EGO BOOST
GALLUP
AMERICAN RESEARCH GROUP
PUBLIC POLICY POLLING
RASMUSSEN REPORTS
    Search

    Youngkin Within 2% of McAuliffe in VA

    We have a new poll from co/efficient for the race in Virginia that shows former Governor Terry McAuliffe with a small 2% lead over Republican Glenn Youngkin.

    GOVERNOR – VIRGINIA (co/efficient)
    Terry McAuliffe (D) 47%
    Glenn Youngkin (R) 45%

    This poll was done August 8-9 among 1200 likely voters.

    Posted by Dave at 11:35 am
    Filed under: General | Comments (854)

    854 Responses to “Youngkin Within 2% of McAuliffe in VA”

    1. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      First

    2. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Over the past 3 months the Breitbart News page on Facebook generated nearly 40 million interactions — more than The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, and HuffPo – COMBINED.” https://breitbart.com/tech/2021/08/05/exclusive-breitbart-news-destroys-establishment-media-on-facebook/

    3. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Rasmussen_Poll
      Reader Alert: Last night we recorded the lowest single-overnight result in President Biden’s daily job approval % in his presidency. Since this 500 national LV result is averaged into our rolling avg of 1500 LV’s, his 3-day rolling approval % today will be unchanged.

    4. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      From Axios:

      “A new preprint study that raises concerns about the mRNA vaccines’ effectiveness against Delta — particularly Pfizer’s — has already grabbed the attention of top Biden administration officials.

      What they’re saying: The study found the Pfizer vaccine was only 42% effective against infection in July, when the Delta variant was dominant. “If that’s not a wakeup call, I don’t know what is,” a senior Biden official told Axios.”

    5. Cash Cow TM says:

      Here in the eastern panhandle of WV, we get all the D.C. stations that also cover heavily populated VA D.C. suburbs and in NOVA all the way Winchester and the Shenandoah Valley.

      Youngkin ads started months ago to define him as a candidate while McAwful ads did not appear until months later.

      In the last several weeks McAwful ads are up attacking Youngkin as a Trump clone.

      Very quickly, Youngkin response TV ads appeared to counter those negative ads by McAwful as outright lies and fearmongering.

      All of Youngkin’s ads are very well done. Youngkin looks good on TV. Quite different from Trump on TV ( who came across as being an mean spirited, inarticulate, penchant boob and dick)

      IMO, as they get closer to election day, Youngkin needs to nationalize the election (and tie (D) McAwful to (D) Biden) in the sense of appealing to Biden voters (Indys and conservative Ds) who have buyer’s remorse now that they have seen the Biden administration in action (illegal immigration, inflation, economy, COVID, Afgannystan, etc., etc.)

    6. jason says:

      From Axios:

      “A new preprint study that raises concerns about the mRNA vaccines’ effectiveness against Delta — particularly Pfizer’s — has already grabbed the attention of top Biden administration officials.

      What they’re saying: The study found the Pfizer vaccine was only 42% effective against infection in July, when the Delta variant was dominant. “If that’s not a wakeup call, I don’t know what is,” a senior Biden official told Axios.””

      Question is do you believe anything coming out of a left wing pseudo news organization or a far left wing Biden presidency?

    7. jason says:

      Over the past 3 months the Breitbart News page on Facebook generated nearly 40 million interactions — more than The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Los Angeles Times, and HuffPo – COMBINED.” ”

      Zzzzzzzz…”interactions” ….hits on a website are completely different from viewership on left wing media and readership on left wing print media.

      HHR has hundred or thousands of “hits”, but how many of us click on it 20 or 30 times a day.

    8. jason says:

      Trump on TV ( who came across as being an mean spirited, inarticulate, penchant boob and dick)

      Personally I found Trump to be pretty articulate and a great communicator. I might not always agree on the content, but I thought the delivery was pretty dammed good.

    9. jason says:

      BREAKING: WH Press Secretary Jen Psaki says if Ron DeSantis revokes the paychecks of school officials who require masks, the Biden administration may be able to pay them instead.”

      The Biden Administration has money to pay school officials in Florida?

      Who knew?

    10. lisab says:

      jason,

      trump was mean

      the people of radnor would rather have

      higher taxes
      $4+ gas
      dependence on the middle east for oil
      high inflation
      our jobs outsourced to china
      open borders
      runaway government spending

      and it has only been 7 months

    11. jason says:

      Nate Silverhack still has Biden at 49.9%

      Its a hard slog however.

      He “adjusts” Rasmussen from 47-52 to 50-46.

      https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/voters/

    12. lisab says:

      “Don’t want the COVID-19 vaccine? Then pay the full cost if you land in the hospital.”

    13. lisab says:

      Wealth Tax and IRS Funding Could Pay for Entire $3.5T Bill, Warren Writes

    14. lisab says:

      PA Attorney General Shapiro: Violence is ‘direct result of spoon-fed lies’ of GOP

    15. lisab says:

      Florida Hospitals Are “Stacking Patients In Hallways” As The Delta Variant Surges

    16. lisab says:

      Texas’ largest school district defies governor, approves mask mandate for students

    17. lisab says:

      4 teachers died of COVID within 24 hours in Broward County, Florida. Schools there are defying Gov. DeSantis’ ban on mask mandates.

    18. Phil says:

      The four teachers turned out to be two and neither picked up the virus while teaching. They picked it up over the summer.

    19. Cash Cow TM says:

      ALERT!

      AOL news has only 6 (SIX) COVID stories up.

      DRUDGE has less than 10 !

      VERY DISAPPOINTING.
      Has the MSM decided it has beaten this dead horse long enough?

      Fear mongering reporters must be scurrying off to cover Tallyban takeover in Gannystan, earthquake in Haiti, wildfires (caused by Trump) in the west…

    20. Gordon Allen says:

      our gated community with 5-6000 residents, and hundreds of staff,is very heavily vaccinated,and we haven’t had a single “case” of covd for many months; nor have the unmasked students or teachers of Lee County since early last year.They started school last week.
      Its a mystery where these ” cases” come from,although the NCH hospital has had covd cases.
      Really afraid of being a jinx,but there seems no undue concern anywhere,so its a mystery

    21. Bitterlaw says:

      NYC – I just emptied my Jeep of all nonessential items to see how much room we will have to carry my daughter to school. It should be fine because, unlike her friends, she is not taking a suitcase filled only with shoes. You have a fleet of trucks to move your son.

    22. Tgca says:

      Why does Bitter have to carry his daughter to school?

      Geez! She’s a grown woman now and should be able to walk on her own.

      It’s always hard for parents to let go and let their kids start on their own but there’s no need to be carrying your child once they’ve graduated high school.

      Last time I was carried was like when I was four but then got dropped on my head so ever since then, I refuse to let anyone carry me.

    23. jason says:

      4 teachers died of COVID within 24 hours in Broward County, Florida. ”

      And school didn’t even start yet.

    24. lisab says:

      it will be the great desantis teacher massacre of 2021

    25. Wes says:

      It’s not possible for Youngkin to have ads up, Walt.

      Jason literally told us the media would refuse to air GOP ads, federal law and FEC regulations be damned.

    26. lisab says:

      but they can refuse many political ads

      famously

      “CNN won’t run pro-Trump ad warning Biden will raise taxes on middle class“

      “WarnerMedia Commercial Clearance has not accepted America First Action’s advertisement ‘We Are America’ for its networks as the ad does not meet its commercial clearance standards,” the email states. “Specifically, the ad asserts that Biden will raise taxes on the middle class. That claim is not adequately substantiated and has been judged false by independent fact-checkers. The advertisement also mischaracterizes Nancy Pelosi as a socialist.”

    27. lisab says:

      that was october 2020 btw

      and the right was up in arms about it

    28. jason says:

      Of course the media DOES refuse GOP ads.

      “Oct 3, 2019 — CNN said it will not run the ads because they disparage the network’s journalists and make false claims while discussing impeachment.

      “CNN’s parent company, WarnerMedia Inc., rejected two ads from President Trump’s reelection campaign that contained baseless allegations of widespread election fraud, Bloomberg reported Monday.”

      “CNN is refusing to run an ad from President Trump’s reelection campaign that questions former Vice President Joe Biden’s role in the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor”

      “MSNBC host Joe Scarborough said at roughly the same time Friday morning that his network would not air clips from President Trump’s Thursday night rally because “he is clearly not well.”

      “The Democrats at some networks are refusing to air President Trump’s re-election campaign ads, like CNN and NBC, targeting Joe Biden and his ties to Ukraine,” “Fox & Friends” host Brian Kilmeade said Friday, queuing up Bruce.

      But wes thinks it can’t happen because the MSM isn’t biased.

      And of course Republicans and conservatives are being de-platformed in thousands of instances on social media, conservative sites have been banned, conservative content has been taken off You Tube and Twitter and Facebook.

    29. lisab says:

      to think … biden would raise taxes … tch

    30. jason says:

      It’s not possible for Youngkin to have ads up, Walt.

      Jason literally told us the media would refuse to air GOP ads, federal law and FEC regulations be damned.”

      The intellectual dishonesty in this post is astounding.

      We went from my accurate statement that the MSM does refuse to air GOP ads and the conservative voices and contents are being silenced on social media to “it’s impossible for Youngkin to have ads up”.

      You can make this sh-t up.

    31. lisab says:

      it is also very true that a republican can win important elections in purple states

      people like chalie baker will be very competitive

    32. jason says:

      In some races Rs will overcome fraud and media bias.

      In others they won’t.

      In any case, it doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

    33. jason says:

      Yesterday FL had 24000 Covid cases. Reported, the actual number is probably a lot higher.

      29 deaths. Mostly likely among people with several other co-morbidities.

      You are going mask children, the least vulnerable population, for a disease that is 99.9 survivable even among the general population?

    34. jason says:

      “Democrat President Joe Biden’s administration has reportedly instructed embassy staff in Kabul to destroy American flags to minimize the embarrassment the administration will face through propaganda produced by the Taliban as the extremist group has rapidly seized large swaths of the country.”

      Normal.

    35. Phil says:

      Networks absolutely refused Republican ads and did it to the Trump campaign with at least several of his campaign ads.

      ….and don’t even begin to get me started on discussion of what social media is pulling.

      But, all this is just, uh, normal.

    36. lisab says:

      i need a haircut urgently

      I’m beginning to look like a southern baptist

    37. jason says:

      Look, evidently the FEC says it is not nice to be biased so the MSM takes that very seriously.

    38. jason says:

      Afghanistan falling and lisab having a bad hair day?

      It’s a complete disaster.

    39. jason says:

      Biden issues a memorable and eloquent statement, I am sure the unbiased MSM will elevate it to the status it deserves:

      I was the fourth president to preside over an American troop presence in Afghanistan… I would not, and will not, pass this war onto a fifth.”

    40. jason says:

      And to make things worse:

      “Breaking News: CNN Reports Maskless Teacher Killed Ferris Bueller”

    41. Wes says:

      No, they didn’t, Phil. They refused to air an ad Trump wanted to run in 2017. Personally I don’t agree with this, but federal law doesn’t require airing political ads during an inactive election period. They could refuse to air the Trump ad back then because the election was 45 months away, and Trump had no opponent at the time.

    42. Phil says:

      No, there is no federal law requiring they run the ad that early but there is no law saying they couldn’t either. And you think they would have used the same criteria if a Democratic candidate had attempted to run an ad during the same time period??

      Come on, Wes.

    43. Wes says:

      You must have missed the part of my post where I explicitly said I don’t agree with their refusing to air the Trump ad in 2017. The fact remains though that they’re under no obligation to air political ads outside an active election period.

    44. lisab says:

      the ad i posted about was in October 2020

    45. Phil says:

      So there is a law requiring the airing of political ads. Good. Seems that makes the decision not to run the ad even worse, does it not?

      …and no, if they weren’t under any obligation to run the ad and refused to, I’m just asking you if they would have made the same decision if it had been a Democratic ad.

      You and I both know damned well the answer to that one.

    46. Phil says:

      BTW, has the MSM issued any bulletins on the type of ice cream our commander in chief is having during his Camp Davis vacation in the midst of the fall of Afghanistan? You know, more hard hitting reporting on the really important issues during this news cycle and our President’s reaction to them.

    47. jason says:

      The fact remains though that they’re under no obligation to air political ads outside an active election period”

      Right. So what is the problem in saying the MSM will refuse to air GOP ads because of bias.

    48. jason says:

      “Oct 3, 2019 — CNN said it will not run the ads because they disparage the network’s journalists and make false claims while discussing impeachment.

      “CNN’s parent company, WarnerMedia Inc., rejected two ads from President Trump’s reelection campaign that contained baseless allegations of widespread election fraud, Bloomberg reported Monday.”

      “CNN is refusing to run an ad from President Trump’s reelection campaign that questions former Vice President Joe Biden’s role in the firing of a Ukrainian prosecutor”

      “MSNBC host Joe Scarborough said at roughly the same time Friday morning that his network would not air clips from President Trump’s Thursday night rally because “he is clearly not well.”

      “The Democrats at some networks are refusing to air President Trump’s re-election campaign ads, like CNN and NBC, targeting Joe Biden and his ties to Ukraine,” “Fox & Friends” host Brian Kilmeade said Friday, queuing up Bruce.

    49. Phil says:

      48

      Exactly.

    50. Wes says:

      Well, Jason, when they do that, you’ll have a point, but literally the only example you gave was during a time when the law didn’t require stations to air political ads.

      Personally I think the law should require networks to air any political ads regardless of proximity of elections, that’s not the statute now.

    51. Wes says:

      Jason seems to have some kind of problem understanding October 2019 was before the 2020 election season. Honestly I’m not surprised.

    52. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      43. “The fact remains though that they’re under no obligation to air political ads outside an active election period.”

      That is an open question. Justice Thomas made a good argument that internet companies should be treated as common carriers, subject to free speech regulations:

      “As Thomas showed, these companies are more like common carriers or public utilities than private companies. And they must be regulated as such: AT&T can’t refuse to open a phone account for you or limit your conversations based on your worldview. Likewise, Southwest Airlines can’t pick and choose who rides its aircraft based on their opinions about transgenderism or #Russiagate. Yet the tech giants get to do exactly that. Why?

      Thomas also likened Big Tech to “public accommodations,” such as hotels and baseball stadiums, which are legally required to serve everyone and not discriminate.

      Nor did Thomas buy free-market absolutists’ argument about competition limiting Big Tech tyranny. He pointed to the “substantial barriers to entry” facing newcomers. The fate of Parler proves the justice’s point. When the Twitter alternative offered a censorship-free platform, Big Tech colluded to crush it.

      We’re facing a new form of censorship, in some ways far more sinister than the state-directed variety. Democrats and their media allies are happy to deputize Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg to censor the deplorables; there is no recourse or appeal, because the people doing the censoring are nameless, faceless Silicon Valley operatives.”

      Justice Thomas is absolutely right, and tech censorship needs to be ended.

    53. Wes says:

      So, Jason, if networks are going to refuse to air GOP political ads, then why did Walt mention seeing ads for Glenn Youngkin?

      You know, I’m all for being opposed to lying and disinformation by the media. I feel the same way about lying and disinformation on here by you.

    54. Wes says:

      I agree, SDC. Facebook, YouTube, and others should have no more right to censor political content they disagree with than networks. Republicans in Congress should push for putting online platforms under the same regulations as TV- and radio-based media.

    55. jason says:

      I feel the same way about lying and disinformation on here by you.”

      You are being extremely dishonest.

      In a previous thread I commented that the media bias was going to be detrimental to Rs, and one example was refusing to run GOP ads.

      Obviously I didn’t say they would refuse EVERY or ALL GOP ads, so your comment about Youngkin’s ads is really asinine.

      Again, why don’t you just admit that I was right about saying the MSM refuses R ads instead of changing the goal posts to claim no GOP ad will ever air.

    56. jason says:

      Well, Jason, when they do that, you’ll have a point, but literally the only example you gave was during a time when the law didn’t require stations to air political ads.”

      No, I gave an example of media bias against Rs, which was the topic at hand.

    57. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      55. I actually believe most posters on the board are in general agreement on these sort of issues. A lot of the discussion is whether you view the glass half-full or half-empty.

      Noticed concerned troll (the self proclaimed only true Republican) made a cameo appearance, and criticized Biden. Of course in the future, he will reappear and criticize DiSantis if it looks like he will be the Republican nominee, and state he cannot vote for him; and will go bonkers if Trump appears likely to be renominated again.

    58. jason says:

      lisab said this is from October 2020

      “CNN won’t run pro-Trump ad warning Biden will raise taxes on middle class“

      “WarnerMedia Commercial Clearance has not accepted America First Action’s advertisement ‘We Are America’ for its networks as the ad does not meet its commercial clearance standards,” the email states. “Specifically, the ad asserts that Biden will raise taxes on the middle class. That claim is not adequately substantiated and has been judged false by independent fact-checkers. The advertisement also mischaracterizes Nancy Pelosi as a socialist.”

      But again the point is not that networks don’t have to run R ads, the point is that they don’t due to bias.

    59. lisab says:

      Afghanistan falling and lisab having a bad hair day?

      It’s a complete disaster.
      ———————————

      frizzing could be involved

    60. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      From President Biden’s statement on Afghanistan:

      “Third, I have directed the Secretary of State to support President Ghani and other Afghan leaders as they seek to prevent further bloodshed and pursue a political settlement.”

      Or another words, as they put up the white flag and surrender Afghanistan to the Taliban.

    61. jason says:

      Give Amoral Scumbag the Suicide Hotline number…

      “Broke would be an improvement for Michael Avenatti.

      The jail-bound lawyer who once took on former President Donald Trump is so impoverished that he sleeps on an air mattress at a friend’s house and can’t get a dime from anyone in his family, a newly unsealed court filing reveals.

      With mountainous debt and restitution demands, the once-brash lawyer said in the financial document from July 2020 that he’s beyond broke.”

    62. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The New York Times ran an article about Hunter Biden’s Los Angeles “art sale”.

      “This summer, however, it has unexpectedly become one of the most talked about galleries in the nation, thanks to its plans to sell works by another relative newcomer to the art world: a fledgling artist who happens to be the son of the president of the United States.

      The gallery is planning to sell 15 works by Hunter Biden, and is asking as much as $500,000 apiece. The prices — which are high for a novice artist — have raised questions in Washington about whether the works might attract buyers seeking to curry favor with the Biden White House.”

      Hunter Biden’s art dealer, Berges, said Biden’s art was special: “it has a profound energy that for me brings hope, and assurance for a better future.” Berges has longstanding ties to China, and said in 2015 he wanted to be the art world’s “lead guy in China”.

      The arrogance of the sleazy Obama/Clinton/Biden troika of corruption. They are taunting everyone by showing they can enrich themselves in plain view.

    63. Cash Cow TM says:

      “…then why did Walt mention seeing ads for Glenn Youngkin?”
      ********************
      Walt did not post that.
      He is too busy doing chores.

      Cow posted that.

    64. Bitterlaw says:

      Damn. I go to a party hosted by parents for my daughter and her friends who are all leaving for college in the next few days and come back to….a fight over TV ads and lisab’s bad hair day. WTF That’s the best you can do? There was so much hope after last night’s cage match. Very disappointed in you, people. Step it up.

    65. Wobbles says:

      I wonder if the Biden Troll will go 50/50 with me for a Biden art work that has profound energy and brings hope and assurance of a better future.

      What I propose is it stay 6 months at his house and 6 months in mine.

      I am sure we can sell it at a profit later if we could ever bear to part with it.

    66. Bitterlaw says:

      Listened to the BBC today. There was an interview with a 20 year old Afghan woman studying at a college in Kabul. In 2 weeks, she will be brutalized or dead if she does not escape.

      Second story was about American embassy staff destroying secret documents. Good job, State Department. Make sure to make an announcement that encourages the Taliban to race to Kabul even faster to seize what documents they can.

    67. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Biden’s approval ratings from polls Nate Silver posted Saturday:

      Rasmussen Poll
      47% Approve
      52% Disapprove

      Trafalgar Group
      47% Approve
      48% Disapprove

      However, a Morning Consult online poll of 2,200 adults found Biden’s approval rating had risen three points:

      56% Approve
      40% Disapprove

    68. Gordon Allen says:

      Morning Consult must have polled the WH staff. They can’t be serious. Nor be taken seriously

    69. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      #68 & 69- GA & SDC
      Maybe you guys can find Biden’s approval/ disapproval rating in the Morning Consult Poll. I cannot. It appears to be an Olympics’ poll.
      It could be that the approval rating was thrown into the polling results as a demographic and is a secondary data point.

      https://morningconsult.com/2021/08/13/post-tokyo-olympics-poll/

    70. Phil says:

      Well, there you have it folks. Biden at 56%.

      LOL

    71. Pitchaboy says:

      Mr. Biden proves that there isn’t a foreign policy issue that he could be right. In a Democratic society, you get what you vote for or cheat for.

    72. Phil says:

      Joe Biden is the defender of the free world.

      Lol

      If you are living in Taiwan I bet you are feeling really secure now.

    73. jason says:

      istened to the BBC today. There was an interview with a 20 year old Afghan woman studying at a college in Kabul. In 2 weeks, she will be brutalized or dead if she does not escape.”

      If Trump was still in office, you wouldn’t have to go to the BBC for that story.

    74. Tgca says:

      Well this clip by Biden a month ago stating that the Taliban taking over Afghanistan and the need to evacuate Americans ain’t gonna happen because the Taliban is significantly outnumbered by a well-trained and well-equipped Afghan army, comparable to any other country in the world, with weaponry and air power.

      https://twitter.com/BryanDeanWright/status/1426710333264179214

    75. Tgca says:

      73

      Praise Lord Haysoos!

      Pitch is alive and well.

    76. Tgca says:

      Though I’m not a fan of nation building in MANY circumstances, just cutting and running and leaving a nation on its own with the lions at the gate after 20 years of supporting that nation is awful foreign policy because the world is watching and it sends the message to those potential future allies in hot zones the US can’t be trusted so why ally with it in the future.

      There was a way to slowly and safely exit from Afghanistan over time but now it appears this country will go back to chaos but with the added benefit of giving the Taliban updated and advanced weaponry and lessons learned to hold on to their refound power.

      I’m terrified for the children, females, and enemies of the Taliban left behind and what will happen to them, as well as establishing new opportunities for terrorists to train.

      This has got to be one of the biggest blunders in foreign policy in US history.

    77. Gordon Allen says:

      As I’ve said repeatedly I’m more afraid of What Xi and Putin think; and what they’ll do.

    78. dylan says:

      The speed at which Afghanistan fell is also a figurative lesson for how fast America could dissolve–there are 3.4 years left of this . Does anyone here not think the USA could collapse as quick? Taiwan is next . . . . .and there will be n’ary a shot fired in defense.

    79. dylan says:

      The only thing Xi and Putin need fear is the law of unintended consequences. Any invasion has that component to it. They have nothing to fear from Biden and the US Military. All Biden will do is say “I am here to negotiate.” . . . .

    80. jason says:

      I am sure the MSM will refuse to run this ad because of “misinformation”?

      “Virginia’s Democratic gubernatorial nominee Terry McAuliffe released a new ad promoting his goal of “growing Virginia’s economy”—but the workers pictured in the ad are in Florida.

      The new ad from McAuliffe, who is running for his second term as governor, includes stock footage sold by Getty Images of a diverse pair of workers in Florida, a Washington Free Beacon investigation found. The “workers walking through metal fabrication shop stock video” was shot in Florida in February 2019 and can be purchased for $170.”

    81. Phil says:

      Absolutely.

    82. jason says:

      Taiwan is next . . . . .and there will be n’ary a shot fired in defense”

      There are huge differences.

      First, China cannot count on a strong internal internal sympathy like the Taliban enjoyed. The Taiwanese are pretty much united that they don’t want to be Communist.

      Second, a destroyed Taiwan is of little use for China. Taiwan is a valuable asset, China has no interest in having it destroyed.

      Third, Taiwan is a lot easier to defend than Kabul. In addition, it has a formidable Air Force with the capability to strike mainland China.

      I think a military invasion of Taiwan is unlikely, and a sustained bombing and missile attack would not be in China’s interest and would be diplomatically and economically damaging to China.

      Most likely China will use its increasing influence to isolate Taiwan politically and economically and force it to a agree with a political solution, such as China would regain control but Taiwan could keep its economy capitalist.

    83. jason says:

      And then there is this:

      “Taiwan is already a latent nuclear power. The move to nuclear weapons would not take long given its current materials and technical capacity.

      Taiwan already has two operational nuclear power plants on opposite ends of the island that could produce plutonium. It could use a ‘Japan option’ of enriching its radioactive materials for weaponisation in a short timeframe.

      Would a nuclear-armed Taiwan deter the PRC from an invasion? The use of nuclear weapons by a nuclear-armed Taiwan would certainly make an already difficult invasion for Xi and the PLA more costly. History suggests that once Taiwan has nuclear weapons, the PRC will become much less aggressive towards it—making the development of nuclear weapons more attractive.

      Tsai’s Democratic Progressive Party, despite its tense relations with the mainland, represents the anti-nuclear movement within Taiwan. However, views change when survival is at stake. It is not a bridge too far to suggest that a reluctant Biden administration and an aggressive Xi might lead Taiwan to see the utility of a nuclear arsenal.

      It’s also worth noting that the US has never invaded a nuclear-armed adversary—a fact not lost on the Taiwanese.

      Many China experts in the American foreign policy community will dismiss the warning that Taiwan might restart its covert nuclear weapons program. This is because too few American China experts understand the escalating pressure Taiwan faces from Xi’s China.

      The Biden administration has time to devise a policy that ensures Taiwan’s security while discouraging the pursuit of nuclear weapons. However, half measures, ambiguity or doing nothing is no longer an option. Taiwan will protect its freedom with or without America’s help.”

    84. jason says:

      Liz Cheney calls this the Biden/Trump calamity.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

      “The Trump/Biden calamity unfolding in Afghanistan began with the Trump administration negotiating with terrorists and pretending they were partners for peace, and is ending with American surrender as Biden abandons the country to our terrorist enemies.”

    85. Gordon Allen says:

      Xi has pledged publicly that Taiwan will be part of China during his rule. Unless he’s certain he has a long life ahead of him, he must think Biden is a perishable gift that must be utilized while available. That’s at most 3 years.
      Likewise Putin with the Baltic States and Eastern Ukraine. What methods are applied is anybody’s guess, but I’m pretty sure there are arguments to the effect “If not now when” going on as we speak.
      Anybody who voted for this guy should bow their head in shame for their own colossal ignorance.

    86. jason says:

      Liz Cheney is now officially part of the Biden propaganda machine.

      “Predictably, instead of accepting responsibility for the manner in which America is leaving Afghanistan, Biden is lashing out at Donald Trump. It’s smart politics because his base of supporters will accept Biden pinning the blame on Trump, and much of the media will echo that explanation.”

    87. jason says:

      Xi is not going to invade Taiwan, so take his “public pledge” with a grain of salt.

      China already considers “Taiwan to be part of China” so there is some leeway in that statement.

      The Chinese will use Biden’s weakness as a tool to put more political and economic pressure on Taiwan. But invading Taiwan still has too many downsides for China whether they think the US will intervene or not.

    88. jason says:

      “Extraordinary scenes of #Afghanistan’s military fleeing to #Iran with advanced equipment, likely supplied by US. Iran’s defense industries will want to get their hands on that equipment”

    89. jason says:

      LOL

      April 2021:

      “Harris says she had key role in Biden’s Afghanistan withdrawal decision

      The vice president confirmed she was the last person in the room before Biden made the decision to move forward with withdrawing U.S. troops”

    90. Gordon Allen says:

      Jason for a guy often right you’re stone cold blind about China. Is there something we don’t know about?

    91. Cash Cow TM says:

      Who is this #11 guy [XI] you all talk about in China?

    92. jason says:

      So Gordon, you think China will invade Taiwan?

      Yes or no?

    93. jason says:

      Jason for a guy often right you’re stone cold blind about China. ”

      What exactly I am I stone cold blind about China on?

      This should be good.

    94. jason says:

      Is there something we don’t know about?”

      Rumors that I am a paid HHR shill for China are just that, rumors.

      Remember I am on record here as hating General Tsao’s chicken, so case closed.

    95. Tgca says:

      As usual, news sources are providing misleading information on the capabilities of nuclear power plants.

      Nuclear power plants are designed to use enriched nuclear material in the form of nuclear assembles (a group of nuclear enrich rods) in a pool of water to generate excessive heat to run steam generators to produce electricity. Those same assemblies are not in a form that can be used in a nuclear bomb. To simplify it in the most basic general terms, nuclear power plants do not produce uranium or enrich uranium, they simply produce electricity from water heated by purchased enriched uranium rods which cause water steam and pressure to operate generators that turn turbines to produce electricity.

      There are only a few commercial manufacturers in the world that convert uranium to use in nuclear power plants so having non-enriched uranium is useless without the capability of that complex expensive conversion process requiring specially designed equipment and scientific knowledge. That is why it is so difficult to produce nuclear weapons or it would have been done long ago by many on the black market. The conversion costs $30 to $50 million for a batch of fuel assemblies that last about 18 months.

      Also, converting a nuclear power plant to a uranium enrichment facility is not easy since the equipment is not identical at all since conversion requires extremely high heat gaseous state equipment not found in nuclear power plants run on water and steam engines. It would be like trying to convert a plant that manufactures lawnmower motors to space rockets.

      It is not impossible but just highly unlikely to convert an existing nuclear power plant to a conversion facility, especially because of the additional safety measures required for scientists to produce such weaponry fuel. The contaminated parts of a nuclear power plant are sealed behind steel and concrete barriers not accessible by people.

    96. Tgca says:

      My point in 97 was not to say that plutonium by product from nuclear power plant can’t be used to weaponize but that it’s not an effective way to make weapons against a nuclear power house like China that has advanced nuclear weaponry.

      …and I doubt China would sit around and let Taiwan convert its power plant into weapon factories either. If they were to strike at Taiwan, I suspect those power plants would be targeted 1st on its list.

      It just doesn’t seem feasible strategy for Taiwan.

    97. Tgca says:

      To get me to 100…

      …the weaponry from plutonium from a nuclear power plant is in a sense less stable in creating weapons and doesn’t pack the same punch as weapons grade plutonium made by gubbermints that could decimate hundreds of thousands of folks.

    98. Tgca says:

      Uno Cero Cero bishes!

      Uno Cero Cero I thay!

    99. jason says:

      Tgca, you are ignoring Taiwan already has an advanced nuclear weapon technology capability and was already close to having weapons a couple times. It is likely they already have enriched plutonium, their main problem when their secret program in 1987 was discovered was the means to deliver a bomb rather than making one.

    100. Tgca says:

      Now…back to politics.

      I’m assuming the US MSM will continue to provide cover for Biden on this disastrous Afghan policy. However, my gut feeling is the world media may be less kind. I already saw once source from Great Britain chastising their politicians for just following the US lead, accusing the British gubbermint of being managed by Washington.

    101. jason says:

      And Taiwan doesn’t have to be competitive with China’s “advanced nuclear weapons”.

      All they need is the capability of delivering one or two bombs on Beijing and Shanghai and it is pretty much a stalemate.

    102. jason says:

      The clusterf-ck grows.

      “The Taliban are reportedly now shelling the Kabul airport, and it’s not clear whether all the Americans from the embassy or the ambassador got out yet.

      On ABC News’ “This Week With George Stephanopoulos,” Secretary of State Antony Blinken said Sunday that U.S. personnel are being relocated from the U.S. Embassy in Kabul to the airport “to ensure they can operate safely and securely,” but still maintain a core diplomatic presence there.

      But now, the U.S. Embassy has issued a security alert urging Americans to shelter in place and avoid the airport, which was reportedly taking fire. They’re telling people that they have to fill out an online form in order to get rescued.”

    103. Tgca says:

      101

      I’m not ignoring it, I’m stating three things yo add color to the discussion.

      1st, it’s not an easy process to convert nuclear power plants to weapon building facilities at all.

      2nd, plutonium as a by product from nuclear power plants is not as stable and powerful and requires more processing and huge safety requirements to extract it from highly radioactive spent fuel rods.

      3rd, with specifics to Taiwan and not in general as my posts in 97 were intended, I doubt China has not already thought this through and it most likely has a plan to ensure Taiwan does not use any such capability.

      I agree China wants Taiwan as a strategic resource so it’s not in its interest to bring destruction but make no mistake, if Taiwan were to try and use nuclear weaponry against China, I think China would obliterate them in a heartbeat.

      Taiwan cannot defeat China in a direct one -on-one military conflict. I think I the only way Taiwan thwarts an assault from China is by strong intervention from the West, specifically the US in a leadership role.

    104. jason says:

      urging Americans to shelter in place”

      Shelter in place in Kabul?

      If this develops into a hostage situation we are in real trouble.

    105. Tgca says:

      103

      The devastation from a much less stable bomb can kill maybe 10,000 which to China would be nothing compared considering its recent pandemic as an example that has resulted in much more loss of life.

      I don’t think a Taiwan could get that close to China or even try it. They know they would be annihilated and probably lose much of the worlds support if they did use nuclear weapons 1st.

      Like it or not, the world just does not see Taiwan as a world strategic interest as it does the US or one of the Europeans states like Britain or France were attacked.

      I think if worse came to worse, if Taiwan used nuclear weapons, there’d be a world effort to dismantle Taiwan’s defense and give Taiwan back to China then risk China wiping Taiwan off the map.

      Taiwan would become the sacrificial lamb would be my guess.

    106. jason says:

      if Taiwan were to try and use nuclear weaponry against China, I think China would obliterate them in a heartbeat. ”

      I disagree in that with assured mutual destruction neither side would use it.

      1st, it’s not an easy process to convert nuclear power plants to weapon building facilities at all.”

      Yes, but Taiwan has had years to either do this secretly or divert some of the imported plutonium they use.

      ” it most likely has a plan to ensure Taiwan does not use any such capability.”

      How do you ensure that. We have no way of ensuring North Korea does not use such capability.

      Taiwan cannot defeat China in a direct one -on-one military conflict.”

      It doesn’t have to. All it has to do is make a conflict too costly and have too many negative consequences for China to entertain it

    107. jason says:

      I don’t think a Taiwan could get that close to China or even try it. They know they would be annihilated and probably lose much of the worlds support if they did use nuclear weapons 1st.”

      Again, they don’t need to use it. Just the deterrent is enough.

      And a nuclear detonation in Beijing would kill hundreds of thousands, even if it was a crappy bomb like used in Hiroshima.

    108. lisab says:

      urging Americans to shelter in place”

      Shelter in place in Kabul?

      If this develops into a hostage situation we are in real trouble.
      ———————-

      and … my hair still needs a hot oil treatment

    109. lisab says:

      what about afghan’s lives matter?

    110. lisab says:

      only 41 more months to go …

      then we get harris

    111. jason says:

      The MSM swings into action….

      Said Reuters foreign correspondent Idrees Ali: ‘Secretary Blinken is correct. The airlift from Saigon did not happen until two years after a peace deal was signed. The evacuation from Kabul is happening with two weeks still left under Biden’s own timeline for an end to the mission.’”

    112. lisab says:

      top 10 political stories on a common ocial media site, afghanistan? what afghanistan?
      ——————————————

      AOC Responds to Tucker Carlson After He Mocks Her Capitol Attack Fears: “I couldn’t care less about what this talking inferiority complex has to say.”

      “Recall Ron DeSantis” petition hits 35,000 target as Delta devastates Florida

      Schumer calls for federal crackdown on fake vaccine cards

      St. Thomas GOP Chair Gisela Castro Medina Arrested In Florida On Sex Trafficking Charges

      Opinion: It’s liberals who are the tough-minded realists about policy

      Mississippi 8th Grader Dies With COVID Hours After Reeves Downplays Child Cases

      Republicans ignored Covid to protect Trump. Now they’re motivated by something worse. | Call it the “Make Covid Great Again” agenda.

      North Carolina is child bride destination; bill could end it

      High-Profile Republican Donor, Newly Selected College GOP Chapter Leader Arrested for Alleged Sex Trafficking of Minors: Authorities

    113. lisab says:

      #10 minnesota teacher’s hair still untreated, trump to blame

    114. lisab says:

      actually: Mayor: Minneapolis PD will no longer conduct ‘pretextual’ traffic stops for low-level offenses

    115. Gordon Allen says:

      When people build,at some considerable cost,and practice it regularly,an amphibious capability its foolish to think they won’t use it.
      What other use is there? Amphibious assaults on California beaches?
      It’s nonsense about not wanting to damage an asset to conquer it. Germany suffered the equivalent of 100 Hirishima bombs,not to mention invasions by millions( 10) of men,and by 1951 West Germanys GDP was higher than Greater Germany in 1939.
      I think other options such as blockade would be considered,but all else failing yes an invasion is very possible as long as the US has a Biden in the WH.
      The outgoing Commander of US Pacific forces said last year China WOULD invade Taiwan in 6 years everything else the same.
      BTW I take it you do NOT see China as a mortal enemy? Hope you’re right

    116. lisab says:

      juan williams says, “biden messed up badly, the worst move by any american president since the bay of pigs”

      just kidding,

      he says it is totally not biden’s fault, and chris wallace and friends largely agree

    117. jason says:

      So Gordon, you think China will invade Taiwan?

      Yes or no?

      It was a yes or no answer.

      The fact you have to pack your answer with a bunch or drivel and garbage and third party opinions to avoid the yes or no answer speaks volumes.

    118. jason says:

      BTW I take it you do NOT see China as a mortal enemy? Hope you’re right”

      Mortal enemy? No.

      Geopolitical adversary? Yes.

    119. lisab says:

      fox news has moved on to how

      400 children have died from covid

      so we must close down again

    120. lisab says:

      en and Jerry’s recently announced that it will not renew its agreement with its Israeli licensee when it expires in 2022, stating that it is “inconsistent” with the brand’s values “to be sold in the Occupied Palestinian Territory (OPT).” The decision, which has created tension between the brand’s independent board and its British parent company, Unilever, was the culmination of years of pressure from Palestine advocates and, more recently, the Movement for Black Lives, which views the fight for Palestinian rights as integral to the struggle for Black freedom.

      Much has been written about Israel’s relentless offensive against the ice cream company. But less has been said about the consequences for Americans’ right to protest if our constitutional right to boycott is gutted per Israel’s requests. As a Palestinian and lawyer supporting those who face a cruel backlash for supporting Palestinian rights, I can tell you that these efforts are only the tip of a larger assault on all of our rights to speak out for justice.

    121. jason says:

      When people build,at some considerable cost,and practice it regularly,an amphibious capability its foolish to think they won’t use it.”

      Zzzzzzzzz………

      If every country used every military capability they developed we would be in permanent world wide war.

      An amphibious assault on Taiwan would be suicidal considering Taiwan’s air power and anti-ship missile defense and would probably only be used as the last phase of a war rather than the initial one.

      A military campaign against Taiwan would mostly likely involve a naval and air blockade and a war of attrition to wear down Taiwan’s capabilities without the option of resupply. The “invasion” would only happen after a surrender or a complete collapse of Taiwan’s defensive capabilities, not before.

      In any event, I think a concerted military on Taiwan is extremely unlikely because the cost benefit doesn’t add up.

    122. Phil says:

      I agree the cost of a China invasion of Taiwan would be a heavy price….but man, with Biden in the WH it must be tempting. What a window of opportunity. If there was any chance the US would stand down it’s certainly now with that weeklong in the WH. With Trump they just couldn’t be sure.

    123. jason says:

      Breaking, the Taliban are pulling out of Kabul after this warning by Nancy Pelosi:

      “The Taliban must know that the world is watching its actions. We are deeply concerned about reports regarding the Taliban’s brutal treatment of all Afghans, especially women and girls.

      “The U.S., the international community and the Afghan government must do everything we can to protect women and girls from inhumane treatment by the Taliban.”

    124. jason says:

      Rumor is so many Taliban crapped their pants in fear after this warning that there is a shortage of toilet paper in Kabul.

    125. Dylan says:

      125-we are so pathetic for allowing the most mediocre amongst us to “lead” China should forget about Taiwan—they can march right into the USA via Seattle, San Fran Portland and LA—-who would stop them?

    126. lisab says:

      is this a bad time to discuss

      defunding the police?

    127. Tgca says:

      I do not see China being deterred or frightened of Taiwan claiming it has nukes knowing they could most likely blow out any missile Taiwan launched out of the sky with their newly successful missile defense system, which I think only the US and Russia have capability to do as well. The closest large cities to Taiwan are Hong Kong and Shanghai, and I do not see Taiwan destroying Hong Kong with a WMD.

      I bet China would call Taiwan’s bluff because they know they have more at stake from backing down from a tiny island threatening it with force.

      I see China more worried about criticism of its world standing and economics then fear of Taiwan using weapons.

      Sorry! I just do not see the world supporting Taiwan if it went up against China and threatened it with nuclear weapons. In fact, I see more chance the world would then isolate Taiwan and demand it disarm and let inspectors in to monitor them then to let Taiwan start a war in Asia.

      I do not think Taiwan has any way to win a direct conflict without the US, Britain, Germany, or France coming directly to their defense and my gut feeling is the current leaders in these countries would not go the mile for Taiwan.

    128. lisab says:

      82nd airborne now in kabul

    129. jason says:

      This is the tragedy of it…

      “All Joe Biden had to do was nothing. Had Joe Biden done nothing, Afghanistan would not have fallen to the Taliban today. Had he just let the status quo continue, the status quo would have continued. Afghanistan would have plodded along and we would have kept the Taliban from power with a small force of American military personnel among whose ranks there had not been a single fatality since March 2020—17 months without a death. Keep that in mind as you listen to and watch people try to analyze away the horror that has befallen the Afghan people. The idea being retailed by the increasingly defeatist left and the increasingly isolationist right is that what has happened was inevitable. It was the opposite of inevitable. It wouldn’t have happened if Biden hadn’t acted.”

    130. lisab says:

      re china

      actually, i think the worst possibility is that xi will THINK the usa will not intervene in taiwan, because of biden and afghanistan

      and he therefore decides to attack taiwan

      and biden decides to intervene

    131. lisab says:

      wow … even dana perino is criticizing biden

      when the dems have lost dana perino, things are truly bad

      (naturally she still took some shots at trump, but for her, it was a shocking rebuke of biden)

    132. Tgca says:

      With China’s advance into Asia as the natural leader of that region, both with its economic and military clout, it is inevitable that Taiwan will fall to China’s desire or risk being made an example of sooner or later.

      The question is not what will Taiwan do but what will China do?

      China can keep Taiwan on a long leash for another 20 years but at this pace, sooner or later Taiwan will fall to China if China so desires reunification.

      Let’s not kid ourselves, China permits Taiwan this independent state luxury but I’m not sure they will do so in the distant future.

    133. jason says:

      knowing they could most likely blow out any missile Taiwan launched out of the sky with their newly successful missile defense system,”

      Zzzzzzzz…. nobody can “know” that… China is a huge country with many large cities, impossible to protect all of it.

      A Taiwan with nuclear weapons would be a powerful deterrent to China.

      Not only to cities, but tactical nuclear weapons would also be a huge threat to any assembled invasion force at sea.

    134. jason says:

      It is possible that reunification will come as a result of some political settlement, but it is not imminent. Maybe in 20 years.

      I doubt it will come as a result of an invasion.

    135. jason says:

      Let’s not kid ourselves, China permits Taiwan this independent state luxury but I’m not sure they will do so in the distant future.”

      I disagree.

      China does not “permit” anything. It is forced to accept the situation because it has no alternative.

      It knows it cannot conquer Taiwan militarily without a huge cost that it is not willing to take.

      So it will continue to try by other means, which may or not be successful.

    136. Tgca says:

      Supposedly a pic from Kabul.

      This is what is expected to come so Pelosi’s crocodile tears over women rights mean nothing.

      She should thank Joe Biden for that.

      Up next, expect Taliban to demand reparations or financial aid from the world to deter it from executing folks and causing a humanitarian crisis.

      Expect radical lefty’s in Congress to propose aid to the Taliban because the US is responsible for Afghanistan’s plight.

      Just like in the 90s when aid built the Taliban a stadium and they simply used it for executions.

      https://twitter.com/LNajafizada/status/1426852794175270915/photo/1

    137. jason says:

      The Chinese have an ancient culture. They are not impulsive people.

      They can wait for 20 or even 50 years for Taiwan to fall.

    138. Wes says:

      Actually, Lisa, it’s no shock Dana Perino would criticize Biden over the fall of Afghanistan. She’s a Bush girl through and through. Afghanistan was actually something GWB handled relatively well, so for Kabul to fall to the Taliban means Biden has undermined any good the US accomplished there.

    139. Tgca says:

      The nukes that Taiwan can assemble are not high grade weapons. They lack the materials and enriching facilities.

      I think if China wants to be the world leader going forward, clearly their goal, as the US influence is waning unfortunately, it’s going to have to deal with Taiwan sooner or later because it can’t let a tiny nation island thwart its economic and military conquest.

      My gut is Taiwan will back down or be isolated by the rest of the world if China SERIOUSLY decides its time to reunify.

      Today’s world leaders will not risk a world war over Taiwan. It would be an economic disaster that would make the pandemic economics feel like a boom.

    140. lisab says:

      it’s no shock Dana Perino would criticize Biden over the fall of Afghanistan.
      ———————————-

      but she loved biden over trump

    141. lisab says:

      wait wait wait …

      have the taliban soldiers been vaccinated?

      if not … biden and the dems will surely intervene

    142. Wes says:

      That doesn’t matter on a policy Bush was behind, Lisa. Perino may hate Trump, but when Biden undermines a GWB-era effort, she’s not going to hold back on attacking him.

    143. jason says:

      My gut is Taiwan will back down or be isolated by the rest of the world if China SERIOUSLY decides its time to reunify.”

      My gut feeling that is a long way from happening.

    144. Wes says:

      I agree with Jason. Taiwan and Mainland China won’t reunify any time soon. The status quo works at least for now, so I wouldn’t expect a quick reunification.

    145. lisab says:

      well biden lucked out

      an earthquake in haiti

      so i guess we know what the media will be focused on

    146. lisab says:

      facebook pushing for amnesty now for all illegal immigrants

    147. jason says:

      It’s nonsense about not wanting to damage an asset to conquer it. Germany suffered the equivalent of 100 Hirishima bombs,not to mention invasions by millions( 10) of men,and by 1951 West Germanys GDP was higher than Greater Germany in 1939.”

      Are you serious?

      West Germany was rebuilt at a huge cost to the “winners”, and was included in the Marshall Plan starting in 1949.

      That is why East Germany fell so far behind, it did not benefit from the investment the West poured into West Germany. The reactivation of the West German economy was seen as key to the recovery of all of Europe. The mark was created and propped up and Germany was allowed to join NATO in 1955 with huge economic benefits

      Should China destroy Taiwan physically and economically it would take trillions to rebuild it. And under a Communist system there would be little chance Taiwan would be anything but a burden to China for decades.

      China wants Taiwan. But it wants it intact.

      But time will tell. If China invades Taiwan any time soon I will admit I am wrong.

    148. lisab says:

      the invasion plan is for 2027 i believe

    149. jason says:

      I am sure Taiwan will appreciate knowing that in advance.

    150. jason says:

      This did not age well:

      Secretary of State Blinken (July 7th):

      “We are not withdrawing, we are staying, the embassy is staying, our programs are staying … If there is a significant deterioration in security … I don’t think it’s going to be something that happens from a Friday to a Monday.”

    151. jason says:

      He is right.

      It happened from Friday to Sunday.

    152. Tgca says:

      146. Wes

      Nobody is debating reunifying in the near future, as that is not likely and not in China’s short-term priorities.

      The debate was could Taiwan deter China with a threat of nuclear offense if China was serious about reunification. I believe the answer to that is no.

      The world will not unite around Taiwan threatening to start a war using WMD over a regional issue. If Taiwan seriously did that, I would bet the world would turn against Taiwan in a minute and isolate it.

      It’s similar to Israel. Everyone knows it has nuclear capability but Israel never uses it as a serious threat because then they would lose support.

      The world does not want to go to war over a small country. They’d rather sacrifice it in a regional conflict first in most cases, at least in this current day and age.

    153. Tgca says:

      149

      I agree China does not want to destroy Taiwan.

      But nor does China want to be bullied with idle threats that amount to nothing so if Taiwan were to take offense using low impact WMD, China would then be forced to retaliate strong a and deadly, and I suspect even a significant portion of the Taiwanese would relent at that point to the inevitable.

      I don’t see that happening in reality. I do see Taiwan losing out to China within the next generation if China stays on the path of becoming the world leader or tied with the US in that matter and divvying up the world in regions since at that point, economically, Taiwan could be isolated and bankrupted.

    154. Tgca says:

      I think the biggest threat to China now is:

      Large aging unproductive population
      Maintaining currency stabilization
      Not being economically pigeonholed by the west and letting other countries reap benefits of that.

      …and of course, not causing anymore devastating pandemics.

    155. jason says:

      Nobody said Taiwan should attack China with pre-emptively nuclear weapons, that is a straw argument.

      What I said is Taiwan with nuclear weapons would be a strong deterrent to China military aggression.

      Taiwan losing out to China as you put it in a generation is entirely possible, but I still doubt China will do so with a military invasion.

    156. lisab says:

      the taliban is saying they are reinstating islamic law …

      i haven’t felt this bad since I accidentally watched the dennis deyoung concert on vh1

    157. jason says:

      The debate was could Taiwan deter China with a threat of nuclear offense if China was serious about reunification.”

      That was not the debate, nobody said anything about nuclear offense.

      The debate was whether it was in China’s interest to attack Taiwan militarily and whether Taiwan having nuclear weapons for defense would be a deterrent.

      In my view the answers are no and yes.

    158. Wes says:

      So the Taliban are reinstating Islamic law.

      Where are the #MeToo people?

    159. lisab says:

      lisab says:
      August 15, 2021 at 4:33 pm
      the invasion plan is for 2027 i believe

      jason says:
      August 15, 2021 at 4:35 pm
      I am sure Taiwan will appreciate knowing that in advance.
      ————————

      i think that was milley’s idea

    160. lisab says:

      so we have a functional islamic terror state

      and

      completely open borders

      with feckless leaders who want to defund the police

      what could possibly go wrong?

    161. lisab says:

      i never thought i’d look back and think

      remember the good old days if gw?

    162. Wes says:

      It’s truly sad when Biden is–though I hate to say this–a WORSE President than GWB.

    163. lisab says:

      it took gw 4 years to really screw up

      this nimrod has done it in 7 months!

    164. jason says:

      It’s similar to Israel. Everyone knows it has nuclear capability but Israel never uses it as a serious threat because then they would lose support.”

      There is nothing “non serious” about Israel’s nuclear capability.

      You can bet Israel’s nuclear weapons are a serious deterrent to Iran.

      It is pretty clear that there are four cases in which Israel would use nuclear weapons and every one of their enemies knows it.

      The doctrine supposedly is:

      – A successful military penetration into populated areas within Israel’s post-1949 (pre-1967) borders.
      -The destruction of the Israeli Air Force.
      -The exposure of Israeli cities to massive and devastating air attacks or to possible chemical or biological attacks.
      -The use of nuclear weapons against Israeli territory.

    165. jason says:

      Where are the #MeToo people?”

      Too busy giving Cuomo a pass?

    166. jason says:

      It’s truly sad when Biden is–though I hate to say this–a WORSE President than GWB.”

      Wow, Biden must be really bad.

    167. Phil says:

      The rapid fall of Afghanistan over the last few days is squarely on Trump.

    168. jason says:

      BREAKING: US official tells @VOANews Hamid Karzai Int’l Airport in #Kabul still taking fire, under threat

      US troops “trying to take care of it”

    169. Wes says:

      While Trump did want the US to leave Afghanistan, Phil, he made a great deal about showing American strength. Had Trump been in office during this, he would have made an effort to keep the situation from becoming a disaster.

      The Left may try to blame it on Trump, but when even Liz Cheney is attacking Biden (though admittedly making the obligatory shot against Trump), you know that’s not working.

    170. jason says:

      The collapse was supposed to take at least weeks.

      This is going to be an unmitigated disaster.

    171. Wes says:

      You must not have been paying attention for the past seven months, Jason. I’ve routinely said Biden is a disaster of a President. He’s just becoming an even worse disaster now.

    172. jason says:

      Trump would not have let this happen like this.

      At worst he would have ensured an orderly withdrawal and evacuation of those most likely to be harmed by the Taliban.

      At best he would have declared the Taliban in violation of the agreements he had pursued with them and kept a residual force strong enough to keep the regime propped up for the foreseeable future.

    173. Gordon Allen says:

      Taiwan has no operational nuclear capability. It could theoretically produce such a capability,but so could Japan,South Korea,and Germany among others.
      They haven’t done so because of their feeling secure under our( now aged) nuclear umbrella. Do they still feel secure.??

    174. Phil says:

      I was just being facetious, guys. Simply parroting what’s coming from the clown car Never Trumpers.

      Trump would have gotten us out, but I’m confident it would have been in a much more orderly manner, and certainly wouldn’t be the clusterf*ck it is today. This is truly an embarrassment.

    175. jason says:

      He’s just becoming an even worse disaster now.”

      Not sure that is possible, but I give him credit for giving it a shot, he obviously relishes a challenge.

    176. Wes says:

      I agree, Jason. For all his faults, Trump wanted to project an aura of American strength. Letting the Taliban overrun Afghanistan with Kabul becoming a modern-day Saigon is something we would never have seen if Trump were still in office.

    177. Bitterlaw says:

      China is not going to invade Taiwan. It is a like a bully who scares the school yard. Why let Taiwan, a nation with everything to lose, inflict massive casualties on it and prove it is not invincible?

    178. Wes says:

      You know, since we’re basically reliving the 1970s, I wonder if disco and polyester are going to make a comeback.

    179. Bitterlaw says:

      Israelis mean it when they say, “Never again.” They will absolutely use nuclear weapons in a fight to the death.

    180. Gordon Allen says:

      gee Bitterlaw,now that you’ve pronounced that,we and Taiwan can sleep peacefully at night. There I,and others,were worried.
      Glad all is ” normal”

    181. Bitterlaw says:

      Wes- If the 70s are back, does that mean we will hear about the coming ice age, soccer will be the biggest professionL sport in the US, and dominance of the US by the metric system?

    182. Bitterlaw says:

      Gordon – Come out from behind the gates. China will not attack because Taiwan is prepared to fight back with a massive military response. China making threats and Taiwan saying GFY is normal.

    183. lisab says:

      the difference being that china has theoretical air superiority over taiwan now

      that was not true even 4 years ago

      note, it is only theoretical since china’s new fifth generation jet fighters are unproven. but on paper, their airforce should be the victor

      (taiwan still uses the f5)

    184. jason says:

      Bitter, I already exposed Gordon as a fraud on this.

      I asked him for a yes or no answer on whether China will invade Taiwan.

      What I got was a load of drivel and garbage.

    185. jason says:

      (taiwan still uses the f5)’

      Being phased out completely in the next 3 years. Besides Taiwan has other planes.

      “The F-5E/F series was downgraded to be the air force’s second line of fighters after the introduction of 150 F-16s, 60 Mirage 2000-5s and 130 F-CK-1s in the 1990s, and the jets have been mostly withdrawn from service as squadrons converted to the newer aircraft.”

      https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3108283/taiwan-phase-out-ageing-f-5-fighter-jets-after-pilots-fatal

    186. jason says:

      Also Taiwan is building its own subs. Once they are operational an amphibious invasion will be even more difficult. These subs will be a huge technological improvement over Taiwan’s current subs, which although refurbished, are basically 1980’s technology.

      “Taiwan’ submarine project making progress following U.S. greenlight for key equipment supply
      Taiwan’s indigenous submarine (IDS) project is progressing. The prototype ship is scheduled to be launched in 2024, and will be delivered to ROC Navy in 2025. The programme received a boost following the recent U.S. approval to transfer a number of key technologies including periscopes.

      On January 29, 2021, Taiwanese media, Liberty Times Net quoted an anonymous government official saying that because of worsening Taiwan-China relations, top officials are looking at speeding up the construction schedule of the Indigenous Defense Submarine (IDS). The plan would be to finish the construction as early as possible all while keeping high construction quality standards.”

    187. lisab says:

      even an f16 is no match for a fifth gen fighter

    188. Bitterlaw says:

      Careful, Jason. Lisab is a Google Master. She is an expert on defense strategy and fighter technology.

    189. jason says:

      Even the Atlantic is throwing Biden under the bus?

      “There’s plenty of blame to go around for the 20-year debacle in Afghanistan—enough to fill a library of books. Perhaps the effort to rebuild the country was doomed from the start. But our abandonment of the Afghans who helped us, counted on us, staked their lives on us, is a final, gratuitous shame that we could have avoided. The Biden administration failed to heed the warnings on Afghanistan, failed to act with urgency—and its failure has left tens of thousands of Afghans to a terrible fate. This betrayal will live in infamy. The burden of shame falls on President Joe Biden.

    190. Bitterlaw says:

      Irony Meter explodes as Biden ordered 6,000 US troops to facilitate an evacuation that would not have been necessary if he had kept a far smaller group of pilots, support personnel and aircraft in place to destroy the advancing Taliban forces and provide air support to the Afghan army.

    191. lisab says:

      She is an expert on defense strategy and fighter technology.
      ———–

      you don’t have to be an expert to know the f16 was designed in the early 1970s

    192. jason says:

      Taiwan would have tactical superiority over any Chinese fighters actually attacking Taiwan because they can’t use long range fuel tanks on combat missions and Taiwan has formidable air defenses. They could refuel in the air but the tankers are extremely vulnerable.

      The problem with Taiwan’s air force is not the theoretical superiority of the Chinese planes, it is the fact their airfields are vulnerable to a massive Chinese missile attack. Their planes could be destroyed before they can even take off or if the airfields are damaged enough they can’t operate.

      That is why some military experts are not crazy about Taiwan spending billions on fighters and instead should invest in drones and other technologies.

      Reportedly Taiwan does have underground installations for at least 280 aircraft.

    193. jason says:

      “President Biden is expected to address the nation in the next few days about the crisis in Afghanistan, an administration official says”

      Bitter, make sure you give us a report.

      I won’t be able to stomach it.

    194. lisab says:

      they don’t need extra fuel tanks

      taiwan is only 100 miles from the mainland

      and you mentioned the whole point of a fifth generation fighter is that they can pelt taiwan’s fighters with missiles while the f16’s cannot detect the stealth fighters

    195. jason says:

      taiwan is only 100 miles from the mainland”

      The ocean part is 100 miles coast to coast at its narrowest. But you have to get to the coast, you need to stay operational over Taiwan (245 miles long and 90 miles wide) and you have to get back with something to spare. Plus you can’t fly a straight line for obvious reasons.

      So yes, you would need extra fuel tanks but you can’t use them in combat missions.

    196. Country Dick Montana says:

      Jason-I have always wondered about your interest and knowledge in China. It seems to be more than just a political hobby. Do you have a professional association with that part of the world, either through trade or government, or is it just something in which you have a keen interest?

    197. jason says:

      and you mentioned the whole point of a fifth generation fighter is that they can pelt taiwan’s fighters with missiles while the f16’s cannot detect the stealth fighters”

      That is a big exaggeration of their capabilities.

      It is really not that “stealthy” and its performance is pretty untested.

      “The platform is the largest low-observability fighter currently in production, the RUSI report noted. “The downside is a heavier, less agile aircraft which will be more expensive to build and operate. It also cannot compete with the extreme performance or agility of the F-22” Raptor built by Lockheed Martin.

      It also features forward canards which are suboptimal from a stealth perspective, and the planes have been powered by Russian AL-31 series engines without low-observability serrated nozzles. The engines leave the aircraft “somewhat underpowered” and unable to supercruise, and also increase their radar cross section, it noted.”

    198. jason says:

      CDM, I have no professional connection with China.

      I do have a professional interest in trade issues in general, however, as my work involves long range business plans in various countries.

    199. lisab says:

      the chinese 4th generation fighters, which were meant to engage in dogfights might have fuel problems,

      but the fifth generation just fly out, shoot their missiles and go home. i don’t think they even have guns

      they have no need to use extra fuel, they are stealth planes, so they just fly within missile range, fire, and run home

    200. Country Dick Montana says:

      Fair enough Jason.

    201. lisab says:

      to give an analogy, much was made in the usa press when an f16 outfought an f35 in a dogfight some years ago

      and while it was embarrassing to the air force, the correctly pointed out no lightning pilot in his right mind would dogfight an f16

      they would just shoot missiles from beyond the f16’s ability to detect the stealth fighter

    202. Bitterlaw says:

      How many countries want llamas?

    203. Bitterlaw says:

      Well, Maverick lost a dogfight in an F-18 to Viper in an F-5. He also would have lost to Jester in an F-5 but disregarded the hard deck.

    204. Country Dick Montana says:

      I believe that Maverick and Goose flew an F-14.

    205. Pitchaboy says:

      What Mr. Slo Jo has done in Afghanistan is impeachment material.

    206. lisab says:

      yes, top gun was about f14s

      but — in theory— the days of dogfights is over

      of course they thought that with the f4 phantom too

      it also was not equipped with guns initially… until they started losing pilots

      the f35 and co are highly aware highly stealthy missile transporters

      had top gun been about f35 the end scene would have been

      maverick: make that five repeat five bogeys not two … missiles away … splash 5 migs… permission to buzz the tower sir

      but it would nit have made for an exciting ending

    207. jason says:

      they have no need to use extra fuel, they are stealth planes, so they just fly within missile range, fire, and run home”

      Their stealth capability is overrated. It is “low observability” but it probably won’t be able to evade Taiwan’s advanced air defense systems.

      “Even though it’s believed to be a 5th generation fighter (the J-20) it is probably at best a 3.5 generation aircraft. It’s got a third-generation engine as we have in the Sukhoi,” Air Marshal R Nambiar (retd), who flight-tested the Rafale fighter jets for India, told BusinessToday.”

      The Global Times says the Chinese 5th gen is actually 4th gen.

    208. Bitterlaw says:

      I was wrong. It was F-14s and not F-18s

    209. jason says:

      July 8, 2020

      “China has indeed long depicted the J-20 as a competitor to America’s fifth-generation jets, the F-22 and F-35. But a new report casts doubt on those claims. Specifically, the Hong Kong–based South China Morning Post (SCMP) reported that “China rushed its first advanced stealth fighter jet into service ahead of schedule last year, using stopgap engines, in the face of rising security challenges in the region.” According to SCMP, that “means its capabilities will be severely limited, affecting its manoeuvrability and fuel efficiency as well as its stealthiness at supersonic speeds.”

    210. Tgca says:

      Ok. Let’s end this silly Taiwan debate on deterrence.

      Taiwan would get crushed immediately in a conflict with China with its tiny army and low grade nuclear weapons from nuclear power plant by-product plutonium which is highly unstable and less likely to result in large explosive damage like traditional nuclear weapons. The plutonium from this process is not the same as from an enriched process which Taiwan lacks the capability. China knows this so it’s not deterred by such threats.

      It is estimated dropping a bomb on a city with this kind of by-product plutonium would cause 10,000 to 20,000 deaths where a nuclear bomb from the Chinese WMD would cause hundreds of thousands, if not more deaths.

      China has experienced dozens of natural disasters in the last 150 years that exceed this amount of loss, greatly in many cases by 10 to 20 fold so I doubt it would be worried about such a loss in a country of 1.4 billion which would be about similar in percent to what the US lost in 9/11 on the lower to mid-range size.

      Taiwan threatening China is like Cuba threatening the US. It’s just not comparable or of concern to China. It’s laughable.

      In addition, like I said, once Taiwan threatens to use such weapons as a deterrence, I think the world turns against Taiwan and it finds itself isolated and the world sacrifices Taiwan to keep peace in Asia because sooner or later everyone knows Taiwan will be under China’s control due to China’s emerging dominance in Asia and elsewhere in the world, unless China has great misfortune in its future.

      The probability of a conflict of this nature with China is probably less than 1% because Taiwan knows it will ultimately lose any battle with massive casualties to its small population.

      Countries don’t fight to death in this day and age, they surrendered when it’s clear they cannot win rather than risk it’s population being annihilated.

      China losing 20,000 people would be nothing to them because they would then show an overwhelming force of strength that would put the fear into Asia for decades to come just like the US did after 9/11 where certain countries decided to play “nicer” with the US after Iraq and Afghanistan.

      Either way, China has no interest in attacking Taiwan unless seriously provoked.

      End of debate!

      Taiwan loses anyway you roll the dice, as I imagine the US and its allies would not go to war in this day and age over an island that is off the coast of China that all pretty much agree is in China’s historical domain…at least we would not go to war anymore than the Chinese would go to war with the US to protect Cuba.

    211. Bitterlaw says:

      Maybe lisab should contact the actual instructors and pilots who still train for dogfights.

    212. Tgca says:

      208

      Top Gun is an epic gay movie!

      I even have the movie in my 500+ movie collection and I don’t care for Tom Cruise, especially his early movies from the 80s and 90s.

      But I risk losing my gay card if I don’t subscribe to at least some gay culture.

    213. jason says:

      This article is less optimistic for Taiwan.

      But Taiwan will have its new fighter, much better than the F-16, by 2024.

      https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/taiwan-vs-chinas-j-20-stealth-fighter-who-wins-91411

    214. jason says:

      Half of what Tgca posted in #212 is made up of drivel and garbage.

      The other half is lies.

      End of debate.

    215. Bitterlaw says:

      Israel would fight to the death because its Jewish population knows Israel’s enemies have pledged to annihilate them.

    216. jason says:

      A more reasonable rationale:

      “Taiwan is already a latent nuclear power. The move to nuclear weapons would not take long given its current materials and technical capacity.

      Taiwan already has two operational nuclear power plants on opposite ends of the island that could produce plutonium. It could use a ‘Japan option’ of enriching its radioactive materials for weaponisation in a short timeframe.

      Would a nuclear-armed Taiwan deter the PRC from an invasion? The use of nuclear weapons by a nuclear-armed Taiwan would certainly make an already difficult invasion for Xi and the PLA more costly. History suggests that once Taiwan has nuclear weapons, the PRC will become much less aggressive towards it—making the development of nuclear weapons more attractive.”

    217. Tgca says:

      The US has technology that bomb underground to oblivion down to a significant level, depending on the bombs used. That is why underground bunkers are no longer safe bet for our enemies.

      I am not sure if the Chinese have stolen…ummm…I mean developed such similar technology but it would not surprise me if they did so it’s not likely hiding planes underground is feasible anymore with advanced warring powers.

      I doubt it would be feasible to hide planes 1,000 feet underground since that is the estimated max a detonated bomb could cause damage due to the resulting shock wave penetration which is greatly increased underground than above ground.

    218. jasonj says:

      If I was a betting man, I would bet Taiwan already has a stock of enriched plutonium.

    219. Tgca says:

      216

      Clearly Jadon knows little about nuclear power plants and it’s by-products. I have read extensively on these plants over the years and can explain the entire process in layman’s terms of how nuclear assemblies are managed to work in a plant from enriched fuels through the various equipment stages and how such assemblies are retired – or spent – and stored for safe conditions over time.

      I’ve actually visited two major US nuclear power plants, after FBI background checks, as part of my work over the years and toured their equipment and discussed in detail with nuclear engineers the safety mechanism for their waste disposal which was a big issue in work I’ve done including risk of theft and use for terrorist means. I’ve come as close to the equipment as a human can safely dressed in safety gear and viewed footage on removal of spent fuel as well as storage vessels and can explain how the spent fuel us pa Kate’s, stored, and sealed, stored, and protected.

      Have you ever done anything remotely similar Jadon?

    220. Tgca says:

      221

      Spent fuel packed not Kate

      GFY Siri!

    221. Tgca says:

      220

      I doubt it.

      It takes special facilities to enrich plutonium to the level of having a highly effective WMD. You don’t enrich plutonium at a nuclear power plant since it lacks the equipment and required safety space to do it because the spent fuel rods from which the plutonium is extracted is highly radioactive.

      It’s not like in the movies where you put on a hazmat suit and then just work with gloves through a glass window in a lab.

      I will give you an example. There are only two companies in the world that develop a special equipment to go in and repair a segment of a nuclear reactor parts. They rent that equipment out for use at millions per month to nuclear power plants and I believe there are less than five of those equipment in the world. Their use is monitored too.

    222. Tgca says:

      217

      I agree on Israel fighting to the death, at least most there I think. It is probably the exception, as I believe would be parts of the US and Russia too.

    223. Tgca says:

      I will not participate in the discussion on jets since I admit I know almost nothing about various military jets other than what I recall from watching the gay epic movie Top Gun.

      However, I know a good deal about various components of nuclear power plants and their waste, storage facilities and required safety protocols and basic rules of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission such as dismantling processes to explain basics in layman’s terms.

    224. jason says:

      Have you ever done anything remotely similar Jadon?”

      I have forgotten more about nuclear energy than you will ever learn.

      Your post about only 10k people dying of a nuclear weapon dropped on Beijing is so stupid it does not warrant further comment.

    225. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @Joelmpetlin
      Speaker Pelosi is warning a terrorist organization that *the world is watching*

      Ooooooh.

      What’s next, demanding that the Taliban’s Twitter account be suspended?

      That’ll really teach ’em a lesson.

    226. lisab says:

      Their stealth capability is overrated. It is “low observability” but it probably won’t be able to evade Taiwan’s advanced air defense systems.
      ——————————-

      that is why i said theoretical advantage in #185

      they have not proven that their planes are fifth generation yet

    227. Tgca says:

      226

      It is very doubtful that Taiwan could get a nuclear bomb to Beijing which is about 1,200 miles away, the distance from NYC to Miami without being blown out of the sky 1st so killing hundreds of thousands is not feasible in that case.

      Again, I have been talking about a low grade nuclear device developed from nuclear power plant by-product plutonium and not high grade weaponry enriched plutonium done in only select facilities throughout the world.

      The devil is in the details.

      I am sure it would be news to the nuclear powerplants throughout the world that they have such danger lurking in their plants without the required safety protocols in place to safeguard it.

      As part of my job, I’ve actually had these discussions of weaponizing nuclear power plant spent nuclear fuel with nuclear engineers over the years and their safety protocols and I trust their expertise over yours to determine such risks and threats. I’ve actually had discussions with them on security and safety protocols. So unless you are a qualified nuclear engineer working in a nuclear power plant adhering to safety protocols required by the NRC, I do not think you qualify to dispute the working knowledge of equivalently trained nuclear engineers.

    228. lisab says:

      Maybe lisab should contact the actual instructors and pilots who still train for dogfights.
      ——————————————-

      no need … they tell us what they are doing

      remember the f15, f16 and f18 are still very much part of our air force … all of them capable dog fighters

      but they also tell us about the f35 and what it is for … and it is not for dog fighting

      and no one seems to know what to do with the f22

    229. jason says:

      Like I said, what you are saying about “low grade nuclear devices” and “10k deaths from a nuclear bomb” are really to asinine to continue to discuss.

      You have no idea what you are talking about and it just makes you look stupid.

      Let’s move on to something you are an expert on.

      No not nutrition, gayness or nuclear power.

    230. jason says:

      Asked if a Taliban takeover of Afghanistan is now inevitable, Biden said it isn’t because “the Afghan troops have 300,000 well-equipped, as well-equipped as any army in the world, and an air force, against something like 75,000 Taliban.”

      “It is not inevitable,” he repeated.

    231. lisab says:

      Again, I have been talking about a low grade nuclear device developed from nuclear power plant by-product plutonium and not high grade weaponry enriched plutonium done in only select facilities throughout the world.
      ——————————-

      if they had a small nuclear device, why not drop it on the 2 million chinese troops crossing over from china?

      no political backlash, because it would be purely defensive, and very easy to deliver, just off their own coast?

    232. lisab says:

      think how many ships the usa needed to supply dday

      one small bomb can sink a lot of ships

    233. lisab says:

      btw, i had a teacher who was from taiwan, he told me his parents, who were still alive at the time i knew him, kept two suitcases packed, just in case the chinese army came

    234. Tgca says:

      231

      Typical Jadon response.

      When he can’t discuss the gory details he wants to move on. You read headlines. I read the fine print.

      You tried to opine on nuclear power plants when it’s clear you have no understanding of those facilities, their design, functionality, capabilities, fuels, storage, safety and security protocols when I have worked with them on these and actually been inside the inner workings and had details discussions over the years with nuclear engineering experts.

      What is your experience in that industry?

      You forgot your

      “Hey Ma…we got another one” line when you realize you’re out of your element.

      Dwell on that as I go off to watch a movie.

      …and really think about your retarded scenario of Taiwan being able to get a nuke to Beijing. I guess Cuba can get a nuke to DC too, eh?

    235. Tgca says:

      OMG!

      Picture shows CIA operatives faces labeled in meeting with Biden where a pic was allowed to be shared publicly.

      My guess in their rush to make Biden look presidential and in control no one thought pictures if CIA operatives was a security risk.

      Whether this was recently or in the past, this is a huge breach in safety.

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/biden-accidentally-reveals-identities-of-cia-agents/

    236. Tgca says:

      Omg! I’m gonna pull my hair out watching SoS Blinken trying to rationalize why it made sense to move troops from Afghanistan and then send them back to evacuate Americans, and that was a contingency they planned for all along.

      Blinken is arguing with CNN’s Jake Tapper…JAKE TAPPER of all people that what is happening in Afghanistan now shows Biden had a plan to deal with any situation and this is playing out as expected.

      Tapper challenges him saying, you removed 2,500 troops before American service members could leave and now you have to send double that, 5,000 troops back in to evacuate them. Trapper pushes, how is that not an abject failure in your exit strategy?

      Blinken keeps saying that is a contingency they planned for as if it was ok to leave Americans there at the risk of dying without a protected evacuation protocol.

      Tapper is clearly frustrated because it makes no sense to endanger Americans and then send forces back in to get them out and then say you planned for that all along so it shows Biden was prepared for all situations.

      It’s like saying there’s faulty wiring in a building you know is going to cause a fire but you don’t evacuate the building and only evacuate it once the fire starts.

      This is absurd reasoning.

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/anthony-blinken-biden-was-wrong/

    237. lisab says:

      Trapper pushes, how is that not an abject failure in your exit strategy?
      ———————

      tapper said that?

      wow … it is almost as if cnn is questioning the idea that having an alzheimer’s patient running the government is worse than mean tweets

    238. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Am in total agreement with what Jason said regarding Taiwan’s ability to defend itself.

      By the way, the U.S. is helping Taiwan upgrade to new F-16v jets. “Lockheed Martin received a $1.85bn contract from the US Government to upgrade 145 Block 20 F-16A/B aircraft for the Republic of China (Taiwan) Air Force in October 2012. The upgrades are based on the F-16 Viper version.”

      The new variant F-16v is also going to be used in the U.S. The Air Force wants a mix of 4th, 5th and future generation aircraft. Here is a description of the capabilities of the F-16v.
      “Revealed for the first time in 2012, the Lockheed Martin F-16 Viper makes use of advanced technology leveraged from advanced fifth-generation fighters such as the F-35 and F-22 as a means to improve the F-16V’s interoperability with these aircraft. Perhaps the most significant upgrade incorporated by the F-16 Viper is the installation of the advanced Northrup Grumman APG-83 Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) radar, which gives the F-16V fifth-generation radar capabilities. The addition of the APG-83 AESA radar affords F-16 pilots greatly enhanced situational awareness by granting greater detection and tracking ranges along with the ability to track more than 20 sperate targets at a time, while also producing high-resolution Synthetic Aperture Radar (SAR) maps for precision strike operations in all types of environments and offering greatly increased system reliability.”

      Since Taiwan is looking at primarily defensive capabilities to protect an island. Assume missiles, drones and other forms of advanced technology could be incorporated into a defensive shield. To invade Taiwan, China would need to assemble a fleet and landing ships in Chinese ports along the Taiwan Straits. They would be sitting ducks for missile attack.

    239. Tgca says:

      240

      This whole Taiwan debate has gone from threats of deterrence to full scale invasion and direct attacks by Taiwan on Beijing and Shanghai which was never the original point if utilizing power plants to weaponise materials. Everyone is arguing different points now and expanding it.

      I agree on some of them but ultimately, Taiwan would be decimated in a full scale war with China. It would not have a chance.

      China would not be stoopid enough to launch attacks without 1st using its long range missiles to take out much infrastructure of Taiwan before even getting close to the island to invade it. No country would approach an island by boat when they have significant missile capability.

      China could render its structures useless with overwhelming force like the US did in Iraq before stepping a foot inside the country.

      Taiwan is an isolated island with nowhere to go and does not have either the technology or sheer size of weaponry that China has.

      China could take out Taiwan electrical grids and shut down power to the small country easily. It could use EMG to interrupt communications.

      I just don’t get how this has escalated into a full scale war when we were talking about deterrence and threats being seriously taken by China.

      …and for the record, low grade nuclear devices come in varying sizes that are not designed to immediately decimate large cities. Yes, drop a small device in a stadium and it will do much damage but many of these small devices are designed to do smaller damage in the thousands depending on where placed, and except for Hong Kong, the key large strategic cities of China are not within striking distance of Taiwan without China be able to counter any such attack.

      So in the future can we debate one point at a time. Geez!

    240. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      California Governor Recall:
      Among RV: Remain 54% (+8) Recall 46% .
      Among LV: Remain 52% (+4) Recall 48% .
      @YouGovAmerica @CBSNewsPoll , 8/6-12

    241. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      BREAKING: Biden’s Sec. Of State Blinken informs the Talibans that they can NOT enter the US embassy in Kabul, unless they are fully vaccinated

    242. Phil says:

      Looks like Newsom will hang on by 5 or 6 points.

      No surprise.

      California is hopeless. If you live there get out of there any way you can. Just please don’t bring your Marxist politics to Texas.

    243. Tgca says:

      US adds another 1,000 troops in Afghanistan, bringing total to 6,000 to protect American service personnel initially left there without necessary protection.

      Afghanistan has devolved into complete chaos within weeks and will now have at their disposal an arsenal of weapons we left there that they did not have before.

      US embassy also moved to the airport now under US protection.

      Was that move also a planned contingency that Biden had from the expected peaceful transition where Biden stated on July 8th (2nd link) that the Taliban would not take over and that the Afghan military was among the best trained like other countries?

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/another-1000-u-s-troops-headed-to-kabul-bringing-total-to-6000/

      https://twitter.com/BryanDeanWright/status/1426710333264179214

    244. Tgca says:

      244

      Not wishful thinking but maybe there’s a 8.0 earthquake coming there way soon. It’s been awhile since a large one hit. That usually scares folks away. Maybe the scaried cats will move to TX.

    245. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      This quote was from the front page of the CNN website:

      “The debacle of the US defeat and chaotic retreat in Afghanistan is a political disaster for Joe Biden, whose failure to orchestrate an urgent and orderly exit will further rock a presidency plagued by crises and stain his legacy.”

    246. Tgca says:

      247

      I’m sure his legacy is not the only thing this bumbling old fool has stained. But I guess that view DEPENDS on where your politics fall.

    247. Phil says:

      That was on the CNN website?

      Damn, when you’ve lost CNN…..

    248. Tgca says:

      Woke General Milley gets it wrong again. Last month he stated:

      ”The Afghan Security Forces have the capacity to sufficiently fight and defend their country, and we will continue to support the Afghan Security Forces where necessary in accordance with the guidance from the president and the secretary of defense.”

      Here’s the video of him in his own words.

      https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2021/08/15/woke-gen-mark-milley-in-july-afghan-security-forces-have-the-capacity-to-defend-their-country/

    249. Tgca says:

      I think this atrocity is going to result in many Afghans losing their freedoms and lives, especially women, unless the Taliban is gentler and kinder this go round…not likely.

      This is terribly sad and disheartening. I don’t blame any folks in these countries with such divided internal conflicts from refusing to help the US in the future. They were abandoned and left to fend for themselves in Gulf War 1 and now here.

      Very hearbreaking what fears and worries most of these people must be experiencing knowing what will happen when the last Americans leave.

    250. Phil says:

      Milley isn’t concerned by anything but rooting out of the military all white conservatives. He considers them the real enemy of America.

      He’s a POS.

    251. Tgca says:

      Clearly POTUS will not take the blame for this as the world watches in horror as 20 years of effort, trillions spent, and many military casualties, all for naught literally in a matter of 2 weeks or less.

      Blinken, Austin, and Milley should be the scape goats and resign immediately.

      This is not competent leadership and tells the world America is not in a position to lead.

      How could they get this SOOOOOO wrong?

      Biden now looks stoopid saying America is back and the world is watching. His braggadocio of his 4 decades of foreign policy experience shows he gets it wrong again, as he has done repeatedly with many foreign policy positions over the years.

      …and than dumb a$$ Kamala makes statements that in April:

      “…that she was the last person in the room before President Joe Biden made the decision to pull all U.S. troops out of Afghanistan.”…with the implication she was somehow key to that decision.

      So not only is POTUS an idiot and moron but so is his 2nd in command.

    252. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      249.I was surprised too. MSNBC is trying to defend Biden.

      It may be that Biden’s keepers are trying to adhere to the “basement strategy” which he used in his campaign — keep him out of sight, and don’t allow him to say anything. It does not work when your president. Hiding away at Camp David makes people feel there is no one in charge at a time of crisis (which is true).

      The Afghanistan crisis is not going away. There was a news report that women were turned away from some schools today in some places. We will soon be hearing about beheadings, people being stoned, women being beaten and forced to cover their faces, gays being thrown off the top of buildings. Its going to get ugly. When bad things began happening in Iraq after the withdrawal of troops, Obama quickly reversed course and got the military involved again. Biden is very unlikely to have that option in Afghanistan.

      Trump would not have permitted this to happen. He threatened to hit the Taliban hard with “never-before-seen-power” when they stepped out of line. By contrast, the Taliban realized that Biden was a political marshmellow, and acted accordingly.

      Hope liberals realize that by electing Biden they elected a president whose lack of action would cost tens-of-thousands of Afghan lives. Biden opposed the killing of Bin Laden, and otherwise has never had much of a backbone. Also, given Hunter Biden’s unhindered actions in collecting money from international businesses based on his father’s position in government (with a cut for the “old man:); doubt that Joe Biden has the moral character to take responsibility for his poor policy decisions.

    253. Tgca says:

      I literally feel sick to my stomach tonight reading all about this Afghanistan debacle thinking how many thousands will probably unnecessarily and violently die at the hands of the Taliban, knowing that the US and its allies will not have the stomach to go back in after ending a 20 year occupation, in essence giving the Taliban a free reign for the next decade or so at a minimum.

      If the US did have the stomach, they would have already reversed course this week.

      This is a huge stain on America and makes us much weaker in the eyes of the world for the way this is happening and sends the message we cannot be trusted.

      We will have to take ownership for any coming atrocities and humanitarian issues, as well as terrorist training footholds.

      All of this could have been avoided.

    254. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Tgca, as is often the case, we are of the same mind on the nightmare that is happening.

    255. Tgca says:

      Nearly a whole generation of kids were being raised to a different world of hope in Afghanistan than their parents and now this hope will be destroyed and their freedoms taken from them.

      It would be like if Germany won WW2 and the US had to convert to nazism. It’s incomprehensible! This is going to be horrendous for this new generation, especially women.

      It’s a horrible thing to say but if I were a father there, I might consider offering mercy killing my daughters to save them from these heartless souls who will think nothing of raping young girls and enslaving them.

    256. Tgca says:

      My God!

      This is the face of fear of young men trying to escape their country as these people trying to rush a plane climbing all over it.

      I don’t know how Biden’s team can say they have it under control and they planned for this.

      https://twitter.com/LisaBennatan/status/1427126397277986816

    257. Skippy says:

      Biden needs to leave his presidency…quit and walk out of the Oval Office.

      What a disgrace.

    258. Gordon Allen says:

      The problem with land based aircraft operating from known runway locations is China has ballistic missiles located on shore in huge numbers which can pulverize them in minutes. Short of having a constant airborne alert they’re pretty much a sitting target.
      Even our carriers moving at 30 knots an hour are at some risk within range of the missiles; fixed locations big time jeopardy.I am certain should an invasion be planned you will see showers of missiles first before a amphibious ship leaves port

    259. Tom says:

      We still have thousands of troops in Afghanistan with not a word on how or when the are coming home. My son-in-law is one of them. Burn in hell Joe Biden.

    260. Gordon Allen says:

      Yes Tom. But look at the positives. No more mean tweets.
      Best wishes and prayers for your son in law. My son in law served three tours in Iraq and Afghanistan.
      Next to the senile moron as Commander in Chief, we really have to dismiss butt —- “politically correct Generals” wholesale, beginning with Austin and Milley. In any normal society previously there would be resignations floating like Confetti; i’ll be surprised if there are any.

    261. Pitchaboy says:

      It appears Fake Flapper has flipped.

    262. Bitterlaw says:

      Welcome back, Pitch. Please give us an update on your take on vaccines. masks, and the Phillies’ chances to win the NL East.

    263. Phil says:

      So what flavor of ice cream has our commander in chief been having during his vacation. No doubt will be the MSM lead story over the next couple of days. Afghanistan? Naw. Everyone knows that’s Trump’s fault.

    264. jason says:

      Since Taiwan is looking at primarily defensive capabilities to protect an island. Assume missiles, drones and other forms of advanced technology could be incorporated into a defensive shield. To invade Taiwan, China would need to assemble a fleet and landing ships in Chinese ports along the Taiwan Straits. They would be sitting ducks for missile attack.”

      Correct. That is why Tgca’s theories are full of crap.

      And let’s not forget Taiwan has land based long range missiles with a range of up to 2000km, enough to reach many areas of the Chinese mainland, including air bases.

      And Taiwan is quickly changing its previous strategy to play defense only to thwart an invasion to China to aggressively seek means of attacking the Chinese mainland, making a military attack by China expensive on the mainland too.

      “The AGM-158 JASSM – standing for Joint Air-to-Surface Standoff Missile – can have a range of almost 1,000 km (621 miles) depending on the model, and be fixed to aircraft including F-16s, which Taiwan operates.

      Lockheed Martin says the missile is designed to destroy high-value, well-defended, fixed and relocatable targets, and be launched far enough away to keep the launch aircraft well away from enemy air defence systems.

      Taiwan’s armed forces, dwarfed by China’s, are in the midst of a modernisation programme to offer a more effective deterrent, including the ability to hit back at bases far from China’s coast in the event of a conflict.

      Taiwan’s armed forces have traditionally concentrated on defending the island from a Chinese attack.

      But President Tsai Ing-wen has stressed the importance of developing an “asymmetrical” deterrent, using mobile equipment that is hard to find and destroy, and capable of hitting targets far away from Taiwan.”

      and

      “Taiwan’s defense minister told reporters this week that it had begun mass producing a new long-range ground-launched missile to bolster its defenses against mainland China.

      The minister and deputy director of Taiwan’s main defense research institute offered few details about the weapon, including its range, but said that three other advanced new missile designs were also under development.

      Taiwan’s air force took delivery of a new, longer-ranged version of its Hsiung Feng II (HF-IIE) cruise missile earlier this year. The new HF-IIE is believed to have a range of 1,200 kilometers, which would allow Taiwanese forces to hit targets deep in China’s mainland to counter an attack across the strait.”

      Tgca’s assumption that China would just wipe out Taiwan with missiles is foolish. In the first place we already know China does not want a destroyed Taiwan, it would have little value and it would be a costly humanitarian crisis of vast proportions.

      Second, Taiwan would strike back at the Chinese mainland in the same manner, and could also attack the grids and ports of the major cities in China, costing the Chinese billions or even trillions in lost production and revenue.

      Add that to a potential nuclear option, and you might want to reconsider how likely China wants to really go to war with Taiwan.

      I am still betting it is highly unlikely.

    265. jason says:

      The problem with land based aircraft operating from known runway locations is China has ballistic missiles located on shore in huge numbers which can pulverize them in minutes. Short of having a constant airborne alert they’re pretty much a sitting target.”

      This is correct. But China has the same problem. Their advantage is they can locate their air assets far from the coast and out of reach of Taiwan’s missiles, but then they are not very useful in a war.

    266. Pitchaboy says:

      Masks: only really useful in closed high risk situations if using N 94 or higher
      Vaccine: Moderna better than Pfizer for delta variant for prevention. Both good in reducing severe infection and death
      Phillies: who the heck knows.

    267. jason says:

      LOL

      White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki, is also on vacation, starting yesterday until August 22.

    268. Phil says:

      ….and of course, drooling Joe continues to be in hiding.

      Imagine what it must be like to be one of this demented fool’s handlers during a crisis. You can’t put this guy out there. It’s too risky.

    269. Bitterlaw says:

      Uh oh. Pitch said vaccines are good for reducing severe infection and death. Attacks to start in 3…2…1…

    270. Dylan says:

      The GOP needs to seize the moment and demand a mental exam or some other Avenue to push the issue of Biden’s figurative and literal AWOL ness now while the public sentiment is favorably inclined Somehow I doubt we will hear a peep

    271. jason says:

      In my view, China will continue to saber rattle and try to isolate Taiwan diplomatically and economically. Just recently, one of the few countries that recognized Taiwan’s independence, Burkina Faso, switched to China under pressure from China. Only 15 other countries recognize ROC as the official China and do not have relations with Beijing.

      China will seek a political, not military solution with Taiwan, although using the military threat as leverage. Even a blockade is not likely considering Taiwan might view it as an act of war and attack the Chinese ships and mainland in response.

      Most likely is a Hong Kong type solution, where Taiwan would officially become part of China but with self government and different economic system. After seeing what is happening in Hong Kong, they will probably seek better guarantees.

    272. jason says:

      Uh oh. Pitch said vaccines are good for reducing severe infection and death. Attacks to start in 3…2…1…”

      Does anybody disagree with that?

      The people I know who will not get vaccinated don’t deny the vaccine is effective against severe infection and deaths. They just don’t believe in the risk-benefit equation for themselves or have had Covid already and think it is unlikely they will die if they get it again.

    273. Cash Cow TM says:

      “If I was a betting man, I would bet Taiwan already has a stock of enriched plutonium.”

      If they come to grind me up into burger meat…let me tell you…I have a stashed supply of enriched hay.

    274. jason says:

      I only got the vaccine because I have contact with people who are at higher risk of complications from COVID.

      I would have been perfectly willing to take the risk for just myself.

      If I was in my 20’s I wouldn’t take it and if I had young children I would not vaccinate them.

    275. Cash Cow TM says:

      “Biden’s Sec. Of State Blinken informs the Talibans…”

      Winken, Blinken and Nod.

    276. Wobbles says:

      The GOP needs to seize the moment and demand a mental exam or some other Avenue to push the issue of Biden’s figurative and literal AWOL ness now while the public sentiment is favorably inclined Somehow I doubt we will hear a peep”

      You won’t hear a peep from me.

      Remember when some quack psychologist diagnosed Trump on TV as mentally impaired and I was here 24/7 promoting her as the paragon of knowledge and science?

    277. jason says:

      Lots of action where Bitter lives….

      “Entering the weekend, 1,333 people had been shot in Philadelphia this year, a 19% increase from the same period a year ago, according to police department crime statistics. By the end of Friday, the city had recorded 329 homicides, a 26% increase from the same time period in 2020, the data shows.

      Eleven more people were shot in Philadelphia over the weekend, five fatally, according to police.”

    278. jason says:

      Let me fix that.

      Lots of action where Bitter “lives”.

    279. jason says:

      The disaster in Afghanistan reached a new level today as the airport in Kabul turned into the location of one of the most chaotic scenes in modern history. The runways are overrun to the point where AH-64 Apache helicopters are being used to buzz them in order to try to clear a path. People are clinging to the landing gear of C-17s and falling to their deaths as they take off.”

      Normal.

    280. Dylan says:

      I actually think the US government in its current state can fall just as fast Who thinks it really “can’t happen here”?

    281. jason says:

      “Biden nat-sec adviser: Hey, we’ve flown choppers out of our embassy for 20 years”

      Ah, ok, now we can move on I guess.

    282. jason says:

      NBC: The real story is how Republicans “seized” on Kabul-Saigon parallel, you know”

    283. jason says:

      I hope not, but if you have 6000 troops at the airport and they are taking fire there is a good chance there will be US casualties.

      The Taliban will try to ensure that for maximum propaganda purposes.

      I am just not confident there was enough time to adequately secure the airport. You don’t even know if there are terrorists among the people swarming to the airport, how are you going to control that.

      A complete and utter cluster f-ck of immense proportions.

      And totally unnecessary.

    284. Gordon Allen says:

      281 Jason.You don’t get it. No More Mean Tweets.Republic saved!!

    285. jason says:

      “As Western Embassies Retreat from Afghanistan, Russia and China Remain”

    286. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “That sentiment was echoed by Rep. Seth Moulton (D-Mass.), a Marine who served four tours in Iraq. “The time to debate whether we stay in Afghanistan has passed, but there is still time to debate how we manage our retreat,” Moulton said in a lengthy statement Sunday. “For months, I have been calling on the Administration to evacuate our allies immediately,” he continued. “The fact that, at this hour, we have not even secured the civilian half of the Kabul airport is testament to our moral and operational failure”

    287. Tgca says:

      266

      I never said China would wipe out Taiwan with missiles because I don’t believe that, unless they were nuclear armed which I don’t think China would do. I said they could start with missiles to destroy a great deal of their infrastructure to make it difficult for them in essence to mobilize.

      Jadon really has a problem reading and comprehending English, as many here have noted in the past.

      Somebody says one thing and he twists it into something else. He is incapable of staying on point to debate a detailed situation. It’s his MO.

      Like I said, this debate went from a deterrence argument of using nuclear power plant spent fuel conversion to full scale war with specific types of equipment Taiwan has to thwart China.

      I still strongly believe China would crush Taiwan in a war and the world would probably not do much other than issue a bunch of statements about humanitarian concerns…kinda like we are seeing with Afghanistan now.

      Taiwan is not important in the large scheme of things in the world and sooner or later, it will re-unify with China or be isolated as the world changes and becomes smaller and regional powers divvy it up.

      China takes the long view on issues so it will most likely wait out and re-unify Taiwan when the time is right for them…and my gut is no country or group of countries is going to do anything about it because it is the way China is right now.

    288. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “In an interview over the weekend, former Afghanistan Ambassador Ryan Crocker questioned the president’s leadership capabilities amid the Taliban’s swift takeover of the country.

      Crocker, who has served as a diplomat under numerous administrations, accused Biden of either misreading the situation or not caring about the consequences of a hasty withdrawal.

      “I’m left with some grave questions in my mind about his ability to lead our nation as commander in chief,” Crocker remarked to the Spokane Spokesman-Review. “To have read this so wrong – or, even worse, to have understood what was likely to happen and not care.””

    289. Tgca says:

      273

      Finally!!! Jadon follows my lead.

      Good boy.

      *pats head*

    290. Tgca says:

      274

      Now Jadon is plagiarizing and stealing my material.

      I would add they also don’t think the gubbermint has a right to mandate experimental vaccines without known long-term effects that have also resulted in many deaths compared to other vaccines, though proportionally minute in total distribution, as well as strong side effects for an illness that is 99.5% or greater survivable for most people without underlying serious comorbidities.

    291. Bitterlaw says:

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9897201/Terror-Kabul-airport-Troops-fire-shots-air-desperate-Afghans-climb-airbridges.html

      Biden is lucky that most Americans don’t read the Daily Mail and other UK newspapers.

    292. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @NateSilver538
      Australia has most of its population under a lockdown so strict as to resemble the terms of house arrest and yet cases are still rising there. I’m not sure why it’s example of any sort of success that the US would want to emulate.

    293. Tgca says:

      279

      Gibberish from Jadon.

      Most of Philly is safe so nothing to worry about if you don’t go to the bad parts and just stay inside your apartment and board yourself up.

    294. Bitterlaw says:

      Maybe Trump should have let the Taliban leader stay in a Pakistani prison instead of seeking his release.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9898321/Freed-jail-help-Donald-Trump-Abdul-Ghani-Baradar-head-Afghanistan.html

    295. Tgca says:

      285

      Exaggerations!

      Yes, Afghanistan is messy right now but it’s definitely not a lost cause.

      Let’s be real! Liz Cheney hit it on the nose when she noted this would not have happened had Trump not negotiated with terrorists.

      Her daddy would have done it much differently but evidently somewhere in the negotiation document Trump buried a clause how the Taliban will overrun the Afghan military and take the country back to the dark ages within weeks.

      Biden is only following through on Trump’s policy and Biden can’t change a Trump policy like all the other Trump policies he changed because…well…because…well he just can’t and that’s that!

    296. Tgca says:

      Not to distract from Afghanistan at the moment but Pelosi and team should consider impeachment charges against Trump for this debacle and Liz Cheney should join in a bipartisan effort to lead these charges.

      My gut feel is Trump gets something from this Taliban deal he made…perhaps to build a hotel for terrorists flocking to Kabul?

    297. Tgca says:

      290

      BS SDC!!!

      Former Afghan Crocker is just seeking his 15 minutes of fame by 2nd guessing Biden.

      As Crazy Nancy so elegantly stated:

      “The President is to be commended for the clarity of purpose of his statement on Afghanistan and the actions he has taken. “

    298. Tgca says:

      Thwee Hundwid bishes!

      Thwee Hundwid I thay!

    299. lisab says:

      Liz Cheney

      Six months ago our Capitol and Constitution were attacked.

    300. lisab says:

      biden to speak at 3:45

      they are drugging him now

    301. Tgca says:

      Gen. Milley Warns Senators: Terror Groups Will Come Back Faster in Afghanistan

      General Milley in July:

      “Afghan Security Forces have the capacity to sufficiently fight and defend their country.”

      General Milley yesterday:

      “…the United States could now face a rise in terrorist threats from a Taliban-run Afghanistan. “

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/16/gen-milley-warns-senators-terror-groups-will-come-back-faster/

    302. jason says:

      “Most of Philly is safe so nothing to worry about”

      – Bitter

      “Do I trust the Taliban? No. But I trust the capacity of the Afghan military, who is better trained, better equipped, and more re— more competent in terms of conducting war.”

      – Biden

      The similarities are astounding!

    303. jason says:

      “Entering the weekend, 1,333 people had been shot in Philadelphia this year, a 19% increase from the same period a year ago, according to police department crime statistics. By the end of Friday, the city had recorded 329 homicides, a 26% increase from the same time period in 2020, the data shows.

      Eleven more people were shot in Philadelphia over the weekend, five fatally, according to police.”

      Bitter defined this as “gibberish”.

    304. Tgca says:

      303

      Thanks for the heads up LisaB.

      I feel so much better now and relieved knowing that Biden will come back from vacation and speak to us today.

      Did they say what he will speak about?

      Is he going to discuss issues of great concern for the nation like bathroom equality for transgenders?

    305. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      What best describes how you feel about how President Biden is handling US military operations in Afghanistan?

      Approve 23%
      Disapprove 69%
      @trafalgar_group/@COSProject
      1,084 LV, 8/14-15
      https://thetrafalgargroup.org/COSA-National-Afghanistan-Full-Report.pdf

    306. jason says:

      Whoops, Bitter didn’t say that.

      But he would have if Tgca didn’t beat him to it, so I should be excused for the error.

    307. jason says:

      A quarter of Americans think this was well handled?

      Geezus, we are truly screwed.

    308. Tgca says:

      305

      Very mean post. Something like Trump would post.

      This is not the way to unify HHR.

    309. jason says:

      Bitterlaw says:
      August 16, 2021 at 12:31 pm

      Maybe Trump should have let the Taliban leader stay in a Pakistani prison instead of seeking his release.”

      Zzzzzzz…. straight out of MSNBC talking points? Or maybe the far left Guardian’s talking points is more accurate.

      What a crock of crap.

      Releasing this one guy caused the Afghan government to fall?

      Puhhhhhleeeeze…….

    310. jason says:

      305

      Very mean post. Something like Trump would post.”

      Sorry, I was quoting you, thanks for the warning.

    311. jason says:

      The NYT is trying to help…

      “Biden has few, if any, defenders on the chaotic last days of the 20-year war in Afghanistan, but ultimately, a war-weary nation may well give him a pass for ending America’s longest war, regardless of the short-term costs in blood and treasure.”

    312. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “This was an intelligence problem.”

      Yes, we know Biden is stupid.

    313. lisab says:

      “Do I trust the Taliban? No. But I trust the capacity of the Afghan military, who is better trained, better equipped, and more re— more competent in terms of conducting war.”
      ————————————–

      actually, MOST of afghanistan is safe

      as long as you stay away from any people,

      you’ll be fine

    314. lisab says:

      Did they say what he will speak about?
      ——————————————

      i think he has slides from his vacations

    315. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      A quote from the liberal Atlantic magazine. The liberal media has turned on Biden — his political security blanket is gone —

      “There’s plenty of blame to go around for the 20-year debacle in Afghanistan—enough to fill a library of books. Perhaps the effort to rebuild the country was doomed from the start. But our abandonment of the Afghans who helped us, counted on us, staked their lives on us, is a final, gratuitous shame that we could have avoided. The Biden administration failed to heed the warnings on Afghanistan, failed to act with urgency—and its failure has left tens of thousands of Afghans to a terrible fate. This betrayal will live in infamy. The burden of shame falls on President Joe Biden.”

    316. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason has now resorted to using things posted by Tgca to pretend I said them. Jason should read 295 and then GFH.

    317. lisab says:

      biden’s speech has been released, it is pretty good, but i doubt he can get through it without stumbling
      ————————-

      the president of a great democracy such as ours, owe a common obligation to the people: an obligation to present the facts, to present them with candour, and to present them in perspective. it is with that obligation in mind that i have decided in the last 24 hours to discuss briefly at this time the recent events in afghanistan.
      in that unhappy country, as in so many other areas of the contest for freedom, the news has grown worse instead of better. i have emphasized before that this was a struggle of afghan patriots against a terrorist nation. while we could be expected to lend our sympathies, we made it repeatedly clear that the armed forces of this country would not intervene in any way.
      it is not the first time that terrorists have rolled over gallant men and women fighting to redeem the independence of their homeland. nor is it by any means the final episode in the eternal struggle of liberty against tyranny, anywhere on the face of the globe, including afghanistan itself. but there are from this sobering episode useful lessons for all to learn. some may be still obscure and await further information. some are clear today.
      first, it is clear that the forces of terror are not to be underestimated, in afghanistan or anywhere else in the world. the advantages of a terror state – its use of mass terror and arrests to prevent the spread of free dissent – cannot be overlooked by those who expect the fall of every fanatic tyrant.
      secondly, it is clear that this nation, in concert with all the free nations, must take an even closer and more realistic look at the menace of external intervention and domination.. the evidence is clear, and the hour is late. we and our afghan friends will have to face the fact that we cannot postpone any longer the real issue of the survival of freedom.
      third and finally, it is clearer than ever that we face a relentless struggle in every corner of the globe that goes far beyond the clash of armies. the armies are there and in large number. the terrorists are there. but they serve primarily as the shield behind which subversion, infiltration, and a host of other tactics steadily advance, picking off vulnerable areas one by one in situations which do not permit our own armed intervention.
      power is the hallmark of this offensive – power and discipline and deceit. the legitimate discontent of yearning peoples is exploited. the legitimate trappings of self-determination are employed. but once in power, all talk of discontent is repressed; all self-determination disappears; and the promise of a revolution of hope is betrayed, as in afghanistan, into a reign of terror…
      the message of iran, syria, afghanistan and other voices in asia and the middle east – these messages are all the same. the complacent, the self-indulgent, the soft societies are about to be swept away with the debris of history. only the strong, only the industrious, only the determined, only the courageous, only the visionary who determine the real nature of our struggle can possibly survive.

    318. lisab says:

      only selected reporters with pre-approved questions will be asked after the speech

    319. Bitterlaw says:

      From my office window that is across the street from City Hall I can see that Jason should GFH. I never said that shootings, crimes and murders in Philadelphia are extremely high. What I did say was that I lived in Philadelphia for 8 years (1994-2022) and have worked in the city from 1994-2017, 2019 until now and I have never been a victim of a crime.

    320. Tgca says:

      308. SDC

      I’ve done some sleuthing on this polls because something sounds fishy.

      So 1,084 respondents in this poll of which 35.6% are GOP for a total of 387 GOP folks and 7% approve or strongly approved for a total of 27 GOP folks giving nods to Biden’s Afghan leadership.

      So let’s see between:

      Dick Cheney and his wife and their children, children’s spouses and grandchildren I count 11 in the Cheney clan.

      GWB and and his wife and their children, children’s spouses and grandchildren I count 9 in the GWB clan.

      Jeb and and his wife and their children, children’s spouses and grandchildren I count 8 in the Jeb clan.

      That’s a total of 28 but the poll shows 27 approve or strongly approved of Biden’s action in Afghanistan.

      So which one of these 28 folks did not give Biden a nod of approval?

      My guess is George P Bush but who really knows.

    321. jason says:

      I never said that shootings, crimes and murders in Philadelphia are extremely high.”

      Yeah, you never did.

      I think that is a problem.

    322. jason says:

      Jason has now resorted to using things posted by Tgca to pretend I said them. Jason should read 295 and then GFH.”

      Zzzz… I admitted the error.

      GFY.

    323. jason says:

      biden’s speech has been released, it is pretty good, but i doubt he can get through it without stumbling”

      What the hell is good about it?

      A bunch of trite, insincere, CYA baloney.

    324. Tgca says:

      319

      That’s because we’re allies…when we’re not discussing delicious tasty and healthy vegan recipes, nuances of economic policies, nuclear power plant capabilities, and the successful presidency of GWB.

    325. jason says:

      only selected reporters with pre-approved questions will be asked after the speech”

      At Camp David, considering the climate there, what is your favorite ice cream flavor?

      Do you think Trump should be just condemned for the Afghanistan debacle or face charges?

      Do you think the Afghanistan Debacle is a distraction from really important and serious issues like Jan 6 armed insurrection?

    326. Tgca says:

      325

      ERROR!!!

      You say I erred in my summary of Philly being a safe haven?

      I will add that to our list of issues we disagree upon.

    327. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Bitter, Abdul Ghani Baradar was the chief negotiator for the Taliban during the peace negotiations. He was released to participate in the negotiations.

    328. Bitterlaw says:

      I meant to type “I never said that shootings, crimes and murders in Philadelphia are NOT extremely high.”

      Of course. Jason knows that I have been extremely critical of Philadelphia’s anti-police and pro-criminal DA but he will pretend that I ignore crime in Philadelphia.

    329. Tgca says:

      328

      You forgot:

      If Nancy Pelosi proposes, would you support impeachment of Trump for this Afghanistan debacle?

    330. jason says:

      No, I erred in attributing the quote to Bitter when actually you wrote.

    331. jason says:

      This is CNN

      CNN: “They’re just chanting death to America, but they seem friendly at the same time. It’s utterly bizarre.”

    332. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason has as much knowledge of my day in Philadelphia as I do about his trips to Sheetz. Maybe I should just do what he did when he pretended he went to a Wawa bit then had to admit he made it up.

    333. jason says:

      I meant to type “I never said that shootings, crimes and murders in Philadelphia are NOT extremely high.”

      Bitter is now resorting to pretending he didn’t say things he posted.

    334. Phil says:

      I thought that was from the Babylon Bee. Lol

    335. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      320. Is that really Biden’s speech? It is meaningless, and does not address the current issues in Afghanistan.

    336. Tgca says:

      335

      That’s a rational comment me thinks so let’s not poop on CNN.

      After all, the Nazi smiled at their victims as they gassed them so it also seems bizarre to express a friendly gesture while putting someone to death.

      But hey, human beings are complex individuals.

    337. Bitterlaw says:

      He was released to participate in the negotiations.

      And he got everything the Taliban wanted. No free lunch for Trump or Biden. Afghanistan’s soon to be leader should still be in a Pakistani prison. This disaster would still have happened because Biden completely F-ed up the withdrawal of US forces but at least one more terrorist would be in jail.

    338. lisab says:

      Is that really Biden’s speech? It is meaningless, and does not address the current issues in Afghanistan. sdc

      What the hell is good about it?

      A bunch of trite, insincere, CYA baloney.
      —————————–

      hey … it worked for jfk after the bay of pigs,

      so it will work here

    339. Bitterlaw says:

      Bitter is now resorting to pretending he didn’t say things he posted.

      I made a typo in the first post. GFY. Go back to using Tgca’s posts and claiming they are mine. Of course, I could just say you obviously made a mistake but I won’t get the same courtesy in return. You reap what you sow, jason.

    340. Skippy says:

      320:

      Pretty good speech?

      What the bleep?

      Good lord give me a break.

    341. jason says:

      jason knows that I have been extremely critical of Philadelphia’s anti-police and pro-criminal DA but he will pretend that I ignore crime in Philadelphia.”

      Actually I don’t know that at all. That is a load of BS.

      Let’s cut to the chase here.

      You do ignore crime in Philly all the time by constantly downplaying it and whitewashing it and pretending it is just a little bit of crime in a little part of the city.

      Philly is a highly corrupt, high crime ridden hell hole and just because it has upscale neighborhoods with less crime than others does not change that.

      Then you insult our intelligence with this lie about “living in Philly” when actually you don’t live in Philly, you live in Radnor. It might be 65 miles as a crow flies but it it might as well be 100 miles or York as far as being different.

      Then you want to pretend you are a wealth of knowledge about Philly but your comments about it indicate you are either lying about the reality there or you are ignorant of it, take you choice.

      If you want to be an authority on Philly, then speak the truth about it. If you want to lie about it, then forget being an authority.

      You can’t have it both ways.

    342. Tgca says:

      338

      Biden’s speech also tells the world if we come in and provide you false hope as you help us achieve our objective, then sooner or later we will abandon you and blame it on you because you lack the will to survive…because…well…Jesus was wrong when he proclaimed “the meek will inherit the earth.”

      …but no worries, we’ll watch from afar and make lots of speeches about how the Taliban must respect its people and we will criticize them for the humanitarian crisis we created by our failed leadership and abandoning you in your hour of need.

      Thank you and good luck to you.

    343. jason says:

      6 miles as a crow flies.

    344. jason says:

      Go back to using Tgca’s posts and claiming they are mine. Of course, I could just say you obviously made a mistake”

      I admitted I made a mistake.

      Why don’t you admit it was no mistake when you said “I never said that shootings, crimes and murders in Philadelphia are extremely high”

      You know it is what you meant.

    345. jason says:

      itterlaw says:
      August 16, 2021 at 2:29 pm

      He was released to participate in the negotiations.

      And he got everything the Taliban wanted. No free lunch for Trump or Biden. Afghanistan’s soon to be leader should still be in a Pakistani prison. This disaster would still have happened because Biden completely F-ed up the withdrawal of US forces but at least one more terrorist would be in jail.

      More BS and fake equivalency from Bitterlaw.

      He is using a cheap shot on Trump by the far left Guardian to pretend there is some equal responsibility in the debacle in Afghanistan and the fact ONE Taliban was released as part of the negotiations.

      There is no equivalency here. GFY.

    346. Tgca says:

      Geez! So much animosity on this site today.

      I’m going out for a bit and when I get back I hope to see posts spiriting love and camaraderie.

      Remember, Love Conquers All.

    347. jason says:

      I hope lisab was joking when she said that was a good speech.

      Geezus.

    348. Bitterlaw says:

      You know it is what you meant.

      No. It was not what I meant. I would not have typed the correction if I meant the first post. Of course, by your standard, you think Radnor is 65 miles from Philadelphia. No typos allowed, right?

    349. NYCmike says:

      “The people I know who will not get vaccinated don’t deny the vaccine is effective against severe infection and deaths. They just don’t believe in the risk-benefit equation for themselves or have had Covid already and think it is unlikely they will die if they get it again.”

      -Pitch(aboy) perfect

    350. jason says:

      you think Radnor is 65 miles from Philadelphia.”

      It might as well be.

    351. jason says:

      “I would not have typed the correction if I meant the first post.”

      Hmmmm…I guess what is good for the goose is not good for the gander.

      jason says:
      August 16, 2021 at 2:37 pm

      6 miles as a crow flies.

    352. Bitterlaw says:

      He is using a cheap shot on Trump by the far left Guardian

      296 was from the Daily Mail. I jnow jason has his talking points lined up ready to go but he really needs to read the posts first.

      Then you insult our intelligence with this lie about “living in Philly” when actually you don’t live in Philly

      Which is why I specifically said I lived in Philadelphia from 1994-2002 and then listed the dates I have worked here. Maybe jason needs to start drinking again.

    353. jason says:

      “The people I know who will not get vaccinated don’t deny the vaccine is effective against severe infection and deaths. They just don’t believe in the risk-benefit equation for themselves or have had Covid already and think it is unlikely they will die if they get it again.”

      -Pitch(aboy) perfect”

      GFY.

      I wrote that.

    354. Bitterlaw says:

      He is using a cheap shot on Trump by the far left Guardian to pretend there is some equal responsibility in the debacle in Afghanistan and the fact ONE Taliban was released as part of the negotiations.

      Jason really needs to read posts before he responds to them. Where is the alleged equivalency between Trump and Biden? I said Biden caused this disaster:

      This disaster would still have happened because Biden completely F-ed up the withdrawal of US forces but at least one more terrorist would be in jail.

    355. jason says:

      Let me fix if for Bitter.

      “He is using a cheap shot on Trump by the Daily Mail to pretend there is some equal responsibility in the debacle in Afghanistan and the fact ONE Taliban was released as part of the negotiations.”

      “Where is the alleged equivalency between Trump and Biden?”

      Bitter lies so much he forgets his own lies.

      “No free lunch for Trump or Biden”

      That certainly sounds like an equivalency to me.

      GFY.

    356. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      348. “And he got everything the Taliban wanted. No free lunch for Trump or Biden.”

      Baloney. Trump threatened to hit the Taliban with “never-before-seen-power” if they attacked. They had the good sense to wait until a weak and indecisive Biden became president. Just ask Qasem Soleimani how Trump reacted to terrorists attacks during his presidency.

    357. Bitterlaw says:

      If you want to be an authority on Philly, then repeat what jason says about it.

      Fixed it.

    358. NYCmike says:

      A-Hole,

      sorry about that! Your response was to Bitterlaw to Pitch…….

    359. jason says:

      Sometimes I really do wonder why Bitter gets offended when some here say he wants to be Pelosi’s favorite Republican.

    360. jason says:

      A-Hole,

      sorry about that!”

      Hey, since you approved of the post I wanted to take credit.

      If it was critical I would have let it slide….as I usually do.

    361. NYCmike says:

      As for Trump blame with that 1 guy released, I am surprised that Pompeo and Trump let that happen, and I do think it was wrong to let him out…….but, that has ZERO to do with the events of the last 6 months.

    362. jason says:

      but, that has ZERO to do with the events of the last 6 months.”

      Exactly, so why bring it up if you are not trying to demonstrate some kind of (false) equivalency.

    363. jason says:

      348. “And he got everything the Taliban wanted. No free lunch for Trump or Biden.”

      Baloney. Trump threatened to hit the Taliban with “never-before-seen-power” if they attacked. They had the good sense to wait until a weak and indecisive Biden became president. Just ask Qasem Soleimani how Trump reacted to terrorists attacks during his presidency.”

      Yep. So implying Trump was weak on terrorists because this one guy was released for a specific reason and had nothing to do with the events that have unfolded IS a cheap shot and a false equivalency.

    364. Bitterlaw says:

      Sometimes I really do wonder why Bitter gets offended when some here say he wants to be Pelosi’s favorite Republican.

      Because I don’t. I have never supported a single policy or bill proposed by Pelosi.

    365. Wes says:

      When even the media have given up on covering for Biden, you know things are bad. This was a massive unforced error. It only underscores just how rudderless and ineffective the Biden Administration is.

    366. Bitterlaw says:

      Because Jason asked….

      Biden says US forces were supposed to be out of Afghanistan by May 1, 2021 because of Trump’s deal. Only choice was to pull out or increase forces. He stands by decision to pull them out.

    367. Bitterlaw says:

      Blames Afghan leaders and military gave up and refused to fight.

    368. Cash Cow TM says:

      Biden:

      “It’s Trump’s fault.”
      “I inherited this.”
      “It’s the Gannystan military’s fault.”

      “And, BTW, my son Hunter is having another art sale.
      I encourage all interested parties to buy heavily.”

    369. Cash Cow TM says:

      So what will Biden do for the Gannystan people who worked with the U.S. and are about to be slaughtered, raped and beheaded?

    370. dylan says:

      The sad cold reality is that this happened so soon into Biden’s feckless administration that it is 1000X worse than Iran and Carter which happened basically 2/3rds of the way through his term. We are stuck with this disaster. How can we survive another 3.4 years of Biden. Any GOP senator that gives this POS one victory on any legislative issue needs to be primaried.

    371. Bitterlaw says:

      Biden said that it would make America’s enemies happy for American to keep wasting American lives and money in Afghanistan. He won’t let more Americans die there.

    372. Cash Cow TM says:

      Biden:

      “We will flex our diplomatic muscle to help the Gannystan people.”

    373. NYCmike says:

      https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/08/16/chinese-state-media-taiwans-pro-democracy-party-should-look-to-afghanistan-and-despair-n409214?cx_testId=1&cx_testVariant=cx_1&cx_artPos=1#cxrecs_s

      -And just like that, Taiwan is gone.

      I doubt the Taiwanese independence movement will last 1 or 2 more elections, with this sort of propaganda, based on reality, being shown to them at this time.

      “CG”, great choice you made in Biden. I’ll enjoy your spin of how this is Trump’s fault when you pop in for your afternoon prayers…….

    374. Bitterlaw says:

      Biden – Authorized 6000 troops to evacuate Americans and Afghans who helped us.

    375. Cash Cow TM says:

      Biden is clueless…

    376. Bitterlaw says:

      If Taliban attacks, will respond with devastating force. And then leave.

    377. Cash Cow TM says:

      I predict the first follow up question asked to Biden by the press will be:

      “What kind of ice cream did you eat at Camp David this past weekend?”

      or maybe..

      “Do you plan to get another dog?”

    378. Wes says:

      So since Biden has brought us full circle to the ’70s, I guess people need to start investing in bell bottoms and disco balls.

    379. Phil says:

      ‘Flex our diplomatic muscle”

      ??

      Oh, that will work.

      Bitter, please tell me he didn’t really say that.

    380. Cash Cow TM says:

      “it is all about a civil war that has been going on in Ghannystan.”

    381. Wes says:

      On RRH, our own GF makes an apropos comparison of Afghanistan to China in 1949.

    382. Cash Cow TM says:

      TAKING NO QUESTIONS!!!

    383. Cash Cow TM says:

      When will Tallywackers start beheading people right outside the fences at the airport?

    384. Tom says:

      Biden also inherited a secure border, energy independence, a recovering economy, and covid vaccines. But he was so hell-bent on destroying Trump’s legacy that he has screwed up every one of these, and more (rental industry, employee shortages). So now we’re to believe that the one Trump policy he decided to keep is the reason for the chaos in Afghanistan. You sure know how to pick em Joe.

    385. Bitterlaw says:

      Biden says he is the 4th President to oversee the war in Afghanistan and will not pass it on to a 5th President.

      He concludes statement without taking questions.

    386. Phil says:

      Taking no questions,

      Oh, I’m absolutely shocked!! Shocked I say!

    387. Wes says:

      Liberals are trying to claim this is Trump’s fault.

      Sorry. Trump didn’t authorize a haphazard withdrawal. Biden did that. This is all on him.

    388. Cash Cow TM says:

      So…what were the details of Trump’s Gannystan exit plan he handed off to Biden–and how did Biden change the plans?

    389. Tgca says:

      381

      “So since Biden has brought us full circle to the ’70s, I guess people need to …start investing in bell bottoms and disco balls.”

      …and what makes you think some of us don’t already have them stashed away in our closet?

      I keep my bell bottoms next to my parachute pants and Cavariccis in my closet.

      https://www.pinterest.com/pin/508766089147410333/

      https://www.jingcnn.top/products.aspx?cid=22&cname=z+cavaricci+mens+jeans

    390. Bitterlaw says:

      2 points:

      1. Good for Jay Cutler
      2. Other than Corey, who would be motivated to buy anything endorsed by Jay Cutler?

    391. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      A totally appalling speech by Biden. Total betrayal of Afghans — thank you for your help in the war on terror; now we are going to cut and run.

      The Pentagon press briefing was a joke. When asked why the U.S. had not done air stakes to help the Afghans – the response: “that is Monday morning quarterbacking.” A female Afghan journalist emotionally explained what would happen to women in Afghanistan: the response: “We fell your pain.”

      The fact is the Afghan military had fought well; with U.S. air support and intelligence information. We had almost no casualties. It keep a lid on a terrorist hotbed. Then we cut and run; are we surprised the Afghan military folded? Now Biden has just allowed Afghanistan to once again become a terrorist hotbed — the U.S. may pay a horrible price in the future.

    392. Gordon Allen says:

      At the time I was sure Carter was over his head incompetent, but tried. Biden is an over his head incompetent,a grifter perpetually with his hand out,a wannabe along with his putrid wife, whose also mean spirited and senile.
      A disgrace to the US,and anybody who supported him should be ashamed and shut up.
      And I’m being generous in all that.zThis toad is President of the US??

    393. jason says:

      Uber Eats would never find my house and would deliver to an Amish household, further cementing their view that the English are crazy.

    394. Phil says:

      This toad is President of the United States?

      Yeah. Hard to believe isn’t it.

    395. jason says:

      This is why I said that the Never Trumpers who purportedly were willing to trade Trump for Biden for “moral” reasons were sadly deluded.

      I said the same thing when the Corey Troll said Hillary was a “better person” than Trump.

      The Clintons and the Bidens have zero “moral” superiority over Trump. None. Nada. Zilch.

    396. jason says:

      Carter was incompetent and should never have been President, but he was a paragon of virtue compared to the Clintons and Bidens.

    397. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Biden has shamed the U.S. He clearly has no sense of honor or morals. The fact he has let his druggie son, Hunter, travel around the world shaking down foreign businesses for cash, and not stopped it (or may even have profited from it) shows he lacks any character.

    398. dylan says:

      We aren’t even 1/6th through the Biden presidency. Wait til the US Dollar and US Economy collapsed just as quick as Kabul and the Afghan Government did. You all think that could never happen here. IT IS VERY LIKELY TO HAPPEN HERE AND RIGHT SOON.

    399. Tgca says:

      395

      We betrayed the Afghani people.

      If Afghanistan becomes a hotbed for terrorists and they attack us or bring another 9/11 upon us, we have no one to blame ourselves, and we should reflect on any suffering we feel to the suffering we have caused others.

      Ultimately, we are looking at tens to hundreds of thousands of lost lives in the future under the Taliban, as well as millions of ruined lives of women, children, gays, and others the Taliban does not tolerate.

      Sorry! But 9/11 was not worth this cost. American lives are not superior to the lives of innocent people in Afghanistan.

    400. Tgca says:

      We spent $2 trillion on this war and lost 2,000 Americans and our allies lost numerous personnel as well…for what?

      It did not have to end this way.

      Terrorists have won today! They get to take back a country and we re-armed them as well, with them knowing there’s not a chance in Hell anyone will root them out again in the next couple of decades at a minimum.

      This dishonors the fallen Americans as well as those lost lives in 9/11.

    401. Tgca says:

      My advice to countries struggling with dictators and terrorists – you’re better off not helping the US and your allies because chances are you will be abandoned and pay the ultimate price.

      If America or its allies need your assistance or to go through your country or airspace to achieve an objective, just say no!

      Let these politicians and woke generals reflect on their gross incompetence and just stay nuetral.

    402. jason says:

      We bought ourselves 20 years of having a terrorist state such as the one that harbored Bin Laden, but now terrorists will again be able to use Afghanistan as a base of operations, especially since the UN will not throw it out.

    403. jason says:

      “BASH: President Biden always said that he wants you to be the last person in the room…

      HARRIS: Yes.

      BASH: … particularly for big decisions, just as he was for President Obama.

      [09:20:00]

      HARRIS: Yes.

      BASH: He just made a really big decision, Afghanistan.

      HARRIS: Yes.

      BASH: Were you the last person in the room?

      HARRIS: Yes.

      BASH: And you feel comfortable?

      HARRIS: I do.”

    404. Tgca says:

      407

      …and wait until they start blackmailing the world into providing funds to not kill as many people as they normally would so that our politicians can issue proclamations of how they helped achieve such compassion with millions in cash to the Taliban.

      While we’re at it, lets build them another stadium where instead of using it for sporting events, they can execute folks. I’m sure the old stadium is in disrepair by now.

    405. Phil says:

      Bad look for Biden at the end of his speech to immediately turn and just walk away while completely and blatantly ignoring questions being shouted at him.

      Maybe an even worse look to immediately leave the WH and resume his vacation…but that’s exactly what he has done.

      I suppose his handlers just figured the MSM would give him enough cover to do whatever he wants. He’s used to it.

    406. jason says:

      When you can’t even BS Tapper….

      “The president said that the buck stopped with him, but in fact, this speech was full of finger-pointing and blame, especially for the Afghans,” Tapper said. “…He did not really get into or accept any blame for the catastrophic exit that we have been watching on television in the last several days.”

    407. Tgca says:

      Wisconsin Dane County Sheriff: Inmates Will Now Be Called ‘Residents’

      The term “Inmates” is too dehumanizing. “Residents” feels much better.

      So my question is, as residents, shouldn’t they have the right to vacate the premise by choice?

      https://www.lawofficer.com/dane-county-sheriff-kalvin-barrett-inmates-called-residents/

    408. jason says:

      Never too much Kool-Aid for Jennifer Rubin.

      “Brutally honest. Accepts responsibility. The best speech under the circumstances.”

    409. Tgca says:

      Lost in all this Afghan debacle is other important news.

      Haiti was hit with a 7.2 earthquake this weekend and the death toll stands at nearly 1,300 and 5,700 injured.

      Here’s hoping they get through this soon and the support they need.

    410. Tgca says:

      Brutally honest?

      No! Brutally honest is I f*cked up big time and millions will suffer, especially women and children for my incompetence.

      But that’s ok…I have transgender bathroom equality issues to focus on now.

    411. jason says:

      The UN has spoken.

      “The UN Security Council has issued a statement on Afghanistan, in part calling for the “full, equal and meaningful participation of women” in a new government.”

    412. Tgca says:

      416

      Oh that’s a relief. Whew!

      I was wondering when the UN was going to weigh in and display their clout.

      I’m sure the Taliban will get right on it now,

    413. jason says:

      I will accept brutal.

      Honest, no.

    414. Tgca says:

      Stoopid CNN skank Nicole Wallace thinks 95% of Americans agree with Biden on Afghanistan and thinks the media is wrong.

      “95% of the American people will agree with everything [President Biden] just said. 95% of the press covering this White House will disagree.”

      “…and for an American President to finally be completely aligned with such an overwhelming majority of what American people think of Afghanistan …is probably a tremendous relief to the American people.”

      https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/08/msnbcs-nicolle-wallace-95-american-people-will-agree-everything-joe-biden-said-afghanistan-speech-video/

    415. Tgca says:

      419 I meant MSNBC not CNN

    416. Tgca says:

      419 I meant MSNBC not CNN.

      She’s still a stoopid skank though.

    417. Tgca says:

      Here’s why Wallace is a stoopid skank.

      Yes, the vast majority of Americans agree we should not be in Afghanistan long-term, especially after 20 years but that is not the issue, nor the reason for Biden to be on TV tonight. The issue was the failed withdrawal causing mass chaos.

      I bet most Americans think abandoning allies to die is not something they agree with either.

    418. Robbie says:

      Not that anyone here cares what I think, but Joe Biden should resign. What’s taken place in Afghanistan is an absolute disgrace. The images of people falling off of planes were bad enough, but the speech he gave this afternoon was nauseating. He blamed everyone but himself. He chose to make this happen. And just to be clear, he set up a straw man. The argument was not “leave or fight for another 20 years”. The argument was leave without creating a self made calamity.

    419. Bitterlaw says:

      Robbie leaves a hanging curveball over the middle of the plate…..

    420. lisab says:

      jason says:

      When you can’t even BS Tapper….

      “The president said that the buck stopped with him, but in fact, this speech was full of finger-pointing and blame, especially for the Afghans,” Tapper said. “…He did not really get into or accept any blame for the catastrophic exit that we have been watching on television in the last several days.”
      —————————

      i bet you guys think the speech i posted in #320 is good now!

      his actual speech is a speech that will live in infamy!

    421. lisab says:

      Not that anyone here cares what I think, but Joe Biden should resign.
      ———————-

      not at all

      we were all waiting with ‘bated breath to find out your thoughts

    422. Phil says:

      You are right, Robbie. No one cares. You were on Trump’s ass daily for four years about everything and anything. Regarding Biden and his policies over the last seven months – the porous border, inflation, his race hustling, crime, appeasement with Iran and China, his energy policy nonsense – you haven’t had a damned thing to say. Crickets. A total pass.

      Go F yourself.

    423. Tgca says:

      Why you guys being mean to Robbie? He agrees with you on this issue.

      My only question to Robbie is I hope that wasn’t you flying the plane where folks were falling off.

    424. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Trafalgar Group poll conducted Sept 14-15; 1,084 likely voters:

      “The survey, conducted by The Trafalgar Group, found that 69 percent of polled Americans disapprove of Biden’s handling of the U.S.’s military presence in the war-torn country, with only 23 percent approving.
      When broken down by party, 48 percent of Democrats disapprove of the president’s handling of the situation, while almost 40 percent of those polled gave him positive marks.
      But the gap was much wider among Republicans: Nearly 89 percent said they disapprove of the job Biden is doing when it comes to Afghanistan, with only 7 percent saying they approve.”

    425. Phil says:

      What about indies?

    426. lisab says:

      now now … robbie finally accomplished something

      he and his allies worked tirelessly for four years to get trump replaced by biden

      and they managed to get thousands of women and men murdered in afghanistan

      good job!

    427. Wes says:

      At this point, the question becomes what trainwreck the Biden Administration will be responsible for next.

    428. Tgca says:

      429

      BS poll SDC!

      I posted earlier in 419 where MSNBC skank Nicole Wallace says 95% of Americans agree with Biden on Afghanistan.

    429. Wes says:

      I saw this on RRH. I can’t disagree.

    430. lisab says:

      At this point, the question becomes what trainwreck the Biden Administration will be responsible for next.
      ——————-
      assuming you mean a non-afghanistan item

      it will be the haiti relief and associated influx of refugees

    431. lisab says:

      cnn front page in inch high letters

      “Biden points finger at others for the unfolding crisis”

      msnbc front page, no top-line headline, but small headline

      “How much will Biden’s Afghanistan withdrawal hurt him?”

      fox news front page headline

      Alien gives Birth to Elvis’ Love Child

    432. Dylan says:

      436–No–it will be the total collapse of the US Dollar when everyone stops lending to the US and the world realizes that we are run by a bunch of clueless morons. we are 1/6th into the Biden presidency. There is so much more failure to come.

    433. lisab says:

      the cnn reporters certainly ate their wheaties today

    434. Wes says:

      I forgot to put the quote I was referring to in my previous post:

      Might? Oh for a mean tweet, $1.80 gas, and a competent foreign policy again.

    435. Dylan says:

      Look at the photo of Biden all alone at Camp David–It’s reminiscent of Kim Jong Un in North Korea propaganda photos. WTF, people

    436. lisab says:

      Look at the photo of Biden all alone at Camp David
      —————

      it seems sad, an old man all alone

      not a picture of a strong leader

    437. lisab says:

      i have an idea,

      why don’t we defund the military in afghanistan

      and send in some social workers to deescalate the situation?

    438. lisab says:

      speaking of philadelphia

      city employees are now required to

      double masks!

      i wish i was joking

    439. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The reporting on CNN has been generally critical of Biden’s actions in Afghanistan; but MSNBC is trying to do spin control for Biden.

    440. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Morning Consult polling, which only a few days ago said Biden’s favorable polling rose to 56%, give Biden bad numbers on his handling of Afghanistan:

      “The Aug. 13-16 poll was conducted as news broke over the weekend that Taliban advances into Kabul had forced Afghanistan’s president to flee and prompted Biden to send additional troops to the country to help secure the evacuation of U.S. and allied personnel, including from the American embassy.

      Just over a third of voters (36 percent) said they’d heard “a lot” about the Taliban taking control of parts of Afghanistan by the time the survey was concluded, but most seemed to be aware of the rocky American withdrawal: 57 percent of the electorate, including a 45 percent plurality of Democrats, said the exit is not going well.

      In turn, Biden gets poor marks on his handling of the issue: Half of voters (51 percent) said they disapprove of how he’s dealing with Afghanistan, including a majority of independents (54 percent) and 4 in 5 Republicans.

      Among Democrats, 53 percent approve of how Biden’s handling Afghanistan, far out of line with his average intraparty issue approval, which usually hovers between 70 and 80 percent”

    441. lisab says:

      Study Finds 92% Of Taliban Are Happy They Voted For Biden

      CNN Praises Taliban For Wearing Masks During Attack

      Kamala Harris Petitions Britney Spears’s Judge For Conservatorship Of Joe Biden

    442. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Latest Morning Consult poll (Aug 13-16) has Biden’s approval rating:
      51% Approve
      46% Disapprove

      Major drop from 56% approval.

    443. Bitterlaw says:

      Lisab still stealing from the Babylon Bee

    444. Cash Cow TM says:

      “Biden points finger at others for the unfolding crisis”

      And gives middle finger to millions of Ghannystan women and hundreds of thousands of Ghannystan-ese who worked with U.S. and allied forces during the last 20 years (including their families).

    445. NYCmike says:

      “Lisab still stealing from the Babylon Bee”

      -Glad you pointed this out.

      I knew where she gets the funny headlines from, but didn’t care enough to point it out each time.

      I figured, over time, she would see that she should give, at the least a “h/t” (hat-tip) to the original piece.

    446. NYCmike says:

      How did the daughter get away, Bitterlaw?

      My son seems to be doing well, several orientation events lined up all week. I did mention to him that some children chose the military, so that being home-sick wasn’t an option. Focus, engage and perform.

    447. NYCmike says:

      China will probably do well in Afghanistan. The Chicoms don’t give 2 craps about individuals, so they and the Taliban have that in common. As long as the heroin doesn’t get back to China, they won’t interfere with that.

    448. jason says:

      Not that anyone here cares what I think,”

      That is true.

      But no need to explain it, we know exactly what you think.

      Now GFY.

    449. NYCmike says:

      A guy on MSNBC went off on Brian Williams and the rest of the talking heads.

    450. Bitterlaw says:

      I really thought Jason would be the first one to roast Robbie. 10:13? Slacker.

    451. jason says:

      Sorry, Amoral Scumbag criticizing Biden is like Goebbels criticizing Hitler.

      He can wait 3 hours to have that pointed out.

    452. jason says:

      Biden says the buck stops with him.

      It stopped and then he went ahead and gave it to Trump and the Afghans and everyone else and then quickly washed his hands.

    453. jason says:

      Why you guys being mean to Robbie? He agrees with you on this issue.”

      BS. He owns Biden’s agenda and policies. He can’t run away from it.

      As Phil says, f–k him.

    454. lisab says:

      Transgender Taliban Leader Thanks Biden for Saying Transgender Terrorist Rights Are Human Rights

    455. lisab says:

      scary, one of the flights out of kabul

      https://i.redd.it/hofakptvtrh71.jpg

    456. Tgca says:

      462

      That is a sad picture. The desperation of those people leaving their homeland with just the clothes on their back and some holding their kids, leaving the rest of their families behind I assume is so tragic.

      This is awful! I hope the US can safely resettle all these people whether it be abroad or in the US. These people deserve to be let in the US before those coming over the southern border.

      I saw another report that there are tens of thousands of these folks that either supported or assisted the US and the former Afghan govt.

      I’m praying they all get out safely with their families now that the US had caused this humanitarian crisis.

    457. lisab says:

      This is awful! I hope the US can safely resettle all these people whether it be abroad or in the US.
      —————

      i suggest radnor pa

      great school system
      right next to a major city
      the people don’t mind paying an extra 10k in taxes
      and they are very woke

      perfect place

    458. Wes says:

      NYCmike says:
      August 16, 2021 at 10:24 pm
      A guy on MSNBC went off on Brian Williams and the rest of the talking heads.

      For the record, Brian Williams is the same guy whose daughter’s breakout acting role involved her receiving analingus.

      What a wonderful father.

    459. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The Trafalgar poll found that 60% of those polled “strongly disapproved” of Biden’s handling of the troop withdrawal.

      “Conducted between August 14 and 15, the Convention of States Action and Trafalgar Group survey found close to 70 percent of respondents do not approve of the president’s Afghanistan withdrawal handling. About 60 percent of the 1,084 individuals polled “strongly disapproved.”

      After one of the worst speeches by a president in history, Biden quickly retreated to his bunker at Camp David.

    460. lisab says:

      i bet cuomo is regretting resigning last week

      had he waited, he might have survived the scandal

    461. Wes says:

      So, basically, SDC, Biden just gave his version of Carter’s infamous malaise speech after his Administration’s version of the fall of Tehran.

      We really are back in the 1970s.

    462. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      ank J. Fleming@
      Guys, you’re all criticizing without understanding the situation: Biden has to use his vacation days or he loses them.

    463. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      The rumbling is that Biden requested Kamala Harris to stand by him during his speech, and she said no.

      Jack Posobiec
      “This isn’t just the Fall of Kabul. The entire leadership of the US govt disappeared today. A thousand narratives collapsed in realtime. DC theater gave way to reality. A generation of people around the world watched as the US govt was humiliated.”

    464. jason says:

      That is an iconic picture.

      I heard the audio of the pilot being asked how many people aboard and he thinks like 800 (ended up being 640) and then being told “good luck taking off”.

    465. Bitterlaw says:

      I have no issue if Afghans settle here. They value their families and education. We already have Indians, Pakistanis, and Iranians. Why not add Afghans?

    466. jason says:

      Breaking: Brian Williams declares that he was on that plane and that it took heavy Taliban fire.

    467. jason says:

      I agree. These people are not migrating to the US “in search of a better life”. They are under imminent threat of death in an emergency situation and are legitimate refugees.

      In addition we have an obligation to all of those translators and visa holders to get them out safely as promised.

    468. jason says:

      I asked Amos if he minded that some Afghans might settle in the area. He said the more English there are the more customers there will be at the farmer’s market so he is ok with it.

    469. jason says:

      Biden has to use his vacation days or he loses them.”

      That is true but I think since he “worked” 20 minutes yesterday they will extend his vacation by one day, it is only fair.

    470. jason says:

      Hillary says the Kabul scenes remind her of her own harrowing escape while being shot at in Bosnia.

    471. jason says:

      MSM shifting to Kamala?

      “Tapper then brought up serious concerns about Biden’s ability to lead America at all. “I’m left with some grave questions in my mind about Biden’s ability to lead our nation as commander-in-chief,”

    472. jason says:

      Newsome being recalled at 27% at Predictit.

    473. Gordon Allen says:

      Biden 45-54 and 27-45 in Rasmussen. Basically he’s down to the core Democrat vote which would be there for an Iguana.

    474. Bitterlaw says:

      I had a girl from Pakistan on my softball team this year. She never played before but watched hours of instructional videos to get ready for the season. She turned into a solid player. Send me some Afghans, too.

    475. jason says:

      Biden 45-54″

      Sorry, Silverhack has “adjusted” it to 48-48.

    476. Phil says:

      25th Amendment?

      Nope. Vacates VP position. Oops. There goes Democrats majority in the Senate and then bye bye 3.5 trillion dollar Democratic wish list bill. No 51-50 reconciliation.

      Harris’ pick for VP would need to be confirmed by the Senate. McConnell could drive a hard bargain. No confirmation without agreement that reconciliation goes bye bye.

      Of course that wouldn’t happen. One of Rinos like Romney or most certainly the Alaskan squish would break.

    477. jason says:

      Kamala’s numbers are worse than Biden’s, that is the problem.

    478. jason says:

      Biden boxed himself in with the promise to nominate a black woman. He was stuck with Kamala or Stacy Abrams or people nobody had heard of.

      He screwed the Dems by not having a strong heir to run in 2024 or 2028 but in a way he protected himself as there will be little appetite to replace him with someone that would start out more unpopular than he is.

    479. jason says:

      Phil brought up a good point.

      If Newsome loses the recall, Elder will be able to appoint the Senator that would replace Kamala.

    480. jason says:

      Assuming he wins. Lupita and I are supporting Caitlyn Jenner.

    481. Phil says:

      Yep. Her numbers are HORRIBLE.

      It’s why it will be Weekend at Bernie’s as long as Democrats can drag his lifeless body around and prop him up at the podium. Of course, it’s essentially what they’ve been doing from the campaign until now.

    482. Dylan says:

      And we have 3.5 more years of this MINIMUM and that’s assuming the GOP can actually win anything on a national level with all the institutionalized fraud. Perhaps with a supermajority that can override a veto—-but that’s not gonna happen.

    483. Phil says:

      Institutional fraud? What fraud? I heard Chuck Todd say there is no election fraud.

    484. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @Nate_Cohn
      The story for why Democrats aren’t any stronger is pretty well-known. They’ve lost ground among white no college and Hispanic voters. Their losses among Latinos not only rival their losses among white working class voters, but are more than enough to cancel demographic shifts

    485. Dylan says:

      491—How do we get out of this endless hopeless negative feedback loop of doom? Can you even construct a hypothetical path? (I can’t but that’s above my paygrade).

    486. lisab says:

      elizabeth warren being floated as harris’ vp

      so that there is some gravitas on the ticket

    487. Phil says:

      In the long run, no, Dylan. The left now controls all institutions from education to the corporate board rooms. Of course, in the short run my friends on this site tell us that the Republican takeover of the house in the 2022 solves all.

      Delusion…but it makes them feel better.

    488. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Deja vu to me, feels like Jimmy Carters 70’s. Inflation accelerating, spending out of control, Afghanistan gone after incompetence (iran in 70’s), gas prices going thru the roof, dependent on OPEC for oil, violent crime increasing, and on and on. Biden is a complete incompetent and like Obama’s SOD Gates stated, “Biden on the wrong side of every issue.” The country is sinking into a morass as our enemies strenghten and have lost complete respect for us. Obama was correct last year when he said not to “underestimate how much Biden can f—k things up”.”

    489. Phil says:

      Elizabeth Warren.

      Perfect.

      Lol

    490. Tgca says:

      Here’s the complete extraordinary 11 minute video of Matt Zeller explaining the gory details of the evacuation in Afghanistan and what is needed. It is heart-wrenching to watch and includes important details not included in previous releases yesterday.

      He calls Biden a liar and states there’s been bi-partisan effort since May in trying to get folks evacuated with no response from the WH on numerous requests.

      He details he has a list of 86,000 contacts who are at risk and 14,000 on a wait list to be evacuated.

      He explains they have a biometric system of all the people on these lists so there is no need to go through a laborious visa process to evacuate them as they know who are the good guys in Afghanistan that helped them.

      He claims that the Taliban now has this list as well and are comparing people to it, and that’s why folks won’t leave the airport because once they step out the gates, the Taliban is checking folks against this list and taking them away.

      He starts to break down towards the end especially relating how two Afghani saved his life and an email he received from one Afghani accepting his fate he will die but thanking America for 20 years of a better life. He is clearly emotionally distressed and gravely concerned because he believes all these folks, 86,000, will be hunted down and killed for working with the US and this is weighing on his conscience enormously.

      He was a Dem supporter and voted for Biden but repeatedly refers to him and his administration as lying, doing nothing, and misleading.

      https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/army-vet-takes-a-flamethrower-to-bidens-surrender-speech/

    491. Tgca says:

      As I posted yesterday, we owe it to these Afghanis who supported us in the war to bring them all to a safe place, and yes, that includes the US even if it’s 86,000 of them as Matt Zeller noted (see post 497).

      We don’t leave our comrades who fought by our side to die at the hands of vicious enemies when we can make the difference and save them.

      Screw the politics and optics of this! Do the right thing and save these people.

      We have one shot at this! I’m praying this happens. Congress should step in immediately and force the WH hand because this has impact on the ability of our nation for security and intelligence gathering in the future.

      If not, then the US does not deserve to ever have any support in the future.

    492. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil – You claim that posters think that Republicans retaking the House in 2022 “solves all.” I do not believe that anybody said that. Maybe you can provide the names of those posters.

    493. jason says:

      Maybe you can provide the names of those posters.”

      Can I help?

      Bitterlaw comes to mind.

      You have stated many times that “you have seen this all before” and that “in the past the same doomsayers said this or that” blah, blah, blah… so the obvious assumption is you think the next election will vacate what is going on.

      You also insist on mocking those that think there is nothing normal or transitory about the (permanent) changes the Dems are trying to institute as “doomsayers” or “prophets of doom” or whatever.

      So Phil’s claim is certainly valid as it regards your comments here.

      I am glad to be of assistance to answer your question, no need to thank me.

    494. jason says:

      Geezus.

      “In addition to Afghan(s) falling from the plane: “The pilots declared an emergency when they could not put their landing gear up. The crew diverted & landed in a nearby 3rd country, & some human remains were found in the wheel well when it was inspected.”

    495. Bitterlaw says:

      So Jason could not find a post but had to make assumptions about posts I never made to make a point I never made. I also never said that what is happening is normal. Maybe Jason can manufacture posts to also make that lie stick.

    496. jason says:

      NEW: 5000 to 10,000 Americans remain in Afghanistan near Kabul, according to Pentagon Press Sec. John Kirby.”

      So they don’t even have a list compiled?

      How stupid is that.

    497. Phil says:

      I’ll look forward to that Pennsylvania Senate win in your state in 2022, bitter.

      Lol

    498. lisab says:

      I am glad to be of assistance to answer your question, no need to thank me.
      ——————-

      no need perhaps … but rest assured your work is appreciated

    499. lisab says:

      So they don’t even have a list compiled?
      —————–

      the taliban won’t be there for months, so no rush

    500. jason says:

      “So Jason could not find a post but had to make assumptions about posts I never made to make a point I never made.”

      Ok, the dogs over at the SPCA are salivating already..

      I get $100 for every post I find of you saying something about how in the past people predicted doom for the R party and it didn’t happen, and $50 for every post where you call someone a doomsayer or like description for suggesting what is going on is not politics as usual.

      If I can’t find any I donate $500 to your favorite charity.

      Deal?

    501. Phil says:

      No list? About as stupid as abandoning our air base there before an evacuation of our people could take place.

      On the good side there have been no mean tweets from the WH.

    502. lisab says:

      some in the press are complaining that biden did not take any questions

      ummmmmmmmm … you did not ask him any real questions while making him president, you asked him what kind of ice cream do you like

      even cnn said, hate him all you want, but trump would still be answering questions in a press conference

    503. lisab says:

      On the good side there have been no mean tweets from the WH.
      ——————————-

      c’mon man … nothing to see here … let’s dance!

      https://youtu.be/hOEMsqWx4nE

    504. Phil says:

      True, Lisa. Love him, hate him….no President in history has ever given the access to the press that Trump provided.

    505. jason says:

      The Zogby poll asked about the situation in Afghanistan and found that more support his decision than not. It found that 49% support Biden’s action to leave the country, while 37% opposed it.”

      Fake poll.

      Of course that is not the right question.

    506. jason says:

      It is like the infrastructure support BS the Dems are touting.

      People support infrastructure, but how many think child care and climate change are infrastructure.

    507. jason says:

      Don’t tell Bitter yet, but he owes the dogs about $850 already.

    508. jason says:

      McConnell throws Biden under the bus…

      “So against everyone’s advice, including the president … the current president’s own military, he decided to withdraw, and withdraw rapidly. What we have seen is an unmitigated disaster, a stain on the reputation of the United States of America. Every terrorist around the world, in Syria, in Iraq, in Yemen, in Africa, are cheering the defeat of the United States military by a terrorist organization in Afghanistan,” McConnell said.

      McConnell went on to claim he’d seen them himself.

      “It won’t surprise you I was in a number of these briefings over the last couple of months, it was pretty obvious to me what was gonna happen,” McConnell said during a press briefing. “I’ve predicted it, and I’m not in the intelligence business, that the Taliban would be in power by September the 11th, which is a date of historical significance.”

      “Just based on what we were hearing in these briefings, I know for a fact that the President’s military leaders argued against this decision,” McConnell continued. “I think the President felt strongly about this, obviously; he overruled his own military leaders to do it, and he owns it.”

    509. Phil says:

      So what happens if the Taliban starts scooping up American hostages? I mean, what exactly is there to stop them? Fear of Biden? LMAO

    510. jason says:

      You would think the state dept would have a solid idea of how many Americans are in Afghanistan, certainly a better idea than 5000 to 10000.

    511. Bitterlaw says:

      A deal based upon your interpretations, translations and mischaracterizations? No deal.

    512. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil – Pennsylvania predictions are not your area of expertise. Just ask President Clinton. She really appreciated your prediction that PA would never vote for the Republican nominee for President.

    513. Phil says:

      I bet the Taliban has an accurate list of Americans…and are looking for them as we speak.

    514. lisab says:

      “It won’t surprise you I was in a number of these briefings over the last couple of months, it was pretty obvious to me what was gonna happen,”
      —————

      then why didn’t you say?

    515. Phil says:

      Still using that one, bitter? Newsflash. A Republican hasn’t won anything of consequence in your state since. Oh, and in case you haven’t heard, you have a different voting system in place in Pennsylvania these days. I heard it worked out great in 2020. Philly counts the votes three days after the election once they know how many they need to win. Those secure mail in ballots you know.

      Oops, no problem. I forgot that you assured us Philly Democrats only cheat in primary elections. I guess we’re good then.

    516. lisab says:

      biden to the women of afghanistan

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZqfxoCYfxw

    517. Bitterlaw says:

      Still mad you embarrassed yourself, Phil? I said they cheated in 2020 so you are wrong again. Before that, most cases of voter fraud were in Democratic primaries for local and state elections because the winner of the nomination did not need to cheat with a 7-1 or more advantage at the polls.

    518. lisab says:

      I said they cheated in 2020
      ———————————-

      so go on the record

      are you actually saying that the election in pennsylvania was stolen from trump in 2020?

      (or are you just being a weasel and saying some fraud took place but not enough to steal the election from trump?)

    519. Phil says:

      Mad? About what?

      I will repeat again, Republicans haven’t won anything of consequence in your state since and your election security is a joke. If you are a Republican you ain’t winning anything there.

      Shall we revisit your “man up and vote” take on the Senate filibuster? No? I didn’t think so.

    520. lisab says:

      bitterlaw the joe biden of hhr!

    521. Tgca says:

      I’m so tired of the politicians running around saying Biden “owns it.” WTF does that mean in the scheme of things right now?

      We need politicians to take a position and pressure Biden to ensure we evacuate all Americans and those that actively supported us there that wish to be evacuated.

      We know who these people are. We have databases with their information and accordingly even biometrics on them. They supported us and we owe it to them.

      If that means evacuating roughly 100,000 people so be it. The Taliban will stand down and not attack the US because they fear the ramifications.

      This is a far greater crisis than the southern border. Chances are these supporters, if evacuated to the US would become good citizens.

      Nothing else should matter right now. This is our biggest crisis right now that needs leadership and the GOP needs to assist too and not just stand by hoping this inflicts pain on the Dems for political purposes at the cost of tens of thousands of lives.

      We are talking about the lives of thousands of people who worked with us to achieve our objectives. I don’t see how this can’t be addressed ASAP.

      We owe this to them.

    522. Bitterlaw says:

      Let’s revisit it, Phil. I changed my position on the filibuster. You can never change your laughable prediction on PA that was proven wrong within months. Have you predicted the guaranteed 2020 Democratic Nominee for President yet? Funny how you never predicted it would be Biden but you were so certain about others.

    523. Wes says:

      Phil, since 2016, PA has had six non-judicial statewide elections. Republicans didn’t contest either the Senate race or the gubrnatorial race seriously in 2018, so obviously Dems took those easily. In 2020, in addition to the presidential election, there were three row offices up. Republicans won two of the three row offices, including unseating an incumbent.

      Thus, while, yes, your statement about PA elections is true, it makes PA sound like CA. In fact, if we go by elections Republicans have actually invested in in the Keystone State since then, the GOP is 2-2.

      2022 is the inverse of 2018: a Dem midterm. Somehow I doubt Republicans are going to close up shop there while Biden is in the White House as they did in 2018 when Trump was.

      In fact, Sean Parnell, an Afghanistan vet running on the GOP side, has already begun using the debacle currently happening in that country to break out in the field. Meanwhile, Dems are having a clown-car primary with the top two candidates ripping each other to shreds.

      At worst, it’s premature to say Dems will certainly win the Senate race there next year.

    524. Bitterlaw says:

      Lisab has been a relentless bitch towards me for more than a year. Actually, far longer than that since I know her condolence post was just part of her act to gain support from those she fools at HHR who think she agrees with them while she laughs at them.

    525. jason says:

      A deal based upon your interpretations, translations and mischaracterizations? No deal.”

      Translation: jason was right.

    526. Wes says:

      I have to admit I didn’t think Democrats were this desperate:

      https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/08/17/lawsuit-filed-to-stop-the-recall-election-in-california-n409471

      Newsom must really be in trouble for this kind of action.

    527. jason says:

      I forgot that you assured us Philly Democrats only cheat in primary elections. ”

      Heh, how did that stupid “assurance” turn out?

      But don’t worry Phil, once the Rs “win” in 2022, they will eliminate all Dem cheating in PA.

    528. lisab says:

      in #526 you said, “I said they cheated in 2020”

      it is a simple question,

      do you think the dems stole the pennsylvania election from trump through fraud?

      or

      are you trying to be a weasel and have it both ways by saying that some fraud took place, but not enough to steal the election in pennsylvania from trump in 2020?

    529. lisab says:

      But don’t worry Phil, once the Rs “win” in 2022, they will eliminate all Dem cheating in PA
      ————————

      well bitter has not said whether he thinks if the election in pennsylvania in 2020 was stolen from trump

    530. lisab says:

      bitter is planning for all contingencies 🙂

    531. jason says:

      OPEC likes high oil prices and tells Biden to pound sand.

      They should actually thank him for cutting US production so they can earn more profits, the ungrateful bastards.

      “In a stinging rejection issued Monday, the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) denied Biden’s request for more oil, saying that its member countries “and its allies, including Russia” — conveniently — think markets “do not need more oil than they plan to release in the coming months, despite U.S. pressure to add supplies to check an oil price rise,” according to sources who spoke to Reuters. “

    532. jason says:

      To be fair to Bitter, he did say the PA Dems cheated in 2020.

      But he still thinks his vote counts.

    533. lisab says:

      he did say the PA Dems cheated in 2020.
      ——————–

      yes, but so did robbie and corey …

      but they justify it by saying it was not enough to actually steal the election from trump.

      so bitter, do you think the pennsylvania election in 2020 was stolen from trump through fraud?

    534. jason says:

      Biden only “won” PA by 80k votes (and the Libertarian got 80k votes) out of over 7 million cast, so if the Dems cheated then you can bet the election was stolen.

    535. jason says:

      yes, but so did robbie and corey …

      but they justify it by saying it was not enough to actually steal the election from trump.”

      How could they say that if 42k votes in 3 states would have changed the outcome?

      I don’t think either the Biden Troll or Amoral Scumbag admitted to any cheating.

    536. Bitterlaw says:

      Translation – Jason will not post any of the alleged $850 worth of posts he claims make his point.

    537. jason says:

      Danger tourist? I don’t think of it as a growth industry.”

      I don’t know.

      There are probably people thinking of spending the weekend in Philadelphia.

    538. jason says:

      Translation – Jason will not post any of the alleged $850 worth of posts he claims make his point.”

      I certainly will if you pay up the $850.

    539. jason says:

      C’mon man, think of the dogs.

    540. lisab says:

      i don’t think either the Biden Troll or Amoral Scumbag admitted to any cheating
      ———-

      oh they did, because an outright denial would be obviously untrue

      but by saying, any cheating was not significant enough to change the outcome, they get to have it both ways.

      by saying there was some cheating that can mean only a few ballots were stolen — when they speak to never trumpers

      or

      it could mean tens of thousands of ballots that stole the election.

      but by not taking a clear side they can let the listener hear what they want to hear, instead of what they actually mean

      i doubt bitterlaw has the courage to actually say

      a.) the Pennsylvania election was stolen from trump in 2020 by fraud, because he would lose the woke vote

      or

      b.) the Pennsylvania election was not stolen from trump in 2020– although i think that is his actual view

    541. lisab says:

      there is a yes minister episode on this very subject

      on how to say something so you can later say,

      you misinterpreted me, yes i said they cheated, but i did not mean by enough to steal the election

    542. lisab says:

      it is just like when he says he gas always voted for the republican

      but you guys never follow up by asking if he thinks trump is a republican

    543. Wes says:

      Hasn’t Bitter repeatedly said he voted for Trump even in 2016 despite his personal antipathy?

    544. Phil says:

      Yeah, bitter did vote for Trump twice so Iet’s give him that. You couldn’t expect much more from a woke, attorney from the Philly suburbs. In voting for Trump he was going against his grain.

    545. lisab says:

      maybe … but did he say he voted for trump for president?

      he could have voted for trump for school board

      and technically he could still say he voted for trump

      and … for which trump? lara trump?

      it is an easy straightforward question.

      does bitterlaw think the Pennsylvania election on November 6th 2020 was stolen from donald trump or not?

    546. lisab says:

      most people can answer the question without ducking it for an hour

    547. Wes says:

      Lisa:

      1) Since Bitter claimed to have voted for Trump in 2016, I’m guessing he voted for him for President.

      2) Did anyone know who Lara Trump was in 2016? I doubt Bitter did enough research to vote for a female relative of Trump, especially since he used the pronoun “him” rather than “her” to refer to the person he voted for.

    548. lisab says:

      yes, you are guessing

      he is a lawyer

      parsing words is his job

    549. lisab says:

      of course … he does get “laid off” a lot

      but he is still technically a lawyer

    550. Wes says:

      I’m also applying Occam’s Razor.

      It would take a hell of a lot more effort than Bitter seems to want to invest in the Trump family to vote for Lara Trump for school board in 2016 than to vote for Donald Trump for President on a ballot featuring the Donald’s preprinted name.

    551. lisab says:

      I’m also applying Occam’s Razor.
      ————————————

      that doesn’t work with lawyers who want others to misinterpret them so well

      remember, “i did not have sex with that woman, miss lewinski. (well … not today)”

    552. lisab says:

      in the same way, bitterlaw saying he thinks their was some cheating

      does not in any way mean he thinks the election in pennsylvania in 2020 was stolen from trump

      it could mean he thinks there were a few instances of cheating, but not enough to affect the election.

    553. Bitterlaw says:

      After being a relentless bitch towards me for years, lisab now wants to have a discussion. Zzzzzzzzzz

      I would rather talk to Chekote. She was a bitch, too, but honest about it. Lisab is playing all of you for fools.

    554. lisab says:

      sooooooooooo … you are ducking the question

      which answers it

    555. Phil says:

      I would be interested to know how I am being played for a fool.

    556. dylan says:

      Where are the leaks from this White House about how incapacitated Biden is? Surely someone has seen something extremely alarming. Man, these dems sure keep a tight lip on anything negative. Looks like no heads are going to roll, in the USA at least. Plenty will in Afghanistan

    557. lisab says:

      Looks like no heads are going to roll
      ———————————-

      unlikely

      a wannabe congressman like bitter won’t even say whether he thinks the pennsylvania election in 2020 was stolen from trump or not

      the state he wants to be a congressman for

      do you think any experienced government toady will admit to being responsible for anything?

      “no one told me the taliban would take over kabul (over this past weekend)”

    558. NYCmike says:

      jason says:
      August 17, 2021 at 10:29 am

      Phil brought up a good point.

      If Newsome loses the recall, Elder will be able to appoint the Senator that would replace Kamala.

      -Why would Elder need to replace Kamala?

      She isn’t a Senator anymore……last I checked…..

    559. NYCmike says:

      “Lisab is playing all of you for fools.”

      -Why do you keep writing this?

      How is lisab “playing” anyone?

    560. NYCmike says:

      Looks like Phil asked the same question…..good job Phil!

    561. Bitterlaw says:

      Play your games, Google Queen. I said there was fraud.

      Phil – Lisab wants you to believe that she is a Classic Liberal and adherent to John Locke while also being a (utopian) Socialist and Union representative of a Union that pushes Critical Race Theory. She claims that she hides her true beliefs from her co-workers. If you read her posts (not the copy and paste ones from the Bee) you will see that she just parrots what others say. She is a Massachusetts liberal laughing at you.

    562. NYCmike says:

      Ca$h Cow,

      I have been meaning to speak with you about #571!

      HHR may need to get a collection together so that Walt and Miss Daisy (supervisor) can purchase one for you!

    563. Phil says:

      Ok, bitter.

      Let’s ask her.

      Is that true, Lisa?

    564. Bitterlaw says:

      Good idea, Phil. The person lying to you and playing you for a fool is going to admit it.

    565. lisab says:

      I said there was fraud.
      ——————————

      yes, in any large election thereis a 99.99% chance someone voted twice or someone removed a ballot or two

      that is not the VERY SIMPLE QUESTION

      do you think the 2020 presidential election was stolen from trump through cheating?

    566. lisab says:

      that is not the VERY SIMPLE QUESTION

      do you think the 2020 presidential election was stolen from trump through cheating?
      ——————

      in Pennsylvania of course …

    567. Phil says:

      Just trying to put her on the record, bitter. If she ignores my question we’ll have our answer. Will we not?

    568. NYCmike says:

      Bitterlaw,

      Ignore her. Please.

      Stop the whining.

    569. lisab says:

      Is that true, Lisa?
      ———————

      yes, i am a classical liberal who thinks john locke is the most important foundational philosopher of democracy, and i endorse his 2nd treatise on government

      as far as governing such a democracy is concerned, i endorse the utopian socialist views of bf skinner, who endorsed a behavioralist view of governing, including using a competitive market based economy

      and between the two philosophies, i believe locke is the more important

    570. Bitterlaw says:

      You forfeited you’re right to discuss anything with me by being a relentless bitch. You have called me a failure and loser. You said I am unqualified and unfit to serve in Congress. You also said I am not fit to be a teacher or coach. You have also said I am crazy. Why would I answer your questions? As people love to say at HHR, you reap what you sow. GFY

    571. lisab says:

      oh, and yes, i don’t discuss politics with my colleagues, because i would face harassment

      and i am a member of a teachers union in minnesota

      i personally do not support any race base ideology, including crt,

      i think it is fair to say the nea does, and some in the aft do, but we don’t teach crt in my school district

    572. lisab says:

      You forfeited you’re right to discuss anything with me by being a relentless bitch.
      —————-

      a yes or no is not a discussion

      why are you afraid to answer?

    573. Bitterlaw says:

      Irony Meter explodes as lisab does not answer Phil’s question, ignores her role as a union rep pushing CRT and also does not address her parroting of other’s post while mocking them.

    574. Bitterlaw says:

      I was typing while lisab was lying to all of you. Sue me.

    575. lisab says:

      You have called me a failure and loser.
      —————-

      true

      You said I am unqualified and unfit to serve in Congress.
      ————————–

      i think you are under selling that, but on balance it is a true statement … if understated

      You also said I am not fit to be a teacher or coach.
      ——————————–
      i don’t believe i ever said you were unfit to be a coach, i just said you were a losing coach,

      You have also said I am crazy.
      ——————————–

      crazy is an imprecise term … but yes, you seem to have “issues”

    576. lisab says:

      i don’t push crt and said so

      and as far as mocking, you’d have to produce an example for me to comment …

    577. lisab says:

      and now you answer a question …

      do you think the 2020 presidential election in pennsylvania was stolen from trump through cheating?

    578. lisab says:

      note, phil asked me a question and i answered immediately

      bitterlaw won’t even answer a simple question, and yet he wants to be a congressman

    579. Gordon Allen says:

      Isn’t not answering a question a condition precedent to being a Congressman? At least now?
      And why we’re in such trouble?

    580. lisab says:

      And why we’re in such trouble?
      ———————————–

      one of my points for him being unfit and unqualified

      this is NOT the time to send someone with zero experience being successful in any field of endeavor to lead the country

      who gets “laid off” the week before christmas and thinks,

      “hmmmmmmmm … my boss has a point, insurance law is too small for me, i should not be interpreting a narrow scope of laws … i should be making laws … and not just for my county or state …

      i should be in the national congress of the most powerful country on earth!

      that’s the ticket … pennsylvania law is too small for me! DC here i come!”

    581. lisab says:

      and he still won’t answer the question …

      now, i get it, you don’t like someone asking questions from a potential rino congressman

      but

      just from a democracy point of view, candidates should give direct answers to direct questions questions ESPECIALLY from those they don’t like

      otherwise you get, “what’s your favourite ice cream” type questions

    582. Tgca says:

      535. Wes

      I read this debate last week where these 2 lefty Berkeley professors who argued voter disenfranchisement but Jonathan Turley, law professor at Georgetown, rebutted their argument saying that this is not an election to elect a majority candidate and it’s often the case where elections are won by a candidate with a plurality but not a majority.

      The majority requirement only applies in the case of the recall, a simple yes or no vote, and a vote not to recall is not a vote to elect a specific candidate.

      Also, Newsom is not on the ticket because it’s a recall election and would not make sense to have him both being recalled and a candidate at the same time because it defeats the purpose of a recall election, permitted under CA law so it’s a real stretch.

      Turley thinks this will go nowhere.

    583. Bitterlaw says:

      note, phil asked me a question and i answered immediately by lying and dodging the most significant parts of the question.

      fixed it

    584. Bitterlaw says:

      Don’t sell yourself short, lisab. I hate you. Saying I don’t like you really takes away from your well-earned reputation.

    585. Bitterlaw says:

      Damn. Tim Tebow was cut. I really did want him to succeed as a tight end.

    586. lisab says:

      Don’t sell yourself short, lisab. I hate you.
      —————

      i’m sure you hate anyone who asks you a direct question

      which you still don’t have the courage to answer

    587. Tgca says:

      562

      Did someone say Chekote?

      I <3 Chekote!

      I will always be her little gnat.

    588. Bitterlaw says:

      In order to release HHR from your hijacking of the thread for your F’ed up vendetta against me:

      There was fraud in Pennsylvania in the 2020 Presidential election. I do not know if it was enough to steal the election from Trump but it was likely enough. Anybody who claims they “know” does not understand the difference between “knowledge” and “speculation.”

      Now, answer your own question. GFY

    589. Tgca says:

      Thix Hundwid Bishes!

      Thix Hundwid I thay!

    590. Bitterlaw says:

      DC

      People usually ask Yes or No questions because they know the answer is more complex than that.

    591. NYCmike says:

      Bitterlaw,

      Do you have to go to the bathroom?

    592. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca – Are you trying to feed a stereotype of how gay men speak? Why? If not, please explain it.

    593. NYCmike says:

      Tee hee hee hee

    594. NYCmike says:

      I thought Tgca was speaking like Marco Rubio…..

    595. Bitterlaw says:

      I know the joke NYC is trying to set up.

    596. lisab says:

      so just to be sure we understand you, and put you on the record

      you are saying that it is

      LIKELY

      that the election in pennsylvania in 2020 was stolen from trump through cheating and fraud?

      is that a correct interpretation?

    597. Tgca says:

      595

      Tebow cut?

      Tight end?

      TMI! TMI!

      I remind all this is a family “G-rated” site so need to get into these gory details.

      TYVM!!!

    598. Tgca says:

      603

      It’s Lil Marco Woo-bee-oh speak.

    599. Bitterlaw says:

      is that a correct interpretation?

      If you are incapable of reading comprehension, you should find another profession. Now, answer your own question about whether the election was stolen from Trump.

    600. lisab says:

      so does that meantebow is like chuck conners?

    601. lisab says:

      do you think the 2020 election in pennsylvania was stolen from trump via cheating and/or fraud?

      that seems like a pretty straightforward question, you either think it was, or you don’t think it was.

    602. Dylan says:

      Does anyone here think the Afghanistan debacle makes the passage of any of these massive inflationary spending bills less likely? Perhaps Manchin and Sinema will sink them now?

    603. Bitterlaw says:

      you either think it was, or you don’t think it was.

      So answer your own question.

    604. Bitterlaw says:

      Dylan – It may delay the bills. More likely, the Democrats will find a way to pretend some of the money is going to help Afghan refugees screwed over by Biden.

    605. lisab says:

      is that a correct interpretation?

      If you are incapable of reading comprehension, you should find another profession.
      ————————————–

      well again, you are a lawyer and one to use language to obfuscate,

      is the interpretation i offered in #607 correct?

      i don’t want to misquote you

    606. lisab says:

      yes

    607. Wes says:

      Tgca, The Creeping Flesh (1973) starring Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee. Thoughts on it?

    608. NYCmike says:

      I understood Bitterlaw perfectly, lisab.

    609. Bitterlaw says:

      I answered your question.

    610. Bitterlaw says:

      NYC – I wanted to watch The Sure Thing to show my daughter a classic 80s college movie. It is not on any of our streaming services. Too bad.

    611. lisab says:

      I understood Bitterlaw perfectly
      ————————-

      you think you do …

      but the answer to the question, if my interpretation of his words is correct, would have been simply

      “no”

      which he did not say

      why did it take him so long to even come up with that answer?

    612. lisab says:

      how can he be trusted to represent the people if he goes to such lengths to avoid answering and/or obscure his positions when asked simple questions?

    613. Bitterlaw says:

      Damn. I lost the Massachusetts utopian Socialist vote.

    614. lisab says:

      and the vote of people who want qualified and fit candidates

    615. Tgca says:

      618. Wes

      I don’t think I’ve seen that one. I’m awful remembering titles so I looked it up and the plot isn’t ringing a bell with me.

      Of course, I see it’s got Christopher Lee in it, who made a good more sophisticated 20th century Dracula without all the melodrama of Bela Lugosi, though I still think Bella’s original 1931 Dracula is amazing film and its in my film collection.

    616. lisab says:

      how about Innocent Blood (1992)

      a great bad movie

    617. NYCmike says:

      The Sure Thing……..dang, I know the movie cover, but don’t recall the movie……Ill have to find it again. My wife will probably know it, and rent it from the library.

    618. Bitterlaw says:

      NYC – John Cusack and Daphne Zuniga are college students who go cross country. They can’t stand each other. But it”s the 80s So you know how it ends.

    619. NYCmike says:

      Watched the trailer……now I remember it…..J Esposito……she broke my heart about a month after we saw it…..I must have blocked it out!

    620. Tgca says:

      Wes

      The last few nights I’ve been watching some Gene Hackman films. He is one of my all time fav actors and his movie roles have been so diverse. He’s played everything to good guy, bad guy, comedies, westerns, thrillers, crime drama, etc.

      I think I’ve seen almost all his movies from the 70s onward but every now and then I like to go back and watch different genres.

      I just watched some spy thrillers and crime drama this week: Narrow Margin, The Target, The Package…and tonight I’m thinking of Extreme Measures…unless I tune in for the LisaB and Bitter show which can be equally entertaining.

    621. Tgca says:

      629

      What happened to John Cusack? He seems crazy now.

      True story. I went on a date with a John Cusack look-alike in the the late 80s down by the Jersey Shore. I’m not joking! He was the spitting images of him.

      I remember he was some kind of toy sales or marketing guy because he had all these toys in his car. He was a bit shy too I recall…and he smoked too. That’s all I remember.

      But he lived too far from me so I don’t know what ever became of him. Maybe a stunt double for John Cusack? Hmmm…

      Maybe he was the real John Cusack and was doing research for a gay epic film or something and I was his character study. Hmmm…

    622. Wes says:

      Bitterlaw, The Sure Thing is on YouTube for free.

    623. Wes says:

      You’re missing out, Tg. The Creeping Flesh is a creepy movie about either the resurrection of a being of pure evil or a man’s descent into madness depending on one’s interpretation of the final scene.

      It and Horror Express (1972) are a pair above-average movies Lee and Cushing costarred in at the time.

    624. lisab says:

      tgca,

      what is candidate bitterlaw’s position on abortion?

      would he vote for a bill that restricted abortion to say the first trimester?

    625. Bitterlaw says:

      Maybe it was my friend from high school. He looked like John Cusack.

    626. Tgca says:

      636

      Was he a homo?

    627. Bitterlaw says:

      He was gay. Homo is your term.

    628. Tgca says:

      638

      Homo = gay

      It’s one of the 68+ genders in the LGBTQIA2S+ spectrum.

    629. Bitterlaw says:

      I guess it is like blacks can call each other a name that nobody else can use.

    630. Tgca says:

      640

      …and what name would that be?

    631. Bitterlaw says:

      Tgca is channeling his inner lisab.

    632. jason says:

      If Newsome loses the recall, Elder will be able to appoint the Senator that would replace Kamala.

      -Why would Elder need to replace Kamala?

      She isn’t a Senator anymore……last I checked…..”

      Good question.

      I posted that at 10:29, so I can’t blame the 3 martini lunch.

      It could be related to years of 3 martini lunches.

    633. jason says:

      Does anyone here think the Afghanistan debacle makes the passage of any of these massive inflationary spending bills less likely? Perhaps Manchin and Sinema will sink them now?”

      1) Rats exit the sinking ship

      2) Rats try to save the sinking ship

      Since I don’t know which is more likely, I will have to pass on the question.

    634. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “President Joe Biden’s approval rating dropped by 7 percentage points and hit its lowest level so far as the U.S.-backed Afghan government collapsed over the weekend in an upheaval that sent thousands of civilians and Afghan military allies fleeing for their safety, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll.

      The national opinion poll, conducted on Monday, found that 46% of American adults approved of Biden’s performance in office, the lowest recorded in weekly polls that started when Biden took office in January.

      It is also down from the 53% who felt the same way in a similar Reuters/Ipsos poll that ran on Friday.”

    635. Wes says:

      Impossible, SDC. We’ve repeatedly heard from a regular poster here–whom I like despite his apocalyptic philosophy regarding elections–Biden can’t drop below 50% because of cheerleading media.

    636. Bitterlaw says:

      Is that the same poster who said VP Harris has terrible poll numbers but does not explain why the MSM doesn’t keep her numbers artificially high?

    637. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      645. “About 44% of respondents said they thought Biden has done a “good job” in Afghanistan. In comparison, 51% praised the way former presidents Donald Trump and Barack Obama handled the war.

      Approval of Biden’s handling of Afghanistan is even lower than that of former President George W. Bush, who ordered the Afghanistan invasion and entrenched the United States in the costly and ultimately futile effort to foster new leadership in the country.

      About 47% of Americans felt that Bush did a good job in Afghanistan.”

    638. Wes says:

      641.

      Tg, I think Blazing Saddles answered that question:

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IZT7xLjxuhs

    639. Bitterlaw says:

      I agree that the MSM cheerleads and covers for Biden. But why don’t do as much for Harris?

    640. Tgca says:

      638

      Ask your friend if he remembers meeting a really hot sweet smart humble guy in the late 80s…I think in Asbury Park bar.

    641. Bitterlaw says:

      Sure. I’ll get right on it.

    642. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      645. “Yet a smaller majority – 51% – also agreed that “it would have been worth it for the United States to leave troops in Afghanistan another year,” and 50% wanted to send troops back into the country to fight the Taliban”

      The next post will be a shocker.

    643. Tgca says:

      Thanks! I appreciate that. Maybe long lost love will bloom again thanks to Bitter.

    644. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      645. The Reuters/Ipsos poll had a Democratic bias:

      “The Reuters/Ipsos poll was conducted online, in English, throughout the United States. It gathered responses from 947 American adults, including 403 Democrats and 350 Republicans. The results have a credibility interval, a measure of precision, of 4 percentage points.

      The Ipsos online snap poll gathered responses from 1,000 people, including 443 Democrats and 247 Republicans. It has a credibility interval of about 4 percentage points.”

    645. jason says:

      I agree that the MSM cheerleads and covers for Biden. But why don’t do as much for Harris?”

      They do.

      She would never even be considered for VP if it wasn’t the MSM.

      And even now her popularity is much higher than it should be.

      Bitter once again runs interference for the woke, partisan, biased and corrupt MSM.

    646. jason says:

      why the MSM doesn’t keep her numbers artificially high?”

      Hello?

      Her number ARE artificially high.

    647. jason says:

      Bitter will ask where is the post where he denies the influence of the MSM in 3, 2, 1.

    648. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason once again twists and interprets what I posted to fit his false narrative about me. It is sad to see his open resentment towards me because he will never rank as highly as a Founding A-hole. You would think an A-hole would appreciate being number 2.

    649. NYCmike says:

      “It is sad to see his open resentment towards me because he will never rank as highly as a Founding A-hole. You would think an A-hole would appreciate being number 2.”

      -HEH!

    650. Phil says:

      Biden is at 46? Just gives you an idea how badly he’s bungled Afghanistan. A Democrat has really got to F it up to get below 50 with the daily blow job he gets from the media. That takes some doing. Of course with the way he screwed up Afghanistan this week, he’s lucky he has the Pom Pom waving cheerleaders in the MSM humping his leg or he’d be at 39. Lol

      I hope it doesn’t happen, but I wonder what his number will be if the Taliban grease a number of Americans before they can get out – or decide to make hostages of some of the five to ten thousand Americans still there. Morning Joe, Colbert, skanks on the View, Chuck Todd and company will really have their work cut out for them then.

    651. jason says:

      All A-holes are no. 2.

      GFY.

    652. jason says:

      “Is that the same poster who said VP Harris has terrible poll numbers but does not explain why the MSM doesn’t keep her numbers artificially high?”

      “I agree that the MSM cheerleads and covers for Biden. But why don’t do as much for Harris?”

      Bitter mocks those that point out the MSM bias and then pretends the MSM doesn’t cover for Harris.

      But somehow that is “twisting and interpreting” what he says.

      I love it here.

    653. Phil says:

      BTW, anyone have the Party ID on the Reuters poll?

    654. jason says:

      Biden can’t drop below 50% because of cheerleading media.”

      Nobody said that.

      What he said was that the cheerleading MSM keeps Biden’s approval a lot higher than it should be.

      I am sorry if admitting that doesn’t fit your narrative.

    655. Phil says:

      I’d say the MSM is worth 7 points to any Democrat….minimum.

    656. NYCmike says:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoUKhexXFM8

      -“And you want to be my latex salesman!”

      Cheers!

    657. jason says:

      Phil says:
      August 17, 2021 at 11:22 pm

      I’d say the MSM is worth 7 points to any Democrat….minimum.”

      Be careful, Bitter will be terribly offended.

    658. lisab says:

      Taliban conducts mostly peaceful beheadings, rapes after retaking Afghanistan

    659. Wes says:

      Jason’s a goddamn liar. Phil literally contradicted him four posts before Jason posted?

      How do you even know how to breathe being so stupid, Jason?

    660. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Biden Job Approval:
      Approve 46%
      Disapprove 47%
      @Reuters @Ipsos947 Adults, 8/16

      Polls of adults are usually the most favorable for Democrats.

    661. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      I live in a very liberal neighborhood. Many of my liberal friends are livid at Biden. A lot now think Biden is demented and needs to resign, or be declared unfit to serve as president.

      Do people really believe love paens from the liberal media will save Biden politically? It’s like the Captain of the Titanic ordering the band to play on. Like the Titanic, Biden is doomed. I doubt he finishes his term.

      By the way, can anyone state one positive accomplishment by Biden as president? Members of the Taliban need not respond.

    662. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      A CNN love paen to Biden:

      “The fact that the US must rely on the Taliban for safe evacuations shows how badly the administration was taken by surprise by the militia’s advance on Kabul.”

    663. lisab says:

      By the way, can anyone state one positive accomplishment by Biden as president?
      ——————

      no mean tweets

      and he is much more moral than trump

      bitterlaw approves

    664. lisab says:

      c’mon man

      you really can’t leave a hanging curveball like that

    665. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      et tu MSNBC. The vultures are digging into the carrion:

      “@MSNBC
      NYT Pentagon correspondent Helene Cooper says there is a “level of despair and depression” among those in the Defense Department that she has not seen before, as the U.S. scrambles to evacuate thousands from Afghanistan.”

      https://on.msnbc.com/37PbBLx

    666. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      BTW, anyone have the Party ID on the Reuters poll?

      See post 665.

    667. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      675. “and he is much more moral than trump”

      I’m sorry, it’s hard for me to accept the father of Hunter Biden being moral. The fact he never intervened to try and get Hunter into drug treatment is bad enough. Worse, Biden allowed Hunter to travel the world influence peddling. There were times Hunter flew on the same plane as Biden.

      The Biden I saw at the recent news conference was clearly a callous human being. He didn’t give a d— about the human suffering and carnage he had unleashed on Afghanistan. Instead putting the blame on the Afghans, tens of thousands whom had died fighting the Taliban. Believe one reason the liberal press is turning on him is they realize how rotten he is.

    668. Wes says:

      I can name one positive accomplishment by Biden, SDC:

      He’s been so incompetent he’s ginned up the GOP for 2022.

    669. Bitterlaw says:

      I have never approved anything Biden or Pelosi did.

      I see lisab is plagiarizing the Bee again.

    670. Gordon Allen says:

      China’s news organ says Taiwan will face the same result as Afghanistan WHEN war breaks out after China SEIZES it as the US will run away. WSJ quoting Global Times,unofficial mouthpiece of the CCP.
      Just saying

    671. Sheeple,Jr. says:

      Wes
      The CT GOP picked-up a State Senate seat last night in a Special Election. The victory deprives the Democrats of a Super Majority in that Chamber.

      Any tea leaf reading for next year’s midterms?

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/17/connecticut-gop-flips-state-senate-seat-in-a-district-biden-won-by-25-points/

    672. jason says:

      Wes says:
      August 18, 2021 at 12:27 am

      Jason’s a goddamn liar. Phil literally contradicted him four posts before Jason posted?

      How do you even know how to breathe being so stupid, Jason?”

      So what did Phil say “four posts before jason posted”?

      “Biden is at 46? Just gives you an idea how badly he’s bungled Afghanistan. A Democrat has really got to F it up to get below 50 with the daily blow job he gets from the media. That takes some doing. Of course with the way he screwed up Afghanistan this week, he’s lucky he has the Pom Pom waving cheerleaders in the MSM humping his leg or he’d be at 39. Lol”

      So nowhere did he say, hmmm, let’s get wes’ lying quote:

      “Biden can’t drop below 50% because of cheerleading media.”

      wes is so anxious to suck up to the MSM he has to make up lies to defend them.

    673. Phil says:

      So you have to go to the British media to get an honest editorial on Biden. Figures. Too bad Americans don’t read the British press.

      Can’t wait until USA Today, Politico, The Hill, Axios etc come out with their editorials. I’m sure they’ll shred Biden.

      Not.

      Crickets.

      Look for the usual subjects CNN, the three networks, MSNBC, the Washington Post, NYT, and all the usual subjects to begin their spin, spin, spin to rehab Joe……but I guess if you look hard enough you can maybe find some honest foreign media. The media in this country is an arm of the Democratic Party….and it’s working like a charm for them.

    674. Country Dick Montana says:

      “Jason’s a goddamn liar. Phil literally contradicted him four posts before Jason posted?

      How do you even know how to breathe being so stupid, Jason?””

      WESCON 2

    675. Country Dick Montana says:

      “Any tea leaf reading for next year’s midterms?”

      The GOP may take the House and the Senate because Biden was even worse than expected.

      GOP will send large spending bills to whoever is President that can’t be paid for, while continuing to allow an ever larger Federal Bureaucracy to intrude into our lives.

      The Democrat President (whoever it is at the time) will still be in charge of foreign policy, the military and the entrenched Bureaucracy.

    676. jason says:

      Phil:

      MSM props up Biden so his numbers stay artificially high, he has to really screw up to get below 50%.

      wes:

      Phil says Biden can’t drop below 50% because of cheerleading media.

      Who is the goddammed liar?

      But I can understand wes’ frustration. His narrative is so full of crap he has to make up a lot of crap to defend it.

    677. jason says:

      Such competence, now that the “adults are running the show”

      “The Biden team has admitted that there are no plans to rescue or get out any of the Americans who are now outside of Kabul.

      According to multiple outlets, officials from the State and Defense departments told Senate staffers that there are no plans and they don’t know of a way to save those people now because they don’t think they can get them past the Taliban checkpoints into the city.”

    678. jason says:

      Gordon Allen says:
      August 18, 2021 at 7:10 am

      China’s news organ says Taiwan will face the same result as Afghanistan WHEN war breaks out after China SEIZES it as the US will run away. WSJ quoting Global Times,unofficial mouthpiece of the CCP.
      Just saying”

      Still waiting for your yes or no answer on whether China will invade Taiwan.

      Just saying…

    679. Bitterlaw says:

      Phil – The New York Post has columnists who rip Biden. The Washington Times also rips Biden. There may be a few more but I don’t know. What do Texas newspapers say?

    680. jason says:

      The CT GOP picked-up a State Senate seat last night in a Special Election. The victory deprives the Democrats of a Super Majority in that Chamber.”

      I guess it is all relative, the GOP now claims a great victory when it avoids a Dem super majority.

    681. Bitterlaw says:

      Despite the current fissure in the A-holes, I will give Jason points for “too stupid to breathe.”

    682. jason says:

      Phil – The New York Post has columnists who rip Biden. The Washington Times also rips Biden. There may be a few more but I don’t know. ”

      Zzzzz…that is your defense of the MSM? These are papers with conservative leanings and conservative editorial boards. And low circulation compared to the overwhelmingly liberal papers.

      I haven’t read any Texas papers, but the Houston Chronicle and Dallas Morning News are far left rags, as well as the Austin daily.

      The fake equivalency here is astounding.

    683. jason says:

      Look for the usual subjects CNN, the three networks, MSNBC, the Washington Post, NYT, and all the usual subjects to begin their spin, spin, spin to rehab Joe……but I guess if you look hard enough you can maybe find some honest foreign media. The media in this country is an arm of the Democratic Party….and it’s working like a charm for them.”

      Bitter jumped to their defense quicker than a maggot on roadkill.

      You really need to stop waving these red flags at him, Phil, it is not nice.

    684. Gordon Allen says:

      Jason. First about the yes or no question I asked about whether you think China is Mortal enemy? Then I’ll answer

    685. Tgca says:

      GWB looks really stoopid trying to insert his influence into the Afghani situation. His failed leadership on the warfront was the architect for this crisis. We always knew from day 1 that getting out of Afghanistan would be a challenge once they went to nation building status.

      I don’t think anyone will be looking to this fool for advice so I suggest he go back to painting pictures of his favorite Democrats and leave the solutioning of of this crisis to the grown-ups.

      https://www.breitbart.com/economy/2021/08/17/george-w-bush-progress-afghans/

    686. Tgca says:

      697

      I can answer that Gordy.

      YES!!!

    687. Tgca says:

      Theven Hundwid Bishes!

      Theven Hundwid I thay!

    688. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason likes to invent fights. I did not disagree with Phil’s summary of the pro-Biden MSM outlets. I pointed out that the liberal bias is so overwhelming that I could only find 2 conservative-leaning newspapers.

      Also, since Jason may indeed be too stupid to breathe, how does he explain that I am defending American MSM when I was the one who steered people to UK media outlets to get a critical view of Biden and Democrats. I can’t be defending American MSM when I post UK media stories specifically to criticize the American MSM.

    689. jason says:

      See post # 120. Clear as day.

      Now stop beating around the bush and give us the yes or no answer.

    690. jason says:

      “I pointed out that the liberal bias is so overwhelming that I could only find 2 conservative-leaning newspapers.”

      You did? Where?

      What you did is dispute Phil’s narrative on the MSM by trying to pretend 2 conservative newspapers are some kind of equivalency for the massive liberal tilt of the MSM.

    691. jason says:

      697

      I can answer that Gordy.

      YES!!!”

      China will invade Taiwan?

      Dang, I wonder if it happens before the world ends due to global warming.

    692. Phil says:

      Jason is correct. The Houston Post and Dallas Morning News are left wing rags…as far left as the Austin American Statesman. It’s that way in each large city, bitter. You should know that. Trump got one big city paper endorsement in 2000.

      One.

      The idea that the Post and Chronicle are any different from the Washington Post or NYT would be laughable. Last time I looked at a Houston Post editorial was when they slobbered all oer Beto’s gun confiscation plan. Oh yes, they Adore Beto.

    693. jason says:

      Funny, earlier in the thread Tgca said he agreed with me that China will seek a political, not military solution.

      273 jason says:
      August 16, 2021 at 10:06 am

      In my view, China will continue to saber rattle and try to isolate Taiwan diplomatically and economically. Just recently, one of the few countries that recognized Taiwan’s independence, Burkina Faso, switched to China under pressure from China. Only 15 other countries recognize ROC as the official China and do not have relations with Beijing.

      China will seek a political, not military solution with Taiwan, although using the military threat as leverage. Even a blockade is not likely considering Taiwan might view it as an act of war and attack the Chinese ships and mainland in response.

      Most likely is a Hong Kong type solution, where Taiwan would officially become part of China but with self government and different economic system. After seeing what is happening in Hong Kong, they will probably seek better guarantees”.

      Tgca says:
      August 16, 2021 at 12:17 pm

      273

      Finally!!! Jadon follows my lead.

      Good boy.

      *pats head*

    694. jason says:

      “Jason is correct. The Houston Post and Dallas Morning News are left wing rags…as far left as the Austin American Statesman. It’s that way in each large city, bitter. You should know that. Trump got one big city paper endorsement in 2000.

      One.

      The idea that the Post and Chronicle are any different from the Washington Post or NYT would be laughable.”

      Bitter’s fake equivalencies are always laughable.

    695. Phil says:

      Stop it, bitter. The MSM is nothing but a COMPLETE arm of the DNC. Quit trying to pretend it isn’t. That ship has sailed. Not een Wes dispute that. My disagreement with him concerns the influence the MSM has on public opinion. He poo poos their influence somewhat. I don’t. They put Biden in the WH. Game, set, match.

    696. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason claims I defend the American MSM. I specifically post links to UK MSM to attack American MSM for not being critical of Democrats. Jason can’t get around that.

    697. jason says:

      Too late now.

      “But today, Rasmussen Reports is issuing the capper, telling Secrets that in an election do-over, Biden would lose to former President Donald Trump.

      By a six-point margin, 43%-37%, likely voters would pick Trump over Biden “if the next presidential election were held today.”

      The details of the survey, which samples more Democrats than Republicans, showed that Trump would win more women and blacks than he did in 2020 when he lost to Biden, 46.8%-51.3%.”

      But Biden can seek solace in the fact the Biden Troll and Amoral Scumbag still think he is “morally superior to Trump”.

    698. jason says:

      Stop it, bitter.”

      Good advice.

    699. jason says:

      Of course, my advice to Phil was good too:

      “You really need to stop waving these red flags at him, Phil, it is not nice.”

    700. jason says:

      Jason claims I defend the American MSM”

      You play down their influence and use red herrings and fake equivalencies to minimize their role.

      I don’t think you deny their far left ideological bent, but by pretending they are not influencing public opinion and consequently elections I think “defending” them is accurate.

    701. Gordon Allen says:

      OK, not that we both agree China is a Mortal enemy (Whew sigh of relief) my answer.
      Even Hitler, a risk taker par excellence ,preferred bloodless acquisitions to “invasions”. Austria, Czechoslovakia, and Memel ,frequently called invasions, found the German Army being “invited in”-sometimes enthusiastically- and not a single shot being fired.Hitler tried for 5 years to enlist/bribe Poland as an Ally against the USSR.
      No doubt China would prefer some variation/combination of those endeavors through a variety of means.
      But failing visible progress to that end by 2024 with a Biden/Harris in the WH, and worse the possibility of a hardliner succeeding them(say a DeSantis), he(Xi)will invade/militarily assault Taiwan. He is not going to let the chance of a lifetime(his) go by without taking advantage of it.
      XI strikes me having a touch of meglomania about him, and he has established a total control of the Party and State similar to Stalin; there is no longer a “collective leadership” in China.
      In addition his frenetic armament drive, not least in nuclear, space, and cyber capabilities, will have likewise by then maxed out their relative position vis a vis the US which is behind the modernization curve as compared to them.And a 3.5 Trillion spending plan will slow down that US modernization plan to a snails pace as money won’t be available.
      So Yes, I would short Taiwan stock holdings.

    702. Robbie says:

      So now Fauci is demanding Americans get a third shot even though there are no randomized controlled trials that demonstrate an actual benefit over two shots. Meanwhile, much of the rest of the world hasn’t even had one shot yet.

      This is yet more evidence Fauci wants a permanent crisis that makes him preeminent in American life. And if you like the idea of a third shot, wait until Pandemic Overlord Fauci calls for a fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh shot.

      Give him another presidential medal of freedom, right Jason fraud.

    703. Tgca says:

      706

      Jadon. You are my ally. We agree on most things except for your poor eating and nutrition habits.

      I was specifically referring to China as not being our friend and should be viewed with contempt and treated as not a friend of the US but this does not mean we go to war with them or purposely antagonize them. If I misunderstood Gordy’s inquiry then I apologize.

      I also agree China would probably not seek to invade Taiwan in the near future. China often plays the long game and they know, in today’s path, Taiwan will someday be back in their control.

      I think we still agree on this.

    704. Tgca says:

      701

      I don’t think people should be starting or inventing fights here because then there is no real exchange of ideas and instead of intelligent debate, it’s all name-calling and I don’t want any part of that.

      Bitter, being a woke metrosexual Menendez-loving type of Republican has much insight to offer us and would make a great Pelosi Republican if elected to Congress and so I’d rather debate and exchange ideas with him here, not on Snapchat, rather than pick fights with him…especially since he’s working on getting me a date with his Cusack look-alike friend.

    705. Phil says:

      Jason and I disagree on Fauci…..but one thing we completely agree on is that we don’t give a rat’s ass what Robbie thinks……about anything.

    706. Gordon Allen says:

      I’m not advocating a war with China,especially now with their current nuclear capability. Nobody including Reagan advocated war w the USSR for the same reason.
      But the Taiwan Relations Act has been interpreted since its passage as requiring a military defense against a Chines assault.
      If we don’t all Asia will either acquiesce to Chinese dominance or develop their own nuclear deterrent. Either is really bad.
      In the past the ambiguity has served as a deterrent to China.
      I fear China has no ambiguity with Biden in the WH.
      We are in grave trouble at home and abroad and only blindness obscures that for some.
      But no mean tweets to worry about

    707. Phil says:

      So far Biden has been lucky. No American deaths or hostages taken in the “withdrawal”. Will his luck run out? Stay tuned.

      The chances that all Americans get out safely when 5 to10 thousand are scattered throughout the Taliban controlled country without some going missing are not good. The Administration certainly won’t report on them but those not turning up have family in the states. Think those family members are going to be quiet about it?

    708. Tgca says:

      720

      It is yet to be seen if the Taleeban is going to let Americans and others pass safely to the evacuation points over the next few weeks, as they become emboldened with their success.

      It is beyond stoopid that folks were told to stay in place at their homes as advances were being made by the Taliban the last couple of weeks.

      Will we end up having the equivalents of MIAs now? I hope not but it might be the result of this failed evacuation plan.

      Blinken, Austin, and Milley should resign as there is no confidence in them, especially Milley who was worried about transgender and military wokeness instead of focusing on protecting our assets in Afghanistan.

    709. Phil says:

      Blinker, Austin, and Milley should resign.

      It would be the honorable thing to do.

      …..sadly, these are not honorable people.

    710. Tgca says:

      Then they should be sent over to Afghanistan without burqas and let the Taleeban deal with them.

    711. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Today’s polling is disastrous for Biden:

      Biden approval:

      Rasmussen poll
      46% Approve
      54% Disapprove

      YouGov 1,250 Adults
      47% Approve
      47% Disapprove

      You Gov, 1,500 Adults
      44% Approve
      44% Disapprove

      Presidential Vote

      St Pets Polls
      48% Biden
      47% Trump Sr

      Rasmussen poll
      37% Biden
      43% Trump Sr

    712. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      724. St Pete poll.

    713. lisab says:

      Still waiting for your yes or no answer on whether China will invade Taiwan.
      ————

      they have already entered western afghanistan,

      just with armed patrols

    714. Dylan says:

      This whole situation is Atlas Shrugged incarnate. For those who have read the book by Ayn Rand, there is a point where the powers that be realize they cannot lead and that they are incompetent and they scream out to John Galt “LEAD US”

      alas that will never happen here. We are Thelma and Louise and Biden is hitting the accelerator as we drive over the edge of the Grand Canyon while the hub caps fly off.

    715. jason says:

      714. That pile of drivel was a yes or no answer?

      LOL

    716. GF says:

      Phil says:
      August 17, 2021 at 11:22 pm
      I’d say the MSM is worth 7 points to any Democrat….minimum.
      ***************************************************

      Back in 2004, Bob Shrum noted that the MSM bias towards the Dems was worth a whopping fifteen points in polling, though with various demographic changes since then, I can buy seven points now.

    717. jason says:

      Jason and I disagree on Fauci…..but one thing we completely agree on is that we don’t give a rat’s ass what Robbie thinks……about anything.”

      I don’t really think we disagree that much on Fauci.

      But it is hilarious with all the things going on Amoral Scumbag ignores Biden’s disastrous presidency and agenda to come here to promote whatever the MSM is quoting about Fauci.

    718. NYCmike says:

      “So Yes, I would short Taiwan stock holdings.”

      -This last sentence gave complete meaning to what Gordon wrote…….unless you need to improve your reading comprehension skills……

    719. NYCmike says:

      Has “CG” appeared at all, to proclaim Biden’s genius and moral upstanding qualities as displayed this past week?

      Or is he too busy bidding on Hunter Biden paintings?

    720. NYCmike says:

      “GWB looks really stoopid trying to insert his influence into the Afghani situation. His failed leadership on the warfront was the architect for this crisis. We always knew from day 1 that getting out of Afghanistan would be a challenge once they went to nation building status.”

      -I agree that Dubya should stay painting, and just keep his trap shut. N O B O D Y wants to hear from him, Cheney, Obama, any of them. (Personally, I would like to hear from Mattis, who has remained quiet, after supporting this fool Biden!)

      I do disagree that Afghanistan is Bush’s fault. I recall that we were largely out of there, in favor of Iraq, under Bush/Cheney. It was Obama/Biden/media who left Iraq, which gave us ISIS, and surged into this current h*llhole with a huge number of troops, and the resulting longest war came from it. Biden is the most corrupt, stupidest politician I have ever witnessed in my lifetime.

    721. NYCmike says:

      https://thefederalist.com/2021/08/18/exclusive-fbi-knew-of-hunter-bidens-missing-laptop-as-early-as-december-2019/

      -Between intelligence failures in Afghanistan, and these laptops, explain to me again how we would be worse off if they didn’t exist??

      What the F*CK is their purpose?

      Scrap the whole leadership structure of all of these agencies, and start re-building them from the ground up, with clear missions.

    722. jason says:

      I can buy seven points now.”

      Impossible. According to our resident MSM experts, the MSM is irrelevant.

    723. jason says:

      “So Yes, I would short Taiwan stock holdings.”

      -This last sentence gave complete meaning to what Gordon wrote…….unless you need to improve your reading comprehension skills……”

      I didn’t ask for context or “meaning”

      I asked him several times for a simple yes or no answer on whether China will conduct a military invasion of Taiwan.

      Not that difficult to answer, but all I get his a huge load of drivel and garbage to evade the question.

      “Short Taiwan holdings”.. that is not a yes or no answer.

      GFY.

    724. jason says:

      There could be a lot of reasons to short Taiwan holdings besides an invasion.

      So my reading comprehension is fine.

    725. jason says:

      Scrap the whole leadership structure of all of these agencies,”

      The goal posts are moving in the right direction.

      Before we were talking of eliminating the FBI, which is asinine and reflects a profound ignorance of the role of the FBI, and is akin to the “defund the police” idiocy.

      There is no question the leadership, not only of the FBI but other agencies, has become way too politicized, but the solution is replace this leadership, not get rid of an agency that has a huge responsibility and role in protecting America against all types of criminality and threats.

    726. Dylan says:

      738–assuming there was even the will to replace the heads of these woke agencies, there is no way there is enough neutral personnel to staff up and fix these agencies, ergo we are screwed!

    727. jason says:

      I also agree China would probably not seek to invade Taiwan in the near future. China often plays the long game and they know, in today’s path, Taiwan will someday be back in their control.

      I think we still agree on this.”

      Ok, fair enough, seems reasonable to me, but you said you agreed with Gordon.

      Of course I can understand that agreeing with Gordon covers a lot of ground, considering the many posts he has written that add up to a big pile of vacuous drive.

    728. jason says:

      738–assuming there was even the will to replace the heads of these woke agencies, there is no way there is enough neutral personnel to staff up and fix these agencies, ergo we are screwed!”

      Ah yes, but then we go to the wider reality of why we are screwed.

      Who are these agencies going to recruit that are not “graduates” of our woke society and culture and products of a far left educational indoctrination system.

      That is why the just vote for GOP, the next election will fix everything is such a crock.

    729. jason says:

      Nancy Pelosi was asked about the tens of billions of dollars in equipment left behind for the Taliban.

      She says that “This is what happens when you withdraw.”

      Normal.

    730. NYCmike says:

      “I asked him several times for a simple yes or no answer on whether China will conduct a military invasion of Taiwan.

      Not that difficult to answer, but all I get his a huge load of drivel and garbage to evade the question.”

      -The person who thinks there is a “simple” answer to that question shows that the person is a simple-ton.

    731. NYCmike says:

      “That is why the just vote for GOP, the next election will fix everything is such a crock.”

      -Says the guy who thinks that Susan Murkowski is preferable to a Joe Miller in the Senate.

    732. NYCmike says:

      Idiotic East Germany statement to be mentioned in 3……2……1……

    733. Country Dick Montana says:

      The problem with the FBI and any other currently politicized agency is not the 2% to 5% that are bad, it’s the portion of the others who are both good and also know where the bodies are hidden who don’t speak up. I have a daughter in LEO and it is the same problem in nearly every police unit.

    734. NYCmike says:

      #746 – Not to bring fiction into it, but that is the main reason why the Tom Clancy books were so far-fetched……Jack Ryan was able to be independent because he had made a fortune on Wall Street before going to work at the CIA. That simply doesn’t really happen in the real world. Each individual has too much to lose by speaking up……paradoxically, if this country goes the way some think it may, the chance to do the right thing and speak up may be the better choice in the future.

    735. NYCmike says:

      Still waiting for “CG” to check in to let us know how great Biden is doing compared to the mean tweeter…….

    736. NYCmike says:

      https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/ari-j-kaufman/2021/08/18/leftists-fume-after-chuck-todd-criticizesjoe-biden-n1470472

      -When your previous assumptions are wrong, that usually leads to bad decision making in the future.

      ““I do think the biggest political fallout is competency,” the Meet the Press host explained. “Joe Biden’s greatest strength against Donald Trump in the campaign was the idea that he has been around the block, he knows what he’s doing, we’re facing this crisis with COVID, we need some basic competency back in government, no more chaos. He’s lost the competency high-marks that he was getting at one time, and that’s tough to get back.””

    737. Phil says:

      Biden still has a chance to come out of this actually smelling like a rose.

      If we can pull off the airlift evacuation without any casualties among American non-combatants the MSM will hail this as brilliant execution under almost impossible conditions. They will paint him as a hero.

      Story after story in the MSM on “how his administration pulled this off”

      Of course, the media will need to really push the spin 24/7.

      Anyone doubt they will try like hell?

      I didn’t think so.

      Well, Biden has made it through 24 hours with no casualties. Will his luck continue to hold?

      Stay tuned.

    738. Tgca says:

      724. SDC

      That Rasmussen poll is BS!

      There is no way that Biden is under water on the Afghan issue.

      I know it’s only anecdotal but I’ve seen a number of celebrity tweets saying Biden is only trying to salvage the mess Trump created so there’s no way those poll numbers reflect the US sentiment because as goes Hollywood goes the US…riiiiiiiiight?

    739. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Democrats are opening up on Biden:

      “Rep. Seth Moulton, a Massachusetts Democrat and a member of the Armed Services Committee, released a statement on Sunday ripping the administration over its evacuation efforts in Afghanistan.

      “To say that today is anything short of a disaster would be dishonest,” said Moulton, a retired Marine Corps officer who served four tours of duty in Iraq. “Worse, it was avoidable. The time to debate whether we stay in Afghanistan has passed, but there is still time to debate how we manage our retreat. For months, I have been calling on the Administration to evacuate our allies immediately — not to wait for paperwork, for shaky agreements with third countries, or for time to make it look more ‘orderly.'””

    740. NYCmike says:

      Seth Moulton – always surprised when a Marine is a Democrat.

    741. Phil says:

      Jennifer Rubin reminds us that rhe airport in Kabal is secure and open with 5,000 American troops providing the security. A thousand non combatants a day are being evacuated and that number will be stepped up.

      In other words, it’s not so bad. Rubin is the conservative on the Washington Post staff so she has credibility. Not a left wing hack. If she says things are under control you can believe her.

    742. jason says:

      ROFL

    743. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      754. Is that a joke? There are countless reports of people trying to flee being stopped and beaten at Taliban checkpoints. You know this is getting worse day by day. Woman are being kicked out of schools and veiled; soon they will start executing people.

      Meanwhile, Biden just made an inane speech, and then fleed without taking questions. It was like a Chatty Cathy doll, pull the string and the babbling begins.

    744. jason says:

      -The person who thinks there is a “simple” answer to that question shows that the person is a simple-ton.”

      Hello?

      It is a simple question:

      “Do you think China will conduct a military invasion of Taiwan”.

      Yes or no?

      What is complicated about it?

      My answer is No.

    745. jason says:

      754. Is that a joke?”

      Of course.

      Nobody despises Jen Rubin more than Phil.

      But I will claim a tie.

    746. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      “Most voters would not vote to reelect President Joe Biden, and a significant number who voted for him in 2020 now regret their choice.

      A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that, if the next presidential election were held today, 37% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for Biden. Forty-three percent (43%) would vote for former President Donald Trump, and 14% say they would vote for some other candidate.”

    747. lisab says:

      cnn and abc are back on the reservation

      they just played an interview where biden said there were

      NO MISTAKES

      in the evacuation

      the current situation was ALAWAYS PRICED into their calculations

    748. lisab says:

      It is a simple question:

      “Do you think China will conduct a military invasion of Taiwan”.

      Yes or no?

      What is complicated about it?

      My answer is No.
      —————————–

      you should pull a bitterlaw and not give a straight answer

    749. jason says:

      NYCmike says:
      August 18, 2021 at 4:38 pm

      Seth Moulton – always surprised when a Marine is a Democrat”

      I am not. I knew many Dems in the military.

      But they weren’t the far left kook moonbats of today.

      What surprises me is that they STAY in today’s Dem party.

    750. Gordon Allen says:

      Jason. Give me an example or two of vacuous drivel. My impression is that your idea of that is any one with a abroader context and more knowledge than simple declaratory statements that you fall back on,because it appears you really are as ignorant as Bitterlaw says you are.
      My bad on that as I don’t agree with bitterlaw much,but he’s right it seems on you
      I was quite clear my views on what China will likely do. Your default position seems knee jerk denial of anything that reflects anything other than benign intentions on Chinas part.
      I’m sad,because I didn’t think you were a
      self centered idiot. You’ve proved me wrong. I admit errors when I make them.

    751. Tgca says:

      Crazy! New mask mandate in Afghanistan during evacuation.

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9FlBXnVEAEyfFs?format=jpg&name=900×900

    752. Tgca says:

      The LGBTQIA2S+ should have a seat at the table in Afghanistan as well to ensure proper representation.

      https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9Ez5vWWQA4MhFJ?format=jpg&name=4096×4096

    753. jason says:

      The Dems I knew in the military were mostly Southerners. Often their families had strong ties to Dem politics in their home towns. I really understand why they would stay in today’s Dem party.

    754. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @Rasmussen_Poll
      59% of voters believe the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan makes the threat of terrorism against the United States worse.

    755. Tgca says:

      763

      Those are harsh words Gordy!

      I don’t agree that Jadon is a self-centered idiot.

      I’ve never thought Jadon to be self-centered if that helps clarify the issue here.

    756. Tgca says:

      Don’t fret? There’s still hope folks. 13 days left in August so Trump can still be reinstated as POTUS.

    757. jason says:

      Jason. Give me an example or two of vacuous drivel. My impression is that your idea of that is any one with a abroader context and more knowledge than simple declaratory statements that you fall back on,because it appears you really are as ignorant as Bitterlaw says you are.
      My bad on that as I don’t agree with bitterlaw much,but he’s right it seems on you
      I was quite clear my views on what China will likely do. Your default position seems knee jerk denial of anything that reflects anything other than benign intentions on Chinas part.
      I’m sad,because I didn’t think you were a
      self centered idiot. You’ve proved me wrong. I admit errors when I make them.”

      Zzzzz… another load of garbage and drivel to avoid a simple question.

      You don’t have any “depth or knowledge”. You are a shallow ignoramus who when presented with actual facts scurries away like a scared rabbit.

      Why don’t you man up and give a yes or no answer.

      What are you afraid of?

      Yes or no? No drivel, garbage and vacuous BS.

      Will China conduct a military invasion of Taiwan?

    758. jason says:

      I’ve never thought Jadon to be self-centered if that helps clarify the issue here.”

      Thanks man.

    759. jason says:

      ignorant as Bitterlaw says you are”

      Dang. Bitter said I was ignorant?

      That hurts.

    760. jason says:

      @Rasmussen_Poll
      59% of voters believe the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan makes the threat of terrorism against the United States worse.”

      Translation: at least 41% of Americans are certified morons.

    761. jason says:

      “I’m sad,because I didn’t think you were a
      self centered idiot. You’ve proved me wrong. I admit errors when I make them.”

      That’s ok. I always thought you were one dumbass mo’fer.

      Nothing you have ever said has proved me wrong.

    762. jason says:

      “Customs and Border Protection reports that Border Patrol apprehended 199,777 persons at the US southwest border in July. This represents an increase of 21,000 over June and was 23,000 higher than our dire forecast of one month ago. Further, July apprehensions were nearly twice the level of the next highest July in the last twenty years, that is, July 2000 of the Clinton administration, when 114,000 migrants were arrested.”

      WE ARE WINNING!

      Where is NYC, has his brilliant plan for a 50% reduction in LEGAL immigration come up for a vote yet!

    763. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Trafalgar Group Poll

      What best describes how you feel about how President Biden is handling U.S. military operation in Afghanistan?
      Strongly Disapprove 59%
      Disapprove 9.8%
      Approve 12.4%
      Strongly Approve 10.7%
      No Opinion 7.5%

    764. NYCmike says:

      #775 – just write a new law, and all will be fine.

      So says the Yes or No Guy.

    765. jason says:

      Are current immigration laws being enforced yet?

      According to NYC, once that happens, the immigration problem will be solved.

      I know, I know, they haven’t been enforced in decades, but are you sure it won’t happen tomorrow?

      I am pretty sure it will happen as much as I am sure I will win the Powerball.

    766. jason says:

      Strongly Approve 10.7%”

      There are a lot of Biden Trolls and Amoral Scumbags in America.

    767. NYCmike says:

      jason,

      Did China invade Hong Kong?

    768. jason says:

      So says the Yes or No Guy.”

      Let’s be honest.

      You think that really is a difficult yes or no answer? You think it is an unfair question?

      Do you think China will conduct a military invasion of Taiwan?

      Do you have trouble saying yes or no?

      I mean, there is no money involved here, just an opinion.

    769. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      This link is from Afghanistan, and shows a sickening video. The Taliban executing a woman. Biden has blood on his hands.

      https://twitter.com/SunnyJa12592852

    770. jason says:

      Did China invade Hong Kong?

      No.

      Hong Kong was given back to China by treaty. Officially the transfer of sovereignty to China was made on 1 July 1997.

      I think China has violated some of the conditions of the treaty, but the fact is the British ceded sovereignty.

    771. Tgca says:

      So let me get this straight.

      Americans and allies were told before the Taleeban took over Kabul to stay put in their homes and not rush to the airport to be evacuated.

      Now today, SOD Austin and General Milley agree they DON’T have the capability to evacuate those not already at the airport.

      “…Pentagon leaders said at a briefing on Wednesday that the United States military does not have the capability to help the thousands of Americans stranded outside the Kabul airport, which is now surrounded by Taliban checkpoints.”

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/18/defense-secretary-lloyd-austin-general-milley-u-s-military-cant-help-those-outside-kabul-airport/

    772. jason says:

      I made the mistake of watching that video earlier.

      Don’t watch it, it will haunt you.

    773. jason says:

      NYCmike says:
      August 18, 2021 at 5:32 pm

      #775 – just write a new law, and all will be fine.”

      You have been saying for years here that if we did nothing all would be fine.

      I have been saying for years that the Dems were one election or one SCOTUS justice away from implementing open borders.

      Who was right?

    774. NYCmike says:

      “You have been saying for years here that if we did nothing all would be fine.”

      -That is incorrect, and you know it.

      I have said that if current laws were enfocred, all would be fine.

      New laws won’t matter if the authorities refuse to enforce them.

      Current law is fine, as written.

      The problem is the enforcement of those laws.

      Of course, you know this already, but would rather play games. Typical Murkowski/Romney/Cheney-type Republican.

    775. jason says:

      Silverhack has Biden at 49.4-45.2.

      But to do that Ras is adjusted from 46-54 to 49-48.

      You can’t make this sh-t up.

    776. lisab says:

      This link is from Afghanistan, and shows a sickening video. The Taliban executing a woman.
      ——————

      but remember … trump was mean

    777. NYCmike says:

      “but remember … trump was mean”

      -Still waiting for “CG”……….

    778. jason says:

      I have said that if current laws were enfocred, all would be fine.”

      Pls let us know when you see that happening.

      Meanwhile, rejoice:

      WE ARE WINNING!

      Doing nothing was a real winner!

    779. lisab says:

      I have been saying for years that the Dems were one election or one SCOTUS justice away from implementing open borders.
      ———————-

      to be fair, the borders were open from 1964 to 2016

      only trump has made any effort to stop illegals

    780. dylan says:

      I feel like this is all a bad movie and we are going to get someone like The Rock or Gerard Butler to bust in and save us from Biden/Harris/Milley/Blinken. I’d even settle for Schwarzenegger.

    781. NYCmike says:

      “Pls let us know when you see that happening.”

      -Please let me know when Democrats will enforce the new, more betterer laws!

    782. NYCmike says:

      “Doing nothing was a real winner!”

      -Exactly, it wasn’t. And one of the many reasons why Republicans lost elections.

    783. dylan says:

      Biden definitely has that woman’s blood on his hands. He thinks the Afghan army didn’t want to fight to save her from those extrajudicial thugs. What is gonna stop that from happening to 1000’s of americans there. He won’t lift a finger. This is sickening.

    784. NYCmike says:

      “I’d even settle for Schwarzenegger.”

      -You know Arnold is out. Too much CO2 would be released trying to rescue the people, and global warming is the greater threat, along with Covid, don’t you know.

    785. NYCmike says:

      Yo

    786. NYCmike says:

      DCCC

    787. Tgca says:

      794

      Schwarzenegger would burst into the crowd with his Hummer to evacuate Biden and team and shoot up the vax and other protestors screaming Screw Your Freedoms!

    788. Gordon Allen says:

      Jason you’re true to form. Asked to give some examples,you duck,because you’re ignorant and don’t have any. But like Democrats your only answer is personal attacks.
      You mentioned money. Peculiar,because I never did. You doth protest to much??
      I care less about your stupid diatribes,and I fault myself( again) for coming back to a site filled with personL diatribe,rather than political discussions,where reasonable people can disagree.
      A mistake I won’t make again. HHR is not long for this world. It used to be very interesting.

    789. NYCmike says:

      Gordon,

      Don’t get so defeated.

      Some here value your commentary.

    790. Phil says:

      Did I just hear that Biden is heading back to Delaware tonight??

      WTF

      What’s up with this guy?

    791. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      785. Don’t watch it, it will haunt you.

      Let’s not forget the U.S. embassy warning:

      The U.S. embassy in Afghanistan on Wednesday said it “cannot guarantee safe passage” to the Kabul airport, a reversal from government officials’ assurances Tuesday that they had secured a commitment from the Taliban to not interfere with evacuation efforts.

      We are about to witness the Afghan killing field.

    792. Wes says:

      Biden is the result of a vote based strictly on emotion. He started off badly as President and only became worse over time.

      He governs as if Democrats in Congress have LBJ-era majorities rather than trying to establish consensus and improve the lot of the country. He mindlessly adopts far-left environmental ideals at the expense of average Americans, costing jobs here especially in the energy industry, and then begs OPEC to increase production only to have them laugh at him.

      Under Biden, inflation has soared while Covid has spiked even as the border spirals into crisis. Crime runs rampant, and the US has become a joke internationally.

      Welcome to Joe Biden’s America.

      Unfortunately this was something anyone could see coming as Biden was an elderly empty suit with diminished cognitive faculties whom Democrats rallied around simply because he gave them their best shot at unseating Trump.

      Well, mission accomplished. Now we all have to live with the results of having this idiot in office.

    793. Phil says:

      Naw. Jennifer Rubin says we’re good.

    794. Wes says:

      Jennifer Rubin can GFH, Phil. She has no credibility.

    795. Phil says:

      Now Now, Wes. She’s the Washington Post’s “conservative”

      She has credibility, baby!

    796. Wes says:

      She has about as much credibility on anything regarding Biden as Ted Kennedy had as an advocate of women’s rights.

    797. Wes says:

      Just think, Phil. If some moronic Deadender hadn’t threatened a divisive primary against Pete DuPont in 1972, then Caleb Boggs would have retired from the Senate, and DuPont would have beaten Biden, thus keeping us from having to deal with this national disaster of a presidency we’re living under.

    798. Phil says:

      Actually, I believe Rubin and Nicole Wallace are identical. Former “conservatives” who were never really conservatives to begin with – who have now become out and out blatant left wing hacks.

      I have more respect for Rachael Maddow than I do for those two. Low bar I know. At least she’s never tried to claim to be anything she wasn’t.

    799. Just Fill Out The Census says:

      I support President Biden. Like it would have been any better under Trump the Dump.

      Just imagine Melania having to lay under that sack of dump.

    800. Phil says:

      Yeah. It wouldn’t have been any better under Trump.

      Pass me that joint, bro.

    801. Wes says:

      Right, JFOTC. Trump was cutting off domestic energy production. Oh, wait. That was Biden.

      Trump presided over a host of people streaming over the border, many infected with Covid. No. That was Biden again.

      Inflation was soaring because of gross mismanagement of the country’s finances under Trump. No. That was again Biden.

      Trump had a disorganized plan for withdrawal from Afghanistan. No. Biden did that.

      We’re batting 1000 on the things Biden has done wrong. None of the current crisis is Trump to blame for at all.

    802. Phil says:

      No point pointing out obvious facts to the troll, Wes.

      Waste of your time.

    803. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      @Rasmussen_polls
      “One additional item? Democrats will not like our national voters based poll results on VP Harris tomorrow. And if they turn to other pollsters with similar party weightings and a history for accuracy (there are a handful), they will not like those numbers either.”

    804. Phil says:

      BTW, just heard Biden say in an interview this evacuation could not have been handled any better.

      Ok, Joe.

    805. Phil says:

      817

      Well, so much for the 25th Amendment. Weekend at Bernie’s to continue for another three years.

    806. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      806. Well said Wes.

      This is like a rerun of the Jimmy Carter presidency, complete with the possibility of American prisoners being held in Kabul.

      As I have said before, I cannot think of one positive thing that Biden has done as president.

    807. Just Fill Out The Census says:

      Rasmussen who? lol

    808. lisab says:

      As I have said before, I cannot think of one positive thing that Biden has done as president
      ——————————–

      he has supported the ice cream industry?

    809. Tgca says:

      808

      Jennifer Rubin is a skank!

      My professional opinion of her.

    810. Tgca says:

      812

      So Phil prefers manly lefty lesbians over skanky never-Trump conservatives?

      This world is going crazy!

    811. Bitterlaw says:

      I do not recall saying that Jason is ignorant. I have at times pointed out when he is stupid and a moron. I have also noted that he repeatedly lies about what I say to create a false narrative about me. I also find his contempt for thought and analysis to be both simplistic and frightening. His attempt to be the top A-hole fills him with resentment. But he is not ignorant.

    812. lisab says:

      supposedly, taliban are going door to door and taking girls as young as 12 for marriage to taliban

    813. Wes says:

      Are any Taliban named Epstein, Lisa?

    814. Tgca says:

      826

      No worries LisaB

      As those in Hollywood, like Barbra Streisand would just say ”the Taleeban’s sexual needs are their sexual needs” and that these young girls ”they got married and they had little Taleeban children, so it didn’t kill them.”

      https://www.okayplayer.com/music/his-sexual-needs-were-his-sexual-needs-barbra-streisand-catches-heat-for-sympathizing-with-michael-jackson.html

    815. jason says:

      “Typical Murkowski/Romney/Cheney-type Republican.”

      I appreciate the points, but I haven’t been a Republican since 2016.

      And nobody has been more critical of Romney here than I have.

    816. jason says:

      I do not recall saying that Jason is ignorant. I have at times pointed out when he is stupid and a moron.”

      Thanks man.

      There is nothing more gratifying than accolades from a fellow A-hole.

    817. jason says:

      Noncensus is back.

      Could you pls make some predictions?

      We need a good laugh.

    818. Bitterlaw says:

      Gordon will be back. He probably had to yell at some kids to get off his lawn…which is strange since he lives in a gated retirement community. Where did they come from?

    819. jason says:

      BTW, just heard Biden say in an interview this evacuation could not have been handled any better.”

      Here is how it could have been better, even with a total pullout which I opposed.

      Keep Bagram Air Base open, it is only 40 km from Kabul, was equipped to handle any type of aircraft and was already secured, and had a military environment contrary to Kabul Airport. Continue to provide air support for the Afghan Army so that the Taliban did not have an easy avenue. Then start and finish the evacuation of all Americans and eligible Afghans from Bagram.

      Only relinquish Bagram and air support AFTER the evacuation was complete.

      Of course, contrary to most, I would have kept a residual force of 10k and air support indefinitely rather than surrendering the country. Just my view.

      We have had troops in Japan, Korea, Germany etc for decades, so keeping another 10k in Afghanistan for another 20 years would not be an issue for me.

    820. New York City says:

      “If some moronic Deadender hadn’t threatened a divisive primary against Pete DuPont in 1972,”

      wes must be against the primary system.

    821. jason says:

      Hey Gordon don’t let the door hit you when you leave.

      And maybe when or if you come back, you can give me a yes or no answer on a simple question.

    822. jason says:

      “I have also noted that he repeatedly lies about what I say to create a false narrative about me.”

      Translation: jason quotes me verbatim when he knows I didn’t mean what I said, the bastard.

    823. jason says:

      Just Fill Out The Census says:
      August 18, 2021 at 6:49 pm

      I support President Biden. Like it would have been any better under Trump the Dump.”

      Huh, not quite.

      “The Biden State Department moved in June to cancel a program overseeing the protection and evacuation of American citizens stationed overseas in the case of an emergency, just as the Taliban was taking over Afghanistan, according to an internal State Department memo obtained by the Washington Free Beacon and multiple sources familiar with the matter.

      The Biden State Department moved to dissolve the Trump-era crisis response program, according to an internal State Department memo and sources familiar with the matter. That memo, which was marked sensitive but unclassified and was signed by Deputy Secretary Brian McKeon, approved the “discontinuation of the establishment, and termination of, the Contingency and Crisis Response Bureau (CCR),” a new State Department entity created during the Trump administration to coordinate emergency response services overseas”:

    824. Bitterlaw says:

      Maybe Jason is ignorant but no point in trying to get Gordon back to tell him. I made the mistake of asking Tgca to return.

    825. Phil says:

      833

      Bingo.

    826. Tgca says:

      Is it me or do

      AOC
      Rashida Taleeban
      Ilhan Omar

      seem very quiet on Afghanistan and the Taleeban?

    827. Wes says:

      I’m currently watching Curse of the Werewolf (1961) directed by Terence Fisher.

      I’m all for character development in my movies, but can I get some story to go along with it?

      This is a movie about a werewolf. I don’t want a series of debates as if I’m back in forensics class

    828. Tgca says:

      “U.S. General Mark Milley: No Intelligence Suggested Collapse Within 11 Days”

      I agree with General Milley on this.

      Clearly no one on Biden’s team was intelligent enough to suggest the chaos would ensue with their evac plan.

      Not Milley!
      Not Austin!
      Not Blinken!
      Not Biden!
      Not Kamala!

      https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/08/18/u-s-general-mark-milley-no-intelligence-suggested-collapse-within-11-days/

    829. Wes says:

      I must admit I’m not sad to see Gordon go. He was a crotchety old man trying to relive his glory days of 50 years ago and acting as if he owned the blog. He never impressed me, and I honestly can’t say I’m upset at his long overdue departure.

    830. jason says:

      HHR is not the place for you if you have thin skin or lack courage in your convictions.

      Gordon wants everyone to accept his version of history and his version of the future. If challenged he gets a hissy fit.

      I don’t really want anyone to leave except trolls, but if you can’t give a simple yes or no answer to whether you think China will or will not invade Taiwan then you are going to need a lot of hissy fits.

    831. jason says:

      “U.S. General Mark Milley: No Intelligence Suggested Collapse Within 11 Days”

      The buck stops with Intelligence!

    832. jason says:

      I do not recall saying that Jason is ignorant”

      Maybe Jason is ignorant”

      Bitter has known me for what, 15 years?

      I guess I have to accept this.

      He has had time to look at it from all sides and arrive at this thoughtful conclusion.

    833. jason says:

      HHR is not long for this world.”

      This is sad.

      I wonder which Gordon thinks will be the first to go, Taiwan or HHR.

      I would invite him back to tell us, but he would take about 200 posts and then say yes one of them will go first.

    834. SanDiegoCitizen says:

      Oh no!!! The public is turning on the liberal media.

      “A new national telephone and online survey by Rasmussen Reports finds that 58% of Likely U.S. Voters at least somewhat agree that the media are “truly the enemy of the people,” including 34% who Strongly Agree. Thirty-six percent (36%) don’t agree, including 23% who Strongly Disagree.”

    835. NYCmike says:

      https://prestonbyrne.com/2021/08/15/did-america-just-lose-afghanistan-because-of-whatsapp/

      -The young jihadis who figured this out were probably educated in American universities, or in Europe.

      What do they say about selling the rope to your enemy for them to hang you with it??

    836. Bitterlaw says:

      Jason has known me for at least 15 years but his posts over the past year or so show he does not really know me at all or just feels a need to ignore 15 years of conservative posts. The comment that maybe he is ignorant was meant as a joke because of his continued woke bs but he did not get it.

    837. Bitterlaw says:

      He actually ignores more than 17 years of conservative posts going back to my first post ay HHR but I don’t expect him to have gone that deep into the Annals.

    838. Bitterlaw says:

      At HHR

    839. jason says:

      The comment that maybe he is ignorant was meant as a joke because of his continued woke bs but he did not get it.”

      You could see I was really offended:

      “I guess I have to accept this.

      He has had time to look at it from all sides and arrive at this thoughtful conclusion.”

      Now its time to go to the new thread