nostalgia lately — at least among Democrats. “He is a decent, honorable man,” former Vice President Joe Biden said in a recent interview of Romney. Biden conceded that it was unlikely that he would be running for president right now if it were Romney seeking reelection, not Trump.

      “I think this is Sen. Romney’s moment to shine,” said Sen. Amy Klobuchar, another Democratic presidential candidate who was in Washington for the impeachment trial. She was referring specifically to Romney’s support for calling witnesses.

      “Hopefully he can bring some people with him,” Klobuchar said. She meant Republicans, a prospect that was looking more and more unlikely. By most indications, Romney’s ability to recruit Republican colleagues to his position has been minimal at best..

    242. jason says:

      A magnet for nostalgia – at least among Democrats.

      ” A small pack of reporters yelled after him like kids chasing an ice cream truck”

    243. jason says:

      Jason, you’re right about Mitt. Just write a similar post about McCain and you’ll be onto something.”

      So you WERE making the analogy.

      So you ARE an idiot.

      Thanks for the clarification.

    244. Chicon says:

      Jason says…”This is what Romney lives for. Adulation from the NYT. Reporters running after him. Praises from Democrats”

      This is also true….”This is what McCain lives for. Adulation from the NYT. Reporters running after him. Praises from Democrats”

      One guy is condemned, the other gets the coveted HHR Get Out of Jail Free card.

    245. Chicon says:

      Sorry, Jason, you brought McCain into this, which reminded me of your hypocrisy on the topic. So I continued the discussion. Sue me or GFY.

    246. jason says:

      “Just write a similar post about McCain”

      Sure. I am always willing to recognize John McCain.

      John McCain was a truly great American. A man who gave sacrificed for his country, was shot down, tortured, maimed and imprisoned for years. He was right to be proud of his service. A man with a great career in public service, and who made great contributions to the Republican Party and conservative causes, being rewarded by his constituents to 2 terms in the House and 6 terms in the Senate.

      He was a great advocate for our men and women in uniform, and worked tirelessly to support them, and for keeping our military well equipped and ready to fight.

      I didn’t always agree with him. Not on campaign finance. Not on Obamacare. Not on other issues. But we need more John McCain’s in public service, not fewer.

      We can disagree with someone’s policy beliefs without attacking their service to our country. What Trump said about McCain will never be excusable.

      Chicon, will that do? Tks for the opportunity.

    247. Phil says:

      Right on cue…Another op ed in the Washington Post this morning by the infamous George Conway on how the Trump lawyers fooled the senate.

      Question for Kelli Ann – what are you still doing with this clown? Must be hung like a horse.

    248. jason says:

      Sorry, Jason, you brought McCain into this,”

      No, actually that is a lie, YOU did.

      “Oh, Jason, why so hard on Mitt? He was treated like dirt by Trump and is rightfully seeking revenge. Understandable, no?”

      Actually, no.

      If this is some kind of dumb analogy to McCain, you are an idiot. If it is not, I stand corrected.”

      So you have confirmed you are an idiot. No that it was ever in question.

    249. jason says:

      Must be hung like a horse.”

      LOL

    250. Chicon says:

      256 – thanks for confirming that you brought McCain into the discussion.

    251. Chicon says:

      255 – or a llama.

    252. jason says:

      which reminded me of your hypocrisy on the topic”

      Zzzzzzz…

      There is no hypocrisy.

      McCain had decades in public service, his record is there for all to see. Thousands of votes. Trying to make his career about one or two votes you disagree with is really stupid.

    253. jason says:

      He was treated like dirt by Trump and is rightfully seeking revenge. Understandable, no?”

      So you are actually saying that this was NOT a reference to McCain?

      If the answer is yes I will add liar to idiot.

    254. jason says:

      Manchin now at 82% to acquit…

      Collins down to 7% to convict.

      Even scumbag Romney is only at 25% to convict.

    255. Chicon says:

      Jason, on the McCain topic, you often refer to Trump’s horrible comments on McCain being captured. I join you in condemning those comments.

      However, McCain acted like Mitt is currently acting years before Trump made the comments or entered the Presidential picture.

      Mitt is a copy of McCain. Praise them both or criticize them both. Treating them differently is hypocrisy.

    256. jason says:

      I feel good when I am given the opportunity to defend John McCain against shameful and scurrilous attacks on his service to his country both in the military and in the Senate.

      And Chicon deserves credit for often giving me that opportunity.

    257. jason says:

      Mitt is a copy of McCain. Praise them both or criticize them both. Treating them differently is hypocrisy.”

      Drivel and garbage. A complete and utter fabrication.

      Mitt is no copy of McCain. Literally there is NOTHING similar about their careers, demeanor, experience, records… nothing.

      McCain “never acted like Mitt”.

      I never saw McCain sell out his principles. Never.
      If anything, he was incredibly consistent. The fact you don’t agree with them is irrelevant.

      Romney, on the other hand, sells out his principles on a daily basis just to get headlines. That makes him a scumbag.

      Apples and oranges.

    258. Chicon says:

      264 -I’d say I’m glad to help you, but I’m a bit queasy about making an A-hole feel good.

    259. Chicon says:

      Of course, I might have made the A-hole sore, which might not be good either.

    260. jason says:

      McCain acted like Mitt is currently acting years before Trump made the comments or entered the Presidential picture.”

      Why? Because he didn’t always vote the way you thought he should?

      Again, I already said Romney is free to vote against Trump’s policies if he deems it in the interest of the country. I won’t call him a scumbag for that just like I never called McCain a scumbag for some of this votes.

      But writing trash talk op-eds in the WAPO for the express purpose of ingratiating yourself with the left wing media, yeah, that will get me to call you a scumbag. Prolonging a senate trial when you know the outcome just to get headlines and help out the dishonest House Dems and their MSM allies, yeah, I will call you a scumbag.

    261. jason says:

      but I’m a bit queasy about making an A-hole feel good.”

      Go for it.

    262. jason says:

      Mitt is a copy of McCain.”

      This is almost as dumb as Messy saying the Chief Justice will be voting with the Dems.

      Nahhh….

    263. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Iowa ARG
      Likely Democratic Caucus-Goers Jan 2020
      Bennet –
      Biden 17%
      Bloomberg 2%
      Buttigieg 9%
      Gabbard 2%
      Klobuchar 16%
      Patrick –
      Sanders 23%
      Steyer 3%
      Warren 15%
      Yang 5%
      Other 2%
      Undecided 6%

      KLOMENTUM

    264. BayernFan says:

      Rasmussen

      Black approval/disapproval of Trump

      42/58

    265. Chicon says:

      272 – if we set the over/under of Trump’s percentage of the black vote in November at 12.5%, is it an over? Or under?

      I have the under.

    266. Chicon says:

      Not sure if Jason is more hypocritical on the Mitt/McCain issue, or the McCain/Ginsburg stepping down issue. I’d have to go with the latter.

    267. Tina says:

      Hung like a horse or

      Round like a blimp.

    268. Skippy says:

      Here comes Klobmentum in Iowa!!

    269. DW says:

      Biden seems to be in real danger of not only losing IA, but finishing in 4th place. Then follow that up by a dismal performance in NH, and Biden could crash and burn faster than expected.

    270. DW says:

      “Rasmussen

      Black approval/disapproval of Trump

      42/58”

      So what does this realistically mean for the election? Does it soften Democrat support enough in PA (Philly) and MI (Detroit) so as to keep these states red?

    271. Phil says:

      Trump got 8% of the black vote in 2016. I’m going to say he gets between 10 and 11% this cycle. I believe that would be a VERY safe bet and won’t make much difference. It will help at the margins in Pennsylvania but mostly helpful in Michigan. Not necessarily decisive, but certainly doesn’t hurt.

      More importantly, I believe Trump does a couple of points better among suburban white women – 401Ks being the impetus for that. Not necessarily decisive but potentially could be the difference in what is surely to be a close election.

    272. BayernFan says:

      Will blacks who vote for trump admit it to exit pollsters?

    273. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      What I wouldnt give to see Fauxcahontas finish 5th monday…

    274. gameboy says:

      #277 I stand by my prediction from a few months ago. Biden will be toast by super Tuesday. It boggles my mind that many on here think this guy will be a threat. All you have to do is watch the guy talk for 5 minutes…..tells you everything you need to know.

    275. Chicon says:

      280 – perhaps not. But that means they answer honestly on Raz and other polling, but not on an exit poll.

    276. PresidentPaul! says:

      Bernie will probably win bigger in Iowa than expected because caucus night tends to let ppl with strong grass roots organizations lobby for their guy and pull people into their camps. When you see a super excited group of college students having bernie rallies at these caucuses, it ends up pulling in semi undecided voters.

    277. jason says:

      NYT releases new “bombshell” just in time for the vote.

      Drudge plays along.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    278. NYCmike says:

      #284 – it’s over for Bernie…..the death knell of his campaign is loud and clear!

    279. NYCmike says:

      “NYT releases new “bombshell” just in time for the vote.”

      -Shocking!

    280. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Pretty weak bombshell – just more of the same accusation on Bolton. It’s not going to change anything

    281. Phil says:

      Right on script, Jason. I believe I stated yesterday what to expect in the way of “bombshells” today. If anyone is even moderately surprised at the last minute timing of stories then you have been living in la la land for the last three years.

      The script is the same over and over. As far as Drudge, Jason, do yourself a favor and quit wasting your time going over there. by now, you know exactly what you are going to see over there. You might as well be clicking on the NYT website. Of course, that’s about all he links to anymore anyway.

    282. NYCmike says:

      Phil,

      You asked for a specific time, if I recall, as you stated something would definitely come out today.

      Right on the money!

      Between you and Skippy……..

    283. Dylan says:

      The Drudge thing is not anything close to a “bombshell.” It’s referring to some other passage of Bolton’s book. Pitiful. Listen, the republicans need to get real about exorcising destructive snakes like Bolton from any future position of power—100% this guy would have gotten us into WW6 if allowed to pull the levers of policy.

    284. Dylan says:

      279–I’ll be really disappointed if all he pulls is 10-11% this cycle among Blacks. It will basically prove how institutional their Stockholm syndrome is.

    285. Phil says:

      CNN begging Bolton to call in and spill the beans on Trump.

      Please oh please, John. Save the Republic! Our nation lifts it’s lonely eyes to you!

    286. Phil says:

      Please, John!! Save us!! Speak out today. We here at CNN will treat you like a king if only you do our bidding and take out orange man! Just one call into us. One simple phone call. PLEASE!

    287. jason says:

      LOL

      “Bolton writes that he never made the call to Zelensky, the Times reports.”

    288. jason says:

      So Trump told him to call Zelensky, which in any case is not impeachable, but Bolton never called him anyway.

      Zzzzzzzzzz….

    289. Hugh says:

      So let’s get this straight. On Fox news all the commentators are talking about all the horrible things that will happen to the Republican senators. But they have no evidence of that other than mainstream media talking points. When is the mainstream media been right on any of this? Psoriasis impeachment is dragged on from Scott more popular where is the evidence that this strategy is working? This box have anyone with half a brain anymore To challenge the status quo.

    290. lisab says:

      Klobuchar story won’t hurt her because the case was reviewed again long after she left her office as Hennepin County Prosecutor and it was same result, the man was found guilty.
      ———————————

      she is a white women

      he is a black man

      the jury are 100% sjws who probably favour other dem candidates

      it will hurt, maybe knock her off the vp list

    291. NYCmike says:

      Triple

    292. Hugh says:

      Ugh autocorrect

    293. jason says:

      After a flurry of activity, any witness to be called back down to 7% at Predictit.

    294. NYCmike says:

      It must be an election year!

    295. jason says:

      Murkowski a no.

    296. jason says:

      Get this over.

    297. lisab says:

      Mitt took a beating by Trump. Trump was mean to him in public. Then humiliated him with the dinner. Why would Trump be surprised Mitt would twist the knife when given the chance?
      ——————————

      because the proper way to get back at a political rival who is president is to block his ambassadors, like they did to weld, not hurt the nation

    298. Phil says:

      Just in from the Washington Post – New tapes show Lev Parnas had direct access to Trump at Mar-a-Lago fund raiser event.

      OMG. Another “bombshell” LOL

      I guess it is going to be a new bombshell every hour.

    299. lisab says:

      Schiff has “proven” beyond all shadow of a doubt that Trump is a “criminal”, now believes Trump should be indicted while in office and certainly when he leaves office, and, oh yeah, Trump’s lawyers are clowns and should lose their law licenses.
      ——————————–

      if you think that this is ovah when trump leaves office, you are sadly mistaken

      the proud obamaconns of the dem party what arrests of the entire trump administration

      and

      potentially any of you deplorables who support him.

      they are 100% serious … go to reddit.com/r/politics. here are just a couple of threads
      ————————————–

      ‘A really shameful episode in our history’: Legendary Watergate reporter Carl Bernstein accused the GOP of a cover-up over Trump’s impeachment

      #LamarAlexanderIsACoward Trends After GOP Senator Admits Trump Did What Democrats Say But Won’t Vote For Trial Witnesses

      Fox News Legal Analyst: GOP Senators Suppressing Truth If They Don’t Call Witnesses

      Lamar Alexander has ‘Forever shamed the United States Senate,’ former Bill Clinton press secretary says

      Romney to vote in favor of impeachment witnesses

      Fake Moderate Susan Collins Gets ‘Zero Points’ Whatsoever for Vote on Witnesses: Critics | “Just as we’ve known she would, Collins announced her support for witnesses only when the votes were fixed to block witnesses and rig the trial to cover-up the corruption of Donald Trump.”

      ‘The Fix Is In!’ Twitter Users Shred ‘Coward’ Lamar Alexander After Vote Reveal

      and my favourite …

      Taylor Swift calls GOP Sen. Marsha Blackburn ‘Trump in a wig’ in new documentary

    300. jason says:

      It looks like Murkowski is a vote no because she didn’t like the Dems trying to bring in the Chief Justice into the equation.

      Wow, did THAT backfire big time.

    301. Phil says:

      Next bombshell slated for 2:00 PM. My guess the next one comes from the Boston Globe.

    302. jason says:

      “It has also become clear some of my colleagues intend to further politicize this process, and drag the Supreme Court into the fray, while attacking the Chief Justice. I will not stand for nor support that effort. We have already degraded this institution for partisan political benefit, and I will not enable those who wish to pull down another.”

    303. jason says:

      Speaking of Mar-a-Lago somebody just tried to crash drive in there.

    304. lisab says:

      ApollosCrow
      Score hidden ·
      2 hours ago

      My coworkers keep asking me if something’s wrong, and I don’t really know how to explain the death of democracy and why it matters to people who are mainly concerned with what to get for lunch today.

      Seriously though the mental health aspect of this situation is under-reported. Please reach out to anyone that you see struggling.
      —————————————

      does anyone here remember men? they were strong and had chest hair?

      no? …

    305. lisab says:

      Question for Kelli Ann …

      ——————————

      they say she was not wearing her wedding ring recently

    306. Phil says:

      Dumb f*cking Americans can’t see how bad Orange Man is and it’s driving the MSM bat sh*t crazy. I should say craziER.

      Chuck Todd having a stroke today.

    307. jason says:

      They are not handling it well over at Amoral Scumbag’s favorite news source, Daily Kos.

      “Roberts needs to declare a mistrial and take control and start demanding attorneys and Senators disqualify themselves.Portman and Graham are both apparently involved in the conspiracy and trying to cover up their misdeeds.”

    308. Phil says:

      Not wearing her wedding ring? Gee, could they be having marriage problems? Whatever could be the problem?

    309. Phil says:

      Daily Kos, huh. How can you even tell the difference between them and NBC these days?

    310. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      National GE:
      Biden 49% (+1)
      Trump 48%
      .
      Bloomberg 48% (+1)
      Trump 47%
      .
      Trump 49% (+2)
      Sanders 47%
      .
      Trump 48% (+3)
      Buttigieg 45%
      .
      Trump 50% (+4)
      Warren 46%

      IBD/TIPP 1/23-30

      The Democrats impeachment gambit turned out to be a political disaster. It has greatly benefited Trump.

    311. lisab says:

      Republicans are going to go all “victim” from now on. They will never become self aware as to why people won’t date them. Expect the party to just become more concentrated evil.

    312. lisab says:

      Same reason why misogynists don’t understand why people won’t date them. There’s a reason why the incel + MGTOW movements exist – lack of self awareness. And yes… they’re all tRump voters.

    313. lisab says:

      I see current Trump supporters fall into one of a few categories and none of them are good:

      Racists and bigots. I dont really need to explain this one

      Moron who dont even follow politics. These people voted for Trump because they think he says funny sht. They dont even know what is going on in US politics at all.

      Uber rich people. Trump has been shoveling money their way since day 1.

      True believers. These are the incels, mgtow, redpill, etc. These people might literally believe Trump is sent from god or any other number of insane thing. They are morons too for sure, but they’re a dangerous type that can’t be swayed by facts or reality. Trump is basically their god.

    314. lisab says:

      Yup they wouldn’t even care if they had daughters that were forced into marriages and raped. That’s how far gone these people are.
      —————————————

      yet … the dems support taking in jihadists?

    315. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      @319 – wow, Ill happily take that

    316. jason says:

      If those were the numbers on election day Trump would win all the states he won in 2016 again… against Biden and Bloomberg and by wider margins against the others.

    317. jason says:

      I don’t know where I fit in on that list.

      I hope I am the dangerous type though.

    318. NYCmike says:

      One of my wife’s friends husbands, a real loon – he was ranting and raving about Trump this, Trump that….so I asked him if he knew about a couple of details pertinent to the “outrage” he was screaming about…..his answer was “I don’t watch any of this cr*p about politics!”.

      Typical behavior.

      LOVE IT!

    319. jason says:

      Messy Moron is going to agree with all of lisab’s posts in 3,2,1…

    320. NYCmike says:

      “There’s a reason why the incel + MGTOW movements exist”

      -Need dictionary for these.

      What do “incel” and “MGTOW” mean?

      And while you’re at it, what does the “cisgender” word come from??

    321. Phil says:

      Yeah, those are good numbers for Trump.

      It will be interesting if the Democrats turn to little Mike once Biden implodes. The man has enough money to saturate the airways for months.

    322. NYCmike says:

      #328 – HEH!

      She’ll be like “Look at the influence I have at HHR!”.

    323. lisab says:

      incel: INvoluntarily CELibate, think robbie

      mgtow: Men Going Their Own Way. straight men who at least think they are without female companionship because they choose to not have girlfriends — they especially do not like feminists, which is why the “gave up” women

      cisgender: those who have a gender identity that matches the biological sex they were assigned at birth … boys with a penis, girls with a va jay jay … cis is latin and is sort of an antonym of trans

    324. NYCmike says:

      “think robbie”

      -LOL!

    325. NYCmike says:

      Thanks!

    326. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Lisa- how many genders are we up to now vs last year?

    327. lisab says:

      Education Department Whistleblower Forced Out After Exposing Push Against Trans Athletes

      Bensing’s saga started last summer, after the Alliance for Defending Freedom (ADF) ? an anti-LGBTQ hate group, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center ? filed a complaint with the Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights. The complaint challenged a Connecticut policy that allows transgender athletes to compete on the team that aligns with their gender identity, saying it gives an unfair physical advantage to athletes who were born male but now identify as female.

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    329. lisab says:

      sorry, that is

      physical traits/personality/preference

    330. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Sweet God- Sorry I asked

    331. lisab says:

      “think robbie”

      -LOL!
      ————————-

      yeah … we had a meeting

      the vote wasn’t close

    332. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      30. At this point the leading Democratic candidates are:

      Biden, whose mental state seems to be increasingly declining as the campaign goes along;

      Sanders, a far leftist Bolshevik who plans to by executive orders turn the U.S. into a communist state;

      Granny Dearest, who falsely claimed to be an American Indian to further her academic career; but now sees herself as a 1630’s Puritan who will restore virtue and stern leftist values to weak and decadent America.

      No wonder the Democrats are panicking.

    333. Phil says:

      Yes, I think it goes without saying that Trump intends to shut down voting in California. That is a given, isn’t it?

    334. lisab says:

      Don’t Blame Bat Soup for the Wuhan Virus

      Racist memes target Chinese eating habits, but the real causes of the coronavirus are more mundane.
      —————

      the filthy streets of china perhaps?

    335. lisab says:

      Yes, I think it goes without saying that Trump intends to shut down voting in California. That is a given, isn’t it?
      ————————–

      it is like they never heard of the electoral college

    336. jason says:

      Well, look at where voting has gotten California…

      I rest my case.

    337. Scooterboy says:

      346. “Well, look at where voting has gotten California…”

      You can add Illinois to that list.

    338. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Imagine Donald Trump deciding sometime in June,. .. California has to undergo extreme vetting because we can’t trust their votes. We’re going to shut down voting in a state.’”

      California will mail out absentee ballots early next week for the March primary.

    339. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Happily Murkowski has ended the controversy over whether Chief Justice Roberts can vote to break a tie. Mitch McConnell does not get enough credit for how well he runs the Senate — he is one of Trump’s best assets.

    340. Ron N says:

      322. I think you miss a group. People that think the Dems are
      Just to crazy to give power.

    341. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Trump Job Approval:
      Approve 51%
      Disapprove 47%

      Zogby Analytics 1/15-16

      2020 National GE:
      Bloomberg 45% (+2)
      Trump 43%

      Trump 46%
      Biden 46%

      Trump 47% (+2)
      Sanders 45%

      Trump 47% (+5)
      Warren 42%

      Trump 46% (+5)
      Buttigieg 41%

      Trump 47% (+7)
      Klobuchar 40

      Zogby Analytics 1/15-16

    342. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      “If you will it, ’tis no dream” —–>

      Bloomberg surges past Warren into third place in new national poll

      https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/480721-bloomberg-surges-past-warren-into-third-place-in-new-national-poll

      Smokin’ Joe 29
      Old Man Stalin 17
      Little Mike 11
      Lieawatha 9

    343. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Murkowski’s statement:

      “I worked for a fair, honest, and transparent process, modeled after the Clinton trial, to provide ample time for both sides to present their cases, ask thoughtful questions, and determine whether we need more.

      The House chose to send articles of impeachment that are rushed and flawed. I carefully considered the need for additional witnesses and documents, to cure the shortcomings of its process, but ultimately decided that I will vote against considering motions to subpoena.

      Given the partisan nature of this impeachment from the very beginning and throughout, I have come to the conclusion that there will be no fair trial in the Senate. I don’t believe the continuation of this process will change anything. It is sad for me to admit that, as an institution, the Congress has failed.

      It has also become clear some of my colleagues intend to further politicize this process, and drag the Supreme Court into the fray, while attacking the Chief Justice. I will not stand for nor support that effort. We have already degraded our institution for partisan political benefit, and I will not enable those who wish to pull down another.

      We are sadly at a low point of division in this country.”

    344. Phil says:

      Shocking Tweet from Jennifer Rubin. She now says Lisa Murkowski is “dumb”. Gee, I didn’t see that tweet coming did any of you?

      Poor, Jenny. She is so angry. Anyone who doesn’t vote the way she wants is either “dumb” “a hack” or “covering for a criminal”….or “hates the Constitution”.

    345. Phil says:

      Looks like the trial will go onto Wednesday.

      Unbelievable.

    346. dblaikie says:

      I guess the NYT has not learned that they can’t keep on publishing half baked “bombshells.” And think that they will be taken seriously. I guess in all their intellectual, elitist, brilliance they never read Peter and the Wolf.

    347. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The liberals are throwing in the towel; Sarah Isgur from CNN:

      “Constitutionally speaking, presidential impeachments were intended to act as a check on the presidency by the legislative branch. But an impeachment trial is not the same as a judicial trial. It does not require a crime to have been committed, and senators are not acting as jurors.
      If this trial is simply a partisan exercise in which both sides are trying to score political points with their voters before November, perhaps it’s time to end the debate on witnesses and move on to more important issues — such as creating a better system of paid family leave or why black women are three times as likely to die in childbirth as their Hispanic and non-Hispanic white counterparts.”

    348. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      Err… I meant @358

    349. Phil says:

      Schumer says the final vote should be delayed ‘so more information from Bolton can come out”. Geez.

      Ok, I’m done commenting on anything else regarding this circus. The Democrats will never let this end. It goes on and on and on…forever. Kind of like Democrats do vote recounts. Keep counting until they take the lead. In this case, keep litigating until they get the desired verdict.

      Waste of my time. I’m out. Guys, have a good weekend and and early part of next week. See ya.

    350. NYCmike says:

      NOTHING from “CG” and Robbie about President Trump, along with the leaders of Israel and many other middle east countries, about a plan to give the Palestinians their own state……..the narrative about Trump being a bully and not working with other countries slides by the wayside with no acknowledgement from those 2.

    351. Tina says:

      Lol

      Rose
      @rosedixontx
      ·
      6h
      HUGE: When MSNBC’s Katy Tur says ..

      WE COULDN’T EVEN GET IN RALLY IN IOWA! ??

      “7,000 people inside that arena”

      “It was so packed … A stark contrast from the Democrats so far in Iowa.”

    352. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      359. The Democrats seem to be using impeachment as a diversion from dealing with the fact they are facing disaster in choosing an electable candidate to run against Trump. Pelosi has already stated that Trump needed to be impeached because otherwise he might be re-elected.

      The Mueller investigation crashed, and impeachment is now crashing; now they are looking look at their horrible field of candidates and realizing there may be four more years of Trump.

    353. Tina says:

      I still believe in the Mueller investigation.

      -Jebot

    354. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      The hyperbolic butthurt on Twitter today is freaking glorious

    355. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      The United States apparently ended this morning, in case anyone didn’t know

    356. NYCmike says:

      “The United States apparently ended this morning, in case anyone didn’t know”

      -You’re right!

      I just looked out the window and the sun is setting!

      OH NO!! DOOMED! ALL TRUMP’S FAULT!

    357. DW says:

      Betelgeuse just went super-nova

    358. DW says:

      of course what I just said about Betelgeuse would be impossible to know, because if it just happened, we wouldn’t see it until over 600 years from now.

    359. George says:

      Just shows how much pressure and money the globalists have on the Dems and media. The lunacy of Dem/media complex just keeps expanding as their ongoing futile efforts to bring down Trump continue to fail.

    360. Scooterboy says:

      Jonathon Turley-“This is why I told the Judiciary Committee that it was a monumental mistake to rush the impeachment vote on an incomplete record and hand over their case to the other house and the opposing party. This will go down as a blunder of historic measure by the House Leadership”

    361. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      McConnell has issued a statement after the vote to block witnesses:

      “A majority of the U.S. Senate has determined that the numerous witnesses and 28,000-plus pages of documents already in evidence are sufficient to judge the House Managers’ accusations and end this impeachment trial.

      There is no need for the Senate to re-open the investigation which the House Democratic majority chose to conclude and which the Managers themselves continue to describe as “overwhelming” and “beyond any doubt.” Never in Senate history has this body paused an impeachment trial to pursue additional witnesses with unresolved questions of executive privilege that would require protracted litigation. We have no interest in establishing such a new precedent, particularly for individuals whom the House expressly chose not to pursue.

      Senators will now confer among ourselves, with the House Managers, and with the President’s counsel to determine next steps as we prepare to conclude the trial in the coming days.”

    362. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Being from Utah, and admiring many things Mitt Romney did running the SLC Olympics and otherwise, I have often praised and defended him, including on this board. He is dead to me now.

    363. Messy says:

      I guess the compromise was to deny the president his Superbowl/STOU victory lap. The vote was shameful. Trump is the enemy of both God and the American people.

    364. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Messy, don’t have a meltdown. Just look at the good side, you only have five more years of Trump as president.

    365. Scooterboy says:

      373. Lol. In total meltdown mode.

    366. Messy says:

      no, only 11 months.

    367. Victrc says:

      Just how much are Dems like Schumer total sc*mbaga? Now Schumer is going after trumps kids saying they may have financial interests in China or turkey and that’s why the trial needs to go on.

      Sorry Chuck. The only kid who was benefiting off of being in the White House was the BIDEN kid.

      I almost wish we had had witnesses so Biden and his son would have had to testify and outed the partisan whistleblower.

      This has been nothing short of a coup detat with the goal to either overturn the 2016 election or at a minimum influence the 2020 election. It’s transparant

    368. NYCmike says:

      “I guess the compromise was to deny the president his Superbowl/STOU victory lap. The vote was shameful. Trump is the enemy of both God and the American people.”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbdNgbCOq_s

    369. Tina says:

      Roberts just shot down Crying Schumah.

    370. Tina says:

      Roberts won’t intervene in 50-50 ties.

      Cites 1868 ties were done for admin purposes, such as adjourn.

      Jebot tears here:

      https://mobile.twitter.com/NewsBowne/status/1223403224348209216

    371. lisab says:

      Yes, I think it goes without saying that Trump intends to shut down voting in California. That is a given, isn’t it?

    372. lisab says:

      It’s now or never America, we need to organize a general strike, and we need to show our failed government we won’t be pushed down like this.

    373. lisab says:

      Let’s elect Joe Biden so we can heal these wounds and reach across the aisle to work with the GOP. /s

    374. lisab says:

      Is there any magical last-minute, showstopper move available? Like CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE UNITED STATES JOHN ROBERTS saying “I call to the stand Donald John Trump”… ……

    375. lisab says:

      At what point do we pick up arms and revolt?

      At what point will not doing so be too late?

    376. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Just to show out-of-touch Mitt Romney is with Utah.

      UTAH
      Trump 45% (+13)
      Bloomberg 32%

      Trump 49% (+18)
      Biden 31%

      Trump 50% (+19)
      Sanders 31%

      Trump 50% (+22)
      Warren 28%

      Trump 48% (+23)
      Buttigieg 25%

      Trump 49% (+26)
      Klobuchar 23%

      @hinckleyinst
      @DeseretNews
      1/15-22

    377. Tina says:

      Well, they said that Pierre wanted only Bolton as a witness.

      He is a POS.

    378. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      385. “At what point do we pick up arms and revolt?
      At what point will not doing so be too late?”

      Before the leftist think about armed revolt; they better keep in mind which segments of the population have the most guns. The people I know could aerate a leftist mob in short order.

    379. lisab says:

      I would argue that Russia controls USA right now. No other possible explanation. Their psychological warfare game is 21st century.

    380. lisab says:

      Probably unpopular and I hope it never gets to this point, but:

      The 2nd Amendment exists as a final check to a tyrannical government that no longer represents the will of the people. I don’t think we’re at the point of a tyrannical government yet, but today’s decision has essentially overturned our system of checks and balances, and gives the executive office carte blanche to do whatever the hell it wants without an effective means for the other branches to counteract it. And when the legislative, judicial, and executive branches are all stacked…

      To every liberal out there, as a liberal myself. Please arm yourselves. At least show them that you aren’t willing to be trampled underfoot if all political means are exhausted. Stop letting the NRA represent what it means to be a gun owner: a jackboot licking rube that looks to despotic governments with envy and relishes the day that “leftists” are put in their place.

    381. Victrc says:

      Where are you getting this stuff from lisab

    382. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      390. So leftists who want gun confiscation, are going to turn full circle and buy guns? The ones I know would never do that. For safety reasons, it is good they don’t. There is nothing more dangerous than an individual who buys a gun who does not know the rules of gun safety and proper gun use. They often end up shooting themselves.

      A person should not buy a gun unless they have spent a significant time at a gun range. Guns are extremely dangerous to those who do not know how to properly store and use them.

    383. PresidentPaul! says:

      Hope all of you are gold buyers. This could be a bumpy ride.

    384. lisab says:

      Where are you getting this stuff from lisab
      ———————-

      reddit.com/r/politics

      the snowflakes are pissed!

      there have been calls for a general strike! starbucks might have to shut down!

    385. Victrc says:

      Lol. No kidding

    386. lisab says:

      now … if the dems in the house had allowed the gop to call the witnesses they wanted

      they might have an argument,

      but they cannot get around the fact they have not identified a crime, or that there is an election soon

      pelosi and schumer should have known better

    387. lisab says:

      the snowflakes who call for arming themselves are the funniest ones

      assuming guns are not banned in their blue location,

      i don’t think i’d trust a bunch of snowflakes with guns

    388. Bitterlaw says:

      Good for Romney. Takes away the argument that Republicans are zombies voting blindly for Trump. McConnell probably approved it.

    389. mRviTO says:

      Romney is the real leader of the Republican Party… He approved the 51 votes against.

    390. Bitterlaw says:

      They should vote tonight. Enough.

    391. lisab says:

      I’m looking forward to the next administration with Schiff appointed as Attorney General with the ability do get to the bottom of all of this including corruption by Republican Senators.

    392. lisab says:

      Would anyone be interested in a citizen’s lawsuit that challenges the Senate Impeachment trial as unconstitutional? It is, after all, our Country.

      We have standing, he is our “President.”

      We have been harmed, by an unconstitutional trial.

      I guess the only way to resolve our lawsuit would be to… you know…

      Call witnesses, get evidence.

      Anyone game?

    393. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      398. Bitter. Will wrap Romney up and send him to you in Pennsylvania. He is from the East so will feel at home. He is only intolerably self-righteous about 35% of the time, otherwise very pleasant. His bad habit is being a vulture capitalist — don’t let him take over your lemonade stand, or he will sell it at a loss and leave you with the debt.

    394. lisab says:

      romney actually voted to have bolton and only bolton testify

    395. lisab says:

      We’ll be lucky if there’s an election at this point, and after today who’s gonna trust the result?

    396. lisab says:

      Huge props to Adam Schiff. I’ll never forget the moral courage he displayed the past few months. He’ll probably be the subject of even harsher hate campaigns now, so I really admire his effort. And man, those speeches. Too bad they fell on deaf ears.

    397. lisab says:

      DNC members discuss rules change to stop Sanders at convention

    398. Bitterlaw says:

      SD – In 1988 – 2012, I was honored to vote for Republicans for President. In 2016, I was compelled to vote against a Democrat and the disgusting means to do that was Trump.

    399. mRviTO says:

      “compelled”

      It was the Russian Facebook ads.

    400. mRviTO says:

      Julián Castro
      @JulianCastro
      · 3h
      When @CoryBooker led an effort to change the debate thresholds, the DNC refused—saying they couldn’t benefit any candidate.

      It seems the only candidate they’re willing to benefit is a billionaire who’s buying his way into the race. Total mess. https://twitter.com/politico/status/1223325410261377031

    401. lisab says:

      romney formally invited to cross over to democratic party … considering it

    402. lisab says:

      this is not my party

    403. lisab says:

      Susan Collins, Mitt Romney, and Lisa Murkowski have declared themselves trans-partisan extraterrestrials

    404. lisab says:

      Would it work for Mitt Romney to change parties, win the Democratic nomination, then beat Trump in the 2020 election?

    405. lisab says:

      Romney Spoke to Pelosi and ‘Assured’ Her There Was Republican Senate Support to Remove Trump

    406. lisab says:

      I would Support Romney in a US Government Takeover -He seems to be one of the few (very few) somewhat honest people in DC

    407. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      417. The Democrats are just using Mitt Romney, they want nothing to do with him. Remember how they attacked him in 2012 for being an ogre and vulture capitalist? For whatever reason Romney craves adulation. Maybe the attacks in 2012 hurt his self-image, and he is attempting show the Democrats he is really a wonderful person. Some of it may be that he lost, and is jealous of Trump because Trump won.

    408. lisab says:

      many if not most of the republican leaders said one thing during their elections

      and then governed as open-borders wall street types

      they want trump to be as unsuccessful as possible, except on judges

    409. Bitterlaw says:

      Trump used the Republican Party to get a nomination. He would have run as a Dem except Hillary was going to get it. I’m sure SD was ok with that level of chicanery.

    410. Bitterlaw says:

      Trump vs Romney in 2020? I am glad I won’t be put to the test on that one.

      If Tina ran CPAC, nobody would be good enough to get an invitation from her.

    411. jason says:

      Looks like there are some Amoral Scumbag on the Dem side…

      “DES MOINES, Iowa — A small group of Democratic National Committee members has privately begun gauging support for a plan to potentially weaken Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign and head off a brokered convention.”

    412. jason says:

      So, Romney is a despicable cad and MSM toady, but we knew that.

      However, I still think he will vote to acquit because he can no longer do any real damage, helping Schiff continue to make a joke of the impeachment process was his big goal.

      Now that the strategy flopped, he will vote to acquit. Scumbag.

    413. PresidentPaul! says:

      Bernie is corrupt as fu.ck. Dude stoke 83 million from taxpayers.

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/01/schweizer-reveals-in-new-book-bernie-sanders-became-very-wealthy-by-funneling-huge-sums-of-taxpayer-money-to-family-members

      “They funneled $83 million through this media-buying company, which was located in a house on a cul-de-sac in suburban Virginia,” he continued. “Had no website, had no presence whatsoever. That company was run by two of Bernie Sanders’ wife’s friends. When she was asked about her connection or relationship to that firm, she hung up on a local Vermont reporter. So there are various ways taxpayer money, school money other things that have flowed to the family and have made the Sanders family very very wealthy.”

    414. PresidentPaul! says:

      Just like the communists in Venezuela that steal the money to give to their party members, Bernie just steals the money for his family members.

      Wish Trump would attack him on this. He’s vulnerable on it.

    415. PresidentPaul! says:

      btw I’ve already been proved right about McCain on this forum when I insisted that Palin was an idiot for being on the ticket with this guy.

      If Romney votes to impeach Trump, I’ll be proven right ONE AGAIN that voting for Romney in 2012 general election was the dumbest move primary voters could make.

    416. Wes says:

      Rashida Tlaib is a rage-filled White Man now.

      Who knew?

      https://mobile.twitter.com/neeratanden/status/1223463584694439936?s=19

    417. NYCmike says:

      “Trump used the Republican Party to get a nomination. He would have run as a Dem except Hillary was going to get it. I’m sure SD was ok with that level of chicanery.”

      -“used”?
      More like asked for Republican primary voters support by explaining how he would govern, the voters trusted him to do so, and he won.

      And then he kept a lot of his promises, which is why he will again be supported by those voters in 2020.

      Other than signing into law the ridiculous budgets sent to him by Congress, President Trump has been fantastic!

      If that is how you define “used” then I hope I get 4 more years of it, and the next Republican person continues in that regard.

    418. NYCmike says:

      Full disclosure: If I had become a Senator, I would definitely have used that position to send work towards family and friends. I would not have broken the law to do so, but I would have shown any interested parties the way to go about trying to get contracts from the federal government.

    419. Tina says:

      Bl, don’t be mad that Pierre was outed. I told you the witness he wanted to hear from. I can understand why the Maine Chicklet did what she did,but not Quittens.

      Quittens lies during this whole process. He said he would “wait until the end” to decide on witnesses. After the first 2 hours of trumps defense, the Bolton sheot came out. Quittens folded.

      Quittens only wanted Bolton.

    420. Tina says:

      so true.

      John Hayward
      @Doc_0
      The best part about Bernie winning the Dem nomination would be the windy lectures from NeverTrump grifters who claim to be Ronald Reagan superfans about how defending True Conservatism requires putting a communist in power

      625
      8:44 AM – Jan 31, 2020

    421. Tina says:

      And no excuse for scumbags behavior.

      The senate judges during an impeachment. They judge based on the houses record. The house had 18 witnesses. Schiftty held one witness back (Ig Atkinson) because he was a disaster for Schiffty and exposed the witness tampering between them. Yes, Atkinson is a coup plotter. His earlier role was FISA ABUSES.

      Again, I can see why the Maine Chicklet did what she did. She wanted witnesses from the very beginning. Romney said he would wait until he heard everything, but actually wanted only witnesses against Trump. In short, Romney is a liar.

    422. NYCmike says:

      Maine Chicklet has some rope to work with for sure, and needs it in Maine.

      No excuse for Romney. He is one bitter man!

    423. NYCmike says:

      https://victorygirlsblog.com/rand-paul-versus-john-roberts-and-the-deep-state/

      -The way Paul explains it, I don’t see why the question couldn’t be answered by Roberts.

    424. Victrc says:

      Some observations.

      I’m OK with collins voting for witnesses. Elections have consequences and she’s in one. We need her in the Senate.

      Trump was always going to get impeached. They would’ve found something eventually and put him up for impeachment. That die was cast in November 2016. He committed the cardinal sin of defeating Hillary. They would have done the same to Rubio, or any other R (including Lord Jeb).

      I’m disappointed in Romney. There’s room for him in the Republican Party, we should have as big a tent as we can have. Both can be true

    425. NYCmike says:

      Victrc,

      I am not throwing Romney out of the party.

      I am only saying there is no excuse for his actions. The majority of his state constituents are not calling for more witnesses, they know this is a sham hearing, and he has no worries about re-election. He is only doing this to curry favor with people who would look to destroy him again the same way they did in 2012.

    426. Victrc says:

      I am not disagreeing with the fact that he probably could have had ulterior motive‘s, his dislike Trump, for voting the way he did.

      One other theory, though, is that he was providing cover for Collins. If she had been the only one voting for Bolton from the R side it would’ve looked suspicious. By having Romney vote yes as well, (for only Bolton as well) and even having Murkowski and Alexander consider voting yes, it makes Collins vote more legitimate.

    427. Bitterlaw says:

      429 Proven right once again? I must have missed the first time Bunu was right.

    428. jason says:

      Pass the popcorn….

      The filmmaker Michael Moore, appearing Friday night at a Sanders rally in Clive, Iowa, went on a long, loud tirade against the party.

      Michael Moore

      “I watched the debate in Iowa here two weeks ago — the all white debate — and the fact that the Democratic, the DNC will not allow Cory Booker on that stage, will not allow Julian Castro on that stage, but they are going to allow Mike Bloomberg on the stage?” Moore roared. “Because he has a billion f*cking dollars!”

    429. NYCmike says:

      “One other theory, though, is that he was providing cover for Collins.”

      -Point granted.

      Maybe he does have an excuse to be a weasel, this time.

    430. jason says:

      429 Proven right once again? I must have missed the first time Bunu was right.”

      I missed that too.

      I could search the records but the odds are so low I will just assume it it one of Bunu’s delusions.

      “Iowa is Paul country!”

    431. NYCmike says:

      Instapundit had a good lead-in for this link:

      “AND WEIRDLY, SHORTLY AFTER THAT THEY WERE VISITED BY A PLAGUE. JUST SAYIN’.” Xi Jinping Portraits Replace Catholic Symbols in Churches.

      https://bitterwinter.org/xi-jinping-portraits-replace-catholic-symbols/

    432. NYCmike says:

      This is a gift for “CG”, Robbie and other #NeverTrumpers & liberals who visit HHR….

      https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/elections/2016/06/calm-down-trump-wont-be-president-and-britain-wont-leave-eu

    433. jason says:

      Maybe he does have an excuse to be a weasel, this time.”

      Zzzzz….

      I think it was Confucius who said:

      “He who never misses an opportunity to be a weasel is in fact a weasel”

    434. jason says:

      I am searching the annals.

      Bunu could have been right predicting a win for Ron or Rand Paul over 151 primaries and caucuses.

      Let’s see….

      Nope.

    435. Bitterlaw says:

      Remember when Trump said he would be fine with witnesses at the trial? Romney remembered. HHR clearly does not.

    436. NYCmike says:

      “I am searching the annals.”

      -This one loves to do that!

    437. jason says:

      Corey and Amoral Scumbag must be on suicide watch.

      But they should look at the bright side.

      Like fellow conservative Jennifer Rubin, they were alive at a time they could hear Adam Schiff speak.

    438. NYCmike says:

      Bitterlaw,

      NO, we remember.

      Trump would want ALL of the witnesses to be heard, to blow the roof off that dome of hot air down in D.C.

      How come Romney hasn’t been calling for the Bidens to be heard from? Because he is a weasel, like Confucious said!

    439. jason says:

      Ma, that annals bait always gets a rise.

    440. Tina says:

      They have to keep Dumberg on stage. Face it, the others are not drawing $ and their crowd sizes at events are maybe 50 people soaking wet.

      Have you seen the reports of trumps Iowa rally vs the drats events?

      The Iowa rally was so large that media could not even get in. (Katy Turd)

    441. Tina says:

      Remembered when Quittens said that he would decide on witnesses after he “heard all sides?”

      Yet Quittens demanded Bolton asa witness after the gossip about the moustache broke. I guess he could not wait to hear all sides. Trump was over 2 hours into his defense at the time.

      We know the witness Bolton wanted and they were Bolton only.

      He has been exposed for the lying scumbag that he is,

    442. jason says:

      Remember when Trump said he would be fine with witnesses at the trial? Romney remembered. HHR clearly does not.”

      That dog won’t hunt.

      Trump wanted Hunter Biden and Schiff and others that would have shown that not only he was right to be concerned about corruption in the Ukraine but also to show the whole impeachment charade was engineered by partisan politics.

      Romney knew that was not in the cards, but he wanted Bolton because even though it would not change anything, it just might just drag out the trial for months and hopefully help the Democrats damage Trump, while at the same time getting him more headlines at Drudge and interviews at CNN and MSNBC.

      That makes him a scumbag.

    443. jason says:

      “Romney remembered. HHR clearly does not.”

      I am going to translate what Bitter is saying here…

      That somehow the reason Romney is a scumbag weasel on this is because he wanted to accommodate Trump’s wishes of having more witnesses.

      LMAO. You can’t make this sh-t up.

    444. jason says:

      OK, reading that over, I think I might have been had.

      Good bait, Bitter.

    445. Bitterlaw says:

      So if Romney wanted Bolton as a witness, what would stop the other GOP Senators from calling Schiff and the Bidens?

    446. Tina says:

      I like the Lawless Republicans. No due process, no concern for trumps lawyers not being able to question the 18 house witnesses, no concern with trump not being able to call any witnesses in the house, and not allowing for Rs to have a minority hearing.

      Witnesses should have been done on the house side,

      Not the senate side,

    447. Tina says:

      I don’t know why Republicans always want to negotiate with Liars.

      Tweets & replies
      Media
      Likes
      Jack Posobiec??’s Tweets

      Jack Posobiec??
      @JackPosobiec
      ·
      24s
      BREAKING: Schumer cut deal with McConnell to end impeachment Wednesday only after the SOTU meant as payback for Clinton’s 1999 SOTU delivered during his impeachment trial

    448. Tina says:

      Surprised that this “best deal Rs could get”, was not negotiated by Goober on Pawn Hannitys show. And why as the winning party, are we negotiating from weakness?

      Tweets & replies
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      Jack Posobiec??’s Tweets

      Jack Posobiec??
      @JackPosobiec
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      BREAKING: Schumer cut deal with McConnell to end impeachment Wednesday only after the SOTU meant as payback for Clinton’s 1999 SOTU delivered during his impeachment trial

    449. Tina says:

      Best deal Rs could get

      Chad Pergram
      @ChadPergram
      · 15h
      “It was the best deal McConnell could get,” said one Republican source on delaying the verdicts in the Senate trial until next week. “The Administration is pleased that this is the best the Republican Senate could do to shorten the process.”

    450. Tina says:

      Seems like Bolton was paid off by corrupt Ukrainians. The same corrupt Ukrainians that bought access through the Clinton Foundation.

      https://nationalfile.com/john-bolton-took-six-figures-from-ukrainian-oligarch-clinton-foundation-donor/

    451. PresidentPaul! says:

      Buy gold, start selling folks. There is too much risk. I sold most of what I own thurs but not enough. If monday market doesn’t collapse maybe you can still get a decent price.

    452. Phil says:

      Just stopped by to add my two cents about Romney. He is indeed a POS.

      Have a nice day.

    453. mRviTO says:

      Not much time left to vote in the liberal hack final four on comfortably smug twitter…

      The field of 64 is down to Acosta vs Rubin

      and Maddow vs Stelter

      At this point, I’d go with Rubin and Stelter… Rubin has been working hard for it.

    454. NYCmike says:

      “BREAKING: Schumer cut deal with McConnell to end impeachment Wednesday only after the SOTU meant as payback for Clinton’s 1999 SOTU delivered during his impeachment trial”

      -No problem with this…..if any Democratic representative wears a blue dress the night of the SOTU, Trump may ask if it is the same designer as Monica’s.

    455. mRviTO says:

      Bill Kristol
      @BillKristol
      With Republican elected officials in full acquiescence mode, Republican donors in full rationalization mode, and Republican voters in full tribalism mode, what’s a Never Trump Republican to do? Presumably what we can to help Democrats be as responsible an alternative as possible?

      …………………..

      The best part is all the responses are Democrats showing they aren’t the least bit interested in being a responsible alternative.

    456. Tina says:

      The Reckoning ?
      @sethjlevy
      ·
      34m
      5/

      This video of Bolton saying something very interesting breaks in the last few days and is tweeted out by
      @TrumpWarRoom
      .

      Bolton says “I am making the case for…deception in the execution of national security affairs…where that is appropriate”

      https://twitter.com/trumpwarroom/status/1223343068012797952?s=21

    457. Tina says:

      What is a never trump to do?

      Vote for the commie,

      Because muh conservatism.

    458. PresidentPaul! says:

      Bolton was always there to sabotage the administration just as McCain was there to sabotage the GOP when he had the nomination.

      It’s a great that Obama defeated him.

    459. Bitterlaw says:

      So the new standard is that anytime a Republican does not vote in support of Trump, they are a POS? Good to know.

      “But Bitter. It was ok for Collins to vote against witnesses because she does not hate Trump” in 3…2…1…

      GFY

    460. mRviTO says:

      I’m pretty sure they were all calling him a POS before this vote, too.

    461. PresidentPaul! says:

      “Hong Kong Medical Workers Vote to Strike (9:14 a.m. NY)
      Thousands of Hong Kong medical professionals voted to begin a five-day strike Monday after the government refused their demand to shut all entry points from China amid the deadly virus outbreak on the mainland.

      The Hospital Authority Employees Alliance said about 99% of votes cast were for “Yes.” More than 9,000 members have pledged to take part, first in suspending non-emergency services offered by the city’s Hospital Authority before extending it to providing only limited emergency needs, it sai…”

    462. NYCmike says:

      It is very weird…..I always understood why Trump repulsed people.

      I can even understand people abstaining from voting for anyone at the top of the ticket.

      BUT, I am not sure I will ever understand the #NeverTrumper STILL being against President Trump. His actions the last 3+ years have been as conservative as any of the other candidates who would have received their votes in 2016, if not more conservative………..ohhhhh, ah hah, maybe I do understand their motives now……..

    463. PresidentPaul! says:

      Targeting these Chinese seems racist though.

    464. PresidentPaul! says:

      Democrats could consider going to China to prove they aren’t racist.

    465. PresidentPaul! says:

      How does Merkel plan to pay for the EU now?

      http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1580567765982.jpg

    466. PresidentPaul! says:

      Shenzhen (china manufacturing hub) is a city of 26 million completely shut down. Empty streets.

      https://twitter.com/IsChinar/status/1223644702177660929?s=20

      Chinese military dressed in hazmat suits roaming around and all information out of the country now controlled by state media.

      Dry Baltic shippingindex fell 100% this week.

    467. PresidentPaul! says:

      New Wuhan hospital actually equipped with 5g hubs for the coming iphones.

      https://twitter.com/kevincarrico/status/1223603130136330246

    468. Bitterlaw says:

      Some people at HHR used to say character matters. They ditched that for Trump.

      Trump is scum. My vote AGAINST the Democrat nominee will go in his favor in PA. If I lived in Utah, I would vote for Romney in the GOP primary and GE the next time he runs.

      I can handle complexity.

    469. Phil says:

      No, bitter. ‘’Not anytime’’….but on this one. Yeah. You bet your ass. He wants to vote witnesses for the defense? Fine and dandy….but at the same time voting none for the President? Seriously? What, Schiff’s one sided kangaroo court in the House wasn’t slanted enough for Mitt? He wants to extend the one sided farce to the senate? Schumer had to be thrilled. The vast majority of Mitt’s constituents in Utah? Uh, no.

      Hey, but he’s a hit now with the Georgetown dinner party circuit….you know, the very ones who trashed him non stop in 2012 BTW. Just what we need. Another useful idiot on our side of the aisle. Thanks, Mitt.

    470. PresidentPaul! says:

      Mitt’s the ultimate opportunist politically. I’d be surprised if he votes to impeach. However, If he votes to impeach Trump, we will at least know that Trump drove him to lose him marbles.

    471. NYCmike says:

      “Some people at HHR used to say character matters. They ditched that for Trump.”

      -It does matter. Last time, Trump was clearly the candidate with more character when compared to Hillary.

      Then, as President, he has shown himself to be of pretty high moral character. He said what he was going to do, and has actually tried to follow through on those promises.

    472. PresidentPaul! says:

      5 frickin G right smackdab in the zombie apocalypse.

      I never watched the walking dead but did they have 5g?

    473. Tina says:

      Character assassination.

      Lol

    474. NYCmike says:

      https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/02/the-week-in-pictures-celebrexit-edition.php

      -On the bottom, there is a link to a Margaret Thatcher outtake, which then got me to watch her in this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv5t6rC6yvg

      DANG! She must have had a YUGE set!

    475. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      February 1, 2020 at 11:22 am

      So if Romney wanted Bolton as a witness, what would stop the other GOP Senators from calling Schiff and the Bidens?

      Sscumbag Romney never stated he wanted to hear from Schiff and the Bidens, because that wouldn’t help the Democrats.

      He only wanted to hear from Bolton because he thought that was the most damaging to Trump

      “After Republican Utah Sen. Mitt Romney reiterated his desire to hear testimony from former National Security Adviser John Bolton on Monday morning, his office would not say whether Romney also supports calls to bring in Hunter Biden, Joe Biden, Adam Schiff, or the so-called whistleblower to testify before the Senate.”

    476. jason says:

      Some people at HHR used to say character matters.”

      It does.

      Scumbag Romney has none.

    477. jason says:

      So the new standard is that anytime a Republican does not vote in support of Trump, they are a POS?”

      Zzzzzzz.. I don’t care how Romney votes in the Senate if he doesn’t agree with Trump. I hope he votes against all of Trump’s big government bills and against Trump’s AFL-CIO agenda 100% of the time.

      However, his vote for witnesses was only to try to help Schumer and Schiff try to damage Trump as much as possible when everyone, including Romney, Schiff and Schumer already knew the outcome of the trial. There is no other reason and you know it.

      Plus, he knew Trump would assert executive privilege, he knew Bolton should not talk about conversations with the President, and that the only result of calling Bolton would be to delay the trial for weeks if not months.

      That makes him a scumbag POS.

    478. NYCmike says:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nelftg5W0I8

      -Something totally different…..never really knew Ray Charles before this! Remember watching this with my parents, siblings, and a cousin who would eat with us every Thursday night. Great times!

    479. NYCmike says:

      Phylicia Ayers-Rashad was a sexy woman…..and it seems with 3+ marriages, she liked to spread it around some.

    480. NYCmike says:

      A B C

    481. Chicon says:

      484 – “I can handle complexity.”

      Bitter does comedy!

      Mr. Black and White can handle complexity. I love this place.

    482. Cash Cow TM says:

      DRUDGE

      Herpes-infected monkeys spreading across USA after escaping park…

    483. jason says:

      I wouldn’t vote for scumbag Romney for dogcatcher in York county, even if he was running against Michael Moore.

      I find the argument that if Trump is scum then it is ok for Romney to be scum unpersuasive.

    484. jason says:

      Maybe Bitter can explain what was Romney’s real motive in voting for witnesses when he knows it is just a delay/fishing expedition by the Dems and that the majority of his caucus was against it AND that Trump will be acquitted anyway.

      Character? Nah.

      Search for the truth? Nah.

      Let me give you two easy answers.

      Damage Trump and help socialists win the GE? Bingo

      Endear yourself to the Dems and the left wing media? Bingo

    485. jason says:

      I can handle complexity.”

      Translation: I don’t like Trump because he is scum. Romney might be scum too but at least he doesn’t like Trump either.

      This is so opposite to complexity that even Messy Moron could understand it.

    486. Tina says:

      The socialist son:

      Bill Kristol
      @BillKristol
      · 3h
      Not presumably forever; not perhaps for a day after Nov. 3, 2020; not on every issue or in every way until then. But for the time being one has to say: We are all Democrats now.

    487. PresidentPaul! says:

      Nevertrumpers are desperate to stop Bernie because they want a Jeb! they can support in the general.

    488. NYCmike says:

      “Not presumably forever; not perhaps for a day after Nov. 3, 2020; not on every issue or in every way until then. But for the time being one has to say: We are all Democrats now.”

      -“CG”, Robbie,

      Are you brave enough to tell the truth like Bill Kristol?

    489. mRviTO says:

      “We are all Democrats now.”

      Now?

    490. jason says:

      At least Kristol now admits he is a Democrat.

      And that his fellow Never Trumpers are Democrats.

      They are all out of the closet.

    491. jason says:

      But hey, these Democrats think they are the “real” Republican Party.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    492. jason says:

      -How do some of you not love Ted Cruz!?!?”

      Grandstanding ass?

    493. jason says:

      Supposedly, NOBODY in the Senate likes Ted Cruz.

      But he will be happy NYC likes him, as they say, there is always someone for everyone.

      Lindsey Graham: “If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you.”

    494. jason says:

      But if it makes NYC feel better, everything is relative.

      I like him a lot better than I like Rand Paul.

    495. jason says:

      I am thinking of registering as a Dem so I can vote for Sanders in the primary.

      Then Kristol and I would both be Democrats.

    496. Phil says:

      I’m definitely voting in the Texas Democratic Primary for Sanders. If being a Democrat is good enough for Bill Kristol it’s good enough for me.

      Go Bernie! We’re all Democrats now. LOL

    497. jason says:

      Looks like Mahwah is a hopping place…

      “A New Jersey mayor has apologized after getting so sloshed at a work party that he stripped off his trousers and passed out in a female employee’s bed.

      Mahwah Mayor John Roth was exposed after an anonymous letter signed by “concerned employees of the township of Mahwah” began circulating last week, according to report”

    498. jason says:

      What were the odds at Predictit last year that in 2020 Billy Kristol, Phil and jason would all be Democrats?

    499. jason says:

      And some of these people are “offended” when you call them Marxist Leninists….

      Hirono: We don’t care about your pesky little legal constitutional defenses.”

    500. Tina says:

      I think I will register as a decline to state to Drat (gulp) to vote for cccp.

    501. NYCmike says:

      “Lindsey Graham: “If you killed Ted Cruz on the floor of the Senate, and the trial was in the Senate, nobody would convict you.””

      -This was before he became Lindsay Granite!

      Now that he has found his gonads, he gets along better with Ted, and isn’t jealous of him.

    502. Bitterlaw says:

      Mahwah is a small town on the New Jersey/New York border. It has a cool name but nearly as cool as other New Jersey towns with Native American names. Ramapo and Ho-Ho-Kus
      are 2 of the best.

    503. Bitterlaw says:

      The irony meter exploded. Jason, MD and Author were the biggest Never Trumpers here in 2016. Jason is worried about Romney damaging Trump? Jason not voting for President in 2016 damaged Trump because it gave a 1 vote advantage to Hillary in a very tight race.

    504. Bitterlaw says:

      Another Operation Chaos? Great plan. The first one worked out so well. Just ask President Obama.

    505. Phil says:

      ….or we could all maybe just vote in the Republican Party Primary and cast a character vote for Mitt. After all, we’ve been assured he is the leader of the real Republican Party.

      Some leader, BTW.

    506. Bitterlaw says:

      I never said Romney was the leader of the Republican Party. Trump is probably going back to being a Democrat the day he leaves office.

    507. Phil says:

      Nope. That was Corey’s stupid quote last week.

    508. NYCmike says:

      “Trump is probably going back to being a Democrat the day he leaves office.”

      -The DAWG keeps trying to hunt!

    509. Victrc says:

      Bitter

      With all due respect ( and I mean that) while I do not like Trumps character, he has absolutely governed as the most conservative President since Reagan. By far.

      I disagree with some of his attacks, though like that he fights back (but wish he were more strategic about it). I don’t like his tariffs or spending, but give me the rest of his Presidency. He’s done exactly what he said he would, and that counts for something.

      He can go back to being a dem the day after he leaves office, as long as he keeps playing the part of a conservative Republican while in office.

      That doesn’t mean you have to like him personally.

      All can be true.

    510. mRviTO says:

      “Trump is probably going back to being a Democrat the day he leaves office.”

      Works for me.

    511. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      484. “If I lived in Utah, I would vote for Romney in the GOP primary and GE the next time he runs.”

      Bitter, you don’t live in Utah; I have lived and voted there much of my life, and it is a good possibility I will be living and voting there again soon.

      I am deeply offended by Romney’s conduct. He was an outsider who ran on representing “Utah values.” In fact, what he has done is hijack the Utah senate seat to carry on a grudge battle with Trump. This is not about Romney serving the people of Utah, — Romney appears to still resent he did not get appointed Secretary of State.

      The latest polling shows that Utah strongly supports Trump; his numbers are among the highest in the nation. Apparently my shift to supporting Trump may be reflective of this trend among Utah voters.

      I can only assume Romney ran for the Senate because he had national ambitions; and hopefully he will retire after his term ends. By the way, what happened to all those other Republican senators who Romney claimed would vote for witnesses? He really is politically isolated.

    512. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      I will again refer to the Utah polling from this previous post:

      UTAH
      Trump 45% (+13)
      Bloomberg 32%

      Trump 49% (+18)
      Biden 31%

      Trump 50% (+19)
      Sanders 31%

      Trump 50% (+22)
      Warren 28%

      Trump 48% (+23)
      Buttigieg 25%

      Trump 49% (+26)
      Klobuchar 23%

      @hinckleyinst
      @DeseretNews
      1/15-22

    513. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      From an NBC news story:

      “Recent polling in Utah bolsters the idea that Romney — who cruised to victory in 2018 with 63 percent of the vote and still receives plaudits among many residents for rescuing the troubled 2002 Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City — has seen his reputation suffer as he’s increased his criticism of the president.

      More than half of respondents (51 percent) to a UtahPolicy.com/Y2 Analytics poll last week said they “strongly” or “somewhat” disapproved of the job Romney was doing as senator. Respondents who identified as “strong Republicans” overwhelmingly disapproved of him.”

    514. Phil says:

      Politically “isolated” in the Senate? Yes, but not isolated in general. Mitt has his new two faced friends on the left to keep him company. Of course, they had no use for him in 2012, but hey, he’s useful to them now. He can actually be the toast of the beltway if he votes to convict. That ought to get him a guest spot on the Sunday talk shows whenever he wants. All he’ll have to do is pick up the phone and give Chuck Todd a ring. He doesn’t drink but he’ll have a permanent invite on the DC cocktail circuit.

      Sellout POS.

    515. Tgca says:

      Billy Kristol comes out as a Dem? Wow!

      Now if he would only come out as gay..,as if folks did not already know that.

    516. Tgca says:

      526

      Stoopid comment!

      Who cares what Trump’s politics are while he is a private citizen and not impacting policy? I care what his politics are as POTUS. He has governed as a strong center right POTUS…and rather a successful one too.

      Now STFU and go fold your sweaters or get ready for your flower show visit tomorrow and stop bending over with your Romney worshipping.

    517. mRviTO says:

      jon gabriel
      @exjon
      ·
      3h
      I wrote 1 op-ed about leaving the GOP. Had I known I could get it published twice a week for 3 years straight, I’d drive a lot nicer car. I’m terrible at this grifting st.uff.

    518. Scooterboy says:

      Why Adam Schiff doesn’t want anyone talking to the whistleblower.
      https://nypost.com/2019/12/30/why-adam-schiff-doesnt-want-anyone-talking-to-the-whistleblower/

    519. jason says:

      Jason is worried about Romney damaging Trump?”

      Huh, is Bitter really trying to make the point calling the witnesses and delaying the trial until God knows when wouldn’t be damaging to Trump?

    520. jason says:

      “Trump is probably going back to being a Democrat the day he leaves office.”

      This wouldn’t surprise me, but I would care about that as much as I cared that he was a Democrat before he became President.

    521. jason says:

      he gets along better with Ted, and isn’t jealous of him”

      LOL

      I doubt ANY senator is jealous of Ted Cruz.

      Maybe Rand Paul, who competes with him on who is the biggest grandstanding ass.

    522. jason says:

      It is obvious by now that Romney was just trying to help the Dems damage Trump politically and ingratiate himself with the left wing media. There is no other logical explanation.

      This will especially be true if he votes to acquit.

      I don’t really know why Bitter is defending that kind of thing.

    523. Bitterlaw says:

      Of course it would damage Trump. My point is that Jason is either a hypocrite or lied when he ended almost every post for more than a year with “Never Trump.” He was willing to let Hillary win. No different than Corey or Robbie. Remember that I don’t believe in redemption. Nothing Jason does in 2020 can make up for what he failed to do in 2016.

    524. jason says:

      Ok, this wins nutcase comment of the day, I saw it at Predictit, where Romney is 75-25 to acquit.

      “Very possible he votes to convict on both articles and becomes Bernie Sanders’s VP pick on a national unity/democratic-socialist-communist ticket”

    525. jason says:

      My point is that Jason is either a hypocrite or lied when he ended almost every post for more than a year with “Never Trump.”

      So I was Never Trump. You sound like Amoral Scumbag.

      After Trump has been President for 3 years, I take into consideration his record in office and changed my mind about him not being fit for office.

      I don’t know why that is a lie or hypocritical.

    526. jason says:

      I didn’t vote for Trump because I didn’t think he was fit for office.

      I was wrong about that. He is fit for office.

      Where is the hypocrisy exactly?

    527. Bitterlaw says:

      I guess the word “Never” has a different meaning in Q’chua.

    528. Tina says:

      Molly Hensley-Clancy
      @mollyhc
      · 23m
      New: The Iowa poll has been pulled from the front page of the @DMRegister print edition, per a USA Today source

    529. jason says:

      I guess the word “Never” has a different meaning in Q’chua.”

      Ahh, I see, because I was Never Trump before Trump was President I am not allowed to consider his record in office.

      Okayyy…

    530. Tina says:

      Seems fishy

      Jennifer Jacobs
      @JenniferJJacobs
      The voter was an Iowa City area man who says the Iowa Poll polltaker didn’t name Buttigieg when asked which candidate he preferred.

      Voter said when she read a new list, she mispronounced Buttigieg’s name.

    531. MichiganGuy says:

      @BillKristol

      Not presumably forever; not perhaps for a day after Nov. 3, 2020; not on every issue or in every way until then. But for the time being one has to say: We are all Democrats now.

      Tim Young
      ?
      @TimRunsHisMouth
      This is like your most flamboyant friend who attended 200+ Britney Spears concerts before achieving his lifelong dream of becoming a backup dancer for her FINALLY coming out to you as gay…

      Yeah, buddy… we ALL knew. LOL

    532. Tina says:

      Yikes

      Biden I forgot what the hell I want to say.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1223741446404091904

    533. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Like Jason, I was NeverTrump. The fact that both of us now support Trump says something.

      Trump only pulled 45% of the Utah vote in 2016. He may get about 60% in 2020. His performance in office has impressed a lot of people, who do not like him as a person.

    534. DW says:

      I was never-Trump right up to the moment I walked into the polls. I saw Pence’s name on the ballot, put my Thumb over Trump’s name and marked it for Pence. I know, that it means I voted for Trump, just telling you what I did. I was wrong that he wasn’t fit for the office. I still don’t like his personality and all his baggage, but he has done much better than many people ever imagined.

      Sanders will have a tough time trying to run against Trump in the general election. If he says the economy is horrible, he will look like a fool. If he says the economy is great then he will have to try to explain why he wants to change it from capitalist to communist, and he will look like a fool. He could still win, a lot of voters are fools too.

    535. Phil says:

      …and then there are those of us who voted Trump in 2016, but didn’t vote for him. Voted Trump to keep Hillary out of the WH. This time I’ll cast an enthusiastic vote for him character flaws or not. People like me won’t change his voting totals from last time since a vote is a vote unenthusiastic OR enthusiastic….however, I am, unlike last time, financially giving to his campaign.

    536. Tina says:

      Iowa appears over for China Biden.

      In one rally, 30 people were in attendance. 1 of the 30 was kicked out for CSU’s)g a scene

    537. Tina says:

      Causing*

    538. Phil says:

      I mean, let’s face it. There isn’t a lick of enthusiasm for Joe. The reason he does the best vs Trump is because he is the closest Democrats have to anything resembling a moderate. At least that is the perception mostly because the rest of the field is so whacko. Some Democrats think he might win vs Trump (due to his “moderation”), but there isn’t any passion for the guy beyond that.

      It is one thing to just show up and vote for a guy you think might be the strongest November candidate. Doesn’t take much time to cast a ballot. However, if your candidate doesn’t motivate you are you really going to spend a whole evening in a caucus meeting? For that reason I see him underperforming Monday night.

      Of course, for five months I thought Kamala would get the nomination so there is that. LOL

    539. jason says:

      Trump only pulled 45% of the Utah vote in 2016. He may get about 60% in 2020. His performance in office has impressed a lot of people, who do not like him as a person.”

      That was because favorite son McMullin got almost as many votes as Hillary.

      Romney doesn’t have to like Trump. He can disagree on policy. He doesn’t have to campaign for Trump. But his constituents don’t want a socialist elected as President and Romney should stop trying to help one get elected.

    540. jason says:

      Like Jason, I was NeverTrump. The fact that both of us now support Trump says something.”

      Yeah, according to Bitter, it makes us hypocrites.

      I would ask Bitter for some points, but I realize there would be a conflict of interest.

    541. jason says:

      Biden is still the best candidate for the Dems among the front runners.

      Their best candidate is Bloomberg, but as you can see from Michael Moore’s rally, the moonbats will fortunately reject him.

    542. PresidentPaul! says:

      Bloomberg television is must watch right now. Daybreak with Romaine Bostick, Jonathan Ferro, Tom Keene is phenomenal.

      Vs the other utter trash that fox news is putting out.

    543. Bitterlaw says:

      I helped Trump get elected. Jason did not. He can F’off at any time.

    544. PresidentPaul! says:

      Japan dumping 1.2 million tonnes of contaminated radioactive water in the ocean. Enjoy the seafood.

    545. PresidentPaul! says:

      https://twitter.com/IsChinar/status/1223825872697753601?s=20

      comrades we are selling masks if you want to order

    546. lisab says:

      “If he says the economy is horrible, he will look like a fool. If he says the economy is great then he will have to try to explain why he wants to change it from capitalist to communist”

      he will say it is great for billionaires and horrible for people who live in their parent’s basement

    547. lisab says:

      Biden to Voter in Iowa: “I’m beginning to see why your wife left you”

    548. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The solution for Democrats is to have Hillary Clinton as their vice presidential candidate, according to a former Bush official:

      “In October, President Trump rubbed salt into those wounds when he goaded Clinton to enter the 2020 race via a tweet: “I think that Crooked Hillary Clinton should enter the race to try and steal it away from Uber Left Elizabeth Warren.”
      Clinton immediately fired back on “PBS NewsHour”: “So maybe there does need to be a rematch. Obviously, I can beat him again.” That last word — “again” — referenced her popular vote count from 2016, and it is a fun and effective debate point, to be sure. Still, he — not she — is the president.
      But now, there is a new dynamic in play. Clinton arguably could greatly bolster the Democratic ticket as the vice presidential nominee. Knowing that, if I were on Team Trump, I would refrain from poking the tiger and setting off her supporters. The president’s team would be wise to remember that politicians, like athletes, often do better the second time they face an opponent.

      Douglas MacKinnon, a political and communications consultant, was a writer in the White House for Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush, and former special assistant for policy and communications at the Pentagon during the last three years of the Bush administration.”

      https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/480523-is-hillary-clinton-angling-to-become-vice-president

      If Hillary becomes vice president, the president better have a good food taster.

    549. mRviTO says:

      jon gabriel
      @exjon
      ·
      9h
      The Des Moines Register Poll didn’t kill itself.

    550. Ben says:

      “Iowa Poll canceled after a Pete Buttigieg supporter says the candidate’s name was omitted during a poll call”

      Sure…..

    551. jason says:

      Somebody didn’t like the results of the IA poll.

    552. jason says:

      Hillary brings nothing to the table as vice president unless maybe on Mayor Butt’s ticket for some “gravitas”” (assuming some people believe she has any).

      The other contenders are older than the hills and they are not going to want a geriatric ticket, or someone that has no future politically.

    553. jason says:

      I helped Trump get elected. Jason did not. He can F’off at any time.”

      Zzzzzzz….

      I helped too.

      I said to all that would listen for months that a Hillary Presidency would be disastrous and the effects felt for generations.

      I also told everyone that had reservations about Trump that they should vote their conscious.

      I fought back against Corey’s ridiculous assertion that Hillary was some kind of compromising, non-ideological moderate, and that as the most corrupt nominee in History she was a “better person than Trump”.

      I probably got more people to vote for Trump than Bitter’s “I am voting against Hillary not for Trump” crock of crap.

      Bitter can GFH anytime.

    554. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Here is a just-released NBC/WSJ National Poll(RV’s). The highlights are:
      Trump Approval/Disapproval- 46/51
      Democrat Primaries- The Bern +1 over Biden
      Impeachment Removal- Underwater/No by 3

      https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6750229-200053-NBCWSJ-January-Poll.html

    555. jason says:

      I must have missed the part where McConnell “humiliated the Chief Justice”

      I think Roberts missed it too.

      “It is a sad day for America to see Senator McConnell humiliate the Chief Justice of the United States into presiding over a vote which rejected our nation’s judicial norms, precedents and institutions which uphold the Constitution and the rule of law.”

    556. Wes says:

      Pass the popcorn. Bitterlaw and Jason are having a fight over who’s the bigger Trump supporter.

    557. jason says:

      My Dem candidates in the order of preference

      – Sanders
      – Lieawatha
      – Mayor Butt
      – Biden
      – Klobuchar
      – Bloomberg

      I left Steyer and Yang out because I think they have zero chance of being nominated.

    558. jason says:

      Pass the popcorn. Bitterlaw and Jason are having a fight over who’s the bigger Trump supporter.”

      Wes, remember that are according to Bitter you are “beyond redemption” too.

    559. jason says:

      The DNC got CNN to cancel their IA poll.

      It must have had Bernie with a big lead.

    560. jason says:

      Wow, according to Predictit, there is a 42% chance the Dems will nominate Bernie Sanders, an 80 year old Bolshevik.

    561. jason says:

      “about Trump that they should vote their conscious”

      I had 4 mores slices of slab bacon and realized that it should say conscience.

      GFYs.

    562. Wes says:

      Bernie would be a godsend to Trump. Rich liberal Dems got Mike Bloomberg to run to keep Warren or Bernie away from the nomination.

      If Sanders becomes the Dem nominee, the rich liberal Dems may vote Trump out of desperation. He definitely sinks Dem chances of recapturing the Senate and probably causes the House to flip.

      That’s why Dems are desperate to stop him.

    563. Tina says:

      The Sc firewall for China Biden is in danger.

      Sanders is now only trailing him by 5.

      https://t.co/B8VxFOuhxx?amp=1

    564. PresidentPaul! says:

      Ya Bernie wins Iowa and NH by at least 10 points. The DMR and CNN says they aren’t releasing bc of buttigeig complains but more likely they don’t like that Bernie is crushing the competition.

      Dem party has radicalized.

    565. Tina says:

      Goober is promising investigations, per Maria Bs program:

      Jim Risch, Chair Foreign Affairs, will interview State Dept employees re: Biden.

      Richard Burr, Chair intel, will interview the “whistleblower.”
      Graham will “look into” FISA abuse.

    566. jason says:

      Pass the popcorn.

      PETA has a new ad where animals kneel like Kaepernick to protest “animal injustice”.

      It didn’t go over well with BLM.

      “PETA colonized the Black Lives Matter Movement; disrespected Colin Kaepernick’s protest against injustice, and made a mockery of 400 years of systemic oppression by comparing Black lives to grizzly bears and bald eagles.”

    567. Phil says:

      Wow. Biden only up by 5 over Sanders in SC? In a state where 50% of Dem voters are black? Yikes. If that’s the best he can do he’s in a lot of trouble. Of course, anyone who has heard him on the campaign trail would know he’s got problems.

    568. jason says:

      I love it when kooky moonbats insult each other.

    569. jason says:

      Another terrorist attack in London?

    570. Tina says:

      Yeah, Biden has problems on the campaign .

      I forgot what I was going to say does not appear effective

    571. Tina says:

      Yes, everybody is a winner

      Chris Wallace: Everyone Is Coming Out Of Impeachment As A Winner https://realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/02/01/chris_wallace_everyone_is_coming_out_of_impeachment_as_a_winner.html…

    572. jason says:

      I don’t want Biden to implode now.

      Most of his votes would go to Bloomberg and/or Klobuchar, who I view as more dangerous to Trump.

      Of course, if Trump had to lose, I would prefer he lose to Bloomberg. I know, a nanny state proponent and 2nd amendment hater who has bought the climate alarmists agenda hook line and sinker, but he is the least socialist of the bunch and actually has run a successful business.

    573. jason says:

      Chris Wallace is a winner, higher ratings during the impeachment charade.

    574. jason says:

      It would be fun to see Proud Obamacommunist having to vote for an ex-Republican billionaire.

      Would Michael Moore vote for Bloomberg?

    575. Phil says:

      So the NBC poll came out this morning and removal from office was down 49-46. What do you bet that wasn’t the result Chuck Todd wanted to be reporting on MTP this morning?

      After the MSM hammering Trump 24/7 with guns blazing on impeachment for the last three months this was the best they could get? Think about that for a second.

    576. Chicon says:

      Goober’s gonna investigate now. Think he can finish by November? Or is it an act?

    577. Phil says:

      And, yes, sounds like Bloomberg is the choice of the DNC and they are intent on screwing Bernie. Wonder how Bernie’s people are going to take this in November. LOL

    578. jason says:

      Six hundred cabrones.

    579. jason says:

      I don’t know if Bloomberg is the choice of the DNC. I think it is Biden. But if Biden implodes…

    580. PresidentPaul! says:

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-29/china-is-dismantling-its-great-financial-wall-a-guide-to-2020?sref=IRovmk9E

      China’s 45 trillion market opening up meaning that American pension funds will be going into this giant scam of a country. Also global bond funds are including chinese bonds (aka junk bonds) in their indexes.

      Basically the goal is to get American retirement savings involved in this.

    581. PresidentPaul! says:

      WTO Tweet reassures

      “Asymptomatic #2019nCoV infection may be rare, and transmission from an asymptomatic person is very rare with other coronaviruses, as we have seen with MERS. Thus, transmission from asymptomatic cases is likely not a major driver of transmission http://bit.ly/36QhfKq

      https://twitter.com/WHO/status/1223659708072038400?s=20

    582. lisab says:

      Anti-gay hate crimes recorded by police in 2019:

      Saudi Arabia: 0
      Pakistan: 0
      Yemen: 0
      Brunei: 0
      Somalia: 0
      Afghanistan: 0
      USA: 1404

      And you’re telling me it’s the Islamic states that are homophobic?

      aoc

    583. lisab says:

      The penis is an alt-right hate symbol. aoc

    584. lisab says:

      Your daily reminder that heteronormativity is the hegemonic cultural mechanism by which oppressive discourses of phallocentrism normalise a proxi-fascist rearticulation of power structures.

    585. lisab says:

      In order to prove my commitment to the environment, I’ve decided to wear a green dress.

      We all need to make a sacrifice from time to time.

    586. lisab says:

      GOALS FOR 2020:

      • Make Elizabeth Warren president (or any other person of indigenous descent)

      • Stop Brexit and impeach Boris Johnson

      • End the gender pregnancy gap

      • Stand up for minorities, particularly when they don’t know what’s best for themselves

      Happy new year.