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    Marshall Leads Bollier By Only 1 % in KS

    We are three days from the Republicans in Kansas picking Roger Marshall as their nominee for the US Senate and Public Policy Polling is already out with a new poll claiming Marshall only leads his Democratic opponent by a single-percentage point.

    PRESIDENT – KANSAS (PPP)
    Donald Trump (R-inc) 50%
    Joe Biden (D) 43%

    US SENATE – KANSAS (PPP)
    Roger Marshall (R) 43%
    Barbara Bollier (D) 425

    This poll was done August 5-6 among 864 registered voters.

    Posted by Dave at 9:35 am
    Filed under: General | Comments (477)

    477 Responses to “Marshall Leads Bollier By Only 1 % in KS”

    1. Hugh says:

      KS senate race will be a blowout

    2. Hugh says:

      It took a longtime. It’s been about 4 weeks of Biden consistently ahead of trump on predictit. The last few days he’s dropping quick. Now down to 14.

    3. jason says:

      The reason is that Biden has dropped in the state predictions.

      In PA and WI down to 67%, AZ down to 62%, FL 56% and NC 54%.

      Trump also improved in GA, now 63%, and OH, now 62%.

      Overall Biden is still a strong favorite, 58-42 this morning, but that is down from a high of 62-38.

      If FL, AZ and NC flip in the predictions, and/or Biden falls below 60% in WI or PA, it will probably go back to 50-50.

    4. Stonewall DW says:

      Consider these Kansas polls from four years ago:

      SUSA

      Hillary 39
      Trump 44
      Johnson 8

      Aug 9, 2016

      Zogby

      Hillary 43
      Trump 36

      June 4-6, 2016

      Of course Trump won the state 57/36

    5. Stonewall DW says:

      4 – most of that stuff is based on the polling. Garbage in, Garbage out.

    6. jason says:

      The Dems picked their own deadender to run in the TN senate race.

      It would be good if Mikey Maneuvers were contagious and spread to the Dems.

    7. jason says:

      – most of that stuff is based on the polling. Garbage in, Garbage out.”

      That is correct.

      However, it reflects polling that is less favorable to Biden.

    8. Wobbles says:

      VA is reporting 2k cases today, only 800 yesterday.

      We should keep an eye on it, may have to shut down the whole eastern seaboard and most of Western Europo due to prevailing winds.

    9. Phil says:

      Even in the Hope and Change year of 2008 which Obama won nationally by ten million votes and with over 370 electoral votes, Obama lost Kansas by 14 points. 2008 was the best Democratic Presidential year since 1992. Now PPP is telling me that Trump would carry Kansas by half that.

      Jensen knows what he is doing.

      The poll is full of crap.

    10. Wobbles says:

      Unemployment is over 10%!

      Trump should fire Mnuchin.

      Cases increasing in Illinois.

      We are going to have to shut the whole country down until the second coming of Jesus or until I break my fake news habit, whichever is latest.

    11. Phil says:

      …..and Marshall tied in the Senate race?

      Paleeeeez.

    12. Marv says:

      Wobbles,

      In the northern hemisphere, the prevailing winds are from west to east.

    13. jason says:

      Consider these Kansas polls from four years ago:

      SUSA

      Hillary 39
      Trump 44
      Johnson 8″

      Oh, stop the nitpicking will ya?

      Hillary got 35%, they almost nailed her (huh, sorry for the image)

      So they were a little off with Trump, who got 56% and Johnson was only off by about 50%, but nobody is perfecdt.

    14. Wobbles says:

      Marv says:
      August 7, 2020 at 10:12 am

      Wobbles,

      In the northern hemisphere, the prevailing winds are from west to east.”

      Yes, and Western Europe is east of Virginia.

    15. Robbie says:

      Virginia posted a large batch of cases this morning, but the state’s website included this disclaimer.

      “Today, the Virginia Department of Health (VDH) announced that the COVID-19 data numbers that will be posted on Friday, August 7 will contain a significant increase due to a data backlog from earlier in the week.

      Today’s data will indicate 2,015 new cases. This figure includes information that should have been reported on Wednesday and Thursday of this week as well as the regular numbers for Friday.”

    16. Robbie says:

      Living rent free in Jason’s head is quite fun. he needs help, but it’s still fun.

    17. dblaikie says:

      With the new Gallup figures out that well over 60% of Americans believe the media is biased I hope they continue like they are doing. Their TDS will consume them.

      But more than that Gallup came out their new PID. Dems 29% and GOP is at 28% and Indies are at 38%. This is a huge GOP swing of 6 points. Like I have said many times Gallup is one polling firm I take seriously even though they frustrate me with only polling adults.

      I guess the question is why do these polling media firms have dem + 10 to 15 points? Pretty bogus!!!

    18. dblaikie says:

      The 6 point swing is since June.

    19. Wobbles says:

      This terrific and scary surge in VA could spread to Western Europe due to prevailing winds, that is why I am advocating for a complete shutdown from FL to Greenland.

      I would also advise no shipping or fishing in these dangerous waters which could be contaminated by this VA COVID surge in cases.

      We should immediately destroy all seafood produced in the North Atlantic.

      Now, I know these measures could be bad for Trump, but socialism is a small price to pay for the health of America.

    20. Wobbles says:

      With the new Gallup figures out that well over 60% of Americans believe the media is biased”

      So there are like 40% of Americans that are moronic sheep like me?

      Sad.

    21. Tina says:

      Don’t look now, but the tsa passenger count has averaged 700,000 the last week.

      Highest since mid March.

      More greenshoots

    22. Tina says:

      With respect to the covid deaths, it’s weird how these states are doing legacy reporting.

      They are certificate matching and going back weeks or months.

      Makes it harder to know if actual deaths are going up.

      These states need to quit reporting with such lags. We need the actual, day of death information.

    23. Wobbles says:

      RCP has dropped to Biden +6.4 on the national average.

      So I have an important announcement to make.

      Polling is probably inaccurate due to the hurricane, so I will not consider the RCP average until it goes back up to 10.

      Thank you for your attention.

    24. Tina says:

      But the venthoarder has pierced nipples.

      el gato malo
      @boriquagato
      ·
      19m
      NJ did nothing that worked to stop covid & did several things to make it worse, like flooding nursing homes w/ COV+ patients

      disease hit break point and it stopped.

      then the southern disease season hit the US south.

      they peaked at 15% of NJ and 16% of NY.

      now it’s burning out

    25. Wobbles says:

      Don’t look now, but the tsa passenger count has averaged 700,000 the last week.”

      Not so fast.

      I read where Timbuktu Airlines showed a 0.034% drop in reservations, very ominous.

    26. Wobbles says:

      But more than that Gallup came out their new PID. Dems 29% and GOP is at 28% and Indies are at 38%. This is a huge GOP swing of 6 points.”

      This is an outrage and a slap in my face, since I have been claiming the GOP is shrinking fast.

      I have now blacklisted Gallup because I don’t want to cherry pick polls.

    27. jason says:

      66 players sitting out the NFL season.

      Sounds like a lot, but there are over 1700 players in the NFL, so only about 4% opted not to play.

    28. Stonewall DW says:

      It would be an interesting sociological study, to examine what goes on in the minds of people who claim to be conservative but do not believe the media is biased. I know one such person. My own analysis of such people is as follows.

      These people have had some tough moments in life, even tragic events. As they try to process the difficulty and cruelty of life, they feel sort of like they have had their fair share of challenges and do not want to mentally or emotionally take on anything further. So they cannot believe and will not believe the person sitting behind the desk giving the news is not being honest.

      To accept the media is biased would be to add one more burden to life and these people are forcing themselves to mentally live out life in a bubble of perceived Garden of Eden conditions. So if the news anchor says, “that’s the way it is” then that’s the way it was, because to affirm otherwise would darken and diminish their mental utopia.

      If you provide these people strong evidence to counter their delusion, they will reply with a snippy, “Oh that can’t be true” and quickly move on to another topic, because you attacked their delusion.

    29. Scooterboy says:

      Yes, this is an actual headline at NBC

      “U.S. economy gains 1.8 million jobs as recovery loses momentum”

      They just can’t help themselves. Better than expected jobs report, unemployment trending down more than expected, but all they can do is paint a bleak picture.

      Shameful

    30. Stonewall DW says:

      TEXAS – Trafalgar Group (gold standard)

      Trump 49
      Biden 43
      Jorgensen 2

      AUG 1-5, 2020
      1,015 LV

    31. Scooterboy says:

      This race has always been close. Only the people who were dumb enough to believe in D + double digit polling, ever thought Biden was blowing out Trump.

      But you can’t fix stupid.

    32. Stonewall DW says:

      Has Mr. Mental fillness had any gaffes yet today? Has anyone checked to see if he has woken up yet?

      Does anyone doubt that the media would have a feeding frenzy if an elderly Republican POTUS candidate said the following?

      “If he can’t figure out the difference between an elephant and a lion, I don’t know what the hell he is talking about. ‘Cause you watch that–look, come on, man, I-I-I-I know you are trying to goad me, but, I mean uh, I’m so forward to looking to have an opportunity to sit with the president or stand with the president in debates. They’ll give me plenty of time–and by the way as I joked with him, you know…it…I-I shouldn’t say it…I am gonna say something I don’t uh–I-I probably shouldn’t say. Anyway, I am uh, I am very willing to let the American public judge my physical and mental fillne––my physical as well as my mental fillne–FITness”

    33. GeauxLSU says:

      “With the new Gallup figures out that well over 60% of Americans believe the media is biased”

      Yes, everyone knows Judy Woodruff is a talking head for the GOP as Pelosi pointed out.

    34. Wobbles says:

      I have no reason to doubt Pelosi’s word that Judy is a GOP plant.

    35. jason says:

      Since casinos can operate but churches cannot in NV and CA, churches are installing slot machines.

      Brilliant.

    36. Wobbles says:

      This race has always been close. Only the people who were dumb enough to believe in D + double digit polling, ever thought Biden was blowing out Trump.

      But you can’t fix stupid”

      Who you calling stupid, A-hole?

      GFY.

    37. jason says:

      Wobbles is on fire today.

    38. jason says:

      Ok, the MSM has found something that erases ALL of Biden’s gaffes.

      “Trump mocked after calling Thailand ‘Thighland’ in latest speech blunder”

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    39. Wobbles says:

      Unemployment Rate Continues to Fall Despite Democrat’s Best Efforts”

      That hurts.

      I feel like an abject failure.

    40. JohnJ says:

      Boom! Trump hits 50% in Texas
      Trump 50
      Biden 43

      Trafalgar – best poll record in the business.

    41. Tina says:

      Ducey slams China Biden

      Doug Ducey
      @dougducey
      ·
      2h
      “Come on man!” Get out of your basement, Joe, and get the facts on Arizona:

      -Percent positivity between 9-11% for the first time since May
      -The lowest R Naught in the nation at .86
      -380+ testing sites, and growing
      -And we’re providing care and comfort to those who need it.

    42. Phil says:

      Trafalgar is a Republican hack poster. Their Texas poll is laughable. Texas is a tossup. That has already been established. Quinnipiac and CNN polling has spoken.

    43. Wobbles says:

      “The first 2020 battleground electoral map by NBC News was released on Friday, showing the former vice president with a lead of 334 electoral votes.”

      I feel better now.

    44. Phil says:

      334 electoral votes?

      In other words, right where they had Hillary at the same exact point in 2016.

      Ok then. That settles it. Joe Biden is unstoppable.

      The election is a mere formality.

    45. Brandon says:

      I’m going to go out on a limb and say I highly doubt Biden is at the same percentage in Kansas as he is in Texas.

    46. Stonewall DW says:

      538 is at it again…they just posted three new likely voter samples from Zogby, dated January, Feb, the March. National matchups that show the race dead even. They post these first, so later today they can post a new one showing Biden way ahead. This has been their practice now the last month or so.

    47. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      For those of you who believe that Quinnipiac Polls are credible, please note that a couple of weeks back, a Quinn Poll showed Florida at Biden +13, In 2018, the final Quinn Poll showed the Democrats winning the FL Governor’s and Senate contests by 7 pts. They both lost and I never saw a mea culpa from Quinn.
      Same old,same old.

    48. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Sometimes I just have to shake my head and chuckle when I see a PPP/Jensen Poll. This one is Kansas.To wit:

      1) It’s a two day poll in which one of the days was this past Tuesday,or primary day in Kansas.
      2) Moderate Roger Marshall is the GOP nominee, but somehow 18% of Republicans in KS will vote for the GOP turncoat, now Democrat nominee.
      3) Almost the same with the Presidential numbers with The Donald +7.

      This is so obviously a fundraising poll for the Democrat Senate nominee that only a sight-impaired person would miss it(or the posters at RRH)!

    49. mnw says:

      Can I see the hands of those who REALLY think the KS Senate race is a 1-point race?

      KS hasn’t elected a DEM senator in decades, so… since it’s a “tossup” THIS year, it looks like a Biden landslide! /s

      Trolls: “It’s twue! It’s twue!”

    50. mnw says:

      49 Sheep

      Great minds think alike.

    51. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      From earlier HHR thread:

      Utah hearts Trump according to this new Deseret Newspaper Poll showing Trump at 50% and +19.

      https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/8/6/21357209/donald-trump-holding-onto-lead-over-joe-biden-in-utah-deseret-news-hinckley-institute-poll

      Sheeple,Jr. says:
      August 7, 2020 at 6:26 am
      With NY’s Declaration of Lawfare on the NRA yesterday, in which States will this impact the election to help Trump or Biden?
      I will opine first:
      1) It will help Trump(and Collins) in Maine,especially in CD-2 where a vast majority of people hunt.
      2) It will help Trump and other candidates in Texas who hate dictates from Yankee States

    52. mnw says:

      I guess Marshall is “too extreme.” Oh, wait… that was Kobach? Well… Marshall is too!

    53. mnw says:

      Sheep

      Am I the only one who remembers Biden grinning at the cameras & saying, “I want Beto to be my firearms policy guy!”

      Beto: “Hell, YES, I’m gonna take your guns!” (crowd goes wild)

    54. Stonewall DW says:

      Its a little dated, and it’s zobgy Trump Job Approval, so for what its worth:

      JUL 21-23, 2020
      1,516 LV

      Approve 47%
      Disapprove 51%

    55. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      mnw
      Gloria Forever!!!!!!!!!!

      I would bet that if conservative Korbach won the KS Senate primary, today’s PPP/Jensen Poll would be identical!

    56. Robbie says:

      Scooterboy says:
      August 7, 2020 at 11:05 am
      This race has always been close. Only the people who were dumb enough to believe in D + double digit polling, ever thought Biden was blowing out Trump.

      But you can’t fix stupid.

      – Define close.

    57. Pitchaboy says:

      How close?
      DJT will finish at 48% approval; get 48.7% of the vote and win comfortably in the electoral college. That close.

    58. Stonewall DW says:

      It is interesting that after making a big splash of success early in this century, and then crashing and burning and going nearly extinct for the last several elections, suddenly we are hearing again from Zogby. Maybe they see an opening, with all the leftist pollsters repeating their 2016 mistakes, maybe they feel there is a chance to regain a good reputation if they can be one of the few that get it right.

    59. Robbie says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      August 7, 2020 at 1:30 pm
      How close?
      DJT will finish at 48% approval; get 48.7% of the vote and win comfortably in the electoral college. That close.

      – I like the fact you’re willing to state a number. If you’re right, it will be one of the great calls in HHR history.

    60. PresidentPaul! says:

      Elon making his own personal NASA (SpaceX is privately owned unlike TESLA)

      SpaceX starship launch

      Steve Jurvetson
      @FutureJurvetson

      ·
      15h
      Amazing
      @SpaceX
      shots of the 1st test vehicle hop for Starship — the 1st fully-reusable launch system. The radical difference in cost is perhaps best understood with flights on Earth: 30 minutes to fly between continents, at a lower cost than taking an airplane, in coach class.

    61. PresidentPaul! says:

      Robbie did you see Pelosi advanced a bill to change the mandate of the Fed Reserve to focusing on inequality? I don’t think Biden will oppose his speaker.

      Are you sure you want to vote against Trump?

    62. Stonewall DW says:

      “great calls in HHR history.”

      Not really, its just a pretty logical call given you have a POTUS incumbent who is hated by the left running for re-election against a man who can barely remember his own name.

    63. PresidentPaul! says:

      Gilmo Report
      @gilmoreport

      ·
      4m
      From http://Briefing.com: Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin says that Democrats proposal to lower stimulus bill by $1 trillion (meaning bill will be $2.4 trillion total) is a “non-starter” – CNBC

    64. Robbie says:

      A quick check of the new case reports today is mostly good. Florida is down week over week, but the numbers have increased from earlier in the week suggesting there’s some backfilling due to hurricane interrupted reporting.

      Of the states which have fully reported, most have seen declines from last Friday and Fridays are almost always the biggest totals of the week. Last Friday, the country reported more than 71,000 new cases.

      AZ, FL, NC, LA, MD, MS, and MN have all shown declines. On the flip side, IN and IL showed increases. VA’s total was contorted by reporting errors.

    65. Robbie says:

      Stonewall DW says:
      August 7, 2020 at 1:39 pm
      “great calls in HHR history.”

      Not really, its just a pretty logical call given you have a POTUS incumbent who is hated by the left running for re-election against a man who can barely remember his own name.

      – Trump’s job approval rating the RCP average and the 538 average has never been as high as 48%. So to predict that Trump’s job approval rating will be 48% on election day is a bold call.

    66. Robbie says:

      I was one of a few here who was suspicious of John Kasich when he announced his presidential run in July 2015. He was mercurial, often clashed with the conservative legislature in Ohio, and hired a total hack in John Weaver (look him up) to run his presidential campaign.

      Despite all of that, I’m still surprised Kasich is going to speak in support of Biden during their virtual convention and one the same night as Bernie apparently.

    67. Tina says:

      China Biden appears to be doubling down on black culture.

      We need more stupidity from the basement.

    68. NYCmike says:

      “By June 2015, Weaver had been hired to work on the prospective presidential campaign of Ohio Governor John Kasich.[11] Acting as Kasich’s strategist viewing the February 20, 2016 South Carolina primary, Weaver is quoted in The Atlantic as saying, “We want to do well enough to keep Jeb from doing well. If we knock him out of the race, it’s a victory.””

      -I am SHOCKED to see that Robbie doesn’t like Weaver!!

    69. NYCmike says:

      I do agree that he is a total hack…….similar to the people he joined in the Lincoln Project.

    70. Tina says:

      I wonder if quittens is upside down on approval in utah?

    71. NYCmike says:

      “Are you sure you want to vote against Trump?”

      -I’ll answer for Robbie: YES!

    72. Tina says:

      And the jebot summer of love is coming to an end.

      osh Caplan
      @joshdcaplan
      · 4h
      KPTV: Portland Mayor Wheeler slams rioters setting fire at police building, says “you are attempting to commit murder”

    73. Tina says:

      Must be bad polling to keep schools closed for no scientific reason.

      The Hill
      @thehill
      · 1h
      Sen. Chuck Schumer: “If we don’t open up the schools, you’re going to hurt the economy significantly.”

    74. Gordon Allen says:

      Pitchaboy: how does Trump 49 Biden 47 and 324 Electoral votes sound?

    75. Gordon Allen says:

      If Biden agrees to debate I might revise upward. I don’t think he will though

    76. NYCmike says:

      “Pitchaboy: how does Trump 49 Biden 47 and 324 Electoral votes sound?”

      -With CA, NY, and IL, I don’t see how Trump wins popular vote.

    77. lisab says:

      if enthusiasm for biden is low, trump will win the popular vote

      the bitterlaw dems will of course crawl through stalingrad on fire to vote against trump

      but the biden bros and other groups may not turn out for biden

    78. lisab says:

      Unemployment Rate Continues to Fall Despite Democrat’s Best Efforts”

      That hurts.

      I feel like an abject failure.
      ————————————-

      don’t worry, the unemployment rates are very high in blue states!

    79. Stonewall DW says:

      Here is my best guess right now. Trump 48/Biden 49 popular vote. Trump holds AZ, NC, FL, IA and OH, by more or less the same sort of margins, slightly less in AZ, IA and OH, and therefore falls just short in MI and WI, but actually does better in PA than four years ago, and wins with 280 EVs.

      Of course much can happen between now and then.

    80. lisab says:

      i think trump has a good shot in MN, NH, and ME this time.

      the student vote in all three states will be way down, subtract about 10,000 — 10,000 — 5,000 votes from biden in each state.

    81. lisab says:

      10,000 (MN) — 10,000 (NH) — 5,000 (ME)

    82. Stonewall DW says:

      I agree on those three states, that Trump could flip them, but my guesswork thus far is limited just to the states Trump won last time.

    83. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Utah poll by Deseret News:

      Who will vote for:
      Trump 50%
      Biden 31%
      Other Candidate 8%
      Undecided 11%

      Trump job approval:
      55% Approve
      42% Disapprove

      Trump’s handling of coronavirus:
      52% Approve
      45% Disapprove

      Any problems Trump had with Mormon voters appear to be fading away.

    84. I have Trump flipping Minnesota and New Hampshire,and splitting either Maine and Nevada ( I know) to reach I think it was 324.

    85. Gordon Allen says:

      Don’t assume Biden does as well in California,NY or Illinois as Hillary. Trump will add to his margins elsewhere. For instance I have him winning by over 300,000 votes in Florida as opposed to 130,000 in 2016. I believe Biden is skating on the thinnest of thin ice and could collapse completely if his dementia worsens visibly ,or literally sits out the campaign in his basement.
      I have felt for months Biden is the weakest candidate since 1972 for the Democrat’s. After all,how many senile people have run for President?
      I think the economy will continue to improve; the only flaw in the ointment I see is if there is no improvement in the COVD situation,or visible possibility of a vaccine.

    86. PresidentPaul! says:

      Krugman nails it. This is the 2008 preelection GOP plan all over again
      https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/06/opinion/coronavirus-us-recession.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

      The question is, how can this be happening? The 2008 financial crisis and the sluggish recovery that followed weren’t that long ago, and they taught us valuable lessons directly relevant to our current plight. Above all, experience in that slump demonstrated both that economic depressions are no time to obsess over debt and that slashing spending in the face of mass unemployment is a terrible mistake.
      But nobody in the White House or on the G.O.P. side of Capitol Hill seems to have learned anything from that experience. In fact, not having learned anything from the last crisis almost seems to be a requirement for Republican economic advisers.
      So at the moment we seem to be headed for a Greater Recession — a worse slump than 2007-2009, overlaid on the coronavirus slump. MAGA!

      Instead of getting a bill done to win reelection, they want to spent time fighting with Nancy over state bailouts that are eventually going to happen anyways.

    87. Pitchaboy says:

      Believe the popular vote will be very very close with a Zombie edge. EV will be comfortable. PA,NC, FL,OH,IA, AZ stay DJT. Rest is icing.

    88. Stonewall DW says:

      89–sorry, that doesn’t fly. Its a totally different situation. Krugman is wishful thinking. 2008 was an open election, this one is an incumbent running for re-election. 2008 was about getting the first black president. 2020 will be about avoiding the first president with dementia.

    89. Stonewall DW says:

      Count me as a hardliner against federal money to bail out states who spent money irresponsibly. If we all have to bail out such stupidity, then there is no point in even having separate states. Let Illinois collapse into ruin. I don’t give a rip.

      Maybe they will learn some hard lessons about spending money they don’t have.

    90. Tina says:

      It’s not 2008 again. That is bs.

      We hold all the cards in the negotiations, especially with the job numbers.

      There is also no disastrous Iraq war.

      And trump is not at 25 ercent approval.

    91. NYCmike says:

      “Count me as a hardliner against federal money to bail out states who spent money irresponsibly. If we all have to bail out such stupidity, then there is no point in even having separate states. Let Illinois collapse into ruin. I don’t give a rip.”

      -People here at HHR want to have federal $$$ go to bail out states?

      That is one way to keep Republican voters home in November!

    92. Tina says:

      Are Enten and Lord Arsehat related?

      M.Joseph Sheppard
      @SHEPMJS
      ·
      1m
      Advised;
      Rush talking about Harry Enten
      @ForecasterEnten
      being all bent out of shape because the “poll of polls” moving to Trump

      You heard it here first folks-follow the red line

    93. Stonewall DW says:

      Vote for a proven leader, or vote for:

      “Anyway, I am uh, I am very willing to let the American public judge my physical and mental fillne––my physical as well as my mental fillne–FITness”

    94. Stonewall DW says:

      And if Trump wins, you have to know that the journalists covering election night will immediately come to the sudden knowledge that Biden was not mentally fit. They will talk as though they have been talking about it all along, but they only spoke among themselves about it. This will be the first time they talk publicly about it to viewers.

      Just like 2016 when suddenly, late into election night, they admitted Hillary had no message.

    95. Tina says:

      Market was up again today,

      It was on a tear this week.

    96. Tina says:

      I don’t know why China Biden picked a fight with Az Governor, Doug Deucey, on it’s China virus numbers.

    97. Robbie says:

      It’s time for someone to stick a sock in Fauci’s mouth. Today, he said it’s unlikely we’ll get a “highly effective” vaccine. What does he consider a highly effective vaccine? The measles vaccine that is 98% effective.

      Excuse me, but no one is suggesting any of the vaccines need to be 98% effective. Even if one of the vaccines in the works in 90% effective (as predicted by the head of Operation Warp Speed), it would be a fantastic development and bring this BS to an end.

      More and more data suggests the threshold for herd immunity could be as low as 20% since so many of us have background immunity due to T-cells from other corona infections. If a vaccine is just 70% effective and the vast majority of people get it, corona runs out of people to infect. And those who do get infected would only suffer mild infections like those of a common cold.

      Fauci went on to say we may need to do masks and social distancing for a couple more years. Nope. Not happening, old man.

    98. NYCmike says:

      Was this a polling site or a vaccine site?

      I am “undecided” how to answer.

    99. Hugh says:

      Predictit now down to 13.

    100. Robbie says:

      As more and more states report this afternoon, I think the trend continues to be a positive one. It’s been a good week. Nationally, we’ll be lower than last Friday and that’s the main thing to keep in mind. The change week over week may not be as good as it has through most of the week, though. We’ll see what Texas and California have to say, though.

      Among the states, I think the trend has been mostly good. Florida is down, but catching up from hurricane interrupted results. The South is mostly down, but Georgia and South Carolina were a wash week over week. The Upper Midwest is worth watching. As the outbreak wanes in the South, it seems to be inching northward. Is there a temperature component to its speard?

    101. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      August 7, 2020 at 4:27 pm
      Was this a polling site or a vaccine site?

      I am “undecided” how to answer.

      – Since the medical outcome weighs heavily on the political outcome this year, it’s definitely both.

    102. Robbie says:

      Josh Kraushaar
      @HotlineJosh
      Wow: Inside Elections all but ruling out GOP House gains this year. Projects 0-12 Dem seat pickup.

      – We’ll see what happens on election day, but, if Republicans do lose more seats in the House, Kevin McCarthy likely won’t be the Republican leader in 2021.

    103. Phil says:

      12 seat Democratic pickup.

      Uh, want to bet?

    104. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      August 7, 2020 at 4:35 pm
      12 seat Democratic pickup.

      Uh, want to bet?

      – Seems unlikely right now.

      But would you say a loss like that ends McCarthy’s leadership?

    105. jason says:

      Was just listening on the radio to the physician who is head of the Geisinger-Holy Spirit health system.

      He said number of cases is the WORST measure to gauge the pandemic, that PA had 660 people hospitalized for COVID vs. 2800 in April, and that the death rate for hospitalized cases fell from 20% to 10%.

      He said there was no reason not to play high school sports in the fall, and that the decisions being made regarding COVID in PA were political, not medical.

      I give him credit for having the balls to in effect call Wolf a political hack.

    106. jason says:

      But would you say a loss like that ends McCarthy’s leadership??

      Zzzzzzzzz…. are we back to Liz Cheney?

      Maybe we can get back to brokered convention.

      I am willing to bet McCarthy will be the leader.

      Any takers?

    107. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      August 7, 2020 at 4:44 pm
      But would you say a loss like that ends McCarthy’s leadership??

      Zzzzzzzzz…. are we back to Liz Cheney?

      – Maybe her. Maybe Steve Scalise. No doubt, Jim Jordan will make a play regardless of the outcome.

    108. Hugh says:

      Check that it’s now down to 12

    109. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      101. Although I have reservations about using the term “herd immunity”, I agree with Robbie’s post.

    110. Phil says:

      Yeah, it would result in a leadership change.

      I don’t think Republicans are going to get the House but they will pick up a handful of seats. Fact is that Democrats have maxed out their seats in California. Also, I can name seats in Oklahoma and South Carolina that are guaranteed to flip back Republican just off the top of my head.

      The wet dream blowout at the top of the ticket that The MSM was wettIng their pants over in June and July isn’t happening. Without that, Pelosi isn’t expanding her majority.

    111. jason says:

      Just saw back to back Trump and Biden ads during the PGA.

      The Trump ad was about the ban on fracking costing 600k jobs. It was maybe 15 seconds narrated by a blue collar guy, not a big production. It ended with this lettering on a black background.

      PENNSYLVANIA IS TOUGH. BIDEN IS WEAK.

      I give it a B+.

      Biden’s ad was 30 seconds and must more expensive to make, it showed Biden walking through a factory and promising to invest in good jobs and “reducing dependency on China”.

      Coming right after Trump’s ad, it seemed fake and contrived.

      I give it a C-.

    112. Tina says:

      David Boulware, MD MPH
      @boulware_dr
      ·
      13m
      University of Minnesota expands clinical investigation of engineered iPSC-derived natural killer cells, opening U.S. clinical trial for the treatment of COVID-19, lead by Dr. Josh Rhein
      @yawjoshua
      (another cryptococcal researcher now battling #COVID19).

    113. Robbie says:

      SanDiegoCitizen says:
      August 7, 2020 at 4:47 pm
      101. Although I have reservations about using the term “herd immunity”, I agree with Robbie’s post.

      – What term do you think is a better descriptor?

    114. Wobbles says:

      being all bent out of shape because the “poll of polls” moving to Trump”

      Don’t mention it, please.

      If the RCP average had changed pro-Biden, I would have been here touting it quicker than a fly on a horse turd.

      Since it went the other way, I am talking about fictitious losses by the GOP in the house.

    115. jason says:

      The GOP is more likely to pick up seats in the House than lose any.

      You read it here first.

    116. jason says:

      I think the GOP will gain at least 2 seats in CA btw.

      Barring fraud.

      I know, big caveat.

    117. Tina says:

      Herd immunity is touted by Michael Levitt of the great Stanford University,

    118. Tina says:

      I am triggered by Kanye West being on the ballot of some critical states. He is influenced by the Russians.

      -Jebot

    119. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      At present, no sign of a second wave in Sweden:

      Sweden’s latest daily death averages:
      August 6: Seven day moving average 1 (one)
      August 6: Three day moving average 0 (zero)

      I would like to have Fauci explain how a nation that did not have a lockdown could be at near zero daily deaths. What are they doing right, and what did we do wrong?

    120. Hugh says:

      Check that it is now at 11

    121. Robbie says:

      Wow. Jerry Falwell Jr. was asked by the Board of Trustees to take an immediate leave of absence from his role as president and chancellor of Liberty University.

      Not really any political importance, but still something. His behavior has been quite erratic.

    122. NYCmike says:

      Hoping CD-11 in NY reverts back to Republican.

    123. Tina says:

      Adults?

      Political Polls
      @Politics_Polls
      ·
      4m
      Trump Job Approval:
      Approve 45%
      Disapprove 54%

      @SurveyMonkey
      /
      @NBCNews
      , LV, 7/27-8/2
      https://surveymonkey.com/curiosity/nbc-poll-covid-aug2/

    124. Tina says:

      This has not been a good week for the dementia candidate and drats.


      @thebradfordfile
      ·
      27m
      HOLY COW — Chuck Schumer is now advocating to reopen schools for the fall semester. Their internal polls must be devastating.

      Democrats are PANICKING.

    125. Tina says:

      Suspend the payroll tax.

      And demagogue Piglosi and Schumah.

      Donald J. Trump
      @realDonaldTrump
      ·
      13m
      Pelosi and Schumer only interested in Bailout Money for poorly run Democrat cities and states. Nothing to do with China Virus! Want one trillion dollars. No interest. We are going a different way!

    126. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      117, There appears to be a certain part of the population who possibly for genetic reasons may not be capable of being infected; another part may likewise fight off the infection because of prior exposure to cold viruses or other viruses, or innate immunity; and then there is the part who are infected and develop antibodies to the virus.

      The problem I have is when the term “herd immunity” is used, it often is used referring to just those with antibodies. The claim is made that because only a small part of the population test positive for antibodies, say 10%-15%, there is not herd immunity. This does not take into account those who for genetic or other reasons cannot be infected.

      Even though only a small part of the population may actually have antibodies to the virus, if you look at all those who cannot be infected together, what is referred to as “herd immunity” may exist; but it is not herd immunity as currently defined by a lot of experts. There needs to be another term used for it.

    127. Tina says:

      She’s big all right. Wonder if there is a Golden Corral nearby for her.

      Andrea Mitchell
      @mitchellreports
      · 20h
      Anna Navarro is a big get for Team Obama:
      Biden camp taps GOP Trump foe to rev up Latino voters https://nbcnews.com/news/latino/biden-camp-taps-republican-trump-foe-ana-navarro-rev-latino-n1236063

    128. Tina says:

      It would be nice if a presstitute asked Dr fallacy why.

      rnes Retweeted

      James Todaro, MD
      @JamesTodaroMD
      ·
      7h
      Are we just going to ignore the fact that Sweden never issued stay-at-home orders, kept schools open, didn’t close businesses and the general public does not wear masks…

      …and the entire country is down to LESS THAN 1 DEATH per day from COVID-19.

    129. Robbie says:

      131

      Makes sense.

    130. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Haven’t agree so much with Jason and Robbie since our NeverTrump days back in 2016

    131. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “You Are Invited Virtual Happy Hour: Today 8/07 @4pm!!!”

      So you get to watch toasted people on Zoom??

    132. Tina says:

      Bruce Stanford
      @brhstanford
      ·
      46m
      Weak showing for the Dems in WA-08. If this district in play (or flips?), the GOP *has* to be flipping several other key districts back.
      Quote Tweet

      Devin…PNW4Ever ?? ?
      @ppm1214
      · 6h
      ?WA 8th primary at the moment..
      GOP- 48.84%
      Dem- 47.97%
      Other- 3.2%

      Schrier only at 43.82%. Turnout almost at 2018 primary levels where generic ballot was…
      Dem-50.2%, R -46.85%, Other- 2.93%

    133. PresidentPaul! says:

      #130

      I actually think that decision is going to cost him the election.

      I’d have been fine with a 2 trillion dollar compromise if that’s what it takes to keep Biden\Bernie out of the WH.

      You can always suspend payroll taxes after they deal is agreed to on top of it.

    134. Scooterboy says:

      On his broadcast, Baris says he believes Trump will end up winning Florida by 2%.

    135. PresidentPaul! says:

      “There are even some warnings about the cancel culture in a cashless society.”

      Addison Wiggin on the Daily Reckoning wrote, “But there’s another angle to the cashless society that hasn’t gotten much attention: What if the powers that be can ‘cancel’ people with unpopular political opinions?”

    136. Tina says:

      I guess it’s best to,ignore the weekly jobless claim numbers and focus more on thr continuing claims numbers.

    137. Scooterboy says:

      129. Yep. If Schumer is doing an about face on opening schools, you can bet the polling is not good.

    138. jason says:

      I’d have been fine with a 2 trillion dollar compromise”

      Hilarious.

      Supposedly Paulbots are for small government and fiscal responsibility.

      We know it is BS since Ron Paul was one of the biggest porkers in Congress but here Bunu is ok with a “2 trillion compromise”.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    139. jason says:

      On his broadcast, Baris says he believes Trump will end up winning Florida by 2%.”

      I think it will be 2.734%

    140. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Nic Lewis wrote several articles about what is eeferred to as herd immunity, which included all factors. Excuse the technical mumbo-jumbo, but below is a quote from one of his articles:

      Interesting the reference to Stockholm County reaching the “herd immunity” level. Could it be a reason the Swedish death has declined to nearly zero?

      “I showed in my May 10th article Why herd immunity to COVID-19 is reached much earlier than thought that inhomogeneity within a population in the susceptibility and in the social-connectivity related infectivity of individuals would reduce, in my view probably very substantially, the herd immunity threshold (HIT), beyond which an epidemic goes into retreat. I opined, based on my modelling, that the HIT probably lay somewhere between 7% and 24%, and that evidence from Stockholm County suggested it was around 17% there, and had been reached. Mounting evidence supports my reasoning.
      I particularly want to highlight an important paper published on July 24th “Herd immunity thresholds estimated from unfolding epidemics” (Aguas et al.). The author team is much the same as that of the earlier theoretical paper (Gomes et al.) that prompted my May 10th article.
      Aguas et al. used a SEIR compartmental epidemic model modified to allow for inhomogeneity, similar to the model I used although they also considered further variants. They fitted their models to scaled daily new cases data from four European countries for which disaggregated regional case data was also readily available. In all cases they found a better fit from their models incorporating heterogeneity to the standard homogeneous assumption SEIR model. They found that:
      Aguas et al. estimate the HIT at between 6% and 21% for the countries in their analysis – very much in line with the range I suggested in May. They also found that their HIT estimates were robust to various changes in their model specification. By contrast, if the population were homogeneous or were vaccinated randomly, the estimated HIT would have been around 65% –80%, in line with the classical formula, {1 – 1/R0}, where R0 is the epidemic’s basic reproduction number.”

    141. Tina says:

      I think China Biden does a great job at this without muh Russia

      Axios
      @axios
      · 2h
      Counterintelligence chief: Russia aiming to “denigrate” Biden ahead of election
      https://axios.com/evanina-russia-2020-election-interference-biden-2d2d55b9-635d-49cb-a6dc-ed83cded52ab.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=organic&utm_content=1100

    142. jason says:

      Haven’t agree so much with Jason and Robbie since our NeverTrump days back in 2016″

      Since I don’t agree with the MSM toadie fraud on anything, hopefully you are agreeing on different things.

    143. Country Dick Montana says:

      https://triblive.com/local/regional/report-state-hotline-fielding-more-calls-about-student-suicide-self-harm-concerns/

      12% increase in calls for potential student suicides and self harm in Southwestern PA. But let’s keep everything locked down and schools closed.

      Along with this, there was an article in the WSJ a week or so ago saying that the closing of schools has exacerbated the feeling of isolation on the part of the uncool or unpopular kids leading to a higher rate of depression and everything that goes with it.

    144. jason says:

      The Russians are really high tech.

      They can get Biden to say gibberish every time he opens his mouth.

      Amazing technology.

    145. PresidentPaul! says:

      #145
      We’ll see how you feel about it when the economy crashes again before the election, and we get a dem senate with Biden in charge.

      That extra 1 trillion will seem like chump change compared to the 50 trillion the dems blow

    146. Robbie says:

      I was hopeful this would be the first week since the last week of June where we had a day that didn’t exceed 60,000 new cases. It’s looks like we’ll cross that mark to day, but not by much. Last Friday, we had 71,000 cases so still plenty of progress,

    147. jason says:

      Robbie Fraud might be disappointed by the IL numbers. Slight increase from yesterday but alas, hardly the exponential rise that would justify shutting down the whole Great Lakes region and most of Canada.

    148. jason says:

      I was hopeful this would be the first week since the last week of June where we had a day that didn’t exceed 60,000 new cases”?

      LOL

      I guess that is the new stupid arbitrary benchmark only important in Robbie Fraud’s small mind.

    149. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      148. “I think China Biden does a great job at this without muh Russia”

      At this point am not sure Biden could locate Russia on a map. His mental state seems to be declining fairly rapidly. The Democrats are going to need to go into the crisis mode soon.

    150. jason says:

      Robbie Fraud is as hopeful cases will fall as I am that bears will kill my llamas.

    151. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      August 7, 2020 at 6:30 pm
      Robbie Fraud is as hopeful cases will fall as I am that bears will kill my llamas.

      – Get a life.

    152. jason says:

      There are Robbie Fraudster’s silly MSM driven rants on cases, and then there is the opinion of a real doctor:

      “Was just listening on the radio to the physician who is head of the Geisinger-Holy Spirit health system.

      He said number of cases is the WORST measure to gauge the pandemic”

    153. Tina says:

      China Biden probably does not know his basement from. His first floor.

      He has handlers.

      Just like thr medical doctor (pretend secret service agent) that was always close to Hillary.

    154. jason says:

      NBA ad says “It is time to rise”.

      The only pro sport I plan on watching is golf.

    155. NYCmike says:

      “The only pro sport I plan on watching is golf.”

      -They really fixed up Harding Park since I played it back in the late 90’s.

    156. Gordon Allen says:

      #140. President Paul. No offense,but your economic predictions have been in the Krugman accuracy range; never close to being right. If we get at least most of the schools open we’re looking at an unprecedented increase( boom) in the third quarter. Restrained economists are looking at 20% plus. I have not the slightest idea what data you’re actually looking at.

    157. DW says:

      Incredible that dems are running on abolishing police and taking all guns, and shutting down NRA.

    158. Robbie says:

      Trump in his press conference said he and his advisors are monitoring increases in new cases in Chicago and the Midwest.

      Is Trump spewing leftwing talking points from MSNBC, Jason?

    159. Tina says:

      Jebots to sue. Yumiche forgot to mention e.o. On preventing insurance from blocking pre existing conditions.

      Yamiche Alcindor
      @Yamiche
      ·
      22m
      Pres Trump says he looking to take executive action that would:
      -Defer payroll tax until to the end of year and be retroactive to July 1
      -Enhance unemployment benefits until end of 2020
      -Defer student loans and forgive interest until further notice
      -Extend eviction moratoriums

    160. Tina says:

      Lol

      Jim Acosta
      @Acosta
      · 1m
      Trump turned his Bedminster news conference into a rally, bashing the press and drawing applause from his golf club members. Those members were booing the press towards the end of the news conference.

    161. Tina says:

      Trump destroyed the presstitutes.

      Jack Posobiec ??
      @JackPosobiec
      ·
      1m
      A reporter just asked why Trump’s guests weren’t social distancing or wearing masks and Trump said “That’s ok. It’s a peaceful protest”

    162. Tina says:

      conspiracy loon

      The COVID Tracking Project
      @COVID19Tracking
      · 1h
      We recorded a considerable drop in hospitalizations today. The new HHS hospitalization dataset had been tracking much higher than our numbers; today, it experienced a precipitous and unrealistic decline. Short story: The data remains mushy since the CDC–>HHS changeover.

    163. Scooterboy says:

      David Axelrod- “I can’t remember any VP selection process where so much oppo research has been dumped. If I were @JoeBiden, looking for a good and loyal partner, that should be a source of concern.”

    164. PresidentPaul! says:

      This is a “hope event” that is being guided into the insolvency event that is essentially a great unfolding.

      The best performing sectors: gold miners
      The worst performing sectors: banks

      This is telling us that there are systemic credit and debt issue that is going to hit us, which is why blocking a dem stimulus bill makes little sense because if TSHTF before the election, we are going to end up with a democrat realignment, and this is not FDR’s dem party this is a more radicalized party.

    165. CountryDickMontana says:

      If it gets too radical the country splits.

    166. PresidentPaul! says:

      I was listening to Raoul Pal on RV today. He was saying that behind the scenes it’s actually mail in voting that is the crux of the failure to pass a deal.

      Pelosi is basically saying do mail in voting in the bill so dems guarantee to win the election or alternatively well just push an economic meltdown and Trump will be blamed.

    167. Greymarch says:

      Could Trump really do this? My first guess is yes he can. The Secretary of the Treasury collects the federal income tax from each of our checks. His boss is Trump. Trump can tell him and his department to stop filing the paperwork which collects the taxes. This EO would do more for the economy than almost any stimulus package. Some claim it wouldnt help the unemployed, but it does help the unemployed. Employed with more money = more people spending = more job creation = less unemployed.

      https://dailycaller.com/2020/08/07/wall-president-trump-plans-to-sign-an-executive-order-suspending-the-payroll-tax-the-american-people-will-thank-him/

    168. Tina says:

      He can suspend collecting it

      Just like he extended the tax year.

      However, the taxes are still due at end of year, like a balloon payment, unless Congress says otherwise.

    169. Greymarch says:

      Another thought regarding the fed income tax…if Trump can “suspend” the payroll tax, why cant he permanently suspend it? And if he can permanently suspend it, what a wonderful issue to use against Biden this fall. “If you elect forgetful Joe, we return to staggering income taxes and unemployment. Keep me as president, and you will never pay income tax again.” Whether or not its true, sounds like a damn good angle for Trump.

    170. PresidentPaul! says:

      I mean Obama did DACA on the basis that since congress wouldn’t act, he needed to fill in.

      There is no reason why Trump can’t use that type of reasoning.

      I actually think it would be unconstitutional, but if these are the tools the system affords him, I would encourage Trump to use them especially considering what happens if we tank the economy and put antifa in charge.

      I don’t think payroll taxcut is enough though. We actually need unemployment and direct payments also.

    171. Greymarch says:

      #179: Why couldnt Trump suspend it again for 2021, 2022, etc? The people who collect that tax are his employees. How would congress guarantee the tax gets collected? AFAIK, the only way would be to remove Trump from office.

    172. PresidentPaul! says:

      I don’t think he’d have to keep on suspending it. Eventually congress would just pass a relief bill.
      possibilities

      1)biden narrowly wins, but does he want to force lower income ppl to pay tons of payroll taxes all at once?

      2)Trump narrowly wins, but then the dems feel the pressure and vote to suspend payroll taxes temporarily

      3)Trump wins narrowly, and the dems refuse to do payroll taxes so Trump could blame them for it when people have to pay or alternatively he could just keep suspending the taxes.

    173. Robbie says:

      Greymarch says:
      August 7, 2020 at 9:24 pm
      Could Trump really do this? My first guess is yes he can.

      – Here’s your answer.

      Richard Rubin
      @RichardRubinDC

      Sec. 7508A of the tax code, which applies after declared disasters, allows administration to postpone tax collection deadlines. It does not change the underlying taxes. And employers may just keep paying rather than deal with the hassle.

    174. PresidentPaul! says:

      Also might I add…3 trillion is probably not going to be enough. These states are going to end up requiring some degree of bailouts. I can see us doing a stimulus bill every few months until we get things more under control.

      So if it’s only an extra trillion that Pelosi wants, and I do say “only”, it’s not worth losing an election over when the end result will be much hyperspending should Biden\Bernie win.

    175. PresidentPaul! says:

      #185
      But the other 50% of the equation aka the employees will have more take home pay, which is needed.

      And any business that is on the verge of bankruptcy will also not be paying those payroll taxes since well…they are on the verge of bankruptcy.

    176. PresidentPaul! says:

      Trump needs to suspend Medicare taxes also btw.

    177. Tina says:

      It’s like suspending loan payment collections.

      They are still owed at some point.

      The drats can sue him.

    178. PresidentPaul! says:

      Powell does have two cards left to play though so I hope Trump is communicating with him and trusts him. Unless Powell wants to die on a hill and give the country to antifa.

      1) Powell keeps saying he’ll never do negative rates. However, when the TSHTF, and Pelosi is pledging to do nothing about it no matter what, he will resort to negative rates rather than just let the world go into a deflationary deathspiral

      2) The blackrock entity that is buying up junk bonds for the Fed actually has it in the small print that they are set up to start buying up equities all they have to do is pull the trigger.

      These are two nuclear weapons the Fed can still use against Pelosi’s brinkmanship if it comes down to it.

    179. Robbie says:

      Negative rates would be a terrible idea. They would unfairly punish savers and savers have been punished greatly over the last 20 years with rates remaining so low for so long.

    180. jason says:

      If Bunu wants trillion dollar giveaways you KNOW it is a bad idea.

    181. jason says:

      I was listening to Raoul Pal on RV today”

      Garbage in, garbage out.

    182. jason says:

      Also might I add…3 trillion is probably not going to be enough”

      Good, because hopefully anything over a trillion is not going to happen.

    183. PresidentPaul! says:

      Yep just like buying junk bonds and then buying equities is a bad idea.

      But it is what it is, and we might have to do it.

      It would be a better outcome than Biden winning though.

    184. jason says:

      Trump in his press conference said he and his advisors are monitoring increases in new cases in Chicago and the Midwest.

      Is Trump spewing leftwing talking points from MSNBC, Jason?”

      Robbie Fraud is now listening to Trump press conferences?

      I didn’t think MSNBC was carrying them anymore.

      Very good, baby steps, baby steps.

    185. jason says:

      We don’t need any 3 trillion dollar boondoggles.

      Hopefully, McConnell won’t drink any Pelosi Koolaid.

    186. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      My hunch is the the Democrats and Trump will eventually reach a deal. No politician from either party wants to face a backlash from voters who did not receive a second stimulus check they had been told to expect.

    187. PresidentPaul! says:

      https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1291884134017581056?s=19

      The Spectator Index (@spectatorindex)
      JUST IN: President Trump announces unemployment benefits will be extended till the end of the year.

    188. jason says:

      July 31 deaths 1458
      July 31 cases 71113

      August 7 deaths 1290
      August 7 cases 63246

      IHME

      Projected Actual
      August 1 970 1123 +153
      August 2 982 467 -515
      August 3 992 568 -424
      August 4 999 1362 +363
      August 5 1005 1311 +306
      August 6 1011 1203 +192
      August 7 1041 1290 +249

    189. Cash Cow TM says:

      WV Update

      The effort by member of WV House of Delegates Wilson (was an R but changed to an I) to get 7,138 signatures on petition to be put on the ballot as candidate for governor in Nov. GE failed to get the required minimum number of signatures. Only got @ 5800 by deadline.

    190. jason says:

      Well, we know Trump was never for small government or fiscal responsibility, he is on record as saying deficits don’t matter, just print money.

      I would cap the new stimulus package at 1 trillion max.

    191. PresidentPaul! says:

      https://kanye2020.country/

      Kanye 2020 country

    192. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Pelosi is trying to get a bailout for leftist cities and municipalities. Trump is playing hardball. After his executive orders, Republicans will propose Congress pass another stimulus check package for individuals. Is Pelosi going to oppose it because it does not include bailout money for state and local governments?

    193. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Trump continued to blame Democrats for not having an agreement on the second stimulus package. He said, “Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer continue to insist on radical left-wing policies that have nothing to do with the China virus. So, you have a virus that comes in, and you have people in Congress that don’t want to help our people.”

      How will Pelosi respond? Newsom demands his federal bailout.

    194. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

      Cities pay out more in taxes to the federal government than they take in so it’s fair to ask for more aid since they’re bearing the brunt of the Coronavirus.

      Also the first 2 trillion dollar package was a massive Republican failure. A tiny one-time stimulus check combined with massive bailouts for the super rich. The stock market did fine because of it while everybody else: average people and small businesses were left to collapse.

      But it matters not to the minds of the far-right geriatrics on this board. Reality is what your echo chambers scream back at you.

    195. PresidentPaul! says:

      If the money is distributed equally to states and cities, and not just given to the cities that had the most riots and encouraged the most looting, I don’t have a problem with the city and state bailouts.

      It actually makes sense because the states have no ability to act counter cyclically, but the federal government does.

      Although certain cities and states deserve blame for this stuff, not all of them do.

    196. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @realDonaldTrump
      Pelosi and Schumer only interested in Bailout Money for poorly run Democrat cities and states. Nothing to do with China Virus! Want one trillion dollars. No interest. We are going a different way!

    197. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      207. Trump is interesting in directly helping individual Americans, not crony politicans who spend like drunk sailors to aid their political pals.

    198. PresidentPaul! says:

      If you watch Raoul Pal interview on RV I posted above, then even if the GOP put in the state\local bailouts the dems would still block it.

      They have conditions they are talking about publically aka state and local, but what they are actually demanding is to address mail in voting in the bill so they can rig the election.

      For instance, if they did just the plain 100% GOP bill but added in the mail fraud provisions, Pelosi would probably support it so the election could be rigged.

    199. lisab says:

      trump: we are not collecting taxes
      (3 months later)
      biden: vote for me and btw pay the $1000 you owe
      trump: vote for me and forget about the $1000

    200. jason says:

      Bunu is full of crap.

      No bail out for mismanaged cities run by Dems, that has nothing to do with COVID.

      But it looks like Trump understands.

      “Pelosi and Schumer only interested in Bailout Money for poorly run Democrat cities and states. Nothing to do with China Virus! Want one trillion dollars. No interest. We are going a different way!”

      Let’s help people who need it.

    201. jason says:

      “I don’t have a problem with the city and state bailouts.”

      I have always said Paulbots were not conservatives, and Bunu proves the point.

    202. jason says:

      I wonder if TrumpWilson is really this stupid in real life or he just plays the part here.

      I guess it is possible.

    203. Tina says:

      On the other thread, the Jebot mentioned being disappointed with fallacy about obtaining a vaccine that is 98 percent or more effective.

      Well fallacy is right per the mslsd article here:

      https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/07/coronavirus-vaccine-dr-fauci-says-chances-of-it-being-highly-effective-is-not-great.html

      This article states, “A 50% effective vaccine would be roughly on par with those for influenza, but below the effectiveness of one dose of a measles vaccination, which is about 93% effective, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.”

    204. Tina says:

      A 50 t9 60 percent vaccine is effective enough, per Facallil

      Seems like the admin is targeting 75 percent, per Dr,
      Hahn at FDA.

      Seems like it’s more fear porn. Scare more folks into thinking that the vaccine is not 100 percent effective, just like the flu vaccine.

    205. Pitchaboy says:

      Even if it is 50 pct effective it is good enough. While it may not give the individual protection, it cuts the chain of transmission and eventually the pandemic flames out.

    206. Tina says:

      From that article

      Unlike Democrats, he’s delivering a clear message that will appeal to the majority of Americans: Send kids back to school, support police officers, and get people back to work now.

    207. Tina says:

      More from the federalist article

      This is already occurring across key states. CNN’s Rich Thau has been conducting focus groups of Obama-Trump voters in the Midwest and found recently that 22 of 33 respondents preferred Trump to Biden. It’s easy to see why. According to Thau:

      They think a businessman is best suited to turn the country around economically. They feel COVID-19 was not Trump’s fault, and he’s doing the best he can to contain it. They conflate the Black Lives Matter protesters with the rioters attacking federal buildings and retail shops. They don’t want historic monuments torn down. And they dismiss defunding the police as ridiculous.
      These voters tell me they want America finally to be put first; they oppose immigration and trade policies they say give benefits to foreigners at their expense. And they want a non-politician who relentlessly fights back, after witnessing too many officeholders fold in the face of special interests.

    208. Stonewall DW says:

      221-and I know that at least some of Trump’s job approval numbers are hurt by people who will vote for him enthusiastically but don’t approve of the job he is doing because he doesn’t come in with tanks and run over the people who are tearing down monuments and destroying property.

      Trump has more or less played this well, allowing the Democrat held municipalities to collapse under the weight of their own stupidity, because that’s the only way some people will learn.

    209. mnw says:

      Tina

      DAMN! Sounds like I was in the focus group. I must’ve forgotten, due to an alcoholic stupor. If I wasn’t in it, my heretofore unknown identical twin must’ve been.

      Of course, 1/3 of the Obama/Trump voters have abandoned Trump… if anyone still believes CNN.

    210. Bitterlaw says:

      Good morning, Pitch. Since we added Phil, we thought it would be helpful to have a doctor on call. How much do you know about A-holes?

    211. Wobbles says:

      if anyone still believes CNN”

      I do.

    212. jason says:

      hey think a businessman is best suited to turn the country around economically. They feel COVID-19 was not Trump’s fault, and he’s doing the best he can to contain it. They conflate the Black Lives Matter protesters with the rioters attacking federal buildings and retail shops. They don’t want historic monuments torn down. And they dismiss defunding the police as ridiculous.”

      So this is what I have been saying the election will be about.

      Is there a majority that accepts this as the new normal? Evidently there are a certainly a lot of them.

      We will see.

    213. Tina says:

      In order for trump to win, he must do the following

      Get Covid cases to 10,000.

      Unemployment to 8.9% by November.

      Stay off Twitter

      -Jebot

    214. jason says:

      For those of you boycotting Drudge, here is a story”

      I am not for boycotts.

      Drudge is now a far left moonbat site.

      As such, I have no interest in either the content or in providing revenue for it by clicking on it.

      But I don’t advocate for others to do the same, Drudge is entitled to post any content they want and calling for a boycott would be as stupid as boycotting Goya because their CEO lauded Trump.

      There are businesses I no longer patronize but don’t call for anyone else to boycott:

      – GM
      – Dicks
      – Gillette
      – Nike
      – NFL

    215. Wobbles says:

      In order for trump to win, he must do the following

      Get Covid cases to 10,000.

      Unemployment to 8.9% by November.

      Stay off Twitter”

      You forgot, he also has to come up with a vaccine in the next 2 weeks.

      And the 8.9% is only tentative, if it does go down to that I will revise to 6%.

    216. Tina says:

      The vaccine must be 100% effective, Wobbles.

      -Jebot

    217. jason says:

      I probably used to click on Drudge 10 times a day.

      I haven’t been there in months.

      No withdrawal symptoms either.

    218. DW says:

      Jason, same here…been drudge free for months.

    219. jason says:

      News you won’t see the MSM or Robbie Fraud mention.

      “The better than expected jobs gains in July boosted black employment in the United States by more than it boosted white employment. As well, the black-white gap in unemployment is at a historic low.

      The number of black Americans holding jobs in the United States rose 1.4 percent in July, according to data released by the Department of Labor Friday. That bested the 0.6 percent gain for white Americans and 0.7 percent gain for Hispanic Americans. The biggest jobs gains went to Asian Americans, who saw total employment rise by 5.1 percent.”

    220. jason says:

      Jason, same here…been drudge free for months.”

      I had read where they had lost a lot of “hits”, but maybe moonbats are now going there to read the 100% Trump bashing headlines.

    221. Tina says:

      I thought I read that black unemployment is still lower now than under China Biden-obumbler reign ,

    222. Pitchaboy says:

      BL: Know a bit. Know you, Jason, SB, Phil are part of the club. Know MD was too. Always wondered As to why Wes was not: incisive political thinker.

    223. NYCmike says:

      “The stock market did fine because of it while everybody else: average people and small businesses were left to collapse.”

      -Considering my accounts are back up to and/or above where they were in February, I guess I am NOT an “average” person!

    224. Phil says:

      Yes. Bring Pitch in. Being the junior member is hell. I get all the sh*t details. Expand the membership rolls. Do it today.

    225. NYCmike says:

      “Expand the membership rolls. Do it today.”

      -Nobody…..I mean NO BO DY…..likes a loose A-Hole!

      Keep those A-Hole rolls, and rules, T I G H T ! !

    226. Robbie says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      August 8, 2020 at 7:39 am
      Even if it is 50 pct effective it is good enough. While it may not give the individual protection, it cuts the chain of transmission and eventually the pandemic flames out.

      – On top of that, those who may still get infected would only get mild symptoms like that of a cold.

    227. Robbie says:

      Florida reported a bit more than 8,500 cases today. That’s still under last Saturday’s total, though. Based on hospital data and other statistics that show levels returning to mid-June, I would suspect the bump up in cases the last few days is simply the reporting backfilling from the hurricane interruption.

    228. NYCmike says:

      https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2020/08/07/black-employment-rose-faster-than-white-employment-in-july-black-white-jobless-gap-at-historic-low/

      “The better than expected jobs gains in July boosted black employment in the United States by more than it boosted white employment. As well, the black-white gap in unemployment is at a historic low.”

      -“CG” was right!

      Trump is racist……against WHITE PEOPLE!

      It ISN’T OK to be white!

    229. NYCmike says:

      Since Robbie won’t vote for the candidate who is helping black Americans more than white Americans, does that make him a racist?

    230. Cash Cow TM says:

      WV Update… err…Update

      The member of the WV House of Delegates (former R, now recently Indy) who failed to get enough signatures to be on Nov. ballot for governor…

      …He now moves to the courts to continue his fight to be on the ballot…and if he loses there plans to fight a vigorous write in campaign in Nov. for “liberty” and to “restore the Republic.”

      ************************************

      I guess one of his priorities when he wins the court battle / write in vote and is overwhelmingly elected governor is to spend money to buy more lances to tilt at windmills.

    231. Robbie says:

      Tina says:
      August 8, 2020 at 7:26 am
      A 50 t9 60 percent vaccine is effective enough, per Facallil

      Seems like the admin is targeting 75 percent, per Dr,
      Hahn at FDA.

      Seems like it’s more fear porn. Scare more folks into thinking that the vaccine is not 100 percent effective, just like the flu vaccine.

      – I thought Fauci’s comments yesterday were borderline outrageous. A vaccine doesn’t have to be “highly effective” (98%) to have a massive positive impact. Yet when people read or hear the headline “Fauci doesn’t expect highly effective vaccine”, they may lose confidence in the product and decide not to take it.

      I don’t know how “98% effective” became synonymous with “highly effective”, but three of the more important vaccines we have don’t have 98% effectiveness.

      – One dose of the measles vaccine is 93% effective
      – Two doses of the chicken pox vaccine 90% effective
      – Two doses of the polio vaccine are 90% effective

      By Fauci’s definition, none of those vaccines are “highly effective”, but does anyone get the measles, chicken pox, or polio anymore? Other than anit-vax communities, nope.

      For the life of me, I don’t understand why Fauci is saying things like this. He knows full well the ones in the works will likely provide a high degree of protection and for those who do get infected the symptoms will be little more than a mild cold, if that.

      The man talks tooo much. He ought to follow the lead of his boss, Dr. Francis Collins, who says little but gets a lot done.

    232. Tina says:

      Time For Fauci (and Birx) to Exit Left Stage
      Congressman Andy Biggs Congressman Andy Biggs |Posted

      https://townhall.com/capitol-voices/congressmanandybiggs/2020/08/07/time-for-fauci-and-birx-to-exit-left-stage-n2573936

    233. NYCmike says:

      “The man talks tooo much. He ought to follow the lead of his boss, Dr. Francis Collins, who says little but gets a lot done.”

      -Someone please elaborate on this…….Fauci has a boss?

      I thought he was running this country behind the scenes, like a like Wizard of OZ.

    234. Phil says:

      247

      Damn. I find myself in complete agreement with Robbie here. This is scary.

    235. NYCmike says:

      Double “like”……whats that about!?!?

    236. Robbie says:

      Worldometers has changed to the Florida number today down to just over 7,000.

    237. Tina says:

      Hold2
      @Hold2LLC
      ·
      1m
      AZ COVID Metrics “Quick Update”: 8/8/20

      DOWN, down, down, down, down…

      It’s hard to believe how steep this drop is. Raises a lot of questions about numbers during the ramp-up…

      – C19 Hosps another huge drop
      – C19 ICU/Vents solid drops again
      – Cases way down

      Charts today

    238. PresidentPaul! says:

      I think Fauci is right.

      I never really thought a vaccine would work well on a common cold in fact I would have expected it to work even more poorly than it does for the common flu.

    239. Phil says:

      If Fauci was right it will be the first time…..but he’s not.

    240. Bitterlaw says:

      We never considered Wes for membership in the A-holes because we could not afford the liability insurance for harassment claims.

    241. Robbie says:

      There’s no vaccine for the common cold because there are thousands of viruses that cause the common cold and there’s never been a reason to try and create one. Why spend millions and millions of dollars to create a vaccine for an illness that resolves itself in seven days?

      Whatever I think about the severity of this coronavirus, it certainly has a negative impact certain subset of people that common colds don’t.

      Fauci has apparently decided to say all things to all people. Since he apparently doesn’t have much to do in his day job, Fauci gave an interview to one of the local stations in Louisville yesterday. he said he was optimistic the vaccines would be effective.

      It’s hard to be wrong if you come down on every side of the issue like Fauci has.

    242. Robbie says:

      Worldometers is back to 8,500 cases for Florida. My guess is this hurricane backlogs.

    243. Robbie says:

      Yet another disconnect between what Fauci says and what the drug companies say. Fauci told a local TV station in Louisville yesterday that we should have enough vaccine for widespread use by the second half of 2021. That’s basically another 10 months of this.

      On the other hand, the agreements the drug companies have suggest something different. AstraZeneca has promised 100 million doses by October and another 200 million by January 2021. Moderna has promised 100 million doses by the end of the year. Pfizer has promised 100 million doses by the end of the year.

      How do we square these comments? Is Fauci purposefully under delivering? Have the drug companies misled the public? Were the proclamations made by HHS about what their contracts required from drug makes wrong or misleading?

      The goal of Operation Warp Speed is to have 300 million doses by January 2021. Either this is another instance of Fauci running his mouth and speaking out of turn, or the drug manufacturers have mislead the public about how much they can produce.

    244. Blobbie says:

      They think a businessman is best suited to turn the country around economically. They feel COVID-19 was not Trump’s fault, and he’s doing the best he can to contain it. They conflate the Black Lives Matter protesters with the rioters attacking federal buildings and retail shops. They don’t want historic monuments torn down. And they dismiss defunding the police as ridiculous.
      These voters tell me they want America finally to be put first; they oppose immigration and trade policies they say give benefits to foreigners at their expense. And they want a non-politician who relentlessly fights back, after witnessing too many officeholders fold in the face of special interests.
      ———————————-

      Now I am really concerned!

      Clearly we need Biden to win.

    245. Skippy says:

      Biden/Rice.

      Don’t even ask me how I know because none of you would believe me.

      I will tell the story once it becomes public.

    246. lisab says:

      well rice is selling her netflix stock

    247. Robbie says:

      Skippy says:
      August 8, 2020 at 1:25 pm
      Biden/Rice.

      Don’t even ask me how I know because none of you would believe me.

      I will tell the story once it becomes public.

      – Good to see you posting.

      Rice seems like the least awful choice for Biden.

    248. lisab says:

      a good choice for vp i think

      Susan Rice is the VP Biden needs (cnn)

    249. Gordon Allen says:

      Fauci IS remarkably consistent. He makes any claim that argues for shutting the country down…until November 4. Seen in that light he makes sense.

    250. Stonewall DW says:

      So what are the pros/cons on Susan Rice?

    251. Robbie says:

      Stonewall DW says:
      August 8, 2020 at 1:48 pm
      So what are the pros/cons on Susan Rice?

      – Pros – she’s not Kamala Harris or Elizabeth Warren

      Cons – everything else

    252. Chester says:

      So what are the pros/cons on Susan Rice?

      Benghazi. Thats all you need to know. Oh Marxist, Anti-American, socialist, too. Biden/Rice would lose in a landslide. Pick her, Rotting Carcass. #KAG2020

    253. Chester says:

      EVERYONE should know and understand this one thing!

      Whoever is selected as VP for the left, WILL BE YOUR POTUS within 6 months IF the left somehow cheats and wins.

      As an American, WE CANNOT AFFORD to gamble away our freedoms and liberties, our very way of life, if not for us, for our children’s sake.

      GET OUT THE VOTE and drag anyone and everyone you can with you to the polls. This is it. We either continue on the path of restoration or go full blown Socialism/Communism.

      It’s our choice. LETS DO WHAT WE KNOW NEEDS TO BE DONE!

      MAGA/KAG
      2020/2024 and beyond!

    254. Just Fill Out The Census says:

      EVERYONE should know that Trump’s presidency is ONE BIG TURD!

      The post above mine is ridiculous but a great example of why Trump is going to be crushed in November.

    255. ducpubhxb says:

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    256. Just Fill Out The Census says:

      I’m looking forward to normalcy returning to this country.

    257. PresidentPaul! says:

      Republicans will pick up Alabama senate seat. +1

      There are two blue states that are dem pickup opportunities: Colorado and Maine. They definitely win Colorado. -1

      Then there are two purple states NC and Arizona that look to be dem pick ups. -2

      So that means the communists need one more seat to take the senate: Maine is the most likely target.

      That race seems to be the lynch pin because Collins usually runs some points ahead of Trump, and Trump only lost the state by 3.

    258. NYCmike says:

      I don’t think Colorado should be written off just yet.

      Gardner won it once. No reason why he can’t win it again.

    259. Robbie says:

      Just Fill Out The Census says:
      August 8, 2020 at 2:28 pm
      I’m looking forward to normalcy returning to this country.

      – Regardless of politics, do you really think that’s going to happen?

      There are so many governors (both R and D) and medical officials who are determined not to give up the control they’ve taken.

      I’m already seeing “experts” who said a vaccine is the only way back to normal now saying that a vaccine is just a first step and we’ll need masks and social distancing for several more years.

      I no longer believe we’ll get our February 2020 lives back, at least not any time soon. It’s unlikely we’ll have full football, baseball, or basketball stadiums for years due to health restrictions.

    260. Annie says:

      Word is Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan is the top choice with the real powers that be for Biden’s VP. The wicked witch of the North was seen flying her broomstick to Delaware. Obviously, they think she’ll ensure they get Michigan in their column…and she isn’t even a female of color.

    261. lisab says:

      i don’t think there will be much ticket splitting

      either the dems win the white house and the senate

      or

      they lose the white house and the senate

    262. lisab says:

      Word is Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan is the top choice with the real powers that be for Biden’s VP
      ———————–

      maybe joe forgot and offered the vp slot to both 🙂

      personally, i think michigan is likely to go for trump

      biden is pissing of the african americans, and kanye will possibly be on the ballot

    263. jason says:

      Rice is the worst kind of Marxist, one that is not afraid of going on every TV show in the country to lie for the cause.

      Completely amoral.

    264. lisab says:

      but otoh, i think pa will likely go for biden

      i know that most people think michigan is LESS likely than PA for trump

      i think that kanye on the michigan ballot would hurt biden a lot

    265. jason says:

      Noncensus is predicting Biden will win?

      Now THAT is good news, although one day he might make a prediction that is right.

      Nahhh……

    266. Big Joe says:

      A split decisions looks very likely at this time. Grampa Joe can win MI, WI, PA, and even AZ but GOP could hold the Senate. That’s assuming that states vote for Prez and Sen from the same party (as they did in ’16).

      BJ

    267. jason says:

      I no longer believe we’ll get our February 2020 lives back, at least not any time soon.”

      Straight out of MSNBC and CNN.

      I am prescient.

      I predicted that as soon as a vaccine got close, Robbie Fraud would move the goalposts, because a vaccine might be good for Trump

      Bingo.

      But the truth is, we can get back to normal with or without a vaccine.

      It just takes political will and common sense. Not that either are readily available.

    268. jason says:

      i know that most people think michigan is LESS likely than PA for trump”

      Me, me, me.

      I think PA is more likely, although I would not be surprised if he won both.

      Or, if people are really ready for socialism, he loses both.

    269. Stonewall DW says:

      I mentioned it earlier in the week, looking at the last ten polls of PA, including all the leftist ones, FIVE out of the last TEN polls of PA show a race within 3 points. That cannot be said at this time of MI or WI.

      Its why I think PA gives the presidency to Trump, in the scenario where Trump wins.

    270. Chester says:

      About Susan Rice. Considering she still remains a traitor, she probably is the leftist perfect pick. Benghazi is still denied justice for the fallen four. Benghazi proved that she was willing to straight faced lie to the American people, which would make her a good fit for the Rotting Carcass campaign. The VP pick will have so many lies to tell, starting with
      “Joe Biden is of competent and sound mind.”

      American people will not vote for an ugly traitor, America hating Feminazi. Susan would be a real gift. #KAG2020

    271. jason says:

      But I agree with lisab that a split is extremely unlikely.

      If the country really wants a change in the system of government, Dems will win the Presidency and the senate.

      If a majority don’t like what the Dems are offering as a system of government, Rs will win both.

    272. Stonewall DW says:

      By comparison to 2016, looking at the ten PA polls leading up to August 8, 2016, only TWO out of the TEN polls showed the race within 3 points. Evidence that Trump is running stronger than four years ago in PA.

    273. lisab says:

      if the election is on the direction of the country

      there won’t be ticket splitting

      and if schumer is now saying schools need to open, you can be sure the polling is telling the dems they are losing voters on the direction of the country

    274. lisab says:

      parents do NOT want to stay home with their kids

    275. Big Joe says:

      PA does look to be the tightest of the Big 3. I thought it would be WI.

      BJ

    276. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      August 8, 2020 at 3:11 pm
      I no longer believe we’ll get our February 2020 lives back, at least not any time soon.”

      Straight out of MSNBC and CNN.

      I am prescient.

      I predicted that as soon as a vaccine got close, Robbie Fraud would move the goalposts, because a vaccine might be good for Trump

      Bingo.

      But the truth is, we can get back to normal with or without a vaccine.

      It just takes political will and common sense. Not that either are readily available.

      – You’re a complete moron. I have argued repeatedly we should open up and cast off these restrictions.

      I have discussed with pitch why even a 50% effective vaccine should completely end this nonsense.

      What I’m stating is I don’t think governors and mayors and health officials will let a vaccine be the end of this. They’ve fallen in love with their powers and they won’t give them up easily.

      I’m not moving the goalpost, idiot. I’m trying to come to terms with the sad reality we face. Even your boy Fauci, who you want to give a presidential medal of freedom to every other day says we’ll need to do masks and social distancing even after a vaccine is widely administered.

    277. jason says:

      I agree with the troll that Susan Rice would probably be the WORST pick from a moral standpoint, and that she has a lot of baggage.

      A truly despicable person.

      It would truly be the most ethically challenged ticket in History, even worse than Obama-Biden.

    278. jason says:

      I’m not moving the goalpost, idiot. I’m trying to come to terms with the sad reality we face.”

      LOL

    279. lisab says:

      as Brandan said a few days ago

      if you want (most) teachers to work on preparing for teaching online, you need to pay them more, their contracts don’t start until september (a paraphrase)

      most schools are no where close to ready to open for online or mixed classes

    280. lisab says:

      PA does look to be the tightest of the Big 3. I thought it would be WI.
      ————————

      kanye is likely to throw WI to trump

      if on the ticket he gets 1 percent

      if kept off the ballot by dems, i think he keeps several percent from voting for biden

    281. jason says:

      What I’m stating is I don’t think governors and mayors and health officials will let a vaccine be the end of this. They’ve fallen in love with their powers and they won’t give them up easily.”

      What a crock of crap.

    282. Blobbie says:

      I’m not moving the goalpost, idiot. I’m trying to come to terms with the sad reality we face.”
      ——————————-

      If Trump finds a cure by tomorrow, then maybe he might not lose too badly

    283. jason says:

      All the private schools in my area have signs that they are reopening.

      They say they are committed to real schooling, five days a week.

      The public schools are onboard with the BS “three days a week” idiocy.

    284. Gordon Allen says:

      Jeez. I must have been in a coma in 2016. I don’t remember any poll showing Trump leading in Michigan or Wisconsin in July or August,or for that matter my state of Florida. I guess Hillary won after all and I missed by it. The polls can’t all be wrong I guess. I’m sure they are more even handed now.

    285. Hugh says:

      Tillis will win NC. I can’t see much ticket splitting by trump voters for house or senate given all the investigation last launched by congressional dems against trump.

    286. Tgca says:

      Twee hundwid and twee! Yay!

    287. jason says:

      It is hilarious.

      I stated dozens of times here that Robbie Fraudster was just using the vaccine as some kind of stupid MSM benchmark so that if it didn’t happen it would be Trump’s fault, but if it did come close to fruition he would move the goalposts immediately.

      I am a prescient genius.

      Ok, ok, yeah, it was predictable.

    288. Scooterboy says:

      DW on Twitter-“ A Trump-Kelly ticket split is looking increasingly likely in Arizona.”

      R’s have gotten 702,516 total votes compared to D’s 636,089 in Arizona. This does not look like a “lean Biden” state. Plus R’s have outvoted D’s in Maricopa country.

    289. Scooterboy says:

      Bitter- “ We never considered Wes for membership in the A-holes because we could not afford the liability insurance for harassment claims.”

      Didn’t stop Kim from filing one against me. By the way, how is my defense coming along? I’m paying you to represent me, and haven’t heard from you in months. You sneaky BASTARD!!!!

      Although if Phil presents photographic evidence that you really wear a thong, I may have to reconsider having you represent me. No way I could sit beside you in court with that optic going through my head over and over again.

    290. mnw says:

      I’m at the Lake of the Ozarks.* Haven’t seen a mask in 3 days.

      *(where I vote, btw)

    291. Scooterboy says:

      People’s Pundit- “ While the media polls were always out in left field, support for school closures is collapsing, especially with the middle to middle-upper class suburban mother they are relying on to beat back the massive rural vote that offset urban votes.”

    292. Scooterboy says:

      308. Explains the sudden U-turns Schumer & Cuomo have taken on school closings.

    293. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      August 8, 2020 at 3:30 pm
      It is hilarious.

      I stated dozens of times here that Robbie Fraudster was just using the vaccine as some kind of stupid MSM benchmark so that if it didn’t happen it would be Trump’s fault, but if it did come close to fruition he would move the goalposts immediately.

      I am a prescient genius.

      Ok, ok, yeah, it was predictable.

      – You’re a moron. I’ve said repeatedly I think we should cast off these restrictions and that a vaccine should end this. I’ve also repeatedly given Trump credit for pushing to get a vaccine as quickly as possible.

      But if you think governors, mayors, and public health officials (like your transgender doctor in PA) are going to just let this end, you haven’t been paying attention to the last six months. People who take power in a crisis don’t give it up without a fight.

    294. Chester says:

      Trump to issue EO eliminating payroll tax. About time. Executive Branch is the only branch that truly cares about the American way of life. Roberts has destroyed the Supreme court and Congress is irrelevant. DC still reaks of statists and swamp creatures but Trump is winning.

      Thank you, President Trump! No payroll tax, no evictions, take care of the unemployed, and $1,200 to Americans BUT NOT to DACA and NOT to illegals.

      DemocRATs triggered!

    295. Tina says:

      This should be good news.

      Jeryl Bier
      @JerylBier
      · 3h
      Per @CDCgov data, COVID-19 hospitalizations as of August 1 were at the lowest level since June, which is also the lowest since the pandemic ramped up in March.
      https://gis.cdc.gov/grasp/COVIDNet/COVID19_3.html

    296. Tina says:

      Yup looks like schoo closing and rioting are not,polling well.

    297. Tina says:

      School*

    298. lisab says:

      he can only stop collection

      not the tax

      but i think people should see the amount of tax they owe and write a check for the full amount

      let the middle class and working class get angry

    299. lisab says:

      school closings not polling well
      —-

      not in the burbs

      people in some of the burbs pay very high property taxes for schools

      and now they still have to pay but get no services

    300. lisab says:

      brandon needs to get paid whether he works or not

    301. lisab says:

      this will in effect be another — albeit short-term trump tax cut

      because there is no way the dems will be able to say, “vote for biden and oh btw pay all those back taxes”

      while trump could run on cancelling the back taxes

      if worse comes to worse he could just pardon those who don’t pay them

      much like the vietnam draft dodgers

    302. Tina says:

      Taxation without representation, Lisab.

    303. Tina says:

      Likes
      Shem Horne’s Tweets

      Shem Horne
      @Shem_Infinite
      ·
      1m
      A maniac reporter wouldn’t stop screaming about President Trump trying to help American workers keep more of their money, provide rent protection during the pandemic, and expand unemployment aid so President Trump ended the news conference. The press is garbage.

    304. Tina says:

      With the 4 executive orders, the jebots can now sue Trump.

    305. Scooterboy says:

      320. Yep, saw that.

      He actually allowed that reporter to ask 3 questions before he attempted to move on to someone else. She wouldn’t stop yelling out questions, so he just said Thank You and walked off.

      If these reporters are going to act like spoiled little children, then treat them like spoiled little children.

    306. Tina says:

      Reeeeeeee

      Club protesters protesting media.

      Trump,handing out pens to club members.

    307. Hugh says:

      The dems needed schools to close to boost their argument that it’s not safe to vote in person. That’s it in a nutshell with cases down, deaths down, kids in school and no criticism of protests the argument for mail in ballots is weak.

    308. lisab says:

      taxation without representation

      james otis

      the founding father replaced by john adams

      because james otis went crazy, possibly from lead poisoning

    309. Chester says:

      Press is triggered as usual. DemocRATS can sue Trump who is only trying to help the people. That will go over well with the people.

      Trump again destroys the press and the DemoRATs! MAGA! If there was any doubt, there’s no doubt now, Trump will win in a landslide. #KAG2020

    310. Chester says:

      We forced them to open up their cities and states. We forced them open schools. We force them to vote in person. We always win. All they can do is burn their own cities and kill their own.

    311. Tina says:

      Breaking911
      @Breaking911
      · 4m
      BREAKING: Trump signs executive orders to extend unemployment benefits, provide a payroll tax holiday, defer student loan payments and extend the federal moratorium on evictions, after talks in Congress collapsed; Democrats vow to sue the President – CNBC

    312. Chester says:

      Democrats vow to sue the President

      I would love to see that! #KAG2020

    313. Brandon says:

      #317. Yes, please pay me.

    314. Tina says:

      I agree with the Democrats suing Trump over the executive orders.

      -Jebot

    315. Hugh says:

      Outsmarted again. Please sue Trump. They should have cut their best deal and moved on.

    316. Chester says:

      Can’t wait for the D-RAT lawsuit.

      D RAT Lawyer: No money to the Americans. Instead send 3 Trillion to Antifa and illegals.

      It should be broadcast on TV for all the people to see.

      Trump will win 350 electoral votes. #KAG2020

    317. Gordon Allen says:

      I can’t see how the Democrat’s win this one politically. Trump outmaneuvers them all the time; it’s like Lucy and Charlie Brown.

    318. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The cause of the California debacle in counting COVID-19 cases. Newsom’s political future may be put in jeopardy by this clown show.

      “A server outage and a delay in renewing a certificate to receive lab data blocked thousands of COVID-19 test results from reaching the state since late last month, keeping officials in the dark about the disease’s spread, California’s health agency chief said Friday.
      “Our data system failed, and that failure led to inaccurate case numbers and positivity rates,” Dr. Mark Ghaly said. “We apologize. You deserve better. The governor demands better.”
      * * *
      Ghaly said his office believes the problem began July 25, when a server running part of the overtaxed system lost power. Officials made some “technical changes” to address the problem, but then did not revert those changes, causing further data delays.
      * * *
      Around the same time, the state stopped receiving data from Quest labs, a major source of COVID-19 case information, because officials failed to renew a certificate to receive the data on time, Ghaly said.
      Now, the state has an estimated backlog of 250,000 to 300,000 disease reports to process, most of which are COVID-19 cases. Officials have implemented a series of workarounds and checks to ensure data is processed on time moving forward, Ghaly said.”

    319. Bitterlaw says:

      Remember when we hated Executive Orders?

      But Bitter…

      I don’t care about any of it right now. I am in a town of death. I visited my niece’s grave. I am caring for my declining dad. This is a day I am so relieved that I do not own a gun.

    320. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      336. Hang in there Bitter. There is a light at the end of the tunnel; and all this is happening for a reason that we don’t yet understand. Somewhere in our future existance we will learn why all this had to be.

    321. Tina says:

      Scott Gottlieb, MD
      @ScottGottliebMD
      · 23m
      One of the largest studies to date of the Covid infection fatality rate (IFR not CFR). Overall, the IFR estimate was 0.83% for confirmed Covid deaths and 1.07% based on estimated Covid deaths. The IFR was higher in men and rose sharply with increasing age. https://medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.06.20169722v1.full.pdf

    322. Bitterlaw says:

      Thanks, SDC. Not everybody is willing to embrace an A-hole who is venting.

    323. Victrc says:

      Bitter

      I feel you pain. My wife left and took the kids who were my life this week. They are the only thing that keeps me from sharing that gun.

    324. Bitterlaw says:

      Vic -Talk to SDC. If he can relax an A-hole, he can cheer you up.

    325. Gordon Allen says:

      Victrc. That is heartbreaking. I’ve known those who have had that happen. You’re in my prayers as is bitterlaw. I’m sure you don’t feel it can be done,but have faith, persevere and ultimately things can work out. Best

    326. Bitterlaw says:

      Vic- I am sorry. When I read your post I thought you meant your wife took your children on vacation. I did not think it meant she moved out. Sorry.

    327. Victrc says:

      Thanks Bitter. Thanks Gordon. It was unexpected. It was a crappy week hence no posting. I appreciate the support

    328. Robbie says:

      Oh, wow. A backlog of maybe 300,000 corona cases in California?

      Are they now reporting some of those cases, or is that big cache of tests still hanging out there?

    329. Scooterboy says:

      Trump outmaneuvered the Dems big time.

    330. Tina says:

      There are 300,000 test results pending.

      Not just from the Chinese Virus.

      A masssive screw up by Governor Nuissance.

      But doesn’t his hair look nice?

    331. Tina says:

      Massive trump rally in Beverly Hills Ca (by far my most favorite shopping district)

      https://twitter.com/JCMounduix/status/1292260725973323776

    332. Annie says:

      347 – Tina
      I call him Governor Weasel-face.

    333. Tina says:

      Hated him, when he was SF Mayor.

      I accidentally ran intto him and Kimberley Gilfoyle back in the day.

    334. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Someone once made a good observation: “Just when I found all the answers to life, they changed all the questions.”

    335. Robbie says:

      Now that Worldometers has closed out the day, I would call it a mixed bag. This Saturday was lower than last Saturday, but not by much and Alabama and Louisiana didn’t even report results. This is first no so good day in about two weeks so we were due for one.

      The California news could mean there’s a cache of 25,000 to 30,000 backlogged tests lurking and the Midwest is creeping upwards. Fortunately though, indicators which are closer to real time like hospital admissions and census are both declining across the country.

      I think tracking the case totals is an important barometer, but I also acknowledge that the number is stale in many case since the lag time can be a week.

      If ER visits, doctors office visit, and hospital census are any indication, we’re probably in much better shape than the case count suggests.

    336. Robbie says:

      SDC

      I’m reading about the case backlog in California. If I’m reading it correctly, the issue only affect the first five or so days of the months and the results we’ve seen since aren’t affected. Is that how you read it, or is the data still flawed?

    337. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @HerschelWalker
      We keep hearing the importance of Freedom of Speech.. but let’s not forget we have Freedom of Religion. Never give up our right to worship! If we can protest, we can get back to Church! #

      @willchamberlain
      Church services are just peaceful protests against atheism

    338. Tina says:

      Thanks for the China virus report, Cn and n.

    339. Tina says:

      Lol, this person is a riot.

      The COVID Tracking Project
      @COVID19Tracking
      · 3h
      It’s difficult to understand what’s happening with COVID-19 data right now, but we’re hoping to see better data soon as CA reporting problems are fixed, FL testing gets back up to speed, and hospital data improves nationally.
      Show this thread

    340. PresidentPaul! says:

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/08/want-steal-election-president-trump-rips-pelosi-schumer-holding-stimulus-talks-hostage-announces-will-sign-coronavirus-executive-orders-video/

      Trump verifies what Raoul Paul claimed yesterday: that the stimulus bill was held hostage requiring the GOP to support the mail in voting scam to fix the election for the dems.

    341. Tina says:

      Be ready. The jebots will go here next.

      8
      43
      124

      Ethical Skeptic ?
      @EthicalSkeptic
      ·
      1h
      During this next week, we may well venture into territory where the majority of reported deaths did not even occur in the week/month, much less reasonable day of reporting.

      You saw the NY Times today prepping minds for laundering lockdown deaths as ‘Covid deaths’. Be ready.

    342. Robbie says:

      Isn’t it time to call them Kasichbots since he’s the one who’ll be speaking in support of Biden at his convention?

    343. Tina says:

      And the beauty is that the jebots will sue the American worker.

      Alice Stewart
      @alicetweet
      ·
      4h
      Payroll tax cut, eviction moratorium, extra $400 / week for unemployed people, and student loan relief will actually help those in need – as opposed to Dems proposals to bailout liberal cities.

    344. jason says:

      August 1 deaths 1123
      August cases 58535

      August 8 deaths 980
      August 8 cases 54199

      IHME

      Projected Actual
      August 1 970 1123 +153
      August 2 982 467 -515
      August 3 992 568 -424
      August 4 999 1362 +363
      August 5 1005 1311 +306
      August 6 1011 1203 +192
      August 7 1041 1290 +249
      August 8 1048 980 -68

    345. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      353. I don’t know; I doubt at this point we are getting the full story yet.

      I agree with those who state that case count is not a good surrogate marker to determine whether the epidemic is growing. Sweden began to do major testing in June and the amount of new cases skyrocketed. Yet June was also the month Sweden’s coronavirus death rate began to plummet. By July 1st the daily death 7-day moving average was only 18; by July 31st it had fallen to 2. As of August 7 the seven day average daily deaths are 1.

    346. jason says:

      I think tracking the case totals is an important barometer, but..

      LOL

      Robbie Fraudster goalpost moving alert!

    347. Tina says:

      The Ca officials claim that the glitch has been fixed.

      They say to focus on hospitalization and icu count.

    348. Tina says:

      With respect to hospitalizations ans icu counts, those numbers have plunged in California.

    349. PresidentPaul! says:

      Slobber dog doesnt have any children that want to be gop politicians unlike jeb though.

      He knows his political career is over.

    350. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Trump’s next action should be to demand that Congress vote on the second round of stimulus payments separately. It will clearly show the Democrats are playing games.

    351. Tina says:

      I think trump is implementing Bannon strategy of flooding the zone with sheot.

      He is suffocating the Dratts, dwarfing China’ Biden’s veep announcement,

      China has flatlined the last month.

    352. Chester says:

      For all the squishes complaining about EO’s, you know Roberts basically said EO’s can’t be reversed by the next president. So screw it, rule by EO. I don’t care. We do what needs to be done to save the country from Commies.

      Help the people out they vote. We win in November. We replace the other Rotting Carcasses seat (RBG), send the illegals back, and make the payroll tax cut permanent. #KAG2020. KEEP AMERICA GREAT

      If you don’t like that, then run Mitt in a primary against Trump. #MAGA2020

    353. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      A major question in this election is whether Biden is even capable of debating. His mental situation appears to have deteriorated. I wonder if one reason Trump is polling better is voters are taking a closer look at Biden, and seeing red flags.

    354. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      369. Trump reversed a multitude of executive orders issued by Obama. In most circumstances an incoming president can withdraw a past presidents executive orders. You may be referring to whether a new president can do anything to reverse what happened as a result of a past president’s excutive order?

    355. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      August 8, 2020 at 9:46 pm
      I think tracking the case totals is an important barometer, but..

      LOL

      Robbie Fraudster goalpost moving alert!

      – I’ve been saying this for months. I said it in June when you said no one cares about the number of new cases.

    356. Chester says:

      We are at war. The Socialists and Statists don’t even hide it anymore. Theyre the same now. Remember Romney voting for the hoax impeachment. Remember “We are all Democracts now”? Remember Roberts keeping Obamcare and Daca alive? This is war.

      Completely bogus polling, completely backwards media. hoaxes ever day. Glorification of rioting and looting.

      This is war. Save your sorry EO “concerns” and Social Security “concerns”. We lose this war and there won’t even be a country with EOs and Social Security, just a deep nanny state with all of us in internment camps.

    357. Tina says:

      I am sure that sotohatewhiteymor will reverse trumps e.o.

      Or maybe the Hawaiian judge.

    358. Chester says:

      They shut down the whole damn country to try to defeat Trump that resulted in Americans dying. They have declared war. They are traitors and need to be defeated. And people are “concerned” about EO’s. Seriously #KAG2020

    359. Tina says:

      China’s murder hornets spotted in England.

      Did they also “escape“ the lab like the virus?

    360. Tina says:

      Joel Fischer
      @JFNYC1
      · Aug 7
      Joe Biden’s mind is like a web browser. 19 tabs are open, 17 are frozen and he has no idea where the music is coming from

    361. Robbie says:

      This story comes from the Atlantic and I think it’s pretty interesting. Long story short. The coronavirus is here to stay, but it’s likely to morph into a common cold like the other four known coronas that cause common colds due to immunity being attained by society and vaccines. The story even quoted some who believe many of the colds we suffer through in the winter got their starts as pandemics.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/08/coronavirus-will-never-go-away/614860/

    362. Chester says:

      China virus will be gone on November 3. Statists and Marxists will move to their next hoax. #MAGA2020

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    364. PresidentPaul! says:

      about 21% of the ballots were disqualified in NY’s mail in fraud election

      Republicans will pick up Alabama senate seat. +1 There are two blue states that are dem pickup opportunities: Colorado and Maine. They definitely win Colorado. -1 Then there are two purple states NC and Arizona that look to be dem pick ups. -2 So that means the communists need one more seat to take the senate: Maine is the most likely target. That race seems to be the lynch pin because Collins usually runs some points ahead of Trump, and Trump only lost the state by 3.

      “The disaster has now turned into a legal mess, with a federal judge ruling Monday that “thousands of voters” were disenfranchised because of “tardy mailing and processing” of the ballots. Lawyer Arthur Schwartz said: “A 26 percent invalidation rate is astounding. It’s very troubling. The envelope with directions for the signature was so poorly designed.””

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    366. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      A couple days ago I mentioned the thalidomide tragedy in a post. Today I saw someone who might have been a victim of it. A male in his seventies who was possibly mentality impaired; maybe homeless. His hand was directly connected and dangling uselessly from near his shoulder. He did not have a forearm. I cannot even begin to imagine what he has gone through in his life.

    367. jason says:

      I said it in June when you said no one cares about the number of new cases”

      Maybe you can find even ONE post where I ever said that.

      Or did I say the MSM and useful idiots like you were using new cases out of context to instill fear and panic and use it as an excuse for new shutdowns and to attack Trump?

      Or did I say new cases was a poor barometer to assess the pandemic given the massive increase in testing, the localized nature of the outbreaks, and the fact it was affecting a different type of patient, younger and with much lower mortality?

      Or did I quote verbatim the head of one of the biggest private health care systems in PA who said number of cases was the WORST barometer to assess the pandemic?

    368. jason says:

      This story comes from the Atlantic”

      Dang, Robbie Fraudster is expanding his horizons, he unglued his eyes from MSNBC for 5 minutes to read another far leftist fake news rag like the Atlantic?

    369. jason says:

      I think “Chester” is ssq’s husband.

    370. jason says:

      The same people that were ok with Obama governing by EO are now triggered that Trump is doing the same thing.

      Conversely, those here that complained about it are now ok with it.

      I will take a consistent approach. I am still against EO’s whether by Trump or Obama.

      I do see the emergency nature of the EOs here that did not exist in the case of Obama but it is still, in principle, a bad idea.

    371. jason says:

      I’ve been saying this for months. I said it in June when you said no one cares about the number of new cases.”

      Poor Robbie Fraudster is really confused.

      I have been posting the number of new cases nightly here for months. Not only that, I post the comparison with the new cases reported 7 days prior. Remarkable I would have over 100 posts on something I don’t “care” about.

      But I understand if he doesn’t see it, it is hard to do it when your head is so far up Rachel Madcow’s ass.

    372. Phil says:

      I’m also opposed to it in principle.

      It’s eighty some odd days until the election. The leftists have flat out told us what they have planned for us if they take power.

      Right this moment,principle be damned. If they win this election our principles won’t be worth a bucket of spit.

    373. Bitterlaw says:

      All Executive Orders are equal. Some Executive Orders are more equal than others.

    374. Bitterlaw says:

      Every election is the most important election in history. Time to win this one.

    375. Gordon Allen says:

      EO’s when based on legislative or Constitutional authority ARE fine. I drafted a few myself way back. It’s the ” out of thin air” ones that are problematic. The differencs this time are more acute in my view than since 1860 so I don’t see this as a “routine election”

    376. Bitterlaw says:

      EO’s when based on legislative or Constitutional authority ARE fine as long as I agree with them.

      I fixed it.

      Name one EO by a Democrat that you ever agreed with.

    377. Tina says:

      What goes around comes around,

      But I believe Bush 41 also suspended payroll taxes. Seems like the president can suspend collection or delay it, like he did with the tax deadline,

      It will be a hoot for the jebots to sue in court though.

      They have no problem giving $ and jobs to illegals.

    378. Wes says:

      Careful, Bitter. Gordon will call himself your BETTOR–I assume meaning he’s your proxy gambler–and say you’re another MD planning to run away from the site if Trump wins.

      He really is full enough of himself to think his Trump obsession gives him license to dictate what others will do.

    379. Tina says:

      And when we fight the drats, we cannot play by country club rules.

      We always get burned by it.

      Trump is un predictable and since July, we appear to have big momentum and an economy doing better now than in 2012, despite the drats attempts to strangle it,

    380. Tina says:

      Chris Wallace fo Piglosi

      Elizabeth Harrington
      @LizRNC
      · 4m
      Ouch.

      “You’re known as a master negotiator but didn’t you mess this one up?”

    381. Tina says:

      Ari Fleischer
      @AriFleischer
      ·
      1h
      Unsubstantiated?? Have you seen him lately?

      “Trump and his allies have hammered their unsubstantiated claims that Biden has mentally lost a step and will be under the sway of a powerful VP…”

    382. Tina says:

      This is where the jebots are going…

      Andrew Surabian
      @Surabees
      ·
      21m
      Dems gave media their marching orders & predictably media is now calling attacks on Biden’s mental capabilities illegitimate (despite numerous journos having said the same for months about Biden off the record) & any legitimate criticism of his VP’s personality as sexist/racist.

    383. Robbie says:

      I’ve been following 2013 Nobel prize winner Michael Levitt (others here have as well) views on coronavirus. His predictions in February that corona reaches burnout around 20% and never experiences “exponential growth” appear to be pretty darn accurate.

      I have no idea what the “Gompertz Curve” is, but he and many others have used it to predict the course of outbreaks and it has done a very good job.

    384. Robbie says:

      It appears Florida has posted about 6,200 new cases today. That’s a nice drop from last Sunday’s total of 7,100 or so.

    385. The Godfather says:

      CBS YouGov Polls- Wisconsin and Pennsylvania

      President: general election
      Wis.
      Aug 4-7, 2020
      994 LV
      YouGov
      Biden
      48%
      Trump
      42%

      Pa.
      Aug 4-7, 2020
      1,211 LV
      YouGov
      Biden
      49%
      Trump
      43%

    386. Gordon Allen says:

      Wes must have had a rough,late night. Insecure people have those especially often. Wes,in your case that applies. Apparently you hate Trump and anyone who NOW supports him. That darn insecurity popping up again.
      For about the 10th time I supported Rubio,not just with words but real money,in 2016.I was crushed when Trumpian and crushed Rubio here in Florida. For one of the few times since 1968 I didn’t contribute to the Republican nominee( Trump). I voted against Clinton NOT for Trump.
      His performance in office has brought me over to being a supporter of his( and contributor). If that’s a ” Trump obsession” you must have feelings like that for millions of people, including some here.
      I did say 1 you’re full of yourself 2 like MD you will leave this site when you’re proven wrong 3 it’s foolish to take on someone who you don’t know who has better credentials ( like a lawyer should never ask a witness a question if he doesn’t know the answer) 4 and pick a fight with someone who is never intimidated by anyone and is relentless in the ring ( me). I strongly urge you to back off personal ,and to concentrate on the issue at hand at hand,the 2020 election

    387. MichiganGuy says:

      Wow, Gordon took little Wesley to the woodshed. LOL

    388. Wes says:

      Psychology isn’t your thing, Gordon. I wouldn’t play online psychiatrist were I you. I don’t hate Trump at all. I think he’s a self-absorbed egomaniac who could help his cause much more and be assured of reelection if he could get out of his own way. That’s been why I’ve concluded he’ll lose reelection. It has nothing to do with personal hatred of him at all.

      I didn’t vote for him in 2016. I’ve readily said that. I have also said I will vote for him this time given the alternative.

      You’re too stupid to understand any of what I just typed though.

      I had left-wing troll TrumpIsPeteWilson attacking me as a liar for giving Trump credit for his stewardship of the economy. Now I have my self-proclaimed BETTOR saying I hate Trump and anyone who supports him.

      I guess when I have two self-absorbed morons on opposite extremes of the political spectrum attacking me for apostasy from their respective credos–Trump hatred on his side and Trump worship on yours–I can honestly say I did something right.

    389. Robbie says:

      Arizona checked in with just 816 cases. It’s over there. Good for Ducey for not using a lockdown.

    390. Tina says:

      A lot of the deaths in Florida and Arizona, based on the twitter feeds I follow, suggest legacy deaths.

      They occurred weeks and mo this ago.

      Presstitutes just report the raw #s without an analysis of the actual date of death.

      With that said, a big difference on how Ducey ans De Santis handled the China virus vs Venthoarder and Ayatollah Phil.

    391. Tina says:

      Hold2
      @Hold2LLC
      ·
      39m
      AZ-FL-TX Deaths: 8/9/20

      A-F-T chart updated. Good trajectory. Peaking together within a tight window and turning down

      Current 7-Day Avg peaks (change from prior):

      Aggregate – 7/19 (+2) – 420 (+9)

      AZ – 7/10 (0) – 77 (+1)
      TX – 7/17 (0) – 204 (+4)
      FL – 7/21 (0) – 146 (+6)

    392. Phil says:

      The drastic drop in Arizona was absolutely predicted by IHME. The last three months their state by state projections which they adjust once a week have been pretty darned accurate. No fan of Gates here but I have to admit that this model has been spitting out accurate predictions.

      Nationally they forecast cases to continue to decline to less than half of what they are now by the second week in October before they forecast a gradual rise. Daily deaths to bottom out at around 370 per day by the same period before starting to rise again.

      Current election day forecast:

      Estimated daily infections 73K (currently 119K) with daily deaths at 429 (currently 1020).

    393. Bitterlaw says:

      I have said since 2004 that I will stay on this site until Dave shuts it down.

      If Wes thinks Trump will lose, he explains why he believes it. I do not always agree with Wes but I ALWAYS know the basis for his conclusions.

      I despise Trump as a person. That did not stop me from voting against Clinton in 2016 under his proxy. I will vote for him in 2020. After that, I feel incredible relief that I will never again have to push a button for Trump ever again.

      Unlike the doomers here, my life really never changes no matter who wins an election. I still have to take my insulin and go to work the next day. Of course, that usually means going to my kitchen table now but you get the point.

    394. Tina says:

      Ain’t that the truth.

      Francis Brennan
      @FrancisBrennan
      “China would prefer Joe Biden.” – Nancy Pelosi

    395. Bitterlaw says:

      I would not be shocked if China wants Biden to win. I would not be shocked if Russia wants Trump to win. Both can be true.

      I expect every nation has a preference for Biden of Trump.

    396. Bitterlaw says:

      I think the governments of these countries would prefer a Trump victory:

      Russia
      Israel
      Taiwan
      Japan
      S.Korea

      I am torn on the UK. Also, N. Korea may prefer Trump just because Biden is such a p*ssy that it might feel compelled to be more aggressive against him and unintentionally trigger a war.

    397. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

      Ah yes, Biden is the *expletive here* while Trump is somehow better when he found out Russia put bounties on American troops and did nothing.

      Oh wait, worse than nothing; he gave Russia what they wanted by pulling troops out of Germany.

      When you wake up in hell one day Bitter, remember why you ended up there.

    398. dblaikie says:

      I had given up hope that Joe would pick the wicked witch of the Great Lakes. But now she is on the short list. Keep hope alive! However I am in full support of all Joe’s shortlist — a proven liar, a ruthless bitch, and a power hungry wicked witch of the north (a scourge to Beauty Parlors and Churches).

    399. John says:

      402
      I may be mistaken but I think the Pa poll used a D+9.

    400. Chester says:

      We are fighting in a war weather you like it or not. Don’t care about “concerns” about EO and SS. When in a fight, we do what we need to win. The alternative is Marxist tyranny. Its that plane and simple.

    401. TrumpIsPeteWilson says:

      “I despise Hitler as a person. That did not stop me from voting against **** in 2016 under his proxy. I will vote for him in 2020. After that, I feel incredible relief that I will never again have to push a button for Hitler ever again.”

      “Unlike the doomers here, my life really never changes no matter who wins an election.”

      If Jeb or Hillary had won, there would’ve been hundreds of thousands less Coronavirus deaths. Period. But as long as nobody in your immediate family died, you’re good right?

      Remember, feeling disgusted about doing the wrong thing is still doing the wrong thing. But you’ll understand when you skip the whole purgatory thing and end up burning.

    402. Gordon Allen says:

      Your honor I move the remarks of Wes be expunged from the record for irrelevance.Sorry,but you didn’t read ( or comprehend) what I wrote. My specific objection to your earlier comment dealt with the charge of Trump obsession.
      I notice you’ve avoided answering that part,as it’s
      preposterous in my case. And necessarily in consequence it betrays your true feeling about all Trump supporters( and any who challenge you in any way relevant to that). We can support Trump based on his record ( surprisingly good from my original assessment) without being ” obsessed”. That was a naughty word my dear Wes.And without a shred of substance or fact to support it.

    403. Scooterboy says:

      My only fear about the debates is that the bar has been lowered so much for Creepy Joe, that if he even shows up, it will be celebrated as a victory.

    404. Scooterboy says:

      “Remember, feeling disgusted about doing the wrong thing is still doing the wrong thing. But you’ll understand when you skip the whole purgatory thing and end up burning.”

      Says the guy that supports a party that murders millions of innocent unborn children every year.

      Most likely be feeling a little fire yourself.

    405. Bitterlaw says:

      Trump – GFY. My niece suffered with depression for years. 3 months into the absurdly restrictive lockdown which disrupted her ability to live her life, she tied the belt from a bathrobe around her neck and hung herself in her bedroom closet. She was brain dead but they kept her around for a week so they could line up donors for her organs. I consider her a casualty of Governor Murphy’s policies. Don’t you dare tell me that I did not lose a family member to this virus and it’s consequences. This continued lockdown is killing people like my niece, m-fer, and it has to stop.

    406. Michelle Obama vs the DNC buffet table says:

      “If Jeb or Hillary had won, there would’ve been hundreds of thousands less Coronavirus deaths. Period.”

      Link?

    407. Tina says:

      China Biden just picked Aunt Jemima for the VP. Yikes

    408. Tina says:

      Yeah, Bl Russia wants trump,to win.

      The guy who took away their oil by building up our domestic energy.

      The guy who killed Russians in Syria.

    409. Bitterlaw says:

      I just checked 6 networks. No VP choice. Tina got me.

    410. Bitterlaw says:

      We disagree on Russia, Tina. It’s ok

    411. Tina says:

      Bl, 425 is not me.

      Its coreeeee.

    412. lisab says:

      If Jeb or Hillary had won, there would’ve been hundreds of thousands less Coronavirus deaths.
      ———————————————-

      there has been 162k deaths in the usa from covid, which includes deaths where the person just had covid but died in a car accident

      how could there be hundredS of thousands of less deaths?

      moreover, more than half of the deaths have been from states that are solidly blue, with blue governors in charge

    413. Wes says:

      I both read and understood that pablum you offered as analysis, Gordon.

      Here’s the thing:

      You’re a lying asswipe who styles himself as some kind of online psych major and thinks he can dictate what others will do.

      Reality is this:

      I’ve been consistent in saying Trump will lose because he’s been consistently doing everything he can do trample any positives his Administration can point to. Seeing Republicans lose 40 seats in a midterm with a good economy and no major national issues to trigger that loss should have caused Trump starting acting more like a President and less like a reality star.

      He didn’t, so here we are with his almost universally running behind an ailing man who may be suffering severe cognitive decline.

      If I’m wrong, I’m wrong. I was wrong about him in 2016 and wrong about other races before and since. Donald John Trump has exactly no bearing on what I do regarding this blog. He never has and never will.

      The only personal outcome for me is that I’ll have to buy Dblaikie a $150 bottle of scotch if Trump beats Biden. Oh, well.

      You’re too stupid to understand everyone who predicts Trump will lose isn’t an automatic vote for the opposition. You obviously can’t read very well either since while I’ve been vocal about my beliefs regarding Trump’s upcoming fate, I’ve also been far less bearish on the Cop’s ability to hold the Senate–a body every bit as important as the presidency for obvious reasons–than many others. If I had this ethereal hatred of Trump you claim I’d join the Lincoln Project in its attempt to have Schumer become Senate Majority Leader rather than boosting Republicans’ chances of holding the Senate.

      Your self-absorption and slobbering worship of Trump render you wholly incapable of comprehending basic logic or English and cause you to pompously declare what I intend to do or what I think when quite honestly you have no goddamn idea what you’re talking about.

      Now go back to your senseless blather. You’re not worth any further acknowledgement.

    414. Tgca says:

      Cuatro! Tres! Dos!

    415. Wes says:

      If Jeb or Hillary had won, there would’ve been hundreds of thousands less Coronavirus deaths. Period.

      Two can play at this alternate history game.

      If JEB! or Hillary had won, we would have had a nuclear holocaust on 1-21-17 that would have wiped humanity off the planet. Period.

      Prove me wrong.

    416. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes- But the nuclear holocaust would have wiped out the virus. Technically, there would be no COVID deaths. You can both be right.

    417. lisab says:

      trump has made the europeans invest more in their military

      and made the usa a major energy exporter

      russia at best is neutral about trump

      they probably don’t like how the dems have villianized them though

    418. Wes says:

      Oh, wait. Did I lampoon another poster’s sophomoric attack on Trump?

      Why, yes, yes, I did.

      It must have been my evil twin since veteran HHR psychiatrist Gordon Allen says I hate Trump and anyone who supports Trump.

    419. TgcaTheEXPERT says:

      419

      As an EXPERT, I rely on facts. I was not aware that hundreds of thousands had died of COVID-19 in the US to date. You must have some Inside information into gubbermint reporting not yet released, as I’ve not seen any reports that hundreds of thousands have died in the US.

      Now it is quite possible you are talking worldwide because clearly I expect had Hillary won, her policies would have extended to oversight into other countries and they would have giving up their sovereignty to her. *sarcasm intended*

    420. Tgca says:

      I agree that one can detest Trump and not detest Trump supporters. I know Bitter and Wes don’t like Trump but I know they both are extremely fond of me. In fact, Wes is just itching for an invitation to spend some time in the great Sewer State with me and Bitter. Wouldn’t that be fun!

      I can take Wes to Hoboken and show him where Frank Sinatra lived. Then take him to the bee-you-tee-ful capital Trenton and if he’s lucky, maybe get him a pic with the great Senator Menendez.

    421. Wes says:

      Tg, I have to admit I almost choked on the water I was drinking when I started laughing at your comment in 440.

      Well played!

    422. Bitterlaw says:

      Can we take Wes to see where Sinatra’s mom performed ABORTIONS?

    423. Tgca says:

      Well Wes. I have been to and through the beautiful state of NC a number of times. There are many things I like about the south. However, I think we have a better chance getting you to come and visit in the Sewer State then getting Bitter to go anywhere 100 miles outside his hometown.

      I think I just might force Bitter into a road trip to Geeenville SC one day so he can see people in the south actually have thriving bustling towns with Starbucks and they’re not all speaking with a drawl and have bad teeth,

    424. lisab says:

      I know Bitter and Wes don’t like Trump but I know they both are extremely fond of me.
      —————————————

      do you know any sweater/lingerie/florist shops?

    425. lisab says:

      what are the chances the networks refuse to call the election if trump is ahead on election night

      “until all votes are counted”

      throwing the country into chaos for weeks

      but

      if biden is ahead by one vote, they will call the election

    426. Tgca says:

      444

      Well, there’s Uncle Kyles Sweater Emporium in Charleston, SC. But I’m sure Bitter knows that place. You can order on line.

      https://thesweateremporium.com/

    427. Phil says:

      That’s a given, Lisa.

    428. Wes says:

      You forgot cigars and red wine, Lisa.

    429. lisab says:

      That’s a given, Lisa.
      ————————–

      yeah … of course bitter knows Uncle Kyles Sweater Emporium in Charleston, SC

    430. lisab says:

      You forgot cigars and red wine, Lisa.
      —————————————

      i know you will be shocked

      but i like merlot!

    431. Wes says:

      Merlot isn’t nearly as good as cabernet.

    432. PresidentPaul! says:

      I do think the college dorms and the k-12 schools will essentially be stationary cruise ships for coronavirus especially if they aren’t going to be wearing masks.

    433. Scooterboy says:

      “do you know any sweater/lingerie/florist shops?“

      I have been told by sources close to the investigation, that a special A-hole meeting has been called for this Tuesday. Supposedly Phil will be presenting his photographic evidence regarding Bitter’s wearing of thongs.

      It appears the A-hole’s case has been CRACKED !!!!

    434. lisab says:

      lots of guys wear thongs

      the chippendale dancers

      Channing Tatum

      john wayne (that’s why he walked funny)

    435. Scooterboy says:

      Joe Biden on Twitter-“ It’s been six years since Michael Brown’s life was taken in Ferguson — reigniting a movement. We must continue the work of tackling systemic racism and reforming policing.”

      Yeah, you know that poor kid who was gunned down while having his hands up and saying “don’t shoot”.

      Oh wait….

    436. Tgca says:

      Ok. These people are complete morons. Math is white supremacist patriarchy? Really?

      1st of all, math, like physics exists. It is not invented. The laws of physics and the equations of math that represent them are something to be discovered and not invented. Whether anyone discovers it or not, gravity still exists and can be represented by a mathematical relationship regardless of the letters, numbers, and symbols used to derive the representation.

      Are we to say the basic laws of gravity exist only because Newton derived them? They did not exist before Newton though the planets that operate on gravity have been around for billions of years? Really?

      Are we to say that relativity did not exist until Einstein published his 1st paper in 1905.

      Quantum physics did not exist before Bohrs and Planck even though the universe, estimated at 14 billion years old, is based upon it?

      Now there are some quantum mechanics theories on existence and observation but the mathematical expression of them are derived or discovered and not invented. It’s not like quantum theory would operates differently if a person of color instead of a Caucasian were to express them mathematically.

      This is dumbing down science and the fact that college professors argue this shows you how stoopid people can be at any level of education they attained.

      https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/08/09/brooklyn-college-education-prof-claims-math-is-white-supremacist-patriarchy/

    437. PresidentPaul! says:

      SJW’s don’t believe in debate though since by definition they are correct.

      That’s why I always said the whole college republican thing is a just a receive-bad-grades-club. There is no debate about these issues, and when there is debate, that means the professor should be fired or the student should be expelled.

      That’s why I note that DJT was a “democrat” not a democrat while he was doing business in NY.

    438. Tgca says:

      455

      NO LisaB! Very few men as a percentage of the male population wear thongs in replacement of underwear or swimwear, except maybe for gay men and French guys. Jock straps during sporting events do not serve the same purpose as thongs.

      I don’t hold it against Bitter if he enjoys wearing thongs but please don’t try to normalize men wearing thongs.

    439. jason says:

      hat’s why I note that DJT was a “democrat” not a democrat while he was doing business in NY.”

      He was a registered Democrat.

    440. jason says:

      Merlot isn’t nearly as good as cabernet”

      Wow, that is the understatement of the century.

      Merlot is glorified grape juice, I wouldn’t really qualify it as wine.

    441. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      419. “If Jeb or Hillary had won, there would’ve been hundreds of thousands less Coronavirus deaths”

      Hundreds of thousands less? Those missing California records must have a lot of new deaths — maybe California will catch up with New York, which had 10 times the deaths of California?

      Here is a list of the five states with the highest coronavirus death rates — all blue states: New Jersey, New York, Massachusetts, Connecticul, Rhode Lands.

      In saying this, I believe there are multiple factors involved, and you cannot blame the epidemic based on partisan politics. All sides were inititally at a loss as to what to do.

    442. jason says:

      Libertarian candidate for President bitten by a rabid bat.

      It’s tough out there on the trail.

    443. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca’s fixation on my fictitious alternate lifestyle, while flattering, but pointless. Does he really think I would consider anybody who grew up below Exit 163 on the Garden State Parkway?

    444. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “On Sunday, both Pelosi and Mnuchin appeared willing to consider a narrower deal that would extend some aid until the end of the year and then revisit the need for more federal assistance in January, after November’s election that could rebalance power in Washington.

      “Let’s pass legislation on things that we agree on,” Mnuchin told Fox News in an interview. “We don’t have to get everything done at once … What we should do is get things done for the American public now, come back for another bill afterwards.””

      Stated more plainly, we don’t want the blame for Americans not getting a second stimulus check because we wanted to give money to crony urban Democratic politicians and illegal aliens.

    445. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      If Pelosi and Schumer were smart, they would agree with Mnuchin on the second stimulus payment, then request the monthly payment to the unemployed be raised to $600 again. If Trump disagrees, then they can use that as an issue against Trump in the November election. The Democrats need to stop catering to the “woke” crowd, and get back to “bread and butter” issues.

    446. PresidentPaul! says:

      Maybe it’s political payback for #460

    447. Phil says:

      Occupy Wall Street announces on twitter DC “siege of the WH” begins Sept 17 and will last through the election.

      …….apparently twitter has no problem with radicals using their platform to organize riots. They are too busy censoring the Trump campaign.

      You can’t make this shut up.

    448. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      464. “Libertarian candidate for President bitten by a rabid bat.”

      He should have chose a better running mate.

    449. Tgca says:

      461

      Selective memory. Reagan was an FDR New Deal Democrat supporting lefty causes and candidates of the 30’s and 40’s until he came to his senses in the 60s. As a conservative, he ballooned spending and debt as a % of GDP greater than any POTUS in the last 40 years except Obama. He and Obama are in good company.

    450. PresidentPaul! says:

      The Chinese Burismo has a job with Hunter Biden’s name on it should the dems win,

    451. Tgca says:

      465. Bitter

      In no way am I attempting to demean your big city metrosexual life style. I get it! Its a Philly thing.

      If you enjoy sweaters, thongs, man bags, and going to flower shows, and cats over dogs, that does not mean you’re less of a real man…well, not in a number of blue states at least.

      I support whatever makes you happy.

      Heads up though, when Wes comes to visit us in the Sewer State, and we go hanging at the Jersey shore, skip the thong please…and no mankini either!

    452. Robbie says:

      I’m just catching up with the new case reports from the states. So far, it’s been a very positive day.

      – The outbreak in Arizona is over.
      – Florida continues to improve nicely.
      – The South in general is on the back half of their outbreak.

      The only blip that might be on the horizon is the backlog of cases from California.

      Thankfully, we’ve been improving week over week for about two weeks now.

    453. Bitterlaw says:

      471. Zzzzzzzzz. Compare 1940’s lefty causes and those of 2020. As for Reagan’s spending, while there was too much domestic spending, the military spending pushed the Soviet Union into the abyss. What did Obama’s overspending give us?

    454. Tgca says:

      475

      I am not debating the degree of liberalism or spending categories. I am debating the hypocrisy of complaining Trump was a registered DemonCrat when Reagan was one too. Trump has never been ideological and will deal with various political persuasions to get what he believes the best deal. He has done more for the GOP then any GOP POTUS since Reagan and that’s why he has anywhere from 90% to 95% GOP approval ratings at any given time, and he can also attract working class Dems too.

      He is by his actions, probably because of his business background, more Republican than many other GOP politicians. That does not mean everything he supports is GOP platform but overall, the GOP is very pleased with his policies, as evidenced by his support…and why would argue that if it were not for the 24/7 onslaught of the MSM against him, he would probably be at least 5% points higher in polls at any given time.

    455. lisab says:

      I don’t hold it against Bitter if he enjoys wearing thongs but please don’t try to normalize men wearing thongs.
      ————————————

      tgca,

      bitterlaw is french!