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    Another Open Thread

    I have to admit I am surprised by the limited number of polls coming out of Georgia since November 3rd. All these polling organizations that seemingly endless supply of money to spend on polls before November 3rd.

    Now that I have written it, we’ll probably get inundated with polls this week…I hope….

    Posted by Dave at 10:40 pm
    Filed under: General | Comments (334)

    334 Responses to “Another Open Thread”

    1. Chicon says:

      I thought the joint was going down. Couldn’t post on the previous open blog for hours. We need to organize a meet-up place if this joint shuts down suddenly.

    2. CamRep says:

      Fire “Attorney” General Billiam Barr.

      He is a socialist traitor who has shown his disloyalty to Trump.

      Fire him!!!! He will NOT have a position in the next Administration. Trump will remember. And so will we.

    3. Chicon says:

      Fire CamRep. He can’t even get on the short bus.

    4. Rudy G. says:

      Bill Barr needs to be executed. Him and Krebs at the same time.

    5. mnw says:

      1 sane

      Assuming the newly discovered 55 votes break EXACTLY like the other early votes in that county (65%-45% in favor of the DEM), then Brindisi (D) would pick up a net +5 votes. That would put Tenney’s (R) lead at 7 votes.

      Odds are of course that the 55 votes WON’T break exactly like all the other early votes.

    6. Wes says:

      Chicon, CamRep is a female sometimes posting under the name Yolanda.

    7. Cash Cow TM says:

      Cow has been extremely busy last two days.

      Helping Walt with extra chores…extra “honey do” lists including hanging up outside Christmas lights and pine roping, (front and back), assembling the Christmas tree (1/2 of the built in lights did not work–so had to go buy 500 more lights and install those–[F_ing Chinese]) trips to stores to buy lists of things, then more trips back to stores to take back incorrect things I bought, moving some new (used) furniture from house where we bought it to here, moving old furniture to Rescue Mission, spending 3 hours working on the water softener (did no know anything before about a “salt bridge” that needs to be pounded away).

    8. Wes says:

      65-45, Men?

      Did you take the same math course as former Hedgehogger CCCP?

    9. Wes says:

      I’m sure Walt misses the early days of humanity when covering cave walls with pictures of mammoths and Bos was the hardest part of home decor.

    10. mnw says:

      Wes

      55%-45% for the DEM in EV prior to today. My mistake.

    11. Wes says:

      I know, Mnw. (I had to check this time to keep Autocorrect from striking again.)

      It was a joke.

    12. Phil says:

      55 “found” votes?

      Sounds like Fulton County.

    13. mnw says:

      If Brindisi (D) gets a net 12 vote pickup from those 55 uncounted early votes, he would have to do a lot better than 55%.

    14. Cash Cow TM says:

      ANYWAY..

      been going through the NV SOS website and the numbers just do not add up.

      % turnout in NV is off the charts…either 72% or 74%.
      _______________________________________
      About 77,000 more votes cast than total voters who voted by mail in, early vote in person, and election day in person.

      My best guess is they musta had about 30,000 to 77,000 people who showed up on election day to register AND VOTE–…or FRAUD.
      __________________________

      TOTALS for All MAIL-IN VOTES received is different from the total mail in votes cast by voters who are D+R+Other.

      TOTALS for ALL EARLY VOTE IN PERSON are WAY different than total votes cast by all D+R+Other voters combined.

      TOTALS for ALL who voted in person on election day is different from all D+R+Others who voted on election day.
      ***********************************************

      The numbers by county show Trump won all but 2 counties (Clark and Washoe) but Trump increased his % of vote in EVER COUNTY IN NV including those two.
      ****************************************

      What is most surprising is that Trump increased his % of votes he got (compared to his 2016%) IN.EVERY.SINGLE.COUNTY.IN.NEVADA….INCLUDING WASHOE AND CLARK.
      ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

      Biden is off the charts in his YUGE number of votes he got in Clark county IN EXCESS OF WHAT HILLARY GOT in 2016.

    15. mnw says:

      Brindisi(D) would need to win those 55 newly-found early votes by 61%-39%, just to pick up the 12 votes he needs to tie the election. That would be a considerably larger margin than the 55%-45% margin by which he won all the other EVs in NY-22.

    16. Rudy G. says:

      Ducey, Kemp, and Raffezburger need to be executed too.

      Enemy of the people!

    17. Phil says:

      Then he will win them exactly 61-39.

      Come on. You’ve seen this movie over and over. You know how this works.

    18. CamRep says:

      Talk of Pardons is Treason. Because Trump won this “election” and will not leave office!

      Find an Attorney General who loves this Country! Fire the Traitor Barr!!! Don’t let Socialists Rule Our Land!!!!

    19. jaichind says:

      https://www.syracuse.com/politics/2020/12/chenango-county-finds-55-uncounted-votes-in-brindisi-tenney-house-race.html

      The 55 votes in NY-22 are election day votes which should lean Tenney. It seems only 44 of them are valid anyway. The plan is, if not blocked by courts, for them to be counted today in front of reps of both candidates.

    20. jaichind says:

      NY finally came in with their massive dump of VBM. They, as expected, a very heavy Biden and more so than expected, mostly around 80/20 lines. This puts NY to be Biden 60.2 to 38.3 which means the 2016 to 2020 NY swing is only 0.6% toward Trump with most likely some more votes to come in although they should be a trickle.

      So overall PV will most likely be around Biden 51.2 to Trump 46.9 a 0.5% swing toward the Dems relative to 2012.

    21. jaichind says:

      States that swung toward GOP in BOTH 2016 AND 2020:

      AR
      FL
      HI (Obama effect)
      NV
      NY (Superstorm Sandy effect)

      States that swung toward Dem in BOTH 2016 AND 2020:

      AZ
      GA
      IL
      KS
      MD
      MA (Romney effect wearing off)
      TX (Bush effect wearing off)
      VA

    22. JShaw says:

      A few years ago I started a “tar and feathers”list. Needs to be updated. In no particular order:

      1.) John “Oral” Roberts
      2,3,4.) Stacey Abrams
      5.) James Comey
      6.) Lois Lerner (holdover-I have a long memory)
      7.) Andrew Weissman
      8.) Hillary Clinton (holdover emeritus)
      9.) William Barr
      10.) Fauci
      11.) Barack O. (holdover)
      12.) John Brennan
      13.) Gina Haspel
      14.) Chris Wray
      15.) Gretchen Whitmer

      That takes care of one 55-gal. drum of tar and 40 lbs. of feathers. (Feathers courtesy of Mike “My Pillow” Lindell)

    23. jason says:

      Add gutless wonder Kemp to the lis.

    24. jason says:

      The 55 votes in NY-22 are election day votes which should lean Tenney. It seems only 44 of them are valid anyway. The plan is, if not blocked by courts, for them to be counted today in front of reps of both candidates.”

      Chenango went big for Tenney on election day.

      These seem to be in person votes but were probably from early in the 9 day in person voting period, that is why they were “misplaced”.’

      I am always suspicious of “found” ballots, but let’s see.

    25. jason says:

      Tenney only needs 17 of those votes.

    26. Tgca says:

      I thought Dave threw in the towel. Got sick of all you whining and complaining or maybe he felt threatened by all my EXPERTise. I dunno but I was worried there for a bit.

      I say the back up plan is to meet at Jadon’s place in case HHR goes down for good or an extended period of time.

      Start planning Jadon! At least set up an email folks can send to just in case we all get locked out here.

      I think LlamaBoy is available on most ISP.

      …or maybe Bitter can be a back-up too. I think he uses SweaterBoy on a few ISP. If not, one of these is bound to work:

      ThongMan
      FlowerGuy
      PhillyMetrosexual

    27. jason says:

      You guys should start a fund for Jadon so he can have the Llama Blog in case Hedgehog ever goes down.

    28. jason says:

      Seems like “evidence” to me…

      “During the hearing, Maricopa County GOP Chairwoman Linda Brickman testified that she saw votes for President Donald Trump being counted as votes for Joe Biden when entered into the Dominion voting machines. She also presented her testimony in a sworn affidavit.

      She said that she and her Democratic partner saw the votes shift to Biden more than once when they were trying to enter ballots that couldn’t be read by the machines.

      “I observed, with my Democratic partner, the preparation of a new ballot, since the original one was soiled, or wouldn’t go through the tabulators. I read her a Trump Republican ballot, and as soon as she entered it into the system, the ballot defaulted on the screen to a Biden Democratic ballot,” Brickman told GOP Arizona State legislators on Monday.

      She remarked that when she reported the issue to election supervisors, others in the room also commented that they had “witnessed the same manipulation.”

      This should be easy to check if the Democratic partner is willing to be forthcoming and honest.

      Brickman said she was never told about any correction being taken. Instead, she was called out by the supervisor and told she was causing problem and “bringing up things that I shouldn’t have.” She was told that she couldn’t discuss or talk about what was going on. She said many people were threatened. “They were told that their voices would be suppressed, they would have to leave the room and not work there again. I’m here because I think this is our duty to speak the truth.”

      Brickman said she refused to approve the certification of the Dominion system with Secretary of State Katie Hobbs “because the machines had malfunctioned during the test, and were shut down and reset by Dominion staff instead of corrected.”

      Brickman also detailed how the standards for signature verification were supposed to be around 15 points of similarities to none, that they were eventually just passing everything through whether the signature matched or not because they were told there were “too many rejections” being made and they had to “move quickly.” She said she personally observed signatures on the envelopes that didn’t match those of the actual voters but they were passed through as “verified.”

      There were also envelopes that were all signed with someone with the same handwriting, that didn’t match the various voters’ signatures.

      “There were at least 30 ballots that I saw at one time, that were signed by the same handwriting but on different voters’ names,” Brickman testified. “When I asked if the county attorney would be alerted for possible fraud, I was told ‘no,’ that supervisors would take care of it.”

      Brickman also called out how they were tossing overrates for President Donald Trump where there were “overvotes,” where a voter filled in the bubble for Trump but then also wrote Trump in as a write-in candidate.

      She said the policy previously had been to accept the overvote where the intention was clear. But in this case when it was clear the intention was for Trump, it wasn’t accepted.

      Brickman blasted the whole process saying, “There should be integrity.”

      She refused to certify what she had observed, actually entering her objection formally.

    29. Wobbles says:

      I see nothing. I hear nothing. I know nothing.

    30. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #24&25

      Add:Mitt Romney, Mary Trump, Paul Ryan and Mad Dog Jim Mattis

    31. jason says:

      “This should be easy to check if the Democratic partner is willing to be forthcoming and honest.”

      Put her in the Federal witness protection program first.

    32. Gordon Allen says:

      Seems like ” evidence” to me. Has anyone told AG Barr?

    33. jason says:

      The GA SOS should go on the list. What a spineless turd.

    34. jason says:

      I say the back up plan is to meet at Jadon’s place in case HHR goes down for good or an extended period of time.”

      You will starve to death.

      We don’t have any organic tree bark for you to eat and I am not risking contamination of my meat cellar with any of your disgusting concoctions.

    35. jason says:

      You guys would love it here.

      Many say indoor plumbing is overrated, and there is nothing like the sweet smell of wet llama fur wafting through the morning air.

      I will accommodate Tgca and mnw in the library since they are the most learned, Tgcal will benefit the most from my extensive llama husbandry

    36. jason says:

      You guys would love it here.

      Many say indoor plumbing is overrated, and there is nothing like the sweet smell of wet llama fur wafting through the morning air.

      I will accommodate Tgca and mnw in the library since they are the most learned, Tgca will benefit the most from my extensive llama husbandry collection and mnw will enjoy my Quechua-English neologism encyclopedia.

      I will set up an office for Bitter in the gun room , he is the only one I can trust not to tamper with them.

      Robbie Goebbels, sorry but the best MSNBC reception is next to the outhouse, we can set up a tent there.

      Cash Cow will make lots of friends in Amos’s barn.

      We will wing it for the rest of you, plenty of space.

    37. Gordon Allen says:

      A thought. If the FBI can’t find evidence of fraud,why doesn’t Barr order them to monitor this site? Might help those sleuth’s.

    38. Jeffrey Shaw says:

      @35: GA SOS is indeed a spineless porcelain pickle. And I’d just add the spine is crooked.

    39. Sexy Sydney Powell says:

      Army confirms Dominion server seizures in Germany and Malaysia!!

      BOOM BANG BANG OH YES BANG ME.

    40. jason says:

      How to rig an election.

      Hypothetical, of course. None of this could ever happen.

      Robbie Goebbels said so.

      https://townhall.com/columnists/larryoconnor/2020/12/01/if-you-wanted-to-rig-an-election-youd-do-exactly-what-dems-did-in-2020-n2580876?112

    41. Robbie says:

      Wes

      Mark Walker announced he’s running for Senate in North Carolina in 2022 and he rolled out several endorsements including Tim Scott.

      Unless the deadender caucus mucks up the primary, Mark Walker looks like the favorite to not only win the primary but the general election as well.

      I haven’t seen a single Democrat who might have statewide appeal mention any serious interest in running yet.

    42. Robbie says:

      The Associated Press
      @AP
      BREAKING: Attorney General William Barr tells AP that the Justice Department hasn’t uncovered widespread voting fraud that could have changed 2020 election outcome.

      – My god! Hugo Chavez’s ghost got to Bill Barr as well! Sidney Powell was right.

      Now, I understand why General Flynn and Lin Wood called for Trump to impose martial law today so he can remain in power.

      IMPOSE MARTIAL LAW NOW!

    43. CamRep says:

      Breaking: Patriot Michael Flynn has called for the temporary suspension of the Constitution.

      He is wrong.

      A permanent suspension is more warranted and within the President’s lawful power. The Republicans have failed our country and they have failed our Leader. The only way for our country to defeat the Socialist intruders is to abolish these institutions that hold us down! The only way to protect our way of life is to do as the Foundation FATHERS intended and throw out this harmful Document!!

    44. jason says:

      I don’t see why Walker is he “favorite”.

      I think if Lara Trump runs, she might be a contender.

      McCrory said he might run too.

      This is very likely going to be a crowded primary.

    45. Sexy Sydney Powell says:

      Yes I’m right. Barr, Krebs, Ducey, Kemp, and the GA SOS need to be executed.

    46. Phil says:

      Did I miss the reason supposedly Cooper won’t be running on the Democratic side in 2022?

    47. Robbie says:

      Retired General Tom McInerney, who was fired from FoxNews in 2018 for accusing John McCain of being a collaborator with the North Vietnamese, says Trump launched a Special Forces raid on a secret CIA farm in Frankfurt, Germany that housed a super secret server that was used to flip votes from Trump to Biden! It’s happening!

      McInerney says the specials forces unit was able to take control of the CIA farm, but, sadly, five soldier were killed in the raid. To cover up what happened. McInerney says their bodies were placed in the Army helicopter that crashed in Sinai recently. The crash was a FAKE to cover up what happened. Mind blowing!

      McInerney also says Trump and Sexy Sidney “the kraken” Powell are working with the 305th Military Intelligence Battalion to uncover what took place on election day. Never mind that the 305th is a training unit that hasn’t seen active status since 1990, they’re working to uncover the Dominion plot led by Hugo Chavez’s ghost.

      This getting real folks! Like Q says, “Where we go one, we go all”! Thank goodness for McInerney. He should be made head of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in Trump’s new term and sexy Sidney “the kraken” Powell can CIA director.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9008445/Retired-three-star-claims-soldiers-died-attacking-CIA-facility-Germany-tied-fraud.html

    48. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #48
      Phil
      The Lt. Governor is an AA Republican. He would become Governor if Cooper wins.

    49. Chicon says:

      Robbie Goebbels has returned.

    50. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      December 2, 2020 at 11:00 am
      Did I miss the reason supposedly Cooper won’t be running on the Democratic side in 2022?

      – The Lt. governor is a Republican and he doesn’t want a Republican to take over for him.

    51. Robbie says:

      And by the way, was written completely tongue in cheek.

    52. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      December 2, 2020 at 11:02 am
      Robbie Goebbels has returned.

      – The guy who believed Andrew Napolitano’s ridiculous 2017 claim Obama used the British spy agencies to snoop on Trump has returned.

    53. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      The never-ending saga of NY CD-22; Tenney(R) v Brindisi(D):

      “UPDATE: Chenango election officials confirmed a breakdown of the 55 ballot party affiliations. This is not how they voted, just how they’re registered.

      Of the 44 “countable” ballots, 21 are likely pro-Tenney, 12 likely pro-Brindisi.

      No final #’s but appears they help R #NY22″(H/T: J Rosenblatt-Reporter)

      https://twitter.com/JRosenblattTV/status/1334141479011430405

    54. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      December 2, 2020 at 11:00 am
      Did I miss the reason supposedly Cooper won’t be running on the Democratic side in 2022?

      – Also, not everyone wants to be a Senator. Look at Brian Sandoval. He could all but waltz into the Senate if he decided to run, but he has consistently said he’s not interested.

    55. Robbie says:

      Sheeple,Jr. says:
      December 2, 2020 at 11:04 am
      The never-ending saga of NY CD-22; Tenney(R) v Brindisi(D):

      “UPDATE: Chenango election officials confirmed a breakdown of the 55 ballot party affiliations. This is not how they voted, just how they’re registered.

      Of the 44 “countable” ballots, 21 are likely pro-Tenney, 12 likely pro-Brindisi.

      No final #’s but appears they help R #NY22?(H/T: J Rosenblatt-Reporter)

      https://twitter.com/JRosenblattTV/status/1334141479011430405

      – I would not be shocked to see this race tied up in court for months and then have Pelosi have the House vote to seat Brindisi even if he lost. The same thing happened after the 1984 election when a Republican won IN8, but Tip O’Neil and Democrats in the House voted to seat the Democrat.

    56. Phil says:

      I could see Pelosi pulling that not only with the NY seat but even with the Iowa seat that has been certified. It would be a terrible look but Pelosi would know the MSM would absolutely give her cover. It’s the same reason that Democrats will not hesitate to do radical things like kill the filibuster, pack the court, and give Washington DC two Democratic senators. They know their friends in the MSM will give them cover.

      They can get away with virtually anything.

    57. Robbie says:

      At least when I supported Jeb Bush for president in 2015 and early 2016, he had two very successful terms as governor of Florida to justify backing him. He turned out to be a crappy candidate, but at least he had a resume and list of accomplishments.

      Other than her last name, what exactly would be the case for Lara Trump in North Carolina? Do we know if she was even a Republican before her father-in-law ran for president in 2015? Do we know what her views on policy are?

      If memory serves me, a candidate needs to get over 50% in the North Carolina primary to avoid a primary runoff. Trump, if she ran, might guarantee there’s a primary runoff, but there’s also no guarantee she’d be in the runoff. And if history is any guide, a runoff can produce a terrible outcome like good ole Roy Moore.

      I’m dubious the Trump’s will have the staying power some believe, but we’ll see.

    58. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #57- Robbie
      I remember that IN CD-8 contest. Wasn’t that district referred to for a long time as the Bloody 8th?
      The Republicans were so irate about this Dem. power play in 1984, the era of Newt Gingrich and his “Fighting” Republicans was ushered in.

    59. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      December 2, 2020 at 11:18 am
      I could see Pelosi pulling that not only with the NY seat but even with the Iowa seat that has been certified. It would be a terrible look but Pelosi would know the MSM would absolutely give her cover. It’s the same reason that Democrats will not hesitate to do radical things like kill the filibuster, pack the court, and give Washington DC two Democratic senators. They know their friends in the MSM will give them cover.

      They can get away with virtually anything.

      – One seat? Yes. Two seats? No way. Her majority is going to be too small to do that. It will be hard to get those considered “moderates” in her caucus to walk the plank for that, especially since 2022 could be a tough year for Democrats.

    60. Robbie says:

      Sheeple,Jr. says:
      December 2, 2020 at 11:19 am
      #57- Robbie
      I remember that IN CD-8 contest. Wasn’t that district referred to for a long time as the Bloody 8th?
      The Republicans were so irate about this Dem. power play in 1984, the era of Newt Gingrich and his “Fighting” Republicans was ushered in.

      – Yep. Democrats stole it. Lee Hamilton, a Democrat who represented IN9, opposed the steal. Democrats got away with it, but that was a very different time.

    61. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #58- Phil
      We usually agree but on this issue I respectfully disagree. The blowback would be enormous in the 2022 Congressional races akin to “Remember the Alamo”.
      Alternate and social media, which were non-existent in 1984, would not allow Republicans and other fair-minded voters to forget.

    62. jason says:

      Did Barr or the FBI actually conduct any investigations?

      If they did, they are very well hidden.

    63. Chicon says:

      57 – sounds a bit conspiracy theoryish to me, RG. Kinda like the brokered convention. BTW, the famous brokered convention canard is one of the most outlandish piles of turd placed on this board. Yet the purveyor of said pile laughs at the theories of others.

      Being a good Catholic – at least for an hour per week – Robbie knows that the one without sin casts the first stone. Maybe he missed that day.

    64. jason says:

      Lara Trump is extremely articulate and can hold her own on the “issues”, I have seen various interviews with her and she was a great surrogate for Trump in NC. She was the producer for Inside Edition for 4 years so she is certainly media savvy.

      I don’t know how well she would do in her own campaign, but I have a feeling if she runs she would be a strong contender.

      But don’s worry, I won’t be supporting her or anyone else.

    65. Phil says:

      Moderates? Come on, Robbie. There are no moderates in the Dem House caucus. None. Zip.

      Want proof? Name me one Democrat that didn’t gladly vote to impeach Trump – this includes reps like Cunningham and Horn from Republican districts that knew they would be in dog fights for reelection.

      Why do people continue to to assume there are Democratic moderates. There is no evidence they exist. The term is something the MSM likes to throw around to try and get Democrats elected in swing and Republican districts.

      Quit playing their game, Robbie.

    66. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      December 2, 2020 at 11:33 am
      Moderates? Come on, Robbie. There are no moderates in the Dem House caucus. None. Zip.

      – That’s why I put the term in quotes.

    67. Phil says:

      Fair enough.

    68. jason says:

      At least when I supported Jeb Bush for president in 2015 and early 2016, he had two very successful terms as governor of Florida to justify backing him”

      Actually, no, because he distanced himself as much as possible from his record as Governor.

      Instead of running as THE conservative in the race, he decided he would be anointed the nominee and he could concentrate on the GE, where he would run as a a muddled middle moderate. As such he had nothing to offer the R primary voters except garbage like “I will respect conservatives” and “illegal immigration is an act of love”. So he spent $250 million for 4 delegates.

      Many of here from the outset said there was no reason to support him, he wasn’t going anywhere, and if he thought nobody would run against in the primaries he was smoking crack.

      The “front runner juggernaut”, “suck up all the money”, “corner all the endorsements”, etc. ended up attracting no less than 17 opponents, who saw he had no message, was weak and unprepared and with horrible body language to boot.

    69. jason says:

      As usual, whatever Robbie Goebbels regurgitates here from the MSM is BS.

      “Some media outlets have incorrectly reported that the Department has concluded its investigation of election fraud and announced an affirmative finding of no fraud in the election,” a DOJ spokesman stated. “That is not what the Associated Press reported nor what the Attorney General stated. The Department will continue to receive and vigorously pursue all specific and credible allegations of fraud as expeditiously as possible.”

    70. jason says:

      This is only going to get worse.

      “Twitter banned the account of Bobby Piton, a mathematician and expert witness who testified at the Arizona voter fraud hearing yesterday.

      According to reports on Twitter, Piton’s account was suspended during his testimony, while the hearing was still ongoing.”

      So, who is Bobby Piton?

      “He is an expert witness who testified at the voter fraud hearing on Tuesday. Apparently, the radical leftist powers that be at Twitter didn’t appreciate Piton’s testimony. During the hearing, he said that if he were in charge of certifying Arizona’s election results, he would “rather resign” than put his name on the election outcome.

      He said:

      “If I was an executive at a publicly-traded company, I would never sign that, because I risk jail time and having all my money taken from me in lawsuits. So, to answer your question, I would never, ever, have certified. I’d rather resign than certify those results.

      I believe they’re fraudulent based on the data, and my sister asked me a simple question this morning, she goes ‘how sure are you?’… And I said, I’d be willing to put my life on it. I’m that sure about my analysis, assuming that the data that I got, from the state and everything else, was accurate.

    71. Wes says:

      I’m not sold on Lara Trump. Celebrity candidates with minimal history with the state party aren’t the types of people the NCGOP tends to cotton to.

      Liddy Dole was the closest example of such, but in addition to being the wife of a former Senator and presidential candidate, she had a history as Transportation Secretary and head of the Red Cross that lent weight to her candidacy.

      Lara Trump is basically a tabula rasa with a President as father-in-law. She doesn’t strike me as anything particularly special in a potential primary.

      Walker is a solid candidate who straddles the line between Establishment and grass roots. He has no particular vulnerabilities I’m aware of.

      McCrory was collateral damage for the moronic “Bathroom Bill.” After six years out of office, he may have rehabbed his image, but Dems will definitely use that issue to try to attack him.

      AG Josh Stein is the Dems’ best bet, but with two narrow wins against weak opponents under his belt, he’s not exactly intimidating.

      One would think Cooper would be the Dems’ ideal candidate, but he underperformed against Forest and would leave the governorship in GOP hands. He’s never shown any interest in the Senate either. Last time a Dem Governor ran for NC-Sen, he was much more popular and better situated to win than Cooper. It still didn’t work out all that well for the Dems.

    72. Wes says:

      After Cooper and Stein, Dems have no noteworthy potential candidates.

    73. Phil says:

      Cunningham is finished?

      Seems he had it won before zippergate.

    74. Robbie says:

      I know this is not an issue that moves the needle here anymore, but I’m absolutely infuriated the British have approved Pfizer’s vaccine for emergency use before the US has and we’re the ones who put the money into it. Even worse, the FDA won’t get around to possibly approving it for another two weeks.

    75. Phil says:

      The FDA was always holding out as long as possible. Priority #1 for them was to make sure it wasn’t approved BEFORE the election. like everything else the fix was in for Biden.

    76. mnw says:

      Robbie

      You post a lot of outlandish crud here.

    77. jason says:

      It is easy when it’s other people’s money.

      JanetYellen says she’ll use the Treasury Dept. to address racial inequality, “gender disparities,” and “the climate crisis”

    78. jason says:

      I know this is not an issue that moves the needle ‘there anymore, but I’m absolutely infuriated the British have approved Pfizer’s vaccine for emergency use before the US has and we’re the ones who put the money into it. Even worse, the FDA won’t get around to possibly approving it for another two weeks.”

      Since mnw is around I will go with “this post evokes a strong feeling of torpor, languor, and sleepiness”.

    79. jason says:

      Cunningham is finished?

      Seems he had it won before zippergate.”

      wes doesn’t think so and I tend to agree.

      The polls were way off and Cunningham never had the lead the agenda pollsters said he had, so the impact of Three banging Cal’s escapades might be exaggerated.

    80. Wes says:

      Phil, the Army is investigating Cunningham for UCMJ violations, and the Dems just spent over $100 million on Cal only to see Tillis.

      In what universe is that a recipe for a viable future political career?

    81. jason says:

      CNN is still excited about COVID, but the fact is in April when we had 30k cases we had almost 3k deaths.

      Now we are running 150k+ cases a day with less than 1k deaths.

      The MSM will ignore the fact the mortality rate is a fraction of what it was.

      And COVID without a high mortality rate is just another flu.

    82. Wes says:

      …see Tillis win*.

    83. jason says:

      The moonbats are probably convinced Cunningham cost them the senate.

      Schumer is on record saying that the Dems would have won the senate if “Cunningham had kept his zipper up”.

      So it is unlikely they are going to want to run him again for any important office.

    84. jason says:

      Schumer also said RBG’s death cost the Dems the Senate, but I don’t see the logic in that.

    85. jason says:

      Touché…

      “Donald Trump Jr.
      @DonaldJTrumpJr
      It’s amazing that CNN had no problem aggressively running with secretly recorded audio tapes of the First Lady non-stop for weeks, but has a serious problem when someone does the exact same thing to them!

      If it wasn’t for double standards, they would have no standards at all.”

    86. Wes says:

      Of course Schumer could also blame Harrison, Hegar, Gideon, McGrath, Greenfield, and Bullock for sucking up hundreds of millions of dollars and not producing.

    87. Wes says:

      M. J. Hegar–the rather vulgar former would-be Senator from Texas–is trying to sell her campaign’s principal ad prop.

    88. NYCmike says:

      https://fee.org/articles/dr-fauci-basically-admits-rand-paul-was-right-6-months-ago-on-schools-and-covid-19/

      “Central planning fails and wreaks havoc on the individuals in a country because of the knowledge problem. The knowledge problem refers to a concept developed by Hayek in his work “The Use of Knowledge in Society.” It’s actually a pretty simple economic concept that holds that central planners cannot possibly possess all of the information they need to successfully direct the lives of others—especially given the need for rapid adaptation in response to changing circumstances.”

    89. NYCmike says:

      BUT, llamas in PA have organized a petition for another Medal of Freedom for “Dr.” Fauci…..

    90. mnw says:

      Schumer takes a MICRO view of the DEMs’ Senate disappointments– one guy had a zipper problem; Collins would’ve lost but for RBG’s death; Tank Abrams would’ve won in GA in the first round if only she’d run, etc. These points are all arguably valid, or at least worthy of consideration.

      However, from a MACRO view, it looks to me like the root cause of the DEM disappointments in both the Senate & the House was that they all ran on anti-Trump, & after that? Nothing, at least nothing the voters noticed.

      The DEMs didn’t pour money into advertising anything affirmative– such as prescription drug costs; health care improvements/insurance reform; college affordability/student loan amelioration. These are all issues where the DEMs had some traction going in.

      (Disclaimer: I think all of the issues I mention were a pantload, of course.)

    91. NYCmike says:

      https://pjmedia.com/election/victoria-taft/2020/12/01/just-as-we-feared-californias-economic-refugees-ruined-arizona-in-the-2020-election-n1182173

      -NY did it from the east towards the west, down to the south and up to the north. California did it from the west up to the north, and now to the east.

    92. Wes says:

      Refugees from New York have been trying to turn NC into a Marxist paradise ever since 2008. Thankfully native Tarheels have starved them off thus far.

    93. Wes says:

      Staved*

    94. jason says:

      I like starve….they might leave sooner.

    95. WizardofCozz says:

      I think they should starve them Wes, then maybe they’ll leave.

    96. NYCmike says:

      RIP to Walter E Williams.

      I was introduced to both him and Thomas Sowell as guest hosts on The Rush Limbaugh Show back in the 90’s. I read his wonderful autobiography “Up From The Projects”. We lost a true patriot!

    97. NYCmike says:

      C

    98. mnw says:

      Bad news for “Free Trader jason”! Biden says that he “won’t revoke Trump’s tariffs on China immediately.”

      jason will have to wait a little while, probably VERY little, before the free trade he adores is restored. And everything will be good again. /s

      On another topic Lamar Alexander gave his self-styled farewell address today. I didn’t read it. Good riddance. He represented the kind of “bipartisanship” the DEMs love to see… in a Republican, anyway. Hopefully Senator-elect Hagerty will be a major conservative upgrade. I did say “hopefully”– he may “grow” in office & become a NYT fave.

    99. NYCmike says:

      ” Hopefully Senator-elect Hagerty will be a major conservative upgrade.”

      -We shall see. No reason why not, as Tennessee is a reliably conservative state.

    100. mnw says:

      Hi, NYC

      It’s time to drop the puck.

      For a reliably conservative state, which TN is, it sure has elected some damn peculiar senators, such Alexander and Bob (Tehran Robert) Corker.

    101. jason says:

      jason will have to wait a little while, probably VERY little, before the free trade he adores is restored”

      Sorry, but the Dems are also paid by the AFL-CIO so they hardly believe in free trade.

      With Trump, they got their agenda for free. Now at least they will have to pay for it.

    102. jason says:

      I wish we had a senate with 100 Bob Corkers. Nothing wrong with Lamar Alexander either, actually.

    103. jason says:

      I was critical of Trump and the AFL-CIO conservatives here for implementing/supporting the failed trade war tariff based AFL-CIO agenda of protectionism and isolationism of the last 60 years.

      Why would I think Biden would be any better, the Dems LOVE tariffs and protectionism.

    104. Waingro says:

      #106, “Why would I think Biden would be any better, the Dems LOVE tariffs and protectionism.”

      And didn’t Biden campaign just on that? He seemed to co-opt Trump’s very own protectionist principles on trade.

    105. Waingro says:

      Great.

      Brad Heath
      @bradheath
      ·
      27m
      Ex-Trump lawyer Sidney Powell encourages “all Georgians to make it known that you will not vote at all until your vote is secure.” She says there shouldn’t be a Senate runoff.

      She says we need to have voter ID and paper ballots. Georgia has both of those things.
      Brad Heath
      @bradheath
      ·
      15m
      Trump ally L. Lin Wood – a plaintiff in one, err, long-shot suit to overturn the election and a lawyer in another – says “Joe Biden will never set foot in the Oval Office of this country. It will not happen on our watch. Never gonna happen.”
      Brad Heath
      @bradheath
      ·
      9m
      Wood says Republicans should withhold their votes from Sens. Perdue and Loeffler unless they publicly endorse these utterly unsubstantiated claims that the Nov. 3 election was rigged.

    106. mnw says:

      Sheep

      In NY-22, where Tenney (R) MIGHT win by 10 votes or so, and may very well still lose, it should always be remembered that…the good ole Libertarian candidate got 6733 votes!!!

      Wonder how much money the DEMs plowed into the Libertarian party in THAT district?

      But, as Wes will likely point out, “while the Libertarian vote was probably not helpful to her, Tenney still would’ve lost…” etc.

    107. PresidentPaul! says:

      Im against any further stimulus bills, but id still be in favor of passing the new pelosi bill bc it will have an effect on georgia.

      If we crash and dems get senate, we do a 30 trillion dollar stimulus instead.

    108. zorkpolitics says:

      In IA02 where the Republican won by 6 votes, the loser Democrat is skipping an Iowa judicial review and jumping to the House so Pelosi can overturn the election.

    109. Tgca says:

      78 MNW

      Crud! Now there’s a word I’ve not heard used in quite some time.

      Personally, I think it is much more derogatorily appealing than “amoral scumbag” which is getting a bit dated these days me thinks.

      What sounds better?

      Robbie is an amoral scumbag or

      Robbie is crud?

      Hmmm…

    110. Tgca says:

      93 MNW

      Oooh! MNW is on a roll today.

      Pantload?

      I think pantload of crud is a fun expression and it’s especially doubly derogatory too.

      Robbie is just a pantload of crud!

      That sounds much better than Robbie is an amoral scumbag me thinks.

    111. Tgca says:

      95

      Sorry Wes! I know a few people from the Sewer State that have moved to your beloved Crispy Creme state. Sooner or later, NC will not be very distinguishable from NJ.

      I heard Senator Menendez was purchasing some retirement property in NC too.

    112. Robbie says:

      Brad Heath
      @bradheath
      Wood says Republicans should withhold their votes from Sens. Perdue and Loeffler unless they publicly endorse these utterly unsubstantiated claims that the Nov. 3 election was rigged.

      – When con artists, conspiracy theorists, and charlatans become mainstream, this is what you get.

      If you want the party to be defined Lin Wood and Sydney Powell, you’re well on your way to getting it.

      This was the inevitable endpoint of the last five years.

    113. mnw says:

      Tg

      Hope your back & job prospects are both good?

      Speaking of things that irritate me…

      Kim Klacik (R) raised & spent appx $7 million in her MD-07 race. For one brief shining moment, she was the GOP’s conservative sweetheart.

      For her trouble, she lost the open seat 72%-28%. In 2018, DEM incumbent Elijah Cummings got 76%.

      So, $7 million to increase the GOP share in that utterly hopeless district FROM 24% TO… 28%.

      I admire Klacik a great deal, but that $7 million would’ve gone some way to help other GOP candidates in districts where the GOP actually had a chance to win.

      Every day for 2 months, I ran into Klacik ads every time I logged on to th ‘Net. What a waste!

    114. Robbie says:

      mnw says:
      December 2, 2020 at 12:34 pm
      Robbie

      You post a lot of outlandish crud here.

      – And by a lot of outlandish crud, you mean I don’t subscribe to conspiracy theories that there was a massive effort by Venezuela, China, and Cuba to flip votes from Trump to Biden.

    115. Wes says:

      A few things about Tenney, Mnw:

      1) She hasn’t lost yet.

      2) Whoever wins will have a plurality of the vote rather than a majority.

      3) The Libertarian clearly did hurt her, though the extent is not clear since she may still win, whereas Jon Tester received an outright majority of the vote in Montana, thus indicating Matt Rosendale lost not because a Libertarian was in the race but because Rosendale ran a poor campaign.

    116. Robbie says:

      Caitlin Dickson
      @CEDickson
      Sidney Powell, who is greeted like a rockstar by the large crowd in Georgia, just now said she would “encourage Georgians to not vote at all until your vote is secure. I mean that regardless of party.

      – For every action, there’s a consequence. Trump and Rudy allowed this idiot to make wild claims and now there’s a chance it will make to wild liberals senators from Georgia.

      I’d like to think Trump would tell people not to pay attention to this con artist, but there’s absolutely no evidence he cares about the Republican Party.

      Trump cares about himself and he thinks putting these ridiculous people out there to spread ridiculous claims will help him maintain his following once he heads into retirement in January.

    117. Tgca says:

      116 MNW

      I finish work at the end of the year. Then I’m going on welfare mofos! I deserve it.

      I might write a book or something in my new founded free time but it’s a bit challenging to choose the topic since I’m an EXPERT on everything except all things gay – see LisaB for that.

    118. Chicon says:

      Robbie – no worries, you’ll have your coalition of the pure in no time. Enjoy it.

    119. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      December 2, 2020 at 4:05 pm
      Robbie – no worries, you’ll have your coalition of the pure in no time. Enjoy it.

      – It’s one thing to believe the issues Trump believes. It’s another to believe in the carnival barkers, lunatics, and conspiracy theorists he has promoted as the real conservatives.

      And by the way, I’m not looking for a coalition of the pure and I never have. I am for a party that purges the conspiracy theorists and kooks.

    120. Chicon says:

      122 – including those wet dreaming for brokered conventions to bypass those pesky voters? Those kooks?

    121. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      December 2, 2020 at 4:15 pm
      122 – including those wet dreaming for brokered conventions to bypass those pesky voters? Those kooks?

      – A contested convention, if no one has the necessary delegates, is part of the process and part of the rules every candidates accepts when he or she runs for president.

      A rabble of idiots who claim Brian Kemp took a bribe from Dominion to make sure Trump lost and advocate that people not vote for the Republicans as punishment is pure lunacy.

    122. Chicon says:

      124 – right, right, right. Robbie’s kooky ideas are not kooky. Everyone else’s kooky ideas are ban worthy. We see how it is.

    123. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      December 2, 2020 at 4:34 pm
      124 – right, right, right. Robbie’s kooky ideas are not kooky. Everyone else’s kooky ideas are ban worthy. We see how it is.

      – If you think using the rules available to all candidates to win the nomination are kooky, then fine. The rules are the rules, though. If you don’t like the rules, fight to have them changed.

      Suggesting Brian Kemp took a bribe from Dominion to make sure Trump lost or suggesting communists in Germany changed vote totals from Trump to Biden is 100% kooky and not remotely the same as using the rules established by the party to gain the nomination.

      Equating the two is flat out nonsense.

    124. Chicon says:

      126 – “If you think using the rules available to all candidates to win the nomination are kooky, then fine.”

      You’ve been on here for weeks whining like a three year old because Trump is using rules available to all candidates (challenging the outcome of the vote).

      Pick a lane, Chief.

    125. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      December 2, 2020 at 4:47 pm
      126 – “If you think using the rules available to all candidates to win the nomination are kooky, then fine.”

      You’ve been on here for weeks whining like a three year old because Trump is using rules available to all candidates (challenging the outcome of the vote).

      – LOL! I am not whining about Trump using the rules. I haven’t demanded he concede. I’ve said if he has evidence, go to court. And in fact, that’s what Trump has done, repeatedly. Now, I have said it’s time for him to decide how to bring this to an end since he’s lost all of his court cases, but that’s different from demanding Trump quit.

      Frankly, I don’t think the vast majority of America cares whether Trump concedes or not. Nor do I think most care about his legal fights. I think the country has, mostly, tuned him out and moved on from him. The Trump reality TV show continues to air new episodes every day, but fewer and fewer are watching.

      On the other hand, I have absolutely screamed at the top of my lungs about the lunatic idiocy coming from charlatans like Rudy, Sidney “kraken” Powell, and the newest idiot Lin Wood. They’re actively trying to hurt the party.

    126. Phil says:

      The election was stolen, Robbie.

      That’s a fact.

    127. Chicon says:

      128 – “I am not whining about Trump using the rules.”

      Lie. Complete lie.

    128. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      December 2, 2020 at 5:05 pm
      The election was stolen, Robbie.

      That’s a fact.

      – No, that’s an opinion.

      If Bill Barr could have found fraud of the kind that would have overturned the result, he would have made it public.

    129. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      December 2, 2020 at 5:14 pm
      128 – “I am not whining about Trump using the rules.”

      Lie. Complete lie.

      – Nope.

      I’m pissed that idiots like Sidney Powell and Lin Wood are pushing wild conspiracy theories.

      I’ve noticed you don’t seem to have a problem with that they’re doing, though.

    130. Phil says:

      Ok, Robbie. I’m going to try to tell you this one last time. The losing candidate does not carry 18 of 19 national swing counties that have voted for the presidential winner in all presidential elections since 1956….and he sure as hell doesn’t carry them by an average of 15 points.

      That is statistically impossible. Sorry, it just is.

    131. Phil says:

      I want to be spot on accurate here so I’m going to make a slight correction. There are 19 counties in the US that have had a perfect record of going with the winner since 1980. 19. It’s those 19 that Trump carried 18.

    132. Phil says:

      Again, statistically impossible to lose the election with those numbers. Election was stolen in, Milwaukee, Detroit, Philadelphia and Pittsburg, and Atlanta.

    133. Pitchaboy says:

      Mr. Wray will be held on by SloJo. Tells you what a great pick that was.

    134. Pitchaboy says:

      Alito and the Supremes supremely silent. Probably taking it all in!

    135. Country Dick Montana says:

      “Pittsburg”

      That is in Kansas. The PA city is Pittsburgh, with an “h”.

    136. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      December 2, 2020 at 5:27 pm
      Ok, Robbie. I’m going to try to tell you this one last time. The losing candidate does not carry 18 of 19 national swing counties that have voted for the presidential winner in all presidential elections since 1956….and he sure as hell doesn’t carry them by an average of 15 points.

      That is statistically impossible. Sorry, it just is

      – I’m going to repeat what I’ve said for months and months. A lot of people who traditionally vote Republican simply didn’t want Trump to win so they voted for Biden for the presidency and then Republicans in the rest of the races. I mentioned way back in 2018 “Trump fatigue” would be an issue and it was.

      I think that fact was continually underrated in this forum all year. This forum does not reflect the average Republican voter anymore. In the years before Trump, this forum was about supporting electable Republicans at all levels. Since Trump, this forum reflects, more and more, the view of the hardcore populist base voter. So I’m not surprised more than a few were reluctant to believe Republicans wouldn’t vote for a certain Republican.

      Additionally, swing counties change over time just as swing states change over time. Missouri was a bell weather state until 2004, but it became a consistent Republican state and hasn’t been predictive nationally since. It backed McCain, Romney and Trump. All three lost.

      The example of Vigo county in Indiana is another good example. It was the bell weather county for decades and decades, but should it really surprise us that, as states change, it didn’t forecast the outcome. Terra Haute is a mostly rural area of Indiana. Biden was never going to win there. Eastern Kentucky was the powerbase of the Democrat party in Kentucky. Pike County for a century screamed “Democrat”. Mondale beat Reagan there. But in 2020, Trump got an astonishing 79% of the vote in the county. The rural/urban divide became starker this year.

    137. Pitchaboy says:

      Statistically speaking, you don’t get 18/19 counties change in one election. In evolutionary terms that would be the equivalent of punctuated equilibrium. That event was more likely fraud than the ever so charming SloJo.

    138. Tgca says:

      Phil is right!

      Since I say he’s right, then he must be right since I’m an EXPERT and I would not say something that is not right.

      The election was stolen by Dems manipulating votes where needed in Dem strongholds in swing states. Funny how these same voting anomalies did not show up in states Dems knew were safe.

      Robbie does not get it! He’s a pantload of crud!

    139. Country Dick Montana says:

      I think it is fun to have conspiracy theorists and kooks in the party. But let’s purge them so that we can finally destroy the GOP of the county club and big Government, then rebuild it into a real people’s party.

      What I would really like to see is that we just stop voting and tell DC to shove it. That whole place is nothing but a scam, loaded with self-centered tyrant wannabes, and that is just the unelected slugs on the Federal payroll. Let us have them DEMS in charge for a while then when it burns to the ground rebuild.

    140. Pitchaboy says:

      The only surprise in this election was Robbi’e’s vote. Still cannot believe it. Rest is par for the course including fraud.

    141. Country Dick Montana says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      December 2, 2020 at 6:11 pm

      The only surprise in this election was Robbi’e’s vote. Still cannot believe it. Rest is par for the course including fraud.

      Now, Now Pitch. You are venturing very close to kook and conspiracy theorist territory.

    142. Robbie says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      December 2, 2020 at 6:08 pm
      Statistically speaking, you don’t get 18/19 counties change in one election. In evolutionary terms that would be the equivalent of punctuated equilibrium. That event was more likely fraud than the ever so charming SloJo.

      – It’s not really that surprising. In 2008 and 2012, Obama was such a unique candidate that he was able to stand against the tide of change in many counties that were considered bell weathers. Once he was not on the ballot, those counties continued their rapid shift towards Republicans.

      There’s an Ohio Congressional district created after the 2010 census that was supposed to be a 50/50 breakdown. In this past election, it went for the Republican with 70% or so of the vote. The counties that were considered bell weathers are no long such because we have seen such a rapid realignment towards Republicans in more rural areas.

      Had Obama not been on the ballot in 2008 and 2012, many of those counties would have gone for McCain and Romney and lost their status as bell weathers.

    143. Robbie says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      December 2, 2020 at 6:11 pm
      The only surprise in this election was Robbi’e’s vote. Still cannot believe it. Rest is par for the course including fraud.

      – I voted straight party so I voted for Trump.
      It will always be one of the worst votes I cast, but so be it. Voting for Trump was not easy, but I rewarded him for Amy Coney Barrett.

      As for par for the course, I guess that could also apply to those who believed Biden had crashed in the polls ahead of election day based on early vote divination and other metrics that required squinting and tea leaf reading.

    144. Tgca says:

      Hey Jadon

      I checked and there is no registered domain for The Llama Report.

      Go for it!

      If that no work, let’s consider Tofu & Politics Today – TPT. Catchy, eh?

    145. Country Dick Montana says:

      Just got a note from Southwest Airlines that a flight coming up for me may have a passenger in the middle seat. Looks like load factors are increasing.

    146. NYCmike says:

      “It will always be one of the worst votes I cast, but so be it.”

      -Compare his record to Bush 41 and/or Bush 43.

      Trump will surpass them in most metrics.

      Spending they were all horrible.
      Trump will beat them on taxes, cutting regulations, foreign policy accomplishments (and avoidances) and in going after cultural issues. Trump’s loss will be most hurtful in this are!

      Also, the simple fact that Trump is getting Saudi Arabia and other Middle East countries to pay for our troops there is YUGE!

    147. Country Dick Montana says:

      “Trump will beat them on taxes, cutting regulations, foreign policy accomplishments (and avoidances) and in going after cultural issues.”

      But he is vulgar and made mean tweets. Not only that he wasn’t a “real” politician.

      Accomplishments? Bah. I hope that they put low income high density housing in every woke suburb in America.

    148. Phil says:

      Ok, Robbie, so 18 of 19 counties with perfect records for predicting the winner since 1980 are SUDDENLY no longer bell weather counties. All become non predictive during the same election?

      You really want to go there?

      Counties like that may become less predictive OVER TIME. They don’t all do it all at once and they certainly don’t go for the losing candidate by large margins….and all in the same election.

      …and it’s not just unique to the 19 counties. Top 58 counties in the US as ranked according to being predictive of the winning candidate over the last 40 years, 51 were carried by Trump. You want to poo poo that as well?

      Seriously?

      How about this one? Of the top 58 counties across the USA ranked according to

    149. Phil says:

      …the congressional digest 12% of swing counties go to the loser.

      Statistically that’s imposible.

    150. SweatyToothedMadman says:

      #151, Phil – I enjoy posts! Where I can find the list of the top 58 bellwhether counties since 1980? I would enjoy reviewing that info.

      Thanks!

    151. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      December 2, 2020 at 6:29 pm
      “It will always be one of the worst votes I cast, but so be it.”

      Compare his record to Bush 41 and/or Bush 43.

      – GHWB and GWB were both good people.

      Trump is not a good person.

      It’s not always just about policy.

    152. Gordon Allen says:

      If you believe Robbie voted for Trump,call me about my interest in the Brooklyn Bridge. I’ll give you a good price

    153. PresidentPaul! says:

      I heard that Biden is making one of blackrock’s execs Brian Deese to be yellen’s #2 person at treasury.

      Blackrock is the group that is doing the special purpose vehicles that is in charge of buying US junk bonds.

      All of these people coming into treasury already know where all the bodies are buried nothing left to learn.

      I can pretty much guarantee the Fed will be buying the US stock market during the Biden years not just bonds.

    154. Tgca says:

      154

      In your view. Millions seem to think differently though.

      I think 74M people may not agree with you or some large portion of them may not. Generally, people don’t enthusiastically support people they think are bad.

      …and I would say after it was disclosed that grandpa groper Bush is not a decent man for grabbing women. He could have been arrested and prosecuted if he were not the ex-president.

    155. PresidentPaul! says:

      ” GHWB and GWB were both good people.”

      You mean war criminals who are still on the lamb

    156. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      December 2, 2020 at 6:34 pm
      Ok, Robbie, so 18 of 19 counties with perfect records for predicting the winner since 1980 are SUDDENLY no longer bell weather counties. All become non predictive during the same election?

      You really want to go there?

      – Yes, I do because I don’t think we would have viewed them as bell weathers had Obama not been the Democrat candidate in 2008 and 2012. Obama was the true unicorn candidate in those years. He won Republican votes and won in places that temporarily forestalled the movement to Republicans.

      Had another candidate been the Democrat nominee in 2008 and 2012, many of those places would have continued their trend to the right and voted for McCain and Romney and lost their status as bell weathers sooner than this year.

      Again, the good example is Vigo County in Indiana. Terra Haute is the main city and I’m quite familiar with it. It had gone for the winner all but twice since 1892. It is in a mostly rural area that has been trending to the right for some time, but temporarily went against form to vote for Obama twice.

      Vigo County and Terra Haute are precisely the kinds of areas that now go strongly for Republican because they are rural areas. It no longer is a bell weather because it is now a solidly Republican area.

      And while Pike County in Kentucky was never viewed as a bell weather, it’s transformation over the last two decades speaks to why the traditional counties viewed as bell weather can no longer be viewed as such. That county voted for Mondale, but voted for Trump with an astonishing 79% of the vote.

      The sorting or votes from rural and urban is just so stark now that many of those traditional bell weathers just don’t work anymore.

    157. Dylan says:

      You know what is missing? The fact that the election was most definitely stolen and that Trump has not YET gone nuclear with some hammer that he still possesses on account of being the POTUS.

      Yes, he knew there was going to be fraud but totally underestimated the extent and ability to pull it off–it must be just dumbfounding to him.

      But as POTUS, surely he has the power to do “something” about it. Burn something down to make a point or set something into motion.

      I just don’t get all these fundraising texts with no coherent strategy

    158. RB says:

      Wasserman has seen enough….IA-02 goes to the GOP by 6 votes

      223-212 is the scoreboard

      Robbie-Pelosi herding cats …Mc Carthey in an strong position

    159. Robbie says:

      Gordon Allen says:
      December 2, 2020 at 7:15 pm
      If you believe Robbie voted for Trump,call me about my interest in the Brooklyn Bridge. I’ll give you a good price

      – I voted straight party. I’d still do it again even though I think Trump is genuinely bad person.

    160. PresidentPaul! says:

      GWB was much worse than a “genuinely bad person”

      Dems biggest mistake was choosing Obama someone who refused to bring him to justice.

    161. RB says:

      Ooops 222-212

    162. Robbie says:

      RB says:
      December 2, 2020 at 7:20 pm
      Wasserman has seen enough….IA-02 goes to the GOP by 6 votes

      223-212 is the scoreboard

      Robbie-Pelosi herding cats …Mc Carthey in an strong position

      – I think it’s one the wildest outcomes of 2020. Pelosi thought (as did I) that she would have an enhanced majority and be able to ram through her wish list of policy items. Instead, her last two years as Speaker are going to be miserable because AOC will pull the caucus leftward while the “moderates”, such as they are, will feel the need to peel off to preserve their 2022 chances.

      On the other hand, McCarthy was likely to face a challenge to his leadership had Republicans lost more House seats. Mark Halperin (yes, that guy), reported that McCarthy might even resign if the party suffered big losses. Instead, he’s likely to be Speaker after the 2022 elections.

      It’s a result that few professional prognosticators or even party officials on both sides saw coming.

    163. Robbie says:

      Dylan says:
      December 2, 2020 at 7:19 pm
      But as POTUS, surely he has the power to do “something” about it. Burn something down to make a point or set something into motion.

      I just don’t get all these fundraising texts with no coherent strategy

      – Well, right now it seems he’s willing to sacrifice the two GA senate seats so that would, in effect, be burning something down.

    164. Robbie says:

      PresidentPaul! says:
      December 2, 2020 at 7:18 pm
      ” GHWB and GWB were both good people.”

      You mean war criminals who are still on the lamb

      – Well, if you feel that way, I hope one day you’re in position to make a citizen’s arrest and deliver GWB to the Hauge.

    165. PresidentPaul! says:

      McCarthy would be a step up from Paul Ryan, Boehner or Newt.

    166. PresidentPaul! says:

      #167

      No it would require a real progressive or a real conservative like Rand Paul to achieve as such.

      Trump was no naive to take out the trash appointing the swamp like Gina Haspel.

    167. PresidentPaul! says:

      btw all ex-presidents have a Praetorian Guard assigned to them for life.

      Only Nixon refused such.

    168. Robbie says:

      PresidentPaul! says:
      December 2, 2020 at 7:28 pm
      McCarthy would be a step up from Paul Ryan, Boehner or Newt.

      – I could go with this. I think Boehner is underrated, but he’s definitely better than Paul Ryan and Newt.

    169. PresidentPaul! says:

      Boehner was better than Newt who was better than Ryan.

      McCarthy would be a step of from all three of them in my view

    170. PresidentPaul! says:

      These last few months could be dangerous as Trump is beginning to lash out in anger because we know demented Joe stole the US election.

    171. PresidentPaul! says:

      Pretty sure Janna Ryan was the actual Speaker of the House when Paul Ryan was there.

    172. PresidentPaul!~ says:

      Makes me happy I never got drawn into the Obama crowd….

    173. PresidentPaul! says:

      Bill Clinton on the Lolita express 25 times
      But the it was “suicide” and all the computers on the island got smashed by Hillary’s hammer

    174. Phil says:

      Robbie poo poos the swing county data I presented. All of a sudden, bingo, after 40 years they aren’t really swing counties any longer. Why, it’s magic. Swing counties become not swing counties over time – not suddenly over night in EVERY one of them. Give us a break, man.

      At the same time he has no problem glossing over the ridiculously one sided dumps in the middle of the night that took place in Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee, and the days following the election in Atlanta. No problem at all. No problem that turnout was down in every other urban Democratic city except the above mentioned centers which just conveniently wee located in swing states Biden needed to get to 270.

      Can’t wait to see Robbie’s reaction when Democrats overtake Republican leads on election night January 5th and the days following when all those votes are magically found in Fulton, Gwinnett, and De Kalb Counties.

      I wonder if Robbie will be as disinterested about it all when Trump isn’t the one on the ballot.

      My guess is no. He’ll see no evil then either.

    175. PresidentPaul! says:

      Voter Group in Georgia Has Identified More than 50,000 Illegal Votes – Enough Votes to Move Georgia to Trump Column

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/voter-group-georgia-identified-50000-illegal-votes-enough-votes-move-georgia-trump-column/

    176. PresidentPaul! says:

      If any of you ever lived in a big city in your life and moved, you’re actually still live there voting party line dem every election you just don’t know it.

    177. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      December 2, 2020 at 8:07 pm
      Robbie poo poos the swing county data I presented. All of a sudden, bingo, after 40 years they aren’t really swing counties any longer. Why, it’s magic. Swing counties become not swing counties over time – not suddenly over night in EVERY one of them. Give us a break, man.

      – What I’m saying is many haven’t really been swing counties for a while now. Take away the Obama blips and they are just counties that have been moving towards the Republicans for a while now.

    178. PresidentPaul! says:

      Zerohedge explains how the dems stole the US election for Demented Joe

      “Strange “Coincidences” That Should Deeply Bother Everyone Trying To Put The Puzzle Pieces Together”

      https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/strange-coincidences-should-deeply-bother-everyone-trying-put-puzzle-pieces-together

    179. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      December 2, 2020 at 8:07 pm
      Can’t wait to see Robbie’s reaction when Democrats overtake Republican leads on election night January 5th and the days following when all those votes are magically found in Fulton, Gwinnett, and De Kalb Counties.

      I wonder if Robbie will be as disinterested about it all when Trump isn’t the one on the ballot.

      – I’d definitely be disappointed, but I think their potential losses would have a lot more to do with Trump, effectively, burning down the party around him on his way out the door than mass fraud.

      And by the way, Trump’s 45 minute speech today that he posted on FaceBook has all of the earmarks of man who has decided to burn it all down around him. I think he wants to punish the party for his loss. He’s never cared about the party. he just used it as a vehicle to run for president.

      I would not be surprised to learn that Trump has given Sidney Powell and Lin Wood his blessing, by way of Rudy and/or Steve Bannon, to say the things they’re saying.

    180. PresidentPaul! says:

      I had an old friend tell me once out of the blue that he doesn’t believe in coincidences without explaining why he said that, but nonetheless I believe it to be mostly true.

    181. SweatyToothedMadman says:

      Phil – I enjoy your posts! Where I can find the list of the top 58 bellwether counties since 1980? I would enjoy reviewing that info. Please send a link.

      Thanks!

    182. Pitchaboy says:

      Big steal. Even dems are sensing it. But Trump supporter Robbie doesn’t. He is looking for a smoking gun.

    183. Meldrim says:

      #59, Robbie, if NC had a runoff unless the first-place finisher in the primary got 50%+1, it was a long time ago. From at least the 1990s until the mid-2010s, the winner needed only 40% to avoid a runoff; and a few years ago the threshold was reduced to only 30%. So if Lara Trump ran for the 2022 NC GOP Senate nomination in a multi-candidate field, she could win with 30%-35% and avoid a runoff. That being said, I prefer Congressman Walker.

      Also, Robbie, it is spelled “bellwether,” not “bell weather.”

      And for those who fear that Nancy Pelosi will seat the Democrat losers in IA-02 and NY-22, please keep in mind that (assuming that Tenney is certified as the winner) the only candidates who would present credentials from those districts will be the Republicans, and that the House Clerk would have to seat them unless the House votes to exclude them. When O’Neill got the House to exclude the Republican from IN-08 (Rick McIntyre) while a committee “investigated” the election, he had a huge House majority; Pelosi would need 98% of House Democrats to vote to exclude the certified winners of those two districts, and she won’t be able to get so many of them to jump off the cliff with her.

    184. Chicon says:

      187 – he is not interested in finding a smoking gun. He’s ready to rid the party of the unwashed.

    185. Robbie says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      December 2, 2020 at 8:27 pm
      Big steal. Even dems are sensing it. But Trump supporter Robbie doesn’t. He is looking for a smoking gun.

      – You were looking for a smoking gun as well, right? You said Trump needed to present his evidence of fraud before a judge in a court of law. You said if he didn’t, then he was just wasting everyone’s time.

      Well, Trump still hasn’t presented any evidence of fraud before a court of law. In fact, his real lawyers (not Rudy) have said repeatedly in court they are not alleging fraud. Even Bill Barr said he’s seen no evidence of the kind of fraud that could change the outcome (although new evidence could always arise).

      And frankly, Democrats aren’t sensing that it was stolen from Trump. This reminds me of your comments right before election day that Democrats knew Biden was dropping in the polls and was likely to lose. It just wasn’t the case.

      If Trump wants to continue this effort, well then he’s going to continue this effort. If you want to continue to back him in his effort to contest the election results, then do so. But at some point, there’s going to come a point where this effort to overturn the election is pointless and will have a serious negative impact on Georgia.

      I’m not willing to trade the two Georgia races just to soothe Trump’s bruised ego. Others may feel differently, though.

    186. PresidentPaul! says:

      https://covidtracking.com/data/charts/us-currently-hospitalized

      daily hospitalizations not slowing down.

      I’ve said before that even the most libertarian governors end up opting for lockdowns once the healthcare facilities become overrun.

      If your assigned hospital bed is laying on the ground in the waiting room or in the hallway, that’s a problem.

    187. Robbie says:

      Meldrim says:
      December 2, 2020 at 8:32 pm
      Also, Robbie, it is spelled “bellwether,” not “bell weather.”

      – Autocorrect. Sorry.

    188. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      December 2, 2020 at 8:36 pm
      187 – he is not interested in finding a smoking gun. He’s ready to rid the party of the unwashed.

      – I’m ready to get rid of the professional grifters who’ve attached themselves to Trump like barnacles on the bottom of a ship. That includes Rudy, Steve Bannon, Newt, Lou Dobbs, Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, and whomever else lines up to defend the nutty conspiracies Trump congers up between now and January 20.

    189. Sexy Sydney Powell says:

      DO NOT VOTE in the Georgia runoff. It is not a real election. Do NOT vote!!

      Oh yes baby

    190. Meldrim says:

      #184, Robbie, President Trump has spoken strongly in favor of Republicans going to vote for Perdue and Loeffler on January 5 and is planning to campaign for them in GA in the coming weeks (and already has sent Pence and Don Jr. there). And President Trump is not exactly a subtle and wily man who quietly would ask people to do things that are 180 degrees removed from his public statements. The campaign to boycott the runoff is being run by a handful of rogue idiots and a bazillion Democrats who are gleefully financing what would be ritual suicide by conservatives. For example, this billboard was paid for by a pro-Democrat PAC: https://twitter.com/CursedLavaLamp/status/1333597793739534338?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3APolitics1com&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.politics1.com%2F

    191. PresidentPaul! says:

      Better idea- just mark whichever republicans show up to the demented Joe inaugration as unfit.

      We know GWB will be there bc he has to worship the dems otherwise they might convict him.

    192. Robbie says:

      John Cardillo
      @johncardillo
      @realDonaldTrump needs to immediately publicly rebuke those acting in his name who are telling people not to vote in GA.

      Losing the Senate would be an irreparable disaster.

      – This guy has been one of Trump’s biggest defenders. Even he sees the harm Trump’s message and those claiming to speak on his behalf are doing.

    193. Sexy Sydney Powell says:

      I love Lin Wood. He’s so much better than Rudy.

      Lin makes me so horny. Oh baby Lin talk to me baby. BOYCOTT GEOGIA RUNOFF. So sexy baby. Don’t stop!

    194. Robbie says:

      Meldrim says:
      December 2, 2020 at 8:43 pm
      #184, Robbie, President Trump has spoken strongly in favor of Republicans going to vote for Perdue and Loeffler on January 5 and is planning to campaign for them in GA in the coming weeks

      – It really depends on what he says in these rallies. If it’s his usual schtick, it will be a plus for Perdue and Loeffler.

      If the rallies are grievances filled nonsense about how the presidential race was stolen from him because of Dominion voting machines and nefarious cabals of communists, then he could easily depress turnout.

    195. PresidentPaul! says:

      Problem is a lot of Trump’s voters are just Trump voters and not GOP voters.

      The dems are packing the VBM scam for the runoff already, and the GOP is damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

      Either way it’s going to hard to match presidential turnout for the runoff, and the dems will have already matched it with the VBM scam.

    196. Gordon Allen says:

      I thought Trump was generally pretty much on point today. BTW,that a final vote ” dump” occurred yesterday in NY( December?) proves beyond reasonable doubt how totally absurd and ridiculous our voting system has become.

    197. jason says:

      lot of people who traditionally vote Republican simply didn’t want Trump to win so they voted for Biden for the presidency and then Republicans in the rest of the races. ”

      Robbie Goebbels still lying.

      BS. No evidence at all of this. Trump got 95% of the vote of Rs, probably a little better than 2016.

      Trump got 47% of the vote in 2020, a full point better than he did in 2016.

      He also got about 12 million MORE votes than he did in 2016.

      The idea that Trump lost because “Republicans were tired of him” is a a blatant lie.

    198. jason says:

      I’m ready to get rid of the professional grifters”

      Translation: we don’t need the stupid working class Trump voters, we can win election with suburban elites that are much superior human beings.

    199. Pitchaboy says:

      MI Giuliani hearing pretty impressive. I think MI and WI legislatures will send their own slate.

    200. Waingro says:

      This is a headline from Trumpy Breitbart. I can’t believe people on the right are scooping up this nonsense from this grifter fraud, Wood. He must be laughing right to the bank.

      “Grift Wood: ’Maga’ Poseur Goes for Sabotage in Georgia

      Lin Wood Major Democrat Donor — For Decades

      Big Checks to Obama

      Funded Perdue Opponent

      Votes in Dem Primaries”

    201. lisab says:

      San Francisco bans smoking inside apartments; pot smoking OK

    202. Lin Wood says:

      205 – You just mad because i can last 46 minutes with Sidney Powell and you get to play with your right hand tonight.

      I’m coming Sexy Sidney! Sidney loves my Wood.

    203. Robbie says:

      “There’s no more destructive force in American politics — much less in the Republican Party or Trump movement — than Sidney Powell in front of a TV camera,” a senior administration official tells Axios.

      https://t.co/ZzDDRYHGpA?amp=1

      – This is truly an example of “you reap what you sow”. Trump mainlined clowns like Sidney Powell and now she may take to likely Senate wins and turn them into two losses.

    204. John says:

      BOOM! More cheating exposed in Georgia.

      Georgia officials tell Fox News they are investigating a Florida attorney for attempting to vote illegally for in the state’s Jan. 5 Senate runoff, after a video emerged of him stating his intent to move to Georgia temporarily and encouraging others to use his relative’s Georgia address to do the same.

      https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-attorney-under-investigation-moving-to-georgia-to-vote

    205. Cash Cow TM says:

      from one of the comments in the Zerohedge article where the poster listed a bunch of issues:

      “17) Statistical anomalies. In Georgia, Biden overtook Trump with 89 percent of the votes counted. For the next 53 batches of votes counted, Biden led Trump by the same exact 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin in every single batch.”

      Is this TRUE?

    206. lisab says:

      cash cow,

      the election was stolen

      accept it

      now be a good little calf and vote for the rino candidate so that they can have the illusion of choice

    207. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Wes,SoHope,JeffP etc.
      It’s over in the NC Supreme Court Chief Justice race with Newby(R) the winner by about 400 votes.

      ” NCSC – All counties complete.
      Newby wins recount by 401 votes (was ahead by 406 in original count and almost 500 at one point).

      The recount showed Beasley gaining 30 votes in the recount in Forsyth County, while Newby’s total dropped by 26 votes. The result was a net 56-vote swing to Beasley, who had a substantial lead in Forsyth even before the recount.”

      https://www.wbtv.com/2020/12/02/newby-leads-by-votes-race-nc-supreme-court-chief-justice-after-recount/

    208. Bitterlaw says:

      So every Republican politician not named Donald Trump is a RINO? Got it.

    209. Gordon Allen says:

      Arizona subsample (100) showed 3 switches to Biden? Larger audit authorized? HMM. Arizona??

    210. Wobbles says:

      The election is being stolen but let me write 100 posts about Sidney Powell as a distraction.

    211. jason says:

      Is this evidence?

      Nevada video.

      “We have twenty-five $25 dollar gift cards to raffle off so that’s a lot of money in cash here. We have also four $100 gift cards to give away, so again you want to make sure to get out here and vote. And then, we have four $250 gift cards to raffle. And our grand prize is going to be a $500 Visa gift card to the person or native voters who came out early this week early voting,” Sam said, adding that voters need only send a photo of themselves at the polling place to enter.

      Sam stood beside two elderly people who were holding free T-shirts they received for coming out to vote. She added that more shirts were still available, in addition to keychains, bracelets, necklaces, earrings, and stickers.

      Sam promoted swag in another video in front of a Biden-Harris bus and wearing a Biden-Harris mask.

      When they announced the winners of the raffle, Sam thanked people for helping Joe Biden win, saying we couldn’t have done it without you.

      “This is exciting guys. We’ll give out over $2,000 in gift cards, so this is pretty cool,” Sam said, while pulling paper slips with names of the winners from a pot and clipping names to the gift cards.

      “Congratulations to all the winners,” Sam said after drawing the name for the winner of the $500 gift card. “Thank you for using your voice, which was your vote. Obviously, it had a tremendous impact on the way Nevada ended up as far as the electoral votes and helped get Biden into office. We couldn’t have done it without you.”

    212. Tgca says:

      214

      EXACTLY!

      Finally! The Philly Metrosexual gets it.

      His friends and neighbors support election theft.

    213. Gordon Allen says:

      Bitterlaw. For awhile you had me convinced as I said,to the point where I’d contribute to your campaign. You’re unconvincing me by the moment. Your reflexive hostility to Trump is indeed off putting,to the extent you’re nonchalant abouta gross and blatant theft of a presidential election

    214. Gordon Allen says:

      Simply because the victim is named Trump. It could easily be any Republican if this abuse is not cured or challenged. Looks like I’ll be saving money in the future on political campaigns,which in retirement is always good.

    215. WizardofCozz says:

      Jason that’s not evidence. Just ask evidence authority and moral black hole Robbie and they’ll tell you!

    216. Bitterlaw says:

      I have said repeatedly that the election is being stolen and Trump should exhaust every legal and legislative remedy to stop the theft. If that is not enough for the RINO hunters, so be it.

    217. Hugh says:

      215. This is a good read. Also it looks like the fox expert who called az immediately was in on the fix. This is my view. Let’s see if fox ever apologizes to its former base. Me my family and friends have all banned fox in it’s entirety.

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/investigation-100-ballot-sample-arizona-finds-3-ballots-deemed-fraudulent-favor-joe-biden-larger-audit-granted/

    218. jason says:

      “Mike Braun says half the country wants Trump fraud claims investigated, rips media’s dismissal”

      We need more Mike Brauns, fewer gutless wonders like Brian Kemp.”

    219. jason says:

      Simply because the victim is named Trump. It could easily be any Republican if this abuse is not cured or challenged. Looks like I’ll be saving money in the future on political campaigns,which in retirement is always good.”

      I am saving a lot of money myself. The contributions to Loeffler and Perdue were officially my last.

      If Bitter runs, I will contribute, but after decades of contributing to the GOP, that’s it.

      I was willing to pay to avoid socialism. To slow it down a little, no.

    220. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Here are the first two polls of the GA Senate run-offs courtesy of Survey USA:

      NOV 30-DEC 2, 2020
      C+
      Rasmussen Reports/Pulse Opinion Research
      1,500 LV Approve
      50%
      48%
      Disapprove Approve +2
      U.S. Senate Ga.
      NOV 27-30, 2020
      A
      SurveyUSA
      583 LV Warnock
      52%
      45%
      Loeffler Warnock +7
      U.S. Senate Ga.
      NOV 27-30, 2020
      A
      SurveyUSA
      583 LV Ossoff
      50%
      48%
      Perdue Ossoff +2

    221. jason says:

      Predictit not buying those GA polls, pretty much unchanged.

    222. jason says:

      But run like you are behind is not a bad strategy for Loeffler and Perdue.

    223. Wes says:

      How did SUSA do in its polls during the regular elections?

    224. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #229
      Survey USA did two polls of the Perdue/Ossoff race and each one had Perdue +3.
      Very little reaction in PredictIt. Someone on PredictIt commented that the % of White poll respondents is ridiculously low.
      This poll was taken over Thanksgiving weekend.

    225. Gordon Allen says:

      Bitter. Ok. What got me was you were more concerned about the PHILADELPHIA EAGLES!! than the Trump effort. I’ve hated the Eagles since I was a Giant’s fan in the 60’s through Bill Parcell’s time. When we moved to Cape Cod and became Patriots fans the Eagles deprived us of a deserved Super Bowl.
      How anyone could put the Eagles ahead of election integrity is beyond me!!

    226. PresidentPaul! says:

      Tom Cotton: House Democrats Want National Mandate for Vote-by-Mail, Ballot Harvesting, Ending Photo-ID for Voting

      https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2020/12/03/tom-cotton-house-democrats-want-national-mandate-for-vote-by-mail-ballot-harvesting-ending-photo-id-for-voting/

    227. Robbie says:

      Kyle Kondik
      @kkondik
      SurveyUSA has Ossoff 50-48 & Warnock 52-45 in the GA-SEN runoffs this morning. FWIW, same pollster had Biden +2 and Perdue +3 in mid-October (pretty decent finding compared to results)

      – Congrats to Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, and the other assorted grifters who have convinced Republicans to avoid winning two important Senate races.

      Clearly, you aren’t a real conservative if you’re not willing to make two Democrats from Georgia the winners.

      And let’s be honest. There are several in this forum who want the Democrats to win as a way of punishing the Republican Party for not being sycophantic enough for Trump.

      Personally, I’m dubious of SUSA polls generally and these results as well. I won’t discount this kind of outcome though. The data included in this poll shows respondents favored Biden by four points on election day.

    228. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      December 3, 2020 at 6:00 am
      So every Republican politician not named Donald Trump is a RINO? Got it.

      – Now, you’re getting it!

    229. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      December 3, 2020 at 7:43 am
      Is this evidence?

      – Roger Stone says North Korea smuggled in fake votes through a harbor in Maine. I think Roger is on to something. Hopefully, you can add this to your kraken evidence that Trump really won and should hold an alternative swearing-in ceremony on January 20, 2021.

    230. Robbie says:

      Wes says:
      December 3, 2020 at 9:50 am
      How did SUSA do in its polls during the regular elections?

      – Not too badly, actually. I’m generally not a fan of SUSA, though. They blew so many races in Kentucky over the last few years.

    231. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      December 3, 2020 at 9:43 am
      But run like you are behind is not a bad strategy for Loeffler and Perdue.

      – You and team Kraken opened Pandora’s box. Team Kraken has caused plenty of Republicans to think there’s no reason to vote and it’s energized Democrats. Good job.

    232. Phil says:

      Bring back the real Republicans like Paul Ryan.

      That should rally the troops.

      LOL

    233. JeffP says:

      Bottom line…

      1. DC Democratic operation funded by Mr. Facebook worked in swing states to circumvent mail in ballot laws at local levels with Democratic operatives and leadership like Wayne County MI, Milwaukee, Fulton, Maricopa, etc…

      2. Dominion voting machines that have USB drives and vote altering software.

      Best testimony last night was the lady from Wayne County that was told to add the dates on mail in ballots beginning in September. When asked how many ballots the her office operation changed..over 100K.

    234. Chicon says:

      233 – Robbie is “dubious” of the pollster, but uses it as evidence that his enemies are winning.

      “There are several in this forum who want the Democrats to win as a way of punishing the Republican Party for not being sycophantic enough for Trump.”

      Like you were in 2016. It was okay then, though…..

    235. Sexy Sydney Powell says:

      “– Congrats to Sidney Powell, Lin Wood, and the other assorted geniuses who have convinced Republicans to avoid winning two important Senate races.”

      THANK YOU! It’s important that the GA races be boycotted. So important baby, oh yes oh yes boycott baby don’t stop. OH YES

    236. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      December 3, 2020 at 11:09 am
      233 – Robbie is “dubious” of the pollster, but uses it as evidence that his enemies are winning.

      – I’m dubious of SUSA because I’ve been dubious of SUSA polling for the better part of six or seven years. They did such a bad job in Kentucky, the Courier Journal newspaper in Louisville put out an editorial saying why they stopped using the firm.

      You, on the other hand, give every appearance of rooting for Republicans to lose in Georgia because you’re mad Trump lost and want the party punished.

    237. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      December 3, 2020 at 10:58 am
      Bring back the real Republicans like Paul Ryan.

      That should rally the troops.

      – Who’s arguing that? No one. It’s a total non sequitur.

      No one wants to return to Paul Ryan or his brand of party politics. He was the worst Speaker in the last century.

    238. Chicon says:

      242 – wrong again, Chief. What I have suggested is that you small tent, elitist types help give voice to the concerns of the large, unwashed group of Trump voters who believe the election was stolen if you want them to vote in the GA runoffs.

      Your attitude here is the exact opposite of this advice. You’ve been crapping on them for five years, now you’re desperate for their help; and unsurprisingly some are telling you to pound sand.

    239. Phil says:

      I would imagine if you secretly polled the inside the beltway Republican consultants as well as Republicans in congress like Thune, Sasse, Alexander…just to name a few, they are fine with the Ryans and Romneys.. They can’t say so publicly but seriously, they are just fine being the Washington Generals vs the Globetrotters. They are fine as long as they remain part of the system and are ok receiving whatever scraps the Democrats want to give them.

      Yeah, they are that out of touch with the rank in file Republican voter. It’s a shame there is no fight in Republicans once they get in office. Thune is a great example. Corker Cornyn…I could go on and on, but why bother?

    240. Bitterlaw says:

      GA – It must tear at your soul that the Patriots were robbed of their 7th Lombardi trophy.

      Elections come and go. The Eagles have 1 Super Bowl victory.

    241. Wes says:

      I suspect Phil is applying the Bob Michel-Hugh Scott mentality to modern-day Republicans. These aren’t the guys who come of age in a party emasculated by the New Deal and Great Society but rather ones who matured politically after the Gingrich Revolution. They aren’t content with whatever scraps Dems throw their way.

      Seriously, Phil, if modern Republicans wanted to be like their counterparts from 1932 to 1992, then we’d see that mentality reflected in the congressional margins.

    242. Rudy G. says:

      Holy Cow! Did you see my STAR witness today? I am absolutely the best lawyah ever. She went off-script, but it was really some incredible testimony!

      I can make you a star. Post here if you want to be my next witness. Just promise you’ll stick to my script. It’s a good script.

      4 more years, my dears!

    243. Jeffrey Shaw says:

      #235- That’s nothing. Kim Jong Un says thousands of ballots smuggled into U.S. in Dennis Rodman’s shorts.

    244. jason says:

      @cnn VP Cynthia Hudson ” “Cubans are going to vote for Trump, and that’s terrifying. I have to say, there’s a population that’s very attracted to bullies.”

    245. Chicon says:

      249 – rumor has that there’s very little room in Rodman’s shorts…..

    246. Wes says:

      Hmm. Didn’t Obama carry the Cuban vote in 2008 at least? I challenge anyone to find me a bigger political bully than Obama. Well, maybe Mike Madigan is worse.

    247. Chicon says:

      250 – a perfect description of Robbie’s relationships with the MSM and the Democrat party.

    248. jason says:

      You and team Kraken opened Pandora’s box. Team Kraken has caused plenty of Republicans to think there’s no reason to vote and it’s energized Democrats. Good job.”

      Sorry, that dog won’t hunt.

      But maybe, just maybe, it wasn’t such a good spineless turds like the GA SOS and Brian Kemp are doing their best to disenfranchise Trump voters.

      Anybody who thinks Trump really lost GA by 10k votes is a moron.

      The people who voted for Trump know that.

      If Rs really want to win those seats, they better do their best to combat the fraud.

      But I am prescient. I said that if Rs lost the runoffs, Robbie Goebbels would be in the unfortunate position of either acknowledging that the Trump voters ARE the base of the R party or that socialism has really arrived.

      Blaming Sidney Powell, who probably has 0.0000001% influence on how people vote in GA, if that much, is intellectual dishonesty.

    249. jaichind says:

      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-03/biden-s-new-white-house-team-delights-his-fans-on-wall-street

      Biden’s White House Team Delights His Fans on Wall Street

      I wonder what Bernie Sanders AOC and their cronies have to say about this

    250. jason says:

      What I have suggested is that you small tent, elitist types help give voice to the concerns of the large, unwashed group of Trump voters who believe the election was stolen if you want them to vote in the GA runoffs.

      Your attitude here is the exact opposite of this advice. You’ve been crapping on them for five years, now you’re desperate for their help; and unsurprisingly some are telling you to pound sand.”

      Yep, that is it in a nutshell.

    251. jason says:

      Don’t believe anything you read on Bloomberg.

    252. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      December 3, 2020 at 12:11 pm
      I would imagine if you secretly polled the inside the beltway Republican consultants as well as Republicans in congress like Thune, Sasse, Alexander…just to name a few, they are fine with the Ryans and Romneys..

      – Thy may be fine with them, but these guys also know what the voters want. That’s why they keep winning.

      And considering the things may Republican office holders said about Romney/Ryan in 2012, I doubt they’re itching to see those two play key roles.

      I would have no problem with Ryan back in the House, but I would if he wanted to be Speaker again.

    253. jason says:

      Robbie Goebbels might be coming to the realization his small tent of suburban elites might not be enough to win in GA.

      They might need the votes of those blue collar working class inferior types he despises and hates so much.

      So he wants to blame Sidney Powell, whose influence in GA is zero.

    254. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      December 3, 2020 at 12:45 pm
      You and team Kraken opened Pandora’s box. Team Kraken has caused plenty of Republicans to think there’s no reason to vote and it’s energized Democrats. Good job.”

      Sorry, that dog won’t hunt.

      But maybe, just maybe, it wasn’t such a good spineless turds like the GA SOS and Brian Kemp are doing their best to disenfranchise Trump voters.

      – It shows how far down the Trump hole you’ve gone that you’ve now decided to parrot Trump’s attacks on Brian Kemp because he won’t overturn the election results and declare Trump the winner.

      I’ve got some bad news for you. Trump lost and he lost because he spent the last four years pissing people off and causing the country to have the highest turnout ever.

      People could not wait to get out and vote against Trump. And right now, the margin across the country is more than 6 million votes. Trump was a clown who governed as a clown and ran for re-election as a clown.

      His behavior caught up with him. Maybe next time, you’ll see that coming.

    255. jason says:

      Poll 10000 Rs in GA and ask them if they care about what Sidney Powell says regarding their vote.

      Half will say no, the other half will say WTF is Sidney Powell.

      And btw, Powell never said not to vote for Loeffler or Perdue, she said people in GA should demand election integrity before they voted.

      And spineless turds like Brian Kemp and the GA SOS should be the first ones out there demanding election integrity.

    256. Wes says:

      Ryan became Speaker because the Freedom Caucus couldn’t quit bitching about John Boehner. The FC even tried to overthrow Boehner in January 2015 after Boehner led the party to a major victory. Then they hypocrites started crying because the then-Speaker retaliated by stripping some of them of their committee assignments.

      Boehner finally got tired of these bitchboys and resigned. Ryan was the only acceptable replacement and took over.

      Maybe if the FC weren’t a bunch of whiny bitches, Ryan would never have become Speaker.

    257. jason says:

      People could not wait to get out and vote against Trump.”

      Zzzzzzz…

      Robbie Goebbels still lying.

      BS. No evidence at all of this. Trump got 95% of the vote of Rs, probably a little better than 2016.

      Trump got 47% of the vote in 2020, a full point better than he did in 2016.

      He also got about 12 million MORE votes than he did in 2016.

      The idea that Trump lost because “Republicans were tired of him” is a a blatant lie.

      42k votes in 3 states is all that stands between Trump winning.

      The fact you don’t think fraud is at least possible, if not probable, shows what an amoral scumbag you are.

    258. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      December 3, 2020 at 12:51 pm
      So he wants to blame Sidney Powell, whose influence in GA is zero.

      – Oh, really? Did you see the crowd that psycho attracted yesterday at her “Stop the Steal” rally in Georgia. It was the largest non-Trump rally in the state this year. It was a freak show and she had the crowd chanting “Lock him up” at Brian Kemp.

      Even better, that psycho signed a letter with the great General Michael Flynn calling for Trump to declare martial law and order a re-vote across the country. Do you support that since you believe the election was stolen?

      I learned in 2017, when your boy good ole Roy lost an unlosable race, not to ignore the power of Steve Bannon’s band of wackos. He’s had Sidney Powell on his “War Room” show repeatedly and he’s talked on air with her about things she later goes on to say in her insane legal filings. And by the way, who is it that’s got Trump sayin all of this crazy crap about the election results? Rudy and Steve Bannon.

      She’s absolutely having an effect. That’s why Trump’s campaign team, along with Newt and others, have turned their fire on Sidney kraken Powell.

    259. Robbie says:

      Wes says:
      December 3, 2020 at 12:55 pm
      Ryan became Speaker because the Freedom Caucus couldn’t quit bitching about John Boehner. The FC even tried to overthrow Boehner in January 2015 after Boehner led the party to a major victory. Then they hypocrites started crying because the then-Speaker retaliated by stripping some of them of their committee assignments.

      Boehner finally got tired of these bitchboys and resigned. Ryan was the only acceptable replacement and took over.

      Maybe if the FC weren’t a bunch of whiny bitches, Ryan would never have become Speaker.

      – I agree with everything you wrote, but there’s more than a few in this forum who think the FC are the great group of people ever.

      As for Ryan, he’s a fine guy. He wasn’t very good as Speaker, though. Even when I agree with him (quite often), I found him unpersuasive. I think Boehner was underrated as Speaker and would have been interested to see how he handled candidate and president Trump.

    260. Phil says:

      No problem with Ryan back in the House?

      Yeah 218 Ryans in the House is exactly what we need.

      So, let’s go over what we learned from Robbie last night. The 18 out of 19 bellwether counties across the nation that have voted for EVERY presidential winner for the last 40 years and that Trump carried overwhelmingly suddenly Nope, all of a sudden they aren’t bellwethers any longer. Suddenly, they aren’t indicative of anything. Presto. Just like that.

      There was no hanky panky that went on in Fulton, Gwinnett, and DeKalb County in the week of counting after Nov 3rd.,,,just like the counts in Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee, and were nothing to see either.

      Also, if it happens again in the days following January 5th Robbie will be “disappointed” but it won’t be fraud it will simply be Trump’s fault.

    261. Chicon says:

      263 – do you mean to say that among 350M people, there are more than two factions? Astonishing.

      If only everyone just did what the cool kids tell them to do…..

    262. NYCmike says:

      Robbie would have surrendered to Japan after MacArthur escaped the Philippines.

    263. Wes says:

      To be fair, Phil, bellwethers are only bellwethers till they’re not. Missouri was the bellwether of the 20th Century, voting for the losing presidential candidate only once between 1900 and 1996. Since 2000, the Show Me State has voted GOP each time despite an even split on the presidential level between the two parties.

      Here in NC, New Hanover County has been our bellwether since 1972. This year, although Trump and Tillis won the state, Biden and Cunningham edged them in New Hanover.

      I understand what you’re saying about the bellwether counties across the nation, but they’re an anecdotal reason for claiming fraud. A more substantial indicator is the difference between recorded voters and ballots in Michigan.

    264. jason says:

      Here is what Kemp SHOULD have done, IF he wanted the GOP to be united in the runoffs.

      He should have demanded the dishonest Never Trumper GA SOS conduct a REAL recount, not the sham recount that was done.

      If the GA SOS refused to do the right thing, Kemp should have supported Loeffler and Perdue in calling for the SOS to resign.

      Then he should NOT have certified any results until all the fraud allegations have been resolved.

      Instead, he did none of these things. He chose to disenfranchise millions of Trump voters instead. That is why I call him a spineless turd.

    265. jason says:

      Even better, that psycho signed a letter with the great General Michael Flynn calling for Trump to declare martial law and order a re-vote across the country. Do you support that since you believe the election was stolen?”

      Who cares? That won’t change any votes or affect the election in GA.

      You latch on to little details and MSM quotes while ignoring the 800-lb gorilla in the room.

      AZ – 10 k votes
      GA – 12 k votes
      WI – 20k votes
      NV – 30 k votes
      PA – 80 k votes

      The election was stolen in these states. Nobody cares if private citizen Flynn wants martial law or not, he is not even in any kind of office.

    266. NYCmike says:

      https://reformclub.blogspot.com/2020/12/elections-in-puerto-rico-and-other-us.html

      -I am mixed on the question of statehood. I don’t automatically assume that will add 2 Dem Senators.

      I also don’t know if Puerto Ricans WANT to become a state.

    267. Chicon says:

      272 – But if those wacky, unwashed righties say those things, how will we ever get invited to any of the really good cocktail parties in DC. It is so embarrassing…..

    268. mnw says:

      NYC

      PR has voted on statehood several times previously. “Commonwealth Status” has heretofore received a plurality, beating both “statehood” & “independence.” But “statehood” keeps gaining.

      Congress has made it clear in the past that statehood is theirs for the asking.

      I DO assume PR would elect 2 DEM senators.

    269. Phil says:

      Wes, I get what you’re saying about bellwethers not being bellwether’s forever. I have no problem with that. It’s true. However for the 18 out of 19 national bellwether counties to suddenly all at the same time go with the loser when it hasn’t happened in 40 years is pretty far fetched. I could see a handful but all of them at one time? Then there is the Trump margin in each of these swing counties – average of 15 points. Statistically that can’t happen. New Hanover was at least close and it wasn’t one of the 18 with a perfect record over 40 years. Again, 18 0ut of 19 going overwelmingly for the “loser”? No way.

      I have another problem. The turnout was down in all other urban Democratic counties across the country…but it was up substantially in Milwaukee, Philly, Detroit and Fulton County? Sorry, that’s just a little too convenient.

      Robbie is more than happy to poo poo all this. I have a real problem with that.

    270. NYCmike says:

      Not sure how Robbie can defend Kemp.

      The margin between the 2 candidates was small enough to warrant a complete and thorough recount, canvassing, auditing, especially with all of the shenanigans with leaking water pipes……..and I haven’t even mentioned the VBM b*llsh*t yet.

    271. SweatyToothedMadman says:

      Phil, I have asked you repeatedly for the list of these bellwether counties.

      Kindly comply with my request.

    272. Pitchaboy says:

      The statistical probability that 18/19 bellwethers crashed in one election is …… As SloJo would say,”COME ON MAN”.

    273. Gordon Allen says:

      GP has an article claiming to be a copy representing the filing,in part, that the Trump team has given state legislators on Dominion Voting system. The affidavits quoted,and the sources,sure should open some minds as to the possibility everything said about Dominion might be true. I have obviously no idea of the accuracy of the alleged copy,but on its face seems disturbing to say the least. One wonders how they sold this system in the first place.

    274. Meldrim says:

      In 158, Bunu wrote:

      “You mean war criminals who are still on the lamb”

      Bunu, in that sentence, you conflated the spelling of a word with that of one of its homophones. I believe that you meant to write “ewe.” It makes sense to talk about ewes and lambs given all that talk about bellwethers and about how Pelosi might ram through the losers in IA-02 and NY-22 ….

    275. Wes says:

      Cheri Beasley must think this is Washington State rather than North Carolina. She has requested a second recount:

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.citizen-times.com/amp/3808875001

    276. lisab says:

      the ga testimony today is not good

      government expert: the dominion servers are not connected to the internet

      poll person: if there was a problem on election day we would just call up dominion and they would fix the machine online

    277. SweatyToothedMadman says:

      lisab, not good for whom? Trump or Biden?

    278. lisab says:

      not good in the sense of free and fair open elections, the machines are stalin’s dream machines if you want to manipulate votes it seems

      however, i don’t think anything will come of it

      too many establishment republicans hate trump. they would much rather have more wars, open borders, outsourcing etc. even th “green new deal” means billions in new spending for their stock portfolios. the problem with signing a contract for billions to build a wall is that eventually you actually have to have a wall

      but if you get a contract to make jet fuel out of recycled cardboard … you can do it … but you just say well it costs 4568 per gallon so we never went full production, thanks for the funding

      1.) step one: get recycled cardboard
      2.) add jet fuel you purchased from saudi arabia
      3.) strain out the cardboard … etc.

    279. lisab says:

      the one funny thing is though

      the ga republicans ARE concerned that the two ga senate elections will be stolen

      for the november election they are all, “we support trump pursuing all his legal options … we won’t help at all … but we support his legal options as long as we don’t have to do anything … but ummmmmmmmmm …

      the machines will be ok for january won’t they?”

    280. lisab says:

      the machines will be ok for january won’t they?”
      ——————–

      that has come up MULTIPLE times

    281. lisab says:

      i think the only way the establishment republicans will get upset is if they lose the two georgia senate seats AND the dems make huge changes to government

      which i don’t think will happen

      too obvious … better to have a few changes in biden’s first term … open the borders … green new deal … paris accords … iran deal … chums with china

      and let the really big changes happen under harris

    282. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      December 3, 2020 at 1:20 pm
      Robbie would have surrendered to Japan after MacArthur escaped the Philippines.

      – Smart. Really smart.

    283. lisab says:

      oy vey … GA uses special locks to secure ballot bags … these locks are made to obviously break if tampered with and are specially numbered and must be witnessed … it is procedure

      they did not bother using them … they just threw them in the back of a car and drove them without witnesses

      the election supervisor refused to use them

    284. SweatyToothedMadman says:

      lisab, your explanations are obtuse. I posed a clear, concise question.

      Kindly provide a clear, concise answer: does today’s Georgia’s hearing assist Trump chances for re-election.

    285. lisab says:

      i told you …

      “however, i don’t think anything will come of it”

    286. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      December 3, 2020 at 1:07 pm
      No problem with Ryan back in the House?

      Yeah 218 Ryans in the House is exactly what we need.

      So, let’s go over what we learned from Robbie last night. The 18 out of 19 bellwether counties across the nation that have voted for EVERY presidential winner for the last 40 years and that Trump carried overwhelmingly suddenly Nope, all of a sudden they aren’t bellwethers any longer. Suddenly, they aren’t indicative of anything. Presto. Just like that.

      – First, I’d be fine if Ryan was still in the House because he’d be just one of 435 members.

      Second, bellwethers, as Wes noted, are bellwethers until they aren’t. Had Obama not been a unicorn candidate in 2008 and 2012, those bellwethers likely would have gone for the Republicans because those areas have been trending to the right for 40 years.

      I go back to Vigo County in Indiana because it had been the bellwether of bellwethers. But if you take out Obama’s fluky 2008 and 2012, that county has been voting for Republicans since 2000. That’s twenty years. That’s quite a long time and I would suspect it that trend will continue for years to come.

    287. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      December 3, 2020 at 1:46 pm
      Not sure how Robbie can defend Kemp.

      The margin between the 2 candidates was small enough to warrant a complete and thorough recount, canvassing, auditing, especially with all of the shenanigans with leaking water pipes……..and I haven’t even mentioned the VBM b*llsh*t yet.

      – Because Trump lost, nothing that was done was ever going to be good enough for you.

      If Kemp had done everything you had wanted, you would have moved the goalposts and demanded more.

      You’re convinced the election was stolen so nothing is going to make you or the others who think as you do happy.

    288. lisab says:

      now a witness is explaining how she was denied a vote because someone voted for her

      and the sos of georgia blew her off

      even though she submitted an open records request

    289. Robbie says:

      Pitchaboy says:
      December 3, 2020 at 2:18 pm
      The statistical probability that 18/19 bellwethers crashed in one election is …… As SloJo would say,”COME ON MAN”.

      – It’s really not that improbable at all. These counties were, by in large, the types of places that have moved strongly towards Republicans since 2000, especially since 2010. That they almost all went against Biden in 2020 is more about how the electorate has changed since 1980 than fraud.

      Biden did terribly outside the urban and suburban areas.

    290. Cash Cow TM says:

      “6. Missing votes. In Delaware County, Pennsylvania, 50,000 votes held on 47 USB cards are missing”

      https://spectator.us/reasons-why-the-2020-presidential-election-is-deeply-puzzling/

    291. lisab says:

      “6. Missing votes. In Delaware County, Pennsylvania, 50,000 votes held on 47 USB cards are missing”
      ——————–
      comrade cow,

      you are only concerned because trump lost

      you are a well known trump supporter

      so what if 50,000 votes are missing? 🙂

    292. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      December 3, 2020 at 1:41 pm
      Robbie is more than happy to poo poo all this. I have a real problem with that.

      – Is it really a surprise turnout was highest in the places that were microtargeted by the two campaigns?

      If we want to talk about statistical anomalies, then shouldn’t Susan Collins’ race be viewed with skepticism? She won by 10 points when every poll showed her losing and she ran well, well ahead of Trump. Clearly, I don’t think any funny business took place in Maine, but the statistical anomaly of her performance is wild, but due to her great candidate skills.

      In the aftermath of 2004, Democrats came up with all sorts of evidence they thought showed statistical anomalies in the voting patterns in Florida and Ohio. They were just numbers, though. And as a famous person once said, there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.

      If Trump got dinged by VBM, then he and his team should have been filing cases well ahead of the election when it might have mattered.

    293. Cash Cow TM says:

      SweatyToothedMadman says:
      December 3, 2020 at 1:51 pm
      Phil, I have asked you repeatedly for the list of these bellwether counties.

      Kindly comply with my request.

      *******************************************
      Google search: (which shows 16 counties…)

      In 2020:
      Bremer County, Iowa, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[4] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.

      Essex County, Vermont, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[4] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.

      Hidalgo County, New Mexico, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[3] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1968.

      Marquette County, Wisconsin, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[4] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.

      Juneau County, Wisconsin, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[3] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1960.

      Ottawa County, Ohio, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[3] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1960.

      Richland County, Wisconsin, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[4] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.

      Sawyer County, Wisconsin, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[3] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1960.

      Shiawassee County, Michigan, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[4] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.

      Valencia County, New Mexico, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden,[3] losing what was, at the time, the longest streak of correct electoral predictions, running all the way from 1952 until 2016.[8] As such, this was the county’s first time backing a losing candidate since 1948.

      Van Buren County, Michigan, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[4] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.

      Vigo County, Indiana, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[3] This broke its streak of correct predictions, which dated back to 1956 and was second only to that of Valencia County, New Mexico.[8] As such, this was the county’s first time backing a losing candidate since 1952.

      Warren County, Illinois, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[4] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.

      Washington County, Maine, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[4] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.

      Westmoreland County, Virginia, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[3] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1960.

      Wood County, Ohio, voted for Donald Trump over Joe Biden.[9] This was the first time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.[citation needed] Considered a bellwether for the state of Ohio, it features both Republican-leaning rural culture and a Democratic-leaning university of about 20,000 students (as of 2020).[6]

    294. Wes says:

      SUSA is distancing itself from its own poll:

      “SurveyUSA urges consumers of this research to reflect on how unfamiliar the footing is for anyone attempting to measure what is happening in Georgia as Bulldogs hang Christmas lights during a Pandemic and the Republican President is at war with the Republican Governor and the state’s Republican Secretary of State. It is possible that Democrats capture both Senate seats, and Chuck Schumer dances a jig, but it is equally possible Democrats flip neither or just 1 of the seats, in which case Biden inherits a divided, not united legislative branch.”

      I guess herding with the crowd that declared “Family Values” Cal to be NC Senator-elect after Zippergate broke burned them.

    295. Cash Cow TM says:

      Deviations in two elections
      The following counties have deviated from the winner of the Electoral College in two elections since 1980:

      [Partial list showing these 55 ADDITIONAL counties got it wrong in vote for president one OTHER time since 1980 AND in 2020 when they voted for Trump, but Biden won POTUS.]

      Allamakee County, Iowa, in 1992 and 2020.[4]
      Benzie County, Michigan, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Brewster County, Texas, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Bureau County, Illinois, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Calhoun County, Michigan, in 2000 and 2020.[4]
      Calhoun County, South Carolina, in 1980 and 2020.[4]
      Cascade County, Montana, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Cass County, Michigan, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Chaffee County, Colorado, in 2008 and 2020.[4]
      Coles County, Illinois, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Colleton County, South Carolina, in 1980 and 2020.[4]
      Columbia County, Wisconsin, in 2000 and 2020.[4]
      Coös County, New Hampshire, in 2004 and 2020.[3]
      Cayuga County, New York, in 2000 and 2020.[4]
      Delaware County, Indiana, in 1992 and 2020.[4]
      Elk County, Pennsylvania, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Essex County, Virginia, in 1992 and 2020.[4]
      Gladwin County, Michigan, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Hill County, Montana, in 1988 and 2020.[4]
      Houston County, Minnesota, in 1992 and 2020.[4]
      Jefferson County, Iowa, in 2004 and 2020.[4]
      Jo Daviess County, Illinois, in 1992 and 2020.[4]
      Kankakee County, Illinois, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Lenawee County, Michigan, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Lincoln County, Wisconsin, in 1988 and 2020.[4]
      Luna County, New Mexico, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Manistee County, Michigan, in 2000 and 2020.[4]
      Marshall County, Iowa, in 1988 and 2020.[4]
      Marshall County, South Dakota, in 1988 and 2020.[4]
      Mason County, Illinois, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      McDonough County, Illinois, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Menominee County, Michigan, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Monroe County, Michigan, in 2000 and 2020.[4]
      Monroe County, Wisconsin, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Oconto County, Wisconsin, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Oneida County, Wisconsin, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Penobscot County, Maine, in 2004 and 2020.[4]
      Porter County, Indiana, in 1992 and 2020.[4]
      Presque Isle County, Michigan, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Racine County, Wisconsin, in 1988 and 2020.[4]
      Ransom County, North Dakota, in 1988 and 2020.[4]
      Sandusky County, Ohio, in 1992 and 2020.[4]
      Sargent County, North Dakota, in 1988 and 2020.[3]
      Schuyler County, Illinois, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Spencer County, Indiana, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Stark County, Ohio, in 2004 and 2020.[4]
      Starke County, Indiana, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Teton County, Wyoming, in 2004 and 2020.[4]
      Traverse County, Minnesota, in 1988 and 2020.[4]
      Tuscarawas County, Ohio, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Union County, Iowa, in 1988 and 2020.[4]
      Val Verde County, Texas, in 2016 and 2020.[3]
      Vanderburgh County, Indiana, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Watonwan County, Minnesota, in 2012 and 2020.[4]
      Winnebago County, Wisconsin, in 1992 and 2020.[4]

    296. SweatyToothedMadman says:

      CASH COW RULES!!! Thank you, Cow!

      You are udderly fantastic! My next glass of milk and steak will be consumed in your honor!

      In moo we trust…

    297. Cash Cow TM says:

      How many counties in the U.S. can STILL holds claim to voting for EVERY POTUS WINNER FROM 1980 THRU 2020?

      Answer: 1
      ****************************************
      The following county is only county to have voted for the winner of the Electoral College in every election since 1980:

      Clallam County, Washington.[2] It last voted for a losing candidate in 1976.

    298. Pitchaboy says:

      Mr. Cow, go moo somewhere else. Robbie has a perfect explanation. All trends were wiped out by 4 cities getting super excited about SloJo that 120% turnout happened. I am in the process of drawing up legal papers to sell a bridge to Robbie

    299. Cash Cow TM says:

      How many bellwether counties bit the dust in the following elections?

      “Deviations in one election

      The following counties have deviated from the winner of the Electoral College in one election

      1988–2 counties

      Blaine County, Montana, voted for Michael Dukakis over George H. W. Bush.[3] This is the only time it backed a losing candidate since 1912.

      Clay County, Minnesota, voted for Michael Dukakis over George H. W. Bush.[4] This is the only time it backed a losing candidate since 1968.
      ________________________________________

      1992–5 counties

      Door County, Wisconsin, voted for George H. W. Bush over Bill Clinton.[4] This was the only time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.

      Essex County, New York, voted for George H. W. Bush over Bill Clinton.[4] This is the only time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.

      Hillsborough County, New Hampshire, voted for George H. W. Bush over Bill Clinton.[5] This is the only time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.

      Kent County, Delaware, voted for George H. W. Bush over Bill Clinton.[3] This is the only time it backed a losing candidate since 1948.

      Saratoga County, New York, voted for George H. W. Bush over Bill Clinton.[4] This is the only time it backed a losing caudate since 1976.
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      1996–? Nothing listed for this election in Wiki?

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      2000–1 county

      Pinellas County, Florida, voted for Al Gore over George W. Bush.[6] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1976.
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      2004–2 counties

      Nicollet County, Minnesota, voted for John Kerry over George W. Bush.[4] This is the only time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.

      Sullivan County, New Hampshire, voted for John Kerry over George W. Bush.[4] This is the only time it backed a losing candidate since 1976.
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      2008 ? Nothing listed in Wiki ??
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      2012–1 county

      Albany County, Wyoming, voted for Mitt Romney over Barack Obama.[7] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1976.
      _____________________________

      2016–14 counties [57% of these are in CA (5) & IL(3)]

      Bexar County, Texas, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[3] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1968.

      Buncombe County, North Carolina, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[3] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1960.

      Centre County, Pennsylvania, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[4] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1976.

      Clackamas County, Oregon, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[4] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1976.

      DeKalb County, Illinois, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[4] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1976.

      Merced County, California, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[3] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1968.

      San Bernardino County, California, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[3] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1976.

      San Joaquin County, California, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[3] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1976.

      Skagit County, Washington, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[4] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1976.

      Stanislaus County, California, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[3] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1968.

      Sandoval County, New Mexico, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[3] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1968.

      Ventura County, California, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[3] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1976.

      Will County, Illinois, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[4] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1976.

      Winnebago County, Illinois, voted for Hillary Clinton over Donald Trump.[4] This is the only time it voted for a losing candidate since 1976.

    300. Cash Cow TM says:

      “CASH COW RULES!!! Thank you, Cow!

      You are udderly fantastic! My next glass of milk and steak will be consumed in your honor!

      In moo we trust…”
      *************************************
      STEAK? I hope you mean ham steak…

    301. Cash Cow TM says:

      lisab says

      “you are a well known trump supporter”
      ___________________________________________
      Au contrare!
      Neither Walt NOR I voted for Trump in 2016.

      Walt wrote in someone, and I wrote in Elsie the Borden Milk Cow.

      In 2020 Walt wrote in Ronald Reagan and I wrote in John Bull.

      Trump won both elections in WV by huge landslides and did not need our votes.
      **********************************************

      Just can’t abide voting for someone who has such an eye raising past, and who IMO severely lacks personal qualities to be president.
      #################
      Have to admit I am pleased with his judicial appointments, building some more wall, getting U.S. out of this and that, redoing NAFTA, middle east initiatives, regulatory and tax policies, etc. etc.
      ******************************
      _________________________________________________
      MY HIGH INTEREST IN THE IRREGULARITIES AND FRAUD IN THE 2020 ELECTION IS TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF ELECTIONS AND THUS OUR REPRESENTAIVE DEMOCRACY AND OUR NATION.

    302. Cash Cow TM says:

      The 55 counties that deviated from the winner of the Electoral College in two elections since 1980…?

      Interestingly,

      NEARLY HALF (24 of the 55 counties) deviated in

      BOTH 2020…AND…2012.

    303. Cash Cow TM says:

      Cow is finished doing Intertube work for the rest of you.

      If you trust Wiki, you can go to link below to see more about bellwether counties, etc.

      Personally, I find Wiki a little sketchy.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_election_bellwether_counties_in_the_United_States

    304. Cash Cow TM says:

      IN #303 above

      [Partial list showing these 55 ADDITIONAL counties got it wrong in vote for president one OTHER time since 1980 AND in 2020 when they voted for Trump, but Biden won POTUS.]
      ***********************************************
      17 of the 55 counties are in Wisc, Mich, and Penna.

    305. Walt says:

      Cash Cow,

      Get the heck off the laptop.
      You are late for evening milking.

      And you are only apparently talking to yourself here on HHR.

    306. Walt says:

      “9. Statistical anomalies. In Georgia, Biden overtook Trump with 89 percent of the votes counted. For the next 53 batches of votes counted, Biden led Trump by the same exact 50.05 to 49.95 percent margin in every single batch. It is particularly perplexing that all statistical anomalies and tabulation abnormalities were in Biden’s favor. Whether the cause was simple human error or nefarious activity, or a combination, clearly something peculiar happened.

      If you think that only weirdos have legitimate concerns about these findings and claims, maybe the weirdness lies in you.”

      https://spectator.us/reasons-why-the-2020-presidential-election-is-deeply-puzzling/

    307. Cash Cow TM says:

      Walt,

      Get off the laptop and bring the milking stool and the bucket.

      Your Pal,
      Cash Cow

    308. Phil says:

      278

      To add to Cow’s research.

      Of the 18 of 19 bellwether counties that have been with the winner since at least 1980:

      Trump carried 15 by double digits

      8 of those 15 were by 15 points or more

      The remaining three went to Trump by 5, 8, and 8.

      The 1 of 19 that went for Biden was by 3 pts.

      The election was stolen from Trump in deep blue urban centers in four swing states. End of story.

    309. lisab says:

      Robbie would have surrendered to Japan after MacArthur escaped the Philippines.
      ——————————————-

      robbie would have been great in the warren commission!

      investigator robbie: so mr. hoover … you are saying that mr. oswald, — who was never considered a great shot, and who had been out of the service for several years living with his soviet russian wife, in russia, and who was apparently in contact with cuban agents while living in florida

      was able to hit a moving target, twice, in 7 seconds, at over 200 feet, at a high angle of deflection, using a poorly made surplus italian bolt action rifle, with a simple scope, including a head shot, and a throat shot, which also destroyed governor’s connoly’s rib and shattered his wrist, and the said bullet bullet then came to rest in pristine condition on the governor’s stretcher in the hospital — acted alone?

      j. egdar hoover: that is what we are saying, yes.

      investigator robbie: well that seems definitive … no need to investigate then

    310. pitchaboy says:

      No big deal Walt. 100% of anomalies in an election with over 150 million consistently favored slojo. That is easily explained by a radical shift in voting patterns in 4 cities where more people than registered turned out to vote. Such was the enthusiasm that it bordered on a collective orgasm.

    311. Cash Cow TM says:

      Pivot Counties…and….Boomerang Pivot Counties
      ************************************************
      “Pivot Counties are the 206 counties nationwide Ballotpedia identified as having voted for Barack Obama (D) in 2008 and 2012 and Donald Trump (R) in the 2016 presidential election. Media and political observers sometimes refer to these counties as swing counties.

      This page provides an analysis of the 2020 presidential election results in those counties. Ballotpedia defines Pivot Counties Trump won in 2020 as Retained Pivot Counties and those Joe Biden (D) won as Boomerang Pivot Counties. Preliminary returns indicated that the majority of Pivot Counties were carried by President Trump again.

      As of Nov. 30 at 11:00 a.m. ET, Trump won 179 Retained Pivot Counties to Biden’s 25 Boomerang Pivot Counties. These numbers are subject to change as results are finalized. Trump’s median margin of victory was 13.2 percentage points in those 179 counties, while Biden’s median margin of victory was 3.4 percentage points among the 25 he won.[1][2]”

    312. jaichind says:

      Another bunch of NY VBM vote came in. Now there is a swing toward Dem in NY relative to 2016.

    313. lisab says:

      Comrade Cow,

      just suck it up …

      you may not get the president you voted for,

      but you will get the president we think your deserve

    314. lisab says:

      ** you deserve **

      i hate making spelling errors when stirring the pot! 🙂

    315. Cash Cow TM says:

      Do you live in a Pivot county?
      Any near you?

      List of pivot counties with STUNNING stats, plus map.

      https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2020:_Pivot_Counties_in_the_2020_presidential_election

    316. Cash Cow TM says:

      Even though she stirs the pot, I like lisab.

      She is a vegetarian, which gets big points from Cow.

    317. Pitchaboy says:

      It don’t matter more real people turned out in most counties for DJT. Make believe people came out in the millions for SloJo in 4 cities. Case closed.

    318. Phil says:

      Pitch, you just summed it up. End of story.

    319. PresidentPaul! says:

      “It Was a Political Persecution of the Highest Order” – General Flynn Promises to Confront Dirty Obama if He Ever Runs into Him (Video)

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/political-persecution-highest-order-general-flynn-promises-confront-dirty-obama-ever-runs-video/

    320. Cash Cow TM says:

      pitchaboy says:
      December 3, 2020 at 6:38 pm

      No big deal Walt.
      100% of anomalies in an election with over 150 million consistently favored slojo. That is easily explained by a radical shift in voting patterns in 4 cities where more people than registered turned out to vote. Such was the enthusiasm that it bordered on a collective orgasm.”

      ####################################
      Pitch (and Phil),

      we all know Robbie is full of beans.

    321. PresidentPaul! says:

      Was listening to hedgeye today. They said they had a forcast of over 10% GDP growth in q2 for USA. If this is true, you can expect the yield curve to keep steepening.

    322. Robbie says:

      Cash Cow TM says:
      December 3, 2020 at 6:58 pm
      pitchaboy says:
      December 3, 2020 at 6:38 pm

      No big deal Walt.
      100% of anomalies in an election with over 150 million consistently favored slojo. That is easily explained by a radical shift in voting patterns in 4 cities where more people than registered turned out to vote. Such was the enthusiasm that it bordered on a collective orgasm.”

      ####################################
      Pitch (and Phil),

      we all know Robbie is full of beans.

      – Oh yeah. Well, you’re full a various cuts meat that would look great on my grill! Moo!

      😉

    323. Robbie says:

      PresidentPaul! says:
      December 3, 2020 at 7:00 pm
      Was listening to hedgeye today. They said they had a forcast of over 10% GDP growth in q2 for USA. If this is true, you can expect the yield curve to keep steepening.

      – Is that Keith McCullough’s operation?

      I remember him saying on March 23 he wasn’t negative enough on the US stock market and the next day the market began one of the great rallies we’ve ever seen.

    324. PresidentPaul! says:

      unaware what he said March 23rd.

    325. NYCmike says:

      “You’re convinced the election was stolen so nothing is going to make you or the others who think as you do happy.”

      -You are so off it’s useless to try to change your mind, but I will state what I think.

      I’m convinced their were actions taken which are very suspicious.

      Could Biden have won? Yes, he sure could have.

      BUT, once the counts stopped in the middle of the night, with Trump leading in all of the places where it was stopped, and then after a few hours there are large dumps of votes mainly from localities where there is no ballot security, I believe a thorough investigation should take place. The fact that you don’t says a lot about you, as it does about Gov Kemp.

    326. NYCmike says:

      “unaware what he said March 23rd.”

      -I remember that day!

      I said to myself “Where is bunu with our daily financial report?!?! Can I only rely on Robbie for our daily Wuhan report?! What is this world coming to!!??”