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    Ossoff/Perdue Tied, Warnock Leads By 1% in GA

    We finally get another poll for the US Senate races in Georgia that shows both races basically tied. This latest poll comes from Insider Advantage.

    US SENATE – GEORGIA – RUNOFF (IA)
    Jon Ossoff (D) 49%
    David Perdue (R-inc) 49%

    US SENATE – GEORGIA – SPECIAL RUNOFF (IA)
    Raphael Warnock (D) 495
    Kelly Loeffler (R-inc) 48%

    In the General Election, Insider Advantage was a little Republican-leaning in their final poll of the Presidential race claiming Donald Trump was going to win Georgia by 2%. Take that into consideration when evaluating this poll. This new poll was done November 16th among 800 likely voters.

    Posted by Dave at 7:19 am
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    1,138 Responses to “Ossoff/Perdue Tied, Warnock Leads By 1% in GA”

    1. MichiganGuy says:

      First!

    2. MichiganGuy says:

      Dave Wissing, we take into consideration your never Trumper stance when you post polls.

    3. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Strange crosstab for Georgia polls. For both Senate races, it has Republicans crossing to the Democrats by about 10% and fewer than 5% of Democrats crossing to the GOP candidates.Also, both Democrats carry Indies and Others by about 40%.

      Can someone explain this? Thanks.

    4. jason says:

      Why do I say Robbie has the moral compass of a floating turd?

      In 2016, Trump won fair and square.

      The Dems and the MSM never accepted it and spent 4 years try to delegitimize him and engineering various coups to overthrown him.

      Robbie supported EVERY one of these efforts.

      Now in 2020 the Dems are trying to steal the election and Robbie says nah, you can have tens of millions of uncontrolled VBM ballots but you shouldn’t question wins in 3 states that would decide the election by a combined total of 42k votes.

      NOW we should consider Biden legitimate and move on.

    5. jason says:

      Hopefully these polls will be taken as a warning to the GOP leadership.

      Roll over and die at your own peril.

    6. jason says:

      “Democratic Senate candidate Raphael Warnock said in a 2011 sermon that Americans cannot serve God while also serving in the U.S. military.”

      If this guy wins, it will be interesting to see the people who deny the US has shifted ideologically continue to do so.

    7. jason says:

      As I said, I listened to the Insider Advantage guy on Hannity radio last night while I was driving.

      He seemed somewhat biased, said Loeffler was wrong to attack Warnock on his previous statements, that the Dems were better organized, that Rs were the underdogs. `He claims GA is very different now than when Chambliss won and you can’t rely on the fact Rs have always won the runoffs. He didn’t seem “R leaning” to me.

      Hannity, who was more interested in attacking the GA SOS than in the poll results, went along with it.

    8. jason says:

      Of course, we can always review some of the 2020 election polling.

      “Last week PPP took a look at the Presidential race in Texas, and this week we checked in on the Senate race. MJ Hegar trails John Cornyn just 49-46, making up for the Republican lean of the state thanks to a 55-34 advantage with independent voters.

      There’s evidence within the numbers that if Hegar had parity with Cornyn on name recognition she would have a very good chance at winning the race. Among voters who know enough about Hegar to have an opinion about her, she leads Cornyn 51-48.

      This is the third Cornyn-Hegar poll PPP has released this year and they’ve gone from a 7 point lead for Cornyn to a 4 point lead to now just a 3 point lead. That’s a similar trajectory to the one the 2018 Senate race followed and Hegar has already reached the point where Beto O’Rourke finished last time. With two and a half weeks to go she has a chance to pull off the upset as more voters tune into the race and become familiar with her.”

      Cornyn won by 10.

    9. Gordon Allen says:

      I can see why many Republicans in Georgia are disgusted with their GOP Governor and Secretary of State. As well as the Senators,their future is bleak if they don’t pull up their socks… like now.

    10. Wes says:

      Matt Towery is a staunch Trump supporter with a history of releasing polls friendly to the narrative of pols he likes. (See Newt Gingrich in 2012.)

      Republicans should take nothing for granted, but I wouldn’t base an electoral strategy on what Towery says.

    11. jason says:

      “PPP’s new Montana poll finds the race for Senate as tight as it can be. Steve Bullock and Steve Daines are each at 48%. Beyond that, they have nearly identical approval ratings for their work in their current offices. Bullock has a net +4 rating as Governor, with 48% approving and 44% disapproving of the job he’s doing. Daines has a net +4 rating as Senator, with 47% approving and 43% disapproving of the job he’s doing.

      Bullock is keeping the race tied despite the overall Republican lean of the state by winning independent voters 49-44 and also by winning 90% of Democrats, compared to Daines’ 85% of Republicans. Bullock is getting 11% crossover support from GOP voters.

      Although Donald Trump is likely to win Montana again the 6 point lead he holds at 52-46 represents a considerable decline in his advantage in the state from 2016 when he won it by 20 points.”

      Daines won by 10. Trump won by 17.

    12. Wes says:

      Both Ossoff and Warnock polled better than their vote totals. That’s something to keep in mind.

    13. jason says:

      October 29, 2020

      2020 Presidential Ballot in New Hampshire

      The following results are based on 600 completed interviews among a statewide random sample of likely voters in New Hampshire (199 Republicans, 221 Democrats, and 180 undeclared voters). The interviews were conducted October 26 through 28, 2020.

      Biden 58 Trump 39″

      Biden won by 7.

    14. jason says:

      Trump probably DID win GA by at least 2, so IA could have been right.

    15. jason says:

      I found this interesting. What would the MSM (and Robbie) be saying if the situation were reversed, and it was Biden that was down a few thousand votes in several states.

      “But to further illustrate the media’s power, just image if the party roles were reversed, an apparent Republican challenger unexpectedly defeating the Democrat incumbent President amidst charges of fraud, etc. How would the media be covering this story?

      Well first, we’d see many demonstrations (and “mostly peaceful” riots) break out, which the media would report as outraged citizens protesting. We’d have frequent interviews of Democrat leaders and “citizens in the streets” complaining of fraud and having their votes negated by Republican fraud with the approbation of the media interviewers.

      Interspersed we’d have multiple interviews of statisticians and professors of statistic describing their findings of voting patterns and numbers that they would explain were statistically highly improbable to impossible. We’d have other “experts” explaining all the deviations from accepted election practices, including the stopping of counts and driving out observers, interference with observations, and many reports of clearly illegal activities. We’d have almost unceasing commentators and news anchors echoing and reinforceing these claims.

      We’d have reporters constantly badgering election officials about the election irregularities and asking why they were refusing audits and recounts. We’d have constantly badgering of Republican elected officials and Party officers as to whether the support and defend these irregularities. And international leaders would refrain from congratulations to the Republican candidate.

      And we can imagine the social media tsunami of protest and invective again all Republicans who would defend the election outcome, soon joined in with an outright declaration by the companies that they were declaring the election fraudulent and they were flagging or even banning statements of support and people who were supporting the election outcome.

      We’d be hearing this over and over, almost 24 hours a day, pushing the Republicans into an increasingly uphill battle to prove the validity of the election as they move more and more weaklings into accepting and promoting the Democrat claims.

      And as a result we’d have established in the public square a narrative of an election with suspect results due to likely fraud and that the outcome would remain in doubt until the necessary investigations were done and votes recounted to prove what “everybody knows to be the case”: that the claims of a Republican Presidential victory were illegitimate – and would persist in intensifying the pressures until the election results were annulled and the Democrat “rightfully” be declared the winner of a second term of the Presidential race along with preservation of a Democratic Senate and the flipping of the House to Democratic control.

      These contrasting situations – this is the power of the media.”

    16. jason says:

      Here are what I see as pros and cons for GA.

      Pros for Rs

      1. They got more votes in the first election even with the massive turnout and probably fraud in VBM and harvested ballots.

      2. Warnock is a radical who is way to the left of the GA electorate, even if it has changed ideologically.

      3. Ossof is a lightweight.

      4. Trump is not on the ballot. The Dems can’t run against him.

      Cons

      1. The Dems will use VBM again to massively increase turnout. They will harvest ballots. They will register more voters.

      2. Trump is not on the ballot. Might depress GOP turnout among the most loyal supporters.

      3. The Dems will have massive funding from outside the state to buy the election.

    17. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      jason
      I cannot wait until you get to the 2020 Quinnipiac and NBC/Marist A State Polls. Of couse, I believe both are considered A pollsters by nate Silver.

    18. jason says:

      Might make a good ad for GA.

      “American gun owners could face tens of billions of dollars in new taxes to keep the guns they already own under Democrat Joe Biden’s gun ban and tax plan.

      At least 20 million rifles and 150 million ammunition magazines would be caught up in the sales ban and registration scheme Biden touted on the campaign trail, according to a National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) report. The new taxes would cost Americans more than $34 billion, according to a Washington Free Beacon analysis.”

    19. jason says:

      Babylon Bee

      “It seems that people who screamed about Russia for 4 years now have a 100% chance of encouraging everyone to accept the 2020 election results without question,” said study head Dr. Rupert Manning. “It’s basically all the way across the board: if you believed that Vladimir Putin somehow hacked voting machines, purchased a bunch of memes, and raised an army of millions of Russian bots to disrupt the election and get Donald Trump elected, you certainly now believe that our elections are completely safe and secure.”

    20. Wes says:

      Democrats are openly advocating having liberals move to GA for the sole purpose of registering to vote for the runoff and then leaving the state.

      I have a few thoughts about that:

      1) Calling for voter astroturfing doesn’t strike me as an indication of the better organization Towery claims.

      2) This is a violation of Georgia law.

      3) Native Georgians may take umbrage at this and turn out to support Perdue and Loeffler rather than let out-of-state liberals dictate in-state politics.

    21. jason says:

      So that thing that wasn’t supposed to happen even once according to the left has now happened three times.

      “Now, a third county has found votes that failed to be tabulated previously in the election. Once again, most of them are votes for President Donald Trump.

      According to the Walton Tribune, Walton County found 284 missing from one precinct, netting 176 votes for President Donald Trump.”

      Note that all “errors” so far have been against Trump.

    22. jason says:

      First sentence on my previous post should be in quotes too.

    23. Chicon says:

      Question for those who believe Dominion programmers altered the vote of hundreds of thousands of votes in the Biden/Trump race.

      Did Biden not want to expand Democratic control of Congress? Why weren’t votes manufactured to expand Nancy’s majority?

    24. jason says:

      Evidently the Atlanta suburbs voted massively for the Dems.

      If they do it again it will be knowing that they are giving the Dems full control.

      Since Trump is not on the ballot, the only explanation would be that they did indeed shift ideologically left.

    25. jason says:

      Question for those who believe Dominion programmers altered the vote of hundreds of thousands of votes in the Biden/Trump race.

      Did Biden not want to expand Democratic control of Congress? Why weren’t votes manufactured to expand Nancy’s majority?”

      I find this a very weak argument, sorry.

      It would be a much more complex operation, the top of the ballot is one thing, there are 535 congressional districts that encompass multiple counties, even knowing exactly which ones to target would be difficult. Plus, the more races the more risk of discovery. And finally, we don’t know that maybe some were targeted.

      I am not convinced on the Dominion thing, btw, I just don’t think this is a good argument that it didn’t happen.

      I think the most obvious fraud was in the VBM, millions of unverified ballots floating around, ballot harvesting, illegal filling out of thousands of ballots for people not eligible to vote, dead people voting, etc.

      The fraud was in illegally cast ballots. More than enough to overturn AZ, GA, PA, WI and NV, maybe MI.

    26. PresidentPaul! says:

      #Bitcoin up another 5% overnight.

      How does this compare to putting your money in a bank account and getting yearly interest rate?

    27. PresidentPaul! says:

      Will point out that dxy is hitting it’s low end of range this morning so this might not be time to buy (for once!)…maybe

    28. PresidentPaul! says:

      its

    29. Gordon Allen says:

      As bitterlaw mentions frequently,”both can be true”. VBM AND Dominion as factors.
      Given time constraints,and local Democrat control of election machinery( PA, Michigan, Wisconsin), it’s anybody’s guess as to the priority target.
      One thing for sure,there will be books by the dozen come this spring on both.

    30. jason says:

      I am very concerned about the Bitcoin situation.

    31. Chicon says:

      26 – it’s more of a thought than an argument.

      It is said that it was easy to do the fraud because it is just a person sitting at the keyboard. Why couldn’t they have done full ballots for 10-15 congressional districts, as long as the guy is sitting at the computer? It is said here that Dominion will fix the GA Senate elections. Why only those? Why didn’t they take out Tillis or Collins? Maybe it would be harder than I think it would be.

      Imo, it is something to explain if alleging massive vote fraud (which I continue to believe).

    32. jason says:

      Warren Buffet, who is a lot smarter than Bunu, has described Bitcoin as a “mirage”.

    33. MichiganGuy says:

      Chicon, maybe because some of the programmers believed the polls showing a blue wave was coming. That’s maybe why you saw people come in at 4 a.m. dumping truck loads of ballots because, by the time they realized there was no blue wave coming it was too late. Just a thought.

    34. PresidentPaul! says:

      I just think when interest rates are this low, there is no actual value of anything rather just what the market wants the value to be so I’ve been irresponsibly long bitcoin.

    35. Florida Guy says:

      Trump gets himself in deeper every day, as he loses legal cases, which are the only way he runs the table.

      He needs to find a way to extricate himself from this mess and find a way to acknowledge the obvious. And the GOP needs 101% focus on Georgia.

      –FloG

    36. jason says:

      It is said that it was easy to do the fraud because it is just a person sitting at the keyboard. Why couldn’t they have done full ballots for 10-15 congressional districts, ”

      They could have, but which 15 congressional districts. There have been a lot of surprises.

      The more races, the greater the risk for exposure. And if you steal votes in a smaller universe of votes, you run a higher risk of detection.

    37. jason says:

      And the GOP needs 101% focus on Georgia.”

      It doesn’t work that way.

      The best way to focus on GA is let the 80% (and growing) of GOP voters that understand the election was fraudulent that the party will fight for what is right NOW, not later.

    38. jason says:

      “Trump gets himself in deeper every day, as he loses legal cases, which are the only way he runs the table.”

      One sure way to lose all legal cases is to give up on them.

    39. jason says:

      Chicon, maybe because some of the programmers believed the polls showing a blue wave was coming”

      This is a good point.

      Dems were projected to win 10-15 seats.

    40. jason says:

      I think we need to focus on Bitcoin.

    41. Chicon says:

      34 – didn’t the “blue wave” polling suggest Joe by a mile? Yet they put in the fix anyway. While they were at it – if the goal was control of the government, with a packed Supreme Court and PR statehood – why didn’t they ensure themselves comfortable margins in the House and Senate?

    42. Messy says:

      38, 39. Understanding that something not true is true is a delusion. As to the suits, it’s too late now.

    43. Chicon says:

      43 – I’m sure there’s a point somewhere in this word salad. Maybe I’m being too charitable.

    44. MichiganGuy says:

      Chicon, we all have many questions but, few answers. Maybe, if the FBI did its job and investigated this; we would have more answers. Just a thought.

    45. PresidentPaul! says:

      Mohammed bin Salman wants war with Iran in possible waning days of Trump presidency

      European intelligence officials are alarmed about the possibility of military action towards Iran in the waning days of the Trump administration.? Concern that Trump — who has pushed for maximum pressure on Iran — or a combination of Israel or Saudi Arabia creating a military confrontation in the waning days of the administration has been a concern for over a week, according to three European intelligence officials who spoke with Insider.

    46. jason says:

      Maybe I’m being too charitable.”

      When it comes to ignorance, Messy shows us there really is no limit…

    47. jason says:

      Mouthwash can kill coronavirus in 30 seconds after initial exposure, a new study has found.”

      Has anyone studied vodka yet?

      I drink vodka every day, and so far have not contracted the virus.

    48. Wes says:

      Lately I’ve been touting NC as a bastion of clean elections. Cheri Beasley apparently went to the New Jersey School of Electoral Campaigns. She intends challenging the tossing of 2,000 provisional votes across the state in her effort to overcome Newby.

      Since Roy Cooper is Governor, Dems have a 3-2 majority on each county’s election board. Apparently Beasley expects each board to vote 3-2 in her favor, thus effectively deciding the election in her favor.

      https://mobile.twitter.com/JustinReid_02/status/1328870206136066048?s=19

      A decade ago, Bob Etheridge tried a similar tactic in his election against Renee Ellmers. Even though Dems held the governorship at that time too, Ellmers won. I’m hoping Newby is as successful as Ellmers was.

    49. Chicon says:

      45 – for it to matter for the outcome of the President, Trump’s lawyers need to convince judges in several states that there are enough fraudulent ballots to change the outcome in that state.

      The lawyers for the Democrats will bring up questions like this. If they want to convince the judge, the President’s lawyers need reasonable answers.

    50. Gordon Allen says:

      Jason. Since I drink gin I hope it works too. Our next door neighbors tested positive for COVD ( the first in our neighborhood), so penny and I had a test Sunday, awaiting results. In meantime have added an extra martini to the menu.

    51. Chicon says:

      Gordon – no way a wimpy virus like Covid can survive gin.

    52. jason says:

      One way might be to select a few counties and show the illegally cast ballots that were actually found, and extrapolate that to the rest of the state.

      In other words, let’s say you can show a certain percentage of illegally cast ballots in certain counties, and make the argument that that same percentage holds true for the rest of the state.

      You would only need to show that 1% are fraudulent to reverse the results.

    53. jason says:

      he intends challenging the tossing of 2,000 provisional votes across the state in her effort to overcome Newby.”

      But haven’t the county boards already decided to toss them? Who made that decision?

    54. jason says:

      I mean haven’t they been tossed following the rules established by the state or county boards?

    55. Chicon says:

      I agree, Jason. If – if – they can show ballots were changed by a programmer, all hell will break loose. We believe it may have occurred (I should only speak for me in that allegation, I suppose), but Trump’s team has to show it DID occur. Can they? We’ll see.

    56. Chicon says:

      58 – good job by Joe.

    57. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason drinks vodka every day? I though MD’s secret stash would have run out by now.

    58. jason says:

      I think the Biden vaccine will help the Biden economy.

    59. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 18, 2020 at 7:34 am
      Why do I say Robbie has the moral compass of a floating turd?

      In 2016, Trump won fair and square.

      The Dems and the MSM never accepted it and spent 4 years try to delegitimize him and engineering various coups to overthrown him.

      Robbie supported EVERY one of these efforts.

      Now in 2020 the Dems are trying to steal the election and Robbie says nah, you can have tens of millions of uncontrolled VBM ballots but you shouldn’t question wins in 3 states that would decide the election by a combined total of 42k votes.

      NOW we should consider Biden legitimate and move on.

      – I think Jason’s tinfoil hat is on a bit too tight.

      So let me get this straight.

      In the states Trump won in 2016 and 2020, everything was legal and above board , but in the states Trump lost in 2020, there was massive fraud.

      I guess fraud only exists when Trump loses?

    60. John says:

      BOOM! Trump is pumped. And 9000 more Trump votes found in Georgia!

      Donald J. Trump
      @realDonaldTrump
      The Great State of Michigan, with votes being far greater than the number of people who voted, cannot certify the election. The Democrats cheated big time, and got caught. A Republican WIN!

    61. jason says:

      “I though MD’s secret stash would have run out by now.”

      I have audited the A-hole Club “beverage” account and I can assure you all expenditures were perfectly kosher.

    62. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 18, 2020 at 7:36 am
      Hopefully these polls will be taken as a warning to the GOP leadership.

      Roll over and die at your own peril.

      – Jason believes Trump was robbed and everyone should be up in arms and willing to lose two Senate seats to make a point.

      He sounds a lot like a deadender or a Japanese soldier who refused to accept the war was over thirty years later.

    63. John says:

      In 80 Detroit precincts.. more votes were counted than there people in that county.

      Detroit got caught. Lock them up!

      Big Trump WIN!

    64. Robbie says:

      Wes says:
      November 18, 2020 at 7:59 am
      Both Ossoff and Warnock polled better than their vote totals. That’s something to keep in mind.

      – I give Republicans a slight, slight advantage right now, but that’s it.

      The kamikaze tactics being pursued by Trump are clearly rubbing off on the his most devoted supporters.

      People like Jason want a loss to prove a point. As we saw in 2010 and 2012, the “send a message” caucus can have electoral sway.

    65. Rudy G says:

      Patriots – I need your help. I am looking for recommendations for sex shops in Michigan where I can hold a press conference.

    66. Chicon says:

      John, Trump is pumped, but does he have the proof?

    67. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 18, 2020 at 10:04 am
      And the GOP needs 101% focus on Georgia.”

      It doesn’t work that way.

      The best way to focus on GA is let the 80% (and growing) of GOP voters that understand the election was fraudulent that the party will fight for what is right NOW, not later.

      – Let’s focus on the growing number of people who believe the earth is flat. We can make a difference!

    68. Chicon says:

      67 – John, do you have a link?

    69. Robbie says:

      Whatever happened to the BLOCKBUSTER! BOOM! claim that American soldiers in Germany had confiscated the Dominion servers?

    70. jason says:

      So let me get this straight.

      In the states Trump won in 2016 and 2020, everything was legal and above board , but in the states Trump lost in 2020, there was massive fraud.”

      Exactly.

      Why is that hard to understand?

      The fraud is in the VBM, very different from 2016.

    71. Phil says:

      Notice there is no longer any daylight between Robbie’s posts and what is spewed out by the usual trolls like Gator and Proud Obama.

      If this is the kind of Republican that is going to lead Republicans back into the WH you can forget it. Full MSM. I don’t know why I ever expected anything else out of the guy.

    72. jason says:

      People like Jason want a loss to prove a point. ”

      Heh, Robbie is already getting ready to blame a loss on me instead of having to choose between the following two reasons:

      1) Surrendering now, fighting later might not be such a great idea.

      2) The suburbs ARE trending left if they will vote for a hard core leftist like Warnock.

      In any case, I am sending both Ossof and Loeffler what I can afford, so so much for the theory I want them to lose.

    73. jason says:

      Notice there is no longer any daylight between Robbie’s posts and what is spewed out by the usual trolls like Gator and Proud Obama.”

      Straight out of CNN and MSNBC.

    74. jason says:

      Let’s focus on the growing number of people who believe the earth is flat. We can make a difference!”

      Robbie shows his true colors again.

      His disdain for 73 million Trump voters shines through, they are so dumb they believe in a flat earth.

    75. jason says:

      f this is the kind of Republican that is going to lead Republicans back into the WH you can forget it. Full MSM.”

      The delusion is amazing.

      The 5% of Trump haters ARE the party and will lead it to victory.

      Robbie needs psychiatric help, we should be glad he is not actually flying any planes.

    76. jason says:

      Robbie will be so proud of his mentors at MSNBC..

      “the freedom to kill other people with the virus”

      “[T] party that bangs on about the sanctity of life […] busy fighting mask mandates and pushing back on common sense health recommendations because freedom, which apparently means the freedom to die and the freedom to kill other people with the virus.”

    77. Phil says:

      Comparing what we know went on in Philly, Detroit, Milwaulkee, Atlanta on election night and the days after with flat earthers….

      That’s just sad.

    78. Phil says:

      Don’t worry folks. The suburbs will save the Senate in Georgia. Who needs those dumb flat earth society Trumpers in rural and working class precincts.

      If only they just knew their place and would shut up. Right, Robbie?

    79. jason says:

      “Rep. Anthony Brindisi climbed to within 1.2 percentage points Tuesday night of overtaking Claudia Tenney in a race Tenney led by 10 points a week ago.

      Brindisi, D-Utica, has shrunk Tenney’s lead in the 22nd Congressional District race from 28,422 to 3,576 votes, according to unofficial returns in an election where more than 300,000 people voted in eight counties across Upstate New York.

      Brindisi would have to win at least 70% of the remaining 9,033 uncounted ballots to overtake Tenney, a Republican from New Hartford, and win the election.

      Since the absentee ballot count began last week, Brindisi has won 72% of the votes (37,192-12,346), according to unofficial returns from seven of the eight counties in the district.

      Chenango County will start counting its 4,885 absentee ballots late Wednesday or Thursday, according to a county elections commissioner.

      Brindisi made his biggest inroads Tuesday by recording a net gain of about 4,000 votes against Tenney in Oneida County, where he leads the absentee count 8,961-2,683. The county still has about 4,000 ballots left to count.”

      So it is possible Brindisi will net another 2000 out of Oneida, where the vote is essentially even between them.

      However, Chenango went for Tenney 2-1, so it is unlikely that the same percentage will apply. Brindisi needs over 70% to prevail.

      It will be close.

    80. TgcaEXPERT says:

      Robbie

      As HHR’ resident EXPERT on everything except “all things
      Gay” where I defer to LisaB, let me dumb this down so even you can understand.

      The thought process in fraud is that the Dems were horrified and shocked when Trump prevailed in MI, PA, and WI in 2016. So this time they focused in those places, as well as GA for other reasons, to ensure Trump did not win again and they did that using the big cities in those states where cheating is usually easiest and not seriously challenged. Hence, the reason that the election was basically decided by about 100,000 votes in a few select cities because that level of fraud is not a hard task to accomplish in those Dem districts.

      Why would the Dems focus their fraud in states like CA, HI, or NY knowing Trump could not win in those places?

      Fraudsters perpetuate the fraud where it’s needed and they can get away with it, not where’s its irrelevant. Generally, a bank robber does not plan to rob a bank across from a police station and an arsonist does not plan to burn down a building next to a fire station.

      You got it now!

    81. sane_voter says:

      Don’t send money to Ossoff!

    82. Gordon Allen says:

      Our Covd tests came back negative. I’ll have to find another excuse for an extra martini. Maybe proof gin works?

    83. Phil says:

      He doesn’t need it. Tens of millions from California.

    84. dblaikie says:

      Well I am not a conspiracy theorist but I guess Newsmax is. They are reporting that Computer Hardware was seized in Europe by the US Gov. Chicon can check it out for himself, so don’t ask me for a link, but they reporting that they have confirmed this.

      Once again lets remember the facts: Clark County having to redo an election that effects 160000 votes. Now 3 Counties in Georgia are finding significant errors. Bad issues coming out of Wayne County. And let’s not forget that little 6000 vote error in Michigan. I believe once the light begins to shine in Pennsylvania who knows what else they will find.

      When this moves out of the Dem. State courts and gets into the Federal Court System fireworks are going to start to fly.

    85. Wobbles says:

      Don’t send money to Ossoff!”

      Sorry, but I have to.

      If he wins, I can blame jason and the flat earth society.

    86. dblaikie says:

      I am going to make one prediction. I lived in Wayne County for 15 years and everyone knows it is a corrupt political machine. Both the unions and the mob vie for total control of the County. This has all but destroyed Detroit! Oh well, here is my prediction: it will soon be discovered that more people voted in Wayne County than there are people.

    87. jason says:

      Our Covd tests came back negative. I’ll have to find another excuse for an extra martini. Maybe proof gin works?”

      So now you have solid evidence that if you drink gin the tests will come back negative.

    88. jason says:

      t will soon be discovered that more people voted in Wayne County than there are people”

      You mean registered voters.

      There were 863k votes in Wayne Co in 2020 and only 782k in 2016, which IS suspicious, especially considering Wayne Co lost population between 2016 and 2020.

    89. Gatorbilljoel says:

      Not strange at all. No one likes Hillary. Everyone hates Rump. They didn’t care to vote in 2016, but would crawl over broken glass to vote in 2020. Sorry your Con Man lost.

    90. jason says:

      Also suspicious is that even though Trump gained 371k votes in MI between 2016 and 2020, Biden got an incredible 528k votes more than Hillary.

    91. jason says:

      No one likes Hillary. Everyone hates Rump.”

      Heh, is that why he got 370k more votes in MI?

      They didn’t like Hillary but loved a mentally impaired, utterly corrupt, very creepy Biden and his Marxist wingwoman?

      Okayy…

    92. WizardofCozz says:

      You could have video of ballot workers marking ballots for Biden illegally while talking their neighbor about doing it, and Robbie would say that proves nothing. Robbie is the worst.

    93. Cash Cow TM says:

      Columnist Mark Shields says:

      Going in to this year’s Nov. 3 election there were 19 bell weather counties in 11 states that have voted for every winner POTUS elections since 1980.

      18 of them voted for Trump.

      So the is now now only one bell weather county left standing.

      Incredible, isn’t it?

    94. WizardofCozz says:

      97,

      What are the odds Cash Cow? What are the odds? Seriously though, it all shows we know they cheated, but the issue is getting an audit that checks for signature verification. That should just be standard procedure going forward in elections.

    95. jaichind says:

      97. Might this not be related to the fact that in the past a candidate that does well enough with non-college White vote wins the election but recent demographic trends means that recently this is not good enough.

    96. WizardofCozz says:

      99,

      Jaichind, that would make more sense, except for the fact that Trump also did better with minorities than previous R Presidential candidates. Well he did better with them except in Detroit, Milwaukee, Philly, and Atlanta LOL!!!!

    97. jaichind says:

      101. I can see that point of view as well. BTW, Trump actually did better in Philly in 2020 versus 2016. What it was the Philly suburbs where he lost ground.

    98. WizardofCozz says:

      Just watched the video of Whitmer on CNN. I’m feel like the dem strategy going forward is to lockdown, and then put every social program they want into a stimulus, and then if R’s don’t pass it in the Senate, then to use their media guard dogs to viscously attack them as not caring about the stimulus to help ordinary Americans!!

    99. jaichind says:

      103. And do massive bailouts of various cities finances the Dems ran into the ground.

    100. Cash Cow TM says:

      What is Antifa/BLM up to these days?

      They are being real quiet lately….
      Maybe doing early Christmas shopping?

      Or maybe they are retooling and re-equipping to hit the streets IF…IF…court cases overturn the results in any key states?

    101. Cash Cow TM says:

      How many people in the U.S. think it is POSSIBLE that a voting machine can be hacked and change votes?
      *********************
      How many people in the 1950s and 1960s thought that it was possible to pull ONE SWITCH and shut down all telephone communication east of the Mississippi?

      Well, back in the 1950s, the federal government (FAA) bought the old post office in Martinsburg, WV–reportedly to store aviation records.

      But in REALITY, in the basement of that building the feds had converted it into a nuclear bunker had all sorts of wires on the wall, and ONE KILL SWITCH that could cut off all telephone land line communication east of the Mississippi.

      This was discovered and became public sometime around 2006…more than 1/2 a century after the fact. Walt actually toured that bunker about 15 years ago.

      >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
      Wonder what we will find out 50 years from now about what technology existed that could hack into voting machines and alter the outcome of the election?

    102. Rudy G. says:

      I put on a great show today in court. The judges were very impressed with me. I have a great feeling that we are about to WIN!

    103. JeffS says:

      #105- What’s Antifa up to? Maybe anger management courses? Doubt it though. Probably palletizing bricks, filling their urine bombs and wiring mommy and daddy for more funds.

    104. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Does anyone know the outcome of the recount in IA CD-2 where the Republican led by 47 votes?

    105. jason says:

      Breaking…

      “SAQUAHENNATCH, NY—Former Democratic nominee for president Hillary Clinton is demanding to know why her party didn’t cheat this hard for her in 2016.

      “They clearly pulled all the stops for that sack of potatoes Biden. If they put a tenth as much effort in fraud for my election, we wouldn’t be here. We wouldn’t have had to endure 4 years of Trump. I want some answers!” Clinton said in an exclusive Zoom interview with Genesius Times.”

    106. jason says:

      “Rudy G. says:
      November 18, 2020 at 1:13 pm

      I put on a great show today in court. The judges were very impressed with me. I have a great feeling that we are about to WIN!”

      You need new material.

      This was maybe good for one or two posts, mildly amusing on a moronic level.

      Beyond that, you should pull the plug.

    107. Meldrim says:

      #97, Cow, you should consult Walt’s sheep on how to spell “bellwether” … : )

    108. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 18, 2020 at 11:41 am
      So let me get this straight.

      In the states Trump won in 2016 and 2020, everything was legal and above board , but in the states Trump lost in 2020, there was massive fraud.”

      Exactly.

      – Tinfoil hat nonsense.

    109. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      November 18, 2020 at 11:44 am
      Notice there is no longer any daylight between Robbie’s posts and what is spewed out by the usual trolls like Gator and Proud Obama.

      – If the new standard for conservatism is no longer just support of Trump, but support of the view the election was stolen from Trump, then I gladly admit I don’t meet that standard and I wouldn’t want to me the new standard.

      Just because Trump lost, doesn’t mean it was stolen. If Democrats were going to steal races, what happened in Florida, North Carolina, Ohio, Iowa, and even Texas? If they stole the race, why did they didn’t they steal the Senate and House races as well? You were convinced they would steal Tillis’ seat, but did they?

      It’s been two weeks. Trump has offered no evidence of widespread fraud other than he lost. Losing is not fraud. Losing is just losing. And to make matters worse for him, now he’s got Rudy out making the case for him.

      It’s time for Trump to wrap this up. He’s not going to win, he’s not going to overturn any state election results, and he’s not going to get any legislatures to send their slate of electors to Congress.

    110. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 18, 2020 at 11:48 am
      Robbie shows his true colors again.

      His disdain for 73 million Trump voters shines through, they are so dumb they believe in a flat earth.

      – No. I have disdain for people like you who have decided that because Trump lost it has to be fraud and anyone who believes otherwise is some toady for the media.

      Give it a rest. You’re embarrassing yourself.

    111. lisab says:

      lisab shows how much she truly cares about other people. Go to Vietnam and enjoy. Thanks for supporting a candidate who can’t win and will allow the Democratic Party to do what they do.
      ———————

      you are welcome nyc!

      always willing to participate in a democracy!

    112. michael corleone says:

      Robbie –

      “It’s been two weeks. Trump has offered no evidence of widespread fraud other than he lost.”

      This is patently untrue. The failure to follow anti-fraud procedures is evidence of fraud. The dramatic miscounts of votes is evidence of fraud. The inability to examine signatures is evidence of fraud. The side projects that are examining the absentee ballot requests and revealing that ballots were cast by people without their knowledge is evidence of fraud. The evidence in NV where at least 15k ineligible people voted is evidence of fraud.

    113. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      November 18, 2020 at 11:59 am
      Don’t worry folks. The suburbs will save the Senate in Georgia. Who needs those dumb flat earth society Trumpers in rural and working class precincts.

      If only they just knew their place and would shut up. Right, Robbie?

      – Trump lost a race he was expected to lose. Yet somehow, that means we should hope Republicans self immolate in Georgia and lose both seats so the country can be taught a lesson.

      How in the world did a strong supporter of Rubio in 2016 become a guy rooting for his side to lose just to make a point?

      Before the election, you and other said if Republicans lose, they’ll never win again. Now, you want Republicans to lose so they are taught a lesson. I don’t follow the logic. If we can never win again, what lesson will the voters be taught by losing?

    114. Gordon Allen says:

      Chicon. How quickly do you think I can get GIN martinis approved as a vaccine by the FDA? It’s cheap, readily available ,and tested for decades as having no harmful side effects ( unless you go over the prescribed limits)
      If approved I’ll share the profits with hedgehog contributors.
      Is Fauci a tee totaler?

    115. Gordon Allen says:

      Robbie. If you look at the Trump filings they contain multitude of affidavits and exhibits( ie evidence) BTW,what is your definition of evidence? Only that which the MSM publishes, like Trump’s guilt in the form of Russia Collusion?

    116. lisab says:

      Also, both Democrats carry Indies and Others by about 40%.

      Can someone explain this? Thanks.
      ———————–

      my hubby was brought up an evangelical christian.

      much like dw, who if you recall has left hhr,

      my hubby probably would not vote in ga for the senate runoffs because of the apparent fraud

      i think he has always voted republican, 100% (obviously i don’t know for sure), but yeah, the gop has lost voters over the election

    117. Phil says:

      LOL, Robbie.

      You just named five states where mail in ballots were counted in a timely fashion. No ballots were excepted without signature matches, no tens of thousands of ballots that suddenly appeared and were counted over a week after Election day. No observors were barred from the counting. Guess what. Trump won each state going away in each of the named states.

      Take Florida. All votes were counted and in by 11:00 election night. Same with Ohio and Iowa. Texas? Don’t make me laugh. Strong voter ID laws even in Democratic urban areas. They couldn’t cheat if they wanted to. Each of these states knew exactly how many votes were cast and needed to be counted….and they were counted timely and with polling observors from each party present. Nothing was done in secret. No one was kicked out as in Philly or Detroit.

      ‘Just because Trump didn’t win doesn’t mean it was stolen”

      Except there is a little more than “just because Trump didn’t win” and you know it.

      You are such a MSM sock puppet who just can’t help himself.

      Florida? You really want to compare vote counting procedures in Florida with Philly and Detroit?

    118. Phil says:

      Accepted

    119. lisab says:

      i think that if trump lost under a

      florida system, where the votes were very transparent and quickly tabulated on election day, but most importantly

      quite openly and transparently

      then people like my hubby would be fine with it — they would not like it, but they would not think the election was a fraud

    120. Phil says:

      Same here, Lisa.

    121. NYCmike says:

      lisab,

      #124 – NO DOUBT ABOUT IT!

    122. NYCmike says:

      “It’s been two weeks.”

      -This sums up Robbie.

      Like another poster pointed out, for 4 years he has regurgitated EVERY MSM story about Russian interference, pornstar dalliances, Avenatti hijinks, pee-in-Obama-bed b*llsh*t, but he can’t wait more than 14 days before throwing in the towel for investigations into voter fraud, which by the way, the Republican Party will have to deal with again in 2 years, or in less than 2 months in Georgia.

    123. lisab says:

      “It’s been two weeks.”

      -This sums up Robbie.
      ——————————

      no, he never had a date in high school

      that sums up robbie

    124. lisab says:

      Alex Jones Leading Crowd of Trump Supporters Storming Georgia State Capitol
      —————–

      if true, (i did not open the link)

      i don’t think that will help your case

    125. jason says:

      “now, you want Republicans to lose so they are taught a lesson”

      Can you name one person here that isn’t a a Dem or a troll that said they want the Rs to lose the runoff? That even remotely suggested they don’t think these seats are crucial?

      That is another of you lying fantasies.

      Of course, if they do lose, I will be interested in what lessons YOU will have learned.

    126. lisab says:

      my school has mostly shut down btw

      and they are preparing for pretty strict lockdowns

      they are asking for volunteers to “babysity” essentialy workers’ children, so that essential workers can go to work

      i think thansgiving will be a strict lockdown

    127. jason says:

      You’re embarrassing yourself.”

      What is embarrassing is the guy who believed EVERY unfounded BS story against Trump for 4 years now says “let’s move on” from massive fraud because it is only against Trump.

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    128. lisab says:

      Of course, if they do lose, I will be interested in what lessons YOU will have learned.
      —————————————

      they will just be upset they cannot go back to a 2004 type gop

      romney just criticized the usa pulling more troops out of iraq and afghanistan again

      i think he will probably run in 2024

    129. jason says:

      i think that if trump lost under a

      florida system, where the votes were very transparent and quickly tabulated on election day, but most importantly

      quite openly and transparently

      then people like my hubby would be fine with it — they would not like it, but they would not think the election was a fraud”

      Right. The problem with these other states is that they knew exactly how many votes they needed, and they miraculously “found” just enough to win by minuscule margins of 10k votes in GA and AZ and 20k in WI, etc.

    130. jason says:

      i think he will probably run in 2024″

      He is going to primary Kamala?

      Dang, I might come out of political retirement to vote for him in the Dem primary.

    131. Paul says:

      Georgia to certify tomorrow?

    132. This Chick is a Dude says:

      Sidney Powell claims that the President received over 80 million votes. Seems like a stretch, but she is confident. Are we believing it?

    133. Sidney says:

      Always believe the Kraken.

    134. lisab says:

      biden will rejoin the iran nuclear deal

    135. jason says:

      “Like another poster pointed out, for 4 years he has regurgitated EVERY MSM story about Russian interference, pornstar dalliances, Avenatti hijinks, pee-in-Obama-bed b*llsh*t, but he can’t wait more than 14 days before throwing in the towel for investigations into voter fraud, which by the way, the Republican Party will have to deal with again in 2 years, or in less than 2 months in Georgia.”

      “another poster”… snifff.

    136. Rudy G says:

      Please send me some new material…

      Anything, thanks.

    137. lisab says:

      the key to making the government as the center of a person’s life, the “god” a citizen worships, is to break down the family

      fortunately we still have thanksgiving and christmas to till gather as families

      the government will never even try to stop those … oh wait 🙂

    138. The Godfather says:

      As a Trump supporter, I feel he was cheated from winning re-election.

      Reality is the local courts, and federal courts will all end up denying Trumps motions and the state legislators will not get involved.

      We need to focus on the Georgia, senate races. If we lose those no republican will ever be elected President again, since the high court will be packed by Democrats.

      Sad thing is Trump did well, lost millions of dollars and made tough decisions. He will leave in Jan and probably face some sort of prosecution in New York and go to jail. Political payback sucks, but that is reality probably.

    139. Phil says:

      Ex Presidents don’t go to jail.

      It’s a bridge too far for the left. The ultimate MSM wet dream, but it would infuriate at least half the country.

      Trump’s not going to be prosecuted for anything as much as the moonbats would love to see it.

    140. dblaikie says:

      People need to realize the reality we are in. Millions of people fill and believe this election was stolen. The best way to lose the seats in Georgia is just to give up. Trump is right we have to fight this to the end. Otherwise from about 40 million angry voters the GOP is going to get the collective screw up.

    141. RB says:

      Well small bit of new (IA-02)

      Meeks picks up 3 votes and expands lead from 47 to 50 votes…as i read it, about 10,000 of 90,000 counted in that county

    142. sane_voter says:

      NY-2 update

      Gordon concedes in NY-2 race. The seat previously held by Peter King stays in GOP hands. Garbarino has a large vote lead of over 40,000 but it still is not called by the AP or DDHQ.

    143. RB says:

      Big hold on Long Island

    144. Cash Cow TM says:

      “bellwether”

      I got it right this time!

      🙂

    145. Paul says:

      Dblaikie: It might have been better to live in the reality that Trump had lost instead of making so many of the Trump supporters believe a lie. Now they are in the position of feeling let down when the GOP inevitably accepts the valid results of the election.

    146. jason says:

      Only in your dream world will the GOP voters believe this was not fraud.

      GFY.

    147. jason says:

      “He will leave in Jan and probably face some sort of prosecution in New York”

      For what?

    148. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      In NY CD-22, Tenny(R) lost another 1,350 of her lead. It’s down to about a 2,300 vote lead for Tenny with one County remaining on counting their absentee ballots, which will be finished tomorrow.After that come the provisionals and the overseas/military votes.
      This will be a humdinger, but I give a slight edge to Tenny unless she crashes in tomorrow’s count in Chenango County.

    149. sane_voter says:

      NY-22 update

      Josh Rosenblatt:
      3354 NEW absentees from Oneida County.
      @RepBrindisi (D) picks up 2350,
      @claudiatenney(R) picks up 1004. This could potentially be the last batch of absentee votes in Oneida.

      Margin is 40% in that batch. This brings Tenney’s lead down to 2124 votes.
      Still waiting on Chenango county update tomorrow. They are supposed to have 4885 ballots outstanding.

    150. dblaikie says:

      Hey Paul, I was going to respond to you, but you know what, I don’t care what you post!

    151. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #155
      Where did you get the 4885 number for Chenango?

    152. Paul says:

      dblaikie: Go to hell and stay there.

    153. lisab says:

      Trump is right we have to fight this to the end. Otherwise from about 40 million angry voters the GOP is going to get the collective screw up.
      ——————-

      the trouble is dblaikie,

      contrary to popular belief here,

      it is not the trumpists that are leaving

      it is the people who think the election was a fraud.

      you could do a venn diagram of the two groups, and they would overlap … but nothing close to 100%

      why vote if it is a fraud? it just lends credibility to the puppet masters

    154. lisab says:

      and …

      there are the people who think the rinos wil get what they deserve under a dem run government

    155. Cash Cow TM says:

      Everyone knows that Cow is not a big fan of Trump.

      BUT…this cow would dance naked in the street if the following happened.

      1. DJT court cases in PA, WI, GA, MI or wherever actual go to the Supreme Court.

      2. The big part of the case involves use of Dominion voting machines and if they are hackable.

      3. DJT lawyers ask the members of the SCOTUS to each put their own yes or no about the Trump case (yes for Trump, No against Trump) in 9 separate envelopes and lay them on the table.

      4. Then DJT lawyer brings in a Dominion voting machine, has Dominion people to test it and certify it is accurate. Does a test run. Works and is certified.
      [AND…unknown to everyone but the DJT lawyers, someone is in another room and hacks the voting machine]

      5. Then the DJT lawyer asks the justices to individually come down and cast their yes or no vote on the Dominion machine and go back to the bench.

      6. THEN, THE MACHINE SPITS OUT THE RESULTS AND THE MACHINE SAYS IT IS A 9 YES AND 0 NO DECISION.

      7. THEN, THEY OPEN THE 9 ENVELOPES TO REVEAL THE VOTING OF EACH OF THE JUDGES AND IT IS 3 YES AND 6 NO.

      Then SCOTUS, VOTES TO IMMEDIATLY RECONSIDER THE CASE, AND RULE 9-0 IN DJT’S FAVOR AND OVERTURNS election results in 4 to 6 states.

      IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN, MSM MEDIA PEOPLE, LIBERALS, DEMOCRATS, ETC. WOULD have 5 inches of raw egg on their faces and SH!T THEMSELVES WHILE COW DANCES NAKED IN THE STREETS!

      (Of course many Dems, Robbie Gatorbelly, etc. would be nonplussed and say that doesn’t proved anything!)

      And of course Antifa/BLM would immediately riot and burn down 20 major cities in the U.S.

      I WOULD DO NOTHING BUT WATCH THE NEWS FOR THE NEXT MONTH AND WATCH THE SH1THEADS EAT CROW.

      PERHAPS I WOULD EVEN THROW A BARBEQUE FOR ALL THE HHR POSTERS…oh, wait…maybe not a barbeque…

    156. Country Dick Montana says:

      Paul – Meds Paul. Please take them. We pay for them for you and they would help with your anger issues. They won’t keep you from being the leech that you are, but it’s something anyway

    157. NYCmike says:

      Ca$h getting udderly medieval!

    158. RB says:

      Wasserman models that when they count Chenego County Tenny holds like n by about 150..but tight ..tight…tight

      I

    159. Paul says:

      Just expressing my feelings, CountryDick

    160. dblaikie says:

      Now Paul, sticks and stones. Oh forget that. Once again, now even more, I could care less what you post.

    161. Bitterlaw says:

      If Trump ultimately loses, I take comfort in knowing that the ratings of CNN and MSNBC will plummet. At least until “sources” start setting the ground work for Biden to resign for “health reasons.”

    162. Rudy G. says:

      Hannity just said that I was “absolutely brilliant” in court today.

      I am the best lawyer. I feel so good that I’m going to hold a presser tomorrow in front of the dildo and bead store. Meet me there and we can give President Trump a second term. 4 more years!

    163. Bitterlaw says:

      These trolls suck. Embarrassing.

    164. Sydney says:

      Shut up, Rudy. I’m the best. No one can touch my Kraken.

    165. Q says:

      Watch the Waters. Watch the Watermarks. All will be revealed soon.

    166. Rudy G says:

      Bitter – the offer still stands to join our all-star legal team. The discount from the dildo store alone is worth it.

    167. Pitchaboy says:

      Rudy G, have you deposed Skinny Joe yet?

    168. Rudy G says:

      BTW, bitter, what is “strict scrutiny” and how is it different than regular scrutiny?

    169. Rudy G says:

      I obviously know. But, how would you explain to a five year old?

    170. sane_voter says:

      From The Hill:
      “Two senior Minnesota Democratic state senators abruptly quit the party Wednesday after it failed to win the seats necessary to reclaim the majority in this month’s elections.

      State Sens. Tom Bakk and Dave Tomassoni both said they would leave the Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party, the state’s version of the Democratic Party, to form a new independent caucus within the upper chamber. In a statement Wednesday, the two said their goal was to create a more bipartisan, moderate atmosphere.”

      Both represent districts in the Iron Range, which is trending GOP, and are now caucusing with the GOP. They will also get committee chairs from GOP majority.

      The chamber had no net change this election, remaining 35R-32D. Each party flipped one seat.

    171. sane_voter says:

      Josh Rosenblatt:
      “I have double-checked and triple-checked all of my math:
      @claudiatenney (R) now has 153,089 votes.
      @RepBrindisi (D) now has 151,010 votes.
      The lead in #NY22 is down to just 2,079 votes… Nail. Biter.”

      “As to the total number of ballots outstanding in #NY22, here is where I am at: ~4800 absentee in Chenango, up to a 1000 provisional potentially in Oneida, and a few hundred ballots (mainly challenged) elsewhere.

      Still no definitive number, but it appears to be in the 6k range.”

    172. John says:

      BOOM!

      Political Polls
      @Politics_Polls
      #GAsen Runoff:

      Loeffler (R-inc) 50% (+4)
      Warnock (D) 46%

      Perdue (R-inc) 53% (+9)
      Ossoff (D) 44%

      VCreek/AMG / Americas PAC, LV, 11/10
      http://vcreek.com/PDF/GA_Nov_SnapPoll_VCreek_AMG_11_17_2020.pdf

    173. Rudy G says:

      I want to apologize for the same old hackneyed posts, I understand they weren’t even funny the first 50 times i posted them, let alone the last 200.

      But I am not from the top of the troll gene pool, actually more like from the stinking bottom, and nobody gives me any new material.

    174. jason says:

      Maybe Robbie can read these affidavits and then tell us there is no “evidence” of massive fraud.

      https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/11/18/281856-n281856

    175. mnw says:

      181 John

      That’s a GOP poll, & the sample size is 300 LVs, which is not to say it may not be correct. Also, it looks like it was conducted on Nov. 10th, i.e., 10 days ago.

    176. This Chick is a Dude says:

      Sadly, it appears that Malinowski has been named the winner in New Jersey again. You all had my hopes up.

    177. Cash Cow TM says:

      GA vote

      (a comment on a Red State article)

      “Wilson53 • 3 hours ago • edited
      In 2016’election, the % absentee ballots rejected due to signature mismatch was 5.6% – which was in line with previous elections.

      This year, according to Steven Crowder, the rejection rate is .4%.

      Thats a difference of 5%, in 3 Million mail in votes, or about 150,000 votes that should have been rejected.”

    178. Sidney says:

      Jason, the affidatits are just made up. Courts have already thrown them out.

    179. Rudy G says:

      I too blamed my farts on classmates… my law school classmates.

    180. Q says:

      Jason is a pedophile who eats penile glands of chldren to get Adrenochrome.

    181. dblaikie says:

      Well the Wayne County drama continues. The same members of the Canvasing Board who refused to certify the election a day ago, and then changed their mind, have changed their mind once again. They have now rescinded their vote once again alleging that they were bullied and misled into approving the election yesterday. If they stick to their convictions this time this is huge. It is a boom! They are claiming serious irregularities in the vote in Wayne County.

      Folks this election stinks worse than gangrene and is just as deadly to our Democracy. Once these huge issues are sorted out and Biden has more real votes than Trump, than as always I will bow to the will of the people. But with all this crap going down, I believe that when the real votes are ever counted Trump is going to win.

      Oh and chilcon, since you always need a link here it is: https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/wayne-county-election-board-republicans-say-they-were-bullied-rescind

    182. dblaikie says:

      Those poor GOP folks who have now rescinded are about to have the media attack them like there is no tomorrow. Too bad, for their sake, they couldn’t have the strength to sick by their original vote.

    183. Paul says:

      They are anti-American terrorists in Wayne County if they stop it from being certified. They hate black people and hate America.

    184. dblaikie says:

      Here is an affidavit from one of the GOP Canvassers. It is powerful and disturbing reading.
      https://www.dropbox.com/sh/f681mxoh8e2am4o/AAC4Rlomi5fPHdZLJ5vkyDila?dl=0&preview=20201118184530537.pdf

    185. Paul says:

      And backsies isn’t a thing.

    186. dblaikie says:

      Just to remind you, Paul, no one cares what you post.

    187. Paul says:

      dblaikie: NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR LIES. GO TELL IT TO SOMEONE WHO CARES>

    188. dblaikie says:

      Here is the other affidavit Monica Palmer the Chairperson of the Wayne County Board of Canvassers. She claims that her family was threatened yesterday. If this is true, well let’s just say there will be trouble in Biden’s world tomorrow. Oh Chilcon, here is the link:
      https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1329279643006930945/photo/2

    189. Paul says:

      Monica Palmer voted twice yesterday to certify. There’s not tacksey-backsey.

    190. dblaikie says:

      “Tacksey-backsey” Paul how old are you?

    191. dblaikie says:

      From the article in Just the News, it appears that they can rescind. After all, they rescinded their first vote.

      “In an extraordinary turnabout that foreshadows possible legal action, the two GOP members of Wayne County’s election board signed affidavits Wednesday night alleging they were bullied and misled into approving election results in Michigan’s largest metropolis and do not believe the votes should be certified until serious irregularities in Detroit votes are resolved.

      The statements by Wayne County Board of Canvassers Chairwoman Monica Palmer and fellow GOP member William C. Hartmann rescinding their votes from a day earlier threw into question anew whether Michigan’s presidential vote currently favoring Democrat Joe Biden will be certified. They also signaled a possible legal confrontation ahead.”

    192. Paul says:

      The state will certify without them. They are stupid ignorant people that should be sent off to the reeducation camp soon anyway.

    193. dblaikie says:

      Well folks I am going to bed. However let’s review. Georgia stinks to high heaven with finding new Trump all the time. And now Michigan stinks to with credible allegations of huge fraud in Wayne County. And the dems are weirdly nervous about the two County recount in Wisconsin.

      Have a good night.

    194. dblaikie says:

      Sorry Paul, but you are the one who needs reeducation. Night.

    195. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      172. These trolls suck. Embarrassing.

      Same trolls; different names. HHR gets the barrel bottom dwellers. I would not include Paul as a troll; he is a real legitimate wacko.

    196. Thomas A says:

      This is the best comedy site of all time
      Conspiracy theories for whack jobs with no grasp on reality
      Thank you for the numerous laughs. It’s been awesome

    197. Gordon Allen says:

      This ” election” is totally screwed up. Too bad the original date for inauguration ( March 4) was changed to January 20, because in this instance maybe we could have a redo. Not enough time now.

    198. LivintheDream says:

      No need for a redo. Our Founding Fathers provided for this situation. If neither candidate achieves an electoral vote majority by December 14th, then the decision on who becomes president goes to the House. Each state delegation gets one vote. The Republicans have the majority in 26 states which would result in Trump remaining president.

      The Trump team’s strategy is not to get states to flip for him but simply to prevent the 3 of the six states in question from certifying the results and naming electors.

      So where do we stand:

      Michigan – Wayne County has not been certified. If this remains, Biden doesn’t win it.

      Wisconsin – a real recount to take place in Dane and Milwaukee, the epicenter for Joe Biden’s lead. If the ballots are actually handled and reviewed, it is likely that Trump may win this state outright.

      Pennsylvania – This is heading to the Supreme Court with a very good likelihood of success because of the way the State treated VBM differently from in-person voting.

      Georgia – Trump will challenge this after the fake recount. Who knows but Trump only needs to she doubt on 10k votes.

      Nevada – Clark County on its own has thrown into question 136K votes for a down ballot commissioners race saying it lacked confidence in the process. This will likely lead to these ballots becoming jettisoned in the Presidential contest as well. Given Biden’s margin in Clark County this has the making of a switch to Trump or no certification

      Arizona – only a 10K margin. Trump will challenge. Whether there are enough wrongly registered, dead or double state voters to close the gap is a question

      Overriding all of this is whether Trump and his team can actually show manipulation of the vote through the Dominion system. In fact, Trump and team may challenge in Virginia on this basis.

      Point being, we are still in the First quarter of the game and Trump’s team is in position to score. The media want this to end now bc they know the truth.

    199. SweatyToothedMadman says:

      208, yours is a compelling analysis – but isn’t the calendar against Trump? Dec. 14 looms.

    200. LivintheDream says:

      209 – 25 days is a lifetime in politics. The issue is getting one to reverse. Once/if that happens, momentum and pressure from the Trump team will cause a domino effect.

    201. dblaikie says:

      Sweaty, good point. But that Dec. 14 date looms for both sides. If those 3 states can’t certify, this election is going to get thrown into the House.

    202. SweatyToothedMadman says:

      210 & 211, thank you both. This election is a rank sham – but it seems a just outcome is akin to drawing to an inside straight.

    203. LivintheDream says:

      Sweaty, that is a logical response given the media’s treatment to date. But it’s clear that the media is very worried. When the Wayne County decision first came out Tuesday with no certification, Amy Walters of the Cook Report melted down on tv, saying the challenges have to be stopped, claiming no fraud. She knows. That’s why having one state reverse busts the media’s narrative.

    204. SweatyToothedMadman says:

      Thank you, LTD, for boosting my spirits. What should we look for next and when?

    205. Pitchaboy says:

      Rudy G: your charm worked in Wayne County. Go kill it in PA SC.

    206. Gordon Allen says:

      I was under the understanding that Rudy appeared in federal court on the basis of the Bush v Gore ruling of disparate treatment of different classes of voters ( equal protection argument).
      The PA Supreme Court is a no chance,not least because it’s decision to extend balloting, without legislative authority,is itself pending in the Supreme Court.

    207. jason says:

      Jason, the affidatits are just made up. Courts have already thrown them out.’

      Zzzzzz…. liar.

    208. dblaikie says:

      This Wayne County refusal is huge. Why? Well, how is the State Board of Canvassers in Michigan going to certify the election with any credibility if the largest county in the state by a huge margin won’t certify. This is a big problem for the Biden Campaign.

    209. dblaikie says:

      If one domino falls the next one won’t be so hard.

    210. George says:

      Drip…drip…drip…
      And then there’s this:

      BOOM: Election Fraud Expert Russ Ramsland Files Affidavit Showing ‘PHYSICAL IMPOSSIBILITY’ of Election Results in Michigan

      “Now we have physical improbabilities along with the statistical improbabilities we have uncovered.”
      This election was fixed for Joe Biden.

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/boom-election-fraud-expert-russ-ramsland-files-affidavit-showing-physical-impossibility-election-results-michigan/

    211. Chicon says:

      Ok, dblaikie, thanks for including the links to your info. It allows us to judge the likelihood that it is rational and correct. Or not.

    212. Chicon says:

      Gateway Pundit = National Enquirer.

    213. Rudy G. says:

      It’s happening! President Trump is assured a second term now. But we need your help to fight the coup plotters.

      I know you all own guns. I need you all to head down to DC in January and defend the rightly elected president from those who are trying to overthrow him.

      I will be there on the front line! I fight in court and I fight on the battle field. Reply by message on this board so I know who’s coming to help President Trump.

    214. Gordon Allen says:

      National Enquirer= CNN,MSNBC,NBC,FoX, Washington Post,NY Times…

    215. Rudy G says:

      I apologize for that post, same drivel as my previous 200 posts, but am just not intelligent enough to find new material.

      Before you judge me, remember not every troll can come from the top of the troll gene pool. Some of us, through not fault of our own, come from the gene pool cesspools.

    216. jason says:

      Actually if you read through the affidavit, the rationale seems logical enough, but I don’t know if it is garbage in, garbage out.

      If Ramsland is working with good data, he could have something there.

    217. Chicon says:

      Gordon – GP has shown me that it does the same thing CNN, etc., do – write stuff they think will get them more traffic, truth be damned. I don’t like it when they do it, so I don’t like it when they do.

      I think you should pursue the gin Covid market. It makes far more sense than many things coming at us.

    218. Yvgeney says:

      My Comrades,

      Most excellent work. I am so very proud of all of you patriots. Especially Jason and Annie. Most excellent job of fighting for your president, the Great President Donald Trump.

      Remember that this election was not fair. It was fixed. It was fake. You must not let the results stand. You must always be within reach of your guns and you must be willing to march to Washington D. C. to defend your CAPITALISM and FREEDOM!

      Most important talking points for you:
      ? Dominion servers have been seized in Germany and Singapore.
      ? Administrators who worked on the Dominion servers have been captured and will be testifying in court.
      ? Vote by mail ballots were manufactured and fraudulently filled out
      ? Big dumps of Biden only ballots were scanned in the middle of the night
      ? Trump poll watchers were denied access while Biden poll watchers were given access.

      Please stay strong my comrades. Your hard work will be rewarded.

      Otlichnaya rabota,
      Yvgeney

    219. jason says:

      I thought there was a limit on stupid a troll could be, but yvgeney proved me wrong.

    220. jason says:

      Should Trump do rallies in GA for Loeffler and Purdue?

      I would say if polling shows them ahead, maybe not. Let sleeping dogs lie?

      If it shows them behind, especially with a drop off in R enthusiasm, then yes?

      I could be convinced either way.

    221. George says:

      Here we go!

      Important News Conference today by lawyers on a very clear and viable path to victory. Pieces are very nicely falling into place. RNC at 12:00 P.M.

      — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 19, 2020

    222. Rudy G says:

      yvgeney, can I borrow some of that garbage?

    223. jason says:

      I am encouraged that far from Robbie’s call for “resolution”, i.e. let’s surrender to massive fraud because it is against Trump, things seem to be moving the other way.

      No resolution, no surrender, no acceptance of fraud.

      It is more and more looking like the Dems are trying to run out the clock on the fraud, just hoping they can keep their finger in the dam long enough than when it breaks Biden will already be President.

    224. jason says:

      Trump now at 15% probability to win the election on Predictit.

    225. Gordon Allen says:

      Chicon. My point is be skeptical of half of everything you see,and all of what you hear and read.. from anyone.

    226. Chicon says:

      Gordon, that’s my point, too.

    227. jason says:

      Looks like Malinowski beat Kean by 5k votes… too bad.

    228. jason says:

      Elections have consequences:

      :If Texans are worried about a second lockdown coming to the state, then they can rest easy as Governor Greg Abbott has promised that no new lockdown measures will be taken, even as cases in Texas rise.

      “We are not going to have any more lockdowns in the state of Texas,” Abbott said during a radio interview with Dallas’s Mark Davis on Thursday.

      “Our focal point is gonna be working to heal those who have COVID,” he added, “get them out of hospitals quickly, make sure they get back to their normal lives.”

    229. jason says:

      Gov Wolf says he is not planning any lockdowns in PA, but that is because he knows the pushback will be massive.

    230. dblaikie says:

      Chicon, no problem. Just want you to know I am not a conspiracy nut “Elvis is not dead” type of guy. I was beginning to think you were thinking I was.

    231. Rudy G. says:

      BOOM

      Big court day in Michigan coming up. Wish me luck.

      I feel great about this one. I’m on a roll.

      Presser in front of the Dildo and Vibrator superstore at 6:69 PM today.

    232. Wes says:

      Heh. On RRH, a Canadian is attacking the ?US for our means of holding elections.

      Oddly enough Canada is a country that hasn’t even turned 40 yet. Nonetheless, Americans are supposed to take advice on how to conduct itself from a sparsely populated, oversized country that spent 200 years slacking on self-rule while the British picked up the tab.

      Great job, Canada!

    233. Rudy G says:

      Again, sorry.

      I got nothing else in the tank, so I keep repeating the same drivel over and over.

      Take pity on me, I am a pathetic ass.

    234. jason says:

      wes, the Canada head of state is still Queen Elizabeth, and Canada has a Governor General appointed by the Queen.

      https://www.canada.ca/en/canadian-heritage/services/crown-canada/about.html

    235. Phil says:

      Lots of moronic trolls to scroll past this morning.

    236. mnw says:

      229 jason

      I’m also undecided on that.

      On another aspect of the GA specials, Kemp appointed Loeffler in large part because she could supposedly self fund. Well… now’s the time!

    237. jason says:

      A lot of people outside the US think the EC is not democratic.

      They fail to understand the United States of America are exactly that, united states, with different laws and that voluntarily joined the Union with certain guarantees.

      The EC college which ensures smaller states have a voice commensurate with their populations, is one such guarantee. Another is the Senate which ensures all states have important representation in the legislative branch.

      Nothing “undemocratic” about it.

    238. Phil says:

      Exactly. What would be Democratic about one state, California determining who is President every four years?

    239. TgcaEXPERT says:

      As an Expert in all things things except gay culture in which I defer to LisaB, I would say that Trump’s probability of winning re-election is currently 23.69487%. That is assuming SCOTUS, led by Roberts, throws up roadblocks as expected since he is more interested in his image on the court instead of righting any wrongs and providing justice for Americans.

      If however, SCOTUS does agree with my excellent EXPERT advice that some of these states violated voters’ rights and Trump prevails legally, then I would revise my probability of Trump winning re-election to 87.3265%.

      In the case of the latter, I would also predict with 99.8723% that many in the MSM like Don Lemon, Anderson Cooper, and Van Jones will start uncontrollably sobbing on live TV.

    240. Chicon says:

      240 – no worries. I ask for links to try to keep myself balanced. Some of what I’ve seen here is too fanciful for me until I see more. I admit I am scarred by the Russian Hoax thing where we were told that the perp walk was coming any day.

    241. Q says:

      Rudy! Don’t forget to check the watermarks in Michigan.

    242. LivintheDream says:

      249 – Roberts lost control when Judge Barrett joined the court. It’s now Clarence Thomas’s court. All Roberts can do is act as an emissary to the three Liberal judges to see what level of illegality they will agree to so as to have a 9-0 decision. If the Liberal justices pass on the olive branch, Thomas will write a decision for the ages that will be either 5-4 or 6-3. Remember who caused Thomas to endure the Anita Hill episode – none other than Judicial Chair Joe Biden.

    243. Tgca says:

      This is an illustrative congressional district map of the US from 2016 and still pretty consistent today.

      If not for our electoral system, the vast majority of the US and it’s land resources would be contiguous and Republican nation with various pockets for Dems mainly along the coasts.

      If we were not a United States, then we would have one big Red country and some various Blue countries in place of the USA. Where would these Blue nations get their resources from then?

      https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/30/1627319/-Daily-Kos-Elections-presents-the-2016-presidential-election-results-by-congressional-district

    244. Tgca says:

      If the Dems and MSM so strongly believe in majority rule, then should not America roll back gay rights at 5% of population, or AA rights at 12% of the population since they are not majority groups?

      It’s a dumb argument to say that majority should rule in votes but not other areas. Our country is founded on a majority – minority relationship, otherwise, there would never have been a United States and we would have had various countries instead.

    245. jason says:

      Q must come from the same troll gene cesspool as Rudy G.

    246. PresidentPaul! says:

      What’s a good website for updates on the house races?

    247. Wes says:

      I’m aware Canada is essentially still a British colony, Jason; however, since 1982, Canada has had home much as India has. Although Queen Elizabeth is still the official head of state, the locally elected Canadian government serves at the will of the Canadian populace.

    248. jason says:

      Doesn’t look like Lance Preibus wants to move on.

      “Former White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus reacted on Twitter late Wednesday to the election situation in Wisconsin.

      At a special meeting that lasted more than five hours, Democrats on the state elections commission sought to change recount guidelines after the Trump 2020 Campaign filed a petition to review the state’s votes in Dane and Milwaukee counties.

      “Let’s get this straight,” Priebus wrote. “The Trump campaign sent the Wis Election Comm. $3 mil and filed its petition for a recount. Then the WEC immediately called a special meeting to change certain recount rules that deal with the issues brought up in the petition? You can’t make this up!”

    249. Chicon says:

      256 – Just ask Ron Paul for an update, he knows all.

    250. Tgca says:

      GOP dropping MI lawsuit because they achieved result of stopping certification of Wayne County. Not sure what this means long-term and whether the state can proceed with certifying the state results or not or if the rescinded certifications by the GOP board members will hold.

      Perhaps one of our lawyers here can opine if they’re not out ambulance chasing this AM.

      https://www.newsmax.com/politics/michigan-lawsuit-vote/2020/11/19/id/997819/

    251. jason says:

      I’m aware Canada is essentially still a British colony, Jason; however, since 1982, Canada has had home much as India has. Although Queen Elizabeth is still the official head of state, the locally elected Canadian government serves at the will of the Canadian populace.”

      I didn’t say you weren’t aware. I posted that in support of your point that we don’t need lectures from Canada.

    252. Wes says:

      I misunderstood your point, Jason. Canada definitely has no right to lecture us.

    253. Roger says:

      260: I’ve heard that the state can proceed with their own canvas and certification without the Wayne County board.

    254. Gordon Allen says:

      I believe the objective in michigan was to get an audit of Wayne County ( Detroit I assume)
      My understanding is the Republicans on the Board felt that was a prerequisite of certification by them.

    255. jason says:

      What is hilarious about that ABC map is that below where they show the individual races, out of their 16 “toss-ups” the Dems only won 1 of them.

    256. Roger says:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/11/19/wayne-county-rescind-certifying-election/

      Is this problematic or not?

      “”President Trump called a GOP canvassing board member in Wayne County who announced Wednesday she wanted to rescind her decision to certify the results of the presidential election, the member said in a message to The Washington Post on Thursday.

      “I did receive a call from President Trump, late Tuesday evening, after the meeting,” Monica Palmer, one of two Republican members of the four-member Wayne County canvassing board, told The Post.

    257. jason says:

      Unless he offered her money to change her vote or threatened to send her to Guantanamo, I don’t see any problem.

    258. Roger says:

      Biden called her today to rescind her rescinsion.

    259. Roger says:

      I’ve been enjoying this site from a distance for awhile. A lot of different viewpoints.

    260. jason says:

      LOL, reported by CNN

      If even the Dems say it “was only a few”….

      “Current and former Trump administration officials have privately reached out to President-elect Joe Biden’s transition team even as President Donald Trump continues to refuse defeat and falsely claim victory, according to sources familiar with the matter.

      Two Biden transition officials said Wednesday that it was only a few current and former Trump administration officials, and they described it as “not a big deal.” However, it suggests there are people in Trump’s orbit who believe Biden will be the next president even if Trump refuses to concede and his legal team mounts meritless lawsuits to challenge the results in several states.

      The news was first reported by CNN”

    261. jason says:

      I’ve been enjoying this site from a distance for awhile. A lot of different viewpoints.”

      Yes, but how many are “A-rated” like mine?

    262. jason says:

      “according to sources familiar with the matter.”

      Okay, CNN.

    263. jason says:

      “California judge rules strip clubs have First Amendment right to reopen, even as churches remain shuttered”

      Ok, let the clever comments begin.

    264. Roger says:

      I’ve enjoyed your discourse with Robbie. It’s like reading the Federalist papers.

    265. Wes says:

      I’m willing to bet at least some strippers use “Heaven” or “Angel” as a stage name, so patrons can claim they’re trying to find God by going into strip clubs at least.

    266. Dylan says:

      260

      TGCA–I am a lawyer albeit in the deep blue CA sea. What I will say about the GOP decision in MI and their public “strategy” to date is as follows:—IMHO it is totally haphazard without ANY legit chance of succeeding on any level.

      First of all, you don’t put someone like Rudy in charge as the face man of any “serious” effort. He is zero credibility with judges. You need serious election law specialists–do we have those? who knows. . . .

      Secondly, you don’t dismiss a lawsuit without a “settlement agreement” or “consent decree” or “stipulation for judgment” and then claim victory, because without a pending lawsuit, you have no hammer to achieve your goals.

      Third–none of these efforts seem as anything more as patchwork quilt hail marys in both State or Federal Court. Trump needs to be in Federal Court only at this point. And he needs to be very mindful of the clock. Tick Tock.

      I agree it’s one thing not to telegraph legal strategy, but have you heard anyone give even a coherent unified statement of what they intend to achieve and BY WHEN?

      This is a total joke in my opinion but feel free to donate to the effort–I sure am getting a lot of “donate now” texts “or else armageddon will ensue. . . .”

    267. jason says:

      I’ve enjoyed your discourse with Robbie. It’s like reading the Federalist papers.”

      It is hard to have discourse with someone who has the moral compass of a floating turd but duty calls.

    268. Rudy G. says:

      Ignore Dylan. He is a TROLL. I am the best lawyer in the world

      I will single handedly give President Trump a second term.

      Michigan GOP lawmakers are going to DC today. Trump wins Michigan.

      Wisconsin recount will go to the courts now. We will get Wisconsin’s electoral votes too.

      Georgia is the easiest of all. Gov Kemp will deliver.

      I am good!

    269. eriepa says:

      Actually you need new material-you’re struggling to be semi amusing.

    270. Chicon says:

      Did the news conference happen?

    271. Rudy G. says:

      Presser happening now in front of 69 Seasons Dildos and Beads.

      69th Street.

    272. Ivanka T says:

      Which one of you farted? Probably Jason – he is always stinking this place up

    273. George says:

      Sydney Powell: WE ARE TAKING OUR COUNTRY BACK BACK! Sydney & Rudy are having a huge press conference.

    274. Rudy G. says:

      Best presser of my life. I’m so excited.

      The lovely lady even complimented my hair. Did you like my new hair style? Check out my video I posted to Twitter just now https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1329482404684238848

      4 more years!

    275. Rudy G. says:

      LETS TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!

      Bring your guns and ammos to Detroit, Milwaukee, and Atlanta. No VOTES from those cities will be COUNTED!

      I am the best!!

    276. Roger says:

      They do need to determine an appropriate and fair distance for observers and make that consistent throughout states.

    277. jason says:

      Which one of you farted? Probably Jason – he is always stinking this place uu”

      You are still into fart jokes?

      How many times have you repeated 4th grade?

    278. Phil says:

      LOL

      The trolls are going all in today.

      Got their instructions.

    279. Rudy G says:

      Forgive me.

      I know I am a jackass, but what can I do.

      I have to troll with what I have, which is the same thing over and over.

      Pray for more intelligent trolls, the bar is low.

    280. Roger says:

      Rudy is shredding the Dems.

    281. Roger says:

      The REAL Rudy. Not the Hedgehog one.

    282. Rudy G. says:

      I like this Roger guy.

      4 more years!!

    283. NYCmike says:

      “They do need to determine an appropriate and fair distance…”

      -2 people sit at a table right next to each other.

      What else is appropriate?

      If the Democratic ballot watcher is scared of getting sick, replacing them with a person with 1/2 a brain, put a mask on both, and follow the rules written by the legislature and signed into law by the Governor.

    284. jason says:

      The troll level is horrendous.

      Farts and dildos?

      I guess if you have an IQ under 70 maybe that is funny?

      Nahhh… not even then.

    285. Rudy G says:

      So let me give you a preview of my next 200 posts..

      Dildos

      4 more years

      Bring your guns

      Dildos

      4 more years

      Bring your guns

      Dildos

      Really cool st-ff….

    286. Rudy G says:

      I am the real parody of the fake Rudy G.

    287. Roger says:

      So, do I understand it correctly that the Michigan Republican legislators have gone to DC to meet with Trump. Are they planning on sending Trump electors no matter what the Michigan vote ends up being? Can they do that?

    288. Rudy G. says:

      Roger, YES. That’s what I’ve been trying to tell you.

      The same will happen in Wisconsin and Georgia.

      We will THROW OUT the votes from Detroit, Milwaukee and Atlanta.

      4 MORE YEARS! Dildoes for everyone!

    289. Annie says:

      Wow! Dominion Voting Systems and Scytl Secure Electronic Voting companies that were seized by the U.S. military in Frankfurt, Germany, show that Trump had actually won a landslide 410-128 victory in the electoral college.

      A mirror server located in Malaysia showed the same tally.

      Just WOW.

    290. Rudy G says:

      Have you guys ever seen a whoopee cushion?

      I like playing with them even more than will dildos.

      You sit on them and it sound just like a fart.

      I can’t wait for Thanksgiving to see if I can get my uncles and aunts to sit on them.

    291. Rudy G says:

      Are they planning on sending Trump electors no matter what the Michigan vote ends up being?”

      I doubt it. The Senate leader sounded like a scared rabbit in the interview I saw.

      I am not on board with the elector thing. I am on board with throwing out ALL the illegally cast ballot.

      And I don’t think 150k illegally cast ballots is a stretch, I bet there are a lot more than that.

    292. jason says:

      I agree with Rudy G, excellent post.

    293. WizardofCozz says:

      301,

      Annie you have a link??

    294. Gordon Allen says:

      Seems the server being ” seized” in Germany is true.This is stuff Hollywood couldn’t make up.

    295. jason says:

      Wow! Dominion Voting Systems and Scytl Secure Electronic Voting companies that were seized by the U.S. military in Frankfurt, Germany, show that Trump had actually won a landslide 410-128 victory in the electoral college.

      A mirror server located in Malaysia showed the same tally.

      Just WOW.”

      What does the server in the Falkland Islands say? I would say that is key.

    296. Roger says:

      I believe the server being seized is just a fabricated story.

    297. Annie says:

      There are tweets by Louie Gohmert and a video too. The Democrats are shameless.

    298. Rudy G. says:

      I have a copy of the Dominion server on my laptop at home. It also has a copy of Hunter Biden’s hard drive and a copy of Stormy Daniels Greatest Licks.

      I love my laptop!

    299. Ivanka T says:

      What did the server up your butt say?

      FART FART FARTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    300. Rudy G says:

      Ivanka T is So funny.

      I never get tired of farts.

    301. Annie says:

      All these trolls means just one thing: The Democrats are scared, scared, scared.

      All of their cheating is going to be revealed soon!

    302. jason says:

      Florida was a disaster for the Dems.

      And let’s give credit to where it is due: Donald Trump.

      “After suffering crushing losses from the top of the ballot down, the state party now is mired in a civil war that could have profound consequences for future elections.

      High hopes for gains in the state Legislature have given way to recriminations and finger-pointing. Florida Democratic Party Chair Terrie Rizzo is almost certain to lose her job, but no one has stepped up to claim her mantle. Prospective 2022 gubernatorial candidates, including state Rep. Anna Eskamani and state Sen. Jason Pizzo, are slinging blame. And redistricting, which could deliver Democrats into another decade of insignificance, is around the corner.

      Even as Joe Biden heads to the White House [Disputed -LP], state Democrats know that President Donald Trump did more than just win in Florida. He tripled his 2016 margin and all but stripped Florida of its once-vaunted status as a swing state. His win, a landslide by state presidential standards, was built on record turnout and a Democratic implosion in Miami-Dade County, one of the bluest parts of the state.

      “We have turnout problems, messaging problems, coalitions problems, it’s up and down the board,” said Democrat Sean Shaw, a former state representative who lost a bid for attorney general in 2018. “It’s not one thing that went wrong. Everything went wrong.”

      What happens next in Florida could be an early signal of how the Democratic Party’s current progressive-centrist divide plays out in Washington and elsewhere. In interviews, more than 20 Democratic officials, organizers and party leaders throughout the state said the party schism has grown only deeper since Election Day. Would-be gubernatorial candidates have already begun trading fire as they begin to lay the ground to try and defeat Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis.

      This year, Florida Democrats had one of the worst performances of any state party in the country. They lost five seats in the state House after expecting to make gains. Three state Senate hopefuls were defeated, and incumbent U.S. Reps. Donna Shalala and Debbie Mucarsel-Powell, who represented districts in Miami, were unseated.

      Many of the party’s failures over the years can be traced to unforced errors. When Democrat Andrew Gillum lost the governor’s race in 2018, he had $3.5 million still sitting in the bank. He then pledged to register and reengage 1 million Florida voters this cycle, but that evaporated after he left public life amid scandal.

      Florida Democrats haven’t held the governor’s office for more than two decades, and they’ve been out of power in the Legislature for nearly a quarter-century. Since their last big win, when President Barack Obama won Florida in 2012, Democrats have won just a single statewide race — out of 12.

      As Trump made the state his official residence and his top political priority for four years, lavishing resources and attention on it, the Democrats again neglected to build an infrastructure for talking to voters outside of campaign season. The Biden campaign chose to forgo voter canvassing in the state because of the coronavirus pandemic. And outside money that the party apparatus couldn’t control sometimes worked against its own candidates.”

    303. Hugh says:

      The real Rudy is killing it. No doubt there was huge fraud. Also we know why there where so many Biden votes with no down ballot votes. They needed the votes fast and had no time to do anything but fill in the president portion.

    304. Gordon Allen says:

      Hugh. That makes sense. The haste forced that( only Biden vote). Also explains the rationale for the three states to stop counting. If this was a mystery,things are starting to come together.

    305. Hugh says:

      This may get interesting.

    306. Dylan says:

      317—Totally makes sense but it is incomprehensible why Rudy/whoever hasn’t spelled that issue out for the media–it’s not like they are giving anything up by putting forth that theory.

      Do they even have a lawsuit where they are alleging this piece of evidence as a vehicle for invalidation of the vote? I havent seen it.

    307. LivintheDream says:

      This was an important presser for a variety of reasons.

      1. If true, these were treasonous acts against the country and therefore those who perpetrated this crime face severe criminal sentences.

      2. By going public and pointing to the evidence, others who are in the chain of the crime but not the big fish will come in to cut a deal rather than face the music.

      3. This was a call to the media that if the Trump team finds that any of them were complicit in this conspiracy, they too may be on the hook.

      4. This gives cover to various state legislators to back Trump.

      5. This won’t go unnoticed by the Supreme Court.

    308. Roger says:

      We will soon see most of the Democratic leadership being hauled away to Gitmo to remain for the rest of their lives. For some, that may not be long since they will be guilty of treason and shot dead. There may be so many, that they will need to find a faster way to expedite the process.

    309. Gordon Allen says:

      318. Dylan. I agree,as it is logical,meets the known facts,and is understandable to the average person.

    310. Robbie says:

      Jennifer Jacobs
      @JenniferJJacobs
      Lara Trump, the president’s daughter-in-law, is eyeing a US Senate bid in North Carolina in 2022, per @anniekarni.

      – LOL.

      Wes?

    311. Robbie says:

      The Rudy press conference was the most embarrassing thing I’ve seen during the Trump years. If Trump does have a case, the last person he should want to make it was loony Rudy. Rudy accused Hugo Chavez of playing a role. Chavez died in 2013.

      But what made the press conference such a perfect metaphor for the Trump years was Rudy’s hair dye running down the sides of his face.

    312. CamRep says:

      Wake up, people! The evidence is coming out fast and furious!

      We now know for a FACT that the ghost of Hugo Chavez is collaborating with AOC, Lord XXglav of the Planet Mordon, and Cindy McCain to RIG this election and STEAL it from our Glorious President, Donald James Trump (may he reign ten thousand years!)

      These are FACTS, people!!!

    313. Chicon says:

      Dblaikie, 301 is why I ask for a link.

    314. dblaikie says:

      Now that Robbie has weighed in I know the News Conference was effective. That was backed by a simple little tweet by well known Trump hater, Bill Kristol. He succinctly tweeted, “I am concerned.”

      And by the Wormtongue Rudy was not wrong about the Biden family. But of course you don’t care about that. You would rather drone on about what RINO’s you like in 2022.

    315. Roger says:

      Someone promised me Krakens. Where are the Krakens?

    316. Country Dick Montana says:

      Why so many trolls? Or why is the one with multiple names posting so much. If their side won, then what is the point, thier job is done. Sad lives indeed.

    317. Roger says:

      “Clowns…can do tremendous damage.” is Kristol’s response.

      They are clowns. But they’re clowns who’ve sprinkled some gasoline around and are now trying to light matches. And they’re doing this at the direction of the president, who still does control the executive branch of the U.S. government.

    318. Chicon says:

      322 – Robbie LOL’s at a potential GOP candidate. Last name Trump of course. But he certainly is a big tent guy happy to have Trump supporters in the house!

      Sorry, Robbie, the unwashed have permanently moved into the house. Deal with it or move out.

    319. dblaikie says:

      Yea Chicon, I agree. Newsmax is confirming that the servers in Germany were seized. However the big if is that they don’t know who seized them. The military is denying that they did it. OK, but then who did seize them?

    320. CamRep says:

      We now have videotaped PROOF–PROOF, PEOPLE!–that a massive conspiracy is underfoot! MASSIVE!

      My sources tell me that an Estonian prostitute has video footage of Venezuelans installing software designed by Joseph Stalin HIMSELF to rig millions of votes that were cast LEGALLY for Donald Josiah Trump and discard them!!! This was VERMONT. President Trump won VERMONT! Let THAT sink in!!

      She is in hiding and won’t be able to reveal her identity because she fears assassination from antifa. Also, she fears the video might have been scrambled by the Chinese to look like a recording of an episode of “Alf.” But it’s REAL!!

      My sources tell me the Democrats are already calling into the President, pleading for mercy, but He will show NONE. Expect Schumer to resign within the HOUR, with Pelosi & Harris to follow. AOC is in hiding, but my sources tell me the Proud Boys are on the case!

      WE WILL PREVAIL!

    321. NYCmike says:

      “– LOL.”

      -Robbie,

      Out of all of the people who run for office, why hold this response solely for a Trump?

      I have no great desire to see any of the other Trump’s run, but what special talent do you think they lack as opposed to other people who throw their hat in the ring? What is George P Bush’s great talent which you didn’t LOL at?*

      *Please note, I also have no negative feelings towards them running either, as I would get a chance to see them in a primary if they so choose.

    322. dblaikie says:

      For me, the big fact of the week has been the discovery of new votes in Georgia and most important of all, the refusal certify the Wayne County results. Don’t see how the State can certify an election when the largest county in the state refuses to do it.

      This creates a huge mess that could well complicate what electors are going to represent Michigan?

    323. Chicon says:

      NYC – good point. Add in the Kennedy’s too.

      We know the difference, though. Trump is of the unwashed, a low-renter. Any Bush is an esteemed member of polite society.

    324. jason says:

      I wouldn’t laugh at Lara Trump.

      She comes across as very smart and articulate.

    325. WizardofCozz says:

      LOL, Can Robbie get any worse? Robbie would be the juror in a murder trial with multiple sworn witnesses to the crime who decries, “show me the evidence”!! What a morally decrepit clown he has become.

    326. NYCmike says:

      “What a morally decrepit clown he has become.”

      -Become?

    327. LivintheDream says:

      I don’t like family political dynasties from either party.

      Having said that, and as a resident of NC, at least she will fight to win the seat. Tillis did the bare minimum in terms of campaigning and demonstrating that he wanted win. Having been to a fundraiser of his more than a year ago, I was stunned at how little he seemed to want to run again. My sense is that he was talked into it for the good of the party.

    328. CamRep says:

      2022 will be a Glorious Year for Our Leader!

      Lara Trump will EASILY win NC. BANK ON IT! You’ve heard it here first. My sources tell me the field is already cleared.

      The First Daughter Ivanka set to DETHRONE Chuck Schumer in NY in 2022. That ghoul is already pleading with the President to spare him. He will NOT!

      The Beautiful and Vivacious Kimberly Guilfoyle will win in FL in 2022, after she defeats RINO Marco Rubio in a glorious Primary! THE BEST IS YET TO COME!!

      The First Lady is laying the groundwork for a run against Patrick Leahy in VT in 2022. Her Common Touch will win her the race EASILY.

      Sources tell me Barron & Eric Trump will be named by the President to the Joint Chiefs in early 2022. Our brave troops will pledge Him allegiance, or they will be PURGED!

      With a massive RED WAVE that year, the People’s Will will be clear! The Supreme Court is already eyeing a petition, I am told, to remove HEINOUS Term Limits, to give our great leader the glorious, uninterrupted reign He deserves!!!!

      You lib cucks who dare doubt it will be the first begging for mercy, but He will show NONE.

      May He reign for Ten Thousand Years!!

    329. Roger says:

      Servers in Germany were seized by the DNC.

    330. WizardofCozz says:

      338,

      Touche!!

    331. jason says:

      I didn’t watch the press conference.

      But if Robbie didn’t like it, bet that it was effective.

      Also, this whole idea that Rudy should not be involved in making a case is MSM progaganda at its best.

      The guy was a federal prosecutor, US Associate AG and the US Attorney for the Southern District of NY. I would say he is eminently qualified to make any case he deems appropriate.

      Politically, I have often said he is past his expiration date. But I have no doubt he is a heck of a good lawyer.

    332. Roger says:

      334: dblaikie: I understand that the State can do their own canvas and certification. Or they can also just let the Wayne County certification stand and ignore the rescinsion.

    333. jason says:

      The trolls are unhinged.

      Good sign.

    334. WizardofCozz says:

      Jason,

      I think the bigger tell for how well the presser went is how much the media is flipping out. They’re starting to now say Trump is trying to steal the election. Well the only way that happens in their minds is if he is making traction, and so I feel better about where we are then say last week at this time.

    335. Roger says:

      I do not see a way that Trump wins this. That may not even be the goal anymore. The goal is now to make Biden and the Democrats pay politically.

    336. Gordon Allen says:

      The scary part is Powell saying she don’t know who obtained the server, the good guys or bad guys!!! In part explains the firing of Esper and the timing. This really is 1775 all over again as Powell said.

    337. Phil says:

      Robbie triggered by the press conference. This is the guy who yesterday put Florida, Ohio, and Iowa’s election counting procedures in the same category as Pa and Michigan.

      LMAO

      The ultimate MSM sock puppet strikes again.

    338. jason says:

      Massive fraud and a stolen election.

      Meanwhile Robbie is talking about hair dye.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo

    339. Hugh says:

      I have not finished the whole press conference but Rudy is great.

    340. Ivanka T says:

      Please support my sister-in-law for Senate. You’ll love the smell of her farts.

    341. Robbie says:

      dblaikie says:
      November 19, 2020 at 3:41 pm
      Now that Robbie has weighed in I know the News Conference was effective.

      – Never change. Your certitude reminds me of your certitude Republicans would win seats in the House in 2018.

    342. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      November 19, 2020 at 3:48 pm
      322 – Robbie LOL’s at a potential GOP candidate. Last name Trump of course. But he certainly is a big tent guy happy to have Trump supporters in the house!

      Sorry, Robbie, the unwashed have permanently moved into the house. Deal with it or move out.

      – These seats are pretty darn important to risk on someone who has never run for any office and whose political views are unknown. Can you say with certainty what her views are? Can you say with certainty an inexperienced candidate running for a seat that could decide control of the chamber is a good idea?

    343. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      November 19, 2020 at 3:50 pm
      “– LOL.”

      -Robbie,

      Out of all of the people who run for office, why hold this response solely for a Trump?

      – I know she’d be fine with you, but your candidate selection skills are notoriously bad.

      I would have this response for anyone who has no experience in politics. That doesn’t mean it’s a disqualifier, but we know nothing about her views and whether she could actually run a competent race.

    344. Robbie says:

      WizardofCozz says:
      November 19, 2020 at 3:59 pm
      LOL, Can Robbie get any worse? Robbie would be the juror in a murder trial with multiple sworn witnesses to the crime who decries, “show me the evidence”!! What a morally decrepit clown he has become.

      – Rudy suggested Hugo Chavez played a role in this even though he’s been dead for seven years.

      As for the evidence, I’m always suspicious of secret evidence that so good it will dazzle you, but so secretive it can’t be revealed.

    345. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 19, 2020 at 4:03 pm
      I didn’t watch the press conference.

      But if Robbie didn’t like it, bet that it was effective.

      – Watch it. It was one hour and forty minutes of lunacy and punctuated by Rudy’s hair dye running down his face.

      If Trump has a case to make, the last person who should make it is Rudy.

    346. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      November 19, 2020 at 4:19 pm
      Robbie triggered by the press conference. This is the guy who yesterday put Florida, Ohio, and Iowa’s election counting procedures in the same category as Pa and Michigan.

      – It was an embarrassment and it was so bad that it completely distracted from any reasonable points Trump’s team may have had to make.

      If you watch it, you’ll see that. I watched it and it was equal parts funny and sad.

    347. Phil says:

      …and I presume the Georgia seats are kind of important as well. Should we be looking at the voter fraud that took place two weeks ago? Naw, says Robbie. There wasn’t any. It means in Robbie’s world the counting on January 5th will be on the level in Fulton County as well. Nothing to see here. CNN says so.

      Democrats would label Robbie the perfect clueless Republican. They can steal and steal and keep on stealing.

    348. Hugh says:

      I watched it and Robbie has no nodes what he is talking about. Very effective.

    349. PresidentPaul! says:

      News today is that Schumer is back at the negotiating table for the stimulus bill now that he knows passing one won’t help Trump any longer.

    350. Hugh says:

      Another Robbie lie. Or better said taking something said out of context. Same thing. Just like our press.

      – Rudy suggested Hugo Chavez played a role in this even though he’s been dead for seven years.

    351. NYCmike says:

      “I would have this response for anyone who has no experience in politics. That doesn’t mean it’s a disqualifier, but we know nothing about her views and whether she could actually run a competent race.”

      -Got it.

      I am sure you apply the same “LOL” comment to any young Bush, Cheney, Clinton, or Kennedy personality who tries to get into politics.

      Also, are you against the primary system, where we would find out her views?

    352. Phil says:

      Yeah, nothing that took place in Atlanta, Philly, Milwaulkee, Detroit on election night was anything but on the level.

      Looked perfectly fine to me too, Robbie.

      Hair dye my ass.

      Answer me this. There were 19 swing counties across the nation that have gone with the winner in every election since 1960. Trump won 18 of them. Seem a little funny to you?

      Nope. Perfectly understandable.

      LOL

    353. NYCmike says:

      “Democrats would label Robbie the perfect clueless Republican. They can steal and steal and keep on stealing.”

      -They literally bank on enough Robbie-types being around so that the press will always have willing Republicans to garner their 30 pieces of silver.

    354. PresidentPaul! says:

      Rand Paul on NewsmaxTV: I’m worried about absentee ballots in Georgia

      https://twitter.com/newsmax/status/1329518558997516288?s=20

      Another nightmare brewing in Georgia

    355. Phil says:

      366

      Of course. There are always going to be the Robbies and Romneys around to serve as useful idiots.

      The media counts on them and they are always there for them.

    356. EML says:

      BREAKING: source in #NY22 just relayed the Chenango Co. absentee/affidavit/overseas totals…

      Brindisi (D) 3,290 (64.6%)
      Tenney (R) 1,448 (28.4%)

      Per source, Claudia Tenney (R)’s #NY22 lead is now just *75 votes* and it’s unclear what other ballots remain.

    357. Phil says:

      367

      Nope. There won’t be any cheating on election night January 5th. Democrats wouldn’t do that. We have been assured by the MSM.

      I’m certainly reassured.

    358. Phil says:

      Well it looks like the Democrat will come up with just the exact number of votes at the last moment to pull out another race.

      Imagine that.

      I’m shocked I tell you. Just shocked.

      LOL

    359. PresidentPaul! says:

      Pretty sure they are already cheating as we speak.

    360. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      369 – Tenney is gone! Doneski! Finito! Goose is cooked!

    361. Phil says:

      Yeah, it’s a miracle!

    362. EML says:

      369 – Tenney is gone! Doneski! Finito! Goose is cooked!
      ==========================
      This was the last chance for Brindisi to catch up. All counties have counted all local absentees. Only thing that might be left are overseas military, which will be in Tenney’s favor.

    363. Roger says:

      Raffensberger says that Biden will be certified the winner of Georgia tomorrow.

    364. Chicon says:

      356 – says the guy who selected JEB!

      BTW, what was George W. Bush’s first run for political office? Did you support said run? Did it work out ok?

    365. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Rudy’s press conference today was one giant yawn, except for the moments where he made a total fool of himself. Has anyone checked to see how mentally impaired he is? I actually feel sorry for the crazy guy.

    366. Roger says:

      Michigan will certify on Monday, right?

    367. Roger says:

      So, once a state certifies the votes. The legislature sends electors according to that total. What recourse do they have at that point? Supreme Court?

    368. Dylan says:

      I watched Rudy. It actually was much better than he is given credit for by the Trolls or the MSM–and I really wanted to be critical of him–he did fine. Not Jim Baker but fine. But again, the ingredient that is missing was a coherent statement of WHAT IS THE LIKELY VEHICLE FOR OVERTURNING THE ELECTION. I’m not sure Rudy even knows. And maybe there isn’t a vehicle–but that would have been the way I would have framed it if they put me in charge . . . .

      Biden is nowhere to be heard or seen.

    369. lisab says:

      Of course. There are always going to be the Robbies and Romneys around to serve as useful idiots.
      ——————————

      the difference is romney actually IS a republican

    370. Phil says:

      Two peas in a pod if you ask me.

    371. Hugh says:

      Biden is trying to figure out what he will do after hunter is sent to jail and he cops a plea. Biden won’t last a year as Pres.

    372. Dylan says:

      Is Biden even excited about his “win”?

      Does he even want the job at this point?

      I get no sense of either

    373. Hugh says:

      The only excited Biden is Jill. His brother and son will soon be going to jail. And the big guy may follow shortly after. My guess is the stress will kill him or he will end up having to step down because of his dementia. He will be made a fool of weekly even with the press covering for him. He really doesn’t have a lot to look forward to.

    374. Waingro says:

      Dale Russell
      @DaleRussellFox5
      ·
      13m
      BREAKING: Federal judge denies motion to halt vote certification in Georgia.
      @GaSecofState
      announces audit is over, hand ballots counted, and
      @JoeBiden
      won Georgia.

    375. LivintheDream says:

      Time to appeal. We are heading to the Supreme Court.

    376. PresidentPaul! says:

      Real Vision daily briefing up for today

      https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/double-dip-recession-horizon

    377. LivintheDream says:

      Though I believe this was the suit brought by Lin Wood and not the Trump team so there were standing issues that may have resulted in the dismissal. In any case, the Trump team will now bring its own suit and go through the courts.

    378. Hugh says:

      Once again stabbed in the back by our own worthless republicans. Got to hand to the dems they fight over every square inch and they stick together. However having a press 100% on your side makes it a lot easier for them. Republicans have to have serious courage. And most people don’t really have that.

    379. PresidentPaul! says:

      #386

      Ya right, they already sent hillary in with the hammer to target the laptop.

    380. Country Dick Montana says:

      It appears that mainstream and establishment Republicans are laying down and accepting Biden. Fine. We are all Democrats now.

      It is dangerous for this country when a significant portion of it feels disenfranchised. Apathy eventually leads to distrust and ultimately small acts of rebellion. When people feel that their vote no longer matters they eventually find other means of showing their displeasure.

      I for one am waiting to find out what happens when 60 or 70% of the working adults in the US decode that it really isn’t worth working anymore. They can be taken care of by the government.

      Those are the non-country club voters who will simply decide to stay home as there is no difference in their lives under the GOP or the DEMS.

    381. Country Dick Montana says:

      …and to tell you the truth for the troll/trolls there is no difference either, they simply for once in their lives want to be on the winning team.

      For the Robbies, they don’t care as long as they are right.

    382. Country Dick Montana says:

      Told the Man today that my last day is 1/20/2021. Half don’t believe me and half just laugh figuring that is just CDM being CDM.

      There are still layoffs going on in the business, so it also gives them a chance to let me go if they need to and maybe save some younger kid’s job.

    383. PresidentPaul! says:

      We’re at over 80 thousand hospitalizations today, which is 33% higher than the height of covid in March.

      We can go on like this…until hospitals become overwhelmed.

      At that point policy makers will be forced to go into lockdown whether that is at the state level or if we continue like this then it will be a nation wide lockdown soon.

    384. lisab says:

      cdm,

      you can’t retire …

      who will pay for my student loans?

    385. PresidentPaul! says:

      CDC is now saying a lot of the infections are happening in small groups…aka thanksgiving is going to be a covid bonanza with spreaders hitting up their loved ones.

    386. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #369- EML
      Welcome back. Last time we heard from you, your wife had just delivered your first child. How go things?

      In the NY CD-22 race, there are four(4) different versions of how many votes Tenney(R) is ahead.To wit:

      106- Dave Wasserman/The Cook report(changed from 75)
      131- Local Reporter
      233- Local Reporter
      338- Syracuse Newspaper

      The one consistent is that Tenny is in the lead!

    387. RB says:

      If Tenny wins it is a 2 year hold…my guess is NY will eliminate the district and give Katko a safe district (since they cant beat him even with Syracuse in NY 24) and maybe shift some of that to an upstate Dem (Moloney maybe) and call it a day

    388. Gordon Allen says:

      Kemp and the SOS took a dive, because they were paid off. They’re completely done, deservedly so. Establishment Republicans are as utterly useless as dead fish.

    389. Country Dick Montana says:

      LisaB- Don’t worry they will likey nick my IRA and 401k. I will still take care of those loans for you.

    390. lisab says:

      whew … thanks cdm, i was worried! 🙂

    391. Country Dick Montana says:

      Put my faith in the GOP
      And the GOP let me down
      So I turn the other way and I carry on
      Anyhow.

      That’s why I celebrate

    392. Gordon Allen says:

      I’ve noticed the difference in Democrat’s and Republicans for 50 years. For Democrat’s politics is who they are; for Republicans it’s like being on the golf team. Something to do ,but not who they are.
      For many Trump voters there is passion involved. For establishment Republicans there’s none except being ” accepted”. They’re dinosaurs just after the meteor hit.Their day is done.

    393. Dylan says:

      406- Gordon–yes. That is why like some others on this board, if in the likely event that Trump’s run ends on Jan 20, 2021, I am done obsessing with politics. i will still focus on trying to make money and take care of my family and try and outsmart the system (as legally as possible) but the writing is on the wall. We have been assimilated.

    394. EML says:

      #369- EML
      Welcome back. Last time we heard from you, your wife had just delivered your first child. How go things?
      ===========================
      I’ve at least posted here on election night 2016, 2018, and 2020. Looking forward to drawing maps for redistricting and Republicans winning back the House in 2022.

    395. EML says:

      If Tenny wins it is a 2 year hold…my guess is NY will eliminate the district and give Katko a safe district (since they cant beat him even with Syracuse in NY 24) and maybe shift some of that to an upstate Dem (Moloney maybe) and call it a day
      =================================
      Geography is such that giving Katko a “safe” district is not possible. He is from Syracuse after all. It is likely that the Antonio Delgado (Dutchess County) in the current NY-19 will end up getting drawn in with either Tenney/Brindisi (both from Utica) or Sean Maloney (Putnam County). But Delgado is 150 miles from Utica and less than 50 miles from Maloney, so my guess is the NY-22 winner will have a district all to themselves. I am in the extreme southwestern part of the district and will almost certainly be drawn into Tom Reed’s new district. So, only 2 years for me with whoever wins.

    396. Gordon Allen says:

      Well, luckily for me I’m retired,and love your support for working! I know that’s unfair,and would change it to your benefit if I could. I have children and now a grandchild,and worry like heck for them( and you), not for me.
      I’m totally, completely done with the Republican party institutionally; from now on fighting for the US,it’s constitution,and best interests are my only guideposts; if you’re a lay down and roll over Republican ,let my join the group rolling over you. I think ultimately a working class, growth oriented, minority welcoming,non globalist party , assimilating Trump voters in and disaffected Democrat’s will emerge from the ruins of today’s Republican Party,and the Democrat Party,and give those younger than I the chances I had. Establishment Republicans,and obviously leftist Democrat’s , don’t.

    397. Ivanka T says:

      Lisa cropdusted the room.

    398. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      I don’t think Trump is going away, if he is no longer president he will still lead a movement and hold rallies. Reportly he is even looking at running in 2024. He can claim he lost the 2020 election because of irregularities, and if Biden’s presidency goes into shambles (which is likely) he can say it would not have happened if he was still president.

    399. Dylan says:

      413–Yep–and assuming Trump is healthy/still has energy to campaign and do the YMCA thing, ain’t no one on the GOP side taking him out. No one. Maybe that makes him Grover Cleveland or Adlai Stevenson but he’d be the nominee.

    400. Country Dick Montana says:

      Personally I would rather Trump start a 3rd party. First send the GOP the way of the Whigs, then rebuild around the real working class,which will take time. Would also love to see him call for his supporters to go to the Inauguration en masse.

    401. CamRep says:

      Trump won in a landslide!

      Evidence is for liberal cucks. The only proof we need is our gut feelings that He won!!

    402. Victrc says:

      Talk about heads exploding. Can you imagine if he does win in 2024 after four years of Biden/Harris. He will certainly be running against Harris and not Biden and has every chance to be the next Cleveland.

      I do not believe there will be enough of a demographics change to stop him in 2024, in fact, if anything PA, MI and potentially WI become that much more Trump-ish. Florida will not swing D for sure, and both Florida and Texas will gain electoral votes. I think he would carry GA without shananagins (sic) though I think AZ might be a stretch but with WI, PA MI and GA back on the table he doesn’t need AZ.

    403. Dylan says:

      417–I’m really concerned about the concept of a “tipping point” in these states that turn blue. It sure seems like once they go blue for several cycles in a row ( a la VA, CO, NM, NV) they do NOT ever swing back. Just look at New England after 1988—those states no longer swing. Getting harder and harder to win as a GOP nominee. I think Trump in 2024 is a very long long shot and that is true even assuming there is massive electoral reform–which is no guarantee.

      Now-that said, I love indulging the fantasy of Trump winning in 2024 but it’s a long shot.

    404. Victrc says:

      Dylan….is it really. The people in Eastern Europe became sick of socialism and overthrew it, and they never had the taste of real freedom that Americans have had.

      Do you think that Michigan which will watch industry die there even more in the next four years as they are targeted would not revert back to the guy who brought jobs back and had the lowest unemployment rate in the last 60 years?

      PA. You can guarantee that fracking is gone and the oil industry is in steep decline by ’24 under President Harris. You don’t think that is going to be enough to swing those votes?

      GA. It’s 10,000 votes and four years of a ground game that almost won when the D nominee had 10,000,000 more votes than the last D nominee.

      There is something to be said for leading a shadow opposition for four years when dramatic change is taking place, one that goes against the very foundation that this country was built on.

      I wouldn’t count him out, especially if he learns when to be Trump and when to be a leader (Think last debate).

    405. VictrC says:

      Dylan

      BTW VA CO NM and NV are not good comparables (sic) for PA, MI and WI .

      Those states have turned, in the case of CO, NM and NV because Californians have fled their horrible policies, only to institute the same policies in those states, forever ruining them. In the case of VA it’s the massive growth of the nanny federal state. They are voting for their very jobs.

      PA, WI and MI are losing jobs. No one is emigrating there. They are losing people as younger people head for the greener pastures of the cities, especially when unemployment spikes during the upcoming lockdowns (and subsequent flu season restrictions going forward every year).

    406. VictrC says:

      immigrate to those states, not emigrate. That is what is actually happening, they are emigrating to other states.

    407. PresidentPaul! says:

      #415
      …..Ya great idea

      That’s how we end up with war criminal GWB in 2000 instead of Pat Buchanan.

    408. Ivanka T says:

      Bombshell breaking news out of Michigan

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCCwBYcPads

    409. Pitchaboy says:

      PA, MI, GA are goners. DJT had massive turnout but was taken out. Question is by VBM for real or by fraud. If they get away with it this time, game over.

    410. Dylan says:

      Exactly If you review many a post Pre-election, there was all this talk about how Trump had a huge GOTV and Biden had nothing But yet, PA WI MI etc fell like dominos Yes maybe there was fraud but why won’t there at least be equivalent entrenched fraud in 2024? GA feels a lot like VA Once it’s gone it’s gone

    411. Pitchaboy says:

      DJT got 11 million more votes than 2016. Unbelievable GOTV. SloJo beat that without breaking a sweat. Are we to believe SloJo is Obama on steroids? Democrats have figured out the formula to win, sitting at home. If this was by fraud, better find out now. Or forever cling to defeat.

    412. Janz says:

      I keep thinking about Biden bragging about the democrats having created one of the most extensive, inclusive voter fraud organizations in the history of American politics. It seems he knew he didn’t have to work for the vote, so he didn’t. He followed up during one of his anemic rallies that he didn’t need their votes. Looking back, there were definitely hints this was not going to be a “fair and square election.”

    413. VictrC says:

      Sorry guys

      The nationwide Lockdown and COVID caused the turnout for Biden that it did, because Liberals didn’t have to actually do anything to cheat.

      Does anyone in the world think that if they had to show up and vote that Biden would have gotten this many votes. No way. Never. The Dems took advantage of 250K deaths to win an election.

      They won’t have that in 2024.

      Also, you are all underestimating how devastating socialism really is. I lived it, saw it, fought it. Americans won’t tolerate it for long, and if we keep reaching out to the working class we will see more minorities getting off of the Liberal plantation and becoming conservatives.

    414. Rudy G. says:

      This is urgent! I need two people from Georgia. Well dressed, well spoken, and at least one woman and/or one black.

      You just need to read the script. You will say that you are an election worker in Fulton County or Cobb County and that you were coached to fill in Joe Biden’s name on blank ballots. That’s all for now. Please this is very important.

      The traitor SOS is going to certify the results tomorrow. Your testimony will delay the certification and help me file a lawsuit which eventually will be won when we go in front of our friends at the US Supreme Court.

      Please reply right away. Thank you! 4 more years!

    415. eriepa says:

      Just get Stacey Abrams -she counts as two people-covers both the women, and the black.

    416. eriepa says:

      Oh , I forgot, in her case especially, chomp chomp.

    417. eriepa says:

      OOps strach that recommendation, you wanted someone well dressed and well spoken-my mistake.

    418. phoenixrisen says:

      Mercy, the trolls were unhinged today. If you think it is bad now, wait until the Supreme Court strikes the certifications of certain states and then we get a 12th Amendment electoral vote of state legislatures voting a 2nd term for Trump.

    419. Roger says:

      janz: I’m not fond of Biden. But you really don’t believe that Biden was creating the most extensive Voter Fraud organization to do fraud, do you? It was an organization to fight against potential fraud. It’s just silly to bring up these things.

    420. Roger says:

      Pitchaboy: I live in an area that is mostly Democrats. They were more motivated that I’ve ever seen them to vote this year. Who they were voting against was way more important than who they were voting for. Biden being a non-entity was actually helpful, I think. I’m not surprised by the turnout on both sides.

    421. MikeP says:

      Phoenix

      I do not know if because I am originally from Oklahoma, however I totally agree you. I do believe that that election fraud will be reveal in court and correct response by the Supreme Court will resolve the issue. We need to stop the fraudulent voting practice now.

    422. MikeP says:

      Bedlam series is this Saturday. My wife and I will need to go to separate parts of the house. She is OSU and I OU.

    423. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Are you sad you’re going to miss out on OU’s annual beat down in the college football playoffs this year?

    424. Cash Cow TM says:

      Just finished watching the whole hour and a half news conference with Rudy, Sidney Powell, etc.

      Thought they did a good job.
      Should have been eye opening for the public who watched it.

      Big beatdown of the MSM for their biased reporting and big tech censorship of news.

      I fear for the lives of these people at the front of showing how much fraud there was in this election.

    425. Cash Cow TM says:

      When asked by one of the reporters present about is it true that a server in Germany that counts the votes in the Nov. 3 U.S. election was seized by U.S> authorities…Sidney Powell said yes it is true… “But we don’t know if the good guys got it, or the bad guys.”
      ##################################
      One of the scariest statement of the whole 90 minute press conference.

    426. lisab says:

      “But we don’t know if the good guys got it, or the bad guys.”
      ——————–

      that means the bad guys got it

    427. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      It should be remembered that after Ronald Reagan lost to Ford in the Republican primary in 1976, it was felt that Reagan’s political career had ended, and that he was too old to run in the future. He subsequently went on to win the 1980 election and become one of the nation’s most admired presidents.

    428. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      I was skeptical, but this could become a competitive race:

      “OAKLAND — San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulconer said Thursday he is “seriously considering” a Republican challenge to Gov. Gavin Newsom, seizing on the governor’s recent mistakes and saying the Democratic executive has failed the state in the Covid-19 crisis.

      “We need leadership — right now,” Faulconer told POLITICO on Thursday. “People are angry … and rightfully so.”

      Faulconer, a moderate Republican in his final weeks as San Diego mayor, argues that Newsom has set California on a dangerous economic path. Business owners are frustrated by a “continued shifting” of mandates, “open and closing, open and closing every other month,” he said.”

      It appears the Republicans have gained three congressional seats in California, and am hearing a lot of complaints about Newsom.

    429. Country Dick Montana says:

      On one side I see optimism that things will swing back on the other I see a hard realism that the DEMs have figured out how to win going forward. I am in the later group. The US has changed irrevocably for whatever reason. We will continue drifting left at varying rates depending on the level of DEM control at any time.

      We will also continue to be split until the older ones of us die off. That may change if we are attacked, but it would only be short term. Widspread economic collapse or civil unrest could leave to a split of urban and rural areas.

      For those who think we will vote ourselves out of socialism, it won’t happen. History shows that.socualism and intrusive government ends only one way

    430. CamRep says:

      Today will be the day, people!

      The trolls will be out in force, so be wary!

      Know that they will soon be begging for His mercy! Our Glorious President will give them NONE!

      The evidence is coming out like a fire hose, and the world will see it TODAY!

      My sources tell me the Supreme Court is racing back to do as our founders intended, and overturn the results of this “election.” The world will see all the irrefutable evidence, and then the arrests of the Dimpcratic criminals shall begin!

      People….we have a VIDEO of a blurred image moving across a screen at a polling place in Butte, Montana. You don’t have to be a genius to see this for what is is—the Ghost of Hugo Chavez, installing software on the Official Election Computers!!

      The video was found at a DNC safehouse in Kuala Lumpur. Our military has it in its possession! The Media won’t let them show it, but there is no need—we know what is on it!!!

      The Patriots in the Republican Party also know, and they will certify the rightful reelection of Our Leader, Donald Jesophophat Trump!!!

    431. Country Dick Montana says:

      Dude, get help. Your side won. That fact that you feel it necessary to troll here is indicative ofa pretty sad and lonely life.

      Your life isn’t changing regardless of who is in power. You may feel better that others are dragged down to your level. But at the end of the day you will still have nothing. And even you know that.

    432. Gordon Allen says:

      I agree that the scariest part of what Powell said was she wasn’t sure whether the good guys had the server or the bad guys. Trump firing Esper as Sec of Defense sure looks like he was viewed as one of the bad guys.

    433. jason says:

      That’s how we end up with war criminal GWB in 2000 instead of Pat Buchanan.”

      GWB was Governor of Texas, hardly a war criminal.’

      Pat Buchanan was already a flaming racist and anti-semitic kook.

      Be gla we ended up with GWVB.

    434. jason says:

      Camp Rep is out of new material too.

      We have sad, pathetic trolls.

      Hopefully we will have better trolls as I hear they plan to revamp the entire troll program.

    435. jason says:

      PA, MI, GA are goners. DJT had massive turnout but was taken out. Question is by VBM for real or by fraud. If they get away with it this time, game over.”

      VBM was the vehicle for the fraud.

      There were millions of ballots floating around, and no real control when they were counted.

    436. jason says:

      On one side I see optimism that things will swing back on the other I see a hard realism that the DEMs have figured out how to win going forward. I am in the later group. The US has changed irrevocably for whatever reason. We will continue drifting left at varying rates depending on the level of DEM control at any time.

      We will also continue to be split until the older ones of us die off. That may change if we are attacked, but it would only be short term. Widspread economic collapse or civil unrest could leave to a split of urban and rural areas.

      For those who think we will vote ourselves out of socialism, it won’t happen. History shows that.socualism and intrusive government ends only one way”

      Yep, that is exactly right and that is why on Inauguration Day forward I will no longer be a part of any of it.

    437. JeffS says:

      Bedwetters, remember: RBG did not hang up her robe in vain!

      Hang tough!

    438. jason says:

      “Faulconer, a moderate Republican in his final weeks as San Diego mayor, ..”

      Was he a radical the rest of the time?

    439. jason says:

      I don’t see SCOTUS doing the right thing here.

      I hope I am wrong.

    440. jaichind says:

      With a lot of NY vote still outstanding it is now a certainty that the Biden’s vote share will exceed Obama 2012 and Trump’s vote share will be below Romney 2012.

      Most of this is due to CA CO AZ GA MA MD TX WA. Most of these states do not matter as long as the GOP can keep TX and somehow keep AZ and GA competitive the EC map is a lot better for the GOP than in 2012 given that that GOP is clearly in the hunt for the Midwest. The next Dem candidate is unlikely to be an Old White Man and that will clearly trigger a swing against the Dems in the Midwest.

    441. Hugh says:

      The scariest part about whether the good guys or the bad guys got it is that I’m not sure if there are any good guys. I no longer trust the FBI I no longer trust the CIA and I no longer trust much of the leader ship in the military. Everything has been politicized. Because of the work I did I already knew the dol the FDIC the SEC and to a lesser extent the IRS had all become political tools of the left. It will not change because no conservative could work in one of those organizations. They have no chance. It’s getting pretty grim out there because I believe that is now what is happening with our large corporations.

    442. Country Dick Montana says:

      The SCOTUS will not get involved. The DC Establishment has been trying to reject Trump for 4 years. They have done that now. The GOP and DEMs can go back to pretending that there is a difference between them. There is not. Both sides want power over us.

      I am simply going along with whoever.

    443. Hugh says:

      By the way requiring bars and liquor stores to check IDs, isn’t that disenfranchising minorities?

    444. jason says:

      Trump already has half a million more votes in NY than Romney, and is at 42% vs. Romney in 2016.

      Let’s see where it ends up, but there were 7.3 million votes in 2016 cast in NY in 2016 and they have already counted 7 million in 2020.

    445. jason says:

      35% for Romney.

      I did read where there are a lot of NYC votes still out so it is possible Trump’s percentage will drop, although he did better than Romney in all NYC counties.

    446. Gordon Allen says:

      By now I’m inclined to agree with you about SCOTUS( no action). Since there were 4 votes ( PA case)initially,that means Barrett must be siding with Roberts; a very bad omen for the future. I had higher hopes for her.

    447. jason says:

      Looks like Tenney has exactly 200 vote lead with all votes counted, now it’s time for fraud to kick in and for the Dems to “find” some ballots.

    448. jaichind says:

      459 460. Just to be clear. When I say vote share I mean overall national vote share. Even if Trump will outperform his 2016 and Romeny 2012 numbers the outstanding vote are still in Biden’s favor in absolute terms.

      Given the current national popular vote right now is about the same as 2012 the final popular vote will for sure be more in Dem’s favor than in 2012.

    449. Hugh says:

      What a disgrace. How can it still be votes outstanding anywhere?

    450. jason says:

      Tenney sounds slightly more confident

      Tenney said in a statement Thursday afternoon that she’s confident that she will prevail.

      “Now that every vote has been counted, we have maintained the vote lead and are poised to come out victorious,” Tenney said. “This process has been long, but it is critical that every legal vote be counted and accounted for. Now that it is done, I am confident that I will be certified the winner soon.”

      Luke Jackson, a spokesman for Brindisi, said the election is too close to call.

      “As today’s numbers show, Congressman Brindisi continues to gain meaningful ground,” Jackson said. “With a margin this close, New York voters deserve to have their voices heard. Once every legal ballot is counted and certified, the people will decide who goes to Congress. The stakes are too high and the margin too close to rush to judgement.”

      https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2020/11/rep-anthony-brindisi-closes-to-within-300-votes-of-claudia-tenney-in-undecided-house-race.html

    451. jason says:

      459 460. Just to be clear. When I say vote share I mean overall national vote share. Even if Trump will outperform his 2016 and Romeny 2012 numbers the outstanding vote are still in Biden’s favor in absolute terms.

      Given the current national popular vote right now is about the same as 2012 the final popular vote will for sure be more in Dem’s favor than in 2012.”

      Not IF, Trump DID outperform his vote in 2016 and decimated Romney’s vote in 2012. With more Trump votes to come in, this trend will only continue.

      I am not that sure Trump’s percentage will fall below Romney’s 35%. Let’s see.

    452. jason says:

      I am talking about NY since that was your point.

    453. jason says:

      And by the way, nationally, Trump ALREADY has 13 million more votes than Romney in 2012.

      Since Biden’s numbers probably included a few million votes obtained by fraud, I would say Trump easily outperformed Romney.

    454. jaichind says:

      Just to restate my point; The state with a lot of votes outstanding is NY. Trump clearly did better in 2020 in NY than 2016. Still the outstanding vote in NY will lean Biden since most of it is VBM. With the current national vote share about the same as 2012 it is certain that Biden-Trump gap will be slightly greater than the Obama-Romney gap in 2012.

    455. jason says:

      And some people are optimistic about where we are heading…

      “Arizona College Is Scaring Kids Into Sending Cardboard Versions of Themselves Home for Turkey Day”

    456. Meldrim says:

      #466, I’m pretty sure that he meant that Trump’s *national* vote percentage (currently around 47.2%) will decrease when the rest of NY’s votes are counted and that he will end up with a lower *national* vote percentage than what Romney got. I don’t think that anyone can claim that Trump will end up with a lower vote percentage in NY than what Romney got.

    457. jason says:

      With the current national vote share about the same as 2012 it is certain that Biden-Trump gap will be slightly greater than the Obama-Romney gap in 2012.”

      Since VBM was rife with fraud, we will never know if this is true or not.

    458. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #465- jason
      Here is an adjunct article to yours about the preliminary results in NY CD-22. This article claims Tennt’s(R) lead is 320.

      “CNY Central has spent all week checking in with election boards in those eight counties, getting updates on the race. As of Thursday night, we found Rep. Brindisi had picked up 42,738 votes through the counting of absentee and affidavit ballots, while Tenney had picked up 14,636 votes.

      Right now the total Tenney leads 154,519 votes to Rep. Brindisi’s 154,199 votes.

      From what we’ve been told in those calls, there are still outstanding ballots. We last got an update from Herkimer County on Wednesday. They said there are still ballots left to be counted, but they did not have an exact number.

      In other counties, votes are being contested by both sides in a case before Judge Scott DelConte in the Oswego County Supreme Court.

      In Chenango County, the absentee totals were made available Thursday. We were told ballots were being contested there. Madison County also told us there was a pending court case there involving some of the counted ballots.”

      https://cnycentral.com/news

    459. jaichind says:

      On the flip side the Dems always assumed the can swamp the GOP in a higu turnout election. Given the GOP won the congressional vote in AZ GA PA and WI a generic GOP candidate would have won the EC vs a generic Dem in a high turnout election.

    460. Billy Joel says:

      RADICAL LEFTISTS BRIAN KEMP AND BRAD RAFFENSPERGER WANT TO ELECT CRAZY WARNOCK AND LIDDLE JON OSSOFF TO THE SENATE. UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS NO STOPPING THEM! CONSERVATIVES MUST #BOYCOTT THE GEORGIA #GASEN RUNOFFS IN PROTEST OF THE RIGGED VOTE MACHINES! #KAG #StopTheSteaI

    461. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #474
      Way too simplistic! Your extrapolation misses many other salient factors.

    462. jason says:

      Sheep, your article seems to be with older news than the one I posted.

      Herkimer only has 8 ballots, that won’t make a difference.

      There are several hundred contested ballot in Oneida and Broome.

      It sounds like Brindisi will pretty much have to win all of them, or at least have his votes accepted and Tenney’s rejected.

      I don’t know anything about this judge, sounds like he will decided who goes to Congress.

    463. jason says:

      On the flip side the Dems always assumed the can swamp the GOP in a higu turnout election. Given the GOP won the congressional vote in AZ GA PA and WI a generic GOP candidate would have won the EC vs a generic Dem in a high turnout election.”

      This makes zero sense to me, wild extrapolation with no basis in fact.

    464. Billy Joel II says:

      BIDEN IS NOT EVEN ALIVE, A STAND IN HAS BEEN USED IN HIS PLACE. KAMALA HARRIS HAS TO DECLARE HIM UNFIT FOR OFFICE IMMEDIATELY AND ASSUME THE REIGNS OF POWER AND IMPOSE A MARXIST REGIME RIGHT AWAY. #STOP THE IMPERSONATION

    465. Billy Idol says:

      REBEL YELL!

      Patriots, we need to rebel. The Confederacy lives. Succeed from the Union, Rebels! The Confederacy shall rise again.

      #REBEL YELL!

    466. jason says:

      I think this is the most updated result for NY-22.

      Tenney up by only 200.

      https://redstate.com/election/2020-results

    467. jaichind says:

      Net 2012-2020 GOP-Dem gap swing (so far). NY still has a bunch of votes outstanding so the 2020 gain over 2012 will be smaller.

      1) UT and MA is because Romney is not on the ticket.
      2) TX is because of further reduction of the Bush influence ?
      3) AZ CO and WA shows the shadow of CA migrants loom large.
      4) GA I still have no idea what took there. State level polling were way off everywhere EXCEPT for GA where if anything Biden outperformed polls
      5) Greater DC area alarming but I guess is part of the inteligencia establishment going all in for Dems
      6) Massive gains for GOP in areas where non-college Whites dominate which I guess is the flip side of 5)

      Overall 0.03%

      Utah -27.47%
      Texas -10.19%
      Massachusetts -9.94%
      Arizona -9.34%
      Colorado -8.14%
      Georgia -8.07%
      Maryland -6.99%
      Kansas -6.46%
      California -6.34%
      Virginia -6.16%
      Washington -4.47%
      Alaska -3.89%
      Oregon -3.85%
      D. C. -3.00%
      Nebraska -2.70%
      Connecticut -2.69%
      New Hampshire -1.80%
      Idaho -0.92%
      North Carolina -0.69%
      New Mexico -0.64%
      Illinois -0.54%
      Oklahoma -0.46%
      Delaware -0.35%
      Vermont 0.19%
      Minnesota 0.59%
      South Carolina 1.21%
      Louisiana 1.40%
      New Jersey 1.66%
      Wyoming 2.56%
      Montana 2.73%
      Tennessee 2.94%
      Kentucky 3.27%
      Alabama 3.51%
      Arkansas 3.92%
      Pennsylvania 4.20%
      Florida 4.23%
      Nevada 4.29%
      Mississippi 5.03%
      Indiana 5.86%
      Missouri 6.21%
      Wisconsin 6.32%
      Maine 6.58%
      Michigan 6.69%
      Rhode Island 6.86%
      South Dakota 8.14%
      Ohio 11.14%
      West Virginia 12.24%
      Hawaii 13.24%
      New York 13.54% (lots of votes not counted)
      North Dakota 13.73%
      Iowa 14.01%

    468. dblaikie says:

      Good morning fellow posters. I am glad that Tenney is going to pull it out.

      The drama continues in Michigan where Norman Shrinkle, one of the two GOP members on the State Canvassing Board is going to vote for a delay in the Certification of the Michigan Election. Here is a quote from the Hill:

      “I do think with all of the potential problems, if any of them are true, an audit is appropriate,” Norman Shinkle said in a telephone interview with The Washington Post. “I take one step at a time, and if we can get more information, why not?”

      Shinkle reportedly cited among his concerns a since-debunked claim from President Trump and his allies that Dominion Voting Systems, the Colorado-based manufacturer of voting machines, deleted thousands of votes that had been cast in favor of the president.

      “If Dominion was fudging votes, that’s a serious problem,” he said. “If it’s true. I don’t know. I have to be convinced of it. That’s why the audit makes sense.”

      The Hill reporters, “since-debunked” is a laugh. Here is a link to the article: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/526818-michigan-election-official-leaning-towards-audit-delay-in-vote

    469. jason says:

      jaiching doesn’t understand the concept of garbage in, garbage out.

    470. jason says:

      The judge seems to be from the area and might not be a flaming liberal, although a Democrat.

      “I am very proud to have the support of the Democratic, Conservative and Independence Parties.

      Personally, my wife of 22 years, Heather, and our four children run a family farm. We raise Hereford beef cattle, heritage sheep and honeybees. My oldest daughter is a freshman at Cornell, studying in the Ag School. I am an avid hunter, hiker and American History enthusiast. I am an active member of the First United Methodist Church of Oswego and have been very involved in my community for many years, serving as director of the Port City Educational Foundation and as volunteer for both the Oswego County 4-H Program and the Oswego County Fair.”

    471. Hugh says:

      I’m guessing he doesn’t want his family harassed by lunatics. However maybe he has the courage to stand up to the mob. Sounds like a decent guy.

    472. jason says:

      Sounds like he has strong ties to the community, might decide not be overly partisan.’

      Hope springs eternal.

    473. jason says:

      Oh, for sure he will be pressured by the mob.

    474. jason says:

      At least his bio is not about Dem talking points.

    475. jason says:

      In another Facebook post, a spokeswoman for the Reno-Sparks Indian Colony, Bethany Sam, appears on video inside a polling place offering T-shirts, stickers, jewelry, and thousands of dollars in gift cards to voters. Some of these items appear to be part of a raffle, which Sam says voters can enter in person or by emailing or texting a picture of their absentee ballot, while other items are offered to anyone who shows up in person and votes.

      Sam appears in another video wearing a Biden-Harris campaign mask with the Biden campaign bus behind her, talking about how important Native votes are to “swing” Washoe County (Biden won the county, which includes Reno, by less than 12,000 votes). In another video, she tells viewers about “Biden swag” available at a GOTV event, along with free Biden cookies. All these videos appear on the official Facebook page of the Reno-Sparks Indian Colony. (I called Sam to ask about this, and about the illegal raffles, but she never called me back.)

      Raffling off gift cards—the equivalent of a cash giveaway—appears to have been widespread among Native American communities in Nevada. The Nevada Native Vote Project’s Facebook page lists dozens of gift card winners by name, all of them rewarded simply for their vote, as well as advertisements for the raffles and information on how to enter.”

    476. jason says:

      Dominion:

      In 2014 & 2015 they donated $50,000 to the Clinton Foundation.”

      Why?

    477. jason says:

      Evidently in IA the Dem tried to get the procedure on how votes are counted changed for the recount, and it was denied.

      Still, the potential for “finding” 50 votes for her seems pretty easy if you are inclined to do so.

    478. jason says:

      Basically we are down to Garcia, Tenney and Meeks.

      If Rs can win all three they will net 12 seats, I think.

    479. jason says:

      Too bad 2 seats were stolen in NC.

      wes, can they be “recovered” in the next redistricting by the GOP dominated legislature?

    480. LivintheDream says:

      Plus Valadao makes a net 13 and 213 Rs in the House.

    481. phoenixrisen says:

      One thing is for certain. In Georgia, Raffensberger and Kemp’s political careers are dead. They will get primaried and lose by large margins in 2022.

    482. jason says:

      Do the Fauci haters have any problem with his speech at the Coronavirus presser yesterday?

      “We are not talking about shutting down the country and we are not talking about lockdowns”.

      Robbie hardest hit.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcNOJent6Ts

    483. jason says:

      One thing is for certain. In Georgia, Raffensberger and Kemp’s political careers are dead. They will get primaried and lose by large margins in 2022.”

      One can only hope.

      They had the chance to do what was right. They failed miserably.

    484. hugh says:

      So in GA in 2016 they rejected almost 6% of their absentee ballots. This time .15% and interestingly in 2018 .15% if the SOS is to be believed. But historically GA has very little VBM. Less than 300K in 2016. Why are republicans so afraid to fight?

    485. Gordon Allen says:

      If someone posted this earlier my apologies. I heard Jenny Ellis this morning on Marie Barteroma’s show while driving.
      I believe she all but said to present the evidence they summarized yesterday would take a trial of weeks ( which I understand).
      Her reference to Constitutional checks,and the 1800 election (as an example)made clear to me:1 there’s no hope the state vote totals will be reversed as such by litigation,if only because of time 2 they think they can establish a high likelihood there was massive, planned fraud 3 they’re hoping the state legislatures will as a result refuse to certify the results by the meeting of the EC,and seat their own slate,or more likely none, leaving nobody with 270 Electoral Votes. Thus going to I House. Sure a long shot,but ” constitutional.
      The complexity of potential litigation effectively eliminates litigation before December 14 as a likely solution. If anyone replays the interview tell me if you differ.
      She definitely believes there is sufficient evidence though of huge systemic fraud. I just wish there was more time for this to be publicly fought out in a court of law ( and thus the public at large)

    486. jason says:

      Forgot Valadao, he seems the most likely to prevail.

    487. WizardofCozz says:

      501,

      That tells me Hugh, that they started this stuff in 2018 and just upped the numbers in 2020 to get them over the hump.

    488. jason says:

      Why are republicans so afraid to fight?”

      Gutless wonders.

    489. jason says:

      If Loeffler and Purdue want to win, they better run on the election was stolen meme and one way to get to the bottom of this massive fraud is to elect us, a Dem senate will sweep it under the rug.

      It could be a persuasive argument for those Rs in GA who are disappointed at the GOP Governor and SOS for essentially disenfranchising them and might feel discouraged to vote in the runoff.

    490. Annie says:

      Wow. Dems need to be in jail.

      The Ramsland affidavit is part of the Trump team’s case relating to Dominion. In paragraph 9, the affidavit states:

      “Based on the significant anomalies and red flags that we have observed, we believe there is a significant probability that election results have been manipulated within the Dominion/Premier system in Michigan.”

      What are those anomalies and red flags? Paragraph 11 explains:

      “Another statistical red flag is evident is evident in the number of votes cast compared to the number of voters in some precincts. A preliminary analysis using data obtained from the Michigan Secretary of State pinpoints a statistical anomaly so far outside of every statistical norm as to be virtually impossible. … There were at least 19 precincts where the Presidential Votes Cast compared to the Estimated Voters based on Reported Statistics exceeded 100%.”

    491. PresidentPaul! says:

      The Loeffler race doesn’t actually matter though. First off she is running 3-4 points behind perdue.
      Second off, even if she loses, the GOP can win the seat back in 2022
      Third, there isn’t that much difference between having 52 vs 51 seats vs there is enormous difference between having 51 and 50 seats.

      And since Perdue is running ahead of her, putting the majority of money into his race is the only logical choice.

    492. Country Dick Montana says:

      We need to get over this. Absolutely nothing is going to happen. Nobody is going to jail, except perhaps us eventually. Despite what some posters think, there is a large permanent administrative deep state that sees Trump and his supporters as thhreats to the status quo and thier power. This includes Democrats and Republicans.

      It is over. They won. Now let’s get on with our lives as best we can until we are rounded up.

    493. PresidentPaul! says:

      People in Iowa usually don’t cheat though. Just saying….

    494. jason says:

      Bunu has convinced me to send more money to Loeffler.

      Thanks.

    495. jason says:

      It is over. They won. Now let’s get on with our lives as best we can until we are rounded up.”

      I don’t disagree, but I will stay involved until the GA runoffs. If the GOP can win them, we get a brief reprieve from the most radical parts of Biden’s agenda.

    496. jason says:

      Chemtrail Ward says she will turn over every rock to uncover fraud in AZ.

      For once I will give her credit for her willingness to fight, certainly a better attitude than gutless wonder Ducey, but unfortunately I think she is too much of a moron to actually accomplish anything.

    497. PresidentPaul! says:

      I actually donated to perdue this morning as this is the more important race of the two.

      I hope loffler wins, but I would expect her to probably lose her race.

    498. Country Dick Montana says:

      Problem is Jason, that we are depending on Mitt, Murk, Sasse and to a lesser extent Collins to hold the line with regard to Biden. With Trump out of the picture there will probably be a few more “get along” senators.

      Naw, let’s pull the band aid off and see if people will really be against it in 2022.

    499. Annie says:

      507. “Annie”… I agree with what you post, but you are using my handle again, which seems odd to me. I have been posting on here since 2004, from CA. Maybe think of adding something to your “Annie” such as an initial.

    500. jaichind says:

      501. Is this because GA has this business of “curing” ballots like we have in NY ?

    501. PresidentPaul! says:

      #515
      Wrong. Getting a majority means that the filibuster stays intact.

      They can vote however they want while Rand will filibuster things or even better Mitch won’t even put bad things on the floor to begin with.

    502. Country Dick Montana says:

      PP you are just delaying the inevitable. Let’s see it now. I don’t know what you are afraid of.

    503. John says:

      BOOM!

      A day AFTER the election, Biden receives a dump of 134,886 votes at 6:31AM!

      This is 100% criminal and so out in the open. Dems said they would do Fraud and that’s exactly what they did!

    504. Chicon says:

      504 – Hello, Wiz. How did the Dems manage to lose 10-12 House seats with the fix being in?

    505. mnw says:

      507 “Annie”

      I agree with the original Annie– please change your screen name slightly so we can distinguish between the two different posters.

      (You could add “Oakley,” for example.)

    506. Chicon says:

      540 – no link, no Boom!

    507. mnw says:

      jason

      One of those “morons” who graduated from medical school & has been practicing medicine for decades– unlike really smart, accomplished people such as yourself. /s!

    508. CamRep says:

      Boom! We have a smoking gun, people!

      Sources tell me the Trump team has interviewed a woman who got a “cold chill” when she drove by a polling place in an undisclosed location on Election Day. She’s absolutely sure this was a paranormal being, most likely the ghost of Hugo Chávez, there to install the fraudulent software on vote counting machines.

      We don’t need “evidence” that this election was stolen from Our Leader—we know in our bones it was—but stories like this will soon be in the courts, and all will be revealed!

      Trump saves!

    509. Country Dick Montana says:

      521- Fraud was committed primarily in the cities and more specifically in just a few in swing states. Not a whole lot of GOP votes on a good day, so those seats weren’t going to flip anyway.

    510. mnw says:

      Bunu

      You’re full of skit.

    511. CamRep says:

      Mods—Please ban from this site those who dare question His victory. And pass along their IP addresses to the Trump Campaign. They will be dealt with for their TREASON!

    512. eriepa says:

      523 – Easy all it takes is the big city metro areas. Look at Philly -the congressional districts are all safe dem-what differnece if they win by 150.000 or 200,000 votes, its no contest. But add those numbers to a state wide contest for Pres makes all the difference. Vote fraud in Philly has no effect on my congressional district race in Northwest PA.

    513. Dylan says:

      At this point, I honestly don’t care if or that Trump’s lawyers don’t have actual compelling evidence (they most likely don’t) of the fraud. It may be they are stalling while they try and get
      some. We live in a Soviet media state that cares nothing of “evidence” and so even if there was a smoking gun, it’s not going to be accepted.

      Meanwhile, yes, we all should have bought Bitcoin. It looks like it’s just too late,

    514. WizardofCozz says:

      521,

      Chicon,

      Well the easy answer is that most of the cheating took place in large cities that wouldn’t of even had those down ballot house races on their ballots. Also I think (my opinion) that the pause in the early mornings, the day after the election was because they realized they need more votes than they had, which is why you saw so many ballots with just Joe Biden marked and no one else.

    515. Chicon says:

      CDM – the main allegation is that Dominion software simply switched some votes remotely. Clean and witness-free. Why not flip enough for Senate control and a more workable House majority?

    516. John says:

      That right. All the fraud came from the cities. Just look at the precincts in Detroit. Over 90 precints had more votes than there people living there. Criminal and treasonous!!

    517. Country Dick Montana says:

      I am not really following the Domion thing although voting without a paper trail pretty much invites fraud. I think what happened was just good old fashioned ballot box stuffing. Again easy to do with lots of loose VBM forms.

      Anyway, it is over and I would prefer we go head long into the abyss so the voters can see what they seem to want.

    518. WizardofCozz says:

      Jason, that’s exactly what most here know to be true, Robbie to say that’s not evidence in 3, 2, 1?

    519. Dylan says:

      The best citation to what seemed like evidence was Rudy’s statement that in Wayne County, in the middle of the night a big truck pulled up. The poll workers thought it was a food truck and went outside to get fed but .. . .it was a truck full of hundreds of thousands of votes and they just got fed into the machine. Well, that sounds bad but who knows if anything can be corroborated and in a trial no less?!? whatever. Our election system is so broken. Biden doesn’t even want the job at this point judging from his energy level and demeanor.

    520. jason says:

      504 – Hello, Wiz. How did the Dems manage to lose 10-12 House seats with the fix being in?”

      You are mixing apples and oranges.

      Some of those seats were not in swing states where the fraud was most likely to happen, or in states where the VBM was counted before election night.

      CA and NY and NM come to mind. FL. MN.

      Second, it has already been shown that much of the fraud concerns votes that only have Biden marked on the ballots, suggesting it was a rush job after the number of votes needed was known.

      So I don’t think the congressional results in any way contradict the claims of massive fraud.

    521. Chicon says:

      Also, according to Redstate, the big steal happened in areas outside the cities (even in areas Trump won). This is a link to the author. Click on the stories starting with “Excuse me…”.

      https://redstate.com/scotthounsell

    522. jason says:

      ne of those “morons” who graduated from medical school & has been practicing medicine for decades”

      Breaking

      mnw thinks people with medical degrees can’ be morons.

      Who wouda thunk?

    523. jason says:

      can’t.

      What about Kris Kobach. He went to Harvard! Like Obama!

      Can he be a moron?

    524. jason says:

      If Biden doesn’t get briefings another 250k lives will be lost.

      Our independent MSM:

      NBC’s Kristen Welker: “You have said that lives could be lost if you don’t start getting briefings from the Trump administration and now here we are, more than 250,000 lives could be lost. Given that, how do you justify not taking legal action to get the briefings that you say are critical, that you say you need?”

    525. Robbie says:

      According to the guys at Powerline, the evidence Sydney Powell claimed showed fraud in Michigan was, in fact, data from Minnesota. Whoops.

      https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/11/do-trumps-lawyers-know-what-they-are-doing.php

    526. jason says:

      I guess according to mnw, if you go to law school you can’t be a moron either.

      Hundreds of elected Dems all over the country want to thank him for his confidence.

    527. Chicon says:

      538 – “Second, it has already been shown that much of the fraud concerns votes that only have Biden marked on the ballots, suggesting it was a rush job after the number of votes needed was known.”

      Where has this been “shown”?

      Why didn’t the Dems get 50% in both GA Senate races, where it is alleged massive fraud occurred. They only disbelieved some polls? They only thought to cheat in one statewide race?

    528. jason says:

      Robbie has moved on from hair dye?

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    529. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 20, 2020 at 10:49 am
      Chemtrail Ward says she will turn over every rock to uncover fraud in AZ.

      – My guess is she’ll spend lots and lots of time turning over rocks located in the studio where she appears on Lou Dobbs’ show.

    530. Ivanka T says:

      Jason, what is that smell? It certainly wasn’t me.

    531. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 20, 2020 at 11:34 am
      Robbie has moved on from hair dye?

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

      – Rudy’s performance was an embarrassment. Whatever evidence he may have had to show the world was lost in the bizarre ranting and raving of a man who accused Hugo Chavez of playing a role in vote fraud. I guess it doesn’t matter to you that Chavez has been dead since 2013. Did Chavez work from the grave to help George Soros steal this?

    532. dblaikie says:

      The behind the scenes gamesmanship continues. Both the Michigan Senate Majority Leader and the Speaker of the House are flying into Washington to meet Trump. The fake news reported last night that the meeting was not going to take place with the usual comments about how nuts Trump is not to listen to them and concede. But low and behold a bunch of crazy activists swarmed the the Majority Leader this morning as he was leaving DFW to go to Washington. According to Cotto/Gottfried the House Speaker (smart person) flew to Washington under the radar by private plane.

      Once again, we see fake news being fake. Once again we stuff going on that just doesn’t happen in elections. Once again we see posters on this site saying “just accept it and move on.” Sorry but as I watch events occur and as I see the GOP establishment, like the Turtle, not walking somberly over to the Oval Office to tell Trump “just accept it and move on” why should I?

      From my reading of events there is a real chance that the Board of Canvassers in Michigan on Monday will not certify the election. If that happens all of you “move on and accept it” people are going to have to give me more reasons why, “I should just accept it and move on?”

      Because I have a feeling that the real question is when and if, I am a realist I know it is a large if, the first domino is going to fall and a State won’t certify, or Trump will win an important case in Federal (not state) Court, or if the Supreme Court finally takes up the Pennsylvania Case, or if the hand in Milwaukee reveals lots of invalid votes. If one of those falls, I suspect you are going to see lots of dominos fall. Or to put it another way, this thing is going to collapse like a house of cards.

      OH by the way, to give this post credence here is the link about the Mi. Senate Majority Leader. https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/shirkey-swarmed-by-activists-at-airport-before-flying-to-meet-with-trump

    533. Annie says:

      522. mnw…Thank you – Just keep in mind, I’m the one from CA, family from SE MO…posting here for 16 years. The other “Annie” sounds a bit like Tina, but you’d think if Tina, she’d just post as herself.

    534. jason says:

      Where has this been “shown”?”

      Numerous reports show a large number of “Biden only ballots”

      “They only thought to cheat in one statewide race?”

      Why not? Is that your argument? If Dems didn’t cheat in every race they couldn’t have cheated in one of them?

      Wow, great argument.

    535. Robbie says:

      It’s time for Trump to wrap this up. Does it have to be today? No, not at all. Should it be soon? Yes. Certainly by Thanksgiving. Dragging this out until 11:59 AM on January 20, 2021 would be the most ridiculous thing he’s done.

      So far his legal effort has had a Blazing Saddles feel to it. Dripping hair dye, quoting My Cousin Vinnie, the ghost of Hugo Chavez, and mixing up data from MN and MI should give no one any reason to believe any of this will be successful.

      If Trump wants to run again in 2024, go ahead and announce now. That way he can raise money and hold rallies for the next four years.

    536. Hugh says:

      I don’t get this argument that statistical evidence isn’t evidence. Let’s assume for a second that they historical rejection rate for vote by mail ballot‘s was 1% and in this election it goes up to 3% and Biden lost by half a percent does anyone think that that would not be considered evidence?

    537. jason says:

      Rudy’s performance was an embarrassment.”

      What is an embarrassment is your cult like sycophantic toady addiction to the MSM and to fake news.

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    538. jason says:

      I don’t get this argument that statistical evidence isn’t evidence. ”

      It actually IS evidence and is admissible.

    539. mnw says:

      jason

      You always confuse people you HATE (“deadenders!”) with being “morons”– because a “moron” is by definition a politician you HATE.

      I suspect Kobach & Ward would stand up fairly well to YOU in an IQ test– to say nothing of a life achievement comparison.

      Bunu

      Write off Loeffler because it’s SOOOO easy to unseat an incumbent DEM senator NEXT time, eh? Btw, do you think anyone here cares about your bitcoin obsession?

    540. CamRep says:

      I agree with jason.

      Don’t believe what you see and hear, people. Only believe what Trump says. We know He speaks the Truth.

      The only way to preserve our freedoms is to let Him rule over us!

    541. Robbie says:

      If people believe the Michigan legislature is going to overturn the results in the state and name a slate of electors that will vote for Trump, then I fear many are setting themselves up for some real disappointment.

      It’s not going to happen.

    542. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Happy Birthday to our President-Elect Biden!!

      May God Bless him and our Vice President Harris. Kamala will be our first female VP and first multi-racial VP. What a blessing to our country and what better way to show the true melting pot of the US than to have Kamala as the highest female executive in the history of our country.

    543. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 20, 2020 at 11:44 am
      Rudy’s performance was an embarrassment.”

      What is an embarrassment is your cult like sycophantic toady addiction to the MSM and to fake news.

      – This comment by Jason is the very definition of deflection.

      Rudy’s Blazing Saddles performance did Trump’s miniscule chances real harm yesterday.

      End of story.

    544. mnw says:

      552 Annie

      I knew exactly who you were when you posted about the other poster.
      There’s a poster at another blog who occasionally posts as me. I hate that.

    545. Hugo "Hugh" Chavez says:

      Did Chavez work from the grave to help George Soros steal this?

      Si senor! Con mi amigo Jorge Soros. My bien gracias. Ay dios mio.

    546. Hugh says:

      So let’s consider actual facts. The average vote by mail rejection rate in 2016 was 1%. It varies greatly among states. Georgia in 2016 was just under 6%. Also Georgia only processed about 300,000 vote by mail ballot’s. In 2018 George’s rejection rate per the Secretary of State so take it with a grain of salt water was .15%. That is the same rate as for 2020. However there was well over 1 million vote by mail ballot’s in 2020. George’s rejection rate went from just under 6% in the last presidential election to .15%. A rate that is five times less than the national average. That is statistical evidence. However will anything be done about it? I sort of doubt it. If the Republicans pulled this garbage the media would be all over it it would be thoroughly investigated and our candidate would lose. But with everything against us I have very little hope. Can we stop with that no evidence BS? There is plenty of evidence right in front of our noses.

    547. Gordon Allen says:

      Chicon. My understanding is is 450,000 votes or so over 3 states had only Biden marked. That’s either true or not. If true,and the timing of the counting of those ballots is sure suspicious. The fact ( if so) that they came AFTER the shutdown is circumstantial evidence of a high order. I’m sure some statistical evidence on this can be cleaned . It IS evidence,on which the trier
      of fact can rely on or not.
      The problem is there is no time for such trials. It, though,is not a matter of lack of evidence.

    548. dblaikie says:

      Robbie, sometimes your lack of knowledge is vast. I will try to explain this to you in simple terms.
      1. Will the Michigan Board of Canvassers Certify the election? As of now one of the two GOP members on the board of four says he will vote to delay the Certification.
      2. If they can’t certify by the deadline what slate of electors will be chosen by Michigan?
      3. This, stupid, is when the Legislature will get involved.

    549. jason says:

      And of course Rudy never said Hugo Chavez was involved in the 2020 election, that is another MSM and Robbie falsehood.

      He used the elections Chavez and Maduro stole as reference and background.

    550. Gordon Allen says:

      Interesting that Dominion failed to appear before a scheduled hearing before the Pennsylvania House of Representatives. According to Dana Perino they have nothing to hide,so what’s the problem? Aren’t they planning to sue for libel?

    551. jason says:

      suspect Kobach & Ward would stand up fairly well to YOU in an IQ test”

      I doubt it.

      They would certainly stand up well to you, though.

    552. jason says:

      Robbie two weeks ago.

      Show me the evidence.

      Robbie now.

      Ok, but this evidence won’t overturn the results.

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    553. WizardofCozz says:

      570,

      I disagree Jason, I think he has the moral compass of a flushed turd!!

    554. jason says:

      You always confuse people you HATE (“deadenders!”) with being “morons”– because a “moron” is by definition a politician you HATE.”

      Zzzzzz…. I think you are the one here who exhibits “hate” more than most.

      I don’t hate Ward and Kobach. I think they are deadender morons and I am happy their candidacies didn’t go anywhere. I am certainly grateful their policies are rejected by a vast majority of people in AZ and KS.

      Hate? No. I will leave that for morons like you.

    555. jason says:

      I disagree Jason, I think he has the moral compass of a flushed turd!!”

      We are going to have to agree to disagree on that one.

    556. WizardofCozz says:

      Jason Calvi
      @JasonCalvi
      Before the recount starts in Milwaukee County, the Trump campaign attorney asks that various ballots be set aside, including those of people who marked themselves as indefinitely confined, one of the exemptions of the state’s photo ID requirement. Thread on that issue below.

      Jason Calvi
      @JasonCalvi
      ·
      10m
      Replying to
      @JasonCalvi
      THREAD on indefinitely confined, which included 45,693 in Milwaukee County this election, a group of votes the Trump campaign wants set aside during the recount for observation and likely challenges.
      Quote Tweet
      Jason Calvi
      @JasonCalvi
      · Nov 18
      WISCONSIN RECOUNT: President @realDonaldTrump and @VP @Mike_Pence signed this request for the recount two days ago and an attorney submitted it in person this morning to @WI_Elections.

    557. jason says:

      Rudy’s Blazing Saddles performance did Trump’s miniscule chances real harm yesterday”

      LOL

      If Rudy had brought forth 100 people yesterday confessing to have committed fraud in favor of Biden does anyone doubt Robbie would be here saying that is not evidence and that they were lying?

    558. Chicon says:

      I guess they were so focused on getting rid of Trump and ensuring socialist control of the government they committed massive fraud across many states, but it never crossed their minds to get a solid House majority and control of the Senate so they could make control of the government permanent?

      Not really a solid argument….

      If the fraud was Chicago-style stuff aimed at just helping Joe, it all makes more sense. But if it’s a guy at a keyboard in Poco Logo, why not do it all?

    559. WizardofCozz says:

      Robbie is that MSM reporter reporting on how peaceful the riots are as the city burns down behind him!!! LOL

    560. jason says:

      Personally, I don’t see any R legislature presenting any slate of electors contrary to the certified votes of any state.

      Not that it is not legal, I just don’t think it is politically viable.

      The only way to reverse a state is to show enough illegally cast ballots to make a difference.

      I am sure there are enough of these ballots in GA, WI, MI, PA, AZ and NV. But discovering them in time is the challenge.

    561. WizardofCozz says:

      Cotto/Gottfried
      @CottoGottfried
      ·
      24s
      Palmer DID NOT SIGN the document of certification — if her signature is on the document, it was added without her consent.

    562. jason says:

      But if it’s a guy at a keyboard in Poco Logo, why not do it all?”

      I don’t think that is where it happened, although there are plenty of good arguments against doing it all, mainly what races do you target and how much more risk of discovery do you incur.

      I think the fraud occurred in illegally cast ballots. Harvested ballots in nursing homes. Dead people. Filling out of ballots obtained fraudulently in the name of people who didn’t order them. Cheating where observers were not allowed etc.

      There is enough evidence all that happened even without the Dominion issue.

    563. WizardofCozz says:

      The Election WizardMan mage
      @Wizard_Predicts
      ·
      35s
      One of biggest tactical mistakes of Republicans was not adequately fighting back and bringing litigation against these rule changes long before Election Day.
      Quote Tweet
      Arthur Bloom Flag of United States
      @j_arthur_bloom
      · 54m
      Dershowitz is probably right that many of these rules changes in the year before the election will not hold up to Supreme Court scrutiny

    564. Baghdad Robbie says:

      There is not ONE fraudulent ballot anywhere in America.

    565. Pitchaboy says:

      Does anyone here STILL believe Robbie voted for Trump? If so, I have a bridge……

    566. dblaikie says:

      Jason I agree, no legislature on their own would overturn a legally certified election. However, there are a couple of buts. The first is state like Wisconsin were you can’t legally do a recount until the election is certified. If they huge fraud, the only recourse the Legislature has is to nominate another slate of electors. The second is a state like Michigan where the evidence of fraud is great enough where the Board of Canvassers can’t certify with a deal-locked vote. Once again the only recourse is that the Legislature needs to decide the electors. Who they choose would be up to them.

    567. dblaikie says:

      For me the choice seems simple. If you believe that this election was no better or no worse than any other election, than the correct argument is to just accept it and pray for the Country. Yet if you believe that their is a likely hood, of even a chance that this election was stolen then as a citizen it is your duty to support every effort to examine the vote and oppose every effort to keep it hidden.

    568. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Georgia election results certified by the Republican Sec of State. Suck it!

    569. jason says:

      If they huge fraud, the only recourse the Legislature has is to nominate another slate of electors. The second is a state like Michigan where the evidence of fraud is great enough where the Board of Canvassers can’t certify with a deal-locked vote. Once again the only recourse is that the Legislature needs to decide the electors. Who they choose would be up to them.”

      They won’t do it. Sorry, that is an unrealistic outcome.

      If they don’t throw out enough votes to reverse the results, there is no other recourse that will make a difference in time for this election.

    570. MikeP says:

      db 584

      I agree with your summary, but I would add one possibility is that no one is certified thus no one gets to 270 EV’s then it goes to the house representatives which we have the majority

    571. jason says:

      eorgia election results certified by the Republican Sec of State.”

      Elections have consequences. This guy is a weak kneed spineless gutless wonder afraid of his own shadow.

    572. LivintheDream says:

      588 – that is the strategy. no one gets to 270 and the country then gets a civics lesson.

    573. WizardofCozz says:

      Jason Alexander Roberge
      @JasonRobergeVA
      ·
      3h
      There is no evidence of fraud, all we have is 1000’s of witnesses, video proof, statistical anomalies in the vote counts, bogus vote counting software that can be hacked by anyone, former Dominion employees working for Biden and no auditing of ballots.

    574. NYCmike says:

      I saw the Powerline link which Robbie posted, which I agree is quite embarrassing if true. Oddly enough, Robbie didn’t seem able to link to this article also found at Powerline, which shows how Georgia’s SecofState and Governor are not really running that tight of a ship, and it could hurt the Republicans chances in the run-off election.

      Robbie, why would you want them to not push to make sure the run-off is completely above board?

      https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/11/20/a_realistic_primer_on_georgias_senate_runoffs_144695.html

      “First the recount. Despite assertions by Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and in the local media, the effort has been disingenuous. There was a failure to properly authenticate ballots. Finding thousands of uncounted ballots in the process doesn’t help create confidence in what Georgia officials claim to be a smooth process.

      In addition, post-election data shows that some 15,000 individuals who no longer live in Georgia voted in the recent general election. Another 8,800 inactive voters mysteriously cast a vote in this cycle. Some 14,000 “low propensity” voters who basically have not voted in 10 years also participated. Almost all of those votes were cast before the November 3 same-day voting.

      None of this suspicious activity could change the course of a recount in which not enough monitors were provided. And in many of the larger counties, monitors were forced to observe from a distance where they could not see the ballots. Signature verification was not even considered. But those lists of non-resident, inactive, and other so-called “miracle” voters could have their status challenged for the upcoming runoff, if done so quickly. That is not voter “suppression.” It’s enforcing the basic integrity of the election process.””

    575. jason says:

      Yet if you believe that their is a likely hood, of even a chance that this election was stolen then as a citizen it is your duty to support every effort to examine the vote and oppose every effort to keep it hidden.”

      Door number 2, please.

      I do support every effort. But I also have an opinion on which efforts have a better chance of prevailing.

      I don’t believe in the elector replacement or that it will go to the House.

    576. JeffS says:

      Tucker and all the other pretty faces in the MSM are laboring under the misapprehension they not only sit behind news desks, but on benches in courts of law. Report the news, ass-hats. Leave the weighing of evidence to real judges. There is evidence and there is proof. There is plenty of evidence that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone in killing President Kennedy. OTOH, there is a myriad of evidence others were involved. Neither side has PROOF, just plenty of evidence. Suck it up, Tuck. Until “Honorable” appears before your name, stick to psuedo-journalism like the rest of your colleagues.

    577. NYCmike says:

      I would also point out that the Republican officials NOT making sure to investigate EVERYTHING tells the not-prone-to-vote Trump voter that they aren’t needed, so one more reason for the less involved to simply stay home, like any other off-year election.

    578. jason says:

      The GA SOS seems like a Never Trumper for which he ends justify the means. He is on the “fraud is ok, if it is against Trump” team.

      I am disappointed about Kemp though. I thought he did a great job on COVID and resisted the lockdown crowd well.

      Perhaps he didn’t see what he could do given the SOS position. But he should have at least taken a stronger stand against fraud, by letting it go he is pretty much guaranteeing it will happen again during the runoffs.

    579. NYCmike says:

      “Perhaps he didn’t see what he could do given the SOS position.”

      -Didn’t Kemp move from SoS up to Governor?

      Maybe there are some skeletons there, as has been rumored…..

    580. Country Dick Montana says:

      Elections don’t have consequences for me anymore
      I plan on living as happily as I can until I don’t. This back and forth is almost sad now. There was fraud and everyone knows it even the trolls. Even Robbie. But no one is going to jail and Biden will be inaugurated on 1/20/2021. Trump may be going through the motions simply to keep the base energised for the GA Senate races. Try winning those without the Trump voters.

      So the trolls troll us because, they have nothing else. Robbie trolls us from a deep seated need to be right, kind of a control issue. One set of us has accepted that there isn’t anything we can do, while others hold out hope for a gazillion to one scenario.

      It doesn’t matter who wins. They are all the same.

    581. Roger says:

      When does Kemp sign off on the Georgia certification?

    582. Wobbles says:

      so one more reason for the less involved to simply stay home, like any other off-year election.”

      No problem, we don’t need those working class idiots.

      We are going to make it up in the suburbs, I am personally sending postcards to every member of Augusta National Golf Club.

    583. jason says:

      Kemp has to sign off on it?

      Maybe he will grow some balls.

    584. Roger says:

      “Working as an engineer throughout my life, I live by the motto that numbers don’t lie,” Raffensperger said during a news conference at the state Capitol. “As secretary of state, I believe that the numbers that we have presented today are correct. The numbers reflect the verdict of the people, not a decision by the secretary of state’s office or of courts or of either campaign.”

    585. dblaikie says:

      Well they just fired the DeKalb County, Georgia elections manager for voter discrepancies. This stinks to high heaven. This is just the tip of the iceberg with this election malfeasance and it need to be dealt with.

    586. Wobbles says:

      “all we have is 1000’s of witnesses, video proof, statistical anomalies in the vote counts, bogus vote counting software that can be hacked by anyone, former Dominion employees working for Biden and no auditing of ballots.”

      I think this is ok because of Trump’s tweets.

      I think we should form a committee to study this for 2 years and make recommendations if it happens again.

    587. Country Dick Montana says:

      Yeah the engineer who signed off on the Kansas City Hyatt walkways lived by the numbers too. Over 100 died in that one. Stupid quote on his part and an embarrassment to real engineers.

    588. jason says:

      Raffensperger sounds like a sanctimonious holier than thou jackass.

    589. NYCmike says:

      Never heard about that Hyatt walkway before….terrible.

    590. Robbie says:

      dblaikie says:
      November 20, 2020 at 11:55 am
      Robbie, sometimes your lack of knowledge is vast. I will try to explain this to you in simple terms.
      1. Will the Michigan Board of Canvassers Certify the election? As of now one of the two GOP members on the board of four says he will vote to delay the Certification.
      2. If they can’t certify by the deadline what slate of electors will be chosen by Michigan?
      3. This, stupid, is when the Legislature will get involved.

      – Here’s the cold, hard truth.

      In public, Trump’s “legal” team has made all sorts of wild accusations about vote fraud.

      Under oath and in front of judges, Trump’s legal team has said they have no evidence of fraud.

      At some point, they either back up their fantastic claims in a court of law, or it’s nothing more than performance art.

      The legislature is not going to get involved.

    591. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 20, 2020 at 12:02 pm
      Robbie two weeks ago.

      Show me the evidence.

      Robbie now.

      Ok, but this evidence won’t overturn the results.

      The moral compass of a floating t

      – I’ve seen no evidence and the Trump team has not provided any under oath in a court of law.

    592. Robbie says:

      WizardofCozz says:
      November 20, 2020 at 12:12 pm
      Robbie is that MSM reporter reporting on how peaceful the riots are as the city burns down behind him!!! LOL

      – Did Rudy help or hurt Trump yesterday? Yes or no?

    593. Hugh says:

      609. Got a link

    594. WizardofCozz says:

      611,

      He clearly helped, and we know this because the MSM is freaking out now!

    595. Robbie says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      November 20, 2020 at 12:24 pm
      Does anyone here STILL believe Robbie voted for Trump? If so, I have a bridge……

      – I voted straight party Republican on election day so I, therefore, voted for Trump.

      What I’m not going to do is indulge in fantasies about Dominion algorithms, Hugo Chavez, the communist Cubans, or whatever else Rudy and Sydney Powell offered up in that ridiculous press conference yesterday.

      I’m not going to indulge in wild fantasies that state legislatures in PA or MI or anywhere else are going to elect their own slate of electors and make Trump president.

      And frankly, neither should you. If Trump’s team has evidence of a massive conspiracy, them why have they said under oath in front of judges that they don’t have evidence of fraud?

    596. hugh says:

      614 link please

    597. Robbie says:

      Wobbles says:
      November 20, 2020 at 1:06 pm
      “all we have is 1000’s of witnesses, video proof, statistical anomalies in the vote counts, bogus vote counting software that can be hacked by anyone, former Dominion employees working for Biden and no auditing of ballots.”

      – Ah, yes. The thousands of witnesses, video proof, and statistical anomalies that are so earth shattering they’re too explosive for anyone to see.

      Notice how Rudy has not released any of these affidavits? I have, Jason.

    598. Robbie says:

      Hugh

      “President Trump has claimed widespread fraud was at play in the presidential election. Several of his lawyers have told judges in courtrooms across the country that they don’t believe that to be true.”

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-cries-election-fraud-in-court-his-lawyers-dont-11605271267

    599. hugh says:

      thats it. ha. I believe it. sure

    600. hugh says:

      which attorneys which court

    601. Robbie says:

      Here are more quotes of what Trump’s lawyers have actually said under oath in a court of law.

      “Appearing in a Pennsylvania courtroom Tuesday (Nov. 17) in the state’s biggest case, Trump lawyer Rudolph W. Giuliani conceded, “This is not a fraud case.”

      “In the same case, a judge asked Trump lawyer Linda Kerns whether she would “agree with me that you are not proceeding based on allegations of fraud or misconduct; is that correct?” Kerns responded, “I am not proceeding on those allegations.”

      “In Maricopa County, Ariz., home to Phoenix, Trump lawyer Kory Langhofer said, “We are not alleging fraud in this lawsuit. … This is not about fraud.”

      “Langhofer said, “We are not alleging anyone is stealing the election.” He added: “It is not a stealing-the-election case.”

      “The voting machine glitches have been central to allegations in Arizona. But Langhofer, while stressing that the Arizona case wasn’t about fraud, said, “The allegation here is that, in what appear to be a limited number of cases, there were good-faith errors in operating machines …”

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/19/trumps-own-lawyers-keep-undermining-his-voter-fraud-claims/

      Again, there’s the fantastic claims made by Trump’s lawyers in public and then there’s what they have actually said under oath in a court of law.

      What Rudy and Sydney Powell are doing is performance art and nothing more.

    602. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Robbie:
      Good for the local KY economy and for the KY GOP!

      “KY senate race: $$$$$$$$$$

      “Fact: Amy McGrath (D) raised more than $88 million to lose to Sen. Mitch McConell (R) by 19.6 points (per final, certified results).”

      https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1329832631773650950

    603. Robbie says:

      Sheeple,Jr. says:
      November 20, 2020 at 1:58 pm
      Robbie:
      Good for the local KY economy and for the KY GOP!

      “KY senate race: $$$$$$$$$$

      “Fact: Amy McGrath (D) raised more than $88 million to lose to Sen. Mitch McConell (R) by 19.6 points (per final, certified results).”

      https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1329832631773650950

      – I calculated that each percentage point by which she lost was worth $4.48 million.

      The TV stations of Kentucky, especially in Louisville, are glad she ran because they made boatloads off her.

    604. Country Dick Montana says:

      So will Mitch call it a career when he is relegated to minority leader after the GA Senate elections?

    605. Robbie says:

      Country Dick Montana says:
      November 20, 2020 at 2:05 pm
      So will Mitch call it a career when he is relegated to minority leader after the GA Senate elections?

      – I think so. He’ll probably encourage our governor to appoint a Democrat to his seat as well since he’s clearly an Antifa supporter who is bound and determined to increase taxes on the rich, appoint liberals to the Supreme Court, and replace all American workers with immigrant.

    606. Country Dick Montana says:

      He is getting up in age, and with the filibuster gone, he may not have the desire to hold out. Good that he would allow the Gov to appoint a DEM. Bette chance of crashing the country faster so we can rebuild it.

    607. Robbie says:

      It really is amazing to watch Trump supporter, mad that their guy lost, root for the two Republicans in Georgia to lose.

    608. Baghdad Robbie says:

      “If Trump’s team has evidence of a massive conspiracy, them why have they said under oath in front of judges that they don’t have evidence of fraud?”

      I don’t SEE one example of massive fraud even though the evidence is overwhelming.

    609. Country Dick Montana says:

      I just want you country club trust fund types to suffer a little. Who wins and who loses really doesn’t affect my life after I park the truck.

    610. WizardofCozz says:

      Not one Trump supporter on here has ROOTED for the GA Senate R’s to lose. There has been concern that newer Trump voters won’t show up if it is perceived that the GOP isn’t supporting Trump election fraud, and some may feel like GA is getting away with cheating so whats to stop them in the runoff, but no WANTS them to lose!! But you know that, and a fraud is going to do what a fraud does!!

    611. jason says:

      Did Rudy help or hurt Trump yesterday? Yes or no?”

      YES.

      The first clue is the reaction both the MSM and you.

      What he offered is irrefutable.

      You don’t believe it because you think fraud is ok as long as it is against Trump.

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    612. jason says:

      t really is amazing to watch Trump supporter, mad that their guy lost, root for the two Republicans in Georgia to lose.”

      Who would they be?

      This should be good.

    613. Roger says:

      Is there any concern that Trump is putting our nation at risk with some of these allegations that don’t have much to them?

    614. Country Dick Montana says:

      I am not concerned at all. Quite frankly DC and the government are too large and intrusive anyway. The more people that distrust it and the system the better. What amazes me is how many people want to be governed and think that the elected and unelected officials in DC. Are smarter than them.

    615. mnw says:

      626 Robbie

      To which poster(s) are you referring? I can’t recall anyone here taking those positions.

      I was never a Loeffler fan, but I intend to contribute to her campaign nonetheless.

    616. John says:

      BOOM

      Pennsylvania GOP legislatures to visit Trump at WH.

      First Michigan turns, now Pennsylvania. BOOM!!!

    617. John says:

      “Is there any concern that Trump is putting our nation at risk with some of these allegations that don’t have much to them?”

      Go away TROLL

      If Trump doesn’t fight, we have NO NATION. I’m fighting with him. Are you?

      This is a fist fight. I don’t care about optics and decorum and “due process”. Phuck that. We are fighting for the nation right now and you are “concerned.” Go away.

    618. Gordon Allen says:

      Robbie really is terminally dumb. Shockingly so. The nonsense about Guilliani swearing off fraud is brain dead.
      Each case in court differs. My understanding was,and is, that on Tuesday the legal issue was a constitutional one, namely the denial of equal protection of the law,by virtue of the De Facto two

      tiered voting requirements in Pennsylvania, violative of the Bush v Gore holding.
      This would have little connection to completely different factual claims
      regarding fraud.
      Suing someone for assault is different from an appeal of a decision in a land use case.
      Obviously Robbie simply passes on verbatim what CNN says, utterly without the slightest thought or analysis.
      It must be a tough,sad life Robbie lives.

    619. jason says:

      Is there any concern that Trump is putting our nation at risk with some of these allegations that don’t have much to them?”

      NO.

      But there should be a lot of concern that if we allow the VBM fraud to go unchecked, it will just keep happening in the future.

      Now THAT would put our nation at risk.

    620. jason says:

      he nonsense about Guilliani swearing off fraud is brain dead.”

      All out of context drivel he picks up on his far left fake news sources.

    621. Hugh says:

      Russian bots stealing the election from Hillary is much more believable than fraudulent vbm ballots. Trump voters are so stupid. CNN

    622. pitchaboy says:

      Dont know much about Powell. Tucker, I always felt, is a snooty, combative and supercilious dope.

    623. Country Dick Montana says:

      Never understood people who put their faith in politicians, athletes or other celebrities, including news personalities.

    624. PresidentPaul! says:

      CDM

      If dems stack the court, the “next Trump” will be stuck unable to do anything even enforce basic immigration laws, etc whatever.

      We spent 90 years trying to get control of the court, and now people here want to pout lol.

      no thanks!

    625. CamRep says:

      643. EXACTLY! Faith only in Trump!

    626. Roger says:

      John,
      I am very concerned about the nation. That is why I question whether Trump’s lies and fake allegations are dangerous.

    627. Country Dick Montana says:

      Pp- Who cares. There will not be another Trump. We are already too far gone with a weaponized federal beaurcracy. Let the voters reap what they sew.

    628. CamRep says:

      Here’s what the libs and the spineless RINO cucks don’t get:

      The fire hose is coming. It’s already here. There’s so much it’s going to drown the easily triggered whiners calling to “count every illegal vote,” literally and figuratively. If the facts don’t drown them, their tears will. And the President will show them NO mercy.

      The latest: The pedophile cabal is now begging at His feet, weeping that a *NEW* video of Hunter Biden, AOC, and Queen Noor of Jordan performing SATANIC rituals at a polling place in south Georgia, chanting to Hugo Chavez to deliver votes for Comrade Biden. They will not prevail! We have the PROOF!

    629. Roger says:

      John,
      Doesn’t it concern you that Trump would try to strong arm this legislatures to go against the popular will of the people?

    630. Country Dick Montana says:

      Tell us Roger, how does it damage the country?

    631. PresidentPaul! says:

      I think the GOP will win the midterm big in 2022 if we prevent Biden (from having the senate to boost the economy)

      And I think the GOP could easily win big in 2024 as well.

    632. Roger says:

      Country Dick,
      I do not doubt that there is some fraud. But I’ve also seen outright lies by Trump lately that he is pushing. I just think it is dangerous to push people off the cliff unnecessarily.

    633. Country Dick Montana says:

      Strong Arm?? That’s rich. Votes in the middle of the night. Rules changed on the fly. Poll watchers ejected from counting. Statistically impossible voting numbers.

      We aren’t stupid, and can see things for ourselves regardless of what Trump says or does.

      You are just worried that we don’t get on the train quietly to go where you want us to go. Be gone Troll.

    634. Roger says:

      IF OUR NATION CAN SURVIVE WHATEVER TRUMP HAS IN STORE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, I am hopeful that we (Republicans) can restore things in the 2022 midterms and then be able to get a saner Republican candidate in 2024 that more of the nation can get behind.

    635. Hugh says:

      Go away Roger. I don’t remember seeing you complaining about the Russian bots story. Or all the other crazy conspiracies the democrats have thrown out there. You are quite transparent. It was Hillary who suggested that no matter what Biden fight on if he did not win the election. Al Gore dragged on election for 35 days based on hanging chads in only three deep blue counties in Florida. Was that dangerous to our democracy?

    636. Country Dick Montana says:

      This country survived it’s birth, multiple depressions and a civil war. It survived the Rssia hoax and the resistance. It will survive this, but in a much different form.

      You wish to be governed and to have acquiescence from those with whom you disagree
      You wish subjugation of the half of the population that you see a different and inferior to you. Don’t try to convince of your concern for this country. You have no e

    637. Roger says:

      Country Dick: I have to admit that I agree with Robbie for the most part. The election was very odd because Democrats and Republicans voted in two very different ways. I think that was a bad idea but it’s too late to change now. The mail-ins which were mostly Democratic weren’t allowed to be counted until in the middle of the night when the in-person votes were finished. Looks fishy as hell but it doesn’t mean that there is fraud.

    638. Roger says:

      I’m hopeful for a Romney/Sasse ticket in 2024. 🙂

    639. WizardofCozz says:

      Roger,

      C’mon your smarter than that troll. They weren’t allowed to be counted until they said they were closing down and poll watchers went home, and then lo and behold they started counting again and Biden just happened to get almost all of the votes. That strains all belief!

    640. Country Dick Montana says:

      If we survive?? Good grief that is dramatic. Trump will likely leave on 1/20/2021 because he will have lost. You’re just concerned that the rest of us won’t forget what you did.

      You are about as Republican as I am a brain surgeon.

    641. Roger says:

      Wizardofcocc:
      My understanding that there are poll watchers in at all times. They had a court case about poll watchers not being in close enough proximity. There has been NO COURT CASES about poll watchers NOT being present.

    642. WizardofCozz says:

      You wanting a Romney/Sasse ticket explains everything!!! LOL what a troll!!

    643. Roger says:

      Country Dick: I am a Republican. BUT I DIDN’T EVER VOTE FOR TRUMP. I found him to be a despicable turd.

    644. PresidentPaul! says:

      btw BTC up 4% overnight…again. eth up 8%. polkdot up 13% overnight.

      beats keeping money in a savings account

    645. Country Dick Montana says:

      Well Roger, Robbie could use a friend…if you know what I mean.

      The two of you can have fun rebuilding the GOP without the Trump voters. Again it doesn’t matter to me anymore who I live under. I don’t see a bit of difference.

    646. country Dick Montana says:

      Oh gawd Roger. The linguistics of you last post give you away. Please Paul, take the meds we buy for you. It may help with the multiple personality thing.

    647. Roger says:

      CDM: I can appreciate your frustration. Our nation is a mess and it isn’t entirely clear how to get out of it.

    648. Paul says:

      Roger, go to hell.

    649. Phil says:

      Romney- Sasse ticket.

      Even in jest that is moronic but explains a lot.

      What a troll.

    650. Paul says:

      Hey! That last post wasn’t me. Who is stealing my handle?

    651. Gordon Allen says:

      Roger is another name for gatorjoel. A total fraud. He’s as much a Republican as I am a card carrying communist. Romney at the head of the ticket!! He couldn’t get a single delagate,even his own as his constituents in Utah will be busy riding him out of town on the back of a horse.

    652. Country Dick Montana says:

      Roger IS Paul. You need a life buddy. You know of the Dems hadn’t emptied the institution in the 70 s and 80s you would be a lot more comfortable and getting the help you truly need

    653. Tina says:

      gatorboy, paul, roger and amoral scumbag are all the same person.

    654. wobbles says:

      Numbers don’t lie. Trump needs to concede so we move on to winning with real republicans.

    655. Paul says:

      45 minutes ’till Georgia is certified for Biden, suckas.

    656. Gordon Allen says:

      John. I think off what I heard this morning that is the play. There isn’t enough time to try any cases start to finish,,with the number of issues, witnesses( separate cases?) needed before December 14. I think the hope is to convince legislators that the fraud/ illegality of voting is such that they can’t approve any certification,and perhaps have a slate of electors,but more likely none so that nobody gets to 270. I think they know the House is 26-24 Republican.

    657. John says:

      Doesn’t it concern you that Trump would try to strong arm this legislatures to go against the popular will of the people?

      NOT AT ALL. It’s not popular will, it was fraud. If popular will happened, Trump won easy. Bring it I say. We are ready to defend Trump and the nation from the man-bun libtards.

    658. Rudy G says:

      Pardon me, Mr. President. Pleaseeee pardon me.

    659. Waingro says:

      “I’m hopeful for a Romney/Sasse ticket in 2024. ?”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydx4UalHzmk

    660. Dan says:

      re:678.
      Just because you think there is fraud without a shred of evidence (clue for you: minorities voting does not constitute fraud) does not make it so. To think that there is fraud without any evidence is as vile and patently un-American as it gets. You truly hate America, it tenants (on many levels) and the very core of our democracy. It is palpable. You lost. Get over it. Of course real Americans realize you are too insecure to admit to being wrong. Insecure little cowards always are. smh

    661. Roger says:

      John,
      It is popular vote. Just because your guy didn’t win, doesn’t mean it is fraud. Do you understand this, John?

    662. Hugh says:

      You’re lying Dan. Sworn affidavits are evidence. Forensic statistical analysis is evidence. You can ignore it but it a lot more than the bs the dems spewed about Russia and we haven’t even spent 40m yet to run down all the fraud.

    663. Roger says:

      Hugh,
      Neither of those are necessarily evidence of fraud. Many of the affidavits are people saying that they weren’t close enough in the room. Or that a suspicious boxes arrived that ended up being food for the volunteers. Statistical analysis is meaningless when this election is very different from previous ones.

    664. Tgca says:

      Dan and Roger

      Do you believe the Russians intervened in the 2016 election and that hurt Hillary? Inquiring minds want to know.

    665. Roger says:

      Tgca:
      I don’t believe Trump colluded with Russia. But I do think Russia was involved in the election and hurt Clinton in some small ways, but not enough to change the election. I think Trump won in a fair election in 2016 and do not doubt the results.

    666. mnw says:

      Remember how we had a peaceful, collegial election night? Because we all agreed to ignore the trolls? Just ignore them… and we did?

      You’re feeding the trolls again, & predictably, you’re getting more troll.

      Does anybody (except jason) really WANT more troll?

      If not, the obvious remedy is still at hand

    667. Hugh says:

      Tons of ballots coming in after hours disguised as carry out etc is evidence of fraud. Too bad they screwed up and a couple reps were still there.

    668. Tgca says:

      684. Roger

      Not true! To suggest that statistical analysis is meaningless unless you have the same event occurrences in comparison is not correct. Statistical analysis does not require exact situations in order to have correlations. Often in science, associations are made to other systems that behave similarly though they are not alike. Correlation analysis is often used in the real and scientific world. I learned this a long time ago as a student of math and science, and it is practiced routinely in statistical modeling.

    669. mnw says:

      Tg

      How ’bout visiting with your old friend mnw, INSTEAD OF feeding those total fools who hate everyone here?

      How’s your back doing? Are you still planning to leave the Philly area?

    670. Roger says:

      Hug,
      You have nothing. How is that evidence of fraud. And the Republicans were always in the room. They are required to be there at ALL TIMES. AND NO ONE HAS EVER SHOWN EVIDENCE THAT REPUBLICAN OBSERVERS WEREN’T IN THE ROOM.

    671. Roger says:

      Tgca: This election was different than all previous because Democrats voted one way and Republicans voted another way. So you have mostly Republican votes before 3:00 AM. And you have mostly Democratic votes after 3:00 AM. Looks weird but perfectly normal. GOT IT< DUDE.

    672. Shortstop says:

      So the national conservative legal group Amistad Project of the Thomas More Society on Friday announced that it will file federal and state lawsuits challenging the presidential election results in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Georgia and Arizona, the group has announced.

    673. Tgca says:

      686 Roger

      So because you believe the Russians hurt Clinton, then it has validity, even though the Mueller investigation found no such correlation whatsoever.

      Why is it ok for you to believe something that has absolutely no evidence after years of investigations but you refuse to acknowledge the possibility of voter fraud when there is a good deal of evidence of fraud in the 2020 election?

      Affidavits are evidence under the law, and I don’t think many folks would file affidavits when they could be prosecuted under the law and get jail time. If they do file false affidavits, they deserve to be prosecuted.

      Why not let this play out in the courts and see if any of this evidence is fruitful. If fraud is proven, that helps the US strengthen elections, and if not, then it sends confidence to the American voters in the process.

      Why are you afraid of allowing it to play out? Especially since polls, however accurate, are showing nearly half of Americans believe fraud may have occurred.

    674. Hugh says:

      Mnw. You are right why engage with pathetic losers. But for now off to dinner and drinks. You and tgca have a great evening.

    675. Country Dick Montana says:

      Guys Roger is Paul/gator/ and who knows who else. He isn’t here to add anything. He is here to fling poo. We, sadly enough, are what pass for friends in his miserable life
      We are all that he has.

      Paul or whoever. Whether or not Biden wins your life will not improve. You will continue to be a drain on society with only the knowledge that a few people will be knocked down to your sad level. If that is what will make you happy, then it says mre about you than it does about us.

    676. Tgca says:

      692. Roger

      You made a statistical claim that is not accurate. I was a math major and my statistics and probability courses taught us differently than you stated. So unless I was taught wrong and the math has changed since then, your analysis lacks statistical support.

    677. Roger says:

      Tgca: What the hell are you saying? I said that I don’t believe there was collusion. But I do believe Russia was doing some activity that probably hurt Clinton, but not enough to change the election. That is almost exactly what the investigation found.

    678. Roger says:

      Tgca: My only claim was that votes are going to be added to the total in a way that is very different than a normal election. That is because Dems and Reps voted in two different ways with their votes being added to the total at different times. YOU WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, RIGHT?

    679. Paul says:

      I’m not Roger. If you don’t like it, go to hell.

    680. Shortstop says:

      I apologize for being late to the party but can anyone think that this will have any teeth to it?

      This morning Attorney Sidney Powell went on with Glenn Beck. Powell told Glenn the servers from ScytI in Germany were in fact confiscated and “I AM HEARING THAT IS WAS OUR FORCES THAT GOT THE SERVERS.”

      Sidney Powell: “The servers from Scytl were confiscated the other day. I’m hearing it was our forces that got those servers. So I think the government is now working on an investigation of what really happened.”

    681. Country Dick Montana says:

      700 Looks like a bulls eye to me. Please one name when you are here. Makes it easier to keep track.

    682. Paul says:

      Don’t be a sore loser, DICK.

    683. John says:

      Roger and Dan

      How about you phuck off before I bust open your empty skull?

    684. Tgca says:

      Roger

      In the court of law, testimony of individuals are evidence. Testimony of individuals attesting to certain acts as 1st hand witnesses with knowledge is evidence. Most court cases that convict folks are not based on video or audio proof but based on evidence of witnesses.

      Again, why are you against letting this play out and the courts hearing from witnesses?

      Also, why are you against applying statistical analysis of patterns as evidence which also are routinely used in courts. For example, fingerprints is a statistical analysis representation often accepted by courts as evidence because it is a mathematical model attesting to probabilities and not an exact proof.

    685. Country Dick Montana says:

      Actually just the opposite Paul. I have accepted the loss. Only kind of wish it will go further. The election allows me to retire and go on the Government Dole just like you. Now I know that given your admitted mental issues and the obvious fact that you troll what is nominally a conservative site you wouldn’t understand happiness. You come here because you really do hate yourself and your life and if you can get a ride out of people, well that is success in your life.

      I will be just fine no matter what the outcome. You will still be poor with mental issues and a continued drain.

    686. Paul says:

      John,
      You are getting a bit testy. It’s hard on you that your guy lost, but you are going to have to face the reality before long.

    687. Paul says:

      Country Dick Montana:
      I’m actually very worried about Trump blowing up our country with his idiotic lies about fraud.

    688. Tgca says:

      699 Roger

      I don’t agree! Large cities often commit fraud and that’s why cities like Newark, Camden, and DC, as examples, are often under state or federal oversight due to continued fraud that occurs in their cities often at the highest levels by politicians.

      Statistical analysis performed by some qualified professionals claim the improbabilities of success here and until they are PROVEN wrong deserve some scrutiny in my opinion.

      On the opposite side, you and the Dems claim there was no fraud but you have no evidence of that to refute against those that have claimed they have examples of fraud. Where is your evidence that fraud was not a possibility?

      Why not let it go to the courts and let the evidence be presented?

    689. John says:

      Hey Paul TROLL – while you decide which bathroom to use, i’m deciding which guns I’m bringing to the next MAGA march.

      Find me there and i’ll chop off your man bunn.

    690. Roger says:

      The burden of proof of fraud is on the side that claims it exists and not on the side that claims it does not.

    691. Country Dick Montana says:

      708- How is going to blow it up? I mean by what mechanism does he do this? If a shooting war in 1861-1865 didn’t do it, how will one man?

      You aren’t afraid of him. You are afraid of us. Sad really, as we would still take care of you.

    692. Paul says:

      John, bring your guns. Let’s meet for a duel.

    693. Gordon Allen says:

      Those here arguing about evidence are know nothings literally. If something is relevant and admissible it’s evidence ,and up to the trier of fact( judge/ jury) to decide it’s weight. I heard many cases where ” expert testimony”, including statistical,was admitted and evaluated in the context at hand. If you claim differently, you’re a phony,fraud, dishonest and moronic. If the hat fits,wear it.

    694. Tgca says:

      Criminal court cases are based on a claims by prosecutors. They are not automatically accepted as criminal guilt until evidence is presented in a court of law and jurists or juries decide.

      Trump says fraud occurs and he evidently believes that based on what he’s been told and evidence that supposedly exists. Maybe he is wrong, maybe not.

      Obama and Dems stated no fraud occurred with absolutely no knowledge or evidence of that claim but you accept that as accurate? That’s like the parents who refuse to accept their children could ever do anything because they just know that in their heart.

      See the difference? One side claims they have evidence and want to present it and the other side just shakes their heads no but have no evidence to support their conclusion.

      Let the evidence play out in court. You agree on that?

    695. Tgca says:

      711

      EXACTLY! So why not let those accusing fraud occurred their day in court to present their evidence?

      Accusers, whether right or wrong, may not always prevail but why are you and the Dems against allowing the accusers their day in court?

      History is fraught with examples of fraud and not always winning. The Feds had special laws to protect AA from the Dems in the south in mid 1900s because fraud and wrongs was rampant against AA voters despite courts in the south not addressing such wrongs and frauds.

    696. Roger says:

      Tgca: I have no problem with them having their day in court. They have been in plenty of courts sharing various components of their case. We will see how it goes. I prefer it being played out in court instead of random things thrown around on the internet that I’m not qualified to determine the veracity.

    697. Tgca says:

      I suspect the reason that the Dems and the MSM do not want to see evidence provided in court is because the longer this goes on and people see varying viewpoints, it will further erode Biden’s support of legitimacy.

      Sorry! If current polls are to be believed, nearly 50% of folks are already believing fraud occurred.

    698. Tgca says:

      717

      Then you should refrain from lecturing people to accept defeat if the courts have not yet ruled upon any evidence when you have no refuting evidence that fraud did not occur.

      Courts are not always correct but at least it allows people the opportunity to try and present their side.

      If I recall, most of the Dems did not accept the USSC decision of Bush/Gore in 2000 but at least it was played out and not shut down from the onset.

      My suspicion is probably that 80% of either side will never accept the courts decision but at least it was allowed to play out.

    699. Rudy G. says:

      I am on a roll.

      I’m on a big winning streak in court. They say I’m ON FIRE!

      SO MUCH WINNING !!

    700. phoenixrisen says:

      TGCA, yup. The worst that can happen here for the GOP is Biden will be an impotent president because his so-called victory of that plays out was gained by massive fraud which will poison his presidency permanently and the GOP will have both houses of Congress in 2022, much more so as the GOP gets to redistrict nearly half of congressional districts. The GOP voters aren’t even going to give Biden a chance. The Dems will surely reap what they showed the last four years in spades.

    701. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      706. “Paul…Now I know that given your admitted mental issues and the obvious fact that you troll what is nominally a conservative site you wouldn’t understand happiness. You come here because you really do hate yourself and your life and if you can get a ride out of people, well that is success in your life.”

      Good advice. Paul needs to get in touch with his inner child, and when he does so he can fill out a mail ballot for him and vote twice.

    702. PresidentPaul! says:

      Real vision daily briefing up

      https://youtu.be/xpqjtT5K6D8

    703. Shheple,Jr. says:

      jason & EML:
      This is what remains in NY CD-22. Tenney(R) is looking good.

      Opinion Haver
      @AsInMarx
      ·

      Tenney leads by 75, or 131, or “over 300” votes. Who knows. The remaining uncounted ballots are

      33 civilian oversees & 40 military ballots (will get counted)
      395 challenges (campaign lawyers fight about these, but these have already been counted and are in the totals. A few may be rejected by the Judge.)
      720 rejected (very unlikely to get counted)
      1,500 in limbo in Oneida(unlikely to be counted since both sided have rejected them for administrative violations).

      In sum, 73 “hot” ballots remain in the whole Congressional District and then some housekeeping of a few score of ballots.

    704. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      New vote dump in the LA County part of CA CD-25.

      L.A. County updates in #CA25, adding 2,032 votes that break 51.1%/48.9% for Democrat
      @ChristyForCA25
      , trimming incumbent Republican
      @MikeGarcia2020
      ‘s margin by 46 votes to a new lead of 400 even.
      Quote Tweet
      CATargetBot
      @CATargetBot
      · 31m
      ##CA25 Update
      Rob Pyers
      @rpyers
      ·
      29m
      Looks like that was around 30,000 of L.A. County’s 66K remaining, leaving ~36K left countywide and probably 2,500 votes in #CA25 at the most.
      Rob Pyers
      @rpyers
      ·
      18m
      And Ventura County isn’t finished yet either, with 2,763 left countywide and probably 400 from their portion of #CA25.

    705. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Another vote dump in the Kern County part of CA CD-21. Valdeo(R) is doing well in his opponent’s best areaValdeo’s best area,Kings County, has about 1,500 votes to count next week.

      Kern County updates in #CA21, adding 2,644 votes that break 53.4%/46.6% for incumbent Democrat
      @TJCoxCongress
      , cutting Republican
      @dgvaladao
      ‘s lead by 178 votes from 1,796 to 1,618 votes.
      Quote Tweet
      CATargetBot
      @CATargetBot
      · 28m
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      Rob Pyers
      @rpyers
      ·
      25m
      That Kern update was around 11,500 votes, leaving probably 8,000 – 10,000 left countywide, with (at most) 2,500 left in #CA21.

      I think we’re done here.Checkmark for the Republican!

    706. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      He probably called CA CD-21 with tears rolling down his smug face!

      https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1329944113312133120

      Wasserman calls CA21 for Valadao.

    707. Rudy G. says:

      Just finished a GREAT meeting with the Michigan legislators at the White House.

      We have invited the Pennsylvania legislators this weekend.

      We will win both Michigan and Pennsylvania. Wisconsin will be the easiest of them all.

      4 more years!

    708. Bitterlaw says:

      Here are my proposals to fight voter fraud:

      1. End early voting. We should have 1 day to vote. We could call it Election Day.

      2. No large scale vote by mail. Go back to absentee ballots for cause.

      3. Voter ID.

      Problem solved.

    709. Country Dick Montana says:

      Bitter- We all know that voter ID discriminates. What next? A poll tax? A test for literacy?

      Tsk tsk.

    710. Bitterlaw says:

      Ok, CDM. We can drop voter ID. The first 2 should be enough.

    711. Country Dick Montana says:

      Crazy but it just might work

    712. Meldrim says:

      #524, mnw, I think that you’re being overly generous when you say, as evidence of Kelli Ward’s intelligence, that she graduated from “medical school.” She graduated from a school of “osteopathic medicine,” which is one step removed from a school of acupuncture. This is Ward’s alma mater:
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_School_of_Osteopathic_Medicine

      And jason, Kris Kobach didn’t go “to Harvard like Obama.” Kobach went to Harvard as an undergrad, while Obama started out at Occidental and then transferred to Columbia (nowhere near as difficult to gain admission as Harvard); Kobach then went to Yale Law School, which is much harder to get into, and generally has a more accomplished student body, than Harvard Law School (where Obama went). In truth, Kobach was a far more accomplished student than Obama, and there is no doubt in my mind that Kobach is a remarkably intelligent person who for some reason doesn’t have a good read on the voters in Kansas. Check out Kobach’s academic career:

      “In 1984, Kobach graduated from Washburn Rural High School in Topeka, Kansas, where he was co-valedictorian, and the student body class president.[29] He earned his Bachelor of Arts degree in Government from Harvard University, graduating summa cum laude and first in his department.[30] The director of Harvard’s Center for International Affairs, Professor Samuel P. Huntington, was Kobach’s faculty advisor from 1984 to 1988. Huntington believed that migration, especially from Mexico and Latin America, represented the most perilous threat to what he called the “American identity.” When Kobach taught law at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, Huntington’s writings were required reading in the course.[31] From Harvard, Kobach went on to earn a Doctor of Philosophy in politics from Brasenose College, Oxford, having been granted a Marshall Scholarship. Returning to the U.S., he earned a J.D. from Yale Law School in 1995,[32][33] and became an editor of the Yale Law Journal. During this time, Kobach published two books: The Referendum: Direct Democracy in Switzerland (Dartmouth, 1994), and Political Capital: The Motives, Tactics, and Goals of Politicized Businesses in South Africa (University Press of America, 1990).[32]”

    713. PresidentPaul! says:

      Europe is just dropping like flies going into lockdown.

      We’ve just been 4 weeks or so behind Europe so far.

      https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/us-currently-hospitalized

      there is nothing but exponential growth here. Can be seen no other way

      Add in that there is zero stimulus right now in here or Europe and this stuff is going to bleed over into the markets as well.

      Once the hospitals become overwhelmed policy makers will be locking everyone down just like March if we follow Europe.

    714. Gordon Allen says:

      Many ” ordinary” civil cases take weeks at least. The cases here are vastly more complicated and important. Those who think between now and December 14,with a major holiday in between, and Covd considerations, it can be resolved are delusional. The Democrat’s have every reason to stall btw.
      No chance exists for full blown evidentiary trials in the period at hand, unless the parties agree substantially on the parameters in advance; ZERO chance of that. This process is now overwhelmingly political,and non legal, barring Supreme Court intervention drastically limiting the issues: again, virtually no chance. The Constitutional remedies now are almost completely political.
      The Supreme Court is the week before the election had an opportunity in the Pennsylvania case to declare election law was as defined by the respective legislatures. Period. To his eternal shame Roberts punted,and we are where we are as a result.

    715. PresidentPaul! says:

      By thanksgiving we should have about the same daily death rate as at the height in March, and probably double the number of daily hospitalizations.

      That is a recipe for a national lockdown, and thanksgiving is less than a week away.

    716. EML says:

      Thanks for the updates Sheeple. Increasingly confident of a Tenney win.

    717. Rudy G says:

      How do so many of you lie so easily? It just comes to you all naturally. I need some pointers for lying better. This was the group I was directed to in order to help me out.

    718. jason says:

      And jason, Kris Kobach didn’t go “to Harvard like Obama.” Kobach went to Harvard as an undergrad,”

      Geezus, really?

      Okay, like Obama, Kobach attended Harvard.

      Happy now?

      Oh, and GFY.

    719. sane_voter says:

      It appears Garcia (R) is set to win CA25. Garcia will likely win a majority of the remaining 400 Ventura county ballots, and he is leading that county overall by 8.2%. Smith (D) would need to win the remaining 2500 ballots in LA county by a greater margin than any of the recent post-election day updates have shown so far. Overall, she is only winning LA county by 2.0%.

    720. Rudy G says:

      Sorry, still out of new material.

      Just skip over my posts please.

      Tks.

    721. jason says:

      If Tenney and Garcia hold on is that a net of 12 seats?

    722. EML says:

      +11 I think with Valadao, Garcia, Tenney, and Miller-Meeks. NY-01, NY-02, NY-11, NY-25 haven’t officially been called, but all have gone R

    723. jason says:

      I think Biden needs to concede in order to heal the nation.

    724. jaichind says:

      744. Sort of weird why they do not call NY-1 NY-2 and NY-11 and NY-24. It is clear they have gone GOP.

    725. Bitterlaw says:

      https://www.dos.pa.gov/ProfessionalLicensing/BoardsCommissions/OsteopathicMedicine/Pages/Osteopathic-Medicine-Guide.aspx

      While I personally would prefer to have an MD than a DO, I routinely depose both. There are very accomplished osteopathic surgeons who perform the same surgeries and prescribe the same medications as medical doctors.

    726. Bitterlaw says:

      On the other hand, I would not trust a chiropractor to do anything.

    727. jason says:

      I think with Tenney, Valadao and Meeks it is +15 for the GOP, and -3 losses for a net of 12.

      Garcia is an incumbent right?

    728. jason says:

      I don’t discriminate against osteopathic medicine, Chemtrail Ward is free to call herself a doctor.

      She is still a moron, I know it is a shocker to some, but doctors and lawyers can be morons.

    729. Tgca says:

      I use both MD and DO. I find DO are much better at pain management than MD which makes sense since they are trained to treat the whole body and not just the ailment. Drs that just want you to take meds and slice and dice you are old school and close-minded to me. I’ve walked away from a few MD that we’re too rigid in their treatments and had better success with some DO.

    730. jason says:

      HHR is blessed to have Tgca.

      He is even an expert on physician selection.

    731. Bitterlaw says:

      I am much more intelligent than most of the very wealthy attorney who routinely beat me in the court. They were smart enough to choose to represent injured workers instead of the employers. PA law favors employees.

    732. Wobbles says:

      Rudy G says:
      November 20, 2020 at 8:36 pm

      How do so many of you lie so easily? It just comes to you all naturally.”

      Thanks. It is nice to be recognized, I get so much grief here.

    733. jason says:

      I have no problem with early voting, TX has had it for decades. Without it, I would have missed a lot of election due to travel.

    734. lisab says:

      There is no evidence of fraud, all we have is 1000’s of witnesses, video proof, statistical anomalies in the vote counts, bogus vote counting software that can be hacked by anyone, former Dominion employees working for Biden and no auditing of ballots.
      ——————————–

      but what have the romans ever done for us?!!!

    735. Tgca says:

      Drs are like any other profession. There are good and bad. Probably 10% excel at what they do and 80% are average and 10% are awful.

      I’ve been misdiagnosed 3 times by a Dr. That’s why I get 2nd opinions if it doesn’t feel right. My orthopedic surgeon does a lot of re-work from Drs who screw up other peoples spine during surgery.

      My brother was misdiagnosed by a Dr who told him a small lump in his back was a harmless cyst. It turned out to be a tumor from which he died of at 23.

      So GFY if you want to put your faith in someone just because they have some professional letters after their name and went to a good school.

    736. jason says:

      The fraud was in the VBM, not early voting.

    737. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca – I am very sorry that you lost your brother. I don’t know if you ever shared that story before.

    738. Tgca says:

      It was a long time ago Bitter. I was 18 at the time. It made me distrust Drs though to the point you just don’t take their word.

    739. Bitterlaw says:

      Is that why you stopped eating human food?

    740. Shortstop says:

      BREAKING: Look who is now in charge of PA, WI, MI, and GA

      Circuit Courts have been Reassigned

      Effective November 20, 2020, ordered pursuant to Title 28, United States Code, Section 42

      MI – Brett M. Kavanaugh
      WI – Amy Coney Barrett
      PA – Samuel A. Alito
      GA – Clarence Thomas

    741. sane_voter says:

      Garcia is the incumbent in CA-25. he won a special election earlier this year to replace the disgraced Katie Hill.

      Apparently Garcia claimed victory this evening. Smith did not concede.
      https://www.dailynews.com/2020/11/20/garcias-lead-is-up-a-tick-as-vote-count-in-tight-25th-congress-race-nears-finish-line/

    742. Cash Cow TM says:

      Sidney Powell interview.

      https://www.facebook.com/?sk=h_chr

    743. Ivanka T says:

      Great job this week, Rudy. You really let it rip!

    744. lisab says:

      so minnesota is closed. i had a fun thing though.

      in minnesota a lot of school power is in the hands of administrators, as opposed to principals. i don’t know why, but we have a lot of “directors and coordinators of xyz”

      so i had been helping with after school programs. pay is pathetic, but it was for fun.

      i got assigned to work with day care for essential workers children — during the close down. i refused, because it is horrible duty. it is babysitting.

      so i got called on the carpet by a “coordinator” who told me that according to the districts contract they were within their rights to require me to work day care

      until … i reminded them i am a teacher who does not have to work 1 second after school at all.

      boy were they pissed 🙂

    745. CamRep says:

      Patriots—this Conspiracy goes deeper than we could have ever thought! We now kNOW that one of the states that Joe Biden “won” was actually “represented” once in Congress by—wait for it—John McCain, a noted Socialist-Marxist-Radical Environmentalist! In the Great State of Arizona, he personally voted in some of the poleing places used by Patriotic Voters in November! We know what that means, people. Fraud!

      And now they have poisoned the Son with a substance, like they did the Father. All in their Satanic plot to push the Lies that the “virus” is real. But they didn’t count on the Great Trump Immune Systems. They cannot and will not be defeated.

      The best is yet to come!!!

    746. Gordon Allen says:

      Jason. Weren’t absentee ballots the solution for missing an election because of travel?
      Florida has had absentee ballot IMG,and noi early voting; the DIFFERENCES being you have to APPLY for them, so your eligibility can be checked,and we have signature matching; and they have to be received by 8pm on election day. No problem here.
      Had other states used these safeguards much grief could have been avoided. Democrat run States want no part of such safeguards. Wonder why?

    747. jason says:

      ason. Weren’t absentee ballots the solution for missing an election because of travel?”

      Not really, unless you knew for sure you were going to travel. In my case, I always early voted in case a trip came up and it was too late to vote absentee.

      Early voting is not really subject to fraud like VBM, the rules are the same as same day voting.

    748. jason says:

      #CA21 David Valadao
      #CA39 Young Kim
      #CA48 Michelle Park Steel
      #FL26 Carlos Gimenez
      #FL27 Maria Elvira Salazar
      #IA01 Ashley Hinson
      #MN07 Michelle Fischbach
      #NM02 Yvette Herrell
      #NY11 Nicole Malliotakis
      #OK05 Stephanie Bice
      #SC01 Nancy Mace
      #UT04 Burgess Owens

      Ok, 12 pickups for the GOP, – 3 losses, net 9

      Tenney and Meeks would make it net 11

      The other races where the GOP is ahead but not called involve incumbents.

    749. jason says:

      Interesting article on TX redistricting.

      The one danger is if the GOP loses both runoffs seats in GA, the Dems can pass their bogus “Voting Rights Act” which would again put TX under the supervision of a far left DOJ.

      https://www.texastribune.org/2020/11/13/texas-redistricting-house-republicans-democrats/

    750. Cam Rep. says:

      Sorry, my situation is like Rudy G’s.

      I don’t have any new material and have nothing to talk about so all my posts are reruns.

      I am duty bound to post something, just ignore them until I get new material.’

      We are hoping for a troll workshop soon, bear with us.

    751. jason says:

      Heh, looks like a third of Dems are honest….

      “According to a Rasmussen poll conducted November 17-18, nearly half of likely voters, 47 percent, believe the election was stolen from Trump. If Joe Biden is ultimately certified as the winner, there will undoubtedly be a big fat asterisk on his presidency. This should be very concerning for Joe Biden. President George W. Bush had the 2000 election cast a dark shadow over his presidency, with many Democrats to this day refusing to acknowledge his presidency as legitimate. If Biden is confident in the legitimacy of the results as they stand now, he should be willing to let the process continue, and should publicly express his support for this.

      But, Joe Biden’s problems are not simply because many Republicans believe the election was stolen. It’s true that the poll showed a significant partisan divide on this issue: 75 percent of Republicans believe it is very likely (61 percent) or somewhat likely (14 percent) that the election was stolen from Trump. But, according to the poll, while 69 percent of Democrats say it is not at all likely (61 percent) or not very likely (8 percent) that the election was stolen from Trump, 30 percent of Democrats believe it is very likely (20 percent) or somewhat likely (10 percent) that it was.”

    752. dblaikie says:

      Well it seems that Kemp is starting to come round. Maybe his talk with Pence made a difference! He is now calling for an audit of the SIGNATURES on the ballots. Oh but of course to the troll, Robbie’ s and some others on this site who just “want to move on” this is not important. Here is the link:https://www.theepochtimes.com/georgia-governor-calls-for-audit-of-signatures-on-ballot-envelopes_3588017.html/amp?__twitter_impression=true

    753. jason says:

      And this is with the MSM completely refusing to report on the fraud evidence.

      Imagine if we had a fair MSM, those numbers would even be higher.

    754. jason says:

      Well it seems that Kemp is starting to come round.”

      That would be great.

      And very helpful to Loeffler and Perdue.

    755. Pitchaboy says:

      One way or another this election was a farce of banana republic proportions. Either it is a coup by fraud or a coup by strategy. Take your pick.

    756. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #777- jason & others:
      Now look at this and dare anyone to tell you that there was no mischief going on in GA during the post-election day counting of absentee ballots in Fulton County.
      This misinformation without intervention by GA’s Governor and Secreatary of State dtove the GOP’s two Senate candidates to forcefully criticize the Gov. and SOS.

      7K left in Fulton at 1:20pm on Nov 5th
      27K left in Fulton at 11:26am on Nov 6th
      27K left in Fulton at 9:24pm on Nov 5th
      7K left in Fulton at 10:16pm on Nov 5th

      Read it twice. Three times if you have to.
      More and more ballots kept mysteriously showing up!

    757. dblaikie says:

      It is amazing to me that here in this country that proclaims a “fair and free” press I am getting a real taste of what propoganda can do. In the media world of CNN et. al. Trump has been revealed as a luny goon, desperately clinging to power. It is amazing to me that with so little information people easily succomb to the picture they wish to paint.

      But if you pay attention to what is really going on, and get a brain, and look at the facts itself another picture is forming. You just read about the change of heart with Kemp. In Michigan certifying this election because of voter discrepancies in Detroit is tenuous and even doubtful. In Pennsylvania the Legislature is calling for a full audit of the votes where even 3 dems voted for the audit. And yesterday Dominion Software Execs refused to come testify to the Legislature concerning this. That is fishy to say the least.

      Propoganda would have you believe that nothing is happening other than Trump and his followers, who need to go to a reeducation camp, are showing themselves to be stupid idiots. However if you get beyond the spin, stuff is happening.

    758. jason says:

      So what will happen today at HHR.

      1) Trolls will continue to post the same old tired posts that weren’t funny the first time, let alone the 200th time.

      2) Robbie will insist fraud was not possible although only 42k votes in 3 states where millions of VBM votes occurred separate Trump from victory.

      3) Tgca will provide expert analysis on a variety of subjects. He will counter Bitter’s comment on giving up human food to explain that he read where rabbits and rodents did extremely well eating rabbit and rodent food, so the proof is in the pudding.

      4) dblaikie will have several posts that will make elevate morale among those that believe in the integrity of elections.

      5) CDM will have some post that although true, are depressing.

      6) jason will continue to dazzle his many admirers with his brilliance.

    759. Country Dick Montana says:

      “5) CDM will have some post that although true, are depressing.”

      That is funny. Sorry for being a downer. This will be my one and only post of the weekend. Promised Mrs. CDM that I would get around to the things that she needs me to do.

    760. dblaikie says:

      And by the way, I think that Robbie, the Joseph Gobbles of this site is despicable in the way he has written about Rudy G. As a US Attorney in the Southern District of New York, he was instrumental in breaking up the mobs and the corruption in the City. As mayor of New York City crime went way down and he made it a safe to live, work, and visit. During 9/11 in my view he was a hero. I will never forget his answer to a reporter who asked him how many people died? He responded, “Ma’am, whatever the number it is too many.”

      So let me put this bluntly to Robbie, no matter what happens in this mess Rudy deserves our respect and thanks for what he has done for this country. And it is you, Robbie, who reveal yourself as a small, mean, low information or intellect person in what you have implied about him. Shame on You!

    761. jason says:

      So it looks like the GOP will have 212/213 seats in the House, 213 if Tenney, Meeks and Garcia prevail.

      The other 2 uncalled races are in LA where the GOP is sure to win and NY1 where Zeldin is a slam dunk.

      There will certainly be at least 5 very endangered Dems that might not want to sign onto the more radical proposals, but whether they will resist the pressure is another story.

    762. jason says:

      And by the way, I think that Robbie, the Joseph Gobbles of this site”

      LOL

    763. LivintheDream says:

      785 – As I have said a few times previously, the Republicans will have 212 or 213 seats. This is before a conclusion is reached on the various challenges coming. Everyone is focused on what the President is doing but understand that there are several seats that are now sitting with a Dem where the vote was very close and may be get reversed on a challenge such as Sparnsbarger in Va with thousands of late arriving votes. When you add what will happen to several of the moderate Dems in redistricting, it would not be a surprise for the Reps to get very close to 218 in the next several months. The media won’t report it but it doesn’t make it any less true.

    764. dblaikie says:

      In proving I can post about other issues. Just like 4 years ago when we saw it happening with Republicans, we are going to see lots dems retiring and not seeking reelection in two years. This will be true no matter who is President. The blunt fact is that this last election has proved beyond doubt the Democratic Party has moved way left of where this Country is. The fact is that unless they are successful in cheating 2022 is going to be a bloodbath for them.

    765. Tgca says:

      782

      Jadon misspelled IGNORANCE in #6 of his post.

    766. jason says:

      Rudy Giuliani is the type of R that Robbie always pretended to like. A socially liberal, politically moderate R never associated with the hated right wing of the party.

      His only crime: loyalty to Trump.

      For that, Robbie finds it expedient to trash a man with a remarkable career and extraordinary record of accomplishments.

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    767. Tgca says:

      Why is Jadon always a day or more late with his nearly verbatim analyses of my earlier posted analyses? Hmmm…and he rants about Biden plagiarism.

      I guess I should take it as a compliment that others wish to copy you but clearly he lacks the authoritative EXPERTise I provide in my posts.

    768. dblaikie says:

      Here is the quote of the day, from Slow Joe himself:

      “Here’s the deal: Because President Trump refuses to concede and is delaying the transition, we have to fund it ourselves and need your help.

      If you’re able, chip in to help fund the Biden-Harris transition.”

      Go for it Robbie!!

    769. CrocPhilCollins says:

      Random observer for over a decade.

      Finish the fight. There was obvious fraud.

      Jason is the man.

      Don’t give up Country Dick. Washington didn’t give up before Trenton.

      Robbie is a turd

    770. jason says:

      but understand that there are several seats that are now sitting with a Dem where the vote was very close and may be get reversed on a challenge such as Sparnsbarger in Va with thousands of late arriving votes.”

      Spanberger is 8k votes ahead, even “thousands of late vote” are not changing that.

      What other races do you think Rs could win on late votes?

      I really don’t see any.

      It is too bad Spanberger, Lamb and Malinowski won such close races.

      Had they lost, the house could indeed have been in jeopardy for the Dems.

    771. jason says:

      Jason is the man”

      Suck it, Tgca.

      Expertise only goes so far is the moral of the story.

    772. Tgca says:

      So I see Jadon is now posting under CrocPhilCollins too. Geez!

      Maybe Robbie is really Mitt Romney. You just can’t tell these days who is who anymores. I tell ya.

    773. CrocPhilCollins says:

      I assure you I am not Jason. Been here since 08 with The whole Dick Morris/Polaris unskewing deal. Maybe I’ll start posting.

      Robbie is a turd

      – CrocPhilCollins

    774. jason says:

      Imagine if the Senate released a report like this on Don Jr. and Trump was ahead in the election.

      The MSM would be on it 24/7.

      Biden? Crickets.

      “These new records confirm the connections between the Biden family and the communist Chinese government, as well as the links between Hunter Biden’s business associates and the Russian government, and further support the Committees’ September 23, 2020 report’s finding that such relationships created counterintelligence and extortion concerns.”

      And, the issue is not going away, thankfully. Sen. Johnson told Just the News:

      “Our report obviously raised serious questions and broke a logjam of information, and now we have whistleblowers coming forward with new information showing even more troubling ties back to the Chinese government, Russia’s Rosneft and possibly the People’s Liberation Army,” the senator said. “… These are the people that Hunter Biden associated with and Joe Biden knew full well his family was engaged with.”

    775. jason says:

      I am not CrocPhilCollins.

      Tgca can GFH.

    776. jason says:

      Maybe I’ll start posting.”

      Welcome.

      Ignore Tgca. You would be cranky too after a breakfast of organic tree bark swimming in organic maple syrup.

    777. CrocPhilCollins says:

      Thanks. Jason, I know all the players here. Prob lurk just as much as the regular posters.

      On a side note, I met Wissing seven years ago at the MDGOP convention. Called him out. Looked like a deer in headlights.

    778. jason says:

      “Prior to the Nov. 3 elections 67 percent of individuals who are professing Republicans had a favorable disposition towards Fox News. This plummeted to 54 percent just one week after the election according to a morning consult survey.”

      Keep biting the hand that feeds you.

      I don’t watch much cable TV, but instead of FNC I am giving OAN and Newsmax a shot.

    779. jason says:

      I know all the players here.”

      Robbie is a turd”

      Yep, looks like you do.

    780. jason says:

      Dave used to invite us to some MD GOP events. I thought of going a few times since I am really only 20 miles from the MD border but something or other always came up.

      Dave is a good guy, he provides this forum for us. I am sorry he is a Never Trumper but nobody is perfect.

    781. CrocPhilCollins says:

      Wissing is better than most MDGOPErs. Plenty are mindless NeverTrumpers who suck on the big government teet. Several C-level people in positions of power. Look at the minority leaders. Sheesh.

      Then there is NeverTrump Hogan who beat two extremely weak opponents. Hogan really enjoys handing out favors. Especially in the marijuana business.

    782. Paul says:

      Trump should be tried for treason and put in front of a firing squad for how he has handled this election.

    783. Wes says:

      Weren’t you telling us Alaska would be “very close,” Paul? How’d that work out?

    784. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #806- Paul
      Do you have at least a High School education? Your comment is,at best, childish.
      Keep on embarrassing yourself,pal! You provide the comedic relief at HHR.

    785. Paul says:

      Sheeple, you don’t know anything. You are going along with Trump’s fraud. You are just an anti-American hater. And haters gonna hate.

    786. Paul says:

      Wes,
      Biden is still going to win Alaska.

    787. Phil says:

      806

      Yeah, Paul. Stalin would approve. In fact, line up every one who served in Trump’s administration up against a wall and gun them down.

      It’s a good way for ol Joe to obtain his unity. Kill off the opposition and the only ones left will all agree, Great way to assure unity in the country.

      People like you are dangerous. Get some help, man.

    788. jason says:

      Paul is self loathing scum.

    789. Paul says:

      Phil, I like the way you think.

    790. Phil says:

      Paul is one sick totalitarian MF.

    791. Paul says:

      812: Jason.
      I have been a consistent self-loathing scum at Hedgehog for over a decade. That is something!!

    792. Paul says:

      There was a chunk of the Obama years when I went on with my life without showing up here much.

    793. jason says:

      I have been a consistent self-loathing scum at Hedgehog for over a decade. That is something!!”

      The advantage of setting a really low bar for yourself is that you can sometimes reach it.

    794. jason says:

      There was a chunk of the Obama years when I went on with my life without showing up here much”

      Nobody noticed.

    795. Pitchaboy says:

      As the fog lifts slowly the strategy is getting clearer. D have done their bit with fraud. DJT will get enough states to not send electors and keep SloJo below 270. This will be from MI, WI, PA, GA, AZ n some combination. SloJo will have two choices: lose in the House and resist DJT totally for 4 years with a bitterly divided nation or sue him in SC. Force him to prove fraud, although technically DJT does not have to prove it if both are below 270 electors.

    796. Bitterlaw says:

      I would like to meet Dave and the other posters. I have met MD, Walt, and WV Ally.

    797. jason says:

      Hope that works.

      Trump still with a 15% chance at Predictit so not everyone is convinced it is a done deal.

    798. jason says:

      Bitter says that but never actually invited me. He is worried his rich Biden voting neighbors will see a York license plate near his house and think less of him.

    799. jason says:

      Bitter, we actually should meet. I have worked on some successful campaigns and might be able to give you some ideas for your race. No, it does not involve giving free llama rides to the neighborhood kids.

    800. jason says:

      Wes,
      Biden is still going to win Alaska”

      I hear he has high hopes for Greenland too. He is encouraged no same day voting was reported there, which means all ballots will be VBM where he has a big advantage.

    801. Wes says:

      Let’s make a bet on the success of that strategy, Pitch.

    802. Wes says:

      Sure, Paul. I’m absolutely certain Biden will carry Alaska. 🙄

    803. Bitterlaw says:

      Damn. I was hoping to have llamas at my first campaign rally. Alpacas are too elitist. Llamas appeal to everybody.

    804. Paul says:

      pitchaboy: I don’t think that will work in enough states (or in any states). They won’t go against the certified results in their states.

    805. Paul says:

      Any lawyers know whether the electoral winner is the majority of electoral votes present to vote or the majority of electoral votes both present and absent?

      So for example, if Michigan doesn’t send electors, does the magic number get reduced to 262 or does it stay at 270?

    806. Wes says:

      How about ibexes, Bitter?

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibex

      OR are they too Old World for you.

    807. Wes says:

      The President-elect must have an absolute majority of the total potential votes of the Electoral College to be the winner, Paul. Even if several states fail to send Electors, the current number needed remains at 270. Otherwise the House decides the winner of the presidential election while the Senate decides the winner of the vice-presidential election.

    808. Marv says:

      Morning folks.

    809. Paul says:

      Thanks, Wes.
      Sounds like you are right.
      “The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed” 12th Amendment

    810. Pitchaboy says:

      No bets Wes. I am not convinced it works. But, I believe it is his strategy.

    811. Paul says:

      Pitchaboy: Getting three states to not send electors will be hard. But crazy things do happen.

    812. dblaikie says:

      Like I have been posting once one domino falls the next will come much quicker. The first domino might be because of deadlock with the Canvassing Board no certification in Michigan. Another domino might be the new spine that Kemp is developing and certainly in the audit that is going to take place in Pennsylvania. Who knows what domino might fall from the Federal and Supreme Court?

      Now if the audits check out and the cases go nowhere I will be first to concede and hope that their will be a miracle that the Biden Admin. will not harm our country. However we are nowhere near that point yet.

      The heart of this whole matter is was this election free and fair? Or are there thousands and thousands of votes that were not valid? For our Judges and Legislature’s that is going to be both an ethical and political decision. If a large majority of the GOP believes that this election was not fair there will be great pressure on those legislature to appoint their own electors. If at the end of the litigation and audits the majority don’t believe there was enough fraud the members will simply appoint a Biden slate.

      Right now when you strip away the propaganda, there is a good chance that some these states will not make the deadline to certify. So my position is clear. If they conduct these audits litigate these issues and they come out showing no fraud, Trump needs to concede and we all need to get used to saying President Biden. However if it comes out the other way and this election, like I believe, was not free and fair then our only remedy will be the Constitutional one which gives the State Legislatures the power to conduct elections.

    813. Bitterlaw says:

      Once the precedent of switching electors is established, no election will be certain again until the EC votes. Remember in 2016 when HHR howled at efforts by Dems to get electors to switch their votes to Hillary? Apparently not.

    814. Wes says:

      Hey! “Family Values” Cal actually won something! He’s the RRH Turkey of the Year!

      https://rrhelections.com/

    815. pitchaboy says:

      As a matter of practicality, DB, they may need to show massive fraud in one of these conested states. That gives cover for the other states to call the process into question. The remedy will then be constitutional and likely preceded by a suit in the SC.

    816. Paul says:

      dblaikie: Kemp has already signed the vote certification. There will be an audit and recount, but it won’t change anything. So, I think Georgia legislators will have no choice but to send Biden electors.

    817. pitchaboy says:

      BL: Nobody is switching electors here Bitter. If there is fraud involved, there will be no electors from the state in question. This fight has to be fought here and now. If you dont, every future election will be won by fraud and will have a cloud over the President.

    818. pitchaboy says:

      For better or for worse, close to half the country believes major fraud is involved. In one poll, almost a quarter of democrats believe fraud was involved. Without the help of the MSM, DJT has done this, without any of the allegations being proved. If he hs one state where he can show clear evidence of massive fraud, he is home free. Public opinion will be strongly on his side.

    819. Bitterlaw says:

      I did not say to avoid the fight. Just understand that every action has an unpredictable consequence.

    820. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #809-Paul
      “Sheeple, you don’t know anything. You are going along with Trump’s fraud. You are just an anti-American hater. And haters gonna hate.”

      So anyone who supports a duly elected President named Donald Trump is a hater and anti-American even if he or she has been seriously wounded in combat?!
      You are quite the despicable schmuck,aren’t you?!!!
      Boy, am I glad that I am NOT you!

    821. jason says:

      Remember in 2016 when HHR howled at efforts by Dems to get electors to switch their votes to Hillary? ”

      False equivalency….

      The reason to do this was that Hillary had won the popular vote.

      This is not the same situation at all, if the legislature believes the results are tainted by fraud they could legally switch the electors.

      I am not saying it will happen or even that I think this is the right strategy, but it is not comparing apples and oranges.

    822. Bitterlaw says:

      So it begins. I am meeting with the head of the Radnor GOP to discuss running for Congress.

    823. Gordon Allen says:

      On important and relevant news the Clemson v Florida State game was postponed- probably cancelled- because ONE player tested positive for COVD!!! You must be kidding!! Actually,I by Florida State cancelled because they were going to get beat 50-0,but seriously !!.

    824. Bitterlaw says:

      Democrats play to win. In 2024, they will try to nullify the vote in Texas claiming fraud and voter suppression. I agree that it is extremely likely that there was fraud in this election. The problem is that we are running out of time to do something about changing the result in this election.

      Don’t forget that Democrats have a backup plan if public outrage forces Biden and Harris to resign. President Pelosi.

    825. mnw says:

      Keep giving the trolls attention, fellas. THAT will show them!

      /s

      I believe their goal is to run off all of the regular, non-troll posters, those who are sick of their posts AND your responses to them.

    826. Robbie says:

      Still waging a fight over choosing a rival slate of electors I see. I guess striking out with the Michigan legislative leaders was just a feint to get the press off the scent, right?

      Trump came up short, he’s provided no evidence of fraud in a court or law, and as I pointed out yesterday his lawyers have said repeatedly in courts of law that they are not alleging fraud.

      Sydney Powell is a huckster who should not be believed. She is not a great legal mind. She’s con artist playing on the fears and emotions of some to benefit herself. Because of the junk she has pushed in the name of Trump she will become a star on the right, though. That won’t get Trump the presidency, but it will line her pocketbook and that was her sole aim.

    827. VictrC says:

      Bitter

      In what district will you run. My Government affairs guy is now located in Philly. Albeit he’s a dem I bet he’d help out some if I asked him to. He’s done lots of congressional campaigns and get you pointed in the right direction.

    828. jason says:

      wes, some of those awards on RRH are pretty funny.

      I never read that site, but enjoyed the awards.

      I especially liked these:

      The “Aleppo Gary” Johnson Award for lack of familiarity with basic world events goes to Barbara Bollier for not knowing what the Patriot Act was.

      The Jeb Bush Award for waste of donor money goes jointly to Amy McGrath and Jaime Harrison for their $200M in wasted Democratic small-donor funds.

      The Martha Coakley Award for campaign incompetence goes to Sara Gideon for winning every poll except the only poll that mattered.

      The John R. Brinkley Prize in Medicine and the Jim Wright Prize in Literature both go to Andrew Cuomo for publishing his literary classic about how he successfully pushed his state’s COVID death rate to the highest in the nation.

    829. Robbie says:

      On a different subject, I think the Fall wave of coronavirus has peaked nationally. That may not be true is every one of the 50 states, but nationally, the numbers have plateaued and a decline will hopefully begin in the next 10 to 14 days.

    830. jason says:

      Bitter will be tough to beat in the 5th District.

    831. Robbie says:

      dblaikie says:
      November 21, 2020 at 8:48 am
      And by the way, I think that Robbie, the Joseph Gobbles of this site is despicable in the way he has written about Rudy G.

      – So now a devout Christian is calling me a Nazi because I don’t support Trump’s wild and unverified claims of fraud and have mocked Rudy’s descent into conspiratorial madness.

      Yet, poor dblaikie has convinced himself state legislators are going to usurp the votes of the people and elect rival slates of electors that will keep Trump in the presidency.

      This place is amazing.

    832. jason says:

      Trump came up short, he’s provided no evidence of fraud in a court or law, and as I pointed out yesterday his lawyers have said repeatedly in courts of law that they are not alleging fraud.”

      Zzzzzzzz…… BS.

      Let’s forget MI and PA for a second, although the evidence of massive fraud is very clear in both of them.

      Let’s just take AZ, GA and WI, which would be enough to award Trump the win.

      A total of 42k votes in these three states is deciding the election. A swing of 22k votes.

      Out of 11 million cast.

      Are you saying with a straight face that with all the VBM fraud issues that have risen you don’t think it is possible that 42k votes were stolen in these 3 states.

      Really?

    833. Robbie says:

      Gordon Allen says:
      November 20, 2020 at 2:46 pm
      Robbie really is terminally dumb. Shockingly so. The nonsense about Guilliani swearing off fraud is brain dead.

      – Can you point me to one instance where Trump’s lawyers have alleged fraud in a court of law under oath in front of a judge?

    834. Bitterlaw says:

      Thanks for the offers of assistance. I know I can win. Unless the outcome of the election depends upon coaching a softball game. That makes it more difficult.

    835. jason says:

      So now a devout Christian is calling me a Nazi ”

      Spare me the fake outrage.

      He didn’t say you were a Nazi.

      He rightfully said you are using Goebbels tactics of repeating a lie over and over in the expectation it will be deemed true.

      A perfect depiction of your antics.

      Although I prefer Baghdad Robbie.

    836. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 21, 2020 at 9:02 am
      Rudy Giuliani is the type of R that Robbie always pretended to like. A socially liberal, politically moderate R never associated with the hated right wing of the party.

      – LOL! I never supported Rudy for anything. I opposed his presidential candidacy in 2008 precisely because he was a pro-choice Republican with a long history of outlandish activities. For instance, his wife found out she and Rudy were getting a divorce when Rudy held a press conference to announce he was getting a divorce. What a man of honor.

    837. RB says:

      RCP calls CA-21 for the GOP ….flip #13 with a net of 10..,Nancy Pelosi will be herding cats this upcoming cycle

    838. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 21, 2020 at 1:17 pm
      Let’s just take AZ, GA and WI, which would be enough to award Trump the win.

      A total of 42k votes in these three states is deciding the election. A swing of 22k votes.

      Out of 11 million cast.

      Are you saying with a straight face that with all the VBM fraud issues that have risen you don’t think it is possible that 42k votes were stolen in these 3 states.

      Really?

      – If what you say is true, why did Trump’s lawyers in Arizona say these things?

      “In Maricopa County, Ariz., home to Phoenix, Trump lawyer Kory Langhofer said, “We are not alleging fraud in this lawsuit. … This is not about fraud.”

      “Langhofer said, “We are not alleging anyone is stealing the election.” He added: “It is not a stealing-the-election case.”

      “The voting machine glitches have been central to allegations in Arizona. But Langhofer, while stressing that the Arizona case wasn’t about fraud, said, “The allegation here is that, in what appear to be a limited number of cases, there were good-faith errors in operating machines …”

    839. jason says:

      an you point me to one instance where Trump’s lawyers have alleged fraud in a court of law under oath in front of a judge?”

      LOL

      Nice dodge and parsing but that dog won’t hunt.

      Many of the suits alleged illegal and FRAUDULENT votes are being counted.

      If illegal and fraudulent votes are allowed, there is one word for it: fraud.

    840. jason says:

      If what you say is true, why did Trump’s lawyers in Arizona say these things?”

      Zzzzz…. out of context BS. There are many different allegations and this was one lawyer covering one of them.

      You are a lying POS.

    841. jason says:

      What a man of honor.”

      Certainly compared to you.

      The moral compass of a floating turd, although now disputed, could be a flushed turd.

    842. Baghdad Robbie says:

      I have not seen ONE fraudulent vote yet in America.

    843. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 21, 2020 at 1:31 pm
      If what you say is true, why did Trump’s lawyers in Arizona say these things?”

      Zzzzz…. out of context BS. There are many different allegations and this was one lawyer covering one of them.

      You are a lying POS.

      – So when I directly quote Trump lawyers, I’m lying? I love this place.

    844. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 21, 2020 at 1:32 pm
      What a man of honor.”

      Certainly compared to you.

      – I enjoy watching you to great lengths to defend Rudy’s garbage lifestyle.

    845. Robbie says:

      If Trump really won the election, should he hold an alternate swearing-in ceremony on January 20, 2021? I’m sure Judge Janine would be willing to swear him into office.

      We can have two presidents just like when the Catholic Church had two popes. One lived in Rome while the other lived in Avignon.

    846. Q says:

      When do the watermarks on the ballots get revealed?

    847. jason says:

      Biden: “I’m going to — we’re going to impose the — we’re going to enforce the — excuse me, employ the defense, reconstruct the act, to be able to go out there and dictate companies build and do following things.”

    848. Paul says:

      You know the thing, Jason.

    849. Gordon Allen says:

      Robbie. In what court was Giuliani where fraud was the issue,and Giuliani waived it? His entire press conference was devoted to fraud.
      C’mon, you’re really over the bend on this one; how about admitting it for once?
      The only case( it would have to be a state court) remotely on point was in Michigan, asking for a denial of certification,and/ or an audit,in Wayne County. As I understand it that was rendered moot by the Wayne County Board denying certification without an audit ( a win)

    850. Robbie says:

      Gordon Allen says:
      November 21, 2020 at 1:50 pm
      Robbie. In what court was Giuliani where fraud was the issue,and Giuliani waived it? His entire press conference was devoted to fraud.

      – Then why has he and Trump’s other lawyers consistently said otherwise before judges and under oath?

      You don’t find it the least bit fishy Rudy claims to have all of this blockbuster information that will overturn the election and create a landslide win for Trump but it’s too hot to divulge to the public? What’s he waiting for?

    851. LizardWillieNelson says:

      Robbie is a turd!

    852. jason says:

      Can you point me to one instance where Trump’s lawyers have alleged fraud in a court of law under oath in front of a judge?”

      Robbie Goebbels strikes against with this shameful canard.

      The suits allege fraudulent votes are being allowed. Which means fraud. If you show fraudulent votes are being allowed, you don’t need to name who perpetrated the fraud, all you need to show is that the votes are fraudulent.

      Robbie thinks this is clever parsing, but it just shows his abject intellectual dishonesty.

      “Trump campaign targets Centre County in lawsuit alleging ‘fraudulent votes’ in Pa.

      Centre County is among seven Pennsylvania counties facing a lawsuit from President Donald Trump’s campaign, alleging the creation of an “illegal two-tiered” voting system used in the 2020 general election.

      The 105-page suit — filed Monday evening — alleges that Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar and the boards of elections in Allegheny, Centre, Chester, Delaware, Philadelphia, Montgomery and Northampton counties held voters to a different standard based on how they cast their vote in the November election.

      “We believe this two tiered election system resulted in potentially fraudulent votes being counted without proper verification or oversight, as well as many voters being disenfranchised simply for casting their votes in person,” Matt Morgan, Trump campaign general counsel, said in a statement. “We will not stop fighting for transparency and integrity in our electoral process and ensuring all Americans can trust in the results of a free and fair election.”

    853. Rudy G. says:

      All in due time. I have BOMBSHELL in ARIZONA!

      I have proof that JOHN MCCAIN voted in the election!

      I am the best laywer.

      I’ll be showing my proof at the next presser in front of the Dildo SuperStore. Oh hey by the way, dildos are 50% off today.

    854. jason says:

      Trump but it’s too hot to divulge to the public? What’s he waiting for?”

      LOL

      This from the lying POS who said he watched the presser but then has been lying about its contents ever since.

    855. Rudy G says:

      As I said earlier, we trolls are out of new material and they have not convened the workshop yet where we will be fed some new lies to distribute.

      Please just skip over my posts until further notice.

      Thanks.

      We hope to have something soon.

    856. Gordon Allen says:

      Prove that! And CNN is not a source btw. What other lawyers for Trump,and what cases? I know only 3 filed by Trump: Michigan, referred to above, Pennsylvania ( pending on constitutional issues),and Nevada. If you mean fraud the claim that courts and the executive branch can’t change laws passed by thy legislature, they’ve been consistent on that; that might be considered fraud by some, although I don’t; just illegal.
      You’re really pathological about Trump; did he fire you personally??

    857. jason says:

      – I enjoy watching you to great lengths to defend Rudy’s garbage lifestyle.”

      Fascinating.

      Can you point to ONE post where I ever commented on Rudy’s lifestyle.

      I will assume if you can’t do so you admit to being a pathological liar.

    858. Rudy G. says:

      Can anyone recommend a good mascara? I used to have a good one back when I cross-dressed. But I forgot the brand. Was is Covergirl?

      The one I used a few days ago was not good. It ran down my face.

    859. jason says:

      be able to go out there and dictate companies build and do following things”

      Breaking.

      Biden announces most manufacturing plants in the US will be building ventilators for the next 2 years.

      In the event of another pandemic, every home will have 3 ventilators.

    860. Rudy G says:

      I apologize.

      I know that wasn’t funny but what can I do, I already repeated my best material, mediocre to start, 276 times.

      Don’t judge me please, I am just a stupid troll doing his best.

    861. jason says:

      Still waiting for Robbie to answer this.

      Yes or no.

      “A total of 42k votes in these three states is deciding the election. A swing of 22k votes.

      Out of 11 million cast.

      Are you saying with a straight face that with all the VBM fraud issues that have risen you don’t think it is possible that 42k votes were stolen in these 3 states.

      Really?”

    862. Phil says:

      Wonder how Robbie is going to take it when the runoff election is stolen in Fulton County in January when just enough late counted VBM are found to overtake Republican leads of election night….you know, when there is no fraud…again.

      Maybe Robbie thinks Democrats would not do that to a couple of his country club Republicans….LOL.

      Boy, is he in for a rude awakening. Of course, when it happens to Trump Robbie just blows it off. Let’s see how he takes it when Trump isn’t involved. My guess is he’ll just blow it off like he blows off any other Republican loss fraud or no fraud.

      Robbie, Romney, Sasse….all every Democrat’s favorite Republicans.

    863. dblaikie says:

      I see Robbie has slithered back again spreading propaganda. First those cases where Rudy stated it was about fraud, he was right, it wasn’t it was about voter irregularities. Those were earlier cases. The cases alleging fraud were just filed a couple days ago. Second no-one in their right mind was thinking that the Mich. Leg. were going to come out and say Biden didn’t win. What they said was they saw nothing YET to convince them. In four years Robbie has never tried to figure out how Trump works. Let me explain it to you: he is a master of misdirection and while the media runs off on a rabbit trail of DJT’s making he strikes in a way no-one suspects. Robbie, please understand if the Michigan Canvassers don’t certify Trump will already have won. Heck, he won a huge battle in Detroit when the two GOP Canvassers rescinded their vote to certify. It points to fraud. And guess what no one expected them to do that a week ago. Finally I see you are laying off Rudy and now libeling Sidney Powell. Typical snake like move Dr. Goebbels.

    864. dblaikie says:

      stated not about fraud

    865. lisab says:

      Robbie Goebbels strikes against with this shameful canard.
      —————–

      jason,

      it is mr. gobbles to you!

    866. lisab says:

      Wonder how Robbie is going to take it when the runoff election is stolen in Fulton County in January when just enough late counted VBM are found to overtake Republican leads of election night….you know, when there is no fraud…again.
      ———————-

      phil,

      robbie is a dem

      he will be thrilled

    867. mnw says:

      I’m not going to let Robbie walk away from this recent post of his, unless he either backs it up (impossible), or admits he just made it up & posted it with no factual basis whatsoever:

      “the Trump voters mad that their man lost now rooting for the Republican Senate candidates in GA to lose”

      Robbie? Back to you.

    868. Meldrim says:

      The reason why some sources say that if Garcia holds in CA-25 abd Tenney and Meeks pick up NY-22 and IA-02, respectively, that it will give the GOP a net pickup of 11 seats, while others call it a net pickup of 12 seats, is that the former are not calling Meijer’s victory in MI-03 (held by former Republican and current Libertarian Justin Amash) a GOP pickup while the latter consider it a GOP pickup (albeit from the Libertarians, not the Democrats).

    869. Cash Cow TM says:

      Bitter,

      Walt said he would later send you a private message on Facebook with some ideas he used to win his races.

      Walt and Cow wish you the best in your run!
      **********************************************
      [P.S.I (Cash Cow) have a setup in Walt’s office where I could mail in thousands of PA absentee ballots for you]

    870. mnw says:

      Pelosi won’t have many “Get Out of Jail Free” cards to pass out next time, i.e., tacit permission for DEMs to vote against important DEM legislative initiatives because their votes are not needed.

    871. Pitchaboy says:

      Robbie=Paul=GatorBoy =RudyG.
      Different names, same theme.

    872. jason says:

      The person Robbie called a “huckster”.’

      I think what he really hates about her is “born into working class family”.

      “Sidney Katherine Powell was born into a working-class family in Durham, North Carolina, grew up in the city of Raleigh. and knew from an early age that she wanted to be a lawyer. She graduated from Needham Broughton High School and went on to attend the University of North Carolina, where she earned a Bachelor of Arts degree, funding her education with student loans. At the age of 19, she was accepted into the University of North Carolina School of Law, where she graduated in 1978 with a Juris Doctor degree.[8] She began her legal career as the youngest United States Attorney in the US.

      From 1978 through 1988, Powell served as an Assistant United States Attorney for the Western and Northern Districts of Texas and the Eastern District of Virginia, where she handled civil and criminal trial work. She was appointed Appellate Section Chief for the Western and then the Northern District of Texas.

      In 1993, Powell established her own law firm in Dallas, Texas, aimed mostly at federal appellate practice, including in the United States Supreme Court. Her firm has also handled a number of high-profile class action suits. She has served as lead counsel in more than 500 appeals in the Fifth Circuit courts, resulting in more than 18 published opinions and a reversals rate of approximately 70%.

      Powell also writes and teaches in the area of federal appellate law practice, including work for the Attorney General’s Advocacy Institute of the United States Department of Justice. She is a member of the American Law Institute and a Fellow of the American Academy of Appellate Lawyers, where she served as president from 2001 to 2002.”

    873. Pitchaboy says:

      The first domino?

    874. lisab says:

      Walt said he would later send you a private message on Facebook with some ideas he used to win his races.
      ———————-

      an opossum in every pot?

    875. Gordon Allen says:

      Sydney Powell, after a week of torture by ISIS,with a migraine headache,and a severed limb is more capable at what she does that her preposterous critic here. Huckster is MSM lingo for any Republican who fights them,and especially anyone working in behalf of Trump.
      Lefties, lacking the knowledge and ability to argue the merits,or substance of an argument, invariably resort to ad hominem attacks; it’s their Modus Operandi.

    876. Sexy Sydney Powell says:

      I love you guys. You are all so nice. Let’s TAKE OUR COUNTRY BACK!

    877. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Oh yes, after weeks of promising new bombshells and just wait and see comments, I’m sure this Georgia lawsuit is the real deal. I’ll be unable to sleep tonight worried about it.

      Especially when it is a Newsmax story. Was national enquirer unavailable for comment?

    878. Cash Cow TM says:

      Modus Operandi
      Modus Operandi

      O I’m a dud person!

      mouse did rap on!

    879. Sexy Sydney Powell says:

      Excuse me but News Max is 100% TRUTH.

      All other outlets are just leftist propoganda!

    880. jason says:

      NBC, 2019.

      “The source of the nation’s voting machines has become an urgent issue because of real fears that hackers, whether foreign or domestic, might tamper with the mechanics of the voting system.

      That has led to calls for ES&S and its competitors, Denver-based Dominion Voting Systems and Austin, Texas-based Hart Intercivic, to reveal details about their ownership and the origins of the parts, some of which come from China, that make up their machines.”

    881. Pitchaboy says:

      No Sexy, CNN is the Word.

    882. jason says:

      People who believe MSNBC and CNN feel like they can be critical of Newsmax?

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    883. CrocPhilCollins says:

      Why do the booger eaters appear here as a pack? It’s hardly ever one of them. They show up after an afternoon nap. Just in time for homemade sliced hot dogs and mac & cheese. Nothing like mommy’s cooking.

    884. Gordon Allen says:

      Cash Cow. Ok, maybe to those from Peoria I should have said SOP( standard operating procedure). Is that better?

    885. Paul says:

      909: Croc, It’s the only hours that they let us into the computer room. We have to go to group session shortly so we have to work fast.

    886. jason says:

      US soon to become another Venezuela. Roadkill Maggot will love it.

      “Michigan AG Nessel and others are suggesting that Republicans who oppose certification or even meet with President Trump on the issue could be criminally investigated or charged.”

    887. jason says:

      “Why do the booger eaters appear here as a pack?”

      Hey croc, notice that when you talk about booger eaters someone answers the call?

      “909: Croc, It’s the only hours that they let us into the computer room.”

    888. Paul says:

      Jason, I know my name.

    889. Pitchaboy says:

      https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/state-nevada-total-ballots-cast-1327394-total-presidential-election-votes-1405376.html/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

      77k more votes for President than was cast statewide. Margin of victory: 32k. Per Robbie and his alter egos: nothing to worry about.

    890. Pitchaboy says:

      At this point, banana republics will sue us for libel.

    891. Cash Cow TM says:

      Gordon Allen says:
      November 21, 2020 at 4:07 pm
      Cash Cow. Ok, maybe to those from Peoria I should have said SOP( standard operating procedure). Is that better?
      **********************************
      Gordon Allen,

      My letter rearranging was not meant to be a
      slam to you.
      ##################################
      For YEARS here at HHR, bored Cow has taken a word or phrase and rearranged the letters to spell something.

      It is just something I do to keep from going loco.

    892. Pitchaboy says:

      Read Ken Blackwell’s outline of the electoral heist. Fascinating.

    893. mnw says:

      jason is impressed with Powell’s academic achievements because jason LIKES Powell.

      jason calls Kobach a “moron,” however, despite Kobach having equally impressive academic achievements as Powell’s (at the very least), because our wittle jason DOESN’T like Kobach.

      See? That’s “logic” in jasonworld.

    894. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 21, 2020 at 2:01 pm
      Trump but it’s too hot to divulge to the public? What’s he waiting for?”

      LOL

      This from the lying POS who said he watched the presser but then has been lying about its contents ever since.

      – I watched all one hour and forty minutes. It was like when everyone slows down on the interstate to look at a car wreck. Rudy and Sydney Powell promoted outlandish conspiracies about Hugo Chavez and Germans in German counting the votes and changing them. It was sad and pathetic.

    895. Robbie says:

      dblaikie says:
      November 21, 2020 at 2:19 pm
      I see Robbie has slithered back again spreading propaganda.

      – This is pretty funny coming from a guy who has convinced himself state legislators will elect rival slates of electors to keep Trump in the presidency.

      But in HHR world, if you don’t believe in outlandish conspiracies about Hugo Chavez stealing votes from Trump, you’re Joseph Goebbels. You certainly practice a unique strain of Chritianity.

    896. Robbie says:

      lisab says:
      phil,

      robbie is a dem

      he will be thrilled

      – Bless your heart, honey.

    897. Robbie says:

      mnw says:
      November 21, 2020 at 2:45 pm
      I’m not going to let Robbie walk away from this recent post of his, unless he either backs it up (impossible), or admits he just made it up & posted it with no factual basis whatsoever:

      “the Trump voters mad that their man lost now rooting for the Republican Senate candidates in GA to lose”

      Robbie? Back to you.

      – Haven’t you been reading Country Mountain Dick’s posts. He’s a Trump supporter who is mad Trump lost so he wants both Republicans in Georgia to lose to teach everyone a lesson.

    898. Robbie says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      November 21, 2020 at 3:22 pm
      Robbie=Paul=GatorBoy =RudyG.
      Different names, same theme.

      – Pitch, I’m sorry to read this from you. Whether you want to believe it or not, I voted for Trump. I certainly was not proud of the vote, but I still voted for him.

      But just because I voted for him doesn’t mean I’m going to indulge in wild conspiracy theories about Dominion, Hugo Chavez, or whatever else Rudy and Sydney Powell claimed at their wild press conference the other day.

      Honestly, how is my view any different than yours? I have said for nearly three weeks now that if Trump has evidence of fraud that would change the result then he needs to make it public. Haven’t you said the same thing?

      I draw the line at conspiracy theories and I hope you will as well.

    899. PresidentPaul! says:

      #924
      Why does it matter?

      The point is that having a majority of the GOP believing Biden is a illegitimate president means less Biden judges and hopefully no cabinet picks. It also is making the GOP paranoid about these elections so hopefully they will have the will to fix the processes in some of these states (Florida seemed to go well)

    900. PresidentPaul! says:

      Also you don’t want the GOP believing the unity scam Biden is pushing or negotiating with him on stimulus, etc.

    901. PresidentPaul! says:

      and you don’t want them attending inauguration either.

    902. Paul says:

      I haven’t seen the poster named CG in awhile. I think that was his handle. From Illinois suburbs.

    903. PresidentPaul! says:

      https://redstate.com/bonchie/2020/11/21/michigan-ag-suggests-charging-n283267

      Michigan AG Wants to Criminally Charging Republican Legislators for Meeting With Trump

    904. PresidentPaul! says:

      I found a website you can loan your bitcoin to getting 8.6% interest. So in addition to the bitcoin price going on, you’re also getting interest on loaning it out as a creditor.

      https://blockfi.com/

      the pozi rolls on

    905. PresidentPaul! says:

      The coming coinbase debit card is supposedly going to convert bitcoin directly into whatever currency you are drawing it out into.

      So if you’re in france
      bitcoin—>francs
      If you’re in China
      bitcoin–>yuans

      Skipping US dollars. So if you’re on vacation in wherever, you in theory won’t need to swap currencies.

    906. PresidentPaul! says:

      Ripple up a mere 41% overnight today. How much is the interest is the bank giving you?

      The ponzi rolls.

    907. Gordon Allen says:

      Powell has more than academic achievements; so does Giuliani,which makes them different than Democrat’s or the MSM mouthpieces.

    908. Sexy Sydney Powell says:

      BOOM! Big WIN in PENNSYLVANIA.

      The judge was so smitten with me when I ran my hand through my hair.

      He even called the state’s case “ridiculous”!

    909. Rudy G. says:

      Great job my dear! We did it. We are the best team. All we do is WIN WIN WIN.. so much WINNING!

      Dildos ON ME tonite my dear!

    910. Pitchaboy says:

      Difference is this Robbie: while I want them to put up, I acknowledge there is significant circumstantial evidence of fraud. And I believe exposing it, may be the best thing DJT could do for the country. If it turns out to be a dud, he will be relegated to the dustbin of history.

    911. PresidentPaul! says:

      Shrevechenkos sis is fighting in the prelims soon

    912. Cash Cow TM says:

      “Pitchaboy says:
      November 21, 2020 at 4:29 pm
      https://gellerreport.com/2020/11/state-nevada-total-ballots-cast-1327394-total-presidential-election-votes-1405376.html/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

      77k more votes for President than was cast statewide. Margin of victory: 32k. Per Robbie and his alter egos: nothing to worry about.”

      ORIGIONALLY, I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT VOTES WHERE ONLY PRESIDENT VOTE WAS RECORDED ANDNOTHING DOWN BALLOT.

      BUT I SEE INSTEAD YOU ARE SAYING (NV SOS IS SAYING) THE VOTE TOTALS ARE 77k higher than all votes cast.

      #########################################
      This causes Cow’s eyebrows to raise quite high.

    913. Paul says:

      I’d have to dig further into that, Cash Cow.
      I question why that site is listing the figures from two entirely different sources. And are the two numbers even at the same point in the vote counting.

    914. Paul says:

      It reminds me of the fake chart going around showing that the number of voters being like over 90 percent of registered voters. But they had completely fake numbers for the registered voter column when I compared it to actual registered voter numbers.

    915. Pitchaboy says:

      Inconvenient truths.

    916. Paul says:

      Cash Cow:
      The one thing that immediately jumps out at me is that if you go to the document linked for the first number (Total Ballots), it has a red note at the top that says “AS OF November 10”. The total for president is from a later date than November 10.

    917. Ivanka T says:

      Exclusive interview to Newsmax tonight with bombshell news

      https://youtu.be/J4X2b-CEGNg

    918. Pitchaboy says:

      Cow’s eyebrows stay raised.

    919. Paul says:

      Pitchaboy, don’t speak for Cow.

    920. Robbie says:

      Jamie Weinstein
      @Jamie_Weinstein
      Sydney Powell is currently alleging on Newsmax that Georgia’s Republican governor, Brian Kemp, was paid by Dominion as part of the conspiracy to defeat Donald Trump.

      The Newsmax anchor just said everything she is alleging sounds nuts but who knows it could be true.

      – Big if true.

      Sydney Powell is con artist and a huckster.

      If you believe Trump has a legitimate case to make, then people other than Powell should make it.

    921. Sexy Sydney Powell says:

      It’s not just Kemp. Dominion also paid off Ducey in Arizona and all the Dems!

      Don’t believe me? Check my next presser with Rudy G. right after we are done pleasuring ourselves with the free dildos and beads we picked up today.

    922. Robbie says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      November 21, 2020 at 7:27 pm
      Difference is this Robbie: while I want them to put up, I acknowledge there is significant circumstantial evidence of fraud. And I believe exposing it, may be the best thing DJT could do for the country. If it turns out to be a dud, he will be relegated to the dustbin of history.

      – I have said since election day I’m certain there have been instances of fraud all across the country in all sorts of races. I just don’t believe there is the kind of massive fraud that would overturn millions of votes across multiple state. If it did, wouldn’t Republicans in the House and Senate, especially, have fallen victim to it as well?

      Also, I am no fan of VBM or early vote. I believe voting should take place on election day, not for a month in advance.

      Certainly, there are issues Trump can raise and I have been clear I don’t have any problem with him making them. I haven’t demanded that he concede and give up. I do think, absent any new info, it’s time for Trump to consider how he wraps this up.

      Regardless, he should make legitimate points. Instead, he, Rudy, and Sydney Powell have veered into wild conspiracy theories that include Hugo Chavez’s ghost and, now, accusing Brian Kemp of accepting bribes by Dominion to help defeat Trump.

    923. Robbie says:

      (((AG)))
      @AGHamilton29
      This has been a constant theme. Every person that doesn’t openly support their baseless conspiracy becomes accused of being part of the conspiracy.

      It’s irresponsible for news outlets to keep giving this crazy person a platform & embarrassing for those who keep defending her.

      – This tweet is in reference to the tweet in 947 by Jaime Weinstein.

      Sydney Powell is a huckster and a con artist. I hope everyone here stops paying attention to her.

      If you believe Trump has a real case to make, she is doing great harm to whatever legitimate case he has.

    924. Rob says:

      I really like bubble tea. I feel like it isn’t as appreciated in American markets as it should be. Particularly the boba. I will say that it tends to be overly sweet in the country. A recommendation would be to ask for half sugar and half I’ve on a cold day. lychee flavor is perhaps my favorite. Honeydew is also wonderful. The popping pearls are also quite good if you’re okay with the popping sensation.

      There are many varieties with a wide range of flavors. The two most popular varieties are black pearl milk tea and green pearl milk tea.

    925. Rudy G. says:

      Hillary Clinton used Dominion to defeat Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primary and Bernie Sanders knows this was basically was paid off not to raise the issue.

      Back to the Dildo party!

    926. Rob says:

      Perhaps we could all share our favorite flavors?

    927. RewDee JewLeeOn-E says:

      Not even my dog will sleep in the same bed as me.

    928. jason says:

      ason calls Kobach a “moron,” however, despite Kobach having equally impressive academic achievements as Powell’s”

      Academic? Did he do well in 5th grade?

      ZZzzzzzzzz……

    929. jason says:

      s the kind of massive fraud that would overturn millions of votes across multiple state. ”

      We don’t need millions.

      We just need a few thousand in AZ, GA and WI.

      Anyone who doesn’t think there was a enough fraud to overturn at least those 3 states is a moron.

    930. PresidentPaul! says:

      Bearjew just won big against shogun

    931. jason says:

      Excellent article by streiff…

      I agree with this completely, he tears the surrender now fight later crowd a new a-hole.

      I also like his nickname for them, the Surrendercons.

      “As I posted several days ago, President Trump Must Never Concede This Election to Joe Biden. He gains nothing by doing so. To concede means that he either disavows his own claims of election fraud, or he suddenly says that what he was fighting tooth and nail for yesterday is not worth fighting for. The best choice for President Trump and those who support him is to never, ever admit that the man who has stolen this election was legitimately elected. We may eventually run out of all Constitutional options, and Joe Biden may be inaugurated as Commander-in-Thief, but he should face unrelenting opposition, and President Trump should be on the road, packing stadiums, to remind America that Biden’s election was a fraud.”

      https://redstate.com/streiff/2020/11/21/surrendercons-trump-should-give-up-n283256

    932. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Pat Toomey gets it. Why can’t you?

    933. John says:

      BOOM!

      Trump requests recount in Georgia.

      This thing aint over. Trump is pumped!

    934. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      He did that a week ago. boom! They recounted last week BOOM! There was no change there BOOM. The REPUBLICAN Secretary of State signed off as Biden the winner. BOOM BOOM. Biden is taking off on January 20. BOOM BOOM BOOM CHOMP CHOMP.

    935. Paul says:

      John,
      That’s cool. Trump gets to lose in Georgia one more time.

    936. mnw says:

      Robbie

      I’ll check with CDM on that, because I sure missed the post where he said he wanted Loeffler & Perdue to lose.

      I’m inclined to think he never posted that, but we’ll see.

    937. lisab says:

      cdm said that he would not mind if they lose because then the country club rinos “like robbie” will feel pain and the system will crash so the dems will be ended

      however, he is making the mistake of thinking that robbie wants the country club republican to win

      remember how happy he was when romney lost

    938. lisab says:

      Robbie says:
      November 6, 2012 at 11:21 pm

      I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!

      Promise kept.

    939. CamRep says:

      Fact: National turnout supposedly grew faster than population growth did.

      That’s never happened before in American history. We’re not stupid, people. The poles were fake, and we know it!

      The best is yet to come!!!!!

    940. CamRep says:

      The Lamestream Media wants you to believe that billions of Americans have died of “COVID,” while voter turnout actually went up?!!

      Not buying it. We’re not stupid, people! The Dims might be, but we’re not. Hugo Chavez *wont* steal this Election!

      ????? ???? ????

    941. CamRep says:

      tekst idet syuda

    942. Gordon Allen says:

      I don’t think Trump is asking just for another recount in Georgia. Their claim is that the consent decree agreed to by the SOS,( and Governor?), unknown or approved by the Georgia legislature,was illegal,and ballots allowed under the consent decree,but not the law,are invalid.
      This is the argument that should have been laid to rest before the election,where Roberts produced a 4-4 tie in the PA case. So much turmoil,angst,and anger could have been avoided had that case been decided.

    943. PresidentPaul! says:

      Elon Musk Ganster version
      (If spaceX went public he would not be richer than Jeff Bezos #1 in the world)

    944. Tgca says:

      Wake up you sleepy heads
      Rub your eyes get out of bed

      Make yourself some tofu scramble
      Then post here and whine and ramble

      Happy Sunday all you bishes!

    945. PresidentPaul! says:

      There is no price discovery at zero interest rates. All these junk chinese EV companies and battery are going bitcoin right now.

      The valuations are only what market wants to believe the value is.

    946. jason says:

      “As I posted several days ago, President Trump Must Never Concede This Election to Joe Biden. He gains nothing by doing so. To concede means that he either disavows his own claims of election fraud, or he suddenly says that what he was fighting tooth and nail for yesterday is not worth fighting for. The best choice for President Trump and those who support him is to never, ever admit that the man who has stolen this election was legitimately elected. We may eventually run out of all Constitutional options, and Joe Biden may be inaugurated as Commander-in-Thief, but he should face unrelenting opposition, and President Trump should be on the road, packing stadiums, to remind America that Biden’s election was a fraud.”

    947. jason says:

      I will take a page from the trolls and repeat a post.

      So what will happen today at HHR.

      1) Trolls will continue to post the same old tired posts that weren’t funny the first time, let alone the 200th time.

      2) Robbie will insist fraud was not possible although only 42k votes in 3 states where millions of VBM votes occurred separate Trump from victory.

      3) Tgca will provide expert analysis on a variety of subjects. He will counter Bitter’s comment on giving up human food to explain that he read where rabbits and rodents did extremely well eating rabbit and rodent food, so the proof is in the pudding.

      4) dblaikie will have several posts that will make elevate morale among those that believe in the integrity of elections.

      5) CDM will have some post that although true, are depressing.

      6) jason will continue to dazzle his many admirers with his brilliance.

    948. jason says:

      Pat Toomey gets it. Why can’t you?”

      Toomey is a weak kneed wimp who wants to ingratiate himself with his new employers in the private sector.

      He is surrender now, surrender later too.

    949. jason says:

      “While some in mainstream media have attacked the Trump campaign and Americans raising questions about voter fraud and/or irregularities in the election, the Federal Election Commission Chair Trey Trainor said that the Trump campaign is bringing “legitimate accusations” to court in the form of affidavits of credible witnesses and other evidence in their challenges in various states.

      Trainor said his review of evidence, including numerous affidavits claiming voter fraud and a sworn statement by a prominent mathematician flagging up to 100,000 Pennsylvania ballots, met the first level of legal scrutiny under what’s known as motion to dismiss or “Rule 12(b)(6)” of the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure, which would dismiss less credible claims.

      “When considering a motion for summary judgment, a judge will view all evidence in the light most favorable to the movant’s opponent,” explains Cornell University Law School’s Legal Information Institute website.

      “What I would be concerned with, if I were on the other side of these election contests that are going on around the country, is that if you look at the level of evidence that has been provided by these affidavits — hundreds of affidavits that corroborate events that have happened on the ground — in a summary judgment phase of these cases, you have to take the evidence of the plaintiff as being true,” Trainor told “Just the News AM” television show Friday morning.

      Trainor said that the massive amounts of affidavits shows there was indeed fraud that took place and “the other side really needs to answer these questions.”

    950. JeffP says:

      The SOS of Georgia is an a**hole. They did NOT have an audit in the recount they just completed. There is no way Biden won Georgia legally. I will not be satisfied until they look at the mail in ballots with signature matches and registrations in a non partisan fashion in Atlanta/Fulton county…same in Detroit/Wayne County…same in Milwaukee,,,,same in Philly….same in Pittsburgh…same in Las Vegas…same in Phoenix. Until that happens I won’t believe what anyone says. Anyone who it is not demanding this is a total loser.

    951. Gordon Allen says:

      Thanks Jason# 976. When you say ” some” in the mainstream media,I assume you were being kind. Trainor’s statement is essentially boilerplate law re Motions for Summary Judgement or for Dismissal.
      In any other context other than this one they would be unexceptional. To date( direct opposite of Robbie) I’m not aware of specific denials or refutation of the piles of sworn affidavits, other than general denials of the ” nothing to see variety”.
      Probably because most of the affidavits are true. Unfortunately anything short of Joe Biden publicly confessing his campaign orchestrated widespread fraud will be discredited in the MSM,and even in the latter event they’d claim he was ” misquoted”.
      The Democrat’s/ MSM are 100% committed to their story,and aren’t changing it.

    952. jason says:

      Make yourself some tofu scramble
      Then post here and whine and ramble”

      I would whine and ramble too if my breakfast consisted of desiccated willow weeds and organic birdseed.

      My breakfast was 6 slices of slab bacon, a thick slice of country ham, a double portion of corned beef hash with 2 Amish farm eggs and biscuits slathered in Amish butter and coffee.

      That prepares me for troll destruction and for revealing Robbie as the amoral scum that he is.

    953. Robbie says:

      Jim Sciutto
      @jimsciutto
      “Quite frankly, the conduct of the President’s legal team has been a national embarrassment,” said @GovChristie on ABC. “They allege fraud outside the courtroom, but when they go inside the courtroom, they don’t plead fraud and they don’t argue fraud.”

      – There’s what Trump’s lawyers say in public and there’s what his lawyers say in front of a judge under oath. The two aren’t the same.

    954. Tom Fulcher says:

      So the democrats were so convinced that Hillary would win that they didn’t crank up their fraud machine. No need to take the risk when the outcome was such a foregone conclusion. Not so in 2020. They’ve had four years to get ready and have even improved their technique do to easily hackable computerized voting systems.

      So I hope Trump fights this to the bitter end and exposes as much fraud as he can. Maybe there are enough fair minded people left in this country to be repulsed by the extensiveness of the fraud to vote in people who will make real election reform – starting with required voter ID.

      Ever the optimist.

    955. Pitchaboy says:

      I have learned:
      1. When the left pushed the Russian hoax for 4 years they were saving the republic.
      2. When the right alleges fraud, they are promoting conspiracy theories and destroying the country.
      3. When the left resisted and declared DJT is not their President, it was a passionate expression of patriotism.
      4. When the right resists SloJo, they simply cannot man up to a defeat and come together as one nation.

      It is disappointing that after voting for DJT, albeit with a lot of shame, Robbie subscribes to these views.

    956. Robbie says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      November 21, 2020 at 7:27 pm
      Difference is this Robbie: while I want them to put up, I acknowledge there is significant circumstantial evidence of fraud. And I believe exposing it, may be the best thing DJT could do for the country. If it turns out to be a dud, he will be relegated to the dustbin of history.

      – I have no problem with this at all. If Trump’s team has it, show it to me and make me eat my words.

      What I strongly object to right now is the baseless conspiracy theories Rudy and Sidney Powell are making including, now, that Brian Kemp accepted a bribe from Dominion to help make sure Trump lost.

    957. Robbie says:

      lisab says:
      November 22, 2020 at 1:06 am
      Robbie says:
      November 6, 2012 at 11:21 pm

      I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!

      Promise kept.

      – How many times have I told you someone stole my screen name and posted that? Plenty, but you refuse to acknowledge that.

      Why not post the comment I actually made a bit later in the night stating adamantly I did not make that comment? Because it wouldn’t further your agenda.

    958. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 22, 2020 at 9:50 am
      I will take a page from the trolls and repeat a post.

      So what will happen today at HHR.

      2) Robbie will insist fraud was not possible although only 42k votes in 3 states where millions of VBM votes occurred separate Trump from victory.

      – Simple question. Is Sidney Powell correct that Dominion paid Brian Kemp a bribe to make sure Trump lost the state of Georgia?

    959. Pitchaboy says:

      How come you never asked the question if Adam Schaffzin was correct when he accused Trump of being Putin’s puppet?

    960. Pitchaboy says:

      Schiff

    961. Paul says:

      Tom Fulcher,
      Trump’s fight will fail.
      Ever the optimist.

    962. Cash Cow TM says:

      Historically high turnout in Nov. 3 election.

      Apparently all the @ 250,000 people who died from COVID this year (99.99% of whom were 18 or older) were either:
      A. not registered to vote,
      B. were registered but never voted, or
      C. were all constant R voters who would have given Trump the legal victory ahd Trump not murder.ed them.

      Our crack(head) MSM news reporters and journalists need to get on this story.

      But instead, they say to you as the pee you feel running down your leg from that dog standing beside you with cock.ed leg:

      1. there is no dog
      2. that invisible dog did not just pee on you
      3. you have no liquid running down your leg
      4. you have a mental problem.

    963. Pitchaboy says:

      We will know in 3 weeks if Powell is correct or a lying scumbag. You have still not accepted Schiff is a lying POS.

    964. jason says:

      Simple question. Is Sidney Powell correct that Dominion paid Brian Kemp a bribe to make sure Trump lost the state of Georgia?”

      LOL

      Powell is making a slew of very credible allegations of fraud across multiple states, but let’s focus on the comment that essentially just said that Dominion might have paid to influence the awarding of the contracts.

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    965. jason says:

      hy not post the comment I actually made a bit later in the night stating adamantly I did not make that comment?”

      Because everyone here knows you are pathological liar and that you in fact said you would be here celebrating Obama’s win.

    966. jason says:

      2) Robbie will insist fraud was not possible although only 42k votes in 3 states where millions of VBM votes occurred separate Trump from victory.

      – Simple question. Is Sidney Powell correct that Dominion paid Brian Kemp a bribe to make sure Trump lost the state of Georgia?”

      Notice the deflection from the real issue?

      42k votes across 3 states decided the election. Millions of VBM votes.

      But no, there is no way you could have 10k vote fraud in AZ, 12 k in GA and 20k in Wisconsin.

      Impossible!

    967. jason says:

      I will say this for the GA SOS and Brian Kemp.

      Nobody is working harder to elect Ossof and Warnock than they are.

    968. Robbie says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      November 22, 2020 at 11:02 am
      How come you never asked the question if Adam Schaffzin was correct when he accused Trump of being Putin’s puppet?

      – Schiff was and is such a clown that it never deserved the time.

      I never thought well of Trump, but even I never thought he was a Putin puppet.

      Here’s the thing, though. Schiff was a publicity hog Congressman looking to make a name for himself for a future statewide run in California.

      Sidney Powell is a lawyer for the President of the United States. She is speaking for him and claiming the governor of Georgia was paid a bribe to make sure Trump lost Georgia.

    969. dblaikie says:

      Robbie can drone on and on about Powell if he wants. But all of us know that she has put her credibility on the line. In a few weeks time if there is no proof forthcoming from this struggle, most likely in litigation, she will lose any respect that she has achieved in her career. In my view Robbie just needs to shut-up and let this play out. Just friendly advice.

    970. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 22, 2020 at 11:07 am
      Powell is making a slew of very credible allegations of fraud across multiple states, but let’s focus on the comment that essentially just said that Dominion might have paid to influence the awarding of the contracts.

      – Is suggesting that Hugo Chaves played a role in the vote stealing very credible? He died in 2013.

      Is suggesting the CIA played a role in the vote stealing using a program called “Scorecard” very credible?

      Is suggesting votes cast on Dominion equipment were first counted in Germany and then changed from Trump to Biden very credible?

      If Powell is making very credible arguments, then she should focus on them and them alone. Focusing on outlandish conspiracy theories distracts from whatever may be very credible arguments.

    971. dblaikie says:

      Here is a timely quote for today:

      “Censorship reflects a society’s lack of confidence in itself. It is a hallmark of an authoritarian regime.”— Justice Potter Stewart

    972. jason says:

      he is speaking for him and claiming the governor of Georgia was paid a bribe to make sure Trump lost Georgia.”

      Complete fabrication and lie, she never said that.
      Never said anything about “to make sure Trump lost GA”

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

      What she did say might be revealed this week.

      “Biden votes being “weighted” at 1.25 times and Trump votes being parsed at 3/4.

      Algorithms that gave Democrats 35,000 extra votes.

      Modifications made to voting machines after statutory cutoff dates for changes.

      Past election victories, including Hillary Clinton’s primary victory over Bernie Sanders, being forced-decided by Dominion Voting Systems.

      Alleged pay-for-play kick backs to public officials, potentially even Georgia GOP Gov. Kemp for a late grant to use Dominion Voting Systems.”

    973. jason says:

      “Is suggesting that Hugo Chaves played a role in the vote stealing very credible? He died in 2013.

      Another lie and complete fabrication.

      Powell used the fraudulent election wins by Chavez and Maduro as background reference.

      She never said anything about Hugo Chavez being involved in the 2020 election.

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    974. Robbie says:

      Choosing to ride or die with Sidney Powell is crazy, but in keeping with the last four years.

    975. jason says:

      Here’s the thing, though. Schiff was a publicity hog Congressman looking to make a name for himself for a future statewide run in California.”

      So why did you support his lies for 4 years here?

    976. jason says:

      Choosing to ride or die with Sidney Powell is crazy, but in keeping with the last four years.”

      The massive evidence of fraud doesn’t need Sidney Powell to be believed.

      Sidney Powell is a very accomplished attorney. Her record speaks for itself.

      If she was defending Biden, you would be slobbering all over her.

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    977. Tgca says:

      Wobbie does not believe that govt officials would engage in favors or pay for play even though many have been convicted of these over the years.

      But because a Trump lawyer makes a reference and analogies to past similar schemes, Wobbie thinks that does not count.

    978. Phil says:

      Guess what, Robbie. The non frauders in Fulton will steal the runoff election and thus the Senate just like they stole the election earlier this month. How? Just like they did before. Wait until all the other votes from all the red counties are in and then start counting as many ballots as they need….for days and days. Key is to wait until they know how many votes they need….that doesn’t work in states like Florida, Ohio, and Iowa. Votes are all counted on election night and there are no hold back votes.

      Maybe when it happens again in January you’ll get it – but I doubt it.

    979. Paul says:

      I don’t think Powell’s end game is necessarily a win for president. If no fraud is found and the cases are thrown out, it is just a bigger conspiracy. And in the end, she sells more books as the lone voice of truth against everything stacked against Trump.

    980. jason says:

      A good summary of what the PA challenge is about.

      “The Court’s order dismissing the case ignores the one key fact that I think is at the core of a potentially successful claim — that the seven counties, or some of them, engaged in an illegal pre-canvass of ballots prior to 7:00 am on Election Day as specified in the Election Code. With that allegation — which was never squarely made in the complaint — you have both differential treatment of Trump voters and Biden voters by one or more counties, and you also have violations of the statute by the counties as part of the same conduct that is alleged to violate the Plaintiffs’ rights. This allegation plays better to the Trump campaign’s claim of vote dilution with invalid votes being allowed to be cast.

      The Counties sought permission — and were denied permission — to pre-canvass ballots prior to 7:00 am on Election Day. But there was evidence they did so anyway, and doing so allowed more invalid ballots to be cured. That allegation should have gotten the Trump Campaign the right to know how many votes were cured, and how many votes were rejected due to technical errors.

      The goal of the litigation in Pennsylvania is to create a facial record — if it exists — that the seven pro-Biden counties at issue allowed a number of invalid votes to be counted, and that number is high enough — or it simply is not known — to call into question the Biden margin of victory. The “harm” is vote dilution of the voters on the losing side, which is what happens when invalid votes are allowed to be counted on the winning side, and the number of invalid ballots may have been the difference between winning and losing.

      The reality of the situation is that if the Supreme Court wants to take up litigation coming out of federal courts in Pennsylvania and the Third Circuit, it will do so. The outcome in the district court doesn’t change that fact. The lawyers for the Trump Campaign did a poor job — under difficult circumstances — but in the final analysis the quality of what they did will be beside the point if there are 4 Justices who want to be heard on the issues from Pennsylvania.”

    981. Tgca says:

      If they do indeed have the numerous affidavits they claim to have asserting fraud, that is evidence in a court of law.

      Somehow the dust cropper pilot does not understand that numerous witnesses completing lawful affidavits, under risk of perjury and prison time if falsely filed, is not evidence even though witnesses in court attesting to events is the vast evidence produced in criminal trials. What people saw and reviewed is routinely evidence in the courts. Why would it not be here?

      How can you not understand this very legal basic concept?

      Do we need one of our ambulance chaser lawyers here to explain these basic concepts to you if you will not listen to an EXPERT of all things except gay culture (see LisaB for all matters gay please) like me?

    982. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      November 22, 2020 at 11:37 am
      Guess what, Robbie. The non frauders in Fulton will steal the runoff election and thus the Senate just like they stole the election earlier this month.

      – If I remember correctly, you were also convinced Democrats would steal Tillis’ victory away from him, right?

      I get the concern. I’m not a fan of VBM or early voting. I think we should vote on election day and only on election day, but I have not seen evidence of the kind of fraud that would overturn this election.

    983. jason says:

      If no fraud is found”

      LOL

    984. Phil says:

      Florida knows how to run a fair election. Early votes and VBM are tabulated early and released immediately on election night. Election Day votes are tabulated quickly. The totals are in by 11:00. It’s clean.

      Compare that to the week long counts in Pa and how that was conducted.

      No comparison.

    985. Tgca says:

      1006. Paul

      You mean like they did with the Russia hoax in 2016? All conspiracy to sell books and get consultant gigs on TV and make money?

      Thanks for explaining how it works. That’s what we all thought but now you confirm via analogy is proof of the great Dem Russia hoax.

    986. jason says:

      Maybe when it happens again in January you’ll get it – but I doubt it.”

      It doesn’t matter.

      Basically, he is ok with massive fraud because it is against Trump.’

      You can be sure he knows the minuscule margins of less than 20k votes in each of 3 states could be subject to fraud with that many VBM ballots.

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    987. Paul says:

      Phil:
      Pennsylvania and Michigan wanted to conduct it like Florida with VBMs counted before election day but the Republican legislatures did not want to make that change. So VBMs could only be counted AFTER in person votes which began early on Wed. morning.

    988. jason says:

      “I’m not a fan of VBM or early voting.”

      Presumably the lying fraud says this because it casts doubt on the integrity of the election or allows for fraud, or why would he not be a “fan”.

      But yet he won’t admit 10k votes out of 5 million cast could not have been stolen in this election in GA.

      Why? Because Trump is the victim, so it is ok to steal the election.

    989. Paul says:

      1012: Tgca, yes, I agree. A lot of it is to sell books, or to use to move up the political ladder.

    990. Tgca says:

      1009

      Wobbie says “he’s not seen evidence.”

      Ummm…who would you expect to show you evidence before it was filed in court? I did not know you were privy to see information that determines whether evidence exists or not that the rest of us have not seen yet?

      How many of the affidavits have you reviewed?

      How many meetings did you sit in to discuss the claims that came forward?

      How many folks have come forward and discussed with you what they saw that would convince you it is not enough?

      Clearly, the evidence here is not “rock solid” like the evidence the Bush team had for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, riiiiiiiiiiiiight? Is that the standard to use for evidence? Where is Colin Powell when we need him to explain what REAL evidence looks like.

    991. Tgca says:

      1016 Paul

      A lot of it or ALL of it? Don’t be iffy here, either there was a Russia hoax or not!

      …if you agree it was a scam, as you imply, then should not Schiff, Pelosi, and other Dems resign or be prosecuted for misleading investigations and misleading the country for years?

    992. jason says:

      The “Sidney Powell is in this to sell books” is another baseless canard perpetrated by the intellectually dishonest.

      Sidney Powell can make a lot more money litigating cases than writing books.

    993. Wobbles says:

      How many of the affidavits have you reviewed?”

      I haven’t actually read any.

      But CNN and MSNBC both say they have no merit, so I don’t have to.

      Besides, I am too busy making up lies about Powell and Giuliani, you can’t do everything.

    994. jason says:

      Clearly, the evidence here is not “rock solid” like the evidence the Bush team had for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, riiiiiiiiiiiiight?”

      I will take this cheap bait, it is almost lunch time.’

      The problem with WMD was actually that it could not be proven it DIDN’T exist. Saddam wanted his enemies to think he DID have it, and he wouldn’t let the UN inspectors determine that he didn’t.
      Saddam had of course used WMD in the past against both Iran and his own people.

      In his state of the Union, GWB said “trusting in the sanity of Saddam Hussein is not an option”.

      And it wasn’t.

    995. jason says:

      The COVID surge in Europe is already on the down slope in the UK, France, Germany. Italy and Spain.

      The same thing will happen here, no shut downs needed.

    996. Tgca says:

      1021

      My point was relevance by association. Why one standard and not another?

      Does anyone think you’re really going to find written, audio, or video evidence that proves fraud? If countries often can use undocumented evidence as proof for determining whether events are legitimate, why cannot affidavits from witnesses not be deemed trustworthy since they carry more weight?

      Granted, if the affidavits turn out to be false, then prosecute and imprison folks to deter such illegal behavior but to suggest that affidavits are not valid evidence is ludicrous.

    997. JeffS says:

      Remember:RBG’s assuming court room temperature was not in vain. Four more years and one more SCOTUS pick!

    998. CamRep says:

      BOOM! Powell has *PROOF* that Radical Socialist Georgia Governor Brian Kemp has taken Bribes from Communist elements seeking to overturn this election!

      She hasn’t been wrong yet about one thing yet, people. Not one!

      Watch this one!

      The entire Corrupt Georgia establishment will soon be BEGGING President Trump for mercy, but He will show them NONE!! We will see Real Leadership on display in Georgia come 2022, if not sooner!! Impeachment and charges of treason, I hear, are NOT off the table.

    999. Sidney says:

      I’m going to blow up Georgia real good along with the Governor, Secretary of State and both Senators. The Kraken is coming.

    1000. Phil says:

      Exactly correct about the curve in Europe, Jason. It’s the same pattern we saw in India and Brazil spikes. Huge increases that the “experts” told us would go on and on. They peaked and then steadily declined. Now they have declined by 70 percent from their peaks.

      The lockdowns that the left wants to continue forever have one purpose – government control – forever if they can get away with it. It’s about government control…the ultimate goal of the left.

      I’m lucky to live in Texas. Safest place in America as far as avoiding lockdowns.

    1001. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 22, 2020 at 11:48 am
      “I’m not a fan of VBM or early voting.”

      Presumably the lying fraud says this because it casts doubt on the integrity of the election or allows for fraud, or why would he not be a “fan”.

      – You’ve become every bit as conspiratorial as the people you once attacked in this forum as conspiratorial.

      I don’t support early voting or vote by mail because I don’t support early voting or vote by mail.

      We have election day. Not election week or election month.

      At some point, I hope you come to accept that Trump lost this race. I don’t hold out much hope, though.

    1002. Robbie says:

      Tgca says:
      November 22, 2020 at 11:51 am
      1009

      Wobbie says “he’s not seen evidence.”

      Ummm…who would you expect to show you evidence before it was filed in court? I did not know you were privy to see information that determines whether evidence exists or not that the rest of us have not seen yet?

      – So if they have the information, why have they refused to use it in actual court proceedings? Why didn’t Rudy make the evidence available in the federal court case he argued on Wednesday and that was throw out of court yesterday?

      Trump’s legal team has filed multiple challenges across multiple states and in none of those challenges have they alleged fraud. None.

      I catalogued the multiple instances in which Trump’s lawyers have refused to make the case there was fraud in 620.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/19/trumps-own-lawyers-keep-undermining-his-voter-fraud-claims/

    1003. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 22, 2020 at 12:13 pm
      The “Sidney Powell is in this to sell books” is another baseless canard perpetrated by the intellectually dishonest.

      Sidney Powell can make a lot more money litigating cases than writing books.

      – She’s a crank and a con artist. After years of attacking people in this forum as a dead enders, it amazes me you have chosen to become the ultimate dead ender yourself.

      You’re being conned by Sidney Powell. She is a Steve Bannon acolyte. She appears often on his podcast called War Room. This is not an operation meant to get Trump the presidency. This is an operation to sow distrust so Bannon, Rudy, and Powell (they all appear together on War Room repeatedly) can keep their grift machine funded.

      What she’s doing is little more than performance art. She is making none of these allegations in court. None. She’s making them on conservative news channels. This is a grift operation. She talks to Newsmax, OAN, and Judge Janine.

      Do you really believe the CIA is using some secret program called Hammer or Scorecard to defeat Trump? Do you really think Brian Kemp took a bribe from Dominion to help make sure Trump lost? Do you really think Germans counted the votes in Germany and then switched them and sent them back to the US to be counted?

      It’s pure lunacy.

    1004. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      November 22, 2020 at 12:51 pm
      Exactly correct about the curve in Europe, Jason. It’s the same pattern we saw in India and Brazil spikes.

      – If you overlay the graph of news cases of coronavirus over the CDC approved graph of the Spanish flu waves, this corona is following that flu outbreak very, very closely.

      Spanish flus showed up in March/April with a strong wave. It ebbed then had another wave that began in mid-June and ended by August. Then came the very, very large Fall wave that began the end of September, peaked by mid November, and then receded by late December. The last wave of Spanish flu occurred during February/March and looked a lot like the Summer wave.

      With vaccines, hopefully we can’t blunt the February wave. Regardless, this wave appears to be peaking right now and we could start to see declines by the first week of December.

    1005. Gordon Allen says:

      Wissing is practicing big tech censorship right now. I challenged Robbie flatly on his honesty with specifics. Under review

    1006. jason says:

      y. This is an operation to sow distrust so Bannon, Rudy, and Powell (they all appear together on War Room repeatedly) can keep their grift machine funded.”

      Wow, the poor bastard’s brain has been completely taken over by the MSM. Worse, actualluy.

      That is straight out of Daily Kos st-ff.

      Geezus.

    1007. Gordon Allen says:

      BTW I wish Powell knew about Robbie posts. There clear cut defamation cases and are wilful,even assuming she falls under the public figure definition.
      Wonder how to get those posts to her. Robbie might then find out about her legal skills. First hand.

    1008. jason says:

      She talks to Newsmax, OAN, and Judge Janine.”

      No sh-t?

      Has she been invited on CNN or MSNBC or any of the other fake networks?

      Of course not, they are scared sh-tless of her.

    1009. jason says:

      I think she qualifies as a pubic figure.

      Robbie can lie about her all he wants.

    1010. Bio mom says:

      When I look at the map of the states showing red or blue for who won that state in the presidential election, Georgia stands out strikingly as the only blue patch surrounded by a sea of red states. Surely it is not so different from the Carolinas, Alabama, Tennessee, Louisiana, even Florida, culturally. Seems strange.

    1011. jason says:

      Do you really believe the CIA is using some secret program called Hammer or Scorecard to defeat Trump? Do you really think Brian Kemp took a bribe from Dominion to help make sure Trump lost? Do you really think Germans counted the votes in Germany and then switched them and sent them back to the US to be counted?”

      Zzzzzzz…… a complete bastardization of what is actually being alleged. This is MSM BS.

      Personally I would rather concentrate on the illegal ballots, and there is plenty that Powell is credibly alleging about them.

    1012. Tgca says:

      Wobbie is developing his own conspiracy theories now without any proof.

      So folks go on Bannon’s podcast must mean there is some sort of conspiracy for them to dupe conservatives so they can reap the monetary rewards later on.

      I guess you forgot Lou Dobbs too here. He must also be into conspiracy theories trying to make money. What about Newt or Ted Cruz. All these crazy GOPers into conspiracy theories.

      Affidavits of witnesses be damned! They don’t need any review or consideration.

      But folks going on CNN and MSNBC are not loons subject to conspiracy theories, eh?

      Why does Wobbie only see one side?

    1013. jason says:

      Seems strange”

      A lot more than strange.

      It makes no sense Trump would win Florida by that big a margin and lose GA.

    1014. jason says:

      Has anyone here actually watched “the War Room”.

      I never have.

    1015. jason says:

      You’re being conned by Sidney Powell”

      Says Adam Schiff and Michael Avenatti’s lap dog.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    1016. Sexy Sydney Powell says:

      Like OMG I’m so in love with Jason. He is a real mean who knows how to stand up for his woman.

      Jason are you single?

      Please say “yes” Please say “yes”

    1017. jason says:

      He is a real mean who knows how to stand up for his woman.”

      The trolls are not only stupid, they are illiterate.

    1018. lisab says:

      The COVID surge in Europe is already on the down slope in the UK, France, Germany. Italy and Spain.

      The same thing will happen here, no shut downs needed.
      —————————

      minnesota IS already locked down again

      just in time to ruin black friday and thanksgiving for restaurants and small business owners

      this is a war against the middle class

      all the big-box stores are open

      tiny cafe? nope … cannot sell me coffee

    1019. lisab says:

      ** robbie **

      the unemployed middle-aged man

      is ridiculing a successful lawyer like Sidney Powell

    1020. jason says:

      Elections have consequences.

      Fortunately here in PA the Gov is afraid of the pushback, and outside of Philly everything is open.

      There are rumors that after Thanksgiving he may try for more restrictions but he knows there is little public support for it.

    1021. jason says:

      is ridiculing a successful lawyer like Sidney Powell”

      Yep, calling Powell a huckster after having his head up the ass Adam Schiff and Michael Avenatti for years really gets the HHR Lack of Self Awareness Award.

    1022. Gordon Allen says:

      1040. Another statistical improbably. Georgia consistently votes several percentage points to the right of Florida. A 3.5% win in Florida should normally translate to a 5-6 point win in Georgia. I think everything has to do with the cheating allowed there under the consent agreement.. and the fact Florida now is hard to cheat in.

    1023. CamRep says:

      Add RINO–we always knew he was a Socialist, from the People’s Republic of New Jersey–Chris Christie to the traitors list.

      These people are so stupid, they don’t even recognize all the evidence that is coming, and that the trends are irrefutable. President Trump was, is, and always will be our President.

      Don’t accept their apologies come January 20 when President Trump is inaugurated for a Second Glorious Term. They’ll try to claim they support the coming court challenges to the 22A, which is *blatantly* against the Founding Fathers’ wishes, but We Will Remember.

      And guess what–we do not need them! The silent super-majority will be longer be silent!!!

      The best is yet to come!!!!

    1024. PresidentPaul! says:

      Pfizer vaccine update

      First Squawk (@FirstSquawk)
      PFIZER: USFDA TO MEET ON DEC. 10 TO DISCUSS CO’S REQUEST FOR EMERGENCY USE OF VACCINE EXPECTED TO GET APPROVAL IN 24 HOURS VACCINE EXPECTED TO ARRIVE ON DEC. 12
      Twitter•Today at 11:05 AM

    1025. PresidentPaul! says:

      Christie would have had a job in the admin, but he was blacklisted for prosecuting Kuscher’s father who was making sex tapes of his brother.

    1026. CamRep says:

      Sidney Powell is the Greatest Hero in American History. The only reason people question her is because they can’t understand her brilliance.

      She’s playing fifteenth-dimensions chess, while the rest of you are in the sandbox. The only person smarter than her? President Donald J. Trump, who hired her!

      [Vstav’te tekst zdes’]

    1027. Paul says:

      MD GOP Gov Hogan to Trump:
      “Stop golfing and concede.”

    1028. Cam Rep. says:

      Sorry about the garbage posts.’

      We have been completely cut off from any new material, so we have to keep posting the same crap over and over.

      I know, I am embarrassed, but what can we do?

      If I was smarter, I wouldn’t be here.

    1029. PresidentPaul! says:

      Hope everyone here is sending donations to Perdue.

      Most important senate race of our lives.

    1030. jason says:

      Hogan is in a contest with Baker in MA to see who is more irrelevant.

    1031. jason says:

      Loeffler needs more help than Perdue.

      Send her the money.

    1032. Tgca says:

      LisaB

      Stop your whining!

      You don’t need to go to local cafes or merchants. Gimme a break.

      Everything you need you can have Amazon deliver to your doorstep too with ease and speed.

      Besides, Jeff Bezos needs the money after his divorce.

      Support your local billionaire!

    1033. PresidentPaul! says:

      Loeffler will probably lose, and we’ll get the seat back in 2022. Would be nice if she wins but whatever.

      As long as Perdue wins I’m happy.

    1034. lisab says:

      it is very ironic that robbie expects us to believe that one time in 14 years a

      **fraudulent**

      post was made of him expressing joy at romney losing

      for reasons unknown

      but he does not think their was any fraud in the election when 4 states stopped counting in the middle of the night with trump way ahead, and then when no one was awake suddenly biden was ahead in all 4 states

    1035. Bitterlaw says:

      Unfair, lisab. Robbie is unemployed because the airline industry is held hostage by COVID.

    1036. PresidentPaul! says:

      Glenn destroying the fake news

      Glenn Greenwald Levels MSM Journo Who Claims He’s ‘Endangering’ CIA-Mouthpiece Media

      “If you don’t want to be a news outlet globally notorious for disseminating propaganda in partnership with CIA, don’t hire the ex-Director of CIA to “deliver the news,” or people like this who are notorious for serving the Agency. “

    1037. Bitterlaw says:

      On the other hand, I have never heard of a teacher being laid off because of COVID. Maybe it has happened.

    1038. PresidentPaul! says:

      Police dog attack leaves woman with life-changing injuries for violating covid rules

      “I was dancing when I was attacked with no warning at all,” Ms Andrew told The Independent.

    1039. PresidentPaul! says:

      COVID America

      42.8% of American Adults are obese not just overweight 17-28
      When do they become a majority?

    1040. jason says:

      Unfair, lisab. Robbie is unemployed because the airline industry is held hostage by COVID.”

      Nah, he is unemployed because karma is a b-tch.

    1041. Paul says:

      Joe Biden is the first Democrat to win Arizona since 1996.

      Joe Biden is the first Democrat to win Georgia since 1992.

      Current vote margin: 6.04 million

    1042. jason says:

      Except that he didn’t really win either one.

      But thanks for sharing.

    1043. sane_voter says:

      Loeffler losing to Warnock would be political malpractice.

    1044. PresidentPaul! says:

      Perdue is running 2-4% ahead of her. She’s going to lose.

      GOP needs to go into crisis management because we only need one seat to control the senate not two.

      Just focus on winning the senate with Perdue.

      Loeffler’s potential loss can be taken back in 2022.

    1045. PresidentPaul! says:

      UK getting a vaccine by next week?

    1046. lisab says:

      Unfair, lisab. Robbie is unemployed because the airline industry is held hostage by COVID.

      —————————

      no, he may have lost his airline job, if he actually has one, because of covid

      but he is unemployed by choice

    1047. JeffP says:

      This argument that “we need to see evidence” is a bunch of crap…how about the HUNDREDS of witnesses that signed affidavits. How about taking them serious and investigating or doing a full and complete audit with signature matches? They really think we are dumb. Anything less than that is an absolute joke. If elections are not going to be secure I will never vote again.

    1048. Pitchaboy says:

      SloJo is the first zombie to win it all without campaigning. Didn’t have to. Manufactured the votes.

    1049. CamRep says:

      Newest Socialist RINO traitor—Liz Cheney

      Welcome to the Ash Heap of History, Communist scum!

    1050. Gatorbillyjoel says:

      Loeffler is a financial fraudster. She is going to lose. Perdue is an old white racist. He will lose as well. A Democrat Senate is happening.

    1051. Tgca says:

      1079. JeffP

      That’s what they want. If folks give up voting, they can control them and push their agenda even further. That is why Trump and the GOP need to take a multi-step approach.

      1. Preach the illegitimacy of Biden over and over the next 4 years. Work it into every conversation in the MSM and political discussions.

      2. Continue to rally the troops non-stop and let Trump do his rallies the next 4 years to keep them excited…and a bit pissed off too how they were cheated by the Dems.

      3. Investigate! Investigate! Investigate! Through Congress and the courts fight it over and over and call out GOP politicians who pay nothing but lip service but do nothing.

      4. Get every conservative to register and vote. Don’t wait until elections roll around. Non-stop outreach to register.

      5. Reach out to working folks, AA, and Latinos continuously and remind them how the Dems take advantage of them. Let the Dems become the party of the rich and globalists.

      6. Seek to change voting laws to be consistent and transparent.

      Conservatives should use this to build a movement NOW and not give up or wait until elections roll around. If the GOP takes the House in 2022 and keeps the senate, Biden can’t accomplish much.

    1052. CamRep says:

      On the Day of Giving Thanks, we need to all give Thanks this year that our leader, Donald Jess Trump, will be our leader still next year. And onwards!

      The best is yet to come!! Who is with me?!!

    1053. Robbie says:

      It appears Rudy has fired Sidney Powell from Trump’s legal team.

      https://twitter.com/johnkruzel/status/1330638981697036289?s=20

    1054. CamRep says:

      Let the traitors to the Party of Trump suffer! Mightily!

    1055. Tgca says:

      Dems are like the terrorists that run the terrorist countries. They try to keep the people uneducated and angry at a perceived enemy to control them and keep them down all the while making false promises.

      Dems have kept AA in particular on the plantation for over 100 years and have no intention of letting them rise up.

    1056. Robbie says:

      I wonder how Jason feels about Sidney Powell getting thrown under the bus after he spent the last few days defending her resume?

    1057. Roger says:

      Sidney now suggests that Loeffler stole the election from Collins!!

      “We don’t know who bought their election.. I’m sure it crosses party lines.. I’m reasonably certain John James was ripped out of his seat, and he was entitled to have won that election by the real vote, and the same thing is true for Doug Collins in Georgia.”–Sidney Powell

    1058. Robbie says:

      Gordon Allen says:
      November 22, 2020 at 1:37 pm
      BTW I wish Powell knew about Robbie posts. There clear cut defamation cases and are wilful,even assuming she falls under the public figure definition.
      Wonder how to get those posts to her. Robbie might then find out about her legal skills. First hand.

      – Hey, Gordon. Rudy just threw Sidney Powell under the bus and said she’s not part of Trump’s legal team even though she took part in Thursday’s awful press conference where she described herself and the rest of them as part of an elite strike force.

      Does she have a defamation case against him as well?

    1059. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 22, 2020 at 1:48 pm
      Do you really believe the CIA is using some secret program called Hammer or Scorecard to defeat Trump? Do you really think Brian Kemp took a bribe from Dominion to help make sure Trump lost? Do you really think Germans counted the votes in Germany and then switched them and sent them back to the US to be counted?”

      Zzzzzzz…… a complete bastardization of what is actually being alleged. This is MSM BS.

      – No, no, no, no. I was only repeating what a member of Trump’s legal team was saying. You have spent the last few days defending Sidney Powell as part of Trump’s legal team. She’s the one who claimed Brian Kemp took a bribe from Dominion to make sure Trump lost.

    1060. Robbie says:

      Tgca says:
      November 22, 2020 at 1:49 pm
      Wobbie is developing his own conspiracy theories now without any proof.

      So folks go on Bannon’s podcast must mean there is some sort of conspiracy for them to dupe conservatives so they can reap the monetary rewards later on.

      – When Sidney Powell, Rudy, and Steve Bannon are all collaborating on strategy (reported by Newsmax and the NYT) and that included suggesting Brian Kemp took a bribe from Dominion in order to make sure Trump lost the state, then yes they are collaborating.

    1061. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 22, 2020 at 2:52 pm
      is ridiculing a successful lawyer like Sidney Powell”

      Yep, calling Powell a huckster after having his head up the ass Adam Schiff and Michael Avenatti for years really gets the HHR Lack of Self Awareness Award.

      – First, she’s not a successful lawyer. Second, she’s a huckster. Third, she just got pushed off Trump’s legal team by Rudy because of the nonsense conspiracy theories she pushed.

    1062. Gordon Allen says:

      Heh Robbie. Just you. Rudy said nothing derogatory about her. You did,with malice aforethought. Heh,I still think you’re a lying, fraudulent scumbag. Waiting,still, for your specific replies about the cases,which you duck consistently,and you’re still invited to sue. Anytime.

    1063. Tgca says:

      1093

      Hey Wobbie!

      Was Avenatti a successful lawyer? Last I heard he’s in jail after you pushed for him for months and your friends at CNN and MSNBC had him on their show hundreds of times and at their parties too. How come you guys don’t speak about him anymore?

      She was an experienced federal prosecutor and turned the Flynn case upside down. That’s a success story!

      Maybe she is full of beans but you don’t want it to play out in court so you’re just like the Dems that don’t want to hear any evidence.

    1064. Robbie says:

      lisab says:
      November 22, 2020 at 3:44 pm
      it is very ironic that robbie expects us to believe that one time in 14 years a

      **fraudulent**

      post was made of him expressing joy at romney losing

      – The words that Dave has banned from this forum don’t allow me to describe what I think of lisab, but none of them are good. This piece of work also spent a portion of the Summer hoping American Airlines went out of business so I would lose my job permanently. Still, let me once again show this sad excuse for a person what was actually written on election night 2012.

      Here is the comment where someone stole my screen name.

      *Robbie says:
      November 6, 2012 at 11:21 pm
      I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!

      Promise kept.*

      Notice the time of 11:21 PM.

      Here is what I wrote just seven minutes later.

      *Robbie says:
      November 6, 2012 at 11:28 pm
      112.I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!

      Promise kept.

      Comment by Robbie — November 6, 2012 @ 11:21 pm

      Someone is stealing my name. What a loser.*

      Then I wrote this at 11:29 PM on election night.

      *Robbie says:
      November 6, 2012 at 11:29 pm
      People, my screen name has been hijacked. I did not write that.*

      And here is me responding to MD.

      *Robbie says:
      November 6, 2012 at 11:29 pm
      MD

      My name was stolen. I did not write that.*

      And here’s what I wrote at 11:31 PM.

      *Robbie says:
      November 6, 2012 at 11:31 pm
      My screen name was stolen. I did not say what was written. It’s horse crap. I did not write those words.*

      Notice lisab never includes any of this. I wonder why? It couldn’t be because she’s a miserable person, right? Of course, she also accused me of being anti-Semitic in early 2017.

    1065. Robbie says:

      ordon Allen says:
      November 22, 2020 at 5:48 pm
      Heh Robbie. Just you. Rudy said nothing derogatory about her. You did,with malice aforethought

      – You’re right, I did say those things with malice because she’s a crank and kook who pushed a ridiculous conspiracy theory under the auspices of being the lawyer for the president’s re-election campaign.

    1066. jason says:

      Robbie is a shameless liar.

      His screen name was not stolen, he did exactly what he said he would do.

      The moral compass of a floating turd.

    1067. Robbie says:

      lisab says:
      November 22, 2020 at 2:48 pm
      ** robbie **

      the unemployed middle-aged man

      is ridiculing a successful lawyer like Sidney Powell

      – I’m unemployed because people are afraid to fly while a runny nose virus is going around.

      I made fun of Sidney Powell because she’s a crank and a kook pushing ridiculous conspiracy theories.

      And by the way, Rudy just threw your supposed successful lawyer under the bus for her asinine comments.

    1068. Tgca says:

      Like her or not, Sidney Powell is successful in her own right. She is an appellate expert with her own practice and has a 70% reversal rate, hundreds of appellate filed under her, represented a number of high profile cases, and she teaches for the DOJ on selected topics.

      But this is a real losah in Wobbie’s world whereas Avenatti is a stellar attorney.

    1069. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 22, 2020 at 4:21 pm
      Unfair, lisab. Robbie is unemployed because the airline industry is held hostage by COVID.”

      Nah, he is unemployed because karma is a b-tch.

      – Once again, Jason claims I’m out of work because I didn’t support Trump.

      I guess when you believe garbage like this, it should surprise no one he thinks Sidney Powell (who just got fired by Rudy of all people!) is a successful lawyer.

    1070. jason says:

      Robbie Goebbels in full force tonight.

      One lie after the the other.

    1071. jason says:

      Like her or not, Sidney Powell is successful in her own right. She is an appellate expert with her own practice and has a 70% reversal rate, hundreds of appellate filed under her, represented a number of high profile cases, and she teaches for the DOJ on selected topics.

      But this is a real losah in Wobbie’s world whereas Avenatti is a stellar attorney.”

      Don’t forget his other hero, Adam Schiff.

    1072. jason says:

      Nah, he is unemployed because karma is a b-tch.

      – Once again, Jason claims I’m out of work because I didn’t support Trump.”

      Robbie Goebbels strikes again.

    1073. jason says:

      And of course, Sidney Powell is a VERY successful attorney with a stellar record.

      She will always get high paying clients.

    1074. Robbie says:

      lisab says:
      November 22, 2020 at 5:10 pm
      Unfair, lisab. Robbie is unemployed because the airline industry is held hostage by COVID.

      —————————

      no, he may have lost his airline job, if he actually has one, because of covid

      but he is unemployed by choice

      – Here’s the deal, sweetheart. I’m unemployed from my job because of coronavirus. If I take another job flying somewhere else (not that they’re are any jobs open), I would lose my seniority number and my ability to be called back when they need me again.

      I may not be collecting a paycheck from American right now, but I am teaching people how to learn in the interim.

      So piss the f@ck off you miserable piece of crap.

    1075. jason says:

      I wonder how Jason feels about Sidney Powell getting thrown under the bus after he spent the last few days defending her resume?”

      Hmmm….

      She has a great resume!

    1076. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 22, 2020 at 6:07 pm
      And of course, Sidney Powell is a VERY successful attorney with a stellar record.

      She will always get high paying clients.

      – She got fired by Rudy. A man who had hair dye running down his face.

    1077. Rudy G says:

      I was forced to fire Sidney after she kept using all my dildos. Please send more $$ to the Trump Legal Defense Fund so that I can replenish my supply.

    1078. Robbie says:

      Let’s be honest. Zombie Hugo Chavez forced Rudy to fire Powell.

    1079. jason says:

      ’m unemployed from my job because of coronavirus.”

      Maybe you are unemployed because you are a scumbag of a human being and karma finally caught up to you.

      Nothing to do with Trump.

    1080. jason says:

      A man who had hair dye running down his face.”

      Zzzzzz,…..

      Rudy Giiuliani is a fine man, great patriot, successful at everything he ever did.

      You are not fit to even lick his boots.

    1081. Robbie says:

      So the Kraken won’t be released now?

    1082. Tgca says:

      Wobbie

      The Trump campaign clarified she does not work for them. That is not saying they threw her under the bus unless they further clarify that. Again, you are being the conspiracist here assuming they think she is a loon because that’s what you think. Where’s your proof that is why they made the statement?

      She is focusing on a different area of the case as other attorneys are as individuals are also doing.

      Let Rudy and them focus on the constitutional issues while others focus on various fraud issues which will probably take much longer than the desired certification dates to prove and cross in a court of law.

      At the end of the day, the evidence is what we need to see whether it’s from Sidney, Rudy, or others. Anything short of evidence, I agree they don’t have a case.

      You’ve not seen an iota of proof just like you did not see an iota of proof with Avenatti or Cohen but you made your case against Trump because it served your narrative which was because he ridiculed and beat Jeb who would have lost to Hilary in a landslide so perhaps you should thank Trump for the last 4 years instead of having President Hilary.

    1083. jason says:

      My name was stolen. I did not write that.*”

      lisab, I think this qualifies for Lie of the Decade at HHR.

      And believe me, Robbie Goebbels has given us plenty of other candidates for the honor.

    1084. Gordon Allen says:

      That she’s a successful lawyer,and you’re not successful,are both true and self evident. Thus your hatred and envy for her( and for Trump).
      As to her claims about Dominion the jury is is still out; which has zero to do with my dispute with you about the ” multitude of cases”/ fraud issue. On which you’re wrong.
      I think it is fair to ask her to produce the witnesses she claims she has on Dominion; there must be a way to protect their anonymity and physical persona in some way at the same time. How,I don’t know.

    1085. Sidney P. says:

      I love licking boots.

    1086. jason says:

      Rudy did not fire anybody.

      Robbie Goebbels lies again.

    1087. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      November 22, 2020 at 6:12 pm
      Rudy Giiuliani is a fine man, great patriot, successful at everything he ever did.

      – A fine man who who announced he was divorcing his wife in a press conference with the NYC press corps before he told his wife he was divorcing her.

      Yea, a fine man.

    1088. jason says:

      nder the auspices of being the lawyer for the president’s re-election campaign.”

      Another lie.

      She was not “the” lawyer for the presidentt’s re-election campaign.

    1089. lisab says:

      *Robbie says:
      November 6, 2012 at 11:21 pm
      I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!

      Promise kept.*

      Notice the time of 11:21 PM.

      Here is what I wrote just seven minutes later.
      ———————–

      after he realized that he posted the wrong thing in the wrong place and got called out by bitterlaw !

    1090. Robbie says:

      Josh Dawsey
      @jdawsey1
      Trump told allies that Sidney Powell was too much, even for him, after Thursday. He sees the fight as uphill but fleeting and doesn’t see her as helpful anymore, per several advisers.

      – When you’re too crazy for Trump.

    1091. jason says:

      – A fine man who who announced he was divorcing his wife in a press conference with the NYC press corps before he told his wife he was divorcing her.”

      Horrors… that is really all you have?

      LOL

    1092. Country Dick Montana says:

      Sidney says:
      November 18, 2020 at 3:27 pm

      Always believe the Kraken.

      Sydney says:
      November 18, 2020 at 8:56 pm

      Shut up, Rudy. I’m the best. No one can touch my Kraken.

      Roger says:
      November 19, 2020 at 3:42 pm

      Someone promised me Krakens. Where are the Krakens?

      Sidney says:
      November 22, 2020 at 12:50 pm

      I’m going to blow up Georgia real good along with the Governor, Secretary of State and both Senators. The Kraken is coming.

      Robbie says:
      November 22, 2020 at 6:12 pm

      So the Kraken won’t be released now?

      Those were just in this thread alone. My apologizes to Paul. You aren’t the only one with Multiple personalities. Mrs. CDM is a retired LCSW. She believes that there are a couple of people in need of serious clinical help.

    1093. jason says:

      “Trump told allies”

      Zzzzzzz…

      Is that better than unnamed sources?

    1094. lisab says:

      Maybe you are unemployed because you are a scumbag of a human being and karma finally caught up to you.
      —————————-

      i don’t think there is any maybe about that

    1095. Robbie says:

      lisab says:
      November 22, 2020 at 6:18 pm
      *Robbie says:
      November 6, 2012 at 11:21 pm
      I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!!!!!!!

      Promise kept.*

      Notice the time of 11:21 PM.

      Here is what I wrote just seven minutes later.
      ———————–

      after he realized that he posted the wrong thing in the wrong place and got called out by bitterlaw !

      – Bless your heart.

    1096. jason says:

      after he realized that he posted the wrong thing in the wrong place and got called out by bitterlaw !”

      The guy has been a pathological liar here forever.

      Nobody believes anything he says… maybe the trolls do.

      What a sorry excuse for a human being.

    1097. jason says:

      i don’t think there is any maybe about that”

      I was trying to be kind.

    1098. jason says:

      Robbie Goebbels hates the working class, because he thinks he is so superior to them.

      He hates successful people, because he will never be successful.

      Pathetic.

    1099. lisab says:

      btw, big day in court tomorrow or tuesday, the trump lawyers are appealing the pa election to the third circuit

      the third circuit is the LEAST friendly to trump in the state lawsuits so, it is somewhat likely to rule against him and go to scotus

      alito is the scotus judge assigned to the 3rd circuit …

      sooooooooooo … if it is likely we will now something about the lawsuits soon, because if the third circuit supports trump, than the other courts will probably too … the third court is the most hostile court, (court that is involved that is), to trump.

      otoh, if they rule against trump, as expected and alito is hostile, that will signal the end of the election

    1100. Paul says:

      lisab: How would that signal the end of the election. Even if SCOTUS were to throw out the Pa. vote (they aren’t), Biden still wins.

    1101. Paul says:

      Country Dick Montana: I am Sidney and Roger.

      I’m quite certain Robbie is his own person.

      And, I have no clue who the fake Rudy or Sidney Powell is….

    1102. lisab says:

      How would that signal the end of the election. Even if SCOTUS were to throw out the Pa. vote (they aren’t), Biden still wins.
      ——————————

      because alito would presumably be one of the leaders of the conservative judges on scotus

      if he is not friendly to the trump lawsuit, then it is unlikely any of the other states’ lawsuits would succeed

      so it would signal the end

    1103. Country Dick Montana says:

      So Paul, since we are being so brave and honest right now, who else are you and why would you post under multiple handles? Just asking

    1104. Paul says:

      1134: Makes sense. I was having a reading comprehension issue 🙂

    1105. Tgca says:

      New thwed losahs!

    1106. Paul says:

      Hi Country Dick Montana,
      Those are the only two I’ve used. Sidney was an obvious pretend version of Sidney Powell.

      Roger was a more saner and more conservative version of myself. I felt I had burned my bridges with the insanity I was posting as “Paul”. But once you saw through it, I figured I’d go back to Paul.