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    Hawley Job Approval Underwater by Double Digits in MO

    Whether he wants to be known for it or not, Republican US Senator Josh Hawley has become one of the leading faces of Republicans who tried to overturn the 2020 Presidential election and it now appears to be hurting him in his own home state according to a new poll from Morning Consult. In Texas, Ted Cruz is also down but at least is still above water in his job approval in Texas.,

    MISSOURI – US SENATOR JOSH HAWLEY (R) JOB APPROVAL (MC)
    Approve 36%
    Disapprove 49%

    TEXAS – US SENATOR TED CRUZ (R) JOB APPROVAL (MC)
    Approve 45%
    Disapprove 44%

    These polls were done January 18th among 743 registered voters in MO and 2201 registered voters in TX. The positive thing is both Senators are not up for re-election until 2024 although one or both may decide the run for President anyway.

    Posted by Dave at 4:33 pm
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    1,043 Responses to “Hawley Job Approval Underwater by Double Digits in MO”

    1. lisab says:

      it is sad that so many republicans have quit hhr

      that it falls to the socialist to say,

      “is this a joke? are you guys not even trying to win anymore?”

      about bitterlaw’s impending mid-life crisis

    2. lisab says:

      “Most candidates will tell you how wonderful and accomplished and successful and well liked they are, and that is why you vote for them. ”
      —————————————-

      it is a bad idea to lie

    3. lisab says:

      Biden Grants Citizenship To Everyone Who Voted For Him

    4. lisab says:

      Biden Outlines Plan For Final 100 Days In Office

    5. lisab says:

      White House Press Corps Wears New Cheerleading Uniforms To Press Briefing

    6. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Several of the recent headings on threads on this board reflect the forlorn hopes by NeverTrumpers that they will now somehow gain control of the Republican Party:

      +A Pew poll showing Trump’s job approval had fallen to 30% because his Republican support had dropped substantially. This was contradicted in subsequent polls which found Republican voters still supported Trump, with support polling in the 80-90% range.

      +The claim that “The Impeachment Dam is Breaking Among Republicans” after Liz Cheney indicated she would vote to impeach. In fact, only 10 Republicans voted for impeachment; the dam is holding strong.

      +Now we have the Morning Consult, a liberal polling organization, claiming that Hawley is “underwater by double digits.” How did that big blue waive Democratic congressional election predicted by Morning Consult last November turn out? Clearly Hawley is viewed as a threat by the left, so expect a series of future liberal attacks — which will just strengthen his standing among Republicans.

    7. lisab says:

      Dems shocked to find their lives still suck after Trump is no longer president

    8. lisab says:

      25k National Guard troops for inauguration was Joe Biden’s largest crowd ever

    9. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      8. There is a lot of anger over how poorly the national guard troops were treated who came to the Inaugural. Being forced to sleep in parking garages. Says a lot about Biden and his cronies.

    10. Bitterlaw says:

      Biden ends every speech with “Gob bless America and God bless our troops.” Pretty empty words when the troops sleep on garage floors.

    11. Paul says:

      Trump put the troops in the garage….. The decision to move the troops to the garage was at the request of the Capital Police. It happened during the morning of the inauguration so it was still Trump’s presidency that was ultimately in charge.

    12. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @NileGardiner
      The Biden White House is doubling down on removing the Churchill bust from the Oval Office, saying it is “just a bust of Winston Churchill.” Sir Winston Churchill saved the free world. He is a huge hero on both sides of the Atlantic. Show some respect.

      @NileGardiner
      This will upset the EU elites, who hated Trump and adore Biden. But UK should not underestimate depth of real animosity towards Brexit within the leftist Biden Presidency, and Biden’s Eurofederalism. A challenging four years ahead for US/UK alliance.

    13. Phil says:

      11

      Oh brother. Trump’s to blame?

      Just stop, man. You are making a fool out of yourself.

    14. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      11. What you said are total lies. Biden became president on Wednesday, the National Guard was ordered into the parking garage the next day. At least, Biden has apologized:

      “Biden apologizes to National Guard chief after 5,000 soldiers had to reportedly sleep in a DC parking garage with only one bathroom

      President Joe Biden called the National Guard’s chief on Friday to issue an apology.

      Earlier this week, photos circulated on social media of troops sleeping on the floor of parking lots.

      National Guard members were forced to vacate the Capitol on Thursday, according to Politico.

      President Joe Biden has called the chief of the National Guard Bureau to apologize after images circulated online of troops sleeping in a parking garage.”

    15. Phil says:

      Perhaps Biden issued the apology on behalf of Trump. Yeah, that’s it. LOL.

      The left does nothing but lie. This is just another example. They can’t help themselves. It’s in their DNA.

    16. Paul says:

      14: Perhaps I have my facts wrong. But, I understood that the troops were moved because McConnell, McCarthy, and the President and VP were using the space for their gift giving time right after the inauguration. If that was the case, the decision would have predated the beginning of Biden’s presidency.

      However, I was mostly saying that tongue-in-cheek. It sounds like it was simply a decision of the Capital Police and National Guard. Making a big deal of it is stupid.

    17. Phil says:

      I guess my question would be why in hell are these troops still in DC to begin with?

    18. lisab says:

      I guess my question would be why in hell are these troops still in DC to begin with?
      —————-

      because biden is really popular among the troops

    19. lisab says:

      this is also why nominating a veteran for congress is generally a smart idea

    20. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      16. It is a very big deal, for among other reasons a lot of the national guard members appear to have contracted coronavirus. Being packed into a parking garage like sardines with one restroom might have been a contributing factor.

      The Capitol Police are stating they did not give the order, it was unidentified Capitol building “staffers.” In a pathetic last attempt to maintain the cover-up, a feeble claim is being made the “staffers” did not act under anyone’s direction.

    21. lisab says:

      It is a very big deal
      ———-

      well maybe the gope will complain

    22. Paul says:

      20: Yes, it is a big deal. BUT AN IDIOT LIKE YOU TRYING TO MAKE IT THE DEMOCRATS FALT IS ASININE> GO TO HELL< SANDIEGO AND DON'T COME BACK.

    23. Paul says:

      LISAB CAN SUCK MY TWINKIE.

    24. Cash Cow TM says:

      “[Cash Cow,] Would you settle for not being hamburger?”
      *************************************
      Well, given enough time, I am sure many on HHR would devour me for one reason or another, such as I once had my picture taken with McCain or Romney.

      You all seem to enjoy devouring and skewering each other here…

    25. Bitterlaw says:

      Here is the 2020 losing candidate in my district.

      https://ballotpedia.org/Dasha_Pruett#Campaign_themes

      Here is the 2018 losing candidate in my district

      https://ballotpedia.org/Pearl_Kim

      Kim had years of experience prosecuting child predators.

    26. Bitterlaw says:

      https://ballotpedia.org/Mary_Gay_Scanlon

      Rep Scanlon voted for both impeachments. I was opposed to both impeachments. That should help me with Trump’s base. She is also a lawyer so that is a wash.

    27. Bitterlaw says:

      You all seem to enjoy devouring and skewering each other here…

      From out of the mouths of bovines…The irony is that Cash Cow is less at risk of being skewered and devoured than the human posters.

    28. Paul says:

      You have nicer hair that Scanlon.

    29. Paul says:

      If it were between you and Dasha, I would vote for you.

    30. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      So it was all the National Guard’s fault; more governors need to order their their guard members to home. From CNN:

      “A House aide familiar with Capitol Police also refuted the accusation that the guidance to move troops out of the Capitol came from a Capitol Police officer, saying, “Obviously we’re reviewing that but there was no directive given to the National Guard to move, they did that on their own volition.”
      This aide instead suggested that the National Guard misinterpreted an offer from a judicial office building for more space as an order to vacate from Capitol Grounds. The aide told CNN that an individual from a judicial office building where the National Guard ended up, known as the Thurgood Marshall Federal Judiciary Building, offered use of their facilities as extra space to the National Guard that the source says the National Guard misinterpreted as an order to vacate Capitol grounds and relocate.
      “That’s what my understanding of what happened, is that somebody reached out directly to the National Guard, probably should have gone to the Capitol Police or the architect of the Capitol to do that, and then the National Guard moved,” the source told CNN. “What our understanding is this guy tried to be helpful, and offer up some space and, and somehow that was misconstrued as an order to leave.”

    31. Bitterlaw says:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Meehan#2016

      Pat Meehan cruised to victory several times until the PA Supreme Court rewrote the boundaries. His opponent in 2012 was a workers compensation lawyer who represents employees. He promised that I would be elected to the Township Council and then the County Counsel if I switched parties. I said no.

    32. Phil says:

      Paul off his meds again.

    33. Bitterlaw says:

      I thought the 2018 and 2020 Republican candidates were excellent. They were clearly too excellent. I will fix that problem.

    34. lisab says:

      I thought the 2018 and 2020 Republican candidates were excellent. They were clearly too excellent. I will fix that problem.
      —————————

      as the great wilford brimley once said,

      you don’t start playing ball at your age, you retire

    35. Cash Cow TM says:

      Many Americans have an affinity for fearing that which cannot be seen, and readily support massive big government power, control and directives to eliminate the unseen threat.

      –Global warming / climate change

      –the rush to buy products marketed to eradicate unseen causes of some human malady (hair loss, cancer, prevent tired blood, counteract memory loss, etc., etc.

      –covid 19

      –massive violent actions by right wing extremists Trump supporters who want to attack D.C. and state capitols and overthrow the representative democracy.

      *******************************************
      Cow lost a lot of friends who stamped over cliffs due to claps of thunder that were thought to be cannon fire precursor of impending assaults by meat packers armies on the herd.

      ########################################

      Cooler heads need top prevail during “crises” that are blown all out of proportion.

      –Naturally occurring climate change has been in existence since before the dinosaurs

      –people naturally age and decline (except Walt)

      –New strains of diseased come about and run their course

      –the overwhelming majority of people who voted for Trump and think the election was stolen still favor peaceful solutions to maintain a representative democracy.
      _______________________________
      But b..s… crazy radicals in all the examples above want everyone to believe what they believe and ignore facts that cast a shadow on or disprove what in is their own heads. And they will take extreme measures to accomplish their strong misguided but dangerous beliefs.

    36. Phil says:

      Yes. It was the National Guard’s fault. Okie Dokie

      Our Texas members of the National Guard are already home, BTW.

      Just leave the blue state guard members in DC. It’s now just a political guard of the left anyway.

      The national guard is slated to stay until mid March at least.

      How’s Portland and Seattle looking tonight, BTW? Peaceful as usual I bet.

    37. Cash Cow TM says:

      –Global warming / climate change

      –the rush to buy products marketed to eradicate unseen causes of some human malady (hair loss, cancer, prevent tired blood, counteract memory loss, etc., etc.

      –covid 19

      –massive violent actions by right wing extremists Trump supporters who want to attack D.C. and state capitols and overthrow the representative democracy.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      “WE HAVE TO ACT DECISIVELY NOW!”

      “TAKE EVERY STEP IMAGINABLE TO PREVENT THESE!”

      (“EVEN IF IT MEANS STEPPING ALL OVER CONSTITUTIONALLY PRPOTECTED ROGHTS!”)
      *******************************************

      “NEVER LET AGOOD CRISI GO TO WASTE”

    38. Bitterlaw says:

      you don’t start playing ball at your age, you retire

      The title of the office is Representative. Despite your contempt, my experience is relevant. Why are you so determined to mock and dissuade me? I know that is not out of any concern for me. You watched my interview in either my School District or Commissioner election and made certain to say I looked fat and ripped every answer I gave. I will never understand this animosity from you.

    39. Bitterlaw says:

      You should want me to lose. I am not in your state and I am not going to advance utopian socialism.

    40. lisab says:

      I know that is not out of any concern for me.
      ————

      its concern for the country

    41. lisab says:

      I will never understand this animosity from you.
      ——————————

      it is not animosity

      it is honesty

    42. Bitterlaw says:

      its concern for the country

      I want points, jason. Apparently, I am a threat to the country.

      You did not deny that you mocked me years ago when I sought the School District and Township races you claimed that I was better suited for. You disliked me then. You dislike me now. At least you are consistent in your middle-age contempt for me.

    43. Bitterlaw says:

      Right. Nobody has ever been elected at the age of 54 without having 30 years of government experience.

    44. Bitterlaw says:

      Well, I used to appreciate your HHR persona. If I accept you at your word, you have helped traumatized young people. Now I see the other side of you – a smartass childless middle-aged woman who just adopts whatever side she needs to seek approval from anonymous bloggers. I remember years ago expressing sympathy and some legal advice upon the passing of your mother. Your sisters were thieves and I tried to steer you towards getting representation. I am also sorry that your father died from COVID. I truly hope that you are a better person in real life than you are here.

      Keep the disdain and mockery coming. After the nightmare of 2020, there is nothing coming from such as a sad person that could hurt me.

    45. Bitterlaw says:

      Wizz – My girls team lost 32-30. We are required to play each player for 20 of the 40 minutes of the game (except for fouls or injuries). Our best guard made too many turnovers. Back at it on Wednesday.

    46. WizardofCozz says:

      Bitter,

      You get em next time. Turnovers are one of the hardest things to control. You can preach till you are blue in the face but they’re either going to turn it over or not.

    47. Bitterlaw says:

      I am coaching with a different coach this season since my regular partner is 71 and just got 1 round of the vaccine. I don’t have a daughter on the team but my partner does. He was pissed that his daughter chose to defend a breakaway layup by fouling a girl after the basket went in. She was their best foul shooter so we went from leading 30-28 to trailing 31-30.

      If it was our best 5 against their best I think we had the advantage. But everybody plays equally so we need to either have our best 5 go out together and then hope other 5 can hold on for 5 minutes until the best 5 go out again OR have 2 evenly divided squads. We lost by 2 so we may keep the squads balanced but switch the guards between the squads.

    48. lisab says:

      Nobody has ever been elected at the age of 54 without having 30 years of government experience.
      ——————————–

      of course there have been, but they usually have long records of success and/or working for the benefit of others

    49. lisab says:

      Keep the disdain and mockery coming.
      —————————————-

      i am not mocking you,i am being completely straight with you.

    50. Bitterlaw says:

      I am sure that being a coach for boys and girls since 2004 will count for something. I have never cut a player. In fact, I coached 3 teams at 3 different levels one year so 30 more players had a team. I know that means nothing to lisab but giving hundreds of hours per year to children shows a commitment to something.

      Lisab can call me a failed lawyer but after 26 years of litigation, I have no doubt in my ability to grill witnesses and officials. My opponents have told me that they warn their clients about how nice and respectful I am during testimony and the clients still testify the way I need them to.

      I wish I had been a veteran or a prosecutor. Those doors were shut to me. Just maybe, 2022 will be a year for a different type of candidate. A candidate who knows what it is like to feel the sting and shame of unemployment even though he worked 60 hours a week but COVID took just job. Maybe it is time for a candidate who has held the hands of 3 people as they died. I will dedicate myself to focusing more effective treatment on the mentally ill because I know what is to have your soul crushed when depression wins. I have seen injured workers become addicted to pain meds by immoral doctors who are no different than street dealers. I will increase those penalties or do everything I can to do so. Lisab thinks I am a joke destined to fail. The irony is that I am not afraid to fail because I have nothing to lose. A lot of people have nothing left to lose. Lose an election? Zzzzzz. Been there. Done that. Is it going to hurt worse than burying the first person to call me uncle. No. My opponent does have something to lose – her office.

    51. Bitterlaw says:

      https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-news/satanist-sex-robots-vampire-dolls-23371522

      I know you all hate Drudge but where do you get your sex robot news?

    52. Paul says:

      I would vote for you, Bitter.

      “There is a crack, a crack in everything
      That’s how the light gets in”

    53. lisab says:

      you coached kids sports … ok, good. that is a town council type of thing.

    54. lisab says:

      but in a time when the deplorables — working people — think the gop establishment has screwed them over

      (the kind of people who go to and work at the mcdonald’s that is not even allowed to list its address as being in your town)

      you think that a insurance lawyer, who has made a point of saying how much he despises trump and who almost daily belittles his supporters

      is the best person to gain their support.

      that is robbie math.

    55. lisab says:

      but paul supports you!

    56. lisab says:

      and yes, an iraq veteran would be a good candidate

      the deplorables would at least know such a person has served their country could trust they were not not an elitist

      hard to be an elitist when your country sends you to a war zone

    57. Bitterlaw says:

      Find one post where I belittled Trump’s supporters. My posts and not jason’s spin. As for your stupid point about McDonald’s, all of the voters in the district can read a map and know that PART of Bryn Mawr is in Radnor Township. Radnor Township does not tell McDonalds to use or not use the name Radnor.

      No different than the Giant supermarket in St. David’s or Wayne Jewelers in Wayne. All are in Radnor Township. In fact, the RADNOR HOTEL IS IN ST. DAVID’S.
      https://radnorhotel.com/

      In fact, RADNOR HIGH SCHOOL (PART OF THE NUMBER 1 SCHOOL DISTRICT IN PA) IS IN WAYNE. All of the businesses are in Radnor Township and everybody who lives here know it.

    58. lisab says:

      that you don’t think you belittle the trump supporters, or at least when they were here, shows that you are not the person to run

    59. lisab says:

      let’s just skip ahead

      you do not have the background to be candidate — you have not worked for it in public service

      tell the gop chairman that you have had thoughts of suicide for years

      and put that in your campaign literature

      and if the people still vote for you, then i will withdraw my objections

    60. Bitterlaw says:

      The irony of somebody in the Peace Corps pretending I am not worthy to serve in Congress because I did not serve in the military is a joke. Your time in the peace corps was as useless to the nation as my pancreas. Actually, when I get to Washington, I am going to try to overturn the blatant discrimination against diabetics serving in the military.

      I have 2 questions for the Hedgehog Jury?

      1. Even though none of you would probably vote for me even if you still voted, do you agree with lisab that I am unworthy of running for Congress?

      2. Do anybody of you comprehend what lisab is trying to use to disqualify me from office because McDonald’s lists it’s address as Bryn Mawr? Quick refresher in geography. The following are all names of areas in Radnor Township:

      Bryn Mawr
      Newtown Square
      Ithan
      Garrett Hill
      St. David’s
      Rosemont
      Wayne

      Oh. Look. The Radnor Township Building is in Wayne.

      https://www.radnor.com/facilities/facility/details/Township-Municipal-Building-39

      Is Radnor Township’s government so elitist that it won’t let itself use the name Radnor in its address?

    61. lisab says:

      so you think its fine that a would-be congressman has suicidal thoughts? and has for years …

      you are not qualified

      you do not have the background

      and clearly you don’t have the temperament

    62. Bitterlaw says:

      LIAR. I never belittled a single poster for being a Trump supporter. I have treated everybody the same since 11 years before Trump came down the elevator. They disagree AND lie about me? 16 years of GFYs.

      Withdraw your objection? Zzzzzzzzzz.

      I don’t trust you at all. I fully expect that when I announce my run, you will send Congresswoman Scanlon a link to HHR. I’ll live. I have more than a decade of hammering the racists and bigots who tried to set up shop here.

    63. Bitterlaw says:

      I am well over 25 and I reside in PA. I have all the requirements. I also stated my background. How do you know my temperament in the real world? You think this is all of me? Why do parents ask for me as a coach when they register? Because I am so horrible?

    64. lisab says:

      I fully expect that when I announce my run, you will send Congresswoman Scanlon a link to HHR
      ———————

      as i said, it won’t be me …

      but tell everyone about your mental health issues, and if they still want you to run for congress … fine with me

      it is not my party

    65. lisab says:

      Why do parents ask for me as a coach when they register?
      —————————–

      i am sure you are great with children

      that is not at issue

    66. Bitterlaw says:

      Do what you are going to do, lisab. I am running. Of course
      ,the irony of somebody who claimed I need to seek help now obviously going to try and use it to stop me is delicious.

      Walt and WV Ali met me. They know my temperament better than you do. Goodnight.

    67. lisab says:

      as i said, i am not going to do anything …

      it is likely someone will, maybe robbie,

      but it won’t be me.

      i ask you again, you think its fine that a would-be congressman has suicidal thoughts? and has for years …

    68. Bitterlaw says:

      It will be you. Maybe it will get me more votes. You told me years ago there was no shame in getting help with depression. Ironically, now it would disqualify me from office. If I am such a suicide risk, why am I still here? Why haven’t you tried to save me with all of your training? A three minute google search would locate all of my contact info. I actually still have a landline and a public listing of my address and phone number.

    69. Bitterlaw says:

      I think it is fine. I would never vote for somebody who was always happy. I’m not going anywhere. I don’t even own a gun.

    70. lisab says:

      Why haven’t you tried to save me with all of your training?
      —————————————–

      i have suggested you get help many times, but no one will get help who does not want it.

    71. lisab says:

      I think it is fine. I would never vote for somebody who was always happy.
      ————————–

      then tell the gop chairperson

    72. lisab says:

      well that went well

    73. lisab says:

      this is why i don’t work with old people

    74. Bitterlaw says:

      I don’t take suggestions or orders from you. You are a joke. You made your threat. Do what you are going to do..

    75. Bitterlaw says:

      I am sure you really help your students. “I know you were brutalized as a child. I know you would like to get a job. I’m sorry but you are not qualified. I will call that employer to tell them your name and all about what we discussed”

    76. lisab says:

      You made your threat.
      ————————-

      i have made no threat.

      i am not the issue

    77. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Tweet from Ben Domenich–the Federalist and Mr. Megan McCain:

      “Hill chatter: Republican Senators who are up in 2022 increasingly fear primary challenges on the basis of supporting McConnell as leader.

      One comment: “He’s setting us up and he doesn’t seem to even realize it, or he just doesn’t care.”

    78. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      In this day and age, I doubt a political candidate’s blog posts mentioning suicidal thoughts would have much impact, other than causing a lot of voters to not vote for the politician who was responsible for publishing them. The free publicity and experiencing of an “Oprah moment” might actually be beneficial for the maligned candidate.

      People are a lot more understanding of people’s mental complexity than in the past. Many historic figures, such as Churchill, spoke of being under a mental cloud, and showed signs of major depression.

      I would have no problem voting for Bitter, once he has finally sees the light and moves to Coronado, California.

      Bitter, if you ever have thoughts of suicide, it would be good to consider the comments of a person who actually jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge in a suicide attempt, but amazingly survived:

      “Ken Baldwin, who survived a jump off the Golden Gate Bridge, once told the New Yorker’s Tad Friend that as he was falling, he “instantly realized that everything in my life that I’d thought was unfixable was totally fixable — except for having just jumped.””

    79. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Despite the hopes of the leftist press, I do not believe McConnell will support impeachment –it patently violates the Constitution which states a President “shall be removed from office on impeachment…” Trump is not in office anymore, so is not subject to impeachment. This reminds me of when the English dug up the body of Oliver Cromwell from his grave so they could hang him.

      Frankly believe the Democrats will look stupid in February trying to impeach Trump. History will look at it as vindictive and petty.

    80. Gordon Allen says:

      FWIW Governor Desantis told Biden to take a hike and Florida Guard members, like Texas,are home.BTW my son in law is an officer in his states Guard( Democratic state) and his troops despise Biden

    81. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Good for Senator Grassley(R-IA), but he would receive a better result if he banged his face on a wall! The DOJ and FBI are wholly-owned Subsidiaries of the Democrat Party.
      Maybe Robbie,CG and Messy can explain why this is par for the course!

      https://dailycaller.com/2021/01/23/grassley-doj-michael-flynn-leak-probe/

    82. jason says:

      I don’t agree with lisab about Bitter not being qualified to run for Congress.

      He is certainly more qualified than AOC.

    83. jason says:

      Sorry for setting the bar so low, Bitter, just trying to help.

    84. jason says:

      Karma is a b-tch..

      “NEW – Amazon and Jeff Bezos do not want their workers voting by mail-in-ballots on unionization. An Amazon spokesperson tells CNN the company is seeking a “valid, fair and successful election” and in-person would ensure that.”

    85. jason says:

      “person who actually jumped off the Golden Gate Bridge in a suicide attempt, but amazingly survived”

      I saw a documentary on people jumping from GG.

      There have actually been like 34 people who survived, and ALL that were interviewed say they regretted jumping as soon as they did it.

    86. jason says:

      Two people jumped twice, didn’t survive the second jump.

    87. jason says:

      Phil, give Cornyn credit for this idea…..why not?

      “Senate Republican threatens impeachments of past Democratic presidents. “The Texas Republican senator John Cornyn warned on Saturday that Donald Trump’s second impeachment could lead to the prosecution of former Democratic presidents if Republicans retake Congress in two years’ time.” Given Cornyn’s importance in the leadership, this suggests that there will be no conviction.”

    88. jason says:

      I am not sure why Rs, whether for or against impeachment, don’t stand firm on the fact it is unconstitutional to impeach someone who has left office.

      McConnell, by accepting the trial, seems to be throwing a bone to Schumer.

    89. Bitterlaw says:

      Thanks, Jason. But how can I survive Bryn Mawr-Gate?

    90. jason says:

      Find one post where I belittled Trump’s supporters. My posts and not jason’s spin.”

      Not actually my spin. I think you are enamored with the suburban vote and dismissive of the working class and minority vote Trump brought into the party. I don’t really think it is a class warfare thing even though I joke about it, I think it is just that you are too insular in your thinking. You need to get out more, as you yourself admit you only leave your house to go to work.

    91. jason says:

      Kelli Chemtrail Ward re-elected as AZ GOP chair.

    92. JeffP says:

      Per Jason Miller…It looks like President Trumps future goals are getting GOP seats in 2022 for majority and working with individual states to improve voting security etc…maybe a deal was struck we don’t know about? I like it.

    93. Phil says:

      With regard to an impeachment trial, if Schumer is serious about starting the trial 24 hours after receiving the articles of impeachment tomorrow, we should know very soon whether Roberts agrees to preside over the trial.

      He has a hurdle in doing so. The Constitution says the Chief Justice should preside over the trial in the senate of the President. Last time I looked, Trump wasn’t the POTUS. Minor detail I know. Also I think that there is this nasty clause in the Constitution about no Bill of Attainder. Something Derowitz says clearly fits this kind of trial.

      Now, given Roberts hatred of Trump and his prior actions – twisting himself into a pretzel to ok Obamacare as well as voting to allow the ridiculous skirting of election law in Pa prior to the November election expect him to go along with whatever the DC elites to tell him to do. He doesn’t want to lose his standing invitation ton the Georgetown dinner party circuit.

    94. Phil says:

      I can’t give Cornyn credit for anything. He’s a nothingburger. He’s just facing reality that if he votes yes on impeachment all hell would break loose with Texas Republicans. He’s another spineless Republican elite.

    95. Cash Cow TM says:

      Cow would vote for Bitter.

      Cow will contribute financially.

      Bitter is qualified to run for H of R.
      ##########################################

      It is baffling and disturbing as to why lisab has decided to go to constant-attack-,personal-attack war on Bitter.

      I do not know why she is so foamy at the mouth. Her behavior is odd indeed.

      She needs to get right with God, or her ‘inner self’ or whatever.

    96. jaichind says:

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/01/22/amazon-union-vote-alabama/

      Bezos objects to all mail for unionize vote and wants in person vote

    97. jason says:

      I already posted that, karma is a b-tch for Bezos.

    98. jason says:

      Cash Cow, remember lisab was Walt’s honey bunny for years here, go easy on her.

    99. jason says:

      I think Tgca asked lisab to fill in for him on his Bitter attacks, I think she is doing a smashing job (pun intended).

    100. Bitterlaw says:

      Dismissive of working class and minority voters? Hundreds of posts that the GOP needs to build with the voters who were attracted to Trump and I am dismissive? Thousands of posts going back to 2004 about the GOP needing to reach out to minorities and I am dismissive? I have been fighting with Phil for as long as he has been here to challenge his idea that ethnicity is political destiny theory.

      Jason is intelligent. Jason is dishonest about me? Both can be true. But he is still my A-hole.

    101. jason says:

      I can’t give Cornyn credit for anything.”

      I give credit where credit is due.

      If Trump can be impeached, so can Obama and Clinton. Great idea.

    102. Bitterlaw says:

      Don’t tell lisab. I had breakfast at a restaurant in Villanova (which is part of Radnor Township) but the location in the name is Villanova.

    103. jason says:

      Dismissive of working class and minority voters?”

      I stand by my comment.

      “I think you are enamored with the suburban vote and dismissive of the working class and minority vote Trump brought into the party. I don’t really think it is a class warfare thing even though I joke about it, I think it is just that you are too insular in your thinking. You need to get out more, as you yourself admit you only leave your house to go to work.”

      Again, it does not imply racism or class warfare, I just think you believe in a strategy that will result in a smaller tent GOP, not larger.

    104. Bitterlaw says:

      What you say is completely contradicted by thousands of posts over 16 years. So when I say that I want Trump’s base to STAY in the GOP, it really means I don’t want them to stay in the GOP? Are you serious?

    105. Paul says:

      I know my opinion is trash here and I really don’t know you at all. I appreciate your honesty and your compassion/understanding of the brokenness of humanity.

      I would think that your experience is on par with some of the previous Republican candidates in your district. However, I do see that they each lost the general by a sizeable amount. Likely, the best Republicans may not be drawn to running for congress in your district.

      Does the State Rep or Senate districts in which you live have a more Republican leaning composition? If so, I would go for that instead…. Just my opinion which can freely be tossed.

    106. Bitterlaw says:

      Paul – There is no pre-approval required to post here. I want to serve in Congress. Go big or go home.

    107. Bitterlaw says:

      The state rep has been entrenched for years. He is the ultimate campaigner. Every election he comes to my house to ask for my support even though I always tell him no. Very nice guy and smart enough to never introduce anything controversial. Flaming lib in his votes but avoids sounding like it.

    108. Phil says:

      Well, our predictable friend Mitt Romney made it to Chris Wallace on Fox this morning. According to Red State State he sang the praises of Larry Hogan and Ben Sasse as the future of the GOP. Also high on Chris Christie now that he’s gone all in on hate Trump.

      What a worthless POS.

      Hey, bitter. Your party is beyond pathetic. Cris Wallace and Mitt Romney giving each other tongue baths over Trump. Ain’t it great?

    109. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil – Since you won’t help fix it, your opinions are sadly irrelevant. I can’t do more than ask you to return and reform the party. You don’t want to do it.

      How was breakfast with the Quitter Chorus?

    110. Phil says:

      You’ll find out how irrelevant my opinions are in 2022, bitter.

      The problem with you and Robbie is you actually believe my opinions aren’t shared by millions of pissed off conservatives….but, yeah, Romney really laid the wood to us irrelevant types today.

      Larry Hogan and Ben Sasse the future of the “big tent” Republican Party. Sounds like a plan.

    111. lisab says:

      He is certainly more qualified than AOC.
      ——————

      that should not be the bar

    112. lisab says:

      i think i’d have to say robbie is more qualified than aoc …

      supposedly he can fly a plane

      that takes some skill

      she can make a martini

    113. lisab says:

      Enemies, a Love Story: Inside the 36-year Biden and McConnell Relationship

      The two 78-year-old deal-makers have been parties to the collapse of Capitol culture. Now they’ll need to make Washington work again.

    114. lisab says:

      Romney on Trump impeachment: ‘If we’re going to have unity,’ there must be ‘accountability’
      Romney, who voted to convict Trump at his first impeachment trial, supports the upcoming second trial

    115. lisab says:

      Fox News is a hazard to our democracy. It’s time to take the fight to the Murdochs. Here’s how.

      … Corporations that advertise on Fox News should walk away, and citizens who care about the truth should demand that they do so (in addition to trying to steer their friends and relatives away from the network)….

      When you think about Fox News’s role in the 400,000 lives lost to the pandemic and in the disastrous attack of Jan. 6, it’s even fair to call it deadly.

    116. lisab says:

      Congress must face the enemy within | Members of Congress who endangered their colleagues, or who violated their oaths of office and fed the insurrection with their lies, must be held accountable for the Jan. 6 attack.

      boston globe

    117. lisab says:

      Capitol Riot Puts Spotlight on ‘Apocalyptically Minded’ Global Far Right

      nytimes

    118. lisab says:

      Two former Trump officials to be investigated for posting papers denying climate change

      ministry of truth

    119. lisab says:

      John Dean: Insurrectionist Senators are Co-Conspirators and Should Not Sit in Judgment of Trump | AOC: “Sen. Hawley is trying to wiggle out of inciting a riot that killed 5”

    120. lisab says:

      biden’s work so far

      Rejoined the World Health Organization and announced Dr Anthony Fauci would serve as the head of the US delegation
      Ended the previous administration’s travel restrictions on several Muslim majority countries
      Swore in nearly 1,000 new administration appointees via Zoom
      Cancelled permits for the Keystone XL oil pipeline
      Created a new presidential appointee role, the Covid-19 Response Coordinator to assist with national vaccine distribution efforts
      Launched the “100 Days Mask Challenge”, including an executive order mandating mask wearing on federal grounds and encouraging Americans to wear masks for 100 days
      Extended the nationwide eviction and foreclosure moratorium until at least the end of March
      Strengthened the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program via executive order
      Avril Haines confirmed as the first woman to lead USIC as the new director of national intelligence
      Rescinded the 1776 Commission, created under the Trump administration to help reshape how public schools teach the history of slavery
      Rejoined the Paris Climate Accord via executive order
      Reversed components of immigration enforcement expansion under previous administration via executive order
      Paused student loans payments and the accruing of interest on all federal student loans until at least the end of September
      Ordered a regulatory review at the Office of Management and Budget to undo the previous administration’s regulatory approval process
      Halted the construction of new border security installations along the US-Mexico border
      Announced new executive orders for school and business reopening plans
      Ordered the inclusion of non-US citizens in the Census
      Implemented new ethics pledges for executive branch employees
      Signed executive order preventing workplace discrimination based on gender identity or sexual orientation
      Extended work authorizations and deportation deferrals for select immigrants until at least June 2022
      Attended the Virtual Presidential Inaugural Prayer Service alongside the first lady, vice president and second gentleman
      Held the first White House press briefing led by the press secretary, Jen Psaki
      Announced new executive orders to expand Covid-19 testing
      Renovated the Oval Office, replacing interior decorations and adding a bust of Latino civil rights leader Cesar Chavez, as well as a portrait of Benjamin Franklin
      Implemented White House Covid-19 precautions including mask wearing, frequent testing and new social distancing measures.
      Transportation Secretary nominee Pete Buttigieg began nomination hearings with the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation committee
      Delivered additional calls for national unity with speeches by president and vice president at inauguration night concert
      Created plans to host congressional leaders this week from both parties at the White House
      Scheduled themed days for the next week to focus on specific policy priorities, including “economic relief”, “Buy America”, “Equity”, “Climate”, “Health Care”, “Immigration” and “Restoring America’s Place in the World”.
      Prepared plans to overturn key Trump administration abortion policy restricting funding for overseas abortion providers
      Redesigned the White House website to be more inclusive, with language translations and additional accessibility options
      Ended the Trump administration’s Migrant Protection Protocols Policy, otherwise known as the Remain in Mexico policy
      Sent a comprehensive immigration bill to Congress to further undo the previous administration’s legacy
      Placed a moratorium on oil and gas leasing in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
      Added gender-neutral pronoun options to the online White House contact form
      Fired Trump-appointed labor board general Peter Robb
      Established interagency group on societal impact of carbon pollution
      Asked Environmental Protection Agency to immediately reconsider methane regulations
      Announced intention to revoke transgender military ban
      Designated Domestic Policy Council Susan Rice to spearhead “robust, interagency” effort towards “rooting out systemic racism” in federal agencies.
      Proposed new Covid-19 national strategy
      Encouraged Congress to grant special waiver for defense secretary nominee Lloyd J Austin III
      Named acting Cabinet members until nominees slate can ben confirmed
      Withdrew previous administration’s order limiting diversity trainings
      Ordered federal agencies to develop plans to address “barriers to equal opportunity” in the next 200 days
      Suspended all gas development projects at national wildlife monuments
      Restructured immigration arrest priorities for ICE
      Re-examine federal funding to ensure equitable distribution in communities of color and low income areas
      Directed agencies to “consider revising vehicle fuel economic and emissions standards”
      Froze all last-minute regulatory actions taken by the previous administration
      Stopped referring to immigrants as “aliens” in paperwork and started using the word “non-citizens” instead
      New National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan held introductory calls with France, Germany, the UK and Japan stressing the administration’s “intention to strengthen the transatlantic alliance”
      Created pathway to $15 national minimum wage via executive order
      Promoted expansion of federal workers’ rights vira executive order
      Sought to reduce hunger and increase food expansion for needy Americans via executive order
      Plans reported to resume processing thousands of stalled visas for select Afghans
      Ordered Treasury Department to identify Americans still awaiting stimulus payments
      Rescinded Schedule F for federal workers
      Included language in executive order encouraging schools to allow transgender athletes in girls’ sports
      Signed 10 additional executive orders on Thursday targeting Covid-19 relief, vaccine rollout and further reopening plans
      Established the Covid-19 Pandemic Testing Board to focus on expansion of test kits and access
      Issued memo directing Fema to increase federal reimbursement for National Guard costs to states and tribes
      Ordered Department of Education and Health and Human Services to create guidance for safe reopening of campuses
      Ordered Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) to provide guidance for employees on how to reduce risk of exposure to Covid-19
      Issued executive order requiring face masks in airports and other certain modes of transportation
      Signed directive which “restores US leadership and seeks to support the international health and humanitarian response to the Covid-19 pandemic”
      Senate Finance Committee meets to confirm Janet Yellen, who would be the first female Treasury secretary in American history
      Announced plans to build a “national resource” making Covid-19 information “easier and more transparent” for Americans during the vaccine rollout
      Established preclinical program for expansion of therapeutics in pandemic threats
      Invoked Defense Production Act to help increase vaccine supply by 20 per cent nationwide
      Issued executive order laying groundwork to require federal workers offer emergency paid leave
      Announced plans to roll back three previous order from the Trump administration targeting collective bargaining protections
      Senate confirmed Biden’s defense secretary, General Lloyd Austin, after granting waiver, making him the nation’s first black defense secretary
      Designated Jessica Rosenworcel to serve as acting FCC chairperson
      Began receiving daily intelligence briefings, as well as joint briefings with the vice president on economic recovery efforts

    121. Gordon Allen says:

      Romney is sick with envy Trump made it to the WH and he didn’t. And sick with anger over being publicly passed over for SOS. And,well …sick.
      He knows he’s dead in Republcan politics,and in Utah. What a mean spirited low life he is

    122. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil- You said you are not coming back. That is unfortunate. But if you won’t vote, I have to find a voter to replace you. It would be better to get you AND another voter but you won’t engage.

    123. lisab says:

      #120 i’m astounded

    124. Phil says:

      Romney is the lowest of the low.

      Difference between Romney and most of the rest of the Republican Senate Caucus. He hates Trump and says so. The Republican Senate Caucus hates him and the bulk of Republicans who supported him. They are just a bit more subtle about it since they know they will need their votes in 2022.

      They won’t get them.

    125. Phil says:

      No problem, bitter. There are tons of them in the suburbs. All of them just chomping at the bit to vote for Romney, Sasse and company. Robbie said so.

    126. jason says:

      So when I say that I want Trump’s base to STAY in the GOP, it really means I don’t want them to stay in the GOP? Are you serious?”

      Yeah, I am, because you ALWAYS side against them in any argument here.

      GFY.

    127. jason says:

      But I don’t really care, and I think the wing of the R party that disparages the Trump voters will win out in the end, because they are in positions of power.

    128. jason says:

      Bitter says he wants the base to stay in the R party, but yet he defends Romney here at every opportunity. And any other small tent R too. Nikki Haley can shamelessly pander to BLM, Bitter will jump up to defend her. Have you read anything he said negative about Sasse and all the other Rs who are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome.

      Even Liz Cheney is not a bridge too far.

      So spare me the “I want the Trump base to stay in the R party”. Empty words.

    129. Phil says:

      Word for word from the US Constitution. Article !, Section 3.

      ‘When the President of the United States is tried by the Senate, the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court shall preside”

      So on what basis does that allow Roberts to preside over this show trial? Is Trump the President or is he not?

      Splain it to me, Lucy.

    130. Phil says:

      Very empty words.

    131. Phil says:

      Romney today on impeachment.

      ‘You need accountability in order to get to unity”

      He thinks trying an Ex President is going to bring unity?

      No, dumbass. That will do just the opposite.

    132. jason says:

      Bitter wants the votes of the deplorables, as long as they vote “the right way”.

      I agree that many are going to give that a big GFY like I am.

    133. Phil says:

      Votes? No, but a helluva lot of middle fingers.

    134. jason says:

      Other names Romney mentioned as potential definers of the GOP brand on CNN and Fox this morning: Gov. Larry Hogan (x2) and Sen. Ben Sasse.

      Romney gives a shoutout to CHRIS CHRISTIE as representing the future of the Republican Party in CNN intvw with @DanaBashCNN.”

      So Bitter, should the Trump base be seeking “common ground” with these people?

    135. jason says:

      Bitter, I think anyone voting for or supporting impeachment in the R party should be immediately purged from the party.

      I think 99% of the Trump base would agree.

      I am also sure 99% of them would want nothing to do with any of these people, and there will never be any “common ground” with them.

      What say you?

    136. jason says:

      Bitter says he wants the Trump base to “stay in the party”

      Let’s see if he actually supports the steps needed to do that.

    137. Phil says:

      ‘Common ground”. Well, my guess is that bitter would say the common ground is that you and I share “common ground” with Romney, Sasse, and Hogan due to the fact none of us call ourselves Democrats. That is enough for bitter to paper over everything.

      ……and that in itself is the real indicator that he flat doesn’t get it.

    138. jason says:

      Since Bitter thinks these people are “better than Democrats” he won’t mind purging them from the party, since they will continue to vote “conservative” in Congress.

      Win-win.

    139. Bitterlaw says:

      I am glad that Look at Me! Jason found a friend – Look at Me! Phil.

      You want to purge a party you no longer belong to? If you don’t vote in primaries, how do you plan to do that? Tell me how electing Democrats helps conservatives.

    140. Bitterlaw says:

      We live in a system where the Democrat or the Republican will win. We do not live in a Parliamentary system. The Look at Me! A-holes flat out don’t get it.

    141. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason lies and claims I want a small tent GOP but Jason is the only one trying to purge the GOP to make it smaller.

    142. jason says:

      You want to purge a party you no longer belong to?”

      No. I could care less.

      I was just illustrating that any attack on Romney will immediately get you to defend him.

      And of course, purging Romney would make the party bigger, not smaller. You think Romney supporters are the future of the party? Or as Romney suggests, Christie? You are the one that doesn’t get it.

    143. Phil says:

      Hmmm. Romney, Sasse, Hogan. Hell of a party you got there, bitter. Romney and Sasse voting to convict a Republican President no longer in office. How does that exactly differentiate them from Democrats? Of course, the whole sham is just designed to serve as an example to the “‘deplorables” they smugly look down on. In other words, You rubes better get to the back of the bus and shut up. We run things and don’t you forget it.

      Unfortunately, for the establishment Republicans, their sham trial just ensures that we actually won’t forget…and that’s bad news in future elections…for the DC Republican frauds.

    144. Phil says:

      For the record, I’m not interested in GOP purges either. I’m well past that.

    145. jason says:

      Jason lies and claims I want a small tent GOP”

      I don’t think you “want” a small tent GOP. I think you want the GOP to win.

      I just think that is the result of what you believe in for the future of the party.

      But I don’t think you have to worry. People that think like you will prevail. Those that think like me will lose out. And many will not vote.

    146. jason says:

      it is obvious which side Bitter prefers.

      But he calls pointing that out a “lie”.

    147. jason says:

      Hell of a party you got there, bitter. Romney and Sasse voting to convict a Republican President no longer in office. How does that exactly differentiate them from Democrats?”

      What? You don’t think there is some “common ground” there?

      Come on, man.

    148. jason says:

      Tell me how electing Democrats helps conservatives.”

      Tell me how electing, or supporting, Mitt Romney, is going to grow the party among the people Rs need to win elections?

    149. Bitterlaw says:

      Look at Me! Phil should find a single post where I have ever even typed the name Hogan let alone said he is the future of the GOP. While he is looking, he may come upon the hundreds of posts where I said I disagree with impeachment so I certainly do not agree with Romney on that issue.

      Jason – The correct expression is I could not care less. Since you are going to make thousands of posts about something you claim to not care about, at least get it right.

    150. jason says:

      Phil, I think we need to let Bitter attend his “how not to be a racist” indoctrination classes (also known as NFL games) and we can let him explain how Romney is going to grow the party later.

    151. jason says:

      Bitter, I could care less how you want me to write how i could care less.

    152. jason says:

      Merriam-Webster treats the phrases couldn’t care less and could care less as synonymous, both meaning “not concerned or interested at all.” “Couldn’t care less” is the older and more obvious phrase grammatically, but it has been confused for so long that both are now defined. Additionally, the example sentence “it’s impossible that [I] could care less” is the same as the intended meaning.”

      Bitter hardest hit.

    153. Bitterlaw says:

      Romney’s future is in the hands of the voters of Utah. I only voted for him in 2012. I disagree with him on impeachment. I do not want him replaced by a Democrat. If Utah can send a more conservative Senator to DC, they should.

      Jason answered the question he wanted to answer but not my question. How does electing Democrats advance conservatism? He used to mock Julstol for not being able to answer that question. Of course, Jason was willing to let Hillary win in 2016. The poster willing to let Hillary win is now the one who should decide who should be purged from the Republican party? I love this place.

    154. jason says:

      Look at Me! Phil”

      Zzzzz…

      Phil is one of the more unassuming and humble posters here.

      Your assumption that people that think like he does somehow just want attention is another clue on how out of touch you are.

    155. Bitterlaw says:

      Look at Me! Jason does not watch NFL games. He just watches highlights later. What a man of conviction. It’s like the girl who is a virgin 6 days a week.

    156. Bitterlaw says:

      For people who could not care less, Phil and Jason make a lot of posts about how much they don’t care.

    157. jason says:

      Jason answered the question he wanted to answer but not my question. How does electing Democrats advance conservatism?”

      Zzzzz…

      Where did I ever say I want to elect Democrats. You make up a bogus position and then want me to defend the bogus premise?

      Now answer how does supporting Mitt Romney grow the R party with the people that the party needs to win elections?

    158. jason says:

      For someone who claims he wants to grow the party, Bitter sure spends a lot of time defending people who don’t want to grow the party.

    159. Phil says:

      I’m not, and hundreds of thousands like me, aren’t giving my vote or money to a bunch of smug elitists that look down their nose at me, openly mock me, and declare themselves morally superior to me just because they call themselves Republicans.

      Is that clear enough for you bitter?

    160. jason says:

      It’s like the girl who is a virgin 6 days a week.”

      While you are a whore 7 days a week?

      Ok.

    161. Phil says:

      Romney actually stated today that a post election “trial” of Donald Trump will lead to unity.

      I can’t even find the words …

    162. jason says:

      Phil, Bitter mocks people like you while he “grows the party”.

    163. Phil says:

      Every day there is less daylight between bitter and Robbie.

      That’s disappointing.

    164. jason says:

      Bitter supports the woke NFL, and eats up being schooled by spoiled millionaire leftist talking heads, players, coaches and owners on how he is a scumbag and a racist for, what, 20 hours a week?

      But I am a whore because I watch about 10 minutes of highlights a week?

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    165. jason says:

      Every day there is less daylight between bitter and Robbie.”

      That IS sad.

    166. jason says:

      I’m not, and hundreds of thousands like me, aren’t giving my vote or money to”

      I bet it is in the millions.

      But Bitter is going to make it up with his Biden voting friends and neighbors, no problem.

      Of course, he hasn’t explained how THESE people are helping the R party by voting for Biden.

      Yet he mocks us, who were loyal supporters of the R party for decades, not only with votes, but with money and work.

      He thinks this is a good trade. So be it.

      When I read his comments, it only reinforces my view that I want nothing to do with his R party.

    167. jason says:

      Uh oh, no longer a virgin for today.

      I says a banner across my screen that says Packers are down 21-10.

      I sold out my soul, I read it.

    168. jason says:

      I saw, not I says.

      Bitter might try to correct my English again, although after Merriam Webster corrected him, maybe he is gun shy.

    169. Bitterlaw says:

      Show me where I supported Romney’s statements. You can’t but I will wait.

      If I was like Robbie, why would I have spent months trying to get Jason and Phil to STAY in the party and grow it? Robbie wants you out. I don’t.

      Jason says he does not want to elect Democrats. He just won’t vote for Republicans even though that adds one net vote to the Dem. Just like in 2016 when he did not want Hillary to win but thought that NOT against her was a smart strategy.

    170. Bitterlaw says:

      The dictionary chose to surrender a clear cut rule to curry favor with those who violated it. Are they going to accept irregardless next? Maybe they already did.

    171. Phil says:

      Nope, nothing to do with the Republican Party either…and that includes participating in their primaries. It’s not just the drivel I here from Liz, Mitt, Toomey, Kasich, Sasse and the usual suspects. It’s what you don’t here…from so called “conservatives” like Thune, Cornyn, etc regarding open censorship of conservative thought. No pushback whatsoever on media leftist propaganda. Crickets.

      But the final nail was what these smug “Republicans” have said about me and people I know and respect. I’m not having any more of it.

    172. jason says:

      The dictionary chose to surrender a clear cut rule to curry favor with those who violated it.”

      LOL

      Merriam Webster is wrong. Bitter is right.

    173. Phil says:

      hear

    174. jason says:

      Show me where I supported Romney’s statements”

      Ah, nice moving of the goalposts.

      Statements? Zzzzzzzz….

      You support Romney here all the time.

    175. Phil says:

      Very telling cartoon…but it would be the same message if you changed Biden’s face to any number of the usual “Republican” suspects mentioned above. No difference.

    176. Bitterlaw says:

      My three Biden voting friends also voted straight R down ballot. They should not have voted for Biden.

      I have typed hundreds of posts that the GOP needs people like Phil and Jason. What more can I say? They gave more money than I did. They did a lot of work to support the party. Which is why I cannot understand why they are willing to let Democrats win now. Be honest with the consequences of not voting. If the Republican loses the Democrat wins. That is our system. Phil and Jason should support candidates within the party or bring candidates to the party to improve it.

    177. jason says:

      Jeff Charles gets it, Bitter doesn’t:

      “Secondly, Biden knows what all Democrats know: They can do whatever they want because they don’t have any real competition for black votes. However, this might change soon if the Republican Party finally wakes up and takes a cue from President Trump. If the GOP finally starts taking black voters seriously, the Democrats will see less support from the black community in the future.

      It is worth noting that the GOP’s approach to minority communities will be determined by the faction that wins dominance on the right. If the Republican aristocracy entrenched in the establishment remains, the party will continue ignoring the black community. Conversely, if the non-establishment bloc wrenches power from the Mitt Romney/Liz Cheney wing of the party, the GOP might just start moving in the right direction.”

    178. jason says:

      If the Republican aristocracy entrenched in the establishment remains, the party will continue ignoring the black community. Conversely, if the non-establishment bloc wrenches power from the Mitt Romney/Liz Cheney wing of the party, the GOP might just start moving in the right direction.”

      Unfortunately, won’t happen.

    179. jason says:

      There is no “common ground”

      One side has to win.

      The smart money is on the tiny tent Rs.

    180. lisab says:

      Look at Me! Phil should find a single post where I have ever even typed the name Hogan let alone said he is the future of the GOP.
      ————————————–

      “Hogan in 2024? Sure. I would consider it. Because Trump has no core ideology, there is no Trumpism. Whether Trump wins or loses in 2020, there is no Trump heir in 2024.”

    181. jason says:

      “The GOP’s approach to minority communities will be determined by the faction that wins dominance on the right.”

      That’s it. And working class people. And small business owners.

      Following the Mitt Romneys is suicidal.

      I don’t have to have a dog in the fight to see that.

    182. lisab says:

      but he is not dismissive of you jason and phil

      if you trump cultists were not so stupid he would be able to explain why your concerns are unfounded

    183. jason says:

      there is no Trumpism.”

      Unfortunately, I think Bitter believes that.

      It is wrong.

    184. Bitterlaw says:

      Then the Democrats win. Jason, it is clear we don’t agree. Can you please have the decency to stop lying about my position? I want the biggest possible GOP. I want to build upon what Trump started with voters drawn to him. I have advocated reaching out to minority voters since 2004. I can not state it more clearly and no matter how many times you spin it, my position is clear.

      I have said that I am staying until the end at HHR. Honestly. it becomes more and more difficult every day with lisab’s relentless contempt and geographical ignorance. Now I read posts that state the complete opposite of what I write. Still, there is no fee lunch. I will endure the lies. There is no honor among A-holes.

    185. Bitterlaw says:

      Free not fee

    186. Bitterlaw says:

      I don’t remember the Hogan post but there it is. If he wins the nomination then I have to support him in the General Election or concede to President Harris without opposition.

    187. Bitterlaw says:

      Define Trumpism. I liked his judicial picks and the tax cut. He supported Israel. I did not agree with his trade policies and neither did Jason.

    188. jason says:

      I agree Trump is not ideological. But that doesn’t mean he can’t have a following.

      That is why the “Trump followers are cultists” meme is BS.

    189. jason says:

      Can you please have the decency to stop lying about my position?”

      I have not lied about your position. You can’t have it both ways.

      It is true that we don’t agree.

      It is also true that you should be happy since I think your view will prevail, not mine.

    190. Bitterlaw says:

      28-23 Tampa lead to start the 4th. If Jason wants to watch, I won’t tell anybody.

      As for me, I have to coach the boys team at 6:30. Then watching Buffalo-KC. I have also resumed working in my novel. It should be finished this week. My wife has 2 friends who are writers so I will ask them for the names of their agents.

      Lisab to say the novel sucks in 3…Forget it. She won’t wait until 1.

    191. jason says:

      Define Trumpism”

      But noooo, Bitter does not disparage Trump supporters….

      Geezus.

    192. jason says:

      Thanks for the update. I will sell my soul to the NFL tomorrow and watch the highlights.

    193. Cash Cow TM says:

      Was only listening with one ear…but the radio news said Israel has closed the Ben-Gay Airport due to high cases of COVID.

      Nancy Pelosi (the witch who calls for unity but tore her copy of Trump’s SOTU speech in two page by page) is adding Israel’s closure of The Ben-Gay Airport to the list of impeachment charges for Trump.

      She is also accusing Trump of instigating the riots in the Netherlands over the closure of the economy there due to COVID–and adding that to the impeachment charges.

      Why?
      Why not.

    194. Bitterlaw says:

      I have said that the GOP has to build upon and include the working class, small business owners, and minorities attracted to Trump in addition to the more traditional Republicans. How do you interpret that to mean I want a smaller party. You even said that you would not “write off the suburbs but don’t see it as the future of the party.” I don’t think we disagree as much as you claim.

    195. jason says:

      Trumpism is defined by the “put America first” meme.

      First in trade. First in manufacturing. First in military power. First in energy. First in everything.

      I believe “Trumpism” is protectionist and isolationist in its essence. I don’t consider myself a Trumpist, but to deny its appeal to a huge sector of the electorate is foolish.

    196. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason says Trump is not ideological. I ask for a definition of Trumpism (meaning what attracts his base to him) and somehow that is disparaging. If Trump himself does not run in 2024 then it is important to identify and build upon those factors/idea.

      Brady just tossed his third interception of the half.

    197. jason says:

      How do you interpret that to mean I want a smaller party.”

      I already said I don’t think you want that.

      But your support for the R establishment that is doing all it can to alienate those groups is incompatible with any rhetoric about growing the party.

      You have to decide which side you want to support.

    198. lisab says:

      robbies’s side

    199. Bitterlaw says:

      TB makes FG. 31-23 lead with 4:42 left.

    200. jason says:

      I have said that the GOP has to build upon and include the working class, small business owners, and minorities attracted to Trump in addition to the more traditional Republicans.”

      And let’s be honest here.

      I am the one that has been talking about the working class, small business owners, and minorities attracted to Trump while you have been mostly talking about “regaining the suburbs”.

      Fair is fair.

    201. Bitterlaw says:

      Lisab does not speak for me. I have explained my position. Jason says it is not possible.

    202. Bitterlaw says:

      Fair is fair. I believe the GOP can do both. I am going to try to do that. You don’t think it is possible.

      GB 3rd and goal

    203. lisab says:

      You don’t think it is possible.
      —————–

      so you speak for jason?

    204. Bitterlaw says:

      31-26

    205. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason said it is not possible.

    206. jason says:

      “Doing both” is a cop out and really means follow the GOP establishment and ignore the Trump supporters except for “hoping” to get their vote.

      The future of the GOP is not Romney or Hogan or Christie, that is really asinine, but whatever.

      Personally I elect to do neither. Let the civil war begin and the GOP implode. They deserve it.

    207. jason says:

      Had the GOP united and at least stood against fraud, how hard is that, maybe I would have felt differently. Instead many took the Robbie Goebbels approach, fraud is fine as long as it is against Trump.

      The fact they didn’t really means the GOP is not interested in a future that includes the Trump supporters and the new voters Trump brought in, and it also means I have no interest in supporting such a party.

      Bitter can talk about “common ground”, “doing both”, “unity” but it is all empty words, means nothing.

    208. jason says:

      I am glad I placed no bets on the Packers game, I was pretty sure they would win.

      I will comment tomorrow after I sell out to whomever shows highlights.

    209. jason says:

      Still alive on the Bills winning the SB.

      Well maybe, for all I know the Chiefs are already ahead 20-0.

    210. lisab says:

      Biden to Reverse Trump’s Ban on Transgender Military Members: Report

    211. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Looks like a majority of voters do not support Biden cancelling the Keystone pipeline project. The action did not even get majority support in the Morning Consult poll, despite the language used to describe the project.

      +Joe Biden has promised he will cancel the Keystone XL Pipeline project that would transport oil from Canada to the United States. Is cancelling the pipeline a good idea or a bad idea?
      Good idea 36%
      Bad idea 51%
      @Rasmussen_Poll, LV, 1/19-20

      +Revoking a permit for the Keystone XL pipeline, a 1,200 mile oil pipeline that would link Canadian tar sands with oil refineries in the Gulf of Mexico:
      Support 43%
      Oppose 32%
      @MorningConsult, RV, 1/20-21

      If Biden continues to pander to a radical fringe of vocal supporters, he is headed towards a one term presidency.

    212. jason says:

      Dr. Rachel Levine will join provided they make her a general.

    213. jason says:

      ‘he is headed towards a one term presidency.”

      Nah. VBM will come to the rescue.

    214. jason says:

      Btw, on Predictit, “We all need to feel the pain or you are a racist Haley” is a one pt favorite over Trump for the R nomination.

      Btw, Tucker Carlson is only 1 pt behind Rubio, Hawley and Romney and tied with Cotton and Noem and way ahead of Larry Hogan.

    215. jason says:

      Biden won’t run for re-election.

      Taking bets.

    216. jason says:

      DeSantis-Tim Scott might be a ticket that would lose by less than other tickets.

    217. Bitterlaw says:

      My high school boys team won 57-54 in Overtime. Lisab to say a good coach would have won by 40 in regulation.

    218. Bitterlaw says:

      Why is Tony Romo able to predict every play as an announce but could not win anything as a player?

    219. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      216. “VBM will come to the rescue.”

      California Republicans picked up four congressional seats with VBM; it is time for national Republicans to get on top of the issue. They should have done so last year, but instead just focused on election day voting (which was likely impacted by the epidemic). VBM is not going away; I have not voted in person in California for well over a decade.

      Utah, where I will soon be a voter, uses VBM and the Republicans picked up the only remaining Democratic congressional seat. Here is NPR story in which the newly elected Republican Utah governor defends voting by mail.

      https://www.npr.org/2020/10/06/920859123/lessons-other-states-might-learn-from-utahs-success-with-mail-in-ballots

    220. jason says:

      Republican Utah governor defends voting by mail.

      Zzzzzz……Utah….are you really that naive?

      Obviously you could have an honest VBM. “Could”.

      But in most states we don’t have an honest VBM, it is just an avenue for fraud. Here in PA it was DESIGNED for fraud.

      So “getting on top of it” won’t help. Unless you can prevent the fraud, Rs are screwed.

    221. Bitterlaw says:

      I think the debate over Was Belichik or Brady more responsible for the Patriots success? is pretty settled.

    222. jason says:

      And of course the Dems are not going to accept any
      suggestion from Utah’s “success with VBM”.

    223. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      By the way, in California and many other states, a voter goes to the polling station and signs in on the voter roster. No ID is required. The voter then is given a blank ballot that is filled out and put in a ballot box; once deposited there is no way to trace the ballot back to an individual voter.

      A mail ballot by contrast, is sent back with an signature on the envelope, that can be verified as that of the voter prior to the envelope being opened and the ballot counted. All mail ballots are now sent with a return envelope with a stamp on it, which allows the voter to easily mail the ballot back — it has greatly diminished ballot harvesting.

    224. jason says:

      I think Rs have to fight VBM every step of the way.

      SDC’s idea that Rs should embrace it will just put another nail in their coffin.

    225. Cash Cow TM says:

      Bitter,

      Congrats on notching another win in your belt.

      I had a dream last night that lisab thinks you somehow sneaked into her home and peed on her Post Toasties while she wasn’t looking.

      I think that is why she has been going to war with anything you say. I bet she had the same dream.

    226. Bitterlaw says:

      I can’t explain it Cash Cow. I know I never snapped her bra since she said she doesn’t always wear one.

    227. jason says:

      ” sent back with an signature on the envelope, that can be verified as that of the voter”

      By whom, corrupt and partisan election officials?

      All mail ballots are now sent with a return envelope with a stamp on it,”

      Wow, so convenient, but it does not prevent ballot harvesting.

    228. Bitterlaw says:

      The good news for the Bills is they have scored on 5 possessions. The bad news is they only have 15 points. KC has 31.

    229. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      223. “So “getting on top of it” won’t help. Unless you can prevent the fraud, Rs are screwed.”

      Isn’t that the point? You get on top of it by designing the system to have safeguards so that it prevents fraud. VBM is not going away; its time to make sure it works correctly.

      In Georgia, as example, with a Republican governor and seven other Republicans in executive office, and with both houses of the legislature with solid Republican majorities, there is not reason a VBM system could not be developed that would have appropriate safeguards and prevent fraud.

      VBM is not going away; and attempts to stop it are going to be as successful as the attempt to preserve the horse and buggy system a century ago.

    230. Bitterlaw says:

      The Green Bay coach is getting roasted for kicking a field goal when his team was down by 8 near the end of the game instead of letting Rodgers go for it on 4th and goal. The real heat should be on Rodgers for not running it in on third down when the defenders were split wide and he had a big hole in front of him.

    231. Bitterlaw says:

      Future Hall of Fame Coach Andy Reid headed back to the Super Bowl.

      Jason hardest hit.

    232. Phil says:

      Super Bowl?

      Zzzzzzzzzz

      Just call it the woke bowl. The commercials put together by corporate America are going to be nauseating.

    233. Bitterlaw says:

      Should be a great game. Bet the over.

    234. Wes says:

      So, the Left and unity:

      https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/entertainment/jim-carrey-melania-trump-political-art-worst-first-lady.amp

      English has a word for this. It starts with an “h” and ends with a “y.”

    235. Bitterlaw says:

      Other than breakfast, is there anything fun in your life, Phil? And that question is being asked by me – the person lisab is trying to derail from running from office.by going to tell my opponent I am crazy.

    236. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes – Did you want me to expand upon last night’s lesson on the government structure and geographic areas of Radnor Township?

    237. lisab says:

      My high school boys team won 57-54 in Overtime. Lisab to say a good coach would have won by 40 in regulation.
      —————————-

      no, lisa would say you should focus on being a coach

    238. Wes says:

      Biden has the worst beginning for a President of anyone in my lifetime.

    239. Bitterlaw says:

      It is a volunteer position and we have a shortened 8 week season due to COVID.

    240. Phil says:

      Lots of things, bitter. The woke NFL just doesn’t happen to be one of them.

    241. lisab says:

      It is a volunteer position and we have a shortened 8 week season due to COVID.
      ———————————

      definitely more your speed

    242. Phil says:

      Agree, Wes….and that’s even with the MSM waving pompoms nonstop.

    243. jason says:

      Should be a great game”

      Phil, evidently the Socialist Team will run into the “all whites are racist” painted end zone more times than the Inclusion Team will run into the end zone painted “reparations now”.

    244. jason says:

      In between, viewers will be entertained by dozens of woke ads telling them they are the scum of humanity for watching.

    245. jason says:

      “In Georgia, as example, with a Republican governor and seven other Republicans in executive office, and with both houses of the legislature with solid Republican majorities, there is not reason a VBM system could not be developed that would have appropriate safeguards and prevent fraud.

      VBM is not going away; and attempts to stop it are going to be as successful as the attempt to preserve the horse and buggy system a century ago”

      SDC destroys his own argument.

      In a state with a R Gov and SOS and an R legislature VBM was rife with fraud.

      So you can imagine what happens in Dem states.

    246. jason says:

      SDC is probably right that VBM won’t be stopped.

      So fraud won’t be stopped either.

    247. jason says:

      here is not reason a VBM system could not be developed that would have appropriate safeguards and prevent fraud.”

      I think SDC must believe in the tooth fairy too.

    248. jason says:

      Other than breakfast, is there anything fun in your life, Phil?”

      I think he is implying that the NFL must be fun.

      If it WAS fun for me, I would watch it.

      Speaking of breakfast, looking forward to some good Amish scrapple in another 7 hours or so.

    249. lisab says:

      California discovers homegrown coronavirus strain that spreads even faster than any other

    250. lisab says:

      ‘Jim Crow Relic’: Progressives Ramp Up Efforts to Finally Get Rid of Filibuster | On the Filibuster: Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez: “A Cherished Tool of Segragationists”; former President Barack Obama: “Jim Crow Relic”; and ex-Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid: “Outlived Its Usefulness.”

    251. Bitterlaw says:

      Keep calling me a loser, lisab. Take good notes. Rep. Scanlon is counting on your report to try to destroy my campaign.

    252. lisab says:

      U.S. carrier group enters South China Sea amid Taiwan tensions

    253. Bitterlaw says:

      Since I am not a racist, being called a racist has no impact on me. Of course, why Phil and Jason claim to know what goes on during NFL broadcasts is curious. They sound like liberals who condemn Fox News even though they have never watched a second of Fox News.

    254. lisab says:

      Keep calling me a loser
      —————————

      i’m implying you could be a good coach

      you have lots of experience.

    255. Phil says:

      I don’t think it’s exactly a secret where Goodell and his friends have taken the NFL, bitter. Give us a break.

    256. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Rumblings are that Rick Grenell, Trump’s former ambassador to Germany, may run for governor in the Newsom recall election.

      With Faulconer and Grenell splitting the Republican vote, its possible that two Democrats will finish first & second and go into a run-off, if Newsom is recalled. The 1st part of the election will be whether to recall Newsom, the second part will be who replaces him. If no candidate gets over 50%, the top two go into a run-off.

    257. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      254. “Keep calling me a loser, lisab. Take good notes. Rep. Scanlon is counting on your report to try to destroy my campaign.”

      But we all know a hacker took over your HHR handle, and posted under your name. There is a rumor Putin
      instigated it. Someone with the first name of Natasha was involved, who is stationed somewhere in Minnesota. Her KGB code name is “Agent Foam Party.”

    258. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      According to Goldman Sachs, the old fool Biden by banning oil drilling on federal land and restrict building of pipelines is likely going to cause an increase in the price of oil — so gas prices will be going up, which likely will cause other prices to rise as well.

      “Goldman’s summary, which could say is obvious: “policies to support energy demand but restrict hydrocarbon production (or increase costs of drilling and financing) will prove inflationary in coming years given the still negligible share of transportation demand coming from EVs (and renewables).”

      Am sure the return of $4.00 a gallon gas will cause a lot of voters to question why they voted for Biden. We may witness a repeat of Jimmy Carter’s disastrous energy policies.

    259. michael corleone says:

      The country will not exist long term with VBM. Too many people will rightfully feel disenfranchised and then will resort to more drastic remedies

    260. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Its amazing how the threat of a recall changed Gov. Newsom’s science-based decision to impose a lockdown in California. From Fox News 5 Capitol Correspondent Ashley Zavala.

      “@ZavalaA
      JUST IN: Multiple sources tell me Governor Newsom will lift the stay at home order on all regions in California tomorrow.

      All counties will go back to the tier system, sources say. Most will return to the purple tier— allowing the reopening of outdoor dining, indoor salons.”

    261. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      262. Does this mean we get a second clown show at the federal Capitol building? The first one reminded me of an insane asylum break out (or break in).

    262. jason says:

      Ok I watched the Packers Bucs highlights.

      1) Rodgers had an easy path to just slide in for the TD, instead he makes a bad throw to a guy who was double covered. WTF was Rodgers thinking?

      2) Packers coach goes for FG which still leaves him 5 down, when he has Aaron Rodgers on the 4 yard line with a possibility of tying the game. Even if he doesn’t score, he pins the Bucs deep and likely gets the ball back in good field position. WTF was the coach thinking?

      3) Horrible PI call on Brady’s pass with 2 minute left, basically calling the game. Nothing the defender did kept the receiver from catching the ball, that is the definition of “interference”. WTF was the ref thinking?

    263. jason says:

      Of course, why Phil and Jason claim to know what goes on during NFL broadcasts is curious.”

      https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2020/sep/28/save-us-from-woke-sports/?opinion

    264. jason says:

      Also, no way Brady should have scored that TD at the end of the half with

      WTF was the Packer’s defender thinking letting the receiver get behind him. Even if you allow a catch at least you can tackle him inbound and run out the clock.

    265. jason says:

      The country will not exist long term with VBM.”

      The country will exist. The R party probably won’t be winning a lot of elections.

      SDC is dreaming if he thinks Dems have any interest in, as he put it, a VBM system that could be be developed that would have appropriate safeguards and prevent fraud.

      That would defeat its purpose.

    266. jason says:

      I was thinking about what Bitter said, that I was selling out by watching NFL highlights. My excuse was that highlights did not have woke messages, but actually they do, there are messages plastered all over the stadiums. Plus I am indirectly supporting the league by hitting on sites with highlights.

      So next season no more highlights, but I will still read Bitter’s updates here as long as he doesn’t call me a racist at the same time.

      Bitter may be a spoilsport, literally, but he is right on this one.

    267. Gordon Allen says:

      Biden at 48-47 after 5 days in office with a supportive press. Not good at all.

    268. Wobbles says:

      48 is the new 60.

    269. jason says:

      Unfortunately, you will no longer be able to get hard hitting investigative reporting from CNN at airports anymore.

      The first dogs have entered the White House — the Bidens’ two German shepherds, Champ and Major, officially joined the first family in their new residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue on Sunday.

      “The First Family wanted to get settled before bringing the dogs down to Washington from Delaware. Champ is enjoying his new dog bed by the fireplace, and Major loved running around on the South Lawn,” First Lady Jill Biden’s press secretary Michael LaRosa told CNN in a statement Monday.

      The Bidens’ dogs moving in marks a return to a longstanding tradition of Presidents and their families bringing their pets with them to the White House. Former President Donald Trump and his family did not have any pets for the four years they lived in the White House.”

    270. jason says:

      Bitter can use me as a character reference that he is not crazy.

      I can testify that I attended more than 100 Philly A-hole Club meetings and never saw Bitter act crazy in any of them.

      Of course, it can’t get out that I am from York. If Bitter sends me the money (only $250) I will wear this sweater for the interview, and even have a lapel message ‘Racism is Evil” sewn on.

      https://fahertybrand.com/products/heritage-motif-cardigan-dark-palm-isle?variant=31757722976325

    271. Chicon says:

      Bitter – I’ve been reading the back and forth between you and Jason and Phil. Much of it has gotten well past the silly mark, with obvious mischaracterizations of positions (that has been the modus operandi of this board for a long time) and personal putdowns.

      That said, there are two points made that I wanted to emphasize for your upcoming campaign. The first is a question you asked is “what is Trumpism”? It is unfortunate that you need to ask this 5 years after he’s been on the scene. This should be clear by now, as Trump is who he is. If you don’t know what he stands for, you also don’t know what his voters loved about him. That seems like you don’t care to know. Asking for votes from people whose concern you haven’t cared to understand rings hollow, imo. Which leads to the second.

      Your reaction to the turncoat Republicans has been revealing. You understand them, unlike the Trumpers. You think they are automatically better than any Democrat. The people who you want to continue to vote Republican vehemently disagree with them. They think those Republicans are the Benedict Arnold of the party.

      Here’s an article on the topic if your mind and heart are open.

      https://redstate.com/darth641/2021/01/25/opinion-for-conservatives-our-republican-allies-are-far-more-dangerous-than-our-leftist-enemies-n315806

    272. jason says:

      Yep, when I said “asking what Trumpism was” is disparaging Trump voters Bitter’s feathers were ruffled.

      Chicon makes a good point on why that is true.

    273. jason says:

      Bitter likes the sound bite, “how can purging people from the party make it bigger”, but it is actually nonsense.

      People like Romney and Liz Cheney are keeping the party from getting bigger. How are they growing the party if they are alienating millions of voters that Rs need to win over?

    274. Phil says:

      They aren’t and its obvious.

      The only way is to appeal to the working class and that applies to working class blacks and Hispanics.

    275. jason says:

      Zinnggg…Ari Fleischer

      “Wait a minute…After months of being told it was racist to refer to COVID as a “Chinese virus” the WP refers to its new strains as “British and South African variants.” So you can use the name of the nation where it comes from, so long as that nation is not China. Got it.”

    276. Phil says:

      Yup, as long as you don’t rattle the cage of our Chinese overlords everything is cool.

    277. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason used to make of Tina the RINO Hunter. He would say “Would the last True Conservative turn out the lights on the way out.” Now he has taken her job. Who gets to decide who is a RINO? I say the voters in that person’s district or state. Jason and Phil think they should make the determination because they, you know, post on a blog and speak for everybody in the entire country.

    278. Bitterlaw says:

      Make fun

    279. Chicon says:

      281 – but you believe those voters should always vote for the incumbent Republican in a primary, so how exactly do the voters get to make that determination?

    280. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Republican Senator Rob Portman(OH) will not run for the senate in 2022.

      https://twitter.com/DaniellaMicaela

    281. Phil says:

      Where exactly did I say I speak for everyone in the country?

      However, I will put it this way. My views are much more reflective of the majority of Republican rank and file than are your establishment Republicans….and it ain’t even close.

      Romney on Chris Wallace yesterday arguing with a straight face that trying ex President Trump is “demanding accountability” and is a necessary prerequisite to “uniting the country” is the most preposterous thing I’ve ever heard. Yet, we have the usual suspects, Liz, Kasich, Toomey, Sasse pushing that BS. Just the latest example of how out of touch these DC Republican jokers are.

    282. jason says:

      Too bad about Portman.

    283. jason says:

      People like Romney and Liz Cheney are keeping the party from getting bigger. How are they growing the party if they are alienating millions of voters that Rs need to win over?”

      Bitter had a lot of red herrings there, but he didn’t answer the question.

    284. jason says:

      In last 24 hours, after floating through a few folks that he was considering creating a third-party as a way to keep Senate Rs in line ahead of impeachment, Trump has been talked out of that and is making clear to people he isn’t pursuing it, per ppl familiar w his thinking.

      — Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) January 24, 2021″

      Haberman is a compulsive purveyor of fake news, so take it with a grain of salt.

      But assuming it is right, I have mixed feelings. Part of me understands a third party would likely benefit the Dems. For that reason I wouldn’t support a third party even if I was still voting.

      But wouldn’t it be fun to see the R party come in third after the Patriot Party? Can you think of a more deserving outcome?

    285. Meldrim says:

      The argument that Bitter is not qualified to serve in Congress is even flatter than the woman who is espousing it.

      But I must say that we have no idea what Bitter’s home district will look like in 2022, given that the PA legislature will have to redraw the maps for every district (and PA will lose a seat, so the state will be down to 17 CDs) and there will be both a possible gubernatorial veto and an activist state Supreme Court that just a few years ago redrew congressional districts with the express intent of helping the Democrats win more races. Bitter, I would wait a bit before making any final plans. (Although, of course, since you had no problem running against Chaka Fattah in one of the most heavily Democrat districts in the nation, you may not care what makeup your district ends up having, but it certainly could affect your odds of winning.)

    286. jason says:

      Now he has taken her job.”

      Dang, that deserves some points.

      Oh wait….

    287. jason says:

      I don’t think he should wait.

      LIke you said, if he was willing to run against Fattah, he is not afraid of a steep challenge.

    288. jason says:

      I hope Jim Jordan runs for Portman’s seat.

    289. jason says:

      Sarah Huckabee running for AR governor….

    290. jason says:

      The argument that Bitter is not qualified to serve in Congress is even flatter than the woman who is espousing it.”

      Don’t you love it here?

    291. Bitterlaw says:

      I am working on my novel today. I just ook a break to learn more about African penguins and other animals from the Honey Badger narrator.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgFrJ4t_nWI

    292. jason says:

      He would say “Would the last True Conservative turn out the lights on the way out.”

      I still say it.

      This is not about “true conservatives”. This is about what the R party should do if it wants to grow its base and win elections.

      I certainly have never called Trump a “true conservative” so Bitter is full of crap.

    293. jason says:

      I am working on divesting myself from Republican and conservative mailing lists and email lists.

      I figure if I am not going to contribute anymore at least I shouldn’t be costing them money on trying to get me to contribute.

      No, no need to thank me, Republicans, glad to save you some money.

    294. Bitterlaw says:

      281 – but you believe those voters should always vote for the incumbent Republican in a primary, so how exactly do the voters get to make that determination?

      I only believe that I should vote for the incumbent rather than risk losing the seat to a Democrat. In my area, anybody that would meet with Phil’s approval would not win. Hate Toomey all you want but that is about as far right as PA will go. The reason that Toomey chose not to run in 2012 is because he promised to only serve 2 terms since he believes in term limits. The rumor now is that Trump’s US Attorney in Philadelphia, Bill McSwain, will run for Toomey’s seat. If jason was still voting, jr would like McSwain. He prosecuted rioters (which will probably be dropped by his successor).

    295. jason says:

      “Hate Toomey all you want but that is about as far right as PA will go.”

      Again, it is not about how right or not Toomey is.

      Toomey chose not to run because he was going to lose. I certainly would not vote for him after his support for impeachment. And I bet a lot of the Trump supporting deplorables wouldn’t either.

      I think Toomey’s hostility to the 2nd Amendment is despicable but I wasn’t a single issue voter. But I think character matters and by becoming a MSM sycophant toady and backstabbing his constituents, he is no longer a viable candidate. Good riddance.

      As for McSwain, I won’t be voting for him but I wish him the best of luck.

    296. Bitterlaw says:

      I did not say that Jason said Trump is a true conservative. I said he took over Tina’s RINO hunting license even though he used to make fun of her.

    297. jason says:

      Bitter to say Toomey was not hostile to the 2nd amendment, he just wanted “background checks”.

      Load of BS. His “bipartisan bill” with Manchin demonized law abiding and legal gun owners and did nothing to keep guns away from people who could care less about background checks, i.e., kooks, criminals and terrorists.

    298. jason says:

      I did not say that Jason said Trump is a true conservative. I said he took over Tina’s RINO hunting license even though he used to make fun of her.”

      Then that is really stupid, since Tina’s stance was based on how conservative you were. She had a bunch of litmus tests and if you didn’t pass all of them you were a RINO.

      Nothing to do with my positions at all. I wouldn’t pass her litmus tests myself.

    299. Bitterlaw says:

      Toomey only served 3 terms in the House because he promised to only serve 3 terms. He promised to only serve 2 Senate terms before Trump came down the escalator.

    300. Sheeple, Jr. says:

      John Kasich says that he will not run for the open Ohio Senate seat. He was potentially the leading Democrat candidate. Did you know that his Father was a postal carrier?

    301. Cash Cow TM says:

      Biden getting poor marks.
      Lots of swings and misses.

      Boost the economy–
      shut down pipeline and lose 11, 000 direct jobs and tens of thousands of indirect jobs and take $2 billion dollars out of economy.

      Lead us into unity–
      supports going ahead and unconstitutionally impeaching a private citizen and

      let transgender boys play in girls sports

      immigration reform–
      from the mouth of one of the men in the most recent Honduran horde in most recent caravan “Biden has given us 100 days to get to the U.S. border.”

      End the disunity and violence in America–

      Calls thugs who broke into U.S. capitol seditionists, but

      Crickets on what to do about the daily Antifa riots in Portland. (“He is watching it closely”)

    302. Chicon says:

      298 – you skillfully did not answer the question. How exactly do the voters get to make that determination?

    303. Phil says:

      Great news. Nancy has announced the managers for the impeachment trial. She days it is the most diverse impeachment manager team in history. A Muslim, a transgender, assorted races, a congressman who slept with a Chinese spy.

      That’s a real breakthrough, Nancy.

      Toomey, Romney, and Sasse impressed.

    304. Cash Cow TM says:

      To bring us together, Biden NEEDS TO HAVE A PUBLIC, DEEP, METICULOUS AUDIT OF ELECTION IRREGULARITIES AND FRAUD ALLEGTIONS AND PROVE HE WAS ELECTED FAIRLY.

      HE NEEDS TO PROVE THAT THOSE WHO SHOUT STOEN ELECTION ARE WRONG.

      Take the wind out of the sails of the deplorables!
      ###########################################

      I know, I won’t hold my breath waiting for this to happen.
      *****************************************
      Oh, and BTW, when they have the impeachment trial for Trump will they get to the motivation of WHY hundreds of thousands of people went to D.C. on Jan.6, charges of stolen election and election irregularities and investigate them?

      ###########################################
      Or will they ignore all that and just focus on Trump telling people to be peaceful actually being a code word for them to break in, destroy the capitol and hang everyone inside?

    305. Bitterlaw says:

      Chi- I have always supported primaries. I have never voted for a challenger over an incumbent because I will not risk losing the seat to a Democrat. Voters willing to take that risk should vote for the challenger.

      Is that clear enough for you?

    306. Phil says:

      Kasich isn’t running for the Senate. Oh damn. I was so looking forward to another Useful Idiot in the Republican caucus. So was Schumer.

    307. Phil says:

      Crystal clear, bitter.

      Liz thanks you.

    308. Robbie says:

      Josh Kraushaar
      @HotlineJosh
      Nightmare scenario for Senate Rs;

      PA GOP nominee: Scott Perry

      NC GOP nominee: Lara Trump

      AZ GOP nominee: Kelli Ward

      OH GOP nominee: Jim Jordan

      – This lineup must have the “send a message” crowd giddy with anticipation.

    309. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 25, 2021 at 11:48 am
      I am working on divesting myself from Republican and conservative mailing lists and email lists.

      – Don’t let anyone ever tell you you’re not a hero.

      Also, have you joined the Patriot Party yet?

    310. Cash Cow TM says:

      After all, Biden won in a landslide, fair and square.

      RIGHT?

    311. Phil says:

      Have you joined the Lincoln Project yet?

    312. Cash Cow TM says:

      I forget, is it now day four or day 5 of the most recent Portland anfita anarchist riots?

    313. Phil says:

      Don’t worry, Cow. The thousands of troops in DC absolutely have the Portland mobs firmly under control. No worries.

    314. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #313- Robbie
      We heard that you started the John Kasich for Senate Fan Club in Ohio. It appears you’ve been rebuffed by him. Please start your finger-sucking!

    315. Phil says:

      Maybe Romney has a family member living in Ohio that can run.

    316. Bitterlaw says:

      Nancy, Chuck, AOC, and Kamala thank you for not voting, Phil.

    317. Phil says:

      You’re welcome.

    318. jason says:

      “jason hardest hit. Toomey announced he would not run a month before the GE.”

      He knew he was going to lose way before the GE.

    319. Phil says:

      I’m just thankful that we still have thousands of troops still in DC to get us through this dangerous crisis.

    320. jason says:

      Don’t let anyone ever tell you you’re not a hero.

      Also, have you joined the Patriot Party yet?”

      Thanks, man, I won’t.

      Nah, unfortunately it looks like Trump won’t create one.

      It would have been fun to see how many votes your tiny tiny R tent would get though.

    321. Bitterlaw says:

      Thank them yourself. I oppose Democrats. You accept them.

      Setting aside the back and forth on politics, I do hope that you and your wife are well. I have not asked about her condition in far too long.

    322. Chicon says:

      Well, Bitter, I gave it a shot. I don’t think you are going to get it. I don’t think you really want to understand and empathize with avid Trump supporters. You’ll have a hard time maximizing your vote with them without doing so, but that’s for you to figure out.

    323. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 12:44 pm
      Have you joined the Lincoln Project yet?

      – Have you joined TX GOP leader Allen West’s call for possible secession?

    324. Phil says:

      Doing pretty well, bitter. Thanks. Remission seems to be holding.

    325. jason says:

      Not a fan of Kelli Ward, but I like the other three “nightmares”.

      I hope Jim Jordan will run.

      Scott Perry is a great candidate, but I am selfish, I think I would be better off with him as this district’s represenatative.

      Lara Trump could very well win, a very articulate woman.

    326. Phil says:

      So, would that be a yes or a no, Robbie?

    327. Robbie says:

      Sheeple,Jr. says:
      January 25, 2021 at 12:49 pm
      #313- Robbie
      We heard that you started the John Kasich for Senate Fan Club in Ohio. It appears you’ve been rebuffed by him. Please start your finger-sucking!

      – If you had read my tweets going back to mid 2015, you’d know few here were more dismissive of Kasich than I have been.

      Predictably though, Kasich became somewhat of hero in this forum in late Summer and early Fall 2015 when people like Jason thought Kasich might be able to keep Jeb from getting the nomination.

    328. jason says:

      Frankly, I don’t really care when Toomey decided not to run or why he is not running.

      Good riddance.

    329. Phil says:

      Yeah, I like Laura and if I was still a voter I could go for her.

    330. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason ignores the fact that Toomey believed in term limits for the House when he was elected. That is why he served only 3 terms. Toomey also believed in a limit of 2 terms for Senators. He is retiring after 2 terms.

      I disagree with Toomey’s statements about impeachment and voter fraud. The record is clear that Toomey kept his pledge on term limits in the House and will keep the pledge in the Senate.

    331. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      jason
      Do you think Pat Toomey will attend the signing ceremony for this piece of gun control legislation?

      https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3928661/posts

    332. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:01 pm

      It would have been fun to see how many votes your tiny tiny R tent would get though.

      – What’s cute is you accuse me of wanting a “tiny tent party” because I want to make an effort to keep suburbs from going completely to the Democrats, but you want a party that purges anyone who dares speak against the mad king, Dimwit Don.

    333. Chicon says:

      333 – “If you had read my tweets going back to mid 2015, you’d know few here were more dismissive of Kasich than I have been.”

      Of course, he was a Republican.

    334. Phil says:

      Well, bitter, glad to see there is still some daylight between your opinions on impeachment of a private citizen and Robbie’s.

    335. jason says:

      Kasich became somewhat of hero in this forum in late Summer and early Fall 2015 when people like Jason thought Kasich might be able to keep Jeb from getting the nomination”

      My candidate was Rubio, I certainly hoped he would keep Jeb from getting the nomination. I voted for Kasich in the PA primary because Rubio was no longer running.

    336. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:05 pm
      So, would that be a yes or a no, Robbie?

      – I’ll tell you the same thing I’ve told you when you’ve made this nonsense accusation each of the last 100 times over the last two years.

      No, but you know that.

    337. Bitterlaw says:

      Robbie has a Twitter account? Maybe he could sell it to Trump. Twitter would never think to look for Pro-Trump tweets from Robbie’s account.

    338. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:04 pm

      Lara Trump could very well win, a very articulate woman.

      – Have you petitioned a court to have your last name changed to Trump yet?

    339. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Robbie:
      You and your Liberal buddy,Josh, omitted the biggest GOP get: Ivanka Trump/Kushner in Florida?

      In all seriousness, I expect John Thune(R-SD) to announce his retirement within the week. I like Thune. What say you?(It’s just a gut hunch.)

    340. jason says:

      I want to make an effort to keep suburbs from going completely to the Democrats,”

      LOL

      Finally Robbie Goebbels admits to the 800-lb gorilla, that the suburbs have gone majority Dem.

      Now, he wants to keep them from going “completely Democrat”.

      My my, the goalposts are moving again.

    341. Phil says:

      …and you want to purge the Trump voters who don’t live in the suburbs. You’ve made it clear your absolute disdain for them. Since I’m one of those I could give a sh*t one way or the other.

    342. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason and I both voted for Kasich in the PA primary in 2016. Common ground does exist.

    343. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:08 pm
      333 – “If you had read my tweets going back to mid 2015, you’d know few here were more dismissive of Kasich than I have been.”

      Of course, he was a Republican.

      – I’m not sure Kasich was a Republican even then. He went out of his way to implement Obamacare in the state. When policy used to matter, that kind of thing hurt Republicans.

    344. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:05 pm
      So, would that be a yes or a no, Robbie?

      – And by not answering my question whether you support Allen West’s suggestion of secession, should that consider that a yes?

    345. Phil says:

      What makes you think Thune is retiring? Man, that would be great news. Kristi would be excellent. A Republican that I could absolutely support – and would be a shoe in BTW.

    346. jason says:

      Lara Trump could very well win, a very articulate woman.

      – Have you petitioned a court to have your last name changed to Trump yet?”

      Ahh, so you don’t like her because her name is Trump?

      Figures.

    347. Phil says:

      I asked you first, Robbie. You answered a question wit a question which means no answer at all.

    348. Phil says:

      Kasich hasn’t been a Republican for years. A clone of Scarborough. At least with Scarborough there is a reason – pussy whipped by Mika. LOL

    349. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:12 pm
      I want to make an effort to keep suburbs from going completely to the Democrats,”

      LOL

      Finally Robbie Goebbels admits to the 800-lb gorilla, that the suburbs have gone majority Dem.

      – Nice try, fake tough guy.

      The suburbs right now are about 50-50. They were about 55-45 R just a few years ago.

      Thanks to your hero Trump, the suburbs could easily end up 55-45 D.

      I want to make an effort to keep the suburbs even or lean R.

      You, on the other hand, want a cult that figuratively sucks Trump’s genitals.

    350. jason says:

      I like Thune, but his comments on the riots were asinine. He knows Trump did not incite any riot and you can bet he won’t vote to impeach. At least he won’t if he intends to run for re-election.

      I think any R who actually votes for this nonsense should resign or retire.

      Starting with the 10 idiots in Congress.

    351. jason says:

      I want to make an effort to keep the suburbs even or lean R.”

      Nah, you want a tiny tiny tent R party that thinks Romney and Jeb Bush are viable candidates.

      You are a moron.

    352. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:06 pm
      Frankly, I don’t really care when Toomey decided not to run or why he is not running.

      Good riddance.

      – Other than Santorum, who lost his re-election by 18 points, Toomey is probably the most conservative Senator PA’s ever had. Yet, that wasn’t good enough for Jason because Toomey didn’t kiss Trump’s a$$ as much as Jason wanted.

    353. Phil says:

      Let’s see. Romney and McCain did much better than Trump in the suburbs than Trump. How did that work out? Oh yeah, McCain lost Michigan by 14 pts and Romney lost the state by 10. Pennsylvania? Same thing – both slaughtered there. I could go on and on..

    354. Bitterlaw says:

      All these years of typing p*ssy to avoid the filter. Thanks, Phil. No need to self-edit.

      Maybe Trump could use WhatsApp. I never heard of it until I had a few cases with Brazilian workers. That community uses it a lot. I wonder if Trump speaks Portuguese.

    355. Robbie says:

      Sheeple,Jr. says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:11 pm
      Robbie:
      You and your Liberal buddy,Josh, omitted the biggest GOP get: Ivanka Trump/Kushner in Florida?

      In all seriousness, I expect John Thune(R-SD) to announce his retirement within the week. I like Thune. What say you?(It’s just a gut hunch.)

      – You can’t really claim you’re conservative or a Republican and want dingbat Ivanka or her liberal husband to primary Rubio in 2022.

      Why would Thune, who is in line to replace McConnell as leader down the road, retire? Because twice impeached Trump sent a mean tweet to him before he got banned for life?

      Who would scare Thune out of the race? Noem? She’s already said she’s running for re-election and she’s hired dirtbag Corey Lewandowski to run her 2024 prez race.

    356. Phil says:

      Yeah, I wondered about typing that word and getting it through the filter. I learned something today.

    357. jason says:

      Thanks to your hero Trump, the suburbs could easily end up 55-45 D.”

      Wow, how deluded can you get.

      We know why the suburbs are trending D, and it has nothing to do with Trump. Nada. Zilch.

      “The reasons for the shift are many. Suburbs have grown more racially diverse, more educated, more economically prosperous and more liberal — all factors making them more likely to vote Democratic. But demographers and political scientists are just as likely to point to another trend: density. Suburbs have grown more crowded, looking more and more like cities and voting like them, too.

      For decades, an area’s population per square mile has been a reliable indicator of its political tilt. Denser areas vote Democratic, less dense areas vote Republican. The correlation between density and voting has been getting stronger, as people began to sort themselves by ethnicity, education, personality, income and lifestyle.

      The pattern is so reliable it can be quantified, averaged and applied to most American cities. At around 800 households per square mile, the blue of Democratic areas starts to bleed into red Republican neighborhoods.

      A purple ring — call it the flip zone — emerges through the suburbs”

    358. Phil says:

      Naw, Thune isn’t retiring. He’s got a cushy DC gig. Why would he want to give up sitting next to Roberts at the Georgetown dinner parties?

    359. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:12 pm
      …and you want to purge the Trump voters who don’t live in the suburbs. You’ve made it clear your absolute disdain for them.

      – Where have I said that? I want evidence. Not a bunch of hunches from you.

      I don’t want to purge anyone, including you and Jason fraud. I want the Republican Party that existed on election night 2014. The one that won 54 Senate seats and 249 House seats. That party dominated the suburbs and the rural areas. Look at the 2014 exit polls.

      What I don’t want is a party that’s built on a cult of ideology about Trump or one that believes in conspiracy theories like QAnon. Now, if that means purging Marjorie Taylor Greene, who believes 9/11 was an inside job and that that Sandy Hook was a fake, then so be it.

    360. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #361
      Why did you and your Liberal pal, Josh, not mention a Jerry Springer(D) Senate candidacy in OH or is it that you both like to fantasize only about ridiculous GOP candidates?

    361. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:13 pm
      Jason and I both voted for Kasich in the PA primary in 2016. Common ground does exist.

      – Yes, but you did that as a last ditch effort to stop Trump from winning the primary. I’m talking about early in the primary when the field was 17 candidates. Plenty here, including Jason, like Kasich because they thought he could keep Jeb from winning.

      I, on the other hand, noted repeatedly that Kasich was mercurial and not well liked by Republicans in Ohio because he seemed intent on slowing down all sorts of conservative legislation in the state. Of course, that was when legislation and policy used to matter to conservatives.

    362. NYCmike says:

      “I believe “Trumpism” is protectionist and isolationist in its essence. I don’t consider myself a Trumpist, but to deny its appeal to a huge sector of the electorate is foolish.”

      -I’ll have to go back to see if anyone else already responded to this, but I think this is wrong.

      The Trump approach is not correctly described like that, especially when compared to what Biden is pushing for now, with mandating lists of companies which get foreign-manufactured waivers from the feds. That approach is “protectionist and isolationist in its essence”, and will most likely have a negative affect on our economy.

    363. Phil says:

      Where have I said that?”

      Did you just type that with a straight face?

      Last week we were part of a “cult”

      Just stop it, man. You’ve been smugly talking down to us for four f*cking years and everyone on here knows it.

    364. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:15 pm
      Lara Trump could very well win, a very articulate woman.

      – Have you petitioned a court to have your last name changed to Trump yet?”

      Ahh, so you don’t like her because her name is Trump?

      Figures.

      – She’s not qualified and Senate seats are too valuable to risk on no-experience candidates. Deal with it. And good luck with the name change. Jason Trump has a ring to it.

    365. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:15 pm
      What makes you think Thune is retiring? Man, that would be great news.

      – What has Thune done to make you not like him? Did he start voting as if he’s a liberal? Oh, silly me. I forgot. We don’t care about policy anymore. The only things that matters is grievance politics and adoration of Trump. And since Thune doesn’t yammer on about cancel culture and didn’t humor the ridiculous attempt to overturn the election, he’s become an apostate.

      The Republican base has gone from policy oriented to grievance and Trump adoration.

    366. Phil says:

      Sh*t Robbie, you said you wanted Trump convicted in this so called “trial”….and you actually said it last week.

      I assume it’s for the same idiotic reason Romney gave yesterday that only after a trial could there be “unity” Since that’s a laughable argument on its face it’s no doubt more along the lines of you obsessive hatred for Trump and his supporters. You just cant help yourself.

    367. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:19 pm
      I like Thune, but his comments on the riots were asinine. He knows Trump did not incite any riot and you can bet he won’t vote to impeach.

      – Of course Trump incited that crowd. I watched the speech. You just don’t care because you were all in favor of an angry and violent mob attempting to overturn an election. You fell for the conspiracy theories and it rotted your brain so it makes perfect sense you would say Trump didn’t incite anything. In your mind, the mob was right to do what it did.

    368. Phil says:

      That’s funny Robbie. You talking about policy is a riot. You’ve never given a damn about policy. You, for one example, have out and out come out and said you don’t care one bit about the border. Just one prominent example.

    369. Phil says:

      We watched the speech, too and know what Trump said and didn’t say.

      Impeachment and trial? You got to be kidding me – and then to make it more laughable doing it after he is out of office. The left so loves useful “Republican” idiots like Robbie.

    370. jason says:

      Trump was not trying to get any mob to overturn anything, that is idiotic.

      He clearly said the march should be peaceful. And 99.9% of the 1.3 million Trump supporters were peaceful.

      A few hundred invaded the capitol, but Trump did not tell them to do that, you know that, the Dems know that. This is all political theater from people who dislike Trump.

      The vast majority of Rs understand that. Only the Trump haters believe he incited a riot.

      It is sad that somebody like Toomey would let his personal feelings towards Trump color his judgment so that he would throw in his lot with the Schumers, Pelosis, and Schiffs.

      COmbined with the fact he purposefully ignored the rampant fraud in the PA election, where he was honor bound to defend the integrity of the election and the vote of his constituents.

      Good riddance, I wish he would resign now in shame.

    371. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:23 pm
      Let’s see. Romney and McCain did much better than Trump in the suburbs than Trump. How did that work out? Oh yeah, McCain lost Michigan by 14 pts and Romney lost the state by 10. Pennsylvania? Same thing – both slaughtered there. I could go on and on..

      – Romney and McCain both ran terrible campaigns against one of the best campaigners we’ve ever seen. Neither was ever likely to win. McCain was hobbled by a massive recession and a bad VP choice while Romney was hobbled by, well, Romney. Romney made a career of trying to hold every position under the sun and it gave his conservative critics and the very skilled Obama campaign ample opportunities to attack him.

      But let’s not act as if McCain and Romney are or were in the center of the party when they ran. Both won their nominations because their opponents were so weak or simply exploded in plain sight. Their opponents were Huckabee, Fred Thompson, Santorum, Newt, and Ron Paul.

    372. jason says:

      I watched the speech.

      Nowhere did Trump incite ANY violence. None. In fact, he used the word “PEACEFULLY”.

      Also, the timeline now shows that the invaders were not even there for the speech, they were already at the Capitol.

      So it is all complete BS.

    373. Phil says:

      376

      Exactly.

    374. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:27 pm
      Naw, Thune isn’t retiring. He’s got a cushy DC gig. Why would he want to give up sitting next to Roberts at the Georgetown dinner parties?

      – On which piece of conservative policy has Thune disappointed you?

      It seems to me you’re far less concerned with conservative policy these days than you are about whether someone “fights” enough for you.

      “But he fights” is not a recipe to win elections. It’s a great way to score repeated appearances on FoxNews primetime, but it doesn’t win majorities or get conservative legislation passed.

      Of course, there’s little evidence the current Trumpified version of the party cares about policy anymore.

    375. Phil says:

      My guess is even Trump hater Roberts isn’t agreeing to preside over that farce…although never underestimate Roberts ability to F it up. He cant help himself.

    376. Robbie says:

      Sheeple,Jr. says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:30 pm
      #361
      Why did you and your Liberal pal, Josh, not mention a Jerry Springer(D) Senate candidacy in OH or is it that you both like to fantasize only about ridiculous GOP candidates?

      – For now, I don’t think Democrats have a realistic chance to win in Ohio in Biden’s first midterm election.

      Regardless, the last thing the Senate needs is Jim Jordan. He’s Todd Akin without the combover and Richard Mourdock without the idiotic rape comments, at least not yet.

      If Republicans want to win majorities in the Senate, they need to find candidates who can win statewide in tough races. Not candidates who say crazy things every night on Hannity.

    377. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:31 pm
      Where have I said that?”

      Did you just type that with a straight face?

      Last week we were part of a “cult”

      – A party that places Trump ahead of all else and demands everyone support him is a cult, but I have not said everyone needs to be purged. What I’ve said is Republicans have to lead the voters away from worship of one person and back to issues and policies. Of course, the Republican Party hasn’t tried to lead voters in a particular direction since GWB’s 2004 campaign.

    378. NYCmike says:

      “– Of course Trump incited that crowd. I watched the speech…”

      -If you watched it, then grab a transcript and show exactly where the incitement showed up…….if his words incited the crowd, you should be able to show which words you speak of.

    379. Chicon says:

      Yep, if Robbie is the definition of a Republican, I want none of that…..

      And that is the statement many are making about Republicans these days…..if X is the definition of a Republican, I want none of that.

    380. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:38 pm
      Sh*t Robbie, you said you wanted Trump convicted in this so called “trial”….and you actually said it last week.

      I assume it’s for the same idiotic reason Romney gave yesterday that only after a trial could there be “unity”

      – Yes, I think Trump should be convicted and barred from holding future office because I believe he’s guilty of inciting a mob that got four people killed and he failed to uphold the oath of office he took on January 20, 2017.

      As for Romney’s unity argument, I think it’s like most of his other positions. Misguided. Neither a conviction nor an acquittal will bring any unity. The only thing that will unify the country is time. The further away we get from what happened and the sooner we get past corona, the sooner the country will cool down. That may be years though.

      I do not expect, however, the Senate will come anywhere close to convicting Trump. Long term, the benefits of a conviction are quite clear. Short term, the benefits for the party are probably not benefits at all.

    381. NYCmike says:

      ” Long term, the benefits of a conviction are quite clear.”

      -Yikes. How is he different than a Schumer/AOC/Pelosi type?

      This guy is scarier than I thought.

      Go fly a kite, Robbie.

    382. NYCmike says:

      Still waiting for Robbie to quote from Trump’s speech………

    383. Phil says:

      The benefits of conviction are quite clear?

      …and no, it doesn’t differ at all from a Schumer/Pelosi/AOC type. Not one bit.

      Robbie is flat out nuts.

    384. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:41 pm
      That’s funny Robbie. You talking about policy is a riot. You’ve never given a damn about policy. You, for one example, have out and out come out and said you don’t care one bit about the border. Just one prominent example.

      – I care about tax policy, national defense, and the courts. I have always cared about those issues and have repeatedly stated my concern for those issues. As for the border, it’s your number one issue, but, for me, it does not rank nearly as high on the list.

      But let’s be clear about something. The Republican Party base voters don’t prioritize policy issues anymore. The 2016 race was not about tax rates or the size of government. That race was not a battle like what we saw between Reagan and Bush in 1980 or even GWB and McCain in 2000.

      Grievance politics is what motivates the base now. If policy was paramount, Scott Walker and Ted Cruz would have been the runaway winners in 2016. Walker never got off the launch pad and Cruz got outmaneuvered by a reality TV personality. Why? Because the base was motivated by finding some who “fights”. They didn’t care what policies someone held. They cared if the person hated the media or Democrats.

      A great example was the South Carolina debate in February 2016. Trump accused GWB of essentially knowing that 9/11 was going to happen. It was a “fire can’t melt steel” moment. Despite that, Trump came out of the debate in a better position because he showed he was a “fighter” even if it meant making an argument Code Pink made.

    385. Phil says:

      I’m going to disengage from this conversation now.

      Trying to carry on a dialogue with someone who thinks a show trial of a private citizen carries “long term benefits” is simply a waste of time. It’s a horrible precedent. Something you’d see in a banana republic. Unity in the long term?

      Enough.

    386. Chicon says:

      386 – you want the ex-President that those people revere to be tried and convicted in the Senate after he has left office.

      You also allege that you don’t want these people to leave the party.

      No rational human can believe that these two things are near consistent. You’ve been told this by actual Trumpers here many times, and you still spout the same garbage; so which is it, are you an idiot or a troll?

    387. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:44 pm
      We watched the speech, too and know what Trump said and didn’t say.

      Impeachment and trial? You got to be kidding me – and then to make it more laughable doing it after he is out of office. The left so loves useful “Republican” idiots like Robbie.

      – The vast majority of legal scholars agree a president or other office holder can be tried after leaving office. Even the Federalist Society believes that.

      Why? It may be the only way to punish someone who could still run for future office or hold another office in the future like a judicial post on cabinet post.

      If your view is a president who is impeached can’t be tried after he/she leaves office, then you’re essentially saying there is a 4 to 6 week grace period before a term ends when a president can commit all sorts of impeachable offenses and suffer no repercussions.

      Regardless of Trump, is that really the standard that should be set? Should a president defeated after one term really be allowed to run again even if he/she committed impeachable offenses at the end of the first term? There is precedent of a post office trail with Grant’s secretary of war.

      Imagine Bill Clinton committed some offense in the waning days of his second term in 2001 and there wasn’t time to impeach him before January 20, 2001. Then imagine Al Gore had won in 2000 and had a SCOTUS opening, but realized there was no chance of confirmation. Then imagine Gore decided to recess appoint Bill Clinton to that seat and he then went on to rule on cases through the end of that Congress in 2003.

      Should that have been allowed, or would the only remedy to stop some sort of devious plan like that have been a Senate trial that convicted and barred Clinton from any future office, like a judgeship, after he left office?

    388. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      January 25, 2021 at 1:59 pm
      Yep, if Robbie is the definition of a Republican, I want none of that…..

      – And if you’re the definition of a Republican, I want none of that.

      However, you’re not a Republican. You’re a Trumpist.

    389. Phil says:

      More and more evidence of a troll.

      Well, I see that the criteria for what constitutes a COVID death has become much steeper all of a sudden.

      Gee, I wonder what changed. LOL

    390. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 2:16 pm
      The benefits of conviction are quite clear?

      …and no, it doesn’t differ at all from a Schumer/Pelosi/AOC type. Not one bit.

      Robbie is flat out nuts.

      – I know you can read so I know you saw I said the long term benefits would be clear.

      The long term benefits would be Trump could never run for office again and permanently tie the Republican Party brand to his toxic standing with the broader public.

      A conviction would also make any effort to form the “Patriot Party” a nonstarter since Trump couldn’t run. It wouldn’t be able to siphon votes off from Republicans and make the Democrats a permanent majority.

      A conviction would likely take the last arrow out of Trump’s quiver. Without any platform from which to harass the party, he would likely lose interest in politics are retire to a life of golf and chasing porn stars.

      Short term, it could be detrimental to the party because it might spur moronic primary challenges. However, I’m not so sure Trump’s staying power after a conviction would be as strong as some think.

    391. Chicon says:

      Where did you see that, Phil?

    392. Bitterlaw says:

      Robbie – Flaming liberal Alan Dershowitz, an actual legal scholar and Constitutional expert, said that most legal scholars are Democrat hacks. He also said that the trial of Trump after he left office is blatantly unconstitutional and is actually a Bill of Attainder prohibited by the Constitution.

      I read yesterday that Roberts (according to Rand Paul) will not serve as Judge over the impeachment trial because he is only permitted to serve as the judge of a trial of the President and not an ex-President.

    393. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 2:23 pm
      I’m going to disengage from this conversation now.

      Trying to carry on a dialogue with someone who thinks a show trial of a private citizen carries “long term benefits” is simply a waste of time. It’s a horrible precedent.

      – First of all, the precedent was already set in the US Grant presidency when his secretary of war was impeached and tried after he resigned. His resignation was meant to short circuit the impeachment, but the Congress went ahead with it.

      And, yes, there are long term benefits for the party if Trump is convicted. It removes any chance of him holding the party hostage in 2024 with another sure-to-fail presidential run and it provides a clean break with Trump the person. A person the public, by in large, finds reprehensible.

    394. Phil says:

      Red State, Chicon. About four or five articles down. Very disgusting change of criteria by the CDC. The CDC wasn’t even subtle about the about face.

    395. Phil says:

      Troops to stay in Washington until at least mid March.

      You can’t make this stuff up.

      I guess they are impeachment props.

    396. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      January 25, 2021 at 2:29 pm
      386 – you want the ex-President that those people revere to be tried and convicted in the Senate after he has left office.

      You also allege that you don’t want these people to leave the party.

      – This assumes the majority of the party holds Donald Trump as close to their heart as you do. I don’t believe that’s the case.

      You may revere him and some portion of the party may revere him right now, but in four years? It really depends on how many in the party are so committed to Trump and only Trump that they can’t move on from him. I’m not convinced that number is as high as you believe it is.

      There are plenty of people who like Trump, but like isn’t revere. In nine months, my guess is a lot of the party, while still liking him, will have moved on from him.

    397. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      January 25, 2021 at 2:39 pm
      Robbie – Flaming liberal Alan Dershowitz, an actual legal scholar and Constitutional expert, said that most legal scholars are Democrat hacks. He also said that the trial of Trump after he left office is blatantly unconstitutional and is actually a Bill of Attainder prohibited by the Constitution.

      I read yesterday that Roberts (according to Rand Paul) will not serve as Judge over the impeachment trial because he is only permitted to serve as the judge of a trial of the President and not an ex-President.

      – You lost me at Alan Dershowitz. And by the way, Dershowitz is a an expert in criminal law I believe.

      Regardless, the Federalist Society (are they Democrat hacks) says an ex president can be tired.

    398. Phil says:

      Trump didn’t resign to avoid impeachment. His term ran out.

      Good find, bitter. I wonder what “neutral” presiding officer Schumer and the handful of courageous Sasse Republicans will stick up there in their “fair” trial. Vice President Kamala Harris? This trial looks more sham like by the moment.

      Popcorn.

    399. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      January 25, 2021 at 2:42 pm
      https://nypost.com/2021/01/23/sen-rand-paul-says-chief-justice-roberts-wont-take-trump-impeach-trial/

      Robbie hardest hit.

      – That’s not a surprise. When federal judges have been tried in the Senate, the presiding officer has either been the VP or Senate Pro tempore.

      The Constitution says the Chief Justice for presidents. Trump is no longer president, but the precedent seems clear he can still be tried.

      Also, let’s not forget that Andy McCarty, a big Trump defender, made the case in 2017 the House and Senate should impeach and convict Hillary Clinton. What office did she hold at the time?

    400. Gordon Allen says:

      Robbie. You’re clueless. I think push to shove Trump voters are with him and not the Republcan Party as you see it to be,an oasis of Romney’s,Kasich’s…
      Trump is vastly more in sync with the Republcan rank and file than what I will call Establishment/ go along/ get along types. Surely,at some level you know that too?

    401. Phil says:

      The Constitution says the Chief Justice shake preside in any impeachment trial “of the President”

      Of course, Trump isn’t the President.

      Good to see we have Kamala making rulings from the chair. This will play great.

      I want butter on my popcorn.

    402. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 2:51 pm
      Trump didn’t resign to avoid impeachment. His term ran out.

      – In early 2017, Andy McCarthy said the House and Senate should impeach and convict Hillary Clinton. What office did she hold then?

      Since there are impeachable offenses that aren’t crimes, an impeachment and conviction may be the only way to prevent someone from holding office again.

      The precedent is clear that a post term trial can take place. This is just a process argument Republicans have latched onto so they don’t have to address the actual charge.

      It will probably work, though. The process argument.

    403. Phil says:

      Yeah, Robbie isn’t going to get his conviction. Four Republican votes max. Doubt even Murkowski or Collins goes along with this sham. Romney, Sasse, and Toomey.

    404. Robbie says:

      Now, I know Matt Gaetz is one on Trump’s biggest defenders and a rising star in the Trumpist movement, but here he is replying to Politico’s Jake Sherman in December 2019.

      Matt Gaetz
      @mattgaetz
      Dec 4, 2019
      You actually can impeach a former President, FWIW

    405. Phil says:

      Too bad Flake isn’t still in the Senate. He’d love the spotlight as one of the self righteous and “courageous” Republicans. Of course, that useful idiot is just fine with his present gig getting tongue bathed on CNN on a daily basis.

    406. Robbie says:

      Regardless of how much you disagree with me on Trump, I think we can all agree this is good news.

      The effort to recall Gavin Newsom is picking up steam.

      https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-governor-faces-recall-effort-amid-anger-over-covid-19-restrictions-11611583254

    407. Bitterlaw says:

      Robbie – If Trump is so terrible and Republicans will move on from him, why are Democrats violating the clear language of the Constitution to prevent him from running for office again? If you are correct, they should be begging him to run again and asking Twitter to unlock his account. Although I do not think Trump would win in 2024 from the vantage point of 2021, things change. I think the Dems will lose both chambers in 2022 because Biden/Harris will suck that bad.

      You can dismiss what I say but you can’t accuse me of being a Trump “cultist.”

    408. Robbie says:

      Here’s Ric Grenell, a Trump confidante, saying Trump has told him he wants to run again.

      https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-2024-ric-grenell-says-former-president-does-want-to-run-again/

    409. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      January 25, 2021 at 3:13 pm
      Robbie – If Trump is so terrible and Republicans will move on from him, why are Democrats violating the clear language of the Constitution to prevent him from running for office again?

      – What’s the clear language Democrats are violating?

      And my guess is Democrats are giddy that Trump won’t be convicted and barred from running because they realize Republicans are stupid enough to nominate Trump again.

      And before you ask how can it be that most are ready to move on from Trump yet he could still be the nominee? Simple. Trump only needed 30% of the primary vote in the first half of the 2016 primary races to win. And since 2024 will be a crowded primary, just on third of the party could easily propel him to the nomination again.

      Do you want that? What does it say to you that Chris Christie, your guy, says Trump should be convicted?

    410. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 25, 2021 at 3:04 pm
      Too bad Flake isn’t still in the Senate. He’d love the spotlight as one of the self righteous and “courageous” Republicans.

      – Yeah, he’d still be voting for conservative policy and judges whereas Sinema is doing the opposite.

    411. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      384 NYCmike says:

      “– Of course Trump incited that crowd. I watched the speech…” -If you watched it, then grab a transcript and show exactly where the incitement showed up…….if his words incited the crowd, you should be able to show which words you speak of.”

      Robbie, we are still waiting for you to quote exactly what Trump said that incited the crowd. An ACLU attorney recently stated:

      “Under the First Amendment, it’s an extremely high bar before speech can be criminalized as incitement. But unless and until there is an immediate and serious risk to a specific identifiable person, that speech can’t be made criminal consistent with our First Amendment.”

      Robbie, What did Trump say that would satisfy this standard?

    412. Meldrim says:

      #404, Robbie, *some* Federalist Society members say that a former Officer of the United States may face an impeachment trial, while other Federalist Society members say that only current Officers of the United States may face an impeachment trial. Unlike in Leftist groups, differences of opinion are permitted in the Federalist Society.

    413. Bitterlaw says:

      Chris Christie speaks for himself. I don’t agree with him. It happens.

    414. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      414. “You can dismiss what I say but you can’t accuse me of being a Trump “cultist.””

      Robbie believes in equal opportunity; anyone who disagrees with him is a Trump cultist. This includes those who worry about silly things, like does this irregular impeachment attempt violate the Constitution.

    415. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      416. “Do you want that? What does it say to you that Chris Christie, your guy, says Trump should be convicted?”

      A lot of us had a very low opinion of Chris Christie to begin with, including when he attacked Rubio during the New Hampshire debates. He was an opportunist idiot, who held a grudge against Trump for not appointing him to a position in his administration. Trump was a very bad judge of human character; perhaps because of his own flaws in this regard. I voted for Trump last year; but as have indicated in the past, did like a lot of things about him.

    416. Meldrim says:

      Robbie wrote “Trump is no longer president, but the precedent seems clear he can still be tried.”

      Poppycock. The only precedent to which anyone can point in order to get around the clear language of the Constitution is the Bellknap case from the 1880s, in which a corrupt Cabinet officer was impeached by an overwhelming majority of the House and, the day before hi Senate trial was going to commence, he resigned from office. Senators were pissed off that Bellknap had resigned so ham-handedly right before the trial, and a majority of them decided to hold the trial anyhow, over the objection of well over one-third of Senators who pointed out that it was unconstitutional to do so. After the brief (and unconstitutional) trial, Bellknap was acquitted despite every Senator believing that he was guilty of High Crimes and Misdemeanors, and the reason given for the acquittal was that he no longer was an Officer of the United States so the Senate did not have jurisdiction. Nice “precedent” that you got there, Robbie.

      Legislative bodies do unconstitutional things all the time, and it seems that this time will be no different. I mean, the First Congress put the freaking President Pro Tempore of the Senate and Speaker of the House in the Line of Succession to the presidency despite the holders of such offices clearly not being Officers of the United States and it violating the Separation of Powers (and if they resigned from Congress when acting as President, which would result in them no longer holding the office that empowered them so to act in the first place), so that kind of crap has been going on forever. (And if you don’t want to take my word for the proposition that the Constitution does not permit the President Pro Tempore and Speaker of the House to be added to the Line of Succession, you can take James Madison’s word, since he, more than anyone else, can claim to have written the damn Constitution and he objected to the 1791 Succession Act on constitutional grounds from the House floor with the same argument that I just referenced.)

    417. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      422…but also did not like a lot of things about Trump.

    418. Bitterlaw says:

      Christie was my first choice in 2016. He was a very good Governor of New Jersey at that time. I also liked Rubio but he should have been better prepared for an attack that he knew was coming.

    419. Robbie says:

      Ben Jacobs
      @Bencjacobs

      Oregon GOP passes a formal resolution calling the attack on the Capitol “a false flag” and comparing it to the Reichstag fire.

      – The state of the Republican Party is just awful, although I suspect there are some in this forum who believe what the Oregon GOP stated is true.

    420. Robbie says:

      SanDiegoCitizen says:
      January 25, 2021 at 3:38 pm
      416. “Do you want that? What does it say to you that Chris Christie, your guy, says Trump should be convicted?”

      A lot of us had a very low opinion of Chris Christie to begin with, including when he attacked Rubio during the New Hampshire debates. He was an opportunist idiot, who held a grudge against Trump for not appointing him to a position in his administration. Trump was a very bad judge of human character; perhaps because of his own flaws in this regard. I voted for Trump last year; but as have indicated in the past, did like a lot of things about him.

      – Chris Christie’s endorsement of Trump in late February 2016 probably sealed his nomination win. And after that, Christie became Trump’s single best advocate. To suggest Christie holds a grudge after he spent four years defending Trump seems like a big, big stretch.

    421. Robbie says:

      SanDiegoCitizen says:
      January 25, 2021 at 3:29 pm
      414. “You can dismiss what I say but you can’t accuse me of being a Trump “cultist.””

      Robbie believes in equal opportunity; anyone who disagrees with him is a Trump cultist.

      – No. I don’t believe Bitter is a cultist and have never said so. There are certainly some cultists in this forum, but I don’t equate all support for Trump as cultist behavior.

      I do, however, believe that saying the party must place Trump ahead of all its long held views is the makings of a cult-like operation.

    422. Gordon Allen says:

      Roberts won’t preside. I’m certain the Constitution says he must. This is such a travesty only certifiable Trump haters( and I mean actually certifiable) can see the slightest validity to this. Any Republcan giving any support is effectively resigning his seat. They’re irrevocably gone; only the date to be determined.

    423. Meldrim says:

      Of course Chief Justice Roberts won’t preside over the sham impeachment trial of former President Trump. Under the Constitution, the only time that the CJ may preside–and, in fact, must preside–over the Senate is during the impeachment trial *of the president*. We only have one president at a time, and since noon on Jan. 20 it’s been Joe Biden. So the Democrats got at least one thing right: The sham impeachment trial is not related to the impeachment of the President of the United States. Of course, they’re too dumb to realize that if Trump usn’t “the president” pursuant to the Impeachment Clauses then not only does the Chuef Justice not preside over the trial, but *Trump us not one of the Officers of the United States for which an impeachment trial may be held*.

      BTW, in a prior post I wrote that the Bellknap impeachment was from the 1880s, but thinking it over I’m pretty sure that it was in 1876 (a few months before the contested presidential election).

    424. Bitterlaw says:

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9185599/New-York-Senator-introduces-new-bill-decriminalize-sex-workers-state.html

      So it is legal to sell sex acts but illegal to buy them. Glad to see the state of New York found something else to work on after destroying its economy. I wonder if the hookers have to be 6 feet away and masked.

    425. Brucefdb says:

      It’s nice to have a site where those that want to pretend we are still a sovereign nation and that the faux political show matters have a place to come and kibitz as if it’s still business as usual.

    426. NYCmike says:

      Hey Bruce, how goes it!?

    427. NYCmike says:

      After seeing video of Biden signing his EO’s and not explaining each and every one of them, as if he was Col Blake and Radar was handing him each EO to sign, I think Bruce may be onto something.

    428. jaichind says:

      https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/harvard-applications-surge-as-students-flock-to-biggest-names

      “Harvard Applications Surge as Students Flock to Top Names”

      With SATs no longer needed to apply to college there is a huge surge in applicants to Ivies. The entire admissions process is turning into one large random process.

    429. Brucefdb says:

      Doing ok Mike, and yourself?

      Did I read somewhere that Tina is no longer here? Is she Ok?

    430. Phil says:

      Lol

      We now officially have a presiding judge in the impeachment show trial. Yes boys and girls…it is officially Patrick Leary. Oh, BTW, he will also be voting. Judge and jury all rolled into one.

      Couldn’t convince the Chief Justice to be part of this farce so they now have one of their own.

      Romney, Sasse, and Toomey must be so proud. LOL

    431. Bitterlaw says:

      Welcome, Bruce. Lots of discussion here but very few voters. I will still vote and I plan on running for Congress. Lisab says I am a failure and unqualified. Cash Cow is still providing the most insightful analysis.

    432. Cash Cow TM says:

      Two salient points you typed need to be addressed.

      1. “inciting a mob that got four people killed”
      ___________
      Four people were not killed by riotous actions.

      A woman inside the capitol and part of a mob trying to break in an inner area was shop and died.

      One policeman died the next day at home from internal injuries suffered at the hands of the mob.

      A capitol policeman committed suicide the next day or night.

      Two people at the rally (SOMEWHERE–seen no reports they were in the capitol or part of the mob that attacked the capitol) died from medical emergencies. As far as I know, there did not by by being shot, hit with spears or Molotov cocktails or trampled to death by the mob.

      If anyone has a news article about these two people, please share it.

      I am sad that these five people died.
      *************************************
      2. ” The only thing that will unify the country is time.”

      The only thing that will end the DISUNITY (from tens of millions of people) is for Biden to have someone do a DEEP AUDIT OF THE ELEFTION IN THOSE 5-6 KEY STATES AND PROVE THAT HE WON FAIR AND SQUARE. AND if election fraud, illegalities and irregularities occurred, then fix them so it never happens again.

      JUST PROVE HE WON THE ELECTION FAIR AND SQUARE!

      PULL THE RUG FROM UNDER THE “DEPLORABLES”.

      [or Biden could simply put Trump in front of a firing squad and bury him–I am sure that (to many) would unify the county. stop illegal immigration, end COVID, end deaths from the drug pandemic, create a booming economy, end racism, make antifa melt away, bring back unicorns and rainbows, etc..]

    433. Cash Cow TM says:

      And speaking of antifa anarchists,

      MSM asked Trump practically daily if he disavowed and condemned the poor boys (and violence and racism, etc.)

      HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THE MSM ASKED IF BIDEN CONDEMNS AND DSAVOWS THE ACTIONS OF ANTIFA?

      AS A CANDIDATE, OR A PRESIDENT!

      MSM…Hypocritical b@st@rds…

    434. Bitterlaw says:

      Tina left right after the election. Mr. Vito left because I did not agree with him but he often disappears for months. Tgca left in fabulous fashion. Country Dick Morris retired. The post-election slowdown at HHR is upon us.

    435. NYCmike says:

      I am well.

      Tina left of her own accord, as the mainline Republican faction in D.C. showed they are still more worried about their own power and comfort as opposed to the freedom and liberty of the voters who put them there.

    436. NYCmike says:

      “Mr. Vito left because I did not agree with him….”

      -Bitterlaw,

      Not really the correct assessment of what happened.

    437. Bitterlaw says:

      This should be good. NYC to make me the villain in 3…2…1…

    438. NYCmike says:

      Bitterlaw,

      If you whine like that, because of such a mild statement, during your general election, you won’t have ANY CHANCE to win.

    439. NYCmike says:

      No need to make you a “villain”.

      Your argument about free speech kept ignoring particular provisions put into the law which govern the platforms being argued about.

      When you refused to address that issue, it seemed like Mr. Vito thought it futile to keep arguing the point, and decided to leave.

    440. Bitterlaw says:

      As I said, we had a disagreement and he left. He was planning to leave like he often does and he used me as the excuse.

      I am truly impressed at all of the election advice that I have received from people who refuse to run for anything. At least NYC still plans on voting, even though it won’t do him any good in New York. Maybe the fact that DeBlasio is 10x worse than David Dinkins will inspire sanity in New York CIty and a new Rudy can arise.

    441. Bitterlaw says:

      NYC – I am stronger than you give me credit for. I have not felt any reason to get up since I buried my niece but I still do. I endure every day.

    442. NYCmike says:

      Bitterlaw,

      I have my son to think about, when it comes to voting. I hope his vote will continue to be legitimately counted and make a difference.

      Believe me, both my wife and I are showing him, and making sure he seeks himself, what the world is/was like in other parts of the world, how freedoms and liberties we take for granted are stripped from the people by authoritarian regimes, as well as in places where a soft tyranny (European Union, Canada) has taken over.

      We also point out certain freedoms that the tyrants look to strip first from the people, namely free speech and the right to bear arms.

    443. Brucefdb says:

      NYC and Bitter…..thanks for the info about Tina.
      She spent a lot of her life here it seems.

    444. dennis says:

      I’ve lurked on this site since 2005, only post on occasion. I live in Scanlon’s district. She is a typical liberal democrat, aka a total disaster. Bitter, I wish you all the best in your Congressional pursuit. If you get the GOP nomination, you’ll have my vote.

    445. Brucefdb says:

      Bitter, you have probably repeated it more than you want, but what are you running for and why?

      The niece you lost must have been very close. I lost the one most dear to me about 3 years ago so perhaps I appreciate your feelings. I hope you still have your faith.

    446. Brucefdb says:

      NYC 449 yes, free speech, right to bear arms. But it will be a lot more than that soon enough. I am glad I don’t have a son to raise. You have quite a challenge.

    447. Bitterlaw says:

      Bruce:

      I am running for Congress. In 2002, I ran for Congress in Philadelphia. My 12% was considered a strong showing. I have better odds in 2022.

      I am sorry for your loss. In June. my 25 year old niece lost her battle with depression and killed herself. Darkest time of my life.

    448. jason says:

      So I need to be a voter to try to help Bitter with his campaign?

      Ok.

    449. jason says:

      “Kyrsten is against eliminating the filibuster, and she is not open to changing her mind about eliminating the filibuster.”

      Actually I believe her more than I do a fake “moderate’ like Manchin.

    450. jason says:

      That was Sinema’s spokesperson.

    451. Bitterlaw says:

      The new district is in suburban Philadelphia. Rep. Scanlon won in 2020 with 64% of the vote. However, she only won with 52% in 2018. Since 2022 will not be a Presidential year, I think it will be close and winnable. Nobody else here shares that view.

    452. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      There are about 1,200,000 people in California who were diagnosed as having signed the recall petitions for Gov. Newsom. This has resulted in Newsom ending the statewide lockdown, allowing restaurants and other businesses to now reopen. Newsom’s prognosis is not good until a vaccine is developed to prevent individuals who signed the petitions from voting.

    453. Bitterlaw says:

      It would help if you also ran, Jason. You would win easily. Maybe I can refer to with my slogan – “Send an A=hole to Congress. Don’t let York have the only A-hole in DC.”

    454. lisab says:

      I think it will be close and winnable. Nobody else here shares that view.
      ———————————-

      q: mr. bitterlaw, do you like president trump?

      (election over)

    455. Bitterlaw says:

      I revised it. “Don’t let York have the only A-hole in Congress.”

      The Republican candidate in 2020 got 35% of the vote with Trump on the ballot so that is the absolute floor of my support. 2022 will be similar to 2018 when Scanlon only got 52% of the vote (with Trump in the White House). Just need to keep the 35% and add 15.1% to it. There must be at least that many voters who love basketball and softball.

    456. Phil says:

      Jason, agree on Sinema over Manchin any day of the week. For one thing, she didn’t have to add the not open to change her mind part. Second, take a long look at Manchin’s fraud like track record. He’s a Wiesel Just like the suddenly he’s open to hearing arguments for DC statehood after assuring everyone on FOX he wasn’t going to go for any of the radical business in the senate.

      The good news is the filibuster is safe for two more years. The bad news is it will probably be gone after two more years when Democrats can secure a couple of more seats. NC, Pa, Wisconsin, ad a couple of more Republican Senate seats look very doable for them. At that point, the filibuster is gone, four more permanent Dem senators out of DC and Puerto Rico, and the Supreme Court (and probably the Circuit courts as well) get packed. Voting rights for illegals and then, presto. The US is California.

    457. Chicon says:

      447 – you are right, I’ll leave the campaign strategy to you. You’re a good man; I wish you the best.

    458. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      458. Bitter, here is some campaign advice, since your running in a Democratic leaning district:

      1.) Get your supporters to vote early by mail-in ballot (ignore the guy with the llama);

      2.) Have someone leak to the press that your opponent traveled to China at the end of 2019, and when she got back her friends started getting sick;

      3.) State that you voted for Trump, but you had a frown on your face when you did so.

    459. jason says:

      1.) Get your supporters to vote early by mail-in ballot (ignore the guy with the llama);”

      Yes, make sure their votes don’t get counted.

    460. Brucefdb says:

      Seems like a lot of people here are rooting for you Bitter. I wish you well. Maybe you can sneak in below the radar…..but they may require every citizen to vote by then.

    461. jason says:

      3.) State that you voted for Trump, but you had a frown on your face when you did so.”

      In other words, say that you are an elitist who hates deplorables.

      Sounds like a winning strategy to me.

    462. jason says:

      Whatever.

      I was serious about wanting to help Bitter out.

      Since he thinks I have to be a voter to do that, I will abandon the idea.

    463. Bitterlaw says:

      Chi – I meet with the local Chairman. He may say, “WTF. I just received 27,000 posts you made since 2004 on a blog” from somebody named lisab.”

      I plan on running. Not sure if the party shares that plan. If you don’t run, you can’t win…Unless you are Joe Biden. He wanted to run for the nomination against Hillary but the death of his son in 2015 derailed that desire. I can understand that. The death of my niece had the opposite effect on me – tomorrow is not guaranteed. Besides, losing an election can’t hurt me. Been there. Done that.

    464. lisab says:

      q: do you think the election was stolen from trump?

      (again, election over)

    465. lisab says:

      “WTF. I just received 27,000 posts you made since 2004 on a blog” from somebody named lisab.”
      ————————-

      fortunately i don’t have to do that

      although, most likely the trolls won’t share them until after you are the nominee

    466. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – You don’t have to be a voter but it does make me wonder if you can really support me. I believe in voting. You no longer do. That is a big issue but not insurmountable.

      If you want to help, you should at least lose 2 words in your vocabulary during the campaign – elitist and deplorable. I see people as people and not groups. Let the Democrat divide people.

    467. Bitterlaw says:

      I prefer the terms hard working voters. Sue me.

    468. Bitterlaw says:

      lisab – Let’s just be honest with each other. You think I am a loser. When I run, you will do everything you can to stop me. All of this “I would never do that” is not credible. I do not know what I did to you but you have always mocked me and put me down. I don’t understand it but I accept it.

    469. lisab says:

      All of this “I would never do that” is not credible.
      —————–

      you may think that, but it is 100% accurate.

      although now maybe you get why no one trusts you on wanting the trump voters. you are just not credible.

    470. lisab says:

      You think I am a loser.
      —————————–

      i think you suffer from mental illness, specifically being suicidal, because i do think you are credible on that.

      which is why you should not be a congressman

    471. lisab says:

      you have always mocked me and put me down.
      —————–

      it is hhr

      the mocking is free

      but i am not mocking you on your depression. i am being 100% straight with you

    472. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      470. “If you don’t run, you can’t win.”

      Yes, and also fortune favors the brave. Plus Bitter will be running in what likely will be a good year for Republicans. If Biden crashes and burns as president (which is likely), then there may be a lot of Republican upset wins in Democratic leaning districts.

    473. Bitterlaw says:

      i am being 100% straight with you that you are a loser and a failure so you should not run for office. Plus you are fat and old.

      I fixed it fpr lisab so all of her statements are in one place.

    474. Bitterlaw says:

      There are no crazy people in Congress? They are voting on removing somebody from office who is already out of office. Sanity is in short supply there.

    475. Bitterlaw says:

      i think you suffer from mental illness, specifically being suicidal, because i do think you are credible on that.

      And our remedy is to tell a suicidal person is that they are a loser and destined to fail at something they want to do. Interesting.

    476. lisab says:

      Plus you are fat and old.
      ————–

      you told people here that you have lost weight

    477. jason says:

      If you want to help, you should at least lose 2 words in your vocabulary during the campaign – elitist and deplorable. I see people as people and not groups. Let the Democrat divide people.”

      I have a better idea.

      GFY.

      Someone who has worked on several successful campaigns offers to help you.

      But you want to impose conditions? I have to be a voter. I have to “change my vocabulary”?

      You don’t want my help. It would be more honest to just say so.

    478. Cash Cow TM says:

      “q: do you think the election was stolen from trump?”

      Even the Cow thinks there was enough election irregularities and unlawful and illegal activities in 5 or 6 key states before and during the election to cast serious doubt on whether Biden won the ECV fair and square.

    479. Brucefdb says:

      479 Good year for Republicans?? Even if I believed elections still matter the R’s will be pretending to defend 20 seats in the Senate, many vulnerable.
      The Globalists will win all of them that they want to.
      But it might be they won’t care about the House Districts much.

    480. Cash Cow TM says:

      lisab,

      Walt met Bitter.

      Bitter is far from fat.

      Bitter is not old.
      Most people do not consider late 40s or early 50s old.

      I don’t understand why you push those two false ideas.

    481. lisab says:

      Even the Cow thinks there was enough election irregularities and unlawful and illegal activities in 5 or 6 key states before and during the election to cast serious doubt on whether Biden won the ECV fair and square.
      ———————————

      but … if you say that

      you are a qanon conspirator

    482. Brucefdb says:

      Ah, I really have not been around here much! I thought you and Lisa were friends Bitter!

    483. lisab says:

      Bitter is far from fat.
      —————————

      he WAS … as i said at the time, jolly

      but he has lost weight, so i’ve heard

    484. jason says:

      It’s ok Bitter. Bad idea anyway. I want to end my involvement with politics, I was going to make an exception for you. But it is probably best I make a clean break. Let’s just drop it.

    485. jason says:

      Budweiser decides maybe they don’t want to bite the hand that drinks them.

      “Budweiser will not be running a commercial during the Super Bowl for the first time in 37 years.”

    486. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason – I do want your help but I need to know how you plan to do that when you are openly hostile to people I need to vote for me as well the other people I also need to vote for me. You say that there is no common ground between suburban elitists (your words) and deplorables (a word I hate because Hillary coined it). I can’t win without both. Can you help me with that or not?

    487. jason says:

      Neither will Coke or Pepsi.

      Maybe they think not only liberals drink their products.

      Smart. They are no Starbucks.

    488. lisab says:

      pepsi is very progressive

    489. Bitterlaw says:

      Bruce – I thought lisab and I were HHR friends, too. I was obviously wrong. I don’t know where this hostility came from.

    490. jason says:

      you are openly hostile to people I need to vote for me as well the other people I also need to vote for me. ”

      This is a lie, of course. I never said I was hostile to ANY R voters.

      In any case, my contribution would have been to suggest ideas you could use to differentiate yourself from conventional campaigns, which I think you would have to do in an uphill race.

      But let’s drop it, you are more interested in attacking me than benefiting your campaign.

    491. Bitterlaw says:

      Ok, Jason. I do think you could help me. You have run successful campaigns.

    492. Brucefdb says:

      Maybe she’s not as hostile as you think Bitter.

      She likes to poke people and see what they do. I don’t think she means you harm, probably even likes you, but she won’t let you have the last word.

    493. NYCmike says:

      D

    494. lisab says:

      She likes to poke people and see what they do.
      —————————

      not in this case

      he has said many times he is suicidal — that is not a joke

      he should NOT be in congress

    495. NYCmike says:

      “but she won’t let you have the last word.”

      -With all of the new 57 genders/types of ketchup, the woman still gets the last word!!??

      Fight the matriarchy!

    496. NYCmike says:

      “he should NOT be in congress”

      -Definitely have a different take on this. I look at it as another form of term limits.

    497. Bitterlaw says:

      I will not drop it, A-hole. You have attacked me, too. I am willing to move forward. A-holes should not remain sore at each other.

      If you want to help, I need it. It is easy to find me in the real world.

    498. jason says:

      You have run successful campaigns”

      Never ran one. I just worked on a few.

      But let’s drop it.

    499. lisab says:

      I look at it as another form of term limits.
      —————-

      lol

      but still (yellow card)

    500. Bitterlaw says:

      Bruce – Lisab was always poking fun of people. I accepted it. This is new.

    501. Bitterlaw says:

      At least I added to my novel today. Lisab yo say that I am too old to publish a first novel and it is going to suck anyway in 3…2…1…b

    502. lisab says:

      you were not trying to be congressman before

    503. lisab says:

      Laura Ingalls Wilder was in her 60’s

    504. jason says:

      Why there is not likely to be any “common ground”.

      “Now, it seems that Cheney might be reaping the consequences of her vote. Gaetz is traveling to her home state of Wyoming on Thursday. He will hold an event outside the state capitol to call for her removal from her leadership position in the House.

      “By embracing the language and the arguments of the radical left instead of the America First movement, Liz Cheney is spitting into the eyes of tens of millions of Americans,” Gaetz insisted last week during an interview with Fox Business.

      But Gaetz isn’t the only one targeting Rep. Cheney. Fox News reported that “more than half of “House Republicans members are backing an effort to remove Cheney from her leadership role.”

      Several Wyoming GOP organizations censured Cheney for her vote.

      Meanwhile, three GOP county organizations in Wyoming have censured Cheney for her impeachment vote.

      After the 2020 elections, the conservative movement is angry and fired up. But their anger isn’t directed only at Democrats and the activist media; rank-and-file conservatives are also enraged with the Republican establishment that people like Cheney represent.

      If this backlash is any indication, Cheney isn’t the only lawmaker who should be fearing for her seat. Moreover, now that it is clear that Trump will be a major player during the midterm season, conservatives will be more likely to show up in force. If the non-establishment types show up in greater numbers during the primary season, other establishment figures will face a serious reckoning.”

    505. NYCmike says:

      lisab, through her voting record, laughs at guys like those in the previous clip.

      And YES, as Bitterlaw said, this is new, the level she is taking this to.

      Makes sense in some ways, actually…..she has always voted for the candidate who wants more government (state/federal power).

    506. Bitterlaw says:

      You don’t have a veto over my life. You will try. I know it.

    507. NYCmike says:

      Copying and pasting previous comments can be funny…..I know mine are fair game to be used in such a way.

      To start threatening someone with using them elsewhere….different words for that.

    508. lisab says:

      she has always voted for the candidate who wants more government
      ——————–

      no, for the most part i hate bigger government

      it takes away individual liberties

    509. Bitterlaw says:

      For all I know, 20 people who lisab would approve of getting the nomination may want it. But if I do get it, Jason can ask himself “Do I want Bitterlaw or the Democrat in Congress?” I know he could help me but I alienated him by my stupidly worded post. I regret it but will move on out of respect for him.

    510. Bitterlaw says:

      NYC – lisab hates bigger government but wastes her vote on big government fringe candidates. That way she can vote for what she wants but pretend to be an independent minded voter.

    511. NYCmike says:

      Sure, lisab, you voted for the candidate who wants smaller, less intrusive government……like the Green Party candidate in 2016.

    512. Brucefdb says:

      Bitter, the opposition can make stuff up about you out of thin air….put it on fliers and stick it in people’s mailboxes….make tv ads that are total distortions….why worry about Lisa?

    513. lisab says:

      well if i voted for the “lessor of two evils”

      then the party will simply run someone who will completely ignore me 99% of the time and say … “well 1% of the time we listen, you would get 0% from the other guy”

      but if the third part has numbers that would have won them the election, they will listen more

    514. lisab says:

      like the Green Party candidate in 2016.
      ———–

      see #521

    515. NYCmike says:

      Good reasoning…….kind of like Robbie with his “impeachment of Trump is good long-term for the Republican Party”.

    516. JeffP says:

      Josh Hawley approval rating…100%… The guy is sharp and tough. He might be the best of the elected Senators during Trumps reign. His exposing and take down of Zuckerberg at the last hearing on social media was a thing of beauty.

    517. lisab says:

      Good reasoning…….kind of like Robbie with his “impeachment of Trump is good long-term for the Republican Party”.
      ———————-

      robbie wanted trump to lose

      i want the third party candidate to get more votes than separated the two main candidates

      in this case i hope kanye would get enough votes to make the dems worry about minority votes

    518. Bitterlaw says:

      Bruce – I actually am looking forward to negative ads. It means I am a threat.

      What can they say about me. “What kind of man is Bitterlaw? He spends hundreds of hours a year with teenagers!” Or “Bitterlaw spends winter weekends with sweaty high school girls wearing shorts.”

    519. Bitterlaw says:

      “Bitterlaw says he loves coaching. Then why is he so bad at it?”

    520. lisab says:

      What can they say about me
      ————

      oh oh … i know! i know!

    521. Bitterlaw says:

      I know you do, lisab. Bring it.

    522. lisab says:

      What can they say about me
      ————

      well … again let’s start with, (because it is the easiest)

      he hates trump!

    523. lisab says:

      he hates trump!
      ——————-

      ** boom ** done!

    524. Bitterlaw says:

      I voted for somebody I hate. Pretty common here and certainly not disqualifying.

    525. lisab says:

      Pretty common here and certainly not disqualifying.
      ——————-

      tell that to the deplorables

    526. lisab says:

      i know that you guys really loved trump

      but i hate him and would cross the street to avoid shaking his hand … and i completely disagree with any of his policies which were not supported by romney and mcconnell

      but … you should vote for me

    527. jason says:

      More companies avoiding the woke NFL…

      “The result has been that the Super Bowl will not sell out of its ad spots this year, the paper reported. And some of the companies opting out have been with the NFL’s biggest game for over a decade.

      Coca-Cola is out this year, the report said. So is Hyundai, Olay, Avocados From Mexico, Little Caesars, and Ford Motors. Most of these companies have had a Super Bowl ad every year since 2010.”

    528. lisab says:

      they probably don’t want to lower the price of ads

    529. Brucefdb says:

      Lisa. If he said he loved Trump (like I do) he would never get the nomination.

      In fact he would be on a domestic terrorist list by 2022.

    530. jason says:

      This is good practice for Bitter.

      lisab thanks for taking me up on my idea of seeing how Bitter does under relentless attack.

    531. jason says:

      they probably don’t want to lower the price of ads”

      Right… but they did lower them by about $100k a minute.

    532. Chicon says:

      535 – Jason, any reason listed for the companies not advertising at the Super Bowl? Most companies are woke to one degree or another, so I’d guess it has more to do with economic factors.

    533. lisab says:

      Lisa. If he said he loved Trump (like I do) he would never get the nomination.
      ———————————

      yes, but he will probably try to “finesse” his answer — as opposed to telling the truth — thinking the stupid deplorables will never notice

      q: do you like trump?

      bitter: i think he had some good policies as president, i liked his court picks

      q: but do you like trump

      bitter: well … he brought in many new voters and made some inroads in minority voting groups … yes … i liked that

      q: but as a person?
      bitter: I HATE HIM OK … STOP ASKING ME!

    534. lisab says:

      seriously …

      what percent of trump voters … not the gope voters … i mean the people who liked trump as president

      would vote for a nominee who openly says he hates trump? 5%, 10% more?

      and now subtract that percent from a 52%D 48%R base election

    535. lisab says:

      seriously …

      what percent of trump voters … not the gope voters … i mean the people who liked trump as president

      would **NOT** vote for a nominee who openly says he hates trump? 5%, 10% more?

      and now subtract that percent from a 52%D 48%R base election

    536. Bitterlaw says:

      I see that lisab, who is too stupid to read a map, thinks I am incapable of explains a very simple position on Trump:

      1. I disliked him as a person.
      2. I supported him as President twice becauseI thought his policies were better than those of either Clinton or Biden.
      3. Neither 1 nor 2 has anything to do with how you are going to pay your mortgage next month or protect your family so let’s discuss issues…

    537. Bitterlaw says:

      Bruce – You are late to the hate Bitter show so let me clear up the lies. I do not hate deplorables, (but I do hate Hillary’s word for them). I said the GOP has to build the party with them and more traditional Republicans – Hundreds of posts since Election Day. I have said since 2004 at HHR that the Republican Party must reach out to minority voters. I have opposed illegal immigration since the beginning at HHR. However, I refuse to accept Phil’s idea that ethnicity is unalterable political destiny. There is no Democrat gene, Biden wasted no time in saying that amnesty is coming in 8 years, We either figure out how to fight for those votes or lose a lot of elections. To believe that Hispanics are lost forever to the GOP is defeatist b.s.

    538. Bitterlaw says:

      534 is another blatant lie. Ok, math whiz. If 90-95% of Republican voters voted for Trump and the evil Establishment is more than 10% of the GOP, then a lot of the evil Establishment had to vote for Trump.

      If you think you have to personally love everybody you vote for then you obviously never lived in Philadelphia.

    539. lisab says:

      thinks I am incapable of explains a very simple position on Trump
      ————————–

      nice try with the finessing,

      good luck with that among deplorables

      (the part about crossing the street to avoid shaking his hand and hating him are quotes)

    540. Bitterlaw says:

      For somebody who claims that she will not use leak my HHR posts to the other side, lisab came right out the shoot with my comment that I would not shake Trump’s hand. Pretty specific for somebody who is NOT preparing a list.

    541. Wes says:

      At this point, I’m waiting for Chicon to create a pejorative for Trump supporters while lying and claiming Bitterlaw thinks of them that way even though Bitter has never used the word on this blog.

      That’s the level of discourse I’m seeing in the attacks on Bitter right now.

    542. lisab says:

      so you plan to lie?

    543. Wes says:

      For the record, I think Bitter is foolish in his adulation of GWB’s folly in Iraq, but I will contribute to his congressional run. I don’t care what he thinks of Trump personally. He voted for the man twice.

      That should be enough.

    544. Bitterlaw says:

      I won’t lie. People will like my answers or they won’t. The idea that a woman from Massachusetts who bounced around the US and now lives in Minnesota is determined to prevent somebody she has never met from being elected to Congress from PA is absurd and scary at the same time. This vendetta raises questions about HER sanity.

    545. lisab says:

      and now lives in Minnesota is determined to prevent somebody …
      ————————-

      as i said … i won’t be the one who rats you out …

      you may think it was me … but nope … soooooo won’t be me … 🙂

    546. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes- lisab can’t read a map but can read the minds of voters in my area – an area she has never visited.

    547. Wes says:

      You’ll have to explain the whole map thing to me, Bitter.

    548. lisab says:

      wes,

      i am guessing he thinks i should not be concerned or have an opinion about a person with suicidal thoughts is running for congress as long as he is not from my state

    549. Bitterlaw says:

      Lisab claimed that because there is no McDonald’s in my area (Radnor Township) that I live in area that hates Deplorables. I pointed out that there is a McDonalds in town. She then flipped out because the address on their website said Bryn Mawr and not Radnor. I explained that Radnor Township has historical named areas but these are not separate towns. For example, within Radnor Township there are areas called Wayne, Ithan, Villanova, Rosemont, St. David’s, Garrett Hill and Newtown Square, Bryn Mawr is divided between Radnor Township (Delaware County) and Lower Merion Township (Montgomery County), it is somehow a slur against Deplorables that the McDonald’s is not allowed to be in Radnor (but it actually is). Got it?

    550. Bitterlaw says:

      You should want me to win and then kill myself. You can take joy in being right. If a Democrat is the next Governor, they can appoint a Dem to my seat. Win-Win for you.

    551. Wes says:

      Uh huh, Bitter. She’s loony, but we knew that already.

    552. Wes says:

      Um, Bitter, Governors can appoint only Senators, not Congressmen.

    553. Bitterlaw says:

      I used to find her amusing at times. Then she turned on me for some unknown reason.

    554. lisab says:

      You should want me to win and then kill myself.
      ————————-

      i neither want you to win or kill yourself

      both can be true

    555. Bitterlaw says:

      Sorry, Wes. It was an honest error. It is almost 1:00 am. I spent the day working on my novel. I knew as I hit send it would be caught.

    556. Bitterlaw says:

      Why do you care if I win or not? If you ran for anything, I would say Good Luck and that would be the end of it. It would be unfortunate a Republican did not defeat you but if a utopian socialist could win an election, it is unlikely the GOP had any chance.

    557. Wes says:

      I can see I haven’t missed much on here. Good luck with the novel, Bitter. I myself am working on a horror story about a girl with severe nyctophobia I got inspiration for from a conversation I had recently. Working on that has been a lot more fun than reading the infighting I see on here whenever I drop in.

    558. Bitterlaw says:

      I’m out. Goodnight, lisab. Keep showing your concern for me by compiling lists of my flaws and hoping I lose.

    559. lisab says:

      Why do you care if I win or not?
      ————————————–

      because you are self-admittedly suicidal — that is not normal

      i don’t want one of the most powerful people in the country to be mentally ill

      but … don’t worry, i won’t rat you out … someone probably will, but it won’t be me

    560. lisab says:

      oh … also you get that even if you were stable

      we would not agree on most social policies, so i’d still vote against you?

      (although in fairness, that you hate trump, would not bother me personally)

    561. lisab says:

      in fairness … i personally don’t hate trump,

      but i don’t care if you do

    562. lisab says:

      keep showing your concern for me by compiling lists of my flaws and hoping I lose.
      ——————————

      you do NOT show concern for the mentally ill by ignoring their illness

      that everyone else on hhr is fine with you being suicidal,

      actually is the opposite of them being supportive

    563. Bitterlaw says:

      You are not credible. A few days ok you said I was only qualified to be on the Township council or school board. You also said I would be a good coach. No reservations stated about my mental health for those positions.

    564. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      567. “because you are self-admittedly suicidal — that is not normal.”

      Actually some major leaders in history expressed suicidal thoughts — including Abraham Lincoln, Winston Churchill and Martin Luther King. People often in candid moments will express them. As far as someone “ratting” on Bitter — if the congressional race is competitive, his opponent will being doing opposition research that will learn everything about Bitter.

      I doubt they would use depression/suicidal thoughts as a campaign issue. It could backfire, and give Bitter free publicity and a sympathy vote. Thomas Eagleton’s brought the issue of mental health to the forefront in 1972 when he got pushed off the Democratic ticket — people were surprised over the amount of public support Eagleton received as a result. George McGovern later stated that forcing Eagleton off the ticket was a mistake. I frankly think it is a non-issue, and getting old.

    565. Thomas A says:

      Lisab=No life

    566. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Looks like Romney is a one-term senator for Utah:

      “A new Deseret News/Hinckley Institute of Politics poll found 64% of Republicans in the state disapprove of his job performance, including half who strongly disapprove.

      While the first-term senator’s overall 50% approval rating among Utah voters is only slightly lower than where it has been the past year, his 46% disapproval in the latest survey is higher than ever.”

      Democrats may approve of him now, but they will not make him their senate nominee in 2024. Romney will not get the Utah Republican nomination, and would likely lose badly in the primary. My hunch is he retires.

    567. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Last night, only 3 Republican Senators sat in the Senate Chamber during the reading of the Impeachment Articles. They were: Mitt Romney, Mitch McConnell and Roger Marshall(KS).
      It appears that most Republicans are dissing the House over this charade although and with complete certitude, things will become sober and serious when Eric Swallwell(D-CA) makes his presentation.(sarc)

      By the way, Richard Burr(R-NC) is a NO.The number of confirmed NO’s is now 31.Three more nays end this public circus.

    568. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Can Mitch McConnell be this obtuse by taking the promises of two Democrat Senators, Manchin(WV) and Sinema(AZ) about not voting to end the Senate filibuster rules? I guess so. It’s a very dangerous political move by him.

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/25/with-democrat-path-to-nuclear-option-on-filibuster-closed-senate-leaders-proceed-on-power-sharing-agreement/

    569. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Messy and Other Trolls:
      So what’s the reason/excuse for this? I know, Trump hot wired murderers’ brains! Biden to the rescue-LOL!
      Bitter, this is the issue to run on.

      Homicide rate increases in 2020

      One of the highest single-year surges in US history

      Milwaukee – 95%
      Louisville – 78%
      Minneapolis – 72%
      Chicago – 55%
      Memphis – 51%
      Houston – 42%
      NYC – 39%
      Philadelphia – 35%
      LA – 33%
      https://npr.org/2021/01/06/953254623/massive-1-year-rise-in-homicide-rates-collided-with-the-pandemic-in-2020

    570. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      To my pleasant surprise, Maria Bartiromo had the 7:00 p.m. slot on FOX News last night. The delightful Southern Belle, Dagen McDowell, had Bartiromo’s 6:00 – 9:00 a.m slot today on FOX Business News.
      If this becomes permanent, FOX will have taken a good step toward redemption with its base viewers. I never understood what Martha McCollum added to the FOX line-up.
      If FOX replaces Brett Bair with Harris Faulkner and Neil Cavuto with just about anybody, I will return to the network.
      Of course, Chris Wallace should go and Brit Hume can replace him on Sunday mornings, but it is mostly irrelevant since only a few watch the Sunday talking head shows.

    571. jason says:

      Working on that has been a lot more fun than reading the infighting I see on here whenever I drop in”

      Some people like wes have real lives that don’t involve infighting.

      Must be really something.

    572. jason says:

      f this becomes permanent, FOX will have taken a good step toward redemption with its base viewers.”

      I will check Maria out at 7 PM, Sheep.

      And the delightful Dagen too.

    573. jason says:

      It’s a very dangerous political move by him.”

      The fact is, even if he had in writing, the Dems could violate it.

      But it IS dangerous because after the Rs don’t go along with some of the extreme agenda, Manchin and Sinema will claim they have no choice but to go back on their word.

    574. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #580-jason
      Dagen is proud of her Southern heritage. This will be a turnoff for Bitterlaw!

    575. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #581-jason
      100% agree that McConnell capitulated and got nothing in return and Manchin, Sinema etc could/will change their minds and blame GOP obstruction for their doing so.

    576. jason says:

      LOL…Biden says what everyone knows, the Dems don’t have the votes to impeach.

      “President Joe Biden cast doubt Monday on the ability of the Senate to convict former President Donald Trump– just as House impeachment managers were transmitting a formal article to the chamber that will set in motion his historic trial.

      Biden, who served for decades in the Senate and once chaired the Judiciary Committee, low-balled the chance of success for Democratic managers before they had even begun to make their case.

      ‘The Senate has changed since I was there, but it hasn’t changed that much,’ he told a CNN reporter Monday evening, after a weekend where Senate Republicans appeared to be lining up against the impeachment trial.”

    577. jason says:

      If you think Trump will be convicted, you can invest $800 at Predictit and get about $6400 if he is convicted.

      Good bet for the trolls.

    578. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #584- Phil and jason
      I know that the two of you dabble in the PredictIt markets. I do not.
      If you move quickly, you can probably make a chunk of change on whether Ricard Burr(R-NC) will vote for Impeachment Conviction. The NO market has stayed at $.81 even though Burr has stated, in writing, that he is a NO vote.

    579. jason says:

      Yeah, Burr is free money.

    580. Wes says:

      Jason, Trump has already been impeached. The Dems plus 10 GOP turncoats voted to impeach him.

    581. jason says:

      But I don’t know when this market will resolve, there is talk about another delay, so I am not tying up $800 to maybe get $150 less the transaction fee.

    582. jason says:

      Poor bastards that bet on the Tenney-Brindisi race have not seen any money yet.

    583. jason says:

      Jason, Trump has already been impeached.”

      Correct. I meant conviction. I fixed it on the subsequent post.

      “If you think Trump will be convicted, you can invest $800 at Predictit and get about $6400 if he is convicted.”

    584. Wes says:

      I actually don’t think Dems will try to eliminate the filibuster for a couple of reasons:

      1) It’s not clear Harris can vote on Senate rules.

      2) A few Dem Senators have GOP Governors. If a Harrison Williams or Paul Coverdell situation occurs, Dems lose the Senate.

      Ergo, I’m not sold on Schumer’s trying to eliminate the filibuster with his nominal majority on a knife’s edge.

      Also, Dems became arrogant under Harry Reid and cost themselves a larger majority by their overreach in 2013 and 2014. Schumer doesn’t seem like a forgetful pol and would be cautious about antagonizing voters in a Biden midterm.

    585. jason says:

      I was thinking Rand Paul had a good idea, boycotting the trial.

      But that reduces the number of votes needed for conviction to 66, so it is not a good idea.

      You need a 2/3 vote, not a 2/3 senate.

    586. jason says:

      wes makes good arguments, but there is another side.

      Many Dems probably do think Rs will win the House in 2022, so they view this as a “last chance” to enact a radical agenda.

      Plus the pressure from their base is immense.

      So they might overreach anyway.

    587. jason says:

      Walt, why don’t you start a petition for Manchin to switch parties.

      As a former delegate, you have the “gravitas” to do it, and it will probably generate a lot of press and you will get a lot of signatures.

      He is liberal, won’t do it, but it might pressure him on some of his votes.

    588. jason says:

      He is A liberal, that should read.

    589. jason says:

      1) It’s not clear Harris can vote on Senate rules.”

      Interesting.

      And a tie vote fails, right?

    590. Wes says:

      Correct, Jason. A tie is a fail. If Harris can’t vote on Senate rules, Dems can’t eliminate the filibuster.

    591. jason says:

      Texas Senator Ted Cruz and five other Republican senators have, once again, reintroduced a constitutional amendment that would limit the number of years a person can serve in the Senate to twelve (two terms).”

      I never agreed with term limits. Elections are the term limits.

    592. jason says:

      The impeachment article says that during an address to supporters on Wednesday, Trump “willfully made statements that, in context, encouraged — and foreseeably resulted in — lawless action at the Capitol, such as: ‘if you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a county anymore.’”

      I bet you can find hundreds if not thousands of similar quotes from Democrats.

    593. jason says:

      Leahy, arguably the most partisan guy in the Senate, is presiding over the fake trial.

      Yet, Dems say he should still be able to vote.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    594. jason says:

      The Dems should be embarrassed Roberts refused to preside over the trial.

      But of course they are not.

    595. Gordon Allen says:

      A telling refusal by Roberts.FWIW where does it say in the Constitution the Senate can appoint a replacement??

    596. jason says:

      Leahy should at least have the decency of saying he won’t vote.

    597. Phil says:

      When you look in the dictionary under the word decency you definitely will not find a picture of Leahy.

    598. Phil says:

      Hey, were the troops in DC able to hold back the hordes of Trump insurrectionists for another night?
      /

    599. JeffP says:

      Trump effect…he spoke directly to the base and they felt represented…hence why the Liz Cheney’s of the GOP don’t have a chance to rule from their ivory tower without serious push back.

    600. Chicon says:

      549 – I see that Wes still can’t read or is a liar.

      I have not personally attacked Bitter; I like him and think he is a good man. The country would benefit from having him in Congress. Where I disagree with him, I tell him, but i believe our interactions to be civil. He can correct me if I am wrong.

      Wes, I still hope you’re able to get a paid gig using your expertise, which we all know is substantial.

    601. jason says:

      About 50 million people in the US have either had the virus or have gotten at least one shot.

      That is about a quarter of the adult population. If one out of 4 adults is no longer spreading the virus, we should see some pretty impressive decreases in cases and deaths very soon.

      The 7 day average on Jan 12 was 250k. Yesterday the 7 day average was 175k.

    602. jason says:

      The non-partisan and impartial “judge” of the Senate trial.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

      “Patrick Leahy January 6, 2021, will forever mark a day of infamy for our nation. It will be remembered because our beloved Capitol building — the very heart of our democracy — was stormed and laid under siege. Rioters broke through windows, doors, and security barriers in both the Senate and House wings of the Capitol, assaulting Capitol Police officers, leaving a wake of destruction, and forcing me and other Members of Congress to temporarily delay fulfilling our constitutional duty to certify the presidential election.

      It will be remembered because the President of the United States encouraged his supporters to commit these felonies — to march to the Capitol, “to show strength,” and “to fight.” And it will be remembered because, even before all of that, more than 100 Members of the House and a dozen Senators supported a ploy to deprive the states and the American people of their constitutional role to choose our next president. This political stunt amounted to nothing less than an assault on our constitutional republic.”

    603. jason says:

      Leahy should recuse himself. He won’t.

    604. jason says:

      I see that Wes still can’t read or is a liar.”

      Here at HHR we like to give everyone an option…

    605. Chicon says:

      Options are nice.

    606. Phil says:

      There you go, Jason. Biden has cut the spread of the virus by a quarter and he’s only been in office a week.

      Just think how many more lives can be saved if ex President Trump can be convicted by the Senate.

    607. Bitterlaw says:

      Breaking News – lisab researching whether the 25th Amendment can be used to remove Bitterlaw as a poster at HHR.

    608. Bitterlaw says:

      I should thank lisab for giving me the warning on how she is going to leak details of my HHR posts to the other side. I was worried it would be the Kate Upton Cat Daddy video

      https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=kate+upton+cat+daddy&view=detail&mid=6027F5DD9DAA490B1B336027F5DD9DAA490B1B33&FORM=VIRE

      That would gain votes for me.

      Here is what I would say if asked about my previous references to suicide:

      I have had dark moments in my life. I was raised in a family where the prevailing attitude was why do you need to see a psychiatrist if you have vodka. Since I don’t drink, I kept my dark moments. I was stupid and dismissed those with depression as weak minded people who refused to just be strong and snap out of it. Then depression killed my niece and my world collapsed. Because fate has a darker sense of humor than I do, I also lost my job. I admit that not being alive had an appeal. But I am still here. And I plan to remain here. I endure.

    609. jason says:

      I volunteer to be the judge at the Bitter’s removal trial.

      I absolutely would not accept a WaWa $5000 gift card to render a verdict.

    610. Bitterlaw says:

      I would certainly not make an anonymous donation to the York County SPCA. A large shipment of llama food may be left near jason’s barn but I had nothing to do with it.

    611. Chicon says:

      At the risk of telling Bitter how to run his trial……I hear scrapple also makes for a nice anonymous gift. But, stay away from the tofu.

    612. WizardofCozz says:

      Not much to worry about on the tofu front since TGCA left!!

    613. Brucefdb says:

      Bitter 616 you certainly don’t mind baring your soul. I don’t think lisab can ruin your chances, only you can do that by being obsessed with her judgements.

    614. Brucefdb says:

      Over the years Bitter it is my observation that you are the most popular poster at HHR for a lot of reasons. So using your gifts to run for office, even if it is a long shot, makes sense.

    615. Chicon says:

      621 – baring one’s soul on the internet has risks. Lots of cases where a tweet from years back causes problems for an athlete, entertainer or politician. I hope nothing he has written here hurts Bitter in any way, and I hope he moves forward with his plans.

    616. Bitterlaw says:

      You are the most popular poster at HHR for a lot of reasons.

      I would say most talked about. Popular? I have amassed a huge number of GFYs.

    617. Bitterlaw says:

      I hope nothing he has written here hurts Bitter in any way.

      10,000 GFYs
      5,000 WTFs
      8 years of A-hole jokes
      Kate Upton videos
      Making fun of Scooter being deaf
      Making fun of everybody for something
      Directing my comments to a cow

      Nope. Nothing there.

    618. Chicon says:

      Bitter, you are talked about often here, but I think one has you beat. Who?

    619. Bitterlaw says:

      Robbie.

    620. Bitterlaw says:

      But Robbie posts are not nearly as far ranging as mine.

    621. Chicon says:

      Bitter, Wes wrote the following last night:

      “At this point, I’m waiting for Chicon to create a pejorative for Trump supporters while lying and claiming Bitterlaw thinks of them that way even though Bitter has never used the word on this blog.

      That’s the level of discourse I’m seeing in the attacks on Bitter right now.”

      Do you believe I have done this to you? Do you believe I have treated you unfairly? You’ve been personally attacked here recently; in your mind, am I one of the attackers?

      Look up irony in the dictionary, and the example used would be Wes whining about the level of discourse.

    622. Bitterlaw says:

      Chi – The attacks blur together. I think Jason lies about me all the time but I did call him a llama f’ing moron so fair us fair. I do not recall any specific offending posts by you. I supposedly look down on deplorables but those posts are never produced. I am an unemployed depressed dude. I can’t look down on anybody from the basement of my life.

      Maybe Wes confused you with him. However, Wes is a bright guy and may catch things I missed. I will leave him to explain his posts. I have had plenty of disagreements with you but it is always in HHR bounds (which is far outside of how people act in the real world)

    623. Bitterlaw says:

      I wrote the beginning and end of my novel 10 years ago. Writing the middle is a pain.

    624. jason says:

      Bitter is indeed a strong candidate for most popular, although Cash Cow would be tough to beat in a popularity contest.

      Robbie Goebbels might win the most despised contest hands down.

    625. Chicon says:

      630 – I don’t care much about what Wes thinks, but it is important to me that you know that I think you are a good person, and that the country would benefit from having you in Congress. Now, GFY.

    626. jason says:

      I think Jason lies about me all the time”

      Zzzzzz…..

      I bet you can’t name ONE “lie” I said about you.

      Interpreting what I say as a “lie” does not make it a lie.

      If I say you are a suburban elitist, for example, is that a lie, or is it just my opinion based on your posts?

      If I say you are overly concerned with the suburban vote and less concerned with the “deplorable” vote, is that a lie or just my opinion based on your posts?

      You “lie” about me all the time. You say I don’t watch football because the Broncos suck. That is a lie, but you probably believe it. You think I no longer vote because I want people to “look at me”. Another lie, but maybe it is just your opinion.

      GFY.

    627. jason says:

      but I did call him a llama f’ing moron”

      You did? I must have forgotten.

      Did you give me the points later?

    628. Bitterlaw says:

      All points not redeemed the day the insult is posted are invalid and deemed waived. Don’t you read the manual?

    629. jason says:

      But Robbie posts are not nearly as far ranging as mine.”

      This is true. We can condense Robbie Goebbel’s posts over the last 15 years into three limited categories.

      1) MSM and leftist site talking points of the day.

      2) All Rs on the ballot suck, their campaigns suck, and the Dems facing them are formidable candidates likely to win.

      3) Cherry picked polls that support his narrative.

      4) Jeb!

    630. Wes says:

      To clarify things, since obviously English is Chicon’s 675th language, I never said he HAD made verbal attacks on Bitter. I said I was WAITING FOR some form of sophomoric attack.

      Why did I say that?

      Well, I did see a number of attacks on Bitter from other posters, most notably Lisa.

      I made the dig at Chicon because he pulled the term “knuckledraggers” out of his ass and tried to indicate Robbie and I thought of Trump supporters that way. Neither Robbie nor I have used that term, and Chicon just created it as a pejorative and tried to attribute it to us.

      As such, given the various other attacks I saw against Bitter, I merely stated I was waiting for Chicon to jump into the melee and lob a barb at Bitter as he tried to do to Robbie and me.

      I hope that clears things up.

    631. jason says:

      All points not redeemed the day the insult is posted are invalid and deemed waived. Don’t you read the manual?”

      You didn’t the asterisk and the footnote on page 341. It says if the intended points recipient is not aware of the post meriting the points said recipient has 360 calendar days to redeem the referenced points, subject to a 25% (twenty five percent) deduction for the extra point processing required.

    632. jason says:

      knuckledraggers” out of his ass and tried to indicate Robbie and I thought of Trump supporters that way. Neither Robbie nor I have used that term,”

      This is certainly true.

      That would be an endearment from Robbie Goebbels, his descriptions of Trump supporters are much worse than that.

    633. Chicon says:

      638 – it does clear things up; you were merely ignorant rather than a liar.

    634. Bitterlaw says:

      I don’t think HHR Gate will have much of an impact. Especially if I can get Dave to lock the Annals.

      I feel sorry for the opposition research team.

      “What do you have?”

      “He got in an argument with a guy from Texas about the designated hitter. That guy called him a Philly A-hole. He liked it.”

      Of course, the real danger is the secret weapon, MD.

    635. Wes says:

      Ignorance implies lack of knowledge, Chicon. I’m fully aware of the facts.

      You did try to say Robbie and I consider Trump supporters knuckledraggers, Chicon, until I called you out on it and sent you backpedaling.

      Bitterlaw was a target for other posters.

      Given your previous statement, I made a dig at you using yesterday’s events on the blog.

      Nothing was ignorant about it.

    636. Cash Cow TM says:

      “jason says:
      January 26, 2021 at 9:22 am
      Walt, why don’t you start a petition for Manchin to switch parties.”

      Walt said to tell you he is not interested in doing that.

      He does not care any more about a lot of things, though Cash Cow is still engaged.

      Walt said he is not interested in starting any petition, plus he has this never ending chore list Mrs. Walt concocts…

    637. Bitterlaw says:

      Walt seems to be slowing down. I guess after 4.5 billion years he is entitled to time off.

    638. Wes says:

      Walt crossed the Delaware with Washington, signed the Declaration of Independence, and, under the influence of his 256th wife, advocated passage of the 18th and 19th Amendments. It says a lot that a petition to get Manchin to switch parties is too much even for him.

    639. Bitterlaw says:

      Manchin keeps getting elected as a liberal in a very conservative state. Why switch parties? He just has vote for a few Federal judges and not name anything after himself and the West Virginia voters keep sending back to DC as a “moderate.”

    640. Cash Cow TM says:

      AOC wants Manchin to change his name to PERSONchin.

    641. Cash Cow TM says:

      Bitter,

      Wishing you well on your working on your novel.

      Walt is still dealing with correcting typos, etc. on the book he wrote. The job of doing that is a bitch.

    642. jason says:

      Bitter, don’t worry about the A-hole Club vaults, they are sealed.

    643. jason says:

      Awww…. shucks…

      BREAKING: Biden furious at Gavin Newsom for lifting stay-at-home order. Thinks he is only doing it out of re-election fears. “Steam coming out of his ears,” per WH official.

    644. jason says:

      Manchin keeps getting elected as a liberal in a very conservative state. Why switch parties?”

      True, but he only squeaked through by 20k votes last time.

      Plus he if switched he would have much better committee assignments.

    645. jason says:

      Walt said he is not interested in starting any petition, plus he has this never ending chore list Mrs. Walt concocts”

      Tell him he is a lazy hen pecked bastard.

    646. Bitterlaw says:

      Walt really got screwed out of the credit for writing the Book of Genesis.

    647. NYCmike says:

      “Interpreting what I say as a “lie” does not make it a lie.”

      -Translation: jason comes clean about 95% of his comments on HHR.

    648. Chicon says:

      Wes, I haven’t backed down on anything. I still believe that your writings suggest you believe a large portion of Trump supporters are uneducated, uncouth knuckle draggers. For the record, I am proud to include myself in that group.

      You and Robbie can barely stomach the thought of having them in the party; but you will do so as long as you are never asked to vote for one of us.

      That said, I respect your knowledge of the political science, and continue to hope you find employment using said knowledge. Your smarts are wasted here.

    649. NYCmike says:

      “Robbie Goebbels might win the most despised contest hands down.”

      -I don’t despise anyone on HHR.

      In Robbie’s case, I feel pity for him, as well as “CG”, as the anger their hearts contain can only hurt themselves long-term.

    650. NYCmike says:

      #656 – ditto

    651. Brucefdb says:

      651 – “BREAKING: Biden furious at Gavin Newsom for lifting stay-at-home order. Thinks he is only doing it out of re-election fears. “Steam coming out of his ears,” per WH official.”

      LOL, this would have you believe Biden can think. Although the visual of steam coming out of his ears is believable and may indicate brain activity, probably thinking of little girls.

    652. NYCmike says:

      Mike Lindell was just on with Mark Steyn on the Rush Limbaugh Show.

      Gotta buy some more pillows!

    653. jason says:

      Translation: jason comes clean about 95% of his comments on HHR.”

      Liar.

    654. Phil says:

      “In Robbie’s case, I feel pity for him, as well as Corey’

      Yeah, anyone that is that eaten up with obsessive hate for anyone has a self imposed miserable existence.

    655. Chicon says:

      661 – what was the lie, the number? I kid, I kid.

    656. Chicon says:

      662 – self-imposed miserable existence is good. Might need to borrow that.

    657. jason says:

      Lindell might run for Gov in MN.

      I want everyone here to fill in for me, send him a check.

      Tks.

      Note: there is a rumor he might come out with some llama wool duvets soon, in which case I will indirectly contribute to his campaign.

    658. Wobbles says:

      Damm, self imposed miserable existence describes me to a T.

      Credit Phil with a bullseye strike there.

    659. BayernFan says:

      Mass murder in Indianapolis over the weekend. 6 shot dead by a juvenile family member. Local media sanctimoniously declines to name the alleged 17 yo shooter. Social media, otoh, not only identifies him, but describes his motive AND links to his youtube rap videos, most of which show him and his friends (including his older brother victim) glamorizing thug violence guns (including the murder weapon).

      traditional media is dying.

    660. Chicon says:

      Is this thing on?

    661. Wes says:

      You know, Chicon, I generally hate to use the term “offended” because it’s an overused dog whistle in today’s culture, but I really do find your accusation that I have contempt for Trump voters offensive.

      Let me tell you about three of the staunchest Trump supporters I know:

      My own mother runs a loan department at a bank. She got a job at the bank at 29 and worked her way up to the life she has now over the past 30 years. She is the primary reason I made it as far as I did in life, and I couldn’t love her or appreciate what she’s done for me more.

      My stepfather might as well be my real father because he’s honestly the only father figure I’ve had for 36 years. He’s a a retired exterminator who’s been battling cancer for three years.

      One of my cousins prematurely left high school but found stable employment driving a cleaner’s truck. He doesn’t have the greatest lifestyle, but he owns his own house and can pay all his own bills. Two or three times a week, I go to his house to smoke cigars with him.

      For you to say I don’t want people like that in the GOP is honestly ignorant and disgusting. It’s a personal affront because you’re literally saying I have nothing but contempt for the people I owe the most to and am closest to.

      I’m not going to sugarcoat things when I say what I’m about to say.

      You can go f uck yourself, you stupid sonofabitch.

    662. Brucefdb says:

      660 NYC That was great, Lindell is a brave man and recognizes how brave PDJT has been for the last 5 years. Big difference between them and the effete R’s that populate DC.

    663. NYCmike says:

      Wes doesn’t need a certificate for that!

      Nicely said!

      Chicon, you bring the best out in people!

      Good work all around, gents!

    664. NYCmike says:

      Bruce,

      Exactly.

    665. Gordon Allen says:

      Well we know now Murkowski is not running for re election as a Republican. We already knew Romney and Toomey aren’t. So there are 45 votes against conviction. This is a farce and will boomerang.

    666. Phil says:

      Well, the usual five useful idiots voted the show trial “constitutional”

      I’m shocked I say!

      Lol

    667. Chicon says:

      Wes, I’m not saying you should or shouldn’t be offended by someone’s opinion of your posts on an internet site. That’s up to you.

      I have no idea what you believe in real life. My comments are based on reading what you post here for years. There’s always been a sector of the party you look down upon, and barely tolerate. You verbally accost NYCMike on the topic ad nauseam.

      You constantly call people stupid here, and now you are hurt? Give me a break, crybaby.

    668. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes says what he thinks. He predicted early on that Trump would lose. I think that offended people who disliked his conclusion without fully reading his reasoning.

      HHR is prone to wishful thinking disguised as analysis. Polaris and Rdelbov were masters at this.

    669. Chicon says:

      671 – just saying what I think based on what I read, Mike.

      How do the Isles look with the Russian goalie?

      The Blackhawks are struggling, which is good. Toews is out with an illness that is very concerning, one young stud out for the year (Kirby Dach), and another project out for the year. The rebuild is on.

    670. Wes says:

      Crybaby, Chicon?

      Surely you can do better than that. Deflect all you want from what I said, but at least come up with a better responding insult.

    671. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Maybe GOP lawyers have found the equal to the Dems. Hawaii Judge. Good News!

      davidshepardson
      @davidshepardson
      ·
      3h
      RTRS: U.S. JUDGE BLOCKS BIDEN DEPORTATION FREEZE NATIONWIDE FOLLOWING LEGAL CHALLENGE BY TEXAS

    672. Chicon says:

      676 – Wes has been dogging parts of the Republican base since long before Trump came down the escalator. They were called deadenders forever. That’s not derogatory? And now he is offended? Pulease.

      He’s been telling all of us how smart he is (in some areas he is), and how dumb they are for years. Not just individuals, but whole states. West Virginia is stupid, en masse, because of Manchin. And New Jersey. Everybody is stupid, except Wes. And now he’s clutching pearls because I said his posts sound like he doesn’t want knuckle draggers like me in the party? C’mon man…..

    673. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes/Chicon – I think this has the makings of a really good fight. I could use a few hours off. Up your game and really go at it.

    674. Chicon says:

      Bitter, I don’t know how much time I will have. Gotta get out to the tractor pull.

      I’m just very surprised that the poster who perhaps uses the most insulting language with others, is also the most sensitive when he feels that it came back his way.

      Anyway, I continue to hope Wes finds a paying gig for his political knowledge to be put to good use.

    675. jaichind says:

      Note the governor of VT is a Republican

    676. jason says:

      Watching Maria Bartiromo.

      She has some high profile guests, no doubt, Rand Paul, Pompeo, Hawley…

      I like her, certainly an improvement.

    677. jason says:

      The VT governor is a Never Trumper like the MA and MD governors.

    678. Cash Cow TM says:

      Bitter,

      Is there going to be mention of a cow in your novel?
      *********************************************
      I hope so…

      (Walt wrote of several bulls that chased him in his book)

    679. Bitterlaw says:

      I will try to add in a cow. Maybe in the dedication.

    680. NYCmike says:

      I am sure that Bitterlaw will hand out some egg cremes in the book!

    681. NYCmike says:

      https://www.phillymag.com/news/2021/01/26/who-is-philly-fighting-covid/

      -Bets that somehow this kid’s companies were involved with the counting of ballots as well……

    682. jason says:

      Conviction down to 7% at Predictit.

      I am thinking of investing $800.

      If they find a tape of Trump secretly meeting with the Viking guy and telling him to personally hang Pence I could make $11400.

    683. NYCmike says:

      jason, was just going to post that, but with this comment:

      Will Kasich be the Democratic candidate for Ohio Senator?

    684. jason says:

      I doubt he could win a Dem primary.

      The Dems don’t respect turncoats, they despise them after they are no longer useful.

    685. jason says:

      Some good candidates there… Jordan, Mandel, Rennacci, Rose….

    686. jason says:

      So we know there will be at least 45 votes for acquittal.

      Why? Well, it would be hard to convict somebody in a trial you don’t consider constitutional.

      But it is possible a couple of the senators who voted the process constitutional could still vote to acquit. Maybe Collins.

    687. jason says:

      Toomey is really a despicable ass. I can’t believe he wants to be party to this.

    688. Chicon says:

      Toomey is no deplorable…..

    689. jason says:

      Seen on the Internet.

      Joe Biden takes a hour and a half to watch 60 minutes.

    690. NYCmike says:

      How long would he take to watch “24”?

    691. NYCmike says:

      DCC

    692. NYCmike says:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgEsUhHN3iQ

      -Hope we don’t come to this point, because I fear we don’t have anyone like Lincoln to see us through.

    693. NYCmike says:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le4Muw8_IEM

      -We could all learn something from this clip.

    694. NYCmike says:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VXI1l-pVC4

      -And from this one!

      I could see Bitterlaw crafting this yarn on the campaign trail!

    695. lisab says:

      Biden replaces disloyal National Guard troops with loyal Chinese army

      WASHINGTON, DC–President Biden isn’t taking any chances with security. He’s making sure that all the National Guard troops guarding the government in the nation’s capital are loyal to the government.

      To do so, he’s vetting the soldiers stationed there and replacing any who fail to pass the loyalty test with Chinese army troops sure to be loyal to him.

      “We’re not taking any chances with right-wing fringe or pro-Constitution nutbags with guns in the nation’s capital. We need only soldiers who are loyal to their overlords, the Communist Chinese Party,” Biden said in a press conference announcing the vetting process.

    696. lisab says:

      jason says:
      January 26, 2021 at 9:15 pm
      So we know there will be at least 45 votes for acquittal.

      Why? Well, it would be hard to convict somebody in a trial you don’t consider constitutional
      ————–

      unfortunately, the senate just installed dominion servers in the capital.

      it has already counted 15,000 senate votes for conviction.

      the gop leadership has said that if the trump team can show irrefutable evidence of fraud, instead of just wild qanon conspiracy theories about likely outcomes with only 100 senators, they would be willing to listen

    697. Brucefdb says:

      lisab 705 you might be a lot of things but you can be very funny. Of course you might also be right.

    698. Bitterlaw says:

      NYC – There is one person we can turn to.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bwZVnW6Gk7Y

      And she is 43 now so she can run in 2024.

    699. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      707. “lisab 705 you might be a lot of things but you can be very funny.”

      We should get lisab to run for office. Her sense of irony is a political weapon in and of itself.

    700. lisab says:

      We should get lisab to run for office. Her sense of irony is a political weapon in and of itself.
      ———————–

      breaking fox news

      pelosi: the speaker recognizes congresswoman lisa

      lisab: madame speaker, honorable members, ladies and gentlemen, … i would like to revisit a comment made a moment ago by my esteemed colleague congrsswoman AOC.

      ahem … AOC … i would just like to correct you on one point … the london underground is NOT a political movement … (uproar) … i looked it up … (uproar) she is stupid … (pointing at AOC)

      pelosi: ORDER (bang bang bang) ORDER (bang bang bang) serjeant at arms …

      lisab: you are out of order! you are out of order! this whole congress is out of order! (being dragged out)

      this isn’t over! …. brady is the goat!!!!! …

    701. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      710. Pelosi may call you out of order, but she needs to also declare that Biden is clearly disordered.

      At his news conference about the vaccine, Biden backtracked on his campaign promises about expediting the vaccination program in the next 100 days — instead he indicated the weekly distribution would be slightly increased, but would remain about the same as the existing Trump program — about 10 million doses. Nothing was said about the scandal of around 1/2 of the vaccines delivered sitting on shelves unused in states like California.

      However, Biden did say that he had authorized purchase of 100 million additional doses of each of the two vaccines, which would be delivered in “mid-summer”, and some would even be made available in “early summer”. Frankly, this also seems similar to the plan under the Trump administration.

      Unfortunately, Biden exhibited the same mental confusion that we had seen during the campaign; this is likely going to be a very weak and rudderless administration, with a figurehead president.

    702. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      711. Am surprised the New York Times ran a story which states in its headline that Biden’s vaccine plan to buy 200 million more vaccine doses by summer’s end: “It may not speed up vaccinations.”

      Governor Cuomo is quoted in the article as saying: “it’s not enough,” as the state continues to try to vaccinate nearly 20 million residents. “At this rate, we’re talking about months and months.”

      Add to this the news that very few Senate Republicans will support impeachment, and Biden’s brief honeymoon period may be coming to an end.

    703. jason says:

      Ten reasons Obama should be impeached.

      All of them seem more plausible than “inciting a riot”.

      https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2021/01/26/ten-reasons-a-post-presidency-impeachment-of-barack-obama-should-happen-n1409484

    704. Messy says:

      404. “Former President” is a government position. he gets a salary, staff, security, and travel.

    705. jason says:

      Former President” is a government position. he gets a salary, staff, security, and travel.”

      LOL

      No.

      Unless everyone who retires from public service who gets benefits like pensions is a “government position”.

      Former Presidents have certain benefits. They get a pension, not a salary.

    706. jason says:

      Yeah, Sheep, Kudlow is a great addition to FNB.

    707. Gordon Allen says:

      Biden 48-48 and -7 strong approval.One week in. He may make Carter look good.

    708. Phil says:

      “Former President” is a government position.

      I cant even begin to express just how utterly stupid that statement is.

    709. Phil says:

      Don’t worry, Gordon, Quinnipiac will be posting some bullsh*t poll showing Biden in the 60s. You know, the same outfit that had Biden up 16 in Florida three weeks before the election and winning Wisconsin by 10. CNN will have a beauty as well.

    710. jason says:

      I do give Messy moron credit, whenever you think she could not outdo herself on stupidity, she fools you.

    711. Gordon Allen says:

      Phil. Thanks. There I was getting nervous about Joe’s poll numbers. Whew. One less thing to worry about ?

    712. Bitterlaw says:

      I bet Messy thinks that people who receive Social Security are also government officials because they receive Federal funds. Maybe the House can impeach all Trump voters over 65 and the Senate can put them on trial. Right, Messy?

    713. Bitterlaw says:

      It’s only January but comes out strong for Most Idiotic Post of 2021.

    714. Bitterlaw says:

      With the possible exception of Robbie and Corey, we all agree Messy is a Moron. And Jason says there is “no common ground.”

      Novel update – Main character has pneumonia. Not sure how it is going to turn out. Back to work.

    715. Robbie says:

      Luke Broadwater Sun with rays
      @lukebroadwater
      Capitol police Union: 140 officers injured in Jan. 6 mob attack.

      Officers without helmets “sustained brain injuries. One officer has two cracked ribs and two smashed spinal discs. One officer is going to lose his eye and another was stabbed with a metal fence stake”

      – Strange. I was assured it was just a little pushing and shoving.

    716. Smack says:

      Haley/Rubio 2024

      America in Excellence.

    717. Chicon says:

      Bitter, pneumonia is listed as a Covid case, so you may want to cover that.

    718. Phil says:

      No, Robbie. That little pushing and shoving was American cities this summer. I know that to be the case because I heard it on CNN.

    719. Phil says:

      Yeah, bitter. Better call the CDC and have them add it to their numbers.

    720. Phil says:

      Yes, Nikki all the way.

      She’s fighting for us, baby!

    721. Robbie says:

      Dan McLaughlin
      @baseballcrank
      It pays to read the history. The impeachment power was based on British practice, which allowed impeaching former officers, as did Founding era states. The Hastings precedent, for example, was cited at the convention & the model of the “high crimes & misdemeanors” language.

      – I believe a former president can be tried as Dan McLaughlin notes. The original understanding of the Constitution permits it.
      Otherwise, suggesting a former president can’t be tried and convicted for impeachable offenses gives a corrupt office holder free reign to do all sorts of impeachable offenses in the waning days of an administration and suffer no consequences.

      Some will point to Nixon and note the impeachment process was dropped after he resigned. Yes, but note two things. First, Nixon RESIGNED over the impeachable offenses. Second, he was term limited. Nixon couldn’t run for president again and was never going to hold any office of distinction again.

      Trump, on the other hand, clearly wants to run for president again. He’ll never be elected president again, but he can easily be the nominee again in 2024 and probably in 2028 if he really wants it. All Trump needs is 30% of the party, which he still has, so his ego can continue to be fed with delusions of grandeur.

      It’s the fact Trump clearly wants to run again that makes his case unique. If Trump was content to retire and never run for anything again, I think we could just move on from this. But Trump is shameless in a way other politicians aren’t. He’ll just plow through this as he did Access Hollywood.

      Having said all of this, I don’t for a moment expect the Senate will convict.

    722. NYCmike says:

      Robbie and Smack at the same time……oh boy…….

    723. Bitterlaw says:

      Novel is set pre-COVID. No politics involved.

    724. Phil says:

      Yeah, that’s too bad. Schumer, Pelosi, AOC, Romney, and Romney very disappointed by this.

    725. NYCmike says:

      Illegal immigrants to be released without regard to any laws they broke, thousands of workers being layed off due to environmental pseudo-science, colleges/universities actively trying to hide the amounts of money they have received from the CCP…….and the “strong, stalwart, lifelong conservative Republican” called Robbie spends every waking moment making sure of this:

      “Having said all of this, I don’t for a moment expect the Senate will convict.”

    726. Bitterlaw says:

      I do have the next 2 novels planned – 1 with zombies and softball and the other a satire of Philadelphia politics. Possible third involves posters on a blog but nobody would believe that one.

    727. NYCmike says:

      Go fly a kite.

    728. lisab says:

      The impeachment power was based on British practice,
      ——————

      so aren’t bills of attainder

    729. Phil says:

      Lisa with the kill shot.

    730. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 12:43 pm
      Yes, Nikki all the way.

      She’s fighting for us, baby!

      – And here is the perfect distillation of the current “conservative” movement. It has nothing to do with how conservative a person is or whether or not that person has an actual track record of promoting and implementing conservative policies and goals.

      The only thing that matters right now is whether someone “fights”. How “fight” is defined is a constantly evolving concept, though. In the end, NYCmike was ahead of the curve. The base of the party has moved towards him. “Fighting” and losing is virtuous while winning and getting 90% of the goals accomplished is cuckery.

      If you’re a jerk who is willing to go on FoxNews and be an a$$hole, you’re a fighter who deserves support. See Ted Cruz and Josh Hawley.

      If you’re someone who has a track record of winning races and implementing conservative policies, you’re a RINO wimp.

    731. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 12:41 pm
      No, Robbie. That little pushing and shoving was American cities this summer. I know that to be the case because I heard it on CNN.

      – You’ve become an expert at whataboutism.

    732. Chicon says:

      Interaction with trolls is not rewarding. There is nothing actually discussed.

    733. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 12:54 pm
      Yeah, that’s too bad. Schumer, Pelosi, AOC, Romney, and Romney very disappointed by this.

      – Remember in 2012 when I correctly noted that Romney was not a conservative, not a good candidate, and not someone who could always be trusted and you repeatedly attacked me for saying so? I do. Now, you’ve lumped him in with Pelosi and AOC.

    734. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 12:55 pm
      Go fly a kite.

      – Go dissect Richard Mourdock’s Senate voting record.

    735. Phil says:

      He lumped himself in with them. He didn’t need my help.

    736. NYCmike says:

      ” “Fighting” and losing is virtuous while winning and getting 90% of the goals accomplished is cuckery.”

      -So says the guy who didn’t vote for the Republican candidate in 2016, and in 2018 in his state, about a person who has held his nose and voted for the Republican candidate in each election, even if his preferred primary candidate had lost.

    737. NYCmike says:

      “– Go dissect Richard Mourdock’s Senate voting record.”

      -I’m fine with Braun and Young, for now, Thank You very much.

    738. Robbie says:

      lisab says:
      January 27, 2021 at 12:56 pm
      The impeachment power was based on British practice,
      ——————

      so aren’t bills of attainder

      – Yes, bills of attainder are based on British practice. However, the Constitution explicitly prohibits them. Article I, Section 9, paragraph 3 provides that: “No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law will be passed.”

      The constitution says no such thing about impeachment of former officials. And since impeachment was based on the British practice and the practice of the states prior to ratification, it suggests that impeachment of former officials was permitted.

    739. Chicon says:

      Mike, are saying hypocrisy is among us?

    740. NYCmike says:

      Robbie is hurting so much from being laid off that he is exhausting all avenues to get back to work…….by looking up English common law practices in a quest to out-trump Trump…….

    741. NYCmike says:

      “Mike, are saying hypocrisy is among us?”

      -Something stinks….is that what you call it?

    742. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      January 27, 2021 at 1:05 pm
      Interaction with trolls is not rewarding. There is nothing actually discussed.

      – This is a good point. It’s why I stopped reminding everyone you believed Andrew Napolitano’s claim that Obama used the British spy agency to spy on Trump. It’s also why I stopped reminding everyone you believe the story that the DNC had Seth Rich murdered.

    743. Chicon says:

      Delusion is also among us….

    744. Phil says:

      Robbie’s solid in his support for Republicans unless they actually get on the ballot.

      Well, Robbie has won me over. I won’t actually be voting for Rs in the general election either….but no prob. The cultists like me will be replaced ten fold by all those suburbanite women just itching to vote Republican now that orange man is gone.

    745. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 1:08 pm
      He lumped himself in with them. He didn’t need my help.

      – It goes too far to say Romney is with Pelosi and AOC just as it went to far to say Romney was a conservative.

      Romney a mediocre politician who was never worth the trouble in 2012. Still, he voted for ACB.

    746. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 1:09 pm
      “– Go dissect Richard Mourdock’s Senate voting record.”

      -I’m fine with Braun and Young, for now, Thank You very much.

      – Were you fine with Donnelly voting for all of those liberal judges during the second Obama term?

    747. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 1:11 pm
      Robbie is hurting so much from being laid off that he is exhausting all avenues to get back to work…….by looking up English common law practices in a quest to out-trump Trump…….

      – It’s called Google, moron.

      Maybe if you did a modicum of research, you might not always end up having egg on your face.

    748. Phil says:

      Yeah, this impeachment is just relying on tradition. Like the tradition of impeaching with absolutely no House hearings or even any figment of effort of any kind of due process whatsoever. …uh, wait. let’s just establish a new and improved tradition. Yeah, that’s it.

      Andrew Johnson, Nixon, Clinton, even the first Trump impeachment had some sort of hearings in committee. Of course, this was different because Nancy had to hurry it up. The guy was going to be gone anyway within five days.

      Sham.

    749. NYCmike says:

      Heh…..no egg on my face, my flightless friend.

      As for Donnelly, sometimes life throws up disappointments in ones way……how you react and learn from them can be quite instructive.

      What did you learn from 2016?

    750. Chicon says:

      Blah, blah, blah….. Different day, same old story. Blah, blah, blah…..

    751. NYCmike says:

      Seeing as how Robbie is always so “worried” about Republicans getting re-elected, will he say anything in defense of Hawley and Cruz, and will he speak out against The Lincoln Project?

    752. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 1:20 pm
      Yeah, this impeachment is just relying on tradition. Like the tradition of impeaching with absolutely no House hearings or even any figment of effort of any kind of due process whatsoever. …uh, wait. let’s just establish a new and improved tradition. Yeah, that’s it.

      – A process argument in politics is always a losing argument. We all saw what happened with our own eyes. Not even Trump’s biggest defenders are arguing the case on the merits. Lindsay Graham and the rest simply say an ex-president can’t be convicted.

      I am quite certain, however, all those arguing against conviction for an ex-president would hold the opposite view if it was Obama.

    753. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      January 27, 2021 at 1:29 pm
      Blah, blah, blah….. Different day, same old story. Blah, blah, blah…..

      – I know. Every day you come here with the intent of defending Trump to the bitter end.

      You don’t care about the Republican Party or its ability to win races in the future.

      All you care about is Trump.

    754. Gordon Allen says:

      Robbie: no person with elementary education skills can mistake the Constitutional language for impeachment and conviction ” and removalfrom office”. Trump holds no office to be removed from.
      I don’t give a rats ass about English law except as explicitly made our own. Our governing law is the Constitution of the United States.Period.
      Note as a reminder; we threw the British out and made our own laws.

    755. NYCmike says:

      “I am quite certain, however, all those arguing against conviction for an ex-president would hold the opposite view if it was Obama.”

      -In this case, you would be the one asking for proof from the words spoken…..and if we couldn’t post them here, then the case would be just that…..as empty as the person making the accusation.

    756. Phil says:

      …and you’d be wrong.

      You don’t waive due process. You are one scary MF.

      BTW, my wife and I heard the speech so save your inciting a riot BS you got from the Washington Post.

      Trump cultist Turley told senators yesterday that any attempt to convict Trump on the charge of “inciting a riot’ wouldn’t fly in any court.

    757. NYCmike says:

      “You don’t care about the Republican Party or its ability to win races in the future.

      All you care about is Trump.”

      -If Trump wins the Republican primary in 2024, will Robbie “care” about the Republican Party, and its ability to win the general election, or will he act like the adolescent I believe him to be, and take his ball and go home……AGAIN?

    758. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 1:38 pm
      Seeing as how Robbie is always so “worried” about Republicans getting re-elected, will he say anything in defense of Hawley and Cruz, and will he speak out against The Lincoln Project?

      – Ah yes, the Lincoln Project canard. Phil’s tossed this out there multiple times over the last couple of years and I have repeatedly said Rick Wilson and the gang are frauds and con-artists just like Trump is.

      As for Cruz and Hawley, McConnell tried to warn them that indulging the lunatics in the House who thought they could overturn the election would have negative repercussions. Sadly, neither listened. Both placed their presidential ambitions above all else.

      I don’t think Cruz and Hawley broke any laws since they were following a process laid out in the Constitution, but they were playing with fire and got burned. Sucks for them, but if it keeps both of them away from the presidency, then good.

    759. Phil says:

      Well, Robbie is right about one thing. We no longer care about his version of the Republican Party.

      Now, lets see him win election without us.

      Pass the popcorn.

    760. Phil says:

      Burned by who, Robbie? Your friends at CNN and the NYT.

      LOL

    761. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 1:56 pm
      …and you’d be wrong.

      You don’t waive due process. You are one scary MF.

      – Due process applies to legal proceedings. This is a political process. If someone indicts Trump (very unlikely), he’ll get due process.

      What’s scary, though, is watching longtime conservatives abandon all previously held positions in order to defend and protect a conartist who left the Republican party completely out of power and in the midst of political civil war.

    762. Phil says:

      It was due process that was always followed in the past, Robbie!

      You are a moron.

    763. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 1:57 pm

      If Trump wins the Republican primary in 2024, will Robbie “care” about the Republican Party, and its ability to win the general election, or will he act like the adolescent I believe him to be, and take his ball and go home……AGAIN?

      – There’s ZERO chance I’ll vote for your boy Trump in 2024. ZERO. I’ll vote for the Republicans in the down-ballot races, but under no circumstances will I vote for Trump.

      If the party wants to commit suicide by nominating him once again, then that’s the party’s choice. But it would be suicide as much as you don’t want to believe it.

    764. NYCmike says:

      “As for Cruz and Hawley, McConnell tried to warn them that indulging the lunatics in the House who thought they could overturn the election would have negative repercussions.”

      “I don’t think Cruz and Hawley broke any laws since they were following a process laid out in the Constitution, but they were playing with fire and got burned.”

      -Got it.

      Robbie logic:

      They followed the law, and that’s bad.

      Immigration laws not followed, and that’s good.

    765. NYCmike says:

      “– There’s ZERO chance I’ll vote for your boy Trump in 2024.”

      -He isn’t my “boy”. He could be the candidate who wins the primary.

      Are you back to being against primaries?

      And please explain how that shows you “care” about the Republican Party and winning elections.

    766. jason says:

      but they were playing with fire and got burned.”

      Zzzz…….

      They were defending the rule of law and the Constitution.

      They only got “burned” by the MSM. Or maybe a few tiny tiny tent R morons like you.

    767. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 1:59 pm
      Well, Robbie is right about one thing. We no longer care about his version of the Republican Party.

      Now, lets see him win election without us.

      – In other words, you want the party to be a cult for Trump. If the party won’t defend Trump endlessly, you’re out all together.

      And make no mistake, you’re for Trump today, tomorrow, and forever. If 2024 is a race between Trump/Rubio, you’ll vote Trump. If 2024 is a race between Trump/Cruz, you’ll vote Trump. If 2024 is a race between Trump/DeSantis, you’ll vote Trump.

      And in 2028, you’ll do this all over again for Don Sr. or Don Jr. Trumpism is a cult.

    768. NYCmike says:

      “But it would be suicide as much as you don’t want to believe it.”

      -Things are looking up for Trump again!

    769. NYCmike says:

      I’m calling it now……if the Republican candidate in 2024 is Rubio, Cruz, or Desantis, Robbie will not vote for them.

    770. jason says:

      Robbie Goebbels wants Trump convicted because he is afraid he will run again even though he knows the whole thing is a sham and that Trump never incited any violence.

      “If Trump was content to retire and never run for anything again, I think we could just move on from this.

      Then he says:

      If the party wants to commit suicide by nominating him once again, then that’s the party’s choice.”

      LOL

    771. jason says:

      I’m calling it now……if the Republican candidate in 2024 is Rubio, Cruz, or Desantis, Robbie will not vote for them.”

      Of course not, not even “We all have to feel the pain or you are a racist Haley”.

    772. Cash Cow TM says:

      Bitter,

      I am sending prayers and hoping the main character of your novel pulls through in their bout with pneumonia.

      Maybe you could write how someone took them to the countryside for fresh air and they saw some cows and that speeded their recovery…

    773. jason says:

      And make no mistake, you’re for Trump today, tomorrow, and forever. If 2024 is a race between Trump/Rubio, you’ll vote Trump. If 2024 is a race between Trump/Cruz, you’ll vote Trump. If 2024 is a race between Trump/DeSantis, you’ll vote Trump.”

      Hmmmm..

      You if you think Trump is a better candidate than Rubio or Cruz you shouldn’t vote for him? Really?

      I won’t be voting for any of them, but I would prefer Trump over Rubio or Cruz.

      Trump was a good President, I would go with the known quantity.

    774. Bitterlaw says:

      Well, Robbie is certainly a true textualist. He is basing his argument on the legal system of a Constitutional Monarchy we broke from in 1776.

    775. jason says:

      Note I did not include DeSantis. If he takes on the mantle of the “new Trump” so to speak, and appeals to the same coalition as Trump, I could support him.

    776. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:01 pm
      Burned by who, Robbie? Your friends at CNN and the NYT.

      – They’ve been burned by their own voters since their approval ratings have both cratered since they pulled their craven, opportunistic stunts.

      What I find so humorous about what Cruz and Hawley did is they actually believe the Trump base cares that they did what they did. They don’t. Both were just a means to end to keep the dear leader in office.

      Cruz and Hawley could change their last names to Trump, tattoo Trump across their foreheads, and leave their wives in order to marry Ivanka or Tiffany and the Trump voters wouldn’t care.
      Why? Because the Trump voters want Trump and only Trump.

      And when Trump announces he’s running again in 2024, Cruz and Hawley will both be left holding the bag. They helped stoke a mob that attacked the Capitol and for nothing. The very voters they’re desperate to capture will turn around and mock them in whatever way Trump dictates.

      In 2016, Trump retweeted people who said Cruz’s wife was ugly. Trump accused Cruz’s dad of participating in the assassination of JFK. God only knows what Trump will say about Hawley, but it won’t be nice.

      So when they two realize their presidential ambitions have been crushed, they’ll realize McConnell was correct and their obvious opportunism failed. My guess is Cruz won’t run for Senate again in 2024, but Hawley will. Neither will be president, though, and that was their entire goal on January 6.

    777. lisab says:

      The constitution says no such thing about impeachment of former officials.
      ———————–

      that would be the legislature imposing a penalty on a private citizen without the normal protections of the judiciary would it not?

    778. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:04 pm
      It was due process that was always followed in the past, Robbie!

      You are a moron.

      – The only reason you’re arguing for due process is because you’re desperate to wipe away the fact Trump was impeached for inciting a riot that everyone watched in real-time.

      Of course, you thought it was just some pushing and shoving. Tell that to the police officers with brain damage or the one who will lose an eye. Tell that to the four people who died as a result of the riots.

    779. lisab says:

      I’m calling it now…… the Republican candidate in 2024 Robbie will not vote for.”
      —————————–

      ftfy

    780. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:10 pm
      Robbie logic:

      They followed the law, and that’s bad.

      Immigration laws not followed, and that’s good.

      – I don’t think Cruz and Hawley are guilty of anything other than pure political cravenness. That’s not a crime, but that photo of Hawley giving a raised fist to the rioters just before they storm the Capitol will linger with him for a long time. It won’t hurt his re-election chances in MO in 2024, but it will hurt his presidential ambitions.

    781. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:12 pm
      Are you back to being against primaries?

      – I’m where I have always been. In opposition to Trump.

    782. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:13 pm

      They were defending the rule of law and the Constitution.

      – Yeah. They were defending the Constitution by trying to overturn the results so the guy who lost could stay in power. Very Latin American and Turkish of them. Erdogan must have been impressed.

    783. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:15 pm
      I’m calling it now……if the Republican candidate in 2024 is Rubio, Cruz, or Desantis, Robbie will not vote for them.

      – As it stands today, I would definitely vote for Rubio and DeSantis. I think Rubio is a worm, but that’s a fight for another day.

      As for Cruz, I would probably vote for him, but I would have to think long and hard. I think he’s a fake and a phony. Like Trump, he couldn’t win a general election, but he wouldn’t go out of his way to offend voters he needed to win.

    784. lisab says:

      The only reason you’re arguing for due process is because you’re desperate to wipe away the fact Trump was impeached for inciting a riot that everyone watched in real-time.
      ———————————-

      ummmmmmm … no.

      noun: due process; noun: due process of law

      fair treatment through the normal judicial system, especially as a citizen’s entitlement.

    785. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:17 pm
      Robbie Goebbels wants Trump convicted because he is afraid he will run again even though he knows the whole thing is a sham and that Trump never incited any violence.

      – 1. I do want Trump convicted because I believe he’s guilty.

      2. I am afraid Trump will run again and win the nomination because brain dead idiots like you will support him.

    786. NYCmike says:

      “– I’m where I have always been. In opposition to Trump.”

      -“– I’m where I have always been. In opposition to (any candidate I don’t approve of, as I am such a strong Republican).”

    787. Phil says:

      Guilty of what exactly?

    788. NYCmike says:

      For a guy who hasn’t worked in a while, he really seems to give a lot more energy to bad-mouthing Trump than to actually looking for work.

    789. NYCmike says:

      “Guilty of what exactly?”

      -And show the words which back up your accusation.

    790. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:20 pm

      Hmmmm..

      You if you think Trump is a better candidate than Rubio or Cruz you shouldn’t vote for him? Really?

      – I don’t think Trump is a better candidate than any of them, but I expect the field in 2024 will be large just as it was in 2016. If that’s the case, Trump will only need the 30% or so he won with in early 2016 races to once again win in 2024.

      Just as importantly, FoxNews will be behind Trump. The primetime lineup never left him and now it looks like loony Maria Bartiromo will join the fray with a 7 PM show. I expect within a few months from now, Trump will once again start calling in to various FoxNews shows and be allowed to yap endlessly while the other candidates are trolling for staffers in the early states.

    791. NYCmike says:

      Phil,

      My comment was directed towards Robbie.

    792. NYCmike says:

      “Just as importantly, FoxNews will be behind Trump. The primetime lineup never left him and now it looks like loony Maria Bartiromo will join the fray with a 7 PM show. I expect within a few months from now, Trump will once again start calling in to various FoxNews shows and be allowed to yap endlessly while the other candidates are trolling for staffers in the early states.”

      -Let’s see:

      Start with 74 million votes in the general election, and then add in 4 years of Biden/Harris governance…….the only thing in the way of victory for Trump would be enforcement of voting laws in all 50 states.

    793. Chicon says:

      I’ve been curious for awhile about why Robbie posts here. I mean, what does he get put of posting here, especially the past five years? Other than his posts on Covid, very few, if any posters agree with him about much of anything. His positions are constantly and mercilessly shredded. He doesn’t ever try to reason with (discuss with) other posters; it is purely a stance where “you are all idiots”. He never takes into account a thing that is ever posted. His positions never change; not even a slight shift based off discussion here. He’s simply here to tell everyone they are wrong.

      So what’s in it for him? Is it like a self-flagellation ritual where this is his punishment for bad deeds? Or does he actually like that just about the whole joint thinks he’s crazy and dumb? Who likes to put themselves into a setting like that?

      Maybe Lisa can help….

    794. Robbie says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:21 pm
      Well, Robbie is certainly a true textualist. He is basing his argument on the legal system of a Constitutional Monarchy we broke from in 1776.

      – So did Scalia since he routinely used dictionaries from the time of the founding to try and understand what the words and phrases used in the Constitution and the Federalist Papers meant to those who wrote and ratified the document.

      If you feel it’s better to let Trump skate because he’s out of office, that’s a view. However, I think it’s wrong to say a post presidency trial is not allowed, especially when the person wants to run again.

      But just understand that Trump is going to see no trial or an acquittal as a victory and yet another sign that the party fears him and that he can walk all over them.

    795. Phil says:

      Again, “skate” from doing what?

    796. Phil says:

      More troops and razor wire to DC – and let’s keep them there forever. To preserve our democracy of course.

    797. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:45 pm
      Let’s see:

      Start with 74 million votes in the general election, and then add in 4 years of Biden/Harris governance…….the only thing in the way of victory for Trump would be enforcement of voting laws in all 50 states.

      – This is the same kind of magical thinking that led many Trump supporters to believe Mike Pence had the power to overturn the election results on January 6. You know who I’m talking about, right? They’re the ones who chanted “hang Mike Pence” as they stormed the Capitol.

      Of course by your logic, start with the 60 million people who voted for McCain in 2008 and then add in the four years of Obama/Biden. The only thing in the way of victory for McCain in 2012 would be enforcement of voting laws in all 50 states.

      Or better yet, start with the 61 million votes Romney got in 2012 and then add in another four years of Obama/Biden and the only thing standing in the way of victory for Romney in 2016 would be the enforcement of voting laws in all 50 states.

    798. NYCmike says:

      Robbie also characterizes Hawley’s and Cruz’s actions as “thought they could overturn the election”……..can you please link to their words to show this?

      As far as I recall, both of them wanted a 10-day period to look at the issues raised in regard to voting issues in certain states.

      Robbie, Why are you against full disclosure of all electoral procedures?

    799. NYCmike says:

      “Of course by your logic, start with the 60 million people who voted for McCain in 2008 and then add in the four years of Obama/Biden. The only thing in the way of victory for McCain in 2012 would be enforcement of voting laws in all 50 states.

      Or better yet, start with the 61 million votes Romney got in 2012 and then add in another four years of Obama/Biden and the only thing standing in the way of victory for Romney in 2016 would be the enforcement of voting laws in all 50 states.”

      -Are you saying that the same procedures were in effect in all of the years being spoken about?

    800. jason says:

      f you feel it’s better to let Trump skate”

      “Skate my ass”.

      He didn’t incite any riot, you know that, just TDS.

    801. NYCmike says:

      “-Are you saying that the same procedures were in effect in all of the years being spoken about?”

      -Robbie,

      Yes or NO?

      ALL of the states followed the exact same procedures/laws in 2020 as they did in 2016, 2012, and 2008?

    802. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:48 pm
      Again, “skate” from doing what?

      – This is so weak and you know it.

      If Obama had lost in 2012 and then spent the next two months telling is supporters lie after lie after lie that he really didn’t lose and it culminated in a Capitol storming rally where he told people you have to show strength, not weakness, you’d be outraged, and rightfully so, at Obama.

    803. NYCmike says:

      And Robbie still hasn’t posted any excerpt from Trump’s speech…….WOW!

      Can’t you do a Google search, kite-flyer?

    804. jason says:

      Trump will only need the 30% or so he won with in early 2016 races to once again win in 2024.”

      So let’s impeach him in an unconstitutional, illegal and trumped up charge process.

      Wonderful!

    805. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:47 pm
      I’ve been curious for awhile about why Robbie posts here. I mean, what does he get put of posting here, especially the past five years?

      – Simple. I’ve been part of this forum since 2004 and I’m not going let a charlatan like Trump and the people who fell for his act change what it means to be a Republican without a fight.

      Right up until election night 2016, the vast majority of people in this forum agreed with me. Sadly, many decided to change their views simply because Trump accidentally won and the media didn’t like him.

    806. NYCmike says:

      https://www.americanexperiment.org/2021/01/violent-crime-soared-in-minneapolis-in-2020/

      -Robbie, the guy who is so passionate about those unfortunately harmed on Jan 6th at the Capitol, will not say one word about this…….as it doesn’t have anything to do with Trump.

      What a pathetic individual!

    807. NYCmike says:

      “Right up until election night 2016, the vast majority of people in this forum agreed with me.”

      -LOL!

      7PM, Lord Arsehat had spoken……and then the night got real dark real fast for kite-flyer.

    808. NYCmike says:

      -Robbie,

      Yes or NO?

      ALL of the states followed the exact same procedures/laws in 2020 as they did in 2016, 2012, and 2008?

      You can’t answer this question?

      You can’t find Trump’s speech?

      Hawley’s and Cruz’s words?

      Any evidence for any of your accusations?

    809. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:57 pm
      Robbie also characterizes Hawley’s and Cruz’s actions as “thought they could overturn the election”……..can you please link to their words to show this?

      As far as I recall, both of them wanted a 10-day period to look at the issues raised in regard to voting issues in certain states.

      Robbie, Why are you against full disclosure of all electoral procedures?

      – And of course, Cruz’s call for a ten day period to look at the election results was disingenuous because he knew it would never happen. Yet, he got just what he wanted because you fell for it.

      You love the Constitution so much you wanted to abandon the procedures for certification because Trump didn’t win. And by the way, Trump had 62 different court cases making his claims of problems and he lost all 62.

    810. NYCmike says:

      Putin, Erdogan, and Xi all saying “Get this guy!”

    811. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 2:58 pm
      f you feel it’s better to let Trump skate”

      “Skate my ass”.

      He didn’t incite any riot, you know that, just TDS.

      – Of course, he did. But I also understand much of what you write here is performance art because you’ve decided being pro-Trump at all costs gives you credibility in this forum.

      If the same batch of loony 2014 Tea Party candidates ran in primaries today, you’d be right there with NYCmike supporting Chris McDaniel, Milton Wolf, and the rest.

    812. NYCmike says:

      “– Of course, he did.”

      -Then show his words.

    813. NYCmike says:

      “You love the Constitution so much you wanted to abandon the procedures for certification because Trump didn’t win.”

      -Where did I say to abandon anything?

      What procedures did Cruz and Hawley violate?

    814. jason says:

      Trump had 62 different court cases making his claims of problems and he lost all 62.”

      Nah, BS, he actually didn’t get to make his case. Almost all the cases did not advance due to standing and procedural issues. Evidence was not allowed to be presented, even though it is massive and persuasive.

    815. Phil says:

      he can’t quote the part where Trump specifically incites the riot, but he can quote the MSNBC jokers who say he did.

      That’s the extent of Robbie’s evidence.

      You can’t make this sh*t up.

    816. NYCmike says:

      https://www.hollywoodintoto.com/sasha-stone-interview-shapiro-oscars-trump/

      -Robbie is comfortable with this type of world.

      No evidence needed.

    817. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:00 pm
      And Robbie still hasn’t posted any excerpt from Trump’s speech…….WOW!

      – “Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong.”

      Not long after he said that, a mob stormed the Capitol, some wanted to take hostages and execute them, some chanted “hang Mike Pence”, and four people died.

    818. jason says:

      Trump will only need the 30% or so he won with in early 2016 races to once again win in 2024.”

      Hmmm….

      So anyone else with 30% could win too.

      So who else do you want to eliminate by artificial and illegal means so they don’t get 30%.

      This should be good. Let’s see how small the tiny tiny tent Robbie Goebbels can make the party.

    819. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:00 pm
      Trump will only need the 30% or so he won with in early 2016 races to once again win in 2024.”

      So let’s impeach him in an unconstitutional, illegal and trumped up charge process.

      – There’s nothing unconstitutional about impeachment and you know it. As Gerry Ford once said, impeachment is whatever a majority of the House says it is.

    820. Phil says:

      Well, we’re waiting Robbie. The quotes from the speech inciting a riot. Not just the drivel from the Washington Post saying he did. The actual words Trump said that did it. Give them to us. Jonathon Turley would like to know as well.

    821. Chicon says:

      817 – so, you come here and get beat up day after day, fighting for the Republican party you knew in days gone by. I don’t think that’s it – no rational person with that stated goal would choose the “you are all idiots and wrong” strategy you employ here. A 3rd grader knows that doesn’t work.

      What’s the real reason?

    822. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:02 pm
      https://www.americanexperiment.org/2021/01/violent-crime-soared-in-minneapolis-in-2020/

      -Robbie, the guy who is so passionate about those unfortunately harmed on Jan 6th at the Capitol, will not say one word about this…….as it doesn’t have anything to do with Trump.

      What a pathetic individual!

      – I know that you’re not always playing with a full deck of cards, but I was the guy in this forum who repeatedly called for Trump to use the Insurrection Act in late May and early June to put active duty troops on the street to quell the violence. And I still support that and believe it should be used now.

    823. jason says:

      ot long after he said that, a mob stormed the Capitol, some wanted to take hostages and execute them, some chanted “hang Mike Pence”, and four people died.”

      BS. 1.3 million Trump supporters, a few hundred invaded the Capitol, not all of them even Trump supporters.

      Trump never incited any violence, in fact said the march should be peaceful. There is now evidence the rioters weren’t even at the speech.

      “Four people died” is also BS. Only one person can be claimed to be a victim of the violence, a policemen who died later from a brain clot attributed to being struck in the head.

      The other policeman committed suicide, and two people died of medical events not related to any of the violence. In a universe of people that large, people will have strokes and heart attacks, blaming that on Trump is even more ridiculous.

    824. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:11 pm
      “You love the Constitution so much you wanted to abandon the procedures for certification because Trump didn’t win.”

      -Where did I say to abandon anything?

      What procedures did Cruz and Hawley violate?

      – Cruz called for a 10 day examination, something you supported, even though it’s not called for anywhere in the law. You wanted to see the results overturned because Trump convinced you he actually won.

      The fact is, time after time, you fall for the shameless stunts Ted Cruz pulls. You did it in 2013 when you actually believed Cruz could filibuster his way to the end of Obamacare.

    825. jason says:

      Of course, there was the woman who was shot for no reason, but since she was killed by the Capitol police I figured you weren’t blaming Trump for her death.

    826. Phil says:

      Shut up, Jason. Robbie got his fatality information from the Washington Post. They were all murdered by rioters.

    827. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #834- Robbie
      What’s the skinny in Kentucky regarding Mitch McConnell?

    828. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:11 pm
      Nah, BS, he actually didn’t get to make his case. Almost all the cases did not advance due to standing and procedural issues. Evidence was not allowed to be presented, even though it is massive and persuasive.

      – You know Trump didn’t make the case in court that he, Rudy, and the Kraken made in public? because the professional lawyers he hired knew his claims of fraud were crap and they didn’t want to get reprimanded by a judge for pushing conspiracies.

    829. jason says:

      You wanted to see the results overturned because Trump convinced you he actually won.”

      Personally, I was convinced by the evidence.

    830. Phil says:

      Cruz and Hawley didn’t violate a damned thing.

      Good God, man. Put the NYT down for five minutes.

    831. jason says:

      China rolls out anal swab coronavirus tests, saying it’s more accurate than throat method”

      A-holes will always be at the forefront of technology!

    832. jason says:

      – You know Trump didn’t make the case in court that he, Rudy, and the Kraken made in public? because the professional lawyers he hired knew his claims of fraud were crap and they didn’t want to get reprimanded by a judge for pushing conspiracies.”

      Rachel Madcow could have written this.

      Actually, probably did.

    833. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:13 pm
      Trump will only need the 30% or so he won with in early 2016 races to once again win in 2024.”

      Hmmm….

      So anyone else with 30% could win too.

      So who else do you want to eliminate by artificial and illegal means so they don’t get 30%.

      – As I wrote and you so clearly ignored, I believe the 2024 field is going to be large again and the 60% to 70% who may not want Trump again, would be spread out among as many as ten other candidates.

      If you’ve got ten people fighting for 70% and one guy with at least 30%, it’s recipe for the kind of early wins Trump had in 2016. Throw in the backing of FoxNews primetime and it will be hard to stop Trump even though he would be a minority winner early in the race as he was in 2016.

    834. Phil says:

      Trump isn’t running again. Quit feeding your paranoia.

    835. jason says:

      There’s nothing unconstitutional about impeachment and you know it. ”

      I will take Turley’s word for it, not yours, since he is actually a real live expert in constitutional law.

      “On its face, the planned impeachment trial is at odds with the language of the Constitution, which expressly states that removal of a president is the primary purpose of such a trial,” he continued.

      “At the time, Trump will be neither a president nor in office. He will be a citizen and would be best served legally to forgo the trial entirely as extraconstitutional and invalid.”

    836. Bitterlaw says:

      I disagree with almost everything Robbie posts but respect him for kicking in the door and fighting. I hate echo chambers.

      I used to be beloved here. 2 term governor surrounded by A-holes. Now? I am compared to Robbie despite the glaring differences. I am surprised I have not retroactively been impeached as HHR Governor.

    837. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:16 pm
      817 – so, you come here and get beat up day after day, fighting for the Republican party you knew in days gone by.

      – First of all, I don’t think I’m getting beat up. I’m quite certain my view in a few years, whether people in this forum want to admit it, will be the correct view. That is that Trump and Trumpism are extremely bad for the Republican Party. That’s why we no longer hold any power in DC. Trump made the majority of the public hate him.

      Also, I don’t think the kind of Republican Party I’m arguing for, the one that won huge majorities in 2014, is dead and gone. You may want the party dead and gone so it can serve as the Trump’s personal play thing, but I think with time more and more will move away from the mad king. It may not be this year or even in 2024, but repeated butt kickings due to Trump and Trumpism will cause the party to reassess just as three massive losses in a row got the Democrats to change in 1992.

      I’m just sad we have to go through this because the outlook for the party was so bright after election night 2014.

    838. jason says:

      As I wrote and you so clearly ignored, I believe the 2024 field is going to be large again and the 60% to 70% who may not want Trump again, would be spread out among as many as ten other candidates.”

      Yeah, and my point is maybe someone else could have 30% instead of Trump.

      Who else that might get to 30% do you want to eliminate by illegal and artificial means?

      I just want to see how tiny your tiny tiny R party can get.

    839. jason says:

      – First of all, I don’t think I’m getting beat up. ”

      That kind of denial is beyond psychiatric help.

      Robbie Goebbels really thinks he is not a joke here and really thinks he somehow represents the R party.

      Sad, actually, to be that delusional.

    840. jason says:

      I am surprised I have not retroactively been impeached as HHR Governor.”

      You are safe.

      They would have to impeach me too, and we know that with my popularity it could never happen.

    841. NYCmike says:

      “I’m quite certain my view in a few years, whether people in this forum want to admit it, will be the correct view. That is that Trump and Trumpism are extremely bad for the Republican Party. That’s why we no longer hold any power in DC. Trump made the majority of the public hate him.”

      -Which policy of Trump’s doesn’t have popular support, and is also the law of the land already?

      On Immigration alone, your statement falls flat. You have said it’s not important, meanwhile the majority of the country believes a country should enforce its borders.

    842. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:19 pm
      Of course, there was the woman who was shot for no reason,

      – Shot for no reason? You can’t be serious. She was part of a mob that was trying to get past locked doors that led to the Speaker’s office. They were told they couldn’t pass and guards had guns drawn. Still, she tried to climb through a broken window in the door and get past the guards.

      The poor woman was a QAnon adherent. She thought January 6 was the “storm” promised by Q. She thought she was helping end a massive satanic child pedophile ring that included Nancy Pelosi. Sadly, she had become unhinged from reality by the QAnon lie.

    843. jason says:

      That is that Trump and Trumpism are extremely bad for the Republican Party.”

      Maybe the 5% of the R party you represent.

      For the 95% of Rs that support him, he has been great for that R party (which is the real R party, not the Jeb R party you think is a majority).

    844. NYCmike says:

      “– Shot for no reason? You can’t be serious. She was part of a mob that was trying to get past locked doors that led to the Speaker’s office. They were told they couldn’t pass and guards had guns drawn. Still, she tried to climb through a broken window in the door and get past the guards.”

      Robbie,

      Considering that any investigation has been, ODDLY, not spoken about at all, how are you getting this information?

      If the shootings had been during the summer, the press would have wall-to-wall coverage about the shooter, as they should.

      Where is that investigation now?

    845. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:20 pm
      Shut up, Jason. Robbie got his fatality information from the Washington Post. They were all murdered by rioters.

      – One office died because he was bashed in the head with a fire extinguisher. Of course, you said it nothing but some pushing and shoving.
      The other three died from heart attacks and other things at the Capitol.

      Also, let’s not forget the more than 1040 officer who were injured by the mob. Some have brain injuries, some had broken bones, one will lose an eye.

      But just some pushing and shoving, right?

    846. Robbie says:

      Sheeple,Jr. says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:20 pm
      #834- Robbie
      What’s the skinny in Kentucky regarding Mitch McConnell?

      – That he’s as powerful ever.

    847. NYCmike says:

      “The poor woman was a QAnon adherent. She thought January 6 was the “storm” promised by Q. She thought she was helping end a massive satanic child pedophile ring that included Nancy Pelosi. Sadly, she had become unhinged from reality by the QAnon lie.”

      -Ok, I need to stop arguing with this loon.

      I’ll try to stay disciplined and not engage.

      This flightless bird is a Dodo.

    848. jason says:

      he poor woman was a QAnon adherent.”

      Ahh, even if true, that is an excuse to shoot her in cold blood for no reason.

      “Trying to climb through broken window”… wow.

    849. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:20 pm
      You wanted to see the results overturned because Trump convinced you he actually won.”

      Personally, I was convinced by the evidence.

      – Then you were convinced he lost because he presented no evidence in court to suggest he won. In fact, his lawyers stipulated they have no evidence of widespread fraud.

    850. jason says:

      The other three died from heart attacks and other things at the Capitol.”

      Trump must have induced the heart attacks.

    851. jason says:

      In fact, his lawyers stipulated they have no evidence of widespread fraud.”

      Zzzzzz….

      Goebbels would be proud of that lie.

    852. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:30 pm

      Yeah, and my point is maybe someone else could have 30% instead of Trump.

      Who else that might get to 30% do you want to eliminate by illegal and artificial means?

      – Who else might get to 30%? Hard to say. Right now, the only person with name ID as high as Trump is Pence. I think it’s unlikely he’ll be the nominee because some portion of the Trump base believes he’s cuck for not overturning the election.

      I don’t think someone other than Trump could get to 30% with him in the race until several primaries have been held and the field narrows. By then, Trump would be positioned just as he was in 2016. In a position where he couldn’t be stopped.

    853. jason says:

      The woman was killed on video. Unarmed and not threat to anyone.

      But I guess she deserved it because she was an “adherent to QAnon”.

      Robbie Goebbels slanders her and omits she probably did 1000 more for her country than he ever will.

      “Babbitt served in the U.S. Air Force as a senior airman while on active duty from 2004 to 2008, the Air Force said in a statement. She also served in the Air Force Reserve between 2008 and 2010, and in the Air National Guard from 2010 until 2016, the statement said.

      She served in the military with her ex-husband, Timothy McEntee, and did at least one tour in Iraq”

    854. Phil says:

      Trump isn’t the reason the Republican Party is finished.

      It’s finished because

      the media is an arm of the DNC and frames everything and even refuses to even report on anything hurting the Democrats chances – Hunter Biden exhibit A It won’t end when Trump isn’t in the picture.

      Leftists control the education process K-12 as well as universities – 24/7 indoctrination

      Leftists control corporations and they crank out woke BS nonstop.

      Integrity of voting process gone. I could give examples but they are obvious. It wasn’t Republicans that changed he system this cycle.

      Complete censorship and cancellation of conservative thought on social media platforms – something you hear crickets from Robbie on because he’s too worried about important things like a trial of Trump. Unlike Trump’s trial this is serious.

      $$ The left has hundreds of millions from leftist billionaires.

      The importation of millions of new voters once illegals are granted citizenship.

      Sorry, Robbie. It ain’t Trump. Your new Republican Party has far bigger problems than an ex president on the sidelines….but you’ll never acknowledge any of the realities I just laid before you.

    855. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:28 pm
      Trump isn’t running again. Quit feeding your paranoia.

      – I believe he will because I believe his ego will require it and he’ll conclude running for president again will make it harder for any investigations into him or his finances to take place without looking like political retribution.

    856. jason says:

      I don’t think someone other than Trump could get to 30%”

      Ahh, so we should just get rid of him then.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    857. Robbie says:

      NYCmike says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:36 pm
      “– Shot for no reason? You can’t be serious. She was part of a mob that was trying to get past locked doors that led to the Speaker’s office. They were told they couldn’t pass and guards had guns drawn. Still, she tried to climb through a broken window in the door and get past the guards.”

      Robbie,

      Considering that any investigation has been, ODDLY, not spoken about at all, how are you getting this information?

      – Because I read the multiple stories about the poor woman and I saw the video where she tired to break through a broken door window that was being guarded by an officer with his gun drawn.

      Honestly, do your homework every now and then.

    858. jason says:

      Trump has as much right to run as anyone else.

      If you have a better candidate that can beat him, work for that candidate and give it your best shot.

      But trying to eliminate him by a bogus charges and a bogus impeachment process that is completely unconstitutional, no.

    859. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:37 pm
      he poor woman was a QAnon adherent.”

      Ahh, even if true, that is an excuse to shoot her in cold blood for no reason.

      “Trying to climb through broken window”… wow.

      – If someone is guarding a set of doors during a riot with guns drawn and tells people if they try and pass they will be shoot, what do you think is going to happen?

      She was trying to get to Pelosi’s office and arrest her because the poor woman believed the lunatic QAnon conspiracy theories.

      The officer who shot her had every right. I’m sorry it happened.

    860. Phil says:

      Uh, that is your justification for the woman being shot? Do your homework? LOL

      God God.

      I haven’t even heard Don Lemon go that far.

    861. jason says:

      here she tired to break through a broken door window that was being guarded by an officer with his gun drawn”

      Hello? Everyone there had broken into the Capitol.

      She was unarmed and no threat. Why should she be executed exactly?

      I bet you would be the first person here whining if the Antifa gangsters had been killed for “trying to crawl through a broken window” at the federal buildings they attacked.

      But because supposedly she is QAnon, she could be murdered for no reason.

    862. jason says:

      and tells people if they try and pass they will be shoot, ”

      Hmmm, I watched the video, I didn’t hear any such warning.

      That is most probably a lie.

    863. Gordon Allen says:

      Dow down nearly 900 points this week. Bozos finally figuring there’s not a scintilla of growth inherent in Biden policies. But incipient inflation. Think Carter 1977-81. The difference: Carter was smarter.

    864. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:44 pm
      The woman was killed on video. Unarmed and not threat to anyone.

      – In the midst of a riot, how did the officer know she was unarmed? How did the officer know she wasn’t a threat to anyone? Others involved the riots carried weapons and zipties into the Capitol. She was told not to pass. The guard was protecting the office of the Speaker, the person second line to the presidency.

      If a protestor had gotten over the White House fence in June and tried to get into the building through a broken window, do you think Secret Service wouldn’t have shot that person? Honestly, let’s stop with the excuse making. The poor woman’s dead because she lost her mind in the depraved QAnon conspiracy.

    865. Phil says:

      The officer who shot her had every right?

      Because she was going to go into Nancy Pelosi’s office? Oh, the horror! Gun her down!

      Robbie, you are insane. Really pathetic.

      I’ll let the rest of you deal with this guy. He’s no longer worth my time.

    866. jason says:

      If you have a better candidate that can beat him, work for that candidate and give it your best shot.”

      We have been through this before. I remember when Robbie Goebbels said some R would certainly primary him because his approval was so low.

      I said ok, who can beat him. Robbie Goebbels had no answer, so he relied on his heroes like Adam Schiff and Michael Avennatti to do the dirty work.

      It sounds like once again, he doesn’t see anyone that could beat Trump for the nomination so he wants him impeached by bogus means to achieve that.

    867. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:45 pm
      I don’t think someone other than Trump could get to 30%”

      Ahh, so we should just get rid of him then.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

      – With Trump in the race at 30% and as many as ten others in the race as well, it’s hard to imagine their would be any sort of early consolidation that could effectively make the race one-on-one by Iowa. It would likely be Trump at 30% or so and four or five around 10% to 15% in the early states. That’s exactly what happened in 2016.

    868. jason says:

      Because she was going to go into Nancy Pelosi’s office? ”

      That is a lie too, this was not at Pelosi’s office.

    869. jason says:

      So Trump should be impeached so he doesn’t win the nomination in 2024.

      That is democracy at work, all right.

    870. jason says:

      With Trump in the race at 30% and as many as ten others in the race as well, it’s hard to imagine their would be any sort of early consolidation that could effectively make the race one-on-one by Iowa. It would likely be Trump at 30% or so and four or five around 10% to 15% in the early states. That’s exactly what happened in 2016.”

      And he won the GE.

      Sounds like a winning strategy to me if history is your example.

    871. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:54 pm
      The officer who shot her had every right?

      Because she was going to go into Nancy Pelosi’s office? Oh, the horror! Gun her down!

      – Did that look like a bunch of tourists who just wanted to take some pictures? Did that poor woman, who was deranged by QAnon, look like she was just trying to get a better view? Of course, not. She was there to fulfill the “storm” Q said would happen.

      Had someone tried this in June at the White House, the person would have been shot and rightfully so.

    872. Robbie says:

      Phil says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:54 pm
      The officer who shot her had every right?

      Because she was going to go into Nancy Pelosi’s office? Oh, the horror! Gun her down!

      Robbie, you are insane. Really pathetic.

      I’ll let the rest of you deal with this guy. He’s no longer worth my time.

      – So your view is the mob should have been allowed to roam free throughout the Capitol’s restricted areas? You can’t actually believe this, but Trumpism leads people to some very dark places.

      And you won’t quit responding to me.

    873. Robbie says:

      jason says:
      January 27, 2021 at 3:57 pm
      So Trump should be impeached so he doesn’t win the nomination in 2024.

      – I think Trump should be convicted because I believe he’s guilty. The fact he would be barred from holding office again would just be an added benefit.

      But if you want to own the libs by nominating a twice impeached and very unpopular one term president who would be a lame duck the moment he’s inaugurated, then that’s your choice.

      Trump can absolutely be nominated again, but he’ll never win a general election. If the party wants to make a point, then that’s what the party will do.

      And after he loses again, then you’ll really get the socialism you fear.

    874. Chicon says:

      885 – finally! I agree with Robbie’s taunt. Phil will not quit responding to Robbie’s Repetitive Rantings.

      That’s why I have always said Robbie is a high end troll talent.

      We’ll never get the real reason he is here; it would require insight.

    875. Robbie says:

      Chicon says:
      January 27, 2021 at 4:12 pm

      We’ll never get the real reason he is here; it would require insight.

      – Like I said, I’ve been part of the forum since 2004 and I want to continue to argue for the views I strongly hold. And for the most part, I enjoy the back and forth.

      While I think some in this forum have a screw loose, I think the turn towards Trump in this forum in 2017 was borne out by the polling so in that sense it’s a nice barometer for the party’s thinking.

    876. Chicon says:

      888 – so you’re here to change hearts and minds; and your strategy is to tell everyone they are idiots and members of a cult? Doesn’t seem like an effective strategy to me.

      This is why I don’t believe you are here to change hearts and minds; nobody would select the methods you employ if that is the goal. BTW, I’m not calling you a liar on this; it’s very possible you don’t know why you keep coming here.

    877. Bitterlaw says:

      Walt told me he knew Crispus Attucks. He worked with Crispus Attucks. He said, the woman shot and killed in the Captol was no Crispus Attucks.

      That was for Phil since he was impressed with my Crispus Attucks knowledge.

    878. Chicon says:

      Also, Robbie, I’m not suggesting that you shouldn’t post here, just curious why you do.

    879. Meldrim says:

      #749, Robbie, you ignorant slut, Article II, section 4 of the U.S. Constitution provides that the persons subject to impeachment are “[t]he President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States.” Every single time that the Constitution talks about “the President,” it means the incumbent president, not a former president. Donald Trump can’t appoint an ambassador, or veto a bill, or do anything that the Constitution empowers “the President” to do.

      In fact, there is another impeachment clause in the Constitution that mentions “the President”–Article I, section 3–and that the phrase refers exclusively to *the incumbent president* is irrefutable, since even those knucklehead Democrat senators who want to run a sham impeachment trial of a former president accept that it refers only to the incumbent president. The section reads as follows: “The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.”

      Because “the President” as used in Article I, section 3 does not refer to a former president such as Trump, the Chief Justice will not be presiding over his “trial.” Yet you claim that when “the President” is used in Article II, section 4 that the phrase *does* refer to a former president? As Chief Justice Roberts likes to say, “the Constitution itself is the best dictionary.” If Trump is not “the President” pursuant to one impeachment clause, he can’t be “the President” under another one.

      Robbie, the argument that you are espousing (well, “parroting” is a more apt word) is not as stupid as Messy’s (“former president is a government position”), but it still is illogical, even if some of my fellow Federalist Society members endorse it. What is going on in Washington is political posturing, pure and simple. Were 67 senators to vote to convict Trump, and were a state to ban Trump from the ballot for president based on such “conviction,” Trump would be able to get the conviction thrown out in five minutes. Alas, the Democrats will be lucky to get 55 votes for conviction, forget about 67, and no one will have standing to go to court and obtain a ruling on whether the Senate had jurisdiction.

    880. NYCmike says:

      https://pjmedia.com/culture/bryan-preston/2021/01/27/chick-fil-a-saves-the-day-fixes-citys-vaccination-snafu-n1412783

      -Once again, Chick-Fil-A gets it done!

      No power from D.C. needed!

      Robbie hardest hit! Go fly a kite.

    881. Bitterlaw says:

      Chi – Robbie posts for the reason we do. We’re Political junkies and there is no way our friends and families want to discuss these topics every day and night. HHR is small enough to follow discussions.

    882. NYCmike says:

      Bitterlaw,

      A week or so ago you used the ACU ratings to back up a point you tried to make about Republicans.

      If Rand Paul, whose ACU Republican rating is quite high, was to win enough delegates and become the Republican nominee, would you vote for him in the general election in 2024?

    883. lisab says:

      Where did I say to abandon anything?
      ——————–

      Due Process?

    884. lisab says:

      finally! I agree with Robbie’s taunt. Phil will not quit responding to Robbie’s Repetitive Rantings.
      ————–

      but robbie is fun to mock

      you don’t need to make a strawman, because robbie is here

    885. NYCmike says:

      #896 – abandoning Due Process is Robbie’s, and the Democrats, grand idea.

    886. NYCmike says:

      lisab,

      If Trump forms a 3rd Party, and runs on that line, will you vote for him to increase their numbers?

    887. NYCmike says:

      CM

    888. Meldrim says:

      #890, Bitter, I was surprised that Phil was impressed that you knew that Crispus Attucks had been killed at the Boston Massacre. The one thing that they teach in high school about the Boston Massacre is that a black man named Crispus Attucks was among the casualties, thus proving that blacks were a key component of the American Revolution. Far fewer Americans know that John Adams was the defense attorney for the British soldiers.

    889. NYCmike says:

      ” Far fewer Americans know that John Adams was the defense attorney for the British soldiers.”

      -He must have been a King George sycophant cult member!

    890. Chicon says:

      892 – and Robbie says he does not receive beatings here……

    891. Meldrim says:

      #902, heh. Yeah, nowadays they’d be calling him a PINO (Patriot in Name Only).

    892. Bitterlaw says:

      RIP, Cloris Leachman

      NYC – If I could support Trump in 2016 after he spent decades writing checks to Democrats, said Bill Clinton was the greatest President of his lifetime, said Hillary Clinton would be great President and supported her in 2008 over Obama in the primaries, I can vote for Rand Paul if he gets the Republican nomination in 2024. I will vote against him in a Republican primary because I think he is too close to his whacky dad on some issues. Trump was a true RINO because he needed a party banner to run under and Hillary already made clear she would grab the Democrat banner before he came down the escalator

    893. NYCmike says:

      Just thought I’d ask.

      Thanks for the response.

      Frau Blucher!

      Neighhhhhhhhhh!

    894. lisab says:

      If Trump forms a 3rd Party, and runs on that line, will you vote for him to increase their numbers?
      ——————–

      in theory …

      i would want to help a strong third party.

      if it was something very extreme i would not … but i don’t think his party would be more extreme than the dems

    895. lisab says:

      abandoning Due Process is Robbie’s, and the Democrats, grand idea.
      —————————

      this is a nightmare position

      they think it, (government suppression of rights), won’t happen to them

    896. lisab says:

      abandoning Due Process is Robbie’s, and the Democrats, grand idea.
      —————————
      nyc,

      btw, since you asked the other day about it,

      one of the reasons i am against big government is that in almost every case big government reduces my freedom of choice, if only because it tax my tax money i could have spent on shoes and instead spent on a high speed train to nowhere etc.

      in a few cases, bigger govt increases my freedom, say by building roads, so i can drive more places

      but usually it restricts freedoms

    897. jason says:

      Robbie Goebbels and Pat Toomey hardest hit.

      “Former President Trump’s standing among Republicans has slightly improved since leaving office, with about half of GOP respondents indicating in a new poll they’d like to see him play a significant role in the party’s future.

      Fifty percent of Republican voters polled in the new Morning Consult survey said Trump should play a “major role” in the party, an increase of 9 percentage points since his supporters rioted at the U.S. Capitol after he addressed them and repeated unproven claims of election fraud.

      Women drove the uptick with a 15-point surge among likely GOP female voters who say they wish to see Trump as a key player in the party’s future.

      Wednesday’s survey also found 81 percent of Republicans have positive views of Trump, with more than half saying they hold strong feelings on the issue. On the night before his second impeachment by the U.S. House over his role in the rioting, 76 percent of Republicans said they viewed him favorably.

      Three in 10 Republicans also said in the new poll that they would prefer to join a “Patriot Party” if it were led by Trump, with 25 percent saying they would be undecided in such a scenario.”

    898. jason says:

      So Trump’s standing among Rs is actually improving.

    899. jason says:

      But Robbie Goebbels thinks he represents the party.

      The delusion is astounding.

    900. lisab says:

      it is all the astounded republicans waking up

    901. jason says:

      Let them eat cake Marie Antoinette Kerry…

      “John Kerry is asked what his message would be to oil and gas workers who “see an end to their livelihoods”:

      “What President Biden wants to do is make sure that those folks have better choices… That they can be the people to go to work to make the solar panels.”

    902. jason says:

      Sounds like Dukakis telling Iowa farmers to plant Belgian endive.

    903. Phil says:

      Kerry and his crew will, of course, be the ones to define what is meant by better choices.

      …just like our new leftist overlords get to define what constitutes “domestic terrorism”

      What could go wrong?

    904. NYCmike says:

      “…just like our new leftist overlords get to define what constitutes “domestic terrorism””

      -Didn’t you hear Trump’s speech!?!?

    905. Cash Cow TM says:

      IMO, the woman who shot the protestor/rioter was justified.

      I still wonder why the officer did not fire a warning shot.

      Also wonder why there were armed police of the side of the doors/windows just feet away from the woman who got shot and from the mob trying to break through–but it appears they were doing little to stop the rioters.

    906. Phil says:

      Warning shot? The shot through the woman’s neck WAS the warning shot.

      It’s ok, Cow. You can’t have unarmed protesters going into Nancy’s office. I mean, the woman deserved to die….unless of course she were black. At that point American cities would have to be burnt to the ground. You know. In the name of social justice.

      Some of you who should know better have lost your ever loving minds.

    907. Bitterlaw says:

      Cash Cow – I agree with you to some extent. Everyone saying the woman was unarmed have the benefit of hindsight. Obviously, nobody was checked entering the Capitol so she might have had a weapon that was hidden. The shooting officer made a split second decision that left one woman dead and will haunt the officer for the rest of their life.

      One caveat – if the woman who was shot had been within 10 feet of any Representative or Senator – drop her. No different than if it was Trump or Pence. I did not see any evidence of tasers being used so I do not know if that if that was an option.

    908. Bitterlaw says:

      You can’t have unarmed protesters going into Nancy’s office.

      And how do you know they are unarmed if you are the officer in that situation?

      I mean, the woman deserved to die….unless of course she were black.

      No. If a black person got within 10 feet of the people I named, you can shoot them, too.

    909. Bitterlaw says:

      You can’t have unarmed protesters going into Nancy’s office.

      If the protestors had all gone through metal detectors, they could eat her lunch for all I care. Steal anything? Criminal trespass and theft. Steal anything like a laptop with government documents/secrets? Federal charges. This is not new. I posted it January 6th.

    910. Phil says:

      Ok then. Drop her.

      I get it.

      You’ll fit right in in DC.

    911. jason says:

      There was no reason to shoot the woman. None. In fact nobody else was shot because there was no reason to shoot anybody. The video is clear that there was no threat to anybody. The woman’s hands were visible so there was no “hindsight” that she was unarmed. She was unarmed. “Might have had a hidden weapon” is BS, if it was so hidden it wasn’t a threat. If it was an Antifa demonstrator at another federal building they would charge the officer with murder.

    912. jason says:

      IMO, the woman who shot the protestor/rioter was justified.”

      You are one sick Cow.

    913. jason says:

      This is CNN, fact checking Biden.

      “I dug into some of the claims Biden made in his Friday speech about his pandemic relief plan. He was quite factual”

    914. Phil says:

      Well, there you go. If CNN dug into it then that’s that.

    915. Phil says:

      Quick, more troops and razor wire for Nancy’s impeachment trial photo op.

    916. Bitterlaw says:

      Ok then. Drop her.

      I get it.

      You’ll fit right in in DC.

      Let’s say she charged a cop in Minneapolis and the cop yelled stop. What is ok, Phil?

    917. Phil says:

      She didn’t charge a cop, bitter.

      Minor detail.

    918. jason says:

      “Nancy’s office”

      Fake news.

    919. Bitterlaw says:

      If it was an Antifa demonstrator at another federal building … jason and Phil would say shoot. And there is a high probability I would agree.

    920. jason says:

      Wow, I can’t believe Bitter is trying to justify this.

      I am going to go do something else I am really disgusted that anyone can think this was in any way justified.

    921. Bitterlaw says:

      She didn’t charge a cop, bitter.

      Minor detail.

      Well, the cop who shot apparently felt there was a reason to shoot. Do you think they should be on trial if the evidence leads there? I do. Can we agree on that?

    922. Bitterlaw says:

      I have been consistent for years. Several years ago, somebody climber over the White House fence. I said they should have been shot before they hit the ground. Does anybody disagree? Why or why not?

    923. jason says:

      He should be tried but he won’t because he killed a Trump supporter, that’s ok.

      Why didn’t they shoot all the hundreds of other protesters already in the building. Why weren’t they a bigger threat than she was?

      “Well, the cop who shot apparently felt there was a reason to shoot.”

      LOL

      Is that the new standard? Dang, the woke world is going to be pissed.

    924. Phil says:

      You used a false equivalency. The cop wasn’t attacked in this case. Period.

      The woman absolutely didn’t deserve to die. End of story. I expected that point of view from lunatic Robbie. Not from you.

    925. Bitterlaw says:

      Wow, I can’t believe Bitter is trying to justify this.

      I have been very consistent in supporting police shootings with few exceptions for decades. I have rejected the claims that Trump incited a riot. I have rejected the idea that the protestors on the steps did anything wrong and were certainly not a mob.

    926. jason says:

      Several years ago, somebody climber over the White House fence. I said they should have been shot before they hit the ground. Does anybody disagree? Why or why not?”

      Wow, that is the king of the fake equivalencies.

      A direct threat to the President vs. the entry into the Capitol of an unarmed woman, #243 to have entered.

      You have outdone yourself this time with that BS.

    927. jason says:

      Bitter, your position is truly disgusting.

      I am actually ashamed for you.

      You need to reconsider this, really.

    928. jason says:

      This woman represented ZERO threat to the cop. There were already hundreds in the building. Arrest her. Handcuff her.

      Shoot her in cold blood for no reason? No.

    929. Phil says:

      You’d have to twist ones self into a pretzel to justify that shooting.

    930. Bitterlaw says:

      You used a false equivalency. The cop wasn’t attacked in this case. Period.

      You speak for the cop now? They were very close together in the video. How many seconds should the cop have to wait to make sure everything is ok? I could be completely wrong. But admit that we have the benefit of knowledge the officer did not have.

    931. jason says:

      “I expected that point of view from lunatic Robbie. Not from you.”

      Did Bitter say she deserved to die because she was “QAnon follower” yet?

      That is all that is left, the rest of the narrative is the same.

    932. NYCmike says:

      “The shooting officer made a split second decision that left one woman dead and will haunt the officer for the rest of their life.”

      -This is the reason I asked the question of Robbie earlier – do we know the name of the officer? Was video released by the feds? What information has come out since then? No other videos, from other angles? There seems to be a blackout of details…..for some odd reason.

      I am not sure if the shooting was justified or not.

      Similar to the George Floyd situation, once you see the whole 20 minute or so interaction, the actions taken by those cops are not as bad as it originally looked. Still horrible, and punishable, but it wasn’t murder, in my opinion. Floyd had plenty of opportunity to stand down and cooperate. So far, I haven’t seen where this woman in D.C. had that same opportunity. Sunlight is the best disinfectant…….Robbie will be against that, as it will probably show that Trump wasn’t involved in coordinating the people who violently got thru security at the Capitol.

    933. jason says:

      How many seconds should the cop have to wait to make sure everything is ok?”

      Hello? There were hundred of protesters in the building all around him. Why was she any kind of threat?

      Ok, out of here before I lose it. This really makes me angry.

    934. Phil says:

      ‘They were very close”. Oh, ok then. Fire away!

      The other police were very close to demonstrators who were already in the building. Should they have been gunned down as well?

    935. NYCmike says:

      Definitely with Bitterlaw on this – the rush to judgment from both Robbie/Liz Cheney on the one side and jason/Phil on the other is wrong.

      There are not enough details public to make an informed decision at this time, other than we know the people were not let in according to the procedures in affect at that specific time.

    936. Phil says:

      Fine. Send him a campaign donation then.

      The woman’s did not deserve to be shot and killed. What the hell is wrong with some of you?

    937. NYCmike says:

      All of those protesters should have done exactly what the BLM/Antifa a-holes do – wear cameras on their heads and yell “Hands up, don’t shoot!” and have your hands up the whole time.

      In that sense, the cops did not know who was a threat and who wasn’t, the “fog of war” and all that st-ff.

    938. Bitterlaw says:

      I am actually ashamed for you.

      DO you get Philadelphia news or do you just get Harrisburg or Pittsburgh local stations? I see too dead cop stories where the cop waited too long.

      I will completely change my opinion if more evidence comes out that I am wrong. Will you?

    939. NYCmike says:

      “The woman’s did not deserve to be shot and killed.”

      -Not sure anybody said that she deserved it, Phil.

    940. NYCmike says:

      “I will completely change my opinion if more evidence comes out that I am wrong. Will you?”

      -EXACTLY!

    941. Bitterlaw says:

      Fine. Send him a campaign donation then.

      Save your money. If I actually get to serve in DC, Phil would not allow the police to stop anybody who might threaten me. lisab would stab me in the eye with a stiletto heel on a fine leather boot.

    942. Bitterlaw says:

      NYC, Cash Cow and Bitterlaw on one side.

      Jason and Phil on the other.

      lisab is probably picking out her sharpest bootheel.

    943. Bitterlaw says:

      Can we at least agree that anybody who jumps the White House fence is fair game?

    944. Phil says:

      The woman was unarmed. I’ve seen all I need to see.

      Now get your asses to DC and help Nancy string up some more of that razor wire to protect from those right wing domestic terrorists that CNN says are on every street corner.

    945. NYCmike says:

      “I’ve seen all I need to see.”

      -Phil, that was quite Robbie-esque.

    946. Bitterlaw says:

      The woman was unarmed. I’ve seen all I need to see.

      Probably 100 times in slow motion and probably from several different cameras/angles. None of which was available to the cop in real time.

      Now get your asses to DC and help Nancy string up some more of that razor wire to protect from those right wing domestic terrorists that CNN says are on every street corner.

      GFY, you quitting coward. I have never voted for a Democrat. I am going to run in order to take away one of Nancy’s yes votes. What are you going to do? Type faster?

    947. Bitterlaw says:

      I never supported the National Guard being in for the Inauguration or now. Fight with me, Phil. Not some imaginary poster.

    948. Phil says:

      Yeah, bitter. You’re a regular profile in courage.

      GFY

    949. Bitterlaw says:

      Upon reflection, I will take away “coward.” I know that you are brave in the things you deal with. I stand by the rest of it including the GFY.

    950. Bitterlaw says:

      Yeah, bitter. You’re a regular profile in courage.

      GFY

      No. Just trying to do something to take away one of Nancy’s votes. Keep typing, Phil. I heard Nancy’s afraid of you.

    951. Phil says:

      The A – Hole brotherhood. It’s unique. There’s nothing like us.

    952. Bitterlaw says:

      Nobody fights like brothers. We fight because we have strong opinions. And we’re A-holes. And sometimes the A is not capitalized.

    953. Bitterlaw says:

      In news that matters only to me – My girls team evened their record at 1-1 after a 35-24 victory. Our four best players were out due to other activities and one in Covid quarantine. We called up a 7th grader to run the point. We had one HS player and the rest 8th graders against an older team. Team win.

      Not looking good for the main character but you will have to buy the book when it comes out.

    954. jason says:

      Definitely with Bitterlaw on this – the rush to judgment from both Robbie/Liz Cheney on the one side and jason/Phil on the other is wrong.

      There are not enough details public to make an informed decision at this time, other than we know the people were not let in according to the procedures in affect at that specific time.”

      BS. The video is clear. What other “details” do you need?

      And you know the “investigation” will tainted and worthless. The fix is in, everyone conducting the investigation are partisans.

      “Rush to judgment” my ass.

    955. NYCmike says:

      ““Rush to judgment” my ass.”

      -I’ll pass on anything having to do with your ass, thank you very much!

    956. Bitterlaw says:

      Video is always clear. Cops don’t have a time machine where they can stop time….go watch 15 cell phone videos….then go back and decide whether to shoot or not.

      Considering that Cash Cow knows Walt – somebody who actually served in an elected position guarded by police – I am sure that Cash Cow is relating a perspective that is different than ours.

    957. Bitterlaw says:

      Before the accusations fly:

      Trump did not incite a riot or insurrection.
      The protesters were not a mob
      On the steps, they were protestors.
      Inside the capitol, they were trespassers.
      Inside the chambers they were criminal trespassers.
      There was no need for the over the top security for the Inauguration.
      There is no need for it now.

    958. Bitterlaw says:

      NYC was shot. His brother had COVID? Damn. Don’t stand too close to NYC. He is a magnet for bad things.

    959. NYCmike says:

      Bitterlaw,

      I am very lucky. I would not trade a day of my life with anyone.

    960. lisab says:

      DC Adopts GW Law Professor’s Model Legislation on Police Use of Force
      The D.C. Council unanimously passed a package of emergency police reform legislation that includes Cynthia Lee’s model legislation on police use of force.
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      In light of recents protests in the city against police brutality and racial injustice, the D.C. Council approved emergency legislation to limit use of force by police, improve access to body camera footage and other police reforms.
      June 12, 2020

      By Tatyana Hopkins

      The D.C. Council, in response to protests against police violence in the wake of the death of George Floyd, passed emergency legislation on Tuesday that limits the use of force by police by banning neck restraints such as chokeholds and places restrictions on the purchase of military weaponry by D.C. law enforcement agencies. It also orders the release of body cam footage more quickly.

      Additionally, the new legislation specifies the requirements for use of force when an officer is charged with a crime and asserts a justifiable force defense, incorporating a model statute on police use of deadly force developed by George Washington University law professor Cynthia Lee.

      The use of force provision included in D.C.’s emergency legislation, unanimously approved by the D.C. Council, specifies that in a criminal case against a police officer, for police use of deadly force to be considered justifiable, a jury must find that the officer’s actions—in addition to his beliefs— were reasonable.

      Ms. Lee’s model legislation on police use of force, which she proposed in a 2018 University of Illinois Law Review article, requires juries to consider not only the reasonableness of the officer’s belief but also their conduct as well.

      It also provides more guidance to juries in police use of force trials than most use of force statutes. Juries in D.C. will be required to consider three specific factors when deciding whether an officer’s actions were reasonable:

      [a.] whether the victim had or appeared to have a weapon and refused to drop it;

      [b.]whether the officer engaged in de-escalation tactics prior to using deadly force;

      [c.]and whether the officer engaged in any conduct before the use of force that increased the risk of a deadly confrontation.

    961. lisab says:

      [a.] whether the victim had or appeared to have a weapon and refused to drop it;

      [b.]whether the officer engaged in de-escalation tactics prior to using deadly force;

      [c.]and whether the officer engaged in any conduct before the use of force that increased the risk of a deadly confrontation.
      ——————————–

      it does not sound like the rules were followed

    962. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “A combination of last year’s price collapse and new regulations from the Biden Administration will likely drive U.S. oil production lower this year, but overall oil demand is going to recover. That means more imports will be called upon to fill the void.”

      So Biden is going to cost the U.S. economy tens of thousands of high paying jobs; cause higher gasoline, oil and natural gas prices; and help Putin’s Russian, Iran, and Middle East countries increase their income by selling more oil to the U.S. Biden will make us dependent on the foreign oil again.

      All signs are that Biden will be a disaster as a president. This may be Jimmy Carter II.

    963. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      976. Add this to the fact that despite his claims to the contrary, Biden did not have a plan to expedite the coronavirus vaccination effort. Yesterday, he made Trump’s plan his own. He conned the public during his campaign.

    964. lisab says:

      they did not want police in dc to say “i was afraid and thought he had a gun so i shot him”, because they said too many officers would be afraid of black men

      so, the rule is that being afraid is not enough, they actually have to have a weapon, you just cannot be afraid they have a weapon

    965. Bitterlaw says:

      Wasn’t the shooting officer a Federal officer – US Capitol Police? I believe they have their own rules.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Capitol_Police

      https://www.uscp.gov/

    966. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Just my opinion of the tragic shooting of the woman at the Capitol building:

      1.) It was inappropriate for the officer to have shot the woman;
      2.) If you join a riotous mob and storm the U.S. Capitol building, you are putting yourself at high risk of being shot in the chaos.
      3.) I would not file any criminal charges against the officer, who was put into what amounted to a no-win situation.

    967. Bitterlaw says:

      I only posted the Wiki article in regard to the structure and jurisdiction of the Capitol Police. I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE SUMMARY OF THE JANUARY 6 EVENT ABOUT INCITEMENT.

    968. Bitterlaw says:

      SDC – Jason is going to at least be semi-ashamed for you.

    969. Bitterlaw says:

      My opinion is that Jason and Phil do not want lisab shot if she attempts to stab me in the eye with the stiletto heel of a fine Italian leather boot.

    970. Bitterlaw says:

      Maybe Dave will give us a new thread if we promise to be nicer to each other.

    971. lisab says:

      did the woman kick the cop in the head with her boot?

      (i have not watched the video)

    972. lisab says:

      on an interesting side not

      pelosi and the house passed the

      “Justice in Policing Act” which sets out the basic rules in post #975

      so that the feds could prosecute cops that shot (mostly black) men because they “were afraid they had a weapon”

      although 230 congressmen co-sponsered the bill, it may not apply to federal police protecting congressmen

      i am astounded!

    973. lisab says:

      Villagers in india made giant sweaters to keep recused elephants warm.

    974. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Looks like Liz Cheney is in deep political trouble because of her impeachment vote.

      “According to a memo outlining the results, 73 percent of Republican voters and 62 percent of all voters in Wyoming expressed an unfavorable view of the three-term congresswoman. Just 10 percent of Republican primary voters and 13 percent of general election voters said they would vote to reelect her. The survey of 500 likely voters, which was conducted Jan. 25-26 by Trump pollster John McLaughlin, also presents Cheney as profoundly weak in a Republican primary. The congress member trails 54 percent to 21 percent in a head-to-head matchup against one of her announced opponents, state Sen. Anthony Bouchard.”

      Cheney is a gone in 2022; and Romney gone in 2024.

    975. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      987. Now you tell us — it would have been a great Christmas gift for Chris Christie.

    976. lisab says:

      Cheney is a gone in 2022; and Romney gone in 2024.
      ——————————

      you must be mistaken

      i heard on hhr that candidates that openly say they hate trump are going to easily win over former trump voters

    977. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      984. “Maybe Dave will give us a new thread if we promise to be nicer to each other.”

      Here is a poll for the header of the new thread. A previous header stated Liz Cheney’s impeachment vote was a sign “The Impeachment Dam” was breaking. unfortunately, Cheney was standing downstream:

      #WY01 Republican Primary:
      Bouchard 29%
      Gray 19%
      Cheney 19%

      Head-2-Head:
      Bouchard 54% (+33)
      Cheney 21%

      Gray 55% (+35)
      Cheney 20%

      McLaughlin & Associates/Save America 1/25-26
      https://politico.com/f/?id=00000177-467b-da54-a9ff-f6fb0a540000

    978. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Do you approve or disapprove of the executive order which cancels the Keystone XL pipeline permit:

      Approve 38%
      Disapprove 43%
      @YouGovAmerica/@TheEconomist/RV,1/24-26

      Wait until gasoline prices start skyrocketing; Obama had the brains to not interfere with the fracking boom, in fact he took credit for it. Biden’s brain is …

    979. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      2022 Vermont Senate GE:
      Phil Scott (R) 41% (+3)
      Patrick Leahy (D-inc) 38%
      Braun Research/@vprnet/@VermontPBS, LV, 9/3-15

      Biden Job Approval Among adults:
      Approve 51%
      Disapprove 33%
      Among registered voters:
      Approve 52%
      Disapprove 36%
      @YouGovAmerica @TheEconomist 1/24-26

      Biden Job Approval:
      Approve 48%
      Disapprove 48%
      @Rasmussen_Poll, LV, 1/24-26

    980. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Concern troll’s unraveling over the last several days comes at a time when things are not going well for the Democrats:

      “Some lawmakers, anticipating Trump’s acquittal, are now seeking a less serious and consequential sanction: a congressional censure, as Axios reports:

      Sens. Tim Kaine and Susan Collins are privately pitching their colleagues on a bipartisan resolution censuring former President Trump, three sources familiar with the discussions tell Axios …

      Senators are looking for a way to condemn Trump on the record as it becomes increasingly unlikely Democrats will obtain the 17 Republican votes needed to gain a conviction in his second impeachment.”

    981. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      “TENNEY(R) SAYS SHE GAINED 93 VOTES ON WEDNESDAY IN THE 22ND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT RACE. LEAD NOW at 122 WITH ABOUT 500 BALLOTS TO BE COUNTED.”

      –Syracuse Newspaper

    982. Sheeple,jr. says:

      #993- SDC
      I wonder if Wissing will start a new thread highlighting Liz Cheney’s abysmal re-elect numbers in WY like the one he currently has showing the same for Josh Hawley(R-MO)?

    983. jason says:

      1.) It was inappropriate for the officer to have shot the woman;
      2.) If you join a riotous mob and storm the U.S. Capitol building, you are putting yourself at high risk of being shot in the chaos.
      3.) I would not file any criminal charges against the officer, who was put into what amounted to a no-win situation.”

      I agree with one and two. I don’t agree with three at all.

    984. jason says:

      Cops don’t have a time machine where they can stop time…”

      Bitter keeps making this straw argument over and over no matter how ridiculous.

      The “split second decision” does apply, but not for every situation.

      It applies for example if the cops tell someone to drop their weapon and they raise their hand with a black cell phone in it. That is the situation where it applies.

      In this case there was no threat of a weapon against the officer, it was just one more trespasser entering when hundreds had already done so. There is no imminent threat to anybody.

    985. jason says:

      “TENNEY(R) SAYS SHE GAINED 93 VOTES ON WEDNESDAY IN THE 22ND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT RACE. LEAD NOW at 122 WITH ABOUT 500 BALLOTS TO BE COUNTED.”

      Great news but how many times have we already heard “all ballots were counted” or “very few remain to be counted”.

    986. jason says:

      For the betting crowd….the Tenney news did now make a 4-1 favorite at Predictit.

    987. jason says:

      Dammit…M +1

    988. jason says:

      “just 10 percent of Republican primary voters and 13 percent of general election voters said they would vote to reelect her”

      I remember a Robbie Goebbels predicting Liz Cheney was a strong candidate to replace McCarthy if Trump lost….

      The good thing about this poll is that it will give any fence sitters a good reason to purge this turncoat from the leadership.

    989. jason says:

      I think Liz Cheney made the same type of political miscalculation Nikki Haley did.

      Frankly I don’t think Liz Cheney thinks Trump incited a riot anymore than Nikki Haley supports BLM.

      But both succumbed to the initial “shock and awe” campaign by the MSM that made them think it was politically expedient to take these pandering positions.

      Liz Cheney won’t recover. Haley still has time.

      But both showed a remarkable disconnect with the people that voted/supported them.

    990. Marv says:

      Good morning Jason,

      You observation is quite succinct and on point.

      I agree that Ms Cheney is likely finished and Haley’s path to elected office is narrow. The female on a GOP national ticket is more likely to be Noem than Haley, in my opinion.

    991. WizardofCozz says:

      I agree with Marv, Noem is doing and saying all the right things, I would love to see a Noem/Desantis or Desantis/Noem ticket in 24. Though its a long ways away and alot can happen between now and then.

    992. Bitterlaw says:

      Wizz – How are the Lancers doing? My girls won last night because … our 4 best players were out and its girls rec basketball and crazy things happen.

    993. Chicon says:

      1003 – exactly right, imo.

    994. Cash Cow TM says:

      Good news!

      1. Walt, Mrs. Walt and their son all got their stimulus checks/

      2. Walt got his first COVID shot today.

      3. Liz Cheney on her way out the door.

    995. Dylan says:

      1003–Jason–Goober Graham also showed remarkable surrender on the floor of the senate in one of his almost daily waffle fests and he showed his true colors–he felt safe to surrender since he just won reelection. Don’t leave him off the list of those who must face the guillotine!

    996. jason says:

      Goober was just re-elected so will have to wait to get rid of him.

      First things first. Purge Liz Cheney from the leadership and then from Congress.

      I am actually sorry Cheney decided to be a turncoat and back stab her constituents.

      I am not an “endless war” critic, I have supported all the interventions. I am probably very close ideologically on foreign policy to Cheney. I think you need “interventionists” so to speak in Congress.

      But she has sold out to the MSM and Dems. Too bad.

    997. jason says:

      Desantis/Noem ticket in 24″

      It is a good ticket, but if they don’t get rid of VBM Rs are not winning any presidential elections.

      And SDC says VBM is here to stay, so there is that.

    998. WizardofCozz says:

      We are 9-1 playing in the semi-finals of our League Tourney. Just put in a new offense that plays to the strengths of my players I have, now that I’ve lost two kids to ACL tears. I’ve got two tough, physical posts, so we are going to run more hi/low and less dribble drive. But I’ve only had 2 days to practice it, I don’t normally like doing this, this late in the season, but we need to pivot and focus on what we do well. Team we play tonight is a tough M2M defensive team, but they don’t shoot great, if we can keep our Turnovers down we will have a shot. Going into season I thought we could go undefeated, now with injuries if we can get to 14 wins with as young as we are now I’ll be happy.

    999. jason says:

      The theory that “if you can’t beat them, join them” and that Rs should embrace VBM is suicidal in my view.

      Even if Rs were willing to cheat as much as the Dems as a strategy, they can’t compete in the inner city fraud, where a huge amount of the votes are and where it is much easier to have fraud when you have all the local officials onboard.

      So if SDC is right that VBM is here to stay, so is massive fraud here to stay.

    1000. Wobbles says:

      There should be an investigation on why Wizard’s kids have so many injuries.

      I hope the Biden administration takes action.

    1001. WizardofCozz says:

      Wobbles,

      What’s crazy is I have another play with a knee brace on a knee she blew out 2 years ago, and a 4th player that wears two knee braces cause she has meniscus issues, and a 5th player who has a severe case of runner’s knee. Worst knee issues i’ve ever seen on one team in 13 years of coaching!!

    1002. lisab says:

      In this case there was no threat of a weapon against the officer, it was just one more trespasser entering when hundreds had already done so. There is no imminent threat to anybody.
      ——————————-

      jason,

      you are ignoring the fact she was a trump supporter and very dangerous to the gope

      she had to be executed on site

    1003. lisab says:

      or on sight 🙂

      either way, she was a danger to the establishment.

    1004. Wobbles says:

      Wobbles,

      What’s crazy is I have another play with a knee brace on a knee she blew out 2 years ago, and a 4th player that wears two knee braces cause she has meniscus issues, and a 5th player who has a severe case of runner’s knee. Worst knee issues i’ve ever seen on one team in 13 years of coaching!!”

      Very touching, Wizard is one of the few people here that realize parodies are people too.

      Let him be an example to the rest of you heartless bastards.

    1005. Wobbles says:

      jason,

      you are ignoring the fact she was a trump supporter and very dangerous to the gope

      she had to be executed on site”

      Not only that, she was supposedly a QAnon supporter.

      She was lucky she was killed humanely, she should have been tortured first.

    1006. jason says:

      she had to be executed on site”

      She was executed onsite.

    1007. WizardofCozz says:

      Wobbles,

      I’m part of the PLM movement (Parodies Lives Matter) LOL!!!

    1008. Bitterlaw says:

      Good luck, Wizz. Evolution did not contemplate the invention of hardwood floors and basketballs. Unfortunately, girls’ knees pay a price.

    1009. Wobbles says:

      Hardwood floors was a racist ploy to damage the knees of minority players.

    1010. Meldrim says:

      “971. Bitterlaw says:
      January 27, 2021 at 11:28 pm

      Before the accusations fly:

      Trump did not incite a riot or insurrection.
      The protesters were not a mob
      On the steps, they were protestors.
      Inside the capitol, they were trespassers.
      Inside the chambers they were criminal trespassers.
      There was no need for the over the top security for the Inauguration.
      There is no need for it now.”

      Bitter, I agree with everything that you wrote except for the part about the protesters not being a mob. When they flooded the Capitol and started breaking in, they became a mob. There was no “insurrection” (just as with claims of “sedition,” that is pure Leftist propaganda), but they crossed the line between legal protesters and an illegal mob when they went up those Capitol steps.

    1011. lisab says:

      She was executed onsite
      ——————————

      sorry, not used to cops shooting unarmed women

      i’ll get the lingo down eventually

    1012. Gordon Allen says:

      Can someone more current and relevant tell me what Game Stop is/ represents?

    1013. NYCmike says:

      “Even if Rs were willing to cheat as much as the Dems as a strategy, they can’t compete in the inner city fraud, where a huge amount of the votes are and where it is much easier to have fraud when you have all the local officials onboard.”

      Yup.

      Atlanta
      Milwaukee
      Detroit
      Philadelphia
      Pittsburgh
      Las Vegas/Reno
      Phoenix

      There is a reason those states were picked, as opposed to Ohio and Florida and North Carolina (although the last one needs to be watched closely).

    1014. NYCmike says:

      “Can someone more current and relevant tell me what Game Stop is/ represents?”

      -Greed is good, unless you are not part of the club.

    1015. WizardofCozz says:

      Hopefully I can pull this off Gordon,

      A bunch of hedgefunds made a hedge on the stock market that gamestop would lose value over the next month or so. Individuals at the reddit subgroup “wallstreetbets” got wind of this and decided to go all out buying stock in gamestop, instead of gamestop losing value it increased in value 300%. The hedgefunds got mad and cried foul, and now a bunch of online apps have made it where you can only sale your gamestop stock but not buy. Pretty corrupt crap if you ask me.

    1016. NYCmike says:

      Wizard,

      I hope it doesn’t take that long to diagram a play on a time out!

    1017. Smack says:

      Haley/Rubio 2024

      America, Land of the Free!

    1018. NYCmike says:

      I do find it hilarious that I agree with AOC about holding hearings on RobinHood and other brokers stopping smaller investors from BUYING GameStop and other stocks……except, of course, that she never mentions losses for those small investors, only gains.

    1019. Gordon Allen says:

      Stuart Barney agrees with you Wizard. So you must be right; sounds like an artificial restraint on trade. Is the SEC looking at this? Thanks

    1020. NYCmike says:

      Gordon going with the long-winded version…….not a shock.

    1021. NYCmike says:

      “Is the SEC looking at this?”

      -If they do, they will seek to arrest DFV and other people from the Reddit forum

    1022. NYCmike says:

      #1035 is a prediction.

    1023. Meldrim says:

      I don’t know whether or not what the online trading apps did in reaction was legal, but I do know that market manipulation–such as what those “Wallstreetbets” Reddit users did–is illegal. Had a large group of brokers done what the Wallstreetbets guys did, the SEC and FINRA already would have announced investigations into their coordinated market manipulation.

    1024. Meldrim says:

      NYCmike, I hadn’t seen your posts #1035 and 1036 when I wrote mine. I agree that, if the SEC looks into this (although they may look the other way because of politics), it is the Wallstreetbets guys who should be worried the most.

    1025. NYCmike says:

      #1037 – laughable.

      The original person saw an imbalance, and took advantage of it, and then showed his work to others, who saw they could make money and f*ck with hedge fund people.

      Everything was publicly known.

      Good for them, bad on the trading apps.

    1026. NYCmike says:

      “it is the Wallstreetbets guys who should be worried the most.”

      -Maybe, but not because of their actions. Most likely because of the party who would lose if they win.

    1027. NYCmike says:

      If the people who were shorting those stocks hadn’t made the trades they made, the WallStreetBets guys couldn’t have bet against them.

      Are you saying that only the hedge funds are allowed to make bets?

    1028. NYCmike says:

      ” Had a large group of brokers done what the Wallstreetbets guys did, the SEC and FINRA already would have announced investigations into their coordinated market manipulation.”

      -If “brokers” did something together, YES, that is the definition of coordinated market manipulation, which is why NOT ALLOWING BUYS should be punished.

      I can see restricting buys on margin, but not when a person has liquid cash to make the trade.

      Is the stock market rigged for some and not for others?