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    Biden Leads Trump by 2% in WI and PA

    Today we received two new polls from Trafalgar Group for the states of Wisconsin and Pennsylvania that show Joe Biden holding an identical 2% lead over Donald Trump in each state.

    Joe Biden (D) 48%
    Donald Trump (R-inc) 46%

    Joe Biden (D) 48%
    Donald Trump (R-inc) 46%

    Trafalgar has been giving Donald Trump his best numbers in these swing states and right now, they still show him behind. The WI poll was done October 14-16 and the PA poll was done October 13-15, both among likely voters in each state.

    Posted by Dave at 4:02 pm
    Filed under: General | Comments (294)

    294 Responses to “Biden Leads Trump by 2% in WI and PA”

    1. Flugempire@Yahoo.com says:

      Biden is slipping.

    2. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Trafalgar, which polls the newsrooms of OAN an the NY Post for their samples, can only get Rump to within 2%!

    3. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Love seeing all the meltdown on the right about how poorly North Carolina is going for Republicans. Biden/Cunningham/Cooper sweep.

    4. Steant1965 says:

      The polling in both these matters is closer to 1. Only rounding made it 2.

    5. Stonewall DW says:

      Actually, its a 1.1 gap in the PA poll and a 1.3 point gap in the WI poll.

    6. OHIO Joe says:

      And You Gov cannot get Colorado in double digits.

    7. Stonewall DW says:

      Barnes: Trump a 3-1 favorite to win the Electoral College.

    8. PhilS says:

      Fake polls and fake news really excite you, Pedophile G?

      ABC News opinion, idiot?

    9. MrVito says:

      tsar becket adams
      on the bright side for toobin, trying to pressure his co-worker’s daughter into aborting their lovechild will no longer be the first thing that people will remember about him.

    10. PresidentPaul! says:

      These debates are a set up. I don’t think it’s worth risking going at this point since they have partisans as the moderators.

    11. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Barnes reminding us that 2016 in AZ was affected by Johnson (former NM gov) and McMullin (Mormon to siphon off northern AZ votes).”

      Minor correct to Barnes. The Mormon population of Arizona is concentrated near Phoenix in the Mesa (13% LDS), Chandler and Gilbert areas. Also some small towns in east central Arizona like Pima and Snowflake.

      Northern Arizona is dominated by Indian reservations, the Grand Canyon, and towns like Flagstaff that have a low population of Mormons.

    12. Robbie says:

      PresidentPaul! says:
      October 19, 2020 at 4:39 pm
      These debates are a set up. I don’t think it’s worth risking going at this point since they have partisans as the moderators.

      – I agree. I doubt Trump can back out of it at this point, but Republicans should seriously consider boycotting the debates in 2024. They were clearly stacked against Trump this time.

    13. brent says:

      love these polls 1.1 and 1.3 add in secret voters for trump and he wins both states

    14. PhilS says:

      So, Trafalgar shows PA from +2.3 Biden (10/10-12) to +1.1 (10/13-15).

      WI went from Biden +2.8 (9/22-24) to +1.3 (10/14-16)

      Biden in a freefall.

    15. brent says:

      pedo joe is cratering everywhere including california

      knockout blow happens in the next debate

    16. PhilS says:

      Biden lost 1.2 points in PA over 1 day, and 1.5 in WI in 3 weeks.

    17. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Dang – a nearly 30% point swing!

      NEW via @StPetePolls: Biden leads Trump in Sarasota County, FL by more than 16 points!

      BIDEN: 56.3%
      TRUMP: 40.2%

    18. Stonewall DW says:

      Barnes percentage chance for Trump per state.

      Bet Trump if he shows up less than…

      60% AZ (worried about pot on ballot)
      95% TX
      80% FL
      50% NH
      50% MN
      50% MI
      50% WI
      50% PA
      80% OH
      70% IA
      10% NV – because they can count 14 days after election day. Barnes himself got TWO ballots from NV.

      ME_02 Trump wins easily
      NE_02 Barnes thinks Trump will win.

      If there is an upset on election night, CO and ME. Bet on these if there are long-shot numbers as a hedge.


      Buy Tillis if he’s under 60%
      Buy GA races if its under 70%
      Buy AK under 80%
      Buy MI under 40%
      Buy TX under 90%
      Buy AZ under 35%, but maybe Trump can drag her through.
      Buy CO under 35%
      Buy ME under 40%

    19. Scooterboy says:

      Cotto- “ The FL-Dems are doing so horrendously today that they are losing in-person early voting at EV polling stations established in urban centers. This is all kinds of sad.

    20. Annie says:

      22. Scooter – “This is all kinds of sad.”

      This is all kinds of pathetic.

    21. mnw says:

      FOX lead story headline (& DON’T bother trying to tell me that FOX is a shill for Trump!):

      “Dad Is Mum: Biden Maintains Silence on Hunter’s Emails, Alleged Sketchy Business Deals”

      This can NOT be what DEMs want to be reading 2 weeks out! Because… there are still a significant number of UND voters out there in every survey taken. Often a lot of them.

    22. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Trump needs to do a sneak attack in the next debate. Be very polite and let Biden talk — Biden’s poor mental state will stick out like a sore thumb.

    23. Tina says:

      Yikes, final pa registration #

      .Joseph Sheppard
      Maybe this has something to do with it

      (change from last week)
      GOP: 3,505,337 (+31,001)
      DEM: 4,207,190 (+21,140)

      Since 11/2016
      GOP: +205,155
      DEM: -10,266

      Looks like a net change of 225,000.

    24. NYCmike says:

      #25 – That is asking A L O T ! ! !

    25. Tina says:

      obtains photo showing an alleged Hunter Biden signature on paperwork for the computer repair shop


    26. Hugh says:

      Trolls trusting fake news media polls instead of actual results. Florida is so far gone. It will be a massive landslide. My daughter lives in Sarasota. She said Trump signs are starting to show up everywhere. Here went up today.

      Per our trolls the best swing state possibility for the Democrats is now North Carolina. This is almost over before it starts.

      Can I get a big chump chump!!

    27. Robbie says:

      SanDiegoCitizen says:
      October 19, 2020 at 5:07 pm
      Trump needs to do a sneak attack in the next debate. Be very polite and let Biden talk — Biden’s poor mental state will stick out like a sore thumb.

      – Absolutely. Biden can’t speak in complete sentences anymore. If Trump just gives him two minutes uninterrupted, Biden will far apart.

    28. Country Dick Montana says:

      “If Trump just gives him two minutes uninterrupted, Biden will far apart.”

      Give him more than 2 minutes. In the Colorado Senate debate, Gardner answered a question in one sentence then ceded the rest of his time to Hickenlooper to explain his ethics convictions. Hick couldn’t handle it.

      What do you think Biden would do if Trump said “I cede the rest of my time to the VP so that he can explain the findings on his son’s computer to the American people.” Biden might have a canned response ready, but Trump should do that a couple if times.

    29. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      31. That would be a great Trump strategy. Let Biden babble. He would be dumbfounded if he tried to answer a question at length.

    30. MrVito says:

      That’s easy. He would say it’s a smear from the Kremlin… let’s move on to real issues. The moderator will oblige.

    31. Tina says:

      Yes, but let’s have debate #3 on foreign policy.

      That is what was agreed to by all parties originally.

    32. Jeff G. says:

      32. Don’t count on it. The unbiased moderater will constantly cut in to help Biden craft and clarify his statement.

    33. phoenixrisen says:

      Trump definitely in the driver’s seat with PA looking at those numbers Tina. Same could be said for MI and WI. The Dems significantly have underperformed in EV and registration compared to 2016. The Trump campaign has to feel awfully good with a strong wind behind their back as Biden fades.

    34. dblaikie says:

      Not a good day for dems in Nevada. First of all they only added 1000 votes to the Clark County firewall making it 36000. They need to get to 70000. But another story is emerging the Rep. vote has not come in yet on in the rural counties. With the total of registered voters left the GOP has 64,353 more registered voters left. But here is the news, the Dem. vote may be already in with the mail-in ballots. But most of those 64300 are going to come in.

      Ralston, the informative lefty, expresses the fear best from his blog: “The Rs have not yet begun to turn out in the rurals. The deluge cometh.
      The question is if the urban mail will continue to flood in for the Dems to counteract it.”

    35. Steant1965 says:

      Pollsters should be embarrassed. Target Smart has Sarasota County results right now (only mail-in right now) as 49%D’s and 44%R’s. Only 7%I. So unless all I’s are going for Biden, St. Pete’s has some explaining to do. Enjoy your college polls troll boy.

    36. Scooterboy says:

      Cotto- “ Swinging back to Ocala, at the in-person early voting polling station which caters to its urban core, GOPers now lead Dems by 738-413. This, I repeat, is in a city, not in its suburban neighborhoods or in rural environs close to town.”

    37. dblaikie says:

      More fear from Mr. Ralston: “If you look at the current numbers there, the GOP rural tsunami is coming — they just don’t like mail.” Please remember the cow counties in the silver state are among the reddest counties in the country.

    38. Hugh says:

      Can we get another Chump Chump??

      Maybe this has something to do with it

      (change from last week)
      GOP: 3,505,337 (+31,001)
      DEM: 4,207,190 (+21,140)

      Since 11/2016
      GOP: +205,155
      DEM: -10,266

    39. PresidentPaul! says:

      No way a stimulus bill actually gets passed. Pelosi wanted to shut down the government in order to get rid of the farmaid because she felt that getting rid of it might hurt Trump’s reelection.

    40. Phil says:

      Forget Nevada.

      Democrats fixed that.

    41. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      “…but what about the St. Pete poll showing Biden +16 in Sarasota County,FL. Dang!”
      Chew on this dickh–d from the Tampa Bay Times:

      “Fifteen days out from Election Day in 2016, according to his data, there were about 36,000 more Republican super voters than Democratic super voters who had yet to cast ballots. This year, with 15 days to go, there are 471,000 more Republican high-propensity voters than Democrat super voters still to cast ballots.”

      This would more than offset the Dem. early advantage in the Sunshine State. FL is looking good. Dang!

    42. Robbie says:

      Grace Panetta
      This is not the kind of editor’s note you want to see in a story about yourself: “This piece has been updated with more detail about the call and the headline has been updated to reflect that Toobin was masturbating.”

      – LOL!

    43. Scooterboy says:

      Sounds like Barnes is right now predicting a Trump wiin. I think he said he gives it a 75% chance of happening right now.

    44. BillW says:

      You mean mastur-PLAN Robbie!

      The Dems have gotten so desperate that they are going to one stupid thing every day in an attempt to deflect attention from Biden’s freefall.

      Tomorrow, stay tune for Hillary’s striptease.

    45. Scooterboy says:

      Cotto-“ Lee County has been a truly staggering source of votes for the FL-GOP today. It is important to watch because it is the largest Florida county in which GOPers routinely win by huge margins. I honesty cannot think of anything else to say — Lee’s returns are that breathtaking.

    46. MrVito says:

      Joanna Rodriguez
      Ouch ? Gov. Roy Cooper caught on a hot mic today telling Joe Biden they’re going to try to drag the disgraced Cal Cunningham across the finish line following his affair with the wife of a combat veteran.

      “I know that’s frustrating, but we’ll get him across.” #NCsen #NCpol

    47. Tina says:

      How many dic*ks work for cn and n?

    48. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      46 – well great – that all but ensures a victory for Biden. Barnes is dumber than a bag of ding dongs.

    49. PhilS says:

      Pedo Joe has already given up, Pedo G.

      Crying in his basement.

    50. Gordon Allen says:

      Scooterboy. Lee County is where I live. Trump won big here in 2016. More so this year.

    51. Gil says:

      How many dic*ks work for cn and n? Tina, none they are all pussys at CNN.

    52. Tina says:

      Red Eagle Politics
      · 31m
      Due to the VBM News, Florida has flipped red in PredictIt’s map in the betting odds. Biden also falling in North Carolina, Arizona, and Pennsylvania.

    53. marc says:

      Scooterboy says:
      October 19, 2020 at 5:52 pm
      Cotto-“ Lee County has been a truly staggering source of votes for the FL-GOP today. It is important to watch because it is the largest Florida county in which GOPers routinely win by huge margins. I honesty cannot think of anything else to say — Lee’s returns are that breathtaking.

      Wait the media are telling us it’s over, Biden is 17 points up over Biden, South Carolina, Alaska and Kansas are now toss ups, the Democrats are head for a massive landslide

    54. Tina says:

      Blast from the past from Zoomer Toobin

      oklyn Dodger
      · Sep 27, 2018
      @CNN Jeffrey Toobin just put it this way: “If Kavanaugh was your prospective babysitter and 3 people told you he could be a sexual predator, would you hire him to watch your kids?”
      Answer me this…
      @co_rapunzel4 @ToDropADime2 @SkyVipre @LizWill99 @lstl5 @RTMcFadyen @mzgreen66

    55. Stonewall DW says:

      Baris and Barnes arn’t the ones who have to do any explaining. Barnes has been right for 20 years, and Baris since he started about ten years ago has been right every time.

      Its the Quinnipiacs and Silvers of the world that need to do the explaining, because they have been wrong over and over.

    56. marc says:

      Stonewall where are u seeing Barnes? I thought he retired

    57. marc says:

      Stonewall even Cook and Sabato have exposed themselves has liberal Democrat operative during these Trump, they always had bias but it’s even more out in the open now

    58. Scooterboy says:

      “ 46 – well great – that all but ensures a victory for Biden. Barnes is dumber than a bag of ding dongs.”

      This statement proves how idiotic this troll really is.

      You can disagree with Barnes, but anyone that would spend 5 minutes listening to Barnes talk about elections, would soon understand just how intelligent he really is. The man is a walking encyclopedia.

      It appears the Dems are scraping the bottom of the barrel to find trolls these days. We deserve much better.

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    60. Country Dick Montana says:

      “We deserve much better.”

      We are but a small community. They train and weed out the trolls here. It is also where the “Explorer Trolls” learn about the business without getting hurt.

    61. Scooterboy says:

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      BREAKING: Hunter Biden associate’s emails reveal details of deal with fmr Moscow mayors wife to launder funds into the US in avoidance of sanctions, Devon Archer claimed firm received $200M – @OANN

    62. Tina says:

      Trump War Room – Text TRUMP to 88022
      Joe Biden just tweeted that if he’s elected he “will work every day.”

      Biden has no public events today or the next three days.

    63. Rudy G says:

      Just letting you all know, one or two more days and I will have a bombshell for you all. Stay tuned!

    64. PhilS says:

      Just letting you all know, Pedophile Joe will be molesting Gator for three days. In the basement.

    65. MrVito says:

      My county went from 4.5R to 12.5R today. Heh.

    66. Pitchaboy says:

      Mr. Vito: How are Wi, MI and MN early vote going.

    67. Sean says:

      North Carolina just went pink on predictit

    68. mnw says:

      The regular, monthly UM “consumer confidence” report, released last week, showed GOP voters expect Trump to win by a massive margin; & DEMs expect Biden to win by a massive margin…

      HOWEVER, UM also reported that more self-identified independents expect Trump to win– “2-3%” more independents expect Trump to win than expect Biden to win.

      Now… what is my point? That the “10% Joe” story is unlikely to play well with independents & undecideds. The very voters who usually decide close elections.

    69. Robbie says:

      Greg Stohr
      BREAKING: Evenly divided Supreme Court backs Democrats, lets Pennsylvania ballots count if received up to three days after Election Day. Thomas, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh would have stayed PA Supreme Court decision, reinstated original Nov. 3 deadline. Roberts joins liberals.

      – I’ve always been willing to defend Roberts, but it’s getting tougher and tougher. More and more, he looks like Souter.

    70. OHIO Joe says:

      Pridicit just put NC back in the GOP column.

    71. PhilS says:

      There will be another lawsuit once ACB is seated.

    72. OHIO Joe says:

      AZ and even PA are heading to the GOP column fast. Lots of movement today.

    73. jaichind says:

      This PA law is such a joke. I think I can accept post marked by election day but to waive even that requirement is absurd. The law everywhere should really be: All VBM has to be post marked a week before election day to ensure that the ballot arrives by election day.

    74. NYCmike says:

      Roberts again?

      The Bush family just keeps on giving.

      How could the same people that chose Thomas and Alito pick Souter and Roberts?

      It’s almost as if they wanted to be able to say “See how balanced we are!”

    75. NYCmike says:


      -Especially at this time with the shutdowns still in effect in some places, I don’t see how they could make handshakes mandatory. This seems like a bad decision to me.

    76. Phil says:

      The Supreme Court case is terrible.

      Roberts is a disaster.

      Absolute disaster.

    77. Phil says:

      I can’t tell you how badly that decision hurts Trump in Pennsylvania.

      Roberts knows exactly what he is doing.


    78. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Roberts got something right for once.

    79. NYCmike says:


      I have to say – you being this down about it makes me think it won’t be that bad.

      Sorry, but the track record is a bit iffy this past year, starting with Harris…….even though she may sneak in the back door!

    80. Phil says:


      Agree 100%, Robbie.

      Roberts is absolutely Souter.

      I hate the Bushes.

    81. Livinthedream says:

      This is why the courts are so important. Trump tilted all of the federal Appellate Courts to the right which essentially knocked out all of the other state court challenges. Clearly, this is a setback but given the Hunter laptop problems and no ground game the Dems will still probably come up short.

    82. PhilS says:

      Not worried. This law will be thrown away as soon as ACB is seated. It will be part of other state laws thrown away in November.

    83. PhilS says:

      As I have maintained, ACB will be invalidating most mail-in ballots.

      Fun to watch.

    84. LivintheDream says:

      I pointed out more than a week ago that part of the Dem plan was to have Roberts as the swing vote. We saw that action today. What the Dems couldn’t predict or count on was the death of RBG and a new conservative justice added so as to make Roberts vote meaningless.

    85. PhilS says:

      Roberts was a good freind of Jeffrey Epstein.

    86. NYCmike says:

      Why hasn’t the ACB nomination been voted on yet? What are they waiting for?

      Is it scheduled?

    87. Phil says:

      As Barnes said today, accepting ballots three days after the election will enable Democrats to be able to manufacture exactly the number of votes they need to overtake Trump there. It creates that potential at least.

      The fact that the law was simply written out of thin air by a partisan Democratic State Supreme Court When the legislature refused to go along is outrageous.

    88. Gordon Allen says:

      At the risk of sounding paranoid, it’s hard not to wonder if the Democrat’s don’t have something on Roberts. On major.” political” decisions they seem to own him.there seems no jurisprudential consistency other than don’t cross the Democrat’s when significant ” political” decisions come before the Court.

    89. Phil says:

      They own him alright.

    90. PhilS says:

      Roberts adopted his kids illegally.

      Two Irish kids processed in Colombia (or some other SA nation). Against Ireland laws.

    91. Chicon says:

      Let’s all phreak out. Good Lord.

    92. jaichind says:

      Debate commission adopts rules to mute microphones of candidates to allow 2 minutes of uninterrupted speaking time per segment, AP reports.

    93. NYCmike says:


      -Good pick, Chicon!

      Let’s get the party started!

    94. PhilS says:

      “In 2000 Justice Roberts and his wife Jane adopted two children. Initially it was apparent that the adoptions were “from a Latin American country”, but over time it has become apparent that the adopted children were not Latin American, but were Irish. Why this matters will become evident.”

      “Irish law allows only people living in Ireland to adopt Irish children.”

    95. NYCmike says:

      If its known to you, PhilS, then what is the problem?

    96. PhilS says:

      99: Don’t understand what your question is.

    97. JeffP says:

      There has to be another legal angle to disqualify those ballots in PA…just wait for ACB…

    98. PhilS says:

      Various CCAs will have conflicting rulings on mail-in ballots.

      All of them will come to SC for final resolution, which will ultimately enforce Equal Protection of the 14th Amendment.

      Same reasoning as Bush v Gore in 2000.

    99. BillW says:

      No potential for calculated ballot stuffing in PA. The ballots can be received up to three days late but they still have to be postmarked by 8:00pm on election day.

      Climb off the ledge and quit whining.

    100. BillW says:

      …and Gator BJ before you even think about typing anything GFY.

    101. Annie says:

      90. “Traditionally” the vote out of committee for a Supreme Court justice nominee is one week after the end of the hearings. Then, the floor vote is about another week later, but can be scheduled sooner. Of course, in the past, a few new justices were confirmed after about a week.

    102. Chicon says:

      C’mon, Bill, let them get in a tizzy for awhile! It’s so enjoyable….

    103. John says:

      The censorship continues. Welcome to Pravda.

      I say no debate. Trump needs to pull out of this Stalinesques charades.

    104. Annie says:

      104. The problem is that if the postmarks are smeared or illegible, they have to be assumed to be legal and be counted. Big window for fraud…

    105. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Word to the wise, Biden’s win in PA will be so large, late arriving ballots won’t matter.

    106. PhilS says:

      Word to the wise, Pedophile Joe has already given up. Hiding in his basement humping Gator.

    107. Tina says:

      This decision was an application to deny the stay, not a writ.


    108. Annie says:

      Those Dems so brainwashed to believe “Russia, Russia, Russia” (said with a whiny Jan Brady voice) is the root of all information they don’t like or agree with still can’t explain Joe Biden bragging on video how he got the prosecutor investigating Burisma corruption fired…or they wouldn’t get the $1 billion. Or how millions of dollars were funneled into Hunter’s bank accounts. Or how old Joe paid for several huge mansions on a politician’s salary. Or why Obama’s State Department proclaimed the Bidens’ activities a security risk.

    109. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      October 19, 2020 at 7:44 pm
      I can’t tell you how badly that decision hurts Trump in Pennsylvania.

      Roberts knows exactly what he is doing.


      – Knowing Roberts, he probably thinks decisions like this decrease the chance of court packing. He’s too clever by half though.

    110. PhilS says:

      Dems don’t believe Russia Russia Russia. They just throw it out because the losers have nothing else. Their low-IQ followers need something to keep them occupied.

    111. Tgca says:

      Hello losahs!

      What up to my HHR peeps?

      Been busy with personal activities all day so no time to check in…

      …oh chit! Let me turn off my Zoom 1st.

      Whew! Close call there.


    112. Tina says:

      This can be re heard under the full 9.

      Presumably, granite (unless he himself) votes out on 10/22.

      Then they can vote on acb.

    113. Bitterlaw says:

      Hmmmmmmm. Some posters want Trump to tone it down and let Biden destroy himself in the next debate. Good to see people agreeing with me.

    114. Tina says:

      Unless he soils*

    115. JeffP says:

      104 are you sure about that? Not what I just read.

    116. John says:

      According to reports….Nevada Democrats are way, way, way, way behind with early voting as compared to 2016….even Democrat guru Jon Ralston is saying that the D’s have changed and mailed it in..
      Translation….Nevada looks to be pick up for Trump by about 4-8%.

    117. Tina says:

      The leftist debate commission did away with the foreign policy debate.

      The 2 minute apart rule if enforced equally by a non partisan moderator is fine.

      The leftist debate commission is too involved in helping China Biden.

    118. Tina says:

      The third debate has always been foreign policy.

      This was agreed to by all parties.

      They need to reformat the debate asap, or trump may cancel if.

    119. NYCmike says:

      “99: Don’t understand what your question is.”

      -If it’s public knowledge, how is it used to blackmail Roberts?

    120. MrVito says:

      Robert Barnes
      Just remember folks: the Federalist Society’s first big jurist favorite in a decade+ for the Supreme Court was #Roberts. Almost everyone on the right-leaning media, legal and political right celebrated Roberts, told you how great he would be, and slammed any of us who dissented.

    121. Tina says:

      Roberts is Souter 2.0

      Another failed person by the most incompetent. “ Republican” administration ever.

      Failed wars.

      Open borders.

      Bent over for China.

    122. Ridin' with Biden says:

      Goodness Gracious. You know you’re losing when you do everything you can to suppress the vote.

      Good win today for voters. Voters have until election day to submit their vote. What is wrong with that?

    123. NYCmike says:

      Trump could answer any question any way he wants, which means he could tout his accomplishments over and over, and then at the end just compare it to what Biden did for 47 years in D.C.

      Who cares if Biden rambles for 2 minutes?

    124. Annie says:

      120. That’s how the Senate does it “traditionally,” it is not a written law that it needs to be that way. For some reason, Graham and McConnell are trying to follow decorum as much as possible.

    125. PhilS says:

      “-If it’s public knowledge, how is it used to blackmail Roberts?”

      There’s no blackmail. It was used by Obama to threaten to investigate the adoption and deport the kids. That’s how he flipped John Roberts on the Obamacare decision.

    126. John says:

      George W. Bush…..
      Roberts as his SC nonimee
      Failed to find Osama Bin Laden
      Got America involved in a stupid war with Iraq

      Dumbass king of the universe.
      Thank God for Trump.

    127. Annie says:

      128. I’m afraid Trump will waste his two-minute segments defending against the blatant lies that Biden will spout-off (as he did before). Trump can refute the lies, but he has to be to the point and pivot to his message quickly.

    128. Gatorbillyjoel says:


      #MOpol news: According to a Republican aligned operative, the Presidents polling average in the state of Missouri has him up only 1-3 points. Governor Mike Parson is outrunning Trump by 3, only hold a 4-6 point lead on average.

    129. Annie says:

      Goodness Gracious. You know you’re losing when you do everything you can to defraud the vote.

    130. Tina says:

      Well now Cn and n is reporting that the muting of mics are during the initial statements only. This is stupid.

      · 28m
      JUST IN: The debate commission says it will mute Joe Biden’s and President Trump’s microphones to prevent interruptions while the other gives two-minute initial responses https://cnn.it/349xunY

    131. PhilS says:

      Pedophile gator. What the f%^k is a republican aligned operative>? Your flop-weat is not a good look.

      Is Pedo Joe done for tonight? Or are you two still on?

    132. Tina says:

      Folks, tossI got aside the word “installation” al ap, it gives you An idea that she is confirmed by Monday., if “Rs” don’t soil themselves.

      Quote Tweet

      The Associated Press
      · 30m
      The Senate is on track with a rare weekend session to confirm Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court by next Monday. Democrats decry the rush, but don’t have the votes to block the installation of President Trump’s pick before Election Day. http://apne.ws/isqqasF

    133. PhilS says:

      Pedophild Joe is losing Delaware, down by 2%. According to a Democrat aligned operative.

    134. Tgca says:

      128. NYC

      I agree. That was my take once I read the commission changed the debate from foreign policy. My guess is they don’t want Trump talking about success with Israel and ragging on Obama/Biden with Iran and other failures and especially Biden China connections.

      I think Trump should say thank you for your question and just talk about what he wants to talk about to the American people. If the moderator challenges him, restate his position on whatever he wants. What will the moderator do? Cut him off? Lecture him? That will hurt them and Biden not Trump.

      Trump could also use his time to ask Biden questions. Biden is not quick or sharp enough to pivot live. He will get annoyed. He will regurgitate his rehearsed lines.

    135. Phil says:

      Up 1 to 3 pts in Missouri.

      Pathetic try, basement boy.

      Trolling only works if you say something half ass believable.

      Send better trolls.

    136. Annie says:

      130. Also, the average household is estimated to lose $6,500 annually under Biden’s economic plan.

    137. PhilS says:

      Pedo Gator gets all his talking points from his pimp Hunter.

      You see the quality.

    138. eriepa says:

      The GOP is partly responsible for the VBM fiasco in PA. They control the house and the senate. They gave Wolf VBM in exchange for the elimination of straight party lever in the voter booth and VBM voting. They were warned at the time about all the potential problems but went along anyway.

      John Roberts is a dead loss.

    139. Ridin' with Biden says:

      It is so wonderful when voters actually get to, you know, vote. Wonderful day.

    140. eriepa says:

      Yea its real wonderful when they can vote up to 3 days after the election.

    141. Tgca says:

      136 Tina

      If I were Trump, I would bring a megaphone.

      Does CNN really think Americans want the media cutting off candidates mid-sentence? They may not like the arguing and bickering but having the media decides who speaks gets a little scary. Having the media “shush” the president of the US or former Vice President is unprecedented.

      Besides, they’re not 50 feet apart so if they’re speaking loudly, as is normal when on a stage, voices will still come through the mics I guess.

    142. PhilS says:

      Trump doesn’t need a mic to heckle Pedo Joe Biden.

    143. Annie says:

      138. “…a rare weekend session to confirm Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court by next Monday.”

      This is really good news – McConnell is not wasting time on decorum after all! The PA decision demonstrates why Barrett needs to be seated ASAP.

    144. JeffP says:

      Did you see some GOP senators bailed on Big Tech Testimony this week? I want names.

    145. Rudy G says:

      Big news coming soon – going to really rock the campaign. Total bombshell. Just give me a couple more days and you will see it all.

    146. PhilS says:

      You and Hunter sharing pics, Humpin’ Biden?

    147. PhilS says:

      What did you and pedo Joe do all day today, Humpin’ Biden? It must be exhausting for you.

    148. Tgca says:


      More importantly, why the f*ck are you still in NYC? Get out!

      I’m not sure I’ll ever go there again or Philly unless I see massive change that respect America, people of faith, and patriotic Americans.

      I could care less about either city at this point and I worked for years in NYC and grew up within 5 miles of it.

      In no way, shape or form will I give them my dollars. I mind as well go to Iran and support them with my dollars as Iran shows it cares as much about America as these radical leftist cities.

      F*ck NYC and Philly…and Chicago, San Francisco, LA and any other liberal bastion of wasteland trying to discriminate openly against conservatives and American patriots.

      Maybe someday I will share with you all how I really feel about these places run by radical lefties.

    149. JeffP says:

      The debate commission is over…done, the FBI is corrupt as hell, the media is DEM propaganda the Nazis would be proud of, Big Tech is something out of Orwell, the Government lifers don’t care about elections. One thing I learned during this pandemic is that when you mess with people’s freedoms and liberties you can understand why people will die for them. That is where this all ends at some point.

    150. Tgca says:


      Damn right Jeff!

      It specifically is very Big Brother or 1984 how big tech is trying to manipulate and determine what is shared and not.

      I don’t want people telling me what I can do and cannot do on Zoom!!!

    151. Country Dick Montana says:

      Agree on the FBI. It and the BATF should be zeroed out of the budget then start over.

    152. JeffP says:

      Regardless of the outcome of this election…the radical left will not relent…they have gained too much influence…Trump
      has exposed the depths of evil and corruption…but it is not about him…it is about the radical leftist communist agenda. A collusion of world views is happening right before our eyes.

    153. JeffP says:

      I heard from a reliable source Chris Wallace is a CIA opp. His actions prove it.

    154. NYCmike says:

      “More importantly, why the f*ck are you still in NYC? Get out!”

      -Yup, trying to get out. Lifes little circumstances are creating roadblocks at this time. we shall see.

    155. JeffP says:

      @LisaMarieBoothe “the Fox on Fox”

      “We are living in an increasingly Orwellian society. Our freedoms are absolutely at stake this election.”

    156. BillW says:

      JeffP and Annie,

      According to the standing rules of the Senate Judiciary Committee:

      “3. At the request of any member, or by action of the Chairman, a bill, matter, or nomination on the agenda of the Committee may be held over until the next meeting of the Committee or for one week, whichever occurs later.”

      This is not new – Kagan, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch – all were held over one week before the committee vote.

    157. Annie says:

      163. Yes, exactly for the vote out of the committee. It’s good, though, that McConnell evidently will hold the final floor vote quickly.

    158. MrVito says:

      Katie Pavlich Retweeted

      Ben Williamson
      GOP: Confirming ACB
      Dems: “We should be doing COVID relief”
      GOP: “Ok, we’ll do COVID relief too”
      Schumer: “I move to adjourn”

    159. Tgca says:

      161. NYC

      Go live with Bitter in the Philly suburbs where they claim all the stoopid suburban white woman who are soooo offended by Trump’s tweets are gonna vote for Biden because his tweets are nicer, at the expense of their family. Can’t wait until they put up a public housing next to their overpriced sprawling homes and these white suburban ladies start becoming Karens.

    160. Tgca says:

      Oh Gawd!

      Please tell me there’s just something inherently wrong about this guy…this is not an attractive look me thinks…

      …maybe I just need to be sent to a re-education camp!


    161. John says:

      So CNN’s Jeffrey Toobin was caught beating his meat while on zoom during a commercial break….this is so disgusting and despictable…

    162. Tina says:

      The Russians made robin beat his meat.


    163. Tgca says:

      THIS IS CNN… the jerk off channel.

    164. Tgca says:


      Sorry! I can’t take credit for that…saw that earlier on another site.

      I would love to hear James Earl Jones utter those words.

    165. buster says:

      We are C N Hand

    166. Rudy G says:

      More people know about Toobin chocking the chicken than Hunter’s “emails.” What am I doing wrong?

    167. MrVito says:

      Bright side? Better than being caught with two in the bush?

    168. Annie says:

      CNN does “Mean Streets”:
      “You know, ’cause that’s what you are, that’s what I think of you: a jerk-off…”

    169. Jeff Toobin says:

      Hi there, do you like how I stole the headlines today? Fap fap fap

    170. MrVito says:

      It was actually an apple.


      THIS IS CNN.

    171. Annie says:

      177. Hidin’ with Biden…People can enjoy two scandals at the same time.

    172. Bitterlaw says:

      Good news. The Dallas Cowboys are getting crushed at home.

    173. Bitterlaw says:

      Good news. The Dallas Cowboys are getting crushed at home. 28-3 so far.

    174. MrVito says:

      Good news. The Dallas Cowboys are getting crushed at home. 28-3 so far. That was not a banana. This is CNN.

    175. Jeff Toobin says:

      Don’t tell anyone but I was actually fapping with Hunter Biden on Zoom.

      fap fap fap

    176. Bitterlaw says:

      NYC – My Dad won’t last long. Ridgewood is not far from Brooklyn. You can be in Manhattan in 25 minutes if you drive early or late. Rush hour? That’s why they invented trains.

    177. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Oh beautiful…

      New Morning Consult poll has Joe Biden
      leading 52% to 43% (+9) national and leading in every major battleground state.

      Biden also leads with every age category, every income category and by +9 with Independents.

    178. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Life is good…

      National GE:
      Biden 51% (+11)
      Trump 40%


    179. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Is the lead 9 or 11? Can we all agree on 10?

    180. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Georgia on my mind…

      Trump 48% (+1)
      Biden 47%

      , LV, 10/17-19

    181. Tgca says:

      US Presidential Debate

      Mr. Vice President, as you know, it has been recently reported in the NY Post and picked up by some other conservative news outlets that a laptop belonging to your son Hunter has alleged incriminating evidence of pay for play schemes with China and Ukraine officials and possibly implicating you in some of these activities as well. Can you please comment on this and share with the American people whether there is any truth to these allegations in any degree?

      No! This is absolutely false. No truth whatsoever.

      Thank you Mr. Vice President for your candid response, as I am certain the American people appreciate your candor.

      WTF!!! Wait a …

      *psuhes mute button*

      Mr. President. In the interest of fairness, we would like to also give you the opportunity to set the record straight with the American people. Is it true or can you categorically deny that Melania was a hooker before arriving in the US many years ago?

      WHAT!!! I can’t believe …

      *pushes mute button*
      Mr. President please answer the question. Is it a simple yes or no?

      This is absolutely OUTRAGEOUS! 1st, let me say many smart and very fine people will tell you…

      *pushes mute button*
      Mr. President. Please answer the question. Both sides have agreed to the rules of this debate. We simply would like to know, yes or no. The American people would greatly benefit from a complete and candid response from you. We asked Mr. Biden a similar question so it’s only fair we ask you a similar one. Was Melania, at any time a hooker?

      *walks across stage to moderator, wraps his very big hands around her throat and thrashes her around like a rag doll*

      *Trump supporters loudly cheer and chant “smash her up.”*

      CNN cuts to a commercial…

      *Have you been feeling tired? Rundown? Listless? Try VitaMeataVegaMin.*

    182. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Montana flipping is looking better and better…

      Montana Senate
      Daines (R-inc) 49% (+2)
      Bullock (D) 47%

      RMG Research/Rasmussen

    183. Bitterlaw says:

      Since you won’t need the school system soon, you can also look in Ho-Ho-Kus. It’s just fun to say.

    184. mnw says:

      I’ve offered troll GBJ some easy money wagers for the charity of his choice, if he really believes the asinine sludge he posts about the election in my home state of MO:

      1) that Trump is only winning MO by 6 points;

      2) that Trump is only winning MO by 1-3 points.

      But oddly enough, the troll never responds! I’ve told him several times that I’ll wager Trump carries MO by 12+ points or more, & offered to bet any amount he wants, but… crickets.

    185. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “The Commission on Presidential Debates (CPD) ll mute President Trump and former Vice “President Joe Biden during the two-minute response times allotted to their opponents for commenting on topics during Thursday’s debate in Nashville.
      The commission said in a statement that it “had determined that it is appropriate to adopt measures intended to promote adherence to agreed-upon rules and inappropriate to make changes to those rules.””

      This is good news for the Republicans; just let Joe Biden talk.

    186. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      192. You failed to specify the right currency for where the troll is located.

    187. mnw says:

      Gatorbilly misspelled “choked” as “chocked” (sic) tonight, which makes me think GBJ is the sock name of one of the other illiterate trolls who infest HHR, probably ProudObamacon.

    188. buster says:

      The last time Jeffrey Toobin was this excited was when he was reading all the polling from 2016. Dreaming of a Hillary presidency and all the graft that would go with it.

    189. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The troll (who uses several names) does cut-and-paste from talking points sent him/her/it. People have to take sometimes disgusting jobs to get by during these troubled times.

      Troll claims he is visiting a family member in Florida. Some visit — he is spending his time on the computer posting propaganda points. Then he claims he has been threatened — it probably was by a family member who wanted to use the computer.

    190. MrVito says:

      194 Pretty sure that troll’s only currency is green and smokable.

    191. Tgca says:


      I recall as a yoot in my late teens and early 20s driving my beat up ghettomobile past Ho-Ho-Kus thinking, WTF? Who names a town that way?

      Can you imagine meeting some hot babe in a bar and trying to impress her with your Jersey charm and good looks and packing a stallion to boot and then having her ask where you’re from as you respond Ho-Ho-Kus?

      Totally leaves you with a wet noodle after she laughs in your face and walks away shaking her head.

    192. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      195. Agree. He has the certain level of dumbness possessed by the person using the ProudObamacon name.

    193. Baris says:

      I’m thinking 51-44 Trump in Arizona for my poll. You guys good with that?

    194. Tgca says:

      So it is now being widely reported that The New Yorker has RELIEVED Jeffrey Toobin of his duties.

      *TG rolls on floor laughing, kicking legs, eyes tearing, and gasping for air, aspirating Oh My Gawd!*

    195. MrVito says:

      Stephen L. Miller Retweeted

      Brent Scher
      A CNN commentator jerking off to an election simulation is basically regular programming

    196. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      ENOUGH IS ENOUGH – We do this for John Lewis’ legacy. We do this for our future. On Nov 3rd we #MarchToThePollsForJoe

      This is the inspiration this country needs right now.

    197. Bitterlaw says:

      It’s a wealthy town, Tgca. Not Ridgewood, of course, but respectable.

    198. Tgca says:

      I dedicate this song to Jeffrey Toobin

      Fast forward to 59 second mark

      *sigh* This brings back memories of my yoot!


    199. JeffP says:

      No NFL for me…I have hundreds of games from seventies and eighties I watch on DVD. Bradshaw Staubach Greise The Snake Joe Willie Namath, just got a 1975 Cowboys vs Redskins game. No sissy sh*t like today.

    200. Bitterlaw says:

      Watching the Cowboys lose 38-10 at home in front of Jerry Jones brought joy to my soul.

    201. MrVito says:

      Neat, Mr.Bitter… Did you hear that Jeffrey Toobin had a stroke while on a Zoom meeting.

    202. Tgca says:

      206. Ho-Ho-Kus is not Ridgewood? Puhleezzzzzzz.

      Who wants to be Ridgewood? Ridgewood is a racist town. Everyone in the Sewer State knows that. Less than 2% AA community there. They try and keep them out.

      Ridgewood Hates Black People! Even Kanye West would agree.

      By the way, where in Jersey did you grow up Bitter? Sorry! I forgot.

    203. Ridin' with Biden says:

      It appears that the first day of Florida early voting has resulted in record breaking participation. Democrats leading. Splendid!

    204. MrVito says:


      Is that Jeffrey Toobin’s nickname?

    205. John says:

      Person A to person B….”I heard that Jeffrey Toobin on CNN was an expert fisherman.”
      Person B to person A….”Really, the guy is a skillful angler?”
      Person A back to person B….”Nah, just a a master baiter”.

    206. Elbertisopy says:

      very big thanks to you for your so interesting post

    207. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Alright, alright, alright

      Biden 47 – Trump 46
      Cornyn 44 – Hegar 41

    208. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Great news from the Sunshine State!

      Day one of Florida in person voting shows no sign of a surge from Republicans. Republican prospects in the state on life support. GOP party officials reportedly dejected.

    209. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Chomp chomp

    210. Phil says:

      I live in Texas. Ain’t happening, basement boy.

      Early voting in Florida?

      You are going to be disappointed. Republicans will swamp Democrats on Election Day.

    211. Phil says:


      Nice hot mike you got there, Troy.

      Two total dicks.

    212. lisab says:

      actually florida voting for the gop has been huge

      fl is probably gone for biden

      he needs nc

    213. Phil says:

      Early vote numbers only say WHEN people are voting. Early voting simply cannibalizes your Election Day vote. It doesn’t net your side any total votes.

      People need to quit reading tea leaves on early voting numbers. Especially this year.

    214. WalterBam says:

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    215. lisab says:

      Early vote numbers only say WHEN people are voting.

      the early voting numbers for florida are showing increased voting in gop areas

      now sure … republicans in florida could be voting for biden

      but i would not bet on that.

      biden has a better chance at nc than fl based on the vbm

    216. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      New Florida Poll:

      Biden 48% (-3)
      Trump 47% (+2)

      University of North Florida (10/12-16)

      A 5 point shift towards Trump in 2 weeks

      (H/T: predictit)

    217. OHIO Joe says:

      Looks like CNN’s stunt against James backfired. Even Barris was fooled.

    218. Shheple,Jr. says:

      As usual, dickh–d Gator is wrong. Here is the go-to site for early voting in FL. The site updates every hour.
      Counter to Gator’s claim, the GOP had a nice first day in In-Person Early Voting. Look at that sea of red on the map!


    219. Wes says:

      Well, Roy Cooper probably didn’t help “Family Values” Cal with this statement:


    220. Phil says:

      Depends on how many bogus mail in votes Democrats can stuff the ballot box with, Wes.

    221. LivintheDream says:

      Two weeks out from the election, it looks pretty clear that Trump will carry all of the solid Red states plus Arizona, Iowa, NC and Florida. This is so much better than 2016 when Ohio was being battled for and Florida was a real question mark even on election day. The battle is now joined on several states, each of which Biden has to win: MN, MI, PENN, WI, NH, and NV. can Biden really win all of these without a campaign and GOTV effort whereas Trump and the GOP is barnstorming the country not only to deliver a presidential win but to bring with him Senators and House members.

    222. Country Dick Montana says:

      “As usual, dickh–d Gator is wrong”

      Those guys (or likely one guy) are here to just take up space and get a reaction in order to deflect the conversation. They are also on a schedule which says they are either being paid, or they have no life to speak of.

      They don’t believe what the post anymore and are just going through the motions. They are no better than monkeys at the zoo. Kind of fun to watch for a while until they start flinging poo. Then you move on to something more interesting.

      Ignore and scroll on by.

    223. Phil says:

      Nevada was winnable before the Democratic Governor and legislature put their thumb on the scale. Hundreds of thousands of ballots mailed out to God knows who. Counting ballots received all the way until 14 days after the election. We could lead on election night but at that point Democrats will know exactly how many votes they need to manufacture. There was a reason Democrats changed the election law at the last minute.

    224. Phil says:

      I might add that Nevada only matters if you were to win it in combination with NH. Nevada by itself doesn’t mean much.

    225. Phil says:

      I still think we lead on election nigh in Pennsylvania. Tough being ahead by enough to cushion against the onslaught of mail in ballots received that Roberts says must now be accepted three days after the election. Democrats will know exactly how many votes they will need.

      Thanks again, Roberts.

    226. Country Dick Montana says:

      If Trump wins and the GOP retains the Senate, he should immediately nominate ACB for Chief Justice. As long as Roberts is still on the SCOTUS, I think it would be legal. Perhaps he would be embarassed enough to quit at that point.

    227. Phil says:

      We need one of the following:



      Nevada plus NH.

      It’s all pretty clear and Pennsylvania took a hit yesterday thanks to Roberts.

    228. Phil says:

      Maybe Wisconsin is now our best bet if it moves late like it did in 2016.

    229. Chicon says:

      Still going with the Pennsylvania Phreakout?

      Deep breaths….

    230. PhilS says:

      I don’t get where these memes of “state moves late” comes from.

      It seems like a lazy way to explain voting.

      How does anyone figure out what moves late? Based on unscientific, non-random, mis-sampled polling?

      Example – idiots say MI (or other MW battleground state) moved late in 2016. How does anyone know? It’s more likely that the voters decided, as soon as they started paying attention, who they were voting for, and the polling orgs don’t have good enough methodology to capture accurate information.

      Remember, Michael Moore, based on his observation in MI, predicted, in Aug, that Trump was going win. The polls just didn’t catch it.

    231. Phil says:

      Not only do votes that come in three days after the election now have to be counted in Pa, those ballots don’t even have to be postmarked by Election Day. They can be cast AFTER Election Day and as long as they arrive 72 hours after Election Day they must be accepted regardless of postmark. So sayeth Justice Roberts.

      That’s outrageous.

      It’s going to be ugly, folks.

      Everyone should be aware of the potential for this to tear the country apart.

    232. PhilS says:

      “STREISAND EFFECT: MIT: Twitter Ban ‘Nearly Doubled’ The Visibility Of Hunter Biden Laptop Story.”

      Who could have predicted it?

    233. Phil says:



    234. PhilS says:

      Taske a chill pill.

      This is not the last word on mail-in voting.

    235. Phil says:

      Actually, I believe the Supreme Court IS the last word.

    236. Sy says:

      “Actually, I believe the Supreme Court IS the last word.”

      When it set a precedence, it’s the last word. A 4-4 tied does not set a precedence. It just let the lower court rule stands until another challenge.

    237. Chicon says:

      Sy, it’s all over. We’re doomed.

    238. MichiganGuy says:

      * BOOM *
      This is what they call a mic drop!

    239. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      How about on the day after the election, SCOTUS, now with Barrett, vote to segregate the PA post-election mail-in ballots received and decide to hear the case and decide within a few days?!

    240. Scooterboy says:

      Some good advice for our resident trolls.

      Robert Cahaly on Georgia: “If you think Georgia will vote for Biden, you need to check yourself into rehab.”

    241. Sy says:

      Latest FL Early Voting Tally. This includes the Miami-Dade dump from last night:

      144,130 R
      140,612 D

      This is looking great for the Republicans and its not including a lot of red counties that have not started voting yet.

    242. Phil says:

      Yeah, some of these polls out of Georgia are ridiculous. The Quinnnipiac Poll was beyond laughable….of course, the Quinn polls in every state are comedy. gold.

    243. Stonewall DW says:

      Back in June, Hendrix College in Arkansas had the race in that state:

      Trump 47
      Biden 45

      Now they just released an October poll:

      Trump 58
      Biden 34

      Of course 4 years ago Trump won the state 61/34.

      Strange huh? So here are the options to explain:

      1) There was a radical change in Arkansas electorate, where even though Trump gave them everything they voted for in 2016, they suddenly hated him back in June, but now have gone back to loving him again.

      2) Hendrix College was playing games with their June poll to help Biden look good, hoping to contribute to a narrative.

      I will leave it to you to decide which was going on.

    244. Phil says:

      Biden won’t win Florida. He won’t be able to steal it either. Florida election law is solid. No late mail in ballots plus The governor removed the corrupt Democratic County clerk in Broward who tried to steal the election for Nelson in 2018.

    245. MrVito says:

      252 It should be pretty much a total tie once Lee and Orange are added.

    246. George says:

      Biden 48.1
      Trump 45.8

    247. MrViti says:

      Sumter (the Villages) and Liberty (panhandle) begin early voting today.

    248. Tina says:

      There are still 15 (or now maybe 13?’ Florida counties that have not done in person?

    249. Stonewall DW says:

      Juan Williams was unknowingly helping Trump in his comments on Fox News yesterday…when asked about the Trafalgar Group, and the shocking possibility that they could be right and all the other pollsters wrong, Williams condescendingly piled on the surety that there are just so many polls that all say Biden will win, how could just one pollster see what ALL the others are missing? How could ALL the other pollster not be trying hard enough to get it right? On and on he went trying to give comfort to Dems that this is over.

      All he does is put to sleep the very voters he should try to awaken. The Trump supporters are going to come out in force. If Williams really wanted Biden to win, he should have said, this race is close, other pollsters other than Trafalgar have a path for Trump to 270, and if Democrats don’t get out to vote this is going to be a repeat of 2016.

      Then again, maybe Williams knows the fix is in with all the planned theft. But still.

    250. Tina says:

      How is.the ev for nc?

      I saw Cotto freak out the other day, but nothing new yesterday?

    251. MrVito says:

      Here, Tina… if you want specifics

      MrVito says:
      October 17, 2020 at 11:24 am
      Most FL counties begin In person voting Monday

      Tuesday: Sumter, Liberty

      Wednesday: Gilchrist, Dixie

      Thursday: Baker, Columbia, Hardee, Highlands

      Saturday: Bay, Glades, Gulf, Hamilton, Suwannee, Union, Walton

      So, all the late starters are heavy Trump in the north, panhandle, or south central

    252. Tina says:


      Another lid


      Another lid

    253. Tina says:

      Thanks, Vito.

    254. Marv says:

      Morning folks.

      RAS Twitter says Trump up.

    255. Tina says:

      Ras Twitter

      Trumps ja is up.

    256. Tina says:

      Wow Marv, psychic.


    257. LivintheDream says:

      It would be interesting to see where the IBD poll was 14 days before the 2016 election.

    258. jaichind says:

      268. In Mid to late Oct 2016 IBD 4 way was Clinton +1, Clinton +4, and then Clinton +1

    259. Gordon Allen says:

      Time for Fox to come out with a Biden plus 7 rescue poll? They’re probably massaging the number to show some Trump gain( for credibility) but still show a comfortable. Biden lead 7, possibly 6 fits the bill

    260. Marv says:

      Yep, nice move for President Trump in RAS.



    261. Hugh says:

      255. So true. Can’t believe Scott let that corrupt hack snipes keep that position after 2016. DeSantis is the man. The corruption in Broward County was always huge and playing for anyone to see. I have witnessed some of it myself. There will be no fraud of any significance in Florida.

    262. Todd McCain says:

      Great numbers this morning.

    263. Stonewall DW says:

      Look, you have now. Twenty early voting centers. They’re open now all across the city. Open seven days a week on election day. Its a one stop shop.”

    264. Tina says:


      Matthew Tyrmand
      · 6h

      “We get the Biden lift and stay out of Heinz panties.”
      -Devon Archer (the ringleader, if you can believe it)

      Can’t make this stuff up…..#FratBoyBanking #SkullNBones #NoWonderThePopulistsAreWinning

    265. Gordon Allen says:

      Is Rasmussen sti D+4?

    266. Phil says:

      Nate Silver has Biden at 412 electoral votes.

      You can’t make this sh*t up.

    267. Tina says:

      The Biden lift better not be another story a la zoomer Toobin.

    268. jaichind says:

      277. Is that true? 538 medium scenario has Trump winning GA and OH (barely) and losing NC ME-2 FL NE-2 PA etc etc

    269. Greymarch says:

      Emails from the #BidenCrimeFamily are starting to kick-in. Slowly disseminating to the electorate, causing Biden’s numbers to drop.

    270. dblaikie says:

      277 Phil there are many things I care about in this world. But I have to share with that Nate Silver is one thing or blog or whatever it is that I could care less about. The only thing that I could care about less is a PPP or CNN poll.

    271. Phil says:

      Nate’s map shows Ohio, Georgia, and Iowa going to Biden.

      Silver knows better but can’t help himself.

    272. Tina says:

      Trump has reframed the issues

      Focus on the economy and China Biden corruption. Economy is the number one issue.

      I also think he has negated the China virus issue (#3). Basically, Biden was late on the calls to do the travel bans; Focused on regeneron and vaccines (Biden opposes); China is for locking down again; and when pressed, China has no details.

    273. Phil says:

      dblaikie, you can add Quinnipiac polls to the list.

      I glance at Silver occasionally because he amuses me.

    274. dblaikie says:

      Phil for that matter you can put all college polls on the list of things I could care less about. Fox polls are close to being on that list and the only reason they are not is that I still get mad when I see them.

    275. Tina says:

      Tim Pool
      this russian disinfo campaign is really impressive

      So the russian agent hacks photos of Hunter Biden doing crack, goes to Delaware to drop off a fake laptop, signs a receipt, forges a federal grand jury subpoena, then waits for the store owner to send it to Giuliani


    276. mnw says:

      254 Stonewall

      RE: AR

      Remember, though… our trolls tell us that even though Trump may be clobbering Biden by 25 points in AR, MO is still a tossup, because Trump’s lead THERE is down to “1 or 2 points”!

      See, AR is just like Mississippi, whereas MO is just like Illinois! Or something. /s

    277. Phil says:

      Boy, I had forgotten about the Fox polls.

    278. MrVito says:

      Sumter EV this morning so far… 62-24% R

    279. MrVito says:

      A reminder about some of the little Rural counties….

      Example: Liberty County, FL

      55% D by registration
      76% Trump by 2016 vote

      I am an example of this… got fed up with Gainesville and moved rural. We made the suburbs two votes bluer and the exurbs two votes redder.

    280. Stonewall DW says:

      ARIZONA – Big Data Poll

      Trump 49
      Biden 44

      Oct 14-19

    281. MrVito says:

      New thread DW

    282. MichiganGuy says:

      New Mexico In-Person Votes by Party Registration
      Party Count Percent
      Republicans 60,325 47.7
      Democrats 51,197 40.4
      No Party Affil 13,747 10.9
      Minor 723 0.6

      TOTAL 126,584 100.0